Holy crap. You mean they even believe that stupid old book? Oh
my gosh. Oh, Adam curry, John C. Dvorak
hits Thursday, August
8 2013. Time for your get donation media assassination
episode 537. This is no agenda. Back in the Travis heights hide
out under elevated security conditions in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where the conditions are always
elevated. I'm John C. Dvorak. Kill a big donor of India. Oh,
let's start
late. Start my mistake, I'm sorry, I, I spent some time
setting up a new mail server, you know, one of those,
you know, this is like traveling. What do you mean, do
not eat shrimp or go to a long flight,
you have to understand the the server here at home, of course,
whenever you go on vacation whenever you're 1000s of miles
away. That of course is when things start to break. And what
happened is a drive started to fail. And so it was having
trouble retrieving stuff from the from the disk. And I'm like,
you know, whatever. So I forwarded some stuff to a
different account and worked around it. But the minute I got
home, like I'm going to take this opportunity to really set
up a whole new system. And I find I mean, you know me with my
Curry's law, right, I want to decentralize everything. And
everyone should be running their own mail server. I have found a
system I'm gonna give. I'm gonna make a tutorial with no, I'm
gonna make an ebook on Amazon giblet a, an Amazon ebook that
will tell you in five steps, you can run your own email server.
The only thing I didn't do right is somehow I didn't set the
quota properly for the amount of incoming email. Of course, you
sent me the clips, which kind of looks like what is it? How many
it must have been several. It must have
been 75 clips. Yeah, but
now how many Meg's Let me see
that much. 13 point for shorts.
13.4. Which it probably is set to 10 or something. So I
apologize for that.
So what's the Oh, a private rail car just went by? Who was in it
was rich guys in it? I'm guessing
Can you still get the private rail car? Can you rent them
you can rent a private rail cargo across the country.
Don't shoot the dude just hit hitch on to any any old train
that's going
on the back of an Amtrak train. Really? That's
cool. We should get one of those.
See, it's not as cheap as you think.
I'm not saying we'd have any money to pay for it. I'm sure we
have some patron out there who's more than willing to help
us out. Oh, yeah. He'd be on the train with
us. So as I arrived back in
the US usually sleep about six.
It's asleep Ricard, too. Yeah. I love that. Oh, that sounds
awesome. I arrived back in in Austin. John flip on the
television. You're not going to believe what I hear
Homeland Security Exercise will be underway in Austin over the
next several weeks. The Texas Department of Public Safety and
now several local and federal agencies will test response
plans to possible terroristic threats and other critical
incidents. Authorities say you should not be alarmed if you see
a big increase in law enforcement officials on the
streets of Austin.
You know, it's like really? Oh. Oh, Mr. Hora. Yeah, we didn't
know
Adam Curry was shot in the head. Hey,
listen, don't talk like that. We can't do with one can't do
without the other here on the show.
I know. That's why I'm advising you to take out an insurance
policy and make me
make you the beneficiary. Yes. Okay. Please. Please do it. Oh,
man. Anyway, it is good. Bad to be back home here in the Travis
heights hideout. Wow. A lot transpired just since last we
spoke John. Just getting home was again quite an interesting
ride. As I'm,
I'm waiting with bated breath. To hear your anecdotes.
Well, we learned that. How many times have I've been flying back
with with KLM and I keep saying this like no security. There's
no There's no big deal. They don't even have body scanners.
They make it you know, just easy.
Yeah. You you complain bitterly about it. Yes. If you want more
secure, I
was very disappointed. Exactly. So we were flying on Well, we
booked it through KLM but I guess they only have three
flights a week that are actually serviced by KLM. The others are
serviced by delta, which is kind of a bummer because, you know,
we got no we got no cachet with with Delta. But just you know,
two more schlubs trying to scam away into better service. But we
yeah, we got on. We got Oh, first we tried the the old gold
card trick at the at the priority check in the KLM prayer
priority check in area. Yeah, no go because it's funny guy so you
know just like okay, the insert your card. Oh, hi, Adam Curry
who you're traveling with? Could it be this person? Yes, that
would be that person you know. So I select Mickey's name. And
it's like, okay, we need your address. Really, you need my
address? And so I'm filling out my address. And we get to the
you know, all the way down to zip code and then it's like, are
you in Tennessee? Kind of system is this every stupid website
even knows that the zip code where it is? No, no, they don't
know that. And then you know, so I fill fill all that out and
then it goes on? Yeah, now the system did not understand how to
pick up my state zip code. Yeah, I had no idea how to do that.
It's totally stupid. But then you know fill out all that
information is Oh, no, sorry. We can't check you in you know, we
need extra documents. And of course, that is because Mickey
has to show her green card that can go through the system so we
got boned on getting the automatic you know, like
priority thing on the ticket. But of course the stewardess is
very not the the check in person. Which by the way, they
don't have name tags anymore at klm it's only that's it says
agent. I said hello, agent. Why can't I call you by your name
anymore? She said oh yeah, no, they've changed that because
people were stalking us on Facebook. So yeah, so that no
one has Don't you love Yeah, no one has their name anymore. It's
all it's all agent or a flight attendant or Catholic. Yeah,
that's what it was forced for the stocking and Facebook's
Okay, well, no, no, no, you go. So then we we go through the
customs we go to the gate and now this is delta. And dude,
dude, we get oh, yeah, everyone's getting questioned.
So not only is there a body scanner, but everyone's getting
questions. You're on maximum.
We're on red alert. No, no. I
said is this big? The reason I asked this is this the Red Alert
says no, no, we do this every single flight I said no, because
I've been flying all the time with KLM we don't have this had
no no KLM doesn't have that. If it's if it's a US carrier, then
we ask all the questions. So you're telling me that if you
fly KLM the the security is obviously less if you're going
to the same destination? She said yes. But if I'm flying
Delta then you
unflappable. Why doesn't the terrorists just take the KLM?
That's the question you should ask. That's what
I would be recommending. I have not I did not say this at the
time I actually wanted to get on the plane. And of course, then
we then we get to the to the naked body scanner and we say
Oh, we'd like to opt out. And I didn't think you could do this
in Europe. But they said oh yeah, no problem and so we opt
out and it's so it's such a friendly process. Because in
America you know, it's like opt out, opt opt out, opt out,
because if we couldn't do the the hands thing because it was
only one scanner and the two of us, we decided both to opt out
and just say okay, no problem just step over here and then you
get a quick little fresh Thanks. Okay, pick up your bags, no
waiting no bull crap no attitude. In fact that these the
it's actually his G four s which is that horrible security firm
from the UK, the ones who did the Olympics. Remember that
whole kerfuffle about how they screwed that up? Yeah, so it's
the Dutch arm of k four as a JPG for us. And they were really
nice and then to making jokes and not because it's Adam and
Mickey, they were just nice to everybody. And now of course,
the ultimate podcast or the improvised podcast device along
with my advice by the IP you don't want to call the IP D or
the IBD and it should maybe IP D improvise broadcast device might
be good too. So this thing has they have to take everything out
now remember, I've traveled with this thing through Europe. No
one said a word. Now now it has to be ripped apart. It's like
oh, okay, everything out everything back in the guys
pulling out my my Yaesu FT 817 transceiver. He's like what is
this? Oh, that's what I can broadcast with.
Oh, okay. Yes. From behind the
butter rabbit again. No, so then we arrive flight uneventful. We
arrive in in Atlanta, and of course, Nicky's flagged and and
it oh well you know you're gonna have to go to the nausea well,
to go to secondary said You mean we have to sit in the aquarium
he said. Oh yeah. Yeah, he got to sit in the aquarium. He said,
Well, what can we do about this? I mean, this, you know,
obviously she has a green card. It's clear that you know, there
was a problem in the past, but it was a minor issue and
everything's been resolved and, and the guy looks at me says,
Oh, this will never go away.
Never.
But you said it like that. This will never go away. Okay. You
said unless you becomes a US citizen. And even then I have my
doubts. And but now they're saying that if you become a
member of the Global Entry Program, which is you know,
another money grabbing scam? Yeah. Where they want your
retinal scan and all your you have to have an interview, I
pass all this crap. That's what they say. Possibly that you
might you might get through on that. But I can just see you
going up to getting your eyeball scan?
Probably true. I think she should just do it.
Yeah. She'll be the guinea pig. Because I just I don't I want no
part of that. And then of course, we had to go through
another security at Atlanta. And this is where things when it
could have potentially been disastrous. But we were both
really you recheck in your bags? Yeah. And we had to Yes. And
then we have to go through security. And Mickey, for some
reason, Mickey's iPad didn't didn't go through that she did
the camp can't raise the arms. I opted out. Because there was
only one, one slave scanning device. And and then, you know,
I didn't quite see how it started. But all of a sudden,
this TSA agent is just like, just like, almost yelling at
her. And of course, he said, Oh, you know, I thought you couldn't
touch. I'm not sure exactly what happened. We were both really
tired. So I you know, but then the guy was just like, I've come
here every single day, man. That's how it worked. You know?
And I'm just like, I'm just you know, and I'm starting to freak
out, John, I really am like, I, I want to get on this plane. You
we already have spent wasted all this time in the aquarium. And
I'm just like, I want to get on the plane, just want to go home.
I just don't want to stop and then some, like some good TSA
officer comes over. And then he talked to Mickey and she said,
No, it's okay. But I yeah, I was just like, wow. And you know,
what was it all about? You're not explaining it? Well, she
asked him a question. And oh, never do that. Oh, that was what
I was trying to tell. Don't ask a question.
And don't ask a question just do go through. They stop you they
stopped. I'm not
sure the problem. It was it was just because something was
confusing. And then, and meanwhile, the guys getting the
the ultimate podcast device and bag. And he's like, oh, whoa, we
have to look at this one. And he always gives us swabs the
outside doesn't even look in it. He's so inconsistent.
Everything's so stupid. And then of course on Delta, we are super
priority. We get upgraded to first class.
The world is crazy. There's a benefit to everything.
The world is crazy. I'm telling you in a nice
two hour flight and first class. Oh, yeah. The food was
fantastic. How was the caviar and champagne? I actually
said can I have a Can I have a crystal champagne? And she went
yeah. How about how about a honey Jack? Have you ever heard
of this product? No, it's a product it is. It's Jack
Daniels.
It's horrible as Jack Daniels and honey and honey.
Yeah. And it's they it's sold as a product. Honey Jack? What is
this all dried. It's not an outstanding product at all. And
then we get home and they're like, Okay, so you've been gone
for two and a half weeks the house is beautiful. You know our
boys took care of it for us. Everything's great. Have you
ever met in your like, where's the mail? And you know, in you
start looking around, you know, the plants are stupid. Where's
the mail? where's the where's two and a half weeks? And yeah,
where's the mail? You start looking around you go in the
office, you know, and then at a certain point you start you're
ripping stuff open. Where's the mail? Anyway, and it's 1030 and
you're texting people? Hey, thanks for taking care of the
house. Where's my mail? Now we didn't see any mail and we text
the the the landlady says oh no, they were they were doing work
on the front porch and the mailman just didn't you know,
they we thought that you know, we don't know he never came by.
Like, we shouldn't have like a huge pile of mail. You remember
our mail carrier is an Associate Executive producer of the show.
Yeah, so he saw that he probably
knew he'd listen to the show Yes. Yeah. knew you're on your
way there a trip he's just stopped deliver it's it was
delivered already on
Monday. That's exactly what he did because he rang the doorbell
said hey, you know, I knew you guys were out. So I figured I'd
just hold on to it. You know, the guys are ripping up the
porch and everything's I got your mailer. Bring it tomorrow.
Like wow, this is a great show what
little perks
we get our perks. Exactly, exactly. Anyway, so we're back
in happy to be in 106 degrees but at least we have air
conditioning and with that I say in the morning to you John C.
Dvorak.
Well in the morning to you Adam curry in the Morning Joe all the
ships at sea and boots on the ground and feet in the air and
subs in the water and all the games and nights out
there you're doing your thing again, just because that guy
said at once. Okay,
then I'm gonna keep doing it till he apologizes and
in the morning to all the human resources in the chat room. No
agenda stream.com no agenda chat.net Thank you very much for
joining us once again, thank you to our artists in particular
Martin JJ for providing the arts on episode 536 And you can find
all of our artists endeavors at no agenda art generator.com And
I would presume we miss Yeah, what did I miss?
Well, you missed a couple of things. Well first before we go
into the regular walks of the show, I want to thank
our producers before we do anything yeah
well you want to thank our producers that's usually
what we do when we get into the in the morning to you John Adam
that whole thing
oh, let me think I don't remember us ever doing that
as he slowly go through his email trying to open up his
spreadsheet carefully put together by Eric the show in the
back office as he wears his green visor at night putting
together all the notes with the various donations coming in
through PayPal and through our bank and
well I got to want that the thing is is Redux there's
nothing attached
I got I got the Redux within attachments there.
i Oh, here we go. Sorry about that, ladies and gentlemen. of
the jury. All right, we do have a few people to thank including
a bunch of instant knights, which really helps the show
immensely. Starting with the black night of Silicon Valley
who came in with 1073 33 Wow. In the morning, John and Adam
enclosed please find 5636 for the Sunday show plus 53 of $537
for the Thursday show plus 33 cents for good measure. Wow. I'm
sending so another one is actually from should have been
for the last show so he wants to this he's got this he's got it
should be 538 We'll give you a throw in the
no no this is five show 537 This is fine. I know
but he wants it. He says he Sundays which would be 538 So
he's thinking he's like He came up
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By the way, my Delta flight was actually dl 0033. Wow. Yeah, no,
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Oh, I'm sure I'm reading reading into the next thing. You know,
there's these lines on my spreadsheet when it turned blue
like this. They actually wipes out the blue line and man my
lines are no good. No, seriously. The lines on the
spreadsheet have this kind of light color.
I'm sure we can ask Eric to Eric to darken the line give us more
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Yeah it's it shall be so.
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grant fells mockers from Belgium 88888 How happy 25th wedding
anniversary Mimi and John and much marital bliss in the
decades ahead to on top of it being an easy day to remember
always, always important and one day after my own lb it failed
wedding ceremony anniversary. Can't read today, folks, this is
not going to be this is
not going to happen. We're just gonna bail. Were you. Okay,
well, it's just one it's an off day. It happens
wedding anniversary. Our day was seven August 1999 or 7999, which
is not bad. 789789 And I'm sorry, again. The figure eight
is lucky number in Chinese culture, of course, and 1.3
billion Chinese can't all be wrong. And what if you add 25
and ate together? Coincidence? Yeah, well, you could do this a
reverse engineering JV. Many happy returns have yourself it
is funny the 25th anniversary in the eighth. Okay.
So let me ask your question. So Mimi is are you up there and she
come down to see you what's
going on here right now? You talked to her earlier? Um, well,
I'm
pretending like like, I shouldn't have done Oh, I'm
sorry. Yeah, yeah, she's gonna be flying down later this
afternoon. On the lair? She's coming in. And when did she come
in all the sales in my ebook,
did she? I got it in the show notes. Actually today. Did she
come in? Like when did she come in last night? Or what are you
doing to celebrate the Baron Who here wants you to go out and
have a good time to have dinner
big fat fancy dinner to have I bought when we got married we I
bought two cases of 1988 Lynch Bosch which is the year so we
have a bottle every time we have you every year when bought a
year
can dibs on the last five.
There's only 24 and two cases. So we're actually I don't know
how we still have four left.
How does that work? out there's
actually some other ADA said I've substituted I've had some
just a few of me but the vintage is phase you know, it's just
start.
You know, that just proves that you really are a romantic? Yes.
And
here's another example of that for both the kids I bought them
big bottles of of a great Bordeaux wine for their
birthdays. And so they opened it on the 21st birthday. And when
you buy a wine 25 years ago, or 21 years ago, it was a lot
cheaper.
Yeah. And do they did the kids chug it?
No, just like hey, thanks that cool? They're not big drinkers.
What if you had 25 minutes you get a coincidence I think not
many happy returns and have yourself a nice dinner together
with some quite suitable wines and come visit the g d of
Belgium. The grand dukedom you are near we will do that. Thank
you so much. Sir Palace mockers Grand Duke of Belgium. It's
appreciated and I talked about you often by the way, when
whenever we're talking about the show, people
he's a very famous person. He's extremely famous Sir Patrick
Wilson. 333 33 in Canyon Lake California, sad tidings here
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Italian Shut up slave to cancer. She was actually getting on
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Shut up, slave. You've got karma. You feel bad about that?
Yeah. William Ashby. Three, three. Yeah, because he's
mentioned her before and it is a little bit. William Ashby 33333
Mobile, Mobile, Alabama.
Isn't that weird? The older you get. I started noticing this at
least 10 years ago because of course a lot of my friends are
in you know show business and they've you know, lived drug
alcohol filled lives. But isn't it weird? The older you get just
new people are dying around you. I mean, it's weird for me.
Why did people find that interesting? Yeah, they flop
people are freaked out about it. I'm not freaked out.
But it's just like, ah, you know, do you ever get to drop
or drop and then as you get really old, they're all dead.
They're all dead. So you know what happened? My mother she
went to 90 and all her friends were dead. That's one thing
that might might just really suck. You know, there's just no
one left and then what do you do? Well, you don't like you
have
to make new younger friends. We're in just totally interested
in being buddies with a 90 year old. Do
you imagine logging into Facebook and your timeline is
empty? No friends just shut it down, shut it.
It'd be a public figure and you can get a couple of phony
friends. That's a great idea.
That's the best.
Willie mash to be 3333 Read the article on autism as you can at
some point, and he's got a link which put in the show notes. I
was diagnosed by a very intelligent doctor with
psoriatic arthritis due to a leaky gut, my carpal tunnel like
syndromes nearly disappeared when taking an antifungal an
antibiotic. I was reading about this and came across some fairly
interesting ideas that autism is possibly linked to an intestinal
flora changes after antibiotics. Having two doctors, his parents,
I know they know almost nothing about how the gut bacteria
affects health. This is true. If anyone would be interested in
this Adam would be Adam wouldn't be Yeah, no anyway. Oh, I see. I
had to. I have to read this with a dramatic note. Yeah. If anyone
would be interested in this, Adam would be to possible
serious ailments which are poorly understood have linkages
to intestinal microbes. This should also make me a knight.
There's a little bit of a non sequitur but yeah, William, you
got it. He's not on the list.
Why is he not on the list?
I ask Eric, I
don't know what I'm doing a show here. What and I now have to go
on and
put him on the list. We can put him on the list. But if it's if
it's if it's not true, oh, no, these guys, they do their own
accounting. If he says he's a knight, and he's in we can, you
know, we can always pull his knighthood if it turns out to be
bogus, but I know
your knighthood has been pulled.
You have been pulled from the knight.
William Ashby. You know, I have confidence in Eric, do you know
he's got his systems back up and running. So what's the totals
up? You know, he knows what he's doing. So I mean, obviously,
I'll give William the benefit of the doubt.
And we have no associated executive producers. Wow. Which
is kind of weird. Interesting. It's interesting. All right. So
while we're here, while we're on this spot, plug your ebook,
because you've been plugging it
inside track book, Inside Track book.com. And you can buy a copy
of the accumulation of my thoughts over the past year and
a half on certain topics. It's a thin book, including ebooks. And
the second essay in the book.
So this is this is basically just no tech rewrote. Oh, rerun
stuff you've already written before.
Yeah, but I've consolidated and it's all edited. Yeah, no,
I understand. And, and where do we go to find this great book?
Inside Track? book.com. Or you can pick it up off of Amazon.
But then I get I lose $1 or something
like that. Oh, it's but it's on Amazon. Yeah, it
is on Amazon. By the way, it's it went on Amazon the same day,
Bezos bought the Washington Post, which I think it was an
omen. Yeah,
I don't know if that's good or not. Can I ask you a question
about this? So how's it doing? How is the book selling? Is it
still enough?
2324 copies. So
really, oh, Mimi's Glad You Came down.
So
you should be able to do at least like a couple 1000 of this
thing.
I said my target is actually 2000.
And how did you come up? I'm just interested. How did you
come up with the price point of $9.49? I liked it. Okay, with
the has no other just it's a good price just guiding Well,
here's the
i One of the things that I'm involved in here is in exercise
and publishing, because the ebook process to make an ebook
or to take anything and repurpose it or whatever you
want to do, and then turn it into an ebook, and then actually
get it out just so it goes on a Kindle properly. Is is not hard
at all. But it's also tricky. So it's like one of those things.
So I'm going to do an ebook on how to do these ebooks designed
by me while I'm talking about the Oh, Shah, you got to look at
code Sakis book ape. So I gotta tell you that this is a book
about how to write books. It's so horrible. I have nothing to
doesn't tell you anything you need to know.
No. Well, I definitely want to try this. Can I can I? Also if
so if I created in Amazon giblet, as I call it, what you
call an ebook, I call it a giblet. If I created one of
these about how to set up your own email server, could I give
it away and just have people donate money, like my value for
value thing, or doesn't have to cost something?
You're gonna have to price it or Amazon will carry it? Why do
they give it away but not put it on Amazon? But you
can still get it on your Kindle. You can choose to make something
that can't be split up.
Yeah, you could do create a small pamphlet length book book.
Yeah. And you could put it on, you know, you just have a link
to some page that has point everybody go there and you can
download it, right you go there and you download it comes in as
a mobi file, right and then when you hook up Kindle up to the
computer. You open the docs file in the Kindle. And then you take
that mobi file and just slide it around.
There's got to be an easier way it can't you email it to your
Kindle. Can you do that? That you can do
that? You can just slide it onto the Kindle somehow, you know, I
thought you could email your Kindle has a special Kindle
email address, you can email stun to it.
Yeah, well, I think all right. Well, there's a bunch of Kindles
that don't have connectivity, so that's not going to help. I'll
just post it on my blog. It's it's like a you know, it's like
a
thumb drive. I don't want it I already don't want it. I'll just
post it on the blog and everyone can is called pound
woman. My mom and I gave her a microwave. Get it out of this
thing out of here. It sparks is far does
she put her silver in it? Did you put her silverware in there
for I don't know what it was sparking. Okay, okay. Mom,
uncanny. Your mom sounds just like me, me. I don't know what's
going on.
I'm surrounded by women and thought that way. Yeah. All
right.
Well, anyway, definitely check out i'll put a link to the I
already have it in the link to John's ebook in the show notes
at 537 dot na show notes.com. And thank you very much to our
executive producers today, along with our 537 episode. Club
member that'll be Yeah, the black night of Silicon Valley.
Just fantastic to see everything come through. Thank you very
much. You've definitely helped us through our vacation period
and to support us for the Sunday show.org/and A and of course, we
always need the propagation of our formula. Our formula is this
we go out we hit people in the mouth
Hey, citizens pray I'm serious. I'm gonna put together a
tutorial it'll be how to set up your mail server for idiots. Oh,
no, I can't do that. I guess because that'll be a violation
of some kind of trademark, actually,
to be honest about it, whether you know, they trademark these
things nowadays. There's no such thing as a copyrighted book
title.
But that's why I said trademark I'm Yeah, I'm sure they can do
the Lanham Act would make sense for that. I mean, I've been
through that doesn't matter. I'm gonna put it together because I
was able to put together a server and email, server
everything in under an hour. And all you have to do is cut and
paste. That's the title, you got your title, use the under an
hour an hour, monocoque moniker and use that as your trademark
gimmick for all the little books you do.
I was actually thinking this week and email servers was No,
not a good idea. Damn. Them's weeks in email, servers, limbs,
whatever. No, but it's I'm quite proud of myself that there's
this new package, which open source called I read mail, you
should look at this just just for yucks, just to see what
they're doing. It's I love the model, because you got I read
mail, it's a it's a collection of a whole bunch of packages
that it really installs with just a couple of commands,
command line functions. It has a web client, which is pretty
good. The only thing obviously I screwed up today is you know,
somewhere there's a quota thing. But the model these guys have is
they they're selling a super admin package. That's like, I
don't know, 300 bucks a year if you want to license it to really
be able to do multiple domains and, you know, the really deep
just really, it's a very good admin package what you can do
without but you know, they're basically selling that on top of
it. I think it's a great model. And I'm I'm so and also I
learned about Greylisting Have you heard about this?
I've heard of Greylisting but I don't know what you're going to
talk about
well so you have blacklist whitelist on email servers, I
didn't know about the gray listing what it is, is when so
if you send me an email and my mail server has never seen your
host with your name before it'll send back a message and say oh,
we've got a policy issue on this please try again. And your email
server automatically knows to try it again in five minutes. It
might be 10 minutes was typically about five minutes and
if you come back with the same you know the same identifier,
then you're through and then you're whitelisted it because a
lot of the spam guys you know they they don't do fully what
does it
verify they just blow it they just blow
this bullshit out and you know, and if they don't care, they
come up once not going to come again like rejected, they move
on. And it really makes a difference in the amount of spam
it's because I'm just watching the log. It's It's interesting
process but you know You will have a delay some time and when
someone someone sends you
yes when you get that message delayed message that's exactly
what it is. I get that when you send one of those back to me
I'll get a message delayed Miss actly exactly but you do not
take any action do not worry about it.
It you shouldn't be receiving that that I mean that should be
transparent. But sometimes it gets it slips through. But it's
it's an interesting, maybe it's really old. But it seemed to me
like something that's relatively it at least it was new to me.
I'm like, Oh, that's interesting. It seems to be
working.
You should explain that in the little book.
Little by little giblet which will be free to all and I can't
believe that I spent you probably spent the same amount
of time. I put five clips together of Obama and Leno.
I got a bunch.
We're gonna sit be saying the same things, obviously. So why
don't you would you want to start off with these because I
found this to be a very obvious, you know, appearance by the
President to, you know, to talk to the human resources.
Oh, please. Just tell was the most rigged bullcrap thing I
have ever seen. That's what I'm saying. It was I have. I have a
we'll start with this. They actually were you know, chatting
for a minute. And then Lando had his he had two blue sheets of
paper on the thing. And he was literally looking down at these
sheets and reading the questions.
I know. Some of them were so incredibly bad and it seemed to
me like it was too much to highlight just the highlight top
level. It was a to tell the American people nothing is wrong
with what we're doing to your email, telephone text messages.
The camera under your bed. Nothing's wrong with that and
fuck Russia.
Well, here's the bike actually have a couple of gaffes that I
don't know whether you call it I got caught. I caught him here
and you're gonna go oh, I caught him. Ah, did I miss that? Okay,
but, but let's start with here's where Leno he's yakking. They're
yakking and joking about their wives. And then, Lando, this is
the this is the clip that Len here's where Leno starts the
script. And you can hear me break right into a script.
Okay. Yeah. Three years, I know exactly what you're saying. Hey,
I gotta ask you about this. Everyone is concerned about
these embassy closings? How significant is this threat?
Well, it's significant enough that we're taking every
precaution
I love how when someone tries to conversation in John, you and I
know that because we've been doing this for decades, when
someone conversationally tries to roll into the script. There's
always that like, you know, let me there's always a little
stutter. You know, it's like, let me let me know, I was just
wondering about this. The it's so obvious to anyone who's done
this.
So So, and I was just going to get some of these. I'm going to
run through the short. I took really snippets here. There's
one I just want to play it for the for the record, which is the
Obama says China is slowing down. We I don't know if this is
official, but he says it. Okay, just one just for the record.
It's only for when you've got problems
in Europe, or China slowing down.
Okay, why do we need that for the record?
I just sorry, I needed that for DHL unplugged.
You accidentally dropped it into today's show.
I just wanted to get it out there. Because there's no real
did the Chinese say they're not saying that there. This is a
real controversy whether it's China's slowing down. And by the
way, Obama goes on and says, you know, this is going to be a huge
problem for us. Yeah. Because we're going to end up having to
build stuff in the United States. That was very strange.
All right, why, stop? Why is this a huge problem? Don't we
want to build the United States? Yes. But he says
it's a problem is that whole clip goes? Well, if there's, you
know, this way, the G 20. So important, because there's going
to be trouble in Europe and China's slowing down that
affects our economy. What it affects is that, you know, we
don't buy as much Chinese garbage. All right. Now, here is
the day again, these are short, this is a Leno asked me what I
thought was the most disgusting of all the leading questions,
and this is the disgusting clip. It's safe to say that we learned
about these threats to the NSA intelligence program. Is that a
fair assessment?
Well, you know, this intelligence gathering that we
do is a critical component of counterterrorism.
Yeah. I think there was more to that. And let me just come in
here with my clip. I think I had something extra that you might
have missed the NSA leaker Edward Snowden, some call them a
whistleblower. What do you call him? I guess you got this clip?
Yeah, go on play it.
We don't know yet. Exactly what he did, other than what he said,
on the internet, and
I'm sorry, you're wrong, Mr. President. He didn't say
anything on the internet. Mr. Snowden gave everything to the
guardian in The Washington Post through the filmography Laurie
portress. The Why are you saying he put it on the internet?
I was baffled by that myself. Okay. I'm sorry, I hear no,
that's good. I hear is the one oh, wait, no, I
got it. Here's the one that's important. I think you missed
this one about MSS some
skepticism. And I think there's, we should have a healthy
skepticism about what government's doing. I had the
programs reviewed, we put in some additional safeguards to
make sure pay attention, because it's so you said something
really interesting here that
there's federal court oversight, as well as congressional
oversight, that there is no spying on Americans. We don't
have a domestic spying program. What we do have are some
mechanisms where we can track a phone number or email address
that we know is connected to some sort of terrorist threat.
And that information is useful. But you know what I've said
before it comes the performative I want to make sure I repeat,
and that is, we should be skeptical about the potential
encroachments on privacy. None of the revelations show that
government has actually abused these powers. But there
none of the revelations show the government has abused these,
which doesn't mean it's not actually happening. He's he's
actually covering just saying, well, nothing that came out
shows that we're doing anything wrong. You need to put George
Bush's head on the guy when he talks like that.
That's, I give you that. That's, that's a good one. That's a good
point. Thank you. No, I now if we're gonna get into that, I'm
gonna have to give you a topper.
Oh, no. Taught me Johnny Boy.
This is a very short clip where I just think this This to me was
like a clip of the de quality clip. This is Obama talking
about the odds of getting killed by terrorists.
We're gonna live our lives and the odds of people dying in a
terrorist attack. Obviously, there's still a lot lower than a
car accident, unfortunately,
unless you're Michael. Wait, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Unfortunately, we
live our lives and the odds of people dying in a terrorist
attack. Obviously, you're still a lot lower than in a car
accident, unfortunately.
Wow. You've already set it up and then crap, and I'll give it
to you then. Damn. Well, there's more. There's more. But I didn't
hear the unfortunately the first timer. How does someone I don't
know, man. It's like, Hey,
by the way, this is part I think of an overall theme that I'm
convinced is going on. They are not getting the track this this
NSA thing is just the part of the because the NSA has not come
up with any excuse for all these, these taps and the they
haven't arrested anybody. There's nothing really been done
as a fiasco. And so people are getting sick of this terrorism
thing. And that's why Obama said, Oh, your chances of
getting killed are less than getting killed in the car wreck,
unfortunately, because he would like to see more terrorists more
terror. Well, I got something I got this one. I don't know if
you picked up on this one I'm trying
to do as President is not overreact. But make sure that as
much as possible, the American people understand that there are
genuine risks out there. What's great about what we've seen with
America over the last several years is how resilient we are.
So after the Boston bombing, for example, the next day, folks are
out there, they're going to ballgames
What are you talking about? The whole city of Boston shut down.
People were supposed to cower in their houses crouch and cower.
What are you talking about?
Making sure that we're not reacting in a way that somehow
shuts us down.
You weren't literally shut down. He should literally shut down
the city. And that's
the right reaction. Terrorists
I can't of course we know that this is a script but I mean,
what kind of credibility does anyone have when he's saying
these things? Literally that we there was like a huge manhunt.
They shut down the entire city, stay in your homes, be afraid
Don't wait until we come and save you with our guns in this
battle
now, knowing this we again we have a number of of clips or
people got to put up with but these are really good because
this is the opportunity where Obama actually gets out from
behind the podium tries to talk even though this is very
rehearsed. And he stutters a lot but there's a moment that I this
is to me one of the really great clips I have is a short clip
there's a moment work Leno, he's got his talking points, and the
end he tries to put together some sort of a question and he
has all these things he's got a jam in there he's got the meme
about oh, Snowden should have stayed in the country and and
you know, taken his punishment like a man which is one of the
memes that he threw into this. Just take it like a man Yeah,
and all that sort of thing. But he gets It's a bunch of
anybody's got a blast known you know the stripper girlfriend and
all this bullcrap so Leno This is the question Linda loses
talking points. This is where Leno he's got all these talking
points. So he just starts bloodbath babbling he just
throws the words in it with no connection. It's hilarious this
guy is being paid money by now in flight firm live in Hawaii,
you got the stripper girlfriend, all of a sudden you're all upset
with what the government is doing. Right? And you go to
another country. I mean, in my era, Daniel Ellsberg stood in
town square and said I've got this got arrested New York
Times. I mean, the President New York Times in foreign what is
Ellsberg gonna do? Well?
Well, this is the what Lenin was supposed to be saying. He should
have turned it around because that has been the talking point.
I've heard certainly on MSNBC, etc. And like morning, Joe is
like Ellsberg Well, you know, Ellsberg he came out but he
stood his ground like a man he took it like a man and you know,
the Snowden is is Percy. They've been
saying this over and over. Yeah. And then meanwhile, we also we
all you have to people have to look into his Binney. He's the
NSA guy who was a whistleblower. The FBI arrested him and his
kids and at gunpoint while he was taking a shower in sentence
in seconds and made his life miserable. And meanwhile, we
listened this bullcrap from Obama with this little clip
here. This is you can play as much of this as you want the
Obama pro whistleblower. funny to me is about this. The NSA
leaker Edward Snowden, some call them a whistleblower, what do
you call him?
Well, we don't know yet exactly what he did, other than what he
said, on the internet. And it's important to me not to prejudge
something that hopefully
like I did, like I did with Bradley Manning, where I said he
was on Mark. Yeah, and that's not prejudge anything
going to go to trial. And you know, he will have a lawyer and
due process and and we can make those decisions. I can tell you
that. There are ways if you think that the government is
abusing a program of coming forward, in fact, I through
executive order, signed whistleblower protection for
intelligence officers. Were involved in the intelligence
industry so
let me get right on that so you don't have to break the
law. You don't have to so
he just said here he broke the law so you don't have to break
the law.
Right he did. The guys didn't hasn't been trying to do the
whole thing. No. Debray he was not gonna make judgments but he
phony
phony, phony, phony, phony. It's disturbing. You know, it really
is and the lack of any kind of, of counter work, you know,
discussion, it's just where is everybody on this? This isn't
This is
sad when Lenovo is really sickening in this in the worst
case that I think one of the worst things he does is gay
diatribe. Now you talked and discuss the the real situation
but
Russia hold hold on, because I haven't I have hear from one of
our one of our producers I asked for, and I had already seen
this, but I asked specifically for a translation. And I have it
here the Russian gay law, translated by our producer, Mr.
Prayer. One, just one paragraph. Here it is the so the offense.
And I, I believe this to be a true translation propaganda of
non traditional sexual relations among minors, expressed in the
dissemination of information aimed at developing in minors of
non traditional sexual directives, attractiveness of
non sex, traditional sexual relations, a distorted picture
of the social equivalents of traditional and non traditional
sexual relations or the imposition of information on non
traditional sexual relationships causing interest in such
relationships if these actions did not have a criminal offense.
And the fines are $100 Fine. And a three year ban, I think, on
entry to Russia, for individuals and for companies that can be up
to $30,000 Translated from their rubles or whatever it is, but
the bottom line is it is not, although sad, it is not a ban on
being gay or anything of the like. And it is not just Putin,
it is Russia. And if you and I have some of the statistics 88%
According to some, some polling companies in Russia have the
Russian population on board with this. It's so wild. Well, it
seems foreign to us. It is a far cry from you go to jail if
you're gay, which is pretty much at Think with Lenovo.
Well, what Lenovo says on this show is worse than that. Now, we
should also mention we had a guy in Sweden was talking about this
there, but this is part of a concerted anti Putin thing. And
it's all about anti Putin. In fact, the President did you have
the Cold War thing where he's talking about all Putin did back
in a cold war mentality? He's actually right. It's funny, I
didn't put that one either.
It was funny, but that cold war mentality comment is funny
because they had an ambassador I think it was like the ambassador
to Russia. In fact, during I think Reagan or or Clinton, who
said that, if anybody's acting with a cold war mentality, it's
us. And I actually believe that's true.
Well, before now here, listen to this I'm gonna lead into so
we're gonna do the is it the? Which one is it? Which one is
the?
Well, I got to set it up as the gay round up? Okay.
I was just gonna give you a little 12 Second of Aaron burn
it. Okay, hit it. Russia is Russia, Nazi Germany. Tonight,
there are more comparisons being made about Russia's crackdown on
gays and lesbians and the Nazis persecution of Jewish citizens,
homosexuals and others that Hitler wanted to eliminate. This
is where it's gone. We've got now got Erin Burnett, B. And she
actually throws to the Leno clip right after this, saying that
Russia or the new Nazis, because they want to round up the gays
and gasm.
Well, that I find this disturbing, because these are
two obvious White House talking points again, anti Putin. And so
what we have in the next clip, is Leno making a statement that
is totally false, and is a complete lie. And instead and
Obama instead of saying, Well, you got that a little bit wrong
and correct the president? Yeah. Like a presidential guy should
do. He should say, Well, you got that wrong. It's not quite that
bad. But what he does instead, but he doesn't agree, but he
doesn't disagree with it at all. And he goes off and and kind of
changes the subject. So Leno says, Oh, they're gonna kill all
the gays and, and the President Obama says, Well, you know, I'm
against people that don't like gays. I mean, he doesn't it just
disconnects from. That's it stand as though it's true. Yep.
Yep. This is a horrible, horrible, horrible person. In
this situation. This is the worst clip in terms of I mean,
this would be a good clip of the day, but it's so disgusting.
That I hate to give it any sort of an award. But listen to this
was something that shocked me about Russia. And I'm surprised
this is not a huge story. Suddenly, homosexuality is
against the law.
lie that is not the fact it is not. I mean, this is let's round
up the Jews. Let's find the gays let's round up the blood. I
mean, it's let's round up the null. It's one of those one of
the dumb comedians starts with that
you round up people who you don't want. I mean, I'm Why is
not more the world outraged at this.
Well, I've been very clear that when it comes to universal
rights, what,
here's what I think happened. I think that Leno was off script
bringing this up, or maybe they never scripted it. It was like,
I'll bring up the the Russian gay thing. Okay. Yeah, great.
And then I'll talk about how much I love gays and lesbians
and transgenders. And by the way, he forgets bisexuals in
this and I'm very perturbed by that. The President forgets. So
I think Leno just went off and you can hear the president
struggling, which is why I think he just like okay, I'm gonna
leave that one over there. That's up to you.
Well, he did a great job of hanging in there after Lana went
off the rails
comes to people's basic freedoms, that whether you are
discriminating on the basis of race, religion, gender, or
sexual orientation, you're violating the basic morality
that I think should transcend every country.
I gotta say something about this, because people
misunderstand. And I think a lot of people listening to the show
will say, Well, yeah, but you know, it is about about hating
the gays. I mean, that's almost is no you can only extrapolate
things so far as to what they are. There's a far cry from the
legislation that they have about propagandizing in front of
miners. Not in coal miners, but children who are underage to you
know, you're not allowed to be gay this and you're gonna round
you up and I have this conversation with Mickey because
she says, Well, you know, but that's just where it starts and
then you know, before you know it, you know, you if I want to
have a gay bar and I'm advertising they're going to
shut me down and I'm like, maybe you can take it that far, but
the what people are missing. This is about making Russia look
bad. And we have I mean, look, we we haven't Nothing but three
and a half million black people in jail here in America. What
are you talking about? Hello. I mean, this is basically, you
know. Hello kettle, this is the pot calling, except Except this
is now just being propagated through NBC channels. And then
CNN as you know, Russia hates gays. They're horrible,
horrible, horrible people that and Putin, Putin, who of course,
as we discussed in the previous show, the funny thing is the
guy's obviously gay. That's the That's the irony of it.
So there's this, there's this clip where we're where this is
just a as if Leno knows anything, he throws this KGB
Zinger around there. Yeah, yeah. And Putin seems to me like what
it was old school KGB guys. Well, he ended up the KGB. Yeah.
Well, that's what I mean.
I'm sorry. Now, he did not head up the KGB. In fact, he only
rose to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel. He did not run the KGB.
You can find this on Wikipedia and the President that Oh, yeah.
Boy, he ran the KGB.
And what you maybe should have mentioned George HW Bush did
Roxy did
run the CIA? Yeah, it's not true. He, he literally resigned
from active state security services with the rank of
Lieutenant Colonel on August 20 1991. That is a far cry from
a running the KGB. Let's listen to that again. Because that was
another one was exchanged. And it's insulting to me.
And it was also scripted. Seems to me like what it was old
school KGB guys. Well, he ended up the KGB.
Yeah. Well, that's what I mean. That's what I mean. He has that
mentality. I mean, look at this picture here. Are you to
and then we're gonna show some pictures. Yeah. Oh, he looked.
Oh, yeah. That's that's his cold war mentality. Did you catch the
Olympic Games thing?
Ah, I got it. I got the Olympic Games one now. No, yeah. What
did you catch in it?
Okay, can I play the clip and then it can I say what I caught.
Okay. I think
Putin and Russia have a big stake in making sure the
Olympics work. And I think they understand that. For most of the
countries that participate in the Olympics, we wouldn't
tolerate gays and lesbians being treated differently. Their
athletes, they're there to compete. And if Russia wants to
uphold the Olympic spirit, then every judgment should be made on
the track or in the swimming pool or on the balance beam. And
people's sexual orientation shouldn't have anything to do
it.
Yeah. Unfortunately, we don't swim or do track or bounce theme
during the Winter Olympics. Yeah, I got that the Winter
Olympics. And it was like, Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. The yard is
snapping. Winter. ice dancing. You know if he had said that, it
would be skating. Ski jumping. That means you haven't you're
just you're just a puppet. That to me was the clincher. It's
just like, wow, and by the way, aren't the Winter Olympics on
NBC?
Yeah, they have all the land let's say
Winter Olympics. NPC I guarantee it. Really? Wow. And then Leno
should have been well of course you can't correct the President
I guess. Yeah. 2014 Winter Olympics NBC so they plug it
with so they're not going to push that one? No, but and that
agenda is not going there was a crappy
plug because it was wrong. On the balance being during the
Sochi Winter Olympics ladies and gentlemen
you know there's a there's so I heard a gaffe in this clip which
I got two gaps that I want to I want to discuss we're almost
done by the way for people out there are sick of this No, I
don't
think anyone's sick of it. Because if you I think a lot of
people don't see this. You'd be amazed or they only see some
highlights where you know, but now we're actually pulling the
whole thing apart. This was so full of incorrect just factually
incorrect lies even that it was astounding to me. It was this we
are Russia see?
Okay, so there's a funny gaff in here that I thought was weird.
This is the gays part two with weird gaff and see if you can
spot it's just very minor minor.
Hold on a second. I don't see gay. I see odd guy. Oh, yeah,
sorry. Here we go. All right.
And I have no patience for countries that try to treat gays
or lesbians or transgendered persons and in ways that
intimidate them or harmful to them now. What's happening in
Russia is not unique. When I traveled to Africa. There were
some countries that are We're doing a lot of good things for
the people who we're working with and helping on development
issues, but in some cases have persecuted gays and lesbians and
it makes
I didn't get I must say I
did this things in just a Russia. He was going to say
something else. He says thing. In Java, it was either gonna say
Germany or Japan. Oh, hold on, is on his mind. So Germany and
Japan are on his mind and hold on a second home
development issues but in some cases of persecuted where it was
that
it was right dead in the middle.
intimidate them or harmful till now. What's happening in
Russia? Sounds like Japan. Yes. When I was thinking I always
said sounds like he's going into Japan. Good catch, by the way.
Good catch. Yeah, I didn't hear that. So Japan write it down.
Put it in the book, man. something's gonna happen. Gaze
his gaze on his mind, gays in Japan. Could be Yeah, something
gay in Japan you want and
here's an here's another one I caught which is the odd gaff
about getting rich either. You may have heard this one. I'm not
absolutely sure what it even means why he did this, but he
corrects himself. And this is a very obvious gap. But but it's,
it's just part of a just getting by meme in here and some other
stuff. But just discuss this after the hearing where
IT folks work hard. They can find a good job that pays a
decent wage that their kids to college, they got health care,
they can count on they can retire even if they don't get
rich,
or even even if they don't get rich and rich. Roll it back. I'm
sorry, I'm sorry.
Where it folks work hard. They can find a good job that pays a
decent wage. They can send their kids to college, they got health
care, they can count on they can retire even if they don't get
rich, or even if they're not rich. And that we're creating
these letters of opportunities for people to get into the US
stupid
Mexican, you came to America, you didn't even get rich. How
dumb are you? It's the easiest thing in the world.
So I found that to be a very peculiar switchback because he
says the big and retiree if they don't get rich is fine. Isn't it
by its standalone? Yeah, but so I've said, Well, you know, you
can retire here, even if you don't get rich. And then I go
on, I wouldn't go even you don't? Even if you aren't rich.
Why? Why was making the correction? Hmm. It's probably
some training some trigger that, that he's got you know about how
to talk and things to say and how it is particularly to talk
about wealth and money and riches. Maybe? It's, I mean, it
just sounded like some training kicked in there some Pavlovian
thing.
Yeah. Could be. I just found that one to be the most
peculiar. And last, we have the the extradition disappointment,
which was just a pure piece of propaganda, again, with a lead
in, you know, written question, acted as though it wasn't. Were
you surprised that Russia granted Snowden? Asylum,
I was disappointed. Because even though we don't have an
extradition treaty with them, traditionally, we have tried to
respect if there's a law breaker, or an alleged law
breaker in their country, we evaluate it, and we try to work
with them. They didn't do that with us. And in some ways, it's
reflective of some underlying challenges that we've had with
the with Russia lately.
Yeah. And, you know, like, I don't know, Syria, stuff like
that, you know, just minor, minor, little minor little
things we got going on with Russia lately. This was really a
bizarre performance, I thought, gave him the whole show, by the
way, and this will go down in the history books, and we may
not be around for this one. But this will be written up as an
example of where America was off its rocker with propaganda, no,
actually, I'll add something to this, you know, the President is
working on his bargain, you know, the, the bargain for the
American people, which I guess part of the American Dream is
owning your own home. This is now this is now back on the
agenda. And the President's idea here is again, some kind of
reform, you know, blah, blah, blah, make it easier to pay for
your home to buy a home. Yeah, not everyone's gonna but
whatever it is. But remind me, John, what is the definition of
fascism again?
Well, depends on who which one of our listeners is writing as a
note about it. But generally speaking, is when the, when the
governments and the corporations work together hand in hand to
benefit the large stakeholder versus as opposed to the public
itself.
So, if you are the president and you're trying to get some kind
of bargain for people, whatever it is, and you know, and you can
do this through legislation, but if you were to actually work
with I don't know, like a big real estate agency, would that
be weird? Would that be wrong if you like work with your fascist
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Mr. President, great to see you. Thank you. Thank you so much.
Is this Is it just me? Or is this wrong?
It seems a bit wrong.
I mean, it's like it's like it's good for you too. But there's a
whole infomercial with Zillow presents with their their
commercial real estate agency.
Yes, they've certainly endorsed by the President, which I
thought was illegal.
And then they've got these questions and their shield
questions they'd like the people are doing selfies on their
iPhone to record the video. It's not even a Skype, it's just
recorded. It's all talking points that can't even get
through. You got to hear just one.
Yeah, Mr. President. Our first question comes from Andrew
Houston, in Gainesville, Florida. Let's watch his video.
Let's watch his video, which I'm sure is not produced at all to
look authentic.
Good morning, Mr. President. My name is Andrew Houston in
Gainesville, Florida. And I was wondering how you feel rising
interest rates over the last three months are going to affect
housing recovery going forward? I was actually fortunate enough
to refinance at historically low rates earlier this year.
These were historically low rates. Oh, wait,
it was happening this way always talk. I was happy to refinance
at historically low rates for a local lender. Not what you know.
Hello, oh, memo to White House, we're on to you. We would
figured it out. correctly, low rates. You gotta put the video
in the shownotes. You just look at that thing. It's bizarre or
ugly. It's just bizarre. Every one of those questions is, is
bizarre. The whole thing is bizarre. And to what end to what
point people are running out. There's no one giving, you know,
historically low rate, I go there, they laugh me out of the
shop.
Yeah, we have all kinds of equity and I can't get a loan.
I have no debt.
In fact, Eric, the Sheila has a story where he was like, one of
the banks after we finally got a clue that there's a good bank up
in the Pacific Northwest in Washington that matches the
mechanics bank for being a really good bank. But this bank
actually loans money mechanics bank never does is called
Umpqua. And so I'm caught bank is where we were trying to
switch everything up there to an end. I got this is an
unsolicited endorsement from some guy in line at the
mechanics bank. Oh, you're going in there. And the guy says is a
great bank. So this is a great bank. I said, I got I know a guy
in Texas that uses this bank and so good. He says, yep, but it's
not as good as I'm cool. It goes on with a long story. He says
you think this bank is good? Um, quad? There's your bank? Um,
quad. So
how do you spell it? How do you spell um, qua?
EUMP Qu a I believe? qua qua okay. And anyway, so um,
it actually says Welcome to Umpqua. The World's Greatest
bank.
Me Me thought that was hilarious.
That's great. That's a market for you. We want our customers
to be happy really, really happy. It's kind of cool. I'm
down with that.
Yeah, so we're gonna look into I'm cool. But Eric got to run
around and he's got they got equity. They got property him
and his dad
don't they own like half of Finland.
They got a lot of money and they can't get and they got to run
around from one of these other little local dipshit banks,
which are up there and they they even put a lien on the property
without even giving him any money and then said they
couldn't give him any money. They put a lien on the property
as though they own it. How can
sleep? How can you do that? Is banks This
is like the Bank of America that tried to foreclose on some guy's
property. They didn't even they never gave him a loan. The guy
had the property paid off. And I know this you're knocking on I
thought, let's take this guy's property. I thought
this happened to Eric the show. I thought you were talking about
that. No, I know Bank of America eight holes. That's why we know
anyway, where they got crashed in the Hudson.
Well, they're definitely not a good operation, to put course
talking about that sort of thing, though, and change the
subject completely. So this story of what I heard on
Democracy Now about some, I guess, some big protests over
here in Richmond at the refinery. I'm I can see the
refinery from my house. And I didn't know anything about this.
But I got a big run up because of you remember, three
fifty.org, or whatever it is,
yeah, the number of particles per million of carbon.
BILL MCKIBBEN is the guy who runs it. And I think that
they've turned themselves into one of those, you know, the,
the, the Rainbow Coalition, Jesse Jackson's operation makes
most of its money through a form of intimidation. They go to a
company and they say, You guys are not getting enough black not
hiring of blacks. You're not doing that. You're not doing
that. Yeah, we're gonna make some trouble until you make some
trouble. Oh, you're gonna give us a big donation? Oh, yeah.
Okay, well, we can work some out now. Yeah, exactly.
So if I believe this might be going on here. Because if you
listen to this clip on Standard Oil, and listen to Mckibben go
on and on, and by the way, I'm going to as someone who was in
the business, oil refining, industry, as a chemist, and then
I was in the air pollution district, and my assignments
were oil refineries. This Bay Area's got a bunch of oil
refiners. And I can assure you that the Standard Oil Refinery
here in Richmond is one of the cleanest of the entire group. To
be honest about it, so But here's what you end up with.
Anyway. 210
people were arrested at the Chevron refinery in Richmond,
California and the latest mass mobilization against fossil fuel
dependence and climate change. 1000s of people marched to the
refinery to condemn safety issues at the plant and to call
for renewable alternatives to fossil fuels. The protests came
ahead of Tuesday's one year anniversary of a massive fire at
the Chevron refinery, which sent toxic smoke billowing into the
air hospitalizing roughly 15,000 people with respiratory issues.
The city of Richmond has filed a lawsuit you can Chevron over the
fire claiming it followed a series of similar incidents.
This weekend's protests was part of a wave of summer heat actions
led by the environmental group three fifty.org, the group's
founder Bill McKibben was among those who were arrested.
The reason that we're here is because Chevron is a really bad
actor, okay. Well, they're a bad actor, as the people in Canada
fighting their fracking asked the people in Ecuador have had
to live with their waste. When they get in here to refine it.
They're a bad actor, they send 15,000 of their neighbors to the
hospital. And they are bad, bad actors on this planet. They have
9 billion barrels of oil in their reserves. Okay. Burn most
of those, then we cannot deal with climate change
sounds. I mean, people if you haven't read it, read Michael
Crighton state of fear. This guy could have been what he could
have just walked out of that book. And you know what I mean?
Yeah, sounds just like it.
It's all rehearsed. And it's all part of the process. I can
assure you did a Standard Oil had contributed to three
fifty.org That would have been no problem. Yeah, no problem.
So. So is that, by the way, is part of the program and that is
in state of fear, which again, is just a fabulous book to read,
even if you if you think you know that, like they're saying
today that there will be no ice on the Arctic in 19 2050. Which
I'm still might make it you might be able to, to witness the
ice free poll, even if you if you buy him that you should read
this book, because this is exactly what it describes where
these were the big oil companies are all contributors to these to
these outfits that basically protest against them, they take
the money. They take the money said okay, we'll ease off on
you. We'll go do it. We'll go to a BP tomorrow.
Now they got Unocal to go after some other plant whatever, a
bunch of refiners around here. Exactly. So while we're on the
good climate change bandwagon, I didn't want to clip this whole
thing. But I just thought that this was like getting really
getting out there and see if you can kind of imagine where this
actually what what kind of conclusions you get from the
rising temperatures and war theory clip.
So it turns out that when we look at temperature, it actually
looks as though the relationship is pretty continuous. So we're
pretty much wherever you are in the modern world, we tend to
observe that even increasing the temperature by a little bit
leads to higher levels of conflict. But if we look at
rainfall data, there does tend to be these sort of threshold
effects where very, extremely high levels of rainfall, or
extremely low levels of rainfall tend to be damaging. And that's
consistent with the economic ideas you've been pointing out,
particularly because extreme rainfall is very bad for
agriculture.
It's interesting that you tried to do this retrospectively, is
there reliable enough data both on human activity and on the
natural world to look back into the past and say, Aha, here's a
time where rising temperatures can be correlated with increased
human violence. There's no real conflict.
So in other words, what does that means? World War Three is
just around the corner.
Yeah, cause of global warming. That's right, because we're all
the way if it wasn't for global warming, no Hitler
that ends the conversation, doesn't it? Wow, God, I like
that. Yeah, well, I saw this too. I saw the the people fight
more when it's warm.
As warm so let's go as Dharwar
No, I don't know I live in Austin, Texas. It's 106 You
know, we sit at home we drink Mint Julep we're not going out
fighting. Like hey, I want to go fight No, man. I'm gonna drink
that beer. Okay, right. Stupid like we don't fight here. We
don't I was surprised No, I wasn't surprised. I was laughing
really about the the obvious propaganda that shows up you
know, they're still trying to figure out how can we you know
get some real benefit out of the Boston bombing you know, we just
we didn't remember when it when it first started when when the
when it first happened. We didn't know anything about the
Sarnath brothers. And I should have pulled some of those clips.
Like you know, it was on Patriots Day was probably
someone from the far right you know, some crazy wacko who hates
taxes hates the government. Well, luckily, and I know you
saw this we've come around now and we have an Associated Press
report which is of course you know, it's that means it must be
true. It turns out that the dead Sarnath brother of course it
always has to be the one who can't talk anymore.
Well wait hold on a second. Are you tell him you're talking
about the dead Sarnoff brother that was held down his head was
held down by a guy's boot. Yeah, that would be even though he's
being held down by a guy's boot. His brother runs over him.
Yes, we're the car back and forth. Yeah, that one? Yeah.
I just want to get that straight because this
Tamlyn so they've they've tracked down this story and this
is you couldn't make it any or any crazier. So his mother the
boy's mother Zupa died Sarna, who was also a little bit weird
in this she tried to make ends meet for a family by working as
a home health aide after the family arrived in the US which
by the way, I think you can't just become a home health aide
you can you can go help people you know this this warrant some
investigation exactly what that is, but okay. One of our clients
in 2010. So by now, I guess she's been trained was Donald
Larkin, of Newton, Massachusetts, who was disabled
after he was shot in the face 40 years ago during a robbery of a
convenience store where he worked. Now, Mr. Larkin, this is
I'm reading from the Wall Street Journal. Now the BBC has their
own version of it miraculously survived. But people close to
the family. No sources people close the family said his
faculties did not survive. He was intrigued with and I'm
quoting now, far flung conspiracies. They said he
subscribed to newspapers and journals. I love this. Oh, no, I
gotta read this to you. This is crazy. This is the wall, the
Wall Street Journal. He subscribed to newspapers and
journals that doubted the Holocaust, and described the
attacks of September 11, Oklahoma City and the new town
school as plots by unseen elites, the US and Israeli
governments. Now Mr. Larkin couldn't be interviewed said his
lawyer, Jason Rosenberg. The shooting damage the executive
function area of Mr. Larkins brain, executive function area,
I got to talk to my brain professor about that, making it
difficult for his client to make decisions and impairing quote
his awareness of the realities of the world. So now, if you
believe in alternative theory about or this is the messaging,
messaging, the messaging is if you believe in alternative
theories, then the can Spiritual theories propagated by the
government about September 11. In Oklahoma City, then you are
equal to a brain damaged person who has been shot was shot in
the head now. So, Mr. Sarnath that would be the dead one began
asking his brother to care. Oh, Mrs Starnes, mom began asking
Tamar Tamela and the dead brother or his brother it says
to care for Mr. Larkin when she wasn't available. Sounds like a
real health care operation to me. Mr. Larkins wife, Rosemary,
a quadriplegic, also needed help at home. Mr. Saar Neff seem to
have found a kindred spirit in Mr. Larkin. This is this is
really conjecture here. They became friends and had animated
talks about politics, that people close to the Larkin
family said Mr. Larkin also gave him his readings. They said, a
Wall Street Journal reporter recently visited Mr. sarnafil
apartment in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and read a stack
of newspapers mostly borrowed from Mr. Larkin that alleged
nefarious conspiracies. So let me get this straight. So a Wall
Street Journal reporter walks into, I guess, something that
should be part of a crime scene, the sarnafil apartment in
Cambridge, Massachusetts, and all in this a stack of
newspapers, which he then concludes or somehow produces
were borrowed from Mr. Larkin. And they alleged nefarious
conspiracies. Let's talk about that. The papers included the
first freedom, an Alabama based newspaper that espouses quote,
equal rights for whites, and whose websites feature a
confederate flag. Oh, hey, you got another was the sovereign, a
New York based publication that alleges the US is under the sway
of Israeli lobbyists, and that Israel and the Department of
Homeland Security were, quote, deeply involved in the Boston
bombings? Neither paper returned requests for comment and here
and here's the one that just just slays me. Mr. Sarnath got
his own subscription to American Free Press a paper that our
friends from the southern law isn't at the Southern Poverty
Law Center. Well, they they say here, they say the southern Law
Poverty Center, but I think that's incorrect. I think it's
the Southern Poverty Law Center, said that this paper promotes
anti semitic conspiracy theories. A spokeswoman for a
spokeswoman for the paper denied it had such an agenda saying the
paper publishes quote, news that established media won't. So
again, we're getting very close now. Oh, if if you public if you
say that you talk about things that the established media
won't, you're probably a Jew hater. She confirmed that
someone bought Mr. Sarnoff a get acquainted 16 weeks subscription
in December. It expired in April at about the time of the Boston
Marathon attack. This to me is smoking gun. Key didn't get the
subscription. Someone did. Someone did. Can you say set up?
Possibly. Yeah. And it was only a one year subscription.
Obviously, they knew that no. 16 week 660 which is the time to
end when they didn't care anymore. I gotta read some more
of this. And by the way, it is Southern Poverty.
Yeah, it's incorrect in the Wall Street Journal. Government
investigators say Islamist radicalism was Mr. Sarna has
motive in planting explosives near the finish line of the
race. He frequented jihadi websites authority said. And he
and his brother built their pressure cooker bombs with the
help of al Qaeda online magazine inspire, which published an
article titled How to build a bomb in the kitchen of your mom.
So this is also all conjecture. None of it is proved but being
printed as fact in the Wall Street Journal and hit No.
Quote. This is Bruce Hoffman, from the director of the
Security Studies at Georgetown University by
the way, I just do not see al Qaeda types, having any sort of
sense of humor insofar as they would make a headline like that,
that was not only it was a humorous pun, which I do not
believe is like a mainstay of the Arabic culture. They
have not been doing a lot of stand up the al Qaeda this
weekend at the Comedy Store. Alright, quote. They, meaning
the brothers were jihadi autodidacts. Wow. And no one
person shaped all of their thinking is jihadi autodidacts,
John. How does that work? Mary Ellen O'Toole, former profiler
for the FBI said she doubted that Mr. Saunders extremist
American readings would have formed his opinions but they
could have reaffirmed them. And then, so what are we so far
we've got 911 Oklahoma City We have hating Jews. We have what
else was it? Oh, Jewish lobby. Jews run Congress. We need to
throw Oh yeah. Homegrown radical wrong. autodidact, we've got the
new test means
that the self taught is Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
we can throw a little if let's just throw one more on top of
it. Mr. Sarna also had a marked up copy of the Protocols of the
Elders of Zion. Are you kidding me?
What did they have some sort of a checklist can you add this?
Can you add that can This is like let Leno on that clip where
he starts throwing New York, New York Times. Ellsberg. Stand up
guy stripper girlfriend just throws all the memes in at once.
Are you seeing a meme dump?
Are you familiar with with this, this whole idea of the Protocols
of the Elders of Zion? Everybody is no I don't think everybody is
but it is it has been. It is what people who call others out
as conspiracy theorists and nut jobs. They love pulling out this
Protocols of the Elders of Zion. In here the Wall Street Journal
was kind enough to explain to us what it is a long discredited
tract penned in Russia at the beginning of the 20th century.
It describes an alleged plan by Jewish leaders to take over the
world. Mr. Sarnoff scrawled 22 words he translated from English
to Russian on a Back Page beginning with Gentile and
ending with Mason, Gentile, Mason, and the Wall Street
Journal. They just have I mean, they're just stumbling do they
walk in just open some guy's apartment and all this evidence
is all over the floor. Where's this coming from? This cannot be
taken serious as journalism
was no somebody fed this to him. Whoever it is. And I don't know
it's a business is a very, I'm sure it's a compelling read. Oh
my god. It's really what next? Holy crap. You mean they even
believe that stupid old book. Oh my gosh. Oh. And he uses the
word auto didacticism
auto didacticism ism jihadi autodidact. Wow I'm by curious
autodidact.
Okay, well that's definitely the piece of crap. Article VT but
BBC has very similar article in the Wall Street Journal, expand
that in a in a better way which is more fun to read.
Well, it's more Americanized BBC can only put up with so much of
that stuff.
Did we not put in the red book somewhere that that tore that
you know? Everyone's talking you know everyone's Oh, get to or
get on the onion router get on the to
know you've never went into red book but you have mentioned it
and and you've done you've mentioned that everybody JC I
know buzzkill Jr. is always harping on this. It was
developed for the government. Government Project, I've
always said Who the hell would want to use that if it was
developed by the government? It's got to be compromised. Oh,
gee, what turns out? It's it's compromised. It's
compromised. Yeah, all those outlets are all
people are getting arrested.
Wow, what's always funny thing about I always thought was that
you volunteered to be a tour outlet. Yeah, the wage war works
for people that don't know when you explain it quickly. It's a
place called the onion router. And what happens is you you send
a packet into this like a cloud, but it's an onion edit, and it
gets encrypted and decrypted and swapped around and switched to
here to there and there and the IPS changed and it pops out at
some anonymous port, as you know, just shows up and comes
out this weird port. It's got an IP that's hooked to the guy
whoever owns that port. And guys are always getting in trouble
for because a lot of kiddie porn and stuff would go through the
his port at home, but he because he was a volunteer, supposedly,
and I kept hearing these stories is what got me suspicious. I
kept hearing the stories about people who said I'm going to be
part of the Tor network, and I'm going to be one of the exit
ports. And then that guy would always supposedly be picked up
by the cops every so often because what was coming out of
his port with his specific IP address with knows what kinds of
weird junk now and that he and I said, well, then nobody would
ever become a volunteer to be an exit port unless they were in
the government and they didn't have to worry about all this
harassment from law enforcement. Exactly. And that is exactly
what happens now.
So nuts the giant voice system now that you know I'm just
seeing stories about this every single day people are getting
pretty annoyed by their AI iPhones with Amber Alerts your
iPhone iOS six but I got some guys who are running iOS seven
and the Amber Alerts are just popping off day and night. And I
think you can turn off some but you may not be able to turn off
the giant voice system when the when the President needs to
address you. And Jeff Pelton one of our producers sent me a
screenshot and I need you tell me what's wrong with this. So on
it's Monday August 5, he sent me a screenshot I see AT and T 4g
Amber Alert Boulevard, California Amber Alert license
plate C WC u 986. California blue Nissan Versa four door
what's wrong with this? I don't know it's not it's just it's
it's alerting me to a car. Yeah, it's not telling me what's going
on it's not saying Oh, what
did they had that's that's exact same amber alert all over
yesterday. On all the freeways that normally tell you it takes
10 minutes to get here or there it says right it says child No,
no,
no, but it doesn't say that. Oh, why not? That's my question. So
now now the government is just like oh, we just need to find
Dvorak Lexus white 1982 license Yeah, it's not saying that that
this is a Child Yeah,
that's what you want to do you want to slowly D evolve this has
nothing to do with Amber Exactly. It's just you trying to
get this it'll be bank robbers. Yeah, it'll be it'll be it'll be
interest persons of interest. Yes.
Yes, exactly. Well, hello. Yeah, but we need to we still need to
tell people about this.
Yeah, we do and we're and that's what we're doing. Yeah, that
would be expected Yeah, we got to system let's use it. In fact,
there was a situation in Seattle where they had a real amber
alert but these idiot cops decided to just do it after rush
hour to slow down traffic too much girl ended up dead or
something. Oops I got an off the wall one here. So I was first I
heard this commercial and I said oh, oh this is interesting
because you know somebody's finally paying attention to the
high fructose corn syrup controversy even though you have
this huge lobby corn lobby that was just promoting the sweetener
right? I got the we know about this. And so by listen to this
commercial and it's so well done and it's such a blast against
high fructose corn syrup in terms of putting a mean to pound
hope everyone has a sense of it, you know, I don't know maybe I
shouldn't be the ketchup I should get the organic it's got
sugar. I think the sugar lobby actually wrote this and scripted
this not only them but some really refined public relations
person because when you walk away from this yo play
commercial that just came out about we don't use it anymore.
We don't use high fructose corn syrup anymore because you told
us not to yo the wise public. I think this is the biggest slam
the biggest threat to the to the industry there is I've ever seen
listen to this.
When you asked us to remove high fructose corn syrup from yo play
original and like we were like Sure no problem. And you were
like thanks. But what about thick and creamy and whips? And
we were like Done and done. Now it's out of everything yo
playmaker and you are all Yeah. And we're like is it just us
resistant a really good conversation? You were like I
want to talk but my mouth is told Wilbert do play it is so
good.
You had me at thick and creamy
so that was what's the actress that was on friends she's very
thick and creamy
yeah she's going on no she but she did the she's expensive.
Yeah, the commercials well structured and the visuals have
got showed the yoga this has no HFC you know no high fructose No
no no. And I first saw as good step in the right direction then
I realized that I'm watching obviously sugar industry finally
got there.
They got their idea they got the right people the getting the
right message out and they use sexual overtones it's perfect.
Yeah,
that's tons of it and just kind of that sound like she's got the
dick in her mouth. Yeah,
before we're referral curve we go crack and creamy. Who was the
who was the actress? Lisa Kudrow? Blah. Yeah, she and
she's kind of She's sexy and kinky way.
Jesus. Yeah, I guess that's probably one way to describe it.
But that commercial is a work of art. Yeah. In terms of
propaganda.
Well, that's what it is. It's all propaganda but that's okay.
Lisa Kudrow. Yeah, she's funny. I like her.
Yeah, and she's the one I could pull off the mumbling sandwich.
He's done.
And I don't think people understand that, you know, the
the sex thing is huge in these commercials. And I mean, the
wage, we're all freaking creamy.
Like, yeah, I want, because my mouth
is full of thick and creamy. Write that down as a potential
show title, John thick and creamy here. You know, we're
about to get into thanking our producers and something popped
up on my screen a couple days ago that I thought would it
would help us. We have new people coming onto the show all
the time. And I wanted to give you an example of why we chose
for the model that we've chosen, which is the value for value
model where you know, you get the show for free to show us out
there, you don't ever have to do anything, enjoy it, whatever you
do, but we will ask you to consider if you if you are
paying for other things in your life that perhaps give you less
value, certainly on the entertainment scale, and perhaps
on the news and information scale. And and we do this
because we can't talk the way we talk about things with any type
of commercial conflict. It just it doesn't work. And this is
what the mainstream, which is essentially, kind of minority
media these days, you know, less and less people was it was a
Bezos bought the Washington Post. And like, Wow, 20 $50
million, and it's 400,000 people subscribe to it. Yeah, that's
he. That's not a lot.
No, but it's Washington that subscribes to.
I want to talk about the Washington Post. I'm just saying
that it's yes, it's the minority. It makes total sense.
Washington is the minority of the country. And that's that
little that little thing. And, you know, I want to talk with
you about that, because you actually wrote a column about
it, which I think was interesting. But this is the
conflict that is going on right now. Between NBC News and NBC
entertainment. Have you been following this?
No, no, not really. to NBC News.
So there's a couple of Hillary series.
Oh, yeah, yes. Yeah, right. So
NBC Entertainment, who can't buy a hit is coming out with a I
think it's a series of mini series or a series about Hillary
Clinton. And NBC News, of course, is conflicted about
this. But here is this this has so many layers to it, it's just
you know, two minutes to figure just listen to it, to you can
hear the dissatisfaction internally, how you're being
deprived of information because of worthless chewing gum crap
that has to be put on instead of information where the real money
is in the broadcast industry. And it's funny because this is
Chuck Todd of NBC News on MSNBC with with the morning jerk off
Show and and they're complaining about NBC the whole it's it's
many, many layers of wrong.
The two entities are sometimes at war with each other. I can't
tell you how many fights we've had internally about whether to
cover up you know, we want to cover some live news event and
those those you know, guys on the West Coast, they want to you
know, run some rerun of parks and recreation or whatever.
Great. Yeah,
I love how someone is so in touch he actually says Doogie
Howser, which I think has been on television for 15 years. This
is how in touch these people
because they'll make money that way. And they don't want to, you
know, it's so there's it's actually the relationship is, is
bad. It's never great. It's either, okay, or corporate,
dirty. business works. Let me just say though, the thing is
the fact that Nicole who who comes here and is a good bit and
that you've worked for other networks, asked me for Hey, is
there a real division makes you realize that people really don't
understand that, Chuck is you just said, That's right, like
like, moves, pace, entertainment and entertainment hates noon.
And this
is the joke that the thing that is not discussed here is that
news promotes the entertainment by design, because that's the
only way they can suck up to these guys to keep doing new
shows is by promoting the stupid entertainment division. But
I'll just say in fact, we have even on local channels, but
generally on national and on 60 minutes, for example, you'll see
a lot of be promoting a Viacom star and they'll have them on to
do a great in depth thing because Viacom you know is
related, right, but our local channels, says Oh, who's gonna
be on Letterman tonight? He's gonna Gee let me know what's JLo
or what's Lindsay Lohan
I was just pondering whose was Jay gonna have on tonight?
Anytime you know we take up precious time that they could
sell ads, you know, promoting America's Got Talent. So
and hear the disdain mean they have four and four shows that
are actually making money but the nice near he said that.
Hey, actually, please NBC entertainment. Can you please
make some money? Oh my god.
Oh no, you didn't just make fun of the boss. Oh,
boy. Thank God for all of the cable channels, right? Yeah,
exactly. Yeah, USA Network. But, but the real issue is it goes to
the fact that Nicole didn't know that.
You also have to understand what they just said there. Thank God
for all the cable channels. The reason they say that is because
these productions which NBC can't buy a hit with, would cost
too much money if they didn't have the secondary markets where
they can have reruns going forever on Bravo and all these
other chant TNT,
that's somebody who is well informed about sort of the
machinations of of how the media works. This is why this mini
series is a total nightmare for NBC News, because it doesn't,
you know, we know there's this giant firewall, we know we have
nothing to do with it. We know that we'd love probably to be as
critical or whatever it is going to be if it comes out, but
there's nothing we can do about it. And we're gonna only own the
negative, whether it's negative, because you know, the Clinton
people are upset that it's too tough on them or negative
because the Republicans think it's this glorification of her
no matter what, only we are going to own it because people
are going to see the peacock. And they see NBC and they see
NBC News, and they think, well, they can't be that separate. So
you get the negative and they get the cash. Correct. I've been
in a lot of deals like that. I like to be on the other side of
that.
They all really want to be in show business where the real
money is. That's a good kicker. Little point made at the end.
Yeah. With a pretty good job at Genoa, Jen zymogen All the
people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun
all right. We do have a lot of people to thank today yeah, we
do have a little special promotion for the anniversary.
Since we were married on eight eight ADA we asked for $88.88
And you know what?
You know what this shows to me? I thought about this and like
Wow, a lot of people you know really came in with with their
donations for 8888 It shows to me that people despite what you
think and popular opinion really do, like you
know, they like me.
But it's no, I'm kidding. But it's a very family type thing I
really love.
It's a family run. This is essentially the family that
keeps the show going exactly. You know we have the Big Daddy
You know, Grand Duke Pels, mockers and all the others
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Marriott Okay, get a deal at the Marriott It's fine with me
there's the downtown Marriott in Times Square isn't big but
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So what kind of deal can we get? Oh no, he
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lost wages Nevada 9131. To Penny. This is a this is an 8888
donation, but he's made a switcheroo on it. That's a penny
for every day of Jonathan's marriage 9131 days but who's
counting? imaginarily I am Imagine if
you'd put a penny aside every day.
Yeah, you'd have 90 100 Wow. Oh god, I'm not I'm not demeaning
the donation. I'm just saying if this is the way you'd save money
for being married for 25 years, less than 100 bucks you can't
even you know get a decent meal nowadays. be outstanding.
Another donation from the grand jury.
You know, eventually you do just get jingles on this show.
We hope to make it all jingle show
all you mentioned all jingle donation segment was just one
after another. A Yeah, that would be nice.
He wanted to donate and the day itself. We squeezed him into
today's spreadsheet. And he says Happy anniversary. Nietzsche of
Anatoly from Russia, Ada Ada, along my congratulations to John
and me. We'd like to remind everybody that five years ago at
midnight of 88808 2008 ga led by Craig The Thai eating maniac and
Bush puppet. Doc's really suck really, really open MRL fire on
the capital of South cosecha and started a tank assault on the
city killing hundreds of obsessions, civilians and 10
Russian peacekeepers, Russia's military answer was treated by
Western media as unprovoked aggression. And only only no
agenda was bang on from the start. It's right. late start
but that's still that's still in the lexicon. Everyone will say
oh man Russia attacked Georgia no Georgia attacker, Russia, and
it's been admitted but no one remembers it that way.
All right. Well, we have one Russian who who's donated to the
anniversary amount because he remembers that this is the show
is like that we have a lot of stuff that we've brought up. Of
course, like the forced landing, which I have a little clip of
another version. Apparently Glenn Greenwald has kind of
changed the way he structures his wording because of that. Oh,
really? Okay. forced landing that took place with the guy
from Bolivia. Anyway, their names the people that these are
all 88 donors Jason Doolin and lost wages. Sir Bernie at SEMA
at tema in Hinton, Iowa Wayne, Lark comb and Sunnybank hills,
Queensland Sir Thomas Nussbaum, in Virginia Beach, Virginia Kent
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Dr. Sharkey, Craig Whiting, East Kilbride, UK and Larry Stewart
Norman Oklahoma Michael Miller over here in Tiburon,
California, John Schuhmann in Madison, Wisconsin, Jacob sharer
in crystal Minnesota, Minnesota nuts, Daniel Mick tau or Mick
tuff in Silver Springs, Maryland wait Deming in Anchorage,
Alaska, Richard Gardner in in more New South Wales krad Creek,
Chad, Chad, Christian in Erie, Colorado, hey, those are the
people that say, oh my gosh, this is John and Mimi, here's
more value for value. The Shore armed me with talking points in
his short temper when confronted with friends spouting mainstream
media memes the other night, lost some friends saved my
sanity That's
right, no agenda where you lose your friends. And that concludes
our 8888 segment I will point out that 88 Also if you send so
you have 70 threes which is you know, hey, nice to meet you. But
88 is hugs and kisses John in case you didn't know that's also
a kind of a nice extra bonus to the meme hugs and kisses. And
and I would also like to say on behalf of the the curry family,
happy anniversary to you and Mimi.
Well, thank you very much,
but I'm not giving you any ADA dollars. Now I thought one of
these
guys had actually come up with 88 and I'm looking for it on
here. But I'll have to thank him later but one of the donors came
with it. I thought it was at 800 before the mailing request went
out he was actually the first one and I'm gonna have to now
dig his email up. Paul groves in weighing Retta Victoria
Australia 7451 St. John karma worked a lesson got an interview
even after Adam stepped on John. Oh, who is about to read my
note. Luckily John managed to slip in my karma request by the
time and this is read but be more hours away from having said
interview it'd be a job karma top off please. Can you give him
a job? Job karma? I guess I'll give him
a top up. You didn't charge at the top offs. Okay, that's your
job. I'm not talking Hey, you've got karma. And Lin's gentleman
6969 6969 is still alive and we're gonna just name people
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to lose the the thread but not the case. So Michael Miller in
Tiburon, Jennifer, Jennifer Harley in Waterloo, Ontario with
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and then there's Dan Sorkin, Baroness Tanya of Manhattan
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a check. Last
longhand longhand note from the Baroness Yes. Resume. Yes. After
leaving.
After hearing that her he has over gills. How much Pay Pal
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checks? No, I'm planning to set up a monthly check payment from
my bank, no postage, no fees. And it's just as easy as Pay
Pal. All the best to the best podcasts in the world universe
by the way, I can write in cursive, but I won't subject you
to that. What is this then?
You know that I was really the only I was reading about this
that. You know, if you write notes in longhand, it's very
difficult to machines can't really the optical character
recognition doesn't work very well on longhand, certainly.
Especially the one that they use on your on your mail,
your mail, but yeah, so you want to do your address and all block
letters. But you want to you want to write all your notes in
longhand. I think that we need to be returning back to the days
of longhand and Morse code.
It's essentially looks like code to the machine does. Oh, I
don't know what this is encrypted. It's encrypted. I
don't know if we can break the algorithm.
Matthew Roman in Huntersville, North Carolina 60 969. And
finally, Edward Hines in Jackson, Jacksonville, Florida.
And that wraps it up 6969
That's good. Keep it going people
to others, we got 5533 from Nathan Kraddick in the Los
Angeles
he had his PayPal weekly subscription canceled. This
keeps happening and it's bad enough that the subscription
gets cancelled but then they send you a note saying no agenda
show those guys don't want your money. It's no good. No good
cancel your subscription.
Pretty much what it says and apparently this Nathan guy loves
it when I refer to Rex. The fantastic coding are actually
scripting Morrow I think
I've referred to Rex more than you have but okay. You wrote the
book. That's the difference.
Jonathan Rose double nickels on the dime from net Tanya Israel.
He says the latest stipend from the Mossad. For my propagation
of the Jewish agenda. Good work
is what he says it's sorry it's only a pittance but of course we
Jews are cheap. Oh,
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on the dime. And he needs some give some common name at the end
for house relocation. And finally $50 Each from Dan Daniel
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Paul Levy in Grinnell, Lee, Iowa. Let me slide this up a
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Carolina. And finally Mack harbor LLC in Winnipeg,
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here in Oakland. He's a monthly regular I got to thank them and
everybody else who helped us out there's a bunch of people with
all kinds of comments here. I got another down the list.
I got a note from the back office about a special request
from Jennifer Hartley, who was one of our 6969 swells enough
donors. I'd really appreciate it if you could give a shout out to
my husband xenon. He'd also love it if you called him a real
stand up Shizen or something similar including the word
citizen that's the most important thing he listened to
you religiously and this was the best birthday present I could
think of for him He'll be so happy he might even do a dance
it's always lovely when when when spouses hand in a donation
for for their loved one
Yeah, I think that's fantastic.
And I bet he is a real stand up citizen
on what kind of a toilet use thick and
creamy that's that's what she said thick and creamy. Didn't
she
know I was the other girl? No, I know but the Lisa girl. Yeah,
no, this is thick and creamy,
thick and creamy. We have a show twice a week. And we do we don't
have a network we don't have we have we do have a back office
consisting of family members of John and and which is fine.
That's fine now
and it's a low budget operation. We do our best we do our
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It's interesting. The back office has Jennifer Hartley's
note in the birthday list as well. Hey, xenon, you're a real
stand up citizen and serve burning atom of lated. Shout out
to his son, John, who celebrated on August 5. Happy birthday from
your friends here at the best podcast in the universe. Now we
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who becomes Baron Thomas of Bahrain, the Baron of Bahrain
and he can divvy that up however he wants to. And we've got two
nice things which are going to take care of so did you grab
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all of your support. And thank you also for your, your, the
love that you've shown for John Amini. Very nice. You know,
Mickey and I had our anniversary. I don't think we
even talked about it was dumb. We could have gotten $1 from
everybody.
For our first anniversary one.
We almost let's see August, I think August 28. To 21 Second,
what is the I think it was the 20 Oh, it was on a show day that
I quit that we both quit smoking. Oh, it's almost been
a you got married when the day you quit smoking? No.
Our wedding gift to each other was that we would quit smoking.
Oh, the 25th
No re gifting.
No trade ins. Oh, and I've also must give karma to everybody who
requested it. You've got karma. Perfect. Yeah, August 25 is our
one year no smoking anniversary. I think that's pretty good. I'm
pretty proud and
especially what what you should be and hopefully you can just
who am going to ever smoke again. Going back to the
Netherlands and tonight everyone's smoking around there.
Oh, I forgot to mention that as Denmark. I forgot to mention
something when we arrived. Was it yesterday day before
yesterday, last Tuesday night whatever. from Atlanta in
Austin. As we're coming into land, I see the emergency crash
vehicles with their lights on somewhere off the you know, like
on the apron or whatever the off the runway. And I'm not gonna go
you know, this is in Hartsfield. No, this is Burke's from Austin.
So we're landing in Austin. And upon approach I look over
because I'm always you know, look, I'm you know, pilot so I'm
looking at what's going on. I see the crashed vehicles. I'm
like, well, that's weird that they've got their lights
flashing. I'm like, huh, so there's a couple of
possibilities. One is we're on fire and no one has told us
that's very possible. So I'm looking at any foam on the
runway. No, I don't see any foam. And perfect landing
everything's fine. And then the captain comes on the horn. And
he says Ladies, Gentlemen as we as we're taxiing in when we get
to the gate I'd like you to wait for a moment so the honor guard
can get off the plane first who are accompanying a fallen
soldier but we transported back home to Austin and this is
really weird you know because you're you're happy to be home
and then all sudden this this and the whole plane goes like
complete silence you know it's like wow so you know during the
you were at the gate and then everyone waits but maybe five
minutes right and then everyone's getting up because I
guess the guy remember we got the first class upgrade so I
couldn't see what's going on behind us but right underneath
my window
today Wait hold on a second didn't the honor guard weren't
down the plane getting oil is it oh there's there's a there is a
coffin in the plane but no honor guard on the plane. The car was
outside the coffin.
Nope. So the so you have the guys who accompany the coffin on
the plane. But then so so so Let me get off. Let me let me
backtrack for a second. So as we land now we're taxing towards
the gate. I see what the crash vehicles are. There's too. So
it's, you know, they've got the honor guard, they got the
hearse, they got everything. The two there two fire trucks and
they start shutting out they start like a bridge of water. So
the plane goes underneath, like, you know, an arc of water, which
it kind of gives me gave me goosebumps, actually, you know,
that was kind of the you're honoring the phone's cool. Yeah,
it was like, wow, you know, everyone was really quiet. So
then Yeah, so the so the the guys who have the honor guard
who accompany the coffin, they got off first and everyone's
like getting off. And right underneath my window, I see the
cargo door open. And I'm walking. And I actually put a
picture on my blog, if you go to blog.curry.com you can see it
right there. Now, I took a number of pictures, because I
witnessed this entire scene taking place. It was chilling,
John, I mean, so I see the coffin coming out. I see the
honor guard coming up to get I see the family I see the maybe
wife or sister, you know, falling to the ground collapsing
in grief. Just grief. It was it was really, really hurt. It was
hurtful. I couldn't get up. I could not. I felt it would be
wrong to not wait until this coffin to soldier was in the
hearse and gone. I couldn't do it. And there were maybe three
or four other people in the whole plane. And but no, also no
one said, Hey, you gotta get off. You know, that was kind of
was nice. I'm just sitting there in awe
FDA get out. Don't watch that.
But you know, it was it was it was really It touched? Yeah,
sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead.
You've posted a picture that you never gets posted. This is a
good picture, I would advise people to go to blog.curry.com
because this is the picture that the mainstream media never won't
post. No. No, they won't put this aside now.
It's not on television, they never show this. And then I went
and I do this from time to time and yeah, and you look it up
just like this. You know, this past week, another eight
servicemen and women died. You don't hear about it. You know,
they never talk about it. And during the Vietnam War. This was
the it was the every night they showed the flag draped coffins.
And that really changes your perception. You know, it really
makes you think about what's going on. In fact, when we went
to
um, you don't need to see this boy. Yeah, what
they've collectively decided that right. I mean, we've talked
about this this was these wars have not been televised, you
don't see the death and destruction. Right. I went to
Christina, my daughter.
That's by the way, this is on purpose, because they know it
would discuss the public and they get pissed and they'd vote
these idiots out of office, but they won't. But the media plays
the game. And that's the end of it. So these guys do
exactly. That picture taken with an iPhone five, by the way. Not
bad.
No, but and kids. Well, you shooting it through a good piece
of wing wrap. Yeah. Plastic and I still think it's actually a
good picture isn't a nice composition is really it's a
great shot. It's a good picture. And you
see off to the right. There's the family. I mean, I didn't
post the shots with a woman was just, she's crusius collapse.
She's crying. She's sobbing on the ground. You know, and you
don't know the story. You know, you don't know exactly who's who
and B but you do know the story. You know that? That's kind of
it. You do know the story. And then I tried to Google for I
want to know who the Who Who is this kid? Doesn't you can't even
find a single story about you know, Soldier coming home to
Austin. Nothing. Nothing. flabbergasting to me.
Welcome.
We were at this. So Christina. And her and her girlfriend said,
oh, you know, we want to hang out with you guys. Let's go. And
let's do something fun. Let's go to a red carpet premiere of a
movie in Amsterdam. And you know, we will it'll be cool.
We'll look like a family unit. You know, which of course is
new. We're an odd bunch together, but it'll be fun. And
we'll go see a movie. We'll have dinner afterwards. We'll hang
out so they kind of put together this whole afternoon night. And
we go to see so we got to do the red carpet premiere in Amsterdam
of the Lone Ranger
debate by most to be one of the worst movies ever made. No
no, it is not the worst movie ever made. It is the biggest
piece of crap worst movie ever made in it takes it drags on for
ever. But we do the red carpet and you know and then what
happens is you stand there for pictures and video and then and
then we go in and then there's always a couple of reporters so
called reporters. And, and one of them said, you know, they
kind of accost you and it's part of the deal. You know, you kind
of got to talk to him for a minute, he said Hey, you know,
we'd have this you know, this thing we're doing like, you
know, if you were Miss Universe, you know, what would you want
for the world? Like really? You're asking me this question
and and just before I knew it and this is Holland your they
hadn't the last time they think I'm still a disc jockey you know
at MTV. I don't know what I've been what I've done, I have no
clue, they really have no clue. And I say, Phil, you know, I
would really like for us to stop dropping bombs from drones on
brown people who live in the sand. And I'd like for the brown
people to tell their their leaders to stop trying to kill
us over here. And you could just see the guy like, ooh, but it
just didn't compute, you know, when you
ain't gonna be used. Who's that guy?
Well, this is another thing. So what you're doing these days,
how do you make money? Well, I carry Mickey's bag. And I set up
her lights and stuff. And you're absolutely right. Nowhere is
there any say no
agenda show.com team do you think that that had given them a
disk?
Mickey Mickey promoted no agenda. Big time. She got it in
the big newspaper. Good. Yeah. But they don't care all they
care about it. But he's doing their job. When you guys gonna
have kids. That's the only thing they care about. So you're gonna
have a kid you're gonna have kids. It's like, it's it's
really stupid. And then my daughter, bless her. She jumped
she has no oh, they're waiting for the grandkids. Me and my
girlfriend are gonna make them. Look at the rule. How are you
going to do that? And her girlfriend is like, well, I
don't see my cock hanging right here. It's very funny. That was
on they did broadcast that actually that was pretty funny.
Yeah, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we've done Holland you got left
on the cutting room floor. I'm
out. Just set dressing.
Yeah, you gotta go get a lecture.
I want to hear me. Oh,
this is a greatest movie I've ever seen.
I got a couple of funny things. Now. We got some time here. We
got about 20 minutes. I got some, I think some pretty good
clips. Jen Psaki, who, by the way, she is the new spokes hold
the red soul is devil the ginger of the State Department who was
taken over for Vickie Nuland, who now is who has slept her way
to the top. I'll say it. Jen Psaki, by the way, is appears
quite often in the this town book about Washington. And she's
quite a quite a mover and a shaker. Now, you recall this,
she's condescending person I've ever seen in this job?
Well, she in our friend Matt from Reuters had been going back
and forth about the status of Egypt, because as we know, by
law in the United States by US Code, if, if this is a coup if
the arm if this has been a a forceful regime change by the
military, then all foreign aid must stop by law. So of course,
we don't whatever we do, we don't want to call it a coup.
And Matt is just this guy, he's gonna get some Boston breaks one
of these days, because he is just going at her and and he I
think he finally got her a little bit flustered, although
not really because at the end of the day, she just will stand
there with a stone cold face, and just not call it what it is.
But listen to this exchange, which I found to be quite
entertaining.
First question about Senator McCain's comments you gave. You
said Our position has not changed, as you just did with
Morsi. On McCain's comments, though, our position has not
changed. Then you said the US government has stated what our
position is? Could you remind us all what your position actually
is? Because as I recall, your position was that you don't have
a position. And that's not quite so Is that correct?
Matt? I think you know, our position which told me there was
a determination made that we need to need not need to make a
designation.
So your position is that you do not have a position.
Our position is that we do not need to make a designation. Oh,
go and does does Deputy Secretary Burns plan to meet
with President Morsi. We talked about it yesterday, but I don't
have any other plans for that on his schedule. I
just go back to your answer to my question. Yes. You do
understand that. Yes. You don't have a position on this, don't
you?
We have not made a determination don't.
You go and say our position has not changed but you don't have a
position. You don't have a position that could could have
changed. Position means taking a side or taking a stance or
making a determination and since you didn't do that, you do not
by definition have As a physician
we have correct. I would disagree with you, Matt. So you
have a position on whether what happened in Egypt was a coup. We
have determined that we do not need to make a determination the
same as not having a position
we have determined we don't have to make a determination whereas
the rest of the media people, how can we be a free country? If
this is just getting by? If this is just just let it go? We do
doesn't matter. We have made a determination we don't need to
make a determination. Hey, Matt, chefs slave shut off. God, I got
some I got something. Go ahead. Go ahead. I got some I got some.
I think I have a good I have two things and then I'll let you
close it up. I've got a Glenn. I've got a Glenn Greenwald clip,
which is the gaffe of the week. On where did it where was this
extracted democracy now? Are you ready?
Okay. Well, I have a couple of democracy now wants to be we'll
see what you have.
By the way, how 80s is that music for Democracy Now?
Oh, seven. Back announcing these songs. That was green, green
grass by the green grass, light lighters in them. And, you know,
just give me
Tony Orlando and Dawn with a yellow ribbon round the old oak
tree. Everybody, welcome to Democracy Now.
Glenn Greenwald, your response. And what happens? Now of course,
I spoke to him before temporary asylum was granted by Russia.
But of course it is temporary. And what is Edward Snowden
saying to you about what his plans are now? Is this the
period where he's continuing to push for asylum? Or will he make
his home in Russia? But he really
is considered to be quite a hero. I mean, he's a hero here.
He's a hero in Asia. He's now a hero in Russia. By all accounts.
I think what you see is populations around the world
really grateful to be able to have this information as far as
Mr. Snowden spying plans or contrived silent plans are
concerned.
Did you hear it? Be? What was it? What was the gaff? You hear
it again?
I mean, he's a hero here. He's a hero in Asia. He's now a hero in
Russia. By all accounts. I think what you see is populations
around the world really grateful to be able to have this
information. Okay, here it comes in. As far as Mr. Snowden spying
plans are contrived asylum plans are concerned.
As far as Mr. Snowden spying plans. Asylum plans,
flying, flying, spying, spying,
spying plans? Oh, I missed that.
Maybe. Mr. Snowden is a double agent.
All we suggested is right off the bat. But here's
the gaff. I mean, he said as far as, as far as his spying plans,
I mean, his asylum plans. It's a far cry from asylum to spying.
Where does he come up with spying?
It's not his brain is why he said exactly. The human being
cannot tell you must tell the truth at all times. So they
always buy gaps if necessary. So Well, I mean, one of the thesis
is, was you just put this guy in such a situation, that there's
no way that you can, you got to place him someplace, so he can
make some because he can hack computers. Apparently, he's a
genius added, according to his father, so he can get into
Russia get a job at the Russian Facebook. And the next thing,
you know, he's got a bunch of stuff. And he's that he's on,
he's a hero. But then they can't do that either. Because you
can't announce your, you know, the, I don't know how they went
through how they're going to do this. But I did get a new piece
of information, which I thought was interesting. And I got some
Greenwald clips, too, that I thought were very good. They're
a little long. But I've got this clip of this. And unfortunately,
the guy's name is on a back of an envelope downstairs. So I
can't tell you who it is. But it's he's one of these analysts
that's got a lot of Russian background, and he's discussing
the Snowden information. With the backdrop of, you know, Obama
bailing out of the meeting that they were going to have, you
know, you know, the meeting wasn't going to be productive
anyway. And he kind of agrees with that. But this is the
analysis of Obama Putin with new information that there's a
little tidbit in here that we nobody knew about President
Obama mishandled the situation with Putin over Snowden.
explain, explain what you mean by that. And is that how Russian
officials that you've talked to felt?
Well, Snowden came to Russia, not at the invitation of the
Russian government? They actually from what I was told,
and it was confirmed to me by US officials, that the US
government have informed the Russians about Snowden being on
the plane from Hong Kong to Moscow. Only Wenzhou Blaine has
already left Hong Kong. So, Snowden was traveling to Cuba.
He was supposed to board a plane to Cuba, a Russian plane next
day. Then the US government goes to the Cubans. And despite a
rather difficult years given the relationship, the Cubans decided
to accommodate the United States and not allow Snowden to go
while Cuba. So she is Snowden at the Russian airport. He is there
for less than six hours. And the Secretary of State already wants
fuchun about consequences. And the State Department already
expressed strong concern. And Senator Schumer wants Fujin
about terrible implications for the relationship and says that
Putin put a knife in the American back.
So this is about Cuba.
Well, this seems a little sketchy to me. But why didn't
Snowden take the tree had it all lined up? He could either go to
Ecuador, Venezuela with a flight through Cuba. Now according to
this guy, the United States when we don't even have any relations
with Cuba, we supposedly hate them. And we have all these
sanctions. And I don't know if we can do any more sanctions. I
guess we got a hold of somebody said Look, you're not gonna let
that that Snowden guidelines in Cuba, you're turning him over to
us or something. Or they say you better just refuse to fly don't
let Snowden into Cuba. So he can't catch that flight to
Venezuela. Now, I didn't know any of this, but it does explain
why he didn't take the flight the next day.
Right, right. Right. It was
never explained
as as a as an addition to that on Saturday. A surface combat
squadron of the Russian Navy arrived in Cuba for the first
time in four years. Friendly visit, they called it they had
the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet, the missile cruiser
Moscow, and the large anti submarine ship Vice Admiral Kula
cov of the Northern Fleet and a number of supply and service
ships. That's kind of close.
Yeah, something's something is up. Alright, so I've got three
Greenwell clips that are a little lengthy one, it was
really long. But I thought it was such a great rant that I
have it we can either play at the end or maybe after the show
closes. It's long enough. That'd be a show close. We don't need
to talk about it. But I got a couple of things here that are
interesting, which is the Greenwald, this is where he
rephrases The force, you know, the fold the plane from Bolivia
was forced down it which we've debunked. Do we want actual
cockpit chatter?
Do we want to play that again? Or people think that we played
it twice? I don't think we need to play it again. Because I just
want to point out that the wording of the phrasing of the
thing being forced down since it's interesting,
let me let me just reiterate then quickly, we have the
cockpit recording of the FAA BS 0001. I think it is, which is
the Bolivian president's plane asking to land and in Austria,
saying that they have some fuel gauge malfunction, they want to
check it out. There was no forced landing there was they
requested to land under a bogus mind you a that's a very typical
pilot trick is to say someone's sick, they're puking. You do
that on a small plane, or you know, we have something you
can't declare an emergency. But you know, we have something
that's a little irritating, like we're not so sure about the fuel
gauge. So we just want to go down and check it out. That is
the truth. There was no forced landing. No one has admitted
this, as far as I know.
Right? We're the only ones that discuss this. So anyway, and we
have the evidence and we can play the clip again. We played
it a couple of times. We'll play it again in the future, I'm
sure. But so he changes his wording but the funny thing is
when it goes when they kick it back to Amy Goodman, I'm not
sure to have the whole thing she's back on the old script.
And it's actually kind of funny to listen to.
Greenwald Greenwald has been taught he has been a big
propagator of this lie about the Bolivian aircraft being forced
down he is talked about this quite a bit.
Right now he is changing now cheap, because he knows this is
bogus. So he's changed the wording so it's all now instead
of forced landing, it's all weasel words. And when you hear
it, you go you roll your eyes, even though Amy Goodman is still
on the old old meme. Yeah, I
think one of the things that the United States has done is really
kind of showed the world what its character is in over the
last two months through its really extreme and radical
behavior. I mean, I can tell you hear in Latin America was really
event shifting was when they cause the plane of Evo Morales
to be down in Austria. airspace, right. So for their European
allies, you know, and I think The final point to note about
this is everyone in the world knows probably except for
Americans that the United States routinely refuses to extradite
all sorts of people accused of horrible crimes. I mean, in
Bolivia, the ex president who's accused of all sorts of war
crimes, and was protected and propped up by the CIA is living
comfortably United States, which refuses to turn him over. And
that's been true of other Latin Americans who have been accused
of serious crimes of terrorism. So I think when the United
States pretends to be outraged that they don't get what they
want next tradition, everyone in the world knows that they
frequently do the same thing and much more extreme cases, I think
it's
actually to say the plane was down. That's almost like being
shot down. So it's worse that's making it worse. It's been
downed by our friends. That's right. I called up my friends in
Europe and said down that plane.
Yeah, well, I met you, I think, but he has changed it. No forced
landing. It's now you know, kind of
when, when is Greenwald going to stop?
I don't know. But this bit this one here. I got here the the
analysis of Obama Putin with a no I'm sorry, the best Greenwald
rant ever. The guy that two guys that they had the intelligence
committee, the Republican, the Democrat, the Democratic guys, a
total douchebag. And he calls him out here. And I think this
is really one of the most important things you can listen
to.
This is the this is the best grant. Yeah. Okay.
As it relates to this information. And we will
continue to do that. Because what we're trying to do now is
to get the American public to know more about what's going on
than NSA is following the law, and that we have checks and
balances. We have the courts, we have both the Senate and House
Intelligence Committee. We have justice department, we have
checks and balances here to make sure that NSA does not violate
the law in what they're doing. And you know, since the these
two programs have come into effect, specially the metadata,
there has not been one incident of any member of the NSA
breaking any law whatsoever, but we can do better. I have to
educate my caucus more than Democratic caucus, and we're
trying to declassify as much as we can.
That's democratic Congressmember death, Ruppersberger. Glenn
Greenwald, your response.
I helped Dutch Ruppersberger take some much more prominent
role in the political debate because he's basically the
embodiment of the rotten soul that has become the Democratic
Party. Not only does the district encompass Fort Meade,
which is the headquarters of the NSA, which explains in part why
he is the stalwart, steadfast NSA loyalists, but he is vamos
drowning in cash from the defense and intelligence
industries. He's the second leading recipient in the entire
United States House of Representatives of money from
those industries. And he then gets placed on the very
committee that the church committee created the mid 1970s,
to exercise oversight over the agency and the community that
basically ensures that his coffers are stuffed full of
cash. So of course, he becomes the leading spokesperson for
that agency, and then goes around defending it and saying
they've done nothing wrong, and they're in their vital and
indispensable to our national security. That's the leading
Democrat on that committee. But the thing that he was asked was
about in terms of members of Congress being blocked from
information, basic information isn't my claim, members of
Congress came to me with this grievance, and asked me to write
about it. And they gave me correspondence between
themselves and the Intelligence Committee. And what they were
asking for was not very sensitive information. They were
asked for the most basic things, things they read about in media
accounts, such as the ruling by the FISA court in 2011, that
much of what the NSA has been doing on Americans domestically
is a violation of the Constitution and the law. There
really is a me and 85 page 86 Page ruling issued by the FISA
court that says the government has been systematically breaking
the law and violating the Fourth Amendment and how it spies on
us. And not only can we not see that ruling, because it remains
a secret at the insistence of the Obama administration. Even
our elected representatives in Congress who are told are
exercising robust oversight are blocked from seeing it. And
that's the correspondence that we published that was given to
me by various House members. So yeah, they do get meetings with
General Alexander where they get to raise their hand and ask
questions, and General Alexander says we're violating we're not
violating the law and we are strictly adhering to what our
guidelines are. He can say whatever he wants, they want to
get the actual documents. That's how you exercise oversight, and
they're being denied it about the most basic information about
both the NSA and the FISA court.
Yeah, I have a similar clip, which I won't play about that
last part about this report, which now Greenwald the
difference in the clip I had in yours that he now he says is
8485 pages. This of course, is the document that I'm just
salivating I'm dying to get my hands on. And I think yeah, I
think I have a piece of the puzzle. As you know, I've been
watching this this guy this English, who was the second in
command under Kaiser Alexander Yeah, slick English. Yeah, this
is the guy who I our insiders are telling us will become I'm
the replacement for Janet Napolitano at DHS. No one is
talking about the guy as being the replacement. But our
insiders, who I trust, are saying that he is teed up and
he's got he's very, very well connected. He also he's got the
look, you know, kind of nondescript, douchebag spook.
He's got the voice. And he said something on June 8, I believe,
when he was asked, which gives away part of, I think, how
they're how they're circumventing the law. So let me
just
for the record, state, is NSA spying today, or have you spied
on American citizens? We do not target US persons anywhere in
the world without a specific court warrant? And does the NSA
listen to the phone calls of American citizens? We do not
target are listening to the telephone calls of US persons
under that targeting without a specific court warrant? Does the
NSA read the emails of American citizens? Same answer, ma'am.
Does the NSA read the text messages of American citizens?
Again, we do not target the content of us person
communications without a specific warrant anywhere on the
earth.
But that could be from space. Why would he say anywhere on the
earth? He didn't say anywhere on earth? He said anywhere on the
earth.
So you're saying you're saying by implication that he's
referring to pulling down all the communications that runs
through the satellite systems? Yep. Yep, that's that's a
stretch, but I like it.
Well, we'll see because this document this, this FISA court
document, will it will surface eventually it's
what's known. It's Election Day there. They're probably trying
to destroy all copies, as we speak, so to speak, but what
happened? There was one more thing that I got out of
Greenwald, and this long thing, it's not it's another longest
clip, but I didn't know you know, I think we knew this, but
we didn't think about it. But I think Greenwald brings up a
topic which calls out Wyden and these other guys who are always
like, acting like they're trying to help the public. And he
mentioned something and I, you know, that needs to be reminded
this is Greenwell senators can say what they want on the floor
of Congress that they can say they can tell the biggest
secrets, they can say whatever, because they're immune, and play
this. Just Yes, play this
clip. We ask you something. The former Alaska Senator Mike
Ravel, who is the one who got the Pentagon Papers put into the
Congressional Record and then had been published by Beacon
Press the whole 1000s of pages. He said that the senators who
have been really sounding the alarms people like Senator
Udall, Senator Wyden, of course, ones who've been warning
Americans and sort of cryptic way, saying you got to find out
about this could actually go much further now that so much
has been released by you and even the Obama administration.
Right? Well, there was there's an article in Foreign Policy
magazine over the weekend by the Yale Law Professor Bruce
Ackerman, that makes the same point. Remember, United States
senators have full constitutional immunity against
prosecution for anything that they say on the floor of the
Senate and Daniel Ellsberg, when he was trying to get people to
read the Pentagon Papers actually wanted to get Mike
Ravel and other senators to go to the floor of the Senate and
read the Pentagon Papers because they would have been immune from
prosecution. You know, as much as I liked the fact that Ron
Wyden and Mark Udall have been sounding the alarms for a couple
of years, winking and hinting at Americans, that they would be
shocked to learn all the things that the Obama administration is
doing in secret. They didn't have the courage to tell us what
those things were that they thought we should know, it took
Mr. Snowden to come forward who doesn't have immunity, and tell
us and interestingly, the very first interview I ever did on
ABC about this case, I was followed by Senator Udall and
they asked him Are you all about Edward Snowden? And the first
thing he said was, I deplore his leak. So you know, Mark Udall
didn't have the courage to do what Edward Snowden did. He
tried to get the country to know there was something going on
that we should know, but didn't come forward and say even though
we have this protection, but I think Senator Gravelle and Bruce
Ackerman are absolutely right. There are all sorts of ways that
if Ron Wyden and Mark Udall and others really believe as they're
saying that there are serious abuses going on in the NSA, they
could let us know and could do so with total protection, not
unlike me, who's reporting it and being threatened with
imprisonment or Mr. Snowden, who has been charged for letting us
know, they could actually exercise their constitutional
prerogatives as a senator, than tell us what they think that
that we ought to know. And they ought to do a lot more of that.
You know, I my focus is now going to be on Glenn Greenwald.
This is, I mean, who died and made him the center of this
universe?
I mean, well, you know, I'm with you on that one. One part but
it's because I don't think anybody else wants to do this.
Now there's something else going on. There's a reason why he's
the center of this. This is this this is this is just too much.
And that he's willing.
I mean, he's just is too much I agree he's doing
more for I mean, how can the Guardian even put up with this?
He's, he's going on. He's building Glenn Greenwald the
brand, I guess. Hell yeah. And it's just one thing after
another this guy um, I don't know it's it's worrisome.
I would you be stunned if he turned out to be a CIA operative
or something. Well, stop this NSA crap and going on because
maybe that other agency doesn't care much for because they're
getting followed and, and listened to to they don't like
six
mi six, I would say more. So when pointed out to me the other
day that if you as possible, well, that the Guardian is
British intelligence. Come on. Yeah. Someone pointed out to me
that if you look at the at the ratio of Democrats, the
Republicans in the agencies, CIA is predominantly Republican,
NSA, predominantly Democrat, I thought has to be an interesting
observation. Get that one. Now one of our producers mailed mail
that to me, I should I should pull it up. But I was like,
yeah, it's something I you know, I didn't verify, you know, I
didn't do the research on on all the names, when like that. Could
that could be something to it, you know, and we know that we
have always suppose that there's some kind of warring factions
here between the agencies, but for it to actually be Republican
Democrat parties. Interesting.
I like that. And that's a new dimension.
And we know that Greenwald is, you know, harping on the
Democrats. So that would kind of be where you get your CIA slash
mi six thing from so I don't know. I don't know. But it he is
out there way too much. Way too much weight
is available for is available for consulting all those sitting
by the phone.
What's the time is Brazil the different times?
Three hours ahead of us? It's not. It's not that there's not
not
not a big difference. And he's always sitting between those two
mountains in the green screen in the background. He noticed that
and this
one, he was in front of a fireplace. Oh, really.
He needs to do just plain green screen so we can so the viewer
can put him in a different place. You know, though, if we
could just do our own little things like oh, where's Glenn
today? I want him to be in the Arctic. near you. Go. Hi,
everybody. I'm Glenn Greenwald. I've got more on the FISA court
from the Arctic here, but I'm hiding out. You know, it's not
just Snowden who needs to come home and face the music. Glenn
Greenwald. come to America, man. Come on. We need you here. We
need you in studio.
He's definitely well prepared for these things. And he's got
his guns out blazing. And it is aimed at the Democrats and
Obama. Oh, yeah.
We'll see what happens.
But we do want to get a hold of that document off.
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