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We're in trouble. I expect help
from the chat room. Adam curry,

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John C. Dvorak

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is Thursday, May 22 2014. It's
time for your gizmo nation media

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assassination episode 619. This
is no agenda. Podcasting from

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tomorrow for the last time in
the hot pocket. Wasabi tour love

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hotel in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry

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and podcasting from the past. In
Detroit, Michigan. I'm John C.

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Dvorak.

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Buzzkill. That's right. This is
the only podcast that is

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broadcasting on two different
days simultaneously.

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Yeah, in the future and in the
present are actually the past

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mess right? I am not I'm
actually in a town called the

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Ypsilanti which is known by the
locals as yips.

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Yeah Ypsilanti.

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Yeah, which is just outside of
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Okay, so, I'm in still in Tokyo,
Japan, this is the last last

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night we will be here it is
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the post production everything
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and then we will leave for
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the Travis heights hideout. John
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Michigan, you said

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yeah. Between Ann Arbour and
Detroit. And it's a very

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interesting experience being
around here. And I'm sitting on

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their muzzle mentioned this I
want to thank merit networks.

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For I'm actually sitting on a on
a fibre you owe me maybe the

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biggest in Michigan. It's an ad
essentially on disconnection.

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I'm 100 up and 100 down

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your connection right now
between the two of us is not the

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problem. No, I I've had other
issues just to get all this

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start. It's not about are you in
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I told that I was I gave a
speech to the to this group

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which is a fantastic operation I
might add they essentially

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did the check clear. Yeah,
fantastic operation Yes. Great.

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Fantastic operation. So they
anyway, they I asked him the I

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was at we ran meet up and we're
having another no agenda meet up

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tonight. Oh, great. Anyone who's
listening into Michigan area,

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and I think it's gonna be at the
rusty bucket in Plymouth at

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around 737 to 7030. Okay.
Anyway, it's kind of a little

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business are starting to email
everybody. I'm sure they're not

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listening. Why just pick up the
show on Saturday,

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we just hop into the, in fact, I
got an email from from one of

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our producers here. It's like,
Hey, I hope you're here. You're

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in Tokyo. I can't wait to meet
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Like okay, yeah, he says no, I'm
I'm a few shows behind. See,

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this is exactly. This is exactly
what happens.

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I know I did. We just tell
people not to think about it.

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But that's what's going to
happen. When I get back to

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California, we get a bunch of
people saying that they wanted

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to meet up. Anyway. So I met I'm
actually in a boardroom where

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they dropped me a where I got an
Ethernet direct connection. So

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but the problem is, is boardroom
is in the where they're having a

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conference, and attend the
conference. They have these

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meeting rooms all around me. And
every time it lets out about

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once every hour, it's just it's
a cacophony of people yakking in

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the hall and it may come through
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isn't one of those glass
conference rooms where everyone

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sees you sitting there?

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Not just close. All right, and
but I have to say I've been to a

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lot of different events, but
this thing that these guys do

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now tell me exactly what is this
event what? There's just a

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message. It's like a mute. I
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it. They get but they have
different names for each day.

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But Merritt net Oryx puts on
this event for its members,

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which are mostly school
districts. And it turns out that

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Michigan has apparently 1000s of
of school districts and lots of

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schools and lots of colleges
more than you think. I mean,

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right in the area, right and
just outside of this town is I'm

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driving to Ann Arbour on a back
row, and I say, Oh, there's the

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big giant University of Michigan
Stadium which is in Ann Arbour.

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And but it wasn't it was the
Eastern Michigan University

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Eastern Michigan Stadium and
there's just like school after

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school that I've never heard of.
Whatever the case i Although

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I've heard of Eastern Michigan
is they haven't they haven't

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they bring all these guys in to
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internet,

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cyber, cyber John, are you
doing? Are you doing a Cyber

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And the most interesting guy so
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guy hauled him in from
University of Michigan who

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apparently University of
Michigan has something going on

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in the computer science
department called the censorship

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resistance movement. And they
spent a lot of time dreaming up

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kind of screwball protocols and
things that you can use to

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bypass censorship mechanisms
around the world. And they've

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got to keep experimenting with
these things. And they've got

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one now they think works

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isn't the main thing proxies?
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yeah, but the Yeah, but the
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you get a proxy, you say, You're
a proxy guy in China, you got a

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proxy using a proxy in China,
the Chinese just shut down the

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proxies, when you know, they
find them first, of course, you

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can get stuff,

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you got to find them, it's, it
seems to be easier than using a

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proxy, from what I understand. I
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people here, in fact, getting
YouTube here, at times is very

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problematic, particularly Russia
today. The Chinese have the

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Japanese and the Russians, they
don't like each other. So you

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can't get on. That's funny.
Yeah. So whenever I've been

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trying to look at some Russia
Today stuff, very hard to get to

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it. And then I flip on the
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Well, they have the technique,
they're using his proxy lists on

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the on the recipient side. So
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your your you have like this
piece of code that is being

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updated on our this is for
extreme censorship, not that

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it's casual Japanese stuff, you
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Saudi Arabia, and they have it,
so there's a tag in that header

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that is very, it's encrypted,
that doesn't really mean

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anything. But when it's received
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the ocean, right, it triggers a
a Oh, okay. And it reroutes the

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IP address of whatever it is
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in with a different with a
different IP address and

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encrypted. So you can sneak
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interesting.

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And you are at this conference
to tell everybody that the

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internet as they know it is
fucked and and nothing is going

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to be good. Yeah, I got

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a huge cheer.

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This was your new speech. Right?
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new speech. Yeah. Which says
everything's bad. went over

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well, and actually, then the
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did, sensually the speech
condemned them all.

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This always works. It always
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Did you get any in the mornings?
Any anyone there? Yeah, there's

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actually quite a few

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fans in the audience. Good,
which I thought was interesting.

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And not to mention the people
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Right. Of course, there's a
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when we have a donation from one
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funny story. Oh, good. But just
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Detroit, I recommend people
visit it just to go driving

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around because Detroit is the
weirdest place I've ever seen is

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impossible to catch in in with
just simple pictures, you

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actually have to experience it.
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that the downtown's fine because
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torn down everything that's bad.
And then they've rebuilt most of

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it. And they've got a lot of
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outskirts. It's not even really
the outskirts, but just outside

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of the centre of town. And then
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the weirdest thing because you
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lot, I would take a lot of
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called ruination photography,
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now. You go around and you see
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apartment buildings that were
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that kind of era stuff. And it's
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It's just like, there's nothing
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the end. These are the buildings
that you can buy for a buck as

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long as you pay the taxes and
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turns out that buying this stuff
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done. But yeah, these are the
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again, you then you're screwed
on some other basis because of

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the back taxes, because and I
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yesterday about this as I was
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about the real key to success to
fix to fix all this is that the

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banks, you have property and
it's sitting there, somebody's

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got to pay property tax. Right.
And if it Yeah, exactly. If the

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banks had to pay the property
tax, because they now own it,

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because people walked from the
deal, because they just left the

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place and embedded. But the
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Because they've written you
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out of the law. So they don't
want to pay the taxes on this

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property they accumulated

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why not? I mean, they they own
us, they rule us. We're just

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that our slave masters, why
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sense. make sense to me? That
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be crazy. And Jamie Dimon,
wasn't he just in in Detroit?

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With $100 million investment
probably buying up some some

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property?

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Yeah, but it's probably going to
be downtown. I don't think

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they're buying up too much out
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downtown is owned by pretty much
one company. They also own the

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Detroit Tigers and then they own
a bunch of Bill Links and they

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own a lot of the downtown. And
you could make it guess who it

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is, but you'd never guess.
Little Caesars Pizza Pizza.

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Pizza Pizza. The family that
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downtown Detroit. Wow. Yeah. And
they own the Tigers and the

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Tiger Stadium if anybody likes
baseball This is a one beautiful

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place hits like they got giant
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growling at Yeah, it's just
astonishing what a pretty park

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that is. When anyway, so I but
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Mimi and some of the locals
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you're in these areas that are
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It's a bit like a bit like the
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you know, the Ninth Ward is more
of them is more of a disaster

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area. There's three kinds of
things there's the disaster and

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I've been to the Ninth Ward
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as is our way on the on the Hot
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you go through there and you see
all this and you see you know

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people trying to catch you know,
they're trying to rebuild. This

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is different. And this is you
know, they like to call it

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blight but this isn't blight.
Blight is also different. Blight

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is an area that's just crap and
people are living there. This is

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like a ghost town. It's got this
ghost town feeling. There's

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nobody around in many of these
places. And if there are they're

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just stragglers who yell at you
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But it's like being in a ghost
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Hey, you you white privilege man
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pretty much and it but if you
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you know if you go to modern
ghost or some of the newer ghost

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towns that have been completely
abandoned, always one or two

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people living there still. And
that's kind of like the way this

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isn't some parts of his town.
And it but his ghost town not

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Blyton is just like it's weirdly
pathetic and creepy. And you

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keep thinking to yourself, what
other places could could this

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happen to? Because a population

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Travis heights Austin, Texas,

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I'm thinking the same thing. New
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if you take a city that went for
I think there's like 2.2 million

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people here. And then when
everyone abandoned the city,

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you're and it took a little
while it wasn't overnight it

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began. I thought it began in the
60s with the riots. But I now

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I'm looking at the I went to the
Packard factory yesterday to

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look to Dyson

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as in as in the old car Packard.
Yes. They're nice.

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It's a massive course it's
completely gutted in its in

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ruins and recode on fire me. But
the thing is, a mile by a mile

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is a giant mess. And I have a
movie, I'll post on it. And that

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closed in 1958 It started to
decay. And that's when it all

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began when they started
abandoning these car factories

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and the Packard factory may be
the initial. So it took this

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long to get where it is, which
means it's not going to reverse

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that fast. It has to be rebuilt
from scratch essentially the

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whole area. So it's so it's a
long process it seems to me to

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get to this this abandonment and
I think I think it could happen

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in San Francisco. I think it
could happen in Chicago. Cool.

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Cool. I you'll be there to
report on everything that takes

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place. Yeah, exactly. Love it.

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But once you get outside and go
back into the Ann Arbour places

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like datamine, so it's fine. But
How about

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how about Christ or he I used to
have Chrysler as a as a client

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back in the 90s. And we built we
actually built one of those

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first dealer network kind of
websites and was called I think

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we had a name for it, of course,
like web mechanic or something.

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It was it was a dealer. It was
one of the really the first

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dealer locators and then the
Mopar parts and all this and we

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would go to, to headquarters.
And it was, you know, it was

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kind of at that point, even in
the 90s, mid 90s. You know,

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things were dire in Detroit. But
the headquarters was one of

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those glass buildings and they
had all the really big like Star

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Trek chairs everywhere. A really
old school, Motor City, if you

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will, you know what I mean? It
was a building that that fits

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that bill is the General Motors
Building, which is still

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downtown Detroit, and it's
beautiful. Right? And, and it's

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huge. It's a big, big building
says General Motors in the top,

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and all the factories that still
make cars or at least pieced

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them together from parts made in
Mexico, are still in the

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outskirts of town. I mean,
Lansing and Detroit and places

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like that are not Detroit but
Dearborn. But Detroit itself,

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which did I guess have the
packer factory and a couple

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other and there's a lot of
industrial, industrial. I mean,

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I don't even know what these
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a couple of days ago. It's huge.
Again, mile long facility that

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is just all bricks, they made
these things out of bricks, it's

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just it's like a it's like if
you've been to the mill area in

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New Hampshire where they all
these abandoned Mills because it

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was a big production facility,
their production facilities

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there for making clothes and
things and material. And they

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they're just all abandoned. This
is the same thing on steroids.

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These things, these buildings
are massive. And then it just,

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it's weird. I'd recommend people
come out. So

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essentially, you're kind of
living in Atlas Shrugged is what

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you're saying

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by iron Rand. Yeah. Essentially,
it's definitely it's a trip, I

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have to say I would if anyone
has, if you're a photographer,

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you just dream come true. If you
like,

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Nikki, hear it? Don't let Mickey
hear it.

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Oh, she'd love it. She would go
crazy taking pictures. So

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I gotta tell you, we went crazy
tonight, here in Tokyo. And I

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don't think that this was around
last when you were last in

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Tokyo. Many people have told me
about it. But we went to the

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robot bar. Okay, are you
familiar with this? No, no. And

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I definitely did not see that.
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man. This is one of these days,
kind of, in a way. It's like

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what you're describing with the
buildings where it doesn't

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really translate in a photograph
kind of like how the, the Grand

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Canyon doesn't translate the
robot bar, you have to think

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it's a it's a cross between
first of all, if you're on acid,

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just an I don't know if you've
ever done acid, I think you

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might have but you wouldn't
admit to it. But and I've never

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done it. But I've done DMT Some
say it's close to that. So it's

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an acid trip. And it's like
you're in Vegas. But it the it's

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a show. And the show is Russia's
opening of the Winter Olympics.

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With robots

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and hot chicks. That would be
very hard to imagine.

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Just Just Google robot bar Tokyo
so you can see some pictures.

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And of course, Sir Mark and de
mastered took us even edit. And

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these people they had been so
nice and so gracious as hosts,

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besides day master letting us
have her pet hair. You know,

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they have a big pitch tomorrow
and like, oh, no, we're gonna

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take it, we gotta go to the
robot bar. And it was the most

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bizarre experience, either
makiya. And of course. You know,

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they have audience participation
and they got like robots boxing

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and stuff. And as we're coming
in, the guy at the door goes,

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Ah, you want to you want to
fight robot. And oh, pretty,

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pretty tall go on to fight
robot. And Nikki saying I don't

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want I want to know I don't want
to do and? And I do. Yes, you

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do. Yes, you do. And Mark and I
are like yeah, she does. And we

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got the best seats, of course.
Because you know, you get like

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your seat number 100 to the
right in the right in the middle

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perfect positioning. But this is
it was like really high

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fidelity, really low tech. And
it was it was a like a modern

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day circus. Anyone who's been to
the robot bar in Tokyo will know

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what I'm talking about. I wish I
could explain how it is how it

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works and what it is. But it's
unexplainable, other innocents

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inexplicable really, other than
it was just an insane

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experience.

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Looks like a party. I'm looking
at the photos. It's

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cool. It's an old and
everything's gaffer tape and

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plastic. But it looks super
real. And it's just hard to

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explain.

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Yeah, well, that's the same kind
of thing. You have to some of

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these things are a lot of things
around the world that you have

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to actually go we're just got to
do it. You got to do can't You

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can't even virtual, you could
take the Google you know, the

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going Google Maps and then get
Street View and drive around

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Detroit. Yeah, you could see a
lot of this stuff. But it's

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still not the same. No, no, no,
because there is a an atmosphere

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that's hard to describe.

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I couldn't I could imagine. But
this is Wow, what an

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international show we have here.
John.

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I'm well, and on top of that. So
I met this event to listen to

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these. This is one of the best
events I've ever been to because

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the speakers are so interesting,
including the year the guy this

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morning from the EU going on
about the Council of Europe and

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all this bull crap. It was
unbelievable. Those are the guys

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that really I think run the show
that Council of Europe.

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Well, that's the I think the
European Council runs the show.

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And then the Council of Europe,
which is

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the Council of Europe. Oh, no,
that's the business association.

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The Council of Europe is no,
it's the human rights

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organisation. Okay.

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It's so confusing. Hey, by the
way, by the way, everyone's

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voting today. Yeah. Today the
EU. parliamentary vote starts

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and it goes it's a three day
party. So everyone in Europe is

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supposed to go out and vote.
Good for them. Yeah, do whatever

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you do. Don't vote for those
right wing Nazi parties. No,

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because what will happen like
you campin freedom and party in

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Holland and LePen in France
don't vote for them. They're all

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Neo Nazis

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talking about Neo Nazis. So
concurrent with the event I met

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there is a law enforcement
event. And it's all the whole

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thing is focused on sobriety,
home arrest and then they've got

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all the tracking devices here
and they're all everyone's good

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pitching I went and chatted with
these guys are all pitching

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their device or their little
ankle it to the ankle bracelet.

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They've all got so here's what
I'm looking at this this press

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release the Lindsay Lindsay
Lohan jewellery. Yeah, sober

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link SL two there's all these

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silverlink SL two, we hear it
soberly, I think that we have

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the perfect device to deter your
your, your customer from leaving

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their area.

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So well the silverlink SL two is
the monitoring device. So it's

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it's different than the ankle
bracelet. This is the rugged one

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piece mobile alcohol monitoring
device that measures breath

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alcohol content by collecting
deep lung breath samples. Yes,

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I'm I'm looking at their webpage
right now.

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This is interesting. Listen to
this. The SL two incorporates an

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adaptive facial recognition.
evidentiary grade fuel cell

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technology and multiple
acquisition technology to ensure

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the client is accurately lie in
a fight and tested below. Rely

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on tests are properly reported
to the central monitoring

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computer system via cellular
connection. So essentially, you

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gotta be breathing into this
thing

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all day. This is red has a
little webcam. It has this

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because they don't want like if
I'm too drunk, and I'm supposed

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to be breathing this thing. I
can't give it to you to breathe

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into. Yeah. So that's why you
need the facial recognition. Now

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you could use one of those
masks, picture yourself.

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It has tempered detection
sensors, high resolution camera,

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D O T grade fuel cell nice and a
little tube, a little tube to

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blow. Although if you brush your
teeth and you use mouthwash,

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apparently these things get set
off.

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Oh, yeah, you can't do that. You
have to have bad breath to be

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one of my friends. I'm reliably
informed. This is a very is a

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hideous thing. And it's an it
runs on Verizon.

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There you go. Which means you
got to pay that bill to Oh,

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yeah. Oh, yeah. No, you have to
pay rental for the device. You

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have to pay for the service, the
monthly service. You have to pay

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for the thing to be installed.
Oh, yeah. No, it's a it's run by

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Mothers Against Drunk Driving.

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So I've gone through, there's a
bunch of these booths, and they

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have all kinds of different
things. And of course, I took

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pins from everybody. There's one
product called the atom, which I

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got to pan I'm sending it to you
how cool. It says Adam on an on

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it. It's the automated detection
and monitoring or something.

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Yeah, of course,

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they'd have an acronym for me,
wouldn't they?

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Yeah, of course. So I'm going to
each one of these booths. That

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self driving cars gonna put you
guys out of business?

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Oh, well, you know, it's funny
you say that I was I was in the

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show notes, which is a little
discombobulated today, there was

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see if I can find this really
good story about the self

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driving car and the story. I
have. I'm sceptical about the

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self driving car business
anyway. But when you think about

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how much money municipalities
and cities and states make on

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traffic violations,

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yeah, no, they're done. They're
all the cities are done. Yeah.

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And

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this Google, the Google car
apparently has now driven

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700,000 miles without a single
traffic violation. Yeah, well,

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yeah, no traffic cops. Yeah,
well, this will never happen. So

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this little this thing will
never get its permission is not

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going to happen. No way.

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Well, there's that you can make
that argument because that would

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be exactly what I if I was in
the city, I would not allow the

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cars to exist. There was

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a Slashdot story here it is. I
gotta get driverless cars could

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cripple law enforcement budgets.

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Yeah, great. They should yeah,
most cops they don't do policing

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they just give you traffic
tickets. There would be no

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traffic tickets there would be
no traffic police there'd be no

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any it all this stuff would be
gone the infrastructure the

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whole thing. And

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now if you if you want to drive
by if you want to drive by the

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hookers, how does that work? You
programme it into the doesn't

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know how to slow down and do the
cruise?

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I don't know. That's a good
question. We have to figure that

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out. Or how about just cruising
for gay boys. I mean, does it

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have a cruise mode? Well, you

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could stop Yeah, you could say
stop. Stop.

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Stop. Stop. Okay, Google. Stop.
Oh, oh my god. Two days ago, we

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were in the Takeshita Street,
which is where all the Japanese

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schoolgirls out now three days

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ago. Well, the Jackie's hanging
out there for some reason. Oh,

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Mickey

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wanted to take pictures. And by
the way, when you read the name

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the sign it looks like take shit
uh, but anyway, that's just me.

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And there are not a lot of
guising like foreigners. In

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Tokyo, we kind of stick out and
if you see someone else who's to

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pitch you do clearly not
Japanese they stick and there

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were these this woman and man
boy and girl, probably mid, mid

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30s Maybe. And he was a glass
hole with a blue powder blue.

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Google Glass and they were just
kind of hanging out. And we

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walked past them and of green Of
course, Mickey now like glatzel.

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And then they showed up in the
robot bar tonight. All dressed

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up

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themselves. That's so that's,
yeah, that's Japanese

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intelligence. They're following

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alright. No, no, but they're
not. They're American.

441
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I think, oh, CIA's following
Yes. No, I

442
00:25:43,260 --> 00:25:46,980
think it's like Vice magazine or
doing some kind of some kind of

443
00:25:46,980 --> 00:25:50,970
documentary, Japan through glass
or some bullcrap. Like, I could

444
00:25:50,970 --> 00:25:55,020
just smell them. That was the
they were up to no good. That

445
00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:57,900
didn't like didn't like it at
all. Hey, can I give you a few

446
00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:03,000
last Japanese impressions before
board impressions of Japan? I

447
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,970
should say. Some things that
I've noticed within things that

448
00:26:05,970 --> 00:26:09,840
happened before we move on to
other matters. Yeah, the

449
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,290
pressing matters. Yes. First of
all, Paul McCartney was supposed

450
00:26:13,290 --> 00:26:18,990
to perform here. Yeah. And he
first he delayed his he was

451
00:26:18,990 --> 00:26:21,810
supposed to do two nights he
delayed one and that he wound up

452
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,370
cancelling the two gigs because
he had the norovirus.

453
00:26:28,530 --> 00:26:31,260
The neuro Yeah, yeah. But Nora
only last two days. There's no

454
00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:32,550
reason to do that. But okay,

455
00:26:32,580 --> 00:26:36,780
well, he showed up last minute
and you know, there's no not

456
00:26:36,780 --> 00:26:40,740
like the the Rolling Stones who
show up 10 days ahead of time

457
00:26:40,740 --> 00:26:41,940
and get acclimated.

458
00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:46,980
He showed up last minute got
sick and on the day of the

459
00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:50,460
event. Yeah, was it I can't do
it exactly. Poor. I've had Noro

460
00:26:50,850 --> 00:26:55,410
actually everyone that most
people have had it. It's a poop

461
00:26:55,410 --> 00:27:01,470
it out. It's pooping and puke.
And it says miserable and it

462
00:27:01,470 --> 00:27:03,630
lasts about two days max.

463
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:07,290
But then we feel Paul McCartney,
why do you admit to that? I mean

464
00:27:07,290 --> 00:27:10,200
anything but um, puking and poop
and that's just not a good vibe

465
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,690
for. I didn't even want to think
about the beetle pooping and

466
00:27:12,690 --> 00:27:16,980
puking. Nanos, my arm you know,
something, you got something

467
00:27:16,980 --> 00:27:23,100
cool skateboard accident,
anything skiing. Now, here's

468
00:27:23,130 --> 00:27:27,270
here's something very annoying.
We're we're here in Tokyo. And

469
00:27:27,270 --> 00:27:32,460
of course, we're using Nikki's
iPhone with Google Maps. And,

470
00:27:33,330 --> 00:27:37,320
and Myka uses Google or I think
maybe Apple my Google Maps. But

471
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:42,480
the same with Apple Maps. When
you're using it in Tokyo, it

472
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:49,950
goes upside down. So unlike if
we're driving in Texas, and you

473
00:27:49,950 --> 00:27:50,070
know

474
00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:52,800
and North is north and you're
going are you going into

475
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,400
direction

476
00:27:53,429 --> 00:27:57,689
going into Yes. You're going
your heads up direction up right

477
00:27:57,689 --> 00:28:02,159
direction and here is direction
down and you can't change it

478
00:28:03,659 --> 00:28:06,809
it's the wit you have to
literally turn the phone upside

479
00:28:06,809 --> 00:28:07,499
down.

480
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,680
Yeah, because you're not used to
that but why

481
00:28:10,710 --> 00:28:11,820
why is it doing it? Let's

482
00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:14,880
speak some cultural thing.
That's the way they've done no

483
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:25,980
because nonummy you think it
would be sideways? Hey, John,

484
00:28:25,980 --> 00:28:26,430
good one.

485
00:28:27,780 --> 00:28:32,190
Astrid has a daughter. She's She
was also complaining about it.

486
00:28:32,610 --> 00:28:36,210
Yeah, no, I have the same thing
on my on my maps. And it's all

487
00:28:36,210 --> 00:28:39,180
her friends. These kids are kids
these kids know this. Hey, and I

488
00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:43,110
got I got the new the cool hip
kid app. But all the kids are

489
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:50,220
using his line from line Lyle,
why any L I N E. That's what all

490
00:28:50,220 --> 00:28:52,770
the cool kids are using here.
That's instead of instead

491
00:28:52,770 --> 00:28:55,320
of if you wanted a line, is that
what you're doing?

492
00:28:55,350 --> 00:29:00,570
Instead of WhatsApp they use
line. Okay, and well pay

493
00:29:00,570 --> 00:29:02,580
attention. This is this will be
the next thing that someone will

494
00:29:02,580 --> 00:29:09,030
buy for $10 billion if all the
Asians are on it, and of course

495
00:29:09,030 --> 00:29:12,360
I instal it and immediately
everybody in my contacts gets

496
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:21,540
line by line. Yeah. I did a ham
contact. I took the the KX three

497
00:29:21,540 --> 00:29:27,000
my mobile rig which I had got,
we went to Akihabara I think I

498
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,790
told you about that we went to
the to get my little my

499
00:29:29,790 --> 00:29:34,440
connector that I left at home.
And then I took the the rig into

500
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:40,050
the park strung up an antenna
half over some. I was kind of in

501
00:29:40,050 --> 00:29:49,680
the corner of the of the part of
the Emperess park and I was

502
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:55,470
doing this CW contact I got a
que eso going with Japanese ham.

503
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:01,050
It was very confused. So I'm
just using my us call He's like,

504
00:30:01,050 --> 00:30:07,770
I can't believe how strong your
signal is. And, and I was kind

505
00:30:07,770 --> 00:30:10,830
of sitting on the ledge and
technology was sitting on the

506
00:30:10,830 --> 00:30:16,410
ledge, and a cop and the cop
comes over. And he's like, oh,

507
00:30:16,410 --> 00:30:18,330
like, oh, man, I'm busted
because of course, I don't have

508
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,300
you know, I didn't get the
paperwork. To do this stuff

509
00:30:21,390 --> 00:30:25,050
efficiently. You have to fill
out paperwork six months in

510
00:30:25,050 --> 00:30:28,320
advance to get signed mission.
Oh, yeah. It's not in every

511
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,220
country, but in Japan. You do.
Okay. Yeah. And but he comes

512
00:30:32,220 --> 00:30:38,100
over. I'm busted. Didn't go.
Right. Right, right. I was

513
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:40,920
sitting I was disrespectful.
from Mississippi sitting. He

514
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,250
didn't, he didn't mind the wire
strung from a monument into the

515
00:30:44,250 --> 00:30:48,060
tree transmitting illegally. But
it was the sitting that was a

516
00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:50,880
problem. Okay, that's fine.

517
00:30:52,590 --> 00:30:53,490
What happened?

518
00:30:53,730 --> 00:30:55,620
Know that and I stood up and he
said, Okay.

519
00:30:57,300 --> 00:30:59,460
You were sitting with somebody
we're supposed to be sitting on

520
00:30:59,460 --> 00:30:59,670
what's

521
00:30:59,879 --> 00:31:02,729
not allowed to sit? You're not
It's not allowed. I was sitting

522
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:06,839
on a little kind of the edge of
the park on a ledge. Oh, yeah.

523
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:09,539
You can't sit and it was
disrespectful. Yeah. Which

524
00:31:09,569 --> 00:31:13,559
Which, by the way of drinking
and or eating and walking is

525
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:17,879
also considered wrong and not
good. You can't walk in? Well,

526
00:31:17,879 --> 00:31:23,609
you can. Well, you people.
frown. It's frowned upon. Yeah,

527
00:31:23,609 --> 00:31:26,939
because like, what you can't
just sit and enjoy your meal. So

528
00:31:26,940 --> 00:31:30,240
I assume that loud cell phone
calls are frowned upon.

529
00:31:31,110 --> 00:31:35,340
I have yet to hear a loud cell
phone call. Here in Japan.

530
00:31:36,330 --> 00:31:39,570
Everybody's walking. First of
all, you walk on the street, and

531
00:31:39,570 --> 00:31:42,870
we just been walking around
everywhere. The Japanese I have

532
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:47,070
to say pretty much are zombies.
When you know, they just walk

533
00:31:47,070 --> 00:31:50,730
and they even kind of walk with
a kind of a Frankenstein type.

534
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,300
If you ever notice how the
Japanese walk like a like Adam

535
00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:58,830
curry.com Seriously, they it's
kind of like they're falling

536
00:31:58,830 --> 00:32:01,860
forward. Like they're shuffling
their feet a little bit. They

537
00:32:01,860 --> 00:32:04,020
have this zombie Walker, you
know what I'm talking about?

538
00:32:04,020 --> 00:32:04,710
Yeah,

539
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:07,590
actually, they do drag their
feet in a funny way in in a very

540
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:08,670
Japanese like manner.

541
00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:11,490
And I don't know what that is.
And then they kind of just stare

542
00:32:11,490 --> 00:32:14,550
and now that the the school
girls are, you know, they're

543
00:32:14,550 --> 00:32:18,690
giggly and stuff. That's what
school girls do. But in general,

544
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,160
people just zombified. And this
is also a if you want to know

545
00:32:23,340 --> 00:32:26,040
why we're behind. Now, of
course, I've gotten the dough a

546
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,990
little bit of the business
community here through mark and

547
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:32,220
Astrid are BB super uber
producers. Vikon vi Countess.

548
00:32:33,330 --> 00:32:37,320
His people working 12 to 10 at
night, midnight. It's normal

549
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:43,740
here. Again, no decisions, they
work their ass off. You can't

550
00:32:43,740 --> 00:32:46,320
compete with this. These people
don't care. Like oh,

551
00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:49,800
you know, I've had so many
people that have lived there for

552
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,440
a long time. Tell me that this?
Because I noticed that too. And

553
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,560
I was over there. There. They
never go home. And in fact, in

554
00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:02,730
some neighbourhoods outside of
Tokyo pull up you show up at

555
00:33:02,730 --> 00:33:09,600
home first in the neighbourhood.
Yeah. And I was told by some

556
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,560
guys, just there all attempts at
this is bullcrap. He says most

557
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,010
of the guys there they Yeah,
they stay at work for a long

558
00:33:17,010 --> 00:33:19,560
time. And then they go, they
don't go clubbing. But they go

559
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,750
out to dinner with their buddies
and they hang out and they

560
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:24,960
drink. Yeah. And then they stay
stay out as long as they can. So

561
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,900
they won't be that humiliated
one that shows up at home too

562
00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:32,280
soon. And they make sure they
get on the get their cab or

563
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:35,340
whatever, go get their train,
ride, pick up the train stop

564
00:33:35,340 --> 00:33:38,130
working at midnight, and you
have to cap it out to the

565
00:33:38,130 --> 00:33:42,780
outskirts if you don't pay
attention, but they all hit out

566
00:33:42,780 --> 00:33:46,590
as late as they can. And it's
the fact that they don't work

567
00:33:46,590 --> 00:33:50,310
that hard. What's nice is that
they work smarter than Americans

568
00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:52,770
they and we and if you look at
the productivity numbers, our

569
00:33:52,770 --> 00:33:56,400
numbers are still higher because
we actually do work hard. So I'm

570
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,380
not you know, this is a I think
this is a myth.

571
00:33:58,409 --> 00:34:01,769
Well there's there is a point
now there is a point that it

572
00:34:01,769 --> 00:34:05,999
takes three of them to one of us
I have bike see that too. But I

573
00:34:05,999 --> 00:34:08,669
can just see it, I can see that
there's there's just a lack of

574
00:34:08,669 --> 00:34:12,479
actual, they're putting the
hours in, but I don't think the

575
00:34:12,479 --> 00:34:15,179
productivity is there. It's just
a generalised statement.

576
00:34:15,179 --> 00:34:17,969
Everybody don't get all mad at
me. It was just kind of a

577
00:34:17,969 --> 00:34:24,119
general thing. Meanwhile, the
country here is currently of

578
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:30,779
course running on liquid and on
gas from Australia, as they are

579
00:34:30,779 --> 00:34:35,249
still working on restoring power
through nuclear power plants.

580
00:34:35,249 --> 00:34:39,119
And here's something you might
have known this. There is a

581
00:34:40,769 --> 00:34:43,499
there are two different
electricity networks in Japan.

582
00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:50,729
And they they pretty much West
and East if you if you would,

583
00:34:50,789 --> 00:34:53,309
too. If you look at Japan as
west and east, north, north

584
00:34:53,309 --> 00:34:58,859
south, kind of but northeast
Southwest, and right around the

585
00:34:58,889 --> 00:35:04,949
middle point there. is there's a
divide. And there was when we

586
00:35:04,979 --> 00:35:10,949
when the Fukushima hit, there
was plenty of electricity and

587
00:35:10,949 --> 00:35:14,399
power available in the south,
but they literally could not

588
00:35:14,399 --> 00:35:21,509
send it up north. Do you know
why? No cop? I'm so happy to

589
00:35:21,509 --> 00:35:24,899
know this one. There are two
networks that the one in the in

590
00:35:24,929 --> 00:35:25,859
the north

591
00:35:26,129 --> 00:35:29,579
is because one is one tan and
the other is two, no,

592
00:35:29,580 --> 00:35:36,270
no one is 60 hertz, Bill and no
one is 50. So the 60 hertz

593
00:35:36,270 --> 00:35:40,620
network was built by GE. And the
50 hertz network was built by

594
00:35:40,620 --> 00:35:44,970
AEG by the Germans. And so they
can't convert it.

595
00:35:45,210 --> 00:35:46,500
Yeah, that's hard to convert.

596
00:35:46,860 --> 00:35:49,830
You could it was not basically
doing what you know, it's not

597
00:35:49,830 --> 00:35:53,130
worth it. It's not worth it not
worth it. How effed is that?

598
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,710
You know, I didn't know the
answer that because I remember

599
00:35:55,710 --> 00:35:58,710
when I was over there, and I was
in some, you know, is there was

600
00:35:58,710 --> 00:36:04,380
some situation with what can go,
you know, converters to use, and

601
00:36:04,380 --> 00:36:06,420
there was like this. I was
reading about the two different

602
00:36:06,420 --> 00:36:09,750
60s and 50s. And this and that,
and I'm thinking this is weird.

603
00:36:10,170 --> 00:36:15,240
What he's supposed to do, and I
think Tokyo was 60, wasn't it?

604
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:21,630
Tokyo is 60. Yes, Tokyo is Yeah.
Yeah, it's exactly the same as

605
00:36:21,630 --> 00:36:27,210
the US and then Osaka is, is 50.
And this this Tokyo Osaka

606
00:36:27,210 --> 00:36:33,030
rivalry thing is very strange.
And example, they have the 5060

607
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:37,530
cycles. Also, when you are in
the subway in Tokyo, you stand

608
00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:41,640
on the left so people can walk
by on the right. In Osaka, you

609
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,970
stand on the right so people can
walk by in the left. This is a

610
00:36:44,970 --> 00:36:50,400
weird country, man. It's funny.
And the economy economies is a

611
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,520
big pro. First of all, it's
cheaper than Austin here. I have

612
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,720
now I've been here long enough
to say cheaper than Austin and

613
00:36:57,780 --> 00:37:04,830
no tipping. No tipping. I love
this place. It's Vegas. You're

614
00:37:04,830 --> 00:37:09,240
cheap. No, no, no, no, I'm not
I'm I'm a very real I'm a good

615
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:13,470
tipper. I've always tip 20% But
it's also because it's easy,

616
00:37:13,470 --> 00:37:16,740
because I see annoyed by this. I
don't know the Common Core, you

617
00:37:16,740 --> 00:37:20,400
know, so but I just like 20% I
can figure that out just times

618
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,680
two, and then divided by 10 or
100. Or whatever. 10. Yeah, I

619
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,730
got it. Here's your tip. Here,
but here, it's it's beautiful.

620
00:37:29,730 --> 00:37:34,860
You save so much money and also,
you know, like you you don't

621
00:37:34,860 --> 00:37:36,810
have the feeling that someone's
looking at you like asshole

622
00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:39,810
beating you to mean it. You
know, none of that. None of

623
00:37:39,810 --> 00:37:44,970
that. I love that concept. And
it's really, really good. No

624
00:37:44,970 --> 00:37:49,260
tipping. And it's man, I'm
telling you, we're having a

625
00:37:49,260 --> 00:37:54,570
meal, the two of us were 20
bucks. With with alcohol. No

626
00:37:54,570 --> 00:37:58,170
way. Could you find that
anywhere else in the US? It's

627
00:37:58,170 --> 00:38:00,090
just no way not in the
restaurant.

628
00:38:02,430 --> 00:38:05,370
I mean, ever no one's ever made
this accusation that Tokyo is

629
00:38:05,370 --> 00:38:06,990
cheaper than Austin. But okay,

630
00:38:07,020 --> 00:38:09,810
it currently with the no tipping
it is cheaper than Austin. Of

631
00:38:09,810 --> 00:38:14,520
course, the economy. The problem
that they have is, well, there's

632
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:19,080
a lot of them. But everybody was
kind of waiting to see if the if

633
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,900
they will get the Olympics, then
they got the Olympics for 2020.

634
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:25,650
And then all the end, of course,
I know a little bit about the

635
00:38:26,250 --> 00:38:29,610
scene now. If they everyone
start jacking up their prices

636
00:38:29,610 --> 00:38:32,760
for buildings, and the no one
has the money now. But there's

637
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,370
like this big standstill and
stuff is not really happening.

638
00:38:35,370 --> 00:38:38,640
But probably in the next couple
of years. It'll really pick up

639
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,220
you've got to figure that the
Olympics is going to be a huge

640
00:38:41,220 --> 00:38:45,450
economic boom. And then what
I've told you are night and day

641
00:38:45,450 --> 00:38:47,580
in here, of course, what will
happen is it will ruin the

642
00:38:47,580 --> 00:38:49,680
country as it's intended to do.

643
00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:54,150
Yeah, no every time. I think
there's only one Olympics in

644
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:57,360
history that ever made money.
And that was the one that Uber

645
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,520
off or whatever his name is did
in LA I think

646
00:38:59,730 --> 00:39:02,490
you're right that with Lionel
Richie and the flying pianos

647
00:39:02,610 --> 00:39:03,570
that was a good was,

648
00:39:03,660 --> 00:39:06,390
and it was good. But the they
already had the Coliseum. They

649
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,240
had all the facilities didn't
build a bunch of new crap. I

650
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:10,710
said, Well, you lose your ass.
And

651
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:15,120
they have the 1964 Olympic
stadium here. But are we going

652
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,050
to? Oh, we can't reuse that. No,
we're going to build a whole new

653
00:39:19,050 --> 00:39:21,240
one. Oh, yeah. No, can't do
that.

654
00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:27,690
So So what's kind of new she
getting over there? And what did

655
00:39:27,690 --> 00:39:29,610
they have? What actually before
we get into that I wanted to

656
00:39:29,610 --> 00:39:32,310
talk about this. I do at that
put, I put this clip I grabbed

657
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:35,340
this clip, this old clip,
because you were talking about

658
00:39:35,340 --> 00:39:39,870
the thing about the shopping
malls. And what was it again?

659
00:39:39,870 --> 00:39:42,420
What do you mean? What do you
mean? There was there was they

660
00:39:42,420 --> 00:39:45,570
were doing I said I had that I
had the tape of the exercises

661
00:39:45,570 --> 00:39:48,510
going on the shopping malls
because they were doing one of

662
00:39:48,510 --> 00:39:51,030
the agencies was worried about
shopping malls or something like

663
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:53,880
that. Yeah, yeah, us you don't
remember.

664
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:56,190
I remember that. But I don't
remember what I said about it.

665
00:39:56,460 --> 00:39:58,440
But that's what I was wondering
if you could remember what you

666
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,070
said I don't I otherwise, yeah,
whatever. John shopping mall?

667
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:03,510
Yeah. Okay.

668
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,140
Well, the reason I said I've got
a clip that's perfect, but I

669
00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:10,350
don't have the I don't have it.
I didn't send it this week. But

670
00:40:10,350 --> 00:40:14,010
now that you don't remember what
you were talking about, the clip

671
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,760
has less meaning. But it was
about something about shopping

672
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,510
malls, and I had this clip that
I wanted to play. Well, maybe if

673
00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:24,360
we play the clip, I'll remember.
Okay, well, here's the clip.

674
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,180
This is the Hayward mall,
exercise.

675
00:40:27,210 --> 00:40:31,620
And this is a drill for
terrorists, I presume to drill

676
00:40:31,620 --> 00:40:36,120
for who knows what, of course,
terror terrorists, you'll get to

677
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,950
who knows what apart when you
hear the kicker

678
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,880
pull in Hayward? Don't panic.
It's only a drill, a drill that

679
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,270
Kristen says involves a lot of
guys running around with guns,

680
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:49,590
Kristen. Yeah, that's right. FBI
agents asking people in Hayward

681
00:40:49,590 --> 00:40:52,980
to stay away from Southland mall
tonight. And you can see why all

682
00:40:52,980 --> 00:40:56,580
those emergency vehicles,
ambulances behind me SWAT

683
00:40:56,580 --> 00:41:01,050
vehicles. This is as you said,
just a drill inside the mall,

684
00:41:01,050 --> 00:41:04,680
law enforcement, mall security,
firefighters and paramedics all

685
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,430
practising what to do in the
event of a terror attack or a

686
00:41:08,430 --> 00:41:11,490
mall shooting, there will be
actors and role players and

687
00:41:11,490 --> 00:41:14,970
these guys will be out here at
least until three in the morning

688
00:41:14,970 --> 00:41:18,300
running through these scenarios.
FBI agents telling us tonight

689
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:20,520
it's pretty rare that all of
these agencies get to come

690
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,280
together and coordinate
something like this. And what

691
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,040
they are actually doing inside
is top secret.

692
00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:31,290
Okay, I still don't remember
what it was. But it was top

693
00:41:31,290 --> 00:41:34,260
secret, but it does tie in it
does tie into something else.

694
00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:37,050
I think they're rehearsing.
Yeah, this is actors and

695
00:41:37,050 --> 00:41:40,230
players. And oh, no, they're,
they're rehearsing rehearsing.

696
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:40,410
Yeah,

697
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,710
I can tell you exactly what form
because so there's two types of

698
00:41:43,710 --> 00:41:48,900
news I've been receiving. One is
local Asian news. For instance,

699
00:41:49,110 --> 00:41:55,890
I only heard about Solange
Knowles yesterday. I didn't know

700
00:41:55,890 --> 00:42:00,330
anything about this elevator
seriously until yesterday. And

701
00:42:00,330 --> 00:42:03,870
I'm not a disconnected guy. I
mean, I'm clearly not reading

702
00:42:03,870 --> 00:42:09,780
TMZ. But so there's all this
other stuff that I am aware of.

703
00:42:09,780 --> 00:42:15,030
But there's also just CNN. They
they are so good with

704
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:20,490
propagating whatever formula is
brought out. And there is this.

705
00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:24,840
So it's clear. We need the we
we've messed up everything.

706
00:42:25,140 --> 00:42:28,530
Ukraine has messed up by the
way. They're they're going to be

707
00:42:28,530 --> 00:42:30,930
voting on the 25th. So that's
just a couple of days away.

708
00:42:31,980 --> 00:42:35,880
Syria is severely messed up. And
the whole idea was we were

709
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,600
supposed to stop that pipeline.
The the Islamic pipeline is is

710
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,310
known. The Iran Iraq, Syria
pipeline, and, and help are

711
00:42:44,310 --> 00:42:47,400
buddies. They're from Qatar and
had the pipeline move up from

712
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,690
Qatar into Turkey. So he messed
all that up. So clearly, and now

713
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:57,210
the Assad regime is kicking
everybody out. And then all the

714
00:42:57,210 --> 00:43:00,120
al Qaeda fighters, you know,
they're getting on buses and

715
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,470
leaving, because not working on
the bus in the Maori is. So we

716
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:08,880
need to go we need to take some
serious stuff. We gotta bomb

717
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,170
this place. We got to move in.
We got to do it. So we need to

718
00:43:13,170 --> 00:43:20,430
create a new narrative. And the
narrative is safe haven in

719
00:43:20,430 --> 00:43:25,620
Syria. This is it. The new one
the safe haven in Syria,

720
00:43:25,710 --> 00:43:30,240
in Syria amid the fighting al
Qaeda is planting its flag

721
00:43:30,330 --> 00:43:34,320
leading to a dire warning from
the director of the FBI about

722
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,420
the rise of al Qaeda affiliates.

723
00:43:36,450 --> 00:43:40,830
This was the beauty of the
Comey, the former HSBC banker

724
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:46,080
who became FBI director. So it
could help you know, the

725
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,490
laundering of all the money. He
was testifying about the FBI in

726
00:43:50,490 --> 00:43:54,390
the Senate for good, almost a
good two hours. So just gems of

727
00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:56,070
clips coming out of this guy's
piehole

728
00:43:56,100 --> 00:44:01,650
its progeny in throughout the
Middle East and Africa, are

729
00:44:01,650 --> 00:44:05,700
virulent and bent on doing great
harm to Americans abroad and

730
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:06,300
here at home.

731
00:44:07,380 --> 00:44:08,250
virulent,

732
00:44:08,370 --> 00:44:12,420
virulent, doing great harm to
Americans abroad and here at

733
00:44:12,420 --> 00:44:15,750
home standby wait for it. Get
ready for your mommy says one of

734
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:20,400
the most virulent threats of
virulent again is a meme. Yeah,

735
00:44:20,430 --> 00:44:23,490
well that's not the virulent
it's the safe haven it's the

736
00:44:23,490 --> 00:44:24,300
safe area

737
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:27,420
and opportunity that is
attracting droves of

738
00:44:28,650 --> 00:44:33,390
droves of jihad ease What is it
drove how many in a drove John

739
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:37,740
It depends what kind of drove or
China's cattle it's got to be

740
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,810
we should I think we should
evaluate how we just hold on a

741
00:44:42,810 --> 00:44:51,600
sec I need to know this how many
units in a drove let's see, I'm

742
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,150
using Duck Duck go by the way
which I'm finding quite

743
00:44:56,070 --> 00:44:59,610
ugly my opinion on this. Duck
Duck go is great because you

744
00:44:59,610 --> 00:45:01,680
know they don't Keep all your
searches and all the rest of it.

745
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,240
But then it it, it it, it puts
some code in your browser. So

746
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:09,990
Duck Duck go shows up in moments
when you're using Google, it

747
00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:12,630
shows us Duck Duck go, it's
annoying.

748
00:45:12,750 --> 00:45:15,720
They have they have the Duck
Duck go next, they have a new,

749
00:45:15,780 --> 00:45:19,290
they're like a beta search
engine, and was very easy to

750
00:45:19,770 --> 00:45:23,520
configure Firefox to use it. And
so I'm kind of evaluating it.

751
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,700
And I'm, at least I'm not being
tracked by Google. Okay, how

752
00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:29,550
many units in a drove while I
Well, DuckDuckGo fails?

753
00:45:30,450 --> 00:45:33,270
Well, here I'm looking at the
definition, essentially, large

754
00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:36,810
group of people or animals that
move or act together. It doesn't

755
00:45:36,810 --> 00:45:37,140
say

756
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,590
he's calling them animals. How
racist is that?

757
00:45:41,970 --> 00:45:47,070
To come to Syria, to learn new
things, build new relationships.

758
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,540
Apparently, there's a tinder app
in Syria where you can

759
00:45:51,900 --> 00:45:56,700
learn new things. Hey, we're
having a conference and there's

760
00:45:56,700 --> 00:46:01,260
going to be a webinar by webinar
who sings

761
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:05,850
new things on the webinar, and
we make new contacts. Hey,

762
00:46:05,940 --> 00:46:08,160
what's up? Hey, can you see
these guys

763
00:46:08,670 --> 00:46:11,970
exchanged some cards? Social
meeting,

764
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,390
he's got a name tag. Hi, my name
is Mohammed Ahmed.

765
00:46:15,810 --> 00:46:20,820
Come to Syria, to learn new
things, building relationships,

766
00:46:21,090 --> 00:46:23,610
and then most dangerously
evolved at some point to flow

767
00:46:23,610 --> 00:46:27,510
out of Syria, there will be a
terrorist diaspora out of Syria.

768
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,800
Guys loaded with there will be a
terrorist

769
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:32,580
diaspora

770
00:46:32,670 --> 00:46:35,610
in law enforcement, national
security and the intelligence

771
00:46:35,610 --> 00:46:39,510
community are determined not to
allow lines to be drawn between

772
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:44,070
an outflow from Syria and future
nine elevens. Future nine

773
00:46:44,070 --> 00:46:44,940
elevens

774
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,860
future 911 future nine

775
00:46:46,860 --> 00:46:51,480
elevens that's that's really
pouring it on pretty thick when

776
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,010
you're doing future 911.

777
00:46:53,460 --> 00:46:57,480
The US estimate 70 or more
Americans have gone to Syria to

778
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:02,340
fight. Nobody knows how many are
back in the US. Comey joins

779
00:47:02,370 --> 00:47:06,180
wouldn't the Customs and Border
Patrol know

780
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:08,970
you think they would know when
they come in? Why don't they

781
00:47:08,970 --> 00:47:13,140
know? Well, let me let me just
stop for a second. What happens

782
00:47:13,140 --> 00:47:16,620
when Mickey comes into the
country? She gets detained?

783
00:47:17,250 --> 00:47:20,130
Well, then they would do that
with all these people for sure.

784
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,300
You would think

785
00:47:21,540 --> 00:47:25,380
yes. I mean, unless they're
sneaking in through Canada or

786
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,310
Mexico, which seems those
borders are even harder. Yeah.

787
00:47:29,310 --> 00:47:29,700
Many

788
00:47:29,730 --> 00:47:32,880
are back in the US. Is it a
miracle me joins a chorus of

789
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,410
national security officials.

790
00:47:36,330 --> 00:47:41,100
A chorus of national security
officials who all sang acapella

791
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:42,120
are increasingly

792
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,510
warning of the threat of an al
Qaeda attack in the US by

793
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:47,370
fighters from Syria. Ah,

794
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:52,110
we're seeing now he parents of
training complexes in Syria to

795
00:47:52,110 --> 00:47:54,480
train people to go back to their
countries.

796
00:47:55,860 --> 00:48:00,300
Way Stopstopstop they find they
know of training complexes in

797
00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:03,720
Syria? Is that what he just
said? Yes, this is just bomb it.

798
00:48:04,140 --> 00:48:07,620
That's the point. You're
catching on real quick, John.

799
00:48:07,620 --> 00:48:10,860
That's the point. The whole idea
is to go bomb

800
00:48:10,890 --> 00:48:15,060
threat of an al Qaeda attack in
the US by fighters from Syria.

801
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:20,130
We're seeing now the parents of
training complexes in Syria to

802
00:48:20,130 --> 00:48:25,530
train people to go back to their
countries. And and, of course,

803
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,910
conduct more terrorist acts.

804
00:48:27,330 --> 00:48:29,430
Now a new revelation

805
00:48:29,460 --> 00:48:34,170
Oh, by you sitting down your
fibre might overheat from the

806
00:48:34,170 --> 00:48:36,300
new Revelation. John, the al
Qaeda

807
00:48:36,300 --> 00:48:39,750
presence in Syria. Do you agree
with Director Clapper? Oh, hold

808
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:43,380
on a second stop again. Do you
notice these are both the all

809
00:48:43,380 --> 00:48:46,530
the douchebags and including
that guy who Lindsey Graham.

810
00:48:46,860 --> 00:48:49,950
Also McCain does the same thing.
Yeah. And all these other guys.

811
00:48:49,980 --> 00:48:53,610
They don't ask questions. They
lead the witness three. Do you

812
00:48:53,610 --> 00:48:58,050
agree? You agree? Do you agree?
Do you agree? Do you agree?

813
00:48:58,530 --> 00:49:04,860
Okay. Just pointing it out.
While it was kind of good. Can

814
00:49:04,860 --> 00:49:09,780
you do that again? Do you agree?
Do you agree? Do you agree, obey

815
00:49:09,780 --> 00:49:12,570
must obey. Obey.

816
00:49:14,550 --> 00:49:17,010
And, of course, conduct more
terrorist acts.

817
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:19,560
And now a new revelation.

818
00:49:19,740 --> 00:49:22,740
The Al Qaeda presence in Syria.
Do you agree with Director

819
00:49:22,740 --> 00:49:26,220
Clapper that it represents a
direct threat to the homeland

820
00:49:26,220 --> 00:49:30,210
the al Qaeda safe haven in
Syria? Yes. Okay. Do we have a

821
00:49:30,210 --> 00:49:36,090
plan to deal with that? As a
nation? Yes,

822
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,270
we're going to do training
exercises in the Hayward Mall.

823
00:49:40,260 --> 00:49:44,880
And we're good to go. The Safe
Haven al Qaeda safe haven in

824
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,230
Syria now.

825
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:53,850
How is that even possible Assad
hates those guys. How do you

826
00:49:53,850 --> 00:49:57,180
create it? Does anything
dominate Syria? This zero said

827
00:49:57,180 --> 00:49:57,870
doesn't matter.

828
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,440
Well, of course it makes zero
sense. But there's no analysis.

829
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:07,170
This is just being fed in by the
true propaganda arm of, and

830
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,430
they're not the only ones of
NPR, PBS, everybody's on board

831
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:14,970
with it and they don't even know
half the time, that to live not

832
00:50:14,970 --> 00:50:18,570
doing actual analysis, not
thinking not just doing whatever

833
00:50:18,570 --> 00:50:20,820
they're told and, and of course
they're doing because they get a

834
00:50:20,820 --> 00:50:24,810
job and they're happy to have a
job. I don't care. There's no

835
00:50:24,810 --> 00:50:30,270
risk is zero risk. They're not
sleeping on futons and Tokyo.

836
00:50:31,620 --> 00:50:35,580
Oh, they're there in the Grand
Hyatt. I'm not complaining by

837
00:50:35,580 --> 00:50:36,720
the way. No, you

838
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:37,740
have a nice little place. I'm

839
00:50:37,740 --> 00:50:41,910
not complaining. I'm not
complaining. Now. I need to play

840
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:47,580
one more. Because I got really I
did. I did some crazy. I did

841
00:50:47,580 --> 00:50:50,880
something crazy. Someone
referenced something on CNN

842
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:55,350
again. And I went looked at the
document to see if it was true.

843
00:50:55,350 --> 00:51:01,710
It wasn't I can't believe I did
this. I'm so stupid. What have

844
00:51:01,710 --> 00:51:06,450
we heard consistently about the
Sarnath brothers? The alleged

845
00:51:06,450 --> 00:51:11,730
Boston bombers and their
pressure cookers? Where did they

846
00:51:11,730 --> 00:51:16,050
learn to create these pressure
cooker bombs?

847
00:51:17,310 --> 00:51:21,720
Well, I mean, they tried to I've
watched a bunch of coverage of

848
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:24,360
this, and they've tried to
reverse engineer it to push it

849
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,380
into that stupid magazine. Yes.
But the magazine didn't print

850
00:51:28,380 --> 00:51:31,350
the information until after the
bombing. It was

851
00:51:31,350 --> 00:51:38,220
even worse than that. It's even
worse. And that was the cue and

852
00:51:38,220 --> 00:51:42,270
it misfired. And we'll find out
was it it was inspiration. No,

853
00:51:42,270 --> 00:51:43,860
it's inspire mag Inspire.

854
00:51:44,340 --> 00:51:47,490
And in some cases, some
surprising details coming out in

855
00:51:47,490 --> 00:51:50,790
this court filing I wanted to
get your take on what you saw

856
00:51:51,060 --> 00:51:54,480
terror experts in this document
that you didn't know before that

857
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,010
may have surprised you Christmas

858
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:02,460
this is what is happening now is
the FBI is who did not read

859
00:52:02,850 --> 00:52:09,120
Dzhokhar shun if his Miranda
rights under a under a precedent

860
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:14,010
which states if there is a
imminent danger to the homeland,

861
00:52:14,010 --> 00:52:16,440
you don't you can continue to
question somebody without their

862
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,770
lawyer present without their or
without reading them their

863
00:52:19,770 --> 00:52:23,370
rights. And of course, because
they had no idea how many more

864
00:52:23,370 --> 00:52:26,250
bombs there would be, you know,
so that they're trying to build

865
00:52:26,250 --> 00:52:28,950
their case, which the whole
thing is botched. We know that

866
00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:32,940
this was maybe two operations
that crossed lines it was

867
00:52:32,940 --> 00:52:36,360
supposed to be a six week cycle,
the bombs weren't supposed to go

868
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,260
off. There was also a drill
taking place. It was completely

869
00:52:40,260 --> 00:52:42,630
messed up. And now they have to
cover their tracks cover their

870
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:46,260
ass. So they're doing everything
they can and and now they have

871
00:52:46,260 --> 00:52:50,070
to prove that there was there
were real bombs. And these bombs

872
00:52:50,070 --> 00:52:56,340
were created based upon the al
Qaeda inspired inspire magazine

873
00:52:56,340 --> 00:53:00,540
and al Qaeda operation, but that
they were lone wolves and not

874
00:53:00,540 --> 00:53:02,400
connected to our code. It's a
mess, like

875
00:53:02,430 --> 00:53:04,770
model car parts. Fireworks.

876
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,520
Well, okay, we actually did know
a lot of this before. But what

877
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,800
this document shows is that
United States Government

878
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,190
counterterrorism were concerned
in the days after the Boston

879
00:53:14,580 --> 00:53:18,240
bombings that these individuals,
the brothers may be acting with

880
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:21,810
others because that device was
relatively sophisticated and

881
00:53:21,810 --> 00:53:25,620
tricky to put together. That's
what they believed, possibly was

882
00:53:25,620 --> 00:53:28,500
the case a year ago, but there's
been a lot of investigation

883
00:53:28,590 --> 00:53:31,980
since and no evidence now to
suggest that they trained

884
00:53:31,980 --> 00:53:35,670
overseas or were acting with
others. Well, most of the bombs

885
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:38,580
they put together was from a
recipe and inspire magazine,

886
00:53:38,580 --> 00:53:40,710
which is a magazine put out by
al Qaeda in the Arabian

887
00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:41,250
Peninsula.

888
00:53:41,370 --> 00:53:46,020
Okay. Now let me just say I went
to find the this is based upon

889
00:53:46,020 --> 00:53:51,630
the mega bomb in the kitchen of
your mom from the 2010 edition

890
00:53:51,630 --> 00:53:57,660
of Inspire magazine. And
although they do indeed mention

891
00:53:57,690 --> 00:54:02,850
a nine volt battery with
Christmas lights as the ignition

892
00:54:02,850 --> 00:54:08,040
device, they specifically do not
mention at all anything about

893
00:54:08,070 --> 00:54:13,920
fireworks. In fact, quite the
opposite using matchstick heads.

894
00:54:14,310 --> 00:54:17,070
And here's the one here's the
thing that really blew me away.

895
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,780
Not a single mention of a
pressure cooker. Yeah, only a

896
00:54:21,780 --> 00:54:22,350
pipe

897
00:54:23,490 --> 00:54:24,420
as a pipe bomb

898
00:54:24,450 --> 00:54:27,510
was one bit of the bomb, which
was different, which was a toy

899
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:31,080
car remote detonating mechanism.
And that's actually something

900
00:54:31,110 --> 00:54:33,450
that would be the smallest
difference. The fact that it

901
00:54:33,450 --> 00:54:35,910
was, I don't know not a pipe is

902
00:54:36,359 --> 00:54:39,989
quite tricky to put together. So
there's been some speculation

903
00:54:39,989 --> 00:54:43,919
from experts that they may have
need some sort of tuition to do

904
00:54:43,919 --> 00:54:46,289
that, but it wouldn't be
something impossible for them to

905
00:54:47,970 --> 00:54:52,110
do. We've got to we've got to
push this through. Why not? When

906
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:57,780
and how could they have come
from the outside in the back

907
00:54:57,780 --> 00:54:58,260
pull this

908
00:54:58,260 --> 00:55:03,000
off without me some kind of
Training Training Training

909
00:55:03,749 --> 00:55:07,739
for purely homegrown terrorists
these sorts of devices

910
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:16,380
homegrown from this safe harbour
what was it? safe haven in

911
00:55:16,380 --> 00:55:20,520
Syria? This is where it's going.
We're going to I hate to say

912
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,340
ladies and gentlemen, they're
going to light something off in

913
00:55:23,340 --> 00:55:28,710
America that now we need to have
a boom it's sad and sad and

914
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:32,280
what she hears I hear I think
there's a problem here with the

915
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,920
agencies and how they're you
know, battling and all the rest

916
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,760
of it. It between each other and
the FBI has to have their six

917
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,360
week thing going on. I think
there was a I think they've had

918
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,520
meetings that must have had
meetings where they were they

919
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,420
went like this, the NSA with his
big budget. Wait a minute, why

920
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:52,620
didn't let's do the meeting?
Okay, all right. You I'll be the

921
00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:56,010
the NSA guy, you're the FBI guy
and you're hell bent on doing

922
00:55:56,010 --> 00:55:56,790
something big.

923
00:55:58,260 --> 00:56:00,210
Okay, are we at my place or your
place?

924
00:56:01,050 --> 00:56:05,280
We're at a cafe as usual place
we're not You're not coming over

925
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,660
to our place and look around.
Hey, how you doing man? Hey, a

926
00:56:09,690 --> 00:56:10,260
curry.

927
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:12,390
What's up Devorah What's up
we're

928
00:56:12,450 --> 00:56:17,340
a little bit we're getting a bit
concerned about a couple of

929
00:56:17,340 --> 00:56:20,040
things that you guys have worked
on recently they

930
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,400
Hey easy easy easy we got good
guy we got budgets to take care

931
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,920
of here you know we got stuff
that we got to do we got to

932
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,920
stop here's the deal what this
last event especially the Boston

933
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,010
bombing thing It makes us look
like idiots

934
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:39,060
But hold on a second this was
this was not our this was not

935
00:56:39,060 --> 00:56:41,340
our fault we had everything
there was no one who was

936
00:56:41,340 --> 00:56:44,220
supposed to light anything off
we were good to go on this

937
00:56:44,250 --> 00:56:47,130
you know that Japanese boy toy
been hanging around with and

938
00:56:47,130 --> 00:56:50,820
exchanging emails with you know,
you want that to get out. You

939
00:56:50,820 --> 00:56:54,870
guys have better stop doing
these things because we have to

940
00:56:54,930 --> 00:56:58,680
our job is to prevent anything
from happening because we're

941
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,780
plugged in to everything it
looks like we're a bunch of

942
00:57:00,780 --> 00:57:04,440
boneheads if you blow something
up again. So unless you want to

943
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,950
get blown up by us, quite a bit
of startup,

944
00:57:08,009 --> 00:57:10,139
wait a minute, why are you
blackmailing me? You telling me

945
00:57:10,139 --> 00:57:11,849
you got pictures of me and my
boy?

946
00:57:12,299 --> 00:57:14,399
Yeah, videos, dude.

947
00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:21,720
I knew I shouldn't have accepted
that teddy bear. Anyway, that's

948
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,770
okay. No. Okay, so you so you're
saying that they will not slide

949
00:57:25,770 --> 00:57:29,070
something off because they're
being blackmailed by the NSA.

950
00:57:29,580 --> 00:57:31,980
I think they can't light
something off because if they

951
00:57:31,980 --> 00:57:36,420
do, it's going to ruin the NSA
is game of spying on everybody.

952
00:57:36,510 --> 00:57:38,940
Now there is a moment I think
there is an opportunity, a

953
00:57:38,940 --> 00:57:42,030
window of opportunity, because
I'm listening to Hayden at some

954
00:57:42,030 --> 00:57:44,100
of these guys. And it was a
really good thing that you

955
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:47,220
missed. Because you were in
Japan, but there were two parts

956
00:57:47,250 --> 00:57:50,250
of the United States of secrecy
on

957
00:57:50,310 --> 00:57:54,030
Oh, no. I haven't downloaded for
the plane ride back. Yeah.

958
00:57:54,420 --> 00:57:57,690
You'll you'll enjoy. The second
part is a potboiler. They

959
00:57:57,690 --> 00:58:01,380
actually the first part is good.
The second part is like It's

960
00:58:01,380 --> 00:58:03,270
like one of these things where
they put I think it was an hour

961
00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:05,760
and a half the first part and a
bias by

962
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,880
the way Divorce Act of work. You
may want to you may not want to

963
00:58:08,910 --> 00:58:12,630
sit there get in the hot tub
with the cover on. Just letting

964
00:58:12,630 --> 00:58:12,960
you know.

965
00:58:13,050 --> 00:58:18,690
Yeah. Well, we got more money
than you do. That's so the thing

966
00:58:18,690 --> 00:58:22,470
is, is you have you had the
first part, which is the long

967
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:24,900
episode and then they did a
second one, which I think was an

968
00:58:24,900 --> 00:58:26,820
hour and they ran out of
material about

969
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,530
15 minutes into it. Okay, yeah,
hate it. Okay, whatever. And

970
00:58:31,530 --> 00:58:33,660
then the music bits get longer
with no

971
00:58:33,660 --> 00:58:37,230
narration. Yeah. And so Hayden
is, you know, discussing

972
00:58:37,230 --> 00:58:38,160
something that long,

973
00:58:38,190 --> 00:58:41,760
long drawn shots of empty wet
streets and alleyways.

974
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,240
Those are the heinous in there.
And so he's so I'm thinking that

975
00:58:45,540 --> 00:58:51,600
this possibility for June 15 the
next opportunity for an event is

976
00:58:51,630 --> 00:58:54,630
because because Hayden pulled
the union, the best part of the

977
00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:59,190
second thing is hate and pull
the old cowboy analogy. He says,

978
00:58:59,190 --> 00:59:01,620
Well, you know, and it's
essentially from a cowboy movie,

979
00:59:01,890 --> 00:59:04,470
the cowboy and he doesn't say
it's from a cowboy movie. He

980
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:07,230
says it some other way. But it's
from a cowboy movie. It's an old

981
00:59:07,230 --> 00:59:11,130
melodrama theme and it goes like
this. The town's out of control

982
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,800
people are killing each other to
tough Sheriff comes into town,

983
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,490
cleans up the mess shoots other
bad guys. And then you know, now

984
00:59:17,490 --> 00:59:19,080
he's the sheriff. And and

985
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,650
he's standing against the screw
Miss Elia above the saloon.

986
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,410
But he knows what happens is he
gets run out of town, because

987
00:59:25,410 --> 00:59:28,920
he's too strict. Ah, gotcha. We
don't need you anymore. So you

988
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,590
think well, why are we paying
this guy? Everything's cleared

989
00:59:31,590 --> 00:59:34,350
up. Yeah. And then they fire him
because they don't need him

990
00:59:34,350 --> 00:59:36,330
anymore. So he gets screwed out
of the deal. And this is

991
00:59:36,330 --> 00:59:39,210
essentially what Hayden saying
is happening to the NSA. They've

992
00:59:39,210 --> 00:59:42,810
protected us from all this
stuff. And now that data and now

993
00:59:42,810 --> 00:59:45,360
they're gonna they want us to
cut back and we're gonna, you

994
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:49,020
know, some bad's gonna happen is
the great scare the public

995
00:59:49,020 --> 00:59:53,580
tactic, Joe, I think there's a
slight window that the NSA and

996
00:59:53,580 --> 00:59:57,270
the FBI can be together on and
have something horrible happen

997
00:59:57,540 --> 00:59:59,820
and and then blame it on
Snowden.

998
01:00:00,329 --> 01:00:07,289
Haha well Snowden is is is he's
a marked man. There is no doubt

999
01:00:07,289 --> 01:00:10,289
about it. In fact, I've been
against better judgement but you

1000
01:00:10,289 --> 01:00:14,339
know, I kind of had to I've been
reading our our granary era,

1001
01:00:15,299 --> 01:00:20,309
Greenwald's book. And it very
clearly states that as he was

1002
01:00:20,339 --> 01:00:26,129
vetting the legitimacy of
Greenwald of the of Snowden that

1003
01:00:26,129 --> 01:00:32,429
he sent him his CIA badge
number. Id let me repeat that.

1004
01:00:32,459 --> 01:00:38,639
See I A. That is NSA ID his CIA
ID. Does anyone read these

1005
01:00:38,639 --> 01:00:45,779
books? CIA, this is our theory
that this is an NSA CIA feud is

1006
01:00:45,779 --> 01:00:48,329
so right on this. It's so right
on.

1007
01:00:48,570 --> 01:00:51,060
Yeah. And then of course, when
they had the long interview with

1008
01:00:51,060 --> 01:00:54,270
Snowden it was never played in
the United States. No, no, it

1009
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,120
wasn't only in Germany. Yeah, it
was played in Germany and and

1010
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,790
once you watch it, he mentions
it was a mission.

1011
01:01:00,420 --> 01:01:04,590
Yes, No, exactly. The mission.
My mission is completed my

1012
01:01:04,590 --> 01:01:05,130
mission

1013
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:06,540
so what do you mean mission?

1014
01:01:06,570 --> 01:01:11,280
Have wonder if I still have that
clip? I might have it somewhere.

1015
01:01:11,310 --> 01:01:19,860
Yes, I have it here. Hold on a
second. I just have to put this

1016
01:01:19,980 --> 01:01:24,570
I gotta say, I'm pretty. Pretty
happy with my system here. Yeah.

1017
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,650
You ended up in Russia. Many of
the intelligence community

1018
01:01:28,650 --> 01:01:32,250
suspect you made a deal
classified material

1019
01:01:32,250 --> 01:01:36,060
for scientists is the German
interviewer here in Russia,

1020
01:01:36,420 --> 01:01:40,320
the chief of the task force
investigating me as recently as

1021
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,890
December said that their
investigation had turned up no

1022
01:01:43,890 --> 01:01:48,300
evidence or indications at all
that I had any outside help or

1023
01:01:48,300 --> 01:01:54,090
contact or made a deal of any
kind to accomplish my mission I

1024
01:01:54,090 --> 01:01:54,390
worked

1025
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,020
to accomplish my mission. Hello.

1026
01:01:58,500 --> 01:02:01,290
Now there was a funny thing that
came up in that frontline piece

1027
01:02:01,290 --> 01:02:04,470
it was the apparently you know
the guy who did the article in

1028
01:02:04,470 --> 01:02:08,640
the Washington Post at Barton
Gellman yep Gelman is on there

1029
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,060
and he says that he went to you
know, I mean, we knew about this

1030
01:02:12,060 --> 01:02:15,150
I don't know if Mary was talking
about it. But Gilman went to

1031
01:02:15,150 --> 01:02:20,880
Russia met with Snowden and did
a 14 hour interview. Oh really?

1032
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:24,840
says it in this documentary and
I it shows he said it I thought

1033
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,850
to myself Wow, where's that

1034
01:02:26,970 --> 01:02:29,700
and But wasn't it the way I
understood it? The Washington

1035
01:02:29,700 --> 01:02:33,240
Post wanted nothing to do with
it or they didn't they turn it

1036
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,760
down. It doesn't really matter
if it's something else. Let me

1037
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,400
let me tell you let me tell you
something else. So the briefing

1038
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:43,740
is well this was this is so the
Greg Greg Greenwald on RAF and

1039
01:02:43,740 --> 01:02:46,710
all the interception the first
look and appear drive my car the

1040
01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:50,940
$250 million WordPress blog has
now resulted in this stellar

1041
01:02:50,940 --> 01:02:52,410
News Daily reported

1042
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,560
the National Security Agency had
been intercepting and recording

1043
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,410
nearly every cell phone call
that had taken place in the

1044
01:02:58,410 --> 01:03:00,630
Bahamas and storing them for 30
days.

1045
01:03:01,740 --> 01:03:04,740
In the Bahamas, ladies and
gentlemen, that is a

1046
01:03:04,740 --> 01:03:10,320
showstopper. Yeah, that's news.
There you go. The Bahamas. The

1047
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:16,290
Bahamas people. Come on, is that
all you've got left?

1048
01:03:16,620 --> 01:03:20,760
Before we get started the show
today? I'm reading I'm looking

1049
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,460
at the tweets because I had to I
wanted to tweet the show but I

1050
01:03:23,460 --> 01:03:25,440
can't tweet it on my regular
computer. I have to do it on the

1051
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,020
phone because I don't I can't
you don't know your password.

1052
01:03:28,050 --> 01:03:30,390
Yeah, you donate but my phone
right you have the Twitter thing

1053
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:34,230
on there. So I just did a dare.
So in there I saw those

1054
01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:37,830
Greenwald. He always likes to
retweet anything in the world

1055
01:03:37,830 --> 01:03:41,370
about him as long as it's about
him. Exactly. So he retweets

1056
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,240
with some snide remark this
Michael Kinsley review of his

1057
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:49,140
book. Oh, and it's in the New
York Times and I think when I

1058
01:03:49,140 --> 01:03:51,960
look Kinsley is probably a you
know, he's a bold slate guys

1059
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:56,430
kind of he's kind of a company
man like, company man and a jerk

1060
01:03:56,670 --> 01:04:00,450
but I'm reading this is a great
article.

1061
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,350
It is gotta be read from you got
something to share from it.

1062
01:04:04,379 --> 01:04:09,599
I had it see if I still have it
on my little phone. The he's

1063
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:14,039
just go goes after Greenwald.
Let's see here. It is good. I

1064
01:04:14,039 --> 01:04:16,709
mean, he just goes after him
with this nasty stuff. Let me

1065
01:04:16,709 --> 01:04:19,139
see if I can find that where it
begins where it's really funny.

1066
01:04:19,799 --> 01:04:21,929
Reformers can be difficult
people but they come in

1067
01:04:21,929 --> 01:04:25,379
different flavours and he goes
out to the there are narcissists

1068
01:04:25,379 --> 01:04:29,219
like Julian Assange, founder of
WikiLeaks. These are self

1069
01:04:29,309 --> 01:04:32,699
canonised, men who feel that as
saints they're entitled to

1070
01:04:32,699 --> 01:04:35,819
ignore the rules that constrain
ordinary ordinary mortals.

1071
01:04:35,969 --> 01:04:40,589
Greenwald notes indignity with
indignity that Assange has been

1072
01:04:40,589 --> 01:04:44,399
criticised along the lines well,
before he was accused of sex

1073
01:04:44,399 --> 01:04:46,709
crimes by two women and sweeten
them into someone in the way to

1074
01:04:46,709 --> 01:04:53,399
hold on their political
romantics. Greenwald in his in

1075
01:04:53,399 --> 01:04:56,429
his mind he's not a reformer,
but a ruthless revolutionary

1076
01:04:56,429 --> 01:05:02,009
Robespierre or Trotsky. Sen
regime is corrupt through and

1077
01:05:02,009 --> 01:05:05,309
through and he is the man who
will topple it. Sounding now

1078
01:05:05,309 --> 01:05:08,039
like Herbert Mark Houston is
once fashionable theory of

1079
01:05:08,039 --> 01:05:11,699
Repressive Tolerance. Greenwald
writes at the implicit bargain

1080
01:05:11,699 --> 01:05:14,729
is offered to citizens pose no
challenge. It was on his

1081
01:05:15,089 --> 01:05:17,729
mission. Look at this a long
piece by the way, I'll put

1082
01:05:17,730 --> 01:05:20,700
it in the show notes people.
Yeah, definitely. And and

1083
01:05:20,700 --> 01:05:23,760
there's there's obviously
something there is there as good

1084
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,930
to what has come out of this.
But Greenwald is he is such an

1085
01:05:27,930 --> 01:05:34,530
egomaniac. He CBC just he loves
himself so much. So and so much

1086
01:05:34,530 --> 01:05:37,350
more than getting the actual
information at Bahamas really?

1087
01:05:37,350 --> 01:05:38,730
Is that all you have left?

1088
01:05:39,780 --> 01:05:41,040
Yes, what it looks like.

1089
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,850
Anyway, quick little email. And
then we should go thanks some

1090
01:05:44,850 --> 01:05:48,480
people. This is from Andrew.
Andrew be new producer. I've

1091
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,200
been listening to no agenda 618
Episode A you've mentioned that

1092
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,510
you're not changing anyone's
mind. Just wanted to let you

1093
01:05:54,510 --> 01:05:58,590
know that you've changed my mind
on many topics. I was all in on

1094
01:05:58,590 --> 01:06:02,100
global warming warming. If you
asked me about net neutrality,

1095
01:06:02,190 --> 01:06:05,700
I'd have rallied behind it. But
I think I'm like a lot of people

1096
01:06:05,700 --> 01:06:08,610
in this country. We hear sound
bites and quick clips and just

1097
01:06:08,610 --> 01:06:12,990
assume that 97 out of 100 100
scientists can't be wrong. I

1098
01:06:12,990 --> 01:06:15,420
heard about no agenda through
twit and Linux outlaws and

1099
01:06:15,420 --> 01:06:18,030
finally decided to listen, you
too are saying things that were

1100
01:06:18,030 --> 01:06:20,610
completely against what I
believe but you said these

1101
01:06:20,610 --> 01:06:25,530
things with gasp evidence and
anti examples from the media.

1102
01:06:25,950 --> 01:06:29,880
Now I'm hooked. And while I've
only been listening since 602,

1103
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,700
I've scheduled a small monthly
donation and donated double

1104
01:06:32,700 --> 01:06:34,890
nickels on the dime a couple of
times already with serious

1105
01:06:34,890 --> 01:06:37,320
aspirations of becoming a
knight. My main reason for

1106
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:41,640
emailing though is to make sure
you know that you do change some

1107
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:45,150
people's minds and the JC Dee's
email is much harder to find

1108
01:06:45,150 --> 01:06:49,800
than yours which is probably why
you get all his hate mail I've

1109
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,990
been propagating the formula
look forward each new episode

1110
01:06:52,140 --> 01:06:56,100
and pad my time with the old
ones THANKS. i That was nice

1111
01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:56,430
email

1112
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,000
new well here's the thing when I
was given the speech yesterday I

1113
01:07:00,150 --> 01:07:02,520
did you promote the show that
you promote the show? Yeah, I

1114
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,760
mentioned the show. Good the
shows, but I didn't overdo it.

1115
01:07:05,790 --> 01:07:08,790
Now. I should have brought some
discs. I must do good work.

1116
01:07:09,180 --> 01:07:12,300
Yeah, it's just bothers me. I
had no way I gotta put them in

1117
01:07:12,300 --> 01:07:15,540
the suitcase, man. Whatever.
Anyway, so that these are some

1118
01:07:15,540 --> 01:07:19,950
questions answers at the end. So
I did it. Last question was

1119
01:07:19,950 --> 01:07:21,960
somebody what do you think of
net neutrality, blah, blah,

1120
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:26,100
blah. And so I put the first I
said, Well, the first thing is,

1121
01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:29,580
I don't believe all packets are
equal. And then I went on the

1122
01:07:29,580 --> 01:07:32,100
story about the remote control
surgeon

1123
01:07:32,130 --> 01:07:36,270
by the way. Great, great article
in PC Magazine that you wrote, I

1124
01:07:36,270 --> 01:07:38,880
tweeted, it is nice, because it
was it's kind of the no agenda

1125
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,450
analysis from both Well, we both
put together like that a lot.

1126
01:07:43,290 --> 01:07:45,450
And right and you had your
example of the surgeon like

1127
01:07:45,450 --> 01:07:47,940
yeah, be what you don't want
priority over your packets when

1128
01:07:47,940 --> 01:07:50,490
the surgeon is working on you
remotely. No, you don't want

1129
01:07:50,490 --> 01:07:51,030
that. Hmm.

1130
01:07:52,260 --> 01:07:55,140
And I had a couple other exam
that went on and Ron with this

1131
01:07:55,170 --> 01:07:59,850
negative attitude about it. And
not one person said anything

1132
01:07:59,850 --> 01:08:03,360
about it to me afterwards. Oh,
they didn't get I didn't get the

1133
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,810
guy coming up to me. This is
bullshit. You know, Larry Lessig

1134
01:08:06,810 --> 01:08:11,070
deals I never got any of that
everybody. I don't know if they

1135
01:08:11,070 --> 01:08:13,950
all agreed with me. But nobody
was arguing the point. Like if

1136
01:08:13,950 --> 01:08:16,680
you do like, I'll get all kinds
of notes from that article.

1137
01:08:16,710 --> 01:08:21,390
We're like, this is this is a
high end it real crowd. These

1138
01:08:21,390 --> 01:08:21,480
are

1139
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,719
the guys these guys understand.
Well, I do have some stuff to

1140
01:08:24,719 --> 01:08:28,589
add to your article. But first,
I would like to thank you for

1141
01:08:28,589 --> 01:08:32,069
your courage and a hearty in the
morning to you John

1142
01:08:32,069 --> 01:08:34,469
C to Allah in the morning to you
Adam curry in the morning and

1143
01:08:34,469 --> 01:08:37,379
all ships at sea boots on the
ground feet in the air subs in

1144
01:08:37,379 --> 01:08:40,079
the water. And all the days and
nights out there.

1145
01:08:40,350 --> 01:08:42,480
Yes that in the morning,
everybody in the chat room nodes

1146
01:08:42,480 --> 01:08:45,000
in the stream.com no agenda
chat.net Thank you very much

1147
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,660
Nick the RAT for coming through
with the artwork for 618 We had

1148
01:08:48,660 --> 01:08:51,690
a small problem with the art
generate an origin art

1149
01:08:51,690 --> 01:08:55,080
generator.com. And lots of
people tweeted and an email the

1150
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,350
work and Nick nailed it can
always kind of get a couple of

1151
01:08:58,350 --> 01:09:02,250
guys you can always count on
regardless of whether the Art

1152
01:09:02,250 --> 01:09:04,590
Generator is working or not. But
just to have some great art and

1153
01:09:04,620 --> 01:09:08,400
it's always good to see Nick up
there. And I do want to quickly

1154
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:12,450
promote the the nodes in a rap
song by short fuse is now

1155
01:09:12,450 --> 01:09:13,890
available on iTunes.

1156
01:09:15,870 --> 01:09:18,390
And a couple of people that
they've beat up just know it's

1157
01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:19,080
good, right? It's gonna

1158
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,830
go live or hurt GX to who does
like music production for

1159
01:09:22,830 --> 01:09:26,070
living. I think he was convinced
that it was amazing. So it's

1160
01:09:26,070 --> 01:09:28,650
available on iTunes and there's
a link in the show notes under

1161
01:09:28,650 --> 01:09:31,470
PR you can get it from there and
I've dealt with they'll send

1162
01:09:31,470 --> 01:09:35,340
some of the some of the VIG to
us after Apple takes their cut.

1163
01:09:36,570 --> 01:09:41,790
So today is what are we Thursday
and how did we do do we get a

1164
01:09:41,790 --> 01:09:46,260
couple of producers here some
Executive Associate execs guys

1165
01:09:46,260 --> 01:09:51,570
we got for starters, we got
Andrew Sir Andrew largeman 515

1166
01:09:51,570 --> 01:09:54,720
bucks. He's in Taiwan, II
whoops. This is interesting

1167
01:09:54,750 --> 01:09:57,180
because I'm on that little bitty
laptop. I couldn't find my other

1168
01:09:57,180 --> 01:10:01,260
one I had to take this one which
kinda let me let me switch

1169
01:10:01,260 --> 01:10:04,290
switch a couple of cells around
here so I can read this thing

1170
01:10:04,290 --> 01:10:09,210
without Okay. Oops, that's not
the right one. There's no I

1171
01:10:09,210 --> 01:10:10,920
can't tell see the city's Hold
on

1172
01:10:16,770 --> 01:10:17,790
This is going well.

1173
01:10:18,150 --> 01:10:20,520
Let's get I'm getting there. I'm
getting there. I still can't

1174
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,980
read this. Okay, let me I just
gonna have to slide over.

1175
01:10:23,430 --> 01:10:31,470
Anyway, he says ITM this FY 15
for May 15 donation is FY 15 for

1176
01:10:31,470 --> 01:10:34,860
May 15. And it's a good idea.
Just to wish Adam a smooth and

1177
01:10:34,860 --> 01:10:38,040
fruitful trip and Tokyo Adams
Tokyo notes and observations on

1178
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,680
his blog are fun to read
everyone go to see that

1179
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,260
curry.com/blog I guess?

1180
01:10:44,730 --> 01:10:51,210
No, just go to tokyo.no agenda
notes.com tokyo.no

1181
01:10:51,210 --> 01:10:54,540
agenda notes.com Just what I
said I'd like to request an Al

1182
01:10:54,540 --> 01:10:58,650
Sharpton resist we much followed
by Charlie Rose it's in your

1183
01:10:58,650 --> 01:11:01,920
DNA. And then biodiversity

1184
01:11:02,849 --> 01:11:06,959
Do we have the Sharpton resist
we much should I have no

1185
01:11:06,959 --> 01:11:18,569
conflict? Resist don't I don't
know if I still have that one.

1186
01:11:18,989 --> 01:11:22,529
Okay, well, we played that no
conflict. And then he wanted

1187
01:11:22,529 --> 01:11:25,079
Charlie Rose in the DNA. And
then what else did he want? He

1188
01:11:25,079 --> 01:11:29,279
wanted to best podcast,
university biodiversity. No real

1189
01:11:29,279 --> 01:11:33,599
conference call me about the
sexuality. It's in your DNA.

1190
01:11:39,090 --> 01:11:43,380
And the karma, you've got karma?
I don't know where the I gotta

1191
01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:43,980
find that.

1192
01:11:44,220 --> 01:11:47,340
Yeah, you should. Ryan marriage
in Hoboken, New Jersey comes up

1193
01:11:47,340 --> 01:11:51,120
with $420.33 I can't find a note
from him. But whatever the case

1194
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,100
is, let's give him a karma. And
that

1195
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:56,700
is a stone nation, obviously. So
that's a stone nation. You've

1196
01:11:56,700 --> 01:11:58,050
got karma.

1197
01:12:01,260 --> 01:12:08,340
Another stone nation, anonymous
from Clinton Township, Michigan,

1198
01:12:08,340 --> 01:12:14,640
which is nearby for 2033. The
officials donation amount and

1199
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:18,330
others donation, which is at
least we're getting those every

1200
01:12:18,330 --> 01:12:21,480
so often. It's funny. Let me
contrast. I just

1201
01:12:22,740 --> 01:12:26,250
had a meeting here in in Tokyo
with a Dutch with at the Dutch

1202
01:12:26,250 --> 01:12:30,000
embassy. Yeah, and I was good.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what

1203
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,800
they're supposed to do. You
know, they're supposed to help

1204
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:41,640
people with and yeah, please
come at 420 I was very tempted.

1205
01:12:42,450 --> 01:12:44,370
It's like yeah,

1206
01:12:44,370 --> 01:12:53,310
I'll be there for 20 Amen, I'll
make it on the year, I finally

1207
01:12:53,310 --> 01:12:56,700
got a real salary programming
job. So now I make 100% more

1208
01:12:56,700 --> 01:12:58,980
than any previous time in my
life who needs College?

1209
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:02,550
Therefore, I figured I can stop
being a douchebag. So therefore

1210
01:13:02,580 --> 01:13:08,910
equals they are conjunctions so
why stop saying so? Not and? Or

1211
01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:11,550
because it's not used as a
conjunction when you use it the

1212
01:13:11,550 --> 01:13:16,950
beginning of a sentence to
stall. Anyway, he that's it. He

1213
01:13:16,950 --> 01:13:22,620
doesn't ask for any request.
Think about our complaining.

1214
01:13:22,770 --> 01:13:25,500
What was what was the Sharpton
clip our guy wanted again?

1215
01:13:27,090 --> 01:13:31,230
The what was it? Oh, now I gotta
go back

1216
01:13:31,230 --> 01:13:35,550
conflict was it I have much?
Resist? We much

1217
01:13:35,580 --> 01:13:39,330
we resist we much. That's one
where you just botched the whole

1218
01:13:39,330 --> 01:13:40,530
thing. That's an old clip.

1219
01:13:41,190 --> 01:13:44,340
I do have to I gotta put that in
the system. Okay, I just don't

1220
01:13:44,340 --> 01:13:46,770
have it here. Sorry. It's it.
We're mobile. We're mobiles.

1221
01:13:46,860 --> 01:13:52,920
Okay, Ben. So Spencer Pearson in
Columbia, Missouri, for 2033

1222
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:56,250
Another stone nation. In The
Morning John and Adam been

1223
01:13:56,250 --> 01:13:58,740
listening. He says just before
Christmas and have fallen in

1224
01:13:58,740 --> 01:14:02,130
love with the show. It's insane
to see how many media sources

1225
01:14:02,130 --> 01:14:06,300
even many of the comedy didn't.
Isn't this from last week? I

1226
01:14:06,300 --> 01:14:09,510
don't remember this one. Yeah,
cuz I remember him saying the

1227
01:14:09,510 --> 01:14:12,120
pod comedy podcasts end up
repeating some of the show.

1228
01:14:12,390 --> 01:14:15,570
Bullcrap means that mainstream
media is cooked up and dished

1229
01:14:15,570 --> 01:14:18,360
out between atoms. Don't you
don't remember this.

1230
01:14:19,230 --> 01:14:23,370
It's right now it's 1:26am. What
do you think I'm doing here?

1231
01:14:23,490 --> 01:14:29,610
This is the one word that I read
as a stoner. Ah, yeah. He wants

1232
01:14:29,610 --> 01:14:31,410
to creepy Charlie Rose
sexualities.

1233
01:14:31,410 --> 01:14:35,100
Yeah. Okay. I don't know how
that crept into the. Okay. Well,

1234
01:14:35,580 --> 01:14:37,470
all right. Well, thank you
again, Spencer.

1235
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:44,190
Talking about stone nations,
Alicia and Scott in Ann Arbour

1236
01:14:44,190 --> 01:14:49,620
michigan 333 33. And they met up
with me. It's a cute couple.

1237
01:14:49,830 --> 01:14:50,940
She's really pretty.

1238
01:14:51,660 --> 01:14:54,390
Pictures, pictures, photographic
material.

1239
01:14:56,010 --> 01:15:00,330
They probably have them and they
just had a very short no Oh this

1240
01:15:00,330 --> 01:15:03,600
is a listen Scott in in arbour
Michigan to environment to see

1241
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:08,370
Scott later today we're gonna go
photographing the central he's

1242
01:15:08,820 --> 01:15:15,720
gonna go photographing Alicia as
well I think you dog you too

1243
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:16,650
much Hey Scott,

1244
01:15:16,650 --> 01:15:19,230
let's go hey, I got some ideas I
guess about picked up some

1245
01:15:19,230 --> 01:15:21,390
outfits of Victoria's Secret for
Alicia were

1246
01:15:21,900 --> 01:15:26,640
333 years of touring Alicia is
Dame hood. So he wants some

1247
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,070
karmas Keep up the great work.
Yeah, absolutely.

1248
01:15:29,550 --> 01:15:35,340
Thank you so much cool. You've
got karma keeping JCD busy. I

1249
01:15:35,340 --> 01:15:35,940
like that.

1250
01:15:36,420 --> 01:15:40,560
So Danis crews in Beaverton,
Oregon to Owens and he sent an

1251
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,380
email in sponsor the dead dead
man show.

1252
01:15:43,530 --> 01:15:47,040
Hot coffee.org Do you have
email?

1253
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:54,330
No, don't dig it up for the
second second reading. And that

1254
01:15:54,330 --> 01:15:58,140
was it. I get the sense that sir
Genesis is a repeat Pete to

1255
01:15:58,230 --> 01:16:01,800
anyway. I'm gonna have to Well,
if that's the case, things are

1256
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:10,710
not well. Things are not going
well for us. Okay. That's it.

1257
01:16:10,770 --> 01:16:14,400
That's it. Yeah, that's it. So
we, we move on in the second

1258
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,040
half with the other guys and
I'll look up Cruz's email, see

1259
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,810
if he's got anything in there.
All right, well,

1260
01:16:18,810 --> 01:16:23,490
we I will be travelling tomorrow
flying back. I fly back in time

1261
01:16:23,490 --> 01:16:28,230
and arrive the same day. Friday,
which means we will have a

1262
01:16:28,230 --> 01:16:31,950
regular show on Sunday. But
regular show, but nothing is and

1263
01:16:31,950 --> 01:16:34,500
I have a feeling that we're
going to do more travelling.

1264
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:39,120
Starting this year starting now.
We hopefully will come back to

1265
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:46,020
Japan. We have invites for
Australia and for Singapore and

1266
01:16:46,020 --> 01:16:51,450
for Shanghai. And I think we
should do it i People seem to

1267
01:16:51,450 --> 01:16:55,800
really like it when we're on the
road. To the to the show I don't

1268
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,670
think suffers greatly. We're
still we were still able to

1269
01:16:59,670 --> 01:17:02,250
assassinate media, but it also
gives an extra slant

1270
01:17:02,759 --> 01:17:05,519
and how we should plan a couple
things every so often, I

1271
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:09,840
think. But yeah, every every cup
every at least every six weeks,

1272
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,820
every two months, I think will
be good.

1273
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,880
Yeah, I think my next trip, I'll
take a trip up to Chico,

1274
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,540
California and check out the
college there. And I'm going to

1275
01:17:18,540 --> 01:17:22,740
be going to, I'm also thinking
of maybe taking a trip down to

1276
01:17:22,740 --> 01:17:25,800
Bakersfield. I think I could
spend some time there. That'd be

1277
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:26,130
cool.

1278
01:17:26,220 --> 01:17:29,790
I'm gonna go to Dallas, I'm
going to ham calm in June.

1279
01:17:31,590 --> 01:17:36,960
It'll be very interesting. Join
me at ham comm.org/a.

1280
01:17:37,020 --> 01:17:39,540
Of course, besides your
financial donations, we always

1281
01:17:39,540 --> 01:17:43,740
appreciate your propagating the
formula. Our formula is this. We

1282
01:17:43,740 --> 01:17:46,080
go out, we hit people in the
mouth.

1283
01:17:58,290 --> 01:18:00,540
And I remind them, I want to
remind people that go to

1284
01:18:00,540 --> 01:18:05,220
divorce.org/nhl divorce.com/and
a no agenda show.com and Dogen

1285
01:18:05,250 --> 01:18:08,220
nation.com have donate buttons.
And we do have a show on Sunday.

1286
01:18:08,220 --> 01:18:11,850
And our Sundays have been pretty
paltry, and hopefully get a good

1287
01:18:11,850 --> 01:18:14,280
chance to get your executive
producer ship in. Yes.

1288
01:18:14,580 --> 01:18:19,260
And I want to once again thank
de mastered and Sir Mark, and

1289
01:18:19,260 --> 01:18:23,700
their respective spouses for
taking such good care of us in

1290
01:18:23,700 --> 01:18:27,060
every single aspect. And if
you're ever in Tokyo, and you're

1291
01:18:27,060 --> 01:18:29,850
part of the no agenda family,
and by the way, if you call

1292
01:18:29,850 --> 01:18:32,280
their office, you know, don't be
like Yeah, can I just talk to

1293
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,520
them? Now you have to say like
in the morning or no agenda or

1294
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:43,410
something? They won't talk to
Astrid. No. No, you might want

1295
01:18:43,410 --> 01:18:48,300
to mention this for no agenda.
And these are the very, very

1296
01:18:48,300 --> 01:18:52,590
special people that I have to
say friends. And I don't use

1297
01:18:52,590 --> 01:18:54,870
that term lightly. And I we're
not even friends.

1298
01:18:55,380 --> 01:18:58,020
Yeah. No chance.

1299
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:03,270
I wanted to add something to the
packet inequality a conversation

1300
01:19:03,270 --> 01:19:06,240
we have we've we've pretty much
beat this horse to death. Horse.

1301
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,500
Yeah. Well, the there was
something happened that that

1302
01:19:12,030 --> 01:19:15,000
gave me one more little piece of
insight that I thought was

1303
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:21,360
interesting to add. So we all
understand what is going on. And

1304
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:28,230
it happened after this week in
law, which I never watch. But

1305
01:19:28,230 --> 01:19:30,480
everyone told me Oh, you got to
watch this. You got to watch

1306
01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:35,190
this. This is part of the twit
network. And Denise Howell is on

1307
01:19:35,190 --> 01:19:44,160
the show. Who I like as a person
as a host. She's shit. And she's

1308
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,920
a beautiful woman don't put the
big headphones on her with a

1309
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:51,330
microphone in front of her face.
This is unnecessary. I noticed

1310
01:19:51,330 --> 01:19:53,100
since 2014

1311
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,730
Yeah, what year are we in here?
You can meet these cans as they

1312
01:19:56,730 --> 01:20:01,080
like to Oh big cans on her head
and she's pretty You know, and

1313
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:02,010
she's good looking woman.

1314
01:20:03,060 --> 01:20:06,990
And it's just it's distracting
and I'm sure she's, she knows

1315
01:20:06,990 --> 01:20:10,350
her stuff when it comes to law
and everything, but it just

1316
01:20:10,890 --> 01:20:14,610
didn't work for me. So she had
one of my least favourite people

1317
01:20:14,610 --> 01:20:20,490
on Nilay Patel, who he was on my
last this week and twit this

1318
01:20:20,490 --> 01:20:23,730
week in tech this week on twit
this week in tech, when nine

1319
01:20:23,730 --> 01:20:27,420
Yeah, after I got kicked off for
good band from the band from the

1320
01:20:27,420 --> 01:20:32,610
airwaves. Yeah. And he's
annoying. He's a lawyer. But

1321
01:20:32,610 --> 01:20:35,640
he's one of these works with the
verge. And all those guys over

1322
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,920
there. They're all huffy, puffy,
you know, they got venture

1323
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:39,750
capital monies, they think
they're all waiting until you

1324
01:20:39,750 --> 01:20:43,110
run out of that. So they think
they're all though they'll do

1325
01:20:43,110 --> 01:20:47,160
that in the bag of chips. And
he's on there pontificating

1326
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:52,230
about net neutrality and the
evil common, and he can't even

1327
01:20:52,230 --> 01:20:55,650
explain how the two Democrats
have voted well below the

1328
01:20:55,650 --> 01:21:00,090
Democrats had to vote for they
had to say yes, because the

1329
01:21:00,090 --> 01:21:03,360
three Democrats who say they had
to vote yes. Because, you know,

1330
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,840
it's like, it's not exactly what
they want, either. Yes. It's not

1331
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,180
exactly what ya know exactly
what they want. But you know,

1332
01:21:09,210 --> 01:21:12,870
they have to get go. And somehow
it's very hard time explaining

1333
01:21:12,870 --> 01:21:15,900
why you know, why they want this
regulation.

1334
01:21:16,379 --> 01:21:19,079
Yeah, why did and why the two
Democrats voted for it. The two

1335
01:21:19,079 --> 01:21:21,989
Republicans voted against. It
has all the liberals like.

1336
01:21:24,180 --> 01:21:29,880
What? Exactly. And then they
bring on this guy, Bert, Baron

1337
01:21:30,420 --> 01:21:36,030
Zoca. Baron Zoca. And he is from
an outfit called Tech freedom, a

1338
01:21:36,030 --> 01:21:40,710
nonprofit. Oh, boy, you know how
much I love that. Bow. Let me go

1339
01:21:40,710 --> 01:21:44,070
look into this nonprofit. But
before I get to that, I'm just

1340
01:21:44,070 --> 01:21:46,470
going to play the very end. And
I was very surprised because

1341
01:21:46,470 --> 01:21:50,580
Baron Zoca. Is he starts off by
saying, Well, this net

1342
01:21:50,580 --> 01:21:54,600
neutrality debate is a hoax.
Like yeah, that's good. Yeah.

1343
01:21:54,630 --> 01:21:57,930
All right. You got my attention.
It's like this is a hoax. This

1344
01:21:57,930 --> 01:22:00,720
whole thing is a hoax. It just
came out. And it didn't really

1345
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,840
come out of nowhere. He actually
put me onto a path to figure out

1346
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,960
why this all happened. I just
wanted to play at the very end

1347
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:12,330
just so you can kind of hear how
the conversation ended with

1348
01:22:12,540 --> 01:22:17,640
Nilay Patel, who was no match
for this guy. I felt it Miss

1349
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,730
Miss Mickey was listening to me
while I was watching listen to

1350
01:22:20,730 --> 01:22:25,350
her while I was watching it on
Monday or whatever. Or two. I

1351
01:22:25,350 --> 01:22:28,500
can't remember what day it was.
It was finally I hear just some

1352
01:22:28,500 --> 01:22:30,870
people talking about something
that was it was a very

1353
01:22:30,870 --> 01:22:34,560
interesting conversation. But
here's how Neela thinks that

1354
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,140
he's hung up and he's all pissed
off, which the guy is, but he

1355
01:22:37,140 --> 01:22:40,200
didn't. And then you kind of
hear what a bad sport Patel is.

1356
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:44,400
And how this Baron zuka Zoca guy
I like him. I like what he's

1357
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:44,670
doing.

1358
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,240
But we're not going to forget
this show anytime soon. And I'm

1359
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,300
not going to forget how grateful
I am. That you were able to join

1360
01:22:51,300 --> 01:22:51,690
us today.

1361
01:22:51,690 --> 01:22:53,970
And Eli? Yeah, I enjoyed it. And
Baron, I enjoyed the

1362
01:22:53,970 --> 01:22:56,010
conversation as heated as it
might have become. It's a good

1363
01:22:56,010 --> 01:23:01,290
one. Yeah, me too. And really,
really, really no, Baron still

1364
01:23:01,290 --> 01:23:03,000
here. I think, Baron, you're
still here. Right?

1365
01:23:03,330 --> 01:23:05,550
Well, I have to say I don't
enjoy this conversation. I would

1366
01:23:05,550 --> 01:23:08,100
rather have a conversation about
how to promote broadband

1367
01:23:08,100 --> 01:23:10,650
deployment and how to actually
write a new Telecom Act that

1368
01:23:10,650 --> 01:23:13,500
makes sense in the real world.
I'm tired as you can probably

1369
01:23:13,500 --> 01:23:17,070
tell. I'm talking about
imaginary problems and imaginary

1370
01:23:17,070 --> 01:23:20,760
legal authority for the FCC to
solve them. Yeah, no, you're a

1371
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,400
great guy. I gotta go. Talk to
you soon. Thank you.

1372
01:23:23,790 --> 01:23:28,110
You're a great guy. Dose. Oh,
total. That was.

1373
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,200
That was That was funny. I liked
hearing that. It was very funny.

1374
01:23:34,230 --> 01:23:34,530
Okay,

1375
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:39,750
so. And I looked into this, this
barren guys, outfit tech

1376
01:23:39,750 --> 01:23:45,150
freedom, very small nonprofit.
They're doing about and I have

1377
01:23:45,150 --> 01:23:48,600
to say I couldn't find their
990s and I tweeted him and

1378
01:23:48,990 --> 01:23:52,800
someone got back to me. And they
sent me the 2011 and said, Hey,

1379
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,520
man, send me the 2000. They sent
the 2012 they changed her name.

1380
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,310
That's why it didn't show up in
the regular places. And very

1381
01:23:59,310 --> 01:24:03,420
small. I mean, and it's it's
being run out of a two room

1382
01:24:03,420 --> 01:24:09,000
condo in DC, which I'm going to
think is is Barron's condo. And

1383
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:14,670
they did like 380,000 in 2011
Did a little more in 2012. They

1384
01:24:14,670 --> 01:24:19,620
may have done a lot more but
500,000 And of course he's taken

1385
01:24:19,620 --> 01:24:22,920
a salary and so the money is not
a lot of money, but it's a think

1386
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:27,960
tank. And and although you don't
know where the money's coming

1387
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,860
from, if you look at his past,
it seems pretty obvious. It's at

1388
01:24:31,860 --> 01:24:36,270
least coming from Google. You
can you can because he actually

1389
01:24:36,300 --> 01:24:39,330
he tweeted me something I was
going to ask you. He said are

1390
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:42,510
our donations come from Big
Tent. Are you familiar with this

1391
01:24:42,510 --> 01:24:43,650
phrase Big Tent.

1392
01:24:46,260 --> 01:24:48,480
I've heard that Nagi mentioned
I've heard the phrase but I had

1393
01:24:48,480 --> 01:24:50,880
no idea what it means. Big Tent.

1394
01:24:50,910 --> 01:24:54,300
I couldn't quite figure out what
he meant by Big Tent. And I

1395
01:24:54,300 --> 01:24:55,830
didn't want to seem like an
idiot and say

1396
01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:00,570
hi. Did you have you googled it
to see what Big Tent Yeah,

1397
01:25:00,630 --> 01:25:05,070
you get a whole bunch of weird
stuff that Not really. There's,

1398
01:25:05,340 --> 01:25:08,910
there are lots of things called
Big Tent anyway, it's pretty

1399
01:25:08,910 --> 01:25:10,230
clear that, you know, he's,

1400
01:25:10,440 --> 01:25:14,250
you should have just said what
the? What is Big Tent?

1401
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,770
I figured I'd ask you I thought
I thought Daddy would know.

1402
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,170
I didn't know. Exactly.

1403
01:25:19,620 --> 01:25:22,740
So also, and then I started
looking and I think he's

1404
01:25:22,740 --> 01:25:28,920
probably he's legit in his
thinking, although he is coming

1405
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,620
from Google, but that it made a
lot of sense. And I just wanted

1406
01:25:31,620 --> 01:25:34,560
to lay this out for you as a
piece an extra piece of this

1407
01:25:34,590 --> 01:25:36,960
this because when he said hoax,
I was like, Well, you know,

1408
01:25:36,990 --> 01:25:39,000
you're right, it is a hoax. Why
did this thing all of a sudden

1409
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:43,500
heat up and is being used
primarily by outfits, like

1410
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:48,210
freedom of the press, or press
freedom, whatever it's called,

1411
01:25:48,330 --> 01:25:52,710
who have $3 million, by the way
in annual revenues, as you know,

1412
01:25:52,740 --> 01:25:56,430
they're like, literally, if you
look at their website, which is

1413
01:25:56,850 --> 01:26:00,090
home like you got to look at
this. You'll laugh? I think it's

1414
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:12,180
is it press freedom.org? Or
freedom? It's sorry,

1415
01:26:12,210 --> 01:26:14,190
look, they've had that better
prepared by depressed

1416
01:26:14,190 --> 01:26:14,880
foundation.

1417
01:26:14,910 --> 01:26:17,790
Yeah, is it freedom press.org

1418
01:26:18,810 --> 01:26:24,360
That'd be press freedom.
foundation.org there is also

1419
01:26:27,390 --> 01:26:30,450
here we go. Freedom house.org

1420
01:26:30,510 --> 01:26:34,920
press freedom. foundation.org.
Okay, I think now that may be

1421
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,800
the now that's the wrong it
doesn't matter. Sorry about

1422
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:38,100
that.

1423
01:26:38,310 --> 01:26:39,990
Wait a minute. Let me look at
the rest. It's

1424
01:26:39,990 --> 01:26:41,940
freedom. I think it's freedom
press.

1425
01:26:43,500 --> 01:26:44,970
Freedom house.org

1426
01:26:45,420 --> 01:26:48,540
Freedom press. Let me just see.
This is dumb.

1427
01:26:48,780 --> 01:26:54,240
newseum press. Well, here it is.
Press this press freedom.org.au.

1428
01:26:54,270 --> 01:26:59,610
Now no, you don't want that.
Well, I'm not kidding. Now. I'm

1429
01:26:59,610 --> 01:27:03,480
not. I'm just showed. Anyway, I
tweeted out a link for it. For

1430
01:27:03,480 --> 01:27:06,960
Christ's sake. Sorry for taking
the Lord's name in vain. But

1431
01:27:07,140 --> 01:27:08,940
there it goes to that guy in
Pittsburgh again.

1432
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,850
Let me just look at my own. My
own guy just waits for that. And

1433
01:27:11,850 --> 01:27:14,850
then he said, I know and I was
mad. He says

1434
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,480
yeah, you know what? You took
the Lord's name in vain, so I'm

1435
01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:27,060
not donating he's never donated.
Yeah, okay, here this loads are

1436
01:27:27,060 --> 01:27:30,270
coming. Here it is louds in
Michigan.

1437
01:27:31,170 --> 01:27:39,300
Here it is. I don't even know
how anyway they have on their on

1438
01:27:39,300 --> 01:27:45,240
their homepage. Save the
intranet. Donate now to us. This

1439
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:49,710
is what everyone is doing. I get
emails from don't let them slow

1440
01:27:49,710 --> 01:27:54,570
down the net.org. And you know,
donate don't let them break the

1441
01:27:54,570 --> 01:27:58,200
internet and this wouldn't Eli
Patel is also doing help unfuck

1442
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:03,180
The Internet is what he writes a
Come on. So what really happened

1443
01:28:03,180 --> 01:28:06,750
here, what really went down and
this all stems from one thing.

1444
01:28:07,410 --> 01:28:12,750
And the one thing is the
acquisition of Time Warner Cable

1445
01:28:12,750 --> 01:28:17,580
by Comcast. This is when this
really started that predates

1446
01:28:17,580 --> 01:28:23,010
this. I disagree. It predates
the Netflix issue. It predates

1447
01:28:23,010 --> 01:28:28,590
Netflix. Now check it out. Yes
it does. The Comcast Time Warner

1448
01:28:28,590 --> 01:28:32,880
Cable announcement was more
reason for no I don't think so.

1449
01:28:32,940 --> 01:28:33,720
I think so.

1450
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:34,770
I don't think so.

1451
01:28:35,010 --> 01:28:35,940
I think so. But

1452
01:28:36,059 --> 01:28:39,239
okay, we can agree to disagree
on that. Well, we

1453
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:44,550
had to get the date straight
timeline. Okay. Let's see.

1454
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,170
reference to this is

1455
01:28:49,530 --> 01:28:52,650
but how do we even do that? How
do we even find out do it

1456
01:28:52,650 --> 01:28:56,640
by writing and Time Warner
Comcast and hit the News tab and

1457
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,190
you should have the stories that
came out when they first came

1458
01:28:59,190 --> 01:29:00,030
out. They're still going

1459
01:29:00,060 --> 01:29:02,400
on but how are you going to find
out when it first came out?

1460
01:29:02,610 --> 01:29:06,510
Well, you just look for their
first apparently here is the Ars

1461
01:29:06,510 --> 01:29:11,010
Technica made may 18. Okay,
let's just keep looking for the

1462
01:29:11,130 --> 01:29:12,150
earliest date.

1463
01:29:12,210 --> 01:29:17,100
Okay, May 18. And then I'll look
I have feud over Netflix traffic

1464
01:29:17,190 --> 01:29:22,200
may 19. May 18. May 20. Right
seems okay. It seems to be

1465
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:22,920
recent.

1466
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:29,100
It almost doesn't matter for the
show. For the for the for the

1467
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:30,360
theory at least.

1468
01:29:31,440 --> 01:29:35,040
I buy eyeball Yeah, but it does
if I don't buy it. If you don't

1469
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:37,470
wait here it is here it is here.
It is way this gets back

1470
01:29:37,470 --> 01:29:40,650
further. Here's may 8. Congress
to hear concerns is when they

1471
01:29:40,650 --> 01:29:43,050
get into the congressional
thing. So we got

1472
01:29:43,380 --> 01:29:46,260
the announcement came much
earlier, John, the announcement

1473
01:29:46,260 --> 01:29:52,620
was was months ago. I think so.
But I think they I the way I

1474
01:29:52,620 --> 01:29:56,730
remember it. We first had the
Time Warner Comcast deal that

1475
01:29:56,730 --> 01:29:59,370
was announced that they were
going to do that. This is a lot.

1476
01:29:59,370 --> 01:30:00,420
This is months. Go,

1477
01:30:00,540 --> 01:30:05,550
am I okay, okay, I will stop. I
won't disagree. We'll look into

1478
01:30:05,550 --> 01:30:08,160
it. We'll look at it. You're you
might you might be right. There

1479
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:10,710
wasn't I remember there being an
early announcement and had

1480
01:30:10,710 --> 01:30:13,380
everybody all jacked up in fact
that God, I'm so jacked up, they

1481
01:30:13,380 --> 01:30:16,890
had a congressional hearing. So
and then Frank and Frank, it

1482
01:30:16,890 --> 01:30:20,700
would know, because he's all
over this thing. And I can SAS

1483
01:30:20,700 --> 01:30:24,750
call his office up, and they'll
tell me, it's DeVore I could get

1484
01:30:25,980 --> 01:30:29,670
that guy's called another or you
can call any of these offices

1485
01:30:29,670 --> 01:30:33,180
up. If you if you ask the when
the all these congressional

1486
01:30:33,180 --> 01:30:35,790
offices, you don't try to get a
hold of Franken, he's not going

1487
01:30:35,790 --> 01:30:39,030
to talk to you. But you used to
say I like to talk to one of the

1488
01:30:39,060 --> 01:30:41,280
staffers who can answer a
question.

1489
01:30:41,700 --> 01:30:45,360
Well, why don't we Why don't we
look at isn't Comcast the isn't

1490
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:51,570
that CMC t what is their signal?
Oh, that's a good cmcsa I think

1491
01:30:51,570 --> 01:31:01,170
it is their signal. Oh, what is
this signal? It's 1:42am. Okay,

1492
01:31:01,170 --> 01:31:02,010
finance,

1493
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:05,190
that you're excused every time?
It's a great excuse. You're

1494
01:31:05,190 --> 01:31:08,670
right, it wouldn't be listed in
the it would go to Yahoo. Yahoo.

1495
01:31:08,670 --> 01:31:12,180
Finance? Yes. And they will have
a listing of all the press

1496
01:31:12,180 --> 01:31:15,750
releases, and it will have that
one date, they will have, you

1497
01:31:15,750 --> 01:31:17,040
will have to keep talking while
like

1498
01:31:17,070 --> 01:31:20,250
if you go to the news. Well,
now, it's kind of irrelevant

1499
01:31:20,610 --> 01:31:26,790
headlines. But see, it's got to
be this is months ago. Anyway.

1500
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:32,520
Okay. Here is the thesis. And I
will do it in my timeline,

1501
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:36,630
whether it's true or not, but
I'm pretty sure that that came

1502
01:31:36,630 --> 01:31:39,450
first. And what really does it
mean when they're buying Time

1503
01:31:39,450 --> 01:31:43,050
Warner, they're not buying a
competitor. They're adding on to

1504
01:31:43,050 --> 01:31:45,960
their network that adding on to
more as their

1505
01:31:45,990 --> 01:31:49,650
that is their basis, the basic
argument. And

1506
01:31:49,650 --> 01:31:52,020
it's also true there. I don't
think there are any markets

1507
01:31:52,020 --> 01:31:55,350
where Comcast and Time Warner
compete. So they're essentially

1508
01:31:55,350 --> 01:31:58,260
just becoming bigger. They are
becoming a what do you call it,

1509
01:31:58,530 --> 01:32:01,710
kind of the utility monopoly but
utility

1510
01:32:01,740 --> 01:32:04,290
or utility utility, I should
mention a couple of things,

1511
01:32:04,290 --> 01:32:06,180
because that's why I would have
called frankenz office

1512
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:11,340
apparently, during this
congressional hearings, Comcast

1513
01:32:11,340 --> 01:32:14,730
made the claim that this will be
good for the customers, because

1514
01:32:14,730 --> 01:32:17,700
now that they have these, these
two operations, consolidate, you

1515
01:32:17,700 --> 01:32:20,730
know, crappy hear about this,
again, consolidate this and

1516
01:32:20,730 --> 01:32:24,090
that, and it gives them bigger
reach. And then they have, you

1517
01:32:24,090 --> 01:32:26,130
can pressure the companies to
give better deals, so their

1518
01:32:26,130 --> 01:32:27,960
customers get better deals. So
you're

1519
01:32:27,990 --> 01:32:31,680
what you're, but but from a
shareholder standpoint,

1520
01:32:32,220 --> 01:32:37,020
you will let me finish. Okay.
And so apparently, what frankenz

1521
01:32:37,230 --> 01:32:41,310
People did is they listened to
the quarterly call, and in the

1522
01:32:41,310 --> 01:32:43,680
quarterly call is just the
opposite what the guy said,

1523
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:47,010
yeah, he says, This is gonna be
great for us, we can make more

1524
01:32:47,010 --> 01:32:51,210
money we can get out you didn't
say gouge the customer. There's

1525
01:32:51,210 --> 01:32:54,120
a lot of more leverage, and we
can we will profit from this.

1526
01:32:54,660 --> 01:32:57,870
Now back to the original thesis
that this Baron Ahsoka guys

1527
01:32:57,870 --> 01:33:00,750
called it a hoax, because it did
come it came out of nowhere, but

1528
01:33:00,750 --> 01:33:05,520
it came from the Netflix
controversy, so called

1529
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:09,720
controversy. And so if you're if
you really think about this for

1530
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:14,460
a moment now, what the one thing
Comcast clearly wants is they

1531
01:33:14,460 --> 01:33:18,690
want to buy up all broadband,
they want to own at 50 or $60

1532
01:33:18,690 --> 01:33:21,690
billion, whatever they're paying
for Time Warner, whatever the

1533
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:25,140
number is, that is, you know, is
not chicken feed. This is a

1534
01:33:25,140 --> 01:33:29,010
real, this is a real big deal.
This is the mack daddy purchase

1535
01:33:29,010 --> 01:33:32,730
is a big one. And it's just
expanding their markets and

1536
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:36,210
buying a competitor, they're
expanding their markets, they

1537
01:33:36,210 --> 01:33:41,610
really want to be the ISP for
the United States. And you can

1538
01:33:41,610 --> 01:33:45,780
have nothing better, really, you
can have nothing better than to

1539
01:33:45,780 --> 01:33:51,360
be deemed a common carrier and
thus a utility, because it does

1540
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:57,000
one thing. It discourages any
competitor from entering that

1541
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:00,390
marketplace. And then and this
is the thing that people get

1542
01:34:00,390 --> 01:34:04,260
wrong. And I'm going to agree
with this Baron guy, even though

1543
01:34:04,260 --> 01:34:06,900
I'm pretty sure it's being paid
by Google, there are

1544
01:34:06,900 --> 01:34:12,360
competitors. Google is in fact,
a competitor in Austin. And they

1545
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:16,740
and how does this work? It's
it's kind of sad, but why is

1546
01:34:16,740 --> 01:34:19,950
there so little competition I
kind of buy into this argument

1547
01:34:20,370 --> 01:34:23,940
when you go into a local
municipality or into a town like

1548
01:34:23,940 --> 01:34:28,230
Austin. And you say, hey, you
know, I want to lay fibre and I

1549
01:34:28,230 --> 01:34:31,740
want to, you know, be a
competitor to Comcast or

1550
01:34:31,740 --> 01:34:34,410
whatever you have are 18 What do
you but let's just say with Time

1551
01:34:34,410 --> 01:34:36,960
Warner and Austin, and by the
way in Austin, we do have

1552
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,620
another cable company that
competes but okay. Then Austin

1553
01:34:40,620 --> 01:34:44,940
says, Yeah, that's great. As
long as you wire up the schools

1554
01:34:44,940 --> 01:34:50,010
and wire up the libraries and
wire up a wire up all of the

1555
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:54,150
government buildings. Oh, and
Suck my cock. Because this is

1556
01:34:54,150 --> 01:34:58,350
exactly what these greedy
assholes do everywhere. And if

1557
01:34:58,350 --> 01:35:01,230
you go back and you read what
happened to FiOS when they

1558
01:35:01,230 --> 01:35:06,450
basically buckled in order to
rent space on the telephone

1559
01:35:06,450 --> 01:35:09,510
poles, it was cost prohibitive
because all of these local

1560
01:35:09,510 --> 01:35:13,260
municipalities, they all want
kickbacks, they're all greedy.

1561
01:35:13,470 --> 01:35:16,290
And that's where the real
problem is now Google, they,

1562
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:20,310
they have real money and real
reach. And they're, you know,

1563
01:35:20,310 --> 01:35:23,910
what are they, they're small,
but they can become a

1564
01:35:23,910 --> 01:35:28,200
competitor. But not, if this
broadband business is going to

1565
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:33,780
be regulated as a common
carrier, as a as a utility, it's

1566
01:35:33,780 --> 01:35:38,160
not going to be interesting for
them, then any regulation,

1567
01:35:38,250 --> 01:35:40,050
they're not going to be
interested because Google's

1568
01:35:40,050 --> 01:35:43,260
model is not even necessarily on
a pure revenue basis. They want

1569
01:35:43,260 --> 01:35:46,590
to sell ads to your nest to your
fridge, which by the way, you

1570
01:35:46,590 --> 01:35:50,430
call them is totally right. They
want to sell ads everywhere. And

1571
01:35:50,430 --> 01:35:53,220
they'll probably give you free
fibre eventually, for the

1572
01:35:53,220 --> 01:35:56,340
privilege for doing that. That's
their business model. But if

1573
01:35:56,340 --> 01:35:59,880
they can't do that, because
there's regulation, then you

1574
01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:02,550
know, then they're not they're
just not going to do it. They

1575
01:36:02,550 --> 01:36:04,830
may try, you know, like the
wireless or whatever, but

1576
01:36:04,860 --> 01:36:08,310
they're not going to do it.
That's why Comcast wants this

1577
01:36:08,340 --> 01:36:13,650
enter. Reed Hastings, with his
little with a little fractious

1578
01:36:13,650 --> 01:36:19,560
over, over the over the
slowdown. Oh, well, this is

1579
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:24,660
where the net neutrality debate
came from. And if you as we

1580
01:36:24,660 --> 01:36:28,590
know, with the stupid slaves in
most countries, but certainly in

1581
01:36:28,590 --> 01:36:32,160
the United States, you know, you
can drone Americans, you can

1582
01:36:32,250 --> 01:36:35,580
have cops ripping people's heads
off shooting old people in the

1583
01:36:35,580 --> 01:36:39,780
back black ladies of 98 killing
him, but you slow down my

1584
01:36:39,780 --> 01:36:45,360
fucking Netflix, baby, I'm up in
arms. I'm changing my icon. And

1585
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:51,810
I'm getting mad. And I'm calling
I'm calling for net neutrality.

1586
01:36:52,410 --> 01:36:56,670
And then you get all of these
nonprofits, all sponsored by

1587
01:36:56,670 --> 01:37:01,260
open society, Open Society
Institute, all sorrows of stuff,

1588
01:37:01,770 --> 01:37:06,330
then God knows where it's coming
from, from family, the nonprofit

1589
01:37:06,330 --> 01:37:10,710
management agencies, all this
money flowing in everybody's all

1590
01:37:10,710 --> 01:37:16,740
riled up over a hoax, because
there is no evidence of actual

1591
01:37:19,050 --> 01:37:25,080
degradation based upon do their
content versus my content. It's

1592
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:30,900
just it's just really not true.
It's all made up. Except for the

1593
01:37:30,900 --> 01:37:31,830
Netflix thing.

1594
01:37:32,370 --> 01:37:35,880
And isn't it interesting? And it
was Netflix a really initiate.

1595
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:36,510
Thank you.

1596
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:39,450
And would it be interesting, if
Netflix have now they have some

1597
01:37:39,450 --> 01:37:43,380
kind of deal and they're working
it down, and they're, you know,

1598
01:37:43,380 --> 01:37:46,110
maybe they can figure something
out with Comcast, maybe they

1599
01:37:46,110 --> 01:37:52,170
become the new default video on
demand service? For Comcast,

1600
01:37:52,170 --> 01:37:55,500
it'd be that is not beyond the
realm of possibility these guys

1601
01:37:55,500 --> 01:38:01,830
have been working together from
day one, from day one, purposely

1602
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:04,740
making this happen to stir up
this debate to get the

1603
01:38:04,740 --> 01:38:09,270
regulation. And I agree that
this is this should not be this

1604
01:38:09,270 --> 01:38:12,780
should be Congress, this should
not be the FCC. Congress should

1605
01:38:12,810 --> 01:38:15,240
should, should be making up any
if there's gonna be laws, it

1606
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:18,540
should be Congress. But it's
going to be a nightmare if the

1607
01:38:18,540 --> 01:38:23,220
FCC is really going to try and
regulate this. But I think that

1608
01:38:23,220 --> 01:38:29,430
this is one big setup, to remove
all competition and so far

1609
01:38:29,430 --> 01:38:34,530
playing out beautifully. So the
only thing that I could if I'm

1610
01:38:34,530 --> 01:38:37,290
wrong about the timing of it,
and I really thought the Netflix

1611
01:38:37,290 --> 01:38:40,380
thing came later at least I was
aware of it later than I than I

1612
01:38:40,380 --> 01:38:44,400
was have the Time Warner
acquisition. I'm going to call

1613
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:47,190
setup and say these guys were
working together.

1614
01:38:47,670 --> 01:38:50,310
Well, the Time Warner thing has
to go through before you can

1615
01:38:50,310 --> 01:38:51,420
confirm your theory.

1616
01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:59,700
Correct. But even with Comcast
is big. And in people keep

1617
01:38:59,700 --> 01:39:03,990
saying VA we need local loop
unbundled like in the UK Oh

1618
01:39:03,990 --> 01:39:06,840
really? Is that really what you
want where everybody's using the

1619
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:09,390
same pipes and all the
government has to do is not is

1620
01:39:09,390 --> 01:39:14,820
closed on one pipe instead of
14. And that end, the content

1621
01:39:14,820 --> 01:39:20,610
blocking in the UK is very real.
That's real content blocking it

1622
01:39:20,610 --> 01:39:23,280
begins and then you have to buy
bundles and you'd be forced to

1623
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:27,150
buy Virgin Mobile with your
virgin internet screw that you

1624
01:39:27,150 --> 01:39:30,120
don't want local loop unbundled.
There is possible there is a

1625
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:34,590
chance for real competition. But
not as this thing is. He is a

1626
01:39:34,590 --> 01:39:38,370
util I think Google I'm no fan
of Google as you know but I

1627
01:39:38,370 --> 01:39:42,150
think that they really can be a
competitor. They are doing it in

1628
01:39:42,150 --> 01:39:45,480
Austin. They are doing it in
Utah they are doing it in as

1629
01:39:45,480 --> 01:39:48,300
their as another southern state
to Kentucky I think

1630
01:39:48,570 --> 01:39:50,880
they're doing it all over here
and there but

1631
01:39:52,020 --> 01:39:55,170
but look at Austin's a very
interesting market. We have a

1632
01:39:55,170 --> 01:40:01,590
competing cable company. We have
18 t now has their giga, giga,

1633
01:40:01,620 --> 01:40:08,130
giga, giga Cooper, which is
their super fast hydromatic

1634
01:40:08,130 --> 01:40:12,540
thing, which is their version of
Google fibre. We have Google

1635
01:40:12,540 --> 01:40:15,600
fibre coming in. We have
Comcast, there is some real

1636
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:20,340
competition. It's there. And
everyone keeps saying, Oh, well,

1637
01:40:20,340 --> 01:40:23,370
there's no competition. Well,
no, but I can guarantee you one

1638
01:40:23,370 --> 01:40:27,240
thing, if you turn this into a
utility, and the government

1639
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:30,060
regulates it, you're not going
to have any competition Correct.

1640
01:40:30,510 --> 01:40:33,360
You will not have the battle
that turns it into the power can

1641
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:36,750
you choose from different power
companies where you are? Or

1642
01:40:36,750 --> 01:40:37,530
different water?

1643
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:41,730
There was a moment no water not
No way. But there was a moment

1644
01:40:41,730 --> 01:40:47,070
trash? No, no, we got waste
management WM where the mob?

1645
01:40:47,130 --> 01:40:52,140
Yeah, yeah. And they they run
it. They do a great job. So just

1646
01:40:52,140 --> 01:40:55,380
like but again, it's the no your
trash deal is one deal. There's

1647
01:40:55,380 --> 01:40:56,700
no competitive trash

1648
01:40:56,700 --> 01:40:59,550
on this from the chat room from
the chat room. I have Time

1649
01:40:59,550 --> 01:41:09,900
Warner Comcast. February 13.
Netflix, February 24. If that's

1650
01:41:09,900 --> 01:41:11,580
true, that's pretty uncanny.

1651
01:41:13,020 --> 01:41:18,390
Yeah, after that close. So one
two punch to get the attention

1652
01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:23,730
of the of the community of
freaks. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah.

1653
01:41:23,730 --> 01:41:25,530
I mean, if you look at who
invented the term net

1654
01:41:25,530 --> 01:41:27,990
neutrality, I mean, it was like,
I suppose the Whoo. But then

1655
01:41:27,990 --> 01:41:31,740
again, it wasn't, I mean, it was
his coinage. But then he didn't

1656
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,860
was not an agreement with it
with the thesis that says,

1657
01:41:35,190 --> 01:41:39,150
That's devolved into what it is.
And you have the same guys, you

1658
01:41:39,150 --> 01:41:42,870
know, that are bitching and
moaning and is mostly hysterics.

1659
01:41:42,900 --> 01:41:43,950
I mean, that's the key

1660
01:41:44,700 --> 01:41:49,560
hoax. And it's being used as a
political tool to get people to

1661
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:52,830
vote vote for me, I'll save the
internet. And literally, there

1662
01:41:52,830 --> 01:41:59,580
are just scores, which I think
is is a score 144

1663
01:42:00,509 --> 01:42:05,819
scores? I don't know it's it's
sort of war Four score and seven

1664
01:42:05,819 --> 01:42:08,789
years. It's no, it's

1665
01:42:08,790 --> 01:42:14,190
more than one. And there are
several the several, several

1666
01:42:14,190 --> 01:42:18,150
nonprofits, which are not
nonprofits. If you don't, if you

1667
01:42:18,150 --> 01:42:21,570
click the donate button, it goes
to another nonprofit, than to

1668
01:42:21,570 --> 01:42:24,750
not to their nonprofit or their
Action Fund. The whole It's, uh,

1669
01:42:24,810 --> 01:42:28,590
I, you know, I look at this
stuff. And it's just the

1670
01:42:28,620 --> 01:42:32,370
$250,000 a year it's like one
guys is, you know, gets that

1671
01:42:32,370 --> 01:42:35,730
money. Or one girl, I think in
this case, in the slow doubt,

1672
01:42:35,730 --> 01:42:40,230
don't don't let them slow down
the net.org. Me on that just

1673
01:42:40,230 --> 01:42:45,480
raising money for themselves.
And bit, but then it really

1674
01:42:45,480 --> 01:42:48,960
nothing has really happened, but
nothing has really did. Nothing

1675
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:53,160
has really happened. They made a

1676
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:56,520
fuss. Yeah, send us money, and
we'll make a fuss.

1677
01:42:56,940 --> 01:43:00,690
So I Yeah. But anyway, they'd
kind of made me happy because

1678
01:43:00,690 --> 01:43:03,540
I'm thinking of at least someone
else's thinking this way, even

1679
01:43:03,540 --> 01:43:06,210
though he's probably being paid
by Google. And maybe I don't

1680
01:43:06,210 --> 01:43:09,840
know who else maybe he is, you
know, no, no, I don't know. But

1681
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:13,500
he's, if you look at the Google
fellow programme, the tech

1682
01:43:13,500 --> 01:43:15,960
freedom is listed on it, you can
get a fellowship

1683
01:43:16,230 --> 01:43:19,590
to think a TNT would be the guys
that would be big. Now he's

1684
01:43:19,590 --> 01:43:19,740
done.

1685
01:43:19,740 --> 01:43:23,400
He's done a lot of work for
Google. So be sure Google's in

1686
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:27,000
Yeah, but it doesn't really
matter. To me, because

1687
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:31,890
competition is good. And you
have the right to, you know, to

1688
01:43:31,950 --> 01:43:35,130
to what does it petition your
government? I'm not against

1689
01:43:35,130 --> 01:43:39,720
that. It's funny. I get accused
of people say yeah, curious

1690
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:43,830
angle. Just wait, you know, when
it comes down to it, when the

1691
01:43:43,830 --> 01:43:48,300
when the podcast trolls are shut
down podcast, those who are

1692
01:43:48,300 --> 01:43:51,210
talked favourably about that
will probably still be allowed

1693
01:43:51,210 --> 01:43:57,150
to be around. The same goes for
neutrality. They won't slow down

1694
01:43:57,150 --> 01:44:00,030
his podcast because he was
second up to him. There you go.

1695
01:44:00,300 --> 01:44:01,710
That's a logical argument. If

1696
01:44:01,710 --> 01:44:08,130
you Oh, I gotta play something
funny for you. This is funny. I

1697
01:44:08,130 --> 01:44:10,020
might as well get it all out of
my system while I'm doing it.

1698
01:44:10,650 --> 01:44:12,600
Yeah, let's don't talk about
this anymore.

1699
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:15,360
Now we're gonna talk about but I
just wanted to lay down this

1700
01:44:15,390 --> 01:44:18,090
what I think is the sequence of
events. And we're not going to

1701
01:44:18,090 --> 01:44:20,670
talk about it anymore unless
something drastic happens. And

1702
01:44:20,670 --> 01:44:25,890
I'm also not going to talk about
the podcast patent after on this

1703
01:44:25,890 --> 01:44:31,980
show. But I do have to do it one
more time. Because the missing

1704
01:44:31,980 --> 01:44:34,500
info and it only happened
because someone on Twitter like

1705
01:44:35,730 --> 01:44:40,740
irks me, where they you know,
the Curie bullcrap, man Coronas

1706
01:44:40,740 --> 01:44:44,100
producer, he's he's fighting for
you, man. He's fighting for you.

1707
01:44:45,630 --> 01:44:48,450
Yeah, just because you don't
make enough money for them to

1708
01:44:48,450 --> 01:44:50,340
come after you man. But

1709
01:44:52,170 --> 01:44:54,120
it's the angry old hippie.

1710
01:44:55,260 --> 01:44:59,820
So so someone points out the Dr.
Drew and Adam Carolla show which

1711
01:44:59,820 --> 01:45:04,440
have Horses is the Dr. Drew and
guest host show because Adam

1712
01:45:04,440 --> 01:45:06,270
Carolla you don't even
podcasting right now he's

1713
01:45:06,270 --> 01:45:09,510
promoting his book which and
he's getting hammered by the by

1714
01:45:09,510 --> 01:45:13,350
gay Inc which is another V did
an interview in salon by the

1715
01:45:13,350 --> 01:45:19,620
gayest interviewer they have and
he's now he's you know he's I

1716
01:45:19,620 --> 01:45:23,400
have to give him that curl
doesn't care if he says yeah you

1717
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:25,860
can't make gay jokes anymore in
this town I've never seen it

1718
01:45:25,860 --> 01:45:30,360
like this and now the into the
stories are well Corolla he

1719
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:34,860
hates the gays can't believe it
he's comparing us to paedophiles

1720
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:38,130
the whole thing was it's a
nightmare, the guy that is bad

1721
01:45:38,130 --> 01:45:42,570
Yeah, well, he shouldn't what he
said was dumb, but just don't

1722
01:45:42,570 --> 01:45:46,230
mean don't do interviews is my
policy. That's not a bad policy.

1723
01:45:46,290 --> 01:45:52,650
So, in front of every podcast on
the PA Adam Carolla Podcast

1724
01:45:52,650 --> 01:45:54,570
Network, there's this little
ditty

1725
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:55,740
Hi, this is Adam Carolla.

1726
01:45:55,770 --> 01:45:58,320
I want to thank you for
supporting this podcast on the

1727
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:01,560
Corolla digital network.
Everyone here at Corolla digital

1728
01:46:01,620 --> 01:46:04,560
is very proud of the shows that
we put out every week and are

1729
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:08,040
excited about the future of our
network. However a patent troll

1730
01:46:08,190 --> 01:46:11,940
is threatening that future by
suing us we need to fight back

1731
01:46:11,940 --> 01:46:15,690
and beat the troll down if we go
down all the other shows on the

1732
01:46:15,690 --> 01:46:18,750
other networks you've grown to
love are gonna go down next

1733
01:46:19,380 --> 01:46:25,500
okay. So this is just a lie and
I want to disclaim I want to

1734
01:46:25,500 --> 01:46:29,310
except for the no agenda show,
we have this is this is a lie

1735
01:46:29,340 --> 01:46:33,210
that he is asking people and it
does hurt me because they want

1736
01:46:33,210 --> 01:46:38,490
an I definitely did more for
podcasting and personal audio or

1737
01:46:38,490 --> 01:46:44,850
Adam Carolla EB to to be begging
for money with this lie that all

1738
01:46:44,850 --> 01:46:48,900
podcasting is gonna go down. I'm
sorry pisses me off, visit fund

1739
01:46:48,900 --> 01:46:52,440
anything.com forward slash
patent troll to donate and find

1740
01:46:52,440 --> 01:46:55,620
out other ways that you can help
beat the patent troll. Okay,

1741
01:46:55,650 --> 01:46:59,010
thank you, and mahalo. All
right. So the reason why I bring

1742
01:46:59,010 --> 01:47:02,460
this up is then I was it was
brought to my attention that Dr.

1743
01:47:02,460 --> 01:47:06,360
Drew, who normally does the Adam
Carolla Dr. Drew show, and the

1744
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:09,630
guy's name is Adam to and his
AC. This is all very annoying.

1745
01:47:12,300 --> 01:47:15,540
Here so Corolla is up promoting
his book, so he has the Sklar

1746
01:47:15,540 --> 01:47:20,820
brothers on who I guess are a
comedy duo who also Podcast. I'm

1747
01:47:20,820 --> 01:47:26,760
not familiar with their work.
And this is how the so what

1748
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:31,230
really happens here is there is
a patent, the so called 506

1749
01:47:31,230 --> 01:47:36,810
podcast patent that was awarded.
And, and I think it's a valid

1750
01:47:36,810 --> 01:47:42,780
patent. And I don't like it. And
there may be prior art, which

1751
01:47:42,780 --> 01:47:46,680
the EFF is correctly, they're
challenging the proper way the

1752
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:49,230
right job. Yes, they're
challenging that patent in the

1753
01:47:49,230 --> 01:47:54,030
proper way. And and I and I
support them in that I do not

1754
01:47:54,030 --> 01:47:56,430
support them. The way they
approached me was we got to fuck

1755
01:47:56,430 --> 01:48:01,500
this patent troll. I'm sorry.
Just because someone moves there

1756
01:48:02,250 --> 01:48:08,580
wants to hear a case in Texas
doesn't mean that there. This

1757
01:48:08,580 --> 01:48:11,430
happens all the time. court
cases are moved all the time all

1758
01:48:11,430 --> 01:48:14,970
come for all different reasons.
But this is not a company. This

1759
01:48:14,970 --> 01:48:21,630
is the guy who was awarded the
patent is seeking redress for

1760
01:48:21,630 --> 01:48:27,630
this and it has not sold it.
Okay, so it is not it is not

1761
01:48:27,660 --> 01:48:31,710
like Nathan Myhrvold who buys up
patents just to go sue people is

1762
01:48:31,710 --> 01:48:36,000
not the same thing. Now he's the
guy who was awarded the patent

1763
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:40,290
that is very important. What
happened with this and what is

1764
01:48:40,290 --> 01:48:44,010
going to be said and just have
to stop the insanity because

1765
01:48:44,010 --> 01:48:48,030
this propagation is an incorrect
message. And I don't care what

1766
01:48:48,030 --> 01:48:50,910
happens because we haven't
received any demand letter. I

1767
01:48:50,910 --> 01:48:53,940
also haven't seen any demand
letter. I don't know what would

1768
01:48:53,940 --> 01:48:56,520
Adam Carolla got, I don't know
if he they really said give me

1769
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:59,490
$3 million. I don't know what
they said. I don't know why his

1770
01:48:59,490 --> 01:49:02,310
lawyers cost a million dollars.
I don't know any of this. But

1771
01:49:02,310 --> 01:49:05,460
people are handing over money to
him fine. If you want to do that

1772
01:49:05,460 --> 01:49:09,180
fine. My job is to give you some
information. But this when you

1773
01:49:09,180 --> 01:49:12,210
hear how this is propagated it
makes me mad continue to do this

1774
01:49:12,210 --> 01:49:13,110
entertainment for a long

1775
01:49:13,110 --> 01:49:15,150
Yeah. Which is nice. And it's
the only way you can do it is

1776
01:49:15,150 --> 01:49:20,940
I've got three kids. My Oh yeah.
Carl has to buy more cars. Yeah,

1777
01:49:20,970 --> 01:49:26,250
yeah. Like his children. But
anyway, he deserves what he

1778
01:49:26,250 --> 01:49:29,130
gets. And he course has made a
giant industry out

1779
01:49:29,130 --> 01:49:31,800
of this. Yes, he's made a giant
industry out of this. Oh, this

1780
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:35,280
is called the pod father. I'll
say I'm a little irked by that.

1781
01:49:35,519 --> 01:49:37,679
I'm waiting a little irked by

1782
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:41,640
that yeah, the giant Thank you.
Thank you, Adam Carolla for

1783
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:44,400
making this giant industry. I'm
happy I will give him that.

1784
01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:46,500
Thank you very much. I
appreciate the work you've done.

1785
01:49:46,500 --> 01:49:46,650
And

1786
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:51,330
we also have to we have to
support him fighting the

1787
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:54,090
patent trolls we have to this is
something we are so passionate

1788
01:49:54,090 --> 01:49:58,620
about. I mean if you if you this
is a simple battle, and I want

1789
01:49:58,620 --> 01:50:00,750
to break it down to it's good
versus evil.

1790
01:50:01,410 --> 01:50:06,480
Okay, kids. Just listen very
closely. He's gonna break it

1791
01:50:06,480 --> 01:50:09,780
down for you, which is something
Alex Jones says but let me break

1792
01:50:09,780 --> 01:50:12,840
this down for you. It's really
simple. No, it's not. It's not

1793
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:15,330
that simple, but Okay, it's good
versus evil.

1794
01:50:15,390 --> 01:50:17,730
I mean, it's the people who
create things versus the people

1795
01:50:17,730 --> 01:50:20,100
who are trying to tear that shit
down to you. Do you like

1796
01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:23,730
bullies? Do you support bullying
in grade school? This is adult

1797
01:50:23,730 --> 01:50:24,180
bullying.

1798
01:50:24,420 --> 01:50:28,890
Okay, so now patent laws become
adult bullies to some adult

1799
01:50:28,890 --> 01:50:32,190
bullying bullshit where they
literally are trying this there

1800
01:50:32,190 --> 01:50:35,490
are people in offices and
fucking office parks in Texas or

1801
01:50:35,490 --> 01:50:38,280
wherever they don't even show up
the office they they buy these

1802
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:40,860
excuse the address, they use the
address they buy these patents

1803
01:50:40,860 --> 01:50:44,520
these general patents okay, they
did not buy a patent. This is

1804
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:47,190
the guy who was awarded the Pat
there is a difference.

1805
01:50:47,220 --> 01:50:50,520
I own the patent on someone
saying words into a microphone

1806
01:50:50,550 --> 01:50:51,150
now. Now the

1807
01:50:51,150 --> 01:50:55,980
patent that he has, I've read
the 506 patent is very specific

1808
01:50:56,250 --> 01:51:02,340
about a media file that lists
episodes the file is known the

1809
01:51:02,340 --> 01:51:06,090
file is retrieved it says here's
a new episode essentially

1810
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:12,540
exactly explains what has what
was invented with and really

1811
01:51:12,540 --> 01:51:15,960
technology isn't gonna invent it
evolves it evolves and then the

1812
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:18,720
guy patented it and he got
awarded the patent okay there

1813
01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:22,020
may be prior art there's a way
to handle that but he this is

1814
01:51:22,050 --> 01:51:23,460
what they're saying is a lie. So

1815
01:51:23,460 --> 01:51:26,850
now I can I can charge podcast
middle aged

1816
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:31,020
back in charge podcast what does
that mean? It's just making this

1817
01:51:31,020 --> 01:51:31,230
up

1818
01:51:31,230 --> 01:51:33,390
shame on the government for
allowing that to happen while

1819
01:51:33,390 --> 01:51:35,160
they're starting to do so shame
on the

1820
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:37,830
government I get a lot of this
to the Corolla is fighting the

1821
01:51:37,830 --> 01:51:41,550
government man big government.
No, we're not fighting big

1822
01:51:41,550 --> 01:51:42,390
government little

1823
01:51:42,390 --> 01:51:45,990
bit. But we need we need as
grassroots people to stand up

1824
01:51:45,990 --> 01:51:49,260
and say no, we need to be so
vocal, we need to be as vocal as

1825
01:51:49,260 --> 01:51:49,920
the NRA.

1826
01:51:49,950 --> 01:51:54,360
Okay, that's really helpful.
You're doing us all a service

1827
01:51:54,389 --> 01:51:57,959
to remind ourselves what they
would do they avoid iTunes and

1828
01:51:57,959 --> 01:52:02,429
Amazon, who have they are using
this quote, patent.

1829
01:52:02,459 --> 01:52:07,289
Okay, now, let me just say
something Dr. Drew, you should

1830
01:52:07,319 --> 01:52:12,869
stop, you should be fixing the
Hollywood druggies, Apple

1831
01:52:12,989 --> 01:52:18,599
computers. But Apple was sued by
personal audio. And all of this

1832
01:52:18,599 --> 01:52:23,309
is in the show notes. And they
paid $8 million for two things

1833
01:52:23,489 --> 01:52:30,479
for a patent regarding playlists
on mp3 players. And this payment

1834
01:52:30,779 --> 01:52:35,339
was for use of this patent and
any other patents in the future,

1835
01:52:36,509 --> 01:52:41,309
which includes the 506 podcast
patent. This is what no one is

1836
01:52:41,309 --> 01:52:47,309
telling you. Apple paid already.
So it's not like Apple's not

1837
01:52:47,309 --> 01:52:51,539
getting sued. Apple got sued.
They paid $8 million flat fee

1838
01:52:51,539 --> 01:52:55,949
one time they can use the
technology forever now. And

1839
01:52:55,949 --> 01:52:59,039
personal audio actually tried to
go back and say hey, man, that's

1840
01:52:59,069 --> 01:53:02,039
messed up. We and they actually
they their lawyers did a bad

1841
01:53:02,039 --> 01:53:05,129
job. And they messed it up for
them. So they only got 8 million

1842
01:53:05,129 --> 01:53:10,019
and Apple can use any version of
that initial patent

1843
01:53:10,050 --> 01:53:13,500
in the future to have a big red
light blinking or anything.

1844
01:53:16,350 --> 01:53:16,830
Yeah,

1845
01:53:16,980 --> 01:53:22,350
I got a big red. So you well,
anyway. That was great. Yeah,

1846
01:53:22,350 --> 01:53:26,730
we're recording now. Ah, that
was great, wasn't it? Okay, so

1847
01:53:26,730 --> 01:53:30,150
you missed it. You missed it.
All right. What did we miss?

1848
01:53:30,630 --> 01:53:32,760
I'll tell you what you missed
because I remember when this

1849
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:35,670
thing went off. I didn't think
much about it at the time. We

1850
01:53:35,670 --> 01:53:41,640
missed missed a final. Adam
Carolla analysis ended with some

1851
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:45,660
additional material that you
added and could you know, we got

1852
01:53:45,660 --> 01:53:49,320
lost and then you missed a
little exposition on the drug

1853
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:52,440
situation with this drug. But it
was good.

1854
01:53:52,530 --> 01:53:56,430
It was good. We'll do the drug
thing on Sunday. Because we get

1855
01:53:56,430 --> 01:53:58,830
we can just we can just do the
whole drug thing over again.

1856
01:53:59,430 --> 01:54:02,100
Yeah, that's easy. And then we
take that straight into the NFL

1857
01:54:02,100 --> 01:54:06,690
Draft. Now we can leave we can
drop that I'm really sorry let

1858
01:54:06,690 --> 01:54:11,670
me tell you what happened. So
there was some glitch and you

1859
01:54:11,670 --> 01:54:15,540
remember when I couldn't play
the rest of the clip? Right and

1860
01:54:15,570 --> 01:54:19,260
that glitch also killed the
stream and the recording and I

1861
01:54:19,290 --> 01:54:25,200
and honestly it being 2:30am I
just spaced My bad?

1862
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:31,860
Don't Don't ever say My bad. Why
not? That is the worst. I hate

1863
01:54:31,860 --> 01:54:32,070
that.

1864
01:54:32,070 --> 01:54:35,370
Basically. They my bad is that
worse than that? Then gazillion.

1865
01:54:36,210 --> 01:54:38,640
I don't say gazillion. I'm just
asking. Is it worse than

1866
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:39,900
gazillion? Yeah. Oh,

1867
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:42,060
yes. is much worse than
kazillion.

1868
01:54:43,830 --> 01:54:46,350
Okay, it was my fault.

1869
01:54:46,950 --> 01:54:48,030
Yes, there you go.

1870
01:54:48,150 --> 01:54:51,900
I'm sorry. I feel I feel quite
bad about that.

1871
01:54:53,460 --> 01:54:58,560
Of course you do. Is a flawless
podcast people and then wishes

1872
01:54:58,590 --> 01:55:01,230
which means likely we're gonna
Get to the donation segment

1873
01:55:01,230 --> 01:55:08,400
next, and then I have a story
Imagine all the people who could

1874
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:10,140
do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun

1875
01:55:18,180 --> 01:55:21,840
we do have a few people to
think. And again, we have to

1876
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:26,340
wonder if these are old or new.
But I guess this is probably all

1877
01:55:26,340 --> 01:55:30,060
new stuff. Urbandale studios in
Freiburg, Germany, which I

1878
01:55:30,060 --> 01:55:34,410
mentioned I've been to before
you send a note an email from

1879
01:55:34,410 --> 01:55:37,800
short works I don't have but
it's okay as $100.33 We'll get

1880
01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:42,570
to get to some of these notes
later. Vladimir stache cough in

1881
01:55:43,710 --> 01:55:47,040
some place in Russia 9999

1882
01:55:47,550 --> 01:55:51,090
Ah I should do a nine or nine or
nine or nine or for him yes I

1883
01:55:51,090 --> 01:55:57,180
should I'm just catching up
here. Okay, here we go.

1884
01:55:59,730 --> 01:56:06,030
There we go. He says I want to
remind freeloading boners out

1885
01:56:06,030 --> 01:56:09,120
there to donate to the show is
it scientifically proven fact

1886
01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:12,300
that you are not truly immune to
the mainstream propaganda till

1887
01:56:12,300 --> 01:56:17,100
you become a donor?
Unnecessarily listener? talked

1888
01:56:17,100 --> 01:56:22,050
about before and it's a
different take on that idea. I

1889
01:56:22,050 --> 01:56:24,210
have to click back and forth so
you're going to do you know

1890
01:56:24,210 --> 01:56:24,600
another

1891
01:56:24,990 --> 01:56:31,800
guy just say something? Yeah.
This almost looks like 618

1892
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:32,520
spreadsheet.

1893
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:34,770
I know it does. It looks like
it.

1894
01:56:35,850 --> 01:56:41,430
In fact, this is I'm telling
you, this is the 618

1895
01:56:41,430 --> 01:56:42,090
spreadsheet.

1896
01:56:43,470 --> 01:56:45,330
Well, that's what I suggested
earlier.

1897
01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:47,820
Well, part part of what you said

1898
01:56:47,820 --> 01:56:51,240
I don't remember iodine in beer.
I do actually

1899
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:58,260
have a look at 618 I remember
iodine and boner pills. Just I

1900
01:56:58,260 --> 01:57:02,280
happened to have 618 here and
well no. Now this seems Pauline

1901
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:07,410
Spencer's pulling Spencer on
this No, no, you know what, I

1902
01:57:07,410 --> 01:57:10,860
don't know. Let's just do it.
And if people get double than

1903
01:57:11,130 --> 01:57:11,730
bully for

1904
01:57:11,730 --> 01:57:17,010
them. Yeah. Paulina Willis Go on
then. Or when Owens Jr. and

1905
01:57:17,010 --> 01:57:21,930
Alameda I remember him from he's
got to be on the six to 18 now

1906
01:57:21,930 --> 01:57:26,400
Paulina Spencer I don't remember
in London. 9999 Another 99 Or

1907
01:57:26,490 --> 01:57:28,050
you should go nine or nine or
nine

1908
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:30,150
nine or nine or nine or nine or?

1909
01:57:30,420 --> 01:57:35,490
And this is a donation to mark
lusion Berg's birthday on the

1910
01:57:35,490 --> 01:57:38,910
27th Listen, bear, Lucien bear.

1911
01:57:41,940 --> 01:57:47,580
Listen, bear, lift and birth.
Sorry, lift number a Dutchman

1912
01:57:47,580 --> 01:57:48,900
living in London Luxembourg

1913
01:57:48,929 --> 01:57:52,559
yet who makes everyone listen to
the show. Oh goodness me and it

1914
01:57:52,559 --> 01:57:56,249
drives me mad. I'm a douche bag
in need of karma. Additionally,

1915
01:57:56,249 --> 01:58:03,179
please congratulate Nicole stau
our phantom dough agenda is

1916
01:58:03,179 --> 01:58:04,139
expecting me anyway.

1917
01:58:05,070 --> 01:58:09,600
hours to Howard and you ruin our
Adler in Singapore.

1918
01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:14,910
Okay, we'll put some karma at
the end for you guys. Yeah,

1919
01:58:15,390 --> 01:58:17,880
Richie. I gotta fix I gotta do
some. So I can read this

1920
01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:22,530
spreadsheet on a small machine.
Andrew Otto and wha ha Wei Han,

1921
01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:33,690
Nebraska 60. Jeff Lundberg in
Northville, Michigan. That is He

1922
01:58:33,690 --> 01:58:38,220
sent a note and I thought I'd
put that on there. Not that I'm

1923
01:58:38,220 --> 01:58:41,730
going to read it because it's
got some funny stuff. He was one

1924
01:58:41,730 --> 01:58:46,260
of the guys at the meetup. Jeff,
my wife and I've been living the

1925
01:58:46,260 --> 01:58:48,540
mac and cheese lifewatch trying
to get out of debt. Regardless,

1926
01:58:48,540 --> 01:58:50,970
the show has been fantastic
lately. So I'd like to start

1927
01:58:50,970 --> 01:58:53,730
holding up my end value for
value proposition with a double

1928
01:58:53,730 --> 01:58:56,160
nickels on the dime donation
mostly because I want to hear

1929
01:58:56,160 --> 01:59:00,270
John say double nickels on the
dime. Hey, and he wants a D

1930
01:59:00,270 --> 01:59:03,600
douching. And a karma for all
the other producers out there.

1931
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:05,580
And he's got a birthday coming
up on the fourth, which is new

1932
01:59:05,580 --> 01:59:09,090
laters. You've been D deuced.

1933
01:59:11,310 --> 01:59:13,590
You've got karma might as well
do it.

1934
01:59:14,490 --> 01:59:18,510
I believe that Jeff is a newer
listener and I think a lot of

1935
01:59:18,510 --> 01:59:21,780
people don't really remember the
etymology of double nickels on

1936
01:59:21,780 --> 01:59:22,380
the dime.

1937
01:59:22,470 --> 01:59:25,590
Ah, do you? Yeah.

1938
01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:32,790
One of our listeners about five
years ago, said in 5510 and are

1939
01:59:32,790 --> 01:59:36,090
one of our producers and said
This is double nickels on the

1940
01:59:36,090 --> 01:59:38,640
dime and it was like relating to
some meme that we

1941
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:41,160
had a middleman that the
Minutemen know a gentleman and

1942
01:59:41,160 --> 01:59:42,450
man. Yeah.

1943
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:45,300
So he had the double nickels on
the diamond and all of a sudden

1944
01:59:45,300 --> 01:59:48,960
became very popular. And people
kept donating that amount and

1945
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:51,600
then it's just kind of died by
the vet died on the vine.

1946
01:59:53,190 --> 01:59:55,590
It's always been it hasn't
really died on the vine. It's

1947
01:59:55,590 --> 01:59:57,960
always been around. It's been
there.

1948
01:59:58,410 --> 02:00:11,130
William White in 5432 In Ho Nia
path south carolina I'm sorry

1949
02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:14,850
Thomas Riley in Wheaton,
Illinois. 5533 Cameron Smith

1950
02:00:14,850 --> 02:00:20,040
5151 In New Zealand, James
Thompson and Sherry, Vale,

1951
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:27,300
Kansas 5150. Brett yo in
Baltimore, Maryland 5028 He can

1952
02:00:27,300 --> 02:00:33,630
a Galois in San Francisco, which
I remember from recently, Eric

1953
02:00:33,630 --> 02:00:39,210
Johnson in some place in Sweden.
I don't I can't get the name as

1954
02:00:39,210 --> 02:00:40,980
a bunch of characters on here.
Let me

1955
02:00:40,980 --> 02:00:43,800
see if I can do it. For you
review.

1956
02:00:45,930 --> 02:00:48,960
These are all $50 donors, which
includes Chris Slowinski who

1957
02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:54,030
comes in all the time from
Alberta, Timothy Kiernan from

1958
02:00:54,030 --> 02:00:59,010
Bellevue, Michigan. Today I
think Timothy centres will note.

1959
02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:02,910
Well, I gotta tell you, John,
I'm slowly on my way to a

1960
02:01:02,910 --> 02:01:06,180
knighthood so I can become sir
Timothy of Michigan. Will you

1961
02:01:06,180 --> 02:01:08,610
have time to meet up with no
agenda listeners in Michigan

1962
02:01:08,610 --> 02:01:12,750
answer? Yes. The following link
describes him our best

1963
02:01:12,750 --> 02:01:16,170
restaurant. me hooked you up.
You must you must have met him.

1964
02:01:16,380 --> 02:01:19,110
Surely you met them while they
were away were there could have

1965
02:01:19,110 --> 02:01:25,170
been? Taylor Bentley and Tacoma
Washington Brandon sev. Why in

1966
02:01:25,170 --> 02:01:28,680
Parts Unknown. Mike Westerfield
comes in often, Patricia

1967
02:01:28,680 --> 02:01:32,670
Worthington in Miami, Florida,
Walter grant the fourth in

1968
02:01:32,670 --> 02:01:37,890
Moreno Valley, California. And
finally, Brian Guilbeau. Got to

1969
02:01:37,890 --> 02:01:40,740
note from him he says he wish he
could give more but for a number

1970
02:01:40,740 --> 02:01:45,660
of reasons. I'm just living the
American dream. rock show after

1971
02:01:45,660 --> 02:01:51,660
show, I want to mention that our
duo a Scott and Alicia and his

1972
02:01:51,660 --> 02:01:56,400
wife, you know, Scott had the
story that $333 executive

1973
02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:59,550
producer that I have to relate
to if you don't want to feel

1974
02:01:59,550 --> 02:02:03,420
bad, okay, so Scott apparently
was a he works at one of the

1975
02:02:03,450 --> 02:02:06,780
delicatessens in Ann Arbour
famous place called Zingerman's.

1976
02:02:07,080 --> 02:02:12,930
But he had a job that he picked
up in Mid Michigan someplace.

1977
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:18,960
And it was a cult of bookstore,
you know, the not at all cult,

1978
02:02:19,290 --> 02:02:21,570
and oh, cult bookstore, you
know, see Samuel

1979
02:02:22,740 --> 02:02:25,470
black covers with pentagrams.
Yeah,

1980
02:02:25,500 --> 02:02:28,530
that kind of a place. And the
guy said to him, he says, You

1981
02:02:28,530 --> 02:02:35,040
know, I think we should you
know, there's no good. And does

1982
02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:38,190
anybody know anything about
podcasting? And Scott chimed in

1983
02:02:38,190 --> 02:02:40,830
saying, Yeah, I know about
podcasting. I think the most

1984
02:02:40,830 --> 02:02:43,110
important thing about podcasts
that people have to realise is

1985
02:02:43,110 --> 02:02:46,710
the quality of the podcast, the
quality of the sound is very

1986
02:02:46,710 --> 02:02:50,370
important. And, and the guy says
to her, what do you know about

1987
02:02:50,370 --> 02:02:54,120
it? He says, Well, I listened to
the no agenda. I listened to the

1988
02:02:57,090 --> 02:03:01,860
cello. And the guy says the
owner, they were one of the

1989
02:03:01,860 --> 02:03:06,060
owners, I guess says to him. You
mean, the guy with the

1990
02:03:06,060 --> 02:03:13,980
earthquake machine? Yeah, and,
and then Scott was fired two

1991
02:03:13,980 --> 02:03:18,150
days later. No, you're kidding
me? No. That's the story from

1992
02:03:18,150 --> 02:03:22,440
the occult bookstore because of
the earthquake machine. That's

1993
02:03:22,440 --> 02:03:30,030
what his claim is. Wow. Damn.
Yeah, that's harsh. That's what

1994
02:03:30,030 --> 02:03:34,140
I thought. That's harsh. Yeah,
that was just one of those

1995
02:03:34,140 --> 02:03:38,130
stories. Oh, that's horrible. I
thought you wanted to feel bad.

1996
02:03:38,130 --> 02:03:39,750
I thought I liven it up for you.

1997
02:03:40,170 --> 02:03:43,320
You know, I've, how funny is it
that we sat here and we're

1998
02:03:43,320 --> 02:03:45,750
talking to each other about
something for 20 minutes, and no

1999
02:03:45,750 --> 02:03:47,280
one will ever hear it? I

2000
02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:54,990
think that happens once in a
while. A conversation with my

2001
02:03:54,990 --> 02:03:55,350
wife.

2002
02:03:56,670 --> 02:04:00,150
What did you say? What? Were you
talking to me?

2003
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:05,940
Wow. You just you're just
obsessing on this.

2004
02:04:05,970 --> 02:04:09,420
Yeah, of course, I'm obsessive.
i It's, it's the one of the

2005
02:04:09,420 --> 02:04:12,930
worst things that can ever
happen. Well, I'm obsessing on

2006
02:04:12,930 --> 02:04:18,810
it because I sat here and I
looked at the blank slate with

2007
02:04:18,810 --> 02:04:22,110
no recordings going and then at
a certain point, I'm like, Hey,

2008
02:04:22,110 --> 02:04:30,300
wait a minute. I should be
recording. Right now. Alright.

2009
02:04:30,300 --> 02:04:34,800
Alright. Alright. Okay. We will
make up for it on Sunday. And I

2010
02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:38,130
want to thank everybody who
sponsored us with your donations

2011
02:04:38,130 --> 02:04:42,720
today. Especially everyone who
comes in under the $50 level

2012
02:04:42,750 --> 02:04:46,800
where a lot of it is for
anonymous. Anonymity reasons. A

2013
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:50,070
lot of people coming in at 49 or
just under the $50 mark a lot of

2014
02:04:50,070 --> 02:04:53,490
monthly donors, please go to
Divorce Act, that org slash na

2015
02:04:53,490 --> 02:04:57,690
and look at all of the different
options. I think we are I think

2016
02:04:57,690 --> 02:05:02,700
we're we're really bringing the
value and look at what you're

2017
02:05:02,700 --> 02:05:03,690
spending your money on

2018
02:05:08,040 --> 02:05:12,750
No, I think we when people spend
money on parking tickets, they

2019
02:05:12,750 --> 02:05:16,050
give more to the city for making
a mistake than they do to us.

2020
02:05:16,080 --> 02:05:19,530
Yeah. And they were they send
their money to Corolla which you

2021
02:05:19,530 --> 02:05:21,480
were talking about but nobody
will remember that because we

2022
02:05:21,480 --> 02:05:23,670
didn't really talk about it now
that's good.

2023
02:05:23,790 --> 02:05:27,840
But this see this see this as as
healthcare than it truly is. We

2024
02:05:27,840 --> 02:05:31,080
are we are we are making you
healthier. You know, DeMasters

2025
02:05:32,160 --> 02:05:35,700
by the way, that kind of message
I got at the at the meetup I had

2026
02:05:35,700 --> 02:05:38,760
you know, this one guy he had
his kid there with at the meetup

2027
02:05:38,760 --> 02:05:42,600
and he was the kid was the
cutest kid ever. And you know,

2028
02:05:42,600 --> 02:05:45,060
and he had and he's already
trying to drug the kid he says

2029
02:05:45,060 --> 02:05:46,950
he's not going to do that. And
he wants to he says he wouldn't

2030
02:05:46,950 --> 02:05:48,750
have even thought of
homeschooling, which his wife

2031
02:05:48,750 --> 02:05:52,230
wanted to do. And so he listens
to our show. And he doesn't feel

2032
02:05:52,230 --> 02:05:56,280
uncomfortable about the idea.
And there's a lot of the you

2033
02:05:56,280 --> 02:06:01,320
know, this concept that I feel
better about things because I at

2034
02:06:01,320 --> 02:06:05,430
least listen to two guys who are
saying and these two guys by the

2035
02:06:05,430 --> 02:06:08,790
way, neither one of us are
taking anything that would alter

2036
02:06:08,790 --> 02:06:12,390
our consciousness or make us
nuts well not by force.

2037
02:06:14,730 --> 02:06:15,750
Government eating

2038
02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:18,510
government eating more for I
don't pick it up at the

2039
02:06:18,510 --> 02:06:19,320
pharmacy.

2040
02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:23,910
So you know, you have a cognac
and you're fine.

2041
02:06:23,970 --> 02:06:28,140
No, no, in fact, I have I don't
have a cognac I have I picked up

2042
02:06:28,140 --> 02:06:32,730
another centaury whiskey and
someone's been drinking this

2043
02:06:32,730 --> 02:06:36,780
because it's almost empty. know
who that is? Yeah, it's the

2044
02:06:36,780 --> 02:06:40,350
Tories. It's very funny. It's
really this is probably a shitty

2045
02:06:40,350 --> 02:06:44,760
one. But wow, there's some Tory
whiskey is really good is some

2046
02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:47,700
Tories? I guess that the water
they use is that is that the

2047
02:06:48,150 --> 02:06:48,690
Toledo

2048
02:06:48,690 --> 02:06:53,820
land? Nine Oh, no, what they do?
Enjoy. They used to know more

2049
02:06:53,820 --> 02:06:56,400
about Suntory whisky than I do
currently. Really,

2050
02:06:56,400 --> 02:06:58,380
it's really smooth. I like it a
lot.

2051
02:06:58,410 --> 02:07:01,170
It really tastes blended whiskey
is designed to be very smooth.

2052
02:07:01,980 --> 02:07:04,830
Alright, and also, of course, we
want to thank our executive

2053
02:07:04,830 --> 02:07:07,860
producers and Associate
Executive Producers you really

2054
02:07:07,860 --> 02:07:10,620
came through for us, as some of
you even got credited a second

2055
02:07:10,620 --> 02:07:12,510
time while you weren't supposed
to. I don't know. It doesn't

2056
02:07:12,510 --> 02:07:15,420
really didn't things happen.
We're a very small outfit. We're

2057
02:07:15,420 --> 02:07:18,960
very small outfit. We're we're
operating on a budget here.

2058
02:07:19,560 --> 02:07:22,380
wouldn't be bad to have a little
bit more budget, please go to

2059
02:07:22,410 --> 02:07:25,710
all right.org/in A

2060
02:07:32,340 --> 02:07:34,710
Well, it's real easy for today.
Paulina. Spencer says Happy

2061
02:07:34,710 --> 02:07:38,940
Birthday to add Ben Lichtenberg
who celebrates on the 27th. And

2062
02:07:38,940 --> 02:07:41,160
that's it. Happy birthday from
all your friends here, the best

2063
02:07:41,160 --> 02:07:46,620
podcast in the universe. Answer
Nate Wilson, thanks to his

2064
02:07:47,970 --> 02:07:51,600
donation today becomes a
Baronet. And he'll become barren

2065
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:53,970
and Wilson of the low country.
And of course, he can't really

2066
02:07:54,150 --> 02:07:58,380
claim a protector until he is
barren. But I guess he's, he's

2067
02:07:58,380 --> 02:08:01,830
looking forward to. I guess he's
just getting ready for

2068
02:08:01,830 --> 02:08:05,400
everything. And no other
meetings or anything today,

2069
02:08:05,940 --> 02:08:06,930
unfortunately.

2070
02:08:08,310 --> 02:08:11,850
Well, hopefully on Sunday,
Somerville. We haven't had an

2071
02:08:11,850 --> 02:08:13,800
instant night for a while.
That's what we're looking for

2072
02:08:13,800 --> 02:08:13,980
things

2073
02:08:13,980 --> 02:08:21,270
tonight. Yeah. Of course, the
big news, which I've been

2074
02:08:21,270 --> 02:08:24,210
following for years now. And it
finally happened to you. It was

2075
02:08:24,210 --> 02:08:30,480
very interesting to see. So many
of the news outlets going, Oh,

2076
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:37,620
well, they didn't sign the gas
deal. And then, at the very end

2077
02:08:37,620 --> 02:08:43,680
there. We had the Chinese and
the Russians, under the watchful

2078
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:51,120
eye sign their $400 billion deal
for the pipeline from Siberia up

2079
02:08:51,120 --> 02:08:54,810
to China, which is a very small,
it's it's much smaller than it

2080
02:08:54,810 --> 02:09:00,180
sounds. I'd be no way will it
make up for anything they lose

2081
02:09:00,180 --> 02:09:04,680
in in sales to Europe, the and
it's also nothing near what

2082
02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:06,840
China really needs. But it's
significant. They've been trying

2083
02:09:06,840 --> 02:09:12,240
to get this deal together for 10
years. And I think the whole

2084
02:09:12,240 --> 02:09:17,250
Putin going over there. It was
really a show. The audience was

2085
02:09:17,250 --> 02:09:20,940
the United States government. I
think you would agree with me on

2086
02:09:20,940 --> 02:09:25,800
that, John? Yeah, obviously.
Yeah. It's like, Hey, look at

2087
02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:28,770
what we're doing. And that's
really what that was about.

2088
02:09:29,010 --> 02:09:35,310
What's it but something very odd
happened. And I haven't I have a

2089
02:09:35,310 --> 02:09:40,110
short clip. This is holder. So
now here's what we have. We have

2090
02:09:40,620 --> 02:09:45,000
Putin going over to China to do
this deal. And to the end. And

2091
02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:47,100
by the way, there's also some
security conference, a whole

2092
02:09:47,100 --> 02:09:50,730
bunch of stuff going on over
there. Were floundering away

2093
02:09:50,730 --> 02:09:54,960
with Nudelman. And all the Neo
cons in Ukraine, trying to set

2094
02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:59,760
up this this Bogut of election
which will take place on what

2095
02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:02,610
the 20 The fifth so that's what
does that Sunday?

2096
02:10:04,259 --> 02:10:07,169
I guess. Yeah, looks like it was
Saturday.

2097
02:10:07,889 --> 02:10:12,569
And then, you know, the kind of
the, you know, if we look at the

2098
02:10:12,569 --> 02:10:17,159
pivot to Asia, if you look at
the bricks and you know, my

2099
02:10:17,159 --> 02:10:20,909
thesis, of course the, you know,
slowly but surely there's an

2100
02:10:21,089 --> 02:10:28,199
there's a there's a movement
underway to rid the world of the

2101
02:10:28,199 --> 02:10:32,489
petro dollar and this Russia
China deal. Although it seems

2102
02:10:32,489 --> 02:10:35,729
like the pricing is still done
in dollars, it's going to be in

2103
02:10:35,729 --> 02:10:39,569
local currency. So whether
there's remedy B or whether it's

2104
02:10:39,869 --> 02:10:44,249
rubles or, oh, god forbid, SDRs
there's not going to be in

2105
02:10:44,249 --> 02:10:47,489
dollars. So this is you know,
it's just a little little chink

2106
02:10:47,489 --> 02:10:53,279
a little chunk a little a little
bit. And then holder are the

2107
02:10:53,279 --> 02:10:56,879
United States, the highest man
and all of justice above even

2108
02:10:56,879 --> 02:10:58,949
the Comey do show you heard I
mean, he's the guy everyone

2109
02:10:58,949 --> 02:11:01,949
reports to. He comes out and
does this.

2110
02:11:01,980 --> 02:11:04,590
We are here this morning to
discuss a matter that proves

2111
02:11:04,620 --> 02:11:08,580
this threat warned about by the
president is all too real.

2112
02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:12,120
Today, we are announcing an
indictment against five officers

2113
02:11:12,120 --> 02:11:15,390
of the Chinese People's
Liberation Army for serious

2114
02:11:15,420 --> 02:11:19,440
cybersecurity breaches against
six American victim companies.

2115
02:11:20,700 --> 02:11:24,840
Victim companies by the way,
please note the victim companies

2116
02:11:24,840 --> 02:11:25,410
represent

2117
02:11:25,650 --> 02:11:28,350
the first ever charges against
known state actors for

2118
02:11:28,350 --> 02:11:31,830
infiltrating United States
commercial targets by cyber

2119
02:11:31,830 --> 02:11:35,400
means. A federal grand jury in
Pittsburgh has found that these

2120
02:11:35,430 --> 02:11:39,600
five Chinese military officers
conspired together and with

2121
02:11:39,600 --> 02:11:42,840
others, to hack into the
computers of organisations in

2122
02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:46,350
the western Pennsylvania and
elsewhere in the United States.

2123
02:11:46,980 --> 02:11:51,360
The victim entities include
Westinghouse Electric, Alcoa,

2124
02:11:51,780 --> 02:11:54,990
Allegheny Technologies
Incorporated, United States

2125
02:11:55,020 --> 02:11:59,760
Steel, the United Steelworkers
union, and Solar World. And this

2126
02:11:59,760 --> 02:12:03,420
was very interesting to me.
First of all, I don't know how

2127
02:12:03,420 --> 02:12:07,410
much intellectual property the
Chinese need to steal from Solar

2128
02:12:07,410 --> 02:12:11,580
World. Don't the Chinese have
cheaper solar panels and better

2129
02:12:11,580 --> 02:12:12,720
technology than we do?

2130
02:12:14,700 --> 02:12:17,730
Yeah, they're the ones that took
over the market. Right? And then

2131
02:12:17,760 --> 02:12:22,020
steel, really, though, the
Chinese kind of own the steel

2132
02:12:22,020 --> 02:12:22,500
market.

2133
02:12:25,080 --> 02:12:25,950
Me with

2134
02:12:26,010 --> 02:12:30,900
right, so apparently, it was
some kind of deal for someone

2135
02:12:30,900 --> 02:12:33,480
and this is the you'll hear in a
second from holder that they

2136
02:12:33,480 --> 02:12:35,880
they they sold, I guess they
sold the PowerPoint or

2137
02:12:35,880 --> 02:12:38,460
something. They went and stole
their pitch deck.

2138
02:12:38,910 --> 02:12:42,300
This is a case alleging economic
espionage by members of the

2139
02:12:42,300 --> 02:12:46,170
Chinese military. The range of
trade secrets and other

2140
02:12:46,170 --> 02:12:48,990
sensitive business information
stolen in this case is

2141
02:12:49,020 --> 02:12:52,920
significant. And demands and
aggressive response. Yeah, we

2142
02:12:52,920 --> 02:12:56,580
should bomb them. The indictment
alleges that these PLA officers

2143
02:12:56,580 --> 02:13:00,480
maintained unauthorised access
to victim computers to steal

2144
02:13:00,480 --> 02:13:03,840
information from these entities
that would be useful to their

2145
02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:08,580
competitors in China, including
state owned enterprises. In some

2146
02:13:08,580 --> 02:13:11,340
cases, they stole trade secrets
that would have been

2147
02:13:11,340 --> 02:13:14,640
particularly beneficial to
Chinese companies at the time

2148
02:13:14,670 --> 02:13:15,780
that they were stolen.

2149
02:13:16,320 --> 02:13:20,640
Okay, it's it to me sounds like
a pitch. The It's sounds as if

2150
02:13:20,640 --> 02:13:24,060
anything, it sounds like a
pricing issue. Like the Chinese

2151
02:13:24,060 --> 02:13:28,110
somehow this these five Chinese
and it's very fun. Did you hear

2152
02:13:28,110 --> 02:13:30,690
their names who he indicted?
This is funny.

2153
02:13:31,680 --> 02:13:37,560
Yeah, I know. It's almost like
that. Something wrong? Yeah.

2154
02:13:39,150 --> 02:13:45,630
That's exactly what it was. It
was Wong Dong. I was afraid the

2155
02:13:45,630 --> 02:13:46,650
rest of hold on we can talk

2156
02:13:46,650 --> 02:13:49,290
about and others based on
sensitive internal

2157
02:13:49,290 --> 02:13:52,020
communications that would
provide a competitor or an

2158
02:13:52,020 --> 02:13:56,010
adversary in litigation with
insight into the strategy and

2159
02:13:56,010 --> 02:14:00,000
the vulnerabilities of the
American entity. In some, the

2160
02:14:00,000 --> 02:14:03,000
alleged hacking appears to have
been conducted for for no other

2161
02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:06,300
reason than to advantage state
owned companies and other

2162
02:14:06,300 --> 02:14:09,810
interests in China at the
expense of businesses here in

2163
02:14:09,810 --> 02:14:13,170
the United States. This is a
tactic that the United States

2164
02:14:13,170 --> 02:14:16,230
Government categorically
denounce this. Yeah, of course,

2165
02:14:16,230 --> 02:14:19,680
we never do this, as President
Obama has said on numerous

2166
02:14:19,680 --> 02:14:23,370
occasions, we do not collect
intelligence to provide a

2167
02:14:23,370 --> 02:14:27,210
competitive advantage to United
States companies, the United

2168
02:14:27,210 --> 02:14:31,290
States commercial sector, our
economic security and our

2169
02:14:31,290 --> 02:14:35,070
ability to compete fairly in the
global marketplace are directly

2170
02:14:35,070 --> 02:14:37,050
linked to our national security.

2171
02:14:37,950 --> 02:14:43,410
There you go. Yeah, we don't we
don't do that. So there's an

2172
02:14:43,410 --> 02:14:47,340
indictment of five guys who are
never going to catch up because

2173
02:14:47,340 --> 02:14:48,060
they're in

2174
02:14:48,600 --> 02:14:51,330
China. It's it could be just
anonymous names for all we know.

2175
02:14:51,630 --> 02:14:57,450
It's so why does holder do this?
Why when there's such an

2176
02:14:57,450 --> 02:15:03,390
important meeting happening
Wait, is this guy insane? In

2177
02:15:03,390 --> 02:15:07,350
fact, before you answer, let's
go to our friend Matt from

2178
02:15:07,380 --> 02:15:11,580
Associated Press, who asked Jen
Psaki this very question.

2179
02:15:11,940 --> 02:15:13,830
So in other words, what you're
saying is the Department of

2180
02:15:13,830 --> 02:15:16,860
Justice came to you and said,
we're going to do this. And you

2181
02:15:16,860 --> 02:15:20,430
said, the building set. Okay.
And then you went and told the

2182
02:15:20,430 --> 02:15:23,040
Chinese that before the
announcement, that's not it?

2183
02:15:23,040 --> 02:15:27,180
Well, that is about the timeline
of things. Yes. Okay. We say

2184
02:15:27,180 --> 02:15:29,550
assaults with governments on a
regular basis as the State

2185
02:15:29,550 --> 02:15:33,180
Department, did the State
Department think that it was a

2186
02:15:33,180 --> 02:15:39,690
good idea to do this, given the
reaction of the Chinese

2187
02:15:39,690 --> 02:15:42,960
government, to indictments that
even the Justice Department

2188
02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:47,100
doesn't think it will ever be
able to prosecute. And the fact

2189
02:15:47,220 --> 02:15:54,870
that it happened as President
Putin was flying to China. Can

2190
02:15:54,870 --> 02:16:00,120
you explain how this was not an
what seems to be just an epic

2191
02:16:01,140 --> 02:16:01,890
fuckup

2192
02:16:02,940 --> 02:16:08,430
timing disaster? You are,
correct me if I'm wrong, seeking

2193
02:16:08,460 --> 02:16:12,600
Chinese help, cooperation on any
number of issues ranging from

2194
02:16:12,600 --> 02:16:18,480
North Korea, to Iran, to Syria
to wherever is that right? Even

2195
02:16:19,470 --> 02:16:23,310
at the same time, you are
engaged in preparatory

2196
02:16:23,310 --> 02:16:25,230
discussions for the SN Ed.

2197
02:16:26,640 --> 02:16:31,380
That's the at the security
Economic Summit. I think it is

2198
02:16:31,560 --> 02:16:32,250
the SEC, I

2199
02:16:32,250 --> 02:16:33,630
think so something like that.

2200
02:16:33,779 --> 02:16:37,619
So I don't know, I just find it
very difficult to believe that

2201
02:16:37,619 --> 02:16:42,479
the State Department would say
to the Justice Department, okay,

2202
02:16:42,479 --> 02:16:45,419
yeah, this is a good idea. Let's
announce these indictments which

2203
02:16:45,419 --> 02:16:49,079
we're never going to prosecute.
It's just for show, as the

2204
02:16:49,079 --> 02:16:55,589
attorney general surge is a wake
up call to the Chinese. And, and

2205
02:16:55,589 --> 02:17:00,479
you just basically drove the
Chinese into Putin's arms.

2206
02:17:00,660 --> 02:17:03,000
So what's your take on this,
John, because that's exactly the

2207
02:17:03,000 --> 02:17:04,050
take I had on it.

2208
02:17:06,300 --> 02:17:10,020
I'm not buying that they drove
the Chuck, I think this is a one

2209
02:17:10,020 --> 02:17:12,570
for one thing that let's start
with the reality of this, that

2210
02:17:12,570 --> 02:17:16,440
building that they found this
bull crap going on and was

2211
02:17:16,440 --> 02:17:21,240
spotted and and discussed in the
media about two or three months

2212
02:17:21,240 --> 02:17:25,260
ago, even longer ago, I think,
maybe could be my timeframe

2213
02:17:25,260 --> 02:17:28,350
could be wrong, but it's been a
known entity, it's been sitting

2214
02:17:28,350 --> 02:17:32,550
there. And now they I guess they
penetrated it somehow, or it

2215
02:17:32,550 --> 02:17:34,680
took them that long, or they
always knew all along. And so

2216
02:17:34,680 --> 02:17:38,100
they had to do do this thing out
of the blue at the last minute

2217
02:17:38,160 --> 02:17:46,230
or for this particular at this
moment. I'm thinking that, you

2218
02:17:46,230 --> 02:17:50,460
know, it's just like, I have no
idea why they timed it for this.

2219
02:17:50,460 --> 02:17:53,340
It is a meaningless effort. It
has something to do with

2220
02:17:53,340 --> 02:17:56,730
hacking, you know, the hacking
newsletter hacking stories.

2221
02:17:57,090 --> 02:18:00,030
Do you think do you think it's
possible that it was meant to

2222
02:18:00,030 --> 02:18:04,320
actually, the oil of the
pipeline deal wasn't signed?

2223
02:18:04,350 --> 02:18:06,660
until the last minute, you don't
think that there was just no,

2224
02:18:06,660 --> 02:18:07,830
just a little push? No,

2225
02:18:07,950 --> 02:18:11,010
no, no, I don't think so. I
really think that we don't have

2226
02:18:11,010 --> 02:18:16,350
a clue why they did this at this
moment. It's just I saw felt the

2227
02:18:16,350 --> 02:18:18,360
same way as Why didn't you
actually clip it or deal with

2228
02:18:18,360 --> 02:18:24,330
it? Because I was baffled by the
whole thing. It's like, it may

2229
02:18:24,330 --> 02:18:27,600
have to do with that special
that frontline ran. I mean, it's

2230
02:18:27,600 --> 02:18:31,260
Ryan, the timing of that is
right on the money. It's like

2231
02:18:31,260 --> 02:18:34,920
frontline runs a special this
the United States of secrecy.

2232
02:18:34,920 --> 02:18:37,020
And then they throw this thing
into the pot, which we would

2233
02:18:37,020 --> 02:18:40,800
known was going on all along,
right in the middle of the

2234
02:18:40,830 --> 02:18:44,040
showing of that story, which was
getting, I'm sure a lot of

2235
02:18:44,160 --> 02:18:47,670
people calling their congressmen
bitching. And so they throw this

2236
02:18:47,670 --> 02:18:49,620
thing in there. Now they got it.
Well, you know, we have to do it

2237
02:18:49,620 --> 02:18:52,260
because the Chinese do it.
That's the only thing that's

2238
02:18:52,260 --> 02:18:54,810
even remotely possible in my
mind. Good point.

2239
02:18:56,280 --> 02:18:59,490
And well, so the interesting
thing, of course, is, you know,

2240
02:18:59,490 --> 02:19:04,050
it's another little chink in the
armour. I'm just not I'm not

2241
02:19:04,050 --> 02:19:07,410
sure who's on whose side you
know, but I'm not completely

2242
02:19:07,410 --> 02:19:13,050
convinced that as you know, that
anyone has America's best

2243
02:19:13,050 --> 02:19:17,250
interests at heart. I just I
just don't see any we we know

2244
02:19:17,250 --> 02:19:23,040
that. Kerry and Nudelman all the
Neo cons. They all want the the

2245
02:19:23,040 --> 02:19:29,370
IMF reform signed and ratified
because they're all globalist

2246
02:19:29,370 --> 02:19:32,460
they all want the SDR stuff to
happen. They don't care.

2247
02:19:34,680 --> 02:19:39,090
Everyone's got their kids in
Kyiv. Yeah. Hey, kids in Kyiv

2248
02:19:39,090 --> 02:19:39,660
There you go.

2249
02:19:39,720 --> 02:19:44,370
Oh, and they got in Biden's kids
working in Did you so so by the

2250
02:19:44,370 --> 02:19:47,700
way? Yeah. I want to get I have
Ukraine clip that I want to get

2251
02:19:47,700 --> 02:19:50,430
out of the way because it to
kind of complicates the matter

2252
02:19:50,430 --> 02:19:55,350
of the of Ukraine. Dice that it
kind of confuses things and this

2253
02:19:55,350 --> 02:19:58,200
is the one you I've had this
clip for a couple of weeks, but

2254
02:19:58,200 --> 02:20:01,500
I just haven't had an excuse to
play It played this clip because

2255
02:20:01,500 --> 02:20:05,490
it's very interesting. In the
wake of the severance of

2256
02:20:05,490 --> 02:20:08,730
political ties between Kyiv and
Moscow, both countries are

2257
02:20:08,730 --> 02:20:11,340
looking at how to limit the
damage to their multibillion

2258
02:20:11,340 --> 02:20:14,970
dollar military industries which
have been entwined for decades.

2259
02:20:15,810 --> 02:20:19,500
Kyiv could ex trade with Moscow,
its biggest buyer of military

2260
02:20:19,500 --> 02:20:23,550
equipment may be able to offset
1000s of job losses by exploring

2261
02:20:23,550 --> 02:20:26,340
newly opened market
opportunities in the EU.

2262
02:20:26,370 --> 02:20:29,670
However, Russia faces a lengthy
and expensive challenge in

2263
02:20:29,670 --> 02:20:32,400
replacing the hundreds of
Ukrainian companies we provide

2264
02:20:32,400 --> 02:20:36,720
crucial parts of the Russian
arsenal. About 400 Russian

2265
02:20:36,720 --> 02:20:39,990
defence companies over a third
of the country's total rely on

2266
02:20:39,990 --> 02:20:43,950
Ukrainian expertise and military
manufacturing. If Kyiv outlawed

2267
02:20:43,950 --> 02:20:46,890
such cooperation, Russia's state
armaments programme would be

2268
02:20:46,890 --> 02:20:51,420
seriously damaged. Russia's arms
industry relies on motor sich

2269
02:20:51,420 --> 02:20:54,990
aeroplane engines built in the
Ukrainian city of Persia and

2270
02:20:54,990 --> 02:20:58,980
turbines from the Zarya mesh
project complex in Nikolaev in

2271
02:20:58,980 --> 02:21:01,800
southern Ukraine are an
important component of Russia's

2272
02:21:01,800 --> 02:21:06,090
maritime fleet. Russia also
needs Ukrainian expertise from

2273
02:21:06,090 --> 02:21:09,390
state owned company usually
which oversees maintenance of

2274
02:21:09,390 --> 02:21:13,200
Russia's nuclear missiles huge
mesh also a state owned company

2275
02:21:13,230 --> 02:21:16,230
manufactures missiles,
satellites and spacecraft used

2276
02:21:16,230 --> 02:21:20,340
by Russia. Experts say it could
be at least a decade before

2277
02:21:20,340 --> 02:21:22,890
Russia would be able to gain
military independence from

2278
02:21:22,890 --> 02:21:25,860
Ukraine is Moscow needing to
invest heavily in constructing

2279
02:21:25,860 --> 02:21:30,180
entirely new arms manufacturing
sectors. Although a complete

2280
02:21:30,180 --> 02:21:32,550
termination of military
alliances between Russian and

2281
02:21:32,550 --> 02:21:35,430
Ukrainian defence companies
would be catastrophic for both

2282
02:21:35,430 --> 02:21:36,030
countries in

2283
02:21:36,030 --> 02:21:39,120
the short run prospects for
Ukraine look better with a host

2284
02:21:39,120 --> 02:21:42,120
of EU defence manufacturers
already eager to enter the

2285
02:21:42,120 --> 02:21:43,740
lucrative Ukrainian market.

2286
02:21:44,400 --> 02:21:48,120
War. All wars are banker wars
beautiful. And

2287
02:21:49,560 --> 02:21:51,420
fun find that an interesting
report.

2288
02:21:51,449 --> 02:21:57,329
Yeah. Yeah, we need more war.
Well, it's going to happen.

2289
02:21:58,019 --> 02:22:01,979
Something bad is going to
happen. And I can tell you why

2290
02:22:01,979 --> 02:22:10,139
the signals are right here. May
25. Sunday, we have the vote for

2291
02:22:10,139 --> 02:22:14,879
this is the presidential
election. And there will be a

2292
02:22:14,879 --> 02:22:21,359
team of observers to supervise
the presidential election. And

2293
02:22:21,359 --> 02:22:22,979
who will be leading that team.

2294
02:22:25,380 --> 02:22:31,800
Biden, close enough. Madeleine
Albright oh my god worse.

2295
02:22:32,250 --> 02:22:35,430
I mean, you could not have a
worse. First of all, she's a

2296
02:22:35,430 --> 02:22:43,950
zombie. She is She is a zombie.
And she's essentially they're

2297
02:22:43,950 --> 02:22:44,100
just

2298
02:22:44,100 --> 02:22:46,560
hiring her. Something's wrong
with her. Well,

2299
02:22:46,560 --> 02:22:50,130
they're hiring her company but
she has a huge rip the Albright

2300
02:22:51,270 --> 02:22:57,390
what does that what does that
thing called the Albright it's

2301
02:22:57,390 --> 02:23:01,290
huge. Everybody's in that thing.
The Albright can Albright

2302
02:23:01,290 --> 02:23:04,830
consulting. I think this makes
sense. Right. All right.

2303
02:23:04,830 --> 02:23:09,870
Consulting. Here we go. No,
that's not it. What is that

2304
02:23:09,870 --> 02:23:12,090
thing called the John?

2305
02:23:13,530 --> 02:23:14,730
Aid adult break?

2306
02:23:15,000 --> 02:23:17,640
Look at it. Albright Stonebridge
Group. There you go. The

2307
02:23:17,640 --> 02:23:23,010
Albright Stonebridge Group. This
thing is big, global strategy

2308
02:23:23,010 --> 02:23:26,640
and business advisory firm led
by former US Secretary of State

2309
02:23:27,300 --> 02:23:31,410
in the Clinton administration,
Madeleine Albright. Embassy, Sam

2310
02:23:31,410 --> 02:23:37,200
Berger is in there. We have they
got offices in Beijing,

2311
02:23:37,200 --> 02:23:42,870
Shanghai, San Paulo, New Delhi,
the Albright group, and stone

2312
02:23:42,870 --> 02:23:49,170
bridge LLC, they merged in 2009.
They've worked in 65. So in when

2313
02:23:49,170 --> 02:23:52,560
you want something to happen in
a country, you call these guys,

2314
02:23:52,890 --> 02:23:55,620
but you want to get a deal
together. You call these guys.

2315
02:23:56,640 --> 02:23:59,880
That's who you want to. That's
who you want to call of now

2316
02:23:59,880 --> 02:24:04,680
they're overseeing the election
process. Yeah. We speak the

2317
02:24:04,680 --> 02:24:06,720
languages of businesses and
governments translating

2318
02:24:06,750 --> 02:24:10,710
opportunities and risks and the
benefits and rewards. See if

2319
02:24:10,710 --> 02:24:19,020
there's anything under news,
Albright stonebridge.com. Wow,

2320
02:24:19,920 --> 02:24:23,310
that is funny. They're doing all
kinds of voting stuff. The

2321
02:24:23,310 --> 02:24:27,030
senior counsellor Ambassador
Gyps are an op ed in the

2322
02:24:27,030 --> 02:24:30,960
upcoming South African
elections. Senior Advisor Brown

2323
02:24:30,960 --> 02:24:35,820
has profile and see voting
continues in India are bad you

2324
02:24:35,820 --> 02:24:47,280
know, such a big game. It's such
a big game nobody understands

2325
02:24:47,280 --> 02:24:47,640
this.

2326
02:24:49,680 --> 02:24:54,960
You Yeah, well, we do not cut
part of it. That's for sure.

2327
02:24:55,470 --> 02:24:59,970
Interesting report that came out
about in regard to Common Core

2328
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:05,040
ore and the whole stem push
science, technology, engineering

2329
02:25:05,040 --> 02:25:09,060
and math. And I don't know if
you saw any of this, John, the

2330
02:25:09,060 --> 02:25:15,240
report, which I looked at the
report, who did this report,

2331
02:25:15,240 --> 02:25:17,640
there wasn't actually it was a
report and they brought in a

2332
02:25:17,640 --> 02:25:22,470
number of reports from the RAND
Corporation, epi Economic Policy

2333
02:25:22,470 --> 02:25:29,310
Institute. And as it turns out,
there is absolutely no shortage

2334
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:37,410
of workers with STEM degrees for
STEM jobs. And this whole push

2335
02:25:37,410 --> 02:25:42,090
for STEM, which as we know,
certainly in the Common Core

2336
02:25:42,090 --> 02:25:47,670
realm is being paid for by
Microsoft and Motorola and

2337
02:25:49,050 --> 02:25:55,680
Intel. And Dell is only meant
for one thing and one thing only

2338
02:25:56,550 --> 02:25:57,630
wage suppression.

2339
02:26:02,250 --> 02:26:05,970
Okay, yeah, you know, that's
what you said is that I should

2340
02:26:05,970 --> 02:26:09,360
have spotted it myself as a
former Union organiser. Yeah,

2341
02:26:09,750 --> 02:26:12,690
it's exactly what it is. You're
paying too much money and it's

2342
02:26:12,690 --> 02:26:15,030
getting too difficult to get the
Indians to come over because you

2343
02:26:15,030 --> 02:26:19,590
they'll work for cheap. And
yeah, that's good. I like it.

2344
02:26:19,680 --> 02:26:23,070
Yeah. And it makes the guy this
is what this guy at Davis has

2345
02:26:23,070 --> 02:26:25,740
been saying for years. This is
all this stuff is bullcrap.

2346
02:26:25,920 --> 02:26:28,830
We've got plenty of people that
will can do any of these jobs,

2347
02:26:28,830 --> 02:26:30,540
but no one wants to pay him what
they're worth.

2348
02:26:30,600 --> 02:26:37,140
Yeah. And we just had that big
lawsuit. Apple and everyone's

2349
02:26:37,410 --> 02:26:39,150
rooting Yeah,

2350
02:26:39,510 --> 02:26:42,330
right. Right. Right. Right.
Right. Yeah, Apple they should

2351
02:26:42,330 --> 02:26:43,980
throw somebody in jail over this
but they

2352
02:26:43,980 --> 02:26:47,640
won't. Really wasn't a jailable
offence in your in your I think

2353
02:26:47,640 --> 02:26:53,070
it was your house. You can't
read Siddhanta its antitrust

2354
02:26:53,070 --> 02:26:55,230
anti competitive thing. I think
it's I think it's like a

2355
02:26:55,260 --> 02:26:58,680
misdemeanour. I think it's a
jailable. Or maybe even worse is

2356
02:26:58,680 --> 02:27:02,310
a mind it's not a minor thing.
What they did. That kind of

2357
02:27:02,310 --> 02:27:05,970
collusion is against is just
solidly against the law. Right.

2358
02:27:08,760 --> 02:27:12,540
Well, that's so that's, that's
what's going on. And anyone you

2359
02:27:12,540 --> 02:27:15,720
know, pushing your kids towards,
no, I in fact, I'm going to play

2360
02:27:15,720 --> 02:27:16,680
you a little clippy.

2361
02:27:17,550 --> 02:27:20,010
Hey, tell them to take the
saxophone. Instead,

2362
02:27:20,040 --> 02:27:22,560
I found that this is a fun
little clippy, you're going to

2363
02:27:22,560 --> 02:27:26,550
tell me who this is. There we
go. What's this

2364
02:27:26,880 --> 02:27:30,750
child, I dreamed of what I
wanted to become a doctor, a

2365
02:27:30,750 --> 02:27:35,040
teacher, a scientist and
architect. Children today have

2366
02:27:35,040 --> 02:27:38,940
these same dreams, we encourage
them to think big and set their

2367
02:27:38,940 --> 02:27:40,530
sights high. But from

2368
02:27:40,560 --> 02:27:43,320
this, I'll tell you what this is
about. This is a promotional

2369
02:27:43,620 --> 02:27:48,120
video, for a foundation of big
American Corporation Foundation,

2370
02:27:48,720 --> 02:27:53,250
who are financing charter
schools, which of course,

2371
02:27:53,400 --> 02:27:56,280
actually one of our producers
sent this to me, he heard an

2372
02:27:56,280 --> 02:28:01,530
entire piece on NPR about Common
Core. And the underwriter of the

2373
02:28:01,530 --> 02:28:03,450
piece was this outfit

2374
02:28:03,480 --> 02:28:07,260
millions of students in America,
it's much harder for that dream

2375
02:28:07,260 --> 02:28:11,130
to come true. These students are
handed a system that doesn't

2376
02:28:11,130 --> 02:28:15,030
give everyone the same
opportunity to succeed. Students

2377
02:28:15,030 --> 02:28:18,270
from low income communities are
often forced to attend

2378
02:28:18,300 --> 02:28:21,990
underperforming schools that
fail to prepare them to succeed

2379
02:28:21,990 --> 02:28:26,010
in college and their careers.
Nearly three quarters of low

2380
02:28:26,010 --> 02:28:29,010
income fourth graders are not
proficient in reading.

2381
02:28:29,190 --> 02:28:34,110
You've got to see the video to
this but they use that OECD data

2382
02:28:34,110 --> 02:28:36,210
but they're not really seeing
you really using the data you

2383
02:28:36,210 --> 02:28:39,810
just see little maps of
countries you see Japan and

2384
02:28:39,810 --> 02:28:43,500
China and their charts are way
bigger than America. No numbers

2385
02:28:43,500 --> 02:28:46,980
are just like a big bar chart.
It says that we just suck. We

2386
02:28:46,980 --> 02:28:50,280
just horrible. We're dumb with
dummies which is which is not

2387
02:28:50,280 --> 02:28:54,210
true and rough. Which is not
true. No, it's percentage small

2388
02:28:54,210 --> 02:28:54,870
percentages

2389
02:28:54,900 --> 02:28:59,160
of every five black and Hispanic
teenagers do not graduate from

2390
02:28:59,160 --> 02:29:02,190
high school, cutting their
dreams short and setting the

2391
02:29:02,190 --> 02:29:05,910
stage for unemployment,
increased crime and a host of

2392
02:29:05,910 --> 02:29:10,200
other problems. Like drugs
failure affects all of America

2393
02:29:10,320 --> 02:29:15,450
as we all sort of our ideals of
equal opportunity lag farther

2394
02:29:15,450 --> 02:29:17,550
and farther behind other
countries.

2395
02:29:17,670 --> 02:29:20,820
All right, who do you think it
is? The reveal is coming

2396
02:29:21,510 --> 02:29:22,290
Microsoft

2397
02:29:22,380 --> 02:29:27,660
Academic Achievement as a parent
even know for immediate action

2398
02:29:27,690 --> 02:29:31,800
the Google will transform our
public schools is better and

2399
02:29:31,800 --> 02:29:35,040
give our children the
opportunity to not only dream

2400
02:29:35,040 --> 02:29:39,480
big but also see their dreams
come true. The Walton Family

2401
02:29:39,480 --> 02:29:40,170
Foundation

2402
02:29:41,700 --> 02:29:47,490
right the cheapest bastards in
Walmart, there's a huge one

2403
02:29:47,490 --> 02:29:50,160
that's doing they're doing a
huge push here about we're gonna

2404
02:29:50,160 --> 02:29:53,430
hire 100,000 veterans you know
as and is obviously you know,

2405
02:29:53,430 --> 02:29:56,430
low paying jobs you say a load
of people coming in. We have to

2406
02:29:56,430 --> 02:29:59,040
wrap this up because you have to
go to bed and I'm fearful that

2407
02:29:59,460 --> 02:30:02,310
because of the mistakes that
have had happened on the show,

2408
02:30:02,520 --> 02:30:07,860
including mine of sending the
old spreadsheet. I looked it up.

2409
02:30:07,890 --> 02:30:08,280
I'm just

2410
02:30:08,310 --> 02:30:11,970
I'm just getting into it. I'm
just having fun. Now you want to

2411
02:30:11,970 --> 02:30:13,080
have a you know, you want to
quit?

2412
02:30:14,040 --> 02:30:18,300
Well, it's like if we, you know,
at some point we have to cut the

2413
02:30:18,300 --> 02:30:22,050
show off and finish. Yeah. So
you can well, the way I see it

2414
02:30:22,080 --> 02:30:25,140
hosted fall asleep in the
meantime. Well, the way

2415
02:30:25,140 --> 02:30:28,980
I see it is we are at two hours
without because we lost 20

2416
02:30:28,980 --> 02:30:32,040
minutes. We're now at two hours
and 25 minutes. So we got five

2417
02:30:32,040 --> 02:30:36,180
more minutes to go. You have
something I will I will fill

2418
02:30:36,180 --> 02:30:37,080
this with joy.

2419
02:30:38,550 --> 02:30:39,420
Okay, fill it.

2420
02:30:40,710 --> 02:30:46,620
The 911 Museum opened in in New
York City to a lot of

2421
02:30:46,650 --> 02:30:49,590
controversy, obviously, because
they're selling little

2422
02:30:49,590 --> 02:30:50,460
tchotchkes

2423
02:30:52,470 --> 02:30:56,190
the burning building globe and a
snow globe.

2424
02:30:58,380 --> 02:31:00,810
Do you know this for a fact, it
was a burning

2425
02:31:00,810 --> 02:31:03,270
building snowglobe it's an
moneymaker.

2426
02:31:04,680 --> 02:31:08,010
Like, you know, little pieces of
steel keychains and there's a

2427
02:31:08,010 --> 02:31:10,920
lot of controversy. A lot of
people are very angry about this

2428
02:31:11,190 --> 02:31:16,200
very angry. And and so of
course, you know, we need to

2429
02:31:16,230 --> 02:31:21,210
circumvent this. And we need to
bring in some experts and the

2430
02:31:21,210 --> 02:31:25,500
best thing you can do is just
turn it into a truther thing.

2431
02:31:26,490 --> 02:31:30,720
Two clips both from CNN, of
course. Don Lemon first, he is

2432
02:31:30,720 --> 02:31:34,320
now going to spin the Truther
museum which it sounds pretty

2433
02:31:34,320 --> 02:31:38,970
disgusting to me. And we so this
is a memorial. This is where all

2434
02:31:38,970 --> 02:31:43,080
these people died. And instead
of saying hey, you know this

2435
02:31:43,080 --> 02:31:46,590
museum is a little weird with
the burning building snowglobe

2436
02:31:46,980 --> 02:31:52,560
No, let's make it about 911
truthers and both he and Jake

2437
02:31:52,560 --> 02:31:55,770
Tapper, just Jake Tapper, and
he's not he's not even

2438
02:31:55,770 --> 02:31:59,610
pretending to care anymore. But
Don Lemon still kind of gets

2439
02:31:59,610 --> 02:32:01,080
into it back with me now,

2440
02:32:01,110 --> 02:32:03,690
New York State Assemblywoman
Nicole Malliotakis. Allison, I

2441
02:32:03,690 --> 02:32:06,000
want to turn to you because
you're you said that you're okay

2442
02:32:06,390 --> 02:32:09,990
with this gift shop. But what do
you how do you feel about these

2443
02:32:09,990 --> 02:32:13,230
truthers that are coming out and
sort of promulgating this whole

2444
02:32:13,230 --> 02:32:17,010
myth of 911 that it was an
inside job outside the museum at

2445
02:32:17,010 --> 02:32:18,300
the memorial. What do you make
of that

2446
02:32:18,330 --> 02:32:21,720
now now? So this is a New York
Assemblywoman and he's he's just

2447
02:32:22,620 --> 02:32:26,820
washed away the whole the
controversy over the gift shop.

2448
02:32:27,060 --> 02:32:30,900
And what do you make of these
crazy truthers? She has some new

2449
02:32:30,900 --> 02:32:32,580
information I was not aware of.

2450
02:32:33,210 --> 02:32:35,640
Well, I think it's very
unfortunate, and it's very

2451
02:32:35,640 --> 02:32:39,390
insensitive of these people. But
this is a country that has

2452
02:32:39,390 --> 02:32:44,640
freedom of speech. So I you
know, I suppose they have their

2453
02:32:44,640 --> 02:32:47,910
right to say whatever they feel
they're not well informed. Oh,

2454
02:32:48,630 --> 02:32:50,970
you know, nobody was standing
there pushing a button and

2455
02:32:50,970 --> 02:32:52,920
saying, Alright, time to
collapse the buildings that the

2456
02:32:52,920 --> 02:32:55,890
buildings were, were
structurally compromised by.

2457
02:32:56,250 --> 02:33:00,990
Okay, let me just say no one
asked you for this opinion.

2458
02:33:01,260 --> 02:33:03,510
Nobody was saying there were the
button.

2459
02:33:05,100 --> 02:33:08,310
The attacks and when they were
built, as I understand it, I

2460
02:33:08,310 --> 02:33:12,810
attended the the skyscraper
safety hearings for the 911

2461
02:33:12,810 --> 02:33:13,410
Commission.

2462
02:33:13,950 --> 02:33:17,310
Now I've never heard of the
skyscraper safety hearings for

2463
02:33:17,310 --> 02:33:21,960
the 911 commission I follow this
very closely I read the report

2464
02:33:21,960 --> 02:33:25,050
of course I've never heard of
this commission she attended it

2465
02:33:25,170 --> 02:33:26,940
and here's some new information

2466
02:33:26,970 --> 02:33:30,120
and I understood that these
buildings were designed to come

2467
02:33:30,120 --> 02:33:33,150
straight down if anything
happened which was unimaginable

2468
02:33:33,180 --> 02:33:37,740
that time to prevent a larger
greater damage of them toppling

2469
02:33:37,740 --> 02:33:38,460
over in

2470
02:33:38,490 --> 02:33:43,170
okay let me get this straight
these buildings including John

2471
02:33:45,780 --> 02:33:50,580
Gallo which had absolutely no
plane fly into it were designed

2472
02:33:50,850 --> 02:33:55,860
were designed mind you to
collapse at the at the speeds

2473
02:33:55,860 --> 02:34:00,750
drop down straight down at
gravity speed. Even if there was

2474
02:34:00,750 --> 02:34:01,500
just fire

2475
02:34:02,850 --> 02:34:08,010
in one piece so you know, it
wasn't topple over like a Jenga

2476
02:34:09,390 --> 02:34:12,360
look out its toppling push that
button and said Alright time to

2477
02:34:12,420 --> 02:34:15,090
collapse these things they just
just

2478
02:34:15,120 --> 02:34:18,240
no no you know when you say this
twice lady no one pressed a

2479
02:34:18,240 --> 02:34:20,190
button and says try to collapse
they just

2480
02:34:20,190 --> 02:34:22,950
came down. Oh, no, you know,
people have been saying the

2481
02:34:22,950 --> 02:34:25,620
world is ending. Oh, yeah. Big
newspaper headlines. Oh,

2482
02:34:25,650 --> 02:34:28,650
so now the newspapers are
conspiracy theorists apparently

2483
02:34:28,650 --> 02:34:28,860
long

2484
02:34:28,860 --> 02:34:31,980
time so it's just I put it in
that category. Oh, of

2485
02:34:31,980 --> 02:34:36,420
newspapers, okay. of utter
nonsense. You know, people just

2486
02:34:36,420 --> 02:34:37,560
need to be informed.

2487
02:34:37,590 --> 02:34:41,370
Okay, we need to be informed.
Okay. All right. So I'm just a

2488
02:34:41,370 --> 02:34:43,080
little confused about how

2489
02:34:44,580 --> 02:34:46,260
the gift shop to Okay, let's

2490
02:34:46,260 --> 02:34:50,640
go to Jake Tapper. Now he brings
on that he's running out of

2491
02:34:50,640 --> 02:34:53,910
ideas or the CNN is so they
couldn't get the assembly woman

2492
02:34:53,910 --> 02:34:57,750
let's bring on I don't know,
some debts from Slate Magazine.

2493
02:34:57,750 --> 02:35:00,570
What do you say John? That that
could be funny. Robert 11th

2494
02:35:00,570 --> 02:35:03,030
memorial museum opens to the
public this week in lower

2495
02:35:03,030 --> 02:35:05,880
Manhattan in some conspiracy
theorist crazies who are

2496
02:35:05,880 --> 02:35:09,510
apparently no strangers to
Photoshop I plan on attending.

2497
02:35:09,840 --> 02:35:12,300
According to the Village Voice,
this is really good newspaper

2498
02:35:12,300 --> 02:35:14,790
which broke the story that
conspiracy group architects and

2499
02:35:14,790 --> 02:35:19,080
engineers for 911 truth. This is
now a conspiracy group, I have

2500
02:35:19,080 --> 02:35:20,550
to say of all the people

2501
02:35:21,300 --> 02:35:24,630
of all the groups that is the
most legitimate it's yes,

2502
02:35:24,840 --> 02:35:29,430
that end pilots for 911 Truth,
which I'm a member of, because

2503
02:35:29,460 --> 02:35:34,260
you know, the NIST report says
these aircraft fluid 530 miles

2504
02:35:34,260 --> 02:35:39,540
per hour 2000 feet? I don't
think so. But okay, and there's

2505
02:35:39,540 --> 02:35:43,590
all kinds of discrepancies, but
architects and engineers, that's

2506
02:35:43,590 --> 02:35:47,130
a conspiracy group now. Wow.
Plan on standing outside the

2507
02:35:47,130 --> 02:35:51,030
entrance on opening day to hand
out fake museum brochures

2508
02:35:51,030 --> 02:35:54,240
designed to look exactly like
the real ones. Okay, so let's

2509
02:35:54,240 --> 02:35:57,330
not talk about the museum. Let's
talk about crazy truthers. Take

2510
02:35:57,330 --> 02:35:59,970
a look on the left side of your
screen the real deal Welcome to

2511
02:35:59,970 --> 02:36:02,910
the 911 Memorial preview
visitors guide for adults on the

2512
02:36:02,910 --> 02:36:06,300
right, the group's handiwork
Welcome to the other story about

2513
02:36:06,300 --> 02:36:09,780
911 That's of course, the false
one. Inside they claim they've

2514
02:36:09,780 --> 02:36:14,280
compiled quote a vast amount of
evidence. I'm using the term

2515
02:36:14,280 --> 02:36:18,930
loosely they're probing I'll
tell you Jake, cuz you know, of

2516
02:36:18,930 --> 02:36:21,480
course Jake has his own
thoughts, but he's been told to

2517
02:36:21,480 --> 02:36:26,580
hate you. What you need to do is
discredit these guys and

2518
02:36:26,580 --> 02:36:31,560
distract attention away from the
museum, which is kind of sick.

2519
02:36:32,100 --> 02:36:36,180
And just go, Jake, we're gonna
get this this ditzy chicken just

2520
02:36:36,180 --> 02:36:39,660
go nuts. That's their word, not
ours. But all three World Trade

2521
02:36:39,660 --> 02:36:41,850
Centre skyscrapers were
deliberately destroyed by

2522
02:36:41,850 --> 02:36:44,730
explosives on 911. Of course,
they don't actually prevent

2523
02:36:44,730 --> 02:36:47,010
anything except for man's
capacity for believing crazy

2524
02:36:47,010 --> 02:36:51,060
things. And man's insensitivity
to for instance, the families of

2525
02:36:51,060 --> 02:36:54,540
the approximately 3000 people
killed in New York, the Pentagon

2526
02:36:54,540 --> 02:36:57,840
and in a field in Pennsylvania,
by Islamic terrorists with al

2527
02:36:57,840 --> 02:37:00,780
Qaeda as every credible
investigation has actually

2528
02:37:00,780 --> 02:37:06,660
proven. Do you think Jake could
sleep at night after this one?

2529
02:37:06,660 --> 02:37:08,640
Yeah. Do you think do you think
he was okay?

2530
02:37:09,359 --> 02:37:13,949
I think he was fine. Let's bring
in. These guys aren't all in on

2531
02:37:13,949 --> 02:37:14,159
this.

2532
02:37:14,160 --> 02:37:16,890
Let's bring in and well let's
bring in Emily. Emily is great.

2533
02:37:16,890 --> 02:37:19,230
And your editor at slate for
more on this app. Does anyone

2534
02:37:19,230 --> 02:37:22,020
still read Slate Magazine? Is
that is that a website? Or what

2535
02:37:22,020 --> 02:37:22,470
is that?

2536
02:37:22,949 --> 02:37:28,949
It's owned by Microsoft. So you.
We are more than a decade after

2537
02:37:28,949 --> 02:37:31,109
the crash take it back to
Washington Post bought it.

2538
02:37:31,349 --> 02:37:35,519
Okay, it was even worse. Yes.
It's Amazon is that Microsoft is

2539
02:37:35,519 --> 02:37:39,269
Amazon. Gotcha. And why did
these truthers have such staying

2540
02:37:39,269 --> 02:37:39,809
power?

2541
02:37:40,830 --> 02:37:43,650
It's such a good question the
persistence of this theory, you

2542
02:37:43,650 --> 02:37:46,500
know, usually with a conspiracy
theory, you imagine that people

2543
02:37:46,500 --> 02:37:49,920
are trying to make sense of the
senseless. But with 911, we have

2544
02:37:49,920 --> 02:37:53,970
a real conspiracy called Al
Qaeda. And so one has to imagine

2545
02:37:53,970 --> 02:37:57,870
that the anti government
motivation of the 911 truthers

2546
02:37:57,870 --> 02:38:00,600
is really what's driving this
because if you could imagine

2547
02:38:00,840 --> 02:38:04,290
that the nine that the
government made up 911 As a

2548
02:38:04,290 --> 02:38:07,110
hoax, then the government is
completely monstrous. There is

2549
02:38:07,110 --> 02:38:10,230
no reason to believe anything
any federal official says, and

2550
02:38:10,230 --> 02:38:11,880
certainly no reason to pay your
taxes,

2551
02:38:11,910 --> 02:38:19,020
you're making my point for me.
So pay your taxes, the lady from

2552
02:38:19,020 --> 02:38:21,900
Slate said it don't pay it.
There's no reason if you think

2553
02:38:21,900 --> 02:38:24,720
the government is evil, don't
pay your taxes. There's no

2554
02:38:24,720 --> 02:38:29,220
reason. And what happens when
this kind of nonsense hits the

2555
02:38:29,220 --> 02:38:32,610
echo chamber of the internet.
Oh, well, that's what makes a

2556
02:38:32,610 --> 02:38:34,110
good podcast, of course,

2557
02:38:34,500 --> 02:38:38,280
well, it tends to multiply
online and you see these dark

2558
02:38:38,280 --> 02:38:39,780
corners of the internet.

2559
02:38:41,100 --> 02:38:45,450
Hello, I mean, the dark corner
of the internet over here. It

2560
02:38:45,450 --> 02:38:46,650
covered the dark corner

2561
02:38:46,680 --> 02:38:51,870
where people pile on and there's
this very minute parsing of the

2562
02:38:51,870 --> 02:38:55,980
technicalities of the suppose
that evidence and more and more

2563
02:38:56,010 --> 02:38:59,370
detail gets added and
accumulated and it kind of feeds

2564
02:38:59,370 --> 02:39:00,060
on itself.

2565
02:39:00,090 --> 02:39:03,120
And the idea here, he's not
going to stop right. It's not

2566
02:39:03,120 --> 02:39:07,620
just that the three buildings
were destroyed by explosives

2567
02:39:07,620 --> 02:39:11,010
that it's all part of this grand
conspiracy where the US

2568
02:39:11,010 --> 02:39:14,490
government. I mean, let me let
me state if I hadn't made it

2569
02:39:14,490 --> 02:39:17,460
clear enough. None of this is
true. This is all just crazy

2570
02:39:17,460 --> 02:39:23,640
talk. This is crazy talk. Don't
pay your taxes, crazy talk, but

2571
02:39:23,640 --> 02:39:26,640
that the US government faked it
killed all these people

2572
02:39:26,640 --> 02:39:30,930
intentionally. It was just to
start a war in Iraq and another

2573
02:39:30,930 --> 02:39:33,750
one in Afghanistan. Is that is
that that the idea that they're

2574
02:39:33,750 --> 02:39:38,610
going for here? Let me see.
Let's listen to General Wesley

2575
02:39:38,610 --> 02:39:40,560
Clark for a second. About

2576
02:39:40,560 --> 02:39:43,740
10 days after 911. I went
through the Pentagon and I saw

2577
02:39:43,740 --> 02:39:47,550
Secretary Rumsfeld and, and
Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz, I

2578
02:39:47,550 --> 02:39:50,310
went downstairs just sail over
some of the people in the joint

2579
02:39:50,310 --> 02:39:53,190
staff who used to work for me
and one of the generals call me

2580
02:39:53,190 --> 02:39:55,860
and he said, Sir, you got to
come in. You got to come in and

2581
02:39:55,860 --> 02:39:57,810
talk to me a second. I said,
Well, you're too busy. He said,

2582
02:39:57,810 --> 02:40:02,370
No, no, he says you We've made
the decision. We're going to war

2583
02:40:02,370 --> 02:40:06,900
with Iraq. This was on our about
the 20th of September. I said,

2584
02:40:06,900 --> 02:40:08,820
we're going to war with Iraq.
Why?

2585
02:40:10,440 --> 02:40:15,120
He said, I don't know. He said,
I guess they don't know what

2586
02:40:15,120 --> 02:40:15,900
else to do.

2587
02:40:17,250 --> 02:40:20,370
So I said, Well, do they find
some information collect,

2588
02:40:20,400 --> 02:40:23,910
connecting Saddam to al Qaeda?
And he said, No, no, it's just

2589
02:40:23,910 --> 02:40:27,330
there's nothing new that way.
They just made the decision to

2590
02:40:27,330 --> 02:40:31,080
go to war with Iraq. He said, I
guess it's like, we don't know

2591
02:40:31,080 --> 02:40:34,890
what to do about terrorists. But
we got a good military, and we

2592
02:40:34,890 --> 02:40:38,910
can take down governments. And
he said, I guess if the only

2593
02:40:38,910 --> 02:40:41,730
tool you have is a hammer, every
problem has to look like a nail.

2594
02:40:42,960 --> 02:40:47,310
So I came back to see him a few
weeks later. And by that time,

2595
02:40:47,310 --> 02:40:49,650
we were bombing in Afghanistan,
I said, Are we still going to

2596
02:40:49,650 --> 02:40:52,770
war with Iraq? And he said, Oh,
it's worse than that. He said,

2597
02:40:52,860 --> 02:40:55,200
He reached over on his desk, he
picked up a piece of paper. He

2598
02:40:55,200 --> 02:40:58,410
said, I just, he said, I just
got this down from upstairs

2599
02:40:58,410 --> 02:41:01,050
meeting the secretary of defence
office today. And he said, this

2600
02:41:01,050 --> 02:41:04,050
a memo that describes how we're
going to take out seven

2601
02:41:04,050 --> 02:41:08,100
countries in five years,
starting with Iraq, and then

2602
02:41:08,100 --> 02:41:12,720
Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia,
Sudan, and finishing off Iran,

2603
02:41:13,320 --> 02:41:16,980
is just crazy talk. It's just
crazy talk.

2604
02:41:17,009 --> 02:41:19,889
That's the idea. And just to
stay to this to show how

2605
02:41:19,889 --> 02:41:23,849
horrifying it is. I suppose that
given that the American

2606
02:41:23,849 --> 02:41:29,429
government did put forward some
false ideas to motivate going

2607
02:41:29,429 --> 02:41:31,739
into Iraq, in particular, the
whole idea that there were

2608
02:41:31,739 --> 02:41:34,979
weapons of mass destruction
there that's like the tiny, tiny

2609
02:41:34,979 --> 02:41:36,269
kernel of truth that

2610
02:41:38,880 --> 02:41:44,610
is just a tiny teeny little itty
bitty crumb of little piece of

2611
02:41:44,610 --> 02:41:48,720
nothing. This is nothing.

2612
02:41:49,230 --> 02:41:52,440
There's in some way related to
this completely crazy theory.

2613
02:41:52,770 --> 02:41:55,380
There's also a lot of
scapegoating involved Jews,

2614
02:41:55,830 --> 02:42:00,990
Jews, there's anti semitism,
anti Israel, anti corporations,

2615
02:42:00,990 --> 02:42:02,220
right. Jews

2616
02:42:02,220 --> 02:42:04,860
sweet and I think you see these
virulent

2617
02:42:04,950 --> 02:42:08,970
suape Wait, wait, wait for it.
How about Republicans brains

2618
02:42:08,970 --> 02:42:12,780
that are related to each other
and familiar from fringe, right?

2619
02:42:13,200 --> 02:42:15,030
It's the word virulent again,

2620
02:42:15,060 --> 02:42:18,930
yes. This is this is virulent
what we should look this word

2621
02:42:18,960 --> 02:42:19,350
up.

2622
02:42:20,760 --> 02:42:23,010
What was a meme at the
beginning? All right. Oh,

2623
02:42:23,340 --> 02:42:29,580
Viru lens. What does virulent
mean? Means? Ah, watching

2624
02:42:29,970 --> 02:42:34,650
actively poisonous, intensely
noxious?

2625
02:42:35,460 --> 02:42:37,590
You're gonna hear it a lot.
virulent,

2626
02:42:37,710 --> 02:42:42,120
actively poisonous. Oh, I like
this. This is very, very nice.

2627
02:42:42,360 --> 02:42:46,500
Exactly. And I think you see
these virulent strains that are

2628
02:42:46,500 --> 02:42:50,040
related to each other and
familiar from fringe, right

2629
02:42:50,040 --> 02:42:52,350
wing. And that Yes, exactly.

2630
02:42:52,380 --> 02:42:55,710
Drug right wing talk. Do
Republicans Oh, get

2631
02:42:55,710 --> 02:42:59,820
kind of weirdly braided together
in this particular theory. I've

2632
02:42:59,820 --> 02:43:06,240
had it with her stop. This woman
is an idiot how she's lovely.

2633
02:43:07,500 --> 02:43:10,350
Just still, he's got that
screechy voice like the woman

2634
02:43:10,350 --> 02:43:13,020
with the with putting the the
flute in herself.

2635
02:43:14,790 --> 02:43:18,510
26 more seconds. I know you can
handle it. And historically,

2636
02:43:18,510 --> 02:43:22,080
historically, we can't. Oh, yes,
you can. This is Jake, this is

2637
02:43:22,080 --> 02:43:23,910
Jake. This is five

2638
02:43:23,910 --> 02:43:26,220
minutes in the history of the
show. Viruses come

2639
02:43:26,220 --> 02:43:29,430
after very upsetting events,
Kennedy assassination, the

2640
02:43:29,430 --> 02:43:32,220
assassination of Martin Luther
King, Jr. Is there a pattern

2641
02:43:32,220 --> 02:43:32,910
there? Oh.

2642
02:43:34,470 --> 02:43:39,300
Is there a pattern? Yes. I think
that each time something really

2643
02:43:39,300 --> 02:43:43,200
scary and disastrous happens
people search for meaning. And

2644
02:43:43,200 --> 02:43:46,590
then sometimes even when there
is a clear explanation because

2645
02:43:46,590 --> 02:43:50,850
we have that for 911 in a way
that we didn't for the Kennedy

2646
02:43:50,850 --> 02:43:54,690
assassination certainly at
first, when then you have this

2647
02:43:54,720 --> 02:43:58,830
search for for suppose it other
evidence out there and people

2648
02:43:58,830 --> 02:44:01,800
just kind of pick it up and run
with it even when it seems

2649
02:44:01,800 --> 02:44:05,790
completely unwarranted in this
one time. At Bandcamp. I stuck a

2650
02:44:05,790 --> 02:44:08,910
flute in my purse and Ghazi
Benghazi, Benghazi. Alright,

2651
02:44:10,020 --> 02:44:10,830
cheese.

2652
02:44:10,980 --> 02:44:15,990
See you. Next time. I have a
boring clip of some Nutch job.

2653
02:44:16,200 --> 02:44:18,510
And you say, Oh, I can't play it
anymore. You're playing it?

2654
02:44:19,170 --> 02:44:25,740
Yeah, no, but she was terrible.
I know. I did. But unlistenable

2655
02:44:25,740 --> 02:44:28,590
terrible. She was she was
annoying. And it was a terrible

2656
02:44:28,590 --> 02:44:31,050
clip. It was it was two minutes
of my life. I'll never

2657
02:44:31,470 --> 02:44:33,480
You're right. I'm sorry. I
apologise.

2658
02:44:33,630 --> 02:44:38,280
She's a horrible person. I think
the point why was she even on

2659
02:44:38,280 --> 02:44:41,820
the show? That's my Toyne expert
in it. I know. But you didn't

2660
02:44:41,820 --> 02:44:43,650
have to let her talk.

2661
02:44:44,040 --> 02:44:47,580
She was funny. I like what she
said about this little itty

2662
02:44:47,580 --> 02:44:50,250
bitty this little thing about
weapons of mass destruction. It

2663
02:44:50,250 --> 02:44:53,220
was killed a million Iraqis.
It's no big deal.

2664
02:44:54,300 --> 02:44:59,910
Well, that was amusing, but I
think you're punchy. I'm punchy.

2665
02:45:00,540 --> 02:45:04,410
Yeah, it's late in the day. You
didn't get a nap today and

2666
02:45:04,410 --> 02:45:08,010
you're just thinking you think
this ad it's hilarious, when in

2667
02:45:08,010 --> 02:45:09,660
fact she's just an idiot.

2668
02:45:09,690 --> 02:45:11,820
Well then I'll let you take us
home big boy.

2669
02:45:13,559 --> 02:45:15,179
Well, I want to thank everybody
for listening.

2670
02:45:15,839 --> 02:45:19,169
You got to have one clip to take
us home. Oh, I

2671
02:45:19,170 --> 02:45:24,060
got Well I do have a Rubio clip
which cracks me up. I have Torah

2672
02:45:24,540 --> 02:45:26,040
torture, but that's no fun.

2673
02:45:26,460 --> 02:45:28,740
Well, let's see if you can
tolerate it. Let's even top my

2674
02:45:28,770 --> 02:45:33,510
my girl from Slate. Come on. Me
the baddest. No, no, no, make it

2675
02:45:33,510 --> 02:45:35,310
better. Okay,

2676
02:45:35,759 --> 02:45:39,509
let's put in oh, let's play the
actually let's play. Let's play

2677
02:45:39,509 --> 02:45:43,439
the student loan crisis clip.
No, it's too long. No, I got

2678
02:45:43,439 --> 02:45:49,349
nothing. Brah Hey, Brahimi. This
guy they the guy used to be the

2679
02:45:49,349 --> 02:45:52,589
go between between the UN and
Syria. Yeah, play him

2680
02:45:52,619 --> 02:45:54,899
presidential elections for June,
Canada.

2681
02:45:55,980 --> 02:46:00,660
But the question is, how many
more that how much more

2682
02:46:00,660 --> 02:46:05,430
distraction that is going to be
before Syria becomes again the

2683
02:46:05,430 --> 02:46:08,940
Syria we have known the new
Syria that will be different

2684
02:46:08,940 --> 02:46:13,680
from the theory of the past.
That it will be the Syria we

2685
02:46:13,680 --> 02:46:18,480
have loved and admired for many,
many years for him his

2686
02:46:18,480 --> 02:46:19,110
resignation.

2687
02:46:20,340 --> 02:46:24,450
Wait a minute, the Syria that
we've loved and admired

2688
02:46:24,480 --> 02:46:30,120
yesterday. We've known Uriah was
always a steady terrorist.

2689
02:46:30,120 --> 02:46:35,670
Hello. We had one of the worst
countries ever. We had recorded

2690
02:46:35,670 --> 02:46:38,040
this UN guy that we'd known and
loved.

2691
02:46:38,430 --> 02:46:43,020
We put the chars wife in Vogue
magazine. Everybody was hanging

2692
02:46:43,020 --> 02:46:46,620
out with Brad Pitt and Angelina
Jolie, we're driving around

2693
02:46:46,800 --> 02:46:51,990
Damascus having lunch? Oh, how
quickly we forget.

2694
02:46:52,380 --> 02:46:54,990
This is the country that
probably brought down that Pan

2695
02:46:54,990 --> 02:46:55,710
Am flight.

2696
02:46:56,460 --> 02:47:00,180
No, that was a CIA drug running
operation was different.

2697
02:47:00,780 --> 02:47:02,910
I'm sure it was involved
somehow. But they're the ones

2698
02:47:02,910 --> 02:47:04,770
who buy things they bought.
They're the ones that were

2699
02:47:04,770 --> 02:47:08,310
responsible for a whole crapload
of terrorists things that they

2700
02:47:08,310 --> 02:47:10,320
used to use too. Well,

2701
02:47:10,770 --> 02:47:12,390
does that mean you don't have to
love them?

2702
02:47:13,650 --> 02:47:18,210
No, it says it was a country we
all known and loved. And we

2703
02:47:18,210 --> 02:47:18,510
heard

2704
02:47:20,910 --> 02:47:24,810
John, when are you? When are you
flying home? Tomorrow? Okay. Oh,

2705
02:47:24,810 --> 02:47:28,170
so you're done for tonight? You
don't have to do any. You have

2706
02:47:28,170 --> 02:47:32,910
to do anything. I got another
meet up. Alright. But but no. No

2707
02:47:32,910 --> 02:47:37,530
speaking gibberish. Cool. All
right. Well, we fly home

2708
02:47:37,530 --> 02:47:40,680
tomorrow. It'd be a long flight.
We leave tomorrow. We fly home

2709
02:47:40,680 --> 02:47:44,490
yesterday and we arrived
yesterday. And looking forward

2710
02:47:44,490 --> 02:47:48,420
to the show on Sunday. And thank
you all for putting up with my

2711
02:47:48,420 --> 02:47:53,010
punchiness here. Of course it is
3:20am in the what.

2712
02:47:53,130 --> 02:47:56,610
Yeah. Okay, go on. Yes. 3:20am
Think about it. It

2713
02:47:56,610 --> 02:48:02,610
happens it happens. All right,
coming to you from the Hot

2714
02:48:02,610 --> 02:48:06,870
Pockets wasabi tour love hotel,
here in Tokyo in the morning,

2715
02:48:06,870 --> 02:48:08,040
everybody. I'm Adam curry.

2716
02:48:08,820 --> 02:48:12,270
And coming from a Marriott
someplace in Michigan. I'm John

2717
02:48:12,270 --> 02:48:12,960
C. Dvorak

2718
02:48:12,960 --> 02:48:22,080
and we will be back on Sunday
right here on no agenda that's

2719
02:48:22,080 --> 02:48:29,910
one hot rolls baby. Joe Biden
and thank you for taking the

2720
02:48:29,910 --> 02:48:34,830
time to listen to vorak.org/n A