Mainstream flood.
Adam curry,
John C. Dvorak.
Sunday, December 1 2013. Time for your gizmo nation media
assassination episode 570.
This is no agenda guarding the realities
of FEMA Region six from the Java side tight out in Austin, Texas
in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's
actually really a holiday we're working on John C. Dvorak.
Buzzkill.
Still holiday? Yeah, we're still working the holiday actually
the day that nobody listens.
It's actually worse than Thanksgiving. This
is actually in the numbers. Prove It, John before.
Yeah. Before we do anything. The entire citizenry of Gitmo nation
needs to know how your apple dressing turned out.
Actually, it turned out quite well. Yeah, I wouldn't say it's
a substitute perfect substitute for people who like a variety
tasty sage, you know, infused dressing, normal dressing, but I
would say as the substitute with one correction to my recipe,
which I will publish in the next newsletter for anyone
interested. Maybe Christmas. Yes,
full transparency, as usual. Is that
the apples, which I used a variety of apples, actually
should be peeled. As opposed to unpeel because there's the only
annoying thing about the dressing is the Apple peels.
Right? Oh, they never saw them.
Oh, you left them in there. Yeah. Oh, hey, by the way, can
you just check your Skype and make sure you don't have the
automatic stuff set on? Just to double check on
my, my variable? Yeah.
beyond the usual Yeah. You're always a little bit variable.
This is the no agenda Show episode. 570. Coming to you. On
December the first 2000
No, I uncheck these boxes. But there they are. Again, Check.
Check. Now I know they check themselves but it's Skyrim
Check. Check in you. Yeah, Skype all just wants to do that. It
wants to reach out. I don't know why. I have the same thing. I
don't know why it does that. It makes no sense. Other than
listen, you stupid user. You don't actually want to do that.
Don't worry. We'll fuck it up. Next time we you start our
programme. That's the thing right,
unchecked?
Well, I'm glad you asked. Yes. My Thanksgiving was weird.
I'm glad you asked. Yeah, I said I was unchecked. I
know you didn't ask. But I wanted to move. I wanted to get
to get to my thing. My size
on with the show.
Have you not this? This was the first year that I came to the
realisation I was one of the sad people.
Oh, you poor baby. I'm actually I'm one of the sympathetic one.
So I was invited to
to all by yourself,
we will know the thing was when I walked in, of course, everyone
had kind of finished eating by around like 230.
Why would that set this up? Before we go into this? You did?
You're not there's new listeners or somebody missed the last
show.
All right. So Miss Mickey was, that's my wife. If you're really
new to the show.
She a little that's dropping it back a little notch. Just
letting you know. So Mickey was in Los Angeles. She was working.
And and you know, she's not American. And she, you know, did
we do Thanksgiving, but she's like, Yeah, whatever. That's it
basically doesn't care. And I didn't think I would care
either. And normally, I don't think I would, but I was kind of
like, well, what am I going to do? And so I was invited. I had
multiple invitations, but I got invited by some friends and they
said come on over and then you we'll take you to the UT game
afterwards and whatever. Okay, so I had actually prepped
perfectly it asked you what what wine should I bring? You said
no, no, bring champagne. And you know, I got the right champagne.
But because of the post production of the show, I wasn't
there until for you know, not just post production that like I
wanted to shave and I was a mess. I'm a mess after the show.
I'm a fit. I don't know about you, but I'm a mess and I smell
as bad. How about you
know, I actually take a shower, I clean up I put a little
bronzer on. Comb my hair a little
busted. Now that that's when you go to twit when you put the
bronzer on. Okay, so, exactly. So I'm cleaning so I'm there.
It's not that far away. But you know, so but I'm there at four
and I'm walking in and you can see everyone's like, bellies
full. They're all tucked out and I can see like it was all what
it
was this this was that you were invited to a Thanksgiving lunch
apparently because there was a game and I'll get to that. And
this was the house of a former Dell guy he's now at UT you
know, but for me so nice house. I mean, this is like whoa,
hello, some Just had been 30 people, and I and the minute I
knew a number of them were like, Oh, this is where all the
riffraff and losers with no family congeal. I was like, and
I'm walking in with two bottles of champagne like, hey, and
everyone's like, but and as you know, I was promised cowboys and
trannies. Well, well, well. The cowboy who was an actual
official oil land owning cowboy with leg left almost the moment
I came in, and he was the real deal. This guy on a saw you come
in. Well, hold on. He's so he's so real cowboy. I have it here.
He has a book out. You want to Google this? Barbecue biscuits
and beans. Chuck waggon. Cooking forward by Tommy Lee Jones. This
is how you can't get more Texas cowboy than that.
Like did Tommy Lee wrote that for me? Yeah. i Okay. You got a
shooting with Tommy Lee.
This is built. Cobble. No Cliff Tennant. Cliff tired
with time, Heiner? Yeah. And he had the hat. He had the boots.
He was a real cowboy. But he had to leave because he and I know I
would only understand later that he had to go do something with
vivo. And I'm like, Okay, what? I thought maybe he said Devo. He
said vivo. I didn't quite know what that meant. So anyway, then
there was the actually it's not fair to say tranny because I
think she's transgendered. This is a professor at at UT. And
yes, just totally spot on. and lovely. But no one told me she
was 70
in the world of atoms fantasies
wasn't exactly and she looked good for 70 No doubt about it. I
don't want to be a just like me. No, I have had like a little
different fantasy in my mind going. Anyway, and the heating
up a plate of food for me and I'm eating and everyone's kind
of like dribbling out. And so it was really sweet that they
didn't do. I think they're, they're Jewish. So they also did
a lighting of the menorah. And I've never witnessed the
lighting of the menorah. And there's a song that goes along
with it. And half the room singing the song. And then and
you're looking around, you're like, should I like, move my
lips and pretend I know the words. You know, one of those,
like, have you ever heard the lighting of the menorah song?
No. One either. And I was like, wow, okay.
Well, I'm older than you. So you beat me.
Yeah. When they was That was nice. as nice. They shared that
with us.
You know, this was the one time and 5000 years I think
770,000 years the next time Oh, 70,000 years from now. 7000 is
the next time this will which
by then I think Thanksgiving will actually have been moved.
Okay, so then it was like Alright, hurry up, we gotta go
see the game. Now I had already previously agreed to do this.
And I had not been I have not been to a live sporting event in
40 years. I think the last time was the Boston Red Sox when I
was nine. So it may about 40 years I've never been to a
stadium I've been to a stadium for a concert but you know
backstage or what a couple games a year here and there and I've
never been so I really can't remember and
that the University of Texas would have to be a real
spectacular.
It really was this is we had the stadium holds 100,000 people and
it was almost full. It was it was quite quite astounding. What
I liked a lot so you know we were dropped off to add no
parking crap and you walk right up. There's no like Gitmo
security it's just like you got your ticket go on and no like no
no pat downs, no metal detectors, you know, very low
key. And then I was it was pointed out to me what this vivo
thing was are you familiar with vivo?
You know, it rings a bell I didn't bother to google it but
that's our that's our cow. I mean our steel right that damn
cow
steer with Yeah, they run him out on that. It's not quite as
cool as the one that they have at the University of Colorado
where they run a live buffalo out on to the judge of the field
and route and he goes off at 200 yards around in a circle and
back into his cage
vivo vivo is a little slower. It's just a
big long horse steer that they run it I don't know if they run
it out. Do they run it?
They yeah the will that is more like a walk it's not like it's
not like oh this thing runs at Full Tilt and they stays in the
pan you know in the in the corner there the stadium. So we
have pretty good seats on the on the 50 yard line. No box or
anything. I like to do seats for 75 bucks and I was like wow,
that's this is what a scam This is. That was
cheap. Are you kidding cheap and
so we played to the Texas Tech. Now if you've never been to to a
ballgame, certainly not a local one. You don't know a lot of the
traditions. And there's a lot of things I had to learn which I
was just interesting that you know, I had never even heard of
hokum i What? Everyone's like, Oh, my cookers, Tucker's hook
Hoko. My guess is because of we're a long horn. And then we
have this pinky and index finger salute like the metal bands do.
That's kind of our thing.
Yeah, the Longhorn salute if you if you flip it backwards is the
sign of the devil.
Yeah, exactly. So everyone's doing that. I'm like, okay, and
then and then we have we have a cheer.
You know, our cheer. I don't really care to know it. You have
to So one side of the stadium goes tucks us and the other one
goes, fight. This is so military creative and militaristic. And
there were a couple of injuries. And, and I was, you know, first
of all,
they play taps during the injuries or Well,
you know what, while so the guy was he was he was knocked out.
It was a Texas Tech player. And you could see him like he did
this flip in the air landed on his back and the guy was out.
And so the his players, not just Texas Tech, but the UT guys
circled around him on one knee. And like, what are they doing?
Oh, that's like, out of respect. Right?
Now they're praying. That's what it looked like. That's what they
do.
It was a little intense, you know, as like, Ah, okay, so and
then see what other weird Oh, they got a penalty for
unsportsmanlike behaviour. For dancing in the endzone.
Oh, they're cracking down on this. Yeah, but
it wasn't like outrageous. He did a little high. No, it's
it's very controversial amongst sporting fans. As to what
yeah, I'm not even a fan Bentley's. Like, come on a
little bit of celebration. Hi stepped a bit. And we're all
going nuts. Like, yeah. And then you know, God, I know. I know.
And so here's to just to round out my experience, which
included of course, the University of Texas Drum Band,
who did a fine medley of Stevie Wonder and James Brown and other
soul and r&b Classics.
Did they have the Texas tradition where at the end of
the game of Texas wins, and I believe they did in this game?
41 To 16 to be exact? Yeah. Did they have a tradition where the
cheerleaders come into the stands and blow all the fans?
We left five minutes early. But what the cheerleaders do do is
each each time we score, they do the number of points, they do
backflips. So you know, so if we score a touchdown, and they do
seven backflips?
Yeah, great. Yeah. Well, it's like the Oregon duck. He does a
push up. But he does a push up of the cute cumulative score,
every time they score some of his score 49 points, he does 49
Push Ups when they score again, he does another 49 plus seven.
So I could just see, you know, I could really feel how this is
the bread and games. You know, when you when you approach this
as an outsider, essentially, and you get thrown in, in an
awakened state. You see, the similarities between the Roman
Colosseum you just see it, it could have been Christians and
lions in there and made no difference. Yeah, it was just
like, Okay, this is for your testosterone. The funny thing
was, I'm with three gay guys. And they're all testosterone.
Dup is like, Whoa,
there was this. There's been studies, by the way, which is
one of the reasons I always advise people not if you have a
losing team, like the Cal Bears, for example. You don't really
want to root for them. Because it apparently there's been some
studies that show that that sincere fans who are even
watching the game on TV have the same hormonal ups and downs as
the players on the field. So if you have to show up, it's a big
win. You know, you have the same elation as a fan that you would
if you were a player, and if you just got your ass handed to you,
you would have the same depressed feelings. So you want
to find a team that wins a lot for your own health.
Yeah, exactly. It Yes. And to round out my experience, two
seats down a lady died.
wish she had Red Raiders fan.
No, she, she was young and she was there with her husband and
their daughter and the daughter must have been you know, mid
20s. And she she you know, she just and she just die. I'm not
sure what happened. But she was dead. You know, when it was a
dead
woman? Yes. Yes. Just sitting near you.
It's like like two to two things. Two steps down. Yes.
So they brought out the medics and all this and she was dead.
She was a goner. Yeah, they're like,
they're like trying to figure out there's any breath and he
pulses nothing and I've seen dead people John, she was dead.
In the end her kids freaking out and her husband's like Like it
was weird. And then yeah and then they put her in the like
the gurney and the or not the gurney unlike a they have a
special wheelchair so they can get people out of the stands
easily. And her head just flopping back and let me that
was disturbing.
I would think so. Yes.
On the other hand, two good seats opened up a little closer.
And that was kind of nice. But it was a good one. But it really
did happen out and it was very disturbing in a kind of have to
say kind of ruined the vibe a little bit. You know, you just
kind of like looking down like
he died in the first half or the second half just before the
halftime and so we waited through half two and then even
Of course it was late but it also got really cold to the
whole thing like anyway, that was my Thanksgiving and it was
it was so it was it was an interesting to witness the game.
I felt very lonely I did honestly. And Miss Mickey's back
and she made me pancakes today so all as well people all now
let me
you probably would have felt less lonely if you knew anything
about football. I know
what do you mean I know tonnes about football that this is
Don't give me that I know how the game works I'm into that I
was into the the spirit and everything. You know the lady
dying was a little bit little downer. And it was cold and I
didn't know any I didn't know all the all the all the customs.
But I liked that. But the dinner and everything was yeah, it was
weird being alone and being kind of like part of the alone group.
You're in the alone group. You're the fifth wheel. Yeah, a
little bit a little bit. And nobody cared about the champagne
because you came late. Yeah, I drank. Well, that was just a
waste. I drank most
of it. Ah, all right. So let me get something out of the way
real quick then because everyone's emailing this. And I
think that we might have a possible to to the head
situation here. And I wasn't going to think it was it was
anything at first, I'm talking about Paul Walker, the actor who
was killed in Los Angeles.
Yeah, the Fast and Furious guy,
right. Have you seen this vehicle that he was driving? He
wasn't driving he was in he was it was a Porsche Carrera GT.
Which exploded upon impact, apparently.
Yeah, this is another one of those mysterious ISIS I thought
this was odd to this is another one of those mysterious wild
explosions is similar to the one that took out was his name
Hastings Haskell was
Hastings. Michael, here's what's wrong. Look at the picture. I
know. I owned a Porsche a long, long time ago, a a 911 Carrera.
Essentially the same car, they've been making the same
very little
has changed very little 30 years. The gas tank is in the
front. All right. Because the engine is in the bag. There's
not a lot of car unless they've changed that
known as probably still the same design event, but it's in a
bladder. But I think that gas tank is very rugged. It's
well of course the these are cars that do rallies and this
isn't there's not a lot of difference between the and I
think this was a racing version. The driver was a race car
driver. So this thing exploded in the back the like the engine
exploded. Are you kidding me? Oh, is that right? Look at look
at the pictures, the front end is intact. The hood is still
open the bonnet, I should say. So, so that makes sense.
And I didn't catch this because I actually wrote it off. I was
lacks I guess
for this I did the same No, no, I did the same. But someone
tweeted, and I'm like, holy crap, I'd forgotten about that.
And then I and then I went looking and of course it's hard
to look now which is the whole point. Attorney General Eric
Holder is appealing a judge ruling in his contempt of
Congress case where he refused to turn over documents relating
to the Fast and Furious gun walking controversy. And there
is no better way to confuse the public and to get their mind off
of this than to kill someone who's attached to a different
Fast and Furious
wow that's a good one and and I admire that kind of oddball
thinking but
you know it's not that if you really really really think about
it and killing killing someone for your own benefit is done all
we we drone toddlers these days who gives a crap? So why
wouldn't like oh man and this and this is like John, this is
only like 10 days ago that this came down. And he's trying to
appeal and we can't have this be news of course. So what's the
best thing to do? We've already seen how fast and furious when
the movie came out, it also covered up another piece of this
saga. Remember that? No, the new movie came out. And we and we
talked about it and it had basically, obviously, it's like
a Google bomb. Now if you Google Fast and Furious, you're not
going to Well, let's try it. If I just do,
right, you're gonna get this is a essentially a blocking
mechanism. Yes. For Google searches
for anything for the just, it's like changing the word gay,
meaning happy and funny to homosexual. It's changing the
word so fast and furious. Paul Walker dies Paul Walker, Paul
Walker Wikipedia for the Fast and Furious IMDb Fast and
Furious. Let's see if he not even on the first page. No,
nothing on the first page. Let's look for the second page, which
is one of the biggest scandals that has been ongoing. Fourth,
what is it? No. Three presidencies? Fasting and
furious Fast and Furious is always a different name under
Bush. Yes, pretty sure. Yes, it did. You're right. So not until
the second page. There's some book on Amazon, which is let me
see what it is. Fast and Furious Barack Obama's bloody a scandal
and it's shameless cover up. So second page, below the below the
crease, if you will online. We should
we reiterate for some of our listeners who may have forgotten
and some that don't know this, about the case in Chicago, where
the one guy was one of the Sinaloa Cartel guys was busted.
Yeah. And he blew the way he actually the lawyers are going
after the government for discovery, based on the fact
that Fast and Furious was a gun running operation, to send guns
to the Sinaloa Cartel to load them up. So they could, so they
wouldn't take over all the Mexican gangs
and the drugs, the drugs that are being smuggled in? Yes.
And we would be we would be partners with them. And we
wouldn't have to deal with all these other crazy guys. And we'd
have one group that we would just work with them. And that
would be good.
You know what the weird thing is? I think that if you went to
the American American public, he went on television and said,
every Heil everybody, you know, we got it, we got to beat we got
a rule. So what we do we decide to we're gonna partner with one
of these Mexican agency we'll call an age and Mexican
agencies. And so we can run and run everything. I don't think
you have a problem with that, do you? And we'd all go like now
great. Don't you think? Don't you think ultimately, it could
be sold? We can sell anything to the American public?
Yes, up to a point. But the problem is the talk shows and
every because they're always looking for material. Right? Try
to cause it cause trouble. So they'd be bringing this about,
oh, it's on it's sinful. I'm just here Huckabee. Right now
since
it's in them, we just pumped those guys with some drug money.
Everybody in anybody can be bought.
Right? Yeah, you could actually do that
I got this beautiful email, which I'm, I'm considering
whether to republish, it's too long to read from one of our
producers who really didn't in the newsletter think we might
have to, and he wrote this beautiful explanation of how
Iran and Iraq and Syria and how all of that really fits
together. And he reminded me that, you know, Iraq and Syria,
those are just those weren't countries. You know, there were
just drawings on the map that the British made up,
you know, so but we get says it's all part of World War One.
Yes.
And so and we get it all into our brain that these are
countries and, and we don't understand how we I don't think
we can comprehend he had a pretty good line about it, how
you could get a knife in the back from some guy whose great
grandfather was disrespected by your great grandfather. That's
how that's how the culture is in majorities of the Middle East.
We have no concept of that we have concept of love and
happiness and peace and unicorns and rainbows and and you know,
we're not we're not trained that way. But I think we could be and
maybe maybe we should get a little bit of that or at least
study what's going on with other people so we understand it. I
think it's the the not understanding that confuses
people the most you don't I mean,
yeah, well, that may be the reason you want to dumb down the
public so you don't have to deal with make letting because
understanding is is dangerous.
I must mention that. Even though my my Thanksgiving was not
exactly optimal. Although I thank everybody who made it fun
for me. Luckily, you and I did a great job of ruining Mickey's
Thanksgiving because she listened to the show before
their Thanksgiving dinner. And and I think the talk about the
butter ball and the white goop that comes out of the salmon
that put her Oh and the turkey they had this turkeys like I'm
not eating that was like a butterball special.
That stinks.
She was so put off by it. Because you ruined your thanks.
Ruined my ruin my Thanksgiving dinner.
White goop that comes out of the salmon. The salmon stinks. Yes.
Hey, yeah, happy. The AIDS day. Yeah, AIDS Day Happy age today.
I truly wish that that the pharmaceutical industry stops
ruining lives of people and killing them with a lot of their
solutions. And we we figured out what's really going on here and
people awaken to that That's my wish. And I commemorate and
remember the people who have died of HIV and actually of AIDS
who I have lost. But today is not just AIDS day. Today is a
start of national impaired driving Prevention Month by
presidential proclamation and minority Enterprise Development
Week. I wonder what that is
they go hand in hand.
What is minority Enterprise Development Week? Huh? Just a
week this week we celebrate of Yeah, I know. Hey, minorities,
you got a week. We celebrate America's minority enterprises
renew our commitment to helping them grow and look with pride
towards the promise of the future. Thank you, Mr.
President. Very nice. Well, then, I guess all I can say is
in the morning to you John C. Dvorak.
already. Yeah. Okay. Well, in the morning, you Adam curry in
the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the
air subs in the water and all the games and all the nights out
there. And I'd always like
to say in the mornings everyone in the chat room, no agenda
stream.com. No agenda chat dotnet in the morning to El Cid
computador, who got kicked out. kicked out of the chat room.
Why did El Cid computador get kicked out of the chat room?
Because he was saying this is boring. Move on with the show?
Oh, well, that's the that's the legal approach. If you start
complaining about the show, you get kicked out get kicked out of
the chat room. It's not boring. No, it was boring. I'd say it
was boring or historic. Adam was says well, Adams says it's
boring at the drop of a hat. But I'm a little more liberal.
Oh, by the way, I just got an A note. Apparently, the Carrera GT
is a mid engine. So that may put the gas tank
No, no, no, it's a Yeah, it is a mid engine which is that's what
they call it tip. But it's indications right behind the
seat. But it's for all practical purposes. If you open that back
thing up, there's your engine, right?
Where's the gas tank on that thing?
Well, let's do that. Let's consult the book of knowledge.
worshop U r s is it sch E. Carrera ca r r e r a I believe?
Yeah, see gas tank location. That would be my Google search.
Trying to learn Google.
Do you have it? It looks like it's in might be in the back
actually.
If it's in the back that would be surprising. Because
it was surprised me too. I'm so sure it was in the front. I
can't Did you find it? I can't find it. I'm
looking right now. There's a fuel pump there and there's a
guest think it was his gas tank location.
It would need a fuel tank somewhere.
It's in the front. Yeah, it's in the front. That's what it looks
like
I cuz I thought it was I'm pretty sure the gas had
that back if you here's the back. Here's a look at the video
I'm looking at images. Image of the back if you open the lid,
there is a engine there. The mid engine used to be sitting on top
of that rear axle. It's not hanging off the back like a
dragster. Right. So
the wiki PDS is not telling me where the gas tank location is.
Here's a
picture of the of the bonnet which is in front it's right
under the tire. There's a gas tank big giant gas tank not much
room in this thing. Yeah, I don't know who it is mid mid
engine is mid engine. It's not like a Ferrari mid engine, which
is literally where your elbow is.
So you know and there were all kinds of like speed tracks
everywhere like they'd been pulling doughnuts and stuff I'm
thinking they were dodging the drone is what I'm thinking
they're trying to outrun it just you laugh
why would they know a drone was on them when they have the
electronics in the car BB BB BB BB target lock target lock evade
evade evade.
Yo you Yes. Crap.
Don't is because the guy was showing off the car
that no this was I'm getting all kinds of messages. Like I
literally have text messages flying. Apparently, the news of
his death came out before it happened yesterday. Okay, but we
need a little more time to look into this, but
this is the kind of stuff that so this is all obfuscation.
Yeah. But now the information is especially if this was some evil
doing your drone which is the more interesting possibility.
Maybe this is taken target to potshots at people. Well yeah, I
mean that guy doing donuts down there last blow them out of
there. But listen,
we have these cars exploding on impact. Yeah, in the movies.
Sure. In the movies is just really doesn't happen that often
John?
No, I know. In fact, if you look at most of there are a lot of
these you know, one man, we leaked.
We fix it by now fix that with the Pinto. Okay, you know, the
exploding gas tank trick is old. We fix that, don't you?
Remember? We have lawsuits about that. So this isn't supposed to
just happen. And it doesn't I just I'm I'm hard pressed to
believe it
wrong idea that we've actually got active drones in Los Angeles
Basin. Well, blowing people up well, and they've been there's
been at least two dramas done on various I think this is exactly
the plot. I think Castle had one where the guy was blown up by a
drone. Yeah, this
is and this is the plot. And we've had all these houses
explode of natural gas leaks, which is another thing which I'm
sorry, the MythBusters who everyone always thinks are all
this and that. And a bag of chips. They couldn't even
replicate it. They were trying to do the boring Jason Bourne
thing where he blew up the house with a gas. It's very difficult
to blow up a house with gas.
Yeah, you can kill people inside a house with gas easily. Or
lightly.
Yeah, but blowing it up is not. So. Yeah, um, I will take the
crackpot side on this that it's a great way to distract from a
heated issue very hot, hot, hot. With a court case and a federal
judge against the highest person in the justice department in the
country. The the Eric Holder for lying or being in contempt was
being held in contempt of Congress. That's a big deal. If
he needs to hide something when he's basically covering for his
boss who was already in a weak situation. I think an actor is
expendable. And maybe they you know, maybe we tried maybe they
brought in the the Israeli spy guy. I mean, we need news we
need News News news. It'd be
a Hollywood crawl, you know,
fuck it. Let a train go off the rails. We need to do something
people.
Actually a train did go off the rails. Yeah. Gee, curiously,
you don't say. So these I'm not putting our government beyond
doing these kinds of crazy things. That's all I'm smoke
everywhere for killed as train derails. At least four people
were killed and 63 others injured when the Metro North
train in New York jumped the tracks. On Sunday. Today.
I am getting news from the chat room that this particular
vehicle is known to catch fire when it crashes of the 90 or so
crashes. There have been fires and more than 30 of them yet
fires. But they crashed sideways. I don't know. It's
look, I'm not a forensics expert. We
don't know. We don't know.
We don't know. But it is good luck for holder isn't it? Isn't
that? Isn't he just going home like oh shoot that sucks?
Well, the way things are going with the I mean, we do have a
new we the news came out, you know that as they keep dribbling
out the Snowden reports and the latest one being of course, that
they're using the information to blackmail, which we said from
the very beginning of this thing that the only reason you do this
kind of data collection is to blackmail people so you can have
political advantage. And we had a clip which we didn't reprise
around somewhere where they were the holder in particular who's
already in trouble was asked specifically if the information
collected by the NSA could be used for political advantage by
one party or the other and holder refused to answer the
question in front of Congress and said he'd has to answer it
some other time. If you remember that
if you were to label that clip today what would you call it?
Holder something holder lies again it would be something
apology
Hold on let me risk holder risks contempt
This is a tough one John.
Let's get holders name in it.
Well, yeah, how many? How many holder things Do you think are
Amen
probably 10 And they're all worth playing over again.
Oh second let me just I can find this home I got I got a system
oh here we go we have drilling holder grassy demands apology
holder risk contempt risk contempt of crumb once holder
does it grilling holder apology holder risk contempt at
Northwest
they the risk contempt one?
Okay, hold on a second, where is it? Risk contempt? Would that be
from 2011?
To Time flies? Okay, it would it would have to be after the after
Snowden first appeared? That would be kind of a key. Okay,
let me see 12
Now, so this, this can't be it. Holder risk Contempo see without
it, you never know, open? We'll just try this one. If this isn't
it, then then we'll move on Hold on a second ago,
that helps that they were not aware of the tactics that were
employed as a result of that the information that is contained in
that February 4. letter to you
is fast and furious. This is it? No.
Oh. All right. Let me know. We'll look forward for for the
next show.
I will look for it and sits around whatever the case.
Yeah, as I was saying this is you know, it's a big deal. We
have the president already under a lot of stress. Not that it
matters. I mean, he's in his in his in, but I think now would be
the time for Hillary Clinton to to announce she's running.
I think it'd be premature. Yeah, really, one thing they're making
hay with is ready for Hillary campaign. Right? Big time. So I
get a memo every day and you ready? If you can give us our
feed, give us $3 Give us $5 Because we got to talk Hillary
into running. It's important that you run and it's with your
help. Because of you. She'll make the decision to run we've
got to we've got to make her run is the Dode she's not behind
this whole thing. I mean, dumb to the rds Democrats to believe
this.
Oh, well, I'm having dinner with some tonight so we'll find out.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, indeed. I don't know if I had mentioned
it. But tonight is our monthly instalment. Oh, it's another
instalment Oh
yeah, they come over to your place No,
no, no that next time is our place a tonight is I think
Lori's place and I'm well we'll talk about later what I'm going
to do well let's
play the Sarah Silverman clips which is kind of the way
liberals think
oh boy is this from the hurt her special I
didn't put in the really bad stuff
because I actually caught this special yes
you know maybe liberals are a little more open minded a little
more progressive. You know maybe conservatives are a little less
progressive a little more faggot ish
I saw that she went into the whole thing about why pick on
the Republicans Yeah, it was it was very it was very bigoted.
It was it was completely bigoted. And there was no and
this is this is the left wing approach to everything is like
point to finger tell everyone else they're a bit bigots and
then be bigot be the biggest biggest of them all. Yeah, I
look up the definition of bigot. By the way to understand it. I
found
that her entire special at some points. Even Yes. Hard to
believe even for Adam somewhat shocking.
Yes, some of it was pretty gross. But there was a couple of
one liners in there that were
I laughed out very loudly and a couple of things. Yeah.
That's what actually the only reason I watched this that you
know, this woman I've never thought to her to actually be
that funny. Now Me neither. She's She. I believe she
probably writes well for other people to edit. So I said, I'm
going to watch the whole it's only an hour's short. I'm going
to watch and see if I can if I actually laugh, and I laughed
about it left a couple times. There's a number of them that
were quite the some of them were pretty, pretty filthy. But it
was like, Yeah, it's funny, but
but it was indeed a very it's a perfect example of a radical
progressive person.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. And it was it was a little a little shocking at
times. But also, I didn't know she had I was just she had some
funny stuff. I have to admit there was this
is the funniest I've ever seen. There was some dude jokes in
there. That was just good. It was like, oh my god, okay, you
nailed it. You nailed it. But so this so that's why that's why
that that that stayed for work. Well, that particular thing
didn't really bother me because As you know, like, whether it's
comedy, just comedy we've got, oh, by the way, what I don't
like is when she goes into the hole, you know, Funny or Die,
and then you know about voter ID and when she gets political
outside of her show, just to be political, and then then it's
doing the same material that then it becomes a little
disturbing. You know, not like, not like so here's the guy that
I'm, I'm just loving. I'm just loving this guy. And I'd
forgotten how much I like him because he's insane. And, but in
you know, insane people and children and drunks, they they
speak the truth. Kanye West. Who is if you really want to dismiss
the guy, particularly now that he's married, he has a kid with
Kim Kardashian. They're getting married. So that whole thing is
bizarre. But because of he's weak minded. I think he's, I
mean, he's not dumb. But he's just he hasn't. He has no
filters, which I like. He says stuff that comes out. And it's
like, oh, man, I'm glad someone just came out and said it. So he
did this radio interview, I think it might be in Miami or
Los Angeles. And a lot of people are saying, Oh, he got schooled,
Kanye got schooled. He is that guy again? By the way? Thank
God, I got Kanye, Jr.
Where's he said some things that I thought were right on. And I'm
like, Yeah, you know, if all of us could just be honest, from
time to time and just say things and not be so politically
correct, then I can't believe I'm actually promoting Kanye.
We don't get it like that. When I tell you only seven black
billionaires look at that marginalisation and we feel like
we happy because me and Rick Ross got me back, or I got a
spread outside a couple of us where they put a black
president, man, let me tell you something about George Bush and
oil money and Obama and no money. People want to say, Obama
can't make these moves. So he's not executing. That's because he
ain't got those connections. But people don't have the same level
of connections as Jewish people. Black people don't have the same
connection as oil people. You know, we don't know nobody that
got a nice house. You know, we don't know, nobody would pay for
like that, too. When we doubt, you know, that could just put us
back or put us in a corporation, you know, we ain't in a
situation can you guarantee that your daughter could get a job at
this radio station. But if you own this radio station, you
could guarantee that that's what I'm talking about.
Now. So and when he says that, you know, black people don't
have the connections that the juice I'm like, I gotta love the
guy and I went back, and I had to get his Hurricane Katrina
speech. Do you remember that? He's there with Mike Myers. Do
you remember this, John? Yeah, vaguely. It's just I just gotta
play it again. Because they
really I mean, yeah, I'm glad you admire what he's saying. But
to me, it's just like, he's just like a douchey. complainer. Yes,
he's got plenty of connections.
No, no, come on. That's not true. He has zero connections
off. He
wouldn't be as far gotten as far as he is. He's got he got it all
doing it over the internet on his own website that he
designed. I think so.
But the point is, he's talking about real who really runs the
show. Now he's talking about oil money. He's talking about
Israeli lobby. I mean, he's using Kanye words. He's using
Kanye words, but he sees what's going on. And that's not bad for
people to hear that. But he gets dismissed. So sometimes, even I
got to stick up for the guy. And when I went back to it, so this
was live and Mike Myers and Kanye West of at the Katrina
telethon. There's which I these things I already hate these
things by themselves already. Because the water in the
blankets never gets to people
now over 25 feet of water where there was one city streets and
thriving neighbourhoods, and everyone has
this really we have to talk like this as we're reading the
teleprompter because it's so bad and so sad. And we're so
fortunate. We're not dead.
They portray us in the media. If you see a black family, it says
they're looting. See a white family says they're looking for
food.
He's right John. He's right that's what happened during the
Katrina coverage. Black families what the news will be there
looting white families that are looking for food he's right.
And you know, it's been five days because most of the people
are black. And even for me to complain about I will be a
hypocrite because I've tried to turn away from the teacher TV
because it's too hard to watch. I've even been shopping before
even given a donation so now I'm calling my business manager
right now to see what's what is the biggest amount I can give
and just
always going completely off the rails and everyone's like
telling Mike Meyers jump back in there and then comes the beauty
part
that wants to do anything that we can help with with the setup
the way America is set up to help the poor, the black people
the the less well off as slow as possible getting back on Red
Cross is doing everything they can we already He realised a lot
of the people that could help are at war right now fighting
another way and they they've given them permission to go down
and shoot us.
And subtle been even
Mike Myers goes right back to the very funny but he comes to
the money shot.
I mean, devastating as the lasting damage to the survivors
will to rebuild and remain in the area, the destruction of the
spirit of the people of Southern Louisiana and Mississippi may
end up being the most tragic loss of all,
George Bush doesn't care about black people.
And then they cut him off. Yeah. I'm sorry.
I think early Obama doesn't either. So Well, no. And I
think that Kanye might even say that. Anyway,
that's right. You keep planning about a machine. The problem is
he puts everything in racial racial terms. But that's all
that is not it's a machine that's doing you know, it's like
a system or system if there's a systematic problem, that's
different.
Right. But he is speaking to a very common denominator from
which he from whence he calmbirth as well. You know what
I mean? Yeah,
well, he's just plays into the hands of the machine to be the
way I see it
now. Well, I think when people hear we had a
you know, here was a guy's telling it like it is okay,
that's great. What difference does it make, but okay,
because no one else hears Dennis Kucinich when they when he's
telling them like,
they were listening to him while he until they robbed him, and it
was routed by his own party.
No one know, John, no one really listens it. We
were. He was talking. I never said anyone was listening. This
is my point.
People when Kanye talks, unfortunately, people listen.
And so maybe this is how sad it is. But maybe they get a little
inkling go, Hey, wait a minute, maybe I should Google that. And
you know, and then before you know it, they see in the show
notes. Hey, what's the show that has Kanye in it? And then all of
a sudden there ain't no agenda. To see my evil plan.
Well, you're an idealist today. After being the loner. Oh, I see
what happened. yesterday. She showed up she came home. Yeah.
Let's, let's thank our Oh, we
should shortlist right. We started off and you went off the
rails? I did. And now we have people to thank which our
producers
which is very much the Hollywood system yet, ironically enough,
your executive producer and he sent in a note
Mark workman I'm familiar with his name. I think this this must
put them into a knighthood because I know he's supported us
before.
Yeah, this does put him into knighthood. It should be on the
on there. Hopefully. He's on the knighthood list. Yes. Yes, he
is. I see my goodness and James and Mark. He wants to he's
actually a baron. He's the Baron of gold's gold's
Gulch, golf, golf. I really like what he says. When he says he's
the Baron. No.
He's got his thing here. Oh, okay. Six, two, and I think he's
a baron. Well, I do some research on this who's gonna be
knighted? Okay. Because he's got his black knight accounting
here.
Well, a black knight.
He says he was passed. This is not a black knight. He wants to
be a black knight. He's got his accounting here. And it's
indicates that he's a knight as of this check, which doesn't
give him a black night.
No, black night is only if if you're on the list and we forget
to do it during the show. Something like that.
But not it's our it means we screwed up.
Yeah, but but we don't do the accounting, right. If you
send us all your accounting, and then we give you the knighthood
that you deserve. You're not a black knight.
You're so harsh, John.
I'm just saying we have to have rules. Because otherwise it
demeans that was some of the real you know, big shots, Dukes.
Yeah, they get pissed off. And he wants to be the bearer and
well when you get to bear in the hood, then you'll be the bearer
and yeah, let's you've already had a knighting and you need a
three I think to get Baron. Anyway mark is in Dayton, Ohio.
And he says he's got his accounting he says he wants a
jingle okay. He says Hillary delicious which apparently is
his favourite clip he's asked for it before little girl yay.
Although it says DEA here something I can't read the
little girl yeah, Hillary what difference does it make? So
here's the Hillary delicious little girl yeah, what
difference does it make you know that one that what difference
does it make? Which is Yeah,
but I don't. I don't know if I have that one handy. I don't
think you have a
compliment I mentioned this to people if you have a complicated
request, make sure to send it to Adam in advance because I just
want to get to know it. I don't read the notes until the show.
I mean, I know I have the Hillary somewhere but that was
for a previous donation and it wasn't requested again and it's
not easy. I don't know I feel bad that I wasn't ready for it.
Well, we can play it later. But give them a give them the one
that really makes them laugh which is delicious. It's almost
too
delicious to believe my friends. I got those. Okay.
We'll we'll dig up the other one and evergreen it. What
difference does it make? I can do it Hey, difference does it
make line
of the day from the chat room? John doesn't like Black Knights
Carsten over Schwartz Nielsen in Denmark. Hi, I'm Angie and
Yocum. You'll Hum I have to support you during this fake
giving. With this five times 6969 donation at 348 45. I
should become a knight and you can call me sir Schwartz.
Schwartz, Schwartz,
says Schwartz would be one way of saying I can only thank you
from the depths of my rebellious soul. I've always found the
stuff in the media nagging my mind like a splinter of decaying
phoniness. You guys are stellar in proving that I was right.
Keep it coming. Although I'm sometimes a little behind in
listening to the episodes I've always ahead when discussing the
so called news from the compromised media with friends
and acquaintances. Their Schwartz of donation murmee
Thank you very much and we shall of course put you in the library
in the lineup for knighting to become sir Schwartz looking
forward to it.
We got James Francis Francis Francis James McClure chloro
sends in a note text in honour of my son's 29th birthday and
making the donation at 333 33 in His name, His birthday is on
November 29. This will be the third time James has been an
executive producer so with this donation it becomes a night he
lives in Austin and we met Adam in the Hot Pocket store. That's
right 65th birthday is November 30. So this would be a big
birthday weekend. We really enjoy no agenda and we're happy
to support the work you do and then he's has a PF saying he's
looking forward to the chilli recipe. And he mentioned that
his wife and many other Texans that he knows think beans do not
belong and chilli oh and income compared to competent chilli
competitions nowadays even though the one that I want it
with this rule did not apply. You don't it's just beef. No
beans. There's no beans if Deb with the text I've
ever used I have a confession to make beans are
filler what
I made your recipe. Yeah. And and I read it was it was right
and I put beans in it.
And it was it's been years most of the beans that I'm saying
that this had beans in it. So it's not like I omitted them.
There's just an aside. I made the recipe. And I decided I
would watch a movie which I watched lots of movies with
Mickey but never like stuff like Pacific Rim. So I had a bowl and
I'm watching on the couch and I'm watching Pacific Rim. And
you know and I'm like can totally engrossed this movie go
back in the kitchen and get something to drink. And I'd left
the gas on
you burn burn
to a crisp was completely. I heard like we know that. Oh
crap, the gas is still on. So I can't prove how good it was to
anybody.
You didn't have a bowl I had Yeah,
I had the bowl on the couch and then the rest have gotten taller
the empty bowl on the couch that was eating I was eating a bowl
but the pan with everything still when I made a big batch.
It burnt to a crisp.
Oh yeah, well that's a fascinating story. He puts
mushrooms in his chilli which I would not recommend with this
dish by the way mushrooms provide natural naturally
occurring MSG which helps with the mouthfeel Okay, well that
was interesting. That was an interesting at all. Anyway, so
Jamie so just
I'm sorry, you bring up your damn chilli and it's
interesting. I'd say I burnt the recipe and it's not interesting.
Exactly because you didn't get you didn't have any feedback on
the on the relative quality of the chilli recipe onward. Onward
to a dentist del Prado in Littleton, Colorado to 2222. As
we ponder all these things, which we should be thankful for
this season, let me suggest a few candidates. Cranberry Are
you flavoured jello? Functioning ballpoint pens and the French
yes the French for it is so easy to blame them for everything we
dislike. Yeah, enclose a torrent of two's I liked that
that's nice torrent of two's I like that is that for making it
rain or that just in general?
Well, he didn't say anything about making it rain thank
goodness keep the collectors will obey and find writing is
for me sent me a ballpoint pen for the junkyard. Now about a
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are true heroes. Thank you for your courage. All right, well,
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Our formula is this we go out we had people in the mouth
I must say though, that that Pacific Rim movie is is very
much at its wonder summit didn't do much better than it did.
Dad JC buzzkill Jr, feels the same way they went to see it at
the theatres at a big screen and said that if you understood that
it was just a mindless really well done action movie. Yeah, it
should have done really well at the box shows. But Hollywood is
the one who gave up on it. They said screw it. We're gonna lose
our ass on this, but no money in the marketing. Let's just skip
it.
I also watched The Confessions of a Dangerous Mind upon your
recommendation. Ah, and I'm thinking it's total bull crap.
This guy in the movie is kind of sad. And you're right George
Clooney produced I think directed he's also painted as
the like the CIA handler. And if this was you know, the movie
says this is based on hundreds of interviews and they get like
Dick Clark in there and stuff. And it's personal journal. And
it's bullcrap. You know, the stories the way they go down
bullcrap. It's just bullcrap. This is a guy, and he's still
alive. This Chuck Barris. Yeah, he's a fantasy. He's just
fantasising. It's just making us trying to make us like guys
insane. I think he was insane. He was no CIA hitman. Bullcrap
that which made the movie a little disappointing because and
I was like, Oh, really?
Well, I always thought I thought the movie was more of a comedy
and I liked it. I liked the Clooney character. Clooney
always plays one of these guys does is around him so much. But,
yeah, okay. So you didn't think it was even worth watching?
Yeah, no, it's not. No, I would not recommend it. Okay, now, I
like it from a historical television producer standpoint,
it's interesting. You know, if that's kind of how the you know,
it's that feels kind of real, how the show is get on the air
and how it came to be and, you know, the board room and all
that. And it's nice to see the
you know, what was interesting in that movie to me. And I think
this had to do with Clooney and and an homage to Hollywood. And
I never noticed this before, but they have a silhouette shot of
Drew Barrymore coming to the door. Yes. And it is the
silhouette of the Barrymore family.
It's funny you say that that's the opening of the movie. Yeah,
yeah. And it's stunning. I agree.
It's like, holy shit. I had no idea. She looks like John
Barrymore, and all these other very big chin and all the rest
of it.
She does. Yeah. But it's great. She's, she's, she's fantastic.
She's sexy. Trooper Barrymore is just outrageously sexy. You
don't think?
Yeah, no, I really admire her. Yeah. All right. Onward. Did he
do good news, that we're not getting much of it yet a little
bit. Isn't the story in The New York Times about this? But it's
generally I think we're trying to avoid I'm looking at the MSN
homepage right now. They're talking about the Broncos bus in
Kansas City and John Stamos, and health site. We're where's the
thing about the Chinese moonshot coming up on Monday?
You took my clip China is on the moon.
China will begin its mission to land on the moon on Monday the
Chunga three lunar prep were being launched ads 1:30am local
time from the sheet and Satellite Launch Centre. It was
the rocket system has functioned perfectly in all four generals
inspections. Everything matches up perfectly with a launch
environment. Also the weather has been really good in Sioux
town tomorrow actually stage officials good weather procedure
launcher procedure.
If it's successful the mission will be the first time that any
country has landed on the moon for nearly 14 years will also be
first a softer landing on any extra terrestrial surface the
mission was see an astronomical telescope installed on the moon
the first ever in the history of lunar exploration and extreme
ultraviolet camera on the lander is designed to map environmental
changes on the earth.
What would newscasters that from?
That was from CeCe Javis from China.
Let's listen to the American version
something rather different final sorry the British version
operations are underway for China's first attempt to land a
spacecraft on the moon Liftoff is expected in the next few
days. If successful, it will be the first moon landing in more
than 40 years. China says it wants to conduct research and
prepare the way for manned missions. The prize would be to
find a way to exploit the moon's natural resources
so amazing that it took us to China 40 years and they still
can't get a guy up there. Because it was so easy 40 years
ago through the Van Allen belts and everything is just so easy.
She
is very healthy. Yeah, of course the most of those guys lived a
long life so maybe a little radiation is not that bad for
you. Well, this by the way is true.
Yeah, and I'm thinking that you know, they they need to put
those new studios in China to good use so it's about time to
fake it
His way anyway, there's a triple play. This is the only other
clip I have of this which is what exactly they are doing with
the with these probes and yeah, I know what they're really
doing. I think the Brits got it right. They're looking for maybe
if there's enough platinum up there, they can somehow ship
some of it back.
Well we don't know this already. You don't we gave up when we
when we landed there all those times. We don't really leave.
Thank you. So So
taka, the Chango three mission will achieve three firsts number
one space observation from the moon. This is the dream of many
astronomers because atmosphere wind, snow and pollution don't
obstruct visibility as they do on Earth. Number two, we have an
ultraviolet camera on the lander to monitor the Earth. This
camera is different from the one used by America's Apollo 16.
Ours can see the formation of the Earth's atmosphere and its
density change. It's better than a satellite, which can only
record data section by section as it orbits around the Earth.
On the moon, it can absorb half of Earth at a time without
moving. This is something people have always wanted to do. Number
three, we will be the first to learn the structure and layers
of the moon 100 metres below its surface with radars installed at
the bottom of the rover. The rover drives on the lunar
surface. It will be as if it can cut as see what's 100 metres
below three highlights of what no other countries have done so
far.
Well, I'm sad China's Great I'm sad that they're not. They're
not putting the dude up there. I'm ready for that. I'm ready.
Yeah, they
probably will.
I'm ready for it. Yeah, you know,
they got plenty of dudes to put up there.
I'm still sceptical. I've just really am I know
nothing after they went up there. There's nothing up there.
They took some rocks back. And that's that and the Chinese
barely got one gramme. We, according to this this I forget
who it was one of the Presidents gifted China with one gramme of
moon rocks which apparently they studied to death and fat enough
they found anything worth going by now
it's like the things do change so we have
funny you always say that oh you know there's no there's never
this never happen but then you you make make the claim on one
show I don't remember the exact number that there are Israeli
moon colonies.
No, I've never first of all I've never said Israeli second I've
never said colonies. I said space elevator and Moon bases is
very different.
Okay, Moon Base
Ducky, but I'm I'm curious to see how they, how they, how this
will be portrayed how it's gonna
be downplayed in our media. I can guarantee it. They won't
show them when we shut our every actually. So it's
just essentially they're dumb. They're just dumb because we
know there's nothing up there. We haven't landed there in 40
years because there's nothing nothing at all. Nothing. And now
they're going back so they're dumb. Okay, is that what I
supposed to believe angle? I'm supposed to believe that they're
dumb. Well, I'm asking,
I don't know whether you're supposed to believe it or not,
but I think it could be sold. I wouldn't even take it. Here's my
approach. If I was doing the the counter public relations on it,
it would be the Chinese are just trying to make it appear, you
know that they're just trying to catch up to the Russians and the
Americans, we've long since given up on his crap. And we
actually have little vehicles on Mars, which is a planet that's
way out there. It's nowhere near the moon. And it goes around and
around. It's one to say,
oh, it's New Mexico, what are you talking about? It's one
state over not that far.
And it's the we've gotten to all that direction and so that the
Chinese are just way behind, then it's just a way to, it'll
be used to demean them. Meanwhile, I'm listened to Van
cat. And there's they're talking about one thing or another, and
they start talking about Africa and the Central African
Republic, which looks like the next hotspot where there's going
to be some sort of
car, you have to say car to be official,
CA R A R Yeah. And so this is one guy, this this guy from the
Atlantic group who's on the they have this little panel
discussion on van cat. At the end of the news segment. It's
actually kind of interesting. But this guy goes off on on the
way we look at China and the way the Chinese look at China, I
think, and he's got a little thing at the end, which I don't
quite get it, I want you to analyse it. But listen to this
China's in Africa perspective, which is pretty much our
thinking, to a point
to have a new basis out, right? I mean, it's very easy for them
to come to this faith, state and work from there. So obviously,
France has an interest.
I think the French are feeling embarrassed that they've really
lost their foothold in Africa. It's a slap in the face of
national pride. If you look at today, right now, what happened
today, what was the most important thing that happened
today in Africa, it took place in Kenya, where they inaugurated
a I believe it was in the neighbourhood of for a $14
billion rail line leaking East Africa through Kenya, all funded
by the Chinese. This is a huge deal. In the old days, you would
have seen the President of France down there. In charge of
this, it would have been a French operation. This was a
Chinese operation. And the future of Africa is in the hands
of the Chinese. And what's going on now is that the Western
powers France specifically here are I think, trying to be a
little bit too old colonial for their own good.
This is the as we were saying earlier with countries like
France are haunted, by the way they've by inaction in the past,
get
over it. Get over it. It's a brave new world. The old
we're talking about real people being killed here in the Central
African Republic.
And I'm talking about real politic in the 21st century.
Yes, you're right. But do we see again, do we see the mass
protests in the streets, saying that we have to do something for
these people in Central Africa? Did we see this going on in
Darfur? Or did we see it go on in Somalia? Well, no, you know,
we we did not humanitarian interventions are not popular
among nation states unless economic interests are at stake.
And that's a real politic reality that a lot of
conservatives and liberals have a hard time swallowing, but it
doesn't make it any less true.
Right? Well, the elites have no problem swallowing that because
they go out there and kill everybody and bomb the whole the
whole deal. drove them hey, you know, the but some news came out
today, which kind of fits into that, that the Eastern African
states are going to create a monetary union. This is Kenya,
Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda and Burundi are going to have a
common market and a single union, monetary union unit.
They're talking about the African Euro. And they're
talking about doing that. So this is the EAC the East African
Community. So it's, it's part of, you know, obviously Kenya
has to be a part of
that. This has to be a Chinese initiative. Well, I know what I
know what they should do. Bitcoin
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If only we had the money to do a game show. And not great.
That's good. That's very good coin but it is as Taylor Swift
that this and Elon
Musk. Yeah, I was. I was actually think Elon Musk is
smart. He started accepting Bitcoins for the for that the
battery car of his. Yeah, I'm calling he should do that he
should do that.
He knows it's a scam is risky.
Anyway. So I think you're right. I think this this has China has
written all over it. And they're, of course going to, you
know, underwrite this new currency. They're talking about
10 years, it definitely takes 10 years to to do something like
this. Yeah,
they don't. They're sick of us pushing everybody around with
our Euro dollars. But the question is that, wait a minute,
did you ever hear about this $14 billion rail line?
No, I'm not. I've never heard of that at all, of course. So the
Chinese
put this rail line in that's that's essentially hooking the
countries up that you mentioned. Yeah. Into the union. Yep. And
now they're going to do this. These guys are really out
playing us big time.
And this is why I always get so mad because all we when we think
of Africa here, it's all these little piddly NGOs, nonprofit
5013 C corpse, who are bringing books for the poor children in
Kenya, tell you Don't kid yourself. These people are going
to own us that they probably already do. Is being in these
countries are? Yeah, the shore there's poverty, but it's not
like we don't have poverty. Crikey, almighty, we got some
poverty in this country. It's just you know, it's just it's
got an old Nikes on, you know, so it doesn't look all that bad.
You don't have flies on your face. But well, but these
countries in brings
me to another series of clips, but continue.
Well, it actually brought me to an email about San Francisco, if
we can just do you need to stay on Africa?
No, I think we're done with Africa. I just wanted to get
this point over. So everybody, you know, knows that we're still
looking at this. And this is getting worse by the minute.
And but we're being fooled, we're helpless. And we're being
fooled into thinking that you're Africa's helpless, which is
exactly the other way around. In fact, they're so they're so
they're walking out on climate conferences, because we're not
paying them. That's what's going on. Yeah, I got a rant from Nick
about Silicon Valley, because we were talking about the rat, not
Nick. No, producer Nick, I don't know if good, no, because he
works at a company. He doesn't want me to give you his last
name. Okay. And this is about the the arrogant Silicon Valley
types in San Francisco and the rents and all the way we were
kind of bitching about that. And he has a counterpoint which I
think we should share. Which which goes to this point of
poverty in America. Adam and John just catching up on
Thursday show I work for a startup in Silicon Valley.
Willie's points were kind of bogus if he completely ignores
it. This the fact that the city doesn't give a flying fuck about
the homeless and crime, as long as it's not happening in Soma,
or the tenderloin and not in North Beach or Nob Hill where he
lives. I have to agree right there. When we really got things
rolling about seven months ago, someone from the city came down
to waste our time I think it was the city manager he came in
under the guise of hoping to help us and in return help them
nothing ever came of it. Or of course, and again, I'll agree we
I've seen those guys at the company in San Francisco. It's
just wasting time. That kind of came in acted like a big deal.
Talk the big game and left no doubt they'll be walking around
going Oh, yeah. I've met those guys. Great stuff. Yep. Yeah.
Want to buy a seat at my dinner. They don't help out with the
homeless problem. They don't discourage the crime. They're
bent on making it. Oops. They're bent on making it more and more
difficult to run a small business their startups have
been doing their damnedest to clean up South of Market Soma,
but it's a fucking hellhole bought before the startups it
was 100% warehouses crime, homelessness and auto body chop
shops. Now it's just startups crime and homelessness. We
support the local restaurants because well, we need to eat new
ones keep popping up which is good and the chop shops are
turning into makerspaces These are all good things that said
the city seems to think it's a startups job to clean up the
streets. You know why people at Zynga and square don't walk down
the street? Because it's fucking dangerous. That's why would you
feel safe walking down a street full of crackheads and mentally
ill? This, by the way is true. Our employees that routinely are
there routinely approach approach for sex by meth addicts
on their way home from work. The homeless problem is massive. The
place where I park every day has about 30 to 40 homeless that
live in a mix of tents, makeshift tents, cars and non
operating mobile homes. At our office, there's a homeless guy
that routinely sleeps in front of our door and shits on our
sidewalk. It pisses off our investors like you wouldn't
believe at 9am Every day he's out there sitting in a fold up
chair. Watching people step in his crap while he drinks a Four
Loko and passes it on our building. When I leave every
day, there's a line all the way down the sidewalk on Fifth
Street for the shelter slash soup kitchen. When I say line I
mean mob of people, some of which just kind of stand in
traffic and shout profanities at cars. That used to be my job.
There's no There's no parking in the city, which means pretty
much everyone wants to live in the city which keeps driving up
the rent. This is your problem, John. When the city discovers a
street without metres on it, they stick metres on it about
$27 a day on average to park in San Francisco. If there's a
Giants game or anything else is going on at 675 An hour they use
parking metres that change the price hourly price. Yes, they
do that I want to mention that that is absolutely true. They
put all these electronic parking metres and the price changes. If
there's actually some reason to park it goes up.
prepaying for metres is a nightmare because of the
variable rates Oh, and a parking ticket which you will get is 85
bucks. Didn't didn't turn your tires towards the curb 56 bucks
and the complete Nazis about it. So how bad are rents 3000 a
month for a one bedroom in Nob Hill. Even worse in North beach
south beats most people choose to live in Mission Soma Dogpatch
where break ins happen all the time. You can't go out at night,
and smash and grabs are common. When someone broke into our
office, which is right across the street from a massive police
station. It took police 20 minutes to get there. When we
asked why it took so long to get across the street. They said oh,
that's just how we patrol. They don't do anything but write
tickets. The only thing keeping startups in the city is that
employees want to live there. That's the only thing that's
keeping tax revenue coming in. Oh, hiring locals, like who 90%
of SF is people from other states and countries. Anyone
left over is no good. Invalid is what we call them. When we do
interviews. It's so hard to find people to work for you from SF,
they're arrogant and no good at what they do. They're disposable
employees and the jump from job to job every six months. End of
rant.
All right, hold on a second. Now I've been complaining about San
Francisco being a hellhole that people shouldn't go there and
all this for years. And I complained about the parking and
the ridiculous crap they they put out there. I've always said
San Francisco is unfriendly. Yeah, and a miserable place.
Why? Why there's some some undertone here that that's
that's trying to correct my thinking, what are we doing? Oh,
you have a fan? What are you talking about? He's right. He's
right on board with you.
It's a horrible place.
But he's saying this in response to Willie Brown. And the end,
you know, us saying that the old me may be saying that the
startups are arrogant. And you know, but yeah, it you I guess
in a way you have to admit they need to have these buses.
Because it is it's like Escape from New York only at San
Francisco. It is it's a hellhole. And I remember our
office, the media office, as it must have been broken into 10
times.
Yeah, it was broken into at least once or at least once
every quarter every
quarter. Yeah. You're right. It's it's a hellhole and and now
like, I remember that, I remember that.
So well, the number of homeless in that area are pretty, pretty
minor. The homeless are really around Twitter and Facebook and
on brown Market Street. And they're all over the place. And
there's a encampments that are set up commonly where there's a
whole bunch of tents and and lean to is it looks like Brazil.
And there's just a lot of guys in there. And
I'm seeing this more and more in Austin now too, which is kind of
freaking me out. This is
all the Liberals that because in Oakland, they've rouse they've
there's very few there even though Oakland is the most
dangerous city in the country. And it's people you know, it's
just dangerous. But they got rid of the homeless they ship mall
to San Francisco. You don't I don't think I've ever
encountered a homeless guy in Oakland.
This is what the FEMA camps will be for.
Yeah, probably be okay. Yeah. Yeah, regions, the region nine
camps for the homeless. San Francisco likes their homeless.
I think they they use it as as leverage in some way to get more
police services or Oh, it's so dangerous out there. You need to
finance more police department more in the police department.
There. i They encourage San Francisco I totally believe
this. They encourage the homeless for some reason, and I
think it has to do with
that's pretty big statement.
I'm convinced of it. I've always been convinced of it because
they use it to get this the coffers they get more they can
tax you more.
Yeah. Even more is it up to 12%. Now in California, your state
income tax
that was passed. I know it's still 10 Maybe it is 12 state
income tax on top of everything else. Yeah.
You have then you have city tax, right? No, there's no city
taxes. And Los Angeles is still sending me things for city tax
or whatever. Small
tax in Los Angeles some kind of tax some kind of income tax.
Yeah. Or masers is income tax in New York. And that's really
high. It's for doing
business in the city of Los Angeles. And of course,
the licencing tax a fee?
Well, they're pretty, pretty damn
persistent about they're not there. You're in. You've been in
Austin for years. Yeah. They don't like that answer. They
don't like that at all. Well, the US government does the same
thing with people that move out of move out of the country.
Yeah. We you still owe us money.
Don't get me started on that. There's just staying in San
Francisco that I was reading. What is this this may be one of
this came off of hacker news or something. But there's, you
know, the the political correctness, the marks, cultural
Marxism is now bleeding into high tech, where we now have to
change out of political correctness, the term master and
slave to client server. Because of the weight of the slave and
master relationship,
there's something you know, somebody's it was actually our
one of our producers. You know who he is. He's constantly
writing. He said, There's got to be a movement to it to make this
to ban the word use of this. ban the use of the word slash, yes,
yes. And I said, this is bullcrap. And it but then I
started thinking about it. And it's so in other words, we call
you know, the public at large slaves. And this doesn't seem to
go over well with the government. So it'd be cool to
just eliminate the word. So it's like gay doesn't mean happy
anymore. Kind of thing. It's just redefine things. And I
started thinking, Well, I was kind of on the borderline until
Friday. On Friday, the entire Democracy Now show had no news
whatsoever. There wasn't one item of news, the entire hour
was devoted to a book on on slavery and this in the 1700s
and how it formed this and slaves. It was all about
slavery. The whole hour slavery, slavery, like, this is not even,
I would just befuddled by this. Interesting and how bad it was
be Harvard was formed on the basis of slavery. Yale was a
slave school. It was evil saveable in 1600. They're
telling us stuff about the 1600s. So there is something
going on about the slave the term slave.
Yeah, well, it's the Drupal community is now apparently
changing the concept of slaving a server to a master to a client
server relationship because of the political correctness of not
using the master slave term.
Yeah, the S word it'll be pretty soon. Yeah. The S word and it
won't mean splay.
And shoot will be okay. You racist. What was I was I heard
something the other day on NPR. And, and yeah, I think it was,
it was a woman talking about something and she said, well,
and then in this particular book, it used the N word a lot.
And unlike, should it be okay to say the word nigger if you're
not talking to a in a certain situation, if you're just if
you're referring to a word in a book, can't you use the word
mean we all know you're not being racist by saying the word
you know what I mean? That that's that's really weird.
Well, that's why they're pulling all the Mark Twain material.
Oh, you know what they got to pull they gotta pull Tom Swift
then as well. I once I you know, Tom Swift the books catch Tom
Swift. So I wanted to do an audio book is the early Tom
Swift books are public domain. And they're written I like turn
of the century of the Nazis, which has been around forever.
Yeah. Appleton. Victor Appleton wrote the the original series,
Tom Swift and his flying grandmother. And I really wanted
to and I was reading the book and I'm recording it. And that
is like, and here's Bubba, and Bubba, hey, masa, you got that
flying thing over there. And it's really written in the slave
type language of the day. So you might as well burn those books.
You got to get rid of them, because it's racist.
Well, the Huckleberry Finn would be the same thing, which
I read as a kid and I love those books. And I felt it really gave
me a good perspective, if anything, because of course,
Huckleberry Finn and And, you know, and what was the the
slave? That was Sawyer? No, no, Huckleberry Finn. They had the
black guy on the on the raft. This is I forget his name, Jim
maybe. Yeah, Jim. And you know, they were friends. You know,
they were buddies and it was a real deep bonding thing. And
that was a beautiful book to read. I always felt it was
really enlightening. But yeah, I wouldn't surprise me if because
of the language used, those books will be banned or altered
or demand most dated. banned. Really? John banned?
Yeah, banned banned. Yeah,
you can you can't you can't buy Huckleberry Finn, you can.
But no, he's not in it, where it was once in a curriculum of
American literature is now
out. And it's so important to have that, you know, alright,
well, now that we're a curriculum, we might as well do
a quick one. And by the way, a lot of people were very upset
when I said that we probably would not do a lot of common
core. I didn't say that. I said, we're not going to do the same
thing over and over again. And people are really upset. Go, you
need to stay on
this. And if you are staying on it, what are they talking about?
What did you say?
I said, we're not going to keep reading out the same things. If
there's something
you are complaining about the email? Yeah, well, so he I
remember that you what you said was that I'm not going to read
everybody's email that comes in bitching about common core and I
sent it to people took that to me talking about it anymore. I
said
that in exactly that annoying voice. It's it's just uncanny
how you how you are able to do Yeah. So two things I want to
say, Good Mimic, let's
put it that way.
When I want to do want to read a quick email, and then I have
actually a revelation for me. So yes, Patrick, my 13 year old
daughter, and I want to thank you for your courage and
coverage of Common Core and episode 568. It was very
educational to her and was also a wonderful bonding experience
for us both. She was quicker than I and nearly as quick as
John to pick up on each of your points. I was very proud of her.
She went to her favourite teacher the next day, and he
already was aware of the would be fiasco. He seemed impressed
that she understood the scam. Thankfully, she goes to a good
private school and they're already on our side. I'm sorry,
not a donation attached his email, we're just getting by
freely sending your kid to private school, you don't have
five bucks.
All right. I like the way you turn this little note around, I
just
realised that I've just realised. Yeah, that's sucks.
Can't get a $5 a month subscription. I mean, come on.
And then there was a link and I finally figured out the so
here's the term compensation mathematics. This is a Common
Core term compensation mathematics. And I finally
figured out what they're doing. And we can probably dissect why
they're doing it. So here's how the here's that. Here's the sum
and how they want children to approach it. So in this is a
textbook from Common Core use compensation. So this is this is
we get to write this down John compensation, mathematics, use
compensation to find the answer to three times 18. That you
know, what is three times 18? Can you do this in your head?
John? SVGs 2454.
Okay. How did you do that? How did you? How did you get to this
number,
I multiply three times eight, which is 24. Then I carried the
two and added it to three because it was a one and three
plus one is five.
Right? So that's how I was taught as well, which is, and
that's why you the only thing you have to know is the
multiplication tables are drilled into your head. So you
can snap the answer. There's only not much to it, right? It's
a very simple way of approaching it. So know, the way the Common
Core with compensation mathematics wants you to do it
is substitute a number for 18. That is easy to multiply,
because of course you're dumb. So they suggest why don't you
take 20 So they say three times 20 is 60. Now you're left with
three groups of two. That is six. So you have to subtract six
from the 60 to arrive at 54. That's harder. Yeah. Thank you.
It makes no sense. I mean, yeah, maybe because it's
brutal. I can do three times too.
Cuz it's a long multiplication table. It seems like they don't
want kids to go over, you know, 20 or to take the tables have to
ya know, to go that route when you could just remember that.
You can remember the multiplication tables, three
times eight, you'd have to remember, you know, two times
two, three times two, which is I mean, it's not that hard. It's I
get for it. So that's all third and fourth grade. You generally
have the multiplication table drummed into you have a year to
learn it. It's not like oh my god. It's a you have A year to
learn, you know, everything from one times one to 12 times 12?
Because that's kind of where they stop it usually not even
144, by the way, yeah, we don't and so that, you know, you learn
that it would take, I don't know, 60 days at the most 30
days a week, whatever it takes you didn't you have flashcards
use use flashcards. Don't just do it with your, your pair. What
is this? I say? And so you go through that, and you got it.
Now you can do three times 18 rather easily and quickly in
your head, you can come up with the answer almost instantly. But
this other approach. And one thing I would here's what my I
was looking at the other approach. And here's the first
thing I said to myself, I said three times 20 is 60. There's
two differences. I just subtract two, the answer is 58. Well,
because the difference between 18 and 20 is two I know that and
three times 20 is 60. But I changed it to 20. From 18.
That's too. So the answer is 58. I'm telling it, this is the kind
of problem you have with this complexity. So here,
um, so I'm looking at the two pages from this textbook to the
first one says using mental math to multiply. And then it gives
you this, this problem in the equation and here's the and
says, with compensation, you choose numbers close to the
numbers in the problem to make the computation easier, and then
adjust the answer for the numbers chosen. Wow, this seems
like government doesn't it? Like, let's guesstimate. And
then when we get the wrong answer, we'll adjust it later.
This is very, very strange.
It's actually disturbing.
Yeah. And it's but it seems to me it's inviting errors. It's
inviting what like the one you just the error, you explain what
you came up with? 58. But also, it seems like it's it's it's
it's pushing people towards not learning more multiplication
tables than two. Because you're doing three times to 03 times 20
is 60. And you're doing three times the twos that are left
over which is six, and then you're subtracting. So it really
feels like we're so dumb. We can't let you do anything harder
than you know. You can't do you can't remember more than the
tape that the the multiplication table of two. So we'll we'll
have you solve it this way. It's very, very, very strange.
That is weird. But how does when it's four times 18 Think of the
complexity to get to the
no one no one ever orders 18 Big Macs. It's not it's not gonna
it's not gonna be a problem. Don't you see? I'm never gonna
happen ever.
Well, this is very stupid. Mistakes. It reminds me when
people will always refer to when you talk about it with
somebody's not this nursery to the show where we've actually
broke it down quite a bit. Oh, it sounds like new math. No,
it's not remember new math. I can't quite remember all of it.
But it was something it was similarly stupid.
I remember new I think I just kind of went past the new math.
What the hell was new new math was another attempt at this. I
think this has been going on for a while this common core thing
is not new. Buzzkill Jr blames the whole thing on Dewey, the
Dewey Decimal System, Dewey, the guy who did the Dewey Decimal
System. He was an educator and many of these crazy things about
about creating citizens.
New Math was a brief dynamic change in the way mathematics
was taught in American grade schools, and to a lesser extent
in European countries. During the 1960s. The name was commonly
given to a set of teaching practices introduced in the US
shortly after the Sputnik crisis, in order to boost
science, education and mathematical skill in the
population. So that the perceived intellectual threat of
Soviet engineers reputedly high skilled mathematicians could be
met. Oh, just replace Russia with China in this and you have
the exact same thing. This is a fractal John of the new math.
Yeah, I think fractal mathematician describes the
interesting objects set builder notation. Okay. Binary numbers
do Oh, decimals. Oh my God. Now the problem, of course, is that
we have a lot of this common core is going to carry over to
college. And a lot of people are just not going to be able to get
into college because they didn't have the Common Core background
education in the dumbed down system. And it is dumbed down. I
just can't see it any other way. Make it up. Kind of get there
compensate later. Wow, sounds like healthcare.gov, doesn't it?
Oh, which reminds me, now that you mentioned it I guess it's
running like a champ. Now it's just it wasn't a long because it
was guaranteed According to Obama, it'd be fixed today. The
first of the day, by the end of November I was going to be
running great is how is it doing? I have no I don't care, I
really shut it down.
I really don't care. It's, it's irrelevant. It doesn't matter.
It's failed, the whole thing is failed. It's not You're not
going to work. It's just not going to work. Right? Should be
maybe we'll get to it tonight. We'll get to talk about it. And
bring it up. Now. They're gonna bring up 23 in Me, which I'm
going to take a totally different tact on now. Okay,
tell me. Well, so I've learned actually, you know, as you know,
from Thursday, I've went really deep on this stuff. And I've
learned a lot. And really, the main thing I've learned is that
DNA analysis to date has really not, isn't really not helpful in
finding diseases or helping you cure diseases. It's great. If
you want to know how much Neanderthal you are, or you know
how much African you are, or if you're related to somebody Yeah,
that that makes sense. But it hasn't really done very well in
in truly predicting diseases. And don't tell
that to Angelina Jolie,
while she's part of the system, yet she's part of this, this
whole movement. But here's what I'm going to say. We already
made having a company like 20 I'm forming it in my head here
so helped me allowing a company like 23andme to, quote unquote,
democratise your health and your DNA is like allow it like we
allowed Twitter and Facebook to democratise freedom of speech.
You know, their open source database is open source
programmes, the testing is one thing and they don't even do the
testing. They outsource it. So I'd like to know, where can you
test it. And it's fun. It's fun to run it through. Prometheus,
Prometheus, I think it's called Prometheus, which is open source
and you can you run it and you can run against the same
database. In fact, one guy, one of our producers, he thanked me
for mentioning that he says 23 And me, I took the raw data that
I got from them and ran it through Prometheus. 23andme
never told me I have a higher risk than the average population
of getting coronary heart disease, whereas Prometheus had
it at the top of the page. Many of the men on my mother's side
died in their 50s. from heart disease, Prometheus also said I
have a higher risk factor for alcoholic liver disease and
increased liver fat. Interestingly enough, several
people on both sides of my family have died from
alcoholism. Prometheus also said I have a higher risk from
celiacs disease, which I did not see in the 23andme report. Both
reports mentioned I have an above average risk for Glaucoma,
which two of my ons have. So it may even be that, you know, the
false negatives that you get from the Twitter of DNA, which
is what I'm calling them now, are more dangerous than the
false positives. But in general, I liked the open source route. I
don't think we should give up our DNA to some Google related
company. It's just not smart. Learn from what's happened. Your
Google Gmail is not great. It's just not you may think it's
great still, but it's not. Now Twitter is not great. Your words
great until they close you down. Facebook is not great when they
don't show you your your friends timeline. These are not great
things. Do we need to decentralise everything,
including the DNA stuff? So that's where I'm taking it.
I think you net you if you threw that exactly what you said right
there and that little one minute? Which I'll never get
back that little one minute. At the dinner party, you would stop
the show, you'd probably get a standing Oh,
I'm going to try it. I'm going to try it. It's it starts at
630. So I'll still be
used. I think that I think you're right on to a It's not I
don't think a complete answer to what you really want to do,
which is to get everyone all worked up. I think it's a I
think it's a great, great little commentary that you could drop
like a bomb in there and it would shut everybody up. Right?
Because you're from that little silica soliloquy. That means
you've actually thought about this. I guarantee nobody.
There's thought about it. They're all at the one layer
deep. You know, they they're just the government's shutting
them down. And it's a bunch of conservatives. The Republicans
are the gate Republicans are behind. Yeah, exactly.
Now, I didn't want to say anything really. I'm
so tired of it, but it's a good speech. And it's short and
sweet. It's also
the way I really feel it's and it took me it took all of this
for me to realise what my real aggression was towards this
company. And I'm like, Oh, of course it makes so much sense.
Because all they're trying to do is is gather a lot of data to
perhaps one day be able to supply some kind of a now
offices, but they're taking your shit. It's like your once again,
if you're not getting the benefit, you're giving it to
them, and you're paying them 99 bucks.
Yeah, this is the way things go. Yeah, and have not have we are
being exploited. This is like these, these systems that are
just, they just exploit the users.
Yes, it's an and I'm tired and they had they've raised $100
million. That's not a fly by night operation. No. And of
course, they must be subsidising the test because the tests.
Look, if there's a real market for this, the price will come
down for that for
just right now. It's just expensive four or $5,000.
And the price will come down. If there's a real market for it's
actually a good deal for 99 bucks to get the test. It's a
great deal. And
I actually am considering doing it. Because now that I know that
there's the s&p do, which is the open source, which is where they
get their information from to is is open source and available
that Yeah, it's interesting to look at that. Sure. I don't mind
looking at but I think we should be very, very careful and learn
our lessons about giving up our technology and let's just call
this technology to a wholesome Silicon Valley. Backslash grant.
Okay, I think you made your point.
Thank you very much.
And I have nothing to add. That's fine. I'm looking forward
to the results of this next dinner. Are you doing it on
Sunday? Would you did it on Saturday nights? It's
Fritz first. I don't know. It's no no. It's first of the month
and I don't know.
Oh, there's like some some coded you know, like holiday like, I
don't know, manufactured schedule. It's
hard to unfortunately the guy who did I tell you this? That
the guy who was there last time the extra guy. He turns out that
he's a he's a top guy for Hill and Knowlton.
He's there to check you out.
Yeah, but I didn't realise this. Worse, not just by Well, he's,
he's not he's not able to make tonight's dinner. Fortunately,
she
figured you're just a crackpot. Yeah, but I said yeah, come to
your dossiers fight closed. Yeah, nothing. Nothing to see
here.
No worries started went
into the big filing cabinet over here nothing to see here.
Look at Glenn Greenwald was on the BBC is Hard Talk. Did you
see this interview? No, I wish I had Yeah, I could put a couple
clips. I thought it was interesting. In two regards one
whenever I see people online going, Glenn Greenwald totally
school that motherfucker. Like okay, let's see how bad he
schooled him. You know, like mainstream third. Actually, I
found it to be quite a different guy. Yeah. It's it's the
profane, less idiot that thinks everything is
internet guy getting Greenwell schooling. And what I liked
about this is the guy on Hard Talk, which is on BBC News,
evening show and Glenn's on from Buenos Aires. Again, one of
those I skype has less than Rio, isn't he? I think he was in
Buenos Aires, I think
oh, he was in Buenos Aires for the
for the for the interview. I maybe I'm just remembering that
wrong. Okay, whatever
doesn't make any difference? Why does it just go to England and
sit there with the guy?
Well, duh. Part of that is in this. I'm just gonna say that
Skype if you did the interview on Skype, it have less delay
than whatever satellite system the BBC is using. Man, it's
really annoying, because whenever Greenwald gets excited,
he's responding three seconds later to when the guy tried to
interrupt. And it's really the cadence is weird. So the
question, of course, that we also asked is who really owns
this information that I submit was taken from Edward Snowden
and subsequently, Edward Snowden is long, no longer necessary.
And he's now just a brand as in the documents from Edward
Snowden. But the guy is like here, enjoy Moscow, to who owns
it. You've
so long sucker. Exactly.
You've only published a tiny fraction of the huge number of
top secret documents that you have in your possession. So
question number one who owns those documents intellectually
right now who has ultimate control over them? You no longer
work for The Guardian, Edward Snowden stuck in Moscow and
can't get out. So who actually controls this in your words, top
secret information which has yet to be published?
What did we do? your answer be to that, John.
Wow. So this guy, of course, you know, we taught him BBC probably
mi six. Oh, yeah. And so he's asking specific question. This
is a good question. I think this is a very good this is the
question. Somebody finally is, this is a great question that
somebody finally asked it. My answer would be, it's public
domain. I know I this is what I'd say, I believe at this
point, because this copies have been circulated. The New York
Times has one The Washington Post has one, The Guardian has
one I have one. I have there's a couple copies out there. I am
taking these documents and assuming that they are public
domain until told otherwise, ah.
The journalist who he trusted
why they're mine. They're my document. What the nerve,
listen to the rest, as as a source just like is true in
every single case. Well, myself or a boy truss. The New York
Times has a large number of documents already and has a
large number of documents. And the Washington Post does as
well. So basically, the world's largest and most respected
Western newspapers are in possession of these large number
of these.
Don't you love that? It's like, Oh, okay. Yeah, I'll just trust
the news media. I'll just trust that the world's largest news
organisations. In this day and age, no, no, I would like to see
them myself. Thank you very much. But we know Glenn owns
them, myself and Laura Poitras. Okay, myself and Laura Poitras,
he just did you hear him say
that interesting to Laura Poitras aspect,
because she's the one that really made the contact. And
she's
the one she's probably the one. Yeah, there's something Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Believe me, Laura portress is the one and she's the one Lana's
the face. Yeah,
she's this she is obviously a CIA stooge.
Bore, some may be
leaving CIA because this, everything looks like CIA to me
from her perspective. Well,
yeah, chaos. I think she's with chaos.
But you were the first he turned to I don't know if I'm right in
assuming that you have all of the documents and other people
have some of the documents. I mean, tell me if that's true.
Myself and Laura Poitras have the full set of documents and
others have portions of them. You
have the full portions you already
sold. He sold those to them, you know, we sold them. He sold that
set of documents. Do you believe you have the right? You no
longer work for The Guardian. You are a freelance journalist.
I know you're hooked up with some other people. But do you
believe you and maybe Laura Laura Poitras have the right to
decide going forward? What further to publish.
But what would your answer be to that, John?
Well, if I was him, I'd say yes.
We are working with the world's largest media outlets in making
those choices. So even though I'm no longer at The Guardian,
we have started our own media outlet that has some of the most
experienced and respected national security editors and
journalists in the world already working with our organisation
when I report in foreign countries as I did in the last
two weeks in Norway in Holland, I
okay. So just wondering, because I saw this thing I NRC is the
newspaper that hired him in Holland. So here's how it works.
He'll go in, in his little document database. And we know
that the what the New York Times has is some very complicated
thing where it's very hard to find anything. So we don't know
if he's working off the same bundle of information or
database, he'll find something regarding the Netherlands, which
the story was about the NSA, possibly not stopping spying in
the Netherlands, a 1960, or something. And I believe he
calls up, or he puts out to bid a story. And NRC, they're
funded, they got money. They also have some government
involvement, some subsidies, I think I could be wrong about
that. I've just, that's just off the top of my head. And then he
flies out there, put them up, he works with their person. And
they take a document, they publish a page or two from the
document, without really any commentary, because no one will.
It's just, you know, they're just publishing slides. And then
they'll make up a headline and oh, this is this is what's going
on. And he said, that's his business model. That's the
business model. And so he's going to travel around the globe
doing this. And yeah, I think you can rack up some some nice
dough that way. And you can keep it going for quite a while, as
we'll learn later, in this interview work
with some of the largest and most respected media
establishments in those countries.
How can you say that these big media establishments are
respected? It's perpendicular to what he's always stood for? Yes,
I
agree. I'm wondering, well, it was Deborah's customers. Now
that's why
I think Thank you, that's the true answers have
the same exact process and structure where I work with
their editors and their lawyers and their journalists to make
these decisions collaboratively. So there's never been a single
document that has been published because I myself, have decided
that we work as a responsible journalist in a journalistic
structure,
okay. Now, this was, this is another part of the interview,
where and he comes back to this a lot about the safeguarding of
the documents. And in essence, Glenn is saying that he is
protecting the documents, which you can read one or multiple
ways. Is he protecting it for the CIA and the NSA? Or is he
protecting against it? The way he answers it, I think is open
to interpretation,
you control information, which is a vital national security
interest to hundreds and hundreds of millions of people
who live in the United States, UK and other countries. Surely,
the the wisest course of action for you as a human being, let
alone a journalist is to return that information. whence it
came, you've loved that
that term, by the way, return it whence it came. Isn't that
awesome return from it doesn't even say from for return it
whence it came, I think that's proper English to
probably to return that information. whence it came,
you've looked at it, you've decided that the information you
can't publish is so sensitive that it can never be published.
So should you not get it out of your possession and return it
whence it can return it whence it came?
No, first of all, people who can't be trusted to safeguard
the security of that information are called the NSA and the GCHQ.
They're the ones who are so reckless with the information
that they put it on systems that are accessed by 10s of 1000s of
people and lost control over the documents.
That's very interesting. He's saying that, do you think it's
possible that more people have taken that information from the
servers that 10s of the chances that if 10s of 1000s of people
had access to them that more?
Oh, I'm sure there's some well, they were using it for
blackmail? I mean, they were using it for okay. I mean, there
were some moments where they they admitted, at least I think,
in Congress that some some rogue employees were checking up on
their old girlfriends using this stuff. Yeah, listening in on
conversation. So yeah, I think there's probably a bunch of
people who have collected chunks of it, not necessarily the exact
same chunk, because it was probably collected. I think,
Snowden, for example. And you've seen this on on systems. I mean,
some people will do it personally. You keep all your
PowerPoints in one folder. And then that's the main folder that
everyone
right dips into a
corporation to create new PowerPoint, flower price, and
I gotta see, where's that let me grab the PowerPoint folder and
see if there's anything in here I can use. You take a slide from
here and a slide from there. And then you change the template. So
the slide all of a sudden, they all looked like they you put it
together as one slide show. And so So I think Snowden for one
thing, saw that that cache of PowerPoint cache
cache, as they say,
the cache and she grabbed the whole thing. And then he
probably saw some other folders of interest in so he whatever he
has, but I'm sure other guys have grabbed other stuff, but
they're a little more less likely to come out here. They're
getting good. They got a good job in an environment like this
and let's note and take the heat and
I can always sell something in dribs and drabs later. Yeah, and
it doesn't matter,
whereas we've maintained very tight control over the document.
Secondly, I never said that all of the documents in my
possession that haven't yet been published are ones that
shouldn't be published. In fact, there's a lot more reporting
that I intend to do that other media outlets intend to do in
publishing these documents. There are a lot of these are
extremely newsworthy how much more I mean, I haven't count I
don't have an exam. I don't have an exact count. But I can tell
you that if I had to guess we are still in the first part. The
first half of the reporting the majority of reporting on these
documents for sure is reporting that has yet to be done but that
will be done.
Okay, there's little information we didn't have. Yeah, that's
good one. Hit that in other words, he's dribbling it out.
And of course, the way I understand it, it's pretty much
all they can but he
spent the first you know, the first quarter of it to reel in
the big money to monetize this which is alMihdhar appeal as we
call him, and I'm sorry he's not really doing journalism I'm
sorry it's not he is publishing slides and and making
assumptions about what they mean he's not doesn't have sources
lot that I've seen that back it up that confirm he does know so
he's, it's not really journalism, however, should
we expect that you will use most of the material Edward Snowden
gave you ultimately
I'm going to use Most of the material that's newsworthy? How
much of that is part of the pile. I can't quantify it for
you right now. But like I said, there's a lot more reporting to
do, because we're not the kind of journalists to just go around
repeating what the government says, No,
you just go around publishing slides and saying this is the
truth and
demanding that everyone accepted as true without evidence. Were
the kind of journalist who believe that the way you hold
power accountable is by reporting on what the truth
actually is. And it's the documents that reveal that
right? I'm just gonna have to disagree. I want I want to
agree, but that's just bullshit. The documents do not hold any
specific truth.
I know that but if you're republishing, slide 56 from a
deck that's out of context, it's out of context, and we need
context. Context is everything context is the truth, if any,
this whole pile of crap needs to just go to WikiLeaks and be
published as a giant chunk, if anything, the chips fall where
they may, and yeah, you're gonna probably compromise look who
don't care about compromise the what's her name, Valerie plam
was compromised by her own government, and had to retire as
a CIA field operative. So I mean, yeah, there, somebody's
gonna get busted. And it's gonna be, you know, they're gonna have
to quit the business. But given fair warning,
probably if, because, you know, we know that the way this really
works is they take a slide, they take a deck, they go to the
authorities and say, What can we not publish, they say, don't
publish this redact that which they do. And this is admitted,
this is not like some stunning news. And then and then they
publish, you know, and probably whatever is disadvantageous for
whoever's is saying, it's okay to publish. If we really had all
the documents, it probably would be much worse than it is now.
Because what would fall out I think would be the blackmail
would be the the industrial espionage. I think it would be
much much worse.
Yeah, I think it would be too and I think it's a lot of
blackmail. And I think this whole terrorism nonsense is a
smokescreen for for a blackmailing operation done by
the government against the citizens I mean, they say they
have the goods on some truther that's in Hollywood
tell me about this because this you had this in the newsletter I
hadn't heard there's
well there's not it's pretty vague it's been it's I think in
metal filter had some references to it. Wow, you still use metal
filter? It's actually not both I get I get routed through metal
filters from buzzkill juniors, member I haven't
used metal filter in years you should look at it is going back
up with
stuff. How do you and supposedly there's some guy that they've
got the whose guess he hit? There's some connection to this
truth or Hollywood star? who apparently likes really some
weird type of porno? I don't know if it's the shame nails
stuff?
No, hey, that's not weird.
Are they any of this? Kind of offbeat, let's say, I know how
much this is important to you. Maybe it's about you.
I think about it, they're gonna be really disappointed. I don't
care what you think about me.
But the point is, is that this blackmail idea is just so
obvious. I mean, that's exactly what you use this for, to get to
your political enemies. And that, again, takes us back to
the holder clip, where the senator asked him, you know,
under oath, can this be used for political advantage? And he
wouldn't answer the question. Yeah.
Exactly. I have one more clip from Greenwald. If you're
interested. It's a
little while I love listening to the green. All right. This is
just the last one we have here. He's asked very, very specific
question about the possibility of foreign powers, uh, having
this information that intelligence officers have said,
well, hold on a second, this is really damaging, you know,
because now I guess terrorists aren't using Skype, whatever.
But he doesn't answer the question, which is interesting
to me. And I think that's probably his legal background.
Speaking, he answers it in quite a different way, which is not a
bad I'm not totally against what he's saying here. It's just
interesting doesn't answer the question you
don't trust plainly don't trust all of the security chiefs.
You've lined up to say that what you've done that stories you've
written, have fundamentally undermined security and aided
and abetted terrorism. I'll just point you to the evidence of
Oliver Robins, the deputy national security adviser for
intelligence in the UK Cabinet Office, who says and he said
this, in written evidence in a court case, it is known that
this in the CS material is personal information that would
allow intelligence staff to be identified, including those
deployed overseas. He says the government has had to assume
that copies of information held by Mr. Snowden may now be held
by one or more other states. You're saying he is not telling
the truth.
There is this thing called the Iraq War in which the US and the
UK government's persuaded their media outlets and their
populations to support an aggressive attack on another
country by making one false claim after the next designed to
scare the population into believing that there was a
security threat that didn't actually exist, that they had to
go to war in order to stop. what journalism is about is it's
based on the premise that when people like Mr. Robbins and
others who exercise power in the dark, make those kinds of claims
to justify their own power, they're often lying.
That's not what journalism is. Journalism is about to grin. But
your point is valid. But that's not
laid back to that. Because this is like one of those great
sentences where you throw something in and you never talk
about it. No. And you just play that again.
Just go back a little bit more hold on a second. Oh, yeah. No,
he's not going to answer the question,
which the US and the UK government's persuaded their
media outlets and their populations to support an
aggressive attack on another country by making one false
claim after the next designed to scare the population into
believing that there was a security threat that didn't
actually exist, that they had to go to war in order to stop. what
journalism is about is it's based on the premise that when
people like Mr. Robbins and others who exercise power in the
dark, make those kinds of claims to justify their own power.
They're often lying they that's that's good crackpot
or he is
nuts. What he said, Yeah, that's what I would journalism is
about. But here, let me do it. what journalism is about is when
Mr. XYZ says something he's lying, generally, generally,
I'll find out. But let's let's This is like the one of those
things that we found these these kinds of crazy sentences where
you say one thing, perform Okay, well, the way we're gonna solve
that problem is and then you talk about, you know, the
theatre lines are too long. And what we've got to do you know,
just talking about that performative. Yeah, it was even
worse than that. It's just like a kind of a layered
performative,
or in the dark, make those kinds of claims to justify their own
power. They're often lying, they often tell things to the
population, that turns out to be untrue. And the job of a
journalist is not to investigate other journalists who are
investigating those powerful officials. It's I think,
sometimes that is the job of a journalist, I'm sorry.
Sometimes, yes. Are you kidding me?
To try and be responsible when telling their viewers and
readers what government officials are saying and then to
assess whether there's evidence for it. That's my role. You
don't you don't have to rely on
anything so explosive, I have to challenge it. You're accusing
the most senior intelligence officials on both sides of the
Atlantic of routine and systematic lying. What is your
evidence? You say, look at the Iraq War. But what is your
evidence that when people like the head of GCHQ, and the head
of MI six see that there is real evidence that since your
revelations, the sorts of communications conducted by
terrorists has changed because they've
stopped stop? Now he should come back with where's their evidence
and throw it back at the guy? Yes, he?
Well, this is so it's funny you say that? Because that's exactly
what I was expecting. Exactly what I was expecting him to say
they've learned from you. Where is your evidence? Those
intelligence chiefs are lying.
First of all, I think the Iraq War is a pretty significant
city. If you want to if you want to scream if you want to, if you
want to scream at me and make all kinds of filibustering
remarks, I can just disconnect and you can do that. But if you
want, what a dick,
that's bad. That's real.
Okay. Well, as a lawyer, he usually he would he was, I don't
know why he didn't have that rehearsed.
Well, let's listen to the right to ask me a question. You're
gonna give me time to actually answer it. The evidence that
government officials lie is found in history.
He's He's saying the because he's very smart. The evidence
that government officials lie, not the evidence in this case,
but they lost things
like the Iraq War, when the US and the UK destroyed a country
of 26 million people based on lies they told over the course
of two years to their population. And if you look at
what happens in countries where there's constitutional
guarantees of a free press, which I know doesn't include the
UK, but in most western democracies, what you find is
all sorts of people who have created those protections have
done so based on the recognition that people in power,
specifically national security officials will routinely lie to
their population. The evidence that I have is that three
Democratic senators just two weeks ago in the United States
who are on the Intelligence Committee and have access to
classified information came out and said that the claims of NSA
officials and others that these programmes have stopped
terrorist plots is completely false that there is no evidence
for it.
And he wins with that one because that's what we We've
uncovered as well. Not even uncovered. We just played C
span.
Yeah, there's nothing to uncover. It's there. It's a
fact. It's
just there. He
just played on C span. Well, he blew that one up. I think I
think he had a better shot. I call him the guy out for the
claims of the GCHQ guys. They've changed our game plan thanks to
these guys. And there's no evidence of this at all.
I totally agree. I totally agree.
All right. That was entertaining a little bit.
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Okay. Well, we'll
turn on the echo and I was just doing
a quickie Hold on. I didn't realise it was just one we can
do that. You are good to go.
Ladies and gentlemen, a big round of applause for Christina.
She comes off the stage. Her hobbies include stamp collecting
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larger script.
Excellent. Well done. Well played, sir.
I think I can get a job doing this. Just a bunch of cute one
liners, Jason Doolin. And lots of wages in Nevada 12358. And he
has a donation letter. I sent you a copy of this.
Yeah. Do you want me to read it? Or? Yeah, because I
don't have my email.
That's why you send it to me so you wouldn't have to like deal
with it? Yes. In the morning, Korean Dvorak. I'd like to thank
you guys for an excellent show day in and day out. I work
whatever the day is just like you guys. Listening to you guys.
while I work. This last holiday was a true pleasure. I have a
few things here you might be interested in just like the blue
dots. There are green dots, the green dots if your jurisdiction
uses them should mark automatic gates. Usually you will find an
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operators where gates are. This matters because these gates have
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that. I have a 20 month old daughter my wife and I have been
talking about educating our daughter your common core
reporting has been appreciated. I certainly think you guys are
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Gatto stuff. John Taylor Gatto. Here's another interesting
person Charlotte iser bite is that Miss eyes iserbyt iser bite
I S E. RB YT. Has the claim that the American education system is
meant to dumb down our society. Yeah, this is what I've read
this dude, Head of Education under Reagan. She does have some
other interesting claims. That could be fun rabbit holes if you
have the time. Yeah, no, I got the time, of course. To give me
some time codes in a very thorough, so just lots of other
stuff. In next Oh, is it appropriate to call out a
buddy's wife to the stage? I didn't think I will. I don't
think I will this time around. Well, first of all, yes.
I don't think so. I think you
can call it a buddy's wife to the stage if you want to bop in
the face.
What do you mean, and it's that I think it's inappropriate.
The answer is no. This is not okay. Wow. picky. Well, thank
you very much. Jason. For the 125 38 Italie appreciating I
have
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I need to interject elected note
to interject for one second. Did you get some silver coins? No,
not in the postbox. When did you last go?
The yesterday really? Huh? You got silver coins? And I'm
pretty sure you got them too. I didn't get any from Dave Jones.
And he said here are Five one out yet and believe me you got
him because I know he asked if he should send you a letter
yesterday. Well, the day will come here a five one ounce
silver coins I've picked up over the years that I thought you
guys would get a kick out of at the current silver spot price of
$19.40. That should come out close to $100. The Bush and
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update on the Arizona the Chinese have changed their
Arizona we've toyed with him and now apparently we've kind of
caved in Obama says hey, we'll we'll We'll not do this. But
there's plenty that Arizona reports it so we can keep up.
Meanwhile, according to reports and the New York Times newspaper
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Government meeting interesting while the Chinese have this rail
news from China, the Chinese have in the time it took for the
California to decide and then go to court and come to their high
speed rail it's never gonna happen of course.
Oh, this interesting. Interesting you bring this up
hold on. I got some phone. Let's
now move on to other news a high speed railway route has opened
in North China forming the last link in the high speed rail
network from the country's north to south. The line goes from
Port City Tenjin to coastal Qin Hongtao in Hebei Province on its
first train set off on Sunday morning from 10 Jin. The nearly
300 kilometre long journey only takes about an hour and 10
minutes half the time it takes by regular trains. It connects
with Beijing to Harbin and Harbin to Dalian routes to the
north and the Beijing to Shanghai route to the south.
Is it like rail appreciation day or something because I got a
high speed. We've it's like a repeat
I think the PR people are back at work A and B by the way. I
was looking at this report. I'll bet you I've now I want to go to
China just to take this particular train. It looks dead
empty.
Listen to listen to this report. This is a US report that says
the same thing but even hypes it worse. We're shooting
the scene this morning in New York's Penn Station. Amtrak says
it's expecting in your record.
This is from the Thanksgiving Day number of passengers
for the Thanksgiving weekend. Crowds are also lining up for
trains in Philadelphia but across the country travellers
still don't have one option used to run the world for nearly half
a century. High Speed Rail
long strike this is a package piece I mean, they're going nuts
totally package saying no reason for the story. There's no news.
Apparently they say oh, it's gonna be busy. Well, yeah, it's
Thanksgiving weekend.
Yeah, hello, it's busy at the airports is busy on the freeways
straight into
a pre produced pathway
shows us why one states battle could set the pace for the rest
of the nation.
In China this bullet train zips between the cities of Beijing
and Gen Gao at over 220 miles per hour. So convenient. One
local air service went out of business seven weeks after the
first train left the station. Andy coons heads an advocacy
group called the US high speed rail Association it is
almost 10,000 miles of brand new state of the art high speed
rail. Brand new all fast all I mean this the best in the world.
10,000 Miles 10,000 Miles. I got a question that 10,000 miles of
brand new rail, who would they build that like it overnight.
Please, this is the Isela Express which runs between
Boston and Washington DC with stops in between. It's as close
as the US gets to a high speed line.
The top speed is 150 miles an hour. But the average speed is
not even half backwards. 70 miles an hour.
But California hopes to connect San Francisco and Los Angeles
with America's first true high speed rail 520 miles between
them. Travel time, three hours
all about trains good planes bad
and of course Boeing went and said just throw a train off the
tracks. These guys are getting way too much press
I can get what what are you playing?
I'm not playing anything. What are you hearing?
Oh, I bet she has my you got an ad
running. You got a Skype ad.
I have something running. I went to the US hr ushsr.com Oh, and
they got to play some bull crap in the background. Oh yeah,
there it is. They're showing the high speed rail of China and how
we should have this in California. Right which by the
way, they're going to stop. Yeah, this thing is never going
to I mean, all it is right now what they're gonna do is they're
gonna build the Bakersfield Fresno you know, high speed
lines, so they can run, you know, grain to up the gut, and
they're never gonna hook San Francisco to LA as a scam. But
okay, fine. And by the way, three hours, I gotta get at
first I got to find a place to park, which is a pain in the
ass. And I have to wait to get on the train, obviously. So
that's about 45 minutes, this is gonna be scanners, you're gonna
have to walk through the thing and you have to wait for the
train. So it's gonna be just like going to the airport. So
the time difference there is not going to change.
Hold on, hold on, hold on a second. John, I'm not going to
let you only talk down about high speed rail and only talk
about the disadvantages. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna let you do
that. There's advantages to high speed rail.
Imagine boarding a train in the centre of a city. No racing to
an airport. And across the terminal. No delays. No sitting
on the tarmac. No lost luggage. No taking off your shoes.
So I don't see the difference. I'm going to have to get to I
get to rush to the train station because there's not one across
the street from my house, I can assure you. Yeah. So I have to
rush to the train station. I have to rush to the airport. I
have to park my car somewhere and it's not cheap. I have to
park my car at the airport. Same thing. Here's
the great thing. Why do you want to get to San Francisco faster
to that hellhole?
Well, there's that seriously, they always say, Here's the
other thing. Well, I
mean, who cares San Francisco, I'll
let it go. Well, I want to go to LA. I can go to casually go to
the Oakland airport, which is a very pleasant airport. I can get
on a Southwest flight and I can land in Burbank or I don't have
to be in some the hellish lax I have choices. I can go to
Burbank and go to Ontario, I can go to LAX I can go to there's
even flights from Virgin flights into the Long Beach airport, I
have a bunch of choices. I otherwise have to go to San
Francisco and find a parking to get on the San Francisco high
speed rail to La go through the gut Fresno and Bakersfield would
have beautiful
Do you that they do have a great cart go kart track in
Bakersfield.
And so I go, boom, it takes me three hours on the train. It
takes me one hour and 10 minutes on the plane. I'm not and it's
just gonna be on sale because they're always having fare wars,
there's no fare. Now let me ask you, by the way that didn't cost
me fit. If you take a look at Amtrak prices, they never
discount anything.
Now let me ask you a question just so we can wrap this up? Why
are they doing it? If it makes no sense?
Well, if for people who are new to the show, we've long since
determined this is to benefit Warren Buffett, Burlington,
Northern Santa Fe and all these other carriers of freight. They
need new rail beds for their freight, and they won't spend
the money. They're cheap. There's if the government and
the stupid public will pick up the tab for new rail beds for
these high speed trains. The freight guys will end up with
the high speed rails because the high speed train passenger
service will never make money and they'll they'll end up
putting the freight trains on these tracks
and there's tonnes of money to be made. And in the in the
process of putting this down tonnes of money. It's just
a part of a greater corruption that you know we bitch about.
It's about as far as we get
to three red 33 Clip Blitz,
blitz All right quick clip Blitz. I'm got some Euro land
news. We start in Greece where we have to continue to discredit
the true opposition, I believe, which is the Golden Dawn party,
which even as building this euro vision, your own news report as
far right. But when you listen to what's actually going on,
they've just basically locked up the opposition under suspicion
of some things with no evidence.
Around 1000 supporters of the far right Golden Dawn party
gathered outside the parliament in the Greek capital of Athens.
The smaller than expected crowd were protesting against the
pretrial detention in
the smaller than expected crowd. The that's not propaganda this
Yeah,
Nikos Mahalo, Yak was 13 of the parties. 18 MPs are in detention
face charges, or have had their parliamentary immunity stripped
of them as the government cracks down on the group they suspect
of involvement in paramilitary style attacks. A counter
demonstration of leftist activists passed off peacefully
as riot police prevented the two rival groups of protesters from
clashing. Golden Dawn is struggling for survival after
losing a third of its IP thought after Anti Fascist rapper Pavlos
faces was allegedly killed by a man who pledged allegiance to
the far right which by
the way, as far as I can tell is not true. They are number two or
number one in the polls regardless of whatever statistic
EURO NEWS just threw out there. Very very disturbing. The Greece
is it's kind of dropped off the radar after what now fight How
long is it going on John four years of this insanity three
years, four years. It's
amazing. The
the the unemployment numbers just came out. Almost 60%
unemployment, youth unemployment 60% More than and Europe was
touting all these 1.01% drop or something a point 1% Drop in
overall unemployment yet youth unemployment skyrockets even
more. It's very, very sad. And in the Ukraine, which you won't
hear a lot about the Ukraine. This is very interesting. The
Ukrainian government apparently does not want to join the
European Union.
Well, this is debatable. You might as well play Ukraine play
first clip. Interesting.
Okay, well, the news, sorry. and European leaders have just
wrapped up a summit in the Lithuanian capital Vilnius that
was dominated by the cranes decision to walk away from the
doom and false fantastical of a crag in Vilnius explains why the
Ukrainian leader has yet to sign the agreement.
At the moment is communication strategy is to say that he wants
to sign this agreement in the not too distant future. But it's
not really clear whether or not that's what his real intentions
are. Because one can ask, well, if you really wanted to sign it,
why wouldn't he sign it? Now? The Russian presser is not going
to let up anytime soon. The Russians have been perfectly
clear about that. So it's not all that easy to believe the
Victor Yanukovych really wants to sign this agreement, or at
least, if he does ever sign it, it will only be if he gets
something from the European Union that he hasn't so far got.
And that's what we're hearing from European diplomats in any
cases, the European Union is absolutely not prepared to give
Ukraine has been asking for very large amounts of financial
assistance from the European Union. And actually, the adviser
to Frosmo lon to was here said that that would going down that
road and starting to sort of deal with Ukraine in terms of
figures of potential financial assistance would be moving away
from the whole principle of the Eastern Partnership, which is to
encourage good governance and democracy and not to start doing
sort of geopolitical bargaining of who's going to be the highest
bidder between Europe and Russia in order to keep Ukraine within
its sphere of influence. I think the greatest hope for Ukraine to
move towards Europe is the will have its people who are still
demonstrating on the streets of Kyiv and live this evening.
Yeah, so I kind of caught the same thing, but I'll just play
the report quickly of the Euro news report.
Defying a ban on city centre protests 10s of 1000s of
Ukrainians are rallying and Kyiv to denounce the decision to
reject an EU deal. Undeterred by the court order and beatings
meted out to demonstrators on Saturday, they streamed back
towards Independence Square boxing champion turned
opposition leader Vitaly Klitschko spoke for many of the
authorities cannot and do not want to hear that people. The
authorities that use the police to beat people and not to
protect them should step down the government, the parliament
and the president. Ukraine's interior minister has warned
that police will respond if there's what he called mass
disturbances, but as demonstrators reappropriated the
square officers disappeared. In a bid to defuse tensions
President Jana COVID She rejected the deal in favour of
closer ties with Russia said he do all he could to speed up
Ukraine's moves towards the EU.
Okay, so that report is in its entirety, all farce at the
boxing guy. All of that is just all games for the masses. This
is clearly geopolitical. And there and your report, the van
cancer report is much closer to the truth. And this is about the
supply routes that go through the Ukraine for Russian gas.
Yeah, the van cat guys, you have a little one of those little
talks about it. No, really. They all conclude this. Yeah,
I mean, that's so either. They can play if the European Union
wants a hedge for Russian gas, and they would want to it
behoves them to bring the Ukraine in the Ukraine is
playing fair, you know, as a country as the leadership quote
unquote, of the country, which has nothing to do with what's
good for the people.
Well, the guy came out and he said he says that the Russians
did this. You had to read between the lines when the head
of the Ukraine came out, and kind of hinted that the Russians
were Gotta do a deal for energy because there's your all the
pipelines go through there a lot of them Yeah. And then
Ukrainians are essentially going to get a steal they're gonna get
like, you know, cheap.
Yeah And Russia has always been screwing with them. Yeah, they
turn it off they charge more
if they you know say we okay we're not going to go to the EU
because the EU if they went with the EU, which by the way I think
would be a sketchy situation because the Ukrainian operation
in its entirety is half Russians half Ukrainians, and it's
incredibly corrupt it's with they would be introducing a
really bad kind of a country into not the Ukrainians you can
write write me into the mix of the of the EU I don't think
you're really doing any good and I then and what they would try
to gouge the EU I mean, they already already showing us
of course, but you know, you don't want to play it's just
it's so fascinating.
We'll play my second Ukraine clip and see what they say
they're
great and Hola.
I have a question about this. To me
on that score. Let me get you to react in to some comments, the
polls and sweets particularly miffed by KIBS kyiv's About face
the Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt for bluntly wag the
finger at Putin, but also at Ukraine's President earlier in
the week. This is what he tweeted early this Friday from
the Vilnius summit that's been taking place between the EU and
Eastern Europe. Yeah, he's saying President Yanukovych must
show what we what he wants rumours that he's promised to
leave the European energy community would kill an
Association Agreement. Build saying that this is Yanukovych
playing both sides against the middle a little too much.
Of course, I mean, everybody playing everybody against
everybody, but it seems to me obviously, he's in a very
difficult situation. He's facing an election campaign. For one
thing, he needs the funds for that election campaign. And he
obviously has, as Anne was saying, a huge base within
Ukraine. That is not in a that favourable.
Yeah. Here's some money.
And who so why are the Swedes in particular upset about this and
it bitching about the energy situation? This, I guess,
somehow, they're gonna take it in the shorts, and I'm not sure
how, because we look at the maps, it's not obvious. But
somehow Sweden believes that they're going to be screwed over
by the Russians somehow, and is Ukrainian guys not helping? Hmm.
I this was
just I don't know.
I don't know either. I mean, I've been where it is clipped by
half because I can't figure out what what this fuss is, we're
gonna have to dig into it. Meanwhile, we're going after
Russia in every way we can with with anti Putin stuff, of
course. And so I came up with a Soshi Olympics hit piece that
they ran on, on one of the one,
let's just let's just back it up a second. For the new people we
have dissected that the so called anti gay laws in Russia,
are nothing more than a way to soak the American entertainment
industry, for 10s of 1000s of dollars for each movie that
comes out or tries to be released. In the in, in, in
Russia, for the corporate finds that are about the propaganda of
alternative lifestyles to children. It's not exactly the
same as you can't be gay, which is the way this is being played
and the way that my gay brothers and sisters are actually
promoting this attack against Putin without proper knowledge,
or at least a poorly informed about what's really going on.
So they had this I'm having to cut this to two since we're
running out of time. Although we don't really run out of time on
this show, we could have all over. So let's, let's start,
we've got something better to do. Now. Let's do all the least
three of them. Let's try let's start with that this was on Real
Sports with Brian Gumbel, who's the lead does he produces this
thing, it's on HBO. And they do a lot of political stuff, even
though it's all around centres around sports. So they go after
what they hit piece. And this is the socio Olympics hit piece.
That that kind of introduces some of the elements and I'll
explain what they're talking about here. We
asked Dmitry Chernyshenko, the President's right hand on the
Sochi Games, what he thought about so much being spent on
construction, when there were 1000s of people living like Leo,
in poverty, in Sochi alone. You can understand when people say,
cheese, that's a lot of money being spent, you know, in a
country that has so many people who are deprived of modern
conveniences Do you understand their concern? Yeah, I
understood
what you're saying. But I'm not agree with that. I can tell you
that this will be the first bright and notable victory for
the new, young Russian democracy.
but in a real democracy, there would be stories on national
television about the bribes about how Mr. Putin's friends
who are already fantastically wealthy are getting even richer
about how billions are being spent on the 10s of millions of
Russians don't
have running water. You're getting it already.
How much of a real young democracy are we really talking
about here?
You have to understand that Olympics is not about politics.
Hello, kettle, this is the pot calling.
Yes, worse? Yeah. So let's go. Let's go. And let's go to clip.
Did everyone understand the irony of that? Did everyone
understand
they will when the deadline is over? Because that's I kind of
emphasise the irony on all these clips. So let's go to the
Olympics, anti Putin guy comes out. He's got a book and he's
discovered this corruption.
No, there's gambling going on
in there. emsoft, who commissioned his own study into
the finances of the games, and doesn't like what he found out?
This is a
festival of corruption and mismanagement, a festival of
corruption. Oh, my God, oh, my God. This is a
festival of corruption and mismanagement. We have 20
million poor people in this country. We have a problem in
police, we have a problem in our hospitals put in spend $50
billion. For what?
For what? To put on a show that tells the world
show for himself a festival of
corruption. Passing good. That's great. That's show title. Yeah,
it is festival. Corruption.
So the festival of corruption he goes on. So they finish up
gumbos gets together with the reporter at the end. And this is
the final thoughts, and then they discuss this. And I don't
know, I want you to numbers that he threw out so far, it's $50
billion, that are spending on these Olympics now, which is
similar to what they spend everywhere, by the way, but it's
all because of Putin. And there's 20 million poor people
that are that should get this money, but they're not getting
it. So let's play the final thoughts. And then I'll give you
my final thoughts
should any of the surprises.
Russia has several traditions. One of them is sports. And that
sports tradition is they use it to show their strength and their
legitimacy to the world. The other is corruption. This is
this is like a perfect get together have to great tradition
without debating
whether or not Putin is really a president or really a dictator.
Was he able to do all this unilaterally? Or did he have to
pass it by an assembly of any kind?
I love your naivete. He's the strong man. Not only are these
his Olympics, he went to Guatemala City in 2007. And
personally lobbied for them. And it was that personal effort that
won the Olympics. And and this is important. Spending this kind
of money on the Olympics couldn't be done anyplace else,
because there'd be stories about it. Of course, there'd be
discussion about it. So the answer to your question is,
these are his games, and he gets what he wants. So you're free to
shoot anywhere you want it. They didn't. They didn't stop us. So
they didn't stop us in all fairness, wherever we want them
to go. We went.
All right, your thoughts. So
let's let me ask you a couple of questions. Okay. So they they
been a piece that talked about 20 million people in dire
poverty
in Russia, America during his illness. I'm sorry, I was gonna
say in America, but yeah,
no, no, what's the American number? Higher? 46? Yeah,
the American numbers 47, I think is 47,000,070 keeps going
up an inch is up 40. So we've got twice as many but that's
okay. So now Putin went to Guatemala to sell this thing for
himself. Didn't Obama go to like Copenhagen to sell the 2016
Olympics for Chicago? While he failed, but that's beside the
point. But what was the budget for those Olympics? Well, it was
according to Wikipedia, which talks about this whole thing
they they had thrown on the table $47 billion, which is just
which was going to be over budget. So it's going to be over
the 50 Russians. So we're going to spend at least as much as the
Russians are spending, we have more people in poverty, but the
Russians are the bad guys.
Well, this is how it works. You have to keep people focus their
eye on the ball as it's very simple. Over here,
nothing to see. Look at that.
That's what it is. That's how it works. Well played. I'd say
it was well played. But again, you know, all right.
Nice. Can I read an email from Iran? Have we ever received an
email from Iran? Do we haven't? Do you know if we've ever
received an email from Iran?
You've asked the question now three times in a row. I would
say no.
Hi, Adam. I'm 24 and I'm from Iran. I listen to your show, and
I love it. Most of it at least Why do people even do that?
That's like, you know, it's lame. Hey, Rembrandt, I liked
everything. But that's self portrait. So
why do you keep doing it again and again,
especially I love your thing about Muslim cultural aggression
in the Western world. It's very true. And I keep mentioning to
everybody, I'm not a Muslim, but I'm surrounded by Muslims and I
see them trying to make their life Western and absorbing
Western culture. It's probably because we're Persians and are
different from a RABs. And Iranians are mostly she is, I
don't know what the reason is. But anyway, I think this
cultural aggression is a real thing. But there's a difference
between Muslims. Oh, one other thing about Iran in my whole
life here I live in Tehran. I've never seen a woman with in a
burqa, but I see them in Europe. Ain't that weird? And one? Yes,
it is a couple of things. Allah vite, a sect of Shia that is
very close to the main brands of Shia with the only difference
that they are not into the hijab stuff to really sorry, I can't
donate. And here's the really the real crux of it, not because
I don't appreciate the work that you're doing, but it's because
every international transaction system has been blocked, so I
can't send you a donation. But as soon as this Iran us deal
gets through my first international money transaction
will be to you. Thank you for reading. Awesome. Alaikum says
sight. Nice. Yeah. How cool is that? That's a very cool letter.
Yeah, I thought that would be kind of nice to just read as we
sign off. There it is. We got no funds from Iran because of our
own sanctions. You could send us Bitcoin. There's an idea. Do you
want the bully song as an end of show clip?
The bully song?
Where a Bully Free Zone in this school?
Yeah, play it.
It's pretty bad.
I'll give it a whirl.
All right, it was bad. I don't know why you're gonna play it
but okay. But because
it's like disturbingly bad. Now you know what, I'm not gonna
play it. We'll keep it.
We'll we'll review it as a committee.
We have to put it in the meeting, which apparently we're
going to have. Alright, everybody. Thank you. For those
of you who did tune in Thank you. For those who did support
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