plus flash flash. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. Sunday, October
19 2014. Time for you to get my nation media assassination
episode 662.
This is no agenda,
searching for direct flights from West Africa and
broadcasting from FEMA Region six in the capital drone Star
State in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where I have my siren I'm John
C. Dvorak skill.
I love that siren
is the expensive one.
It's a real instrument is not an electronic sound effect. Nice.
Do you have
a surprise?
I bet I bet the you are the envy of all the kids on the block.
Because I have a surprise. No, because you have that whistle
that went this is deserve you have to order these special.
What's your surprise, John?
There's a clip. Oh. And the clip. I believe it's on there.
competition.
Competition. All right. All right. Here we go.
Oh, there's no winning. We don't like to foster a competitive
atmosphere. But we laugh a lot. Now everyone can share a secret.
You found this great. Oh, good work.
Yes. It was from 2010.
No, it's almost a it's almost a five year old clip. Good work.
I got a couple I have a couple classics from that era. I'll get
to later.
Um, so Well, I have I haven't a new surprise. Okay, while we're
at it. Oh, and let me I wasn't expecting to do this just now.
But I can do it. One of our all time favorite clips is this one
from Dr. Kiki's already? Science, right?
Yes, it's an absolute fate. What
if I told you I have a new favorite from Dr. Kiki? No. Oh,
yes. I'll play you the full length.
The one person could get who favorites telling you
my flu shot a couple of weeks ago. Nice little sore arm for a
couple of days, but it wasn't worth it.
So I've isolated how fabulous is she? Wow, she must be sitting
there just going like let me give something for the boys. He
goes, Hey, boys, he has one for you. I'm gonna get the divorce
back and curry boys they need so it was worth it. Anyway,
let's go over that clip. That was worth it. But the for the 10
bucks. You want to have the
whole segment if you're really interested. I could play that
for you. But it was she went out and got a flu vaccine.
Okay, so what it was worth it? How?
Well let's listen to the clip again. My flu shot a couple of
weeks ago. Nice little sore arm for a couple of days. But it
wasn't worth it. It was worth
I'm convinced she's insane. There's no other your show,
right? Because there is no other context to why it was worth it.
So her arm was sore for a couple of days. But it was more. It was
it's like it's like anal sex. It was
the arm being sore for a couple of days is disconcerning. I
never get it. I used to get flu shots all the time. And I never
had a sore arm from it. And I
don't see how it can be worth it.
No. Besides that there was I don't have the clip. But there
was a there was a woman a vaccine person on the television
discussing what's called herd immunity. Okay, yeah, it's not
individuals getting individual shots that makes a difference.
In fact, most of these vaccines are only about 70% effective on
anyone. And this is very typical. But what you end up
with is you get enough people in the population vaccinated, you
get what's called herd immunity. So the likelihood of actually
even encountering the virus is very
low, because it's very low. Yeah, because it's effectively
been eradicated from the herd
from the herd at that moment, it goes with the flu, of course, it
changes every year. So you have to do this every year. So if you
almost you'd have to, but the thing is a gimmick. We know
every single year if you do it, you know. We'll probably get an
email from her on that one. I
hope so. I'm looking forward to that. Well, well, speaking of
vaccines, and we have a few new jingles today, John as you could
already guess. Here's a surprise for you after multiple requests
Oh
God, isn't it and that's exactly what you wanted. Yes, it was you
wanted the Ebola Matilda?
Yeah, Ebola Matilda's from going from Africa cause diarrhea cause
diarrhea. Every great
one of our big donors today, Robert to Roberto Suarez, Robert
Roberto. I think it's nice. Yeah, he sent a couple in. He's
been on kind of a somewhat of a roll recently. I have more if
you want me I got a couple. Yeah, no,
I'm all game. I love these things. Okay, this is a classic
somewhat ironic since when we began this show, we were all
against Jing are all against it. Exactly.
He boom. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa
and then when
Vic Damone he ain't you know,
and then one final one. Which you may not know I don't know if
you know Orchestral Manoeuvres in the dark. Enola Gay you
probably do well if you when you hear the song it was not a
bomber yes it was a song about the about the one that dropped a
Big Fat Daddy or whatever on Hiroshima here
brahmanas Yes Did
bomber is
a classic from the 80s everybody a Nola strain. Gotta love.
I think we have a Al Yankovic in our midst of several hosts
ever better than probably because you don't they don't
need any money. They just make it and put it out there and not
have to live from it. Thank goodness. Yeah. Well, of course,
well, then let's just get right into it. Since we've played all
the jingles it is now I love when things just come together
in between shows doesn't get much nicer than that. Whereas we
have, I think, conclusively shown that this is a political
scare at the politics of fear is what it is what I would call
this, this Ebola. And the a couple of things happen first,
the president appointed what everyone is calling the Ebola
czar, which of course is the Republicans obviously,
immediately pull up the Tsar name. I think he has an actual
an actual title, which is I think it's Ebola coordinator.
Let me see I had his actual title here somewhere.
You know, the Republicans were demanding he do this. And the
Republicans are the same ones that were moaning and groaning
about all these czars he used to. Just threw out there do from
what I can tell absolutely nothing except collect a
paycheck.
Well, the funny thing is, is that this guy it this is a
complete political high rank Democratic Party insider who has
is very famous for elections.
Yeah, the guy is nothing just this is just a pay off. What?
Well, besides it being Yes, that's a very good point.
Because if you see how he's related with the revolution, LLC
investment Corp, which it goes back to the vet Khun Dre and all
these, who was the guy that came in for healthcare.gov scenes,
Zients? Yeah, it's all the same guys. It's all the same eight
holes and here's Josh Earnest. The contradiction contradiction
in terms name, dude. The White House spokes hole trying to
explain Ron Klain, k l a i n as the as the czar, which of course
is is not really a Republican Republicans. This is a fight
between the Republicans and Democrats for the November 5
elections. And it will become abundantly clear how pathetic
just pathetic this thing really is.
What does Ron Klain know about Ebola, Ebola?
Well, the thing that's let's talk about, let me restate why
this person
is not answering the question.
It gets worse, much worse than this,
why the President believes that it was important to add this
person to his team. He President again, wanted somebody who could
serve in a coordinating function to manage the implementation of
our whole of government approach to this Ebola situation
situation. And so I guess to more directly address your
question. What we were looking for is not an Ebola expert, but
rather an implementation expert. And that's exactly what Ron
Klain is. He's somebody who has extensive experience in the
federal government. He's somebody that has extensive
management experience when it comes to the private sector.
Is he Azar? Is that what is it?
Hi, I'm Adam curry. I used to be with MTV now I'm a czar. Oh,
really? Yes, I'm the Tourette's czar.
His title is here. The Ebola Response Coordinator
Ebola Response Coordinator. Here's how it goes. See if you
can Hello Ron Ron Ron. It says Barak Hiya, Ron. Yeah. Hey, we
need that. We need some help over here, Ron, when this thing
is falling apart on my ass man, these Republicans and doing all
this crazy shit, then trying to ask me, Dan, what are we gonna
know?
And don't worry about it. You gotta run for not running for
reelection or anything. I'll tell you what, why don't you
just put a few of your pals in office? Give us some big money.
And we'll kick it back to you after they're out. We'll set you
up. Good day.
Let's get on it. Click.
I know that there are some Republicans and even some
pundits who are describing him as a pundit czar. They're
certainly welcome to do we describe him as the Ebola
response coordinator?
We describe him as a douchebag
tration, back in 2009, so that there isn't anybody working for
the White House that you would call a czar.
So and we do not call him as our again, that is what Republicans,
Republicans, Republicans, I don't know if that is intended
as a derogatory term that yeah, maybe it is. Maybe some people
mean it that way. And some people don't. We describe him as
the Ebola response coordinator. And we think that he is
exceedingly well suited to the task. And he
he's gonna report to Lisa Monaco and Susan Rice. That's correct.
So are they in charge of the vulnerable
women? The women apparently can't handle it. No one's asked
this question. It says what the women aren't good enough. They
have to some had you had to bring in some guy because the
women can handle it.
That's what I that'd be a great question. That
was what I would say is he is actually the first thing I
thought in charge of the Ebola response.
Well, we've had the opportunity to discuss this quite a bit of
last couple of days. The fact of the matter is fact
of the matter. Here comes alive, Attention, attention lies ahead.
This administration, under the direction of the President is
pursuing a whole of government approach. We've heard funding to
this Ebola situation. So to situate
an approach to the situation, it's a scenario it's a systems
approach. What what the notice they are no longer using the
word outbreak, which the President himself used the
number of times is no longer saying outbreak. Now it's a
situation it's a it's a minor fractus
that needs a glitch since they're very important areas of
responsibility for the Department of Defense in West
Africa. Oh, USA, ID and CDC have responsibilities for some of the
efforts that are underway in West Africa. Yes, here in this
country. There are important responsibilities that the CDC
has for communicating with healthcare professionals. And
with hospitals across the country, DHS has a
responsibility for whole of government borders, each of
those agents about the EPA, they shouldn't be in on this, he says
responsible for performing that work. And it's the
responsibility of Mr. Klain to coordinate those efforts across
agencies and make sure that we are maximizing this whole of
government approach. But ultimately, the buck stops with
the president knighted states as it always does.
So here's the bull crap if you bring this guy into coordinate
across all all of the agencies, why is he reporting to rice and
I forget her name
is Beth Val Valerie Jarrett, but rice.
Well, that's ultimately who everybody reports to were no,
USA Today did a fine rundown on who this guy really is. And
they'll give you an idea of just how his job is to come in and
make sure that this does not mess up the November 5 elections
and and they have the media against them, which I will
demonstrate in a moment. Here, come on Play.
pressure mounts for the White House to take a stronger stance.
What is going on with this clip? Sorry. So
pressure mounts for the White House to take a stronger stance
in the fight against Ebola. Ron Klain will be appointed as
President Obama's Ebola czar,
we haven't had a surgeon general for a year. And that's a job
that would have traditionally done a lot of the this role. So
now they need somebody to come in there and step in and pull a
lot of the various pieces together.
I find that that's a good point that we don't
set up.
So yeah, but it's a good setup clean
has served as a top aide to Al Gore during the 2000 election.
He also served as an advisor for John Kerry's presidential
campaign and chief of staff to Vice President Joe Biden. In
2011. He left the White House to serve in the private sector.
Well, he knows so many people inside of Washington inside of
government. He's a super lobbyist inside Yeah, policy
community. He knows how to make things work because that's one
of the things that the President needs right now.
Cleans role as general counsel to Al Gore's 2000 recount
committee was the focus of the 2008 film recount. Oscar winning
actor Kevin Spacey played Klain in the HBO movie, because he's
such a czar, good to say Mr. Klain. Sort of the best man win,
then. You bet.
There's no winning. You're sure. There's the spies the Ebola
czar, a White House official says claim will be responsible
for coordinating the administration's whole of
government response. to Ebola,
very nice.
There's no winning. We don't like to foster a competitive
atmosphere, but we laugh a lot. Now everyone hug and share a
secret. A big
problem that is taking place right now. And I just saw in the
quiet of the corner of my eye Ted Cruz, who have just lost all
respect for our own with Michelle candy corn. What's her
name?
Crowley candy. No, not Crowley. Cindy Candy. Candy Crowley.
Candy Crowley? Yeah, it is Crowley,
and he is leading the Republicans and saying we need a
travel ban travel ban travel ban. Now, this is a problem. If
you implement a travel ban, we can't have soldiers coming back
and forth. You know, to get new supplies for god knows
oil. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not true. We can't get
the health workers back and forth. I'm sorry. Excuse me, you
got to
help. I'm sorry. Talking Points. Next. The health workers? Yes.
So the President did a an off the cuff. Little news thingy
there with I think the new woman from Health and Human Services.
And the first thing he does, and just because he says this, I
want to play and again quickly seen
some progress in Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea. But we
haven't seen enough. We've got more work to do. And the good
news is, is that increasingly, when I talk to these world
leaders, what you're seeing is a recognition that
we're leader number one, do you recognize? We need some Yeah.
The sooner we control this outbreak, at the source in West
Africa, the less our person, our people are going
to be at risk. You know, this really bothers me actually, when
he says this, you know, I've been calling world leaders. And
I said to the world leader, as I said, Why don't you tell me who
you talk to Angular? Putin. But we'll need to give him on Van
Rompuy. Barossa. What world leaders? Did he talk to? Ban Ki
Moon? Rice? Yes, exactly. I
think more and more of them are stepping up. Although it's I
think, taking longer than it should. And that's something
that all of us should recognize.
I don't understand why he keeps saying we have to recognize that
not everybody, or some more and more are stepping up. And by the
way, the term stepping up and on my team. It reminds me of
someone you and I both know, a pathological liar. Does what a
flower does? Yeah. And he would use these exact terms. Yeah,
when to step up. And that was that was always to me was like a
signal of saying you're full of crap. It's whatever you're
saying is a lie. And you're just giving,
you shouldn't be saying that it should be raising the bar.
Okay, you got me on that. Now here is here he is trying to get
something going, he has a real problem with this Republican
call. And and I'm telling you, I have heard people say this, it
has been so effective, mainly from Obama bots, who are saying,
Oh, we we have to quarantine these countries. And we have to
have a travel ban. And of course, there's no direct flight
really, from any of these West African countries. We know that
guy, that guy came from Belgium, which is the fallacy and the
joke of it all. But for whatever reason. And of course, this is
for the health workers. The President really want is trying
to nip this in the bud. And he's got almost the entire press
corps. Helping him with it here is his his call to action about
hey, this is crazy, man, we should not everyone advises me
my world leaders, my friends and my team have been stepping up
and advise me not to do the one issue
that I want to address. Because I know this has been a topic
consistently in the news is the issue of a travel ban.
Yeah, it's going to hurt the election. So let me talk about
this. We don't want this to become the talking point of the
Republicans for the election.
And I know that you've heard from some public health experts
about this, but I want to make sure that everybody's clear
about the issue. I don't have a philosophical objection
necessarily to a travel ban.
What does that mean? philosophical objection. I
didn't know it was a philosophy isn't a healthy shadows.
I got a book of Hegel here. Let me start going through as soon
as anything about travel bans in his thinking,
philosophy philosophical what why would he say philosophical
because it's not about your safety, ladies and gentlemen,
it's about winning the elections and this thing, it backfired or
they weren't ready for it or the Republicans figured out a
strategy and this is the only you are not in any danger
whatsoever. It's very difficult. I see people making who it was
to Saturday morning wake up. She's so it's unbelievable, even
though I understand what the take you guys have on it and I
feel safe, you know, even living to our through a couple hours
from Dallas. NPR was so nonstop hammering Ebola Ebola, Ebola,
Ebola She had nightmares about Ebola even she and she's she's
not sick like the rest of him. So just imagine NPR, Obama Ebola
but and then the President says you don't need to travel ban
their brains are exploding people's minds are frying it's
too late. The fear has already been setting with popular
culture and movies. You the people are freaking out for
you. Back you have to back up a couple of steps and see why this
happened. Because Ebola has been Ebola has been we've been
brainwashed about Ebola for about 10 to 20 years ever since
the first ever since it first came out of the labs in the mid
70s. They started talking about it as this horrible thing that's
in Africa and we've had all
these movies you know like a contagion what was the mood for
it and Dom had Andromeda Strain or when it dried dry outbreak
a bola movies and they had to blow kill everybody.
And this is what you hear on NPR about Ebola is?
miserable. It is gross. Yeah. Yes,
my favorite scene and everyone probably seen this in at least
one movie. I think I've seen it in a couple of different movies.
The guy is in the containment area. And something breaks in
either he drops a vial or the guy that's in the bucket jumps
up and the other guy catches this whatever it is. Within five
seconds, catches the tester and blows off. His eyes start to
bleed his glass blowing my dad's to help me and he's up against
the glass in his ears and eyes and mouth or blood gushing out
in the guy drops dead on the spot within like 15 seconds of
movie.
I think this indoctrination started when I was a kid with
Donald Sutherland in scanners. I remember that movie where their
heads would explode if you caught it.
So So I'm curious, they just reading about the special
effects and scanners they have. This was one of those movies by
that was this your Saturday night reading? Yeah, so I'm
reading about the singer, they had nothing but trouble with the
guy's head blowing up at the end of the movie, or the one sport
where they blow them all up. And they're all sitting at the desks
at the Dyess or whatever. And they their heads blow up. So
they have a copy of the guy's head that is
filled with a copy like is it like a 3d model? What is it?
Yeah, no,
that's not his head. It's, it's a model. And they end it but
it's like some sort of rubber that can they can pump it up
with air and then it make it blow up. And they said it was so
cheesy over and over again, they could never get the thing to
work. And so so the the Special Effects Director, the way he
finally did it, he says we're gonna get a slow mo camera, put
it on the guy fill the the phony head with a bunch of blood and
guts, and then take a shot gun, blow it off the chair.
Excellent. And just blow his head out with a shotgun. And
that's how they did that scene.
And when you think the low tech version, you'd think these guys
could do better beheading videos by now it's so easy just to the
spaghetti and a balloon, you know, could get with it. They
won't hire the people that know what they're doing. Alright,
let's continue with the President with his huge
philosophical issue.
That is the thing that is going to keep the American people
safe. The problem is, is that in all the discussions I've had
thus far with experts in the field, experts in infectious
disease,
let's not name any of them
is that a travel ban is less effective than the measures that
we are currently Institute. If we institute a travel ban,
instead of the protocols that we put in place now, history shows
that there is a likelihood
what history Do I have a history of
this never happened before? He's talking about a history
I think is the Spanish flu that he's referring to. History has
shown
an increased avoidance, people do not readily disclose their
information, they may engage in something called Broken travel,
broken travel. It's a it has a term, they may engage in
something called Broken travel, travel. It's called the non
direct flight. There's no nonstop flight for most of these
countries, hello, essentially breaking
up their trip so that they can hide the fact that they have
been to one of these countries where there's a disease in
place. As a result, we may end up getting less information
about who has the disease.
You know, you think with all this, these databases and
everything we do for terrorists, we could track a couple
Africans, no, no broken Travelmate crew can't track
them, they're less likely
to get treated properly screened properly quarantine properly.
And as a consequence, we could end up having more cases rather
than less. Now. I continue to push and ask our experts whether
in fact we are doing what's adequate.
I don't want what's adequate. Why does he say I don't want
adequate what's what's mean by top of the All right, I don't
want adequate, adequate, I don't want adequate I want this guy,
where's this guy,
there's a need for rescue mission. When the world is
threatened, the world needs help calls on America.
And that's the store and we're adequate
and ask our experts whether in fact, we are doing what's
adequate in order to protect the American people. If they come
back to me, and they say that there's some additional things
that we need to do. I assure you, we will do it
doesn't adequate mean? Like the bare necessity kind of adequate,
adequate, it kind of gets the job done.
It gets the job done, kinda.
So the call went out to all the friendly media. And we have some
examples of, hey, we know how the call went, we don't have to
do it. We need some help. We need to discredit this travel
ban because the Republicans are gaining traction. And now we
have Ted Cruz on the Cindy candy show. And everyone's freaking
out. We need to know this is like Goldman Sachs wife, he's a
lawyer. He's a smart guy. The Republicans love him. We have to
snip this. But let's start with ABC. Good Morning America. How
and I just want to amplify such an important point that you made
about Eric Duncan Charles Duncan's family not being sick
thus far does speak how hard it is to contract this
virus. Yeah, is
not an airborne disease. And that's why some who are calling
for a flight ban, they're
saying that's not going to work, because this is only passed
through bodily fluids back and forth.
And it's a great corrective to all the fear and in some cases
out there in
which you wish you would you were all a part of you morons.
Everyone's like, Oh, crap. No, we blew it. Now. It now all
everyone's afraid. Let's go to MSNBC quick, Abby Huntsman, help
us out help the President.
As you know, we've been having a debate in this country around
whether we should ban all flights to I
haven't had any debate in this country. It's a debate in
Washington between the Republicans and Democrats, you
douche
West Africa, you have a number of Republicans that are saying,
Oh, here she
is. Here it is. Proof. This is only about the elections. Now we
move into talking about pa
why haven't we already done this? We are now in this
situation. And the President said last night look, we are not
banning flights for a number of reasons. We'll keep monitoring
it. Where do you fall on this debate?
Well, from the side
of the Democrats, of course, well,
it makes no sense to ban flights from the Ebola affected
countries. We don't have any direct flights. Why
didn't anyone say that to the President? When Mr. President,
we didn't have any direct flights? Should we like what?
Bus shut down from Guinea, Sierra Leone or Liberia. But if
you think about if your neighbors bathtub was leaking,
and it was running into your house,
here come the analogies and this is talking points this 100%
talking points. It's a good one. What if your neighbor's bathtub
is leaking? John and it's dripping into your house? What
do you do? I'm calling the police.
Would you go help them fix the leak? Or would you try to build
the paint rubber walls or something? And they would make
no sense. And really the way that we are going to contain
Ebola is at the source and really a travel.
Paint rubber walls. Yeah, that was that was that supposed to
mean? What kind of who wrote that?
That was Touray tour the Rolling Stone reporter who thinks he's
under her journalist now? Touray, rubber Wolf, robot
world? No, you have to fix the problem. You got to help your
neighbor. Now we call the police, of course, absolutely.
Call 911. That's for that. Trust me. 90% of Americans would call
911. That's how dumb we become led the
way that we are going to continue? What is at the source?
And really a travel ban or even talking about a travel ban is
counterproductive? Because what we need now is a surge of health
workers. Talking about
it is counterproductive.
Yeah, because it gives the Republicans and a leg up. Huh?
What do you have in your mouth?
I'm listening to this thing. And he has some Craisins
Craisins? Is that what is a crazy one?
By the way, that was the last one. I just ate it. Oh, you
didn't share with the
class? What is it crazy? It's something as a raisin?
dried cranberry.
Because what we need now is a surge of health workers who want
to go if they can't come back. Exactly. And so this is actually
going to make it much tougher.
There's your health workers that can't come back. The health
workers can't come back. Oh, let's go to Charlie Rose.
Charlie is always good when we need him on CBS that would help
us out try to take into the politics brother.
So they want the answer. I don't believe that there's still hope
in the focus groups that I do the level of anger and cynicism,
and just laughs That atmosphere played to the hands of people
who want to call for radical answers. I mean, who will push
for the most conservative most in terms of not democratic
Republicans, but most toughest measures possible in terms of
quarantine in terms of inspection, in terms of all of
that?
I think, I think what do you think coverages is maybe the
most conservative, but also in some sense is the most liberal.
What it calls for is people to go out there and make grand
promises. What happens when you have trust this low is it's you
need a series of trust building exercises in government to
create small incremental benefits.
This guy is literally talking about the election of Charlie
Rose starts about Ebola. They're talking about the fact that the
current administration and just government in general has very
low trust issues, according according including the
president. He's just out and out discussing it now. Yes. And
here's great CDCs Frieden on the Hill being grilled by
Republicans. Of course. Have you had
conversations with the White House about a travel ban trying
to catch the smoking
gun? We can get this guy come on, let's see if we can get
we've
that's a yes or no question.
No question will be answered with yes or no, I don't think
so. We would certainly consider anything that will reduce risk
to Americans. Yeah, of course. You're all part of it.
Everyone's running into interference. And here is the
final one. On the morning joke. Another MSNBC. This is pretty
incredible. Said the morning joke guy. They've got the
Burzynski child. And then they bring in the guy from Huffington
Post's When did Huffington Post become an authority on anything.
They got their start by stealing stories from everybody else.
They're still stealing stories. Yeah. So who is Sam Stein? Is he
a well known reporter, Sam Stein sounds like a man on the
streets. It sounds like a mate like a DJ named
Sam. No, Sam Stein was doing a New York maybe. And Sam
Stein takes it to the most ridiculous level, which I think
is I have to give him props
to stand having to post I think Likkle are based in Washington.
Okay. We used to be at Newsweek before it folded in the New York
Daily News.
You know, I was trying, I was trying to look at a Newsweek
story today. On my I have a Nexus seven 2012 version tablet,
which is that's the word that's the year you want to have 2012
We're like, cut out some good stuff. And you bring up Newsweek
and you try to scroll down the page, and it keeps flashing back
to the top because it's trying to JavaScript, these full page
takeover ads. hate you, Newsweek. I can't I will never
look at another Newsweek article again, because of this idiocy.
You people are stupid. All right. Listen to Sam Stein. With
a, I think an excellent, this is the explanation I would run with
because because I believe the President can actually sell this
to people who are moronic enough to believe in it. And I think
that's probably more than half the country.
I'm not an expert in this area. I just want somebody to give me
a logical reason why we don't severely limit people from these
countries. I'm not, I'm not advocating a quarantine. I get
this. Okay, take your crack, Sam, because he tried last week
and you were wrong. All right. Go, Sam. The
nexus of the problem with Ebola is not in America, it's in West
Africa. And until you get right situation in West Africa under
control, we will never be actually out of the woods with
respect to a bowl. So when you look at a travel ban, you have
to look at it holistically What is it
holistically we got to look at it. Now, I think that what does
that even mean? I think it's well, it's along the lines of
philosophically and I think when you say something, it's another
pathologic word. No, it's another pathological liar. Word.
We've heard that people use this holistically all the time. I've
heard people use it in sales meetings. And I've seen very so
called intelligent venture capitalist go, Oh, yeah. Yes.
Let's look at this holistically. Look at a
travel ban. You have to look at it holistically, what does it
mean, not just for America, but for West Africa, and basically
every health official, maybe with a few exceptions, who said
that if you do travel ban, it may in fact, help America but it
will make the situation?
I want you to hear his point
and No, no, but I wanted to hear what was that person? Somebody
said something?
No, I tried to isolate that five times. And it's it's the
Brzezinski child saying something to Joe. I listened.
Okay, I must have tried to isolate. I could she's
whispering something that I think was interesting. I could
not figure it out. Yeah, I believe I tried. But thank you.
I'm glad you caught.
It may in fact, help America but it would make the situation in
West Africa, a whole lot more complex and a whole lot worse.
So this is what I think the strategy should be if they were
had hired the curry Devorah Consulting Group. I would say
you need to tell people that yes, a travel ban might help
America a little bit but it would really hurt Africa. And I
believe he wasn't Yeah, you know what we need to help Africa. And
we could all change our Twitter icon to the con didn't have
Africa.
Bloody eyeball.
If you do a travel ban in that country, people in that country
will panic, there will be political panic, there'll be
social panic. In addition, people in that country will
still try to get out of that country, even though there's a
travel ban, you can't prevent them from trying to get out of
the country. Even if you do have a travel ban, then then it
becomes a question of, okay, let's say someone with Ebola did
try to get out of that country. And they did go to Europe. And
yeah, we stopped them in Europe, from going to the United States,
we still don't have to trace who their contacts were up until
that point. And if you have a travel ban, if they're going
underground, it becomes a lot harder to trace their contacts.
So yes, you might help the situation in America. But the
situation in West Africa is exacerbated and made worse.
I think it's a bold one. But I think if the President came out
and said, we're not just about ourselves in the world, we're
America, we are the indispensable nation. So we
don't just think about ourselves. We don't want to
implement a travel ban, because we want to help all children of
the world, including the children of West Africa. That
would work. I think, I think he could sell that.
I think it's easier to sell. We don't have any flight staff.
Right.
Well, there's that. Then the President, this is very
interesting. The President did a his podcast all about Ebola, of
course, with all kinds of facts. I'm not going to play the whole
thing. But there was this interesting, Alert, alert alert,
which came I think, I think this was Saturday. The President's
podcast is typically done on Friday. So they could have known
that this was against all rules. This happened in Washington DC,
big frightening frightening because you know, it's never
happened world history before where someone has had to puke
because they were riding on a bus.
You can take a look down this street here. We're on Virginia
Avenue Southeast on Capitol Hill. You see this white tour
bus, this bus left pentagon, just a few minutes ago, a
passenger got off of that bus and became ill in the parking
lot and threw up the bus was able to lead through
and this is like the news he talked about on the at school in
the yard. Hey man, do you see that guy he puked yesterday
after getting off the bus. Now now it's
somebody got tricked carsick being in a bus now some national
news.
Let me finish this. This is interested pentagon
and got here but by the time it got here, health officials had
this bus detained. Now what I can tell you I was just about
the first person on the scene here after first responders.
They actually thought I was on the bus as well and tried to
quarantine me but what we can tell you is that about 12 people
passengers and the driver were taken off of that white tour bus
and they have now been isolated on a second bus that has dark
windows we can't see and we don't know what's going on in
that bus. I can't tell you. There are federal officials
here. There are officials from the DC Department of Health. DC
fire has been on the scene and DC police are on the scene.
Now I don't understand how this work. This is Washington DC. You
think that in Washington DC not only NBC News, but all of these
police and CDC and who else that have on the scene would have at
least watch the President's podcasts
first step in this fight is knowing the facts. First, he
bola is not spread through the error like the flu. You cannot
get it from casual contact like sitting next to someone on a
bus.
Oh, well, what is this?
Yeah, no, they didn't listen. Not listed. Besides it's not
good news. Like you're rounding everybody up on a bus. I feel
really sorry for the Bloomix out there.
Everyone's jumping on the bandwagon. Big time, including
Johns Hopkins, Hopkins, Hopkins, hip ska hip hop, John Hip Hop
School of Medicine. Michael Osterholm is he runs the
contagious infectious disease or something or other CIDR AP. And
this guy. He's looking for money. And he has an incredible
pitch that in it. This was on a big stage with lots of people
who control lots of money. And he's just shameless about it.
If West Africa was a can of gas waiting for a match to hit it,
the rest of Central Africa is a tanker truck waiting for a match
to hit it. And we don't quite get that. Yeah. Ah, and there is
no plan B No. Plan B,
no plan B.
How would we fight this? If in fact, this were to suddenly
flare up in one of these cities.
I'm going to give you a chance right here. If you know what
plan C is. He doesn't know Plan B he will tell you what plan C
is. I'm curious if you can already guess what plan C will
be from the John's Hip Hop School of Medicine.
I have no idea. Yet you do
along the belt in Equatorial Africa. What can we do? Could we
fight it on two fronts. We can't fight it on one front. We suck
And all I'm asking for is not to divert anything from West
Africa, but somebody better be thinking about a plan B. Okay,
where is it? We're. So what's Plan C? Oh, are you sure you
don't know.
extermination of the continent? I have no idea.
Well, ultimately, yeah, I think I think this His Plan C will
result in that.
Plan C, for me is one that I think is the only hope we really
have. Oh, and that's vaccine.
But what do we need for vaccine? We need tons of money for all
kinds of terms I've never heard of before. I'm convinced of it.
Yes, I'm
sure I believe this will be an endemic disease, I do believe we
can have an effective Ebola vaccine, I am convinced to that.
And I really believe we can. And you're the guy to do it if we
spend more money, but there's a big disconnect between the
money, the work to get us there, and the money, the time it takes
to get us there. And then getting into somebody in Africa.
Hey, we got to get it into somebody in Africa. That sounds
pretty vile.
And what we're not doing right now, we're not basically gaming
this all the time.
Yeah, you're gaming it your game you went through when we're
talking about a $57 million investment United States. That
sounds like a lot of money. And I thank the United States for
that. But that's shit money. Come on. That's a drop in the
bucket if we're really interested in moving vaccine.
And these regard, actually, we need to be dealing with
everything at the same time. The r&d, the potential for measuring
how it's going to work, whether it's vaccine effectiveness,
efficacy, however, how are we going to make it? Where are we
going to make it? How are we going to do finish and fill
finish? How are we going to actually get it to Africa? Will
it need a cold chain? How will that be sustained? To get it
into the Africans? I want to know that now.
Yeah. A cold chain
didn't mean cold. It was.
I think it's a code change.
I think it's a cold.
I think it's good code. There's no any insurance chain where
you would have to be refrigerated the whole way we
listen. We're measuring how it's going to work, whether it's
vaccine effectiveness, efficacy, however, how are we going to
make it? Where are we going to make it? How are we going to do
finish infill? How are we going to actually get it to Africa?
Will it need a cold chain? How will that who's gonna get it
into the Africans, I want to know that now
I just want to know who's going to get it into the Africans.
That sounds like a fun job.
So he's going on begging for money. Sam Stein, the guy that
was on earlier, let me read a headline. So a couple of
articles from the HuffPo. The tangled story of why Ebola
vaccine research came up short. Obama also pushed for CDC cuts
two years before the Obama Ebola outbreak. Ebola vaccine would
likely have been found by now if it weren't for budget cuts. By
the Republicans. Of course, it says the NIH director there is
one more one more of these along the same lines. Not the bottom
Hang on. Yeah, law Martin lawmakers tried to save science
funding. Anyway, yeah, no, this is a it's hilarious. These guys.
You know, it's not as though their budgets have been cut. We
will say it again on this show was keep saying it. It's the
increase in budgets.
It's not even it's just it's just blame. It's just blame for
it right now on CNN Lower Third, Ebola as an election issue on
the Cindy candy show. This is so obvious. So stop, people listen
to the show. And I'll include Mickey, she said this morning,
you could be wrong. I said Cathy could be
could be wrong. Holy crap. No. She
thought that's a valid point. She was she wasn't saying like,
like I'm wrong. She said you couldn't be wrong. Yes, I could.
But I could be wrong. It could be wrong. In what way? That we
all die from
Ebola. Yeah, we're all gonna die from Ebola. Yeah, that's
possible. No, it's not. It's not remotely possible for
girls has listened to NPR and gotten indoctrinated. She's been
so horrible. Believe me, she's not saying we're stupid. We're
wrong. No, I'm not saying that. She's saying the voice of reason
to trigger me to continue my research well, which we need $57
million. Just a drop in the bucket for the research we do
here at the no agenda show. We need to know if there's gonna be
a cold train Chai Coltrane called play. We didn't know the
winner of Green Day. We need some money for this. Meanwhile,
the funniest part of of this whole thing is Ron cleans
brother, David S Klain, who clearly is suffering from
involuntary social network disorder. And you can I believe
this to be his real Twitter account. I'm not 100% Sure. It
appears to be real if you go to twitter.com/david claim. And
he's making it very, very funny.
I'll read how you spell is it da vi d k
l a i n. And I shall read some of his tweets. It was you know,
why would anybody Got a mock thing for him? It doesn't make
sense. This probably is him
like Ron won't do this and he and he posts a picture of bush
with mission accomplished on the aircraft carrier.
He's got 39 followers.
My brother will do a great job. Breitbart News fuck off.
instapundit Sukkot our liberty freedom SUCK IT twitchy teams
suck it to every every right wing Republican Twitter feed or
publication here. The bill Heron Go fuck yourself. This is the
guy
he's not he's like the
he's like Roger Clinton stand up guy. Yeah, but he's an idiot.
It's like, Hey, David, you bet your bro Ron.
Mitch will ditch do
Sacco lay
lay off the Twitter man for a little bit. Do you mind a little
bit man? Just let me get in there hookah Polka oh this is so
funny this the bring the what's that guy's name the the former
ESPN reporter with the dreadlocks who's always on CNN
now now he's the he's the political Maven on the
Olbermann. Yeah with the dreadlocks Keith all the black
Keith Olbermann with the dreadlocks. That guy you know, I
mean, no,
he's a sports guy.
I don't know anybody with dreadlocks offhand. That's a
sports guy that does that those announcing reads on the
TV so he used to be on ESPN and somehow he became like the
democratic spokes whole on CNN and all things black issues. Oh,
come on. Someone in the chat room should have already given
this to me by now. This is laying
that curl dal guy. No, not him.
And now the talk now. So what someone will come up with
us that dreadlocks had have me confused.
Well, he has dreadlocks. Okay. Say when you when you hear to
go? Granberry No, no.
No. All right. Anyway, go on doesn't matter. I'll try to find
out using the Wikipedia and one of my, my search talents.
Hold on, let me give you some search talent. While the chat
room doesn't even take the effort, that just guessing Hey,
you're on the computer grill. So vixen won a bunch of unhelpful
people. Richard Nixon. Yeah, that would be him. So this is
this is truly pathetic with the Ebola response. It's Bob Marley.
There you go. Thank you chat room. With this, this response
coordinator being a political operative who runs campaigns.
That's what he does. That's what he does. This has nothing to do
not need to be afraid of a single thing is really not a
single thing. As we've pointed out, and there's a reason I
believe why all of these news channels and news programs have
Granderson, I think it is Granderson. LZ Granderson.
That's what LZ Paya that Kelsey LZ there's a reason why the news
is all in on this and why they they hyped it up and then dialed
it back. The hype was, of course, the ratings were off the
hook for these guys. I saw I saw when CNN rebroadcast a C span
stream of the Ebola hearings, their ratings were double
double.
And that was hearings. Yeah.
But now it's ratings Bonanza, but now they have to dial it
back because we as the President told them to and we have the
election money coming in for the commercials. So we have to you
know, we have to start adjusting everything. Because people do
not these people care about staying in power or grabbing
power depending on who they are, they do not care about you. And
they do not care about scaring you because
it was worth it.
It was worth it. We on the other hand, very similar to another
fantastic mirific newsletter you sent out chapeau bas again for
the newsletter. We do not need to resort to these tactics. In
fact, we cannot we cannot even contemplate having advertising
before we would not be able to tell you the absolute truth. Now
they're getting around to it now with what two weeks to go. Could
this be an election issue? Oh, those horrible Republicans.
They're just hyping it up then and it's really not that bad now
I think just ignore everything we said before.
That's that's they they've they've painted themselves into
a corner. They've they've ruined their own credit. I mean, the
real key thing, and I'm sure they're Democrats, strategists
have been thinking along these lines, these Republicans could
be called out We're making a big fuss about nothing Yeah, but now
but they can't because the same people have been pushing it
themselves and now they look like a holes if they point this
out and so so they're they've been to actually literally
whoever and I don't know he'd say literally but whoever set
this thing up the Republican side set up the media to and the
media.
Do you think it really was that it was a long game like that
like? I don't think so either. I think it was just fortuitous.
And I wonder, Bucky? Yes. Yeah. I wonder who did it? Probably
someone woke up on Hey, I got an idea. stupid moron. They're all
all just horrible people I'm so disappointed in democracy.
And I'd like to thank you for your courage and say it in the
morning to you John C. Dvorak. Well,
that's an interesting thing to say as you open up the
spreadsheet. And I'll say to you, Adam curry in the morning
to you also, in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the
ground, feet in the air subs in the water. And all the days and
nights out
there in the morning to our chat room. Come on chat room, human
resources. Good to have you there. checking us out at that
no agenda stream.com I have no 915 people in the chat.
That's a lot.
That's the stream that made me more in the chat actually, now
could possibly possibly end in the morning to artists 33
timbers, who I do not believe we have chosen artwork from before
33 timbers brought us it was it was an interesting choice we had
to make. There were many very good pieces. I think Nick, the
rat, and Martin JJ came very close. But the 33 timbres was
was only something we could use for this particular episode,
which was the Ebola survival kit with a clipboard and your
regular pants and your short sleeve shirt. I thought that was
actually
this was a very debatable when we couldn't use a couple of them
for different kinds of different kinds of reasons. It's hard to
it was a tough decision. But this one was the best all
around. I think it worked.
And please always be looking at the artwork. I think I forwarded
you an email from Sir Ramsey Kane.
Well, the photos Yeah, he's
framed these photos and a number of no agenda pieces of artwork
and has them on his office wall. And I have to say it looks
pretty smart.
He did a really good job, whoever or whoever did the
framing for him. I think he did the frame himself did of well,
he's just he's a good framer, because he's got they look very
professional. Maybe I'll put a picture of that I picked up put
a picture of that in the next newsletter.
He said some picture posted. Let me actually there was something
that caught my eye. I see. Ramsey gay Crusader says LZ
Granderson is the gay black sports guy just so you know.
That's, yeah, only our and only our global intelligence network
has this kind of information, letters and jump? Well, it's
good to know we take it into account.
We got a letter. He's got a letter from somebody.
He says he got some 11 by 17 inch range from Hobby Lobby. And
through the compositions together in Inkscape. You should
put the instructions up for that because it's it's well done. It
looks very nice. You put up a how to this you could give these
away to as Christmas gifts, or summer or winter solstice gifts.
Or how Hanukkah gifts?
Well, I think it only works when there's a bunch of them. Of
course, one lone one. I
don't know. It has to be a series. It's very well done. I
like it a lot.
Well, we'd have the show. We'll see that people see the picture
in the next newsletter. All right, let's thank a few people
for this show. Yes. The producers one of them is a black
knight by the way, it should be changed to black knight for
Terry Stelly in Mobile, Alabama. $1,000. He has a note that he's
not an instant he's an instant Knight. Yes, but he's an instant
Black Knight. Because this actually came in you want
what doesn't happen often, but this is the second one and as
many weeks?
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clear out once a month and so I cleared it out and there bingo
boom. Shakalaka was $1,000
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Chakalaka nice, very, very good. You should try the other one.
Which is just Boom shakalaka No, you know, did you see that photo
of the football field or whatever it was and had Boom
shakalaka
has been around for a while. Boom. Shakalaka is not like
news. It's just it's new for our show.
I just donated $1,000 To become an instant aid using visa I
couldn't find a place to send his note because the particular
native advertising He's slipping in there. That's what he does.
Well, we get a check. I just can't take it anymore. After
listening to the heartbreaking dejection in John's voice to the
last show, this was like a month ago, I realized that guilt I
realized the guilt that I had for listening to the best
podcast in the universe without fulfilling my part of the value
for value model by not donating and it's risen to climactic
proportions, hence the instant night. I realized today today I
realized today that I am going to it I
think this is a speech. Oh, I did try it. Do we have a little
a little music for me? I might have I might have something for
you here. Yeah, hold on. Okay. I'll give you this. Yeah, okay.
Ready.
I realized today that I must rent by myself of my douche bag
free fly an effort to enjoy the no agenda show like tonight
donation with by profoundest apologies from Hansford. I would
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would also like to challenge my buddy John P from Lafayette, who
has also failed the value for value model accordingly, please
give him a douche bag douche bag and lay to him this challenge.
If you're a cat's from his segways and starts to donate, I
will match his donations dollar for dollar until he two becomes
the night of the no agenda roundtable. With any luck. Oh,
agenda challenge will spread throughout our own nation. Guys
can keep up the outstanding work.
Hail Caesar.
And then he wants a douching and a little girl Yay. Okay.
Keep the music going from Owen Harrison. y'all enjoy this. And
thank you very much, sir. You've been deep do
you've got Carmen in Nashville.
figured he would want it. Well, that's a great one. Thank you
very much. Thank you for your prose
as beautiful very good dollar for dollar for his buddy
and I look forward to to the ceremonies later today. Yeah,
great.
Okay, now we have Can we have a this is an interesting one. This
is Christina Guillo.
Is this Ryan's wife? Yes.
And she I guess she gave 33333 We need an extra penny I
believe. But if this is calculator,
I happen to have one right here which I'll drop.
So she said A Night Day, a day. Well, Night Day, and she sent a
handwritten note but unfortunately it starts off in
the morning. I may be too. I may have had too many glasses of
wine while writing. Cool. So I have to use like a big
magnifying glass to read this thing. As promised, here are my
second and third installments for the dame hood. Since I play
roller derby was interesting for the Michigan City brawlers
fantastic no way the Michigan City brawl and Betty's
brawlin Betty is Oh wow. Wow, we needed a picture of all of them.
Yeah, with the name. Chrissy. Chrissy. Chrissy, bang, bang.
Bang bang. Yes.
Did you see the picture?
No, she sent it to you.
I forwarded it to you. I forwarded it to Eric he put it
in the email so you can see it again.
Okay, I'll look at it and one of the shade look at it now. Well,
yes. My attitude. You're like
she's crazy. gillows Bang.
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See what we got here.
Oh, cow girl,
because she could do some
jammin. Yeah, exactly. Well, that
block and with the elbow.
I didn't I didn't know the roller derby thing that makes it
even better now.
Yeah, I request that I'd be called Dame bang bang. Please
give me some hookers and Molly.
Oh, I take these roller derby girls, man hookers and Molly.
Yeah, Molly. I encourage you to make JC DS mother's a real
recursive bid. The Chinese are buying up all the toilet paper.
Ken made me literally choke on my coffee. Finally, per Adams co
pliant I mean a request complaint complaint I mean
requests from, from my previous donation I have sent photos to
Adam of me sir D H. slammer and, and our our, our the, our three
Human Resources Hope you enjoy.
Yeah. So they're really cute pictures of their kids and of
Circulo with his kids and then there's this picture of David
Bang Bang which is just pretty, pretty. I love it. I love it.
And she says at the end here, I instead of a jingle request, I'd
like to request a rain stick jam session of appropriate length
for Santa Barbara.
Wow, okay, that's, that's a big request.
We need rain but not flash floods. All right, thank you
from your thank you for your courage and then PS JCD. catches
a turkey. I'll dress it in and cook it for him.
Alright, so we've not had this request for a long time. I want
to I want to point out that the rainstick very dangerous. Yeah,
it's not entirely accurate. I mean, it can rain in other
places as well. And I don't really like rain in Austin, but
it's a it's a request from a Danish
rain anywhere. Right? Yeah, I'm going I'm
going hit me
gotta get like drugs and get some toilet paper because the
Chinese are buying it out
all right. Well, we're having nothing but fun here in the no
agenda show. Next in the morning, in the morning, Sir
David Foley and losses lost. Oh,
man. I'm not ready for anything today. This is a horrible,
yes. Where are you? Where are you?
Well, I'm here I'm here America hashtag coming soon. Hashtag why
is this thing not working? Hashtag please drag into the
thing. Oh, man, what's going on? Oh, it's a PDF. Trying to drag
the train
and make a PDF.
I'm trying to play a PDF and it's not working.
A Foley isn't really saying much. She sends us a cartoon,
which is kind of funny.
It's his 10th anniversary.
I didn't get that note.
I saw it in a posting. Oh, it's 10th
anniversary of what?
Of his wedding anniversary. Oh, yeah.
Oh, congratulations. Yeah. That's great. I noticed that he
sent you one of those little boxes.
Oh, yeah. You need one of those. Yeah, but the setup I have to
talk about the setup.
And I can say this now unequivocally, so I bought the
cable. Oh, the 4k TV. The doubler cable that Saiki makes.
It's it doesn't work.
Oh, right. After you told me to buy one. Well, who knew? You
said you got to get one of these is great. That's what you said
you hadn't actually tried it and you take your horrible. Do you
forward links without reading the article too? Oh, yeah. Okay.
Well, there you go. My own fault for trusting you. Well, it
might work on your system. I think it's my box, my direct
DISH Network box. I think it's got some signals on it or
something when this thing sees the single makes a white flash.
So when you plug it in, it's just it looks fine. It's
beautiful. But it really does the job. It really cleans up the
1080 P turns into 4k But but then bump flash flash flash? And
then you watch a little bit flash flash flash flash?
That's no good. You sounds like your box is faulty?
No, I think it's just just not incompatible. This is the
problem. We're going to have more and more of this stuff. Oh,
the box is old. So it's probably HDMI, whatever number that
doesn't have some signal. And I'm going to try it on the Roku
three. And if it doesn't, if it doesn't flash on that, then I'll
keep it otherwise I'm sending it back. Yeah, well, I'll have to
send mine back to now. Well, it depends. You may have newer gear
than I have a Roku three. Well, ya know if it works, it should
work on the Roku three. If it doesn't, it's goes back. I
haven't connected it. So but I did order it just blindly based
on your recommendation, which now I know I
went under specs. This is the problem. I keep telling people
never to do this.
You published an article which you said you would do about the
death of broadcasting. Yeah, what
do you think? Oh, I
thought it was spot on. As always. What was funny is
there's a ham radio forum. And then you know the ham guys that
are kind of nuts about it. They're just nuts. And they
broadcast if not dead, we're on the air and it's not exactly
what he means. Just the mouse guy actually posted a link to an
article or you said the cable modems would never work
at the time that would that was very accurate. It was absolutely
accurate at the time like 1989 or 9095. This was 20 years ago
and everything he said happened. The old stuff from 20 years ago.
You know, I said, Well, this is gonna work because it wasn't
working. Yeah, works. 20 years later, you can find on you can
find articles, interviews of me where I say I'll never get
married. And you've been married twice. Well, I'm still married.
Thank you very much. Although that's questionable if you read
the press.
Well, that's only the Dutch press. Nobody gives a crap
a number of people had seen this here. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. The
mouse guy you know how they heard about it what
douchebags was saying this I'm gonna put on my blacklist
it's an amateur radio read it.
Oh, yeah, that means it was a Macintosh guy. These guys holy
graduates. Unbeliev master by the way, the mouse will be dead
eventually.
It's already happening where we have touchscreen. So yeah, it
will come around. Yeah,
I'll be the wall what a visionary that guy was when you
die and finally we get for a last Associate Executive
Producer for show 662 is Trevor Mudge from Ann Arbor Michigan
for 200 hours I do not have a note or anything pretty clear
if I have anything for Trevor. Now we don't have a very
sophisticated system we really rameters
what are the the no agenda club I believe that has been set up
at meets every so often in Michigan. Oh, okay.
No, I did not have a Trevor.
Alright, Trevor, he got some sent to us.
Yeah, I don't have a Trevor email. Sorry. Wow. Okay. Very
nice group. Thank you very much. To our executive producers and
Associate Executive producers. These are the credits that are
real this is the only way the show works properly. So that we
can explain a little bit what you had in the newsletter if
people you're missing out if you're not subscribed to this
newsletter. I have people subscribing to the newsletter
who are just interested in the news not even the content just
the newsletter they love how then they'd make their own
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an opening What was your title check this out? That was how was
the open rate on that how did that happen? No
yet I give it one week for a total you can only do that once
a year you can't like do us like the other company Hey singers I
have been working on my headlines because I study him
which is you have to do and I can do my won't believe and A by
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have when I talk to some of the people that do direct mail, I
know what it is. I know what it is. Of course you know it is I
told you what it is pictures of Adam pictures of Adam falling
overboard a picture of you on the water yeah, that's the one
that got the most people to see this wet bastard the water all
these people who are like yeah, man, we got to, you know, fight
the government fight the power save the world. Because of Adam
fallen overboard. Yeah. That's the ticket, how shallow you all
are,
it's actually embarrassing
to kind of is, but a great newsletter. And once again, you
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Broadcasting is dead. So I hear when
people read that articles running in PC Magazine, it's
called I don't know what it says the depth of broadcasting or
something that changed the headline a little bit on me. And
it discusses, you know, the what's going on. And it's a it's
the trend is obvious to me. And there's one thing
you could have mentioned, because a lot of people say
yeah, but you know, Sirius XM, this is really, this is, you
know, this is the way to go. And there's a reason why it's called
Sirius XM is because they could not exist as a competing entity.
So they had to merge. And these satellites, they need to be
replaced eventually. And these guys what are they in debt $10
billion away in that same amount. And it's
it's more or less the same kind of model only as national. I
mean, the problem with terrestrial obviously is it has
limited range and reach. But with the satellite, you can hit
the whole country. And but it's still you know, you can't
go indoors unless you have the indoors hook up and you have to
cause a problem and a six expensive to do. That's like you
said the satellites have to be replaced. They're hard to
maintain. You know, when
when these things really need to be replaced, I think the
satellites name was named rock and the others name roll get it
ha. Is rock and roll up there in the sky, everybody Oh, they're
gonna have to be replaced. And I don't think they'll be able to
get the funding to do it.
No, I think when they have to replace that's gonna be the end
of it. And they're gonna look at the internet model, which is
what we use and
you look at Clear Channel. They're also billions of dollars
in debt. They own most of the terrestrial radio stations
around this country.
Yeah, they bought them all up, they had a great scheme they
bought it was at the beginning, it was great for a while they
bought all the stations up and then they centralize the
programming so they essentially fire everybody and all the
little operations all over the country and put in some central
programs that were semi sent they were more or less
syndicated, but they own the syndication system, right. And
it was gonna go all the stations and it was save everybody a lot
of money. It looked good on paper, and then it was a money
making idea until people started listening and they said This
stinks. Problem
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This stinks. Why am I listening to this?
Just a quick PR before we move on to the
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Oh, did you did you stick it in yet? Have you listened to it?
I'm sorry. Have you listened to what's on
it yet? But I am looking forward to it after today's show. Thank
Miss Mickey for taking it to the post office mailing
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she's got the post office need anything like oh crap, the thing
I promise John Yeah. I don't know if we if we promoted this I
can't remember. But there's a book which is available in in in
print and Kindle. Called no agenda saving America Shut up
slaves by Mr. Tom Kilbride. Did we ever promote that? I can't
really remember. I don't remember
promoting and how did he call us to promote it? Did he send us
emails? You probably did. We never opened them.
No, I'm pretty good at opening my emails. I
just read all my email. Yeah, sure.
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You need sex in a book like this? Needs sex? Yeah, but
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I know I take advantage of this. Really? I'm a Kindle fan. I have
Kindle. But do you have the you got the upgrade of all the books
they will give you which is not all books in the world for free.
Did you get that
as part of prime I
believe Oh, no, no, no, no. No, I
don't know. All I know is I get a me mail once a week saying
here's your free books
on that. No, that's you get that with prime this is Kindle
Unlimited. Oh, no, I did not subscribe to that. Subscribers
read for $3.33 to buy. That's offense. 333 price. All right,
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with some since we're talking about the newsletter, I put a
kind of a snide remark in there. About the Boko Harem Yeah,
girls, yeah saying that he's probably tired of listening to
200 Girls bitching. So and so I so I ended up getting a clip
from from the news, our good, which kind of said the same
thing. Listen to Boko Haram and the girls escaped from the
Atlantic Council and they're discussing Boko Haram
whereabouts. When I'm being told that the girls the release of
the girls which is a priority of Nigerian government and of the
international community will be the the lead off in the talks
that will take place next week in Chad hosted by that country's
president. I presume that the girls if you look at the
situation militarily, operationally have become a
burden to their captors to Wonder Girls while you're
fighting a war, even if you've been scoring some spectacular
successes on the battlefield is a burden so rom would very much
like to get rid of them.
Are you kidding me? All right. All right. It hasn't happened in
too long but I'm giving you a clip of the day for now and that
is that is well worth it. Excellent job, sir. Clinical
well played into it. These are the guys who cut off people's
heads. They shoot people they rape and pillage. Oh no, not 200
School Girls bickering I go and take it anymore. And of course
it's bull crap there are no girls. It was a studio chop job
to begin with. We talked about the background being all wrong
tight shot to crop out the buildings of this so called no
secret place that no one could find. And where as Michelle
Obama hashtag Bring Back Our Girls, I see pictures from
Nigeria with parents saying or I don't know if their parent who
knows it could be bogus, but at least I seen pictures with
people hashtag there are no girls. This is bull crap. It was
just to get the financial advisors the combat troops into
Nigeria, where we have a volatile government who is
stealing billions of dollars worth of oil.
Yes, and can't have that No. And
we're in control here,
the ones that are supposed to steal billions of dollars where
the oil really
Hey, hi can offer cloud guys horning
in on this? Because it just summer, of course,
exchange possibly demand the release and likely of some of
their commanders will capture just to fill in on that. Why if
I asked you why it's happening now and why it might happen.
Now, what's the situation on the ground in terms of relative
strength of strength and weaknesses of Boko Haram and the
government at this point? Well on Boko Haram side in the last
several weeks and months, Boko Haram has successfully carved
out a large territory not only in Borno state, but neighboring
yo bay and out of Mahwah states virtually encircling the capital
of Bordeaux Maiduguri, a city of over a million people not
cutting off entirely but making life rather miserable for the
people there gaining territorial hold and even reportedly,
although it has to be confirmed shooting down a Nigerian Air
Force fighter jet at the end of September.
This is guy talking about
I don't know that's bowl to get some towns around it.
Yeah, we knew what this didn't have here had. I have a link
here cautious optimism over Nigeria's kidnapped girls. I
guess they have some they find a couple of some kind of
ceasefire. The whole thing is it's bullcrap. Like we like we
predicted bull crap. And I know while we're on this, forget
anything else. I just need to say something. Please do not
email us any more about GamerGate Yeah, okay. Now and
I'll tell you why. Because and we've looked at this a couple
times I never shown I it's very difficult sometimes. And both
John and I think we catch ourselves like, Oh, crap, you
know, that was so obvious. I should have looked at that. So
we do train ourselves to look past the obvious to find
something then there might be something behind it. In this
case. Boo hoo gamer boys and girl the media is corrupt girls
think boys are stupid boys and girls are aka whatever. Well, I
got cyber bullied and threatened on Twitter. Get off of Twitter.
You douchebags. If you're so worried about women and games
and gaming, let's shut down porn. Why don't do that
GamerGate porn, just shut it down. Because that's all that
this is. And I know any guy out there who is gaming. Look at
yourself very carefully in the mirror and tell me that after a
couple of hours of Call of Duty of World of Warcraft, you don't
flip over to porn and relieve yourself because that's what
it's all porn. It's all porn. I love you but it's porn. And
that's what it is and get over it already. Who cares? I'm not a
gamer Johnson a game but we have no standing in the community. We
don't know what it's about but everything I can see is oh, it's
it people are the misogyny whatever threatening just stop,
go away. Go back to your game. Go back to your porn and get
over yourself. The media is crap. Hmm. That I summed that up
properly.
Yeah, I think it's close enough. I mean, the point I made when I
somebody tried to get me involved in this was that I
don't have like you said, we don't have standing mean,
meaning we were not in the community to comment on it at
this level at all. And we don't have any way of getting a
standing and we're not as and what's the point when we look at
there are other people that can talk about it, let them talk
about it.
And when they talk about I get the same thing. What are you
talking about? Nothing about someone threatening you on
Twitter will turn off Twitter, and you won't be threatening.
Get off Twitter, you won't have any of these. You're bullying.
Prof you
turn off Twitter. You won't be threatened by tweet. It's that
simple. It might just it might not
come into the door. Exactly.
Now, break through the window. Now something did happen. That I
almost had, in fact, it took me several times until one of our
Dutch listeners sent me this clip. And I replied to him
saying, Man, really? Yeah. And he said something like, you
know, Brahma is a quick charismatic leader, Brahma
Brahma Brahma just said Brahma.
Did you said Brahma like,
I don't. Okay, President Brahma. This might stick.
Yeah, is Barack Obama, Brahma Brahma heard that before you
think I would have?
And I played this clip in there. And I went back from saying,
Yeah, this is such an a dick. And then I played this clip
again, and I played it again. I went, Wait a minute. Listen to
that. The President was at a signing ceremony. And he talked
about how his credit card was declined in a restaurant in New
York, of course, we know was not true.
No, it can't be true. Why would he pull out a credit card and it
but it's a joke.
And so I was initially I'm just like, Ah, what a douche bag. But
listen to the listen to the whole piece. I should mention by
the way. I went to a restaurant up in New York when I was
traveling. My credit card was burned out. I guess I don't use
it. I thought there was fraud.
Fortunately, Michelle has
just hate the heat we hear all
the week. Now what and I listened to this again, and and
I went, Wait a minute. Listen to all these people who are
laughing insincerely. Who are these people? But just this
Listen again? Listen again,
up in New York when I was my credit card was
burned out. I guess I don't use it.
All right. So there's a laugh track?
No, I'm telling you. These are people who are extremely happy.
But they're kind of like, sign it, sign it, sign it, sign it.
Can you tell them the jokes? Can you finish signing? Please
finish the signing? What was the President sign? Now? I took the
time because the sound like people were way too happy. The
President was signing an executive order, John. Oh, and
the executive order is improving the security of consumer
financial transactions seems innocuous enough.
That's hence the the reason for the joke. That's the reason for
the joke, which of course we know is not true. And let me say
we've discussed this before. And this will take you right into
the executive order. The total amount of credit and debit card
fraud in the United States, on an annual basis is about $4
billion, right? The cost to upgrade all American terminals
to the chip and pin system used universally in Europe and in
other places around the world. It would be a multitude. a
multiplier of that. Unless, of course, as a banker, you
couldn't get the president to sign an executive order. Whoa,
what was that?
Somebody took a shot
at Yeah, they missed. Unless of course, you can get the
president to sign an executive order, which does some of the
following things. Allow me let me just assume this for a second
so I can look at it a little bigger. Set this bigger. So go.
Here we go. Improving the security of consumer financial
transactions. Now this is just the executive order. There's
also a fact sheet. Given that identity crimes including credit
debit and other payment card fraud continue to be a risk to
US economic activity and given the economic consequences of
data breaches the United States must take further action to
enhance the security of the data in the financial marketplace.
Government must further strengthen the security of
consumer data encourage the adoption of enhanced safeguards
nationwide, in a manner that protects privacy and
confidentiality while maintaining efficient and
innovative financial system by the authority vested in me as
President, by the constitution and laws United States of
America and in order to improve the security of consumer
financial transactions in both the private and public sectors,
it is hereby ordered as followed. Now, it's a lot of
gobbledygook but secure government payments in order to
better protect citizens doing business with the government,
executive departments and agencies shall as soon as
possible transition payment processing terminals as credit
debit and other payment card to employ enhanced security
features. Ie all government will now use government money to
upgrade their terminals. Do you know what this includes? John?
What what does the government use in all places around the
nation in many, many retail outlets? Where do they use this
which is a de facto part of the government agencies and their
payment processing terminals. That is the EBT the electronic
benefits, benefits.
What's now the Social Security system?
Correct. All done on credit and debit debit cards processed by
JPMorgan Chase and or they were done by Chase. The Secretary of
the Treasury still take necessary steps to ensure that
direct Express prepaid debit cards for administering
government benefits have enhanced security features. And
by January one 2015, the Department of Treasury shall
develop a plan for the replacement of direct Express
prepaid debit cards without enhanced security features.
Other agencies with credit debit and other payment card programs
shall provide the Office of Management and Budget plans for
ensuring that their credit debit and payment cards have been hand
security features, John, this is a bailout of the banks to ensure
that Walmart, Home Depot all the places where EBT cards anything
but McDonald's, I think maybe McDonald's even excessive as
well for certain types of food will be upgraded at the cost of
the government. And that's why everybody's laughing.
So interesting. Yeah, they're laughing because this is a
bonanza, they don't
have to pay for it. And to add insult to injury, section two of
the executive order improve identity theft remediation. Now
I'll read you a bit from the executive order, then I'll read
you from the fact sheet to reduce the burden on concern to
to reduce the burden on consumers who have been victims
of identity theft, including by substantially reducing the
amount of time necessary for a consumer to remediate typical
incidents. By February 15 2015. The Attorney General in
coordination with the Secretary of Homeland Security shall issue
guidance to promote regular submissions as appropriate and
permitted by law by federal law enforcement agencies of
compromised credentials to the national cyber forensics and
training Alliance internet fraud alert systems. So when there is
a a cyber theft, they break in at a retail outlet, all
credentials that have been compromised will be shared with
the government. Nice, that is so wrong.
This is wrong.
And then you look at the fact sheet, who's really this is the
the new by secure initiative. So be on the lookout for that term
and that trademark around preventable how
you know how I buy secure Yeah, cash. Of course,
preventative information sharing the President's Executive Order
further directs expanding information sharing, ensuring
federal investigators ability to regularly report evidence of
stolen financial and other information to companies whose
customers are directly affected. So he'll be sharing stolen
passwords with other companies is completely idiotic.
MasterCard will be providing us customers with free identity
theft, monitoring, and credit resolution support. This is
where supporting credit score transparency, they're now tying
everything together with Citibank helping customers catch
one of the best is catch one of the best early indicators of
identity theft, Citibank and partnership with FICO will begin
making credit scores available for free to its customer to its
consumer card customers. So go out and go get a Citibank card
please. They're promoting Citibank because they'll give
you a free FICO report, which is now going to be as important as
your SATs scores as important I
think it's ridiculous I feel so sorry for everybody coming along
and have put up with this nonsense. Beginning in
January city in partnership with FICO will be making free credit
scores available online to consumers with Citi branded
credit cards. This is the White House promoting Citibank branded
credit cards.
Nobody sees this as as the absolute maximize version of
what you'd call corruption
and total control over your money is by Citi Bank. This
score will be updated monthly and as the same score city card
uses in its lending decisions. So it makes sense. If you want
to get more credit, you should probably have it City credit
card because those guys are making decisions based upon me
having that product. It's it's obscene and of course not
reported anyway. I don't see Cindy candy or Farringdon jerk
Aria, I don't see anyone talking about this. No one. No, I saw I
heard a lot of bankers laughing while Just sign it, just sign it
by executive order. All right, complete bailout.
This is the this is you get a point for this one. Thank you.
This will be the in fact all the stuff as interesting as it is
this particular little thing because you were, I don't know
obsessing on these guys laughing. He has fun and then is
led to this discovery is outrageous. Well, I
believe. So Raj, I believe that, of course, this is not true. I
believe so and gave the president the joke. So the joke
the joke has been reported. The joke has got legs. But no one is
reporting on what the joke was distracting from the joke was
distracting from these billions of dollars, I believe it will be
between eight and $10 billion. That's just the estimate. It'll
probably be double that because now it's government money. Who
gives a crap? Double Bill overbill. To implement this, for
every single electronic benefits card, the EBTs mean, how many?
How many of these cotton wallets? Let's consult the book
of knowledge. How many EBT cards are in use today? I'm going to
say that's quite a lot. No billions out now. Not billions,
millions? How many EBT cards are in use? Survey says 44 million?
Wow. That's a lot.
Yeah. And it's used everywhere. And everywhere that an agency
and the these are agency approved terminals that they
have at that these places where it's most places, most food
outlets for sure. Take the old electronic benefit transfer. And
they will get at least a subsidy if not a complete overhaul for
free. Because the executive order allows these all agencies
treasury and everyone's involved to make regulations and
appropriate funds to do these types of things. We've seen this
with the climate change. The climate change executive orders
have resulted in billions of dollars on an annual basis for
climate change, research and then vacation so whatever these
people do,
it is raping the American public. Yeah. And it's just
raping the taxpayer. Yeah.
Yeah. So that was, that was Thank you very much everybody
for sending me this clip irritating me with with this
clip, until I finally caught on. And I was surprised by my own
inadequacy. Of not immediately thinking, wow, why is this
taking place? And this is this is what we do. And because of
our global intelligence news network, we're able to do these
things. And also, I don't think a lot if you look at the amount
of commercials for Chase and MasterCard and Visa and American
Express and Citibank, I don't think you'll see a lot of
analysis of this executive order on on commercial news channels
and programs. Now you won't see it anywhere. Let's face it, that
might cut down a little bit of the advertising money or they
might have to do a mate. Good.
There you go. Rape.
No one cares. No one cares. No one cares. And how can we so
easily put that together? Yet? We only have $57 million for
Ebola. You know why? Because it's not true. It's bullcrap.
And there's your fact
I had to get a clip that says you creeped me out with this. So
I have I didn't mean to insult you know, I just find it. No,
you didn't insult me the government just did Yeah. Here's
the the first part of a Viagra commercial with this creepy
woman that I know that there's got to be something you take out
of there maybe with a combine it with something that Kiki? Oh,
yes. I'll try it. Yeah, okay. But this is this disgusting
Viagra commercial that I just find. It just you for one thing
there's a moderately attractive British woman. That's probably
40 If she's a day doing this commercial staring at the camera
using the word like you and your honey, which was that the 70s
and just here just play the beginning of this code. This is
what everyone in the sports world is bitching about they
don't want to see on TV. Oh guys.
Just use As your honey setting is perfect, but then erectile
dysfunction happens again. You know what? Plenty of guys have
this issue not just getting an erection but keeping it or
Viagra helps guys with Edie get and keep erection
right. boner pill?
Well, we know that but what's the point of this woman? Is she
selling it? I mean, I look at her and go Gee, I can see why
you can't keep an erection and you got her around no offense
lady.
It's it's honesty and advertising. It's a boner pill
and instead of talking about Ed or erectile dysfunction now
she's just flat out saying it view are a loser. She's probably
good look, and she's probably sexy.
Is not sexy. No. Well, not to think so.
She's not MILFy in a certain way.
You might you might find her remotely sexy but I find her to
be offensive
of course because yeah, of course it's offensive. But it's
you know, it's selling sex. It's selling you're a loser. Yeah.
Okay, this commercial depreciate you you won't like it either.
No, I don't but I have to say at this point in my life I'm ready
to try some Viagra All right, well
try something
I'm interested what a
heart attack
that's what I'm thinking that it will be it will not be a
pleasant pleasurable experience. No
no I do most guys really like you know I will be the guy that
has the four
hour erection god I can't do the show just yet. There's no blood
in my brain.
So I went back and got some old clips from five, four or five
years ago from our own show now back to then I realized that
things have gotten worse even though the unemployment is going
down and all the rest even though we know that it hasn't
really bull crap. Yeah, exactly. I guess there was a here's that
I got this this clip. This is the food bank. News story that
has to or it's a hint at this is a commercial of some sort. Force
something that we don't even have commercials for anymore
because everyone's gone. We've gone from this what you're gonna
play which is the food bank, commercial, Food Bank clip.
We've gone from this, which is bad enough depression food to
mac and cheese. Hello. Did you try a home cooked meal was yummy
Hamburger Helper. Fantastically tasty. That's good. Hamburger
Helper.
One pound one pan. Tasty.
In America, one in six people struggle with not having enough
food. That's why I've teamed up with Feeding America and
Hamburger Helper. When you buy Hamburger Helper you can help
Feeding America deliver a meal to a local food bank. Visit this
website to see how you can go
well that's the next obvious. The next obvious step is to help
the food bank with that craft the cardboard and powder.
Their United said mac and cheese dinner
and now there's the glorious restaurant which I have the news
article here. The glorious restaurant is that mainly New
York. They serve only mac and cheese.
It's a mac and cheese only place in Los Angeles too. It may
be it may be it's the chain. And it's all just mac and cheese.
And yeah, the the we're going from the Great Recession to the
actual depression and it is upon us. When you have this lab, it
has different stature. You know mac and cheese is an American
staple of poverty, but it's an American staple.
Yeah, kale.
Vitamin K. Exactly. Or something. So another bill that
I caught that I thought was kind of interesting. Maybe it was
just only a Texas bill. Let me see. What's that? No, no, it's a
bill in the Congress or House of Representatives. Yeah. This is
these notes the Senate Bill 2026
SB 2826 s
dot 2826 strengthening forgiveness for public servants
as I'm sorry,
give me the number again. S dot 2826. And this is the
strengthening forgiveness for public servants act. And this is
a part of the President's push for millennials to get them to
vote obviously. You're 18 You can vote you can keep voting at
SB 2118. Yeah 18 So on now along with your student debt which we
pushed you into and as quickly as possible. We are now going to
amend the Higher Education Act of 1965 to provide for a
percentage of student loan forgiveness for public service
employment
All right. Yeah, I remember this I remember in the start going
through this is Blumenthal,
and and and Ms. Warren This is Pocahontas has
her father's Pocahontas right she had some did yeah, this is
her part of her thing. She'll be bragging About this, and now the
poor kids, look what I did
if you work. So this is about cancellation of your student
loan debt. And if you work as a government employee, I got the
number two, two years of employment 15% of the total debt
will be erased a deal or years of employment 15% of the total
amount due on the eligible on the date the bar commenced
employment. Oh, wow.
Oh, wow. You said Oh, wow. Again.
I shall stop that six years employment as a Fed 20% of your
loan. And it goes up to TV way,
way, way. Wait, you telling me? What was it three years you get
15%. And then six years, it's total of 20 or 20? Off of what's
leftover?
Let me take a look. Hmm,
no, 20 of the total,
I think is 20 20% of the total amount due?
Eight years after the 15 is taken out. That may be I'm not
okay, Nevermind, it's probably too yet to read too much. Notes
for the show. 10 years
up to 30% of the total amount will be erased. So this is
perfect. You're a debt slave from the moment you go in, you
come out a work for the government and will erase your
debt. But they erase it. The way I read it is in the case of a
borrower who complete a completes 10 years of employment
30% of the total amount due on the eligible Federal Direct Loan
on the date the borrower commenced employment. Okay, so
All right. So if whatever you owed when you went into federal
employment 30% of that will be stricken. Not the the interest
over the 10 years that you are in employment. But But yeah,
that's the way I read it.
The whole thing's a scam. And by the way, I'm gonna say it again,
if we had a scam.
Well, besides that, I do say that probably excessively but I
want to remind everyone that during this last Columbus Day,
holiday, indigenous peoples day locally, freeways were cleared
out. And it seems as though there's not this boom that we
have is not a tech boom, but it's a government workers boom
and bankers. Because the highways were clear. Yeah. And
it wasn't, you know, I was thinking, well, it's so many
tech jobs opening up. It's all you know, coming back, you know,
we're out of the depression. And then it take a banker's holiday.
And the next thing you know, the free ones are clear, but
everybody that worked in tech was working. They didn't take
the day off. But we didn't take the day off. We didn't take the
day off.
I was working.
Anyway, so there's too many guys. Yeah, I don't know. Some
point this is going to collapse.
Oh, total Doom you say
and it's going to happen soon.
Our Baron and Tim Tillman sent me a note he says the Obama joke
more than meets the ear. It continued the fallacy that he
has nothing without his wife. His wife's card worked, of
course, because she's smarter, better faster and stronger than
he is.
Now, he always defers to the ladies
at the same time the joke one little further by saying his car
didn't work because he never uses it followed by luckily
Michelle had hers implies that Michelle uses hers all the time
like a typical woman and that's exactly it's a joke that fits
for whatever the audience is one very good deconstruct very good
deconstruction I'll
just write five lines
yeah yeah.
And meanwhile everybody's laughing but we just missed the
whole the whole scammer Rooney that's nice. Oh, well,
well let's play a little let's keep up with Libya get some keep
people up to speed on what's going on in that country which
is falling apart of course as to the one we liberated thanks to
Hillary's whatever they call it, sunrise of Arab sunrise.
Well, it's, let me see
where the clip is. The clip is begins with with the letter,
semi colon.
Yeah, I guess I've noticed the clip here.
I knew you and led initiative in Libya has been announced in
hopes of stopping fighting in the capital Tripoli while
providing humanitarian aid. Meanwhile, in the eastern city
of Benghazi, renegade Libyan general Khalifa Haftar continues
his assault on Splinter militia groups. At least 40 people have
been killed and four days of fighting there. hifter was a
former general under Qaddafi who rebelled against him during
Libya's revolution. Now Haftar has called on locals to take up
arms against Islamist groups, including Onsala sheary, who's
been designated a terrorist organization. Unconfirmed as we
came,
we saw he died.
We killed that sorry son of a bitch. Good work. Oh, it worked
out perfect.
We got the chambers out
well and that was the name and I guess we How was the oil
production
we realized
that's what I'm looking for other things, man it's crazy.
It's all about it's all the same thing Rob allies here verbalize
their
riptape P Oh yeah
see what I find. Oh, I did have a fun little. Our hero Matt
Malley? Not with not the mountain Murray show,
unfortunately, you know, Murray is doing it. They
put the kibosh on that. And she's been an
she has to do appearances on some shows that I think she
still hangs out with Brawl from time to time, but she's, you
know, Jen Psaki is back, you'll recall, Chuck Hagel had this
speech that I played a few bits from begging for money at the
luncheon where no one was paying attention. There was something
he said in there and Matt Lee, hero of the of the awakened, not
due for a long life, I think if he keeps this up, Matt Lee
picked up on the same thing I heard in this. And I'll play
this very quick clip from Chuck Hagel, our Secretary of Defense
of the United States of Gitmo nations threats
from terrorists and insurgents will remain with us for a long
time. But we also must deal with a revision is Russia, with its
modern and capable arming, like NATO's doorstep,
a revisionist Russia, which I like that good title, but with
their army on NATO's doorstep.
Coupled with that Russia's fault.
Well, thank you, you may now have a beer with Matt Lee. So
the State Department with Jen Psaki decided it's a good idea
to bring Rear Admiral John Kirby into the State Department
briefing to talk about Russia and Ukraine. And I think John
Kirby was has never watched has no idea it was not briefed on
Matt Lee. He has certainly never watched the mountain Murray
show. And I found this to be one of the most enjoyable few
minutes of television I've seen in the past month. And I again,
raise my glass and a toast to the AP diplomatic writer and
journalist Matthew Lee
what he meant by calling it revisionist Russia,
yeah, what does that mean? Well, the Secretary yeah, great Hegel.
I think what he's referring to there is that, that there
appears to be in their intentions and their motives. A
call calling back to the glory days of the Soviet Union.
He also used the phrase that phrase that its army, meaning
Russia's army on NATO's doorstep. Why is that? Is? Is it
not logical to look at this and say the reason that the Russian
army is on NATO, the Russian army is at NATO's doorstep is
because NATO has expanded rather than the Russians expanding.
And now you see curvy with all his fruit salad. Oh, crap, who's
this guy? Who led him and where's my Pentagon press corps?
They did Barbara Starr, who just repeats everything I say with
their big head. Oh, no. Who's this guy?
In other words, NATO has moved closer to Russia rather than
Russia moving closer to NATO. Is that not an accurate way to look
at this?
That's the way President Putin probably looks at it. Oh,
oh. Really?
Good. Now, Matt is now that's how you piss off madly. You
don't call him Putin?
The way that we look at it.
You don't you don't think that NATO has expanded eastward
toward Russia NATO has expanded and the expansion the really
good thing for the reason that the Russian army isn't NATO's
doorstep is not the fault of the Russian are not the it's not the
Russian army that's done it. It's NATO has moved closer to
movies here. It wasn't NATO who was ordering, you know, upwards
of 15 battalion tactical groups to within 10 kilometers of the
border with Ukraine, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't a NATO who
put little green men inside Ukraine to
does he realized the absurdity of what he's saying now. Little
Green Men. FUCK are you Are you really an admiral? Little Green
Man, but
it was Ukraine. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't NATO, who put
little green men inside Ukraine to destabilize eastern city.
We all know that was the Kagan's that Ukraine is not a member of
NATO. So unless that's changed,
but the movement by Russia
if NATO is moved east, the reason that the Russian army is
closer or on NATO's doorstep is because NATO mood nominator is
not an anti Russia Alliance. It was a security alliance.
Unfortunately, for 50 years it was an anti Russia Soviet
Alliance. So why do you not understand it? Do you not
understand how can you not even see other Russians who perceive
it as as a threat and the fact that it keeps getting closer to
their border while their troops
are ready for the meltdown? Here comes Kirby's meltdown. The
places
where their troops are you say their troops are and they may
have been in Ukraine and Georgia are not made up.
I don't have I'm not going to pretend to know what goes in
President Putin's mind a Russian military commanders. I mean, I
barely got a history degree at the University of South Florida.
Oh, man. Oh, man. How pathetic is it now?
You're barely got a history degree at the University of
South Florida.
Why is he doing that stupid is a meltdown. This is a meltdown for
a Rear Admiral to say this, this is a mill right
and tell you what I can tell you is that is
Saki laughing uncomfortably in his idiotic joke
goes in President Putin's mind a Russian military commanders. I
mean, I barely got a history degree at the University of
South Florida. When I tell you, what I can tell you is that is
that NATO is a defensive alliance. It remains a defensive
alliance.
But it has moved east, correct. I mean, that's just expanded.
Exactly. It's there's no
reason for anybody to think the expansion is a hostile or
threatening move. And we've been saying that throughout the last
15 years, man,
you're moving, you're moving closer to Russia, you're blaming
the Russians for being close to NATO. That's exactly what
we're blaming the Russians for violating the territorial
integrity of Ukraine and destabilizing the security which
is not a NATO. I see other countries feel threatened. or
NATO members,
other countries feel threatened. Now Matt play along nicely
because other countries feel threatened. And when you know
when NATO feels threatened? No, we all say we you know, we have
to do something about it. Matt, this is not okay. What you're
doing here.
It's really no winning. We don't like to foster a competitive
atmosphere. But we laugh a lot. Now everyone can share a secret
NATO.
Good work, Matt Lee. Of course, I'd never know that stuff. I
don't think he's ever reported because Associated Press won't
let him write about how just how stupid and idiotic and how,
yeah, for 15 years we've been printing in all press. Russia is
coming closer, where? Of course he's right. revisionist Russia.
Fabulous. That was a good one.
I'm looking him up on the Wikipedia now.
He he's really he hasn't done much. He's always well, he
shouldn't be
allowed to do this. Seems to me. Well, he doesn't even seem to
have a wiki page.
Yeah, I think he does. See, I think get through Matthew Lee.
No, not Matthew Lee oak, a Rear Admiral Kirby. Yeah.
Oh, come on. It's rearing its Rear Admiral John Kirby. Oh, I
know what you have to play the jingle otherwise?
You're right. Vicki pays for the Assistant Secretary of Defense
for public affairs. Is that him that that's that's Douglas
Wilson. I guess he mentioned. I mean, they're both little and
Kirby service folks, men for the Secretary of Defense and okay.
So Kirby is like works for the guy who's the Assistant
Secretary of Defense for public affairs that the stooge John
Kirby
grew up in St. Petersburg, Florida. He graduated from the
University of South Florida 85 with a BA in history. Well, I
barely got an education with my bachelor's degree in history.
What an idiot. And he worked part time in the sports
department sniffing jockstraps. I was commissioned in September
86 After completing other can Officer Candidate School that
see he has served aboard the guided missile frigate, the
arbery Fitch as an electrical officer. Hey, Kirby. Plug that
in? Yes, sir. Assistant navigator. Hey, Kirby, hold the
compass and communications officer. Grab my coffee. He's
also served as a public affairs officer aboard the aircraft
carrier USS USS Forrestal.
He is a BS a PR guy. Yeah. Well, he's a crappy one.
He's, for some reason. He's Captain John Kirby here. But the
I don't know. I thought he was a Rear Admiral.
Well, he comes in as Admiral on this too. I think they'd
promoted Emerson. Well, the DoD
website and his bio is a one star I would think he has it
looks like he has one star on it. And he has a goofy smile and
he doesn't know how to do it. Very shouldn't be in this job,
rookie. Big time rookie. Well, if
he did, he didn't. He went to South Florida. He didn't do his
own work now Russia has done his homework on that down that crew
that's always harassing zakian hearth, especially mad rookie
rookie in the way you deal with Matt. Don't call on him. Don't
call on you. Although I think you have to the way they have
some protocol in there because he's always getting called on
first like he
is when he's in the pole position. I
think he's the senior guy
why don't you Oh, sticking with Russia, which might be
interesting, just another. Now this is something I took to the
global intelligence network. Another article that came via
the Netherlands, actually, in the EU. And here is a d w dot d
story. It looked for this one to get legs depending on the bola
etc. But more money for Ukrainian bowl crap, funding
woes delayed new Chernobyl cover. And this is very
interesting story. The casing around the ruined nuclear
reactor at Chernobyl is crumbling, causing a renewed
radioactive contamination risk. Which which is is horrible
because I'm still dying from Fukushima. This will do me in
for sure. A new cover for the site is under construction,
which they're calling a sarcophagus. But the project is
running out of funding. The German Ministry of Environment
senior civil servant has been talking about the new safe
confinement a new protective cover that is to be built over
the stricken reactor 100 meters high 165 meters long built at a
safe distance from the still radioactive ruin. Now, of
course, this is a big project. In fact, the shortfall is
estimated here at 600 million Euros by the end of this year.
So we have to hurry because if we don't contain this well,
obviously Europe will will die. They have so they need to put a
dome over the Chernobyl reactor which most people probably may
not remember is in Ukraine. Always a great reason to get
more money and contractors in Ukraine. So I take this very
story too hot rod sir rod Adams, who is an expert in atomic and
nuclear energy. And I said what do you think? Sir rod, I would
appreciate your thoughts on this article. And he said even if the
existing sarcophagus collapses there is no driving force to
disperse the remaining radioactive material. This is a
make work project that will have no impact on public safety. It
will be a very localized No Trespassing No Trespassing zone
at best. However, it will be sold to the public and I could
you can just wait for it now iodine is going to say we should
get it now John we should get now we should do the no agenda
if we should
and this will add to the Fukushima woes and I'm
predicting you couldn't wait for this it may not come until after
the elections but it will be great fear porn for Europe and
and of course the EU will come up with 600 million euros and
that will go into somebody's pocket who was laughing all the
way to the bank for this bullcrap unnecessary Dome
Dome and it also pushes back anyone who tries to push nuclear
power in any way shape or form I was listening to like had a clip
and it's so bored long and boring I decided not to clip it
of Robert Kennedy Jr. The one with their strange voice Oh yes
yes yes going on and on about how we do we should we actually
get the clip from maybe
I think I think I have the clip Yeah
sounds a lot like he went on and on about how after 911 We should
have thrown up our arms in the air so this is all because of
our dependence on oil we should stop now and that would have
been solved the problem and he goes on and on about how we have
to get off of oil and you know the same old nonsense because
it's a pot yeah we are no economy but okay we'll just you
know this is like food and water for the for the culture but
okay, we'll get off of it. But did it do what it did the same
people will never accept nuclear backyard nukes he says everyone
should have everybody should be their own little power station
to get to know the cells on the roof and wind turbine and do all
this sort of thing when it backyard nuke would power the
whole neighborhood and it was they don't give off any
waste away breeder reactors
little bitty things but no, no, I can't have that.
There's also no pro Profit. This is the big problem, no big
profits for ongoing resources that need to be put into the
power plant. That's why it won't happen. And people are just
scared into believing that this is where I'm I'm I think you and
I are both on the same page. We are true environmentalist. We
think nuclear energy is the safest way to go. India. Yeah.
Is it nuclear energy,
and pollution is no pollution of any sort anymore. I mean, yeah,
if you're gonna go back and look at the, the technologies, that's
the problem, they look at the technologies in the early 50s.
Oh, it's terrible. Yeah, probably back then. It was
pretty slipshod.
Good word. Does, does slipshod come before you run roughshod?
slipshod nuclear energy is the Ebola of energy. It's really
true.
Talking about Ebola. I did get a note from Paula, who's a nurse
or I guess working in one of the hospitals.
Weekly. We got a lot of we got a lot of emails from medical
professionals. This we have a lot
we do. I was just listening to show 660. I work in a hospital
and handled patient blood and bone marrow samples all day. The
hospital I work at is about 15 years old and has a tube system.
The tubes, Mr. Dvorak was correct when he said they like
they have at the bank. It's exactly like that, except these
are designed to carry patient samples. This is to expedite the
samples getting from the patient to the laboratory. If they had
to hand deliver everything it would take take, it would take
forever with couriers clogging up elevators and hallways full
of Ebola patients. This is total bull crap that they are claiming
the tube system is contaminated. All patient samples are handled
as if they are filled with infectious agents. And most of
the time we don't even know if the sample is positive for some
disease, as it would be handled in the same way. If it was I
will point out to you the book of knowledge the case you're
interested in as the universal precaution samples are drawn in
vacuum containers which are nearly indestructible
themselves, double bagged, and then put in sealed shuttles
before they are sent up the tube. There is no reason to
think that any disease would get out of this and start crawling
around the tube system. Allah aliens, and I appreciate you to
bring this up. This show is my bi weekly vaccination against a
Smith month free media. Paula Paul from Puget Sound Hi, Paul.
Sorry.
This was in just thinking the clip that we had. Who was it
that said that this was clearly a tube that it had gotten
contaminated? Yeah, it was
part of the nurse's scam. I just don't remember why they can't
see it's not obvious right here on my clip list. And
not you mentioned the nurses scam, I actually have a clip of
this is on the Thom Hartmann show with a union nurse and her
casually talking about, about the nurses in Texas and all
around the country that don't know what you know, they
apparently don't know what they're doing. I have some
criticism of this album, I'll make my complaint known after
this clip, really
wanted to kind of do everything on the cheap, but they kept
telling the nurses they were ready. They told the public they
were ready to deal with an Ebola patient. And we see the results
they were not ready. And that's kind of what's going along
nationally when we talk to nurses. And did our survey was
that. And now it's 76% of the nurses say that their employer
still has not educated them about Ebola, about what to do,
how to use the clothing, how to use the equipment, and no
ability to train or do any drills.
Absolutely amazing. Deborah Berger, thank you so much for
coming on tonight. And thanks so much for the great work that
your union is doing. Absolutely.
Thank you very much. Thank you amazing.
Well, it seems to me if you're a professional, of any sort nurse
doctor, that at some point you do educate yourself on a lot of
these things. Wouldn't you just passively sit there waiting for
your boss to tell you about how this Ebola thing works? You
don't look it up. You don't read any of the journals? I
would say it is if anything, it is a huge insult to the nursing
profession who of course really are the people who keep people
alive in between the doctor visits. He's a very it's very
early. I need all sorts of training. They're dumb.
They're stupid. Yeah. That is very rude. I agree.
I thought it was insulting.
Well, the New York Times. And this was interesting to me a
Sunday review News Analysis written by Alan foyer, no idea
who he is. And, of course we needed to debunk the Ebola
conspiracy theories. Yeah. And I I have heard this one as well as
the Daily Observer wrote an article and this is an I'm
reading now from the New York Times article, alleging the
virus was not what it seemed a medical disaster but rather a
bio weapon designed by the United States military to
depopulate the planet, not long after accusations appeared
online containing the Federal Center for Disease Control and
Prevention had patented the virus. Well, it is patented by
the US government Yes, and was poised to make a fortune from a
new vaccine and had created with the pharmaceutical industry. So
now that the article has already moved away from the observer now
which is pointing to conspiracy websites. There are even reports
the new world order that classic conspiracy bugbear bugbear
involving global elites engineered Ebola in order to
impose quarantines, travel bans, and eventually martial law. This
is the New York Times version of calling Republicans conspiracy
nut jobs, with the travel ban slipped in there. And while most
of these fears of so theories have so far lingered on the
fringes of the internet, a few stubborn cases have crept into
the mainstream. In the last few weeks, conservative figures like
Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingram have floated the idea that
President Obama had sent aid to Africa, risking American lives
because of his guilt over slavery and colonialism. Just
makes Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingram look like idiots.
Yeah, and they're also going to what?
And then put it right next two days ago, hip hop artists, Chris
Brown took the Twitter announcing to his 13 million
followers, I don't know. But I think this Ebola epidemic, it's
a form of population control. So these are all the operatives and
I will put Rush Limbaugh in the operative camp who will do
whatever he is really where he makes the most money from is
what I believe. And I think the guy's not an honest guy. And now
it's discrediting any other any other version of what is going
on with Ebola. Any other version of this you're more on your
conspiracy theorists and you have no reason to even discuss
this.
Perfect. His guide is writer foyer, you know he is a
generalist he does I was hoping to find out looking at all his
articles looking to see if there's some sort of link
between one and another that would indicate he's like working
for the agency or something like that. But know the story
that I have seen from gotten Gunnies newspapers. Ebola is not
real. The only people who have gotten sick are those who have
received vaccination shots from the Red Cross. And then there's
Oh, there's this picture I was talking about. That's what I
haven't heard you know, here's the chai ball kidnap is a North
northern political propaganda. No girls are missing. These are
all the signs I was talking about
these guys like there's no our show. Who is there. What are you
talking about here? Where are you getting this?
It's a link in the show notes. What is this?
Who wrote this?
Was the original author. I'm just trying to find the original
author. I've seen I've seen the story circulate so it is like
it's kind of a viral thing. Joke joke. Oh, there. Oh Allah.
Oh my goodness. I don't know if I'm going to be able to bake
into the show. No. Go
as we move into our Thank you segment, I have a little thing I
wanted to read from the manual. I lipsmack. From the you'll
recognize these guys is the Nieman lab. Nieman lab. The
Nieman foundation. You mean like aren't they like about isn't an
outfit that analyzes journalism.
We've Yeah, maybe I we've talked about these guys before. Let me
take a look at it. Nieman lab. I think it's from the Nieman
foundation.
Yes. I don't know what that is. But the Nieman Foundation. And
the only reason I bring this up is Joshua Benton. Yeah, the
Nieman
journalism lab pushing the to the future of journalism. Good
luck.
And and I was surprised and I really liked the article. I was
surprised by the amount of examples that were listed in
here that I had not that I did not know about,
by the way. Yes. Before you do that, I just want to say from
their website, the top of those Nieman lab web page. This is
where the future of journalism must must lay lie. BuzzFeed now
has editorial and product people in place for its forthcoming
news app. In big bold type
wrote the article that caught my eye WoW is related like it or
not. native advertising is squarely inside the big news
tent. Oh, yeah. And the first it opens up with there is no need
for advertisements to look like advertisements. If you make them
look like editorial pages, you will attract about 50% more
readers. You mighty you might think that the public would
resent this trick, but there is no evidence to suggest they do
datas they don't know David Ogilvy is the is the person who
said that and Confessions of an advertising man in 1963. So we
all know about the what is happening now we have the the
native advertising is now deeply ingrained and integrated and
ingrained in mainstream news reporting. I just wanted to read
a couple of the examples I was. I was delighted, really, because
this is the end, end of journal end of news journalism. I in
January, New York Times ran its first piece, what's going to be
called native advertising had New York Times Blaze across the
top of the page and had a lot of visual DNA of the Times article,
a headline about millennials in the workplace, about 700 words
of copy, and even the horrific honorific Mr. And Mrs. Of Time
style. But above that headline and 12 point type, there were
the words paid for and posted by Dell, the byline went to a
freelance writer notice, by the way, paid for and posted by
Dell, the byline went to a freelancer, I'm gonna
stop you there, because I want to remind people that there are
now systems in place that we've discussed in great detail in
this show that are you, you sign on to these systems. And there
are editorial holes, the content management system that uses a
content management system and you start to use you shove your
content into this editorial hole, and it gets posted
automatically into the New York Times. Whereas here,
I show my editorial content into your whole
uncalled for and I
know it's the Tourette's. But above the headline and 12 point
type were the words paid for and posted by Dell. The byline went
to a freelance writer with a Dell logo next to her name. The
typography look different from what you'd see on a gale Gollum
Collins column at the bottom. This page was produced by the
advertising department in New York Times in collaboration with
Dell. The news editorial staff with the New York Times had no
role in his preparation. Then march Wall Street Journal
published its first native ads under the rubric of narratives
USA Today joined in May the same month nonprofit Texas Tribune
nonprofit, Texas Tribune, debuted paid placement for op
eds. The Washington Post ran its first native ads last year. Even
the unabashedly liberal Guardian is in this game, running pieces
praising Ben and Jerry's earth friendly treatment of its ice
cream waste products that look a lot like standard stories, but
look a little closer you'll see the byline is the Anglo Dutch
multinational Unilever, Ben and Jerry's corporate parent and the
court and the Guardians substantial living partner. This
is what we have. We were on this very early talking about how
this was going to take place. And it's it's almost it's along
the lines of Nancy Snyderman, the NBC medical CHIEF MEDICAL
CORRESPONDENT who doesn't stay in her quarantine for Ebola
because she knows it's all crap. And she's yet to shed her black
SUV parked outside a restaurant with the engine running while
she was inside grabbing a bite to eat, you know, blatantly
disregarding anything that she had the fear porn that she had
instilled herself. The newspaper news products have no
credibility, zero credibility, it will all become one big
commercial. And already I would say most news products 30% is no
40% is already adverse to advertising. Another 20% is
advertising other entertainment products from the parent
companies. So what do we have now? 60% That maybe 10 or 15%
will ultimately be any kind of news and it won't be much more
than sports.
Exactly, exactly.
And everybody has just missed the whole idea that you don't
need a network you don't even Matt Diplo AP. Really, I thought
if he went value for value, of course he of course, he would
never get back into the State Department press briefings.
That's a problem. Right? Unless it be part of the system. But if
if he could be in there as as an independent he wouldn't be, he
would be unbelievable. So we have to be his independent arm
for right now. Yeah, we have to help him propagate his message.
But the only way to do it fairly is to support people who try to
bring you uncorrupted information. And we're not
reporting on news. We're we're analyzing whatever we can. And I
think that we're pointing
out the discrepancies, the lies, the cheating, the underreported
stuff like the Obama signing of that executive order. Nobody's
reporting this, but it's what's and so we essentially we are
reporting the news in in a way that the media is not doing
which is reading the executive order. This is reporting,
reading the executive order and then telling the public what it
says. So that's actually your original reporting since nobody
else has done that and and more we do original reporting true.
And more egregious, is the pundits and experts are all in
on the game. Everyone who gets called in, whether they're
talking to them for print article or for a hit as they
call it on television, all right, all compromise it to Jay
Carney who was at the White House three months before he
showed up as a special correspondent for CNN is is
outrageous. And every military expert,
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We're going to feed him a burger. You keep feeding him.
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And the significance of this
No, I saw this this old clips and why did I clip this?
I don't remember this pleading being played originally on the
show
probably was never played is now So first time from five years
ago,
John, you're the one kind of keeping track of the Hillary
2016 campaign. How's that going? Who are we? Who are we looking
at here?
Of course, I'm sticking with my more recent theses, which is
that she doesn't want to run, but she wants to get the money
so she can take the money and run as it were. So it's not
running but running with the money. All right. And this is
seems to be shaping up mice, it seems to be working out fine.
She's it was the last time she's not getting the kind of press
that she would like if she was actually running. She's gonna
have to announce after the midterms. Right. Which I also
think you're gonna be disappointed for the
Republicans? Yes. Yeah. You You have mentioned this. And I think
that she's working on some new some ways to so she's got a
summary in her own campaign. I think she's getting old and
tired. I think she just doesn't want to do it.
I think no matter who is is trying to get into the race. I
think everyone is trying to discredit other guys. And yeah,
the number one guy to to knock out of the race, although it is
kind of funny to have him around is Vice President Joe Biden. And
I feel sorry for the guy because they really pulled a fast one on
him this time. But that's what that's how goes Joe,
before year old Hunter Biden, Vice President Joe Biden's
youngest son was discharged from the Navy Reserve after testing
positive for cocaine.
This is a guy who runs the financial company in Ukraine.
He's part of that hole
out Yeah. And coked up. I mean, this is the goal, the cheapest
way and the worst way to have to discredit somebody why you can't
even manage your own kid
hunting was the country shinned in May
2013. It's a lot. It's a long piece too. You want to hear a
little bit
and assigned a coveted position as a public affairs officer in
Norfolk, Virginia. But US officials confirm the very next
month after reporting to his unit, Biden was given a routine
drug test which he failed. Biden's brief military career
ended with this statement. It was the honor of my life to
serve in the US Navy. And I deeply regret and I'm
embarrassed that my actions led to my administrative discharge.
Hunter Biden comes from a proud military family
proud military family who can't keep their kids in line. His
older brother Bo is a major in the Delaware Army National Guard
watch Wow, you'll be on crack. For you know it and served
a year in Iraq. Military service has been a big part of the Biden
family's public platform.
Now watch him take it to Joe and really screw up.
I'm looking forward to standing with our son Hunter. When he is
commissioned as an ensign in the United States Navy. He follows
in the footsteps of tulip his grandfather's who have also
served in a smoke crack navy. A source familiar with
Grandpa Joe Biden.
On the weed Biden's case confirms Biden received two
waivers to join a special Navy Reserve Program. They even got
him
in on a special waiver. This is horrible. Rick page, the
cut off is 43 must
have been pretty funny and energetic and productive too.
But Biden was 43 when he applied. The source says his
strong academic record pushed him through. The Vice President
joked about his son's timing unknowingly. Just a month before
Hunter was discharged. This
is where they really stick it to them. This this is such a low
blow.
We have a lot of bad judgment in my family. My
poor guy so unfair. It's really
frightening. unknowingly. Just a month before Hunter was
discharged.
We have a lot of bad judgment in my family. My my son who's over
40 Just join the United States Navy is about to be sworn in as
an officer.
He sounds drunk himself right there
are just as addictive as cocaine. Poor Joe. That's mean.
Yeah, he's
out the one that they're bringing out by they're trying
to groom because I think a lot of people don't like the concept
of Elizabeth Warren getting the you know, the billing because we
have to have a woman next. And so there there's a huge attempt
to get Andrew Cuomo.
Really? Yeah. And he's what is he Republican Democrat. What
does he know? He's
a Democrat. He's there's a long line of Democrats from Governor
of New York, Andrew, Andrew Cuomo. And he is showing up all
over the place and he was recently on the Charlie Rose.
Show or he was on the end. Maybe it was a today's show and he was
just being interviewed and roses all over me all your great
because it's a somebody whoever handles roses humanize his
handling bringing this guy in. And is that's also there's a
mate good involved because his dad whoever the other Cuomo,
do we have a clip of Mario Cuomo of a club club? Do you have a
club?
No, Mario? No, I'm just giving you the Okay. I have a long,
boring clip. Mario Cuomo was going to be run for president.
He was kind of designated president. That's when Bill
Clinton slipped in and beat George HW Bush because they call
him a big data, that race thing and who what standing president
that's gotten us into a war. The Kuwait first Kuwait war with
Iraq? How could he get voted out? I'll run after he's done.
And Clinton wisely ran and then took basically took Mario Cuomo
completely out of the political picture. And I think they owe
the family of faith.
Interesting, well, that could work. But no, actually he
couldn't work. It has to be a woman. There's no There's no
qualms about it has to be a woman. That's That's what,
that's what we need it now tell me? Was there not a time, I
believe in history. Now I barely got a degree from the University
of Southern South Florida. So I really don't know. But was there
not a time maybe Cleopatra's age, when women ran the show?
Here's how I understand the history of it. And I and I need
to do some research, where women ran the show, they were in
charge of everything. And the only thing men did was protect
them carry, you know, carry heavy stuff. And but the men
were allowed to service any woman that that they wanted, or
any woman that wanted servicing, and the men were just kind of
kept dumb and ate around and screwed around. And and we like
your fantasy. Yes. I think this would be a very good way to do
it.
Yes, that would be something you'd think would be a great,
very good way to do they're kind of doing that now it because the
real president is Valerie Jarrett. Yeah. And I think
there's some of that going
on. So this is not true. This never happened within the
Cleopatra. I'm gonna look this up. I have a feeling.
Yeah, well, I think it's the real history. Well, I got a good
book for you read Gibbons, rise and fall of the Roman Empire.
That's what I would read and then do it. You know, before the
next show. A couple of volumes.
Will there be a test? Will there be a test? Yeah,
there'll be a test that definitely, definitely
definitely. For our anyway, I think you're right, but the
Elizabeth Warren's gonna have a work cut out for if they if the
Democrat party decides that they're going to push Andrew
Cuomo. Yeah. And I think what it is I think there's fear that
Elizabeth Warren could be beaten by a Republican. I don't think
so. Personally, I don't see any Republican beating Elizabeth
Warren. I think there's more likelihood that a Republican
could be Andrew or Andrew Cuomo. But Cuomo is good looking guy,
big smile. Seems as sharp you know, he's a good good candidate
has
to be a woman, John, it has to be a woman.
This Elizabeth Warren looks like everybody's grandma. She's Got
You know, there's issues with her and she had Hillary she's, I
think Hillary or hurt herself with that. Fall. Fall just seems
dumb. She's not her sharp old self.
I have two parting clips from the snow job department. I think
I'll play our Gitmo nation East clip first. This is a snippet of
reporting from the BBC on a recent conversation in
I believe parliament.
The secretary of the Home Secretary Theresa May. Who is
that is pretty much the Department of Homeland Security
Secretary.
She's in charge of the whole for the Department of State
State I'm sorry, but not really the Foreign Affairs she doesn't
do foreign affairs that would be
the Foreign Affairs that'd be they wouldn't know the Home
Secretary is like department of steak and then there's another
Why don't we look it up for a second I see MC sick crip home
salary similar it's important to know is what we've been
used to be was that the ball to get cue ball was good for what
was he was
You mean the what was his name again?
I get your cue ball is what we call protect
our freedoms protect our freedoms. That guy.
Home Secretary
cool well, it was this guy if we slow him down about 5% That's
just what doesn't need his name on those. I can't find the
jingle. Hey, well, let's
see. Hey, hey, egg, right? Hey vague.
I'll play Hey, well, you look up with the Home Secretary does.
intelligence work takes place within a strong legal framework.
We operate under the rule of law and are accountable for it. In
southern countries secret intelligence is used to control
their people in our Was it only exists to protect the freedoms
and protect the free bearing and protect the freedoms?
Well to jump to that, of course, is that he was never the Home
Secretary. He was a foreign minister of foreign affairs. He
was the foreign secretary. So I thought, well, no wait. But he
was hey, what's his first name? William. William Hague. Okay.
Let me get that. So we get this straight before we start yakking
about it.
Okay. The Home Secretary is one of the United Kingdom's for
great offices of state. As Minister in charge of the home
office. The Home Secretary is responsible for the internal
affairs of England and Wales. And for immigration and
citizenship for the whole of the UK. He was the right head was
the foreign secretary remit of the home office also includes
policing in England and Wales and matters of national security
as a security service, and my five is directly accountable to
the Home Secretary, Spy secretary, Spy secretary. The
current job, it's a great job. Yeah, you
get to use the resources of MI five. See, you know I got this
parking ticket.
Hear is Theresa May in an unbelievable
statement
and non analysis by the BBC in this particular piece. And I
we've many times said that Gitmo nation east of the United
Kingdom's is, is so obviously a beta test for the rest of the
world. I'm sorry to report, you are beyond repair. When you hear
this
home secretary has defended the right of the security and
intelligence agencies like GCHQ to collect information about
phone call records, emails and other internet activity on a
large scale, what's known as bulk data collection, Theresa
May was giving evidence to parliament's Intelligence and
Security Committee, and she said the ability to collect large
amounts of information was hugely important.
We cannot emphasize enough that the collection of bulk data is
not mass surveillance.
Let me just emphasize me get this straight. Wow, the
collection of bulk data is not mass surveillance.
What is it then?
Well, precisely
because what happens is this targeted process, which means
that this is not about just some sort of mass look at everybody's
data, most of the data will not be looked at at all
will have it we just won't look at it.
Touched won't be touched former cabinet minister and
conservative Michael ankrum. Now Lord Lucien, put to the Home
Secretary concerns raised with the committee. Several witnesses
have suggested to us the bulk collection of sorts and invasion
of privacy.
And this is what of course we know the metadata by itself. And
recall the metadata also includes every website you've
been to, this is part of what they're collecting.
Mrs. Mae did not accept that the intelligence agencies needed
access to that information. I do not accept that
think the collection of bulk data itself in an abstract form
is necessarily what government should be about what government
should be about is saying what where do we need to access to
have a haystack in order to be able to access the needle that
we need to have a haystack in order to access the needle hole
or Well anybody who's necessary
to keep people safe?
Theresa May said that the government didn't need to think
about what information was made public to give people confidence
in the way the intelligence agencies were working.
citizens of the United Kingdom resume normal activity as well
pay no attention to the haystack
we don't have it quite that bad.
But that's your right I think I've always thought you were
right about this thesis. It will they do it see what the public
reaction is they go nobody seems to care. Let's try it in the
United States. What happens?
No Russell Brand goes out.
They've kind of done the same they haven't said Ben so blunt
and very blunt about
I need to say something Russell Brand is a distraction. I keep
getting emails row he seems to be right on message. He's a
distraction. He's an incoherent distraction. He's distracting
you from the true issues with his bravery, of trying to bust
into Fox News to see Sean Hannity Are you kidding me? Who
gives a crap? Distraction? I don't believe Russell, what? He
was easily treated. He tried to walk into Fox, the broadcast
building in New York with a camera. I'm here to see Sean
Hannity, of course he gets kicked out. Well,
of course he gets kicked that anybody would. And he knows
that that's why he does it to be a distraction. So people are
looking at his message Of course he has a message that is not not
he got a new movie or something coming. Oh, no, no, I don't
think so. I'm sure he means well, but he's being you. It's
like Alex Jones going on Piers Morgan. And it just because he
will just use it as the moron who's who wants guns. Doesn't
matter. The guy who I'm the guy I'm keeping a very sharp eye on
is James Comey.
Comey,
this is our new director of the FBI. This is a 10 year position.
Unless you're Robert Gates, and then you get to go for 12 years
because you didn't know where all the bodies are buried from.
They had the Yeah, that just said it took that long to erase
his hard disk. Two extra years. And Comey
did another speech. Let me see. Where was he? You're
beating me up on this? This is good. I should be following
Comey closer to we've already decided to he's the guy to
watch. Yeah,
let me just see where this was this particular this particular
speech. And I found it, it's anti spam, but I found it at the
Brookings Institution. Well, that makes sense, doesn't it?
This is where policy is set. I pulled out the whole relevant
pieces a couple minutes. If you get bored, please tell me
immediately I doubt you will. We may have to stop to discuss here
and there is the last clip I have James Comey, Director of
the FBI on encryption.
The issue is whether companies not subject currently to Kalia
should be required to build lawful intercept capabilities.
Now,
we know what Kalia is, right? This is the this is the
directive. That is Oh, man. Come on. John, help me out here.
I don't know what it is. You do Kalia? It's let's look it up.
She's looking ca
L E A it's the is the communications regulation about
ah I'm glad I asked.
c a l e a comm now.
Yes, calm is Li Nia halation
a community it can no communication for Law
Enforcement Act.
There you go. And you'll recall they tried to change that a
couple years ago, and then that that didn't happen. This was way
before Snowden. And
this is funny because this did talk about this thing. Let me
just read things from this wiki. The United States wiretapping
law passed in 1994 during the presidency of Bill Clinton's
Kalia, think first crap crapped out came up, because I remember
talking to the I was doing a show then called either real
computing or software hard talking on public radio. And I
had an FBI guy on discussing this and there was the same
pitch. You know, we need this because all the pitch the FBI
has, and I've said it before, is a pitch for laziness.
Yes, you're gonna have to do everything we have to be in the
field. They want to follow it do not have to do any actual work.
Yeah, you're not to put
anybody in there or really have to do any work. You just listen
to it on every one.
No, Kalia is 20 years old. It was enacted on October 25 1994.
And it requires a telecommunications,
telecommunications carrier as defined by the Act to ensure
that equipment facilities or services that allow customer or
subscriber to originate terminate or direct
communications enable law enforcement officials to conduct
electronic surveillance pursuant to court order, or other lawful
authorization. I think it was Kalia. They tried to update to
do the SOPA stuff. And that's why I got shouted down. Yeah, I
think I recall, there was like some sneaky change to the act
that got overturned. So this guy is still operating on what's
been
going on forever this attempt. But it's
changed a little bit. And some of the words he uses are
interesting to
me. The issue is whether companies not subject currently
to Kalia should be required to build lawful intercept
capabilities for law enforcement. That to be clear,
we are not seeking to expand our authority to intercept
communications. We are struggling to keep up with
changing technology and to maintain our ability to actually
collect the communications we are authorized to collect. And
if the challenges of real time data interception threatened to
leave us in the dark encryption threatens to lead us all to a
very, very dark place.
A very, very dark place, John, encryption a very dark place
because we're Lord Comey needs to be able to access and it's
ano do.
Here's what I mean by that. Tell me encryption is nothing new.
No. But the challenge to law enforcement and national
security officials is markedly worse, with recent default
encryption settings, and encrypted devices and networks
all in the name of increased security and privacy.
Yes, this very good for the citizens of the world to have
increased security and privacy away from your prying eyes You
scum.
For example, with Apple's new operating system.
Ooh calling out the Apples Hello, Tim Collins, or Steve
Cook, whatever your name is, and
the information stored on many iPhones and other apple devices
will be encrypted by default. Okay.
Pay attention to what he says next what Apple said.
Surely after Apple's announcement, Google announced
plans to follow suit with its Android operating system. This
means that the companies themselves will not be able to
unlock phones, laptops, and tablets to reveal photos or
documents, or email. Yeah,
because I bought the product. It's my product. It's my
possession. I own the product, although that's probably dubious
at best, depending on all the you warning and licensing crap
that you apparently signed when you use it. But yeah, I bought
the product. Apple has no right to screw with my product. Oh,
wait, they can put a YouTube CD on it. But okay. Yeah. What's
wrong with you call me that they don't have they can't do
anything after I bought a product. Oh,
for store texts or recordings in those dark in those instruments?
Look, both companies are run by good people who care deeply
about public safety and national security. I know that. And
they're responding to a market demand that they perceive, oh,
it's
a marketing. It's just market demand.
But the place that this is leading us is one that I suggest
we should not go without careful thought and debate as a country.
Okay. At the outset, the good folks at Apple say something
that's reasonable. Now,
the good folks at Apple say something that's reasonable. I'm
now interested, apple.
So the director of the FBI is saying that Apple said this to
him,
which is, look, it's not that big a deal, because law
enforcement can still get the data from the cloud, because
folks are going to backup their devices to the cloud.
I have heard this argument, but I've never heard an apple person
say this. Have you? Have you heard a no person say this?
No, no, I've never heard actually haven't heard too many
people that are representing money making Corporation say
anything like that? Well,
the director wants to worry about
it's reasonable, which is, look, it's not that big a deal.
Because law enforcement can still get the data from the
cloud, because folks are going to backup their devices to the
cloud and the FBI was lawful authority can still access the
cloud. But here's the problem with that. uploading to the
cloud doesn't include all of the store data on the bad guys
phone.
I'd like to stop this for a moment. I would like the
director of FBI to stop his blatant sexism. Not all
criminals are guys. And he continuously talks about bad
guys bad guys bad guys. Why is it only guys who do this? Or are
women never never bad? I take issue with that.
You should, which has the potential creative black hole in
and of itself a black hole and second black hole if the bad
guys don't backup their phones routinely. Or if they Hey, bad
guy, have
you backup your iPhone regularly? Because you know, a
bad guy should have a whole campaign.
And by the way, there is a JC buzzkill Jr pointed this out to
me I hadn't clicked the if you go into your settings for
Android phones, they are backing up the damn phone constantly to
the cloud by default. By default, you have to go in there
and click on that little thing and get it off.
And every upgrade you do. It's always back on by default, all
my all my documents in my iPod Touch. All of a sudden we're up
to the cloud. And then you say, I don't want them anymore. It
says this will delete everything on the cloud. But it doesn't
delete everything on your phone. Yeah, it's still in the cloud.
Yeah. Liars in and of itself. But second, if the bad guys
don't backup their phones routinely, or if they opt out of
uploading to the cloud, the data will only be found on the
encrypted devices themselves. Oh, no. And it's the people most
worried about what's on the device, who will be most likely
to avoid the cloud.
Because if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing
to worry about. You should just open everything up. You don't
need encryption. If you're not breaking the law.
Just put cameras in your house while you're at it
to make sure that law enforcement cannot access
incriminating data. Yeah,
this is called privacy and we have constitutional rights for
this.
Encryption just isn't a technical feature. It's part of
a marketing strategy.
It's a marketing strategy job. It's just marketing. We can do
away with marketing. It's not it's not about your your rights.
It's about marketing,
but it will have very serious consequences for law enforcement
and national security agencies at all levels. Yeah, you'll have
to
do some work and get off your lazy ass. You have to go follow
somebody you know, sleuthing. Like the Hardy Boys,
sophisticated criminals will come to count on these means of
evading detection.
Who What are they going to do with these sophisticated
criminals? What are they doing? Are they drug dealers
sophisticated with the need to access the phone. What Who are
these sophisticated criminal? What exactly is the danger? What
are you terrorists, it's got to be something a bola.
It's the equivalent of a closet that can't be opened a safe
deposit box that can't be opened a safe that can't ever be
cracked. Yeah. And my question to facilitate this conversation
is at what cost? Me trust. Free? No, there's
a huge cost. With the bad guys out there,
I have to correct some missing impressions that I think are
connected to this. The first is that folks say, folks, so you're
still gonna have access to metadata, which includes
telephone records and location information, see
how it connects to what Theresa May was saying. Here he's
talking about we have to have the haystack to find the needle.
She's also saying a metadata is not enough. We need to be able
to go in and read down when when you're a
bad guy. Yeah, yeah. Let's let's say that I am on this show. And
this show is a political show about Republicans, anti or Pro.
I know, we're Republican pro Republicans unlikely to ever
happen. And But secretly, I am a Democrat. I can imagine somebody
like Biden, or Bill O'Reilly being like this
now. Or Jon Stewart is probably a Republican secretly.
And I am funneling money, you know, quite a bit of it to the
Democrat Party, because I want them to get elected, even though
I'm doing this Republican show. Well, political operatives that
happen to be running the show. And the government can find this
out quite easily by spying on me. And that's what their whole
thing is about. And they also might want to blackmail me over
some website I accidentally visited or maybe I purposely
visited this all about blackmail,
or maybe the government I think it would go it would be a
different way. Where they know the curry is he's, he's off. We
can't the guy has Tourette's. We can't even talk to the guy at
all. You can't even keep attention for five seconds.
We've got to change the tone of the show through Dvorak. Hey,
you remember that girl in LA who works for EA? Yeah, we have
pictures. Hey, Devora que me wanna help curry understand
things a little better?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. stored with the telecommunications carriers.
And that is absolutely true. But Metis truths not provide the
content of any communication. No, it's incomplete information.
You said when? What happened and we don't need that? What
happened? We never went, Oh, look at that. We don't need that
now the FBI stooges and you're saying we need to have that this
is an outrage, an outrage almost done with Comey here
with the telecommunications carriers. And that is absolutely
true. But metadata does not provide the content of any
communication. It's incomplete information. And even that is
difficult to access when time is of the essence. I wish we had
time in our work. Especially when lives are on the line we
usually don't. There is a misconception that building a
lawful intercept solution is all about building a backdoor. One
that foreign adversaries or hackers could exploit.
What could we possibly come up with? That is less scary than a
backdoor? If you were the director of the FBI advisor
percent less scary. Yeah. Than a backdoor. Yeah. I don't have any
idea. backdoors don't seem that scary to me. He's,
oh, come on, man. This is for the sheeple.
What would you tell people it would be a? I don't know. I'm
sure he's got better ideas than I do. When it comes to this sort
of propaganda. What is it
that also is not true? We are not seeking a backdoor approach.
We want to use the front door clarity and transparency.
Transparency with Claire Hello.
I'm here at the front door of your IBO and I want to come in
I'm very transparent and I have clarity about it all in the
hello I'm in the front door not a backdoor front door I'm on at
your back door man and the front door man. We
want clear guidance provided by law. We are completely
comfortable with court orders and legal process front doors
that provide us the evidence and information we need to
investigate crime and prevent attacks.
Number one front door is and always will be Facebook. The
director of the FBI has an office in Facebook, in the in on
the campus. That is your number one place where your metadata
and your conversations are being shared with the government that
is the front door. Right their front door no encryption to you
notice, Facebook hasn't come out and said yes, we're going to
encrypt everything. Interesting how they haven't done that. Why
would they lose all their business?
And nobody cares. All these idiot Facebook users I don't
care. Did you mention about it?
Did you hear about the Zuckerberg emails? that came up
again or the I FM's No, just here it is. This is this
happened a while ago, but I think the story resurfaced. I'm
not sure why maybe he needs to be put back in his place
Business Insider embarrassing and damaging. Zuckerberg is
confirmed by Zuckerberg. And they'll actually came in as the
New Yorker quoted to have of these quotes from Zuckerberg
back in the night. My browser, of course, is frozen back in his
earlier days, and I will read them to you.
After all, the ads are clicked away.
Friend, so have you decided what you're going to do about the
websites? Let me see what this context is outlining how he was
planning to deal with Harvard Connect, which was a competing
system to his the, to the Facebook, back in Harvard
friend. So you've decided what you're going to do about the
websites, Zuck? Yeah, I'm going to fuck them. Probably in the
year, I mean, ear in another exchange, Zuck. Yeah, so if you
ever need info about anyone at Harvard, just ask. I have over
4000 emails, pictures, addresses what says friend, how do you
manage that one Zuck people just admitted it? I don't know why
they trust me dumb Fox. That's the quote of the year that is
that is Zuckerberg. That is the guy who was running Facebook.
That is the guy who is protecting your data. Everybody
is the
dumb, dumb fucks
that is your Facebook user. That's in a nutshell dumbfuck
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It's not worth the effort. It really isn't.
And are you doing any phone shows not doing
anything today but cooking clean up a little bit cook?
I wish I wish I wish I was there for the cooking.
Well, it's gonna be legal at barbecued leg of lamb. Yummy.
Very nice. I am here in FEMA Region six withering away from
Ebola as I die and hopefully I'll be here for the next
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