Glenn Greenwald is out there and he's the Hitman Adam curry,
John C. Dvorak. Sunday, July
14 2013. Time for your Gitmo nation media assassination
episode 530. This
is no agenda, changing my icon
to reflect my apathy here on the trimas high tide out in Austin
Tejas couple of the drone stars state in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley asking the question, what is the
color of apathy? I'm John C. Dvorak.
Buzzkill. Does it matter?
Well, hello, monomer I think you owe me is does it matter? It
doesn't
matter. Modem I think you owe me $1. Off bull. What do you mean?
This? I said there would be no riots.
It was a riot in Oakland. 100 people
burning a container is not a riot, John,
windows, though. There's more. What do you define as a riot?
Like,
LA riots come on the riot? Right? Those were exceptional.
Oh, now we're gonna get technical, please. I was right.
I was right. There's no riots that you had 100 People in
Oakland. And that's it.
And there's another one scheduled today.
Boy,
okay, keep your dollar and San Francisco.
Those are there's not riots. They don't schedule a riot. This
schedule a protest march.
You know who's behind this? I get the biggest kick out of
watching this because they have the printed signs.
Oh, it this is the whole thing is so disgusting. But please
give me this then keep your dollar. It certainly didn't pan
out the way they hoped it would?
Well, I think anyone who actually followed the trial
might be you know, little unshocked by the results.
Well, not the results of the trial there was I'm saying the
results of people getting angry and taking to the streets. I
think that this has shown that we are a nation of a pathetic
couchpotato who do not care and who will not go x actually go
out and let our voices be heard on the street. It does not
happen on there.
I disagree completely. There's a lot of people that want their
voices to be heard on the street. In fact, I have a clip.
Play the clip s f idiots on the street, respond to Zimmerman and
there's some great really a fantastic analysis here.
Demonstrators say This trial has stirred up plenty of emotions.
It's a son, it's a brother. Many more family members, black brown
communities have to be targeted before they identify this is a
racist system, quite frankly.
The young black man, Trayvon Martin was put on trial for his
own murder. I think it was really unfair. He's free and he
actually killed Trayvon Martin for nothing.
killed Trayvon Martin for nothing.
That's you don't have the right clip? Man. You don't have it.
I'm sorry. You don't have the right clip. Do you want the
clip? You want the clip here? Brother? I'm there. All right,
Jesse Jackson. All right.
Are you ready, brother always a top.
Stand back. You know, first we got to get into, you know how
the justice system has failed. You know, apparently he wasn't
watching any any court proceedings. But he ends it with
just a beaut. You know, first question, obviously, what
was your reaction to this verdict?
Frankly, I am. I'm standing over this grace, this tremendous
miscarriage of justice.
Isn't that great? Right there. I'm like, Okay. Keep it going.
Jesse.
The the
what would the appropriate term be John? Not miscarriage of
justice. Clearly, although that's a title right there. What
what is the what is the proper term?
I'm an idiot sign Jesse.
When the jury says not guilty. He's at least guilty of murder.
No, no, I'm sorry. That when the jury says not guilty, he's at
least guilty of murder, just so you know,
I'm man racially pursuing and profiling a young African
American boy and kills him. And in this case, the the prosecutor
denied, should I say ignored the matter of race. And the defense,
trying to deny that the fact of the matter is this is a pattern
of behavior towards young African American men. And what
did this grant in Oakland, the ILO in New York or Trayvon
Martin in in Florida, okay, get ready for it. And it's very
painful.
Reverend, I want to ask you about the makeup of the jury.
You tweeted this after the verdict was handed down. You
tweeted the jury, no black and no men was always suspect. Do
you feel that this affected the outcome the makeup of the jury
Free Will
was a stretch trying to avoid the obvious that there was no of
your speak of a jury of your peers that was no man on the
jury and trade one was was a black boy. There was no, no man
no black on the jury. So at least the idea of a juror
appears was was a stretch all the while.
Okay, let me just explain to the Reverend Jesse Jackson. It is
typically not the the the person who's dead, or the or the
prosecution, it is the defendant who gets the jury of peers that
is this and no mention, by the way from this fine MSNBC person
that he's insane.
do while you're Jesse. Yeah. I mean, he's sitting there saying
Trayvon Martin did not haven't even seen any of the trial
doesn't didn't follow John, did you even
hear what he said? I don't think you
heard it. What do you say?
He says that there was no jury of peers for Trayvon that there
should have been said. Yeah, but that's not you get a jury. The
point you're making but most people don't even hear this this
stupid MSNBC woman didn't even hear it.
She What do you MSNBC we had a guy here's here's a black
lawyer, a very famous civil rights attorney have been around
forever, kind of sums it up. He's not upset by this in the
least name is John Burris and he's in the San Francisco Bay
Area. And then he says as far as I'm concerned, this summarizes
the whole thing.
Oakland based civil rights attorney John Burris said he was
not surprised by the Zimmerman verdict. He spoke to ABC Seven
News Tonight, the prosecution put on a witness that said that
there was a fight that was taking place look like a fight
the Trayvon was on top of Mr. Zimmerman, that the prosecution
put that witness on that witness turned out to be a better
witness for the defense and in my own view, ultimately, was the
linchpin of the defense's case. Right. And yeah, this only leads
me to believe
that the whole thing was rigged and the prosecution was out to
lunch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I stand here the latest thing at
the very end, they started doing all kinds of crazy things like
they want to add some some charges, including child abuse.
Yeah,
that was good. That was excellent. So a couple things
about this. And I really wholeheartedly disagree. I
really well, I disagree that that we have seen riots. I mean,
yeah, there's you know, there's people protesting and marching
and last night yeah, some people burned some stuff. But you know,
that more happens when the winner la basket when the
basketball team wins.
That's the point you should have made to begin with.
All right, but but so just that and that isn't even classified
as a riot. It's just like people celebrating celebratory action
and
starting over cop cars. torching them. No, I
wouldn't I didn't even turn over a cop car they painted on by
during the battle. Right, right. Right. Yeah. Because they, they
bid like f the police or whatever is what they paint it
so. So there were no real riots. This is, in my mind, actually a
very, very sad day for the United States. Because we cannot
even get the population of the United States of Gitmo nation
who actually have a real reason to write it because they're
living in squalor and poverty and racial profiling and all
kinds of bull crap that happens in the in the lower class lower
class sections of our society that we don't really talk about
don't really see certainly don't talk about all the real violence
that goes on there on a daily basis and no one really even
they can bring themselves to get up and get angry about it so
that's it's us
right? So this is all the damage well, lower classes have never
risen up. Can I Can I mention something here before you get
carried away with all this pontificating? i This to me was
always a local story. At the fact that anybody's even
lighting you can have trash and I do owe you $1 In Oakland is
ludicrous to me what's not a local Auckland's got nothing to
do with what's going on in locally in Florida. We should
even care. This thing was blown out of proportion by Al Sharpton
and Jesse Jackson. He helped out Yeah, he helped out. I did get
one clip that I was kind of happy about last night that that
I thought was a really this was a local story. A local news
report. The in Florida about what what the response was to
the verdict.
Tallahassee resident Caleb Ross is on his way to a voting rights
rally at the Florida capitol. But he's chosen a different way
to rally for Trayvon Martin. He's changed his profile picture
on the social website, Instagram to all black. I feel like it's a
good cause. I feel like it's very innovative for for the
youth to do that. And I see a lot of my collegiate peers doing
the same thing all around the nation. black squares are
popping up all over Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, Trayvon
supporters who are changing their profile pics to black are
calling it a blackout. That's a good way to rally for Trayvon.
Some online posting comments argue that using social media in
this case is pointless. In the blackout, it has no bearing on
the trial window McGehee is on the fence about whether to
change his picture. I don't think it
makes a big difference. I mean, we warn hoodies, we walk around
with Skittle wrappers and soda cans.
This Facebook post says
because he would remember he was just drinking some some iced tea
and soda cans. You
know, a blank picture won't change the verdict. Just as a
pink ribbon won't cure cancer,
exactly support. You never know what impact it could possibly
have. But
this is an I have to say I think that's kind of where it started.
This really is the pre social networking. We had the red aids
with the red aids ribbon. And that was cut. I think that must
have been the start. John, don't you think we had the red
ribbon, a yellow ribbon around the old oak trees where it
started during
so Tony Orlando is to blame for all this.
I honestly believe that's true. The Bill Moyers is that because
the ribbon that was the first red Minister Mia or something
like that it was a yellow ribbon. Yeah, well, it's when
you can home tie a yellow ribbon. And then the little aids
ribbon became a like a like an iconic ribbon, and then it was
stuck on it. And I think that I still, I would trace it back to
20. Oh, Lando,
there was a point in when I was still in mainstream douchebag
douchebaggery in a minor celebrate it on the scale, that
you could not go really to any public function. Certainly not
an award show. But you kind of couldn't go to anything if you
didn't have a red ribbon. In fact, there would be people at
the door like Oh, Adam, hi, yeah, welcome. Here. We've got
your ribbons, right.
Is this true?
It's absolutely true.
So you got called out for not having a bunch of decoration?
Well, they
didn't call me out, but they would pull me aside. We've got a
ribbon for you here. Kind of like when you go to the
Princeton club, you don't have a ton, right? Yeah.
They have a piece of crap tie.
I have done that a couple of times, too. And the for
instance, we have to wear an orange tie. It's really stupid.
And on the Bill Moyers Journal there's a guy who was
interviewed and I this may not be coincidence that this aired
this weekend. Marty Kaplan, are you familiar with this guy,
Marty Caplan
name rings a bell, but he wrote a book
and so they kind of lead in looking at the riots in Brazil.
Those are riots by the way. And I might want to point out
there's some actual writing going on in Northern Ireland for
the past two days. You know, like 3040 Cops are wounded you
know, that's some rioting right there. That's real right?
You have a you have a little checklist
of what what what a riot is? Yeah, I think I think if the
cops are down and
we need to put together the official no agenda riot official
riot checklist.
Good idea. Let me just look at the book of knowledge for no
one's
ever done that.
Riot wiki pedia. Let's see, we can look there and see what the
Wikipedia says. Riot is a form of civil disorder characterized
often by what is thought of see already it's slippery slope as
disorganized groups lashing out in sudden and intense rash of
violence against authority property or people.
So I looked at the signage that these Oakland guys are all
carrying a very beautifully printed obviously took a you
know, some time before the trial was like, okay, yeah, of course,
it says that that old group answer. And if you track it
down, it's that old group answer a dot N dot S, you know, these
guys used to be in all these demonstrations, and it's
actually the world's so world's Workers Party out in New York.
Oh, really? Yeah. Ah, okay. So the so is that a union?
The world's Workers Party? No, it's just a straight up
socialist front. Okay. There's no union that I know of involved
within any of these guys. And they have offices all over the
place with all with different monikers. It's just a sleazebag
operation. I think I'm sorry.
I think you're onto something that we should have the no
agenda riot checklist. And I think certainly if you have
printed signs, it's by definition cannot be a riot.
Would you agree? Yep.
I'll put that on the list. Okay. So
printed signs. No good has to be handwritten. You will there are
certain levels, I think there has to be a percentage of cops
have to be wounded.
This is where our checklist goes to pot because those guys are
encouraging hitting cops.
Here's Marty Kaplan. And he starts off in response with Bill
here about which is really what it's about is why the United
States is a nation of icon changers. Tell me at any moment
when you're tired of hearing him. It's only a minute or so.
But it's pretty much what we've always been saying.
Welcome. Thanks very much,
and congratulations on those awards. Yes. Thank
you. Thank you recently, words we will never hear John.
Congratulations on all those awards. confessed to outrage
envy. What's that about?
It's my feeling that what happened in Brazil, which is so
encouraging about citizens taking their destiny in their
own hands is not happening here.
We were held on a second. Is this Liberace talking? Yeah,
exactly.
ployment and hunger and crumbling infrastructure and tax
system out of whack and a corrupt political system? Why
are we not also taking to the streets is the question, and I
want us to you wrote, If you're not outraged, you're not paying
attention. So are we not paying attention? We are paying
attention to the wrong things. We are paying attention to
infotainment, which is being spoon fed to us. And sadly,
frankly, we are enabling because we love the stuff.
The infotainment the narrative of life in America, you call
Yes. The tragedy of journalism now is that it is demand driven.
And when you ask people what they want, we're like one of
those rats that have a lever to push and cocaine comes out. And
once that happens one time,
by the way, where is that lever is coming? I'll sign up. Can I
come with a set of vending machines going to be a part of
my Google Glass where I just press it and cocaine?
That sounds like the next ad on
Google Play just like tilt your eyes up like that and the Koch
comes out while you're watching? Honey BooBoo, I can go for that.
So this is it's actually it's very entertaining to watch.
Unfortunately, you're about halfway into it. And then he
goes into you know, the President talked about climate
change and no one was outraged and like, okay, really the way
these guys they always do it. So but this does bring some because
he goes into journalism. This does bring some very interesting
topics to the forefront and something that happened in the
midst of all this, of all this hullabaloo is well, there was a
little report that came out that I don't think got a lot of
attention, if any at all and the announcement of I didn't even
know it myself. Until I had my my daily viewing of spokes whole
Kearney because this is the stuff we do. We watch this
stuff. We watched the press briefings and
what I got another video running on my sky
No. What is it this time?
audience.tv
Why don't you sign up for his retirement? Why don't you sign
up for
like Skype calling Good. Do me. Is that going to eliminate this
crap? Yes,
I think I think if you sign up for a Skype calling plan when
you just put like five bucks on it. They eliminate. There's
someone sent me a link about
getting on my nerves.
Well, hello, you took the free shiny trinket you've got to take
the
dog cut you so you've been watching carne? Yeah, here. He
is surreal. Yeah. President session today with the Attorney
General accepted. Eric Holder's report on media relations and
investigations. The President did meet with the Attorney
General today in the Oval.
By the way, how does that sound? He met with him in the oval
in the Oval, oval. When did that show up as a way to say first
time I've heard it in the Oval. Oh, man.
Something that the cage match you're wrestling with? It sounds
like me in the Oval tonight. It sounds like $7.09 PM.
Eric Holder Barack Obama in the Oval tonight. I need a little
Eric Holder Barack Obama in the Oval tonight. Yeah, that'll
work. I immediately thought based on more like an angel
thing. I don't know. I was like, yeah, he was in the Oval like,
Oh, okay. What you think? Yeah, that's what I think. Yeah,
here's the rest.
And the Attorney General did discuss with him and present to
him. That report. I believe the Department of Justice will be
releasing that report this afternoon, but I refer you to
them. So they're releasing it that this afternoon that
indicates that the President did accept it as it was presented. I
think that's a fair assessment to make like we won't have any
statement or comment on it before it's released. But I
believe the Department of Justice is releasing it today.
Okay. Did you hear anything about this report, John?
No, I don't know. I don't know what he's talking about. I don't
know what you're talking about. That's how obscure it is.
Okay. First, let me tell you that there is the Skype
commercials is new. And I'll put a link in the show notes. Thank
you very much chat room that shows how you're going to now be
inundated with loud ads. In fact, they are called loud Skype
ads. Okay. The report that came out was the self induced report
about the spying on the media that the Attorney General
promised he would investigate himself. You'll recall this
vaguely.
Okay. Anyway, it's a very important report. It was
discussed in the Oval, as you just heard, it is the Department
of Justice Report on review of news media policies. In other
words, how we deal with the news media, when it comes to
investigating them. I think we do need to before we go any
further, we need to one more time I should have this
plastered on the wall. In fact, I need to get one of those Eric
things. One more time, I'd like to just recite the very short
line that is the First Amendment of the United States
Constitution is very important in this case, just so you
understand. A Congress shall make no law no law, I repeat, no
law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the
free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of speech
or of the press. So I will abbreviate Congress shall make
no law respecting an establishment of religion, or no
law abridging the freedom of speech or of the press, no law.
And now let's take a look at Eric Holder's document, which
was discussed in the Oval as you just heard, the president
approves it. In May 2013, at the President's direction, the
Attorney General initiated a comprehensive evaluation of the
Department of Justice his policies and practices practices
governing the use of law enforcement tools, including
subpoenas, court orders and search warrants to obtain
information or records from or concerning members of the news
media. I think it's important, John, because guess what, we're
probably not members of the news media, incriminate yourself in
criminal and civil investigations. As part of this
process, the Attorney General convened a series of meetings to
solicit input from a wide range of news media stakeholders where
you invited not a stakeholder First Amendment academics, also
holding a pork chop at the time, and advocates as well as members
of Congress. Based on this review, the Attorney General is
making significant revisions to the department's policies
regarding investigations that involve members of the news
media. Well, that is just a preamble. The department views
the use of tools to seek evidence from or involved in the
news media as an extraordinary measure. The department's policy
is to utilize such tools only as a last resort, after all
reasonable alternative investigative steps have been
taken. And when the information sought is essential to a
successful investigation or prosecution. Gee, that sounds
like fusion. Yes, that's literally what it says
prosecution of what period media member? Yes. Like poor guy from
Fox, this
is what it's all about.
So I just want to go after them.
Well, to this No, no, this has a this has a very specific goal in
mind, which is coming up in seconds. The changes in policy
outlined in this report are intended to further ensure the
department strikes the appropriate balance between two
vital interests, protecting the American people by pursuing
those who violate their oaths through unlawful disclosures of
information. Let me just read that again. One of the vital
interest is protecting the American people by pursuing
those who violate their oaths through unlawful disclosures of
inflammation. Wow. And safeguarding the essential role
of the Free Press in fostering government accountability and an
open society. Right. In addition, I'm skipping through
the self-contradictory No, yeah, I'm skipping through the through
the report. Here. We go. In addition, as the President
Attorney General have long stated the administration will
continue to support efforts within Congress to pass a media
shield law, which would codify or codify whichever you prefer,
ratifies, codify many of the principles that inform the
policy guidance described in this report. So the way I read
that is, what we're really going for here. And what this has
always been about, and what I believe the whole even the snow
job is about is to instate a law, which will be
unconstitutional by definition, a media shield law, and this is
the blueprint for that, John, because of course, it was
discussed in the oval and everyone's all in on it. So
here, the President and the Attorney journal, a general
restate in this document, that Congress needs to pass a media
shield law, which would codify all of the principles described
in this report, so I'll just highlight a few reversing the
existing presumption regarding advance notice now could read
this whole thing, but I'm just going to summarize it for you.
The Attorney General says, Well, you know what we're going to do,
we're going to notify you if we're going to be snooping on
your shit. However, there are, of course, certain specific
cases like, Well, gee, what could that be?
Well, since we've talked about here, it is a national security
be at the top of the list,
I'll read it to you. So they can delay this notification for 45
days or up to 90 days, which is probably long enough to get all
of your emails and everything else you need.
Yeah, it takes, you know, it's not something you get instantly,
for compelling reasons, advance notice and negotiations would
pose a clear and substantial threat to the integrity of the
investigation, risk, grave harm to national security, or present
an imminent risk of death or serious bodily harm in those
cases. They do not have to notify the press, and it'll go
into the 45 day period, which of course, will be determined by
the Attorney General. And here's the beauty part. Under the new
policy, the presumption of advanced notice will be overcome
only if the attorney general affirmatively determines taking
into account recommendations from the newly established news
media review committee. Yeah. Who should be on the news media
review committee? Let's see. establishment of the news media
Review Committee. It will include senior Department
officials, including but not limited to departments, Director
of the Office of Public Affairs, and the department's chief
privacy and chief civil liberties officer. That's it.
That's your media Review Committee. It doesn't include
any actual members of the media. Pile?
Yeah, it's pretty pathetic textbook. Okay, that's a good
catch.
Yeah, I'll just I'll finalize here with an eye on
that. Well,
they will establish a media dialogue group.
What does that mean? Well, the
department will establish an attorney general's news media
dialogue group to assess the impact of the department's
revised news media policies, and to maintain a dialogue with the
news media. This group will meet six months after the proposed
revisions to the department's news media policies are
effective. And on an annual basis thereafter, the oh, that's
the group will meet to discuss any policy issues relating to
the application of the department's news media
policies. The group will include members of the news media
attorneys from various department components, and the
director of the Department's Office of Public Affairs.
So let's, let's look at this in a more highly realistic light.
They've already got the news media in their pocket. Yeah. And
that's not good enough. Know, they got it set up right now. So
it looks kinda legit. And they have, you know, the whole thing
is kind of peopled with all these. Obama bots. Let's put it
that way. Yeah, but that's not good enough. Because there may
be one lone wolf out there. That might actually write something
meaningful. Just might say something meaningful, let's say,
Greg, you know, whoever. Yeah, I'm not even gonna put Glenn
Greenwald in? No, you're not. And by the way, I think and we
have to discuss this before the show's over. We'll discuss it
now talking about idiots in the news media. This, of course,
this was a I don't know if this was an international story, but
it was a good distraction of the week, which we really haven't
seen a good one for a while. I thought this was a gem, which
was the the reading of the bogus names of the pilots, which
would before you get into that, can I just finish off your green
your Greenwald thought there for a moment.
i Well, I've got some Greenwald clips to finish it off dinner
now. But
it'll just take me a moment. When because you were talking
about the news media and how they've already got them in
their pocket. So when I was berating the freedom, the
freedom of the press foundation on Thursday, right, so one of
our producers helpfully tweeted Trevor Tim, with double M,
was the one who didn't have the Wikipedia entry, right?
He has no Wikipedia entry. And he said, No, Adam curry calling
you guys out of shields, and he and he responded, and he's like,
okay, great. Tim did Yes, Trevor Tim. So I looked into Trevor
Tim. And not only has he written articles, encouraging the
creation of a media shield law, which is insane for any
journalist to even consider. He actually co wrote the book on
the First Amendment. This is how insane this is.
So he is a A year an activist at the Electronic Frontier Frontier
Foundation specializes in surveillance free speech,
apparently not government transparency issues.
And then he says he works for the former
president of the ACLU and the union. And at the New Yorker
graduate from Northeastern, there's a lawyer. Yeah,
but in here it is. He helped the longtime general counsel of the
New York Times James Goodale write a book on the First
Amendment, which literally says Congress shall create no law.
And this guy is is is advocating, if you look down
below on that page, I think that's where you are, you'll see
that he is advocating immediate shield law. So this freedom of
the press Foundation are like internet freedom. They don't
they don't want this they want exactly the opposite. Well,
that's the way you do it. Right. But but, you know, it has to be
said, somebody's gonna say, All right, you
know what? It's not gonna mean a damn thing.
Oh, that's, that's what you say. I have influence. Well, you
do actually. So let's get to Let's Talk About It. Idiots in
the media who see a teleprompter. Now. I got a
couple of questions about this. And let's face it, this is a
distraction of the week. I'd like to hear the theme. Yeah.
Oh. Absolutely.
No, I would assume the international audience Yeah, I
don't I would assume the international audience knows
little of this, but I suppose it got out a little. I think it got
pretty viral. Let's play pilots. This is the KTVU woman whose
seems like a pleasant enough person reading from the
prompter. It
looks like a soccer mom would be totally totally soccer mom
reading the prompter on weekends. That's that's who this
is.
And just just a preface that there's also a Chiron. So the
Chiron guy wrote this up. So he wrote it up. So there's a number
of people involved here. And then the part I want to discuss
is how people start blaming each other and the latest. What's the
latest? Let's let's
play it. Let's play it. So for people who have not heard it,
I'm pretty sure. Just about everyone who listens to this
show has heard it, but you'd be you'd be surprised. You'd be
surprised and I'm glad you have the clip because it's important
just for historical reasons that we have it documented. And by
the way, best clip. If it wasn't already out, there would have
been Clip of the Day for either of us. I love this. This this I
made I peed my pants
cause of death and whether she was already dead when the truck
hit her. We have new information now also on the plane crash KTVU
has just learned the names of the four pilots who are on board
the flight they are Captain some ting Wong, we to lo Ho Lee fuq
and bang dang owl. The NTSB has confirmed these are the names of
the pilots on board flight to 14 when it crashed. We are working
to determine exactly what roles each of them played during the
landing.
And I'm amazed by this. I saw this I'm like this is this is so
good. And the thing that disappointed me is, you know the
media who everyone laughs everyone is laughing with this.
It's funny. It's hilarious. It's, you know me, I love humor
in a in inside of a disaster. It lightens the mood, you know,
when someone's dying. I'm the guy with the jokes like, Hey,
how's that cancer treating you? I've never noticed this, but go
on. Yeah, right. You've never noticed this?
Well, all I do is what do you got
to say? Okay, and so then you wouldn't when, by the
way before you do that? You're the aeronautics guy. Yeah, I
thought 77 had like a two man crew.
But they had to cruise onboard. Okay, you had a real leader?
Yes. Yeah, I'm not quite sure. So it had four pilots, for
airman for drivers.
And by the end, when have we ever heard a report about
anything ever in the history of all these reports that we talk
about? And we've done it for years? They ever mentioned a
pilot's name? Why would they do it? Now?
I don't know. The NTSB is taking the blame for it. They're saying
no, no, no. No, when did this change
is changed. Like just recently, there's a blog post on SF Gate,
where apparently here's the way the story goes. First, it was
like, oh, guy, what happened was our screw up. And they said,
because the NTSB doesn't give out names. And so then they
found an intern, which is just to me is the funniest part of
the story. Some guy, unpaid intern. And by the way, if I was
an intern, and I could pull this off, I do it. I am gold for the
rest of John. John.
I'm looking at the NTSB website with a press release.
Right. I know that I'm telling you what just let me finish.
That's that's what's out there officially. But now it turns
out, there's another round of this. And the NTSB is now
denying it. It has not been put on their website yet, but it's
been discussed in the SF Gate and in a film material blog post
saying that no, we did. It's turning into a cover of thing
you watch how this devolves and people start pointing the finger
at each other I I think it makes more sense that some joker says
here's where we would go but it still doesn't. There's some
aspects is still don't make sense because nobody cares about
the pilot. So somebody calls the NTSB they ended there at lunch
because we're in West Coast time. Who knows? Some gets an
intern picks up the phone a bell pick up the phone, picks up the
phone. Yeah. Hello, Jeff Bill Meeker. That Do you guys have
the name of the pies you can give us? No, let me get back to
you. I'll call you back. Give me your number and they hang up my
scenario. And then they guy gets together with his buddies. And
they dream up because you can't ad lib these names that quick.
No, no, this is well done. This is well done. This is like Ben
Dover and Mike hunt. Yeah, Seymour butts. Yeah, exactly.
So they guys get together a group of these jokers that are
getting paid nothing. And they got nothing better to do. And so
so I'm going to call you shake. Yeah, callback, callback
callback. callback, do you think I should I am gonna get in
trouble. Let's just do it. And so they call them back and they
give them these bogus names that they eat up. Which is really the
disturbing part about this, no matter who's at fault. The fact
that someone would pick this this call up, right, these names
down, give it to the Chiron guy, give it to the writer doing the
prompter. Matera and have the person read the straight faced
is amazing. Yeah. But that said at KTVU. I will tell you that we
had a guy at Ziff Davis or detect TV, Steve Porter, who
worked at KTV you and he says that Dennis Richmond who was the
longtime anchor at KTVU, once blew his stack, because on the
prompter, there was a line left out at the end of one of the
newscast. And then Richmond apparently just went nuts
because they didn't have this line to read. And the line was
good night. I'm Dennis Richmond. Okay, and it was left off the
Read Write. heads will roll. So this this place is a bunch of
readers. And anyway, it's still not I still think it's from what
I can tell it's still up in the air. How this actually,
I think it's fantastic media hacking. I love it. I find it
really I find it deplorable that the the media is the news media
in general is saying these are racial slurs. No, they're not.
It's not racial slurs, Seymour butts. It's
not that they're saying, Oh, this racial joke is not a racial
joke. Why can't anyone just say, Damn, that was funny. Why this
is the cultural Marxism that we have devolved into is that we
can't even admit that everyone laughed or everyone, every
single person watches that. The friggin China is looking at this
the Koreans they're going. That was That was funny.
You know, I saw the I was looking at the comments and one
of the places that posted it early. And there was a Korean
guy with chimed in, he said and he said something interesting
because I've noticed this too. He says the most Koreans would
think this is funny. Yeah, but wait, he says but I'm a Korean
and I don't I think it's racist. Oh, screw you in any way.
Why is it racist to make fun of someone's accent? Why is that
racist? Why is that not all of a sudden racist?
While we ask around us have somebody tell you I don't
particularly know why when I do. Like I have this Indian accent I
like to do race race races. My argument is that is the number
one ways people speak English. If you look at just straight up
numbers, and you take a British accent and Australian accent
American accent these are all accents. No rapping Indian
accent. The Indian accent has the most. Yeah, there's more
people that speak in that that tone that that kind of funny way
the Indians talk. And how's that racist? You're just you're
celebrating
the we are celebrating diversity. We're celebrating
diversity. I may want to speak that way in the future. Check
this out. Don't Don't laugh. Why you're laughing? Shut up. Shut
up.
That's funny. It's funny. That's the Japanese cultural manage
everyone. Well, no jokes or if a joke is funny to everyone. I
think it's probably not even a joke anymore. It's a joke
doesn't by definition a joke have to put someone or something
down. Isn't that kind of how they work? No, we weren't for
you. I'm I'm dismayed by that. I really am dismayed that we can
have you know funny humor certainly in
just this made Are you shocked and dismayed? No, I'm just
different. So I'm not shocked and
dismayed. I'm just a little dismayed. Yeah, just a little
dismayed to
see you being dismayed. Just Just
a tiny however, if the idea was to get more airtime for NTSB
Chairwoman Deborah Hersman, I'm all for it. I love this woman.
Is she hot?
away she is more telegenic than She has photos. Oh
my gosh, she Yeah,
I looked her up. No, I agree. But then I saw on TV Oh yeah,
she's pretty nice looking.
Now she she needs lighting and makeup for still photography.
But on television, she's dynamite. You look at her and
you just like, yeah, man, I crushed I crashed the plane.
It's my fault. Well, I'll just blame me as long as I can hang
out with you more.
I find a way I want to play one more clip because I think the
clip that should have gotten more play is the clip is the
which was on the tarmac. Somebody's on their cell phone.
I guess they were in the wreck or whatever. But this but this
guy no play at all. Is the no ambulances clip play this trying
to help people who had been ejected from the plane during
the crash.
We just thought in a plane crash. And there are a bunch of
people who still need help and there's not enough medics out
here that need help. There is a woman out here on the street on
the on the runway, who is pretty much burned very severely on the
head and we don't know what to do. No ambulances on site. Lots
of fire engines in the distance not one ambulance out here on
the tarmac. Okay, I'm here with Francisco Medical.
I heard this. By the way they did bring an Amazon around over
the woman
was complaining about oops, sorry. I don't think that was
that woman. I think they ran over a different woman. Well,
they ran over somebody well, but what do you what are you saying?
Like there's not enough ambulances? Of course there's
not enough ambulances. You can't
have it. But you think you think an airport that has all these
fire trucks? Oh, first of all, you think that if they Yeah, I
know where you're going to get to be mostly guys sitting around
because the plane accidents happen what? Once every few
years at any one airport.
Fire departments. You know, if you call the ambulance in most
places, the fire department is going to show up. It's not the
hospital. It is because your true 911 Your true the true
heroes who really come for no money and just come to help you
as the fire department. And they've got like our buddy bad
bad chat out there in Colorado. These are the guys who are doing
the real. The real work. If you want the ambulance, yeah, well,
you better have your credit card ready? Where the hospital is
gonna dispatch an ambulance. No. No, it's all it was grand EMS,
its emergency medical services. But it's really fire. Fire
Department costs a couple grand Yeah, but so the every airport
has fire services, but they're their primary. Their primary job
is to take care of an emergency but you can't have a you just
can't have like 100 ambulances running around. And who was this
woman? By the way? That wasn't unclear to me if she's sitting
in a plane calling 911 I mean, where was she? And she's talked
about the street or the
I think she problem when people have slid out of the thing. And
she had her phone on her. Call 911 It could be bullcrap the
whole thing could be could be it could
be but for me, it's like if I see one someone with their head
on fire, you know, and I'm good. Hey, man, this is an outrage.
I'm here in the plane crash, and I need more ambulances. But my
services I need my services from my government is not servicing
me. You know, I'd be like I've been run over this lady see what
I can do? Well, I'm
sure that she maybe did that. We don't know. No, we don't. But
what can we conclude from this whole episode of stupidity?
I hope you have some conclusion because I don't other than it's
just stupidity. And I thought it was hilarious.
I thought it was hilarious to in fact the first time I saw but
what the thing that still gets me is that it went through so
many chat. This is the problem i This is my conclusion is that
we've become so kind of you know, we're so disconnected,
especially the broadcast media and the newspaper people for
that matter. So disconnected that we can't report we can't
just you know, actually see reality. I mean, if you this
this was the most obvious joke. You know, let's play that clip
one more time and tell me if you could actually see it with a
straight face read this copy.
No, I can't play this again.
Come on. Really? Yeah, don't you think it's funny enough to play
again? One more time that was
death and whether she was already dead. When the truck hit
her. We have new information now also on the plane crash KTVU has
just learned the names of the four pilots who are on board the
flight they are Captain some ting Wong. We too low Ho Lee
food and bang dang outta me. Come on.
So the more people the Chiron guy must have known the Chiron
guy or gal. They must have known you look at it's like, all
right.
Whatever they told me to write it on. Ah, I mean, if I was the
newsreader I would be so
the no rapping. No, she's cheating. No, she's happy she
has the part time I'm big on the weekends because she she's
shuttling around soccer boys all day.
You know, it's just exactly what she looks like I've seen her
I think she's all she's only on the weekends. I'm pretty sure
I'm pretty sure so Adam Yes. Big news today before we get to our
producer segment we got to mention this okay. In the United
States July 14, which I believe is today. Yes, it's been branded
national macaroni and cheese No, according to Wikipedia, what?
No, go to
noni and cheese no good if I had known this that I would have put
together a whole celebratory clip
you slaves get used to mac and cheese macaroni and cheese
shatter melted together mac and cheese mac and cheese Mac and
mac and cheese. Mac and cheese iron Rand
Wow, what a day.
Now this was documented supposedly we could have done
100 Specially wondering if somebody slipped us into the
Wikipedia just for our benefit.
By the way divorce tax law not allowed in the Wikipedia Mac and
Cheese Day. No problem. Rock on boys. Yeah. Nothing wrong with
that.
Supposedly that Wisconsin cheese talk page is referenced about
about this but I see no nothing. Oh, how
are the French with this? I mean, the the French of course
celebrate this the Bastille Day. Today. Hello French listeners
who never donate. Yeah,
then they never listen. That's okay. Now they're out. They're
done. They gave up their debt. They won't be back until like
August.
They're on vacation. Yeah, they
take a nice 90 day or what? Yes. 45 day vacation. It's not bad.
Okay, so what's the history? What's the history on this mac
and cheese date? National? It's the Wisconsin Okay, Wisconsin
cheese talk.com. Let me see what Wisconsin cheese industry
anybody? Here it is late and PR mood
is national Macaroni and Cheese Day as a little Lincoln on the
tags. And it says nothing. It this is bought bowl. I'm just
but I thought it was worth mentioning
it sad is what it is.
It is yes.
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It's always funny to see the art that the artists are trying to
get in on time, because of course it's not you making art
is not like, oh, the show's over. Let me whip something up
in three seconds. That's what they that's what they do. Yeah,
well, that's the best ones typically are that but a lot of
times you'll see people trying to anticipate what our topics
will be.
Yeah, then, you know, we can generalize about that. They're
mostly wrong. Pretty much. But it's kind of interesting to look
at it because when we look at these Oh, yeah, I guess I guess
a lesser show would have would have discussed mainstream media
item.
Yeah. Like Barack Obama eating broccoli. Yeah, that's that's
what we're all about. I mean, it's even died. Well, I think we
do pretty well. This is the first time we talked about the
Zimmerman trial. And we only really talked about it in the
context of the apathy of the slaves of America. And I'm not
talking about black people. I'm talking about all people. Before
you get
up in arms about being spied on 20 470. No,
no. Well, let's let's do the art. Let's do our executive
producers,
executive producers to thank for this show. 530, including an
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I think yours,
huh? Well, months for sure. Perhaps a year, the black Baron
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morning, Adam and John, keep up the good work is this is one of
the best ways to get news and not the agenda.
And this is so nice to black bear in Silicon Valley, because
he's been donating nice amounts for weeks now.
Yeah, he's definitely on a roll. Yeah,
thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you Sunday's are always
tough and this really helps.
And then then, Edward Jacobs came in with $530 from
Providence, Rhode Island. Good old providence. Remember them?
This is where my mom is from, from the Sopranos. They went
from Providence. No, no, but they'd go there to get the
really talented hitmen.
My mom I grew up in Providence my my great grandfather played
for Pawtucket. Oh, yeah. He actually my great grandfather
odd tucket roosters I don't know if they're called the roosters,
but he wants to he was a pitcher. And he had a no hit
Run. No hit no run game and he had the last so it was, you know
what, as we
know, last year, you could have a no hitter with a run. That's
true. He could walk your
walk home. Yeah, isn't that what isn't that what it's called? No,
hit no run? No, they're just called No, no. Okay, so I had no
hitter. But also no one on base. So no one had gotten on base at
all period. Oh, that's
a perfect game. That's a lot.
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, so he had nothing had happened. No,
no. Yeah, he
had a perfect game now. But wait. 27 Straight outs.
Yes. But the very last ball. So it's, you know, it's like a
didn't have it's three and no one I'm getting to the story.
I'm waiting. It's what so what is it? It's bottom of the ninth?
Ninth? No one's on base. It's he's got two strikes. Three
balls. Right. So this three into Kountry into? Yeah, he throws an
egg. Like and the batter. True American just stood there.
didn't swing to give my great grandfather. The true record.
Especially through just just a pitch down the gut. It totaled
total like
girly pitch. He'd completely choked. And the guy just went
no, I'm not gonna hit it. I'm letting you have it. Well,
that's my story. Yeah, yeah. Gumpy
Well, I hope he kept the ball. So Edward Jacobs. Love your
show. I've listened to effective defend you you bring this up
because our local favorite pitcher around here Tim Lincecum
just had a no hitter regular one. Yesterday last night. It's
a big deal. It's cool. It is no it's a big deal. So nobody hits
the ball. Love your show I listened to and he's the only
walk to so here's only two walks away from a perfect game and
somebody threw 140 pitches. I've listened to no agenda from move
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Apparently we're not the best podcast in the universe. What
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everyone has somebody turned him on to the show. Last time I
donated Adam thought I was a drunk cripple thinking my rehab
was for drinking What's your problem? But it was actually for
both hips replacement you do? Use the deuce thing but that's
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to return to work in early May only to find out there was a
resource action aka layoffs and no job to return to on Geez.
Well, the company paid me to leave so I'm sharing a
percentage with you guys five and 30 Does he need pass on
doesn't need job
karma or something?
He needs job karma and a little girl Yay.
Okay. Wow. A man I'm sorry. I didn't cripple that'd be quiet.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma.
And then we have Andrew large min is the name he goes by in
Taipei City $333.33. And we do have a note from him and I
opened it up in the email and left it on the other computer. I
got it. I got it here. I got it. Okay. In the morning, John and
Adam. Here's the second installment on my knighthood.
The goal is to earn my knighthood while I'm at age 33.
Yes, very good goal. I turned 34 In September, so I'm just a
couple of months away the show continues to be an outstanding
product and the entertainment value you provide is second to
none. I am constantly attracting sideways glances by bursting
into laughter on the subway train or singing along to the
jingles in the elevator. Saying that I am from Taiwan and a
native speaker of Mandarin please give me a huntsman Zeiss.
Zeiss Shang Wu combo. Oh yeah, Huntsman asociado one combo
Thank you bon voyage to Adam and Mickey. Oh, that's for our
upcoming trip. Oh absolutely. You got tiny algea Chica ching
ching I wonder if he if he sings along to the jingles as as a
Mandarin as well. revealing my kanji like
you're just asking for it. I am I'm really trying to says a lot.
Toronto Canada $250 ITM bitches. I was listening well in the
garden checking for Monsanto contaminated roses when you
confirm there will be no shows for a week. That's not true.
That's not gonna run shows. Yeah,
it just won't be live. Recorded actual shows they will be fresh
material. All
right, I think right. Rewriting 200.5
Not that one again.
Well, we're gonna we're currently we're thinking,
hold on a second I got an idea.
I already have some interviews in the can.
Well, we have that but we also if we could ask our producers to
put together a compilation that could be I find
no knowing how this is gonna work right?
No, what do you mean it's not going
to work and they're going to do nothing?
Well, it would be great because well that we have no agenda
cd.com And the guy is doing it his boss is actually paying him
to do this. Maybe we can do like to no agenda CDs because they
aren't they're really they're good compilations of stuff and
it's short little bits and it's funny. It's funny stuff
sometimes Yeah, anyway, yeah, you're right. No one will do
anything. Right onward.
I will be somewhere as I said, and while I will be somewhere
sunny during that time, I started to have a heart
palpitation indeed I may have suffered a mild stroke if I need
to know agenda fix that badly. Then you need my value for
value. Which is 250 bucks soon to be Baronet. This is Mark says
a lot. A sexy girl science karma, please.
What is that to Dr. Kiki? Is that what he means by sexy girl
sign? Yeah, okay. Already. Science.
Science and karma course.
Oh, of course. I'm so sorry. What am I thinking? You've got
karma. Oh my sounding by the way on the on the box. today. We did
some more hacking on it.
You sound actually you sound a little. You're not as boomy. You
actually sound better because it's much more.
It's funny you say that because that's what everyone is saying.
They say it sounds more natural. Right sounds, but But do I still
sound like I had big balls?
Okay, it's like I'm just trying to guide you and come with the
right analysis. I know what you're saying. But the big balls
most of them you're getting from the from the you weren't getting
natural big balls. rolls from the Big Bopper compression.
Yeah, yes. Correct. Over compressed balls in a vise.
Yeah. And so that's good. I think it's a better sound
because it's I think it's cleaner.
Wow, that's great. Thank you. Okay, good. Nice nod. Chris
Taylor in Raleigh, North Carolina. Um 250 Chris Taylor
from Raleigh, NC donating to help from a Promate Promate
promote the best podcast in the universe. Keep up the good work
and one slave at a time will win this fight.
There's a fight iron What Are We Fighting For?
I don't know. What are we fighting for?
For Don Lemon? I'm fighting for him.
Good for you. Somewhere McConnell's gotta fight for
China. Fuck What was that?
Jesus Christ
great. You just stipulated and all of a sudden all the gear
went flying well let me just read away because I assume this
is still being recorded. Peter McConnell $22.20 in Suzhou China
or China as he puts it, greetings some sushi
oh shit John Hold on a second.
Do you have to stop the recording
all right, and we're back I've I've and I actually I ran
upstairs to get the soldering iron. I'll do this right. But
they also have little clip wire so I'm able to I got I got the
clip wires on it so it should be okay until the rest of the show.
Wow, that was
now let's just don't do that in Holland. No live but let's
just retrace the steps. I was I was saying how great this is.
And then two seconds later, it literally like jumps off the
table onto the floor and shatters and shatters. What is
that saying?
It's saying that you didn't do the same go to Miko de
mio. That's yeah. Thank you. I told you Cinco de Maya. Sure,
right. Yeah. Okay. All right. Where were we?
So in other words, what you did, here's what it here's how it
superstition works. Since you didn't get the Sanko de mio in?
Yes, you had been subconsciously scheming to sabotage the show.
Yes, Ruth. And I specifically wanted to really hurt the thing
I've been working on that I cherish the most. Yeah, that is
fragile.
This is like this is the same thing. This is what everyone
does this by the way. And I'll point this out. It's like, you
got your you signed yourself up for something. You don't want to
go to it. And then somehow you lose your keys. You can't find
them anywhere. And then you find them. They're on a shelf in the
cat in the kitchen cupboard. Because you put them there
thinking oh, I'll remember I'll put them next to the peanut
butter. Because I'll remember where my keys are. Is this Who
else were at that's easy to remember then you ever find them
and you miss them? You're so
right and that's what you did. It's insane why do we do these
things? By the way the chat room right now is very funny
that's unusual. Yeah
no, they're very funny about the ultimate podcast device being
able to survive it Asiana landing at SFO like that all
right. So we had where have we done Chris Taylor.
And by the way, they're the one guy who that turns out that you
know the interns name who's just out there with the joke of as he
was Chinese No, yes, some young guy
you should have gotten to a quicker just hammered and
forgot all about it. Yeah, joke I worked on last. McDonald's,
you should have coordinated with me so we really could have made
it suck.
Peter McConnell again $22.20 in Suzhou, China, greetings from
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When your ship finally comes in also, I haven't been able to
determine exactly when to observe this holiday but
national Macaroni and Cheese Day Day falls either on the seventh
of the 14th We've talked about that. Better late than never I
say so. When can we hear the jingles and observation of this
glorious day as always? Thanks for the stellar deconstruction
the last shows have been out since ending very much thank you
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Yes, is if I gotta find his note which I was removed. There it
is. Last associated Exec. For today's show five, three zeros,
Benz C Parts Unknown tuner dollars, there's a note. And he
uses Ben C on the note. So it's wise to me once in the morning
to you both. I've been listening to no agenda during my daily
commute for a while now. And I finally decided that it's time
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great job of digesting current events and trying to make sense
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If you guys still interested in stories of his of hysteria in
the school system, then I have a contribution to add. So here we
go. Oh, nice. My mother is a seventh grade teacher in the
small Illinois town that I grew up in. She was telling me about
the bomb scare in the school a couple of months ago. She said
that a fellow teacher came into his classroom in the morning and
found a note on his desk. After reading it he called the
principal saying he had received a bomb threat. The principal
called the police, who then instructed the principal to have
the teachers examined the rooms was a big financing it looked
like a bomb. It wasn't until the police arrived sometime later
that they moved students to the gym across the street. Standard
bomb threat procedure by the way horse
don't wait no, no, no the aren't they supposed to move them into
the corner of the room and tell them to cower reading
the note. No bomb was found and the students were sent home for
the day. Later my mom saw the note. She said it was a cartoon
a fifth grader had drawn showing a wily coyote esque bomb blowing
up with a stick figures arms and legs flying everywhere. Being a
fifth grade boy myself at one time I was not surprised by all
of it. What's more, the janitor found it on the floor the night
before and without looking at it. Casually threw it on the
teacher's desk because it was too lazy to throw it in the
trash. Either my mother nor I could believe how stupid the
whole situation was. As a great thank you Ben.
I think that standard procedure for bomb threat should be
sitting in the corner and cower just the case of blows up
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is from our producer in New Mexico, Jeffrey to Hague. And he
has made up he sent me one those bracelets, you know, the rubber
band bracelets, you know, the kind that you have, like the
Yeah, the
ones that were popularized by the the, the bicycle guy.
Yes, Lance the bicycle guy. And they're really cool. They gray
and that says don't drown me, bro. Oh, cool. It has no agenda.
show.com and I think he's gonna I don't know, of course you're
always going to do but he has some scheme. And he's like, hey,
check these out. I have a scheme. Let me see sent
me one I wear it. Yeah, of course. No,
Mickey actually is Mickey Natalie, where's that she puts
on water bottles. And here it is. Here the first batch of
bracelets. I would like to see these on some members of
Congress. Ah, okay. Oh, yeah. He has a scheme. Well, you know,
John, John F. Kerry wears all kinds of bracelets. He's got all
kinds of stuff on his right arm. So you know, you know what, our
producers never cease to amaze me. So I'm, I'm not I'm not
gonna say that that can't happen. Then we have a note here
from
Al Franken. Yeah. Michael Johnson
in the morning, Adam, I heard you and John talking about
satellites picking up microwave signals giving off given off by
towers from space. He says it's very again, was this again,
Michael Johnson.
You're not gonna read this guy's note.
You haven't seen this guy's note? This is not this is you
haven't seen this guy's notes. So what are you talking about in
the one that he's saying? You have not yet you the Motorola
equipment? No. Okay, go on.
Am I going to get Motorola equipment? No, no. This is okay.
So talking about the satellites picking up microwave signals
given off by that would be whorish of me. John, what are
you talking about? No, no, this is this is a PR segment. Ah,
it's very doable. In fact, you as a ham can try a similar
experiment communicating with your own spacecraft in space. If
you back the pocket spacecraft mission to moon Kickstarter. So
this guy has the name of it. It's the pocket spacecraft
mission to the moon pocket.
Yes. Great. Read this. He's got
it. He's got a kickstart. Yeah, no, he's and he's, he's raising
money. I think he's gonna He's gonna He's going to complete. So
just to kind of come so yes, he is. Yeah, I think he is. So the
idea is they have these little thin wafers. And it's gonna go
up in a in a commercial rocket and the satellites shoots out
and and the wafers are gonna poop out. And he says that we
could actually have a no agenda space saucer that we could all
track then on the web. Yeah, I think this is a good idea. I
like this a lot. And so I said, this is without a doubt the most
shameless plug of the day.
Yeah, it's pretty shameless. But this it was. So he needs 290,000
pounds is a lot of money. Yeah, British. Yeah. So that's like,
third lots. And he's got 33. So far, he's got 20 or 36. backers.
Yeah. And he's a big money guy.
Big guy, Alan Cole, Elon Musk.
Elon Musk. Be Elon Musk. We want to run it up in one of his
planes.
Well, that's fine. But if his rockets Yeah, Elon Musk, you
know, don't get me started on that guy. Anyway, thank you all
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um, I don't know if I should be upset or not that you actually
thought I would like do something to get free stuff and
promote it on the show. You do you really
would never do anything like that. Yeah, you would. But
do you think I would do that? That's really the I mean, I
certainly wouldn't do it just for myself. I mean, I'd make
sure you'd be on the same game.
I tried to get you stuff all the time.
Oh, okay. Sorry.
I do yeah. Yeah, I know you know how you how much free stuff I've
gotten recently. No, nothing sip. blackballed?
Maybe it's because you take the junkets for For a car companies
and then don't blog about it, maybe by the way, outstanding PC
Magazine article, which one? The one about you can't trust
Microsoft?
Oh, yeah, hilarious enough to do that one hilarious.
And you think you
think is what do you think of the thesis? Well,
there's a couple of things. And this is based upon the latest
article from Glenn Greenwald, who I have no respect for. You
can't you cannot respect by the day you cannot, you cannot
publish this without publishing the source material. This mean
he could be talking out of his ass and his. And if you look at
his Twitter feed, which I've kind of, there's a little
obsession for me now. He's like, what if you don't, if you don't
trust us, you know that we have the documents, then how could
you even trust what we posted? Like what are you six?
Okay, we need to talk about this then. Six, seven.
Now, I think he's six and Twitter is the playground of the
universe.
Well, I'm not gonna argue that. So there's a couple of things. I
got a couple of clips, you might as well play because it still
brings up the bowl crap that we've debunked with the actual
source material, which is annoying, because nobody else
seems to care except this show and I'm talking about the fake
landing of the movie. And
don't make me play. Don't make me play it again. Please
compete. I'm
not gonna play it. I don't even have it on the clip list. If you
if you notice, yeah, let's listen to old Glenn on you know,
he somehow ended he's on everything. He's just on
everything. And now he sounds like the you know, it sounds
like the spokes hole. Yes. For Snowden. Yes. Oh, he's like the
stolen. He's like Carney for Snowden. And so he's now on this
Chris Hayes. Everyone watch this guy. With the glasses. Yeah,
yeah, who's a fast talker. He's obviously been trained to how to
speak by Rachel Maddow, which means talk as fast as you can.
I think Chris, I think he is Rachel Maddow. Doesn't she go
back and change and become him?
I wouldn't be surprised but except for the fact that this
Chris Hayes is married that in there's no conflict of interest
here. But he was married to that he's or he still is married to
this woman who was with the Obama administration as a as a
counsel. For for Barack himself until last month. No. Yes.
To Say it ain't so.
So we have greenwall the first clip which has a bogus crap in
it Greenwald on on our M Bucha. Rachel Maddow clone show is what
I call it
issues for The Guardian newspaper. Glenn broke the upper
seven story in The Guardian. Claire, my first question to you
is, why do you think after this holding pattern after these long
weeks where we hadn't seen ever seen and why did today happen?
The reason is because his ability to get to the countries
where he's seeking asylum and hopes to receive asylum has been
forwarded by the willingness the United States Government
physically to block him from being able to get there they
revoked his passport which prevents him from traveling
to Yeah, okay. All right, let's just stop for one second. We
have read directly from the State Department's website, it
does not prevent you from traveling whatsoever. The only
thing it does is when you re enter the United States, you'll
have a big flag in the computer, which means you will be taken
aside and you will not be permitted the entry into the
country as a given.
That's all well, and you have your passport taken away.
Yes. But it's explicitly it says two things. Explicit implicitly,
explicitly says, One, no one's passport can be revoked if their
whereabouts is unknown. It specifically says that, yes. And
two it says that it's not a problem to travel on a revoked
passport because not everyone is tied into the American Gestapo.
So that's wrong. So green Wrong, wrong. Wrong. Hold on Glenn
Gren. Wrong,
that they will physically impede an airplane which they did with
the jet carrying the Bolivian President.
Wrong. Wrong. No, he asked to land with a book with a bull
crap excuse that he couldn't read his fuel gauges on the $47
million dollar Falcon, the $47 million Falcon jet. And oh, and
it's funny, you know, I was talking to a Russian friend the
other day, and, and I and and he left St. Petersburg when he was
eight. And, you know, we're just talking to Stephen. Isn't it
interesting. So, did you go to Germany for asylum or Poland? He
said, No. Do you know what the typical route is for most people
leaving Russia to get into Europe to ask for asylum?
Austria. Oh, that's interesting. That's odd, right.
They mistakenly thought how to Edward Snowden on it. And they
put pressure on all the countries that could be possible
refueling stops in order for him to get there and that's why the
ACLU and Amnesty are both warnings that what the Obama
administration is doing is threatening
that no, hold on a second. What because this is well, I dug into
this for a second. Let me just go back. What were the
organization's he said, Let's just listen again. It's why the
ACLU and Amnesty are both warning the ACLU and he says
amnesty, yeah, just amnesty, just amnesty. And I want to talk
about this bullcrap. And admitting
that what the Obama ministration is doing is threatening this
very well recognized right of asylum, there's simply no way
for him to get out at the moment. And that's why he sought
the help of these human rights organizations.
So one concern I think a lot of people have and I, one concern,
I actually count myself among that, as someone who is happy to
know the things I know because of Edward Snowden happy to have
that information, think that's information is crucial. If
you're happy,
and you're snowed and clap your hands. What was he saying?
And now he talks too fast. And then now he's going to do to
take the Obama so he has to because he's, he's MSNBC, works
for all.
Information, think that's information is crucial, and
we'll talk about the Microsoft story in a second is that he has
now been, it's unclear to me with how much autonomy this man
could possibly be acting. I mean, we know the nature of
Vladimir Putin, we know the nature of the Russian state at
this moment. In fact, any state if the Russian version of Edward
Snowden showed up at the Miami International Airport, the CIA
would be there the next day. So it doesn't seem ridiculous to me
to assume at this point, that those 10,000 files that he has
with him that he brought to you to screen with rigor and
clarity, are now in the hands conceivably of Russian
intelligence. And that doesn't seem like the best way for this
to have gone.
These people want to read too many books. Yeah, let's
go. Let's go over this thing. We brought this up on the show
before I just want to mention again, before you go into this
other analysis, which is Does anybody honestly believe that
the Russians don't have all this stuff already? All this
information that they've been running prism? Or John, by the
way, I want to ask you something about this, because they
released some more slides. No, they did it. Here's the
question. Who are these slides for? Who was supposed to be
viewing this slideshow?
These are? PowerPoint. Yeah, these are the way I see it.
These are partially sales job.
Totally. You end up bragging. Oh, look, we've got all these
guys in our pocket. Yeah. It seems like a bunch of bragging
slides. Yeah, we did.
Yeah. It's like, it's like office party slides. Yeah. We
have a Friday drink. And we'll talk about our accomplishments
before we head off for the weekend.
Get that guy to do a deck for deck deck for
and I do. I do want to point out that the Guardian, by their own
admission on the Charlie Rose show, the editors went to the
White House, went to DNI went to the CIA went to the NSA and
said, Here's what we're gonna publish. Are there any national
security concerns? And they went No. No. So just like, the
Trayvon Martin Zimmerman thing, this is all conditioning us and
I don't know if it's even a grand scheme. Well, Brzezinski
clearly is behind all of it. But you know, and Kissinger, but it
seems all to me like a beta test, you know, it's like, what
are they gonna say here? Okay, know that. Okay. Are they gonna
right now? Okay. Yeah, just that's what it feels. No,
it's actually like you and me about the riots, yes, is going
on. And one of the one of the officers know that public is
going to react adversely if they ever found out. Oh, both crap,
I'll bet you $1 They don't care. No, no, I
think the actual conversation we're having is, I'll bet you
Devorah tries to Welsh on the bit
made. Let me
allow me to interlude in your three clips, with a little
background or on what actually happened, because these are the
things that interests me. And I think most no agenda producers
are, are getting used to finding out this information for
themselves. So here's spokes whole Kearney have communicated
it to a variety of countries, including Russia. And so it's no
different than it was and I would simply say that providing
a propaganda platform for Mr. Snowden
very nice. Listen to the words now providing a propaganda
platform and I agree. I mean, what it means to ask for asylum
is one thing to do a press conference in the airport, okay.
runs counter to the Russian government's previous
declarations of Russia's neutrality, and that they have
and that they have no control over his presence in the
airport. It's also incompatible with Russian assurances that
they do not want Mr. Snowden to further damage US interests. But
having said that, wait for it. You know, our position also
remains that we don't believe this should and we don't want it
to do harm to our important relationship with Russia and we
continue to discuss with Russia our strongly held view that
there is absolute legal justification for him to be
expelled, expelled for him to be returned to the United States to
face the charges that have been brought against him for the
unauthorized leaking of classified information.
I just want you to know that there is authorized leaking and
unauthorized leaking, apparently. Because that's what
the spokes hole is saying right there. Unauthorized leaking. So
we see Snowden doing a press conference at the Moscow very
interesting. You caught that guy. Yeah. I just wanted to see
if you're awake.
So so he said, unauthorized leaking. So that implies
authorized leaking? Yes. Which is doing consistently Yes. Here
charges
that have been brought against him for the unauthorized leaking
of classified information authorized
leaking. So who was with our friend Snowden there at the
airport? Well, two women, I would say, by the way, Hadees
Hadees. Yeah. Sarah Harrison, we've been tracking her Sarah
Harrison, She is the woman from WikiLeaks, she, as far as we
know, is probably Julian Assange, his lover, Assange J.
The one that I liked the most, though, was the the one on the
right, Tanya luck, Sheena. And she is from one of my favorite
organizations, Human Rights Watch, which is a complete,
she'll front complete. In fact, it's it's a front the, and when
I say front, I mean for the CIA. It was the Human Rights Watch
organization that actually approved of the CIA secret
renditions. And I put a couple links in the show notes. So you
can go back and look at that, even though one of the articles
I had to get from the archive.org because it had been
scrubbed from the interwebs. But it literally quite clearly says
that Human Rights Watch said well, you know, at least we know
that these guys are going you know, to a place that is you
know that we're that we're managing and not some
godforsaken hole. So they're all on board with anything the CIA
does. And now this now this is falls under the amnesty banner,
just plain old amnesty, you can say whatever you do want. And no
one questions this. No one questions. What Who are these
women? And why are they there? And why are they there with you?
And who was backing this and go look at human Human Rights
Watch. Great name. Great name. But it's a front. And she runs
the Moscow office. Hello? Hello. I mean, come on. Yeah, I
know. It's getting pretty funny. Well, it's
hilarious to me. But you know, it's, I just No wonder people
come to us to listen, no wonder. I mean, I mean, how can you? I
know that people hear these things. And it registers. I
mean, you all human beings, your brains are really doing work and
they're really smart. And I know that maybe you didn't hear this
particular clip. But if your brain heard the clip,
unauthorized leaking, your brain is going hey, what's going on
here? And it tickles at you for a while you know, and it takes
finally goes away. But it does bother you and but if you got
this show our show. Yeah. And all we do is we take then we
poke it. Yeah, so yeah, you there was a reason that you were
acting. You're acting
weird. He'll write the reasons Yeah, this is why exactly. And
then
you go oh my god, they're trying to fool me. Yeah. Oh, here's the
Human Rights Watch page. H R w i was waiting for the day they got
the flash pop up of the two women sitting there with snowed
in middle looking over at her notes. Which I believe is blue
card. Let me see that Letterman uses. What are you going to talk
about next?
I don't know. Let's see. What do we have on the agenda? Just
looking at an agenda you got a flash pop up I don't have a pop
up what did you get? Did you get
that get a pop up as Human Rights Watch meets with Snowden
sign up for breaking news here and is oh, it
popped up for me now too. There we go. Here you go. It's
copyright 2013 by Tanya Lux Sheena,
Human Rights Watch now she didn't take this picture when
she taking the copy.
But look at the girl in the background. Look at Sarah. She's
hot man. Come on, come on. And she came from nowhere. She was
an intern.
She's probably the one who wrote those names on the Asiana flight
pilots last
I looked her up actually for you. Hold on a second. Let me
tell you.
You see this Tanya Logue luck Sheena, is that the is that the
same one?
Yeah, it looks completely different, doesn't she? She does
already.
This is typical of a spy. Yeah.
Late 2009 Harrison was an eager 27 year old applying for an
unpaid internship, a graduate of a prestigious boarding school
with ambitions. To become a journalist. Harrison had no
prior experience but MC Hayden said he saw spark that led him
to bring her on board. Yes, spark between his legs probably.
Hey, is this how it goes? Hey, John, and we've done this. What
do you think of that girl? Should we hire her? Yeah, yeah.
Are you kidding me? That'll brighten up everyone's day.
And I'm saying in an office environment you does? Of course
it does. But you can studied but you can never admit this because
you go to jail. Well, in California, especially. Yeah.
Harrison had no prior experience, but McFadden said he
saw the spark to bring her on board, a break that would set
her on the path to meet Assange, and eventually bring her into
the whistleblower websites inner circle. Oh, brother, it was an
intelligent choice to send her to Snowden, Mick Faden said.
She's smart, determined and fully believes in the moral
principle of shedding light. This is something she has strong
feelings of bending
her clothes.
After being recommended by Mick Faden Harrison began working
with WikiLeaks in August 2010. On the internal vetting of
confidential us documents supplied by Army Private First
Class Bradley Manning, which the site later released. No, they
gave it to newspapers, at some point that year, according to
two people with direct knowledge of the situation who spoke on
the condition of anonymity. Wow. It's the wiki leakers inside the
leakers. Wow, Harrison and Asante became intimately
involved. They cautioned that the relationship was not
Harrison's prime motivation and championing the WikiLeaks cause.
She is firmly committed to what Wikileaks is trying to do. She
believes 100% in the mission, one of the people said, Any
suggestion her relationship with Julian is what has compelled her
to do the things she has done would be totally wrong
assumption. Well, no, I'm not saying that at all. I'm just
saying it's kind of funny. Yeah. You deserve to be scrutinized
when you're screwing with the boss. No, no doubt you get that
seem so. So she gets the the the gig she gets the gig to go to
Moscow. It's all funny. And remember when our president
said, Hey, I'm not gonna call Putin over this. We called Putin
this week. Because, you know, look at what's happening.
There's, so this is all very fun and fun and games. And you hear
Carney talking about well, you know, we've got a long standing
standing relationship. You know what, we don't really want to
mess that up. But let's just look at the reality of the
situation. I put this in the show notes if you can Google it.
If you look at the the joint C 2013 drill, which is the Chinese
and Russian naval exercise, this thing was huge. Did you Did you
see the picture? I mean, and they've got you know, they're
firing live rounds. They've got jets they've got drones they've
got battleships I mean, this is not not minor what went on here.
But along with that, and we know that there was a the Russians
and the Chinese did a big deal for oil. Gazprom just got all
the Kurdistan oil and gas cookers on gas. I'm sorry, for
$1. And hey, I could have for one night if you look at the
map. Go ahead, John. Let's do this together because it's kind
of fun. Everybody listening on the stream, go to
maps.google.com That's the easiest one and type in
Kurdistan which is Kyrgyz Stan
ayo to get K yr KY jelly K YRGYZ.
Stan. Okay. All right. Now, this is not normally we'd be looking
to the left just north of Tajikistan.
What is what is to the to the south, the east there is China,
isn't it? Yeah. You can't get a shorter route into China. Well,
it
is China. Yes, you just step across the border and show your
china. So this is in China is of course, this is what it's always
been about. This is what the trends the Tapi pipeline is
about, you know, to go from Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq,
Afghanistan, Pakistan. Then through what is in between Burma
just got to a cool place in North Tibet. This got to be like
one of the more interesting places to
walk. I'll bet you up there. I'll bet you they've got one of
those Star Wars or Star Trek board bars you know where the
they
had all the fashion daftar Yeah, although
all this crate like crazy hats and chicks with six breasts and
stuff. I'm telling you, that's what it's like up there. So this
is the real this is The real deal this is what really
matters. None of this other stuff. It doesn't matter one
bit. This is the real deal because, you know, the Pentagon
is our natural resource extraction unit of the elites of
the United States of Gitmo nation, and of Britain and
France and you all the all the all the companies that that need
that stuff to enslave us. And I think I have to say we're on the
losing end right now. We're not doing our president. If you want
to be mad at anybody, he's doing a crappy job doing a really
really bad job and he's out golfing. You know, this does not
show confidence. You can we got our present art guys out golf
and the other guy's got a shirt off hanging out with tigers.
Right and they got snowed in doing press conferences in
Moscow airport, and they can't do it without with hot chicks.
And they lose two chicks. Obviously bodyguards.
handler body guards, obviously, it could be arms on that girl.
Yeah, well, he's probably knows some moves. Oh, yeah.
And that's the real game. And that's what is being obfuscated
by all this other stuff. But I think it's pretty funny. Yeah,
I'm all for it.
Alright, well, let's play clip two is along the way with the
with Glenn Greenwald on the can I
answer your question? Yes. At this point. Do you feel that
grin? Grand green, Bob ran green. Ron Greenwald ran? Do you
think that Ren is is compromised?
You know, I actually don't think he's compromised. I think he's
just kind of gone off the rails on his own.
Do you think that? Well, here's a possibility. Perhaps he's he's
just really gotten caught up in his 15 minutes?
Well, he's not he's definitely pushing his luck with the 15
minutes. He's way over time. Hey, buddy, get off the stage. I
think like the guy comes up to do five minutes on a stand up
open mic and you won't get off the stage.
grunt grunt Greenwalt. Your five minute up? All right, can we go
with clip two? Yeah,
I think what you just described is is exactly what you called
it, which is an assumption. And I would add, it's a very
speculative assumption, one for which there's no evidence and I
think that runs counter to the evidence that we know. Remember,
this is a person who threw away his entire life as he said in
the beginning of this statement that you just played,
threw away his entire life
seems to be alive if he asked me Well, I think he's talking about
his, his his his like this one room apartment, you know,
working for, for one of these agencies as a contractor with no
health benefits. And a girlfriend that he apparently
didn't
I don't know. I'm thinking he's life got an upgrade if you ask,
Oh, yeah, no, he's big.
He's big star now and get killed.
He had a girlfriend, a longtime girlfriend of family who loves
him. I get emails from them all the time asking me to pass on
best wishes and love to him.
Wait a minute. What?
Did you notice that too? Yeah. What is he now that goat cheese
just says like one of these criminal attorneys that keeps
passing messages back and forth between the mob and the guy
that's indicted.
And remember we have Bruce find the lawyer lurking in the
background he it's about time for him to make another
appearance.
If you play that thing again, I believe there's code in there.
Check it out. Hold on. A roll it back a few.
He had a girlfriend, a longtime girlfriend of family who loves
him. I get emails from them all the time asking me to pass on
best wishes and love to him. Yeah.
Your messages your family loves you, which is code for the
family. Hello, the family John CIA. I'm getting the fan. The
family loves you. The family
loves you. Don't you think the beat could be just that simple.
He had a very stable career a lucrative job and he threw it
away because he wanted not to destroy the United States or
harm the United States which could easily have done by
selling the information by to provoke a debate and he was
willing to sacrifice all of his interest including his freedom
in order to have that so the idea that he would then suddenly
start turning over secrets to Russia or China which he could
have done early on and gotten a lot of money for it.
What gotten a lot of grit and grit really, Ron Greenwald what
book you're reading.
Is it costly reading too much luck Caray
is what is so like a ray hold on reference. I
don't understand. One of the spy novelists.
I thought it was like the largest Erikson guy or whatever.
But
so he's like, now he sounds exactly like the publicist.
publicist for the guy, right. If you're talking to her, she can't
talk right now. Let me she's, she's, she's just recuperating
from her. She sprained her ankle in a basketball game. Yes. And
let me tell you, I mean, seriously, she could be doing
anything she wants right now. But no, she decided to give it
all up for you for your entertainment people. So please
back off a little bit. Are we talking Lady Gaga or I have
another minute on This thing can we continue? Yeah, I love it.
I find the whole thing. No, I love it. I love it. It's great.
It's just condensed. This is great. It's
very impossible to me.
But I'm Rachel Maddow be
right and gotten a lot of money for it is in a very impossible
for me, especially since I've been in contact with him over
the past week. And he's very clear about the fact that he's
free to leave Russia at anytime, that the only barrier in His way
is the United States.
And you think that's true? You do not think that he I mean,
he's he talked to you about. I mean, I'm not saying this about
the nature of Edward Snowden. I'm talking about the nature of
the Russian state and Vladimir Putin, who spent his whole life
in the KGB, and like, you know, doesn't necessarily play patty
cake when this stuff is on the table. So you're saying that
they what is this reference?
I have no idea Hello,
and off the Array? Hello, 1950. We'd like our analogy back. He
just
has not had interactions with Russian intelligence.
I think there's I think there's a lot of different factors,
you know, and when I hear this, and we have to be so careful,
because you get caught up in easy terms like Amnesty is all
over, they're taken care of like amnesty, like some magical the
organization from God that comes down and has no financial
interest or backing from anybody, you know, or Human
Rights Watch. Oh, yes. Oh, my human rights. And now it's
Russian intelligence. What do you know about Russian
intelligence, you idiot
and play besides the fact that the Russian government would
like to get this out their hands on this information? It's the
same thing with China. You know, the New York Times basically
made up the claim, which they phrased in terms of this might
have happened, that the Chinese government drain his laptops, I
think that he insists, didn't happen that in all the things I
saw when I was in Hong Kong with him, simply didn't happen.
Because there's a lot of different considerations that
the Chinese had, including wanting him gone so that they
didn't compensate.
I can't even get a word in. So is another thing is kind of
interesting if the Russians wanted to grab it. So if you
listen to the grant, this is part one. You heard it and I
think he indicates that again. Greenwald, supposedly at least
the way he's seems to tell the story has all
this stuff. Yeah, he should be arrested on the spot.
He should either be arrested on the spot or that the right why
would the Russians want to go through to the Snowden guy
Greenwald's hanging out in Brazil, which is wide open, if
you want to just go over to somebody's building and club
them, and then take their stuff? It would be a lot easier to me
to get to club, Glenn Greenwald, leave him in a pool of blood and
steal his material, which is the same thing supposedly, I don't
believe any of this.
No. And perhaps it's all the whole if I'm gonna go back to my
original premise. Glenn Greenwald, and the freedom of
the press foundation and all these people and Leni
Riefenstahl lawyer, Laurie Pape Poydras. And, and the tour guy,
and WikiLeaks, it's all a big show, half of them have no idea
what they're doing. They're just so horny to get clearance, or
some other kind of perceived benefit, because that's how it
works in a police state. Like, oh, I have clearance now. Oh,
yes, I'm special. Or I get invited to some things you know,
we I can meet a politician or whatever. So half of them are
just ignorant people because people get manipulated all the
time. But there are a few. Now John Perry Barlow, I'm looking
at you who know the score and are in there, handling the
situation. And it's a setup to me this year. So right, if this
guy has all this documentation, then if Russia or China wants
it, just go down there like Hey, Greg Greenberg a club, you know,
very simple. Hey, Glenn, what's that? Is that your laptop? Let
me take this drive. How
do you think, you know, how did you think Greenwald would react
to a 45 pushed up against his temple? And somebody saying we
want that stuff that Snowden gave you? And it was Greenwald
gonna do say no.
Or how about why don't you get to have to shoot
me?
Yeah. Oh, you can go right to the Washington Post. They
apparently have the documents. Yeah. So why don't we go Why
don't we go to the monthly meeting of the freedom for the
plus press Foundation? They all seem to have it they all seem to
Denny's yard. Damn, let's go grab her. She probably has it
sounds like everyone has a copy except us. Except that Chinese.
Chinese and the Russian intelligence no idea. No. And
it's this simplicity. This is Thank you, John. This is exactly
the simplicity that you have to take it to for for everyone to
understand what kind of BS this really is. It is it is total
bullcrap. Total. It's all it's like. It's kind of like the
Zimmerman trial. You know, if we had sat down to write it, we
would have probably come up with something similar. You know,
with the it's got all its got everything in there. But
remember, we had Court TV. And for a reason this is what people
want this is this is this is it hits all of our buttons we've
been conditioned to like this we really do is beautiful. And the
sad thing is that we have a large contingent of people who
are living online and who've grown up online. And, and
working in technology and understand much better how this
works. Then, then older, an older generation, and they're
all in on the he's my hero. But you're it's a false prophet. You
see,
I'm not arguing about any of that. We have the third clip we
can listen to I'd love to find the final listen. And it this is
all kind of semi scripted because it ends right on time
when just a time for the commercial break. We're out here
quickly. There's a scoop you had yesterday about the NSA and
Microsoft working together? What do you think the significance of
it, I'd read it and it seemed to me that the most charitable
interpretation possible is that they are creating the technical
capability to be able to in the future execute lawful kinds of
searches for items they want. What do you think is worrisome
about that scoop?
The Silicon Valley companies have continuously said that they
only do the bare minimum the law requires to work with the NSA.
And what this shows is this constant collaboration and
collusion on the part of Microsoft to build systems to
allow all sorts of access to Skype to Allah to these cloud
systems, way beyond what the law requires. And the idea that they
need a warrant in each individual case is untrue. They
only need a warrant when they're targeting American citizens, not
when they're scooping up onto communications, including ones
involving Americans, Glenn Greenwald, from The Guardian.
Thanks so much for
let me let me say a couple of things. First of all, I looked
for a clip I could not find any clip of this, because it was in
an Argentinian newspaper. Glenn Greenwald's latest, which of
course, is being propagated now by Reuters predominantly is,
here we go Guardian journalist Glenn Glenn Glenn Greenwald,
said in an interview published Saturday that the US should be
quote, on its knees begging, that nothing bad happens to NSA
leaker Edward Snowden because the information that would then
be revealed would be the country's worst nightmare. Okay,
so now these these are
words, and by the way, yeah, go on.
Go ahead. No, go ahead. Say it.
I'm just saying this just seems like it's an overt threat from
Glenn Greenwald,
has been this. This for me, John, this discredits him as an
unbiased journalist. This is not how a journalist works.
know you're not supposed to hit 100%. But this is, this is
something
I would say
if that's right. And if that if all that is at some point, why
doesn't he turn it into a story, not just some through some
interview he did. The stories of Stockton is all about Glenn
Greenwald being interviewed. Well, he's gonna gloat into
WikiLeaks. If anything happens, he gets killed. It's gonna be
it's got a deadman switch.
He's got copies all around the world. Exactly. Okay. So what
what are the results here now?
And by the way, well, let's read let's back up the truck for a
second and remind people what you said earlier, which is that
if you took this entire package, and ship and they showed it to
the intelligence agencies, and they said, We got no problem,
man, how does this even make sense? What you just said, okay,
in other words, how does this it's gonna destroy the country?
At worst nightmare. It's all contradictory. But what do we
have now we have the following. We have a media shield law being
set up, which is partially because of what it's all it's
very related. It's all it's all interrelated. Because we have
these spying on journalists. And we now we know how they do it.
We have all the information, so called information. And you
know, so this is all Thank you. Thank you very much, Miss Mr.
Snowden. So we have immediate shield law coming which is is
literally meant to obvious skate all kinds of stuff under the
banner of Nacho NowSecure. Secrecy hides. Right? We have
the Silicon Valley companies are now I mean, because Glenn Glenn
Glenn Glenn Greenwald, is a hitman. Keep with his piece
where he he accuses Microsoft, of aiding and abetting and being
and being a fascist, a fascist organization with the
government. This is a direct accusation by him, not using the
fascist word, but the definition of what he described is fascism
by accusing them without showing any source documentation without
showing the documents so he says he has it from an internal NSA
bulletin board, but he can't show that or you won't show it.
I'll get my why does he show it well, because it makes no sense.
But this is I get judged Eugene McCarthy. Eugene, but the
McCarthy character in the 50s should be holding the blank
sheets of paper. I'm talking about all the communists that
are in the government, but
let me show you how this works. Because you and I've known you
long enough and that you're, I know that you're not an in the
Cabal, because man, you would definitely have better clothes.
Hey, you're not in the Cabal. But what happens is, Glenn
Greenwald threatens Microsoft by saying, You guys are complicit
you already doing this, you know, Skype you it's all in
there everything you'd let him in, you'd suck. You're horrible.
And what happens? You get true journalists like John C. Dvorak
writing an article saying, why would you trust Microsoft, you
should throw them out. So now Microsoft, believe me. There's
talk going on. They're like, Okay, what do you want us to do?
We give up. This is how the government
finished that thought. The first thing I thought of when I heard
this thing was, how much in the way of donations did Microsoft
give to the Obama campaign? Nothing. They boom, there it is.
Yeah.
Yeah. Hey, you sound like a rapper. So that's part of it.
That's where they go first. But they're going to do this with
everybody. They're going to do it with Google, they're going to
do it with Apple, they're going to do it with every single
company. It's leverage. It's like, Oh, hold on a second. You
don't want to play ball you want you. You want to try and be
transparent. Ah, no way. What you're gonna do is you're gonna
play ball by our rules. Otherwise, we're going to make
you look like your total aihole shill, and we're going to make
Dvorak right about it.
Well, my writing was not about what Greenwald talked about my
writing was the was the simple fact that Microsoft, which has
always known to have a backdoor, but no one's ever proven it.
Essentially, they close that door of doubt. And it just
doesn't make sense to me. Whether this book Greenwell is
doing is Hitman work or not. It just doesn't make sense to me
that someone in a foreign government would trust
Microsoft, even if it wasn't true. But why would you take a
chance? You don't take a chance? I mean, that's right. But
But can we can we agree that you probably would not have written
this article at this moment? And without the Greenwald story?
I won't agree with that. Because I actually had planned that
article over a week ago.
No, but I mean, in this time, period, I mean, you need
to go the overall green. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Not just that
wouldn't make any sense. Exactly.
So I think it's fair. And you're obviously you wouldn't be doing
this show, if you could make some real money working for
these eight holes. You know, so you know, so obviously, you're
not part of it. But that's how it works. That's exactly how it
works. You get this go on then. And now Microsoft is there
hostage. They are held hostage, no doubt. And Glenn Greenwald is
out there. And he's the hitman. And they've got the goods on him
to I don't know what it is they've got on him because he's
not doing it. Right. I mean, we both agree that the least you at
the very least she's like, I got a book, you know, I got
something else and I gotta promote something. They're not
paying him to do all this.
I think he may be writing it. They may be writing the book as
we speak
up possibly, possibly
his book, and then the book will magically appear, I can assure
you as a writer, that that kind of attention and even the
article writing that Greenwald is doing currently and all the
attention he's getting in all the conversations that must be
going on. If he comes out with a book, within six months, I would
be stunned. I mean, you just I mean, he I would be stunned if
he'd actually written it because you there's only so many hours
in the day. And you can only really write the most any
professional can write if there's zero distractions,
because they can maybe hit 10,000 words in what single
setting once in a while now. There are no
I mean, this guy he's barely sleeping. He has no time to
write a book right now. He's doing interviews. You can't like
that. Yeah, for Yeah. For interview or that's not fair. If
you look, it's I've been on this train. It's great when you get
on the on the train. And you got the BBC calling in the New York
Times and Charlie Rose it you know, it gives you a huge boner.
It does. It's great. It's you know, but Greenwald is I mean, I
don't know. I think they got the goods on him then maybe
something about that porn porn site that he's been running or
something. I don't know what it is. I don't care. But they got
the goods on him. And maybe this is kind of the payoff, but go
back to the original premise that he was working for salon
which is being paid for by NSA compatriots, namely Adobe. So
you know, he, look we're all compromised in one way or the
other. I know I have at least five people handling me.
Thank you wish. No, I'm
sure for sure. For sure. Yeah, absolutely. Come on this 5
million people. Working in intelligence in the United
States alone, that have some kind of clearance, 2 million of
which have tops top secret clearance. You're telling me
that not not one or two of these emails that I get continuously
from some people is not handler? Oh, absolutely.
I can name two or three that are handling you.
Yes. Yeah. You want to name somebody big boy.
I don't feel like but I could.
I know you could. I can. I think I can. I can name five. That's
why I say but it's okay. Because I often reply and said, You're
the you're one of the best handlers I have. It usually goes
quiet for a day or two after I say that.
Just get them to donate. Who cares? Now they donate to it.
That's the best part. That's a good yeah, they're not donating
enough. Yeah. Anyway, so
the I think I learned a new term. I think Glenn Greenwald
may have to be careful for Boston breaks. Have you ever
heard this term? Nope. It's a beauty. The Boston breaks
producer sent it to me, there's a link in the show notes and the
Boston breaks started in the I think the 80s where the mob in
Boston would you know like disable brakes or you know, like
and but not like kill people or try not to kill people. But it's
like the daughter of some rival guy and then they you know, that
have her slam into a light post and have the accelerator or the
speedometer looked like she was doing 200 You know, stuff like
that, which is all completely doable.
Oh, yeah. Nor doable today than ever. Yes.
Oh, before I forget one of our other producers on cheese. We
got so many has been requesting stuff from Los Angeles regarding
Michael Hastings. He's requested the coroner's report, which is
not yet available. He got a response on that but he also
requested a copy of the 911 tapes. And let's see so I have
the Los Angeles Police Department reply here reviewed
your request for 911 calls bla bla for the June 18 2013 600
block of Highland involving Michael Hastings and then they
go into why they can't release the tapes and why they don't
have to release the tapes but they gave us a call log with a
summary I'm gonna see 1234567 calls four of which I shall read
to you June 18 time of occurrence not providing a call
factual circumstance call report an accident car exploded caller
was transferred to Los Angeles City Fire Department number two
here called reported a huge accident car had blown up called
the transferred to Los Angeles City Fire Department caller
reported a traffic collision he is not involved there's possibly
a fatality because there was a giant explosion now the thing
here's the thing that that is that will somewhere has to be in
the report as as a hallmark of the Boston breaks and Boston
breaks can be it's also a term that is used by the mob for
airplane crashes small airplane typically but the hallmark of
the Boston breaks no skid marks yeah there's no skid marks and
no skid marks in the Hastings thing either zero
now I want to go back because I'm actually even though I'm
supposed to be more skeptical people by the way, I guess were
divorced less skeptical but Adams ideas and I'm gonna just
bring this up yeah I'm That's Adam has not gone into his water
powered cars and his space aliens and a visitation with
them and all that stuff where I'm skeptical he's been doing he
has real source material and are supposed to be skeptical about
when somebody like just now reads the log and it says
explosion explosion explosion or blew up and and the thesis of
course, which I think is a very good one and can be easily
looked into which is the idea that a drone hit the car now.
I'm thinking he was doing the Posey doing 100 miles an hour
and there was a picture of me zooming through a red light that
that's been around the internet's yeah
by a paparazzi and he was going the wrong way. Okay, well, we'll
forget that.
But whatever the case was this assuming he was going fast.
Yeah. It would be like somebody what if he got a call saying
hey, you know, they've got a they've got a drone on you. blow
you up, get out of there. So he was trying to get out of the way
and again, and here's what I want. Somebody's got it. One of
our listeners gotta be in the LA area with a Geiger counter.
These drones are tinged with with uranium, depleted uranium.
I don't know those are one of the ones we shoot a brown people
to white people don't get
to you really doubt that we have like special drone heads that
are going to kill somebody. Of course, most of them don't
believe that the depleted uranium is that bad of a thing.
But hold on, this was not a Predator drone with a Hellfire
that would have made quite a hole in the on Highland Avenue.
If this was a drone.
Okay, you're right, it had to be a smaller, much smaller budget
likely to meet if you have a uranium tipped, or whatever. Why
didn't he like the
whole idea? Like the idea of people getting contaminated and
dying later?
Right, especially in Hollywood. So I'd like to move on to you
know, it would be a it I just don't think is outside the realm
of possibility that a drone would take this guy out or take
out that train car up north with the exploding crude oil. It just
seems too easy to do it that way. Why why plant a bomb in the
guy's car? Right and then remotely trigger it? You know,
maybe the could have been that it's possible. And you know,
with a phone, you know, you call the guy up and boom, his car
blows up. But kind of No, it's just the whole thing is fishy.
And if they think there's no, nothing to suspect you're the
LAPD is obviously just been told to shut up and stay quiet.
Well, we'll see. We'll see. I'm like, I really liked that our
producers are asking for this information they're doing for
your request. That's pretty good. That's pretty bold. I dig
that.
Yeah, well, it was. So this guy was blowed up. For some reason.
We still don't really know why.
Well, we do kind of because
we think we think that may be a reason but I'm not convinced
that it's that simple.
It could also just be purely a message.
Yeah, may have nothing to do with him.
I think a lot of people took the I listened. I heard it. Oh, my
God. All right. I'm not gonna miss weekend. You didn't take it
that way?
No, not really.
No. I'm I'm I listen very closely. Boston breaks to me is
like, okay. All right. I get you. I'm all good. Let's stay in
Boston for one more second. We're actually not in Boston.
Let's go to the hill. Three hours of C span testimony I was
very excited about about the Boston bombing. And, of course,
we have our homeland terrorism oversight committee happened to
look and it started off like this.
The committee is meeting today to continue our series of
hearings examining the Boston bombings of April 15 2013. I now
recognize myself for an opening statement.
I'm going to by the way, when I walk into a room,
I'm going to do that you recognize yourself. Hello,
everybody,
the mirror first. Hi, everybody, I recognize myself for an
opening statement about my entrance. Hold on.
I want to thank the witnesses for appearing here today. This
is an open hearing. And today we will vote on convening a closed
session tomorrow to receive classified testimony. So already
I'm like, Oh, really, this is gonna be this is gonna be bogus.
There's gonna be nothing good in here if the real testimony is
tomorrow
from the Department of Homeland Security, and the National
Counterterrorism Center. Unfortunately, the FBI has
refused to appear, oh, really now and continues to refuse.
This committee's appropriate requests for information and
documents are crucial to our investigation into what happened
in Boston.
Let me guess is that because they can't find the video of the
Sarnoff brothers putting the bombs into the trash can? And
could that be a John the video that everyone knows exists? But
no one has
ever seen it? Even though we've seen every other video and known
demand,
including the governor, that no one has seen this video. Could
it be anything like that? Could that have anything to do with
it? Possibly,
maybe three months ago, there was a terrorist attack in our
country. And it is this committee's responsibility to
find out how we did not see it coming. What concerns me greatly
is that the problem at the heart of preventing the Boston
bombings is the failure to share information that is being
witnessed now in this very room.
That's right. There you go. And then we have and this is one of
our producers again, who caught this and I just find it
interesting. You know, the guy Jeff Bauman, the guy who
apparently had his legs blown off and was in the wheelchair
and everything and remember that guy who everyone's like, Oh, you
see, did you think? Well, he's it's his healing process is
remarkable. NBC Nightly News had a piece on him aware as it's
incredible how quickly he has healed and I haven't I was gonna
ask Miss Mickey because she has some experience about this type
of particular wound. But I was I was very sick yesterday. I have
to tell you about that later. So it didn't get to because it's a
weird topic, weird conversation. But this guy has healed very,
very quickly. He's already using prosthetics to walk around. And
they amputated his leg above the knee. And again, I just don't
know enough about the topic, but if it looked like his his
injuries were below the knee. And I would think that it might
be handier to have the knee I don't know, I don't do any of
this. But he threw this line out, which was mind boggling.
Jeff got to throw out the first pitch at Fenway and was invited
on hallowed I said a Bruins game.
See, like 20,000 people yelling for you. And clapping is pretty
intense. Just three weeks ago, Jeff took his first steps with
the help of his new prosthetics. What have you learned about the
resilience of the human body? It's crazy. It's really tough.
It's It's insane. I mean, I'm a quick healer. They were calling
me Wolverine is the next one guy that heals really quick. How do
you remain so?
They call him Wolverine, which would just happen to be in
theaters now. Oh, God. There's no reason for them to call him
Wolverine.
Yeah, there is none. But unless he's a dead ringer for Hugh
Jackman.
No, but it's in theaters now.
Yeah, that's, that's that's bad job by whoever that was. Well,
and this morning, I had another producer and and I wasn't
getting it. I was not. I was just not understanding what he
was telling me. And he was sending me these articles. Of
course, we had this kid, Cory Monteith from Glee died in a
hotel room. Right. And so he's sending me these links. He's
like, look, look, look, look, you've taught me how to do this.
You You're not seeing the connection. You're not seeing
the connection. Like what what are you talking about? And let
me see if I if I have done we have a Hollywood whackers
jingle. We used to.
I don't remember a jingle. Oh, yeah, there was something it
wasn't. Yeah, it was. I don't think you played it as much to
keep it you probably lost it.
I shouldn't have lost it. Anyway, doesn't matter. I'll see
if I can find it later. So this kid dies. And he sends me this
link. He says, no, no, this is about something else. Okay, what
is it? So here is the headline from variety after after
spending the past two weeks trying to turn the tide for
Pacific Rim. Warner Brothers and Legendary Pictures now are
bracing for what appears to be a gruesome inevitability for the
185 million plus dollar monster movie with a domestic opening
ranging between 25,000,030 5 million which is pretty much
failure. Now let me ask you, if you stood to lose, you know a
good 100 and 50 million or 100 million or even 20 20 million
that would you kill someone if you could turn the tide?
Me personally Yeah,
but no but if you were evil
Oh, if I was just one of those Hollywood guys Yeah. Probably.
If you so where was this kid wack? No, by the way this this
movie The Pacific Rim is a it's a 13 it's a it's a G PG movie so
it's it's for kids who love Glee
Well there's a couple of things about this movie that are weird
that before you go on your finisher thing it first got a
lot of negative bad publicity early on because there's gonna
be a dog supposedly and it is singing and dancing monster
movie so I mean they're not done to music but they just
choreographed and all the rest JC actually went to see the
movie and he thought thought it was quite good even though he
was under the impression was going to be crap. Rotten
Tomatoes actually gave it a 71% plus so that was it wasn't a
rotten movie and the number of people that want to see it on
the Rotten Tomatoes website was extremely high. So for some
reason this movie there's something more to the story
because this movie was was a setup to ruin someone. And it
looks like it actually may not be a dog at the box office.
Well why don't you Google Cory Monteith and click on any any
link and tell me what and tell me what phrase you see.
And again looking at the
if you can find the BBC link it's even I got I got the
Fox found dead and it is best known one of the stars the new
glee of a bond confirmed in Montes buys fine. Room 21st
floor Pacific ramp.
There you go. And every single story repeats the word Pacific
Rim at least five times. Hey, it's a Hail Mary, but it's not
entirely out of the question.
But there's something very suspicious about this film. And
I believe there's two stairs one side trying to sink it and one
side trying to make money on. I don't know. But that is
peculiar. A peculiar coincidence. I actually stayed
at that hotel.
Wow, you got out just in time? Yeah, yeah,
I was there. Let me think that a show. By donating to no agenda.
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Thank you. Thank you very, very much for your contribution. I
was very very sick the other day.
Yeah, you were gonna say that. Yeah. So
sir Jean Baron of Texas sheriff of something no Baron de
Marriott, the Marriott sheriff of Texas was in town.
Okay, so what he tried to do, did he bring his pricker
well, so he took Ms. Mickey and I out to dinner, which was very
kind this was Friday. Where do you go to a trace? Do not miss
Mickey's choice, actually. And she's always easy when someone
else is gonna pay. And so we come back and he says, Look, I
got some cigars.
Oh, you smoke a cigar and you got sick? Well, here's a Cubanos
they were Special cigars are not good. They were not anything
identified specifically as Cabano. But they were. I hadn't
smoked a cigar in over a year, mind you. And of course, I
haven't smoked at all and you don't really inhale cigars, but
you better not know. So we're outside and of course, it's 95
degrees and we're out until on the back porch until I think
Jean left around quarter to two. And so I smoked one cigar with
him and drank one or two Scotch with water, which is what I
typically drink. And I woke up at seven in the morning and I
almost asked me to take me to the hospital. And so I had my
hug
of this morning at seven No,
yesterday Okay, yeah, Saturday, maybe it was like
partying the night before the show that's my
well number but check it out. We weren't partying so obviously my
mouth tasted like a dead bird had shit in their
cigars is terrible.
But what had happened is the mold allergy I had not realized
that the mold is like it the highest ever. And you'll recall
what happens with me it's my brain swells up. And so as I my
head was exploding, I had to I had to stay home all day. I was
like, I was lying down. I was completely hammered. And I have
to eat all these, you know, the nettles and the corset 10 and
everything. And this morning even though we went to bed on
time I still woke up with a little bit of a headache so it's
very problematic this this mold allergy
but you blame the mold? Well at the cigar and all the booze.
There
wasn't that's what it was. Because I didn't drink anything
last night. I didn't smoke anything last night. At first I
thought gene had literally poisoned me I'm like that's it
because we all know Gene we all know we're gonna go I swear I'm
like Mickey
nobody dressed me just because I'm Russian I think
Gene has poisoned me take me that's why I was like take me to
the hospital. It's time
gene is poison a little paranoid that well.
Hello, Hastings Need I say more
good yeah and then the but disappeared What do you mean the
but disappeared? Let's get the poison would have been in the
car and Oh, right. reclaim it.
And yes, the cleaners came that day earlier than usual. scrub
down the house and took the bus. All the no agenda show. Just two
quick ones. Adam being a good producer. When asked to proceed
into the scanner, I politely advised that my left shoulder
prevented me lifting my arms above my head. It works down
under. He says now. This is our producer Aiden snorkle.
Actually, long story short into so they finally put scanners in
Australia. Zhang, this is really what this is about. You'll be
pleased to know that finally installed scanners in Sydney
International Airport. Yes, we're pretty slow on the uptake
and get mo down under. We're probably buying the old ones
that they were decommissioning up there where you guys are
using rapid scan. What were they? I don't know. He didn't he
didn't tell us. Yeah, we'll know. So anyway, being good
producer, he advised his left shoulder prevented him from
lifting his arms. The confusion that ensued was hilarious.
That's always fun when you can confuse officials. Long story
short, they apparently had an opt out procedure, but no one
knew what it was being the good citizen that I am. I inducted
the security staff at Sydney Airport into the no agenda valet
program with helpful suggestions. Like instead of the
instead of the scanner, you have to pat me down and someone needs
to collect my things for me, then you can swab me and my bag,
telling them how to do it. Everything went according to
plan until the security agent advised me pre pat down hand one
metal detector scan to go collect my bag from the X ray
table, pack it all up and bring it to the balm material trace
scanning for scanner scanner for scanning. To reiterate, I was
asked to pack my own bag up from the X ray machine and could have
put whatever I wanted into my pockets back into the scan bag
before I was treated to the hand massage. I was really looking
forward to blender. Yes, he's I was really looking forward to my
first valet service experience. So even when I asked the agent,
are you sure I'm allowed to touch my stuff before I'm pat
down to which the agent replied, yeah, that's fine. Nice to see
that with all the new DNA scrambling security technology
it all comes unstuck with someone who isn't interested in
being a slave for what it's worth. In the layover in Dubai,
I declined to try any na valet tips. I never know what grain of
something might be on this All of my shoe their mind led me in
jail over there. Anyways, thank you very much NorCal for trying
to help out and getting the valet service and stated there
in Sydney, I'm surprised. Work it out. And finally Hans Hofner
deer out him even though I don't agree with everything you say, I
love it when people start off like that,
you know, I've always found it annoying. You get this I get it.
Because I just from writing columns for 30 years, you get
these letters that come in? I don't always agree with
everything you say? Well, you know, I don't know that that
wouldn't anyone would be so why do you say that? Yeah. I wonder
what that is? Just to assume I'm a free thinker. I want you to
just start that way. You know, I think for myself, and I liked
what you said. I don't know what the point what
is that? That is a very interesting phenomenon. Yeah,
the 30 years you haven't figured out where that comes from what
now I've I've ever I'm always baffled by this has something to
do with either legitimizing for writing, I think it has
something to do with that. Or they want to get a little did
something you did is still in their craw. Give you the needle.
I don't agree with everything you say,
Okay, I think it's okay. If you say, Okay, here's how I would
say it. And I will accept this if you say, even though I don't
agree with everything you say? And excuse me for existing? I
think that'd be fine if you if you put those two together.
Excuse me for existing. But this is funny, because he says even
though I don't agree with everything you say you're doing
amazing work. I'm running into the danger of getting my
information only from the no agenda show. Which is not a good
thing. I agree. Yeah. As many sources of information are
better than one to form an opinion. Put it together, it'd
be. What can I interrupt again? Yeah, it's like there's another
aspect to this. You can get all the information you want from
the no agenda show. But what we're not trying to we're not an
information show. We are a show trying to enlighten you. It's
like why would you you know, give a guy a fish when you can
show him how to fish.
Oh, boy, you know what little thing I should write that down.
That's a great, it's a great speed
going to your Bible. So the idea is you really want to go and
revisit so you because the we give you the tools to laugh. You
have a great time watching.
Yeah, so we're giving you we're giving you laughter tools. Yeah.
Priests pronounced tools properly. tools, tools. It's
getting harder and harder to hear. Watch. Read today's
journalist. No, no. This is where you're incorrect. I agree
that we're giving you the tools so you can watch and go
watch those guys. Either way, that would make you incredibly
annoying any in any crowd, which is really fun.
Yes, no, that's the entire point.
Yeah, I don't understand why people don't get that. So before
we go into sigh I have actually a couple of funny clips I want
to play but before we do that don't have any clips. But we
have to say something about Janet Napolitano. I will let me
say Finish this show on Thursday. And boom, she quits.
Okay, first of all, I'm very, very, very, very, very sad.
First, Hillary now, Lucy. This is bad. It's Tara, who am I
gonna make fun of and there's gonna be nobody left.
Anybody else? Like those two? There's
nobody left over.
Hillary will be back. But yeah, well, Palatine was done. No,
I have a theory on this.
Good because I don't Oh, I mean, if there is the basic one that
we'd come out with, with no agenda, thank you, which is they
put her at the University of California to make sure the
recruits, you know, had a clue early on.
No, this is a little bit longer game, although that's a perfect
place for her to go. So first, we have to know that
everything's coming undone. The stuff is going to unravel. There
is you know, we have this the lawsuits you know, the we
haven't talked about him in a while. But that whole
organization is ill. It's a very you know, there's women who are
harassing men. There's been lawsuits about this that gets no
play in the media. But really, it's a very
it's a sexual harassment by lesbians in the US Department of
Homeland and it's been talked about it's been the suits have
been filed. Yeah,
you can you can find the papers and everything. And it's a very
unfriendly unhealthy environment. I'm convinced of it
and this stuff. I mean, look, you only have to look at the TSA
to know what's happening at the top that it's rotten at from top
to bottom. The FBI is now not showing up at hearings because
they've messed it up. And it's going to come to there is a
slight possibility that there's going to be a huge revamp going
on. Because you know, why not? We might as well you know this
is a big organization, a lot of money. And in the end, it's all
made up stuff. It's all stuff we don't need. So it's, I think you
need some bad stuff to come out so that then we can have new
person come in and rebuild it, and it'll be invigorating. And
the whole security industry will love it. It's got to be cyber.
And you know, I think really, she needed to go once she
admitted that she doesn't even use a computer. That was kind of
her. You know, that I think everyone's like, okay, you know,
why did you have to say that? You did? Why do you have to go
and ruin the fun? You were doing? Great.
I don't think she she, if you're not if you're so far out of it,
that you you wouldn't know not to say that.
Open up the book. I want you to put an entry in. Because I know
where this is headed. This is this is not just her going into
an education. Are you kidding me? I would say Ruth Ginsburg
should not be eating any oysters. Ruth Ginsburg, who was
a Supreme Court justice is going to die in the next year. I'm
sorry to say it. And Janet Napolitano will be our next
Supreme Court Judge replacing Ruth Ginsburg.
That'll be a wash actually been improved? No,
no. I think it's going to be very frightening. Now, it could
be any it could be. It could be Thomas. I mean, he could just it
could happen that he could just have a heart attack, but it
would have to be cool with him. Like
you're not going to do something that extreme. It would
be wouldn't be cool, though. If If Chief Justice Clarence Thomas
died on top of a hooker.
Well, let's put my little thing here, which is
putting the book because as a side note, just in case, you
plan for
an idea if you want to go into this in this direction, mainly
because it kept being brought up in the conversation. Alito Okay,
possible because if you remember we've been tearing Oh, I had
Judge Alito. His paperwork right in my hands. They were you know,
spying. It was one of them. It was the Tice guy. He was talking
about it, everybody. That's very good. Very good. Yes. So blowers
that are supposedly whistleblowers Nana say there.
They kept mentioning Alito Alito, Alito, they could be code
write it down. Alito Boston breaks. Alito Boston breaks
Janet, Supreme Court. You can feel it. She can feel it. I
know. She said she's a lawyer. She's she's all in Yeah, well,
it
can't happen right away then because they no, no, no, no, no,
no tougher. It's gonna take it's got to be near the end of
Obama's administration.
Of course it has to be before 2016 obviously, but they have
they needed someone they needed the right person and she doesn't
have the right resume. Yeah, she's been governor. You know,
she's been she's run a huge department now she gets to do
the educational part is perfect. She'll have everything she
needs. She'll have the you know, the background of the education
I
have to dog here this page then because it's gonna be way out
there.
So good. Can you just slip a note in it? A lanyard Do you
have no agenda lanyard? Have
lots of lanyards.
Slip a lanyard in there. I Lido I'm saying it's either Clarence
Thomas on top of a hooker or Samuel Alito with the
candlestick and the Boston breaks.
We'll see. But the one that really is probably the closest
to being too old is definitely
Kiki. Kiki Ginsburg.
Yeah, that's that's what her nickname is. No, that I did not
know that. Yeah, I didn't know her name was Kiki. That's fine.
Yeah, Kiki. A good friend of hers told me that. Years ago, I
always thought that was weird that no one's ever picked it up.
So I have a couple of very funny clip that just kills me as
Claire McCaskill. Doing C span doing an investigation of robo
calls. And this is the Claire and Rachel clip and who is
Claire McCaskill. Claire McCaskill is the woman that was
supposed to be run out of town by the Republicans, but then
they had the guy that ran against her as just senator, the
douchebag who went on about legitimate rape or something
stupid and they couldn't win anyway. So she's running through
this. This investigation I think is pretty funny.
Fraudulent robocalls have since filled the void and have become
the source of understandable anger and frustration among the
public. These automated pre recorded telemarketing calls
that often seek personal information from unsuspecting
consumers are an annoyance at best, but they can be
devastating for those that are defrauded by them. You It's easy
to see how consumers can easily be confused by these calls. One
common scam involves a call from Rachel from card holder
services, offering an easy way to reduce consumers credit card
interest rates.
Hello, this is Rachel at cardholder services calling in
reference to your current credit card account. There are no
problems currently with your account, it is urgent that you
contact us concerning your eligibility for lowering your
interest rate. Your eligibility expires shortly so please
consider this your final note. Please set the number one on
your phone now with a live operator and lower your interest
rates or press the number two to discontinue further known. Thank
you have a great day.
Another common scam involves robo calls, warning consumers
that their auto warranty is about to expire.
This is an important message regarding your automotive
warranty. We have made several attempts to reach you this is
your final courtesy call before your vehicle is reclassified.
Press one to speak to a warranty specialist or press two and your
file will automatically be closed. In both examples with
the press of a button the consumer is directed to an
individual whose job it is to collect financial information in
an effort to defraud them even pressing the button they claim
removes a caller from their list does nothing more than identify
a phone number as valid likely increasing the frequency of
unwanted calls in the future
that's a good that's a good clip it's not quite Clip of the Day
but
it's good well you know I never got the one about the car but
it's pretty funny
well the the if I can just say we get that all the time now
because you know I bought Miss Mickey the secondhand Ford right
and so we we don't even listen to the phone rings all day here
the one that we have as a part of the Time Warner service was
it's why even bother as my really we shouldn't even have it
anymore but the but now we're getting all these warranty
things like oh you know your warranties expiring and you look
at it at face value like oh what is this? What do you have to
look for a second because you know I bought extra warranty
with the car. So you do have like this moment of what don't
know what's going on? Of course we figured out that it's a scam
pretty quick but it's a big one it's and it's and you get on the
list. That's what happens you buy a car boom, you're on the
list. Even mechanics bank is sending me weird shit now that
we have, we have no we have debit cards, and we we once got
a credit card. And we use it once and paid off the balance.
And we are literally getting envelopes from our bank John
mechanic saying
yeah, so obviously coming from the MasterCard peep important
information and closed you have zero balance. Yeah. This is not
good. You need to use it. And I have a whopping $2,800 I can.
So reliable. So they just saw the second clip, which is the F
just to get an idea of the of the complaints that come into
the FTC play the FTC clip about these calls.
Law enforcement officials have estimated that telemarketing
fraud costs Americans over $40 billion annually. So it is no
wonder that robocalls consistently remain a top
consumer complaint at the FTC as well as the FCC. The FTC alone
receives more than 200,000 complaints about robo calls
every month.
All right. So here's the deal. Why isn't the NSA doing
something about this? What do you mean, when you get all this
stuff? They got all the kids track these guys down? These
guys are if you listen to the whole hearing, everything these
guys are doing is illegal. Yeah, they're running it in and out of
the Ukraine and all over the world is none of these calls are
coming from the United States. By the way, when Rachel calls
you, it's bullcrap. But there's there's there's facilitators,
there are companies that take the credit cards, there's and
they're American, and we have the NSA, which apparently
recording everything, including all these calls that are coming
from these phonies, and they can track anything. Why doesn't our
governments put a stop to this when we have these intelligence
agencies spying on every single American 24/7 It makes no sense
to me.
Is it possible that this is the NSA that they're just using know
all of your information and then to give you stupid off and then
they're
also scam you so they can get the 40 billion in their coffers
as a funny idea, but but it's just no way they're not doing
the worst the FBI in this. These people. There's not buying it
that these guys are so good with these robo calls, that they
can't be found. The CEO can be found. I think that's funny.
going on for years is Rachel.
Right? You're absolutely right. I don't know what, maybe they're
not motivated. You tell me what do you think?
Maybe you gotta convince them that Rachel's a terrorist.
Well, this yard I'm trying to. That'd be kind of funny.
Actually, for some reason, I can't get it to work. I think
our phone is busted. I think I should. I should play back a
couple of the calls that we get here at the house, you should
record them because we only get the only ones I get now is I get
Rachel still she keeps calling and even. Oh, you
actually have gotten Rachel. All the time. Oh, daily. You should
talk to her a little while
and it says right on the caller ID Card Services. Card Services.
Yeah, I just lived in hang I mean, I don't even pick it up. I
just hang up on him. You know, I
got on, I got a request. I got sold around. And so whenever 202
calls me I know not to answer. In fact, I bet you I can play a
202 if you're interested.
But when you answer the phone go, this call may be recorded.
For What's it what's the words they use for customer safety
assurance or something
for your for customer? I don't know, what do they call it?
I didn't know when they do that though. I'm going to I think I'm
gonna do that. We'll just call may be recorded.
So I got on a list, probably when I interviewed Ron Paul.
Oh, yeah, that would make sense. And that
is how long ago?
Two and a half years ago, more than that it
was that? No, it was the 2008 election. Oh, it was then it was
that long ago. Right. So this is July 3 2013. From a 202 area
code, which of course is Washington, DC.
Hey, Adam. Hey, Adam, Cory Hubbard with the coalition to
reduce spending giving you a call to follow up on that letter
from Peter Schiff.
And why I never got a letter from Peter Schiff. By the way,
Peters. Yeah, I know.
People that used to work for Gary Johnson back in when he was
running for president in Oh, and she does as well. And we got
your name, we thought you'd be interested in what we're working
on now. And I'm gonna be out in San Francisco in two weeks. I
wanted to see if you could spare 20 to 30 minutes to sit down
with me briefly. So I could talk to you about some of the really
exciting things we're working on for this coming year. My number
is 2026.
Wouldn't it be funny, I'm gonna pick out a
robo call right. Now. This is a real person. Oh, she was
actually telling you this and just leaving a message on our
machine. Yeah,
this is a message machine. Yeah.
123. I'll follow up via email and hope to hear back from you.
Again. I'll be out there in two weeks, and would love to get
your ear.
I want to call her back and go hey, can you take off your
dress? What are you? What are you wearing right now? She
doesn't doesn't have kind of a kinky sexy voice. Yeah, you'd
listen. Let's
see Adam. Hey, Adam, Cory Hubbard with the coalition to
reduce spending giving you a call to follow up on
chick voice may be a little bit but we'd listen for a second.
I'm working with a couple people that used to work for Gary
Johnson back in when he was running for president in Oh,
listen, she has a very slight very slight thing going on.
Well,
and we got your name we thought you'd be interested in what
we're working on. Cisco in two weeks. I wanted to see if you
could spare 20 to 30 minutes to sit down with me briefly so I
sit down with you briefly. I got some ideas for you
I'm gonna call her back. What is wrong with you?
I'm gonna I'm gonna call her back and harassing him. Hey Cory
Yeah, I got to 2030 You know I want you to sit down briefly but
over here are deep briefly if you don't want to sit on my lap
people stop calling me I know all you want is money Peter
Schiff How does Peter Schiff now get my number Peter Schiff
That's what she said but
anyway if they want money from you want to just get it from
him?
Well, which leads me to believe he's he's a scam. He's got no
money.
It's possible a lot of these guys are that way he's got no
money.
Peter Schiff, what's he up to? Now? It's always predicting the
end of the world. He's like one of those perpetual bears.
Yeah. And of the world.
Yeah, here we go. Peter Schiff. This is the classic Peter
Schiff. Gold is on the verge of his biggest rally ever. Yeah,
I buy that by the way. I'm totally in on that.
Yeah, you are and this keeps falling.
By the way,
reality will clobber Japan, says Peter Schiff.
I do want to make very clear that I love my wife and that I
need no other sex but sex from her. Because I think at a
certain point, she listened to the show it's got
those What is wrong with
you data and does it show some pictures? What is wrong? What is
wrong? So my husband
something's wrong with my husband. And I can always say
it's the Tourette's honey. It's just the Tourette's.
I outlined in the examiner from last year. Cher has new crush on
TV host What do you want to settle down done with bikers?
The story just kind of came and went, what was Chris Hayes that
douchebag on MSNBC? No, that's that's who Cher was with. No she
was had a crush on him. She made a big stink about it. Chris we
were just when Hayes was getting his he was getting upgraded on
MSNBC. And this is a publicity stunt of no wear masks to
protect from MERS Coronavirus. Saudi officials asked pilgrims
if you notice this what do you think? I think I'm going to put
in the Red Book. I think they're gonna try to make something make
hay with this. Saudi specific killer bug.
I'll tell me about this.
You don't know about it? No. The Middle Eastern emerge M er s
which sounds
Oh, yes. Yeah, Middle Eastern wrote a retro roto virus or
whatever.
Middle Eastern respiratory Respiratory Syndrome? Yes. Yeah,
well, it's killing 50% of the people who have it except for
apparently the people who have it and they'd have no symptoms
whatsoever. They don't know how to count those could be
everyone. And more importantly, the story in the LA Times again
about Saudis which makes me suspicious. Saudi Arabian
consulate posted princesses $5 million bail. Yeah, that's all
bull crap.
Who gives a shit about that?
I think they were they're running slaves down there.
Well, they are they are running slaves. That's exactly what the
God didn't. Who if you're around the house step away with your
cell phones annoying me.
I can hear that.
It's It's It's nonstop. It's like someone's literally like
I'm looking for the.on My forehead you know where are you?
Step away.
I heard a dead time.
It's just keeps going and the phone is I've turned the phone
off. Wait. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry NSA. Maybe I should take
the battery out. Is that how I have to do it now because you're
turning it on remotely or something? Is that what it is?
This will be a good test.
Yeah, yeah. take the battery out.
I'm going to right now. Let's take it let's see if it stops
on. Okay, battery's out. Let's see if it ends that will be
pretty funky wouldn't it be great battery is out and I'll
let you know if I hear anything. I've got the battery but yeah,
they're running slaves. The Saudis Elia so my favorite line
was apparently some woman from the some black woman she goes,
once you get into Saudi Arabia, they tear up your passport and
do all these things. It's just hilarious.
Now there's something you don't marry a Saudi women. There's
something asked me to put in the show notes about the Chinook
helicopters flying over Portland.
Port Angeles had an invasion.
By the US Army by the US Army I might point out,
Mimi calls me up during the invasion. And I can hear where
she's saying that choppers are so loud. I mean, she says Can
you hear that? I can. I can hear that better. I can hear you. It
was there was apparently a bunch of ducks Chinooks and attaches.
And some jets flying over in a circle around Port Angeles in
the area. And it would they never call the local authorities
are getting something like 250 phone calls even though all the
news report says a dozen. And which is bullcrap because
everyone was calling and apparently was so loud. dogs are
barking going crazy. And there's just and then the army finally
turned out to be one of their facilities designed to do
training over the town.
And we forgot to tell all the citizens of the world hey, we're
going to be flying around scaring you.
And it was like 1130 to 12 midnight.
Can I point out that the phone interference has stopped since I
took the battery out of the phone that was turned off No,
this is this is a very significant discovery harness
and let's put it back in. I had the phone off yeah.
The phone you say was off? Yes.
Well, no. I mean it was the power was down. I'm going to put
the battery turned off. Yes. And then put the battery back in and
see what happens. See if it comes back. I'll put it over
there. Yeah, well this of course has been going it's been
ongoing. We've seen it in Florida. We've seen it in many
different states in the Midwest and it's all it's obviously it's
all to condition you for the coming apocalypse.
There are conditioning for crack down. Ya know, there's plenty of
plate you know, especially in the Pacific Northwest if you
want to just fly around like an idiot, wasting probably a
million dollars in taxpayers money over the town of Port
Angeles, you can just move south a little bit and it's just all
woods. There's nothing much of Washington state is, is very
empty.
Did you hear it? No. It's back.
What kind of phone do you have?
That's a note a Galaxy Note.
Maybe it's just shorting out? No,
it's the the transmitter is it is transmitting.
But you can't it can't be transmitted because you've got
it turned off. And just
be quiet. Be quiet. I'm telling you, it is now transmitting
again. It is not turned on. And it's transmitting.
What does that tell you?
tells me a lot. Believe me. Hey, let me there it is up. There we
go. Perfect. All right. So this phone is off. Okay, I'm holding
it down near the microphone. And I'm going to take people who you
maybe couldn't hear to the Skype and I'm gonna take the battery
out again. So clearly, no, this is what they always say. It's
like even if your phone is off, they can turn it on. They can
listen to it. It's transmitting your hearing. Did you hear it?
And I just took the battery out now. It should be gone. Yeah.
There you go. Big joke. Very funny, guys. Hahaha.
Well, wait a minute. If they want to hear anything, why don't
they just get to go on to no agenda stream? And yeah, they
can hear everything. They've got a huge microphone
and donate and donate. Yeah, donate
chibis
that is that is that's just crazy. It's transmitting. Well,
this is Android Of course. You know, it could also just be for
advertising purposes. It's Google a holes This is this is
this is why I'm so I'm not carrying a phone anymore. But
But I can't even have it on during the show because it has
to wear off during the show because we have it off during
the show. I have to take the battery out. Really? That's
quite
one of these days. We'll put some mercury batteries in there
as backup and then the SR will always work.
Well, I'm not gonna I'm I'm opting out. I'm not
participating in it anymore. I'm really not. Oh, crap. I have not
been carrying this phone around for ever since I told you two
weeks. Yeah, I have. I have not used the phone. I'm not taking
it out. I go out with
that for years. I very rarely use my cell phone you but do you
take it with you? Sometimes maybe if I forget, it's no big
deal.
Well, okay, but you know, for me, I've grown up always having
a phone around and and now I'm just like, you know, you want to
reach me? You can wait. I'll talk to you later. I
added to it always. I know. Nothing that important. What if
it's an emergency someone will say what if it's an emergency?
What what did you do before cell phones when there was an
emergency? You dealt with it? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, could be an
emergency you Are you walking around all day with a cell
phone? Because there might be a number how many emergencies?
Calls Have you gotten in the last five years that were so
important that you had to take the call immediately and take
action? There was no doctor?
No, there was only one call and I'm not expecting those anymore.
Because I've always told my daughter if you ever need to get
home or something and you don't know something's wrong or you're
drunk or whatever. You call me no questions asked. I'll make
sure you're picked up or I'll pick you up no questions asked.
That's what I've always said. And she called me once. Once in
the middle of the night to Dad, no questions asked. And no
question. Can you sent me she was in London. You send a car
for me says it will be right there. That's once that is
really the only time I can remember.
Yeah, that's it. So So that argument is bullcrap. Do we have
to she would have done fine going on her own if you could
she couldn't get a hold the she would have probably been less
happy. But yeah,
Can I Can we do one last thing here something that kind of like
a it's regarding Texas and the abortion thing and battleground
Texas and some information I've dug up a word it should we keep
that for Thursday. It can keep it's not it doesn't really
matter. Well,
if it's you know, I thought that we beat that one to death
already. But if you want to do one more thing, I want you to
finish it off. And then we can close the show. And then if
there is a refresh, okay.
We'll be fresh. Yeah.
So a report came out from the BBC, and it was very
interesting. It was facts of on induced abortion worldwide. And
someone forwarded this to me, and I'm sorry, it was was that
what that wasn't what it was called? It was called something
else on the BBC. Europe's abortion rules. That's what it
was called. So you're Europe's abortion rules and you be kind
of this is why I was kind of stunned. Thinking here we are.
We're in Texas. We're in crazy Red State Texas, horrible
Republicans who are actually have The audacity and this
passed Of course, this past the bill passed. It's now law in
Texas. Oh, Wendy
didn't get her way
when he didn't get her way. And this is there's a gestation
period of 20 weeks, so five months, you cannot just get an
abortion legally after five months without there being a
long time, it's quite a long time. without there being no of
course, danger to the mother severely deformed, whatever
child will have no life rape, incest, all that stuff still is
on the books, but it was 20 weeks. And then the, you know,
the whole making clinics very difficult to stay open, which is
just an extrapolation. Of course we know this is probably for
Rick Perry's sister who is going to open up new clinics which
will do this for 10 times the amount of money but that's not
what this is about. I was very surprised to read the rules in
EU countries. So I'll just go through some briefly Austria,
availability on request. But 12 weeks is the gestation period
there. Georgia station limit Belgium 12 weeks a women must a
woman must say she's in state of distress. Bulgaria on request 12
weeks only a woman is suffering from a proven documented case of
disease.
Anyway Wait hold on a second here your I've been led to
believe that the great liberal Europe is what we model
ourselves after for this sort of thing. This was
the surprise I had 12 weeks woman was claimed this is France
must be in state of distress because of her pregnancy after
12 weeks abortions are allowed only if the pregnancy proves a
grave danger to the woman's health. Germany woman must
receive proper counseling three days before the procedure. This
is stuff that has been been fought over in America. We don't
have this counseling. lets you know
that counseling is a right wing plot
12 weeks in Hungary women must obtain counseling. Okay. So I'm
like wow, I have been led to believe that the liberal Europe
was exactly the opposite. So I fire this off on a little email
to my respected and loved Obama bot female friends.
Oh, this is good. Oh, yeah. So
is this a show closer? Or is this a show close? Just
like a mean spirited? You're gonna be the worst old man?
Well, I have I stand I
admire this.
I stand on the shoulders.
Beyond my pale,
I'm telling you, I stand on the shoulders of giants. John,
looking at you. So here's the response I get back. I wonder if
the demand for abortions is lower in Europe due to easier
slash free access to birth control. Also, sex education has
got to be better in Europe than in the US. Hello, abstinence
only education. So perhaps women don't feel the need to fight for
abortion on demand their question mark, I'm actually
surprised Italy isn't more restrictive. I had assumptions
that between the influence of the Roman Catholic Church and
concerns over the low low birth rate of the Italians, there'd be
stricter abortion laws. So now I'm like, hold on a second.
Nowhere in this document did it's mentioned demand for lower
abortion for abortions lower in Europe. And so I said, Hey, you
know, that's not in the document. In fact, I found the
document and this is from guttmacher.org. The Guttmacher
Institute, which is gets its information from the World
Health Organization. And its most recent numbers are from
2008. And this is what I sent back. I said, Wow, I'm
astonished because if you look at the number of abortions in
North America in 2008, it was 1.4 million in Europe 4.2
million. Now, of course, you know, there's differences in
population. So there's also a number for a hold on. There's
also a number for abortions per 1000 women, North America for
every 1000 Women in 2008, there were 19 abortions in Europe. For
every 1000 women, there was 27 abortions. So I send this back
and I say, Holy crap, did you know that this exactly what you
and I said, Did you know that this free liberal thinking of
sex ed, free condoms, the free pill, everything Europe actually
has 3 million more abortions per year. 10% more per 1000 women.
And I'm flabbergasted by this and I get something back she's
Wait a minute. And so now my friend. She's like, Hey, this is
really weird, because I have a paper that actually says the
opposite that this is no this is not true. Oh, uh huh. Nice.
Yeah. Let me bring it up. Sorry. She said then, and I haven't
figured out where she got this from, but she's on lists, of
course. And this is from this is from the National Campaign to
Prevent Teen and Unplanned pregnancy. And their report from
October 2012 is titled unplanned pregnancy and abortion in the
United States and Europe. Why so different? And I'm like, wow,
this is a gem. So first of all, the National Campaign to Prevent
Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy is a non governmental organization.
And from the CDC, the Centers for Disease Control alone, it
received $100 million well funded organization. Yes. And I
look at this, and the first thing I think, and you, John,
you and I know, when you have an organization like this, you got
to keep the budget. The number one thing, when you have this
type of organization with this kind of money, your number one
mission is to keep the organization going, we're not
going to solve anything. Would you agree that that's kind of
what you have to do?
Yeah, that's what you want to do. Do you have you got this is
a pic. This is a
pay day? Yeah. Okay, so the title of this report is
misleading, at best, again, unintended pregnancy in the US
and Europe, why so different? Which of course implies there's
a huge difference. And we know the differences. Yeah, in
Europe, they're a lot higher. Now, here's the here's I'm not
gonna read the whole abstract, but a little piece from the
abstract. And this is, of course, what my friend had read,
quote, abortion rates have declined significantly in the
United States since 1981. But remain higher than many European
countries. Hello, bingo. There's your key word, many European
countries. So probably a couple that well. So again, trick
trick tricky.
So that, again, the title is unplanned pregnancy and abortion
in the United States and Europe, why so different? Not in many
countries in Europe. In fact, the study they did, John was in
a whopping four European countries of the 28. In the
European Union, which and I'm sure that France and Italy and
the United Kingdom and Poland and Portugal and Spain are very
sad. They were left out because what they chose were the
Netherlands and Belgium, which you can almost call one country,
Germany and Sweden. And they and they took the numbers from these
four countries and extrapolated it out. And this is the great
thing. In the report, they actually use the same they
reference the same good marker numbers for America and show the
same 1.4 million abortions 19 per 1000. But they never show
the European number. They only extrapolate these four
countries. And nowhere is there mentioned of I don't know the
fact that they're all monarchies and that you know, there's a
which is a totally different political structure. There's no
reference that in these exact countries cities have huge
Muslim populations. Amsterdam 14%, Brussels. 25%. Berlin. 10%,
Malmo 20% None of this is in the study No, it's all about all
they have much better sex education and they have free
health care and all this and meanwhile, I could take four
states from America and make our number even lower or much higher
depending on which state you want yeah, now it's obviously a
scam if I took Delaware Florida New York and Connecticut the
average point
is long since been made this is just manipulate this is like
cooking the books. They've cooked the books
so you'll appreciate the in their in their summary. This
report has sought to generate suggestive evidence no kidding
on which predictors might account for the high rate of
abortion in the US relative to Europe, which is a lie and which
might be most fruitfully explored in future research send
us more money that means of course it is can you believe
this shit
this is everything so to bring you right back around like they
like to do on the talk shows it's all about global warming
That's right we're all gonna die. Enjoy that global war if
only they had put that in there clearly the abortion rate
clearly the abortion rate is much higher due to global
warming I would have felt better than the we need to do more
studies yeah about study the other countries that make up
Europe hilarious. All right. Well, I guess I can put the
battery back in so that they can listen to our after show. Yeah,
because they really want yeah, they can hear me them.
As part of the show, what do they say? And actually, what is
their methodology for picking the art?
Unfortunately, that's pretty much it. Darren, coming to you
from the Travis heights hide out here in the capital of the drone
Star State. I'm very happy to say I'm Adam curry in the
morning to y'all.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, we always keep my
battery out of my phone. Who doesn't. I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll
be back on Thursday with another live show right here. On no
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