Put in a firewall says you're
Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
October 24 2013 Time for your Gitmo nation media assassination
episode 559.
This is no agenda, reviewing
over 5 million lines of code here at the Travis high tide out
in the capital of the drone Star State Austin chaos in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where I review no code. I'm John
C. Dvorak was killed.
That's fine. It was like all of a sudden you went like 1000
miles an hour? Yeah, I did. I'm not used to that from you. What?
Maybe decaf next time for John.
I drink tea.
So there's gonna be caffeine and tea
is like caffeine and tea but it also has relaxed it's it's more
balanced. It's a balanced drink. It's healthy.
Oh, and is this the PG used to drink tea?
I used to drink it all the time ran off with that Dutch woman.
By Hey, come on Dutch people drink more tea than you then you
think they drink? I?
My impression is they just drink coffee?
No, no, no, no, they the Dutch coffee shops all
over Amsterdam. Yes, the city tea shops. When in fact what
serves served in the coffee shops is more rightly known, at
least in general parlance as tea.
So typically the Dutch morning consists of breakfast with tea
and coffee is not until coffee time which is I think anywhere
between 10 and 11 is officially coffee time. And that is when
the Dutch drink a cup of coffee but the morning isn't is rarely
spent breakfast is I would say traditionally in general in the
Netherlands tea.
What consists what is the breakfast consists of
it consists of typically bread with butter and some cheese.
They could be Bread with Nutella. Or bread with the house
lock which is the which is like sprinkles. There's that? I don't
know what that is sprinkles. You do? You know Jimmy's? I guess
what name Will you put them on? These? You've never heard of
Jimmy's? A Jimmy Can you sprinkle on this for me? Hey,
hey, you started.
Large sprinkles. I have not I've just explained.
Have you ever been in Baskin Robbins and you get your ice
cream?
And then while you're talking about that garbage they put on
the ice cream. Yeah. Breakfast piece of bread
with butter. Or or tuna rusk is the Rusk? You know what? A
resin rush just like bread crumbs? No.
Rust is beside. You know, it was how it is? Oh, yeah, sure. Ross,
I think looking at the book of knowledge. It's a round. Yeah.
Like, like, let me see. If there's a different word for it.
Rusk. You're dry. It's a dry biscuit twice baked bread.
Okay, yeah. But let's put in the rusk is what's used in the
British banger?
Yeah, but this is so this is like, imagine a hockey puck. Not
kidding. It's Rusk. Put butter on top of that. And you can
either have your cheese or your Nutella or your Jimmy's.
On top of on top of on top of a hockey puck. Yes, I kid you not.
This isn't very exciting.
I imagine when I first moved there when I was seven and I saw
this crap for breakfast and then they were eating french fries
with mayonnaise. I'm like, Are you? Are you insane? I want to
go home. And then I actually got got used to it. I now I can
barely imagine french fries without mayonnaise. How weird is
that?
Was at a restaurant yesterday. And they had French fries with a
lowly little French place. Yeah. And you know, it's like I can
live with the French. The French fries with the mayonnaise
doesn't bother me. I mean, I've had it. I still prefer ketchup.
But you promise today's ketchup as junk. So I just I don't eat
french fries. But with the aoli, which is a mayonnaise with
garlic and it's just way over the top as much as I haven't.
In fact, I can smell you from here before show day. And this
is one of those days where you know, before the show start of
course we all do the pre stream for those of you who like to
listen live. We start around 30 minutes before showtime and I'm
just playing songs but I really honestly deep down. I really
just wanted to listen to C span. Because it's the funniest thing
you've ever seen. And you could not write this if we sat down
and said let's write something really funny that the technology
community would understand and would laugh their ass off about
you could not write this As the as there's a congressional
hearing with the, I think it's three or four of the 50
consultants who created the healthcare.gov website,
that's gotta be great. When you get these,
I guess it says congressmen or senators who are doing this now
I gotta check I'm not sure when you get them asking questions
about testing and beta testing and end to end processes and
batch batch processing and
probably have a bunch of people that don't know anything asking
questions
incorrect. And we're always laughing about this because you
know, this is like the news in general. This is the House
Energy and Commerce Committee is what it is. In general, whenever
you read something or hear something or see something in
the news, which is about a topic that you really know something
about, you'll be sitting there going like this is bullcrap.
They got none of that right.
It's Congress. But but that's
that's the news. And the news has done absolutely nothing
about this this healthcare debacle except they can't deal
with regurgitate words like oh glitch.
They can't detect people are all out of the audit of the industry
and the news industry the only people that have left been left
over. And if you read any that publications, you can tell this
it's just people interested in iPhones.
Now that's that's the that's all that it is. Yeah, absolutely.
Right. Who gives a crap about anything else? Why bother?
Yeah, it's just iPhones, iPhone. new iPhones coming out. Oh, a
new iPhone with debts. Gold is coming out. What do you think? I
think it's great. I'm gonna buy a gold one.
Here's a fine example of CNN. I think this is the Jake Tapper.
You know, the guy who got fired from ABC for good, whatever he
did wrong, and got sent down to the farm team. They're at CNN,
who by the way now in the morning, have 37,000 viewers in
the demo. Congratulations, MCI, Lee. What's your name? Our
friend their makayley mckaela mckaela mckaela. Isn't didn't
she the one from from talking about what the morning host on
CNN? Isn't it Mikayla from what she did the morning show
is Makayla. She's out of LSU came out at well, she came out
of tech TV then she met Elena. She's there.
And now she has 37,000 viewers in the demo in the morning. Hey,
everybody. Good morning. That's not terrible. That's almost
immeasurable.
That's what you call it. You know, they when they do the the
by the way, I'm going to stop you right now. You know, you're
coming in and out about at a 10 DB fluctuation and I'm worried
that the recording is not consistent. Really. You're like
low and then you're loud. And you're 15 Sorry.
15 dog? Biscuits. I'm sure that has something to do with Skype.
Let me see if Oh, yeah, no, of course. I see what happened. I'm
sorry. Okay. 12121212 How's that sound? Check. 1212 That should
be better. Yeah. Yeah, you're fine. Yeah. You know what it
was? I started up Skype and recheck the automatic adjust
microphone settings. Yeah, so then, so when I'm powering in,
it's trying to compensate for my huge booming voice. Okay. But
anyway, yeah. 37,000 you when they do the arbitrage, or
whatever they do.
Nielsen Nielsen. Actually, that's so low, it's time for
arbitrage. They should be in radio. Let's just turn off the
cameras. Do radio
asterisk.
PBX, people just don't just deliver VHS tapes. It would be
cheaper.
It would be cheaper. They give you if you're under some
percent, like under one or something they get they just put
an asterisk and correct asterisk. I think it's like the
low I
think it's if it's under 0.1. I think that's when you get the
asterisk on the on the ratings anyway, unfortunately for her,
that's a total lie. But here is on CNN, another epic fail just
to give you an idea of the level of understanding of technology.
And what is I guess what happened here is the one lady
who got through on and was able to register and I don't even
know she actually,
I think that the one lady that was one in Ohio, Ohio. The one
got through the other day, the one
with Obama, the one who was in the Rose Garden, and she was the
one. So the way she got through apparently it took her like four
hours and she had to clean her cache and her cookies in order
to create and they did that. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, so but
here's how it comes across on CNN. It took her seven hours
on the phone and online. Eventually she had to go through
and clean out all the cookies from her cache. She was able to
sign up
her cache clip for
the day already.
Really? I get it now. Oh my god. I wasn't prepared for that.
Clip. I mean, seriously, this is what It passes for news just had
to clean out or a cache. You know, maybe she did have to
clean out her cache,
maybe her cache was the problem to start with, you know, Hey,
lady, you know, your attitude is not right. Let's work on that
cache.
Cache. Wow. Do these people in themselves even use computers?
No,
no, no, no. And then. So here, here is here is Sanjay Gupta.
Because again, you know, if you have a technology issue in
government, the person you want to send is the medical guy.
Yeah, he knows he'll know. And we like him much more Sanjay.
Because you know, now he's on the weed on the weed waggon.
He's all for it now for whatever. Finally toked up,
yeah, this guy will do anything. But he sat down with the with
the Secretary of Health and Human Services. Kathleen
Sebelius and asked her a few pointed questions not been
fired. Well, there's there's talk now about the CI should
resign. I think he may even in this clip, even address that.
But what's funny is, she's saying all the wrong things. And
I've been my first company I took public, there was no it was
like 700 people huge integration, we are integrating
with back end systems. We had talked about it before the unit
went through this long. I don't I don't want to go through the
whole story. But I do want to say I've been in this situation,
where, you know, my contact at a company where we screwed
something up, because you know, whether it was on their site or
our site, these are hard projects. Then you hear them
talking to the boss. In this case, the American public is the
boss and it sounds kind of like this. He said to you about this.
Let's get it done. I heard him yesterday in the Rose Garden.
And, you know, he is the first to admit that the website
doesn't work the way we need it to work. So that's one of the
reasons Sanjay we have announced this tech surge and bringing in
a tech
surge John.
Wow, that would be clipped with a day or two this thing and this
is the Iraq War. Yes, that's exactly where we're at. So we're
gonna use the word surge anytime we want to put a little extra
effort in That's right. Yeah, that's right. Wow. It's
the surge
of new eyes in the ears. Jeff science
who's new eyes and ears. Jeff zines
colleague and friend of mine. ministration is coming in as a
management consultant to the administrator of CMS to make
sure we look at the whole management system. We want to
make sure that we have the best and the brightest in terms of
tech folks, we tech folks have gathered them together and asked
the contractors to bring their A team to the table
now Gupta is actually good with 80
Presidential Innovation Fellows to
Presidential Innovation Fellows How come I'm not do I need to be
on that list,
add some strength because we just want to make sure we get
all the right answers and do what is needed listened to as
good as possible to open up the doors of this marketplace.
Jeff science that brings a CEO background with them about tech
people we hear the the best and the brightest. Are there people
or companies that we're going to recognise? Can you give us some
names?
Yeah, because we'd recognise all these big names. I guess what is
it? What do you want to hear Apple, Google, Twitter,
Facebook? What does he want to hear?
Well, right now we've asked all of our contractors to look at
their teams on the ground and bring in teams on
the ground. We've got we've gone from boots on the ground, the
teams on the ground to tech surge.
They're absolutely a team a team. I am confident that that
is happening every day. Meanwhile, we also the
Presidential
directors didn't didn't do such a great job so far. I didn't why
didn't they bring the right team in in the first place? You go?
There you go. Sanjay, good question. You.
Why are we saying three weeks now bring your A team into this
whole equation.
We have the hope that they had their a team on the table but I
am
talking to eight teams under the table apparently
urging them to make sure that we have the talent that they have
available. I think all of them have folks who are assigned to a
project blue one new eyes and ears we want to make sure that
we get all the questions to start over. New. Well, they're
gonna have to is
horrible. Now let me ask you this. Where is our CTO and all
of this isn't? Isn't this what a chief technology officer is
supposed to bring to the table? Isn't this what parks in that
Don parks and that isn't a?
Yeah, well, at least the two Indian guys bailed out. They got
out. I think they knew it.
I think they saw this, this train wreck come in, and they're
like, well, let's go sell into it. But let's not be on the
wrong side. Where was this? Don Park? Todd Park? That's what
Todd dump
before you go into that? Well, I have one more. No, no, don't you
guys. This is referring to what you just did. I've got a list in
front of me of the Presidential Innovation Fellows who there
bring into the table according to Sebelius. That's the list of
the new ones. All right. All right. So God Whoo. He's from
Innovation Ventures at US AI D. O. He's a State Department for
the past two decades. So innovation we're working with
launching and investing in light young companies and
organisations to disrupt their respective sectors. Oh, he's
disruptive. I don't think we need that right now. Not okay.
Well then let's get rid of him. Let's get this guy Scott
Hartley. He's a Presidential Innovation Fellow working on
Development Innovation at US AI D. O. He's
another State Department shill. Okay, so previously
worked as a partner at more Davidoff Sand Hill Road company.
And prior than that, he worked at Google, Facebook and Harvard
and Beckman centre for the Internet Society. He's the
academic IP. Okay,
Presidential Innovation, what does it call fellow
fellows? And then we have Jacqueline bazille, who is a
Presidential Fellow on disaster response and recovery. And this
is a disaster so that she'd be good to have in there. Yeah,
she'll be in there saying, hey, look, this is a disaster.
We need a tech surge to cover up the disaster.
Video. Yes. But Donna is in the Open Data Initiative. She could
be useful. She is working on the Open Data Initiative at the
Millennium Challenge Corporation. Is that a challenge
coin is a Challenge Corporation Oh, Gemini corporate secrets and
a coin somewhat as a college undergrad. girl she just
graduated. She co founded a gov tech startup.
Gov he Hagie. Org. What is it called?
dmv.org.
That's, wait a minute. That's a tech startup.
It's a gov tech startup this get these terms right till it says
dmv.org
is a privately owned website that is not owned or operated by
any state government agency
says Govtech. Now gov tech doesn't mean it's owned by the
government. Like technology, maybe? Well, this
is this is kind of interesting. If you look at this website,
helping you navigate the DMV since 1999. I immediately I'm
like I'm liking this, because, in fact, if you open up dmv.gov
I presume there's a website there. Oh, no, it has to be
www.dmv.gov
Nobody's that incompetent.
There is no dmv.gov Just so you know, it does not exist.
Oh, I'm looking in there says server not found at WWE.
There's no There's no dmv.gov You have to go to subdomains for
your
layaway. Wait, wait, wait, you won't play? Try capital D
capital.
All right, fine. But I like this idea. Where what's your name
again? I can probably find it on our website here. I gotta go
back. Some lost. Advertise with us. Company, our company. Let me
see.
I'd look at Vidya VI, d y a. Span. Danna SP. andan. A.
vigil Spandana. Let's see if she's hot.
She's pretty She's totally.
She's. I think she's very pretty actually. Okay. This is a great
idea. Because
you're not important that she's pretty. It's important that
she's competent, my friend. No, no, it's important. Less
according to the email I've been getting.
We'll get into that in a minute. But I think this is this
actually is a fantastic idea where you take a non faith in
fact, dmv.gov doesn't even exist. You take a non
functioning entity online and that's pretty much anything the
government does. And you create a better version of it just
tying into their hooks or whatever into into their
systems. And then you've got to you've got a business I think, I
mean, looks like that. Looks like they're they're basing it
on advertising, which
is a tonne of these fellows. There's no way they can get all
these fellows in one room at the same time. So she's full of crap
about this. Anyway, you take it, take it, take it.
Who else is anyone else? Who's a fellow because I feel like one
of them there's
like, there's must be 50 of them on this page. And this is the
second round of fellows. And there's nobody that was here's
cyber physical systems. Dr. Saku Ri is a Presidential Fellow in
cyber physical systems project at the National Institute of
Standards and Technology. Sock Wu is a entrepreneur and
executive with expertise in technical fields, including
wireless networks. His broad experience in pioneering new
industries and promoting company growth with a focus on
continuous in noises bullcrap. Jeff Mulligan cyber physical
systems. My USA Hillary Hartley Oh, here we go. She's got a
picture of you got to see the picture this woman
now I'm not doing that anymore.
She Is I'm out. Alright, so I could go on for everyone with
you.
Alright, so this is known as the PIF, the pips. I see it right
here on the whitehouse.gov pips is a pips. Yeah. The
presidential. It's Barack Obama and the Pips everybody. Yeah.
Gladys Knight used to play with the PIs. So here's spokes whole
Kearney, and, and of course, he's, he's being grilled and all
he can do is read off the paper, and it's kind of sad, but
he has pathetic when he's has to look down and read off the
paper. Yeah.
And so here is his, his introduction of Jeff designs, do
you know this guy? The Science Guy? No, I never met him. Do you
know what I mean? He's a budding CEO. He's not like, yeah, how
do you spell his last name?
It's weird. Zed, i e. n t. S. designs. And let's see you I
will look them up while we listen to this clip,
launch the tech surge, oh, well underway, bringing some of the
most talented experts to bear on this problem. And they're
working 24/7 24/7
never been on
fixing the web app. And I understand that HHS is now
announcing some key steps, including the fact that it is
bringing in management Expert and Former CEO, Jeff signs on
board to work in close cooperation with the HHS team to
provide management advice and counsel to the project as those
of us currently. Yeah.
He's currently the Director of the National Economic Council.
So what is he got to do with the price of bread when it comes to
computer systems? Oh, nothing? I don't know.
They think that somehow you're going to bring in another
manager, another guy who's gonna have to get up to speed on this
debacle, that that's going to work. This is just about the
worst thing you can do, Jeff, he's an add to a team, and many,
many teams who are completely demoralised. And now, you know,
I've been here I've done this. This is exactly the wrong way to
go.
I don't see any by the way, I don't see any evidence that he
knows anything about systems. I
know. It's all about management. They think that it's just
management, management management. Yes.
This is this is the idiocy of the Yeah, this is crazy. And
there's nobody in Congress that seems to have a clue about any
of this either. So well, this is this site's never gonna work.
I don't think so either. I think it's never really gonna work
very well. They're gonna have to really go back to it. It's not
the site. It's all the backend stuff. That's what it is.
Anyway, so on Sunday, on Sunday, we will have plenty of fun
clips, to listen to
guys just a government stooge. He's not even a CEO, CEO of
what? I can't find anything.
I see the let's see the advisory board the
management, he's like, okay, he was one of the board of
directors of XM satellite radio.
He knows he was Chief Operating Officer of Advisory Board
Company. And corporate that's
a company that does the first CTO was part of one of those
with some Washington drinking club that was called the company
I have no idea what it is. I read we've talked about this
company it's not a company it's a it's just a bunch of guys who
formed something called a Company
Research Council of Washington with five employees Yeah, yeah,
it's a think tank drinking club Yeah, my great bring them in
bring this guy knows nothing.
In fact, I on his wiki page, someone should go in on his
Wikipedia page and replace his picture with a with a target on
his head
might be considered a terrorist threat.
True. Maybe you don't want to do that. Yeah, now this is this is
what is interesting is the if you look at the the House
hearing three women two men on the in the witness stand, and
they say there's no women in tech. Well, they're there.
Yeah, they're there to get blamed.
Actually, I think the woman from Ray, I don't know if she's from
CGI or CMS, but she's actually doing pretty well.
This guy by the way, and yet, in this day and age, I'm gonna this
sounds a little weird, but I'm gonna say it anyway. This Jeff
zines guy. He's not even on and he's not a high level guy. He's
not he's not Larry Ellison. No, this guy isn't even on Linked
In. Wow. I mean, every I tell you, everybody who's a CEO in
almost every company with the exception of very few extremely
high level people, they're all on LinkedIn. This guy's not on.
So he's not even in that league where he's he's just, he's just
a slouch. Okay, let's go from there. Sorry.
Someone who's gonna get blamed. That's what's gonna happen. I
even got a note and this kind of confused me from Nancy and de
parley. You know, I'm on the on the wall. White House ready for
Hillary? Well Nancy and depart know the note was about the
Affordable Care Act and the Health Insurance Marketplace and
we're the website launched as you know, hasn't gone advanced
as you may have heard the website launch hasn't gone as
smoothly as it should have. But she's not she's not there
anymore. She left and she's in
left Yeah, she's so they're just sending out letters with her.
Yes, I
think so. Because if everywhere you look, she's now at a private
equity firm. She left and you know, so
it's just a template. I think it is John. Yes. Disgusting.
I got the email I'm like Nancy and apparently didn't show Yeah,
here it is Nancy and apparently left the Obama White House last
January. Yes. How do you spell her name? So Nancy dash N A N N
depart les DPARLEDAGP A R L E R, L E. And if you if you look at
the book of knowledge, I know it does. It says she's returned all
of a sudden. So I think that, you know, the whole I think the
whole administration is running on one big Perl script. It's
worse, it's probably AppleScript. Here it is the
poorly.
Yeah, and here's Nancy and to parlay on LinkedIn. But she's
not like she had the consonance capital company. Yeah. Yeah,
yeah. Well, why she's sending out this note then.
I don't know. That's, that's what's so weird. I'm telling
you.
They've got they these guys are running on fumes they are.
It's good. It's so bad right now. And please transition us
right into net sec. Wanke. Because I
think it's true as you said things are so bad right now the
first thing I thought of was nav sec. It's not SEC one that's
yeah, national security walk net SEC walk and now if people
haven't heard this story, actually have a clip that kind
of outlines it. This is the very short clip I see here. So that
the one Yeah, play it.
And a guy who worked in the White House on national security
is looking for a new job tonight. He was fired for
tweeting. This is one of the tweets that jofy Joseph aka net
SEC Wanke sent like this one many tweets insulted top White
House officials he was exposed and fired last week.
Oh, you didn't have oh, man, you need to you need the three
examples everyone's using?
Well, the my there's more than a few examples that you could pick
from if you have, I think is LinkedIn. It's in the show notes
of course, the entire history of this guy which was taken off of
Twitter. And somebody said, You know I haven't found out why it
was taken off. It was taken off by Twitter if he closed the
account but I think it was taken off by the company because it
doesn't say close the account. Usually it's his accounts been
closed or private or something like that. Yeah, by something.
Yeah. But this one's This one says server error.
Maybe you did you mean dmv.gov
And so he went after everybody when one of his key targets was
Valerie. Yes,
yes.
I have. I have what is she even doing here? Why is she here? I
think she's got too much influence on the president. Who
is she anyway?
I was like hey the highest this guy taken my my stick. I'm glad
they closed the CAMEO. They want to seize this and I'm not even
on the on the inside. Here's CNN who are just appalled. appalled
that anyone would do this. This is what everyone hates about
Washington. This is appalling. We can't he's me. Last
thing the Obama administration needs a rogue tweeter. Believe
it or not White House National Security Official JioFi Joseph
fired last week because he posted hundreds of snarky tweets
snarky critical of his bosses and government policies and
bosses friends and officials and just about anybody because it
went on for years. Oh, Jim Acosta is at the White House
with the very latest on this we got the
guy on the at the white in the White House lawn to talk about
this. Everybody stopped the presses.
Jim. Honestly, when I read these tweets, I thought I was reading
the tweets of a 15 year old mean girl
15 Your mean girl, Aaron. No, that's that is I think it's the
girl the lady with the with the glasses and the short blonde
hair.
They are outlandish.
It sounds like something out of that movie Mean Girls are
Heather's or, you know that sort of stereotype.
We watch all the time. Apparently. That's how would you
know about it. As you watched it go behaviour
and honestly, sometimes Washington can behave like a
high school and this is an example of that. One thing we
should point out White House officials say that JioFi Joseph,
the National Security Council director of Non Proliferation of
pretty interesting title their important title. He was fired
immediately once his identity was revealed as the mystery man
bye Hi in this Twitter handle, not SEC walk, which by the way,
if you go on Twitter isn't there anymore. And just to give you a
sample of the mean spiritedness that was being vented on Twitter
under this handle there, okay,
now this is now we've transitioned into the bullying
meme. Hold on, I gotta do like, Oh, they're
the bullying meme. He was such a bully
was one about Ambassador Samantha Power. He took a tweet
from Samantha Power and then modified it and tweeted it out
himself. Ambassador powers original tweet was about how she
was wrapping up a busy day at the United Nations General
Assembly. And talking about to President speech there. And
natspec Walk JioFi Joseph tweeted tweets like this are why
so many soured on you. And really that's sort of scratching
by the way that was like the what? That was dumb. That was
just a dumb non sequitur tweet. It made no sense at all. If you
said, How come you married Cass Sunstein? What are you doing
with that? Douchebag that would make sense
on the surface that
that tweet by the way. He did that. Yeah, he did. He had a
tweet about gas
with gas. To the iceberg there are many other mean spirited
ones the mean spirited are Palin and Valerie Jarrett and many
other therapists Valerie Jarrett officials in the Administration
and outside the administration of the GOP Joseph once he was
busted, apparently released a an apology statement to Politico
and I'll read that to you. It says it has been a privilege to
serve in this administration. I deeply regret violating the
trust and confidence placed in me What started out as an
intended parody account of DC culture developed over time into
a series of inappropriate and mean spirited comments. I bear
complete responsibility for this affair and I sincerely apologise
to everyone I insulted but but actually, I mean, he says it was
a parody account of DC culture. This is what people don't like
about DC culture. Now.
This is the best thing that I've ever seen from DC Cole,
I agree with. You wonder why CNN has no radio is it totally
siding with the wrong side of an argument always persistently
siding with the wrong side of an argument. They are siding with
the power. They're not siding
with the people. And the people want them,
frankly, that it can be sort of mean spirited and cutthroat. So
it's strange that he would apologise. He was sort of
contributing to it.
But Tim can interrupt you for one second.
Yeah, please interrupt because you got something important to
say Ashley.
While she gives you that statement? I want people to know
exactly what he did say. I'm a fan of Obama but his continuing
reliance and dependence upon a vacuous Cypher like Valerie
Jarrett
vacuous? What does that mean? vacuous Cypher? But does that an
airhead
vacuous airhead Cypher Cypher which is someone I think I meant
to look it up together exactly right. But someone who just Yaks
a lot I think is a cypher
zero. It's a zero. A vacuous Cypher an airhead zero. Yeah.
Yeah. And turns
me that's just one, the other one you alluded to. So When will
someone do us the favour of getting rid of Sarah Palin and
the rest of her white trash family? What utter useless
by the way. This is very interesting. The first time I
ever heard someone on the news, bring up that tweet, because
most of these news organisations think that's funny. When they
say when it's about Sarah Palin see then oh,
yeah, no, it's okay. And it's funny. Yeah, that's fine. When
it's about Sarah Palin, kinds of criticism of Sarah Palin or
Michelle Bachman. You see, then it's Oh. It's okay. And by the
way, women who complained so stealthily to me, and I'm sure
to you as well, John Kasdan. And I got some I got some complaints
about what we said about what's your name? Ivory? What's her
name?
Keenan ivory. Emily, Emily Dreyfus,
Dreyfus. Right. Cool. Apparently, I was told in a
funny way. You know, she's Richard Dreyfus, his daughter.
Oh, I pissed off the golden girl.
I'm sorry. I didn't know that. Yeah,
I was literally told hey, by the way, you know, that is Richard
Dreyfus, his daughter, like, Oh, now I know. Everyone's
so mad. Yeah, well, celebrities anyway.
Yeah, exactly. i The only thing I want to say about that is
this. And if you didn't hear it, go listen to the last episode,
where for the one time we don't say that we are evaluating women
the way television producers do, right? Because we usually
usually disclaim data.
Usually that's a disclaimer. That's our that's our out,
but I will expand it for once and all in all time. If you are
in media, and you display yourself in media, I don't care
if it's on a poster. I don't care if it's on a podcast on
television, whatever it is, and and you have an opinion about
anything, which most people in media do. That's pretty much
everyone's job. You are susceptible to criticism,
subject subject to criticism of your appearance. Yes. And it is
a part of the game. And make no mistake, it's a game. And
there's a big reason why we don't have video on the show.
Right? We don't need
the aggravation of being told. I mean, I've lived my whole
professional life. I've been a dumb, dude. Dumb Blonde on
Blonde, a dumb blonde my whole life and I really have never
cared ever. But when you say it about a woman and you say boy,
she's if I say a million times on this show, she's hot, amen.
She's smokin hot. God, she's so beautiful. No complaints. Never
a complaint. When you say, oh, man, she used to be hot. Not
anymore. Then all hell breaks loose. You are you're a sexist.
misogynist.
Yeah. I said I didn't pay that much attention to it. No, I got
I got the woman. She I heard her saw her on her thing. And she's
you know, she moaned about it. She said, We're anti science.
She, they actually were very good here. And I guess her
brother or somebody else who came on I just blocked him. But
they went on about oh, these two idiots are old white dudes. I
mean, they go off. This is the kind of people who they once a
little criticism hits them. They turn into the biggest biggest
swathes worse than they just sexist. Yes. It's racist,
racist. How? One guy says we kill ourselves, slit your
wrists. He says to us, this is like unbelievable. And I saw
that what kind of person would say that unless there's sick,
I draw the line. I mean, you can say anything you want. But when
you start calling me a Republican, that's when I get
angry.
Oh, yeah. That's another one and everyone's a Republican. And
yeah, if you're if you're anything against it, I mean, if
you're just not a checklist, liberal, progressive, you're a
Republican. That's true. No. Most Republicans nowadays have
bailed from the Republican Party. I'm a registered
Independent, you can check it out. Yeah. Not a Republican.
But every single one of these women, I just pointed out to
them, I said, Can you tell me can you look me in the eye and
tell me you've never made a joke about Donald Trump's hair? And
they can't because they've all done it. You see, when you turn
that around, and there's a much larger conversation that I'm
preparing not for today, about about the this, you know, that's
the agenda 21 promotion of women. And I have some problems
with this.
I really just Well, it's the agenda 21 is problematic. Yeah.
But just the way that it's being done. And, and I have some
disagreements and it's unfortunately I'm, there's a lot
of women around me. So it seems I gotta watch my back. I have to
be very, very, very knife in my back. Very, very prepared before
I do anything on this topic. However, I'm very happy to hear
that. Def sec. Wanke or what it was it net net sync net SEC was
called Valerie Jarrett. A vapid, what do you call it? Thank you.
It's vacuous Cypher. I gotta write that down. That's a good
one Cypher, I am your vacuous Cypher member of the
Presidential Innovation Fellows. vacuous Cypher? That's great.
Well, I read a lot of the tweets I didn't read them on, I think
we can go over that the list that's on the which came from
scribd.com, which was the capture of the entire Twitter
stream before it was back vacated. And I recommend people
actually download it and save it because I think that'll be
pulled.
It's when you go to the show notes. 559 dot na shownotes.com
That is an offline copy.
Okay, which is better done. Of course, as we've learned over
the years, you have to make copies of things that are online
that are controversial, because they get pulled, there's no use
any excuse to pull them because nobody wants to, you know, make
waves, right? It's got some gems in there. This guy was inside
and he was he was essentially a fly on the wall even though he
was in there. But he was acting as a fly on the wall just
picking up just beautiful little observations. And the fact that
CNN would go after him like this as some sort of a high school
mean girl was is kind of missing the point of the whole thing. We
had a view of the inside of the White House that you would
otherwise not get and yeah, it was it was mean spirited. But it
probably because of what you observed. You can get pretty
angry when you start seeing certain kinds of things
happening in front of your eyes. And if you can, if you think you
can get away with an anonymous tweet, and you'll do it now the
The best comment I've seen on this looking at various news
items was, was this guy, you know, the commenters at the end
of the item and the guy says, geez, it took two years for the
NSA to finally figure out.
And they and the way they did it apparently, is by leaking some
particular information to him, and then waited for it to tweet
out. And then they said, okay, that we only gave it to you. And
that is, of course, the way to get somebody.
This is one of the one of the ways you if you have a
confidential documents, that oftentimes they're coded, so
everybody gets a slightly different version. And the if
they get leaked, that you can see what your version is they do
this, they used to do this. I don't think they do it so much
anymore. But in the early days of sending out screeners, they
would the Hollywood would would put different kinds of codes in
the screener VHS tapes, you mean,
right? If you had a VHS screen, or you would and you made a copy
of and gave it got into the public domain, there would be a
code embedded in the screener that was specifically your
yours. I think this is a part of something bigger, John, and
that's why you're seeing this this type of attack from the
government, media, the CNN, I mean, I'm sorry, the they're so
all in on this, that not with what the people want. I think
that if you just look down the list what we've seen in this
past besides healthcare.gov which you know, I think that's
just pure incompetence. But if you see France Oh, we spied on
70 million French and and we spied on you and the Dutch we
tapped to 1.8 million Dutch phone numbers and oh, yeah, and
by the way, Lemond has this information, and then go and
then murder her phone. Her her her cell phone, her Nokia phone,
they found after this, by the way,
I can tell you that today President Obama and Chancellor
Merkel spoke by telephone, regarding the allegations that
you mentioned that the US National Security Agency
intercepted the communications with the German chancellor, and
I can tell you that the President assured the chancellor
that the United States is not monitoring and will not monitor
the communications of
is not will not he didn't never never did he say didn't.
This is that was brought by beware local news media picked
up on that. Oh, yeah. Well, I actually picked up on the fact
that he and I think there may have been some direct questions.
Whoever
yeah, there's a follow up Chancellor. The United States
greatly value is reading cooperation with Germany on a
broad range of shared security challenge air, as the President
has said, the US is reviewing the way that we gather
intelligence to ensure that we properly balanced the security
concerns of our citizens.
Why it sounds so natural when you're reading J allies.
With the privacy concerns that all people share. Both leaders
agreed to intensify further the cooperation between our
intelligence
I love how we are spying on people to protect our allies,
not just our American citizens, but we actually claim out loud
that we're all we're protecting you, you there, France
services with the goal of protecting the security of both
countries, and of our partners
and partners and our partners, John our partners checking the
privacy of our citizens when you say
are not monitoring does that leave the door open to the
possibility the NSA as part of a broader suite picked up some of
our communication here is the question not quote unquote,
oh my god, it's a good question.
All I can tell you is what the President told the chancellor
the United States is not monitoring and will not monitor
the communications of the chancellor. Right Thank you
there's one guy do you know John bachelor you ever heard this
guy?
Oh, yeah. John bachelor show yeah, radio guys. third tier
guy. Yeah, big deep booming voice however
I a lot of insiders that I know in the DC area, say he's usually
spot on and really has good intel and knows what's
happening. He's a little he's a little weird, you know, bowtie
type guy, you know, like Bill Nye the Science Guy, but I, I
follow it. He podcasts, his radio shows. I listened to some
of it from time to time. Here's what he had to say on the Merkel
thing. I think
this is super serious. I think the suggestion is that it has
happened. And I think this is a sharp break a very bad bad
breakdown between Berlin and Washington. The chancellor is
very angry, and she'd grew up under the Stasi. Stassi like
manoeuvre? And she right now is more than just a little annoyed.
Larry, this is going to cause demonstrate your
Yes, she is very pissed. And yesterday, the
impression I get if you start I watched a lot of the EURO NEWS
and some of these overseas broadcasts and there is no
nothing like Jay Kaiser. Well, they both agreed. I don't think
they agreed on anything. I think she chewed him out. And she's
extremely from what I can tell Like you said,
pissed off. Well, the European Union parliament voted
yesterday. For us access to the global financial database to be
suspended because of concerns the United States is snooping on
the database for financial gain rather than just to combat
terrorism. Listen very carefully what I just said.
My old theory, aha,
and the Strasbourg base Parliament because they switch
it up every month or so, voted 280 in favour 254 against 30
Abstentions in the non binding vote, what kind of government
are you people running? Buying? Why vote at all is so dumb, but
listen, again, they are worried that the United States has
access to the to, to this global financial database. And I and I
believe it's, you know, it's all the financial payment system.
And the concerns are that were snooping on the database for
financial gain? Yes, yes, yes, yes, you can take that to the
bank. You really can. In fact, you can take that to the bank.
We are so corrupt. So incredibly corrupt. What is going on right
now? And I think that that when you look at this net sec, Wanke.
When you look at because I mean, since when is Snowden in touch
with Lemond? Oh, I'm sorry. He has a new partner all of a
sudden,
actually, this article is CO written by Glenn Greenwald.
Okay. To green we it's an I have a big thing about must be
just dig. I mean, you know that what was that report that came
out of that Texas operation says we got to get rid of Stratford,
Stratford, Australia?
She asked
for so but it's, but it's, but it's this. You were a Snowden
right now he's in Russia. This, I think is probably partially at
least related to a T tip. This is a big fu Obama coming from
Russia, a really, really big one. And
Russians can do these kinds of games. And we we take it I think
we take the Russians a little too for grants lately.
Yeah. Yeah. Now, this is very serious.
Because this is a good play by them if they're the ones that
are really behind this. And it's quite possible. I mean, Glenn
Greenwald's of really old fashioned progressive socialist
type. I mean, far as we know, and, you know, it's known as
coincidences in Russia, you know, to and to hear, let's open
our eyes. Yeah,
exactly. That's all you have to do is just take a look and see
what's going on. And everything is everything. I mean, the Obama
administration could not have a worst time of everything. I'm
not so sure, you know, that they're sabotage sabotage,
involved in in the in, you know, his his key, you know, Legacy
legislation. That is supposed to make him You mean, that? Oh,
hell.
Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I don't think so. I think I don't
think you had to sabotage that. Now.
Putin. Here's how the meeting went. Don't worry. They'll fuck
that up themselves. They have no Russian programmers on here. Oh,
okay. Like I got it. So there was this, another one of these
cyber conferences. And the Cyber Conference is nothing more than
a bunch of consultants. All, you know, hopping around, trying to
get money out of the government. So who's there? It's Hayden,
it's certo off. It's Gosh, Ed, who's the Rogers name their list
of the current Rogers. Rogers is Rogers. That guy's the worst.
He's he's he is in charge of security in the Senate. Is he
not?
Is it senator or congressman, he's the Congressman but he but
so he's in charge of this stuff. Feinstein's ahead of the Senate
side. Right.
And and so he's the and they've got all the consultants and I
just need to play to little bits here. Let's see what is the here
is here's Hayden. And of course, you know, the All we can do is
scare the public and get ready for legislation so we can you
know, the big bonanza of money. And it's all about cyber, cyber
cyber sigh by
the way I've parsed it is I talked about cyber sins and
cyber centres, cyber
sins and cyber sin. Here we go.
Are you ready? Wonder if Hayden can even use a computer.
It doesn't matter. He's just listened to his right. He's a
smooth talker. His rap is awesome.
So let me just rack up the sins. rack up the sins. There's the
most prominent one out there and that's and that's just raw
stealing your stuff. Oh, it's cyber espionage?
You mean what we do? Yeah.
What do you mean what we do? What do you mean?
That's what we do it that's what the US does. We still stole we
still
by the way. In Idaho, the US District Court ruled that if you
call yourself a hacker your Fourth Amendment rights are
essentially gone. What? Yeah.
Where did you get that one
US District Court for the state of Idaho ruled that an an ICS
product developers computer could be seized without him
being notified or even heard from in court primarily because
he states on his website, quote, we like hacking things and don't
want to stop. So if you use that term, you are essentially, if
you use the word hacking, you're essentially saying that, you
know, I could be rogue
which is somewhat ironic, because hacking is never meant
that he's always been cracking, cracking. Yeah, you know, that
term has been muddied by the media. Alright, onward with
that's okay, go on state purposes,
it's done for commercial purposes. It's done for criminal
purposes. And then then there's cyber activity, to disrupt your
network, to actually not just steal your material, but
actually make it more difficult to use your own infrastructure
for whatever purposes, you've built it. And then finally, and
this has been rare to date, but it's going to become more common
is to use a weapon comprised of ones and zeros.
Oh, John, back up, it's a weapon of ones and zeros in duct tape,
to control someone else's network, to then use that
control to create not cyber damage, but to create physical
damage.
Wow, you like what we did? And Iran?
Well, interesting. You say that.
And the poster child for that, obviously, is, is
Stuxnet. He's actually taking credit for doing it
and the destruction of what Iran could only describe as their
critical infrastructure.
It's just he's saying it. He's just saying it right there. Hey,
that's the poster child.
This I mean, this is like, we rock.
act of war, we rock.
Those are the sins of sinners. Oh, that's the sins now who was
the sinners? Or state actors?
Oh, yeah.
USA, criminal gangs, and then a third group, USA hard for me to
define fairly amorphous, I'm just affected.
I think Baptists. Kid, I can't remember how to say it vacuous
Cypher actually was cyphers.
Alright, those with perhaps difficult to understand and even
more difficult to satisfy demand?
Yes, that would be us, John, we demand money. We demand
donations, it's very difficult to understand these people,
these Republicans,
and blessedly if you look at this taxonomy of of senators,
the most competent are up here at the state level, and then
criminals, and then this third group. I love it.
How is it the most competent are up here at the state level? He's
He's calling himself a competent, warmonger. It's
unbelievable. This
guy, and that's good. I mean, it's good states can behave
badly, but states have to be aware of consequences.
Well, the subtext here was was the whole of her so forth. The
subtext here is to people listening is there is not
through the no agenda lens. They're listening from the oh,
they're talking about China. Oh, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no. This is why I brought it up. Here is the thank
you for for that segue. Here is Lewis the, I think the CEO of
CSI s technology, which is he's up on the day of so he's in he's
got the contract
to echo something that General Hayden said, though, I was
talking to a member of a European intelligence service a
couple of weeks ago, who said that, in their view, there are
20 or 30, somewhere between 20 and 30, high end criminal groups
that have the capabilities of a nation state when it comes to
cyber activities. And that these groups are most of them live in
a country that begins with the letter R. It's all
you know, that's both by the way. Most of them live in the
country with the begins with the letter U.
Yeah, the United States. No, well, well, that's funny, but
the
Ukraine is where these guys come if you want to start something
up that you don't want to ever get out of the Ukraine, but in
the Ukraine, but you have to work with the gangs.
The point is, this is he's on the inside. And he's being told
it's the Russians man is freaking Putin guy. And that's
why it's the letter. Why can't he just say Russia? Why does he
have to? It's the letter R.
Yeah, really? What now you're talking about, you know, acting
like a mean girl that two year old? Yeah, I started with the
letter R. Why did you say Russia? I don't know. You want
to
hear the rest of Hayden, or do you want to know I want to hear
more of this guy,
not Romania. It's not Romania.
It could be a guessing game with the audience.
Let me see. It's not Romania. It could be. Boy, this is really
hard. funda Rwanda,
these groups are focused heavily on the financial sector looking
for ways to get money unlike the
Americans who are in your database, hello or Europe,
looking for ways to steal your money and and bet against you
God, like people we need to revolt.
And that we're seeing this diffusion of capabilities, the
commoditization of cyber attack, so that people are going to be
able to go online and
you can go on Amazon s3 Order a cyber attack, you can order an
instance of a cyber attack, you can start up an instance,
it's a commodities homage to cyber tie. What kind of a
Cybertech Do you want to have a little laundry list? Services
tag? Yeah, you can rack up your page views on your advertising.
You know, there's all kinds of things you're gonna
what does that thing called? on Amazon? When you set up an EC to
an instance it has a name like? What is it called? I don't know.
I so I'll come back to tools
that will let them go after targets that we might
think it's Ami. Yeah, Amazon Machine Image. That's what it
is. You just get boarded up an order up on Amazon EC to Ami. I
just thought we're safe a year or two ago. So there's been some
progress, certainly in the last few years, it'd be more progress
so we could pass the darn bill in the House.
But what Doris
This is funny, because he screws it up. He screws it up, listen.
Well, they're the Senate as the house is built. At its house.
I'd like to see your bill become law. Yeah,
of course you do and fail is this. It's the Bonanza bill. Who
knows what Bill it is. It's a bill for money. And all right,
I'm gonna I'll finish it off with Rogers, the congressman
who's in charge of cybersecurity oversight of the NSA
essentially, is on the committee. And well, it besides
of course, giving this guy this Louis guy. Billions of dollars
no doubt for bull crap for so we so we can't start up our Amazon
easy to AMI instances to commoditize cyber attacks. We
also have to educate the stupid slaves. How would you do that?
John, if you were a congressman, and and you know you are not
let's say you and I are both in Congress. And we could we need
to educate people about cybersecurity. What should we
do? I think we should do some PSAs. What do you think, John?
I think PSAs are good. They worked very well for the music
industry.
What do you think we need to get a mascot?
Mass mascot mascot has always got the kid the kids love the
mascot love a mascot giant chicken?
Well, you can wait for it people.
So what we're trying to accomplish is this about 80% of
the threat, roughly is something that the private sector can
absolutely handle. We can handle through education. You know, the
Friday the firewall PSA is coming to you real soon, about
how you can protect your own network.
I can't wait for the day to roll today.
Ready? The firewall is ready to firewall. Do you want to keep
bad Russians? I mean, people from countries with Nanos letter
that start with are out of your computer. While you don't have a
computer because you only have an iPad, you can actually learn
how to do anything on it, but Freddie's gonna protect you.
It's funny the firewall
you found your voice over gig. Hey, hey, kid,
you can't watch porn. It can't get in because the firewall is
protecting you. Oh, oh, no, you can't download the podcast from
the no agenda show. Funny the firewall protecting you. I think
you're right. I got one. I nailed it. I should do all
nailed it. I got it. I got to do a
bunch of PSAs. On the show,
I need script. Oh, I
can write your script.
I'd write me some script. Hey, kids, it's ready. The firewall
guy. I think I can replicate it. It's funny the firewall
can do that over and over. It's because it's a voice that you
well, you don't commonly do that voice ever. I've
never. It's brand name. Bensi. Right.
He really? You can do that. I think now you can just jump to
it. Okay, ready? Yeah.
I'm plugging all the holes.
I like the cracking.
Firewall says blog. Kids. Plug your boards. What do I see that
little Tina? Do you have an open port at the firewall won't be
happy. Okay. Hey,
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executive our execs and associate execs. But I was kind
of on a on a roll here about the cyber and the stuff that's going
on and the end the meeting and the media and how things are
being reported on. And I think I stumbled upon something pretty
big. That is that is right up our alley. And I think I'm
actually very, very interested. And this involves Glenn
Greenwald, who I'm usually quite critical of but this may be
very, very interesting. I think I figured out what they are
going to do. And I was I started my research and the first thing
I found was an interview on NPR, our national treasure who of
course have absolutely no interest in promoting anything
alternative to them. And they had on Jay Rosen, who is Is he a
professor, or he's a he teaches journalism at NYU.
I think he's a Presidential Innovation Fellow.
I don't think so.
Is he is he evac is Cypher,
more is more along those lines.
Whoa, what quick say something about his his appearance so we
can describe. So here's a just a setup. And then I'll tell you
where it went from there.
York University journalism professor and founder of the
press think blog says Omidyar told him that he wants to build
a new kind of news organisation. So
this is about the the the rumour $250 million
committing right this was I heard this this interview and I
was on that show that they have on on the national treasure on
the media on the media. And yeah, we would give a little
background on Omid OB so in media art ever How do you
pronounce
pr pr on the air? Our PR is the founder of eBay,
multibillionaire and as it turns out, quite a few people in
technology are getting into the news business. Of course, we
have Jeff Bezos, who bought the Washington Post for $250
million. This was the impetus for only omdia Omidyar to say
he's going to commit 250 million dollars to, to this new venture
with Greenwald Scahill and Laura Poitras
of the big three that are always on Democracy Now. The team
but also know that Steve Jobs widow invested in Ozy media
which is you know, there's a couple of people in there
I don't know this now you're gonna have to stop for a second
Tell Me More
Posey media a new startup. With her investment. She joins a
group that includes angel investor Ron Conway, Larry
Sonsini Sonsini is huge. I mean, of course, he needs a law firm.
Yes. But Larry Sonsini is investing in this vent. Well,
he's always been at the Sonsini Wilson Sonsini has always been
Apple's law firm. So that's logical. Dan Rosensweig, need a
lawyer to run a big media company.
You need lawyers man, David Drummond, Google's chief legal
officer,
I can see that she's going to be sued by AWS media works. I can
see that coming down Broadway. But
if you look, if you just kind of look out over the over the new
media realm, we have nothing but venture backed investment in not
no news organisations that are just other than by the way, a
few like the no agenda show that have no investment, no strings
attached. I mean, if you look
at Viola strings attached, I mean, Pan dough, I think is the
best example of a media company that was started Sara Lacey's
operation started with venture capitalists giving her a lot of
money to write positive things.
Well, I would say it started more with TechCrunch where
TechCrunch Right, right. They were the best that was modelled
after because she came out of TechCrunch. But
even Huffington Post, it was losing its shirt. You know,
before I teamed up with AOL, and AOL is, of course, I think, I
believe still losing money. Vox media, Buzzfeed Business
Insider.
All that speed is one of the progenitors and one of the main
players when it comes to native advertising. Yeah, are so often
cited as one of the examples of how great this is. And I think
what you're seeing here with all these venture capital people,
you're getting involved as they see. And I believe me, I would
start a little company on the side, too. Besides the no
agenda, no agenda show, I'd be telling the truth. And then
adult media campaign would be the native advertising company.
Mazal just put nothing but ads for kids, it's ready to fire Oh,
yeah. With the General Electric guy in there, put them ready
kilowatt, you know, just just so take as much money as you can.
Alright. So I think this is all about in my opinion. Well,
here's what's interesting. It really came out in a weird way.
But I think most people are interested in a Why did? Why did
Greenwald. Why did this come out, you know, apparently was
leaked? We'll get into that in a second. What are they going to
do with $250 million? Because there's lots and lots of
questions. What Oh, my God. And I think journalism in general is
in such a state of flux, that there shouldn't be a lot of
interest. So of course, what do we do is we call the expert Jay
Rosen.
You want, first of all, to find more people like Glenn
Greenwald, who are independent journalists, who have subject
matter expertise is very important to him, as well as
their own voice as well as an online following. And then
provide them with a platform and tools. And he also believes that
you need to bring the work of such journalists to a broader
audience than their niches might allow them on their own.
They're bitches. Okay. So clearly is like, he knows
nothing. Now, here's what happened there is this. I think
it's a podcast in Germany, called Young in a naive, which I
think is young and naive, young and naive. And you I know that
you've had this happen to you, John, you're on, you're on the
road, maybe you're doing a press tour, or whatever. And you're in
a hotel, and it's like, you know, and either either you've
set it up or you have you know, so you're a press agent or
someone or whoever's arranging the speech that you're doing,
hey, you know, we've got these local guys and I really want to
do an interview with you. And you know, yeah, right. And and
what happens when you do these interviews, you let your guard
down? Because you're like, Oh, this is just some stupid little
German thing. You know, some guy who can barely speak English.
Yeah,
I don't let my guard down because I don't have a guard.
So Jeremy Scahill is in Germany. And he's in a hotel, and he is
in his video interview, I pulled a couple. It was so phenomenal
because he is such an amateur. He completely, spills
everything. Everything about
me For you play this and I want to add to this because it was
there was a huge kind of a guy apparently, Pierre found this
annoying that the whole idea of this thing that he was
developing was leaked. Uh huh. And I've always been convinced
it's that Scahill can't keep his mouth shot.
It wasn't Scahill
also he says who it was.
Let's get into it and click play it. I'm pleased with with the
knowledge know that the WikiLeaks movie opened up to a
whopping $1.6 million box office. So that's the console.
Yeah, complete failure. That movie's closing as we speak.
Wow, I didn't know this. Either. You got me done three or four
things today.
You got to get up early in the morning, Dornoch,
I get up early in the morning. That's the problem now. I'm days
about 10 o'clock, I'm kind of zoned
out. So either of this is the promotion was wrong, or it's
also possible no one, no one gives a crap.
I think the second rationale, I think
you're right. And I think that has opened up an opportunity.
But let's listen first to Scott Hill, about the leak.
He's not hiring us. We're not employees. This is something
we're doing as a collaborative project. And we're gonna be
bringing onboard some really exciting young journalists and
also some veteran journalists to work with us. And you know, it's
still in its, you know, word of it got leaked, we all deal in
the world of leaks. Someone leaked that we were doing this,
I have no idea who it was. We're
now now right there, I want to say, how can you be trusted? I
would never trust him. Now. You can't even keep your own plans
secret. Or Glenn Greenwald planned it because as far as I
can tell, the news was broken, quote, unquote, on Buzzfeed with
an interview with Glenn Greenwald. And BuzzFeed didn't
didn't say that it was leaked, or anything, there's an
interview with the guy, and he's the one that leaked it. And I
think it's related to what's happening with this movie and
WikiLeaks and the stance.
I'm not happy about it, but I don't have the power to
prosecute them, like Obama was gonna say, right, I'm gonna go
after the I'm gonna hunt him down and smoke them out. And
Paulson, George Bush, no. And he,
by the way, stop that I don't have the power of the blah,
blah, that whole line. I heard him on another show saying the
same thing. Delivering that line almost verbatim. So he's
rehearsed his his stick by I always find annoying by them. I
think it's worse. I think he's so disinterested in this, that
he's just rattling off whatever's coming to mind. But
the kid the guy in this in this, I got to find out who that is a
T lo young, is good. And every single time he asked a question,
you got a dumb answer. The next question was the question I
would have asked, I'm really impressed with this with this
with our German brother here.
So once it was out there, then we you know, we were sort of in
a position where you had to kind of tell people where it was at,
but it's still, you know, we're still in the strategic stage of
it and figuring out but I think it can be extremely exciting.
And I think we're going to be producing some really hard
hitting journalism. Okay,
so yeah, so of course, what we want to know is what exactly is
it going to be? How's it going to work? Is this a new model and
our German I'm going to call him our, our German correspondent, I
think this guy should be a part of our family. So to get better
make get his approval for that. But
what is his he's gonna love it.
Okay, we'll play it play on
today. What do you want to do? What do you do want it a
different?
A lot of a lot of media. I'm one of the reasons why we're really
excited about working with Pierre is that he said that he
didn't want to have a top down model of editorial process where
editors are telling reporters what to do. So we're going to
develop more of a horizontal model. We'll
never wait, this, you're having the exact same response I had at
first and then it dawned on me what's taking place here. So
bear with that. But if you would listen, this, you're like, This
is the dumbest idea ever. This is like letting the noodles kid
run noodles. This is
supporting the work of the journalists, but that it's going
to be a journalism driven website. We're not we're not
just trying to fill positions with people. We're trying to
bring people on board based on a proven track record of great
journalism, and trying to create a space for them, where they can
do that journalism without being hindered by bureaucratic
institutions or processes.
Now Now what what would you what would your follow up question
be? Wouldn't you say something like, wow, that sounds like the
dream job.
I don't know what my follow up question would be because I
wouldn't I'm not in the groove with this guy at the moment. But
I probably asked him, I say does it why doesn't a New York Times
pretty much do that? They've got a lot of award winning
journalists. All they have and their editing is like the
process that you're calling a bureaucratic, you know, whatever
it is, he said is the process. It's not it's not right. It's
not the way it works. I ever worked for a newspaper. I have
no
idea. Sheila Ruffin Lund. In Germany, we would say it's like
the paradise. It is like a journalist paradise. You don't
have a boss where you have to ask them. If you can write the
story or can read story this way.
Right? I don't mean it's like, well, to quote that old CIA
torture, you know, we got to put on the big boy pants and no, but
no, but it is like everybody's going
to what the hell was that non sequitur was that I've never
heard of that that old CIA said, Yeah, my uncle, he hears it he
often I don't know, Uncle
be expected to do their thing. And, you know, we want to work
with people whose whose respect is already there. And it's
proven and, and want to create a space where they can do their
work. And so it is like a journalist paradise. I mean, no,
we're not naive, there will be there will be challenges. It'll
be difficult when you're dealing with a model where no one is
exactly the boss, you have to work out how that's gonna
happen. But we're trying to we're trying to create teams of
people who already have shown a proven track record of being
able to do serious journalism and to do it with on their own
initiative.
Okay, so So now I'm like, All right, this this sounds
this guy. I'm looking at his background. By the way, he's a
he's a documentarian right now, before that he wrote for
magazines of the nation is his most recent books written by and
he's written a lot of books. But this is not the same as working
in a newspaper cranking out these sorts of the sort of
things that he's describing.
Well, I'm and I'm looking at from a business man's
perspective and a media analyst. And I'm thinking, really, you're
going to, I can burn through $250 million without a boss.
That'd be pretty easy. Is this pure a pushover? And you know,
what happens? Here is not a push. No, no, no, because Robert
was Pierre i But but look out John, they have they have a
plant now. First, our German colleague is going to ask the
obvious,
if one of you guys if you get in trouble, if you if if it's
proven that you fucked up something like, can they throw
you out?
Great question. That's the question. Well,
kick your ass. Right? See this rise out?
This is where he loses his guard entirely. That's why it's going
to come out in the
policy. We're, you know, we're we're going to elect Glenn is
going to be the interior minister Glenn Greenwald. And
he's going to have a secret intelligence services to be
investigating me and Laura. No. We'll work it out. We'll work it
out to get too much into the details about this before before
we get it. But maybe there aren't any details. I'd have to
kill you. If
I told you. Oh, that's so funny.
Name of the thing.
No, no, no, no, no. It hasn't been announced yet. But it
doesn't, it doesn't translate into Bootsy Craig or whatever.
So it's not going to be a German German thing that doesn't have a
German name. Can you confirm that? I
don't, I don't want to rule out that it's not going to be a
German name. As I told you there. In the German I
understand the German language is that there's an incredible
volume of dye.
So okay, so here it comes. Now now for the money shot. Now I'm
thinking so I'm processing this I'm like, Okay, we have this
Pierre is no dummy. He wants to put you know, although, you
know, talk is cheap, too. Oh, I'll put my here's my you know,
I didn't see a 250
By the way of the $1 billion. That what's the guy that used to
own a turner? Turner networks? The guy Turner? Yeah, what's his
first name? I can't remember it. Ted, Ted, Ted Turner, I'm going
to you after gates started up his operating arm giving a
billion dollars here and a billion dollars, he gave you
nothing, he gave nothing. Okay?
So if you want to if I was to start a news organisation,
here's what I would do. And it's about and you'll hear this in
the next clip, I would start a new Wikileaks. And I've already
got the team. And here's how it works. We sit there we receive
documents from whistleblowers, we then turn around, we report
on that but we sell it to all the other publications. So our
model is in doing the work doing the investigative reporting and
then quote unquote partnering with New York Times to build
Lamont The Guardian and we sell our services from our
whistleblowers which is what we do Glenn Greenwald
approach this this is his enrich his dream
key wants to be Julian Assange and I think there if you look, I
think there has been a structured certainly on
Greenwald's part, but I think this movie, something happened
this had to come out now, before someone else got this idea I
have the feeling that this was quote unquote leaked, because
Greenwald thought someone else might come up with this genius
idea. I have some more data points to prove
my see the movie now because perhaps the movie maybe
something is too true. He Yeah, it may hint at this model here
is.
So here is sky sky Hill talking about actually being WikiLeaks.
We ultimately
want this to be a public service. So yeah, I love my
German brother. Listen, we're going to be looking for
partnerships around the world and journalists to work with who
do investigative reporting. I remember
WikiLeaks saying we do a public service like Is this a new form?
form of WikiLeaks because WikiLeaks consider themselves
journalism as well?
Well, I mean, I think I think Wikileaks did was incredibly
extraordinary. And that it started a ball in motion, just
picked up momentum. And, you know, I think a big big part of
journalism going forward is going to be finding sources of
independent information, including from whistleblowers
and people who want to leak data. Okay, I get I think,
right. Yeah. Listen, y'all are in the public interest to have
access to we're gonna continue to do that.
So I'm over at Glenn Greenwald's Twitter. And he tweets something
like so proud of freedom of the press foundation. So proud of
Aaron Schwartz. I'm like what? Now to remind you the freedom of
the press foundation is this little drinking club funded by
Mother Jones, who I guess didn't want to fund him anymore is when
they got a new bitch. And this is the club that has Greenwald
and Poydras is in everyone's in this little club and then the
freedom of the press. And what have they just done? They have
just released secure drop and security drop is
the WikiLeaks clone.
It's a wicked Thank you develop Aaron.
Let me just throw a couple of thoughts in here so what they
when they're going on and all we want the best journalists we
want the best this we want the best award winning I don't know
what they want, but it seems to me what they want and what
they're putting together as an intelligence agency. Yes, they
are looking for analysts now. This is not journalism people if
anybody thinks you're gonna get Jay Rosen obviously missed this
by a mile. Yeah. Well, if you're just pulling in a bunch of
documents that you have to analyse, you're not doing any
reporting you're doing intelligence analyst. That's
what you are, you're sitting, ploughing. That's what that's
what they do. And all these go watch the the series, the
Rubicon, it's on available on amazon.com is a free video you
can watch it's a 13 episode series that discusses this in
great detail. And that's what they're asked with. This is not
journalism.
It's a great idea.
It is a great idea if you grew up with it, but you end up being
part of the machine.
Hello. Like they're not already part of the machine.
Yeah, they're part of the machine. But it was high and
mighty thing. I don't think Pierre knows they're part of the
machine. I think he's, he's the he's gonna find out. He's gonna
and he's gonna say stuff like, you know, this is not what I
wanted to do.
Well, I just want to finish up here with the the last bits of
frustration about this about this leak. This is just another
40 seconds of of Scahill. And why that I mean, you if I don't
first of all, securedrop was, that's the new version of Aaron
Schwartz is dead drops. So they basically took the code from the
dead kid, and are marketing it as such under the name secure
drop, which has been checked by Oh, there he is, again, Jacob
Appelbaum did a security audit. Why would you want a guy who's
from the Navy, to look inside what you're doing? But okay.
That's the Tor guy, the Tor network. It's the same people
over and over and over again. Which I'm fine with, because I
think the idea is genius.
Though, I'm not going to comment on my on my personal employment,
such as status, this got leaked yesterday, but I got woken up by
a reporter calling me at 3am asking me about my new venture
with Glenn Greenwald. I'm like, Well, what are you talking
about? I was like, I mean, I know I just you know, now I
know. I guess what Obama felt like when Snowden leaked all
those sudden I'm just getting a minor leak in my life, a minor
leak, to give this guy the hook. I don't want to hear any more
from him.
All I'm saying is how can you trust this guy? If he can't even
keep something secret amongst the three people he's supposed
to keep stuff secret about?
No, you can't trust any of these people. And it's not about trust
anyway. It's about securedrop it's about WikiLeaks is doing
its job, or WikiLeaks is no no, there are they are doing their
job. But let's let's take any anything away from them any any
Mojo they might have. And let's do it in a more commercial way.
And maybe we can make some serious money Reus money
Exactly. As a WikiLeaks guys don't know how to make a nickel.
They got this one guy that guy's one of them. The Embassy locked
up in
Iran. So I'm telling you, I'm telling him, this is how this is
how it went, pear, it's Glenn. I got a great idea. Okay.
WikiLeaks meets Ebay
you gotta play this movie pitch.
Pitch. Well, I bet you they pitch the movie too. We got
Laura Laura makes the movies we got the whole thing will be
documented. Everything's going to happen. It's going to be
great.
You know, makes movies too. So you have to document train
people.
So what we need to what we need to be on the lookout for is a
what is in the movie. I guess you're right. We're gonna have
to watch the movie. We'll probably wait until it's on
demand somewhere which may be next week on HBO next week.
Yeah, we have to. We have to look at that. But I My feeling
is the Greenwald. pop this out really quickly. And from what
I've read from Pierre, he was also kind of taken by surprise,
but I can only see that it was Glenn Greenwald, who, who told
BuzzFeed, I can't see any other orange origin of the story. And
I That's totally what does that. I mean, that's what I want to
look at Glenn Greenwald like get he'll do that that's the kind of
guy he is he will stab people in the back to do to get wherever
Glenn Greenwald needs to go. He
has his vision. Yes, he doesn't see it as stabbing anybody in
the back? No, yeah, he sees it as here's the opportunity for a
certain kind of promotion that's going to benefit us all. And so
I'm going to do it. And I'm going to do this and I'm going
to do that he's the one where he's the what is probably the
smartest guy in the room. He's probably, you know, smarter than
Pierre maybe, maybe not technology wise, I doubt it. But
whatever the case is, he sees he got his vision of this of this
drop box, kind of what is so much denser. Ah, it's dead drop
now secure drop, secure drop and how you can because he just sold
that article to Lemond with a French guy. Yeah. And then and
made probably reasonable money. But then he saw the opportunity
to make it make this a business in itself, which is to take crap
and write it up as news. Yeah,
exactly.
Not bad.
I think we're the only ones who figure that out.
Well, they'll they'll be they'll start to figure it out shortly
once they start seeing what comes out of this operation. If
anything, the thing could collapse in the meantime, but I
think it's a moneymaker. I think it's an I think about WikiLeaks
doesn't know how to make money with all this stuff. They got
they have its money in the bank when people drop off at
WikiLeaks if you want to write it off. Yeah.
But you're right. It's not necessarily journalism.
Now it's not journalism at all. It's analyst analysts. It's
intelligence analysts. theme going into me, I can't talk
analytics. vac voc Vacca Cypher,
you're never gonna get that I'm never gonna get it. I get it.
Because I wrote it down. vacuous Cypher vacuous. I wrote it just
basically being one of those analysts that ends up talking
out of their butts on MSNBC and elsewhere. Okay, well, I think
we've got that that's it for that. We're done. Earlier, we're
talking about there's a little thing that's coming up. That's
kind of interesting. And I would I'm gonna put in the Red Book as
some of this stuff. But I have two clips when I was going to
plan the last show. And I've still have it here and it kind
of introduces the situation play this clip Saudi Arabia and the U
N.
Saudi Arabia appeared to reject its newly acquired seat on the
UN Security Council today. It accused the 15 member body of
failing to resolve international conflicts like this civil war in
Syria. Its foreign ministry issued a statement that said
allowing the ruling regime in Syria to kill its people is
clear proof and evidence of the UN Security Council's inability
to perform its duties and shoulder its responsibilities.
But UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon said he is yet to receive
official notification of Saudi Arabia's withdrawal.
Well, the official notification came through. And it was
interesting and it caught the White House off. Guarneri was
all in a tizzy over there and I had some other clips on this,
but I can probably summarise it better. The Saudis have been
putting help making us to help promote them to the Security
Council. They've been, as one reporter said, coveting the
role, right? And so they got it. And then they said, Nah, screw
we don't want it because it's sucks. Because they're mean. And
they kind of pointed the finger at us. And now they're, you
know, bitching about we didn't do this. We didn't do that. And,
and now all kinds of these analysts are coming out saying,
Well, you know, we had these two are our best allies in the
Middle East. We're always Saudi Arabia and Egypt and Egypt
situation fell apart. And the Saudis were irked that we threw
Mubarak under the bus and all this is going on. So I'm
thinking what the heck is one thing I think Saudi Arabia is
now going to be targeted for a takeover so we can steal their
oil, which is fine, but it's going to cause all kinds of
repercussions, especially in the area,
in the region. In the region.
Yeah. And the region. So I'm thinking who is behind this?
Because it's not the Russians because the Saudis wanted to get
rid of Assad and the Russians want to keep them so there's not
them. I believe the Chinese have started to meddle because
they've been meddling we we saw the places they were building in
Libya. Yeah. And we you know, they they had a whole town there
was going up they were and all you know, they got most of
Africa already.
Let's put it this way the Chinese are, it's about time
they did something to stop our insane advance on their crap.
Yeah. So the Chinese I believe are somehow behind this. And I
don't have any evidence of this. But it's the only thing that
makes sense, because they're the ones who probably go did the
Saudis, you know, to turn on us. And they're now the discussion
when you hear other other this has been going on on most of the
public stations. When you hear other discussions, you hear this
one, too. This is kind of a meme that's going around. Oh, what
happens if we buy all of our military supplies from the
United States? What he had, what would happen to us? We're too
dependent. What would happen to us if the United States pulled
the plug on spare parts? Now, there's a couple of things to
think about in this one. The Chinese are the major makers of
spare parts for
American products, and we take all their counterfeit parts and
put them into our aeroplanes. Yeah,
the parts are no good. By the way, most of them are off spec.
Yeah. But that doesn't matter. But because they can sell these
things. We buy off spec stuff all the time, and the wings fall
off. People don't realise how important specs are for bolts.
You'd be amazed. Yeah, it's actually true. Yeah, so the
Chinese just made the cheap crap. I think the Chinese are
horning in on on the on the defence stuff. I think they're
gonna first start with the parts. They're gonna come and
then deal we're gonna start, we already started to see China.
Chinese jets.
Hold on, hold on. Let me play this back what you're saying.
You're saying that our tool tool is military stuff, military
industrial complex, but mainly stuff that we sell to the to our
partners, like the Saudis. And we would say, hey, Saudis, if
you don't shut up, don't drive. If you don't shut up, we're
going to stop the supply of parts and your stuffs going to
fall apart. But maybe we've said that in so many words, and the
Chinese are saying, Hey, want some parts. And by the way, we
can get you some brand new stuff, look at this shiny plane
over here.
So I think exactly that it's going to, we're gonna start to
see a slow shift that we have to do is we're gonna get a hold of
our contacts over there on our economic hitmen, folks, and try
to see what the connection if there's any connection between
China and Saudi Arabia that's worth noting? Well, because
they're there. Bailey did are definitely not on the Russian
side on this deal. The Russians have got nothing to do with the
Saudi decision to jump the Security Council. And it's got
nothing to do with us. So it's got to be somebody else. And who
else would there's only three players in the Chinese of the
third player, and there's got to be them doing something. They're
sneaking around.
Interesting analysis.
Yeah, we'll see what happens.
I agree that the White House was completely caught off guard
about this. And I will, I will say the first thing I thought
was more Russian crap. But this makes more sense. Yeah. I like
it.
A lot. Yeah, I was trying to put a Russian thing in there. And I
couldn't do it says that the Russians, you know, could use
another no vote on the Security Council. I don't I just don't
understand how the Chinese managed to do this. But they
did. There's an analysis clip, you went up, I want to play of
this Saudi relationship, which kind of outlines some of this
random, and
you were talking about your long experience there many this goes?
So this is a deep relationship. I mean, explain it put it put
the president into that larger context. How important is this
relationship has been
this relationship has been a cornerstone of the American
relations relations in the region for 50 years, as has the
relationship with Egypt since the peace treaty. We have both
those countries, the future of that relationship is in question
now from the policies we're undertaking. And so I think the
United States is facing the potential of serious changes in
the balance of forces in the region, because our relationship
is changing with the two states that are most important to us,
which has which has potential in what kind of areas all kinds of
areas
across the region. Because our relationship with Saudi Arabia
and Egypt, we have been the dominant force for the last 50
years within the Arab context. There has been no rivals, the
Soviet Union is gone. Russia is there, but no one has been able
to rival us. If these relationships were to change,
the American role in the region would be reduced. We're still
the world's most important power. We still will be
important there. But our position will be different. But
one part of that relationship clearly is military. You were
able to talk to some US official military officials
or former military officials. It's been the crucial military
relationship along with the US relationship with Moses lady.
This is the woman that used to be one of the anchors on the
News Hour, and now they shoved her out into the field. And
she's become a correspondent it's the it's MARGARET WARNER
that would kind of separate you know, the woman with the eyes to
close your eyes or to close that. So the Gates Foundation
said, you know, she's not presentable as a get her off.
And that's exactly what happened. Bill went,
she doesn't look hot. Get her off. Yeah, that's how it goes.
People
in the region says The early 50s The US is the major arms
supplier to Saudi Arabia. It has a commitment to protect the
kingdom, the kingdom has always regarded that as as a bulwark of
their, of their position there. So for Saudi Arabia, the US
still maintains despite and a very ostentatious withdrawal of
US forces after the first Gulf War, still maintains a presence
there to train and equip and, and manage the weaponry that we
sell to Saudi Arabia.
That's the we read that all the time on the show where there's
another two $3 billion sale, and it's like $1 million of, of
needles and then $1.9 billion other. Yeah, that's what that is
told.
There's a two star general there that the US helps train the
Saudi National Guard, one job of that, which is to protect the
Saudi royal family, on the other hand, so it's hard to know where
they would go for all of this weaponry. On the other hand, to
the US, it's also very important. They were an
important ally in the first Gulf War, the role was a little
murkier in the second Gulf, second Iraq war, they publicly
took a neutral stance, but there have been reports that they were
helpful in that there have been reports unconfirmed, of secret
US drone bases in Saudi Arabia more recently, because the US
and Saudi Arabia still share the goal of combating jihadi
terrorism so it's hard to see how that military relationship
gets extricated. But if the political bonds do then, you
know, who knows?
Did you say he hottie I don't know maybe sound like jihadi
sounds like he Hi. Yeah. Okay. Well, that'd be very interesting
to watch.
Well, the Yeah, the the kind of the interesting thing about
there's there was a number of aspects to that, but I think I
think you're on there's a couple of things going on. I think that
we'll we'll follow up on this and it will find that there's a
there's something up and it's the only explanation is the
Chinese.
It's always the Chinese
guys are their babies big country. Got lots of people.
Yeah, yeah. All right. Big props to you, John C. Dvorak. As we
were talking about the fires in Australia. And, in fact, I just
approve. I pulled the clip that you played from false Koen van
comm
that van cat event Rankin
cars bang. And here it is.
In Australia, the country's military says it's investigating
whether major bushfires are linked to an explosives training
exercise on its land. Well, and
John and not only did you put us on the path, you are completely
right. Now I want to remind everybody that these bushfires
are this started early. It's October. So and this is the
Australia goes into its summer. And what was weird about this is
this the first time the fires were all near Sydney, and here
is the mayor of the of the region. Whenever you don't know
what you're talking about, just say the region. That's how we do
it news, talking about how this actually was started by the
military.
Nick Greenhill, a few moments ago, the RFS put out a statement
confirming that the state mine fire near lisco was started as a
result of live ordnance exercises on Moran guru army
range, the fire started on Wednesday. There were no total
fire bans at the time, the statement points out in view of
what you've just said about what your community's been through
and the efforts of the firefighters over the past week.
How do you feel about that revelation? Look, not happy.
Okay,
so he's not happy, but I have not happy now. But of course,
that didn't stop the usual suspects before this news came
out. And by the way, this will be the only media programme that
will call these eight holes on it. Let's see. Al Gore. Mr.
Gore,
we're also having something of a national debate about the
connection between climate change and bushfires. And the
Australian Prime Minister has said in the last couple of hours
that bushfires are a function of life in Australia, and nothing
to do with climate change. What do you make of those remarks?
Well, it's not my place to get involved in your politics. But
it reminds me of politicians here in the United States, who
got a lot of support from the tobacco companies and who argued
to the public
out it wasn't started by global warming and that there was
absolutely
no connection between smoking cigarettes and lung cancer and
for 40 years So the tobacco companies were able to douchebag
Oh yeah. Don't worry to persuade pliant politicians within their
grip to public what they wanted to them to tell them. And for 40
years, the tragedy continued tragic. bushfires can occur
naturally and do. But the science shows clear that when
the temperature goes up, and when the vegetation and soils
dry out, then wildfires become more pervasive and more
dangerous. That's not me saying it. That's what the scientific
community says. Look it up. It's science. That's right.
So of course, he looks kind of stupid in hindsight, but not as
stupid as both Christiana Amanpour Well, I used to like a
lot as a journalist. And then she went to you go to ABC and
then she went back to CNN and something happened
while she went out she was for a while she was on the 60 minute
show she showed that she really couldn't handle that level.
I think what happened is you're right they saw that she really
she had a whole thing going on, you know the the Arab vibe and
you know, she No, no, she has she had something going on and
it just fell apart on
her because she didn't really have it.
Shops Yeah, well, or maybe just the warranty expired on
something weird. So she is with a new puppet on the scene who
was who was now out there with a new climate change
communication. UN climate chief Christiana? Fig wetness. I think
that's how you pronounce your name. And have you seen this
woman?
No, she is very speller. Last name
I think it's f i g u e r e. S let me see Christiana be Gu
arrest. UN climate chief. She's kind of like a you know, like an
IMF. Woman. What's her name? Come on. Your daughter.
Yeah. She got the shorthand or is this Jean Christophe Figaro?
No, this is Karen Christiana Figaro at us.
Glarus? It's a figure row at a me She is the
executive secretary of the United Nations Framework
Convention on Climate Change also known as the UNFCCC
finder,
Christiana for gratis if you google it that name Christiana.
Nothing are you you're bringing in, aren't you? No, I'm
not bringing it I don't mean it. Sometimes after midnight, maybe.
Oh.
Alright, so you've got a picture now you see her? I have she's a
total she's the only one
I got Christian figure eight. What do you Oh, there she is she
the woman with the scarf. She's the one it looks like she should
be an upper class twit. That one or she the wall? No. There's
another one is a bunch of these people. Oh, she's
the same woman. The one with a blue shirt and the scarf like a
like a KLM. Stewardess?
Yeah, she looks like a stewardess. But then if you Oh,
and then she looks like an old woman. And then she has a lot of
looks. She's got she's good for TV.
She's great for TV. She has professional experience. See
Minister counsellor at the Embassy of Costa Rica in Bonn in
Germany, very good. directed the work of all departments of the
embassy. Okay, return to code. She's from Costa Rica. Actually.
She was named director of international cooperation in the
Ministry of Planning of God would a dream job and the
Ministry of Planning. We're gonna plan something. She and
her husband moved to DC. I wonder what her husband does?
Don't see here. He must be doing something. Yeah. Okay. Anyway,
so now she's a muckety muck and she's out there. And she's
promoting climate change what we need to do about it. And she and
Christiana on poor got sucked into the bushfires, fires
but also the politics behind trying to figure out climate
change. First and foremost, is there a link between climate and
wildfires brush fires?
Oh, well, John, as a as Undersecretary of the United
Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, what would your
answer be? We're all gonna die.
Yes, there is absolutely. Now the MO The World Meteorological
organisation has not established the direct link between this
wildfire and climate change yet.
Okay. Not yet, yet. In fact, they didn't because it was set
up by the military. However, what is
absolutely clear, is the science is telling us that there are
increasing heat waves in Asia, Europe and Australia, that these
will continue that they will continue in their intensity and
in their frequency. So what we've just seen on the screen is
an example of what we may be looking at unless we take
Excellent. Ah,
okay rigorous action, somebody money with Cap and Trade well,
so it's very nice that she's on, I appreciate her being on the
show, because she is giving us the new talking point. And the
talking point is, well, of course, we need to price carbon,
right? Because if we then price it, then we can trade it. And
then we can do all these all these. It's a financial
instrument. And it's just an it's another way of printing
money, essentially, here's this thing. I think that's actually
correct. Here's the thing, we all exhale it, but only certain
people get to count it, and it's going to have a price on it. And
that will be a commodity that you can trade. And whenever
there's trading, just look at the stock market today. There's
billions, if not trillions of money of monies to be made. We
need more
vehicles need this. And another, that would be the way you'd say
it. You don't have enough trading vehicles. And this one's
a gem. This
Thank you, John. Yeah, this is why we do the show together.
It's another trading vehicle. And the meme is pure already
praying the price for climate change.
You're saying though, by not having the carbon tax, it could
have the same effect on people
or what? Because the math is we are already as you have just
pointed out, we are really already paying the price of
carbon.
Okay, so here's the idea. We're paying the militia with paying
the price. What do we need to give a shit? Well listen to what
she's already paying the price. Just listen, just listen
closely.
We're paying the price with wildfires. We're paying the
price for droughts, we're playing the the the price with
so many other disturbances to the hydrological cycle that
disturbances to the hydrological cycle. Okay, wait, wait, wait
for it, it is all the price that we're paying. So what we need to
do is put a price on carbon so that we don't have to continue
to pay the price of carbon.
Did you hear what she just said?
It was my favourite that again, she's just crazy what she says
we need to put a price on carbon. So we don't need to pay
the price of carbon
on carbon so that we don't have to continue to pay the price of
carbon. Wow, that's good. And that is all the price that we're
paying to talk about, what we need to do is put a price on
carbon so that we don't have to continue to pay the price of
carbon. And in fact, what you have just seen on the screen is
one scenario, Christiane and it is a scenario that we would walk
toward, unless we take, as I say, vigorous action. But there
is another scenario. And this
scenario she's pointing to is the is a big, huge fire. Just
Sodom and Gomorrah on the screen of fire,
what we have seen are just introductions to the doom and
gloom, doom and gloom facing. But that's not the only
scenario.
It's just an introduction, this fire you see, that's just an
introduction. Wait until you meet Satan,
we could as humankind, we could take vigorous action, and we
could have a very, very different scenario. That's a
scenario that is worth examining. Well,
oh. And then I'll wind it up with a, she has a phrase here,
which two phrases actually. And I Googled this, and I couldn't
really find what she's talking about.
But what about then the trying to convince people that this is
something that you actually have to tackle quickly before it
becomes irreversible? What is the timeline that we as
reversals for
the last decade, according to these people?
How much time do we have John?
It's too late. Let's just give up.
Before this becomes irreversible,
we have very little time very little, very little.
In fact, what would you look at the time, gotta go,
the important thing is that we still have time, although, in as
much as we delay, we are closing the window in and on and on, on
ourselves. But we do have time, what we know is that we have to
reach global peaking, that means we have to get to the maximum
current
global peaking. Now, tell me if you can find global peaking and
then this next raise,
the trajectory of emissions is still going up. We're still
rising. So we have to get to the global peaking point this decade
and then begin our trajectory down as opposed to up which is
where we are and we have to get to zero net emissions, zero net
emissions non zero emissions, but zero net emissions. Oh, they
change
the oil Bill Gates meme
zero net emission. You can Google this all you want. I
can't find a straight answer on zero net emissions and global
peaking. Global
peaking What is this was some of that they're gonna they're gonna
make it up as they go along. This would be like Peak Oil.
Okay, so her husband is Conrad von Ritter. Heil World Bank.
Aha. Oh, no.
Now let me read this. From a I'm going to read you something from
this.
Wait a minute, hold on a second. You're telling me that the lady
who was out there pushing the next financial vehicle is
married to a guy who works Is he big at the bank?
I'm gonna as I can't tell yet, but he's at the bank and he's
sitting in is this is from 2007 when they were worried sick
because it was near the end then this was an event at a meeting
called the earth negotiations bulletin. And that's where it's
published a special report on the selected site events of the
26 sessions of the subsidiary bodies, SB 26, of the United
Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. So he's in on
this deal, and here's what he says, when they're doing this
synopsis of the meeting of a bunch of guys sitting a bunch of
12345678 guys on the Dyess Conrad von Ritter World Bank
said that in a response to CDM barriers, and CDM barriers, I
don't know what that means. I'm gonna look it up. I'm talking,
but it's got some to do with Africa, the World Bank developed
a carbon finance assistance probe. Africa, with the support
of a number of bilateral donors, noted that the programme focuses
on overcoming barriers providing institutional capacity. A lot of
this is both
Oh CDM John, Clean Development mechanisms.
Okay, got it. Engaging finance and private sector
participation. So they're trying to Buffalo the Africans into
buying in on all this because they're still burning, like
stuffing the, you know, burning pieces of wood in their houses.
Interesting. Now, I'm going to look into this a little more
this group,
I just like to say something because we get a lot of flack
that we are anti science.
Oh, we're not your science. We're Republicans. I was
actually a chemist, I'm actually trained as a scientist. And I
was also an inspector for the air pollution district. I'm
actually trained. I'm a I'm actually a scientist, I've got
to, you know, I took it in college. I did it for a living.
These people aren't, does say this about us. They're just,
they're a bunch of guys who get degrees in English. So can I buy
anything that'll hook line and sinker, they soak it up? I just
want to
understand, you were trained as a chemist, you studied chemistry
in college. You are an air pollutions inspector for the
People's Republic of California.
I was also a chemist per se and analytic chemistry, union oil
and analytic chemists for union oil. It makes total sense that
you are you're on the payroll still. Clearly, you are still on
the US. Does union oil still exist? Who is union oil
it now it's Unocal better? It was a shame that it was a great
company. But i i I've said this before on the show a number of
years ago, I'll say it again. The oil companies they would
lecture us every so often do you have a big meeting and they'd
show us all the slides about why we had to go to unleaded
gasoline This was during that era. And they they were the oil
companies, at least from what I could tell unless there were
somebody in the back room saying laughing to themselves. They
were all in on the peak oil idea. 100% in
so I have read the IPCC reports, we have deconstructed some of
that on the show where possible, the science is not in these are
models, the models have been proven wrong to date, the n n
all that is said is oh well, you know, we got better models. Now.
Those are computers from five years ago. Now we have new
computers. So so far, the models have been wrong. This is all
predictive. This is not science. This is computer predictive
models. The same models that have predicted many other
interesting things such as where the volcanic ash would be, oh,
boy, the skies over Europe were never so blue. It was beautiful.
But that was a botch what we're seeing
and what we're pointing out and I'm all for keeping the world
clean. And of course, I want nuclear. I'm the guy that Oh,
I'm sorry. That's all going to kill us with radiation. Get your
iodine everybody there in California. You're all gonna get
John Jager iodine cuz you're gonna die. You're gonna die. The
cloud is coming. I've seen it. I've seen it on the web. What we
take offence, literally offence to is this this financial
vehicle that had they've been trying to create Al Gore has
started this he had the carbon exchange, he was a co investor
in the carbon exchange. That all got thwarted because things just
didn't work out. He continues to try. I'm all for a cleaner
world. But the the co2 emission, taking that and turning it into
a financial vehicle. When there's little proof of what
it's really doing, just supposition and predictive
models. I can't get on board with that. I just can't
you know, it's fun. Honey is that the same people? I don't
know if you're actually communicating this message to
the Dreyfus girl who's not listening by the way
is she is I guarantee you she is
is the is the idea that these people that are all you know
it's science it's not debatable if Devon Bush is doing you did
clip you won't play anymore which is the Mollywood clip I
have it somewhere is that Dale there go they're all in on this
and things like air power and wind power and all the solar
power and every all these alternative things. But the
science is also in on nuclear. Me It is on I mean, it's been
studied to death. And there are there are products you can buy
small nukes that you can put in a neighbourhood and power the
neighbourhood for the next 120 years with using up as much
energy as you want almost free. And they are none of them are in
on that they're all good, this dangerous, we're all gonna die.
And they listen to the phoney baloney reports on Fukushima,
which everybody knows we get a lot. We have a lot of nuclear
engineers that listen to the show. Not a lot. But we have
more than a typical show. And they're always feeding us
information telling us what these bogus reports are all
about. And it's all just deep to push everyone to natural gas. I
mean, that's like the big things where we can blow up all the
shale beds and around the world
follow the money. That's where the money is. You don't want if
you if you are running a big energy company, do you think for
one second, that the the the boss, the big evil bosses with
the white pussies, they're stroking all day at the oil
companies that they give a rat's ass whether what they're selling
you as long as they can sell it to you if they could really make
money off of nuclear. They've been doing it. But that's the
problem. Nuclear you put a little football in there goes
for 50 years. And it's like, oh, well, we can't keep selling
stuff over and over and over again. So what is the next
logical thing? And And conspiratorially Speaking I've
I've always been suspicious of that tsunami.
Play might play the oil shale commercial, I got a new little
meme mini meme in there that I think is kind of cool.
Americans are asking just what will our energy future look
like? Well, it could look very bright. New technologies are
safely unlocking vast domestic supplies of oil and natural gas
like energy from shale. And with smart policies, we can create
even more great jobs and could generate billions to fund
schools, roads and other services. So what does all that
look like? A secure energy future for generations to come?
Live on to learn more.
So the determinant that I thought was interesting, and I
think maybe JC or somebody noticed that immediately is
energy from shale. gas from shale, right. And the term
fracking fracking, of course, can't be used in such a
commercial public service announcement. But energy from
shale. Ooh, you can get energy from shale I'm sure a lot of
people are all Oh, ooh, energy from shale. Yeah, yeah, I've
heard of something like that. Yeah,
it's called steam. That's called steam.
It's not steam is the gas that comes out when they frack the
shale? Bro.
That's your energy from shale? Oh yeah.
Yes, fracking your fractus shales down there by the way
they had a graphic but what do you think barely is near the
core of the Earth at so far? Well, you
still burn it to create energy.
Oh, yeah, in the long run, yeah. But they they're referring to as
it's a fracking you frack the shale you pull out the natural
gas and then burn it and make steam which gets the same thing
a nuke does without all the work
yeah. And you know, we're looking at thorium cesium all
these will thorium I think is really this thorium is the hot
you got the breeder reactors that eat their own poop? Isn't
there's no there's no waste. But you get like guys I respect like
Joe Rogan who's tweeting out stuff that was the tweet he sent
here. Headline 28 signs the West Coast is being absolutely fried
with nuclear radiation from Fukushima. This is the problem
is weird. And it's actually it's beautiful. The way this this is
going if you're on the big oil, big gas side is even the people
in alternative media are so suspect of their government
lying. They think that reason yes, that there's some big cover
up about nuclear. And let me tell you, Germany, they're on a
collision course with this own vendor, I think is what they
call it. Shut down all the nuclear plants. They're
subsidising everything I had a conversation with they're gonna
go broke doing
this but yes, they are. I had a conversation not bought into
this. No. But listen, here's the here's the conversation. Here's
our ghost. I'll say look, solar and wind. It just doesn't add up
it you know, it costs more to Make and it just, you know it's
not profitable. And here's what you hear you, my neighbours are
selling their energy back to the energy company and they're
making money. Like it's all subsidised. This is what people
understand. It's all there are windmills, them. In fact, most
of these giant windmills are their own LLC with investors.
You can buy into a windmill, and it's a bonanza because of the
subsidies.
But the government gives you money to do it. Then there was
the same thing with the solar stuff in California, when they
were subsidising it by I think 33% of the total cost. Yeah, you
could actually make the calculations showing that you do
a little better than you would without the without the solar so
you'd make it out. You'd save a few bucks on your PG and E bill.
But then once they pulled the plug on that, which they did.
Now there's you can't rationalise it and nobody's
putting any solar gear out
of it. Zero. So, tell your friends here at the no agenda
show we're not anti science. Not Republicans.
Say bullcrap. You want to look up something funny. Yet you
Google it? You're Google going?
Can I use Bing? No, I
think Google's better okay. And type in windmill fires. Yeah,
you're seeing these giant?
No, these are these are the ones that you can Yeah, no, of course
I've seen these are the ones you buy. You buy and they catch on
fire commonly. Yes. Because of the friction. Yeah, two moving
parts. A lot of stuff. A lot of fires is what's going on that
you look at. You go to images and then type images and
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science that you that you said I won't play? Which of course I
will. I just can't find what you called it.
I don't think I called it twit.
Maybe science?
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this twit plays you can't watch one of your clips. Um, now it's
your
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my clip. Naming stinks. Yeah. Yeah. It tends to stink and I
feel bad about it. So it's a little hard to I mean, I got a
lot of these clip names or just make no I look at it myself.
Here I'm doing the show with you. And I'm looking at the clip
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You know, I don't care about how you name clips, but some of
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Yeah, well, this one we're not going to read in this entirety.
Because it is, though Mazal just name that thing, Warren.
But that's what we do for our execs and associate execs but,
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A question at hand, the book of knowledge reports that no agenda
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thought to describe the Icelandic situation which was a
bunch of drunks lousiest food in the world.
Women Are they hot? Oh, the women are
terrific. They're all beautiful. I think. If there's a beautiful
and every woman in Iceland is like gorgeous and they're all
tall redhead or blonde. Nice. And so I had all these
generalisations he told me I was I was at least 10 years, which
is when I went to Iceland about 10 years ago, I said 10 years
behind the times he says, for one thing, the Icelanders and I
find, by the way, find this incredibly hard to believe,
having eaten there, that the Icelanders have become the
forefront of the foodie movement in the northern climes, and
there's like you get really great food in Iceland now
apparently is a bunch of famous chefs. And there's all of this I
also bitched about the expressionist art that was so
popular because that stuff's gone by the wayside and then my
would really disappointed me as I said, Well you know, in
Iceland you when you take when you're in the hotel or wherever
you are, you take a shower and they they run the geyser water
through the hot water side and you get sprayed with the
sulfuric water. It's so two comes off of it and you stink.
You smell like just stink. He says that ended so I'm sick and
she's
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Yeah, I mean, all the good stuff has gone by the way, I will
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me? Oh spa. Okay. All right, I
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How does that sound? That's pretty much what we do. Yeah.
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I cut my thumb to
John, a couple of things. I got a couple of shorties before you
go on already. Kabul shorties this is just news that people
need to know about. Brunei goes Sherea is one of the interesting
little stories that popped up. Salt the Brunei way before it
came up. Sorry. Yeah, I was just saying that. Since you're
stalled there. I was gonna set it up a little bit with the
Sultan of Brunei we have to remember you once. extol is the
richest man in the world. He was the guy was always on Lifestyles
of the Rich and Famous and would fly what's his name around, got
booked, apparently a lot of hookers or something. And he's
the guy who built the kitchens for the last sort restaurant in
Manhattan, because that's where he eats when he comes into town.
And now this,
the oil kingdom of Brunei will soon be under Islamic criminal
law. The ruling Sultan announced today that enforcement of the
Sharia penal code will begin in six months. Penalties include
amputations for convicted thieves and stoning for those
who commit adultery. Brunei already bans the sale of alcohol
and evangelism by other religions. It's the
Texas of Saudi Arabia as a place we got to visit. We got to go
and put a big cork in my face so I don't say anything wrong.
And then there's a story that was kind of odd, which I had
never heard about the Bishop of bling and but apparently some
some guy I got by the way is very weird looking. But he's the
Bishop of bling in Germany. Yeah, and he I guess, I guess
the I guess he finally got called out by the pope because
the Pope is a Jesuit for the poor. You know,
this guy. Pope's taking the bus to work.
Our instant index begins with Lifestyles of the Rich and holy,
some tough love from Pope Francis today suspending the so
called Bishop of bling, who flew first class spent 14 $2 million
to renovate his home in Germany, and even had a $20,000 bathtub.
He was summoned to the Vatican for face to face with the Pope.
But tonight the Vatican will not say how long that suspension
will last. Again. Thanks. I'm Don.
It's funny. This was one of those throwaway reports that
everyone reported on the bathtub went from 10,000 to 15,000 to
20,000. Do people need to be ashamed of yourselves with all
the stupid bullcrap news there's a real news.
And here's another thing that's going on, which I still have.
You're in Texas, so you must have picked up on this because
it's gotta be all over the news in Texas. I have never I think
it's a hoax that got out of control. And you just tweeted
that it was which is this idea that there's some lame football
team in Texas that law high school that lost two into one of
the championship teams because Texas got a lot of really great.
Yeah, high school football games 91 to nothing and supposedly,
some parents sued the coach in the No
no, no, no, no. That's not Do you have a clip when someone
says sued? No,
no, no, I'm telling you this is the meme. I'm not but they say
it all over the here I didn't think I needed a clip that's all
they talked about on all the talk shows. But they there's no
way this is a bullshit Don't worry,
I have the story here.
Running the ball into the endzone, only those cats Friday
made one touchdown after another, winning their game 91
to nothing.
That's a cremation as what that is. I wish at some point they
can say okay, game over. Why even finish it?
A parent for the opposing team for orts Western Hills
considered it more than just a painful loss Aledo ISD says he
filed an official complaint online against it entire
coaching staff for bullying
that's what really happened
fine so that got out of control from some gauges bitching online
Yeah, he
went on the school website remember we had those forms and
he filled out the form and said the entire coaching staff and
bullied and then
I'm glad you're in Texas because we could not I dug and dug and
dug I could not I knew this was a bowl craft.
This is just to make Texans look stupid.
Well, I think it has to I think it has two purposes. I think it
definitely makes Texas look stupid. But that's a common
thing that that goes on. You get used to it. I know people in
Texas that say that y'all when anyone news thing happens in
Texas the news media comes in finds the dumbest, Toothless guy
they can find and asked for his opinion. She told me that that's
all she's ever seen on the news. She's been a lifelong Texas
person. True and well anyway, so that I knew this was good. I'm
glad that you got to the bottom of it because I was concerned.
The other the other reason for it is so all the right wing talk
shows can get all worked up about bullying is like you know,
this has gotten out of control. You know, there's terrible and
they wouldn't have the time. Yeah, moan and groan. Well,
let me throw a shorty out. Yeah, this is something that we have
discussed. We have prognosticated we have put in
the Red Book. We have held steadfast as fact, truth and the
way it is, for many, many many years and now someone finally
the survey
on the best podcast in the universe.
This is scientific Americans the 62nd Science, I'm Erica Barris
got a minute. The other side effects can
include internal haemorrhaging, heart eruption, brain rupture,
rabies, loss of
eyesight or smell medications come with a long list of
potential side effects. And that was study finds that the litany
of unpleasant consequences does not deter prospective
purchasers. In fact, those warnings might actually increase
drug sales. For the study subjects were shown two
different versions of ads for three different products,
cigarettes, artificial sweeteners, and medications. One
version of the ads clearly warned of potential perils, for
example, hair loss, weight gain or stroke. The other set of ads
were warning free, subjects who saw ads with warnings were
initially less likely to buy the products. But when surveyed
again, some time later, they were actually more likely to
make the purchase than were those who saw ads without the
warnings. The study is in the journal Psychological Science,
the researcher saying after some time goes viewers of the ads
interpret the listing of negative side effects as a show
of good faith, a sign of trustworthiness. Who would have
thought you could increase demand with nausea, diarrhoea,
flatulence, weight gain, migraines, mood swings, thanks.
There you go. We've always said no,
but this is not news. We discuss this we had years ago, but
they haven't No, this is a new survey. Oh, they approve it.
Yeah. However, if we had done the cert if we had done the
survey, we clearly would have put tongue protrudes in snake
like motion and anal leakage may occur.
You'd be like John Kerry. Yeah, what was his tongue? I
don't know. Man. He's freaky.
It sticks eyes a little bitty thin little snake like tiny and
it keeps him picking,
picking picking it out. Keeps sneaking out. I know it's a
little frightening.
I go okay, let me try this one on you. This is a good distance
store I know you didn't get and nobody in the country has gotten
is a local story. But I think it's a good one pepper spray
cop.
Former UC Davis police officer who pepper sprayed a row of
seated campus protesters will get more money out of it than
they did. A judge just approved a $38,000 worker's comp
settlement between John pike and the university. He claims that
he suffered depression and anxiety due to death threats.
And protesters each received $30,000 in damages.
You know the pepper spray cup the weather became a meme right?
Yeah, that guy he got he got he got more money than the kids
just psychologically burdened.
And what did we get? What do we get? We get called out as
Republicans and deniers. Here's a good one. Now can I do so
Something here
yeah after this Zuckerberg pay this is this is the this is the
sacrifice we're making. Listen what this guy does learn tonight
Mark
Zuckerberg makes $30,000 About every seven minutes. The
Facebook founders corporate compensation package last year
was worth a record breaking $2.3 billion
out right. Okay, whatever. I don't really don't care power to
him
saying just put things in perspective.
No, you know what? I'm over that. I personally I know you're
not I personally I know you. I know you're not. I know. I've
been to the mountaintop my friend. All right, go play your
I have been at the Global peaking. And I have learned that
you can. It's better to have zero net wallet. It's the way to
go. And I'm very successful at it.
We're doing a lot of zero peeking as it speaks global
peaking. What am I saying? Oh the one
this is from Gitmo nation lowlands. And this is an example
of how news media is just making people insane. Every single
year, it crops up again. But this year, there was a little
twist, the annual celebration. As you know John in the
Netherlands, there will never was a Santa Claus or a Father
Christmas, or some fat dude come down the chimney. Instead of the
25th of December. With the Santa Claus red suit elves reindeer,
the Dutch have seemed that a class and synthetic class comes
on December 5. That is his his big day. He's dressed like the
Pope, he rides on a white horse. And he has his helpers, the
black Pete's. And this of course, throughout the years of
Cultural Marxism, I'm sorry, multicultural integration has
become quite the issue with the politically correct a tradition
that has been going on for 170 years. It has to stop because of
course it's racist. And this, we've talked about this at least
three or four years in a row would you say?
Yeah, and sometimes in between.
So now there's a new twist to it as this as this pops up again. A
woman from the United Wait,
wait, stop, stop. Wait, how far back does this tradition go?
I think 170 years or something? Oh, okay,
this new then.
What do you mean, it's new? Yeah, it's really your
standards as new as new. Okay.
So what was new this year, is a woman by the name of Vereen
shepherd of the United Nations, actually, to be quite specific,
the United Nations working group working group of experts on
people of African descent, but we actually didn't know that
that was what she was in was just the woman from the United
Nations. And she sent on United Nations letterhead to the Prime
Minister of the Netherlands, a letter Your Excellency, we have
the honour to address you in our capacities as the Chair
rapporteur of the working group on people of African descent,
Special Rapporteur in the field of cultural rights, Independent
Expert on minority issues, Special Rapporteur on the
contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination,
xenophobia and related intolerance pursuant to Human
Rights Council resolution 1828 1966619633. And then I'll
skip a whole bunch. The character image of Black Pete
perpetuates a stereotype image of African people and people of
African descent as second class citizens. You gotta it's in the
show notes you can you gotta read. That's pretty
fun. Now I'm looking at Black Pete here, at least one version.
Yeah. And you think if the if they use actual Africans,
instead of guys in black face that might lay some of this?
Well, from the tradition you have, there's in the origins
really odd that there were two ravens who were who turned into
boys who then would go in and bring the kids presents. And the
reason why they're black is because they go down the
chimney. And that's why they got now it doesn't matter. The thing
is, it's a racial thing. But what she did an interview for
one of the main news, programmes on television, and it's at the
very end, where she gives it away that she's full of crap
because that, of course, is what I'm going to expose here. But
when you listen to this, this is how the United Nations or people
affiliated with the United United Nations go to work on
their own agenda. She's from Jamaica, by the way,
the working group cannot understand why it is that people
in the Netherlands cannot see that this is a throwback to
slavery. And that's in the 21st century, this practice should
stop
from what you're seeing right now I get the impression that
your mind already is made up as a black person,
I feel that I would if I were living in the Netherlands as a
black person, I would object to it. As as a, as a member of the
working group, I'm obliged to do further investigation. But as a
black person, I believe that if I lived in the Netherlands and
saw this, that I would object,
that's how independent can your investigation be, then, if you
come here,
but we can move around, you're going to you're going to it to
find out if what people are saying is really what is going
on. If we find out that our or our, our information is wrong,
then we will change our position. But the information we
have at this moment, from the people from the Netherlands who
come to our meeting and who have been sending complaints to us is
that it is racist. It is a throwback to slavery, and it
should not happen that is a complaint that has come to us.
So we are going to see is this so or is this not so? But you
are right person, my personal view is that in the 21st
century, this should not be happening. It seems that
I just want it before we get to this NBA where she gives herself
away. This is a cultural issue that the Netherlands itself
needs to decide. And it is a relatively small group of people
who are complaining from the former Dutch colony of Suriname,
I believe, half of whom I think now live in the Netherlands. And
there is they have been the ones that have legitimately been
complaining. But somehow they got this this numbskull from the
United so called United Nations to write this letter on UN
letterhead. And you'll hear it well. You already hear that
she's Yes.
Well, first of all, if Black Pete is a function of some guy
who is covered with soot, I don't get it. I'm not getting
this this, suddenly you can be covered with soot and B
but it's irrelevant. Like Pete, it's irrelevant. If the if the
culture changes all the time, if the Netherlands wants to make it
orange, pea or green peat, they can figure it out. We don't need
the United Nations or throwing around someone's huge un Dick
trying to tell us what to do.
Our Prime Minister is walking away from from the problem. He
says there are these cultural groups who keep this festival
high. It's not it's not government orientated. So we can
do anything about well,
then if the government if the Government feels it is wrong,
then they should tell the cultural groups to stop doing
it. The Prime Minister is has the has the the power to change
policy, and to influence a group that are keeping up this this
habit, the prime minister saying it's not government policy, it's
up to these cultural groups, then the Prime Minister, if the
Prime Minister believes it's wrong, should then influence
these cultural groups. It's offensive. We don't we don't go
around saying or when people look like this or where people
look like that. We don't do that. We don't do that. And what
is wrong with the one Santa Claus? Why do you have to have
two Santa Clauses? There
you go. Showing that she's a total moron. She actually thinks
there's two Santa Clauses in the Netherlands, the one that comes
on the 25th. And then this racist guy, by the way, nothing
about no dwarfs and little people and cruelty to animals
and whatever else but Vern Shepherd, Miss Vern Shepherd
actually worked for the Institute of gender and
Development Study. She's a consultant, and she misuse this
letterhead because she happens to be a member of a working
group that's very similar to the Presidential Innovation Fellows.
Okay. What she really is a part of is the Caribbean nations
slavery compensation programme. And this is what she's after.
This is why she's a consultant. There is a movement to go and
this just happened in the UK. I had to pay money to descendents
of colonies for slavery. This is a new thing that's happening.
That I have it here. Mao Mao, was Mao Mao, John Mao, Mao, Mao,
Mao, Mao, was a British,
British or an Africa. I don't know what you're talking about.
The Mao Mao, is that Africa? Well, as well, it's all about
compensating people who were slaves.
They didn't compensate. They should make those some of those
African tribes who put these guys into slavery, compensate
him to cap
But that's not how it works with the guilt. So what she's after
is getting money, I believe that is getting money for the former
Dutch colonies in the West Indies. Remember, she's from
Jamaica from the West Indies. So she stirred up this thing and
you have no idea how this got so out of control. There are people
yelling on television in Holland. There's there's there's
guys going like Santa Claus. It's fake children. I mean, it's
seven o'clock at night. Just to prove a point people are
freaking out about this. And everyone has an opinion. And it
all started with this woman. I mean, it started a long time
ago, of course, but it's a cultural issue that the
Netherlands can change if they want but this this, this verge
Vereen, Verne, Vereen, Shepherd of the United Nations, you hear
how they come in? You hear how they talk, even though she has
no standing whatsoever? This is the stuff you got to be careful
of.
Interesting. All right. Well, I got a couple of things. You want
to wrap up? A couple of short items, if you want to hear
something short. Yeah. Well, let's see. There's a
environmental media awards were given out with a bunch of
celebrities. But here's the here's the other one. You heard
about the Face Book and the beheadings videos? Yeah, I've
heard it. What is this all about?
Facebook announced today, it's working on new ways to warn
users about graphic violence on its site. Social media giant
issued the statement after an uproar over videos that show
beheadings, Facebook banned such videos in May but recently
lifted the prohibition Yeah.
No sideboob. But you can't
have site booze? Yeah, there's a bunch of things they won't let
you do on Facebook, which is another reason not to be a
member. But what is the thing would be headings, you got to
have a unit of air. This is you know, this all infidels should
have their heads chopped off here. Let me show you a video.
It's disgusting. It's
great. I think we should do that here. And Why kill people with
an injection? That's No, that's no good.
Maybe that's what the French had. That's why they invented
the guillotine. Always, always work. You didn't have the
incompetent head shop. And it's Quist a couple of times. And
it's quick. Yes.
It's quit in a bucket. What state
was talking about bringing back the gas chamber because they
can't get the drugs? No. It's hard to get lethal injection
drugs anymore.
Yeah, because they're contaminated. Yeah. Yeah.
And people die really slowly and horribly. I think the good
guillotine is a good idea.
So I have a clip of the you know, the woman behind Obama
that passed out as a news story that's been floating around and
everybody's seen it and it's about the patch on the back of
her arm and all this other stuff. I have a clip that has
one little tidbit of information that got my attention. And I'm
going to doesn't ask him you have to tell me what little
tidbit in this clip got my attention.
President Obama had to pause near the end of his remarks when
as you can see this woman standing behind him there on the
read nearly fainted. Carmel Allison became a little wobbly
after 25 minutes of standing. In a telephone interview this
afternoon, Allison said dehydration as well as being
diabetic and pregnant all took their toll.
And 20 weeks pregnant at this point, and I hadn't had that
much to drink that morning because I was worried about
possibly needing to go to the bathroom during the speech. So I
wanted to avoid that. And then just as the sun hit me, I got a
little bit lightheaded. But everything is okay now and back
to normal.
She won't forget that visit to the White House. She was treated
by the White House physician. The President joked This is what
happens when he talks too long. Ellison lives in San Diego. She
graduated from UC Berkeley. She was there representing the
American Diabetes Association
at today's event.
Well, there's a couple of things. And this is one of those
things. I typically stay away from it because it's such Oh,
she's playing with the teleprompter.
So the teleprompter could be there. Let me
let me let me give you my view. And then I want to hear what you
have to say. I clearly saw the woman next to her nudge her,
like give her an elbow. Just before it happened. I have no
idea how the President knew what was happening. I looked over I
didn't didn't see anyone say anything. There was a
teleprompter because I saw the teleprompter in the Rose Garden.
Oh,
there's always a telephone. Yeah.
I frankly, I don't give a shit. But I'm interested to hear what
you have to say.
University of California Berkeley. Oh, boy. Yeah. Well,
spook Central. Yeah,
yeah, I hadn't I hadn't heard that one.
Yeah, I've only heard it on that one report.
She actually doesn't even have Obamacare.
She doesn't she doesn't she doesn't need it. She had the
White House
Doctor helper. She has she has health care.
As healthcare from the agency, yeah.
Speaking of which, the Free University of Brussels is
starting a study if you are a stutterer. Guess what we're
going to try and give you now. Money Ritalin.
Oh, yeah, that makes you stutter twice. This
might work. It might work. Alright, so stuff I'm working on
for Sunday. There's a lot going on with about the Silk Road.
It's it seems more and more like something is wrong with this
bust. We have not heard anything that
they're trying to sweep it under the carpet.
Well, either that or there is a there's a whole Reddit right
now. Where the discussion is that it's possibly a hoax by
multiple multiple people involved, including some people
from Gawker, actually, in fact, if you look at the two people
who've done any reporting on Silk Road is the guy from Forbes
and the and a guy from Gawker. And if you wanted to steal a
whole bunch of bitcoins from somebody, the way to do it, of
course, is to have a whole bunch of bitcoins in escrow, and then
shut it down. I don't know. No, I'm
okay. Well, I'm sure you'll have more on this. I have dug into
the because it's just galls me, because I get and I brought this
up in a couple of those at a meeting the other day and some
buddies, is this a meeting when you were texting me and I had no
idea what you're talking about?
Yes. So I bring it out here, I've got to the bottom of kale
comes out of the out of a group out of the public relations
agency that promotes kales out of the UK, I'm found a an
American analogue, even though I have I have notes into the
agency to tell me but they won't say anything. And I found all I
found the talking points and everything else and you bring up
Kale with anybody. And they all go right down to talking points,
you could actually put a little card in your pocket and pull it
out and show him that what they just told you is right off the
list. Oh no. And the top of the list is of course, as soon as
you bring up Kale with anybody who's been propagandised by why
anybody would promote this inedible piece of crap. brassica
is beyond me. But they all say the same thing. Right off the
bat. The first thing they say is super food.
Oh, really? Yeah. Super food.
Yeah, they all say it is amazing. It's astonishing how
many people will throw that immediately right back. And they
will tell you how great it is. They don't cook it. They never
use it. But they also have their opinion of it. I believe that
the whole thing is is to lead us into making a normal vegetable.
One of the things that we're going to be eating commonly
cavalo Nero. And I'll leave it at that.
I'm sorry. What did you what was that? What did you say? cavalo.
Yeah,
you've never heard of it. Have you? Is that what putting it in
the Red Book?
Is that what kale is cavalo Nero
de valo Nero is also known as dinosaur kale or black kale is
out of Tuscany and it's actually edible.
Okay, but where's the angle? Is this a really cheap vegetable
that is being sold as some douchebag a superfood to make a
lot of money,
not the Kabbalah Nero That's an expensive one the regular kale
is that let's face it, try cooking it this week.
Now that we have I am as you know, not a big fan of kale
however, there is one salad that Miss Miki gets sometimes from
the twigs and branches shop, which that's what they eat over
there and twigs and branches. And she brings that home and it
has a particular dressing, which of course is what makes it work.
That is delicious. And I'm going to what is the name of that I'm
going to I'm going to write I'm going to write it down on
Sunday. I'll tell you what it is. And that I find highly
edible somehow the combination with the kale in that dressing
works. It's almost like
this is the kind of length do you have to go to to actually
choke down? Yeah,
but believe me that women have bought into this as superfood. I
mean,
oh, no, they're all in on. They all say the same thing. When you
bring it up superfood. Is there any? Oh, it's delicious. They
all say is delicious. Is there
any evidence to this that it's a superfood or is it turns out
and I got to research, it turns out that they have studied
brassicas in general, which are the cabbage family, and the
cabbage family has all kinds of variants and they're all very
nutritious in every sort of way. Kale is just a member of the
family but it's been singled out as something special. When it's
not. It's the probably the most to the worst of the group. It's
the worst. It's the worst.
Can you mention five types of kale? Oh, there's black
kale. There's dinosaur kale, there's red kale, there's
Russian kale. There As in the Russian Red and the curly kale
and then the
grape kale is my favourite. Right? So cavolo nero the black
cabbage, that's the one of dinosaur cavalo Cabo,
that's the one and Kabbalah. I'm a big deal in the foodie
community. And I put my name on the initial the prediction.
Okay, well, and you've never heard of it, but you will know.
I see it in
the book of knowledge here. What?
This is what the whole kale thing is leading up to that's
why it's happening.
The whole thing is leading up to a new category.
Yeah. Nice arrow. It's it's apparently been eaten in Italy
forever. Okay.
Well, John, let me say in advance. Happy anniversary.
Happy anniversary to you, Adam curry. And thank you for your
courage. And thanks for your courage, Adam curry,
and thank you everyone who checked in on the live stream
and saying, sending karma there to Mr. Oil, who apparently has
been listening to the show while on morphine.
Oh, that must be an experiment. He shouldn't be sharing
is what I'm thinking. All right, everybody. Well, that'd be
exciting on Sunday, celebrating our sixth anniversary. Please
remember us at devora.org/na a sack of sixes would do just
nice. Don't be a Black Pete. Coming to you from the capital
of the drone star states. Austin, Texas in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's actually garbage
today. I'm John C. Dvorak. We
will talk again on Sunday. When we move into our seventh year
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We've got to focus on the macaroni and cheese issues. And
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