I do have a little entre mall, Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Sunday, January 19 2014 times you get my nation media
assassination episode five. This is no agenda, working as a non
shielding journalist from FEMA Region six of the travel site
tight on Austin, Texas in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, it's Bingo. Bingo. Yeah,
well,
he's supposed to say I'm John C Dvorak.
Now. Bingo. I've changed my name to bingo. Greg Lawton buzzkill
what is that? I was thinking about this this morning. Oh god.
Why Why would you have a network TV show MSNBC and have a guy
named hooray. His name
you want to be known as Bingo?
Bingo is a good name.
But then I want to like a Touray type name. I'll be Ringo it's
been going ring going on. I
know he can't have rhyming names. Being going ring go Why
are you bingo have Dingo come on the show ever trio?
You go. Okay. That's his name. His name is Touray isn't it?
Was you born? Okay, lady. Just the birth certificate? Is you
have a first name no last name? No, it's just Toray. No, that's
not possible. Right.
But that has to be that has to be his actual first name. I
think
they'd be his last name. Well, let's take a look would be named
what's kind of a first name is Toray. Tour A
tour a Neblett.
Neblett. And
E b l e TT? Neblett. Is that his name? Yes. Touray. Born to Ray
Neblett is an American writer, and television personality. And
he was born Where was he born? And he was born.
And he comes out of Neblett?
Well, I'm calling him Neblett. From now on, that's for sure.
Definitely. He's from Boston. It's a very Bostonian name.
Oh, well, that didn't realise that was actually some first
name that he has. So I can't guess bingo doesn't work. I just
had to be John. That's,
ya know. Wow, you really throw me for a loop. Once again,
unexpected.
Yeah. Well, you can start the show over, but I'm not gonna
start the show over. Absolutely. bingos. Good. Yeah. Today's show
on LEGO. Ah,
before we get underway, first I have to say I cheated a little
bit yesterday. Just a teeny,
weeny, weeny little. Go to the spinning class.
I went to the spinning class. No, that was Friday. Yesterday,
I spent most of the day prepping doing everything working really
hard. We had a late lunch didn't have dinner, because we were
invited to go to see Tony Bennett perform live here in
Austin. He's still alive at seven years old. He's and let me
tell you and he only he only does like an hour and 15
minutes, you know, so we were we were out of out the door at 930
with everybody else with their walkers and Zimmer frames. But a
friend of ours Eric Kapur and he had a balcony you know the whole
like a whole side of the balcony was champagne. It was completely
perfect.
And there you are in the champagne room. Yes.
And Tony Bennett and it's on this guy's unbelievable. Let's
hope so at the at the very end there is no he does like to
encores at the very end he does a What's the song fill my heart
with flying to the moon I think and he starts off the song
fill my heart. You got somehow you jumped from that to fly me
to the moon to the moon
and fill my heart with the song and then Anna led that Jupiter
Marja, it's flying to the moon. But after like he starts the
song off and then he puts the microphone down and sings the
rest of the song unamplified at seven years old and you're
sitting there like holy crap, this guy. Where is it coming
from? It was it was quite spectacular.
He has a level there.
Thanks, John. Buzzkill. And then I had some news for you, which I
think you'll enjoy. We we hosted so Mickey has a Ms. Miki has a
an art Expo coming up this 22nd of February here in Austin. So
that's really big deal and it's with another artist Peggy Weiss
and Peggy Weiss. She and her husband Ron ran probably one of
the most famous restaurants in Austin for 30 years called
Jeffries. And they just recently sold a majority stake they're in
their 60s and and so we had them over. And I somehow I got kind
of wrangled in Have you ever come over and you'll cook? Let
me tell you something. Cooking for famous restaurant tours is
intimidating. Yeah, I would say incredibly intimidating. So I
went for my standard, my surefire the one I know will
always work, which is the double dip depression slaves do. Oh
yeah, that will always work. And let me read to you an email I
got from Ron.
Oh your way. Hold on. Okay. Yeah. Okay. What? So you're
proud of yourself. And now you're gonna read your own.
Again, you've only done this a couple of times, but I called
you out every time what you're going to read fan mail.
It's actually fan mail for you. Oh,
okay. Go ahead.
So, you know, the niceness kind of niceties that another thanks
again, I was serious about the stew recipe. Virtually all stews
are boring, comforting, comforting but now all crap by
the way. Well listen, it's comforting but not unique. The
one you prepared from John's recipe was full of great
flavours that all matched up there you go. Your fan mail
douche.
Yeah, whatever I made stew about or, you know, every country has
their own name for Sue Sue is the American name or maybe
British. But you know the French have you know beef organ yawn
and the and the Belgians have the carbon nod. And everyone has
their own thing but a goulash you know in Hungary same they're
all students they just had to get different angles to it. And
so if you if you use all these different angles like carbon
Nazmi with beer for example, instead of wine Americans
typically may would use chicken broth and you can do different
things and you can get you can get some pretty nice flavours
out of those things and if you cook them long enough and the
meat falls apart the way it
should yeah, I had the perfect Chuck Yeah,
how long do you cook it?
It was it was pretty much there three and a half hours it was it
was really half nails it it was good to go but I got the chuck
that had it had some of the sinewy kind of fat in there.
Yeah and that run that then it really kind of falls apart just
perfectly not too much but it gets all stringy and it's really
it was good it was this is the best I've ever made it I have to
sound good
well you were under the under the gun
yeah I was very into and then of course to top it off i i served
Dame at least garlands lemon cello playing Oh, yeah, yeah, I
said oh, this is from one of our listeners.
would think that we are Oh, hold on, John
did is your is your automatic gain set or something? You just
went? You just went away? off the face of the earth? Yeah,
kind of. Just double check that for me.
Okay, now. Oh, thanks a mouse coordination. Am I so it is?
Yeah.
See, I knew it. Yeah. Just little things you got to do like
it will readjust me because
there you go. Yeah, talk a little bit. Hello. Let me read
from my list of clips.
No, that's okay. You're good to go. No, press
machine back my old windows seven white machine the big one
that was built for us by our night.
Oh, and this is the one that had the corrupt hard drive.
That's what I thought. Oh, so I dig in through and I have to
realise this guy. He's made a great machine. I got to I lost
track of him. I should have visited him I called him so what
it was and I turned the machine open to see what's going on
machine is beautiful inside. And it's running the boot disk is a
500 gigabyte SSD. Oh, gee, I didn't realise that should make
it really fast that's a makes it worth that I mean that when he
built a suit I think must have cost two grand so I'm I decided
I'm dicking around I gotta get an I can't believe the SSD was
blowed up so I hooked it to another machine and it was
showed up fine. Everything looks kosher. Yeah. So I started
looking around and I ended up looking at the BIOS and
apparently what had happened the only way I can figure this out
the SSD itself never showed up as a list of bootable drives
Okay, so there was a problem with the with the You mean in
the BIOS Yeah,
I must have been like a power surge something zapped the
machine and she screwed up the the BIOS Yeah, the BIOS. Yeah,
the BIOS got a hit on it. So I put it back in their boots right
fine. Everything's great. Yeah. turn out to be a big deal. I'm
it's just a matter of
you just given up too early, like after what? Okay, here's
John's computer won't boot up piece of shits about broken. I
need a new one.
Oh, me and everyone else. Not the kind of thing you'd normally
expect to happen.
And people who are relatively new to the programme, and I
think that we're getting new people every single day. It's
very difficult often for them to just jump right in and
understand how we work. But it is important to reiterate that
John and I rarely, but pretty much never communicate with each
other outside of the show itself. So I have no idea what
he's reading what he's listening to what he's watching. Reverse
is the same. Then on show days, we kind of show up and I got my
stuff that I'm thinking I want to talk about. And John has his
stuff. And I really don't we catch up. Yeah, it's literally
we're catching up. And I have no idea what he's going to come up
with clip wise, but I do I don't listen to I have no idea what
that what they contain. But I can read some of the some of the
titles. And then I'm very happy to see that somehow after six
years. We're now in our seventh year. I guess you kind of
thought, curry, I'll do the Obama speech. I did. I was I was
correct in assuming that.
It's funny because we both assume that the other guy's
going to do we want to be saying we usually are right. I don't
think it's ever been the case where we're both wrong. And we
never have the clips.
Now that has never happened. We've we've both had issues. And
we both had clips, but never
Jim yeah, sometimes then we have duelling clips. Yeah, my clip is
better than your clip.
So of course, I was particularly interested in in this 45 minute
speech by the President because on the previous programme on
Thursday, no, no, a week ago, we discovered the existence of
executive order one, two, triple three.
Although I believe we have discussed this in the past.
It's possible, but I didn't remember it. Yeah, I recalled
something about it. But it is an executive order signed by Ronald
Reagan. And there's been some interesting amendments to it.
And we're getting all kinds of response to this. In fact, that
was one that was was kind of kind of funny. Let me see if I
can just bring this up real quick. And this was one of these
encrypted emails. And how many just invoke the PGP and we go,
Adam kindly asked to remain anonymous. And the way it starts
off is one of these tips. Usually I stopped reading after
this opening line. I was surprised to learn that you had
never heard of executive order. Two triple three, considering
the in depth and often frightening me correct analysis
given on the show.
I have discussed it before.
What are you eating some?
Oh, I'm sorry. Is this Can you hear this? Yeah. Oh, I'm opening
up the new red book that is in a packet. Oh, good.
EO one triple three, however, is primarily for
counterintelligence and not for general intelligence collection
authority. This is new to me. It has been taken advantage of for
certain but how I never intended for exploitation of the American
people. It has been taken as a counterintelligence
professional, it is often necessary to collect information
of US citizens that could potentially provide information
to or be helpful. To the intelligence services this is
only to fully identify the person and to make a preliminary
assessment that they are not a spy already gets so this is to
wrap your mind around this. What this person is saying is that in
the counterintelligence business is necessary to spy on people
make sure they're up to no good so you can blackmail them into
becoming a spy, a counter spy for on our side, a double agent,
basically. And that's why II Oh, one, two, triple three is good.
Yeah, that's that was my response to nearly. Did you
think that just by encrypting your email, I'm going to fall
for this? I thought that was pretty cool. Anyway, so I'm very
interested what the President has to say. And just before his
speech, I started receiving the under embargo PDFs of his PPD is
presidential policy directive. And of course, along with that,
eventually came the fact sheet from the White House. And I will
read one, the only the only line that is important, really from
this SIG int, PPD, or signals intelligence, and it's a
footnote on page five. This you can you can now read
this@whitehouse.gov Of course, you can get it from the show
notes 584 dot no agenda notes.com. This directive is not
intended to alter the rules applicable to us persons in
executive order one two triple three, the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act or other applicable law. In other words,
everything I'm doing here does not apply to the real to the
real business. Which as we know from Executive Order, one two
triple three is pretty much if the CIA says you Yeah, it's
okay. Then and the attorney general signs off, then it's
good to go. And then subsequently, we found an
amended amendment with an opinion that the attorney
general is allowed under US law to delegate this authority to a
deputy attorney general, or anyone else who has been sworn
in to office or has gone through the Senate approval process. So
it's not just the attorney general who who can approve of
spying on American citizens by the CIA or the FBI. But anybody
but you know, any anyone he says is kind of rubber stamp it. So
pretty much everything the President said was meaningless.
That's basically the whole point, is meaningless from a
legal standpoint. And really, the section 215 Is, is yes,
metadata. Very important. It's kind of meaningless in the in
the broad scope of what's really going on. And so I thought,
well, maybe there's something else going on in the speech. And
and let me let me listen and see if I can find something. And I
think I did. I think I stumbled upon something that is quite
obvious. Now. It's not like a huge shocker, but it's like, oh,
okay, this makes sense. But first, just a few words from the
President to remember that anything he says, there's always
a reason for this. Nothing is left up to chance. These things
always come back around, by the way, what's with the six flags
on this on the podium? Have you seen this? If you look at the
President when they frame that,
they almost look like a photograph of a flag.
But when when you frame the shot, it's like he has angel
wings made out of American flags. You should Google the
picture of just Obama speech.
Yeah. Interesting observation. And this, but this is a
recurring theme. So he has six flags. He's right in between.
There's a subtle promotion for the amusement park.
Yeah. Which is not doing so. Well. Yes. Okay. Nice. But it
was weird. You know, I was like these things. I think they do
matter.
Well, yeah. No, that was Ray. I think it was Reagan that started
really pushing the use of the, you know, surrounded by flags.
Yeah. I think much later became Bush, who came up with the idea
of putting people behind you what love watching the back of
your head. Right? I don't know. Anyway, go on. But
the Six Flags, it's that they should have more do 12 flags.
It should have been 1000 flights. Ridiculous. And also
whenever someone uses the word Moreover, in your speech, wow.
That's not even good writing in general is well that's
the that is I one of the I can't remember what it's a correction
for, but that's one of the auto corrections, or suggested
corrections in Microsoft Word.
Moreover. Yeah, I
think so. I think I've seen it. Use this.
It's a correction. For what word though?
I can't remember it. But I
That's funny. That's funny. So the speech right? It's like, oh,
and moreover, I fuck it. Let's put that in. All right, good.
Yeah, no, I'm convinced. And it's
and he said, maybe two or three times Moreover, who uses that in
regular speech? And well, there was just
Microsoft Word.
What does it even mean? Moreover,
what it's like so. Okay, all right. Good substitute word so
so um,
moreover, all right. So here's here's the President with just
some some interesting things I picked up along the way that I
found to be interesting, the horror of it. First of all,
whenever someone says horror and horror, kitchen war, he says, he
wants to say the horror. But he says the horror, the horror.
games make that an evergreen. Just drop it in every so often
the horror.
I heard this, dude. And when this seat
before you before you go on, can I say something interesting.
Please, it was about time.
The beginning of the speech this will resonate in its clip it
because I was annoyed at the beginning of the of the speech
where it talks about Paul Revere, and he talks about the
the Civil War.
We're patriots, and that's why we can spy on you.
He is saying that. He says it's a it's a trick. What he's really
saying is to boil it down is there's a tradition of the
American spying on their enemies. Yes. And then he then
he says that that's why we're spying on the American public.
Essentially, he's saying and we've said this before, and I've
written an article about it. He is saying and we this is the
kind of a theme under underlying the Snowden revelations. Yeah.
They perceive and then Obama himself perceives the American
public as the enemy. Yeah, yes, exactly. And that's what he says
when he says, oh, Paul Revere, come on.
There was a I have it in the show notes. Let me see. It was
it was This forum it was really was a weird Missy who did this
article it might have been yeah Giga ohm who wrote it a giga,
which I found with David Meyer. He wrote a very funny piece,
which he calls the Obama reimagined. And so basically the
speeches Paul Revere was a spy and a patriot. We used to spy
from balloons. We spied a lot in World War Two, which was good
and also in the Cold War, but not like the East Germans. We
spied on our activists, which was bad, we won the Cold War,
then 911 happened and we had to start spying on everyone. Our
spies work hard and are good at networking. I was against
warrantless wiretap when Bush was president, the worst
excesses happened under Bush were really good at spying
seriously, better than anyone else. And it goes on and on.
It's a good piece. And that's exactly what he was saying,
essentially. Yeah. But there were some other little messaging
in there that I think I think I caught so again, let's get let's
get past the horror part.
The horror of September 11, brought all these issues to the
fore,
to the fore, to the fore. I just heard that for the first time. A
to the floor on the floor. What is he saying invited all to the
fore? Does he think maybe he's He really thinks he's Abraham
Lincoln. And he has to talk like it's 1790 or something or the
horse or
brought it the horse is a woman involved. She brought it to the
before.
Maybe it's he's rapping and Ryman the horse,
brought it to the fore of September 11 brought all these
issues to the fore now made Iran across the political spectrum
that Americans recognise that we had to adapt to a world in which
a bomb could be built in a basement.
Now, how in the world do you get from September 11, to everyone
being all in an understanding that a bomb can be built in a
basement? It's completely unrelated. I think that what we
learned if, if you believe in September 11, as the commission
reported it, that a moving flying object can easily be
turned into a bomb. That was what we learned nothing. It was
a spaceman. Well, it gets better.
And our electric grid could be shut down by operators an ocean
away
that this has not happened. When did
that happen? It's never happened. Something is falling
behind.
Apparently, we missed some things that happened on
September 11. People were building bombs and basements and
they were shutting down grids from another country. This is
the kind of propaganda that really worries me. This is not
this is these are blys. But he's connecting it but he's
connecting it. You are now into your brain has connected
building bombs and basements and cyber hackers from foreign three
B's building. Yes, building bombs comes back in the show
later, by the way, the three B's building bombs and basements and
bringing down the entire grid from a from overseas. Let me
just hear that again. Because this is this. I find this to be
outrageous that anyone you miss uses what happened on 911 to
propagandise these untruths, but they
were always good slamming bush for doing
thank you that we had to adapt to a world in which a bomb could
be built in a basement.
And our election electric should have said a bomb could be built
in a basement in Boston. Now that would have been good.
Because then it would have would have had more alliteration have
been nice. A bomb
could be built in a basement in Boston,
a bomb could be built in a basement in Boston, and our
electric grid could be shut down by operators an ocean away. This
an ocean away, China.
We were shaken by the science we had missed leading up to the
attacks. How the hijackers has made phone calls to non
extremists and travelled to suspicious places
or suspicious places.
San Diego, we Florida
demanded that our intelligence community improve its
capabilities and that law enforcement change practices to
focus more on preventing attacks before they happen than
prosecuting terrorists after an attack. Okay,
so let me understand what the President is saying. Apparently
before 911 our intelligence services all they did was wait
for something to happen and then figure it out later and
prosecute them. They were not at all thinking about preventing
attacks. Is that what the President just told me? The
stupid Bush guys I can't believe they were so dumb. To never have
the foresight of the horror that could occur to prevent
something. That whole piece of speech I'm sorry, shameful. Now
there was something that's I got a tweet and someone alerted me
to this and I and I'm asking when I don't think the chat room
can help. I don't think you can help John. But maybe people
listening to the podcast You will be able to hear that during
most of his speech there was classical music playing. Did you
catch this? No, I did not. And I know this piece. I know this
classical. It's a violin concerto. But there's not enough
of it because he leaves these long pauses. That's when you
hear that due to, I'll try and I never
I never noticed this
if you turn it around. So I've been I've zoomed in enhanced and
rotated the sound and chopped out the President's bits. So you
can hear the little pieces. And it's going to be horrible over
Skype. So you may not be able to participate. But I tried to
sound hounded I tried Shazam. But it's just not enough and not
enough. You there's too much. The Signal to Noise is all off.
So neither of those programmes could figure it out. Then I
tried whistling it into sound how they couldn't figure it out.
I just want to know what it is, you know, because I find it very
interesting to this classical music in the background. Let's
listen.
Bouncing you're gonna hear this at all. Okay, now, I can hear a
little bit though. It sounds like Some Enchanted Evening.
Who Some Enchanted Evening? Yeah. How does that go?
Some Enchanted Evening, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah.
It's a real classical piece we've made maybe someone else
can help us? Well, I
think it was, I think Some Enchanted Evening was based on
some classical peace. I don't know. I never noticed that. I
just have to say maybe there's a band playing outside. There was
a party going on?
Could have been. But But I but it was audible. And so I'm like,
wow, you know, anyway, maybe someone can help us with that.
Okay, now on to some phrases that are being brought into the
lexicon that are meant to, I believe just have your brain
switch off and go okay, of course, these two words one is
super computer. Because you know, that is a technical term.
As you know, John, when you've got a supercomputer, all bets
are off. Yeah, well, I've got one. Yeah. Yeah. With it with a
500 gigabyte SSD SSHD, whatever you want to call it and the
other is bulk. And what bulk? Bulk? Yeah, this is a new term
bulk.
Do you mean like how spinning bulks up your thighs?
Yeah, or bulky items pick up on Thursday. Now bulk his bulk?
Yeah. What is? What is the definition of bulk?
Bulk? Bulk? What the definition means bulk bigger.
No, I don't think it I think it means some bulk bulk, big, big
mass as well interesting. It can also mean great size or of great
importance. Treat a product so that its quantity appears
greater than it in fact is okay. So there's all kinds of ways to
interpret the term bulk. All right. But in conjunction with
super computer, I mean, obviously,
combination of increased digital information and powerful
supercomputers.
powerful supercomputers,
offers intelligence agencies the possibility of sifting through
massive amounts of bulk data to identify patterns or pursue
leads that may fort impending threats.
There you go this so there it is, in a nutshell,
it says May
May Oh, yeah. The possibility to K possibility. Yeah. So he
actually has a huge performative here. And that's kind of what
you're talking about. And we were always on the lookout for
performative or when the President will say something
that really doesn't mean anything. And wow, he really
threw out a doozy and this one, to the contrary, right there to
the contrary of what
in an extraordinarily difficult job.
To the contrary, I'm just gonna throw that in
you just me you can do it anytime you want.
To the contrary, my friend to the contrary to the contrary, I
feel
the 40 Niners are a great team,
one in which actions are second guessed, success is unreported.
And failure can be catastrophic.
That sounds like our podcast, actually, I think. Just listen
to that again, that sounds exactly like us. To the
contrary,
difficult job, this podcast one in which actions are second
guessed, yes, the
podcast is second discs, by
the way is an interesting meme he's bringing up because this is
a meme that's been developed by television shows.
Yes, because they're the unsung heroes of the world. They save
the world without getting any
recognition. Every tip from every show from NCIS to the
oldest show used to be called the agency or something and then
and the new show the agents of shield which is very pro
government for some reason. Which Which is weird,
considering Josh Joss Whedon did it Yeah, but anyway, there's
this constant you're doing it for the you know, you're never
going didn't get any credit in the movie The movie with Al
Pacino you're never gonna get any credit for anything you do
and you're gonna It's a thankless job and that's right
but if you fail you'll you'll be you know get credit for that
kind of thing
and I will say that coming from an environment of intelligence
in my family there is a some there's some truth to that yeah,
and and so I'm not I'm just laughing at how he's saying it
but and so yes lots of people do a lot some people get shot up
for dumb for dumb wars. No other people do all that everyone
everyone's can be heroic in their own
guys laying Ethernet cable around the Iraq comm pie your
rock count. pawns are not getting any credit. No, there's
a lot of people that don't there's people that work for a
living the bus driver, no credit shoot down the street doesn't
get a bunch of credit, but if he molest a passenger, it gets in
trouble and Chris bull crap. This is the way it is
everywhere.
Yes, thank you that I guess that's the point I'm trying to
make. This
is unreported, and failure can be catastrophic. The men and
women of the intelligence community, including the NSA,
consistently follow protocols designed to protect the privacy
of ordinary people,
your comms
they're not abusing authorities in order to listen to your
private phone calls or read your emails now.
They not so let's listen to the president said they're not
abusing it. They may be doing it they're just not abusing it.
And that is a lie in itself. We've already known from earlier
testimony before Congress that at least two people will be
caught spying on their girlfriends Exactly. Which by
the way has seemed a bit lost in the in that conversation. Nobody
even brings it up in tears.
Well, I think I'm going to prove today that a lot of this was all
set up and scripted whether the President was even in the know
is secondary because we know he's not writing the speeches
moreover to the four from the whore so he No he's not writing
it but maybe somewhat this is this actually this speech and
what we're going to get to in a minute for the first time, and I
rolled this theory out him is making she hit She immediately
grok to it. She's like she why grokked
Grace she What? Is she okay, does she does she need
hospitalisation?
Funny enough, she might. And this was one of the first time
does that
mean, by the way? grok. Yeah, what word is that? You've given
him crap about using Moreover, and you're using grok? Yeah,
have been a bit as I came up with it myself. It wasn't on my
teleprompter.
Okay, if you want to use that word, go ahead, you will surely
understand.
Well, this is a word coined by Robert A. Heinlein for his 1961
science fiction novel Stranger in a Strange Land. Yeah. And the
term means to understand
why don't Is it a more simple word that everyone knows the
meaning of understand used in this context?
I don't know. Bingo. Why don't you tell me more? I'm just
saying it's one of those words that comes out people use it.
I've always been befuddled by
it, abusing authorities in order to listen to your private phone
calls or read your emails.
That's just that is such a telling statement. They're not
abusing it. They're doing it. They're just not abusing it,
because it's completely legal. That's why it's no problem.
When mistakes are made, which is inevitable in any large and
complicated human enterprise, they correct those mistakes.
Okay? They don't
know. They don't correct them. And you can't correct the
mistake of spying. You correct the mistake and you can admit
it. You just
listened in on your girlfriend's conversation. Oh, you're gonna
stop listening? Yeah, that's you stopped listening. But you
didn't correct anything. You still had listened? You can't
undo it. labouring in obscurity, often unable to discuss their
work even with family and friends.
Yeah, well, we know this. So what I told you when the 16 year
old niece of mine says, I can't tell you what we're doing in
Japan. You don't have clearance.
Yeah. I don't even want to use the word. But I was gonna say
no, you don't say it.
The men and women, the NSA know that if another 911 or massive
cyber attack occurs
Now hold on a second. When When was the massive cyber attack?
Did he say another? Well, he
so again, very tricky. Whenever another 911 or massive cyber
attack happens.
The men and women of the NSA know that if another 911 or
massive cyber attack occurs.
That's that's a good one. I think that's a 10 pointer. Now
makes it sound as though it did tell Bend?
Well, and I immediately am thinking, why are we not
standing up and saying, hey, it looks like we were attacked by
Oh, I'm sorry, the messaging now is the Russians because it was
Russian, the code was commented in Russian that attacked target,
and Neiman Marcus and countless others we are yet to understand
about, is that not exactly what they're supposed to be stopping?
Is that not a massive cyber attack?
That's a massive cyber attack.
I think it's massive. They stole money, which, by the way, I
don't think, you know, here's it will get to the target thing in
a minute, I had a mind fart about, let's continue, Obama
will be asked by Congress in the media, why they failed to
connect the dots. What sustains those who work at NSA, and other
intelligence agencies through all these pressures, is the
knowledge that their professionalism and dedication
play a central role in the defence of our nation. Okay.
Now, this is where all of a sudden I went, Oh, hold on a
minute. Something fishy going on here. And I did some
investigative journalism for you. Moreover, there he is.
Moreover, once you read, you read a document. This is
investigative journalism. I did more than that, John. But first,
let's Moreover, let's listen to Red Rover Red Rover.
Moreover, after an extended review of our use of drones in
the fight against terrorist networks, I believed a fresh
examination of our surveillance programmes was a necessary next
step in our effort to get off the open ended war footing that
we've maintained since 911. And for these reasons, I indicated
in a speech at the National Defence University last May,
that we needed a more robust public discussion about the
balance between security and liberty. Now. No,
I heard something new here. Did you hear that? What was new?
We need a more balanced discussion of the B of the
security versus Liberty debate.
Well, I have never heard the President say security versus
liberty. I have heard him say security or privacy versus
freedoms and liberties that we hold but not liberty. And I
there's I think there's a big distinction
between a limb I'm all ears go on. Okay. So
if you're not if, if you have no liberty, you're in jail. Or your
or whatever. It could be a physical jail, or I've never
heard him say, Liberty. So when he claimed and this is the
speech, the one he's referring to in May, is the speech where
the Code Pink Lady interrupted,
it would be normally security versus privacy.
And let's just listen again, what he's saying. He's saying
something different here. That liberty, sorry, backup just
another.
They're not even don't know, these guys don't just want to
take our or eliminate privacy. They want to take our liberty.
Well, that's what this is why I caught this, I listened again,
about the balance between security and liberty, security
and liberty. So not security and privacy, not privacy and
freedoms, security, and liberty. And these two things are the
same, the different sides of the same coin. Now you can be kept
secure, in house arrest it anyway. And I'm like, Whoa, hold
on a second. I'm gonna go back and listen to that speech. But
let's listen to the next line. He says. So he's saying the
speech I did the one where the Code Pink Lady interrupted and
was about the drone usage. And he says, that's when I went,
when I started this, all I Barack Hussein Obama, I said, we
got to have a conversation about security and liberty.
Of course, what I did not know at the time is that within weeks
of my speech, an avalanche of unauthorised disclosures would
spark controversies at home and abroad that have continued to
this day
because indeed, not more than four or five weeks after this
speech, where the President said, apparently something about
a balance between security and liberty, Edward Snowden released
his documents coincidence. Let's go back to May 23. And listen to
what the President actually said,
affording homegrown plots presents particular challenges
in part because of our proud commitment to civil liberties
for all who call America home. That's why in the years to come,
we will have to keep working hard to strike the appropriate
balance between our need for security and preserving those
freedoms that make us who we are
very different from private from Uh, Liberty liberty. Yeah, very,
very
different freedoms.
So I, when I heard that
he's again, lying to the public, just outrageously, But
wait,
there's more
I so I was recording this. And remember now he Snowden has not
happened. At this point in the speech, there has been no huge
whistleblower controversy, no grand Greenwald, nothing of the
sort nothing.
This is the original speech.
This is the original speech, where he did not say, liberty,
he said the freedoms that we all think are so important is
completely different from Liberty. And I can't just let it
play.
That means reviewing the authorities of law enforcement,
so we can intercept new types of communication, but also building
privacy protections to prevent abuse. That means that even
after Boston, we do not deport someone or throw somebody in
prison in the absence of evidence. That means putting
careful constraints on the tools the government uses to protect
sensitive information, such as the state secret snuck in. And
that means finally having a strong Privacy and Civil
Liberties Board to review those issues where our
counterterrorism efforts and our values may come into tension.
Now, the Justice Department's investigation of national
security leaks, offers a recent example of the challenges
involved in striking the right balance between our security and
our open society. As Commander in Chief, I believe we must keep
information secret that protects our operations and our people in
the field. To do so we must enforce consequences for those
who break the law
consequences for those who break the law. Remember, Snowden has
not happened yet, at this point, at least not in the public eye
and breach their commitment to protect classified information.
But a free press is also essential for our democracy.
That's who we are. And I'm troubled by the possibility that
leak investigations may chill, the investigative journalism
that holds government accountable,
very interesting. This somehow is exactly the debate that is
taking place. And because
well, that's why
I'm setting you up.
journalists should not be at legal risk for doing their jobs.
Our focus must be on those who break the law. And that's why
I've called on Congress to pass a media shield law to guard
against government overreach. And I've raised these issues
with the Attorney General who shares my concerns. So he's
agreed to review existing department of justice guidelines
governing investigations that involve reporters.
Okay. Now, two things happened in the past week that I believe
so solidify, a theory that I'm kind of feeling here. That a lot
of a lot of things, at least the timing of things had been said
they may have known about this. But we know for sure, when the
President hates the internet press hates anything alternative
wants complete control of the mainstream. Hello, Rachel
Maddow, I'm looking at you. All of this stuff is is well known.
So the final thing that we need is our media shield law, which
we discussed at this time. And of course, I put the links in
the show notes once again, where we had the amendment to the
media shield law, which is appropriately titled, something
like the free flow of information act from Senator
Dianne Feinstein says, Oh, you have to have at least worked for
an official news gathering organisation for five years and
all these bull crap that's licenced and yes, licencing.
Exactly. Now, listen, what happened just in the past weeks
and
other world news, Edward Snowden, the NSA contractor who
took a treasure trove of the agency's secrets and link them
to the world. He isn't a journalist Oh is a journalists
dream source which is why today and news we're breaking right
now on the lead the freedom of the press foundation is
announcing that Snowden is joining its board of directors
Daniel Ellsberg is a co founder of the freedom of the press
foundation. You will of course remember him as the former US
military analyst who gave the infamous Pentagon Papers
and listen very closely closely with with Jake Tapper, of
course, you know, he's part of the establishment. He is now
defining the line that the President laid out very
carefully in May, between people who break the law and leak
sensitive classified information violating the state's Secrets
Act and good journalist, the approved journalist journalists
who are actually journalist, not just someone who's not a
journalist
to the New York Times back in 1971. Mr. Ellsberg thanks so
much for being here. Why has As the organisation decided to add
Snowden to the Board of Directors, even though he's not
actually a journalist
now, and of course Ellsberg goes in, and I believe, what's that
Ellsberg is probably non complicit in this. He really is
like, Hey, I'm not a journalist either. But you know, the whole
concept of having journalists and leakers go hand in hand, you
need both of these things in order for it to happen. But the
mainstream is making this very, very clear distinction, best
portrayed by I guess it was Friday night's interview of
Glenn Greenwald. On the Bill Maher show, Bill Maher, who is a
known operative of the Democratic Party gave a thought
a million dollars to President Obama's reelection campaign a
million dollars. I think that that for a minute, I think that
makes him a compromised asset. So when you give a million
dollars you can get, you can certainly get an ambassadorship.
There's a lot of things you can get you gave it to a Super PAC,
but it's irrelevant, but it was he made it very clear this is to
help get President Obama reelected, and he wasn't keeping
it quiet now. So you could think that maybe someone would put a
call out and said, Here's what we're gonna do. You get this
Greenwald on and you're going to make your jokes. But the point
is, we want to discredit anybody else. Certainly anyone on the
internet is not a journalist. I
understand that. I just think there is something to be said
for. Well, if it's all open, why don't we get to choose who
decides now I think I
said here is what what Bill Maher is bringing up he's
saying, Who decides what is to be published from this from
these documents, illegally given to you by the crazy Kook, Edward
Snowden. And you'll hear exactly what Bill Maher is doing.
If we were going to decide you're actually would be a
pretty good guy to decide. Because I respect you when I
liked it. I think
you're very smart. So apparently, Bill Maher can
decide who can be a reporter.
But what if it was Perez Hilton? Oh, oh,
very funny. But the point is crazy guy on the internet with a
big audience. Not a valid journalist who says Perez Hilton
is not a journalist,
just because I would testify in court that he is of course he
is.
And he's it's not my my not a topic of interest to me. But
he's most definitely a journalist. But here you see,
he's ridiculed and the audience's
audience. We don't know how much that's cranked up either, but go
on. And Bill
Maher is gonna take it even a little bit further, because of
course, you have to make everyone on the internet sound
like a crazy conspiracy theorist. Crazy.
Okay. Let me let me let me just ask you this. I mean, I also
respect Edward Snowden. Obviously, this debate wouldn't
be happening without Edward Snowden. But I was wondering if
you would agree with me that every time he opens his mouth,
he also says something completely nuts. He reminds me a
lot of Ron Paul, I agree with what he says I nod along. And
then he says something totally batshit. This is
essentially saying anyone who believes, or the message of Ron
Paul, or the his so called message of liberty, and you're
on the internet, you're batshit crazy, which is a favourite of
progressive that
she likes to use. And yeah, let me mention something else in
this little thing he's doing. He does the thing, which I brought
up before I dislike it when I hear it because I know it's a
salesman's technique. Adam, would you agree? Yeah, exactly.
Adam, would you agree that he used would you agree?
Would you agree these shoes look great on her?
Would you agree?
Yeah. No, it's because he is on board with the programme. And I
think that this this speech, what is happening right now, we
may have the way people look at Section 215. Like oh, this huge,
oh, this metadata is bullcrap. Whatever the real meat and
potatoes is, has been going on since way before 911. Executive
Order 12333. And that and all information, including content
is, is is being collected and stored and parsed through and
it's all completely legal within the system that is not being
discussed. So here's this little play that is being rolled out.
And President Obama, what he says these people who write this
for him are smart, okay, they're smart. And now we see that he's
he has a call back to his speech, where he, the visionary
brought up this balance between real journalists and those who
leak secrets. And we need to have real journalists, as you
say, correctly, John licenced, and this and this is probably
what's bothering me about Glenn Greenwald. He's got he's got to
be on board with some team some programmes somehow. Otherwise,
none of this would happen. He's been being set as the shining
example. And not only is he being protected, he's being
financed by pure a mini mini Comey car. And let me just just
listen to the rest of this Bill Maher thing because it's so
obvious now to me.
I mean, Edward, let me give you some quotes cyber. Go ahead. All
right, go ahead.
Go ahead. But, you know, you go ahead, please after you go
ahead. No, no, no. Go ahead,
please. All right, go ahead.
He said these programmes were never about terrorism. They were
about social control and diplomatic manipulation. Well,
that's crazy. They were about stopping terrorism. They may
have gone too far. But if crazy, everybody in the government
isn't out to get you,
oh, boy, everybody in the government isn't out to get you.
In other words, if you have any other thoughts than that this is
about terrorism. You're a conspiracy theorist, obviously,
a nut job on the internet. Who loves Ron Paul, who was batshit
crazy.
He said they can use this system to go back in time and
scrutinise every decision you've ever made. Every friend you've
ever discussed something with? This is nuts right now.
And I'm pretty sure that Glenn Greenwald is. He's He's so
narcissistic. He's just being played. I don't think he
actually knows
I agree with you. 100%. On what you're saying now? Yeah. Yeah,
he's being played. Right. played played? Yeah, he's on the TV.
No, Bill, what's not just the fact that you think that's nuts.
And let me just explain why. A lot of the stories that we've
reported have nothing to do with terrorism. They're spying on
economic summits in Latin America, oil companies in
Brazil, democratically elected leaders of our closest allies
who have nothing to do with terrorism. His point is that of
course, some of this is directed at terrorism. But this massive
system that has been built a huge bulk of it has nothing to
do with national security. It has to do with the reason that
people in political power always want to surveil their
populations is because it does give greater power. And as far
as slowing down the internet that comes right from documents
that we published, where the NSA collects everything, and then
stores it for a long enough time to, in their words, slow down
the internet, so that they can go back at any time and see your
entire history where you browse, what kind of search terms you've
entered with whom you've been speaking. I mean, look, he's a
29 year old who's not a trained politician. He doesn't have AIDS
whispering in his ear, what he should say he's not adept at
that. That's what makes him so impressive. But he's
not a journalist. Clearly he hasn't. Greenwald is falling
right into the trap here. Of course, he's a 29 year old
schmuck. He doesn't know anything. He's got no one
whispering in his ear didn't have anything. He's not a
politician. He's not a journalist. That's I'm the dirt
I'm a journalist. I'm a journalist, how much I'm going
to be licenced, licenced and paid for is an
act of conscience, that he just stepped forward as an ordinary
person. And I'm not and did this.
No one. No one is. No one is arguing with that. Glenn. What I
said is
listen to Bill, talk over the applause to shut it down. Every
time
he opens his mouth. He always says something fucking nuts. And
when he says fucking nuts
there you go, Bill. That's right. Because that's what we
are on the internet. We're all just fucking nuts. Ron Paul
crazy. batshit crazy. Kooky a government's out to get me
people. Every
friend they know.
Anyway. Yeah, that is a great catch of him stepping on the
audience because he was never going to give an evergreen
rolled around of applause.
No, no friend you've ever discussed something with we'll
just have to agree to disagree on what's fucking nuts. Okay.
We'll agree, Bill when the legislation licencing is in
place. That's when we'll agree what's fucking nuts or what's
journalists?
Okay, one final question. What would happen if you came home
now?
Well, this, of course, is a great question.
It's a good question. It's one that we've been trying to find
out the answer to, and the government doesn't seem to want
to share with us their thoughts on that question. There's
obviously been a lot of leading media and political figures who
have advocated that what I've done is criminal. What other
journalists have done is criminal. He's so
making the point for everybody. Glenn Greenwald, don't you see,
you are now actually setting it up. You're going to get an
approved stamp as a journalist to travel freely, everyone else
will be shut down. You, my friend are single handedly
ruining open journalism. You are anti constitutional. The British
government, the servant of the United States government is
claiming that what we've done is terrorism. There's criminal
investigations pending. So I'm not gonna go ahead and roll the
dice. We're trying to find out as much as we can. And at the
moment, wait, wait,
wait for Bill's final word.
I mean, the US government is not too talkative on on those
questions.
All right. Well, you can stay in my guest house if you're not.
That's great. That's right, because there's gonna be a lot
of people in your guest house. Alright, so that is what I think
and of course, I looked it up it Here's that the free flow of
information act is number 203. On the congressional calendar,
it was put there end of November. I'm pretty sure this
is going to come up for a vote with the amendments by Dianne
Feinstein to determine who is a journalist and therefore who can
legally look at things. And we just think about Grindr hang on
for a second with all the technologies we know that are
available, I mean, I'd like to know does he receive encrypted
messages from Snowden then put them on some kind of secure USB
device then take him to a non networked computer to decrypt
them that is in a Faraday cage you know so that no one can see
whatever he's doing? Are you telling me our our our great
massive intelligence has no idea what documents are there because
they can't there's no way they can get into Glenn Greenwald's
systems seriously. You can't people you can't believe on one
hand that they can turn on your iPhone remotely and and get your
screen captures through magical radio waves, which I'm all in
unbelieving and then think that they don't know what Glenn
Greenwald has. Okay. So in because he's in Brazil, that's
like some magical barrier that we can send agents of Brazil,
Brazil, Brazil, to fund
assets in Brazil,
to not kind of hop on the heels of what what was discussed here.
What was this? So this was the show this all led this crazy
speech of Obama's which was a useless piece of crap. And what
I can tell ya is leading led you to the our old thought that
they're going to licence journalists is that you made
that
you drove that car through that road. That's my conclusion. Yes.
And that's what Miki quote unquote, grokked immediately.
Well, we've talked about it before. It's not that this new
No, but
but they're the ones that made the call back to the speech and
the speech. That's before Snowden. before Snowden was
known
to Okay, I just thought it would you I think you leaked here and
there somewhere. I don't know how but no, not very convincing
a good
couple of amendments to executive order 12333 that are
of interest, August 27 2004. Executive Order 13355. I love
all the magic numbers in these executive orders. I think we do
have to point that out. Just for a second. It's just a lot of
that going on here. It's it could all be quickly, complete
coincidence, but
it needs to be more maddening. Yeah.
So this one is to strengthen the the authority of the Director of
Central Intelligence. And for the Director of National
Intelligence to act as the Principal Advisor to the
President for intelligence matters related to national
security to ensure that the National Foreign Intelligence
programme which we have not heard about the NFIP, have you
heard of this anywhere in the in recent days? Actually,
I have. I would think we even mentioned it once and never did
much with her information
so that the NFIP is structured adequately to achieve these
requirements. And to ensure that the United States intelligence
collection activities are integrated into collecting
against enduring and emerging national security intelligence
issues, to really integrating the full blown full content, not
just metadata, collection of your communications and
subsection one, DOD six A, the heads of all departments and
agencies shall unless the director provides otherwise give
the director access to all foreign intelligence,
counterintelligence and national intelligence as defined in the
act. So there's your complete aggregation of all of this
information,
then we do many layers. This is hurting the country.
Then on we have executive order 13470 July 30 2008. And this,
the United States intelligence effort shall provide the
President the National Security Council and the Homeland
Security Council with the necessary information to which
the base decisions concerning development conduct foreign
defence economic policies. So it says right here in order to help
the President shape economic policies, the need to give the
spying information to the President for economic policies,
okay, economic not terrorism. Here's a list the top three
things intelligence collection under this order. And again,
this is back to one two, triple three should be guided by the
need for information to respond to intelligence priorities set
by the President. So there's three priorities. Number three,
that's the bottom priority threats to the United States and
its interests from the development possession,
proliferation or use of weapons of mass destruction. Number two,
so not the top but number two threats to the United States and
its interests from terrorism. And number one, espionage. So
don't lie to me. This is about espionage spying on other
countries for political and economic policies. That's your
number one priority according to the executive order that the
President has signed on to. And he hasn't changed it. To let's
not pussyfoot around, and let's just be honest. And I'm okay
with that. Because we're America. And we spy on people
and we kick their ass and we own you, Mitch. And that's okay, but
just say it. Don't give me this this terrorism. And let's not
get any smart people in here who can figure it out? We need to
this show is doomed. We're doomed. Fucking doom. John
would die can get a licence?
How about me? I can't get a licence.
Okay, just, I'll just up my sidekick.
Push it. I can do colour.
I can do colour commentary.
I'll just go like here. Do some analysis, John. And I'll and
I'll play my part.
Well, the way I see it. You're so funny. The President's got it
backwards. You
are the best John C. Dvorak.
Ah, I can live with that. Yeah,
I bet you could. Alright, let me wrap this up with two clips.
Feinstein and Rogers. Oh, we're on. This is fantastic. This I'm
in fact, I'm going to line this up just in i think i think i
think i might get a clip of the day. Feinstein and Rogers were
both on
what are you pre selling it as a clip of the day, you know, every
you know, every time I try that on you, you reject you go out of
your way to reject.
I'm okay, I'm dumping the clip. It's not going to happen. They
will not be clipped to the day. So Senator Dianne Feinstein and
Mike Rogers, who's not a senator, as he's a Congressman,
I keep forgetting. Well, they're both.
She's the head of the Senate. He's the head of the
congressional biologists group operation.
So these are the two people who represent the people of the
citizens of the United States of Gitmo nation. represent us in
oversight of oh crap John
holds to keep these agencies from running wild. Yeah,
exactly. Well, my mind but they've done none of them.
They've done none of the above. They're actually encouraging it.
Yes. And then people really should be rebuked.
I think when you hear what they're about to say, rebuked is
very moderate, very mild. Here's Feinstein. Remember, this is the
person who knows everything knows all about everything
that's going on and oversees all of these programmes for you if
you're an American citizen,
and you know, I think a lot of the privacy people
hold on a second the privacy people Oh, John, who are the
privacy people you know what the privacy people are completely
batshit crazy. Yes. batshit crazy complaining whining
internet Ron Paul loving nut job fucking crazy people that
privacy people. Dianne Feinstein, I wish you I wish you
very bad things.
And you know, I think a lot of the privacy people perhaps don't
understand that. We still occupy the role of the great Satan.
Okay, let me just get this straight. That we are the great
Satan in the world. Then all other religious groups think
that we are Lucifer and we are the great Satan. And that's what
the privacy people okay because that's how she thinks about us.
If fucking privacy people you pee on privacy people, what do
you think you are?
New bombs are being devised
new bombs. New moms are being divided bombs in basements in
Boston. Let's
drop the other two bombs. They
worked okay. New bombs. New bombs sounds scarier because you
know new bombs have new ways of exploding new it's new from the
Bisco you're trying to get Feinstein's crazy shit out. More
Satan. New bombs are being devised. New New terrorists are
emerging
new terrorists are emerging as a new terrorists born every day a
new kind of terrorist, new John new new from Mattel new
terrorists new fresh good looking,
you're the one now interrupting her I have
to because this is how people this is how you sell something
to the American public. You take the same crap, put it in the box
with a shiny label and put new on it and people buy it.
It'd be new and improved. That would be better new groups,
new groups that bring an ABA back did you hear about it
actually? Coming back. I was coming back new and improved
with bombs and groups and terrorist
groups. Actually a new level of viciousness, a new level
of visions is there's viciousness, then there's this
whole new level of viciousness that you have not seen.
And I think we need to be prepared. I think we need to do
it in a way that respects people's privacy rights. Well,
let me make
notice, she says respects people's privacy rights, but not
actually respects their privacy
point. When you look at what companies collect the
government, it does not seem to be a major offender at all.
Oh, thanks for bringing that mean back in you, hey, you let
Google and Yahoo and Facebook and Twitter take all your
information. Wow, that's it. You have no problem with that, then
certainly, you can let the same kind of information go into the
government, because we're going to protect you from New bombs,
new terrorist new groups, and a new level of viciousness.
Seriously, think about that. And the difference, of course,
Chairman, that is only the government that can deprive you
of your liberty, you know, Google or Amazon, that's still
you still have to click to acquiesce tonight, even though
they have a lot of that personal information. And I always love
how it's always Google or Amazon. It's never the real
guys. Never Facebook. Never Taught never is it Facebook.
Now.
Facebook should be number one on the list.
Yes, we know that the FBI, the director of the FBI, you love
to harp on this went out just hanging out there. They probably
have, you know, if you go to Boeing, and you go visit the
corporate offices, you'll find an office in the Boeing facility
for United Airlines. If they have an office in the bill, and
they're in the building, and they sorted the other airline
and I just there is probably in office. I don't know this for a
fact. But it would make sense that says FBI and you go and
they guys can go in there and they make some calls and
bring up a command line. Do what they want. So I want to remind
everyone go back to the Time magazine interview Person of the
Year Mark Zuckerberg Facebook, in the article itself, Robert
Mueller, then director of the FBI, who was instated just two
months before 911. just coincidence, and whose statutory
10 year term was extended? Because she's so great. pokes
his head head into the conference room door while
Zuckerberg is being interviewed and says oh, hey, yeah, I just
want to say hi. I've been in the building for a couple hours.
Yeah, in his office. I've been I've been cleaning. What else
would it be? He can't be just roaming around aimlessly with a
cup of coffee. He has an office. Right?
I guess we should we should get the let me see. FBI base book.
New I'm just trying to think what was that actual quote? It
was really funny. It was so off handed. And it was in Time
Magazine.
Right. And it was Zuckerberg and nobody would took it. They
didn't blink an eye. Well, no
one who read the article blinked an eye. Oh, I'm sorry. Your
technology press failed you g surprise. Okay. Here's Mike
Rogers now Mike Rogers. He's either on the tape currently, or
he can't wait to get out and be just so rich. Me so he's going
to be leave his wife rich. This guy. For Russian and bimbos.
This guy is he's setting himself up so big time.
This was a thief who we believe had some help.
Okay, hold on, whoa, whoa, new information.
That's new information.
It's new information new and improved.
And who's we? You got me on that one. All right, onward. Okay.
This is new information.
This was a thief who we believe had some help, who stole
information. The vast majority had nothing to do with privacy.
Our Army, Navy, Air Force Marines have been incredibly
harmed by the data that he has taken with them. And we believe
now is in the hands of nation states. What helped did he have
who helped him do? Well,
good question. Chip Gregory. You're on script who helped him?
There were certain questions that we have to get answered.
Where some of this a first of all, if it was a privacy concern
he had, he didn't look for information on the privacy side
for Americans. He was stealing information that had to do with
how we operate overseas to collect information to keep
Americans safe. That that's begs the question in some of the
things that he did were beyond his technical capabilities. Yes,
hold
on, hold on. new information, new information, people. I got
new information questions.
How he arranged travel before he left. How he had he was ready to
go he had a go bag if you will. Whoa, he had a go bag
information man. New shit has come to light and how he but how
x eye level do you think who well, I will let me just say
this. I believe there's a reason he ended up in the hands. The
loving arms of an FSB agent Oh,
Could that be Sarah Harrison? The former girlfriend of Julian
Assange? The loving he said he's he goes out of his way to say
the loving arms you mean the bear arms because she's wearing
that nice little strapless black f me dress in Moscow and now has
disappeared herself to Berlin. Ah, this is getting very
juicy in Moscow. I don't think that's a coincidence, not a
coincidence. Let me just talk about the Russia has helped that
stone.
I believe there's questions to be answered there.
i Well, you know, the Russians, I'm sorry. The Russians who hate
gays. The gay hating gay beating target code breaking evil
Russians
don't think it's it was a gee whiz luck event that he ended up
in Moscow under the handling of the FSB. That's a significant
development if yes, Chuck. That's a signal chip. What is
the I see we have we have questions we have to answer. But
as somebody who used to do investigations, some of the
things we're finding we would call clues, clues certainly
would indicate to me that he had some help.
What did he used to do when it comes to investigations? This
was Mike Rogers. Let me just check that. We definitely need
to look at this. What the hell did Mike Rogers do that he was
involved in investigations. Was he was he a DEA or something?
You're sure.
Was he in a? Mike Rogers too many of these guys areas?
I was the police officer. No, I
think it was like a district attorney. He's a lawyer. I'm
sure of it.
Let me see. I'm looking I don't really have a bachelor's degree
in criminal justice. Okay. He went to college, served the
United States Army worked as a special agent. Oh, okay. A
Special Agent with the FBI at the Chicago office.
I didn't realise he was into incidents. I didn't
realise he was in the shooting. I think not in the Chicago
Cabal. I didn't realise that. It makes sense of course. Oh, well
there you go. Yeah, he's with the FBI. He's a he's a Fed makes
so much sense.
Well, maybe if this is all true based on our basic thesis which
comes in goes in different forms of strength. The people who
helped him were the CIA and now they're going after the eight
did what part of the agency has turned on the NSA and they're
gonna they're gonna they're gonna this was a threat this
this little thing
right here threat I totally agree was a threat I agree level
that
the CIA for screwing with the NSA and all the rest of it wow,
it was it was a veiled threat very well done. Yeah, I'm almost
Clip of
the Day had I not set it up?
It was almost it was it still wasn't a god it was almost Tip
of the Day.
That's all right. I still want to thank you for your cover. By
the way.
I'm gonna tell you how you get wind Clip of the Day. Might when
you when you play with something and my eyebrows go up?
Well, let me turn on the camera to make sure I catch that. Hold
on one second. I gotta go. I got an unfortunate warning here that
my track? Yeah, my 20 Will Rogers my my trackpad battery is
extremely low. So let me just replace, replace that. That's
These are not easy things to do. Because it's spring loaded that
little,
little expensive battery. What kind of batteries in a trackpad
to double A's? Oh, that's no big deal. double A's big giant
double A's?
No double, double A's or pen lights?
Yeah, the big giant. No, no, there's a triple A's. They're
big.
Well, yeah, that's true. That's true. You know, the other day,
just before we move on, Miss Mickey was in her studio, that
she um, she has one of these kind of boom boxes that you
stick from the old old iPod days. So the new iPods don't
even show the new iPhones won't even work on it as the old
connector, but it has a little giant connector and and it's
from Europe, and for some reason, it only has 220. So she
can't plug it into the mains. So she likes the box. She said
could you please replace the batteries? And there are six D
size batteries in there. I mean,
what? A little transformer that would let you run to 20 All
right,
that's not the point. Have you ever held six? I mean, you look
at six D size batteries. You're thinking that a car should be
able to drive on these things.
I think you can suck enough energy out of those in one shot.
Immediately you should be able to recharge a Tesla S with those
things. What technology was not that we thought these D size
batteries
were great. I haven't seen that compared to a lantern battery.
Remember
dry cells dry so do experiments with a dry cell. We can make mac
and we can make
measure old dry cells but the lantern batteries have big giant
square thing with the two springs
yellow, usually yellow with with red top lantern. Anyway,
yes, yes. And I was just gonna, that was just reminiscing, I was
just gonna use those lander batteries to start the aeroplane
engines for model aeroplanes.
Oh, yeah? I just got a new battery for the truck yesterday
did you buy interstate battery? Those are the questions. Yes,
it is an interesting, it's funny because I went to this this
place right around the corner is I think a good year affiliate or
something. So they they sell tires, and but you can basically
roll in with an American made car and say, you know, put
something on it make it work. And I didn't have because the
truck of the battery is so dead and you just pick one out, we'll
put it in myself. So I get the I get the battery from the guy.
And he's in there, Brad. He's a nice guy, you know, older guys
are probably near 60. And, and they and I say do you do the
emissions test as well? Because I need to do that. Because yeah,
but you got to when you put the battery in the truck, you got to
drive it for a day or two because the computer needs to
start restoring information because it's all been flushed
out and otherwise we can't get the right reading for the test.
Wait, wait, wait. But when I say Yeah, well, you know, computers
bullcrap. And he said, Yeah. He said, sometimes I think the
Unabomber was right. Like, whoa, whoa. I said Ted Kaczynski says,
oh, man, I love that guy. He said, did you know about him?
Next is do you know he reached out to him teaching at Harvard?
I'm like, Yeah, tell you gotta read player piano with Ted
Kaczynski. Oh my gosh, I got a friend for life.
Well, I have a piece of advice. Okay, keep your interstate
battery warranty keep them keep the paperwork on it, or at least
go back to the original guys because the Interstate Batteries
as good as they are. When they crap out. They always crap out a
little bit before they're supposed to like six months, and
they will give you the prorated price on the next battery six
year warranty on this battery die in five years. Okay, we'll
get we'll get one six of your money back.
You're telling me this truck is going to last another five
years? Well, I guess
your case is not appropriate. But I've got I've always had my
Interstate Batteries. They always crap. They're good
batteries. When they crap out. They just crap out real quick.
And then you end up and you'll and it's always before the six
years. It's never going to be six years bullcrap. It's no way.
Well, I appreciate the advice. I thank you for your courage. And
in the morning to you John C. Dvorak.
Well, that's a change of pace. In the morning to you, Mr. Adam
curry, also all the ships at sea, all the boots on the
ground, the feet in the air, the Grox in the water, and all the
days and nights out there. And I also want to say hi to Hi. Hi.
Yeah. Hi, who are new listeners?
Oh, that's very nice. I want to say in the morning to all of our
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a new version of the art. Thank you for putting it in there
because I misspelt the vortex name. And neither you or I
caught it.
I thought that was the way I spelled it
DOVR A K.
That's how much we're paying attention. Yeah.
So I swapped it out. But that was nice, Rob. Thank you. I know
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So give that a shot. And well, you probably noticed there's no
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That's true. So we live.
That's actually what you said, right? There is a fact. Yeah, we
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I don't know about that. Yeah, you will. That's right. I will
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If you don't you get it. You're doing the show. Like I should.
No, no, no, no, no, I think I can just he'll be here Bill
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licence. Ha ha ha put him in the Perez Hilton camp where you can
only report on true you can only report and celebrate he's now
that's all
he's good for. That's right. All right. Well, we have a few of
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Nice.
He apparently is doing well in some way. One of his many
businesses. He's one of those serial entrepreneurs that people
always talk about, but nobody ever
no one actually knows. We know. This is him.
He wants another apparently he's become superstitious, which is a
good thing about the karma because it works for him. And so
he needs another dose because he needs it for a big day on
Tuesday.
Oh, all right. So this is David Foley, Archduke of Silicon
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I will I'm gonna have to do the math or have run the numbers
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but I believe he's got a couple you know, he's got a little ways
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I'm just just well I have a note here. So you got to note I got I
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I did get that but I lost track of it.
And I did go to drunken webmaster.com and it's great. It
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Does he struggle?
Well, first of all, he's drunk.
Oh, well, I like that idea.
Have you ever seen Doug with high getting dug with high? No.
It's a podcast where it's comedian who apparently is kind
of in that meaning. My name isn't Doug. Brenton something
he's in Another comedian circuit and what he does is he has
people on mainly comedians. They smoke, a bong, and then the he
interviews. Like it's pretty good actually. And the
idea for a show legally drunk I've always wanted to do
Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of interesting to watch.
I would go on that show I would do that. I would just vote the
bond which is smoke if you don't smoke. I would do it
for the show is not going to kill me. I'm not going to fall
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just centre Yeah, it works. Yeah.
Tom, Adam, your idea is brilliant. There are tangible
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require remediation and preparation. I have registered
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He understands his company Millennium Knight was formed on
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have donated 2030 in dollars by the year 2030. So he was looking
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genius. So I'm sure he'll be selling seeds. And then Darren,
Adam and listing for about a year now love the show just
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had people in the mouth
all right. The amphetamines are wearing off so I'll let you talk
for a bit.
Well, let me get before we talk about amphetamines wearing off
that you mentioned it. Did you know about the drugs in Syria?
Yeah, news. I know that there's, there's trafficking I'm not
quite sure.
It's actually worse than that. And here's a clip and to keep
people up to date on this and he there's a new thing in there
that you'll find interesting.
Fighters on both sides of the Syrian civil war. turning to
drugs as both a source of funding and staying power in
battle. A recent media investigations revealed the
soaring export or export of illegal amphetamines has turned
Syria into a major drug hub at his methanogen are explained,
was theory about to enter in its fourth devastating year of war,
the lack of law and structure has allowed one dark industry to
flourish, the country has become the number one producer of a
drug known as Captagon. Its essence synthetic stimulant was
first manufactured in the 1960s. And it was at that time used as
a medicine to treat hyperactivity and depression but
it's too addictive and this is why it was banned in most
countries. So here in the Middle East, it's still very popular,
it's cheap, and it's easy to get. But today Syria not only
produces more than any other country in the region, but it's
also captains main consumers believe that fighters are taken
this appeals to maintain vigorous energy levels during
lengthy battles because it helps you keep awake and for hours and
hours but there are also reports that ordinary citizens those who
have been living in depression and in this war and chaos for
almost three years now are also turning to the drug for these
key post euphoria
Can you get me some it's fun ethylene and stuff you see it
always I was never heard of this Captagon but did some research
phenethylamine is that I think is that Fen fan that you see it
you know, they used to advertise it on spammers just to get you
can get it from them
fin fan member
that fin fin something like very,
very vaguely I remember something that was
like a number of years I think that's what this is is
phenethylamine which is which is a chemical that when you take it
it breaks down into into amphetamine and something else
and again, you get gives you a buzz. I don't see any evidence
that is more addictive or horrible, more horrible than
just straight Dex or what's the stuff and was taking
Adderall, Adderall, which is better on that stuff? Yeah.
Adderall, which I was stunned to find out was just a dexedrine.
It's amphetamines, pure amphetamine. Yeah.
You don't want to take in feta means they're not in feta means
or
what did you think it was? That was a magical drug that fix
people's minds?
No, I wish. I wish I was naively thinking it was something other
than why would they change the good old name of Dex amphetamine
to Adderall? Oh, no,
no, there's a reason for that. It's, um, it comes from a DD are
all I read
this the attention deficit disorder is in the name? Yes.
Yes. Yeah.
Yeah. Name? Adderall. I'm telling you. I read this the
other day. That the guy who came up with it named a genius as a
marketing genius. He took something that was invented in
the 60s. See, there must be something about the name here.
Yeah, it was but it was something like add for all or
something. You didn't know that was funny. No, I
didn't know this. This is like embarrassing. I should have
known this.
Yeah, all right. And we keep going. This is interesting.
So anyway, this stuff Fears apparently. And they showed its
comes in a pill form a six big C like a Benny used to be in the
60s Benny never been.
Well I don't I never had them but I remember Benny
there used to be the deuce have Benny's and then the best
Benny's recalled cross tops. And they were appealed and had an
egg kind of across top. You get busted into quarters if you
wanted to. And they were all over the place. It was like this
with truck drivers used in the 60s and 70s. So they stay on as
long hauls. Yeah. And so they get a few Benny so you get if
you would to buy Benny's, you would go to a I knew a guy was
selling him. So I can tell you I knew a lot of details.
Apparently most of them were sold through truckstops and
cafes at the truckstop and they would it was a bag full of them.
You buy a bag of Benny's. And it was a big bag. It was like you
know 100 of them. And it was
100 of them. That will be like $10,000 in the in today's
today's time with Adderall if you had 100 of them.
No, they were 100 of their worth like a dime or 20 cents or
something. They were cheap. But they had these Captagon they the
report goes on they are selling their science kit. What do you
what is an Adderall cost?
Do you think I have no idea? I mean, like 1020 No, it's
insured. So you know who gives a crap.
These Captagon sell for 10 or $20 a piece and apparently is
very easy to make. And they have and they were showing how people
were smuggling them and they were just they're just piles and
piles of these pills. I get the sense that everybody in the
Syrian area is just completely stoked on amphetamines shooting
at everything I mean, this sounds like a safe place. I
wanted to jump in there there's a there's a I have a somewhere
on my collection of tapes,
cassettes, cassettes or reel to reels reel to reel or Betamax.
Or you reel
to reel pneumatics going way back No, we're going to early
stuff. Uh huh. I have I have that I know. I've got it
somewhere I'm gonna I'm moving on my reel to reels to I bought
a big reel to reel deck a big dead 10 inch TIAC Oh, nice. I'm
gonna sell afterwards because apparently they're valuable. And
they I'm going to move everything to DVDs because the
these tapes are just not getting you know, they're getting
crosstalk and the rest of the problems you have with tapes.
Because you know that when they sit next to it when they say
they're not being rewound much they start to magnetise the
sound from the next layer. I have a bit where Bob and Ray and
I've never heard this reproduced I've never heard I've looked and
looked for and I know and I have a copy somewhere, Bob and Ray at
the amphetamine factory. Who are Bob and Ray, Bob and Ray are
these two deadpan comics that were very popular in the 50s 60s
and 70s. And I think they went back to the radio days probably
in the 30s and 40s I think the 40s. And then there was if you
knew what Bob and Ray was, you could just imagine and there's
probably about 10% of our audience who does you can just
imagine them doing that bit in the amphetamine factory. And to
me and feta means and all these things meth and all the rest.
Listen to
this for a second. Bob Elliot and Ray Goulding American comedy
team, whose career spanned five decades their format was
typically to satirise the medium in which they were performing.
Hello crackpot and buzzkill Yeah, we're channelling Bob and
Ray. Well, there's
a Bob and Ray element to the show. That's for sure. Whatever
the case there, especially when we do our sketches, which we
don't do isn't enough of but
I have one for later. Oh,
I have so anyway, Bob. I just imagine all these people hopped
up on amphetamines and with guns. I mean, this
is the larious with Stinger missiles not just guns. Wow.
That's good. I mean, it's not good that that's happening in
Syria because I probably what's going on? You know, now is these
the talk of the you know, the rebels are fighting each other
now, which is kind of pretty sure that was that was what was
going on to start with. Yeah, now that they're just it's
probably over drugs. It's probably an all in all an all
out drug war. Just to the south of Turkey coincidentally. Wow.
Ya know, the situation is bad. Well, here we
go. Here's Bob and Ray. The Bachelor, are you familiar with
this programme, the bachelor?
I watched the first season of it because I thought it was
somewhat entertaining. And then I never watched it sense.
So all the shows just started out right. The January the mid
season replacement. Everything's going on everyone's a was
looking for ratings. And that's why all that's why all your
celebrity award shows are on now. It's all about the ratings.
So the bachelor, the current bachelor, Juan Pablo galatas
came out with something very controversial. He said gays
shouldn't be on this show. And of course, this is now turning
into a controversy. Now,
here's why amid this gaze is he's referring to the females. I
know many else now that there's no males on the show except him.
Well, I'm going to I'm going to read you from the article it's
in the in the in the show notes here. Here we go. Oh Juan Pablo
Gollum is the 32 year old star of the bachelor who will also
appear the most recent season of The Bachelorette made the
remarks and interview with TVs TV pages, Sean Daly, who posted
audio of the comments. The writer asked whether ABC ABC
should have a gay or bisexual Bachelor on the show. No, gala
has responded just because I respect them. But honestly, I
don't think it's a good example for kids to watch that on TV.
It's hard it's hard. It's a very thin line. Now here's here's the
here's what I find interesting. ABC is the the channel that runs
the bachelor. ABC of course we know owns a&e, who of course
have the Duck Dynasty programme. So I think it kind of went like
this shit we need some ratings. What can we do? Well, let me let
me call down to marketing for a second hold on a second let me
hello Marketing Marketing here. Hey, marketing listen. We need
some ratings for this bachelor show. This is crap crap crap
what you got? Gays? What do you mean gays
bring a gay in the military?
How does the gay work well, how do we get ratings with gays? You
got a proof?
Yeah, make? I would say a fan just offhand. Put a gay
bachelor.
Hey, I'm gonna call the other marketing department. This one
doesn't have the right script. Hold on a second. smart
marketing department here. Hey, we got it really worked. That
Duck Dynasty gay thing really worked. Why don't we have the
guy do an interview? Yeah, do an interview and say something
outrageous about gays. Okay, yeah, I can idea right now. What
are you gonna do? Have them say that?
There's no room for gays on the show.
Excellent idea. Excellent. We can tie it in and we can grab
some of that anti gay stuff from NBC. Those guys have got all the
Russian gay shit with the with the Olympics. Cry. We got to
steal our gays.
Yeah, no, we don't want anyone watching NBC.
Hey, how old are you there in the marketing department?
I'm the 35 year old lady.
Exactly. So funny. Is Brian the gay Crusader sent me this is Oh
my God, look with us. Hello. Don't you see how easy this is
to deconstruct is that they were successful with a nice Duck
Dynasty. No, they're trying to do it for all their ABC
properties. Hello. Don't you
have all this data yet? All the networks are probably really
rife with gays.
And it's just so interesting that the gay community I'm
sorry, the LGBT the LGBTQ Qi community doesn't see how you're
used and manipulated. Yes,
your sexuality is being completely abused, abused. Which
brings me to the happy news. That today we will be releasing
the white paper that clearly shows the the propaganda used by
primarily American but certainly Western media to scandalise, and
shout down Russia, for the so called gay hate laws. I'll just
take it all the way. That proves that the these laws are not only
specifically hating gays, that Russia actually is much more
LGBTQ Qi friendly than certainly the United States. And Case in
point you everyone probably saw that Putin to you know, to hype
up the Olympics did a very rare interview, which was translated
in the following way.
The Sochi Games are a huge moment of national pride and
prestige involving huge investment, new roads, new
railways, effectively an entire new winter resort. But the rest
of the world has been looking on and seeing controversy over
corruption over the release of political prisoners. And above
all, a bitter bitter row between the West and Russia over gay
rights to Paralympian that remains a philosophical divide
on a day when Mr. Putin said gays were welcome at the
Olympics, but they should leave the kids in peace. So it was all
the money.
So this was essentially interpreted by certainly the
British press, but all over the world as Oh, paedophilia, gays
are paedophiles automatically, really. And that's what you're
saying.
That's great.
I mean, seriously, it? Putin cautions gay visitors to not
abuse children. I mean, I don't speak Russian, I'd love to get a
true translation of what he said, because of course, the law
is really only about minors. The word gay is not in the law
anywhere.
No, it's about any alternative lifestyle any,
any whatsoever. And it is specifically for minors. So what
he was saying is, hey, you do whatever you want to do. But you
can't propagandise minors, that's our law. And that's very
different from strict anti gay laws. They hate gays. I've
actually I've been fighting with not fighting. But Brian, one of
the the, the reported number of LGBTQ IQ BBI crimes in Russia
versus America, the difference is astounding. I mean, seriously
in like two years in America 1400 in Russia 20. Of course,
you know, there's like, what is reporting issues? Exactly.
That's that was my I said, Dude, if I had this report, I'd I'd
call this invalid, because come on, you know, it's like the Who
the hell knows what they're reporting. But anyway, it's it's
really is it's a, it's a beautiful piece of work. I do
have a couple of the points from it, which is just kind of nice.
Just to I think I put that in here today. Maybe we don't have
it offhand. But really, when you see what is allowed in America
versus what is allowed in Russia, when it comes to living
together, being in the military, adopting children, it's much
more liberal in Russia. But it doesn't matter because it's,
this is a machine that we can fight forever. And we're not
going to win, but at least we've done it and I'm very, very proud
of Brian, who is going to be ridiculed by his own community
to no end for doing this. So I
asked, not if his if he closes if he doesn't write, and I get
ignored is what usually will happen if it's done. Well. Yes.
But yes, it will. He'll be ignored. But it's it doesn't
matter. People will do the mainstream people who just will
not take the effort even to read his white paper.
are no effective is done right. Somebody will get a hold of
white papers summarise it incorrectly, yes. And make that
the meme
got an email from surgeon Baron of Jamaica Plain and surrounding
plantations on the gay protest, and I'd be interested to see the
white paper about the Russian gay laws that the no agenda
listeners producing because like most people, I don't know. And
Jim, is LGBTQ Qi something. I don't know what is actually the
fact about the supposed anti gay legislation in Russia. We have
no deconstruction or analysis which isn't such things except
by no agenda and its supporters. All the corporate media
investigate investigative journalist seem to be busy going
through Justin Bieber's trash. Well, it's true. wishes you know
that. I'll be licenced for that me and Perez Hilton. I do
remember since I lived in Denver at the time the wrongheaded and
counterproductive reaction by gay groups and individuals in
response to the passage of an unpleasant homophobic initiative
in Colorado in the early 90s. This was amendment to see this
was actually said generally homophobic and mean spirited
initiative, whipped up by the folks at pat robertson's
Christian coalition. In the category of never missing an
opportunity to miss an opportunity. Major gay ski
clubs, particularly in California, announced a blanket
boycott of Colorado as a venue. As a result, most gay owned and
operated guest houses and bed and breakfasts in major resorts,
Vail, Beaver Creek, Aspen, etc. Who got the lion's share of gay
Travel Bookings were put out of business or had to relocate. You
see, this is very important what what Jim is saying is, it's
counterintuitive. You think you're protesting but you're
actually hurting everything. It may be the idea what could have
been a teaching moment to do something politically savvy and
divert business preferentially to gay owned establishments and
publicise the amendment as bad business ended up only hurting
gay people and gay friendly business in Colorado. Final
irony. Where do you think the outrage and high minded
California gay ski clubs diverted their trips to Park
City Utah? That is kind of ironic. Exactly. Here come the
boots. It couldn't be it couldn't be your right. That's a
very interesting point, John.
Yeah, it could be a setup. It could have been the Park City
Utah guys who were behind the whole Oh, look at this horrible
thing. Boycott all of it. Yeah, well, I mean, that's the way
capitalism works.
In printed man, but anyway, so the LGBTQI community members, my
brothers and sisters, you are being duped? duped, you are
being duped? The everyone's being
duped and not just them. Well, I know but talking about being
duped and apparently that bullcrap or almost bombed Syria,
and we're just barely didn't bomb them. Because of good carry
and all the rest of it yeah, here's the rockets in Syria and
gassing bull crap that just recently come to light really.
I'm a correspondent in New York City there will be time to us
conclusion that a chemical attack near Damascus in August
was carried out by the government has been challenged
by a team of highly respected experts. Washington immediately
then blamed president is sad, but this new report from the
Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the rocket
couldn't have been fired from government controlled areas.
We went through two to three months worth of study to
determine the types of rockets. There's the weight, the size,
the propellant, and we determined that the range is on
the order of two kilometres. I like to make a note that the UN
also had come up with a range of approximately two kilometres so
this is very confusing to us in our studies, and we're trying to
understand exactly what the White House map means. Because
right now, as it stands, these rockets could have never been
fired from government controlled territory. They would be fired
more from a rebel type of territory, or a border of a
contested territory.
Hey Bieber Bieber Bieber throw some eggs somewhere man they're
on to the rocket ship come
Hey Bosh. Okay Bosh?
Throw some eggs at the house next door. Hey, get one of your
friends have some coke? Yeah. Baba.
We are show said this when it happened. Yeah,
we deconstructed come right down to the the mind the finest minut
detail of why it could not have been the government.
And besides the point they most of the target was a bunch of
soldiers, government soldiers that were making inroads on the
rebels. I mean, and that, of course, that's when John Kerry
and the President came out with their killing their own people.
And I always thought it was kind of ludicrous that they were
shoot, they were killing their own soldiers. And nobody seemed
to think twice about this now. Well, that's okay. We even know
what's going on. We didn't I didn't do this was going on. But
we didn't know it was going on it we not we talked about it.
But played this clip Panama Canal
in interesting. Okay, Panama Canal. Welcome back.
The Panama Canal Expansion Project may soon grind to a
halt. The canals administration is in the midst of a financial
dispute with a Spanish consortium working on that
project. And now it has reportedly held talks with other
contractors as it prepares to suspend a project on Monday.
Negotiations are still underway with the current workers for
now, the construction group went $1.6 billion over budget before
threatening to stop unless they're paid more.
Now, was this not the Chinese financing and financing this? Is
it? Do I recall that for some reason?
Well, I thought the Chinese were doing it and apparently not not.
And yeah, yeah, this case, this by the way, this report came
from CCTV, but they didn't really discuss the where the
money's coming from. But the Yeah, they're trying to widen
the thing. So they can cut time, you know, because the shipping
companies I mean, we talked about the rail companies trying
to move your goods and services from China into Europe and
elsewhere.
This is for the bigger this I think if I recall, this is for
the the the LNG ships, we need to have these huge
Well, there's a Yeah, we need this and but choda, the Chinese
because there's still cars, don't anybody you I mean, you or
me or anyone else think that the shipping companies, the ones who
move goods from China to the United States over the ocean are
going to roll over or they're embedded with the rail
companies. Of course not not going to happen. So they said
the Chinese wanted to widen this thing, and they showed them some
aerial shots. Holy crap. Yeah. It's like they're gonna make
this thing the size of it's going to be so wide, you can run
to, you know, three across kind of thing going through. I don't
know. Anyway, so but some, I guess, the Spanish decided
they're not going to do any more work. Well,
hey, I have siesta. We're done. We're done at AOC, the Panama
Canal Authority,
I think it would be the Chinese somehow botching this because,
you know, they're not the greatest managers of anybody but
Chinese.
Yeah, yes. Yes. I would agree. That's interesting. Well, now
you've you know, I know people in Panama in fact, we have a we
have a Panama person. And one of our one of our Panamanian
listers, produces runs a hotel in Panama,
that we need to start getting some communications going here.
Yeah. Well, he sent
me an email recently and he said, come on down.
I never got one. I never got an invite. I would love to see
Panama.
And we have we have another friend of the show who has a
house there.
We can do a meet up. Yeah.
We can have a meet up with our one friend at the hotel
restaurant, we're good to go. It could also be called lunch. But
what we'll name it
should be a lunch, tax, write all that tweet up three, tax
write off, we call it a meet up as much better. All righty.
Again, I've got a couple more things here we've I do have this
little longer exposome of that, which I think would conclude
with the, I think everyone said, Well, we have to show that the
alternative media personalities and Amy Goodman, in this case is
an
idiot. Can I can I make a recommendation? Yes, we have a
rather short list. Why don't we thank our producers and then do
this right after that, because it looks like you've got a
couple of things here. And
well, before we do that, before we thank our producers, I do
have a little a little rant that we can run. This is a guy like
an Occupy guy and I was watching this with the buzzkill Jr. and I
was this is a guy on a megaphone only he's got a microphone and
the megaphone is being held by someone else. Oh, this,
that's the ultimate. And someone else is,
is pointing the megaphone while this guy talks into the mic into
this little, you know, like a radio control one of those
police microphones with a button on top. Yeah. And JC says it has
something to do with the way they the police would stop
somewhere. That is some rationale for doing this this
way, but the person holding the megaphone.
Okay, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. So if I understand
what you're saying, someone else is holding the megaphone. And
then there's a wire with a mic and the person speaking speaking
to the mic, so he's technically not holding the megaphone, which
has implications on who could get arrested for disturbing the
peace
apparent, something, it's a true some sort of a gambit got it.
Whatever the case is, the person holding the megaphone is texting
with their other hand and also taking selfies during the
process. And I find the whole thing to be semi disturbing, but
I liked this guy's message. And I think it kind of relates to
advertising. And this is the Occupy rant clip,
where the public airwaves for no money. Companies do not pay one
penny to the public broadcasting spectrum. And they use that to
rake in hundreds of billions of dollars. Every year, the news
won't report on stories that go against the corporations that
own they will report on stories that go against the advertisers
that by airtime on their network, that advertisers have
to sign agreements with the networks that mandate that the
network's will not broadcast anything that is offensive or
harmful towards those corporations. This is how money
is censoring our information. And you don't want one of the
biggest advertisers on the networks are the politicians. In
the last election cycle for the President. There was over a
billion dollars spent on presidential campaign
advertisements. How can we trust the media to report and to be
critical on these politicians when they're entirely dependent
on the money from these ad campaigns? And so we have a
democracy that's all been controlled by corporations. They
kick out every other political party but the Republicans and
Democrats and this is what we're left with. I hereby give you a
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so I'm watching the democracy now. And so, so do we decide to
have and I've used the word So too many times, but it's better.
And moreover,
you can borrow Moreover, just use Moreover,
to try to use Moreover, now that you mentioned I think I think
it's a new thing. And you know, it Moreover, a mom just
Moreover, so she
has a real hard on for the nuclear business. Oh, yeah. And
she always has She's an old liberal. And they all think like
it's 1955. And we're all gonna die and all the rest of it. So I
couldn't help but pick up her. You know, she she decides to do
the show for the next few days from Tokyo, where she's wringing
her hands over the fact that she's probably going to die from
radiation.
Is she talking about the fish and the starfish dying off
massive sea life annihilation?
Well, mostly, it's just anti nuke propaganda. She didn't
break said she does bring a lot of that up. I don't have time
for all those clips. But let's start with it. I wanted to hear
the whole thing because she brings on this this character,
who then everything she does, it just this becomes a very
embarrassing segment. She kills the show right after the end of
this guy that she brings on who has actually a pretty good
looking operation. But let's start with a move that a move
that she announced that she's on the road Report.
I'm Amy Goodman. We are on the road in
on the road again. Where she says it on the road as we're on
the road, he could get a gig at a top 40 station any day. Hey,
everybody, Jamie Goodman in the morning when you were on the
road Report. I'm Amy Goodman. We are on the road to Tokyo, Japan.
Broadcasting for the third of our three days of special
broadcasting live from the top of the Empire State Building to
all states in the tri state area and beyond. We're on the road in
Tokyo. I'm Amy Goodman,
Han is getting ready to mark the third anniversary of one of the
world's worst atomic disasters. It was March 11 2011 When a
massive 9.0 magnitude earthquake triggered a devastating tsunami
that struck Japan's northeast coast what began as a natural
disaster quickly cascaded into a manmade one as system after
system failed at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
My god John Hold on I gotta stop. She is everything fair?
She's read it like this.
She's always tried to read like Walter Cronkite. That's what
she's trying
to do. It's Yeah,
boy, three of the six reactors suffered meltdowns. Really
no wrong, wrong. Wrong stop. There was no meltdown Shut up
deadly radiation into the atmosphere and the ocean. Three
years later, Japan is still reeling from the impact of the
disaster. More than 340,000 people became nuclear refugees
forced to abandon their homes and their livelihoods entire
towns were forced to evacuate, evacuate, including Futaba, a
town that house part of the Fukushima Daiichi plant before
March 11 2011. nearly 7000 people lived in the town today
Futaba is a nuclear ghost town.
Hey, how is Nagasaki and Hiroshima are they nuclear ghost
towns? Oh, by the way, not a single US president ever has
visited the war memorial for Nagasaki or Hiroshima? You want
to talk about nuclear disaster AMY GOODMAN you shit
it's okay so she brings on the mayor of either that town she
just mentioned or Fukushima is medicine and this before we get
to the kind of the other meat this it to me it was just
ridiculous. It was a giveaway it was a setup it was the whole
thing tells me what a scam and leading the rest of the clips
what a scam. She's into. Just you'll you will have to laugh at
the punch line to this one. Is this Amy and Amy with the mayor.
Oh, I'm sorry. Do you have them numbered but it's not okay.
Robert, I got it.
In the United States a nuclear power plant has not been built
in close to 40 years, very much because of the anti nuclear
movement and the cost of what it means to build a nuclear power
plant and what to do with the waste. But President Obama has
talked about a nuclear resident renaissance and is pushing for
the building of several new plants for the first time in
decades. What message would you share with him?
Okay, impersonal Chico, he Han no fisherman logical diversity
master. The nuclear power disaster is not just a Fukushima
gene Do you know Thursday schedule logical this. This is a
disaster of all humanity of the entire world. Nihon Makoto was
only there is a Japanese saying nanomotors handled to you Koto
Coronavirus Zico drop Sankai Medina gain chi the co2
Yokozuna, meaning is that well, any kind of disaster is or three
times is the limit. America, children OBD Steve Kusuma Mo's
Hunka magical question Mr. And we've had the three large
disasters, one in the United States, one at Chernobyl and now
Fukushima, chorizo. Excuse Campuzano Zico here is the
Creator who has an intimacy the earth will not be able to cope
with any further nuclear disasters Surah Nicodemo Toluca,
mini Z Yamato see this for the children of the future the
future generations I
hope that we can stop this now. What is the alternative to
calling
the MA medica? Or shear to customer holiness? I've heard in
the US there is shale gas for example.
No, you don't say you guys give
your mind people fracking? Oh
no, the fracking is good. That's That's great.
When we bring this guy up this guy in and Amy starts off like
this character runs this company they name and I don't have it
off top my head but you'll hear it and it's actually pretty
cool. This guy's a cool guy. And he's having none of her like
suppositions and her freakishness about in this
reported Neil's here to start with the Amy Goodman zero
Safecast volunteers use Geiger counters and open source
software to measure the radiation then post the data
online for anyone to access.
Now I want to I do need to set it up a little bit this company
safe cast she I'm convinced she brought this guy on thinking to
be like another shill for her opinions about the nuke industry
and that we're all gonna die and this guy is going to prove it
because he's actually gone out there and created this
interesting little system where you were it's kind of like
Google Google cars that take pictures. They just drive around
with a Geiger counter and they with the GPS and then they
monitor what what the radiation is. Turns out not to be quite as
as horrible as she's imagining it but but not play this
finished this clip zero
open source software to measure the radiation then post the data
online for anyone to access. Their effort comes as Japan
recently passed a new secrecy bill. Well for more we're joined
by Peter Franken who is co founder of safe cast Welcome to
Democ See now explain what it is you've done. You're turning
smartphones into Geiger counters.
Not really. Not really. Yeah. goes,
what? Where did you even get that idea? So it gives her a
dumb Look. She's, she's like she I think she thought that was the
case. And she was hoping to find out how people can use their
smartphones as Geiger counters, which makes no sense. But okay,
so we go on now we have to well,
to be to be fair, there is a way with the camera. Yeah, I know.
You can take some radiation. Yeah, but it's not. It's not
like a Geiger counter. And it's not going to be exact. I have a
I have a nice Geiger counter here.
Oh, I have one two knots that go to Amy to radiation and Tokyo
because now she's trying to get the guy to say we're all going
to die. And I'm taking a huge chance by being in Tokyo. But
I'm only here three days.
We're here in Tokyo. And this is where Fukushima as you can see,
there's a big difference.
I hold on. That's the gets nervous clip. I think know that.
Well. You want me to play? No, no, I'm playing radiation in
Tokyo. Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry.
Yes. 150 miles up the coast. Yes. And how toxic or
radioactive is it here,
compared to to the rest of Japan, Tokyo got a certain
amount of Fallout, relatively speaking, I think the levels
what they are today, or maybe 50% higher than what they were
before the disaster that compared to locations in
Fukushima is actually relatively low. So in terms of, you know,
really exposure to radioactivity, this is nothing
compared to what what is happening in Fukushima
Prefecture and areas around there. Shit.
This is not that she didn't get the answer she wanted to know.
Now, did they actually the other clips should have been played
first. That was my mistake. But play this is before he explains
all this, that there's nothing to worry about. This is her
reacting to hips doing nothing more than holding up a tablet,
and then zooming in on Tokyo.
And I'll try to kind of zoom into where we are right now in
Tokyo. And as we're zooming in are very nervous. And see every
single 3d Because the all the measurements we have done,
Rhonda, you're making me very nervous, because I'm going to
die of radiation. Wow,
I was just that when she said that. I was thinking what kind
of what a screwed up person. This guy can ask
you a question about this report. Yeah. I'm I'm amazed
that Amy is even in Japan, because, you know, the nuclear
fallout and the radiation from Hiroshima and from Nagasaki has
just got to be frying her right now. She must be extremely
worried about that true nuclear explosion, a real nuclear bomb
that went How far is let's just hold on a second before ways how
far is Nagasaki? Nagasaki from Tokyo?
How far? Because let's find out
because you know, of course we all know that. You know this,
this radiation is going from all the way from
Nagasaki to Tokyo. I'll look up Hiroshima. All right.
I shall ask Google for directions.
That's what I'm doing.
It's it's quite a ways actually. It seems to be. Oh, that's quite
a ways. Oh, yeah.
Russia was long ways. Oh, yeah. It's 420 miles.
Now is that that's not as far as Fukushima 250
Miles
right to San Francisco. I mean, they were all worried about with
the beaches, you know, that we have washed up on the beach. So
I would be very worried about the actual nuclear explosions
that killed people. That radiation could be frying you
Amy Goodman, you should be very, very worried. She
apparently got a paid speech. And that's why she's there. Ah,
okay. Gotcha. Yes. Now she fit after this last clip, which is
Amy, Amy. Number three TEPCO. Now she has tried with this guy
to get him to be like, scary to be scary. He's having none of
it. He's actually doing what he's doing. Sounds like a really
good idea. This this operation safe. koehlers Whatever it is,
that is just monitoring is no big deal. Now. Cast. So she
said, Well, there's the new secrecy law. She started off
with that they're trying to still trying to keep this
information from the public. She reads
World World News Daily or something for show prep. What is
she doing?
Now? She's got her she knows she's got the ace in the hole.
She's got to TEPCO, those evil TEPCO owners, she knows that
they have to be meddling with this guy. There's they're,
they're screwing with me.
The Koch brothers
got involved. So here we go with the final the CUDA toggi. Or the
CUDA grass that she thinks she's got here and she's got a nail
Amir, we strongly believe that in order to have credibility,
you need to check your data. And we save cost. Our goal is to
independently measure as citizens if the data is correct
or not. And when
the response of the corporation TEPCO, the Tokyo Electric Power
Company that runs the owns the nuclear power plants to what
you're doing.
We have never been contacted by TEPCO, so I can't really give
her
I love closes the show right after that
I love when journalists waste my time by expanding the acronym.
Yeah. This happens a lot, by the way, and I think it's used to
show some authority, like, look how smart I am. I know what
TEPCO stands for. Let's listen to it again. And that guy's
answers genius
runs the owns the nuclear
only measure US citizens if the data is correct.
And the response of the corporation TEPCO, the Tokyo
Electric Power Company, that runs the whole on
the homeless, she must know she must know her stuff. She She
knows the acronym is the
nuclear power plants to
what you're doing. We have never been contacted by TEPCO, so I
can't really give her
that's it good being on the road, everybody.
And then she signs off. She was just so disappointed with this
guy. Somebody does show rapper does booking. Yeah, must have
gotten something screwed up because I'm sure she, the person
the booker got chewed out because this guy did not perform
as advertised.
And I just love the response from the uninformed towards
these types of segments where we always get the same thing,
but you're talking about the the various douche segment of the
chat room.
Yes. Oh, if it's so safe, why don't you go through the podcast
from Japan? Well, funny you asked, because we will be doing
just that. I'm gonna go to Japan with Miss Mickey. She's gonna do
a show in Japan. We hope we already have you know, we have a
Damon a night there. Oh, I'm sorry. We better hurry before
they're dead. We gotta go.
Yeah, you better get there in the next 40 years.
Sir Mark and Dame Astrid, they may be dead. You know, it can
never make it in time. I just Google Fukushima. Oh, no, no, it
was Hiroshima syndrome. Who will that take a look at that guy's
site. He wants them. It is catching on though. I have to
say more and more people. And alternative media are saying
Hey, hold on a second. This you know there's a lot of
misinformation out here. And
there's a lot of this an AMI saying there's three meltdowns?
I mean, right there.
That's a lie. That is a lie.
It's a blatant lie.
No meltdown.
And I don't even know that we have what gets me is in the chat
room. Is that? Are there people that just listen to the show?
And think what we say even though we document everything
with either clips or actual documents, government documents,
that we're just making this up? Yes. Yeah, no, and we're just
why does it bother listening to the show is baffling. Are we
that entertaining?
It's no I think, yeah. Well, first of all, yes, we are we of
course we're entertaining. We're and we're and this is a comedy
show after all. But it is very It is human nature for people to
who are frustrated and angry. to project onto other people. This
is what the whole gay thing in Russia is about. We talked about
in the last show, you know, the gays are being beat up all over
the United States all over Europe. We have Muslims, you
know, terrorising gays in Europe. I'm calling them out. I
can it's true. This is what's happening. I speak some of the
language over there. And then the same people who have Muslims
being welcomed into their country, and being provided with
social services who are are are seriously terrorising LGBTQ Q
eyes. These the same people who are the most vocal about Russia.
It's easy and you're being manipulated by the Koch
brothers. I'm telling you, all the
Koch brothers are doing it all. We were
at we were at the at the end. This is by the way, the Dell
long Centre, which Michael Dell and his wife build, I have to
say is it's a beautiful venue. It's right down the road from
us. And they have a donor's Lounge, which was because the
guy who invited us Eric he had a table and was it was good setup.
And then this lady comes over and she's she's a big MTV fan.
Yeah. And but she she spots Mickey first, and then she's Oh,
I know who you are. And her husband. What As the chairman of
the board of the Dell centre and she's talking about and she's
What do you do on like, well, I didn't feel like saying I'm a
bomb and everything's podcasts. Oh, yeah. No, I've heard about
your podcast to listen to it. No agenda. Yeah, no, I watch
everything left and right, left and right. I watched Fox and I
watch MSNBC. And it's crazy. Crazy. Crazy. And this fox
people are crazy. I said, Well, you know, it's run by Democrats.
Smoke. John smoke came out of it. Like what? You made it not
run by the Koch brothers. No, but why does everyone watch the
midst? What else? Have you seen the legs on Fox News? And you'll
now her eyes are rolling back in her head. I can't wait. She She
She said she would listen so
well listen, because it's not video. Ad. Have you noticed?
Have you? Oh, yeah. You know, I've seen your show.
Yeah, that's I'm sorry, we that you did not actually watch digit
now. But the same with with the men come so we had a
conversation about this concept of giving everybody a set amount
of money. And and that this has been tried and you know, there's
been tests, etc. And we're just discussing it. Right? And then
the first email I get is, oh, well, you should stop maybe your
value for value system, then try that. Isn't the kind of this is
this is exactly the kind of email,
same guy. Why does he keep contacting us? This was a
different guy. Oh is different guy with that same voice? I
wonder if I can find that. It was funny. Parents like wow, why
do you get all angry? What? Instead of I look, you couldn't
you can disagree. You can have opinions. But the people who say
well, you should start your podcast in Japan, you should do
this. It's like, just go away. Yeah, really go away. Crazy. To
have our producers, their young uns, I believe. You just see
what I had this. We have Brandon and Carrie. And they have I
guess Carrie is also she's completely into legislation
stuff. And they're both producers. And they listen to
the show. I believe they're relatively young like 20s. And
they sent me two bills, education bills from New York
state from the New York State Senate. Which I had no idea this
was going on. And I was really astounded by the first one bill
and so these are proposed bills. And I don't see any reason why
they wouldn't go into law. A 8186 Dash 2013 Which on January
8 2014, was referred to education. So I'm pretty sure
this will this will pass an act to amend the education law this
for New York State in relation to including psychological
screening for students in public schools as part of the required
health certificate. Oh, I did not know first of all that in
New York State. A health certificate shall be furnished
by each student in the public schools upon his or her entrance
in such school, and upon his or her entry into the grades
prescribed by the commissioner in regulations, provided that
such regulation shall require such certificates at least twice
during the elementary grades and twice in the secondary grades.
Yes, make sure that people get their flu shots. This is done by
the drug companies.
So here's the new part performed and that the child is mentally
fit to permit attendance at school. Each certificate shall
also state the student's body mass index and weight status
category. Nice should they do? Maybe you should check their
teeth make sure that they're sturdy in their in their coats.
coats are shiny and make sure their nails aren't too sharp.
Yeah, for purposes of this section, Batty body mass index
is computed as the weight in kilogrammes divided by the
square of height in metres or the weight in pounds divided by
the square bah bah bah. This is very disturbing. They are now
equating body mass index to mental health. And then the
second one bill S 142 duchies. All
because of Honey BooBoo. There's no doubt about it. Well, okay.
So this has now been referred to the Education Committee January
8 2014. This bill, an act to amend the education law in
relation to requiring persons in parental relation with a child
of elementary school age to attend. Parents support
programmes. The purpose of this bill requires parents to attend
support programmes designed to enhance parenting skills.
Wow, you're not doing it. This will be clearer by the day.
Summary of scientific provisions amends the Education Law Section
3212 subdivision two by adding a new paragraph F requires parents
of elementary school children to attend a minimum of four parents
support instruction programmes.
Prior to the child's advancement to the seventh grade requires
employers to provide one day per year of paid job leave for the
purposes of attending such instruction programmes.
This stuff amends the Education Law Section three nine This is
gotta be going on and a lot of this requires the commissioner
in consultation with the Board of Regents to develop guidelines
for the content and distribution of a series of 12 parenting
workshops provides that the topic of one such workshop shall
be related to the physical, emotional and sexual abuse of
children requires that completion of four workshops
prior to the child's graduate have
workshops on how to abuse children
requires the completion of four workshops prior to the child's
graduation from the sixth grade and shall be a requirement for
advancement to the seventh grade you've got to go to the workshop
where I won't graduate
wow this is sad sad it's also annoying they Sharon
makes you not want to have kids. Maybe that's the point.
I could be have a couple of oddball clips. I do have a one
just because I know you've got a bunch of stuff left. But I do
have a little entre Mall.
Oh, and I'll draw that's the little thing that the little
thing the chef has prepared specifically for You to cleanse
your palate in between yes, it comes in a little shot glass and
you'd be you can
usually you don't know why they're just gonna give you a
shot at something that'd be great.
I don't know if you should drink it or are you spoon it you never
quite hands Yeah,
they usually they usually there's instructions that come
with the entre ma i always like
the chef ends up the chef has prepared this for you especially
now we haven't you got a whole fucking thing you did earlier on
bullshit me with that?
Yeah, I know I hate that by the way. I will always want to throw
it in the waiters face when they say when they lie to me and be
lying to me and by the
way I've had a lot of lie I've had a lot of success in Austin
with my 142 degrees what temperature would you like your
meat sir? 142 degrees 60
I forgot about I think I'm going to try it has
someone asked you this yet or you haven't
been no no and the West Coast they still don't how would you
like it done they've not asked what temperature
in Los Angeles Texas thing No it's Los Angeles is where I
heard this first. Oh really? Yes as well.
It has gravitated up here with thank god that's why we gave you
the Fukushima ratty right here that I'm going to spit it the
guy in and throw my napkin down and walk out
okay
so this is a new segment I want to see maybe you won't like it
you're always I try these new segments all the time trying to
keep the show fresh living show fresh fresh. I always try to
keep the show a living fresh living show. And this one is
going to be this new segments called guests the movie and you
have to guess the movie because I know you're a great movie
buff.
Okay, Seymour butts 30 No, no, you guessed it I've got a clip I
get oh I'm sorry I guess all right guess the movie. And now I
see the clip is 40 seconds with it now are you gonna give me any
frame of reference?
No. Okay everyone's just such a classic clip that you'll guess
it immediate everyone be quiet I have to concentrate now. Top Gun
this play the clip then guess
Wait, wait, this is much better. I care ozone magic mixture. Let
me help you What do you think you're doing? Covering your
wound? My wound is lower. We don't
want infection to spread. Bread your head open. This is what the
world has come to get try to help somebody. And what do you
get instead? Thanks. Threats
okay. This is a dumb segment. Because I haven't given a
guess or not.
I have no idea I have known in
the destroyer starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. All right.
That's more of a movie buff.
Not at all. Oh, what did they think that I don't know. I don't
know. Anything about movies?
Oh, okay, well, that's okay. Well Can the segment. I mean, I
can
do that for your movie, but you're the movie buff. You're
just setting this up for it when I'm dead. Oh, you have a
segment,
I'll be talking about movies. The movies the other day
as John C. Dvorak said movie time, everybody liked that
movie.
Okay, a couple things here. We two received an email from
Target. Of course we were, we were part of the attack and had
all our cards reissued. Mickey got like a whole bunch of stuff
going on. And she received the email from Target, which I'm
sure you've seen. Have you seen this email you've heard of I
have
not seen the email since I was not a targeted targeted by?
Well, it's interesting because a lot of people who never even
shopped at Target received this email and the email essentially
says, we're going to get it please click here to sign up for
a free year of consumer protection. Consumer Credit
Protection
wasn't a scam email well,
so Mickey says, Oh, I got this email. It looks like a scam
because it's it says Target dot o bi zero.com or something. I'm
like, Oh, that's a scam. And I Googled around that. It turns
out they hired a marketing company to send out this email.
But more egregious when people Yeah, its target dot BFI
zero.com Target news at Target dot BFI zero.com. So people
started investigating? Yes, it turns out, oh, yes, no, this is
this is this is legit. And people are saying, well hold on
a second. I've never shopped it at Target, how'd you get my
email address? Oh, well, we just we just do this as normal course
of business. And some evidence points to Amazon selling their
email addresses to this marketing company, which is
egregious. And
never got one of these letters, though, it still might
come. But more interesting, if you then click around and go
through kind of the path because they want to, they want you to
sign up to experience. There's basically three credit agencies,
Experian is the one they're promoting. And immediately I got
all kinds of other emails from other companies. Oh, no, no, you
Oh, you have to you definitely should be using us. And I just
looked at Experian their vision, their vision statement on their
website. Yeah. Our vision is for experienced people, data and
technology to become a necessary part of every major consumer
economy in the world. Oh, God. And this is why I'm just opting
out. I'm not doing it. I'm cash. I'm debit card screwed. I'm not
being a part of your stupid ass system, which the President
promotes. Very, very, very, very bad. So here's so here's a
question for you then. To the banks don't seem to care about
this.
No, they don't care because they got it covered. And you're
always harping on how JP Morgan has no problem coming up with
$20 billion in fines. Right. Okay. Now, let me ask you a
question. So if you're JP Morgan, right, and you got this,
you got these computers and everything. And, and I really,
this is a real, it may sound weird, this is a very serious
question. And the government says, Alright, you got to give
us $20 billion in fines. Now, is it inconceivable that they just
send an email with a number with 20 million on it and say, Here
you go. Because you know, then that no one actually took a
truck of money? And said, Here it is? Where show who actually
controls this this money? Before you answer? Is it not
conceivable? The banks are in? That's a one big joke, and they
just like, I'll just put it we'll just send this email. Or,
you know, hey, what's your this Paul? What? What's your name?
Mike Rogers? Oh, we see you have $100,000. In your account, we
just added a zero, you now have a million? Is that not possible?
I mean, I wish they would who? I mean, who tracks that? Who in
the world tracks the numbers? Because seriously, I have, let's
say I have $5,000 in my bank account. It seems pretty easy.
If I knew the guy well enough, the chase guy, he could just add
a zero to that. Who would know where where does this somewhere
at the Treasury does an alarm bell go off? How does that work?
It's
all double entry accounting at some level even on the computer
level. So if you put the put a zero on things, it's not going
to balance the books aren't gonna balance and someone's
going to find that zero. That's the So you're
telling me you're telling me that all these banks, all these
electronic systems all come come into into the Federal Reserve, I
guess. And or the Treasury? Where is it? Is it both? And
there's so at the end of the day, there's a guy there with a
green visor and says, yep, equal numbers on both sides, boss good
deals. Yeah. You can't answer. I know you can't. Because I
know I don't know if guys, if I knew how the whole thing
actually worked. That's why I think how it idealistically
works. I don't know what's really going on. Because I don't
know who does. But it's not they're not doing that. No, but
what's not just drawing money away.
But what's interesting is, and this kind of calls back to the
beginning of the show, the way it's spoken about is the Feds
discount window. You know, like, like the like, like, Jamie Dimon
is driving his his Lexus, up to the Federal Reserve rolls down
the window. Hey, got any money for me? And then like a big bag
is handed out? Isn't that the way to make it? Yeah, why
not? You mentioned that sounds a little like that, because
there's a window involved,
or the Federal Reserve is printing money. Oh, they're not.
Now they're not printing money. So I was just curious in the big
system.
I mean, it's something that we should probably try to
understand a little better than we do. And I don't think maybe
there's somebody out there who's got a deep understanding that
could just sit, sit us down and lecture us for a couple of hours
or draw some stuff on a whiteboard and show us how this
works. But yeah, no, we don't know.
Wouldn't Wouldn't it be funny if everyone let's just presume
everyone has a system? We trust it? We trust? So everyone's in
on the game. And then everyone's like, look at that asshole,
Jamie Dimon to people are gonna find out man stop, stop putting
zeros behind everything. Stop sending the emails with the big
zeros because people are gonna find out it's just fake.
It's well, it's fake. It seems to be working.
It used to be backed by gold. I understand. And you could say
How much gold do you have? Well, this is how much gold I have
there for you have this much money kind of more or less that
one away? has been gone for a long time. So I just question I
just wonder. Yeah, I mean, it's uh, I always get these offers.
If you this cracks me up by the way. Chase sends me an offer. If
I put $15,000 in new money into an account presumably that I
have in my mattress? They will give me a check for $175 Right.
And and so the first thing is like who do you think I am? What
marketing genius told you that I have $15,000 laying around the
house because I send this offer all the time. And to tell if
they're going to add that to their computer where does it get
subtracted from
it's just part of their their normal expenses as an expense
probably. Like any other bookkeeping is done in any
company. You put your 15,000 in their bank and they give you in
a pull they have this marketing budget and they give you 175 Not
oh no I'm sorry. Not that so the 15,000 It came from somewhere
yeah, your other bank account so
yeah, but to that bank account is going to where do they report
this in? Hey, we got his 15 Hey, we lost his 15 Where does it get
reported into? You understand my question? Yeah, the
electronic funds system is the electronic funds system okay,
generally speaking, they're gonna give you a check and then
you're going to take the check over there you're not gonna it's
not gonna go over EFT? Can I walk to one bank and do it by
hand you're gonna get a check for the money you could cash the
check and take cash over to them.
I'm just I'm just wondering if someone's really tracking all
this stuff. That's all I have a feeling that's not true. They
are I have a feeling is not being tracked. And it's a big
joke and we're not in on it.
Well, it would be nice if it was a big Joker, we'd get a few
zeros added to our accounts, but that's not I don't see any
evidence that it is. And if if it's happening, we're definitely
not in on it. Let's go back to Fukushima.
Really, well, you weren't done.
No, I gotta do different stuff. There's a different report just
came from the sorry, this is not an AMI watch. This is about this
is just an interesting human interest or pig interest, I
guess. Thing about what's going on with the high bred pigs in
Fukushima.
Next, radiation tainted soil buildings left exposed to the
elements. areas within the evacuation zone of Japan's
Fukushima Prefecture face countless challenges in trying
to reestablish themselves. People who lived in places where
the contamination is relatively low are hoping to return within
a few years. But they now face another impediment. While
they've been gone hybrids of wild boars and have been moving
in.
former residents of Tomioka have been cleared to spend the
daylight hours in their town. But they've got company a wait
a minute, this this guy is in the read this is not a news gig.
He's doing the he's doing like the the documentary for like the
Sesame Street News.
And they've got company.
Hybrid pigs roam freely throughout the area. Unlike wild
boars, they are not weary of humans. They don't run away even
if people approach them. That also means they're not shy about
making themselves at home. I'm here to tell you this man has
been returning to his home from time to time in hopes of
eventually moving back permanently. One day he found
his house had turned into a pigsty closed the doors but they
opened them and walk around with muddy feet. The pigs ate all the
sugar and salt he had stored on his porch. They didn't stop
there, or anything else that was edible. They got to including
cooking oil. It's wild boars do not enter homes. They hate the
smell of human hybrid pigs are different. Our smell makes them
happy.
I can't get it. I can't get one voice over commercial yet this
guy is doing this gig.
The hybrid pigs human smell makes them happy. If you want
just a little background a little short bit here's the
hybrid pig Story number two, which is give some people some
feeling about what's going on with these pigs.
In Japan, hybrid pigs are raised for meat. They are the offspring
of male wild boars and female domestic pigs. We their meat is
said to be less fatty than that of ordinary pigs and to smell
less. Like wild boars the hybrids have ravenous appetites,
they eat all types of food including plants and meat. But
on the other hand, they resemble domestic pigs and their lack of
fear of humans. So they're not shy about breaking and entering
human a vote
even as humans are required to stay away for the most part the
hybrid animal population is multiply I don't
understand this our smell makes them happy business what is
going on with that? I
have no idea what that's all about. I really don't understand
he's just the other thing. If this was happening here, we just
shoot the thing. Yeah. But no, they can't shoot anything. They
don't even got a bow and arrow I mean it's like that the whole
one guy's house has been ruined by these pigs and he can't do
shit about it he can't get him to leave them can't kick them
you know I've been saving this clip for maybe a week and a half
and it ties into your your Fukushima reporting. This is
from World Radio Japan news. I love listening to other
countries world news because firstly, it's in English but
then you do get some local reporting. You know there's some
propaganda in there. But this may explain I don't if it
explains the hybrid pigs. But it may explain Amy going into try
and wreak havoc and make everybody afraid
Japan's government has approved a 10 year business plan from
Tokyo Electric Power Company that relies on restarting
nuclear reactors to turn its business around you say
we can't have that we gotta get our gas over there people we
can't have that we can't have interesting
report on star we know from experts at two of the reactors
are fine. While here we go Industry Minister
Toshimitsu Motegi on Wednesday gave approval of the plan to
TEPCO precedent now me Hilsa lien utility was effectively put
under state control after the 2011 nuclear crisis. And it's
because Shema Daiichi plant,
and we're not pronouncing right to humour datasheet that you're
not pronouncing it right Shima. Try it Shima.
The chairman of the steering committee for the state bank
fund for nuclear accident compensation, Akio Hanada, was
also present. Under the plan TEPCO hopes to begin restarting
reactors in stages. And it's Kashiwazaki kuti well planned in
Niigata Prefecture from July. The utility envisions earning an
annual preach Tax profit of between $950,000,001.4 billion
by resuming nuclear power generation and rebuilding ageing
thermal power plants. The utility says it will then
gradually lower electricity fees by up to $9.6 billion annually.
Over the following decade, the firm plans to set aside $19
billion to create a task force to deal with contaminated water
and to dismantle reactors at the Fukushima plant. The business
plan also says profits from sales of TEPCO shares held by a
state backed compensation fund will be used for decontamination
efforts. But utility plans to close all 10 of its branches in
its service area, and to reduce its group workforce by 2000
employees. Tepco says these efforts will cut costs by about
$46 billion helping the company become a competitive business
competitive against our gas.
Yeah, that's a great report. I didn't know that that Yeah,
Mike. Well,
it's an okay report because wow, how boring do they make radio
over there?
That's really Yeah, I couldn't be any dollar. That's true. It's
pretty bad. I got a book do you still write from MarketWatch?
No, I stopped writing from MarketWatch they changed all
everybody laughed all the good editors. And they Oh, yeah.
Okay, left some nut balls in there. And they got
off. What's this Business Insider publication? Are you
familiar with the Business Insider? Yeah,
that's what's his name? His operation? Who does that? You
know, that guy. Oh, that guy. I don't keep it No, no, I can't
remember here. I didn't get his name.
Business in it. I liked the name, by the way, I think I
think it's a good
guy. He's very well, very well. A good name. It's well executed.
Let's put it that way.
Okay. So here's this. This is, I just want to point out how some
things work sometimes to this important because it says Sunday
and this you know, there's a lot of technology news and stuff and
I want to just show people how this works. So I get a lot of
emails from people with the following headline. Hackers have
used the refrigerator. And, and these hackers apparently have
users and Ars Technica, everyone's reporting this when
the and it happened between December 23, January 6, and I'm
like, what, what is going on? You know, where can I find out
more about this? I did what we call journalism, which is
basically just looked at looked into it. Yeah. And so it comes
from a GI okay. The hairball. It comes from a press release,
which is posted on MarketWatch from the company Proofpoint Inc.
to not hear it now. So here we have business insider.com, Ars
Technica, all talking about this, oh, it's the Internet of
Things, the Internet of Things is attacking you the internet of
things. And you go look at these guys proofpoint.com who
essentially sell some kind of secure email products. And so
Proofpoint research Internet of Things, IoT cyber attack
security. In January 2014, Proofpoint researchers
discovered proof of a much theorised but never before seen
Internet of Things cyber attack. Proofpoint has observed that we
believe to be an industry first of devices, including some home
appliances, TVs, and a refrigerator sending malicious
email spam. And they go on to they have nothing they don't
even have a one page. They don't have a report. They don't have a
white paper. all they've got is links to their product, which is
the proof point, next generation email product. And they're
claiming that A more detailed examination suggested While a
majority of mail was initiated by expected Internet of Things
devices IoT, such as compromise home networking devices, routers
and network
you're telling me this ran as a press release on Market Watch.
Yes. And this bullcrap story ran on MarketWatch just a straight
up press release on edited
Yes. Wow. Yes. And it was but it was worse. It's picked up by Ars
Technica, which is the Bible for most technology shows as oh my
god, the Internet of Things is being attacked. And they had
nothing they just they have nothing all they it's just a
press release. And they have no report. They have no evidence no
no paper on their research. They're just saying we did
research. Here's what we discovered nothing thing.
Proof said they didn't even show anything. Nothing. It wasn't
even a PowerPoint deck,
but no. And then here at the bottom of their page, Proofpoint
targeted attack protection trademark represents the
industry's first comprehensive solution for combating targeted
threats using a full lifecycle approach, monitoring suspicious
messages as they come in and observing user clicks as they
attempt to reach out by using big data analysis techniques and
the cloud architecture. Proofpoint can identify oh my
god, I could have written this Proofpoint can identify
suspicious messages, even if that message is something
like this. And some other thing recently in one of the shows
another crock of crap. I think it was on the Business Insider.
It sounds like the same guy wrote it
doesn't have a there's no name on this. I
don't know. No, no. Press releases never have a name
except they've put some contact name.
I what I would like everyone to do a lot of people. We have a
lot of sis admins, a lot of people listen to this stuff. Pay
attention to how the story is going to the refrigerator that
attacked Okay, the Internet of Things, Attack of the
refrigerator and put it in the Red Book, I guarantee you a
senator or a congressman will use this story for some bullshit
legislation. And this is the Genesis red book. And then a new
Red Book beautiful,
beautiful, actually led. I hate to say this leather bound. It's
leather bound, but it's made out of black leather. So I have to
just it's just called the Red Book now.
It's not actually it's not actually red anymore. It's not
very official.
It's like one hour cleaners.
So I did want to just say we have a sysadmin who emailed us
and he says oh, I'm a sysadmin I just want you to understand what
a lot of this is coming down to when it comes to the target
credit hack. All the all this cyber crap he says follow the
money. This is the it's called PCI DSS did you get this email?
No, what's it called again? PCI DSS Payment Card Industry Data
Security Standard. Okay, this is what it comes down to gents in
the morning, longtime listener here in East Texas. It's a
little hard to hit people in the mouth and he's Texas, the two
strongly in the Republican camp the change but I do what I can.
I wanted it comes as no surprise to see the target game as an
industry move to impose PCI DSS you will be forced to comply
with this which you don't have to at the moment but just watch
now he explains what happened to he has a a group that does some
camping things think it's a church group. He says here's
what happened to us in order to even get a payment processor,
and that PCI DSS is it's basically run by the payment
processors but the banks and the credit card companies, so they
hit you per transaction to maximise the hurt I work at this
company is Texas, we're going through PCI compliance. Here's
how the money is made. It costs us 15,000 To have a guy fly out
to tell us what we needed to do. Then they run a pen test to pick
apart your firewall, the whole thing is set up so they can push
you to their vendor partners to fill in the gaps cost us 10,000
To get PCI compliant card readers that encrypt the pan
data at the point of swiping the card readers only work with
certain processors so we had to get a new processor to use them.
Their logging and reporting tools that set us back another
45,000 Then firewall and switching upgrades at his for
another 20,000. And now we have endless documentation to keep up
the ridiculous policies that we have to adhere though it here
too. Then we get to do the gap assessment and pen test every
year. It only gets worse as you take in more money and the
number of transactions go up. I believe they see the money to be
made and want to make PCI mandatory by law. There are
major companies that just pay the fines because the fines are
cheaper than the cost of becoming compliant. And if you
look at the PCI DSS organisation website, which is PCI security
standards.org. It tells you why you should comply with PCI
Security Standards. But let's just look at what happens if you
are not compliant. If you are not compliant, it could be
disastrous. possible negative consequences also include
lawsuits insurance claims cancelled accounts, payment card
issuer fines and government fines. So this is this is it PCI
DSS
Ah, it is a great fine you can use this will follow this
closely. I think you're dead on it's one of these things you
create. I've seen this. This is a type of marketing by the way.
The way it works is that if you create a product that would
include information that would keep you out of trouble and you
don't use the product and you get in trouble. The people
putting you in trouble. In other words, if people suing you will
point to your or product and ask them why they're not using that.
It's actually reminds it this was some accounting stuff. He
created a disc that had all the accounting suits or something,
some crazy budget data. And he realised that what he'd had it
was a marketing guy that was one of the greatest I've ever met.
He said that once this thing was finished, you had to buy it.
Because if you didn't have it, you would get sued, because
you're not having it. Exactly. And that's what the sounds like.
This sounds like the exact same scheme.
Well, I think our producer, our sysadmin producer, who I
specifically left his name and his organisation out, he's the
one that turned me on to the PCI DSS I put like, 567 links in the
show notes. So you can read up on it, but it seems like a like
a shoo in. Seems like you know, let's just listen money. He's
got the little little church group
some way to invest in anything having to do with this PCI DSS.
Well
ask it Horowitz.
I'm going to now put him on that track. We'll probably have a
couple good stock picks on the next good, good, good, good.
I've been promising Turkey stuff. I have one tooth, I have
like 15 links, I found a great new resource, an online resource
for Turkey and Turkish information. I'm having dinner
Monday with one of our producers here whose way into this. Of
course, we have our producer who speaks and reads Turkish and
he's so I'm really all over it. But something changed, something
happened. So far, we kind of have two theories, either one,
air two, one and the Gulen Movement, are working together
to create some controversy so that everyone can be certain of
reelection and clamping down or we have the CIA and the American
intelligence agencies who are protecting the the now
opposition to the Erdogan government, and are doing what
we typically do which is create a ruckus, have stuff explode,
people get angry protests in the street and then you know, we got
to kick one guy out and bring our guy in, which would probably
be a girl earnest, someone from the Gulag camp. And something
new happened besides the the Turkish Lira, hitting a new low
against the dollar. So the the financial crisis is in place. We
wanted that and all of a sudden we have people it's not reported
on you're not gonna see it on CNN. Unless Justin Bieber is in
Turkey. There are no protests against a quote, draconian
internet bill.
Oh, yeah, yeah, this is the big news. That was on all the
alternative media.
So that means Turkish spring. Yeah, seriously, think about it.
Yeah, that's exactly what you want. You want people on the
street? Well, you can't do away with internet freedoms. Oh, no,
that's and you know, what's the what's the douchebag from NPR?
Who did the tweet Garvin and Randy Karvan. Oh, I'm tweeting
with Turkey now and retweeting turkey or they're trying to shut
down the internet. Well, Facebook can't use Facebook. Oh,
yeah, there'll be an internet in a box internet.
Internet in a box. What else?
We can just I guess it's internet and a suitcase is what
they call it. Yeah. Well,
yeah. Internet in a suitcase. We'll have we're gonna have some
superstar who's retweeted by Randy Randy Randy Andy Carvin.
Yeah, no, you're right. It sounds like it's a fractal.
Hold on a second. Hold on a second. The fractal it's Yeah,
well, it's a big fractal. I don't even know what we haven't
used the fractal thing and so long I don't know what the
fractal jingle is.
Yeah, it sounded kind of like that. I was also just going to
call Hey, CNN get pooper over to Turkey. We'll do Anderson.
Anderson Cooper to Turkey Anderson Cooper to Turkey. Get
on the square buddy. Get get into Istanbul. Time to go Don't
Cross That River. They don't like your kind on the other side
of the river son. You know, like your card over there. Why am I
doing this southern accent when I'm talking about homosexuals.
Getting a ticket slight Texas accent sounds good.
I'm trying I'm really trying. Let's just listen and you'll get
it. I can do my own or modify it by talking through your teeth.
Alright, so don't listen to me go. This is how we do it here in
Austin. In Austin. By the way, the guys who were protesting the
during the hunger strike against fluoridation of Austin's water.
Yeah, they're gone.
Oh, they got paid off finally.
They might have been I don't know. They've just I thought
they were gonna go for at least a month they said and they were
just gone. Day 14 gone. I don't know. They I don't know if they
died of hunger. Or if they were picked up or paid off. I don't
know. I don't know. Very
I have one final clip. All right. kinda interesting. Just I
just because his little rant involved all right. Play the
clip Egypt vote yes.
Egypt votes yes.
A resounding yes. 98% of voters in Egypt give the thumbs up to
the country's new constitution which will replace the charter
adopted under the house of the President Mohamed Morsi.
Okay, just for all the people out there live in places like
Egypt, there is no such thing as 98% vote yes. If everybody
agreed to it, more than 2% would vote Gnosis out of some crackpot
idea. It's impossible. Every time you hear 98% Vote yes, or
98%. Anything. It's that doesn't mean all it means is that this
was a corrupt vote.
Well, I don't understand. 98% of scientists agree on climate
change. Yes. Another
example. I mean, there's impossible to put you can put 10
people is LSA 100 People that all agree on something in a room
to vote on it. And numerous members of that group will vote
no. Just the way it is. And this is the show. I just thought that
okay, this is going to be interesting. So in other words,
you've taken over the place. Anyway, got nothing. I got other
stuff we move into. I got out there. So
I got some great agenda 21 stuff for Thursday.
They're talking reunification in Korea. Yeah. Not being reported
here. Interesting. Where's it being reported? It's being
reported in South Korea.
Interesting. reunification. Yeah. Or worst nightmare. Yeah.
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