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a plumber perfect. Adam curry John C. Dvorak. Sunday July
20 2014, time for your gizmo nation media assassination
episode six three. This is no agenda creating colossal
calculus from the South Austin safe house and FEMA Region six
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everybody. I'm Adam curry
and from the more important FEMA Region nine otherwise known as
Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak Buzzkill.
No is more important.
I said, so,
um, you know, I get so pissed you do this move, you know, and
you start on packing everything and then I have this whole plan
to divest of a lot of things which is working out fine. So I
have a lot of boxes that I'm going to either keep closed and
never open up again and get rid of. Okay, now I have to open up
every single one because I can't find my instruments.
Just reach down.
It was bad when you do you remember the giant nail clippers
one of the one of our producer kids made for us? Like, like,
like 1212 inches long? Like a huge nail clipper. Don't you
remember that? No, I found that. But my slide whistle. No.
I find that you lost your slide whistle and the end, my boy my
bullhorn and like, are so big. If you can't find that you can't
find any and my orchestral kazoo. Oh, the kazoo? Who played
in the last show?
No, no, I haven't played it. I have not played with my kazoo
since we've been here. Bad is bad, as bad as bad.
Anyway, well, it can happen you get well, it's your rain stick.
Now that you mentioned no idea where the rains thing is
probably with the kazoo.
You'd think you'd keep all the musical instruments for the show
in one
box. Yes. And now I don't know where it is. It's this
guy. You did you use a felt tip pen trick? Where you actually
right on the outside?
Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, then so I thought it would be in
knickknacks.
These are important tools.
You know, I thought it would be in the box that's labeled to
have it right here. Studio photos, awards, etc.
Well, that's an empty box.
Nine photos. I have one award. Remember one of our producers
gave us an award.
Oh, yes. I have that descend with the mantle
from the from the trophy store. From the trophy
store. Hey, you know, whatever works. All these things are
bullcrap. Anyway, you might as well just get somebody give you
one.
Well, it's finally happened. John, wait,
if you think you're gonna start the show, I'm not gonna allow
it. Not that I'm a dictator. We have which show after show after
show. I keep writing down. Oh,
no, we're not gonna talk about EBS. Which really you want to
talk about it now right now? Can we do that before?
We'll skip it we'll skip it for now. But I want to talk about it
for the show's over.
All right, I'll ask the human resources in the chat room to
remind us to talk about PBS and NPR it's both I'm sure they will
do that.
I can't remember what it was about the I do it they will okay
good good. Fine. Now you can go on
well I was gonna say that it's finally happened what the media
is certainly in the United States has finally broken
through to all levels of civilization
I don't know if the payoff I know this is some I
don't think the payoff is gonna be good enough when they finally
infiltrated the young minds the children and now everybody knows
all kids for the kids know I love this kid
Mickey just put a box in front of the door hold on
does she does she put the box in the floor and then push it
towards you with the stick?
Know where their toe where their toe? nudge it forward a little
bit but I don't think the I don't think the instruments are
in there. I do see other important things. Like what?
Like wires?
Oh, like those important wires
and a manual. I see a manual on top. Okay, I'll actually tell
you what the manual says does.
I come?
No, it's it's a it's a printout of the Unabomber manifesto.
I can't was in handy. You should keep it by your bedside.
Oh, man. Well, I think we both probably did a lot of work. We
have not spoken obviously since Thursday.
You know, I didn't I knew you were gonna get it wasn't good no
matter what I my work
was okay. Yes, you just have a
lot of for bat, you know, like short background stuff stuff.
I'm curious about contradictions intros to your piece, whatever
you're gonna say. And I have my thoughts on the on the matter
which are, you know, pretty mundane, it
seems to me. Yeah. And what's interesting is that we're
talking about MH, yeah, we of course, we're talking about the
downing of Malaysian flight 17. You have the downing from
Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur as the the world well, there are two
worlds that base the three worlds that basically exploded
around me one, of course, is just the, the the media world in
general as we know it, which is every channel everywhere. The
second one is, of course, the Netherlands, this being a
150 859 Dutch people so obviously have some unique
insight into the feelings there. And and what actions the
government are or not taking. And then of course, there's the
conspiratorial angle. And what I always find what I mean, I used
to really be into it, and I still can do it, I think I can
do it very well. But the it's now it's just a little upsetting
because of the waste of time is how did it really happen? Who
really did it? And that really, in this case? I wish more people
saw that doesn't matter. That's just that is not that it's fun
to figure it out. And I think because of the outstanding
people who are that are producing audiences comprised of
I think I have a pretty good idea of how this actually took
place and what happened. But it's like, that seems to be the
only thing that people are, are interested in. And what the if
you look at the we actually talked about that, a galleon
dialectic of problem, reaction solution, you know,
well, if you're gonna go in that direction, I'm gonna throw
another thing into the mix, which is the anecdotal material
I talked about a couple of shows ago, where if you put a bunch of
people in front of an audience, and you show them a picture of
something, and you take another group and show them a picture of
something else, then you show a kind of a combined picture. The
people who saw the print the, they're predisposed to see
something they just saw. So in this case, as we've been
hammering Putin, for one thing or another, everybody's
predisposed. Everybody's predisposed both the media and
the public. And, of course, the government's in charge of making
this work the Newlands of the world to Nudelman is it? Well,
not just what you see, you see what you're you've been
programmed to see. So everybody's seeing it. Yes,
exactly. And I don't think he's got anything to do with the
dialectic or anything fancier than that. It's just
it's the the dialectic is problem, reaction solution.
That's the Nudelman. So you're talking about so let's just look
at the at the overall issue before I before Thursday, we
essentially had a Ukraine a situation where let us remember
that the United States put a a government into into the into
Ukraine. And we have just like, we have proof of what's the term
Russian pro Russian separatists? I have to get it right. pro
Russian separatists, of course, before Ukraine exploded when we
had the Maidan and the sharpshooters and all that crap
going down we had our very own Assistant Secretary of State
Ambassador Nudelman.
Boy, did we this is exactly what she said it and now we're making
good on the promise to the problem with Ukraine Of course
it being the chokehold really the main control point access
corridor for Russian gas into Europe, which is not to be
underestimated. I think people do not understand how important
this is. And of course I'm talking about gas that goes
through pipelines, not gas you put in your car that I and
actually Miki mentioned to me this morning. She said there's
going to be a lot of people new people listening to the show,
and they're going to tune in and she's it's going to be for them.
It's going to be The equivalent of they've been reading National
Enquirer all their life, and all of a sudden they pick up the
Financial Times, and they're supposed to understand it, the
eyes are gonna turn back in their head and go to I'm trying,
I'm trying to give as much background as possible. But this
is was is 100% about control. And the control, as we know, is
for the United States, we want to control we want to isolate
Russia, make them you know, like, an appendage of China,
that's the, you know, push all of that off to one side. And if
possible, not only be in control of the European energy, which
means we then really you we do control Europe in, in in to a
certain extent, be gases. I mean, I don't think people
really understand Johnny like, oh, no, so what you know, my
stove won't work. I don't think people understand how much gas
is it generates electricity, there's a lot of things you
really need this gas. And also there's, it's a the euro, the
recycled Euro, you know, you need Russia. Europe needs
Russia, particularly Germany, as a trading partner. And the
Netherlands is very interesting. Because their largest trading
partner is Russia. They have Rotterdam, the mosque flocked to
the Port of Rotterdam, all these pipes are coming in, they've got
big LNG for the liquefying gas and moving it off on it through
the port of Rotterdam on ships, but also continuing. They've got
a processing plant. I mean, that is the business. That is the
biggest business in the Netherlands is Rotterdam. And
shell has invested billions and billions and billions to be a
good player and a good partner with Gazprom and Russia. So this
was this could not have been a more perfect country to attack
for a number of reasons, which we'll get to. But what what was
happening is, because this is a, this is done by the new Romans
and and the Kagan's and John Kerry and the Neo cons, the same
people who took us into Iraq. President Obama is not helpful.
He's not do he doesn't know he personally is not even in the
game. Well, I think that's pretty much our thesis. And
he's, he's not helping, he's not, you know, waving swords.
He's not on the stage, but he's
not even doing he doesn't know his lines. And I don't think
anyone's giving him lines they don't understand he doesn't
understand what to do. So we needed to play it a different
way. And I'm pretty sure if I went back and listened over the
past two months, we discussed more than one saying they've got
to light up something big because this is getting no
attention. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. So you killed some people
in Ukraine whatever. And they did it they lit something big up
and now we have the attention of the world stage and and I have a
number of clips to back up an overall theory and while we're
doing this, I would also like to explain what happened but let me
get into get through a couple things first. No, these are not
bodies from the other Malaysian Air flight.
I like that law took the other courses in it fluid over the
Ukraine and then blew it up to cover what do you think in
industry the insurance companies wouldn't get you know, get just
basically cancel all the policies and Malaysian Airlines
if this was even possible? Yeah. And I mean, there's like a lot
of there's a lot of these planes are not the kind of thing you
can do this with no.
And, you know, yeah, we saw passports with holes punched
through them. Yeah, look, I have traveled many times with my old
passport and my new passport and the old passport had a hole
punched in it. So I can understand where people are
coming from and the passports didn't melt etcetera, etcetera,
cetera. But you know, with aviation, accidents, disasters,
a lot of weird things can happen. And, and you've probably
seen plane crashes where people walked away, but in fact, there
was a member of the plane crash that crashed behind John
McEnroe's house up in upstate New York. And they had this was
early days of CNN. Yeah, and this so they just stayed on it
live once they got up there and there was there was a lady in
her seat in the middle of the crash alive unscathed you know,
so it's not like you know, all the bodies should be ripped
apart and smashed to bits you know this a lot of people heard
Yeah, the statistically a lot of things. So these these theories
I like I understand where they're coming from, but no, I
think I think they're
quite enjoyable.
are enjoyable for sure. So now that it's not that and it like
it didn't happen yet.
What would be the point as to
exactly well, it most definitely did happen because I know enough
people Who are either directly related or no more than one
degree of separation from, from people who most definitely died
on the on the flight? The main thing, of course, is, why would
Putin ever want this to happen? There is that it makes no sense.
anywhere, in any angle you look at it doesn't make on any planet
No, for no, he would never want this to happen, what he wants
and what he I believe, has been trying. And he's just been he's
been very smart. He's been sitting quiet, like, look, we
got the US there. You know, they're making a big scene,
they're killing people over there in the east. I'm
definitely
let's wait for him to get their kit in the ringer, right? He's
just sitting back
waiting for stuff to happen. And they can accuse him all he
wants. But now all of a sudden, oops. Now we have people on
Facebook are talking about it. Now all of a sudden, it's
important. And what is it about? What is the what is the end
result supposed to be? I think, one clip and we're gonna play
this one right off the bat. So I'm gonna give you the punch
line to start with. And we'll work backwards from that because
a lot of interesting people have said some very funny things. And
of course, we want to keep this a comedy show. On Thursday
evening, which I think Charlie Rose, I believe tapes at four in
the afternoon for the Charlie Rose show, New York time. So
this happened Thursday morning, Hillary Clinton is clippity
clop. We can actually play the jingle for her. I haven't done
that in a while. I'm so happy to have her back.
He's sure it's not in the box.
No, clippity clop is here in the in this
message is clear. Clip.
All right, and she just comes out and says it. And I could
have cut this up into little bits. It's four minutes. But I
think the entire thing is worthy of listening. Because not only
does she tell you what this about why this has happened,
what the ultimate solution should be. But she even manages
to work in a promotion for her book that she predicted this.
And this number with this woman is great. Have you seen this
interview with Charlie Rose?
As a matter of fact, I did. Okay, let me go with the news of
this day, a plane shot down over eastern Ukraine. What questions
would you be
asked already? Mm hmm. Yeah. What questions would you be
asking if you were president at this moment?
Well, the questions I'd be asking is, number one, who could
have shot it down? Who had the equipment if Now remember,
this is before we've even had anyone on the ground, we already
have the story. We know it's been an essay 11 We noticed the
rebels have done it when you're the only only possible people
who could have provided this equipment. Were the Russians,
which by the way, it's pretty much like, you know, rebels in
Syria have American weapons, but that's beside the point. She
says this, The story is set. It's done. This script is rolled
out and she's in
on it. Of course, obviously, an anti aircraft, obviously,
I mean, it could have been a fighter jet that shot it down.
It could have been a terrorist bomb. But no, it's obviously
even though we've been given no proof except for a YouTube video
with two guys on the phone. And, and a hazy shot between two
trees of what looks like a missile launcher with a missile
missing. And we have proof by who
could have had the expertise to do that. Because commercial
airlines are big targets. But by the time they got over that part
of Ukraine, they should have been high. So it takes some, you
know, some planning. And the Ukrainian government has been
quick to blame it on terrorists, which is, you know, they're
named for the Russian insurgents. And there does seem
to be by the way,
notice the subtle language. It's now is no longer pro Russian
separatists. It's the Russian insurgents. This. This is very
good. He's very, very good. And Charlie Rose doesn't bat an eye.
Isn't that amazing? How she just slipped that in? Yeah.
It makes you wonder for never played plucky playing and of
Ukraine, they should have been high. So it takes some, you
know, some planning. And the Ukrainian government has been
quick to blame it on terrorists, which is, you know, their name
for the Russian insurgents. And there does seem to be some
growing awareness that it probably had to be rushed
insurgents. Now how we determine that will require some
forensics. But then, if there is evidence pointing in that
direction, the equipment had to come from Russia. What more the
Russians may or may not have done we don't know. I read as I
was walking in today to talk with you The Russian stock
market has dropped there is a great
pay attention to that. This is a common theme about the the oil,
the Russian stock market has dropped. This is hurting Russia
very common theme amongst the elite seal
of concern that not only was a civilian plane shot down, but
what this means about the continuing conflict in eastern
Ukraine and the role that Russia is playing. So what does the
United States do if there isn't a clear indication and clear
evidence that it was Russian separatist and perhaps using
weapons from Russia? Notice Charlie Rose is now saying
Russian separatists, he's going back to the old script and now
he's dropped the pro the pro Russian separatists and by the
way, if we had had real Americans on this flight, not
one you know, fifth have z some 50 percenter to you know, it
would have been get get I got my AK I got my AK my ar 15 We're
gonna kill them fucking rescues and Ukrainians going Putin gotta
get him. Because we're we've evolved as a slave species. We
you just have to show one American really being killed in
America gets up and wants to go there and kill everybody. So
this is very carefully chosen this target.
I think that the first question is, what does Europe do think
the United States has been very clear in both its criticism of
Russia and Putin its support for Poroshenko and the new Ukrainian
government. And there has just been a new round of sanctions
that President Obama himself has announced. As you know, the
Europeans have tried to figure out the best way forward. I was
recently in Europe, a lot of questions about whether or not
Russia was really the aggressor. Whether or not Putin was really
dangerous. How
are these silly Europeans? Don't think no better? This is crazy.
How could that be evaluated? From my perspective, and I have
the benefit of not being in the government?
I'm a lizard
I have the benefit of that's the most telling sign right there.
The benefit of being a lizard person as well? No, I'm not in
the government.
If there is evidence linking Russia to this, that should
inspire the Europeans to do much more on three counts one,
toughen their own sanctions make it very clear, there has to be a
price to pay.
This is indeed, one of the main outcomes that has to take place.
Because we want more control over Europe. And when I say we,
that is the the Yalies the Neo cons, the Kagan's it's not the
Obama administration. Right. It's the people who really, I
guess run things. Oil, big money. So yes, we want more
control over Europe. And, you know, how do we get that
number to immediately accelerate efforts and announced they are
doing so to find alternatives to Gazprom? You know, Russia has
not diversified its economy, it is still largely dependent upon
natural resources, principally gas and oil. And thirdly, we're
homeless. Just stop here for a second. She says it right there.
You must diversify from Gazprom. Well, this is not so simple,
unless, unless you have let me see what is that little place?
We had the Eurovision Song Contest? Oh, yes. Baku,
Azerbaijan, and which has what do they have there? They got
like lots of oil and gas. And we've been putting pipelines in
through what's the other place with the Thai eating guy? Oh,
yes, Georgia. Where were Hillary Clinton before she left her post
as Secretary of State placed a coast guard ships off the coast
of Georgia to protect the pipeline, which goes right in
the sea there. And of course, that is a northern route coming
in to Europe, which is controlled by United States and
to some extent, UK, oil and gas interests, but gas predominantly
did no way does it. supply enough gas to fill all of all of
Europe. So there's other alternatives that are being
built, but nothing is really in place. You also need to know
that Ukraine just auctioned off in a IMF privatization scheme
49% of the ownership of all of its pipelines. I wonder who that
goes to. And of course, we have Chevron and Exxon actually also
drilling in Ukraine. So we're not there yet. But all the
pieces are in place to diversify and divest away from Gazprom.
Do more in concert with us to support the Ukrainians, there
has to be more help on their borders in order to prevent this
porous border allowing Russians to go back and forth and
surgeons to do the same as your border control means do more to
help their military obtain better equipment, better
training. The Ukrainian military under Poroshenko has been much
more focused and more successful, but nobody kids them
If Russia really keeps weighing in on behalf of the insurgents,
there's a lot more that needs to be done and to put Putin on
notice that he has gone too far. And we are not going to stand
idly by put Putin on notice. So the Europeans have to be the
ones to take the lead on this. It was a flight from Amsterdam,
to koala lamb for over European territory. There should be
outrage in European capital.
Interestingly enough, there really isn't that much outrage
in European capitals. And this is big frustration in the
Netherlands, John. Now, of course, you know, I have unique
insight to this, of course, people have turned their, their
Twitter and Facebook avatars and icons to black. Oh, I kid you
not all of the focus in the Netherlands is now by the way,
the prime minister had a chat with Putin. Ruta Margarita, the
Prime Minister of the Netherlands. And he said, it was
a very, very tough, very tough conversation. But we both
agreed, the primary thing we need to do the number one thing
we need to do is to make sure we get the bodies out of there. So
the entire world is now certainly the Netherlands is
being focused on It's an outrage that people are just throwing
these bodies in bags. And and these aren't professionals. You
know, this is not an international thing. And so
everyone's focused on that no one is talking about, hey, wait
a minute. What did Putin do that we're going to kick his ass? And
the whole Dutch Government is having meetings behind closed
doors? And yes, you know, we have to be very, it's a
sensitive situation. And of course, that is because the
Netherlands without Gazprom, that could easily be, I don't
know 35% of their GDP even more. This is the Netherlands is
beautiful target for this. And so people are they don't know
what to do. They don't know that everyone is stuck. There's no
national there's no national way to call it and call for each
one. Well, no outrage, but also no official flags flying at half
mast is no no official statements like that, you know,
the king and queen, they signed the condolence register online,
you know, it's bullshit. It's all bullshit because they know
they they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. But now
you see an entire country that has been enslaved to such a
degree that they're like, man, whatever. There's even articles
being written by famous comedians is one comedian who
writes an article in the Intel so called intelligent newspaper.
And he said, oh, boy, this is such bullshit. No, all the
famous Dutch people are tweeting about how sad they are, fuck
them. And see, no one's talking about any real issues. It's just
it's a quagmire of bullcrap with no leadership, no direction, and
it'll it'll just people just fade away, and they won't talk
about it anymore. So perfect. And therefore action. If it
comes to this, do you think that tooten is, is willing to take
more risks than ever before with respect to the Ukraine, and
until Ukraine, and do you believe that sanction will have
the power to restrain him?
I think Putin is pushing the envelope as far as he thinks he
can. I think he obviously has annexed and occupied Crimea. He
is willing to keep Ukraine unstable in order to try to
intimidate the new Ukrainian government to back off from
their approach to the EU. And I think the only language he
understands is one that is very tough, very patient very clear.
The sanctions are an important piece of that. And there is
evidence that they are having an effect, but sanctions alone will
not necessarily restrain him or change his calculus. That's why
Oh, calculus, I would like to see the Europeans do what I urge
them to do. And I write about in the book, going back to March
2009, come up with an alternative energy strategy that
does not leave you to the mercy of Putin. And Gazprom, hey, you
know, they've made some steps but not nearly enough. In my
estimation, that drug dealer
over there, man, he's given you bad crack, you gotta come over
here and take the crack from me, you know, I got the better drugs
you don't want to kind of once apply. Then, of course, the
final question, which should Charlie's very good at, tell me
about the sexuality in your DNA? Sorry. Okay. So it's very clear
what this is about that is the end game and how are we going to
do it? How do we get control? Well, we immediately had a call
for an emergency session of the United Nations Security Council,
which was called for by one of the best speeches I've seen in a
long long time from our boy Yes, I'm sorry. Nudelman is boy Yes,
the prime minister who is dyslexic as he's reading his
script instead of saying bastards, I think he says
bastards. I'm not quite sure, but it's it didn't come out
right. Let me express on behalf of the Ukrainian government, my
deep condolences to those innocent, who were killed by
Russian led terrorists, Russian led terrorists. We ask all
respective governments to participate in this
investigation and to support the Ukrainian government to bring to
justice all these bastards committed this international
crime. Bastards. Best dreads thesis decrying against
humanity, crime against humanity as these bangs his fist on the
desk. By the way, I cut out all the pauses, the dramatic pauses
this guy puts in was just I couldn't I couldn't handle how
to cut them all out. All red lines have been already crossed.
I love that all red lines have been already crossed. This is
the deadline. This is the deadline. That's a house track
in making right there. GX two, where are you, man? This is the
deadline. What does that even mean? Yeah.
Doesn't mean anything is insane. Yeah.
We ask our international partners to call an emergency UN
Security Council meeting. And to make everything we can to stop
this war, a war against Ukraine, a war against Europe. And after
this terrorist shutdown and Malaysian aircraft. This is the
war against the world. Ah, there you go. It's the war against the
world. That's right. Okay. Then we have President Obama who now
whenever President Obama says something, you gotta listen
very, very carefully. This guy, whoever writes for him. As we've
learned, nothing is left to chance. Every single word every
syllable is very carefully scripted. So we know exactly
what he can point back to later on and said, See, I told you so.
And three little quick clips from his previous speech
evidence must not be tampered with. So before anyone talks
about anything, he says evidence must not be tampered with.
Meaning we're going to say the evidence was tampered with.
Whenever someone tries to figure out what really happened here.
Well, hey, evidence was tampered with. I told you. So
investigators need to access the crash site, which means Hey, we
won't have access, which of course we don't. And the solemn
task of returning those who were lost on board the plane to their
loved ones, needs to go forward immediately. So that is the part
for the Netherlands. You see, the script unfolds right here.
This is the full book of what is supposed to happen. The United
States stands ready to provide any assistance that is
necessary. We've already offered the support of the FBI and the
National Transportation Safety Board, which what is that? What
does the FBI have to do with it?
If this guy was got their nose in these things, really do why
we're the ones that go in there and screw it to tamper with the
evidence is that because
people in the the Washington still believes that the rest of
the world thinks the FBI is cool, and they get the gavel and
get their guy.
I don't know what the point of it is,
which has experience in working with international partners on
these types of investigations. They are on their way personnel
from the FBI and the National Transportation Safety Board. In
the coming hours and days, I'll continue to be in close contact
with leaders from around the world. As we respond to this
catastrophe. Now pay attention. Our immediate focus will be on
recovering those who were lost, investigating exactly what
happened and bring forward the facts. Now here, here are the
facts. And now here comes some interesting language from the
President. want to point out there will likely be
misinformation as well. I think it's very important for folks to
sift through what is factually based and what is simply
speculation. Okay, folks need to sift through what is factually
based ie what I tell you. And what is misinformation. No one
can deny the truth that is revealed in the awful images
that we all have seen. Wow, that's a good one. This is this
is one of the better ones. No one can deny the truth that you
see in the pictures. Wow. Do you do you get the same chills from
that John or did you don't? Because the truth no one can
deny it. The truth is
I didn't get shield from it. It's just like listen to this
guy is just at the point where it's just numb and numbing ly.
Here's
the final line is and the eyes of the world are on eastern
Ukraine. And we are going to make sure that the truth is out.
What does that mean? We're going to make sure The truth is out
like the getting the truth out. We just saw the photos. No, the
truth is out, like get out of here truth. What does that mean?
I don't know what it is everybody knows
now, based based upon what the President here said and also,
and I have it in the show notes if anyone wants to watch it or
listen to it what Samantha Power said, who is our ambassador to
the United Nations who of course, as as predicted, had it
had an emergency session where she she said the whole she had
everything she had, it was an essay 11 And it came from the
Russians, the killed children. It's it's horrible. She was
choking back tears. It was a fantastic performance. But I
would advise her
she was it was a fantastic performance she read.
I would advise her to look up once from her paper once in a
while. All you see is the top of her head. This is stupid. It's
no good. Now in the State Department, right and this by
the way, Brian, the great. The gay Crusader pointed this out to
me. There's a new girl who I don't know who she is. And but
she's great. And she has a sexy blue dress on and she got like
dangly earrings and she got long hair tied up in the back in like
a horsehair ponytail deal. And she and I don't know, I don't
know where she's from. I couldn't identify what
organization she's from. But she she laid into Jen Psaki in and I
think she's a new troublemaker we have to keep our eye on.
Is it fair to say that the United States, given the case
that Ambassador Power laid out, has at least reached a
preliminary conclusion about those matters?
I think there's a range of information that's publicly
available, as is the case with serious incidents like this,
we'll let the official conclusion be made. But
obviously, Ambassador Power wouldn't have said that if there
wasn't a reasonable belief that that was accurate information,
possible conflict of interest that people might see when the
eventual report comes out of how this happened. The US government
given Samantha Power statements at the UN, is then the US the US
government is then sending the FBI to also be part of this
investigation this report. Couldn't it be difficult for for
the results of this report to stick? As we're already hearing
sort of a line from the US government that they believe
it's Russia's fault than they are? The government isn't
directly involved in this investigation? That's not a
directly range of other nations? The answer your question? Sure.
I'm not exactly what either the President or Ambassador Power
said is exactly what they said. They also both made clear that
there's an investigation and we're going to see through the
FBI participation, the FBI clearly has a range of important
expertise.
We've got a range of important experts today. I
can't say what Yeah, calculus criminal investigations. I think
that's
expertise that could they're good at stacking the deck, we
don't know could come in handy. In this case, yes. Let's be
offering. There'll be a range of expertise entities that will
participate in the investigation,
like guys who like plant guns on people and stuff of a range of
expertise. All right, so this is it's perfect. Now we have
everything set up and the narrative is these so we have
these Russian insurgents, let's just call this I want to just
call them Putin's guys thugs. Let's just call them Putin
thugs, who are killing people in in East Ukraine. Because, you
know, Putin hates everything and and wants to shove his gas of
everybody's as a horrible horrible man. And then the idea
is, these bonehead drunk guys shot a plane out of the sky.
That's kind of the the narrative and it's propagated perfectly by
this woman, Julie, I off from New Republic. Are you familiar
with her?
I don't know her, but I saw her talking. She somehow has gotten
on the circuit. Yeah,
well, because it's new republic, like a neocon right wing thing.
Never really has been it's it's kind of funny politic. And I
can't give you a simple definition. But it tends to be
kind of old fashioned conservative in a, in a kind of
a communist way. I thought interesting is the best I can
do.
What's the short clip and she she is she's on the circuit
because she's reading the scripts perfectly. And she, she
looks kind of the part she's, she's, she's good eye candy.
She's on the show all the time.
So before it was slowly congealing into this frozen
conflict, it had fallen out of the headlines. We hadn't really
I think we met at least in the US, nobody was really paying
attention to Ukraine for at least the past month or maybe
two. And then all of a sudden, a jetliner full of Europeans and
citizens of other countries flying from Amsterdam to Kuala
Lumpur is down by these boneheads with surface to air
missiles. So all of a sudden it's affected Hang on people who
had never heard of the Donbass region
perfect. It's working out as good as it gets. It's working on
the same program.
I mean, what kind of thing I would have said, This is what's
so great about it I'll always miss it would be drunken Bon
drunken
bonehead. If she's on with the former ambassador to maybe you
know Russia maybe I'm not sure he's a former ambassador and yet
these guys get rolled out I've never seen this guy Hey, he's he
could be off the street for all I know but just put a lower
third for Ambassador I believe it and now it's I'm just skip
that. Forget about that. That's not important. But let's get
into what how this was done. Was this really a couple of
boneheads not to have you thought about this John, I'm
sure you've we've seen
some of the over some some clips that we have here and so we can
get another angle on this and then you can give us your
explanation. Sure. I want to start with the blaming, you
know, blaming the carrier scenario that came out and then
it was done. Out of the blue came an article in The Atlantic,
written by James Fallows of all people whose wouldn't normally
be doing this, but play mh 17 flight pan plan story a
joke.
It's unclear who fired the missile. But mh 17 did fly over
a warzone the region below embroiled in conflict between
Russian separatists and the Ukrainian government. It's her
it's sure is hard to understand why you would route an aircraft
over unknown combat. But the planes altitude was determined
to be safe for commercial air traffic. Even though NATO's top
commander, American general Philip Breedlove said recently
that Russia has been providing air defense training to the pro
Russian rebels why this Malaysian flight did not file to
either go left to right and not over the combat zone is still a
mystery tonight.
Okay, so we get that little kind of teaser I can Can I Can we go?
Can
I respond to that? Or well, I
want to play all of them. Respond to the whole group.
There's three. All right. There is the counter argument which
CBS which I believe that probably more than even ABC
which you like to think of as the government spokes whole
network. I always think CBS is the one more so based on the
stories not based on the connections then which you cite,
because there's relatives and people are fucking each other.
So ACBS take on aerospace, just a little little tip
the airspace over eastern Ukraine was not closed and
numbers of airlines have been using the route. The wreckage is
yielding many clues. And Bob Orr has that. The trail of debris
from what was Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 provides the first
real clue. Parts of the wreckage and bodies are spread out over
several miles along the flight path. Strong evidence the Boeing
triple seven started coming apart in midair after some force
crippled the aircraft. Large sections of the jet had been
recovered away from the primary crash site. This side section of
fuselage shown with a man standing on one of the Jets
emergency exit doors, and this part of the planes tail
apparently broke off before the bulk of the jet hit the ground.
Alright, so this guy, of course didn't seem to have as much
trouble as others getting around. Now the last one,
especially Bob or Yeah, easy, right?
Okay, so now we have the PBS NewsHour take on the no fly
zone, which from a pilot and it's actually a very interesting
discussion. That's very convincing. But but when you
look at the numbers of planes that are actually flying over
this area, if they are to be believed, that were run in The
Atlantic magazine, it's kind of weirdly contradictory. But but
play this and then what you can do give us a take on this miles,
I
want to ask you about the the flight of this plane, why was a
passenger plane flying over a war zone a place where militants
had access to surface to air missiles? It's a simple answer.
I think, Judy, it's just a commercial decision which
trumped common sense safety decision. Now, the truth be told
that technically This aircraft was flying in free airspace
above the so called lid of the war zone up to 32,000 feet was a
no fly zone. They were 33,000 feet but as a pilot, I can tell
you, I always like to have an out and when you're flying with
only 1000 feet of margin. If you have something that requires you
to descend rapidly a decompression and engine loss or
whatever. In short order, you're going to be right in the middle
of a no fly zone. Best case scenario you're going to end up
having to land doing an emergency landing inside
contested territory. So for an air carrier to fly I overdid it
with these zones. With such little margin for error raises a
lot of questions which I'm sure these families would like to
have answered, I looked at the flight paths of some other
airlines because it wasn't just Malaysia that went through there
on a routine basis. But if you look at what Air France has done
recently, what British Airways has done recently, they have
scrupulously avoided Ukraine airspace for some time now. And
that is the prudent thing to do.
That is a T shirt right there. Is that is the prudent thing to
do? No, you said Putin. Putin. That's a new one. That's a Putin
thing to do. Well, let me respond to that. aircraft fly
over combat zones all the time commercial aircraft, if you look
at what's flying over Afghanistan, if you look what's
flying over Syria, what's flying over Iraq, it happens all the
time at these altitudes all the time. What is interesting, that
AirFrance and British Airways had stopped flying is because
they knew along with Putin, who we have reports also know lot
for months now was not flying over the area told all of his
associates did not fly over the area, because it was known this
was going to happen. This was this was and it was also it's a
no brainer that this was going to happen, but that Malaysians
their their boneheads whatever. But
you know, I took it a step further. And I don't want to be
sound like my typical bigot about this when it comes to
Asian culture. But in general, and I know that, you know, I get
some feedback, but I think it can be borne out by anyone who's
had any experience. They're cheap. Best Price, save money
cut corners. There's no way they're going to fly around if
it's going to cost like he says a commercial decision and may
cost a few $1,000 Extra in fuel
much more than that. But of course, you always want to fly
in a straight line as possible. And if anything, this is now
going to give airlines yet another reason to jack up
prices. This is
will fly the straight line. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
But this is not strange. This is people commercial aircraft been
flying over war zones for decades. For decades.
Right. Well, the the piece in The Atlantic shows the number of
flights that over the last week that flew over this war zone
that includes 75, Singapore flights 62 Ukrainians 56, Luke
tonsa, you think they know better? So here
is the question, because aviation in general knows that
they are in no danger flying at altitudes of 32,000 feet or a
blow above course, 33 is funny. We'd like that as a magic
number. Yeah,
we do. Yes. Right. We forgot to mention, it's always fun. It's
always cool for a ring of the bell.
So now we come down to one essential question. Was this an
accident? Or was it done on purpose? Or is there a third
option? Is it a combination of the two? Now I'm going to
suggest that commercial aircraft are not targeted. That's why
most of them except for the ones who knew the script, which would
be the French and the Brits, and the Russians did not fly over
that zone. And let's talk about the essay 11 or the book. Now,
this is where our I was lucky because it happened yesterday
morning. This is when I started to get some information, being
aware of a lot of military people a lot, a lot of people
who understand these systems. So I'm going to give you my
layman's version of what I have understood. But there is some I
think some actual kind of smoking gun evidence which I I'm
very which I think no one else has no one else put this
together. So the s a 11 radar aircraft missile system is a
semi active homing radar missile system. So the way it works is
you have a targeting radar. And by the way that absolutely
correct to say that you need to be skilled to operate this
stuff. Absolutely correct. And I believe that people operating at
worst skilled. So it has, it's called SSR. So you have to,
so you're gonna discount that concept, the following concept,
which is because we had all these drunks. In fact, can I
play one clip before? I want to just play the drunk clip
discussing the drunk. Drunk.
Drunk isn't the drunk
guarding great PBS. I
love this part of the story.
Matt Frey you've just arrived in the area. What do you know of
what is at the crash site now?
Well, Judy, I spoke to an MSc Want to turn from Canada just a
few minutes ago who has just come back from the crash side,
which is about an hour's drive from where I am now. And it's
dark. By the way, there's a curfew on people that really
drive in the dark in this part of the world these days, because
it's just too dangerous. What he told me was extraordinary,
because you essentially describe the biggest crime scene on the
planet, one of the biggest crime scenes
in aviation history. Wow, that really discounts 911, done,
guarded by nothing more than a group of what he described as
drunken hood lands in uniform. These rebels, all of them
aren't, most of them, drunk, drunk, guarding this drunk this
mass grave, which has been treated with some degree of
respect mainly by the locals by minors who live in the area, and
their families, they have covered a lot of the bodies in
blankets. They have tried to salvage some of the things that
they think might be sensitive, like passports and so on. But
really, they've also tried to think very hard not to
contaminate the crime scene in any particular way. The other
interesting thing is that this monitor said that when he
arrived at the scene, they got a very hostile reception from the
people guarding the grave. They weren't allowed in there at
first and it took a little bit of negotiation. They did finally
arrive. There was some reports of warning shots being fired in
the air.
All right, so yeah, I'm sorry, but a bunch of drunk guys are
sitting in the missile launcher going Hey, bar has learned this
shit, man. Fire looks like looks like a military aircraft to me
Comrade fire. No. Yeah, that is, of course, we would like you to
believe that. I like it. I like that story. I think it's good,
too. And it's catching by the way I it's catching people
believe these stories. No, this is sophisticated equipment. And
and by the way, I think that yes, the Russian material
Russian train, of course, Putin definitely is is trying to
maintain some kind of order. And so he's he's protecting a border
they're looking at the guy is not innocent. Of course, there's
all kinds of bullshit going on. And absolutely, he's got his
troops on the border, and he's handing weapons out to, to the
so called rebels. We do the same thing. We're giving weapons to
rebels in Syria.
This is not a stop. I'm gonna stop you right there with this
comment that was made earlier. Where were they saying it's
Russia as far as Russia's fault? Isn't it? Really? If you start
to really look at this properly, it's actually our fault.
Are you going to make me jump ahead? Yes, you're gonna make me
jump ahead. Oh, I didn't mean to. It's okay. I'm you. Fine.
I'm going to jump ahead to our favorite Professor Cohen.
Oh, okay. This is all yours.
Here's a guy who we trust, right?
Yeah, well, we well, as much as we can trust anybody with the
kind of research we do, like Senator Moynihan said that all
of us are entitled to our own opinion, but not to our own
facts. The biggest fact missing from the story of the tragedy of
the airliner is, is that for weeks and months now, the
government in Kyiv, which is a government supported 100%, by
Washington, has been bombing cities in eastern Ukraine,
bombing them, destroying them leveling that we probably have
about 250 to 300,000 Refugees having fled to Russia, or other
parts of Ukraine, that's humanitarian cow. Catastrophe.
We don't know how many civilian casualties there are, but
probably at least two or 3000. In response, these rebels,
whether we like them or not, have declared that they will try
to shoot down incoming Ukrainian war planes. And they have been
doing so it was in this context that this tragedy happened.
Without that fact. We are dealing with opinion. And I
don't think we honor the people who died by this orgy of
political opinion that is coming out of the United States, and
particularly out of Kyiv, which is producing a lot of, if not
false, misleading information. So I think that's where things
stand. And we need all the entire picture to put this
tragedy in context.
I love the was he the orgy of political commentary? Was that
what he said,
Well, I got the clip. Okay, when he butchered this, I was a long
clip, I took the just a chunk out of the middle to show you
that CNN doesn't know what they're doing. And I want you
to, on this case, I want you to listen to the innuendo
by the way that that clip from the professor was from CNN this
morning.
Oh, that's good. Yeah. Well, that makes up for what I'm gonna
do. That's a good thing that is Yeah. So that that guy, somebody
says it's a fact and they just have bits. It's kind of a fact.
No, it's a bit. It's kind of this, just play this and you
didn't tell me what they said.
Okay, so mix So these, these missile launchers are being
turned around, first of all, the question is how damning is that?
I mean, it's a question that I mean, you can't read I already
love it. I think someone's like rushing to put something in the
prompter and someone's yelling or he did but the turning
around?
And is it all we were tracking this and we were hearing this
from Ukrainian officials but we're also tracking this with
our own United States intelligence. We're seeing we're
confirming what he is saying. Well, that's right. So far, all
of these reports in according to US officials, we've talked to
they rather than confirming it, they'll use that sort of evasion
evasive language to say, we can't dispute it, which often
means they have the evidence, but they just don't want reveal
how they obtained or how they got certain kinds of evidence,
but they they are certain that the missile launch occurred
there. They're not entirely certain but highly suspicious
that it was probably Russians, certainly who were training the
militia on how to use these weapons systems and the
suspicion deep suspicion without actually concluding that fact
quite yet. The deep suspicion is that Russians were directly
involved in launching those missiles
that was a minute and 10 seconds to say to say this very simple
was she started off with this effect and deteriorate the
deeps? It's astonishing to me well what these these talking
heads do in these situations?
Well, since you've taken me off track and I will get back again
in a moment. Peter King came of course the first John McCain was
on within seconds. And as we predicted, didn't we say the
minute
we're gonna be a John McCain puppet that just comes up every
so often?
I think this is the one
I am not concluding. Yeah. We don't want to make the mistake
of make reaching conclusions we'll know within the next few
hours so but if it is resolved to be either separatist or
Russian actions mistakingly believing that this was a
Ukrainian war playing I think there's going to be held to pay
and there should be
held to pay held to pay bills to pay Peter King comes on and Paul
to pay Peter King has he's got a he's got a pronunciation issue,
which I kind of like yeah, there's many ways to say Putin.
You can say Putin, like I liked the girl from Russia today. Oh,
by the way, on cue with the President's Oh, there'll be
misinformation. The another Chicky from RT resigns it's too
much lies. I can't handle it. I love that one but she didn't do
it on air. This sucks. flibs
Dan you know what? He tweeted it. I think the RT producers
have identified the John's provoca door dad out bitch and
they don't let him go on live
Yeah, they blocker at the door. We know what you're up to vino
have a job to go have a go to beat your resignation. So you
can say pool and you can say pool 10 You can say but McCain
he's got a whole new one. So does Putin have blood on his
hands with this plane crash? I love the question. Jake. Thank
you so much blood on his hands blood. Putin is responsible of
Putin, Putin. Putin Putin notes Putin. Putin. Putin. Putin is
very cool. So does Putin has blood on his hands with this
plane crash?
Putin is responsible if you want to use expression blood on his
hands, I would say yes, as a world leader. He has to know
that when he transfer transfers weaponry of this sophistication,
which is so lethal, he has to be responsible for the consequences
for that, and American died. So I would blame America for that.
And I also compute
what is the name of the Russian commercial airline John Aeroflot
Aeroflot? Yeah, sure. It's Aeroflot. It's Aeroflot us.
Sure. Yeah, just like it's Putin is
responsibility on him for all of the others. He is the one who
made the decision. If he had not transferred this equipment, it
wouldn't have happened. And if he hadn't ordered the training
of the of these sessions to operate the equipment and
couldn't have happened. So yes, in the world stage, he's
responsible.
So congressman, what should the consequences be? What would you
advise President Obama to do?
I was critical of President Obama yesterday for not being
more assertive. I thought he was very effective today. I thought
Ambassador Samantha Power was extremely effective with the
United Nation. That's right. And Americans have to come together
behind the President on this. I think though, we need very
strong economic sanctions stronger than we've had. And
I've urged actually the we consider having sanctions on our
flat though you know, the
flat arrow flat, flat, Arrow flat Putin's Aeroflot airlines
aero flat deck Peter can go home stupid moron
looked at the sanctions. Yeah, of course it looked at the sank.
They're all banking saying, Now gasps.
It's all about Gazprom. Okay, now back to the Gazprom back to
this. So we got a bunch of drunks who have no idea just
pushing buttons. They don't they don't know what they're doing
about this semi active home. Homing radar.
Hey, Adam. Let's go into let's go into the thing there and
lodge a missile. I'm so baked. Let's go launch missile talking
cool man.
You're gonna be people saying these assholes are laughing
people have died? Yeah, exactly. So the way this thing works is
first, we the targeting radars used to identify and track the
target. And what it will do is it's going to identify this as a
bias, either mode A or mode, Charlie, these are transponder
modes, which I happen to know a little bit about having passed
the tests and how I have the license. So they would know this
is not the one you want to pick off. This is not the one you
want to do. But okay, so it's going to lock on to a signal,
then you have a secondary radar, which typically is from a
different radar station, in this case, I believe it may have been
may have been used by the same, the same system, they have done
the illumination. Because so what happens is the missile goes
and missile ignores the general area, but then the target is
going to be as we call it in the in the biz illuminated, you're
lighting it up, this is very typical. This is how, you know
when guys need a, an attack or an air attack. And they're on
the ground. They you know, they focus radar on the area where
they where they want the bombs dropped. And this is how it
works. You have your primary and secondary systems. And then the
missile goes, Okay, gotta be over there. And then it actually
doesn't fly into it. It explodes in the general vicinity, and it
has enough shrapnel and crap that it punctures and you know,
the thing comes out of the air, right? That's how the NSA 11
works. Now, even though everyone says we have, we know everything
we've got, but the US satellites picked it up, which is funny,
because we had another Malaysian aircraft, we couldn't detect
explosions. We couldn't detect anything. The thing is gone. You
have no idea of radar pings black boxes, but in this case,
oh, it's very clear. We know exactly how it went down. In
fact, on our friends, CNN, they have the virtual studio. John,
have you seen the same dickhead who goes it was like your
geography teacher. And he stands in the middle of the floor and
then he has all this virtual 3d stuff flying around him. But he
pretty much just says it out. Right? They have no clue
following the breaking news. Robbing Malaysia Flight. Tom
Foreman virtual studio, as opposed to the real studio urine
broth with a closer look at the attack. What are you seeing?
What are you finding out? Yeah, what it what's on the
teleprompter, Jeff? Well,
what are you finding out?
We gotta use this all the time. Hey, John, how you doing? What
are you seeing? What are you finding out? What are you
seeing? What do you what are you learning as investigators try to
get control of the ground there, they're following high tech
tracks to figure out where this rocket was launched. And who did
it he was talking about the first part to begin with, you
know, planes like this send off radar signals. We've talked
about that a lot. Those radar signals can be followed by
satellites. Well, this is true of this Buk missile launching
system we've talked about when it is looking for a target, it
sends off a big radar signal. And when it launches a missile
into the air that sends off a heat signature first, which can
be read by a rocket overhead. And the rocket itself sends off
a radar signal when it gets partway along the way, all which
can be followed by satellites and other types of monitoring
systems and systems special secret satellite systems, Moon
bases, clear way all those signals and what do you wind up
with? You wind up with a very clear line that goes from the
launch up to where the missile was up to where the plane
exploded in the sky. Now he has a dot, dot dot flying past his
head in the virtual studio. Like wow, they know exactly where it
came from everything. It's so precise. We have secret
listening systems, high tech, that's one of the way
authorities have been able to trace this back and say they're
so confident about where it came from now, to determine who shot
it. That's a different equation. They've managed to take a very
big map that had a very big circle on it 24 hours ago, that
they draw a circle the size of Ukraine, it came from somewhere
in this area, we'd call and they push that circle down much
smaller I would target that they Think big gains the launch site
think that's bullshit I'll precise No, it's bullshit now
they have to look at things like the phone calls we've been
talking about. Now we got the phone calls that forget the
circle. We got the phone days of purported phone calls per video
released released by the Ukrainian Ministry of the
Interior showing what they say, Hey, goop launchers in the area
missing or apparently missing a missile there we go back to the
high tech satellites. I'm confused. Now. We've got phone
calls and YouTube.
Didn't they? Didn't they just knocked down a transport plan?
Yes. That account for the missing missile.
Yes. Thank you very much. She put all of that together, Wolf
with the high tech track tech track. That's what's allowing
them to circle down even if they have to struggle with that very
issue. You were talking about moments ago. Control of the
ground without that, right. We'll never know where this
missile came from. All right, but in the meantime, they keep
looking okay, thank you just
nothing. They don't have no idea. So they went through all
that expensive rigmarole. Yeah,
they say we don't know. Right. Okay. Now, what has been
happening and we have YouTube videos as far back as June 18.
And these are in the show notes. I in fact, there's one really
cute girl she's a she's a Russian separatist I guess, a
pro Russian insurgent. And she actually it was really hard to
get an AK 47 strapped around her she got to her. You know, her T
shirts open is really cute. And open a t shirt. Yeah, it's like
it's like rip down a little bit. No rip.
Yeah. She's a bottle of working for some some propaganda. Ah, so
yes.
And yeah, they of course. And thank you. So and we have
multiple reports of Ukrainian fighter jets. shet doing what we
call shadowing civilian aircraft. And the way that works
is in fact I'll read from the translation unverified but I'm
we have enough Russians who can verify this for me. The
following happened just short while ago there was a regular
passenger plane civilian plane flying over slow launch. A
Ukraine knee and fighter plane hid behind the passenger plane
then dove below it dropped its bombs on slow launch and then
rose to hide behind the passenger plane again. And she
goes on to say that means it's provocative provocation and of
course it is provocation and what you want now is you want
boneheads drunken boneheads to obviously shoot at these fighter
planes. But of course, you know, even the boneheads aren't that
stupid? Because they know you might kill people and we don't
want to do this. Now, here's where it gets interesting. What
if I told you that there was an exercise involved around the
event that happened on Thursday? Before it that actually points
to how this went down? And military NATO exercise? Don't
you hate it when that happens?
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let me see new tips. No no as new FIP new fit Okay, good. No
agenda notes.com And I get the document
notes. Calm Oh, there it is. Okay, it
says new FIP document by Adam curry. And in there's a PDF. I'm
looking and click on the PDF and this is in German. Now. Luckily
I happen to be able to read some German
but this is a second read some German said this is
a miracle you're storing in there Fluke see room door
military CheMin over. And what this relates to John is the
outages of radar. On two occasions in Europe. We talked
about this on the show.
All right. We talked about this is when the when there was a big
coup was kind of a phony scandal that actually
happened twice. We had it once on let me go to my notes here.
Here we go. June 5, and again on June 10. It only affected
aircraft really above flight level 250 And about now a little
bit higher than seven seven kilometers so let's just say
this really works well at altitude certainly 32,000 feet
and above. Now, if you look at the reports and this this German
report is an official goondas document. Not all planes were
affected for some planes mode A failed for some mode see failed.
And the source of the problem has was identified at the time
as to possibly planes but certainly ground receivers the
source of non identified and primary radio was not affected
only transponders. Now if you look at this document, and I
will translate a part a portion of it. This is regarding the new
FIP exercises on between June 2 And June sixth to the same
period. A new fib stands for NATO electronic warfare force
integration period. Electronic warfare is this kind of stuff.
I'm translating Mr. Obama to fit. The new fit exercises
exercise serves to train methods of electronic warfare the
exercise was conducted in the area of case care this is all
hungry between June 2 And June 6 participants were the 59th
fighter of Zen gurgi twel, the anti aircraft missile regiment
of Aramoana, air combat control and the 54th radar unit
vestment. And essentially what this document says is, this is
the kind of egg this is exactly the type of exercise they were
participating in was jamming radar and spoofing radar
signals. And then maybe something went out of control.
Maybe someone turned the music up a little too loud, but on the
ninth and the 10th we actually saw a civilian aircraft radar,
transponders disappearing from radar, which is now pretty much
conclusive. We can take that right back to these exercises,
June 5, certainly June 9, possibly because the exercise
took place between the second and sixth of June. And this is
specifically this tactic fly within four kilometers behind a
civilian aircraft. This is they drilled for this job, jam the
radar and then you make the mill mode available. So it looks like
you are either a NATO aircraft or Ukrainian aircraft or any
aircraft you want on the military mode. I believe that a
either NATO that will be easy, but it doesn't really matter who
wins it is not going to be the Germans or anything like that
probably Ukrainian maybe some of the FA teams that we got in
Poland whoever was split and you don't need a lot of power went
up there shadowed the this Malaysian aircraft it was all
intentional. They jammed the the mode A mode C transponder
broadcasted their mode, mil transponder code, just sit back
for kilometers and then just wait for the for the target lock
wait for the for the plane to be lit up by the secondary radar.
You're done. That's what I think the likely scenario is that wow,
that's a good one. And it fits in with this training and fits
in with it with
with a lot of the conspiracies about the Ukrainian jets
shooting it down. Yes. Yes, that would be as good as
that wouldn't be it would be kind of far fetched if they
hadn't trained for exactly these scenarios a month ago and we had
the radar Blips. Right. So So these drunken boneheads, on the
ground. They had a confirmed target. They had a confirm mode,
mil target and they were spoofed. And and so yes, they
intended to shoot something out of the sky. No, they were not
drunk and like whatever they got spoofed. And by the way, in a
sophisticated manner, well done well played. So you know, who
did this it's kind of irrelevant. It all goes back
essentially to Hillary Clinton. The Kagan's the people from Yale
the Neo cons John Carell
Do you know great analysis again, of course the only our
show does these and comes up with this sort of thing. Thank
you. I knew that it'd be something like this though. It
had to be
Yeah, well, when when I found that it was sent to me of course
when I got the German document when I when I was able to
connect that to the outages on radar. And then I talked to set
me up I have talked to a number of people over the past couple
of days but certainly a lot yesterday. And this is you know,
they are this is this is what they trained for. This is the
way it would have been done. And you know, guys who are sitting
in these and actually you need not just two guys, you know,
that could be 13 people in involved in essay 11 With all
the illumination radars, etc. These are not a bunch of drunken
boneheads okay it's just bullshit but this was a good one
this was this was well done and it was well executed the target
was carefully chosen by a country that has no army Oh Here
come the Dutch Wait a minute we got to find the bullet you know
like the Dutch I'm not gonna invade anybody and the Dutch are
so mind controlled say I hate to say it. All they can do is you
know change their icons on Facebook and Twitter and talk
about the bodies and nothing else and the government is not
going to do anything because they're they're deathly afraid
of Putin
right and Malaysian Airlines is not a NATO No,
thank you very much
so you don't need as a NATO can
no Americans on the flight. Europeans on the flight
perfectly chosen could not be hog and Malaysians
or already known as a bonehead operation from the missing plane
it this was a directly targeted, perfectly targeted, well
executed false flag. This is a real one a real one. And oh, by
the way, I thought it was disgusting. But I have to get
the president props. Let me close by making one additional
comment. On board Malaysian Air Lines Flight MH 17 There were
apparently nearly 100 researchers and advocates
traveling to an international conference in Australia
dedicated to combating AIDS. As you know Putin hates gays.
That was a that was disgusting. But even it was disgusting when
you play my clip mh 17 France 24 correct age researchers numbers
on that Malaysia Airlines Flight one seven were a number of AIDS
researchers on their way to attend an AIDS conference in
Melbourne, Australia. That conference began on schedule
this Saturday, with a minute of silence to remember the victims,
six researchers were on board that flight and not around 100
as had previously been reported.
Exactly course, anybody said in that same speech, there will be
misinformation there. Yeah.
Delivering.
He's so right now. Let me play a couple more clips. Because if
you really want to know what the what's really going on, and I
have come to respect and love this guy, but not only because
he talks with the most incredible accent, but still has
American sounding to it. And sometimes he just goes into this
gravelly voice so it's a it's a between a Kissinger and
something else. Zbigniew Brzezinski. He also talks in 45
second sound bites that guy is phenomenal. Okay, bets. So for
clips, the whole thing is laid out and you understand what's
going on clip one, Zbigniew Brzezinski we should
have they are aware of the fact that this is truly a
historically defining moments. If we do the things we need to
do, if we are firm and clear, but also somewhat flexible, we
can still get put in the chance we can
still give Putin the chance I have to work on his accent, if
we can get him to be somewhat flexible is your Dracula
to redeem himself. And to rejoin the community of nations. We are
in fact facing the first use of force over territorial issues in
Europe since the outbreak of World War Two, you literally die
doing it. But I think he can be persuaded to stop if we stand
united. And that means presidential leadership from the
United States and consistent continued actions. and European
leaders rallying with us. It's a major challenge, but it is
defining okay. Now
this is it is really his script. This is he loves this. This guy
is so good. And of course Putin is responsible. The only way
that this can that this Putin can save himself is he must
redeem himself, which of course is never going to happen. But
that No,
I disagree with that. Oh, hold on. Well, first of all I have in
mind put in doing it. That is to say he can still say that the
actions that were taken to shoot down that plane by his thugs
with the arms he provided went far beyond anything he intended.
And this was an illegal criminal act, and the people responsible
for it will be handed over to the international tribunal. And
you can suspend the military intervention in Ukraine itself,
which is a cause of possible conflict between the East and
the West as a whole. These are the actions he can undertake. If
he fails to undertake then he is actually challenging the
cohesion of the international system and the security of
Europe at the same time. So
the entire world peace right now lays in the balance By with one
man. We call him Putin. He flies on Arrow flat. And he and we
need and this, of course, is what this event is about to get
all the European leaders in line because who's not playing
Angular Merkel is not playing nice with us here in America.
fact I do have a vertical clip. Okay,
what can it let me play Brzezinski and then we'll play
your Merkel clip when we set it up. Here's here's Brzezinski
about getting the EU leaders in line.
My sense is that the European public opinion is aroused. This
humanitarian issue is so tragic, so painful, so cruel. So current
so unnecessarily unnecessarily Europeans are beginning to be
moved. But each of the major European leaders has a role to
play. Chancellor Merkel has to face the fact that her
predecessor also a chancellor, was one of the creators of
Europe's dependence on Russian energy supplies.
right in line with Hillary Clinton.
Does Europe want to become a satellite? I think President
alarmed has to face the fact that he cannot now at this
moment sell some ships to Russia be sending advanced arms to help
Russia Prime Minister poquito fuck you frog. Cameron should
face the fact that the City of London has become a Las Vegas
for Russian financial transactions. With the hookers
that are self serving. There are responsibilities these leaders
have to face. And they have public opinions, which I think
are becoming increasingly aware that this is truly a moment of
decisive significance for the future and the system of the
world system.
That's right. Everybody has been blowing potent and you got to
stop now unless you want to be are you are you with us? Are you
with the bad guys? You can't have this
not you know, this is fine. You know that he says all this but I
think your original points that you made 10 minutes ago, which
is his didn't get the response that they hoped for. There is no
outrage in Europe. They're all like, you know, wringing their
hands and continuing business as usual. At currently Yes,
exactly. But this is this goal, of course is is key to all this
because she's buddies we always have to remember they met in it
and watch football game together. I
think I think still I think they do they play Petten games
actually.
Well, I don't think so. But it's possible. Whatever the case is,
they're down partying all the time. They speak to each other's
languages, and they're good pals. And so you end up after we
after everybody on our site jumps to conclusion. Merkel she
puts the kibosh on the whole thing with his little commentary
here when that's recorded on France 24.
I'm looking forward. i Oh, here we go. Okay.
It's been an Asian Airlines plane. Evidence indicates that
the plane was shot down by surface to air missile that was
launched from an area that is controlled by Russian backed
separatists inside of Ukraine. We know that the separatists
have received a steady flow of support from Russia.
Whilst the US president took a tough stance against Russia,
German Chancellor Angela Merkel held back pending further
investigation
was done soon. As it's regarding sanctions, I'd like to point out
that the events with the plane were not even 24 hours ago, and
at the moment, we need to sort out an independent
investigation. So it's perhaps premature to draw conclusions
before we have access to the remains of the plane.
Meanwhile, following a minute's silence of the chamber, the UN
Security Council demanded an inquest into the crash of Flight
MH, one seven.
Yeah. So let me just say, John, I'm only playing with the script
is I'm not saying that it's actually happening or that it's
rolling out this way. But this was, you know, I understand.
This is the only thing that they had left because it was not
working. No one cared. Now at least we have and they got to
hurry. Now something has to happen now because in three
days, you know, we already have hundreds of people dead in
Syria, you know, it's going to shift and no one will care. You
know, Miki, she's, my wife is so smart. She was in the, in the
tsunami, the Christmas tsunami of 2005, or six, whatever it
was, she was in Sri Lanka. And, and, you know, this is a very
horrible experience. And, you know, 1000s How many people died
in that 1000s 1000s and 1000s from all countries around the
world? And she says, you know, 10 days later, no one fucking
cared. No one talked about it anymore. You know, so, so they
gotta act. They gotta move. They gotta go fast, fast.
And by the way, we keep forgetting what this is really
all about.
Yes, Snowden. Gotcha. All right. Here's the last Brzezinski clip
and then I want more of a wind it up. This is what he basically
what he's saying. F Russia.
I would say that we're not starting the Cold War. He has
started it but he has gotten himself into a horrendous jam. I
stopped Long as I suspect that a lot of people in Russia, even
not far away from him, who are worried that Russia status in
the world is dramatically being undermined that Russia is
economically beginning to fail.
You hear now that she he's in line with Hillary, where we
started off with all the stock market is down. Oh, it's
failing. Yeah, it's all bad. It's horrible
that Russia is threatened by the prospect of becoming a satellite
to China.
I like that. That's what we want satellite to China that Russia
is
becoming self isolated and discredited. I think there is
still may be a chance that you can reverse course, we have to
emphasize adoption, and failing that, do what is necessary, and
at the same time trying to deal with the other problems on our
own if we can, what is the alternative to let war break
out? In Europe? Yes, Russia belong to the Baltic states from
new acts such as these can be ignored. Is that the choice?
Yes. That's the test the leadership?
Yes, yes, yes. I know what's gonna happen.
Okay, I, you okay. There's only there's
only one possible way. And it's kind of cool that the Dutch
just, you know, they finally had that court case settled about
the Dutch battalion and saying, yes, you know, they were
responsible for the death of at least 300 men in several
Nietzche. The Dutch bad Of course, part of the blue
helmets, the peacekeeping forces of the United Nations. This is
Bosnia Herzegovina, this is Serbia. This is this has blue
helmet peacekeepers written all over it. And if there's any
problems, just like Bill Clinton will send some missiles up your
ass. Some intercontinental ballistic missiles, cruise
missiles were the crew crew, I thought that oh, we just
launched those other ones.
And that is, and that is exactly what our president is good at. I
have two words for you. Predator drones. Exactly. So there'll be
drones because little easier now it's cheaper. We got those
things lined up and ready to go. That is the only outcome and
Russia will go along with it. By the way, I don't think they can
veto. A blue helmet force. I don't think the UN Security
Council I don't think the vetoes work that way. I'm a little
unclear.
Well, we can look that up. i All I know is that they've got you
know, Putin is like pretty cool. If you're uncertain. Putin is
very cool as a cucumber as it were, during this whole thing,
at least he seems so but he must be just seething. I must be
pissed. Because he's being set up. Of course, my theory is
because of Snowden. It wasn't for Snowden. None of this would
be happening. But it's just
I'm pretty sure that the gas has a little more to do with the
John Hillary Clinton has been talking about it since 1932.
No, you can think what you want.
Well, Joe, wind it up on a high note with a professor Cohn?
Yes, please put the argument now is the strategic argument is
that Putin can in this, this is preposterous. I mean, you're a
historian, I'm a historian. This is a profoundly complicated,
political, social. If tomorrow, Putin went on Russian and
Ukrainian television and said guys in eastern Ukraine, put
down your arms. You really think he would do it? Do you really
think they wouldn't add? Moreover, and this is the
salient point. At the end of June, France, Germany, our
allies, and Russia, asked the President of Ukraine to continue
the ceasefire. So that could be negotiations, the government of
Ukraine did not and intensify the war with the backing of
Washington. So we are deeply complicit in the horrors that
are going on there. Now, the light is maybe this tragedy will
bring about a ceasefire where people can talk again,
and we shall see. But it is true the only people who can stop
this are Kerry Kagan Nudelman crystal a whole ban until they
have what they want, which is complete control over all the
resources which gives them not only control over Russia's
financial pipeline, but control over Europe's electricity. They
will not rest until they have that and they will have the
United Nations blue helmet peacekeepers in there to protect
everything and make sure there's order and it will it will be
it's Bosnia Herzegovina it's the same tactic.
But I could have been a dry run for this. You have to say this
is pretty sophisticated. Pretty some pretty good. I would do
want to mention one more thing before we get before Use is
grabbed on. Yeah, I'm done. But I want to play one more thing
just to make sure that they they watch this reminders of this
this really funny play the they brought, they keep bringing this
up as kind of a as a sidebar, which is that we'll just blow
stuff out of the sky. We don't ever make any excuses for it.
The image the clip is the MH 17 previous incidents
on July 3 1988, an Iranian airliner with 290 people on
board and route from Turan to Dubai, but it was shot down over
the Persian Gulf by a missile fired from a US Navy ship. The
USS Vincenz had been exchanging gunfire with Iranian gunboats
that day, and mistakenly took the A 330 Airbus for an Iranian
fighter jet. And five years before that, in September 1983,
a Korean passenger plane with 269 on board was shot down by a
Russian fighter jet after it accidentally strayed into then
Soviet airspace. The Soviet government first denied
involvement.
Now, of course, they remind us about the thing we did with the
Iranian jet. But they're they they've decided to rewrite
history about that South Korean flight Yeah, and I'm noticing
this more and more where they brought they're bringing it back
into the storyline thrown it at the Russians again, when it's
been long since establish that that was a spy flight. Yeah,
illegally flying over Russia and Russia wasn't going to put up
when we get
that cool clip of Reagan. You know, that's that's what they
get to play over and over again.
And like the Reagan clip,
I don't have you have it now. Oh, crap. I don't have no I
don't have any. That's how you would have it. Like John will
have that don't worry about Yeah,
I didn't have it. And whatever the case is, I know. But they've
rewritten that that storyline. I mean, that was the original
storyline, of course, because it was fake, it was phony. And then
when they as things ever over time, Ted took about 10 years
before realize this, this was camera mounted on the plane, it
was gonna go take some pictures of of an installation. And so I
purposely went into Russia, assuming it wasn't gonna get
shot down because it had people on board which is the kind of
the situation we're seeing with Hamas and Palestine Well,
let me let me close the close the folder here closing that out
on on MH 17. And now we ought to do is just see how it plays out
that got a scramble, I think I'm pretty confident with with our
analysis of how this took place, and how it happened. And you're
right, I think Putin is gonna be really angry. Because he someone
could have seen this coming someone could have known based
upon those exercises some intelligence somewhere should
have said oh, she's speaker British Air and Air France knew
that well, they knew it was going to happen. Yes. They knew
something was going to happen. That's why they weren't flying.
Anyway, John, it wouldn't be targeted in the morning to you,
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I'm in deep trouble, John. Okay, good. And I'm not I got to share
this with you come in do somebody spoofing you? Well, you
know, I lived in Jersey, right. For many years. My daughter was
born in Georgia. Yeah. Do you have a Google alert set up for
yourself? No, I don't have her. And so I had I guess I set one
up a long time ago, but nothing ever comes through ever. A well
once in a while. There's some basketball player, some kid and
like, like a college player whose name is Adam curry. And
you know, and then the kids are awesome.
But that's about Amos Stefan curry out here in the world. But
Adam
curry. Okay, we're talking about Adam curry. Okay, so I get a
loan Google alert, yesterday. And here's I'd like you to go to
the Google's and I will give you and I want you to Google these
three words. Ready? Yeah. Adam curry heroin. Okay. And what do
you get? Why?
Oh, sorry. I'm on the I'm on a I'm on the I'm using the
are you on the repeater? I'm on the repeater on the D star but
he try New
Jersey brothers face gun drug charges. Yeah, that would be it.
It's Brian curry and Adam curry. Yes.
The brothers two brothers from Wayne, New Jersey arrested for
heroin, multiple gun and drug charges. I'm going to be on a
list. Probably you've been on a list before. It's just not good.
And it looks nothing like me.
Now they look like Hispanics.
But how I mean how does one Who names their kid Adam curry. This
is not good as me.
You are Adam curry. And you
wouldn't think there'd be a whole bunch of other Adam
Curry's roaming around.
They're probably starting to grow up now. So you were what
age when you were famous.
From my 19 through my.
What year was this? Let's go back that way.
I started in television in the Netherlands. And while I was
famous from the radio pirate radio No,
no, no, no, I'm talking about MTV United States famous MTV
famous 1987. Okay, so 1987. So if we add, say people Oh, Adam
Caruso? Gorgeous. Let's name our kid Adam curry in 1987. It would
have been born through probably 1987 to 1990. And that means
there are now 39 children. Yeah,
but here's here's what I don't get. So you have the last name
curry. Right. That's possible. Lots of people named curry,
Indian people. And, and then you you have a kid? And like, what
are we going to call them? I don't know. It's good to look at
some names. Let's call them Adam. Any other famous Adams?
That's what you go look for, wouldn't you?
That'd be you. Yeah, but it's Oh, it's exactly right in the
ballpark. Yeah. Oh,
that's great. Well named after the VJ. Who does that? Well,
apparently people who raise heroin. Thank you answered your
own question. Exactly. Meanwhile, Adam curry
physiotherapy. is a business. Yeah, okay.
We had one of our producers was in town yesterday. Okay, I think
it was rich Lightner I think Rich lightning Lightner I think
he's the guy who who donated for his grandson. But then he
screwed up the date
memory game a
fiasco it was well it was more of a fiasco because apparently
then after I read his note, which we're not supposed to
read, but it was so funny. And then we corrected his mistake
and then instead of calling the kid Harrison I called the kid
Harold Arason the kids for nice Harrison. We call them Harold
was like this daughter hates him nothing has died and it did run
away to Austin. Okay, well that's it. I don't think there's
anything else going on? Yes, there's
something Nachi something we're overlooking. Now, there's plenty
of stuff unfortunately need to be talking about PVS I've been
writing it down.
But I don't have all the articles handy but the here's
what it is really, really want to talk about this. I find it
kind of tedious and boring. But okay, we there are guidelines.
Do we put it in the book? Alright, so here I'm gonna
Google it right now. NPR under writer guidelines. Okay. These
are the guidelines talked about this. No, we talked about this
off the show off the show. Okay. And here's I have the PDF. The
guidelines for underwriting so when you hear support for this
program is brought to you by is provided by and then they're
only supposed to say the name of the underwriter but these days,
it's so much more like do they provide the best service but the
guidelines actually are. The underwriting credits must
contain this for NPR, the legal name of the underwriter to be
read immediately after the standard opening phrase support
for NPR comes from NPR member stations. And that's
interesting. I have to say member stations so we just go to
a a random NPR story and just listen to how they do their
support thing. Mr. Bobby,
you could do that. Okay, so
let me just find a random one. This is the Monty Python
reunions show I'm just grabbing a random story. Oh crap I don't
have it plugged in do I was okay well no it's not okay. This is
why I didn't want to do the story because I'm not ready for
it because the other we have no production elements.
Well, once you read the Why don't you read it? I don't have
it in front of me you have it right there you can google it
this is a one to one thing in there that got me was they're
not supposed to do an ad and it's not supposed to have call
for action. So I'm listening to Wait Wait Don't tell me which is
a show I listened to on the way to the post office on Saturdays
when I go get the mail. Do you have a clip? No. So I drive down
I'm just like moving it along since you want to get this story
out of the way and I didn't get a clip that's the real reason.
But whatever the case I'm listening and they have a one
800 number that they deliver. Well isn't that a call to action
when you give somebody a one 800 Number or even a weightless?
Listen
let's listen I have Wait Wait Don't tell me and this would be
the most recent one I presume. Let's see if they this is the
web so this is not really soured starts
prevent PR and web easy Chicago this is Wait Wait Don't tell me
the NPR News Quiz. I'm tender loving anchor Manville Curtis.
And here's your host.
They don't have a sponsor they're
well they're not giving them I maybe would be an it. It's not
on the web. I don't know when they do it whatever the case is,
they give a call to action with it from me. It just seems to me
they're abusing. It's not enough that they get free money from
the government and then they get corporations to give them the
money and then they beg for money. So credits
may also include the following non promotional value neutral
descriptions of organization products and services to non
promotional value neutral names of operating divisions and
subsidiaries organization mission language that identifies
and does not promote or state and opinion established slogans
verbatim that identify and do not promote non promotional
location information. So, they are allowed to use phone number
or website address duration of time and business and mention of
particular NPR programming supported credits may not
contain promotional language including qualitative language
which would be favorable qualities benefits and claim the
best that's right that is a do that well comparative language
like leader largest the only exclusive rank number one that
is not allowed price and value information not allowed.
inducement language reward programs warranty He's portions
of purchase donated to charity vehicle donation programs which
by the way I hear all the time on NPR holiday mentions related
to sales of products see this? I'm going to stop this because
this is this would be a good segment if I had some examples
of them
breaking now from now we'll work on examples I just wanted to
clear it off the deck
yeah and PBS is even more stringent so yeah, is a dumb
idea. Syria
Syria Yeah, why not? How is that more interesting?
Syria. Okay, you gonna be Syria you go then.
Oh, well, you know, you're gonna be flat footed. Thanks. Very
funny.
Screw it. Agenda 21. This was coming but certainly
controversial to Australia's Senate has voted to scrap the
country's tax on carbon emissions. The abolition of the
tax was one of the main pillars of Prime Minister Tony Abbott's
election campaign. Last year, Australia is one of the world's
biggest carbon emitters per head of population. And critics say
the move is a backward
step. And you voted to scrap the tax in September last year. And
today the parliament finally listened. Today the tax that you
voted to get rid of is finally gone. A useless destructive tax
which damaged jobs which hurt families cost of living and
which didn't actually help the environment is finally gone.
Well, there you go. In no time it is
possible. Yeah. That's pretty impressive. But the
the Australian public was always against that and they hated
what's her name for putting it in play? Because she promised
not to.
Yeah, she said no way and that Yeah. Good lord. Good lord. Good
Lord. And then she face planted herself. Remember that? That was
cool. I was the funniest. I have.
I won't do a historical thing. Okay. You remember when we first
picked up on the 33 meme? Oh, my goodness.
No, I don't long time.
Well, it has to be after 2009 Because here's a clip from the
show in 2009. And you'll see why obviously, we had not picked up
on it yet. But it's funny how it itched its way in anyway.
And and it's just loud. It's just just loud music. And yeah,
there's all kinds of cool people around the lights are dim. And
then you have to go and then there's two elevator banks. If
you're going to the 33rd floor then you have to walk around the
original elevator bank and get on there. If not, you have to go
around and bind that elevator bat elevator bank to another
elevator bank until you finally get up to your room. What I
don't remember this story at all.
You were talking about your stay at the W Hotel in New York. You
were in New York at the time of this podcast. And you were
bitching about the 33rd floor being where you have to change
elevators and you never said anything about 33 and I have to
assume now that the 33 meme that we picked up on came came after
that okay, that makes sense. How did you did it now? You didn't
actually go through the archives of all of our shows. Did
you I am going through the archives of a set of shows. No
you're not yes I am
taking me a while I'm going through this board I mean do you
have time on your hands? Only for shows that I'm looking at do
you have the mumps or measles and you have nothing better I'm
looking for
now get you if you want to fair warning Israeli moon base
no way you cannot find it I said Moon bases I said space
elevators but I never said Israeli ma'am
I can I go look yeah, you are you archive this lot of cool
stuff that you have obviously you're gonna forget most of this
because this was 2009
Episode one what is the episode number
I don't not gonna say because I don't want you isolating this
and then somehow screwing with the archives.
It's episode 133 good event
there's another 33 Interesting do we get other kind of funny
stuff from this episode trip play my favorite one was
what are we doing retrospectives?
Oh God. Okay, this is okay, I'll just play the I have two of
these only play one. This is the best clip algae
the old the old the best clip
okay this Yes. I was looking for a T got it. Just blank we're
doing here with the folder General Motors with the the new
battery storage the hybrids. We drove on a car the other day.
Congressman Inslee in Israel and I drove went from California to
Washington DC. Remember this on algae? On algae. You know how
you grow the algae, you pump a bunch of co2 in it, and it grows
the algae. So here you have an opportunity to learn to make
cars that run on algae, grow the algae in places like Ohio that,
unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, at some point, give
off all this co2, grow the algae, put it in cars, and we
have a clean economy. We are completely safe.
That's right. And my car, I'm gonna go fill up on some algae
right after the show.
Anyway, this show this show we're doing here I want to
remind people is filled with this sort of thing. Non stop. We
do have been doing it for seven years, and we have nothing but
clips like this. And when you go back and listen to it, even
though that I think the old shows you shouldn't be listening
to. But I just want to remind the algae story. That's what
happened. That's 92,009 We should everything should have
been fixed by now.
It should be running on algae. It wasn't it wasn't that Bill
Gates. Who was that again? I forget. No, no,
that was I forgot who it was. But he was he was some identity
problem is I don't have the red book in front of me to go down
to sometimes identifications in the book. Right. But it was some
guy who had been floating around some congressmen and they were
gonna fix everything. And they came with his algae car. I
remember and by the way, the stock that was mentioned, he
wrote
me buddy drove with somebody
and drove with some congressmen, right. Coast to coast.
That's hilarious. Anyway, that's it. Yeah. That you know what?
Carry on. Good work.
Yes. Well, I'll probably have another one of these. As I go
through it. You know, it's tedious to listen to the show.
For me, I did this show. This is the problem. When you do a show
to go listen to the show. And then you get it. You find the
certain annoyances that we're calling you back. Yeah, yeah, I
have five years ago. And then you go, Ah,
I find I can barely listen to myself. Even right after the
show, just editing. I have a problem with it. Yeah, and then
No, it's It's people don't really understand. It's very
annoying.
It's annoying and difficult. Yeah. Because you know what's
coming. And back back then in 2009, when we were doing the
show, yeah, there was a leg that we had blatancy issues.
Oh, crap. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And you would have to time all your
jokes differently. And then once when we solve the latency issue,
then all your jokes suck, because you are still on the
lag.
Exactly. You notice, oh, by the way,
a correction I would like or not correction, a confirmation. And,
actually, I need to numb number of people sent this to me, that
it was indeed, Harry Reid,
who spoke of the five white men who had who did the for the
Hobby Lobby case, here it is, you know,
we have so much to do this month. But the one thing we're
going to do during this work period, sooner rather than
later, is to ensure that women's lives are not determined by
virtue of five white men.
And indeed, Clarence Thomas is very confused. Because I looked
at the at the opinion from the New York Times the paper record,
and it was for white guys and one black guy, not five white
guys.
Yeah. Well, there you have it. So Harry, we read doesn't know
what he's talking about. I have an email I have to read. Because
I have to discuss this with you. Okay. This came in from a guy
who is a mic See, bitching about the harmonica not bitching about
my playing the harmonica harmonica
as an instrument in general or No, no,
here's what he says. And this is what concern me Okay. Would you
please consider retiring the harmonica from the show? And
this is the reason is not because I suck at it. But okay,
it is painfully loud. I listened to the show on my commute using
earbuds which is illegal in most states, I might add, you
shouldn't be less you should be listening to your speakers, and
frequently at highway speeds. So he's got a turned way up. I want
to keep listening to the show, but I don't want to suffer
hearing damage in the process. Okay. Now, are we just a
harmonica coming in over mic two? What's the deal because I'm
up against a mic playing well,
let me answer this. Do you know when sometimes we have a
technical issue and or you know something's not working? I'm
trying to fix it and then you will sometimes play the
harmonica and then I usually wind up saying stuff I can go
into that and something like that. Yeah, that's what you
usually do. It's because the sound of the harmonica is so
piercing and I think if you could, can you do like a Stevie
Wonder or Ray Charles thing with your hand? Well, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, like that. Little bit of like a cover up. I need
you need to back off.
Like I'll wait for the mic right back off. How about pointing the
harmonica sound board away from
life? Anything anything? Anything,
please It's me. This guy hates me obviously and let me read on
all right. Oh, there's more. Oh boy, I did he go he's got the
harmonica thing out of the way his bitch about the harmonica is
done. So he says he's decided he's got the email and might
have my attention which he did. So he decides to complain more.
Oh, so he says
this guy donate or?
I don't know. I doubt I think he did. Okay, I can't I don't have
his number fine. Also, I don't know if it should stick with
showbiz talk there. But you are quite insultingly dismissive of
Adam at times. Clearly this isn't a problem to Adam says
flip the page or he would have said something to you about it.
Is this. Is this a letter or an email because you flip any page
as you printed it out?
Yes. Okay. But to a producer like me, so he does contribute.
You come off as a complete dick. I thought you were supposed to
be the Buzzkill. Not the asshole.
Can I comment?
Then he goes, these are my only two complaints. And aside from
those two points, I have this show I look forward to this
great show. Anyway,
so first of all, thank you for your, for your courage of
writing that letter to young. No, in fact, I was having so we
had our producer rich and his buddy Jim in town yesterday and
they actually they snuck up on us at the market. We were back
at the awesome market doing our groceries. And I hear in in the
morning, like okay in the morning and it's funny, Mickey
immediately felt very drawn. Oh, this these are good guys should
have coffee with him. And Rich and Jim are both professors,
both lawyers and they are librarians and I think Rich runs
the legal library in the University of Lincoln, Nebraska.
And Jim runs the legal library in the University of Virginia
was it what's a college they're University
of Virginia? No no no different Richmond University of Richmond
home
No, it's like boys and girls will will and Smith or
something.
Oh well let me William and Mary William and Mary Yes.
So these are these like these like educated dudes right? And
dudes and oh, that's cool. Because you know I'm I'm a law
group because oh yes. And by the way 80% of the time you're right
on the money, which is a huge compliment of course, for me
just being like a groupie of law. And and you know, and rich
Jim's not a listener not yet but riches. And he is he loves you.
He's like, Oh man, I used to I would buy every magazine John
wrote in back when hard drives are made of wood. And sometimes
I throw the magazine out when even read the rest only read
John's column but he said he said what you guys have is some
magical formula. And it's true which only happens once the
second time in my lifetime. I had a radio partner in the early
80s ad before yeah gone on and on does exactly so you're being
dismissive this is exactly what Yes, exactly what exactly what
was it that
was being a dismissive dick and because I've heard this story so
many times
and what is interesting is I actually need that in a partner.
I need someone to be dismissed.
Yeah, no, I let me just say this. I do too. I even though I
as a writer, you can't read I have co written with people and
I can do it. I don't mind doing it. And I like collaboration
I've always been good at it I like working that's why I like
working in media because most media works better with
collaboration two guys working together even though you have to
split the money to win by the way
I think about that all the time to see if only that fucking guy
was dead all the money would be mine.
Yes this is a problem but it's definitely in fact a product
make twice as much essentially just fell over don't really
split the money you get twice
and then there's the deep the deep honesty that you have. Well
this is what people don't understand. This program is no
good without that. Told that here's here's an even real life
I had to learn this about John. It takes you to it takes a
minute you get booed. Luckily we have a whole country between us
and Skype connections. I'd had to beat him in the face
sometimes. But you'll say this stupid like, you know making our
really in love and we feel a whole soulmates you so stupid.
This is what this John, but it's important for the program we'd
never get anywhere. Otherwise it's all just fluff. What do you
want two people jerking each other off. We are the Lennon and
McCartney, podcasting people. We are the Simon and Garfunkel of
radio. But also,
that was one way of looking at it. So I had two encounters. Now
that you mentioned go in the morning thing. I had one in the
post office on yesterday, a guy catches me opening the mailbox
and you know, we gave it in the morning. He says,
Hey, was he wearing American flag patches?
I just looked like some guy from the area. Okay. But he, you
know, was apparently a listener. But then the other one, which
was last week, I went to Fry's. Yeah. And a guy. Indian. I might
ask, Oh, yeah. You are talking about me being? Yeah, well, he
didn't have an Indian accent, which I couldn't talk that but
he said, You are you are you. You know one of those. John, I
love your stuff. I love the no agenda show. And so meanwhile,
Eric does Sheila's shows my daughter, Eric, of course, every
time this happens, he is talking about rolling your eyes. Right,
right. And then he's like, got that look on his face. And he's
just rolling his eyes. How
about Jay does she go oh, God, someone someone actually cares
about my dad. Oh, my God, I'm horrified. It's like die. Like I
like the earth to open up and I'd like to fall into a hole
right now.
She doesn't really know. She's pretty cool. She's gotten over
that. Okay. But But anyway, so So this guy is going on and on.
And then I said, I said, I said, I said you're you get irked by
Mike and hounding the Indians in India, mostly for being cheap
skates. Yes. And he says, oh, yeah, that's right. You do that?
I said, but you're an American. You're an Indian. It's American
Indian, or Indian American. So you wouldn't count in that
complaint? Is Oh, yeah, yeah, that's good. And then I said,
what you really got Eric going? I said, Show, can we get a
discount?
Excellent.
Good. The guy says, The guy says, I never got his name. The
guy says, No, I Oh, wait, no, there is an employee discount?
Oh, no, wait, there's all the products that fries apparently
some of them are discountable on the spot. And I think those are
the ones that they have on Amazon that are cheaper because
they price claims to be able to match prices. Oh, oh, that's
great. So we went to get something I said, Give me you
have a card. He says, oh, no, I'll go get it back. Go Go get
it. And then I said, and I'll get you the discount. And then
he just disappeared from the face and never came back. Just
gone.
Is this our tech segment? Is it? No, I think so. Is there? Is
there a new phone out?
Let me think. No,
no. Then there's no tech news, Dan. No tech jam it. Although I
did find out something cool yesterday. Cool. Wow, cool.
Interesting. Okay, so we're in
the new house. So I have a theme for this tech segment.
We need a jingle. Yes, please. And it has to contain the
following elements. Is there a new phone out? No. There's no
tech news. That's basically it. Although I was reading Mike
alguns, Google Plus posts and there's a huge problem with the
wearables.
Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, no. The wearable
apparently doesn't know when you're in the movie theater. And
it lights up all the time. So he's got his watch and he's
like, beaming all this light and couldn't turn it to put his
watch in his pocket.
A solution to this that's easier than the watch in the pocket.
Don't wear the stupid watch size that that's number one. But
number two
gaffer tape. It's your go to thing gaffer tape.
gaffers tape is the greatest product ever invented really?
You
can fix a broken limb with gaffer tape. You could Yeah,
it's like you got a bullet one gaffer tape that you got. You
got to I got rear ended the other day.
Did you fix the good bumper with gaffers tape I
have to because you know so I'm turning left here I'm on the new
go into the house where the in the early in the morning because
the Time Warner guys come in and it just rain and when it just
rains in Texas is just like it rained in California. You know
what's going to happen? It people slide around. Yep. And so
I'm waiting to go left. I'm in the left hand lane click click
click click and then and of course I have my foot on the
brake and it was a pretty good one. I feel ASO crapped on ran
into me. So I hop out. And the first thing I always say is Are
you okay, man? I said and I'm looking at myself. I'm okay. You
know, I'm a you okay? And this car is destroyed. I mean, it's a
little Toyota thing. It's an old like 2000 The hood is you know,
like, pop tent. There's fluid leaking. And to Mexican top out.
I'll say it. And it's funny because I told my guy here is
Mexicans, is he Oh, And I look into my rear bumper is is, I
mean now it's not It's dented his truck, you know, so it's not
horrible, but it's ugly now. And the left tailpipe, the connector
is broken. And I'm like, oh, it's all man, I can fix this for
you I can come I said wait a minute, says I got no insurance
like okay, he says, I just bought the car and all I got is
$200 you got $20 cash? Yeah, I'll take it. I took $200 off of
them. It's good. You're right. Yeah, cash get out of here.
Anyway, I wasn't gonna say, Oh, yeah. So now the only thing we
had to do is hang up the TV. And I can do a lot of things. But
I'm really not good with the stud finder. And the and just
the brackets isn't this is not what I do.
Right? You have to find a stud to hang up a TV. Yeah, and you
know, and it's the TV that we got from David Foley. It's the
50 inch for a big TV. So if you know it's gotta hang it up.
Not a big heavy one, though. You know, some of some of these sets
are really heavy.
You got to do that. You gotta make it straight. And of course,
if you
buy one of those bracket things that holds the GPA, I got the
bracket thing and everyone moves it around
around all that and there's a hole and there's actual cable
hole in the wall that cute so you won't have any cables drop
an eye. Yeah. And put you know, I'm not going to do this. So and
then Mickey's on my case. He's like, okay, everything's done
now, except for the TV and like, Oh, shit. Yeah. So what do you
do?
I put it on a table. No,
I figure I called Geek Squad. Oh God, but I google Geek Squad
Austin and up pops Geka to what? Yeah, these guys have SEO Geek
Squad. Geka to like cockatoos shield the good. Yeah. So you
get in the end if you if you Google Geek Squad, it says geek
get to 75% cheaper than Geek Squad. I'm like, yeah. Nice. And
yeah. And a dude named Ben came by and like 100 bucks or
something and spent some time did everything perfect. Perfect.
Geka to never heard of them is a stupid name. But I liked the
whole SEO thing where you I went for Geek Squad and and also and
I was talking to the guy his name is Chris Beard. And oh,
yeah, he had a beard. And he's talking about, you know how Geek
Squad pays that guy's 12 bucks an hour. But geeky too. He says
90% of the fee comes to the to the guy who's doing the work and
they basically just paying like a commission. Oh, yes, yes. And
he brought his little his little helper and everything. So it was
cool. I was very impressed. And that's your tech news. No other
news. Now. I have to give you some mad as props.
Oh, this is weird.
Mad. Oh, hold on a second. Mickey. That's not Yes. She's
mad now because she thinks I did her voice which sucked.
When did you do her voice just a minute
ago apparently like I said, you know, honey, we have to do a
little bit TV. All right. It wasn't
that bad. I didn't think so neither Mimi gets really are
going to do her voice.
I'm sorry. I didn't I say she looked hot in our black hot
pants and now I and I don't get any Oh Thanks, honey sexist
Yeah, I should have gotten you sexist pig mad props for you my
friend you call that you call it early you call loud you call it
correctly you are on you are the the the mack daddy the bomb
diggity of calling Pocahontas Liz Warren as the as the
candidate Holy crap. I mean, holy crap. I got two clips here
which are long in nature but oh my God, John, how did you know
this? Are you on some committee or something? Making banking on
some secret ballot committee.
This was this was I started walking down Broadway.
Have you heard the runways? All I've been
very good at picking candidates. You are extremely active Sarah
Palin and before I ever heard her Yeah. Which was the mystery
Did
you did you did that I still picked her Have you seen or
heard the run Liz run song?
Oh no.
American Onyx president to be a woman. Hey babe is looking at US
Senator Elizabeth Warren. The planet is warming in the power
shift. We need a leader who will stand for Wall Street bullshit
the lobbyists grifting. Gotta run the office and get the job
done. Media President President TV Did
you shoot straight until the truth that we've been chipped,
squeezed and hammer? People think that the system is rigged
because it is. And it's definitely stand out.
How good is this? And there's pictures of people with those
silly election hats. That's a run. You know, Warren for
president and there's a lot of people do and this is Big John,
this is big, big, big. There's money here. And she had I'm
sorry.
Well, she does have one of the best campaign fundraising
organizations.
He was at this this came in late last night that I saw it. This
is by the way, it's all under the heading Hillary 2016. She
was at the Netroots Nation. You familiar with this? Oh, yeah.
Every year this thing happened. What is it? What is this thing
this net? You
know, I usually watch it online is a hit the ninth annual
gathering. It's usually in New York where it was it was a
Detroit. Okay. Oh, we're
even betting Oh, court. Detroit is where you want this all the
people are? Water
cheaper? Yeah, cheaper, is a it's cheaper. It's cheaper. It's
where a bunch of online Democrats mostly go and grouse
and for, you know, say what they're going to do and, and
they all get all jacked up about certain, you know, grassroots
things issues. Well, okay, issues. So I think it was
grassroots
Elizabeth Warren. I think she, this was her speech. This was
the one Oh, she gave the speech. She gave the speech. Now,
President Barack Obama had hope and change.
Right. And he actually gave his speech in 2004. At the
convention, and then he was the elected president in 2008. So
his speech was by now when I saw his speech, by the way, I did
the same thing in 2004. I said, this is the next. The next
candidate probably the next president, this
This speech is the candidate speech. And by the way, when
Dave Weiner tweets that he wanted that he'll vote for
Elizabeth Warren Warren, then I know that
Oh, Vic. Yeah, yeah. Then I know, we're all hook line and
sinker guy the
way that is tech news. Huh? That's a whiner. Dave Winer
said, I will vote for Elizabeth Warren. That is tech news now.
And he will this is the we believe speech. We believe it's
rather long, but I feel it is worth it.
Because it gets boring. I'll tell you, of course
you will. But you're going to love it because she just imagine
this. So this is the meeting, we're going to take every single
issue, everything. And we're just going to say what people
want to hear by saying we believe that. So I'll give you
an example. We believe that children should not be smuggled
across the border, but they should be helped and integrated
with the path to citizenship. Exam, we believe that Putin
should be shut up. We believe let's let's take it home and
take it to a local level. We believe that all package should
be equal.
Could I could I ask a question? Please do? Does she have a mouse
in her pocket? Who's the way? Is it the royal way?
Oh, it's the progressives. She says it's time for real
progressive issues. Should we just play and
play play play?
We have to talk about what does it mean to be a progressive? We
have to talk about what does it mean to be an American? So let's
spend a minute talking about what we believe. We believe that
Wall Street needs tough, stronger rules and tougher
enforcement and we're willing to fight for it. We're willing to
fight for it. We believe in science, and that means that we
have a responsibility and we will fight for it.
I was my favorite that.
sighs it a faith thing. What
if no Yeah, no, that's it. That is a that is so heavy. What she
just said. We believe in science IE, fuck religion. Yeah, no, of
course it's global warming. But we don't we won't stand for
morons who believe in God or any other faith. We believe in
science. Science is your religion is this woman is
dangerous, tougher enforcement and we're willing to fight for
it. Let's listen to willing to fight for it.
She scares me.
We believe in science. And that means that we have a
responsibility to protect So we will fight for it. Oh man.
Don't you love that? How everyone's going crazy? Fuck
your science signs.
You know, the funny thing is you went out and quizzed anybody in
that audience about just the simplest things like, you know
what, two atoms are in sodium chloride, which would be sodium
and chlorine. They wouldn't get be able to answer it that you
could do audiences most of these people that are promoting
science and talking about science talking a big game about
science, they don't know anything. They're not complete
morons. They know nothing. Anyway, play play it out and let
it go for a minute.
Hold on a second here we go.
We believe that the internet shouldn't be rigged to benefit
big corporations. Real Net Neutrality. We will fight for
he will fight for now. I'm hooked. Now I'm like, we're all
gonna die. This woman is going to kill all of us. We want. We
want the government to regulate the interwebs
we believe that no one should work full time and still live in
poverty. That means raising the minimum wage and we will fight
for it. Oh, my God, fight for it.
I mean, you if you put all everything in a bucket, this is
it. Right? She's saying just like me, I was like, You got a
bunch of horny, guys. I'll give you hookers with big tents. And
we're gonna put in the bull job, the will fight for it everything
you hit. All the way BJ all the way.
And let me add to that, Oh, please. We believe that fast
food workers deserve a livable wage. And that means when they
take to the picket line, we are proud to fight alongside them.
Because we want McDonald's
to bed, we believe that students are entitled to get an education
without being crushed by debt. And we are willing to fight for
it free school willing, free.
Free Nelson Mandela, we
believe that after a lifetime of work, people aren't entitled to
retire with dignity. And that means protecting Social
Security, Medicare and pensions. Oh, yeah, we'll fight for them.
Good slaves fight.
I mean, this is this is I'm running for president speech,
John. Yeah. This is great.
Yeah, you're not bored yet? Oh, yeah. And I mean, but it's you
know, it's now pretty much checklist crap
is good, but it's I love the honor of much
of a populist. He's actually out flanking Hillary because Hillary
is the is
to say the water man dead in the water. No, I
know that. But she is the sage secretary of state that has the
chops to deal understand the world stage in ways that
Brzezinski does. But American public doesn't give a crap no,
this is a give a crap about this. But the Warrens this talk
will not talk about boring stuff. foreign policies. Whoa,
well, the knee jerk snow
Oh, oh, we believe Yeah, we do, baby. Oh, I can't believe I have
to say this. 2014 Oh, yeah. We believe in equal pay for equal
work. To fight for it.
That's right. That's right. As a broad i is good. Yep. Yep. Does
a lot of Yo,
get out of it. I love it for that. Yep. Yep. Yep. All right.
We believe that equal means equal. And that's true in
marriage. It's true in the workplace. True in all of
America. We're willing to fight Murca
and we're willing to fight for it. You bet. You bet. Who's
gonna pay for this? That's why the who's gonna pay this is
interesting.
Like we believe that immigration has made this country strong and
vibrant and that means warm and we are willing to fight. Yes.
Hell yeah.
Was audiences going nuts? Yeah.
They love it. She is it? almost over? Oh, I love it. Oh, it's
orgasmic and
we believe we believe that corporations are not people that
women have a right to their bodies. We will overturn the
lobby.
Supreme Court fight screwed the Supreme Court and Hobby Lobby
screw the Supreme Court we're gonna overturn it.
What's there to overturn this foolish shit?
Well, she's your girl, man. I know. Almost
right here, in this room. Right here in this room. This is where
it happens. This is 21st century democracy. This is the future of
America. This is where we decide that we the people will fight
for what we believe in. We're gonna do this together and we're
gonna win. Win
Yes, we can. And we're gonna win. She
says, she we're gonna win. She says, I'm a little shrill there.
I'm impressed. I'm impressed. This will be hard to beat.
Yep. eatable little but no, but the Republicans won't beat it.
Because everybody knows this is we're in the four years period
where you really don't want to do whoever wins that selection
is going to be one term and out. Show screw it up. She asked her
because this part is she's the Jimmy Carter. This is the Jimmy
Carter moment. The last four years and the 30 year site for
CMC
one term Jimmy Carter Yes, one term and then who came in after
the Reagan
Reagan and then things changed and everybody thought the
Democrats never get back in again. That's exactly what we're
gonna see she's gonna win. And we're gonna have our woman
president and she's going to be such a screw up really gonna be
such a screw up that everyone's going to be so fed up with the
Democrat Party and the progressives in general, that
they'll roster and then some somebody then we'll get in, but
who,
you know, the only thing that I'm really sad about, about this
digital age of of the internet and everything. And this was a
conversation we're having this morning, when times were bad,
and I remember certainly, in my lifetime, but nothing really
like the 60s, I think when we had a lot of stuff going down,
we you know, we had racial riots. We had, you know,
political things going on
National Guard, shooting kids protesting stuff like that.
And of course, now we have, you know, a Russian, you know,
Russian pro Russian separatist insurgents shooting down
civilians, we have President droning people we have, you
know, cops dressed like, not like cops anymore, but like, you
know, SWAT teams and militant militarization. And back in the
day, we had the art and music and, and writing. It was it was
a real expression of how people were feeling and how they were
thinking, you know, it's how we got Bob Dylan, just as one small
example. But now with with the with the technology in the
computerization, and the application of an entire
generation, which is not intended to create these are not
tools to create it are tools to swipe and tap and gesture. But
not you know, who's who writes a novel, The Who, who's going to
write a novel on an iPad on a virtual keyboard. And all of the
stuff that is created is just in the cloud on Facebook and not
even all of your friends see it. We have zero culture coming out.
No physical assets, nothing being made. That's why no one is
sitting down
at and on top of that as JC buzzkill Jr would point out
because he would be in agreement with this is
thank goodness, I mean, of course we do have some kids who
are awake but they're not the majority.
And he says that it's 75% of the same group is strung out on
Ritalin or
I forgotten that Oh, yes, I'm sorry. We used to be we used to
get high on a little bit Hey, man, let's talk some weed or
maybe we dropped some acid or something like that. And now
it's it's pharmaceuticals that you're seven years old. Oh, no,
no, no, I'm sorry. You You got to wear the helmet when you go
out to play and then your whole your your little business class
you get your Ritalin you get all the drugs. It's a nice I'm very
that is what I'm actually very sad about. You know, where is
there's no beauty in the world? No one's making any what Jay Z?
Is he our Bob Dylan?
You know, it's pretty pathetic.
Yeah, it is. It's super pathetic. And and what do we
have? We have? Absolutely it's there's nothing and I don't
know, I don't know. where's it gonna go? What is gonna happen?
Do you I mean, is there a cycle for this as well. We've never
seen this in world history where everything is virtual.
Now here's the problem with the cycle if you're going to bring
me into this because I've always harping on it. We should be in
the middle of an extremely creative period. Yes, this is
because this would reflect the 1970s. And if anyone ever talks
about the movies in 1970 in the 1970s the movies were very
experimental and old movie hacks like people like Peters John
guber, or these guys they talk about the 70s ending with the
80s with them where everything became for me formulaic and the
studio system changed and now we have mostly CG but there should
be a lot of experimental stuff going on now a lot of
experimental music like in the 30s when what was called Jazz
which is dance music was so popular and in the 70s a jazz in
terms of dance music dancers it was extremely popular because it
began with the psychedelic scene and and all these clubs that
Fillmore in places like that, I don't know maybe there is
something I don't think it's Coachella right
it's not South by and I'll tell you that. So right even Burning
Man is bullshit. Now, you know, Bernie, yeah. Yeah,
well, actually burning man would be a representative of the
experimentation but it's not supposed to. It just doesn't
seem as interesting. Well,
actually, I have to say, I've never been to Burning Man so
that is not fair of me to condemn it but I see too many
you know, hipster types now go Burning Man. The I think it's
kind of ruined, but it has to go much further than that. And to
me the problem really is technology. I hate to sound like
the Unabomber. But it really it has brought us nothing. The tool
tools are so poor for creation. They're so poor it's all
consumption. Just look at your your internet up and downlink.
That tells you enough right there. And who gives a crap
about uplink it's all downlink. downlink, get your Netflix
downlink. And we should be, we should have an A beautiful
explosion. And I do get this from you. From talks we've had,
we should have this explosion of creativity of fantastic
beautiful things that are representative of how people are
feeling. And instead somehow, we have if we if we bitch on
Twitter for a second for over 140 characters, or post
something as sad oh, rip on Facebook, then we're done. And
we'll like everyone else who did it. And then we're done. You
know, it's too it's become so easy to participate in something
and change your icon or your avatar. Okay, feel better. But
that's, that's so poor. It's there's no richness in it.
I think there. I think it exists. Because when I went to
last years, I was gonna go this shirt, but I didn't manage it. I
went to the Adobe, they have this big conference in Los
Angeles. And I went there. And they, one of the things they do
between speakers, is that they flash up a lot of art that Adobe
users have created, right? And it's some of it is so advanced
and spectacular sure that you look these guys up and you just
see pages after pages of some outrageous quality, creative
stuff. But for some reason it is it is stuck. Yeah, it doesn't
get I mean, when with the during the 60s and 70s, the Paisley's
and the bright colors and the long hair and all this stuff was
in the public domain. And it was affecting everybody where you
have they get a haircut. And by
the way, that's another thing that has affected us is the
copyright laws and the ability to to take and change and modify
and morph and mix and that's become very restrictive. I feel
I think that the copyright laws, although it should be a great
benefit. It's just it's it's not it's not
Yeah, well, I'm in total agreement about this.
I'm mad about it. Actually, it sucks. Quite honestly, the we're
a little bit of creativity a little bit. I think the artists
who participate and there's a lot of beautiful stuff that that
shows up there. I'm glad it's all in one place, but almost
like no one to that server goes away. We need some physical shit
boy, we need some physical stuff. We really do.
Surfer goes away. Yeah, well, that's true keeping gun.
I mean, what when we die, John and I got news for newsflash.
It's gonna happen. Yeah, maybe somewhere on a hard drive some
place there'll be a show somewhere that someone heard of
these guys, but really will be erased. They'll be nothing.
Well, no
a lot of stuff gets well you have boards I mean, you you'll
you'll have IDs and right but you don't have you know stuff
written on a stone tablet. But a lot of stuff is just
disappearing. I mean, this is a problem with all media. I mean,
most of Milton Berle shows were all destroyed right a lot of
most at Caesars stuff, which is some of the best television ever
produced ever. Right? All be some of the strongest writers in
the country gone. Now. How does Why wasn't this before our era?
Yeah, and by the way when I was over Tech TV, and even before
that at CNET I had actually, cuz I did a bunch of shows on see at
CNET I took all the tapes. They were in a box. And then one day
I was walking around the office, it's at Tech TV, and there was
all my shows in a big box giant box. And they were on digital.
So there's a little mentioned this before. Yeah, yeah. And I
looked, I said, What's this always go? We're gonna throw it
out. What? So I don't even ask me if I wanted to take it home.
I took it home.
So I have I have u Matic tapes for my TV, CNET stuff as you
matter, you ematic right. high band see. But I also you know,
we did a reality show about my family. And I have that on DVD.
But I also have hundreds of raw footage. Just videotape which is
the eight the what are the little DV cam? Yeah, you know,
and I and I'm holding on to that, but I don't have a DV cam
player anymore.
I have to say there's a lot process eight millimeter two,
there was a there's a lot of these medias days. It's called
Dead media. Yeah.
Dead for media.
I mean, right now there's a scramble. I have
videotapes of my daughter VHS.
Well, you can move that to DVD for at least now. Yeah, but
there's a mad scramble in that media world. Because the
original videotape
is its word and it's a European. Powell.
Well, that's just that. Oh, she's I don't know what you're
gonna do. Exactly. Anyway, the the original videotapes that
went in the 60s when they first appeared was an Ampex unit. That
was a two inch tape.
Yeah, no four inch before that the four inches is a four
inches, four, and yet the four inch and then the two inch and
whatever the two inch is called BNC.
Okay, there's a big tape, a big real big tape. And it's got a
rotating head on the player that goes horizontally. It's not It's
nothing. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, it just goes flying around. And
there's only about three of these machines left that work.
Yeah. And they are taking every tape they can they can find in
these archives, and trying to move them out before this, this
equipment just stops working. They figured they're never
there's going to be ever hundreds of tapes lost because
of the technology. They just won't be able to plan because
there won't be no, there'll be one machine left and maybe the
you know, the guy won't be able to jazz to be done in real time.
It's a two hour two hour tape. You it takes an hour
to copy it. But anyway, so what we need, we are going to be lost
kids like buzzkill Jr. and my daughter, you know, I just
encourage them to make some physical things I'd like that's
why I love the maker stuff. I think that's really nice. Even
if it's 3d printed, you know, that's all that's all very valid
and really nice. And I tell Mickey all the time as if you're
making beautiful things, and it's not just a photo that
you've done. I mean, it's the paper you printed on and she
spent a lot of time really, you know, with contrast and contours
and then the frame and the type of glass and these are beautiful
objects that we need. And we've got none of that we got shit. We
got Cameron Diaz movie, I watch the other night. That's an hour
and a half of my life. I could have just killed myself, Cameron
Diaz, who I love the other, the other woman or whatever. I mean,
Hollywood movies or shit is so bad. It's so we need you, right?
We need new cinema. And we have all the capabilities but where
are the creators? What are they doing this in the home of
Facebook? I don't know what they're doing is bad. And I'm
sorry,
Facebook, Facebook.
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I got the story of the week. Not the plane coming down story of
the week. Yeah. Fake TSA clip, fake TSA.
affair. That's gonna fear I had that too. You're gonna take away
in the clip with the day.
Well tonight we're learning a man accused of impersonating TSA
agents and groping passengers at SFO is a successful
international banker.
Wait a minute. I hadn't heard this part of the story.
The real TSA agents we sent to Brian Webb to find out Brian.
Well, I've been bouncing back and forth between agencies all
day trying to get some answers each one telling me to talk to
the other. Finally today the sheriff's office tells us the
deputies came out to SFO Tuesday night on reports of a drunk and
disruptive man who's now accused of giving new meaning to the
phrase flying the friendly skies.
Inside the International Terminal at SFO, a TSA imposter
is accused of an X rated security pat down behind closed
doors. Yeah, yeah, I had
the second part you get the guy's name and you can look him
up. He's like a vice president. So I'm a big fan of that.
We're learning the alleged groper 53 year old Eric Slayton
is an international investment mogul Eric Slayton.
Yes, I get it look him up again.
Let me play I had a version of this, which was here's my
version I liked the groper part,
and suspected of having one too many drinks post as an airport
screener at SFO yesterday. Authorities say he wore to
unsuspecting women, both foreigners into a private booth
for pat downs. Staffers spotted him and called police. So how
did he pull it off? Here's what I found out. The man was a
ticketed passenger that went through the security checkpoint.
He went to an airport lounge and spent a few hours drinking and
that's when the trouble began. He may have swiped plastic blue
gloves to look the part. The 53 year old then returned to the
screening area and convinced a passenger who had already been
screened to go to a private booth. What happened inside
isn't exactly clear because she disappeared to catch her flight.
But minutes later he did it again. And this time security
screeners took notice.
I love this. This is great. Eric slight n s li gh t o n of the
actus group and Singapore hedge fund guy Dick Yeah, it's
a big dick kind of thing.
Yeah, well that's kind of funny lady all you have to do is just
have those blue gloves and people buy it I think
that's he had the gloves appear on the show today. He had the he
had this right same color shirt. He wore the same color pants and
had the gloves.
I love that fantastic.
Sir you've been selected for a secondary pat down.
Well, while we're on bankers then the ING Bank. They have a
whole little lot I think this is for investors. And very
interesting. There's a little video about Bitcoin. Now now
bitcoin is is of course interesting since that, was that
nut job the Tim Draper? I guess I guess he bought for $18
million
he he bought the getting into barriers money. Right
in the auction of the government funds which were from Are they
from that was that from the
the takedown of this guy in the city? Wasn't it?
It was that the the drone thing? Yeah. Was that what it was from?
So it's probably a good deal. I mean, I'm happy that that he did
that because he now he put a value I don't know exactly what
it is, but he put a value on these Bitcoins. And he's gonna
want to get his money back eventually and I still have some
ta somewhere I should probably run that program from time
better
not lose them. No, that would suck
and so I N G there have a call to action for the creators of
the Bitcoin. There is a new kid in money town this is a ditch
man who's talking about the Bitcoins? Yes, and it is called
Bitcoin Bitcoins. It is part of a family of cryptocurrencies
that might become a substitute for traditional money and
payment system. But can cryptocurrencies really replace
money? Well, money has three defining properties now this is
interesting because they're gonna say some What do you think
he's gonna say? What is the thing that is missing from the
three
defining properties of money? Yes. Okay, I think it's good why
what's missing what's going to be missing? No, but yeah, what's
gonna be missing is there's gonna be something that is
tangible
Well, there's something about money it let's say Bitcoin
became became the de facto currency what would we need in
order for it to really function as money computers, it is a
means of exchange exchange, it is a unit of account account and
it is a store of value, yes. cryptocurrencies may in the
future take the first box if they are accepted more widely
first box, but the second and third or more problematic
problem is value of Bitcoin is very volatile is bitcoins value
increased tenfold in 2013. What do we need to stabilize the
Bitcoins? value charm.
I have no idea about beige on gold also had
several speculative crisis in its short history very much so,
with real currencies central banks dampen these fluctuations
by regulating money supply and prices through interest rates.
But it is an explicit goal of Bitcoin and other
cryptocurrencies to do away with central authorities. The supply
of bitcoins increases at a predetermined rate by mining,
but demand for Bitcoin varies. So its price and the exchange
rate with currencies such as the dollar and the euro fluctuates.
These fluctuations could be bitcoins undoing, as they
complicate its adoption as real money. But there is a way out is
Bitcoin algorithm that smoothly matches money supply and demand.
It is not impossible, but the inventors of that successful
algorithm would make such a momentous step forward, that
they will surely qualify for the Nobel Prize in Economics. Oh.
I knew you'd like anybody think this is completely insane but
me.
That's ING Bank man. That's a real bank saying this I thought
was great. I loved it. Of course, it's insane.
It's insane. This is Beanie Babies. Hello.
quick rundown as we we are running over a bit but of course
we had a lot Haiti news on Haiti. The Olympic Committee
Sports Complex has opened up. For what? For what? For Olympic
sports of course. Porto Ponce, a group of diplomats relive
childhood dreams Tuesdays they practice jump shots played table
of table tennis and jockey to score goal on the soccer field,
led by Prime Minister Laurent Lemov the United Nations
Secretary General Ban Ki Moon and International Olympic
Committee president that's IOC Thomas Bach toured Haiti's
newest Sports Complex is still under construction $18 million
facility that's right, you've got cholera and we'll build a
sports complex ha It's sad
All right, well, I think you've summarized the day no no you
want to do a Hamas steroid do have a cannibalized
okay yeah. I'm so the only thing I have on Hamas and Hamas Hamas
is how you have to say it. I questioned sir Jonah are one of
our nights there in Israel. I said this Iron Dome thing when
it blows some some blows the one of those rockets from Hamas out
of the sky. Doesn't debris fall down? And he said yes, no one
ever talks about this. But this is video you have to see this in
the show notes. Where a piece of Iron Dome rocket or whatever
falls down in a tree and it's a surveillance video and it and it
makes a hole it makes a dent in the in the tree and in the
ground. And like two seconds later, this cat flies out of the
tree completely free. It's very funny. But But these things they
fall on sidewalks they fall on non cars. It's not without risk
this Iron Dome thing if
I put a trap in the backyard,
yes. You were very excited on Thursday. Yeah, I
put a trap in the backyard to catch a squirrel that was
plaguing the model for the last two years. Wait one off the tree
Hold on a second one squirrel. This because it's had this This
reeks of Caddyshack one squirrel for two years has been has been
pestering you. Yes. By eating your plums by eating the plums
on the tree and I'm sure it's the same squirrel. Well, no, we
think it wasn't that we think the other squirrels dead and
this is one of its kids this time.
And do you have a mouse in your pocket?
So we what I'm talking about the entire family was involved in
this episode. Okay. So put the trap out there and we caught the
squirrel and it wasn't as damaging as the squirrel last
year but you know, it didn't bite into one or two pumps. I
put a plum in the trap that traps great, great trap. So the
squirrels in there and so I took the squirrel to Berkeley.
Probably illegally you transported the squirrel. I
transported the squirrel it
kind of I can ask him questions Can I can I interrogate you?
Well what kind of trap is this is a trap with a cage with a
door and he goes in you put a plum in there or something and
the door closes or is it like a claw?
No, no, no, you got his leg. It's the squirrel goes into the
cages to see through the cage literally. The squirrel touches
the thing. It it unhooked the lid that just said like a door
slam shot and what what did
you use for bait as plumb a plumb a perfect
square girl went in there and so I took this girl to and dropped
him off on the other side of the freeway deep in Berkeley.
You put them in another place you just took them up said
I didn't kill this freeze tempting as it was you you
basically
moved him away from his family you'd like deported him
essentially I supported this squirrel. Okay. All right and
was it did you have a sad face?
So yesterday we I put this trap back up. There's a small possum
in the trap.
possums are crazy animals. Well, this is
a little one because you otherwise we don't have a giant
trap. It's a squirrel traps plastic possums cannibals about
that side. Possums
can do a lot of damage. Actually.
I don't notice this, okay. But I don't want to you know, these
varmints are at night. They're just roaming around who knows
what's going on outside and
ask you another question. So you had the squirrel? You deported
the squirrel? Yeah, but yet you set the trap again.
I figured there's another squirrel. Okay. There's usually
not a squirrel.
And what is what is the function of the possum in the animal
kingdom
to play dead. Like a marsupial. They're out at night and they
know the stuff.
Okay. And so and we're the plum and he ate the plum.
Yeah, another one. Yeah, pull him. So I kicked him out. I
didn't deport him. I just got told him to get lost. And did he
listen? Yeah, yeah. took off. And I hope I don't get your
small skunk. That would be bad. Oh, yeah, I've had that happen.
Anyway, so I just started reporting on this is
very good. Have you ever had mold or you're trying to deal
with mold,
I'm on a rock. This year mold tried to dig around here.
Because I mold trapping is very, that's a skill. We
used to have moles in when I lived in him as a kid. And up
north, we have gophers. Oh, they'll disappear. For some
reason. I haven't seen one for a while global warming a mess.
Climate change, put holes everywhere. Climate change
is why they disappeared. It could be climate change. But I'm
Mickey said she heard on NPR, about the Ebola virus, which is
you know, out of control now and all of Africa. I wanted, I
wanted to talk about that on one of the shows, and I'll probably
discuss it in some great detail because I have some thoughts
about the Ebola virus. And we'll discuss it on Thursday on
Thursday. Well, I have to find the report. But she said that on
NPR. They were blind. They were blaming climate change.
Well, I blame finding Yeah, I lied to you that clip. But Ebola
had been around for a while it's you know, they've it's I think
there's over 550 dead now. Very up to 600. Yeah, mild coverage
by the Western press. Even though this could be a disaster
if somebody showed up in Paris, you know, started getting on
public transit. And the real problem would be it seems to me
if you have a Typhoid Mary type of person, what is that walk in
infected Ebola person that won't that doesn't actually catch the
disease.
What is the story of the Typhoid Mary Typhoid Mary
was a famous woman. It could be a myth, but I think it was real
that apparently had walking typhoid fever, but she was never
she never got to the point where it's going to kill her. So she
roam around infecting everybody and with typhoid and so book of
knowledge Hold on a second look up
Typhoid Mary.
Mary Mallon am a double O in September 23 1869 to November
11 1938, better known as Typhoid Mary was the first person in the
United States identified as an asymptomatic carrier. That's the
word I'm looking for, of the pathogen assayed associated with
typhoid fever, she was presumed to have infected 51 people,
three of whom died over the course of her career as a cook.
Oh, yeah. She was twice forcibly isolated by public health
authorities and died after a total of nearly three decades in
isolation. Interesting, a locked her up. So that actually brings
me to, as we close out a war on crazy story. There's this app, I
think, is ginger.io. It's the behavioral health analytics
startup. This is for all you. Wearable people who see
smartphones as automated diaries containing valuable insight into
the mental well being of people with mental illness. You gotta
go to this website. It's pretty interesting. What's it called?
ginger.io. It's about redheads. No, no, and it's just I don't
know, they don't have a domain name was available. And the
heritage smarter care starts with your smartphone. And so
what it is, it's an app. And if you say I'm an individual living
with a chronic condition, mainly mental health, looking for
stronger connection to my provider and better care feel
better. So what it does is the the app uses data from your
phone to safely and securely watch for days when your health
may take a hit. It'll then connect you with care providers
who can step in when it matters most So if you're depressed,
it will the app will know as the phone Good to know, well,
if someone I'm reading from their material, if someone is
depressed, for instance, they isolate themselves have a hard
time getting up to go to school or work. They're lethargic and
don't like communicating with others the way they typically
do. Turns out, you see the same features change in their mobile
phone sensor data in their movement, features and
interactions with others. So the ginger app that tracks
everything. And then it's you know, it sees your behavior and
like, oh, well, man, I don't know. And then, you know, I
guess they'll send over the way you guys play that clip? Where
there's a
clip? Yeah, go to for individuals. And there's a nice
little clip. Oh,
shoot. I didn't see that homeless second. ginger.io.
You're already playing the clip. I didn't read for individuals. I
didn't realize there was a clip. I'm sorry. I would have set that
up. Yeah, don't
apologize.
Where do you see it? Oh, there it is. I was below the fold.
Yes. That's why
sometimes it can feel like your health gets away from you. Like
your body has a mind of its own. Yeah. And it won't be thinking.
It can be hard to answer your doctor's questions about how you
feel today, how you felt last month. But what if your body had
a better way to communicate how it was doing? You had a better
way to listen. That's the idea behind Ginger IO. Use your
smartphone. Yes, the thing you never put down is how you go
about your day. We look at things like how much you move
around, and how many other people you talk to, and ask you
a few questions about how you're doing right now. We use this map
to help you learn what your body is trying to say. When something
seems off, we send an alert to you and to the people who care
about your health. Know struggling to remember when you
had trouble waking up, or whether you felt like a five or
seven. Just simple questions paired with a system that's
always on but never in your way. The magic of Ginger IO. We give
your health a voice and a way for you and your care to hear
it. Best of all, it's simple, secure and free through to your
care provider to get started, or check us out@ginger.io and sign
up.
This is what we'll obey. This is what wearables will be all
about.
Yeah, I think this was all leads all roads lead to Ginger IO.
Yeah. Just spying on Yeah. I think it's sure that you know
that the police are in, you know, they know what's going on
case just in case pretty
good. All right. So on Thursday, we will talk about NPR and PBS.
I promise. We have to talk about Afghanistan. That's how you
pronounce it about the Afghanistan pipeline. All of
this isn't you know that everything's falling into place
there. Turkmenistan is happy with the deal. So the Tapi
pipeline, which goes all the way to Pakistan and India, they feel
that, you know, we have the pipeline security in place with
the drones in Waziristan. So they're good. They're going to
open up the pipeline, so we can feed the Pakistan and India. We
also have let's see Turkey privatization. I think
Afghanistan is the main one we want to talk about. Oh, and
there's new players in the Snowden affair and there's a lot
going on, John, I just haven't been able to to get into a deep
enough because of all of the MH 17
Okay, you're on for the Snowden stuff.
Yeah. And just give you a name RUNA SANDVIK new player nublado
RUNA SANDVIK have you do you know RUNA SANDVIK R U N A links
from Denmark or something? She's uh, I think now she's like a
Washington DC. You know, another one of these freedom of the
press, basically, a replacement for Apple bomb. See that the
whole thing with the Berlin crew and Dawn Rob Graham Greenwell is
he's been separated, he's no longer is in touch with Snowden
Poitras
of a second of a second leaker, which is correct discussed
and and now Snowden went back and did an interview without his
glasses. I might add, interestingly enough with the
guardian. I don't know if you've seen that interview video
interview. He was on the hope X conference which was in
New York with a pencil finding Snowden it'd be a little
tedious.
Very I don't find him interesting at all anymore. I
know what he has. He's now talking policy and all this
stuff. Not interested.
Yeah. As though he's like a policy guy. Yeah, the end is not
a policy. No, he's
a spy. But there's this RUNA SANDVIK. That's starting to get
very interesting about her involvement early on and the
story is slowly unfolding a little differently from what
Glenn Greenwald said. it. And here is the just play as it
playing us out. Is Snowden saying essentially, in his
guardian interview that at the NSA, certainly, but I think he
means it may be any intelligence unit when they find like a hot
picture of someone who's hot and sexy and naked, they put
basically pass it around. Which da, of course you do that John,
you and I email pictures all the time. Right
now in the course of their daily work, they stumble across
something that is completely unrelated to their work in any
sort of necessary sense. For example, an intimate, nude photo
of someone in a sexually compromising situation. But
they're extremely attractive. So what do they do? They turn
around in their chair, and they show their coworker, and then a
coworker who says, Oh, hey, that's great. Send that to Bill.
Way, Bill. And then bill sends it to George says, It's Tom. And
sooner or later, this person's whole life has been seen by all
of these other people. It's never reported. Nobody ever
knows about it, because the auditing of these systems is
incredibly weak. The fact that your private images, records of
your private lives, records of your intimate moments have been
taken from your private communication stream from the
intended recipient and given to the government, without any
specific authorization without any specific need, is itself a
violation of your rights. Why is that in a government database,
you can use or instances that happening? Absolutely, yeah.
Numerous. So it's routine enough, depending on sort of the
company you keep, it can be more or less frequent. But these are
seen as sort of the fringe benefits of surveillance
positions. Oh, yeah. You say the auditing is not that good that
it would pick up on the sharing of that kind of a 29 year old
walked in and out of the NSA with all of their private
records. What does that say about their auditing?
Interesting how he talked about himself as a 29 year old? Right,
is at the point where he's talking about himself in the
third person
and his girlfriend is about to come back on the scene to
the Oh, the dancer. Mm hmm. It's about time.
I agree. To all of these things, I
live with Snowden.
I think we're going to find some things out.
Yeah, well, maybe
you don't sound too excited.
I'm not excited at all. I'm sorry. I thought you would be
excited. I mean, why don't they just you know this guy up for
one thing. Just a story is just not going anywhere. It's just
dead end now. And Greenwell is not contributing any non-green
Greenwald is like, God, he's been taken out of the picture.
Yeah, totally. I mean, the whole thing is deteriorate into just
nothing.
Well, I think there's still something left. I think there is
some crip tome.org is they are threatening to release all of
the Snowden documents. I don't know if they actually have them
or not.
Without a probably it could have gotten him. I know the New York
Times has them as possible, so they could have taken it from
there. Even though I guess you go into a locked room to look at
anything. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. We'll see.
Anyway, it was fun talking with you, John. As usual, I always
enjoy our our Thursdays and Sundays. As always, I look
forward to it. It's always cool.
Well, I enjoyed your analysis. I thought it was top drawer. Thank
you. It's top five. Oh, thank you and puts it all together. It
makes more sense to what you said than anything else. And I
think we have lots of backup to make it very credible. And you
know, again, nobody else would have anything like this anywhere
else. Sometimes they try to do it. They just usually don't do
they'll maybe they'll just I don't know how this is going to
play out in terms of the public consciousness but it's probably
going to be exclusive to the listeners of this show. Oh,
yeah. But have the you know, though, they'll have the knowing
smile. Oh, you're going to be able to do folks. Knowing smile.
That's right. That's all you need in life is the knowing
smile. And please contributes dvorak.org/na We appreciate your
help. And coming to you from the South Austin safe house here in
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everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley, also known as a superior
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