And then when we have like 50 TriCity terror strikes every
single week given like dead from like people like blown Stock
Exchange crash our entire economy has been no money going
to the ATMs which man can do this. Hey, we read this trade a
little bit of our security for liberty or whatever. I don't
care if we can't do this. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. Sunday,
June 23 2013. Time for your chemo nation media assassination
episode five to four. This is no agenda. Hello, howdy and Hi,
everybody from the Travis heights hideout in Austin tea
house in the morning. I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley at the mecca of tech and John C.
Dvorak.
I forgot to say I'm in the capital of the drone Star state
that would make your mecca of tech come out better. All right.
Here we are at No, actually John, I'm here at Moscow
Airport, where I'm here with many reporters and
photographers. It's just wild wild crazy John, we're waiting
for leaker Snowden to show up.
Tell me what you've learned Adam, while
I'm learning that everyone knows he's gonna be here and we don't
know Greg and Glenn Greenwald will be calling in soon. Who
seems to be his PR person now?
And you're sure they're gonna be at the airport not the train
station. No, no,
no, we have the graphics on screen we have the little Eric
for airplane flying from Hong Kong to Moscow so therefore we
know that he will be arriving here, John. Wow. This is this is
like porn for these people. It's totally TV news porn. What's
taking place now?
So it's like, of course get snowed in never read The
Confessions of an economic hitmen concerning these little
planes. But okay,
well, he's not taking a little plane. He's on an and he's like,
on an Aeroflot, like a commercial airlines and
Aeroflow. Yeah, you have to kill.
Yeah, no. And of course Wikileaks has to tweet his exact
flight number. This thing is it's so transparent what's going
on now. And you know, and so I retweet this WikiLeaks thing I
like,
yeah, it's just sneaking them out of the country by telling
the flight number. That's good work.
Yeah. And then of course, everyone's like, No, man, this
is good. They should do that. Because you is protected by
being public. Now. What? Do people not realize that
WikiLeaks is the CIA?
John F. Kennedy. Oh, fleas.
This is It's so crazy. What is going on right now. And I think
that such a perfect job is being done of sucking in the
alternative thinking masses, which are truly our masses,
people no longer believe the news media, because the news
media is now baiting them with little conspiracy nuggets. Like
here, take this conspiracy nugget. I have a little
conspiracy. cheat a little, little Dougie, treat here. I'll
give this to you. Let them all fight over that. It's just wow.
I mean, wow.
It's funny the way they've done that, too. They've got Alex
Jones on the one hand for the people who have to go off the
deep end and think they're gonna die at any minute. Yeah. And
then they have the end of the spectrum goes all the way to,
you know, the the moaning the conspiracy theory and everything
in between the people who don't know what a conspiracy is, yep.
It's just it's amazing, that spectrum of of reality has been
stretched to the limit.
And even our own our own audience, who I know listen to
almost every single show and they forget, they've already
forgotten the dislike, oh, the Snowden notes. I really think
you have to reevaluate where he stands in this debate. It is not
necessarily your hero or your villain. will let us remember
that this that he came forward, thanks to this video OG of this
documentary maker, Leni Riefenstahl, who also you know,
did the highly stylized video of him who has been doing all of
these NSA like exposure missions who has received half a million
dollars in fund money now there's a lot going on here. And
and since the did you see this Wired article about Kaiser
Alexander No, oh my god. Ah, no wonder they want to get the NSA
is being exposed. These guys are out of control. How much power
this this Kaiser Alexander this is not this is from the wired
threat level blog, which we know is a direct pipeline from the
CIA. And we've I think that's to most people that that's obvious.
I'll just read a little bit of this. In fact, the title of the
piece is the secret war infiltration assault sabotage
mayhem. Four years four star General Keith Alexander has been
building a secret army capable of launching devastating cyber
attacks now it's now it's ready to unleash hell. If that's the
that's the just the title of this piece. Inside Fort Meade,
Maryland, Top Secret City bustles 10s of 1000s of people
move through more than 50 buildings. The city has its own
post office Fire Department police force, but as if designed
by Kafka, it sits among a forest of trees surrounded by
electrified fences and heavily armed guards, protected by anti
tank barriers monitored by sensitive motion detectors and
watched by rotating cameras to block any telltale
electromagnetic signals from escaping the inner walls of the
building are wrapped in protective copper shielding. And
the one way windows are embedded in it with a fine copper mesh.
This is the unending
giant Faraday cage. Yeah,
this is the undisputed domain of General Keith Alexander, a man
few even in Washington would likely recognize Never before
has anyone in America's intelligence sphere come close
to a degree of power. The number of people under his command the
expanse of his rule, the length of his reign, or the depth of
his secrecy, a four star Army General his authority extends
across three domains. He is director of the world's largest
intelligence service, the National Security Agency, chief
of the central security service, that's the CSS John The Hitman
and commander of the US Cyber Command. As such, he has his own
secret military presiding over the Navy's 10th fleet and the
24th Air Force and the second army. Are you kidding me? This
guy owns us. It's no wonder the trended to try out his agency.
This is all set up to get rid of this guy and and out the the
secret. What should we call it?
So the SS? Yeah. Well, literally, maybe the Gestapo? I
don't know.
And guess what showed up in the mail here yesterday in the post,
but a CSS challenge coin.
You have a CSS challenge coin.
With holy crap with no return address.
Hey, whoever said that to me?
No, no, it came to the house. No, no. It came to the house. So
so the CSS has its own challenge. Right. You know,
what's his name? We saw the picture of what's his name's
Chuck Hagel, Chuck. Engels got a challenge going just his own.
And now there's this. There's this new guy doing the rounds. A
whistleblower who has been around for six or seven years, I
guess got no traction back in the day this Russell Tice, have
you seen him anywhere?
I don't know. I have not seen him anywhere.
Okay, so Russell Tice. He first caught my eye on MSNBC where
they kind of don't really even says no, here's what I want to
talk about. But they kind of shut him up a little bit. And
then he showed up on a couple of podcasts. And that's what I
really want to focus our attention on. But first here he
is a quick minute of him. Russell Tice former NSA
employee, he's a whistleblower, then I have to believe that he
is now being sent out by the agency to help uncover what
Snowden has had been sent to start. How will that go? To help
squash some of the outrage or confusion that's out there?
Well, I mean, there's a lot of disinformation going on. I've
always said, the situation is much worse. At some point, I'd
like to talk about that. Everything I've
seen here seeds. In the pre interview, they said they said
Shut up, you're not going to talk about it's a great catch.
You caught that
they fall back to the next line of defense we've seen in
previous, the previous director of NSA, and I've seen this
director, they're basically not telling the truth about what's
going on. And they look at what's coming coming at them
from Mr. Snowdens information and what's happened in the past
and they just fall back to the to the next line of defense. The
situation is much worse than what's going on. We know how
much worse. Well, for instance, NSA today is collecting
everything, including content of every digital communication in
this country, both computer and phone, and that information is
being stored indefinitely, and that's something that they're
lying about. And that facility out there in Utah is online
right now.
And the fact that they have said that they do not do that You're
saying that that's just a flat out lie?
That's correct.
Don't get much further with this guy there. But on the boiling
frogs podcast, he shows up again and again, I'm, I'm quite
convinced this he's being sent. But the information that he
gives us is just wow,
they went after. And I know this because I had my hands literally
on the paperwork for these sorts of things. They went in for high
ranking military officers. They went after members of Congress,
both Senate and the House, especially on the intelligence
committees, and on the the armed services committees and some in
judicial, but they went after other ones, too. They went after
lawyers and law firms, all kinds of heaps of lawyers and law
firms. They went after judges, one of the judges is now sitting
on the Supreme Court that I had his his wiretap information in
my hand to our former FISA court judges, they went after State
Department officials, they went after people in the executive
and the executive service, they were they were part of the White
House, their own people. They went after anti work groups,
they went after US International Corporate US companies that do
international business, you know, business around the world.
They went after US banking firms and financial firms that do us
international business. They went after NGOs that like the
Red Cross, and people like that, that go overseas and do
humanitarian work. They went after a few anti war civil
rights groups. So you know, don't tell me that there's no
abuse because I've had this stuff in my hand and looked at
it. And I in in some cases, I literally was involved in the
technology that was going after this stuff. And you know, when I
said to Overman I said, my particular thing is high tech
and what's going on, you know, is the other thing which is the
dragon that the dragon that is what Mark Klein is talking about
the dragon, the terrestrial dragnet? Well, my specialty is
outer space. I deal with satellites and everything that
goes in and out space. I did my spine via space.
My favorite kinds of spying, internet, internet bitches. It's
going through outer space. I'm liking this guy.
Yeah, well, they should drag him out of the woodwork. And he used
to be with the DIA. Yep, the Air Force Intelligence and then the
NSA. And I guess the NSA is the one who set him off.
And his. So here's the kicker is the person you spied on in 2004?
The big one, I'm giving you any names. This was in summer of
2004. One of the papers that I held in my hand was to was to
wiretap a bunch of numbers associated with was was a 40
some year old. Want to be senator from Illinois?
And, you know, I totally believe this. That makes so much sense
because yeah, you want to have the goods you want to blackmail
everybody. This is exactly what the FBI was initially set up to
do or what what the FBI became, yeah, well
under Hoover, under Hoover, and
it transformed and now the NSA who, really honestly until this
probably if you went on the street, and you asked any
American about the NSA, they'd be like, what is that? But never
heard of it?
So before we go on to the laundry, what do they need? What
is the NSA operation in Maryland need anti-tank barriers for
kids? In case the CIA comes trying to rip them down? This is
its own army inside inside the system, John this
so they actually showed them the who had who has tanks in the
United States except the guard. Yeah, so they're protecting
themselves against the National Guard? Yes,
of course they are. This is this is it's so obvious to me now.
And Snowden is just a little peon in the in the whole game.
And everyone's afraid that this guy he's got the goods on
everybody Kaiser Alexander Heil he's got the goods. He's got all
he's got everyone's little dirty little secrets, because they all
have them. Everyone has a dirty secret. You spying from space?
You don't need to send an email just
That's good stuff. Yeah. Welcome to America.
I think I think that we have to be viewing this from a very
different angle to all this Snowden stuff is minor minor
distraction. Just minor. And Glenn Greenwald. I'm not sure
what side he's on anymore. I mean, Does he has nothing better
to do in his day than answer the phone from CNN and MSNBC and go
on the air all the time? That's all he seems to do. He this
morning with a nondescript, unimportant woman from CNN,
Glenn Greenwald is smart enough to know that no one watches CNN.
Seriously, no one watches CNN. And he's just some James Schmoll
anchor is grilling him like he's like, he's Greg Snowdens.
Manager. This is CNN breaking news, right, gay marriage.
Let's get back to our breaking news this morning. We know that
admitted NSA leaker Edward Snowden has left Hong Kong and
reports say he's on his way to Russia right now. But that's not
expected to be his final destination. Joining me now on
the phone is Glenn Greenwald. He's the journalist who
interviewed Snowden and broke the NSA story in The Guardian
newspaper. Glenn, thanks for joining us. Thanks for having
me.
Yeah. Thanks for having me. Have you noticed since the Greenwald
is just answering anyone's call?
Yeah, he's on all the time. Why is he doing nothing comes of it.
It's not like he reveals anything interesting.
No, but why is he doing this? Is this for his own ego or
something? Or what's the point? What is the point of him doing
it? He shouldn't be working on on the story.
He Well, I don't know. As you mentioned, yes. I think he's
always wanted to be a higher profile writer. And I think he's
he thinks he's making it this way. What he should have had.
See the kicker here, especially for CNN is that he had a book
out right now. He should be writing that book. He needs to
be plugging that book. He
shouldn't be taking any book throwing a new cover on it. Oh,
yeah. Here's my book. No,
no, no. Go go go do some ebooks.
Do it. Do it giblet something. Anything? No, it makes no sense
why he's doing this. It makes no journalistic sense. And if and
if we because I really never followed Greenwald you followed
him you had him in high regard. And maybe you still do follow
his tweets and maybes writings Ypsilon I always thought the guy
was uh, had a really good perspective. He's He's a
progressive he's like a progressive libertarian, which
is there's plenty of them. In fact, I was thinking about this
recently the only difference between the conservative
libertarians you know, the Ron Paul's and those types, and the
progressive libertarians are essentially there's two if they
ever can break through these two topics. There's just two topics
separating these monstrous groups of progressives and
conservatives. And the two topics are abortion and global
warming. Yeah, those two are the barriers for these two guys this
to be exactly the same. Exactly the same getting together and
changing everything but they can they these phony topics, and I
would say both of them are phony. I think the global
warming thing is a distraction bullcrap. And I think the
abortion argument is got nothing to do with politics. No, it
shouldn't be in there. So no,
it's only has to do with politics I think. Well, yeah.
Well, politics Yeah. But But greenwall I'm surprised because
I of course you know, you respect someone I'm going to
give this guy the benefit of the doubt but I'm sorry I cannot do
that anymore. It makes no sense.
Because he's a media whore. Yes, he's a
total the only reason no, that is the reason and then the whole
setup with the with the stylized video. I mean, he didn't break
it the guy didn't go to him the guy went to the to the video
chick or she went to him
actually they also went to the Washington Post way early in the
post wouldn't do anything with the story until Greenwald did
right so this whole thing is a little
green Greenwald Greenwald Ringwald. He was kind of a he
was kind of the go to guy to get this. Get some attention to the
story bring some attention to the story. And then so they
could they could blow it out. Well, did
they give him like a bonus to keep doing the same thing? Like
go do more. He's like, Oh, do I have to get
some little product out of there? You know? No, because he
launched a 30 page interview make it into an e book and sell
it for five bucks. You make some money.
And here's the thing that gets me Where was Glenn in 2008 when
he was writing for salon in 2008. He was covering this kind
of stuff when Sheila buff and I don't know if you saw this this
has been going around the YouTubes I want to make sure we
played it. Who was an actor apparently I've never heard of
was on the course I don't know these things. was on The Tonight
Show with Jay Leno. I've heard of him promoting the movie
EagleEye which I also don't remember if you've seen this
video this clip?
No, I don't think so. I remember we had an FBI consultant on the
picture telling me that they can use your ADT Security box
microphone to to get your stuff that's going on your house. or
OnStar, they could shut your car down. And he told me that one in
five phone calls that you make are recorded and logged. And I
laughed at him. And then he played back a phone
conversation. I'd had two years prior come on joining the
picture, the FBI consultant. And it was like one of those it was
one of those phone calls is like, you know, what, are you
wearing type of things? Yes. Is it was mad weird. You mean, they
had a record of you from two years prior to me joining the
pavement being associated with the movie with the movie? Well,
that seems extremely creepy. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. All right.
Well, it's well, it's Wow. That's pretty amazing. Pretty
amazing. I'm trying to think of what the last four phone calls.
Yeah, but uh,
so that was 2000. A
lot of being laughed at off. Haha, knew about this all along.
Yeah.
And so it's it to me, it's been fascinating to watch how this is
being played. There was a of course, this guy was a
contractor. And I've had a couple of contractors contact me
and say, look, the only thing that the only way the
administration really thinks is when you when you sign up as a
contractor, you're essentially signing an NDA. From a legal
standpoint, you're nailed, you're screwed. It's no oath,
getting take no oath, just signs a contract, you break the
contract when you throw your ass in jail. That's how they think.
So they had a contractor thing up on the hill, and they had the
head of recruitment and everything. And I turned it off
after this statement that in terms of securing classified
information, we just don't have an external problem. We have an
internal one. Today, there are nearly 5 million individuals, 5
million individuals inside and outside of our government, who
have been granted security clearances and access to our
nation's most sensitive data. 1.4 million hold a top secret
security clearance, given the increasing amount of classified
information produced and maintained by our government,
and the increasing number of folks with access to that
information. We have a real problem on our hands if we can't
get this right. Yeah, no shit, Sherlock. 5 million people have
clearance 5 million. And we're not one
of them in the right. Which is good. Can you believe it? In
that, in that hearing, they also discussed the overall
corruption, which they mentioned a number of times in most of
these agencies, and they discussed it openly. The Office
of Personnel Management is what they were talking about was
corrupt. The NSA was corrupt. This was all brought out in
these in this hearing. And
instead, we're on television or watching little airplanes with
red arrows of how Snowden is flying. It's like it's, it's
like a holiday travel itinerary. You kidding me?
So now, they say that they don't did, this may not be his final
destination, the Russians got him out, because he probably
couldn't have gotten out on anything that didn't have a
Russian logo on the side, because no one's gonna really
take a chance with starting World War Three.
Well, there's a couple things that are not being discussed
here in relationship to this. So first of all, this happened on
Thursday, where Russia essentially said fu dollar and
did a $270 billion deal with China, which will be paid in
rubles or shekels or, or euros or whatever, but it won't be
dollars, then the President comes back with a continuation
of the National Emergency on Russian fissile material. This
is like you can't ignore these things. It's like Oh, yeah. Oh,
we'll take that. I'm gonna I'm gonna continue my my national
emergency. Because you got nukes. It's back and forth. It's
back and forth. Oh, yeah. Well, we'll take your Snowden guy.
Get your Snowden guy right, here
he is. What are you gonna do now? You can't ignore that
stuff.
So the right now there's this little funny battle. So this
notion, of course, is just a pawn in the greater scheme of
things, but they're gonna have to get rid of him. So they're
going to either on an Aeroflot plane.
Well, I don't know how they're gonna get rid of him. You think
he's
gonna push them out the door, which has always been my theory.
Guess who's going to represent him?
Let's fly over Greenland. Now what was it? Who's gonna? Who's
gonna represent Him?
The name you sent me two weeks ago before Snowden even came
out? You sent me an email. And you said, this is a name we have
to watch. And I'm like, Who the hell is this? And I put it into
my system. Balto zargar zone? Yeah, he's gonna represent Him.
So yet no, this is already out.
unless somebody's watching this guy. Because I lost track of him
already. Weeks later to
both is our this guy is a gangster. He's a real gangster.
And he's a CIA operative. So I have The feeling that he is
going to be taken to someplace where they can make him pop up
whenever they need him to. Very similar. I don't think he's
gonna go kill Assange, although it is still a possibility. But
again, this goes on is there's this guy is he's a made man.
He's a total gangster. He's not in jail. So he's being
protected. I would say CIA. NSA doesn't really have that. That's
not really the racket they're in. They just like to send
little notes. Now this in the CSS coins, the coins, I'm gonna
get that coin so it's a beautiful coin.
See if it pops open.
It has a whole bunch of it has their whole the whole all that
little motto? They don't have a motto. It's like Shut up or I'll
shoot you. national security. Well, they're part of NSA.
They're the enforcement arm.
It's got the CSS what Central Security Service the CSS CSS,
which also makes Cascading Style Sheets. Interestingly anonymous,
and it has a weight I can't quite read it. It's to the
letters are too small.
In old
I can't Yeah, no kidding. I can't read what's on that it
says that says United States
are they sell for that coin you holding? sells for 8099 on eBay.
So for some reason he's got they've got the Coast Guard.
SR one that's got a five star on the
bat. The five star Yeah, no, I think that's
the blood or the Crips one of the two. One of them has five
stars. Five Points. It's the five tattoo and five point star
that guy's
trouble. But this is a five pointed star. It has the key the
crypto key and the torch.
You get like a marine thing and no Coast Guard.
Coast Guard and I've got a horse a night with a gamma horse with
a night top left. Oh right right. Yeah, top left the night
with little with a little North Star. This is like just the
one you keep on you. Yeah, no kidding. Your pockets? Your
pockets.
Let me see your wallet. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to drop
that. How awesome is this? Huh? Maybe we should put in some
water Yes, please. And W t mint Northwest territorial mint. Oh,
well.
They might be good too.
I mean, you think that's screwy? So Miss Mickey her green card
shows up yesterday. This thing now? I wouldn't let her publish
a picture of it because it's got numbers now kind of like this
does not do that. Yeah, well I said if you want to do that you
have to blackout up on the back it has so first of all it says
to protect your your to protect your card from being used
remotely. Please always carry it in in the supplied envelope.
Right they got a Faraday cage. Surrounded Yeah, cuz people will
activate it. Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's a problem.
And but the back of it is beautiful because it has this
magnetic strip and it has in the magnetic strip. Her picture is
in the magnetic strip. And down below all of the President's
heads. Really miniscule, like smaller than pinheads. It's it's
maniacal is what it is. It's really meant it's like wow.
Pile.
Well, here's the challenge coin I want. They go on. It's still
Osama bin Laden about about Pakistan SEAL Team Six challenge
coin. Wow. Does it come with Bruce St. Six?
Does it come with a one way helicopter ride?
No, but it's got a weird you should actually look at this
going and try to tell me yep, very funny. You should tell me
whether what is the meaning of the background being two thirds
green around there's a ring around in the ring around the
thing is got a background as two thirds green and 1/3. White?
I don't even want to talk about that coin. That's not a good
coin to have.
Probably not really. It's not got a GPS device in it.
That's not it's not a good thing. So. So this debate
continues. And and I think that the way I'm viewing it just what
I'm doing is I'm only looking at, okay. Most people in the
media are controlled by the CIA. This all came out with the
church commission in the 70s. This is nothing new. We've
discussed this many, many times. And the NSA there to be dealt
with now the CIA, they run a lot of the show as well. But we've
now put Brennan in place and we've taken some lawyer chick
and we've put her in number two. So Obama feels kind of safe.
He's taking the drones away, please. You know, we don't want
anyone to know. We can't have anyone having any drones in This
fight this is not a good idea because he thinks he can control
the military so he's and I'm on the President's side on all this
by the way. I think the guy is running scared and he's just
pooping his pants and he's doing whatever he can and he wants to
get he wants to protect Snowden we need to get Snowden in.
Because we you know, we need to have him leak more we need to
control the guy more information about the NSA, please because
the NSA there, they've got their own fortress with anti tank
stuff
is hilarious. Yeah, from what from my Telly have the area
mind? Yeah,
who knows what's going on? So I'm just going to think that
everything is pretty much a CIA. CIA operative. And so now we
have on Sky News. I know you and I both saw this, Julian Assange.
And Julian Assange is in the Ecuadorian Embassy. We presume
he could be in on the set of another world for all I know.
And he's there with John Perry Barlow, sitting on the couch
hanging out. Are you kidding me?
And Barlow and notes saying, Hey, sit up straight. Sit up
straight Barlow. You're not that old
and Barlow. It's so obvious that he's he's an operative for the
CIA. That's right. I said it. You know, that don't trust his
EFF. I don't. Look, I didn't trust them from the day. They. I
reached out to them. They're like, Oh, no, we're not
interested. And Barlow was lying about that. Now he tweeted me.
I'm so sorry. That's the way you remember how it went? We didn't
have the resources to bullshit. You even look at the case. Liar.
CIA liar. Yeah. Well, I mean, look, here's the problem. You
know, I, personally, I actually do trust to some large extent,
the people who are running the NSA. Yeah. Okay. What a tell
there, huh? Yeah, yeah. And I'm sure you do, John, some
many of whom I know. Uh huh. And I and I trust the the underlying
faith of the of the Obama administration to
flow, I trust the underlying faith of the Obama industry is
what he wanted to say. But then he said, administration, what is
the underlying faith? What does that mean,
I think is what you're kind of suggesting, which is that Obama
is a good guy underneath it all. And by the way, I'm not buying
any of this at this point, with Obama being the good guy think
he got caught out? Yeah, he's done. He's done.
No, I'm not saying he's a good guy. I said, I feel for him.
He's running scared. He's not running anything. It's not even
the same guy from four years ago. He says the other guy tag
teamed, just like the Mexican wrestlers.
So yeah, what did was why would he complement the NSA? Guide?
Because we I think we can say that there's a there's a turf
war. Yes. Between God knows what groups but we can assume that
the people involved in one way or another would be the FBI, the
CIA, the DIA, for sure. The NSA, the White House and and God
knows who else there may be other players. But there's
something running amok and I do believe that the Keith I'm
sorry, Kaiser is Xander Kaiser is which is the better name for
him. Yeah. With his uniform on I didn't realize he's still active
member of the military. Right? You see this? Yeah, who has?
Does this guy get any sleep John, he run, he held this
system. He
has ships and airplanes and troops. He has actual, like a
whole panzer division or whatever. I didn't know that. I
didn't the guy can order some chips around.
It's pretty amazing. Power. Yeah, that's totally out of
control. Now, there was a but there was a couple of Well,
anyway, I have to go get my printout of my clips because I
go go get that. And I'll just play this 40 seconds of John
Perry, collaborator Barlow,
and I and I trust the the underlying faith of the of the
Obama and administration team that I think my colleague does,
but
but colleague point is that they're they colleague,
colleague, Assange is his colleague. Well, I mean, does he
understand how much he's giving away this Barlow? He doesn't do
a lot of media. I've always wondered about this guy, because
as far as I know, the only the only thing we know him from us,
he wrote like a beside on a Grateful Dead record. And that
was like, oh, it's John Perry. Bardo. He wrote for the Grateful
Dead. Right? Yeah. And what else has he done? How does he make
his money?
He's always hanging around. I O is great guy to hang out with by
the way. He is a wreck on tour. Rock on tour. A wreck on tour.
What is a wreck on tour is no rock on tour. He's a wreck and
tour rockin tour. us, and He is a poet, which I think is right.
But it's not that just being opposed to somebody that's
that's to be to be. Well, you said it yourself that these
poets are dangerous. Hello. Yeah. And he is one and is the
funniest thing but what I like hanging out because you will
come up with these turns of phrases or some peculiar way of
thinking about something. It's like kind of like what we do on
the show only is poetic. And so it's like, so
he gets a deal that he gets laid with it is what you're saying.
Oh,
yeah, hold on a second. Let's
just let's look at the CIA controlled book of knowledge.
Hold on a second. That should help. Alright, let's see.
American poet and essayist, retired Wyoming cattle rancher,
and cyber libertarian political activist, who's been associated
with both Democratic and Republican parties, also a
former lyricist for the Grateful Dead and founding member of the
Electronic Frontier Foundation. He's been a fellow at Harvard
University's Berkman Center for Internet and Society have been
identified by Time Magazine as one of the School of rocks 10
super smart musicians. Oh, I threw up in my mouth. Excuse me.
Really? So how does he make money on the EFF thing? Must be?
Yeah, cattle ranch. No, he's
a retired cattle rancher.
Yeah, he retired on all the wealth that he made from cattle.
Okay. All right. I'm sorry. I don't know where he makes his
money. And he does have I do remember I was at some function.
I think it was an eff function in San Francisco. And Barlow
went off on John Poindexter who I think was working for the evil
he was a former obviously, you know, he's the head of the
National Security Council under Reagan. And he had he has a lot
of connections in the in this in the industry, but I don't know
why I couldn't quite fathom what the point was. And so I'm
wondering because you like to make the claim that he's like a
CIA handler and for Assange. Yeah. Just case. Yeah. Call. Do
we know that? I mean, why Why can't he be an NSA guy? No, no,
no, no, my Kenny be a DIA guy. Which makes more sense to
because he's,
well, that's possible. But he's sitting with Assange. He's with
Assange. His colleague, Assange. And he's he's obviously there.
What I mean, he's, he's drinking tea. Are they like strategizing
about how to break him out? I mean, come on.
Pop. Bartel lives over here across the bay. When he gets
back. I'm gonna go have lunch with him and find what the what
to do and
kick him in the nuts from me. To Hey, this is from Adam.
I have two friends that that seem to not that he seemed to
hate Barlow, too. Well, you don't hate him. You just think
you know, I
just think I just think he's there. That's all Yeah, he lies
to me. He's lied. So done.
That's all the other one is. Greg, Zachary Pascal used to
write for the Wall Street Journal. He has some real issues
with Barlow, and if the two of them were I've seen this, the
two of them in the room together it gets one inch away from
becoming a fistfight.
But more importantly, you just call me one of your friends and
that's appreciated. That's the first you might want to retract.
Get a deal about
no let's not No, no, no, let's not get a jingle about that.
That'd be another thing. Let's go with middle of the night. All
right. Can I can I play some later place him. So here's a
McLaughlin group again. And the McLaughlin group is just part of
the Staci saucy system, meant to make us feel good about all
this. It's all good. No matter who's doing the spine, rehearsed
and rehearsed and scripted. This is Mortimer what's his name
again? Morgan Freeman. Hey, the guy who's on Berg Mortimers
Zuckerberg Zuckerberg and the old grouch they're, they're
Mortimer Buchanan, no, not Pat Buchanan. Marc Morial grouch.
Oh, the other guy's a grouch, too.
Yeah, more, more,
more exactly. Whatever free
who were expelled after 20 years or so having served in that
position that Snowden held. And they were innocent, and they are
innocent. And the agreement says are for that for Americans to
read about. So we ought to hold off on judging snow. Do you
agree with us? No,
I do not. I do think what Snowden did is definitely
detrimental to the security of this this American country. And
by that I mean if if The terrorist attacks were in one
form or another, deterred or exposed. Just think of what this
country would be like, if you had one major terrorist attack
like you had in Boston every month in his country, he would
change the whole tenor of life in this country. So it is
absolutely critical for the government to put in enough
security measures to block these. And that's what we're
going to be facing. And it's going to be a very, very
challenging time. But we must find a way to make sure that
terrorist attacks do not become you know, the regular fare of
what this country is going to have to deal with. Oh, yes.
Yeah.
What evidence does he have that this is becoming the regular
fare of anything? Well, he
has the 50 the 50 ways to block your terrorist. That's what he's
basing it on. He said it right there. 50. You know, there was
50. So in the course of a year that we want every single week,
this is how we extrapolate. What is that? What is the capital of
Ecuador?
Is it a Keto keto keto does with a cue?
Quick Quisha. No, yeah. Quit. No, no. What is it? Itoje.
Quito? Quito, Quito? Yes, keto, keto, paleo,
what I said, all right.
Yes, John. I'm here at the Quito International Airport where a
Snowden should be arriving any minute now.
Okay, is he coming with his gang of thugs kill Assange?
No, he's coming with a WikiLeaks representative. As you know,
WikiLeaks is now a corporation, they have an entire PR arm and
then this fantastic shame meetings with al Qaeda. Yes,
they do. In fact, they seem to share office space, and like to
hang out together at the Starbucks. So we're just
awaiting his arrival here, John, you should can see the arrows on
the screen, as his flight will be here shortly. I'll let you
know if we are learning anymore.
Thank you, Adam.
He's officially requested asylum in Ecuador.
What did I predict? Yeah, no. Wow, gee, we got I just want to
mention, because in the Red Book was recorded, as an aside, if
you remember, from some commentator, who seemed a little
sketchy, who just dropped the two names Ecuador and Iceland,
and Iceland just had a meeting about this, by the way, I don't
know what came of it. But I think they, but I think Ecuador
has always been the target because that's where Assange is
going to end up. Yeah. Well, they have to negotiate. And
Assange and this guy are gonna get together and then
but he's still in.
Heart attack. Yeah, I sent you that note saying no, there's no
way that guy's a loser. That guy's plant was gonna send me a
note. You already got the note? You're ready to dead by three
shows ago?
Oh, no. He didn't say he was a loser. He just said that. He
hadn't done any special training.
He doesn't know that for a fact. Okay, I know the guy. He's just
going on based on news report. Okay. Okay. The guy could be
that he could be, you know, this stealth assassin. You know,
we don't know who anyway. So let's just just back it up for a
second, I'll be done with this topic, because I don't know what
else we can say. All I know is is that WikiLeaks inserted
itself into the process after the fact. Okay, so this wasn't a
WikiLeaks project. It wasn't leaked on WikiLeaks, it went
through the same channels the same same way, because
WikiLeaks, you know, there wasn't all this. Bradley Manning
didn't send stuff to WikiLeaks. It was published on the web. No,
it was published in the New York Times, in built and in The
Guardian, before anything else. And then it was all redacted.
And they talked to the State Department. So we deduced and
concluded that it was clearly some form of psychological
operation, ie CIA. This guy comes out of the woodwork
through a dubious channel, at best, a paid for channel. And in
the WikiLeaks like, oh, yeah, we're tweeting about him. Yeah,
we got a representative with him. Like what? Since when
WikiLeaks now has wraps coaches like media coaches, what is
this? I didn't just wake up yesterday and
buy me a coach. Yeah,
I mean, come on. What is weekend? What is wiki pedia now
I mean, the Wiki Leaks What is it now? Is it Assange? Is it a
whole organization who's running it? Where's the office who takes
care of this? Who's the liaison? Or just some to some guy puts on
the WikiLeaks t shirt and says, Hey, I'm here. I'm here to take
you. I mean, how does this work? Come on. There's a lot more
going on. And for people that just accept this at face value
and say it WikiLeaks is helping them out. Yeah. No, no, no.
Back when you think Barlow is doing there Ah. I think I just
found it peculiar. You're a news guy. I'm and you know, we both
worked in and around the this business news and you're going
to do an interview with the guy. You're on Skype. This is Sky
News where this showed up. Yeah. And so Sky News is going to do
an interview with Assange. So they started off with a two
shot. Now what when is this happened so far with any
interview with Assange? No, usually it's a piece of crap
interview, you know, sometimes on Skype, and sometimes, you
know, with the camera that obviously it's set up shop in
the Ecuadorian Embassy because that was a professional setup.
It was well lit. That it was well, my it was
a horrible shot. You were looking right in their, in their
crotch. It was stupid, his shot ever. I'm
talking about the lighting and the mic, and then they should
give us a two shot that you're bitching about? Well, I'll tell
you what I'm bitching about what's the point of a two shot
with some guy that's got nothing to do with this. Sitting there?
I believe it was to send a message. Yes. And the message. I
don't know what my take away is. Hello, we're from the CIA. We're
still supporting Assange. We're still supporting WikiLeaks, and
we're supporting Snowden. So it could only be a message. I don't
see any other reasons. I
agree. I don't know if that what you use surmise is the exact
message. I mean, it could also mean either that or this guy,
lover will shoot him in a minute. It could be a million
different messages that your message I think is the
idealistic one. It's a good message if it was true. But I'm
not convinced that you know, this is CIA. I don't know there.
But I agree. 100% There's no reason to do that shot. No,
unless it's a message unless it's a message. It's the same
thing with Clooney. And that guy is always hanging around him the
handler, because it's just to let everyone know that Clooney
has not gone off the rails or guys to make sure that clean
doesn't do anything dumb, Pendergrast actor after all,
Pendergrass Pendergrast. That guy, that guy, right. So
I think that the what the message is clear to everyone who
needs to know it, you know, this is our guy,
right? It's like the number 33. Yeah, yeah. You know, what it
means to know when it shows up what it means to you at that
moment? We don't know,
again, again, we're not in the loop.
We're just guessing that's what we do. We're gonna We're
guessing in an intelligent way that I think the public needs to
at least have some second thoughts about a lot of this
stuff. And I think that, you know, these kinds of things,
they stand out like sore thumbs. You do not do an interview with
Julian Assange about Snowden with a third party sitting
there. You just don't
know. No, no, it's it made no sense other than messaging. And
Barlow is a great guy. He's very recognizable. And I think in the
intelligence community, he says, I have lots of people. I know
what the NSA Well, isn't that what better reason to sit next
to Assange? And then say, I know people in the NSA, and yeah,
Obama's Okay, the underlying principle. So who's he working
for? Well, I'd say, CIA or maybe dia, but CIA makes a lot more
sense. From the wiki from the WikiLeaks perspective,
maybe? Yeah. Because your thesis is that the whole thing is a CIA
operation? Well, it's not meant some level. I mean, I don't know
if the people working there know that. Most people that work for
a CIA operation don't find out until it's like, you know, late
years later to
go what? They read the book, the book,
they found there were stooges. I could have got paid a lot more
money if I know what was going on. Yeah. Keep bastards. All
right, well, so I went, I was spending my time on a very
interesting and entertaining hearing. Oh, actually, as a
caucus, I'll tell you why when I see one of these things on C
span, I really pay attention because this is the this is the
real deal. This is the thing you really want to watch in its
entirety. And this was a group was called the the congressional
internet caucus advisory committee. They were what the
what? The Congressional internet caucus Advisory Committee, these
things, these are committees that that talk in private
generally, to all the top aides of the congressmen and senators.
Okay, and so you look at the audience, it's all kids. Fart,
right? There's an old guy, I guess the best work I could get
into, but it's mostly young women who are ambitious, and a
lot of guys and policy walks. The place is filled to the gills
these days, when you get to see one of these, one of these
advisory committees meet over a current event topic. These
things are the people hanging off the rafters, and this was on
NSA data collection. And they had a number of people there.
They had a guy from the CATO they had ACLU woman was a
nervous wreck. They had that The old privacy expert from the DHS
who's now a privacy attorney who led the thing, Mary Ellen
Callahan, and she was very, very interesting. And they discussed
all the all the crap that was going on. And I want to play
just to give you a sense of this, and I can play a couple of
different clips, but the clip that got my real attention is
the actual causes clip, which I have here that discuss besides
of besides the obvious FBI lie, they disgusting remember that
they're all the stock market, they're gonna blow up the stock
exchange. Yeah,
this was the guy that they did again entice, and they had the
they had,
it was even more interesting than that this guy, then this
guy speaking is Julian Sanchez from Cato, who has his very east
coast, kind of preppy, weird accent. That was a little off
putting, but he's a classic Washington, DC Style Talker. And
he's from Cato, which is a conservative think tank that
doesn't really support any of this stuff, even though the
conservatives in the Republican Party and all the talk show guys
do. But Dave Cato doesn't seem to. He explains all these cases
that were brought out, including one that we never discussed,
essentially, the 50 cases that Kaiser Alexander brought up.
Yeah, he's he says they're all bullshit. They're all bullshit.
And then when you start looking at exactly what that means, you
said well, and how many of those was to 15 actually used,
specifically, this metadata program? And it says, well, the
majority, we believe so case six or seven, and then what are
those cases? Well, the cases they describe one involved
finding someone who had been donating money to Shabaab, the
Ethiopian terror group and of course, you know, absolutely
find and and prosecute those people. But that's not exactly a
terror plot foiled. And it's not clear in that case, why the same
thing could not have been achieved using traditional tools
like subpoenas and targeted pen registers and records orders.
Najibullah Zazi, who appears to have been identified through a
link to a known terrorist email address already being monitored,
whatever use was made up to 15. Later again, not clear why a
more targeted use of that would not have been possible. There
was this other case involving a suppose it plot to bomb the York
Stock Exchange. Was it a serious plot Deputy Director, Sean Joyce
for the FBI says, well, the jury thought it was serious because
they were all convicted. As it turns out, there was no jury
trial, they were not convicted of plotting terrorism. These
were people who were convicted again, of material support for
terrorist organization meeting again, assistance money. And the
New York Stock Exchange plot part of it appears to have
involved the fact that the US person involved in this case,
sort of scoped out several tourist targets didn't provide
very useful information that appears to have been abandoned.
The US attorney who worked that case said there was no specific
plot. So I think we should treat with some skepticism as these
are the the showpiece cases, they're bringing up to justify
the bulk collection of all Americans phone and possibly
internet records. It's not clear that that is a justification
that passes that cost benefit test.
This is a very important clip you just shared with us John and
because with a $200 million a year budget, the world's news
organization CNN was not able to put together what Kaiser
Alexander said and the facts as they are presented here to say
to present to the world that maybe there's some bull crap
going on here
Yeah, I know when I heard that clip I said why I've never heard
this anywhere. I'm listening to it in this caucus. But it's or
this committee and it's like, how hard is it to do just take
that down word for word for it that may turn into a column just
by quoting that guy Oh,
no, no, no, no, no, no, you will not you are not going to write
any column like that. First of all, I will you can put it in
the book right now. You write that column it will get they
will not get published. guarantee it oh yeah, guarantee
it guarantee they will not get published. It'll be something
like Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, you know the iPhone five s is coming out
we had to make we didn't have room for your column this week.
I noticed the internet but we didn't really have space for
sorry. Yeah, now I can guarantee it and I don't want you doing
that because that puts our whole operation in jeopardy. You can't
put that on a legit new site.
Bring it up to a legit market watch you can do that. Right for
market watching where they already got rid of me. Oh,
really?
Thanks to the show. No doubt. Oh, no, man. Oh, now
we have another clip. Let's go into Callahan.
Good clip, by the way, good clip Great Clips. Good clip. Yeah.
No, no, it could be I could give you that posthumously I
haven't seen when it happened. I just wanted
to say that all of these clips are available in the show notes.
There'll be five to four.na show notes.com You go to clips and
stuff. And there you can find JCD. And in his little folder
there, you'll have all of his clips. And so when you are, you
can even load it on your phone. And then when someone says, and
then we have like 50 strict Anti Terrorist tracks every single
week, it could be like dead from like, people like blown up the
stock exchange. Crash our entire economy has been on when he
wanted the ATMs which are freaking out, man, we can do
this. Hey, we ran this trade a little bit of our security for
liberty or whatever. I don't care if we can't do this
is the opening clip for the show? Mark it down mark the
time?
One hour, one hour on a second.
How did we get to an hour? Like can
we stop your clips and thanks for producers so we can just or
should you want to finish?
We better thanks. Yeah, this is
and in fact, this is how you do it. You do the great opening
tease everyone's all hot and horny for the show. Boom,
bringing the people who pay for the show.
Yeah, in fact that I do have the spreadsheet loaded we do have a
number of executive producers today I want to thank them all
we have where's the one at the top and
by the way, hello what this is great value for value we just
gave you something that not a single news organization has
done and we've put it together for you right here you can take
this information say it's bullshit. It's simply not true.
The Kaiser were no close
yeah, no, that's the thing about the those 50 owe the 50 the big
50 You know, as such, it just was you know, I'm really glad
that this guy this Cato guy gave us a real outline in fact one of
them the one the first one about the guy just sending some money
overseas and that's a big terrorist plot. Yeah, like I
did remember like I did send some money to my daughter got
rejected because of Oh terrorist you use foreign language.
Right? Yeah, exactly. That's very funny, by the way. Are we
have some the number of executive producers to think we
maybe had a call out for some extra ones. They all get credit
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Good. Whoa, I wanted to thank did you get an award?
Yeah, I got the best podcaster in the known universe.
Hold on a second. How can that be like as you get the same
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You said that these are the Bollman awards, I believe. It's
I want to say, downstairs, I have to get it.
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Yeah. Well, that's what she did. She put it on my bookcase. I'm
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sure. Do you want to continue here with your little,
let's go, we're gonna go back to the caucus. And again, this is
the stuff that is being told to the walks that work for the
various representatives of the senators will never show up to
these things. But they're there and they don't know anything
anyway, they're idiots. So but their aides if they have sharp
aids that go to these events. And this is the kind of thing
that when I see one of these I am glued to it because I know
I'm going to get stuff that's going to show up and policy
statements is going to show up in the congressional hearings is
going to show up. But the one that was I thought this Callahan
woman, ex DHS woman, she made the commentary on on damages to
the American image. And it I thought was quite quite good to
our image.
Interesting. And I'm going to use a little discretion and just
talk. I have three points that I want to highlight one having
gone to 20 EU member states to talk about government
information sharing and my role is the US Department of Homeland
Security's Chief Privacy Officer where Okay,
can I just say something for just an observation? She's
really full of herself.
She's a very happy woman to her 1009 I'm so incredibly.
I said, Oh, don't worry, business record rules are only
used 21 times in 2009 and only use 96 times in 2010. I'm going
to tell you the relationships with the European Union and with
the European Commission are likely irreparably damaged. I
used to go and say no, no, believe me, no, don't worry,
it's gonna be fine. And they say we don't believe you. You lied
to us about Guantanamo, you lied to us about rendition. So now
they've got a third one in there. So I think that our
relations with the European Commission, particularly the non
national security portion of it is going to be a problem. And
candidly, our relationship with European citizens is going to be
a problem. I also think that the concept of trust in government
and the concept of transparency has been harmed, and that the
particularly the nine name companies, but at the same time,
the other elements where the other companies are operating
the space will have a cloud over their their heads of saying,
Well, are you participating in this? How much are you giving?
What is the access? It seems to be awfully clear. So I think the
point on transparency that has been a theme among my panelists,
is going to have to be a be an element that we've got to
develop because to affect the internet economy, you know,
something in privacy, I call it the ick factor. You can't define
it, but people go check that see, that seems icky to me. And
I fear that the ick factor may color both the private sector
economy as well as the government use of this data.
Oh, four minutes, I thought that there was going to be a real
problem. Like people didn't want to watch Superman Man of Steel
or the Kardashians. Oh, we got
cynicism is funny, because there was one guy everybody kind of
agreed with her. But there's one guy at the end. He says, Well,
I'm gonna play the devil's advocate. And I'll just
summarize his answer. Listen to another one of these. These
clips are long. He says, you know, it's a lot of lip service.
Because these governments and you're in the EU, they love our
data. We're sharing with them. We're trading data and the
public. They're idiots. They're just a bunch of slaves. They
don't care.
Wait, does it do you have this clip form? No.
I'm just summarizing what his real story. He didn't say
slaves. I'm just saying the way Oh, and what damage is being
done to Google? People are still using it. Nobody cares. No
exaggerated. It is.
That's what I thought for a second. i Oh, my God, people
won't be they're going to stop using Google. They're going to
stop watching. You know, we were at we were at Halcyon yesterday.
And it was it was very funny. Some friends of ours, who we
haven't seen in a while, we only we don't know that super well,
but we're, you know, we're, we're getting to know him quite
well. I like him a lot. He's a lobbyist here in Austin. And but
he's, he's a funny one. You know, he's like He actually He's
perfect for no agenda, because he knows he's in a totally evil
business and he doesn't really feel good about his wife, his
wife who is sick. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Now his wife. She's, she's
a fascinating woman. She looks like Cleopatra Jones. She's, you
know, she's got the fro. She's black. She's got the fro. I
mean, he just wants Ah, he's expected to pull a gun on you at
any minute. But I don't know what happened. But also and he's
like, can you believe they named that child cadence? Like, what
are you talking about? And it took me awhile it dawned on me
she was talking about the I guess the thing was that they
had to come up with a que name for Kanye and Kim's kid. Yeah.
Did you know this? They can do nothing, you know that they call
the cadence? Yeah. Wow.
I think it was I mean, I just I couldn't not avoid finding out
because the way the way I'm doing searches I will get
ramping up is like the top distraction of the week. And
Derek's Wow.
We went to see movie.
Star Trek or night Sarge, I mean, the new Superman.
No, no. And now there's a documentary out. And it is a pro
nuclear documentary.
Oh, yeah. This movie.
Do you know what the title of it is?
It's called by nukes today? Correct.
It's Pandora's Promise. Yeah. And it was playing in one
theater here in Austin. So in about 20 minutes or alternative
distribution system where the about five theaters in the world
get to play the movie when it shows up on Link TV at two in
the morning and then that's the end of
it. Well, so this documentary was playing at a Cineplex and we
go there yesterday only two people in the room well,
we went there and the place was packed. No hacked I tell you
yes. Because The Bling Ring was playing next door that's the
Paris Hilton movie
poster. All these gorgeous grounds there were to get a free
showing to this. No,
no, no, I'm what I'm saying is the Cineplex was packed.
Oh, just send it back. Okay, you're confusing me.
You're being such a shit about the movie won't even get my
review. I'm gonna trick you. Yes, we were the only two people
in the theater. This has never happened to me. We were the only
two people
where the movie was playing that was packed. The Bling
Ring, you know, the Paris Hilton movie. And so so we're in this
now and Mickey, oh god, I love this woman to death. Because if
we had not wanted to see this, we would have walked out after
20 minutes. We would have walked out after the ads. I can't
believe they wasted actual electricity on showing ads to
us. Because we were the only two people. I mean, we were making
comment hooting and hollering because there wasn't there was
no one in the theater. And still every 15 minutes some dude would
come by to make sure we were obey. No Pandora's Promise,
which was financed by a couple of Silicon Valley people Richard
Branson's in there. The budget was about 1,000,005 Let me tell
you not only should they have given that money to us because
we make we have done better for the nuclear movement pro nuclear
movement on this show than this movie ever. Will. They need to
take that movie burn every single print burn every poster?
pretend it never happened ever. It is it is the worst piece of
crap. I could not believe it nuclear energy is over if they
don't realize how wrong this movie was, and it's filled with
great facts it really is with nothing that you haven't heard
on this show previously, but it is and I'm convinced that there
was someone in there who was actually evil and putting stuff
into make you still kind of second guess. It was like a
bunch of academics sat down like really Oh
Jesse was strict by the way. What that's a good trick.
Well, but if they gave us another million to re edit it
get Woody Harrelson didn't know voiceover to get a Woody
Harrelson to do a voiceover their main their main character
was Stuart Brand. Okay, Stuart
Brand, the whole earth guy. Yes.
So the idea was the idea the premise was first of all
PANDORA'S PROMISE is like you're expecting I got the shits gonna
fly off the screen. I'm gonna want to go out and put a
backyard nook in this is going to be great. The premises?
Here's these environmentalists who are extremely anti nuke all
their life and they They are taken on a journey, which we
never see their journey. And they're never positioned because
it says Stuart Brand, editor, founder of Whole Earth Catalog,
like anyone under 50 knows what that means. It's a stupid. And
then there's a couple other guys, so there's no positioning
of who they are. And, and, and there's no real journey that it
got so bad, where instead of and by the way, it's distributed by
CNN films, which is why it sucks so bad why it sucks complete
balls, because instead of showing what's actually going
on, which is the public are being indoctrinated and tricked
into thinking that nuclear is like bombs, and you're going to
die by the media, because the media is doing it. And they're
doing it mainly for whorish reasons because it's sexy to you
know, who are the fish are gonna be irradiated? Oh, we're all
gonna die. And they have all the counterpoints neatly lined up in
the movie. Instead of doing that they actually at some point
said, Well, it's very coincidental that the same
language that is used against nuclear energy is what the
global warming skeptics use. Oh, like,
oh, you kid at that end?
But are you kidding me? It's like, you just you just turn to
me? Of course it is. You just turned me into a hater. Now, let
me just tell you a couple things that were great in the movie.
Some things that, that I think they did very well. So they
spent the money on traveling, they went to Chernobyl. And they
took a Geiger counter, which at this point, the movie is so
poorly made, you're thinking the Geiger counters, fake, you know,
they're on the airplane, they're showing background radiation,
the airplane is, you know, 20 times higher than on the ground
and Chernobyl. They're giving you the real facts. They're
showing you the documents from the World Health Organization
and from unscarred and all them because most people think a
million people died from Chernobyl, and where it was
really like 20. And, you know, then they were in, you know, and
maybe 500 people died earlier, but it was like a weapons grade
thing, you know, it wasn't protected. It's all these things
that are completely unknown. No one dialed died from Three Mile
Island, then they show Fukushima, where, you know,
there's no radiation, you know, and, and I'm not even gonna
fight this because they had such an opportunity to do this,
right. And they show France where the French are just
laughing at us because 80% of all their energy is from
nuclear. So they get all these beautiful things they show the
the actual amount of all the nuclear waste in the United
States, all of it if you put it all together and I believe the
fact it would fit on one football field, and the amount
of nuclear energy that is hot on nuclear waste that is hot, would
fit on 1/10 of one yard line of all ever used ever produced and
then and they show you know how a breeder reactor reuses fuel
and then the best thing and this this is where it freaked me out
was like that someone sabotage this. So they've got this Do you
remember the IFR? Reactor this was I think 94 Maybe or yeah
must have been night kitbag. They
remember I think we even talked about it. No, no, no. 94 I
mean, we certainly weren't talking about a man. No,
no, I think we talked about, you know, this technology. So they
had the
IFR reactor and Kerry was the guy the only the only showed him
I like a C span clip of him kibosh ng the IFR reactor. And
what they did is they showed these tests where they cut all
the power, every power, you know, they they everything was
caught off, you know, no backup generators, nothing and and this
thing shuts itself down. And then they you know, they they
pull the plug on like the water or whatever thing shuts itself
down completely. It shuts itself down. That's the technology of
the IFR reactor. And a meltdown is impossible. I mean, we've
talked we have talked about this on the show. But then the guy
who did it, who is now now 60s 70 years old, and he's
saying yeah, no, no, we we showed it. We had the press
right there and the thing shut down. We did this this thing
shut down. And then the interviewer asked him, so this
thing could never melt down. And the way the guy answered, he was
like, No. I was like, oh my god, couldn't you ask the fucking
question again? And put it in put it I mean, Mickey and I
looked at each other and like that wasn't very convincing. It
was like the money shot of the movie. And then they leave that
in there. Now. This was sabotaged. It's a piece of crap.
And they should never spend to send that money to us. Please.
We could do a million a half annual budget. That'd be really
nice. And Wilson will spread the facts about nuclear energy. This
was so sad. And we would have walked out if if it hadn't been
didn't have to watch it for the show. No. So you sacrifice
yourself You could have gone next door to watch the Paris
Hilton movie.
Yeah. But it also it was I was so sad. I was so incredibly sad
that here's this opportunity. They're in a real movie theater.
I mean, you can't even put if you put this online, you know
how you know how people are like, Oh my God, you got to see
this video, no one will even send it to you. It's so crap.
I mean, you ever hear from it again? Well in. So they made a
movie with a million dollar budget, and they're not going to
make money on it. That's great.
And then it's not about making money. They're not going to
convince anybody.
There was the whole thing. It seems like a fiasco is a total
fiasco. And they talked about backyard nukes the possibility
that you can make a little bitty thing very out just that could
power your
whole house and just just touched on it lightly. 100
years, John, I'm telling you, we could take the raw material, get
Woody Harrelson do the voiceover. And we could turn it
into a blockbuster. But you'd have to put in all this stuff to
show how the media is lying. And of course, the Will It will not
get distributed in theaters, it will not get any promote. Not
that it's getting any promotion now. It would be great. But the
nuclear industry, there's this there's money in this industry,
right? I mean, there's hundreds if not billion 100 Millions,
billions of dollars being spent on nuclear and nuclear industry.
Are you guys insane? Are you out of your fucking minds? This
you've got the definition of renewable energy. By the way,
love the little tidbit in there that all of these wind farms and
solar farms, they all have gas gas pipes running up to them
because they all have the basically gas fired
installations in disguise. I thought that was pretty cool.
I don't know anything about this yet.
Neither did I. So you have a wind farm. But of course, when
the wind is not blowing, you still want to produce some
energy. And then they open up the gas pipe and then the
turbines are rolling. And basically, it just selling gas.
I didn't know that either. It's it that was a revelation to me.
That if you look at all the wind farms and solar farms, almost
all of them have a gas fired plant right there on the
premises to make up for you know, when when the sun's not
shining, or the winds not blowing. So there was tons of
good information, but it was completely sabotage and I can't
believe and they never really made the point that Hello. We
live in a petrochemical world. The oil and coal industries are
so huge, they own everything. They own the media, they own all
of the politicians. They couldn't even bring themselves
to say it, let alone insinuated. No, it was the global warming
the global climate change deniers. Stupid, stupid, stupid
idiots, stupid. Now, the creative work Consulting Group
is of course available to at any time. Should you want to know
how to do
this listed. Yeah,
we're in the book.
Send us an email. We're ready to go real time. Yeah.
So that is a very disappointing, very, very, very, very
disappointing, because, you know, I'm pro nuke.
I'm pro backyard nuke. Yeah,
well, we're never gonna get there at this rate. No, never,
never sad.
No, you were right. By the way. There was a good job of getting
the Hastings story off the front page. It's like now gone. Oh,
yeah. So that's the end of that. Yeah. And then they give him a
little snide, they sniped at him in the New York Times, which I
thought was funny with his obit
I might I might, oh, I might have the clip of the day you
give me the obit what's the Well, I
have a clip of the obit. Nice when she got to Hastings
Hastings journalist Michael Hastings is firing back at the
New York Times after the paper published an obituary that left
a sour taste in readers mouths. The Times obituary had cast
doubt on the accuracy of Hastings profile of General
Stanley McChrystal. It read an inquiry into the article by the
Defense Department Inspector General the next year found
insufficient evidence of wrongdoing by the general his
military aides and civilian advisors. The inspector
general's report also questioned the accuracy of some aspects of
the article, which was repeatedly defended by Mr.
Hastings and Rolling Stone. Zack, what do you make of this?
Do you give the benefit of the doubt, to Rolling Stone?
Certainly, I mean, if you go through the inspector general
report that they're referring to there, of course, the Inspector
General doesn't confirm every last detail that Michael
Hastings gotten his report because the people who said
things that were inflammatory and controversial in the report
aren't just going to turn around and tell the IG Yes, I did that
and the military should fire me for doing so why is that the
only way to corroborated surely the inspector general talks to a
third party study? Certainly I think so. And if you go through
the report, you can actually see that people the IG actually says
in many in many circumstances, we've confirmed The basic
substance of the exchange took place but perhaps not in the
precise context in which in which Hastings portrayed them. I
think it's absurd to look at an IG report and say okay, it's
supposed to corroborate every detail of an incredibly damning
story about about the government. The the IG is, is
trying to, you know, find get get to the truth of these
things, but they're conducting an investigation after another
journalistic investigation has taken place, the evidence is
going to be different a year or several months after the actual
story comes out. And that's basically what the IG report
said, I think the times is really grossly mischaracterizing
this and has grossly mischaracterized it for a long
time as a report that somehow cleared McChrystal and the
military leadership in Afghanistan of any of the
charges that actually took place that were that were launched in
the Hastings piece, why would the time to do it? Are they just
mistaken? Or do you think that they're just turning to a
political military line? You know, it's hard to know. I mean,
as a journalist, I will say, if it really does suck when you
cover something for a long time, and then some punk comes in and
just blows up all your reporting and better job than you. Yeah,
and that that's what you know, you get your clock clean like
that, you just kind of suck it up and say, Well, that was a
great story and move on. The Times really seems to have
really, this has been the editorial position of the
newsroom for a long time. You know, the, the piece they have
on the IG report, which is years old now, still says, you know,
IG report clears McChrystal. I mean, that's not what the IG
report did. So I think I think the edit for whatever reason,
the Times just has journalists that have interpreted the scene
a lot differently than than Hastings and Rolling Stone have
and and, you know, they could write whatever obituary obituary
they want. I think, ultimately, most people remember the
Hastings piece, and the Hastings piece had a lot more impact on
the public debate, rather than the obituaries and maybe an obit
is not the place to air that sort of stuff anyway,
right? Yeah. So the times are happy. They're like, oh, good
riddance to that a hole. Exactly. Yeah. So here's a
here's a clip from two January 2012. When Hastings released his
book he was promoting it on. I think this is Russia today. And
he was still young and hopeful and chipper and enthusiastic
journalists full of idealistic views.
It almost seems like anytime someone comes out and says
something that goes against the the mainstream narrative,
they're exiled as some sort of a heretic. Yeah, I don't see that
really changing, do you? I think, Well, I think the way to
change this, I
mean, in the back in the day, if you did something like this, I
would have been hammered and buried. But now there's enough
other outlets out where you can act, who will defend you who
will put you on TV, who puts you on the radio show?
Who will support you on Twitter, Facebook's out there social
media. So there is I think there's opportunity for the sort
of golden age to kind of resist against this, but it's an
uphill, it's an uphill battle. You know, I mean, the lesson,
the reason why the response was so severe, in my case, or in a
case, like WikiLeaks with Bradley Manning, and Julian
Assange, is because they want to set an example they want to show
Oh, no, you can't do this. You can't actually report what
powerful people say, you can't. You can't try to write as
accurately and as truthful as possible with these people.
Because if you do, you will be exiled. But that's that's no
longer the case. And in fact, what I've tried to do and show
with this book is look, I'm still alive. I'm still standing
to heaven, but a drone strike out on me yet I'm not in Gitmo.
You know, I yet yeah, no, I How sad is that? That's terrible.
What a clip.
They haven't put me in getting more them for the drone strike
on me. I haven't killed me
yet. Yeah. And now he's dead. Oh, my. Yeah.
Yeah, this is, uh, now, I have received several reports. And
this, of course, is all you know, oh, it's crazy conspiracy
theory talk. But the word is that this possibly could have
been a small drone strike. And if you look at the
well, before you go on, I want to report these words. Because
I've got to like, read through all these things, as many as I
could. And all the reports from that neighbors said it sounded
like a bomb went off explosion exact now. Now. I live in it on
a hill where there was a terrible intersection and not an
intersection, but a freeway, an exit that had a route. They took
it out. But it had routinely had one or two wrecks a week where
somebody was drunk or they were going too fast. And they tried
to get off on this exit. And they just plow into the pole.
Right. And it happened week after week. And it has and I can
also hear Rex on the fray. There's a distinctive sound to a
car crash. That is not an explosion.
Right? It's in fact it's Yeah, exactly.
Say oh car wreck. very distinctive, so So when all
these witnesses are saying Oh, I'd sound like an explosion.
Yeah, I thought the car was had a bomb in it.
could've had a bomb in it. Well, here's here's. So I got a lot of
and from some of our younger producers, actually who sent me
academic speeches, videos on YouTube, and you can go watch
the whole thing. Here's one minute from the from this is
Steven, check away from University of California, San
Diego. And all the work that they did. This is 2011. On
compromising automobiles through multiple, multiple ways. We have
vehicle to vehicle
communications for things like crash avoidance. The final
category that we considered was long range wireless
communication. We're here we're looking we're considering
attackers who are able to send signals over miles or even at a
global scale. So we have a bunch of digital radio signals like HD
radio or satellite radio that can transmit over a number of
miles. And telematics units are becoming common in basically
every car, every manufacturer either has one or is making one.
And these are used for things like roadside assistance or
automatic crash reporting. So now, I'm going to talk about
several of these that we actually attacked. In
particular, we were able to compromise the diagnostic tool,
MediaPlayer, Bluetooth and cellular. And to be clear, every
single one of these that we looked at led to a complete car
compromise doing everything that we showed in the previous work,
including doing things like disabling the brakes. So
this is a great speech, you got it, you got to see this thing.
And definitely watching by just as an adjunct to these clips, or
this concept, play that clip. Does the FBI use drones? Oh,
yeah. You learn? Yeah, Mueller.
Does the FBI owner currently used drones? And if so for what
purpose? Yes. And for surveillance? Does the FBI use
drones for surveillance on US soil? Yes. I want to go on to a
question. Well, let me just put it in context. Eleanor are very,
very minimal way.
That's right. Only one car at a time. And minimal way, minimal
way. But like the way he
says yes, and then starts thinking about his answer. He
goes out of here.
So the shadowhawk is what is being suggested the shadowhawk
might be the kind of drone that could carry can be weaponized,
just enough to blow up a vehicle. And with certainly one
that is has its brakes disabled, and maybe the accelerators being
punched down. I mean, I'm sorry. Call me a conspiracy theorist.
You're a conspiracy theorist. You're crazy as I
am, keep it up. But if someone gives you a CD and says, Hey,
play that in your car, don't do it. That is one of the ways
that's exactly what this speech is about, is that they could
burn a w m a file that would play perfectly. But the minute
you put it in your car player, it releases a virus that causes
a core dump and boom, they've gotten a hold of the entire
system. It's kind of scary
that you know, the, especially like forage have this. They're
using
ixnay on the Ord fe.
They're using
Microsoft But that's after 2005. Right?
I don't know when they start using.
We don't have please, please say yes, yes. Adam after 2005. Yes,
Adam
after 2005 I believe if we don't
we don't have the time to sink touch or whatever we don't have
done. What do you got? You have a big long curve. Yeah. Yeah,
we got the big clunker with the old school with a really big
knobs.
Okay, well, that's probably okay.
Yeah. Yes, thank you. Now, this horrible. It's just totally,
totally horrible. He was here's DARPA.
Good afternoon. Right. So we've been hearing a lot today about
the importance of improving computer security. As Dan just
alluded to, though, it's not just traditional computers that
we need to worry about. There are many other kinds of systems
as well. The slide that's been omitted, showed a result of the
researchers at UCSD and the University of Washington hacking
into the dashboard display of a typical American sedan, making
it show that the car was going 140 miles an hour while in park.
Drilling down a little bit modern vehicles consists of
between 30 and 100 embedded control units, which are
essentially small computers connected via Canvas. These cars
are required by law to have a diagnostic port, typically
located under the steering wheel that allows mechanics to
download diagnostic information and to perform software updates.
In the first paper, the researchers from UCSD and the
University of Washington showed that if they could touch the
canvas to that diagnostic port, they could take over or all of
the functionality of the car that's controlled by software.
And in a modern automobile, that's pretty much everything.
The brakes are controlled by software because of antilock
braking. The acceleration is controlled by software because
of cruise control. And those fancy new cars that can park
themselves, even the steering is under software control.
knifes said, I don't think we have to go any further.
Well, how about this? Remember when they had all these Toyotas
that were going out of control the celebration that this was
actually just a test run of some people trying to hack into these
systems and getting you know making mistakes? And and is it
never made any sense? It was going on for a movie? Everyone
remembers this? It never gets revisited by the media. No, the
Toyotas were going out of control day after day. And
let's be specific Toyota Prius. Yeah, they were they were just
with car of your typical Obama bot.
Exactly. It is a card that Obama bots, and it would give would be
at a stuck accelerator and they Oh, I what am I gonna do? And it
was like, you know, and then they they never got to the
bottom of it. Figured out floor mosey format Yeah, there was a
floor mat then they decided that and then it just stopped
magically stopped. Same floor mats Yeah. No and magically
stopped because we of course assume there was some way of
gouging Toyota by the government to to extort money, which is
still a valid idea, but who knows that the government was
setting these things into into high speed? Well, it's
it appears to me if you put all the pieces together, and it's
very hard often for people to you know, they think it's like
science fiction, you know, start with when you hear going back to
the beginning of this program, and you hear this Russell Tice
say oh no, I did all my spying from space. You know, so yeah,
and it's very easy and then we just beam down whatever we need
to do we talk to your Sirius Satellite Radio your Bluetooth
something. And then we just take over control of your car. I'm
happy I like our old cars. I'm driving around you keep that
Lexus John. Don't don't get anything new. Nothing. Keep the
Lexus.
Don't get a hot rod next. Yeah. 35 Ford, a hot rod. It should be
like the old fart and a hot rod.
That would be pretty sexy. Hey, girls
really Hey, girls. Do you think that still works? Yeah, sure.
With the expose the engine with chromium Chrome. Right. And
you've got the fender the Federalist wheels, of course.
Oh,
yeah. Yeah, you can do that. If the car is under a certain
weight. You don't need fenders. Right. And so
is this dirt everywhere? I think this is I envision you and like
a pickup truck. Hot Rod and one of those like the short the
short bed Ford. Yeah, that'd be cool. Right? And it has the
little wheels in the front. So you're slanted. Right? Right.
And you think you got flames on the side of flames? And then do
you have an opponent and if it big blower, a big you know,
tutor on the front of blower? Right? Right. Well, yeah, when
you hit like when you hit the accelerator, you see the valves.
Open up, open up now they are kind of really rockets forward.
The Oh yeah.
And I think you've got super fat tires in the back. What
do you have to lower? Yeah. Hey, girls. Hey, girls. Yeah, yeah.
Who the hell is that guy? What is this drive? Look at what's
ever seen these cars anymore? You have to go to a special
meetings to find them.
No, we had them. What it was maybe five weeks ago? Oh, yeah.
I'm
in town in Austin. Yeah, we
get the big hot rod weekend.
And every guy is at least 60. No. Oh, well, that's a plus. No,
that's really that was last weekend, we had the Republic of
Texas Rally. That's essentially a whole bunch of dentists and
veterinarians who are all weekend warriors. They all get
on their Harley. And they come to Austin. Hey, ain't got my
beach on the back. But you know, the really tame, tame kind of
guys.
So, so let's move to this. You heard the daily woman I assume.
Oh my god. Do you?
Do you want to play it or want to
play it before we dig?
I have her. I have the whole thing. I haven't broken up but I
think it's two and a half minutes.
I have SQL part one and part two. You have the complete thing
where they start? Yeah. slobbery. Yeah, let's
let's just play it from the biggest plant so this is Claire
Daly she is in the Irish parliament I believe
right and she's a lefty but she's a she seems like a
reasonably she's my friend person.
I like her. She's my friend is what she is.
She's hilarious. Hold on a second.
I have a wiki page here. Let's just I want to give her props.
These are new, Nigel Farraj. And yes,
elected Socialist Party.
Kitty Socialist Party, by the way. Oh, really my own party.
Let me see. She was previously previously Socialist Party
Councillor for the swords, electoral electoral areas is
very complicated. I don't know how Ireland works. Sorry,
Ireland. designee she resigned from the OC resigned from the
Socialist Party on the 31st of August, re designating herself
as a United Left Alliance, te d whatever that is. So anyway, he
or she is
Teesha I think it's important to take this opportunity to bring a
bit of balance into the discussions around the visit of
the US president and his wife, given the almost unprecedented
slobbering over them that the nation has been exposed to, by
the way, we've got to start using some of these terms.
Unprecedented is beautiful, unprecedented slavery, which is
unprecedented. I want to start talking like that unprecedented
slobbering
over the last number of days. And it's really hard to know,
which is worse, whether it's the outpouring of the Obamas
themselves, or the sycophantic fawning over them by sections of
the media, and the political establishment. We've had
separate and special news bulletins by the state
broadcaster, to tell us what Michelle Obama and her daughters
had for lunch in Dublin, but very little questioning of the
fact that she was having lunch with Mr. Toxic soil himself.
Who was there, by the way, who was mono? Oh, was Bono? Yeah.
We had very little challenging of the fact that she's glad to
be home home a country that she's been in less than a week,
and that her husband has very tenuous links. And, and, of
course, the biggest irony of all the profit stations of Obama
himself, in his speech to the children in Northern Ireland
about peace, when he said, those who choose a path of peace, I
promise you that the United States of America will support
you every step of the way. We will be the wind at your back.
Now I asked you is this person going for the hypocrites of the
Century award? Because we have to call things by their right
names. And the reality is that by any serious examination, this
man is a war criminal. He has just announced his decision to
supply herbs to the Syrian opposition, including the
jihadists fueling the destabilization of that region,
and continuing to undermine secularism and knock back
conditions for women.
So that that was beautiful. But then, then, she goes in, and she
hammers all these guys, which I love the most. This
is in essence stalling the Geneva peace talks by trying to
broker enhanced leverage for the Syrian opposition by giving them
arms and to hell with the 1000s more who leave lose their lives,
or the 10s of 1000s more who will be displaced as this war
goes on. This is the man who has facilitated a 200% increase in
the use of drones, which have killed 1000s of people including
hundreds of children, and new T shirts. You are the one who has
turned a blind eye on these activities. You've talked about
the g8 being an opportunity to showcase our Ireland, but is it
not a reality that you have showcased us as a nation of
Pimps prostituting ourselves in return for a pat on the head to
be honest with you speculate speculating this morning but
here we're going to take the cabinets out in leprechaun
hearts decorated with stars and stripes to really Mark abject
humiliation
I love this woman OH my God and he
just lays it on the star she just keeps
hounding I just love the the leprechauns the
imagery is great the liver the leprechauns with stars and
stripes on the hat
you know and I'm like Yeah, yeah, this will be on every
single channel. Oh nice. Yeah, good work. I'm very very very
good. And I love I love the whole slamming of the Mr. tax
exile himself. That's sometimes it takes someone like that to
open everyone's eyes but it doesn't get any exposure. No one
is paying Oh, nobody
picks it up. I haven't seen it on CNN. It's all just a couple
of blogs have gotten leopard because it is getting around the
internet.
But I'm funny unprecedented hypocrisy isn't going for the
hypocrisy of the year until you Mr. Drone himself.
Some Bona was there, boy. Oh, can
I just I can just say one thing. Yeah. If you have children in
the Rome cover their ears. Fuck Bono. All right.
Bono was there for the g8 to argue against the which we
played on the last show that we're supposed to be talking
about tax evasion. And they did. Seriously. He was there to
promote the idea that it would this was okay then it moved his
money. I don't know. How do you explain this to me? Bono has
moved most of his money out of Ireland, which I always thought
was a tax haven to Holland.
Yes. Because Holland is is a tax haven because Holland charges no
two does not tax royalties. This is why you there I can show you
the Rolling Stone ladies in Amsterdam. Bono. Sir Bono. Yeah,
I'm sure he's a sir. Is a sir. I'm sure he's got a title of
Knighthood or something. Yes. So the Rolling Stones have four
buildings, entire buildings in Amsterdam. entire buildings
filled with people doing important stuff. Important
stuff, I tell you. Leprechauns running around investing his
money to there's no tax on royalties, which is why and then
also goes for patent royalties. This is why you have the Dutch
Irish sandwich.
The night of the British Empire. I
told you, I told you this is why if you have a patent or as they
would say, a patent on a technology such as I don't know,
an iPhone, then you want to charge money for the use of the
patent. And you want that money to be paid to your other
company, Apple patent Inc, in Amsterdam, who then subsequently
have no tax on the royalties, because that's a creative
royalty.
Nice, yeah. Yeah.
Now if we had royalties from this show,
which we don't know, we set up shop and in our Hell yeah, hell
yeah.
We believe in large.
Like Bono, like Bono.
He's a dick. I told you about I interviewed him once. Yeah, you
said he was addict total and he walked away.
I can walk from the walks. Because you're being mean to
him.
I asked him a question about something. I don't know. It's
something he didn't like. And instead of being a man, and he
walked away, and the edge was still the edge is like, oh, a
guest log that.
What is it? You asked?
I don't remember nothing. I remember being like, what? What
he just walked away? And probably ask something you know
about? I don't know. I mean, it was innocent. This is old MTV
days is maybe? I don't know. How What's your creative process? I
have no idea what I had. Whatever it was, it wasn't come
up with this crap. It wasn't to his liking and he just walked
away. He's Deke deke. Douche dick.
Well, he's losing favor in Ireland after the speech. If you
look at the son of son in Ireland, story is is Bono, Bono
losing his his popularity? I think the Irish are gonna reject
him. No, because of this thing is that there was a front page
story about in Ireland, not here with Obama, Michelle, and having
lunch with Bono. It's like it was a big scandal, because he
was only there to promote the idea that he shouldn't be taxed.
But
this is right. But this is how the elites of the world you
know, so the only reason the Obamas were there is because
it's a tax haven. You know, he's had Apple on his mind all these
days, I can only talk about Apple, Apple Apple, because, you
know, this is where Apple has set up their shop and tons of
companies have set up there because of the low tax rate. And
that's the only reason that they're like, Hey, thanks, guys.
Good work. Thank you. I got an interesting note from one of our
producers about membrane Obama was we talked about in the last
show about the yokels. Yeah, the yokels let me just
refresh your memory about potentially critical
infrastructure that could be compromised. Yeah, there were a
handful of yokels up in New York who stole $45 million at ATMs.
Over the course of I think it was 18 hours.
So our producer sends he says, you know, you didn't get it. He
said Obama is used to such big scams, like billions and
billions and trillions of dollars with his banker buddies,
that when someone steals 45 million from ATMs, they're
yokels. Amateurs is amateurs. Like yeah, there's something to
that. Why else would he say it?
By the way, I doubt the math. They stole $45 million in 48
hours from ATMs. doesn't sound right. It would have to be more
than yokels. You'd have to be an army of yokels.
I still, like the whole idea of him just thinking that just
Joseph what amateurs
Yeah, you're 45 Have no closers. Really? You kidding me? That's a
good observation.
Hey, let's speaking of yokels. Why don't we thank some of our
local yokels. What do you say our local
yokels are going to show my son moved by donating to no agenda?
Imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah, that'd be fun I
have a bunch of I do have a letter I want to read before I
go in Exede donated ad which I'll get to his name but it's
dodge is calls himself a go artist, bartender waiter slave.
And he says he's dropping donation in the mail. Pay Pal
being a douche all of a sudden with my card, and yadda yadda
blah blah blah been a Lister since January 2013. is a new
listener relatively speaking, love the show, but oh, so he's
the big butt. Especially in Louisiana. Hey, oh, no, just
kidding. Yay. And women are beautiful. While listening to an
old podcast of the no agenda show. Mr. Dvorak went into this
great ramble about how disgusting Louisiana Cajun
cooking is.
Oh god this is not something to be repeated with. This was a we
I think we lost half of our audience
just wanted you to know again though of course we didn't get
fired.
We did not get fired. We're still seeing you. We're still
here. I
just want you to know all of my donations to the show came
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Yes, John you can put upscale and Cajun next to each other.
All right, so he is in Word. He is in a town called beach
Alabama actually and he runs the there's apparently a chain of
these things and this is called the Louisiana land Yap, which is
spelled lhg nia PPE, which is a classic. God knows where that
came from Word. And so if you want to go to the Louisiana land
Yap which is in Orange Beach, Alabama, Orange Beach, or the
cafe grot say which is an Italian place forget that go to
Louisiana to land Yap anyway I'm sorry. I was I do like the style
of cooking in Louisiana I'm just saying it's a lot of it is
pretty old fashioned.
Well I will say as an aside note, but emerald
who came out in New York went to Louisiana adopted the cuisine is
modernized in some ways at least for that area. And I arrows
restaurants are fantastic. Seriously,
did you want Did you know that noodles is going public?
Oh really? Yeah, with all that bad publicity.
I'm thinking I'm thinking this is a short sell. Because this
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Noodles. IPO noodles expects an IPO of 13 to $15 a share IPO
terms they're gonna raise up to 77 point 5 million which will
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Okay, might be might be but we gotta be careful. I mean, we
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Wow, I'm good at that. I remember that. So well. Got
that thing down. I
got it down. I do. All right. We're gonna very interesting
invitation. We have our little dinner club here in Austin.
Yeah, the discreet charm of the bourgeoisie club. What are you?
It's a movie by Boone Well, which perfectly describes the
situation in which you're ensnared. Say it again. A
discreet charm of the bourgeoisie.
Oh, well, yes. And so we have a, our next dinner will be on July
5, because Miss Mickey is going back to Amsterdam, do her foot
project. And then she's going back for three days. She's
coming back on the fourth. And on the fifth, we have our next
dinner. And so there's a little email that goes around. This is
really beautiful. And you know, it's a it's actually it's kind
of funny, because they always make fun of me on the email.
Like they make fun of you. Oh, yeah. It's like So Russ, the
brain professor. He's like, I'm in Washington, DC. Despite my
association with you. I had no problem with my clearances into
the White House. Oh, oh. I've got Yeah. And I'm like, No, it's
because of your association with me. You had no problem. And then
the other person is like, Laurie. He's like, Have you ever
requested your file on the the Freedom of Information Act from
the FBI? And I'm like, no UPS doesn't ship anything over 50
pounds. Thank you very much. So this is called the so we will
have new guests at the table. This is very smart. This is very
smart. And then
these are new people altogether. They haven't been you've never
met have not met them. They are however in Austin. And why are
you having them for dinner if you've never met? No, no,
we the dinner party is at Lori's place. It's her time. See? Okay,
and she is adding people to the mix.
What about that woman that you insulted the last time you had
to she gone? She added the group. Well, who
did I insult? Oh, no, no, no, that was a different dinner that
was with the gay friends. Oh, the
gay dinners. Just a party animal. Oh, yeah. I didn't get
any of these clips on time.
It's very hard. Well, even better. I have a clip of the new
guest. How about that I've got a clip of the guest. So
you're gonna you're moving up the ladder are actually
clippable
they provide their own clips. Hey, we're having dinner with
curry. Let me send him a clip, a little teaser. This is James
Pennebaker and his lovely wife and I shall be reading both of
their books. I have them on the Kindles and I haven't told them
that of course, but and I'm not going to say hey, nice to meet
you. I read your book. No, I'm going to sneak it in and I you
know, because they're professors of course. And he is a
professor. He is actually brain professors boss at the
university here. The Longhorn thing that you teach Texas,
University of Texas He wrote a book, which I thought would be,
it's real no agenda material. I can't recommend that yet,
because I haven't really gotten into it, called The Secret Life
of pronouns. And he has developed not just a thesis, but
computer software and all kinds of stuff that can help you
detect people when, through people's use of language when
they're lying. And in particular, when people are
using something he has coined performative, I don't know if
he's coined it, but he calls him performative. And I, and I think
it's going to be really interesting to meet this guy,
but I wanted to play a little clip where he has clips inside
his clip about and it's something that we follow all the
time about how in particular presidents use particular
phrases and language to lie to us. And I wanted to share that.
So will you listen to this for a moment? And
it sounds like a winner? Yeah. You know, language is a
complicated world, especially when we're trying to understand
how language differs when someone's telling the truth
versus lying. Now, one thing that is common is that when
people tell the truth, they tend to use the words like I, me and
my at higher rates than when they're lying, except under one
circumstance. And this circumstance is one that was
first studied by philosophers, and specifically a guy by the
name of John Austin, Austin studies, something called for
formatives. An example of this would be, I want you to know,
I'm holding a shovel.
In the video, he's holding a pen when he says this,
that, in reality, this is not a shovel. Nevertheless, what I
just said, Is it true or not, I want you to know I'm holding a
shovel. In a weird kind of way. That's true. Why? Because the
first part of this sentence I want you to know, is true, I do
really want you to know I'm holding a shovel, now, I'm
holding a shovel was completely false. But that's not the
premise of the sentence. And that's what a performative is.
Now, so happens that this is used quite a bit. And I've seen
it a lot, especially in politicians. I'd like to begin
with one of my favorite lies of all times, and one that you may
well know from Bill Clinton when he was president. But I
want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to
listen to me, I'm gonna say this, again.
Did not have sexual relations with that woman. Miss Lewinsky
was that stunning or what? We just heard three powerful
performance right in a row. I want to say one thing to the
American people, I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say
this again. I did not have sexual relationships with that
woman, Miss Lewinsky. What he said was technically true. I
want to say this again, I didn't have sex with that woman. Well,
he did. He was saying it again, he was being completely honest,
except for the minor part about the big lie part. But from a
pure linguistic, and logical philosophical perspective, he
was telling the truth. Let's finish this with a few of few
recent presidents and other people who use performative
without any judgment on whether these people are telling the
truth or not.
I want to say this to the television audience, I made my
mistakes. I just want to tell you that
when we negotiate, I'm going to dive, as I say, on my side, I've
got $22 billion, and the American people have got to
understand this. That this program won't go
forward. And I want to I want everybody to understand that
this is a jobs issue.
So let them things like let me be clear, the fact of the
matter. This is all great stuff.
Well, this is a guy you need to know. Yeah, I'm very. He's a
he's an expert at looking at structures. Yep. And now there
was there's different ways that people deal with liars. I mean,
especially when you deal with somebody who is a pathological
liar, which are very difficult to catch. Because this is like a
game they play. But generally speaking, when you're dealing
with liars, a normal process is using their body language and
cues and other things, which is sometimes never works, right. I
mean, it's a good idea, but he's doing it by deconstructing the
actual structure of what they say. Yeah, and
it goes pretty deep. And of course, now I'm really nervous
because I'm gonna be so conscious that he's like, Yeah,
you're gonna be like
trying to kid curry. Best podcast in the universe. Says
who? seems great.
Yeah, that's gonna be famous. I'm gonna have to temper myself
though because I know I get excited. Did I have to calm
down? It's dinner after all.
Yeah, maybe he's, well, maybe I'll clam up when he's at
dinner. You might be one of those guests is not talkative,
he doesn't trust the outside. Well, he's weird.
I liked it very much. So I like because I learned this new we
have a word for called the performative. And we are we are
usually looking at the physical tells, which there are a lot of
the costs and other costs, but, and in his book, he really says
it's really all the small world words, it's the pronouns, it's
like, you know, it's the eye. It's the, the, and you know, all
these little things and how people use those tells you if
they're really full of crap or not, but the big ones is like,
you know, the fact of the matter. Let me be clear, let me
be clear, doesn't mean it's true.
Yeah, let me beat Yeah, no, you're just being clear. Yeah,
she's being very clear. I'll talk slower. Let me
tell the American people, okay, you're telling doesn't mean
you're telling us the truth? That's very smart.
Um, no, this is a good example. This is the definition, the Free
Dictionary of performative, which is kind of interesting
because it's more than just that. It's really relating to or
being an utterance that performs an act or creates a state of
affairs by the fact that is being uttered under appropriate
or conventional circumstances. And this includes a justice of
this of the piece uttering I now pronounce you husband and wife.
Yeah. What does that mean? Thus creating a legal union or as one
uttering I promise, thus, performing the act of promising
so it is performance, a performative utterance is
another another definition, demanding an utterance that
constitutes some act, especially the ACT described by the verb
for example, I confess that I was, I was there, I confess that
I was there is, in itself a confession. It's also
performative in the narrows narrower sense. While I'd like
you to meet, effecting an introduction is performative
only in the looser sense? This is a very interesting word, this
performative thing, I'm gonna look into this. Well, I'm gonna
I think we use it quite a bit. I
think we use it a lot. And also, is it not possible and this is
probably what I'm most interested in is can you defeat
this? Or can you use this to your advantage? And how is it
really close to neuro linguistic programming? I mean, where do
where is the line?
Well, this is the question you'll be asking at dinner.
Yes, I'll say could you pass the potato salad?
Is that any just performative or anything like that? Can it be
used in at Neuro Linguistic Programming manner? Can
I get it? Can I use it to make people send me money?
Please, support that to support the show. Of course,
obviously,
I gotta I gotta be interesting dinner. So
that's July 5, I'll keep you appraised.
You know, we actually do a show on July 4, we're actually going
to be working the two of us and that's right on the Fourth of
July. That's right. I have a flag hanging outside the door.
Yes. And I got this huge flag hanging off the balcony. I have
a flag that hung above. Well, hold on. I have a yellow flag
that hung at the it's one of the souvenir flies. They hang the
flag in front of the white in front of the state house and
then they sell it.
No, it was a bad idea, though. Is it? I have here certificate
of authenticity.
As you all know, shows never faked.
Well, no, it's signed by can commander Hill and Command
Sergeant Major Menton to all Hill? Yeah. To all who shall see
these presents. The flag of the United States of America
accompanying this certificate has been proudly flown over
Forward Operating Base, Oregon II headquarter of Task Force
white Kurt Currahee. Oh, you bet. You're in a rock country?
No, this is Afghanistan. This is the 100 and first Airborne
Division presented to Mrs. flag to house and it to Mr. Adam
curry in sincere appreciation for your support and sacrifice.
For my sacrifices, John. Yeah, well. I always tell him, I don't
feel good about the things you send me. I really don't feel
good about that. I'll take the flag and I love the certificate.
But the standard language really doesn't apply to me.
customized it earlier. Douchebag.
I would have loved that for your douchebaggery while we're here
eating sand you douchebag here's a flag to Erdogan of Turkey. Did
you Did you hear what he said?
I've heard a lot of what he said what are you referring to?
He's saying I show Well, this has translated Of course. Yep.
He's saying this. What's happening here is the same
forces foreign forces who are stoking the protests in Brazil.
The same game is now being played over in Brazil. Ertegun
said the symbols are the same. The protesters, the posters are
the same. Twitter, Facebook are the same. The international
media is the same. The protests are being led from the same
center. They're doing their best to achieve in Brazil, what they
could not achieve in Turkey. It's the same game, the same
trap, the same aim.
And the goal of this. And the rationale, the goal that means
to there's motive regime change. regime change. Well, you know,
the Brazil thing is not Yeah, well, it might be true in
Turkey, but Brazil, they have regime changes constantly. Yeah.
So this Brazil thing doesn't apply. I think that's wrong.
Well, I'm I'm not I'm just I'm not saying and Erdogan is saying
it why So
what's he was he accusing see Russians or the Americans?
Americans? I think he's cute, or the Chinese think he's accusing
the Americans
seems more like a Russian ploy.
Maybe. And here's a little Federal Register note that
popped up. Remember, we had? Well, actually, I can just read
it to you. This is from the president named Mr. Speaker, Mr.
President, certain US forces recently deployed to Jordan
solely to participate in a training exercise. We talked
about this, which was early Eagle, I think it was. This
exercise ended on June 20 2013. At the request of the Government
of Jordan, a combat equipped detachment of approximately 700
of these forces remained in Jordan, after the conclusion of
the exercise to join other US forces already in Jordan. That
attachment that participate in the exercise and remained in
Jordan includes Patriot missile systems, fight aircraft and
related support command control and communications personnel and
systems. That attachment will remain in Jordan, in full
coordination with the Government of Jordan until the security
situation becomes such that it is no longer needed.
This is unbelievable, which is never by the way, oh,
the guy just and this is the letter from the president
regarding the War Powers resolution to under War Powers
resolution. He's saying I'm just gonna deploy 700 guys.
Yeah, in addition, yeah, to whatever was already there. I
said, God, Colonel, I
know Yeah, God knows. The deployment of this detachment
has been directed in furtherance of US national security. Oh,
it's protecting us and foreign policy interests. Yeah.
Including the important national interest in supporting the
security of Jordan and promoting regional stability. You are a
war criminal?
Yeah, you're defending the guy at the beginning of the show.
Now you're calling him a war criminal. Make up your mind.
He's a nice war criminal. I like him.
What about this flight? 800 thing keeps getting murkier.
Yeah, I think I have a feeling this is this is this feels like
more distraction than anything. I'm not quite sure why
it is a distraction because it's not getting as much play. It
gets kind of mentioned here. Remember this? This more guys
keep coming out of the woodwork saying hey, this is bullcrap.
Hold on a second. Where
are you seeing the promo? Because this is this.
It's just scattered. I don't have it. No, I know. You know,
it's a new TV network.
It's not a new it's like a Netflix network. This is this is
their thing. This is their big documentary. It's I'm gonna
unpack but doesn't mean it's all bull crap. Just because
somebody's you know, doing a little PR for it.
No, but there's but there's, there's no mean it all it's just
riling up the same old theory where we know this thing was
brought down by the some kind of shoulder fired missile da?
Well, I think I've I have the passenger manifest.
Oh, well. Okay. How was brought down as irrelevant versus who
was who was brought down that oh,
there's only there's a number of the lots of bankers are on this
plane. Oh, okay. Interesting. They took out a lot of bankers.
And they took out the guy who was the senior senior systems
engineer for the Aegis missile system. I thought that was
interesting. Yeah. So they got rid of him. But the one that
gets me and I'm still looking into this one, because Mohammed
forgot, killed and on the list of one of these websites that
says, we don't know too much. Why this guy's killed, but he
was one of the guys who did business with Ron Brown. Oh, on
the Ivory Coast, and we know Ron Brown was assassinated. He was
the Secretary of Commerce under Clinton, and he was killed and
around the time that this plane went down, but st within the
same timeframe, and there was a whole bunch of guys that died in
question. Then we got into getting back to the Clinton kill
list, but you move on to another good version. Have a Clinton
body count the body count one of the body count websites, there's
a bunch of them. So we have one linked in the show notes. And I
put
it under to to the head. The Clinton body count, which you
sent is very interesting. You sent this to me. And you said,
Wow, I hadn't really tracked this for a while and it's grown.
It has
and bolted Hastings on or they haven't put him on there yet.
Um, no, he's not on yet. But then I said, Oh, my God, I had
just planned on bringing up the Obama body count. And do you
want to just because you know, when you think about how many
people have died in association with the Obama administration,
let's just put it politely.
Yeah, but this is all during the Hillary Clinton. Secretary of
State.
No, no, no, no, no, this I haven't forgotten how many
people have croak.
Oh, it goes back further.
Oh, my God. Okay,
I'm all yours now. Okay.
Mama Louise Anderson, as 79 and her 52 year old daughters elder
white, the two women aid workers who were shot dead in Nairobi,
Kenya in 2008. Of course, you know, they, they probably, you
know, the rumor was that they probably knew something about
the true origins of the of the President, Lieutenant Colonel
Christopher rabl. And Sergeant Bradley as well died in Camp
Bastion. That was three days after Benghazi has never been
talked about. By the way, no one has really brought even we
haven't brought that up. Muhammad Buche tea. This is the
Tunisian guy that they had to get rid of because of course,
Tunisia helped set up the fake kidnapping that went wrong. Jeff
Joe Black, found dead on hiking trail from blunt force trauma to
the head. He's the Chicago activists who claim that Rahm
Emanuel was put into place in Chicago to oversee a coming
false flag event. Larry bland and Nate Spencer, two members of
the Trinity Church murdered at the same time. Andrew Breitbart
Well, of course, Steve bridges, the member this guy, the
impersonator who offended President Obama remember the guy
who did Bush did Obama and then it Obama and then he did he die?
I don't remember him dying. Yeah,
we talked about we must have talked to I forgot about that.
This is August. Freshman Obama No wonder none of these
impressions do Obama. Back guys did the best impression was this
guy. Well, what happened? He's dead.
Yeah, murdered by that impression. And he and he died
by anaphylaxis. This is like you know, eating a bad peanut
essentially, and being allergic
to shellfish poisoning.
Robin Copeland, former Energy Department official who took
part in several significant disarmament programs died
suddenly on people always die with heart attacks or some weird
thing. Oh, very young. prusik acid. Michael Cormier, forensic
technician, he's the guy who was the corner on Breitbart.
Remember that guy died? Remember that? Yeah. Madeline Payne
Dunham. Obama's grandmother died two days before the general
election. He flew out to see her for one hour alone. No records
cremated immediately ashes dispersed. That's kind of crude.
Beverly Eckerd. The Continental flight victim she was 911 with
the widow who was making a lot of noise members. She was member
her. Yeah. Of course extortion 17. That is the Chinook
helicopter helicopter callsign extortion 17 shot down while
transporting the Navy SEALs,
right? Yeah, we find that to be suspicious SHA
Bill gwatney close friend of Bill and Hillary Clinton a
Clinton superdelegate was fatally shot in 2008 shooter had
a post it note with a mystery phone number. I'm not quite sure
why that was linked to Obama, Lieutenant querries Harris Jr.
key witness and federal probe into passport information stolen
from the State Department.
Oh, remember that. That's also Hillary. Yeah, but
what's interesting, Obama's passport breach and Astrid
unanswered questions. Harris worked for a security firm run
by John Brennan. Later to be a terrorism adviser to Obama
listed as detail in YouTube video which was an employee of
John Brennan when murdered and Brennan Of course, as is now
head of the CIA, NDP heart Guantanamo attorney assigned to
defend Muhammad Rahim al Afghani and he died. Michael Hastings is
in here. He was in Benghazi attack suspect dies in Cairo
shootout. Stephanie Tubbs Jones. She's the one that she the one
that crashed her car in the garage. Remember that?
These are ludicrous. Yeah.
David Kaufman murder in Chicago rush street brawl by a nephew of
Mayor Daley. The White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley, the
Crim children oh yeah that was the the the writer no wait a
minute yeah CNBC exec children. That's right. Nanny stabbed
herself upon mother's arrival Uh huh. Calm Quwata we know that is
that was the guy who who told people about the weird Obama
ritual going on at the at the National Assembly. What do you
call it
name was kumquat
calm Quwata any wild memory then any wound up dead?
Yeah, I remember that
vaguely Chris Kyle. Of course, American Sniper. We know him.
Got no props, even though he was a prominent seal. Yep, yep, he
just died. Marco McMillan, Mississippi's first gay mayoral
candidate 34 beaten and burned body dumped out in the
riverbank. Stephanie Moses, NYPD Sergeant photograph with Obama
at 911 ceremony found dead and apparent suicide. And that's all
this is a pretty good documentary. I mean, the list
goes on and on and on and on and on. And of course, there's you
know, all the other all the gay guys in Chicago who got killed.
There's the gay kid who was working for the Obama campaign
and Chicago headquarters who dropped out of everyone's a
heart attack with those around here. Everybody's a fucking
heart attack. So it's a pretty good list.
Yeah, that's a damn good list.
And and I liked this list, because it has a lot of links to
the original stories. Now your Clinton body count? I mean, that
lists I mean, that's they've categorized by numbers and bed.
Yeah, no, they're almost like it's like the Library of
Congress. Workouts as much
it's as much information as the Library of Congress. Yeah, so
maybe, if you're just if you if you're well known, maybe just
know when people die around you. It's just no. But I don't know
that many people who've died of horrible deaths this around, but
I know a lot of people.
Yeah, they over the ledge just over a couple of years. This is
not like a lifetime of people dropping
dead Lifetime Achievement Award.
And yeah, I know, people that have died to that or, you know,
here and there. But it's not more than a few dozen people.
Yeah. And it's not like, you know, burning up in your garage.
Yeah. And they're all just yeah, they're dead. They died in their
sleep or something. They weren't roaming around. Yeah. They're in
the hospital. They had cancer. Yeah. You know, Steve Jobs took
forever to die. And it's not like these guys just dropped
dead.
Oh, by the way, take a look at the list. And you're telling me
how many of these people died of cancer? None.
Right, which is very suspicious. And was everyone I know is
either it most of them actually have died from cancer.
So on Tuesday, it will be a very, very big day. And I'll be
paying a lot of attention working very, very hard and
everybody's behalf so you don't have to. And that means mainly
there'll be documents to read lots of documents, and I can
already tell you what it's going to be. We will be shutting down
the coal plants with new regulation or rules or law of
rule or whatever it is. And the President has done a little
promo video which he has on the whitehouse.gov and
America would respond to the growing threat of climate change
for the sake of our children, and future generations. This
Tuesday at Georgetown University, I'll lay out my
vision for where I believe we need to go. A national plan to
reduce carbon pollution prepare our country for the impacts of
climate change, and lead global efforts to fight. This is a
serious challenge, but it's one uniquely suited to America's
strengths.
I want to say something about this video. The music track is
very loud. And it's an I sound tried to sound hounded and it
sounds like it sounds like a Jay Z track who stole it from
Prince. Timmy Dude, it sounds like diamonds and pearls are
what it sounds like dead Ed. But it's it has kind of that Jay Z
vibe to it kind of like in New York. But why does he have to
have this whole stylize thing in the music and and of course
again, we're seeing waves crashing up against the Jersey
Shore and who didn't put polar bears in this time. But so
Tuesday Tuesday don't miss it Tuesday, scientists design new
fuels, farmers to grow. will need engineers will design new
fuels and tell you how farmers can grow them. Nice generis
to devise new sources of energy and businesses to make and sell
them will need workers to build the farm foundation for a clean
energy economy. I will need all of our citizens to do our part
to preserve God's creation for future generations of forests
and waterways, or crop lands and snow capped peaks. There is no
single step that can reverse the effects of climate change. But
when it comes to the world, we leave our children. We owe it to
them to do what we can. So I hope you'll share this message
with your friends. Because this is a challenge that affects
everyone. And we all have a stake in solving it together. I
hope to see you Tuesday. Thanks. Kami, me diamonds and
that's kind of a creepy, weird music stinks. By the way. Did
you ever notice that the you know, the Brits have a
complimentary operation? Of course, this is how they
exchange data. They spy on us and we spy on them. Your stuff
and you give us stuff?
Yeah, they've got GQ or whatever.
GCHQ Have you ever looked at their building and tell me what
it reminds you?
It reminds me either a Mercedes logo, not kind of like a CEO
when
we're building?
Yeah, the new one. You mean? Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. What do
they have? Like kind of some weird star configuration over
three points?
is a three point deal on there. Yeah. 3.63 point deals. A hell
of a building.
It's a nice design.
Yeah, except if you're on one end, you have to get to the
other. Like there's a bunch I guess you can cut through. Did
huge building
cut through
it? What are you doing? I'm cutting through the courtyard
through air.
have two things to wind up with. I got I got the Minister of the
UK GMO nation, East Minister of Agriculture or something. And
you know that the European Union is against genetically modified
crops. They say they are but there's all kinds of evidence
that they're not. Yeah,
this would be one of them. So they've got a field where
they're testing some stuff. And there's a whole report and I've
just got a little clip of it because I thought that was kind
of funny. The guy's clearly trying to sway our opinion of
genetically modified foods and crops
are controlled. The Environment Secretary wants to rehabilitate
GM technology. It'll help to feed the world's billions he
says and put the UK at the forefront of an agricultural and
economic revolution in very large parts of the world. This
isn't some strange spooky innovation, being led by funny
professors with spiky hair and flapping codes. This is an
absolute standard part of everyday life.
No, I think it is done by very funny. Okay. And I want to say
hello to our friends in Australia, who a lot of them
listen, a lot of them support the show. A lot of them have
said thank you so much for recognizing that we really we
actually kind of really do hate it when you talk about Australia
and you do a stupid lame ass Australian accent. I think I got
confirmation that they that is quite annoying to them, so I'm
not going to do it. I will have replay this bit, which is a
piece of news which is all about the the pedo Bear Down Under
Well, New
South Wales Police had admitted it shredding all documents of
the forces involvement with a key Catholic Church bodies set
up to deal with sex abuse cases. The sex Crime Squad officer on
the church body destroyed all her documents after each
meeting. The top level group established by the church's
bishops met monthly with a senior police woman for at least
three hours over many years after being contacted by
Nightline. The New South Wales, Police Minister Mike Gallagher
has now demanded an urgent briefing from his police
commissioner and the former Director of Public Prosecutions
in New South Wales has described the police actions as destroying
evidence yeah yeah, thank
you public person does that and next thing you know they're in
the into the slammer. Yeah.
So let me see you say had a meeting and like oh, man, Oh,
damn. We got like we got some problems here. We got these
bishops and like, you know, the sodomized and kids and good
meeting All right, everybody. All right. Who's shredding
today? Good meeting.
Well, I have one last clip from the
Can you bring us out? Can you lift us up? Can you lift our
Yeah, yeah.
This will do it uplifting and make it but I've closed the
show. It has always been uplifting and this will be one
of them. This is the this is the again to caucus. They were
talking to the the helpers of the congressman. And this is
from the ACLU woman and you know she's ACLU is always uplifting.
This is the American Civil Liberties. union? Yes, that's
a group of lawyers that Sue's everybody, every time anybody's
liberties are violated no matter who they are. Right. And this is
the clip called good one from the ACLU.
So far, Congress has allowed the intelligence committees to do
secret oversight of secret programs allowed under secret
court orders, and it has led to the collection of every
American's phone calls. This cannot continue. We need to pull
this information out into the public sphere so the rank and
file members can understand what they've authorized so the public
can understand how the government spies on them, and
people can make an informed decision about whether these
programs should continue. But secret oversight is not working.
And from the information that's been leaked over the last couple
of weeks it's pretty clear that some of this information has
unnecessarily been kept secret and that your bosses with your
advice need to make some very strong decisions here about
what's appropriate.
Yeah, sounds like there's a lot of things secret things going
on. secret secret I thought this was the most transparent
administration in the history I thought history of the universe
My goodness alright everybody that's gonna have to do it. We
need to move on with things got to produce this show. I dare I
asked if you're going to go up north today John. Are you going
up north?
No, no, no, I've got got some some
you got some stuff to do? It looks like there will be a no
agenda producer update on the stream. So all of y'all y'all
have y'all can stay tuned for that. That's funny. Actually. I
got an email from the White House. Did you get the email
from the White House?
I get a lot of emails from the White House you might as well
read yours Well,
it was just funny the way it opened this is from some was
what $5 For some reason so this is this is about the nonpartisan
experts who estimate the financial it is about the
immigration bill but it starts off with hi all am like oh my
god pile. Yes. That's what it is. Hi. Oh,
hi. Oh, hi, Ohio. Hi, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio. No jack
this exactly what it is. You
can't believe she actually said hi all I mean, wow. How well hi
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