And then she found that she was the spawn of Satan. Adam curry,
John C. Dvorak. It's
Thursday, October 17 2013. Time feud Gitmo nation media
assassination episode 557. This
is no agenda. Running the
sickbay here in the traverse is hot out in the capital of the
drilling stars. We are in Austin J Haas in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where if you didn't take the
garbage out, it's too late. I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg Laden was
killed. Yeah, there's a train going by.
What happens? There's trucks trains the ghetto Beep beep beep
Hey, man, this stuff is bad here at the Travis heights hideout.
What happened? Miss Mickey is not well.
Oh, hold on a second. Let me close the window.
Yeah, that'll help her.
She feel better now.
Let me check. Yes, instantaneous results. Now she's got some some
weird kind of flu man. This is not good.
Oh, you guys should have loaded up on vitamin d3 When you had
the chance. And yeah, it's
all it's all come but it's this is a weird one where she has a
kind of like a semi dry cough accent okay, it's less like a
flu and more like one of your favorite afflictions, which is
spontaneous human combustion.
She hasn't blown up yet. She's
getting pretty close. She runs a little fever now and then but
then in the middle of the night, you'd be like, Oh, just throw
off all everything has to go and she she's like, Oh, I'm in my
everything's too hot. Everything's too hot. And you
feel her like legs and and her body is just like, you know,
keep the gasoline away. Yeah, so I don't know. It's a weird kind
of flu.
It sounds like the doctor has one of those could be one of
those crazy funguses or something that you haven't seen
these desert areas? Give me an A you could be more like a valley
fever here in California.
I have no idea what valley fever is? Oh, you should look
it up a lot of California is and especially people that weren't
raised in California can get get the sinkhole valley fever. And
it's from the dust that when you have the certain times of the
year when the when all the climate changes blows? Well,
yeah, climate changes, it changes
during the year. Okay, just the regular climate change. Yes, of
course. And the wind is all of a sudden blowing out of the
Central Valley. It brings us these spores into San Francisco
Bay area, for example, and from like Fresno, and you get these
things in your lungs and next thing you know, you get funguses
grown inside. Yeah. And you end up with this flu like symptoms
is called Valley fever is really good son of a bitch to get rid
of. Yeah, well, we have
Cedar here in Austin, which I don't think is hit yet. And I
know that that gets to her. But this is these are different
symptoms and she'll be okay. But it's Did you have a fever? Yeah,
she's running a fever. Yeah. And she's funny though. She She
really is in. She's been in bed since Tuesday.
Is she a good sick person or
she's a great sick person. Sometimes she's sometimes she's
a plus. Sometimes she'd like to get away from Marie.
Some people are bad.
She's really good. I feel horrible. I just I feel
inadequate. I just like I don't know what else I can do with
this. Yeah, thank you. Hey, oh, however, she does say funny
things, man. You
meanwhile while hallucinating
Yes. So she says I have a dastardly flu. I'm like what?
Yeah, it's my on Facebook. My one of my doctor friends says I
have the flu. I have his dastardly flu. And that's it.
You You're so sweet. Honey, you're European. You just never
heard of this word because it's not used enough. But dastardly
flu is not like a version of swine. It's a description it's a
it's an adjective. And she was all bummed out she's like what I
thought I had like some awesome flu that no one had heard of.
Like the dastardly Egyptian flu or something and that's what one
of her doctor buddies who put the whole Facebook thing when
she's delirious is kind of interesting. Because she'd be
like, Look, honey, here's a video of dolphins clapping sad
because I don't want to live out pretty sad is bad. This is no
good. The household falls apart immediately. Nothing works. I
don't know what to do. clean the dishes. That's what I do that
throw it in the machine and everything and I was just like,
ah, oh my goodness. I missed that we missed out on so many
great obat opportunities because we had a whole bunch of things
planned. Oh, that's a shame. Oh yeah, like a dinner tonight and
tonight have been great because they'd be gloating. Yes, yes,
indeed they would be gloating. And I'm glad you bring that up.
But first let me thank you for your courage. John,
I want to thank you for your courage. Adam.
This has become the meme because you're on no agenda. Yeah, we
changes
the changes from year to year. It's weird though. This
this one just took hold. We I think we only use it once or
twice on the show. And everyone, every email I get starts with
thank you for your courage.
And it feels well it made you know,
I think we need to say this to each other more often just in
general life just in passing.
You might as well just make everything meaningless.
You know, when I get one of those solicitors on the street,
the ones that I hate the opinion solicitors and I'm always pretty
good at coming up with you know, when they leave. Hey, would you
like to hate animals? Or would you like to save the whales? No,
I hate him. I think I'll start off by Oh, thank you for your
courage. See what see what that does to them.
That's a great idea when somebody comes up to you like,
Hey, can I ask you but I'd rather not.
Thank you for your thank you for your courage, but I'd rather
not. Which is kind of like a veiled threat at the same time.
I like it.
And I'm like, I'm not from these parts.
Today is the store. Monday, I guess maybe No, maybe when did
this go into effect? It's so hard to tell any more with just
we're gonna get to this to the shutdown bullcrap. Which of
course, as predicted right on time in the nick of time, with
the same script that Boehner used on the the what was it the
last time we had some crisis? It was the same thing. He couldn't
get the vote. And then the the plan B didn't work.
Yeah, you're just playing along with the Tea Party guys has
shown that they can't when he plays the game, I think Boehner
is doing a pretty good job of it. The ellipse, the late pass
is great. Did you see the thing where they? Oh, I didn't clip
it. I should have clipped it. The Republicans slipped one
through on the Democrats, which is irked the hell out of a
couple of them. Where you can't bring anything to the house to
the floor unless it's pre approved by Boehner.
Well, yeah, we talked about that on the on on the last show, but
we I don't remember. Yeah, but But it only pertain to
a this crisis.
Yeah, well, not just the crisis. But but the the Obamacare
funding of the crisis, quote, unquote, crisis. There was only
to one little bit but but really, when you when you look
at the whole here's the analysis. Explain before we go,
no, no, this is exactly I'm gonna set you up for this.
Because I know what you're gonna say. The analysis that Yeah, I
think I do. I think it's almost been six years, John, come on, I
know every nook and cranny of your body. Honey, I know exactly
where you're coming from.
I present.
The analysis that no one has given is how the process
actually works. And who was really holding up who, and I
don't know anyone better than our very own constitutional law
professor, John C. Dvorak. The C stands for cash. Who can explain
the process and why it really was? It's always been the
Senate. It's been the Senate from day one, not the House of
Representatives.
Yeah, no, that's true. I had no date in 10 that I wanted to do
the wrap up that I that I read, no, no, you
can you can get to that. But you have to explain what it is
first, because no one became okay
with that. But I don't really, I'm not really in the in the
mood to do this. But I'll tell you this, to simplify it, that
all money that is spent by the government is is is called out
by Congress, Congressman is this is the holder of the purse
strings.
This is important, we got to stop at this because this is the
power of the purse, which I think is Section One Article,
Article One, Section Eight, I believe from the Constitution
and the Constitution in front of the concept. The Constitution
specifically states that the House of Representatives can
decide which pieces of the government to fund and I believe
that is, in particular, their their function, if it is a
taxation, right?
Yes, specifically, they're the ones who do find ways to get the
money and how to spend it. They're the ones who say, here's
what we got, here's the money we got, here's how we're going to
spend it. Generally speaking, it's called the budget. And the
Congress that you know, the House and the Senate work
together on this at some point even though the house has got
you know, supposedly supposed to do most of the work in the
Senate is supposed to be a rubber stamp. And then the
President has to sign off on it or not sign off, he doesn't have
to sign it and if he doesn't sign like just what happened
this time they had a budget it was fine and they had decided to
just leave the Obamacare funding out which is fine too. They can
do that it's been done before but everyone withdrawal the law
of the land the law.
Now let me ask you a question. The way I understand it is they
can pass this on they can pass on a bill about motorcycle rear
tire ers and the Senate can take that bill, rip it all out. They
have the right to do that and put in anything they want, which
they've done in the past. They could they could have written
their own their own law, their own bill, their son has to prove
it. You but they still could have done that at any point.
They could have passed any piece they wanted to any habits,
but they still but at the end of the day, the two hot the two
houses have to approve the final product. Right. Okay.
So I'm saying it's not just one side that is keeping stuff up.
I mean, oh, David, the house had done a bill was completed. It
was weeks and weeks ago is way before the shutdown. And it was
and it was it was pretty much the budget with that what
everybody kind of wanted. And they went it but it had one
thing in there was that we're not going to pay for this
Obamacare thing. And which was which was not not an unusual
thing. If people had read my news or your newsletter,
newsletter that was done in.
It's okay. It's your newsletter now. I see the writing on the
wall. Yeah. That's how it always starts.
Yeah, all right. Yeah. So anyway, if the newsletter has a
link to a very good column by atomic or by soul,
yes, actually was the guy who put it in the show notes under
Sharia.
Very good to read. It's very simple. And if they had to build
them, but if Obama wasn't gonna buy into this, and he
apparently, he called their bluff. Essentially, Obama said
that, and I can't even talk my way or the highway, which is
what the Republicans always
said. But you know what he did? He did, he called their bluff
and he was save the world.
And so now everyone thinks he's a big hero, when in fact, he was
a divider. Yes.
He's a fighter, not a lover. And he saved the world. He saved the
world. John, he pulled us back from the brink once again, save
the world.
The guy is amazing. I you
know, me, I'd like I like to go read these things. So this is
got this got to be the worst hr 2775. Well, of course, they
slipped a lot of things in here.
Oh, yeah. In fact, no, that's what they always do.
But that was a big one here for Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell
snuck a beauty in or like, like a $2 billion increase in some
damn project in his in his hometown or whatever. Which and
but the way they did it is so that it wouldn't look like he
slipped it in the deal they made is that Pelosi and Reid said,
no, no, we put that in. Because if we cancelled out that
project, it would cost the American taxpayer like $106
million dollars. So oh, we couldn't have that. So, you
know, what was a $700 million project we've now up to like a
$2.9 billion project. So I think McConnell was I mean, he was
really good at this he got exactly what he wanted any head
and he had the top Democrats admittedly shilling for him.
Yes, it's great. These guys are such a halls great a number one
top of the class douchebag In fact, I got a dude unbelievable
let me ask you the show comes comes down to it's just money
for their own crap.
You want to you're reading this? I want you to answer this
question. There's a bunch of this the the shutdown cost the
American it cost Americans $25 billion the shutdown
that's just numbers being thrown. No one can quantify you
lay everybody
off in a bit you got a building right? It's it's cost so much to
run it you fire everybody in the building and shut the power off
and now you're now you're it's costing you more than if you
were running the building now you
know, this is this is what people fall for with this bull
crap number falling, or no, no, not You're not people.
I'm telling you. Why did this do what where does this come
because it's
because it's a lie. In fact, right at the top here, I section
115 of the of the settlement ensures furloughed employees are
compensated and ratifies obligations made during the
shutdown similar to language used in Past shutdowns, past
shows they should say so as you predicted, it was a nice paid
vacation. Maybe it was a little unnerving because you know, you
sit at home like Ah crap, man, what's going to happen? Not
going to support the no agenda show I gotta save my money. So
there was some of that but not everyone gets gets back pay. The
effective date for this joint resolution is back dated. This
is one of my favorite things. They backdated to October 1, I
guess that that makes all of us something Oh, that's got to be a
financial thing. Something going on there. There's an
authorization for the Food for Peace Act, which I haven't
gotten into but it looks like a lot of fun. Extends authority
for activities to counter the Lord's Resistance Army and non
conventional a system recovery. Okay, now there was 100 guys for
the Lord's Resistance Army last time we were told about it. This
is the whole Kony thing. And so now this we had to put this
money into forgot about him we had to put this clause in for
100 Guys, that stinks. So we have to look into that let's see
what else was anointed there was a lot of just annoying things
extends authority for the chemical facilities anti
terrorism standards program. There's a lot of new things that
come in here.
A lot of criticism This is listen I wish somebody would
start dissecting this what you do best Yeah, this got to just
everyday we should pound on this there's tons of crap like this
in there so that this was a wasted everybody's time put
everyone through a wringer made the everyone fret and made the
old ladies worry about their pensions and all the rest of
them for this crap that they put together with all these bullshit
things in their life that quote got
to this extent this is a good one that this is a payoff right
here extends authority for the Secret Service to apply proceeds
from undercover investigations in other words if the Secret
Service ochres five finds you with a hooker and some
counterfeit bills they can put both into service for them
extends authority for quote other transaction contracting
agreements for the Department of Homeland Security. Yeah, no
that's not suspicious of its you know, this is these things are
Oh, have you ever heard of cola? I had to look this one up,
prohibits cola for members of Congress for fiscal year 2014
I'm like Wow, man That's harsh. They can't even have a coke what
apparently COA cost of living? That's right it's their it's
their salary increase.
So they gotta get that no, they
don't It prohibits prohibits good. Yeah, so that time Yeah,
that's a good thing. Why
some other scam? No, they're not gonna they're not going to
starve to death these guys. No, no. So they're just, well,
let me just write it. There it is. Let me just roll out I get
three things and I want you to wrap it up. And I want to start
by saying one thing. I am of the belief. How's that for
performative? I am I do believe and I am of the belief systems
that I want my state representative in arguing for my
state. So this is a good thing and I'm not necessarily against
a lot of these things that are put in here Yeah, Mitch
McConnell Good on you man. You got $3 billion for your state
you know whatever project your your boys your boys, you know,
and good on that's whatever it is going on. Good on ya. Good on
you. I don't see anything for Texas in here, too. But I'm okay
with that. Your debt. Your Ted Cruz guy. Words of sucks. But I
don't see anything in here. Either
way that guy's getting on my nerves. Yeah.
Didn't you say he was going to the White House? He thinks he's
going to be president or something. That'd be funny. Yes,
he has the same chance as as Rick Santorum. He is not an
appealing person. No, he's he's condescending he's pompous. To
do.
So what I don't like is all these federal programs and stuff
for the Secret Service and homeland security that is
unspecified. Now to go and figure out what that is that
part I find extremely annoying. I'm okay. With your state's
representatives trying to get what's best for your state
because at the end of the day, we're not a country. We're not a
we're not united. We're fine. I live in Texas, man. I saw a
bumper sticker the other day y'all can go to hell. And I'm
gonna go to Texas. So that's exactly right. Here the here's
two quick things. Now, I want you to hear how this was being
for people. This is 30 seconds for people who have or do not
live in the United States of Gitmo nation. And this This was
coming down to the wire as they were trying to scare people. And
then of course, if you listen to no agenda show, you just sat
back and relax and you knew that it would all get taken care of
at the last minute minute as happened as promised. Here's
MSNBC. This is Thomas Roberts. This is how he talks to this is.
Mark Marsha Blackburn, I think she's She She must be a
Republican. About the shutdown and it seems just not okay.
When it comes to Obamacare, do you hate Obamacare more than you
love your country?
I gotta tell you something. I think that comments like that,
that you are making are just incredibly inappropriate. What
we have to realize like
it's incredibly inappropriate to shut down our government and to
take off hostages of Americans that you've taken because you've
taken the government through a shutdown and all the American
people you're not walking them to a cliff the economy and
you're gonna push them over one by one based on the fact that
you don't like the ACA that's all it is you don't like the
Affordable Care Act listen to yourself yes
yeah so that I mean she's right
what do you like these guys on MSN but destroy this network is
starting to fall apart oh yeah no
this dumb this is not this is not what this is not
entertainment. You're just propaganda and people are even
dumping
on Fox when they propagandize you. It's entertaining.
Yes. And they've got better looking legs. This guy got no
legs. Well, yeah, they got they got laid. Here's a here's Debbie
Wasserman Schultz who said to me an unbelievable thing. On more
on the Morning Joe Show again and MSNBC. And she was there
with Peter King or it gets she was in the studio. Peter King
was on the remote box. Peter kins Republican right? I'm gonna
guess. I can't remember. Yeah, he's like a douche. They're both
Yeah,
he's one of the worst. He's also the biggest Muslim. Bader.
So Debbie Washington. Yes, Debbie Wasserman Schultz is she
is in charge of the Democratic Party. She she's the chair
person. And she said something I found to be very interesting,
although, right in line with MSNBC viewers who love this idea
brought up a concept that you've been talking about with
Republican women. Tell Peter, and let's see if he agrees. So
this could be solved. So
Peter, if if we put all the women Republican and Democrat in
the House together, the consensus from all of us is that
we would get this done in a few hours theater.
So she just said, If it was up to the women, then we'd have
this done in a few hours. Don't you
think he has a sexist pig thing to say? Yeah. But this is this,
by the way, was not only her saying that there was a bunch of
people saying this meme, this meme came out. Ah, and then when
they when the thing was finally finished in the Senate, again,
because Susan Collins was involved along with a woman from
Alaska to women. They took credit as women for doing this.
And so this has become kind of a meme that the women if we elect
more women, this is just obviously, you know, an attempt
to get more women elected. If we elect more women, we won't have
these problems because these man, which brings me to another
point that I'll be making later in the show,
okay, bookmark that Peter King did he had a good comeback? He
was ready for it. Oh, that's? Oh, I don't know. I think you
should put Sarah Palin then they're also really let's make a
hot woman from Alaska as the brunt of this joke. Right. What
do you say to that? Debbie Wasserman Schultz?
You know, I would argue that even if Sarah Palin were in the
room, we could find a way to get a shot at about Sarah.
You're all douche knuckles.
So let's wait.
I hope I hope I hope, I hope I hope I pray. I pray to my god
Lucifer, that Hillary Clinton becomes president. I cannot
wait.
How much coffee have you had today?
I haven't actually, I've only had one cup. Because why am I am
I to do I need to calm down here while I'm wound up? Well, I'm
excited because there's all kinds of stuff that I can ask
you about, you know, play the
crisis wrap so we can get get rid of this this time.
I don't know if we're gonna get rid of it.
Under the Budget Control Act. This is far less than many of us
had hoped for, frankly. But it's far better than what song had
saw.
The framework came from a bipartisan group of 14 senators
led by Republican Susan Collins of Maine, this great country
deserves a Congress that can govern. And that was the
unifying theme of our group. The agreement, they worked out funds
government operations for three months at reduced spending
levels already in place, and it raises the debt ceiling through
February 7. The deal also calls for a congressional panel to
negotiate a long term deficit reduction package. And it
requires that Americans verify incomes to qualify for subsidies
under the new health care law. That was the sole section
related to Obamacare after Republicans spent weeks trying
to block or delay parts of the law. Heart 65. Last month, Texas
Senator Ted Cruz, a leading Tea Party conservative filibustered
over the issue. Today. He said he'd vote no, but would not try
to delay action. I have
no objections to the timing of this vote. And the reason is
simple. There's nothing to begin Ain't from delaying this vote
one day or two days, the outcome will be the same. Every senator,
every member of the House is going to have to make a decision
where he or she stands that
Arizona Republican John McCain, meanwhile, had oppose the
shutdown when he voiced relief today.
I think it's obvious that we are now seeing the end of this
agonizing Odyssey that this body has been put through but far
more importantly, the American people have been put through
it's one of the more shameful chapters that I have seen in the
years that I've spent here in the Senate
now please, every year you've been set guy he is the
definition bullshitting is the definition of shameful that guy
right there guys What an idiot and you know, of course this
only take us to what February 1 I think that's a no that's the
yeah so it's like to be continued. We'll do a whole new
there'll be series five episode one all over again exclusively
on if they could just move it to Netflix. And just take it off
cable news so
you don't you know if you're trading stocks
Here we go. Screw stocks, Mitchell triangles got $2
billion dollars for you know more
action not less. No,
no, no. Yes. Okay. That's where the peons in the game, John, but
the real players, because here Make no mistake Harry Reid's
state also benefits from this damn. Yeah, the real players are
in construction. Yo, yo, yo, I'm sorry, that's a breaking bad
thing. I can't I have to stop doing that. I'd say so. Here's
so all right. Hold on a second. All right. Let me explain. Every
six to eight weeks, seven or eight weeks, but I made I made
it rain early. Mickey and I have a massage. We haven't assumed
come to the house. Whoa, she's actually a
donations. Yeah, right. So she's having Missy have a hair cutter
come to the house to
know so it's six or eight weeks as
a makeup artist show up. Before you go to dinner with the bots
she's she answers the phones at Mickey's chiropractor's office
and moonlights doing massage
this is where makeup yourself when you go to visit Obama bots.
No, a little makeup a little powder.
No. What does this have to do with with a massage?
I figured you have the makeup artist come over and a bunch of
lights and no
I care I carry her bed in from the trunk of her Honda. Okay, so
it's not like I spent the
night massage person is the oh I never mind I'll just drop the
subject I get it.
She by the way is very funny. She's from New Zealand and she's
been here six years she just recently got divorced
conveniently after her five year period of having a green card.
And but she's a New Zealand girl. And and she she finds it
very hard to understand you know she in New Zealand in general
I'm going to generalize women who have casual sex because they
want it and it makes them feel good are seen as independent
strong willed women in America they're seen as slots it's an
orange slot some horse and so she was she was like I don't
understand this. I'm sorry that was my my John Lennon I can't do
with the New Zealand accent she's at easy no it's not she
said it's really really hard to understand because you know in
New Zealand it you know it's very normal to have a nail and
bail or a fucking Chuck and she's rolling and all these are
like whoa, what's a nail and bail? Fucking Chuck. I like
nail in Bay.
I know. And then so anyway, so she tells the stories and she's
very entertaining. It's really really funny. And and then I
said but what do you want to be when you grow up? You know
what's your answer was
a massage therapist scaffolding she wants to be like scaffolding
that makes sense.
This is why this comes back to the construction. She says right
now in New Zealand because of the you know, the big
earthquakes they had. I remember the really big one in Christ
Church and surrounding area and they've had a couple of follow
ons. The government has has all scaffolding in place. There's no
no more scaffolding in New Zealand. So no one can build
anything because all the scaffolding has been slipped up
by the government and is outside of you know, government
buildings, etc. And she's like, this is the business and morons
can put it together. I'm in the curry divorce Investment Group
hedge fund are in so scaffold scaffolding. Anyway, onward does
sorry about the the sidetrack Obama, as he announced this deal
throughout the V largest performative I have ever seen
him give, which I wanted to share. And as you know, we have
learned from performative that when a politician most likely,
but anyone is about to give you a load of crap, and he's going
to purposely lie, but without lying, because he only is
referring back to the performative that he uses, then
it's pretty much all bullcrap. And it's a lie.
I'll give an example, please. In fact, let me say this, about
that. Exactly. You've done
it already. So you're just saying something you're not
you're not say stating anything is true, or a even as a brief?
And then so everything after that refers to what I just said,
which is, let me say this about that. Everybody's crazy. I mean,
and then you've been, right, it's got nothing to do with
anything. No, you say,
the president, tell the lie is that he wants to work with
everybody, and he'll do anything necessary. And he wants to help
the people. And so Save the Children and make the world a
better place. That's the lie. But he sets it up beautifully
with actually a Bill Clinton asked performance
immediately. And we can begin to lift this cloud of uncertainty
and unease from our businesses, and from the American people.
I'll have more to say about this tomorrow. And I've got some
thoughts about how we can move forward in the remainder of the
year, stay focused on the job at hand. Because there's a lot of
work ahead of the standby, including our need to earn back
the trust of the American people that's been lost over the last
few weeks. And we can begin to do that by addressing the real
issues that they care about. All right, so here comes the Get
ready. I've said it before. I'll say it again.
Wow, that is that's a Clinton one. That's what Clinton knew.
That's what Ray
said it before. And I'll say it again,
I'm willing to work with anybody I'm eager to work with anybody,
Democrat or Republican House or Senate members on any idea that
will grow our economy, create new jobs, strengthen the middle
class and get our fiscal house in order.
So clearly, you don't mean that I said it before I'll say it
again. Fully actually that's so at this point that's just
insulting to the to the no agenda, the audience. Oh, it for
our Yeah, our group understands. And then of course, we had
something crazy happen. And I knew it was going to happen. I
knew something. I knew something was up. I knew the signs were
everywhere. When Senator Barb What's her name again?
McCluskey. Malinowski McCluskey, Senator Barb, this old bag of
wind throws out not once, not twice, but three times as is
perfect for the magic number.
Thank you very much, Mr. President. I rise then to speak
for approximately 10 minutes. objection. Mr. President, we're
33 hours there it is one away from the possible to false of
the United States of America on its debt obligations. Now, that
was 33 hours of where it is, again, from the possibility of
the United States of America becoming a deadbeat nation, not
its bills not paying its bills
to its own people and other creditors. Hi.
When do I get my bills paid by my government? Oh, wait, one
more. One more. One more. One more.
We're 33. He just doesn't stop
that code is the code was important because there was a
bond trade that you could have made because just before they
passed all this stuff, they were I was watching Bloomberg. And
there was some guy on the on one of the trading desk guys, and he
had this computer. I mean, he showed this spike on one of
these other some bond in particular, that would have been
the way he said this is the bond that would be most affected. So
it collapsed, because it would be the if the government
defaulted, supposedly, even though we know it wouldn't have
really done anything. But if the if there was some situation that
occurred, this was the one bond that would have not been paid
out. And right after she dropped her 3333 33 If you had gone or
actually you if you've gone short on that bond, and then
gone long on that bond within a one hour period, you would have
probably made about five to 10x your money. I mean, how
did you hear about this? And more importantly, why did we not
act on this?
This is the problem that the two of us have
cashflow we're really
good at Monday morning quarterbacking sitting In the
couch sitting on the shelves could have made money. We could
have been in on that.
Yeah, this is, this is quite the quite the problem. Yes. Well, I
took it differently. Although I appreciate that analysis. And if
there's any links I can throw into the show notes at 557 dot
na shownotes.com I'd love to do that, then maybe you can send me
some. So So yeah, we got a lot of smart people who, who listen,
who might be able to figure something out and help, you
know, get us in early?
Well, we there's another opportunity coming up at the end
of the year. Yeah. Where this will all play out again, all
over again, investments that you can turn around real fast, you
got to be done on your toes. So you can't be sitting around. You
can't be working can't be watching C span or something
Donald's and spec to actually pull this off. But if you're
sitting at the terminal, you could probably make some serious
money really fast. I've
always thought that if I gave up everything I do, and only
focused on like a level two screen, and I just sat at home
and really played. I've always thought I could do it. Have you
ever felt that you could really do it? If you just did nothing
else?
People can do it. A friend of mine actually does it. He used
to be a publisher and he used to have all these you work for a
living and now all he does his day trade. Yeah. And
essentially, it's like, I think I must have brought this up
before. It's like the guy I knew that used to be an HP engineer
knew him pretty well, years ago, and he was a professional poker
player. And he says even the most mediocre player, typically,
and most poker players, professional poker players make
about $125,000 a year playing poker all the time. The problem
is, you have to be playing poker all the time. Right? Right.
You're essentially just professionally playing poker all
the time. And that's the same thing with this. This is doesn't
sound like a lot of fun for 125, who was 125 million? Yeah, I
could see doing it. But for just because you like playing poker.
You know, you can make 125,000 He says, And this I think the
guy who's playing the stock market is probably doing okay,
but it's not, you know, well, fun thing to do.
Yeah, but at the same time, it's show is more fun.
Oh, no,
this show was a lot more fun. Even if we don't make poker
money. But if I was playing the market, you're still you're kind
of doing a little bit of what we do for the show anyway,
you can do a little bit of that you have to but since the
markets rigged is what everybody who plays the market tells you
right? It makes it difficult unless you're kind of part of
their some scheme or you're you know, in the mob and you're part
of a pump and dumper. You get some sort of insight inside or
you're part of Congress.
You got to be on this. And you know, I know Annie Duke, she
used to live near us in when we lived in Los Angeles. And I had
her up to the house a couple of times, because she'd released
books about you know, I had the big book show. I was doing it
actively. And, and I was looked at it because she was one of the
people she has plays poker. In fact, she started the poker
League, I believe I have no idea where that is. And you know, the
whole idea is to sell television rights or have control rights
over poker playing on TV. And you know, she's she has the
potential to be super hot. But she just looks ragged from the
poker. It's just looking at her like, girl, you know, she has
real potential, but
you drew sitting on your butt.
And her butt was the thing that was the biggest problem. Like
you gotta get off of that. But girl, damn.
No, that's not a business I'd want to be in.
Anyway, I took this 33 as a warning for something weird to
happen. And boy did it ever right near the end of this vote
and to share you
the comments of the president. Also, this is from C span. You
may have seen at the very end of the vote that a woman came to
the de us and was speaking to mics were off. Those mics are
controlled by the House Radio and TV gallery. The microphones
were off. But here's the reporting of Jamie Dupree from
Cox radio on that issue. He says one of the house demographers
had to be taken off the floor. After getting up and screaming
during the vote. We'll update that story
as we are. So I'm looking at this and I have two pieces of
audio to play. And they don't match up which is the
infuriating thing. There was a an NPR reporter who I guess he
has his own control over things. Because he started tweeting a
SoundCloud file it says oh my god, I've recorded this woman's
crazy rant. So the first I'll play the, the audio, the real
the wild audio, where the the the where they called the Madam
President, is is gaveling This woman to get her to try to shut
up. So she's just hammering away and this lady's Yellin You can't
really hear what she's saying. But the audio that the that the
NPR guy recorded doesn't have any of the gaveling in it. So
here's the The wild audio first
speech of the month Don't touch me. He will not be the greatest
deception here is this is not one nation under God. It never
was. Had it been, it would not have been.
So this is actually the the wild audio. It sounds like she's no
longer in the in the house. It sounds like she's in the
hallway. And her name is supposedly Denise. But I think
someone calls her Molly at some point.
No
written by Freemasons, they go against God
Jesus Christ. I'm thinking she got one of those emails about
Satan or something. And she's like,
so wife swappers. Yeah,
here's here's this to take part. So this is not the same audio as
what has yet
nothing to do with the 33. I'm telling you, the 33 was a coded
message got people to go
along. I'm already there. I'm just saying that something
happened. And we're just we've moved on. We've moved on from
what was so some crazy woman
Well, hold on a second. Hold on a second. You can't just pass
this off as just some crazy woman starts. She was a pet
according to what the official report is. She was she's a
stenographer who has been there for many years. And she's and
this is supposed to be her. We don't know that for sure.
Because now apparently, someone's name is Molly. And
she's yelling about, you know, the, the Freemasons didn't write
the constitution, they would never do that. You can't I mean,
she's obviously it's going off in a atypical manner. And this
is the wild sound, which I thought it sounded like people
were yelling Allahu Akbar, quite honestly.
seen our hammering her out
now she's getting hauled off. So it's clearly not the same
recording at all.
No, this is something else. But you're right. The other one was
done in the hall. Yeah, the queue into the hallway where
they could put them, they can mic her, or has stick a mic in
her face. And then she she continued her rant in the
hallway. We have no idea what the premise was, because I would
have been on the floor of the Congress. She's just bitching,
moaning about some. Well, it's, you think that she was triggered
by some? Some, you know, some code word. Next thing? You know,
she's going nuts.
She was talking to a couple guys look like she was talking to
members of the House. And then she I mean, if you look at the
video, you can see it. She's talking to some guys and she
walks over, she walks right up and just starts yelling, and you
can hear if you really listen, you can hear some things. But
it's not. We're not sure at all that this is what she was
yelling about this could it could be two separate incidents.
But it shouldn't be just one. You can't just pass over that
when you have a woman shot to death and unarmed mom shot to
death outside because oh, she's crazy. You know, and why didn't
they shoot her to death? Why don't we have a big ceremony
right now thanking the sergeant in arms for protecting them from
the crazy lady, another armed unarmed crazy lady,
another unarmed mom. Yeah. Why don't we have that?
You? Why is this just being glossed over? I don't I don't
think that's appropriate. I'd like to know what's happening.
Yeah, and because yes, I am concerned about the drugs people
are being prescribed. And I think I'm I'm on the Abilify
tip. Now. I think Abilify is the one that's that's pushing people
over the edge. That
Yeah, Ben because it's always an additive drug. So it's not you
don't take Abilify by itself from what I can tell.
Well, at parties you can
what a party.
Yeah, if you party, you just take an immense pop and Abilify,
but it's good. The only the only difference is for the first time
in three attempts. This was not a black person. Which is another
thing that is just not being discussed, and I'll bring it up
here. It's crazy. No one just says it
and attempted a prank could land one California man behind bars.
Police arrested a baggage handler for allegedly planting
those dry ice bombs around Los Angeles International Airport
this week. officers arrested DeCarlo Bennett last night. They
say then it admitted to planning the devices and blowing them up
but he says it was just a prank
another black guy. So we've had the black guy Navy Yard shooter
we've had the black unarmed mother who was was not shooting
anything but was killed. Oh, by the way whose lawyer was
arrested? And who so Miriam Carey sister has been denied
custody of, of her sister's 14 month old girl. So she can't get
that the lawyer the family lawyer says, Oh, this is not
over yet. Boom next day, he's arrested on like bankruptcy
charges and is thrown in jail. Yeah. And none of this is weird
at all, and then fine. Oh, and normally crazy people are white
rednecks if we just want to stereotype and generalize from
the south with AR fifteens. To what what is going on and why is
no one saying you know, hey, this is interesting. This is not
the typical profile it's not a sovereign citizen doing this
it's it's people who are probably likely to have been on
the vilify Yes. And, and in the neighborhood of God knows what
kind of external factors which could be radio waves or
whatever. To this, so this lady was white, but we don't know
when this will pass. We will not hear a single thing and I find
that uncharacteristically annoying of the press.
No, you don't. Yeah, I
do. Right? It's very characteristically
annoying. uncharacteristic at all
look at how they blew up all the Yes, they've blown up all these
other stories. And now this one is just oh, that's
what they do. Yeah. Okay, they've been doing that. Since
we started the show, and before actually, he has been doing that
since the 1920s. Yeah, that's true. Well, then only there.
Yes. If you fill all your chairs, no, no,
you crap.
We'd rather have stories like this. Like what? Man over here
sad tale and diner secretly plays pays for meal. When one
mystery diner in Boston restaurant in a Boston
restaurant overheard a mother and daughter gets some bad news.
He took out a pen and scribbled this note to his waiter. Do me a
favor and bring me their check to someone just got diagnosed.
Don't tell them. A waiter impressed by his customers
active. Oh, oh boy, kindness posted it on Reddit. We're glad
he did. Now that we have our faith in humanity restored to
the GWOT waiter known as whisk guys on Reddit writes that the
two women started crying after the daughter received a phone
call mid meal and that he then combined the two bills as
requested. I waited until the guy left and told them that they
he had taken care of their check and that he had said Best
wishes, which was what he had said on the note he wrote me in
the second bill. The mother cried even harder. I almost lost
it.
Yeah, that's the kind of that's the kind of story we want. Now
Oh my second now I have to find this this thing. Oh, God started
today. This this. This is the story of the day Hold on a
second.
Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine.
That's the jingle version. Here's the full soundbite.
Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine. That's according to a
study from Connecticut College. Researchers found that eating
Oreos activated more neurons in the pleasure center.
drains and exposure to
the pleasure center. What is she thinking of her own pleasure
center when she's doing this read in the pleasure center or
morphine?
To get a job in Hollywood with his app?
I don't know.
That's like most humans. Rats like to eat the Oreo cookies
creamy metal first.
Oh, man. Yeah. Can you believe that? You just read that? Yeah,
you did. You really did. Sorry to say? Yeah, that's Are you are
you there? Because you've been cutting out a little bit. I
didn't think so. I have a feeling we gotta check.
Oh, crap. She's flipped for the day.
Oh, thank you. Well, the question is, is it the long clip
or the short clip that is
the middle part that's the clip of the day old.
Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine.
I love how she says it.
Yeah, you know, she's got a lot of she's like,
Yeah, I'm really enthusiastic about the cocaine business.
She's obviously you got something going on.
Carroll CNN.
A kind of evergreen submission. I'm going to discuss a new part
of the show, at least from my perspective, from my side,
you're going to hear things that I think should be evergreen
clips and then I'm going to present them to you to either
approve or disapprove or put in the evergreens and never use
again, which is typically what happens. But please try this
evergreen submission. Okay, so the interesting This is
information The world needs to know. We still think just a
little website.
Yeah. Okay. This is about the this is the Fifth Estate.
This is something the world needs to know.
You know, Julian Assange A is pissed off about this movie is
Oh my goodness. Hold on. I have one more time. Okay, hold on.
We'll put it into the evergreens. This is information
The world needs to know. This beyond just a little website.
Yeah, he is. He's pissed off. He was on. Good for him. Let me
thank him. I got to see what this I have to clip.
Me. This movie's got to be a hilarious kind of a parody or I
don't I'm sure it's filled with government propaganda.
Here's, well, here's, here's what he had. This is a two
parter. Really. Here's the first part where he's being
interviewed by George Stephanopoulos for ABC. And
Stephanopoulos even sets it up. Well, I think it's this one.
This is what we need. The Fifth Estate
is being distributed by Touchstone Pictures division of
ABCs parent company Disney and without. That says it all
continue the debate. We turn live to Julian Assange. She
joins us from the Ecuadorian embassy in London.
And I wonder is he still at the Ecuadorian embassy is he is
yours at this point, just a bookcase in his in his house
somewhere in his bunker wherever he's living.
He could have snuck him out somehow. Well, I'm
sure they get him out once in a while. Thank
you for joining us again, Mr. Assange. And you heard Benedict
Cumberbatch there. He says he tried to neither glorify nor
vilify you. And the film celebrates many of the what he
calls the great things that Wikileaks has done. Do you
accept that?
Well, Mr. Cumberbatch wrote me a charming, very polite letter.
And with genuine concerns about the nature of the script being
used in that film. He's reported to have said to Vogon, to The
Guardian, that he had fights with the director, who wanted to
present me as a, quote, cartoon baddie. That's Mr. Cumberbatch,
his words, I don't want to put words into his addition. This
is where Julian Assange, by the way jumps the shark tunnel words
into his mouth. But of course, he he is under a contract and is
limited to what he can say in the film. I do know that he
tried to ameliorate some of the worst elements of the script.
But unfortunately, with limited success, what's your biggest
complaint? Please try it.
What's your biggest complaint that the film
I don't know where to begin? I mean, we script well, before
this happened, there was no approach to us are by DreamWorks
in any formal capacity whatsoever, informal approach by
Benedict Cumberbatch just days before shooting, shooting began.
This is a film that is based upon my life's work, the work of
my organization. We have people in extremely serious situations.
Sarah Harrison,
now. So he is he's now he said, he's about to say that they are
irresponsible filmmaking, which is hello, pot kettle callings.
Like this is the guy who's the radical whistleblowing
publishing, you know, get everyone out in the open. Now
he's being screwed by the system. And his girlfriend,
which is Sarah Harris. And now they're going to keep coming
back to Sarah Harrison, which I think Stephanopoulos is poking
because it's pretty well known that Sarah Harrison came in as
an intern, Assange started giving her the special wiki
stick, and she became like, you know, the senior legal counsel
at WikiLeaks, and she apparently is now with Snowden in Russia,
or wherever, wherever she's hiding out. And I think that
Stephanopoulos his job here is to bind her to know to tweet to
tweet Julian's nipples about about this because she's kind of
hot. Oh, seeing was no
possibility that she's Yeah, actually the nail is no, yes.
Yes, yes. Yeah. It was found out of Hong Kong, now effectively in
exile in Russia because of the terrorist investigation here.
Jeremy had Hammond knowledge media source to 25
organizations, including
ours, and no one cares. We're gonna go back to Sarah Harrison.
This
is what George will do for sentencing in under a month's
time, an ongoing grand jury investigation. What are the
responsibilities for ethical filmmaker,
responsibility for ethical filmmaking immediate, the movie
about me, is not fear. I told my hard work and not making all the
money in
that context. None of the suggested changes that we sent
to Participant Media. I didn't get a writer credit ended up
Even in the final text of the film, and but there's been a big
cashing in that has gone Oh, there
she is real beef. Oh, everyone's making money but he's really not
now Now let's get let's get back to
New York about that Tupac was my piece of the actual
Yeah, well, dude this is you know you're a martyr this is
what this is how it is dude. And now let's talk his nipple about
saris
ritual organization that is he he's trying
to get in there but the satellite delay is messenger.
Yeah.
And you mentioned Sarah Harrison, as you said, it's the
ritual organization,
DreamWorks, it's making a lot of money. Tris is intending to make
a lot of money from this process. But none of there's no
contribution to our defense fund to the Defense Fund of our lead
sources. And so
let me move on to Sarah Harrison, as you said, She's
with Edward Snowden. We saw Edward Snowden this week receive
an award from four American whistleblowers,
that he's also going to throw this in his face. Hey, how's
that award you've gotten? Oh, I'm sorry. You don't have any
awards and listen to him. He takes the bait. You can hear him
being spiteful,
who travelled over to meet with him. And it was something that
was facilitated by WikiLeaks, of course, Sarah Harrison, a Prime
member of WikiLeaks, as well, she's been with Snowden
throughout his time in Russia. What can you tell us about how
Edward Snowden
is doing so it's basically saying so your girlfriend was
over there during the award ceremony with the with Ed
Snowden. Hey, how do you spend a
lot of time with Yeah,
she's in exile with
what you're doing with him anyway. thing
protecting his human rights No,
next for him and for Sarah Harrison.
Edward Snowden is safe. We through a lot of work is in
particularly by Sarah Harrison managed to gain asylum in
Russia. Our attempts to gain him asylum in South America were
thwarted in a very bizarre manner by the State Department
by denying by canceling his passport while he was in Moscow.
Sorry, that's bullcrap. But okay, we bumped down.
He's safe. He's working to educate people, the journalists
involved in these in these disclosures as to what is going
on. He very rightly received that award from a former NSA,
CIA, FBI and DOJ whistleblowers.
You hear what he's doing here? He's like, Oh, yeah, no, he's
clearly you know, yes. No, that's fine. He received that
award from the whistleblowers. That was right on Yeah, I get
an award. I get no money awards come out. I get nothing in my
girlfriend, screwing with this other
day. Tegrity. That's a serious matter. It's a threat to us
democracy and to democracy more broadly in the west, to have a
surveillance apparatus on every single person. That would have
been the dream of East Germany.
Yeah. And meanwhile, he's screwing my girlfriend. This is
not okay. You watch it. This is this is you watch. I guarantee
you they're about to stick it to him.
What's there to watch? We could see coming down Broadway, but
it's so much fun because like Sarah Harris, and she's, she's
hot. She's a hot day, as
are moments of she's probably a lot of fun. I bet. She looks
like a fun girl.
And then, ultimately, I've discovered
Robbie has a New Zealand frame of mind.
Neyland Bale, maybe she's into scaffolding. Who knows? Here's,
so here's the final advice that I had to take away from this
interview. You and I are doing it all wrong. John, the if you
if you want to. I mean, you know, we I think I believe we
challenge our government twice a week. At least we challenge the
narrative, we challenge the story. We we do research, we
really work on trying to uncover what is going on. Our problem is
we're doing it in America. This is where we're this is where
we're stupid.
Well, I would leave US Embassy, you know, it's a it's a it's a
bit of a prison in some way. But I have good people here. But
where would I go to? I would end up in the outside world with
fewer.
Yeah, this is where we are on the outside world. It's very
it's horrible here what is
happening to the outside world. That's a much bigger
consideration is a big consideration for me and my
staff and the 12 different legal actions we have going in
different different countries. But it's a consideration for
everyone. What type of place is Western democracy going to be?
Is it going to be a place that with a collapsing rule of law?
Oh, yeah. Mess isolations all the crap. Where I
can't find her. Where's that siren is coming
from? It's outside his cabin where he's suffering from cabin
fever. Cool.
Does that sound like a Brit? siren Do you? Yes, yes, it does.
It does
have a totalitarian regime. We don't yet have a totalitarian
regime but we have getting pretty close and impractical. Is
it going to cross over into something else?
Now let's hear about the people who really know how to to blow
things open. It's not us because we're in America would
be a hard place for investigative organization like
WikiLeaks to work in. It is a hard place for Glenn Greenwald.
He's now an effective exile in Brazil.
Effective exile in Britain. Play the BS clip he's not in effect.
He's not in a
boyfriend in Brazil. Yes, he's not an effective exile.
But wait, there's more are portraits and effective exile in
Germany is not an effective exile she's living in
Berlin. I want to give you this
close to the Chaos Computer Club and the brand new German
intelligence agency building is right around the corner.
Berlin you Berlin is a party place it historically has always
been held in
Brazil. Portraits in effective exile in Germany. Sarah Harrison
a UK citizen ineffective exile in Russia
yeah Sarah Harrison ineffective exile writing the Paul
asylum in Russia me asylum here the West is becoming a place
where the best and the brightest who keep the government hold the
government to account ending up in asylum or in exile in other
countries we
aren't doing this wrong in Germany we are doing this wrong
You and I we have to go into exile.
Yeah, I mean they excel already.
This Texas is not part of America by the way. I'm an exile
effective. I mean effective
exile in Texas effective exile
on exile in Texas. I'm effective
exile in my office, which I can't seem to clean up.
That is a FEMA Region disaster site.
FEMA Region nine
Well, let me say in the morning to you John C. Dvorak.
Well, in the morning, do you Adam curry in the morning all
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And we talked about that.
Yeah, we did now. Yeah, yeah, we did. We just is I book is that
so it goes into the eye bookstores deal.
Yeah. I remember I remember the the right. Casting lady would
promote it for us the new then Right, right. Right. Right.
Right. So I thought that'd be good. And then she links it
together. And you know, she'll put on like, the iBooks page.
She'll link it to the podcast, and she's really smart. Yeah.
She's Oh, that's great. I just wanted to throw that out there.
Well, hopefully that'll work. We do have a few executive
producers and Associate Executive producers.
Finally, Eric seems to have demoted him to arch Duke when in
fact, he's the Grand Duke. Yeah. Steven Pels, mockers in Belgium
came in with 666, not six, six, which is a whole sack of sixes.
Here Amos and Jedediah, he writes a whole sack of sixes in
preparation for the sixth anniversary of the show in order
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Suazo enough karma on all no agenda nights and gamers out
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and we'll hand off the cup. Thank you so much Grand Duke
you've got karma I just love that guy. Thank you. He's
already he's he's truly our our patron of patrons. A man amongst
men. He is
the Hold on a second. He is the Archduke.
Arch is not grand. Grand dude. He
is the grand dude. No arches underground. Yeah, no, I was
just looking as I sent a note to David Julian who's next on the
list. I'll read his note. This is David Julian 333 33. Morgan
Hill, California came in again
again with the same ENCODE.
The note says blue fire hydrant. No agenda.
No idea what it means, but
I asked him what it meant. Okay? He refused to respond.
He just didn't respond at all or he said, I'm responding but I'm
not telling you.
No response whatsoever. Hmm. Well, I'll do it again, just
because I liked the short notes. Let's
split. Let's split it up. You do the three sections. So all
y'all, I'll start blue fire hydrant.
No agenda.
That's the that's the kind of support I appreciate. Well, I'm
in Falcon and the snowman now all of a sudden.
All right. Do you have the beginning of this note from VP
live? vape. Team 333 for the Massachusetts I got his word
starts off podcast in 2001.
Oh no, I have. This is from our vaping producer, the VP live
vape team. Which you can find at Vape team.com. I heard you guys
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years since the first products hit the market. I went from one
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haven't had a cigarette since I started vaping. We had seen
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of cigarettes they consume. I love how the product has helped
me and my family so much that I decided to start the podcast in
2011. The vaping podcast. We don't take money from the
industry and it
was show is this. Hey, this vaping is great. What about you
Bill? What do you think?
We don't take money from the industry but do take free
products as giveaways we fund the show out of our own pocket
YouTube ads and with the occasional donation the FDA is
about to regulate these products. Now. I will say I've
received several vaping emails but this is the executive
producer. So we're going to read this standalone we can talk
about the vaping later if we get to it. So the FDA is about to
regulate these products that has been in progress for several
years since the FDA declared them tobacco products in 2009.
The regulation is supposed to drop this month but the
government shutdown might delay it well. Good luck there. Ever
since the A NTZ Anti nicotine tobacco zealots found them on
their radar. You find that repressive I'm sorry. repressive
representatives from stress is a thing. Representatives from
groups like American Cancer Society American Lung
Association in the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids are against
these devices, even though they clearly have many healthy
benefits and actually help people reduce quit smoking. No
matter what Adam thinks he's wrong. He's wrong. What does
Adam know? The truth is that nicotine and tobacco are two
different things. Nicotine has similar health risks as common
stimulants such as caffeine Yeah, true. The problem with
nicotine currently is the delivery method burning tobacco
releases 1000s of other chemicals which are known to
have significant health risks. Vaping produces no secondhand
smoke and no toxic byproducts. Then he goes on to say that the
pharmaceutical industry is against vaping since their
current nicotine replacement therapy, drugs, patches, gum,
Chantix, etc, are highly ineffective. And they can't sell
electronic cigarettes as drugs since they are tobacco products.
Also drugs like Chantix, which have insane side effects. Yes,
we know our big profit centers. So he winds up by saying I've
been an advocate for vaping around the country to industry
that is exploding, and helping people continue using nicotine
in a much safer fashion. If you have any questions, please let
me know.
I believe he's the one who sent the email which accused Pfizer
of being behind if I'm not mistaken.
We got the it's all in the show notes by the way. Yes, that
Pfizer gave two almost $3 million to let's see, in total
that is to the American Academy of Pediatrics, American Cancer
Society, American Heart Association, American Lung
Association Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids, American Medical
Association, American Legacy Foundation Action on Smoking and
Health. Total of $2,757,000.03 $757,300 and that
was Pfizer of course who don't they make the Chantix? Yeah, I
think they do. And other products and so that of course
that's how it works. And in fact, I think that as much as I
hate to do it, I think John you and I should get on the anti
vaping train. It seems like oh yeah, the money. That's where
the money is.
Yeah, we should set fire Hey, you know this vaping
smoking $200,000 Yeah, it vaping blows. Don't Don't blow your
life. Don't vape Come on. Send me some money.
Yeah, well, there To think it's
actually Glaxo think isn't Glaxo who makes it
but knew what chance X Glaxo Pfizer well here let's don't
let's don't continue the show yeah, we find out reality
Chantix is h a n tix space wiki Wow. Source wow it's also called
Varun Varun neckline, which is the I guess the
the medical name drug name
marketed by Pfizer usually in the form of tartrate it says
prescription medication used to treat smoking addiction.
Okay, good. I do understand that there's different types of
vaping there are you know, there are there's a type of vaping
where kids just have like some cherry crappy liquid and there's
like a wick in a pen and then the battery burns it and there's
actual That is actual smoke. It's not like a vaporizer.
They're burning like cherry goop. I got a couple emails
about that. And Dr. Sharkey checked in I love it. It was
it's an interesting topic. It is definitely on people's minds. I
was like, and I'm just happy that we're in the game. We got
some skin in the game because we have received a $333.33 cent
donation from the VP live vape team. Yeah, so we're in the
game.
All right. Onward.
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Yes, maybe maybe the misogynistic nature of our
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could be it could be that's possible and then it would be
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toilet the other worlds in opposite direction Yeah. I
finally hit my husband in the mouth after years of trying he
recently delighted in pointing out that I am one of those evil
people who listen in doublespeak Oh no. So he does listen to the
show because the we must have caught our rant on that. Despite
no that's what he was laughing at your thing you sound like
exactly despite no agenda being against me I knew all was not
lost. This realization came when John told the fact that kale is
horrible. I throw this in my husband's face as he has many a
time been unable to understand why I refuse to eat kale salad
and any other horrid green veggie he can find. And I please
request as much needed shot of karma for my husband my
god gotta get the guy some meat and meat karma for him. Here you
go. Karma This is not good. Met will have a man down soon.
The man down kale overdose man down kale overdose.
I was at the Whole Foods yesterday because Miss Mickey
wanted this particular type of peanut soup. Yeah, so what do
you want us I want the peanut soup from Whole Foods. Okay, I
go get that problem Okay dear. Yeah, it's nice. It's bad in a
bad she's in a poor way. And and I was there meaningless. I
really only had to get the soup you know, so I'm kind of walking
around looking at other things. I just can't afford it. She did.
Blaze cheese. Cheese blocks with cranberry for $18 I shoot
kidding me anyway, and I'm looking all the women there. So,
first of all the dudes are hipster. They got that douchebag
hat on. You know the one I'm talking about. Pork Pie and pork
pie. What is the pork pie?
There's a pork pie hat they like to wear was that Yeah, yeah.
Also app from Burberry. Yeah,
douche bag. And you know, and with the shirt tails out, and
they're sitting the Converse sneakers on. But that's a vest.
Yeah, but they got money. So they're at Whole Foods. And
then, but the women,
that's most of them, and some of them do, but most of them don't
do that. And the reason they don't have money is because they
go to Whole Foods. Yeah.
Well then there's this then the women
unit by the way, by the way, you never see these these hipsters
at the farmers market.
Never. Never, never, never, never ordered wheat. Well, we
have a co op here which just opened up that I'm really that's
the mean screw anything else. Okay, go but now that the women,
they all have a high level of hotness and pick up ability. But
yeah,
while I was staying there, most of them are pretty thin. Because
they're, you know, they don't eat anything. They kale. They
kale. Anyone's throwing up most of the time.
thrown up green kale.
It's like a version of bulimia. Bulimia.
Bulimia. Are you gonna write it down? Kelly Mia? Yeah, but they
all look unhappy. That was gonna be my punch line, because
they've got calenus Yeah, they look unhappy. They just all of
them just have a grouchy growl on their face. Oh, yeah, they
do. It's just it's Wow, it's not this is not a good place to be.
And they've changed Whole Foods now with monitors and stuff and
the aisles are talking to you. It's very creepy. I just creepy.
We're going we gotta wait to build. That's our co op. We'd
like to occasionally
you'll find the ones that have been doing the veganism long
enough. And they have this weird, taller to their skin.
They get these little crosshatch they're like in their 20s. But
their skin looks like it's in his 60s. Yeah. You have to look
carefully. For you. It looks like little spider webs like
webbing. It's got this a name for it. You got to look very
competent. You haven't got enough oil in their system,
whatever. Whatever it is. They don't have they are missing
something for sure.
Yeah, they end up grumpy. And they lose their sense of humor.
And once you lose your sense of humor, I can assure you it's all
over. You're done. What was it called? Again? Bulimia, bulimia.
There goes our free box from healthy surprised, Doc.
Oh, no, he's a fanatic. Just says you're gonna double up on
the kale snacks.
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indeedy. I got a number of things. Do you want to go down
under for just a moment?
Excuse me?
Would you like to go down under for a moment?
We have Australian news? We sure do. In fact, let's
set it up. Australian news. Tough new laws to tackle
motorcycle gangs will
go before Parliament's in the Australian state of Queensland
today, the move is part of a crackdown taking place in
several states against biker gangs. In recent months, there
have been several cases of gang related violence. So for more on
this issue, let's speak now to my colleague, John Donaldson,
who joins us from Sydney. Good to see you, John. Now, this
is a fine piece of slave training legislation, which was
brought to my attention via this BBC report, which I'll play the
rest of in a moment. Also, producer Alex Down Under in
Queensland, sent me the legislation and he actually did
the hello when this happens. Now we have our producers, sending
in PDFs pre marked up for your convenience that are that hit
the show notes. This. This will be an ask John, when this is
done. What do you think this legislation is really about?
Tell us first of all, how powerful are these guys? Well,
they're pretty powerful. And
of course the police say they have connections to drug dealing
organized crime. There's a lot of inter gang violence not just
in Queensland, but in states across Australia. It's estimated
they're around 3500 members of the so called outlaw biker gang
such as the Hells Angels 35 different gangs across the
country. And Queensland is just the latest state really to sort
of say it's hard enough these laws that they're trying to get
through parliament. The State Parliament this week, being
billed as the toughest Australia has ever seen. Large rewards
being offered for information leading to gang activities. The
bikes of any gang member who is convicted will be crushed and
turned into scrap metal restrictions on gang members
wearing their colors or their their leathers in public
letters, the letters there's their letter
writing in large groups and even one saying it no gang member
will be allowed to own a tattoo parlor. It was a bit of a
background to this.
When I heard that when I heard the leathers and tattoo parlor.
I'm like this is a bullshit thing. Something is going on
with this that specific incidents that have triggered
this. Yes. Is there is a motorcycle gangs rampant
throughout Australia. Are they just raping women and pillaging
villages and chopping children's heads off, sir,
just interest to this legislation to to crack down on
the gaps?
Well, this is a long running problem, I think.
Oh, well, you surprise me with that question. 1980s There have
been 100 since the 1980s people killed in gang related murders
and more than 1000 shootings we've had. Let me get this
right. In 30 years 100 people have been killed by gangs. Oh,
wow. Gee, what is statistics
a spate of violence mostly into gang violence rivals, drive by
shootings, that sorts of things in recent months, not only in
Queensland, but also in the state of Victoria. Last week, we
had police in Victoria carrying out raids on more than 60
different properties linked to the Hells Angels gang. And there
they seized a large amounts of guns, weapons, some sort of
military style weapons and
Alright, so this just goes on into bull crap. What do you
think this is really about? What do you suspect is in this anti
motorcycle gang legislation, John?
Well, there's a number of possibilities. And by the way, I
think it's rather peculiar that they crushed the motorcycles
instead of putting them on the market and selling and making
some money for the state.
This is no this is. This is part of the meme to really help you
associate this legislation with it with motorcycle gangs
specifically.
Big Pharma. No,
no. So this is the VR helmet laws. It's better than that.
Okay, this is slave training. 101. I have I have the document
in front of me, I will just highlight a few things, even
though that our producer Alex has highlighted a lot. This
really is the vicious lawless Association disestablishment
bill for 2013. This is not about motorcycle gangs, no, this is
about any group, or association defined as follows. Any group of
three or any group of three or More persons by whatever name
called whether associated formally or informally. And
whether the group is legal or illegal.
At least it is knitting club.
Yes, that's an association that falls under this Act. For this,
for this act, a person is a participant in the affairs if
and I have a couple here, the person has attended more than
one meeting or gathering of persons who participate in the
affairs of the association in any way or has taken part on any
one or more occasions in the affairs of the association in
any other way. And you could do the
quilting club is already on? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And
book clubs, are those women's Shades of Grey? Yes, always at
least five of them.
Now, of course, you can have a club unless one of the persons
in the club is a vicious, lawless associate.
Yeah, I can see that in any quilting club, there's always
one woman in there, that's just a vicious person.
It can be if you commit a declared offense, our
participant in the affairs of an association that commits
offenses. And as a part of this bill, if you are deemed a
vicious, lawless associate, in addition to the fines for the
crime committed, you will get an additional 15 years of sentence
just because of how it's defined in this bill. Now, let's go down
to the next bit here.
I have some of the offenses that you might be interested in
sorry, that didn't Oh, here we go.
Okay, of the Criminal Code, there's a number of things you
can do to have to if you're in a group of three, and if you've
had a meeting more than one meeting, and you have committed
a fray Are you familiar with this word afraid? Oh, no, you
have to explain it a f f ra y A fray an instance of fighting in
a public place that disturbs the peace the bar fight bar fight
yes, if you have attempted to pervert justice, if you commit a
bomb hoax, if you operate a vehicle in a dangerous manner
manner, if you receive tainted property, or if you possess
dangerous drugs are amongst the 25 I have listed here. And if
you're in a group of three or more, and if you call yourself
something, you can get an additional 15 years for any of
these offenses. This is a Slave Act is what this is. Now, the
way I understand that it is only for the province of Victoria.
No it wasn't a Victoria was the other one Victoria is who is
also a problem. Now this
isn't this Queensland isn't Queensland, Queensland. Isn't
that in Victoria?
No, Victoria, I think is a separate province, Queensland.
Yes, Victoria. Yes,
this is Queensland I'm sorry, shows you what I know. This is
this is very disturbing. And the way it's being sold to the
public is a you know, this is this is almost like the EU
protocols on human rights. Unless you know you have the
flu, and then we can arrest you and throw you in jail or any
other communicable disease. You know, you can't be shot dead by
a police officer unless you're running away from the police
officer because clearly you know, then you're dangerous. And
so now if you were afraid and you're in a group of three,
which could easily be don't wear you know, agenda T shirts
together. If there's three of you, if someone has to wear the
twit t shirt to come can wear the no agenda shirt and someone
has to wear something different. So for as much as we are always
looking at Australia and saying wow, those guys got it together.
This sucks. Nice slave training Australia.
Yeah, it's about standing and glad that they're doing
something.
Well I'm glad that we have producers who are wide awake
down there and you can find this marked up legislation in the
show notes 557 dot n a show notes.com.
What? Nothing, I was just I just done I'm in stunned silence.
Every single day. I'm like AC there. Did he drop out?
Paranoid now.
Hey to what I found interesting is the news of Glenn Greenwald.
And Jeremy Scahill. Grant Grunwald leaving the guy Already
in to start up his own organization backed by this the
one of the guys from was it eBay or PayPal eBay wasn't? What's
his name?
I don't know anything about this KIDDING ME Pierre on
on the dark. Oh my god, yeah, you don't get
started but the guy is a total flake he has started a number of
publications. And then out of the blue, as far as I can tell,
he gets bored and then just pulls the funding. Well, so
these guys are going to be left hanging. Oh, no, this is gonna
be swinging in the wind. You hadn't heard about
this. Now? Oh, my God. Oh, this is this is
i Okay. Major point. I didn't hear about it. Okay, so the
so here's the deal. Glenn Greenwald, has announced his
departure from the guardian. He's going to start up a new
online only news venture.
So wait a minute, stop. So let me get this straight. He's with
salon, a huge money losing operation, which is exactly what
you're describing, goes to the Guardian makes a reputation for
himself. He's probably got carte blanche. And he says that screw
this, I'm gonna go back to this to a similar situation that just
loses money. And I'm going to right now I'm going to be losing
the money. But I'll be losing on the on behalf of Peter.
It's Pierre. Pierre Peter. Well, yeah, so what's there's a couple
of things interesting about it. One is this. Pierre actually
wrote about this, and he did a couple interviews. And he says,
Well, you know, give
me $250 million.
This is not okay. Let me give you what he actually said. He
said that he was offered the Washington Post, as well as the
eBay boy, the Amazon boy, what's his name Bezos. And he also I
don't know if he looked first or whatever. But so apparently, he
was like, Well, this is great. They want to win $50 million.
But now I think I'm gonna go do something else. And he has had a
Civil Beat the Honolulu Civil Beat running for a couple of
years, which is a
Oh, that's a runaway breakout hit.
That is a and he's actively involved with that. So he is
kind of, I guess, enjoying being a news, a news guy. So even
though he has not said he's dedicated the presses, even
though he has not said he is dedicating $250 million. He
says, Well, I didn't spend 250 million on the post so that you
could see that as my possible inlay. He has not committed
that.
Well, we're at The Guardian. I'm reading from The Guardian. If
you think there's only sour grapes in The Guardian, in an
interview me, blah, blah, blah. Omidyar said he was committing
an initial 50 mil. Okay, that's yet unnamed venture.
That's not what he's he's quoted as saying in a quoted interview,
but that's okay. For me, what I found interesting was exactly
what you highlight is, salon is essentially a publication that
cost $3 million a year run by sugar daddy, sugar daddy, who is
the chairman of Adobe, whose daughter happens to be the
president of salon or CEO may be I can't remember which one it
is. But you know, so, you know, they they, essentially they
bring in a million dollars in advertising, it costs him 4
million to run the outfit. So he puts in three. And Greenwald
left that. And you're right. He built up a reputation, a
reputation, which I'll I'll add is built with in a collaborative
effort, I think, with editors, and you know, some staff. And
now he has all this stuff. I guess he has a trove. And he's
going to build I don't know if he's going to build it or the
way Pierre says it he says that Poydras and Scahill and I guess
a whole bunch of other people from the
one just hired the staff from Democracy Now. Right. Exactly.
It sounds to me as though what he's doing is he's rare America
is what I'm thinking. Well, I don't think it nothing could be
that bad. Democracy Now. Lisa's hung in there democracy now and
the stuff that you get on the on Pacifica, radio, your KPFA. And
these guys, were, you know, they have to devote at least an hour
a day to Navajo poetry. So, hey,
I resent that. Yeah.
The funny thing is about the Navajo poetry they actually read
it in Navajo. I mean, it's just like cheese. Can you find
something more entertaining than this? Even the Navajo is don't
like it. So right. So he's going to 250 By the way as a lot
because you don't need a lot of money. Yeah, internet era. Your
need for this kind of overhead is 250 is buying the wall.
Washington Post where you have a plant this that online. I mean,
if you can't do a publication with Glenn Greenwald and all
these people for five mil, you know, kind of the budget that
salon has, yeah, I don't know what you're thinking.
I'm thinking a lot of people are gonna be like, hey, Glenn,
you've always thought you were great. It me a job get me a job.
I just don't understand, you know, for a guy who is
everything is important about at the end of the day, turns out
for him, it's not I think the Guardian was certainly letting
giving him free rein on publishing. I don't think he was
curtailed in any way. I think he's able to do his side
projects. So it is ultimately for just like everyone else,
it's for the money. I guess I can't,
if you really wanted to do it, right, he would have done a book
a while he made that may be a part of the deal.
Well, maybe maybe they helped them do that. And it's in the
book should be out by now, by the
way. Yeah. And it's also very possible, the way Pierre says it
himself as part of my analysis from his own blog, as part of my
learning process. He's rich guys. And I think he is actually
the guy who wrote the first eBay code. So I think, you know, this
is kind of a success story, you know, of just kind of a nerdy
guy wrote a wrote some code for an auction site. And really, now
he's available. As part of my learning process. This is listen
to F. Williams, if you get a chance. You know, these guys who
like wrote some code and we're head yeah. Now they're all like,
oh, well, I'm, you know, as part of my learning process. I
recently reached out to Glenn Greenwald to find out what
journalists like him need to do their jobs. Well, as it turns
out, he and his colleagues, Laura Poitras, and Jeremy
Scahill are already on a path to create an online space to
support independent journalists. We had a lot of overlap in terms
of our ideas, and decided to join forces. Oh, my second you
okay. I do that. Can
you wait, okay, she did she been eating kale or anything like
that?
Hold on one second. Let me just check to make sure she's okay.
That sounded like a distress call. Hold on one sec. No, she's
okay.
What happened to her,
I think was just a really loud coffin and hit the noise gate.
And it sounded like a dog being run over. Oh, I'm just I'm just
ready to run in there and see like the bed and flames were
their legs on fire.
Oh, you mean because the spontaneous human combustion?
Yes. That's it starts in that No, no, no, no. You have to
understand how this works. I thought it always starts the
midriff along the the belly, kind of across the center of
your body spread up and down simultaneously. And I thought it
always started in the legs. No, no, no, no, the legs of the last
thing they light up.
What do I know? Now?
If you read about it, this is an actual phenomenon.
This is Gee, I really hope someone has a hold on a second
one second here, Joe. Yeah, today's recording is going to be
very interesting. It'll be fine. Now I'm gonna have to patch
together a million dinars. Oh, you're gonna actually
have to do some post Oh, gee.
Somehow I I still had it set up to start new file. When goes
below a certain level
of audio. You screwed the pooch is what you're telling me.
I have like 20 files. Okay, I can patch them all together to
work out. Don't worry about it. I'll do some work. Hey, you
know, it's not that we have to spend $50 million to build our
operation with I just find this extremely interesting more we
get these free people who now are going to let themselves be
tied down to a billionaire who may have I don't know some kind
of agenda. Who knows? Now, although the guy seems pretty
cool.
He's still like, what he is. Well, he was Mr. Moneybags, they
were in he does have an agenda. They all do.
Well, this is the same guy who I mean, he's in the club with
Jeffrey scoll. You know, of course financed Inconvenient
Truth. But also, you know, did amazing
client. He's like, Yeah, you think there's gonna be any anti
climate? You know? Well, reporting it all.
Well, the question is, what is it going to be? I mean, Glenn
Greenwald, not just not known for his sports reporting, you
know, so is it just going to be all about whistleblowers? Is it
all going to be one
whistleblowers daily from Palo Alto, California. I'm your host.
Exactly. So yeah, this seems. Now it seems dodgy. I'd say,
dodgy, I'd say, dodgy, dodgy very dodgy and surprise you to
know about that I was kind of excited to talk to you about it
and I guess you
could have sent me a heads up like I sent you
John this is like this is huge news I
was huge news is not a huge news to me I'm flabbergasted me like
I care you know, Jesus started another douchebag publication
with a lot way too much money. This is where every time they've
done this by the way the only guys who operate well it was
operate on a shoestring. If you have all this money, I guarantee
the single B A dog they're gonna hire a bunch of guys or aren't
going to do any work because they got the money coming in and
they don't have to worry about making money so they're not
going to be lean and hungry is going to be a piece of crap. I
mean, I can guarantee it. Portfolio did it when Conde Nast
rolled it out, you can see right away that it wasn't going to
succeed because it just had too much money they were just coming
out of their ears are overpaying everybody.
I'm thinking that the whole concept of a network of anything
is just inappropriate in today's age. I don't see the necessity
for Glenn Greenwald to need to be part of a network I mean, if
if Greenwald the way he would the stuff he's doing if he just
said paid support me and my sources, the guy would make a
million bucks.
Well, that's what Solomon did.
Solomon
Solomon, what's his first name? The guy that political common,
Gilbert. Oh, yeah. This is first name.
Gilbert O'Sullivan. Ed Sullivan.
Ed Sullivan.
That's Andrew Sullivan. Think is Andrew isn't it? Andrew
Sullivan. Andrew Sullivan.
All right. Well,
what did he do?
Andrew Sullivan decided he's going to go on his own he's
going to do a pay poor I pay per view not a pay per view. But I
Yeah, firewall publication.
Oh, the dish is that his thing? Is that still?
I don't know if the dish is what it turned out to be. By the way
your volume goes up and down and up and down. It's driving me
nuts. Okay. I have to turn you off. Hang on a second. Now your
sound terrible.
Alright, am I too loud? Yeah, you're 1212 How's this 121212
better well, at least I can hear you because how about this 1212
Is this better one? Okay, it was it was set to automatic on this
computer. I'm sorry. Huh? Isn't that what became the Daily
Beast? Or is that where he
went off? Or he quit all those things to screw it I'm just
gonna write by myself and I want you to pay and he got $650,000
right off the top. Wow. A lot more than we get. Yeah. Oh,
that's right that 650 grand plus I don't know if he can sustain
it. These are all subscriptions and they're all 25 bucks
subscriptions or something like that. But he had a pretty big
audience and he was well marketed himself very well yeah.
And I don't see why Greg Greenwald could do the same
thing and he you know make a million dollars a year or at
least for a while got sick of reading the same thing over and
over
he would have enough well he would have an operating budget
which is really what you want you know you want a budget to be
able to operate arm to you know to travel I guess he has to
travel in his he has his sources and stuff like that. But in
general what are the costs really when you have a brand and
which I think he carefully built I'd say some of it off salon but
at The Guardian is really where he came into the the mainstream
view and he's just been you know, you go on every single new
show and your you're the authority on something. You Why
Why ruin it with an Uber Lord, why ruin it with colleagues for
Christ's sake why why would you even want to have Poydras and
and Scahill sucking off your dime.
Yes, gay Hills definitely. incredibly competitive. He does
movies. He's much better as a Harem Scarem type of person in
interview shows. He gets on there and scares the crap out of
you. Greenwald bores you with his monotone died too bad but
bad but he keeps getting interrupts you he's not
interesting compared to Scahill Scahill is very entertaining.
When you hear him you go, Oh my God, all these things are
happening. What we're gonna do, we're all gonna die, right?
Whereas greenwall is just like monotone monotone monotone.
Meanwhile, the mainstream media certainly in the United
Kingdom's of Gitmo nation east to have their own strange way of
spicing up their news coverage. This is from the News Hour,
which I would say is a reasonably prestigious program.
This is a download from the BBC. To find out more and our Terms
of Use, go to BBC World service.com/podcast This is Tim
Franks
with news hour recorded on the 14th of October at 20 as GMT.
Coming up, we begin a week of special programs with prominent
female guest editors. This is
Chelsea Clinton, Vice Chair of the Clinton Foundation in New
York. I'm in the news, our editor's chair today as part of
the BBC 100 Women's season, we'll be looking at attitudes
towards the ivory trade in China.
So Chelsea Clinton, you kidding me? She's now the special guest
editor of the news hour. Yeah, I know. It's Wow. Yeah, I know.
It's bad,
big man.
And not in our favor, buddy.
No. Ah, we maybe should do some of that. You know that I'm gonna
start a new segment of the show besides the other segment. Yeah.
Which you're looking for this embedded stuff. So I'm watching.
I'm watching the Ki o n. And so they they have the out of the
blue in the middle of the new show. They bring out those Wells
Fargo what is K Ionis? That station is the channel is the
NBC affiliate in Salinas, California. Okay, gotcha, as in
the valleys. And so and so it's kind of locals kind of local
hick. It's a hick version of the NBC stuff compared to KR, we're
not careful and
K Hicks as an redneck or
just kind of silliness, you know, can be alright, we get no
donor. So
Salinas is where Bill and Ted are from. Excellent Adventure.
Yeah, they were from Salina
at figures. So they bring this guy on, and then essentially
just a plug for Wells Fargo, they have, it's a two people in
his own phone bank, you could call it as crazy. And so but
just play this and that, and there's a little irksome aspect
to this
center, and our friends from Wells Fargo are here, and
they're helping you at home, determine what is a good time
for your children to start saving. And I'm here with Luis
Dominguez, so we wanted to ask you that question. You know, a
lot of a lot of you are out there thinking you could call us
here, the phones aren't ringing. So if you want free information,
call the number on the bottom of your screen. But Luis, tell us
when is a good time for children to start saving? What should you
tell parents
they want? Ideally, I would say as soon as the child is born is
the best time because just like with anything, the longer that
you can save, the better it is. However, I would say the best
time is right now. There's no reason to wait. And it doesn't
matter how old the kids are, right now, it'd be the best time
because if you haven't already started saving, then the longer
you wait, the later it becomes. So as soon as you can start,
that's the best time.
Okay, so Okay, when they're born, what do they understand
when they're born? I mean, what would you tell parents? What do
you do when you have a child eat them
out? That's a great question.
Great question.
Short is not a great question.
It's an idiotic question.
What do you do as soon as they're born?
The kid he goes on, he says the kids can't really they don't
understand saving. So what should you do it and the guy
says, this is a great question is not a great question. I don't
get these people with. That's a great question.
Board. I mean, what would you tell parents? What do you do
when you have a child? Yeah, that's
a great question. And
how's that? A great question. I'm asking you.
It's not a great question. It's just not it's the only reason
it's a great question is because it put the the guy from the bank
in the in the in frame for another three seconds for the
commercial. isn't, you know, this, I'm seeing a lot of this,
I'm seeing a lot of the bank making it hard for you to have
your money. Chase is doing something where if you deposit
more than $50,000 in cash in a week, if you have a cash cash
business, like a restaurant, then you that's not allowed
unless you are upgraded to a new type of business account, which
of course, you know, then gives you the right to do 100,000.
It's like they're just coming up with ways to restrict what you
can do with your money. And when your money's in the bank. I
mean, what is this great percentage rate we get one that
tells us that much even that much. Yeah. And I saw the I keep
getting offers from from Chase for the Sapphire card. Have you
seen this? No. Oh my god. So put in $50,000 into a savings
account. Okay, I don't have that. But alright, let's presume
I had $50,000. And I put it into a chase savings account. I will
get the Sapphire card which is a credit card made of metal.
And I like that that's which is a take off on the AMEX black,
black correct. And I'm seeing people and then
what difference does it make if it's made of metal?
Well, because it's a very pretty card. I mean, it's it's it has
this blue royal kind of purplish blue hue to it. Take a look and
then People will draw some faces from Chase. Yeah. And so I've
seen people pay with this card and they will throw it down
nonchalantly or drop it and go no, it has this like
this. Yes metal
and people go oh yes, this is my sapphire card.
This you know, these things is that that blue ish looking?
Yeah, she card. Yes sapphire 20 Oh crap. Yeah. Is the card work
or not?
Miserly my mind doesn't always
have to be harder for them to cut the car. Mine doesn't always
seem to work.
By your estimation, John, how long have we been broadcasting?
If you take out the stops we had?
Is it time for our donations lasted about two to three
minutes each. Okay, is
it time for the donation segment because I've lost all the way
over during
the donation segment. I was just waiting for you to cut to it.
Oh, here we go. I'm gonna show my son moved by donate to no
agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah,
that'd be fun
indeed. So we do have a few people to thank Andrew Holcomb
in Ann Arbor, Michigan 100 came in with $125 and silently
requested karma yesterday and it arrived Nice. Thank you. Here's
the donation to confirm that karma and supporting to confirm
that karma works and to support your hard work gentleman
thank you so much that's very kind of you and then we cut
right to the chase Oh wow. Oh, yeah, that was I was not was not
expecting it. Here we go.
Tight again. Today. Yeah. Meanwhile, we have a black night
I apparently because Craig Porter in Jacksonville, Florida.
Donated 6969 And she'll fight for the six hundreds who was not
announced as a night I think this is because I changed my Pay
Pal email after I was knighted. I was knighted on show two 328.
So he's got another knighthood. What's the deal? Now Chase Pay
Pal and bla bla. He wants to be called a knight and Sir Craig
Porter under this donation. So he needs to be renamed.
Yes, we have we have him on the list for Yeah, we have him on
the list for a ceremony today.
Eric Thorson, Bergen. Hordaland and Norway. 6969. These are all
6969 P Bo in Maastricht PIM as he calls it. Nope. Just he would
like it. Psalm 6969. Carmen, I suggest you give it to him.
Yes. Because that is the end of our 69 Okay, here we go. You've
got karma 66. Did
we get down to one and this that little guy yelling 6969 Dude, we
had somebody complaining that we threatened to kill it. We're
gonna kill it.
No, it's when it's over. It's done. Because I don't want to do
6969 to 61 guy and then the play The thing again? That's very
dumb. Yeah, we'd rather have 6666 which is now we have 6666
people including Lucas. Z.
Z. Z one. Yeah, that's what I'd say.
You Nick munition Deutschland Andrew Gardner in Charlotte
Hall, Maryland, harsh shod Patel in Bilston West Midlands. Brian
Watson in Sugar Grove, Illinois. Terry Floyd in San Leandro,
California. I do have a note from him. And he did write it in
my head with a hand of handwritten longhand cursive
out some I don't know where it is lost it. Where's the note?
Wow, that's working out great. That
sounds like I'm like, I feel like a bureaucrat. I got all
these things printed out. I got the lists. I got the note. And
the note seems to have disappeared off the face of the
earth. Wait a minute. Hold on one second. Could be in here. A
bit. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Great.
Yeah. Do you want me to just to continue while you're looking
for that, or is there anything I can do to help?
It's not here. It's not here. It was just again.
Terry Floyd.
Terry Floyd. Yeah, he says no, and he signed it at the bottom.
I don't have the note anymore. I'll maybe find it by the end of
this section. Good work. Sorry.
I had to note it's annoying. It's okay. We'll come back to
Terry
I need a rubber stamp or something or I need I need to
filing some I need a system. Oh wait a minute. I found a note. I
know it and we will read some of these notes when they hand
shipped. In the morning I donated a Bitcoin to Adam back
when you guys accepted them but decided I owed you something
more after the outstanding work you have to have done generated
and generated over the past few months. I sat on this check for
too long. And this stinks, by the way, but check. You sat on
it too long. Okay, it wasn't funny. Before I decided to send
it out now that I heard your analysis of the Silk Road take
down Adam was right on the money. There are several fishy
and contradictory details in the affidavits from Maryland and New
York filed against the Dread Pirate Roberts by the way, we
haven't followed up on that
guy. Well, I keep seeing cartoon drawings, you know, because I
guess he's, they bring in front in front of some judge
somewhere, which apparently press is not allowed because
Ooh, that will be too scary. So I keep seeing drawings of him.
So I guess he's real. And he denies that he's even Dread
Pirate Roberts. He's not he's denying. He's denying that he's
that And the crazy thing, Bitcoin $155. Now this thing is
going back to an all time high. So this whole exercise is fishy.
On Adams recommendation, I said about this bid message client
and fired off a note to him, but I have yet to receive a reply. I
am the one who answers my email. I really liked this tool. And
you can see a lot of potential you know, you can publish a
newsletter using bit messaging, you won't have to deal with any
Google spam filters. True. Okay, well, the
problem with the bid message is I am so I have everything loaded
on a USB stick, which is kind of the preferred method so you can
just stick it into any computer and fire up your bit message
stick it Yeah. And but if you don't after two days, any
messages sent to you get deleted nightmare. Sometimes I forget. I
forget to stick it in.
There you have it you get older. Yeah. You forget to stick it in
shame. O'Hare. Shane O'hare and was Silla Alaska. Or Arkansas.
It's Alaska. Silla.
We're still in Alaska. Yeah, that's
where what's your name is from Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin. The
defense 5560 William front goglia In Cornelius North
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Wesley Bauman in are Bowman in council Grove, Kansas. Matthew
Stevens in Fort Worth, Texas. We're up the street from you,
Josh McDonald and Brunswick, Victoria, Australia and finally
Jetson noble in Oxford, Mississippi and Gary parks in
Oxnard, California. Plus, Chris Slowinski our old buddy in
Sherwood Park, Alberta where all the money is and Philip Mason in
powe's. That'll be our donation segment for show 557
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Yes, indeed. Oh,
hopefully you miss me. He'll be better by then. Better
because I'm sure she'll be fine. Tomorrow. Three, day three.
She's not looking too good. She was okay. A lot of these things
last about three days. Just lay off the kale.
I think it's the kale that did it.
So I gotta get kind of a grape local. play this clip and then I
want to I want to deconstruct this a little bit and read and
so because my conclusion about this kind of thing is just
annoying. PAL I'm sorry. It would be nice if you knew what
the clip was. Yeah, what helped write Palo Alto Emergency Alert
System.
Okay, meanwhile, my computer's a little wonky. We got
some Peninsula residents were surprised by an emergency
message they received. Yes, I'm 27,000 Palo
Alto residents got this noisy smartphone emergency alert about
of all things. A charity pancake breakfast, obviously was not an
emergency KPI X fives Len Ramirez spoke to some people who
say the fire department is abusing this system.
The instant message went out on the county's emergency
notification system to 10s of 1000s of people in Palo Alto all
at once I got the alert in three ways. I got a text an email a
phone call under the header alert sec. The Palo Alto Fire
Department sent out word that they were a holding a pancake
breakfast Saturday morning and be that a helicopter would be
landing at a local school for demonstration purposes only. In
retrospect if I had to do it again, I probably would have put
the helicopter in the first or second sentence fire chief Eric
Nikhil defended using the alert system which was designed
primarily for major emergencies and Sesa when the system is
homepage for the community event which benefited projects safety
net. Yeah, I've
been following this and as you know, I've got some some some
info so I can
well project safety net is the key here Yes. What is this
project safety net and in fact LD there's a bunch of these
things going on in Palo Alto and they tend to be oriented or
about the as they put it on if you start digging around the
websites, and I thought it was interesting because they keep
changing is the LG bt TQQ community. Cute double que Yes,
double
que quiere and Queenie
questioning that would be you my friend. Ah,
I'm questioning I prefer by curious but questioning is I
think I fall in that I do fall in this category.
There's also LGBT que si. And I and there's a bunch of other
ones. And so I started looking into this and realizing that
apparently the the LGBTQ community has taken over the
emergency system. And they're the ones making these broadcasts
because they were so important. And I realized, you know, it's
so funny to follow this this the history of this moniker. And
there's a really good page, LGBT web page on the Wikipedia. And
of course I'm always reminded when I was working at WME VO and
Brooks who's a fairly notorious gay guy there was there he was
he always said he never could figure out when it happened when
they changed it from GLB T to LGBT
one that uses be gay and lesbian uses to be just began lesbian,
but then the lesbians didn't like that. At first it was gay
and because lesbians are gay, but the lesbians didn't like
that, because they didn't want to be associated with the men
with penis. So they have to exist. So they had to make it.
And then you know, GLBT was because the Baiser irked. And so
were the transgenders. And so now everybody's irked. And it
doesn't seem to be like a group with cohesion, even though they
have a party once in a while. It seems like they just at each
other's throats. And there's a bunch of crazy stuff that goes
on including these, you know, the third gender identity, which
is one of these things that's that's being promoted in India.
And so you end up with,
well hold on, what about CBT i
h, because Hijra ha j are a third gender identity has its
own subculture. And so this is getting really carried away with
all this kinda. And I would recommend people reading the
entire page of the LGBT page on Wikipedia, because it discusses
kind of the history of this. And I just find the whole thing to
be I don't know if it's laughable, but why are they
sending out emergency messages for a pancake breakfast? Have
you ever been to a pancake breakfast? No ludicrous. It's a
bunch of cheap pancakes with a bunch of cheap, the cheapest,
there's no real maple syrup there. I guarantee it even in
Palo Alto, it'll be some sort of high fructose corn syrup mixture
that you dump on there with a bunch of cheap butter or
margarine and then you eat this in public
while people are watching you
know I scold the LGBTQ Q community for
Boris using this system. So let me understand by the way,
I expect Amber Alerts to have advertisements within the next
five years I'm putting it in the Red Book.
I was received a couple of screenshots from the so first of
all, this is all part of the commercial mobile alert system
cm a s and CMAs also known as wireless emergency alerts, you
know as we know they work through the cell tower system
and they're broadcasting to you directly we got another we got
another one of these I'm Nikki's phone the other day because it
has almost been raining kind of like nonstop for a couple of
days here and awesome but really you know flash flooding etc and
this is all part of the giant voice system as we know it as
the you know the slave training tools which will tell you to
shelter in place cower in the corner
or you get this is the giant voice system on Saturday there
will be a pancake breakfast
Yeah, exactly. He sent us a second I've got it I saved him
here in the show notes so in the Canadian system on Android
because this as far as I know right now I've only seen this on
the iPhone I haven't seen it on the on the new Android so he has
it's just crazy. So there's you can set your preferences. So
Cell Broadcast settings. Here's the preferences, show extreme
threats and these are all checked by default of course,
which I'm reading directly from the screen show extreme threats
display alerts for extreme threats to life and property.
I'm going to uncheck that one that was That sounds boring.
Show severe threats. Display alerts for severe threats to
life and property that's checked by default show Amber Alerts,
display child abduction emergency bulletins, turn on
notifications altogether. And then you can select the alert
sound duration which is four seconds by default BBB BBB BBB
vibrate on alert and also speak alert message use text to speech
to speak emergency alerts. And then we have the E TW s
settings. Do I have these here? Yes. Display test broadcasts for
earthquake tsunami warning system. Show see M A 's test
broadcasts, which is displayed test broadcasts for the
commercial mobile alert system and show the opt out dialog at
the end. Which says show an opt out dialog after displaying the
first CMAs alert other than presidential alerts. You see
when when the food or talks then, obviously you know we
can't turn that one off. To this is just another great reason why
I don't carry a cell phone anymore. This is insanity. And
you're right, getting pancake breakfast commercial messages.
I'm still kind of thrown by the queue thing.
That I can't complain as much anymore
because I'm questioning but now I'm part of the group.
You're part of This group does crowd
outlet. Is that what they're called outlet? outlet is an
LGBTQ youth organization. Oh, I can't be youth. But I could be a
big brother at outlet.
Yeah, you could.
Hi, kids. Hi. And
they're here to support and empower the LGBTQ Q
I've been questioning all my life. Is there anyone here who
could help push me over the edge,
there's a bunch of these things in Palo Alto is another reach
out.com Reach Out is run by the Inspire USA foundation. Look
that one inspires mission is to help millions of young people
lead happier lives. There's a money sponge. There's another
one. ACS just for teens, adolescent counseling service
empowers teens and their families in our community to
realize their emotional and social potential through
counseling and preventative preventative education, whatever
that means that as long as you're not black, you can go to
that. The Trevor Project is the leading national organization
providing crisis intervention and suicide prevention services
for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and questioning
youth. So I guess the questioning user also suicidal.
Palo Alto has got issues. Yeah, no kidding. Wow. And it was just
named the best place in the world to live. If you can afford
it. Yes, the most expensive place in the Bay Area, generally
speaking less you go to Hillsborough. Anyway, that's my
little
gripe for now. That's,
that's good. And it looks like I finally got an email titled Red
Book denial. Like what? Yeah, so this red book, this RB, what is
it RRD BK dotnet. So apparently, one of the Red Book entries that
we have in our official red book went on his website. And my read
would prediction was deputy director of the National
Security Agency, John C. Inglis will become the next Secretary
of Homeland Security replacing Janet Napolitano when she
leaves. Now we've had no replacement. As far as I know,
and the news came out that Kaiser Alexander is quitting.
Yes, along with his second in command, John C. Inglis and yeah
and then so someone went on the red book site and said I think
it's safe to say this is not going to happen now that he's
being forced out you're denied I don't Yeah, yeah. And then I got
an email like I'm denied and it's not true that they could
see you
denied because what it says it's it says denied on the website
denied me
I don't know. This is the this is the site anyway said denied.
So I guess that mean to my my red book entry has been denied.
I don't know what that means. What was your red book entry?
What I just told you that
England was gonna go to Homeland Security? Yeah.
I think it's so possible. Yeah, sure it is.
So why would it be denied? Well,
this is why I don't like it. Okay, well, you mentioned it's
not gonna get any more approval. If Adam Curry who has read book
authorization phase, I asked secret authorization to actually
use the red
clearance. Whenever he says goes in there I have red book
clearance.
He has total clearance for the Red Book. So whatever he says he
can be full of crap, which is possible. It still goes in the
red book to be used later as a pointer. He was full of crap on
this No, that's terrible.
I don't think I think it's still good they maybe they use the
wrong IP address. Maybe
they saw you as just some interloper, not the real Adam
curry.
Regardless of that, it is of course very interesting to see
Alexander saying he's going to leave in six months along with
English and I will say that the smart thing for these guys to do
would be to start their own consulting company they've set
up beautifully it's
gonna go right to work probably for for Sharecare Tov
you think we'll go straight because because this guy they
actually they don't call him Kaiser
let's face he's not an entrepreneur. Take a look at
him. But as a guy as a students, church office operation just do
some lobbying, and probably take a few records of of them if you
know what I'm saying. You know, be kind of the official
blackmailer for the for the place got
some info. Yeah. He was they used to call him Alexander the
geek. When he was a kid,
it's all geeky wouldn't have that Star Trek thing. Take that
with him. Yeah,
he's a break that down and put that in the truck. They called
him the Emperor actually, I've been reading I've been reading
up on his on his past. And that is what they would what they
would call him inside the hallowed walls in DC they call
him Emperor Alexander. So we actually by calling him Kaiser
we're actually close. Close but I think Emperor is above Kaiser,
isn't it?
I think they're equal.
Toes Yeah, that's that's surprising yet. Is it really I
mean, here's the guy who has has the goods on everybody. He has
built this, this army now that and is frightened all these
nincompoops in Congress about the horrible threats to our
world. And, and he and his cronies are just sitting there
lying. And no one calls him on it and they just get to phase a
pitch. It'd be a big party to when they leave. They can't they
get the huge party, and it's rolling for himself. But if I
was him, I wouldn't go to work for Chertoff. I think I'd start
my own gig. I think he could do it. I think he has the goods on
enough people. Don't you think?
Yeah, no, if I would, if you were him, you would start your
own thing and you'd have like a five person operation it'd be
kind of, you know, an intelligence security operation
be a little different than shortstops operation, I believe.
But you know, that other guy, Hayden, you know, went over to
work for Chertoff and he's kind of the CIA guy he was the head
of the NSA for a while and he felt fit right in and he'd be
the guy that would kind of cajole Alexander the guy coming
over here you know you can always start your own thing
later but you want to get the you know, you want to get you
want to get your feet wet you want to get the west you would
you'd like to see if you like it here you might like it here I
won't have to start your own thing. We got plenty of money
boy,
right build build up your your Rolodex,
get your creds, and you know
I love I love the we got plenty of money Boy, that's my
favorite. You got plenty of money boy.
So, you know, is it he'll do okay? And I don't I just don't
see him. You know, being the top guy church officer is the
bullcrap artists that can really you know do some damage you
know, he's he's a good frontman. He is hardcore, like the devil.
You know, as he does that a skull for a face. It's horrible.
scare the crap out of you. So you have a horse problem in the
western states. A horse problem? Yeah, horse problem, play wild
horse problem.
There is renewed controversy in New Mexico over a plan to reopen
horse slaughterhouses, which have been banned in this country
for six years. Hari Sreenivasan has our report about what's
triggered this debate and then bring them on in along the fence
line but several times a week this summer, residents of the
Navajo Indian Reservation in New Mexico mapped out a game plan.
They set up a temporary pen and then headed out by horseback and
ATVs to round up groups of wild horses that have become a threat
to the livelihood of farmers and ranchers here.
These horses are bouncing in between ranches in between
homesteads. They're again eating the forage drinking the water
each horse feral horse we estimate eats anywhere between
five and 18 pounds of forage a day. They drink between five and
15 gallons of water a day.
Bernie za spokesman for the tribe estimates that feral
horses that is horses that run wild but at one time were
domesticated cost the Navajos $200,000 a year in damages.
There are approximately 70,000 of them in northwestern New
Mexico alone and Zaha says they're putting a tremendous
strain on the land and resources land that is already struggling
from a catastrophic drought. I say
Edom well that's what we're trying to do. But the animal
rights folks don't seem to care about and you know, they think
that you know, a lot of people eat horse meat. A lot of
cultures I mean they do in China they do and Slovenia is like a
big horse meat even though they don't like to admit it to
outsiders. And I went to a horse meat specialty steakhouse when I
was there and had a big slab of sirloin horsemeat which was kind
of dance I guess I did Slovenians I don't know it's not
that I don't dislike horse meat, but it's not something I mean it
makes a good talk so I had in Mexico
I've had have had that's fine with me i also have no problem
with it. I'm not I don't have problem I don't have a problem
with the thought of it. I mean, there was a big thing recently
like a couple months back in the UK. The horse meat is in
everything and it's a Tescos and it's at Burger King and it said
yeah Mac King Berg burgers obviously coming in
from outside the country because they banned somehow but played
this play this out that play horse part two
round ups, in which horses are chased across open land into
makeshift corrals and then loaded into trailers to head to
auction Many of the horses end up in slaughterhouses in Canada
and Mexico, their meat exported to China or Europe, where unlike
the US, horse meat is regularly consumed. The United States shut
down horse slaughterhouses in this country six years ago when
it prohibited federal funding for inspectors. But recently
Congress removed it was the law of the land. And this summer,
the USDA awarded the first permit that would allow horse
slaughter to resume in the US. It was a decision that ignited a
nationwide debate about the practice of killing horses for
me. Wow, I
can just I can just see this I can already see it come in here
and Texas has gonna be protests and it's all sad. I can see
this.
Llama but people shouldn't discuss this the next dinner.
Yeah. Oh, the poor horsey. You can eat a horsey. So play part
three, and you have a couple a second comments.
Rios concedes that humane euthanasia and population
control are very expensive remedies. Euthanasia costs
roughly $300 per horse, and that's not including the cost to
round it up. Right now. Contraception for wild horses is
difficult to administer. It involves shooting darts from
helicopters, the treatment that must be reinjected every two
years. Rios is opposed to slaughter, but she says it's not
a simple issue. She says horses are dying every day in trucks as
they're shipped out of the country and on the range land
when they run out of food. She thinks the government has been
delinquent by not spending enough money to deal with the
problem. It's inhumane to let animals starve to death
dehydrate to death. procreate.
Excuse me, isn't that the definition of inhumane is
animals. It's an inhumane means not treated like a human. Well,
it's as you say, it's inhumane to treat animals that way. Isn't
that like some kind of paradise
that we have? Now you brought this up? I have to we have to
look it up. I'm
gonna finish the last 16 seconds
procreate at a level that the environment is unable to
support. So that's why at the shelter, we wouldn't just say we
were against slaughter, we are for humane alternatives.
Cremation, what are the human doing?
When I say we should bring wolves back to whatever?
What humane alternatives do we have for animals? This is going
this is
inhumane means lacking pity or compassion. It's got nothing to
do with anything.
Well, Oh, okay. I thought the word human was in there.
Yeah, well, no, it means lackey. Not acting like a like as
compassionate human. Without compassion for misery or
suffering. Period. Okay, not about people. No. Okay.
It seems it seems like maybe that has.
And it says here it as part of the definition confining wild
horses is inhuman, whatever you do is inhumane. But anyway,
they've sued to stop the slaughterhouse. And they have
all kinds of reasons why and that meanwhile, these horses are
being shipped out to Mexico are there they're just such a great
job down there. You can count on that. And so the but it's, you
know, they have an injunction and this whole thing is going
on. We have too many horses that need to be eaten. And they're
running all over the place. You have people starving in the
streets. We have homeless that would love to have a horse
steak. But no,
we have people eating mac and cheese. Yeah, people are going
69 cent mac and cheese at 39 cent. Mac and cheese dinners.
Anyway, that's just I did I just thought that was an interesting
situation. I didn't realize there was 70,000 of them there.
They're apparently just a quarter of a million to a
million wild horses running around. Wow. Well. Here's
another I got one more. Okay,
I have some other stuff that I got.
Did they finally gave the Medal of Honor to this one soldier.
Did you see that ceremony? Yeah, that was creepy.
Well, it was creepy because they didn't want to give the guy the
award. But they already gave it to one of the Marines that was
involved with it
as they gave it to the guy who then they took it back and they
arrested him and they accused him of lying and as all this
crazy stuff going on this. This whole thing is a debacle, this
medal of honor. So now they have for the first time in like 200
years. They've given the Medal of Honor to two guys from the
same battle. Yeah, right. Yeah. Okay.
Well, they didn't want to give it to this guy who was the the
captain I believe. And so play part one of this and then the
what I thought was funny about this, essentially, the rationale
that the army finally came out with was the dog ate the
homework
because to surrender, so well stops treating kind of long
enough to respond by lobbing a grenade. And finally, after more
than an hour and a half of fighting air support arrives.
A helmet cam worn by a crewman in a medevac helicopter showed
Swenson kissing the sergeant's head to reassure him. Westbrook
ultimately died, joining the four Americans 10 Afghan troops
and an interpreter killed in the ambush. Another man involved in
that fight. Marine Corporal Dakota Meyer was awarded his
medal of honor in 2011. The Pentagon is now investigating
allegations that Swensons nomination was delayed because
he criticized superiors over the handling of the battle. The
military says his paperwork was lost.
You know, they literally deleted this guy's name from the
database inside the Pentagon. Yeah, like like took his name
out?
Well, it was one of the congressman from Missouri up in
Washington state whose cladding that apparently supposedly
helped. But play part two and the there's a little rundown by
with this other guy that discusses some of these issues.
To help fill in this story. I'm
joined now by David Nakamura of The Washington Post. He's
interviewed Swenson many times. And while this is a story of
uncommon heroism, is it also fair to say that it was an
uncommon path to today's metal ceremony? Absolutely. It's been
a long four years right for will Swenson he has left the military
two years ago, and he went back to his native Seattle where he's
from where he went to college. And he has really kept a low
profile. In part, I think because of the controversy
surrounding his award. There is a lot of allegations that the
army was concerned about his criticism concerned about what
kind of representation he would give. He was on a public stage
like this. However, there's been pressure from outside, both from
reports and in the media, but also a US Congressman got
involved asking what happened to this nomination. He deserves the
award. He's got it today. He stood up there, like a good
soldier and accepted the award and that was back in his
uniform. So it was a very powerful moment. The President
touched on it lightly as he did as he does it all medal
ceremonies, he told the story of how this award came to be. It
took a long time for those men to get air support when they
were pinned down by those snipers. Absolutely our our
reporting show that it's about took about 90 minutes probably
understand from eyewitnesses of people involved in the ambush,
90 minutes of pure fighting. There's were 11 or so us
trainers with Afghan National Army troops and border police
who were allied with the US but we're not completely under our
command. And so some of those folks just ran off in the battle
the US soldiers got and Marine Corps got separated from one
another, which was a part of the problem. Their communication was
cut off at one point. And so they were really expanded on the
battlefield for a long time. It took two hours for wills Swenson
and his men to move back they suffered casualties including
Kenneth Westbrook as the video showed, and that was a problem
and they eventually were able to regroup, go back out, and they
found the former three Marines and a Navy corpsman who had been
killed unfortunately, what are some
anyway so they go on and talk about why did it take an hour
and a half and supposedly somebody was reprimanded but
they won't say who fairly this was under MIT crystals watch by
the way who had changed the rules of engagement the rules of
engagement to being some weird
now here's the disgusting thing about this as the the dead
soldiers were just you know no no arriving ceremony no flag
draped coffin no salutes no oh yeah no what happens but and
then you don't see it on the news? No the President is not
there that left that's forbidden it's opening we can't show the
dead people don't show the dead children mr. president press
corps
shameful episode in the Army's you know, typical beer some
bureaucrats got in the middle and they had to you know, they
were gonna be embarrassed by their by the guys that
apparently I don't know why they did. There's still no
explanation for why in air support.
I'm not sure why we're discussing it other than I'm
just disgusted by
the way we're discussing it because it's a good story.
It'd be Oh, no, that's what I mean. But it's creepy. It is
creepy. Orly creep. How'd this happen? I mean, the package I
had was I actually titled it creepy Medal of Honor package.
Just want to hear it just a little bit of this play the
whole thing repeat of
compassion and loyalty to a brother in arms.
Westbrook dies a month later at Walter Reed but Swenson stayed
in touch with his family who were at the ceremony today.
I looked into a room that was there to support me this guy
I have to say, it was kind of what creeped me out the guy who
won the medal.
But I went there to support them and I will continue to be there
to support them. My colleagues,
the families of the fallen, listen to him as powerful
moment.
So was September 8 2009. US forces got ambushed by 60
Taliban enroute to meet Villa Two elders.
Maybe it was just creepy looking at it. I'll stop it now.
Well, maybe it was creepy because the guy's still irked.
Yeah, yeah. The way he just become bitter. Yeah, the way he
was talking. And
he sounded like he was talking like someone who had just was
about to blow. And he knew better. Yeah. So he made it
clear that he was not a happy camper. I have. So here's one
for
you. Here's one for you. But you've done three in a row. Now
I'm doing
this will be three in a row. But I just want to ask you this
question. This is an ask Adam actually, this is the IHT
rebranded, I went I'm gonna ask in advance, why would anyone in
their right mind do what just happened?
And outdoors, the International Herald Tribune incomes, the
International New York Times after 126 year run, the IHT is
rebranded.
You're like you're the one of the world's experts on brands.
Yes, I am. That's correct. I am a brand expert, Nike would be
nowhere without me. In fact, I said, Hey, just do it. And then
that became pretty famous.
So why would they do this? For one thing when you're overseas?
I mean, the New York Times when you subscribe to The New York
Times, I don't care where you are. But if they I get, I used
to have it come in here now. And they have it on Sundays. And
actually, I forgot to pay for it. So they don't even send me
that anymore. But I'll sell it to pay eventually. Because I do
like to do the online research with it. Whatever the case, when
I get to New York Times, and I open it and start reading it, I
know I'm reading a New York City newspaper about what's going on,
mostly in New York. They got the art museums, they got Broadway
plays, it kind of makes you think you're kind of like maybe
a little bit in New York, it feels a little cosmopolitan.
Yes, of course. Now, when you're overseas, and you see the
International Herald Tribune, it's an international paper
about everything all over the place, even though
but it is written and published by The New York Times
Corporation, correct. And
it was actually a joint venture with them in the Washington Post
for a long time and the Washington Post gave up. But so
what but it's still a brand that has been around for over 100
years. Why would you change it to the International New York
Times? It makes no sense. New York is about New York what
would you put the name New York on it the international times
would make sense. So I'm asking you on a branding basis what
what is what's the thinking here?
Sounds to me like we have a pending sale or investment or
something else is happening that is exterior to this and either a
board member had a great idea that sounds like someone who has
no idea what they're doing is doing something in fact, maybe
Eleanor Clift is running the New York Times. Listen to this.
Well, this is one of the big problems now you've got a race
to be first whether you're tweeting or you're on the air or
you're writing a blog or what are writing a story. You've got
so many demands as journalists now on your l&r, you're at The
Daily Beast you're doing this do you have somebody editing, every
tweet, every story, every word that you owe?
Nobody edits the tweets as far as I know. Nobody edits. No, no.
In fact, I say to myself every day Eleanor think less tweet
more.
There you go. That's the slogan ladies and gentlemen, think less
tweet more. It's this woman. Clip of the Day it goes on
because I don't tweet enough. Really scary. You trust yourself
and I was just talking about masturbation. Don't do it.
I mean, I tweet fairly erect. Just replace
tweet with this story is much better for Eleanor. Oh, come on,
Elena. Oh, come on. You're stuck
writing a story. You've got so many demands as journalists now
on your l&r. You're at The Daily Beast, you're doing this. Do you
have somebody editing every tweet, every story? Every word
that you owe?
Nobody edits the tweets, as far as I know. No, no. In fact, I
say to myself every day, Eleanor think less tweet more because I
don't tweet enough. Really scary. Well, no, you have to
kind of trust yourself and put, I don't do it. I mean, I tweet
fairly irregularly. But in today's world, we are encouraged
to tweet to get our stories out there or promote our colleagues.
And if we're analysts and pundits, we should we should get
our thoughts out there. I've never done anything or said
anything that's career ending yet. We're all about two steps
away from Actually
Actually I think she has said something career ending on the
Twitter constitutional. That was her tweet.
So she said that nobody edits her tweets that she knows up.
Does she know how this even works?
Because she's she actually writes down in longhand. And
then she goes and she counts with a pen 123456 720 Good. And
she hands it off to someone they go then and tweet.
That's sounds like it. Let's take a look. Look at Eleanor
Cliff's Twitter
Thank you I had this is something this is this is why
we're a great team John
man BC polls find Obamacare gaining popularity since shut
down. Thank you How's Repubs for doing better job selling the ACA
than the White House blasts from the past New York Times digs
down into the GOP shutdown strategy and finds Ed Meese
Reagan era hardline ag back in vogue.
She's fantastic. Is this all down one,
tweet number three, Someone should tell the House
Republicans the definition of insanity is doing the same thing
over and over and expecting a different result.
Wow, that is that is just stellar stuff.
So it goes on with these sorts of lame it's not even good Obama
bots stuff is. Yeah. There's one here is just out of the blue
nose. Jen. She doesn't read tweets. She doesn't answer
anybody's to you know you're supposed to do. She's not even
good at this. She's just out of the blue says John Kerry poised
to make history. Oh, doing what? It just all it says there's no
reference. There's no link. Alright, let
me Let's get off Eleanor, so to speak, please. But you should
follow her just to know know yourself. No, no, no, no, no.
Okay, a couple of stories here. I just wanted to want to win by
200 followers. That's how bad it is.
One. And there was I had this on the show notes. I think maybe
for a week now. The workers who are demolishing the Sandy Hook
Elementary School at a cost of $50 million to build a new
school on the same site are required to sign confidentiality
agreements. Why? To protect the families? Of course. I know.
It's like it. Like this couldn't get any more annoying this whole
ordeal to they're not allowed to talk about what they find inside
when they're demolishing the place.
You mean like the microphones and cameras in the walls?
The confidential agreements are forbid public discussion of the
site photographs or disclosure of any information about the
building, where the so called Sandy Hook shooting took place.
Allegedly, because we haven't seen anything. No. I mean, it's
right there in the with the bin Laden pictures. And we haven't
seen that crazy medical examiner around either on what happened
in that guy. Remember the crazy guy,
he's got a movie deal? must
then this is kind of a red book, although we've I think we've
checked this off several times. But now the headline, by the
way. IBM's Watson wants to fix America's doctor shortage. As it
turns out, and this this, by the way is this is an old story
we've done enough, no, this is a little different. It's a little
different. This is because this kind of ties into the Affordable
Care Act. Now, as you know, and I know this many, many doctors
who are just being fired general pack practitioners, there's no
use for them. Everything's going to be done by your health care
provider. We've tracked this a long time here on the show. And
in fact, you will what you really get as registered nurses
and other administrative personnel who are going to put
bandages on you and subscribe, prescribe certain medication,
have one doc who just signs off on stuff, it's all going into
this, the general practitioners office is going into this kind
of automated mode, the only real money to be made is with
specialists. So anyone who's a general practitioner, you just
kind of out the hospitals are firing these guys and gals. This
story says that there should there will be as many as 45,000
primary care doctor shortage by 2020. But the idea is to have
IBM's Watson, do your diagnosis. This is a little new. And
they're and they're actually talking about a trial phase that
they've set up now. Where you go in you answer questions on the
computer, which of course you can do from the comfort of your
own home, and then Watson will just prescribe stuff for you. So
removing people altogether from the process. This is a little
new. So instead of
like the guys just sign off on the marijuana is a doctor you
know, you go to these conventions in California, the
marijuana pot thing or whatever and you go to a bunch of your
doctor
your diagnosis for for you. It's a freemium or what
Are you having what's what's the deal? So I'm having trouble
sleeping? For sure. Yeah, I got a sore throat up. Here you go,
Oh, I got these horrible headaches that won't go away. I
bet you Exactly, exactly. Okay, well, that's a nice depressing
piece of news.
No, well, that's. And then there was this big article, which to
me was new in Fast Company, which I think the the article,
or the interview was done a while ago, because this is about
23. And me. And I've been following this company. Yeah,
this is one of your pet peeves. Yeah, it is. This
is the it's the it's just math, everyone's DNA is going to save
your life. Now this, of course, is Sergey Brin, his wife, who I
believe is now ex wife, aren't they getting a divorce where
they're separate,
funded the younger woman. So this
story by Elizabeth Murphy, who took her adopted six year old
daughter, and made her do the DNA test.
And then she found that she was the spawn of Satan.
Well, it's, it's kind of crazy when you're reading through
this. So she talks about Sergey, and how Sergey has a 54% chance
of Parkinson's based upon her $99 test. And so you know, so
he's drinking coffee and exercising in between meetings.
Wow. Really. And but really the the idea, because now I
understand what this company is about, it's not about really
helping you. This is about scaring
that crap idea. Well, there's that 7580 90% chance maybe it
would be something you're trying to go for the 10. But it's a
5050. Toss up?
Well, I've been I've been reading up on a coin. I've been
reading a lot of medical
way. Just that to keep interrupting you, which I'm
doing now. If you look up, it's just math. It's like a meme.
It's just math. It's about Social Security. It's just math
is math. Yeah. It's just math, just math, just math.
It's just math. Well, the human genome is not just math, I hate
to tell you, because this thing, when did we decode this and 99,
the human genome,
early recent, we still know how it completely worked like 1516
years ago. And what this is a parlor trick, according to many
people who are familiar with with this guy know, if you want
to know some parlor tricks about yourself, that's great. But what
they're really doing as I read this article, it's like Twitter,
where they're taking your DNA information, they want to have a
lot of it, like 20 or 30 million samples of DNA. And then they're
going to start to say, Oh, now we can do big data. Right? This
is this is all throughout this whole article, big data. And
then we can figure out what really causes cancer.
And give us some money. Yeah, and this big
data thing I've got to tell you, the more I hear it, the more I
see. Yes, I'm
100%. with you on this one,
you're well, you're the one that kind of alerted it to me. And it
has gotten to the point now, where I find it a sport to see
what Amazon is recommending to me. It is really interesting.
They have no clue. They really do not know. I mean, yeah, they
they keep trying to get me to buy the diesel generator, which
I have, which I've looked at once and which I won't buy
because they're all made in China, even though they say
American power horse or whatever on it. That's the only thing
they know how to do. They can do that. They send you the email,
like oh, you looked at this, look at it again. And that
sometimes works.
My recommendation is if you can somehow get on somebody else's
computer and go to Amazon and hope that it auto loads with
their account, which it tends to do start looking at weird crap.
Plastic dildos. Look up all these crazy things that are just
nuts. And then from then on, every time they go anywhere,
they're gonna get these ads. No, no, it's everywhere. By the way,
there's
just worse because you get the dildo ads when you're on just
any old site that has like, Yeah,
I'm saying that's kind
of cool. Yeah, dildo ads.
Yeah, you'd be so you go to some regular, some Reddit site and a
dildo as will start popping up. While you're there is a great
gag to play on someone.
I guess the only thing I want to say is that I'm kind of on board
with this is just a parlor trick. And I actually I was
talking to the Voodoo doctor about this yesterday. You know,
the applied kinesiology or guy acupuncture guy. Yeah, I see him
every six weeks and I'm I'm I'm feeling good. I'm not sick in
bed.
But he says, You have caught what she has.
A lot of people come to him with their 23 and me printouts and he
says throw it out. And he said, Your DNA is not your destiny is
is the quote, he says, you know, all you're going to do is if if
someone tells you, you have this gene and you actually have this
gene, and you're thinking about this gene, you're going to
activate it. This is,
well, I don't want to get on board with that. It's possible
that if you're preoccupied I mean, this is the old trick with
motorcycle riding. When you're driving around on a cycle it
same thing with cars, but to a lesser extent, although they did
car when you were the race driver there and you're racing
around, they tell you to do similar things, is if you look
if you're on a you're coming down a dirt road and a bike, and
you're genuine worried about this huge boulder. That is right
there. If you look at the boulder,
you will crash into it. Yeah, you will crash into it. Exactly.
Look
to the side of the either side of the boulder and you
concentrate on that spot, you will zoom past the boulder.
It's, it's and it always happens. So when you're focused
on something in this case, you're preoccupied with your
genetic mishap. It may be just like the boulder you may
actually it may be true. Maybe the guys riding you could
possibly at least you're thinking about it too much.
Yeah. 55 So I will agree based on my folder, and
well then, you know, like the 54% and all that stuff. It's
just insane.
Yeah, we should put in the Red Book. Sergey will get
Parkinson's just put it right in. Yeah. Put it in. Good to go.
All right. I'm gonna say this other stuff. I got some common
core stuff. We'll save that for for Sunday. I'm going to have
quite a Oh, you also want to do the we'll do the podcast patent
thing we'll do that Sunday.
All right, the podcast, Pat. Well, yeah, it's been fun. Yeah,
cuz I wanted that's what I sent you a note about? Because I want
you to because you're the expert on podcasting and patents. I'm
pretty good on patents too.
I want to hear about this podcast patent situation.
Yeah. Well, I pretty much I can just say this that my name is
not mentioned anywhere in any of the documentation. Nor is Dave
Winer. This is this, this is the idiocy of not only the patent
system, but of people who feel they need to defend something,
which really does no one any good. You know, other than just
like, Yeah, we got to do another lawsuit and other people paid
for it. It's to me the whole thing is a waste of energy. But
I do want to get into it and explain it. So I'll be happy to
do that on Sunday.
A winner Yeah,
a winner for sure. All right. What did I have your head
and done? Yeah, I think
we're done too. I have like the I want maybe this ISS thing will
just be nice. Just International Space Station quick. 20 seconds
World
Pictures from the International Space Station, the astronauts
saw a strange and unexpected view out there windows. American
astronaut Mike Hopkins tweeted, saw something launching into
space today. Not sure what it was, but the cloud had left
behind was pretty amazing. And boy, is he right? Turns out it
was a plume from a Russian military missile tests. No.
Yeah,
space wars. But nothing to see here. Good me. All right. So
I've got a lot of patching to do here. Somebody interesting.
It's just gonna take you a few minutes.
Okay. All right, everybody. Make sure you go by that to ITM
box.com. Take a look at that. And John, yes. Thank you for
your courage.
Thank you for your courage, Adam.
More of this type of analysis for you. And I think some new
things will creep onto the radar now that the Big Show is over,
as predicted everybody back to work. Yeah, finally. Well, it
was time we knew what happened. And thank you all for the good
karma for Mr. Mickey's well being. That's appreciated.
Coming to you from the sickbay here at the Travis heights
hideouts in Austin Tay Haas in the morning. I'm Adam curry.
And from the very hot northern Silicon Valley, where if you
didn't take your garbage out by now, you have to wait for a
week. I'm John C. Dvorak.
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