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Hey, do what you got to do. Adam
curry, John C. Dvorak.

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Thursday, January 2 2013. Time
for your get my nation media

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assassination Episode Five,
Seven Niner. This is no agenda

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mentoring mouth interest from
sea to shining sea from FEMA

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Region six and travel sites have
an awesome tea house in the

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry

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and northern Silicon Valley.
Without further ado, I'm John C.

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Dvorak. Hill.

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Yeah, that's right, John. It is
a brand new year, a brand new

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month. Happy New Year to you
Happy National Mentoring Month

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2014.

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Happy New Year to everyone out
there listening to the stream,

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the show on the podcast, the
downloads, and everything

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thereafter.

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And it is National Mentoring
Month. It's National internet

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month. Oh, National Mentoring
Month

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or mentoring? Yes, prayer makes
so much noise. About National

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Mentoring Month. Well, I see why
it's printing so many pages.

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Well, this is by presidential
proclamation. And as you know,

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America is at its best when we
lift each other up, when we

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peruse over individual goals
while never forgetting that we

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are bound as one nation and as
one people. If we carry the

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spirit forward, if we take
responsibility for our future

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leaders and give them the tools
to succeed, America's best days

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will always lie ahead. Now
therefore, I BARACK OBAMA,

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PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA, by virtue of the

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authority vested in me by the
Constitution, the laws United

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States do hereby proclaim
January 2014 as National

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Mentoring Month, and I call upon
public officials, business and

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community leaders, educators,
podcasters and Americans across

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the country to observe this
month with appropriate

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ceremonies, activities and
programmes

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it actually says podcasters
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course it doesn't. But I mean,
what's the difference?

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Well, I'm just says I thought it
could public

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officials business and
committee, aren't we business

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and community leaders, educators
leaders part? We're certainly

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Americans across the country?
Yes. Okay. But it's not just

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national men. And I think we do
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that. And that's good. It's also

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been a number of people. Yeah,
we have so many successful spin

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offs of our podcast. Yeah.

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And it is also National Slavery
and Human Trafficking Prevention

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Month. 2014 Yet again,

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every year every month every day
human trafficking only

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we're only once a month only
once a year for one month in one

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month. Okay. Yeah. And once
again, the no agenda show was

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right in the sweet spot. We
totally try to prevent people

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from being slaves. Exactly. This
is one anyone we work very hard

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on this. Because modern day
slavery is a global tragedy come

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actually combating it. Would
that be with two T's or one T

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combating it? I think it's one
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makes you want to say, combating
it. But yeah, okay. Combating it

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requires international action.
The United States is shining a

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spotlight on the dark corners
where it persists, such as the

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United States, right there in
your community in your own home,

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placing sanctions on some of the
worst abusers like the United

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States government, giving
countries incentives to meet

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their responsibilities and
partnering with groups that help

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trafficking victims escape from
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working with other nations as
they step up their own efforts,

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and we are seeing more countries
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and improve enforcement. Please
pay no attention to the 3

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million people incarcerated
working for almost free in our

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prison system.

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Which is a form of human
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it

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to end slavery. Yes, and it is
national stalking Awareness

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Month. That's right. Every
January we draw attention to a

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crime that will affect one in
six American women at some point

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in their lives. Although young
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risk, anyone can be a victim of
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background and gender identity.
Yeah, it's a fact. Yeah. And and

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I guess what we're added to I'll
say hi to the to the hunger

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strikers outside of City Hall,
here in Austin, Texas.

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What's going on in Austin that
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There's a hunger strike. I
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blog@curry.com Day Three I
believe now for these gentlemen

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they are going there on hunger
strike until Austin stops

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Florida eating its water.

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Oh. All right. I didn't know
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nuts that you have this lovey
dovey rainbow and unicorn town?

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And everything is you know all
healthy and perfect and green

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yet they toss all this fun
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always found it to be peculiar.

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Yeah, well, the Everglades a lot
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want to if we could talk about
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congrat we have of course every
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big deal. So there's only one
the first baby born which I

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think was born at least in our
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via a

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woman that got you actually you
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or television? I did. I
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I not see it, I hadn't heard I
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wait a minute, hold on a second.
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you? You're an imposter. Did you
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sounded weird. And she had a
message to tell us about what

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the year is going to be like I
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understand that what 2014 is all
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his deal on the 31st so you
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December or January birthday,
and he didn't know what's here.

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What What shoes could then be,
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lots of surprises. So lots of
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It's funny because I have some
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dad. This is really That's
creepy. How we do those clips.

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Here's the dead someone's
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like a recipe for success to me.
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clip. To your right. Yeah, might
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Actually, the chat room is all
excited as we stream this

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programme live twice a week
Thursdays and Sundays 9am. Gitmo

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nation West time. The chatroom
is all like, Hey, John ended the

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year like in the chat room. You
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you know that they're back in
your good graces again.

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Because they benefit we
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the last show and

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you got really nice

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on him. I said they did a great
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thing in the in in solid time
the whole thing worked out fine.

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It happens until until the they
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again. But you'll be probably
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Oh, it was it was interesting.
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Well, I did I was in mind was a
happy New Year. John. Would you

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do with the new years do you
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the alcoholic beverages?

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Well, we run it in up in Port
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Very nice. We did the same we
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Miss Mickey made blinis and we
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Yeah, this let's kill Jr. has
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through the news.

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Now we we decided we were going
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actually asleep by 1130 We got
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started the new year off with a
nice nature hike. We went to

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Hamilton pools and and that was
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start off with a hangover or
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You were asleep at midnight. Yes
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the military.

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Yes, sir. Very nice. My bed was
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Is there anybody here with us in
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I love you know, when someone
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store on the street for some it
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it comes from my my upbringing,
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see, particularly when when
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give you the stink guy. No. And
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me like, like, what do I look
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sorry. It just pops out. I can't
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The I'm sorry, buzzkill gene,
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man. This is now of course, I
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days, maybe I just had to lay
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it on big time now. And instead
of just saying, hey, once you

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get the flu, like I had the
swine flu, you'll recall in

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2009, and it didn't kill me. And
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caught the swine flu again, as
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swine flu.

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Yeah, you know, you guys are the
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know that every year between 50
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because of the flu alone. And
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virus. That nasty swine flu

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nasty swine flu. Hold on, we get
to put trying, John, is that

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nasty swine flu is not just that
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back in

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oh nine. That's wreaking havoc
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the country but everybody's

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sick. John, are you sick? Are
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with nearby Massachusetts in New
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widespread flu outbreak numbers.
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officials say we're next

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flu outbreak numbers make sure
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for. One thing we know Always
that flu is in fact on its way

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here. It's coming from the
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the west and the north Rhode
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water. It's just water. This is
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and Health Director Dr. Michael
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Massachusetts are now considered
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for flu like symptoms here in
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flu like symptoms always gotta
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And doctor find says that means
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They're way up there, though
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procrastinating and get a flu
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Ah, see? Wasn't was not when
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until I'm done with this report.

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In a typical year, worry about
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year around the country. We're
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even deaths in young adults.

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What Where's this coming from?
But what data are there? So we

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have a pandemic? Outbreak not
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numbers are up there's no
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people. Where's this coming to

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a question about this?
Something's baffling me? Sure.

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You remember, we did a extensive
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for about a year probably. Yeah.
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World Health as a pandemic.

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They change now let's let's do
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qualifications of what is a
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inside the World Health
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reported by mainstream media as
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a vested interest in propagating
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against the swine flu. They had
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yeah, that yes.

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Well, the question is, if you
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that little era, there were two
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is that the h one and one H one
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separate from the other mixture,
the ad mixture of ad libbed flu

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vaccines that they you know,
they went to China. So all of

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this is going to be this this
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here what it was,

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there was a specific vaccination
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to be for this very specific
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And the second thing that was
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No, it was multiple two. Yeah,
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was at least two shots. You had
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nasty and dangerous that they
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into two shots. So how do they
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the question this will be like
an ask Adam but not really. I

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don't want to hear the jingle.
If that was true, then what

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changed because now they have
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the regular flu shot a get which
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they used to say you needed two
shots. Now how did it become one

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shot within the mixture of all
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John, this is a baffling
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To answer it, well, no,

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I can just end up with what I
had. I don't have any answer

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other than this bullcrap. But
you know what? You have two

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weeks slave. So regardless of
who you are, it's a good year to

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be immunised and 2014 a good
year to be immunised? I

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think that's going to be the
theme of the show.

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It's a good year here to

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be those of you who are dead set
against being immunised.

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Hold on a second. That would be
us. Yeah, that's

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Dr. Fine would like to paint a
picture of what the flu is

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really like. Okay, are you
ready? Oh, no,

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did not because you're gonna
paint the picture for you. You

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deny Are you?

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For most of us. It's a fever of
100 203 being knocked flat on

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your back. You know, it makes
you ache so much that your hair

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hurts. And for many people, it's
been at work for one to two

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weeks.

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That's the mean. That's the
mean. You don't want to be out

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of work for one to two weeks. Do
you? Slave. That's the mean. So

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they're going to you watch it's
going to be you have two weeks.

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You're in it you were hit by
this fluid. You're working? Yes.

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The show and you sounded fine.
By the way. Did you have any of

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these symptoms? Maybe he had a
different flu?

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I always have hair pain.

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Well from your hair. So

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hair, of course. Of course my my
entire my lungs hurt and

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it's too late now because you
obviously don't have the right

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genes. But don't you think it'd
be funny with you in that hair

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on MTV for those old timers that
listen to the show here? That if

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you actually went bald,

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you know that sounds so fucking
hilarious, John.

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No, I'm just saying wouldn't you
think it would be because you'd

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probably still keep the long
haired dog guys like This, they

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got this they keep the long hair
and then they end up with this

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bald and a ponytail. Yeah,
there's

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a lot of guys like that for sure
there are Yeah. And you know

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what you need you and I need to
be very quiet because the hair

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gods have been good to us. Don't
piss them off. It can still

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happen. You're on your
Borderline by the way.

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Yeah. So even when I was a kid,
okay, so it's

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standard operating procedure for
you. Well, you're lucky you have

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a good head of hair for your
age. Mate. Thank

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you. Thank you, son.

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I don't mean it like that. But
most most of the guys I know who

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are younger than I do got

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like, I know. This is stupid to
talk about this in the show but

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you do have you still have free
will out there. Haven't seen

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him. Adam. He still got the hair
and he could probably still

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bouffant it out if he wanted to
easily

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easily. Yes, I could. And it
grows very fast. My hair. And

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it's because I'm happy in
general.

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Ah, I wanted to mention that I
am still running on Windows 8.1

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Pro preview on this machine.
It's

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really funny the minute you said
that the sound got really

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crappy. I'm not kidding you. You
weren't I wanted to mention I'm

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still a robo. Bucha the way I'm
not kidding. That's what

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happened. But it's okay. You're
good now? What? If you really

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went away? Because I lost you. I
completely lost you say

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something.

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But it's funny because I lost
you a second ago. I think we

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have your connection is getting
flaky. Anyway, I got a message

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when the machine booted, telling
me to buy the damn thing.

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Oh, because this is a preview
thing. Yeah. And it says

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it will be disabled. And they
said you got some time to buy

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it. It's good to get to work.
It's this is gonna work now this

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morning. And now I was gonna
move it to the machine. But I

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figured like, I wanted to do
this live on the garrison

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experiment.

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What happened? Break live on the
air. What a great idea.

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It said it will reboot in two
hours. So why? I don't know why

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why?

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I'm thinking I don't want it to
move. Oh, this is no good.

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Well, that means that that means
right now it's 925. We started

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about nine. So at 11 o'clock. My
machine is going to reboot. Yeah

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or not. I don't believe it will.
Okay. I believe I believe that

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having done this, but I'm
familiar enough with Microsoft.

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I believe I'm going to get a
message for

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why why would do they want to
reboot just to spite you? Or is

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that like is that so that so
that you buy it?

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Preview and they don't want you
to think you're gonna get away

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with it. You're not getting the
operating system for free, chump

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is what the message is.

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Huh, interesting. Well, it what
is it worth to you? What is it?

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What are they charging for that
a Windows eight OS?

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I think for people that were
preview users, I think it's 40

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bucks, which is reasonable. And

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for regular slaves. It's

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$500.

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Now You're kidding, right? I
can't.

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It's a couple 100 bucks is
really? Wow, what's

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the value? Man? That doesn't
sound like a good value.

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Now if it reboots every two
hours.

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Did you see what Mayor Bloomberg
did on his way out just before

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the a lot of people?

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Yeah, he gave the finger and
walked out of the office. It was

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horrible.

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Did something else he signed he
signed the one little bill into

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law. But what a lot of people
do. I knew years wouldn't you

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have to have new year's
resolutions? Yeah, some of that

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will be what do you think the
number one New Year's resolution

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is lose weight? Yeah, that's
probably true. And then I think

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smoking and drinking is probably
not far behind. Yeah. And so he

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he made sure that those who
wanted to quit smoking with some

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assistance can just forget about
it. No matter how you feel about

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Mayor Michael Bloomberg, there's
no denying his impact on the day

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to day life of New Yorkers over
the past 12 years taking on

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everything from birth control to
big gulps. So it seems almost

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fitting that in his final act as
Mayor Bloomberg signed into law

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a controversial initiative that
extends the city's smoking ban

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to include e cigarettes and
vaping the law would make it

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illegal to use the battery
operated cigs and offices

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restaurants, bars and parks but
some critics including anti

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smoking advocates say the ban
may end up doing more harm than

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good. There's a lot of people
wanting to you know transition

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through an e cig

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No wonder we did this is like a
trend because we have a similar

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situation happening here at Cal
there's I've ever clipped. And

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they are also banning e cigs but
a lot more.

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Okay for students, faculty and
employees of the University of

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California who smoke this year
could bring a new set of

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challenges as the entire system
goes smoke free. Starting today

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smoking and the use of all
tobacco products including

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cigarettes, e cigarettes,
cigars, snuff, waterpipes pipes,

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hookahs and chewing tobacco are
prohibited on all campuses and

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facilities both indoors and
outdoors. Officials with the UC

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system say is offering an
extensive selection of stop

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smoking resources to anyone
who's interested.

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Wow. Smoking too, but Well,
smokeless, I have to say, when I

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was in, obviously the room here
sometimes, you know, the chewing

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tobacco. I don't even want to be
around you as a human being with

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your, with your Pepsi you can
that you're spitting dribble

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into whoever

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it must have been like in bars
in the old west where they had

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two tunes. Yeah, I think because
the you know, the guys weren't

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hitting those things, not you
know, nine out of 10 times. So

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sign somebody had to clean that
mess up.

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But just the whole process of
putting that in your mouth is

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very annoying. I don't
understand it. I've tried to

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snooze, those little pouches of
tobacco. I mean, not not in the

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past two years. But when we are
in Los Angeles. I think we tried

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to quit once for about a month.
Not so successful. And I think

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it was mainly because we were
using the E cigarettes at the

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time and I tried a couple of
those snooze things. I don't

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know what you're talking about
snooze is it's I think it's made

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by it's a camel product, or it's
made by camel, or the Marlboro

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Man may come to or Philip
Morris. And it's a little pouch

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of tobacco. But it's it's like a
little little little mini pillow

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and you can stick it in your
your your gum like you were

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chewing tobacco. But you don't
have to spit out all this goop

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all the time. And worse,
actually, you swallow whatever

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nicotine stuff is in there. And
it's probably 10 times more

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addictive than than smoking. But
it gives you a really good

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satisfied feeling.

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I have my chewing tobacco story.
So I'm working at the refinery

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in Union oil and roadeo and I'm
floating around. I don't know

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why. That was one of the guys
who works in the tank farm. And

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we got into some conversation
over there and about how nobody

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the refinery smokes for obvious
reasons. Yeah, you blow it up.

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But there's a lot of addicts and
they all use chewing tobacco. So

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half the workers especially
during this era when everyone

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was smoking, they were all
chewing tobacco and and so he

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said Yeah, have you ever tried
chewing tobacco says no. And so

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he showed me you know, it gave
me a pinch and told me how to do

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it. Chew it and all the rest and
meanwhile we're looking at some

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tanks I'm climbing this tank to
get to the top to look down at

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the time I got up there I was so
wasted from this stuff. I was

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dizzy Yeah, it was horrible it's
very destroy comes crawling back

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to the ground and got no no I
didn't get sick but it was just

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like wow this stuff is
ridiculously strong. Yeah. I can

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hear and the guy says to me says
ES is most of the people that

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switched from Tibet just from
smoking to chewing tobacco were

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where they were worse off he
says is much much more nicotine

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you get more addicted as says
terrible he said as he put

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another chunk or just whatever.

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It's so crazy. We had to we had
my daughter and her girlfriend

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here and Christina has pretty
much she doesn't have the I have

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an addictive personality so if I
smoke a cigarette there'll be a

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second one would be a pack and
we'll be back on I just know

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this and girlfriends smokes and
but like a smoker no really like

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you know after a meal or going
in the morning with coffee. And

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of course we're not having you
know, can't smoke in the house.

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Not that we when we were smokers
we did of course. And so she's

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smoking out in the back but just
having someone who smokes around

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you. I can't believe that I
didn't realise how follow this

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really is is totally

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bad. When you have a cigarette
before breakfast and one I mean

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the classic smoker to me as
someone who smokes at the table

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during breakfast during
breakfast and then puts the

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cigarette out in one of the egg
yolks I've

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never done that but I've come
pretty close I really enjoyed my

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smoking and I used to roll my
own I choose to tobacco you know

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it was all very

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it was a whole ritual out of
smoking. Yeah.

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And I wish I wish I could just
kneel once in a while have a

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have a nice smoke but I can't I
just can't because I know what

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will happen and you can't do it.
This is a stressful situation.

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Boom it'd be done to be over and
this and I just have to remind

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myself it took me a year and a
half and we've been more than a

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year half now of not smoking to
realise how bad someone really

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smells. Oh, they

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stink

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did I think like that too?

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Yeah, really. But you had also
the realm of pot,

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which was kind of attractive
isn't he's kind of an attractive

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guy. I don't know why.

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He was the patchouli oil

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and a peace sign around my neck.
Perfect. Well, glad we're done

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with that. I feel Very, very
good, very strong. And man, I

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just got to reiterate how my
life has changed with that spin

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class, which I still do twice a
week. Oh my God, I feel just so

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good.

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That's good. That's good.

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Speaking of pot, it sounds like
Mm hmm. Damn, I'm really trying

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to work on that in 2014 Do you
remember when we were looking

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for the answer to the question
everyone was asking what the

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hell is wrong with Colorado?
Because what is up with the

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schools in Colorado the kids are
killing each other what's wrong?

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I don't know if we actually use
that voice but that that a lot

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of my friends certainly in the
cabin in the Northern

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California, up near you
literally said what is wrong?

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What can be we don't understand.
Well, the answer came Colorado

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schools

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00:25:54,510 --> 00:25:56,580
have a pot problem that would be

450
00:25:59,010 --> 00:26:01,890
Oh, yes, this is how we're gonna
roll baby.

451
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,940
Where do people get it? I don't
know exactly. But just like I

452
00:26:05,940 --> 00:26:09,360
know that kids smoking a lot.
Now that it's legal. Everybody's

453
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:13,770
just getting it. While still
illegal for anyone under the age

454
00:26:13,770 --> 00:26:17,310
of 21. Younger people are
finding ways to get their hands

455
00:26:17,310 --> 00:26:21,210
on marijuana. And we found they
don't shy away from talking

456
00:26:21,210 --> 00:26:26,460
about it. I see people selling
it and I think it's easy for

457
00:26:26,460 --> 00:26:30,630
people to get now. Even for
somebody who's underage Yeah,

458
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:31,800
are really pissed off.

459
00:26:32,010 --> 00:26:36,060
Teacher was so hard to get it
before they legalised it Yeah,

460
00:26:36,060 --> 00:26:37,710
it was almost impossible

461
00:26:37,740 --> 00:26:41,400
couldn't get out man in it. But
this this report, which went on

462
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,810
for five minutes only clipped
40s 45 seconds. It just goes on

463
00:26:45,810 --> 00:26:49,200
and on. I know lots of people,
most of my friends use it. Why

464
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,720
do they? In fact, I'm high right
now

465
00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:52,530
want to use it?

466
00:26:52,890 --> 00:26:55,230
Why do they want to use it? Cuz
you know, few makes you feel

467
00:26:55,230 --> 00:26:55,440
good.

468
00:26:55,740 --> 00:26:59,790
I feel like that it's not
typically classified as like a

469
00:26:59,820 --> 00:27:03,840
harmful drug. Like as meth or
whatever. Do you know if anybody

470
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,150
comes to school high or gets
high during lunch break? For

471
00:27:06,150 --> 00:27:09,870
example? Oh, yeah, this is?
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

472
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,760
It happened before

473
00:27:11,790 --> 00:27:15,690
I was getting high and going to
school. 30 years ago. Come on.

474
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,910
This is not new ever happened

475
00:27:17,910 --> 00:27:21,240
before Adam is because they
legalised it and something's got

476
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,050
to be done.

477
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:27,180
You know, this is this is a part
of school. You're supposed to be

478
00:27:27,180 --> 00:27:30,540
high and go to school. Once in a
while.

479
00:27:30,750 --> 00:27:33,180
Every school is like we have
this slave training schools.

480
00:27:33,180 --> 00:27:34,290
Yeah, I'd be better once

481
00:27:34,290 --> 00:27:37,410
in a while. I mean, it's a part
of growing up.

482
00:27:37,710 --> 00:27:41,580
There was not when I was a kid.
It was strictly a college

483
00:27:42,090 --> 00:27:42,930
situation.

484
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:45,810
I bet you there was drinking
when you were growing up? Wasn't

485
00:27:45,810 --> 00:27:48,150
that the big thing? That's
drink? Oh, that's absolutely

486
00:27:48,180 --> 00:27:48,630
alright. So

487
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,250
driving was the thing

488
00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:53,340
that would turn out for
everybody

489
00:27:53,550 --> 00:27:54,750
seemed to be okay with God.

490
00:27:56,130 --> 00:27:58,920
Yeah, it's not uncommon at all.
There's a bunch of people that

491
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,010
come to the school. Hi. Well,
some teens seem to think using

492
00:28:02,010 --> 00:28:05,340
marijuana is okay. Schools are
trying to send a message that

493
00:28:05,340 --> 00:28:09,510
it's not. Pot is now the number
one reason students are kicked

494
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:10,740
out of Colorado. I learned

495
00:28:10,740 --> 00:28:15,840
from you. Okay. That bring back
any any memories? Do you

496
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,050
remember?

497
00:28:17,310 --> 00:28:20,670
My children have never had any
of these issues? Do you not see

498
00:28:20,670 --> 00:28:25,080
kids that were raised properly
and his parents thought Oh, hold

499
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,260
on

500
00:28:25,260 --> 00:28:28,470
a second. You're telling me that
none of your kids ever went to

501
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:32,280
school? Hi. Please. Oh, please.

502
00:28:33,149 --> 00:28:36,779
Go get me if you die when do you
at school, but they didn't go to

503
00:28:36,779 --> 00:28:39,209
school high. Especially. It's
pretty hard to do when

504
00:28:39,210 --> 00:28:44,040
you're homeschooled. That's
exactly why you got to get high.

505
00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:48,510
Now. Well, that there is a point
there if you're home, but then

506
00:28:48,510 --> 00:28:52,020
maybe the homeschool was fun.
Yeah, it wasn't

507
00:28:52,020 --> 00:28:55,230
like going for fun in the
regular school. A bunch of

508
00:28:55,230 --> 00:28:56,310
people who haranguing

509
00:28:56,340 --> 00:28:59,250
going to the slave institution.
Yes. No wonder you. But there

510
00:28:59,250 --> 00:29:00,090
was this commercial

511
00:29:00,090 --> 00:29:02,100
plenty of kids that aren't
stoned. Did that begin the

512
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:06,180
Colorado schools too? This is
just a hysteric report. Yes,

513
00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:09,120
designed for one thing to
overturn the laws and is being

514
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,730
propagated by the Justice
Department because they're

515
00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:14,670
besides themselves what to do
about Yes, it's lovely. It's

516
00:29:14,670 --> 00:29:18,210
great. And factors are just
gonna be effect has already

517
00:29:18,210 --> 00:29:20,730
started. It appears to be that
there's going to be a lot of

518
00:29:20,730 --> 00:29:25,290
drug tourism, people passing
going into Colorado because you

519
00:29:25,290 --> 00:29:27,450
apparently even if you don't
live there, you can get like a

520
00:29:27,450 --> 00:29:30,450
quarter ounce, I think is the
max. I was listening to a radio

521
00:29:30,450 --> 00:29:34,230
report on this. And you can get
a quarter ounce because it talks

522
00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:36,840
about a lot of this stuff going
on in Colorado and Washington

523
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,970
because Washington is also
legalised. And there's been some

524
00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:45,300
stores opened up, ready to go.
And it's, you know, it's just

525
00:29:45,330 --> 00:29:47,460
it's just going to be part of
society. It's not going to be

526
00:29:47,670 --> 00:29:50,190
it's not going to it's like
Portugal once you make things

527
00:29:50,190 --> 00:29:54,150
legal, they did think calms
down. It doesn't go You're

528
00:29:54,150 --> 00:29:55,830
making it sound like it's going
crazy.

529
00:29:55,860 --> 00:29:59,580
I this it's the same with
bicycles. By the way. I saw a

530
00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:04,380
report or it was a couple of
expats living in Amsterdam did a

531
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,600
like a mini documentary, I'll
have to see if I can find it

532
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,320
somewhere. It's on YouTube,
about bicycles. And when you see

533
00:30:10,770 --> 00:30:14,310
how the bicycle traffic in the
Netherlands works, it really is

534
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:17,430
astounding. It's like birds who
are flying in a flock and all of

535
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:20,400
a sudden they go left and right,
and they never seem to bump into

536
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,870
each other and do justly each
other out of the sky. And they

537
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:27,150
stood at a particular
intersection, where they

538
00:30:27,150 --> 00:30:30,390
counted. I think they counted in
one morning, you know, 100,000

539
00:30:30,390 --> 00:30:34,860
bicycles, intersected cross,
including cars and trams and

540
00:30:34,860 --> 00:30:38,010
buses and nothing happened, you
know, and people, they don't

541
00:30:38,010 --> 00:30:40,260
when they almost bumped into
each other. There's no yelling

542
00:30:40,260 --> 00:30:44,400
and shouting, say, Oh, I'm
sorry. I said with a little

543
00:30:44,430 --> 00:30:52,170
sound. But there's no fighting.
No, no one's honking and yelling

544
00:30:52,170 --> 00:30:53,220
and cursing and,

545
00:30:53,460 --> 00:30:56,940
and that took the ring that
little bell Alon Yeah, the belt,

546
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,870
which I miss here. You know,
people don't understand a bell

547
00:31:00,870 --> 00:31:05,430
and how to use it. And it took
it took day maybe took 100 years

548
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:10,320
for that culture of bicycling to
be integrated and you can't just

549
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,620
expect it to work in San
Francisco or in Austin. Now we

550
00:31:13,620 --> 00:31:15,660
have the city bikes, which are
cute, but it's

551
00:31:15,660 --> 00:31:17,910
dangerous city bikes now in the
city. It's

552
00:31:17,940 --> 00:31:21,390
dangerous is dangerous, and it
will remain dangerous. And

553
00:31:21,390 --> 00:31:23,490
by the way, we're the helmets
for those city bikes.

554
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,730
Oh, screw that. Screw you and
your helmet. You don't need a

555
00:31:26,730 --> 00:31:27,480
helmet.

556
00:31:28,110 --> 00:31:31,020
Well these guys do. And by the
way, when did what is it that

557
00:31:31,110 --> 00:31:33,690
why don't the police are always
looking for new revenue. Do

558
00:31:33,690 --> 00:31:36,390
something about these bicycles?
Who don't stop it stops

559
00:31:36,420 --> 00:31:40,080
one second. Hold on. No, no,
listen to me. Yeah, in the

560
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,830
Netherlands. How many people die
from not having Do you see

561
00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:49,500
anyone in Holland riding with a
bike helmet? No. No, maybe a

562
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:50,550
wool cat by

563
00:31:50,670 --> 00:31:53,730
a pedestrian should wear the
helmets you can get hit by those

564
00:31:53,730 --> 00:31:55,320
bikes. Even that

565
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,040
doesn't really have bike lanes
everywhere even it's just

566
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,540
culture it takes a long time
it's not just rules know what

567
00:32:03,540 --> 00:32:06,390
the bicycle is in the
Netherlands completely red light

568
00:32:06,390 --> 00:32:10,920
is go faster. They completely
ignore that and it still works.

569
00:32:11,460 --> 00:32:14,970
It works it's not a regulation
thing. It's a cultural thing and

570
00:32:14,970 --> 00:32:20,430
it takes a long time a long time
and it will work if you know if

571
00:32:20,790 --> 00:32:24,000
if people want to use that mode
of transportation everything

572
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,430
figures itself out but you can't
do it with rules it doesn't work

573
00:32:26,430 --> 00:32:30,600
that way. Same with with
marijuana doesn't work that way

574
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,720
something you can grow in your
backyard doesn't work that way.

575
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,000
No.

576
00:32:38,970 --> 00:32:41,340
Well, they're going to try to do
everything they can to make it

577
00:32:41,340 --> 00:32:44,340
look like all hell's broken
loose in Colorado with stories

578
00:32:44,340 --> 00:32:48,360
like that, for sure. Oh, the
kids. Oh, we've got a picture of

579
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,650
a five year old smoking a joint.
That's you get to see that

580
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,670
you're gonna see a toddler. Oh
and a toddler go what happens

581
00:32:56,670 --> 00:33:00,750
when the toy the toddler. The
parents were smoking dope in the

582
00:33:00,750 --> 00:33:03,090
living room. And then they went
to the kitchen to get some

583
00:33:03,090 --> 00:33:06,870
peanut butter and jelly. And the
toddler came up and saw the

584
00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:09,420
joint and took a couple of puffs
and had to be rushed to the

585
00:33:09,420 --> 00:33:12,210
hospital. I can do these
stories. Yes, I

586
00:33:12,210 --> 00:33:17,850
know. I know. I know. It's it's
almost like wow, we're going to

587
00:33:17,850 --> 00:33:21,510
do another year of this. So easy
to predict.

588
00:33:21,930 --> 00:33:25,470
Yeah, he's walking down Main
Street everywhere. Well, most of

589
00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:28,050
our listeners I think can can
spot these things a mile away.

590
00:33:28,050 --> 00:33:31,350
Although they still miss a
couple of people out there are

591
00:33:31,350 --> 00:33:36,630
still sceptical about us. I had
what you know, the like the for

592
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:40,320
example, this guy, Jordan,
Jordan Maxwell, who I've been

593
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,920
trying to get to the beginning
of the hoax about who was the

594
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,650
who was Jordan Maxwell Jordan.
Max was a public speaker who has

595
00:33:46,650 --> 00:33:50,730
been for the last 50 years been
promoting the idea that that the

596
00:33:50,730 --> 00:33:54,750
whole country is a sham and
we're part of some corporation

597
00:33:54,750 --> 00:33:57,810
that we don't know about and and
the officers are in England and

598
00:33:57,810 --> 00:33:59,970
the Rothschilds are running
everything. Yeah.

599
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,470
So now hold on one second. I
need to know exactly who this

600
00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:06,900
guy is. Hold on. Let me just
look at me. Let me let me do it.

601
00:34:06,900 --> 00:34:12,990
We always do. Because you've
gotten me into this as well and

602
00:34:12,990 --> 00:34:17,100
and and now you've You dragged
me into the sorry, yeah, you

603
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:20,670
dragged me into this and the
amount of grief I get now

604
00:34:20,700 --> 00:34:23,160
I'm doing date searches. But but
I'm

605
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:26,489
backing down backing you up on
this stuff. And this is and this

606
00:34:26,489 --> 00:34:29,009
is what is making people very,
very angry.

607
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,220
Because a lot of people have
bought into a little hook line

608
00:34:32,220 --> 00:34:35,340
and sinker. I had a guy who sent
me a note saying I want a

609
00:34:35,340 --> 00:34:40,920
reference to this copy of the
Congressional Record showing

610
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,460
where this

611
00:34:43,590 --> 00:34:45,810
this is the the act of 1871

612
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:50,189
Yeah, 1871. You look at any of
these bills, by the way, which I

613
00:34:50,189 --> 00:34:51,149
think you'll enjoy

614
00:34:51,420 --> 00:34:54,300
this. We're gonna listen to a
clip from this guy Jordan

615
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:58,110
Maxwell, who has a sparkly
starry background on his web

616
00:34:58,110 --> 00:35:01,530
page at Jordan Maxwell dot com
really?

617
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,140
I just want you to get an idea
of the kind of ill logic and

618
00:35:07,140 --> 00:35:11,160
craziness that people eventually
lap up because you hear it

619
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,660
enough and people reiterated and
this was just ran on info well

620
00:35:15,660 --> 00:35:15,930
hold

621
00:35:15,930 --> 00:35:18,660
on one second before you go
anywhere. Let me read from his

622
00:35:18,660 --> 00:35:24,630
own website known by close
friends as simply rusty Jordan

623
00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:29,040
Maxwell born Russell J. Pine.
Apparently he needs a stage name

624
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:33,510
continues as a preeminent
scholar and lecturer in the

625
00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:38,580
fields of secret societies,
occult philosophies and UFO

626
00:35:38,580 --> 00:35:45,540
ology since 1959 His work is not
only fascinating to explore, but

627
00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:54,240
too important to ignore Are you
sure? What's what is your middle

628
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:58,410
name stands for? What is C stand
for? What is C cash? You are

629
00:35:58,410 --> 00:36:01,410
John. Sounds like I got someone
else. Maybe you want to play

630
00:36:01,410 --> 00:36:02,940
something from Infowars?

631
00:36:04,260 --> 00:36:06,720
No, it was it was it's been
around but they've David

632
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:10,650
highlighted it. Because I'll
tell you the background of this

633
00:36:10,650 --> 00:36:13,980
because he had Jordan Maxwell
did this long lecture that was

634
00:36:13,980 --> 00:36:18,540
just an eye roller it went on
for three hours. And and it was

635
00:36:18,690 --> 00:36:21,390
the title of it. If you look at
it on the YouTube it says

636
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:24,750
Infowars refuses to play this
clip.

637
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,040
Oh, okay. Well, that he might be
telling the truth actually. So

638
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,150
I'm not I'm interested.

639
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,970
Well, no, no, now they're
playing his clip. They played

640
00:36:32,970 --> 00:36:34,950
the shortcut because he
apparently has been retired for

641
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:38,310
a while he's must be done and
how old he is. But he now he

642
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:41,940
just now he's, he's, I swear to
God, in this clip, he's just

643
00:36:41,940 --> 00:36:44,580
essentially wearing his
underwear. So you have to

644
00:36:44,580 --> 00:36:49,410
imagine a guy in his skivvies
discussing this stuff.

645
00:36:50,279 --> 00:36:55,139
You know, I have watched so much
of this kind of stuff. And I

646
00:36:55,139 --> 00:36:58,079
lainnya you know, I mean, I like
You're like you starting I mean,

647
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:00,839
Jesus, John, you start off with
MK Ultra. And now this.

648
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,270
You are a corporation, your body
has been bought and sold on the

649
00:37:06,270 --> 00:37:10,080
New York Stock Exchange every
day, and you have no idea in the

650
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,590
world. How the world really
works.

651
00:37:13,710 --> 00:37:18,300
Yeah. And you know, what, seven,
eight years ago, six, even six

652
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:21,870
years ago, I would watch this
stuff and how big Yeah, man.

653
00:37:21,870 --> 00:37:27,720
Yeah. Until I really started to
learn how to read documents. And

654
00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:29,640
there's just no evidence to back
this up.

655
00:37:29,820 --> 00:37:32,940
I like to know where this stock
is. I would like to short myself

656
00:37:34,050 --> 00:37:36,660
short myself and quit the show
and make a fortune.

657
00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:42,120
So people talk about having to
go to

658
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,960
court they talked about I am
short on Divorce Act this week.

659
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,830
The government does this and the
government that I that

660
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,680
really you don't really want me
to listen to this day. This is

661
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,410
Lee just a human remains in
enlisting

662
00:37:55,770 --> 00:37:58,740
because they gotta go to court.
Once you shut these here, the

663
00:37:58,770 --> 00:37:59,190
court.

664
00:38:00,750 --> 00:38:02,790
I'm not scared of court. But why
don't people

665
00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:06,900
go to court? Because you played
basketball court? You played

666
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:09,300
tennis court? Wake up?

667
00:38:11,610 --> 00:38:20,160
Wake up people. Let me try it.
You gotta wake up people. You'd

668
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,600
like basketball on the court?
Like tennis on a car. It's got

669
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,290
me on a guard.

670
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:28,470
Trying to do my Alex Jones. I
don't think I can do it. 53

671
00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:30,840
years? No, not even close.

672
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:34,890
Very much anymore. The reason
why you go to court, it's a

673
00:38:34,890 --> 00:38:39,870
game. It's like tennis, and how
they play tennis you play when

674
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:45,180
you're playing on a rocket is a
good way to go in to a

675
00:38:45,180 --> 00:38:49,350
basketball game to play on the
court. The whole idea is you

676
00:38:49,350 --> 00:38:53,640
have two teams, one team of a
team of lawyers and another team

677
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,140
of lawyers. And the whole idea
of a court because it's maritime

678
00:38:58,140 --> 00:39:04,200
Admiralty international banking
law. The whole idea is to put

679
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,760
the ball back at the other guy's
court.

680
00:39:06,660 --> 00:39:09,540
There's a couple of so here's
what I do have an opinion on a

681
00:39:09,540 --> 00:39:13,470
lot of this stuff. There's a
difference between international

682
00:39:13,470 --> 00:39:17,850
law and and common law and of
course, we have commercial

683
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:22,920
common code. Yeah, there's a lot
of law there's a lot of a lot of

684
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:26,490
you know, it's all make believe
it's just rules that we've kind

685
00:39:26,490 --> 00:39:30,360
of agreed on that have been
written in some form and it's

686
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,400
just all derivative of, of some
original Magna Carta in some

687
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,870
ways. And this is you know, and
what people call law and a human

688
00:39:39,870 --> 00:39:44,280
rights law and internet freedom
law and all of this. It's all

689
00:39:44,490 --> 00:39:49,110
it's all in people's minds is
all what they make up. And this

690
00:39:49,110 --> 00:39:54,540
has nothing to do with America
being a corporation or not, and

691
00:39:54,540 --> 00:40:00,000
it doesn't really even matter.
It doesn't matter. You can bring

692
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,170
corporation to its knees as
easily as you can a country. You

693
00:40:04,170 --> 00:40:07,200
can build up a corporation to be
a great corporate, I

694
00:40:07,230 --> 00:40:09,750
made this argument before and I
think it's I think you're I

695
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:14,760
mean, there is that element that
what if even if it was true what

696
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,270
there was as a make Yeah. But
it's not true and is ludicrous

697
00:40:18,270 --> 00:40:20,970
and is beside the point and it
just causes nothing but

698
00:40:20,970 --> 00:40:24,870
confusion amongst these people
that buy into this that we're a

699
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:25,770
corporation.

700
00:40:27,330 --> 00:40:30,630
No, I'm sorry. I don't
understand the your obsession

701
00:40:31,020 --> 00:40:33,540
with other people's obsession
who gives a crap I don't

702
00:40:33,540 --> 00:40:34,020
understand

703
00:40:34,050 --> 00:40:39,450
I crap. I care about what? I
don't know yet. And getting to

704
00:40:39,450 --> 00:40:40,830
the bottom of it. Maybe

705
00:40:40,830 --> 00:40:43,140
you care because that no, here's
what it is. I know what it is.

706
00:40:43,140 --> 00:40:45,630
This guy seems to be actually
selling books he actually

707
00:40:45,630 --> 00:40:50,340
published for 1999. Maybe that's
what angers you that he did it.

708
00:40:50,370 --> 00:40:51,240
He put a book to

709
00:40:52,530 --> 00:40:54,930
obtain me for doing my research,
put up a

710
00:40:54,930 --> 00:40:59,430
web page with some sparkly stars
in which you could easily do and

711
00:40:59,430 --> 00:41:02,910
he's selling his book. Why don't
you get on this bandwagon? The

712
00:41:02,910 --> 00:41:06,660
good you could do Astro cycles
or whatever people will buy it.

713
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:09,960
Look at it. He's got he's got a
million books out. This guy's

714
00:41:10,350 --> 00:41:16,260
he's his own little publishing
empire. Yeah, yeah. That's your

715
00:41:16,260 --> 00:41:16,950
problem.

716
00:41:17,130 --> 00:41:20,880
Anyway, it could be it could be
I could be just jealous. I think

717
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,880
you are. That always used to be
a thing of Bill Gates a bad guy?

718
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,970
Yeah. Just jealous of Bill
Gates. Oh, my God.

719
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:29,910
Did you hear about the email
with Bill Gates?

720
00:41:30,690 --> 00:41:33,900
I bet you what did he did that
you won money? No, no, no.

721
00:41:34,620 --> 00:41:41,520
So the see Robert Wilson, on
Monday, killed himself Robert

722
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:47,130
Wilson, very, very wealthy hedge
fund guy who was 86. Or you had

723
00:41:47,130 --> 00:41:49,830
a horrible stroke. And he wrote
it. I didn't know when it's

724
00:41:49,830 --> 00:41:53,430
published. He wrote a suicide
note. And he jumped out of his

725
00:41:53,460 --> 00:41:57,840
upper west side high rise
apartment and died. And he had

726
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:03,930
given away an estimated $500
million of his you know, 800

727
00:42:04,050 --> 00:42:08,220
million or billion dollar
wealth. And his goal was to give

728
00:42:08,220 --> 00:42:12,420
away most of it before he died.
Hey, he told a friend recently I

729
00:42:12,420 --> 00:42:17,280
only have about 100 million to
go. So after this happens a an

730
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,050
email exchange is released
between him and Bill Gates. Are

731
00:42:22,050 --> 00:42:24,420
you googling this? Because I'm
just gonna You don't have to?

732
00:42:24,420 --> 00:42:25,620
I'll just tell you what it is.

733
00:42:25,650 --> 00:42:28,440
Yeah, I'm just want to see a
picture that guy and some other

734
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,520
stuff go on listening. So the
course I'm googling it, that's

735
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,690
what we do. Both of us

736
00:42:33,690 --> 00:42:36,030
people don't people think you're
doing. They think John's not

737
00:42:36,030 --> 00:42:38,610
interested. He's doing his tax
returns or something. They

738
00:42:38,610 --> 00:42:41,490
will that to do tax returns?
Well, I'm googling.

739
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,950
All right, from Bill Gates to
Robert W. Wilson. This is June

740
00:42:43,950 --> 00:42:47,880
16, of 2010. I'm writing to
Robert, I'm writing to let you

741
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,240
know about an idea we're calling
the giving pledge that came out

742
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:54,210
of a number of conversations
that Melinda and Warren and I

743
00:42:54,210 --> 00:42:56,940
had with a number of people over
the past year. By the way, this

744
00:42:56,940 --> 00:43:02,460
is a recurring theme with Bill's
emails, Melinda Warren and I

745
00:43:02,460 --> 00:43:06,750
like you'd like you're in title
of a book. It sounds like you're

746
00:43:06,750 --> 00:43:10,770
having sex, which is sad and
scary. Yeah, we were all in bed

747
00:43:10,770 --> 00:43:13,590
smoking a joint the other day
and we said, hey, let's write an

748
00:43:13,590 --> 00:43:17,250
email to Robert W. Wilson. The
idea is that when you take the

749
00:43:17,250 --> 00:43:20,430
giving pledge, you agreed to
give the majority of your wealth

750
00:43:20,430 --> 00:43:23,850
to charity during your lifetime
or through your will. The Giving

751
00:43:23,850 --> 00:43:25,860
Pledge will be public and
pledges will be posted on the

752
00:43:25,860 --> 00:43:29,700
website giving pledge.org And he
goes on and on and on. And then

753
00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:36,720
he says so I'm going to skip
through a lot of this email. See

754
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:38,820
today, an article about the
giving pledge was posted

755
00:43:38,820 --> 00:43:43,110
online@fortune.com Warren and
Melinda and I will be on Charlie

756
00:43:43,110 --> 00:43:46,470
Rose's show tonight to further
discuss the idea boy that

757
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:52,290
Melinda hit the jackpot didn't
shake. Oh, boy. Nice. Second,

758
00:43:52,290 --> 00:43:54,930
and that is in the next few
days. We are asking some of the

759
00:43:54,930 --> 00:43:57,840
great philanthropists in the
United States to join us signing

760
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,450
a letter to hundreds of wealthy
people in the United States,

761
00:44:00,570 --> 00:44:04,200
inviting them to pledge. So he's
basically pitching and then

762
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,950
Wilson response Mr. Gates, I
decided more than 10 years ago

763
00:44:07,950 --> 00:44:11,010
to try to give away 70% of my
net worth and have already given

764
00:44:11,010 --> 00:44:15,120
away one half billion dollars. I
have never been a Forbes 400 So

765
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,900
I really don't have to take that
pledge. Your Giving Pledge has a

766
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:22,500
loophole that renders it
practically worthless, namely

767
00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:26,340
permitting pledges to simply
name charities in their wills. I

768
00:44:26,340 --> 00:44:28,230
have found that most
billionaires or near

769
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:31,830
billionaires hate giving large
sums of money away while alive

770
00:44:32,010 --> 00:44:34,770
and instead set up family
controlled foundations to do it

771
00:44:34,770 --> 00:44:38,280
for them after death. And these
foundations more often than not,

772
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,910
bureaucracy are often
bureaucracy written sluggards.

773
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:44,940
These rich are delighted to toss
off a few million a year in

774
00:44:44,940 --> 00:44:48,090
order to remain socially
acceptable, but that's it. I'm

775
00:44:48,090 --> 00:44:50,790
going to stay far away from your
effort, but thanks for thinking

776
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:56,610
of me cordially. And gatesman
responds, what you're doing is

777
00:44:56,610 --> 00:45:02,190
fantastic. You're giving yes
Bill Gates is so nuts. This is

778
00:45:02,190 --> 00:45:06,480
how he responds to that email.
Sounds like a boilerplate, what

779
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,030
you're doing is fantastic.
You're giving a high percentage

780
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:12,480
and doing it in a very efficient
way to causes you have thought

781
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,720
about thought deeply about, the
key benefit of your getting

782
00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:18,060
involved in the pledge would
have would be having people

783
00:45:18,060 --> 00:45:21,180
learn more from your example,
both in your pledge letter and

784
00:45:21,180 --> 00:45:24,510
your participation in the yearly
events. We believe the more

785
00:45:24,510 --> 00:45:27,060
people we get involved, the
stronger the effort will be. And

786
00:45:27,060 --> 00:45:30,000
the more people who will join
in, you are right that the

787
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,520
giving pledge allows people to
join in who don't give until

788
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,580
their will comes into action.
Since people don't know when

789
00:45:35,580 --> 00:45:38,370
they will die. It is a bit
difficult to make the timing of

790
00:45:38,370 --> 00:45:42,390
their giving supers super
specific. You're also right that

791
00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:45,180
some people set up foundations
with a strong focus or without

792
00:45:45,210 --> 00:45:47,460
without a strong focus or
leadership. And with high

793
00:45:47,460 --> 00:45:51,810
overhead. Yeah, no kidding. And
blah, blah or not. So it's fine

794
00:45:51,810 --> 00:45:54,270
for you to stay out. But I want
you to know that we agree with

795
00:45:54,270 --> 00:45:56,970
your views on philanthropy. And
we would benefit from your

796
00:45:56,970 --> 00:45:59,430
joining in if you're willing to
talk further about this. I would

797
00:45:59,430 --> 00:46:04,020
love to chat on the phone
sometime. And then Wilson comes

798
00:46:04,020 --> 00:46:07,830
back. Mr. Gates, thanks so much
for your email. But as my

799
00:46:07,830 --> 00:46:11,670
previous email indicated, I
wouldn't have much fun or add

800
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:15,030
much value to this group. You
being a liberal think you can

801
00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:18,000
change people more than I think
I can. But let me make one

802
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,580
comment. When I talk to young
people who seem destined for

803
00:46:20,580 --> 00:46:23,280
great success. I tell them to
forget about charities and

804
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,310
giving concentrate on your
family and getting rich, which I

805
00:46:26,310 --> 00:46:29,610
found to be very hard work. I
personally and the world at

806
00:46:29,610 --> 00:46:32,340
large are very glad you are more
interested in computer soft

807
00:46:32,340 --> 00:46:36,120
software. I'm sorry, I
personally and the world at

808
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,420
large are very glad you were
more interested in computer

809
00:46:39,420 --> 00:46:41,520
software than the
underprivileged when you were

810
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,400
young. And don't forget that
those who don't make money never

811
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,460
become philanthropist. When rich
people reach 50 and are

812
00:46:47,460 --> 00:46:50,100
beginning to slow down. This is
the time to begin engaging them

813
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:52,860
in philanthropy. I greatly
appreciate just leaving it at

814
00:46:52,860 --> 00:47:00,600
that cordially. Basically, screw
you and Melinda and Warren.

815
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,500
Well, I would Yeah, well,
they're pretty arrogant about

816
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:08,610
this whole thing in fact, which
brings me to one of my points

817
00:47:09,630 --> 00:47:14,400
over the years especially with
Bill and Warren and they're

818
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,060
always the rich should be taxed
more didn't they're never seen

819
00:47:18,060 --> 00:47:20,880
that and say income taxes should
go up for the rich including

820
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,060
themselves. And then Bill is one
of those guys who used to pay

821
00:47:24,060 --> 00:47:31,140
himself like $1 Yeah, am I
getting a co pays $1 And so the

822
00:47:31,140 --> 00:47:36,810
wealth tax would shut these guys
up. Yeah. I gotta get back on

823
00:47:36,810 --> 00:47:40,560
that. That ain't gonna happen.
I'm gonna hit you with good

824
00:47:41,460 --> 00:47:43,470
well, yes, otherwise you end up
with a

825
00:47:43,470 --> 00:47:46,410
situation like the one here I
have a clip of which is taxes in

826
00:47:46,410 --> 00:47:49,560
France. Listen to these numbers.
Yeah, this this this got past

827
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,220
situation in

828
00:47:50,220 --> 00:47:53,430
France because the French are
facing new tax hikes.

829
00:47:53,460 --> 00:47:55,830
Yeah, exactly. Everyone's trying
to calculate now how much more

830
00:47:55,830 --> 00:47:59,010
they're going to be paying. tax
hikes came into place from

831
00:47:59,010 --> 00:48:02,070
January 1. The biggest among
these are changes in the rate of

832
00:48:02,070 --> 00:48:06,870
value added tax or VAT the tax
on most goods and services. And

833
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:09,600
at the change that affects every
consumer no matter how much or

834
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,350
how little they earn. Some
businesses are trying to absorb

835
00:48:13,350 --> 00:48:15,630
the cost of the tax increases
not pass it on to their

836
00:48:15,630 --> 00:48:18,810
consumers. But as Kate moody has
been finding out, it's not an

837
00:48:18,810 --> 00:48:19,590
easy task,

838
00:48:20,460 --> 00:48:24,630
champagne and a meal out small
luxuries being affected by the

839
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:27,990
new year's tax hike. This
restaurant owner has vowed to

840
00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:32,040
protect his customers and won't
raise his prices. He'll find

841
00:48:32,070 --> 00:48:33,810
other ways to save.

842
00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:38,670
For the 29 year a menu will take
up poached eggs with morel

843
00:48:38,670 --> 00:48:41,490
mushrooms. Because morels are
such a rare product

844
00:48:42,690 --> 00:48:47,070
rare and too expensive to offer.
Now that the intermediate VAT

845
00:48:47,070 --> 00:48:49,920
rate which applies to
restaurants, hotels and train

846
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:55,230
tickets, is boosted from seven
to 10%. Services like Plumbing

847
00:48:55,230 --> 00:48:58,740
also fall under the same
bracket. For this plumber the

848
00:48:58,740 --> 00:49:03,030
new rate amounts to about six
euros per house call. He too has

849
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:05,850
promised to absorb the extra
cost concerned about

850
00:49:05,850 --> 00:49:09,300
discouraging new customers. What
concepts will

851
00:49:09,300 --> 00:49:11,880
take it from our profit margin
good and so maybe we'll learn a

852
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,730
bit less and but at least we
won't lose clients on that

853
00:49:14,730 --> 00:49:14,940
buckle

854
00:49:14,940 --> 00:49:18,510
due to Francis Standard VAT rate
which applies to goods like

855
00:49:18,510 --> 00:49:23,940
clothing rises from 19.6 to 20%.
While the basic rate on food

856
00:49:23,940 --> 00:49:29,070
remains unchanged at 5.5% but
some consumers worried the extra

857
00:49:29,070 --> 00:49:30,570
pennies will add up.

858
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,370
This is VAT

859
00:49:32,730 --> 00:49:36,210
yeah VAT 20% It's 21%

860
00:49:36,210 --> 00:49:41,550
in most of Euro land 21% on
anything it's 20

861
00:49:42,510 --> 00:49:44,670
You know what's interesting
about this report that was kind

862
00:49:44,670 --> 00:49:47,310
of overlooked in terms of
understanding it because there

863
00:49:47,310 --> 00:49:51,060
was a number of things is all
from Van cat. They talked about

864
00:49:51,060 --> 00:49:54,090
Lithuania is now in the euro
zone and they're going to have a

865
00:49:54,090 --> 00:49:57,150
little bit of inflation but the
but every time you hear a report

866
00:49:57,150 --> 00:50:00,840
about this and you hear it here
all the time too. they're going

867
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,780
to end up just a meme. They're
going to pass it along to their

868
00:50:03,780 --> 00:50:09,030
customers. Yeah, they do. In
France, they're going to absorb

869
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:11,580
it. That was the kind of the
theme of this because the French

870
00:50:11,580 --> 00:50:16,170
have a socialistic mentality.
And so they all suck it up. Does

871
00:50:16,170 --> 00:50:18,870
that a yoga? Yeah, to gouge I
mean, we're gougers.

872
00:50:18,899 --> 00:50:21,569
I live, I lived in the
Netherlands From a very young

873
00:50:21,569 --> 00:50:25,739
age and I and when we moved
there in 1972, I believe the

874
00:50:25,739 --> 00:50:31,469
highest bracket income tax was
about 72 or 73%. And this came

875
00:50:31,469 --> 00:50:34,349
down dramatically later on, but
this is where it was when we

876
00:50:34,349 --> 00:50:37,559
started. And of course, you had
so called free everything, it

877
00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:41,309
was all great. And you know what
it just capitalism has his has

878
00:50:41,309 --> 00:50:43,889
his problems, this socialism has
its problems. So it does not

879
00:50:43,889 --> 00:50:47,609
work. Because people take
advantage of getting a free

880
00:50:47,609 --> 00:50:50,219
ride. I don't feel so good. Oh,
I'm gonna go Oh, my, you know,

881
00:50:50,219 --> 00:50:52,799
my back hurts. I'm gonna stay
home this week. Because you'll

882
00:50:52,799 --> 00:50:55,709
get it you know, you get paid
for it anyway. And if you're, if

883
00:50:55,709 --> 00:50:58,589
you're if your long term
disability, you get at least 80%

884
00:50:58,589 --> 00:51:00,899
of your last paycheck, all this
stuff? Well, it's just like the

885
00:51:00,899 --> 00:51:03,329
insurance companies, when you
have an insurance company people

886
00:51:03,389 --> 00:51:07,469
do and the end, the culture of
the Dutch was growing up, I will

887
00:51:07,469 --> 00:51:15,449
never forget. People would take
out a trip insurance for

888
00:51:15,449 --> 00:51:20,279
vacation. And they would lose
their phone or their or not

889
00:51:20,279 --> 00:51:23,189
phone because they didn't have
their camera typically. Oh, my

890
00:51:23,189 --> 00:51:26,609
camera was lost or broken. Yeah,
I'm just gonna report it to

891
00:51:26,609 --> 00:51:30,179
insurance so I can get a new
one. It's my right. Eye. People

892
00:51:30,179 --> 00:51:34,289
will take up our desktop. It's
my right, because some for some

893
00:51:34,289 --> 00:51:37,769
reason you it's you've paid
enough that people start to feel

894
00:51:37,769 --> 00:51:40,649
what they feel what they feel is
enough. Oh, I've paid enough now

895
00:51:40,649 --> 00:51:44,879
it's my right to to collect. And
I've seen this happen. And with

896
00:51:44,879 --> 00:51:51,269
the with the value added tax,
massive, massive fraud in this.

897
00:51:51,629 --> 00:51:54,809
I worked at a restaurant busing
tables. And the guy was like,

898
00:51:54,809 --> 00:51:59,549
Yeah, you know, give me some of
those VAT receipt to empty VAT

899
00:51:59,549 --> 00:52:03,299
receipts, I'll give you 100
guilders at the time. You give

900
00:52:03,299 --> 00:52:06,119
me a booklet of those which is
massive fraud everywhere. It

901
00:52:06,119 --> 00:52:09,869
only invites fraud. And it's
very easy and it's easiest for

902
00:52:09,869 --> 00:52:14,009
the people at the top to
defraud. No, no forget about it.

903
00:52:14,009 --> 00:52:17,969
We have diverged to such a
degree where the the rich are

904
00:52:17,969 --> 00:52:24,089
truly disgustingly wealthy. And
I have no disgust for money. And

905
00:52:24,179 --> 00:52:29,039
the poor are just disgustingly
poor. And our schmucks in the

906
00:52:29,039 --> 00:52:33,359
middle, were the ones getting
raped overall, this is a great

907
00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:38,759
article in Business Insider.
They went to see the Wolf of

908
00:52:38,759 --> 00:52:43,529
Wall Street. And the theatre
they went to is one right behind

909
00:52:43,529 --> 00:52:46,859
Goldman Sachs is office right
their financial district.

910
00:52:47,339 --> 00:52:49,199
And will field work it's called

911
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:55,140
field work. Yes. And during this
entire movie, which apparently

912
00:52:55,140 --> 00:53:03,930
is a long one, like three hours,
whenever DiCaprio who plays the

913
00:53:04,290 --> 00:53:07,320
rich tree. Yeah, Belfort is a
it's based on a true story.

914
00:53:07,590 --> 00:53:12,330
Whenever he was like taking coke
to sober up from the ludes you

915
00:53:12,330 --> 00:53:16,680
know, it was everyone. I mean,
if I remember being watching

916
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:21,150
Beverly Hills Cop on it's in a
Time Square movie theatre, and

917
00:53:21,150 --> 00:53:24,840
everyone was cheering on Eddie
Murphy. It was a very very black

918
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,260
crowd. Isn't Beverly Hills Cop?
No was some it was I think it

919
00:53:28,260 --> 00:53:30,930
was maybe was it purple rain. It
was some? I don't remember what

920
00:53:30,930 --> 00:53:34,350
it was. Maybe it was just early
Eddie Murphy's raw or something?

921
00:53:34,410 --> 00:53:39,150
God what was it? Regardless, you
get the audience of you know,

922
00:53:39,150 --> 00:53:43,170
just people cheering and like,
oh, yeah, go mad. Yeah, shoot

923
00:53:43,170 --> 00:53:47,790
him kill him. This is what these
guys are doing. When he's

924
00:53:47,820 --> 00:53:53,640
stealing money, and nothing off
his clients. He's wearing a wire

925
00:53:53,730 --> 00:53:57,930
and he's any any slides a piece
of paper two is his number two

926
00:53:57,930 --> 00:54:00,000
in command that says don't
incriminate yourself and wearing

927
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,510
a wire and the crowd is yelling.
That's right. Stand by your firm

928
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:04,920
don't read it. You know, it's
like

929
00:54:07,590 --> 00:54:10,170
what kind of an audience was
this? And they're so vocal.

930
00:54:10,350 --> 00:54:15,180
This was just Wall Street guys,
Wall Street guys. The financial

931
00:54:15,180 --> 00:54:18,120
district this is this what it is
they don't care. They are

932
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:24,300
ripping everybody off and
enriching themselves. And it's

933
00:54:24,570 --> 00:54:27,780
it's fine. It's disgusting. But
the guillotine could come back

934
00:54:27,780 --> 00:54:30,930
people just want to remind you
to there's no way

935
00:54:30,930 --> 00:54:32,970
there's no head on a stick
because I wouldn't surprise me.

936
00:54:32,970 --> 00:54:40,230
Yeah, so VAT Sure. It's just to
rip us off more. This is I don't

937
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:42,150
know. Maybe Hillary can fix it.

938
00:54:44,190 --> 00:54:46,770
You know, I don't think that
she's on the public side on any

939
00:54:46,770 --> 00:54:50,280
of this stuff. Oh, get that
sense. I don't know. Maybe I'm

940
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:56,010
wrong. So I've ended up watching
the entire house of cards. I

941
00:54:56,010 --> 00:54:59,100
didn't realise you know, I had
oh god give away the whole story

942
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:03,390
but it mean. Now I'm even more
disgusted that Obama was like

943
00:55:03,420 --> 00:55:13,860
admiring this this guy on the
show. Guys a murderer. Yes. The

944
00:55:13,860 --> 00:55:19,530
show is every buddy is
despicable everybody, the little

945
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:28,860
reporter she's girlfriends of
jerk. Everybody is a horrible

946
00:55:28,860 --> 00:55:31,620
person in this thing. It's very
good story because just like

947
00:55:31,620 --> 00:55:36,270
you're just jaw dropped over why
what? I know, I know. It's

948
00:55:36,270 --> 00:55:40,320
pretty good. Just a cold
blooded, horrible person. The

949
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,260
only person that's kind of
interesting that might not be a

950
00:55:43,260 --> 00:55:47,460
horrible person is the woman who
quit that the nonprofit they

951
00:55:47,460 --> 00:55:50,850
were running and to get because
she's having a baby. But even

952
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,700
then she was out or out to get
the other one. So I mean, it was

953
00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:57,900
it's a, it's a people would have
to have all the things you want

954
00:55:57,900 --> 00:56:00,000
to see on Netflix, go watch
House of Cards. And then the

955
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,120
other thing is I wouldn't
rewatching Rubicon still a good

956
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,300
story on Amazon. It's free to
Amazon Prime users. And it's an

957
00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:08,700
HD. Very good story, too.

958
00:56:08,850 --> 00:56:12,300
I got a lot of research that I
want to discuss with you. And I

959
00:56:12,300 --> 00:56:15,750
want to get to that. But first i
i Even at the the first show of

960
00:56:15,750 --> 00:56:18,270
the new year. I have to thank
you for your courage and say in

961
00:56:18,270 --> 00:56:20,460
the morning to you John C.
Dvorak.

962
00:56:21,299 --> 00:56:22,409
What was that again, Adam

963
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,290
in the morning to you John C.
Dvorak. Well, in

964
00:56:25,290 --> 00:56:28,890
the morning to you, Adam C.
Curry. And in the morning all

965
00:56:28,890 --> 00:56:31,380
ships and sea boots on the
ground, feet in the air subs in

966
00:56:31,380 --> 00:56:34,980
the water, and all the Dames and
all the nights out there.

967
00:56:35,009 --> 00:56:38,279
Yes. And, of course in the
morning to everyone in the chat

968
00:56:38,279 --> 00:56:41,699
room. Now back in good graces.
As we start off the year with

969
00:56:41,699 --> 00:56:45,119
John happy about the chat room,
no agenda stream.com. Yeah, that

970
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:47,549
probably won't last. But it's
always nice to start off on a

971
00:56:47,549 --> 00:56:51,359
positive note. And thank you to
our artists silikon spin brought

972
00:56:51,359 --> 00:56:55,439
us the art for 578 The last
piece of artwork for last year.

973
00:56:55,979 --> 00:56:59,729
And we appreciate all the work
that our artists do, it seems

974
00:56:59,729 --> 00:57:03,359
like some people have already
put in for future episodes. I'm

975
00:57:03,359 --> 00:57:08,759
not quite sure how that works.
Anyway, very end, it was just a

976
00:57:08,759 --> 00:57:11,009
nice end of your piece. And
we're very curious to see what

977
00:57:11,009 --> 00:57:14,729
happens in this new year. And
all of our artists are always

978
00:57:14,729 --> 00:57:18,899
credited. And it's always highly
highly appreciated. Thank you no

979
00:57:18,899 --> 00:57:22,859
agenda, art generator.com. And
then of course we have our

980
00:57:22,859 --> 00:57:26,969
model. I think we long ago
discovered that you can't

981
00:57:26,969 --> 00:57:31,889
monetize the network. There's no
nest necessity for aggregation

982
00:57:31,919 --> 00:57:34,769
you can go direct and build your
audience. We've been working on

983
00:57:34,769 --> 00:57:39,149
this for six years. And we
continue to build and and grow

984
00:57:39,179 --> 00:57:40,529
very slowly.

985
00:57:41,130 --> 00:57:42,450
Yes, slow but sure though,

986
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,830
it is sure I got a an invitation
from a magazine in the

987
00:57:46,830 --> 00:57:52,410
Netherlands. The the editor the
chief editor in chief is called

988
00:57:52,410 --> 00:57:55,830
The New Order food which is crap
magazine. They've always been

989
00:57:55,830 --> 00:58:03,180
mean to me to me not you always
mean with articles like who does

990
00:58:03,180 --> 00:58:05,580
Adam curry think he is and then
the interview a whole bunch of

991
00:58:05,580 --> 00:58:08,010
piano be good. Yeah, it's not
very doesn't never turns out

992
00:58:08,010 --> 00:58:13,920
nice. No, no. And so whenever
you know some listener alerted

993
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:18,300
us to your stance on sandy hook
in the Boston bombing. Yeah,

994
00:58:18,330 --> 00:58:21,030
maybe we should did talk about
that. I'm like, yeah. Oh, well,

995
00:58:21,030 --> 00:58:23,970
let me think you're going to
make me into an idiot hoaxer.

996
00:58:23,970 --> 00:58:25,380
That's probably what you want to
do.

997
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,550
Three nut? Exactly. Exactly.

998
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,550
No, no, no, no, we think that
you have I heard seven or eight

999
00:58:32,550 --> 00:58:36,360
minutes of you talking during
Christmas break about? Because I

1000
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,430
said I accused him of never
having listen. Otherwise, you

1001
00:58:38,430 --> 00:58:41,220
never would have asked me this
says no, no, I heard seven or

1002
00:58:41,220 --> 00:58:44,430
eight minutes on the Sandy Hook.
And, you know, the evidence and

1003
00:58:44,430 --> 00:58:49,830
what I said we've done hours of
this over months, I can you case

1004
00:58:49,830 --> 00:58:54,600
you can't put this into a one
page article. It's impossible.

1005
00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:57,900
It will not work. And all that
happens is is you know, I get

1006
00:58:57,900 --> 00:59:01,050
nothing out of it. No, but don't
you want to promote some of your

1007
00:59:01,050 --> 00:59:04,770
ideas? No, no, I don't own
ideas.

1008
00:59:05,340 --> 00:59:09,240
What we're here to promote
people to the ability to think

1009
00:59:09,930 --> 00:59:13,860
through people's lives. Thank
you, you that sort of thing and

1010
00:59:13,860 --> 00:59:16,020
keep if we're going to promote
anything, we do promote the

1011
00:59:16,020 --> 00:59:17,250
show, but that but

1012
00:59:17,250 --> 00:59:20,130
you're never gonna get promotion
for the idea that maybe one

1013
00:59:20,130 --> 00:59:23,700
person who go like I am we take
a look at that. And all of us

1014
00:59:23,700 --> 00:59:29,580
are like, Ah, I knew it. tinfoil
hat crazy nut job that

1015
00:59:29,850 --> 00:59:31,650
wears the tinfoil hat. Yeah,

1016
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:32,430
exactly.

1017
00:59:32,730 --> 00:59:35,790
That's exactly right. We know
this.

1018
00:59:35,850 --> 00:59:41,760
So it's I might Wow. And, and to
myself, I also had to reset

1019
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,360
like, Okay, this is you know, I
could see all the danger like

1020
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,360
warning world danger Will
Robinson back away from the

1021
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,620
mainstream press. Because it was
the last time we did something.

1022
00:59:52,650 --> 00:59:56,100
We were in Los Angeles. And it
was a real publication. Maybe it

1023
00:59:56,100 --> 00:59:58,950
was New York Times or Wall
Street Journal, and they would

1024
00:59:58,950 --> 01:00:05,160
not accept my Title of media
assassin think, well, we can't

1025
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,980
print that. So but that's what I
am. No, that's not a real title.

1026
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,770
Do you remember that? What mag
what newspaper? Was that? Or

1027
01:00:10,770 --> 01:00:12,720
maybe it was USA Today or?

1028
01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:16,050
I don't remember this. Yeah, I
remember you get into a beef

1029
01:00:16,050 --> 01:00:19,800
about something. No. And we know
they're not our friends. So

1030
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,870
they just want to make fun of
us.

1031
01:00:23,310 --> 01:00:24,420
Well, it's because they

1032
01:00:25,020 --> 01:00:29,010
know but here's a guy who's
being paid them. So is no but

1033
01:00:29,010 --> 01:00:32,640
no, but I guess the point is,
the way it works over there in

1034
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,940
that land in that in in
mainstream land, is you know,

1035
01:00:35,970 --> 01:00:39,600
you're in a big company, a big
publishing house to do multiple

1036
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,960
magazines, we got to do
something, we'll make fun of

1037
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,440
somebody or maybe not even and
then the other magazines can

1038
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,990
jump on it, extract stuff and
call the guy nuts. And then

1039
01:00:48,990 --> 01:00:51,390
we've got a little thing going
on, more people will buy our

1040
01:00:51,390 --> 01:00:55,110
magazine, just some controversy,
just whatever we can get. And we

1041
01:00:55,110 --> 01:00:59,190
opted out of that years ago. And
the only way we've done it is by

1042
01:00:59,190 --> 01:01:04,440
the model that we've created,
which is in no way an Indiegogo

1043
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,530
or a Kickstarter, this is
something very, very specific,

1044
01:01:07,530 --> 01:01:10,320
which may only work with an
audio podcast, by the way, I

1045
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:15,330
don't even know if it will work
with many other forms of media.

1046
01:01:16,500 --> 01:01:21,120
And when we're not working for
tips, and don't know, tip Joe

1047
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:21,720
used to work

1048
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:27,090
for PBS. Yeah, in the early
days, there was pretty much just

1049
01:01:27,090 --> 01:01:30,180
when you get them this. And it
was different when I was a kid

1050
01:01:30,180 --> 01:01:34,170
that public broadcasting thing
was it was a more honest

1051
01:01:34,170 --> 01:01:37,530
operation. They were a little
low. And they were not quite the

1052
01:01:37,530 --> 01:01:40,800
same standards in terms of
broadcast quality really lame,

1053
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,580
basically, it was it was there
was good material on there. But

1054
01:01:44,580 --> 01:01:47,910
it wasn't. It wasn't. It was
like Russian TV,

1055
01:01:47,940 --> 01:01:51,240
we should we should trace back
to see when that change and what

1056
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,050
the change was because it's not
low grey anymore. Underlying

1057
01:01:55,110 --> 01:01:58,140
writing came in Yeah. Oh, you
mean? Let me see. Where do we

1058
01:01:58,140 --> 01:01:58,830
have? Yes.

1059
01:02:00,390 --> 01:02:04,110
Oh, here it is. Okay, moving on
to money. How are NPR is

1060
01:02:04,110 --> 01:02:07,380
corporate underwriting revenues
holding up in the recession? And

1061
01:02:07,380 --> 01:02:09,090
what about foundation grants?

1062
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:16,290
Two different stories.
Underlying is underwriting is is

1063
01:02:16,290 --> 01:02:19,980
down, it's down for everybody. I
mean, this is this is the this

1064
01:02:19,980 --> 01:02:22,860
is the area that is most down
for us. This is in is in

1065
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,100
sponsorship, underwriting,
advertising, call it whatever

1066
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:27,210
you want to

1067
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,320
call it whatever you want, or
whatever you want to

1068
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:35,730
advertising. And we're obviously
advertising in today's era when

1069
01:02:35,730 --> 01:02:39,630
the guys are done because these
advertiser demand, I demand 60

1070
01:02:39,630 --> 01:02:42,270
seconds of promotion for
Chevron. And

1071
01:02:42,359 --> 01:02:47,399
then how can how can PBS sit
there with a straight face and

1072
01:02:47,399 --> 01:02:52,049
say here is the Kaiser medical
report and independent

1073
01:02:53,279 --> 01:03:00,149
organisation funded by Kaiser
how can they say that with a

1074
01:03:00,149 --> 01:03:01,109
straight face?

1075
01:03:02,490 --> 01:03:06,480
I think they're I honestly think
they're deluded. I don't think

1076
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:07,710
they're being insincere.

1077
01:03:08,250 --> 01:03:12,600
That's the scary part. Here is
the Kaiser not not just a the

1078
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:18,180
PBS medical report, underwritten
by Kaiser know the Kaiser from

1079
01:03:18,180 --> 01:03:22,740
Kaiser Permanente from the from
Kaiser the Kaiser Family of

1080
01:03:22,740 --> 01:03:23,250
course like

1081
01:03:23,250 --> 01:03:27,420
watching ABC where it says you
know, it says scoreboard Vizio

1082
01:03:27,420 --> 01:03:34,710
scoreboard Volvo scoreboard Ford
rocking by Ford Yeah. This Ford

1083
01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:35,250
minute

1084
01:03:37,050 --> 01:03:43,530
Yeah, owe the Ford minute. It
really we tried to watch a

1085
01:03:43,530 --> 01:03:49,440
little bit of the shows from
Time Square and I did Time

1086
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:56,460
Square in 1987. And at that
time, I had a bodyguard an armed

1087
01:03:56,550 --> 01:04:02,040
undercover off duty cop standing
next to me because there was no

1088
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,470
guard rails or anything there
was there wasn't even a camera

1089
01:04:04,470 --> 01:04:08,850
the camera was on one time
square up on the third 50th

1090
01:04:08,850 --> 01:04:12,330
floor looking down at me with a
huge zoom lens. And I was like

1091
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:16,950
good luck curry. Yeah, there was
no it was no crowd control.

1092
01:04:16,950 --> 01:04:23,220
There were no gates no podia and
no nivia nivia which is a cream

1093
01:04:23,220 --> 01:04:29,520
for your elbows is it's been the
spice made entire New Year's

1094
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:35,460
blue on Times Square. And it's
ruined it ruined everything. And

1095
01:04:35,460 --> 01:04:39,660
then it's ruined. And then you
switch back and forth. It's just

1096
01:04:39,660 --> 01:04:43,620
the whole thing is ruined. It's
continues to be a crazy a

1097
01:04:43,620 --> 01:04:48,090
million people running around
like that. And now it's all

1098
01:04:48,090 --> 01:04:54,840
controlled programmes scripted.
I like Jenny McCarthy but no, I

1099
01:04:54,840 --> 01:05:00,330
like Carson Daly you know? No.
is dumb. He talks about dumb

1100
01:05:00,330 --> 01:05:03,990
things you make me feel dumb and
we watch dumb commercials. It's

1101
01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:05,730
dumb. I swear I went to bed.

1102
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,940
Well, you know, you're better
off we didn't get to see any of

1103
01:05:08,940 --> 01:05:15,990
that because up at the, at the
North Western bunker bunker, we

1104
01:05:15,990 --> 01:05:19,500
don't have any broadcast TV,
Mimi moved all this stuff around

1105
01:05:19,500 --> 01:05:22,620
and she had it hooked the
antenna to the TV. And so we're

1106
01:05:22,620 --> 01:05:25,080
just everything's on Netflix
either watching or through the

1107
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,730
Roku box. Everything's roku.

1108
01:05:27,540 --> 01:05:30,720
I got a new Roku, one of those
Roku threes. Boy, what a nice,

1109
01:05:30,780 --> 01:05:34,710
it's a nice box. Wow, what an
upgrade. That is. No. And here's

1110
01:05:34,710 --> 01:05:35,790
the cool thing

1111
01:05:35,790 --> 01:05:38,280
about the Roku three I promised
in the newsletter, we talked a

1112
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:44,310
little tech. So this is it? Oh,
no. This is it. The Roku three,

1113
01:05:44,310 --> 01:05:47,040
the thing you got to know about
the Roku three is that it has a

1114
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,940
universal search function at the
very beginning. So you can

1115
01:05:50,940 --> 01:05:53,700
search for a movie and then it
will find where it's available

1116
01:05:53,700 --> 01:05:56,550
on all these other different
services with the prices

1117
01:05:56,550 --> 01:05:59,880
corresponding prices. If you
said wait a minute, why should I

1118
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:03,420
go here for $3 When I can see
the same movie for free on

1119
01:06:03,420 --> 01:06:04,050
Amazon.

1120
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,020
I know that it's a it's an it
really truly is an outstanding

1121
01:06:07,020 --> 01:06:09,480
product. I hope those guys make
money. I don't see how they

1122
01:06:09,540 --> 01:06:12,210
they're selling. And also just
the whole idea. It's a little

1123
01:06:12,210 --> 01:06:16,170
Linux thing they got in a little
enclosure. I mean, it's all it's

1124
01:06:16,170 --> 01:06:18,990
beautifully done. I really like
I don't like the fact that it's

1125
01:06:18,990 --> 01:06:22,350
broadcasting like a Wi Fi
network from my remote control.

1126
01:06:22,350 --> 01:06:25,830
That's new. I think that's dumb.
There's no reason for that to do

1127
01:06:25,830 --> 01:06:27,300
that that way. But I actually

1128
01:06:27,300 --> 01:06:31,380
had lunch with the CEO. Yeah.
And I use the nice guy. He's one

1129
01:06:31,380 --> 01:06:33,660
of these real nerdy characters a
nice guy, but

1130
01:06:33,660 --> 01:06:36,390
he's, he's an accountant. He's
not really a tech guy isn't some

1131
01:06:36,390 --> 01:06:37,560
or something. Kind of a

1132
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:41,640
tech guy because he's the guy
who started replay TV. And he

1133
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,820
was neck and neck with TiVo.
Those two guys there. He's

1134
01:06:44,850 --> 01:06:50,490
essentially the inventor of the
DVR, ah. He says get better

1135
01:06:50,490 --> 01:06:53,580
bandwidth over the internet.
Now. If it's it's handled

1136
01:06:53,580 --> 01:06:54,060
correctly.

1137
01:06:54,060 --> 01:06:58,200
Well, they have so I think they
have new they must have the h2

1138
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,800
Six for decoding down. They've
done it really well. On this no

1139
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:06,360
Roku, new Roku or just it. The
quality picks up very quickly.

1140
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,570
And it's just and here I can
even do Time Warner Cable on the

1141
01:07:09,570 --> 01:07:13,050
Roku, which has an I don't have
to deal with their whole stupid

1142
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:17,100
idiot box. Which pisses me off
to no end, rebooting a million

1143
01:07:17,100 --> 01:07:21,630
times L minus 10 l minus nine
whenever they update their

1144
01:07:21,930 --> 01:07:28,200
crappy ass interface. Alright,
so the long way to get to the

1145
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:33,780
fact that we have people who
produce the show, produce it in

1146
01:07:33,780 --> 01:07:37,920
with information with
propagation and with

1147
01:07:38,250 --> 01:07:39,570
financialization.

1148
01:07:40,110 --> 01:07:43,290
So we have a lot of
financialization, people.

1149
01:07:43,860 --> 01:07:46,110
Good. We need it to kick off the
year right

1150
01:07:46,140 --> 01:07:48,450
off the year. Right. We're
starting with David, we want to

1151
01:07:48,450 --> 01:07:52,470
thank them David Foley, who's
now the Archduke of Silicon

1152
01:07:52,470 --> 01:07:55,650
Valley. He's getting into Grand
Duke he's trying to catch up

1153
01:07:55,650 --> 01:08:00,780
with bells mockers his work it
gets into that group he'll have

1154
01:08:00,780 --> 01:08:04,950
the the eastern hemisphere and
fully have the western

1155
01:08:05,370 --> 01:08:07,470
end, but he also gets a jingle
then at that point.

1156
01:08:08,279 --> 01:08:12,029
Yes, he will get a jingle like
Grand Duke in the morning, John

1157
01:08:12,029 --> 01:08:18,659
and Adam a close 2398 dot 63
Wow. And this is the 4k TV guy.

1158
01:08:18,659 --> 01:08:22,109
What's his website again?
4k special.com.

1159
01:08:22,110 --> 01:08:23,430
I think that's good.

1160
01:08:23,670 --> 01:08:26,850
You can look it up. Well, I'll
check. I think it is nice.

1161
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,840
Something else. I thought
whatever the case, he didn't

1162
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,990
promote it this time. But I like
to promote it just to annoy that

1163
01:08:33,990 --> 01:08:38,430
one or one listener. It is
4k special.com

1164
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:42,120
and if you use the code, no
agenda then you get $50 off.

1165
01:08:42,420 --> 01:08:45,720
Okay. Enclosed Please find my
January donation at the best

1166
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,910
podcast in the universe.
Hopefully this will kick off a

1167
01:08:47,910 --> 01:08:51,660
great 2014 for the show. Thanks
for all the great analysis this

1168
01:08:51,690 --> 01:08:54,750
donation should elevate me to
the Archduke of Silicon Valley.

1169
01:08:55,020 --> 01:08:57,870
Please send me some of that
wonderful no agenda karma for

1170
01:08:57,870 --> 01:08:58,710
the upcoming month.

1171
01:08:58,740 --> 01:09:01,140
You got it. Here you go.
Archduke thank you so much.

1172
01:09:01,140 --> 01:09:04,290
You've got karma that is really
really appreciate.

1173
01:09:05,790 --> 01:09:15,480
Yes, indeed. Now we have is Hey,
idiot. McDonald, Concord,

1174
01:09:15,480 --> 01:09:18,510
California just right up the
street for me where the fries is

1175
01:09:18,930 --> 01:09:20,820
$579.11

1176
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,990
this is this is the one person
who heard the donation number

1177
01:09:24,990 --> 01:09:31,650
the 579 11 Yeah, Episode 579 and
11. Yeah, nice. It's him. It's

1178
01:09:31,650 --> 01:09:33,810
the only one in the club. He's
eating the clone. No. Hey,

1179
01:09:33,810 --> 01:09:35,940
idiot. Hey, idiot

1180
01:09:36,030 --> 01:09:39,960
from Atlas McDonald. Longtime
Boehner first time donor. That's

1181
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,050
the way to get started, but at
least I've been linking Hey

1182
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:44,880
idiot.com to the show.

1183
01:09:44,910 --> 01:09:49,560
I didn't know. Let me check that
that's good. I didn't realise

1184
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:49,800
that.

1185
01:09:49,830 --> 01:09:52,620
That counted his show and
serving up the BitTorrent Sync

1186
01:09:52,620 --> 01:09:56,310
feet at 100 megabits per second
since it started so he's one of

1187
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:58,650
doing a lot of work for

1188
01:09:58,650 --> 01:10:02,850
us. He's a cedar where some I'm
show sell seeds we have cedars

1189
01:10:03,420 --> 01:10:06,330
whoo Yeah, that's great. give
myself

1190
01:10:07,919 --> 01:10:11,279
some space Yeah. Finally felt
shamed enough to donate out

1191
01:10:11,279 --> 01:10:14,549
after hitting just a few folks
in the mouth not a stellar year

1192
01:10:14,549 --> 01:10:17,819
for me but better than some it
appears. Would love to hear John

1193
01:10:17,819 --> 01:10:22,709
you will obey and thanks for
your courage you will obey you

1194
01:10:22,709 --> 01:10:25,109
will obey you will obey.

1195
01:10:27,180 --> 01:10:31,530
Nice well thank you very much
Hey, idiot from Atlas McDonald,

1196
01:10:31,530 --> 01:10:34,170
that's very kind of you. And you
will be not only an executive

1197
01:10:34,170 --> 01:10:38,550
producer of Episode 579, or you
also be the sole five, Seven

1198
01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:39,510
Niner club member.

1199
01:10:41,220 --> 01:10:46,620
Anonymous from anonymous
michigan 333 33. Mana Christmas,

1200
01:10:46,620 --> 01:10:50,040
please keep my name and location
anonymous. Thank you anonymous,

1201
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,160
not complaining just wondering
about the email server from home

1202
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,160
product or in a box or
instructions, some sort of thing

1203
01:10:56,370 --> 01:11:00,690
for the outliner ACX uses and he
wants information from you. Yes.

1204
01:11:00,780 --> 01:11:03,120
And easy instructions are
probably this will be the day by

1205
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:04,560
the way when he documents
something.

1206
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,640
Well, let me let me finish this.
And I'll say something any any

1207
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:09,150
written

1208
01:11:09,150 --> 01:11:12,660
blah, blah, blah, you guys and
everyone that assists are the

1209
01:11:12,660 --> 01:11:15,990
best much love, I also fast
forward through donations. So if

1210
01:11:15,990 --> 01:11:19,170
you happen to mention either
email server or Outliner, I'll

1211
01:11:19,170 --> 01:11:23,850
only catch it if it's outside
the donations. Say it, we say I

1212
01:11:23,850 --> 01:11:26,670
have a hard enough time keeping
up with the actual show.

1213
01:11:26,970 --> 01:11:30,330
This is part of the show, look
at what you've missed in us just

1214
01:11:30,330 --> 01:11:33,630
talking about just leading up to
donations this is so well, it's

1215
01:11:33,630 --> 01:11:35,490
up to you, you need to do
whatever you want and doesn't

1216
01:11:35,490 --> 01:11:39,330
matter because you get enough
value to provide us with value

1217
01:11:39,330 --> 01:11:44,730
for not even listening to that.
So appreciate it. Yeah, I have

1218
01:11:45,450 --> 01:11:47,850
decided, well, I got to think
about it. The problem with the

1219
01:11:47,850 --> 01:11:53,670
email server is you just have to
be willing to want to do it.

1220
01:11:53,970 --> 01:11:57,210
It's not all that hard, I can
point to a million documents,

1221
01:11:57,270 --> 01:12:01,140
there's no surefire way of doing
these things. Because every

1222
01:12:01,140 --> 01:12:05,640
situation is a little bit
different. It's like It's like

1223
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:10,140
cooking, I can give you a
recipe. But you still have to,

1224
01:12:10,170 --> 01:12:12,420
you know, your stove is
different, the ingredients are

1225
01:12:12,420 --> 01:12:15,960
gonna be different sizes, you'll
have different in factors,

1226
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,620
different environment, different
taste buds. And it takes a

1227
01:12:19,620 --> 01:12:23,370
couple of weeks to get it up and
running. And, you know, you just

1228
01:12:23,370 --> 01:12:27,720
have to, I don't care, I'm
sorry, it's the stay with Gmail.

1229
01:12:28,020 --> 01:12:31,080
And if you really, really care
if that if your reasons are pure

1230
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,420
for wanting to get off
centralised services, you can

1231
01:12:33,420 --> 01:12:34,020
figure it out.

1232
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,800
You can also go to little guys
and go through them. You know,

1233
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,060
of course you can work with with
people locally, but I like my

1234
01:12:42,060 --> 01:12:47,190
guy. But even that is, you know,
to a degree. Now, if you read

1235
01:12:47,190 --> 01:12:51,600
all the documentation about what
rights you have, when you park

1236
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:55,530
your stuff at a third party,
it's basically none. So it's

1237
01:12:55,530 --> 01:12:59,370
better to own it. And even if
you have infrastructure even if

1238
01:12:59,370 --> 01:13:04,230
you own even if you run a server
in the cloud, if you run an

1239
01:13:04,230 --> 01:13:10,020
Amazon EC two or something on
Rackspace, they cannot legally

1240
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,140
Of course, technically, but
legally, they can't do the same

1241
01:13:13,170 --> 01:13:14,970
way that they do with Gmail.
They can't just call up

1242
01:13:14,970 --> 01:13:18,000
Rackspace and say break into
that guy's box that is not

1243
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,030
allowed a big difference

1244
01:13:24,030 --> 01:13:27,870
the post office should open some
system and make a law that

1245
01:13:27,870 --> 01:13:31,080
protects it some way they would
like to do with the regular mail

1246
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,350
you know, just it's I think they
try it anyway. Let's get on with

1247
01:13:34,350 --> 01:13:38,040
it. Please me Well, of course he
didn't get any of this because

1248
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,400
he just fast forward he didn't
hear any of what I just said.

1249
01:13:41,670 --> 01:13:46,770
Yeah, it's so ironic. Edward
sheets from Parts Unknown $320 I

1250
01:13:46,770 --> 01:13:51,090
do not have a note but he does
he's got a note in the next week

1251
01:13:51,090 --> 01:13:57,030
give us $320 Twice yeah whoo
Yep, well that puts him up to

1252
01:13:57,030 --> 01:14:00,150
the 640 mark but he wants 320
Finally mac and cheese by the I

1253
01:14:00,150 --> 01:14:04,140
got a great mac and cheese.
Nevermind finally mac and cheese

1254
01:14:04,140 --> 01:14:07,320
my way to knighthood math below
been donating for several years

1255
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:11,310
and have not asked for any
karma, et cetera. So may I ask

1256
01:14:11,310 --> 01:14:14,640
for a D douching. Then
relationship karma. Also, is it

1257
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,270
possible to add Cuban cigars and
single malt scotches to the

1258
01:14:18,270 --> 01:14:19,260
Knights list?

1259
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:20,940
I'm doing it as we speak.

1260
01:14:21,060 --> 01:14:22,890
I thought it was already on
there something like that.

1261
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:27,960
No, we have long haired heavy
metal guys and scotch. That's

1262
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,410
like the cheap you know the
cheaper Johnny wouldn't name

1263
01:14:31,410 --> 01:14:32,610
John Cuban cigars should be

1264
01:14:32,610 --> 01:14:34,740
on news Ryan cigars and single
malt scotch and

1265
01:14:34,740 --> 01:14:39,060
he says in all caps you guys
rock. And then he says how do I

1266
01:14:39,060 --> 01:14:43,410
apply for the ring? You go to no
agenda nation.com/ring And

1267
01:14:43,410 --> 01:14:44,910
you'll find an ID douching

1268
01:14:44,910 --> 01:14:45,570
and a karma for you.

1269
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:49,320
You've been de Deus.

1270
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,360
Got karma. Thank you for that

1271
01:14:54,420 --> 01:15:04,320
double shot. Gi bozi gi Boise GI
Bill was II in the whole vote on

1272
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,500
those days in Illinois We're
home now he's in Israel. Oh,

1273
01:15:07,500 --> 01:15:09,750
he's in Israel. What does it say
Illinois.

1274
01:15:09,780 --> 01:15:14,130
You remember gi Boise is the guy
who was the Israeli guy he sent

1275
01:15:14,130 --> 01:15:14,910
the tampons

1276
01:15:16,139 --> 01:15:20,249
to 2222 I remember who was
important and will not find a

1277
01:15:20,279 --> 01:15:21,029
note from him.

1278
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,720
He's He's always the same He
loves us. He's really rockin and

1279
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,720
trying hard. Keep up the good
work. Sack of shoes.

1280
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:33,449
Saket shoes sir Scott Spencer
$21.40 from Dawsonville Georgia,

1281
01:15:33,779 --> 01:15:38,309
Black Knight Scott I haven't
donated in a while. Just thank

1282
01:15:38,309 --> 01:15:41,699
you for the best podcast in the
universe to a 140 for the good

1283
01:15:41,699 --> 01:15:47,129
start to 2014 this is to 2014 in
there Can I get a clippety clop

1284
01:15:47,129 --> 01:15:50,879
karma should be entered should
be very entertaining over the

1285
01:15:50,879 --> 01:15:53,369
next couple of years. Working
toward Baron.

1286
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,740
That's a very good point, sir
Scott and I think we should

1287
01:15:55,860 --> 01:16:02,370
definitely bring on the clippity
clop karma messages clear clip

1288
01:16:06,750 --> 01:16:11,250
you've got karma? I can't wait.
I'm so excited about Hillary

1289
01:16:11,250 --> 01:16:11,820
this year.

1290
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,940
Yeah, this year is gonna be a
good one. Yeah, she's all she

1291
01:16:14,940 --> 01:16:18,120
got her face fixed. You know,
she's probably you know, gonna

1292
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:23,280
lose a couple pounds maybe gonna
lose Bill lose bill and be like

1293
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,590
you Well, that's depends on our
bed. We still run it downward

1294
01:16:25,590 --> 01:16:28,740
bills gonna be eliminated, but
I'm guessing closer to the

1295
01:16:28,740 --> 01:16:32,850
election day or if she starts
losing the primaries, then

1296
01:16:32,850 --> 01:16:34,200
that's going to happen then. Oh,

1297
01:16:34,350 --> 01:16:37,530
she she does not want to do
poorly in New Hampshire. Bill.

1298
01:16:37,890 --> 01:16:39,270
You want to keep your eye on
that?

1299
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,840
Yeah, well, he'll be campaigning
for New Hampshire, so nothing

1300
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:49,530
bad will happen. Dan Kravitz,
tool 140 Again, same for

1301
01:16:49,530 --> 01:16:49,950
instance,

1302
01:16:49,980 --> 01:16:51,630
junction, you know, we could
have thought of this one. You

1303
01:16:51,630 --> 01:16:51,960
know,

1304
01:16:52,830 --> 01:16:58,260
I actually did think of it but I
decided to stick with to 2014

1305
01:16:58,410 --> 01:17:03,120
two Oh, dot one for for the
masses. Okay, nice. But I

1306
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,640
thought about this. And I also
thought about 2000 You know,

1307
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:09,570
somebody wants to give us $2,014
I mean, I'm not gonna I think

1308
01:17:09,570 --> 01:17:13,410
they can dream it up themselves.
Happy New Year to the best

1309
01:17:13,410 --> 01:17:16,020
podcast in the universe of the
Dames and night all the Daymond

1310
01:17:16,050 --> 01:17:18,450
nice producers, human resources
to a lesser extent all the

1311
01:17:18,450 --> 01:17:23,670
freeloading boners out there.
And he gave us $201.40 And he's

1312
01:17:23,670 --> 01:17:28,260
a history major at Bard College
in upstate New York. And your

1313
01:17:28,260 --> 01:17:30,900
show is a source of valuable
news and information as well as

1314
01:17:30,900 --> 01:17:34,290
entertainment is in my life,
being brainwashed hipster

1315
01:17:34,290 --> 01:17:37,680
amongst brainwashed hipsters.
I've been a listener for it. I

1316
01:17:37,950 --> 01:17:40,290
haven't put this whole note in.
So because it's pretty funny.

1317
01:17:40,410 --> 01:17:42,360
I've been a listener for a
little over six months now and

1318
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,840
I've totally totally hooked
which means that my life pre an

1319
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,350
A was a total waste. My parents
have actually been trying to hit

1320
01:17:49,350 --> 01:17:52,350
me in the mouth for a few years
but being a douchebag teenager,

1321
01:17:52,470 --> 01:17:55,560
I made it long and arduous
mission. Bless them for not

1322
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,470
giving up on me. For now I'm
fully indoctrinated and taking

1323
01:17:58,470 --> 01:18:01,650
it upon myself to convert the
few friends I have whose head

1324
01:18:01,650 --> 01:18:05,880
would not explode. Upon hearing
the truth. Your bi weekly shot

1325
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,850
of sanity gives me plenty of
material to throw at the moronic

1326
01:18:08,850 --> 01:18:12,870
Republican hating Obama bots
that mainly populate my school.

1327
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:18,930
Needless to say, I don't have
many friends. Good riddance. The

1328
01:18:18,930 --> 01:18:21,990
last few episodes have finally
really been top notch and I've

1329
01:18:21,990 --> 01:18:24,450
decided it was finally time to
rid myself of the dreaded

1330
01:18:24,450 --> 01:18:28,290
Boehner status. Luckily, it
being the holiday season, I took

1331
01:18:28,290 --> 01:18:31,170
advantage of my family in order
to avoid actually chipping in my

1332
01:18:31,170 --> 01:18:36,810
own money, of which I have
basically none. So here's $200

1333
01:18:36,810 --> 01:18:39,030
and $21.40. To kick off the new
years Keep up the good work and

1334
01:18:39,030 --> 01:18:41,790
humorous analysis and they'll be
more of that where they came by.

1335
01:18:41,790 --> 01:18:46,080
He's teasing me. I also like to
call my long distance girlfriend

1336
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:50,160
from St. Petersburg to the stage
Marina. Get your sweet Russian

1337
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:54,450
cheeks up there. She'll be
making a conjugal visit to get

1338
01:18:54,450 --> 01:18:57,090
mo nation in February and if
you're lucky, Adam, I might just

1339
01:18:57,090 --> 01:19:02,130
send you a picture. Can I get to
the head Don't eat me Hillary,

1340
01:19:02,130 --> 01:19:06,600
don't Raph and some karma for
the road. I'm looking to become

1341
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:10,440
a certified massage therapist
sewing squeeze some extra cash

1342
01:19:10,620 --> 01:19:13,170
out of the trust fund babies I
go to school with

1343
01:19:14,610 --> 01:19:18,330
good notes. A kid should become
a writer is good. That was a

1344
01:19:18,330 --> 01:19:25,350
good note. I like that that's
not the right one. We had that

1345
01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:28,620
problem before, haven't we?
Yeah. Well the second one is

1346
01:19:28,620 --> 01:19:34,020
that I gotta get rid of that
one. Here it is. I got it. Let

1347
01:19:34,020 --> 01:19:36,120
me just get rid of that one all
together because I don't like it

1348
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:44,280
at all. No, no, it's let's try
this again. Here we go. It's the

1349
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,730
same. Yeah, what is this? I
don't know. Where is the Don't

1350
01:19:47,730 --> 01:19:49,920
eat me Hillary Clinton's the
regular jingle.

1351
01:19:53,010 --> 01:19:55,560
This is a problem. This is
interesting.

1352
01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:59,580
How can that happen? You know,
what happens is we don't play

1353
01:19:59,580 --> 01:20:01,200
these genes. was for a long time

1354
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:05,460
and it get overwritten No,

1355
01:20:05,490 --> 01:20:09,330
no certainly not overwritten,
but it must be somewhere in a in

1356
01:20:09,330 --> 01:20:22,110
a folder on a second here it is.
Okay, one more time Hillary

1357
01:20:22,110 --> 01:20:28,200
Clinton don't put off Why are
you on? You've got karma All

1358
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,890
right. Now I know where it is.
I'm going to put it into the

1359
01:20:31,890 --> 01:20:33,330
main bucket. Yeah, you're

1360
01:20:33,330 --> 01:20:36,330
gonna get to be reprieved
because we got to Hillary's

1361
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:37,680
getting back into action here

1362
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,860
now we got I gotta roll it all
up into into into a handy little

1363
01:20:40,860 --> 01:20:42,090
interface that works.

1364
01:20:42,269 --> 01:20:45,629
Yeah, bring the show back up a
notch sorry I'm

1365
01:20:45,930 --> 01:20:49,590
I'm obviously obviously sucking

1366
01:20:50,010 --> 01:20:53,010
and by the way that was done
Kravitz and Princeton Junction

1367
01:20:53,040 --> 01:21:05,580
New Jersey State please be
upstanding nation so Steven pals

1368
01:21:05,580 --> 01:21:08,970
mockers showed up with the
joiner $1.40 cent donation from

1369
01:21:08,970 --> 01:21:12,510
Belgium Happy New Year to the
and he's of course the Duke he's

1370
01:21:12,510 --> 01:21:16,140
our number one patron at the
moment. Although as to see this

1371
01:21:16,260 --> 01:21:18,900
there's going to be competition
Happy New Year to the guardians

1372
01:21:18,900 --> 01:21:22,560
of reality in May 2014. Bring
you much happiness enjoy some

1373
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,890
karma for you both as well as
for all the no agenda peerage.

1374
01:21:26,970 --> 01:21:34,770
Oh. Oh, very nice. When waiting
for karma.

1375
01:21:35,220 --> 01:21:38,280
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought there
was more coming. Yes, karma of

1376
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:42,120
course repels mockers. You've
got karma. Oh, sorry. It's

1377
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,880
actually for us and no agenda
period. You know, I'm

1378
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,490
sorry. I was working. I was
working or looking

1379
01:21:47,490 --> 01:21:50,880
for new or digging around. I
was. I was I was doing your

1380
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:51,570
taxes.

1381
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,580
Yes, clipping my nails.

1382
01:21:54,540 --> 01:21:58,620
Alright, so that concludes our
donation, jacket and producer

1383
01:21:58,620 --> 01:22:02,370
and Associate Executive Producer
donation segment for show 579 To

1384
01:22:02,370 --> 01:22:06,480
start off year 2014. Want to
thank all those great folks and

1385
01:22:06,630 --> 01:22:10,200
knights and dukes and everyone
in between reminds you to go to

1386
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,620
divorce that org slash na
channel divorce.com/n. A if that

1387
01:22:13,620 --> 01:22:18,000
doesn't work. I also know agenda
nation and no agenda show.com

1388
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,970
both have donation buttons,
which have alternate ways of

1389
01:22:20,970 --> 01:22:24,750
getting us some, some production
they do

1390
01:22:24,750 --> 01:22:28,170
indeed. And in the PR section of
the show notes. I have a link.

1391
01:22:28,710 --> 01:22:31,350
That's actually I was looking
for the email, but couldn't find

1392
01:22:31,350 --> 01:22:34,350
it that quickly. But we have a
new app for the no agenda show

1393
01:22:34,770 --> 01:22:41,010
for Windows Phone. Oh, surely
there's someone out there who?

1394
01:22:42,030 --> 01:22:43,650
Who has a Windows? All right. I

1395
01:22:43,650 --> 01:22:45,750
think that's fantastic. I think
the way I don't think the

1396
01:22:45,750 --> 01:22:48,060
Windows Phone is a huge success
by any means. But there's a

1397
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,670
number of people and I think
many people who would have a

1398
01:22:50,670 --> 01:22:52,620
Windows phone might be
interested in no agenda.

1399
01:22:52,650 --> 01:22:55,440
Yeah, this is a Christian
Schroeder. And it includes a

1400
01:22:55,650 --> 01:22:59,010
player with Show Notes history
of played episodes and links to

1401
01:22:59,010 --> 01:23:03,900
no agenda websites. And it's on
it's in the Windows Phone Store.

1402
01:23:05,250 --> 01:23:08,670
Windows phone.com. But I have a
direct link to it. And we

1403
01:23:08,670 --> 01:23:11,190
appreciate that kind of work.
That's that's important. I

1404
01:23:11,220 --> 01:23:13,950
played with those Windows
phones. I was no it's not no

1405
01:23:13,950 --> 01:23:17,490
iPhone, but it was snappy and
quick. And I can understand I

1406
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,830
don't even see why it's not it
doesn't look like a bad phone to

1407
01:23:19,830 --> 01:23:20,580
me. quite honest.

1408
01:23:20,610 --> 01:23:22,020
No, no, it's actually usable.

1409
01:23:22,290 --> 01:23:25,320
It's totally usable. So we
appreciate that work. Thank you

1410
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,420
very much to our executive
producers, our Associate

1411
01:23:27,420 --> 01:23:30,660
Executive producers to our our
knights, our future knights who

1412
01:23:30,660 --> 01:23:33,930
will be united today our barons,
Baron etc. It really is you who

1413
01:23:33,930 --> 01:23:36,750
makes this happen. Of course not
just with your financial

1414
01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:40,620
reality, but also with your with
the actual contributions towards

1415
01:23:40,620 --> 01:23:42,420
the show. You know who you are,
you know what you're doing, and

1416
01:23:42,420 --> 01:23:48,690
we appreciate it. devora.org/n A
and of course, we always want

1417
01:23:48,690 --> 01:23:51,600
everybody listening to go out
and propagate the formula.

1418
01:23:52,050 --> 01:23:56,760
Our formula is this. We go out.
We hit people in the mouth

1419
01:24:09,810 --> 01:24:14,190
Alrighty then. Well, I spent, of
course there was no, there's no

1420
01:24:14,220 --> 01:24:20,700
news, so to speak. I spent a lot
of time looking at Turkey, which

1421
01:24:20,700 --> 01:24:24,330
we'll talk about later. There's
quite a lot of we have so many

1422
01:24:24,330 --> 01:24:27,900
people who are worried actually
in Turkey, who understand

1423
01:24:27,900 --> 01:24:30,420
Turkey, you understand what's
going on with the Gulenists

1424
01:24:30,420 --> 01:24:34,560
versus the ad and oh, by the
way, confirmed. It's not Erdogan

1425
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:39,270
is air Dhawan. Are these kind of
like in between a Dutch G and A

1426
01:24:39,270 --> 01:24:42,450
W. Okay, that from the official
pronunciation Yeah,

1427
01:24:42,480 --> 01:24:45,120
well, I'm never going to
pronounce it that way. You can

1428
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:51,660
do whatever you want. But I also
got it almost got angry is not

1429
01:24:51,660 --> 01:24:56,160
the word but like I've had so
much enough of this snow job

1430
01:24:56,160 --> 01:25:01,860
that has been propagated on us
and just like big Coyne I need

1431
01:25:01,860 --> 01:25:04,620
to point out some obvious
obvious things too. And in

1432
01:25:04,620 --> 01:25:08,010
particular our kind of audience
I don't think it's our our

1433
01:25:08,070 --> 01:25:12,600
producers and listeners, per se,
but it's the same profile of

1434
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:16,740
person of job they have where,
you know, Bitcoin is well, you

1435
01:25:16,740 --> 01:25:21,930
know, let's just ignore the fact
that the person who invented

1436
01:25:21,930 --> 01:25:26,820
bitcoin is non existent. This
has always baffled me that

1437
01:25:26,820 --> 01:25:31,140
really intelligent people who
know a lot about technology are

1438
01:25:31,140 --> 01:25:35,130
all over it and are willing to
ignore the fact that Satoshi

1439
01:25:35,130 --> 01:25:40,860
Nakamoto person group whatever
is just an unknown entity, that

1440
01:25:40,890 --> 01:25:45,330
kind of for me compromises the
whole thing. And the same is

1441
01:25:45,330 --> 01:25:50,790
happening with this Snowden
Poydras grand green rush shout

1442
01:25:50,790 --> 01:25:57,570
out Don roffe Bart Gellman and
most importantly Jacob

1443
01:25:57,570 --> 01:26:01,590
Appelbaum. I'd like yeah, I'd
like to focus my knives on him

1444
01:26:01,590 --> 01:26:02,010
today.

1445
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:05,700
Well that would be good you know
I had a all of a sudden

1446
01:26:05,700 --> 01:26:08,940
Applebaum shows up with a bunch
of these different blood you got

1447
01:26:08,940 --> 01:26:11,970
some clips it's actually JC some

1448
01:26:11,970 --> 01:26:15,630
clips holy crap some clips
showing up all over

1449
01:26:15,630 --> 01:26:19,050
the place and he's and he's some
of his assertions are weird. And

1450
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:23,520
I I'm interested in this too
because i j buzzkill Jr sent me

1451
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,710
a bunch of these clips. I don't
know what he was

1452
01:26:26,190 --> 01:26:29,460
what he was thinking but it was
hilarious from the flu is just

1453
01:26:29,490 --> 01:26:30,540
the boys say

1454
01:26:30,750 --> 01:26:33,930
back to him I said you know this
guy this guy's this not a guy

1455
01:26:33,930 --> 01:26:36,300
that you should be apparently
met it filters all you know,

1456
01:26:36,390 --> 01:26:40,560
he's a hero to a bunch of Yes,
yes. Thank you. That's really

1457
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:41,580
got to end that's

1458
01:26:41,610 --> 01:26:45,960
that has to end. And as far as
I'm concerned, it ends today.

1459
01:26:46,830 --> 01:26:51,300
All right, go couple of things.
So so he did a keynote quote

1460
01:26:51,300 --> 01:26:55,770
unquote, a speech which Greg
green rock did his keynote the

1461
01:26:55,770 --> 01:27:00,300
day before at the Chaos Computer
Club, their annual thing in

1462
01:27:00,300 --> 01:27:04,080
Germany now. Jacob Appelbaum
lives in Germany, as does Laura

1463
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,560
Poitras. And I am always just
curious now, apparently, he

1464
01:27:07,590 --> 01:27:12,930
someone's paying him to tweet, I
don't know what else he does. He

1465
01:27:12,930 --> 01:27:17,340
of course, is famously the
inventor and programmer and

1466
01:27:17,340 --> 01:27:22,260
writer of the onion router Tor.
And this is the same thing with

1467
01:27:22,260 --> 01:27:25,830
Bitcoin. And of course, I need
to drive one's attention to it.

1468
01:27:25,830 --> 01:27:30,450
So you really understand Tor,
you know, it's one thing to

1469
01:27:30,450 --> 01:27:35,670
write free software, and to give
away free software, our freedom

1470
01:27:35,670 --> 01:27:38,610
controller that that we've
actually, that we've opened up

1471
01:27:38,610 --> 01:27:41,550
before and when the outliner is
fixed in that way, there'll be

1472
01:27:41,550 --> 01:27:44,550
another round of people can use
it. And you can already get the

1473
01:27:44,550 --> 01:27:46,830
source code now whatever you
want. There's no money. We

1474
01:27:46,830 --> 01:27:49,140
didn't take any money. And I'm
talking about Dave Jones, who

1475
01:27:49,140 --> 01:27:52,260
really did all the programming.
But if you look at the the

1476
01:27:52,260 --> 01:27:56,220
sponsors of the onion router,
and we know that this is a 5013

1477
01:27:56,220 --> 01:28:01,800
C corporation does about $1.9
million in funds, the act of

1478
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:08,610
sponsors from for 2013 as listed
on the tour project.org website,

1479
01:28:09,090 --> 01:28:13,350
broadcast Board of Governors,
that is the FCC, essentially the

1480
01:28:13,380 --> 01:28:21,450
government, Sr, I International.
These are huge, huge nonprofit

1481
01:28:21,810 --> 01:28:24,900
organisations that have tonnes
of money coming in from places

1482
01:28:24,900 --> 01:28:28,650
like oh, I don't know, the US
State Department, as is one of

1483
01:28:28,650 --> 01:28:32,100
the sponsors US Department of
State Bureau of Democracy, Human

1484
01:28:32,100 --> 01:28:36,630
Rights and labour they will be
sponsoring through 2015 Sida. We

1485
01:28:36,630 --> 01:28:38,400
went through this previously the
Swedish International

1486
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,730
Development Cooperation Agency,
the National Science Foundation,

1487
01:28:41,730 --> 01:28:45,540
Radio Free Asia, the Knight
Foundation, and anonymous North

1488
01:28:45,540 --> 01:28:53,310
American ISP of the Ford
Foundation. Famous famous for

1489
01:28:53,340 --> 01:28:58,380
being anti semitic, the
anonymous North American NGO.

1490
01:28:58,980 --> 01:29:01,980
And then of course, there's more
than 4300 personal donations

1491
01:29:01,980 --> 01:29:05,850
from individuals like you. Now
if you look at past sponsors on

1492
01:29:05,850 --> 01:29:08,790
this very same space, this is
and this is essentially Jacob

1493
01:29:08,790 --> 01:29:13,590
Appelbaum, Jacob just him
there's there's no team that I

1494
01:29:13,590 --> 01:29:17,340
know of none a huge development
organisation no offices are the

1495
01:29:17,340 --> 01:29:21,030
guys in Berlin taking all this
money from Well, let's take a

1496
01:29:21,030 --> 01:29:26,130
look Google access now. The
Google Summer of Code, Human

1497
01:29:26,130 --> 01:29:31,560
Rights Watch all of these known
known NGOs with an agenda, but

1498
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:36,300
also very interesting to see. In
2006, he received the Omidyar

1499
01:29:36,300 --> 01:29:41,550
Network enzyme grant, so there
is where the circle connects

1500
01:29:41,910 --> 01:29:47,700
between Glenn Greenwald, Pierre
Omidyar and Jacob Appelbaum, who

1501
01:29:47,700 --> 01:29:53,280
now also is apparently a
journalist. As he coincided his

1502
01:29:53,940 --> 01:29:58,350
speech, his hour long speech
with the release of all kinds of

1503
01:29:58,380 --> 01:30:03,930
unbelievable information
nondairy bago Der Spiegel I tell

1504
01:30:03,930 --> 01:30:08,730
you. So he was in I have clips
where he's going to be referring

1505
01:30:08,730 --> 01:30:12,420
to this all this great
information he put in there,

1506
01:30:12,420 --> 01:30:15,840
Spiegel. And I don't know, if
you had a chance to read this

1507
01:30:15,870 --> 01:30:21,600
article, the framing of this, to
me is very simple. This is more

1508
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:26,640
of make the net, the NSA look
like horrible, horrible Blackhat

1509
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:31,680
hackers who are out to penetrate
your not just your computer, but

1510
01:30:31,710 --> 01:30:38,400
every orifice you have. And to
protect the true evil that is

1511
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,670
going on, which is all the
companies made that he's taken

1512
01:30:41,670 --> 01:30:45,480
money from, first of all, and
you know, the State Department

1513
01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:48,900
runs lots of Tor nodes, lots of
them, you can figure all this

1514
01:30:48,900 --> 01:30:54,660
out. I think he is an agent of
trying to protect the true

1515
01:30:54,900 --> 01:30:58,260
whatever is really left of the
true intelligence apparatus in

1516
01:30:58,260 --> 01:31:01,320
America, which is the
centralised services where

1517
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:05,880
people gladly build up their
profile on Facebook and LinkedIn

1518
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:10,530
and Gmail and everything, Google
and Yahoo, because he protects

1519
01:31:10,530 --> 01:31:16,440
those companies, the fascist
companies, while yelling all

1520
01:31:16,440 --> 01:31:20,730
kinds of total nonsense about
other things, and he is indeed

1521
01:31:20,730 --> 01:31:23,820
now seen as a hero, and it has
to stop because I'm calling him

1522
01:31:23,820 --> 01:31:27,300
out as an agent. So if you look
at this, their Spiegel article,

1523
01:31:27,330 --> 01:31:30,930
the first thing that really made
me mad, which is very easy for

1524
01:31:30,930 --> 01:31:35,610
everyone to just you can Google
this. They he's trying to frame

1525
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:42,240
how many evil people are working
at T A AU, which is total

1526
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:44,880
awareness operation or whatever
the hell is it? What does he

1527
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:52,710
call it? Oh, come to me of the
NSA. And here's how they're

1528
01:31:52,710 --> 01:31:56,940
Spiegel frames it. And he's
credited as one of the

1529
01:31:56,940 --> 01:32:00,690
journalists now. In January
2010, numerous homeowners in San

1530
01:32:00,690 --> 01:32:03,540
Antonio, Texas stood baffled in
front of their closed garage

1531
01:32:03,540 --> 01:32:06,480
doors. They wanted to drive to
work or head off to their

1532
01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:09,210
grocery shopping, but the garage
door openers had gone dead

1533
01:32:09,210 --> 01:32:12,030
leaving them stranded. No matter
how many times they pressed the

1534
01:32:12,030 --> 01:32:15,150
buttons the doors wouldn't
budge. The problem primarily

1535
01:32:15,150 --> 01:32:17,580
affected residents in the
western part of the city around

1536
01:32:17,580 --> 01:32:20,070
military drive and the
interstate highway known as loop

1537
01:32:20,070 --> 01:32:23,190
410. And the United States a
country of cars and commuters.

1538
01:32:23,190 --> 01:32:25,860
The mysterious garage door
problem quickly became an issue

1539
01:32:25,860 --> 01:32:28,530
for local politicians.
Ultimately, the municipal

1540
01:32:28,530 --> 01:32:31,560
government solved the riddle
fault for the error lay with the

1541
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:33,690
United States foreign
intelligence service. The

1542
01:32:33,690 --> 01:32:37,440
National Security Agency, which
has offices in San Antonio

1543
01:32:37,590 --> 01:32:40,350
official at the agency were
forced to admit that one of the

1544
01:32:40,350 --> 01:32:43,260
NSA is radio antennas was
broadcasting at the same

1545
01:32:43,260 --> 01:32:46,410
frequency as the garage door
openers. Embarrassed officials

1546
01:32:46,410 --> 01:32:48,870
at the intelligence agency
promised to resolve the issue as

1547
01:32:48,870 --> 01:32:51,840
quickly as possible. And soon
the doors began opening again.

1548
01:32:51,990 --> 01:32:55,170
It was thanks for the garage
door opener episode that Texans

1549
01:32:55,170 --> 01:32:58,230
learn just how far the NSA is
work had encroached upon their

1550
01:32:58,230 --> 01:33:01,680
daily lives. For quite some time
now the intelligence agency has

1551
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:04,680
maintained a branch with around
2000 employees at Lackland Air

1552
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:09,660
Force Base also in San Antonio.
So he's saying essentially

1553
01:33:09,660 --> 01:33:13,710
because of these 2000 employees,
and they started broadcasting

1554
01:33:13,710 --> 01:33:19,500
the secret signals. So if you
look into this, just so that's

1555
01:33:19,500 --> 01:33:23,250
the framing he's trying to frame
and say, you've got secret shit

1556
01:33:23,250 --> 01:33:28,080
gone on people. I happened to be
a licenced amateur radio

1557
01:33:28,110 --> 01:33:33,840
operator and there's all kinds
of open source information about

1558
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,780
who is allowed to broadcast
where and what. And this

1559
01:33:36,780 --> 01:33:41,400
actually started in 2005, when
the Department of Defence not

1560
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,580
the NSA per se, the department
department department, the

1561
01:33:44,580 --> 01:33:52,260
Department of Defence defence,
started their LM, our system,

1562
01:33:52,620 --> 01:33:56,580
the land mobile radio system,
which are for all of the DOD,

1563
01:33:56,580 --> 01:34:00,570
not just the NSA. And you can
there are stories going back to

1564
01:34:00,570 --> 01:34:05,490
2005, not 2010. But back to
2005, even in Canadia, Canada

1565
01:34:05,490 --> 01:34:10,320
Navia. And I have these links in
the show notes when this started

1566
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:14,760
to happen. And if you look at
garage door openers, and there

1567
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:18,570
were there was fair warning that
the LMR was going to be on the

1568
01:34:18,570 --> 01:34:26,400
350 megahertz. Frequency in that
range, which is what these non

1569
01:34:26,430 --> 01:34:31,860
unlicensed part 15 garage door
openers are. And the rule with

1570
01:34:31,860 --> 01:34:36,900
part 15 from the 390 megahertz
the rule from part 15 Is that

1571
01:34:36,930 --> 01:34:42,690
you may use very low power on
certain frequencies. But you

1572
01:34:42,690 --> 01:34:48,960
have to yield two priorities and
priority licensors licensees of

1573
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,510
the frequency which the
government they send out their

1574
01:34:51,510 --> 01:34:55,080
information said hello garage
door guys. We're going to start

1575
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:59,610
operating our LMR world globally
but really all across United

1576
01:34:59,610 --> 01:35:02,010
States on This frequency and
they ignored it.

1577
01:35:02,790 --> 01:35:05,100
Right They were told to go to
315 s

1578
01:35:05,490 --> 01:35:09,570
and they ignored it. And this is
the framing of your huge not

1579
01:35:09,570 --> 01:35:11,460
just by just one set up set it
up that

1580
01:35:11,490 --> 01:35:13,980
yeah, no, I agree I've no I
think you're right. But then

1581
01:35:13,980 --> 01:35:15,840
they ignored it because they're
just lazy

1582
01:35:15,870 --> 01:35:21,450
right but for the dare Spiegel
to frame an entire NSA is evil

1583
01:35:21,450 --> 01:35:25,500
with this does not bode well for
the journalism contained there.

1584
01:35:25,500 --> 01:35:28,800
And as far as I'm concerned,
that bode well for the article.

1585
01:35:28,830 --> 01:35:31,920
No, it does not it's really
stupid. A looked

1586
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,470
into it, and some lawyers are
crooked.

1587
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:40,050
Now Applebaum, if you look at
his Wikipedia entry, has pretty

1588
01:35:40,050 --> 01:35:44,670
much worked for the government.
You know, so why all of a sudden

1589
01:35:44,670 --> 01:35:50,250
everyone is so accepting of him
as some hero is beyond me. It

1590
01:35:50,250 --> 01:35:53,820
truly is beyond me. If you look
at his Wikipedia page, I'm gonna

1591
01:35:53,820 --> 01:35:59,790
go do that. Yeah, in fact, I'll
play the jingle independent

1592
01:35:59,790 --> 01:36:03,720
computer security researcher and
hacker. He was employed by the

1593
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:06,780
University of Washington, a core
member of the Tor Project

1594
01:36:07,020 --> 01:36:10,080
represented WikiLeaks at the
hope conference. Yeah, he just

1595
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,270
that's what he popped onto the
scene. Never

1596
01:36:12,630 --> 01:36:15,750
picture of him on the Wikipedia.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Terrible.

1597
01:36:15,750 --> 01:36:15,990
Yeah.

1598
01:36:20,490 --> 01:36:21,960
So he's essentially

1599
01:36:21,990 --> 01:36:24,780
Okay. By the way, he Laura
Poitras does this too.

1600
01:36:24,809 --> 01:36:28,049
Well, hold on here. Let's go
back for a second, because this

1601
01:36:28,049 --> 01:36:31,949
is very important. He was
brought into this by Laura

1602
01:36:31,949 --> 01:36:37,709
Poitras. Now, Laura Poydras. I
have I have yet to see a serious

1603
01:36:37,709 --> 01:36:42,419
interview, a serious analysis of
who she is. And both Poitras and

1604
01:36:42,419 --> 01:36:47,819
Applebaum are doing something
that is really that I'm that I'm

1605
01:36:47,819 --> 01:36:52,169
going to start doing, John, how
many years? Did the United

1606
01:36:52,169 --> 01:36:55,559
States stop me and investigate
me at the border? How many

1607
01:36:55,559 --> 01:36:56,069
years?

1608
01:36:56,100 --> 01:36:58,710
Let me just quote right from
this because it applies to you.

1609
01:36:58,830 --> 01:37:02,940
He has subsequently been
repeatedly targeted by a US law

1610
01:37:02,940 --> 01:37:05,100
enforcement agency, how many

1611
01:37:05,130 --> 01:37:08,610
I went to maybe three years I
could not get into the country

1612
01:37:08,610 --> 01:37:11,820
without being questioned for
hours. And what's great about

1613
01:37:11,820 --> 01:37:15,570
your being targeted, my friend,
both Laura Poitras, and

1614
01:37:15,570 --> 01:37:19,950
Applebaum have no proof. They
have no proof that they were

1615
01:37:19,950 --> 01:37:23,520
held at the border. There's no
proof that just saying it.

1616
01:37:25,020 --> 01:37:29,010
I don't have the proof either. I
mean, how can I prove that

1617
01:37:29,010 --> 01:37:30,180
happen? They don't give you a
note.

1618
01:37:30,750 --> 01:37:33,660
Wire one time, if you remember.
Did I

1619
01:37:33,660 --> 01:37:37,770
wear a wire? Yeah. Did we record
that? Yeah, we broadcast it.

1620
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,430
Yeah. And we should find that. I
was wearing a wire.

1621
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:42,720
wasn't that interesting?

1622
01:37:44,970 --> 01:37:49,890
So so this gives this is Laura
Poitras, his entire credibility

1623
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:53,970
and Apple bombs is that they've
been stopped by the US Customs.

1624
01:37:54,090 --> 01:37:57,630
My wife gets thrown into the
fish tank every single time she

1625
01:37:57,630 --> 01:38:01,860
arrives at US Customs. She's
being targeted. Targeted. We're

1626
01:38:01,860 --> 01:38:05,940
both being targeted. So this is
not credibility. It's bullshit.

1627
01:38:06,780 --> 01:38:09,570
You fucking shill. I'm sorry, I
get really mad about this.

1628
01:38:09,930 --> 01:38:13,770
Alright, so Poydras. Now if no
one has read the

1629
01:38:13,860 --> 01:38:17,640
same thing. Now he was detained
with an actual number, detained

1630
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:21,990
him 12 times at the US border
after trips abroad and seize the

1631
01:38:21,990 --> 01:38:23,190
laptop. Yeah.

1632
01:38:25,620 --> 01:38:31,170
Poydras. Now Poydras is very
interesting. If you have not

1633
01:38:31,170 --> 01:38:38,190
read about the the IED attack
when she was in Iraq, and

1634
01:38:38,190 --> 01:38:43,950
happened to be up on the roof.
So, in fact, I'm going to find

1635
01:38:43,950 --> 01:38:47,850
the exact article for you
because I think it is. It is

1636
01:38:47,850 --> 01:38:51,660
quite important. You've read
about this, haven't you, John?

1637
01:38:52,140 --> 01:38:56,040
Here it is. US soldiers alleged
Poitras, co author of NSA Oh

1638
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:56,430
yeah, no,

1639
01:38:56,430 --> 01:39:00,120
no, we had a clip we had a clip
describing the situation where

1640
01:39:00,150 --> 01:39:03,120
ToysRUs apparently had set these
guys up and guys were killed in

1641
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:05,640
the process. That's why the
military hates her.

1642
01:39:05,670 --> 01:39:11,820
The military does not like her.
And she lied about this setup.

1643
01:39:11,820 --> 01:39:15,150
So what happened to was a she
was filming she was staying with

1644
01:39:15,150 --> 01:39:20,400
some with what was thought to be
the kingpin of this. Of this IED

1645
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:26,370
attack in Iraq in what was it? I
have to find it here. Why am I

1646
01:39:26,370 --> 01:39:29,430
got the links in the show notes
when she was up on the roof

1647
01:39:29,580 --> 01:39:33,660
filming when this IED attack
took place? A couple of guys got

1648
01:39:33,660 --> 01:39:37,860
hurts badly think one or two
died. And then she denied it but

1649
01:39:37,860 --> 01:39:40,890
later she wrote an email which
has been published. She said

1650
01:39:40,890 --> 01:39:44,160
yeah, no, I was on the roof. I
was filming and in other words,

1651
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:48,180
she knew that this was going to
take place and she did not tell

1652
01:39:48,180 --> 01:39:52,500
her fellow countrymen Hey, you
know you're gonna get killed get

1653
01:39:52,500 --> 01:39:55,830
killed. No, she felt it was more
important to get the footage

1654
01:39:56,430 --> 01:40:00,780
which makes her the traitor in
my mind that And she's never

1655
01:40:00,780 --> 01:40:05,010
been prosecuted for that or
anything. It's someone who does

1656
01:40:05,010 --> 01:40:11,190
that for the, for the for love
of film, cinema, it really is

1657
01:40:11,220 --> 01:40:15,810
needs to check herself. That's
really very, very low and the US

1658
01:40:15,810 --> 01:40:19,290
military does not like her for
this very reason. The words got

1659
01:40:19,290 --> 01:40:23,190
out. So whatever, however she
somehow was getting her money,

1660
01:40:23,190 --> 01:40:26,160
we know that she's a MacArthur
Fellow, so she got some money

1661
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:29,850
from there, but she's certainly
not to be trusted. But anyway,

1662
01:40:30,180 --> 01:40:35,190
so she somehow is the one that
Snowden reaches out to why this

1663
01:40:35,190 --> 01:40:39,330
happens. You know, we have our
thoughts about this being a CIA

1664
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:42,900
operation who do the real work
who really do kill people, they

1665
01:40:42,900 --> 01:40:45,240
do wet work they do. They kill
people on the street, they kill

1666
01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:48,660
people in any way they need to.
They kill people with drones.

1667
01:40:48,810 --> 01:40:51,720
And they truly are building the
Internet of Things. They have

1668
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:54,450
their investments in all
companies that are now being

1669
01:40:54,450 --> 01:41:00,210
protected, interestingly enough
by Applebaum. But the NSA, the

1670
01:41:00,210 --> 01:41:04,110
pansy boys, and the technology
that is oh, so scary. It's so

1671
01:41:04,110 --> 01:41:09,990
scary. It's also scary. This is
what Applebaum is promoting. So

1672
01:41:09,990 --> 01:41:13,860
I took his hour, and I chopped
it up, I got a lot of clips, but

1673
01:41:13,860 --> 01:41:16,920
it's they're huge. Most of them
are very, very short. But I want

1674
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:20,760
to dissect this, and I think
it's important to us that we

1675
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:24,570
need to help people understand
this guy may not be your friend.

1676
01:41:24,690 --> 01:41:28,170
I certainly don't think he's
any, any kind of hero. And

1677
01:41:28,170 --> 01:41:31,140
there's in addition to this,
John, I think there's a gay

1678
01:41:31,140 --> 01:41:35,190
thing going on. And, you know,
we're obviously proponents of

1679
01:41:35,190 --> 01:41:36,870
anyone doing whatever they want
to do.

1680
01:41:37,140 --> 01:41:40,020
Well, there is a mention I
should manage, say in the in the

1681
01:41:40,020 --> 01:41:44,280
Wikipedia article that he worked
for kink.com I don't know what

1682
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,490
he did there. But he was kicked
off an internet pornography

1683
01:41:47,490 --> 01:41:50,100
operation out of San Francisco.
Oh, they're probably working

1684
01:41:50,460 --> 01:41:51,660
memory. This is

1685
01:41:51,660 --> 01:41:55,800
where they had the whole he his
technology was running servers

1686
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:57,690
that had Pedobear crap on

1687
01:41:57,690 --> 01:42:01,710
it. Yeah, it's a lot of BDSM
BDSM stuff cat fighting

1688
01:42:01,710 --> 01:42:02,640
finishes.

1689
01:42:02,820 --> 01:42:06,450
But I think there is a because
maybe these people are being

1690
01:42:06,450 --> 01:42:11,250
controlled through sexuality or
some other thing. Look at

1691
01:42:11,250 --> 01:42:14,370
Greenwald. I pretty sure
Applebaum is gay and I'm pretty

1692
01:42:14,370 --> 01:42:16,860
sure Laura Poitras is gay. This
is

1693
01:42:17,250 --> 01:42:21,870
I would not, I would say just
appear by appearances and also

1694
01:42:21,870 --> 01:42:24,600
the way they act when they're on
the interviews. I don't think

1695
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:26,010
there's any question about that.

1696
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:30,660
Right. But I I'm always worried
when all when you Yeah, when you

1697
01:42:30,660 --> 01:42:35,160
bring in sexuality into spying,
it goes hand in hand somehow.

1698
01:42:36,150 --> 01:42:39,690
I'm not sure how it fits in, but
it will, some of that may become

1699
01:42:39,690 --> 01:42:42,690
apparent to some of these clips.
So first, here is Applebaum

1700
01:42:42,690 --> 01:42:44,190
framing his speech?

1701
01:42:44,220 --> 01:42:48,330
So what's it all about, though?
Fundamentally, it's about

1702
01:42:48,330 --> 01:42:49,140
control baby.

1703
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,200
Okay, so he's also trying to do
stick

1704
01:42:52,770 --> 01:42:53,850
control baby.

1705
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:57,300
He said that, yes, he's trying
to do Austin Powers stick on

1706
01:42:57,300 --> 01:43:00,270
stage. And there's no rafter.

1707
01:43:00,510 --> 01:43:03,600
And that is what we're going to
get into. It's not just about

1708
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:06,270
control of machines. What
happened with rainfall is about

1709
01:43:06,270 --> 01:43:09,180
control of people. And
fundamentally, when we talk

1710
01:43:09,180 --> 01:43:11,820
about things like internet
freedom, and we talk about Hold

1711
01:43:11,820 --> 01:43:15,750
on, when someone uses Internet
freedom, they're on the wrong

1712
01:43:15,750 --> 01:43:17,700
side of the debate, as far as
I'm concerned, but

1713
01:43:17,700 --> 01:43:20,340
tactical surveillance and
strategic surveillance. We're

1714
01:43:20,340 --> 01:43:23,310
talking about control of people
through the machinery that they

1715
01:43:23,310 --> 01:43:27,600
use. And this is a really, I
think, a really, kind of, you

1716
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:30,750
know, I'm trying to make you
laugh a little bit, because what

1717
01:43:30,750 --> 01:43:33,030
I'm going to show you today is
risks living depressing.

1718
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:36,330
So he this is a common theme of
him framing this now there's

1719
01:43:36,330 --> 01:43:39,060
about 6000 people in the
audience who have paid for this.

1720
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:43,800
And I haven't going to just
guess that if you have the chaos

1721
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:48,270
computing club's annual
conference, the three Oh, C

1722
01:43:48,270 --> 01:43:53,280
three, I'm going to guess that
maybe there's some spies and

1723
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:57,600
intelligence operatives in the
audience of just guessing. And

1724
01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:00,930
maybe there's one on stage, and
everything this particular guy

1725
01:44:00,930 --> 01:44:05,280
says is scary. It's frightening.
It's scary. It's risks leading

1726
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:06,090
depressing.

1727
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:10,440
Basically, the NSA, they want to
be able to spy on you. And they,

1728
01:44:10,620 --> 01:44:12,990
if they have 10 different
options for spying on you that

1729
01:44:12,990 --> 01:44:15,150
you know about, they have 13
ways of doing it, and they do

1730
01:44:15,150 --> 01:44:17,250
all 13. What does that mean?

1731
01:44:19,230 --> 01:44:20,880
What does that mean?

1732
01:44:20,969 --> 01:44:24,569
I think he's slipping up. And as
you'll hear in a lot of what

1733
01:44:24,569 --> 01:44:29,339
he's talking about in this
speech, he's, he's exposing

1734
01:44:29,339 --> 01:44:32,609
things that he is privy to that
have never been discussed by

1735
01:44:32,609 --> 01:44:36,209
Snowden, or it has not been
released in public by Snowden,

1736
01:44:36,209 --> 01:44:41,759
that's for sure. But also not by
Glenn Greenwald, or Bart Gellman

1737
01:44:41,849 --> 01:44:46,679
and Rohde Applebaum also had an
interview with Snowden. And he

1738
01:44:46,679 --> 01:44:48,899
published that event snowed and
Snowden had a kind of a

1739
01:44:48,899 --> 01:44:51,449
different voice in that
interview was little more snarky

1740
01:44:51,449 --> 01:44:54,089
and so who the hell knows if he
even actually spoke with him?

1741
01:44:54,179 --> 01:44:56,519
But I'm telling you Apple bomb
is not clean.

1742
01:44:57,150 --> 01:45:00,510
So that's a that's a pretty
scary thing scare him Scary

1743
01:45:00,510 --> 01:45:01,920
basically their goal scary

1744
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:04,950
that they they have, there's 10
ways they'll use 13. That's

1745
01:45:04,950 --> 01:45:06,390
pretty scary. Yeah,

1746
01:45:07,440 --> 01:45:08,850
be very scary,

1747
01:45:09,059 --> 01:45:12,419
is to have total surveillance of
everything that they're

1748
01:45:12,419 --> 01:45:15,329
interested in. So there really
is no boundary to what they want

1749
01:45:15,329 --> 01:45:18,539
to do. There is only sometimes a
boundary of what they are funded

1750
01:45:18,539 --> 01:45:21,509
to be able to do and the amount
of things they're able to do at

1751
01:45:21,509 --> 01:45:25,229
scale. They seem to just do
those things without thinking

1752
01:45:25,229 --> 01:45:27,329
too much about it. And they're
specific, this

1753
01:45:27,330 --> 01:45:31,380
is all subjective conjecture.
He's this, he has no proof for

1754
01:45:31,380 --> 01:45:35,910
this. And I'm not defending the
NSA. But this guy is I know, a

1755
01:45:35,910 --> 01:45:39,810
pitch man, when I see one, I
know a huckster and a Chuckster.

1756
01:45:39,810 --> 01:45:42,840
When I hear one, this guy is
selling you something

1757
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,180
tactical things where they have
to target a group or an

1758
01:45:45,180 --> 01:45:48,060
individual. And those things
seem limited, either by budget

1759
01:45:48,060 --> 01:45:52,680
or simply by their time. And as
we have released today, on their

1760
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:55,710
struggles website, which it
shouldn't be live, I just

1761
01:45:55,710 --> 01:45:57,390
checked, it should be live for
everyone here,

1762
01:45:57,450 --> 01:46:00,180
oh, a woman, I'm sorry, that
would be the supporting sales

1763
01:46:00,180 --> 01:46:03,840
materials in their Spiegel,
where we set up the really scary

1764
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:11,460
fact that the NSA use the the
national land mobile radio

1765
01:46:11,460 --> 01:46:15,210
system, and it screwed up garage
door openers that were legacy.

1766
01:46:15,450 --> 01:46:16,290
Yeah,

1767
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:21,060
we actually show a whole bunch
of details about their budgets,

1768
01:46:21,090 --> 01:46:25,650
as well as the individuals
involved with the NSA and the

1769
01:46:25,650 --> 01:46:28,260
Tailored Access Operations Group
in terms of numbers,

1770
01:46:28,290 --> 01:46:32,220
the Tailored Access Operations
Group. So here, here he is

1771
01:46:32,220 --> 01:46:35,580
talking about that one specific
thing, John, the numbers,

1772
01:46:35,670 --> 01:46:40,020
there's 2000, people who are
ruining garage door openers,

1773
01:46:40,110 --> 01:46:44,220
so should give you a rough idea,
showing that there was a small

1774
01:46:44,250 --> 01:46:47,010
period of time in which the
internet was really free. And we

1775
01:46:47,010 --> 01:46:49,800
did not have people from the US
military that we're watching

1776
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:54,060
over it, and exploiting everyone
on it. And now we see every year

1777
01:46:54,210 --> 01:46:56,730
that the number of people who
are hired to break into people's

1778
01:46:56,730 --> 01:47:01,590
computers, as part of grand
operations. Those people are

1779
01:47:01,590 --> 01:47:04,320
growing day by day, actually.
And every year, there are more

1780
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:06,180
and more people that are
allocated and we see this

1781
01:47:06,180 --> 01:47:06,690
growth.

1782
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:09,720
Wow, oh, my god, well, I'm so
happy to see the growth because

1783
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:13,560
they're exploiting everyone.
This is this is his This is his

1784
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:14,670
entire

1785
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:19,380
speech is not about Google
giving your information to the

1786
01:47:19,380 --> 01:47:22,560
government. It is not about
Yahoo giving you information to

1787
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:23,250
the government,

1788
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:27,240
about Mueller hanging out the
best Facebook. In fact, Facebook

1789
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:31,860
is not even mentioned once, in
this entire speech. It is all

1790
01:47:31,860 --> 01:47:37,620
about low level, technical hacks
and cracks. That may you know,

1791
01:47:37,650 --> 01:47:45,420
it's to me, it's like Get Smart
chaos 1950s. So what this is

1792
01:47:45,450 --> 01:47:48,660
chicken shit compared to what's
really going on. But this is

1793
01:47:48,660 --> 01:47:51,900
what is happening. He's taking a
group of very intelligent

1794
01:47:51,900 --> 01:47:57,360
people, and is snowing them. I
mean, listen to his proof,

1795
01:47:57,599 --> 01:48:01,469
there is a planetary strategic
surveillance system. And they're

1796
01:48:01,499 --> 01:48:04,829
while they're many of them,
actually, everything from I

1797
01:48:04,829 --> 01:48:07,889
think off planetary surveillance
gear, which is probably the

1798
01:48:07,889 --> 01:48:10,949
National Reconnaissance Office,
and their satellite systems for

1799
01:48:10,949 --> 01:48:13,109
surveillance, like the keyhole
satellites. These are all things

1800
01:48:13,139 --> 01:48:15,089
most, for the most part, we
actually know about these

1801
01:48:15,089 --> 01:48:16,439
things. They're on Wikipedia.

1802
01:48:16,500 --> 01:48:21,480
Oh, well, of course. It's on
Wikipedia. So of course, yeah,

1803
01:48:21,540 --> 01:48:24,030
of course. Now, it's not that I
don't don't want to believe

1804
01:48:24,030 --> 01:48:26,760
this. But what kind of speech?
Are you doing what you're

1805
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:29,580
saying, Oh, they have offworld
listening devices. That's the

1806
01:48:29,580 --> 01:48:32,070
NRO. Of course, these this
shooting stuff in space all the

1807
01:48:32,070 --> 01:48:35,700
time. But because on Wikipedia,
that's your proof. Please don't

1808
01:48:35,700 --> 01:48:36,270
insult me.

1809
01:48:37,049 --> 01:48:39,239
But I want to talk a little bit
more about the internet side of

1810
01:48:39,239 --> 01:48:41,399
things because I think that's
really fascinating. It's really

1811
01:48:41,639 --> 01:48:42,929
part of what we are really

1812
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:47,160
what does it accent from that?
He says part an important isn't

1813
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:51,150
what kind of accent is that? Is
that like a Buffalo New York

1814
01:48:51,150 --> 01:48:52,890
accent? Or where's that from?

1815
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:58,260
It's one of those accents. That
is I think is milieu based, that

1816
01:48:58,260 --> 01:49:02,010
you will not find, you know, as
a general unless it's like, it's

1817
01:49:02,010 --> 01:49:04,920
a community based accent is
you'll never really discover

1818
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:07,560
you'll find other people that
have the accent, like we had

1819
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:10,650
with the Soledad O'Brien and a
group of women that have this

1820
01:49:10,980 --> 01:49:14,430
kind of anxious way of
presenting and reading, which

1821
01:49:14,430 --> 01:49:17,370
somebody I think described as
sitting on the toilet trying to

1822
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:22,290
trying to take a crap accent,
but you won't find it as I don't

1823
01:49:22,290 --> 01:49:24,720
think you're right. We'd have to
find some really good linguists

1824
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:27,360
that could identify it. I don't
know. But just

1825
01:49:27,390 --> 01:49:30,630
a note, the first thing that I
see in the chat room is Adam is

1826
01:49:30,630 --> 01:49:34,440
spreading disinfo he hasn't even
watched the presentation. You

1827
01:49:34,440 --> 01:49:38,220
know what? Clip it without
watch. And Q How can even duck

1828
01:49:38,220 --> 01:49:41,700
when you even spray? Well, how
can you even say that? I watched

1829
01:49:41,700 --> 01:49:41,970
that

1830
01:49:41,970 --> 01:49:43,440
guy kick him off

1831
01:49:44,580 --> 01:49:46,710
briefing today with their
Spiegel or what has actually

1832
01:49:46,710 --> 01:49:49,500
been released. Just to be clear
on the timeline. I'm not

1833
01:49:49,500 --> 01:49:52,800
disclosing at first. I'm working
as an independent journalist

1834
01:49:52,830 --> 01:49:55,470
summarising the work that we
have already released onto the

1835
01:49:55,470 --> 01:49:57,900
internet as part of a
publication house that went

1836
01:49:57,900 --> 01:50:00,960
through a very large editorial
process. In which we redacted

1837
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:03,750
all the names of agents and
information about those names,

1838
01:50:04,290 --> 01:50:06,090
including their phone numbers
and email addresses.

1839
01:50:06,990 --> 01:50:11,880
Now, now explain this applause
to me. So he just goes through

1840
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:15,000
this whole thing which is barely
understandable. I didn't do this

1841
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:17,460
by myself. We work with a huge
organisation we'd read them and

1842
01:50:17,460 --> 01:50:20,280
talk to everyone we redacted it
would put it up and no agents

1843
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:22,770
names were exposed and
everybody's clapping what are

1844
01:50:22,770 --> 01:50:26,430
they the agents in the audience?
Yeah, it must be they're all

1845
01:50:26,430 --> 01:50:28,170
happy all. Thanks for not

1846
01:50:28,170 --> 01:50:30,990
exposing me man. Yeah, I'm gonna
have to quit and go work for

1847
01:50:30,990 --> 01:50:32,400
General Motors mean, that

1848
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:35,250
is literally what I'm hearing.
Am I nuts? No, I think

1849
01:50:35,250 --> 01:50:36,780
that's exactly why else would
you clap,

1850
01:50:36,930 --> 01:50:38,640
where the clapping for this
phone numbers

1851
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:45,120
and email addresses. And I
should say that I actually think

1852
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:48,750
that the laws here are wrong,
because they are in favour of an

1853
01:50:48,750 --> 01:50:52,320
oppressor who is criminal. So
when we redact the names of

1854
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:54,150
people who are engaged in
criminal,

1855
01:50:54,150 --> 01:50:57,060
I can't listen to it. It's this
is very interesting. I know,

1856
01:50:57,060 --> 01:50:57,570
listen to you,

1857
01:50:57,570 --> 01:50:59,490
including drone murder, we are
actually

1858
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:04,230
home. back that up. He's talking
about drone murder, NSA doesn't

1859
01:51:04,260 --> 01:51:05,070
run drone,

1860
01:51:05,070 --> 01:51:08,130
we redact the names of people
who are engaged in criminal

1861
01:51:08,130 --> 01:51:11,220
activity, including drone
murder, we are actually not

1862
01:51:11,250 --> 01:51:13,920
doing the right thing. But I
believe that we should comply

1863
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,770
with the law in order to
continue to publish.

1864
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:21,300
Okay, so he's saying that
somehow, he knows he has

1865
01:51:21,300 --> 01:51:25,920
information that he has received
from people who are involved in

1866
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:29,760
criminal activity committing
drone murder, which is really

1867
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:34,440
would be the CIA, but okay. And
they've decided not to publish

1868
01:51:34,440 --> 01:51:38,910
that. So that they can continue
to publish, dude, if you know

1869
01:51:38,910 --> 01:51:44,040
that someone's in the government
is involved in actual criminal

1870
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:49,500
activity and murder a human you
need to be a real hero and and

1871
01:51:49,530 --> 01:51:54,450
fess up with that. That's not
That's not okay. And he makes it

1872
01:51:54,450 --> 01:51:54,810
worse.

1873
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:57,690
I think it may be illegal not
to.

1874
01:51:58,770 --> 01:52:01,380
But he's saying that that's not
the way he No, he says,

1875
01:52:01,650 --> 01:52:05,220
no, no, I'm but I'm just saying,
I there may be a statute

1876
01:52:05,340 --> 01:52:07,680
that if you see that you that'd
be may be true.

1877
01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:10,950
That if you see something, you
must say something in this

1878
01:52:11,130 --> 01:52:11,910
instance.

1879
01:52:12,150 --> 01:52:15,000
So he's he's saying, I want to
release the names, but I can't

1880
01:52:15,030 --> 01:52:18,240
because otherwise we can't
publish. Yeah, well, what's more

1881
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:21,600
important? No, no, no, that's
what that's what he said. Well,

1882
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:21,660
I

1883
01:52:21,660 --> 01:52:24,060
noticed when he said the whole
thing is it is this bowl, he

1884
01:52:24,060 --> 01:52:27,060
just well read this. None of
this is true.

1885
01:52:27,090 --> 01:52:29,520
Well, here he now he does those
lists of

1886
01:52:29,550 --> 01:52:30,990
drone murderers

1887
01:52:31,769 --> 01:52:37,649
kit now we have now he makes it
even worse, by hedging. And

1888
01:52:37,649 --> 01:52:41,189
saying, Well, you know,
sometimes it's legitimate what

1889
01:52:41,189 --> 01:52:46,559
the NSA does, flabbergasted that
no one is throwing watermelons

1890
01:52:46,559 --> 01:52:47,729
at this guy. We also

1891
01:52:47,730 --> 01:52:52,800
redacted the names of victims of
NSA surveillance, because we

1892
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:55,650
think that there's a balance.
Unfortunately, there is a

1893
01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:58,410
serious problem, which is that
the US government asserts that

1894
01:52:58,410 --> 01:53:01,320
you don't have standing to prove
that you've been surveilled,

1895
01:53:01,620 --> 01:53:04,440
unless we release that kind of
information. But we don't want

1896
01:53:04,440 --> 01:53:06,540
to release that kind of
information in case it could be

1897
01:53:06,540 --> 01:53:07,440
a legitimate target

1898
01:53:07,469 --> 01:53:11,609
and a legitimate target. Hold on
a second. I thought that this

1899
01:53:11,609 --> 01:53:15,269
all was all about this is all
wrong. But none of the maybe

1900
01:53:15,269 --> 01:53:17,729
there's some legitimate targets.
What is this term?

1901
01:53:17,759 --> 01:53:20,609
We I'm really uncomfortable with
that term. But let's say that

1902
01:53:20,609 --> 01:53:23,309
there is a legitimate target the
the most legitimate target and

1903
01:53:23,309 --> 01:53:26,939
we didn't want to make that
decision. But we did also want

1904
01:53:26,939 --> 01:53:29,309
to make sure that we didn't harm
someone. But we also wanted to

1905
01:53:29,309 --> 01:53:32,009
show concrete examples. So if
you look at the Spiegel stuff

1906
01:53:32,009 --> 01:53:34,919
online, we redacted the names,
even of those who are victimised

1907
01:53:34,919 --> 01:53:38,399
by the NSA is oppressive
tactics, which I think actually

1908
01:53:38,399 --> 01:53:41,279
goes further than is necessary.
But I believe that it strikes

1909
01:53:41,279 --> 01:53:44,159
the right balance to ensure
continued publication and also

1910
01:53:44,159 --> 01:53:47,309
to make sure that people are not
harmed and that legitimate good

1911
01:53:47,309 --> 01:53:51,599
things, however rare they may
be. They are also not harmed Who

1912
01:53:51,599 --> 01:53:57,689
talks like that. An agent. I'm

1913
01:53:57,719 --> 01:53:59,699
he sounds like an insult. Yeah,
right. Now, you

1914
01:53:59,700 --> 01:54:03,990
may know what is our one of our
main, one of our main theories

1915
01:54:04,020 --> 01:54:07,800
about the NSA is is really about
espionage. And it's about

1916
01:54:07,830 --> 01:54:10,980
corporate espionage and
blackmail, and blackmail. But

1917
01:54:10,980 --> 01:54:15,120
yeah, but that's a part of the
espionage. And he talked a lot

1918
01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:18,720
about this particular
technology, which collaborative

1919
01:54:18,780 --> 01:54:22,800
collaboratively is called cue
fire. And it just and when I

1920
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:25,800
heard this, I'm like, oh, okay,
that makes total sense. In our

1921
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:26,220
theory,

1922
01:54:26,220 --> 01:54:30,930
fire is essentially a way to
programmatically look at things

1923
01:54:30,930 --> 01:54:34,320
that flow across the internet
that they see with turmoil. And

1924
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:36,930
then using turbine they're able
to actually inject packets to

1925
01:54:36,930 --> 01:54:40,380
try to do attacks. Interesting
thing about cue fire also, is

1926
01:54:40,380 --> 01:54:43,530
that they have a thing that it's
called a diode. Cue fire has

1927
01:54:43,530 --> 01:54:45,960
this really neat little detail,
which is that they compromised

1928
01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:48,390
other people's routers and then
redirect through them so that

1929
01:54:48,390 --> 01:54:49,560
they can beat the speed of
light.

1930
01:54:49,710 --> 01:54:54,120
Oh, where did I hear that
before? Beating the speed of

1931
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:59,670
light. Do you recall the Federal
Reserve meeting notes were

1932
01:54:59,670 --> 01:55:02,850
leaked? To end beat the speed of
light not more than six, seven

1933
01:55:02,850 --> 01:55:03,510
weeks ago.

1934
01:55:04,590 --> 01:55:07,560
Well, this has happened a number
of times this is the front

1935
01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:11,760
loading kind of where was the
announcement supposed to happen

1936
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:16,410
to two o'clock? Exactly. And
somehow through some mystery

1937
01:55:16,410 --> 01:55:21,090
mechanism, I guess this is it.
The message gets to some a few

1938
01:55:21,090 --> 01:55:22,470
insiders at

1939
01:55:23,490 --> 01:55:24,540
before the speed of light.

1940
01:55:26,130 --> 01:55:28,410
Before the speed of light would
have made it. Yeah.

1941
01:55:28,710 --> 01:55:32,670
So thank you. Now, and he goes
into a lot of detail about that,

1942
01:55:33,210 --> 01:55:35,400
that you go watch the whole
thing if you want to learn and

1943
01:55:35,400 --> 01:55:39,150
actually he's pretty bad at
explaining it. But I'm like,

1944
01:55:39,150 --> 01:55:41,460
okay, yeah, that makes sense.
Sure. These guys use that to

1945
01:55:41,460 --> 01:55:46,080
cheat. They use a diode. Yeah,
the apparently that diode. And

1946
01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:49,860
then I was so surprised. We
don't have to worry about a

1947
01:55:49,860 --> 01:55:53,730
thing, John, the NSA is not
looking for you. They're not

1948
01:55:53,730 --> 01:55:54,960
looking for me.

1949
01:55:54,990 --> 01:55:57,540
And as far as I can tell, it's
being used for at scale

1950
01:55:57,540 --> 01:56:02,040
exploitation, which is not
really, in my mind a targeted

1951
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:06,000
particularised type of thing.
But rather its fishing

1952
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:08,610
operations, its fishing
expeditions. It's more like

1953
01:56:08,610 --> 01:56:12,600
fishing crusades, if you will.
And in some cases, looking at

1954
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:15,810
the evidence, that seems to be
what it is targeting Muslims, I

1955
01:56:15,810 --> 01:56:18,240
might add, oh, because that's
what they're interested in

1956
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:18,540
doing.

1957
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:23,550
Oh, okay. This is that's news.
They're only targeting Muslims,

1958
01:56:23,550 --> 01:56:28,020
apparently. Where did this show
up in the documentation? I don't

1959
01:56:28,020 --> 01:56:31,800
know. I never heard this. No.
Now let's go back and catch him

1960
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:37,320
in a huge lie. And he starts to
ramp up. His hand is holding the

1961
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:41,490
hand above the heads of the US
fascist companies who are

1962
01:56:41,490 --> 01:56:45,330
complicit with the government
and are giving your information

1963
01:56:45,450 --> 01:56:48,750
to the government just for
money. As far away is eight

1964
01:56:48,750 --> 01:56:52,350
miles. This is about the packet
injection that can be done as

1965
01:56:52,350 --> 01:56:55,290
far away from eight miles. And
just to make sure you're scared,

1966
01:56:55,410 --> 01:56:57,900
he's going to lie about
something he has no proof for,

1967
01:56:58,049 --> 01:57:01,649
to inject packets. So presumably
using this, they're able to

1968
01:57:01,649 --> 01:57:04,919
exploit a kernel vulnerability
of some kind parsing the

1969
01:57:04,919 --> 01:57:08,639
wireless frames. And yeah, I've
heard that they actually put

1970
01:57:08,639 --> 01:57:12,509
this hardware from sources
inside of the NSA and inside of

1971
01:57:12,509 --> 01:57:17,279
other intelligence agencies,
that they actually put this type

1972
01:57:17,279 --> 01:57:20,159
of hardware on drones so that
they fly them over areas that

1973
01:57:20,159 --> 01:57:23,369
they're interested in, and they
do mass exploitation of people.

1974
01:57:23,969 --> 01:57:24,899
Now, we don't have a

1975
01:57:25,589 --> 01:57:28,199
No wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
you're killing the punch line.

1976
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:33,690
Back it up. Now, we don't have a
document that substantiates that

1977
01:57:33,690 --> 01:57:36,480
part. But we do have this
document that actually claims

1978
01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:38,340
that they've done it for up to
eight miles away.

1979
01:57:38,370 --> 01:57:45,180
So he has a product sheet. That
that is a device that up to

1980
01:57:45,180 --> 01:57:52,080
eight miles away can inject
packets through wireless data

1981
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:56,820
frames. And he makes up by
saying I know from people inside

1982
01:57:56,820 --> 01:58:00,930
the intelligence agency, they
put this in drones and fly over

1983
01:58:01,020 --> 01:58:05,280
and compromise everybody in one
fell swoop. I can't prove that

1984
01:58:05,310 --> 01:58:10,290
but I've heard about it. Come on
Apple bomb. Now all he has is

1985
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:14,430
that this thing will do eight
miles. Okay, great. Fabulous.

1986
01:58:14,460 --> 01:58:18,120
Again, bull trap it but it also
doesn't matter. You know, this

1987
01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:21,600
is don't have enough people in
the world to deal with all this.

1988
01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:24,360
This is not where the true
intelligence gathering is taking

1989
01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:27,000
place. Let's listen to him talk
about the company's here's the

1990
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:27,480
ramp up.

1991
01:58:27,870 --> 01:58:31,110
So that's a really interesting
thing, because it tells us that

1992
01:58:31,110 --> 01:58:34,620
they understand that common
wireless cards, probably running

1993
01:58:34,620 --> 01:58:38,100
Microsoft Windows, which is an
American company that they know

1994
01:58:38,100 --> 01:58:40,470
about vulnerabilities and they
keep them the secret to use

1995
01:58:40,470 --> 01:58:40,710
them.

1996
01:58:40,769 --> 01:58:43,709
Now, this is not a throwaway
line, this this this American

1997
01:58:43,709 --> 01:58:46,649
company thing this is becomes
this common theme. This is

1998
01:58:46,650 --> 01:58:49,530
part of a constant theme of
sabotaging and undermining

1999
01:58:49,530 --> 01:58:53,130
American companies and American
ingenuity, boo.

2000
01:58:55,230 --> 01:58:58,320
But they're undermining American
companies and American

2001
01:58:58,320 --> 01:58:59,670
ingenuity.

2002
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:02,940
Oh, the opposite of what's going
exactly. Oh,

2003
01:59:02,969 --> 01:59:05,849
but wait, it's time for some
credibility. Wanna make

2004
01:59:05,940 --> 01:59:10,920
a couple points clear? This
wasn't clear. Even though it was

2005
01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:14,190
written in The New York Times by
my dear friend Laura portress,

2006
01:59:14,490 --> 01:59:20,670
who is totally fantastic, by the
way, and but your brain yours?

2007
01:59:21,060 --> 01:59:22,410
Oh, yes. You're great.

2008
01:59:22,950 --> 01:59:28,260
You're great. You're priceless.
My dear friend. You're great.

2009
01:59:28,530 --> 01:59:34,590
Hey, thanks for killing those
soldiers. Now this company thing

2010
01:59:34,740 --> 01:59:37,260
this is so I'm glad you're
picking up on her son. So

2011
01:59:37,260 --> 01:59:40,230
Emperor Alexander, the head of
the NSA really has a lot of

2012
01:59:40,230 --> 01:59:43,650
power. If they want to right
now. They will know that the

2013
01:59:43,650 --> 01:59:46,410
IMEI of this phone is
interesting. It's very warm,

2014
01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:47,610
which is another funny thing.

2015
01:59:47,970 --> 01:59:51,630
So he pulls out an iPhone and
it's like, oh, yeah, they can

2016
01:59:51,630 --> 01:59:54,510
hack it right now. It's warm.
Oh, yeah. They must be rooting

2017
01:59:54,510 --> 01:59:56,640
around in it as we speak. That's
obvious.

2018
01:59:57,630 --> 02:00:01,440
And we'll be able to break into
this Almost certainly and then

2019
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:05,790
turn on the microphone, and all
without to court. So that, to me

2020
02:00:05,790 --> 02:00:09,780
is really scary. Especially just
like the fact that if you were

2021
02:00:09,780 --> 02:00:12,540
to be building these types of
things, they treat you as an

2022
02:00:12,540 --> 02:00:15,240
opponent, if you wish to be able
to fulfil the promises that you

2023
02:00:15,240 --> 02:00:16,080
make to your customers.

2024
02:00:16,110 --> 02:00:18,690
Now listen to what he's saying,
if you want to build these

2025
02:00:18,690 --> 02:00:21,960
things like Apple builds iPhones
or like he brings it back to him

2026
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:27,180
a lot, I build Free Software, I
build free software, and I don't

2027
02:00:27,180 --> 02:00:29,850
want to give up they are against
me.

2028
02:00:29,999 --> 02:00:32,339
And as someone who writes
security software, I think

2029
02:00:32,339 --> 02:00:33,029
that's bullshit.

2030
02:00:33,419 --> 02:00:38,069
Bullshit. Now taking money from
Google and Pierre Omidyar and

2031
02:00:38,069 --> 02:00:41,789
the NEA, the National, the
recent Naval Research Laboratory

2032
02:00:41,789 --> 02:00:45,059
in the State Department. That's
bullshit Apple bomb. So

2033
02:00:45,060 --> 02:00:48,300
if the NSA wanted to tomorrow,
they could kill every anonymity

2034
02:00:48,300 --> 02:00:51,540
system that exists, of course,
by just forcing everyone who

2035
02:00:51,540 --> 02:00:55,500
connects to an anonymity system
to reset. That's the same way

2036
02:00:55,500 --> 02:00:58,710
that the Chinese do scary right
now in China with the Great

2037
02:00:58,710 --> 02:01:01,530
Firewall of China. Oh, so that's
like the NSA builds the

2038
02:01:01,530 --> 02:01:03,360
equivalent of the Great Firewall
of Earth?

2039
02:01:03,389 --> 02:01:06,209
Oh, yes. The firewall. That's
scary.

2040
02:01:07,260 --> 02:01:10,530
That's, to me, that's a really
scary, heavy handed thing to

2041
02:01:10,530 --> 02:01:20,250
carry. And I'm sure they only
use it for good. Oh, yeah, back

2042
02:01:20,250 --> 02:01:23,670
here in reality, that, to me is
a really scary thing, especially

2043
02:01:23,670 --> 02:01:26,910
because one of the ways that
they are able to use the word

2044
02:01:26,910 --> 02:01:27,930
scary throughout

2045
02:01:27,930 --> 02:01:31,020
the whole speech. That's why I
took that clip, specifically,

2046
02:01:31,020 --> 02:01:35,430
and here comes Scary, scary,
scary. So here comes the dumbest

2047
02:01:35,790 --> 02:01:42,000
of all gay jokes I have in fact,
it is a gay death joke really?

2048
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:47,190
Which makes it so unfunny. And
this is where I'm like, why are

2049
02:01:47,190 --> 02:01:50,310
you why are you doing this? And
you could the audience is

2050
02:01:50,310 --> 02:01:53,250
uncomfortable. I don't think
anyone got the joke. They're

2051
02:01:53,250 --> 02:01:54,240
just like, whoa.

2052
02:01:54,270 --> 02:01:57,360
So there was a joke. You know,
when you download mp3 as you

2053
02:01:57,360 --> 02:01:59,040
ride with communism from the 90s

2054
02:01:59,250 --> 02:02:03,420
Do you remember this great joke.
When you download mp3? You ride

2055
02:02:03,420 --> 02:02:06,630
with communism? Who made that
joke? I don't remember this

2056
02:02:06,630 --> 02:02:09,750
joke. I don't remember that joke
at all. But he's gonna use this

2057
02:02:09,750 --> 02:02:11,940
joke to take it into an even
worse job. So

2058
02:02:12,300 --> 02:02:14,760
there was a joke you know, when
you download mp3 as you ride

2059
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:19,080
with communism from the 90s Some
of you may remember this. When

2060
02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:21,360
you bear back with the internet,
you ride with the NSA.

2061
02:02:22,019 --> 02:02:26,219
When you bear back on the
internet, you ride with the NSA.

2062
02:02:26,879 --> 02:02:30,929
A bareback of course is a sexual
term for not using any

2063
02:02:30,929 --> 02:02:33,929
protection usually used in gay
porn.

2064
02:02:34,320 --> 02:02:44,970
Yeah, it's a gay term funny
funny going for

2065
02:02:45,390 --> 02:02:48,030
Yeah, I'm gonna get AIDS from
the NSA that what you're saying

2066
02:02:48,030 --> 02:02:51,420
what are you trying to say
Applebaum as a as a

2067
02:02:51,690 --> 02:02:53,850
play it again so we can get
because he had a little punch

2068
02:02:53,850 --> 02:02:56,130
line at the end he tried to make
up for this lad does

2069
02:02:56,130 --> 02:02:59,160
so there was a joke. You know,
when you download mp3 as you

2070
02:02:59,160 --> 02:03:01,680
ride with communism from the
90s. Some of you may remember

2071
02:03:01,680 --> 02:03:05,970
this. When you bareback with the
internet, you ride with the NSA.

2072
02:03:13,050 --> 02:03:15,480
Or you're getting a ride, going
for a ride

2073
02:03:17,550 --> 02:03:21,780
and stick to your lies and stop
with the stick. Okay, now he's

2074
02:03:21,780 --> 02:03:22,110
off

2075
02:03:22,110 --> 02:03:24,810
track, clearing his throat so
much when

2076
02:03:24,810 --> 02:03:28,050
you're lying. And you're nervous
about lying, and you're up on

2077
02:03:28,050 --> 02:03:32,700
stage. And you're shilling to
protect the very companies that

2078
02:03:32,700 --> 02:03:37,410
have given you money. The very
people have given you money ie

2079
02:03:37,410 --> 02:03:42,840
the State Department, Google,
Pierre Omidyar. These vary, and

2080
02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:47,790
by the way, if you look for the
enzyme grants from 2006, you

2081
02:03:47,790 --> 02:03:50,730
Google it, you can go you can
look through all the Omidyar

2082
02:03:50,730 --> 02:03:54,300
Network, they do not even record
there's not a single mention of

2083
02:03:54,300 --> 02:03:59,400
this award of the enzyme grant.
There's not a single mention of

2084
02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:02,970
the Tor project, but it's all
over you see all over his

2085
02:04:02,970 --> 02:04:07,260
materials. And what how does
that happen that they just

2086
02:04:07,290 --> 02:04:10,410
denounced renounce their award,
they don't talk about it

2087
02:04:10,410 --> 02:04:14,280
anymore. I wouldn't nonprofit
removes an award from their

2088
02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:17,910
website never happened. So I
don't think it ever I don't

2089
02:04:17,910 --> 02:04:20,670
think it happened that way. It
doesn't matter. There's more

2090
02:04:20,670 --> 02:04:22,410
nuttiness, he's off the rails
Fox

2091
02:04:22,410 --> 02:04:25,290
acid is essentially like a
watering hole type of attack

2092
02:04:25,290 --> 02:04:30,180
where you go to you go to URL,
quantum insert, puts like an

2093
02:04:30,180 --> 02:04:33,900
iframe or put some code on your,
in your web browser, which you

2094
02:04:33,900 --> 02:04:36,750
then execute, which then causes
you to load resources. One of

2095
02:04:36,750 --> 02:04:39,270
the resources that you load
while you're loading cnn.com,

2096
02:04:39,270 --> 02:04:43,170
for example, which is one of
their examples. They like that,

2097
02:04:43,170 --> 02:04:48,030
by the way. So you know, that's
a extremists site. So you might

2098
02:04:48,030 --> 02:04:50,790
have heard about that. That's a
lot of Republicans in the United

2099
02:04:50,790 --> 02:04:55,350
States read it. So right before
they wage, illegal imperialist

2100
02:04:55,350 --> 02:04:55,920
wars, so

2101
02:04:56,219 --> 02:05:00,809
Okay, so you go to cnn.com. You
might have heard of this site.

2102
02:05:00,839 --> 02:05:05,669
It is a it is a what do you say
terrorist site or whatever? A

2103
02:05:05,669 --> 02:05:09,899
lot of Republicans read it
before they wage imperialistic

2104
02:05:09,929 --> 02:05:16,769
illegal wars? Is the Is this the
kind of information that people

2105
02:05:16,769 --> 02:05:20,009
accept in these intelligent
computer hacking circles?

2106
02:05:20,849 --> 02:05:27,209
Republicans read CNN before they
wage illegal wars. The point is

2107
02:05:27,209 --> 02:05:28,739
that, why imperialistic

2108
02:05:28,740 --> 02:05:29,190
wars?

2109
02:05:30,179 --> 02:05:32,639
Let's hear it again. Versus the
you load while you're loading

2110
02:05:32,639 --> 02:05:37,259
cnn.com, for example, which is
one of their examples. They like

2111
02:05:37,259 --> 02:05:42,089
that, by the way. So you know,
that's a extremists site. So you

2112
02:05:42,089 --> 02:05:44,789
might have heard about that.
It's a lot of Republicans in the

2113
02:05:44,789 --> 02:05:49,079
United States read it. So right
before they wage, illegal,

2114
02:05:49,079 --> 02:05:52,979
imperialist wars. So the point
is that you go to a fox acid

2115
02:05:52,979 --> 02:05:56,309
server, and it basically does a
survey of your box.

2116
02:05:56,580 --> 02:06:03,150
You know, that's what is his
agenda? I'm sorry. Only

2117
02:06:03,150 --> 02:06:10,350
Republicans read CNN. Before
they waged imperialistic wars. I

2118
02:06:10,350 --> 02:06:13,020
don't know, man, your Democratic
president is the one pulling the

2119
02:06:13,020 --> 02:06:16,350
trigger. I'm gonna speed up a
little bit. Let's just talk

2120
02:06:16,350 --> 02:06:16,530
about

2121
02:06:16,530 --> 02:06:20,490
houses like this guy. Yeah,
yeah. This is a good, this is

2122
02:06:20,490 --> 02:06:24,330
not. This is pretty
straightforward stuff. That

2123
02:06:24,330 --> 02:06:27,270
mean, this guy is just I don't
know why, why he's become such a

2124
02:06:27,300 --> 02:06:29,520
such a cause celeb Oh,

2125
02:06:29,550 --> 02:06:30,780
but don't you see? And what's

2126
02:06:30,780 --> 02:06:33,600
he living in? What's the Berlin
thing going on? And what is the

2127
02:06:33,600 --> 02:06:35,100
Berlin angle here?

2128
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:42,270
Be? Well, I would subject that
Poydras. And Appelbaum, our

2129
02:06:42,270 --> 02:06:48,690
agents for the Germans. Berlin
has a huge, yes. Like, hey,

2130
02:06:48,690 --> 02:06:52,050
yeah, no, no, but the Berlin has
a huge base for the German

2131
02:06:52,050 --> 02:06:52,890
intelligence,

2132
02:06:52,920 --> 02:06:56,340
right? It's a new building. And
then somebody mentioned they

2133
02:06:56,340 --> 02:06:59,730
were actually their apartment or
wherever they're staying is

2134
02:06:59,730 --> 02:07:02,370
nearby. Yes, you could walk to
work

2135
02:07:02,430 --> 02:07:08,820
this. Yeah. So this, this this?
Why doesn't anyone even suggest

2136
02:07:08,820 --> 02:07:11,700
that I'll be limited? Let it be
me. I think these people are

2137
02:07:11,700 --> 02:07:14,910
agents for the Germans. Why else
all of a sudden, is it so

2138
02:07:14,910 --> 02:07:18,090
important that Angular Merkel
has been spied on? Because

2139
02:07:18,090 --> 02:07:22,050
that's, that's their boss, as
far as I'm concerned. And you

2140
02:07:22,050 --> 02:07:24,480
know, the Germans are very
angry. They're not in the five

2141
02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:31,200
eyes. Now, so this is this is
not all that hard to comprehend.

2142
02:07:31,500 --> 02:07:34,860
But because he goes into this
detail with a couple of RIT,

2143
02:07:34,860 --> 02:07:38,910
literally just a couple of boxes
on a PowerPoint slide and says,

2144
02:07:38,970 --> 02:07:44,280
This is what it is. And yeah.
Are they real NSA documents? And

2145
02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:47,850
they look authentic? Does it?
Does it show me code? Does it

2146
02:07:47,850 --> 02:07:51,870
show it working in the field? Do
you have any proof of the drones

2147
02:07:51,870 --> 02:07:55,560
flying over and compromising
everyone's wireless networking

2148
02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:56,280
frames? Can

2149
02:07:56,280 --> 02:07:59,850
you imagine the scrambled
spaghetti you'd get if you're at

2150
02:08:00,390 --> 02:08:04,020
40,000 feet, which is eight
miles, and you were trying to

2151
02:08:04,020 --> 02:08:06,930
pick up the all the Wi Fi
signals, which you can't detect

2152
02:08:06,930 --> 02:08:10,290
at that distance? I don't care
what you say, No, that's not I

2153
02:08:10,290 --> 02:08:13,530
just don't want that I have to
travel that, John.

2154
02:08:13,560 --> 02:08:17,220
No, that's not true. As you
know, on 911 people were able to

2155
02:08:17,220 --> 02:08:20,580
call from their cell phones. So
this, you know that that is

2156
02:08:20,580 --> 02:08:23,580
absolutely technically
technically possible. But this

2157
02:08:23,580 --> 02:08:26,640
is the problem, because people
get the the people in this

2158
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:31,470
audience are being this is a
psychological operation of epic

2159
02:08:31,470 --> 02:08:35,640
proportions. And these people
who are very intelligent are not

2160
02:08:35,640 --> 02:08:40,140
thinking straight. Yeah, I'm
against the government, at this

2161
02:08:40,770 --> 02:08:45,840
95% of this show is based on
that. But when you're being

2162
02:08:45,870 --> 02:08:51,480
duped by an obvious, but clearly
the guy has been paid by this,

2163
02:08:51,480 --> 02:08:54,630
he's not even ashamed of saying
it. He's been paid by the State

2164
02:08:54,630 --> 02:08:57,960
Department. He's been paid by
Google. He's been paid by all

2165
02:08:57,960 --> 02:09:00,390
these people. He's lying to you.

2166
02:09:00,420 --> 02:09:04,230
Now. Another interesting point
is that for the Yahoo packet to

2167
02:09:04,230 --> 02:09:08,610
be beaten, the NSA must
impersonate Yahoo. This is a

2168
02:09:08,610 --> 02:09:11,160
really important detail, because
what it tells us is that they

2169
02:09:11,160 --> 02:09:11,520
are

2170
02:09:11,610 --> 02:09:16,770
this, by the way sounds exactly
like stuff that ISPs do. And

2171
02:09:16,770 --> 02:09:20,940
that British Telecom was setting
up that to provide you with

2172
02:09:20,940 --> 02:09:24,240
different advertising. It's like
deep packet inspection. And I

2173
02:09:24,240 --> 02:09:27,180
think that's what this
technology essentially is, is to

2174
02:09:27,180 --> 02:09:30,270
beat the packets from the
advertiser to inject different

2175
02:09:30,270 --> 02:09:33,120
advertising. Yeah, no, this is a
very common practice. Yeah, but

2176
02:09:33,120 --> 02:09:37,350
he's making it sound like you're
going to Yahoo to get I don't

2177
02:09:37,350 --> 02:09:42,630
know, some news. And they're
changing the information and

2178
02:09:42,630 --> 02:09:46,980
sending it back to you with
different information. Like what

2179
02:09:46,980 --> 02:09:50,640
is the point? What is it what to
show me the

2180
02:09:50,670 --> 02:09:54,690
duck directory? It giving you
different stories? Yeah, the

2181
02:09:54,840 --> 02:09:59,310
Duck Duck Dynasty is not true.
The guy does he loves gays.

2182
02:09:59,310 --> 02:09:59,970
Isn't that true?

2183
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:04,770
essentially conscripting Yahoo
and saying that they are Yahoo.

2184
02:10:04,770 --> 02:10:09,390
So they are impersonating a US
company, to a US company user.

2185
02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:12,720
And they are not actually
supposed to be in this

2186
02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:13,650
conversation at all and

2187
02:10:13,890 --> 02:10:17,880
another US company Oh, and they
do it, then they of course,

2188
02:10:18,450 --> 02:10:20,700
basically, if you're using
Yahoo, you're definitely going

2189
02:10:20,700 --> 02:10:23,010
to get on so. And I don't just
mean

2190
02:10:23,040 --> 02:10:27,720
oh, well, maybe if Yahoo had, I
don't know granted some money to

2191
02:10:27,720 --> 02:10:30,750
your Tor Project. Maybe you
wouldn't be fucking with them

2192
02:10:30,750 --> 02:10:36,000
like this. Why single out Yahoo.
If you're using Yahoo, you're

2193
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:38,070
gonna get own because you're an
idiot. And

2194
02:10:38,070 --> 02:10:40,260
that and that Yahoo is
vulnerable. They are. But I

2195
02:10:40,260 --> 02:10:43,830
mean, people that use Yahoo tend
to maybe it's a bad

2196
02:10:43,830 --> 02:10:46,650
generalisation. But you know,
they're not the most security

2197
02:10:46,650 --> 02:10:47,610
conscious people know,

2198
02:10:48,210 --> 02:10:53,460
you're a dick. You're stupid.
Use Yahoo user you because they

2199
02:10:53,460 --> 02:10:56,010
didn't spend any money on me
like Google did

2200
02:10:56,070 --> 02:10:58,500
that I think you're dead on on
this. There's this this sounds

2201
02:10:58,500 --> 02:11:02,430
like, you know, this is like a
Jesse Jackson tactic. Oh, are

2202
02:11:02,430 --> 02:11:05,610
you supporting this operation?
Are you supporting the

2203
02:11:05,850 --> 02:11:09,900
tour? The tour? The Rainbow
Coalition? Exactly. Yeah, well,

2204
02:11:09,900 --> 02:11:12,630
you're not supporting as well,
you know, we got to take a look

2205
02:11:12,630 --> 02:11:14,070
your minority hiring.

2206
02:11:14,190 --> 02:11:16,530
Alright, so let's get to the
crux of what he's really trying

2207
02:11:16,530 --> 02:11:19,440
to do, which is protect the
companies, mainly the ones that

2208
02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:22,800
have paid him in the past, from
any persecution. This is the

2209
02:11:22,800 --> 02:11:25,440
same thing that we were talked
about the other day on some tech

2210
02:11:25,440 --> 02:11:28,830
shows, where they're saying, all
the tech companies are they're

2211
02:11:28,830 --> 02:11:32,340
outraged. They're so mad,
because they're getting blamed.

2212
02:11:32,460 --> 02:11:35,310
And they went to the President
and said, President, we're not

2213
02:11:35,310 --> 02:11:38,520
having this anymore. Stop. We
don't want we're not doing

2214
02:11:38,520 --> 02:11:43,200
anything bad. An apple bomb has
been paid.

2215
02:11:43,230 --> 02:11:45,780
Now we're gonna name a bunch of
companies because fuck those

2216
02:11:45,780 --> 02:11:48,780
guys basically, for
collaborating when they do and

2217
02:11:48,780 --> 02:11:50,850
fuck them for leaving us
vulnerable when they do.

2218
02:11:50,910 --> 02:11:54,060
Oh, let's name some names. Fuck
those guys. Oh, let's see who

2219
02:11:54,060 --> 02:11:58,140
we're gonna say. Fuck you apple.
Fuck you Google. Fuck you Yahoo.

2220
02:11:58,830 --> 02:12:03,420
What else? Linked in Twitter,
Skype, Microsoft, all of that.

2221
02:12:03,420 --> 02:12:09,210
Yeah, no, no, oh, gee, no. Yeah.
Fuck those guys. I'm gonna name

2222
02:12:09,210 --> 02:12:10,680
names bad. I'm

2223
02:12:10,680 --> 02:12:13,590
the most loving way. victims,
actually,

2224
02:12:14,310 --> 02:12:17,700
some of them are victims, John
may be the ones that paid him

2225
02:12:17,730 --> 02:12:20,820
important to note that we don't
yet understand, which is which.

2226
02:12:20,970 --> 02:12:23,400
So it's important to name them
so that they have to go on

2227
02:12:23,400 --> 02:12:26,640
record, so that they can stay
where they are, and so that they

2228
02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:28,830
can give us enough rope to hang
themselves.

2229
02:12:29,490 --> 02:12:34,080
So what did he say? I love this
term where he messes this one up

2230
02:12:34,260 --> 02:12:34,920
on record,

2231
02:12:35,250 --> 02:12:38,220
so that they can stay where they
are, and so that they can give

2232
02:12:38,220 --> 02:12:39,810
us enough rope to hang
themselves.

2233
02:12:39,840 --> 02:12:44,190
They can give us enough rope to
hang themselves. Yeah, they've

2234
02:12:44,190 --> 02:12:46,470
got it backwards, because he's
lying that he's got it

2235
02:12:46,470 --> 02:12:47,130
backwards.

2236
02:12:47,700 --> 02:12:50,010
I really want that to happen,
because I think it's important

2237
02:12:50,010 --> 02:12:52,410
to find out who collaborated and
who didn't collaborate.

2238
02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:54,750
Okay, so this is this now we're
getting down to it, who

2239
02:12:54,750 --> 02:12:58,890
collaborated? And who didn't
collaborate, this collaborator?

2240
02:12:58,890 --> 02:13:01,170
That's right. And if you're a
collaborator, we're gonna shave

2241
02:13:01,170 --> 02:13:03,090
all your hair off. And by the
way, he's

2242
02:13:03,660 --> 02:13:06,990
given the speech. He's what,
where's he giving a speech in

2243
02:13:06,990 --> 02:13:10,740
Berlin? That collaborator is a
term that's not really

2244
02:13:10,740 --> 02:13:14,190
recognised too much by
Americans. But it's a very nasty

2245
02:13:14,190 --> 02:13:19,710
term for France, and Germany, in
particular, because it's where

2246
02:13:19,710 --> 02:13:21,810
the East Berlin or the East
Germans are they were

2247
02:13:21,810 --> 02:13:24,960
collaborating with it was the
governor, the evil government.

2248
02:13:25,350 --> 02:13:28,740
And this is a this is a charged
word he didn't you use it for a

2249
02:13:28,740 --> 02:13:29,250
reason.

2250
02:13:30,900 --> 02:13:35,040
Yes. And it was very
interesting. I'm watching the

2251
02:13:35,040 --> 02:13:38,820
chat room out of the corner of
my eye. And the chat room is not

2252
02:13:38,820 --> 02:13:43,290
understanding what we're doing.
Because I think a lot of people

2253
02:13:43,290 --> 02:13:47,010
who are in IRC chat rooms
command line, really want to

2254
02:13:47,010 --> 02:13:51,780
believe what this guy is
selling. And I'm willing to put

2255
02:13:51,780 --> 02:13:54,750
my ass on the line and to be
burned, which is what we'll get.

2256
02:13:54,750 --> 02:13:59,850
We'll get a lot of emails, I'm
sure I don't carry it. But one

2257
02:13:59,850 --> 02:14:02,970
day, some of you will thank me.
Now

2258
02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:07,290
so this is again, the chatroom
goes back into his normal sour

2259
02:14:07,290 --> 02:14:11,580
quality state. Yeah, it's like
milk you know, once it goes bad.

2260
02:14:11,700 --> 02:14:14,670
So we so we have this. Now here.
Here's one of the big things and

2261
02:14:14,670 --> 02:14:21,240
if you google this, if it's it's
all over the web, the NSA can

2262
02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:26,640
has complete access to any
iPhone can get into the iPhone

2263
02:14:26,670 --> 02:14:31,560
can turn on the microphone can
take your contacts, your text

2264
02:14:31,560 --> 02:14:35,250
messages at any given moment,
and he has a slide which he

2265
02:14:35,250 --> 02:14:40,560
published on bear Spiegel with
four boxes, and some ludicrous

2266
02:14:40,560 --> 02:14:45,780
name like blow up Jeep,
something Euro Jeep, whatever,

2267
02:14:45,810 --> 02:14:52,230
four boxes, no code, no working
examples, but a slide that says

2268
02:14:52,230 --> 02:14:58,500
we can own any iPhone now. We
know that the first slide that

2269
02:14:58,500 --> 02:15:02,040
came out ever was About prism.
And I think this was the

2270
02:15:02,040 --> 02:15:06,540
mistake. I think this is where
that's somehow it didn't

2271
02:15:06,540 --> 02:15:10,320
something went wrong. And that
slide was never supposed to make

2272
02:15:10,320 --> 02:15:15,240
it out. Because it's it showed
all the companies that are this

2273
02:15:15,240 --> 02:15:18,210
is this is what he is now
covering up in his speeches. And

2274
02:15:18,240 --> 02:15:21,840
this has been this they've done
everything they can to. And that

2275
02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:24,690
that phoney meeting with the
President was part of the scheme

2276
02:15:24,960 --> 02:15:26,940
to Cisco is there by

2277
02:15:26,940 --> 02:15:30,630
the way, yeah, Cisco wasn't at
the meeting, or HP wasn't at the

2278
02:15:30,630 --> 02:15:35,520
meeting. Now. So we have Tim
Cook, Tim Collins, Tom, Tom,

2279
02:15:35,520 --> 02:15:41,220
whatever his name is. Tim Cook.
We know that. Only a few months

2280
02:15:41,220 --> 02:15:45,600
after Steve Jobs died. According
to that slide. Apple joined the

2281
02:15:45,600 --> 02:15:49,500
prism programme. And I'm pretty
convinced that Glenn Greenwald

2282
02:15:49,710 --> 02:15:55,830
was chosen specifically for this
push for this scam of

2283
02:15:55,860 --> 02:16:02,100
discrediting a whole bunch of
agents and and covering up what

2284
02:16:02,100 --> 02:16:06,690
the CIA really does. And
Greenwald ran with it. This was

2285
02:16:06,690 --> 02:16:10,200
a mistake, this first slide
because now because now we have

2286
02:16:10,200 --> 02:16:13,560
to run interference and get
everyone back on track and focus

2287
02:16:13,560 --> 02:16:19,920
on hacking from drones. And you
know, love that hacking from you

2288
02:16:19,920 --> 02:16:23,040
know, cable connectors and all
kinds of stuff. And I'm going to

2289
02:16:23,040 --> 02:16:26,400
show the ludicrousness of this.
And just as I wind this up in

2290
02:16:26,400 --> 02:16:27,180
just a minute, can I

2291
02:16:27,180 --> 02:16:29,190
ask a simple question here,
since you've done all the

2292
02:16:29,190 --> 02:16:32,700
research, was apple on the list
of donors?

2293
02:16:33,209 --> 02:16:37,199
You know, Apple was not on the
list of donors. But now I want

2294
02:16:37,199 --> 02:16:42,419
you to listen to his version of
the Apple iPhone hacking. So are

2295
02:16:42,419 --> 02:16:46,769
my version is Yes, I saw the
first slide. I think that is

2296
02:16:46,769 --> 02:16:51,419
probably true. And Steve Jobs
probably died a superhero he

2297
02:16:51,419 --> 02:16:55,049
probably he probably got killed.
I never know I don't know any

2298
02:16:55,049 --> 02:16:58,109
elites who die of cancer. Now
this guy has to die of cancer.

2299
02:16:58,109 --> 02:17:03,059
Why that guy? And he dies of
cancer, shitty as cancer. And

2300
02:17:03,089 --> 02:17:06,869
three months later, they're on
the list. I think they waited

2301
02:17:06,869 --> 02:17:11,039
for him to die. Tim Cook
Collins, by the way, gay I hate

2302
02:17:11,039 --> 02:17:14,219
to do this because I'm not anti
gay. But there's a gay thing. I

2303
02:17:14,219 --> 02:17:17,489
hear the comments quite the
opposite. Thank you. But there's

2304
02:17:17,489 --> 02:17:21,449
a common theme here. And all of
a sudden, we have all this

2305
02:17:21,449 --> 02:17:24,629
information at the iPhone can be
compromised. What is Applebaum?

2306
02:17:24,629 --> 02:17:25,199
Say?

2307
02:17:26,160 --> 02:17:32,460
Here's an iPhone backdoor. So,
drop out jeep. So you can see

2308
02:17:32,460 --> 02:17:40,050
right there. So SMS contacts,
list retrieval, voicemail, hot

2309
02:17:40,050 --> 02:17:44,010
microphone, camera capture cell
tower location. Cool. Do you

2310
02:17:44,010 --> 02:17:47,640
think Apple helped them with
that? I don't know. I hope Apple

2311
02:17:47,640 --> 02:17:49,950
will clarify that. I think it's
really important that Apple

2312
02:17:49,980 --> 02:17:53,670
doesn't. Here's a problem. I
don't really believe that Apple

2313
02:17:53,670 --> 02:17:57,000
didn't help them. I can't prove
it yet. But they literally

2314
02:17:57,000 --> 02:17:57,360
claimed.

2315
02:17:57,930 --> 02:18:00,480
Stop, stop, stop. So I would let
him finish. Let him finish.

2316
02:18:00,719 --> 02:18:02,759
You gotta go back because I
think there's something we both

2317
02:18:02,759 --> 02:18:06,359
missed. I have to hear it. Okay.
The he says let me just tell you

2318
02:18:06,359 --> 02:18:10,229
what he said. He said, I would
like to have apple. clarify

2319
02:18:10,259 --> 02:18:11,729
that. I hope it doesn't.

2320
02:18:12,780 --> 02:18:15,390
You know, this whole if you go
all the way up to the end, I'm

2321
02:18:15,390 --> 02:18:18,420
going to play the whole thing
again. And let's try let's

2322
02:18:18,420 --> 02:18:22,590
refrain from making any noise.
Go.

2323
02:18:23,309 --> 02:18:29,609
Here's an iPhone back door. So
drop out jeep. So you can see

2324
02:18:29,609 --> 02:18:37,199
right there. So SMS contact,
list retrieval, voicemail, hot

2325
02:18:37,199 --> 02:18:41,159
microphone camera captures cell
tower location. Cool. Do you

2326
02:18:41,159 --> 02:18:44,909
think Apple help them with that?
I don't know. I hope Apple will

2327
02:18:44,909 --> 02:18:47,549
clarify that I think it's really
important that Apple doesn't.

2328
02:18:47,789 --> 02:18:51,209
Here's a problem. I don't really
believe that Apple didn't help

2329
02:18:51,209 --> 02:18:54,869
them. I can't prove it yet. But
they literally claim that

2330
02:18:54,869 --> 02:18:59,159
anytime they target an iOS
device, that it will succeed for

2331
02:18:59,159 --> 02:19:03,359
implantation. Either they have a
huge collection of exploits that

2332
02:19:03,359 --> 02:19:06,149
work against Apple products,
meaning that they are hoarding

2333
02:19:06,149 --> 02:19:08,789
information about critical
systems that American companies

2334
02:19:08,789 --> 02:19:13,739
produce and sabotaging them. Or
Apple sabotaged it themselves.

2335
02:19:14,789 --> 02:19:17,969
Not sure which one it is. I'd
like to believe that since Apple

2336
02:19:17,969 --> 02:19:20,939
didn't join the prison programme
until after Steve Jobs died,

2337
02:19:21,299 --> 02:19:24,899
that maybe it's just the right
that they read shitty software.

2338
02:19:25,620 --> 02:19:31,290
Wow. So his take on this, by the
way, let's hear it. Let's cue

2339
02:19:31,290 --> 02:19:36,390
the applause. We know that's
true. Ha ha ha. No, Apple

2340
02:19:36,390 --> 02:19:40,590
doesn't write shitty software.
All software is shitty. So his

2341
02:19:40,590 --> 02:19:45,900
take on this is if Apple didn't
do this, they're not complicit.

2342
02:19:46,110 --> 02:19:52,200
Steve Jobs died and they write
shitty software. Wow. That blood

2343
02:19:52,200 --> 02:19:53,280
blows me away.

2344
02:19:54,930 --> 02:19:58,140
Well, how about this? And by the
way, I still think it's telling

2345
02:19:58,140 --> 02:20:01,350
that he says I hope Apple does.
I I agree. I agree. I agree.

2346
02:20:01,380 --> 02:20:08,070
You're good catch. Okay, wait,
wait, wait, how about this, all

2347
02:20:08,070 --> 02:20:11,370
software companies that write
elaborate systems like that, and

2348
02:20:11,370 --> 02:20:14,340
that would put Microsoft on top
of this IBM did the same thing

2349
02:20:14,340 --> 02:20:18,750
with OS do they have a way that
you can remotely control the

2350
02:20:18,780 --> 02:20:22,350
product so you can analyse and
fix it from a distance. So you

2351
02:20:22,350 --> 02:20:24,300
don't have to have people
bringing stuff in and back and

2352
02:20:24,300 --> 02:20:29,430
forth. So you can turn your
machine you call IBM. When the

2353
02:20:29,430 --> 02:20:32,790
days of stupidity with
Microsoft, you say, I can't my

2354
02:20:32,790 --> 02:20:36,270
machines to acting funny. And
you can in some sense

2355
02:20:36,300 --> 02:20:39,720
situations, the guys could say,
Can I would like to take control

2356
02:20:39,720 --> 02:20:43,020
your machine If you'd allow me
to? Yes. And they will

2357
02:20:43,140 --> 02:20:46,650
literally, you have a there's a
back door and they will look at

2358
02:20:46,650 --> 02:20:49,320
all this stuff from from their
perspective. And it's got a lot

2359
02:20:49,320 --> 02:20:50,820
of different things that
wouldn't surprise me in the

2360
02:20:50,820 --> 02:20:53,670
least, if there was a remote
control way to turn on the

2361
02:20:53,670 --> 02:20:56,460
microphone or the camera. Why
wouldn't there be

2362
02:20:58,770 --> 02:21:02,220
Apple bombs mission? Of course,
of course there is Apple bombs

2363
02:21:02,220 --> 02:21:06,060
mission is to protect the very
same companies that are

2364
02:21:06,060 --> 02:21:10,380
fascistic ly involved. That is
the true definition of fascism,

2365
02:21:10,920 --> 02:21:13,770
with the government,
particularly in Culebra

2366
02:21:13,770 --> 02:21:16,800
tutorship with the government
and here's his wrap up.

2367
02:21:16,830 --> 02:21:19,260
Look at that. It's another
American company that they are

2368
02:21:19,290 --> 02:21:21,360
sabotaging they understand that
HPs

2369
02:21:21,630 --> 02:21:25,680
they being the NSA is sabotaging
these American companies, John

2370
02:21:25,770 --> 02:21:27,990
sabotaging them servers

2371
02:21:28,020 --> 02:21:31,920
are vulnerable. And they decided
instead of explaining that this

2372
02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:35,910
is a problem, they exploited an
Iron Chef through interdiction

2373
02:21:35,940 --> 02:21:40,320
is one of the ways that they
will do that. So I want to

2374
02:21:40,350 --> 02:21:43,980
really harp on this. Now, it's
not, I think European companies

2375
02:21:44,010 --> 02:21:47,940
are worth less. I suspect,
especially after this talk, that

2376
02:21:47,940 --> 02:21:51,810
won't be true in the literal
stock sense, but I don't know. I

2377
02:21:51,810 --> 02:21:53,640
think it's really important to
understand that they are

2378
02:21:53,640 --> 02:21:56,280
sabotaging American companies
because of the so called

2379
02:21:56,280 --> 02:21:59,850
homefield advantage. The problem
is that as an American who

2380
02:21:59,850 --> 02:22:03,120
writes software, who wants to
build hardware devices, this

2381
02:22:03,150 --> 02:22:06,240
really chills my expression. And
it also gives me a problem,

2382
02:22:06,240 --> 02:22:08,310
which is that people say, Why
would I use what you're doing?

2383
02:22:09,030 --> 02:22:13,080
You know, what about the NSA?
Man, that really bothers me,

2384
02:22:13,410 --> 02:22:18,600
man, what you're saying really
bothers me. You are protecting

2385
02:22:18,900 --> 02:22:22,290
the very companies that are
complicit in this, the director

2386
02:22:22,290 --> 02:22:25,860
of the FBI walks around the
halls freely at Facebook.

2387
02:22:27,570 --> 02:22:28,920
Where's that mention?

2388
02:22:29,340 --> 02:22:31,830
Well, there's a lot of
dimensions to this. And I want

2389
02:22:31,830 --> 02:22:35,340
to mention another one, which
you touched upon, which is he's

2390
02:22:35,370 --> 02:22:38,070
essentially slamming the
American companies for writing

2391
02:22:38,070 --> 02:22:41,970
bad code and having the NSA all
over it, for whatever reason,

2392
02:22:41,970 --> 02:22:45,090
never really explains it fully.
And they are tapping in on

2393
02:22:45,090 --> 02:22:47,430
everything. So why would you
want to use these products? So

2394
02:22:47,430 --> 02:22:49,440
if you're working for German
intelligence, you want to

2395
02:22:49,440 --> 02:22:53,340
promote non American products by
slamming the American which is

2396
02:22:53,340 --> 02:22:56,610
what he just said, he just this
element seems to be there. Yeah.

2397
02:22:56,640 --> 02:22:59,610
He just when in fact, I think
that our thesis, which is that

2398
02:22:59,610 --> 02:23:04,020
the NSA is really all about
industrial espionage to benefit

2399
02:23:04,020 --> 02:23:05,160
American companies.

2400
02:23:05,520 --> 02:23:11,820
That's the sick part of it. I
know. Wow. All right.

2401
02:23:12,390 --> 02:23:15,030
Let's just finish up with the
last 20 deserve the Huawei

2402
02:23:15,030 --> 02:23:21,120
taint. And the NSA gives it and
President Obama's own advisory

2403
02:23:21,120 --> 02:23:24,240
board that was convened to
understand the scope of these

2404
02:23:24,240 --> 02:23:27,330
things has even agreed with me
about this point, that this

2405
02:23:27,330 --> 02:23:30,750
should not be taking place. That
hoarding of zero day exploits

2406
02:23:31,410 --> 02:23:34,440
cannot simply happen without
thought processes that are

2407
02:23:34,440 --> 02:23:38,970
reasonable and rational and have
an economic and social valuing

2408
02:23:39,180 --> 02:23:42,360
where we really think about the
broad scale impact. I don't know

2409
02:23:42,360 --> 02:23:42,930
what report

2410
02:23:42,930 --> 02:23:47,250
he read, but the report that I
read, which has exactly one

2411
02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:50,580
actual lawyer on it, and the
rest is all intelligence, shills

2412
02:23:51,000 --> 02:23:55,620
said exactly the opposite, that
they most definitely should have

2413
02:23:55,620 --> 02:23:59,220
zero day exploits on hand to use
when appropriate, and they can

2414
02:23:59,220 --> 02:24:01,350
do it without going to the
court. They can have the

2415
02:24:01,350 --> 02:24:04,860
Department of Justice ie Eric
Holder say yeah, go ahead. We'll

2416
02:24:04,860 --> 02:24:09,150
go get the warrant later on.
It's exactly the opposite. Okay,

2417
02:24:09,210 --> 02:24:12,480
so I don't know shit about
technology. Okay, I'm dumb. And

2418
02:24:12,480 --> 02:24:15,870
this is what I'll get. You don't
know. But why frame injection

2419
02:24:15,870 --> 02:24:19,350
packets? Koufax? backdoors No, I

2420
02:24:19,350 --> 02:24:21,630
don't but you wouldn't read the
chat room play the rest of this.

2421
02:24:21,900 --> 02:24:22,950
No, no, I'm not I'm not.

2422
02:24:23,310 --> 02:24:25,860
I turned to the chat room to me.
That was a chat room.

2423
02:24:26,070 --> 02:24:30,510
That's that was not the chat
room guy that was experienced

2424
02:24:30,510 --> 02:24:37,500
guy. But I am a licenced amateur
radio operator. I am licenced

2425
02:24:37,530 --> 02:24:41,970
twice. Now. It's important for
this last bit. Because he went

2426
02:24:42,030 --> 02:24:46,380
at the very end of the speech he
goes and I I have this whole

2427
02:24:46,380 --> 02:24:49,830
lead up. And he's saying who was
surprised by this? Who thought

2428
02:24:49,830 --> 02:24:52,860
that they would be surprised by
anything? I said, I'm gonna blow

2429
02:24:52,860 --> 02:24:58,620
your fucking mind now. And then
he goes into this mind blowing

2430
02:24:58,620 --> 02:25:05,370
piece of technology. which is
continuous wave radar. And this

2431
02:25:05,370 --> 02:25:10,260
continuous wave radar device as
you will hear him set it up is

2432
02:25:10,260 --> 02:25:15,660
one kilowatt at about a
gigahertz. I am licenced up to

2433
02:25:15,660 --> 02:25:22,770
1500 Watts 1.5 kilowatts. And I
am licenced far into the

2434
02:25:22,770 --> 02:25:29,370
gigahertz spectrum. I know a
thing or two about RF, this is

2435
02:25:29,940 --> 02:25:34,140
this genius his take on it, and
the audience laps it up.

2436
02:25:36,990 --> 02:25:39,960
When I told Julian Assange about
this, he he said it right, he

2437
02:25:39,960 --> 02:25:44,580
said, I bet the people who are
around Hugo Chavez are going to

2438
02:25:44,580 --> 02:25:47,910
wonder what caused his cancer.
And I said, you know, I hadn't

2439
02:25:47,910 --> 02:25:51,150
considered that. But, you know,
I haven't found any data about

2440
02:25:51,150 --> 02:25:55,740
human safety about these tools,
has the NSA performed tests

2441
02:25:55,740 --> 02:25:59,790
where they actually show that
radiating people with one

2442
02:25:59,790 --> 02:26:03,510
kilowatt of RF energy at short
range is safe.

2443
02:26:03,810 --> 02:26:07,410
Now what he's referring to is
the CT x 4000. He shows the

2444
02:26:07,410 --> 02:26:13,200
slide on the screen. And the CT
x 4000. as per its description,

2445
02:26:13,530 --> 02:26:16,200
is used to collect signals that
otherwise would not be

2446
02:26:16,200 --> 02:26:19,080
collectible and extremely
difficult to collect and process

2447
02:26:19,080 --> 02:26:22,770
the way it works is it spot it's
like a radar and it spouts off

2448
02:26:22,770 --> 02:26:29,280
this one to two gigahertz beam
45 megahertz of bandwidth. And

2449
02:26:29,280 --> 02:26:32,550
whatever pops back it can then
it can essentially can read

2450
02:26:32,580 --> 02:26:36,390
could even read your monitor the
device that he's showing, and

2451
02:26:36,390 --> 02:26:41,010
the specs that he's showing says
output power user adjustable up

2452
02:26:41,010 --> 02:26:45,030
to two watts using the internal
amplifier, external amplifiers

2453
02:26:45,060 --> 02:26:49,980
make it possible to go up to one
kilowatt, which is 500 watts

2454
02:26:49,980 --> 02:26:54,570
less than I'm then I and
licenced to use after memorising

2455
02:26:54,630 --> 02:26:59,850
100 questions in the one to two
gigahertz range. And he is now

2456
02:26:59,850 --> 02:27:03,720
spinning this a as if they are
standing next to people with a

2457
02:27:03,750 --> 02:27:07,320
with a one kilowatt signal
beaming it into their head. And

2458
02:27:07,320 --> 02:27:10,650
that this is how Hugo Chavez got
cancer. Oh,

2459
02:27:11,580 --> 02:27:16,410
my God. No, you guys think I'm
joking, right? Well, yeah, here

2460
02:27:16,410 --> 02:27:20,160
it is. This is a continuous wave
generator, continuous wave radar

2461
02:27:20,160 --> 02:27:23,340
unit, you can detect its use
because it's used between one

2462
02:27:23,340 --> 02:27:27,420
and two gigahertz. And it's
bandwidth is up to 45 megahertz

2463
02:27:27,750 --> 02:27:31,710
user adjustable to watts. Using
an internal amplifier, external

2464
02:27:31,710 --> 02:27:39,780
amplifier makes it possible to
go up to one kilowatt. Just kind

2465
02:27:39,780 --> 02:27:40,980
of let you take that in for a
moment.

2466
02:27:42,300 --> 02:27:47,520
Really, I can put up a wire in
my back yard legally and blast

2467
02:27:47,520 --> 02:27:51,030
1.5 kilowatts at the same
frequency. You don't need to

2468
02:27:51,030 --> 02:27:54,960
have that soak in Apple bomb.
It's not a big deal. Don't stick

2469
02:27:54,960 --> 02:27:56,460
the wire in your mouth.

2470
02:27:58,080 --> 02:28:02,010
This is bullshit. And you get a
nasty RF burn,

2471
02:28:02,040 --> 02:28:05,220
you can get it of course you can
get an RF burn. But this but

2472
02:28:05,220 --> 02:28:09,120
he's making it sound like the
evil NSA is blasting people with

2473
02:28:09,120 --> 02:28:11,730
a kilowatt from force four
inches away.

2474
02:28:13,650 --> 02:28:15,540
Who's crazy now you are.

2475
02:28:17,610 --> 02:28:18,930
Hey, you gotta laugh.

2476
02:28:20,580 --> 02:28:23,550
So that goes on for four more
minutes and people just lap it

2477
02:28:23,550 --> 02:28:30,900
up. I'm sorry, I actually know
something about this. So

2478
02:28:31,770 --> 02:28:38,190
Applebaum. If as long as you pay
him for his development work of

2479
02:28:38,190 --> 02:28:42,570
his free, quote unquote,
software, I'm sure he'll protect

2480
02:28:42,570 --> 02:28:51,540
you. Google, from EDR. And I'm
pretty sure that Glenn Greenwald

2481
02:28:51,570 --> 02:29:00,630
in all of this is he seems like
the perfect guy to line up, he's

2482
02:29:00,630 --> 02:29:05,340
so narcissistic. He's so full of
himself. He loves to see and

2483
02:29:05,340 --> 02:29:08,310
hear himself so much. This is
what I think what happened, I

2484
02:29:08,310 --> 02:29:11,520
think, you know, yeah, there
were 50,000 slides or documents

2485
02:29:11,520 --> 02:29:14,610
or whatever. They had to come up
with this. There's more this

2486
02:29:14,610 --> 02:29:19,980
1.5 1.7 to keep Greenwald Shut
up to keep him happy than to

2487
02:29:19,980 --> 02:29:22,320
think that he's going to get
something else. He didn't have

2488
02:29:22,320 --> 02:29:28,200
it. I doubt it exists, but he
doesn't have this. So sitting

2489
02:29:28,200 --> 02:29:31,230
there the true collaborateurs
Poydras, who we know nothing

2490
02:29:31,230 --> 02:29:35,940
about and everyone gives her a
free pass. Except for the US

2491
02:29:35,940 --> 02:29:39,150
Army who thinks she pretty much
might have helped kill some

2492
02:29:39,150 --> 02:29:44,340
people, Americans and this guy
all living in Berlin. I'm

2493
02:29:44,340 --> 02:29:52,230
disgusted by it. And I'm
disturbed that people who truly

2494
02:29:52,230 --> 02:29:57,270
mean well and really understand
technology are falling into this

2495
02:29:57,270 --> 02:30:01,440
trap of oh, look at all the
exploits. So while their

2496
02:30:01,440 --> 02:30:05,160
information is being sucked away
from the the true media

2497
02:30:05,160 --> 02:30:10,110
companies that were just giving
a past to, and the internet of

2498
02:30:10,110 --> 02:30:12,420
things that the CIA is building,
that's where it's really

2499
02:30:12,420 --> 02:30:14,610
happened, you being distracted
and you're looking at all the

2500
02:30:14,610 --> 02:30:21,450
wrong things. Backslash oh and
by the way, when he says, I

2501
02:30:21,450 --> 02:30:24,900
didn't clip this, if you're a
reporter, you should only use

2502
02:30:24,900 --> 02:30:30,210
tales, which is a Linux instal
on a USB stick, which uses up

2503
02:30:30,990 --> 02:30:34,710
Tor. I'd run away from anything
Applebaum suggests to me.

2504
02:30:39,210 --> 02:30:42,030
Yeah, yeah, I can see that.
Well, they do everyone. It's a

2505
02:30:42,030 --> 02:30:44,730
known fact that Tor is
compromised. So I don't know why

2506
02:30:45,240 --> 02:30:48,090
people are so still to yakking
about it. So it's not

2507
02:30:49,080 --> 02:30:54,630
as funny Mickey walked by the
studio. And he's listening says,

2508
02:30:54,630 --> 02:30:59,880
you know, who said who was
Applebaum? She she knows that at

2509
02:30:59,880 --> 02:31:01,590
this moment. She hasn't quit.
She hasn't put it together

2510
02:31:01,590 --> 02:31:04,470
because I haven't done this
whole spiel. I said, What do you

2511
02:31:04,470 --> 02:31:07,260
think he says, you know,
whenever I hear someone talk

2512
02:31:07,260 --> 02:31:09,390
like this, like they've got it
all figured out. I don't trust

2513
02:31:09,390 --> 02:31:13,860
them. Okay, I'll take that as
instinct.

2514
02:31:17,460 --> 02:31:24,120
Yeah, well, okay. Well, that's a
different conclusion is Apple

2515
02:31:24,120 --> 02:31:28,440
bomb is what he is. He's part of
the Cabal. That's God that we

2516
02:31:28,440 --> 02:31:31,170
don't know what who they work
for West Point. Well, the

2517
02:31:31,170 --> 02:31:36,780
conclusion kind of is he's
protecting the true NSA. Which

2518
02:31:36,780 --> 02:31:41,100
is, is all the company do? It's
AT and T It's Verizon. It's

2519
02:31:41,100 --> 02:31:42,540
Google. It's Yahoo.

2520
02:31:42,630 --> 02:31:45,840
No, he's protecting corporate
interests. Yes. He's not

2521
02:31:45,840 --> 02:31:47,730
protecting the NSA at all. No.

2522
02:31:49,410 --> 02:31:55,020
Well, that but that is the NSA.
Facebook is the NSA. It is the

2523
02:31:55,020 --> 02:31:58,260
FBI. This is it. That's what it
is that that is that's the

2524
02:31:58,260 --> 02:32:02,070
database. This is no, this is
not a secret, but you're being

2525
02:32:02,100 --> 02:32:04,260
distracted away. This is what it
is.

2526
02:32:04,710 --> 02:32:06,480
Yeah, well, that's why I'm not
on Facebook.

2527
02:32:08,280 --> 02:32:10,050
All right, let's take a break.
I'm going to show

2528
02:32:10,050 --> 02:32:13,470
my son move by donation to no
agenda. Imagine all the people

2529
02:32:13,470 --> 02:32:15,510
who could do that. Oh, yeah,
that'd be fun.

2530
02:32:23,610 --> 02:32:26,310
So Craig phenomena we want to
thank a few people here for

2531
02:32:26,310 --> 02:32:31,410
supporting today's show.
$186.19, East Kilbride, South

2532
02:32:31,410 --> 02:32:36,360
Lancashire UK Good for him.
Happy birthday or happy new year

2533
02:32:36,360 --> 02:32:39,930
Dorothy and Lillian. He started
with an instant night when was

2534
02:32:39,930 --> 02:32:43,380
his donation to take me to a
feminist sounding Baronet dice,

2535
02:32:44,520 --> 02:32:50,490
sir. Are and yeah, I think it's
Sir Andrew MSNA destiny in

2536
02:32:50,490 --> 02:32:57,270
Colorado Springs. 12345. William
Dorkin in Greenville, South

2537
02:32:57,270 --> 02:33:08,430
Carolina 12345. Nice as Dame Sam
Minar. Okay. Happy New Year from

2538
02:33:08,430 --> 02:33:12,570
Dame Sam and his girls from the
house of dubious repute. He sent

2539
02:33:12,570 --> 02:33:15,000
us pictures. That's right,
Samantha, I believe.

2540
02:33:15,270 --> 02:33:18,990
And wait a minute. Does she not
have a that's a Make It Rain

2541
02:33:18,990 --> 02:33:21,210
donation but no one requested on
stage.

2542
02:33:21,690 --> 02:33:24,360
And she didn't request herself.
She didn't have time to email

2543
02:33:24,360 --> 02:33:29,400
because I'm doing it on Sunday.
Okay. And a lot of travelling.

2544
02:33:29,610 --> 02:33:35,820
Sheldon was weasoner Weisner,
Weisner in Lubbock, Texas, on

2545
02:33:35,820 --> 02:33:39,900
$11.11 I want to start by saying
I'm so thankful for the analysis

2546
02:33:39,900 --> 02:33:42,390
you produce every week. There's
my first donation a long time.

2547
02:33:43,080 --> 02:33:45,900
In my road to knighthood I
figured I'd start the year off

2548
02:33:45,900 --> 02:33:49,290
with a bang before I hop on much
smaller donation befitting

2549
02:33:49,410 --> 02:33:51,960
second year political science
major and other students good.

2550
02:33:51,960 --> 02:33:55,560
Yeah. And we're influencing the
student tree. He's got dough

2551
02:33:55,560 --> 02:33:55,830
bought

2552
02:33:55,830 --> 02:33:58,320
mom, Karen to the stage. We'll
bring her up on Sunday at the

2553
02:33:58,320 --> 02:34:01,950
douching for my longtime Boehner
status and a douchebag call out

2554
02:34:02,130 --> 02:34:05,730
for the guy on the internet who
says I like to suck off closeted

2555
02:34:05,730 --> 02:34:12,450
conservative queers. Okay, not
sure what this had to do with

2556
02:34:12,450 --> 02:34:16,740
the global warming debate. This
is the reaction people have when

2557
02:34:16,740 --> 02:34:19,710
presented with the facts learned
on the no agenda show. I take it

2558
02:34:19,710 --> 02:34:22,560
as a good sign. Yeah, so that's
what somebody called him.

2559
02:34:23,250 --> 02:34:26,490
When he when he I guess he was
talking about like, hey, the

2560
02:34:26,490 --> 02:34:30,510
rich kids of Instagram are stuck
in the ice. Hey, you go soak off

2561
02:34:30,510 --> 02:34:33,990
your closet of conservative
queer friends. Which I guess is

2562
02:34:33,990 --> 02:34:38,190
us. We I guess we're the
closeted conservative queers.

2563
02:34:38,280 --> 02:34:41,880
Yeah, speak for yourself. Get
give him a douching Of course.

2564
02:34:43,890 --> 02:34:45,720
You've been de deuced

2565
02:34:45,750 --> 02:34:51,960
on this rattle off the rest of
the fine folks. Oops, no. One

2566
02:34:51,960 --> 02:34:54,510
dollars and Berlin. Sorry, I
missed that. By the way. Agent

2567
02:34:54,510 --> 02:34:56,850
Orange, go check on these these
people over there and tell us

2568
02:34:56,850 --> 02:34:57,480
what you find

2569
02:34:57,510 --> 02:35:01,080
here. We know Agent Orange and
it This is a New Year's gift

2570
02:35:01,080 --> 02:35:05,340
from him. And he's he is in
Berlin and he gives me

2571
02:35:05,340 --> 02:35:07,890
information about what's going
on in Berlin. So I speak with

2572
02:35:07,890 --> 02:35:11,970
some Berlin knowledge and
knowledge. Here we go.

2573
02:35:14,429 --> 02:35:20,009
Ivo Welton and am him. Arnie is
it aren't aren't on him

2574
02:35:20,039 --> 02:35:23,069
Evo velten. Evo Veltins

2575
02:35:23,070 --> 02:35:29,700
but he said 99 from Barnum RNM
Deutschland, I'm sorry. Yeah,

2576
02:35:29,730 --> 02:35:34,890
that's good. Holland. Yeah.
Candice Hart. 77 saqa sevens

2577
02:35:34,890 --> 02:35:38,070
from Austin, Texas right down
the street from you, Chris, and

2578
02:35:38,070 --> 02:35:41,220
she's got a birthday coming up,
or somebody does. Christine

2579
02:35:41,220 --> 02:35:44,280
Zachman and lost wages Nevada
and another sack of sevens and

2580
02:35:44,280 --> 02:35:50,760
other birthdays. 16 I did. James
Burke, six United six and a half

2581
02:35:50,760 --> 02:35:54,660
from Richmond, North Yorkshire
Yorkshire. Trent Ravus. Webb is

2582
02:35:54,690 --> 02:36:00,390
whiteness. Sneaky rabbit 6969
from Elwood, Victoria, Canada,

2583
02:36:00,420 --> 02:36:04,410
Australia. I'm sorry and Timothy
Tillman, in Mechanicsville,

2584
02:36:04,410 --> 02:36:11,310
Virginia. That closes that
Nicholas Betson in Geelong. Get

2585
02:36:11,310 --> 02:36:15,690
along G long was on the dime
Australia which is nice to get

2586
02:36:15,690 --> 02:36:22,170
our Aussie friends involved.
Michaela, which Roman in St.

2587
02:36:22,170 --> 02:36:24,690
Petersburg Russia $55

2588
02:36:25,200 --> 02:36:28,800
From Russia with hate. He says
hey, yeah,

2589
02:36:29,550 --> 02:36:34,200
Shannon Adkins Warren, Michigan
Michaels Siegenthaler. There's a

2590
02:36:34,200 --> 02:36:38,280
5050 Miko Siegenthaler in
Phoenix, Arizona fifth 50 And

2591
02:36:38,280 --> 02:36:43,110
then the $50 come in for came in
from John de Vela in Naperville,

2592
02:36:43,110 --> 02:36:47,940
Illinois. Greg are short Greg
Brunson and Kenosha, Wisconsin,

2593
02:36:48,420 --> 02:36:52,170
Karl Baron, possibly cert Carl,
if I'm not mistaken. He's in

2594
02:36:52,170 --> 02:36:58,050
Malmo, Sweden, Katherine Lee
with a birthday call out in

2595
02:36:58,050 --> 02:37:03,240
Malaysia $50. And that closes
the segment for no agenda

2596
02:37:03,240 --> 02:37:08,220
donations for show 579 It was a
lot less your donations came in

2597
02:37:08,220 --> 02:37:13,230
as we tried to get people to go
$20.14 said a couple of them. We

2598
02:37:13,230 --> 02:37:18,360
had a few we had about 15. And I
want to thank them and everybody

2599
02:37:18,360 --> 02:37:22,170
else who gave lesser amounts for
keep the show going. And so you

2600
02:37:22,170 --> 02:37:24,870
can get kind of information you
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2601
02:37:26,340 --> 02:37:28,650
Well, you certainly get the
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2602
02:37:28,650 --> 02:37:34,200
else. And and I say take what we
do and sit on it for a day or

2603
02:37:34,200 --> 02:37:36,990
two and consider what what may
be going on what you may think

2604
02:37:36,990 --> 02:37:41,880
is really happening. And it's
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2605
02:37:41,880 --> 02:37:44,430
because of these donations that
we can even venture into this

2606
02:37:44,430 --> 02:37:47,340
territory. I hope people
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2607
02:37:47,910 --> 02:37:51,510
I think that people who support
the show, do they inherently

2608
02:37:51,510 --> 02:37:55,860
understand that this? We can't
even have this conversation. You

2609
02:37:55,860 --> 02:38:01,200
imagine CNET? Talking about
this,

2610
02:38:01,950 --> 02:38:06,720
or slamming Apple bomb? Well,
nobody would do that. It's a

2611
02:38:06,720 --> 02:38:10,680
heresy. It's a heresy. Let me
ask you this. I'm not giving you

2612
02:38:10,680 --> 02:38:14,490
the show anymore. If you look
the guy up, he's never given to

2613
02:38:14,490 --> 02:38:14,850
the show.

2614
02:38:14,940 --> 02:38:19,110
If you I just I'll say I'll say
this. Here's the here's one for

2615
02:38:19,110 --> 02:38:22,800
you kids. If you really wanted
all the information that

2616
02:38:22,800 --> 02:38:27,300
somebody had on their computer,
wouldn't you go to Carbonite and

2617
02:38:27,300 --> 02:38:33,390
say, give me that? Has anyone
even asked them? Hey, Carbonite,

2618
02:38:33,390 --> 02:38:37,470
Have you have you? Do you? Have
you ever received a request? The

2619
02:38:37,470 --> 02:38:40,500
people won't even ask that of
this company, because they're

2620
02:38:40,500 --> 02:38:43,800
advertising. This is the
inherent compromise that you

2621
02:38:43,800 --> 02:38:46,890
have to deal with, that we don't
have. So we can at least ask the

2622
02:38:46,890 --> 02:38:47,310
question.

2623
02:38:47,670 --> 02:38:50,940
Knights only one of about 10 of
these companies that do cloud

2624
02:38:50,940 --> 02:38:51,870
back. How about

2625
02:38:51,870 --> 02:38:56,880
Apple's backup system? They back
you up to the cloud? Microsoft?

2626
02:38:57,869 --> 02:39:00,119
Always ask this question,
because I've never been cloud

2627
02:39:00,119 --> 02:39:03,749
oriented. Except for my email.
Yeah. And you know, it's not a

2628
02:39:03,869 --> 02:39:06,569
sensually on the cloud because
I'm using IMAP and you can't

2629
02:39:06,569 --> 02:39:09,539
really avoid such things. But
but when you use a lot of these

2630
02:39:09,539 --> 02:39:12,839
services, like pay, Pels on the
cloud is very sluggish is really

2631
02:39:12,839 --> 02:39:16,259
not a very positive experience.
But I've always asked a question

2632
02:39:16,259 --> 02:39:23,129
in an era of hard disk for right
now Costco, four terabyte hard

2633
02:39:23,129 --> 02:39:27,419
disk for about 150 bucks, I can
go buy one and backup the

2634
02:39:27,419 --> 02:39:31,169
hardest. And I can backup up to
my heart's content with no use

2635
02:39:31,169 --> 02:39:34,169
of my bandwidth or anything
else. I don't have to wait

2636
02:39:34,169 --> 02:39:37,709
forever because I'm not going to
get any throughput as opposed to

2637
02:39:37,709 --> 02:39:41,999
it's 3.0 USB, back and up to my
own heart is saying take the

2638
02:39:41,999 --> 02:39:44,609
thing and give it to a friend or
I can put it somewhere and then

2639
02:39:44,609 --> 02:39:49,349
you back up again some other
time with super cheap I mean,

2640
02:39:49,349 --> 02:39:55,259
that is a dirt cheap price for
four gigabytes, or terabytes.

2641
02:39:55,289 --> 02:39:56,129
Why am I thinking?

2642
02:39:57,390 --> 02:39:58,950
I say have you done this?

2643
02:39:59,640 --> 02:40:03,240
I bet I kept I have two backups.
I have a two terabyte drive in

2644
02:40:03,240 --> 02:40:04,320
the trunk of my car.

2645
02:40:05,879 --> 02:40:09,209
Wow. Okay, there you go in and
say, it's not that hard to hit

2646
02:40:09,209 --> 02:40:10,229
that old Alexis

2647
02:40:11,400 --> 02:40:14,220
to crack into the car and his
horn goes off at the drop event

2648
02:40:14,220 --> 02:40:14,460
which

2649
02:40:14,460 --> 02:40:16,440
by the way, that would be
illegal.

2650
02:40:17,160 --> 02:40:18,270
Yeah, that's illegal.

2651
02:40:19,590 --> 02:40:22,620
Going to Carbonite going to
Carbonite. And requesting your

2652
02:40:22,620 --> 02:40:25,440
data is not illegal. So

2653
02:40:26,010 --> 02:40:29,460
I can buy these cheap, I can get
a two terabyte drive for like,

2654
02:40:29,670 --> 02:40:33,180
less than $100. And I can backup
to my heart's content. It

2655
02:40:33,180 --> 02:40:36,030
doesn't take that long. And I
can backup everyday just do I

2656
02:40:36,030 --> 02:40:39,870
can do a mirror, it doesn't make
any difference. Why during that

2657
02:40:39,900 --> 02:40:43,410
era, have we been promoting
whatever it is the tech

2658
02:40:43,410 --> 02:40:47,160
community in general been
promoting this on over the air

2659
02:40:47,160 --> 02:40:51,390
backup, this online backup that
is slow, it takes forever?

2660
02:40:51,420 --> 02:40:55,260
I'll answer the question. Look
at who's advertising. That's

2661
02:40:55,260 --> 02:40:58,560
your answer. Why is the tech
community promoting it? Because

2662
02:40:58,560 --> 02:41:01,920
there's no critical analysis of
it. Because they're the ones

2663
02:41:01,920 --> 02:41:04,110
that are actually advertising.

2664
02:41:04,890 --> 02:41:08,730
What I said from the beginning
and Intel did it for a while.

2665
02:41:08,880 --> 02:41:13,290
It's dumb, it's slow. I cannot
give a mirror image in my mind

2666
02:41:13,290 --> 02:41:16,170
was Yeah, I got at least a
terabyte worth of photos. And

2667
02:41:16,170 --> 02:41:20,580
you can't back these up to over
the net is you just get unless I

2668
02:41:20,580 --> 02:41:24,780
had a gigabit connection against
as me why Google's pushing the

2669
02:41:24,780 --> 02:41:28,950
Gigabit Ethernet. Oh, you think
very good. But you know that

2670
02:41:28,950 --> 02:41:31,710
that's but that's not available
to me. Oh, you and 18 t

2671
02:41:31,710 --> 02:41:34,230
is going to do it. Verizon is
already doing it. It's all going

2672
02:41:34,230 --> 02:41:34,860
to be this.

2673
02:41:34,980 --> 02:41:38,490
Just don't trust it is what it's
and then if they don't like the

2674
02:41:38,490 --> 02:41:41,250
looks on your face and say, You
know what? We're cancelling your

2675
02:41:41,250 --> 02:41:41,700
account. Oh,

2676
02:41:41,700 --> 02:41:45,120
and by the way, what does Google
say? You can't run a server on

2677
02:41:45,120 --> 02:41:49,260
our Gigabit Ethernet. You can't
run a server on that. Yeah,

2678
02:41:49,260 --> 02:41:52,800
they've come back a little bit.
Well, yeah, you can kind of

2679
02:41:52,800 --> 02:41:56,460
maybe yeah, you can run an Xbox
like thing, whatever. Now, the

2680
02:41:56,460 --> 02:41:59,790
first thing you say is you need
to connect to us. That's

2681
02:41:59,790 --> 02:42:02,490
alright. If that's if that's the
internet people want Fine. Fine.

2682
02:42:02,640 --> 02:42:05,010
You go use that. That's what
they want. That's what they

2683
02:42:05,010 --> 02:42:09,240
want, John. Alright, so again,
another part of the conversation

2684
02:42:09,240 --> 02:42:11,190
we could not have if we were
seeing it.

2685
02:42:12,510 --> 02:42:15,030
No, of course. No, we couldn't
even discuss any of it. Do we

2686
02:42:15,030 --> 02:42:20,730
lose the advertiser be on the
phone? Hey, hey. Oh, now she

2687
02:42:21,420 --> 02:42:22,500
better apologise.

2688
02:42:23,550 --> 02:42:28,890
But also good. Yeah, hello, it's
good. Corinne Devora back here.

2689
02:42:28,890 --> 02:42:29,340
What's up?

2690
02:42:29,700 --> 02:42:34,650
Yeah, this is Carbonite. I'm
your account rep. Hi. Hi, Mr.

2691
02:42:34,650 --> 02:42:39,240
Carbonite account rep. What's
up? Hey, my boss chewed me out

2692
02:42:39,240 --> 02:42:40,830
for what you guys did.

2693
02:42:42,180 --> 02:42:44,640
What do you mean what we did?
What did we do better?

2694
02:42:44,850 --> 02:42:48,960
Fire those two guys. And you
better announced they were fired

2695
02:42:48,960 --> 02:42:50,910
and you better announced they
were fired? Because they said

2696
02:42:50,910 --> 02:42:52,290
bad things about us.

2697
02:42:55,140 --> 02:42:56,580
Or else what are you going to
do?

2698
02:42:57,029 --> 02:43:00,569
Me and my other buddies that
advertise in your crappy network

2699
02:43:00,629 --> 02:43:02,279
and we're gonna pull our ads

2700
02:43:02,340 --> 02:43:04,590
Alright, hold on a second. Let
me call over to ad sales. Hold

2701
02:43:04,590 --> 02:43:10,800
on a second. Hey, ad sales. Hey,
this ad sales Hey, what is the

2702
02:43:10,800 --> 02:43:13,320
carbonite contract worth us? Is
that a lot of money? I mean,

2703
02:43:13,320 --> 02:43:15,870
because they're like got some
bitching phone call about that.

2704
02:43:16,619 --> 02:43:20,219
Network why wait, let me look it
up. Network. Why network? Why?

2705
02:43:20,219 --> 02:43:24,839
500 No, no, it's $5 million a
year network wide.

2706
02:43:24,929 --> 02:43:27,149
Oh, well, this threatened to
pull in unless we fire those

2707
02:43:27,149 --> 02:43:29,069
Korean Devorah guys, don't let

2708
02:43:29,190 --> 02:43:31,350
me fight those guys that you
don't even pay him. Let me check

2709
02:43:31,350 --> 02:43:35,190
their salaries. What nobody
cares.

2710
02:43:39,510 --> 02:43:43,830
Another Theatre of the mind play
from the curry DeVore act acting

2711
02:43:43,830 --> 02:43:47,970
group is boruch.org/n A.

2712
02:43:54,810 --> 02:43:57,990
Candice Hart congratulates her
boyfriend cosi. He turned 26.

2713
02:43:57,990 --> 02:44:00,240
Today Christine Zachman
celebrated on the first of the

2714
02:44:00,240 --> 02:44:04,560
first and Katherine Lee was.
Well Katherine celebrated her

2715
02:44:04,560 --> 02:44:08,850
birthday on Sunday. Last Sunday.
So we say Happy belated birthday

2716
02:44:08,850 --> 02:44:11,370
and happy birthday to all of you
from your friends here at the

2717
02:44:11,370 --> 02:44:16,800
best podcast in the universe.
And then we have of course, sir

2718
02:44:16,800 --> 02:44:21,900
Craig of phenomena he becomes a
Baronet, which is a title. And

2719
02:44:21,930 --> 02:44:26,340
then we have Edward sheets who
is very proud to join the round

2720
02:44:26,340 --> 02:44:30,630
table first one of the new year,
grab your blade, and we go

2721
02:44:30,630 --> 02:44:36,300
perfect. Edward shields stepped
forward my friend. And

2722
02:44:36,300 --> 02:44:40,830
congratulations on becoming a
member of the roundtable of the

2723
02:44:40,830 --> 02:44:45,210
Knights We hereby proudly
pronounced the SIR sheet sniper

2724
02:44:45,210 --> 02:44:48,030
the nogen rounds. And for you as
requested Cuban cigars and

2725
02:44:48,030 --> 02:44:51,120
single malt scotch along with
cannabis and Cabernet hot

2726
02:44:51,120 --> 02:44:54,120
librarians and Jager bombs opium
and warm orange juice, hookers

2727
02:44:54,120 --> 02:44:57,120
and blow red boys and Chardonnay
bong hits and bourbon vodka and

2728
02:44:57,120 --> 02:45:00,810
allegations and sock a site
sparkling cider an escort And of

2729
02:45:00,810 --> 02:45:04,710
course, the old fashioned button
and mean, it does still work

2730
02:45:04,710 --> 02:45:08,640
sometimes. And we also could
have gone the other way. You

2731
02:45:08,640 --> 02:45:14,130
were talking about Infowars
earlier. There's no big news.

2732
02:45:15,120 --> 02:45:18,210
The Department of Health and
Human Services has ordered 14

2733
02:45:18,210 --> 02:45:24,510
million doses of potassium
iodide. 14 million tablets, of

2734
02:45:24,510 --> 02:45:29,550
course has to be delivered to
them by February 1 2014. That's,

2735
02:45:29,850 --> 02:45:30,300
this has been

2736
02:45:30,869 --> 02:45:35,789
what That? That? That is the six
years the six week cycle. It's

2737
02:45:35,789 --> 02:45:36,449
about there.

2738
02:45:36,660 --> 02:45:40,860
Really? Yep. Interesting. Well,
what prison planet is doing is

2739
02:45:40,860 --> 02:45:45,360
they're selling iodine. Since
the government can have it but

2740
02:45:45,360 --> 02:45:49,440
you can't apparently so you can
go buy some pharmacy. I think

2741
02:45:49,440 --> 02:45:51,900
you should go buys No. Do you
buy the one with Alex Jones on

2742
02:45:51,900 --> 02:45:55,440
it? Are you kidding me? Go look
at his gloves. Ed is yes. He's

2743
02:45:55,440 --> 02:45:57,660
on it. He's on the bottle. All
the shape

2744
02:45:57,660 --> 02:45:58,200
like his head.

2745
02:45:58,590 --> 02:46:01,170
He's got the coffee. He's got
the iodine.

2746
02:46:01,920 --> 02:46:06,300
Oh, there's a coffee. He cracks
me up. I said I pledge I think

2747
02:46:06,840 --> 02:46:09,270
sometime before you know the
next few months when I'm like,

2748
02:46:09,270 --> 02:46:12,270
can't come up with anything. I
will find out the vendor of the

2749
02:46:12,270 --> 02:46:15,330
coffin and find out what the
deal was nice. Alright, good. Is

2750
02:46:15,330 --> 02:46:17,160
this drop shipped? He has
nothing to do with it

2751
02:46:17,940 --> 02:46:20,910
is fun to look at. It's
hilarious.

2752
02:46:21,870 --> 02:46:24,630
So I have to say so I will
mention something here. I'm down

2753
02:46:24,630 --> 02:46:28,230
to two sling boxes. Well,
actually three, there's one in

2754
02:46:28,230 --> 02:46:30,780
Canada. It's just a horrible
setup. It doesn't seem to work

2755
02:46:30,780 --> 02:46:33,840
very well. My main Calgary
connection gave up and unhooked

2756
02:46:33,840 --> 02:46:36,450
it or something. I don't know
what happened. I got one in New

2757
02:46:36,450 --> 02:46:39,900
York out to one of them works.
The other one does. And then I

2758
02:46:39,900 --> 02:46:44,550
have my guy in Tampa, who seems
to be he's got a nice TiVo box

2759
02:46:44,550 --> 02:46:47,070
there. He's got one of the best
systems. But all my other boxes

2760
02:46:47,070 --> 02:46:51,360
are either dead or missing. The
Australian boxes disappeared

2761
02:46:51,360 --> 02:46:55,500
from my list. Well, there's some
help out there people.

2762
02:46:55,560 --> 02:46:59,040
And there was also some kind of
weird upgrade I think, never

2763
02:46:59,040 --> 02:46:59,310
worked. I

2764
02:46:59,310 --> 02:47:01,500
need a London box, a London box.

2765
02:47:02,430 --> 02:47:09,360
That's what she said, hey, if
people want to help out with the

2766
02:47:09,360 --> 02:47:14,940
show, I think they should
participate in this new. The

2767
02:47:14,940 --> 02:47:20,520
White House has a film festival
now. And the film festival is to

2768
02:47:20,520 --> 02:47:26,730
promote STEM. In in classrooms,
technology in the classroom,

2769
02:47:26,730 --> 02:47:31,350
this is all part of your common
core marketing, that the White

2770
02:47:31,350 --> 02:47:34,020
House is now completely
complicit in. You want to hear

2771
02:47:34,020 --> 02:47:36,570
this little ad done by Bill Nye
the Science Guy,

2772
02:47:36,780 --> 02:47:40,560
Bill Nye, I've always I'm always
intrigued by anything he does.

2773
02:47:42,810 --> 02:47:47,970
Okay, how come? He's not? Hey,
Bill Nye the Science Guy here.

2774
02:47:48,480 --> 02:47:52,500
Now, you know, when I was in
school, I used a slide rule. No

2775
02:47:52,500 --> 02:47:55,890
kidding. This is a calculating
device that didn't add or

2776
02:47:55,890 --> 02:47:59,340
subtract. And we wanted
information, we had to go to the

2777
02:47:59,340 --> 02:48:02,340
library and look things up in
blue cards, we had to find

2778
02:48:02,370 --> 02:48:05,520
books, we had to open them, we
had to study the books. But now

2779
02:48:05,730 --> 02:48:09,990
you in the information age,
information from all around the

2780
02:48:09,990 --> 02:48:13,470
world, even from outer space is
available to you at your

2781
02:48:13,470 --> 02:48:17,550
fingertips. It has changed the
world. What you have now is the

2782
02:48:17,550 --> 02:48:21,540
ability to learn things so much
more quickly than I could when I

2783
02:48:21,540 --> 02:48:26,640
was in school. But look, I came
out fine. I'm kidding. So here's

2784
02:48:26,640 --> 02:48:31,110
the thing. If you think that you
can make a cool video about how

2785
02:48:31,110 --> 02:48:34,470
you learn science, technology,
engineering and math using the

2786
02:48:34,470 --> 02:48:37,740
technology that's at your
fingertips, then the President

2787
02:48:37,800 --> 02:48:41,790
the President of the United
States wants to hear from you.

2788
02:48:42,330 --> 02:48:45,300
The White House is accepting
submissions for the first ever

2789
02:48:45,300 --> 02:48:48,780
White House Student Film
Festival. This is for kids like

2790
02:48:48,780 --> 02:48:52,470
you between kindergarten and
12th grade, you can get all the

2791
02:48:52,470 --> 02:48:56,940
information you need online at
whitehouse.gov/film Fest. And

2792
02:48:56,940 --> 02:49:00,540
the films can be short. In fact,
they have to be short, they

2793
02:49:00,540 --> 02:49:03,510
can't be any longer than three
minutes. The official selections

2794
02:49:03,510 --> 02:49:06,630
will be featured on the White
House website and shared around

2795
02:49:06,630 --> 02:49:10,740
the world. On White House sites
and tweets. I can't even stand

2796
02:49:10,740 --> 02:49:13,680
this guy. So it's all promoting
science, technology, engineering

2797
02:49:13,680 --> 02:49:17,370
and math, please, whatever you
do know art or music. Let's just

2798
02:49:17,370 --> 02:49:19,410
keep that away from the stupid
slaves.

2799
02:49:20,730 --> 02:49:24,660
want anyone to be just dumb?
Yeah. Now the whole I have the

2800
02:49:24,690 --> 02:49:26,940
clip that I wanted to play on
the last show and I'm gonna play

2801
02:49:26,940 --> 02:49:31,170
it now. Because I was listening
to it again. And I realised that

2802
02:49:31,170 --> 02:49:33,480
there's something we're
overlooking, I think just in

2803
02:49:33,480 --> 02:49:37,320
general of a fractal which we
don't talk enough about. That is

2804
02:49:37,320 --> 02:49:41,010
actually a fractal. If you This
is about a guy went on a

2805
02:49:41,010 --> 02:49:44,580
shooting spree apparently his
wife was harassing him. So he

2806
02:49:44,580 --> 02:49:48,870
went and shot the parents to her
parents, their granddaughter,

2807
02:49:48,870 --> 02:49:51,780
whatever shot the wife shot one
of his bosses. I was

2808
02:49:51,780 --> 02:49:54,420
collaborating with her there she
was hounding him about you know,

2809
02:49:54,600 --> 02:49:58,380
support or something typical
Monday in America. He flipped he

2810
02:49:58,380 --> 02:50:03,720
flipped and they went crazy. If,
and, and I was, as I listened to

2811
02:50:03,720 --> 02:50:07,380
this a second or third time I
realised that this is a fractal

2812
02:50:07,380 --> 02:50:12,480
of the bullying situation in
schools where you some kid is

2813
02:50:12,480 --> 02:50:15,930
harassed and harassed, he can't
take it anymore because of

2814
02:50:15,930 --> 02:50:19,320
bullying. And then he goes on a
shooting spree then kills

2815
02:50:19,320 --> 02:50:23,790
himself. What's the difference?
Play this. Sorry, don't just say

2816
02:50:23,790 --> 02:50:25,980
play the clip and then tell me
what the difference is okay.

2817
02:50:27,600 --> 02:50:30,090
For learning new details this
new and about a Louisiana man

2818
02:50:30,090 --> 02:50:32,880
accused of targeting his family
and former colleagues in a

2819
02:50:32,880 --> 02:50:36,360
series of deadly home invasions
last night. He killed a hospital

2820
02:50:36,360 --> 02:50:39,870
administrator his former mother
in law and his own wife before

2821
02:50:39,870 --> 02:50:42,690
taking his own life. ABCs Matt
Gutman has more.

2822
02:50:43,650 --> 02:50:47,760
Police believe this man 38 year
old Ben Freeman went from home

2823
02:50:47,760 --> 02:50:51,840
to home in the Fouche parish 30
minutes outside New Orleans on a

2824
02:50:51,840 --> 02:50:53,700
mission to kill. This is

2825
02:50:53,700 --> 02:50:58,800
unprecedented to have three
different victims unrelated,

2826
02:50:59,070 --> 02:51:00,720
targeted by a single killer.

2827
02:51:01,080 --> 02:51:04,800
His first stop at 640 Yesterday
evening. The home of his former

2828
02:51:04,800 --> 02:51:09,300
in laws very allegedly killed
his ex mother in law Susan go

2829
02:51:09,450 --> 02:51:12,990
wounding her husband parish
Councilman Louis go and their

2830
02:51:12,990 --> 02:51:17,070
daughter Andrea Freeman had been
married to the couple's daughter

2831
02:51:17,100 --> 02:51:21,420
gene. Just 20 minutes later,
police believe Freeman targeted

2832
02:51:21,420 --> 02:51:24,990
the home of Milton bourgeois he
administrator Oster St. and

2833
02:51:24,990 --> 02:51:29,460
hospital or Freeman once worked
bourgeoise wife and was also

2834
02:51:29,460 --> 02:51:32,670
shot and taken to an area
hospital where she is now in

2835
02:51:32,670 --> 02:51:37,800
stable condition. A third stop
and a third death. This time

2836
02:51:37,800 --> 02:51:41,100
Freeman's own wife found dead in
their home. Police say a

2837
02:51:41,100 --> 02:51:44,550
shortcut was used in the
shootings. A mess of man HUD

2838
02:51:44,550 --> 02:51:48,630
continued until just a couple of
hours ago, when Ben Freeman was

2839
02:51:48,630 --> 02:51:52,230
found dead in his car on the
side of a highway of a self

2840
02:51:52,230 --> 02:51:53,370
inflicted gunshot

2841
02:51:55,500 --> 02:51:59,460
and during Freeman's spree three
hospitals where he used to work

2842
02:51:59,460 --> 02:52:02,460
were put on lockdown while
police searched right now police

2843
02:52:02,460 --> 02:52:05,070
are still trying to figure out
what sparked that deadly

2844
02:52:05,070 --> 02:52:05,790
shooting spree.

2845
02:52:05,880 --> 02:52:08,220
Now what is sitting today? What
are they even has

2846
02:52:08,220 --> 02:52:09,210
locked down

2847
02:52:09,240 --> 02:52:11,130
show? What is your question
about them that

2848
02:52:11,130 --> 02:52:13,350
they quit? And it's not a
question. It's an observation

2849
02:52:13,650 --> 02:52:18,330
that this is the exact same
bullying meme without the

2850
02:52:18,330 --> 02:52:21,810
bullying message, because it's
the guy flipped for the

2851
02:52:21,810 --> 02:52:24,750
following day. I got this idea
actually from Mimi, when she

2852
02:52:24,750 --> 02:52:27,120
heard the clip. She says, oh,
you know, is obviously the

2853
02:52:27,120 --> 02:52:29,940
wife's fault. It all has
happened. You know, we don't

2854
02:52:29,940 --> 02:52:32,520
blame the victim enough. And I
thought she was just being glib.

2855
02:52:32,550 --> 02:52:36,150
Yeah. But at the same time, I
said, maybe that was the I mean,

2856
02:52:36,150 --> 02:52:39,720
she was obviously gouging this
guy she was bullying him using

2857
02:52:39,720 --> 02:52:42,690
the courts. His prayer, his
mother in law or the you know,

2858
02:52:42,690 --> 02:52:45,870
the mother in law, I'm sure was
on her side again, harassing

2859
02:52:45,870 --> 02:52:49,650
him. And the and the guy flipped
just like a student does in a

2860
02:52:49,650 --> 02:52:52,320
school. And then they have the
same exact results. A guy kills

2861
02:52:52,320 --> 02:52:55,590
himself, and they put a bunch of
people on lockdown. I'm not

2862
02:52:55,590 --> 02:52:59,820
seeing why they have not picked
up on this as a fractal that

2863
02:52:59,820 --> 02:53:03,060
they could dig. Actually, they
can't do it because you can't

2864
02:53:03,270 --> 02:53:06,000
turn this into a bullying mean
when it's exactly the same

2865
02:53:06,000 --> 02:53:10,170
thing. So you actually have
this, this, this thesis about

2866
02:53:10,170 --> 02:53:14,490
bullying creating these maniacs
who go on a killing spree, but

2867
02:53:14,490 --> 02:53:16,620
they won't take it to the next
level, because then you're

2868
02:53:16,620 --> 02:53:17,820
blaming the victim because

2869
02:53:17,820 --> 02:53:21,690
he's not gay. It's like, it
doesn't work unless there's gay

2870
02:53:21,690 --> 02:53:23,550
involved. That's when it becomes
bullying.

2871
02:53:24,180 --> 02:53:27,090
Yeah, well, there's that too. By
the way, I just thought it was

2872
02:53:27,090 --> 02:53:28,950
interesting. And it we should
start looking at like,

2873
02:53:29,070 --> 02:53:30,480
no, no, I totally agree.

2874
02:53:32,130 --> 02:53:34,770
And it has the same elements
locked down.

2875
02:53:34,800 --> 02:53:42,840
Interesting. Anyway, we, the the
white paper the the white paper

2876
02:53:42,840 --> 02:53:46,470
that Brian the gay Crusader is
putting together he's he's been

2877
02:53:46,470 --> 02:53:52,470
feeding me. He's been rewriting
everything really good. About

2878
02:53:52,470 --> 02:53:57,480
the gay the so called gay
Russian anti gay laws. Yeah. Oh,

2879
02:53:57,480 --> 02:54:00,150
man, it's gonna be this. He's
really he this is what

2880
02:54:00,930 --> 02:54:03,780
a lot of people get irked by
when they see the reality of

2881
02:54:03,780 --> 02:54:05,730
some of the stuff that we
discuss. And we

2882
02:54:05,730 --> 02:54:10,140
got big credits, by the way in
this white paper. Good. It was

2883
02:54:10,140 --> 02:54:12,600
funny because suddenly a certain
point, it's like, you know,

2884
02:54:12,600 --> 02:54:15,810
because he wanted to prove us
wrong. And then but he also

2885
02:54:15,810 --> 02:54:20,430
calls us as huge proponents and
supporters of the LGBTQ Qi

2886
02:54:20,430 --> 02:54:24,660
community. I can't wait to have
that on a business card.

2887
02:54:24,810 --> 02:54:25,710
And remember that

2888
02:54:27,060 --> 02:54:30,900
we are supporters of the LGBTQ
Qi community. We're not yet

2889
02:54:31,020 --> 02:54:33,450
we're supported as everybody
says anyone? Yeah, except what I

2890
02:54:33,450 --> 02:54:36,330
mean is as much we're not anti
gay, let's put it that way.

2891
02:54:38,160 --> 02:54:41,100
We're not so I got a couple of
quick clips for the end.

2892
02:54:42,660 --> 02:54:45,630
Alright, I had a few more things
just to talk about briefly. You

2893
02:54:45,630 --> 02:54:48,510
know, we're running out of time.
Can you push them off to Sunday?

2894
02:54:49,740 --> 02:54:53,670
Ah, yeah. Turkeys gonna have to
be on Sunday cuz there's a lot

2895
02:54:53,670 --> 02:54:56,970
let me just see what I got here.
So we'll do Turkey, loose Turkey

2896
02:54:56,970 --> 02:55:04,950
on Sunday. That's important. I'm
just check. Oh, yeah, one thing.

2897
02:55:05,430 --> 02:55:11,070
And I need you for this target.
Can you see? Was there any short

2898
02:55:11,070 --> 02:55:17,580
selling? Like before? December?
Do you have a way of looking at

2899
02:55:17,580 --> 02:55:18,450
that on a chart?

2900
02:55:19,169 --> 02:55:21,599
No, you wouldn't need a
Bloomberg terminal I could have.

2901
02:55:21,809 --> 02:55:22,709
Horowitz look at what

2902
02:55:22,710 --> 02:55:24,600
you ask Horowitz if you if you
talk to him,

2903
02:55:25,379 --> 02:55:27,539
what's your what's your theme?
What's your What are you looking

2904
02:55:27,539 --> 02:55:30,989
for? What do you what is your
basic thoughts on this?

2905
02:55:31,019 --> 02:55:35,039
Okay, so target was compromised.
Target lost a lot of business

2906
02:55:35,039 --> 02:55:38,879
Target lost several points on
the stock market when this hit.

2907
02:55:39,329 --> 02:55:41,849
Yeah. We know that the NSA
knows. And

2908
02:55:41,850 --> 02:55:45,660
he's pretty sure it's Yeah, we
were before the announcement.

2909
02:55:45,660 --> 02:55:47,820
Yes. Correct. I'm sure that
we're

2910
02:55:47,849 --> 02:55:51,059
Yeah. I just like to know if
what he sees on his terminal?

2911
02:55:52,379 --> 02:55:53,849
Because that makes so much
sense.

2912
02:55:54,449 --> 02:55:58,589
Yeah, it was a scam. It's,
that's just idea. This is the

2913
02:55:58,589 --> 02:56:02,339
mob that there's a mob does this
stuff, they get this thing going

2914
02:56:02,339 --> 02:56:05,099
on, they'll do something they
may have leaked the whole idea.

2915
02:56:05,519 --> 02:56:07,559
They sell in New York, or
somebody picks it up, or they

2916
02:56:07,559 --> 02:56:10,229
start selling the names, you
know, I'm sure it was listed as

2917
02:56:10,229 --> 02:56:14,279
target customers, and somebody
finds it, and then they put it

2918
02:56:14,279 --> 02:56:16,109
out on the net. And the next
thing, you know, the stock

2919
02:56:16,109 --> 02:56:19,529
plummets, and somebody who's
who's smartly shorted, you know,

2920
02:56:19,529 --> 02:56:22,859
a few days before, you know, was
probably involved, but there's,

2921
02:56:23,789 --> 02:56:27,779
you know, it can make me a bit
sad promise, if they're really,

2922
02:56:27,809 --> 02:56:32,099
really good. These guys, they
would have shorted so long, so

2923
02:56:32,099 --> 02:56:36,839
much earlier, that you can't
really put the finger on him. So

2924
02:56:36,839 --> 02:56:38,789
that means that's the real
problem that guys are really

2925
02:56:38,789 --> 02:56:42,329
pros. Yeah, they don't short two
days before they short, two

2926
02:56:42,329 --> 02:56:43,139
months, three months or

2927
02:56:43,140 --> 02:56:46,200
four. Well, I just looked at the
chart, and I saw that there's a

2928
02:56:46,200 --> 02:56:50,610
lot of fluctuation in price. Now
fluctuation of course, is all

2929
02:56:50,610 --> 02:56:54,450
relative due to what the the
scale of the chart that you're

2930
02:56:54,450 --> 02:56:56,640
looking at, but I'm not good at
that. So anyway, I asked him,

2931
02:56:57,270 --> 02:57:02,370
and I will end my bits for today
by reading your headline from

2932
02:57:02,370 --> 02:57:07,530
USA Today. More record lows than
highs in USA in 2013. We have

2933
02:57:07,530 --> 02:57:11,430
another huge storm in the in the
east. Now. That's your global

2934
02:57:11,430 --> 02:57:15,930
cooling as promised. Americans
buying less electricity almost

2935
02:57:15,930 --> 02:57:20,700
as little as a 2001. This is
going to really mess up a lot of

2936
02:57:20,700 --> 02:57:26,040
business. But the thing that I
really have trouble with, we

2937
02:57:26,040 --> 02:57:31,230
have tonnes there was another
report here, cesium 137 found in

2938
02:57:31,230 --> 02:57:34,170
strawberries, mushrooms and more
in Northern California,

2939
02:57:34,170 --> 02:57:37,770
including the baby food. Yes,
this is all from Fukushima. Just

2940
02:57:37,770 --> 02:57:41,280
so you know. But what I can't
find any analysis of is the

2941
02:57:41,280 --> 02:57:45,030
environmental damage done by the
train collision and explosion in

2942
02:57:45,030 --> 02:57:47,790
North Dakota. Do you think
anyone is going to look at that

2943
02:57:47,790 --> 02:57:50,400
at all? Do you think there's any
not going to happen? Do you

2944
02:57:50,400 --> 02:57:53,790
think there would be any kind of
environmental damage from this

2945
02:57:53,790 --> 02:57:54,510
accident?

2946
02:57:54,630 --> 02:57:55,470
I would hope

2947
02:57:58,440 --> 02:58:00,570
you know what I was worried at
the beginning of the show. But

2948
02:58:00,570 --> 02:58:05,160
now I know is you Yes. All
right. wrap us up Johnny Boy

2949
02:58:05,160 --> 02:58:07,560
so you have a movie Hardison.
It's called the hearts and minds

2950
02:58:07,560 --> 02:58:09,900
as long as the Bible is a kind
of a wrap up of the Vietnam War,

2951
02:58:09,900 --> 02:58:13,080
a very interesting documentary,
somebody sent us a link to it. I

2952
02:58:13,080 --> 02:58:19,830
watched a little of it. And it
had Daniel Ellsberg making this

2953
02:58:19,830 --> 02:58:24,390
very interesting comment. In one
part of it, he was one of the

2954
02:58:24,390 --> 02:58:28,260
guys that was cuz he's the one
who pretty much busted the whole

2955
02:58:28,260 --> 02:58:31,230
scam of the Vietnam War wide
open. And I just thought this

2956
02:58:31,230 --> 02:58:33,510
was a very nice little thing. He
talked about the

2957
02:58:33,720 --> 02:58:37,710
administration's from Truman on
being a bunch of duplicitous

2958
02:58:37,710 --> 02:58:41,850
liars and the particular clip is
liars and fooling the public.

2959
02:58:47,850 --> 02:58:53,550
Truman lied from 1950 on, on the
nature and purposes of the

2960
02:58:53,550 --> 02:58:57,570
French involvement, the colonial
re conquest of Vietnam that we

2961
02:58:57,570 --> 02:59:02,070
were financing, and encouraging.
Eisenhower lied about the

2962
02:59:02,070 --> 02:59:05,730
reasons for the nature of our
involvement with GM. And the

2963
02:59:05,730 --> 02:59:09,330
fact that he was in power
essentially because of American

2964
02:59:09,330 --> 02:59:13,170
support and American money and
for no other reason. Kennedy

2965
02:59:13,170 --> 02:59:18,600
lied about the type of
involvement we were doing their

2966
02:59:18,600 --> 02:59:21,480
own combat involvement and about
the recommendations that were

2967
02:59:21,480 --> 02:59:24,660
being made to him for greater
involvement. President Kennedy

2968
02:59:24,660 --> 02:59:28,140
lied about the degree of our
participation in the overthrow

2969
02:59:28,140 --> 02:59:35,130
of GM. The Johnson, of course,
lied and lied and lied about

2970
02:59:35,130 --> 02:59:38,160
provocations against the North
Vietnamese prior to and after

2971
02:59:38,160 --> 02:59:42,960
the Tonkin Gulf incidents about
the plans for bombing North

2972
02:59:42,960 --> 02:59:49,410
Vietnam and the nature of the
buildup of American troops in

2973
02:59:49,410 --> 02:59:54,210
Vietnam. Nixon, as we now know,
misled the and lied to the

2974
02:59:54,210 --> 02:59:57,390
American public for the first
months of his office in terms of

2975
02:59:57,390 --> 03:00:00,810
our bombing of Cambodia and Laos
ground operation Since in Laos,

2976
03:00:02,400 --> 03:00:06,060
the reasons for our invasion of
Cambodia, and Laos and the

2977
03:00:06,060 --> 03:00:09,390
prospects for the mining of high
fawn that finally came about in

2978
03:00:09,390 --> 03:00:14,910
1972, but was envisioned as
early as 1969. The American

2979
03:00:14,910 --> 03:00:19,470
public was lied to month by
month by each of these five

2980
03:00:19,470 --> 03:00:23,760
administrations. As I say, it's
a tribute to the American

2981
03:00:23,760 --> 03:00:27,810
public, that their leaders
perceived that they had to be

2982
03:00:27,810 --> 03:00:33,030
lied to. It's no tribute to us
that it was so easy to fool the

2983
03:00:33,030 --> 03:00:33,510
public.

2984
03:00:34,230 --> 03:00:38,400
I just want you to know that
Benghazi was caused by a video

2985
03:00:41,490 --> 03:00:43,350
keep it up the liars it's good.

2986
03:00:44,280 --> 03:00:48,720
What the can you in one send you
because you set it up that way.

2987
03:00:48,720 --> 03:00:51,810
In one sentence, the Pentagon
Papers which are so often

2988
03:00:51,810 --> 03:00:55,890
bandied about, in connection
with Ellsberg name in connection

2989
03:00:55,890 --> 03:01:00,630
with WikiLeaks and Snowden? What
exactly in one paragraph, did

2990
03:01:00,630 --> 03:01:03,420
the Pentagon Papers expose

2991
03:01:03,750 --> 03:01:07,230
that the Vietnam War was
contrived? For what purpose?

2992
03:01:07,830 --> 03:01:10,680
Well, we went there was, well,
if you listen to this same

2993
03:01:10,680 --> 03:01:14,820
thing, Eisenhower had mentioned
in the 50s, that Vietnam was a

2994
03:01:14,850 --> 03:01:18,240
place where we get most of our
tungsten which was really

2995
03:01:18,240 --> 03:01:22,350
necessary for our machineries
and to tungsten and one other

2996
03:01:22,350 --> 03:01:25,620
metal it was a metal thing and
then some people have surmised

2997
03:01:25,620 --> 03:01:30,510
that there's a lot of oil off
the off the coast, which has

2998
03:01:30,510 --> 03:01:32,730
been confirmed more recently,
but they've just never really

2999
03:01:32,730 --> 03:01:36,000
been the oil has never been
exploded. We had a minerals

3000
03:01:36,000 --> 03:01:39,930
interest and of course, the the,
the big lie was that this was

3001
03:01:39,930 --> 03:01:45,900
all part of was a domino theory
that was going to if Vietnam,

3002
03:01:45,900 --> 03:01:49,050
South Vietnam fell, then the
whole all everything from

3003
03:01:49,050 --> 03:01:52,770
Australia to everything is gonna
become communist. Right. And

3004
03:01:52,770 --> 03:01:57,030
that was the kind of the
overriding thesis as why we had

3005
03:01:57,030 --> 03:01:57,120
to

3006
03:01:57,120 --> 03:02:00,030
be there. Yeah, that was that
was before we had Muslims.

3007
03:02:00,750 --> 03:02:01,110
Right?

3008
03:02:01,140 --> 03:02:05,820
That was one of our communist
reforms. Now we switched it from

3009
03:02:05,820 --> 03:02:06,810
the communists tired,

3010
03:02:07,140 --> 03:02:10,770
good, tired of the communist
thing. Although they should

3011
03:02:10,770 --> 03:02:14,970
bring it back, because I've been
reading about South Sudan. And

3012
03:02:15,000 --> 03:02:18,660
all these oil companies are all
Chinese. They're all owned by

3013
03:02:18,660 --> 03:02:23,220
China. Every single one of them
it's at coastline we're gonna

3014
03:02:23,220 --> 03:02:27,090
let it go we're gonna let it
become a Rwanda by this my

3015
03:02:27,090 --> 03:02:30,180
prediction. It's going to become
a Rwanda and the economic hitman

3016
03:02:30,180 --> 03:02:34,110
would verify this that it's he
would advise against it, but I'm

3017
03:02:34,110 --> 03:02:36,990
guessing they're going to choose
to let it become a Rwanda and a

3018
03:02:36,990 --> 03:02:40,620
mess and rubble, and then we'll
come in at the last minute after

3019
03:02:40,620 --> 03:02:44,010
all the deaths and rubble at the
rubble stage and how's the

3020
03:02:44,010 --> 03:02:46,470
Chinese is right now, I don't
think we have it.

3021
03:02:46,530 --> 03:02:49,380
No, no, no, we needs more
rubble, we're not it's not it's

3022
03:02:49,380 --> 03:02:52,260
pretty close, though. Most of
what I've seen there South Sudan

3023
03:02:52,260 --> 03:02:53,100
is kind of rubbly

3024
03:02:53,640 --> 03:02:57,780
It's very rubble it's almost
like 90% there how don't Ross

3025
03:02:57,780 --> 03:02:59,460
started off at high rubble rate

3026
03:03:00,000 --> 03:03:07,380
don't rock don't rap about
rubble rate. Okay, all right,

3027
03:03:07,380 --> 03:03:10,260
give me another clip and we'll
go well, that was kind of good

3028
03:03:10,260 --> 03:03:12,510
though that it's enough to wrap
it up for me.

3029
03:03:14,040 --> 03:03:18,720
Well, there is a it kind of it's
got a couple here. Let's see No

3030
03:03:18,720 --> 03:03:21,900
smoking Palestinian. Oh, okay.
This is the one that's the funny

3031
03:03:21,900 --> 03:03:25,140
one. Well, it's not funny some
guy got killed but play the

3032
03:03:25,140 --> 03:03:26,190
Palestinian clip.

3033
03:03:26,610 --> 03:03:28,830
Are you sure that's usually
pretty funny when someone gets

3034
03:03:28,830 --> 03:03:32,730
killed? Your clip doesn't want
to load here we go.

3035
03:03:33,090 --> 03:03:36,480
A Palestinian ambassador was
killed opening a safe that

3036
03:03:36,480 --> 03:03:40,110
hadn't been opened in 20 years
at his residence in the Czech

3037
03:03:40,110 --> 03:03:44,250
Republic. Police in Prague say
56 year old Jamal Jamal

3038
03:03:44,250 --> 03:03:47,880
inadvertently triggered an
explosive booby trap security

3039
03:03:47,880 --> 03:03:51,210
device on that safe. It had been
moved from an old Embassy

3040
03:03:51,210 --> 03:03:53,820
building and officials say he
wanted to find out what was

3041
03:03:53,820 --> 03:03:54,600
inside.

3042
03:03:55,170 --> 03:03:59,670
Wow, you found out I sure did.
That's why you got to keep

3043
03:03:59,670 --> 03:04:04,110
copious notes. What's in this
save? I don't know. I only

3044
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started working here a year ago.
Okay, I take it in my house. No,

3045
03:04:09,480 --> 03:04:14,190
I guess lovely.

3046
03:04:15,450 --> 03:04:20,550
I had lots of deconstruction on
Turkey, Russia and Palestine

3047
03:04:20,550 --> 03:04:25,620
actually coming up on Sunday
show looking forward to that.

3048
03:04:25,860 --> 03:04:31,470
Thank you all producers,
executives associates. Everyone

3049
03:04:31,470 --> 03:04:36,120
in the segment and below the
line we really appreciate your

3050
03:04:36,120 --> 03:04:39,780
help. Hope you enjoyed some of
this I see a lot of people

3051
03:04:39,780 --> 03:04:43,590
already checking in on the email
saying yeah, thanks for exposing

3052
03:04:43,590 --> 03:04:46,200
that guy. Should be and I can't
wait

3053
03:04:46,410 --> 03:04:47,280
about mp4

3054
03:04:50,730 --> 03:04:53,820
Haven't had a fun keynote like
that to look at before.

3055
03:04:56,310 --> 03:04:58,650
But I would go to one of those
keynotes. He sounds boring.

3056
03:04:59,460 --> 03:05:03,270
Coming to you Are you from FEMA
Region six here in the capital

3057
03:05:03,270 --> 03:05:06,510
of the drone Star state where we
will be flying drones on test

3058
03:05:06,510 --> 03:05:10,080
missions coming up this year? In
the morning, everybody I'm Adam

3059
03:05:10,080 --> 03:05:10,470
curry

3060
03:05:12,929 --> 03:05:17,459
and from Northern Silicon Valley
where I sit here, waiting for

3061
03:05:17,459 --> 03:05:21,419
the machine to reboot and it
didn't do it. John C. Dvorak.

3062
03:05:21,449 --> 03:05:23,789
Yes, we win once again. Hey,
we'll be back on Sunday.

3063
03:05:23,789 --> 03:05:26,309
Everybody right here on your no
agenda

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03:05:36,720 --> 03:05:53,640
can't be gas for baking, frying
hot water.org/n A