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I'm going to put on the top of
the Kremlin. This is the voice

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of Russia. Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak

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and Sunday May 18 2014. It's
time for your Gitmo nation media

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assassination episode 618. This
is no agenda still coming to you

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from the future here in the hot
pocket. Wasabi tour love hotel

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in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry

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and stepping all over him
because I have to because of the

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latency. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Raglan Buzzkill.

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Wow, nailed it. It was so tight.
You couldn't you could not fit a

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needle in between us.

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Even though there's a tonne of
late I started talking on the

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word curry. Yeah, I'm, as soon
as you said that.

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Yeah. And then And what's really
interesting is, is we can we can

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do a half hour pre show getting
ready and the minute we start,

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then it ends the whole Skype
connection falls apart. Yeah.

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It's really unbelievable. It's
it's almost it's almost unfair.

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What? Ah, that's okay. Try
again. Just keep going. It seems

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Hey, I

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just got an internet connection.
Problem error.

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Okay, so I thought so I thought,
I'm looking. I've got Skype on

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Skype. Yeah. But it's got to be
you. Why? Because, you know, I'm

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in Japan, where everything is
awesome.

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Man. Oh, yes. Right. You're on
just ridiculous high bandwidth

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they have over there in Asia.
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Well, I'm looking at the ping
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it's just I don't know. You're
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Yeah, yeah. I got one. Wow, that
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That will maybe later. Anyway,
it is. What is it? 19 minutes

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past midnight here in in Tokyo.
And it is episode 618 of the

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best podcast in the universe
trying our best to keep it all

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together. And you are the it's
our Yeah, you're

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in the morning. Yeah. Which is
fine. It's not that late, but I

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usually do the pre show in the
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morning. And so I had to get up
earlier. Okay, but in a better

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mood than it was last time.

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Oh, you know, it's funny. Some
people commented on your mood.

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Yeah, they

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said I was in a bad mood. Yeah,
it was because I was stuck with

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this latency. I'm talking away.
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you throw it to me and then
there's an hour lag. And I say

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what yaxham More?

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You know what? Let's try
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Do you think that's gonna help?
I don't

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know. John. It says this is
pretty pathetic.

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Okay, it's worth it.

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Yeah, I can decide Actually
Actually, I can almost do it on

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the fly. So we can keep talking.
Yeah, no, seriously, I can go to

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the network connection sharing
centre, just turn off this

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network. Okay.

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And you think the Skype
connection will just keep

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working?

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You know, Stranger things have
happened.

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Okay, well, I'm marking the time
down for to edit this out in

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case it becomes

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divorced. Of course, I gotta
figure out because every one of

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these computers I have had the
different you know, they why

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does it windows just stay with
the same you know, basic

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interfaces. It's just beyond me.
Okay, here we go. This gets shut

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off. Disabled when disabling.

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Okay, disabling as we speak. I'm
looking at his connection. He

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still seems to be there. It's
kind of interesting, too. Play

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with this. Okay. You've
disabled? Are you still there?

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All right, marking the time
down. It was really weird. Just

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before we started

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dating i Yeah. 20. Your back.
And I didn't do anything. Yeah.

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Well, it did reconnect.

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Yeah, well, okay. But I didn't.

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I'm telling I'm telling you,
interestingly enough. And this

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is, this is internet type stuff.
You might think that Sonic net,

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which you normally on may just
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routes to to Japan that Comcast
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Comcast might be more Japanese
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And you have to say, you've
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Well, there you have it. I'll
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always complaining.

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Oh, don't worry. I'm sure
something will screw up

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eventually. This

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is the reason that you need
multiple connections. I was

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listening to the FCC hearings.
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said well, and you get this and
it's like a it's a it's a

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monopoly of the head some weird
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Did you did you get clips
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your in your newsletter update.
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one clip of this long winded. I
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why the Democrats had voted yes
on the Wheeler. proposal and the

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Republicans voted no. And there
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women are the Democrats and the
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the women are these unbelievably
long winded boards. Yeah. Blast

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they got talk. And in fact, you
wanted this. We want to get this

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out of the way. Let's play the
one woman. The black one is

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whose first name is mignon, as
fillet mignon. Which is seems

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odd, but it's what her name is,
right? You just start playing

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this and you hear it. She's
coming up with all the reasons

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that the government should be
involved. The government has to

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be involved because we're all
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government doesn't do something.
So we need the government, the

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government, the government in
the internet. And here she is

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rationalising and she's throwing
cliche, she's sentence structure

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is crazy. She says stuff that
makes no sense if you listen to

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it, but just play away. And then
you can stop it when you feel

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like it's not a company, not the
government determined winners

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and losers. It is a free market.
And yeah, I'm done. I'm just

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kidding. I'm just kidding.

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You shouldn't be kidding.

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Yes. All of this, however, does
not know Will it ever occur

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organically. Without rules
governing a free and open

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Internet? It is possible that
companies fixed and wireless

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broadcast broadband providers
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whether they want to
discriminate or block content,

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pick favourites, charge higher
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been listening to concerns not
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1000s of consumers. And

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by the way, I am been listening
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the when when people say my
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technology. Like my mother can't
figure out how to use that or

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it's so easy. My mother could
use it. Or what else you yes it

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does because it is misogynistic
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that is so condescending for
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my mother can use it.

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Okay, I gotta dive I'm not gonna
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right. And so many people do
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argument has been couched on
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a Hardee's startups that fear
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succeed.

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Okay. Okay, I have to we have to
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ups that fear that you'll be
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All right, so let me go from now
I'm going to play her a little

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bit more I have a few clips
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world. And as you know I'm very
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fast lanes, slow lane analogies.
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issue is startup so I'll be
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which is bullcrap. No one cares
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all? No, no, that's not true
Adam, because she was told by

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her constituents. Her
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have to listen more to this
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done with this part, you can
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the second part where she talks
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mother. And the second question,
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this I want to listen

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consumers is controlled by
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competitive level playing field
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competitive that makes good
against like corporations not

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controlled by a level
competitive. But how does the

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level competitive playing field
control anything? But anyway, go

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on to say

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they will be reticent to commit
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they are concerned that their
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reach consumers in the
marketplace. Because of high

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costs or differential treatment.
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this is the Obama bot. reasoning
about net neutrality. It used to

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be well, you know, the, there
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protocols and different systems.
And now it's all about the new

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startup. But when you really
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take a slight detour here, John,
to MSNBC, with this woman from

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recode recode is the outfit that
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Swisher. And

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yeah, it used to be Mossberg
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whatever, All Things

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D. Here is a woman from recode.
And she's really telling you

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what the issue is

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when they talk about Fast Lane.
It's not like a fast lane that

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you would home and buy, because
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service that she want. This
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that a an Amazon or Google or
Facebook or Netflix could buy to

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get traffic to your house
faster. And the reason that

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people are upset about this
because not all companies have

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enough money to sort of pay for
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And so if this went into effect,
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wouldn't necessarily be able to
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extra two Old to get to your
house faster. So meaning bit

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like Netflix could in theory be
more expensive. But the next

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Netflix The next thing you're
gonna binge watch all your

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favourite shows on couldn't even
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just can't pay for the faster
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Okay, exactly. Now, I'm going to
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going to build upon something
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week, actually you on Twitter,
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globe. When it comes to droning
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universally, when it comes to
screwing the public, no one

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cares killing American citizens
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you're gonna make my Netflix
buffer, right? I can't have a

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new Netflix, but I can binge
watch on protest. And that is

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the pathetic nature of what is
going on here. That is so

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pathetic. The binge

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watching thing. Yeah, it's so
important that we can binge

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watch. Like it. Yeah, the way
there was no such thing as busy

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binge watching a decade ago.

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And this truly is the only thing
people are talking about is the

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new Netflix. The new Netflix,

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I want more Outland more,

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I want more Hollywood content.
This is this.

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Yeah, so you're right. This is
actually very pathetic. It's an

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indictment of the mentality of
the people that are all upset.

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Let's go back to a minion. One.

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I'm gonna say something I gotta
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in a second, I'm going to give a
speech in Michigan that I fit

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I've kept been working on. And
it turns out, I don't know how

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many more public speech speeches
I'm going to be able to do, I'm

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gonna write

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it already. Sounds like this may
be one of the last ones

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depending on what you're going
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My conclusions I've been
developing a new speech are

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extremely depressing.

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And you want to do on a give us
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just that just because part of
what you said is because part of

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it is just like we have
regressed in the computer

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revolution began as a freedom
movement. It was a freedom and

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independence of the big
mainframes and and once the

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internet got involved, it pushed
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to the point where we're all
slaves now to this kind of

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thing. And this sort of
thinking, and our concerns are

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about binge watching. And we
don't give a crap about anything

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else.

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It's even worse, man, we had
dinner tonight with two Dutch

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guys, one who has in a very well
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agency here. And his friend who
sold an internet company in the

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Netherlands, a social network a
couple of years ago. And so he's

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kind of on a worldwide tour
going around and then this guy,

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you know, you've made some good,
good money, I presume. He's, you

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know, he's he goes to Bali. He's
going around China, he's hanging

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out in Japan. And, you know, he
was just the things he was

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saying, and this is a guy who
knows what's going on. He was

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like, Well, you know, you really
can't stop the you know, the

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information flow and you know,
people that you can't the

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privacy is overrated,

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elitism defeat is completely to
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can't do it about privacy.
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and it's bull crap, by the way,
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anyone who says that's a
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loser, and it goes

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and he was like, you know, what
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it's it's good that you know,
that people can track if you

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know, if you're a menace to
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you're a smoker then you're a
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wait a minute, are you the kind
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have a GPS tracker in your car
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yeah, it's unavoidable.
Obviously I'll have the champion

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said he would have the chip and
nice guy by the way, but brow he

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also you know, bomb and it was
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you know, Ray Kurzweil is Bill
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head was exploding.

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Every meme and cliche that we
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coming at you in stereo,

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and I'm trying to eat sushi at
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difficult. Yeah, let's back the
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meeting on Mignon

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educators, even where there is
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school feel that their students
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advantage of the best in digital
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is poor.

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Because your YouTube is
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happen the content will be poor.

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Oh, please, healthcare
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images they need to view will
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patients will be unable to
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technologies and specialised
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this is this is insane. This
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possible. Let me think what else
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guess what else is she going to
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able to get our milk ordered
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She doesn't go there a bit of
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made possible through remote
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from everyday people who said
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openness of the internet for
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enables today's discourse to be
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the ability to interact directly
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engage in robust exchanges, like
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fact, let me say how impressed I
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on May street earlier this week,
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North Carolina, New York,
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your own dime. To affirm just
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you. You made it clear that the
internet is a great equaliser in

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our society, and that average
consumers should have the same

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access to the internet as those
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dozens of examples across the
globe, where we have seen

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firsthand the dangers to society
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choose government blocking
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free speech in public discourse.
Countries like including some in

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Europe, where providers have
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Oh, excuse me, that happens
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rampant. And what she's calling
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literally will put in place, the
ability to block so called

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illegal content, whatever that
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I got an email just before the
show. And a lot of people are

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very happy with our stance and
trying to explain what is

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happening. Because if if your
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you know, mainstream media,

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G or the hysterical tech media,

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let me give you here's an
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know, the more people listen to
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it is an example of how dumb the
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public. I don't think the public
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down when you talk about this
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net neutrality. It's a wonky
techie term, you know, it's a

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wonky techie term, wonky
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around the interwebs,

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webs into ribs,

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or right about here and there a
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as a person who uses a computer
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anything with Wi Fi. You
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care, do you

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have Wi Fi? If you don't have Wi
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Well, you should. And we figured
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this week in Washington, now is
a good time to bring you up to

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speed Get it, get it? Out,
hopefully you will in a minute.

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For starters, the term net or
network neutrality is based on a

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principle that basic internet
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discriminatory. In short, that
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all internet traffic equally.
Back in January and appeals

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court struck down regulations
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Commission that were designed to
protect net neutrality. And that

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brings us to this week, an FCC
Chairman Tom Wheeler has

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proposed new rules to protect
the open internet, but with a

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very big caveat, a caveat that
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toll for those who can afford it
in a slower lane for those who

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can't. And that has some
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really fired up fired on
Thursday, protesters gathered

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outside as FCC board members
voted on and weighed in on these

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new proposed rules for the road
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internet.

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Alright, you are wrong. Now let
me just so this is this is an

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email that came in just before
the show. I've been listening to

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no agenda for quite some time
now. Although I disagree with

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some opinions you have
especially about global warming.

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I kept watching you and John, I
hope this person is actually not

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watching us because

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that I happen to be looking
around for the camera where

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I kept watching you and John
because you're funny and provide

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other more reasonable points of
view and ways of thinking. You

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say a lot of wrong stuff about
other topics too. But I have let

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them all slide because of the
same reasons because we're

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funny. I think you've crossed
the boundary in my head when you

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went on the attack against net
neutrality. Although you claim

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to have more knowledge on the
subject and the citizenry you

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clearly have no idea what you're
talking about. Now, I'm not

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going to do a sentence by
sentence dissection of your

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speech on net neutrality or
global warming, because that

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would be boring for me. boring
for you and plainly ineffective,

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since you just dismiss it. If
you don't know who the guy in

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the video you played is it's CGP
Grey. We plough Oh, who was

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that? I don't know. Oh, he's
very well loved on the internet.

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And I predict you'll get a lot
of backlash because of that.

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seems unlikely note, however,
that it's not the reason I'm

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turning you off. I'm not see GPS
bodyguard, although many people

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are gonna we're gonna get beat
up. John, I'm turning you off.

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Because I think that sometimes
you take a position about a

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subject, not because of what you
read and believe it because you

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just want to be against the
majority. Fun in Japan. Wow,

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he didn't say anything. He did
have fun in Japan creep raising?

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No, it was kind of like a last
line. Yeah, have fun in Japan.

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And I'm gone. I'm out. I'm
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Yeah, well, he's not much of a
listener, because if he was, he

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would have heard that that
letter you before the rant that

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you just recently gave you read
that letter from the sysop guy

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who explained the problem with
the packet equal packets. And in

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fact, that was watching another
thing on C span, I don't have a

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clip of it. Because these guys
are a little long winded. But it

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was a group of high end the
guys, in one of the smaller

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conference rooms discussing the
net neutrality issues and why

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it's Bogota, they were all
thinking the same way you were.

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And one of them to describe the
situations of all packets are

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equal, how do you deal with the
following situation, you have a

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congested network, which they
always get to be because of some

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people running videos, and you
are running a remote control

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surgery operation where a doctor
is in you know, New York, and

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he's operating on a on a remote.

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Okay, here's how it works. Hey,
I'm gonna watch Sharknado in

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high def, who cares about some
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And so the doctors working and
he needs real time connectivity

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through the internet, and he has
to have a high priority. And if

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it was, let's say a high end
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this sort of thing was
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future because there's not going
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be these remote control
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have to buy a really, you know,
they're gonna have to buy a

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straight pipe through the same
internets, because these are all

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privately owned pipes anyway,
very few public ones. And

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according to all these people,
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You can't do that. Because now
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prioritising packets. How does
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that's a very good argument. And
I bet a lot of people will would

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love to pressure their insurance
company to insure not insure but

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ensure that they actually have
high priority paid priority

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access if they're being operated
on. If you had that, if you had

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that option, would you say? Oh,
no, I want my packets for my

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open heart surgery to be equal
to Netflix.

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Yeah, and then they gave plenty
of examples like that. And it

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makes nothing but sense when you
think about it. This is a

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hysterical argument that we're
listening to. Everybody is

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freaky. There. They're not
thinking this through they are

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there. This is the way the
society is now working. It makes

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people like this. And I mean
when I was doing twit, I mean

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everyone's literally shaking
their shaking the so mad at you

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by the way, they're so mad at
you. I didn't even do well just

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just by angel. I said well, I
think this is adorable. Just by

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Pooh poohing it. Yeah. Just by
not jumping on board. Yes. Yeah.

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Yeah. That you are by definition
you are the enemy when you when

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you do stuff like that. You are
not Pooh poohing it. You are

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putting it you Putin it baby,
there's no good you poopoo Putin

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it?

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Let's finish off Mignon here.
And then I WANT TO PLAY CLIP two

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of her, which is a short one.
And it's poignant enough that we

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have to play it.

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The second question she pose was
can providers just do what they

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want? This is her her

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mom, right? Yeah, her mom, her
mom, Mama, and

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I'm sure her mom would say kindo
service providers, you know, the

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ISPs do whatever what they want.
You know, I was gonna ask that

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at all. Of course they did.

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The short answer is yes. As of
January, we have no rules to

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prevent discrimination or
blocking. This is actually a

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significant change because the
FCC has had policies in place,

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dating back to 2004. With the
commission and the former

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chairman and my good friend,
Michael Powell, unanimously

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adopted for possibles of an open
internet and the Internet policy

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statement.

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The Internet policy statement
was not enforceable is what

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she's talking about. Right. Oh,
and but

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I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. Sorry. That was it.

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Just I was pouring coffee and I
couldn't.

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I couldn't get up there because
she seemed she makes this

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comment. She always does this.
She says, The Internet Policy

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Statement, which were made,
we're going to enforce one of

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these days. And then she she
keeps bringing this this non

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enforcing thing up in a very
funny way as though it was going

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to be enforced or we should
enforce or maybe net net net

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neutrality meeting is about
enforcing it. Okay.

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The Commission under former
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Michael Powell. Alright, let's

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let's just do it again.

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Nana Miss Lee adopted four
principles of an open internet

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and the Internet policy
statement. These principles

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became the rules of the road
with the potential for

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enforcement.

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Right potential for enforcement.
And this is important to point

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out because people are being
taught now in a New Deal. There

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were rules that are being that
are being dismissed and broken

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and taken away, which they're
just we're

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not know there were suggestions.
Yes.

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Then in 2010, the Commission
formally adopted rules to

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promote an open Internet by
preventing blocking and

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unreasonable discrimination.
When the Commission approved

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these rules. I explained why I
noticed

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I noticed by the way, it's
unreasonable discrimination.

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This is where we're coming from,
which is it has been working

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pretty well, unreasonable
discrimination. And that will

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that will remain in

451
00:26:24,090 --> 00:26:27,570
place some things differently.
For instance, I would have

452
00:26:27,570 --> 00:26:30,810
applied the same rules to both
fixed and mobile broadband,

453
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,800
prohibited pay priority
agreements, limited any

454
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,090
exceptions to the rule, and I am
on record as preferring a

455
00:26:39,090 --> 00:26:43,650
different legal structure. The
2010 Rules reflect a compromise.

456
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:49,500
Yes, Mom, I do compromise at
times. In January of 2014. The

457
00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:54,090
DC circuit disagreed with our
legal framework. And here we

458
00:26:54,090 --> 00:26:55,590
are, again.

459
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,460
Yeah, this woman is a moron and
the main and not that she's

460
00:26:59,460 --> 00:27:02,970
actually a moron. But no, no,
she has no, she doesn't

461
00:27:02,970 --> 00:27:06,960
understand how this works. She's
just talking out of her butt.

462
00:27:07,980 --> 00:27:10,740
Paid pushes against paid
priority agreements that is

463
00:27:10,740 --> 00:27:14,100
called peering. Yeah. Where you
have the unbalanced you have an

464
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:16,470
unbalanced got one side with
that's delivering a lot of

465
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:18,030
stuff. And the other side is not
but

466
00:27:18,570 --> 00:27:22,230
it's also it's also known as
transit. It's, yeah, that's the

467
00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:26,610
technical term transit, you pay
for transit. And then you and

468
00:27:26,610 --> 00:27:29,910
that is because you have no
peering, and you need to get

469
00:27:29,910 --> 00:27:32,910
somewhere and you and you can't,
you can't get there for free,

470
00:27:32,910 --> 00:27:37,020
you have to pay for it. This is
these people have no idea how

471
00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:40,950
the internet works. interwebs
I'm sorry. They really have no

472
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:47,550
idea. And I and you're right the
the hysterical tech press who

473
00:27:47,550 --> 00:27:52,710
think that they that it's like
just one big round robin network

474
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:56,070
that is just everything's
flowing. And it's all free. And

475
00:27:56,220 --> 00:27:59,100
and it's all equal up and down.
No one ever talks about that

476
00:27:59,100 --> 00:27:59,670
anymore. By

477
00:27:59,670 --> 00:28:03,390
Well, I want to point out
something talking about peering

478
00:28:03,390 --> 00:28:05,850
and these agreements, all the
rest of it, we changed the

479
00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:10,500
connection on this show today in
real time, from one connection

480
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:14,910
to did not have good peering to
Japan, which ran over AT and T I

481
00:28:14,910 --> 00:28:18,270
might add, which would make
sense because the Japanese are,

482
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:20,940
you know, centric with the
telephone system. And they

483
00:28:20,940 --> 00:28:24,330
probably don't like at&t, they
probably never got together and

484
00:28:24,540 --> 00:28:28,320
the cable company probably did.
So there's a different peering

485
00:28:28,350 --> 00:28:31,470
agreement with the case with
Comcast and there is how is that

486
00:28:31,650 --> 00:28:34,290
equal packets? How can it ever
be equal packets,

487
00:28:34,290 --> 00:28:36,750
and in fact, overhead to make
equal pay?

488
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,600
As a cost is outrageous, as

489
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,980
it cuts out? didn't cut out just
for a second? No, but it is it

490
00:28:43,980 --> 00:28:47,250
is without I'm not going to get
better. I'm not going to edit

491
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:50,160
the beginning of the show. So
people can actually hear that

492
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,240
how horrible it was, you switch
to a different network. And if I

493
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,400
have, you know, if we had the
time we consider we could do

494
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,810
trace routing, and you could see
it's probably far fewer hops to

495
00:29:00,810 --> 00:29:06,600
get from here to there. And and
in fact, it's paid priority you

496
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:12,210
pay you pay a certain amount for
this particular connection. But

497
00:29:12,210 --> 00:29:17,430
people don't they they've taken
it so for granted. And you and I

498
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:21,090
know how this works, you know
when well, people who are the

499
00:29:21,090 --> 00:29:24,060
designated tech technologist in
the family I don't know if

500
00:29:24,060 --> 00:29:26,610
that's yours that buzzkill Jr.
May be who's the who's the

501
00:29:26,610 --> 00:29:29,430
designated techie in the family
that gets the call?

502
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,770
We all get calls. Eric, probably
more than anyone. So be here

503
00:29:34,770 --> 00:29:37,830
that he's the he's the wires guy
here.

504
00:29:37,860 --> 00:29:42,300
Here's like the internet doesn't
work. And you're yet to say

505
00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:44,460
well, what do you mean the
internet doesn't work? Well, I'm

506
00:29:44,460 --> 00:29:45,510
trying to get to Facebook.

507
00:29:46,050 --> 00:29:48,750
Oh, yeah, that would be meat in
this house. Right. And by the

508
00:29:48,750 --> 00:29:51,630
way, but did they never say that
everyone knows the internet's

509
00:29:51,630 --> 00:29:53,130
down, down?

510
00:29:53,670 --> 00:29:57,330
Router. But I have I have an
agreement with my wife the

511
00:29:57,330 --> 00:30:02,190
Darling Miss Mickey. You Because
I don't mind being the guy, you

512
00:30:02,190 --> 00:30:06,180
know when something's wrong, but
I said, Look, if you want tech

513
00:30:06,180 --> 00:30:09,420
support, I'm going to teach you
and let this be a lesson for

514
00:30:09,420 --> 00:30:14,520
everybody who deals with tech
support. Now, actually, I'm

515
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,270
going to be very, I'm going to
be very misogynistic for a

516
00:30:18,270 --> 00:30:22,080
moment. If you're a woman, and
you're asking for tech support

517
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,760
from a man sets it up a little
bit, we respond well to that.

518
00:30:28,140 --> 00:30:29,670
And Mickey does this. Now she
says,

519
00:30:30,090 --> 00:30:34,320
she will be all kinds of
humorous situations she

520
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:40,560
does, because she comes in, hey,
tech support. I pull off or top

521
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,580
or any sometimes

522
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,430
that's a way to get results.

523
00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:47,880
You better believe it gets
results. And if you're, if

524
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,940
you're a dude, you can get
there's other ways to do it up,

525
00:30:50,970 --> 00:30:53,700
you know, then and you'll get
results. But you have to treat

526
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,000
technologists who are going to
help you with some respect.

527
00:30:59,490 --> 00:31:00,450
And a little sacks.

528
00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:05,940
How you got off on that bit?
I'll be

529
00:31:08,010 --> 00:31:11,970
interesting. It's true. People
don't people don't respect their

530
00:31:11,970 --> 00:31:16,350
technology help desk. They don't
know they don't they do not

531
00:31:16,350 --> 00:31:19,110
respect them. Because it's like
your car. You know, when your

532
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:24,810
car breaks on a day, take it to
Joe. Hey, Joe, fix my car. And

533
00:31:24,810 --> 00:31:28,890
this stuff is barely working.
It's barely working. And then

534
00:31:28,890 --> 00:31:31,620
it's like you're at the end of
the day. It's like Facebook. You

535
00:31:31,620 --> 00:31:34,980
know, Facebook sucks sometimes,
where maybe you have to refresh

536
00:31:34,980 --> 00:31:41,640
your canvas, so many different
things. Anyway, there was

537
00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:45,270
disbanded, I'll let me reiterate
one thing, which is that this is

538
00:31:45,270 --> 00:31:49,500
a hopeless argument. Nobody you
get like, I think the letter you

539
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:55,980
got from that guy is classic. He
is all in on this net neutrality

540
00:31:56,010 --> 00:31:58,890
argument from this perspective.
And he's all in on global

541
00:31:58,890 --> 00:32:02,430
warming. Gee, what else is he
all in on? He's obviously

542
00:32:02,430 --> 00:32:05,520
listened to the show twice.
Yeah, didn't like anything he

543
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:10,110
thought maybe were funny once in
a while. And he bails out

544
00:32:10,110 --> 00:32:13,530
because he can't, he won't
listen, he won't listen. This is

545
00:32:13,530 --> 00:32:18,750
the problem that we had. I got a
letter from I read it last show

546
00:32:18,750 --> 00:32:21,000
or the show before from with
this family that had all the

547
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,680
names. And the person writing
the woman, she says you we tried

548
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,290
to hit our friends in the mouth,
and it doesn't work, we got to

549
00:32:28,290 --> 00:32:31,710
full families in on the show.
And we have iterated this a

550
00:32:31,710 --> 00:32:35,640
number of times, which is you
cannot convince people that are

551
00:32:35,670 --> 00:32:39,030
already ruined. They've ruined
themselves for whatever reason

552
00:32:39,030 --> 00:32:42,750
they lost causes. You have to
preach to the choir for our

553
00:32:42,750 --> 00:32:45,690
shows benefit to get our
audience bigger, we just need

554
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:49,140
more choir members, we're not
going to get some guy home. Oh

555
00:32:49,140 --> 00:32:52,200
my god, I've been wrong all
these years. My entire

556
00:32:52,290 --> 00:32:55,920
everything I thought it was true
is wrong. I can't live with

557
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,680
myself. Most people literally
can't live with themselves if

558
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,860
they realise something's crazy
things. Well, that we talk about

559
00:33:01,860 --> 00:33:04,950
routinely on this show, one of
our very open minded

560
00:33:05,820 --> 00:33:07,890
we'll talk about in a minute,
but we had a of course, we had

561
00:33:07,890 --> 00:33:11,910
no agenda meet up here in Tokyo.
And it's always nice when when

562
00:33:11,910 --> 00:33:15,000
you meet some of the producers
in person and they come with

563
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,180
some really personal stories,
such as you know, hey, you know,

564
00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:23,610
I got type one diabetes. And if
it weren't for the show, I'd be

565
00:33:23,610 --> 00:33:27,750
dead. If I did, if I didn't have
you know, if I didn't listen to

566
00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:31,800
you guys, and get some kind of
critical thinking about what is

567
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,950
the pharmaceutical industry
trying to do to me? And what do

568
00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:39,210
they want me to inject and take
and he said, Me, I have a better

569
00:33:39,210 --> 00:33:42,270
life because of it. Of course it
Hey, you did that yourself. But

570
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:46,470
it's the kind of thinking that
will save you and the people,

571
00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:49,950
you know, this is a giant
reality show. And a lot of

572
00:33:49,950 --> 00:33:53,520
people didn't get voted off. And
it's not going to be pretty.

573
00:33:54,420 --> 00:33:56,940
Except if you're listening you
have a good chance.

574
00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:03,030
The show is designed to actually
maintain a sort of thought

575
00:34:03,030 --> 00:34:08,190
process that is more open minded
and more liberal to be honest

576
00:34:08,190 --> 00:34:11,700
about it than any liberals.
That's for sure. The knee jerk

577
00:34:11,700 --> 00:34:15,390
says we used to call them Yeah.
And it's very healthy. It's very

578
00:34:15,390 --> 00:34:17,640
beneficial and you you but you
do have trouble you're not going

579
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,660
to get people that are all in on
the on the propaganda like your

580
00:34:21,660 --> 00:34:24,720
Dutch friend there that was at
the dinner. Yeah, that guy is so

581
00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:29,250
far gone. You could never get
him you could never reel him in

582
00:34:29,250 --> 00:34:32,640
in a million years is you might
as well just let them go. It's

583
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,850
like okay, you're on your own.
Yeah. It's kind of pathetic.

584
00:34:35,850 --> 00:34:36,090
Well, that's

585
00:34:36,090 --> 00:34:37,770
what I told him. I said, you're
on your own dude.

586
00:34:40,830 --> 00:34:44,760
Jennifer, you're gay. Good news.
There's one thing you must

587
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,410
remember no agenda and moanin
for a healthy balanced news

588
00:34:49,410 --> 00:34:51,930
diet. Try no agenda. show.com

589
00:34:52,980 --> 00:34:55,380
I just had one last clip on this
net neutrality thing and that

590
00:34:55,380 --> 00:34:58,800
was before the hearing started,
which I knew you were going to

591
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,340
have these clips because you
knew you had the newsletter, but

592
00:35:02,340 --> 00:35:07,980
I got this clip of a couple of
protesters who were removed

593
00:35:08,010 --> 00:35:12,540
forcibly and and I just want you
to listen to, I think it's two

594
00:35:12,540 --> 00:35:15,450
or three in a row. And then
we'll talk about that

595
00:35:15,479 --> 00:35:18,989
example of the lack of
legitimacy of our democracy. And

596
00:35:19,019 --> 00:35:22,019
we want to make sure that people
understand the context of this

597
00:35:22,349 --> 00:35:25,079
is that we have an illegitimate
democracy and we didn't have the

598
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:28,439
people rolling. It's obviously
internet's a common carrier that

599
00:35:28,439 --> 00:35:31,319
brings us all equally to the
net. But we can all go out

600
00:35:31,319 --> 00:35:34,559
without any prejudice or bias,
or any kind of any kind of

601
00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:36,689
discrimination. We don't want to
get in.

602
00:35:37,049 --> 00:35:40,169
So this guy is talking about
it's obvious the Internet is a

603
00:35:40,169 --> 00:35:43,259
common carrier and we don't have
a democracy without it.

604
00:35:43,650 --> 00:35:46,920
FCC do its job and regulate the
internet for the people

605
00:35:47,129 --> 00:35:50,519
and regulate the internet for
the people. Does he hear what's

606
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:53,609
coming out of his mouth
regulated for the people

607
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:56,579
regulated for the corporations
not for the corporations

608
00:35:56,729 --> 00:36:00,089
regulated regulated the fact
that he wants it regulated by

609
00:36:00,089 --> 00:36:01,649
the government please
government?

610
00:36:11,970 --> 00:36:14,280
What does that woman say in the
background looks like free

611
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,630
internet, or somebody should

612
00:36:15,630 --> 00:36:16,560
fuck the internet

613
00:36:21,390 --> 00:36:24,360
Yeah, I think she did. It. I
don't know what I get her out

614
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:31,950
to. And that's he's gone. Ah,
there we go. Popular

615
00:36:31,950 --> 00:36:38,220
resistance.org Hey, I like that.
I'll be right back to that.

616
00:36:38,820 --> 00:36:41,430
Century. The internet is our
free speech. But in this

617
00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:44,760
country, we're losing our rights
to free speech. The internet was

618
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:53,970
the public Commons. All right,
so popular resistance the

619
00:36:53,970 --> 00:36:57,090
internet was created with our
dollars. This is a very

620
00:36:57,090 --> 00:37:01,470
interesting outfit, popular
resistance.org. But I'm just

621
00:37:01,470 --> 00:37:04,410
looking at their homepage.
Warren peace in Korea and

622
00:37:04,410 --> 00:37:07,830
Vietnam net neutrality. So now
what about administration

623
00:37:07,830 --> 00:37:12,180
resists effort to save videos of
Guantanamo? Edna, it's like, Who

624
00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:17,580
are these people? And you, you
go to About Us, which I always

625
00:37:17,580 --> 00:37:20,970
do. And then as our mission,
with the corporate takeover of

626
00:37:20,970 --> 00:37:23,070
federal and state governments,
more people are becoming

627
00:37:23,070 --> 00:37:27,240
politically active in new and
creative ways. A growing culture

628
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:30,240
of resistance is utilising
nonviolent direct action civil

629
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:33,780
disobedience as a primary
tactic. Oh, this sounds good.

630
00:37:34,050 --> 00:37:38,310
And then it's like, oh, from
Veterans for Peace to Occupy

631
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:44,490
Wall Street to tar sands block
aid. Okay. And then, you know,

632
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:48,900
you look at who is our
contributors, and there's no, no

633
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:50,730
corporations, no, nothing there.

634
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:56,940
My a Jacob balkwill. Who's the
editor of the love news, luv?

635
00:37:56,970 --> 00:38:00,030
Well, here's so here's how it's
a communications worker guy.

636
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,540
Well, here's how I figured out
you go to donate. And then it

637
00:38:03,540 --> 00:38:06,390
says, Please make a tax
deductible donation online

638
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:10,950
through our fiscal sponsor, the
Alliance for global justice.

639
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:12,480
Ah,

640
00:38:12,750 --> 00:38:17,610
okay. So you go to the Alliance
for global justice. And that's a

641
00:38:17,610 --> 00:38:22,320
nice outfit. They do about?
Well, they haven't filed the

642
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,090
2013 numbers yet. But 2012, they
did a nice three and a half

643
00:38:27,090 --> 00:38:32,490
million dollars in donations.
And their goal is to achieve

644
00:38:32,490 --> 00:38:35,220
social change and economic
justice by helping to build a

645
00:38:35,220 --> 00:38:40,770
stronger, more unified
grassroots movement. And the

646
00:38:40,770 --> 00:38:45,720
donors are interesting,
actually, the the donors are

647
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:48,120
listed in this form 990, which
is

648
00:38:48,420 --> 00:38:51,210
not typical. And that's nice.
Yeah.

649
00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:56,220
And I'm gonna scrolling down to
it here, Community Foundation,

650
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,380
fidelity charitable gift fund,
fire doll foundation is all D,

651
00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:05,100
this is how it works. This is
this is the path that you have

652
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:09,450
to follow. And you have to go
back to these are all

653
00:39:09,450 --> 00:39:12,420
nonprofits. And so the
nonprofits give to the nonprofit

654
00:39:12,420 --> 00:39:17,670
that gives the nonprofits the
bright water fund. Seriously.

655
00:39:18,450 --> 00:39:22,020
Yeah, no, they're all fronts.
For Soros. Yes.

656
00:39:22,050 --> 00:39:28,500
In general. Yes, exactly. And
these are not grassroot roots,

657
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:33,660
movements. These are people who
are paid in a nonprofit way. Now

658
00:39:33,660 --> 00:39:37,290
of course, they do pay they have
tape payroll taxes, but it's it

659
00:39:37,290 --> 00:39:41,310
is unbelievable, the level of
this three or four levels deep

660
00:39:41,310 --> 00:39:46,230
of these nonprofits, and they
act like they're some kind of

661
00:39:46,260 --> 00:39:50,610
grassroots movement but they're
not these people are paid to do

662
00:39:50,610 --> 00:39:50,970
this.

663
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,350
keep the internet safe.

664
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,260
Well, that Hellcat that
screaming in the background is

665
00:40:04,260 --> 00:40:08,070
worth all whatever they pay are
exactly what you want. Yeah.

666
00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:10,410
Thanks army

667
00:40:10,410 --> 00:40:14,400
for five years ago, and I had to
bring up this. This outfit, by

668
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:20,400
the way used to be the Nicaragua
foundation. So they like those

669
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,540
back Oh yeah. Oh yeah, this goes
way back. Yeah. So

670
00:40:24,990 --> 00:40:27,450
business what do you do you got
to make some money somehow.

671
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,520
Alright so just to read it to
reiterate, and it kind of flows

672
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,570
right into this email I received
from Chris. Hey Jen, good

673
00:40:36,570 --> 00:40:38,730
morning thanks for your courage
I just wrapped up listen to

674
00:40:38,730 --> 00:40:42,450
episode 617. I found the packet
inequality clips very

675
00:40:42,450 --> 00:40:45,570
interesting. The pricing model
that calm the Comcast exec was

676
00:40:45,570 --> 00:40:47,520
talking about is already
happening with my cable

677
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,380
provider. We use suddenlink for
data only and not cable six

678
00:40:52,380 --> 00:40:55,290
months ago suddenlink moved to
the pricing model have a total

679
00:40:55,290 --> 00:40:58,350
data cap for the month based on
the speed you pay for and

680
00:40:58,350 --> 00:41:01,920
charging $10 for each 50
gigabytes you go over, we pay

681
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,490
$70 a month for 30 up and five
down. That's probably he

682
00:41:05,490 --> 00:41:09,630
probably means 3030 Down to five
up. We are Are we I mean we are

683
00:41:09,630 --> 00:41:13,920
an all Netflix house. So we hit
the data cap quickly. To avoid

684
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,730
overages. I had to set my net
Netflix account back to that

685
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:22,380
different streaming quality. Now
we never come close to our 250

686
00:41:22,380 --> 00:41:25,260
gigabyte cap even with the
streaming to for TVs and for

687
00:41:25,260 --> 00:41:28,260
mobile devices. Just thought
you'd like to know this pricing

688
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,260
is plan is already in play.
Thanks for your hard work and

689
00:41:31,260 --> 00:41:34,440
for watching spend so I don't
have to. And this is this and

690
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:39,180
that, by the way is fair. That
is that is a fair way for it to

691
00:41:39,180 --> 00:41:43,110
work. You've he's streaming he
was streaming HD to four

692
00:41:43,110 --> 00:41:48,330
different devices, maybe all at
the same time sometimes, and

693
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,710
you're saturating a portion of
the network, which may have to

694
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:55,950
be upgraded or it's just not
it's not free. People think this

695
00:41:55,950 --> 00:41:58,620
is this is free like it's air.
Well

696
00:41:58,620 --> 00:42:00,570
here's the other thing is here's
some now I'm going to tell you

697
00:42:00,570 --> 00:42:01,830
what's going to happen and then

698
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,070
we're gonna get torn, tarred and
feathered is what's going on.

699
00:42:05,610 --> 00:42:09,870
Nobody they gave him no, we just
marginalise those two assholes.

700
00:42:09,870 --> 00:42:12,120
They're always like, the guy
says you're just disagreeing to

701
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,720
disagree. Yeah, okay, fine. All
right, here's the deal is gonna

702
00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:17,970
happen, you got this, they're
gonna put these caps up, because

703
00:42:17,970 --> 00:42:20,700
they're gonna, that's what they
really want to do. And they

704
00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:24,030
don't. Netflix, of course, wants
a free ride on the whole thing.

705
00:42:24,030 --> 00:42:26,610
So they can just hog all the
bandwidth. And if you think that

706
00:42:26,610 --> 00:42:30,240
right now they're using a third
of the all US bandwidth after

707
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:33,330
set to 5pm something like that
is very high when people started

708
00:42:33,330 --> 00:42:38,670
using it a lot. This is nothing
multiply that 1/3 times 4x.

709
00:42:38,670 --> 00:42:43,440
Because when we get to 4k
streaming, yeah, which fully are

710
00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:47,580
our to do Archduke is into that
is going to just bring the net

711
00:42:47,580 --> 00:42:49,740
to do it's going to bring it to
its knees.

712
00:42:49,740 --> 00:42:53,160
And that's when you'll be happy
to pay for priority. You'll be

713
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,880
happy. It'll be an experience.
It will be fantastic. You will

714
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,810
pay a little extra for it.
Sorry, the days of $8 Netflix

715
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:06,360
are over. But it's fair. That's
that's the that's the thing that

716
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:13,470
makes me just no no, no, forget
about you, right? We're just

717
00:43:13,470 --> 00:43:16,110
gonna be marginalised. Let's
move on because it's it's the

718
00:43:16,110 --> 00:43:19,950
people who are in our in the
people who are out. They are

719
00:43:19,950 --> 00:43:23,610
they're gonna lead our point
enough. Hey, so we were here in

720
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:33,510
we're here in Tokyo. And on what
was it now Friday night. Sir

721
00:43:33,510 --> 00:43:38,070
market day mastered through a
huge party. It's kind of so they

722
00:43:38,070 --> 00:43:42,120
have this, this. They have their
their business. And then on the

723
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,620
side, they have something called
Super Deluxe, which is pretty

724
00:43:46,620 --> 00:43:52,710
much a big contribution to the
art scene in Tokyo. And they do

725
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:57,720
25 events a month. And they you
know, they're basically adding

726
00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:04,260
money to it. And they threw a
5050 party. It was a party for

727
00:44:04,290 --> 00:44:05,970
two gents who are going to 25

728
00:44:05,970 --> 00:44:09,780
events a month. That's not
right. Yes. 25 look at the

729
00:44:09,780 --> 00:44:15,450
calendar 25 events a month. Yes.
That's the whole month. Yes.

730
00:44:16,140 --> 00:44:18,960
Yes. They thought they had work
to do.

731
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,910
But they do but you know this
they have staff running this

732
00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:29,280
place. And it's really it's just
a it's an it's a crazy art place

733
00:44:29,460 --> 00:44:32,880
that sometimes it's dancing
sometimes it's performance art,

734
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,570
they have extra expos all kinds
of stuff. And they and they

735
00:44:36,570 --> 00:44:39,240
understand our value for value
model so well because they have

736
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:43,380
to go out and get get people to
pay for it. Because and of

737
00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:47,490
course they you know they're
they have a vow of poverty on

738
00:44:47,490 --> 00:44:53,310
that project. So be it so they
threw a party for marks or mark

739
00:44:53,310 --> 00:45:00,540
and me. And at this party. There
were four There were two

740
00:45:00,540 --> 00:45:05,190
musicians very funny Morgan
Fisher, who used to play with

741
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:11,190
Mott the Hoople. He did have
everlasting love, you know, he's

742
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:17,100
an organist, keyboardist. And
he's, he's been in Tokyo for, I

743
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:21,570
don't know, 2025 years. And Sam
Bennett, another musician and

744
00:45:21,570 --> 00:45:24,690
these guys, they just, they just
sat down and played for like 45

745
00:45:24,690 --> 00:45:30,270
minutes, a whole bunch of hits
from our youth. And then there

746
00:45:30,270 --> 00:45:35,490
were pulled answers.
Interestingly enough with some

747
00:45:35,490 --> 00:45:39,120
audio provided by John C. Dvorak
calling Miss Mickey and Dame

748
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:47,790
Astrid, to the stage. Nice, nice
job, John. He then then there

749
00:45:47,790 --> 00:45:54,960
was a performance arts by Gugino
and I think booster Mark sent

750
00:45:54,990 --> 00:45:57,810
pictures sent you pictures, I
gotta put them on my on the blog

751
00:45:57,810 --> 00:46:01,050
or in the show notes or
something. So it's like two

752
00:46:01,050 --> 00:46:05,040
guys. And they have they were
they had a guitar with a blender

753
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,530
on it. And then he played the
other guitar, and then he was

754
00:46:07,530 --> 00:46:10,770
blending milkshakes. And then
he's crazy. I think it must have

755
00:46:10,770 --> 00:46:15,990
been illegal at least in 13
Prefect prefects in Japan. And

756
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:19,560
they had like his love arm,
which was just screaming and

757
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:24,420
lights and flashing and was I
think it was just insane.

758
00:46:25,290 --> 00:46:32,340
Followed by the 567 eights, the
three Japanese girls who were in

759
00:46:32,340 --> 00:46:37,890
Kill Bill. They do the kind of
the the beach, the surf sound.

760
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:42,360
And then, and of course, a DJ
Toretto got on the wheels of

761
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,230
steel, and played us into the
night. And the only thing that

762
00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:49,980
was missing was you, John, I was
there in spirit and spirit, but

763
00:46:49,980 --> 00:46:54,090
we missed you and we had a
lovely meet up at 10 or 12

764
00:46:54,090 --> 00:47:00,270
producers came from around Japan
actually. And what I think we

765
00:47:00,270 --> 00:47:03,750
should do is well, let me first
thank you for your courage and

766
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:09,090
say in the morning to you John C
Dvorak. Yeah. Well,

767
00:47:09,780 --> 00:47:13,320
let me think and by the way, I
want to mention that we're

768
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,230
trying to do a beat of of some
sort in Detroit so send me an

769
00:47:16,230 --> 00:47:19,560
email John at divorce that
Oregon subject line Detroit and

770
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,950
we'll make a mailing list I
should just take from the

771
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:26,760
mailing list but it's Canada
death. In the morning you Adam

772
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,190
curry in the morning all ships
at sea boots on the ground feet

773
00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:31,710
in the air subs in the water and
all the Dames and all the nights

774
00:47:31,710 --> 00:47:32,460
out there. And

775
00:47:32,460 --> 00:47:34,950
to our artists Thank you very
much 20 watt bulb for the

776
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:39,480
artwork of the Japanese wave,
which we rolled out for episode

777
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:44,550
617 I was highly appreciated in
the morning to everyone in the

778
00:47:44,550 --> 00:47:47,400
chat room. No agenda stream.com
no agenda chat dotnet Good to

779
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,450
see you all here. Let me kick
off with with our on the spot

780
00:47:51,450 --> 00:47:53,850
donations, John. If you don't
mind?

781
00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:55,440
Yes, yeah. them up.

782
00:47:56,069 --> 00:48:01,709
Okay. Let me see. Actually,
everybody handed us a beautiful

783
00:48:01,709 --> 00:48:06,389
note. And I didn't know this but
in Japan the it is tradition. If

784
00:48:06,389 --> 00:48:09,689
you're giving someone a card,
you have to get a really pretty

785
00:48:09,689 --> 00:48:10,919
envelope and it's all

786
00:48:11,549 --> 00:48:14,009
we're very familiar with this
tradition here in the divorce

787
00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:18,629
household where both Mimi and,
and J don't know how to wrap

788
00:48:18,629 --> 00:48:22,559
gifts Japanese style. Oh, Jimmy.
It's like ludicrous. But it's

789
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:22,919
pretty

790
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,060
it's pretty and I got to follow
on notes. So everyone wrote a

791
00:48:27,060 --> 00:48:29,550
little note on their on their
envelope, but this first one is

792
00:48:29,550 --> 00:48:40,980
from Brandon Baker, who donated
35,605 yen which he says as of

793
00:48:40,980 --> 00:48:47,610
May 16 is $350.50 so he will be
an executive producer today do

794
00:48:47,610 --> 00:48:50,310
John Adam in the morning he both
of this email arrives in time

795
00:48:50,310 --> 00:48:53,370
for episode 618 I would have
sent it earlier but the hangover

796
00:48:53,370 --> 00:48:56,580
I developed at the 5050 party in
Tokyo has finally subsided

797
00:48:56,580 --> 00:48:58,950
nearly 36 hours after I left the
party.

798
00:48:59,250 --> 00:49:00,240
Cheap Saki

799
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,730
no we were drinking something
else. It's the it's a clear it's

800
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,350
it's clear liquids. Oh

801
00:49:07,350 --> 00:49:13,320
that clear yam whiskey. Yeah.
Yeah. Do not drink that

802
00:49:13,350 --> 00:49:17,160
is great. Oh, yeah. It was great
to make my first donation to no

803
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,230
agenda directly to Adam in
person at the party. That

804
00:49:19,230 --> 00:49:23,310
donation was for $350.50. Three
because of the magic number and

805
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,090
5050 and celebration of adamance
or March birthdays. Speaking of

806
00:49:27,090 --> 00:49:31,530
Adam, he was nothing like I
expected he was extremely

807
00:49:31,530 --> 00:49:32,250
friendly.

808
00:49:32,490 --> 00:49:35,700
Yeah, after the cover those yam
was he's sincere and

809
00:49:35,700 --> 00:49:39,240
humble. I guess Vidya
assassination really gets his

810
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:41,910
blood boiling, I guess. I guess
I come across as a dick to him.

811
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:44,280
Anyway, it'd be it was a
pleasure spending a few minutes

812
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,670
talking with him and Miss Mickey
who is the bomb. And thank you,

813
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:49,920
Sir Mark and de Mastered for
hosting a great party. In

814
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,410
conclusion, I'd like to thank
you both your courage as well as

815
00:49:52,410 --> 00:49:56,070
for helping me to help me to see
through the illusion that is Big

816
00:49:56,070 --> 00:49:58,440
Pharma. Several years ago, I was
diagnosed with a chronic

817
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,620
illness. I was told I would
require a prescribed lifestyle

818
00:50:01,620 --> 00:50:04,710
and a lifetime of medication to
support it. However, it turns

819
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:07,230
out the lifestyle the doctors
recommend is really what makes

820
00:50:07,230 --> 00:50:10,800
those drugs necessary not the
illness. Thanks to the no agenda

821
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,230
show I had the insight and
scepticism required to get to

822
00:50:13,230 --> 00:50:15,120
the bottom of the things that
completely changed my life

823
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:20,190
around you guys are lifesavers
with not too much trouble May I

824
00:50:20,190 --> 00:50:21,180
please have a

825
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:24,540
get busted eventually by the
FDA. So good.

826
00:50:24,900 --> 00:50:29,370
May I have a take your meds
slave and douchebag combo for

827
00:50:29,370 --> 00:50:32,850
Big Pharma? A de douching for
myself and a karma for everybody

828
00:50:32,850 --> 00:50:37,590
out there that needs it? Gun but
they could decide gentlemen,

829
00:50:38,460 --> 00:50:43,470
Japanese for keep on fighting.
Let me see if where is the take

830
00:50:43,470 --> 00:50:48,660
the ones take your meds?
Douchebag and, dude, I'll do the

831
00:50:48,660 --> 00:50:51,780
deed douching I could do it all
in one go. I guess I'll do the

832
00:50:51,810 --> 00:50:54,510
douchebag first then make it
easy.

833
00:51:06,750 --> 00:51:17,130
You've been de Deus. You've got
karma. There we go. Next up, we

834
00:51:17,130 --> 00:51:28,320
have a second we have Dwayne
lively, who also sent an email

835
00:51:29,850 --> 00:51:32,460
in the morning great serves.
I've been a listener since

836
00:51:32,460 --> 00:51:35,880
around episode 100 or so. And
now I find I can't watch the

837
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,010
mainstream media for more than a
few minutes without getting a

838
00:51:38,010 --> 00:51:41,790
migraine in a bad case of the
shakes. I also can't see a news

839
00:51:41,790 --> 00:51:44,010
story about a foreign country
without searching the country's

840
00:51:44,010 --> 00:51:45,120
name and oil.

841
00:51:45,630 --> 00:51:48,150
Yeah, that's your best bet. In
the past, I've

842
00:51:48,150 --> 00:51:50,250
tried to help out the show by
contributing information on

843
00:51:50,250 --> 00:51:52,350
various issues, including the
post office financial

844
00:51:52,350 --> 00:51:54,900
difficulties, but if I had
decided it was time to cut off

845
00:51:54,900 --> 00:51:58,140
my Boehner so to speak, and help
you great service out of your

846
00:51:58,140 --> 00:52:01,770
financial difficulties. I hope
this donation of 33,000 yen

847
00:52:01,770 --> 00:52:05,760
helped some John since I paid in
cash make sure Adam credits the

848
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,360
entire amount and didn't just
say oh no, he only donated

849
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:17,730
20,000 to take me for wow, I was
impressed that. Yeah. It was

850
00:52:17,730 --> 00:52:22,320
great meeting Adam. Thanks for
the Yeah, it was. It was great.

851
00:52:22,350 --> 00:52:25,290
It was great meeting Adam and
the magnificent Miss Mickey the

852
00:52:25,290 --> 00:52:28,830
rest of the no agenda producers
were nice to although we were a

853
00:52:28,830 --> 00:52:33,360
bit scruffy compared to the rest
of the crowd. I hope to meet

854
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,360
John someday. I hope you in the
no agenda producers will check

855
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,590
out my daily blather at Duane
lively.com And my desperate I'm

856
00:52:40,620 --> 00:52:44,820
desperate. I and my desperately
in need of an update. Crazy

857
00:52:44,820 --> 00:52:48,840
japan.com I can use little karma
is not too much trouble. Thank

858
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,910
you for encouraging your hard
work. Dwayne. Thank you very

859
00:52:50,910 --> 00:52:54,420
much Dwayne for your support.
You're an executive producer dot

860
00:52:54,570 --> 00:53:03,120
karma. Then we have the next one
here. Now we'd have just cards.

861
00:53:03,780 --> 00:53:07,020
The Adam John, thank you for
your courage. This is from Sam

862
00:53:07,020 --> 00:53:10,710
from Tokyo. Please accept this
paltry donation as a token of

863
00:53:10,710 --> 00:53:13,440
gratitude for the many hours of
infotainment you've provided me

864
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,930
with its donation is long
overdue and I would like to

865
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,100
deduce myself if possible. Also,
transfer my douchebag status

866
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:25,500
over to my brother Steve Oh in
Cleveland. Little shout of con

867
00:53:25,500 --> 00:53:28,380
would be appreciated for family
and friends and a shout out to

868
00:53:28,410 --> 00:53:31,680
Mooney and Walker out in New
York. Keep up the good work guys

869
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,070
love the show. PS sorry for the
Christmas card. I was in a rush

870
00:53:35,070 --> 00:53:38,160
to go to the Tokyo party for
Adam and Sir Mark. And could

871
00:53:38,939 --> 00:53:41,879
I like to take these you take it
you a car used to be like a

872
00:53:41,879 --> 00:53:43,889
Christmas card from someone
else. That's even better. You

873
00:53:43,919 --> 00:53:47,159
cross out a Christmas you type
you write it in with a man and

874
00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:49,529
then you cross out their name
and sign it.

875
00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:57,150
And he gave us a check actually
for $111.11. US check. Then we

876
00:53:57,150 --> 00:54:06,450
have here's the next one. I want
to make sure I do this right

877
00:54:06,780 --> 00:54:07,200
now.

878
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,910
You know what it's like? Yeah,

879
00:54:08,910 --> 00:54:12,960
well, yeah, it sucks. Okay, now
this is a Graham Briggs in the

880
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,960
morning. Thanks for coming to
Japan and go at first I got to

881
00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:18,990
hand out some karma. I forgot
the karma that for our buddy.

882
00:54:19,380 --> 00:54:29,130
You've got karma. I have. Here's
Todd the lowly serve of Tokyo

883
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:35,490
with 21,000 yen. Thank you very
much. I'll hand you some karma

884
00:54:35,490 --> 00:54:41,190
for that. You've got karma
Graham Briggs in the morning.

885
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:46,080
Thanks for coming to Japan and
some karma for tahoka and my

886
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:56,040
wife Euro shiko 6000 yen and of
course karma for you guys. And

887
00:54:56,250 --> 00:55:01,590
you've got karma then finally
and this one was the really the

888
00:55:01,590 --> 00:55:07,650
beautifully wrapped card? And
this is from yes is a pretty

889
00:55:07,650 --> 00:55:10,590
funny note. If I can get through
all of it it's handwritten

890
00:55:10,590 --> 00:55:13,620
beautiful cursive. Do you Adam?
Hello it's Bill and JV from the

891
00:55:13,620 --> 00:55:18,090
BJ Consulting Group in Osaka,
Osaka. And they were wearing T

892
00:55:18,090 --> 00:55:21,480
shirts of which I have acquired
to one for you John in which the

893
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,230
t shirt say fuck Tokyo I heart
Osaka. Apparently there's some

894
00:55:25,230 --> 00:55:29,190
rivalry between the two. Oh
yeah, we are writing this on a

895
00:55:29,220 --> 00:55:35,070
shaky bullet train in. Can't
read it while drunk. That's why

896
00:55:35,070 --> 00:55:39,570
I can't read it. Here's an on
the spot. $100 donation and some

897
00:55:39,570 --> 00:55:44,100
goodies from our hometown Osaka
T shirts, and the no agenda

898
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:48,570
stickers. We had promised you
octopus balls. If you came to

899
00:55:48,570 --> 00:55:54,120
Osaka if we brought them on the
train, they would have been cold

900
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:58,080
and soggy by the time we reached
Tokyo. And that would have meant

901
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:03,300
soggy balls. They were very
drunk. as we as we are members.

902
00:56:03,870 --> 00:56:05,370
That's funny bill. Yeah.

903
00:56:06,330 --> 00:56:08,700
Hey, good. We're gonna call
ourselves the BJ Consulting

904
00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:12,660
Group. They were the ones that
turned me on to that yam wine.

905
00:56:14,370 --> 00:56:15,390
Kid as

906
00:56:15,540 --> 00:56:18,720
we are members of the 200 Club
we'd like to thank you and Miss

907
00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:22,980
Mickey for coming to visit Japan
to hold the Hot Pockets wasabi

908
00:56:22,980 --> 00:56:30,900
2009 tour. We'd love a live
granary While Don Raff and a

909
00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:34,650
Karma BJ Consulting Group
consists of Billund JV This is

910
00:56:34,650 --> 00:56:38,760
the only official no agenda
meeting in Osaka are they do

911
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,510
meetups themselves just two guys
having beer. That's the Osaka

912
00:56:42,510 --> 00:56:47,010
meetup. Bill is a sounds like it
yeah, Bill is a salaryman in big

913
00:56:47,010 --> 00:56:51,390
Japanese industrial company
where he takes care of global

914
00:56:51,390 --> 00:56:56,580
network of websites and domains.
JV is industrial designer who

915
00:56:56,580 --> 00:57:01,980
also works with development of
graphene and 3d printing. Ooh,

916
00:57:02,490 --> 00:57:05,820
what is graphing raise graphene?
Yeah, yeah. Wow,

917
00:57:05,850 --> 00:57:06,720
what is graphene?

918
00:57:07,020 --> 00:57:10,260
As the world has said this The
Super substance of the future my

919
00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:15,480
friend Oh, what can you do with
it? Everything nice isn't the

920
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,090
strongest it's just you should
look it up and read about it

921
00:57:18,090 --> 00:57:21,540
because it is an astonishing
product. They there's a little

922
00:57:21,570 --> 00:57:24,540
they you know, set the molecular
level of problem with it, isn't

923
00:57:24,540 --> 00:57:29,190
it? You know, they they're still
manufacturing of graphene is an

924
00:57:29,190 --> 00:57:32,550
issue and that will be solved
eventually.

925
00:57:32,610 --> 00:57:37,260
Okay, so for them grind green
rod Tao Robbie's I got all hyped

926
00:57:39,930 --> 00:57:47,670
up on that we'd have the memo.
Mr. Curry seems to be a John can

927
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:49,650
I speak with you for a minute?
Do you know Adam is beginning a

928
00:57:49,650 --> 00:57:53,370
little bit as Japanese things
like a little too? It's pretty

929
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,690
you know this the women in the
secretarial pool think he's a

930
00:57:57,690 --> 00:58:02,220
racist. Oh, yeah. Well, totally
well and put up Why are you

931
00:58:02,310 --> 00:58:08,670
laughing? Shut up. Who do? We do
have a few other executive

932
00:58:08,670 --> 00:58:11,820
producers to thank and let's
thank them including sir JD

933
00:58:11,820 --> 00:58:17,010
$333.33. A transpacific ITM to
you Adam and John LIFO greetings

934
00:58:17,010 --> 00:58:19,740
for producers sir JD in an
undisclosed location in the

935
00:58:19,740 --> 00:58:22,830
Central California coast where
several clans have met to launch

936
00:58:22,830 --> 00:58:26,040
a new couple into the universe.
I can hear the Pacific Ocean

937
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,890
crashing on the background why
compose this message as I wreck

938
00:58:29,070 --> 00:58:31,710
reflect on the celebrations of
the day and the sounds of the

939
00:58:31,710 --> 00:58:35,340
waves from Japan coming to the
California coast. I think of how

940
00:58:35,340 --> 00:58:39,390
we are all connected by oceans
there are ways and ideas we

941
00:58:39,390 --> 00:58:42,510
exchange and the time we spend
together please give a jobs jobs

942
00:58:42,510 --> 00:58:45,180
jobs little girl yay, commerce
shot celebration. Shout out to

943
00:58:45,210 --> 00:58:49,680
Matt and Amy as they stay start
their married life by the sea in

944
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,490
the same way that my wife and I
got married 17 years ago. Keep

945
00:58:53,490 --> 00:58:59,070
up with the great work kittens
encourage jobs, jobs, jobs and

946
00:58:59,070 --> 00:59:06,900
jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma. Now search ad

947
00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:10,170
mentions this donation is the
first of his matching donations

948
00:59:10,170 --> 00:59:16,440
for the slash in a JD challenge.
He wants a PDF link in the email

949
00:59:16,470 --> 00:59:23,910
to the show notes. Which I think
we can do. Okay. Executive Order

950
00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:28,530
9066 To master reflect this
shows recent Japan America focus

951
00:59:28,530 --> 00:59:28,710
can

952
00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:31,470
you remind me to do that after
the show's over because I'm

953
00:59:31,470 --> 00:59:32,970
gonna be so tired. Yeah,

954
00:59:33,180 --> 00:59:36,630
I'm putting it down right now.
My boss had to remind you to see

955
00:59:36,630 --> 00:59:42,180
Sir JD Okay. Chris Spears 333 33
in Austin, Texas to keep Austin

956
00:59:42,180 --> 00:59:45,600
in the game. Greetings Jansa a
little value for value finds you

957
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,600
well, my accounting is right. I
think it was now call me sir.

958
00:59:48,630 --> 00:59:50,760
No, the extra penny is thrown
in.

959
00:59:50,819 --> 00:59:54,389
Okay. I think I got that here.
It's actually it's actually 10

960
00:59:54,389 --> 00:59:54,899
yen

961
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:01,170
10 yen pan yen. Oh, please
regale us All with Lord DeVore

962
01:00:01,170 --> 01:00:03,600
extra quest for obedience.
Thanks.

963
01:00:06,270 --> 01:00:09,900
Okay, I didn't I thought he
wanted something else wasn't

964
01:00:09,900 --> 01:00:10,680
there?

965
01:00:11,220 --> 01:00:13,770
Well, he says it's impossible to
find that clip from Charlie

966
01:00:13,770 --> 01:00:15,870
Rose's interview with Pentalobe
crews

967
01:00:16,110 --> 01:00:18,990
Pentalobe Pentalobe John,

968
01:00:19,169 --> 01:00:21,989
that's what I said. Yeah, pen
Hello. Hello. Hello, obey, you

969
01:00:21,989 --> 01:00:27,419
will obey you will obey me about
the sexuality. It's in your DNA.

970
01:00:29,070 --> 01:00:31,200
You've got karma Pentalobe

971
01:00:31,590 --> 01:00:33,240
was that was from Pentalobe.

972
01:00:33,390 --> 01:00:37,860
Oh, it was Angelina Jolie, I
think. Right. Right,

973
01:00:37,860 --> 01:00:40,560
right. Yeah, I don't know. I
never saw his interview with

974
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:41,790
her. The but just

975
01:00:41,790 --> 01:00:43,800
to hear you say Pena Lopez.
Funny enough.

976
01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:48,270
Pentalobe cantaloupe. That's the
new way I'm pronouncing it.

977
01:00:48,330 --> 01:00:53,130
Yeah, I'm good with Dave. Oh, in
Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 333 33.

978
01:00:53,130 --> 01:00:57,150
Nice. Please refer to me as
Dave. Oh, this donation elevates

979
01:00:57,150 --> 01:00:59,220
me from Boehner to donor I
started listening to the show

980
01:00:59,220 --> 01:01:02,790
around episode 100. And we just
read this note. I feel a shame

981
01:01:02,790 --> 01:01:05,070
for not donating earlier but
I've been living a mac and

982
01:01:05,070 --> 01:01:08,010
cheese life for years after 33%
raise in the past year. I

983
01:01:08,010 --> 01:01:11,640
figured it was a sign. So here's
a long overdue donation to the

984
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,920
best podcast in universe I was
one of those producers that

985
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,610
stopped listening to your show
for almost a year. It wasn't a

986
01:01:17,610 --> 01:01:20,550
matter of time. It was more like
i understood that everything was

987
01:01:20,580 --> 01:01:24,090
effed up and I could do nothing
about it. Why was I wrong? The

988
01:01:24,090 --> 01:01:26,760
knowledge and understanding of
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priceless. Getting news from
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share we do we do a lot of World
News Now we do sharing

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alternative ideas with friends
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the mainstream media is
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993
01:01:39,810 --> 01:01:43,080
is priceless I wish I could give
you more money but I have to

994
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,390
live the American dream of just
getting by also I listen to

995
01:01:45,390 --> 01:01:48,690
every show live or on the day of
the show most shows I listen to

996
01:01:48,690 --> 01:01:52,920
twice thanks for keeping it hard
to believe. Thanks for keeping

997
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,680
me informed like no other media
source can please give you the

998
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,380
classic climate gate jingle and
some relationship karma.

999
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:16,470
Karma C Dvorak continues his
fast reading extravaganza Shane

1000
01:02:16,470 --> 01:02:19,980
Lindholm in North Aurora,
Illinois 26969. You are both

1001
01:02:19,980 --> 01:02:24,060
such on such a roll that I had
to show my appreciation in

1002
01:02:24,060 --> 01:02:26,970
greater ways than my usual
monthly donation which I have to

1003
01:02:26,970 --> 01:02:30,390
increase great job and continue
to report what no one else ever

1004
01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:35,100
will know. Thank you. makes me
proud. Soon to fully open my

1005
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:38,700
family's eyes. Good luck with
that. Keith Jacobson,

1006
01:02:38,700 --> 01:02:42,510
Phoenixville, Pennsylvania $200.
And he sent us a handwritten

1007
01:02:42,510 --> 01:02:48,870
note in longhand with a check
your John and Adam keep the way

1008
01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:52,050
he's got to keep looks like cup.
Keep up the great work and

1009
01:02:52,050 --> 01:02:56,130
please send me some karma for my
fledgling mechanical and

1010
01:02:56,130 --> 01:03:00,570
contracting business after
proving too intelligent for my

1011
01:03:00,570 --> 01:03:07,770
last job. I'm taking a four re a
foray into self employment. That

1012
01:03:08,279 --> 01:03:11,939
Okay, okay, go ahead. Good luck
with that. Definitely karma for

1013
01:03:11,939 --> 01:03:14,969
that. always encouraged you've
got karma.

1014
01:03:16,980 --> 01:03:19,830
Who's our executive producer
segment of show 618 And when

1015
01:03:19,830 --> 01:03:21,870
remind people that we do have a
show on Thursday coming about

1016
01:03:21,870 --> 01:03:25,140
being Detroit, Adam will remain
in Japan which will make it a

1017
01:03:25,140 --> 01:03:28,650
very interesting show to say the
least go to check that org slash

1018
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:32,760
n a child of org.com/na no
agenda showed.com or no agenda

1019
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,650
nation.com and click on the
donate button.

1020
01:03:35,340 --> 01:03:38,490
It's kind of sucks because
you'll be in Detroit and you

1021
01:03:38,490 --> 01:03:42,150
know we won't have the option of
paid priority to make sure that

1022
01:03:42,150 --> 01:03:45,990
our connection is is you know
his right arm because you're all

1023
01:03:45,990 --> 01:03:47,220
packets have to be equal.

1024
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,620
Yeah, it's ruining the show. And
I wonder why somebody told

1025
01:03:52,620 --> 01:03:54,090
Mignon about this problem.

1026
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:59,280
Quick PR mention there's a an
I'll play the song at the end of

1027
01:03:59,280 --> 01:03:59,910
the show.

1028
01:04:01,470 --> 01:04:02,370
Hog

1029
01:04:03,540 --> 01:04:09,390
of the group Short Fuse says
hey, I'd made this song years

1030
01:04:09,390 --> 01:04:12,840
ago after Adam asks for a rap
song then he made his own raps

1031
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,170
on the very next episode i
Anyway, I'm an avid listener in

1032
01:04:16,170 --> 01:04:18,690
Sacramento California have never
donated I'm a very broke

1033
01:04:18,690 --> 01:04:21,720
musician and construction worker
but love your show. haven't put

1034
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,120
the song on iTunes because I
don't think you'll play it but

1035
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,270
if you like it I'll make it
available ASAP and throw you

1036
01:04:27,270 --> 01:04:31,110
some long deserved loot. If by
chance you like this song call

1037
01:04:31,110 --> 01:04:35,700
out wa my brother and myself hog
both of the rap group Short Fuse

1038
01:04:35,850 --> 01:04:42,060
as delta Bravo Yes. Okay Delta
Bravo would be okay douchebags.

1039
01:04:42,690 --> 01:04:46,050
And so this is going to be on on
iTunes just a quick little

1040
01:04:46,050 --> 01:04:46,680
sample

1041
01:04:49,410 --> 01:04:53,670
I got no agenda when it comes to
the distracts rapid rails no

1042
01:04:53,670 --> 01:04:57,600
conspiracy theory you're
spitting facts. Do the research.

1043
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:03,150
Back it with some C span expose
That means watching as they

1044
01:05:03,150 --> 01:05:07,980
bless you with what you say it's
grabbing for Sakhalin to make

1045
01:05:07,980 --> 01:05:08,910
your flight good.

1046
01:05:11,309 --> 01:05:14,699
is actually the spitting some
badass rhymes about us. So

1047
01:05:14,700 --> 01:05:18,360
I'll play that to the TSA is
grabbing ball sacks from the

1048
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:18,690
back

1049
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:24,810
from behind. Yeah. Hey, oh, and
thank you all very much. Our

1050
01:05:24,810 --> 01:05:27,300
executive producers or Associate
Executive producers, these are

1051
01:05:27,300 --> 01:05:31,020
of course real credits and are
on the spot to donations from

1052
01:05:31,020 --> 01:05:35,940
our Tokyo but from our Japan
based producers, it is all

1053
01:05:35,940 --> 01:05:38,400
highly appreciate it, of course,
and these credits are good

1054
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,030
wherever credits are accepted.
And for the show on Thursday, as

1055
01:05:42,030 --> 01:05:46,920
John said, please help us out
org slash a and of course, if

1056
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,380
you want to try it, you can
always go out there and

1057
01:05:49,380 --> 01:05:54,510
propagate our formula. Our
formula is this. We go out. We

1058
01:05:54,510 --> 01:05:55,410
had people in the mouth

1059
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:18,300
as funny today DeMasters
daughter took us out. But she's

1060
01:06:18,300 --> 01:06:23,010
12. But she has she she knows
the subway system and the trains

1061
01:06:23,010 --> 01:06:25,830
like the back of her hand. Of
course. She says yeah, but she

1062
01:06:25,830 --> 01:06:28,530
also has, you know, she knows
how to use the Google Maps and

1063
01:06:28,530 --> 01:06:30,630
everything and she's and she's
you know, she speaks fluent

1064
01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:35,820
Japanese and fluent English.
And, and she took me to what

1065
01:06:35,820 --> 01:06:42,630
took us both to Akihabara where
the ham radio stores are the

1066
01:06:42,630 --> 01:06:45,600
oldest Yeah. Oh, oh, my god. Oh
my god. I

1067
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,940
tell I didn't predict exactly
your reaction.

1068
01:06:47,970 --> 01:06:52,680
Oh my god. If I said Mickey took
pictures of me just freaking

1069
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:57,720
out. There was still nothing but
ham radio. The other reaction

1070
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,170
I predicted which is did you do
this one, which is why can we

1071
01:07:01,170 --> 01:07:02,970
get this in the United States?

1072
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:07,710
Yeah, no, I there was some.
Yeah. But also the little

1073
01:07:07,710 --> 01:07:11,940
alleyways where you can just buy
every component you can imagine.

1074
01:07:11,970 --> 01:07:15,690
That's what they used to sell
the bootleg style anyway. Now,

1075
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:21,600
this kid is amazing. It's just
taken us all over the but we had

1076
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:26,520
lunch at this at the old railway
station. in Akihabara.

1077
01:07:27,780 --> 01:07:29,370
If I'm pronouncing Akihabara,

1078
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:34,020
Akihabara, that's right, thank
you. Akihabara. So the the old

1079
01:07:34,020 --> 01:07:37,380
railway station, which is from
now 1912. And they've converted

1080
01:07:37,380 --> 01:07:40,950
that into stores and a
restaurant. And so you're eating

1081
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,740
you're having and you can only
choose from three things on the

1082
01:07:43,740 --> 01:07:46,410
menu. And then you're sitting
there and then trains are going

1083
01:07:46,410 --> 01:07:51,450
by on either side. It's just
quite bizarre. We went into the

1084
01:07:51,450 --> 01:07:57,090
game arcade, which is kind of
like Pachinko Hall. But for

1085
01:07:57,090 --> 01:07:57,720
kids.

1086
01:07:58,770 --> 01:08:01,410
Yeah, they start them early. Oh,
yeah. Oh, man,

1087
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:07,920
the five floors of noise. Just
insane noise. But it was funny.

1088
01:08:07,980 --> 01:08:10,740
At a certain point. She just
starts spouting off stuff. She's

1089
01:08:10,740 --> 01:08:15,630
like, Hey, I think Mickey said
shut up or something to me. She

1090
01:08:15,630 --> 01:08:21,210
says Don't you have to say slave
after that? It was slave

1091
01:08:21,540 --> 01:08:26,610
apparently de mastered, listens
to the show in the mornings. And

1092
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,040
before she goes to school, so
she always hears the Shut up

1093
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:34,590
slave bit just before she she
has to leave. But it was it was

1094
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:35,670
pretty fascinating

1095
01:08:35,669 --> 01:08:38,069
today. No, that would be good.
I'm gonna see those photos.

1096
01:08:38,459 --> 01:08:42,539
And have you ever seen the the
traditional candy making?

1097
01:08:43,469 --> 01:08:46,439
No, I don't know if I have not.
Yeah, yeah. on Santa Cruz

1098
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,869
Boardwalk. They make Taffy with
some crazy machine that

1099
01:08:48,869 --> 01:08:52,259
stretches this trigger. Now. But
you're talking about no.

1100
01:08:52,379 --> 01:08:57,299
Yeah, they do it by hand. All
right, Bob. Washington's right

1101
01:08:57,299 --> 01:09:00,239
where we've got we got pictures,
we'll put the pictures up.

1102
01:09:01,019 --> 01:09:05,789
Anyway, a lot of people here are
talking about the Vietnam

1103
01:09:05,789 --> 01:09:10,559
Chinese situation. Because that,
of course, is interesting what's

1104
01:09:10,559 --> 01:09:13,739
happening here and in the Asian
regions.

1105
01:09:14,700 --> 01:09:17,070
So what about it? Tell me
because I do have a clip that

1106
01:09:17,070 --> 01:09:18,720
actually has a little bit of
this.

1107
01:09:19,649 --> 01:09:23,579
Well, people are. Well, of
course. So right now what's

1108
01:09:23,579 --> 01:09:27,989
happening is Vietnam. The
Vietnamese are just going nuts

1109
01:09:27,989 --> 01:09:32,279
about how the Chinese invading
their territorial water with big

1110
01:09:32,789 --> 01:09:37,319
right with a lot of big oil
rigs. Yeah. And, and, of course,

1111
01:09:37,529 --> 01:09:42,389
as we discussed on Thursday,
that Abbaye the Prime Minister,

1112
01:09:42,419 --> 01:09:46,079
Prime Minister of Japan, I
think, right. President or Prime

1113
01:09:46,079 --> 01:09:46,289
Minister,

1114
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,240
Prime Minister, Prime Minister,
I believe

1115
01:09:48,660 --> 01:09:51,330
he is now trying to keep up I'll
look him up while you're

1116
01:09:51,330 --> 01:09:53,550
talking. i Please do. Prime
Minister I think he's

1117
01:09:57,570 --> 01:09:59,250
operations is Parliament's.

1118
01:09:59,519 --> 01:10:01,979
So he's trying I need to change
Article Nine of the Constitution

1119
01:10:01,979 --> 01:10:07,379
here, which will allow Japan to
create war machinery again and

1120
01:10:07,379 --> 01:10:11,669
build an army and go to war. And
obviously, the Prime Minister

1121
01:10:11,729 --> 01:10:15,689
America likes this. So the thing
that is being said here is wow,

1122
01:10:15,689 --> 01:10:19,289
this is very interesting. How
come America is not jumping all

1123
01:10:19,289 --> 01:10:22,799
over China like they're doing
with Russia and in Ukraine?

1124
01:10:23,699 --> 01:10:29,429
Where's the help? Oh, why are
they doing that? Now? We got an

1125
01:10:29,519 --> 01:10:31,349
email from one of our producers.

1126
01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:34,890
If you if you want to go in that
direction after you have read

1127
01:10:34,890 --> 01:10:38,580
the email, I do have the call
and collection are good. Yeah,

1128
01:10:38,580 --> 01:10:41,100
that's good. Perfect, which
we'll talk about exactly this

1129
01:10:41,100 --> 01:10:41,460
issue.

1130
01:10:41,490 --> 01:10:45,300
Yes. From one of our producers
who requested to remain

1131
01:10:45,330 --> 01:10:49,410
anonymous international schools
are being closed. Students being

1132
01:10:49,740 --> 01:10:55,890
sent home. My kids school, the
mostly of Korean kids have had

1133
01:10:55,890 --> 01:11:01,260
their houses attacked. A number
of persons from Taiwan, China,

1134
01:11:01,260 --> 01:11:05,730
Korea, in Vietnam. Okay, Taiwan,
China, Korea are moving to

1135
01:11:05,730 --> 01:11:09,240
hotels in Saigon many waiting
for free flights to leave some

1136
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,810
drive into the Cambodian border
to cross into Cambodia. Lots of

1137
01:11:12,810 --> 01:11:16,110
international non Asian firms
are asking staff to take leave

1138
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:20,460
pulling managers out of Vietnam
shoe guys like Adidas are

1139
01:11:20,460 --> 01:11:25,410
pulling staff out of Vietnam.
And the so this is serious

1140
01:11:25,410 --> 01:11:28,050
business. And it's not just the
Chinese that they're angry.

1141
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,390
They're just the Vietnamese are
just pissed.

1142
01:11:32,670 --> 01:11:37,410
Well, I luckily we do have on
Channel 60 in the Bay Area,

1143
01:11:37,410 --> 01:11:41,640
which has international fees, a
Vietnamese news outlet, which I

1144
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,080
will now record. Okay.

1145
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,680
Let's get to your clips because
it looks like you got a lot of

1146
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:47,250
things here.

1147
01:11:47,370 --> 01:11:49,860
I have a bunch of clips from
that. Professor Cohen, who is

1148
01:11:49,860 --> 01:11:54,150
the guy that we go to guide now
concluded that he is

1149
01:11:54,150 --> 01:11:58,500
representing the Soviet Union or
Soviet Union. Yeah, the Soviet

1150
01:11:58,500 --> 01:12:01,950
Union. He's representing
Russia's, I believe he's a

1151
01:12:01,950 --> 01:12:02,520
Russian.

1152
01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:06,660
Well, he's a professor of again,
but he's, he's a professor of

1153
01:12:06,690 --> 01:12:07,920
Russian studies.

1154
01:12:07,980 --> 01:12:11,490
Yeah. And he lives in Russia.
And I think he hits most of the

1155
01:12:11,490 --> 01:12:14,760
stuff on the money. Yeah. But he
talks about let's play. I do

1156
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:19,620
have a play this. This is the
carry pre Cohen bitching about

1157
01:12:19,620 --> 01:12:21,480
Russia clip. Okay. Okay.

1158
01:12:21,870 --> 01:12:27,390
It's very hard to reconcile that
Russia is now making the

1159
01:12:27,390 --> 01:12:31,230
argument that Ukraine ought to
reduce not have an election or

1160
01:12:31,230 --> 01:12:33,870
postponed election because of
the violence that's taking

1161
01:12:33,870 --> 01:12:38,370
place. But Russia is full whole
hog behind having an election in

1162
01:12:38,370 --> 01:12:41,520
Syria, where there is far worse
violence.

1163
01:12:42,540 --> 01:12:46,710
Well, those bastards. Yeah. Hey,
Siri. So yeah, right. Well, he

1164
01:12:46,710 --> 01:12:52,440
they, this is not, this is
Carrie granting. And now this

1165
01:12:52,440 --> 01:12:56,550
next thing was Cohen discussing
that specific clip. He was on

1166
01:12:56,550 --> 01:13:01,320
the net. By the way, there's
123456 of these Cohen clips.

1167
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:04,800
Some of them are short. But this
was on democracy. Now. Believe

1168
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,200
me, I had to do a lot of work to
get these down. And he was on

1169
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:08,550
for 45 minutes. Yeah.

1170
01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:11,520
And the guy is good, though. And
I don't understand. We thought

1171
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,830
he would be killed. Yeah, I
thought he'd

1172
01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:16,830
be killed by now. But here he is
commenting. This is Carrie

1173
01:13:16,860 --> 01:13:21,270
Cohen, on carry commenting on
carries little discussion there.

1174
01:13:21,270 --> 01:13:22,110
That was Carrie,

1175
01:13:22,380 --> 01:13:25,380
there was Carrie, who has now
become Secretary of War, not

1176
01:13:25,380 --> 01:13:30,360
Secretary of State peace post
diplomat. And I don't recall in

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01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:34,080
the last two weeks, him uttering
a word about any kind of

1178
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:38,340
diplomacy. why he's so
embattled. I don't know. I don't

1179
01:13:38,340 --> 01:13:41,130
know when he made that
statement. But let's remember

1180
01:13:41,130 --> 01:13:44,730
what Putin said Was it last
Thursday? Because this clip that

1181
01:13:44,730 --> 01:13:48,240
you showed may be a little out
of date. Putin said it's very

1182
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,420
important. Russia had been
opposed to the presidential

1183
01:13:51,420 --> 01:13:55,110
election in Ukraine on the 25th.
That's what two weeks from

1184
01:13:55,110 --> 01:13:58,890
yesterday. I think he spoke on
Tuesday, this was him speaking.

1185
01:14:00,300 --> 01:14:03,060
This is a little out of date,
because on Thursday, I believe

1186
01:14:03,300 --> 01:14:07,170
Putin said, essentially that you
want to have a so called

1187
01:14:07,170 --> 01:14:12,180
presidential election in
Ukraine. It is a crazy idea. But

1188
01:14:12,180 --> 01:14:15,390
please go ahead. We won't
interfere. And it is a crazy

1189
01:14:15,390 --> 01:14:19,170
idea, and actually why it's a
bad idea. Now remember, we've

1190
01:14:19,170 --> 01:14:22,290
drawn a new red line, we've said
to Russia, if you interfere in

1191
01:14:22,290 --> 01:14:27,060
any way, with this presidential
election in Ukraine, we will

1192
01:14:27,060 --> 01:14:30,750
impose more sanctions on you. So
that election is very important

1193
01:14:30,750 --> 01:14:33,990
to the United States because we
want to bestow some legitimacy

1194
01:14:34,020 --> 01:14:37,530
on the unelected government in
Kyiv by giving an elected

1195
01:14:37,530 --> 01:14:42,600
president what kind of election
he can take place in eastern

1196
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,270
Ukraine because we a national
election, western and eastern

1197
01:14:45,270 --> 01:14:50,220
central, what kind of election
can take place, while Caribbean

1198
01:14:50,220 --> 01:14:56,100
tanks are firing on Ukrainian
cities? Now you can say well,

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01:14:56,100 --> 01:14:59,520
they'll stop firing on the day
of election, but what's going to

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01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,640
be the end parked on East
Ukrainians, particularly since

1201
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:07,920
they have no candidate. Their
parties have are on the run. The

1202
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:12,690
two candidates who proposed to
represent Eastern Ukraine in the

1203
01:15:12,690 --> 01:15:17,160
national election, two weeks ago
went to a TV studio, like this

1204
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:21,240
one in Kenya, to participate in
national debate, and were beaten

1205
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,210
up in the streets before they
can enter the building. This is

1206
01:15:24,210 --> 01:15:25,530
a presidential election.

1207
01:15:26,730 --> 01:15:31,140
We should try. Oh, yeah. I was
gonna say we should try that

1208
01:15:31,140 --> 01:15:34,740
here. Yeah, just beat these
candidates. That's

1209
01:15:34,740 --> 01:15:37,590
a good idea. Elizabeth Warren
should be beaten up.

1210
01:15:37,620 --> 01:15:40,110
By the way before, before you
move on. I just want to mention

1211
01:15:40,110 --> 01:15:42,930
that in the show notes, I have
the full text of Senate Bill

1212
01:15:42,930 --> 01:15:50,970
2277. The Russian aggression
Prevention Act of 2014. Which

1213
01:15:50,970 --> 01:15:55,140
essentially, no matter what
happens, we're going to we're

1214
01:15:55,140 --> 01:15:57,330
going to surround these guys.

1215
01:15:57,540 --> 01:16:01,410
Yeah. Well, until they give up
Snowden. But that's his my

1216
01:16:01,410 --> 01:16:01,980
theory.

1217
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,100
Yeah, that reasonable theory,

1218
01:16:05,490 --> 01:16:09,780
let's resume, Cohen can
deplaning this part two of his

1219
01:16:09,780 --> 01:16:13,950
elections, screed show.

1220
01:16:13,980 --> 01:16:18,030
So what's more likely to happen?
If this election happens, it

1221
01:16:18,030 --> 01:16:20,940
will be a step toward the
further partition of Ukraine,

1222
01:16:21,540 --> 01:16:25,890
because the president elected
will be the president of key of

1223
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:31,230
Western Ukraine and parts of
central Ukraine. And he or she

1224
01:16:31,230 --> 01:16:33,060
because there's a woman
candidates, I don't think she

1225
01:16:33,060 --> 01:16:37,860
has a chat chance will not be
recognised by Eastern southern

1226
01:16:37,860 --> 01:16:41,400
Ukraine, and that has absolutely
nothing to do with food. So that

1227
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,790
will be a step toward partition.
If you really want to solve the

1228
01:16:44,790 --> 01:16:48,630
problem. You go back to the
European Union proposal in

1229
01:16:48,630 --> 01:16:51,960
February, that you have
elections in December, you give

1230
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,530
everybody six, seven months a
chance to organise. And you have

1231
01:16:55,590 --> 01:17:01,350
parliamentary elections, as
well. Because the United States

1232
01:17:01,350 --> 01:17:05,490
is right. Democratic theories,
right. The essence of democratic

1233
01:17:05,490 --> 01:17:09,840
government is not a president,
but a parliament. You need a new

1234
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,330
parliament. They've got a rump
parliament and they need a new

1235
01:17:12,330 --> 01:17:16,260
constitution. A president can't
enact a new constitution. In

1236
01:17:16,260 --> 01:17:19,680
Ukraine, you need some sort of
constitutional assembly? Why are

1237
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:23,460
they rushing to May? And the
only reason is, is the United

1238
01:17:23,460 --> 01:17:26,490
States wants to give some
legitimacy to this government

1239
01:17:26,490 --> 01:17:30,210
key. I think in political
scientist, any constitutional

1240
01:17:30,210 --> 01:17:32,310
lawyer would tell you gotta
wait. You've got to do how

1241
01:17:32,550 --> 01:17:34,530
he's a constitutional lawyer.

1242
01:17:37,020 --> 01:17:41,820
So he's making good points
again, yeah. He, there's a go.

1243
01:17:41,820 --> 01:17:45,000
You were actually listen to this
little side clip, when he

1244
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,720
mentions Kissinger apparently
has been in the news making some

1245
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,470
noise. And he establishes a very
interesting point here, when he

1246
01:17:52,470 --> 01:17:56,190
talks about Kissinger and this
whole Ukrainian situation you

1247
01:17:56,190 --> 01:17:57,180
might want to play that.

1248
01:17:57,300 --> 01:18:00,810
We used to have a lot of so
called senior statesman wise

1249
01:18:00,810 --> 01:18:04,680
men, wise women to presidents
turned to an emergency. I can't

1250
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:08,790
think of one whom Obama turns to
now you've got him to Kissinger

1251
01:18:08,790 --> 01:18:12,870
Think what you will about his
past. But he sees Putin

1252
01:18:12,930 --> 01:18:17,220
personally and alone two times a
year they talk. Kissinger comes

1253
01:18:17,220 --> 01:18:20,160
from Europe from Germany, he
understands what's going on.

1254
01:18:20,190 --> 01:18:24,210
He's preaching the course of
negotiation. And Obama,

1255
01:18:24,810 --> 01:18:28,380
Kissinger, I in my understanding
is important, maybe wrong. Obama

1256
01:18:28,380 --> 01:18:31,740
has declined to see Kissinger
why in this crisis, when we can

1257
01:18:31,740 --> 01:18:34,860
imagine war with Russia. Would
you not want to spend an hour

1258
01:18:34,860 --> 01:18:35,520
with Kissinger?

1259
01:18:35,790 --> 01:18:39,060
Oh, yeah. Because Obama wouldn't
know what to say he doesn't

1260
01:18:39,060 --> 01:18:42,420
understand what's going on. And
this is not his move.

1261
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,650
I know, a knee and Kissinger
would say you're being used by

1262
01:18:46,650 --> 01:18:47,850
the neocon. Yeah.

1263
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:53,430
And I'm, I'm a little surprised.
Cohen doesn't just say, hey, is

1264
01:18:53,430 --> 01:18:56,640
because Obama really is not
running the show. It's Kerry

1265
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,850
who's being run by Neo cons in
the dailies

1266
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:02,820
through the 45 minutes, he never
actually came out and said that,

1267
01:19:02,820 --> 01:19:07,200
but he can't eat, but he does a
lot of innuendo. And he kind of

1268
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,320
suggest certain things. The next
one, which is Cohen, on the

1269
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,890
roundtable, he he puts us at
ease, leaving it up to the

1270
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,740
listener to get suspicious
instead of just coming right out

1271
01:19:16,740 --> 01:19:18,540
and say what we do, the

1272
01:19:18,540 --> 01:19:22,710
false statement he made. And the
premise on which American policy

1273
01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:28,140
has been made is that Putin
attacked Ukraine and began this

1274
01:19:28,140 --> 01:19:32,820
whole mess. Whatever you think
about what the outcome should

1275
01:19:32,820 --> 01:19:36,480
be, that is just factually
untrue. All of this began when

1276
01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:39,870
the United States in Europe
asked Ukraine back last

1277
01:19:39,870 --> 01:19:44,940
November, to make the decision
between Russia and the European

1278
01:19:44,940 --> 01:19:47,550
Union that triggered the
protests that led to this.

1279
01:19:48,090 --> 01:19:52,980
Here's the tragedy. People are
dying, when there's a perfectly

1280
01:19:52,980 --> 01:19:58,380
accessible way to negotiate. And
it's not my idea. It's the idea

1281
01:19:58,380 --> 01:20:02,370
proposed by angle Umer called
Germany that there'll be a

1282
01:20:02,370 --> 01:20:07,350
roundtable. And Putin in Ukraine
of all the conflicting Ukrainian

1283
01:20:07,500 --> 01:20:10,620
forces that would be West
Ukraine key of eastern Ukraine.

1284
01:20:10,890 --> 01:20:13,800
And Putin said a few days ago
and that famous statement where

1285
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,310
he said he pulled the troops
back, and we say he's lying. And

1286
01:20:17,310 --> 01:20:19,650
then somebody said, We gotta
wait for the satellite pictures.

1287
01:20:20,790 --> 01:20:23,880
He said, I just talked to
Merkel. And Merkel says there

1288
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,450
should be a roundtable in
Ukraine of all the combatants in

1289
01:20:27,450 --> 01:20:31,860
Ukraine. And he said, I agree,
let's do this. So Russia, once

1290
01:20:31,860 --> 01:20:34,650
these negotiations inside
Ukraine, Germany, the most

1291
01:20:34,650 --> 01:20:37,620
powerful nation in Europe wants
from the EU wants from

1292
01:20:37,830 --> 01:20:40,140
Washington assignment, what is
going on?

1293
01:20:40,260 --> 01:20:44,100
She Yeah, well as because this
is not being run from

1294
01:20:44,100 --> 01:20:44,880
Washington.

1295
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:52,170
Well, he makes that pretty clear
at least. P. He goes a little

1296
01:20:52,170 --> 01:20:55,260
bit straight to discuss
something which I clipped for

1297
01:20:55,260 --> 01:20:59,070
the specific reason that I
realised that what he's talking

1298
01:20:59,070 --> 01:21:02,340
about is something I remember as
a kid and has been completely

1299
01:21:02,340 --> 01:21:06,330
wiped out of American history,
or holidays and everything in

1300
01:21:06,330 --> 01:21:10,380
between. And now I'm like
suspicious about it because it

1301
01:21:10,380 --> 01:21:14,040
isn't a minor occurrence or a
minor event but play calling on

1302
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:19,410
V Day we have a whole country's
says to you. I'm sorry. Nothing

1303
01:21:19,410 --> 01:21:21,180
I didn't say anything but that
but she said she stopped and I

1304
01:21:21,180 --> 01:21:24,690
want to mention something else.
This is he's really discussing

1305
01:21:24,690 --> 01:21:28,920
when Putin on V Day which was
May 8 or ninth went to crime.

1306
01:21:28,980 --> 01:21:32,970
What do I want to explain what V
Day is, in Europe days when the

1307
01:21:32,970 --> 01:21:36,000
Nazis were defeated? And what
used to be a holiday in the

1308
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,870
United States, we had two
holidays. One was V J day and V

1309
01:21:39,870 --> 01:21:44,430
then V Day, which was then
called V Day change because we

1310
01:21:44,430 --> 01:21:46,500
dropped the other one, and then
they dropped them both and we

1311
01:21:46,500 --> 01:21:48,600
don't celebrate either one of
these things. We could you know,

1312
01:21:48,630 --> 01:21:53,910
you just have Armistice Day two,
which is also done. Cohen is

1313
01:21:53,910 --> 01:21:57,750
talking about when Putin went to
Crimea, they all are news

1314
01:21:57,750 --> 01:22:00,870
outlets oh he went to Crimea
just did that just to was to

1315
01:22:00,870 --> 01:22:03,630
rile up the some I don't know
there was a bunch of poor

1316
01:22:03,630 --> 01:22:06,600
reporting on it but he went
there specifically for this

1317
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,060
holiday. Play this

1318
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,840
of our whole country says a year
when all the citizens here got

1319
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,960
the PW was loopy decided to be
together with Russia.

1320
01:22:16,350 --> 01:22:19,740
That's Russian President
Vladimir Putin in Crimea Friday,

1321
01:22:19,740 --> 01:22:20,910
Professor Stephen Cohen.

1322
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:26,790
I have a flashback. Not exactly
like this. But when I was a kid

1323
01:22:26,790 --> 01:22:29,760
growing up in Kentucky in
Indiana, we had something called

1324
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:35,130
V Day Victory in Europe Day.
That's what Russia calls Victory

1325
01:22:35,130 --> 01:22:39,810
Day. It represents the victory
over Nazi Germany in Europe. We

1326
01:22:39,810 --> 01:22:44,010
seem not to do the day in this
country anymore. In the

1327
01:22:44,010 --> 01:22:47,850
Spielberg and Hanks make a movie
about World War Two. And for

1328
01:22:47,850 --> 01:22:51,840
Russia, May 9, it was made in
America because the time

1329
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:56,700
difference is the most sacred
secular holiday. I've been going

1330
01:22:56,700 --> 01:22:59,850
and living in Russia for 40 or
50 years. It's true that the

1331
01:22:59,850 --> 01:23:02,370
government going back to the
communists and carrying through

1332
01:23:02,370 --> 01:23:06,270
Putin manipulate this holiday.
It's absolutely true for their

1333
01:23:06,270 --> 01:23:12,300
own political purposes. But this
is one holiday that 95% 90% of

1334
01:23:12,300 --> 01:23:15,210
Russians feel in their hearts.
It's deeply meaningful, even

1335
01:23:15,210 --> 01:23:18,360
though it's almost 70 years
after World War Two. And it's

1336
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:22,650
meaningful because when we say
27 point 5 million Soviet

1337
01:23:22,650 --> 01:23:27,690
citizens died, defeating Nazi
Germany in Europe and it was the

1338
01:23:27,690 --> 01:23:30,900
Russians who defeated the Soviet
Union who defeated Nazi Germany

1339
01:23:30,930 --> 01:23:35,490
in Europe. That That means that
virtually every family in Russia

1340
01:23:35,490 --> 01:23:39,120
lost somebody whom they still
mourn. Putin was tapping into

1341
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:44,520
this on May 9, but it's
authentic is meaningful. And my

1342
01:23:44,550 --> 01:23:47,190
when I look at these films, I
remember it tells us how

1343
01:23:47,190 --> 01:23:51,240
different our two countries are
we no longer memorialise World

1344
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:55,440
War Two, except for Hollywood
movies, whereas for Russia, it's

1345
01:23:55,500 --> 01:23:57,360
it's just a sacred holiday.

1346
01:23:57,540 --> 01:24:03,210
We barely memorialised Iraq. We
let our veterans die waiting for

1347
01:24:03,210 --> 01:24:03,990
treatment.

1348
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,850
Some sort of our allies are so
pathetic,

1349
01:24:09,480 --> 01:24:11,790
sad. It makes me

1350
01:24:11,790 --> 01:24:14,490
mad. I thought it was weird. And
then the last clip, which is the

1351
01:24:14,490 --> 01:24:18,660
one where he's discussing the
tanks in the eastern part of the

1352
01:24:18,690 --> 01:24:23,460
country of the of Ukraine. Now,
this unit listen to all this

1353
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:27,240
together, you realise that this
is a manipulative situation.

1354
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:32,250
We're behind probably all of it.
And he thought he talks about

1355
01:24:32,250 --> 01:24:35,070
Newland and all the rest of
these people over there sweating

1356
01:24:35,070 --> 01:24:35,580
bugs, but

1357
01:24:35,580 --> 01:24:37,020
But does he call her Nudelman?

1358
01:24:37,710 --> 01:24:40,200
No, he does not call her
Nudelman which is a huge

1359
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,500
blunder. But that's but here he
is on the war crimes thing and

1360
01:24:43,500 --> 01:24:46,890
again, he's been you know, he's
he does this a subtle pointing

1361
01:24:46,890 --> 01:24:48,720
of the finger but he never
really comes down and says what

1362
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:50,280
we say the context

1363
01:24:50,310 --> 01:24:53,640
is of what has happened since
the key of government. Now let

1364
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:57,810
our let our viewers be clear
this key of government is the

1365
01:24:57,810 --> 01:25:01,590
government that came to power
with out legality. You can

1366
01:25:01,590 --> 01:25:04,740
accept it or not accepted. But
it is the government that is

1367
01:25:04,740 --> 01:25:09,120
embraced 100% by Washington, and
by Europe, it is our government,

1368
01:25:09,510 --> 01:25:15,450
this government sent troops to
eastern Ukraine, that's about

1369
01:25:15,480 --> 01:25:19,140
seems to be about 10 15,000.
Maybe not that many, but tanks,

1370
01:25:19,830 --> 01:25:23,670
armoured personnel carrier,
heavy artillery, with

1371
01:25:23,670 --> 01:25:27,990
helicopters flying over with
government, since tanks into a

1372
01:25:27,990 --> 01:25:30,150
city when there's nothing
happening in the city to provoke

1373
01:25:30,150 --> 01:25:32,940
you, and here's the second part
of the story personally is

1374
01:25:32,940 --> 01:25:36,870
outrageous. Me. I don't know how
your viewers and listeners think

1375
01:25:36,900 --> 01:25:39,810
what did the United States
government say? Did he say we

1376
01:25:39,810 --> 01:25:42,540
regret the loss of life? Did he
say there should be an

1377
01:25:42,540 --> 01:25:46,440
investigation? No, it said, he
has the right to restore law and

1378
01:25:46,440 --> 01:25:51,210
order. Now, I would stretch this
out if a war crime was committed

1379
01:25:51,210 --> 01:25:55,170
in Odessa, by the burning of 40
people to death in the building,

1380
01:25:55,440 --> 01:25:59,640
and my tanks entering the
streets of Maria pool, or any

1381
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:04,260
other city. If that's a war
crime. We didn't commit it. But

1382
01:26:04,260 --> 01:26:06,810
we applauded it. And there's
something wrong there no matter

1383
01:26:06,810 --> 01:26:08,760
who's right and wrong in this
dispute.

1384
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:14,430
Yeah. Yeah. And if the American
public were informed at all,

1385
01:26:14,730 --> 01:26:17,400
they would probably agree with
the professor. Yeah, no,

1386
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,280
we wouldn't put up with an
American public. You the way you

1387
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:24,450
deal with him is you keep them
uninformed. You bring up the net

1388
01:26:24,450 --> 01:26:28,320
neutrality thing, give that
front page and let the American

1389
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:32,010
does background go on with these
Neo cons who have been screwing

1390
01:26:32,010 --> 01:26:36,390
them the American taxpayer of
nothing else? Yeah, for over

1391
01:26:36,510 --> 01:26:40,950
probably 20 years. It just it's
unbelievable.

1392
01:26:40,980 --> 01:26:46,860
Let me let me read a few, just
an abbreviated version of Senate

1393
01:26:46,860 --> 01:26:51,450
Bill 2277, which may be cited as
the Russian aggression

1394
01:26:51,450 --> 01:26:56,940
Prevention Act of 2014. This is
where we're headed. This clearly

1395
01:26:56,940 --> 01:27:01,380
spells out what the next steps
are. So I'm just going to give

1396
01:27:01,380 --> 01:27:04,140
you the table of contents and if
there's something you want to

1397
01:27:04,170 --> 01:27:08,640
dive into, we can do that.
reinvigorating the NATO alliance

1398
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:12,150
strengthening United States
assistance and force posture in

1399
01:27:12,150 --> 01:27:15,870
Europe and Eurasia. United
States efforts to strengthen

1400
01:27:15,870 --> 01:27:18,870
NATO Alliance expanded support
for Poland and the Baltic

1401
01:27:18,870 --> 01:27:21,930
states, accelerating
implementation of European and

1402
01:27:21,930 --> 01:27:25,140
NATO missile defence efforts
strengthening United States

1403
01:27:25,140 --> 01:27:28,560
German cooperation on global and
European security issues,

1404
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,920
deterring further Russian
aggression in Europe, United

1405
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,350
States policy towards Russian
aggression and Europe sanctions

1406
01:27:34,350 --> 01:27:37,290
to address continuing aggression
of the Russian Federation toward

1407
01:27:37,290 --> 01:27:40,140
Ukraine, additional sanctions in
the event of increased

1408
01:27:40,140 --> 01:27:42,270
aggression by the Russian
Federation towards Ukraine and

1409
01:27:42,270 --> 01:27:45,300
other countries, which is all
the banks now, limitation on

1410
01:27:45,300 --> 01:27:48,180
Russian access to United States
oil and gas technology,

1411
01:27:48,390 --> 01:27:51,000
diplomatic measures with respect
to the Russian Federation

1412
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,570
support for Russian democracy
and civil society organisations.

1413
01:27:55,380 --> 01:27:59,580
That's a big one, by the way.
Yeah, that's the NGOs that's all

1414
01:27:59,580 --> 01:28:06,720
the bullcrap riot, Riot
organisations, hardening Ukraine

1415
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,810
and other European and Eurasian
states against Russian

1416
01:28:09,810 --> 01:28:13,140
aggression, which involves
military assistance for Ukraine,

1417
01:28:13,260 --> 01:28:17,280
sense of Congress unintelligent
sharing with Ukraine major non

1418
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:22,860
NATO ally status for Ukraine,
Georgia and Moldova. Expanding

1419
01:28:22,860 --> 01:28:25,170
security force training
assistance and defence

1420
01:28:25,170 --> 01:28:29,880
cooperation with key non NATO
states this is essentially the

1421
01:28:31,050 --> 01:28:36,960
making states who are not NATO
into NATO. By extension,

1422
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:41,760
expediting national natural gas
exports, European and Eurasian

1423
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:45,240
energy independence, Crimea
annexation nonrecognition

1424
01:28:45,390 --> 01:28:48,000
support for democracy and civil
society organisations and

1425
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,090
countries of the former Soviet
Union we go again that's another

1426
01:28:51,090 --> 01:28:53,820
one of those lovely ones and
expanding broadcasting in

1427
01:28:53,820 --> 01:28:56,520
countries of the Soviet of the
former Soviet Union.

1428
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,560
Hello, this is the voice of
Russia. We are here to tell you

1429
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:05,250
what is going on. Your Putin man
is news very very bad it's very

1430
01:29:05,250 --> 01:29:09,870
bad. Do not trust Him do not
trust him trust only American

1431
01:29:09,870 --> 01:29:10,560
Yankees.

1432
01:29:14,580 --> 01:29:15,510
Like that voice

1433
01:29:16,350 --> 01:29:19,020
you will live with that voice.
This is the voice of Russia

1434
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:22,410
Russia now we play some songs
for you for Backstreet Boys.

1435
01:29:22,530 --> 01:29:25,860
Backstreet Boys very very nice
Voice of America very good place

1436
01:29:25,860 --> 01:29:26,280
to be

1437
01:29:29,250 --> 01:29:30,690
in between Dracula

1438
01:29:32,370 --> 01:29:33,330
they should hire me

1439
01:29:33,809 --> 01:29:36,449
yeah yeah Mr. Price don't get
voiceover work.

1440
01:29:39,780 --> 01:29:42,630
Coming to you from the top of
the Kremlin, this is the voice

1441
01:29:42,630 --> 01:29:43,350
of Russia.

1442
01:29:44,610 --> 01:29:49,290
Meanwhile, under reported but
almost overreported in

1443
01:29:49,290 --> 01:29:50,790
alternative media Why Wait,
wait,

1444
01:29:50,790 --> 01:29:52,050
wait, wait before you continue.

1445
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,720
Yes. What is wrong? My comrade
John what is wrong?

1446
01:29:55,410 --> 01:29:59,850
Oh, who are the sponsors of the
bill? One moment I have to open

1447
01:29:59,850 --> 01:30:02,490
up text again. Yeah,

1448
01:30:02,519 --> 01:30:05,099
it's it's late here. That's why
I forgot to do that hold on,

1449
01:30:05,249 --> 01:30:08,759
sponsors of the bill. I'm gonna
let's see. What do you think?

1450
01:30:09,690 --> 01:30:14,610
Well, John McCain would be on my
shortlist. Oh, well, the

1451
01:30:14,610 --> 01:30:21,810
DA Mr. Corker, Mr. McConnell,
Ms. Aodh. Mr. Hooven le Kelly,

1452
01:30:21,810 --> 01:30:22,050
who's

1453
01:30:22,050 --> 01:30:23,370
in the in the McCain club?

1454
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:26,550
Yep. Well, Mr. Blood, this is
alphabetical. Oh, no, it's not I

1455
01:30:26,550 --> 01:30:31,380
guess Mr. Rubio, Mr. McCain. Mr.
Cronin. McCain Horning. Mr. Corn

1456
01:30:31,380 --> 01:30:35,970
Of course, Mr. Graham, Mr. Kirk
Mr. Barrasso? Okay. They the

1457
01:30:35,970 --> 01:30:39,600
douchebag. Mr. Reach Mr. Coates,
Mr. Roberts, Mr. Inhofe Mr.

1458
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:45,360
Portman, Mr. Alexander Mr. Thune
Mr. Isaacson Mr. Hatch, Mr.

1459
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,550
Flake, Mr. Johnson of Wisconsin.

1460
01:30:48,299 --> 01:30:51,809
Please welcome please welcome
Mr. Johnson of Wisconsin, the

1461
01:30:51,809 --> 01:30:54,329
wheels of steel everybody here
at Voice of Russia.

1462
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:59,010
Again, Okay, I gotta say trade
just little just to put McCain

1463
01:30:59,010 --> 01:31:02,460
back into the picture here. So
they had a commerce committee

1464
01:31:02,460 --> 01:31:06,540
had a meeting about a new term.
I'd never heard this term

1465
01:31:06,540 --> 01:31:10,320
before, but they're talking
about malvertising malvertising

1466
01:31:10,530 --> 01:31:13,020
malvertising. Now divertido

1467
01:31:13,050 --> 01:31:15,750
Wait a minute, Comrade, John,
what is this malvertising you

1468
01:31:15,750 --> 01:31:16,410
speak of?

1469
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:25,470
Malware baptising malware plus
advertising, making metal

1470
01:31:25,470 --> 01:31:27,450
advertising making malvertising.

1471
01:31:27,450 --> 01:31:31,290
This sounds very good. It sounds
like a NATO complaint against a

1472
01:31:31,290 --> 01:31:32,850
Russian Federation.

1473
01:31:33,900 --> 01:31:35,370
So in fact,

1474
01:31:37,020 --> 01:31:39,450
it's something I like doing but
it's something that like,

1475
01:31:39,450 --> 01:31:43,890
yeah, you can you can back it
off. Okay. You can bring it back

1476
01:31:43,890 --> 01:31:46,410
in when you feel like but I just
writing it for now, let me just

1477
01:31:46,410 --> 01:31:48,960
get these three clips out of the
way because these are short. And

1478
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,570
they make the point is very
interesting. Listening to John

1479
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,300
McCain is such a douchebag. I'm
going to point out a couple of

1480
01:31:54,300 --> 01:31:57,180
very interesting things he does.
First, it's really great that he

1481
01:31:57,180 --> 01:31:59,820
does what he does, which is he
he's got three people that

1482
01:31:59,820 --> 01:32:03,030
testifying in front of this
group of the one of these

1483
01:32:03,030 --> 01:32:06,960
commerce malvert malvertising
advertising guys, so they had a

1484
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:10,560
guy from Yahoo who had eyeballs
one way one was half closed one

1485
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:15,360
was up and down. Google get your
eyes straight. The Yahoo guy and

1486
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,760
he had he looked like Charlie
Chase if anyone who remembers

1487
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,910
that character. And then there
was a Google guy who was just a

1488
01:32:20,940 --> 01:32:25,410
just a bald, brown headed little
like an accountant guy. And then

1489
01:32:25,410 --> 01:32:28,440
there's some guy from some
organisation I never heard of.

1490
01:32:28,590 --> 01:32:31,680
And he was talking about how bad
those guys from Google and Yahoo

1491
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:35,280
were. So it starts off with with
McCain just giving these guys

1492
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:38,340
grief. Especially this is going
after the Google guy who

1493
01:32:38,340 --> 01:32:40,140
apparently is just going to
disagree. There's a Yeah, I

1494
01:32:40,140 --> 01:32:43,260
disagree. That is going up. No,
I disagree. It's going down. And

1495
01:32:43,260 --> 01:32:46,080
then did you did you make a fool
of the clown of this guy with

1496
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,450
his first step, which is McCain
versus Google guy.

1497
01:32:48,480 --> 01:32:54,930
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank
the witnesses. If you put that

1498
01:32:54,930 --> 01:33:03,720
chart back up about the increase
in mouth advertising. Witnesses

1499
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:05,790
agree that the problem is
getting worse rather than

1500
01:33:05,790 --> 01:33:07,980
better. Would you agree Mr.
Salem?

1501
01:33:10,410 --> 01:33:13,170
I would not. I would not agree.

1502
01:33:13,410 --> 01:33:15,720
Did you put your microphone a
little closer please.

1503
01:33:17,610 --> 01:33:21,930
Thank you, that would help. I
don't agree the problem is

1504
01:33:21,930 --> 01:33:22,140
getting

1505
01:33:22,140 --> 01:33:24,330
better. The one thing that was
getting worse

1506
01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:27,510
I'm sorry it's not thank you. I
don't believe that it's getting

1507
01:33:27,510 --> 01:33:31,860
worse. You don't believe that
chart then? I have not seen that

1508
01:33:31,860 --> 01:33:35,310
chart. I saw that from the
report. Our indication where we

1509
01:33:35,310 --> 01:33:38,940
actually show you're saying that
chart is inaccurate that's not

1510
01:33:38,940 --> 01:33:41,220
the chart that's not the
information that I have sir. I

1511
01:33:41,220 --> 01:33:41,580
see.

1512
01:33:41,610 --> 01:33:44,700
Maybe you can provide the
committee with the information

1513
01:33:44,700 --> 01:33:46,020
do you have Mr. stablish

1514
01:33:47,490 --> 01:33:50,460
serve our data has been pretty
much steady on the kinds of

1515
01:33:50,550 --> 01:33:52,350
attempts that we've seen coming
inbound.

1516
01:33:53,250 --> 01:33:56,010
What I need a definition of
malvertising

1517
01:33:58,530 --> 01:34:02,700
malvertising is these eight if
you go and you there's an ad and

1518
01:34:02,700 --> 01:34:05,670
you click on it and the next
thing you know you're on a page

1519
01:34:05,670 --> 01:34:09,540
that's downloading a virus or
it's it's talking to malware

1520
01:34:09,540 --> 01:34:10,170
malware,

1521
01:34:10,230 --> 01:34:14,820
it's malware. Why is McCain why
is this Why is McCain spending

1522
01:34:14,820 --> 01:34:17,610
his time talking to these guys
about this? Who cares what is it

1523
01:34:17,610 --> 01:34:20,280
what is the point of this today?

1524
01:34:20,670 --> 01:34:24,660
Good you walked right into that
one? Well like this is like a

1525
01:34:24,660 --> 01:34:25,050
clip

1526
01:34:25,500 --> 01:34:28,350
is called the show John is what
do we do things we ever

1527
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:30,510
tempted if seen coming inbound?

1528
01:34:31,350 --> 01:34:35,190
Would you agree that these
probably the worst attacks come

1529
01:34:35,190 --> 01:34:40,800
from overseas specifically
Russia? Wait a minute.

1530
01:34:40,889 --> 01:34:43,469
I thought it was China on the
line you stepped on it said

1531
01:34:43,469 --> 01:34:46,679
bless the play the end again.
You said Russia Yeah, I said

1532
01:34:46,679 --> 01:34:47,579
Russia. No, I

1533
01:34:47,580 --> 01:34:49,230
didn't step on it. Now. Now

1534
01:34:49,230 --> 01:34:51,780
the guy that no part three
that's where he jumps the shark.

1535
01:34:51,780 --> 01:34:55,470
Now McCain turns into a dick and
I want to point out something

1536
01:34:55,470 --> 01:34:55,890
here.

1537
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:57,300
Wait a minute, turns into

1538
01:34:58,620 --> 01:35:08,520
what am I I'm sorry, I was a
huge blunder. McCain now goes

1539
01:35:08,550 --> 01:35:12,060
back to his dickish nature and
he starts to harass these guys.

1540
01:35:12,330 --> 01:35:16,200
And, and one guy makes the point
and I'm going to make the point

1541
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:20,280
is that most of the crap that
really as bad comes from of all

1542
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:23,580
places, which is never
mentioned, Ukraine. In fact, if

1543
01:35:23,580 --> 01:35:26,820
you talk to the if you talk to
the FBI or anybody about this,

1544
01:35:27,090 --> 01:35:29,610
they when they're investigating
a lot of these problems that are

1545
01:35:29,610 --> 01:35:34,080
online, as soon as they see the
UK of Ukraine IP address, they

1546
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:37,590
stop investigating because they
can do nothing you cannot get

1547
01:35:37,590 --> 01:35:41,880
into the into Ukraine to catch
any criminals that are dealing

1548
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,940
with this. And it's always about
Ukraine. Now the one guy and I'm

1549
01:35:44,940 --> 01:35:48,000
just gonna give you a kind of a
clue on what he's gonna say.

1550
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:50,280
He's gonna say, Well, yeah, a
lot of it comes from Eastern

1551
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:55,620
Europe, former Soviet Union
countries, but to McCain doesn't

1552
01:35:55,620 --> 01:35:58,260
hear any of that it's all
Russia. And Russia is not the

1553
01:35:58,260 --> 01:36:01,410
bad actor here. But but he's
making this point. Again, again,

1554
01:36:01,410 --> 01:36:04,860
this is part of this giant
scheme, because I believe I'm

1555
01:36:04,860 --> 01:36:07,860
maybe the only one that thinks
this, because of Snowden.

1556
01:36:08,550 --> 01:36:13,890
We see attacks from all around,
it's usually very difficult to

1557
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,110
have accurate to accurately

1558
01:36:16,770 --> 01:36:19,560
have no accurate data as to
where it comes from. It's good

1559
01:36:20,250 --> 01:36:22,530
to have accurate data as to
where dipole and where does it

1560
01:36:22,530 --> 01:36:23,130
come from?

1561
01:36:24,150 --> 01:36:27,060
We see these kinds of attempts
from all around the world. Well,

1562
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:29,580
you're right. We do see a lot
from Eastern Europe in the

1563
01:36:29,580 --> 01:36:31,470
former Russian republics. Well,
thank

1564
01:36:31,470 --> 01:36:33,330
you for that. How about humans
to say,

1565
01:36:33,690 --> 01:36:38,490
yes, we also see a lot of the
malware itself will come from

1566
01:36:38,490 --> 01:36:41,880
servers that are also in Russia,
and also,

1567
01:36:42,389 --> 01:36:46,199
so this is really an
international issue as well as a

1568
01:36:46,199 --> 01:36:51,779
domestic issue, I would argue.
Suppose that some individual is

1569
01:36:51,779 --> 01:36:58,499
the victim of malware. Mr.
Stamos Does, does Yahoo have any

1570
01:36:58,499 --> 01:36:59,939
responsibility for that?

1571
01:37:00,870 --> 01:37:03,600
We absolutely take
responsibility for our user

1572
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:05,880
safety, which is why we do all
the work we do

1573
01:37:05,910 --> 01:37:09,750
so someone loses their bank
account, you reimburse them.

1574
01:37:09,990 --> 01:37:13,500
Douchebag sorry. No, it's

1575
01:37:13,500 --> 01:37:17,160
perfect. Now he's the other guy
that Google guy who is already

1576
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:21,450
being badgered he he's the one
who coughed up Russia when they

1577
01:37:21,480 --> 01:37:23,820
the other guy wouldn't do it.
The Yahoo guy says no, US

1578
01:37:23,820 --> 01:37:27,690
Eastern Europe performer Russian
they wouldn't say Ukraine

1579
01:37:27,690 --> 01:37:30,570
because I'm sure they were told
not to. And meanwhile then then

1580
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:35,280
and and McCain is such a dick
with these guys. And I maybe

1581
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:38,190
it's warranted in some manner
because they're just talking in

1582
01:37:38,190 --> 01:37:40,170
gibberish and Buzz terms. You
know,

1583
01:37:40,170 --> 01:37:43,800
these they clearly these things
are always set up and he had his

1584
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:45,810
shield he was probably just
being a dick because the guys

1585
01:37:45,810 --> 01:37:48,180
weren't playing along and we're
just repeating the Russia

1586
01:37:48,180 --> 01:37:49,680
Russia, Russia, Russia mean
Yeah. And that's

1587
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:52,470
why he went when the Google guy
said Russia, he went right back

1588
01:37:52,470 --> 01:37:55,050
to the Yahoo guy and started
haranguing him again, right,

1589
01:37:55,050 --> 01:37:56,070
right. Right. Right.

1590
01:37:57,120 --> 01:38:00,870
Cuz I wasn't playing ball. Yeah.
So that's, that's what's going

1591
01:38:00,870 --> 01:38:01,830
on Congress.

1592
01:38:01,860 --> 01:38:04,770
I'm sure you you saw this and I
just want to make mention of it

1593
01:38:04,770 --> 01:38:08,010
because I it's quite honestly, I
just slipped my mind to mention

1594
01:38:08,010 --> 01:38:12,240
it on Thursday. Younger son of
Vice President Joseph Biden,

1595
01:38:12,630 --> 01:38:16,410
yeah. has taken the position of
member of the board of directors

1596
01:38:16,410 --> 01:38:19,920
and legal adviser to Burisma
Holdings Limited the largest

1597
01:38:20,130 --> 01:38:24,510
private natural gas production
company in Ukraine. Hunter

1598
01:38:24,510 --> 01:38:28,950
Biden. Now here's the here's the
cool one joins another American

1599
01:38:30,180 --> 01:38:36,150
who recently became a director
of the firm Devon Archer. Do you

1600
01:38:36,150 --> 01:38:37,170
know Devon Archer is

1601
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:39,420
no you got me on this one. This
is a good catch.

1602
01:38:39,450 --> 01:38:43,800
Top fundraiser for Secretary of
State John Kerry during his 2004

1603
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:47,130
presidential bid and college
roommate of Kerry's stepson

1604
01:38:49,440 --> 01:38:54,240
doesn't play so well. When
you've got the sons of the two

1605
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:57,930
top douchebags running the show.
Well, actually Biden not running

1606
01:38:57,930 --> 01:39:00,390
anything but he is the pretty
boy who has to show up and give

1607
01:39:00,390 --> 01:39:06,990
everyone an attaboy that they're
capitalising on their career

1608
01:39:06,990 --> 01:39:08,550
shameless. They have no

1609
01:39:09,930 --> 01:39:11,610
20 or 30 years ago, shameless

1610
01:39:11,610 --> 01:39:12,870
is exactly the right guest

1611
01:39:13,020 --> 01:39:16,590
because the the New York Times
The Washington Post, they'd be

1612
01:39:16,590 --> 01:39:19,920
all over this with editorials.
These people are shameless

1613
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:23,610
because they can get away with
anything they want to do. I

1614
01:39:23,610 --> 01:39:26,130
think that's why Hillary's
running, because she knows

1615
01:39:26,130 --> 01:39:29,850
there's nothing but problems
with that Clinton Library and

1616
01:39:29,850 --> 01:39:33,330
its support by the Saudi
government and all the illegal

1617
01:39:33,330 --> 01:39:36,060
campaign contributions that were
probably funnelled to bill when

1618
01:39:36,060 --> 01:39:39,360
he was running for president and
the Saudis who we've supported

1619
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:44,010
in every way possible. And they
it but she's thinking now, who

1620
01:39:44,010 --> 01:39:47,640
cares? Nobody's going to give a
crap about Bill as corrupt

1621
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:50,730
politics by may not even have to
kill him.

1622
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:56,520
You can't change the Red Book
just yet. I just,

1623
01:39:57,090 --> 01:40:04,290
you know, mentioning Yeah, she
has I can see, I'd have to kill

1624
01:40:04,290 --> 01:40:08,850
him Uma, Uma, Uma, Uma, Uma, we
might not have to kill him.

1625
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:12,600
That's fine like that.

1626
01:40:13,860 --> 01:40:16,830
But of course, this is ramping
up on all sides we have the

1627
01:40:16,830 --> 01:40:21,510
United Nations. And now coming
with an alarming, alarming

1628
01:40:21,510 --> 01:40:24,540
document about the alarming
deterioration of human rights in

1629
01:40:24,540 --> 01:40:28,110
eastern Ukraine. Of course, of
course, human rights. Yes, of

1630
01:40:28,110 --> 01:40:34,980
course. What else do we have?
Are the Friends of Syria? No,

1631
01:40:35,250 --> 01:40:39,300
screw it. Screw all these guys
actually did have, I have one

1632
01:40:39,300 --> 01:40:44,730
little carry thing? He is
trying. So it's a one. It's a

1633
01:40:44,730 --> 01:40:47,790
twofer. We got to get the we
still got to do something with

1634
01:40:47,790 --> 01:40:52,170
Syria. Because we no matter what
we're not, we now have the ISIL

1635
01:40:52,170 --> 01:40:55,080
or whatever it's called. They're
in eastern Syria.

1636
01:40:55,890 --> 01:40:58,710
And calming down. There we go. I
don't know what we're gonna do.

1637
01:40:58,710 --> 01:41:00,210
This is a bad trend for

1638
01:41:00,210 --> 01:41:02,100
oh, no, no, here's, here's what
you do.

1639
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:08,100
I have seen evidence. I don't
know how how verified? It's not

1640
01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:09,510
verified? Yeah, it hasn't been.

1641
01:41:10,740 --> 01:41:12,630
But I've seen evidence,

1642
01:41:12,900 --> 01:41:14,730
the Secretary of War, right.

1643
01:41:15,450 --> 01:41:19,830
But I've seen the raw data that
suggests raw data has its raw

1644
01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:23,550
data may have been, as Francis
suggested a number of instances

1645
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,940
in which chlorine has been used
in the conduct of war.

1646
01:41:26,969 --> 01:41:31,679
Now, hold on a second, he says,
I have seen evidence raw data

1647
01:41:31,709 --> 01:41:35,789
that suggests chlorine has been
used.

1648
01:41:37,230 --> 01:41:40,260
And if it has, if it has, if it

1649
01:41:40,260 --> 01:41:42,360
could be proven, which we're
working on,

1650
01:41:42,809 --> 01:41:46,529
then that would be against the
agreements of the chemical

1651
01:41:46,529 --> 01:41:50,579
weapons treaty against the
weapons convention that Syria

1652
01:41:50,609 --> 01:41:51,509
has signed up to.

1653
01:41:51,570 --> 01:41:56,100
And that would be reason for us
to do his job, John, his job now

1654
01:41:56,100 --> 01:42:00,270
is to gear this thing up because
Obama failed, or, or actually,

1655
01:42:00,270 --> 01:42:06,000
Obama dropped the ball, drop the
vol. and now it's like, hey,

1656
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:09,540
Kerry, Hey, dude, listen up. You
gotta we gotta get Syria. We got

1657
01:42:09,570 --> 01:42:11,160
this. We're losing face here.

1658
01:42:11,190 --> 01:42:16,380
If it is proven that chlorine
was used as a chemical, chemical

1659
01:42:16,380 --> 01:42:20,790
and war, which is prohibited,
what will the Syrian Government

1660
01:42:20,790 --> 01:42:22,800
face? What steps can you take?

1661
01:42:22,860 --> 01:42:27,000
Whoa, what do you think the
answer will be? Except bomb.

1662
01:42:28,710 --> 01:42:32,400
It has been made clear by
President Obama and others.

1663
01:42:34,290 --> 01:42:36,450
Let's just pass it off to Obama
here.

1664
01:42:36,780 --> 01:42:41,220
Use would result in
consequences. We're not gonna

1665
01:42:41,220 --> 01:42:45,360
pin ourselves down to a precise
time, date, manner of action.

1666
01:42:45,930 --> 01:42:48,750
But there will be consequences
if it were to be proven,

1667
01:42:48,750 --> 01:42:52,830
including, I might say things
that are way beyond our control.

1668
01:42:52,830 --> 01:42:55,770
They have nothing to do with us.
But the International Criminal

1669
01:42:55,770 --> 01:43:00,360
Court and others are free to
hold him accountable. And as you

1670
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:01,950
know, we have a resolution.

1671
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:05,850
Oh, we're all in on the
International Criminal Court on

1672
01:43:05,850 --> 01:43:06,810
us, right, the United

1673
01:43:06,810 --> 01:43:10,500
Nations with respect to
culpability for crimes against

1674
01:43:10,500 --> 01:43:16,260
humanity, atrocities in the
course of this conflict. So one

1675
01:43:16,260 --> 01:43:17,580
way or the other,

1676
01:43:18,030 --> 01:43:21,450
we'll go one way or the other.
Oh, gotta go bomb. I'm

1677
01:43:21,450 --> 01:43:23,070
here. We'll be accountability.

1678
01:43:23,130 --> 01:43:29,280
Accountability. Yeah, this guy,
we got to go on record. We just

1679
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:34,140
have to say this guy is it is a
horrible man. And the worst

1680
01:43:34,140 --> 01:43:36,780
thing is he believes he's doing
the right thing.

1681
01:43:39,210 --> 01:43:40,530
I don't know anybody believes.

1682
01:43:43,110 --> 01:43:49,230
I find the guy to be he does a
terrible. This. This guy's not a

1683
01:43:49,230 --> 01:43:52,440
diplomat. He's not done anything
diplomatic. I think Cohen has

1684
01:43:52,440 --> 01:43:57,510
that. Right. He's just a sabre
sabre rattling Secretary of War.

1685
01:43:58,050 --> 01:44:01,590
And this is nonsense. And we
know that the series they never

1686
01:44:01,590 --> 01:44:05,670
had cash caches of chlorine gas,
which is a very old fashioned

1687
01:44:05,820 --> 01:44:08,970
poison gas, they had the new
modern stuff, which is all being

1688
01:44:08,970 --> 01:44:11,550
hauled away and I'm sure they'd
like to blow up a couple of

1689
01:44:11,550 --> 01:44:13,920
those canisters, but I'm sure
the Russians are keeping a good

1690
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:16,950
eye on it. So that doesn't
happen. And so they've dreamed

1691
01:44:16,950 --> 01:44:19,860
up they made somebody have
somebody manufacture some

1692
01:44:19,860 --> 01:44:22,740
chlorine gas, which you can do
in your kitchen by the way, it's

1693
01:44:22,740 --> 01:44:25,440
not that difficult with some
with some Clorox. Yes, well,

1694
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:27,540
we'll put a recipe in the show
notes.

1695
01:44:28,590 --> 01:44:32,610
Which we won't do that you can
do it and you can look it up but

1696
01:44:32,610 --> 01:44:35,970
just beside the point. This is
like this is such a phoney deal.

1697
01:44:35,970 --> 01:44:41,490
This is a this is desperation
making up stuff at the end and

1698
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,610
claiming this gassing and this
you know, because they found

1699
01:44:44,610 --> 01:44:47,820
probably can find some evidence
that chlorine was used somewhere

1700
01:44:47,820 --> 01:44:50,880
and they can extrapolate Yeah,
the French guys are all in on

1701
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:53,340
this. The French and the
Americans want to do this for

1702
01:44:53,340 --> 01:44:57,420
some reason. There's something
there's something afoot. Yeah,

1703
01:44:57,420 --> 01:45:00,240
well, this guy I think good
Bashir is gonna get grabbed He's

1704
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:02,970
gonna be fine. He's gonna He's
gonna be pissed.

1705
01:45:05,130 --> 01:45:08,520
Well, I don't know exactly
what's going to happen, but it's

1706
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:12,570
clear that they're trying to go
the NATO un route. So he has a

1707
01:45:12,570 --> 01:45:17,700
resolution and, and we just need
to get some proof and once

1708
01:45:17,700 --> 01:45:21,660
again, but the proof thing is it
always falls flat because these

1709
01:45:21,660 --> 01:45:24,930
UN reports they, they talked to
some people on Skype and then

1710
01:45:24,930 --> 01:45:28,740
they talked to the guy who's the
Syrian observation centre there

1711
01:45:28,740 --> 01:45:34,200
in London, one guy in a in a in
a flat in London. And we've

1712
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:37,590
talked about him, and then
that's a proof and no, it's not

1713
01:45:37,590 --> 01:45:40,860
enough for anyone to buy it. You
know, you've you've got to have,

1714
01:45:41,130 --> 01:45:41,670
look,

1715
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:44,610
they can do better. Let's put it
this way. They could do a much

1716
01:45:44,610 --> 01:45:46,020
better job of setting this guy

1717
01:45:46,050 --> 01:45:50,070
they need they need to do the
baby's incubator thing. It no

1718
01:45:50,070 --> 01:45:52,500
one cares. They're too busy
worrying about the Netflix

1719
01:45:52,500 --> 01:45:55,650
buffering. You need some real
outright heat. I'm telling you,

1720
01:45:56,550 --> 01:46:02,730
gays difficut This is so obvious
if Bashar Al Assad was killing

1721
01:46:02,730 --> 01:46:06,900
gays, you'd have an outro you'd
have people getting pissed off.

1722
01:46:08,430 --> 01:46:10,800
Yeah, or dogs. Dogs is

1723
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,320
pretty good. Stray dogs. Gotta
get the stray dogs in there.

1724
01:46:13,500 --> 01:46:15,630
Hey, wait a couple of balance.
You need balance. We

1725
01:46:15,630 --> 01:46:18,510
got a couple of proclamations
that I'd like to talk about.

1726
01:46:18,510 --> 01:46:22,050
This has been a crazy month for
proclamations, presidential

1727
01:46:22,050 --> 01:46:27,060
proclamations. First of all, a
continuation of the National

1728
01:46:27,060 --> 01:46:32,640
Emergency with respect to Burma,
that has been signed into the

1729
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:36,000
federal register because of
course Burma is so dangerous to

1730
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:41,730
our national security. Which
just means the only reason we're

1731
01:46:41,730 --> 01:46:44,850
doing that is because the
Chinese are pipelining through

1732
01:46:44,850 --> 01:46:48,810
Burma. So that's why we need to
have a national emergency

1733
01:46:48,810 --> 01:46:53,010
occasionally to blow something
up to drone something and some

1734
01:46:53,010 --> 01:46:56,490
terrorists near the pipeline.
Present proclamation 60th

1735
01:46:56,490 --> 01:46:59,670
anniversary of Brown versus
Board of Education. You know

1736
01:46:59,670 --> 01:47:02,970
what that is right. That was the
segregation in schools.

1737
01:47:03,480 --> 01:47:06,330
desegregation desegregation
President proclamation World

1738
01:47:06,330 --> 01:47:12,870
Trade Week 2014. commercial ties
build partnerships between

1739
01:47:12,870 --> 01:47:15,600
nations and spur growth across
the world here in America trade

1740
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:19,050
bolsters our small business,
which makes up 98% of our

1741
01:47:19,050 --> 01:47:23,640
exporters and create nearly two
out of three every three new

1742
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:27,300
jobs. During World Trade Week we
celebrate these benefits. We

1743
01:47:27,300 --> 01:47:30,360
redouble our efforts to promote
trade while protecting workers

1744
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:33,300
safeguarding the environment and
opening markets to new goods

1745
01:47:33,300 --> 01:47:40,140
stamped Made made in the USA
that of course is all about the

1746
01:47:40,170 --> 01:47:44,370
the trade agreements that we're
working on Armed Forces Day,

1747
01:47:44,430 --> 01:47:47,970
which was on May 16. By
presidential proclamation did we

1748
01:47:47,970 --> 01:47:52,470
celebrate? No. Did you even know
was Armed Forces Day?

1749
01:47:52,980 --> 01:47:57,240
No, I didn't know I didn't do it
yet. A VE day passed me by and

1750
01:47:57,570 --> 01:47:59,760
this generation has
distinguished itself on mission

1751
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:02,460
after mission tour after tour
because of their heroism, the

1752
01:48:02,460 --> 01:48:05,160
core of al Qaeda is severely
degraded and our homeland is

1753
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:10,530
more secure. Okay, then we have
presidential proclamation

1754
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:15,300
Emergency Medical Services week.
Wherever whenever crisis hits

1755
01:48:15,300 --> 01:48:17,880
the men or women of our
emergency medical services, EMS

1756
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:20,580
rushed to the scene. With
unyielding steadiness, they

1757
01:48:20,580 --> 01:48:23,850
bring care to those who need it
most. During emergency medical

1758
01:48:23,850 --> 01:48:26,700
services, we show our gratitude
to the EMS practitioners who aid

1759
01:48:26,700 --> 01:48:28,440
our families, friends and
neighbours in their darkest

1760
01:48:28,440 --> 01:48:33,000
moments. Now we have several EMS
and other emergency services

1761
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:37,680
people who will listen to the
show. And 90s you have yes and

1762
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:43,410
90% of their work is is spent
showing up to people who call

1763
01:48:43,410 --> 01:48:47,700
911 You cannot refuse a 911
call. And usually these people

1764
01:48:47,700 --> 01:48:50,700
like hey, can you get my smoke
from the table there? I'm too

1765
01:48:50,700 --> 01:48:51,630
weak to get up.

1766
01:48:53,130 --> 01:48:54,060
This is a fact.

1767
01:48:56,010 --> 01:49:00,510
President's proclamation it is
also National Safe Boating Week.

1768
01:49:01,410 --> 01:49:05,850
If you didn't know that either,
did you? Yeah, you

1769
01:49:05,850 --> 01:49:08,280
always got when you do this
segment. I'm always like

1770
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:11,070
befuddled because you're right.
I don't know any of this during

1771
01:49:11,070 --> 01:49:11,430
National

1772
01:49:11,430 --> 01:49:14,100
Safe Boating Week. We also
recognise the crucial work of

1773
01:49:14,100 --> 01:49:16,470
the United States Coast Guard to
prevent boating accidents that

1774
01:49:16,470 --> 01:49:19,890
claim lives case cause injuries
and damaged property. We think

1775
01:49:19,890 --> 01:49:23,400
they're partners across the
nation. And we're getting down

1776
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:27,720
to the wire here. This is the
most important one I think and I

1777
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:32,400
think this can be used and we
have a new mean. This was for

1778
01:49:32,580 --> 01:49:38,700
yesterday. 10th International
Day Against Homophobia and

1779
01:49:38,700 --> 01:49:46,110
Transphobia. This is new to me
transphobia First, I would like

1780
01:49:46,110 --> 01:49:48,930
to explain the word for any
whenever you have a phobia a

1781
01:49:48,930 --> 01:49:52,770
phobia is literally an
irrational fear of something.

1782
01:49:53,070 --> 01:49:56,520
Yeah, irrational fear. I thought
this word was appropriated

1783
01:49:57,330 --> 01:50:02,700
improperly from the get go I've
never liked The Homo phobia,

1784
01:50:04,380 --> 01:50:10,380
nomenclature, homo hatred.
There's all kinds of ways of

1785
01:50:10,380 --> 01:50:14,460
putting it. But generally
speaking, that is not a fear.

1786
01:50:15,750 --> 01:50:21,990
It's a dislike or hatred or
prejudice or, or disagreement,

1787
01:50:22,140 --> 01:50:24,390
or disagreements, a lot of
different things. But of course,

1788
01:50:24,390 --> 01:50:27,720
everything is now homophobic and
transphobic is again

1789
01:50:27,750 --> 01:50:32,670
appropriating the phobia or
status stuff, but also

1790
01:50:32,670 --> 01:50:42,000
but also trans. I feel that the,
the capture the hijacking of the

1791
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:47,490
word trans is somewhat offensive
trans phobia, it would

1792
01:50:47,490 --> 01:50:55,020
transportation, transmission. As
a lot of trans is but now trans

1793
01:50:55,020 --> 01:50:57,150
is just transsexual

1794
01:50:58,740 --> 01:51:01,680
as we commemorate the 10th and
let's not transvestite

1795
01:51:01,740 --> 01:51:05,880
toward, well, that would fall
under trans. But that's not

1796
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:08,220
meant here. 10 Daniel
International Day Against

1797
01:51:08,220 --> 01:51:11,370
Homophobia and Transphobia, we
recommit ourselves to the

1798
01:51:11,370 --> 01:51:13,170
fundamental belief that all
people should be treated

1799
01:51:13,170 --> 01:51:15,750
equally, that they should have
the opportunity to reach their

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01:51:15,750 --> 01:51:18,090
fullest potential, and no one
should face violence or

1801
01:51:18,090 --> 01:51:22,740
discrimination no matter who
they are. Or John. Yeah, who

1802
01:51:22,740 --> 01:51:23,640
they love.

1803
01:51:25,410 --> 01:51:33,090
Gotta get get that in there.
Yeah, at a time, I am not gonna

1804
01:51:33,090 --> 01:51:33,720
go near them at

1805
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:36,660
a time when tragically we are
seeing increased effort to

1806
01:51:36,660 --> 01:51:40,770
criminalise or oppress LGBT
persons. Yeah, like your

1807
01:51:40,770 --> 01:51:44,820
buddies. They're in Qatar, your
buddies in Saudi Arabia and

1808
01:51:44,820 --> 01:51:49,380
replenish Nigeria, Uganda. Yeah,

1809
01:51:49,470 --> 01:51:53,640
yeah. God never done it said
that word one about that. We

1810
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:57,120
call on partners everywhere.
Your show brings this up. Yeah.

1811
01:51:57,390 --> 01:51:57,480
And

1812
01:51:57,480 --> 01:52:04,020
that's because we are not
transphobic we are truly we

1813
01:52:04,020 --> 01:52:08,880
truly are the only media outlet
that I know of that talks openly

1814
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:17,610
and honestly about the issues of
LGBTQ IAP the only i you i defy

1815
01:52:17,610 --> 01:52:25,980
anyone show me trouble in
paradise John. Trouble in

1816
01:52:25,980 --> 01:52:31,200
paradise. And I am of course
referring to the $250 million

1817
01:52:31,530 --> 01:52:36,540
weblog known as first look the
intercept. Trouble in paradise.

1818
01:52:36,540 --> 01:52:40,320
Marcy Wheeler. Yeah, quit. Yes.
She

1819
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:42,810
just got the job. Why did she
quit? She won't say

1820
01:52:43,530 --> 01:52:47,370
well, that that, by the way
discredit her enormously in my

1821
01:52:47,370 --> 01:52:51,240
book, she's, but I think she's
actually afraid. I think she is

1822
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:56,190
truly afraid to say what's wrong
and what's happening. And hey,

1823
01:52:56,190 --> 01:52:59,610
ladies and gentlemen, these
people this thing is dead. Glenn

1824
01:52:59,610 --> 01:53:05,490
Greenwald don't rap. He is not
talking about it. Of course. How

1825
01:53:05,490 --> 01:53:09,240
hypocritical that No, he won't
retweet anything or say, oh,

1826
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:12,210
yeah, you know, here's what's
going on. This thing is falling

1827
01:53:12,210 --> 01:53:15,690
apart. And something really,
really bad is going on and

1828
01:53:15,690 --> 01:53:19,260
Greenwald wants to get out. And
it's messed up and he's going to

1829
01:53:19,260 --> 01:53:24,150
do everything he can. I'm
convinced of it. He's going to

1830
01:53:24,150 --> 01:53:27,270
do everything he can to avoid
the whole thing. He's not even

1831
01:53:27,270 --> 01:53:29,190
gonna write for them anymore. It

1832
01:53:29,460 --> 01:53:31,860
It all began when they brought
the guy in from the Gawker.

1833
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:36,870
Yeah, the guy who says we're not
gonna we're gonna hire or we're

1834
01:53:36,870 --> 01:53:41,070
not gonna hire whites. When he
said, We need black people,

1835
01:53:41,070 --> 01:53:43,440
we're not gonna hire any more
white Ernie, because we got

1836
01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:46,950
enough whites, no whites, and
we're, by the way, no content,

1837
01:53:46,950 --> 01:53:49,470
we're not going to do anything
until we what what are they

1838
01:53:49,470 --> 01:53:52,320
waiting for? They've got all
these, they have a crapload of

1839
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:54,960
writers, they don't need to hire
anybody at all to be honest

1840
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:58,140
about it. They got a crapload of
guys that could be producing

1841
01:53:58,140 --> 01:54:01,380
something. And there's enough of
them that could fill up this

1842
01:54:01,380 --> 01:54:04,020
thing very easily by just
cutting them loose, but they

1843
01:54:04,050 --> 01:54:04,650
don't.

1844
01:54:05,009 --> 01:54:09,569
So what's happening now? Are
they actually weird? Oh, because

1845
01:54:09,599 --> 01:54:13,769
it's it's exactly what we said
it would be. It was the whole

1846
01:54:13,769 --> 01:54:18,419
idea was to silence these people
to fix peer drive my car's

1847
01:54:18,419 --> 01:54:21,569
reputation, particularly when it
comes to his involvement in

1848
01:54:21,569 --> 01:54:26,279
paying for what's going on in
Ukraine for his his jihad

1849
01:54:26,279 --> 01:54:33,659
against WikiLeaks and, and eBay
and PayPal. It's it's messy, and

1850
01:54:34,169 --> 01:54:36,929
it's going to hurt these
people's careers. Glenn

1851
01:54:36,929 --> 01:54:44,309
Greenwald on Raph this guy dude
stop stop with the stop and just

1852
01:54:44,309 --> 01:54:48,479
go back and write some stuff do
something now the as his movie

1853
01:54:48,959 --> 01:54:51,899
and he's all he's all giddy.
He's giddy that Sony is

1854
01:54:51,899 --> 01:54:54,869
purchased the which doesn't mean
there's a movie by the way. He's

1855
01:54:54,869 --> 01:54:59,879
just they just purchased the
rights. But Sony key was if you

1856
01:54:59,879 --> 01:55:04,319
go back and look at his writing
he accused Sony of and actually

1857
01:55:04,319 --> 01:55:08,789
some of the same executives AB
Pascal Doug Bell grad and the

1858
01:55:08,789 --> 01:55:12,689
team at Sony Pictures
Entertainment. He accused them

1859
01:55:12,689 --> 01:55:17,189
of producing the ultimate
hagiography with the when they

1860
01:55:17,189 --> 01:55:21,089
made the Zero Dark 30 But now of
course it's the Glenn Greenwald

1861
01:55:21,089 --> 01:55:24,689
movie and he's Oh, it's all
good. Now he hasn't talked about

1862
01:55:24,689 --> 01:55:29,609
how how he hated them then
hypocritical douchebag and

1863
01:55:29,699 --> 01:55:32,789
here's the Glenn Greenwald all
giddy all giddy with Jake

1864
01:55:32,789 --> 01:55:34,559
Tapper. They're talking about
the movie.

1865
01:55:34,590 --> 01:55:37,590
So Glenn Greenwald, who's
playing you who's playing Edward

1866
01:55:37,590 --> 01:55:39,930
Snowden in the movie version?
There's all kinds of

1867
01:55:39,930 --> 01:55:42,120
speculation. I'm going to leave
that to Twitter for the most

1868
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:42,480
part.

1869
01:55:42,510 --> 01:55:46,740
He has an erection John, he
actually has an election. He's

1870
01:55:46,740 --> 01:55:48,960
so happy about this. The leading

1871
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:53,190
names that I've seen are Jared
Leto for for Edward Snowden who

1872
01:55:53,190 --> 01:55:54,360
with whom I'm not really
familiar.

1873
01:55:54,480 --> 01:56:00,870
I'm sorry he only won an Academy
Award this year Glenn for Dallas

1874
01:56:00,870 --> 01:56:04,980
Buyers Club you're not familiar
with his work but you know he's

1875
01:56:04,980 --> 01:56:06,990
but he doesn't give a shit
because it's about who's playing

1876
01:56:06,990 --> 01:56:07,410
him really

1877
01:56:07,410 --> 01:56:10,710
familiar. And Edward Norton has
been mentioned a lot for me but

1878
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:15,210
yes, I'm but I'm much more
handsome than Edward Norton.

1879
01:56:16,230 --> 01:56:19,770
He was also on Charlie Rose with
the same spiel. Oh, do you got a

1880
01:56:19,770 --> 01:56:23,580
clip? No. No, I didn't get a
clip because I find that

1881
01:56:23,580 --> 01:56:27,540
Greenwald is extremely hard to
clip because he's, he has run on

1882
01:56:27,540 --> 01:56:30,030
sentences he AQa gag, gag, gag,
gag, gag, gag, gag, gag, gag,

1883
01:56:30,030 --> 01:56:31,680
gag. Whatever stops Why does

1884
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:36,450
anyone think this movie is going
to be interesting? Why it's

1885
01:56:36,450 --> 01:56:39,420
gonna be it's not interesting.
It's like the WikiLeaks movie

1886
01:56:39,450 --> 01:56:41,250
fail. No one cares,

1887
01:56:41,340 --> 01:56:45,060
though. The Wikileaks leaks
movie was was terrible. And it

1888
01:56:45,060 --> 01:56:47,670
did there was no drama there. I
mean, it's just a bunch of guys

1889
01:56:47,670 --> 01:56:50,970
no drama and Glenn Greenwald say
there except for this note, the

1890
01:56:50,970 --> 01:56:54,870
Snowden story could be kind of
by itself could be turned into

1891
01:56:54,870 --> 01:56:57,570
something if he had some good
writers Dinoland brothers or

1892
01:56:57,570 --> 01:57:00,510
somebody? Yeah, I think you
could make it I might be

1893
01:57:00,510 --> 01:57:03,780
fictionalised and it would be
not the same not the real story.

1894
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:05,220
The real story is boring.

1895
01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:13,470
Yeah, exactly if it anyway this
is this Greenwald is not I can't

1896
01:57:13,470 --> 01:57:15,030
take another thing serious that
he writes

1897
01:57:15,060 --> 01:57:17,700
and here's another thing that he
needs any of these to stop

1898
01:57:19,260 --> 01:57:24,060
calling out his colleagues. You
know, this is this is a good way

1899
01:57:24,060 --> 01:57:27,660
to go have to go back to
becoming a lawyer man because

1900
01:57:27,660 --> 01:57:30,240
you're not gonna get hired
anywhere with this type of

1901
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:34,890
attitude. You got he's got this
mighty how holier than thou? And

1902
01:57:34,890 --> 01:57:37,800
this whole drive my car thing is
falling apart. No one's gonna

1903
01:57:38,220 --> 01:57:41,850
know what he's gonna be the most
hated man. And it's all this.

1904
01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:43,110
It's a boomerang. Will

1905
01:57:43,110 --> 01:57:46,200
I have you had this? Go ahead. I
brought this story up in the

1906
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:49,590
show about two or three months
ago, which is that I don't know

1907
01:57:49,590 --> 01:57:53,820
this for a fact. But listening
to him talk I sense as possible

1908
01:57:54,660 --> 01:57:57,540
that he is never He wasn't a
professional writer when he

1909
01:57:57,540 --> 01:58:00,630
began and he went when he went
to the Guardian. I'm convinced

1910
01:58:00,990 --> 01:58:03,210
that the reason the Guardian
didn't make a big fuss about

1911
01:58:03,210 --> 01:58:05,310
keeping him because that's what
you'd want to do because he's a

1912
01:58:05,310 --> 01:58:09,330
big moneymaker for the paper.
That was because he's a pain in

1913
01:58:09,330 --> 01:58:12,690
the ass to edit. He probably
questions I know that some of

1914
01:58:12,690 --> 01:58:17,520
these writers, he may not put
together a good argument he made

1915
01:58:17,550 --> 01:58:20,730
structurally be weak and so they
have to work on it for him

1916
01:58:20,730 --> 01:58:24,150
because he can't write well,
let's just theoretically, and

1917
01:58:24,150 --> 01:58:26,730
then when they start to mess
with his copy, he makes a big

1918
01:58:26,730 --> 01:58:30,120
fuss. And there's nothing worse
than a writer that just won't

1919
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:32,970
let you edit him because it's
like, oh, no, you can't do that

1920
01:58:32,970 --> 01:58:35,550
because I wanted to use this
with this way because this guy

1921
01:58:35,550 --> 01:58:39,810
was Glenn Greenwald. Who do you
think you're editing anyway? I'm

1922
01:58:39,810 --> 01:58:42,990
good. You know, you're you're a
nothing you're a No buddy editor

1923
01:58:42,990 --> 01:58:45,930
and you're editing me. You
shouldn't be ashamed of

1924
01:58:45,930 --> 01:58:49,470
yourself. I want to talk to the
boss. This woman trying to edit

1925
01:58:49,470 --> 01:58:53,610
me and she's an idiot. I mean,
that kind of guy is not a

1926
01:58:53,610 --> 01:58:57,750
welcome person in a newspaper.
Because it's newspapers are just

1927
01:58:57,750 --> 01:59:02,820
a machine to produce copy.
meaningless crap, literally.

1928
01:59:02,850 --> 01:59:06,060
Yep. That goes out as fast as it
can. And I don't think he

1929
01:59:06,510 --> 01:59:08,160
performed well in that regard.

1930
01:59:08,190 --> 01:59:11,250
While we're on that, I think the
New York Times is falling apart

1931
01:59:11,250 --> 01:59:14,700
too. I think this jewel Abrams
the hump the Hummer getting.

1932
01:59:16,170 --> 01:59:19,830
I think it's now name them
getting I was looking at

1933
01:59:19,830 --> 01:59:22,560
some flips over they were
talking about this on the I do

1934
01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:26,790
have Do I have a clip on this? I
do have one clip. This is women

1935
01:59:26,790 --> 01:59:29,130
in the news. This was a woman
that used to be the editor in

1936
01:59:29,130 --> 01:59:32,700
chief of the Chicago Tribune
bitching about the fact that now

1937
01:59:32,700 --> 01:59:35,400
there's no women editors in any
of the great papers and we're

1938
01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:36,600
going to listen to this

1939
01:59:36,690 --> 01:59:40,020
once a year actually, we could
actually fill a dinner table of

1940
01:59:40,020 --> 01:59:43,800
those of us who are doing this
work. And we're now with Jill's

1941
01:59:43,830 --> 01:59:48,180
dismissal. We have no women
leading any newspapers and the

1942
01:59:48,180 --> 01:59:53,460
top 10 markets and in the top 25
We have only two

1943
01:59:53,639 --> 01:59:58,379
alright, may I say something to
the women in journalism, be

1944
01:59:58,379 --> 02:00:04,529
happy and start working on not
being part of some crazy, you

1945
02:00:04,529 --> 02:00:07,979
can't monetize the network any
more people be your own little

1946
02:00:07,979 --> 02:00:12,209
entity. You're not going to make
hundreds of millions of dollars,

1947
02:00:12,209 --> 02:00:14,939
but you can certainly like Marcy
Wheeler. I think she made she

1948
02:00:14,939 --> 02:00:18,329
saved herself. She said her name
Marcy thing is Marcy Wheeler,

1949
02:00:18,329 --> 02:00:18,659
isn't it?

1950
02:00:19,470 --> 02:00:22,140
I don't know who Marcy Wheeler
is. Empty wheel. The

1951
02:00:22,140 --> 02:00:23,610
who left who left the?

1952
02:00:24,210 --> 02:00:26,820
Oh, I'm sorry. I've got you.
Right. Yeah. No, the one who

1953
02:00:26,820 --> 02:00:29,040
quit? Quit unfortunately
started. Yeah.

1954
02:00:29,460 --> 02:00:34,560
The you can if you're going to
wait around to be part of and I

1955
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:38,880
will say this. So male dominated
ownership of newspapers, then

1956
02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:41,790
you're stupid. And I think women
are much smarter than that. You

1957
02:00:41,790 --> 02:00:45,300
need to go and get your own
thing going. It's time. I mean,

1958
02:00:45,330 --> 02:00:48,480
we may not be the driving
Maseratis, and we may not be

1959
02:00:48,480 --> 02:00:53,010
taking towncars to lunches at
Morton's. But we're getting by

1960
02:00:53,010 --> 02:00:55,050
and we're doing something and
we're changing something. Isn't

1961
02:00:55,050 --> 02:00:59,070
that what it's about? Now you're
all waiting for some news. Even

1962
02:00:59,070 --> 02:01:01,650
Marcy will say, Oh, if a
billionaire wants to support my

1963
02:01:01,650 --> 02:01:05,700
work, fuck you get start
working. Do it, you can do it.

1964
02:01:05,700 --> 02:01:06,990
Now, if you really got guts,

1965
02:01:07,019 --> 02:01:11,099
you this is the slavish
mentality, this is like, I need

1966
02:01:11,099 --> 02:01:14,669
to get a job, I need a job, I
need the affirmation of my slave

1967
02:01:14,669 --> 02:01:17,939
hood, by somebody that has more
money than I do. They've

1968
02:01:17,939 --> 02:01:20,729
achieved this. And so when they
like if you I want to be

1969
02:01:20,729 --> 02:01:25,259
supported by a billionaire, then
I feel that affirmed in my slave

1970
02:01:25,259 --> 02:01:29,039
with this is slave mentality.
And the women that are in the

1971
02:01:29,069 --> 02:01:31,709
newspaper business are just
exhibiting it to an extreme,

1972
02:01:31,709 --> 02:01:33,749
which is one of the reasons by
the way, I think a lot of them

1973
02:01:33,749 --> 02:01:36,869
are out because they couldn't
produce newspapers that people

1974
02:01:36,869 --> 02:01:39,779
wanted to read. There's a lot to
do with it. I mean, these

1975
02:01:39,779 --> 02:01:43,229
newspapers are failing because
they stink. Yeah, they have big

1976
02:01:43,229 --> 02:01:46,349
giant fat newspapers. They're
all about issues that nobody

1977
02:01:46,349 --> 02:01:51,839
gives a crap about, except some
remote group of enclosed kind of

1978
02:01:51,839 --> 02:01:53,369
in these

1979
02:01:53,519 --> 02:01:57,809
get into, you know, what's out.
And here's what you need to you

1980
02:01:57,809 --> 02:02:01,019
need to live a life of poverty
for a while, eat some of your

1981
02:02:01,019 --> 02:02:04,529
possessions like I did. And I
think, John, you certainly went

1982
02:02:04,529 --> 02:02:06,689
through some of that as we
transitioned over the past six

1983
02:02:06,689 --> 02:02:09,509
years. And you'll learn
something, oh, you know what you

1984
02:02:09,509 --> 02:02:13,139
might actually get in touch with
your actual audience. And you'll

1985
02:02:13,139 --> 02:02:15,869
find out what their life is
like. And then when you rise up

1986
02:02:15,869 --> 02:02:18,659
like the phoenix from the acids,
such as the best podcast in the

1987
02:02:18,659 --> 02:02:19,409
universe,

1988
02:02:21,180 --> 02:02:22,740
then then you went straight.

1989
02:02:22,770 --> 02:02:25,530
They thank you then and you know
what it can be done. And you

1990
02:02:25,530 --> 02:02:28,440
know how you do it. You do it
with the people who care about

1991
02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:29,190
what you do.

1992
02:02:30,030 --> 02:02:33,330
I'm gonna show my mood by
donating to no agenda. Imagine

1993
02:02:33,330 --> 02:02:36,030
all the people who could do
that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.

1994
02:02:43,290 --> 02:02:46,650
And let's have a round of
applause for Mr. Segway.

1995
02:02:48,120 --> 02:02:50,880
Thank you very much. I'm very
appreciative to be here.

1996
02:02:51,900 --> 02:02:54,390
Chair we want to thank a few
people who helped us offer show

1997
02:02:54,870 --> 02:02:58,080
618 including Chad Watson is
right at the top of the list

1998
02:02:58,080 --> 02:03:03,900
from Ulis, Texas for $100 Dame
Heather Aronson from San

1999
02:03:03,900 --> 02:03:06,090
Francisco, California.

2000
02:03:06,120 --> 02:03:08,430
I like how she she has a
birthday I think coming up right

2001
02:03:08,460 --> 02:03:10,830
I need your birthday. Something
going on I will be here notice

2002
02:03:10,830 --> 02:03:14,400
this is a dame but I guess the
best way not to get your letter

2003
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:18,390
read on the air is to mail it to
the post office box. Maybe JC D

2004
02:03:18,390 --> 02:03:24,210
was distracted by the kale
erotica cookbook I sent I didn't

2005
02:03:24,210 --> 02:03:27,420
get a birthday shout out I
didn't get karma or my new Dame

2006
02:03:27,420 --> 02:03:31,980
name. I don't remember the note
got lost in the shuffle I have

2007
02:03:31,980 --> 02:03:34,230
no idea. Day wishes Dame

2008
02:03:34,230 --> 02:03:36,060
Heather of the Lost Boys.

2009
02:03:36,210 --> 02:03:41,460
Yes. Nice to meet location
independent Dame which is

2010
02:03:41,460 --> 02:03:42,390
interesting. That means

2011
02:03:42,390 --> 02:03:45,810
she's she's a roamer is a roamer

2012
02:03:48,150 --> 02:03:53,730
now I see her anyway sorry about
whatever it is John's fault

2013
02:03:53,730 --> 02:03:55,350
obviously. Yeah, I

2014
02:03:55,350 --> 02:03:57,780
probably was my fault I get all
these sometimes they have all

2015
02:03:57,780 --> 02:03:59,760
these things happened in the
same day and it gets confused.

2016
02:03:59,760 --> 02:03:59,910
Did

2017
02:03:59,910 --> 02:04:01,740
you see the photo? She said?

2018
02:04:04,710 --> 02:04:05,610
Did I yeah,

2019
02:04:05,640 --> 02:04:07,020
I did. Thank you.

2020
02:04:07,950 --> 02:04:10,980
Oh, you know, it was a photo it
attached. Oh, yeah. No, she's

2021
02:04:11,010 --> 02:04:11,670
gorgeous.

2022
02:04:12,150 --> 02:04:17,160
Of course she she is the dame
Heather veloce boys.

2023
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:25,140
Lost Boys The Lost Boys. Mark
platen camp in Amsterdam 9585.

2024
02:04:26,040 --> 02:04:33,120
Long time stoner Boehner and
first time donor Hey, yo. The

2025
02:04:33,120 --> 02:04:39,390
best podcast a man might do
this. Best podcast in the

2026
02:04:39,390 --> 02:04:43,260
universe is killed many
entertaining hours driving down

2027
02:04:43,260 --> 02:04:47,880
the Basque Country for numerous
surf trips. I'd like to

2028
02:04:47,880 --> 02:04:52,590
contribute the 70 euros I hope
is can be accepted as a stone

2029
02:04:52,590 --> 02:04:57,720
nation in its own right. I would
like a deed douching by Oscar

2030
02:04:57,720 --> 02:05:03,510
from Castro come in Episode 600
and rightfully so, interesting

2031
02:05:03,510 --> 02:05:08,430
topic Google Rick Simpson run
for Curie cure hemp oil and

2032
02:05:08,430 --> 02:05:12,660
cancer. Amazing things are
happening with him man as

2033
02:05:12,660 --> 02:05:16,890
especially hemp oil and treating
various illnesses. Non psycho at

2034
02:05:17,070 --> 02:05:23,010
active industrial hemp and his
cam Madana biscuit are truly

2035
02:05:23,010 --> 02:05:30,330
first aid for the planet and her
inhabitants. Keep up the good

2036
02:05:30,330 --> 02:05:37,980
work. You guys are all school.
Hey, by the way, I know Adam way

2037
02:05:37,980 --> 02:05:42,840
back in his Veronica days with
poofy glam rock or spray can

2038
02:05:42,840 --> 02:05:47,550
hair and lair with Telegraph
newspaper stories about him and

2039
02:05:47,550 --> 02:05:51,540
his helicopter ventures. Can I
get a fuck cancer D douching.

2040
02:05:51,540 --> 02:05:52,620
And a stoner karma

2041
02:05:58,980 --> 02:06:06,750
you've been de Deus. You've got
a little nut Jackson in there.

2042
02:06:06,750 --> 02:06:09,300
10 bucks. That's exactly what he
sounds like. Yeah,

2043
02:06:09,540 --> 02:06:13,290
the Dutch accent though. That's
the you got to do you got to get

2044
02:06:13,290 --> 02:06:15,930
you've got to really vertical on
it. And then when you once you

2045
02:06:15,930 --> 02:06:17,280
have it, then it's really good.

2046
02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:20,820
I will. I will. I'm going to do
that. That's how I got my Indian

2047
02:06:20,910 --> 02:06:25,680
accent down. Eric Schmidt and
Frankfurt Deutschland 7777.

2048
02:06:26,490 --> 02:06:29,820
Finally find time and money to
donate. Good for you. Eric. We

2049
02:06:29,820 --> 02:06:35,280
are exactly donated before gay
by shot Bazian in Irvine,

2050
02:06:35,280 --> 02:06:41,700
California. $70 And we go
downhill fast on this donation

2051
02:06:41,700 --> 02:06:47,850
day. Yeah. Rob Van Dyck in
Herpen Netherlands. Hairpin

2052
02:06:49,080 --> 02:06:53,160
hairpin. I don't know I've never
been I've never heard of Herpen

2053
02:06:53,640 --> 02:06:59,550
Okay. Paul Webb, Twickenham in
UK 3535. Jeff, good old Zachary

2054
02:06:59,550 --> 02:07:02,520
Gil Brecht and Cordova
Tennessee. Double nickels on the

2055
02:07:02,520 --> 02:07:06,450
dime the one and only notice
there's no 6969 is no no, no,

2056
02:07:06,450 --> 02:07:11,250
that's dead. Jeffrey Gerlach,
who's running for Congress? We

2057
02:07:11,250 --> 02:07:14,970
have support him is 5150. Sir
Jeffrey, to you, sir. Sir

2058
02:07:14,970 --> 02:07:17,820
Jeffrey. And he's also got a
he's getting a lot of press.

2059
02:07:17,880 --> 02:07:18,630
It's weird. Yeah.

2060
02:07:18,660 --> 02:07:22,590
Well, no. You know why that is?
It's because of the credit. And

2061
02:07:22,590 --> 02:07:23,160
the title.

2062
02:07:23,580 --> 02:07:29,490
Yeah. It gets attention. Eric
Broun in West St. Paul,

2063
02:07:29,490 --> 02:07:30,210
Minnesota. Can

2064
02:07:30,210 --> 02:07:33,150
you imagine if he gets into?
He's running for senator for

2065
02:07:33,150 --> 02:07:36,810
Congress? Congress. Imagine if
we have one of our own in

2066
02:07:36,810 --> 02:07:37,500
Congress.

2067
02:07:37,950 --> 02:07:41,160
We probably Yeah, yeah. No, you
know what's gonna happen, right?

2068
02:07:42,180 --> 02:07:45,000
We're totally getting on that
gravy train, motherfucker. Oh,

2069
02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:45,720
yeah.

2070
02:07:47,130 --> 02:07:51,030
We're gonna get some. Obama's
says goes. The rest of the

2071
02:07:51,030 --> 02:07:51,510
media.

2072
02:07:51,540 --> 02:07:54,450
That's right. We're getting all
kinds of consulting gigs. We're

2073
02:07:54,450 --> 02:07:55,170
good to go.

2074
02:07:55,470 --> 02:07:58,710
And we're not going to this is
the end for us. Okay, there's a

2075
02:07:58,710 --> 02:08:02,370
$50 donors a tiny empire.com in
Phoenix, Arizona. Michael gates

2076
02:08:02,370 --> 02:08:05,700
in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
Andrew Halverson in Gravenhurst,

2077
02:08:05,700 --> 02:08:10,260
Ontario, Paul groves Parts
Unknown Josh MacDonald and mount

2078
02:08:10,260 --> 02:08:16,890
Waverley, Victoria, Australia.
$50 Mark Railly. In Germantown,

2079
02:08:16,890 --> 02:08:21,930
Maryland, Phillip missin, who's
always in from powers, which is

2080
02:08:21,930 --> 02:08:25,470
pronounced some other way. Told
by like powers. I knew a kid

2081
02:08:25,470 --> 02:08:27,690
with that name, his last name
powers and he call himself

2082
02:08:27,690 --> 02:08:34,590
powers. UK. And then finally a
Bogd in LA Chendo. from Irvine,

2083
02:08:34,590 --> 02:08:40,260
Texas. Yay. Now that we want to
thank all these beautiful people

2084
02:08:40,260 --> 02:08:43,500
for helping us out and show 618
Go to divorce that org slash n

2085
02:08:43,500 --> 02:08:45,510
a. for 619

2086
02:08:45,660 --> 02:08:49,260
is right. We need to we need
some help. And I will point out

2087
02:08:49,260 --> 02:08:55,470
it is now 2:26am doing this. No
we don't no matter what happens.

2088
02:08:55,470 --> 02:08:58,950
We do this. We try to always do
the show. You're going to be in

2089
02:08:58,950 --> 02:09:02,970
Detroit on Thursday. And I will
still be here in Tokyo and in

2090
02:09:02,970 --> 02:09:09,150
fact, we are leaving Friday
morning so I pretty much won't

2091
02:09:09,150 --> 02:09:12,090
sleep I'll go straight from post
because you know I won't be in

2092
02:09:12,090 --> 02:09:13,050
bento five,

2093
02:09:13,290 --> 02:09:17,280
you'll sleep on the train on the
plane. Oh, yeah. On the plane.

2094
02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:17,670
Yeah, that

2095
02:09:17,670 --> 02:09:21,360
coach is really great for six
foot five asleep. Yeah, that

2096
02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:25,710
works really well. That's that's
really Yeah, that's great. Can't

2097
02:09:25,710 --> 02:09:26,130
wait.

2098
02:09:26,550 --> 02:09:28,440
Go into the bathroom, close the
door and fall asleep.

2099
02:09:28,500 --> 02:09:29,070
Okay

2100
02:09:29,130 --> 02:09:32,820
to vorak.org/in a.

2101
02:09:39,750 --> 02:09:42,210
Okay, not quite sure how it
happened. But we have a belated

2102
02:09:42,210 --> 02:09:46,140
birthday. Congratulations to
Dame Heather The Lost Boys who

2103
02:09:46,140 --> 02:09:50,670
celebrated on April 16. So hey,
we're all only a month late but

2104
02:09:50,670 --> 02:09:53,340
it's all John's fault. Happy
birthday to you and Happy

2105
02:09:53,340 --> 02:09:58,920
Birthday to Eric the shill. He's
as old as the hills and that is

2106
02:09:58,920 --> 02:10:01,950
on behalf of Everybody hear the
no agenda family? We do

2107
02:10:01,950 --> 02:10:06,060
appreciate all the work that you
do, Eric, and send yourself a

2108
02:10:06,060 --> 02:10:07,020
nice birthday note.

2109
02:10:11,519 --> 02:10:14,669
Eric failed to mention it was
his birthday. Luckily, I

2110
02:10:14,669 --> 02:10:20,009
remembered because I remember
dates. Well. You are so full of

2111
02:10:20,009 --> 02:10:23,039
crap. And we'll get a kick out
of that.

2112
02:10:24,060 --> 02:10:29,310
Okay, yep. Yeah, the fat they're
not listening. That's true.

2113
02:10:29,310 --> 02:10:32,220
Well, Eric might be. Well, yeah,
just to hear if we mentioned

2114
02:10:32,220 --> 02:10:35,400
him. Maybe. Hey, where's your
sword? That was mine. You got

2115
02:10:35,400 --> 02:10:39,420
your sword somewhere? Wait,
wait, wait. Okay, good. Chris

2116
02:10:39,420 --> 02:10:43,410
Mears, my friend, we throw in
the extra penny for you. So

2117
02:10:43,890 --> 02:10:47,880
we're very, very happy to bring
you into our exclusive club of

2118
02:10:47,880 --> 02:10:51,000
Knights and Dames of the no
agenda round table. So I hereby

2119
02:10:51,030 --> 02:10:56,190
pronounce D and very proudly,
sir. Chris spheres nice. Have an

2120
02:10:56,190 --> 02:10:58,800
origin around him for you my
friend. hookers and blow rent

2121
02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:02,700
poison Chardonnay, whiskey and
wet wipes, Kundalini yoga and

2122
02:11:02,700 --> 02:11:05,940
Jambo bad science and perky
breasts cannabis and Cabernet

2123
02:11:05,940 --> 02:11:10,440
opium and warm orange juice bong
hits and bourbon sparkling cider

2124
02:11:10,440 --> 02:11:13,230
and escorts are in need and make
sure you go to no agenda

2125
02:11:13,230 --> 02:11:17,790
nation.com/rings and pick up
your well deserved ring. That

2126
02:11:17,790 --> 02:11:20,760
rings ring rings Yes. Pick up
your well deserved brain.

2127
02:11:21,330 --> 02:11:23,760
I think our ring I think his
ring I think is one of the two

2128
02:11:23,820 --> 02:11:26,820
whatever the case is we got a
note from our friend in Roanoke

2129
02:11:26,820 --> 02:11:30,840
saying that the rain stick work
they got four inches of rain.

2130
02:11:32,280 --> 02:11:37,920
Unfortunately in but was it is
it Bosnia? Herzegovina? They're

2131
02:11:37,920 --> 02:11:39,000
drowning man.

2132
02:11:39,210 --> 02:11:41,760
Well, I don't know we have any
listeners there to get him

2133
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:45,960
happen. Was it I think it's any
Bosnians listening, give us a

2134
02:11:45,960 --> 02:11:46,320
write.

2135
02:11:46,470 --> 02:11:50,580
It's really sad. It's like four
metres of water or something.

2136
02:11:50,580 --> 02:11:53,370
They're drowning. It's eater.
I'm not kidding. Of course,

2137
02:11:53,370 --> 02:11:59,490
it'll it'll Exactly. Did you see
the Bitcoin stuff that happened?

2138
02:12:01,260 --> 02:12:06,780
Well, no, I do know that Glenn
Beck is all over a bit going now

2139
02:12:06,780 --> 02:12:10,980
and other people and then Halsey
minor, the old founder of CNET

2140
02:12:10,980 --> 02:12:17,460
who went bankrupt by big being a
spendthrift I believe is decided

2141
02:12:17,460 --> 02:12:21,090
to open a bitcoin exchange Yeah,
okay. Well

2142
02:12:22,500 --> 02:12:29,160
so I've been following the the
mount Gox bankruptcy and the

2143
02:12:29,160 --> 02:12:35,040
purchase by the I told you the
Brock pierce the the child star

2144
02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:38,640
who was involved in the Digital
Entertainment Network, den

2145
02:12:39,030 --> 02:12:41,160
and roll are following Yeah, the

2146
02:12:41,160 --> 02:12:45,360
whole la gay scene that was all
kind of weird in those days and

2147
02:12:45,630 --> 02:12:49,200
he's also been named in these
lawsuits with the guy from the

2148
02:12:49,230 --> 02:12:56,340
movie director. This former
child star Brock Pierce, I'm not

2149
02:12:56,340 --> 02:13:00,930
quite sure how it happened. But
all of a sudden, he became the

2150
02:13:02,190 --> 02:13:08,610
the new executive director of
the Bitcoin Foundation, and 10

2151
02:13:08,610 --> 02:13:13,440
members have now quit in disgust
this whole thing is falling

2152
02:13:13,440 --> 02:13:19,920
apart. You know, when you get
the former deputy child star

2153
02:13:19,950 --> 02:13:22,560
from the failed Digital
Entertainment Network under

2154
02:13:22,560 --> 02:13:26,940
allegation of raping young boys,
while he's not the sorry that's

2155
02:13:26,940 --> 02:13:30,090
not true. He's not under any
suspicion of that but he's been

2156
02:13:30,090 --> 02:13:38,220
named in connection with this
becoming the director of I think

2157
02:13:38,220 --> 02:13:41,160
he's not If not the executive
director, director of the of the

2158
02:13:41,160 --> 02:13:44,580
Bitcoin Foundation everyone's
quitting. It's falling apart.

2159
02:13:47,220 --> 02:13:51,180
Well, they they, some by they,
in this case, I believe the

2160
02:13:51,180 --> 02:13:55,470
government decided to put him in
I think he's in some sort of

2161
02:13:55,470 --> 02:13:58,320
like, not complete witness
protection but his assumption he

2162
02:13:58,320 --> 02:14:00,780
did some sort of a deal Yeah,
since some kind of programme for

2163
02:14:00,780 --> 02:14:04,110
sure. I'm sort of programmed
right. They pushed him into this

2164
02:14:04,110 --> 02:14:08,100
because they need somebody that
one of their guys into the head

2165
02:14:08,100 --> 02:14:11,580
of this so they can This is the
catch criminals. I believe they

2166
02:14:11,580 --> 02:14:14,220
want to infiltrate the Bitcoin
community. Oh, I

2167
02:14:14,220 --> 02:14:17,910
think I think they've succeeded.
Well, they're sinking

2168
02:14:17,910 --> 02:14:21,360
the whole thing is the problem.
So it's not where you're, if

2169
02:14:21,360 --> 02:14:23,490
you're going to create a
honeypot, you want it to be what

2170
02:14:23,490 --> 02:14:26,610
it is a honeypot. So people come
in they feel comfortable they do

2171
02:14:26,610 --> 02:14:30,720
these deals, buy and sell drugs
and that you just track them all

2172
02:14:30,720 --> 02:14:33,750
and you got it made and making a
lot easier on yourself but now

2173
02:14:33,750 --> 02:14:36,210
if these guys if you do
something stupid like putting

2174
02:14:36,210 --> 02:14:39,510
this guy's they head of the
Bitcoin Foundation morons.

2175
02:14:40,170 --> 02:14:43,650
You know, there's poorly thought
out. Yeah, let's put him in as

2176
02:14:43,650 --> 02:14:46,890
the head because, you know, he's
like a famous actor, and they'll

2177
02:14:46,890 --> 02:14:48,090
really like that.

2178
02:14:48,180 --> 02:14:55,080
Yeah, the ad the dead Hollywood
thing always works. I had a

2179
02:14:55,080 --> 02:15:00,120
couple clips here from John
Miller, John Miller was the He,

2180
02:15:00,870 --> 02:15:05,430
he worked at the NSA. And then
he became the shill at CBS. And

2181
02:15:05,460 --> 02:15:13,470
famously did the the very weak
softball piece for 60 minutes on

2182
02:15:13,470 --> 02:15:14,130
the NSA,

2183
02:15:14,699 --> 02:15:17,519
static piece of you say, nobody
liked it.

2184
02:15:18,479 --> 02:15:25,499
And then he became the was the
the terrorism strategist or some

2185
02:15:25,529 --> 02:15:28,199
weird title at for the New York
Police Department?

2186
02:15:28,680 --> 02:15:31,350
Right? And they need a man in
there. And then he's the man

2187
02:15:31,379 --> 02:15:35,759
and he is well, he's he says
he's got some interesting things

2188
02:15:35,759 --> 02:15:40,319
to say, which don't quite all
fit with the narrative. And he

2189
02:15:40,319 --> 02:15:43,919
has some, some promotion work
that he's doing on behalf of

2190
02:15:43,919 --> 02:15:47,459
the, probably his former
employers, if not the NSA, then

2191
02:15:47,489 --> 02:15:53,849
surely for the CIA. He was on a
panel. And it was the panel

2192
02:15:53,849 --> 02:15:59,759
title was the changing face of
terrorism. And here, the

2193
02:15:59,759 --> 02:16:05,789
question was posed, what keeps
you up at night? No. It's almost

2194
02:16:05,789 --> 02:16:10,019
like if you were a tree, what
kind of tree would you be? Well,

2195
02:16:10,319 --> 02:16:12,539
John Miller, what keeps you up
at night

2196
02:16:12,570 --> 02:16:16,680
hits me up at night is inspire
magazine goes out to 10s of

2197
02:16:16,680 --> 02:16:19,560
1000s of people who have varying
levels of interest and

2198
02:16:19,560 --> 02:16:20,940
commitment to its content.

2199
02:16:21,000 --> 02:16:25,740
Now, let's just mention here
inspire magazine doesn't go out

2200
02:16:25,740 --> 02:16:30,540
to anybody. It's a PDF that
anyone can download. We're

2201
02:16:30,540 --> 02:16:35,970
pretty sure the CIA publishes
this themselves. But it keeps

2202
02:16:35,970 --> 02:16:39,240
him up at night that this
magazine which I read it, you

2203
02:16:39,240 --> 02:16:43,560
read it, I did not become
radicalised. I did not all of a

2204
02:16:43,560 --> 02:16:46,350
sudden want to create bombs in
the kitchen of my mom's.

2205
02:16:46,559 --> 02:16:50,249
And they can't get any traction
for this magazine. So they keep

2206
02:16:50,249 --> 02:16:51,149
talking about it.

2207
02:16:51,179 --> 02:16:53,099
Ah, but wait, but wait.

2208
02:16:53,400 --> 02:16:56,460
Half of those 10s of 1000s are
law enforcement and intelligence

2209
02:16:56,460 --> 02:17:00,240
officers and reporting. The
other half are reading it saying

2210
02:17:00,720 --> 02:17:04,650
here is a set of instructions
for a pressure cooker bomb, I

2211
02:17:04,650 --> 02:17:07,050
could put that at the Boston
Marathon. I could take it to

2212
02:17:07,050 --> 02:17:09,720
Superbowl Boulevard on Broadway.
And by the

2213
02:17:09,720 --> 02:17:12,570
way, we need we need to point
out that the pressure cooker

2214
02:17:12,570 --> 02:17:18,000
bomb came after the bombing. Not
before. So they were not too

2215
02:17:18,000 --> 02:17:21,240
radicalised into doing this
because of inspiring magazine,

2216
02:17:21,390 --> 02:17:24,540
inspiring magazine jumped on the
bandwagon so to speak.

2217
02:17:24,900 --> 02:17:28,770
Some of them are looking at the
new issue, which has a

2218
02:17:29,190 --> 02:17:32,790
extraordinarily simple recipe,
not for a pressure cooker bomb,

2219
02:17:32,790 --> 02:17:34,230
but for a large vehicle bomb.

2220
02:17:34,469 --> 02:17:38,399
Oh, large vehicle bomb. Thanks
for the tip at home.

2221
02:17:39,030 --> 02:17:46,110
And the Boston Marathon model,
or this RNA of problem is what

2222
02:17:46,110 --> 02:17:50,190
do you do when you're not
dealing with al Qaeda? What do

2223
02:17:50,190 --> 02:17:53,790
you do when you're not dealing
with an al Qaeda affiliate? What

2224
02:17:53,790 --> 02:17:58,050
do you do when you're dealing
with height ism? Al Qaeda isn't?

2225
02:17:59,940 --> 02:18:05,280
It's like, it's like transphobia
I have al Qaeda phobia is what I

2226
02:18:05,280 --> 02:18:05,670
have

2227
02:18:06,030 --> 02:18:09,450
Qaeda ism, they're a native
model,

2228
02:18:10,469 --> 02:18:12,209
which is a movement and a
message.

2229
02:18:12,299 --> 02:18:15,869
It's a movement, it's a message
the message is

2230
02:18:17,940 --> 02:18:23,190
not an organisation that is
spread wide, if not deep. And

2231
02:18:23,190 --> 02:18:26,220
when the conspirators may not be
contacting the network or

2232
02:18:26,220 --> 02:18:28,890
reaching out through the
channels that the US government

2233
02:18:28,890 --> 02:18:31,560
has been very good about
intercepting? What if they're

2234
02:18:31,560 --> 02:18:35,460
just talking to each other? And
how does that give them

2235
02:18:35,460 --> 02:18:39,720
opportunity to fly under your
intelligence radar? And that is

2236
02:18:39,720 --> 02:18:41,820
what keeps me up at night.
Because every night when I go to

2237
02:18:41,820 --> 02:18:45,750
bed, I go down that list and say
what could we have missed today?

2238
02:18:46,410 --> 02:18:51,210
Where did we not have missed
today? Which case that we were

2239
02:18:51,210 --> 02:18:54,690
about to step out of? Are we
going to step out of just you

2240
02:18:54,690 --> 02:18:58,350
know a month too early? Because
we need the resources to start

2241
02:18:58,350 --> 02:19:02,490
the next one. So just not
sleeping that much.

2242
02:19:03,870 --> 02:19:09,510
Not sleeping. So he now he comes
with something that was very

2243
02:19:09,510 --> 02:19:13,470
interesting to me. I did not
know. But I appreciate his promo

2244
02:19:13,470 --> 02:19:15,150
wing. The new magazine

2245
02:19:15,180 --> 02:19:17,580
you know the best predictor of
future behaviour is past

2246
02:19:17,580 --> 02:19:22,170
behaviour. And when you look to
your inspire magazine or you

2247
02:19:22,170 --> 02:19:25,530
look at your Amazon magazine,
which is the same publication

2248
02:19:25,530 --> 02:19:29,280
but from Turkey Taliban. If you
look at the upcoming magazine,

2249
02:19:29,280 --> 02:19:32,850
which we've we haven't seen yet
which is resurgence, which I

2250
02:19:32,850 --> 02:19:34,170
believe will be targeted.

2251
02:19:34,260 --> 02:19:36,120
So so he has not seen

2252
02:19:36,810 --> 02:19:39,750
this Medora thing is Glenn
Greenwald gonna write

2253
02:19:40,020 --> 02:19:43,650
I think it's the first look
first look property. It is the

2254
02:19:43,650 --> 02:19:46,860
resurgence magazine, which we
have not seen yet. However,

2255
02:19:46,950 --> 02:19:49,440
somehow John Miller Newton's
knows all about it.

2256
02:19:49,470 --> 02:19:53,070
We've we haven't seen yet which
is resurgence, which I believe

2257
02:19:53,070 --> 02:19:57,270
will be targeted. Specifically
looking at the market itself to

2258
02:19:57,270 --> 02:19:58,710
African American convert.

2259
02:19:59,040 --> 02:20:02,880
Hey Muhammad Muhammad Muhammad
Muhammad Hey Mohammed. Hey

2260
02:20:02,880 --> 02:20:03,300
Muhammad

2261
02:20:03,330 --> 02:20:04,080
yeah

2262
02:20:10,860 --> 02:20:14,220
hello hello Muhammad. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, hello Mohammed it's

2263
02:20:14,250 --> 02:20:17,790
I always use are you in
publishing? Always this? This

2264
02:20:17,820 --> 02:20:23,040
this? This is the jihadi Joe.
Okay, why we need a new

2265
02:20:23,040 --> 02:20:27,330
magazine? This okay, this this
inspire magazine not working no

2266
02:20:27,330 --> 02:20:27,750
more.

2267
02:20:28,230 --> 02:20:32,190
Oh no we do why Yeah. magazine
we don't know magazine.

2268
02:20:32,910 --> 02:20:34,710
Why do you sound Asian?

2269
02:20:35,220 --> 02:20:35,820
I'm Asian.

2270
02:20:37,560 --> 02:20:41,100
It's too late for this. I can't
do this right now. Let's listen

2271
02:20:41,100 --> 02:20:43,020
to this fine new publication.

2272
02:20:43,140 --> 02:20:47,280
And I say that because it's its
lead off promotional video

2273
02:20:47,700 --> 02:20:48,990
featured Malcolm X.

2274
02:20:49,140 --> 02:20:50,010
Oh, yes.

2275
02:20:51,030 --> 02:20:53,070
Okay. Malcolm X.

2276
02:20:53,310 --> 02:20:55,200
So it's targeted at

2277
02:20:55,230 --> 02:20:58,050
Africans. If I was a member of
the black community, especially

2278
02:20:58,050 --> 02:21:02,550
the Black might be outraged. I
would be so hurt by it. I would

2279
02:21:02,550 --> 02:21:06,030
be. Yeah, it's just as not
right.

2280
02:21:06,780 --> 02:21:10,740
Which I believe will be
targeted. Specifically, looking

2281
02:21:10,740 --> 02:21:13,380
at the market itself to African
American converts,

2282
02:21:13,560 --> 02:21:19,050
African American converts.
African American convert

2283
02:21:19,680 --> 02:21:22,290
how many African American
terrorists have we seen so far?

2284
02:21:22,320 --> 02:21:23,130
Yeah, but wait,

2285
02:21:23,910 --> 02:21:30,510
this well, zero. But now this is
so disgusting. What he is now

2286
02:21:30,510 --> 02:21:35,580
saying. He's saying yeah, the
African Americans are gonna get

2287
02:21:35,610 --> 02:21:37,500
self radicalised because

2288
02:21:37,920 --> 02:21:44,070
Malcolm X set them up let's get
Malcolm X now the other day and

2289
02:21:44,640 --> 02:21:46,920
get seem to be pretty white.
Yeah,

2290
02:21:47,190 --> 02:21:51,150
we need some black he's in
there. I know. Let's do a video

2291
02:21:51,210 --> 02:21:52,650
oh look, here's the video.

2292
02:21:56,370 --> 02:22:02,070
If you and I would just realised
once we learned that once we

2293
02:22:02,070 --> 02:22:06,750
learn to talk the language that
they understand they understand

2294
02:22:09,600 --> 02:22:15,600
they will they will get the
point get the point you can ever

2295
02:22:15,600 --> 02:22:17,670
reach a man if you don't speak
his language.

2296
02:22:18,810 --> 02:22:22,380
This is the actual audio track
from the research and

2297
02:22:23,010 --> 02:22:25,680
languages of his cocking a gun
or shooting something

2298
02:22:25,680 --> 02:22:29,670
when you see nothing but
shooting and fighting and

2299
02:22:29,670 --> 02:22:39,030
killing speaks the language of
course you can come in when you

2300
02:22:39,060 --> 02:22:44,820
break you into as he has been
doing find out what does this

2301
02:22:44,820 --> 02:22:48,540
mean? And once you know his
language and then how to speak

2302
02:22:48,540 --> 02:22:52,380
his language, you get the point
and you get the point. They only

2303
02:22:52,380 --> 02:22:58,470
know one language to rapid fire
explosions at the finish line

2304
02:22:58,920 --> 02:23:02,460
learn the language that they
understand. Understand, and then

2305
02:23:02,460 --> 02:23:07,950
when they come up on our
doorstep to talk we can talk

2306
02:23:17,220 --> 02:23:21,240
so there you go. What was that?
That was the only Ali Akbar

2307
02:23:21,270 --> 02:23:21,660
Yeah,

2308
02:23:21,810 --> 02:23:24,480
so the if you have to cut it,
you have to kind of see the

2309
02:23:24,480 --> 02:23:26,940
videos in the show notes of
course, bad enough with the

2310
02:23:26,940 --> 02:23:33,150
audio 618 dot na shownotes.com
So the CIA who create these

2311
02:23:33,330 --> 02:23:36,630
these publications and put
together this video, have now

2312
02:23:36,630 --> 02:23:41,370
determined that we are going to
turn African Americans ie the

2313
02:23:41,370 --> 02:23:45,810
black people of North America
into Muslim terrorists who will

2314
02:23:45,810 --> 02:23:49,020
start blowing stuff up and
yelling Allahu Akbar.

2315
02:23:49,800 --> 02:23:54,210
And I say that because it's its
lead off promotional video

2316
02:23:54,600 --> 02:23:59,940
featured Malcolm X they're gonna
be talking the key to terrorism

2317
02:23:59,940 --> 02:24:00,810
if you know any

2318
02:24:00,810 --> 02:24:04,440
of this because he's part of the
team that put it together once

2319
02:24:04,440 --> 02:24:05,280
you in the meeting.

2320
02:24:05,640 --> 02:24:08,520
Doesn't it make nothing but
since the every by our isn't it

2321
02:24:08,520 --> 02:24:11,250
transparent to everybody that
this is a scam.

2322
02:24:12,750 --> 02:24:16,890
The old al Qaeda, which is
organising a complex two and a

2323
02:24:16,890 --> 02:24:20,850
half year planning art for
$500,000 pot to collapse the

2324
02:24:20,850 --> 02:24:24,720
World Trade Centre is really the
opposite should be low tech

2325
02:24:24,990 --> 02:24:27,510
should be low cost should be
high yield,

2326
02:24:27,930 --> 02:24:31,410
low cost, low tech high yield

2327
02:24:31,470 --> 02:24:34,680
and the examples of that that
apply to a place like Los

2328
02:24:34,680 --> 02:24:37,350
Angeles or New York or anywhere
in between are the Mumbai

2329
02:24:37,350 --> 02:24:41,610
attacks. The active shooter
model, the active shooter model

2330
02:24:41,610 --> 02:24:45,480
when you combine it with fire,
you saw that used effectively by

2331
02:24:45,480 --> 02:24:48,870
the terrorists in Mumbai you saw
it used again in Benghazi you'll

2332
02:24:48,870 --> 02:24:53,430
see it used again elsewhere. And
all of these things are within

2333
02:24:53,430 --> 02:24:53,940
reach.

2334
02:24:55,200 --> 02:24:59,040
Do we play the clip I had I
don't remember who we played it.

2335
02:24:59,400 --> 02:25:05,550
Of the Love the the testing
going on at the Hayward mall in

2336
02:25:05,550 --> 02:25:10,230
Kenya? No in California down
here like, oh, Hayward,

2337
02:25:10,230 --> 02:25:12,270
California. No, no, I

2338
02:25:12,270 --> 02:25:13,200
don't think we played that.

2339
02:25:13,710 --> 02:25:17,490
I will have to put that in the
next show because it's one more

2340
02:25:17,490 --> 02:25:21,060
clip. It was. Yeah, we didn't
play it. They were doing these

2341
02:25:21,060 --> 02:25:24,990
exercises. There was a kicker in
there. Actually, I wish I had

2342
02:25:24,990 --> 02:25:28,950
that this was a while back, but
exactly what he said. That's

2343
02:25:28,950 --> 02:25:32,880
what they're working on. And
they have when I play this clip

2344
02:25:32,880 --> 02:25:37,230
of you too much, you can't get
it from the May 11 show. Because

2345
02:25:37,230 --> 02:25:40,890
it has a little interesting at
the end edge. That is exactly

2346
02:25:40,890 --> 02:25:41,910
what he's talking about.

2347
02:25:42,390 --> 02:25:45,930
Well, just to make it a little
nuttier. I have one more clip by

2348
02:25:45,930 --> 02:25:49,740
this douche NorCal. And when you
listen to this, he's he's

2349
02:25:49,740 --> 02:25:56,310
talking about terrorism events,
like a movie producer slash

2350
02:25:56,310 --> 02:26:04,110
director. As if it really is a
movie, that listen, we obsess.

2351
02:26:04,620 --> 02:26:07,710
They'll attack the water supply
the water, the food supply,

2352
02:26:07,710 --> 02:26:11,130
they'll poison the milk in the
cows, they'll do a biological.

2353
02:26:13,020 --> 02:26:17,430
They sit around up at night,
while we're tossing and turning

2354
02:26:17,430 --> 02:26:19,020
thinking about what they're
thinking and they're thinking

2355
02:26:19,020 --> 02:26:24,480
about I need to kill people. I
need to have the streets running

2356
02:26:24,480 --> 02:26:26,910
with blood. I need people
running and screaming I need it

2357
02:26:26,910 --> 02:26:30,960
on TV. I'm not worried about
causing a blackout. I need

2358
02:26:30,960 --> 02:26:36,480
people to die. Terrorism is
theatre. It requires a

2359
02:26:36,480 --> 02:26:40,380
storyline. It needs a big
dramatic scene. It needs that

2360
02:26:40,380 --> 02:26:44,850
story arc and the big scene. The
money shot involves blood and

2361
02:26:44,850 --> 02:26:47,760
bodies. And that's what they're
thinking about. And thinking

2362
02:26:47,760 --> 02:26:48,450
about the Great.

2363
02:26:48,960 --> 02:26:53,310
Well, this is very interesting.
So this cyber, you have

2364
02:26:53,310 --> 02:26:58,020
recorded a psychopath. Yes, yes.

2365
02:26:59,580 --> 02:27:03,360
And he's essentially saying that
all of this cyber stuff, we

2366
02:27:03,360 --> 02:27:05,460
don't have to worry about it
because these guys are only out

2367
02:27:05,460 --> 02:27:10,200
for blood. And that's all they
do at night is like, Hey, can I

2368
02:27:10,200 --> 02:27:12,870
come over to your house and
we'll strategize and some blood

2369
02:27:15,660 --> 02:27:18,570
it goes contract contract
everything.

2370
02:27:19,200 --> 02:27:23,070
Definitely goes contrary to the
money making ideas of Richard

2371
02:27:23,070 --> 02:27:24,960
Clarke and some of these other
characters

2372
02:27:24,990 --> 02:27:25,800
you could say Deke

2373
02:27:26,490 --> 02:27:31,080
Deke well, he could they call
him Dick Clark. Yeah, yeah.

2374
02:27:31,410 --> 02:27:35,340
Anyway, every time I did clock I
think the dead gave us not this

2375
02:27:35,340 --> 02:27:36,360
way. I like Richard

2376
02:27:36,390 --> 02:27:38,850
by the way. Do you know that
Casey Casey has gone missing?

2377
02:27:39,120 --> 02:27:41,610
He's disappeared from the face
of the earth apparently or he's

2378
02:27:41,610 --> 02:27:44,820
been locked in a closet by his
sister whoever Yes. holding him

2379
02:27:44,820 --> 02:27:45,390
hostage. That's

2380
02:27:45,390 --> 02:27:47,250
weird man or his wife. I

2381
02:27:47,250 --> 02:27:48,780
guess is we've got a crazy wife.

2382
02:27:49,200 --> 02:27:52,860
That's yeah. Didn't have the
really hot wife like young

2383
02:27:52,860 --> 02:27:54,120
blonde with the weird hair.

2384
02:27:54,150 --> 02:27:57,390
Yeah, who was Wasn't she an
actress or something?

2385
02:27:57,390 --> 02:27:59,310
She's still married to him. And
she's the one that locked him

2386
02:27:59,310 --> 02:28:00,810
up. Maybe a guy could be wrong.

2387
02:28:01,110 --> 02:28:05,490
Freaky. I could happen to me, by
the way. Oh, yeah. I'm

2388
02:28:05,490 --> 02:28:06,120
expecting it.

2389
02:28:08,100 --> 02:28:09,900
It's gonna happen to me at any
moment.

2390
02:28:15,690 --> 02:28:21,960
Resources, no entry. Second half
of the second

2391
02:28:21,960 --> 02:28:24,330
half of show. Oh, which we
rarely

2392
02:28:24,330 --> 02:28:30,660
do. Yes. Well, interesting clip
came my way. Following the news

2393
02:28:30,660 --> 02:28:35,910
that the HAARP array in Alaska
is closing down. Yep, shutting

2394
02:28:35,910 --> 02:28:39,930
it down, shutting her down and
HAARP Of course, long thought to

2395
02:28:39,930 --> 02:28:46,920
be a weather manipulation
station. A system to fry people

2396
02:28:47,460 --> 02:28:52,770
at great distance. Not saying I
don't believe in that. David

2397
02:28:52,770 --> 02:28:55,170
Walker, Deputy Assistant
Secretary of the Air Force

2398
02:28:55,530 --> 02:28:58,380
in charge, get the right sound
effect mechanism to keep

2399
02:28:58,380 --> 02:28:58,740
talking.

2400
02:28:59,610 --> 02:29:02,430
David Walker, Deputy Assistant
Secretary of the Air Force

2401
02:29:05,310 --> 02:29:07,410
you're gonna want it you'll do
it you can do that after you

2402
02:29:07,440 --> 02:29:11,430
listen to the clip is very
short. He is going to tell us

2403
02:29:11,550 --> 02:29:15,870
why harp is no longer necessary.
Do you have any idea why harp is

2404
02:29:15,870 --> 02:29:16,950
no longer necessary job

2405
02:29:17,100 --> 02:29:20,760
because they cost too much too
expensive. Your $4 million

2406
02:29:21,240 --> 02:29:24,420
brings value out of harp in the
past or you took over from the

2407
02:29:24,420 --> 02:29:27,600
Navy and managed it and actually
did a number of experiment

2408
02:29:27,600 --> 02:29:31,290
campaigns up there and have
finished our work that we're

2409
02:29:31,320 --> 02:29:35,640
interested in doing up there.
We've moved on to other ways of

2410
02:29:35,940 --> 02:29:38,700
managing the ionosphere, which
the heart was really designed to

2411
02:29:38,700 --> 02:29:42,330
do is to inject energy into the
ionosphere be able to actually

2412
02:29:42,330 --> 02:29:42,960
control it

2413
02:29:46,530 --> 02:29:49,260
what happens when you control
the ionosphere?

2414
02:29:51,810 --> 02:29:55,320
Well, there's a couple of things
about this. One is that they

2415
02:29:55,710 --> 02:30:01,770
they haven't got it down yet.
And on apparently A June 15

2416
02:30:01,800 --> 02:30:06,150
They're going to do their last
experiment. June 15 coincides

2417
02:30:06,150 --> 02:30:06,780
six

2418
02:30:06,780 --> 02:30:09,150
week cycles X weeks

2419
02:30:09,360 --> 02:30:13,410
cycle Nice. So there you have it

2420
02:30:13,529 --> 02:30:18,419
now. Now this is being touted in
the circles in which I often

2421
02:30:18,419 --> 02:30:22,709
travel as proof that there's
weather manipulation going on

2422
02:30:22,709 --> 02:30:26,549
but quite honestly I have to say
controlling the ionosphere is

2423
02:30:26,549 --> 02:30:31,529
really certainly what I think it
was initially meant for was

2424
02:30:32,459 --> 02:30:37,799
controlling radio waves but also
creating plasma and all kinds of

2425
02:30:37,829 --> 02:30:40,889
funky stuff but I find it
interesting that he says no we

2426
02:30:40,889 --> 02:30:43,589
have oh we have all these other
ways of doing it now this is old

2427
02:30:43,589 --> 02:30:47,999
school this is old technology
all you heart people T directed

2428
02:30:47,999 --> 02:30:53,129
energy weapons people it's hard
stuff is that's like stone age.

2429
02:30:53,129 --> 02:30:56,009
That's like ham radio to our
internet

2430
02:30:59,370 --> 02:31:01,920
Yeah, well there you have it. I
think that's a good summary

2431
02:31:01,950 --> 02:31:07,890
June 15 15th Very interesting.
We will definitely mark that

2432
02:31:07,890 --> 02:31:08,250
down.

2433
02:31:09,000 --> 02:31:11,190
We'll be on the maybe we're
gonna have the big event they

2434
02:31:11,190 --> 02:31:13,950
have to have one a good one a
year as opposed to these you

2435
02:31:13,950 --> 02:31:18,060
know some dipshit you know plan
to Yeah, dial the phone number

2436
02:31:18,060 --> 02:31:18,930
and blow up the bank

2437
02:31:18,960 --> 02:31:22,500
it is time I agree. Okay

2438
02:31:24,090 --> 02:31:26,790
well things I want to get out of
here Yeah. Which is this stuff

2439
02:31:26,790 --> 02:31:29,100
apparently China's having
nothing but labour problems and

2440
02:31:29,100 --> 02:31:32,310
this is going to get worse and
worse. And I want to play two

2441
02:31:32,310 --> 02:31:36,420
clips one is the China's
strikers hilarious clip because

2442
02:31:36,420 --> 02:31:40,710
apparently their labour problems
are essentially the following I

2443
02:31:40,740 --> 02:31:44,250
you hire me twice we sign a
contract that you're going to

2444
02:31:44,250 --> 02:31:48,120
pay me this much. I work my ass
off for you working 16 hours a

2445
02:31:48,120 --> 02:31:52,770
day day after day and you don't
pay me that's essentially the

2446
02:31:53,100 --> 02:31:55,680
bitch that they have I wouldn't
know we we don't get paid. This

2447
02:31:55,680 --> 02:31:58,740
is being you know this is bad
but play the first clip which is

2448
02:31:59,670 --> 02:32:01,620
China's strikers hilarious.

2449
02:32:02,100 --> 02:32:05,310
And China is poised to overtake
the US as the world's largest

2450
02:32:05,310 --> 02:32:08,100
economy this year. And one
reason for that success has been

2451
02:32:08,100 --> 02:32:11,100
an endless supply of cheap
labour over there. Whoo.

2452
02:32:11,280 --> 02:32:13,590
What outfit is claiming this.

2453
02:32:15,630 --> 02:32:19,620
Van cat bank had past decades,
Chinese workers doing long hours

2454
02:32:19,620 --> 02:32:23,400
for little pay, but things might
be about to change. 10s of 1000s

2455
02:32:23,400 --> 02:32:26,400
of workers went on strike last
month in Guangdong Province

2456
02:32:26,400 --> 02:32:29,340
demanding better working
conditions. And that's a new

2457
02:32:29,340 --> 02:32:32,490
trend in a region that sometimes
referred to as the world's

2458
02:32:32,490 --> 02:32:35,700
factory. Don't get here with
Clemens de Bucha and trolley

2459
02:32:35,700 --> 02:32:36,570
Wang reports.

2460
02:32:38,220 --> 02:32:42,120
The guards still keep a watchful
eye but on the surface all seems

2461
02:32:42,120 --> 02:32:46,650
back to normal at you UN's huge
factory complex in Dongguan, no

2462
02:32:46,650 --> 02:32:50,070
trace of the strikes which began
in April to demand welfare

2463
02:32:50,070 --> 02:32:53,310
payments from the firm which
makes shoes for brands including

2464
02:32:53,310 --> 02:32:58,140
Nike, Adidas, and Puma. After
two weeks of tension and dozens

2465
02:32:58,140 --> 02:33:01,350
of arrests, the authorities
ordered the strikers back to

2466
02:33:01,350 --> 02:33:05,670
work, but many seem unconvinced
by their bosses pledged to repay

2467
02:33:05,670 --> 02:33:06,540
what they owed.

2468
02:33:07,500 --> 02:33:11,040
We're not satisfied, but we have
no choice. You have to go back

2469
02:33:11,040 --> 02:33:15,330
to work. If we don't go on
strike, how will we ever get

2470
02:33:15,330 --> 02:33:15,840
people where

2471
02:33:18,900 --> 02:33:21,390
that was our only demand that
they meet the terms of our

2472
02:33:21,390 --> 02:33:24,480
contract and pay or Social
Security. Interesting.

2473
02:33:25,530 --> 02:33:27,990
So this is the kind of
management that goes on in

2474
02:33:27,990 --> 02:33:30,570
China, where we just don't ever
talk about this sort of thing.

2475
02:33:30,570 --> 02:33:33,870
But but I got the bigger kick
out of this guy. The next clip

2476
02:33:33,870 --> 02:33:36,330
was his boss in China. This is
the guy who runs one of the

2477
02:33:36,330 --> 02:33:39,930
factors. And don't forget to all
that out of the blue is in the

2478
02:33:39,930 --> 02:33:44,580
last very few years, over 340
billionaires have been minted in

2479
02:33:44,580 --> 02:33:48,210
China, because they don't pay
people they're crooked. And this

2480
02:33:48,210 --> 02:33:52,590
guy essentially admits it. He's
one of the managers of one of

2481
02:33:52,590 --> 02:33:55,440
these factories and he says, you
know, if we actually had to pay

2482
02:33:55,440 --> 02:33:57,060
these people, we'd go broke.

2483
02:33:57,840 --> 02:34:00,510
It's getting increasingly
difficult to recruit workers,

2484
02:34:00,540 --> 02:34:02,460
more and more of them are
demanding to check their

2485
02:34:02,460 --> 02:34:06,330
contracts to make sure they get
complete social security. So we

2486
02:34:06,330 --> 02:34:09,570
really have to respect them
labour law. And with rising

2487
02:34:09,570 --> 02:34:13,260
wages and production costs, some
bosses me included, are thinking

2488
02:34:13,260 --> 02:34:15,390
of moving out into Vietnam or
Cambodia.

2489
02:34:17,670 --> 02:34:21,780
Three decades after its industry
first took off shinjin is one of

2490
02:34:21,780 --> 02:34:26,040
China's four richest cities. As
production costs rise. It's

2491
02:34:26,040 --> 02:34:29,070
aiming to focus more on High
Tech High Value Added

2492
02:34:29,070 --> 02:34:32,160
industries, like electronics,
telecommunications and

2493
02:34:32,160 --> 02:34:36,120
biotechnology, and to depend
less on an increasingly savvy

2494
02:34:36,120 --> 02:34:36,990
labour force.

2495
02:34:39,660 --> 02:34:41,760
Yeah, well enjoy your iPhone.

2496
02:34:42,810 --> 02:34:46,020
Joy, enjoy the rest of your day.
I thought that clip and

2497
02:34:46,020 --> 02:34:49,500
especially they go to Vietnam,
where they're going to run into

2498
02:34:49,500 --> 02:34:53,610
a very intelligent population
97% literacy rate much higher

2499
02:34:53,610 --> 02:34:54,150
than ours here

2500
02:34:54,150 --> 02:34:57,240
in the United States economy in
Vietnam is booming.

2501
02:34:57,600 --> 02:35:00,690
Yeah, so Vietnam out Cambodia. I
can see that

2502
02:35:00,720 --> 02:35:04,110
right, right. Well, Cambodia has
got problems.

2503
02:35:04,500 --> 02:35:07,230
Now the Chinese can deal with it
or maybe just move all their

2504
02:35:07,770 --> 02:35:09,240
facilities to Africa.

2505
02:35:09,270 --> 02:35:09,990
There you go.

2506
02:35:10,830 --> 02:35:12,270
Get people to work cheap there.

2507
02:35:12,420 --> 02:35:17,280
Alright, let me wrap up my end
with one email and one clip.

2508
02:35:17,880 --> 02:35:23,520
Regarding Nigeria. Of course,
people who listen to the show

2509
02:35:23,520 --> 02:35:27,120
know our stance on Nigeria. Very
interesting to see that they've

2510
02:35:27,120 --> 02:35:31,650
sent over accountants to go and
find the $49.6 billion that has

2511
02:35:31,650 --> 02:35:35,550
gone missing from the National
Nigerian Petroleum Corporation a

2512
02:35:35,550 --> 02:35:41,820
joint venture with the shell and
Chevron. Oops, sorry, right.

2513
02:35:41,820 --> 02:35:43,020
Yeah, Royal Dutch Shell and
Chevron.

2514
02:35:43,080 --> 02:35:45,960
If this is the email, I think
you're going to read. It's a

2515
02:35:45,960 --> 02:35:46,410
beauty

2516
02:35:47,039 --> 02:35:52,229
from Hector. Subject, Boko
Haram. I like your guys show and

2517
02:35:52,229 --> 02:35:55,439
everything, but I just don't see
your angle of how you can

2518
02:35:55,439 --> 02:35:59,969
confidently just call this Boko
Haram thing a hoax. Literally,

2519
02:35:59,969 --> 02:36:01,949
from what I've heard, you seem
to think there isn't much

2520
02:36:01,949 --> 02:36:04,739
foliage or building so it
couldn't happen? Well, that

2521
02:36:04,739 --> 02:36:07,109
parents should be able to pick
their children out of a crowd

2522
02:36:07,109 --> 02:36:09,989
quicker, honestly, come with
something better because this is

2523
02:36:09,989 --> 02:36:12,959
one of the worst analysis or
justification for a hoax I've

2524
02:36:12,989 --> 02:36:17,369
ever heard from you guys. PS
it's also getting a bit too

2525
02:36:17,399 --> 02:36:20,969
obvious that whenever the
whatever country Adam happens to

2526
02:36:20,969 --> 02:36:24,569
pop into is 100% pristine, but
when you return home, everything

2527
02:36:24,569 --> 02:36:27,719
is awful. I've been to many
other airports all over the

2528
02:36:27,719 --> 02:36:30,089
world and they're very similar.
The fact that you try to paint

2529
02:36:30,089 --> 02:36:32,819
every security worker in foreign
airports is nice than every

2530
02:36:32,819 --> 02:36:35,039
security work in the US is a
douche just makes you look

2531
02:36:35,039 --> 02:36:40,079
biassed. Yeah. Well, it's funny
because my wife doesn't get

2532
02:36:40,079 --> 02:36:41,369
detained in other countries.

2533
02:36:43,830 --> 02:36:47,280
I love that letter it guys
great. is good. Keep it up. He

2534
02:36:47,280 --> 02:36:50,310
doesn't listen to the show other
than tell these guys of course

2535
02:36:50,310 --> 02:36:53,520
not because our expositions
where we develop these these

2536
02:36:53,520 --> 02:36:58,140
theses. It really is generally
two or three shows of

2537
02:36:58,200 --> 02:37:02,280
an ember then information come
from people who have been there

2538
02:37:02,280 --> 02:37:03,960
and give us information. We

2539
02:37:03,960 --> 02:37:07,530
have boots on the ground
everywhere. Yes.

2540
02:37:08,010 --> 02:37:13,140
So now I have a quick clip from
Alice friend is her name. And

2541
02:37:13,500 --> 02:37:21,240
she Boko Haram, as you know,
it's this. So here's another

2542
02:37:21,240 --> 02:37:25,110
little data point for you about
the scam. Why? And we asked this

2543
02:37:25,110 --> 02:37:27,750
the minute that happened, why
haven't we had Britain, you

2544
02:37:27,750 --> 02:37:30,510
know, bring back our boys who
were burned in their dorm rooms

2545
02:37:30,510 --> 02:37:34,920
or, you know, this has been
going on for years. And Boko

2546
02:37:34,920 --> 02:37:38,550
Haram, of course, has been on
the payroll. That's why they've

2547
02:37:38,550 --> 02:37:44,040
been paid to do crap. And the MS
friend is going to tell us

2548
02:37:44,040 --> 02:37:47,220
exactly what this is really
about. What is Boko Haram really

2549
02:37:47,220 --> 02:37:48,060
fighting? John?

2550
02:37:50,130 --> 02:37:51,360
I have no idea.

2551
02:37:51,390 --> 02:37:54,390
Mr. Chairman, the threat to
Nigeria from Boko Haram has

2552
02:37:54,390 --> 02:37:59,100
grown over the past five years,
and mutates day by day extending

2553
02:37:59,100 --> 02:38:02,490
its reach increasing the
sophistication and lethality of

2554
02:38:02,490 --> 02:38:06,780
its attacks, and growing its
military capacity. These most

2555
02:38:06,780 --> 02:38:10,410
recent attacks are especially
unconscionable, unconscionable

2556
02:38:10,410 --> 02:38:13,770
because they were perpetrated
against innocent girls. And

2557
02:38:13,770 --> 02:38:16,320
because of the sheer scale of
the attack and Schubach.

2558
02:38:16,920 --> 02:38:20,460
Unfortunately, these kidnappings
are not our only the most recent

2559
02:38:20,460 --> 02:38:24,120
outrages and a growing portfolio
of attacks perpetrated by Boko

2560
02:38:24,120 --> 02:38:27,180
Haram and its war against
education. Okay.

2561
02:38:31,110 --> 02:38:33,150
It's the war against education.

2562
02:38:33,960 --> 02:38:40,680
This is the one that the one
that Michelle brought up, no

2563
02:38:40,680 --> 02:38:43,410
reports from coming out of the
European news sources have said

2564
02:38:43,410 --> 02:38:47,100
this ever No. Michelle Obama's
the first one which we had the

2565
02:38:47,100 --> 02:38:50,610
clip of her saying it and we
identified it because it's part

2566
02:38:50,610 --> 02:38:54,870
of the agenda. The Obama agenda
is an indication of the screw up

2567
02:38:54,870 --> 02:38:58,170
a common good common core work
and which we haven't discussed

2568
02:38:58,170 --> 02:39:01,980
enough. And so now that she
drops his bomb, who was that

2569
02:39:01,980 --> 02:39:03,420
woman who were where she
testified?

2570
02:39:03,449 --> 02:39:07,259
He was in Congress and she has
worked for the Department of

2571
02:39:07,259 --> 02:39:09,809
Defence. She works with the
Pentagon. Now, okay, so

2572
02:39:09,810 --> 02:39:15,750
she's just part of the whole
she's part of a. That's okay.

2573
02:39:15,750 --> 02:39:19,230
I'm gonna say You know what? I
liked that clip so much because

2574
02:39:19,230 --> 02:39:22,410
it caught me off guard that you
do get a clip of the day we have

2575
02:39:22,410 --> 02:39:23,070
we are overdue.

2576
02:39:23,100 --> 02:39:25,740
Wow. That's very kind. I don't
know if I deserve it, but I'll

2577
02:39:25,740 --> 02:39:33,240
take it. Well, with that, it
being almost 3am What do you

2578
02:39:33,240 --> 02:39:33,630
say?

2579
02:39:34,050 --> 02:39:35,310
I think we should close shop.

2580
02:39:36,840 --> 02:39:40,410
That's right. Well, we hope you
enjoyed the value that we

2581
02:39:40,410 --> 02:39:44,340
provided for you. And we've got
our little rap song coming up

2582
02:39:44,340 --> 02:39:48,300
here as promised at the very end
of the show. And we'd love to

2583
02:39:48,300 --> 02:39:54,210
see your support. DeVore
act.org/and A. As Thursday, John

2584
02:39:54,210 --> 02:40:01,650
will be in the Motor City,
Detroit depressing people And I

2585
02:40:01,650 --> 02:40:07,830
will be still in Tokyo indeed on
the cusp of the eve of our

2586
02:40:08,130 --> 02:40:13,200
departure back home to no doubt
another fine incarceration

2587
02:40:13,200 --> 02:40:18,720
moments of the lovely Miss
Mickey so we're that's coming to

2588
02:40:18,720 --> 02:40:24,870
you from the Hot Pockets wasabi
love hotel here in Tokyo in the

2589
02:40:24,870 --> 02:40:26,400
morning everybody I'm Adam curry

2590
02:40:26,609 --> 02:40:31,049
and from Northern Silicon Valley
we're I read and I'm gonna start

2591
02:40:31,049 --> 02:40:32,459
packing I'm John C. Dvorak

2592
02:40:32,489 --> 02:40:38,279
we will be back on Thursday
right here on Noah agenda

2593
02:41:01,620 --> 02:41:05,880
got no agenda when it comes to
the distracts rapid rails no

2594
02:41:05,880 --> 02:41:10,470
conspiracy theory of facts let
them do the research back it

2595
02:41:10,470 --> 02:41:15,210
with some C span expose the
memes wants you back to you as

2596
02:41:15,210 --> 02:41:19,680
they bless you with TSA is
grabbing ball sack on the back

2597
02:41:19,740 --> 02:41:23,460
to make your flight good it's
still security they say just a

2598
02:41:23,460 --> 02:41:28,140
small gift just civil liberties
can't get away they think a

2599
02:41:28,140 --> 02:41:33,810
paranoid paranoid paranoid cuz
they don't like what I'm saying

2600
02:41:33,930 --> 02:41:38,430
they think I'm paranoid they
think they think I'm paranoid

2601
02:41:38,430 --> 02:41:41,670
cuz they don't like what I'm
saying they think I'm paranoid

2602
02:41:41,760 --> 02:41:45,990
you think I'm paranoid paranoid
cuz they don't like what I'm

2603
02:41:45,990 --> 02:41:46,410
saying

2604
02:41:53,100 --> 02:41:57,390
to the resources it shifts at
sea in the morning at Korea a

2605
02:41:57,390 --> 02:42:02,640
man shall see a former look
within the mouth and I hit him

2606
02:42:02,640 --> 02:42:06,060
in the mouth. Listen to what I'm
talking about. Don't let your

2607
02:42:06,060 --> 02:42:09,870
free country code because you
want to give it a fast and

2608
02:42:09,870 --> 02:42:14,490
reacted to slow spending all our
money in the land with a puppy

2609
02:42:15,090 --> 02:42:19,530
bring it back and some hair well
man you know I think a paranoid

2610
02:42:20,310 --> 02:42:25,950
paranoid paranoid cuz they don't
like what I'm saying. Paranoid

2611
02:42:26,040 --> 02:42:29,820
they think they think I'm
paranoid cuz they don't like

2612
02:42:29,820 --> 02:42:35,340
what I'm saying they think you
think are paranoid? Paranoid

2613
02:42:35,340 --> 02:42:45,720
because they don't like what I'm
saying they don't worry. If you

2614
02:42:45,720 --> 02:42:46,440
see

2615
02:42:46,440 --> 02:42:55,860
something, say something.
borak.org/n A