punchy. All right. Give me another Karina the queue. It.
Adam curry, John C. Dvorak is Thursday, February 6 2014. Time
for your Gitmo nation media assassination episode 589. This
is no agenda separating Ace of
Spades from Ace of hearts here in FEMA Region six in Traverse
site tight out in Austin, Texas in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry, and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I count 11 episodes to go until show 600
I'm John C. Dvorak. Craig Levin Buzzkill.
Wow, I've almost forgotten about show 600
And I'm still in my menu reading voice apparently. Okay, now try
to snap out of it.
Yeah, please do because we have another episode of the Best
podcast in the universe to produce here for everybody.
Exactly. You know, we were we have a because Mickey has an art
show coming up. In a couple of weeks here in Austin. We know
there's a little social stuff we have to kind of do you. You go
to someone else to show and you know, you you basically we're
trolling for buyers. Yeah. schmoozing, trolling for buyers,
is what it's called, you know, let's go to this other art show.
See if we meet anybody interesting. Can I invite them
to the pre pre opening? Of course, you know, again, the
thing is, is Oh, and what do you do?
So this is a running gag. Yeah. Well,
I think I have a new answer, which is just so much easier.
used to say legislative analyst and got away
with government legislation now analysts but even but then I
still have to talk to people and explain everything. You know, so
I figured why don't I just say, I'm half of a comedy podcast
duo. I think that's true. Yes, it is. It's completely true.
This is a comedy Podcast. I'm half of the duo that that hosts
it. I think people go, Oh, because everyone's heard of Marc
Maron, or, you know, it's one of the right
to know, Marc Maron,
is what he said Marc Maron,
but they said Martin, no, Marc,
Marc Maron, or, you know, whoever, Louie CK anyone who has
Rola. Yeah, Adam Carolla. In fact, even better one, I just
say I'm Adam Carolla. That's,
you should just say I'm Adam.
Adam Carolla, what's your problem? Half
Right.
Exactly. Well, slave strong, everybody. This is episode 589
of the no agenda show. I just wanted to say that because
someone sent it to me, I thought it sounded
strong. San Francisco strong going on around here and this
other this strong thing is on my Gay Day, I never liked it when
Bruce Springsteen was doing it. Yeah,
well, of course, we had Jersey strong with Sandy, we had Boston
Strong with the bombing. I think slave strong is just good for
us. Slave slave strong everybody.
Possible title? Yeah,
somehow I think it might be misinterpreted by the SEO.
Straw. Yeah, actually, it probably wouldn't work.
But I but I do love these Thursday shows for a really
specific reason. Monday is when a new week starts, obviously.
And we have a lot of time to research stuff. And it's just,
there's just a lot of time to really get into whatever we
think is it whatever I think I'm going to talk about, let's put
it that way you John. And I never, never communicate at all
about what we're coming to the table with. And I think that's
probably one of the hardest things is deciding what we're
going to talk about just to make it interesting. But it dawned on
me that the curry Devorah Consulting Group, which we I
guess we joke about from time to time, but it really is quite
real. And here's the example. So, of course, I was very
interested in all this heroin business. Yes. And And as I'm
watching the mainstream media, which is what part of what we do
to deconstruct it, I'm noticing a lot of really important
questions that aren't being asked, like, what is heroin?
Yeah, just, it's just a simple question. Well, it's assumed,
yeah. Or where does it come from? Or? What? Yes, it's
assumed but when you so I'm sitting here and I've got my,
you know, got my three screens. Whoo. But we really have in this
show has an enormous breach of experts across all fields that
it is mind boggling. And that really, when you hire the curry
Devorah Consulting Group, you get that as a part of the
package.
Do you know what I mean? You know, heroin began as a headache
remedy.
It sure did. And it was it was of
course it's a derivative of was bare as a matter of fact. Yes,
it was.
I in fact, IG probe and you know, the guys who made the the
Jew gas and And Bear. They did it together and that came along
with the invention of the hypodermic needle. And there's a
great documentary it's about an hour. I think it's a BBC
documentary which I have in the show notes.
Wait, hold on second. Now I really I was just thinking about
because I normally just let this stuff pass. But now I see what
you get the kind of hate mail you get occasionally the Jew
gas.
And it's easy. Did you understand what I'm talking
about? I know
you man Krylon whatever cycle the Cyclones likes. Right? Dry
line is a thing from DuPont. Same thing.
Anyway, I don't care if you send me whatever you want. Yeah,
nobody cares. So so I'm getting all this information about
fentanyl. There's some there's some other interesting drugs
that we're going to talk about and from all walks of life from
doctors from addicts from, from people who, for instance, I did
not know this, but there is an acute shortage of fentanyl
products at this moment in the pharmacies over the counter.
Oh, just cook call Syria.
Well, so this this has been another part of the research
which is understanding the chemical you the chemical
warfare use of fentanyl, which, of course, famous example is we
I think we talked about in the last show is Russia. They used a
version of its three dash metal fentanyl gas in that theatre.
And of course, it killed a lot of people because what what this
stuff does, essentially it just makes you stop it puts you to
sleep and then you stop breathing, you kind of forget
how to breathe. But it's very interesting to see we have a
surge of fentanyl and of course I have a theory. But we have a
surge of fentanyl being cut into heroin. While people who have
actual need and necessity for the fentanyl patch. Or for the
lollipop or even the injectable are having a hard time getting
it their prescriptions filled they have to wait 14 days
sometimes.
That's not good, you know, shakes
Well, the fentanyl is very necessary for people primarily
with who you're taking cancer medication or you're just being
eaten with pain, massive pain. And all of this stuff is if we
kind of go back to to the heroin start there. I don't think
people really know about the heroin wars and how how the two
Scotsman I believe started by essentially drugging all of
China and, and everyone in China was just completely whacked out
on opium and it was one of the big the big trades of the day
between the the Empire and the and the Far East. Right for tea.
If we were traded, it was being traded for tea and probably a
lot of was there must have been stealing so much. And at certain
point the I guess the the ruler of Canton, and I'm paraphrasing
all is not you go watch the documentary if you want to
exactly what happened. But he said hold on a second, we got to
stop this crap. These guys are ruining our country. Millions of
people were strung out on opium and just nothing was getting
done. And then they said, Well, we're gonna stop these guys. And
they tried to and they said, Okay, no more no more. We're not
going to import your opium anymore. And then the Brits came
with the entire Royal Navy slaughtered 30,000 Chinese said
yeah, oh, no. Oh, no. The hell. And they got they got millions
in reparations. And, and the opium that was the base of the
first Opium War, all this the Chinese soldiers were too doped
up to even really fight back. But then this stuff started to
slowly get into the, into the mainstream in the UK. And that's
when the derivative of opium morphine was first created. And
then with a hypodermic needle, along came heroin, which is
really dimethyl morphine, so it's a it's there's two
molecules added to the morphine, to get heroin. And initially
they thought heroin would be a non addictive form of morphine.
And in this documentary, you see were the women at the time and
then now we're talking 1840 1850. In the UK. They had
these beautiful little silver serene sets, and with
monogrammed and little cute petite things, of course, women
couldn't drink they could smoke in public at the time. And so
they'd be at a dinner party or at the theatre, and they just
jabbed themselves in the leg with a nice little shot of
heroin. And it was all the rage.
Well, things become Rayji that's for sure. Hey, can you do me a
favour and check out Open up your call technical info because
I'm getting a lot of received packet loss Oh, really? Oh, this
is an hour and I'm missing out on a couple of words here on
this that's not It's not intolerable, but it's annoying.
Now
this is not okay. Let me see if I'm in my in my bobbin Add
packets.
Well these these situations are this heroin thing is becoming
kind of a rage and we're starting to see packages
floating around. I have one
I have Nope, I have no packet loss coming in or out. So do you
want me to just call you back and we just No, no,
no, it's okay. It stopped right now that zero it was it was
going crazy for a while. Keep an eye on it. Yeah, anyway, yeah,
I'll tell you this heroin. The story that I think is pretty
much summarises what's going on everywhere. It's the heroin on
Long Island. Okay.
centres designed to help those with addiction say were the one
saw a number of 100 people in need of their help a month five
years ago, they now see 700 it's become so bad. In fact, some
public health advocates on Long Island call it a crisis. Dr.
Jeffery Reynolds with the Long Island Council for alcoholism
and drug dependence says in his 24 years in public health, he
has never seen drug addiction numbers this bad.
If you look at the overdose statistics on Long Island,
they've continued to climb. At this point on Long Island, we
lose about one person per day to a fatal overdose.
And while today's focus is on Philip Seymour Hoffman, the
actor, according to national CDC statistics, was probably one of
100 people nationwide who died of a fatal overdose just
yesterday.
This is happening day in and day out. I think, you know,
celebrities help raise the profile of the issue and help
galvanise our attention. And it's probably the stigma that
keeps Long Island's families who are struggling from telling the
story time and time again.
Another concern in recent years tainted heroin, more of it out
in the drug market, and obviously this is multiplying
the risks associated with the drugs use. I'm norming to three
pix 11 news.
Yeah, so couple things about this unless you want to follow
this clip up. I want I want to say I just want
to say that this report I could have pulled it from San
Francisco. I couldn't pull it from LA
everyone's doing the same thing. Yeah, yeah. I'm very into
fentanyl. There's a couple of ways you can make fentanyl and
this has been fentanyl is being made for 100 years. As long as
as long as it's also a it's basically a synthetic opioid.
And the Janssen company which is now owned by Johnson Johnson.
They have they invented the Siegfried method of creating
fentanyl, which apparently, if you have the precursor, which is
p and n are something which is a restricted chemical. If you have
that you can essentially make fentanyl in your living room.
It's through the Siegfried method is not all to think is
kind of funny. They call it the Siegfried method. But anyway,
yeah, where's Roy? Yeah, everybody. Yes, he made a funny
expected. I have I but I do have a theory on what's happening
here. First of all, the fentanyl mix, we had a very similar issue
in 2006. And for some reason, and I well, I may think I have
an idea, but no one was talking about this at all. I don't hear
any new story referring to exactly this problem was almost
as many heroin fentanyl combo related deaths in 2006, as we
have right now. And at the time, what I can find is very
difficult to search these things. Once you have an
incident like an actor that dies.
It varies every Google, Google washes it essentially.
So yeah, I mean, you can do date ranges, and I have my own search
engine. So doesn't work. It's very hard, very hard. But so
eventually, you come up with some answers. And apparently at
the time, the fentanyl was being produced in a lab in Mexico, and
was being smuggled in and then cut in the United States. So I'm
looking at this and I've been I'm putting all these things
together, this kind of gets back to what I was talking about the
the no agenda, the creative work Consulting Group, where we have
all these people and all this information coming in, I was at
countless in real time, and able to I'm able to assemble all the
different pieces that kind of snap neatly into place. And the
first thing and I had to look this up. If you look at TV
advertising dollars by the pharmaceutical industry, there's
a significant reduction, particularly in cable news of
pharmaceutical advertising, a lot of the money has shifted to
the web ad and it's shifted in the, you know, in all these
websites that give you of course, you know, you have the
typical WebMD and you've got the Dr. Oz stuff, but a lot of the
so called education and a lot of its going into online video,
just a lot of that money is shifting, and of course they
still buy their big branding opportunities. But when is the
last time we even played an ad on this show? Because we'd like
to live out himself all
the time. I had one lined up for a couple shows ago we never
played it but but it's it's not common. I do see Ambien. Still
advertising but the amount of on although I have to say this, you
don't one thing you don't do and I is watch the network news.
I've I've specifically in the past few days did this to see
what I could find.
Well, all I know is from my ex, I haven't Well, of course I have
watched it for weeks. But last time I watched it, which was a
few weeks ago, almost all the ads were for people about to
drop dead if something or other
right, but there's lots of and what I did is I went to
Advertising Age and I looked up the numbers of the ad buys I
mean that that is the the closest I can get to some to
really seeing where the money is going. And one thing's for sure,
very minimal money is going to cable news. And this is
significant because who was propagating this the most is all
the cable news channels they it's been until the toothpaste
bomb threats oh my god, please. Everything was all about heroin,
fentanyl, heroin, fentanyl, heroin, fentanyl. And I saw a
fantastic piece on PBS. And, and this is this is one of those
rare opportunities where you you hear something, but you don't
hear it until you're only listening to the audio and not
watching the video. We have this happen to us all the time. Where
if you if you're not looking at the picture, and you just listen
to the words and the flow and the cadence, you actually hear
what the person is really saying. And on this particular
programme, they're they're two people. I've cut it cut this
down to a couple of quick clips. One is Sam Quinonez. And he is a
reporter for the Los Angeles Times. I don't think he has
necessarily any agenda with the things that he's saying. But the
things that he's saying are very, from my research, very
true. But at this so he's in Los Angeles in the studio in New
York, they had our drugs are Gil, Gil Kerlikowske. And when
you listen to this guy speak, it is like he is actually well, you
tell me that this guy is not actually pitching the use of
heroin. It's and it blew me away when I just listened to it.
While I was editing it down.
There is no question we are seeing a resurgence of heroin
and seeing it where and in what kind of population? Well, it's
very different and two issues come up. One is, of course, if
prescription drugs are more tightly regulated, or less
accessible, or more expensive, people can turn to heroin,
because they're already addicted, they suffer the
disease of addiction to these opioids, heroin is less
expensive. But there's a second part and that is that we see a
group of young people who are very naive and believe that
heroin and used in certain ways they won't become addicted. It's
edgy. And what of course happens is it's incredibly dangerous.
I did not hear him for one second say don't do heroin. I
hear him giving some facts and stating them. So matter of
factly it almost sounds like hey, you're addicted to
prescription medicine. Well, you can always get heroin, it's
readily the budgets cheaper. And the kids you know, this is edgy.
And i Wow, the guy is almost pitching it. He's not almost
paid pitching, and he's pitching it. Now let's go to just make
sure I hear his Quinonez and listen to what he has to say cuz
I think he's, he's, he's really giving us some good facts here
that help us understand what is happening. And eventually I'm
going to get to my what I theory of what I think is happening,
which this fits into,
all over the country. And I would say largely, this is a
white problem. I don't find opioid addiction too much in
black or Latino populations. This is very different from the
way heroin spread 40 years ago,
this is this is pretty critical stuff. This is, of course, just
playing
seven days where a lot of black and Latino communities were
really badly hit. Heroin today. And prescription pill addiction
today is almost entirely white, a white phenomenon and it's in
rural America. It's in a largely suburban America, places that
have done fairly well, middle class, upper middle class areas,
and it's in towns that that really never had a problem with
Heron before this. Charlotte, Salt Lake Columbus, Cincinnati,
Albuquerque, places like that, where you just didn't really see
it so much. Now it's become a very, very big problem. And as
Gil Kerlikowske said, it's mostly related to the use of the
gateway drug and all this is are these prescription pills Well,
I love what this guy is saying he's he's really explaining the
problem and he's gonna get into the numbers of where that where
this is coming from, particularly when you know that
these drugs are pretty much exactly the same, but
explain that Add a little bit more Sam, you start
that many of these prescription painkillers are virtually
identical molecularly to heroin oxy. codeine is very, very
similar, almost identical to heroin. The problem is that
there's a
notice how we said that twice.
Yeah, black market in these pills now, because they've been
so widely prescribed, there was a revolution in medicine in the
United States, back in the 80s, and 90s. That said, these pills
are non addictive ones prescribe to pain patients, chronic pain
patients. So we had this kind of rising sea level of pills all
across all across the country, a very deep black market developed
in which these pills now cost $1, a milligramme. Most of these
pills come in 3040 80, milligramme doses, that means
you're you're having to pay 3040 80 bucks a pill, and a lot
of people getting addicted, their tolerance rises, they
cannot, they end up using three, four or five of these pills.
I've met people who had three $400 a day addictions, heroin on
comes in. And it it's it's a fifth to a 10th cheaper than
that. And if you're already a lot of these folks getting
addicted to the pills have already begun injecting. And
when they start injecting, it's kind of like they've crossed the
Rubicon in a sense. And so heroin, injecting heroin isn't
that much different from injecting these pills. It just
happens to be far cheaper
to there's the there's what's really going on with this
epidemic in the United States, and certainly in the United
States, but I think it's it's worldwide. And And finally,
someone asked me ask the question, where is this stuff
coming from? which we believe is from has this has to be from
Afghanistan, I'd also say the kind of the tail is this ace of
spades stamp, ace of spades and ace of hearts. These are very
militaristic emblems, and certainly found many units in
Afghanistan. So that was just I don't have any proof of this.
But I'm thinking we
can make that so I get to your I'm Ben, you're teasing us a
little too long here. What is this theory?
You need to? You need to have some of the real information you
need the background. Okay, I'll walk I'll skip this clip, and
you'll never hear it.
Don't get mad about it. It's just like, I'm waiting for the
for the punch line. Come in.
All right, here it is. Let's listen to Quinonez one more
time, I'm sorry. gairloch kowski. With his messaging, kids
get plenty of pro drug messages. We need to give them anti drug
messages, particularly around heroin that work.
Okay. What did he just say? Kids get plenty of pro drug messages,
which would be what you see on television advertise what you
see on the web about all these groovy drugs, what we need to do
is create some anti drug messaging around heroin. We just
play that again and listen to it,
kids get plenty of pro drug messages, we need to give them
anti drug messages, particularly around heroin that work. So
here's
what I'm seeing. This is a war between the pharmaceutical
industry and the the illicit drug industry whose pricing have
dropped down now, from around 2015 to $20, just a couple years
ago now to four or $5. And the number one way to do that, if
you want people to come back to your drug, is to make the
competitor's drug look dangerous. And who has access to
fentanyl, and it's especially since there seems to be a
shortage. I'm thinking the pharmaceutical industry is at
war, maybe even with just the media who of course, shill for
the banks and the political horrors. And that's what that's
what the heroin money runs. And maybe they want some of that
money back. But because they haven't been advertising, you
know, they're not the they're not getting the exposure they
want. I'm thinking it's very possible that this has been a
spike by pharmaceutical industry to scare people away from the
heroin, which kills you back into the safer heroin, although
it's more expensive. And you know, just to prove their point,
they say fucking kill an actor. Which is what they always do
when we really want to make a point.
Well, they had apparently 100 People are dying a day of
overdoses and there's every so often an actor gets involved in
the actor. I don't know if people have that much sympathy
for, you know, the actors being rich and then
on heroin. Philip Seymour Hoffman there's nothing but
sympathy.
Ya know, I'm saying but I think I don't know how much of it is
actually such that it would affect the culture. I mean, it's
just sympathy for you know, we had sympathy for was a Whitney
Houston or whatever. earned all the rest of them that have
dropped dead over the last. This is
very specific as it now comes to light that he died of a mixture
of heroin fentanyl, which no,
no, that's been rebuked. That that's been on and off. Yeah,
no. Net last report was no.
We. Okay, I have a different report here. But you know, what
is the New York Daily News
versus Associated Press had the fentanyl one. And then it was
rebutted by the New York Daily News. And then all the news
outlets in New York who say that wasn't fentanyl, they just say
is still a problem. So I don't know what I think could come
back into play. There's something fishy,
going. I'm going to think that was fentanyl. But you know,
it'll it's almost it almost doesn't matter at this point.
Because I don't know
why they by the way, why they didn't get 60 bags or something
according to them, but do whatever they can. But
the news is very consistent. The news is, you get hooked on this
prescription pills. Then you go to the cheaper heroin L and now
it's killing. You know, that is the message. That's the message.
And I think, particularly with with the Affordable Care Act,
maybe we're going to see some repricing or something's going
to happen, but people need to get back on the regulated stuff.
That seems to be the message that I'm hearing. That seems to
be the message from Gil Kerlikowske.
The message though, that's actually coming through that I
think the point you really originally made, I think is a
more valid one, which is that the real messaging is you can
use heroin, it's cheaper. And then the end of when the guy
says, oh, Oxycodone is the same as heroin. I mean, that seems
like the wrong kind of messaging is Yeah, no, no,
no, that messaging is totally there, John, that is that is
absolute. But I see two messages that I'm thinking to fentanyl is
a message of a different sort.
The fentanyl is the dangerous mess. That's
the dangerous message. Yeah, you
can buy heroin on the street, but you might get fentanyl and
be dead.
Now check this out. This is the wonder drug Narcan, which is now
being pushed. So this is by prescription only this people
want this over the counter. It's now going into the hands of
police officers. EMT already have it Vince core
Valley son had overdosed on heroin. He was starting to turn
blue, he wasn't breathing. He was gasping for breath.
paramedics were carrying the drug Naloxone, better known as
Narcan, five or so minutes they came back said he was awake and
breathing.
This person is actually waking you up from the dead
time or copies. Now the drug that's long been used by
paramedics and in emergency rooms, is in the hands of police
officers.
And by the way, this package is highly produced. This is a
pharmaceutical industry produced or at least paid for production
package. This is not just your local news that just threw this
together. This is good. Listen, all the sound effects cops who
are often the first on
the scene of medical calls.
It's very surreal. It's literally the person is blue,
the lips of blue, they're not breathing. This individual did
not have a heartbeat, wake up, and they're up and they're
talking. It's simply amazing.
Yes, by heroin or painkillers. We're not going
to arrest our way out of this epidemic of substance abuse.
It's a disease. So we have to help the people.
The Quincy Police Department's track record using Narcan is
extraordinary. Its officers have administered it 221 times and
reversed 211 overdoses in just over three years. This
is kind of like the pulp fiction thing where you need new jabs
the adrenaline needle in her chest and she comes back to
life. That's literally what this is, except you spray it into
someone's nose. And as they're dying of an overdose as they
come back to life, it completely nullifies the effects of heroin.
So how about this for a thought? You've made a mountain out of a
molehill and all this is orchestrated by the company that
makes Narcan which is by the way should be a generic drug from
the way I see only
one company makes it Sankyo. Let me see
is next Naloxone, which is the is the drug itself. Yes, was
developed by Sankyo, in the 60s, which means that anyone can make
it but only
as far as I know only one company actually makes its
market under
various trademarks, including Narcan, Naloxone, Narcan t,
which is three different drugs which was three different
countries and
companies I don't know if they're from I had a note that
said it was just one but it could be putting out one is
generic and there's not all that much money to be made.
That's not true. The big drug companies are buying up all the
generic companies and they're charging the same for example,
Provigil has gone generic and if you go buy the generic version
is the same price actually, it's a little more alright.
Well, this couldn't be that that could be one part of it seems
like this is the magical drug and you see article after
article now with people saying, Oh, if only someone if only
Hoffman had had some Narcan and someone around a buddy say 50
Buddy.
Well, they had if you look it up, if you look up knacks alone,
you'll find there on the web. There are everybody's talking
about Ohio wants more and all the rest of it. Right. So this
is a big deal. you've stumbled onto? I'm not sure that the the
other aspect, which is, you know, get people on oxycodone?
Well, there's there's three aspects, I think there's much
more to it. One is we have the the heroin trade, which runs our
banking industry, which runs so much. You know, that needs to be
propagated. And so, you know, this is why we have this
conversation ongoing, and it all the dangerous talk gets people
to do it more. But there is most definitely led by the drugs are
a push to get people back. And it's all about education. And we
can't you know, you heard that you can't We can't arrest our
way out of this. We can't make any laws people have to
understand, and the understanding will come in the
form of you need to take the good stuff. The only problem is
who's going to pay for it. And then this Narcan pops up and
this was actually I was tipped off to this by Chad, our, our
firemen, EMT guy in a boulder. And he says just wait he says
just wait because he's had this in his in his pack for a long
time because he helps put out fires, but most of the time he's
dealing with morons.
What is the cost of this stuff? $20 $20. Yeah, that's a good
deal.
You'd want to hear what Chad had to say about Narcan. Sure. He's
because I sent this video to him. He said Ha, if only Narcan
were so simple, it's a pretty amazing drug. It really does
turn so he's he uses this on people who are od ng it really
does turn people back on pretty much instantly. Of course when
people get bounced back that hard with Narcan they almost
always puke and a generally pissed and sometimes go into
immediate withdrawal, which can include seizures, not fun. I
generally understatement I generally administer this and it
gets worse. I generally administer the absolute minimum
dose to keep them breathing. Of course, I can monitor things
like blood oxygen levels, and exhaled exhaled end tidal co2
which is helpful as a data junkie is so much easier and
safer to manage than the full power junkie also. The half life
of Narcan is usually much less than most opiates. This means
that people wake up, the Narcan wears off and then the opioids
before the opiates do and then they go back to being to
overdosing. Of course, things get more complicated with a
Polyform overdose. The meth heroin combo is fairly common.
I'm learning stuff I never thought I'd ever know. In the
case of the meth head who freaks out and needs to come down right
fucking now he may choose to medicate his whacked out meth
mind with whatever available central nervous system
depressant he has handy. Heroin is very good at this. It's cheap
and prolific so the meth head shoots heroin to come down and
goes Nighty night starts to OD then when Joe jinga last
paramedic gets called because meth man turned blue and hits
him with the full monty dose of Narcan. The meth head awakens
completely redecorated the back of the ambulance with the vomit
exorcist exorcist style. And because the meth is still active
under all the heroin becomes the Incredible Hulk. He says when
you're puke wrestling The Incredible Hulk all by yourself
in the back of a six by eight foot box. This is not so much
fun. I pervert I prefer this a data junkie.
But this is there's a lot going on the strap these guys down a
bit time.
Yeah, well, of course, because the Narcan does away with the
heroin overdose, but then the meth comes back and they become
insane.
This doesn't sound good to people got to stop using these
stupid drugs every idiotic
the more than the heroin is just not a good drug.
Well, and meth is.
So you know, it's,
I find there's definitely something going on. I have two
clips. Because I think it I don't know where it applies on
this. But they're these drug companies are up to something
because this these are two produced clips that are that
came in his packages. And to me that is part of the war on
generics. And we've talked about this before. There's two wars
going on by these drug companies. One is the generics.
They, they try. Like I said, they buy the companies up and
then they charge the same price for the generic drug to screw
the customer, right. And then there's the what's the there's
another do you have this other war going on? But let's play
this war on generics? Part one just
hormone drospirenone used in Yaz and the generics that followed
is associated with double the risk of blood clotting when
compared to earlier oral contraceptive formulas. However,
doctors note that the risk with any oral contraceptive is still
much lower than the clotting risks associated with pregnancy.
But what the Alexander's discovered next affects more
than just women. If you were taking
a brand name drug, you can sue the manufacturer for problems
with side effects and death. But she was on generic drug so we
have no recourse
in 1992, the FDA started requiring generic drug labels
match the brand name versions, the goal assured doctors
generics were equivalent to brand names. But since then, a
series of Supreme Court cases has led to sweeping protections
for the makers of generic drugs, including Pliva V min scene
where the court ruled, you can't hold generic drug manufacturers
liable for failing to warn consumers of risk. Because the
generic label is a copy of the brand name as required by the
FDA.
Right now the law is in a state of chaos where no consumer has
any rights at all against directly against a Generic
Pharmaceutical Company. And we're all scratching our heads
trying to figure out what to do with it
now generics accounted for 80% of all prescriptions, and the
FDA is considering a rule change. It would allow generic
manufacturers to update labels independent of brand named
counterparts. Family planning expert, Dr. Michael Paul Carr
says that would help inform consumers about risks sooner.
But in the meantime, women need to consider all birth control
options.
This is really what a bonanza these guys already had it for
the vaccines where you can't sue them for if you if you die or
get anything from a vaccination. And now they buy up the
generics. And you just can't sue anybody because it's just some
generic thing.
Yeah, and then they but they still would like you to buy the
brand names or at least associate because when you do
this, you get the you get the full impact.
They're both other methods that are more effective and safer,
for example, like intrauterine devices, and implants. And then
there are 50 different oral contraceptive pills on the
market as
well, generic manufacturers are fighting changes, and ask the
FDA to take more time considering them in this letter,
the changes as proposed will have far reaching consequences
affecting patient safety, as well as health care costs. But
that argument isn't enough for Jane and Michael Alexander, who
are holding out hope for change.
It's too late for us. It's too late for Lauren. But it's not
too late for other people who are harmed by generic drugs.
harmed harmed. Yeah. So
they had these people coming to see your harm by generic drugs
now that what you said is, is very interesting, because first
of all, it did report why would the generic drug companies want
to change anything if they're if they're off the hook for
everything? So that's something's bogus about that
logic? Yeah. Seems to me, I'm off the hook for everything. I
don't want to change anything. I'm not gonna get involved.
Or maybe it's just the flexibility if they need to add
something, you know, there's there's something Yeah, but it's
a new side effect, or big drug
companies that are are the ones that are buying up all these
generic companies. And so I think your first assertion,
which is that, let's move this to a generic charge, same amount
of money. Ah, and take yourselves take yourselves right
out of the legal implications.
Right. Interesting. Well,
there's and by the way, this is what I think this war on
generics is, is not, it may not really be a war on generics at
all, it may be a fan of cakewalk. And the war on
compounding is the other one that's going on.
Oh, that's insurance, no longer coverage, compounding.
So there's something phoney about all this stuff. And it all
leads to the big pharma companies? Well, as I say your
report does to the of course it does. Yes. And it's like Big
Pharma once. But you know, I don't know and maybe have
something to do the advertising but something's going on.
Because this is a lot of just a lot of smoke screen. It seems to
me for all kinds of sums. Somebody in the drug business
must know the message. Somebody got a memo somewhere, and
they've got to send us a copy of it.
But this the the fentanyl thing is so weird that this happened
in 2006. They said it came from Mexico. But now there's we have
actual users of fentanyl, who can't get it or the refilling
that prescription takes two weeks up to two weeks. And this
is from producers who have emailed me directly. And I
really look for the Syria chemical weapons connection.
It's very hard to although metal fentanyl of course would come
from Russia. And Experts disagree whether that was used
in in Syria to there's no hard evidence that it was used.
There. There's a lot of indications that would make
sense for for Russian weaponry to cut what we've also
we've know the Russians supply this series with all their
weaponry, so why wouldn't they
we have also used fentanyl gas in Iraq. And this was there was
a big, I think was the sunshine report or something I have it in
the show notes somewhere. This was a Rumsfeld thing. Rumsfeld
really wanted fentanyl gas, to be legalised and to run outside
of the chemical weapons tree. because he said it well, it's
not really a chemical weapon and singing capacitor. Of course,
unfortunately, when you get incapacitated, you can't breathe
and you die. But there was there was a big, big detail for him.
Yeah, very, very annoyingly small detail, what was it
called? It was called the a lot of this has really been removed
from the record and Google washed and you can't find any of
this anymore. But in Iraq, there are accounts of American made
fentanyl gas being sprayed from helicopters onto onto citizens
and then a base basically, you puke and you stop breathing, you
die. So why, why this is happening now. It may just be
coincidental that maybe there was a lot of fentanyl all of a
sudden showing up on the marketplace, which is what we
surmised a little bit on the last show, but I'm thinking
more. I'm thinking this is coming from somewhere else.
People are crazy about the fentanyl. Chad told me that he
he's witnessed people who had stolen the patches would roll up
the patch and tried to smoke the patch directly. Just a roll the
hatch.
What is wrong with everybody?
Well, now this is this is another point. This is all the
people keep talking about it being a sickness. This addiction
to heroin and heroin opioids but really the way I understand how
it happens, and I'm going to be able to talk to the brain
Professor tomorrow night, we have another one of our Obama
bot dinners. Oh, good. What happens is the the this, the
opioid comes into the brain hijacks your, your neuro
receptor pleasure centre, and basically ruins it. So your
brain only really responds to happiness coming from the
opioids no longer from your, from your natural. Your natural
meth has a similar effect of ruining your brain so you can't
enjoy things. Right.
So is that a sickness? Well, it's a
it was not a disease. It's not it's not airborne. It's a is it
a sickness? It's a syndrome, I think.
But it's self inflicted syndrome.
Yeah, well, no, I'm chop off your arm and it would be you'd
wouldn't have an arm?
No, but that's that's what I mean is I just get this
constant. Oh, it's so sad. He has the sickness. And like, I'm
not so sure about all that.
Well, if they did, if the effect is permanent, which it is with
math, supposedly, where you actually ruin
your pleasure centre. condition, then it's not but it's not okay.
Yeah, it's a condition
that it's a brain damage. You just essentially Okay, here it
is, wants you to sit yourself in the head with a hammer, right?
And see what happens is it you know, or get a concussion or
two. It's creates a bridge. It's sounds like it causes brain
damage,
right. But then then what happens is people get this brain
damage from the legally prescribed pharmaceutical
versions.
Now, the whole thing that you overlooked in this is another
kind of, of an argument that's going around, it began on sports
channels. And it was a special done on Real Sports with Brian
Gumbel. That's probably why I overlooked it. Yeah, well,
you're overlooking some interesting stuff. Because there
there's a big huge movement among the football players. To
get the NFL to legalise marijuana. We've talked about
this. Yes, I know. I'm gonna but you didn't bring this up.
Because there was a couple aspects we didn't talk about,
which is that many of the football players believe that
the heroin derivatives and some of these drugs that they're
getting, including one guy who apparently blew out his kidneys
and had to go on dialysis over some painkiller that he was
prescribed to an extreme is they say that works better marijuana
and doesn't have any after effects in his psyche you tick
instead of taking these horrible opiates? Yeah, but um, they know
but it and they don't see it being a problem.
But I'm not hearing this conversation in the lexicon. Um,
this is why either and I'm
wondering what why we have these parallel debates going on with
no conclusion because this again, to me would indicate that
they're maybe they're trying here, how about this for an idea
there? The marijuana thing is huge. It's taking over the place
in terms of what's going on culturally. It's going to be
legal everywhere, eventually, but nobody wants that. This is a
huge threat to the industry. Because of what the football
players say is true. They don't these these all these, these
anti pain medications could be wiped out by something and grow
in your backyard. It's possible that trying to draw attention to
the other side of this debate keep marijuana completely out of
the argument because there was not one thing in the entire
research you did just now or anything I've heard were the
heroin issue and marijuana is brought up the gateway drug is
no longer marijuana. It used to be no
it Everybody knows the gateway drug is Facebook this is obvious
now. I'm not kidding either. Well, well not seriously
Facebook is it messes with your brain it's like let me show
everybody that I'm not a total loser and please Like me Like me
Like me Like me. This is not this is not healthy. This is
very unhealthy behaviour.
You just jumped? I don't know what you did. You didn't jump a
shark you jumped a chasm of samsara. You brought Facebook
into it,
I'm just telling you that I believe that that Facebook is a
gateway drug that's all we can go back to marijuana. How about
this? What if the idea is to so we have the parallel of the
legal heroin and the illegal heroin in both cases they're not
good because they permanently damage your pleasure centre your
receptors but in in unsupervised use you die How about we go to
pharmaceutically produced marijuana I think a lot of
people would be very into that idea that okay, it's no matter
what I do whether I grow it whether I drink it, smoke it and
put it in my butt I'm not going to OD from it, but it's probably
better if I have the pharmaceutical industry make it
for me and measure it properly.
I think I think that boats already
sale maybe maybe I don't know there's a lot of money.
I mean, have you been to one of these dispensaries?
No, no? No, I go to the corner like normal people. It's like
they have a man got a damn bag for me. Those days are over. Oh
really? Dime I
used to do you know Silk Road until they got rid of it? I
would. I'm afraid to do it. Now I'm afraid of what is? Or I
don't I don't I don't what order and I don't know when you order
some which again, I'm not telling you. I'm not gonna
incriminate myself. Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine. I
ordered Oreo. You're
right. There's something about well, I don't know. But here's
the here's the here's your coincidence. 10 year anniversary
of Facebook massive amounts of heroin use.
I'm just no coincidence. I'm pointing out the obvious. I'm
not, I'm not making this up. I see people going into very weird
modes because of Facebook. And there's there's there's of
course, there's all kinds of dopey Stupid, stupid surveys.
But once you're not on Facebook, I check this thing out regularly
at least. There you go. Yes, two or three times a week, and I get
and I can feel it. Just
come on. admit it. Admit it. You'd go more than that. No, I
do
not. Absolutely not. I don't. I can't. It makes me unhappy. It's
just like watching television. Although when I was watching the
Super Bowl, of course, I got pretty happy. Because now like,
my prediction came true. A year the better predictor of the two
of us and I have to be honest with you though. There's
something I didn't tell you.
What you knew the game was rigged. Well,
the game is rigged. That's why it's easy for us to guess it nor
to to predict who's going to win because yeah, of course. Please
Did you see that first snap? Come on. Oh, come on.
Well, here's what's interesting about that first snap I found
out is there was actually a I think it was an IT WASN'T eight
to one but it was something like 50 to one there was an eight to
one bet that you could get in Vegas that said there'll be a
safety in the golf Well, hello, very game has a safety but wait,
there was a 50 to one I think was 50 to one and somebody
pointed out that those odds seem actually kind of low for this
bet which was Will there be a safety on the first play of the
bet
must have been more than 50 to one?
No, that's the point well, no The point is we're waiting here
this out the reason it wasn't as high as it should have been
which seems to me to be 10,000 to one Yeah, it's because they
everybody knew it everybody was in they were all in and the odds
came way down Oh,
is there a way to get a chart of these odds to see if if the
Odyssey
that you can watch odds change but you'd have to try it
yourself charted? Right. Oh,
well, of course. So besides that, it's rigged. I told you I
had a feeling this like no, I also named the Pope. I'm a time
traveller. Should I come on? I'm a time traveller.
Yeah, you might be. You have no proof that you're not
you know what Mickey said? buy a lottery ticket. Douchebag
Yeah, right. I agree with lottery tickets.
Really? Really? You want to show me your time dollar buy lottery
tickets. See
what bitch Exactly. Anyway, go on with what you how you got
this information.
Know that? I didn't know why I got it did. I felt I told you I
felt it. I tried to shoehorn it in I came up with the bowing
angle you didn't like it? People say you know, by the way, the
the marijuana laws do not kick in until April in Washington
State apparently. Yeah. So the It was that that difference?
There's another one that we completely overlooked because we
are so incredibly colorblind on this show. This was a black
quarterback versus a white quarterback. There's that I
didn't think of that. Or I never heard it. But you know, I was
like, well, whatever. Young guy versus old guy rich guy versus
not so rich guy. I think Windows eight really is the is the main.
That's the main issue that Seattle needed to win Windows
eight is just that explains everything because
there was an eight in the score. Already three to eight.
But just tell me you were sitting there going fire frown
roof.
I was know when I saw the first play that that safety. You went,
Ah, I said that's it. This games this game, you might as well
just, it's over. I didn't realise that the Denver team was
going to be such nervous wrecks. And then it just got worse and
worse and worse. And it just became obvious that one, you
know, if the team if they played up to any kind of potential,
there was no comparison, the Denver team was just
incompetent. And they said all the records this year was a
setup for the betting
public. Well, my favourite of everything. Of course, you know,
we had all the security and we had the snipers. And it was a
level one net national security event. Yet no problem for a 911
truther to just roll up on stage and hop on the bus, get through
everything with some bogus past that he had from you know, like,
the Milli Vanilli concert and comes right in everything about
being a VP
investigating 911 911
was perpetrated by people within our own government.
Now, what kind of security is that? That's not very good.
Security. Now, no one is going like Oh, how did that happen?
Gee, oh, I'm sorry. The minute the game ends, it's no longer a
security threat, apparently. While 10s of 1000s of people are
still waiting to get onto New Jersey Transit. So I guess what
the snipers went home. It's just all done at that point. We
don't shut him off right there. Oh, yeah. Where
was the red.on his head? Ah, that. It makes me so mad that
that no one picks that up and says, Hello. All of that talk
about the you know, the air strikes in the ring of steel
zones. All this stuff now? Mom, no, nothing happened now. Now.
Now. It's okay,
but have been a terrorist. So people can get in it, but it
looked at associate thing. Well, before we do that? Don't know
not before we do that. Just say what else did you have to say
there? Adam?
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Oh, yeah, this is interesting because it because we notice a
lot of these deaf cancer call outs in our show. And just play
this clip and give this a listen to
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Okay, your thoughts? Mr. Devore.
It was a special eight. You know, this is a this is
something you should be talking about. I don't know why I'm
doing it. But there was a special on free speech TV, it
was a documentary about electromagnetic issues, and
cancer increase in cancers. And they went from one repressed
report to another that weren't funded by the telecommunications
business, which clearly show that overuse of the cell phones
and Wi Fi all over the place is causing problems and they think
it may be interfering with sleep patterns.
I don't see why this would have to be so cracked potty I think
this is in fact for GE specifically has been mentioned
as a as a huge culprit and instigator of cancers but I also
have to say just look at what people were putting in their
faces you know, the people are not living healthy and they said
the low to middle income countries which were essentially
are you know, we're what are we pushing there? Coca Cola and
hamburgers. Now we're sending kale to Africa. I mean,
I heard that. Yeah, that's where it belongs.
Yes, I agree. And all the kale to Africa. I agree.
I have collected kale recipes now and remind people to go to
the or send an email to john@divorce.org with its
subject line kale, and submit your original and pass down
recipes.
Of course, I did see this report. The World War Two, the
World Health Organisation, actually the headline of that
report says, you know cancers to double by 2030 which was you
know, of course I love that so that's going on the the
2030 club.com website.
I think we stumbled onto something.
Well, you know, whenever people show up with jingles
then you know, we're onto something. It's the triangle
Sound is perfect. It's the 2030 Omni apocalypse, which I think
is good because it's like an omnibus bill. It's an apocalypse
is going to be everything. Cancer. We should just have the
segment, the 2030 Omni pocket. Thank you, John Fletcher by the
way. For customer on the POC illogical list, I think it's low
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shouldn't be c y L y.
You're asking the Dutch guy.
I'll figure it out as possible. 30 We, that's good. That's the
start. It's like metal, you can't understand a word of it.
You put it in the in the newsletter, which was good. You
put the 2030 we have a link now on the donation page for
23rd $20.30
cent donation. Very good. You become a member of the end of
the world club.
And I was very surprised that you put kittens back in the
newsletter instead of puppies.
I saw that kitten pic. If you think about that way that letter
was formatted. First I told that we were told the or producers
that we didn't get much in the way of support on the Sunday
show. And so I had a kitten looking for Lauren Lee at an
empty bowl.
I was surprised mainly because the Super Bowl actually had
switched the puppies.
No, they always had the puppy bowl. They never had a Kitten
Bowl.
Oh, I well. Maybe that's I'm just talking about the the
commercials I saw Budweiser with puppies. Puppies, puppies
everywhere.
Yeah, yeah, it was puppy puppy week. That may be when they have
puppies and one team wins and has kittens in the game. The
other could be now I'm gonna look into it. And by the
way, how you you've mentioned this many times because you
watch games. I watched one game a year. And that's
probably the best game to watch. Although this was not if you
want a real football game. It was fun game to watch
the militarism Bala turistic. Net. I mean, Bruno Mars, halfway
through his song than the cutting away to people in
Afghanistan and hey, I can't wait to come home and now and I
am the I spent four hours with Sergeant Fred here in Austin
yesterday. Just Just every couple months, I wanna sit down
with Sergeant Fred Vietnam veteran 82nd airborne. He's a
producer of the show me these guys got stories, you know, he's
got stuff to talk about. And I just think how and even he's
like, What the hell is so disgusting? How does the
militarization and Budweiser a Belgian company, pretend they're
all patriotic? And let's bring home the hero? Yeah, sure. But a
hero of what? Of what kind of war and everyone's just all in?
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Troops. This troops that. It's it's so wrong.
We're so militaristic. It's frightening.
I noticed this. You see it in college games, too. Oh, they
have the flyovers. They have the military band comes out. Yeah.
And they have the I was at a Cal game a few years ago where they
actually had a bunch of people product. During halftime they
brought these guys out in the middle of the of the game, I
swear. And they they they enlisted them but this it
has to be a combo of the mind numbing Enos of what people who
watch I mean people who really watch football, if that's what
they do. I mean, you watch you know, your interest in the game
statistics. You got some money on it, whatever you're doing,
but you're not hypnotised and only into my team. This you're
not doing fantasy football on Yahoo. And this is it's a
militaristic thing and it's being inter woven and it can't
be healthy. It just can't be It can't be.
I'm thinking Facebook is the
is the instigator of all this. And then the guy who's the most
patriotic, the number one patriotic commercial Bob Dylan,
everyone this yelling at him, where he actually said, yeah,
we'll make your cars which used to be a very normal thing every
people would be proud to drive American. And here's Bob Dylan
got God bless him making some money like and I can't believe
he's such a sellout set up as a mich que por on Twitter. 100 400
millionaire Mitch que por Oh, Everything's ruined. Sell out.
It was a great commercial. It was incredibly patriotic. And
everyone's just all over Bob Dylan's when when's the last
time you bought a Bob Dylan record Mitch K poor and sent Bob
Dylan some money? Yeah, tour. I can't believe
you're outta here. Have them starve let them starve so this
okay so
when I'm out and about and when Miss McCain i We noticed this
and you notice this to John you know you're you're like 61 or
whatever you are 6246 Hey i i Go out and I I interact with people
who are 10 years younger than we are and they don't look healthy
they look stressed and tired and distracted easily beat and and
so I'm joking about Facebook but it has to be a combination of
the bull crap that people are being fed and you're supposed to
believe to them toothpaste is going to explode.
Okay, let's see I have the toothpaste report here. We both
are on this right away. This seemed to be like a package for
some reason I'm not sure what it is is definitely a slamming
Delta. But there's something going on to play the toothpaste
report where is it?
I don't see it. That's why it's funny because oh, here it is.
It's titled l QA Dist. Alright, got it
warning about terrorism. Just as the Winter Olympics are about to
begin it involves of all things tubes of toothpaste and the
Sochi Games that start on Friday. QHPs Patty Lee is live
now at SFO she learned it has no direct flights to Russia so
petty given that our passengers reacting well, they are still
stuck. This is the way the report goes. So Adam, there's
absolutely nothing about this story that has anything to do
with where you are. So how is everyone reacting?
People are really frightened right now. They it's gotten so
bad that they are now reverting back to baking soda and water
back to you broth.
Okay. I just thought this was the lead in was just like for
one thing, so it's nonstory. Why are we playing this but okay,
parallel worlds that you got to play? Okay, well, first,
let's be honest, the crazy to toilet to toilet commodes, the
horrible hotel rooms for the journalist? That story was
getting a little old. Yeah, like okay, this is much better
because explosive materials are hidden inside travel size tubes
of toothpaste,
travel size tubes. This is even better
in any toothpaste on the plane. No, no,
no, but even travel and so this little tube
illiquidity thing Yeah, take much for a determined terrorists
to sneak them onboard. toothpaste tubes could be used
to smuggle bombs onto planes. That warning came from Homeland
Security today. And just for airlines flying direct to Russia
ahead of the Winter Olympics in Sochi is the type of venue where
you know terrorists kind of gravitate to it. I'm Rick Smith
is a former FBI agent and head of security firm Cannon Street.
He worries about the safety of the Winter Games, which
terrorists have already promised to disrupt recently unleashing
suicide bombers in other Russian cities.
I'm sorry. They recently unleashed the suicide the
terrorists unleashed the suicide bombers. Yeah. Wow. No. Wonder
people look so shit.
Demise by all this stuff. Homeland Security's warning was
directed towards us carriers, namely Delta Airlines.
And by the way, I went immediately to www.dhs.gov Not a
single warning, not a single press release, no news
information. Nothing about this whatsoever. No official from
Department of Homeland Security was ever on. There's no document
that's being pointed to which runs
a direct flight out of New York.
I believe the games will be safe. But we're in a very
different setting in Sochi than we were in Salt Lake City. Sochi
is a very dangerous neighbourhood.
Mitt Romney today called for more information about this
specific intelligence to help the TSA airlines and passengers
prepare. But Rick Smith says it's likely on a need to know
basis.
I'd like to think that there's more specific intelligence on
what they're looking for other than just a toothpaste to if
someone could, you know to a toothpaste and it's like scary.
So
it's like, Oh, I like something scary. Yeah. So safe at all.
SFO had little to say about this terrorist warning and only that
it didn't have any information to share. So here at SFO and
airports across the world ahead of the Olympics, there's a lot
of trepidation preparation and hoping for the best
you know, when I see this stuff, I of course, this is bull bull
crap. I really, I'm amazed. I'm just amazed how this propagates
and everybody jumps on board and how much they just love this. I
have a couple of clips as well about the truth, just little
blurbs and blips and shunning a lot of buzz that I want to play
because you have a blip that I want to hear that for sure he is
CNN breaking news.
Break up with me News we're following word of the possible
new terror threat. Only hours before the start of the Winter
Olympic Games in Sochi, Russia. The United States is advising
airlines with direct flights to Russia to be aware of toothpaste
or cosmetic tubes. That could be concealing explosive materials.
So did when the way broth does it just no one can really top
the guy because he's so shameless. Let's say there's
a toothpaste container of toothpaste, and it has
explosives in it. What kind of damage could that do to a plane?
And this is just a beautiful question. It's just what kind of
Let's hypothetically let's let's see, what could that do to was
see for what what do you do to a plane?
Well, any any type of explosive concealed explosive can be
extremely damaging. It could be this, of
course is the douchebag beater cane or king. Oh, yeah, I've got
Peter King a couple
times. It could be enough to bring a plane down. Oh, it
could be Peter King is now an FAA expert. He's an agent on AV
it couldn't be enough, you know, as you know, could be enough to
bring a plane down.
And but again, any type of explosive on a plane is of great
concern to us. Yes,
great concern.
Unless he was you got a mouse in his pocket, talking about rest
of
humanity who thinks it's okay to have an explosive on a plane?
So, I guess the key question, are the athletes safe right now
are the American spectators, the family members, the fans, all of
the guests who are going to Sochi in the next few days? Are
they safe?
Are they safe? They are reasonably safe,
but reasonably safe. But hold on. I don't want you to get the
wrong idea here. I would not go myself if I would not go myself
screw those Russians are an athlete. That's one thing. But
just as a spectator, I was an athlete. That's one thing. Oh,
vote this man out.
I don't know why this guy gets reelected.
This. This is unbelievable. It's just unbelievable. And then ah,
and then we have a Bernat, Erin Burnett. And she needs she got
Rogers because both Rogers and Kim Rogers Mike Rogers gather
douche bag. They were both doing the rounds. These are the two
guys who have oversight over all of our spying and security. I
don't even know if they do airport security. But for some
they're the guys who will talk and you can call it a drop of a
half of at the drop of a hat. So here's a horse. Yes. Here's the
presstitute with the media horrid presstitute Bernat about
a Olympic terror. And there's all kinds of very interesting
little memes that crop up here. evening, everyone.
I'm Erin Burnett. And we begin out front tonight with the
breaking news. A top US counterterrorism official
tonight says there are quote specific threats aimed at the
Olympics, which are just three days away.
By the way, no mention who the top guy was none of that us
tonight tracking the threats racing against time to stop any
terrorist attacks. US warships and aeroplanes are moving into
final position.
Really? Warships, aeroplanes moving into final position just
like we had war with Russia.
They're moving into what final position? They're on the art
ships on the Baltic Sea. Yes,
apparently, according to Erin Burnett, ready to respond,
they're ready to respond.
President Obama was briefed on the situation today. And his
team says that they are both taking all appropriate steps his
team regarding the safety of Americans. And joining me now is
Congressman Mike Rogers, the chairman of the Intelligence
Committee. Thank you so much for taking the time. Obviously, the
director of the National Counterterrorism Centre at the
hearing today said I'll quote him there are a number of
specific threats when it comes to terror attacks at the
Olympics. And so she How worried are you
how Oh, this is Oh, you know, this is the guy to ask, How
worried are you? I'm gonna say that probably he can't talk too
much, you know, because well,
I think the venue's themselves will be okay. You know, the
Russians have done a lot of a lot of guards, gates and guns.
Ah, here we go. Guards, gates and guns. This is a new one,
John, for some reason. This is like his little thing show
title. Yeah. And he and he brings it back in a second piece
here with Aaron, are you talking about al Qaeda? I mean, what
other threats Do you have? What do you got on open up your book?
What are the threats? Do you happen to can you just give me
some names?
Well, there are al Qaeda and al Qaeda affiliates. And we believe
other groups that that fit the terrorist profile, expressed an
interest, at least an aspiration of trying to do something about
the games. Okay, all of that is concern and it just kind of ups
the opportunities for a mistake to be made if somebody just
slipped through you know, one of the cracks in fairly robust
guards gates and guns,
guards gates and gun security plan to something up with this.
The best
security you can have is that it combined with fully robust inner
cooperative intelligence Yeah, Fully robust is missing. Yes,
fully
robust inner cooperative intelligence. That's what we
need that and that's not a show title by the way, that's just
too long. But it doesn't stop there because you know, we have
toothpastes and guards, gates and guns, but apparently we now
have a cyber FIDE the Black Widow.
Black Widows are female suicide bombers, traditionally, women
seeking revenge for the death of their husbands. But that's
changed. Now. There's a whole new group of black widows what
terror experts are telling us are black widows. 2.0 Okay.
upgrade it. I'm just speechless of
borderline Clip of the Day I am speechless. No, I you know, she
is just deteriorate. I don't watch CNN anymore.
I have to be on that you do that I have it on all the time,
because that's just where it's where the nutty stuff comes
from. Now, of course, that wasn't enough. You know, we got
to scare everybody. You're
probably responsible for half their ratings
right now, but I don't do Piers Morgan anymore, at least and you
gotta give me that. NBC. And I picked this up one of my friends
yesterday. So I totally believe this guy. What's his name? Russ
Engle, Ronald? Dog boy, something
visitors to Russia can expect to be hacked. And as Richard Engel
found out upon his arrival there, it's not a matter of if.
But when Richard, good evening. Good evening, Brian. It is not
just hacking. The State Department warned that
travellers should have no expectation of privacy, even in
their hotel rooms. And as we found out you are especially
exposed as soon as you try and communicate with anything.
Now this makes me chuckle. Because you could just say this
was for America, we there's no expectation of privacy here,
either.
Yes. I know. The irony of these
reports, especially not in a hotel room. And, and so this
goes on for a little bit, and I can just see the meeting now.
Okay, yeah. And I don't watch sports channels. Because I just
don't, but I can see like, the meetings I listen, we read we
really got to ratchet up this, this anti Russian thing. But,
you know, we're getting close to the games. Now. We got the real
sports happening. I'm thinking that we got to do something for
the sports guys guys don't want to hear about gays. They're not
interested in the gay thing. They just want to hear about
gays. We can't do that. And they have Russia hates gays. What are
we going to do? I know they're killing dogs. Yeah, that's a
good one. Everybody loves dogs. We can't just Oh, yeah. Now, I
was unaware. That Keith Olbermann. So he moved to ESPN
two, I believe, is this correct?
Back to ESPN. That's where he started right? After but this
is after he was on MSNBC. And then he was on Current TV. And
then I don't remember what happened. But then he saw it in
TV shows up sometimes on what
Current TV thing was a fiasco because it was a cheap
production. He didn't like it. He just walked off.
Right? Right. Whatever his problem was, and he shows up on
Bill Maher from time to time. But now we're on ESPN two and
then our our new night sent me a link to this clip and I'm just
going to play it until you say you can't take it anymore. Have
you ever seen his show on ESPN too?
Oh, yeah, I've seen it a number of times. What happens is he
have
They drugged him? What what has happened to him?
Like what are you asking about? I don't know what you mean.
Well, you tell me
that this is an if this is normal for Keith Olbermann, then
okay, this so heat someone said, dude, here's the memo. We have
to make people hate Russia because they're killing dogs.
So we start tonight at Madison Square Garden where this our
preparations are already underway for the 130/8
Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show for 48 hours starting Monday
2845 Dogs will be paraded, judged picked up so people can
examine their private parts, petted, hugged, nuzzled, kissed,
shampoo dried and set and loved only this year at exactly the
same time. 4600 miles away. They're holding another sporting
event whose participants sponsors and viewers are
enabling its organisers to take dogs and hunt and kill them.
hunt and kill them reportedly shoot them with poison darts or
lead poison meat for them, hunt and kill them. The Russian
government promised not to
hunt I think we get the message hunt and kill that hunt and kill
them profit, hunt and kill them for national pride. The other
event is of course the 2014 Winter Olympics.
Now is this typical for him on ESPN two is this disease stick?
Yeah. The smiling dog to my right is not from the dog show.
He's from Sochi, Russia. And he's probably dead now.
just this is this is only the beginning, John. This is only
the beginning. I sat through this last night I falling on the
floor.
So you're missing out on this grind some great material as I
said earlier in the show.
Again, he's probably the dog that over his shoulder is
probably dazzling. It's
organised, he's dead, take dogs and hunt and kill them. He's
dead. hunt and kill them reportedly shoot them with
poison darts in the back of the doors so far, it's too hot then
kill them. Though the Russian government promised not to hunt
and kill them for profit, hunt and kill them for national
pride. The other event is of course the tried. Weed gets
better 1014 Winter Olympics. This smiling dog to my right is
not from the dog show. He's from Sochi, Russia. And he's probably
dead now. I touched on this last night the area does have what
you and I would consider an enormous number of stray dogs.
North American journalists have been tweeting photos of them
commenting not just on their unexpected friendliness, but
also about how many of them look not like feral da but like
abandoned
pets. Ah, they're not just in their pets John, they're not
just feral dogs damn
rushes. They get a pet dog and he just kicked,
hunt and kill them.
The city of Sochi has a standing contract with a pest control
company to kill 300 dogs a month. More during the Olympics.
Oh, the company is called Basia services. It is run by an Alexei
Sorokin. And to horrified onlookers. He says things like
let's call things by their real name. These dogs are biological
trash. Biological trash,
the horror of calling dogs biological trash.
From the Associated Press account. Sorokin, quote, said he
was stunned last week when he attended a rehearsal for the
opening ceremony and saw a stray dog walking in on the
performers.
Now listen to this now a lot. Now listen to this because this
isn't his night for him. I think he's in
a dog ran into the fish stadium. We took it away. He said, God
forbid something like this happens at the actual opening
ceremony. This will be a disgrace for the whole country.
I prediction
Redbook put it in opening ceremony. Dog, dog, dog on the
field, snipers will not be great.
It won't be a sniper. But there'll be a dog. There'll be
some the Americans by the way, our State Department will put
the dog in their foot, the dog will bring the sneak the dog on
the field.
If only it could be Bo, or since it's still the White House dog
out there. I think it'll someone will either kick the dog. This
is going to be an international incident. And by the way, he's
in the audience of ESPN to do they really need this kind of of
indoctrination and propaganda. Are these people so brain dead
that they sit there and watch this guy do this?
And you'd have to ask that question.
The irony of his own words
as well containment of this
fabulous Sorokin, and unprecedent Putin.
And by the way, this whole thing, this whole this
controversy that is everywhere about oh they're killing the
dogs is based on a contract for to get rid of 300 dogs that are
running around the stadium and are annoying. That's what all
this whole thing is based
on a news event today ignore the issue, ignore the issue disgrace
who are the biological trash. Mr. Sorokin also told ABC News
that Sochi has, quote, an epidemic of rabies. Oh, if that
is correct, of course, the issue of dealing with the stray dogs
is irrelevant, because if Sochi has a rabies epidemic, the
spectators and athletes and journalists need to be evacuated
from the area immediately and the weapons must be cancelled
tonight.
But he's serious, John, do you think he writes this himself?
Yeah, he writes most of his own materials my understanding,
does he know that this is comedy?
Well, he is a comedian in some way so probably oh my god, I
think he's serious. dead serious about this. You want to hear
more of it? This is gonna get a big laugh.
Do you want to hear more? Yeah, this is great.
Because if that is true, not only does Mr. Sorokin kill dogs
with poisoned meat on darts, instead of capturing them and
spaying and neutering them, oh, but he's not even good at it.
It's maybe because Sorokin and his other dog killers have
competition. This is video from the Boston Globe website. From
their superb story on all this by reporter David Filippov. The
woman is Dr. Vlada probo Terrova she is a dentist and she and a
few friends have started an ad hoc Sochi dog rescue mission.
And by the way, these girls hot, hot, hot hot girls and they with
dogs hot girls with dogs
in this ramshackle kennel near a swamp there are 14 dogs and
again, like abandoned pets, again offspring abandoned rover
who should have a statue built in her honour
for saving the dogs as we can even get a podcast award. She's
getting a statue in her honour.
So she and her group have rescued sterilised found homes
for as many as 100 of the dogs. But her estimate is that
Sorokin's men may have already killed 7000 dogs.
Okay, that's enough.
It's, you just want to get the wrap up. Last 30 seconds,
wanted me to stop it. And remember this. In the next two
weeks of Olympic hype, some Americans will spend their time
and their money supporting an event that enabled this carnage.
But other Americans will refuse to do so. And perhaps a few
Americans will calculate what they might have spent on the
products advertised during the telecast of these Olympics,
Olympics stained with the blood of 1000s of dogs. And give some
of that money. All right, don't
want to hear the latest getting ridiculous. You said something
very interesting. This, by the way, this to me is like how do
you get this course he's got his own staff. I mean, that's what
he wants on that show. But it's like I got an idea. You know,
there's they're trying to scare people off to associate thing
with this. And that. Dog killers. Yeah.
But that's the meeting. I just had what we can't do gays
because the guys who watch sports are sick, and they don't
want to talk about gays all the time. No, but they'll talk about
dogs and many hunting dogs, of course, is horrible dog is man's
best friend is like killing a person. Now, you said something
very interesting. And we have it in the book now that we're
expecting a stray dog to run out during the opening ceremony,
which of course, if that happens, we'll be placed by the
State Department. Before we get to the breaking news that we
have regarding the State Department, something else
happened just recently in regards to Russia, which I
believe is now being intertwined with the homophobia, the Russia,
Russia hates gays mean. And this is the so called funding for NGO
law and just see what the exact name of it is. Have you followed
this at all? A little bit. So the the, there's a new law in in
Russia, that a non governmental organisation if they receive
money from genuine as nonprofit, they have to register as a
foreign agent. Yeah. Which is not all that abnormal. The
problem is, is this, this is the actually the Human Rights Watch.
These guys are all over this, by the way run and financed by the
State Department, State Department. So here they are in
the European Parliament. It literally combining these two,
it's a little hard to understand cuz everyone's got a frickin
accent. But yeah,
we're very concerned, too, about the certain restrictive new
laws, including the so called foreign agent law, and the
reason rates and fiscal controls performed properly by Russian
officials on the Office of several domestic and foreign
NGOs and institutions. We will also discuss the rights of LGBTI
people in the context of this new legislation passed by the
Duma that forbids I quote, the propaganda of non traditional
sexual relations amongst minus
So here's what's being said and being discussed. They're saying,
just to ratchet it up one more notch, that besides hating gays,
the Russians are cracking down on nonprofit nongovernmental
organisations who are receiving cash to help the gays. So
they're making it worth taking the gay money. This is now it's
this is obscene. What is happening? This isn't it's a
bubble. It's not true. And you've got people freaking out
and making up just making stuff up to an incredible degree.
About how and of course, you know, everyone should be careful
of America's non government organisations. Those Those
exactly the organisations that start riots.
Yeah, no. This is what we do. We get we got a clue about
this is our good at it. Yeah, we're very good at it. This is
our system. This is this is how we roll and Russia smart like
now we don't want that. You know, we want to make sure we
know what these people are doing. And now you get the oh,
there's so many,
by the way, what we generally try to do in our country. Yeah,
if there's a Russian front, yeah. We'd like to know Yeah.
Wait, go on.
No, so there's all of these different organisations. Excuse
me so you principle six.org is something you might want to look
at principle number six.org. And this is obvious, and they don't
even tell you who's financing them other than, again, American
Apparel was one of their one of their partners who's you know,
this is buying, buying order. P six gear, get your T shirt and
sit and say I hate rush. to Russia, and that's essentially
what it is. And then they'll be they'll send money to the LGBT
community to help them with whatever horrible thing is going
on in Russia, the New York Times points directly in, in one of
their articles on the lead, I guess. I don't know if it's a
blog or what that is. Yeah. Christine Houser points to a
video, a YouTube video made by Human Rights Watch, which is
well done, you know, but there's, there's no context has
no journalistic reporting here. There's no names of so called
victims of video basically shows, like six different cases
of people who are the voiceover says, This guy is gay, and they
kicked him in the head.
The guy that's there even happened in San Francisco Yeah,
or even we just had people here in Austin on Sixth Street,
kicked while they're on the ground big scandal about it did
gay or not, which they don't think they were but it happens
everywhere, but the way it's put together. And this is the New
York Times, with just days left until the start on Friday of the
Sochi Winter Olympics, Human Rights Watch released a video on
Tuesday, completely edited could be from 20 years of material, no
names no nothing journalistic whatsoever. Human Rights Watch
released a video on Tuesday that highlights the disturbing
violence and discrimination that gay, lesbian, transgender and
bisexual people face in Russia. That is propaganda. It is not
journalism, whatever it is, it's just not journalism. That just
saying things. And I understand. Yeah, we're pissed that we
didn't get the Olympic Games and that Snowdens in Russia, but T
people make it a little less obvious. And then something came
out just before we started the show, and this is also in
relation to Russia. Regarding Ukraine, you want to set this
clip up?
Yeah, turns out and now we have to think about where this claim
claim Yes, showed up mysteriously on the internet.
And there's there's layers and layers of irony about this clip.
And I believe and I will you could put in the Red Book or not
doesn't make any difference because so obvious. This will be
a scandal later this week. Right now many people here will be
hearing it for the first time and you'll probably hear it
again later. We're gonna try to suppress it of course
I agree. Well, you're gonna hear it uncensored here to start
with, which is good. Right, and let's just lay it out. We have
uses
Victoria Nuland on the phone with the with the ambassador,
American Ambassador to the Ukraine. just chit chatting
and let in this. I was gonna say let's get a little background on
the Ukrainian situation. The Ukrainian
situation is completely you know, it's out of control. It's
a they're trying to overthrow the government. And it's just a
little even more background we have of I don't know how to put
this because there's our one of our economic hitmen. We do have
a few. But one of them who's a friend of mine has been dating
this woman who is you know that there's this I can't remember
the name.
Hold on a second. Hold on backup just a little bit. One. So a
friend of yours is dating a woman and he's an economic
hitman or she's she's
an economic hitman and she's a spy for the State Department. As
long as our show by the way, she hates us.
Hate. Yeah, wait a minute,
I would say that's probably right.
Have you met her?
Know, okay, but never meet her. She won't meet us. Wow. And it
turns out she is
because because we unmask the CIA as for what they really are.
That's what she hates us.
No, she's not. She's in State Department. She knew they stayed
in Florence. Get that little agency.
Oh, okay. This is from all our Hillary bashing. I get it.
Yeah. intelligence.gov has got the list of all these little
mini agents. Okay, I get it. I get it. And she's the one and
let me get the name of them. I had it here. I sent myself a
note. And I can't find a note. Did you email that to yourself?
How do you do it? I mail it to myself. So it will go to the
here's the go to intelligence.gov. And then when
you go to member agencies under mission, you have the all the
agencies and this is all they're all these agencies are in a
club. This is a club, literally a collaborative club of all the
top intelligence agencies. There's the Central Intelligence
Agency, the Department of Energy Office of intelligence, they
have an Intelligence Agency, Department of Homeland Security
has an intelligence agency, the Department of State this is her
I think I don't know this for a fact I just put
put two and two together. There's a lot going on here.
Department of
State is called Intelligence and Research. It's a spy agency that
the State Department runs on its own. I believe this woman works
for him. She's in the Ukraine. Okay, Newlands in the Ukraine.
They're all
in the Ukraine right now,
the Department of State's Intelligence and Research
operation is interesting because they're so they actually
assigned a slightly meta Intelligence Group because they
they overlook all the OIC do a little oversight on all the
other intelligence agencies to make sure that they're
supporting each other, the State Department's theories about the
world,
right, which is that they have the official ones and then the
unofficial, which is Human Rights Watch and Amnesty and all
these fantastic organisations, which literally get funding from
the State Department. And then there's the nongovernmental
organisations on the ground, who just like what Russia is now
forbidding start, start stuff and start a ruckus.
So So Nuland was phone tapped, and who do you think might have
done that? Yeah, so we I think you probably agree with this. We
assumed the Russians tapped your phone and released this thing,
hoping it would go viral. Remember, I'm sorry. Play it.
Okay.
And so let's just the players, again, are Ukraine in the
middle. Russia wants to transit gas and everything through
Ukraine into their biggest, they keep it as a buffer state and at
Buffer State offered security as well and wants to supply supply
their gas to their biggest customer, the European Union,
the European Union, really wanted to get Ukraine in, you
know, to obviously, to fix the prices of the gas. And you know,
and of course, we have another country moving to the euro. And
the United States, I think I have a report which kind of
shows what our true mission is. But we're well, here's Victoria
Nuland And, clearly, we're a player separate from Ukraine and
the EU can't remember
if I told you this, or if I only told Washington this that when I
talked to Jeff Feltman this morning, he had a new name for
the UN guy, Robert Serry, did I write that this morning? Yeah, I
saw that. He's now gotten both salary and Bonnke. Moon to agree
that salary could come in Monday or Tuesday. Okay. So that would
be great, I think to help glue this thing and have the UN help
glue it. And, you know, fuck the EU, though. Exactly. And
I think we've got to do something to make it stick
together. Because you can be pretty sure that if it does, if
it does start to gain altitude, the Russians will be working
behind the scenes to try to torpedo it. Yes.
First of all, is also in the in somewhere in the clip, the
original clip. She goes on to say that she wants to make sure
Klitschko who is the head, essentially the titular head of
the of the opposition. Not to be part of this at all, if we want
to put in one of our guys. And we're already planning to put in
an American stooge in this Ukrainian situation. And this is
not this isn't. So the Russians, obviously, of doing what they do
what we do, they tap the phone, but instead of what we do, which
is keep the stuff in a big pile over there, and Utah somewhere,
they released it,
put it on the internet. Now, I think I know what some of this
is about. There's something that happened in Ukraine, which I was
unaware of. And here's a report from I think this is well, it's
an English report, one of our Ukrainian listeners sent this to
me. And I was surprised by this knowledge and operating
agreement on shale gas production between Ukraine and
the US oil and gas company Chevron may be signed in March,
and therefore Chevron will be able to actually start
development of the Alaska field in western Ukraine. Apparently,
there's some big shale gas in Ukraine that has been recently
discovered. Oh, and shapes then Chevron, Chevron gets the
contract they need to start in March. So what do you do you
call your resource extraction organisation known as the State
Department, who then do whatever necessary until ultimately
sending in the jackals on behalf
of Chevron? Yes,
acting energy and coal industry minister at the Watts debates
case had this on Tuesday, Chevron representatives are in
Ukraine and coordinate their actions with the Ministry so
it's keynoted besides, according to the Acting Minister and
investment programme of the shell company for 2014 was
approved last shell. So we have Chevron we have shell
I think we're gonna keep with Chevron because fuck the EU.
Fuck the EU. They can you dig and take shell out of there?
Yes. Chevron. Chevron is working for one country, not to Chevron.
Yeah. Yeah, it's all fun. But
but really, it's all about human rights. And we just want you
know, we just want if we have democratic countries with
Democratic leaders, the world is a better place. It's not at all
about, I don't know, oil and gas. It's so transparent. I'm
blown
away with the staying with the State Department. Are you
familiar with the with the parody video? That's a big
scandal. No, I'm actually gonna go I'm gonna mention something
else about our economic hitman his girlfriend. Oh, after I
bring this out there so there's a parody video floating around
Israel I believe and it's got innocence. It's a news report. I
only have the absolute beginning of it. I have
heard about I think I saw I haven't seen I don't know what
it's about. So hold on, hold on. Mr. De save all around. Now, you
sure you want to talk about the State Department?
State Department so they have versus video on this list? I
got State Department and the video would that be it?
State that's I think that's her. I think that's a Pataki or
whatever. No, it's
her name. No, Jen. Jen Sakhi saqi.
Talking about it. Speaking American slamming, robbing the
prison State Department on peace talks. Aaron No, it's horrid
Carrie parody, you know, this just the beginning of the thing
because there's no reason to watch or listen to the whole
thing is mostly visual anyway. And I'll set it up. There's a
it's a fake news report. And John Kerry is floating around
the Middle East and hit and there's a guy who's who's like a
short version of John Kerry looks a little like him. He's
got a phoney wig on and he's in a big giant Escalade with a
bunch of Pat
who was this is this Israeli produced is this
it's sketchy. But I think we think it's Palestinian produced
or maybe Israeli produced one of the two they don't like carry
either side. Good both sides in this of this debate about you
know, the they're trying to do peace talks and whatever. Nobody
likes carry this. So nobody likes carry so they're doing the
same. So the guy looks a little like carry but he's he sounds
like like a Turkish rug salesman. So you won't get any
carry imitation. Alright, this is just the very beginning of
it. And this was good began the controversy.
John Kerry landed this morning in Israel as part of his ongoing
efforts to broker an agreement between Israel and the
Palestinians.
If not, my name is not Dr. John Kerry. John Kelly. Yes. Jonathan
solutions. Yes.
Carrie began his tour at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem.
Perhaps the most sensitive issue in the negotiations. Providing
Jerusalem is not an easy thing.
We must realise that it's holy to all religions, Jews,
Christians, Muslims, Buddhists. Klingons. And what I'm saying is
why fight over an old wall? I'll build you a brand new wall.
Anyway, it goes on like that.
Okay, so yeah, it's a bit parody. All right, understand?
What got
International is an international incident this
video?
Well, it's, it's become an issue, okay? Because it's it
because according to Jen, you know, they're insulting for
Kerry left and right. And this is just another example of the
insults being thrown at this poor bastard.
This is a State Department in the video. So this would be the
State Department and the video, the q&a that went on about this
video. And it turns out, there's a little factoid in here which I
want to discuss and after
you watch the Israeli settlers councils video, the local India
is Middle East peace efforts.
I don't believe he's watched the video. We're certainly aware of
the video. I have not personally watched it now a new reaction to
it. I think it it goes in with what I've already stated about
attempts to mischaracterize his record his position, his
positions on issues, his statements, how that is not an
attack on him. That's an attack on the process. And of course,
that kind of rhetoric we find unacceptable.
I mean, clearly, the Secretary does not believe that Jerusalem
is the holy city for hobbits. Yeah, man, I
have not seen the video match. Perhaps. So perhaps now you've
sold it very well. I will I will watch the video I'm making a
broad point about all the different
what kind of a lying sack is she? I have not seen your video
course she's seen the video. Well, here's
the thing. I'm you know, I thought that too. And I think
that's for example, it's sunlight his hits. I would be
the first one to if I'm working the State Department. I'd be the
first one to get on that video. Exactly. I'm not absolutely sure
that you mean it sounds like yeah, I I questioned it because
the woman that I believe is part of the Yeah, so she's in the
State Department. She's part of intelligence. So the Her
boyfriend, sits her down at his computer and asks her I mean,
never get another note from these guys asks her to, she
says, Have you ever seen the Bradley Manning stuff?
You mean like the helicopter killing people?
Well, she I don't know if she even saw that. But I'm talking
about the the WikiLeaks the big pile of crap, right? The cables,
right? And she said, No. She's not allowed to ever see them.
It's just what you can't i can't access them at the office
illegal.
She's She's It's classified. So she's not allowed to see it. I
think. Isn't that the idea? Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Who Are they kidding, with this nonsense that they can't
look at this stuff.
It's called compartmentalization. And it's
done with very specific reasons. So no one really has the full
picture. The fact that you and I have a pretty decent picture,
makes no difference. We're expendable. I can get to the
head in five seconds. If I'm annoying enough. It's just Yeah,
it's not important
to me. If you want to look at it from that perspective, I there's
plenty. You're not the only one that's that has a broad
perspective, there's plenty of people that have a much better
perspective than we haven't have worked in the government, and
maybe are not security cleared, but they've seen enough and
they've heard enough and people gossip. I also
think that people are very afraid. I believe that the a lot
of the people that I've met in the DC area, and certainly
during our first Hot Pockets tour, who have clearance,
certain clearances, they don't want to risk. They don't want to
risk their job. They want to risk anything by looking at
something that may not be cleared for them for their
level, because they know that it's being checked. And yeah, of
course, there's people who who have a lot of the the whole
picture, but I think those those people are on podcasters I don't
think I don't think the government actually allows this
to happen. I really don't. It's called compartmentalization. It
happens all the time. So no one within government can really put
it all together.
Yeah, I guess you can walk around as a cog in the wheel.
Just lockstep and not caring that there's, you know, you've
been fed crap.
People like their jobs that like their houses, they like their
lives. They're being told by the television what to do. And
then they do it. Yeah, exactly. So I have the opinion that it's
quite possible that she hasn't seen the video. And she'd been
she makes it because the way she's answered the question, she
says, Well, this is just another example of Miss
characterization, which is not has nothing to do with Carrie,
but it's the process and blah, blah, blah. That's if she saw
the video Like, like Matt has seen it. Okay, she would have
known it's just ridiculous and she would have said, Yeah, I saw
it. It's ridiculous. Now she could have been forbidden from
seeing it, which is like
he really, here's what I don't understand. So parodies are done
all the time. In this country everywhere around the world. Why
all of a sudden, is this parody? Such a big deal? It's not like
the Knesset produced the video themselves. This is just This is
more this is this is psychological warfare, and we're
falling for it and Matt clearly is a part of it. Why else would
he bring this is not a big deal.
It wasn't his question it was somebody else's matches threw in
the kicker wondering why she was nuts why she didn't see it.
Okay and so it it sounded like an Israeli guy who brought it up
yeah did write it was well this is just they don't like carrying
they're trying to stir up trouble. Yeah, and Israelis
conserve as much trouble as the Russians big time. Oh, you're
not gonna be dropped and phone taps either
way. This Justin and I think this is the right move. Billie
Jean King no longer part of the Olympic delegation.
Oh good for her. Yeah,
she's I know exact she's I think she's great you guys Oh no, my
mom is sick whatever exactly. You do not want any part of this
Billie Jean King you don't want any part of this farce
Yeah, it's this rush of this is getting ridiculous as far as I'm
concerned this Russian crap and American crap at the throwing
all this junk get the Russians to screw up the Olympics is one
thing leaking, you know, private conversations, which again for
no one on the State Department probably get to listen to.
Anyway, I think it's going to cause it neulander job.
Do you think that this will be picked up or do you think it
will be completely ignored by the media?
I think is going to have to be picked up was just one of those
things. Once it gets tweeted. By the no agenda show where
whoever. Yeah, it's out I mean, This is gonna be good. They're
gonna start asking why isn't somebody saying something? I
just know what? I think you know who's gonna bring it up? Matt?
Your buddy Nigel? Oh, Faraj. Yes. Well, Nigel brings it up.
It's all over.
Well, let me ask you out, why have we still not seen a single
clip? Or, quote or anything from the German Snowden interview?
This is the somewhere a memo went
free at this point. I'm sorry. I said it's creepy at this point.
It's extremely creepy. Not a single news organisation can
justify not pointing to it talking about it quoting
anything from it. It's not acceptable.
No, it's not. I'm getting the sense that all these people are
read in. They've signed security agreements. And they're not
going to say anything, because they're not allowed to. I think
that's where the media is, right?
I agree with you. That's exactly where it is, we are the only
bastions of freedom.
It's pretty close to that. I mean, we could have the knock on
the door. And it would be the guy would come in not to shoot
you. Oh, to give me come and say here
are signing this. You are signing this. Now.
You're gonna get some security levels z, which is at the
bottom, but you can now you can't talk about any of this
stuff.
What would happen that would that's that
that's what this show is?
Yeah, it actually scares me more than anything. I'm less worried
of getting to to the head than getting the NSL to get the
letter, then it's all over. And then I have no vocation.
There may be and we don't know what NSL is there are that are
out there. There may be NSOs. We've never heard of that do
exactly what I just described, which shuts you up as a member
of the media or there was just thrown in jail.
Yeah, somehow I still don't think that were important
enough. I just don't see it
now. I don't think so either. Quickly. I think a lot of people
in government listen to us. And they go that's pretty good and
wrong. Wrong.
That's pretty good. Hey, wanna go out to lunch?
It's pretty good. So what Yeah, I mean, Doolin thing has nothing
to Newland thing. Now I agree about that. Just very
disconcerning that the there's two things disconcerning about
the Snowden interview. One is that it's not gotten any play in
the USA by any media outlets has gone by as you know, people like
us. A and B. Where's the other six hours of it? How come that
hasn't been leaked out?
Oh, yeah. No, there's it's it's very edited. Very, very,
extremely tightly at it. It was also either questions or even in
English. I mean, how international Do you want it to
be? You know, now, there's something that came up. And this
goes back to Rogers, but it's part of the the snow job thing
as this move toward moves towards the obvious media shield
law, in violation of the American Constitution. This is
Rogers baiting, literally baiting Comey. Now Comey is
variances that new Director of the FBI, he's a new kid on the
block. He's very, very good. I mean, he's a banker. He was on
the board of directors, HSBC, and you know, he's part of the
big hedge funds. As the right guy. He's the right guy to have
because the FBI, of course, helps launder the money. And
he's on the, in the congressional hearing that this
is just one of the little bits of it. And Rogers is making a
very, very interesting argument for theft of documents and how
and the difference between theft of documents and fencing, stolen
property and freedom of the press, which I got to hand it to
Comey. He's not really taking the bait, but he is setting the
debate up.
There have been discussions about selling of access to this
material to both newspaper outlets and other places. Mr.
Comey the best of your knowledge, is fencing stolen
material, is that a crime? Yes, it is. And would be selling the
access of classified material that is stolen from the United
States government is would that be a crime?
It would be it's an issue that can be complicated if involves
the news gathering and news promulgation function, but in
general fencing or selling stolen property is a crime.
So if I'm a newspaper reporter for fill in the blank, and I
sell stolen material, is that legal? Because I'm a newspaper
reporter.
Right? If you're a newspaper reporter and you're hacking
stolen jewellery, it's still a crime. And if
I'm hacking stolen, classified material that I'm not legally in
possession of for personal gain and profit, is that not a crime?
I think that's a harder question because it involves a news
gathering function could have First Amendment implications.
That's something that probably I think we better answered by the
department justice.
So entering into a commercial enterprise to souls sell stolen
material is
at the back of have a little bit Did you were you kibitzing and
you said you think or there was that?
I'm sorry. I said that. I said that. That was me.
I thought it was Rogers.
I'm working on my Rogers impersonation. Okay. Were you
confused? Sorry about that. Sorry about that. But he might
as well have said it,
the amendment implications that something would probably be
better answered by the Department of Justice.
So entering into a commercial enterprise to source sell stolen
material is acceptable to a legitimate news organisation.
I'm not sure I'm able to answer that question in the abstract.
It's something we ought to think about, is it not by the way,
that that's a keeper?
I'm not sure I'm able to answer that question in the abstract.
Yeah,
that's that's a pro. That's, that's,
that is a that is a lawyer banker dude, right there that is
Pro.
So this is reminds me John Dean during the Nixon impeachment,
where he I always tell people this I used to when I was at the
air pollution district, I had to give a lot of testimony and we
learned a lot of these tricks. This is a good one. And that's a
good one never heard that one before. But my favourite one,
which is what John Dean used to just do constantly, is that he
preface every answer with I'm not sure I fully understand the
question, but Right, but this has been you're off the hook.
I don't think I can answer that question in the abstract. Hi,
yes. So it's just beautiful. It's beautiful to view. Thank
you. I'm keeping this for the rest of my life.
I'm not sure I'm able to answer that question in the abstract,
beautiful,
something we ought to think about. Is it not? Oh, yes,
certainly. And so if there are accomplices and purveying stolen
information, shouldn't we be concerned about
that? We should be concerned about all the facts surrounding
the theft of classified information and its
promulgation.
Now, here. He's now Rogers is about to say something very
interesting. All these guys went to the big security conference
in I think it's Munich. It's every year every other year, and
this everybody goes all the intelligence all the spooks are
in Germany.
And interestingly, over the, again, the Munich conference
where we had individuals tell us that in fact, there are
individuals who were saying to be in possession of this
information or eager to sell this information to other news
organisation Poydras Applebaum is would that be a legitimate
exercise on behalf of a reporter?
That's a question now you're getting from the general to the
particular I don't want to talk about the case in particular,
because it's an active investigation of ours.
It's an active investigation for accomplices brokering and stolen
information.
We are looking at the totality of the circumstances around the
theft and promulgation.
That's very interesting.
That's very interesting. It's a common so this is going to
define what when you are a journalist who is a journalist
and when you are hogging stolen information
the setup is beautiful they're out to get Glenn Greenwald for
sure. I
don't know if they're out to get him. I don't I'm not so sure
they need him. Keith, I think Greenwald is going to get the
licence Greenwald will be licenced but they're gonna
they're gonna have to screw someone. I hope it's Applebaum.
Oh, God, I hope they take him
sure. I think I think they're now you really think
that they're gonna nail Greenwald?
I think they want to, because if you listen to enough of these
hearings are always bitching about this. We're talking about
the green wall. And green was the one that was listed in strat
for as a guy you gotta get Okay. Remember that? Yeah.
I you know, it doesn't really matter. They're still the
assault is still on to determine who is who is allowed to report
and who's not allowed to report that's essentially where it's
going to where it's going to go.
That's the long term. That's the long game. But let's make a few
examples out of some guys over at it. Yeah. Do you want to
steal this stuff? Find
out what those podcasters
but again, we don't know anything. All we do is analyse.
I saw that there's a new podcast network called Radio topia. And
they are being financed by the Knight Foundation. Starting off
with $200,000 This is you know how come they don't sponsor us?
For good reason?
Yeah. PRX the online marketplace for public media.
Saul just say they're sponsoring people. They will do their
bidding.
Yeah, exactly. And the new entrant the new hire at first
look media Pierre Oh my dark drive my car and Granberry Well,
the new guy the new guy any idea new new guy? You're gonna love
it. Oh, who Andy carbon,
though. Wow. Put that in the Red Book who was should have
predicted we should have
done that. I didn't. Apparently he took the buyout from NPR. I
didn't even know that they had to cut staff and so they gave me
the offered him a buyout and he took it. So he took the buyout
and he took the new job at the baby. You can dry my cars place.
Wow. Yeah. Well, that's a catch. Yeah,
that's going to it's going to be very interesting. This is it's
probably, it's almost like a honeypot for douchebags. Blow
that thing up, eventually just get rid of everybody.
I'm gonna show my school by donating to
no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh,
yeah, that'd be fun.
Whoa, what happened? I don't know.
So they have a note from somebody before I get to my
names here. They're getting close. Just wanted to pass along
an observation about native advertising. This anonymous
producer says the two of you seem to be so against it as I
am. But I find it interesting. How you to manage to insert into
every show or so it seems. I think it was mentioned once in
seven years. Comments promoting the Amazon Kindle. Yeah, this
was a really, this was really bad if you episodes ago and John
went on and on about how great it is to read books on the new
Kindle Paperwhite. So just what is Amazon going to, to exchange
for all this? free shipping on your mac and cheese? I free
shipping anywhere. I'm a member of Amazon Prime. Now, I sent a
note you sent a note you just
didn't say that. I said like I said, this is because he says
not an OS is not an observation. It's an insult. And I take and
I'm offended by it.
Yeah, you were offended. By the way I said, I just want to say
something about this. Because the fact that we don't have
advertising the fact that we're not doing native advertising,
we're not taking any money from anybody like that allows us to
say what we think and I like the Kindle Paperwhite. And I can
honestly say it, I'm not sponsored by nook, that mate
would tell me not to say this. So I'm not sponsored by Amazon
ever told me to pump it more or to put down or to give a model
number or who knows what they do, or
even audible who would be against the whole idea of
reading in general,
especially on the Amazon Kindles which have a little button you
can push it or read the book for Yeah. So anyway, the the freedom
of being able to say what I want about all these products, and I
don't do it that often. But once in a while I do like a product.
And this one is one of them. Is is the reason that this model
worked so well. And I want to remind people of that. And it's
really shameful that somebody would think the opposite, as
though be a joke,
even as a joke. Sorry, even as a joke. It's nice, even
as a joke. Because if we completely if you're completely
sponsored by individuals, are we not supposed to talk about any
product in a product oriented universe? Is that what you're
saying? So we can't mention anything? Oh, gee, I got my car,
what kind of car you drive? I can't say because because
they're not giving me money. So I can't talk about it. It just
really, I found the whole thing to be that sort of attitude. By
the way. That's not the first guy that brought this this stuff
up about native advertising that they're, well, you're plugging
you plugged the guy's website when he when he gave you a
donation of $100. That kind of guy. You get a clue people
but that's not exactly how he sounds. You're not doing that
part, right. I'm sorry. Oh, you're not doing the guy, right.
I know. You have the guy's voice down. I see you plugging the
guy's website. You. You said you do take advertising. That's the
guy. That's the guy. Yeah, your voice is a little better for
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Secondly, I want to add a little incentive to keep the rainstick
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Well, I need to we need the rain here.
And I think I had my rainstick pointed the wrong way. So I
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course, the reason to track it is we have a big European, the
elections coming up in a couple of months, a lot of different
things are happening and a deal has finally been reached. And
this is what I was most interested in on the bailing of
the banks. You recall that this was tested in Cyprus was a
Cyprus Yeah, with Cyprus. And now the European Parliament and
council presidency negotiators reached an agreement yesterday
on the bank Recovery and Resolution Directive. And the
idea is that this will be the bail in principle instead of
bail out principles. So the first people who would get
screwed by due to a bank failure would be shareholders and
creditors, before the public uses tax money, which has been
the case for the past. What is it now five, six years,
particularly in the Netherlands, I might point out, here's the
rub. This does not go into effect until January 2016. And a
lot could happen before then. As it turns out, only six banks in
the EU have almost $2 trillion worth of exposure. In the
emerging markets total value is 3.4 trillion. This of course, is
the Argentina, Turkey. What other countries that we have
that are screwed up? I mean, didn't Argentina de venezuela
This is out as completely I think Venezuela is a huge
problem. Is this like it's just coming apart? It's like a basket
case?
Yeah, well, it was poorly managed.
And so these banks have all these have loaned all this money
to these emerging markets. And I presume the only the only thing
for them to do now is to inflate their money in order to print
more to pay it back. But I think this is why we're seeing all
kinds of it's not just the Feds 10 billion less tapering. I
think that there's a real problem with the European banks
if you and Horowitz any discussions about this? No. I'd
be very curious to hear what he has to say. All right. And I
think that this bail in directive is a great idea, but
it's just kind of covering up because it won't go in into
effect until 2016. I think we could see some real problems
with the big European banks in the next year even more
Well, they're pretty good at juggling.
If you can only juggle so much until it just, oh, they
obviously can
juggle the 2016. Or they wouldn't have gone for this. No,
that's the way I see I see exactly
the opposite. They push it off to 20 to 2016 because it's going
to happen before then. Which means it'll be taxpayers money.
That's what I'm thinking.
No, that's that's a good logic. I like it. Yeah, stick the
taxpayers. Yeah. Well, the European taxpayers are screwed.
There's no doubt about it. There's all this crap going on.
Can you play a little clip this logistics crazy clip from
Ireland from I don't know, I shouldn't be watching this Irish
news. It's actually Irish news. But the 14 inches of rain
next to their property. Since early morning. Cork City has
been preparing for what is expected to be the worst flood
in many years.
There is a lot of apprehension we've all come in with Malibu to
snow this morning. Preparation for this evening, because
yesterday morning was absolutely horrific. And the water was
very, very high on again, it was experienced the height of the
water.
And the memory of yesterday's floods were still vivid. Rose
Cronin is just one trader that got hit. And she only opened her
business before Christmas. We were expecting wash to come into
vogue 12 or 14 inches tonight. That's what the expectation is.
So I got clear on my stock. No, I appreciate it. This is not so
good. 14 inches. That is a lot of rain. So South American
style, you know, rain forest,
there's all kinds of stuff happening in the UK. There's
train tracks washing out and yeah,
Cornwall's being washed away.
So hold on a second
there you go Ireland.
From the Hillary, no one's who by the way, I don't believe
anyone's ever used the effects of a rain stick on a podcast or
a broadcast that so it's just not localised. In other words,
we're not just the noise is not just a local noise. You know,
this magical noise. It's actually being good showing up
everywhere. It may be maybe dangerous thing to do. We should
probably stop.
We should consult the manual perhaps.
Well, I don't I didn't get a manual mind.
From the Hillary 2016 department never ceases to amaze. First of
all, someone put a I'm ready for Hillary bumper sticker in my
mailbox. All right. I'm looking at you Armando. I bet you I
think there's the mailman. I think he's playing a joke on me
like yeah, I'm sure yeah. That was funny.
When I said what to me, me.
Have you followed this? Tom Sizemore Elizabeth Hurley Bill
Clinton story? No, this is great. Because this actor I'd
never heard of and Tom Sizemore. Yeah, he's
famous. He is. Yeah, well,
so he there's a tape of him the tape is now it's all transcribed
and I didn't want to get anything is not worth a clip.
But he essentially is talking about how he introduced
Elizabeth Hurley to Bill Clinton. The and how Bill
Clinton like pushed them into a corner and said, you know, give
me her number. I'm the I'm the commander in chief. I'm gonna
fucking kill you if you don't give me this was when he was
president. Yes. And, and, and so he they sent a plane for Hurley
and she got on the plane with an hour flew down the White House
and was there for four days. And Bill was just ravishing the crap
out of her for four days. And it's now sighs Moore's taking it
all back. And it's but it's, it's really Yeah, sure with a
gun to his head. Yeah, but it's hilarious. I love this. It makes
so much sense. And you see pictures of Elizabeth Hurley and
Bill Clinton like yeah, he's totally doing her. Just it's
everything is coming in and he was one of his
heroes. They're doing anything they can to it's just it's all
starting now. It's going to be resolved part
of this is campaigning Yes, of course it is. It's it's gonna
somebody has to do this. There are people that would like to
get that job and may not like Hillary getting the job and so
the best way to get at Hillary is the you know, as to embarrass
her because she's obviously she's just makes her look like
well, she can't even keep dragging her own household
what's going on? And why could she be president she can't even
tell that we're all man is screwing Elizabeth Hurley is not
as though she's Elizabeth her he's not unrecognisable where's
the made so that's that's the that's what the point of it is
obviously I fear for Bill they're gonna have to kill him.
Yes.
That's what I was thinking like I fear for Bill. This is not
good for his health.
But we predicted She's gonna kill him for votes eventually.
But it may be soon you may win because your bet was just going
to be before the election. Like no, I was before the election
you I thought you were like this year was like the next six
months.
Yeah, you might want to pull the red book predictions because now
I'm uncertain what the timing was. I'll
dig it up. Whatever the case. I will it's in the other I know
where I can find that one.
But I can it's just yeah, Bill is in trouble. He's he needs to
lay very low for a while.
Elizabeth Hurley that Trump
Well, she is let's be honest, I think she's always been looking
for the guy that would take care of her the way this is my own. I
have no idea. I don't know. Where's my perception? And it's
bad of me to think this but I've always felt that she would go
for any guy that would take care of her so she could do a roll
here and then she isn't she married to that Indian guide and
she settle for an Indian guy at the end.
That's a good question. Some probably some rich guy person
was you know, it was her up on the book of knowledge.
Please, I think she got married to some Indian guy and find out
Get me some positioning. Lizabeth hurry. Tom Sizemore
blames Hurley okay got that part? Yeah. It's pretty early
denies bill. She's beautiful. She's very sexy. And she's good
looking woman.
You got to Google the pictures of her and Bill and she's like,
rubbing his back and so obvious
when she was last seen with fashion designer Valentino at
the 2007 Cannes Film Festival. Where's the say she's married.
Partner. She's guys partners, and she had to grant a 2000 and
he ran off with a black woman Shane wore worn Awa or
didn't you run off with a black man? I thought I thought it was
a transsexual that he that he was caught with wasn't a
transsexual
a black transaction was a black person black hooker no as a
black hole cares about the colour. All right, whatever.
Yeah, there you go. Take notes, people. It's just a black guy
like chick. Let's see personal life. She had a couple kids.
They're one at least male and just by some casual guy.
The kids always get in the way of screwing the president.
That's annoying.
Oh, here it was late. 2002. Hurley you're just old news.
Curly stay started dating Indian textile air era now er, run a
small software company since 98. She likes nerds early and they
are married. They up? Okay, you got me on this. They got married
at sudden Delhi castle in 2007 had a second traditional Hindu
wedding. Indian celebration blah, blah, blah, really is net
Hurley, whose net worth is estimated at 13 million pounds,
raised a 200 acre she really resided on a 200 acre or an acre
organic farm and bambas Lee Glauser glocester off. All
right,
I don't think I care that much anymore.
I'm just trying to figure out she's married. Still married to
this guy can't tell. Alright, whatever.
I heard a very interesting
divorced him into Tesla, no cow. Okay, so she got some money
and but the whole bill thing was much earlier. Yeah. I was
listening to this thing. On I was stuck in traffic. The other
day, I was listening to NPR and I think was fresh air with Terry
Gross, fresh air. And she added this author on a book about
things like the the joy, all joy and no fun of having children.
It's just this Hurley thing reminded me of that. And all
studies point to the fact that the children have chained
Parenthood has changed in the past, like two generations,
where kids used to be an economic plus to the family. We
have some kids and you put them to work. Yeah, make them do
something. Yeah. But now, it has turned around into they've
become this incredible burden. And we have to ensure their
happiness and make sure they don't get scratched or cut or
damaged. helicopter parent as well. And that pretty much
across the board. Every study shows that kids make people
unhappy. By like, yeah, yeah. We should get back to that. Put
them to work. Yeah, yeah. You've done that very well. I love how
you're you've put your kids to work all the time. They'd like
to work. Yeah. Well, I think kids in general like to work.
It's just not if you don't bring them up that way, then they
don't know what it is.
That's how they do stuff and they, you know, found nails and
do books. Writing
pull up pound nails. It was the other one. Do books like the
accounting? Yeah. Who was pounding? They're all computer.
They're all computer literate, which is kind of interesting.
Interesting. Yeah, it's
handy. Yeah. I've been following the Panama Canal that you
brought this up a few episodes ago where work has stopped. And
I've been I've been looking into this, they want to broaden this
canal, this is a big problem, everyone's ready for this canal
to be widened so they can bring in the big ships. In fact,
they're already constructing new ships based upon the Panama
Canal widening, in the new locks will accommodate ships carrying
up to 12,000 containers currently, that's 5000 is a
limit. And we were looking at this you know, the financing a
pet that there's a there's a dispute between the builder and
the Panama Canal Authority, and the the and the Spanish builders
and the finance years. And so there's an actual it's going to
the court. So that's what's happened, there is a dispute,
but no one really can explain what it is. I guess it's you
know, it's not someone can explain it, but I don't think
the documents have been published yet. But what here's
what I was looking for. There is a competing canal being built
through Nicaragua, that's what that's the one that Chinese are
financing.
Well, you know, Nicaragua was the original location for the
Panama Canal for Nicaraguan canal. Yeah. And it's a very
funny story behind it. It was apparently easier to dig the
Panama area. If you see any of these documentaries about that
canal, it was a nightmare. And apparently it still is a because
of the conditions and the distance that you had to go up
and down. And I guess it was easier to do whatever there was
a lot longer to do in in Nicaragua. But they had what had
stopped it was kind of a weird story. What stopped it was a
stamp there was there's a bunch of competing groups in there and
they the US Post Office produced a stamp celebrating this
alternative route and they had acted they had on the stamp and
active volcano that was actually the US, US Congress. Next step
route. We're
not going to do that. I don't like the mushroom cloud on your
stamp.
So anyway, that's one story. We
have a lot of listeners what not a lot. We have listeners in
Panama, one of them has a hotel.
Yeah, we were invited. Or you are I don't remember my invite.
But maybe you know, you of course, you're invited, please.
I'd love to visit Panama supposed to have been modernised
is really supposed to be happening spot now. Well, you
sent me a few pictures. It's beautiful. Pictures now? Well, I
think you were on the list. Then, let's see. Oh, yes, Google
has struck a deal with the European Union to make, quote,
significant changes in their search results to avoid a
multibillion euro fine. This is the result. This is I find
fascinating for just a couple of reasons. This is the this ends a
three year investigation of anti competitive anti competition
investigation that Google gives higher rankings and preference
to products they own in their search results. And to avoid
this find Google said okay, we're going to settle however,
this is the rub. Which the second time I've said that
today. The company the competing search engines are not allowed
to review the changes Google will be making. So the European
competition commissioner who are keen Almunia struck a deal with
Google. And they said, Okay, we're going to change what we
do, but we're not going to tell everybody what it is. We're not
going to let the competition review it, which I think is
they're gonna get away with that.
Well, it looks like it'd be bullcrap. Yeah. It looks like
it.
Oh, there's these guys are idiots. You gotta Google by the
balls. I think you got to squeeze not just let him okay,
whatever.
Well, how you recall that Joe Keane is one of the guys who was
being tapped by the NSA. You got to think maybe they got a little
something on him. Hey, listen
to this call. Hi, honey. What do you do now?
Yeah, what are you wearing? Oh, can you touch yourself? Yeah,
that'd be great. Oh, you're cute. I'm so sorry. We need to
wrap this up.
You know, we have well, I'm not gonna go into too many stores. I
want to play this clip with the Central African Republic. So he
keeps his people people updated on all hell breaking loose in
Central Africa.
Does Herbert the international affairs editor joins me on set.
Welcome, Doug. Well, speaking of the Central African Republic, I
mean, about 50 vehicles around the town of Cebu, it's north of
the capital Bongi. And it's sending its 25,000 residents
fleeing for safety. It's turning out to be more difficult in
Central African Republic for French troops, then Mali. Yeah,
it's an entirely different ballgame to use a sporting
metaphor for the French Mali. Within a few days and weeks, the
French were able to rack up at least spin it as success in many
respects, having driven the Islamist back, at least into
their sort of readouts in the North Central African Republic
has been a humanitary and humanitarian and a security
disaster for the French on all fronts. You have 1600 French
troops, basically working alongside an overwhelmed African
peacekeeping force of 4600. The EU is going to be sending in its
own contingent of about 500 to 600, unclear which countries
will contribute what they're all in over their heads. We've had
basically a Christian majority militias called the anti balaka,
on the rampage in many, many areas against a much more much
smaller Muslim minority Muslims about 10 to 15% of the country.
It's been both sides, obviously responsible here for atrocities,
it's been kicked for tat killings. You've had this spiral
of sectarian violence and what you've had basically as the the
minority Muslim militias, the ones who had originally taken
power toppled the president, then president last year in
March, they've been pushed back. They have been basically
confined to barracks in the northwest, also around the
Capitol Bongi. But the problem is now they are watching
Muslims, they're sitting in their barracks, seeing Muslims
falling victim prey to these Christian militias. It is an
absolute bloody mess. No one really knows what to do. A lot
of the French soldiers are not even they're afraid to get out
of their tanks. They are seen as hostile, sometimes by all sides
not protecting one or the other. And there have been warnings,
very grim warnings that this thing could spy escalate into
all out genocide. It's not there yet, but the ethnic religious
undertones and overtones of this conflict are extremely scary,
and some say a microcosm of what could spill across the region if
they don't find a solution.
Yeah, this is very, very bad. And I'm just waiting for the UN
resolution to come in because the French aren't doing their
job.
They just French can't do the job. They don't know what
they're doing. If it was us, and I don't believe we have too
much. It's, I could be wrong. And I'm probably wrong. When I
say what I'm going to say, I don't think we have too much
involvement in this.
There's only one pipeline that goes through car to Cameroon,
and I get the sense that you know, it's just you know, if
there's anybody over there it's it's it's people like our
economic hitman who wouldn't be there, obviously. But but it's
just these groups, it wouldn't be the State Department No. So
So, which, by the way, also says that things can really get rub
alized without our help. So it's not like we need to be there to
make things worse,
but we are everywhere in Africa and in everything that comes out
of the Department of Defence is all pointing towards a future in
Africa once the realisation of the Middle East is complete. Of
course. We still need to work on that a little bit.
Yeah, well, we I think the Middle East is getting pretty
close to being completely realised. We'll see. But anyway,
well, then I have a report from from Belgium, Stan. And this is
going in Belgium, Stan,
well, not so good. Now this is we've played some of this guy
stuff before Dale heard from CBN. This is the Christian
Broadcast Network. So definitely skewed. However, my darling wife
Miss Mickey has lived in Brussels. I have lived near
Antwerp as she and she witnessed this in the 90s So imagine this
report which is not brand new. It says you know it's almost a
year old but I had not heard this report yet. It's it's
really pretty incredible when you hear what's happening in. In
Belgium Stan?
The graffiti says it all welcome to Belgium. Stan, by the way,
this guy's voice. I just need him to read from me all the
time. Welcome to Belgium. Stan. The graffiti says that all
Muslims
are still a minority in Belgium. But in the capital of Brussels.
They're already the largest religious group one quarter of
the city's population and are expected to be the majority in
less than 20 years. Another 2030 reference. The most
confrontational Muslim group here is Sharia for Belgium,
which use shouting and threats to shut down a debate by
moderate Muslims a few months ago. I sat down and talked to
the leader of Sharia for Belgium found Belkacem alias Abu Imran.
Sharia for Belgium is a small group that a lot of people don't
take seriously. But he sounded very serious when he told me
that he expects Muslims to rule Belgium and the world.
We believe that they should Yeah, I will dominate the shed
yet will be implemented worldwide
Sherea for Belgium is a public relations nightmare for those
Muslim groups which tried to play down their ties to radical
Islam and Sharia law. Imran was completely open with CBN News
saying Islam and Sharia law are inseparable. And democracy is
wrong.
Sharia is Islam to be clear. There is no difference between
Islam and Sharia. It just the name. Democracy is the opposite
of Islam of Sharia and Islam. We believe that Allah is the
legislator, Allah Who makes the laws. He's the one who tells us
what's allowed and what's forbidden.
I know some Muslims who think of themselves as Democrats, and
they say they're against Sharia. Are they real Muslims?
Yeah, that's really funny. When I hear someone saying, Yeah, I
was speaking to a democratic Muslim is the same thing as
saying I was speaking to a Christian Jew, or to a Jewish
Muslim or something like that. It's impossible.
Do you think that's true? John, do you think that that is the
there's a big group that believes that that is completely
impossible that the you cannot be a democratic Muslim that
Muslim you have to be?
Yeah, no, I think the litany that I've heard this before, I
think I think that I think some course of study would lead you
to that. Conclusion. Yeah, no problem.
You want to hear more. I mean, I find fascinating report.
How could you meet a Jewish Muslim or a Christian Jew and
the Muslim that says he's against Shetty out? He's not a
Muslim, it's impossible.
Like in many countries across Europe, a culture war over Islam
is well underway in Belgium. Last month, the Mosque of
Charlevoix was desecrated with the mask of a pig head and the
daughter of the head of Belgium's right wing party and
Sophie to winter, posed in a bikini and burqa with the words
in Dutch freedom or Islam. Someone painted over this poster
giving her a full burqa. They also painted over freedom and
Sophie to winter received death threats.
This is going to no good can come of this.
No, no, it's a couch. You know, people mock it. But I think it's
a with this group, not the moderate Muslims who are trying
to get out from under the these guys. By the way. There's nice
guys are just a bad group of people.
And I'm not getting tonnes of emails from moderate Muslims
saying, Wow, you're right on. I'm just not seeing it. So
please send me send me some info. I don't think
we have that many Muslims that listen to the show.
Why not? I think we certainly must have some.
Well, maybe you get some notes from some we did. We had a
couple of guys that were a little more active on the show.
Then they disappeared.
Let me just fast forward to the end of this report. Because what
the guy says there I think is kind of the the main point.
There will be a majority of Muslims here in Belgium. Even
the city of Antwerp. More than 40% of the children in the
schools are Muslims. So it's just a matter of time. No prob,
we don't we don't have any problem.
And Imran offered this advice to white native Belgians
if they want to if they want to push us back or something like
that. I don't know. Maybe they can start to marry for wives and
have a lot of children start with that. Maybe they will have
a chance but I don't think so.
There you go. Them's fightin words.
That wraps it up.
You need for Hey, by the way, I'm all for it for wives who had
a lot of children to work it
actually. Yeah, there's just four is that it for you can go
beyond I mean, four is what the current thinking is, but I think
they could go on to Yeah, that's what you need is like four
wives? Uh huh.
No, I thought I was thinking I had you more in mind. Quite
honestly, I thought.
Well, four wives, the way I do things is possible. There'll be
in different places. So I do want to forgot to give the jobs
karma. For our call outs. I'm so sorry. And I also want to I got
a note, by the way letter on one of the checks that came in from
Thomas Butterick, who's a sergeant in the Marines. And he
has a signature that is like, if this guy's not an artist, he
should be. I mean, it's just it's the best signature I've
ever seen on a note. It's like a blight it looks like a square
when it's old, done and finished. He wanted as short as
shout out to his brother Samuel, so I'm gonna give him that and
also add him to the job karma. Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote
for jobs. Karma. Karma.
Okay, I think I think we're done for today.
Unless you Yeah, they're all the other stuff is minor.
Unless you have something else. I think we've covered the main
bases. I guess what we'll be waiting for now is to see the
opening of the Sochi Games we're hoping to dog we're waiting for
a dog Dog
it'd be one of those little thing you can do what kind of a
dog we can use as we both agree there's going to be no What do
you think there's gonna be a small yappy dog that jumps a lot
like a mid sized dog like the poodle sized dog that then he's
going to be jumping a lot No I think it'd be more of a running
around like crazy and they're going to chase him and they
won't be able to catch him he's not gonna be one of those.
Oh, that's interesting. I was thinking more one of those
mongrels that you know the Shaggy and kind of like as like
a piece of crap look and Don's as beat has three legs. It's
like hopping around trying to make it and I was thinking one
of those but we'll have to see. Anyway, Newlands got her job cut
out for her she needs to get the robot dog in there.
That may save her job as a matter of fact that was out now
if she can pull that one off. Keep an eye on this. I think
this thing has got legs. i By the way, I agree with her.
F the EU Yeah.
Oh is of all the things that you know are going on. As far as I'm
concerned. She's right on the money. But this is not going to
fly with anybody. The chat room, I'm on her side with f the EU
the chat
room is suggesting a dingo instead of a dog.
But a wild kangaroo just bouncing around and never gets
that.
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