It's the continuum. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, July 18 2013. Time for your gizmo nation media
assassination episode 531. This is no agenda, preparing for
quantum dawn to hear in the traverse heights hideout in
Austin Tejas, Capitol dome Star State in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry,
and I'm from Northern Silicon Valley where there's glass in
the driveway. I'm John C. Dvorak. Buzzkill.
The jingles are a little weird today. Why? I gotta restart this
thing might help it a little delayed in the cracking up you
know, it's what can you expect? It's like it's Apple stuff.
Is the system you've taken on the road though, right?
Yeah, that's pretty much it. Good. Yeah. Excellent. What do
you mean glass on the road? What happened? Did you someone back
tonight, I was putting out the recyclables and dropped the
ball, right. Oh,
oh, and blue. Is the car on the good side of the glass or the
bad side?
No, it's on the good side. Okay, so
you don't have to deal with it. You can wait for the deal. No,
you wait for the kids to come visit. You're like hey, my kid
go clean that up. Well, it's one it's one of the I'm sorry, I was
gonna say it's one of it's one of those shows where it's been
kind of difficult to do anything because here in in Gitmo nation
to get more nations of United States every it's all the same
on every single channel, everything even NPR, PBS,
everyone's doing the same thing. It's the same drama. And that
makes it very hard to find. What's really going on
underneath all the covers.
You mean like the the kind of obscure fact that the Supreme
Court passed a or did a case where they find that all drug
companies for all their drugs are not liable.
That wouldn't be a perfect example. And if you found this
I'm a little mad. Because I didn't hear about this. What's
going on?
It went right I was right during the Trayvon Martin. Yeah, on the
seventh of July, okay, do
you have anything? What do you got what you got for me, bro?
You know, I just wasn't timing it for the beginning of the
show. Oh, okay. Well, you want to get my mail. But ya know,
they some woman came in apparently with her skin fell
off.
As it can happen. Yes. And so she sued
the pharmacy, the pharmacy, the pharmaceutical company that sold
her this product, which I'll get the name of in a second. Hold on
a second.
So all of her skin fell off like a chameleon or
just like all of it did because I don't think you can survive
without your epiderm I don't understand why
this is not a National Enquirer or the globe. This is a perfect
story for them.
Yeah. Off kind of perfect. So she sued in one case against the
pharmacy or the pharmaceutical company, and then went to the
Supreme Court. It worked its way up and I think it was the day
either in the same session or just right after they did the
gay marriage. Gay marriage makes sense. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And so
let me just find one article here. These are really obscure
by the way this was not covered by the mainstream media at all.
Just not a good one to find the other one.
Okay, you're well prepared. Do you want to talk about something
else?
I am prepared now. I just for some reason I didn't bring I
didn't I thought these were in the printouts but I didn't look
at it through the printouts it's not there in the print.
You get them fresh off the rip them off the Telex throw that on
the conveyor belt under the under the prompter camera.
In a five four vote, the US Supreme Court struck down a
lower court's ruling and award an award for the victim of a
pharmaceutical drugs adverse reaction, according to the
victim in the state courts to drug caused a flesh eating side
effect that left the patient permanently disfigured over most
of her body. The adverse reaction was hidden by the drug
maker and later forced to be included in all warning labels.
But the highest court in the land rule that the victim had no
legal grounds to sue the corporation because its drugs
are exempt from lawsuits. And this is which Corporation mutual
pharmaceutical Karen did case is Karen
way, way way away. Wait a minute, wait a minute. It's one
thing to say that you know that you didn't read the label or you
ignored the side effects but this is the court saying that
the the they're actually exempt from from any type of damages if
something if your skin falls off or death occurs?
Let me read Karen Bartlett sued mutual pharma in the New
Hampshire state court Oregon is a drug company including no
warning about the possible side effect accordingly by the way
it's turns out that the site these warnings that you keep
just load up that's why there's so many of them. Because if you
are given that warning then you apparently cannot sue the
company for the actually the the actual side
effects. It's kind of like the like the iTunes User Agreement.
Yeah Karen Bartlett and mutual farmer in New Hampshire data,
state court argue the drug
doesn't say on the on the Insert includes flesh eating stuff.
Court agreed and ordered blah blah blah. Not now nine years
after the tragedy began, the US Supreme Court overturned the
state court's verdict and award justices cited the fact that all
generic drugs and their manufacture, manufacture some
80% of all drugs consumed, the United States are exempt from
the liability for side effects.
I thought I thought this was only vaccines that they had
exemption now which for everything, as long as you label
it,
the sounds is what it sounds like. Wow. Now, it was a no the
the kicker here when I think was my slightly misleading is that
these are all generic drugs, which of course everything
becomes generic, right? So it says all generic drugs and their
manufacture some 80% of all drugs consumed are exempt from
liability for side effects. Right, mislabeling or virtually
any other negative reactions caused by the drugs? I don't
think whoever wrote this mislabeling is not a negative
reaction. In this way, it's worded. In short, the court
ruled that the FDA has ultimate authority over pharmaceuticals
in the US and if the FDA says says a drug is safe, that takes
precedent over actual facts. Oh,
what it says that in the ruling, if they say it says that stupid
article. Okay. Well, this one, I need to look into this. I'm
going to read some of the cyber court
cases Karen Bartlett versus mutual pharmaceutical. Okay, now
may be the big cover up that I've been looking for during the
Trayvon Martin case.
There's a couple of things that have been going on. I feel like
I would like to step back into the narrative that is being held
not just in America, but Miss Mickey you know, she's my NPR
student. She listens to NPR all day in the car, where she she's
driving a lot and she's she listened and she gives me a
report. And she's really good at it. She She almost wants she
wants she's feeding back the talking points. You can almost
do the voices. I'm telling you. She's getting really scary at
this. And so working
for NPR, no no's
so there's there's a narrative going on right now. And it is
and it's kind of genius. It took me a while until last night we
were we had a conversation about you know, this is actually the
talking point. We need a conversation in this country
about race. Have you heard this over and over again? We need it
I'm sick of it a conversation in this car.
At least it opened the conversation. Oh, Snowden
started the conversation.
So let me just play a couple of clips of things that have just
been irking me as this conversation has been ongoing
and I'd like to point out there's a couple reasons why
this is front and center in the new certainly in America but it
does spread everywhere the BBC is doing and everyone's talking
about oh America big racist country. And it's the proof of
course as always is in the pudding. 5 million viewers on
the closing arguments for the cable news channels and This is
CNN and Fox combined. Over a million in the sweet spot John
18 the 18 Plus demo just beautiful numbers just beautiful
so everyone everyone's everyone's freaking out like oh
my god this is fantastic. It's a bonanza we can just do a drop
off the cliff after it's done no that's why this calm but we need
to have the conversation Yeah no kidding the advertisers love
this conversation because this thing was a bonanza. The funny
thing MSNBC still couldn't buy any ratings
course not unbelievable all you know there's all the people
already know that here's here's the in a nutshell. People know
that in MSNBC is good for one thing about Obama bought
boosterism if you're not looking for that, don't go to MSNBC if
you're not looking for a good old charge on how great Obama
is, why would you go to MSNBC?
So I always read the trades like variety and stuff. But here's
New York Times despite breaking late on a weekend evening, the
verdict in the murder trial of George Zimmerman, Zimmerman
attracted an audience of more than 10 million viewers to cable
news networks. A huge total for Saturday night now that's a huge
total for any night ever. Preliminary ratings show that
the hour from 10 to 11pm when the verdict came in Fox News and
CNN both attracted well over 3 million viewers each. Well MSNBC
trailed badly with only 1.3 of which 510,000 In the demo Man
Man You idiots I can't believe you can't even you can't even do
that right? You so need the crew Devorah consulting group so Fox
is the one that really crushed CNN had the best in the demos
and so this is obvious why this had to continue that there's
just no way. I mean, John, you know, this is how it works.
You're not going to give up this this obvious demands for
Zimmerman is not getting paid a nickel for all this work has to
do. This is
the best As part, it's free, it's free. You got no location
fees, the courts have put in the doing the camerawork,
everything's free, this could not make it any better. Now, I
do have to play some MSNBC clips, because they're really
try. They're really really trying I think that is
Paulson and most of the other thing that I want to talk to you
about today, and I've been getting this from, you know,
family loved ones, all the people in my life and through
social media. And I'll say, honestly, there's a lot of white
shame today.
Yeah. So this is the one of the so we had to have a
conversation, there's white,
white shade, Hispanic,
there's, but that doesn't matter. Do we need to have a
conversation? And there should be white shame and I have I have
a conclusion about this. And I'm going to get to it. I just have
to rile everybody up a little bit about this stuff. Here's
more MSNBC. I think it was the Morning Joe Show. One of the
analysts they have on
your three boys have hit the American trifecta of privilege.
Trey are white straight males. Yeah.
By the way, I know white straight males. I don't count.
That's the trifecta is UBF. If you're a white, straight male,
then you're good to go. Success all the way every what? I don't
know.
Yeah. So they have hit the trifecta of American privilege,
the trifecta
of American privilege, right?
This is the most racist station that all got Al Sharpton. What
more is there to say he's the one who started this whole
thing. Here's the irony of it. None of this would have even
happened. None of these ratings would have occurred if it wasn't
for Al Sharpton making a big stink over the fact that this
guy Zimmerman wasn't, you know, indicted right away, because
they just let him go, because apparently there's no evidence.
And of course, there wasn't according to the jury. And so So
Sharpton starts to hold fire and they can't cash in on it. I
hold on, hold on, hold on. You are so wrong. Because Zimmerman,
Zimmerman, you know, I think you have your your words wrong,
John, you're not watching enough. MSNBC. I'm sorry, you
didn't understand the verdict. What did you just say? Oh,
I'm sorry. I thought he was found not guilty. No, no.
He was found not guilty. Mr. Zimmerman was found not guilty
beyond a reasonable doubt. He was not found innocent. Okay.
Just so
sorry, I misspoke.
So there's a difference between found not guilty and you're
definitely not innocent. There's a huge difference there. I love
that one. But it even carried over into other conversations
about the immigration bill and this I love this one said
earlier how you have these districts where the you know,
House members are doing what their districts sent them to do,
which is not to have an immigration bill because
they're, you know, gerrymandered districts. majority white voters
older and for them immigrants are, you know, people in
hoodies. They classify them as we don't want them they're going
to lower the white people
in hoodies.
Latinos wear hoodies roaming around
people in hoodies. It doesn't matter because they're all
dangerous and having being the trifle you have the trifecta. I
don't have the trifecta. I'm not a white, straight male, white bi
curious man.
Where's the cash?
At the end of the rainbow, as always know
where it is, believe me
right now. Now this was a little ditty I picked up from Fox and I
found this to be a lot of people actually tweeted this and
emailed me about it. This is Greta Van Susteren. And I
watched Fox at all but I love I love me a good credit clip
because her mouth is weird. It's like get a lot of work done yet.
She can't move her mouth. Really? It's kind of or Yeah, it
got some strangely sexy.
I can't I don't know. Okay. She's on the air.
I can't explain it. Just, if we had a programming meeting, I
would vote I'd say yeah, it's strangely sexy. Keep her in
that. But if it was like her Diane Sawyer, there's no
contest. Okay, so he or she has the, the Trayvon Martin family
attorney, and the family attorney. So, of course, she was
not really in the trial. She is just the attorney for the
family. And you think that she's a lawyer, but she has a
secondary mission, which I found to be interesting in the grand
scope of all of
that is the standing law. I do not believe that Trayvon got
equal justice in this instance,
is specifically how, tell me the evidence. You can't make the
evidence that the jury didn't hear
the evidence that the jury didn't hear, right. I don't
think that they properly considered the evidence if they
had listened to the evidence. And if they had followed the
law, then George Zimmerman would have been convicted of murder.
Well, I mean, he got out of the car he got out of there.
So far, so good now now. So she's a lawyer, but she may be
something else that we haven't quite figured out yet. You're a
lawyer.
Right? Yes. And the whole point of the jury is that we assigned
them job to weigh the facts. We draft them, we make them sit
there a lot of times they don't want to be there. We then
present the evidence and the judge Since says, Here's the
evidence, here's the law instruction of the law, and it's
your duty. It's not mine. It's not yours. It's not anybody
else's. But it's the juries duty to weigh them. And while all of
a sudden suddenly afterwards they say they can't do their
job.
I have a greater duty beyond being an attorney. And that's to
be a social engineer and doesn't get it right.
She's She, her duty used to be a social engineer. Maybe that's
why she was hired. What she says, I have a greater duty to
be a social engineer
that but it's just like, Yeah,
well, this is I'm telling you, it's just crazy. Now there were
some good, and what
is the Trayvon Martin's family have an attorney for? Yeah, to
be social engineering? I don't know. I mean, I don't have a VAR
family doesn't have an attorney. I wish I could. What is it? Are
they rich blacks? I
don't know. Now, I'm gonna wind this up in a minute. But this
was not this. I really, really, really like this is the the
Trayvon friend who testified was her name Jarnail. I think her
name was
right. And she has, yeah, we have a family theory about
her. Well, she's on the Piers Morgan program. And I'd love to
have seen that. Oh, it was it was fantastic. And, and I like
her. I really, really like her. I don't I think she has, I'm not
quite sure why they put her on the stand. But I'm pretty sure
that she's speaking from her heart. And she so here's Pierce,
and he has a whole audience that was Oh, yes. White shame. Oh,
yes. This is horrible. Who is Oh, God. Oh, Standard Oil. Rob,
we have to have a conversation we had we're talking about this.
Thank you, Britt. And the here comes the the she's going to
help us quantify something which I've been waiting for a black
person to say. So that I can now point to it when I use this
word.
Match. I'm a teenager.
Was there anything you wished you'd said, Rachel, when you
finish and you went home, and he saw the reaction, and everyone
giving you a hard time, it's almost anything you wish you'd
said when you remember Nick? Why? People
the hallway I say is a racist word. lies around to talk to
1000s That was not they change it around. I think
this is I love this. Thank you for finally putting it on
mainstream television that the word nigger is no longer racist.
It started 10 years ago, it's used in common language
Spani and GG a
nigga, what does that mean to you? That that way of spending
it what does that
listen to peers is moron an idiot? What does that mean?
Does it hurt your feelings mean to you?
That means a male
a male Exactly. A black man, a black man? Doesn't mean a black
male. No,
any kind of male
or female. Thank you black or white?
Any kind of Chinese gonna say? Yes, Chinese. Thank you my Chino
Nagle.
That's my Chino, nigga. Thank you. Thank you, Rachel, thank
you for finally putting that straight. It's about time I
condemned the woman now.
They could say
that. I'm rappers and everything, use it in the music.
And that's what we mean. Yes.
But maker or Nikkor advise you not to be by black people,
because they're not gonna have a racist word.
But the two different words have different meanings in your
community. Know in a generation.
He's such a dick. He's my favorite. Now, as it turns out,
the couple things that I get out of this one, I would not advise
people to use either term if they're white, and that would be
aimed at you, please. Because see, see, this is what the
problem will be. But why do you think take it upon yourself?
Yes, everywhere. Use the word constantly when we check into
the airport tomorrow open. Yeah, you should do that to the TSA.
Please let me go. I can't raise my hands. I put my arm on my
shoulders.
Please. You have to keep you don't. What is wrong with that?
It will for one thing and requires enunciation to get it
straight, I'm good. There's always a problem with not black
or white. Everybody has a problem enunciating. So that's a
problem number one. And number two, it's a bowl Krishna is not
a gatekeeper of anything you need. She's Emily Post. She says
it's okay.
She is Emily.
This woman she's a teenager and you're saying oh great. Now I
can use
it. Yeah, I want a t shirt of her face. And underneath a nigga
Please That's what I want.
Okay. Oh, it will be somebody in the audience will make that for
you and you have to wear it around text.
No. problem no problem. I'll even go I'll go outside of
Austin even. I'm not afraid of it word probably work. Can I
tell you something funny when I don't know if I mentioned this
to you, it Mickey first lived in Los Angeles around 2002 2003, I
think. And she was acting and she was there by herself for a
couple years. And this was around the time of the OJ trial.
And so she came in fresh kind of off the boat, you know, she
didn't, she's still a girl from Holland. And she heard everyone
talking about the N word. And it's funny how, you know, people
just don't understand certain pieces of the vocabulary what
people are talking about. And for months, she thought people
were talking about Nicole Simpson Brown. That the N word
you couldn't say Nicole can never hurt. She had never heard
of a country that replaces words with first letter word, like the
R word. And the C word and the S word and the T words. Yes,
word
shit. Ah, yeah. Well,
he says that Yes. Oh, come
on, John. I'm sure a lot of your neighbors they're in Berkeley
would be like, Oh, my son said the S word. Please, please
attend. So but that's not where I want to go to what I want to
say is here's what's happening. So first of all, it's a ratings
bonanza. This is actually the sweet spot for the military
legal political complex. I'm in the media legal political
complex and media of course, we know this the huge ratings big
money. The league legally for lawyers. This is fantastic.
Everyone's a consultant on the shows everyone gets brought in
everyone's you know, these lawyers are making a grand an
hour. This is fantastic. And politically, are you kidding me?
You can use this all kinds of ways. So this is a beautiful
this is the true trifecta of American success is this kind of
story for those three individual groups? Now, here's why it's
really taking place and why I believe the Obama administration
in its entirety has been propagating as we have Eric
Holder talking crap, everyone's talking shit. Everyone's talking
Yes, word, everybody. And it is to distract you. Okay? And I'm
gonna it's very simple. And when you when you when you look at
it, the so it's much more easy to say, well, when you have a
conversation, and it's black against white, and it's white
against Chicano, and it's Latino, and it's Chinese, and
it's everybody all against each other. When really, we are
tribal, right? We hang out with our tribes, you know, we look at
the other trolley, Hey, man, you know, we got respect, we don't
have respect, whatever it is, it's just how it works. It's
everywhere. It's the same everywhere in every single
country. That's just how the world works. There is no like
conspiracy of white people to go, you know, put the black man
down. I'm just not buying that crap. What I am seeing is that
as of the numbers today, 101 million people in America are on
food stamps. So this is not black, white, this is poor. It's
like you need to be looking at the other guy gonna He's gonna
kill me, oh, he hates me. And you're all forgetting that
you're actually poor. You're in a in an economy, which is broke.
And your leaders are like, Oh, yes, we have to have a
conversation about black and white. Instead of the real
conversation, which is nigga please, we're broke. And then
they bring out all these stories like what at least you're not a
kid in India,
at least 23 children under the age of 12 have died after eating
a contaminated free school meal.
I mean, at least we're not there. We got food stamps yet.
And that's why this is that's why this conversation is taking
place. Please pay no attention to the fact that we're broke.
Down broke, you're broke. Everyone's broke 100 and 1
million people on food stamps. John. Is that unbelievable?
Is that right? I don't think so.
It's the US Department of Agriculture right here. Us the
US Department of Agriculture. I'm gonna bring it up right here
reported that 101 million Americans are on the
Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program snap. And it
cost annual $114 billion as of 2012. Yes, this is all part of
the Ag bill. It's got to be less because they're cutting it out.
It's like a starve. Leisha at least you're not dying like
Indian kids with free school lunches. So yeah, that's what
this is about. That's why they love it. Are you kidding? And
this is not to it by the way it's kind of it's even better
like oh, you know we if we have riots or anything going on?
Well, you know what the black on white issue the white on white,
the black on black? The yellow on red. It's not about poverty.
It's not about that we're failing you as leadership. No,
it's not about that. That's that's what's going down here.
I'm not I'm not gonna argue with
101 million people on food stamps. Are you kidding me?
That's more people than who have a job.
Well, duh, I do have food stamps.
But we have 300. And what 40 million people in America? Yeah,
it
seems like a high number should it's too high to have 1/3 of the
public needing food stamp assistance. Yes. A third of the
public being food stamp assistance includes little kids
I have here to get through, they don't starve to death. And
meanwhile, there are homeless out there that don't get these
food stamps and they are starving to death. And that's
another large group of folks.
This is the June 2013 audit report. The USDA I have it's a
PDF I'll put it in the show notes. And it's in the numbers
right here. And it's disturbing
it's disturbing number yes. And
but you know, where is the headline on this? Where of
where? Where's the headline about hey, you know, while
you're all fighting around about who's eaten and by the way,
we're eating Skittles. That's even worse. You know, who had
the best response to this? No, I'm done but at the best
response are our man there's only one guy who can give it to
you straight when it comes to black issues in America. Who was
that?
A Pastor Manning?
Have you heard him know lives on
the 12th floor during the Martin Luther King Jr. Houses? It's 10
o'clock at night you get up out of your your bed. It's raining
at night, over seven o'clock at night. You go park your car you
get on the elevator there. He's so he's preaching in church this
time in the Martin Luther King Jr. Houses and as a pastor going
to pray with one of your members. And a 17 year old boy
gets on the elevator with a hotel. Yes, you want him on an
elevated night? Just you and him. What do you think? Oh, this
must be a prophet of the Lord. It's got to be one of the nicest
little boys in the community. He's got a hoodie on. Do you
think when you see that tell me what do you say? Do you begin to
protect yourself? Do you think you need to be concerned hasn't
been proven over and over again that these hoodie boys Rob rate
murder and main Are you afraid of him? Though you don't know
who he is? You have suspicions because of that. And because of
the color of his skin? No 10 of what's going to happen to you on
that elevator.
And you know it's true
you know, it's true. So why do you blame george Zimmerman why
because you're black that's why you're not save you don't know
nothing about Jesus and your father Hey so all they had was
some skills and a bottle of water mental Arizona juice
now this is he's about to deconstruct this whole thing in
one go which I haven't heard anyone come up with this angle.
You know when you smoke pot you get the munchies
see old and old people smoke pockets. Uh, yeah. And your
dinner I was catching your eye so I'm gonna lay in wait. I'm
gonna get them now. Because all the possible who gonna say yeah,
and anybody who say yeah, to the munches, and your pot smoker
said when you get when you smoke pot you got you got to some
level, I get some munchies, I get some skittles I get
something to drink, because I got too much. I've been smoking
too much. Yes. On my way back. I got to munches. Now the other
thing happened when you smoke pot you get paranoid.
Some somebody's following me. Pa makes you paranoid. So you start
acting in suspicious way. But see, you will never admit that
because you're black and white. no truth in a no Jesus in you,
Jesus and you condemning george Zimmerman.
Well, so that's the whole the whole sermon is in the show
notes.
It's cute. Oh, cool. Okay, so I have to bring this in, because I
just got the biggest kick out of it. So I'm on my blog on from
our last show, somebody posted this thing. And I just want to
point out to people that we really are a political on this
show. Oh, absolutely. And so we I so somebody points out to this
article by Andrea shaking, an old white lady writing in the
World Net Daily. Oh, that's a right wing operation right.
About how Skittles and she goes on about this. She said
apparently somebody did this some some group which i By the
way tried to track in this group down I found that just a bunch
of website hosting company. I don't know what she's talking
about. She says among its reports, Trayvon Martin's drug
use explaining how the Skittles in Arizona watermelon fruit
juice cocktail he carried that night or ingredients set when
mixed with dextromethorphan DSM, cough syrup create lien a
concocted high, which can cause psychosis and aggression over
the longer term according to the autopsy report, Martin's liver
showed damage consistent with DSM abuse of course somebody
sends me this and I say, Well, you know, this doesn't sound
like yeah, I've never heard of this it seems like like you
know, it would be in the literature
de XM I've never heard of this either.
It's actually as usually called DX actually by the druggie
security x. So they have so I looked it up and here's it's and
lien is there, it's in the urban dictionary lien and I'll tell
you what it is and she actually links to this which I think is
weird because here's what Lean is a great lean a popular drink
originated in Houston, Texas require the following an
original formula for the original for promethazine with
codeine. Okay, now that'll knock you on your ass or whatever
Yeah, that's essentially the Vikatan
Yeah, I think it might be well it's no this is okay well
there's the syrup original sprite soda mixing ingredients
are different flavors of sprite are now available and Jolly
Rancher flavor additive. So we have no skills zero we have no
watermelon and we have no you know, no. DX, the
dextromethorphan hydrobromide that's not none of this is in
this lean, but that's what she goes on with Okay, well that's
just a total bull crap Yeah, so I found the the actual the
complete and final autopsy report dug it up print it out
it's available you can find it deliver showed no any damage
because
he's just making this up scrap. Yeah.
So they so they who these guys are part of the Cabal, then
that's bullcrap. It's total bull crap. I mean, it's complete bull
crap. And so he's trying to rewrite history. But why does
this get published in the first place? And then why do people
link to it and send it to me? Oh, please? Well, I'm just
saying, yeah. And send it to me without checking one detail. We
don't need this kind of input on this show. Yes.
And while you're at that, we have to reiterate. When you send
us an email, we take it seriously. And if you send us
bullcrap that just took away five or 10 minutes of my time, I
get angry, and then you go into spam from then on. It's really
annoying. It really really is. You have to think what you're
sending us we take your shit sit your S word seriously.
And for one thing, this particular language was put into
on the blog and
you remove it from the blog. Did you remove that? Did you nuke
it?
I should have not you mentioned in ours, just why now I wanted
to leave it there so people can check to see who did it. But why
doesn't the person themselves instead of just linking to
something like this?
Because that would be like someone else's job and a couple
of weeks? Because this is not what we're taught. We're taught
to lean back and let the telescreen tell us what it is.
And it's gotten worse. It's shifted that it now lets us let
those guys do it. Let those guys do it. Like Kareem Devorah do
it.
We shouldn't have to do it.
Yeah, well, we do. And guess what? We didn't even do that
well in donations for doing this like Hello. Hello, fiscal cliff.
Back again, it the summer has started officially. So there you
go. That's nice. Ya know that it's disturbing. I agree. It's
very disturbing when this happens.
Yeah, and it happens a lot.
Yeah. Why? Yes, Mortimer. It does.
So let's see. We should probably I
think we have two or three people to thank right for it.
Well, before we do anything, let me just say in the morning to
you, John C. Dvorak.
Oh, well in the morning Oh, well, in the morning to you Adam
curry and in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground
subs in the water feet in the air and all the dames night out
there. Yes. And
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what we get today.
You're coaching them? That's good. Yes. So we have. It's not
like we're paying them. We only have anybody that actually came
in at an executive producer. We do have last week's executive
producer Edward Jacobs complaining Oh, no, that we had.
He doesn't he's not on the executive. But he I don't know
why he shouldn't be on the spreadsheet. But he's
complaining that week said he was in Providence, Rhode Island,
not last week, but sometime before that, when he's in
Providence, North Carolina. And he's
he wanted he demanded a make good. Well, you know, credits
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it If we set it incorrectly We apologize and we still thank him
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4531 Our executive producer becomes James Richard F with
$233.32. He
got in on a good level. That's good.
Yeah, because he's the highest on the list of executive,
regular Associate Executive producers. Hi, all here's my
value for value have been kind of strapped since I have had the
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to get her a green card. Hello, Adam. We have our interview with
the wonderful UC USCIS us USCIS. Next month. I'm not a celebrity
a celebrity. So I don't know if my interview will go as smoothly
as Adam and Miss Mickey was hoping to get some karma for the
interview. So
I'll give you some karma and I have a tip for you. cleavage.
You've got Carmen works every time. It Mickey
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don't know
for sure celebrities. We don't have to do that.
Ken O'Rourke, two underdogs from Frostburg, Maryland. I'm just
giving value for value for the best podcast in the universe.
And here's our old buddy Joan daata Frey
named Joni Dame Joanie team,
Joanie 200 bucks, and she says he has a little long note which
will read Second Dame hood and it's my birthday on Saturday. So
we do a birthday today, I guess.
No, we have a birthday. I think we have. Let me just think
she's on the list. On the list. Yeah, I would like to bestow
this damn hood on my 12 year old son Max, which will obviously
convert to a knighthood. He and I will eventually take over the
state of West Virginia. Maybe when I play the ceremonial for
him on the podcast, he'll start listening to the show. He's
totally on board with the whole crackpot conspiracy stuff. So
here's, there's hope. He also has a great sense of humor, so
he'll quote unquote get it if you have any rings left laying
around. We do we'd love to have one otherwise a pin would just
be fine. We're still doing rings. I would give him my ring
but he's already too big for it. Perhaps a little karma to all
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Oh, this is this is indeed the message you need to give your
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Absolutely. Karma Damn, join us got karma and we will be in 90.
Sir Max later on in the show. Very exciting.
Cool. Larry Lee $200 will be our last Associate Executive
producer and a group of four Marble Falls Texas, Dr. street
from you. Adam mentioned low power FM recently, I wonder if
Adam would be interested in passing on information to the
knights and other listeners during the show concerning the
low power FM window for applications on the horizon for
October 2013. The show needs a network of LPFM affiliates
nationwide to broadcast in syndication. This is LGBT
LPFM everybody how you doing now? This is not going to
happen? We so Larry, sir Larry sent me a very long, very long
note about this. And he looked in everything. It's you need
surveys done. It'll cost you at a minimum of $5,000 a minimum.
And then that's just getting the paperwork and getting legal. And
then you can broadcast and like a seven mile radius. If you're
lucky. And then you need you need your site. You need an
antenna and your broadcast equipment. It'll cost you
$50,000 This is a scam. And this whole thing is set up to make
you fail it really is it like Yeah, yeah, no, yeah. It's
community radio. Sure. We don't want the mainstream media to
have all the fun. No, you can have it to please, please. It's
such a farce. Well, thank you, Larry for looking at it. It's a
total farce. It's to me that is so lame. It really is incredibly
lame. And that's it when they
get nobody that no takers, they'll have the big
congressional hearing on this. And maybe Larry can go up and
speak before Congress.
Because it's not gonna
happen. I'm just saying Not gonna happen. It could it
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high biscuits, no crash forever. I have a couple of PR mentions
here, John. A two to be quite exact. First of all, from Karen
Hi, Adam and John since I'm off my school bus driver job for the
summer. Remember Karen she's She drives the bus. She's I think
we've done her in Adams email segment before. Since I'm one
For the summer I've been taking MMA classes three nights a week.
MMA I guess is that the fighting? Yes, yeah, multiple
martial arts or something like that. Something like that. I
decided to get no agenda show.com printed on the ass of
my shorts. So I'll be kicking people in the mouth both
literally and figuratively. Or was it punching people in the
mouth? No worries. I got both covered. And would you
look@mma.na shownotes.com John just for the normally do
curry.com It's an MMA Mike Mike alpha dot N A shownotes.com
Karen was kind of let me post the picture. Which I wanted to
share with you and with our audience
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now? Thanks. Browse. mma.na shownotes.com Yeah, yeah,
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is this a Dropbox?
Oh, you're right. You're right. You're right. I'm sorry. Hold on
a second. Let me fix that. Damn. I have that happen. Oh, that's
my that's what you should have said it's a Dropbox 404 Hold on.
Where is it? Man I'm sorry. That's totally my mistake. Well,
I'm gonna have to set that up later then. But I wanted to get
you want to get your response
I'd love to get your give me a response but just open box.
No, I suck. Let me let me find all right. Well, while I'm
looking for that I don't know what happened there. We have our
producer Martin Peters you can you should go to this site while
I'm fixing the MMA. He said you know Adam, I heard you guys
talking about this you know we have it really is unclear if if
your for most of our producers if you're involved in a riot or
not. And he said he has registered for us and set up a
website which I think just take a look at Riot check.com
Oh, right checkbox.
It's got checkboxes. Have a look and tell me what you think. I
think personally, I think it's pretty darn spiffy right
now in a violent disturbance of of the peace by a crowd. When is
your riot really a riot? Use the no agenda show checklist. Be
prepared when the riots come learn from history. And here's
the check. More than one cop was wounded. Check. Tear gas was
used and you should change that to one s not to on the tear gas
please. Tear gas was used check. Handwritten signs check. At
least one police car was turned over? Oh, it has to be well, I
mean, I'm gonna leave that one off just to see the right was
not scheduled. Check. Which by the way, most of these rides
seem to be scheduled. And we are not celebrating which would be
you know, just a celebratory thing as I'll check. This
clearly 83% This clearly was a riot. So it's actually Oh, they
actually do some math.
Yeah. How good is that? Huh?
I got no costume wounded, but tear gas was used to try that.
Handwritten signs. Let's see no signs. There's no signs, but a
car was turned over for sure. The right was not scheduled and
they're not celebrating. Check. Check that 67 It was clearly a
riot. Okay, so pretty much. Okay. No cops, no tear gas.
Handwritten signs. note card turned over. The right was not
scheduled.
I think we can expand. I think we need more checkboxes. But I
think it's a damn good start. And you can now go to
mma.na shownotes.com
This one's came at 33% This seems to be an icon change or
convention. This is great, isn't it? Yeah. Good. Material is
good. Your big checklist? Sounds good.
Right? Thank you very much your mileage good. Good job. Little
spell check. But that's what he's done. So I'm sure that's
why it's happened. Take a look@mma.na shownotes.com so we
can move on.
Yes, please. Sorry.
That was not supposed to happen. Just sometimes things happen.
And I didn't mean for that to go that way.
I'm gonna get the job. Oh, yeah. Uh huh. Right. That's, that's a
that's a good look. And figure a nice nice job on the
in what in many aspects?
Yes. Nice. But with a good, good solid, you know, at the way then
the king
can imagine that being a bus driver can imagine that being
your bus driver. Oh, okay. I can't wait to go to school. Yay.
All right. Well, you should take that button go out there and
propagate our formula, which is precisely this. Our formula is
this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth
That's a good button. I like to photography too. It's kind of
like that whole like, yeah, it's very Instagram, your eyes and
Instagram thing is every good little art for the show. Well,
that's why I wanted to get it out there because I thought it
would be. I want to mention the
need for the next newsletter. So people are like, everyone's will
feel that his newsletter stinks.
With that exact voice actually.
Pretty close. Yeah. I am going to have a good collection. This
this is a few of these around the neck of somebody who has a
connection. Actually, one of our Chinese producers in Manchuria
has a connection with a British Air pilot who's retired, who
apparently got into the scene of the wreck and Asiana and took
all kinds of pictures like inside the band. Okay,
hold on a second stop. This is a meme. I've received this from
multiple people. And they all say I got this from my buddy.
He's a pilot. He's not flying anymore. I got this from like,
10 different people.
And there's always a button. It's not flying. Yeah.
Well, no, no, no, no, the pictures are being circulated.
But this is one of those
bases where the pictures is bogus. All I'm
identifying is that this is not coming from this person. This is
not like some secret, like, Oh, I got pictures. Now everyone has
to figure out who's doing the pictures. Well, I wasn't going
to bring this up. Okay. But I did put it in the show notes.
There is quite a lot of work being done on the pictures as a
problem, because the pictures we're seeing are not always of
the same aircraft. And this is not also not always of the same
spot at SFO. Because there's pictures of people walking in
three feet high grass that is no longer there. There's pictures
of the side of the plane that has yellow stripes. And then
this picture
there's no three feet high grass and SFO ever. Thank you. Yeah,
but there
are pictures. Mainstream Media pictures of, you know, like the
guy on the cell phone. You know, the lady taking a picture and
they're in the grass and it's that plane, but then you see the
shoots the slides, and the slides don't have the yellow
marking underneath the door. There's a lot of things really,
really, really off with this.
Okay, well, then I won't put these pictures in the next
newsletter. No, because you don't know what to offer and
people will still keep bailing out.
I'm just, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And these pictures are right.
And I got them to like, I got it from our Chinese producer but
then from someone else like hey, you know, in case you haven't
seen them, my buddy works at the ambulance like, right? This is
one of those like Richard Gere came into the hospital the other
night,
he has to be demoted.
Yeah, unfortunately. But maybe he got it from his buddy but his
buddy then is full of crap.
Somebody's full of crap.
This is almost like remember the the see the picture
of the high grass though? Maybe we should take it
there's a I don't know if it's in that series. But there's a
there's a number I put links to some YouTube YouTube videos. And
I am not interested in I can't find the reason why other than
you know, this could be a Boeing versus
totally a Boeing versus Airbus. Well, we
haven't there's no we're not saying it's a mechanical failure
yet.
I think we have to we should include the pictures anyway.
Because there's a couple of things if his Boeing versus
Airbus, which I liked that thesis,
well, let me say this are uncomfortable. But
I do know that Boeing was basically saved a couple months
ago by Korean airlines placing a an 11 aircraft order for seven,
seven sevens. Now, this, of course, was not Korean Airlines,
but they have not yet pointed to any real mechanical failure on
the craft. If that comes up. If they say Oh, hold on a second,
the mechanical failure then I'm all in that this was it could
even It could even be a hoax. I don't know. You know, I don't
know anyone who was there.
You know, one guy.
Yeah, we have one. No, no, no, no, he was not
there. No, he was on he was on the road blocking people from
going in. Yes. And
he said that there were really weird people in unmarked black
cars flashing badges who were driving you know, that he had to
wait through.
Yeah, I'm sure that if you have a good looking badge, you could
probably get through it.
But so my point is he didn't see it either. He didn't see it. We
all saw something on television exclusive to CNN. It's you know,
I don't want to get into this the second half almost. But I
was like, Okay, I'm all in this is you know, this is just an
unfortunate accident. These things happen. And now I'm
seeing some of the photographs, the photos I'm like, wow, this
is weed and also the the tail number of this thing, which I
think is h k 7742. It's like one number reversed of the The the
Korean airlines that was shot down remember we shot the the
Korean airliner down right? It's like one number reverse if you
look at the if you look at this aircraft on flight radar
tracking, which is now it's not really like an official FAA
system. The last time it flew was July 4, fourth sixth but not
on the seventh.
Okay, well, I've been taken in by a hoax major so maybe well or
not. Now I don't get what you said about saving Boeing. No, I
said wing is do is kicking but
really, that's not the numbers I'm seeing. Really. I did it. I
did a search. And I found multiple articles that said
Boeing was basically in the crapper because they had no new
orders until Korean airlines ordered 11 new triple sevens in
February. And they had a real problem and they have that but
we're talking about the Dreamliner has been crap. You
know, everything's on delay. The thing is late. Well, how can
Boeing be doing great?
I don't know. It's over 100 Bob Okay.
All right, because that's, that's different.
They're not cashflow negative. No,
I don't I didn't even want to bring this up at all.
Okay, well, you did.
You brought it up.
No, you did. You said they save Boeing.
You brought up the pictures. Who cares? Who cares? that
important?
Everything's important. Just kidding me. Nothing you say it
can be I have lost my confidence in the Mongolian fiduciary.
That's very critical.
No, I'm with you. I
was also the good stuff. But now he throws a bunch of crap at me
a hoax.
I was also disappointed. Yeah, well, I'm sure I'm sure. I'm
sure he got it from his former you know, the messenger. You
come on, John. You read it was like my former buddy who doesn't
fly anymore? Like, okay.
All right. Here we go. So let's get into some real meat here.
Please. I need some so we're bringing in your buddy one of
your friends when you're one of the people that you really
admire Susan powers.
Whoa, hold on a sec. What are you talking about? Why are you
doing this?
To like a big fan of hers? No. I Susan Rice you hate I?
She's married to Cass Sunstein. This woman could not be worse.
And not only that, but he sits right behind her during her
hearing. Ah, he's back there. He's right. She's sitting there
answering your question. By the way. She looks like an old
hippie. She looks a little bit like Amy Goodman.
And she is now being certified for United Nations Ambassador
ambassador. Yes, exactly.
Now, now you have a bunch of clips from her. And yeah, I've
got a plan because they're hilarious because I think she
holds a record sheet. I didn't realize it until I listened to
her testimony that she's a Hummer.
Hey, now, we haven't we haven't had a good Hummer in a while.
I'm excited.
But she's kind of a fast talking Hummer. And her main thing is to
use um, um, ah, a lot. I've got a couple of clips where I think
she broke a record. But let me give you the model that she
whenever anyone asked her a question, she always starts it
the same way. I could have made 10 of these clips, it'd be
identical. This is her when she starts answering your questions.
She starts with them. And then she says I'm on a couple more
times. And then she goes on to the question saying Oh, and I'm
throughout but here's listen to classic powers. pattern is the
pattern.
Thank you, Senator so much for raising that issue. I would say
okay, so she got three items in a row there starts with them.
says
I love me a good Hummer story. John, thank you for bringing
this to the table.
I'm very appreciative thing.
By the way, women women pay attention to yourself. Okay. You
have no idea you may be one of these two. And it's not pretty.
And I'm so I'm going to play a by the way McCain is I didn't
realize is an M person. He's also a Hummer. Believe it or
not.
Wow. Yeah. McCain powers clip. Is that what we're doing here?
No, no, that one and we're going to skip for now was the other
part. You tease me question two powers is a question. So the
logical question somebody asks is a long winded senatorial
question. And then you're gonna have powers gives the answer,
but let's start with the question two powers to
talk visit on issues. When it talks about the US Arms Trade
Treaty, when Secretary Kerry came upon came before this
committee in January of this year, I asked him during his
confirmation process if he would support any treaty that allows
the United Nations to establish and maintain a gun registry on
law abiding us gun owners. He stated in writing that we will
not support a treaty that impacts domestic arms transfers
or creates a un gun registry. I have the that UN arms treaty.
Trade Treaty here in article 12 is called record keeping. It
encourages countries to maintain records on the importation of
conventional arms, including small arms, it's specifically
required So states maintain records on the the quantity, the
value, the model, the type and the end user there. These
records it says must be maintained for a minimum of 10
years. Article 13, quote, titled reporting that requires
signatory states to issue annual reports to the UN on all imports
and exports. So the question I have is, do you believe that
this framework could lead to a UN gun registry?
Now, while we hadn't listened to that?
I wanted to listen to that, because that's what we've been
talking about on this show. Yes. For I don't know, a couple of
years and I've never actually heard anybody outlined it so
well in Congress and what a piece of crap it is. So but do
you think she'd be like anti gun and all that she she kind of
skirted the issue, but in the process, I believe she sets the
record. And she's running at about if I'm guessing a 14 to 16
Arms per minute.
Wait a minute, is this is Is this another divorce thing we
can get in Wikipedia,
this clip in which is one arm every four seconds minimum? It's
so and so we're gonna listen to her as her answer to this
question with the bell. And this is
powers gives answers. Yes, and you think you're excused at a
one of 14 arms per minute, which is the Dvorak Hummer ratio.
Again, this should be in the book of knowledge.
Thank you, Senator. Oh, hello, let me start just by saying
again, that we in this administration, and certainly I,
if I had the privilege of going to New York would never do
anything that would infringe on US sovereignty, or that would
interfere in any way with American law. Second Amendment
rights are paramount. American law is paramount. The
constitution is paramount.
That's right. It's paramount and MGM and Sony, it's all that's
all the Constitution is,
again, in terms of what the UN's designs are, in taking that
treaty forward. I'm not myself familiar with those. I think
what's important is that Secretary Kerry has given you
the assurance that nothing the administration put forward with
regard to that treaty would ever contemplate a gun registry in
this country are our participation in the gun
registry. So I think that's the key point is irrespective of the
provisions that you have pointed to,
how many times did she have in that because it was only 55
seconds? I think she's over. I think she's 16 ups.
She was at 12 arms in 50 seconds. Okay, so So yeah, so
in 60 seconds, she'd be around 14 and a half 14.7 ups.
So she's up there. She's always long she got she will go five
seconds without saying she nails about three. Yeah, she does a
pretty good
one. She has a top one. She has a talking point but she has to
arm in between the talking points. Um, yeah.
Anyway, oh, that was it here. The last one. Was it? Was it
McCain and powers and I'll play I'll also pound
probably cane foundry. All right. This will be a double
pounder.
Senator Lindsey Graham. Help of our senior our chairman and
ranking members.
Doesn't doesn't count.
mesmerized by this.
I think an AW is half an M. It's
past a couple of authorizations concerning Ran is now authored
with a large number of us a resolution that would by the
Senate or Congress that would authorize the use of force on
Iran if Iranian nuclear progress reached a point that the
President has described as unacceptable. What do you think
about that?
Well, sir, there's somebody aspiring to go back into the
executive branch may not surprise you that I would want
to to ensure that the President had the flexibility that he
needed to make a judgment that he thought best on behalf of
people gives him It authorizes us for she doesn't want a
wage and what a waste What a waste of space these people are.
These guys this guy McCain is
he's hold on hold on hold on. That's all he says. Right?
That's what he's good at. That's what he likes. That's what he
wants. Yes. Am I have to pull the I didn't pull the battery
out of my phone. It's it's bleeping again. Damn. Oh, hold
on a second. Oh, no, John, hold on. Please stop. We've switched
over to the BBC breaking,
breaking breaking mode and
the former CIA intelligence contractor who's currently held
her share image of airport north of Moscow. According to
Interfax, the Russian agency, Snowden may soon leave the
airport. It doesn't say to when we're abroad or within Russia.
That's quoting his Russian lawyer who's been assisting his
asylum. Breaking At the moment,
right breaking news from the BBC. Snowden is going to leave
breaking news. They believe this. And do we just sit there
and go wow, that's that's really important. That is breaking
news. I'm glad I was watching the baby. Like what crew
cares? Well, we do. The leaves were devastated to make that
he's going to live we know he's going to leave the airport. We
do not going to die. As an old man in the airport. We do
have good news, John. Finally, after after our incessant
bitching and moaning Glenn Greenwald is going to write a
book on surveillance. Okay, that means the books been written for
him. Well, here's what's interesting, as I have time to
write his column as I'm reading the blurb since the articles
detailing Mr. Snowden leaks first appeared in early June,
several books about National Security Agency surveillance
have been snapped up by publishers. The Penguin Press
acquired a book on the rise of surveillance in the rise of the
surveillance industrial state by Barton Gellman. We remember
Barton as the reporter who was brought in as a consultant for
the Washington Post to release the Snowden information. This is
so such a setup. It's so obvious and he already had his book
done.
Well, he needed to boost it. Yeah. And he looked at the
market there's a bunch of these books already. Yes, there's a
whole bunch of devices this this market stinks. What am I going
to lose my button whatever get another book we push this
marketing to Jack this thing up a little bit guy and I admire a
guy like that. This is Yeah, who knows marketing? Absolutely. For
him good for Barton. I'm now that
he's on the Barton's on the Ailis. All right, by the way,
talking about vested interests you want to see here versus
telling me that there's not a vested interest in with what
this guy has to say just one more patents. I don't want to
play the whole clip, just play the question that Rand Paul asks
power, just play that clip. Senator Paul,
Congratulations on your nomination. And thanks for
coming today. Was the recent military takeover in Egypt a
coup?
Thank you, Senator. That's all he's
done. That's all he cares about whoever comes
up. On any panel, he asked them that question. He just wants the
answer so that he can then go and have a big Sledgehammer over
a billion and a half dollars. That's all that it's about. I
have no respect for him in that manner. He's playing the
politics as usual. Everyone's playing it.
I keep hearing the way he talks. He's got this weird lit lilt. I
would love to get it down because it's so funny, very
listen to his speech patterns hard
to do. Let's go back to Glenn. Glenn. Now, let us review. We
review that Snowden has the he is himself not released
anything. He gave whatever he gave to Glenn and Barton to
Greenwald and Barton GNB. And these are the guys that have
been releasing it. Along with the Guardians. It's all
mainstream. It's the same WikiLeaks formula, and that
these publications went to the White House and the Director of
National Intelligence and the NSA and the CIA, and so does any
problem. You see any problem with us releasing this
information and those departments had no knots. Okay.
Right.
We have documented this with the editors themselves telling us
this we had
to Charlie Rose's great surprise, with no follow up
question. And then of course, we have the Bogut of forced plane
landing of the Bolivian President which is not a forced
landing. So there's a lot of bullcrap and Glenn Greenwald is
espousing this himself this is all part of his book I don't
know what's going on but I don't know if he realizes he lying but
he's it's not correct. And the and we we our little show here
has been able to find this evidence and played it for you
over and over again. Now we have Glenn claiming something new
which I think is yeah, this is this is really this is this
takes the cake when it comes to descriptive words to help the
citizenry understand
documents that that prove that what he was saying was true he
had to take ones that included very sensitive detailed
blueprints of how the NS now let us
understand blueprints blueprints is something that I think were
last used in well they still do it in houses. I don't think
they're actual blueprints the way they were John. I see
printout sometimes in construction sites
Yeah, they do they have this all been put on the computers with
these various programs and now give you it's not even I suppose
in some great sense. It is a blueprint, but it's very fine.
You get up you get, you know, every little thing is, is
printed out. And it's all vailable on the machine. It's
all computer based, right so but when he says blueprint, yeah,
it's like you see a row Pulling out this big thing
what is he actually saying that Snowden has
a does what they do. And so he's in possession of literally 1000s
of documents that contain very specific blueprints that would
allow somebody who read them to know exactly how the NSA does
what it does.
Okay, so this to me is such a bullshit statement he has in his
possession documents that are blueprints that anyone who knows
how to read them will know how the NSA does what it does. What
the hell is that? This is nothing more than you just open
it up.
You strip off the insulation before you take another wire and
weld it on. Soldering guy
What is this blueprints? Bullshit um, so I put a TNT
with a box that we don't know anything what's in it but
the blueprint trunkline
ideas bullcrap.
It's totally ridiculous. It's really really ridiculous that
he's saying this stuff. And meanwhile,
it makes it sound as though the NSA is out there with a you
know, they're all a bunch of technicians with pliers in their
pockets. Yeah. And they got like, with maybe a green visor
Yeah, exact with the magnifying glasses under the magnifying
glasses. Yeah, like, Okay, I need to John, do you have the
blueprint? I don't know how to put this wiretap in place hold
on a second blueprints. So you're trying to dumb this down
for us? Greenwald. You're trying to dumb it down for me or you
want to tell me what you what he actually has? Or better yet? Why
don't you just show us big boy, which he stopped doing now. It's
just just throwing stuff out there. And of course, this is
working in everybody's favor, except for the American citizens
who are supposed to be very frayed now. And, you know, we
want to have you know, of course, we want to, we want all
the security and this is all very important. And we have to
we want to be safe, and it's a trade off and it's all good. But
meanwhile, Silicon Valley has been just hoodwinked into this.
Microsoft is appealing to Attorney General Eric Holder to
allow the tech giant to share more information with the public
about how it handles NSA requests for customer
information. In a blog post, Microsoft says it tried to open
public discussion on information sharing, only to be ignored or
denied by government lawyers. Of course,
we're gonna do that we want control over you, Microsoft, we
want to we want to make you look bad. You have our agent Devora
back there who's writing of horrible things about you and PC
Magazine. We want to make you look bad. So we control you. So
you do what we tell you to do. Am I the only one who sees this?
Is this not transparent to everybody? John?
I would say it's not transparent to anybody. Okay, maybe a few
people will listen to the show. Everybody but our friend in
Mongolia
and now we have our our new girl on the block. Jen Psaki
God and Jen as your dog and this woman? Yeah, no, I
have to because there's something about her that I love
and hate at the same time. She's like,
she's like big nurse and they want Flew Over the Cuckoo's
Nest. She's got this nice powerful because like she could
just crush you. Yes. But you're a little kid because she talks
to everyone like
they're six. Yes. I didn't work out so well. The other day sit
down
and be a nice boy, aren't you? I think she's a dominatrix. Yeah.
This is this is I think what I'm feeling. I'm seeing her in.
Yeah, like a dominatrix outfit with boots. With leather. Yeah,
went and I have an orange ball in my mouth. I'm not quite sure
what's happening.
Yeah, that would be right.
And you're not after the show.
And you're not in my fantasy?
Yeah, that would be true. Right. But now, I might be filming it.
Well, Matt is in my dream. Well,
I can tell you I hadn't seen or I don't have independent
confirmation, I guess I should say about any request he's made.
I can tell you that. We have been in touch, of course, with
Russian officials, our embassy in Moscow.
Now listen to this because she she really puts her foot into it
and everyone piled jumps on her
has been in direct contact on the ground. We are disappointed.
We know she's an Amr. I just want to hear what she's saying.
Because
I just want to see if she could bring ours No, she can
break powers record. You listen how bad it gets with her
that Russian officials and agencies facilitated this
meeting today by allowing these activists and representatives
into the Moscow Airport's transit zone to meet with Mr.
Snowden, despite the government's declarations of
Russians neutrality with respect to Mr. Snowden. So
I'm sorry, you're disappointed that they let someone into their
own airport.
Well, that they facilitated this event, of course.
I love Matt. Like, I don't get it. Why disappointed? Because he
knows he's good. He is good. So Oh, yeah, he
definitely has So that's like a fencing match between these two.
Yeah. So So she said, Well, they facilitated it. Why?
Because this gave a forum
that you should have a forum, as he for us forfeited his right to
freedom of speech as
well, Matt, Mr. Mr. Snowden, as we've talked about, let me just
say this because I think it's important Shut up. He's not a
whistleblower. He's not human rights activist. He's wanted on
a series of serious criminal charges brought in these certain
Eastern District of Virginia and the United States.
I'm sorry, but I didn't realize people were wanted on charges
forfeited their right to speak to free speech, I also didn't
realize that people who are not whistleblowers are not human
rights activists, as you say he is not that they forfeited their
rights to speak. So I don't understand why you're
disappointed with the Russians. But neither that, leave that
aside for a second.
Okay, so now let's, let's shuttle on down the road a
little bit, no one's letting her off the hook on this
focus, Matt is on how our concern about how Russian
authorities clearly helped assist the ability of attendees
to participate in this. That is of concern to us, our focus is
on returning Mr. Snowden to the United States. Beyond that, I
just don't have anything for you.
I'm just I'm trying to get the you are saying that this
essentially, it wasn't a press conference, but it might as well
have been. You don't think? And you don't think the Russians
should have held facilitated
a propaganda platform?
Wait a minute. What's this? Oh, it's Jen. Digging Deeper? Yes,
the hole is their propaganda platform. So
this is to your mind, something like them, bringing out a
defected spy from the Cold War and putting on a platform and
having an having him rail against the United States is
that
I'm not going to draw comparisons along those lines.
But let me say that Mr. Snowden could should return to the
United States to face these charges. That where he where he
was
one more, one more where everyone's jumping in.
I can't get enough of this woman.
People are having a meeting with human rights activists. I don't.
This is not this is not a universal position of the United
States. This is an individual who has been accused of three
felony charges. This is not a unique
he's been accused. Do you remember the old line that we're
supposed to all? No,
no, no, I don't know anything about that.
He has not been convicted of anything it states and
so surely is people who are accused of crimes are allowed to
the right of free speech? Are they not?
Mad? I think we've gotten around a
legitimate question. I mean, you talked about even in Russia.
Here's Mollywood journalists have been persecuted and
political activists have been persecuted and
exactly how about Pussy Riot? Remember, I was like, oh, pussy
ride free pussy ride free Pussy Riot
you call for free speech around the world. But you're not saying
that. Mr. Snowden has the good point. Free speech? Good point.
Not
at all what I was saying we believe, of course broadly in
free speech
broadly. Broadly,
broadly, unless it's a propaganda campaign by a non
whistleblower, non human rights activist, you slaver concern
here was that this was first, there was obvious facilitation
by the Russians. In this case. we've conveyed that we've
conveyed our concern. So you're,
you're not upset about the press conference, you're upset that
the Russians facilitated, we certainly are
upset that there was a platform I'm an individual.
But what does that matter? Really? I mean, you know, people
that are in jail are on trial in the United States. They give
press conferences where they speak out all the time. I mean,
it's it sounds to me like what you're not really upset with the
app that he spoke you're upset with the fact that the Russians
did something on his behalf
I think I've expressed what was said about and you keep saying
what we're upset about but I think I've made clear upset
about
I wanted to cry one day I just wanted to go clear grilling her
I just wanted to go runs off.
Here's what's happening though this is some crazy stuff is
going on as a part of this people are sending me and we
have a lot of sis admins a lot of IT people who work in these
in this field for living this is being used the Snowden thing to
an extreme as I have here. Let me say this is like don't let
your network be you know, be Snowden. The people using this
now as as like a like a marketing tool. Yeah. Oh, and
check this out. Today is quantum Don to win takes place.
Quantum Dong,
almost quantum Dawn, as in quantum Dawn cybersecurity
exercise to test incidence response resolution and
coordination processes for the financial services sector and
the individual member firms to a street wide cyber attack is
going on today. As you never know what will happen because
you know, of course, these these exercises often turn into
something fun. I just thought the whole idea of the name
quantum dawn to was kind of nefarious. And then we have
Phyllis Schneck, Phyllis Schneck currently works for she is the
Vice President and Chief Technology Officer and McAfee.
And she is the likely next choice to be the next Deputy
Undersecretary for cybersecurity at the Department of Homeland
Security. Hello. Uninstall that shit now. Honestly, I keep
saying
uninstall it anyway because the mess you got said so
this spyware at this point is so obvious and now you go right
from the company that's supposed to protect you right into the
DHS. Are you kidding me? Here's I've just got a couple of lists
here. This is the right now today actually started yesterday
is the Aspen Security Conference. The Aspen security
forum forum is taking place in I don't know Aspen and everybody's
there. I Kaiser Alexander leucaena, Paula Tano Positano,
everybody's there. And the end including the insurance sector,
because this is a huge insurance boom, now you can insure
yourself against a cyber attack, which is just beautiful. But I'd
like you to check out the moderators of the Aspen 2013
Aspen security forum. Let me see if I can find it. Where are
these lowlifes? The website URL is apt Aspen institute.org.
And it'll Aspen Institute. Yes.
And and over the next three I think all the way through the
weekend. They have this this big conference. It's streaming live
and I was watching it before the show. It's quite fascinating.
But now
there's no good clips at these things. No, never. This is just
blowhards. I think all this stuff is done in the back room.
Sure. But look at who the so it's Blitzer look at all look at
all of them. Give me all the names. Every single person who
was facilitating
you went to moderators to 2013 Moderator Yes, every single
one of them. Works for it works for news.
Yeah. Yeah, this Aspen Institute is sketchy. Christopher ation,
which is the Vice President Washington bureau chief of CBS
News. WOLF BLITZER, the host of the Situation Room. Susan
Glasser, editor of Politico. Catherine herridge.
That's the that's the pixie girl.
The chief intelligence correspondent for Fox News.
She's obviously been in the ER still is working for one of the
agencies. Kimberly does Diller author of breathing fire,
fighting to survive and get back to the fight.
And then oh, look, counterterrorism correspondent
for NPR. These are the moderators people, these people
get paid to do this. And I'm I'll bet you this is a cushy
gig.
Mike Isha cough. national correspondent, NBC News. Lesley
Stahl. 60 minutes, 60 minutes, Brian Rose, the chief
correspondent guy that's always ABCs David Sanger, The New York
Times guy. But another political these guys are supposed to be
was on and on. It's just a huge list.
But look at it. He
could have had two guys do all this stuff, but nothing else.
John
King. There's the New Yorker. There's Daily Beast, Time
Magazine, The Economist, Wall Street Journal. They're this
they're getting paid. And I'm sure each of them is getting at
least 20 grand. So some Oh, yeah. Oh, definitely.
I don't think so. Oh, if you have a might be but I think five
would be what? You
know what? Okay, what $1 This is compromised. These people are
supposed to be reporting on the very people they're
facilitating. And I watched John King, he's just sucking up to
everybody. Oh, when I was in Desert Storm, I didn't have
another experience with
total conflict of interest
complete. It's just a bunch of
douchebags. They're getting paid more than than $1. You're right.
They're getting bought off. And this is essentially the way you
do it with the media nowadays, because these guys aren't part
of the big money. So they have to do this sort of thing to get
the to make to get by
just checking in under said, Oh, no, I wouldn't want to hear
that. I mean, that we're
checking in live now with the Aspen security conference
secret and you're doing it in the interest of national
security. Don't run the risk of sharing it too widely with
people and then some stupid panel. It's annoying. It's
really annoying that this is taping always. Yeah, it's fun to
watch. I'll watch it. I mean, after the show, I'll watch it.
I'll watch. Oh, well, I can. We're leaving tomorrow.
Yeah, you can't be watching this. I can watch because I
think is boring. Yeah, well, there may be some gems in there,
but it's probably not worth the trouble. I had enough trouble I
was going. I spent all my time on C span listening to the
Intelligence Committee. You know, bitching and having them
lecturing them back and forth on FISA court. And I have a couple
of clips that are well, and it was a good committee that got
some good people under that, that, unfortunately, the
smartest of them are slow talkers. And
don't you hate that? Who's that?
Well, the worst is Conyers. Now. I did just as a thing. I did a
con you're so just play up as much of this clip as you want. I
started trying to sweeten Conyers to shorten his five
minutes down to two minutes. Now just play a little bit of
Conyers once I understand how he how he talks. Okay.
Cin, in which if the government cannot provide a clear public
explanation for how its program is consistent with the statute,
that's
just not here. Yeah. Okay. Now I try. I tried speeding it up as
much as I could, with Conyers to
Omar wasn't there yet. In which, if the government cannot, like
this is good for you all our clips like that.
Now, I said, it doesn't really sound like Kanye. So I'm going
to change his pitch, and try to make him sound like Kanye is at
a sped up rate. And so this will be number three,
in which if the government can provide a clear public
explanation for how its program is consistent with the statute,
pretty good at most,
that spin up 100%, by the
way, and this is audacity, right? You're running through
audacity, you're speeding them up, but you're keeping, you're
keeping the you're shortening the time span, essentially good
job.
And so I can shorten it as much as I could, by using the tempo.
With tiempo, it keeps the voice pretty much the same, and then
speeds it up both at the same time. And I did that on top of
the 100% speed up trying to get it down to a two minute clip
from a five minute clip. And it's still terrible. And this
will be the last version of it
in which if the government cannot provide a clearer public
explanation for how its program is consistent with the statute,
that it must be collecting this information immediately. And so
this may be a problem to me has gotten quite far out of hand,
even given the seriousness of the problems that surround it
and created its need.
Now, this should be a service. This should be a service that we
sell to Congress.
If you're anything to this, it's a little hard to listen shame,
because his points were great, but it's just like he can't get
them out. So I listened to some other guys. And there's a couple
of interesting things. And my favorite guy, of course, is does
NATO guy, who just and it this is a little this is a two minute
clip, but it's fun to watch them when they this assistant FBI
director, this guy Cole who's a huge apologist for recording
everything, the FBI would just love it if we were just all had
cameras in everybody's houses, and they wouldn't have to do so
much work. So NATO is like that New York guy who said what is
what is so valuable about what Snowden released? It looks like
a bunch of bullcrap. So here he is grilling a coal on the US on
the on the way the Patriot Act has been abused
about the relevant standard is that everything in the world is
relevant, and that if we remove that, and then if we removed
that word from the statute, you wouldn't consider or the FISA
court wouldn't consider that it would affect your ability to
collect metadata in any way whatsoever, which is to say
You're disregarding the statute entirely. Now, in public
briefings, including this committee, we were when we were
considering the authorization of section 215. Administration
officials have suggested that we view the authority of section
215 as similar to a grand jury subpoena. And we specified in
the statute, that in order under Section 215, quote, may only
require the production of a tangible thing if such thing can
be obtained, unquote, through a grand jury subpoena. Now, can
you give me Mr. Cole, any examples where Grand Jury
subpoenas were used to allow the bulk and ongoing collection of
telephone metadata?
It's it's difficult to go into specific examples of what Grand
Jury subpoena is call for because there any such subject
to the rules of secrecy under Rule so come
on, are there any are there any instances in the history of the
United States that you know, where a grand jury subpoena
said, Get every get oil information other than the
content of of telephone call of old telephone was in the United
States or anything like that.
The the admonition in the statute is that it is the types
of records that are collected by Grand Jury subpoena. Not that it
is an identical process to the grand jury process. Because this
is quite different from a Grand Jury Prize,
the type of data it involves me the type of data, the type of
data is metadata unlimited to specific individuals,
the type of data is metadata and
unlimited. What is he trying to get at? I
was saying that there is in the in the 215, that they have to
that the procedure, because they added this clause in 2008, I
believe, of relevancy. So you can't just go get it is actually
seen in the relevancy proposal, it says it has to be similar to
how a grand jury would determine the word
relevance. It's I think the term is relevant and not relevancy.
Well, it's the same, it's the same route. I can use it either.
Well, yes,
no, no, but but in the in Section 215, itself, the term is
relevant. And it is that interpretation,
right, they've interpreted is everything is relevant. And
well, of course, everything's relevant, everything is
connected. This also says into 15, that you have to has to be
has to be based on the way a grand jury would do it. And
they're saying, and so he's trying to get to the point,
which is, has this ever been done, where a grand jury would
have said, Yes, take everything in the world and put it in a
database. And he just wants him to say, admit that this has
never been done. This is a completely new idea. And just so
anyway, so he goes on with that Sensenbrenner, who is the guy
who wrote the Patriot Act, or one of the writers, he says
they're gonna pull to 15 out of it, if they keep abusing it like
this. That was an interesting Oh,
please, that's never gonna happen.
But, but we do have one guy, this guy, Scott, who's another
slow talker. But I thought this was the absolute best of all the
clips that I have. Senator Scott, any apparently there's
some evidentiary clauses in I guess, in some US Code that a
lot that allows in court cases, you know, when there's a court
case, that guy is knocking on your door cop is not going to do
door, and he's going to ask you if you can move your car. And in
while he would
you mean like that?
Exactly like that. And so and then he sees a dead body. Right?
Yeah, I see
a dead body over there,
you can bust him without probable cause? Because he's,
you see, some of that is probable cause,
right? Yes,
there is a way of snow this is there's some this it's not.
Initially when they got to your house, they didn't go there with
probable cause? No. So that's the door now you have probable
cause? Because you discovered the crime in the process of
going to the door. Yes, correct. So that so if you hadn't gotten
to the door, you wouldn't have found this or would have been
nothing would have happened, which is why I don't open up if
you go from door to door to door and you start harassing
everybody busting into the place you can. So let's say get the
body upstairs, they bust into the place and run upstairs
there's a body and they say Why saw the body in the process of
busting in and the point is, is that there's all kinds of ways
that you can get arrested. Yeah, this guy, Scott. Yeah.
Like having a dead body in your house is a good way to get
rested.
Well, obviously. But you can't. You can't just do a dragnet.
That's the thing that we don't allow in this country. You can't
just dragnet. You can't record everybody's phone calls and
start listening in to find time.
John, what are you talking about? This is being done. It's
over. It's this is all just waste of energy. I don't know
what they're doing up there.
This is just telling you it's still illegal. Yeah. Recruit.
And listen to me any phone call? You feel I know. I know. Right?
Because everybody might have a crime going on. And who knows
what the crime might be. I got tons of crime going on. This guy
has brought this up with these guys saying that this collection
is bullcrap. Because there's there's exclusionary stuff,
they're gonna end up using this collection, which of course we
know on this show. And we've talked about before this thing
even opened up that the idea of making this collection is not
for terrorism, it's for either black male, or you know, just
grabbing a few bad guys out of the power front
running, getting financial information, so you can lots and
lots of trade.
Okay, exactly trading before a trade anyway. But play Senator
Scott trying to get this out. It's kind of pathetic, but he's
at least makes the point.
Thank you. Mr. Cole did understand you to say that you
do not have an expectation of privacy on your phone records.
The Supreme Court ruled in Smith versus Maryland that you do not
have a sufficient expectation of privacy in the phone records as
we've talked about. The two
okay, that's this was Douglas you indicated that you did not
you just get the numbers, not the names. Is there a, if the
numbers are relevant under whatever standard you're using
whether or not the names equally relevant?
Good question. Well, the names are not collected in the
metadata. Well,
where's the limitation? If you can get the numbers? Why can't
you get the names?
Well, we can through other legal process, and that's what the FBI
will do. And so if we receive a phone number,
oh, no, I mean, I mean, you Why don't you get it all at once?
Where's where's the statutory limitation?
If I can answer because it's more hours? That's an obvious
answer them
by computers, no more hours involved. They could do it.
No, they could. But it takes a whole nother process. There's
more
work, which is more work for the computers?
No, but a guy still has to walk to the other computer.
At once, I think he's right. You know,
you're missing my point. You're missing my point. My point is
the FBI wherever he's answering. They just want more work.
Oh, I see what yours. Yeah, yeah. They want to get paid by
the hour. Yes.
Overtime over Oh, now we have to go. Oh, no, we have to go get
all the names. Oh, boy. Okay. Well, if you insist,
that's actually a good rash. Thank you.
Thank question here. I think this indicates the fact that
there's the Deputy Attorney General said that this program
is carefully set up in such a manner that minimize the
invasion of privacy. One of the reasons is the statutory
limitation is found reasonable is the fact that the collection
is very limited. The access is very is very low.
Okay. You have you have made up collection. That's because you
have made up the program, I asked you a specific question
where if this if this is available, where's the statutory
limitation to what you can get? There is no statutory
limitation, you kind of making it up as you go along. Yeah,
we're, we're not making it up. We're seeking the approval of
the court. And this is this. Okay. Watching has been
repeatedly approved by numerous judges of the FISA Court found
to be in compliance with the statute. Okay, once
you get the information, we know through the recent case on DNA,
once you get DNA from somebody, you can use it in ways that you
could not have obtained the information. But once you've got
it, you can run it through no probable cause, or anything
through the through the database. That question is once
you get this metadata, where's the limitation on what you can
use it for? It's in the court's order. Where is the statutory
limitation?
Now explain this, John, because, you know, some people if this
were on CNN, people would fall asleep. Yeah, this is no agenda,
which is very important that we have this. So when they're
talking about the statutory limitation, what exactly are
they does he mean, in this regard? Because it keeps
hammering on that?
Well, apparently, there isn't one. That's the point. He's
trying to get one of these guys to admit. So
you get that which means you can keep this information forever,
and it can be used against you in perpetuity for the rest of
your life. Is that Is that what I'm what I
think yeah, even though they say they're only gonna keep it for
five years, I still believe that the five year limitation is
based on the on the just like billions of calls a day, I think
is based on the perceived maximum capacity of the storage.
And how much me at some point is bigger than Google, if you're
going to start saving all this crap. And so, which is another
reason? I think they don't want to keep the names? I think it's
it just adds to the database. So he wants to know, you know,
where can you stop? I keep saying what's in the court
order, but the court orders the secret. And in fact, in fact,
you want to go back to something interesting. There's this at the
beginning of the whole thing, that's the classic parts at
play. Here's the thing that's kind of weird. This is the the
guy who is the chairman. Kind of putting guidelines around this,
about this hearing called classified setting bullcrap
concept, and that you can go back to this Scott thing
later, again, assure ourselves of the answers that we need.
Before we begin with questions for our witnesses, I must stress
that the well first of all, without objection, all other
members opening statements will be made a part of the record.
Before we be my objection for our witnesses. I must stress
that the programs this hearing is addressing remain classified.
I expect the witnesses appearing before us today, particularly on
our first panel, to answer questions from members with as
much candor as possible given the unclassified setting. But I
also wish to caution members of the committee that they should
be cognizant of this unique dynamic when phrasing their
questions. The simple fact that certain programs have been
leaked does not mean that they have been declassified and
members and witnesses a leg would be violating the law where
they did disclose classified information during this hearing.
I would also like to note that the committee intends to hold a
subsequent classified briefing so that we have an opportunity
to more closely examine those programs and
pose questions to our witnesses that are not appropriate in this
open setting.
You see, that's when I tune out I'm like, well, all the good
stuff is going to be secret just like your court is secret.
Secret bothers
everyday secrets a secret everything secrets. To me, is
that what Yeah, that's fine. I mean, that's always been
bothersome, and that's nothing where you're going to be able to
do about that. So, carpe, but what gets me was the thing you
said just before that, which was just because everybody in the
world knows about the slideshow and everybody who's classified.
Yeah, it's still classified. So you can't talk about it. Yes,
that make any sense at all. We have
rules. They must be followed. You must listen to how the rules
are put in place.
I'm asking you. I'm answering you. These were the Nazi.
Yes, they're Nazis. This has not been declassified. No, it has
not been officially declassified, which will not
happen until 2027.
So and by the way, this has been sent out to the military, as far
as I know, that if you have a classified or top secret
clearance, you can't talk about this. You can't talk about the
article written in The Washington Post. No.
And we know that and this was tweeted a million times that
defense contractors have received emails every day,
everyone in defense has received emails saying you can't look at
that if you know it may be tempting. You may want to go
look at Glenn Greenwald's column but you can't do that. It's you
know, and they're blocking access to the Guardian, and it's
a whole thing is ridiculously stupid. And we get it. We're,
we're on our backs. Go ahead. It's okay. We get we want
safety. Save me, I want to be safe. I don't want to get blown
up who don't hurt me, please do whatever you want. It's that the
conversation is over. As far as I'm concerned. Now, all we can
do is just laugh at it.
Which we attempt? occasion? Yeah.
And I've I've stopped carrying a phone. I'm done. I'm not. I'm
not I'm not I don't carry your phone around. I've just done.
Okay, I'm done. So don't show
up with Scott as he tries to make a point in a very awkward
manner. But I think I think everyone heard what he was
saying. And it got nowhere, of course. But let's finish him.
The court.
The statutory limitation says that we can we can acquire the
the information as ordered by the court. The court sets limits
on what we can do with it, and we adhere to those limits.
Well, is there unlimited criminal investigations or an
exception for criminal investigations without probable
cause?
With respect to information obtained under Section once
you've got
the metadata, can you run a criminal investigation without
probable cause,
it cannot be the metadata can only be used, hid in pursuit of
a terrorism investigation. And the only thing that is done with
that is a telephone numbers are generated out of it for further
investigation and will not be used for for a criminal
investigation unrelated to terrorism.
Wait a minute. What are you talking about minimization?
The court's order provides that we can only use this data for
tat for purposes of terrorism investigation.
What how does the court get to? Why is the court required to
place that limitation on it?
Because the court looks at the application that we are
submitting and determines that with all of the restrictions
that are imposed here. This is a reasonable method of collecting
this information, and it admitted complies with both the
statute and the Fourth Amendment.
Is there an extra is there an exception on the minimization
for criminal investigations, I mentioned G minimization
procedures to see says that, notwithstanding subparagraphs, A
and B procedures that allow for the retention and dissemination
of information that is evidence of a crime which has been is
being or about to be committed. And that is to be retained or
disseminated for law enforcement purposes are exempted from the
minimization requirements.
The procedures applicable to this kind of collection allow it
only to be used on the terms specified by the court.
This is really getting on my nerves. So here's there's
another there's another two minutes of this of them just
well,
this is the problem with these guys are not very succinct. But
let's let's wrap it by saying here's what the true what the
trend, the true trend is on this, whether you like it or
not. And of course, we already know this is going to happen.
They collect this stuff, and they have this bullshit argument
that will this is only for this, we're never going to look at it
and all the rest. And then there's going to be some
evidence that there is a there'll be a crime committed
with somebody that can make the link to some terrorist at some
point and say and then then hook all these phone numbers up and
then there'll be a link from those phone numbers to
somebody's got nothing to do with terrorism, but he's like a
mobster gangster is something and there's and then there's
going to, they're going to say, well, we couldn't do anything.
And then it's going to result in a murder, or it's going to be a
bunch of people killed. And they then they're going to come and
say why couldn't we use that information to stop this
homicide when We had the information before us, we
couldn't use it for the homicide investigation, but they couldn't
because there's a limitation to statutory limitation, if he's
only been used for terrorism, we really need to have this
information released for general law enforcement purposes, cause
it will save lives. It will we would do, the school shooting
could have been prevented. If we had hit this all this data that
they've collected for us, they've done a good job of that
of Americans talking to Americans. So we need this stuff
to be released. And it's going to save lives. It's going to
we're going to get sued because this information is available.
We didn't use it to stop and prevent this horrible tragedy.
This is all over
my summary. The Unabomber was right.
You say that every show? Because it's
true. This is exactly what he wrote. Well, let me
ask you the question, then, if you have all this date, he got
all these phone calls. And you can prevent a murder of a small,
innocent child who is going to be killed. And you'd know this
because of the phone calls that were available to you to listen
in on. Yes. Wouldn't it be right, totally the right thing
to do? Totally.
I think everyone should walk outside naked all the time. So
this is just a small piece of the larger puzzle. And right
now, as I overview, as I oversee the landscape that is media. I
see that we are now in a period of messaging. And the messaging
is coming through in a number of ways. And they're all kind of
subtle. But we're all we're already past the year right. So
I will say unequivocably, there will be a point someone's gonna
get killed and be like, oh, you know, if only we had the if only
had the permission to do this. And this is kind of what
happened with Boston, although it was a mucked up operation.
And to accentuate this, this is brilliant. I could not have
thought of this actually. The Rolling Stone magazine I'm sure
you've seen has Joe har kind of in a Jim Morrison doors kind of
beautiful Jim Morrison Rockstar a pose in fact, I think there
you could put the two together you'd see it's almost the same
the same vibe. And this is to program it's it's to program
your brain it makes you it freaks people out. Of course
it's also to sell magazines is no doubt about that. But it does
not compute in your brain your brain goes haywire when you see
a beautiful young kid and you know that he is of course
science as in we have all the videos of seeing the show and
everything we know he did it we don't have any confessed even
though he says no. But he still wrote it down and confessed on
the inside of the boat. So the story is unimportant. It is the
programming in your brain that makes your brain go. How can
this be? So now you're like, well, any kid could be a bomber.
It could be the kid next door. It could be any Rockstar. But it
could be the kid next door. That kid looks suspicious to me. This
is this is the programming what is going on now let's take
journalist, journalist you're being programmed to you're being
programmed and I've looked into this woman now there's Kimberly
Dvorak, she's full of crap. This is like I don't know where they
picked this woman up. She has no history. You know, she's like a
concealed she's like conspiracy theorists website owner, I don't
know who she is the one who's you know, Oh, right. She has no
credibility. Listen to this piece when that's about Hastings
and she's on some California San Diego San Diego station or
whatever. And she said this is not reporting okay, I really
want it all to be true. But this is not reporting this is
messaging and I don't know where this woman came from. But she's
a shill Yes, there
is what have you learned and I know you talked to some family
members did you not I
spoke with some very close friends of the family
very close friends of the family. Okay,
I think the most concerning thing that I heard and again,
it's Wednesday I have not confirmed this with Michael
Hastings wife
but haven't confirmed it with Michael Hastings wife like you'd
like you're in touch with her no
close family friend did confirm that Michaels body was sent home
in earn Okay.
When you are a cremated they don't send you home in an urn.
This is television the bullcrap. They send you home in a box in a
bag in a box. They don't buy an urn. You can buy an urn you
combine earned but the corner does not go out and buy an urn
and send you back in an urn. I'm sorry, it's a lie. This is not
true. It's not true. When you even if you if you want someone
to be cremated,
well maybe it wasn't in an urn to say she's just generalizing
bowl
but this is bullcrap. This is a message as she is out there to
send a message The message is they can get your car they can
control your car,
meaning he was cremated. And it wasn't the request of the family
that went forward and asked for something like that. In fact,
the family wanted Michael's body to go home
but she doesn't know that because she didn't talk to the
family
and for a coroner to go out and do an autopsy and then send a
body home in this urn in an urn. Come on, John,
This is bull crap.
This is bull crabs
report.
Shocking for reasons if there was any evidence in his body. At
the time a dad drug anything that's gone.
I'm gonna continue I'm gonna continue with this woman because
I don't like it. I don't like what I'm hearing for you. This
is your new Yeah, no, I
don't I don't like to pull up. Here she is on our T. Now she's
on RT and she's with what's her name? Break the set girl, Abby.
Abby. And so this is what
happened that now you're getting to the point where I now may be
buying into your thesis.
Listen to this. So this is Abby, who is I'm sorry. Cutie dumb.
Abby is on the show. And she used to break it down for me a
little bit. Oh, hello. And she's on Skype in her in her in her
lair. In her secret office where she's investigating all of this.
This is stupid.
Yeah, we're gonna pull up an article from Huffington Post,
where former National Coordinator for counterterrorism
Richard Clarke said that Hastings car crash was
consistent with a cyber car cyber attack. Okay,
so listen to what's going on here. Hastings comes out and
says, Oh, yeah, that was consistent with a car cyber
attack, yada Qhubeka Why is he saying this all of a sudden? And
why is this woman corroborating what he says reason
to believe that intelligence agencies from major powers,
including the US know how to remotely seize control of a car.
Kimberly, can you speak to why this crash looks like it could
have been the result of a car hack.
I mean, could you believe the witness anymore? That
some of that I mean, I actually took it one step further I spoke
to we have a lot of drone manufacturers here in San Diego,
oh,
I spoke to drone Man Hello drone manufacturer.
I'd like to play and play. You're making it worse.
And I went out and spoke to a couple of these folks. And they
said that it's you have to hack into the computer system of the
vehicle, you could just trigger a sensor and it's going to make
the car either slam the brakes on itself,
because that's what drone manufacturers know about or go
you know,
headlights go out windshield wipers, there's a number of
things by just triggering as a sensor on the vehicle and that
way they couldn't eat there was no recourse that you can go back
and find who hacked into the system because all they did was
touch the sensor.
This is this woman by the way
awfulest if I was if I was her Yeah, and I wanted to take this
to the limit. Yeah, I think I could do a much better job for
one thing I would have done if I would have said that which is I
believe to be malarkey. But especially if it's remote
control you hit the disk there's no receiver on these things. Oh
no, no no we didn't we've talked about this yeah, there's some
that you could do with something but I would right away go right
into the Toyota thing and say that these are the control cars
were controlled remotely there's no evidence there's no evidence
because I've talked to people is now evidence drone manufacturers
Go ahead. Next to those cars in close enough proximity they can
take over the controls of the throttle accelerator and floor
it and turn the brakes off and follow them and there's always
been a chase car following
you ruining my point. My point my point is this is messaging
time. And we have messages for everybody and this is for for
the journalists we got little messages and this woman this
Kimberly Dvorak I think she did her name she probably took the
name just to sound more credible
I'm not kidding you actually there's a lot of journalists
there's a number of famous Dvorak writers
I know there is and keyboard makers I mean this is a quite an
industry your family's got going on you slob brother where's the
money alright so now now we already have where people don't
they're completely a pathetic they don't care about your phone
calls being listened to it's become a joke like Haha, well
the Your dad is there he's listening anyway, the
government's so everyone's like, whatever. I got nothing to had,
because they just stupid because they don't know what's going to
happen. What can go on with this thesis. Now here's the here's
the next piece. And this is how the private sector gets brought
into it in the most disgusting way. This is Rochester Airport,
Rochester, New York.
I accused his car was inspected by the valet attendants on
orders from the TSA. But why don't the valet park cars?
That's what we wanted to ask the TSA director about. We reached
him by phone or the cars in the short term law That's the long
term lots getting searched as well, no, no. So what's the
difference? Those vehicles are in the garage, short term long
term parking, even if they carried pretty large amounts of
explosive would not cause damage to the front of the airport. But
what's the use of delay that the car could be there for half hour
or an hour so that you know, there is a vulnerability.
Okay, so let me explain what's going on. Before I continue with
the clip. at Rochester airport. If you valet your car, which is
quite common these days, for parking, your car gets searched
on behalf of the TSA by the valet company. And it's only
cars that are valid because it could cause significant damage
to the front of the airport. And other cars couldn't I mean, this
is
I think, I think this is very, very conscientious on these
people's part. Now I'm gonna ask you a question. Yes. So So I
guess there's an epidemic of cars blowing up at the airport?
I mean, how many? There must have been dozens by now how many
have there been? Since? I don't know 1950? How many cars have
blown up at the airport and valet parking? Zero. But then
what's the problem?
Well, this is what I want you to listen to the whole report
because you can of course, guess where this is going to go. So
this this comes up because a woman she'll call up the TV
station, hey, I was like, somebody search my car didn't
say that they could search my car. But now listen to the
report, and how it is brought smoothly upon you.
We went to the valet parking today, one of the attendants
showed us the notice that they have to put in the cars, you're
required. They tell you you have to search on
foot. So the TSA is telling these guys they have to search
private property their car and look at what we
noticed on the kiosk window, a large sign that alerts customers
that their vehicle will be inspected. We showed this to
Laurie I acoustic I want to show you a picture I took at the
airport today. This is the valet kiosk. Do you remember seeing
that sign? No, it wasn't that there I wait for
them to be aware of the fact that their cars gonna be sure to
should be informed of it.
Laurie said Does she doesn't mind the security measure at
ours? No, I don't mind at all that she makes it feel a little
bit more secure. And I feel more secure just wants to be told
that if her car is getting searched, I asked the owner of
the company that runs the valet parking. When did they put that
sign up? He wouldn't answer that question. The TSA says this is
part of its overall security plan and that it's a proactive
move to keep you and your family safe at the airport. The
attendants told me they've only been doing this for about a
month. It's
a part of the overall plan. John the overall plan to go off the
actual out of the terminal and make sure your car is searched.
Now, here's the final bit how the CO opting private enterprise
into this police state.
So what exactly do they inspect quickly?
Well, the attendants told me it's kind of a three phase
thing. They're ordered to search the trunk, the engine and scan
the inside of the car, they say it takes about 30 seconds to do
it. They'd say they don't go through your console or your
glove boxes. The TSA says they're instructing these valet
attendants to look for large amounts of explosive material.
How
stupid is that? This is nuts.
It's totally nuts. It what it all is going to result in is a
bunch of stolen laptops.
Well, that that of course it's criminal enterprise. But when
this happens, it's over. It's just over people are just
everyone's like, okay, whatever. There's no,
I know. And then if the news media is complicit because they
play the clip of that dingbat, where if I knew it'd be okay,
yeah, I feel you know, or not, I
feel much safer now.
I feel better because I knew I knew in advance they were going
to search my car. I didn't know if everybody good night. Take
the marijuana out of the trunk. Yeah. I mean, you know, which
again, I mean, this is like the TSA that had been put in place
to stop terrorism and look for bombs and weapons at the
airports and they bust people left and right for dope.
Yes. And then still, we have bombs going off and Bob that you
live with
you? And if they didn't do that, yeah. How could you let that
person go through the illegal substances? You just have to
bust them for dope. Yeah. Yeah, no, the whole thing is is set up
to just I mean, the police states on him on his merry way.
But, you know, curiously, this has been going on. I don't know
what did when did you think it really began? It began in the
mid 80s, I believe, maybe, at least by 1990. Was that at least
during the Clinton administration, it was really
going full tilt.
I think this is a suggestion from the chat room that they
should also check your your in car audio system, check a
playlist to make sure you not listen to the radicalized music
that you enjoy
or something by reading, any audible voice literature, anti
government literature, went to the house they had anti
government literature. I don't even Know what anti government
literature is?
This is a literature. I want to bring this up then since since
we're on it, and then we should know we need to go to our very
short donation segment for today. So as a part of the
recent appropriations bill that was signed into law, people have
noted that the hrs 5736, was also ratified deep inside the
600. And whatever pages of the Authorization Act, I did not
catch this. This is part of the Smith Mundt act. Specifically,
the what do they call it? The Smith month Modernization Act of
2012. And what's interesting is that we talked about this on
episode 410. So this is last year, God knows maybe about a
year ago, probably, if you think about it. And in our show notes,
which are a thing of beauty in this case, I was able to pull
out the Authorization Act, which we marked up at the time. And do
you know what this is about the Smith Modernization Act of 2012?
It was something that was not modern, I know that. Okay.
Well, let me read the are highlighted pieces to you, a
bill to amend the United States Information educational exchange
act of 1948. to authorize the domestic dissemination of
information and material about the United States intended
primarily for foreign audiences. And for other purposes. This is
the propaganda act.
Right, I'm remembering it better and better go on
general authorization. The Secretary and the Broadcasting
Board of Governors, which is fun, I've put a link in the show
notes, you can take a look at that. And the Secretary is the
Secretary of State that will be John F. Kerry, are authorized.
According now, this is now in law, to use funds appropriated
or otherwise made available for public diplomacy Information
Programs, ie propaganda, to provide for the preparation,
dissemination, and the use of information intended for foreign
audiences abroad about the United States, its people and
its policies, through press publications, radio, motion
pictures, the Internet and other information media, including
social media, and through information centers, instructors
and other direct or indirect means of communication. So this
goes on, I hereby call this the mainstream media funding bill
2013. Everybody's going to be having their hand out now baby.
And we should be we should get a piece of this. We should, I'm
thinking the same thing. So this is what you know, originally
Voice of America and stuff like that was funded by this. And
when they dropped leaflets from airplanes in 1948, but now it's
social media. So you can start a company to hey, I'm gonna do
whatever propaganda you want, which the whole reason for this
Smith month Act was so that the United States government could
not turn its propaganda machine on to the American people. This
has now been overturned and approved,
right? Essentially, we can propagandize ourselves. And I
believe that includes we can do psyops on the American public
on ourselves. Yes, on ourselves. Yes,
we can run these games, maybe, you know, that, which the media
is adept at. And they're now now meeting together over there. And
Aspen, the the movers and shakers are laced a lot of them.
And here's how here's how it goes, Hey, you know, it's great.
You could do came to moderate force. Yeah. So we have this,
this new budget. And we were thinking maybe you could add,
you know, a little something extra in your segment at the end
of the news. And we
don't you're getting close to that Lumberg style, which I like
we
we we write it for you, you don't have to actually do any
extra work. In fact, we have a piece all pre produced with a
donut. So you can just come in and you know, and it's all good,
it's good to go. You don't have to do much peace with the donor.
donor, isn't that what it is, is the donor. And we even have a
version where you can do the voiceover. If you want if you
want if you want but if not, we have professionals we've hired
we've hired curry to vorak to do the voiceover work. They're
pretty good. Little annoying. This This to me is is a bigger
scandal than anything else we've talked about today. It is.
Remember it's motion pictures. Okay. Motion pictures. So I'll
just read the Part B one, except as provided in paragraph two,
the Secretary in the Broadcasting Board of Governors
may upon request, and reimbursement of the reasonable
costs incurred in fulfilling such a request make available in
the United States, motion pictures, films, video, audio,
and other materials prepared for dissemination abroad or
disseminated abroad pursuant to this act. In other words, when
they go on in Egypt, and they you've got the show because this
is this is the whole this what the CIA does baby I mean sorry
the other state department they will write up articles you know
the infiltrate the press, they write it up about what's going
on, it becomes truth here. But now they can just go ahead and
just publish it in the New York Times and the Wall Street
Journal, but also politico, and salon and The Guardian, and all
of these great publications. And you know what, these eight holes
will all take the money, every single one of them, every single
one of them if it's not at a at a managerial level, it's at the
individual reporter editor level,
or it's at the B conference speaker level,
right? I mean, let's face do you want food stamps? Or do you want
to be in with the cool kids? I'm not Yeah, I'm looking at you.
Devorah.
Yeah, well, sure. By the way, I'm just available.
We're available for the show
will be over especially with like this last donation segment.
All of our 1000s of people that listening 17 People thought it
wise to donate over $50
Hold on a second. Hold on. Oh, let's do it.
I'm gonna show my son move by donation to no agenda. Imagine
all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
17 people that think
Can I add insult to injury? Okay, just to get you all really
riled up.
I'm not I'm not gonna get riled. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because I'm
over. I'm already eyeballing this law. And you go on,
Hi, Adam. And John. Love your show. Love you guys questioning
everything. You're the only show that makes me have a good laugh
about power politics, but I can't get myself to contribute
because you're missing the biggest point of our lifetime.
The destruction of our Earth da. Just look at this video and
telling me the current co2 levels aren't manmade.
Temperature always follows the co2 levels. And we are in for a
rocky ride. Keep up the great work love your show time to wake
up. Mark.
Oh, I had another I got a guy. Okay, I guess we're gonna do
these one, one on ones.
I mean, can you believe that? I love your show everything. But
because you're not on board with my
thing. This is why we asked the general audience to contribute
because there's a holes like that guy who tried to, you know,
have their one agenda. They all want a job, no agenda. They have
one agenda and whatever it is that you know, we if we don't
address that agenda in the way they want us to they they're
never going to know what the joke is what the joke is. They
wouldn't donate anyway, of course. And he's just like one
of the so I have this guy who writes about once every two
months. No signature, no return address that comes in, in the
post office bucks bucks. 339 El Cerrito, California 94530. If
you want to send us a check, we got like, no checks on today's
show. And he writes a note and he says, I love your show. I
don't have the note because I get so mad. I usually tear the
note. But Mr. Curry used the Lord's name in vain. twice on
show 528 Man and I refuse to donate to his sinner.
I usually I say I I've sometimes even apologize. Sorry. I didn't
mean to take the Lord's name in vain, just to to stop this kind
of communication.
Yes, well, anyway, so he says this note and of course he
doesn't sign it as I know he's in Pittsburgh, or at least he
drives to Pittsburgh to mail it.
Oh, God will punish me.
Anyway, that went so we get a lot of these. Now we do have a
lot of people that donate less than $50 We want to thank all of
them. We're not meaning to demean them. But the whole thing
is a proportion. So we have the X number of people that donate
it's almost like it's like a pie chart. And so when we have the
low donors that donate to get recognized we have actually low
donors all the way down to the bottom except for the
subscribers which is a pretty consistent number and they're
always getting pulled away by Pay Pal. Terrible
Pay Pal then cuts him off and blames us this is yeah, so it's
not going well.
So this this was a struggle for us and I want to make sure
people realize that but let's thank the people who did come in
to 17 of them Derek boldly $100 from North Sydney, New South
Wales Australia and itemize a read these notes I was gonna say
you can read every single night and read all the notes now again
we go back to reading notes. This is good this is Chi Agatha
and Jebediah here's my knighthood turbo payment plan
installment which is good me is going to be paying 100 Every so
often please have some get well soon karma for my dad who is not
well at the moment. So let's get him some karma of course.
Love to be. This is gonna be a fun segment karma
good luck to Adam and Mickey on a trip. Also the donation graph
at no agenda nation.com does not appear to be upgrading. So can
Eric this She'll please have a look see? Regards thirsty of
North Sydney. Okay, Edward Halsey in San Francisco over
here. I can you wave it at the window? There he is. $100 he
would like a clippity clop. We haven't had that for a while to
celebrate Hillary's facelift.
Oh, okay. May I point out for those who haven't seen globe
magazine? That on the cover of globe magazine, it says right
there Hillary's new facelift.
Yeah, we have a picture of the back side by side in the last
newsletter. There's a good shot of that. And we were right
again. Messenger is clear. Clip.
I miss her. I really miss her. I miss her. She's she'll be back
but I miss you. Okay, well,
she'll be back younger and more vibrant with more energy. Yeah.
Lynn Fogg well in Raleigh, North Carolina, another $100 And he or
she says free TVs has not arrived until the slaves break
the store windows and run off with the big screen TVs. We have
to put that on the checklist. Yes, that is definite marker.
Grand Duke Vaughn Pels. mocker is my hero. Give him karma. Sir
Lynn Fogg Well, our sir. Sorry. You've got names like Pat. Wait
a minute, you gotta call me sir. God done it.
Oh, I did it again.
That's where it comes from.
It wasn't me.
Know Is that guy. So it wasn't me. Yeah, well, we lost another
donation from the guy in Pittsburgh, but although I will
say this, he won't donate anyway. Exactly. This is like
our PC Magazine. Always have these guys. I disagree with what
Dvorak wrote. I'm canceling my subscription.
You go look and he doesn't subscribe. Exactly. Yeah,
exactly. Oh, wait. Yeah, of course.
Ian Prentice
Oh my Oh wow. Let me get my jaw off the floor. You didn't say
eon Wow.
And by the way I'm waiting I'm waiting.
Oh, sorry. I was so enjoying all of the all the long notes. Here
we go
he is got a birthday on the 20th Yes, I think which is what
should we get it on Sunday? We're gonna do Oh no, it's a
birthday for today. No yellow it must be on the list that's on
the list. Yeah, yeah. Even prior to donation to get me to Grand
gentleman level of donation before my 30th birthday July the
20th. Joseph Gervasio in Jersey City 6969 69 Dudes thanks for
doing what you do. He'd like some karma.
Happy to give it to him. For today and today only you've got
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Way to go. Karma.
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one. Ash from Gitmo nation East says anonymous on here is that
our name appears on the spreadsheet 6969 Hertfordshire,
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expected. So I thought I'd donate some of the spare cash to
the bed pot best podcast in the universe. And she would like
some Swasey enough karma. Absolutely.
Well, I'll do the I'll close the segment with the karma since
it's all lessons we're at the end here as well. Right. That
was the last one. Yep.
You've got karma. Perfect.
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karma shout out to miss. Miss Mimi.
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church cloudy.
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good old No,
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We need a birthday shout out. I don't see him on the list. Yeah,
he's on the list. Okay, well, it's not colored yellow.
No. Well, it's it's not for no one no request. Nelson Mandela's
birthday be silver write it and put on the list. No, she's
deferring her donation
to men mandible. mandava
are you talking about? It's Noah says today's July 18 Nelson
Mandela's birthday. 95 years old also. I'm not reading this
right. The movement asked people to donate 67 minutes of their
time in reflection of the 67 years Mandela spent serving his
community, his country and the world. So here's $67 to oblige.
Happy birthday. Shout out to Mandela. Sometimes man demanded,
but Madaba I never know. Alright, whatever. But I liked
that. 67 And exactly one person did this.
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good. Was it wasn't Chris up there in Sherwood Park before
was it I don't know. The beginning of the spreadsheet.
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was Robert Gosh, go we got to we got to hit you guys in Sherwood
Park.
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donors that produced and help predict show 531. And
I see that Kyle also put in a is on a 33. Podcast license, so
make sure Kyle gets that as well. This is, so it is very
nice. Even this was of course disastrous for us. But that's a
matter because there's tons of dough out there now from the
government. And we can take that and we can just start going,
Hey, let's see. Do you think we will be able to slip it into
people you know, and we've we've been
able to deconstruct stuff so well, we should be able to
construct but do
you think we can just go like, hey,
hey, give us some money? I don't think so.
Like, I think it's okay for the TSA to check my car.
And we have ways of proving It's okay. Ah,
yes. I think it's a good it's good. I like feeling safe.
Better safe than sorry. How about you, John?
What else you're gonna do? You have to be the safe because if
you're not safe, then then the terrorists will kill you.
You can put this in the book. Read book. We're gonna have tons
tons of episodes where you've got CIA and NSA and all just all
kinds of pro together. Yes. Showing up showing up on your TV
shows everyone loves NCIS and all these Hawaii Five O and
whatever crap there is. By the way, Orange is the New Black.
Have you seen this? No. Oh, you should this is this is the new
Netflix series. You know about a women's prison.
Oh, yeah.
Let me let me tell you some. Absolutely astoundingly
fantastic. Why? It's just so good there. It's written by the
woman who wrote weeds I think and though it's just it's a kind
of a short term medium security prison first of all has a lot of
great realistic lesbian sex in it. Need I say more?
Well, yeah, you need to say more.
It's just a good show. It's a good show and it's free and I
just being a sex on some skin a man No, no, no, no, no, this is
lesbian sex. Like it really happens. This is the real deal.
Which is not at all corny. In fact, it's it's so real that
it's not really sexy. It's kind of weird in that in that
respect, but I will say I think if you look at the players we've
got Amazon who I don't know what they're doing they have $150
million fund somewhere that they're making something well I
don't know what you're doing with this crap I have no I've
never seen it never heard it. You have no idea go away. I'll
definitely rent some mainstream stuff from you. Then we have
Hulu which is owned by the idiot television house
I'm by the way will stream for you any of your people that have
the Amazon Prime account you get free and it's the only place I
know you can get it. Rubicon true.
Then we have HBO who I think are going to be the big losers and
all this because really if you look at what what Netflix is
doing releasing all the episodes in one go, you know that making
stuff that people want. If I were a betting man, I put my
money on them. I think that I think it's really good. It's
really an outstanding product they've put together here.
I think they're definitely making a move on things. And HBO
seems to be dropping the ball left and right. They lost. But
once they dropped the ball on Mad Men, yeah, it was a signal
that they they've lost whatever it is that they whatever Mojo
was when I assume as a person, because a lot of times you have
these, you know, meetings and there'll be five guys in a room
and then there's the one guy who's really not the head of the
meeting, but he's the smart guy he loves he's always submarines
things that should be submarine and green light stuff that
should and they got rid of him. Yeah.
And I don't know who's running the show over there. Netflix,
but someone's doing a great job. So guy, that guy from HBO.
HBO they brought him over.
Alright, so what we I guess what we're saying here is we need
your help. I think we have shown our value today we and it's not
even over yet. I still got a couple things that we've
dissected I see John's got some stuff we do this because now
everything you see everyone's gonna have the handout
everyone's gonna be oh, oh, Mr. Government gonna have some money
for that propaganda, cash. Propaganda pennies, bring it on
over here. Every television executive is going like this is
great. And it passed and you don't hear you know what? It's
funny. You don't hear the mainstream media talking about
this, where the next paycheck is coming from. So this is bad for
us. Well, we've seen here is very, very poor. We highly
appreciate the people who've stepped up super appreciate the
our one executive producer and our Associate Executive
producers. Thank you. So we also have to get through the summer.
And to prove that we're real about this stuff. I'm flying to
Europe tomorrow. And there will and I arrived Saturday morning
there's going to be a show Sunday, and it will not be any
less than normal. Except it'll be on the road
and you'll be taking your road gear.
This will be interesting to see how it goes. All right.org/and
Please help us out. We need all the help
Alright, so it's pretty short list. Damian Jones, Dame Joanie
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And not just a cool mom we got a lineup of stuff for you that you
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When he's ready. Thank you very much. Dame Joanie and welcome
sir max to the roundtable of the Knights here at the no agenda
show it'd be
kind of amusing what I mean at least would be kind of amusing
and a medicines I don't think it would be amusing. You definitely
wouldn't think it's amusing. So you go you're in Holland, you
get there to the hotel and you
check them already. And I think first of all, we're not at a
hotel where the air b&b.
Okay, you're at an air b&b And your whatever it is, it doesn't
make any difference to this story. So you show up, you get
over, say I'm going to check the gear out and you plug it in and
it goes pop, and a big cloud of smoke comes out of the box.
And this is funny why?
I don't know it just seems funny to me. I'm blown up things. I
did this with a with a router once and I saw I go to the hotel
and I got this router. And I needed it for to do some voice
stuff. And I plugged it in it goes pop. Yeah. And I go Wait,
what? Because it's a it's a Chinese thing. I look at it and
of all it's the only one I've ever seen that has one of those
little bricks that didn't have 241 20 Right 120 optic or for is
was overseas obviously. And it popped it and I went oh,
it's funny. You say that because since we're running on AC An AC
wall wart on this thing. I had to get a, which is the whole
reason why most companies do DC even though it's inferior as an
audio product, I had to get a 220 to 12 volt AC adapter going
from an AC to AC because you can't get a universal one.
Now that's a true you're not getting you're getting a true
adapter, which is a pretty good subset. You're not getting one
of just a converter.
No, it's a converter. It's a converter from 220 to fit to 12.
But it doesn't convert to DC it stays AC. And I had to order one
from Geneva. Oh, what? Yeah, no, no, no. Go ahead. Please. If you
find one in America, good luck. No, could not find one in
America. Oh, that's
right. They go the other way they went you get here? Yes,
exactly. Right. You can plug a. Right. Okay.
I think we need to look at Let me see. Yes, I think we need to
look at a little bit of science. This was very interesting. Over
on the BDCs, Ed Davey, who is the Minister of Energy and
Climate was on the show. And I know that I know the host
because I've seen him on stuff. I can't remember his name. And
he's actually it's the same show that Alex Jones was on. So you
know, it's kind of a propagandist show that whatever
they're saying, it may seem like this count count, you know,
point counterpoint. But really, it's, you know, it's just
propaganda. Right? And so is Ed Davy on and this guy's all in
his face about the climate change. But the message that is
being portrayed is a is a new one. And I think it's very
interesting that we pay attention to this because of
course, get more nation East beta test for the rest of the
world.
Davey, welcome. In the speech on June the second, you said that
healthy skepticism is part of the scientific process. Then a
couple of weeks later, you described anybody who challenged
the climate change consensus as crackpots and conspiracy
theorists,
which, by the way, I resemble that remark. What
is it? What do
you think we should also always challenge the scientists
science? Of course, we should. There's a healthy debate amongst
degrees.
I love always studying through this otherwise, but the
vast majority of climate change, scientists believe that climate
change is happening. And that manmade activity is causing it.
So it's a tiny number to vazee. Believe
97%.
What's a tiny number? I mean, what does it give us numbers and
statistics. So
I'm not here to be a crackpot and a conspiracy theorist, I'm
here to show you the messaging. So you can recognize it
t is causing it. So it's a tiny number of people who believe
that it's not happening and that man isn't
responsible. Alright, everyone who doesn't believe raise your
hand without talking for it.
And I have to say, I agree with President Obama. And in his
recent speech, when he said, We don't need another meeting of
the Flat Earth Society to tackle climate change, and I agree with
him. Alright, so
the Flat Earth Society does exist, and they believe in
climate change. Yes. Yeah. We read Breitbart, too. Okay. So
saying, just remind them Yeah,
wait, thank you. Yeah, you're right. Sometimes I forget that
not everyone reads what the vast amount that we read. So that's
the setup. So this, this shows that this is obviously all in
we're all into President Obama. This is a whole thing. Everyone
agrees sciences in saying take
the the Chief Scientist, the government who's just stepped
down to John Beddington, you and I through our taxes pay for
these scientists. He said in his speeches, he left the the
evidence was unequivocal right on the chip, the guy, the guy
who left if scientists in my department, Professor David
MacKay, is of a similar view. So I have to say the science is on
the side that we need to take action. Unless just your
accounts hang on for a second, let's just imagine that the huge
majority of scientists are a huge majority wrong. And let's
just say the climate change deniers are right, do you think
it's sensible? We gamble that we say well, actually, even though
most of the scientists say it's happening, we should ignore that
I say that we take a cautious approach. And just as you and
the many others, I hope all your viewers insure their houses
against a very unlikely chance of fire burning the house down.
I think, given the risks of climate change are much greater,
with more devastating human humankind, we should actually
invest in a little insurance policy surance
surance. John, let me ask you a question. If it's about climate
change, I'm not interested because only off chance that
maybe maybe maybe I'm wrong. I just want some insurance for the
earth.
What about that logic also applies to global cooling? It
Correct. Which is why we take insurance on global cooling
Well, global cooling is also called win number of the
original global coolest are now sticking to their guns. I mean,
some of the flip over to the mind, which is the global.
You asked me a question. Okay. Global warming and global
cooling are both caused by evil people. global cooling is caused
by people. So do we need to insure against people?
Yeah, we should shoot everyone. So we want to hear more. Yeah,
some of the global coolest have been on AI. And of course, one
of the Theses of this show just an off handed thesis, which is
that the warm mists are trying to get us to trigger global
cooling with their ideas to kill off the population worldwide
population because they really do want. Most of the same people
want to have a smaller. We want to have a smaller population of
humans who would kill humans, we want to get down to 500,000.
The Georgia Guidestones exactly. Okay, so you've now taken this
tool. I mean, once you throw in Elders of Zion or something,
just throw that in protocols.
They actually believe in warming.
Let's finish up Ed Davey here. I'm afraid you're
not sticking with that one bit of information when this Andrew
Neil is the guy's name plateau started to develop and some
academics are here he
is he is very funny because he says look it look at this, the
the the temperatures have plateaued, it seems like this
plateau will continue until 2020. So you know, clearly co2
is not following the temperatures not following co2.
So this your models are wrong, what are we going to do
about it? And 2006, the people who advise you, such as Phil
Jones at the Climate Research Unit, University of East Anglia,
again, a world centric, famous as he described, the idea of a
plateau is nonsense and stupid. The method was denied that a
plateau was even happening. And
Andrew, that's why as I said in my met speech, which you read
out a few minutes ago, I think we should have healthy
skepticism in within the climate change site. Why? Because
climate science is incredibly complicated. Oh, it's
incredibly, is incredibly, new science is new science. new,
innovative, innovative, innovative job, innovative
science. It's new models, innovative
science, and science. And no one actually, if you talk to the
climate change scientists, including the people you
mentioned, none of them actually say we know everything, for
sure.
happened to the sciences in what do you say? Is it not possible?
Of
course they don't. A few scientists ever say anything to
you. But the question is, would you be would you be prepared? Is
any government prepared to take a gamble on the writer of our
planet,
you want to insure the planet called Lloyds of London, same
bull crap. Like, by the way, this is the meme, the meme, the
remainders, you're describing the visit the meme logic that we
have floating around on all kinds of issues. And I would say
that TSA Homeland Security means the same thing, the same thing.
We have to do this, because why take a chance that the
terrorists will kill you. So yeah, head toward the, you know,
the non. Yes, non risk society. And that's what he's saying.
It's the same thing. It's the same theme that's non risk
society. Yes. When there was achieved by out and out fascism.
And the so what you've proven by this clip, is that the
globalists, the global warming cysts are all fascists? Yeah,
like and yes,
they are. Absolutely. It is truly disgusting. Truly, I mean,
to say, Okay, well, maybe they're wrong, you know, okay,
you found oops, found me out, because essentially what he's
saying, Yeah, I know, the guys who said that. And I was saying
this, and like, I don't know, but that's, you know, wouldn't
you want to take a risk? I mean, seriously, do you want to take a
risk of burning up? It's exactly what it is. It's very, very sad.
I have the way it is the way it works. I
have a fun commercial for us of a new product. And this product
will be coming out this flu season. And they have a podcast
and they've got a whole social media campaign. They got the
government money. Well, this Yeah. Well, we know that when it
comes to a vaccine, you don't have to worry about anything.
Because if people die or whatever from your from your
vaccine is nope, nope, no, no skin off my bones, literally.
This is a new vaccine, and I think it's worth listening to
their social media distributed commercial.
Okay, we get it. You've already been told you need to get the
flu shot. But you're healthy, right? You'd never even gotten
the flu before. Or maybe you have, but you're only
talking at and it sounds like Christopher Hayes.
Maybe it is
his big deal. So why should you care about Flublok I'd like to
share a very sad and True story with you.
Okay, this is the same mean. Okay, this is the exact same
meme as you just want to make sure this is flu block.
Katie Taylor, a healthy High School senior was excited about
graduating and pursuing her dream of becoming a
veterinarian. She was fighting the flu when she became
dehydrated and was hospitalized. On February 3, how
bad is this? How do you hear the audio on this thing is horrible
is really bad. Monica D back in
2011, and died as a result of complications from the flu. I
know what you're thinking, This must have just been a freak
occurrence. But this isn't as uncommon as you might think.
According to the CDC, each year 32,000 otherwise healthy adults
between the ages of 18 and 49 are hospitalized due to
complications in the flow of those 680 result in death. Get
it through your head. No one is invincible, not even you. Plus
you don't wanna get grandma sick, or the kids or a stranger
you meet at the grocery store, it gets better. Even if they
don't end up in the hospital. That's just rude.
And it's just rude. It's rude getting grandma's anyway,
let me tell you about flu block. Flu block is just different.
It's just different. Just don't worry about it. It's just
different. flowback protects you against
the seasonal flu, just like all the other flu vaccines. It's
still a shot, and it still hurts. But it's different. Let
me explain differently. Flu block is made of highly purified
proteins. middle line flu viruses are ever used during the
production process.
Okay, this is what I don't
understand. Do crap. Exactly. It has
no it's a vaccine that has no virus in it. How does this work?
Well, it
actually does have a virus in it. Let me just read there from
the
from the flu block website blue block. Flu blog is
the first trans Vaillant influenza vaccine made using an
insect virus baculovirus expression system and
recombinant DNA tech. So in other words, they're taking an
insect virus, and they're doing a kind of a manipulation,
genetic manipulation on it, and then shooting you up with that.
But it's a winner and it hurts.
Wow. I would I would wait about 10 years
before you actually use this. But you look at the their their
social media campaign. They're all over the place. It's a big
deal.
Oh, people don't ever look into anything. So there's okay.
I thought on Twitter must be good. new executive order came
out John, which we need to discuss new executive order. And
you know me when there's an executive order, I love to read
it. Indeed, this is a very disturbing one. This is number.
This. They don't do numbers anymore.
Ah Hi. That weird.
It's came out July 15. Executive Order HIV Care Continuum
Initiative. Continuum. What does continuum mean?
It means it means it's actually the process of continuation,
continuing a world in and of itself. It's the continuum.
Interesting, it's you spell it co NTINUUM, continuing new M
continuum. Continuum. Okay. This is a very frightening one. I
find for a number of reasons because it involves Obamacare,
and how that is going to be implemented. It's it's, it's so
transparent and not even hiding it anymore. Well, no
one reads these things.
I know, I know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm doing it again.
Executive Order accelerating improvements in HIV prevention
and care in the United States through the HIV Care Continuum
Initiative. By the authority vested in me as president by the
Constitution and the laws of the United States of America and in
order to further strengthen the capacity of the federal
government to effectively respond to the ongoing domestic
HIV epidemic. It is hereby ordered as follows. Now, let's
just talk about the word epidemic. What does the word
epidemic mean?
Means it's, you know, what it means?
Now, let's This is very specific words matter. Okay, well, let's
look at epidemics spreading rapidly and extensively by
infection and affecting many individuals in an area or
population at the same time and epidemic outbreak of influenza
widely prevalent, an outbreak of a contagious disease that
spreads rapidly and widely. Right. Well, that's
what it says.
Now, let's look at the CDC the same government who was putting
out this executive order facts fast facts on HIV in the United
States. Ah 49,273 people diagnosed in 2011 with HIV V
infection in this is the actually it stays the same the
number of people living with HIV, while the number annual
number of new HIV infections has remained relatively stable, but
wait a minute, it's an it's an epidemic yet
mmm yummy an epidemic? Yeah, it
remains relatively stable.
It doesn't make sense. It's not an epidemic.
Well, let's read on the executive order. Section one
policy, addressing the domestic HIV epidemic is a priority of my
administration. In 2010, the White House released the first
comprehensive national HIV AIDS strategy, setting quantitative
goals for reducing new HIV infections, which there are no
new HIV infections. It's about the same improving health
outcomes for people living with HIV and reducing the HIV related
health disparities. The strategy will continue to serve as the
blueprint for our national response to the domestic
epidemic. It's an epidemic John, which is not I'm sorry, it's
it's a lie. It's not an epidemic. Well, there's
some obvious reason to call it an epidemic.
It has increased coordination, collaboration and accountability
across executive departments and agencies with regard to
addressing the epidemic Siamese hunting and uses. It has also
focused our nation's collective efforts on increasing the use of
evidence based approaches Be careful evidence to prevention
and care prevention among populations and in regions where
HIV is most concentrated. I remind you, this is an executive
order, okay. Based on these and other data, I'm jumping around a
little bit. Recommendations for HIV testing and treatment have
changed new information people. The US Preventive Services Task
Force now recommends that clinicians screen all
individuals, ages 15 to 65 for HIV. And the Department of
Health and Human Services Guidelines for use of anti
retroviral agents now recommends offering treatment to all
adolescents and adults diagnosed with HIV. This is in the next
the next paragraph. Furthermore, ongoing implementation of the
Affordable Care Act, Obamacare provides a historic opportunity
for Americans to access affordable quality health care,
the ACA is expanding access to recommended preventative
services with no out of pocket costs, including HIV testing. Oh
my gosh, and beginning to this affording insurance, this is
fantastic. You will be forced my friends to get an AIDS test.
Free
Free.
This is very, very, very disturbing. This is an executive
order. This is not like just a little memo. This is an
executive order that says the recommendations have changed
everyone so between 15 and 65 By the way, if you're if you're 65
or older, you don't count because you don't have sex
apparently anymore.
Tell that to Anthony Quinn
I'm very disturbed by this
how you should be they're gonna force grab your blood, give you
an HIV test whether you want it or not, you have not had risky
sex yet. And they're gonna take your DNA and put that in a
catalogue to why not and put your
phone number on the test tube?
Why not? Yeah,
why not? You know why? Because it's better to be a child's
life. Better to be safe than sorry. Yeah. Yeah, no and of
course DNA gram I'm not going to get into the the entire debate
about the difference between HIV and AIDS and what my personal
thoughts are on the extensive study I've done you can take a
look at the you know, the guy who apparently found the HIV
virus now denounces the whole thing. So this so, at best this
is an insurance scam which of course everyone else will be
paying for because it whoa, go get an AIDS test HIV What are
you free free? And yeah, you're right. Put your get your DNA
prize like they do with everything else would be free,
but not cheap, but it'd be free. You know, somebody soaks up the
money and they take the day. I think the DNA has got to be in
that deal. Why not? Yeah, it's not worth the trouble to just do
an AIDS test on everybody unless you get some of the other stuff
out and see what else it guys get.
Exactly. That everything while you're at it.
You can't take a chance.
I can't wait to get to Europe. Saturday morning.
Oh, it's gonna be horrible over there. Well, that's
why I'll feel I know whenever I'm aware that I'm so
appreciative of living here.
Yeah. And all we do is carp. Isn't that amazing?
Yeah. Great article. You don't Americans. Did you? Unsubscribe
from the paper edition of The New York Times?
I unsubscribe from the Yes, I did. It stands for the Sunday
edition which I'll there's a
great a great op ed. And you can get it online of course it's in
the show notes from the grandfather.
By the way, stop before you go on with it asked me why I
stopped subscribing to the paper and
you Shawn, why did you stop subscribing to the paper edition
of The New York Times?
It's too much paper. You get it? You feel guilty. I mean, I owe
these trees and you don't read about you read maybe one or two
of them a week May
and the papers sit around the house of the noise and it stacks
up. I know. I know. There's a great op ed by the grandfather
of the 16 year old kid that got droned are Lucky's Yeah, they
grant you that guy. Yeah, it's great opposite. It's like he's
an actually it's on New York Times. Like it's pretty much
like Screw you hold or something
going on. With the New York Times in the Obama
administration? Yeah, well,
they they fell out of love. Because the Obama administration
didn't go to them with all the bullcrap NSA stuff, they gave it
to the Brits. They give it to the Guardian and to the post,
the post doesn't really count. That's what's going on. That's
why they're angry. Like, Hey, hold on a second. How come we
don't get on a on the gravy train? I got Glenn Greenwald
doesn't even live in America gets all this. That's what I
would. That's the way I see it.
And I think it started before that. I think that I think when
after it started, that's the result is they got cut out. I
think it began before that. And I think that what you're
describing was just the result of the divorce.
Well, you know, they got the new BBC guy running the show now.
Well, he may have something to do with it. Could be
he's the guy. He's the guy that left the Director General. He
left the BBC during the time. The New York Times really who
cares? I'm so done with the New York Times didn't say that.
But there's still if you were working a little local radio
station someplace, they won't run stories unless they showed
up in the New York Times now. It's really pathetic. Talk about
the drug business. I do have a clip. I thought were really
overproduced clip from China TV. They're going to Chinese have
gone into this mode of like attacking anyone who's bribes,
bribes, all bribes are bad. And even though this whole
government the whole place is structured around bribes, but
the GlaxoSmithKline has got their kitna ringer over there.
And apparently they've had their tent in the ringer glad this
company that they can't seem to do any of this right. And this
package, which I thought was really I don't know who produced
this package. I do not believe it's possible that the Chinese
central casting Chinese TV could have done this but the claim is
made that it is I think it came from someplace else but it's
actually a pretty good little summary.
The British based drugmaker GlaxoSmithKline is mired in
scandal again, Chinese authorities say the company has
been running an enormous bribery network for the past six years,
involving some 700 Chinese middlemen. The goal they say was
to boost drug sales and raise the price of its medicines in
China. For senior executives from GSK China are being held.
The suspects are believed to have collaborated with travel
agencies to funnel bribes to doctors and officials by
creating fake conference services. A vice president of
GSK China confessed the costs of the large bribes would
eventually be passed on to patients through higher medicine
prices.
These allegations are shameful, and we regret that this has
occurred. We will cooperate fully with the Chinese
authorities in their investigation and will take all
necessary action required.
However, this is not the first bribery case involving GSK has
been punished in the past for commercial bribery in the United
States, New Zealand and Italy. In July 2012, the drug Giant was
fined 3 billion US dollars for criminal and civil charges of
health care fraud in the US. GSK is not the only foreign company
that's been investigated by China in the past few months.
European food group Nestle and unknown, were also targeted,
being accused of price fixing. At a press conference on
Wednesday, China's Ministry of Commerce expressed its
determination to regulate the commercial industry and optimize
the investment environments. So go to four sichenzia fundamental
question. So to
sum up China's standard bribery in the business sector.
Companies which conduct illegal business in the Chinese market
will have to be responsible for their activities no matter if
it's Chinese or foreign companies. China will carry on
its opening up policy that's unchanged. The case shows
China's determination and efforts made to optimize its
investment environment.
I love these stories because here's how you can make the
package the Chinese minister of Cultural Affairs at the no
agenda show absolutely must be is required listening for all
Chinese will tiny out Jia Jia Qing she furthermore said I mean
that's how you do it.
Yeah, that was work. This package, I believe was done by a
different drug could No
kidding. It even has this drug company music. Yeah. It's like,
what do we have in the library? I think I got some, some
leftover from that vaccine that didn't work out. I can use that
one.
I've been watching Chinese news for a long time on these
networks. And I have never heard a packing slip. That is pretty
it was well cod. And they had the stooge from GlaxoSmithKline,
which sounds like a great PR. We're stunned by these
allegations. I'm gonna do what we can to stop it.
And I have one on in China,
I have one last little little ditty from New York. Now, for
the past six weeks, I finally gave up. It's in the show notes
for the last show, the GAO, the Government, accounting office,
whatever accountability accountability office came out
with the report that all the money that was raised for Haiti,
almost none of it went to Haiti. Okay. I've been saying three red
books, almost on four years now that I've, you know, we've been
I've it's, I'm so tired of the Haiti so I'm your Haitian,
sorry, you lose. Now, when we had Superstorm Sandy, not care
to categorize as a hurricane, even though people are now
calling it a hurricane. There was not categorized that way to
screw people out of insurance. We had this organization set up
by hedge fund managers, called the Robin Hood Foundation, and
they went out and they raised all this money. And they had a
concert. Remember, we had a big concert at Madison Square Garden
concert, change my icon go to
the concert. Anytime there's a concert, you know, there's a
scam.
And we looked at the Robin Hood Foundation who are incredibly
wealthy. And they don't actually give the money to people who are
standing there with their house broken. No, they give it to I
think most of the wood we count like 90 Little nonprofits all
over the place. Yeah. But here here nonprofits, this is The
Nonprofit culture of America, which is just a whole bunch of
people sucking off someone else's teat. Right. It's really
quite
a fact by the way, we are not
a nonprofit. No, we are not another way we pay you cannot go
to the government and say I don't have no agenda. Let me
take that off my taxes that will not work. Because we pay the
taxes for you. You see. That does that the way it works?
Apparently. Here is a report that came out that is a it's a
local story. You probably won't hear about it because you know
we all feel good. We feel good we change our icon you know we
feel bad for everyone and the Jersey Shore Jersey strong. I
feel bad for everybody in New York and we all gave money and
you know the Robin Hood that Robin Hood man they take from
the rich and they give to
within days of Superstorm Sandy making landfall last October, a
number of charitable organizations started collecting
donations from kind hearted souls freely giving their monies
to help with Sandy relief effort.
If you're a kind hearted soul hold on to your balls
or so they thought. This morning New York Attorney General Eric
Schneiderman announced that a huge amount of those donated
funds have yet to be filtered to Sandy victims. Oh,
Billie Jean, you
don't say I am stunned by this knowledge. So
intended. This is about transparency. This is about
accountability. This is about us all. Understanding that the
money goes where the donors intended and the relief is
delivered effectively and efficiently.
Schneiderman is Office found that 89 charities raised more
than half a billion dollars
these are these are all the never gonna mention the name of
course. But these these charities, they didn't raise any
money. They got the money from the Robin Hood Foundation by
April only 57% of that had been given in Sandy relief, leaving
at least 238 million still in the hands of those nonprofits.
238 million. We could use that money. I could use 1%
and not in the hands of Sandy victims. Our light whole lives
and Breezy Point queens were more than 350 homes were
destroyed during Sandy
people to try to rebuild these homes. They need the assistance
because in many cases, they did not get support to FEMA, and in
many cases, they had no insurance or the insurance
proceeds were small. While they are fighting with insurance
companies.
The biggest fundraiser was the American Red Cross.
This is very interesting because they don't say the biggest
fundraiser was the Robin Hood Foundation. They say it was the
Red Cross and here's the Red Cross with their mantra which is
why I despise the Red Cross with about
300 million and Sandy relief. They say that all donations
specified for Sandy relief or in fact done so Schneiderman says
at least 17 organizations report that they may use Sandy
donations for non Sandy purposes, including future
disasters.
Yeah, which don't worry, we'll hold on to that for you for the
next time. You're in trouble.
Yeah, little late. So Sure, which is fun. Yeah. Yeah, like
maybe a fun maybe a hedge fund or something. And one of the
guys who raised the money initially Robin Hood Foundation.
Yeah, I don't know.
But New York State Senator Joseph a double says that is a
problem. We asked
those who have retained the money. Did he say X? Did he
really say X?
Sounds like you said X? I gotta listen to
this, like, what does he see Senator? What does he know some
problem we asked those who ever tasted money to do the right
thing. Get the money out to the intended beneficiaries, which
are the victims of Hurricane Sandy. Yeah,
no. So again, you were being robbed by douchebags and elites
and people who just have nothing better to do. We're pretending
No,
I take nothing ever comes of it.
Take me out on a high note baby. I'm depressing myself here.
You know I gotta find some funny clips I have found
we have nothing funny anymore. It's just it's I know it's
but that's why maybe the donations are down. There's no
sense of humor left because we were going with the well let's
play this then. We got Mort Zuckerman was on the stupid
McLaughlin. Oh, yeah, all these guys are all being a trader. And
Pat Buchanan is the worst of the group. By the way this guy ran
is just a quasi conservative libertarian, the guy cares
nothing about any sort of law and order any any belief in the
Constitution. In fact, if you want to know he's pushing, he's
been pushing for years for a constitutional convention to
rewrite the Constitution. So this guy's really bad. But
listen to this Zuckerman character. He's so out of it.
And it's like, why is it? Why is this guy even on the air?
And what is the topic here of Zuckerman,
Zuckerman on Snowden?
First, let me say Snowden is not a Muslim, I want to make that
clear. One of the most serious things that has happened to the
United States, because we had intelligence on any number of
potential attacks on the United States by common consent, at
least 50 of them, okay. And I will say what I've said before
on this program, if we were in a situation where people were able
to where we were unable to interdict those attacks, and we
started to get attacks like we had in Boston, every month or
every two months, this country would be totally changed. So I
think the government has the right to do what they think is
necessary and appropriate under the circumstances to try and
protect this country from those kinds of
protect, you just want to have insurance to protect yourself.
You don't want it to go to shit. Now
it's about this funniest thing I could find.
Yeah, that was hilarious. I feel great now. Thanks. Okay. All
right. So let's summarize donations low. No funny clips.
We're doomed.
To get funny.
What? We better get funny
just to be hilarious. This is an entertainment show.
Oh, wow. All sudden,
you said news dirty. Oh, I went to the crapper. Yeah,
what are you doing? Nothing.
Nothing changed. happens at a certain hour.
That's weird. Did you get an ad or have you now paid for your
Skype?
Hello. I can't hear you. Really? Really? It's
completely gone now?
No, no, I can hear you but I just I haven't paid for my
Skype. Okay.
All right, John. The next time we speak if we are lucky, I will
be in Gitmo nation lowlands, we are literally stopping in
Amsterdam. So I have a safe place to do the show before
going on our vacation, which will be to shows off next week.
So we're bringing this to you. Because we feel we have to do
it.
But we're going to run a show on both those days.
Yeah, well, that too. But But Sunday, we're going to have an
actual show. Right? Well, those other shows are actual Yeah, but
that will be a live show. Right with live stuff. Zach. Hey,
everybody in the morning. I'm Adam curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley. That is I'm John C.
Dvorak. We'll talk to
you again on Sunday from two different continents right here
on no agenda.
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