Oh, everybody has their own taste.
Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Remember third 2013 Time for your getting our nation media
assassination episode 562.
This is no agenda, resetting the
clock in more ways than one from the travel sites hanging out in
FEMA Region six Austin tea house in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where the six
week cycle is intact. I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg Levin Buzzkill.
Yeah, yeah,
this is annoying.
Like Me is annoying. Well, I was annoying, because for one thing,
I've got too many clips. Yeah. And
you had so many clips in my mail server had to reject it. And you
were so big, your your girth was so huge. Now, let me just tell
you what's annoying people. We need to go back on the six week
cycle and just explain where it came from. And then explain how
we deal with this on the no agenda show. We received from an
insider at the FBI the information that the FBI needs
to have some kind of event take place every six weeks to remain
relevant within the national security framework. And we
started tracking that, and we're pretty much spot on every single
time to the day. Now when this happens to the day, like this
lax shooting, it's okay to say hey, six week cycle on Twitter,
but the spiking the football is really not okay. It's like no,
no, no,
no, they're going to this has become such a problem in the
culture, which is this kind of a weird version of the me culture.
Yeah, that was, I think apparent in the 80s. It's kind of back
again, and I think that's why people are putting these little
bands and stuff on themselves, which is all about them. Yeah.
They've it's gotten so bad in college football, that they're
going to change the rule that people don't know this yet. But
there's a rule about taunting
now. You can lose the game if you taught in high school
football.
Well, this Yeah, they can throw that but they're taking it that
almost that far with college, if you score a touchdown, and do
any sort of taunting after you. I'm great to take the touchdown
away.
But John, there's a there's a quite a crevasse between spiking
the football in a game for a touchdown. And cheering me
death. Possible death and mayhem. And the best the best
response we got was a Mollywood came over for a couple of days
to stay with us. And she taped and she she was flying out on on
Friday. She texted Mickey she says Oh, I should know better
than to ever scheduled travel on the no agenda six weeks
schedule.
It's actually it's a good point. Yeah, you should
not schedule and what does when is the next?
You mentioned I'm gonna look it up is this right after
Thanksgiving? I guess this event took place technically, I guess.
On Friday. Yeah. So we got 1/8 12345
So it would be December 13. Yeah. 12th or 13th. Wow
show on the 15th and will that we put the range within it we we
put it as though the range is between the eighth and the 20 at
the give it a big hole? Yeah, with the 13th in the middle
hoping to target a third.
Oh hope hoping to win on the well, actually, I don't I had I
had to kind of words this morning with the ladies. I don't
feel so bad because as far as I'm concerned, nothing's
happened. And I have I have no empirical evidence of of
anything of anyone being dead or nothing. Just have no evidence
whatsoever. Give me one shot please email me one picture
of a victim. Well, there is a picture that says a day that New
York poses some guy who's the same guy.
It's the New York Post with that with that letter posted that guy
with like tomato gunk next to him. It's not it's not even a
statement of human being. That looks like a practice dummy.
I have no idea what that would what that guy is but they claim
you know when in fact, we had it. The thing that was
interesting about this is that and I got on it right away soon
as it happened. I got on the feed from KTLA which was just
reporting around the clock right because the best part of these
stories As the beginning always before they have the story
straight, always, always. So we have my job play a couple of
these right now to get them out of the way. But here's a gear is
the one that is probably the key to try it. Of course, you know,
these eyewitnesses are just hopeless. Let's listen to the
LAX story. Early eyewitness. Okay. Very detail. I
wonder if if we have some of the same clips by any chance.
Witnesses who who've been helping piece together exactly
what happened in terminal three? And Carolyn mentioned a few
moments ago, while you guys were recapping what was said in the
news conference, that's a question was asked, Could this
could the suspect be a TSA agent? Well, joining us now is
gentlemen, Jose, you're on your way to Oklahoma. Right.
This was this was the first part and and it's kind of
interesting. And, John, are we just taking the stance right off
the bat here that this? This was a possibly just another drill
maybe not real? Is that where you're at in this? Or?
I'm actually more ambiguous than you are? I don't know anything.
But but But you mentioned that we should at least mention this
before you continue with that clip. Why don't you play the LAX
training exercise clip? So you were aware of this?
Yeah, hold on a second. Yeah, I think we have pretty much the
same here. I may have one little variance here.
The airport police chief Patrick cannon did say that very
recently, his officers trained in this exact kind of a scenario
and that that training proved critical this morning, that
there were not more casualties than the seven people injured,
and possibly one killed that we saw this morning. So we're still
trying to gather a lot of information. Yes.
Let me let me actually play the sound clip of the LAX police
chief where he he actually not only admits to the training, but
admits to something else and corrects himself to make it even
better.
Damn, it's unfortunately it involved an officer involved
shooting, but that's what needed to be done in that particular
situation. And that was her rollin. We practice to this. Not
more than three weeks ago, we took every one of our officers,
our patrol officers, and a couple of 100 officers from the
Los Angeles Police Department. And we practice the exact
scenario that played out today. We played out today and I and I
was talking
to the How did he not correct himself from saying that played
out today to say that we played out today?
Yeah, he did make the correction though. This guy, I had that
clip to you, we have the same clips. This is not good. But
that's okay. It does happen once. This guy, by the way is
very irksome. He has a huge underbite. And so he talks kind
of he has this funny way of talking that is just annoying. I
don't see how anyone could work.
But when you look at the video in the background is the special
agent of the FBI who's in charge. And you'll see him
looking kind of, you know, staring ahead. And when the
police chief goes, this is what played out what we played out.
You see him like, put his hand to his brow, like a wipe is his
hand over his face. Like what is the guy's saying? Well,
we had a report on KTLA about the FBI being on the scene
because apparently it was disconcerting to a bunch of
people. Why was the FBI there in the first place? And they came
up, I thought with a pretty good kind of a weasel their way out
of the how to how to explain the FBI being there, you know,
because apparently, they're right off the bat.
But we're getting as much as we can, bit by bit from the
different officials who are out here. We have seen FBI agents.
And there was a question, in fact, why the FBI is involved in
all of this. And the airport police chief explained that
well, this is a multi jurisdictional area where you
have all these different agencies who oversee the
airport, airport, police, LAPD, LA County Sheriff's Department,
the FBI, Homeland Security and so forth. So it's just a multi
jurisdictional area, kind of a campus. So that's why all of
these different law enforcement agencies are involved in dealing
with this kind of crisis. And with the investigation
afterwards. Yeah,
that's not what the police chief said. Actually. I have the
question and his answer is he did not say because it's a
campus or anything like that. Here's what he said. The FBI is.
This is an airport, that it's an airport. It this is this crap.
It's an airport
that has federal jurisdiction. We have FBI assets here. Is that
true? Does the airport have federal jurisdiction? That's it.
I don't think that's necessarily true. Isn't the airport private
property I
asked us why do you even have the LA or the airport police at
all then just tell people to move along the way
Don't do annoy yeah annoy you. That's why Yeah, no, that made
no sense his answers not that good.
And it's a unified command involving everybody. But the
investigative lead has been decided to take by, by the FBI,
the shooter or federal.
His answer is not quite like oh, this is normal procedure on the
campus. It's like no the decision was made for the FBI to
take command of course, it's an FBI operation my take
before we get well I'm not you know, this is the would be the
theory that we this would be the no agenda thesis. So it's not
really your take. It is the no agenda take because this is what
we've come up with since the day well, the first event in the
cycle was always always FBI. You just read with the with the
theory, I'm more sceptical about the whole thing is that I'm the
one who you know should be all on all in. I just think the
whole thing was I don't know what to think of it. That's my
my take on it. Well, and here's here's the thing that kind of
got me that. I want you This is like an ask Adam since you're
the air playing guy.
That's how we pilots refer to ourselves.
Air pod. Aeroplane guy. Aeroplane guy. Good landing.
Okay, I don't want you to play that before. We still put this
like a shaggy dog story to play that guy's clip where he says
it's a TSA guy shooting down the escalator way, man. Where
do you have this clip? No, no,
this clip I want you to play as lax story, San Jose, and then I
have a question for you. Okay.
San Jose airport took and diverted flights yesterday and
at least nine flights were cancelled. Last night a group of
high school musicians from Thailand boarded a bus to LAX
after their flight from JFK was diverted to San Jose. The group
had just performed in New York and was supposed to use the same
terminal where the shooting took place.
Right. What's the question? The question is
there in the LA basin, you have Ontario you have Burbank you
have long beach which is underutilised by a lot. And then
you have San Diego 150 miles away. Why would you land a plane
in San Jose 400 miles away 440 miles away from LAX as a
diversion when there's all these other airports nearby and the
other terminals were working and they were landing planes?
Well, I can't answer that because I just don't know what
the traffic at Los Angeles International Airport is one of
the busiest in the world. And when and it all depends on every
single flight has. When you when you plan your flight, you have
to say okay, here's my, my first version and here's my second you
know, here's here's the, the airports that will go to in case
of an emergency it more than likely actually the airline had
that as their alternate, or was maybe as their second off. Okay,
that answers the question. So that is not that crazy as long
as I had enough fuel.
It just seems nuts to me. Well, it's possible that
that's why that's why you're not an aeroplane guy. Because we
don't said I
was just seems crazy. But with you're coming around from New
York, I think you might be coming down I think we'd like
over Mono Lake or somebody to get de la really depends, but it
would be easier. It'd be easier just to stop in San Jose save
money
now, but but there's a lot of planes that were like just going
to stop somewhere or do something, you know, most of
them yeah, this type of situation and there's a lot
going on. So I don't think that's that strange. It's
certainly annoying if that's what your alternate diversion
is. If that's right, you're dropped off. That's horrible.
Yes. No doubt no doubt.
Okay. Well, there was also there was a couple of other there's a
lot of weird reports and I sure didn't get clips of all of them
but it was pretty funny. Some woman said that she before her
plane left she was on the tarmac before the shooting and she said
there was a whole slew of helicopters before the shooting
the hanging around terminal three and she was wondering
without she just thought that was fishy. And then there was a
report which I do have a clip of, of a of a parently in LA
Police Department chopper escorting a KLM flight to the
ground
Yeah, I saw this little bit on television
Mark has a very unusual situation why would that chopper
be flying above that plane like that?
You know what? That's a good question. Now that's pleased
helicopter that is just kind of alongside that KLM flight we
don't know what the nature of that will be you know if you
want to call it an escort is or not but certainly that KLM
flight just kind of landed on the north runway to for right
and appeared to be being followed by the police
helicopter. We don't know that that is the case. It could be
just kind of our angle there. But you know, we will try and
investigate that and bring that to you here shortly guys. Okay,
and
just saw that there was nothing going on there. I saw that
happening. I cuz I just saw the the KLM flight like, Oh, that's
interesting. KLM it's just there are people on the tarmac and you
know, this
was a joke. It was it was kind of roaming around. Yeah.
The whole thing just really, really. Huh. Look what I'm
missing. I don't know if you've seen it, but you know, there's
a, there's the chopper video. And this is pretty much viral
now on YouTube, where you see two guys pushing a wheelchair
with really what looks like a dummy. Dressed in a TSA uniform.
Like, really?
I mean, he flees, you've seen the shot overhead. Oh, that's
the shot that you would do overhead shot with. This guy saw
that? Yeah. Those arms are hanging
like the rubber head bouncing around. And then and then
there's this New York Post shot of what is supposed to be the
shooter who was supposed to be dressed and you know, first
it's, it's a dark grey camos then it's loose baggy clothing
then it's dark blue, then it's no one has seen the actual guy
only heard stuff.
But here play the LAX description This will get you
have this clip, I'm sure this is the conflicting descriptions in
my there's one in there just my favourite because it just sounds
like they've got a surfer.
Let me ask you a question. Sarah Welch was just talking to a
witness. And he said the gunman. He thought he was a TSA agent,
or at least he was dressed like one. Could you get any
indication from any of the officials around there that what
he was wearing?
They refuse to comment on that they wouldn't give us any
details about that. I've heard reports earlier from some
witnesses that said the guy was wearing some kind of camouflage
pants or khaki camouflage pants, and a blue jacket. That's what I
heard and though they also did say he was clean cut, white male
clean cut with dirty blonde hair. That's what that's what I
heard. But I heard from more than one witness and through
various news agencies and reports that he was wearing some
kind of camouflage pants,
okay, that would certainly refute you know what our witness
said? But I'm sure there's a lot of conflicting you know,
scenarios here a lot of people think they see something they
don't save and obviously, you remember what a TSA agent I
believe they're they wear black pants and a blue shirt right?
This is no way it's totally useless. You know all of this is
just completely I'm always looking for
well this is this is this pushes you're out you're you're you're
buying into the whole thing is bullcrap. And by the way you I
think are six weeks out even goes back to that crazy story
about what you I think, again, was sceptical about what the
naked guy in the street shooting if people driving around
remember that? Yeah, two or three years ago and the guy was
turned out to be an actor that has there ever been a follow up
on that
story? No, of course not. So what we would need from this the
airport is filled with with cameras, we would need to have
some kind of security footage and if it's going to be the same
level as the as the Navy Yard shooting, which was a guy with
with a with a shotgun with no extra ammo with no other weapons
on him not even shooting you know, it's just not believable.
And at least I'm consistent. You know, it's like I said there
were seven people wounded Where are where are they?
Well, here's another thing about the wounded. So they took at
least three or four of them to to UCLA med centre where they
were under lockdown and they wouldn't let anyone talk to any
of them and I'm looking at the at the map the area map around
lax and UC medical centre is like during rush hour is a good
40 minutes away and there's three at least three to five
nearby hospitals that could handle this now you see system
of course we we've discussed them being compromised with the
government the entire system and that UCLA would be included
right? Because all the CIA agents even the new ones that
are the some of them get least come out of Berkeley it looks
like so why would you go and by the way to get to UCLA mister do
you have to go up to 405
My favourite even with
sirens on you cannot move up because that you can't people
can't move over and but John we know you're if you're on the 405
in any lane and a siren guy goes you can move over there's no
place to move over to this locked
and but there was also they had triage with no one in the
triage. They they're running they're rolling you know either
a real person or a
dummy front of terminal to in front of the exit doors but
they're
rolling people by and you got firemen just not even looking
added. I mean, it was just wasn't believable. I just don't
have anything tangible to say that actually happened. You
know, I got some TMZ footage TMZ really TMZ footage of people
running. Everyone has a different story. Every single
witness has a different story. And when I hear witnesses like
this, the words that are used, I'm like, it's just bothersome
because I don't think whenever there's a man on the street
interview, it's always a moron. And now we get people who talk
about stuff going through security Mark, what happened?
Well, we were just putting our belongings onto the belt to be
screened. And first
of all, who says belongings? Do you ever would you? I put my
belongings on the belt. Would you say that?
Let me think about that for a minute. Might be I don't think
I've ever used the word belongings
No. Hey, that's it. That's my shit. That's my stuff. Those are
my those are my belongings, no
belongings,
that's that is a term, cop term, or script or something.
Yes, script writer,
that is not a term that you use. That's like when I did Swamp
Thing. At a certain point. i The only part that I had trouble
with and I'm going to an actor, is I noticed
pretty the firewall doesn't like that. I had to use the word
blato. I was blocked Oh man. I'm like, I've never I've never met
and
he says that 1920s You know,
and I and I was playing like this rock and roll, you know,
heavy metal guy. And, and you know, so I was completely
hammered and whatever. And then I'm, oh man, I'm sorry. I was
completely Blotto. I said, Dude, I've hung out with people. They
don't say blot. Oh, and but the writers refused. It's like, No,
you're saying blato? That's a that's a perfectly good term. i
Okay, fine.
Writers refuse all the fine writers of Swamp Thing. They
have high standards. Well,
I mean, it's just as good as belongings
Come on, be screened. And we just heard, like, eight shots
just ring out bang, bang, bang, bang. That's for and we all hit
the deck, we hit the deck.
We hit the deck was this guy from World War Two nother thing?
I wouldn't say that is to say that.
Yeah, we like we hit the deck. Okay,
and for about, I don't know, 15 seconds, we were all down. And
then all of a sudden, everybody just started running through TSA
down into the, into the gates the terminal there. And TSA was
running with us. And we just said keep running, keep running.
And as as we were running, there was probably another 15 to 20
shots that we heard in behind us. And we just kept running. We
got out of the terminal building down onto the tarmac. And we ran
over towards terminal to just out underneath. Now
this is problematic. Because the only I've I think there's a
whole bunch of things that really don't work for me. So at
LAX security, you have to go upstairs, up the stairs first to
get into the security, because the whole lax is kind of built
on a slope down. It's very weird construction. And I think I'm
not sure if terminal three but you can't just jump out onto the
tarmac unless you're going all the way to the end down the
stairs. I think they have two or three gates there. That may
Yeah, it's just one of those double decker things. The second
fist but not that different than SFO, the second
roar. Right, right. Right. At the end. Exactly. So but this is
all just like wow, and the TSA was running. Like run bitches
planes. And so all the people that were in all the people that
were in line to be screened, we stormed in through the security
gates. I mean, that's breaching security too, so
breaching security. Another word that Justice like? I don't know,
man, who is this guy makes
everybody nervous. So but we just kept running away from the
shots, obviously. And we ducked into Terminal two and then you
know, we kind of have made our way out here but as you know,
scary moments here for sure. It's scary
movies. Now he sounds like he's a newscaster. scary moments for
sure. Yeah. Back to you, Bob. Good.
Oh, okay. Let's listen to the long winded clip. Yeah, the one
we've been putting off here, which is the guy who's your
early eyewitness, right? The early eyewitness who built it,
we wait. We're gonna listen to it with new ears, okay, looking
for script terminology, or botches and this guy, by the
way, blows it a lot. If you're gonna if we can take the theory
that this is scripted, this guy stinks as an actor. Does he say
Blotto at any point? No, he does. Not Okay, thank you
speaking
to eyewitnesses who've been helping piece together exactly
what happened in terminal three. And Carolyn mentioned a few
moments ago while you guys were recapping what was said in the
news conference. That's a question what asked, Could this
could the suspect be a TSA agent? Well, joining us now is a
gentleman Jose, you're on your way to Oklahoma. You were in the
terminal. And you said you got a very clear description of what
the gunman looked like.
Correct. He was dressed in blue like he looked like a TSA agent
or security.
Wait a minute. The guy in the New York Post is not dressed in
all blue. You'll agree with me on that, right? Oh, yeah,
the New York Post. He's like, guy doesn't look like he's
anybody. If I saw him in an airport, I'd be sketchy. I
couldn't even hold a rifle. That
guy. He has no arms in the picture. Why his
arms you can see there's cuffed behind his back because one hand
is hanging out below beneath. I'm sorry, but
his buttocks or whatever that rubber is.
blend in with them pretty much.
So describe to us what he blended in. Yeah, pretty much in
front of
your eyes. We're waiting for to borrow an app or plan to get our
tickets to go into a next step. Just know.
So he's at the ticket counter yet he sees this guy over at
security and says already wrong, John, this is fucking crazy. Ya
know, I'm telling you. I'm sorry.
I can't I gotta stop it. The guy's already full of crap. Oh
no, it gets better.
As we're waiting, there is a big loud sound going off and we just
all froze waiting to see what it was. And after that, we heard
the second round that's when we all just went to the floor. We
didn't we didn't hesitate we all just went down.
But then you said moments later you picked your head above
luggage.
Yeah, because once the shot started going crazy, that's when
I told my wife duck get on the floor. I managed to get on top
of her and throw a bunch of luggage and that's when I made a
wall out of luggage is and from there I glanced at the guy he
was walking towards us because he was not yet to be in terminal
three he was coming from terminal four or we don't even
know where he came from
they didn't hire this guy John. This is just This is no this is
this guy just he's just lying. It's just I'm gonna get on TV.
So he's Yeah, well but by the way that is not an uncommon
phenomenon right
just like I got on my wife so I could build a wall of luggage
please please
so the guy apparently is coming in from terminal to eg corrects
himself lady terminal for is on the other side of the
parking lot well let's let's I'm game for some more if it's gonna
get ya know play I'm telling
you get a kick out of it. But you know i He's apparently at
the ticket booth which I find you Okay, so he guys walking in.
I guess he's shooting already. But that
which does not at all, jive with any of the story?
No, the main story here. Okay, let's go over the main the final
scenario tell you
what the way I the way I heard the story which was most
believable of this unbelievable story. So the guy is walks up
says are you TSA? At the at the screening booth where they asked
for your ticket. Which is like really you got to ask,
are you at GSA yet? But suppose he says are you TSA?
And there's even some other report says no, I'm not okay,
carry on. I'm just here to kill TSA. Yeah, that's how it always
goes with these guys. And then he shoots someone, and then he
rushes through and a shooting all over the place. Now this guy
is saying he's shooting from outside. Other people say he was
shooting from downstairs the escalator. This guy can even say
you heard shots. You heard a bang a loud noise or whatever
this is. I'm just sorry, John, unless I see some video of video
evidence.
Well, they have to doctor that first. They need to see the
security cam stuff.
Yeah, they do need some time. Well, this guy is good, though.
I think he's a certainly. And did I mention is clip worthy
that I mentioned that this happened just in time for the
beginning of November sweeps week. I'm not kidding. And you
know that CNN was all in I mean, CNN, they interrupt they they
they preempted Burnett for this thing. Everyone else went back
to their regular shows at a certain point CNN did not stop.
No, CNN knows they know a winner when they see when anything. I
mean they they made their reputation on on wall to wall
coverage of stuff like this. Now,
just before we continue so here, here's the the conversation I
had this morning, that by taking this stance that you know,
because I truly really, I can't say anything other than just
because they're saying it on the news. And just because you've
got some people saying they heard something, but no one
really saw anything. I don't know if it actually happened and
I'm very consistent in these things. There's no evidence of
any form right now except we do have a woman who says My husband
was killed. She happens to be the worldwide budget account
executive for Warner Brothers. You might as well just keep it
in the in the entertainment industry. That's all we have.
And that always works. You know, we had pistol and all those guys
fly out there. And we've got that's all we have, you know, we
really don't have anything else we got this bogus picture, which
doesn't help the their story any? No, that picture is
terrible. And then when I got his Well, this is the no agenda
way of dealing with these tragedies. And I said, no, no
this it's not somebody said that to you, you're my wife.
It's not the no agenda.
No, no, because and let me add to that, that when we do this, a
lot of people feel hurt, because they it makes them feel like oh,
I can't feel bad about someone being shot and killed. Because
now the no agenda way of thinking is telling me I'm
stupid,
no. Brainwashed is.
It's not even brainwashed. It's just when you you know, oh, my
god, the art was what is the name, I always promote this
thing. The Zen TV experiment is once a year, at least I tell you
to Google the Zen TV experiment. And it's a it's a series of
experiments, and you follow these, and you will understand
what television does to you, and how your brain fills in all the
blanks. So this is a fantastic example, where you're being told
things by people who are come across as very believable until
you really start to analyse it. And by the way, only listening
to them and not seeing them really helps with the analysis
is very, very important that we spot years ago, that is
absolutely correct. Very
important to do that. Because the techniques, they they put
pictures over top, there's all these things you see may him
you'll actually
I'll give you credit on this one, because you're the one who
made this observation. When I used to do clips called bad
acting. Yes. And it was the it was mostly the shows the Dick
Wolf shows Law and Order series. And then its sub sub
contractors, right? And it was so obvious that these people
were that almost all of their acting was the visual. Yeah,
because if you just listen to them talk, it was not even good
die. It was terrible.
And you know what's interesting now that I think about this,
because I, when something like this happens, I jumped to
everything I'm zapping all over the place. I'm trying to find
everything I can when you cannot get any moronic clips from for
instance, NPR, because you know, a radio guy, or someone who was
trained in putting together audio reports would never put
this in there. Because like, this guy is crazy. He's making
no sense. You never hear these reports. You only get them from
television, where you are so obsessed with the visual and the
the tension that is brought there and switching back.
Right and they'll be right and they'll be talking to you with
some of this dubious information. Why do they roll
out that that TSA guy that rubber suit guy or whatever that
whatever that
was? That was the Yeah, I think that's the one you you practice
the mouth to mouth resuscitation on or something.
And they threw him in the ambulance. Nobody. Yeah. Anyway,
let's just continue this guy gives you a very good idea of
how how stupid this really is.
So he's walking towards us he managed to stop right there by
the escalator and I'm still looking at him. I'm still
looking at him he already he already have to his clamp. He's
already grabbing another gun shooting down the escalator as
he's doing that. That's that's when I
now there's a second gun apparently that we that we have
no evidence of tell my
wife I need to get out of here. Just it's either the escalator
or he's gonna come towards us. And that's what we did. We just
ran.
So as we're all trying to sort out who this gunman is again
describe to us clearly what you saw. And you also told us that
you witnessing two weapons
correct there's two weapons playing playing apart and
yes, you some more acting languages gun
man look like a TSA agent to me. Because he was dressed like
that, like a security TSA agent. He was pretty big. I mean,
bigger than me like body wise. So I thought I bet he was gonna
go crazy today. He had a body armour on
body. His kid by the way, three names Paul Anthony, CIA and CIA,
which was just like, Oh my God. I mean, it's cn, CN, CN CF CNC,
I think it's how I actually I didn't get the clip there when
they when his name was first released. Oh, when the name was
first released. They were trying to pronounce it on television.
They're like, we have the name now. It's Paul Anthony. I can't
put I'm not sure how to pronounce this Shan Shia. I
would just CIA and CIA. That's how you spell it. Like really? I
do. You need to throw this in my face. that I mean, that to me
was just the clincher. And the guy has and the guy has no face
book. Now he's from New Jersey from by the way, a wealthy
family if that truly has his house, they got like a horse
farm. So okay, fine, all all totally believable.
And you notice that you notice that all the reporting on the
supposin piece of paper that he carried. But every one was
different once a New World Order, says I'm coming to kill
TSA and pigs and pigs. Yeah. This guy from the 60s
Actually, I really love this part, because this is also what
was promised to us promised by Department of Homeland Security,
that we would know that the real threat and this is in we have
all these documents, we've discussed them we've we've had
these these letters that go out to all the police forces around
the country. Muslim crazy is Islam as terrorists. That's not
your worry. No, it's people who are part of the patriot
movement, people who are anti government, people who vote for
Ron Paul, people who say End the Fed all of these things, and lo
and behold, without any proof, I've seen no paper I've seen
nothing. We had all of a sudden we know that this
and the accused gunman may have been a conspiracy theorist,
federal officials say he had materials referencing the New
World Order CNNs Pentagon correspondence correspondent
Barbara Starr. Let's
bring in Barbara Starr, the Pentagon correspondent to
explain conspiracy theorists and New World Order ladies and
gentlemen, she's
live in Washington. Now, Barbara, let me ask you this.
You know, do you know anything at this point what officials are
saying about this? Well, some information is now emerging. Our
justice reporter Evan Perez has spoken to federal law
enforcement official who says materials found on the shooting
suspect did include a rant that appeared to rant
John a rant about the rant rant, and I hope I hope I hope it was
a no agenda sticker
reference that new world order as well as anti TSA, anti
government claims. It's not clear what really gave rise to
these references. Federal investigators have found no
known links to any groups or anything in the suspects
background to explain them for people, perhaps
okay, you come here for people who perhaps need to be
brainwashed slave wash now into understanding conspiracy theory
about the New World Order. Barbara Starr, Pentagon
correspondent shall explain it to you
not familiar New World Order is generally accepted to be a
conspiracy theory where people believe that there are elites
out there forming some sort of special author authoritarian
government. This is the generally accepted view of what
New World Order means. But investigators Allison's still
looking into all of this.
And for those of you who may just be listening to the no
agenda show now for the first time, I would like to play for
you a clip, where the term New World Order was pretty much
first used in public by the grand conspiracy theorist of
them all, the biggest the mack daddy of all the elites,
we have before us the opportunity to forge for
ourselves and for future generations, a New World Order,
a world where the rule of law, not the law of the jungle
governs the conduct of nations when we are successful, and we
will be we have a real chance at this new world order, an order
in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping
role to fulfil the promise and vision of the UN's founders.
Excuse me. Is that not creepy enough for you Barbara Starr
it's
pretty creepy.
That is President Bush one one well, to set it and
clean the data. This was the best speech you've you've got.
That is the definitive clip.
So you know, let me just roll back just for a second here what
she was telling us just so we can see if that if that gels
with what you just heard. Come on Barbara, talk to me and talk
to me girl.
generally accepted to be a conspiracy theory where people
believe that there are elites out there forming some sort of
special author authoritarian government. Yes, it's the
generally accepted view of what New World Order means.
That's exactly what President Bush said. Not some law of the
jungle for you jungle bunnies.
Nice try the accent
Oh, no, that's fallen apart.
No, I know it was actually I have one I have here I've got a
little
got people to think of the music might work
if we don't have to play any more of that character, it's
it's, it's got the points played. It's played, but let's
play at least this one which I think was one of these good
little side stories that kind of came out of it. This is the LAX
wrong guy syndrome.
Oh, yeah, this was another good one damn forever to get there.
Absolutely. And we heard earlier another witness told one of our
reporters that as he was running away from the scene, he had
police officers surround him pointing guns at him not knowing
if he himself was a suspect, handcuffing him. So you know,
just a scene of complete chaos. Our reporter Chris Wolf, has
been speaking with law enforcement officers. He was
just at the press conference. He's joining us live now. Chris,
what can you tell us?
Yeah, we had some questions answered Carolyn and Glenn and
so many other pressing ones though not answered. And it's
was very frustrating for so many of the reporters out here very,
very frustrating. Namely, were there any fatalities Was anyone
killed? We're seeing here I have
something that I need to share that that share, share it. This
was really the thing that set me on. Okay. Now, I know this is
something is up in Bogota with this. The Southern Poverty Law
Centre. Okay, yeah. What Yes, this is the Southern Poverty,
let's just review who they are for mode. The Southern Poverty
Law Centre is a group who are always referenced not just by
media, but also by politicians, as tracking the evil that exists
in America. Evil primarily hate groups, white supremacist,
racist, and I've always felt very uneasy about the Southern
Poverty Law Centre, they are the go to guys and they post on
their website. Southern Poverty loss counts at what is the SPLC
exclusive. So this is an extension exclusive where they
got there, they got a news organisation apparently,
alleged lax shooter referenced anti government manifesto. To
just think about what they're doing here. c&c as language and
reference, this show is doomed. Paul Anthony Seon Sia, who
allegedly wounded three other TSA workers before being shot
and critically wounded himself also expressed antagonism
towards the Department of Homeland Security, and its chief
until she resigned in August Janet Napolitano The source said
CNCS note called former Janet Napolitano a bull dyke and
contain the phrase fu Janet Napolitano. To this is an
exclusive they have now
this is a secure stop depresses hate Watch
has no records of Seon sia and he is not known to have joined
or participated in the activities of any radical
groups. The attack which c&c allegedly carried out using a
semi automatic 223 calibre ar 15. Boy they have that
information. I guess they got all the forensics right right
off the bat beautiful comes at a time when the patriot movement
has been growing by leaps and bounds from Psalm 149 groups in
2008 to 1360 last year, according to core two counts by
the Southern Poverty Law Centre. That explosive growth seems to
have been driven by the election of our first black president and
the approaching loss of a white majority in the US that he
represents. Fuck you. These guys are these guys are crazy. They
are they are this is racial hatred. These people should be
shut down.
That's not okay. Just hatred. Yeah,
that's not okay. That is racist. Outrageous crap.
Yeah, no, I'm all I'm all right. orrible horrible racist
assertion, um, and you got to remember that Obama wouldn't be
elected if it wasn't for the white vote.
But forget about that. I'm incensed that these guys who
were supposedly tracking racism This is racist
does this so this is the this is not new to us. No, but I'm out
of breath NBC promotes this you've been predicting
and I'm so I'm upset momentarily because you know, after this I'm
going to smoke some weed and I'll carry on with my life. But
oh man, this is this just so not okay. This is
the stoking the joking Stokes a bunch of people like that
stoking the the embers of a potential race riot there. I'm
convinced that they're valuable put Al Sharpton into this group
and a lot of others that would love to sit back. They won't be
in it. Sit back and watch a race, right? Because if there's
money to be made,
this is the person profit in a race in a massive race. Right.
You're so right. This is written by Mark Potok. He's the senior
fellow he is. He is the Southern Poverty Law Centre. And I have a
video and audio of him actually admitting that they lie. You
know, though, well, we have to Trump it up a little bit. I
mean, the guy is an asshole. I'm sorry. It's just he's, this is
not okay. It's just not okay. This is we this is unAmerican to
do this to say these groups in your wall, it's because of black
president, please. You have no evidence of that. Ah, so what's
even more disappointing. Really, really, for me? Well, for the
show disappointing. It's another instalment. Oh, with the Friday
night.
No, you're telling me Wait a minute, you did the show. In
other words, this is just good becoming a dead end. You we have
a jingle.
We have a jingle. And it's a dead and I could not. And I lay
back
a little bit.
You know what? You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, you know
what, you know what, you know what? What, guess what? I? They
have meetings before they you
know, no, no, no, not only that. They listened to the show before
the dinner. They admitted that now we listen to the show. This
is no good. No. Oh, oh, man. So they listen to the show. They
suck.
Now there's just another group that you can hit. You might as
well have dinner with a couple men on the street. Well, if
somebody doesn't listen
shows up dinner with Hold on a second. They don't suck. This is
Don't say that. My friends? I actually because I felt it early
on. And there is a
total they're treating you like you're criminally insane. No,
no, no, no, no, you feel good. And there's something else now
there's something there's something else going on? And I
think that so the narrative has
dad up with him. Don't bring that up with him. Don't bring
that up with me. We know what he's gonna say. He's already
said it on the show. Don't even talk about it. No, no, no,
as possible they have that meeting. I think it's worse I
think they have become apathetic is that the word could be just
unaffected. And you know, now that
Obama, it was that clip that we had from Glenn Greenwald last
show where he says how do the Democrats feel about this?
They're all on the side of bush I mean, this is unique because
Greenwald's a real progressive that thinks that that Obama is
Bush three and I think that there's a lot of that kind of
thinking as as as the drone thing continues in this spying
thing continues in this ludicrous healthcare.gov thing
doesn't work and never will. Yeah. All what all that goes on.
I think it throws a lot of the Democrats into the wound,
because they don't they don't want to deal with it. Well, you
know, what
actually happened? The professor, I think the professor
is is on our side. There were so many things. We did talk about
healthcare.gov. And the professor, you know, he he has
full access to the one of the best supercomputer centres in in
the academic world. The UT supercomputer centre and
resources are better than Stanford. This, you know, this,
it's much better organised, it's more powerful.
And they like to say, No,
I think you didn't get they'll get there. Stanford just was
late to the game somehow. And UT, you know, it's kind of in
their DNA to have this. But do so he understands these big
systems. And he want to talk about a little bit and you know,
and he understands is not just a stupid website, I mean, the guy
the guy is he programmes, that's part of what he does.
Oh, that's a big deal. Well, before you go on with that
little explanation, we do have to play this one clip, which
kind of gets people up to speed, which is healthcare.gov
enrollment.
newly revealed documents have provided hard numbers showing
just how few people were able to enrol in health insurance
through the new government website amidst massive technical
failures. The Obama administration says there were
4.7 million unique visits to the site in the first 24 hours. But
according to notes from a meeting on the morning after the
launch, just six people had successfully enrolled.
Of course, it didn't work. It's very obvious that's I love that.
So but just to stay with the dinner for a sec, because there
weren't there were some little gems to that. He just couldn't
know he on his he's like, Yeah, you know, this is a horrible
mess. And and then we'd have a little bit of conversation like
do you think if commercial companies did this and no. Oh,
Tim There's a reason why you have to wait five minutes to get
your airline ticket. And because it's a batch process and it took
years for the airlines to integrate their legacy systems,
I mean I integrated Avon ladies and we did took years for us to
do that with Avon, ladies. Okay. Avon system is is not easy that
just hubris is what it is just hubris so
it's also naivete,
naivete, but Well, I think part of that is hubris. But I think
what's happening and you see this with people we know as
well, I don't want to point out the obvious, but Leo, you see
that they kind of give into it. And you know, and they just for
the they, it's hard for them to live with the idea that every
day it is just more of the same, you know, hello to the new boss,
same as the old boss. And so they just become they put like
shields up you know, shields go up, okay, you know, whatever,
we'll just we'll just deal with it as it is as it comes. And so
that there was not even one single mention of crazy guns. In
fact, this thing that happened it's not even getting anti gun
stuff rolling. People don't care anymore John, they've now become
numb to it if you can, you can't throw stuff at people every six
weeks and expect them to to care after a while because then you
become removed.
Well there's a couple of problems with steroid use. Let's
take the six weeks and assume that it's a well thought out
cycle. Well, probably the maximum number of times you can
do this in a year within a year let's say I mean somebody this
is not since we spotted it. This is obviously been studied
you also know that Comey happened to be in in LA the
brand new Director of the FBI just happened to be in Los
Angeles when this went
down I go in by coincidence Yeah of course. Okay, so you have
this you inundating the public with these events that are all
you know the Boston bomber or this some one event or another
and you end up with no you know then you go with what you're
going with let me try to get through this you go with gun
control as your issue as the try to think this what we're gonna
do we're gonna get this guns things taken care of. And then
you roll out your gun proposals. And the counter the group on the
other side rolls out all just inundation they flood the market
with reasons that this isn't going to work. Why it's not a
good idea. We got too many guns already. There's nothing to do
about it. And on and on. And until you do it again, you try
something else. And then again, the set flood of pro gun stuff.
And at some point, you know, some of the pro gun stuff starts
to that you never heard before. Because you've always been anti
gun and you've never shot a gun. You've never done anything with
guns but you start hearing this, which you never would have heard
before. This is like the the popularisation of mp3. This one
has remained an underground phenomenon forever. If it wasn't
for the MP, not the MP but the Ri a. Suing left and right and
losing every time suing over MPs resolve these are real deal. You
can't do it, are you? And people say I didn't know you could get
music for free. Hey,
wait, I didn't know you. Stuff that Napster thing.
And it sounds pretty good. This music. This is the problem with
this with this approach to propagandising the public. It
fires
and I will tell you and and yeah, so even though it's kind
of interesting, because there was another person added to the
mix, which may have influenced everything by the way. Nice Guy
Peter. He came stag and he actually is a consultant for big
data. Kids you not for Goldman Sachs. Wow. And he wasn't taking
the bait, but you know what I learned a lot. So and I think
Laurie at one point said just so you know, everything you say
here can be used on the show, like Okay, so, and I quite
honestly, I don't want to I don't want to be like some kind
of rodeo clown that shows up. And yeah,
here he comes.
Let's tell him some cookies, roll balloons, water balloons.
So what actually happened, it's very interesting mix and
actually Mollywood landed like, like eight o'clock and she came
over and so it was kind of it was what it was. It was a real
Oba dinner. No doubt about it. But there was no you know, the
conversations where are we in a tech bubble? We talked about
books. There was no political and there was every reason and
there was alcohol involved. So you know people can easily they
shouldn't be slipping up and I was nudging here and there just
a little bit. We just had the tech the Texas A supreme court
overturn, you know the objections against the abortion
law. Right. Yeah, the whole smear. Yeah. So there was a
whole bunch of stuff to go. And it just didn't happen, John.
Now, of course,
you don't blame yourself, because you may be as somebody
wrote into me, and I'll reveal this. I mean, I don't know if
you got a copy this letter says, I think Adam has become a
stooge. For the old bots. He's been going to too many dinners.
Starting to get influenced, you can hear it into some of his
analysis. Oh, he's been corrupted by the obat group that
he keeps hanging out on.
Hold on a sec. Is this from Brian?
I don't remember who it was. This was a couple of weeks ago,
because he
let me let me give you this because someone said that we
were both corrupted. Have you been compromised? This question
is similar to have you stopped beating your wife in that there
is no good answer. But after I listened to Thursday show, I
feel like I have to ask for months, I've listened to you
guys rail against the NSA, Keyser, Alexander, domestic
spying, so on and so forth. Now all of a sudden, you're flipping
the script, and saying that it's the CIA. And Alexander's just
there, bitch. Did the NSA, did the NSA get to you? Do they have
a record of your Silk Road purchases and holding it over
your head? What's their leverage curry? I didn't expect a direct
response or anything, but I think it will be worth a minute
or two of Sunday show to reassure your faithful
listeners. But then again, like I said, there's no good answer
to the question. After all, a denial is exactly what someone
who was compromised would offer, right?
No, this is not that guy. Okay. All right. It's not that guy.
But he makes the point. But you know,
Mickey is my witness. And you know, and you know that, that
she would not mess around. It just didn't really happen. And I
think it's good. What They drugged the food. What did
happen is I had, I pretty much just sat next to the professor
and picked his brain for three years was to ask him some
specific questions. Yes. So first of all, Lumosity. The
Bogota. I saw a radio ad for that the other day, you saw the
radio ad? My god, you're good. It's amazing. Yep. So we talked
about Lumosity. First of all, he had heard us talk about neuro
elasticity, which is in the Lumosity advertising. You said
that is crap. Neuroplasticity is a real word neuro elasticity
says made up totally made up. Okay. And, and so I said, Okay,
well can this and then he said, This is not neuroscience, this
these brain games are psychology. I thought that was
good. Nice. And so the question, of course, was, if you do these
puzzles, does it really make you smarter is kind of the claim is,
and he did not dismiss it immediately. He said, Well,
anything you do, and like we had suggested read a book just as
valid. But yeah, if you really want to, to sharpen up your
brain to train your brain to exercise your brain. He says,
the best thing you can do is go for a walk. He says physical
exercise, jogging, that really does it. Because everything else
is Yeah, may be valid, maybe not depends on the test, whatever.
But physical exercise is always going to be the absolute best.
And then I learned something that you and I may want to, to
look at, as a business. There is quite a business to be to be
made, I think, in managing hotshot professors. These guys
are like basketball stars. They get offers from all over the
country from schools and they're flying them out throwing hookers
Anam, you know, it's like, first class hotels, come look at our
come look at our facility. And these guys have no idea how to
do it. They're like, okay, they have no idea how to manage their
own careers. And so is there is there like an agency for
professors? And no, not that I know of? Too far. We'll do it.
We'll actually what you will, well, yeah, you could probably
do a management group that would would handle this, it'd be the
same as the sports management. Exactly, exactly. More so than
celebrity management, which is different than sports. First of
all, it's similar, but different.
I mean, it's really, it's at the end of the day, it's down the
negotiating, you know, the package, it's the salary, it's
the resources, you know, it's a whole bunch of stuff. And what I
see a lot of these guys doing now that I've heard some of the
stories is, you know, they get invited to go out, they get
wined and dined. And I'm like, You know, you're not going
anywhere anymore this is it done, you're staying home, have
them call me, I'll talk to them. Instead just write down the
number that you want, we can go get that for you. I just found
it to be amazing that there's no A No, no company that does not
exactly like a sports representation like a
witness, well, you probably the thing to do is look into how
sports transitioned from what it was to what it is, with all
these agents, right? And you'd probably see the same patterns
of fractal sports is based on on you know, Hollywood celebrities
and how they're handled. And then they said, why we can do
that with these guys. Well, you could probably do with with
these superstar professors, especially nowadays, when the
universities all have this huge budgets and they're gouging the
students, multibillion dollar operations, they're bigger than
most sports franchise.
Exactly. Buy a lot and you get a name, you know, the name comes
in, it's marketed it's you know, it's a big deal. It's great for
the endowment. You know, it's great you know, these guys are
writing grants you know, you can write the grant and not not
submitted and take that part with you which could be money in
the bank. I also I also talked to the professor so you just
stop running after NIH money man go after DOD and K Ultra to come
on. Let's do some real here. There was like the whole table
bigger money. Everybody's gotta be here. But here's here's the
DoD money.
Here's the funny thing. He's on the floor. And the whole tables
like what's MK Ultra? And he's like
He knew everything. That's funny because it my experience, it's
usually the left that knows more about MK Ultra than the right
does.
The only one who knew it was the professor he's the only one that
knew about it.
Wow. Yeah, that's I consider that to be highly weird.
And then we talked about a whole bunch of stuff like Can we can
we make MRIs you know, home based MRIs? You know, this is a
tough racket, the guy's in no racket. It's a racket. I read
all those grants it's fantastic. This is why that's why I like
talking to him this good. I think he's a valuable resource
as the official brain professor of the no agenda show. He's also
a nice guy and I like having these dinners and I learned a
lot but I think as a as a as a mockery I think it may be over I
think the mockery of my friends may just not work anymore.
Yeah, probably. But yeah, that again, maybe because you've
you've gotten too too close to the source
as possible as possible it doesn't mean we're not going to
continue to do it
because of course So what So what did they serve for food
Korean
was interesting Korean
Korean is in the audience.
I don't know exactly what this was but it was or why it was
Korean. But they had like the Korean squid and which is
interesting taste the all the you know, the shrimp and some of
its rather spicy kind
of hot, a billion little little dishes of crazy thing. Yeah.
Little and then But then we all had like a big thing of beef.
Right, which I don't know if that was necessarily Korean.
Oh, no. Yeah, it is. That's that is the Korean thing. Yeah.
That was that was quite outstanding. The the I had two
pieces of the beef and then what do you call it? The creme
brulee? Homemade creme brulee?
The Korean version? Yeah. presented. Yeah. And,
and the professor. I think he brought a torch from the lab.
Mickey took a picture of it. He was like standing four feet
away. It's pretty funny.
These days to put those in a salamander to do it. Right. But
okay,
what's the sound waves? What's the sound?
It's like a boiler it says got a real high heat.
Yeah, I mean, they don't have a salamander. Yeah, I don't think
they have that. So yeah, it was great. Dinner was great. And
everything was great. And, you know, there there it was great.
It's just no I'm sorry. No mockery is just there's not
going to happen.
Yeah, okay. Well, that's where it goes. It's another instalment
Oh.
And let me say to you, John C. Dvorak in the morning. Yeah. In
the
morning to you to Adam curry sellout. boots on the ground
feet in the air subs in the water and all the dates and
nights call me a sellout. Really? Wow. Okay, now all
right, fine. Just because I can't make it up. I can't I
can't make up stuff. As harsh Oh, in the morning, everyone
there in the chat room. No agenda stream.com no agenda
chat.net. And in the morning to our artists apologies to nick
the rat omitted thanking him for the artwork on episode 560 and
And then we had Josh Pettigrew who did the artwork for 561 now
always curious to see what shows up at no agenda art
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get your entries in as soon as possible. This is a value for
value programme list is going to be short today. But we do have I
think, two executive producers and an Associate Executive
Producer just like Hollywood, they are the ones that are get
the credits right up front for producing the programme by
supporting it in well financially but more ways than
one off and who do we have John?
We don't have much we do have by the way a couple of things on
the side that I wanted to mention Tim Shannon one of our
contributors says he's just came with his note I thought was good
probably the only producer to be sacked while listening to no
agenda 328 listening on the stream when the man woman but
looks like a dude taps me on the shoulder fired
Yeah, that's that's pretty messed up man.
And he requests a Dr. Kiki karma if you can
tell he was listening fired. He was listening to the show. Maybe
work? Yeah, maybe you should pay attention to driving the bus
instead of listening to the show that no wonder you got fired up
already. Is your karma bad karma? I'm sure you'll land on
your feet. Yeah, you'll
bounce back. So keep listening to the show. Robert Alter came
in we have two executive producers and one lone Associate
Executive While Robert Alter 333 33 in the morning and been
working in Paris for the last few months. It needs some karma
to help make this project ends smoothly.
No absolutely smooth ending karma for you, Robert. You've
got karma in gay Perry.
And Elkins West Virginia. So random hillbilly came with some
money so Miss Mickey can get her massage this month. Now Adam to
suck it up. Not quite
sure what that was. I don't know. But I will.
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before we move on, John has a couple of things. It's the start
of a new month. It was also here in the United States of Gitmo
made Gitmo nation the the entrance of daylight savings
time the clocks fill back one hour and I'm always complaining
about this in Arizona and Hawaii. And I think Utah also
does not Arizona.
I didn't know about Utah but Arizona for sure.
And for I decided because I'm always very sceptical and I'm
you know, I had this like, it was for farmers, Benjamin
Franklin came up with it, it saves electricity and saves
lives, whatever. I've always been quite certain that the
whoever's New World Order entities are behind this.
They're making a bungle on it. And we're just stupid. And I
think my main thinking has always been it's just pure slave
training. Let's just see what we can make them do, like deal. But
I looked at all the all the different legislation that has
dealt with this as recent as 2007. Actually, when we had the
the Energy Policy Act, when this really didn't have that much to
do with policy. I think I've discovered what it really is
about because there's one term that keeps coming back, starting
with the uniform Time Act of 1966, which is really when we
codified the daylight savings time, the original Daylight
Savings Time and the timezone and
that's not the original know, that.
Listen to me. The uniform Time Act of 1966 included the
codification of the time zones that we have in the United
States into our into our law books. And I have the term that
really He makes the most sense for daylight savings time and
why time zones are in place in the United States. And it is the
term is convenience of commerce. And I think that makes the most
sense. As the reason why we have this is to make sure people shop
more
well, it was it goes back so far though that I think there's a
good theory.
But it's not a theory. It's they write it in the law. It's yeah.
But they were pushing this back for farmers. Well, here's, let
me just go with I know, I know that in the 20s. It was a big
deal was first invented. I'm looking at the wiki page now.
And at 95. It came round. That was fine. It was a huge I have a
bunch of clips, I don't have mine that I'll bring them out
from their old clips from from the mid 30s. Where were
Hollywood was irked about this because Daylight Savings Time
was going to screw up movie show times. Right? So they had all
these Hollywood characters coming out saying how terrible
the idea was. And then their argument became well, it was
this always baffled me because it makes zero sense. It's for
the farmers so they can get they don't have to get up as the
farmers can get up at any time doesn't make it there shouldn't
even be a clock they just get up and do whatever they do and
they're done. Yeah, it's like the bitching about the
breadmakers oh they should be getting up at five now for they
just what they do. Yeah, so the the shopping thing is probably
the only thing that kind of makes sense makes sense. Because
it's like it's still daylight I know it when you're up in
Washington state during the summer it's kind of interesting
because the sun doesn't really set and I was in Iceland where
the sun never set in a summer you're up there and it's like
1030 when it finally sets and you go oh we they dinner yet
we're out you're out all that when it's sunny you just not in
eating dinners and then you say oh my god is almost midnight we
haven't eaten yet exactly. It's very strange phenomenon but it
has to do with the daylight usable daylight hours and I
think they try to make it so when you get up it's that you're
starting to deal with usable daylight hours because so the
that shifts just enough that I guess they could change the time
and make it make people shop more a ball
of all the things you know it 1966 It came back in 96 I think
and then 2007 Because now we changed the time it was supposed
to be the like the first Sunday November then was the last
Sunday in October and which is different from Europe now we're
all screwed up but every single time says convenience of
commerce I'm like yeah well that that that actually I'll buy that
it makes that it's to get people to shop longer and you know say
that that could be billions of dollars it could be a lot of
money.
It would be billions of dollars
okay a couple of things
a shopping an hour more than billions we need
to say in the morning to all of the boys at at in the boneyard
that's Palm Springs pride is today I was like all the all the
senior citizen gay guys they call themselves The Boneyard.
The belief believer that the gays that live in Palm Springs
the old guys yeah, they call it this. They say the Palm Springs
pride is the Boneyard.
Have you ever been to Palm Springs? Yeah.
Yeah, not on not on not on Pride Day.
You know, they had a pray. Yeah.
And then we have a just a slew of presidential proclamations.
This is the month John we picked a month to celebrate. Let's see
we got all by presidential proclamation. Everyone just used
to be simple. It was like American History Month or fire
prevention month Smokey the Bear says you know remember that was
easy.
No, it was usually a month it wasn't 20 things a month.
It is National Diabetes month. It is
we already had National Diabetes week. The end well this is the
month.
It is national entrepreneurship month. It is National Military
Family month. And it is National Native American Heritage Month.
Go Redskins. It is National Adoption Month
so how come the Redskins are like under this attack? So the
Cleveland Indians for some reason but the Redskins right
now is that the focus of attention when you have the num
one of the top football teams in the country. This the Florida
State Seminoles oh please John is just culturally out some guy
in Indian guy comes running out on a horse and stabs this field
with this spear.
It's cultural. It's Cultural Marxism ignore just just ignore
all that and It's easy because it was also National Alzheimer's
Disease Awareness Month. We forgive you if you forgot about
it. It is National Family Caregivers month. But then
here's the one that I liked the most, which coincided nicely
with the movie on the Nat Geo channel. And with a brand new
executive order. It is national critical infrastructure security
and resilience month.
Brother, why do you even bother with this segment of the show is
borders on crazy? This is
very important. Now, first of all, if the President is going
to proclaim something, and no one is going to report on it,
why don't we at least look at it? And this is and this is not
by accident that it is
funny that the movie appeared in the same period of time. Yes.
Did you see the movie by the way?
I did. And I can tell you the movie was a piece of crap. Yes,
the movie blackout and the only reason for it was to promote
Doomsday Preppers for sweeps week, okay, right. That's all
they did. They actually had little little Chiron, during the
movies had like, there are 3 million preppers in America. It
was like it was so blatantly obvious. It was disgusting. Now,
this presidential proclamation of critical infrastructure
security and resilience month does not come without reason.
The President released an executive order a very long and
detailed one, called Preparing the United States for the impact
of climate change. Oh, and and this is a very, very detailed,
very broad reaching, I would say, Executive Order, which is
law when the President does this. And I'll just read you a
little bit of section one policy, the impacts of climate
change, including an increase in prolonged periods of excessively
high temperatures, more heavy downpours, increase in
wildfires, more severe droughts, hurt permafrost thawing, ocean
acidification and sea level rise are already affecting
communities, natural resources, ecosystems, economies and public
health across the nation. And then the President goes into
essentially giving every single agency in these United States
power to do anything to halt this now. What is interesting is
that in this executive order, he refers to presidential policy
directive 21. And this is where your month comes into play. Of
course, of course, we have Presidential Policy Directive
21, which is critical infrastructure security and
resilience. Okay. How coincidental is that, and this
is all about cybersecurity. So yeah,
that's what would you say, this is what we should be going into
this where the big dough is going to be blown. I mean, we,
the government's got all this money that they collect, and
they got to spend it on stuff by scaring the public into thinking
they need these things. And this cybersecurity thing is going to
be a huge bonanza for anyone who can figure out I mean, if you
got guys, these ex CIA guys, what's his name, I can't
remember his name. But you've seen a million times, and all
these other characters who know nothing about computers. I would
put probably Alexander into that category. And all they do is
talk about the cybersecurity threat and how we got to spend
$400 billion to protect the networks. This means just this
is just money.
The Department of Justice, including the Federal Bureau of
Investigation, shall lead counterterrorism and
counterintelligence investigations and related law
enforcement activities across the critical infrastructure
sectors, which includes telecommunications, department
of justice shall investigate, disrupt, prosecute and otherwise
reduce foreign intelligent terrorist and other threats to
and actual or attempted attacks on or sabotage of the nation's
critical infrastructure. The FBI also conducts domestic
collection, analysis and dissemination of cyber threat
information and shall be responsible for the operation of
the National Cyber investigative Joint Task Force. The NCI JTF
serves as a multi agency national focal point for
coordinating integrating and sharing pertinent information
related to cyber threat investigations and
representation from DHS, the intelligence community,
Department of Defence and other agencies as appropriate. FBI is
now basically given full rein to spy on American citizens in the
name of critical infrastructure security and resilience under
the preparation for impacts of climate change.
It's crazy, it makes nothing but sense that's
really what's happening. And I was and then to celebrate this
wonderful operation with critical infrastructure security
and resilience month, is just throwing it in our face icing on
the cake. So while we're all preoccupied with the NSA,
or lax,
or lax for that case, and by the way, I was quite happy that we
had at least a change of some sort.
And when I was thinking the same thing, it was really getting the
show and especially I liked the last show, I think it was
reflected in our donations. We didn't amount of really cool
things we had to talk about and deconstruct is really kept being
the same thing. Who needs his NSA. You know, I admire Glenn
Greenwald, in this regard. He knows how to dole it out. You
know, he's starting to forget about here's another little one,
you started to forget about it. Here's another little one, which
drives the apparently the intelligence community crazy.
Well, no, it was all dumped at once. It drives forgotten by
drives the NSA crazy. Yeah,
device. Yeah. Right. The CIA is probably behind it. They
probably did a study saying, Look, well, this is the way you
do it. Don't do that. Don't No, no, no, don't bring this all out
at once. No, no, no, you idiot.
It's funny, because the New York Times came out, I think it was
either this morning, or last night with a very detailed,
huge, wham Allameh, ding dong doozy of an article. Let me just
see what it was called here. It was just like, whoa, this was
the big one. And it includes so much about the NSA specifically,
but even admits in the article. Well, there's stuff that that we
have in the documents that we we agreed with the NSA and the end,
though, and the administration not to publish because that's
what they do. They everything is already known. But all of a
sudden, it dawned on me because something there's a little a
little bit, a little small thing that changed. And unfortunately,
it happened at the Council on Foreign Relations. And I could
not find video or audio of it. I do have the transcript. Keyser
Alexander was at the Council on Foreign Relations. I guess the
guy you know, it just likes is glutton for punishment or
something? And Democrats, state senator of Maryland, press
Alexander play
stop a second. So yeah, there's a glut. And why is this guy who
used to be unknown to everybody? Because the NSA was a super
secretly, why is this guy. I saw him twice this week, once he was
speaking in front of some group that said Symantec had behind
him. And then he was with some other group, you know, talking
and then he's in front of Congress, this guy, this guy is
hardly much of you reminds me of these mafia guys, who all of a
sudden decided to be highly public.
Well, remember, he's leaving. So now he needs he's going to cash
in on his on his political account. Yeah, right. Yeah,
to get a rep for himself. So and get a couple of those board
seats on General Electric. You can almost predict the company.
It's like,
Well, how about semantic.
Okay, the one he'll be on semantic you'll be on General
Electric he'll be. Let's see, what are the IBM probably gotta
be on IBM.
I know, he's probably talking to Mike Morello, the CIA as well,
who all of a sudden comes out. This is
maybe, maybe Apple because Apple sold out. It'd be good. Yeah,
good. Well, anyway, let me let me just tell you what, what
happened there because I I, all of a sudden, I'm like, Oh, hold
on a second. There's another little edge to this, and an
email you sent me ties into this. So this Democratic State
Senator, I'm going to quote from the article, press Alexandria to
give a national security justification for the agency's
use of surveillance tools intended for combating terrorism
against democratically elected leaders and private businesses.
So it's no longer about citizens like us. We all joke that
everyone is spying on everyone, Alexander said, but that is not
a national security justification. Alexander
replied, here's a reply. That's a great question, which is not a
course. In fact, as an ambassador, you have part of the
answer, because we the intelligence agencies, don't
come up with the requirements. The policy makers come up with
the requirements. One of those groups would have been let me
think Hold on. Oh, yeah. Ambassadors. So not so now. He's
slamming the State Department. And if you'll recall, there was
a WikiLeaks cable, where Hillary Clinton was ordering diplomats
to spy on UN leaders. And I think Think, particularly if you
take all of this into account that the State Department bus
beside the CIA, the State Department may have a hand in
deflecting anything away from Hillary's spying initiatives to
put it all onto the NSA because Hillary's gonna make a run. And
we need to start running interference now and putting the
blame squarely on other people. And I think if you look at the
closeness between State Department and CIA, it makes a
lot of sense. Those two are playing together.
There are some other documents that kind of pushed this theory.
Yeah, could be.
There's, and this, of course, comes down to, we've got I like
this. I like that. We got to keep the Hillary angle going.
Because Hillary is still working. She's working it she's
got her face.
She did you see that? She, the reporters, she made $400,000 And
speaking fees from Goldman Sachs, already,
by the way to speak to two speeches. That's getting a
couple of things straight about this. This is essentially a way
of bribing somebody. Yes. So what you do you get somebody out
of office? It's not it's not the same with a retired president.
But it's kind of his said with the retired president. You do
these high, you know, million dollar speaking in great
engagements, because you had promised them you know, you
couldn't do anything when they were in office. You just said
don't worry, we'll make it up to you. And so when you so you do
them the bidding, you're the president, you this country's
been this way forever, by the way, you do the bidding of this
operator, the Saudis or whoever it is that you're in bed with?
And you don't you know, is no, necessarily a paper trail is up
for millions of $5 donations. Good get anonymized. So after
you're out, which is always a big fear about the Clinton
Library is that then all of a sudden, you get $10 million gift
to the Clinton Library and you get another 20 million, you get
another 50 million. And so now Hillary is essentially getting
paid in advance because she's not in office. So this is not
corrupt. No, but she's getting paid in advance by Goldman
Sachs, because her speaking fee is $200,000. Really,
Hillary? According to The New York Times, Hillary Clinton
spoke at two separate Goldman Sachs events on the evenings of
Thursday, October 24. And Tuesday, October 29. Clinton's
fee is approximately $200,000 per speech. New York Times says,
yeah, it's called the fee schedule. Yeah, in case it's not
a speaking fee. It says fee schedules. Like here's what I
want from your district. Reminds me of another interesting scam.
The people always talk about this all these Japanese golf
clubs. You know, if you join a Giant Country Club in Japan, it
costs you like $100,000 A year and $10,000 a month. That's not
That's not what this is all about. Because they tried to
pull the scam by the Japanese operation wanted to buy the
Pebble Beach in Monterrey. And it started to come out what was
really going on the Yakuza. Yeah, trying these things, and
what happens you offend a Yakuza boss, and then they say, okay,
we can kill you. But instead, we want you to join the country
club. And so you become a member of this with essentially a
Yakuza front, and you're essentially giving them
$100,000. That's just like, kill you. This is extortion. Right.
And essentially what Hillary's doing is extorting her fee of
two what you want if I become president, who knows what can
happen? I think you guys owe me a couple of speeches.
And by the way, I think he will be much more I think that's
cheap. For where she knows her worth. No, another person we
could manage. Hillary, by the way is
over. Yeah. Well, she's, uh, she's poorly managed. We know
that because of the first one. She ran against Obama. Yeah, she
just had a bunch of these psycho fans that were useless. And they
lost the election. I was an amateur.
Let me let me Oh, my God. Did you hear about this new book?
No, oh, wow.
Hold on a second. It's called double down. And I have it here.
It's not out yet. But the pre promotion is just fantastic. in
it. The claim is that Obama is talking about how good he is at
killing people with drones. I love that. It's like, you can't
read it. You can't wait to read that book. Here's the Bill Maher
show he had Rob Ryan director Rob Reiner.
I'm a huge fan of Hillary Clinton's of a friend of Hillary
Clinton's. I don't know what she's gonna do. I don't know
what she's our plans are but if she decides to run, you will
have the single most qualified person ever to run for President
United States.
And let me say, a single Wait, hold
on a second. Let's just sit on that for a second. The single
most qualified person to have ever, ever run around he
didn't say that. No, he didn't say that. No, he didn't say
that. He didn't say that.
I'm a huge fan of Hillary Clinton's of a friend of Hillary
Clinton's. I don't know what she's gonna do. I don't know
what she's our plans are but if she decides to run, you will
have the single most qualified person ever to run
ever president. Right? He said ever. Yeah, that's bullcrap. But
right now, you really right now as it stands, I think she's the
single most qualified person to run for Pratt to be president.
Absolutely. Absolutely. I
J Dugway. He said if she's ever mollify than George Washington
that's bull crap now but if you look at if you look at the lay
of the land you know you know my stance on her you know I wanted
to be president you know why to
Yeah, because you have a death wish ah oh let's listen to Obama
likes using drones. That is the land of unconfirmed Yes, we came
we saw a die that's right. Always a winner Yeah, it is.
No, I think if you take our country for what it is and what
we really do as a as a political imperialist capitalist bully xi,
there is no better and whereas the Democrats at the election of
Obama were everyone was so all in and crying and happy and
hands across the border and the races and and we all love each
other. It's gonna be great. And we can overcome and we were all
crying as yet we forget that. Yes. No. And, and it was a great
vibe. It was a great moment for the country, unfortunately. But
those of us who looked into the background of of Obama knew that
there was not a lot of substance there a one time Senator rammed
right through Oops, here he is. What, but you take Hillary
Clinton, who any political leader knows will kill you for
just looking at her the wrong way. Google Clinton body count.
She takes no prisoners. She this woman will kill you. She will
she is connected to all of the the military industrial complex
to the oil Cabal. She is fantastic. And she's a woman so
we can all feel great about what is it now what is the mean
shattering the ceiling is that what she's going to do that is
going to be entering so it's going to shatter the glass
ceiling. And it could turn us around. I'm not saying this is
the way it should be. I would prefer unicorns and rainbows and
everyone loving and you know, we are the world and all that crap.
But who else John Duffy not have everything. We need to get back
on top and scare the bejesus out of the rest of the world. She's
a Republican.
Well build was a Republican the way I see. Well, it's actually
what these people represent is what's what's Politico's like to
call Neo liberals. And they do have a tendency toward the New
World Order is very much in line with the George Bush one. And
they tend to be sociopaths. I think there's more than a few
times that Bill Clinton is definitely one. But if you look
at her, she's got to be one too.
Really think and by the way, whom I will look great in the in
the White House.
Well, you know, don't forget, we have it on the books before the
election if she's actually running and she will be because
all I know is every day I get Oh, that's too soon. Bull crap.
They got this ready for Hillary campaign, which is wearing thin.
Yeah, you know, they asked him for the $5 and the $3 and all
the rest of it. And I get the mailing from him. And it's like,
Oh, we did this and we did that we're great. And Hillary's got
to do it. We're gonna do everything we can to get her to
run like she's not going to run. But it'll be interesting. I
think it's I mean, can you think of any rather not to have her as
President I just
know I of course John I'm I'm I love the world. I love people.
Of course I want to be but where are we if we've been doing this
long enough, and you see really what's going on and just look at
the United States of Europe and just look at no one cares about
their citizens. So
let's go over a couple of things. Berkeley. Okay. One is
your assertion when you did the hot pockets 2000 to two or
whatever year that phoney year was DC and you were assured by
some inside Washington insiders that Hillary could not possibly
run, she wouldn't be allowed to run because of one thing or
another. And they were they were going to scuttle her campaign if
she attempted to run.
Well, it was that it was the Secret Service. And if you have
not followed the news, we've had a couple of arrests. We've had a
couple of dismissals. And we've had a couple of suicides. See,
Secret Service has been cleaned up. We just had a suicide just
like last week of a secret service guy. Oh, no. So
you think the Clinton the Clinton clicker? Clicker is back
in action. Somebody's got their thumb on the wheel again. Click
kick never
went away. What are you talking about?
Well, I don't know. The Clinton body count things seem to have
slowed down. Oh, please.
Yeah, let me just get the Secret Service guy who committed
suicide. US Secret Service agent found dead apparent suicide
October 27 2013. Law enforcement Special Agent Rafael Prieta was
under investigation for having an unreported romantic
relationship with a foreign national. Yeah.
So he killed himself.
Yeah. Two shots to the head gun in the left hand. I'm gonna kill
myself. Yeah, so they committed suicide. We've had debt, but
remember the whole hookers in?
Oh, yeah. No, I know.
We've cleaned it extensively. you've cleaned up the Secret
Service. We've cleaned that up. This is what they're so good at
the Clintons. And but but really, come on. I mean, we have
to, we really have to be honest on this show. And this is what
America does. You know, we are the the 800 pound gorilla. And
we just have a very weak leader right now that everyone thought
was going to be the great saviour. And it didn't work out.
And I think having a woman which will 50% of the voting public
will love that. I think I can fairly say that. I don't know
many women who say they hate her and wouldn't want her.
There are some women that do that. Of course, a lot of
Hillary haters course
I can't generalise. But in general, it would be another
historic moment. It set up. She knows everyone she has the good
done, everyone. She's She. Oh, come on. She's an expert at
this. She's been doing it all her life. Who else is qualified?
Ted Cruz.
These guys, that guy's not presentable. That's the problem.
The Republican Party doesn't even exist anymore. It's blown
up. There's nothing left. No one cares. This woman is it get
ready for it. You might you might as well just prepare.
Well, I don't I'm not going to argue the point because I put it
in the book years ago that she was going to run and win after
she lost to Obama and they did the quid pro quo that got her
the Secretary of State job which is bolstered at the Vienna done
that if he had any nerve, he wouldn't have put her in.
Because that kept her in the eyes of the public long enough
to make some waves meet a few people around the world. She was
just travelling constantly just glad handing and setting up the
future. And then now she's still in the public eye just and she
should be able to coast to an easy win.
So if you take my view, which increasingly has become
an I'll be voting libertarian, once again,
I don't think I'm gonna vote at all. I'm just done. Well, you
may it's probably the right. I should why I'm just not going to
why why even bother and just sit on the sidelines and armchair
quarterback it
wasn't gonna say no. To these women who are just like Hillary,
they're just like they swooned when they talked about Hillary
Sure. The cool healer can
you deny that she would not be great if you just take into
account of what we really are as a country. We go into other
countries we take
a look at the worst side of the United States at worst possible
way of defining us Yes, she'd be fantastic. Thank you. First
Emperor bank cube Empress Empress. Yes. Cleopatra. We have
here. The homely version. By the way.
That was another irritating thing of the Obama bought
dinner.
Oh, wait a minute. What was the first irritating thing
everything was
irritating about about show prep, but I threw out the Bill
Gates as a eugenicist. Yeah. And, and it was like was it
Yeah, his dad was a huge Genesis and it was all do we had a
eugenics society and we, you know, we, and no, and everyone's
like, No. And the professor went, No, that's absolutely
true. And he was on my aside, he's like, yeah, no, no, we had
all this technology of
Wait a minute, hold on. Tell me again. I come in from my
experience as a liberal at the University of California. It's
the liberals who knew and bitched and moaned about the
eugenicist movement in the United States in the 20s, which
led to with the fascist Jews on the Jews. That's exactly what it
was, are all of our concepts and ideas, our tech are flying the
races and all the rest of these people who claim to be liberals
didn't know about this?
I don't, then no one has ever claimed they're liberal to me.
So I met them. You've met them?
Yeah, I have met them in the when the husband is who's
apparently would never sit down with a Republican. They said,
No, that's other people. That's the other robots that are not
part of the dinner group.
Okay. Well, what anyway, I sat down with this. Okay, whatever
the case was, I don't know what to look for anymore. When it
comes to old school. Liberal Democrats. I think
it's gone. I think the goods
are old hippies. And they just, hey, don't you remember when we
used to say question authority? To be a bumper sticker in
Berkeley? Yeah. QUESTION authority. Now this is whatever
Obama did, they should change it to whatever Obama says goes now.
No, I
think something's changing, man. It's changing. People, everyone
is bummed out. And we're bummed out, because we're stupid.
Where, you know, as a country, we look lame. We're not doing
anything everyone's broke. You know that now we're taking away
food stamps we're taking Yeah, we're dumbed down. We're taking
food stamp money away from the, from the 47 million people who
who are on it. One, seven. And this is all this is not good.
I don't personally get the point of that. I do have a clip that
says we're all kind of on that image. I'll just play it, which
is the food stamp clip. And I actually had to cut this way
down because it was long. It was really long. They were going
back and forth, because it was on the news hour. And it is the
clip is called roof stamps. Yeah, that must be
another John C. Dvorak clip naming
the numbers have gone up so high in terms of the number of people
and I think part of it is the economy, no one could deny that
there's serious rates of unemployment that continue,
continue. But this programme also is rife with fraud, it has
an outreach to bring people in. Another thing that they've done
is get rid of the asset limits, which were traditionally part of
this programme, you can have a million dollars in the bank,
you're unemployed, you can get into food stamps. Now that's an
outrage. We also have weaker work requirements on this
programme than we do on the programmes for single mothers
and able bodied 20 year old who who's not working isn't required
to do a single thing to get his food stamp benefits. I think
that's an abuse of the taxpayer, it's probably not good for the
recipient, either.
Okay, here's a couple of things I want to bring up here, the
Food Stamp thing. This actually goes back to Oregon, it's about
welfare, it made a little more sense, maybe in the 60s and 70s,
to go on and on about people who are able bodied and they were
getting free money. In today's market, you can't get a job. So
let's just drop that. There is no jobs out there and most of
the country so we can't say oh, he's able bodied should get a
job, get a job where he has to move to China or Indonesia to
get a job. So let's just drop that part of it. But the thing
that bugs me the most, is this rife with fraud. You run into
this would the welfare programmes of the past you run
into with food stamps rife with fraud, you run into it with
Medicare, rife with fraud? Why don't these people set up an
enforcement mechanism? It is not rocket science. Half the country
is a bunch of police anyway, that's if you want a job you get
a job as a cop. Why don't they put together some enforcement to
some some tooth tooth enforcement. So you can
investigate the fraud bust people throw them into the
prison system where they will have a job working for the
prison system Federal Prison government slave system, but
they never do that they just bitch about it. Oh, it's rife
with fraud. Well, what are you going to do about it? Why don't
you do something about the fraud instead of complaining about oh,
it's rife with fraud so let's shut it down. When it's what
kind of logic is this?
Well, the reason why I believe this is discussed this way is
because the real fraud the huge fraud, of course is people like
this people who are on the inside. People who play in the
markets have inside knowledge are part of the free money being
printed, being invested. Everyone's just it's a big, huge
bonanza. That's the real fraud. You know, and that is kind of
what the original first week of Occupy Wall Street was about
until it got hijacked for a moment. For a moment for a very,
for the first week
last night the Tea Party got hijacked. It was originally Ron
Paul
for the moment. But there was a very, very short time when I was
like, Holy crap, this is great.
Oh, damn. That's about how long ago it was.
And it was an I will remind everybody, this will be co opted
in 10 the mind and the mainstream media
refused to report on Occupy Wall Street. We've already talked on
the show for weeks until it was co opted.
No, we talked dead. I remember this because we were on the
show. And we were both befuddled. And commenting under
occupy, we were reporting on it what was going on. And we had
all kinds of clips from some obscure places, but it was there
was no mainstream. They weren't this guy was just like, some
demonstration useless. And then once it was clear, right, once
it was co opted, and they could be, you know, ridicule, and
whatever they did, I can't remember all the details now but
they were ever done. Then when the cops came in, tear gassed
them out of there and busted heads and people
by then it was it was already it was already co opted that went
so quick. The mainstream media was kept out of it specifically
and on purpose until the messaging was ready until the
unions were in and then then then was done. So there was a
moment there was a brief moment, about a couple of weeks. Yeah.
It's interesting, because we had a watermelon head, he would so
we had this big thing that the President but everyone was a
part of it. Come invest in America, it's the Open
Government. Most what does it call this, like the Open
Government, whatever. And they invite all it's kind of like a
big trade thing and invite everybody over. And all of a
sudden, it becomes very clear, what are, what the strategy is
for the United States. If you look now at the euro. Let's see
euro to dollar rate, you're gonna freak you out, by the way,
because we have about 141 39. Yeah, almost 140. Yeah,
this is nice. Keep tabs on it.
This has gone up what eight 9%? In the past month alone, maybe
it's,
you know, has it's gone up worth about a buck 15. And they have
propped it up somehow. And I don't know what I think is I
mean, it's good for our exporting, or, or or
that there is no better place in the world to invest than here in
America. And there's no better time to do it in many ways that
right now, because some of the growth and development of the
last few years is sort of equalised out in some places. So
that manufacturing, as the Secretary said, the number of
manufacturing jobs here now, going in manufacturing, again,
manufacturing, we are now China, we are cheap, cheap, cheap, we
have people who will do anything, they will. And this is
I'm convinced, and carry is so on the sales track for this,
because even back out of us being exceptional,
because it's competitive again, for a lot of different reasons.
So make no mistake, as we look ahead to the major trends that
are going to define this new age, the factors that will
determine which countries thrive as well as which businesses
thrive in this competitive marketplace. I think it's
crystal clear that the United States is going to continue
because it's the nature and base of our economy. Not because
we're somehow
you're talking over the punchline. Hola. Oh, wait.
He says, Go ahead. He said you can back it up, get the punch
line. He said that he says we're pretty sure it didn't say pretty
sure. But he says we appreciate the United States will continue
to survive. What's he talking about?
Let's listen again, that last bit there,
we'll clear that the United States is going to continue
because it's the nature and base of our economy. Not because
we're somehow superior is somehow better. And it's just
the nature of how we have grown and where we've come from, from
the Industrial Revolution all the way through the 1990s and
the tech explosion and into where we are now we will
continue to lead the world.
Yeah, so we're gonna lead the world but we're gonna lead the
world by setting up factories. And this is kind of where it
gets a little crappy because you know, factories pollute and is
and not I'm talking about smokestacks but there's all
kinds of other stuff that comes along with it. That's going to
be very problematic with what the way we've set up our EPA,
etc. But that is our future. Our future if I think our future is
manufacturing, and it will take a couple generations because we
can, the way we make stuff is not really all that great. But
honestly, I don't think we're fantastic at making stuff.
No, our products are mediocre. Yeah, they bet generally
speaking, we will We make a lot but we what are but many have a
lot of his innovative I mean are innovative, innovative,
innovative, it's very innovative. But when you really,
I mean, the Google Glass, for example, this whole is made in
China. Yeah. And by the way, Luckily somebody just got
arrested. Not arriving with Google Glasses on
a ticket, not arrested. Okay, ticket,
they should well, they got a ticket, but they shouldn't be
arrested. You shouldn't be driving around Google Glasses.
This is not good. JC pointed out he had some documentation,
discussing the I guess there's some good studies now that show
that texting while driving, or dealing with your phone at all,
and except for speaking, is more dangerous than drunk driving by
a huge factor.
I believe that I believe it for sure. You know, there's no law
in Texas against that. There's no,
you can drink drink while you're driving to you know, drink a
beer while you're driving.
There's no, there's no text and drive the driving law. Well,
there should be. Well, you know, we have pretty big roads. Pretty
long, boring. Like, yeah, whatever. And don't worry about
it. The President, of course, surprised me once again, with
this little podcast there. Hi, everybody. But
on Thursday, I addressed a conference for business leaders
from around the world. And my pitch was simple. I love that
my pitch was simple. Your sales guy is good. And talking to Vc,
I guess I don't know.
Choose America. Invest in America. Create jobs in America.
It speaks to my top priority as President.
Oh, we know what the top priority is, don't we? Yeah,
it's protecting the American people
growing our economy, creating good jobs, strengthening
security and opportunity keeps
changing. It was supposed to be protecting the American people.
Well, he changed
it. He doesn't think it's important anymore.
Oh, that's very disappointing.
All right. Well, I guess that put a go. Just putting Obama on
just kills the show.
It's not it's not meant to kill the show. It's just when I look
at where we are in the situation. Let's just take away
all the lies, the lies that you know, well, the unemployment is
like 7%, or whatever that lie is taken care of. We know it's a
quarter of the workforce is unemployed. If we look at where
we can go, do you see any other solution? Other than becoming a
manufacturing nation? of labourers? No, do you see any
other any other way out? And that's why I don't think it's
bad necessarily. I mean, we all want to be super smart and send
your kid to college and become a lawyer but we just don't need
them anymore. We need workers we need people blue collar blue
collar stuff. I know it doesn't fit with the narrative of, of
the extraordinary American people, but that will get us out
of whatever and
no won't. That's bullcrap. The whole thing is a scam. These
guys still get cheaper labour elsewhere. I mean, right now,
Indonesia, apparently is the cheapest place and it's like
these, these international companies are so big. And you
know, their heavy foot into oh, let's just move all this. They
can move their whole facility. They got bean counters, they got
spreadsheets Sprite with my wife would always say spreadsheets
have ruined the world. You put this spreadsheet together and
you push a button and it says, oh, yeah, it's going to cost you
$2 billion to move everything to Indonesia. But the according to
this calculation, it will pay for itself in one and a half
years. So all everything gets moved. I mean, it's all
spreadsheets, which normally no one would have taken these
chances unless they can't put it down on paper. That's how high
tech works. High tech guy comes in. And he's got a new, you
know, a new chip a new piece of software. He's got some bullcrap
widget, he says to the goes into the CEO, you and he says, Look,
here's the thing we got this replaces all these other things
you have, and look, what you pay for this to replace, all the
other stuff will pay for itself 10 times over within a year,
you'll be making that much more money, you're crazy not to buy
it. And you'll look at the numbers and it's true. So you
buy it. And this is the witnesses of the sales, the new
sales pitch and so it gets a pay for itself fast enough. I did a
story once had for Forbes on the emerging led markets. And this
guy who's a big led guy one of the big companies he says well
yeah, we're getting to the point where it LEDs are gonna be
cheaper than fluorescent and everyone's gonna have to replace
everything all the incandescent and fluorescent with LEDs. He
says when I said why don't why don't all the stop signs and all
the municipalities do that. He says, Well, right now, it's a
two is like a two year payout before the LEDs will pay for
themselves and then start having benefits and he says most
municipal elections or about two years so unless you can make the
money within the election cycle so the guy reelected Yeah, why
bother? They will buy
in right? It's so true though. And I love looking at the light
bulbs. Guaranteed 1000 hours.
Bull crap.
No, but that's those little compact fluorescents no just
light bulb not talking about.
Oh yeah, no light bulbs are but compact fluorescent.
Easy, easy. I'm talking about the bullshit. Planned
obsolescence. Well, yeah, no, they're plant Yeah, light bulbs.
They literally I have six light bulbs in the kitchen. They all
go out within a day of each other. Yeah, it's completely
programmed and planned and you know Yeah, it's moving to LED
even in the home. It's a little investment but it makes a lot of
sense.
Eventually Yeah, because you don't have but the fluorescent
this the stop gap, these fluorescence these things are a
total scam rip off. Yeah, they don't last as long as they do.
Or they say they do. And actually after they're lit for a
while they started getting dull. You know, they don't give off
they have a little moment like a week where they give off the
claim lumens and then all of a sudden they start getting this
terrible.
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That was a short donation segment. That's
all that it is. I heard something funny that someone
pointed out to me one of our you know, this is again, one of
these things where if you're watching, you don't hear it. But
if you just listen, then you hear it. And he actually sent
this to me. And I'm like, What are you talking about? You know,
I'm always joking about Angela Merkel being a dude.
Well, you know, she has the facial features of a guy,
Bob Woodward, famous journalist agrees with me kill this
person, because we think he might be a terrorist or I mean,
in some cases, they have the signature strikes. Well, it
looks like terrorists that are doing things like terrorists do.
So let's kill them. Or let's get Chancellor Merkel's our
conversations on the cell phone now. What's what's interested
you hear it on his cell phone? Love that. Good old Bob. I have
a clip on signature strikes. That was kind of interesting
that he'd mentioned it.
The reason? I got signature strikes Redux.
Yeah, that must be
what we saw was a segment about something called signature
strikes. What they are literally are guesses about what people
are doing based on their behaviour, not who they are, not
what they've done. Not that we have any information about them.
So literally some bureaucrat someplace is guessing that they
might one day possibly do bad things, and people have been
killed. This was the leadership of that community. 45 people
decimated, again, based on no hard information, no judge, no
jury, no trial, even if people are in favour of drone strikes.
signature strikes are beyond outrageous. And there can be
legislative solutions to that. And I hope there will be,
of course, the signature strikes also created direct line to the
president, don't they in terms of his having to approve that?
Well, the
President approves the so called kill list, which the individuals
with the signature strikes which supposedly they're moving away
from, it's not really clear who approves or decides that what we
understand is it's the CIA who now believes they are so wise
they can see 1000s of miles away people sitting in In a circle
with guns, oh yes, they must be bad guys. Let's kill
that's your CIA. That's the guys you don't talk about. That's the
guys we don't talk about CIA killing people. signature
strikes surgical,
apparently wiped out some village elders and some 40.
That's what the 45 dead? Yeah, there's some big meeting they're
having, you know, it's like the town hall meeting in Vermont,
and they're all standing around bitching about whatever and they
boomed is kill all 45 of them one signature strike. Yeah, so
that seems to be annoying a lot of people.
The little bit of development around as a new player who's an
old player in the Snowden thing. Let me just see, I had a number
of toe actually, we need we do need to talk about what to do,
we do need to go back for a second because there's two
pieces of legislation. Now, and one has already passed to the
committee. This is the Feinstein legislation and I have both of
them marked up in the show notes 562 dot any show notes.com I am
not going to it is impossible, actually, for me to analyse the
these on the show. Because what the what the Feinstein stuff
does, and also the USA Freedom Act, which is entered by Leahy
amongst others really refer to all this other legislation. And
it's really doing nothing more than solidifying what is already
there. But just putting a couple of parameters around it. And in
Feinstein's case, is really to make sure that she's told of
everything, so that if they have the goods on her, I guess she
can, she can interject. And that is seen by most as really just a
codifying what is already being done. And again, it's only about
the NSA, it's not about the CIA, or about the FBI, or the
National Reconnaissance Office or any of that. It's only about
the NSA. Which makes sense. Because as I said, at least from
my perspective, where the NSA is just a big data suck up storage
situation, we just want to know who's rich and that literally,
if you look at the legislation, it's about who's retrieving the
information who can request information, who can request a
search, what the parameters of the search are, it's just the
the policymakers and the people who also can be spied on have
control over that situation. Then we have that's already
passed to the House Intelligence Committee. That's probably
what's going to pass then we have this USA Freedom Act, which
has been endorsed by the by Silicon Valley. And they sent a
letter I don't know if you saw this, this letter, John, it's
AOL. Apple, Facebook, Google, Microsoft and Yahoo. And they
sent this open letter to Leahy, Lee, coin, Conyers and
Sensenbrenner who were all sponsors of the USA Freedom Act.
And I'll just say this is this is what why they are coast are
supporting this USA Freedom Act. Our companies have consistently
made clear that we only respond to legal demands for customer
and user information that are targeted and specific. allowing
companies to be transparent about the number and nature of
requests will help the public better understand the facts
about the government's authority to compel technology companies
to disclose user data, and how technology companies respond to
targeted legal demands we receive transparency and in this
regard will also help to counter erroneous reports that we permit
illegal agencies quote, direct access to our company servers.
This is interesting, interesting to me that these companies are
sponsoring this bill and this this USA Freedom Act actually
stands for. I have it here it stands for it's kind of a funny,
funny name. Where the hell is it? Unless the FISA improvements
I'm sorry, I'll get it in a second. It's it's really Leahy
who was one of the one of the authors of the Patriot Act. He
was pissed about a signing statement that took place about
section 106 A or something wasn't to 15 No, no, no, no. of
the Patriot Act. Okay. I'm sorry. Yeah, not fine. So the
Patriot Act has 106 A which is about who can access certain
information. It's really it's it's his way of getting back at
the signing statement that came out with with the Patriot Act.
But what's sad about it is it really is more of the same is
just saying, okay, we can spy on people and will and will allow
and what do you call it? What's the legal term for it and amicus
curiae A, is that how you pronounce said,
See you are i a i don't know how to pronounce it,
which is basically an independent party to, you know,
to oversee the spying operation.
And it may have been 215. Because 215 does refer to the
Patriot get 702 That refers to face and none,
I find it right here. It's 106 a hold on, I got it here, John, I
went through this all last night, it's just not all that
interesting, because it really just, he has a hard on about
something that, that he got screwed on in his in his initial
legislation, or whatever it is, it's kind of a get back at what,
at the Republicans thing or something, it's really a little
weak. But what you're seeing is that the technology companies,
and they're kind of getting a free ride. Because, yeah,
there's all this collection. But all of both of these bills are
really about under which circumstances the government can
go to these very companies who sent the letter and get your
shit. That's really what it's what this is about, and that
they can do this with, you know, clean, clean hands, you know, a
pure heart, because, you know, it's legal under the law. But
this really leaves the door wide open to just leave these
companies. Because that is it mean, you don't even have to do
anything special to circumvent what the what the government is
doing anymore? Just don't use Gmail. Just don't use Yahoo.
Just don't, you know, you just don't need to use it anymore. If
you're if you really care, certainly don't use Facebook.
That's all you have to do. Because if you do you you
essentially are buying into the system that has now been
codified to specifically allow these companies to hand over
your information to the government under, you know, the
typical laws if someone could be killed. It's not even terrorism
anymore. If so, if someone's in danger of death, they can hand
over your information if these if these if either of these acts
pass
if someone's not paying their taxes.
Um, know that no, unless you
get it fixed that
unless you can somehow relate that to death. I mean, it's it's
very simple queries, like what selectors can be used, and it's
national security. It's easy, you know, national security, you
can you can put that in however you want it. They're trying to
bring in the Civil Liberties Oversight Board. They've they've
changed some things like they want to now have the audit for I
remember the the immunity the telcos got for, yes. So they
want
Yes, as an eight, I believe,
up until 2007. Seven, so they want to remove that and include
2010 through 2013. So there's a mute extra immunity stuff in
here. It's all it's really it is for the Silicon Valley companies
this this USA Freedom Act, to give them free rein to just
under the right circumstances to hand over your stuff to the
government. And, and people just seem to be okay with that. And I
don't understand why we're allowing this why we're allowing
ourselves to be trapped like this. It's not necessary
anymore, is it?
Well, what you're saying, when you say trapped, you're what
you're saying is that we don't need Microsoft anymore. Really,
we don't really need Yahoo for sure. So that's what I'm saying.
You might be in a sewing club, you know, and then you want to
meet with Yahoo groups, and discuss knitting techniques. Do
that. But
the only the only thing that these, this is a much broader
conversation, of course, but the only thing these companies do
was connect people and try to make money off of it by by
making the connection but then anything else you do that just
that just using you to make money was really your product.
Yeah, I mean, we have like, we have a chat room, you know, and
so people can come in here and connect it, there's no one's
making money off of that. It's a non money making operation. It's
open 24 hours a day, you can go in and connect, and then you can
talk on email or whatever, you don't really need these
companies. And we've been conditioned into thinking that
we need them. You don't really need Gmail, you know, 100 people
can surely share one email server that will work and you're
gonna have a lot more than 100 people, Sharon's email server,
those things are low bandwidth. Sure, but
um, you understand the point that I'm making is that we don't
need these companies. And I think they're a little afraid
that one day, someone might kind of figure that out and it might
become like a thing you know, We have seen big companies go down
in the past that people thought would never go away. Even my
MySpace in recent in recent memory.
Now MySpace is still there. Yeah, but it's not what it was.
And same with Live Journal. Was it all progenitors of Facebook,
which does now?
But look at this podcast, we don't need Google.
No, we don't need anything. We don't need Google. We don't and
yeah, that's true. We don't need, you know, people have said
to us that we should be streaming over Google. What is
it called?
Hang up Hangouts,
Hangouts,
your Why would we do that?
Think about that. What is the I you know, I've never been to a
Hangout. Oh, me neither. But even understand why it's why I
guess the name maybe got an attraction to
that. Because the President does it and then the Vice President
and they get paid to do this PR. It's like Twitter. Now I read
their s one document. I've filed one myself in the in my career,
and I've taken a company public and I find it interesting to see
what they're doing. This company has no actual visibility of
being profitable. They really don't know they may not care.
But when you look at it really just purely at what it is the
concept of making money off of something that the internet
inherently can do. But just because you've created this
place where you make the connection, and you lock
everybody in and lock all development out, which is what
they've done that there's no develop, no developers can make
any more apps or anything. And so they have the audience. But
isn't it amazing that you can have 100 million people using
your product, but you can't make money? This is dumb.
Well, that's the, you know, there is a thesis in Silicon
Valley that you just get the eyeballs first, you figure out
how to make money. Second time
we've been through this, and it's called the bubble and it
will explode eventually. And then we go around and do it
again, because it just doesn't work.
Well, let's talk about that for just one quick second, because I
got an email from one of my friends who works for the New
York Times. And he says, he's freaked out because he's seen
this two or three times these bubbles. And he, like a lot of
people see that. Wow, aren't you? Isn't this just like 9099?
And I want to remind people that there's a couple of things you
should note. One is that if you think you're in a bubble, you're
not in it yet.
It's just like, is that fact is that is? Pretty much
generally speaking, when you're in a bubble when it goes, you're
no one's saying anything. It's like, oh, no, this is fine.
Maybe there'll be a bubble. It doesn't look like a bubble, or
it looks like a bubble. But they would turns out it's not a
bubble. It's always this, you know, everybody's opposite. You
know, the stock market via recommended Buy, buy buy is
always at the top. You know, all it says is Yeah, no, it's just
gone up. 10x but buy more is gonna go up another just gonna
double. I mean, everybody's, you know, just kind of when there's
kind of sceptical, you know, this could be a bubble, it's a
bubble, it's gonna pop through, we're doomed. That never happens
during that debt era, that period, because everybody's too
cautious. Right? So I think the bubble is a ways away. And I
think we're only seeing the beginning of the we haven't seen
any Korea curriculum. And you know, we don't have pets.com and
webbed van and all these things?
Well, if you look at valuations of a lot of this stuff,
everything that has.io After its name, there's, I mean, there's a
lot there is the kind of this Ponzi scheme of the angel
investors, they flip stuff as quickly as possible to VC for
like the typical, you know, a round, and then basically that
just everyone wants it, as long as you can have an Instagram
once in a while, you know, or something like that, that you
can sell to, essentially Google or Facebook, then that's it.
That I think is that kind of what everyone's after,
where everybody wants to make a billion dollars selling on
Instagram, but where's the is there
anything? Can you can you think of one, you know, products.
Let's just call it.com product that is, has any semblance of
exist,
I look at this guy, you look at these lists of these investors
as especially the angel guys in what they've invested in. There
are literally 1000 companies with kind of maybe some of them
have a half baked idea. Some of the ideas are stupid, but
they're just kind of, you know, there, there's just it just
doesn't feel like 99 to me in 99 because I was doing a silicon
spin show and I was always like, befuddled by this again, because
I have these executives at the table and we'd be talking about
what seemed like crazy talk, and you'd hear things like just the
new my favourite one was just didn't do well. You don't get it
divorce suck. It's a new economy.
Believe me, I remember those new economy thing. You don't get it.
You're dumb.
Yeah, you don't Get It was always a turn you don't get it's
a new economy, it's a new economy. And it all stores are
going to be out of business. Everything was going to be done
on the internet, we had a lot of that. And we had all these other
and then he had these crazy things like web van, which never
made any sense to me. And the newer versions of his still
don't make sense to me because it's too expensive was a wet Van
Van was home deliver your groceries. Right? So they were
startup companies would get a lot of deliveries because people
were working their butts off and they never went home. But the
web van idea was never really a really good idea. pets.com was
the worst of the group. And this was you know, you, you have
FedEx, because you're too lazy to get off your ass and get in
the car and go to the store. Right? You have FedEx delivered
dog food to the house right now, this made no sense to me. And
you bring it up with these guys, one after another. And these
are, you know, CEO level guys, and they say no, you know, get
it. It's a new economy. I'm not hearing anything to that
extreme. Does Joe get as new economy, new economy? I got
nothing like that going on. Everyone's very cautious. And
circumspect. So it's not a bubble.
Hmm. Well, maybe it's not a bubble in the financial sense,
rather than a bubble in the that the people are now sucked in.
And no one knows kids are not being taught how to navigate. I
mean, if you look at it, objectively, kids are not even
being taught what a file system is. Here's the file system is
being hidden, you know, just just take it away. And I think
it's very sad that innovation is being kind of hidden from view.
You know, what, how things work? How, you know, it's, yeah, that
it's kinda it's kind of like cars, you know, what happened
with cars, and we've
kind of seen how they operate. They don't know how a motor does
have no idea how that works. And, and now, of course, cars
aren't necessarily a bubble. But it just feels like there's a lot
being we're putting a lot of our lives of our Yeah, our, our
digital lives, our information, our history, we're putting it
into these places and systems and it's, it's vacuous it's
going to a lot of it is just going to disappear, will go
away. And it's just it leads to nothing except help the
surveillance state and make us dependent on it is, well, it
makes us it makes us dependent upon technology that others are
managing for us when when we could pretty much manage a lot
of it ourselves. Maybe that's what I'm what I'm trying to say.
Here mio if
I think you're living in a dream world, if you actually even
think that's possible anymore.
Don't let that be my dream
dream world concept is this. Let me play two clips, which says
we're talking about financials and stuff. I just haven't
coincidentally got these clips because I thought they were
funny. They're taken from frontline. This is a guy
interviewing a fund manager at Prudential insurance about all
the research has been done over the last number of years about
index funds versus mutual funds. And, and this is part one of
index funds.
You want to you want to explain what these are, do you need to
index fund is what you're
you're just essentially investing in a fund that is that
reflects, for example, this s&p 500. And it just whatever the
s&p 500 does is you get the benefits. If it goes up, you get
it goes down, and then it goes up and down. But if you look
over it over like 100 year period, if you invest, if there
was such a thing as an index fund in the Dow Jones 100 years
ago, you'd be filthy rich, because if you really look I
mean, this market goes up and down. But But overall, it's
going up to the right, right. And mutual funds, of course are
where you have an expert that picks all these funds
fund a fund manager, a manager
they manage and they take all this, put a little bit of this,
a little bit of that and he's getting into, and then they
supposedly have all these funds for different kinds of
investors, they got the conservative and they got the
guy who just wants to make some money from bonds, which is all
bull crap, because they always end up putting the money in the
same fund in the same stocks anyway, but that's beside the
point. So we have this is the kind of though you're talking
about delusional, this is what we're talking this is why
are you calling me delusional when
there's a lot of delusional investments? There's a lot of
it. Yeah. So play the index funds part one, and then you'll
hear this part of it.
Year after year actively managed mutual funds failed to beat
index funds. Studies have borne this out repeatedly over various
time periods in bull and bear markets. I asked the head of
retirement at Prudential, which markets dozens of actively
managed funds. What she thought about this?
Yeah, I haven't seen any research that substantiates
that. I mean, I don't know whether it's true or not. I
honestly have not seen any research that substantiates
that?
So all the research that's done at Vanguard that makes that
argument you've looked at that?
No, I haven't. I haven't. I haven't read everything. But
it's so much of depends on, you know, what I need is different
than what you need. And there's not an asset allocation or a
fund strategy. That's right for everybody.
Wow, that's great. I have never looked at a spreadsheet.
And never leave. But what I love about the pitch is that
everybody has their own needs. This is like going into a
winery, it just bugs me to know. And by the way, what everybody
wants is to get, take a bunch of money and either keep that
money, so it doesn't go anywhere or make more money. That's this
is pretty general. That's about it. It's like you go into the
winery, and there's a bunch of wines there. And you look at the
list is a bunch of them. And you and you ask the person. And you
know that there's a couple of famous wines that these guys
make. Say, what's your bet, you know, so you want to do some
wine tastings, I'm gonna I just want to taste a couple of wines.
What's your best, what is your best wine? Now, I don't care
what anybody says. There's always the best wine. There's a
worst wine too. But there's the best wine. And then when you get
this answer, oh, everybody has their own taste. I just usually
walk out.
Thanks. Thanks a lot.
Does that doesn't tell me anything. Everybody has their
own taste? So in other words, if it was some skunk pee, somebody
would like that. Is that what you're telling me? I just find
it incredibly insulting. So the guy in the in the show on the
frontline show. Now he goes to another experts, not a fund
manager, but an analyst to discuss what he just discussed
with this nut ball from Prudential, who apparently just
could i Oh, no, that makes no sense. I've never seen any
research on that. And so he gets kind of an interesting answer. I
talked
to one woman that to Prudential, who's head of retirement and
asked her if she was aware of the studies that showed that
index funds did better over time than the actively managed funds.
And she said she wasn't.
That's unbelievable. I find that actually unbelievable.
These people that are in the business know that the index
funds do better, right? They convinced themselves that's not
true when I talk to them, but wait a minute, all the studies
that how can they convince themselves that's not true?
Because
they're convinced they're recommending the fund that's
going to do better? This is not
a time when you want to be buying index. And of course,
there are hot funds. This is not gambling. It's investing. The
financial media loves the best performing us. That's great.
Yeah,
well, it's because if you don't, if you everybody went did with
index funds, there'd be nothing to talk about on CNBC. You don't
have anything to sell the advertisers. This is all this
again, kind of reflects on our show. It's all part of the
commercial mercantile scene. It's all bull crap,
I have a little interesting thing. In that vein that I
picked up, one of our producers is just a total Big Pharma nut.
And she loves researching stuff and sendings no worse than I am,
you know, high with the, with the big pharma stuff. And this
also, it kind of shows you how the scam works. This is Glenn
Olson. That's not our Prusa. But Gwen Olson is she used to be a
rep for Big Pharma selling to doctors and hospitals. And she
talks specifically about, well, I'll let it play for itself. But
she connects the dots between two drugs, and the one company
that makes them which is just really, really cool. And it's
and it's about the cholesterol lowering drugs and the knowledge
that actually, you know, cholesterol does not necessarily
cause heart attacks. But when you lower someone's cholesterol
too low, it can cause a whole bunch of other problems, one of
which we've heard about,
they know that cholesterol isn't what causes heart attacks. But
as long as they're making billions of dollars off of
cholesterol lowering drugs, they are going to sell them to you
and they are going to convince you that you have to take a drug
to be healthy. But they taught me as the rep selling the drugs
that hey, guess what you can lower cholesterol to match. And
if you do that, you can wreak havoc in every other body system
that you have. In fact, all of the clinical data shows that
people with lower cholesterol levels, especially those over
the age of 55. If they have lower cholesterol levels, they
will die of other things such as cancer, autoimmune disorder,
they can also have severe impotence, well, they won't die
from impotence, but it might be a major imposition on him. And
that is one of the major side effects that we're seeing with
the cholesterol lowering drugs is impotence. Let's take the
cholesterol drugs for example. Does anybody know what the
number one cholesterol lowering drug is right now that's on the
market. It's called Lipitor. Okay, now this They manufacture
that makes Lipitor, their number two selling drug is Viagra. Hey,
go Pfizer.
Yeah, no, I
I'd never heard it spelled out that way.
That's borderline clip of the day I was gonna give it to you.
That's beautiful,
though, isn't it? Like, Hey, first let's let's make an
impotent drug for it. Yeah, beautiful. Yeah. So that's how
this, I was reading analysis of like 401 K, how that is actually
like a huge scam. That really the fees that they take if you
do the math, which is it boggles my mind, because it's just math.
But the way the fee schedule works on 401 K's that at the end
of like, you know, 30 years or something, some crazy amount of
like, 70% of your money has actually gone to the bank and
fees.
Yeah, the 401k thing is disconcerting. I'm not
sure sure how it works, but it's there's a lot of stuff on the
internet. You can you can read about it's like doesn't really
turns out it's not such a great deal.
While you're on the drug topic, I do have a drug clip. Yeah,
there was a woman that was at his part of, I guess a made for
TV documentary or something she's worked about. She has had,
she was taking some breast cancer drug. And she was finding
that the very they would point or the insurance company say you
gotta buy from these guys are. And there was a huge, this is
part of that scam that, especially with this generic
drug. And she went and she documented the difference in
prices. And if you see this every once in a while, when
you're searching for something on Amazon, there'll be like a
candidate film canister to you know, 25 cents plus shipping.
And then you'll see the same film canister for $2,000. If you
ever noticed this, there'll be some
money laundering, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah.
Just money laundering going on with some of these items. Yeah,
but listen to this clip. This is the drug price price variation
clip.
One store quoted a price 40 times more than the other. How
could that be? Especially when generic drugs are commonly
thought to be so inexpensive?
I was shocked. I was confused. I thought, What am I missing? You
know, this doesn't compute.
Thompson, who'd never been a consumer activist said she felt
compelled to try to figure this out.
I started just on my own to find some other pharmacies in the
Twin Cities here
last June, she made another round of calls like she did more
than a year prior. And what she found was that nothing had
changed. wildly varying prices for her generic breast cancer
drug. How can I
help you? Hi, I'd like to find out what the retail prices for
30 days supply of a generic drug called letrozole.
$11.04 is 2988 4599
is $364.99 I didn't realise it was that much it's $435 $455
It didn't seem fair. And it seemed to me especially
egregious when it involved a life saving cancer drug just
upset me.
So this is the part of this insurance scam that's going
around to because we've seen this the drug companies and of
course the generic drug companies have been bought up by
the real drug companies to make this even more complicated
exactly
that's that's what the Bertha foundation guided he sold his
generic he was kicking the the drug companies as sold his
generics company to what's the word the G.
Glaxo
Glaxo yeah and it became Glaxo generic so they own the whole
the whole industry
so you run into the situation and of course the insurance
company is collect the you know, there's they're involved in this
somehow there's kickbacks. I mean, this is all corrupt when
you have price ranges that she outlined from $11 to $450 for
the same exact product. There is a corrupt aspect to it. I don't
know what specifically it is, but it's obviously a corrupt
situation and this is really intolerable.
Well Hillary Clinton when she's president will put an end to all
of that. Guarantee you guaranteed let me just see if I
got anything left. Big solar flares we've had a whole bunch
we had an X flare that's nothing really fantastic. But I am
keeping an eye on it. Paul has really not much yet. Well we
have these protests going on in in Brittany in in France.
Oh, that's nothing I got a clip blitz here.
Clip blitz kit. Yeah, a bunch of clips. Do it. End of show. Yes.
What
are we go ready?
You It will give me a chance to
think that the problems in Brittany play be headings in
Brazil.
All right click Blitz.
Another dark cloud has cast a shadow over the build up to the
2014 World Cup in Brazil after a former pro football player was
found decapitated in Rio de Janeiro this week, the head of
Xiao Rodrigo Santosh was found outside his home in the early
hours of Tuesday. The motive for the crime remains unclear
although the victim's wife reportedly works for the
military police in one of Rio's pacification units designed to
crack down on gang activity. The incident comes three months
after an amateur referee in northern Brazil was decapitated
after he fatally stabbed a player for refusing to leave the
pitch
yes that's how it professional sports to be played everywhere
is designed concern Okay, click blitz continues
okay, here's another thing now you're talking about Bill of
protest and Brittany here play the Kenya Kenya and by the way,
we talked about Kenya being a craphole play this Kenya horror
story.
In Nairobi, Kenya, hundreds of people took to the streets to
protest sexual violence after a 16 year old girl was gang raped
and her accused rapists were freed. The victim known as Liz
was beaten, raped and left for dead and a pit latrine. In June.
She suffered severe injuries including a broken back and is
now confined to a wheelchair. Liz identified three of six
alleged attackers, but their only punishment was being forced
to mow the police station lawn.
It's funny you say this because this morning we're having this
conversation about how people are upset about maybe someone
being shot at the airport. I actually said I said the
atrocities that go on in the world are so much larger and so
crazy that we don't hear about ever. No we don't clip Blitz is
good. What's next John on your clip Blitz? All right. Naming
cats. Okay, this is great. Jeannie Jasmine. Big Mickey
little nick raising the grey horse Gump.
He's a little slow. Jeannie.
Tucker, what the heck is cats?
What is this? No, I heard the
Wilson was 700 Cats is a new series on one of these stupid
channels.
Someone told me and I didn't look up the article. There was a
New York Times article about how cats are responsible for killing
millions of people a year around the world. Oh, a dead diseased?
They? Well, first of all, they kill every single animal in the
world the like, kill here too. Why did they kill 2 billion
birds 12 point 3 billion animals and millions of people. Cats,
man, you think you think al Qaeda is bad? We need to be
looking at these cats.
I don't trust cats. I
don't trust them either. Very
last clip. This is a little long when we had to play but this was
there's a show on called Teen kids news. It's once a week. And
there's a bunch of teenagers that are
everywhere. Do I find this show? What channel? Oh, it's
unsightly. I think it's on a PBS channel or something. So you
have to look it up. Teen kids news is a weekly news programme,
a news magazine nice, essentially done by teens. And
it's usually pretty idiotic. But they had this one where they
went on in the streets. And they asked kids like teens, young
teens, who are all most of them don't remember 911 Because
they're not old enough. It's pretty long in the tooth. And so
they they asked him about the terrorism thing. And all the
kids are scared to death. He said one or two which is
interesting. But then they summarise at the very end with a
couple of tips that I know you're gonna get a big kick out
of
we want to know, how safe do you feel America is from a terrorist
attack.
I feel that we've set up our security since 911 has happened.
And we're more aware of what's going on now. So we have troops
around to protect us. And in case anything does happen. I
think we'll be ready for it. Honestly, I don't think it's
very safe. I mean, you're always going to find somebody or
something like we could have a plane hover over ahead and drop
a bomb on us right now. But the security systems at the airports
have definitely improved, especially on internationals,
and I think it's getting much less of a threat than it was
before like a 911.
how safe do you feel America is from terrorist attack?
I think America is very safe from terrorist attacks. Because
ever since 911, we've increased all forms of security, including
at airports and other places where people come into the
country.
Well, safe in the sense that I don't believe anything would
happen but not safe in the fact that people are always worrying
about it. So it's almost better off to be unsafe than to like,
for example, on the anniversary of 911 It was almost worse than
anything happening the nervousness ever what could
happen.
Honestly, I don't feel that with that faith because you know,
it's a Very diverse country, there's, you know, different
types of people in the country and people coming in every day.
So, you know, it's not far from you know, today or tomorrow that
something bad might happen. It's not we're not that safe,
pretty safe after 911 I think it has improved a lot. But before
it could, obviously use some tweaking, but now I feel pretty
confident that it's fine.
With the death of Osama bin Laden. The world is probably a
bit safer today than it was on 911. But that doesn't mean we
should let our guard down. The US Department of Homeland
Security has this advice. If you see something Oh, something,
report suspicious activity to the police or call 911 for teen
kids news. I'm do
Well, John, I have to say right on the cusp of ending the show,
you get to clip a clip. I literally have chills going up
and down my spine and I'm looking at the website this is
an Emmy Award winning programme number one rated educational
show this is shown in schools. This is this is I'm almost
speechless. I'm looking at this website. And they of course they
don't really tell you who's behind it. Other than that they
work very closely with NBC Sports and Fox News. Sounds
about right. And this is Alan Weiss here we go. Let's look at
the let's look. Before we go I need to look at this creator and
CO executive producer Alan Weiss, co executive producer and
director Tanya Wilk and Mary Lou Yaqoob. Who is this Alan Weiss.
Have you done any research on this because this is
no I just watch it and enjoy it because I know if you see
something to say something this is just an
outrage Alan Weiss let's see we have the summit Consulting
Group. Of course we need to have like IMDB maybe this should be
banned from from schools. If your child comes home and says
oh, we watched the teen kids news today. Then you should
immediately call a meeting at the at the school the PTA. This
immediately this is the guy who did Alan Weisman, incredible
successful career in Hollywood. He did Blue Hawaii for Elvis
Presley. Really the can't be the guy. Bobby. FAQs. What is teen
kids news? It's the leading television news programme for
teens and kids nationwide. The weekly FCC friendly 30 minute
show aims to inform educate and inspire Ah, okay.
Well, you know what, let's stretch one little more thing
then. No,
you're not gonna you're not gonna do you're not gonna hurt
me anymore. Are you? Oh,
yeah. So you're talking about you mentioned I wouldn't have
done it and if you hadn't mentioned foxes involvement.
Here's something that Fox Fox Fox thought you know, the people
who bring you Fox News and all the rest of it a kind of a this
is a an experimental show cartoon show they're thinking of
rolling out called High School USA. That said the clip is HS
How
do you know how do you know it's experimental and then they want
because it shows up
late in a bundle of shows that it appeared to me to be pilots.
Okay, and there's a this is a clip of it high school USA I'm
going to two clips. And I want to tell ask you if you think
that this is appropriate for any
You're hurting me, spread the funds out evenly in the school
instead of just hiring more and more janitors. You probably
would have gone unnoticed,
but this was just dumb superintendent comfort
superintendent cubs
lie It's pronounced Andrea, Andrea,
I'm telling you the students who are the smartest I've ever
known. If you just give us one more chance to take this test. I
promise we can do this without my breast milk.
You wait hold on your breast milk. Dan, what the hell's going
on at your school?
Nothing that's not going on at every school across America.
Fine,
whatever. You can retake the test but if you fail this time,
I'm shutting down this perverted place for good
perverted ruin. You're the one who likes to pee on people con
Fleur.
So that begins is on what channel?
This is on Fox Fox Fox Network. But now we're gonna go to part
two where the school kids passed the test and they got rid of the
janitors they had hired two men and they're cleaning the
bathroom as we speak and this is how it ends. You know how much
you love status quo.
That's true, but I just feel that since we passed The test
without my breast milk, it must not have been that good. No, but
your tutoring was Marsh. It turns out all the time you spent
breastfeeding you were also reading to the students from
textbooks. You're a great tutor. Oh, yeah, look, everything
worked out great. Cool, but it
won't be great for long. You may have one this time down, but
next time I'm gonna get you and I'm gonna get you
good. Yeah, yeah, big deal. You're gonna pee on me.
It's pronounced who
I picked a bad time to quit
drugs. Is that unbelievable?
And I'm concerned about kids not knowing what an operating system
or a file system is. Is. Forget about it. All right. That's
great. Thanks, John.
You're welcome. I knew I'd liven things up
that's for that really aired that's real.
Yes, I picked it up all over the air OTA on Fox
Wow. All right. Well, I know that we're not exactly FCC
friendly on this show. But parents if I had a choice
between high school USA and the no agenda show I think I know
what I choose. Yes, the crap
out of this discussed
and I'm going to look into this team kids news. That's that's
very, very disturbing. see something say something.
Everything's better since we killed Osama bin Laden. Cheese,
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