I know I'm always confused. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. I'm
sorry. Sorry. What was that
was a mistake. I messed it up nine. Give me another cue.
Jen nine hit it. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Sunday, January 12 2014. Time for your Gitmo nation media
assassination, episode five, eight. This is no agenda in over
here when I look over there and see what region six he had the
travel sites. I'm Austin, Texas in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where we're looking at nowhere,
I'm John C. Dvorak. keel.
Telling me to look over here there somewhere else never never
looked at it.
We started looking for stuff for another what, two weeks? Oh, for
the six week
cycle? You mean?
Yeah, that's coming out. Well, no, it's I'm not either way.
totally convinced it's gonna be an Indianapolis. Okay. Well,
do you recall one of your predictions for 2014? No. The
end of the six week cycle?
Oh, yeah. All right. Well, I
think your prediction is going to come true sooner than you
expected, my friend. Oh, yeah. We've been busted.
Well, we've been busted by a bunch of people. Well, this is
this is our producer, Matt. He sent me a note he said in the
morning, this is my this morning, my 16 month old woke me
up at 5:40am to clean his shirt filled diaper. The only thing
worth watching on TV was C span. I was only able to get through
on the Republican line. Have you seen or heard his outstanding PR
moment for the no agenda show? Yeah, it was great. Good.
Here's Matt from Reno, Nevada, Republican line. Hello.
In the morning, I was calling a watcher of C span and also a
listener of the show called no agenda. With Adam curry and John
C. Dvorak.
Right there. Great. Great. It's about time finally finally bring
up by the way, Matt was calling and the guest on the Washington
journal for the call in show was the president of the FBI Agents
Association, which I think is kind of like a drinking club may
be John is that sounds like or
it's probably a combination drinking club and union lobbying
operation. Okay.
And this guy was very interesting, particularly his
answer to to Matt's question, which I'll play without further
interruption. I'm a
watcher of C span and also a listener of the show called no
agenda. With Adam curry, and John C. Dvorak, a, they bring up
an interesting point a lot in their deconstruction of the
media, and also what's sort of going on with our FBI and our
federal agencies.
The guy by the way, he's looking at the camera like, what,
what. And they bring up a good point of every six weeks, almost
to the to the week, or on the dot, there's some type of FBI
sort of bus that goes down. And it's been explained to that it's
possibly, you know, a cycle that they like to have, because
otherwise, you can't really keep the American people scared.
When When, when he mentioned the six weeks, the FBI guy, he, he
scrambled at all? There was there was no, there's some
subtle movement of his body language shifted just ever so
slightly.
I was just wondering what your comments were on that? And also,
is it is it legal to sort of entrap people with, like those
guys in Ohio who didn't have the capability, capability or means
to actually detonate or set up a bomb on a bridge, but were
arrested and thrown in jail. And the last one is actually just
trying to fight for his life. And
so, here's what I would recommend for Matt and but good
job. By the way, Matt. That was a complicated example. It
probably would have been better if you said, you know, that guy
that you hounded for two months and set him up with fake
explosives and then made him go to the Wichita airport. It would
have been a little easier, more recent example. I think a lot of
people have forgotten about the bridge example. But anyway,
let's listen. Because I think the FBI agent or the president
of the Agents Association, kind of confirmed it. Caller we'll
leave it there, Mr. Ricci.
The FBI investigates 1000s of cases. With with the proper
media attention to those cases. We like to show the American
people what it is that we do to keep them safe. And also
we didn't he just agree. Yeah. Didn't he just say, yeah, we'd
like you to know that we're keeping you safe. She doesn't
try to show criminals and terrorists that we the FBI are
out there.
We're boss.
I'm not aware of any six week cycle that you're talking about.
And I'm not aware of the facts of your case. All that I'll say
is the individuals that you referenced, were brought through
a very, very regimented legal process, with a strict adherence
to the Constitution, United States of America, and a jury of
their peers will decide whether they did what they're accused of
doing.
Wow. Good job, Matt. Excellent. Excellent.
Yeah. Well, maybe you're right, maybe six weeks I go be canned
in favour of something a little. You know what they need to do as
an offset cycle for a four seven, you can't go too far
because you can't go too long past six weeks. I think that's,
I think Matt kind of hit it, which is our thesis, which is
you can't the American public starts to relax. Yeah, exactly.
So you got to keep them tense and on edge so they could do but
did they start to forget the other one is you know, the six
is up is the magic number. I don't know what they're going to
do about well just say screw food. Listen to those idiots.
That's probably
what's going on right now. Hey, boss. I got this call about the
six week cycle. And who is it? I don't know. We talked about some
dude.
Some guys. We looked at adverts a stupid podcast.
It's a podcast.
Podcast. You're concerned about anything a podcasters are doing.
You an idiot
like this? Did they win any of the Podcast Awards? No. Oh, oh,
please. Those guys can't be taken seriously then.
They're nuts. In San Francisco, I'm going up Gary Street and
then two lanes over. I hear it a lot in a loud voice. I TM Yeah,
of course. And I look over and it's a guy. It's a cabbie.
Oh, really? That's cool. Oh, wait, that was it. Was it Tony
the terrorist maybe?
I don't think so. I couldn't see him. He was way over it. He
spotted me somehow. Maybe he was following me whatever he's
fallen. And the San Francisco cab companies on the site here
all those big giant yellow cabs. It says it has their phone
number 333 Dash 333 Yeah, what does that tell you? So anyway,
so he took off? I gave a thumbs up
that's fine. Were you in the in the Acura? Acura.
I was in the old Lexus.
Oh, I'm sorry. Accurate Lexus? Yeah.
Why do you think an accurate? I don't know. I'm not a Honda
person.
Well, what is Lexus? Lexus? Is Toyota? Yeah, yeah. As good car.
How old is it?
was 21 years old? Yeah.
I was thinking the other day. I said, Mickey always thinks her
car is dangerous because, well, it is dangerous. It's a
cardboard box with a Corvette engine. Because, you know, it's
meant to have children or, you know, I don't know, stuff in the
back. So it's the ford expedition. Yeah. So if it's
just her, and it's a little wet. Yeah. You know, she's just slip
up with it over. Yeah. Go easy on the corner. But I said this
is a good car, you know, and but it's 2005. It's, it's, it's now
nine years old. Yeah. Wow. It's getting
well, here's the weird thing about this old Lexus. There has
not been one tail light headlight interior light route
hasn't been one bulb that is burned. 21 years. Wow. That's
it. When I see it. I just did it. They just obviously they can
make bulbs that lasts forever if they want to. Yeah, well, we
I just replaced a couple bulbs in the kitchen. And it's these
for 38 watts. God knows what it is what it says on the box. 1000
hours of what is that? Yeah, that says right. I've got 1000
hours. It blows up in 1000. No, no blows up around 900.
Well, what are you going to do about it?
Yeah, anyway, so that really made my day when I heard that.
And it just goes to show that it can be done.
Yeah, here's what's gonna hit you. They probably won't drop
the cycle because it would go I think I did. Our fake
conversation was probably pretty accurate. And the other thing
is, it's working, you know, they got one or two guys. It's made
noise. What difference does it make? The public doesn't care
that big media doesn't do anything. They're just gonna
keep lapping this stuff up. Yeah, that's true. But I still
think Indianapolis if we had that that message from Pelle
bought the guy in Indianapolis shovelling snow that was the
Mexican in Indianapolis Yeah. The Mexican in Indianapolis the
years
away but this is new. You didn't tell me you thought that. The
last I recall. The so the six week cycle which would kick in
around February 1 or second, you were saying possibly Superbowl.
It would be even better because it's at the Meadowlands, which
is New Jersey. It's right near near New York. That that Well, I
know I've actually specifically said that. I don't believe they
went to that because it would, it would hurt business. You
can't hurt business. I agree. You just want to terrorise the
public.
Remind them, remind them who's boss.
Now Indianapolis came up in that report from Scott Pelley where
he said, This guy in Indianapolis is shovelling snow,
and it had nothing to do with the report or anything else. And
it specifically was Indianapolis. And so then I'm
watching the PBS show and they have changed. They have this I
was watching the end is only the BBC America, they have this
little ending where they show this kind of a weird globe and
it's kind of just, it's kind of made out of ribbon, and it's
kind of spinning and there's a little cities coming floating
around on the screen. And then they cut away they cut away and
the thing reappeared. And Indianapolis came out into the
middle of the screaming screen and slid off to the left. Really
Yeah. Now if anybody's watched this series Rubicon Yeah, you
would this is the kind of thing that is like, it's just code is
this is that I mean, we don't know anything about how about 33
even works but we do notice these things. And this crazy
report where this guy's from Indianapolis and I'm seeing
Indian that why Indianapolis we come out of this BBC logo is
beyond me. But I'm say suspecting that Indianapolis has
got something something's going to happen in Indianapolis.
Okay, let's go to places and I mean, come on. It'll American
Wichita, Kansas, and if that's where they're going for, they
might as well do Indianapolis.
Yeah. Hey, necklaces got a little more going for it in
Wichita. Yeah, I'll have to agree. I'd much
but no, no, I've been to both places. And I would have to
agree Indianapolis is has a lot more going for it. But they've
got to hurry up because you know, here's an ask John, can
you tell me what this is?
Any ideas?
I will suspect that's a food riot.
Very close. It is a riot. It is indoors. There are things being
thrown but not food, laptops, water. Shoes. That is the
Turkish parliament last week. Where the fisticuffs, were there
are people jumping up on chairs and jumping down on people? This
is Turkish parliament?
Yeah. Did you see this in the Taiwanese parliament? Yeah, but
now
it's happening in Turkey. There's 20,000 People protested
on the streets of Ankara yesterday. I'm sorry, you didn't
see that on CNN Gee, I wonder. And what is taking place as we
I've been keeping keeping my eye very closely on what's happening
in Turkey, it being the gateway from for Russia and China, for
Russia, for gas for China for the trans Eurasian rail system,
high speed rail. Of course, there's all kinds of competing
interests. There is now talk of, and I found this interesting.
Erawan is now being accused of trying to stage a civilian coup,
which I don't quite understand how you can stage a civilian
coup. I thought a coup was the kind of had to have the army
involved. I think a coup was a coup. Well, he's already in
charge. This is what's interesting, what's
not getting what you need to do. I'm taking over from myself.
Yeah, well, punched himself in the nose.
started December 17. Investigation into corrupt
practices of many Turkish bureaucrats, ministers mayors,
was started by the Justice Department, which and I think
we've talked about this before, is run by a lot of Gulenist. I
should pronounce that properly. Gu Leninists. Who were educated
in the Gulin schools run by for Tula Gulin. This is the imam who
has is in self imposed exile in in his compound in Pennsylvania,
in the Poconos Yeah, and runs all of the Gulin schools, the
harmony schools, in over 160 countries in the Gulin has also
run the largest newspaper, in in Turkey. And so what they found
was millions of equivalent of dollars, but Of course it was
Turkish Lira millions and shoe boxes stuck in in some of these
member of Parliament's closets and people have been arrested
and and this is there's a takeover taking place and now
you have this organised protest because whenever you see 20,000
People with identical flags all nicely on poles and stuff. Yeah,
that's that yeah, that's that's an organised protest. And you
know, the only thing that I think you and I really agree on
here is Rubble is coming.
Well, Turkey, it would be a real dive making turkey into rubble
is going to be not easy. But I don't know what the advantage
what why we want to do it.
It just depends on what part
well, yeah, you could do it to the to the eastern part of
Turkey, which is where the Kurds are in I keep looking at this
day to keep doing this Iraqi Iraqi thing and
northern Iraq the Kurds you mean well, I'm
no I do stuff that's going on in the country as a whole. And now
I'm noticing every time they show a picture of Iraq on the
any of these TV shows, they always have the that one Anwar
province as a separate colour. Oh, really? Yeah. Always,
always. And then there's and then there's greater Turkey, or
I'm sorry, greater Iraq, and then you have this this
province. And I believe they're going to try to divide that
country up into at least three separate countries, because
there's no way that this is going to continue the way it's
going so that it's not naturally that big country anyway, it's a
natural.
I've really been trying to understand the entire region. I
don't think people like us, you and I, John, who were born and
raised in the West, I don't think we are equipped to really
understand the true culture. And these are all made up countries.
I mean, you know, Iraq, Iran, Syria, none of this existed. You
know, there was just, you know, we after was this after, it was
this 1918 In Paris when we said oh, let's make up some let's
draw some lines here. Was that 19 1219 It was right after the
war, right after the after the Great War, the First World War.
We just drew up some lines now here it is. And this will just
have to do. But it seems like the in a lot of people who have
who are from Turkey have been emailing me. I've been talking
to journalists who are working on expos, as of the Google the
Gulin is movement. By the way, I looked at I pulled out a form
990 of the cosmos Foundation. The cosmos foundation runs the
harmony schools, which are the you know, they're all over
Texas, but they're all over the United States. You know, they
received in grant just this one Gulin related organisation in
2012. I'll get you the exact number. I'm pulling up the form
here. Their income from government grants, was
$168,372,729. From government grants from our own government.
What does that tell you?
Yeah, and it's all these charter schools. I guess what if you
started Charter School? The government gives you money? Is
that how it works?
Not that I know of but I guess it is how
well they're getting summed and then there's all these
government bonds, which have another $50 million that you
know, that they participate in. Anyway, total assets but just
this one, nonprofit organisation $308 million, dude. Oh, you only
got a skin 10% and you can print up some nice signs in Ankara.
You know, this is for sin. Wow. Yeah.
I mean, it's it's really quite and this is just one of the many
organisations this thing is so deep and just wise is and it's
all a taxpayer money. There must be at least half a billion a
year of taxpayer money going into this outfit. And here's air
to Juan's. Everyone's quote. He, of course, the prime minister of
Turkey, he says this is a conspiracy, the United States
and Israel are behind it. That is fighting war words right
there, I'd say. And of course, he couldn't be right. All I know
is that you know, we are scheduled to connect the Nobuko
pipe Nabucco pipeline, which is Hillary Clinton's work from
Azerbaijan from Baku. And Azerbaijan of course has a huge
natural gas resources that the pipeline runs through Tbilisi,
which is Georgia where the the crazy tie eaten nut job was. And
then it goes right through Turkey and all the way into
Austria into Europe to feed anything but Russian gas. And
you know this there's a lot going on and then you have the
religious, the of the two religious factions the way I'm
understanding it. The of course the you have the Shiites and the
Sunnis and there's a big movement to bringing back the
Khalif the caliphate, the Ottoman Empire.
Yeah, that's kind of pathetic. Yeah.
But you know, it's stuff that I can't even fathom it other than
looking historically understanding how big the
Ottoman Empire was in Constantinople was the centre of
the known universe at the time?
Is that a song I should recognise? Yeah,
yeah, it's got the word Constantinople.
So something, something is brewing. And I guess what will
be interesting to see is if, if the secular Erdogan gets kicked
out with all of his guys, if there will truly be a some form
of a coup, and who's really running everything behind the
scenes and what it will mean longer term. For that, I would
say for the prosperity of Europe, the European Union, it
truly is the gateway for them.
Well, the Turks are knee deep in the Syrian issue issues. And
they're the ones that are one of the pipelines that the CIA's
using they move armaments into the scene for the rubble
building. And it's always and it's interesting, because
Turkey, I don't know, something's weird about Erawan,
because he originally came in as an Islamist. And then he got, he
started doing all kinds of improvements to the country, I
mean, to the point where he was going to close parks and build
giant malls and became this ludicrous capitalist.
But I think what happened first is that everyone in the past
almost the past decade, everybody was talking about the
Turkish wonder, and how Oh, it's unbelievable. Look at the
economy, look at the Turkish Lira, which have now is of
course collapsing, because all of that was, it was kind of the
way I understand it was kind of Goldman Sachs, you know, they
were doing the same thing they did in Greece, just dumping
money in Ottawa, get some more money, we'll put some more in.
And now that's kind of stopped.
Which could also be your attack, there's, there's that element.
The other thing is I was thinking about this rubble
building, which is, you know, creating rubble everywhere. Yes.
Which I like to use a lot.
central column setting, everywhere you look. And it just
seems to be very beneficial to do this. If you just think of
Halliburton and Bechdel, and office building, yeah, the
rebuilders. Right. So they're gonna, so Central African
Republic, of course, is going to be the big target for really
making I mean, it's already a mess. But, but it's easier to
have the country ruin itself and kill half the public. And than
it is to come in there with bulldozers to do it. So it's
almost like it's almost like an organic process. If you think
about it, you let the country go to pot, you create all kinds of
undue influence, a kind of a dissolution of Public Safety and
Security, you have a mess, where people start killing each other
left and right, so you've knocked the population way down.
And then they burn everything to the ground and then drove take
the rocks that are run from around so they scatter the
rocks. So you have a nice, you know, done by hand. Of course,
nice. You throw rocks on each other bedrock. Yeah.
And then you end up places did find it, they run out of steam,
because you can't just butcher everybody with you know, at some
point, people come to their senses. And then you move in the
big companies, the big rebuilding companies, and you
get big fat contracts. And they take a piece of the actions. The
Chinese are looking forward to this too. But I think we're the
guys who do the best job of it.
from the, from the 33 world news website, which is all news that
has the the number 33 in it received today. 33,000 foreign
nationals evacuated from the Central African Republic code
yet while it's from the voice, the original is from the voice
of Russia. So the interesting if the Russians aren't know what
the code is,
you know, I wish we could figure out the code.
What do you think so what do you think is next from for the car
for the Central African Republic? And when is it just
time to have this rubberized?
I think it's already in the process. There's a lot of
reports that doctors without borders have to they've mostly
vacated because they can't be in there there. Because the rebels
are coming into the hospitals and butchering people in there.
The machetes are out. This is a Rwanda fractal, right? And we've
done nothing about it. We've sat silently, because the French,
you know, said, Well, we're getting this there. It's their
job. It's their job, and they've sent in all of 1600 troops,
peacekeepers. Country. Yeah, peace as a country is about the
size of France. So it's, it's nothing. It's ridiculous. And I
think it's an error. All the reports are that it's just going
to be old, it's not already broken loose, it's breaking
loose quickly, and it'll be too late by the time we take action,
so it's going to be a mess.
Well, I think what will need to happen is it'll have to be a UN
resolution.
It's already it's too late. I
mean, it's gonna No, no, no, no, but in order for us to go into
the friendship area, we will go in there doing their thing, I
believe, we need to have some kind of Security Council
resolution or whatever. Let me just see, so sent so to the east
of the Central African Republic is, of course, South Sudan. And
that would be handy. Let me look at this for a second. You always
got people you got to get a map. It's very important to use maps,
particularly when it comes to the continent of Africa. Because
you know, those names change you have no idea what's going on. So
if South South Sudan Of course, there's all the oil and the
Chinese want to have their there, they're pumping it up
north to port Sudan to the Red Sea. And that's where so there's
a lot of crap going on there. It will be advantageous to move it
west through the Central African Republic. Now maybe not because
that's not gonna happen. What's it No, you're right. What's the
way the sun looks? Let's see what's going on around it. Ah,
Cameroon, we haven't
mentioned something that you when we use the Hiroshima effect
title and then you had some links apparently you link to one
of buzzkill Jr's friends pro nuke website. He's a he's an
engineer and in the industry Yeah. And they got a bunch of
hits and now we're getting a lot of new engineers Yes, this
agenda Yeah.
Yeah, no, I know. There's a there's a central blog which I
think is pro atomic bloggers or something maybe that's what I
linked to I don't know Yeah. So of course we have one of our
nights is Sir rod atomic rod who was who spent his entire naval
career on a nuclear submarine and the Fukushima now that and
that's the Hiroshima now it's not called effect it's called
the syndrome arose from the Hiroshima syndrome blog is
written by another which had stone erosion syndrome blah was
I was referred to that through atomic rod that's one of the
buzzkill juniors buddies
one of the one of the guys in there it least he's connected to
it somehow. We don't think we talk about this because he's jet
buzzkill Jr, so you know, he's so to end it this stuff that he
is also, he's talking about their General Electric, by the
way, is going to do is going to have a big a nuke bush in the
next two years. This is kind of not known to anybody. Oh, and
they are going to start promoting the little. The little
bitty nukes, the little ones?
Oh, really? The backyard nukes or the or the the neighbourhood
nukes? Backyard? Ha.
And neighbourhood there's apparently one there's one
they've done some calculations this was I don't know how much
confidence This was given to me in but
Yeah, screw it. What do you care? Apparently, they're
the government working with GE has developed another
technology, new technology, who which is something like 900
square foot product. That is enough to power the whole
country.
We can't have that we can't have we can't have any solutions.
So as we as we got into this conversation, and by the end,
not only that, but for pretty much infinity.
Don't tell anyone that we can do that.
So we're talking about you know, the about the effect of Petro
dollars and how the world works with the American dollar and how
it every time someone tries to circumvent it because Petro
dollars allow us to have this huge debt because we really
control the world's currency.
And which is why we go and kick if you if you're thinking of
selling your oil for anything but United States dollars, you
could wind up either hung on YouTube and like Qaddafi. Yeah.
Or you're you're in a gutter. You're coming out of the gutter
pipeline. Yeah, we'll shoot you there. So it's not not a good
idea.
But it would change fundamentally change the way the
world works. If what you brought this up, if China says, Okay,
we're done with it, playing these games, which they which is
what they're saying, which is what they're saying, we have
lots of engineers in China, and we can point them in any
direction we want. Because our education system is pretty much
government controlled, and we've turned it into Nuke engineers
there if they go on nuclear Besides solving the air
pollution and energy problems and putting them on a completely
independent path, it would be fundamental it'd be a
fundamental change the world politics and it would get all
the stuff that's going on that what are we what we follow the
pipelines and all the rest of it is over,
could you imagine how much more money there would be to do other
things with if we weren't if our energy wasn't based on oil and
gas. And if it also wasn't based on solar and wind, which is
farcical you know, but something real something that really
works. And once you've paid the initial, once you've done the
initial investment, it rolls on. Now, it's not it's like a little
football thing that's sitting in there, and it's good for 40
years,
or longer or longer. Well, I like technology. So
we talked about the trainer's looking at going very heavy into
nuclear Ukraine, of course, which has been, you know, right
in the middle of this distant world, they've kind of been torn
on both sides, either join the European Union, get a little bit
of cash, you know, and, and help us out or strengthen the ties
with Russia. And of course, 80% of Ukraine's gas transits into
the European Union. And now, and so this is kind of unresolved,
although they've said, Well, we're not really going to join
the European Union. Now, Russia has given Kyiv a $6 billion loan
to develop atomic energy resources. Which makes nothing
but sense. Because
you learned something else. That's interesting. You
Chernobyl was never meant to be a power generating facility. No,
this Yes, of course. It was a bomb. Maybe.
It was. It wasn't it was an actual weapons plant. Yeah. And
they did they jerry rigged it. It was poorly designed, by the
way, and they did a dumb test. And that's what made it blow.
Yeah, they did a really stupid test,
which was in the Ukraine. Apparently, this was built
without the Ukrainians knowledge by the Russian secretly, when
they were still under Soviet control. And it to this day, the
Ukraine, because half of this area is kind of contaminated.
And it's to this day, there's one of the reasons that Ukraine
is just hate the Russians. So the real Ukrainians, not the
Russians living in the Ukraine. But it's an interesting, this
whole thing is just the nuke thing is it's it has to happen.
I mean, and not only that, but the people that are against it
just per se because it's like, because they don't know any
better. We're all pro global warming, they, I mean, this is
they put themselves between a rock and a hard place with their
logic.
It's, well, it's its risk people, human beings inherently
do not understand how to gauge risk, where of course, you are
much more likely to get in your car drive to work and be killed
on the road, like magnitudes more likely than you are to be
killed by a terrorist or a nuclear plant to disaster. But
tonnes of radiation coming over from Ashima
This is it continues it does not stop this and this is what's so
there's a couple things that I want to talk about today as
well, where I find myself now not on the side of the quote
unquote, alternative media. And it's a it's scary territory for
me. And it really started with with a nuclear scare,
you've never been on the site of alternative media.
Well, um, if you look at okay, so you've well known alternative
media in general. I think that's not that's not true John word we
you know, we attack the status quo we attack with the with the
mainstream media is propagating. But then when you look at
started really started with with the nuclear fearmongering. And
you know, and taking oceanographic maps of wave
patterns, and turning that into this is how the radiation is
flowing. And then these bullcrap stories about, you know, sailors
being dying from radiation sickness on the nuclear aircraft
carrier, AI and all of these stories which are being
propagated throughout the alternative media like wildfire,
and they say, Oh, the mainstream media is covering it up. And yet
the mainstream media doesn't cover a lot of things, whether
that's called a cover up or not. But then you get into other
areas, for instance, I've been reading up on the TPA, you know
what the TPA is, this is this bill that has been proposed,
which would allow it's basically Fast Track authority for the
President to negotiate the sign off on treaties, right, the
Trans Pacific Pacific Partnership and the TTIP will
should be for the European Union. And the whole alternative
universes. Yeah, I'm can't have this new internet freedoms gonna
go away. You're gonna die. You've heard
that guy in the Yeah, that guy he's around.
And so you know me it's like I I'll get the the TPA bill and
I'll read it and like, you know, this doesn't sound too bad. And
I'm afraid I'm literally afraid. Well, have you looked at it? No,
it's not all that
bad. Oh, this you say? So you'd like to look at this stuff and I
take your word finding love
to look at this stuff. Yeah. So we're talking about I think we
need to put these agreements in place as the United States and
and we need to put them in place because we've got nothing going
for us except for really our gas. What else do we have we
already know selling stuff that blows people up and flies around
and blows people up and flies without pilots and blows people
up. And tanks now we're good that would lock we locked in is
good. We know how to do that. I'm just being nationalistic
here for a moment, apparently. Well, look, you take that away
where you want to stop the military industrial complex,
fine, can't starve? No, of course you can't. That's what we
run on to the alternative idea, which is what President Obama
has pushed from day one is natural gas. And that that is
achieved by a lot of fracking. You know, yeah, I mean, that's
all the pumping crap into our water supply. I'm sure we'll
talk about that as well. But in order to effectively compete, we
have to start shipping that stuff. We're isolated here. So
the TPP allows us to ship it off to mainly Japan, which is really
the key, the key ingredient, we need to get it to Japan before
it comes in from Russia, the Russia and China Cabal, we need
to get it there first. And then the TTIP. While every Wild Wild
Turkey is exploding, we need to get our gas into Europe. It's
that simple. And if we don't want to do that, fine, but then
don't complain. I just I'm being pragmatic is I really wish it
was rainbows and unicorns, and we all could tiptoe through the
tulips. But if you want something to go, then this is
it. And you can see the way these things are put together,
I'm hearing really stupid things being said about this process.
And when WikiLeaks is jumping on top of it, then they you know,
they released the intellectual property document which said
nothing other than Gee, no one really agrees yet. And it's not
a document, it's just a working rundown. But I have some, you
know, some of the basic points of what this is about, now we're
talking 11, Asia Pacific economies 28 European Union
member countries 28 countries that don't fit in those two in
total, this is it is New World Order, by the way, totally 159
members, the World Trade Organisation, this is this is
really, really big, we're talking about opening up a
market of 1 billion consumers to United States, they don't say it
this way. But I'm going to tell you a two United States
petroleum products. That's what that's what this is about. If
you're worried about bunions, and that's the least of your
worries. And this TPA this authority bill was already
expired in 2007. So it's really a renewal in order to get this
done before other countries start delivering gas to Japan.
And before the European union elections in I believe that's in
May. Because if we don't have an agreement in place with the EU
by May, then it's not going to happen. And it's going to really
hurt the United States. And I think it'll also hurt Europe.
And you have the Russians and you I think it would be good for
our European brothers and sisters to have a little
competition over who's supplying your electricity to charge your
Tesla. And with the Congress, the way it is currently, it
takes too long here. You just don't get anything done. This
isn't really nothing new. It's just people freak out about it.
Yeah, yeah, they do. And they are freaking out about it.
Do you think do you think is legitimate? I mean, did I freak
out I
you know, I would take your analysis of it above most
people. So I would take I just take your site because you're
very tiny, very tiny person.
You're not grumpy. Don't be mean, man.
Oh, I didn't. I don't know where you get these ideas.
Okay, let me give you a few of the relevant things that that
this TPA that its authority will do and allow. And by the way,
there's all kinds of commissions and there's ways to stop it.
And, you know, it's no more rigged than any other process we
have. So I just it just streamlines it a little bit.
Okay, establishes new goods and services objectives for the
digital age updates objectives to facilitate digital trade,
including protections for cross border data flow, this is the
Hollywood obviously. So yeah, Hollywood gets their little
thing in there to make sure and, and I'm not against that, you
know, I like people in the creative industry to be paid.
I'm just, I'm just not for that kind of piracy. i This morning,
I said, Please take me off your email list. Klaatu. I'm not
interested in receiving emails, but how I can watch stuff for
free, I gladly pay for the entertainment that I receive.
And if I can't afford it, then I won't watch it. Or if there's a
value for value, I'll give what I can. But um, you know, I think
the majority of people who are whining and bitching about this
just want free shit. And look, I'm against that it's not okay.
TPA 2014 maintain strong objectives to eliminate barriers
to cross border investments and protect US investors from unfair
treatment. That's really this is all about your you don't even
mention gas in this, but that's what it's about. Updated
provisions for cyber theft, protect trade secrets facilitate
legitimate digital trade. Yeah, that's going to be just more of
the you know, that'll be lots of bullcrap will have to deal with.
But at least we'll be dealing with it with the entire world
and not just the US alone. currency manipulation? Yeah, I'm
all for that. I think we should, you know, we should be looking
out about what's happening in other countries with currencies.
Just so you know how it works in Congress, every member of
Congress will have access to the negotiating text. That's what it
says right here in this bill. So I don't see how there can be any
anything more secret than it already is. Every member of
Congress should have access to it. It doesn't say secret
access, or it I didn't say statute statutorily ensures
there's
no member of Congress will ever
they won't read it. They're gonna read it.
They may have one walk in the
door, it doesn't promise anyone's gonna do anything about
it. United States Trade Representatives will meet and
consult with any interested member of Congress at any time
keyword interested. I thought that was pretty funny to put
that right in the bill. Hey, is anyone interested in this? Ah,
all right. Well, if you're interested, you can take a look
at it. Any member of Congress can be designated a
congressional advisor and accredited to attending
negotiating rounds. And these negotiations are all about a lot
of stuff. A lot of stuff. But here's the one that is most
important to me. oversight for ongoing negotiations, TPA
applies. Oversight, Consultation requirements are built right in.
And the TPA can be disallowed if agreement makes inadequate
progress in meaning objectives, and new language extends
disapproval to all notice and Consultation requirements. Now,
I don't expect our representatives to do a good job
regardless. Really, regardless, but we need to move this along.
And what I'd like to ask you, John, as people keep referring
to NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement and saying
that that destroyed so much that this would be a global NAFTA and
we can't allow it. And I just I don't think that's true.
No, that's not a global NAFTA was a prop was problematic,
because essentially, move just, it was an easy thing to do. You
can move your you could set up a factory on the board, just on
the border, the Texas border on the Mexican side. And now
environmental laws and labour laws and all these things didn't
apply. And so you have companies like may tag closing shop in the
US and then moving stuff that that's a lot. This is not
nothing like Right,
but that's also different because that is funny because I
was Mickey caught a whole thing on and she's my NPR canary in
the coal mine. She heard a whole thing about the electricity in
Texas. And you know, we're buying so many things from
Mexico. And yes, we're, you know, GE has also moved plants
on the Mexico but the problem is, is the FDA and EPA
restrictions that are and regulations that are put in
place in the United States, not that Mexico, you know, I don't
think it was some ploy. It's just we need to loosen
restrictions or at least revisit what we're doing but it's not
a thing is a cost benefit analysis, right. And that's the
way business works and people always kind of do sight? Yeah,
of course, it's not like some evil guy drooling, you know, in
the, in the quarters thinking about different ways of screwing
people. So they do a cost benefit analysis, isn't it turns
out, you can actually build a factory from scratch, build it
up, hire people and all the rest of it. Now, yeah, it's not
necessarily and then do a cheaper than keeping your your
employees. But there is also social responsibility involved
with certain corporate decisions. And sometimes it's
like, couldn't Is there any way we can keep the factory open in
the Maytag factory, for example, and keep these people employed?
Because they're very skilled? And I mean, are you losing any
money in the process? I mean, are you making are you making so
much more money doing it the other way? Generally speaking,
you're not in fact, a lot of people are pulling back from the
offshoring, because as you know, it becomes paid. It's like
Boeing, and that's that Dreamliner. They lost their ass
on that jet. Because they outsourced everything. And it
was like, it turns out that they got a crap pack, great, great
batteries they got there. They got just junk, I mean, junk, you
know, outside of the US. And we actually you're probably made or
German, let's say germs, the outside of, you know, certain
countries, Japan has also had be in that category, most of the
stuff is low quality, although they've been changing that
because Japanese firms run a lot of the better Chinese companies.
And, you know, we got some of our engineers in China. So China
is actually producing some good stuff along with a lot of
garbage. But generally speaking, if you're if the, if the factory
is right next door in California, let's say, and it's
making stuff and it's inferior, you know, they're going to hear
about it, as opposed to people just bring in junk garbage in
and then what are you going to do about it? What are you going
to do about it? I got this lecture from a guy who fixed my
my refrigerator. He says, don't buy a Samsung refrigerator. Oh,
you can't do? You should try to get parts for this. I can't
repair it. Yeah, it's repair it. And then they don't work that
well. Yeah. So it's like you got it, you know, started to think
logically, sometimes, anyway.
So the final thing I'll say about this is, is the president
cannot sign this and make it done. The President has a lot of
power, by the way. There, there has to be a vote. And but it
will be an up or down vote no possibility for amendments,
which is that's really the Fast Track portion of how this bill
sees the authority, which is just, I mean, I didn't hear
anyone complaining about this in 2007, when it was still there.
So the Congress ultimately still votes on this, they will have a
period of time to review the entire agreement. Now, I commit
to you that I will read the agreement. You know, your
members of Congress, your elected representatives, you
know that they're not going to do it. They're getting blowjobs
will snorting coke. That's what they do. I'm generalising
Yeah, not all of them snort coke?
Most of them like the ludes. I will read it and I will comment
on it. And then you can contact your representative whether you
think they should vote for it or not. We still the people still
technically have the power.
Well, you're an optimist today.
I'm going out on a limb because I read things I really take time
and I'm not knee jerk about you know, alternative websites
saying that you know, we're being sold down the river we'll
never have helped you will never get medicine you know, we're
both will be slaves. We're like we're not slaves now. So yeah,
I'm I'm a little optimistic and I'm just I am not pragmatic as
what I am pragmatic. I would love nothing more than nuclear
energy to power our my child's future. I'm bearish on that. But
when it comes to the next steps for what the United States
should do in this current situation, where 300,000 almost
a half a million people disappeared from the workforce
just disappeared. Became I don't know bums. Then this is a pretty
good deal if we can get this going. Did you Did you hear the
analysis of this by the way of the jobs numbers? Which I mean,
I was laughing out loud. I heard on NPR. How can this be we don't
understand what's wrong with these numbers? Was it? What was
it? Was it too cold? Were people too cold to go out and look for
jobs? Or wait Thanksgiving? Cookie Monster? Here's CNNs
analysis hilarious. So quick backstory to this. The jobs
numbers have always been cooked and the jobless the unemployment
rate is although it may be a true number It is based upon the
actual number of people who are looking for jobs. And when they
go away, then that number goes down. And just before the just
before the election. You'll recall there was a huge ruckus
over the reported jobs numbers even what's the guy from GE the
Jack Welch? He's like these, the books are cooked. This is phoney
baloney. And of course, when you close out the year, and these
are December's numbers, you got to even it out somehow. So they
said, Ah, screw it, just dump it all in the end of December. And
we'll we'll take we'll take the hit as crappy numbers. And
here's how the presstitutes tuck it away.
Surprise, a big miss a big Miss economists really got this
wrong. 74,000 jobs created in the month last month of year
only 74,000. You remember, you had you had economist all week
revising upward, their expectations closer to 200,000?
Here's the real shocker. The jobless rate drops, drops to
6.7%. We should be cheering. How can that be that lowest jobless
rate aid since 2008. Basically, more than half a million people
just left the job market just stopped looking for work.
Now the logical question is, how do they survive? What are they
eating? How do they get by
total jobs created for the year 2.2 million, making you
basically on par with 2012. So basically, last year, we created
as many jobs as we did the year before now we have a whole
year's picture for them 74,000 jobs. That is a big
disappointment. A lot of economists thought that it'd be
much better than that, then you look at the jobless rate, it
fell, in part because people simply gave up.
Where's the where do they go?
Where did they don't ask that question. But let's take a look
at shadow stats, I recommend you go to shadow stats.com. Yeah.
And we take a look at the true unemployment rate, which is the
shadow stats statistic, we have the E, the U three, the U six
and shadow stats. And we do see that when Obama got elected,
it's it took in two different directions. The number one is
the shadow stats number, because that's the one that is most
directly comparable to old calculations done during like
say the depression. And this is like, you know, what they've
done is they it's almost like you say you change the way
baseball homeruns are calculated. Like it all of a
sudden add all the near misses, or fouls that went over the
enough. Hey, it was close, give him half a point.
That means you can you can compare Babe Ruth to a modern
player, which is what they've done with unemployment. So we
don't get a true picture. Correct. And we still have it
looking about 23 and a half percent unemployment rate based
on old old calculations to today's public, and it's still
under the 33%. I think it reached during the Great
Depression, but it's still headed up. It's still headed up.
It's not headed down. Well, the
President had did his podcast, which by the way, I don't think
has ever been nominated for a podcast award.
I don't think it's been nominated. Right.
I've not been nominated and stood by you then. You know,
there's probably about 800 people who who subscribe to his
podcast and well, I was surprised. And to me, it sounded
like he thought everything was great. No economist had over
predicted the number of jobs created by 300%. That'll teach
you to believe economists. But the President it's all peachy
keen. Hi, everybody. Hi, everybody. Yesterday, we learned
that in 2013, our businesses created 2.2 million new jobs.
And we just heard that that's exactly the same as the year
before. So it's not like some great, great upward trend,
including 87,000 last month. Do you see how he just does that,
including 87,000 last month. He doesn't say we expected three
times that our unemployment rate is the lowest it has been since
October 2008. Because all these people are gone, because they're
all bumped and bumped across our broader economy. Their signs of
progress progress. Our manufacturing and housing
sectors are rebounding, rebounding, our energy
technology and auto sectors are booming, booming, booming, I say
thanks in part to the report that
just galls me that the that the government does this. I'm
just saying that the government's not the government.
John, this is
our leader, this administration, just bold faced lies,
our energy technology and auto sectors are booming. Oh, thanks
in part to the reforms in the Affordable Care Act. Health care
costs now eat up less of our economy.
I don't think that's true either. No, it's a bold,
bold faced lie. Over the past four years costs have grown at
the slowest rate on record. And since I took office, we've cut
our deficits by more than half
what Are you still there? Yeah. And I feel like you crapped out
for a second. Well, anyway, I did have an idea, as I was
watching the President's podcast. So there's been this
big talk about extending the unemployment benefits. And I the
way I understand it, so we do have unemployment benefits in
the United States of America as part of the safety net. And it's
not a lot of money. It's about $1,000 a month, I think, per
person. If you're still looking for and how long is it? I made
six months, I think, or
I don't remember anymore. It's been so muddied by this ever,
never ending extensions. Right?
So that had been extended. Since we've been doing the show. I
think, John, yeah, these this has been extended, extended,
extended. And I always end whenever something like this
happens always. And I am in a conversation with someone I say,
Well, you know, things are more expensive, you're paying more
for your own health care, you're paying more for gasoline, that
you're paying more in taxes, it is to help your fellow
Americans, are you okay, this is how it's being spent. And it
always gives people a second to think about it. But I had an
idea to this extension for another six months for 1.3
million Americans, as you're about to hear the President say,
I will cost $6 billion. And now, this is a stalemate. It's stuck
in Congress. And, of course, what we can't pay for this, you
know, where are we going to get the money from. And when I hear
the President say this, I'm thinking, I have an idea jobs
and new opportunities for American families, with
Congress, or on my own, and with everyone willing to play their
part. And that action should begin by extending unemployment
insurance for Americans who were laid off in the recession
through no fault of their own. Now, he says through no fault of
their own, and this is a constant theme. So boohoo
through no fault of your own, whose fault was it? I think we
can all agree. It was greedy bankers and banks. Is that
generally accepted?
I don't think that was really.
I mean, that's who is blamed. That's fine. That's all I need
to know. Doesn't mean that's all. No, no, no, no, no. That's
who's being blamed. And that's who's being penalised JP Morgan,
for their part, in the credit default swap scandal and rip off
that is specifically being blamed for the 2008. Economic
the greatest recession since the Great Depression, had been fined
$20 billion before they're complicit, complicit in this in,
in that event. Why can't where's that $20 billion, go to? Why
don't you take that 20 billion, take out six give it to the
people who need unemployment benefits. Why don't you go to
all the banks and get a billion from each of them? Where does
that money goes, by the way, the $20 billion goes into the
treasury. Yeah. Well, then
go back goes into making more drones.
Well, no, it should go to the Americans who need unemployment
insurance.
Yeah, well, that's a good idea. Good luck.
Well, and I think anybody could, could help and where did they
get
all the money? JP Morgan has been fine. We talked about the
Sunday. Hmm.
Well, I heard you talk about where does the money come from?
And Andrew Horowitz always goes, Oh,
no, he doesn't. He says this. I get these guys have bottomless
talk about deep pockets. Yeah. Okay, you're finding another 5
billion offs, gee, I left my wallet at home.
All they have to do is go to the Fed window drive by say, give me
5 billion. And they said that's fine. No interest for you.
That's where it's coming from, I presume.
By the way, what is this thing about this new Fed guy? Well,
how can they get away with I mean, we have enough suspicions
he mean, the Bank of Israel to play the
bankers clip. Get a background on this?
Well, we did mention this before it even happened. So
President Obama has tapped a former head of the Bank of
Israel, Stanley Fischer, to be vice chairman of the Federal
Reserve. The nominee is currently a professor at MIT and
holds dual citizenship in the US and Israel. Yeah.
Well, the Fed is a private organisation
whose interest is like this gonna serve Israel, the United
States doesn't matter. It's an it's an it's a private
organisation. We have no say over it. They can do whatever
they want. We don't even know who the Federal Reserve is. We
don't even know which banks are really a part of it. So what are
you complaining about now? You now you have a problem with the
Fed? How about Janet Yellen, please.
Yeah, well, I was kind of rooting for her until she showed
up.
She so she shows up and then they dump all this unemployment
crap on her a yellow Welcome to the job.
Now, it's they just want make sure they keep it Free money
coming into the system. That's exactly these are all rigged I
think did Jack Welch was right all along and I think he's
probably still right even though he was roundly soundly slapped
in everybody else
scolded, scolded. But again, at least we can understand the
plan. So there was a there was brief talk for the Bernanke had
to leave, he's tired, you know, if he wants to yacht around the
world, whatever he's going to do is get on hop on a couple of
boards, you know, he's time to party. It's no good on your time
to party go do whatever you want to do. But of course, he had to
start kind of kind of talking about tapering off of the $60
billion a month that is being printed and then buying our own
bonds and and securities and so the threat Yes, and the threat
right? But you know, but then they actually start talking
about a slight taper and then boom, you hit the numbers and so
Yellen the new person comes in says well we got to keep
printing we got just got to keep going and at the same time we
protect the we protect the actual value of the dollar by
killing anyone who doesn't want to trade oil or gas in dollars.
Right. This is odd this by the way, is also part of what
Erdogan did Erawan was doing a backroom deals with Iran so that
that he's I think he's screwed some stuff up there and that
would that has not yet come to me that's yeah, that wouldn't be
good. Yeah, so that so he screwed some stuff up there that
is kind of coming to light now. And it's just we'll just
continue it's it's a big kick of the can down the road as far as
I can see, I just don't see much much different until Hillary
comes in of course.
Yeah, it'd be interesting. Well, they did they're definitely
doing their best job of making Christie look like an idiot. I
have the Christie clip. Just kind of summarise it's so
funny. Yeah, that's so funny that I really I so don't care
about this. Everyone it's it's a nonstop media story.
No, I don't I think it's I think it's gonna die on the vine but I
still think it's amusing and I just love the listening to
Christie say stuff like this eclipse has it portly,
and I apologise to the members of the state legislature. I am
embarrassed and humiliated by the conduct of some of the
people on my team. For nearly two hours, Governor Chris
Christie apologised announcing he'd fired his Deputy Chief of
Staff Bridget and Kelly for lying about her role in lane
closures that crippled traffic in Fort Lee New Jersey last
fall. I am a very sad person today.
This is humorous. That's funny. I agree. I'm a sad person.
Just today just today though, just today, just today. Hey,
thank you for your courage John and in the morning to you John
C. Dvorak
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your contributions it's a very unique I tried to explain it to
we had dinner Friday night. Oh
wisdom about dinner new Well, certainly.
It's you know the jury's still out the key is a New Yorker and
he bought banker
Oh want to know maybe not
banker? Yes. Banker I think trying to get out of banking I'm
not but derivatives to a very interest. It's hard to have a
it's hard to break through to a banker to have a you know, to
have a real like a conversation where you you don't feel like
Ah, here's my, my, my experience with with financial people is
they have a way to turn off all empathy. Because if you have
empathy and finance you will never win. You know what I mean?
You have to be a heartless bad
Yes or you have to be able to turn it on and off.
Oh generally sees you just to keep it off. Yeah, well, anyway,
that's the guys are crying and honey years crying in the middle
of the night.
I rolled up my Hillary on him. That was kind of funny.
Oh, what was his reaction? You might want to remind listeners
what that is? Yes.
Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States
because she is uniquely qualified to run the Empire.
Yeah. And I don't think he was expecting it from me. I think
that was the main thing. He was like, What? No, because you
know, I'm MTV guys my age. So he knows me from MTV. And I, his
wife had listened to the show. She liked it. She thought it was
funny.
were hilarious.
Exactly. All right.
What do we do? idiots are funny that you
send out an emergency notice. yesterday?
Yeah. Because we I was looking at these, you know, I I realised
the off a day, by the way, to me, this is Saturday. I'm just
off completely off on a lot of stuff
in general, in general, or just this week. This been for about a
week now. Okay.
I don't know what it is. But
I'm just wondering, can I just say because normally here's, we
have this unwritten? First of all, John and I have no no
contracts, agreements, nothing. We've never even agree we've
never even discussed anything. Have we never even shaken hands
on anything? It just it is,
you know, wash. What? Now and I just kidding, go on.
So and but you know, it's kind of breaks down like this, like I
do the production and the show notes. And, and John does. And
manages I would say, the, the all finances in and out as well
as the peer edge and, and you know, the spreadsheet and, and
the donations, all of that. And also the newsletter,
the marketing the market. Thank
you the marketing. That's, oh, it's marketing. Its marketing
now. Is it? Okay, it's marketing. And typically, John
will say I get a text message on a Wednesday or sometimes Tuesday
depends on his day, it was Friday or third Saturday, he was
like, you know, take a look at the newsletter. And I'll take a
look. And you know, and I'll send by some comments, and
usually it's no more than maybe a spelling thing or something.
But I didn't get one Saturday. And then all sudden, I did get
the newsletter. And it was like a desperate plea. It was it was
like, we're
on it. That desperate vibe. We did get some emails from people
saying I was I sounded desperate.
Yeah, like it came across as desperate. And by the way,
didn't come across as desperate to you a little bit. Yeah. I,
I saw the newsletter. And I read and I realised, Hey, I didn't
know what to ask me. You didn't send me the newsletter to look
at so Oh, my God. Things are bad. That was my thought. And I
didn't tell me Well, they
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I just before the show started. And this. This kind of goes with
what we were talking about the US economy I received a tweet,
which was one of these. One of these things that they do it as
well of course I'm still well known in Gitmo nation low lands.
So you see someone tweeting someone you don't know tweeting
something saying, Hey, Adam curry, take a look at this. And
then if you click on that person, you'll see they have one
follower, but yeah, but they just get those guys. Yeah, well,
but then they've tweeted the same message to a whole bunch of
celebrities. And it was for a European Union project and a
vote. And they need a million votes for something called the
universal basic income. Have you ever heard of this?
Yeah, this is really not not a new idea. And in fact, it was.
We've we actually talked about this around the dinner table. In
fact, I think buzzkill Jr. said that when we played that clip of
that county clerk who didn't want to do and he didn't want to
do her job because she was busy tweeting, yeah, we are he in
particular said She's perfect for this sort of thing because
she would be better off being paid not to be in the workforce
because these people are counterproductive, right? And it
was actually Nixon, who proposed a universal income where you had
essentially everyone would get money just to exist.
Just Yes. Just for being. Yeah, just for being okay. So this is,
you can find it crazy. No, it's not. And I want to play this
video, which is promoting the idea. And it's so you can find a
basic income 2000 thirteen.eu. And it's the unconditional basic
income or UBI. Citizens income, which is guaranteed and the way
these guys are playing it is that it is a human right, as per
the Human Rights Council, that's bull crap. Do you want to hear
the little commercial thing I've got here? Yeah, of course. This
is of course meant to convince citizens that they need to sign
up for this. And if you only they only need a million
signatures, and I'm thinking this is a great deal. Today,
austerity seems to be the only answer given to remedy the
economic crisis in Europe, yet people are getting poor and
poor. Automation in manufacturing and wealth
accumulation by financial institutions are changing our
approach to work. More and more is produced with fewer and fewer
people. Unemployment rates have skyrocketed and pay work is no
longer right for everyone. The good news is that never before
in history have human societies generated so much wealth. But
while this wealth is produced by the work of all past and
present, this wealth is unevenly distributed among citizens. We
as European citizens propose an alternative. It's not a new
idea. But now is the time to put it into action. It's called
unconditional basic income. Have you heard of it? Not yet.
Article 25 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
states, everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate
for the health and well being of himself and of his family,
including food, clothing, housing and medical care, and
necessary social services, and the right to security in the
event of unemployment, sickness. There it is, basic income should
be universal, individual, unconditional and high enough to
ensure a dignified existence and participation in society. This
new fundamental right for humanity not only would
eradicate misery, it is also a way to develop non market
orientated work, such as artists, parents, and volunteers
podcasters. It's also an economic measure a basic income
for all mean supporting local business. Therefore, it would
enable us to fully exercise our citizenship. How do we finance
it? Easy. We have several proposals, and high income
taxation, a consumption tax on luxury goods and polluting
products. And mainly self financing by simplification of a
very long list of current social transfers, and associated public
services, which have become obsolete. What we propose would
be much simpler, equal and transparent. Everyone gets a
basic income, even asking for it. But then, of course, it's up
to you to work if you want more money. We as European citizens
have now launched an official petition called the European
citizen initiative to make the European authorities examine our
manifesto. So what's the deal? So? So first of all, we have to
surpass a minimum threshold of seven countries minimum. Okay.
What
are you gonna stop it?
It's almost 20 seconds.
What part of Europe is this guy from? Sounds like he's from
Southern California.
Let me just do the last 20 seconds. Please get it let them
get through the page campaign and are getting ready to collect
signatures. Hopefully others will join up soon. The European
Commission must consider our proposals when we reached the 1
million signatures required. If accepted, studies of the
different models and amounts of basic income will begin we must
mobilise by organising events creating local groups and
creating a buzz by telling your friends around you that a new
idea is growing and your Imani Thank you for visiting basic
income 2000 thirteen.eu Create a petition create a buzz by
telling everybody this free money for just breathing
okay, hold on a second let's take a look at this you know,
Can I Can I just suggest one thing here? Let's see. Should we
try your other network for a moment
and anyway this is not a new idea but I'm went to while we
had the low issue I believe that this is nothing more this for
one thing this guy sounds like it's in Southern California
which bothers me. I think this is just a mailing list scam.
A mailing lists scam it's it's an official EU initiative.
I'm telling you there's a mailing list involved in this
you know, okay, this is very interesting because I was
looking at the at the initiative here, who was it that frequently
asked questions there was something about it's funny you
say this Hold on. Let me scroll down to it. How can I help click
that? Why do I have to provide so much sensitive private data
when I sign up? Really John, did you nail this somehow what's
going on?
Every time I see anything like this that's asking for you know,
your signature your mail mailing address. I always think mailing
lists scam. This has been going on mailing lists scams are
great. I we should do one to get more people on our mailing list.
Hold on
a second. Let me see who was behind basic income
2000 thirteen.edu now now you have me freak out. Because it
says this a sign online. I didn't want there's an EU
website. So what? Yeah, yeah, true. Then it looks pretty
official.
Doesn't look official to me.
Well, none of the European Union sites look really great. Let me
see who is basic income 2013. Can I even get that through the
who is if I want to find out? Yeah, here we go. Not disclosed.
Okay. Go to hold on. Go to you our id.edu for web based who is?
No, we're gonna get all this crap. That who is database
doesn't always work so well. Okay, let's see. Okay, so that's
not going anywhere. I don't know maybe one of them. Maybe someone
in the chat room can figure that out for us. Are you still there,
John? Yeah, I'm
listening to this. I don't I can't find out either. Okay,
here
it is. Basic Income to thought. 2000 thirteen.edu. You don't
have to do the.edu on this web based system go Alright. Tell me
who this is.
Who was doing let me ask you. Why is the guy sound like a
Southern California surfer?
Oh, because they Oh, this is interesting. Ah, well, he sounds
like a California surfer. Because they put out they
clearly put out an audition. I'm surprised I didn't get asked to
read for it. registrant is a Dutchman named Robin Keita.
Lars. And he lives in drown, drown or vain. His email address
is Rob Inc. at hard soft.nl. This is sounding a little
sketchy. Huh? I don't know, man. Maybe it's just a local
initiative? I don't know. I don't know.
Let's put it this way. A name on a mailing list is worth a mil
minimum of $10.
One name? Yeah. On any mailing list? Yeah. Really? Yeah. If
you own that name, it's worth 10 bucks at least. Wow. Could be
more if it's really a great list. So if you a lot of there's
been a lot of these guys who did them you remember the computer
professor? You see him on television all the time. I am a
computer professor. And I have a disk on how you can learn word.
Oh, is this the tech guy?
Is he's a fun? I don't know who he is just kidding. No, it's not
the tech.
Is this call for help.
I have a desk and it's free. Oh, no. Yes, I have CDs. Yes. And
it's your name and address. And you'll get a free desk? No, even
we even pay shipping. Yeah, well, that is a mailing list. I
wouldn't guess not a scam. It's just a mailing list scheme. scam
is the idea is to get the names that you can put on a mailing
list. And those are all addresses. They're worth a
minimum of 10 bucks a pop, and you rent them over and over and
over again. That particular list is probably worth a fortune.
Well, that kind of deflates the whole excitement I had about
getting money for just breathing and I was kind of excited about
that I was ready to tell Nikki that we should use her European
Union citizen status to go back find a nice place to live and
just live and get paid and if we ever feel like making extra
money you know, then we can work through these things work out is
that has anyone really looked at this model of this can actually
succeed? Yeah, it
could work. Really? It wouldn't in a million years because no
one would put up with it. Just not going to happen
it how does this UBI differ from communism or socialism?
The communist make you do some work.
Okay, it's kind of it starts off by yay. You don't have to do
anything and then then slowly he's like, Well, you know, you
might want to you know, like
sweets mindset of the Westerner is not amenable to this.
Okay. Well, I think it's an interesting concept. And I can
see where a lot of people would be. Yeah, I'm all in on that
just pay me to be alive. And then I can be a musician, or
maybe an artist. I can be a podcast on
the mailing list with a bunch of demographics perfect.
Yeah, exactly. Ah, okay. Switching gears, John. Of
course, it is 28 more days until the start of the Sochi Olympics.
And we need to constantly remind everybody that that is coming
up. And what better way to remind the American public
particularly if you are hosting this on your television network
of such as NBC or any of the affiliated NBC channels to
remind people how horribly dangerous Russia is. And and let
maybe the State Department could put out a little memo to remind
us about how dangerous Russia is. And if you're planning on
going to the Sochi Olympics, which starts in one month from
now set your VCRs everybody, then that would be very handy to
propagate that message
tonight the US State Department has issued an alert warning any
Americans planning to travel to the Olympics in Russia. This is
about the potential danger following terrorist threats and
the opening ceremony is exactly four weeks from tonight.
Don't you love that? Like the opening ceremony? You always
want to catch the opening ceremony?
And of course you're watching NBC? Yes, of course. You're
watching NBC. What is four weeks from tonight?
Our chief foreign correspondent Richard angle is live for us in
Moscow tonight. Richard, what brought this about today,
man, I can't believe he's he has the guts to stand in Moscow. I
mean, he could get killed at any minute.
Or good evening, Brian, we understand that there's no
specific threat. But security is the overwhelming concern that
Russia has in the lead up to these games. And Russia is
imposing some very severe security restrictions. Already
banning all liquids on flights, not just large amounts of liquid
liquids of any kind. Also, about 40,000 police and soldiers are
imposing a so called ring of steel venues. It's so cheap, the
ring of steel, the FSB, which is the new KGB
Hold on a second, hold on a second. I'm not going to accept
that. I mean, you can F Russia all you want. But when they go
on news and say the FSB is the new KGB that I'd say
that's quite a strange venues at Sochi, the FSB, which is the new
KGB is responsible for security overall.
Don't you find that hilarious?
It's very funny. The main concern obviously is terrorists,
specifically somewhere coming from the North Caucasus and over
the new year, there were two bombings that put this country
on alert. US officials tell us they are not overwhelmingly
concerned about the Olympic venues themselves, but concerned
that something could happen promo promo train station
transport hub, a softer target promo be attacked during the
games. Richard Engel in Moscow, as we said the opening ceremony
four weeks from
Thank you. Make sure we got the promo in there. Now the best the
best I've ever heard. Ron Wyden, is he a senator or congressman
Ron Wyden? Senator I believe Senator. Okay. He is brought in
to promote the games. And of course, you know, the way we
promote this is by talking about how horrible Russia is. And and
he what he was saying, maybe he's Is he on the the Olympic
Committee. We have to check this for a second, but that I know of
let's see Ron Wyden IOC. We'll just try that Google and see
what happens. Well, hold on a second. I think he is somehow
just a quick scan of the Google shows that he has some
connection and the critics
is a critic of the Olympic Committee is an article from
1990 90 where he says is corrupt.
Hmm. Well, maybe they flipped him. Okay, so why is it why do
we not want to go to Russia? What are the most horrible
things about Russia as we know it today? This is a question to
you, John. It's cold. Yeah, that's Oh, hold on.
There's a lot of hookers.
Hold on a second. I lost my mic there for a second. No, no, the
what are the real what is the real? What's the real messaging?
Terrorism is one are you gonna read? Terrorism is one come on?
You know the answer to this. Don't make me force you to say
it.
I don't know. They hate gay people. Oh, right. The gay thing
here now to talk about this Democratic senator from Oregon,
Ron Wyden, who is also a member of the Senate Intelligence
Committee. Senator, thanks so much for joining us and you sit
on the Intelligence Committee, Russian extremists to vowed to
disrupt the games. Now we understand, of course, the
classified nature of a lot of the information, you know, but
can you tell us if anything about the threat and the State
Department's warning today? All right. So he's on the
Intelligence Committee. And of course, he can't tell us
everything because of the classified nature. But he is
going to tell us exactly what the problem is, with the
security in Russia.
Without getting into classified matters. I do believe that the
threat of terrorism, and the very, very hostile actions
Russians have taken towards gay people, is a reason for
Americans to be cautious about travelling over there.
The very, very hostile attitude towards gay people. Very, very
hostile John,
so they just get beat up Americans.
Only if they're gay, apparently. So just to break it down. If a
loved one of yours, gay or straight, or one, yeah, listen
to this. This is great travelling to Sochi. What kind
of advice would you give him or her would you say avoid, don't
drop the soap? Crowded buildings, avoid crowds always
have an escape route to avoid gay people don't go What would
you say?
I would say certainly follow the State Department, travel
advisors, advisories, I think they've consistently been on
target. And as I've indicated, without talking about classified
matters, the combination of the threat of terrorism Stop,
stop, stop, stop, besides having a list, which is telling this
and to go back it up a little bit and listen to white and I
didn't realise it before. But he sounds exactly like Steve Jobs.
Who has who has a very similar list. You're absolutely right.
And now listen to what he says to
all the State Department, travel advisors, advisories, I think
they've consistently been on target. And
we and we really are so proud of the work we've done at the Apple
stores. And whenever we get excited about something, we like
to make a video. Alright, here we go.
There is I think they've consistently been on target. And
as I've indicated, without talking about classified
matters, the combination of the threat of terrorism and these
exceptionally hostile actions towards gay people, there's a
reason for Americans to be cautious.
This I can't believe this is coming out of an elected
officials mouth.
This is the Clip of the Day play it.
Thank you. I was ready for it. Bam. Nikki and I were betting on
this being clip at the day. But there's more. Do you think gay
and lesbian Americans, LGBT Americans going to the games
should be particularly on their guard? If you're gay don't go.
Certainly the fact that the Russians have indicated that gay
people are second class citizens and exposing them to violence is
certainly cause for gay folks to be thinking Hey, folks carefully
about going there. All right,
gay folks. Listen up. This is a lie. A bold faced lie from a
liar with a lisp. Guy. I mean, how can how can he say this? And
I mean, clearly must believe it. If you aren't necessarily if you
are gay, there is no questionnaire you can go into
the Russian military. If you are gay and you want to adopt the
child, there is no questionnaire no nothing. This is a made up
lie the United States. My god. 10 years ago, we had Don't Ask
Don't Tell we had fellatio was still illegal in 15 states. We
are more anti gay than Russia. Yet, this is now being
televised. If you are going to the Olympic Games and you're
gay. You believe the rainbow pants at home and don't drop the
soap because Russia hates gays, you're second class citizens.
This This to me is grounds for an international fractious what
Senator Ron Wyden is saying.
Not going to happen. I know it Russia lost their edge.
What does that mean? They can't
propagandise properly anymore. They used to have all kinds of
good do things to sucker people into believing that you know
their way was the best way and all the red tape they just they
did horrible. They need some consulting.
Yeah, I want to remind people that we of course have
completely debunked this. And despite and it's it's it's like
rowing upstream the Niagara Falls I mean, it's impossible.
No one believes me. The white paper is I guess done. It hasn't
been published yet. The ones that are gay Crusader Brian has
been working on a read every thing it's I guess he's getting
ready to publish it. But I don't think it matters. People have so
bought into the idea that the entire Russia hates gay people.
They kill gay people. You can't say you're gay or you're locked
up, you're thrown in jail. None of it is true. It's based on one
law, which says you cannot propagandise alternative
lifestyles to minors, minors being under 13. That's it. And
the Dutch, who are in general smart people. There's there's an
entire national outrage because the king and the Minister of
Foreign Affairs I think the prime minister have all said
they're going to Sochi, they're going to the Olympic Games, our
King loves the Olympics, and he loves going there with his wife
and they get drunk and they dance and it's great to watch
and they love it and they go to Holland house and they have this
big party and he's like yeah, I'm going as he knows is not
true but the country the news It's an outrage. He clearly
doesn't care about the gay people. You're being played
people you're being played it's not true. Vote Ron Wyden out of
office vote him out. Liar. Moron.
So let's talk about talking about lying. Let's let's add
talking about the alternative media. Let's talk a little bit
about this the chemical spill in West Virginia. Yes,
I I'm glad you have done some work on this because all like, I
haven't looked into it. I heard about it. All I thought was
maybe it's some fracking company that messed up and that's all I
haven't looked at anything where Yeah,
it's a coal washing chemical though. They never tell you what
the chemical is. The Chem I do have the chemical though. It's
for methyl cyclo hexane methanol, which is a chemical
used to clean coal. Is the early report said it was a foaming
agent. I don't know what maybe just got some
and cleaned up Why do you need to clean coal? Is it just you
Well,
I guess there's a lot of dirt or stuff the you know the other
things I would burn coal once a while under one's a bit. This
bigger rock looks slowly at coal but it's not. And it would be
end up in a fireplace. So let's just get a background here by
playing w v the dummy. Oh no, not the dummy on the street,
Ground Zero, ground zero. Okay, and ground
zero it is.
Ground Zero is this Freedom Industries plant that makes
chemicals for the mining steel and cement industries. state
inspectors say a foaming agent used in coal preparation leaked
from a 40,000 gallon tank yesterday. Some of it overran a
containment area and ended up in the Elk River. An estimated
300,000 people are affected in nine counties, many of them
reporting a smell like black licorice. emergency hotline
centres like this one are fielding calls.
We've had some complaints about the eyes burn and things about
nature. Best advice is to stay inside right now and to get this
taken care of.
For now people are being told to avoid using tap water to bathe,
drink, cook or wash clothes and dishes. jeff McIntyre has the
Charleston water treatment plant. He says the chemical is
not especially toxic, but it's not worth taking a chance. We
don't know. Okay,
why take a chance? Why take a chance. So you listen to Twitter
and Facebook and all these things and you all yours the
same? You hear the same kind of story which is Oh, somebody took
a sip and they ended up non stop vomiting, Dad stop vomiting.
Right? Yeah, vomiting, everyone's vomiting and makes it
sound like all in West Virginia is vomiting. So I want you to
listen to this clip of the mayor. And and and tell me if it
kind of jives with this vomiting bowl nonsense. This is the West
Virginia Mayor drinks the water. Well, we
heard that there's almost a smell of black licorice either
in the air of the water. Have you smelled it? Have you tasted
it? I smelled it yesterday, when a gentleman from the office
across the street came over to my office to get me he knew me.
And he took me across the street. And I smelled it when I
got outside. I'd been inside for that afternoon. And then he went
up to his water fountain. And then I tasted it and took a big
drink of it. And I knew that there was something very wrong.
And it was not long, much longer after that, that the West
Virginia water company and the governor and all those folks
held a press conference. It wasn't the governor's press
conference. He was just happened to have been there. But as
Western Union American Water Company, and they have nothing
that bad news for the citizens and with no end in sight.
He didn't vomit. Apparently he didn't vomit. So that's bull
crap. And that's played everywhere. In fact that was
looking at Think Progress. In green progress and that's all
they're talking about is the all the vomiting is going on. They
don't discuss the chemical at all. This was on PBS so they had
to at least, you know, do a little lip service to the model
that you need for these shows. So they had a man on the street
a woman on the street. And this is the classic again, you Let's
go with our theory here. If you got you're in West Virginia,
this is obviously the way they all are, even though the mayor
and let me point out I went to college shortly but I went to
college in West Virginia. I've been to Charleston, I've been to
Clarksburg, I've been all over. So I know what the West
Virginians are like, Let me guess. Is this a toothless
wonder type dude,
here we go. You go mountains now. As long as you don't do
like you did back in the old days, but
just take a you know, like Burberry, President Obama has
declared a federal disaster in the affected region. expediting
aid.
That's good.
I almost vomited.
No, she had a big buck above Blanca ice. A
vomit. ASOs is vomit I had I had some ice vomit.
And she said she's gonna put in a tub and take a bird bath with
the vomit.
I just like saying vomit.
Wow, I don't know. Yeah.
Okay. Now let me ask you a few things. You've been inspector
about air water all the same thing. Now this to get even even
get in the water? Is it not true that in general, a lot of these
heavy industry plants, they dump stuff in the water regardless,
it's not how it works. I mean, they have to put stuff into the
water to get rid of it. And it just flows away. And then the
water plants pick it up and they clean it out. Isn't that kind of
the system anyway? Yeah, that's right. That's how it works. They
throw it out. I'll just dump that shit in the water. And then
you know, everyone knows and they pick it up downstream and
they clean it out.
You know, curiously, this chemical was patented as a room
deodorizer smelled like licorice actually smells like mint
according to the the
vomited, and it smelled like black licorice.
This was a lot of big dump. This was they generally speaking
these companies, they they, they put stuff in the water, but it's
not necessarily the drinking water. And it's not necessarily
a lot of it. And what happened here was a tank, I guess, began
to leak. I don't know how this could possibly happen. But it
would leak into the there's a most tanks have a little dam
around them. So in the tank, if something happens in the tank
starts leaking, the dam holds the whatever it is that's in
there, and then you can pump it out of that area when you get
the thing under control. Right? They said that the down they was
leaking enough so that the dam over fluid the busted or broke
or they would the dam wasn't in good shape, this piece of crap
is what it sounds like. And then they got into the water. And the
next thing you know, they cut it all of this seems like there's
some political angle to this too, because this mayor is very
irked by this water company. Because it apparently is just
they own most of the state water and they could reroute water and
get people water but they're just basically putting the
screws to Charleston.
What do you think is going to happen is this is what's the
what's the bottom line here?
Well, when you read about it, bottom line is that this this
chemical has like a half life in the wild. It'll just get eaten
up by bacteria and about, I think four days or so goes yeah,
it
goes away. All right. Yeah. I like that. The I saw some of the
press conference from I guess the the CEO of the water
company. Where's he from England? I don't know. Yeah, I
think he's a British accent.
Pretty for something up with that water company, though.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. You think we're not being told the whole whole
story.
They wouldn't even name the chemical. I had to do right to
research it to find the name of the chemical. No, it is a
chemical spill. Chemical Spill. I mean, the public is dumbed
down enough. I mean, if they at least mentioned that chemical
because it would have frightened them.
I don't think I don't think anybody cares about in the press
in the media. They don't care. They just want the lead. They
just want the headline they want it to death and destruction.
Anything that's too complicated keep it away from the stupid
citizens of the United States. Who stupid understand. Present
company excluded? Of course. The no agenda, obviously, obviously.
Well, the people who care we're not we're not all scientists.
We're not brilliant. But we care. We care to think stop
think for a second. Maybe this is not true.
There's a couple of little news items I ran into that were not
reported anywhere except under really. Our version of
alternative media is the foreign media. Yeah, foreign. Oh, is
this VanCamp
I got a bunch I think this is from our tea. Okay. This is the
I didn't know this at all. This is the story India club closed.
This is kind of interesting India club close.
Meanwhile, the US Embassy in India has been notified by the
Indian government that it has to shut down all business
activities in the embassy. The US Embassy has been running a
club in this area for years. It has a swimming pool. On a tennis
field and his favourite by Americans working in New Delhi
for entertainment, but now India has said the running of this
club for non diplomatic personnel is against the Vienna
Convention on Diplomatic Relations and has requested is
closure. Local media interprets this move as an act of revenge
in the latest diplomatic route. At the same time, the US Energy
Secretary has cancelled his visit to India next week. The
second such diplomatic disruption in the month and your
your response, India's Minister of External Affairs says he
hopes the US could handle the case in the friendly manner.
We expect a friendly country like the United States of
America to do what a friendly country does if there is a
problem about their internal processes and their laws. We are
willing to help we must together
we had a club by the way with CCTV this was China
with a with a swimming pool, apparently, and a tennis court
lounge and a spa.
Probably a bar. Oh, I didn't know this. And I thought was
kind of interesting. Then the Indians decided that Yeah, it
wasn't licenced or something. So they shut it down. They're still
irked. Oh,
no, this is I've been reading a couple of Indian blogs and yet
they're very pissed off about this. This search that we did
this cavity search we did to this woman. Yeah. Yeah, this
this is not over. And it's funny how, how that just goes on and
on and on. It's gonna keep escalating. So okay, Jewel Obama
himself apologises
or something like that. I'm sorry. I didn't mean it.
There's also something weird going on in France with this
comic.
Oh, this is the the cottonelle the the inverted Nazi hit Nazi
salute
the upside down Nazi salute. Yeah, yeah, I've been following
this a little bit. Yeah, this is the story here. This is it's
just guy. I don't know he's a goofy looking guy looks like
he's probably pretty funny. And he does this. The upside down
Nazi salute is holding your hand down pointing it kind of at your
finger at your toes. Right. In a
well, apparently his routine has well, what I've read is routine
and a lot of anti semitism jokes in it. Which by the way, we have
a lot of anti semitism jokes in America. comics do that a lot.
We make jokes about everybody, I think. But but it's not. It's
illegal in France. I guess. It's illegal. You can't you can't.
There's no freedom of speech.
Like it's translations of his act to see what the hell he's
doing. But he apparently is. Here's the here's what's going
on. It's a big deal in France.
Here in France the roll over a comedian at the centre of an
anti semitism debate continues. Do you have any Ambala Ambala
was banned from performing on Thursday night, just hours after
a court in the western city of Nan said he could go ahead with
his show. Well, this amid an ongoing tug of war with the
government and controversy over his so called canal hand
gesture.
Is this the first of many disappointments for the fans of
judo de France's top Administrative Court overturned
a decision by a local judge to let the controversial comic take
to the stage.
In our society, we can't accept even slight complacency with
regards to anti semitism, which so goes against our values and
principles. Giuliani insists he's merely anti establishment
and anti Zionist and denies his trademark canal gesture is an
inverted Nazi salute. Stole local authorities in several
other cities like nice Marseille and Bordeaux have issued a ban
against his show. The State Council swift ruling came as a
surprise and Duda and his lawyers called into question its
validity. Limited and posted was simply impossible for me to make
it on time for the hearing held in Paris at the Council of
State. It's a very clear violation of the defendants
rights your data quality phones. Previous attempts to ban the
comedian's show had been systematically rejected by
appeals courts on the grounds there was no evidence the show
would stir public disorder. It remains unclear whether
yesterday's final ruling will set a precedent. In the
meantime, didone said he would file an official complaint with
the European Court of Human Rights. Many today wonder if the
publicity gained by the comment from this ongoing judicial saga
doesn't in the end, defeat the purpose of the government's
attempts at silencing him. So I have a thought here. First of
all, this is obviously a part of the intolerance or tolerance
laws that are being written EU wide, where you just can't be
intolerant towards anybody you just cannot say that so that
this is your your basic freedom of speech in the European Union,
but there's also a slight problem with precedent or lambda
he's he's been caught cheating on his girlfriend.
Yeah, the clip there. Oh, you
got a clip of that because I think, yeah, I'd say this is a
distraction anything to take the heat off of him. Let's hear your
clip here
crosswind cats for the horses. And you know they're a little
earlier while staying here in France and President Francois
lawned is considering suing a magazine after it claimed he was
having an affair with an actress, the latest edition of
the weekly tabloid closer future seven pages about his alleged
affair with Julie a guy a well, in a statement obtained by AFP
news agency alone called the report an attack on the right to
privacy. The president who has never married has four children
with politician second and while and has been living in recent
years with journalist Villa at Villa. Let's consider Frances
First Lady.
Yeah, whatever guy gets around, he's got four kids never got
married. And he was an analyst and now he's having an affair
with his hot
actress and he lives in a palace. Yeah, he goes
over to her place. So he's denying this he just suing her
invasion of privacy. And they did man on the street. Everybody
in France is on his side. Yeah, they're like, Hey,
look at her. Hey, look at her. She has a hot piece of Ahaz
Dylan. Did he ever show? Come on? Yeah, no, no, we got
problems back here. That's where the problems are. Of course, we
know that according to the United Nations Office of Drug
tracking what the hell was the name of that weed that report
they come up with every year we look at it. Yeah. And well, I
always put I forgot what it's called now. Poppy production in
Afghanistan all time high. Yeah, all time high of course. That's
what we're there for. Go look, go look at the where the camps
are, where our bases are and then look at the poppy
production. We're protecting it and it's paying off in spades.
Even a pristine place like Vermont has a major drug problem
most especially heroin. Every corner of our state, heroin and
opiate drug addiction threatens us Governor Peter Shumlin
devoted his entire State of the State speech to this one issue,
forcefully calling to have this gripping documentary on
Vermont's drug addiction shown in schools statewide. The first
pill I used was a Percocet and Vicodin and then it moved on to
OxyContin and then it went to heroin.
Why Vermont? One theory higher prices in this rural area that
means bigger profits for dealers. Nationwide, more people
die of drug overdoses then from motor vehicle crashes. That's
triple the number from 1990 as we discovered on a recent ride
along with bliss in New Jersey, Kara when is cheap and readily
available, heroin is much much cheaper than prescription
medication, give me the ratio,
a 30 milligramme oxycodone pill $30.80 milligramme oxycontin $80
A bag of heroin
$4 Now with Governor has joined the chorus of concern for
dollars for a bag of heroin
that hard to believe but again well it's
just Jersey Wow But you notice how the kid got hooked on opium
products through the pharmaceutical industry first
that's kinda like a charm it does you know get the kids on
the on the on the synthetic stuff and then when it you know,
then then you show up on the corner with your $4 baggy maybe
a very small bag that's what's so sad. That is so that saddens
me it really does. I wonder I don't know about heroin. I've
never done it. Good thing I don't know. I don't know. I
mean, I have no idea. I know people who have done it doesn't
sound great.
Well, it does be in the zoned out. Yeah.
Yeah. Well this is I mean, there's got to be something
about it. People seem to like it seem to be using it all over
again.
It people a lot of people have now like a lot of different
weird things. Yeah. But you know how some of this stuff can
people can like a lot of this stuff. It just seems to me to be
countered, is it not a product?
No, it's not it's what we call not an outstanding product.
So I was watching somebody I was listening to some radio guy and
he's going on and on about the sexual innuendo on CBS is Two
and a Half Men might have it on here as sexual innuendo and ABC
but CBS and I, and how it's like, completely out of control
sexual innuendo, it's just non stop the whole show. So I
decided to see if this in fact it is not only true, but it's
actually beyond just it. Just here's a segment I just thought
it'd be a nice break in the action for our show. This sexual
innuendo is just completely over the top and I was fine at the
same time.
I'm sorry. You're you have a whole new sound right now on the
Skype.
Good. mer. It's actually
I just got invited to a party in house tonight. You guys want to
go? Aren't you having fun? If you don't want to go I can give
guys right to the party. Jeff in the front there in the rear.
Tight, but we can make it work. I don't think it'd be that
tight. I got to start watching this show again. Man.
Like over the top to
you. Wow. Yeah. Well, especially because they throw the laugh
track in there the whole time.
Yeah. I thought it was an over the top guy, especially with the
final punch that it wouldn't be that tight. The insult line,
which Wow. Yeah, that's, that's pretty good. The entire show is
just sexual innuendo.
Now, when people want that this was what people like to see.
Come on. This is what media is, oh, I can't believe he said
that. This is what the old this the old world and that are old,
where it's coming to an end. Slowly it's coming to and less
and less people are watching and it'll just all end. We might
even witness the end of it.
Let's hope so. So they had the you know, so target finally
announced 110 million people, not 40.
Now, but not just 110 million people. But also, I guess this
is from their own card system because they had names, email
addresses, physical addresses. And I have to question if if
even the 100 and 10 million, I think they may be lying about
that.
And then it barely Neiman Marcus got the same hack.
And according to Reuters, there are more who have not even been
reported yet. They say that they know who but they can't report
it or whatever. But there's a lot more retail outlets who have
been cracked during the same period.
Yeah.
Well, you know what that means?
Government.
Yeah. And time for some cyber legislation. Everybody. That's
what that's what we need. It's common.
Yeah, it's something that something is up with this with
this hack and target was, we have to do a little research,
but I'll bet you there's a reason target became the target.
Well, I do know that and I found this interesting target actually
operates as one of their businesses operates. You
probably got an email about this to a forensics laboratory
specifically for cyber forensics, which I found to be
quite interesting. I didn't even know that. I didn't know they
diversified that much. So they are now in fact, I guess,
investigating their own hack, maybe even on because this
target forensics lab works for the government. But really,
what's what's happening is we're seeing the legislation, I think
I have a copy of it, it may even be in the show notes, we'll have
to take a look of what some of this proposed legislation is
going to look like. Here we go. It's the CFAA. This is the Leahy
bill and there's going to be a lot of penalties specifically
for retail if they allow their customers would I think is I'm
not quite sure how they can do that. I guess they can pass
whatever bill they want. Let me see here. The the
administration's proposal to update the Computer Fraud and
Abuse Act Yeah, that's the C F A attempted computer hacking and
conspiracy to compete to commit computer hacking offences. Will
now we'll put his proposal to be subject to the same criminal
penalties and it'll be a felony. So even if you conspire to
commit this you will be guilty of a felony which is
interesting. And there will be a lot of penalties for not
reporting data breaches. And actually if a data breach takes
place then you as a as an even as a retail outlet can be
prosecuted. I'm not quite sure how that works.
It's pretty odd. And how does it affect banks? Those guys are
getting hacked constantly.
Well, they actually hacking into bank banks like they're like the
real like into the into the system. I don't know if that's
really happening. Oh, yeah, I know. They're getting DDoS and I
know that the sites have been either getting
hacked there's no question about it.
There's been no reporting of it.
It gets reported once in a while but it's incredibly hushed up.
Huh? This isn't allowed.
So these are the amendments coming to the Computer Fraud and
Abuse Act it will make it a crime for a person who knows of
a security breach which requires notice to individuals so if you
don't report it see something say something and then so that's
the personal data privacy and security act I don't know John
it's what we do know is that for the banks this is kind of a wash
particularly with all the free money they're getting it doesn't
matter
when I that but the 18% interest rate they charge most people for
their cards covers all this wow odd you
have a card with only 18% Which bank is that? I think it's more
like 23 or 27%
It's to cover the fraud yeah yeah it's tighten things up but
they won't
they have no incentive. They have no incentive but even that
I mean, how you This is you know, Kaczynski was right there
is no stopping this for every for every new security major
implemented there will be and there will be cracked hacked
insider jobs. This isn't a never ending story. I don't see how it
will ever ever change unless we just start using cash again.
That's what I do. You Are you completely
off of plastic altogether. Oh,
he can't be off plastic altogether. They can order from
Amazon with cash. Right?
Yeah, that would be the one man if Amazon got got hammered like
that. Wow. That would get one because they got my car. They
got my info.
Yeah, they got everything. Yeah. So it looks like got a global
cooling is being reconfirmed, although they won't say it.
Oh, man, I'm seeing so much. protest. If this is what I'm
seeing, and I don't know, if you have any clips or anything, I'm
seeing a lot of real angry protest against the suggestion
that hey, maybe it's cooling a little bit and it's got really
cold. And I'm seeing here salon does infographics of scientists
who doubt human caused climate change. It's like a pie chart,
where you see a little thin bowl caress the one guy who disagrees
that one guy who disagree was I looked at that, and I downloaded
the spreadsheet that the guy had. Those were papers that had
nothing to do with anything. I know. I know. He was just a one
guy. That's anyway, so but I think this I think this report
this global cooling report that I have says it just tells me
that something's up and nobody wants to use the nobody wants to
use the coot the C word the cooling word.
We end tonight with a mystery of nature. majestic birds usually
found this time of year near the top of the world are flocking
south to parts of the United States. Jim Axelrod now on this
winter wonder. Well, right now we're just trying to get a look
at a snowy owl.
It is just about the best winter ever for birdwatchers in the
Northeast. At least for those interested in the snowy owl. We
don't want
to disturb it, but we want to get a decent look at it too.
But the trip they've been making 3000 miles from their usual
habitat in the Arctic Circle has put these magnificent creatures
in danger. Norman Smith is the director of the State Audubon
Society.
We removed 53 from Logan Airport, and in a normal winter.
How many might you say six? We're not even a month into
winter yet. You're right. So this will be the biggest year
for snowy owls and certainly I've ever seen
the snowy owl. Yeah, of course. They're not spreading out.
They're not stupid. They can't they can't read Al Roker who is
the the weatherman on the today's show? Well, I've worked
with quite a bit back in my Z 100 days. And 100 z 100
everybody and I can safely say at the time at least when I
worked with him he was a he was incredible dick. self obsessed.
Just dick. So he got really and he was freaking out because and
there's no reason for him to do this. By the way. This is what
makes me suspicious. Of course, the polar vortex. Neil, there's
a lot of noise and all this is made up and it's brand new, but
we know that it's not new because this showed up at least
in 1974 when it was when global cooling at the time was blamed
on the polar vortex. But Al Roker for some reason feels he
has to yell and scream and protest about this. That is not
some conspiracy about global cool. I'm not quite sure what is
going on. But for the first time, people like him are really
on the ffensive about their stance on climate change. And
it's interesting and of note, I feel a lot of folks
have been saying there's no such thing as a vortex and that it's
some left wing media conspiracy. Let me tell you something. First
of all, we've never used the phrase global warming or climate
change in conjunction with this. This is from my textbook from
college, the glossary of meteorology from the American
Meteorological Society. Copyright 1959. Okay, and here
we go. Take a look right here. Okay, polar vortex there it is.
Okay. So for all the doubters out there, stuff it some are
saying that a we've created this phrase to hype it and to create
hysteria, and that we have made it a political issue by linking
it to either climate change or global warming. I will give
anybody who can prove that I have ever linked this with
global warming or climate change. I will donate $1,000 to
your charity All right.
Well, the weird this protest of his I think so who was accusing
him of anything? I
don't know he's you know, he
got sent me email you know, from some guys think Yeah. And he
just flew off the handle
just just in and then we should go and thanks some people Adam
from Brian, the gay Crusader. Your commentary on the widened
comments has inspired me to spend the next 24 hours
finalising this thing this is the white paper and get and get
your blessing pushing it out while you have my blessing. I've
been having cold feet about the potential backlash but I can't
let egregious lies being pushed by people like Wyden who I
actually admired for the clapper thing stand. Even if my fellow
gays turn on me at least I'll have the truth and facts on my
side. Thankfully, the boys I date are far prettier than they
are worldly. So I don't anticipate a backlash in that
department. Really 24 hours you'll have it all All right,
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All right, well, let's thank a few people.
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This is an this is a scandal in my
in my opinion, as well, I'm seeing huge as particularly
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Yeah, it's the equivalent of an infomercial if the input it's
actually more like those like that. The pieces that we catch
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weight.
Yeah. Exactly to that exactly. And, and it is the future of of
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Looks like the push for vaccination is just off the
hook. Have you been following the news about about the flu?
Did you see three about how this h one n one is different than
the other h one n one. Have you seen any of those pieces? Find
that weird? I got it. Well I hear promoting the crap out of
this. Yes,
no, they are. They're really pushing very hard. And in fact,
our our our cans and avian friends are picking up on it in
Alberta today. You could be excused for wondering if the
flames or the Oilers were selling NHL playoff tickets,
hundreds of people hours in line queues snaking along City
sidewalks. But no one was thinking slap shots. This was
all about flu shots. And the goal wasn't a box office just a
pharmacy counter. The CBC is Chris Brown looks at what's
driving a sudden fever. So Gee, I think we know what's Driving a
sudden fever is a bunch of fear mongering about people dying.
Yeah, because this is this is what we saw in 2009 in the
United States, and now they're doing it in Canada Navia given
the choice between joining the flu shot frenzy or ignoring it,
a lot of people in Alberta today played it safe and got the
vaccine. That wasn't going to get one this year. But since it
there's been such a big outbreak. Such a big outbreak.
Wow.
You know, every year if they just took this h1 and went off
the table, they could do this death statistic in any area.
Same thing to dad in Contra Costa County, one dad in San
Francisco, one dad in Sonoma County, to dad and Napa County.
They could do every year you could do this. But this year,
they've they've decided to do it with emphasis on h one and one
because that's the one that's been pre promoted from 2009 on
and they just want to get their money's worth out of the thing.
That's
the way I see it as well. And Jake Tapper, who of course, you
know, Jake is an interesting guy. Because he got fired from
ABC for asking the wrong questions and they got demoted
to CNN. He had the direct the CDC is director of viral, it's
like influenza know. Stuff that makes you die. That director and
it's funny because the CDC directors they always have
uniforms on for some reason. Like, I don't feel like it's a
militaristic outfit. So this woman comes on his show and she
will Jake is asking the right questions. The answers are
interesting.
So remember, it isn't too late to protect yourself against flu
this year.
My message for everybody listening right now get a flu
immunisation if you have not gotten one already. There's the
commercial. Okay, we're listening, Jake. But it is odd
to me and counterintuitive. What makes young healthy people more
susceptible to the h1 and one strain? Now this is a good
question. Because this is the propaganda is young people,
healthy people, healthy young people, you need to get the
shot. And I think it's it's just a healthy young people that are
walking around the outside, they got a couple bucks go get a
shot, we can sell it to them. That's my answer. But the CDC
director will stumble a bit and come up with some answer.
There probably two reasons. One is that the elderly probably
were exposed to an h1 and one like strain when they were
young.
Does this make sense? Dr. C. Dvorak?
Well, it's the there's a couple of ways of looking at it. If
that's true, I mean, it makes sense logically. But if that's
true, why is the second pandemic taking place in the first place,
because of all the shots that were given in 2009? Let's listen
to the second
reason. And so they have some natural immunity that has
persisted. And then in terms of the the other reason is that non
elderly people just aren't as likely to get vaccinated. We're
doing better and better with children. Right now. Each year,
we're seeing rising rates of children getting vaccinated,
it's becoming a norm really, for parents to know that getting
their kids vaccinated is the right thing to do. But adults,
it's a little slower going. And so we're really encouraging
people, especially pregnant women, people with chronic
medical conditions, they extremely obese. These are
groups that can be very hard hit with flu when they get it and
we're seeing a lot of hospitalizations in those
populations. Oh, okay.
That's not enough, though. I think we need to do more and to
sell more. And we talked about how 10 children have died from
flu related illnesses. What's your advice for parents out
there? How young is too young for a flu vaccine? At what age
should they start to get one?
Each one of these deaths is so tragic, and we have already lost
10 children this year from influenza, only one of those
children was vaccinated. So I strongly recommend parents to
make sure your children are vaccinated appropriately. We
recommend everybody six months of age and over get a flu
vaccine. It can be a shot or a spray, depending on your age and
your medical conditions. And some children under nine years
of age need two doses. So if you're a parent and your child
already got a flu vaccine, you might want to make sure check
with your doctor or nurse about whether the child needs a second
dose. What is the season? What is that?
Now you need a second shot? Oh, come on. No, that doesn't make
any sense.
Why did the kid die? If he got the shot? It makes no sense
either.
I don't know. This doesn't sound like it's real. Have we
forgotten 2009? Where it's now admitted? That the by the way?
Why don't why aren't they claiming a pandemic? Are we not
at pandemic levels yet? I
asked that question on a tweet. Oh, you did? Well, good
question. Yeah, it's like why is this not a pandemic because I
was in response to somebody said, if it gets any worse,
they're gonna have to call it a pandemic. It sounds like it's
already way beyond what happened the first time that they called
a pandemic.
Let's look do we remember remember the definition of The
pandemic because I know they change that. But the CDC
definition of pandemic there's no there was it was really low
and I think we can probably call this John. We can probably,
let's see pandemic definition here. 2009 revisions. This is
from the book of knowledge I shouldn't actually okay, it was
a 2009 pandemic world harness it's a disease or condition is
not a pandemic merely because it is widespread or kills many
people. It also must be infectious. Okay. It is in a
virtual press conference in May 2009. On the influenza pandemic,
oh, Director General, that's an easy way to think about pandemic
is a global outbreak. Ah, it's not a global outbreak yet. John.
That's the problem.
Well, Canada, the US there must be well they just not playing it
as
global. No, not yet. It has to be in Euro late
and it's getting a little late. Well, maybe they can still have
some time. Yeah. Ah, one, one global.
Meanwhile, the the true of course, fix is Tamiflu. Looks
like we have a shortage of Tamiflu now.
Yeah, they're jacking up the price of health news the CDC
said today the flu is now widespread in two thirds of
these United States that is up sharply from just a week ago at
this time. Now there's also a shortage of the main drug to
treat it. While it is winter. This is flu season. It is worth
paying attention to this growing threat. We get the latest on it
tonight from NBC.
This by the way is a fine example of native advertising
right here. That's what it is. This is all they need is a
little sticker that says paid post. This is native advertising
Janet sham Lea. Hannah Hart. Sean McCoy was
surprised when his daughter Kennedy came down with the flu
on New Year's Day, daddy, the two year old had a flu shot last
fall. So did the entire family. Their doctor prescribed Tamiflu
for all five of them.
I see I don't get this she had the flu shot you have to get it
every single year I guess because you don't old people
have resistance because they had it but then you get the shot and
then you have to grab it again every year but though it's the
same thing it's no one is making any sense. Dr. Oz please help
me. Help me understand how it works.
Do you have a Dr. Oz clip? No, I
don't. I'll take it I'll take it from Dr. Oz I'll take it from
there. I'm
looking at Amazon's a Gupta anybody looking at the Global
incident map for outbreaks and it doesn't look global enough
isn't only Belize, Romania, Canada, US are going places that
have this flu on a basis. There's an outbreak in Belize.
There's one case of swine swine flu mania.
Well, that won't do it's just not good enough.
Now this is weird that we have what was it? This doesn't make a
lot of sense to me. No, no, we're I've been very sceptical
about this whole the way it's working. I gotta say I have seen
ces report.
CES, the Consumer the Consumer Electronics Show.
Yeah, it was a big show in Vegas with a bunch of junk to trying
to sell the public
I heard that Wearable technology is the buzzword this year John?
It was
beginning and then after the show was everyone said there's
nothing was a dud it's done yeah, that clip so I have to see
yes report with it. There's a there's a thing a guy says in
here that just this is the reason I don't go to these
events. And this is why I'm kind of is I'm going to tell you what
it is. It just galls me that these people get away with
saying certain things TVs
when it comes to glass, everything's curved now and LG
has new Flex phones and they say that they could actually come so
thin that you'll be able to someday be able to fold your
phone up. LG also unveiling home chat, turn your appliances on
and off by text we used to
rush home to turn on the washer and dryer. Now we can hit Send
cleaning, send it a text message and it will start cleaning my
favourite. Go.
We use to rush home to turn on the washer and dryer.
I can't wait honey, let me do it, please.
Who rushes home? I'm asking you this and ask Adam who was the
heck rushes home to turn on the washer and dryer. Oh god, I
gotta get hold on the washer and dryer because if I don't get
there in time, I won't be able to turn it off. I mean, what is
the logic here?
Well, it's the same logic that is, you know, makes my
refrigerator know that I need milk and orders it for me.
It's so going to hear some idiot from LG say that we used was
this quote we used to no we didn't we never rushed home to
turn on the washer and dryer nobody did ever
I'm also it's funny because I I'm also angry about dishwashers
in general forget washer dryers I think dishwashers are failing
when you have to put the the forks and the spoons upright in
the little basket otherwise they don't get clean. This technology
is not good enough. You don't I mean?
I like my washer and what kind of dishwasher Do you have I did
a lot of research before we had out used to have this I think it
was a Frigidaire they don't even make them anymore. By the way
this this is fresher stainless steel.
This is tech news, you really that will really help you this
is high
pressure stainless steel it was like the thing I pressure to get
the thing kept blowing up. So I did some research and realise
that you don't want a stainless steel interior you want a
plastic interior because it's really quiet. Stainless steel is
really noisy. So you want to get rid of that. So I got a Kenmore
and you don't want electronic controls because it's a wet
device is going to screw up because the water that things
result you know just the water device, right so you want just
manual controls. Simple plastic interior Kenmore and more
fantastic product
and cheap and do you have to pre wash your plates?
No, it's got a grinder in it of some sort.
Yeah, this is what I want.
Yeah Canmore that has the grinder and it Hey, which grind
stuff into it gets rid of with plastic interior which is a lot
cheaper than stainless steel but do you want stainless steel and
who cares? And it's just a dynamite product.
I'm looking now grinder you say
it's got some sort of a thing that grinds you know it gets all
this food gets goes into some thing it grinds up the
pieces a chopper blade? Is that it?
I don't know what it's called anymore. Kenmore Elite
dishwasher. Uh huh. That's probably electronic. You'd have
to be
sceptical cleaning the grinder of the Kenmore Elite. Uh huh.
Well, of course, now we are in a rental home because yeah, I
can't I can't get a mortgage. So we get a rental home a
dishwasher. And it's just no good.
Lot of dishwashers are pretty crappy. Yeah. But we have we
have nothing but good luck
with a one day you'll be able to fold up your your phone.
Yeah, yeah. And you'll be able you don't have to rush home to
turn on the washing machine.
And what is what is, what is the purpose of curved televisions?
I have no idea.
It's a beautiful world we live in? Well, while while we're on
the technology news, this is something that I am keeping a
close eye on is the this has cropped up a while ago. And now
they're really pushing it the idea of the sponsored data plan
that AT and T and Verizon, Verizon are talking about? Where
if you're watching, I guess Netflix is the example that
Netflix will pay for your data usage. And this is this is being
watched very closely by people who believe that ultimately,
at&t will degrade service of other other other data streams.
Because it's not paid for or not paid for directly or sponsored.
If you've been following any of this.
Yeah, yeah. There's something they did. I think this is all
part of the Netflix. Move to stream 4k? Ah, yeah, that's
a good point.
Because that's gonna like sink. You know, a lot of people.
Do you feel there's a danger for net neutrality or whatever that
means
the net neutrality argument, I don't know what that's an
artificial construct. And I bind into it.
The John at divorce act.org. Everybody, John at divorce.
act.org. All right, I'll wind up my end here. John with I got a
couple of snow job clips. First was John Miller, who was I don't
know if he's staying with CBS or not. I know he's going to he's
joining the New York Police armed forces, because that's
what they are in New York. As I guess he's going to be spokes
hold or whatever. And he was on his CBS show. That was Charlie
and Gayle. And he said something very interesting about the
similarity between being a reporter and being an
intelligence
officer you in your heart a journalist
or law enforcement official. I would recast that question to
say am I a journalist or an Intel Let's since offensive only
because there's almost no difference. Intelligence is
nothing more than understanding a problem. Intelligence with
very good analysis is understanding a problem well
enough to do something about it. The work of intelligence
officers and reporters is extraordinarily similar. You
become a briefer, you tell your boss, here's the bottom line.
Yeah, these are the potential responses. That's kind of what
you all do. Or maybe you work for the same three letter
agency.
There you go.
That's the way I read what his statement Wow.
Yeah, just said, I think he actually said it. Yeah.
Just so you know, what's coming Jeffery Stone, who was one of
the he was actually the Chicago lawyer, the only true lawyer, I
think, on the panel, who record who made 46 recommendations to
the President, of course, most of these will be implemented,
the most important one being the metadata programme from the NSA.
And he is and when you hear this clip, you'll hear very
specifically, what is going to happen with the metadata. The
choices were, leave it at the phone companies, or put it into
one private place, it's pretty clear what's going to happen.
Our recommendations basically call for a number of changes in
the programme, that are designed to enable it to continue to
serve the purpose that it does, in terms of protecting the
nation, but at the same time to be more respectful of interested
privacy and transparency, and to make sure there's a greater
degree of judicial oversight of the use of the metadata
by keeping the metadata at the telecom companies,
either at the telephone companies or to create a
separate private entity that would have control of the data,
but not to allow the NSA itself to hold that to hold the
database. Yes, yeah. That's the middleman give us rights.
Denied. Yeah,
it's gonna be a real bonanza. A real bonanza. All right, John,
what do you got? Anything else before we get out of here?
I got a bunch of corruption in China that these numbers are
kind of interesting. If you want to hear about what they're doing
but corruption in China, the EU popularity is dropping like a
rock. I'd like to hear that. And tell me about the EU popularity.
Well, this is a report Chris, this was on Russia today. So the
you know, they're trying to make it sound as though that nobody
because there's elections coming up and everybody thinks the EU
stinks now that they've you know, they've gotten their
money, EU and now they went on austerity. So you can play this
clip, it starts off showing that spinning 7% popularity amongst
the public and it's dropped to 27. They never say that in the
report, but they show it on a graph that you can hear the
rest.
Years of austerity and bailouts are taking a toll on the
public's confidence in the European Union, with latest
polls showing people's serious disappointment in the blokes
leadership. That doesn't bode well for ruling parties with key
elections on the doorstep. And here's art, here's Peter Oliver.
Now, in a few months, Europeans will be going to the polls in
what could be the most important European Parliamentary
elections, but the latest Gallup Poll statistics, well don't make
good reading for those that will be standing before the top spots
across the European Parliament. Even those countries that have
received some of the most help countries like Spain that
received 41 billion euros to bail out its failing banking
sector. Well, in 2009 59% of the population said they had faith
and they supported the European leadership. It's another country
that's traditionally been very pro EU is Ireland, they received
67 point 5 billion to bail out their failing banking system.
70% of the Irish population had previously said that they
supported the European Union. Now that number 47%. While
there's also been big declines for support of the EU, and
countries like Sweden, Finland, Austria, the Netherlands,
Denmark and the UK, for the first time since these types of
statistics have existed, the United Kingdom doesn't finish
last, when it comes to those that support the EU. Currently,
that statistic belongs to Greece with only 19% of their
population supporting the European Union. Understand.
Okay, so its numbers are falling. In support. You mean?
No, no. Only 19% in Greece? Yeah. Yeah, numbers are falling,
the number the support numbers are falling through the floor.
And it's just a matter of time.
Yeah, well, Miss Mickey wanted an entry in the Red Book. She
says the war is coming. It starts in in Turkey and spreads
westward.
She's not she's there's no need to put a prediction in there.
handbook, but I'll put it in.
She also wanted me to say some other stuff. What? Well, she got
a lot of grief for what I said about her and Israel, that she
didn't like it. She didn't have a good experience. And she was
real. Yeah. Do you remember on
love that? Oh, yeah. You said that she hated it.
I didn't quite say that. But I had I have to explain exactly
what it was. She was there with her boyfriend at the time. And
he was on the the Israeli national basketball team. Dennis
Reisman, what his name was, and she wasn't allowed to kiss him
in the street. That was one. They detained her at the airport
for four hours because they thought she was a terrorist and
was going to blow him up. Apparently, he almost missed her
flight. And she didn't like the fact that when they were driving
in the car, they said, Please roll down your windows, because
in case there's an A bomb explosion, at least the windows
won't collapse in on you. Those are the three reasons she didn't
have a good experience. There's a reasonable Yeah, but she
wanted me to make sure I mentioned that.
I got security. It's laughable. Yeah, you got some douchebag has
had a lot of questions. Take it easy, you know, figuring
something out. It's just a time way. Hey, look at me. I remember
that guy. I looked like a Nazi essentially. why would why they
were grilling me but they were treating they treat everyone as
though they're Arab Arab terrorists, right. But whatever
the case, I don't know. I enjoyed Israel a lot, I think is
a place of food. Great. Views are good stuff. So some pretty
grim. Yeah, I mean, there's parts of Israel that are just
dirty.
We gotta go, John. Because we're your your connection is
degrading beyond.
All right. In town. I'll go call people up and complain. That's
okay. It's we were it was good most of the show. When you hear
the show, it's kind of funny. Hey,
I'm doing my Nixon
in mRNA. Hi, everybody. Thank you very much for your reports.
We'll be back on Thursday. And I'm sure there'll be a lot to
report on. I'll be reading the bills. We'll be watching to see
spans and all the prep that goes in to the show that we do for
you. Thanks to your support. DeVore act.org/na. Enjoy your
Sunday, coming to you from FEMA Region six here in the Travis
heights hideout in the capital of the drone star states. In the
morning, everybody I'm Adam curry.
And then from Northern Silicon Valley am John C. Dvorak. We'll
be back on Thursday
right here on your no agenda.
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