We were both criss crossing Manhattan between the UN and the
global Clinton initiative. But I don't think we were ever in the
same place at the same time until the end of the day. That's
often how it is during un week.
That sounds like a horrible life. Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak. December 5 2013 Time for your gizmo nation media
assassination episode 571.
This is no agenda
celebrating sins and the black beads from FEMA Region six here
in Austin, Texas in the morning, everybody. I'm currently
from Northern Silicon Valley plain and simple FEMA Region
nine I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg Levin Buzzkill.
Asked right December 5. Tonight the good synth comes with this
black pizza in the Netherlands and get more lowlands and brings
all the children presents and put them in in their wooden
shoes. Know what their wooden shoe you have to put your shoes
outside you see
this the last time a Dutchman wore a wooden shoe
oh this Dutch farmers still wear them all the time so the cows
don't step by the cow steps on your feet then doesn't hurt no
one wants you just get like industrial boots you know the
kinds of we have steel toes
the tourists don't like looking at that. Are you kidding me? Be
realistic for a minute here.
So the so so it is often a good start. Yeah. Bratton has been
rehired as chief of police in New York. Can you believe that?
And I I care why?
You don't remember this guy. He's just a tough guy to crack
down on crime. He's the one to change the whole New York
landscape. Oh, the guy that Giuliani brought and he's the
guy who made the difference is the guy that was hired to clean
up Los Angeles Yeah,
this is the guy that got all the took the squeegee guys and
dumped them in Ricci guy guy in the East River. Wherever we have
we still don't know where the squeegee guys went and they're
all dead. Yeah.
Okay, apparently the stop and frisk policy is back on. Well,
it's not quite back on but it's kind of Afghan because
apparently brat knows how to do it with respect.
Could you please come over here
so this super liberal lefty supposedly you know these guys
they get in there and they did instead of being liberal at all,
they're actually more fascistic than the guys that came in
earlier. And and I'll bring to bear the point from this clip,
which is the Obama the mean bastard.
I was wondering where you were taking this okay
as President Obama continued a recent tradition of granting a
presidential pardon to the holiday birth of Thanksgiving
critics pointed out he's shown less mercy towards prisoners
deserving clemency. During his presidency, Obama has pardoned
10 turkeys while he's pardoned or commuted the sentences of
only 39 people the fewest burdens of any modern precedent.
The turkeys Carmel and popcorn were granted reprieve at a
ceremony at the White House on Wednesday.
Now before these turkeys get away, with the power vested in
me, I want to grant popcorn a full reprieve. Come on. All for
free from cranberry sauce. We wish you well.
President Obama has pardoned two birds each thanksgiving for the
past five years in both 2009 and 2012. He pardoned more turkeys
than people. Overall, Obama has granted clemency to just 39
people. At the same point in his presidency, Ronald Reagan had
pardoned 313 People Harry Truman pardoned 1537 people. According
to an analysis last year by ProPublica, which studied
applications for pardons processed by the Justice
Department. Obama's granted clemency to just 2% of
applicants. To talk more about this we're joined by Anthony
Papa, artist writer noted advocate against the war on
drugs. He served 12 years in prison for a first time
nonviolent drug offence he was freed only after being granted
executive clemency by the New York Governor George Pataki.
Alright, so what are you saying with this?
Guy's a mean bastard. Here's the other thing. What is it? How
come nobody's called him out on this? He is mocking the Catholic
Church when He pardons the turkey. Why is that? He does the
sign of the cross in front of the burro. It was the Pope.
Well, you know, it's funny because I didn't watch any of
that or even read any articles because this is a stupid thing.
And by the way, is this a leftover? reclip you had this
like Thanksgiving leftovers you're now serving up? Yeah.
Well
and yes a clip that I didn't get for the last show which was
right after Thanksgiving but it's still department thing
doesn't change. He's still not pardoning anybody. All these you
know he's a big liberal about all these drug offences
shouldn't be criminalised. And as all these there's still
people all over the country that are in jail for years because
they had a joint in their pocket
Wow man what side of the bed that you get up on?
I'm just telling you I got out of the I got it I looked at the
spreadsheet decided oh that side yeah, that side of the bed not
good.
Let me go back for a second to it being the fifth of December.
I'm not quite I can't quite really transition from where you
are now but I'd like to go back for a second the Big Black Pete
conversation that that was ongoing for weeks started by
some consultant who has gone to heaven and some grumpy woman and
grumpy woman who happen to have United Nations letterhead
stationery laying around right that woman so in the
Netherlands, of course this is over no one gives a shit
anymore. It's done that the conversation Yeah, maybe in the
next 10 years or so we might change of a rainbow peed or
whatever happens
on the fifth? On the
fifth? I think it's I don't know if it's I think it's the night
of the fourth actually. So it would have been last night. Pete
flies around, sent flies around with his white horse and he's on
the horse and he's Yeah, cuz he can you know hop on the
rooftops. But if the black pea to then go down the chimneys,
and they put presents into the kids wouldn't choose?
Are they black? Because they gotta sit all over them.
I don't really don't want to go into the whole Black Pete
conversation again. But no, they're just black. And it's
been it's been going that way for 400 years. Is
it because they're black that they put them down the chimney?
Because who's gonna notice the sun? Yes.
That sounds right. So this this is going on? Terrible. Well, not
so hidden witness a member of parliament in Nova Scotia, your
hamstrings. And your home was born in Holland. And and so he
was raised at least for a couple of years with this tradition.
And of course he is a kid you believe in it completely. It's
like Sandy Claus. So recently, he took a picture when I guess
he was visiting a family in the Netherlands like at the mall,
you take a picture with Santa. And he took a picture of him and
the black Pete's and Nova Scotia freaks out. They're like, all
you racist. We can't believe you did this. He had to apologise in
Canada. Yes. And he had to apologise and here's live on TV.
He's crying.
Cry, thank God
that that whole blackface culture has there is no place
for that in Nova Scotia nor in our
car culture. This is just the beginning he really starts to
cry later
as well. And the intent behind that there was no malicious
intent whatsoever. This is a heritage tradition, a Dutch
tradition that I grew up with and never ever in my in my
deepest heart ever thought that this would be portrayed in this
manner. Now looking back at it, I guess I can see how the
blackface prostrate is unacceptable he's about he's
about to turn on his culture today's watch him watch him go
this is how politicians are totally on
his budget or turn on his Ultra he's gonna turn
against his own culture,
today's society and I think we're going to work towards
finding that solution.
I would have you what for you has been the balance I guess
between looking at this as you say from your your cultural
background and but then also, obviously this new role for you
as a politician and what maybe is or isn't acceptable for a
politician? How does that
balance All right, so this is this is the big question. And
this is this guy's political career in Nova Scotia.
Everything hangs on this one answer for you.
I'll be honest, been incredibly hard. Because this is I didn't
sign up for this. This is my I did this because I wanted to
better Nova Scotia. Finding that balance between sorry guys, I'm
really sorry. I sat on the black man's lap finding that balance
between an MLA and, and and being at your constraint because
I feel that that's gone. I truly do. My childhood has been stolen
from me and bent. So I have to be respectful that I represent
every culture and no longer your strike. That I'm okay with that
because that's what I signed up with. This is today has been how
um you know what bullshit just blown a ad it's totally this guy
he's like,
like those two idiots senators that were running for the
Republican nomination for the EU they weren't senators they were
running for Senate the US Senate and clue and in the situation
where they put a was an easy walk away when and one of them
talks about legitimate rape.
Oh yeah,
that was the other one had some similar stupidity that he
blurted out because he was just not thinking it'd be a
politician if you're not going to be a politician just going to
be a complete a Ebola. Yeah, like Martin Bashir
Oh, he, he quit.
He was fired, although he chose to resign chose
to resign that, you know, I, this is another thing. It's
like, this is such a non story really, because this guy, the
only place we know this guy from is he interviewed Michael
Jackson. That was his claim to fame wasn't it? Pretty much
right. And so and then he made a comparison to slaves getting
defecated in their face. And that that someone should do
that.
I do have the entire clip for people who want it just for
reference and I think is enjoyable personally. Because
the guy is worse it's worse than that he's such a douchebag but
it's kind of been heightened to death by by back and all those
guys this isn't something
that who cares about back is not even that he was beat he there's
the other side of the aisles is going nuts to it. This is one of
the actually I should I should say this that for just before we
we do a donation segment, because if you'd look up Comcast
Bashir, you see both sides is not just back, it's the other
side is the daily cost. Oh, it was so unfair. A man can't
express himself anymore. And that and the leftist is
defending him and what he said and the women's groups aren't
saying anything about it even though this is really about
that's that's it now I'm going to agree with you there the fact
that not a single solid you know what, screw we got to play this
year, right? Because this this plays into
something that this is violence against women and by the way
beyond violence beyond one subtext. violence and violence
but the war against the word slavery.
Yeah, that too. Well, there's there's three sub tests. There's
the war against men in general, which kind of flows into women's
groups. I mean, the fact that no one not as far as I know, not a
single women advocacy group came to the to Sarah Palin side shows
you how to faced these women. women's groups are two faced
liars and cheap shits. Yeah, we should play that. And
we end this week in the way it began. With America's resident
dunce, Sarah Palin, scraping the barrel of her long, diseased
mind, and using her all time favourite analogy, in an attempt
to sound intelligent about the national debt. Our free
stuff today is being paid for by taking money from our children
and borrowing from China. When that note comes due. In this
isn't racist, so yeah, try it. Try it anyway. This isn't
racist, but it's gonna be like slavery when that note is due.
All right, I gotta stop for a second hear what she just said,
there. He is, by the way insane. It makes no sense. Well, we're
gonna be enslaved to
Congress, she doesn't bring any of this up. What bothers me
about these comments is that most of the debt is sold to the
US public.
Third, the Fed owns 30% of the bond market.
And oh, man of money that Chinese owe us is it's in the A
trillion or so. But it's not a big
deal. Japan, Japan has more I think, than it should be. Yeah,
whatever the case is, this is nonsense. This is just jingoism.
It's just kind of well, like unless you know, the Chinese,
the Chinese the Chinese, which by the way we do. Yes. We got
some good stuff today. Yeah, but it's but it's at least it's
based on some facts and not this kind of just Let's scare an
audience with this bogus crap, but that's okay. Yeah. And
I just I just want to let you know, I read her book. I've
always defended Sarah Palin, but this is idiotic. And the way she
says it, I have to admit it sounds very patronising
and when what's here so it's bothered another thing that
bothers me about her. She actually has all these years
could have taken some voice lessons or some some public
speaking. How about how about salting? Yeah, he sounds worse.
How about some consulting from the curry Devorah consultancy
help this week? That when that bill comes due this I say it's
here when that
fear is off the rails He's always been off the rails. He's
just like Ed Schultz and these other guys. MSNBC has become an
embarrassment to Comcast. I'm so happy.
I'm so happy you're doing this because this allows me to play
MSNBC clips today as well.
It'll be like slavery. Given her well established reputation as a
world class, idiot, it's hardly surprising that she should
choose to mention slavery in a way that is abominable,
abominable ball. You can't even say the word anyone who knows
anything about its barbaric history. So here's an example.
One of the most comprehensive first person accounts of slavery
comes from the personal diary of a man called Thomas this word,
who kept copious notes for 39 years. This word was the son of
a tenant farmer who arrived on the island of Jamaica in April
1750. And assumed the position of overseer at a major
plantation. Do you
do you think that he knew this story and was like, Oh, I got a
great idea or do the research this or Oh, no,
no, somebody in the staff? Yeah, he didn't somebody on the staff
read the book. Now I want to talk about a little just a just
a couple of notes on this book after he's done with his
diatribe.
What is most shocking about Cicero Woods diary is not simply
the fact that he assumes the right to own and possess other
human beings, but his the sheer cruelty and brutality of his
regime. In 1756, he records that a slave named Darby catched
eating Keynes had him well flogged and pickled, then made
Hector another slave Shi T in his mouth. This became known as
davon, a
second S H. I, O,
his dose of punishment invented by this a word that spoke only
of the slave owners Savage, and inhumanity. And he mentions a
similar incident again, in 1756. This time, in relation to a man
he refers to as punch, flogged, punch well, and then washed and
rubbed salt, pickle, lime juice, and Byrd pepper made Negro Joe
piss in his eyes and mouth. I could go on, but you get the
point. When Mrs. Palin invokes slavery, she doesn't just prove
her rank ignorance, she confirms that if anyone truly qualified
for a dose of discipline from Thomas this award, then she
would be the outstanding candidate. Thanks so much for
watching. And she'll says next,
just before you get into the book, first of all, first of
all, he's you know, he didn't actually say someone should shut
her mouth. And second of all, Bernie Eccleston of Formula One
pays good money for that treatment. So I don't understand
what the real problem is this high.
Okay, so let's take a look at that. First of all this wood is,
was a Jamaican slave holder, and the Jamaican operations were a
lot different than they were in the United States because there
was no real oversight whatsoever. And these guys got
away with everything. And the guy was notorious. sadist is a
sadist and a pervert, and who had slaves, which is you know, a
good example of why, you know, this institution was bad from
the get go. They, the University of North Carolina printed his
diaries, which included this, these these incidents, which
were disgusting, but the bring this up at all seems to me to be
something of a stretch because the deed she just used the word
slavery, and they do what he's implying what I think a bigger
picture is again, the word war in the word slavery, because
there's an implication here that you can't say, oh, I'm a wage
slave. No, no, that's racist, because you're now comparing to
the to the slave the horrible slave business where they
crapped in each other's mouths, back in the 1700s. And this is
like this was a this is the kind of crazy analysis that we get
from these net from these channels, these networks and
MSNBC being the worst of it. And I believe that Comcast is, I
think this is the end of it. I think that I think Comcast is
fed up with this crap. This guy is not even the worst of the
group that Ed Schultz is the worst and they moved him to
weekends only. And he's going to be out shortly. This whole
operation may just shut down or go into some sort of competitive
news organisation similar to CNN and die that way.
Well, you kind of you're almost forcing me into MSNBC stuff now.
Well, you're for
God willing, I am just all by the way, if you want if you
want. I do have the mark. Just if you want to do a segue, I do
have the instance there Martin Bashir.
I really I really, really, really don't care. I don't
understand why as
you were, I care for good entertainment. This guy
apologising is hilarious, but
you know what sides were giving him more as audience for the
apology. Just because I Need some data? No
no no You got no you're right giving him more audiences bad so
I never did go on to your miserable clips.
I'm afraid now. No I have to take you out I have to I have to
bring you back to reality. Hello let's go to C span which I was
watching instead of watching reruns of MSNBC reruns of a
something that only back and Limbaugh talk about You surprise
me with this actually surprise me. This is three weeks old.
I hate this guy. Oh, okay.
Well, Representative Duncan Hunter. He's from FEMA Region
nine he's in California he's a republican and he and he made
the mistake of going on that live C span talk show in the
morning with a kind of cute girl host you know I mean
there's actually two cute girl hosts
well there you go that one and it's an it's a live show you can
call in on the Democratic line the Republican line or the
independent line and this show as a politician you should never
ever go on the show. But of course I'm sad once again that
not a single solitary no agenda listener calls it you can sit
you can call it on the show and say anything you want to these
people
I know and it's pisses me off that no one no agenda listener
Don't you know makes me it makes it a no agenda listeners listen
to C span and they refuse to they don't care.
They don't care about promoting our show. They just don't care.
And I get a million emails of this must be a no agenda
listener. But no one has ever actually doing the work.
Williams up first in Athens, Ohio, democratic CALLER HI,
William.
By the way, great trick calling on the Democrat line. That's
that's the way it will you roll democratic caller Hello,
William.
Hi. Congressman. The evidence that the World Trade Centre
building seven was brought down with explosives on 911 is real
improvement.
You had me I really liked the way it gets to the point
immediately.
That'd be a real improvement.
And more and more people are waking up to it every day. How
much more trustworthy American public does Congress have to
lose before it faces reality and acknowledges the need for a new
investigation into building sevens disruption.
Now, John, you are without a doubt somewhat sceptical. But
when it comes to the World Trade Centre seven, you feel this is a
huge issue as well. How would you advise the congressman from
California to answer this question?
Well, generally speaking, I've watched I've watched this show
quite often. And generally speaking, the host of the show
cuts off the conversation right there. Oh, and I have we've had
we've played clips from the show as well, I'm sorry. But we're
not going to discuss that because we're jumping about.
I don't think the girls ever cut cut the collars off. In fact,
she she,
one of I can guy can dig up a clip where one of the girls cut
the collar off. I
believe it? Well, he's going to answer this question in probably
the worst possible way.
I don't think it needs any more investigation. I don't I don't
think that I think the way that those towers were brought down
by radical Islamic terrorist, and that's the way it is. And I
think every investigation has shown that so far.
And then she asked me is this douche bag? And she asked a
great follow up to read the 911 investigation by the committee.
No. Richard, yeah, it's great. Wait, no, it's great.
Inadequate, but I didn't read it. Vote this person out people
in California this guy, what is his name? Duncan Hunter,
Republican of California have another clip by this guy. And
he's unbelievable. He is this again, Republican from
California. This and he may be one he may be one of the
freshmen one of the new guys, I think is when he talks like
this. Well, wait until you hear him talk about it. When he gets
into this next question.
I was gonna have you respond to that Goshi ating in a religious
way.
This is about Iran and negotiations with Iran, which of
course, as a true Republican, he's going to be against
because, you know, because they're lying sacks of shit
there.
I think that he is right, to a great extent. And it's not like
we're making this up. The Iranians have have said over and
over where the great Satan where the great evil are gonna wipe
Israel off of the face of the earth.
Okay, hold on. Can we get the find the clips, the Iranians
apparently said, We're the great Satan. We are the great evil or
does he mean America? It's confusing because it's
in the Middle Eastern culture. It is looked upon with very high
regard to get the best deal possible no matter what it
takes. And that includes lying. That's That's one reason that
these gold states like to work with you, the United States,
because we're honest and transparent. And we have, we
have laws that we have to live by. Even in the business world.
They liked doing business with us as opposed to their partners,
or even the Communist Chinese to some extent because they liked
doing business with people that are honest and open and
transparent and forthright.
He's basically about to say that everybody in the world is a liar
and a cheater in all countries, especially those those a RABs
and maybe even dem Jews, if you listen to what he's saying,
they're liars. All they want is the best deal only. We want the
best deal possible. And everyone likes to work with us because
we're suckers, because we're honest engines. So
so that is that is a, I would say, an underpinning to these
negotiations once once again, if you're willing to blow yourself
up and commit suicide.
Again, this is a too much talk radio. This guy isn't in 50th
District of California, which is kind of east of San Diego is not
along the coast. It's an Escondido. Temecula is the
northernmost part in El Cajon is the southernmost part of the
rest of it. It's just a bunch of woodlands,
it gets better people,
you are not a rational person. And that's who you're dealing
with when you're dealing with the Iranians. Are you saying all
Middle East countries are this way?
She's getting good by the way. Um,
she's she's into it. I'm
really enjoying what she does. It was such a
that's why she did that question about an hour's horse. He's
trying to bring this guy down and it's working and he deserves
it willing
to lie in negotiations.
It is part of the Middle Eastern culture. The best deal you you
liars when you're arguing whether you're at the
marketplace or arguing over buying vegetables or buying
shoes in the marketplace, to do anything that you can to get the
best deal. Yeah, that's that's that's part of Middle Eastern
culture. Yep, whatever it is, I like to barter. What evidence do
you have going into the store here you know into a Vons or
Safeway and trying to barter for your food but they still do that
in the Middle East and they try to get the best deals basters
at trying to get a good deal where do we just you know we
play by the rules we look at the price tag we pay for the shop,
which is a patently untrue by the way, Mickey gets deals
everywhere. Middle Eastern liar that she is
shopper will use a rose whatever he or she has to in order to
sell something and people barter back and forth and try to get
the best deal for each other. And I think Iran is the epitome
of that because they have lied over and over and over. They are
liars. Governments lie all the time.
He's just digging deeper. Good liars. They're liars.
I asked why trust them now?
Are you speaking from personal experience talking about all
Middle East?
From personal experience? What was true I would say not
necessarily all all Middle Eastern. I know that's that's a
big generalisation. Oh,
because he's thinking oh crap, did I just say Israel to with
that? Oh, man, I'm a doe. Not all not not not all.
They do business different than we do business in the West. They
have they have markets, they like to barter, and they
could do whatever they like camels that he should have seen.
The camel reference
violence. And so if she's ever if he's ever been to the Middle
East,
he's never been ever he's never been you know, he's never been
he's this guy is the lie
he can and say whatever they can to get the best deal. Yeah,
absolutely.
Absolutely fact. So, people in California, if you have an
opportunity, you need to vote this guy out. We just have to
start calling idiots out and you need to vote them out. If you
want any kind of change ever in your life, which you're still if
you're my age, you're not going to see any real change before
you die anyway, but you might as well give your kids a chance
to speak and it just looks so full of themselves.
Speaking of changing it's another instalment a dove with
the ah yes, I
tried it out John. I tried my line about we don't want these
these douchebags at 23 me to be the Twitter of of our genome.
And I got actually I threw some emotion into it. Why? Because I
was met with a wall of silence.
Oh, well, let's see. Let's set the do the setup. Give us a
setup get first degree introduce us to the dinner. Okay. And then
let's get into it.
And by the way, the dinner. There was Lori's house. This
time she made Koco man, which was a long time on our list. And
I have to say she did a or COC is great. You got a great COC
really loved it. So it was you know the the artist and her and
her husband and the
youth she cooked a rooster you telling me? Yeah,
exactly. The cargo van. The rooster in wine. It was it was
no it was it was a great dinner and we talked about a whole
bunch of stuff. And then it came out because they were all like
anticipating that was really I think I'll just hold them back
and like I was tired to Sunday after the show, you know? So it
can be it's very dangerous. They were anticipating watch to me to
start saying sounds stupid now about how it's so great. The FDA
shutdown 23 And me and I saw
it differently. And I anticipated this conversation
Yeah, yeah. Last thing I didn't anticipate.
No, they in fact, there was emails before the dinner like,
ooh, we're ready for it. Oh, yeah. Okay. And they take I
think they're taking some offence to the robot thing at
this point actually.
Oh, why?
Don't know, Mickey email out. Hey, next OB dinner is in our
house and in the subject line. I'm like, okay and one of them
goes like Hey, I just noticed you put OB in your calling I did
these dinners OB now
Okay, anyway, like Don't say like Obama anymore?
I don't know. That's what I'd ask. But he's What's wrong with
being called an Obama bot. You're just you're a loyal
follower of Isaac.
I also explained to them I said, You're my friends. Your Obama
bots, Obama. tardes is something completely different. That's,
that's bad. That's bad. Yeah, you're not that you my friends.
Anyway, so we got into it a little bit. And I was met with
silence. I'm like, don't you understand that? We've we've
seen this movie before.
Is you say that to be met with silence.
I said, I said, I said, I'm not against genetic testing. I said,
The problem I have is with Silicon Valley companies taking
our data and turning it into a walled garden for their own
profit, just like so. You know, saying that 23andme democratises
health care. It's like saying Twitter and Facebook,
democratise freedom of speech, which is just not true. It's
like the analogy Yeah. Would probably stun the artists that
were stuck in. Oh, my God, what are you gonna do?
They were stunned, but they didn't quite get it. And but
here's here's, and I got emotional. I'm like, because I
was also tired. I was tired. Like, you can't allow this to go
any further. Yeah, but you know, it's simple. We need companies
to do these things, is it not? If there's a market for people
who want genetic testing, the the price will come down and
give us our own data? Do you have to do these things in open
source? You have to decentralise things. We have to decentralise
our social networks. We have to decentralise our money. This is
the worst thing no one sees it well, the people who listen to
no agenda, see it, they understand that the
centralization of money through electronics is it is horrible.
It is that is slavery, which you know, of course not supposed to
use the word slave anymore. But that is that is true slavery,
where you don't control your own money isn't the same thing with
this. You can't trust these guys. And they're gonna they're
gonna use your data against you. And then they get bought and
it's gotten to you. We've done this before. No more cheat
mirrors and trinkets and getting something you think something of
value, you're not getting the value. Anyway. So this went on
for a while. And yeah, so at the dinner and it was a beautiful
dinner and we talked about other things. It was great. But then
the next day, the professor who would you know, he's the senior
brain professor here at UT. Neurology. He's the golden boy
of the University of Texas. He sends me an email says you know
what? You inspired me with your with your little soliloquy, and
I'm off of Mac OSX I'm installing Linux. I like that I
like okay, it's kind of a jump
a leap but okay, I
think that's fantastic. Well, no, because that's part of part
of the conversation is we have to use Apple is going to is
totally screwing up Mac. He actually had a good line to the
iOS ification of OSX. Which I totally agree with.
Well, yeah, well look at what Windows is doing. Windows is the
is the phone ification of the desktop machine. Yeah, I want a
phone operating system on my desktop with a big giant
array, you'll take that and you're like it with those big
tiles. It's for you put on your glasses, big tiles like but
exactly. So he installed What do you say installed? I have to
look up which Which flavour he installed. And I was like, okay,
so So I want this that's a little ding in the armour. I
think that's fancy. Hey, you know what if he does it, his
grad students will do it and before you know it starts to
spread.
Yeah, they need to use Photoshop.
No one needs to use Photoshop the way you do John.
Well, be that it is me but not you mentioned that the
decentralisation we Maya jumped to the next topic in a row to go
in as you're jumping from thing to thing. Go to better than
cash.org and look at the founders. Okay,
better than cash not or. This doesn't sound good. Better than
cash. Is this a boy
worldwide initiative to get us off of cash My
goodness accelerating the shift to digital payments. Wow. To
who? Oh, oh founders Bill and Melinda Gates, Citigroup, US AI
D. O. It's a rotating banner, un cdf, which is the microfinance
capital O Omidyar Network. Visa. Oh my goodness, the Ford
Foundation that one of the just call better than cash. It's the
new world order.org. That would be easier to remember. What's a
good website? This is not a great website
latest yet all these people that are natives that are let's get
rid of cash, because, you know, of course, I always like to
think just for starters, think of a think of a $10 bill at the
flea market.
Right and a $10 bill about the Austin market at the farmers
market not okay, that's
a $10. Bill. I take my $10 and I buy some chicken from the
chicken guy and I give him $10 I take the chicken,
you get $2 change in Austin.
Well, no, we're gonna do this round numbers. Okay. So now I
take the chicken, he takes the $10 bill and goes by some spices
with somebody else at $10. It goes the other guy. And then the
$10 floats around the farmer's market buying stuff. Sometimes
taxes involved. Sometimes it's not whatever the case is the $10
stays intact. At the end of the day, when you don't have cash.
Every one of these little transactions cost is 2% out of
the $10. So pretty soon it's like you know, versus two cents
and 20 cents says two bucks. After the $10 bill goes around
and all this all the real money that's gone. It's gone. It now
belongs to Visa and MasterCard and these other douchebags how
is this good?
Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's really, really pathetic. And
people just, there's no education of what's good. There
were a couple of I think maybe wasn't maybe three, four years
ago, we talked about these videos that were floating around
the net that kind of went viral that showed you how money
worked. And then it was kind of like a big conveyor belt. And
then it always be like one human resource per minute that would
fall off into like the meat grinder. Because that's how it
works with the digital money. It's totally, it's so wrong.
It's so incredibly wrong. And particularly this microfinance
business, which is what Pierre Omidyar the Omidyar Network is
involved in we I think we talked about this one or two shows ago.
Yes. It's the microfinance that they've put into Haiti as well.
It's not good because it's essentially getting people on
board with a debt programme and and debt is, well, yeah, it's
the way our it's the way our economy is built in our system.
But it kind of enslaved everybody. Or,
situation for most cultures, unless you have to be weak we do
it well, because United States is a business oriented, a
mercantile oriented society. The sociology of works, everything
is perfect. We can be in massive debt, we know how to deal with
it, we know how to, you know, trick our way out of it. We know
how to leverage we know everything. And there's people
out there that can just get by with really no income, and they
just play with money, and they know how they're how to do it,
right. This is not the case with some sub Saharan African tribe.
They don't know what the hell's going on. I mean, this is you,
we take none of this into account. Well, let's just make
them let's put them in debt. And see that is how well they're
gonna do. I mean, it's ridiculous. And then you do it
this way, where you don't even really in debt, because there's
no money involved. There's a card, here's a card, it's got
value you when you take it in, and they watch, what do I do
with this? Where's the magical? I mean, the whole thing is
ridiculous. And to push this then Gates Foundation, what have
they got to do with this sort of business? I thought they were
trying to do in polio and in malaria, what is it got to do
with this? I'm asking you, well,
nothing other than that Bill Gates has a lot of money or a
lot of money on paper. Therefore, he's very smart.
Therefore whatever he says, which is basically Melinda with
his hand up his tight ass is great. I can't think of any
other thing. Here it is for founding members of funding
members actually on this better than cash is how I hope
someone's recording a backup of the show. I just hit record. How
good is that? A guided by the belief that every life has equal
value. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation works to help
all people lead healthy, productive lives in developing
countries that focuses on improving people's health with
vaccines and other life saving tools and giving them the chance
to lift themselves out of hunger and extreme poverty. That's
where your micro Fenske finance comes in. And then in the United
States, it seeks to significantly improve education
so all young people have the opportunity to reach their full
potential like Bill. based in Seattle, Washington. The
foundation is led by CEO Jeff Raikes and co chair William H.
Gaines gates senior The eugenicist under the direction
of Bill and Melinda Gates and Warren Buffett. It didn't even
say anything about the microfinance
there's a lot of pitches in here that are kind of interesting,
but the whole thing is that it said Jeff Raikes was in this was
Jeff Raikes he run he runs the Bill Melinda Gates fellow yet
actually retired okay our vision and goals empower people by
accelerating the shift to electronic payments
there's a video on the on the homepage of Bill talk in which a
punch it up featured video on the bottom right in the middle
so John I literally forgot to record like the first 10 minutes
of the show and you know why is because you did a hit it before
I was ready to hit it and I wasn't ready and I didn't record
Oh, it's my fault. Well, yeah.
Okay, where's the video? I don't see a video
says right here featured video see resources? Yeah. Now in
featured video, did you look at this? No. I can't can't probably
couldn't handle
it. Hey, we got the punch line. Why don't you call the NSA for
recording? Oh, Dick. started slow to start.
This is vital. There was there was a new the new NSA. Well, we
can talk about that later. But
it's these guys are. So here we go. I'm listening. I don't hear
anything. Oh.
Good afternoon. It's great to see the attendance here. This is
a kind of a new initiative, and yet already gaining a lot of
momentum. I'm in New York this week in a broad sense, to
celebrate the good news story about the incredible progress
against the fight against global poverty. It's very interesting
because every setback we have in this is a news headline but the
gradual year by your progress that's led us to achieve em.
Okay, you
can kill it. Yeah, this is dumb. You just killed us yak forever.
Yeah, as the saying nothing.
Well, I can kind of transition from this into the two central
bankers came out on the same day, and essentially said the
same thing. The former centre chief of the Central Bank of the
Netherlands, the Netherlands bank. Now Villa link said, Oh,
this Bitcoin. This is nothing more than tulip mania, except at
the end of the day, you had a tulip. And I need to say
something about that
good line. Well, no. Other people do this tulip thing that
you know, that's just crazy. Well, I was interesting that
Beanie Babies is something we all remember
I but I want to I did some research on the tulip thing. And
this it's a little different than the way we remember it.
There's a book which serve under helm had some scan pages,
somehow he gave it to me. And it you know, this comparison,
essentially, whenever someone whenever there's a bubble, they
say, Oh, this like the Dutch tulip craze. And I think some
history is warranted about the what that actually was. I mean,
what do you the way you understand that, John, is, is
that the Dutch tulip craze was just people went crazy about a
non product and the bubble burst. And that was it. I mean,
do you have any new lack
are very popular, and they were being bred to be certain ways
and certain tools became very valuable. And then there was a
shortage in the market. And then people began would happen when
people began to speculate on the bulbs. And once that happened,
that, you know, it was it was doomed, but it was, well that
was a was definitely a craze.
So that let me tell you what actually happened. This was not
so much about the bubble as it was about the trading that was
going on. Now. This is the 1630s there were hardly there was
there was no CNBC. There were no newspaper, they had pamphlets,
which are kind of like flyers, and people would print something
up and hand it out. But what happened this was the they had
commodities trade in the Netherlands kind of invented the
stock market. And this was a part of that. Because what
happened with these with these tulip trades, is people were not
taking possession of the bulb or the flower just a contract and
that was something that was new. And by the way, in order to
understand the history like this, you have to get the Dutch
texts which I am able to read so it's kind of unique that I can
explain this to you because I read through the Dutch copy of
of what really went down so this was something that was new, is
people would buy a tulip and they would only get a piece of
paper that was you know the bulk of this.
Yes, by the way I want to interrupt anytime you have some
new technology that tape or some new mechanism financial
mechanism that makes it look as though you can make a lot of
money. People jump on it because they see you bitcoin is probably
I think is a good example. Now to bring this up.
This part of it is yes, this is exactly my point. So people were
are in it to make money on the transaction instead of making
money on the commodity itself. This is this is where there was
a big difference. Now. There was a lot of trouble with these
flowers that were hard to identify. There were a lot of
mistakes being made and a lot of fraud. But in 1936, one of these
pamphlets, again, very few newspapers, if any floated
rumours that the state was considering taxing the tools was
in
1830s, or 1630 1636. I'm sorry, what did I say? You said 1936.
And by the way, if you notice, what you said was 1936, which is
exactly Yeah, exactly. 400
or 300 years later. Yeah. Interesting. So 1636, one of
these pamphlets floated rumours the state was considering taxing
this trade, because they weren't really trading or buying
commodities. It was, it was like a kind of like a transaction tax
is what they were looking at, on February 3 1637, is when the
first bad auction took place in Harlem. And there were
essentially no buyers. On February 24, and Amsterdam,
there was a big meeting, all the traders got together and they
said, Okay, you know what, we've got to unwind all this, every
trade after November 30 of Snite 1636 can be unwound for a 10%
fee on on the actual transaction. Of course, you
know, the big guys didn't really get hurt, but some of the little
guys got through it. And so it's kind of kind of like a bailout.
One of the early bailouts. But why did this happen? And all the
texts say that there is a very clear parallel of the plague.
The plague, of course, in the 1600s was like, you know, it
happened. But the peak of the, of the tulip mania trade
coincided with the peak of the black plague where 30% of cities
were literally dying. And in 1636, before this, this bad
auction 12 or 14 of the big tulip traders died of the plague
and their kids or their family or other people within their
organisation took over the trade. So it's not that crazy to
think that when you have like the backup guy running the trade
or someone who hasn't doesn't know anything about this trading
at all come into this and there's plague and people are
dying and people you know, it's a weird time. That is was really
the impetus for this to fall apart not so much that all of a
sudden people realise that tulip wasn't worth anything which to
this day is not true. A tulip is definitely worth money just
wasn't worth the kind of money they were paying for it at the
time. So the the crash really coincided with the new people
coming in after the plague wiped out the original traders and
that's the part that is it's iffy at best to say that there's
a bubble it always pops it always goes this way it's it's
overvalued. And it's not the only comparison that's fair, I
think you're right is that it's a trade based upon the value of
the trade and what you can make and selling the ownership paper
on instead of the actual
speculation always causes these issues Exactly. But it's also a
cycle and I think that the tulip cycle it fell right on one of
the cusps so it would it was the people were ripe for it because
there's always opportunities to do these sorts of things but
people have to be in the right mood to actually do them and by
the way for tourists out there when you go to Amsterdam and you
want to get some of these days some cool tulips and also these
giant whatever they're called. I can't remember the name of them
this big bowl but makes a huge flower for sale along the water
in a bunch of shops and you can get some cool tulips but make
sure you go to the shop that has the the approved for export
tulips and bulbs because otherwise you won't be able to
get them in the US but if you get them you get the box with
the bulbs in it that has an all I could tell the guy goes in the
back puts the bulbs in a box just takes the box up and puts
the stamp on there's the same bulbs yeah but it's beside the
point. So I when I came in with some bulbs from Amsterdam once I
went to customs I specifically took one of them aside and and
showed him the bulbs and I said is this did I do this right was
this how you supposed to do she says yes to many people don't do
that just just make sure you get the seal and the stamp and then
you you're good to bring anything in so you because
otherwise they don't exactly you need that you need that they'll
confiscate the bolts and put them in their own garden.
Here's former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan on the same day the
same day that this guy says to at a at a banking conference oh
this bitcoin is nothing. GREENSPAN says something very
comparable and of course Just as always with bad news for Bitcoin
the price always goes up. It's a phenomenal thing that's
happening. Thoughts on this. Did you hear that? By the way? Can
you do what you just did? Wow. What are your thoughts?
Yeah, it's a little it's like a yodel.
Thoughts on this is Bitcoin in fact a bubble?
I guess. So. Let me say that. I get well, let
me let me talk for a little bit to bore you but okay, to be
exchangeable. Well, he says some very interesting things here,
John, and I want you to catch him because he said, he's
leaving the door open in a big way.
currencies to be exchangeable have to be backed by something.
When we had were on the gold standard, gold and silver had
intrinsic value. And people would be willing to exchange
their goods and services for gold or silver. And wouldn't ask
any questions of where the money's came from.
Alternatively, when we went into currencies, it was the backing
of the issuer of the currency. In other words, if some
individual had great credit, standing checks could circulate
as money. But the question is, do
you hear what he's saying? He says, if some individual had a
lot of money, and yeah, and he issued paper, his checks, they
could be, they could be used as money. And the first time he
says it, I'm like, okay, but he keeps bringing this up. I
do not understand where the backing of Bitcoin is coming
from. There is no fundamental issue of capabilities of
repaying anything which is universally acceptable, which is
either intrinsic value of the currency, or the credit or trust
of the individual who is issuing the money.
So he's saying this again, I think what he's doing here,
John, if I just dissect this, he's saying that if, let's say,
I don't know Pierre Omidyar if Pierre Omidyar released a
cryptocurrency, which was backed by Pierre Omidyar, that that
would be a valid currency. But it could be Peter Thiel, it
could be Warren Buffett, it could be any of his cronies, why
it could be the better than cash.org people for all we know,
whether it's a government
or an individual. And He says it again, he keeps saying
individual
individuals with very high net worth and great reputations
could create their own currency because people would be willing
to exchange that you
got to put this in the book, John keys, he's promoting some
kind of currency that's coming out backed by individuals of
great wealth.
Well, I mean, it's not different than it seems to me. It used to
be cheques used to be kind of like currency, because you could
have third party checks, you could sign it over to somebody
he'd sign it over, somebody else have a bunch of names on the
back of the money would float around as a check. So this is
not really new. And most of the banks had their own currencies
until the 1800s. That you'd go to the Bank of South Carolina
would would issue currency which competed with the local
government could issue currency. So they actually pass laws
against a lot of this kind of thing. That's why I think the
rent the Ron Paul coins got busted, because they were immune
to Liberty coin,
the Liberty dollar.
But listen to this list.
Let me finish. I don't see how it's any different than it is
kind of currency when you have common stock of an individual. I
mean, David Bowie is a public company. Right? Remember the
public his his publisher, his published work is a bond.
Okay. It's a bond but that's that can be passed around like,
yeah, got some value? Yes. Absolutely not shocked by any
this now. He just keeps saying individuals as though you know,
Peter Omidyar is going to
Peter print money. He may be even Pierre Omidyar, you never
know. Well, but if you look at because this I was surprised.
Besides Bitcoin we have Litecoin Peercoin name coin ya coin Nova
coin prime coin feather coin and Nona coin court coin. Oh, and a
lot of these are VC backed. I think someone's trying to make a
move. And I think he's in on it checks
with others probably at par. Well, is it not the case with
Bitcoin not the case of the Could it be the new gold? Not
really backed by anything?
Is she listening to him at all?
No, she has a list of questions on the prompter and and she's
someone's yelling in her ear. We got 110
Isn't
backed by gold is gold. There is no physical as a physical
product as a physical element in the in the sitting on my desk.
His answer is no Bitcoin that can do this.
I think his answers may be dumber. Then the question
actually,
no, well see that it has to it has to have intrinsic value. You
have to really stretch your imagination to infer what the
intrinsic value of that coin is. I haven't been able to do it.
Maybe somebody else can you ask me, Is this a bubble in Bitcoin?
Yeah, it's a bubble.
It's a bubble. And I ride nasheed all the way to 10,000.
You hope I saw you even use my 10,000 number on
I'm the one who came up with the 10,000 number and told you to
stick to your guns, right? I don't think that's true, but
that's okay. You're gonna sell it 1000 You said it doesn't hit.
I did not. I said it will be 1000 by the end of the year. I
never said I was going to sell it at 1000 ever. In fact, I said
I was going to do a daily source code and I would keep all the
money and keep it transparent. Everyone can follow my
blockchain and you know how much money I got for doing a show
like $4 in Bitcoin which proves to me that either everyone's
lying that they liked the show possible. Or this is no one's
using these as a as a store of value.
Horror was dropped a bitcoins thing on the DHS play. We got
six bucks, so we beat your ass. Oh, that's and then we kick your
butt. You did
six bucks.
So what's wrong with this picture?
But what's wrong with that picture of all the yay who's and
I'll call him out who kept going on oh, you know, I would have I
would give you guys money. This is we had two kinds of people
that helps contribute to the show. One of them's that none of
them ever do. One of them is always telling us that if we
didn't solicit money, they'd give us money. Okay, fine. Yeah,
right. And the other one is that if we put Bitcoin if we took
Bitcoin Yeah, it was money.
Oh, immediately Yeah, would they be
pouring it we'd be getting tonnes of money because they're
there we were take Bitcoin This is bull crap.
The problem with Bitcoin at this point and I saw one of the
people and I'm moving to M BTC you know, because they the
problem when you get this these numbers like 1000 in order to
keep the the price going up, you have to do a stock split. You
have to bring it down to where people think that they can you
know, of course don't please don't email me about any of what
I'm saying. I'm not interested in your opinion anymore about
Bitcoin just not Yes, I know. It's the visible blahdy blahdy
blahdy blah
I think there was a smallest unit as a Sumerian
I really don't I don't I'm not interested. I'm also not
interested in your theories about Paul Walker's death by the
Illuminati. I'm just not I have enough of it. No, I haven't.
I've enough.
I'm interested in that one. Okay, I'll be happy
to bring it to you. But we have you have so the rebranding of
Bitcoin down to M M coin or whatever, you need a better
name. To that you need to you need to reverse stock splits so
that people can get in again at the $1 level. You need a new a
new nominator. Yeah. denomination, you need a new
thing. And until that happens, it just is not gonna go
stratospheric, if
you go 1000 to one split, so you have to become a that's, that's
the nbtc
but they don't want the name is it's a small m big B big T Big C
in the middle. Oh, this isn't gonna go away.
Once but you know what? One thing that will never change. Is
that I want to thank you for your courage and say in the
morning to you John C. Dvorak.
Well, I was about time in the morning to you Adam curry in the
morning all ships to see boots on the ground feet in the air
subs in the water all the days and nights out there.
And thank you very much Martin. JJ. He sent me an email he says
no worries got your ass covered. I've got the recording of the
first bit of the show. No worries. Thank you so much.
That's it's funny. For all the people
in the JJ artists doing recording the show.
Martin JJ he's like a backup parachute. Know the one that in
the little bundle?
That when I got to meet him once? Oh, really? I haven't met
him. I don't think he was up at the twit cottage.
Oh, really? Yeah. What does he do? Artists.
It's an artist.
Now it was not Martin. JJ, who we want to thank for the
previous shows artwork that was guessing no, I'm
sorry. I met Nick Duran. That's what I thought. Yeah, I'm sorry.
Yeah,
we know about him.
I've met the same first it's not I've
met Nick. I met Nick and Nick in New Jersey. Nick's a great guy.
So guesses gissy Symone. And unheard of artist I didn't we
pull something from the from the evergreens for
evergreen and then I guess she removed it or put it up into the
regular part which was Not necessary. We do look at the
Evergreen Zoo. Yes. If people come up with some crazy idea and
they just throw it in the evergreens we have one time we
ply believe we ploughed through all the evergreens and to come
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It's just no every time I've sent out a longer than usual
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No, it is I think I've become a fan of marketing through email.
I don't know why but I see email newsletters have gotten really
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It should work I'm suppose it works out. I'm only the
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I'm thinking some sometimes I have a thought like maybe I
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protocol that still works. Until the dark mail people come in and
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Yeah, well nothing's getting fixed anytime soon. From what I
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merit and Finca femme COVID famco Yeah, like Yeah, Femke
Johansson like the actress femme. Oh, that's
the one she paid. She's famous. She played on a top Bond
girl. Yeah, the Bond girl.
She's quite attractive. Yeah. Keep up the good work
as well, by the way, but she hasn't aged that well since the
movie. Oh,
no, it happens. I like a little she has a she loves to just get
those Eastern European genes which don't do well. I like a
little girl Shut up slave Oreos are more addictive than cocaine
from my wife Jamie. And how about George Clooney as a spy?
I'm sorry, I keep hearing noise I'm not sure if what was going
on. What was what did he want?
Alright, he wants logo shut UPS slave. Oreos are more addictive
than cocaine. Cod. And George Clooney is a spy. Okay, well
this is he just wants to hear cool stuff. Yeah. are really are
jingles.
where's the where's the Oreos? I have the Oreos? I got that one.
Having trouble finding the oh maybe it's under the Clooney spy
and then little was it little girl? Yay. Yeah. Oh my god is
and all of that wrapped into karma. No doubt. I really didn't
say karma will do. Rios are just as addictive as cocaine is a
spy. You've got karma. Kern nailed it.
It is so funny.
The George Clooney is a spy.
Yeah, I don't know why. I don't know why that clip is so funny.
But it's just funny.
Well, it's you know and these this is why our show is so
great. Is
this is George Clooney comes out. Yeah, tweeted this, of
course. And it says everyone who uses Twitter's in a moron. Yeah.
And the whole thing is stupid.
Did you read the whole Esquire article?
No, I didn't. Like that guy like that. Duncan guy. I told you I
don't read anything. I just whatever rumour goes around I
manically
Exactly. Well, there you go. Well, thank you very much to our
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Thanksgiving time period. And I'm always amazed because what
where's everybody else from the rest of the world? They stopped
listening. It's just it. They don't have Thanksgiving. Maybe
they're all influenced by what's happening in our media that
everyone goes through.
It might be true, because all they do all the network TV
normal series is all on vacation. This particular week,
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And the story I got emailed the most was about these, this
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And somehow this is hilarious. And this is emailed a million
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George and then open it I find it to be just kind of
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Well, I want to thank Tyler Gordon, one of our producers who
gave the proper analysis as well. Things are getting pretty
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agenda listener who fully understands the value of mac and
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Oh, it was about cheeseless
Yeah, the father didn't want to do the word there wasn't enough
cheese packets to go on to the macaroni cheese packets.
Remember, this isn't the UK they don't really know how to do mac
and cheese properly.
It just the whole of the cheddar
then doesn't mean they know what they're doing. Alright, anyway,
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Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth
shut. All right. Right now I have to go into the big news of
the week. This was anticipated, of course, the release of some
of the 911 call tapes. Yeah, like we're still recording 911
calls on tape.
It's funny how people are good one people.
This is like the tapes had been released. And then actually, the
release being filmed the release of the tapes actually said tape
one tape to know these, of course, a digital recordings.
And now there was a couple things that were interesting.
Now, of course, I listened to them, I listened to what was
released. As you know, none of the evidence of the Sandy Hook
shooting is actually evidence of a shooting. It's a lot of
evidence about Adam Lanza is home and all this stuff. But the
interesting was all of the news outlets, except ultimately, CNN,
I think, who played a little bit, refused to play the tapes,
which of course made me highly interested in hearing how
important the stuff the information was. That's on these
tapes. So let us just go down a quick list here. We have now
I'll start with a member I get to do some MSNBC stuff now. And
although I've been banned, I've been banned from playing
anything by him. I'm bringing it out because you know, I could
use it. I could do it now.
Oh, no. You weren't banned from playing for anything by quoting
him. I was
banned from playing anything by Touray.
Oh, I thought it'd be I will you are banned from playing anything
from Rachel.
I have that too. So yeah,
you're right. You're right. It was Tory here's hooray. Oh,
wait, you recorded this. Assuming you're going to be
unbanned when you're actually haven't been? Correct. The band
that you gave me for? I forgot what it was now.
You don't even know if you've got even know what the band was.
I'll remember it eventually. It'll come
to me dammit. Here's to re explaining why why they're not
playing these 911 calls
for developing news this afternoon on the cycle within
the past hour, authorities released a handful of 911 calls.
A handful from inside Sandy Hook Elementary School just 10 days
out from the first anniversary of one of the deadliest mass
shootings in American history is obviously a sensitive issue for
the families lost loved ones and for many others in the
community. And for many in America, for that matter. NBC
News is currently reviewing the tapes. But for now at least we
are not we're choosing not to air them
not to air them we're choosing not to do you hear how he talked
him not to air.
Today's release ends a month's long court fight to make those
tapes. Public opponents argue the wounds are still too fresh.
But those who argued for their release say the calls may
provide insight into the way the response was handled. Perhaps
get us better prepared for future events.
Oh yes, be prepared for future events.
You know guys just because the media has something a photograph
a tape a piece of video doesn't mean that we have to release it
doesn't mean we have to say whatever we get we just put it
out and let the people decide how they feel about it. We make
decisions
and this is what's so interesting that this new shift
is happening the same time where the yes he's a douche. There's
there's a CCTV footage of Paul Walker's car crashing bulb
bursting into flames. There's pictures there's there's
everything is on it except for the burnt to a crisp body. But
every picture is out there
but what to air what to broadcast every single day.
And we're talking about audio. We're talking about people
calling up we're not talking about pictures or video we're
talking about 911 calls of people calling, perhaps in
distress. And,
you know, we have to ask, is this valuable for the public
good? Does it advance the story? does it enhance the narrative?
does it enhance our understanding of what happened
in a given situation?
When did he become Knight of morality? Why is this happening?
I can only think of a few things and one of them is they're meant
to shut up and not play this because well perhaps there's
nothing on it or it's really unimportant thing
on or somebody who's you know they call it they did there was
no emotion didn't make any sense. All the things that have
been uncovered by the YouTubers that have gone over most of this
evidence with a fine tooth comb Much, much of the much of the
stuff they've uncovered is quite interesting.
Well, here's Rachel. Now Rachel did a 20 minute segment about
she started off with AI turned. She started off with how the New
York Times published a picture on September 12 2001 of some I'm
on jumping from the World Trade Centre. And you know how this
this whole thing about the responsibility of the media and
it's so hard and doing journalism is hard and making
the hard, tough decisions. It's so hard. Oh, it's so hard. We
don't know this is now this the day before the tapes are
released. We're gonna have the vapours. Exactly. She is so
insincere about this, it is
a very, very uncomfortable thing.
It's a little uncomfortable. So she has not heard the tapes, the
tapes not released until the next day already. She's
already she's uncomfortable, yes, but it is part of why the
job of a free and responsible press. It's not just an
important thing in a democracy. It's a hard thing.
It's hard, John, don't think that you can be a free press in
a democracy, not you Dvorak because it's hard. And it's
really complicated. And it's disturbing, and you may not have
the balls for it, my friend,
and it's a hard job and it is hard to do. Well, it's not hard,
Rachel
hard. It's hard to remember George, what's going on?
The people who do it to be worthy of the responsibility
that they
have. Are you worthy of the responsibility because I'm about
to play some of these tapes. John, I hope you're worthy of
that responsibility that huge responsibility.
Tomorrow morning, in a law office in Danbury, Connecticut,
the news media will get access to the tapes of the 911 phone
calls that were made in Newtown, Connecticut on the morning of
the Sandy Hook Elementary school shootings. The State of
Connecticut and the prosecutor's office and representatives of
the victim's families say they did not want those tapes to ever
become available to the public for but the Associated Press
sued to get access to the tapes goes horrible Associated Press
people and the judge ruled in their favour and the appeals
were dropped. And so tomorrow morning in Connecticut, the
media for the first time will get those tapes. And then what
and then what? And now it's up to the good judgement of the
media to decide whether those tapes should be publicly
broadcast whether what they will add to the public understanding
of the Sandy Hook massacre outweighs the additional
pointless trauma that playing those tapes publicly will
undoubtedly cause to the families and the survivors in
New Towns forgive
me if I'm wrong jump but didn't we did hear over and over again,
the so called tapes from the cell phones on the 911
aeroplanes and phone calls from people on the 98th floor. I
mean, over and over again the biggest tragedy in American
history and now all of a sudden, we have the the dame of
morality. The dame she's on her white moral horse named morality
riding through the desert of morality to
stop giving us all kinds of imagery here.
Again, it wasn't Associated Press lawsuit that brought about
the tomorrow morning. It's interesting and all of the APS
own news stories about their own efforts to get access then she
goes into Okay, so I'm gonna stop that there but even Algis
zero won't play the tape recordings
of a 911 calls from Sandy Hook Elementary School. The shooting
there were released earlier today, the audio reveals a
mixture of calm and anguish as town dispatchers urged panicked
callers to take cover as gunshots could be heard at times
in the background Al Jazeera America will not play those
audio recordings.
Why not out of all the people who should be playing it please
listen to the curry Devorah Consulting Group someone needs
to play these things to get some ratings. You have morons or
you're on you're completely
right. I think this one this is the point really? LG has zero
nobody knows or even on anymore I mean they're they're on Al
Jazeera America is on the current network. Nobody's ever
watched that network or cares. And nobody watches Al Jazeera. I
mean, I always forget about about him and I I'm doing all
kinds of clips I've got I've got some some news from Tezuka Stan
some network, but I don't watch Algis there. I tried to but I
keep forgetting about it. They need to get some attention. They
would have they would have run this and been the only network
to run it that everyone would of course have been a big Oh, this
is terrible that they ran these horrible. Well, that would have
got them a lot of attention. They know this, there is no
tape.
Well, here's so I have I listened to all seven tapes. And
I was dumbfounded that the majority of the recordings are
of the acting custodian for that day. Rick Thorne who has
negative tapes. The tapes have been released and probable that
they're all over the place. Okay. Yeah, the tape and they're
in their bullshit, right?
Well listen to what I'm saying. The majority of what is on the
tapes, and I only I listened to them. I listened to them four
times. I got what you need to hear. You don't need to hear any
Hang out but the majority of the tapes are of the listen
carefully acting custodian for that day. Rick Thorne he was so
he's a fill in for that day this guy is find an interview with
him a by by any of the networks find the interview with this guy
by anybody find a print interview with this guy. non
existent this guy might as well be a zombie. Yet here he is. And
he has a very interesting way of talking. All right.
All right. What about the students in the front of the
building? Everything's locked up as far as I know.
down so he says he's not inside. Are you in lockdown
during lockdown? Did you see anything else? We're in
lockdown. Know what's going on? I can't get over that. Okay, I
don't want you to go over that. I want to know what's happening
with the students. So along the front corridor as this is in the
front parking lot. Not I'm not in the front. I'm actually on
the other side. I'm close. I'm close. Do you see anything or
hear anything more? I keep hearing shooting. Popping
popping. Jen Let's get one. Let's get one caller I'll take
my call are now who am I talking with right now? What's your
name? Redstorm. Rick, what is your position with the school?
Acting head custodian
I'm the acting head custodian for today.
What's the address of the school
for the active custodian knows that he knows the address
exactly well that was happening okay all right now when you say
the school is in lockdown during classrooms
all that he knows about everything all that he hasn't
been up front all the doors are locked including the classrooms
were in lockdown although he isn't there at this
time you're defending in place
to interesting the dispatcher I guess that's just a mistake on
the dispatchers side in place ending in place now from a
conspiratorial angle and by the way, a lot of people will hate
me for doing this but I don't care someone has to go hate you.
People be like oh that's the people who watch MSNBC and are
happy that they didn't play the tapes because it's so insulting
to the dead children John that's what that's the people who will
hate me
Oh, nobody said that to you. No, not yet. This
time all the rooms are locked. Did you see anything else before
this started? No.
No, and I was out all morning. So he even starts off the call
when I'm outside so that all of this is very shaky. Where are
you in the gym? The gym teacher just told me this is all new by
the way. The gym teacher just apparently walked up
to him as the shoot as he's outside doing what the who
knows and and someone's walking outside
Alright, guys, the worst actor ever wait
for it.
Are they running on the outside of the inside? I would say that
was the outside
they are running on the outside more than one person now.
They're still shooting
going on. And what about injuries at this time
so that so now we hear something that sounds like gunshots in the
background? We're not sure what that is.
What about injuries at this time? I don't know of any
injuries right now. Okay
can I need you to call the state police?
There was someone yelling at the acting custodian for the day
still going on.
Now listen to I did some editing for you obviously listen to some
of the language he's using in this part of the call because he
basically stays on as the eyes and ears of 911. Again, a guy
who we have never seen in an interview anywhere ever.
Do you hear any police officers at this time wreck from hearing?
I'm not seeing anybody or hearing talking. Okay. I'm
sitting in the middle of this corridor.
How unlikely he's standing in the middle of the corridor the
shooting going on make sense
outside
Well, this well that's what he said first, and now he's inside.
Listen to he's like I'm the custodian on the custodian.
Listen to this. Podium custodian, 60s
reentering
custodian tell him you're on the phone with me. I'm on the phone
with dispatch.
Okay. Now this is a big problem for me. If I'm the custodian,
and I'm saying I like custodian, custodian, and then I'm, I would
say, I'm on the phone with 911.
I agree. You only use that term generally speaking, if you work
within the government in an agency, that's what you you're
driving around in some cars. Yeah, got dispatch on the top
say, yeah,
so he may be an ex cop, but we don't know this because we've
never heard from this guy. What?
Yeah, it could be an ex cop. Something like that. But we
don't know. How many? How many?
She said to down to down. He's like, okay. Is it safe?
So nobody
anybody go on there? I, Rick, Rick, I'm gonna let you go. You
go with them.
For the state police.
He's now telling him to call the state police. That's why does he
I mean, I didn't hear anyone tell him to do that. I've been
notified. notified. I'm gonna keep doing
I actually told him this call the state police law earlier to
okay, why the State Police?
Well, I don't know, as part of the protocol now. So that was
do I did the temporary janitors protocol. Yes, that's
exactly yes. Yes. Hello, don't you haven't you read the acting
janitor for the day protocol book. Okay, so here's another
part of interesting protocol. And by the way, this is the
worst you'll hear on these tapes is that it's the only shooting
that's on any of these recordings. And there's one we
don't know but who she was was shot in the foot. And this is
her demeanour on the phone call. This is how she how upset she is
by what has happened by being shot in the foot. And the fact
that the police calls into dispatch and just puts her on
the phone is very strange to me
I got an
even shot once in the fight she's okay. Rule number one.
Rule number one one shot and ruin the one
guys arriving on so this is this is the state police calling him
I've got one shot you know, he's not freaking out. He's not like
oh, there's there's 20 people dead. This kid's bleeding all
over the place. I got this lady she shot in the foot here. How
long till you guys like Get over here?
How close are you guys email shot in the foot. You got a
female party shot in the foot. Right by the playground. I know
that. Okay, where? Where are you? Are you okay? Right now?
Okay,
just put it on the phone.
Where? Where's room? One in the school? In the playground? Where
are you seeing the playground? On the playground? facing
towards the playground. Are you safe right now? I think so. My
classroom doors not locked
with the state police. What I don't know if I'm safe. My
classroom doors not locked. The State Police is standing right
next to her. I'd be like yeah, I got a guy with a gun here. I got
the police with me. I feel pretty safe.
Okay, is there anybody that can lock the classroom door without
being safe? To do so. Okay. Stay where you are. Okay. Children in
this room. Okay. Try to apply pressure. Okay. Okay, we have
people come in. Okay. All right. Is there any other teacher with
you in there is just students.
There's two other adults in the room. All right.
Are they? Are they right next to you? Where are they in the room?
No, they're over on the other side of the bookshelf. Okay. All
right. Are you okay? Right now? For now hopefully. Okay.
I don't understand. There was like a madman running around
shooting 100 rounds in five minutes killing children and
teachers left and right. Everyone so calm. So
here's the reason I realised listening to this. Why MSNBC and
even Al Jazeera because it doesn't fit the story doesn't
fit the story. And it's and they're boring. Yes. So you make
him exciting by saying Oh, yes, exactly. Oh, listen to our show
should think about this. Yeah, talking to the mic. They have
been telling us that these tapes are so horrible journalistic
consideration. They had to expunge them, they couldn't play
them because we
it was your 14 years out too upsetting,
too upsetting. And so you play the tapes, which nobody
apparently wants to do, for the obvious reasons, they're boring.
They're not upsetting, and they don't fit the scenario. And by
the way, I do want to talk a little bit about the scenario.
And
before how I've one more, one more than I want to hear what
you have to say, this is a little a little thing from
Andrea Mitchell, who is talking to one of the so called Mothers
of Sandy Hook, who, of course, they don't want any of this
publicity. We don't want it. We don't want any of this, please
stay away from us. No 911 calls, but we'll be there on December
14, and we go against all the gun regulation or go for the gun
regulation. So Andrew Mitchell, she says something very
interesting here when I ask you about
the reports from the investigating group on Adam
Lanza, his mother, and the fact that she was getting him another
gun that he was apparently such a mentally challenged child to a
young man. And that her way apparently, it's hard to tell
because there's no survivors here for that family. But her
way of reaching out to him was,
I'm sorry, no survivors from that family. How about his dad?
How about his so called brother Ryan Lanza? Oh, yeah, I'm sorry.
They're all on the same cruise ship with Edward Snowden
stripper girlfriend who we also can't interview and the acting
head custodian. This is such an insult. Such an insult for Pete
for someone like Rachel mad cow to say that she's a journalist
and all this integrity when they're doing nothing because
they're either in on it. They're in on it and they are horrible,
horrible people.
I don't know that they're in on it, then they are just stupid.
There you go. I think you're finally getting it.
It's really insulting John.
There's no way she's in on it. She goes she can't do it. I
mean, it's just we have if you go to YouTube and I sent that
link, I mean, there's there's one we had this one hour and a
half
let me explain this one thing when John C. Dvorak is sending
me YouTube videos and saying wow, this is some good analysis
what do you think then something is amiss with the real story
time something is wrong so
I'm so I had some thoughts about this because I was concerned
about all the YouTube videos and the deconstruction of this
happening everywhere to an extreme of all the things events
have happened the Navy shooting man he wasn't that much nobody
got into it the what was a couple other these events the
Boston bombing thing a little bit
possible. We have we still to date, along with the governor of
Massachusetts have yet to see the footage the video footage
that exists according to all sources of the brothers putting
the backpack into the trash can moments before it exploded.
We have the LAX situation which is another phoney baloney deal.
There were too many things don't make sense. We have that crazy
cop. These are all on the cycle. By the way, the crazy cop that
was going to start sniping all the LA Police Department who
burned to death in a cabin in the woods. Do you
know that it's been confirmed that he committed suicide? Oh,
he
committed suicide then burn to a crisp and so on and then they
don't I got these perfectly pristine weapons that he had
cash Dorner Dorner wasn't one burn mark on any of them. They
weren't smoking. Yeah, and then when we had the we had the the
the bomber the crotch bomber when we when we first played the
when that occurred which was a couple years ago. During
Christmas we played clips from people who were in st whether
we're filming it
lawyers who are who wanted to testify actually testify in
court to say hold on a second that's not how it went down. And
we saw this guy walk walk him on to the plane you know he got he
had no visa no passport they put him right on some some dude who
the whole thing was fishy. Hold on. Here's your Dorner thing. 20
seconds. Here's
the man who declared war on Los Angeles police killed himself.
An autopsy shows Christopher Dorner died from a gunshot wound
to the head. We're also hearing Dorner hid in a condo very close
to the command post set up to find him. He took off after
tying up the condos owners and stealing their car. During a
last stand a cabin erupted in flames police a tear gas
canister started the fire but that was not their intention.
No they didn't tend to and he shot himself in the head after
his after his wallet was found twice in Mexico and then in
Northern California. So insulting people
Well anyway, he said we'll just push all these aside we have
this this bomber and if you recall the one curious thing
about the crotch bomber was that when they took everybody off the
plane they pushed they took them individually into a big hangar
there were separating them. Yeah So that's I believe that may be
true to kill them. But the sum was something fell apart in this
in the story. And so instead of killing them, or put it or
making them sign something and then putting them in a witness
protect, there's a million ways you can do this or to kill them
as it gets messy. Yeah, but you make media scare people. Yeah. I
mean, there was this one episode in that woman's diatribe on
YouTube that she said that it's possible that that one of the
sheriff's department guys or one of the police spokesman said you
will be prosecuted for talking about this. Remember that? Yeah.
And then and then it's possible you there may be a national
security letter of a form that we have never seen or has been
ever been revealed. Yeah, it's called the
two guys who show up with the sunglasses and the big gun in
your nose. That's kind of
maybe they just keep people to shut people up. So I was
thinking about what if this is what if this sandy hook thing
and these other things are exercises sociological
experiments on the public, we've known to the to experiment with
the public we dump chemicals,
this ideological warfare psyops, ie in the conspiratorial
psyops, which falls normally illegal, I think, have been
legalised. And so this could be a Psyops and it's in it's a
test. And what they're testing is not necessarily the
gullibility of the media, they are testing the holes, they're
testing the leak points. And so what they want is, women like
this one who went for an hour and a half, finding every little
screw up the sign behind them saying they should check in this
guy showing up here. But being over there, every little mistake
that in our show is culpable in this regard, every single
mistake that they make is being documented. So when they pull a
whopper, they'll have all the bases covered. I don't know who
to kill that Well, that too, but I don't think it's gonna go that
way. I think what they have to do is just to these are
mistakes. There are mistakes that were made. They were
setting up a press conference before the event. Yeah, there's
all sorts of things that they're doing wrong.
That was an annoying one, wasn't it?
And all the black cars apparently the whole town in
fact, there's some belief by this woman that the entire town,
maybe just all spooks? Yeah, possible. And why not? You got
to live somewhere.
Hey, we gotta like the firm.
Yeah, exactly. And so it means he's fiction does kind of
address these things in a small way. So what we might be
watching actually are just exercises in leakage. Now there
was what is the what is the here, we'll just do this, and
see what happens in do tear down the school and then get rid of
all the evidence because it could come back on the town
could be an embarrassment to somebody, whatever the case,
there are holes in the story and the story holes are getting out
there on YouTube and other places. And we hit and it's not
to get to these people, because a lot of them are pretty flaky
in the way they present this stuff. But just to see what
serious mistakes were made in the presentation of the event.
And I think that the Sandy Hook thing is the worst that they've
ever
done a very, very poor job. To very poor. I
think that Los Angeles thing was a little better. I think
you realise that? What you are saying right? That you are
actually saying this? Yeah, this is unthinkable five, six years
ago.
No, no. Now with the evidence presented to me, okay, as
opposed to just, oh, my car can run on water. Oh, okay. So,
anyway, so I'm, I'm guessing that this is a possibility.
Because if you're doing sociological experiments on the
public, and you just want to see how they react to horrible
situations, then you have to like see what mistakes you made
you do you do a post mortem at the end? He said, well, like and
then let's let these things play out. What are you gonna do about
these YouTubers? Let them play out, we're gonna learn more from
them, right? We don't have to do a lot of work on this. The
YouTube nut balls are going to get out there and they're going
to do these ridiculous presentations. Let's see what
they come up with. And then we can make corrections in the
future. We don't have to be screw a screw up every single
time we try to do one of these things. So
it's we agree then that the the the the media gets paid to
report. They are all in or no. What do you mean? No,
I don't believe it for a minute.
But they're they're all in on the SIOP. They're buying the
story. Oh, no, they're buying the story. Yeah, absolutely.
That's why I mean, not not there. There is a part of them.
No, they're all in. And it's
a belief how the government tells them, but really have been
trained by journalism schools. Yeah, you're right. It's been a
bit the whole machine Unit has been created to become just an
instrument of the government and what it wants that tells them
this and this, they have a press conference and somebody comes
down and says Ball, ball, ball ball ball, the only tools you're
gonna get us through this microphone. Oh, okay. The only
truth we're gonna get is through that microphone. Let me get my
pen. There. So the media's becomes denied. ographers let me
get my tape recorder.
Yeah, I'm gonna get my tape recorder. So we if we're going
to be all in on the opposite side, saying that there's a
bunch of setups and nobody's really being harmed necessarily,
or there's or they're just trying to scare the public or
whatever they're trying to do at any given time. It seems to be
different a little bit each time. We have to assume there's
an event coming up on this 14th And I went through a list I put
it in the newsletter of the sorts of things that have
happened so far. We've had schools we have a government
facility in the Navy Yard, we've had a marathon different I
have a thought I have a thought. So this is our six week cycle,
where something has to happen to keep the general population in
line. Learn how to shelter in place, cower in the corner and
pay attention to the giant voice system, which as you've noticed,
perhaps in the reporting a couple of giant voice systems
have been going off and there's been apologies and people with
iPhones Mickey has it now to the iPhone group. And the look and
this like Amber Alert. Oh guy the in the car. Who knows you
know what can't find him. I got a tweet this morning amber alert
went off at a university, a giant voice system. So you get
the the big the big. megaphones are telling you what to do and
this is complete and utter slave compliance training. And I'm
thinking the next event will be a natural one. And I'm and I
hate to say it for yourself could be I'm thinking
earthquake, something nasty West Coast being
an earthquake, Southern California. Yeah. But I still
think there's still we're still missing because there's good
money to be made from a sporting event. Because of the sporting
event goes. You have an event there you end up with selling a
lot of goods and services and training a lot of security
guards.
Sir Rob Adams, our nuke expert. He said the only game around
that time is Army Navy.
Which is the fourth thing about this? I've never actually
thought it would be a football game. There's too many
witnesses. Yeah, I think it would be like a basketball game.
Some place it would be it was you're on all the time. There's
a basketball game every night. Somewhere. It'd be a basketball
game or a hockey game. The hockey seasons be gone. You
could do it a hockey game be real easy to control.
John, I just I think there's more money to be made. Because
right now we're sharp. Right? We've we've been, we're cocked
and loaded the typhoon in the Philippines. Clearly, clearly
climate change. It's so obvious the science is in we all know
it's true. It's a fact. Okay. And the fact that that we're
such a holes as rich West people, I would actually say
rich, white middle aged men, because we're getting blamed for
everything that we don't want to pay them. Right. That's why they
walked out of the climate conference. I'm thinking you get
more mileage because they did you hear they want to put an
early warning system up on the north pole for when the ice
breaks. It's just it's billions of dollars to be made in this
scam billions. I think there's more to be made than what
Chertoff is thinking of with as little security things. So while
certainly we'll see a good sporting event, mishap take
place, yeah,
but if this is the sociological studies, that say that this is
psyops, Psyops and natural disasters, I don't think is
gonna be Yeah, I think you're right. There's tonnes of money
to be made off going in that direction. But I still think
it's going to be some it's, you know, it's gotta be homegrown
terrorism or some sort of,
okay, okay. Okay. This leads me into a couple of clips I have I
was waiting for it. This is now the two people who have
oversight in the United States in Congress. Our Congressman
Mike Rogers, he has on the Oversight Committee for the
representatives of the people of the United States. And Senator
Dianne Feinstein, as she is on the Oversight Committee. For the
for the Senate, for these united for the people of the United
States. And they were on Candy Crowley State of the Union
together. And I was blown away by the fear mongering, the lies
the way the condescending attitude the way they're saying
this like you If you watch the video, which is it's in the show
notes 571 dot na shownotes.com under video, you'll see Rogers
is looking at Crowley, you know how it's so funny because
there's, I don't I don't want to say his name, but there's
someone we know who could talk just like this. And, and they'll
give you they'll talk to you looking at you sideways, like,
hey, you know, this is some really serious shit I'm talking
about right now. And that's why I'm looking at you sideways. You
know what I mean? You know,
that sideways? Look, the sideways guy is a constant
reminder that we are only one missed piece of data away from
another terror attack against the US.
This, by the way, is a great setup from the news model. Oh,
I'm sorry. She didn't go to the right modelling school. But of
course, she's Rubenesque. And, you know, she get that
credibility. She literally just said, were one piece of
information or missed piece of information away from death.
Just so you know, I recently
spoke with the chairman of the Senate and House intelligence
committees, Dianne Feinstein and Mike Rogers. The big question
that's always asked, Are we safer now than we were a year
ago? Two years ago?
Oh, John, do you want to give a shot at the answer before Diane
takes over? Or do you do you want to
is this way is this the same Dianne Feinstein who like what
four years ago asked these these douchebags one after the other
that we're the head of the you know, Homeland Security that if
there was gonna be an advantage in the military? Are we going to
have an attack on the homeland in the next 60 days? This is the
same woman that would be the one they all said yes.
Now if you wanted to scare people, if you want to scare
them more than than normal what would what is the if people
already afraid of let's say, I don't know. Bombs? Let's just
take bombs for a second. What would scare you more than just a
bomb?
Well, there's all kinds of things that we didn't just a
bomb. I would say bird flu ramp and bird flu in the Bay Area
that would bother No, no,
no, no, no. You got to think simpler, but Okay, here we go.
In general.
I don't think so. I think tears up worldwide. Terrorism
worldwide. This is six indicate that the fatalities are way up.
The numbers are way up. There are new bombs very big bombs,
trucks being reinforced for those bombs. Their new boss she
talking
about our new bombs, very big bombs, trucks being enforced for
the bombs. The numbers are up the statistics don't lie. It's
all up more dead people listen to it again. It's on ba lievable
what she's saying
way up. There the numbers are way up. There are new bombs,
very big bombs trucks being reinforced. For those bombs.
There are bombs that go through magnetometers. The bomb maker is
still alive. There are more groups than ever. And there is
huge malevolence out there
huge malevolence doing
a summary of the TV show blacklist. bomb maker is still
alive. That's
right. He's still alive. The guy who makes the bombs that can go
to the magnetometer. He's still alive. He's making bombs. We're
not talking just regular bars. We're talking very big bombs.
And there are trucks being reinforced for these big bombs.
I mean, this is she
knows I want to just go grab the truck guy. Let's watch it grab
the bomb and they know that he's the bombs are out. Let's switch
over to Rogers. By the way before you you before you go on.
Did you have to give yourself Clip of the Day for that, Jim?
Oh, that's
that is that is very kind of you. I think though. I'll take
it. I'll take it now. And then
you grasp about it later. Just take it Yeah, I haven't. Okay,
big bombs.
Now, let's switch over to Rogers Rogers is going to be asked to
lay out kind of the you know, he's got to start explaining,
you know, where the fear is coming into, because it's not
just big bombs. No, I mean, there's got to be more than that
same
very reason. So the pressure on our intelligence services to get
it right to prevent an attack are enormous. And it's getting
more difficult because we see the al Qaeda as we knew it
before is metastasizing to something different.
It's metastasizing into something different. Okay,
more affiliates than we've ever had before, meaning more groups
that are operated independently of al Qaeda have now joined al
Qaeda around the world. All of them have at least some
aspiration to commit an act of violence in the United States or
against Western targets. Every single one of them hates all
around the world. They've now switched to this notion that
maybe smaller events are okay, so, John,
hold on a second. We identified this switch over probably. I
think it was after or before the crotch bomber. Were they
couldn't get any more of these big events lined up, there was
no way you could I mean, whatever have you know, this is
not going to do it correct? We're not going to see it is
what it was. They wiped out most of the al Qaeda guys who might
be able to dream something up, right. And so then they switched
over the message to lots of small events. Yes, yes. Now I
want to mention something here. Just before we continue with
this clip, there have been no lots of small events, there have
been some scam events and some dubious events that have hardly
done much damage to anybody. In fact,
according to, to testimony, by the people themselves, only one
actual event was thwarted. That was a real event, all the rest
was bull crap, or goaded by the FBI into giving some guy a
plastic box that says you call that number, it'll explode. And
it doesn't because they've been setting them up and feeding them
drugs or whatever.
So we don't have any evidence of any of this. They're just found,
do you think these guys these two idiots were working on
commission or something? Well,
it's the political capital. That's exactly what it is. And
these people also need to be voted out as soon as possible.
This is Feinstein California, where's Rogers from Michigan,
vote him out people, I don't care who you put in, he's
clearly compromised. He's compromised. He's sitting there
lying to you trying to frighten you into submission
to commit an act of violence in the United States, or against
Western targets all around the world. They've now switched to
this notion that maybe smaller events are okay. So if you have
more smaller events than bigger events, they think that might
still lead to their objectives and their goals that makes it
exponentially harder for our intelligence services to stop an
event like that, because
essentially, one person can do a small amount of
thank you for being so helpful candy, but yes, thank you for
completing the scripts. Yes, one person, all it takes is one
crazy jihadi. Now we've got to
she asked a follow up question, which would be that so does that
mean that all this surveillance and NSA snooping and all the
rest of it is pretty useless? No, she say that?
No, she says exactly the opposite. Exactly. Which will be
coming up in a moment. First, we have to let Diane she has to
talk about the jihad ease and the lone wolf and and she had
this at this point. I think she'd had the P or she she loses
track. She does she loses the plot. But it was her turn
to talk. One of the things that the senator said was that there
is more hatred out there more. And why is that?
I think there is a real displaced aggression in this
very fundamentalist jihadist Islamic
displaced are misplaced.
She said a did his place. She says displaced. And she and she
literally just calls out Islam, which is fun. And why
is that? I think there is a real displaced aggression.
What is why is that wrong when she says displaced? Or why is it
actually correct?
I'm looking at it now.
I'll play the rest. Hey, COVID. Okay.
This very fundamentalist, jihadist Islamic community.
Oh, it's a community. It's very fundamental, small, it's
Islamic. And it's a community and
that is that the West is responsible for everything that
goes wrong. Oh, yes.
Okay. So here, here's the difference. displace means that
one thing is taking the place of another. But that doesn't have a
doesn't have any subtext, whereas misplaced would say that
one thing is taking the place of another but it's, it's wrong.
It's wrong. So she actually uses the wrong word. He's saying they
Yeah, they now they hate us. But they probably should. She's
actually on the wrong side of this argument by using that
word.
Well, is she or she words matter? Ellen? Yeah, that what
the heart is full of the mouth bubbles over with
and that the only thing that's going to solve this is Islamic
Sharia law, and the concept of the caliphate.
Okay, so now we know the problem. The problem is,
we're doing wrong. We're doing eight years behind the times on
this thing, but Okay, go on. We're wrong.
And Sharia law will solve it along with the concept of the
caliphate. So Oh,
hi, actually, that's what she said. Hi, Diane, welcome. Yes,
and I see more groups Group more fundamentalist, more jihadist
more determined to kill to get to where they want to get. So
it's not an isolated phenomenon. You see, these groups spread a
web of connections.
So she's so out of it at this point, that she is now taking
this full circle from its individuals who can blow us up
but they created a web and we're in their evil web of Sharia law
and the caliphate and they're going to kill she said kill net
she had killed her
And this includes North Africa. It includes the Middle East, it
includes other areas as well,
all the great places we've got to send our troops back to
Rogers lay out the fear points. Rogers. So what
you see what's happening in a place like Syria, where you have
a pooling of al Qaeda members and affiliates of al Qaeda in a
way we've never seen before. We brought
them there. We sent them there. We sent them weapons and arms.
What do you mean, we've got he actually is saying we've got not
we're seeing we have? No, he's saying it's, we oh, you see
what's
happening in a place like Syria, where you have a pooling of al
Qaeda members and affiliates of al Qaeda in a way we've never
seen before, at the level of numbers that we have never seen
before. And here's the scary part of this. Some 1000s of
people showing up bound to participate in that when their
mind jihadist effort wait for our Westerners, they're coming
back. Meaning they have Western passports, a percentage of them
have already gone home, including the United States, by
the way is included in that Western number. We've we are
very, very concerned that these folks who have Western paper
have gone there participated in combat events, troops are
trained are further radicalised now have the ability to go back
in Western countries
it could be my neighbour
a way knows all the evidence of this. I don't see bridges
blowing up buildings being toppled, just kidnappings zones.
Nothing going on because
of our the men and women in our intelligence community have been
stopping this 14 This we've been there's at least 54 cases you
are safe citizen, you're safe citizen, because
we are awesome, that that tray,
well apply that trait and now they have a connection, a direct
connection to al Qaeda affiliates operating in a place
where most people would say, well, we have no interests in
Syria. Well, clearly we do. Clearly. That's just one place
and it's starting to spread. You saw what happened in Lebanon
recently, where they blew up the Iranian embassy, this is all
starting to scratch. Iraq is having its problems now. It's
spreading into Jordan has issues. Turkey along the turkey
has issues. This is very, very, very concerned. It's
very concerned. I'm very concerned. I'm very afraid.
They're doing such a great job of protecting us play the no fly
list clip.
A little intervention by Dvorak, six year old Alyssa Thomas, like
any little girl.
She loves her dolls. She's already excited about the first
grade. But according to the US government, you should be
worried about what she's up to.
We're like puzzled, I'm like, Well, you know, she's kind of
six years old. This is not something that should be
typical, but like, Well, okay,
Dr. Santosh Thomas was just made aware that his oldest daughter
is on the list, the tariff watch list that impacts travellers who
could be a threat to national security, a list his parents
found out at the continental check in counter during the
recent trip from Cleveland to Minneapolis. Well,
you know, you're laughing about that John
Doe might be going to Minneapolis to blow it up. Don
roffe
Shut up, don't laugh. She could have a plastic bomb in her
there is now a bomb that can go through magnetometers people can
get on aircraft with those bombs. They have tried to send
four of them into this country, two of them in printer
cartridges, one by Abdulmutallab and one an asset was able to
obtain SVM and these were coming into this country two of them
aimed at synagogues in Illinois,
I'd forgotten about that. That was good. Now.
magnetometer got to do with a printer cartridge, nothing
printed card, you gotta walk it through.
Just why is that a printer cartridge up your butt? Yeah.
Okay. No worries. Well, here's the answer to your to your
question, actually.
here so you think about what's happened with the recent
disclosures we have now three al Qaeda affiliate groups have
changed the way they communicate means it's less likely that
we're going to be able to detect something prior to an event that
goes operational meaning that they've already started the the
final planning stages to blow something up, here comes the
final word or shoot someone. And so we're fighting amongst
ourselves here in this country about the role of our
intelligence community that is having an impact on our ability
to stop what is a growing number of threats. And so we've got to
shake ourselves out of this pretty soon and understand that
our intelligence services are not the bad guys.
There you go. That's the final word. We're not the bad guys.
The bad guys, the al Qaeda affiliates, Russian intelligence
services, especially US intelligence are all
gonna write it down. Let me hold on a second al Qaeda Okay to
affiliates, Russian intelligence, Chinese
intelligence. They're the bad guys. Okay?
The Al Qaeda affiliates, Russian intelligence services, Chinese
intelligence services, the Quds force that operates terrorism
events all around the world. Those are the folks we need to
focus our attention and our energy on in order to keep
America safe.
I think that this should be it should be an international
scandal.
They think you're dead on on this one this that would have
been Clip of the Day. You're right. Because this idiot, you
can just say declared war on Russia
and China. They're like alcohol War on Terror includes
Russia and China, apparently. Yes. This is how I'm blown up in
arms about this. This guy needs to be removed from this
committee.
He needs to be removed from Washington DC.
Yes, he does. People please. If you want your Michigan folks,
you've gotten better than that. The guy is a stooge.
Yeah, yes. But anyway, when you see the video, and he's talking
to candy, looking sideways the whole time he's saying it. And
he talks like this. I mean, clearly, it's the al Qaeda and
the al Qaeda affiliates. And it's the Russian Intelligence
Service and the Chinese. These are the bad guys. These are the
people trying to kill us people. They're trying to kill us in
that right diet and just telling
us that Russian intelligence is trying to kill us. Yes, that's
Chinese intelligence is over here. Trying to set something up
and try to kill us. Yes. But he said, Yeah,
exactly. Hmm. Meanwhile, of course, the monetization of
Edward Snowden continues, as does the conversation around
this getting kind of interesting, Pierre Omidyar. We
get we need to either pronounce his name properly or give him a
good nickname.
I think alMihdhar is fine. alMihdhar.
It's got to be something that irritates him a little bit when
we say it wrong.
He's never gonna listen to this show in a million years.
But first of all, it caught him Peter, I think that's kind of
funnier. Pete Pete Omidyar.
Pete Oh, Meteor.
Quito Meteor. I, he I guess he had to finally write a piece
which I doubt he wrote about the PayPal shut down that
cost WikiLeaks its momentum, right.
And he wrote a piece of which is entitled WikiLeaks press freedom
and free expression in the digital age, which I pooped my
pants laughing at the idiocy. He turns it around, he turns around
a clear act that PayPal shut off WikiLeaks for months. And even
though I think he's he says fairly that you know, when
you're a publicly listed company, and the government
says, Hey, you got to stop that, which of course, they had no
right to do but Okay. He wrote that, but the whole article is
about well, you know, what is protests in the digital age? You
know, denial.
Yeah, you know, you have a link to the show notes. I'm sure for
that. Alright. Yeah, yeah, of course. So yeah, what was that
all about? It was like he was all he was off the tracks off
the rails just going crazy with these different assertions
trying to cover his bases as a kind of a rich guy from Silicon
Valley, who really has the you know, protect his wealth and
investors wealth. And then the guy starting up this great
newspaper or whatever, it's going to be with the with a
bunch of left wingers. It's just that I find it distressing to
read.
Well, yes. And and I just want to and of course, the
conversation is now all about the reporting and and Glenn
Greenwald and Pete Alma car, but we're not really discussing the
reporting itself, which is not journalism. I'm sorry. It's just
not journalism. So we had this. Two pages from another
PowerPoint deck, are published by The Washington Post. And it's
this now this time was Barton Gellman, who was in on it was in
on the the monetization. And the title of the piece is NSA is
huge trove of location records. And so what is being given to us
and I'm just going to play devil's advocate because I got
nothing better to do. What is given to us is two pages of a
PowerPoint deck. And page one I'm looking at it right now.
It's it's from a programme apparently called facia FAS CI
A, which could be split up as an acronym as well, but we don't
know exactly. And it says example of current volume As in
limits, and it's a it's a, it's a bar graph, that when you look
at it, you can deduce that 5 million record 5 billion records
per year or per day are collected by the day, per day.
And then the second page of this deck, which I'm sure there were
more pages, because it's Page five on the deck, this bar graph
and page 26. Is the the metadata being collected, which is
locational. You think there might be more to it?
Yes. And it's a fucking PowerPoint deck. This is not
proof. This is not proof. I'm just gonna say it. It's not
proof. Yeah, it's it says it's a big pile of smoke. And I'd like
to know about it. But you need sources, interviews,
confirmation or denials, you need more than this. This is
this is not journalism. This is republishing, or whatever you
want to call it. And it makes me mad that people buy into it now.
Do I suspect it's true? Sure. But it's not journalism. It's
just not? Or is it? Well, I
would say if with the redefinitions that are taking
place, notably with WikiLeaks, where they would take a pile of
stuff and just put it out there and then call it journalism,
because
even WikiLeaks didn't really do that. John, they really
know they still date well, with with our stuff. But with other
stuff, if you look, WikiLeaks over the years, has essentially
taken a pile of stuff and put it out there. And yeah, there has
been stuff stuff that's been looked at by the government
first. So there is a scam involved in that. But no, I've
all I've seen is they take a PowerPoint slide. Put it up,
it's almost like a creative creative writing exercise in
high school. Here write an essay about this slide. And so they
get the slide it says they're they're following people around
on their phones, which I believe it's probably true that this
constitutes the evidence it could have been fake for I mean,
I don't know who did this slide. I never met the guy could be
bullcrap. Yes. The NSA failing to deny it, but do they don't
want to talk about anything anyway, so you don't even know
if that's true. Well, so
here's how here's how the Washington Post gets away with
this. So the article is by Barton Gellman and ashcan
Soltani. So you got to look why do you don't have to believe me?
OSH tonsil, Connie is a consultant. He's a he's a I
could do his job. He is a technology consultant. He's the
kind of guy that says yes, Google Glass is very effective.
And the article is NSA tracking cell phone locations worldwide
Snowden documents show. And then it says this is the this is the
article the National Security Agency is gathering nearly 5
billion records a day on the whereabouts of cell phones
around the world according to top secret documents and
interviews with US intelligence officials. What interviews it's
not a single interview, not a single thing printed in this
entire the piece in The Washington Post, which I might
want to point out. He's now owned by Jeff Bezos, who's on
the level on the level of of Pete on the car. Okay, another
Silicon Valley guy
who, who
poned the journalism on Cyber Monday with this huge bull crap
story about Amazon drones delivering packages, which I
might want to point out. Every single mainstream news outfit
fell for hook line and sinker. Not me. No, of course not you.
But PC Magazine didn't publish your column.
Yeah, they did it. They've ran on Wednesday. Oh, okay. Well, it
took took them long enough. Yeah, I asked him why it was an
update. All your comms go up on Wednesday. Now
I know what's going on with them. You don't have to say it.
Whatever the
case it went up on Wednesday and they kept the good lines in
there. So that's not
and it was it was the 60 minutes it was Charlie Rose. These
people are should be should be banned from does their card.
It's like a press card. It should be taken away from them.
Because that wasn't that's journalism. That's your
highfalutin journalism.
Actually, I have a quote from the interview in the column
which I should probably open up and just read it please do. Part
of part of roses.
Journalism style. Go to PC mag.com Real quick. Just take a
second.
To have that clip of Charlie Rose sounding really crappy.
No, that creepy clip that you have that clip? That's the one
where he leans who is talking to some woman he says what's it
like to be sexy? I think it's something like that Angelina
Jolie wasn't always Angelina Jolie. I don't think I have that
clip anymore. For some Oh, don't throw clips away. I can't find
maybe mislabeled
again. Let me just read the last paragraph. Why the media doesn't
see this as a bad idea giving away the milk as it were as
always baffling Bezos Czone interesting character to
business owners with my Myers plug I'm saying Why did Bezos is
getting attention right to the public is no Kim Kardashian yet
we run uncritical puff pieces as though he were to make it work
60 minutes uses uses fawning softballs, Charlie.
Slow it down because it's a good article. Slow it down. Take your
time to make it work.
60 minutes uses fawning soft baller, Charlie. I never met a
rich guy I didn't like Rhodes. Good one. For Bezos. He is the
perfect interviewer. Here's an example of roses probing style.
Jeff Bezos, you come and get your package. And we can do
that. I know we can do half hour delivery. Charlie Rose, half
hour delivery, Bezos half hour delivery. Anyway, that's the
kind of
will people go read that column? I'll put a link to it in the in
the show notes. Yeah. And so this is what journalism has
become. And it's unnecessary. Yeah, there, there's no need for
it whatsoever. It's compromised from beginning to end. Don't
think for a second, CBS is not compromised by Amazon. Please.
And doing this on a day when it's Cyber Monday, everyone
needs to be thinking about Amazon. It was a commercial, if
they didn't get paid for it. They should send a bill after
the fact. But then look at all of the newspapers all of them.
Yes, this is fantastic.
The stupidest thing I've ever seen. My tweet was that say
suppose it could lift five pounds, that box was empty. This
is
not going to happen. This is not going to happen. You know, if
you think this is going to happen, then where's your
where's my flying car? This will not happen. It's just not that
happen. It's not possible. It is it's a nightmare. It's not it's
not even within the realm of possibility of happening you you
can't even say it is not going to happen.
It's well yeah, I can say that. And but I'm also going to say
it's just like the driverless car. It's not going to happen
very soon. You it's just
never going to happen. The driverless car could happen is
the driverless cars on a street that's paved, and
it's going going to take off the back way, decades, it's going to
take decades before the driverless car is on the street,
put it in the book, we'll both be dead before this is
mainstream transportation. And I will come back and laugh at you.
It's not going to happen anyway. My point would be there is no
journalism in today's world. And I'm not to belabour the point
and you know, and I know that you work for them. But look at
who's advertising on PC Magazine. It's the model is
broken. You don't need a network. You don't need to have
a group you don't need to have a sugar daddy venture capital
Silicon Valley bitch to pay you. You don't need it. Glen
greenwall. I'm happy if you just want to sell the documents and
stories about the documents to individual newspapers. It's a
great business model. Nothing wrong with it. I'm all for it do
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Yeah, we didn't get much action today. I have to say how's our
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While you're particularly vulnerable, because I know I
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CCTV I don't know how they did while you're on green screen. I
couldn't figure it out. But
so after Egypt completes this transitional period, nothing
should hinder the next elected government from having an old
friend as an ally. CCTV.
Your way you using that stupid that bony Dutch accent
really his name Adam curry.
That's what it sounds like to me. It said I'm curious. CCTV
that wasn't you?
Cairo. Hello in this night. That's that's pretty weird job.
So after Egypt completes a transitional period. Nothing
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friend as an ally. CCTV. Cairo. Someone's getting cornhole today
sounds like a recipe for success to me. Yeah,
I'm all over the place.
You're getting way too much work.
I had an idea. By the way. I had an idea for us to make more
money. I interest a now. Now, I have to ask you a couple of
questions. Because I'm not sure if we can if we can pull this
off. But now you've told me you've done these these big
technology books before. Now before getting into the rant of
how O'Reilly might rip us off. The way I understood the way
Brian is
on this killings thing. He's killing different people and
that he's making so much money with these killing books. But
he's not ripping anybody off. Okay.
So if there were a technology book, and I have the idea which
one to pitch to you. I the way you've explained it to me in the
past is you know, we sell the idea, then we get the money and
then we pay freelancers like 50 guys to write little bits and
pieces of it because you know, there's no way you wrote the
entire Windows 3.1 telecommunications book by
yourself obvious. You miss very
clearly outlined in the front of the book, how these books are
produced, right?
But that's how it works. Correct.
It's one of the ways you can do a big book,
can we still do this? Is this model still available? Because I
have a great idea.
Well, it you know, the publishers don't care anymore
about anything other than the the advances are down the tubes
and I don't think so. I mean, I mean, it's possible on a launch,
I've been get some agent that would pick it up and try to move
it.
So I give you the idea that I'm going to pitch this so you know
that I've been on this on this Long term mission of you know,
we got to know how to set up our own email servers you got to
know how to instal Linden what to do
with the Okay, I think I know are you are you going with this?
I
think you don't I bet you don't.
I bet you do. But tell me go and tell it's the
post apocalyptic technology survivor kit. Exactly. So this
and we write it from the from the from the viewpoint of okay,
the EMP struck. The only thing left were like maybe we'll say
Dell laptops or something like only like all the Apple stuff is
all fried.
And of course Dell with his for that,
or Lenovo,
we could figure out what whoever's got the money, got the
money.
And then we'll explain you know how to how to turn it into a
server how to you know how to end them, but we'll also add
some ham radio stuff in there with digital to create ham mesh
networks. You know, Google's gone Twitter is fried all the
pizza basically, Silicon Valley perished. Right? So in the
Apocalypse, and this book explains how you can rebuild
your you know, the
how you rebuild society, society?
Yes. Thank you. Exactly.
What do you Okay? I think that's actually a doable book.
Now, I mentioned this to Mickey, of course, it's, first of all,
she rolled her eyes like, okay, and that
is bad enough. The guy's bad enough said,
no, no, no. It was just about the book in general. She said,
and she's okay. And what do you want to write this? Do you want
to write this yourself? Like, now? I'm not. And then I said,
John, and she went, what? He never finishes any books. Crazy.
This isn't too good. An
idea. A this reputation I'm getting is not good.
But I thought that maybe because this the model is you get a
whole book because you know, we're not going to write how to
inspect a project.
It's not it's not it's a project management thing. Yeah, you get,
you get a bunch of people assigned to the different set
the way these books are done these monster books. And this is
can I typically point something out this stuff, there's an extra
extra coolness about this particular book. It's a real
book. It has
to be paid on. No, it has to be a real book, obviously. Hello,
and but we can do hardcover. With like fireproof, we can do a
special edition. Yeah, that's a great, it's the gift that
keeps on getting those. Yeah, well,
that's a great gift. People will love giving this as a gift, no
one's gonna read it. But it'll be fun to give it to people as a
Christmas gift
are a really outstanding title. So Upsilon it's doable as a
project you the key to success with these large, large book
projects is that you have to where the real work is, there's
two two phases to the real work is first deciding on the great
details of what you need in the book, how long these chapters
have to be. And then who's going to write them and then you have
to find people and you have to solicit some will do it for
free, you can get a lot of free material from public relations
firms. Oh, right. Stock, of course, when other companies
involved, the companies involved. And so you know,
they're the only guys who make the software radio and the
they'll write it up. By the way,
can I just stop you there? Now that I think about it, we have
to do that in its entirety. That's the smartest way to go.
We just go to all the manufacturers say we've chosen
you. You. Yeah. And
that sounds good. And practice doesn't necessarily work.
There's a couple of these operations that won't help you.
funny names, but me, Microsoft is one of them.
But they're not in because it's Linux. So we don't need
Microsoft.
Okay, well, then you have to find somebody from it. Is this
not is non trivial to get the work done for free. Well, a
little better shot at it for but
but no, no, I want a publisher to give us an advance to create
the
book not gonna get enough money. Really, can
we do a Kickstarter? Maybe
we started might might do it. Whatever the case is, it's a
good idea for a book I would gladly do it. And I think it I'd
like to I like the idea. And I like the gimmick
I got it. I got another part to the gimmick. It's two volumes
bound. And one of them was a hollow book with a Raspberry Pi
inside.
Well, now you're now you're bringing in complications that
publishers will not deal with.
All right, I'm just trying to make some dough bro.
Yeah, dobro. No, bro. Yeah, we'll call it this. Do you think
that the you know the scheme, the earlier discussion we had
where I said there might be a testing the public was
sociological trickery, to try to figure out you know, what we can
what we'll put up with how gullible we are and all the rest
of it. That this may be now also going on in Northern Ireland.
Ireland. Have you heard about what's going on there Play Part
One.
While the sectarian conflict known as the Troubles in
Northern Ireland has resurfaced in recent weeks, police have
tightened security around Belfast after a failed bomb
attack in the city centre. Fears of a rise in defendant activity
after several years of calm. CCTV, Chris won a larger section
as this report fast streets
are bustling with shoppers, yet fears for safety linger in the
air. It's less than a week since two masked men hijacked a car,
forcing a man to drive 60 kilos of explosives into a shopping
centre car park in the heart of the city. The attack was
unsuccessful as the bomb failed to detonate. But many here are
worried as this is the first trip on such a scale to be seen
in Belfast in the years.
Northern Ireland is at its lowest ebb since the negotiation
of the Good Friday Agreement. Because what's happening at the
moment is, as I said this, extremism is filling this
political vacuum. And the issue of the past is being used as a
surrogate by those who want to dismantle the negotiated deal.
Security across the city is tight with increased police
checkpoints and safety measures.
That sounds like they just want to increase some security in
Belfast.
But here you have another situation that didn't make no
sense. You get two masked men hijacked a car to drive a bunch
of explosives into a mall. What What? What? show what's just
idiotic itself?
That's not a great plan. By the way, if you want to blow up the
mall, this is not a great plan to hijack a car. So how about
renting one?
Meanwhile, we have I gave a part two, which is short here, which
is the public's reaction to this is exactly what we get here. Or
at least the media presents it that way by presenting only the
POC. Oh, it's better to be safe than sorry. I think it's great
to have all this extra security.
People here are saying that it's been many years since they've
seen security checkpoints like this on their way into a
shopping centre. But traders here are adamant to keep the
public safe in this busy period leading up to Christmas. And the
public seem to welcome it
is necessary. And I suppose it's like a message to everybody
else. You know, there are people like Cosmo tighter and you know,
we're saying that, you know, this is what is needed. And I
and this is what has caused you know, this is what it's legal
tonight.
So you have a few more people will probably go to the end of
town shopping centres and physically got there are certain
things you have to go in Belfast and certain shops you can only
get in Belfast. So I don't see any problem with people waiting
a little extra time with a security.
Yeah, well, that's true. But I you all there is some historical
context of Belfast specifically which cannot be ignored. Depends
on that
ignoring that, but it's just this sounds as though they're
dirt. This sounds like you know that like that earlier story
where he's like they're trying to incite something or get.
She's, you know, things are better when we're having these
bombings and let's get it back. going again,
I have the premiere, I got the premise. Now. Mark Zuckerberg
turns out to be a lone wolf al Qaeda jihadist, he blows himself
up at TED, taking out gates, and Tim Cook. And all those guys are
gonna do a novel now. Is that what this is? That's
the premise since then. And of course, there's no leaders and
all the all the people, these companies, they're like work,
and they don't know what to do. And then, you know, then they
just like, everything just falls apart, and then it just burns
down. Because they don't know I know it is because the free food
stops at Google. Everyone just stops coming in. Right. Okay.
Which is your premise for the for the apocalyptic?
I'm working on it. I'm working on it. Then Then here's the
here's something disturbing. What are we how are we on time?
I don't know exactly how we're on time because I only have half
the recording. We
are. We're about 10 minutes and then we're done. Yeah,
this is very, very disturbing. Every year in the United States
of America, we propagate the fun fairy tale of Santa Claus to our
children in multiple ways. You know, some read the toys The
Night Before Christmas book, which is a tradition of my
family all through the house. Not a creature was stirring, not
even a mouse.
Really? Yes. I and somebody sits down and reads.
Yes. And my daughter still wants me to read it. And it's fun and
it's a tradition and it's nice.
How much fun is it? Well, because I get to sometimes
you know, I put in different words. I do the X rated version
from time to time. Yeah. Then of course we have ham radio
operators who are morons, and and the ham rate and there'll be
one guy and he'll be pretend to be Santa on the ham radio. Oh,
and then all the kids can gather around their dad's ham radio and
talk to Santa. Which is is pathetic. But it's just
pathetic. But the worst part is we have the NORAD defence
mechanism. And this bothers
me to NORAD, of course is their marginalising NORAD for the
benefit of bull crap.
And we'll NORAD of course is the the actual outfit that that that
that was doing a drill and let the hijacked aeroplanes crash
into buildings. Thanks NORAD. It's run by I think a Canadian
guy because I think it's North America so it's I guess it's it
is the United States and in Canada Navia and they have some
NORAD always track Santa and give him a free pass, to fly
from the north pole down to North America where he starts
his venue. And of course, he has to fly all around the world, to
hand out gifts to children everywhere who have been very
nice and are on the nice list this year. If you go to NORAD
santa.org, they have completely militarised him, he's, he gets
an escort of F 16 fighter jets. And I have a video of which I
have the audio here of the command centre. And listen to
how militarised this has become I mean, they might as well just
put a swastika on his frickin slice. Let's go over to
the Pentagon now. Oh, hold on.
That's actually I don't want to have that I have the I don't
want broth setup. I want the actual video. Oh, and this is
where everything freezes. Of course, why wouldn't work.
NORAD Tracks Santa herders rethink with the web.
We now join the crew of the North American Aerospace Defence
Command and US Northern Command and the command centre as they
track Santa Ana test flight in preparation for his big journey
on December 24. It's
a test flight he's doing John this is just a test. Don't worry
kids. He's not really coming in. It's just a test.
It isn't just women. This is Lieutenant General. Deputy
Commander NORAD this will be a test flight for Santa Claus.
Callsign Big Red One.
Big Red One. He's got a big red one and his sleigh kids
that will be part of North Pole and head directly for North
American airspace. We all know that centre travels faster than
starlight. But this is nothing that our technologies can
handle. We will now conduct our construct
their intel can confirm that Jack Frost and the abominable
snowman will not be a threat during the test flight third
this is the air domain airspace is clear from all threats.
Threats airspace is clear from all threats.
Cyber anti Grinch viral is up and we will continue to monitor
for threats
cyber anti Grinch viral is up John we're all good.
Sir land domain here we have verified load bearing capacity
for all rooftops which reindeer Rolando. This is maritime our
ships are standing by ready to conduct any gift rescue
operations if necessary.
In the space domain, we have optimal visibility for
satellites
to space domain, Big Red One.
This is whether we forecast light snow and low density cloud
cover in higher elevations.
All those on the line we can confirm that centre is airborne
at this time. He is currently descending to 10,000 feet at a
speed of 250 knots. Based on flight plans filed with the FAA
and that Canada we can confirm this is not a trip to North
America
is not a threat is to stand down stand down is not a threat to
North America. Give him an escort with the F 16 Boy
big red ones track from the North Pole.
Yes sir. Our DSP satellites use infrared sensors to detect heat
from missile and booster plumes in 1995 technological
advancements were made to ground based radar systems hey kids did
you hear that motion information kids just
so you know that work it's well well spent money we can track
you even if you're travelling at the speed of starting Hanson
detection capability of smaller objects like heat generated from
Rudolph snows
missile, specifically ground based radar operators can you
can relate trajectory of Big Red One with what satellite
operators are seeing.
Roger sir, we can confirm our radars are seeing the same sight
picture from the ground that satellite operators are seen
from space. As you know sir, for our real world mission of
missile warning and effective layer defence incorporates a
wide range of sensors
paying attention children just so you know duck and cover we
got it's all okay.
And track missile threats or national leaders can make
decisions on protecting our two nations is most definitely not a
threat.
Not this year at
least Aegis Are you able to sit down with one from your position
at sea?
Roger Sir, we're using our powerful sea bass computers and
radar that are normally Use the tracking guard weapons to
destroy enemy targets
How long does this go on another
minute? Ah, yeah there but the telling the children about all
the great things that they have to kill people with.
It's unbelievable.
Oh, homeland. Oh,
no, man, that is bad.
Meanwhile, tonight we're launching an atlas five rocket
from Vandenberg Air Force Base
tonight. Yep. Which they do it during the day. Well, it's
an Atlas V.
Is it going to be live? Which way is it going to be headed?
Well, I'm gonna read it to you an Atlas V, which will be five
rocket carrying a national security payload. Could it? What
is What does that even mean? What is it like a whole bunch of
Snowden documents. National Security payload is scheduled
for launch from south Vandenberg Air Force Base late on the
evening December 5. If everything goes according to
plan, the rocket will depart Space Launch Complex three at
2313 PST during an unspecified launch window head southward and
carry a classified National Reconnaissance Office payload
and several small satellites into orbit.
Going south. Yeah, that sucks. And you can't see it was going
north. I guess you can see it going over. It's pretty. It's
pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. They're sending up another piece
of crap that costs billions of dollars. It's going to probably
spy on a Chinese satellite spying on us. Yeah, something
like that. Or who knows? Could be a guy in it for all you know,
I do have a couple of last clips before we get out of here. Okay.
I mentioned this in the last show that Amy Goodman is should
be take a job as a speed reader. And I got the clip of her speed
reading this is I imagine it goes like this at the meeting.
Yeah, so if you start to work for us, I know you're gonna get
paid minimum wage, but we will mention you at the end of the
show. On every show. We're going to mention your name and then
you're going to be on the on the credit roll. So here's her
pitch.
It says Democracy Now that does it for the broadcast. Democracy
Now is produced by Mike Burke Rene felts our motto Nermeen
Shaikh Steve Martinez Semafo, honey Mr. grubby guarantee the
guests are having a little focus, centralist there Messiah
roads. Shareen enduro microphylla Miguel de guerre
engineer Special thanks to Becca Stella who, Julie Crosby Hugh
Grant, Jessica Lee John Wallach festa guitars and to our camera
crew John Randolph Karen Chris Meadows Carlota Hey, Suzanne
many different thanks so much for joining us. Oh,
that's how we should do our donation segment.
Isn't that she's actually good at that. Yeah. 3333 complaints
complaints. If you want to play a clip, Blitz, here we go. This
is the one this is the last high school USA show. I'm going to
set it up. One of the characters, it went to a party
in Amish country where the girls get to do whatever they wanted,
and they were having sex every which way. And they decided the
only kind of sex they didn't have is by having a sex change
and then having sex again. So the guy's gonna hit the guy, the
girl that was an Amish girl had the sex change. The guys decided
against it.
old widow in my autumn years. That's the worst news of all.
That's right, Brad. You got delta winning hand. Don't fold
it. Well, I guess I should go tell her I sure hope she takes
it like the man that she now is. Read, Mary. Is that really? You?
Sure is pretty cool, right? Yeah. Now get on in there. I
can't wait to take this new hog for a spin.
Well, here's the thing. Miriam, I I can't go through with this.
Because how do I say this delicately. I just don't want to
Well, I can't say that. Under the circumstances. I'm not a
little disappointed. But I understand. You need to live
your boring single gendered life the way you want to
hear the coolest guy in the world. Look at you, man. You're
a real son of a bitch. Well find a woman to have sex with me.
Wish me luck. You'll find one easy there are so many slots out
there.
And that ladies and gentlemen is Fox Network.
Meanwhile,
the unmanned probe was launched from a military complex at sea
Chang in southwest China. Officials at Mission Control say
all went according to plan.
What he could be saying holy crap that things out of control.
According to Beijing aerospace Control Centre, Changi three
probe has successfully entered Earth's orbit. Now I announced
Changi three probe was successfully launched.
The Jade Rabbit lander is due to reach the moon and touchdown in
a fortnight. It's named after a mythical pet belonging to the
goddess of the moon and according to state media, it
will explore the lunar surface and seek out natural risks.
Horses. China is only the third nation after the United States
and the former USSR to send a mission to land on the moon.
Since beginning its space programme a decade ago, China
has sent 10 astronauts into space and launched an orbiting
module called Tiangong. One. China is also planning a
permanent space station by 2020. And eventually to send
astronauts to the moon as well.
I can't wait until the Chinese land on the moon and there's no
flags. No Rubble, no nothing.
They dropped that stuff off in a later mission. China in Egypt
the Chinese has weird nobody's paying attention, but we're
worried sick. Mike Rogers is worried sick about Chinese
intelligence. Meanwhile, they're gonna they're gonna move it on
to Egypt while we're sitting here with our hands, our feet in
the air and thumbs in the water.
Meanwhile, let's shift focus to the Middle East and China's
Special Envoy for that region will Sucre he's an Egypt and
Egyptian Foreign Minister Nabil Rami. Both him and our various
other Egyptian leaders have exchanged views on China ties
with that country, as well as the Middle East peace process
and security in the overall gulf. CCTV correspondent Avila
Mahadevi has more from Cairo.
Ambassador was keen to spend few hours in Cairo before he heads
to Bahrain for the ninth Manama dialogue. That's the second
visit for China's special envoy on the Middle East this year. At
a time Egypt is still undergoing political transition, comes with
an assuring message from China. The ad
tryna support the efforts of the Egyptian people for developing
their country. I expressed congratulations on the
constitution to the foreign minister. It's a wise effort,
and it reflects the will of the Egyptian people. We look forward
to the roadmap reaching its targets.
Yeah, look, and I thought we were all in there. I thought we
had that thing locked down. We spend billions a
year to get screwed to Chinese gonna take it over? Well, then
we should stop sending
our money. Well,
I think we're going to blame the Chinese are banking on
that if the Chinese get in there, then they've got the what
is that the worst zoo as Suez Canal?
Well, the Chinese tried to buy the Panama Canal on their off
the pay part two, and you get to kind of the summary.
China and Egypt have the same foreign policies toward the
pressing issues in the Middle East. Both have been working to
push forward a two state solution for the Palestinian
Israeli conflict based on the 1967 borders. They support a
political solution for the Syrian crisis. Oh, tiny
algea Chica Ching, she got in on everything. Whatever. Do
whatever you guys want. These guys are the more agreeable of
the group. We're not agreeable. We're out.
How come you know we should we should be able to get financing
from these guys. Chinese? Yeah.
I think I'm gonna get some money from Putin. We're the only
people that have ever given the guy a break. Yeah, well,
yeah. And that's true. That's true. I have I have one clip
that I'd like to play. It's, and it's just, it's just real. I
thought it was very funny. If you live in Gitmo nation East in
the UK, and you like to Twitter or be on the Facebook, you have
to be very careful. You know how the laws are there, right.
You have to be careful. Yeah, you get thrown in jail for a bad
tweet.
And the BBCs legal correspondent is happy to explain to you
exactly how you can avoid jail time and or a fine when you're
tweeting or Facebooking. Pay attention slaves.
Here in the BBC social media hub, the journalists who publish
on behalf of the BBC, are trained in the law. So they
understand the law relating to contempt of court, they
understand the law relating to libel defamation. But how much
do you understand about that law? Do you realise, for
instance, that when you blog, or tweet or post on Facebook, what
you might regard as a verbal conversation, because it is kind
of the modern equivalent of that is, in fact, a publication and
all the law both the civil law of defamation on the one hand,
and the criminal law relating to contempt of court on the other
applies to that publication in precisely the same way as it
would to a book that someone had been working years on or to a
newspaper article.
Is there precedents for this that I missed somehow
that an underlying conversation,
I know that but but he's now is coming out and stating it as
fact and when there have been
a number of cases? I mean, this goes back 20 years when you're
in Germany, for example, it's illegal to do comparison
advertising. And so people had started doing it in the early
days of the internet, and I know some people were busted. In
Germany. It's also illegal to you know brazenly show the suas
Tikka. And so people were busted for that. There's been a lot of
kinds of things creeping up. But the libel and slander and that
sort of thing is still it's
even better. This is the legal correspondent of the BBC, a
government organisation who is saying that when you tweet, it
is equal to publishing a book. And the same laws add here
another as a minute of it, he's going to tell you what to do pay
attention, because you don't want to go to jail slave. So
what do you do
if you want to go online and slave comment about a big
criminal case? Well, the first thing, if you don't want to get
into trouble is if you know of a criminal case that's coming up,
and you want to get into trouble, simply don't blog,
tweet or post but if you are going
to just shut up, is he saying, Hey, if you just shut up, shut
up slang, do
be aware of the danger areas, things like commenting about the
defendant in a way that might be prejudicial. So for instance,
revealing that that person has previous convictions or
unpleasant character traits.
unpleasant character, I hope that this show should we should
I can ever travel to England again, and get arrested for this
show. That's one
area that is likely to get you into trouble commenting about
the evidence in a case in a way that might colour the jury one
way or another. Hello, the jury, just be aware that any comment
of that type, which could be deemed to be prejudicial to the
trial could result in you being proceeded against for contempt
of court, and it could result in you going to prison. Now, in
addition to contempt, there are some criminal offences
themselves that relate to publication. Be aware, for
instance, that it is a criminal offence to name the victim of a
sexual offence. Such victims get lifelong anonymity. And if you
do that online, then you will be proceeded against or you will be
prosecuted. That is an offence that's punishable by fine, but
it has been prosecuted very, very recently.
There you go. Just stay off the tweeters people you don't want
to get in trouble.
Well, on that pathetic note,
well, that's just not it's not here. We still have freedom of
speech.
Yeah, no, here we have a little more leeway. I know in Canada,
they don't have much.
Well, isn't that part of the of the Empire? The crown? Yes.
Yeah. Okay, so we will, we gotta go. And thank you, Martin JJ,
who hopefully, is still listening and will remember to
send me the beginning of the show, which was not recorded, or
so thankful. Common Core on Sunday, there's more to talk
about tonnes of interesting emails from y'all. Some agenda
21 stuff, please. No more fast and furious. No more. I do think
we should make mission
mentioned that the gas tank is behind the driver.
Yeah, that this. I had a very different car in mind. As this
was unfolding, while we were doing the show. And now that I
realised what kind of automobile this was, is yeah, it's easy to
see how you can get into a wreck and blow up. Maybe they had
nitrous on board too. I don't know.
That's doubtful, but I know that one came from
Um, well, the let me give you the the conspiracy theory line
now is that because of Paul Walker's charity, which is a
charity for the Philippines, Typhoon victims, key found out
this is that swear to god, this is the theory. He found out that
they were putting medicine, or they were putting like abortion
stuff into into their vaccines and medicine. They were shipping
over there. And he was gonna blow the case wide open. So they
had to kill him. They had to kill him. You know,
I don't know if there was anything like that going on. I
think we would have discovered it before.
But it's you know, and it's like, it's 33 it's a 33 degree
angle. 33 miles from his house. He was 33 to 33 movies. No, are
3233 It's like all this 33 stuff. And it's this rampant.
The Illuminati killed him. Well, maybe they did. You know, but
Cui bono. Who benefits from this? The only person benefiting
temporarily is Eric Holder for the confusion of the name Fast
and Furious. And I bombed and yeah, so Google bomb and really
the amount of people who are emailing me about this
particular case. It's really sad. You care so much about an
actor. It's just sad. It's sad at the grand scale of the world,
and how people are being squeezed to death. Worldwide.
This is the thing you're most obsessed with. Sad. He was a
handsome man though. I'll give you that. Like,
I liked him in his role. Yeah,
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