I'm going to put on the top of the Kremlin. This is the voice
of Russia. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak
and Sunday May 18 2014. It's time for your Gitmo nation media
assassination episode 618. This is no agenda still coming to you
from the future here in the hot pocket. Wasabi tour love hotel
in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
and stepping all over him because I have to because of the
latency. I'm John C. Dvorak. Raglan Buzzkill.
Wow, nailed it. It was so tight. You couldn't you could not fit a
needle in between us.
Even though there's a tonne of late I started talking on the
word curry. Yeah, I'm, as soon as you said that.
Yeah. And then And what's really interesting is, is we can we can
do a half hour pre show getting ready and the minute we start,
then it ends the whole Skype connection falls apart. Yeah.
It's really unbelievable. It's it's almost it's almost unfair.
What? Ah, that's okay. Try again. Just keep going. It seems
Hey, I
just got an internet connection. Problem error.
Okay, so I thought so I thought, I'm looking. I've got Skype on
Skype. Yeah. But it's got to be you. Why? Because, you know, I'm
in Japan, where everything is awesome.
Man. Oh, yes. Right. You're on just ridiculous high bandwidth
they have over there in Asia. Yeah.
Well, I'm looking at the ping times and everything's okay. And
it's just I don't know. You're on your regular connection.
Yeah, yeah. I got one. Wow, that might be interesting to try.
That will maybe later. Anyway, it is. What is it? 19 minutes
past midnight here in in Tokyo. And it is episode 618 of the
best podcast in the universe trying our best to keep it all
together. And you are the it's our Yeah, you're
in the morning. Yeah. Which is fine. It's not that late, but I
usually do the pre show in the morning, in the morning in the
morning. And so I had to get up earlier. Okay, but in a better
mood than it was last time.
Oh, you know, it's funny. Some people commented on your mood.
Yeah, they
said I was in a bad mood. Yeah, it was because I was stuck with
this latency. I'm talking away. Yeah. And then you say and then
you throw it to me and then there's an hour lag. And I say
what yaxham More?
You know what? Let's try Comcast.
Do you think that's gonna help? I don't
know. John. It says this is pretty pathetic.
Okay, it's worth it.
Yeah, I can decide Actually Actually, I can almost do it on
the fly. So we can keep talking. Yeah, no, seriously, I can go to
the network connection sharing centre, just turn off this
network. Okay.
And you think the Skype connection will just keep
working?
You know, Stranger things have happened.
Okay, well, I'm marking the time down for to edit this out in
case it becomes
divorced. Of course, I gotta figure out because every one of
these computers I have had the different you know, they why
does it windows just stay with the same you know, basic
interfaces. It's just beyond me. Okay, here we go. This gets shut
off. Disabled when disabling.
Okay, disabling as we speak. I'm looking at his connection. He
still seems to be there. It's kind of interesting, too. Play
with this. Okay. You've disabled? Are you still there?
All right, marking the time down. It was really weird. Just
before we started
dating i Yeah. 20. Your back. And I didn't do anything. Yeah.
Well, it did reconnect.
Yeah, well, okay. But I didn't.
I'm telling I'm telling you, interestingly enough. And this
is, this is internet type stuff. You might think that Sonic net,
which you normally on may just not have the routes or the
routes to to Japan that Comcast would have.
Comcast might be more Japanese centric. Yeah.
And you have to say, you've never sounded better on Comcast.
Well, there you have it. I'll send them the memo because I'm
always complaining.
Oh, don't worry. I'm sure something will screw up
eventually. This
is the reason that you need multiple connections. I was
listening to the FCC hearings. Yeah. And and one of the people
said well, and you get this and it's like a it's a it's a
monopoly of the head some weird term they used
Did you did you get clips because you wrote about this in
your in your newsletter update. I got the
one clip of this long winded. I got the clip of the rationale
why the Democrats had voted yes on the Wheeler. proposal and the
Republicans voted no. And there and the problem is that the two
women are the Democrats and the two men are the Republicans and
the women are these unbelievably long winded boards. Yeah. Blast
they got talk. And in fact, you wanted this. We want to get this
out of the way. Let's play the one woman. The black one is
whose first name is mignon, as fillet mignon. Which is seems
odd, but it's what her name is, right? You just start playing
this and you hear it. She's coming up with all the reasons
that the government should be involved. The government has to
be involved because we're all going to be screwed if the
government doesn't do something. So we need the government, the
government, the government in the internet. And here she is
rationalising and she's throwing cliche, she's sentence structure
is crazy. She says stuff that makes no sense if you listen to
it, but just play away. And then you can stop it when you feel
like it's not a company, not the government determined winners
and losers. It is a free market. And yeah, I'm done. I'm just
kidding. I'm just kidding.
You shouldn't be kidding.
Yes. All of this, however, does not know Will it ever occur
organically. Without rules governing a free and open
Internet? It is possible that companies fixed and wireless
broadcast broadband providers could independently determine
whether they want to discriminate or block content,
pick favourites, charge higher fees or distort the market. I am
been listening to concerns not just from my mother, but from
1000s of consumers. And
by the way, I am been listening let me just say something about
the when when people say my mother when it relates to
technology. Like my mother can't figure out how to use that or
it's so easy. My mother could use it. Or what else you yes it
does because it is misogynistic and ageist at the same time. And
that is so condescending for anyone to use that as an example
my mother can use it.
Okay, I gotta dive I'm not gonna argue the point. I think you're
right. And so many people do this. It's her whole her whole
argument has been couched on what her mother asked her
a Hardee's startups that fear they won't even get a chance to
succeed.
Okay. Okay, I have to we have to get into this I start
ups that fear that you'll be able to succeed.
All right, so let me go from now I'm going to play her a little
bit more I have a few clips myself of responses around the
world. And as you know I'm very annoyed by toll road speed bump
fast lanes, slow lane analogies. And and now it seems the whole
issue is startup so I'll be startups won't have a chance,
which is bullcrap. No one cares about this at
all? No, no, that's not true Adam, because she was told by
her constituents. Her constituents told her this you
have to listen more to this woman. By the way, when you're
done with this part, you can clip the you can just jump to
the second part where she talks a little bit more about her
mother. And the second question, which is shorter. I'm enjoying
this I want to listen
consumers is controlled by corporations rather than a
competitive level playing field and best
competitive that makes good against like corporations not
controlled by a level competitive. But how does the
level competitive playing field control anything? But anyway, go
on to say
they will be reticent to commit money to new companies, because
they are concerned that their new servers won't be able to
reach consumers in the marketplace. Because of high
costs or differential treatment. Yeah,
this is the Obama bot. reasoning about net neutrality. It used to
be well, you know, the, there could be choices and different
protocols and different systems. And now it's all about the new
startup. But when you really drill down into it, I'm going to
take a slight detour here, John, to MSNBC, with this woman from
recode recode is the outfit that used to be what is that Kara
Swisher. And
yeah, it used to be Mossberg from the edge. It'll all be or
whatever, All Things
D. Here is a woman from recode. And she's really telling you
what the issue is
when they talk about Fast Lane. It's not like a fast lane that
you would home and buy, because you can already buy faster
service that she want. This would be more like a fast lane
that a an Amazon or Google or Facebook or Netflix could buy to
get traffic to your house faster. And the reason that
people are upset about this because not all companies have
enough money to sort of pay for that kind of Fastlane service.
And so if this went into effect, smaller companies or startups
wouldn't necessarily be able to kind of pay this kind of the
extra two Old to get to your house faster. So meaning bit
like Netflix could in theory be more expensive. But the next
Netflix The next thing you're gonna binge watch all your
favourite shows on couldn't even get started because they really
just can't pay for the faster service. Exactly.
Okay, exactly. Now, I'm going to say something here, which I'm
going to build upon something that you you said earlier in the
week, actually you on Twitter, the American public for sure.
And I think this probably goes for publics around a lot of the
globe. When it comes to droning people when it comes to spying
universally, when it comes to screwing the public, no one
cares killing American citizens with drones. No one cares. But
you're gonna make my Netflix buffer, right? I can't have a
new Netflix, but I can binge watch on protest. And that is
the pathetic nature of what is going on here. That is so
pathetic. The binge
watching thing. Yeah, it's so important that we can binge
watch. Like it. Yeah, the way there was no such thing as busy
binge watching a decade ago.
And this truly is the only thing people are talking about is the
new Netflix. The new Netflix,
I want more Outland more,
I want more Hollywood content. This is this.
Yeah, so you're right. This is actually very pathetic. It's an
indictment of the mentality of the people that are all upset.
Let's go back to a minion. One.
I'm gonna say something I gotta interrupt, you go back to minion
in a second, I'm going to give a speech in Michigan that I fit
I've kept been working on. And it turns out, I don't know how
many more public speech speeches I'm going to be able to do, I'm
gonna write
it already. Sounds like this may be one of the last ones
depending on what you're going to say.
My conclusions I've been developing a new speech are
extremely depressing.
And you want to do on a give us a little,
just that just because part of what you said is because part of
it is just like we have regressed in the computer
revolution began as a freedom movement. It was a freedom and
independence of the big mainframes and and once the
internet got involved, it pushed us back in the other direction
to the point where we're all slaves now to this kind of
thing. And this sort of thinking, and our concerns are
about binge watching. And we don't give a crap about anything
else.
It's even worse, man, we had dinner tonight with two Dutch
guys, one who has in a very well run successful advertising
agency here. And his friend who sold an internet company in the
Netherlands, a social network a couple of years ago. And so he's
kind of on a worldwide tour going around and then this guy,
you know, you've made some good, good money, I presume. He's, you
know, he's he goes to Bali. He's going around China, he's hanging
out in Japan. And, you know, he was just the things he was
saying, and this is a guy who knows what's going on. He was
like, Well, you know, you really can't stop the you know, the
information flow and you know, people that you can't the
privacy is overrated,
elitism defeat is completely to the defeatist as a whole Oh, you
can't do it about privacy. Anyone who says that, which is
and it's bull crap, by the way, you can do plenty about it. But
anyone who says that's a defeatist, and a depressing
loser, and it goes
and he was like, you know, what was he saying, you know, and
it's it's good that you know, that people can track if you
know, if you're a menace to society, you know, if you're, if
you're a smoker then you're a burden on society. And I'm like,
wait a minute, are you the kind of guy that's also also wants to
have a GPS tracker in your car to lower your insurance right so
yeah, it's unavoidable. Obviously I'll have the champion
said he would have the chip and nice guy by the way, but brow he
also you know, bomb and it was he was like a transhumanist. And
you know, Ray Kurzweil is Bill Gates is saving the world. My
head was exploding.
Every meme and cliche that we are against on this show is
coming at you in stereo,
and I'm trying to eat sushi at the same time. It's very
difficult. Yeah, let's back the back to this. These minion
meeting on Mignon
educators, even where there is high capacity connection at that
school feel that their students may not be able to take
advantage of the best in digital learning is the quality content
is poor.
Because your YouTube is buffering, is that what's gonna
happen the content will be poor.
Oh, please, healthcare professionals worrying that the
images they need to view will load too slowly, and that
patients will be unable to benefit from the latest
technologies and specialised care Oh, this,
this is this is insane. This woman is rolling out every mean
possible. Let me think what else she's gonna get? I'm just gonna
guess what else is she going to talk about? That we won't be
able to get our milk ordered automatically.
She doesn't go there a bit of Internet of Things
made possible through remote monitoring. And I am hearing
from everyday people who said that we need to maintain the
openness of the internet for Netflix, and that this openness
enables today's discourse to be viewed by 1000s and offers them
the ability to interact directly with public policymakers, and
engage in robust exchanges, like we are experiencing today. In
fact, let me say how impressed I was when I spoke to some of you
on May street earlier this week, you came to Washington from
North Carolina, New York, Pennsylvania, and Virginia on
your own dime. To affirm just how important this issue is to
you. You made it clear that the internet is a great equaliser in
our society, and that average consumers should have the same
access to the internet as those with deep pockets. There are
dozens of examples across the globe, where we have seen
firsthand the dangers to society when people are not allowed to
choose government blocking access to content and stifling
free speech in public discourse. Countries like including some in
Europe, where providers have congested or degraded content.
And apps are being blocked from certain mobile devices.
Oh, excuse me, that happens here. It's everywhere. It's it's
rampant. And what she's calling for is for legislation that
literally will put in place, the ability to block so called
illegal content, whatever that means.
Yeah, it may mean downloading movies. And then yeah, music.
I got an email just before the show. And a lot of people are
very happy with our stance and trying to explain what is
happening. Because if if your only source of information is,
you know, mainstream media,
G or the hysterical tech media,
let me give you here's an example of MSNBC. I know, I
know, the more people listen to this show than watch MSNBC, but
it is an example of how dumb the mainstream media treats its
public. I don't think the public is dumb. But this is a dumbing
down when you talk about this issue like this
net neutrality. It's a wonky techie term, you know, it's a
wonky techie term, wonky ticketor probably heard thrown
around the interwebs,
webs into ribs,
or right about here and there a few months or years. And perhaps
as a person who uses a computer or a smartphone or a tablet or
anything with Wi Fi. You wondered whether you should
care, do you
have Wi Fi? If you don't have Wi Fi? You shouldn't care?
Well, you should. And we figured that given new events unfolding
this week in Washington, now is a good time to bring you up to
speed Get it, get it? Out, hopefully you will in a minute.
For starters, the term net or network neutrality is based on a
principle that basic internet protocols should be non
discriminatory. In short, that content providers should treat
all internet traffic equally. Back in January and appeals
court struck down regulations from the Federal Communications
Commission that were designed to protect net neutrality. And that
brings us to this week, an FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler has
proposed new rules to protect the open internet, but with a
very big caveat, a caveat that would essentially create a fast
toll for those who can afford it in a slower lane for those who
can't. And that has some activists for the open internet
really fired up fired on Thursday, protesters gathered
outside as FCC board members voted on and weighed in on these
new proposed rules for the road for access to high speed
internet.
Alright, you are wrong. Now let me just so this is this is an
email that came in just before the show. I've been listening to
no agenda for quite some time now. Although I disagree with
some opinions you have especially about global warming.
I kept watching you and John, I hope this person is actually not
watching us because
that I happen to be looking around for the camera where
I kept watching you and John because you're funny and provide
other more reasonable points of view and ways of thinking. You
say a lot of wrong stuff about other topics too. But I have let
them all slide because of the same reasons because we're
funny. I think you've crossed the boundary in my head when you
went on the attack against net neutrality. Although you claim
to have more knowledge on the subject and the citizenry you
clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Now, I'm not
going to do a sentence by sentence dissection of your
speech on net neutrality or global warming, because that
would be boring for me. boring for you and plainly ineffective,
since you just dismiss it. If you don't know who the guy in
the video you played is it's CGP Grey. We plough Oh, who was
that? I don't know. Oh, he's very well loved on the internet.
And I predict you'll get a lot of backlash because of that.
seems unlikely note, however, that it's not the reason I'm
turning you off. I'm not see GPS bodyguard, although many people
are gonna we're gonna get beat up. John, I'm turning you off.
Because I think that sometimes you take a position about a
subject, not because of what you read and believe it because you
just want to be against the majority. Fun in Japan. Wow,
he didn't say anything. He did have fun in Japan creep raising?
No, it was kind of like a last line. Yeah, have fun in Japan.
And I'm gone. I'm out. I'm stopped listening. I'm done.
Yeah, well, he's not much of a listener, because if he was, he
would have heard that that letter you before the rant that
you just recently gave you read that letter from the sysop guy
who explained the problem with the packet equal packets. And in
fact, that was watching another thing on C span, I don't have a
clip of it. Because these guys are a little long winded. But it
was a group of high end the guys, in one of the smaller
conference rooms discussing the net neutrality issues and why
it's Bogota, they were all thinking the same way you were.
And one of them to describe the situations of all packets are
equal, how do you deal with the following situation, you have a
congested network, which they always get to be because of some
people running videos, and you are running a remote control
surgery operation where a doctor is in you know, New York, and
he's operating on a on a remote.
Okay, here's how it works. Hey, I'm gonna watch Sharknado in
high def, who cares about some doctor.
And so the doctors working and he needs real time connectivity
through the internet, and he has to have a high priority. And if
it was, let's say a high end operation where there was doing
this sort of thing was happening, which it will in the
future because there's not going to be enough surgeons, there'll
be these remote control operations, they're going to
have to buy a really, you know, they're gonna have to buy a
straight pipe through the same internets, because these are all
privately owned pipes anyway, very few public ones. And
according to all these people, nope, that should be illegal.
You can't do that. Because now all of a sudden you're
prioritising packets. How does that work? That's a
that's a very good argument. And I bet a lot of people will would
love to pressure their insurance company to insure not insure but
ensure that they actually have high priority paid priority
access if they're being operated on. If you had that, if you had
that option, would you say? Oh, no, I want my packets for my
open heart surgery to be equal to Netflix.
Yeah, and then they gave plenty of examples like that. And it
makes nothing but sense when you think about it. This is a
hysterical argument that we're listening to. Everybody is
freaky. There. They're not thinking this through they are
there. This is the way the society is now working. It makes
people like this. And I mean when I was doing twit, I mean
everyone's literally shaking their shaking the so mad at you
by the way, they're so mad at you. I didn't even do well just
just by angel. I said well, I think this is adorable. Just by
Pooh poohing it. Yeah. Just by not jumping on board. Yes. Yeah.
Yeah. That you are by definition you are the enemy when you when
you do stuff like that. You are not Pooh poohing it. You are
putting it you Putin it baby, there's no good you poopoo Putin
it?
Let's finish off Mignon here. And then I WANT TO PLAY CLIP two
of her, which is a short one. And it's poignant enough that we
have to play it.
The second question she pose was can providers just do what they
want? This is her her
mom, right? Yeah, her mom, her mom, Mama, and
I'm sure her mom would say kindo service providers, you know, the
ISPs do whatever what they want. You know, I was gonna ask that
at all. Of course they did.
The short answer is yes. As of January, we have no rules to
prevent discrimination or blocking. This is actually a
significant change because the FCC has had policies in place,
dating back to 2004. With the commission and the former
chairman and my good friend, Michael Powell, unanimously
adopted for possibles of an open internet and the Internet policy
statement.
The Internet policy statement was not enforceable is what
she's talking about. Right. Oh, and but
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry. That was it.
Just I was pouring coffee and I couldn't.
I couldn't get up there because she seemed she makes this
comment. She always does this. She says, The Internet Policy
Statement, which were made, we're going to enforce one of
these days. And then she she keeps bringing this this non
enforcing thing up in a very funny way as though it was going
to be enforced or we should enforce or maybe net net net
neutrality meeting is about enforcing it. Okay.
The Commission under former chairman and my good friend
Michael Powell. Alright, let's
let's just do it again.
Nana Miss Lee adopted four principles of an open internet
and the Internet policy statement. These principles
became the rules of the road with the potential for
enforcement.
Right potential for enforcement. And this is important to point
out because people are being taught now in a New Deal. There
were rules that are being that are being dismissed and broken
and taken away, which they're just we're
not know there were suggestions. Yes.
Then in 2010, the Commission formally adopted rules to
promote an open Internet by preventing blocking and
unreasonable discrimination. When the Commission approved
these rules. I explained why I noticed
I noticed by the way, it's unreasonable discrimination.
This is where we're coming from, which is it has been working
pretty well, unreasonable discrimination. And that will
that will remain in
place some things differently. For instance, I would have
applied the same rules to both fixed and mobile broadband,
prohibited pay priority agreements, limited any
exceptions to the rule, and I am on record as preferring a
different legal structure. The 2010 Rules reflect a compromise.
Yes, Mom, I do compromise at times. In January of 2014. The
DC circuit disagreed with our legal framework. And here we
are, again.
Yeah, this woman is a moron and the main and not that she's
actually a moron. But no, no, she has no, she doesn't
understand how this works. She's just talking out of her butt.
Paid pushes against paid priority agreements that is
called peering. Yeah. Where you have the unbalanced you have an
unbalanced got one side with that's delivering a lot of
stuff. And the other side is not but
it's also it's also known as transit. It's, yeah, that's the
technical term transit, you pay for transit. And then you and
that is because you have no peering, and you need to get
somewhere and you and you can't, you can't get there for free,
you have to pay for it. This is these people have no idea how
the internet works. interwebs I'm sorry. They really have no
idea. And I and you're right the the hysterical tech press who
think that they that it's like just one big round robin network
that is just everything's flowing. And it's all free. And
and it's all equal up and down. No one ever talks about that
anymore. By
Well, I want to point out something talking about peering
and these agreements, all the rest of it, we changed the
connection on this show today in real time, from one connection
to did not have good peering to Japan, which ran over AT and T I
might add, which would make sense because the Japanese are,
you know, centric with the telephone system. And they
probably don't like at&t, they probably never got together and
the cable company probably did. So there's a different peering
agreement with the case with Comcast and there is how is that
equal packets? How can it ever be equal packets,
and in fact, overhead to make equal pay?
As a cost is outrageous, as
it cuts out? didn't cut out just for a second? No, but it is it
is without I'm not going to get better. I'm not going to edit
the beginning of the show. So people can actually hear that
how horrible it was, you switch to a different network. And if I
have, you know, if we had the time we consider we could do
trace routing, and you could see it's probably far fewer hops to
get from here to there. And and in fact, it's paid priority you
pay you pay a certain amount for this particular connection. But
people don't they they've taken it so for granted. And you and I
know how this works, you know when well, people who are the
designated tech technologist in the family I don't know if
that's yours that buzzkill Jr. May be who's the who's the
designated techie in the family that gets the call?
We all get calls. Eric, probably more than anyone. So be here
that he's the he's the wires guy here.
Here's like the internet doesn't work. And you're yet to say
well, what do you mean the internet doesn't work? Well, I'm
trying to get to Facebook.
Oh, yeah, that would be meat in this house. Right. And by the
way, but did they never say that everyone knows the internet's
down, down?
Router. But I have I have an agreement with my wife the
Darling Miss Mickey. You Because I don't mind being the guy, you
know when something's wrong, but I said, Look, if you want tech
support, I'm going to teach you and let this be a lesson for
everybody who deals with tech support. Now, actually, I'm
going to be very, I'm going to be very misogynistic for a
moment. If you're a woman, and you're asking for tech support
from a man sets it up a little bit, we respond well to that.
And Mickey does this. Now she says,
she will be all kinds of humorous situations she
does, because she comes in, hey, tech support. I pull off or top
or any sometimes
that's a way to get results.
You better believe it gets results. And if you're, if
you're a dude, you can get there's other ways to do it up,
you know, then and you'll get results. But you have to treat
technologists who are going to help you with some respect.
And a little sacks.
How you got off on that bit? I'll be
interesting. It's true. People don't people don't respect their
technology help desk. They don't know they don't they do not
respect them. Because it's like your car. You know, when your
car breaks on a day, take it to Joe. Hey, Joe, fix my car. And
this stuff is barely working. It's barely working. And then
it's like you're at the end of the day. It's like Facebook. You
know, Facebook sucks sometimes, where maybe you have to refresh
your canvas, so many different things. Anyway, there was
disbanded, I'll let me reiterate one thing, which is that this is
a hopeless argument. Nobody you get like, I think the letter you
got from that guy is classic. He is all in on this net neutrality
argument from this perspective. And he's all in on global
warming. Gee, what else is he all in on? He's obviously
listened to the show twice. Yeah, didn't like anything he
thought maybe were funny once in a while. And he bails out
because he can't, he won't listen, he won't listen. This is
the problem that we had. I got a letter from I read it last show
or the show before from with this family that had all the
names. And the person writing the woman, she says you we tried
to hit our friends in the mouth, and it doesn't work, we got to
full families in on the show. And we have iterated this a
number of times, which is you cannot convince people that are
already ruined. They've ruined themselves for whatever reason
they lost causes. You have to preach to the choir for our
shows benefit to get our audience bigger, we just need
more choir members, we're not going to get some guy home. Oh
my god, I've been wrong all these years. My entire
everything I thought it was true is wrong. I can't live with
myself. Most people literally can't live with themselves if
they realise something's crazy things. Well, that we talk about
routinely on this show, one of our very open minded
we'll talk about in a minute, but we had a of course, we had
no agenda meet up here in Tokyo. And it's always nice when when
you meet some of the producers in person and they come with
some really personal stories, such as you know, hey, you know,
I got type one diabetes. And if it weren't for the show, I'd be
dead. If I did, if I didn't have you know, if I didn't listen to
you guys, and get some kind of critical thinking about what is
the pharmaceutical industry trying to do to me? And what do
they want me to inject and take and he said, Me, I have a better
life because of it. Of course it Hey, you did that yourself. But
it's the kind of thinking that will save you and the people,
you know, this is a giant reality show. And a lot of
people didn't get voted off. And it's not going to be pretty.
Except if you're listening you have a good chance.
The show is designed to actually maintain a sort of thought
process that is more open minded and more liberal to be honest
about it than any liberals. That's for sure. The knee jerk
says we used to call them Yeah. And it's very healthy. It's very
beneficial and you you but you do have trouble you're not going
to get people that are all in on the on the propaganda like your
Dutch friend there that was at the dinner. Yeah, that guy is so
far gone. You could never get him you could never reel him in
in a million years is you might as well just let them go. It's
like okay, you're on your own. Yeah. It's kind of pathetic.
Well, that's
what I told him. I said, you're on your own dude.
Jennifer, you're gay. Good news. There's one thing you must
remember no agenda and moanin for a healthy balanced news
diet. Try no agenda. show.com
I just had one last clip on this net neutrality thing and that
was before the hearing started, which I knew you were going to
have these clips because you knew you had the newsletter, but
I got this clip of a couple of protesters who were removed
forcibly and and I just want you to listen to, I think it's two
or three in a row. And then we'll talk about that
example of the lack of legitimacy of our democracy. And
we want to make sure that people understand the context of this
is that we have an illegitimate democracy and we didn't have the
people rolling. It's obviously internet's a common carrier that
brings us all equally to the net. But we can all go out
without any prejudice or bias, or any kind of any kind of
discrimination. We don't want to get in.
So this guy is talking about it's obvious the Internet is a
common carrier and we don't have a democracy without it.
FCC do its job and regulate the internet for the people
and regulate the internet for the people. Does he hear what's
coming out of his mouth regulated for the people
regulated for the corporations not for the corporations
regulated regulated the fact that he wants it regulated by
the government please government?
What does that woman say in the background looks like free
internet, or somebody should
fuck the internet
Yeah, I think she did. It. I don't know what I get her out
to. And that's he's gone. Ah, there we go. Popular
resistance.org Hey, I like that. I'll be right back to that.
Century. The internet is our free speech. But in this
country, we're losing our rights to free speech. The internet was
the public Commons. All right, so popular resistance the
internet was created with our dollars. This is a very
interesting outfit, popular resistance.org. But I'm just
looking at their homepage. Warren peace in Korea and
Vietnam net neutrality. So now what about administration
resists effort to save videos of Guantanamo? Edna, it's like, Who
are these people? And you, you go to About Us, which I always
do. And then as our mission, with the corporate takeover of
federal and state governments, more people are becoming
politically active in new and creative ways. A growing culture
of resistance is utilising nonviolent direct action civil
disobedience as a primary tactic. Oh, this sounds good.
And then it's like, oh, from Veterans for Peace to Occupy
Wall Street to tar sands block aid. Okay. And then, you know,
you look at who is our contributors, and there's no, no
corporations, no, nothing there.
My a Jacob balkwill. Who's the editor of the love news, luv?
Well, here's so here's how it's a communications worker guy.
Well, here's how I figured out you go to donate. And then it
says, Please make a tax deductible donation online
through our fiscal sponsor, the Alliance for global justice.
Ah,
okay. So you go to the Alliance for global justice. And that's a
nice outfit. They do about? Well, they haven't filed the
2013 numbers yet. But 2012, they did a nice three and a half
million dollars in donations. And their goal is to achieve
social change and economic justice by helping to build a
stronger, more unified grassroots movement. And the
donors are interesting, actually, the the donors are
listed in this form 990, which is
not typical. And that's nice. Yeah.
And I'm gonna scrolling down to it here, Community Foundation,
fidelity charitable gift fund, fire doll foundation is all D,
this is how it works. This is this is the path that you have
to follow. And you have to go back to these are all
nonprofits. And so the nonprofits give to the nonprofit
that gives the nonprofits the bright water fund. Seriously.
Yeah, no, they're all fronts. For Soros. Yes.
In general. Yes, exactly. And these are not grassroot roots,
movements. These are people who are paid in a nonprofit way. Now
of course, they do pay they have tape payroll taxes, but it's it
is unbelievable, the level of this three or four levels deep
of these nonprofits, and they act like they're some kind of
grassroots movement but they're not these people are paid to do
this.
keep the internet safe.
Well, that Hellcat that screaming in the background is
worth all whatever they pay are exactly what you want. Yeah.
Thanks army
for five years ago, and I had to bring up this. This outfit, by
the way used to be the Nicaragua foundation. So they like those
back Oh yeah. Oh yeah, this goes way back. Yeah. So
business what do you do you got to make some money somehow.
Alright so just to read it to reiterate, and it kind of flows
right into this email I received from Chris. Hey Jen, good
morning thanks for your courage I just wrapped up listen to
episode 617. I found the packet inequality clips very
interesting. The pricing model that calm the Comcast exec was
talking about is already happening with my cable
provider. We use suddenlink for data only and not cable six
months ago suddenlink moved to the pricing model have a total
data cap for the month based on the speed you pay for and
charging $10 for each 50 gigabytes you go over, we pay
$70 a month for 30 up and five down. That's probably he
probably means 3030 Down to five up. We are Are we I mean we are
an all Netflix house. So we hit the data cap quickly. To avoid
overages. I had to set my net Netflix account back to that
different streaming quality. Now we never come close to our 250
gigabyte cap even with the streaming to for TVs and for
mobile devices. Just thought you'd like to know this pricing
is plan is already in play. Thanks for your hard work and
for watching spend so I don't have to. And this is this and
that, by the way is fair. That is that is a fair way for it to
work. You've he's streaming he was streaming HD to four
different devices, maybe all at the same time sometimes, and
you're saturating a portion of the network, which may have to
be upgraded or it's just not it's not free. People think this
is this is free like it's air. Well
here's the other thing is here's some now I'm going to tell you
what's going to happen and then
we're gonna get torn, tarred and feathered is what's going on.
Nobody they gave him no, we just marginalise those two assholes.
They're always like, the guy says you're just disagreeing to
disagree. Yeah, okay, fine. All right, here's the deal is gonna
happen, you got this, they're gonna put these caps up, because
they're gonna, that's what they really want to do. And they
don't. Netflix, of course, wants a free ride on the whole thing.
So they can just hog all the bandwidth. And if you think that
right now they're using a third of the all US bandwidth after
set to 5pm something like that is very high when people started
using it a lot. This is nothing multiply that 1/3 times 4x.
Because when we get to 4k streaming, yeah, which fully are
our to do Archduke is into that is going to just bring the net
to do it's going to bring it to its knees.
And that's when you'll be happy to pay for priority. You'll be
happy. It'll be an experience. It will be fantastic. You will
pay a little extra for it. Sorry, the days of $8 Netflix
are over. But it's fair. That's that's the that's the thing that
makes me just no no, no, forget about you, right? We're just
gonna be marginalised. Let's move on because it's it's the
people who are in our in the people who are out. They are
they're gonna lead our point enough. Hey, so we were here in
we're here in Tokyo. And on what was it now Friday night. Sir
market day mastered through a huge party. It's kind of so they
have this, this. They have their their business. And then on the
side, they have something called Super Deluxe, which is pretty
much a big contribution to the art scene in Tokyo. And they do
25 events a month. And they you know, they're basically adding
money to it. And they threw a 5050 party. It was a party for
two gents who are going to 25
events a month. That's not right. Yes. 25 look at the
calendar 25 events a month. Yes. That's the whole month. Yes.
Yes. They thought they had work to do.
But they do but you know this they have staff running this
place. And it's really it's just a it's an it's a crazy art place
that sometimes it's dancing sometimes it's performance art,
they have extra expos all kinds of stuff. And they and they
understand our value for value model so well because they have
to go out and get get people to pay for it. Because and of
course they you know they're they have a vow of poverty on
that project. So be it so they threw a party for marks or mark
and me. And at this party. There were four There were two
musicians very funny Morgan Fisher, who used to play with
Mott the Hoople. He did have everlasting love, you know, he's
an organist, keyboardist. And he's, he's been in Tokyo for, I
don't know, 2025 years. And Sam Bennett, another musician and
these guys, they just, they just sat down and played for like 45
minutes, a whole bunch of hits from our youth. And then there
were pulled answers. Interestingly enough with some
audio provided by John C. Dvorak calling Miss Mickey and Dame
Astrid, to the stage. Nice, nice job, John. He then then there
was a performance arts by Gugino and I think booster Mark sent
pictures sent you pictures, I gotta put them on my on the blog
or in the show notes or something. So it's like two
guys. And they have they were they had a guitar with a blender
on it. And then he played the other guitar, and then he was
blending milkshakes. And then he's crazy. I think it must have
been illegal at least in 13 Prefect prefects in Japan. And
they had like his love arm, which was just screaming and
lights and flashing and was I think it was just insane.
Followed by the 567 eights, the three Japanese girls who were in
Kill Bill. They do the kind of the the beach, the surf sound.
And then, and of course, a DJ Toretto got on the wheels of
steel, and played us into the night. And the only thing that
was missing was you, John, I was there in spirit and spirit, but
we missed you and we had a lovely meet up at 10 or 12
producers came from around Japan actually. And what I think we
should do is well, let me first thank you for your courage and
say in the morning to you John C Dvorak. Yeah. Well,
let me think and by the way, I want to mention that we're
trying to do a beat of of some sort in Detroit so send me an
email John at divorce that Oregon subject line Detroit and
we'll make a mailing list I should just take from the
mailing list but it's Canada death. In the morning you Adam
curry in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground feet
in the air subs in the water and all the Dames and all the nights
out there. And
to our artists Thank you very much 20 watt bulb for the
artwork of the Japanese wave, which we rolled out for episode
617 I was highly appreciated in the morning to everyone in the
chat room. No agenda stream.com no agenda chat dotnet Good to
see you all here. Let me kick off with with our on the spot
donations, John. If you don't mind?
Yes, yeah. them up.
Okay. Let me see. Actually, everybody handed us a beautiful
note. And I didn't know this but in Japan the it is tradition. If
you're giving someone a card, you have to get a really pretty
envelope and it's all
we're very familiar with this tradition here in the divorce
household where both Mimi and, and J don't know how to wrap
gifts Japanese style. Oh, Jimmy. It's like ludicrous. But it's
pretty
it's pretty and I got to follow on notes. So everyone wrote a
little note on their on their envelope, but this first one is
from Brandon Baker, who donated 35,605 yen which he says as of
May 16 is $350.50 so he will be an executive producer today do
John Adam in the morning he both of this email arrives in time
for episode 618 I would have sent it earlier but the hangover
I developed at the 5050 party in Tokyo has finally subsided
nearly 36 hours after I left the party.
Cheap Saki
no we were drinking something else. It's the it's a clear it's
it's clear liquids. Oh
that clear yam whiskey. Yeah. Yeah. Do not drink that
is great. Oh, yeah. It was great to make my first donation to no
agenda directly to Adam in person at the party. That
donation was for $350.50. Three because of the magic number and
5050 and celebration of adamance or March birthdays. Speaking of
Adam, he was nothing like I expected he was extremely
friendly.
Yeah, after the cover those yam was he's sincere and
humble. I guess Vidya assassination really gets his
blood boiling, I guess. I guess I come across as a dick to him.
Anyway, it'd be it was a pleasure spending a few minutes
talking with him and Miss Mickey who is the bomb. And thank you,
Sir Mark and de Mastered for hosting a great party. In
conclusion, I'd like to thank you both your courage as well as
for helping me to help me to see through the illusion that is Big
Pharma. Several years ago, I was diagnosed with a chronic
illness. I was told I would require a prescribed lifestyle
and a lifetime of medication to support it. However, it turns
out the lifestyle the doctors recommend is really what makes
those drugs necessary not the illness. Thanks to the no agenda
show I had the insight and scepticism required to get to
the bottom of the things that completely changed my life
around you guys are lifesavers with not too much trouble May I
please have a
get busted eventually by the FDA. So good.
May I have a take your meds slave and douchebag combo for
Big Pharma? A de douching for myself and a karma for everybody
out there that needs it? Gun but they could decide gentlemen,
Japanese for keep on fighting. Let me see if where is the take
the ones take your meds? Douchebag and, dude, I'll do the
deed douching I could do it all in one go. I guess I'll do the
douchebag first then make it easy.
You've been de Deus. You've got karma. There we go. Next up, we
have a second we have Dwayne lively, who also sent an email
in the morning great serves. I've been a listener since
around episode 100 or so. And now I find I can't watch the
mainstream media for more than a few minutes without getting a
migraine in a bad case of the shakes. I also can't see a news
story about a foreign country without searching the country's
name and oil.
Yeah, that's your best bet. In the past, I've
tried to help out the show by contributing information on
various issues, including the post office financial
difficulties, but if I had decided it was time to cut off
my Boehner so to speak, and help you great service out of your
financial difficulties. I hope this donation of 33,000 yen
helped some John since I paid in cash make sure Adam credits the
entire amount and didn't just say oh no, he only donated
20,000 to take me for wow, I was impressed that. Yeah. It was
great meeting Adam. Thanks for the Yeah, it was. It was great.
It was great meeting Adam and the magnificent Miss Mickey the
rest of the no agenda producers were nice to although we were a
bit scruffy compared to the rest of the crowd. I hope to meet
John someday. I hope you in the no agenda producers will check
out my daily blather at Duane lively.com And my desperate I'm
desperate. I and my desperately in need of an update. Crazy
japan.com I can use little karma is not too much trouble. Thank
you for encouraging your hard work. Dwayne. Thank you very
much Dwayne for your support. You're an executive producer dot
karma. Then we have the next one here. Now we'd have just cards.
The Adam John, thank you for your courage. This is from Sam
from Tokyo. Please accept this paltry donation as a token of
gratitude for the many hours of infotainment you've provided me
with its donation is long overdue and I would like to
deduce myself if possible. Also, transfer my douchebag status
over to my brother Steve Oh in Cleveland. Little shout of con
would be appreciated for family and friends and a shout out to
Mooney and Walker out in New York. Keep up the good work guys
love the show. PS sorry for the Christmas card. I was in a rush
to go to the Tokyo party for Adam and Sir Mark. And could
I like to take these you take it you a car used to be like a
Christmas card from someone else. That's even better. You
cross out a Christmas you type you write it in with a man and
then you cross out their name and sign it.
And he gave us a check actually for $111.11. US check. Then we
have here's the next one. I want to make sure I do this right
now.
You know what it's like? Yeah,
well, yeah, it sucks. Okay, now this is a Graham Briggs in the
morning. Thanks for coming to Japan and go at first I got to
hand out some karma. I forgot the karma that for our buddy.
You've got karma. I have. Here's Todd the lowly serve of Tokyo
with 21,000 yen. Thank you very much. I'll hand you some karma
for that. You've got karma Graham Briggs in the morning.
Thanks for coming to Japan and some karma for tahoka and my
wife Euro shiko 6000 yen and of course karma for you guys. And
you've got karma then finally and this one was the really the
beautifully wrapped card? And this is from yes is a pretty
funny note. If I can get through all of it it's handwritten
beautiful cursive. Do you Adam? Hello it's Bill and JV from the
BJ Consulting Group in Osaka, Osaka. And they were wearing T
shirts of which I have acquired to one for you John in which the
t shirt say fuck Tokyo I heart Osaka. Apparently there's some
rivalry between the two. Oh yeah, we are writing this on a
shaky bullet train in. Can't read it while drunk. That's why
I can't read it. Here's an on the spot. $100 donation and some
goodies from our hometown Osaka T shirts, and the no agenda
stickers. We had promised you octopus balls. If you came to
Osaka if we brought them on the train, they would have been cold
and soggy by the time we reached Tokyo. And that would have meant
soggy balls. They were very drunk. as we as we are members.
That's funny bill. Yeah.
Hey, good. We're gonna call ourselves the BJ Consulting
Group. They were the ones that turned me on to that yam wine.
Kid as
we are members of the 200 Club we'd like to thank you and Miss
Mickey for coming to visit Japan to hold the Hot Pockets wasabi
2009 tour. We'd love a live granary While Don Raff and a
Karma BJ Consulting Group consists of Billund JV This is
the only official no agenda meeting in Osaka are they do
meetups themselves just two guys having beer. That's the Osaka
meetup. Bill is a sounds like it yeah, Bill is a salaryman in big
Japanese industrial company where he takes care of global
network of websites and domains. JV is industrial designer who
also works with development of graphene and 3d printing. Ooh,
what is graphing raise graphene? Yeah, yeah. Wow,
what is graphene?
As the world has said this The Super substance of the future my
friend Oh, what can you do with it? Everything nice isn't the
strongest it's just you should look it up and read about it
because it is an astonishing product. They there's a little
they you know, set the molecular level of problem with it, isn't
it? You know, they they're still manufacturing of graphene is an
issue and that will be solved eventually.
Okay, so for them grind green rod Tao Robbie's I got all hyped
up on that we'd have the memo. Mr. Curry seems to be a John can
I speak with you for a minute? Do you know Adam is beginning a
little bit as Japanese things like a little too? It's pretty
you know this the women in the secretarial pool think he's a
racist. Oh, yeah. Well, totally well and put up Why are you
laughing? Shut up. Who do? We do have a few other executive
producers to thank and let's thank them including sir JD
$333.33. A transpacific ITM to you Adam and John LIFO greetings
for producers sir JD in an undisclosed location in the
Central California coast where several clans have met to launch
a new couple into the universe. I can hear the Pacific Ocean
crashing on the background why compose this message as I wreck
reflect on the celebrations of the day and the sounds of the
waves from Japan coming to the California coast. I think of how
we are all connected by oceans there are ways and ideas we
exchange and the time we spend together please give a jobs jobs
jobs little girl yay, commerce shot celebration. Shout out to
Matt and Amy as they stay start their married life by the sea in
the same way that my wife and I got married 17 years ago. Keep
up with the great work kittens encourage jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. Now search ad
mentions this donation is the first of his matching donations
for the slash in a JD challenge. He wants a PDF link in the email
to the show notes. Which I think we can do. Okay. Executive Order
9066 To master reflect this shows recent Japan America focus
can
you remind me to do that after the show's over because I'm
gonna be so tired. Yeah,
I'm putting it down right now. My boss had to remind you to see
Sir JD Okay. Chris Spears 333 33 in Austin, Texas to keep Austin
in the game. Greetings Jansa a little value for value finds you
well, my accounting is right. I think it was now call me sir.
No, the extra penny is thrown in.
Okay. I think I got that here. It's actually it's actually 10
yen
10 yen pan yen. Oh, please regale us All with Lord DeVore
extra quest for obedience. Thanks.
Okay, I didn't I thought he wanted something else wasn't
there?
Well, he says it's impossible to find that clip from Charlie
Rose's interview with Pentalobe crews
Pentalobe Pentalobe John,
that's what I said. Yeah, pen Hello. Hello. Hello, obey, you
will obey you will obey me about the sexuality. It's in your DNA.
You've got karma Pentalobe
was that was from Pentalobe.
Oh, it was Angelina Jolie, I think. Right. Right,
right. Yeah, I don't know. I never saw his interview with
her. The but just
to hear you say Pena Lopez. Funny enough.
Pentalobe cantaloupe. That's the new way I'm pronouncing it.
Yeah, I'm good with Dave. Oh, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 333 33.
Nice. Please refer to me as Dave. Oh, this donation elevates
me from Boehner to donor I started listening to the show
around episode 100. And we just read this note. I feel a shame
for not donating earlier but I've been living a mac and
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figured it was a sign. So here's a long overdue donation to the
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increase great job and continue to report what no one else ever
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please send me some karma for my fledgling mechanical and
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Okay, okay, go ahead. Good luck with that. Definitely karma for
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It's kind of sucks because you'll be in Detroit and you
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Yeah, it's ruining the show. And I wonder why somebody told
Mignon about this problem.
Quick PR mention there's a an I'll play the song at the end of
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And so this is going to be on on iTunes just a quick little
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Back it with some C span expose That means watching as they
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I'll play that to the TSA is grabbing ball sacks from the
back
from behind. Yeah. Hey, oh, and thank you all very much. Our
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had people in the mouth
as funny today DeMasters daughter took us out. But she's
12. But she has she she knows the subway system and the trains
like the back of her hand. Of course. She says yeah, but she
also has, you know, she knows how to use the Google Maps and
everything and she's and she's you know, she speaks fluent
Japanese and fluent English. And, and she took me to what
took us both to Akihabara where the ham radio stores are the
oldest Yeah. Oh, oh, my god. Oh my god. I
tell I didn't predict exactly your reaction.
Oh my god. If I said Mickey took pictures of me just freaking
out. There was still nothing but ham radio. The other reaction
I predicted which is did you do this one, which is why can we
get this in the United States?
Yeah, no, I there was some. Yeah. But also the little
alleyways where you can just buy every component you can imagine.
That's what they used to sell the bootleg style anyway. Now,
this kid is amazing. It's just taken us all over the but we had
lunch at this at the old railway station. in Akihabara.
If I'm pronouncing Akihabara,
Akihabara, that's right, thank you. Akihabara. So the the old
railway station, which is from now 1912. And they've converted
that into stores and a restaurant. And so you're eating
you're having and you can only choose from three things on the
menu. And then you're sitting there and then trains are going
by on either side. It's just quite bizarre. We went into the
game arcade, which is kind of like Pachinko Hall. But for
kids.
Yeah, they start them early. Oh, yeah. Oh, man,
the five floors of noise. Just insane noise. But it was funny.
At a certain point. She just starts spouting off stuff. She's
like, Hey, I think Mickey said shut up or something to me. She
says Don't you have to say slave after that? It was slave
apparently de mastered, listens to the show in the mornings. And
before she goes to school, so she always hears the Shut up
slave bit just before she she has to leave. But it was it was
pretty fascinating
today. No, that would be good. I'm gonna see those photos.
And have you ever seen the the traditional candy making?
No, I don't know if I have not. Yeah, yeah. on Santa Cruz
Boardwalk. They make Taffy with some crazy machine that
stretches this trigger. Now. But you're talking about no.
Yeah, they do it by hand. All right, Bob. Washington's right
where we've got we got pictures, we'll put the pictures up.
Anyway, a lot of people here are talking about the Vietnam
Chinese situation. Because that, of course, is interesting what's
happening here and in the Asian regions.
So what about it? Tell me because I do have a clip that
actually has a little bit of this.
Well, people are. Well, of course. So right now what's
happening is Vietnam. The Vietnamese are just going nuts
about how the Chinese invading their territorial water with big
right with a lot of big oil rigs. Yeah. And, and, of course,
as we discussed on Thursday, that Abbaye the Prime Minister,
Prime Minister of Japan, I think, right. President or Prime
Minister,
Prime Minister, Prime Minister, I believe
he is now trying to keep up I'll look him up while you're
talking. i Please do. Prime Minister I think he's
operations is Parliament's.
So he's trying I need to change Article Nine of the Constitution
here, which will allow Japan to create war machinery again and
build an army and go to war. And obviously, the Prime Minister
America likes this. So the thing that is being said here is wow,
this is very interesting. How come America is not jumping all
over China like they're doing with Russia and in Ukraine?
Where's the help? Oh, why are they doing that? Now? We got an
email from one of our producers.
If you if you want to go in that direction after you have read
the email, I do have the call and collection are good. Yeah,
that's good. Perfect, which we'll talk about exactly this
issue.
Yes. From one of our producers who requested to remain
anonymous international schools are being closed. Students being
sent home. My kids school, the mostly of Korean kids have had
their houses attacked. A number of persons from Taiwan, China,
Korea, in Vietnam. Okay, Taiwan, China, Korea are moving to
hotels in Saigon many waiting for free flights to leave some
drive into the Cambodian border to cross into Cambodia. Lots of
international non Asian firms are asking staff to take leave
pulling managers out of Vietnam shoe guys like Adidas are
pulling staff out of Vietnam. And the so this is serious
business. And it's not just the Chinese that they're angry.
They're just the Vietnamese are just pissed.
Well, I luckily we do have on Channel 60 in the Bay Area,
which has international fees, a Vietnamese news outlet, which I
will now record. Okay.
Let's get to your clips because it looks like you got a lot of
things here.
I have a bunch of clips from that. Professor Cohen, who is
the guy that we go to guide now concluded that he is
representing the Soviet Union or Soviet Union. Yeah, the Soviet
Union. He's representing Russia's, I believe he's a
Russian.
Well, he's a professor of again, but he's, he's a professor of
Russian studies.
Yeah. And he lives in Russia. And I think he hits most of the
stuff on the money. Yeah. But he talks about let's play. I do
have a play this. This is the carry pre Cohen bitching about
Russia clip. Okay. Okay.
It's very hard to reconcile that Russia is now making the
argument that Ukraine ought to reduce not have an election or
postponed election because of the violence that's taking
place. But Russia is full whole hog behind having an election in
Syria, where there is far worse violence.
Well, those bastards. Yeah. Hey, Siri. So yeah, right. Well, he
they, this is not, this is Carrie granting. And now this
next thing was Cohen discussing that specific clip. He was on
the net. By the way, there's 123456 of these Cohen clips.
Some of them are short. But this was on democracy. Now. Believe
me, I had to do a lot of work to get these down. And he was on
for 45 minutes. Yeah.
And the guy is good, though. And I don't understand. We thought
he would be killed. Yeah, I thought he'd
be killed by now. But here he is commenting. This is Carrie
Cohen, on carry commenting on carries little discussion there.
That was Carrie,
there was Carrie, who has now become Secretary of War, not
Secretary of State peace post diplomat. And I don't recall in
the last two weeks, him uttering a word about any kind of
diplomacy. why he's so embattled. I don't know. I don't
know when he made that statement. But let's remember
what Putin said Was it last Thursday? Because this clip that
you showed may be a little out of date. Putin said it's very
important. Russia had been opposed to the presidential
election in Ukraine on the 25th. That's what two weeks from
yesterday. I think he spoke on Tuesday, this was him speaking.
This is a little out of date, because on Thursday, I believe
Putin said, essentially that you want to have a so called
presidential election in Ukraine. It is a crazy idea. But
please go ahead. We won't interfere. And it is a crazy
idea, and actually why it's a bad idea. Now remember, we've
drawn a new red line, we've said to Russia, if you interfere in
any way, with this presidential election in Ukraine, we will
impose more sanctions on you. So that election is very important
to the United States because we want to bestow some legitimacy
on the unelected government in Kyiv by giving an elected
president what kind of election he can take place in eastern
Ukraine because we a national election, western and eastern
central, what kind of election can take place, while Caribbean
tanks are firing on Ukrainian cities? Now you can say well,
they'll stop firing on the day of election, but what's going to
be the end parked on East Ukrainians, particularly since
they have no candidate. Their parties have are on the run. The
two candidates who proposed to represent Eastern Ukraine in the
national election, two weeks ago went to a TV studio, like this
one in Kenya, to participate in national debate, and were beaten
up in the streets before they can enter the building. This is
a presidential election.
We should try. Oh, yeah. I was gonna say we should try that
here. Yeah, just beat these candidates. That's
a good idea. Elizabeth Warren should be beaten up.
By the way before, before you move on. I just want to mention
that in the show notes, I have the full text of Senate Bill
2277. The Russian aggression Prevention Act of 2014. Which
essentially, no matter what happens, we're going to we're
going to surround these guys.
Yeah. Well, until they give up Snowden. But that's his my
theory.
Yeah, that reasonable theory,
let's resume, Cohen can deplaning this part two of his
elections, screed show.
So what's more likely to happen? If this election happens, it
will be a step toward the further partition of Ukraine,
because the president elected will be the president of key of
Western Ukraine and parts of central Ukraine. And he or she
because there's a woman candidates, I don't think she
has a chat chance will not be recognised by Eastern southern
Ukraine, and that has absolutely nothing to do with food. So that
will be a step toward partition. If you really want to solve the
problem. You go back to the European Union proposal in
February, that you have elections in December, you give
everybody six, seven months a chance to organise. And you have
parliamentary elections, as well. Because the United States
is right. Democratic theories, right. The essence of democratic
government is not a president, but a parliament. You need a new
parliament. They've got a rump parliament and they need a new
constitution. A president can't enact a new constitution. In
Ukraine, you need some sort of constitutional assembly? Why are
they rushing to May? And the only reason is, is the United
States wants to give some legitimacy to this government
key. I think in political scientist, any constitutional
lawyer would tell you gotta wait. You've got to do how
he's a constitutional lawyer.
So he's making good points again, yeah. He, there's a go.
You were actually listen to this little side clip, when he
mentions Kissinger apparently has been in the news making some
noise. And he establishes a very interesting point here, when he
talks about Kissinger and this whole Ukrainian situation you
might want to play that.
We used to have a lot of so called senior statesman wise
men, wise women to presidents turned to an emergency. I can't
think of one whom Obama turns to now you've got him to Kissinger
Think what you will about his past. But he sees Putin
personally and alone two times a year they talk. Kissinger comes
from Europe from Germany, he understands what's going on.
He's preaching the course of negotiation. And Obama,
Kissinger, I in my understanding is important, maybe wrong. Obama
has declined to see Kissinger why in this crisis, when we can
imagine war with Russia. Would you not want to spend an hour
with Kissinger?
Oh, yeah. Because Obama wouldn't know what to say he doesn't
understand what's going on. And this is not his move.
I know, a knee and Kissinger would say you're being used by
the neocon. Yeah.
And I'm, I'm a little surprised. Cohen doesn't just say, hey, is
because Obama really is not running the show. It's Kerry
who's being run by Neo cons in the dailies
through the 45 minutes, he never actually came out and said that,
but he can't eat, but he does a lot of innuendo. And he kind of
suggest certain things. The next one, which is Cohen, on the
roundtable, he he puts us at ease, leaving it up to the
listener to get suspicious instead of just coming right out
and say what we do, the
false statement he made. And the premise on which American policy
has been made is that Putin attacked Ukraine and began this
whole mess. Whatever you think about what the outcome should
be, that is just factually untrue. All of this began when
the United States in Europe asked Ukraine back last
November, to make the decision between Russia and the European
Union that triggered the protests that led to this.
Here's the tragedy. People are dying, when there's a perfectly
accessible way to negotiate. And it's not my idea. It's the idea
proposed by angle Umer called Germany that there'll be a
roundtable. And Putin in Ukraine of all the conflicting Ukrainian
forces that would be West Ukraine key of eastern Ukraine.
And Putin said a few days ago and that famous statement where
he said he pulled the troops back, and we say he's lying. And
then somebody said, We gotta wait for the satellite pictures.
He said, I just talked to Merkel. And Merkel says there
should be a roundtable in Ukraine of all the combatants in
Ukraine. And he said, I agree, let's do this. So Russia, once
these negotiations inside Ukraine, Germany, the most
powerful nation in Europe wants from the EU wants from
Washington assignment, what is going on?
She Yeah, well as because this is not being run from
Washington.
Well, he makes that pretty clear at least. P. He goes a little
bit straight to discuss something which I clipped for
the specific reason that I realised that what he's talking
about is something I remember as a kid and has been completely
wiped out of American history, or holidays and everything in
between. And now I'm like suspicious about it because it
isn't a minor occurrence or a minor event but play calling on
V Day we have a whole country's says to you. I'm sorry. Nothing
I didn't say anything but that but she said she stopped and I
want to mention something else. This is he's really discussing
when Putin on V Day which was May 8 or ninth went to crime.
What do I want to explain what V Day is, in Europe days when the
Nazis were defeated? And what used to be a holiday in the
United States, we had two holidays. One was V J day and V
then V Day, which was then called V Day change because we
dropped the other one, and then they dropped them both and we
don't celebrate either one of these things. We could you know,
you just have Armistice Day two, which is also done. Cohen is
talking about when Putin went to Crimea, they all are news
outlets oh he went to Crimea just did that just to was to
rile up the some I don't know there was a bunch of poor
reporting on it but he went there specifically for this
holiday. Play this
of our whole country says a year when all the citizens here got
the PW was loopy decided to be together with Russia.
That's Russian President Vladimir Putin in Crimea Friday,
Professor Stephen Cohen.
I have a flashback. Not exactly like this. But when I was a kid
growing up in Kentucky in Indiana, we had something called
V Day Victory in Europe Day. That's what Russia calls Victory
Day. It represents the victory over Nazi Germany in Europe. We
seem not to do the day in this country anymore. In the
Spielberg and Hanks make a movie about World War Two. And for
Russia, May 9, it was made in America because the time
difference is the most sacred secular holiday. I've been going
and living in Russia for 40 or 50 years. It's true that the
government going back to the communists and carrying through
Putin manipulate this holiday. It's absolutely true for their
own political purposes. But this is one holiday that 95% 90% of
Russians feel in their hearts. It's deeply meaningful, even
though it's almost 70 years after World War Two. And it's
meaningful because when we say 27 point 5 million Soviet
citizens died, defeating Nazi Germany in Europe and it was the
Russians who defeated the Soviet Union who defeated Nazi Germany
in Europe. That That means that virtually every family in Russia
lost somebody whom they still mourn. Putin was tapping into
this on May 9, but it's authentic is meaningful. And my
when I look at these films, I remember it tells us how
different our two countries are we no longer memorialise World
War Two, except for Hollywood movies, whereas for Russia, it's
it's just a sacred holiday.
We barely memorialised Iraq. We let our veterans die waiting for
treatment.
Some sort of our allies are so pathetic,
sad. It makes me
mad. I thought it was weird. And then the last clip, which is the
one where he's discussing the tanks in the eastern part of the
country of the of Ukraine. Now, this unit listen to all this
together, you realise that this is a manipulative situation.
We're behind probably all of it. And he thought he talks about
Newland and all the rest of these people over there sweating
bugs, but
But does he call her Nudelman?
No, he does not call her Nudelman which is a huge
blunder. But that's but here he is on the war crimes thing and
again, he's been you know, he's he does this a subtle pointing
of the finger but he never really comes down and says what
we say the context
is of what has happened since the key of government. Now let
our let our viewers be clear this key of government is the
government that came to power with out legality. You can
accept it or not accepted. But it is the government that is
embraced 100% by Washington, and by Europe, it is our government,
this government sent troops to eastern Ukraine, that's about
seems to be about 10 15,000. Maybe not that many, but tanks,
armoured personnel carrier, heavy artillery, with
helicopters flying over with government, since tanks into a
city when there's nothing happening in the city to provoke
you, and here's the second part of the story personally is
outrageous. Me. I don't know how your viewers and listeners think
what did the United States government say? Did he say we
regret the loss of life? Did he say there should be an
investigation? No, it said, he has the right to restore law and
order. Now, I would stretch this out if a war crime was committed
in Odessa, by the burning of 40 people to death in the building,
and my tanks entering the streets of Maria pool, or any
other city. If that's a war crime. We didn't commit it. But
we applauded it. And there's something wrong there no matter
who's right and wrong in this dispute.
Yeah. Yeah. And if the American public were informed at all,
they would probably agree with the professor. Yeah, no,
we wouldn't put up with an American public. You the way you
deal with him is you keep them uninformed. You bring up the net
neutrality thing, give that front page and let the American
does background go on with these Neo cons who have been screwing
them the American taxpayer of nothing else? Yeah, for over
probably 20 years. It just it's unbelievable.
Let me let me read a few, just an abbreviated version of Senate
Bill 2277, which may be cited as the Russian aggression
Prevention Act of 2014. This is where we're headed. This clearly
spells out what the next steps are. So I'm just going to give
you the table of contents and if there's something you want to
dive into, we can do that. reinvigorating the NATO alliance
strengthening United States assistance and force posture in
Europe and Eurasia. United States efforts to strengthen
NATO Alliance expanded support for Poland and the Baltic
states, accelerating implementation of European and
NATO missile defence efforts strengthening United States
German cooperation on global and European security issues,
deterring further Russian aggression in Europe, United
States policy towards Russian aggression and Europe sanctions
to address continuing aggression of the Russian Federation toward
Ukraine, additional sanctions in the event of increased
aggression by the Russian Federation towards Ukraine and
other countries, which is all the banks now, limitation on
Russian access to United States oil and gas technology,
diplomatic measures with respect to the Russian Federation
support for Russian democracy and civil society organisations.
That's a big one, by the way. Yeah, that's the NGOs that's all
the bullcrap riot, Riot organisations, hardening Ukraine
and other European and Eurasian states against Russian
aggression, which involves military assistance for Ukraine,
sense of Congress unintelligent sharing with Ukraine major non
NATO ally status for Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova. Expanding
security force training assistance and defence
cooperation with key non NATO states this is essentially the
making states who are not NATO into NATO. By extension,
expediting national natural gas exports, European and Eurasian
energy independence, Crimea annexation nonrecognition
support for democracy and civil society organisations and
countries of the former Soviet Union we go again that's another
one of those lovely ones and expanding broadcasting in
countries of the Soviet of the former Soviet Union.
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Yes. What is wrong? My comrade John what is wrong?
Oh, who are the sponsors of the bill? One moment I have to open
up text again. Yeah,
it's it's late here. That's why I forgot to do that hold on,
sponsors of the bill. I'm gonna let's see. What do you think?
Well, John McCain would be on my shortlist. Oh, well, the
DA Mr. Corker, Mr. McConnell, Ms. Aodh. Mr. Hooven le Kelly,
who's
in the in the McCain club?
Yep. Well, Mr. Blood, this is alphabetical. Oh, no, it's not I
guess Mr. Rubio, Mr. McCain. Mr. Cronin. McCain Horning. Mr. Corn
Of course, Mr. Graham, Mr. Kirk Mr. Barrasso? Okay. They the
douchebag. Mr. Reach Mr. Coates, Mr. Roberts, Mr. Inhofe Mr.
Portman, Mr. Alexander Mr. Thune Mr. Isaacson Mr. Hatch, Mr.
Flake, Mr. Johnson of Wisconsin.
Please welcome please welcome Mr. Johnson of Wisconsin, the
wheels of steel everybody here at Voice of Russia.
Again, Okay, I gotta say trade just little just to put McCain
back into the picture here. So they had a commerce committee
had a meeting about a new term. I'd never heard this term
before, but they're talking about malvertising malvertising
malvertising. Now divertido
Wait a minute, Comrade, John, what is this malvertising you
speak of?
Malware baptising malware plus advertising, making metal
advertising making malvertising.
This sounds very good. It sounds like a NATO complaint against a
Russian Federation.
So in fact,
it's something I like doing but it's something that like,
yeah, you can you can back it off. Okay. You can bring it back
in when you feel like but I just writing it for now, let me just
get these three clips out of the way because these are short. And
they make the point is very interesting. Listening to John
McCain is such a douchebag. I'm going to point out a couple of
very interesting things he does. First, it's really great that he
does what he does, which is he he's got three people that
testifying in front of this group of the one of these
commerce malvert malvertising advertising guys, so they had a
guy from Yahoo who had eyeballs one way one was half closed one
was up and down. Google get your eyes straight. The Yahoo guy and
he had he looked like Charlie Chase if anyone who remembers
that character. And then there was a Google guy who was just a
just a bald, brown headed little like an accountant guy. And then
there's some guy from some organisation I never heard of.
And he was talking about how bad those guys from Google and Yahoo
were. So it starts off with with McCain just giving these guys
grief. Especially this is going after the Google guy who
apparently is just going to disagree. There's a Yeah, I
disagree. That is going up. No, I disagree. It's going down. And
then did you did you make a fool of the clown of this guy with
his first step, which is McCain versus Google guy.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the witnesses. If you put that
chart back up about the increase in mouth advertising. Witnesses
agree that the problem is getting worse rather than
better. Would you agree Mr. Salem?
I would not. I would not agree.
Did you put your microphone a little closer please.
Thank you, that would help. I don't agree the problem is
getting
better. The one thing that was getting worse
I'm sorry it's not thank you. I don't believe that it's getting
worse. You don't believe that chart then? I have not seen that
chart. I saw that from the report. Our indication where we
actually show you're saying that chart is inaccurate that's not
the chart that's not the information that I have sir. I
see.
Maybe you can provide the committee with the information
do you have Mr. stablish
serve our data has been pretty much steady on the kinds of
attempts that we've seen coming inbound.
What I need a definition of malvertising
malvertising is these eight if you go and you there's an ad and
you click on it and the next thing you know you're on a page
that's downloading a virus or it's it's talking to malware
malware,
it's malware. Why is McCain why is this Why is McCain spending
his time talking to these guys about this? Who cares what is it
what is the point of this today?
Good you walked right into that one? Well like this is like a
clip
is called the show John is what do we do things we ever
tempted if seen coming inbound?
Would you agree that these probably the worst attacks come
from overseas specifically Russia? Wait a minute.
I thought it was China on the line you stepped on it said
bless the play the end again. You said Russia Yeah, I said
Russia. No, I
didn't step on it. Now. Now
the guy that no part three that's where he jumps the shark.
Now McCain turns into a dick and I want to point out something
here.
Wait a minute, turns into
what am I I'm sorry, I was a huge blunder. McCain now goes
back to his dickish nature and he starts to harass these guys.
And, and one guy makes the point and I'm going to make the point
is that most of the crap that really as bad comes from of all
places, which is never mentioned, Ukraine. In fact, if
you talk to the if you talk to the FBI or anybody about this,
they when they're investigating a lot of these problems that are
online, as soon as they see the UK of Ukraine IP address, they
stop investigating because they can do nothing you cannot get
into the into Ukraine to catch any criminals that are dealing
with this. And it's always about Ukraine. Now the one guy and I'm
just gonna give you a kind of a clue on what he's gonna say.
He's gonna say, Well, yeah, a lot of it comes from Eastern
Europe, former Soviet Union countries, but to McCain doesn't
hear any of that it's all Russia. And Russia is not the
bad actor here. But but he's making this point. Again, again,
this is part of this giant scheme, because I believe I'm
maybe the only one that thinks this, because of Snowden.
We see attacks from all around, it's usually very difficult to
have accurate to accurately
have no accurate data as to where it comes from. It's good
to have accurate data as to where dipole and where does it
come from?
We see these kinds of attempts from all around the world. Well,
you're right. We do see a lot from Eastern Europe in the
former Russian republics. Well, thank
you for that. How about humans to say,
yes, we also see a lot of the malware itself will come from
servers that are also in Russia, and also,
so this is really an international issue as well as a
domestic issue, I would argue. Suppose that some individual is
the victim of malware. Mr. Stamos Does, does Yahoo have any
responsibility for that?
We absolutely take responsibility for our user
safety, which is why we do all the work we do
so someone loses their bank account, you reimburse them.
Douchebag sorry. No, it's
perfect. Now he's the other guy that Google guy who is already
being badgered he he's the one who coughed up Russia when they
the other guy wouldn't do it. The Yahoo guy says no, US
Eastern Europe performer Russian they wouldn't say Ukraine
because I'm sure they were told not to. And meanwhile then then
and and McCain is such a dick with these guys. And I maybe
it's warranted in some manner because they're just talking in
gibberish and Buzz terms. You know,
these they clearly these things are always set up and he had his
shield he was probably just being a dick because the guys
weren't playing along and we're just repeating the Russia
Russia, Russia, Russia mean Yeah. And that's
why he went when the Google guy said Russia, he went right back
to the Yahoo guy and started haranguing him again, right,
right. Right. Right.
Cuz I wasn't playing ball. Yeah. So that's, that's what's going
on Congress.
I'm sure you you saw this and I just want to make mention of it
because I it's quite honestly, I just slipped my mind to mention
it on Thursday. Younger son of Vice President Joseph Biden,
yeah. has taken the position of member of the board of directors
and legal adviser to Burisma Holdings Limited the largest
private natural gas production company in Ukraine. Hunter
Biden. Now here's the here's the cool one joins another American
who recently became a director of the firm Devon Archer. Do you
know Devon Archer is
no you got me on this one. This is a good catch.
Top fundraiser for Secretary of State John Kerry during his 2004
presidential bid and college roommate of Kerry's stepson
doesn't play so well. When you've got the sons of the two
top douchebags running the show. Well, actually Biden not running
anything but he is the pretty boy who has to show up and give
everyone an attaboy that they're capitalising on their career
shameless. They have no
20 or 30 years ago, shameless
is exactly the right guest
because the the New York Times The Washington Post, they'd be
all over this with editorials. These people are shameless
because they can get away with anything they want to do. I
think that's why Hillary's running, because she knows
there's nothing but problems with that Clinton Library and
its support by the Saudi government and all the illegal
campaign contributions that were probably funnelled to bill when
he was running for president and the Saudis who we've supported
in every way possible. And they it but she's thinking now, who
cares? Nobody's going to give a crap about Bill as corrupt
politics by may not even have to kill him.
You can't change the Red Book just yet. I just,
you know, mentioning Yeah, she has I can see, I'd have to kill
him Uma, Uma, Uma, Uma, Uma, we might not have to kill him.
That's fine like that.
But of course, this is ramping up on all sides we have the
United Nations. And now coming with an alarming, alarming
document about the alarming deterioration of human rights in
eastern Ukraine. Of course, of course, human rights. Yes, of
course. What else do we have? Are the Friends of Syria? No,
screw it. Screw all these guys actually did have, I have one
little carry thing? He is trying. So it's a one. It's a
twofer. We got to get the we still got to do something with
Syria. Because we no matter what we're not, we now have the ISIL
or whatever it's called. They're in eastern Syria.
And calming down. There we go. I don't know what we're gonna do.
This is a bad trend for
oh, no, no, here's, here's what you do.
I have seen evidence. I don't know how how verified? It's not
verified? Yeah, it hasn't been.
But I've seen evidence,
the Secretary of War, right.
But I've seen the raw data that suggests raw data has its raw
data may have been, as Francis suggested a number of instances
in which chlorine has been used in the conduct of war.
Now, hold on a second, he says, I have seen evidence raw data
that suggests chlorine has been used.
And if it has, if it has, if it
could be proven, which we're working on,
then that would be against the agreements of the chemical
weapons treaty against the weapons convention that Syria
has signed up to.
And that would be reason for us to do his job, John, his job now
is to gear this thing up because Obama failed, or, or actually,
Obama dropped the ball, drop the vol. and now it's like, hey,
Kerry, Hey, dude, listen up. You gotta we gotta get Syria. We got
this. We're losing face here.
If it is proven that chlorine was used as a chemical, chemical
and war, which is prohibited, what will the Syrian Government
face? What steps can you take?
Whoa, what do you think the answer will be? Except bomb.
It has been made clear by President Obama and others.
Let's just pass it off to Obama here.
Use would result in consequences. We're not gonna
pin ourselves down to a precise time, date, manner of action.
But there will be consequences if it were to be proven,
including, I might say things that are way beyond our control.
They have nothing to do with us. But the International Criminal
Court and others are free to hold him accountable. And as you
know, we have a resolution.
Oh, we're all in on the International Criminal Court on
us, right, the United
Nations with respect to culpability for crimes against
humanity, atrocities in the course of this conflict. So one
way or the other,
we'll go one way or the other. Oh, gotta go bomb. I'm
here. We'll be accountability.
Accountability. Yeah, this guy, we got to go on record. We just
have to say this guy is it is a horrible man. And the worst
thing is he believes he's doing the right thing.
I don't know anybody believes.
I find the guy to be he does a terrible. This. This guy's not a
diplomat. He's not done anything diplomatic. I think Cohen has
that. Right. He's just a sabre sabre rattling Secretary of War.
And this is nonsense. And we know that the series they never
had cash caches of chlorine gas, which is a very old fashioned
poison gas, they had the new modern stuff, which is all being
hauled away and I'm sure they'd like to blow up a couple of
those canisters, but I'm sure the Russians are keeping a good
eye on it. So that doesn't happen. And so they've dreamed
up they made somebody have somebody manufacture some
chlorine gas, which you can do in your kitchen by the way, it's
not that difficult with some with some Clorox. Yes, well,
we'll put a recipe in the show notes.
Which we won't do that you can do it and you can look it up but
just beside the point. This is like this is such a phoney deal.
This is a this is desperation making up stuff at the end and
claiming this gassing and this you know, because they found
probably can find some evidence that chlorine was used somewhere
and they can extrapolate Yeah, the French guys are all in on
this. The French and the Americans want to do this for
some reason. There's something there's something afoot. Yeah,
well, this guy I think good Bashir is gonna get grabbed He's
gonna be fine. He's gonna He's gonna be pissed.
Well, I don't know exactly what's going to happen, but it's
clear that they're trying to go the NATO un route. So he has a
resolution and, and we just need to get some proof and once
again, but the proof thing is it always falls flat because these
UN reports they, they talked to some people on Skype and then
they talked to the guy who's the Syrian observation centre there
in London, one guy in a in a in a flat in London. And we've
talked about him, and then that's a proof and no, it's not
enough for anyone to buy it. You know, you've you've got to have,
look,
they can do better. Let's put it this way. They could do a much
better job of setting this guy
they need they need to do the baby's incubator thing. It no
one cares. They're too busy worrying about the Netflix
buffering. You need some real outright heat. I'm telling you,
gays difficut This is so obvious if Bashar Al Assad was killing
gays, you'd have an outro you'd have people getting pissed off.
Yeah, or dogs. Dogs is
pretty good. Stray dogs. Gotta get the stray dogs in there.
Hey, wait a couple of balance. You need balance. We
got a couple of proclamations that I'd like to talk about.
This has been a crazy month for proclamations, presidential
proclamations. First of all, a continuation of the National
Emergency with respect to Burma, that has been signed into the
federal register because of course Burma is so dangerous to
our national security. Which just means the only reason we're
doing that is because the Chinese are pipelining through
Burma. So that's why we need to have a national emergency
occasionally to blow something up to drone something and some
terrorists near the pipeline. Present proclamation 60th
anniversary of Brown versus Board of Education. You know
what that is right. That was the segregation in schools.
desegregation desegregation President proclamation World
Trade Week 2014. commercial ties build partnerships between
nations and spur growth across the world here in America trade
bolsters our small business, which makes up 98% of our
exporters and create nearly two out of three every three new
jobs. During World Trade Week we celebrate these benefits. We
redouble our efforts to promote trade while protecting workers
safeguarding the environment and opening markets to new goods
stamped Made made in the USA that of course is all about the
the trade agreements that we're working on Armed Forces Day,
which was on May 16. By presidential proclamation did we
celebrate? No. Did you even know was Armed Forces Day?
No, I didn't know I didn't do it yet. A VE day passed me by and
this generation has distinguished itself on mission
after mission tour after tour because of their heroism, the
core of al Qaeda is severely degraded and our homeland is
more secure. Okay, then we have presidential proclamation
Emergency Medical Services week. Wherever whenever crisis hits
the men or women of our emergency medical services, EMS
rushed to the scene. With unyielding steadiness, they
bring care to those who need it most. During emergency medical
services, we show our gratitude to the EMS practitioners who aid
our families, friends and neighbours in their darkest
moments. Now we have several EMS and other emergency services
people who will listen to the show. And 90s you have yes and
90% of their work is is spent showing up to people who call
911 You cannot refuse a 911 call. And usually these people
like hey, can you get my smoke from the table there? I'm too
weak to get up.
This is a fact.
President's proclamation it is also National Safe Boating Week.
If you didn't know that either, did you? Yeah, you
always got when you do this segment. I'm always like
befuddled because you're right. I don't know any of this during
National
Safe Boating Week. We also recognise the crucial work of
the United States Coast Guard to prevent boating accidents that
claim lives case cause injuries and damaged property. We think
they're partners across the nation. And we're getting down
to the wire here. This is the most important one I think and I
think this can be used and we have a new mean. This was for
yesterday. 10th International Day Against Homophobia and
Transphobia. This is new to me transphobia First, I would like
to explain the word for any whenever you have a phobia a
phobia is literally an irrational fear of something.
Yeah, irrational fear. I thought this word was appropriated
improperly from the get go I've never liked The Homo phobia,
nomenclature, homo hatred. There's all kinds of ways of
putting it. But generally speaking, that is not a fear.
It's a dislike or hatred or prejudice or, or disagreement,
or disagreements, a lot of different things. But of course,
everything is now homophobic and transphobic is again
appropriating the phobia or status stuff, but also
but also trans. I feel that the, the capture the hijacking of the
word trans is somewhat offensive trans phobia, it would
transportation, transmission. As a lot of trans is but now trans
is just transsexual
as we commemorate the 10th and let's not transvestite
toward, well, that would fall under trans. But that's not
meant here. 10 Daniel International Day Against
Homophobia and Transphobia, we recommit ourselves to the
fundamental belief that all people should be treated
equally, that they should have the opportunity to reach their
fullest potential, and no one should face violence or
discrimination no matter who they are. Or John. Yeah, who
they love.
Gotta get get that in there. Yeah, at a time, I am not gonna
go near them at
a time when tragically we are seeing increased effort to
criminalise or oppress LGBT persons. Yeah, like your
buddies. They're in Qatar, your buddies in Saudi Arabia and
replenish Nigeria, Uganda. Yeah,
yeah. God never done it said that word one about that. We
call on partners everywhere. Your show brings this up. Yeah.
And
that's because we are not transphobic we are truly we
truly are the only media outlet that I know of that talks openly
and honestly about the issues of LGBTQ IAP the only i you i defy
anyone show me trouble in paradise John. Trouble in
paradise. And I am of course referring to the $250 million
weblog known as first look the intercept. Trouble in paradise.
Marcy Wheeler. Yeah, quit. Yes. She
just got the job. Why did she quit? She won't say
well, that that, by the way discredit her enormously in my
book, she's, but I think she's actually afraid. I think she is
truly afraid to say what's wrong and what's happening. And hey,
ladies and gentlemen, these people this thing is dead. Glenn
Greenwald don't rap. He is not talking about it. Of course. How
hypocritical that No, he won't retweet anything or say, oh,
yeah, you know, here's what's going on. This thing is falling
apart. And something really, really bad is going on and
Greenwald wants to get out. And it's messed up and he's going to
do everything he can. I'm convinced of it. He's going to
do everything he can to avoid the whole thing. He's not even
gonna write for them anymore. It
It all began when they brought the guy in from the Gawker.
Yeah, the guy who says we're not gonna we're gonna hire or we're
not gonna hire whites. When he said, We need black people,
we're not gonna hire any more white Ernie, because we got
enough whites, no whites, and we're, by the way, no content,
we're not going to do anything until we what what are they
waiting for? They've got all these, they have a crapload of
writers, they don't need to hire anybody at all to be honest
about it. They got a crapload of guys that could be producing
something. And there's enough of them that could fill up this
thing very easily by just cutting them loose, but they
don't.
So what's happening now? Are they actually weird? Oh, because
it's it's exactly what we said it would be. It was the whole
idea was to silence these people to fix peer drive my car's
reputation, particularly when it comes to his involvement in
paying for what's going on in Ukraine for his his jihad
against WikiLeaks and, and eBay and PayPal. It's it's messy, and
it's going to hurt these people's careers. Glenn
Greenwald on Raph this guy dude stop stop with the stop and just
go back and write some stuff do something now the as his movie
and he's all he's all giddy. He's giddy that Sony is
purchased the which doesn't mean there's a movie by the way. He's
just they just purchased the rights. But Sony key was if you
go back and look at his writing he accused Sony of and actually
some of the same executives AB Pascal Doug Bell grad and the
team at Sony Pictures Entertainment. He accused them
of producing the ultimate hagiography with the when they
made the Zero Dark 30 But now of course it's the Glenn Greenwald
movie and he's Oh, it's all good. Now he hasn't talked about
how how he hated them then hypocritical douchebag and
here's the Glenn Greenwald all giddy all giddy with Jake
Tapper. They're talking about the movie.
So Glenn Greenwald, who's playing you who's playing Edward
Snowden in the movie version? There's all kinds of
speculation. I'm going to leave that to Twitter for the most
part.
He has an erection John, he actually has an election. He's
so happy about this. The leading
names that I've seen are Jared Leto for for Edward Snowden who
with whom I'm not really familiar.
I'm sorry he only won an Academy Award this year Glenn for Dallas
Buyers Club you're not familiar with his work but you know he's
but he doesn't give a shit because it's about who's playing
him really
familiar. And Edward Norton has been mentioned a lot for me but
yes, I'm but I'm much more handsome than Edward Norton.
He was also on Charlie Rose with the same spiel. Oh, do you got a
clip? No. No, I didn't get a clip because I find that
Greenwald is extremely hard to clip because he's, he has run on
sentences he AQa gag, gag, gag, gag, gag, gag, gag, gag, gag,
gag. Whatever stops Why does
anyone think this movie is going to be interesting? Why it's
gonna be it's not interesting. It's like the WikiLeaks movie
fail. No one cares,
though. The Wikileaks leaks movie was was terrible. And it
did there was no drama there. I mean, it's just a bunch of guys
no drama and Glenn Greenwald say there except for this note, the
Snowden story could be kind of by itself could be turned into
something if he had some good writers Dinoland brothers or
somebody? Yeah, I think you could make it I might be
fictionalised and it would be not the same not the real story.
The real story is boring.
Yeah, exactly if it anyway this is this Greenwald is not I can't
take another thing serious that he writes
and here's another thing that he needs any of these to stop
calling out his colleagues. You know, this is this is a good way
to go have to go back to becoming a lawyer man because
you're not gonna get hired anywhere with this type of
attitude. You got he's got this mighty how holier than thou? And
this whole drive my car thing is falling apart. No one's gonna
know what he's gonna be the most hated man. And it's all this.
It's a boomerang. Will
I have you had this? Go ahead. I brought this story up in the
show about two or three months ago, which is that I don't know
this for a fact. But listening to him talk I sense as possible
that he is never He wasn't a professional writer when he
began and he went when he went to the Guardian. I'm convinced
that the reason the Guardian didn't make a big fuss about
keeping him because that's what you'd want to do because he's a
big moneymaker for the paper. That was because he's a pain in
the ass to edit. He probably questions I know that some of
these writers, he may not put together a good argument he made
structurally be weak and so they have to work on it for him
because he can't write well, let's just theoretically, and
then when they start to mess with his copy, he makes a big
fuss. And there's nothing worse than a writer that just won't
let you edit him because it's like, oh, no, you can't do that
because I wanted to use this with this way because this guy
was Glenn Greenwald. Who do you think you're editing anyway? I'm
good. You know, you're you're a nothing you're a No buddy editor
and you're editing me. You shouldn't be ashamed of
yourself. I want to talk to the boss. This woman trying to edit
me and she's an idiot. I mean, that kind of guy is not a
welcome person in a newspaper. Because it's newspapers are just
a machine to produce copy. meaningless crap, literally.
Yep. That goes out as fast as it can. And I don't think he
performed well in that regard.
While we're on that, I think the New York Times is falling apart
too. I think this jewel Abrams the hump the Hummer getting.
I think it's now name them getting I was looking at
some flips over they were talking about this on the I do
have Do I have a clip on this? I do have one clip. This is women
in the news. This was a woman that used to be the editor in
chief of the Chicago Tribune bitching about the fact that now
there's no women editors in any of the great papers and we're
going to listen to this
once a year actually, we could actually fill a dinner table of
those of us who are doing this work. And we're now with Jill's
dismissal. We have no women leading any newspapers and the
top 10 markets and in the top 25 We have only two
alright, may I say something to the women in journalism, be
happy and start working on not being part of some crazy, you
can't monetize the network any more people be your own little
entity. You're not going to make hundreds of millions of dollars,
but you can certainly like Marcy Wheeler. I think she made she
saved herself. She said her name Marcy thing is Marcy Wheeler,
isn't it?
I don't know who Marcy Wheeler is. Empty wheel. The
who left who left the?
Oh, I'm sorry. I've got you. Right. Yeah. No, the one who
quit? Quit unfortunately started. Yeah.
The you can if you're going to wait around to be part of and I
will say this. So male dominated ownership of newspapers, then
you're stupid. And I think women are much smarter than that. You
need to go and get your own thing going. It's time. I mean,
we may not be the driving Maseratis, and we may not be
taking towncars to lunches at Morton's. But we're getting by
and we're doing something and we're changing something. Isn't
that what it's about? Now you're all waiting for some news. Even
Marcy will say, Oh, if a billionaire wants to support my
work, fuck you get start working. Do it, you can do it.
Now, if you really got guts,
you this is the slavish mentality, this is like, I need
to get a job, I need a job, I need the affirmation of my slave
hood, by somebody that has more money than I do. They've
achieved this. And so when they like if you I want to be
supported by a billionaire, then I feel that affirmed in my slave
with this is slave mentality. And the women that are in the
newspaper business are just exhibiting it to an extreme,
which is one of the reasons by the way, I think a lot of them
are out because they couldn't produce newspapers that people
wanted to read. There's a lot to do with it. I mean, these
newspapers are failing because they stink. Yeah, they have big
giant fat newspapers. They're all about issues that nobody
gives a crap about, except some remote group of enclosed kind of
in these
get into, you know, what's out. And here's what you need to you
need to live a life of poverty for a while, eat some of your
possessions like I did. And I think, John, you certainly went
through some of that as we transitioned over the past six
years. And you'll learn something, oh, you know what you
might actually get in touch with your actual audience. And you'll
find out what their life is like. And then when you rise up
like the phoenix from the acids, such as the best podcast in the
universe,
then then you went straight.
They thank you then and you know what it can be done. And you
know how you do it. You do it with the people who care about
what you do.
I'm gonna show my mood by donating to no agenda. Imagine
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Unfortunately in but was it is it Bosnia? Herzegovina? They're
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It's really sad. It's like four metres of water or something.
They're drowning. It's eater. I'm not kidding. Of course,
it'll it'll Exactly. Did you see the Bitcoin stuff that happened?
Well, no, I do know that Glenn Beck is all over a bit going now
and other people and then Halsey minor, the old founder of CNET
who went bankrupt by big being a spendthrift I believe is decided
to open a bitcoin exchange Yeah, okay. Well
so I've been following the the mount Gox bankruptcy and the
purchase by the I told you the Brock pierce the the child star
who was involved in the Digital Entertainment Network, den
and roll are following Yeah, the
whole la gay scene that was all kind of weird in those days and
he's also been named in these lawsuits with the guy from the
movie director. This former child star Brock Pierce, I'm not
quite sure how it happened. But all of a sudden, he became the
the new executive director of the Bitcoin Foundation, and 10
members have now quit in disgust this whole thing is falling
apart. You know, when you get the former deputy child star
from the failed Digital Entertainment Network under
allegation of raping young boys, while he's not the sorry that's
not true. He's not under any suspicion of that but he's been
named in connection with this becoming the director of I think
he's not If not the executive director, director of the of the
Bitcoin Foundation everyone's quitting. It's falling apart.
Well, they they, some by they, in this case, I believe the
government decided to put him in I think he's in some sort of
like, not complete witness protection but his assumption he
did some sort of a deal Yeah, since some kind of programme for
sure. I'm sort of programmed right. They pushed him into this
because they need somebody that one of their guys into the head
of this so they can This is the catch criminals. I believe they
want to infiltrate the Bitcoin community. Oh, I
think I think they've succeeded. Well, they're sinking
the whole thing is the problem. So it's not where you're, if
you're going to create a honeypot, you want it to be what
it is a honeypot. So people come in they feel comfortable they do
these deals, buy and sell drugs and that you just track them all
and you got it made and making a lot easier on yourself but now
if these guys if you do something stupid like putting
this guy's they head of the Bitcoin Foundation morons.
You know, there's poorly thought out. Yeah, let's put him in as
the head because, you know, he's like a famous actor, and they'll
really like that.
Yeah, the ad the dead Hollywood thing always works. I had a
couple clips here from John Miller, John Miller was the He,
he worked at the NSA. And then he became the shill at CBS. And
famously did the the very weak softball piece for 60 minutes on
the NSA,
static piece of you say, nobody liked it.
And then he became the was the the terrorism strategist or some
weird title at for the New York Police Department?
Right? And they need a man in there. And then he's the man
and he is well, he's he says he's got some interesting things
to say, which don't quite all fit with the narrative. And he
has some, some promotion work that he's doing on behalf of
the, probably his former employers, if not the NSA, then
surely for the CIA. He was on a panel. And it was the panel
title was the changing face of terrorism. And here, the
question was posed, what keeps you up at night? No. It's almost
like if you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be? Well,
John Miller, what keeps you up at night
hits me up at night is inspire magazine goes out to 10s of
1000s of people who have varying levels of interest and
commitment to its content.
Now, let's just mention here inspire magazine doesn't go out
to anybody. It's a PDF that anyone can download. We're
pretty sure the CIA publishes this themselves. But it keeps
him up at night that this magazine which I read it, you
read it, I did not become radicalised. I did not all of a
sudden want to create bombs in the kitchen of my mom's.
And they can't get any traction for this magazine. So they keep
talking about it.
Ah, but wait, but wait.
Half of those 10s of 1000s are law enforcement and intelligence
officers and reporting. The other half are reading it saying
here is a set of instructions for a pressure cooker bomb, I
could put that at the Boston Marathon. I could take it to
Superbowl Boulevard on Broadway. And by the
way, we need we need to point out that the pressure cooker
bomb came after the bombing. Not before. So they were not too
radicalised into doing this because of inspiring magazine,
inspiring magazine jumped on the bandwagon so to speak.
Some of them are looking at the new issue, which has a
extraordinarily simple recipe, not for a pressure cooker bomb,
but for a large vehicle bomb.
Oh, large vehicle bomb. Thanks for the tip at home.
And the Boston Marathon model, or this RNA of problem is what
do you do when you're not dealing with al Qaeda? What do
you do when you're not dealing with an al Qaeda affiliate? What
do you do when you're dealing with height ism? Al Qaeda isn't?
It's like, it's like transphobia I have al Qaeda phobia is what I
have
Qaeda ism, they're a native model,
which is a movement and a message.
It's a movement, it's a message the message is
not an organisation that is spread wide, if not deep. And
when the conspirators may not be contacting the network or
reaching out through the channels that the US government
has been very good about intercepting? What if they're
just talking to each other? And how does that give them
opportunity to fly under your intelligence radar? And that is
what keeps me up at night. Because every night when I go to
bed, I go down that list and say what could we have missed today?
Where did we not have missed today? Which case that we were
about to step out of? Are we going to step out of just you
know a month too early? Because we need the resources to start
the next one. So just not sleeping that much.
Not sleeping. So he now he comes with something that was very
interesting to me. I did not know. But I appreciate his promo
wing. The new magazine
you know the best predictor of future behaviour is past
behaviour. And when you look to your inspire magazine or you
look at your Amazon magazine, which is the same publication
but from Turkey Taliban. If you look at the upcoming magazine,
which we've we haven't seen yet which is resurgence, which I
believe will be targeted.
So so he has not seen
this Medora thing is Glenn Greenwald gonna write
I think it's the first look first look property. It is the
resurgence magazine, which we have not seen yet. However,
somehow John Miller Newton's knows all about it.
We've we haven't seen yet which is resurgence, which I believe
will be targeted. Specifically looking at the market itself to
African American convert.
Hey Muhammad Muhammad Muhammad Muhammad Hey Mohammed. Hey
Muhammad
yeah
hello hello Muhammad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hello Mohammed it's
I always use are you in publishing? Always this? This
this? This is the jihadi Joe. Okay, why we need a new
magazine? This okay, this this inspire magazine not working no
more.
Oh no we do why Yeah. magazine we don't know magazine.
Why do you sound Asian?
I'm Asian.
It's too late for this. I can't do this right now. Let's listen
to this fine new publication.
And I say that because it's its lead off promotional video
featured Malcolm X.
Oh, yes.
Okay. Malcolm X.
So it's targeted at
Africans. If I was a member of the black community, especially
the Black might be outraged. I would be so hurt by it. I would
be. Yeah, it's just as not right.
Which I believe will be targeted. Specifically, looking
at the market itself to African American converts,
African American converts. African American convert
how many African American terrorists have we seen so far?
Yeah, but wait,
this well, zero. But now this is so disgusting. What he is now
saying. He's saying yeah, the African Americans are gonna get
self radicalised because
Malcolm X set them up let's get Malcolm X now the other day and
get seem to be pretty white. Yeah,
we need some black he's in there. I know. Let's do a video
oh look, here's the video.
If you and I would just realised once we learned that once we
learn to talk the language that they understand they understand
they will they will get the point get the point you can ever
reach a man if you don't speak his language.
This is the actual audio track from the research and
languages of his cocking a gun or shooting something
when you see nothing but shooting and fighting and
killing speaks the language of course you can come in when you
break you into as he has been doing find out what does this
mean? And once you know his language and then how to speak
his language, you get the point and you get the point. They only
know one language to rapid fire explosions at the finish line
learn the language that they understand. Understand, and then
when they come up on our doorstep to talk we can talk
so there you go. What was that? That was the only Ali Akbar
Yeah,
so the if you have to cut it, you have to kind of see the
videos in the show notes of course, bad enough with the
audio 618 dot na shownotes.com So the CIA who create these
these publications and put together this video, have now
determined that we are going to turn African Americans ie the
black people of North America into Muslim terrorists who will
start blowing stuff up and yelling Allahu Akbar.
And I say that because it's its lead off promotional video
featured Malcolm X they're gonna be talking the key to terrorism
if you know any
of this because he's part of the team that put it together once
you in the meeting.
Doesn't it make nothing but since the every by our isn't it
transparent to everybody that this is a scam.
The old al Qaeda, which is organising a complex two and a
half year planning art for $500,000 pot to collapse the
World Trade Centre is really the opposite should be low tech
should be low cost should be high yield,
low cost, low tech high yield
and the examples of that that apply to a place like Los
Angeles or New York or anywhere in between are the Mumbai
attacks. The active shooter model, the active shooter model
when you combine it with fire, you saw that used effectively by
the terrorists in Mumbai you saw it used again in Benghazi you'll
see it used again elsewhere. And all of these things are within
reach.
Do we play the clip I had I don't remember who we played it.
Of the Love the the testing going on at the Hayward mall in
Kenya? No in California down here like, oh, Hayward,
California. No, no, I
don't think we played that.
I will have to put that in the next show because it's one more
clip. It was. Yeah, we didn't play it. They were doing these
exercises. There was a kicker in there. Actually, I wish I had
that this was a while back, but exactly what he said. That's
what they're working on. And they have when I play this clip
of you too much, you can't get it from the May 11 show. Because
it has a little interesting at the end edge. That is exactly
what he's talking about.
Well, just to make it a little nuttier. I have one more clip by
this douche NorCal. And when you listen to this, he's he's
talking about terrorism events, like a movie producer slash
director. As if it really is a movie, that listen, we obsess.
They'll attack the water supply the water, the food supply,
they'll poison the milk in the cows, they'll do a biological.
They sit around up at night, while we're tossing and turning
thinking about what they're thinking and they're thinking
about I need to kill people. I need to have the streets running
with blood. I need people running and screaming I need it
on TV. I'm not worried about causing a blackout. I need
people to die. Terrorism is theatre. It requires a
storyline. It needs a big dramatic scene. It needs that
story arc and the big scene. The money shot involves blood and
bodies. And that's what they're thinking about. And thinking
about the Great.
Well, this is very interesting. So this cyber, you have
recorded a psychopath. Yes, yes.
And he's essentially saying that all of this cyber stuff, we
don't have to worry about it because these guys are only out
for blood. And that's all they do at night is like, Hey, can I
come over to your house and we'll strategize and some blood
it goes contract contract everything.
Definitely goes contrary to the money making ideas of Richard
Clarke and some of these other characters
you could say Deke
Deke well, he could they call him Dick Clark. Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, every time I did clock I think the dead gave us not this
way. I like Richard
by the way. Do you know that Casey Casey has gone missing?
He's disappeared from the face of the earth apparently or he's
been locked in a closet by his sister whoever Yes. holding him
hostage. That's
weird man or his wife. I
guess is we've got a crazy wife.
That's yeah. Didn't have the really hot wife like young
blonde with the weird hair.
Yeah, who was Wasn't she an actress or something?
She's still married to him. And she's the one that locked him
up. Maybe a guy could be wrong.
Freaky. I could happen to me, by the way. Oh, yeah. I'm
expecting it.
It's gonna happen to me at any moment.
Resources, no entry. Second half of the second
half of show. Oh, which we rarely
do. Yes. Well, interesting clip came my way. Following the news
that the HAARP array in Alaska is closing down. Yep, shutting
it down, shutting her down and HAARP Of course, long thought to
be a weather manipulation station. A system to fry people
at great distance. Not saying I don't believe in that. David
Walker, Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Air Force
in charge, get the right sound effect mechanism to keep
talking.
David Walker, Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Air Force
you're gonna want it you'll do it you can do that after you
listen to the clip is very short. He is going to tell us
why harp is no longer necessary. Do you have any idea why harp is
no longer necessary job
because they cost too much too expensive. Your $4 million
brings value out of harp in the past or you took over from the
Navy and managed it and actually did a number of experiment
campaigns up there and have finished our work that we're
interested in doing up there. We've moved on to other ways of
managing the ionosphere, which the heart was really designed to
do is to inject energy into the ionosphere be able to actually
control it
what happens when you control the ionosphere?
Well, there's a couple of things about this. One is that they
they haven't got it down yet. And on apparently A June 15
They're going to do their last experiment. June 15 coincides
six
week cycles X weeks
cycle Nice. So there you have it
now. Now this is being touted in the circles in which I often
travel as proof that there's weather manipulation going on
but quite honestly I have to say controlling the ionosphere is
really certainly what I think it was initially meant for was
controlling radio waves but also creating plasma and all kinds of
funky stuff but I find it interesting that he says no we
have oh we have all these other ways of doing it now this is old
school this is old technology all you heart people T directed
energy weapons people it's hard stuff is that's like stone age.
That's like ham radio to our internet
Yeah, well there you have it. I think that's a good summary
June 15 15th Very interesting. We will definitely mark that
down.
We'll be on the maybe we're gonna have the big event they
have to have one a good one a year as opposed to these you
know some dipshit you know plan to Yeah, dial the phone number
and blow up the bank
it is time I agree. Okay
well things I want to get out of here Yeah. Which is this stuff
apparently China's having nothing but labour problems and
this is going to get worse and worse. And I want to play two
clips one is the China's strikers hilarious clip because
apparently their labour problems are essentially the following I
you hire me twice we sign a contract that you're going to
pay me this much. I work my ass off for you working 16 hours a
day day after day and you don't pay me that's essentially the
bitch that they have I wouldn't know we we don't get paid. This
is being you know this is bad but play the first clip which is
China's strikers hilarious.
And China is poised to overtake the US as the world's largest
economy this year. And one reason for that success has been
an endless supply of cheap labour over there. Whoo.
What outfit is claiming this.
Van cat bank had past decades, Chinese workers doing long hours
for little pay, but things might be about to change. 10s of 1000s
of workers went on strike last month in Guangdong Province
demanding better working conditions. And that's a new
trend in a region that sometimes referred to as the world's
factory. Don't get here with Clemens de Bucha and trolley
Wang reports.
The guards still keep a watchful eye but on the surface all seems
back to normal at you UN's huge factory complex in Dongguan, no
trace of the strikes which began in April to demand welfare
payments from the firm which makes shoes for brands including
Nike, Adidas, and Puma. After two weeks of tension and dozens
of arrests, the authorities ordered the strikers back to
work, but many seem unconvinced by their bosses pledged to repay
what they owed.
We're not satisfied, but we have no choice. You have to go back
to work. If we don't go on strike, how will we ever get
people where
that was our only demand that they meet the terms of our
contract and pay or Social Security. Interesting.
So this is the kind of management that goes on in
China, where we just don't ever talk about this sort of thing.
But but I got the bigger kick out of this guy. The next clip
was his boss in China. This is the guy who runs one of the
factors. And don't forget to all that out of the blue is in the
last very few years, over 340 billionaires have been minted in
China, because they don't pay people they're crooked. And this
guy essentially admits it. He's one of the managers of one of
these factories and he says, you know, if we actually had to pay
these people, we'd go broke.
It's getting increasingly difficult to recruit workers,
more and more of them are demanding to check their
contracts to make sure they get complete social security. So we
really have to respect them labour law. And with rising
wages and production costs, some bosses me included, are thinking
of moving out into Vietnam or Cambodia.
Three decades after its industry first took off shinjin is one of
China's four richest cities. As production costs rise. It's
aiming to focus more on High Tech High Value Added
industries, like electronics, telecommunications and
biotechnology, and to depend less on an increasingly savvy
labour force.
Yeah, well enjoy your iPhone.
Joy, enjoy the rest of your day. I thought that clip and
especially they go to Vietnam, where they're going to run into
a very intelligent population 97% literacy rate much higher
than ours here
in the United States economy in Vietnam is booming.
Yeah, so Vietnam out Cambodia. I can see that
right, right. Well, Cambodia has got problems.
Now the Chinese can deal with it or maybe just move all their
facilities to Africa.
There you go.
Get people to work cheap there.
Alright, let me wrap up my end with one email and one clip.
Regarding Nigeria. Of course, people who listen to the show
know our stance on Nigeria. Very interesting to see that they've
sent over accountants to go and find the $49.6 billion that has
gone missing from the National Nigerian Petroleum Corporation a
joint venture with the shell and Chevron. Oops, sorry, right.
Yeah, Royal Dutch Shell and Chevron.
If this is the email, I think you're going to read. It's a
beauty
from Hector. Subject, Boko Haram. I like your guys show and
everything, but I just don't see your angle of how you can
confidently just call this Boko Haram thing a hoax. Literally,
from what I've heard, you seem to think there isn't much
foliage or building so it couldn't happen? Well, that
parents should be able to pick their children out of a crowd
quicker, honestly, come with something better because this is
one of the worst analysis or justification for a hoax I've
ever heard from you guys. PS it's also getting a bit too
obvious that whenever the whatever country Adam happens to
pop into is 100% pristine, but when you return home, everything
is awful. I've been to many other airports all over the
world and they're very similar. The fact that you try to paint
every security worker in foreign airports is nice than every
security work in the US is a douche just makes you look
biassed. Yeah. Well, it's funny because my wife doesn't get
detained in other countries.
I love that letter it guys great. is good. Keep it up. He
doesn't listen to the show other than tell these guys of course
not because our expositions where we develop these these
theses. It really is generally two or three shows of
an ember then information come from people who have been there
and give us information. We
have boots on the ground everywhere. Yes.
So now I have a quick clip from Alice friend is her name. And
she Boko Haram, as you know, it's this. So here's another
little data point for you about the scam. Why? And we asked this
the minute that happened, why haven't we had Britain, you
know, bring back our boys who were burned in their dorm rooms
or, you know, this has been going on for years. And Boko
Haram, of course, has been on the payroll. That's why they've
been paid to do crap. And the MS friend is going to tell us
exactly what this is really about. What is Boko Haram really
fighting? John?
I have no idea.
Mr. Chairman, the threat to Nigeria from Boko Haram has
grown over the past five years, and mutates day by day extending
its reach increasing the sophistication and lethality of
its attacks, and growing its military capacity. These most
recent attacks are especially unconscionable, unconscionable
because they were perpetrated against innocent girls. And
because of the sheer scale of the attack and Schubach.
Unfortunately, these kidnappings are not our only the most recent
outrages and a growing portfolio of attacks perpetrated by Boko
Haram and its war against education. Okay.
It's the war against education.
This is the one that the one that Michelle brought up, no
reports from coming out of the European news sources have said
this ever No. Michelle Obama's the first one which we had the
clip of her saying it and we identified it because it's part
of the agenda. The Obama agenda is an indication of the screw up
a common good common core work and which we haven't discussed
enough. And so now that she drops his bomb, who was that
woman who were where she testified?
He was in Congress and she has worked for the Department of
Defence. She works with the Pentagon. Now, okay, so
she's just part of the whole she's part of a. That's okay.
I'm gonna say You know what? I liked that clip so much because
it caught me off guard that you do get a clip of the day we have
we are overdue.
Wow. That's very kind. I don't know if I deserve it, but I'll
take it. Well, with that, it being almost 3am What do you
say?
I think we should close shop.
That's right. Well, we hope you enjoyed the value that we
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will be in the Motor City, Detroit depressing people And I
will be still in Tokyo indeed on the cusp of the eve of our
departure back home to no doubt another fine incarceration
moments of the lovely Miss Mickey so we're that's coming to
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