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It's going to create a nuclear
winter. Adam curry, John C.

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Dvorak.

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Sunday, April 28 2013. Time for
your gizmo nation media

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assassination episode 508.

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This is no

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agenda, calling CQ

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dx for all stations worldwide
from the Travis heights hideout.

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In the capital of the drone Star
State Austin take house in the

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
73. I'm John C. Dvorak. Hill.

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Spoken like a true ham who
doesn't do anything about it? He

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has no idea what he's talking
about.

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That's right. I don't know. 7373

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you might say that at the end of
the show, saying at the

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beginning as a little little
lame. Dude, dude, dude, we

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missed an opportunity. Dude. We
must we must remember to do this

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properly next year. It because I
think it's like the third year

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in a row and probably saying
this whenever they have the

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White House Correspondents
Dinner in Washington DC also

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known as what it was like
hashtag nerd Tromm douche fest

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douche Palooza fest as a hashtag
for

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now, but somehow they thought it
was C span thought it was cool

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to call it nerd prom. This is
not nerd prom douche palooza.

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Yeah, but

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let's face it. That's that that
was sent down obviously by the

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group. They started to do that.
Because that was the punch line

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to that good lame video that
yes, the operation put together.

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Wait a minute. Which video is
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Do you mean they're spacey
video? I didn't see

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this. Kevin's what? Did I miss
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I missed a long introduction
video and Ed Henry the head of

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the organization that puts on
this thing. And he played a the

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guys not funny. By the way. He's
a fox guy. I think Fox people

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generally have no sense of humor

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in it. Let's just explain to
people who do not live. In fact,

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most people have no idea we're
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who the heck knows about this?
So every year, the White House

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Correspondents that would be the
the people who sit in the White

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House and ask questions or
basically received the script

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and then read it on their on
their cable channels, airwaves.

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They have a dinner. And this
dinner is has progressed over

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the decades into a total douche
fest. But of course it kind of I

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don't know I don't have a
problem with it makes a lot of

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sense. Because you can only get
a table if you're a news

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organization.

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But then you're allowed to buy
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per per seat, right? Not

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per table, per table. Oh, no, I
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They explained you'd miss this
to the guy went through a long,

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detailed menu, the prices and oh
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missed all of this. This

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is annoying. You told me you
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I

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was watching it for two hours.
And that was the red carpet

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which there was no Ryan
Seacrest. This is the mistake.

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No, but they had Claire Danes,
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apparently cannot walk in high
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No, but I'm talking about. I'm
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anyway, so So you you've $2,500
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think is cheap. The Rock and
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table for 10 seats.

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Yeah, this is very cheap. But
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a table. It's it's exclusive in
that regard. Right?

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Exactly. So you have to you have
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then you can invite whoever you
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this has gotten a little more
crazy over the years, although I

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don't think so because, you
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who are invited, they are the
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news industry. So to me, it
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invite these people. I mean, I
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that at all. But this has now
become controversial. And, but

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so, so. Okay, good jigs keep
explaining that because I have a

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couple of couple of things I
want to ask. Okay.

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All right. And then I have I
have one, one clip. So But

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typically, this is kind of like
a roast, if you will also a very

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traditional American kind of
thing, where the the President

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will make fun of the either a
little bit of himself a little

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bit of the relationship between
him and the press. But then

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also, you know, just about
whatever whatever's going on at

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at the at the moment current
events. You know, we've had

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President Obama say some pretty
interesting things in the past.

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This is one of my favorites. I
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words for you. Predator drones,

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which of course, you know, it's
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I feel though, you know, the
truth is often spoken and they

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bring it in I agree. And they
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celebrated comedian to, you
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basically, it's just who has is
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President and in this case,
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the jokes, President I will say,
very relaxed. I felt he did a

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good job. You know, it wasn't
like, they weren't like knee

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slappers, you know, it was like,
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okay. Then it was appropriate.
And you know how we toned it

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down because of the tragedy. But
of course, it really is a whole,

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you know, shut up and let them
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here. And then nothing is more
funny to me when you see

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celebrate ease and new celebrate
ease on the red carpet. And

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they're waiting in line to walk
the red carpet and you see how

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you see how the women are
turning and posing and what that

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needs. John, what that needs is
you and I are idiots, it needs

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you and I you know doing a
voiceover and talking about

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them. I mean, can't you just see
how that would be perfect. It'd

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be great. And we can miss Mickey
for color when we don't remember

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who you know who we don't know
who someone is Bible and

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know who half of them are.
Because no, no, I think we would

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look you up you would know more
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think no, I think I mean, it
took me 10 minutes to figure out

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that her name was Kathleen
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one? Right. You know what I
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simple? Shepard? No, it's like,
but, but I think we could

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totally do it. You know, we
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a we have a crowd thing.

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So what we needed what we
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we should actually do this. We
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watching? No, I think it's just
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I think that what we can do next
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internet. So anyone can listen,
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the simulcast. You could be
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our voiceover. You know, could
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Stephanopoulos, you know, you
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how tiny he is away and Conan
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you know, it's like, yeah, it
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So I'm not convincing you
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also had a little photo shoot
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backdrops. It was a backdrop but
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CBS that brought in Claire
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was her who was there? It seemed
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Oh, it was Bob Schieffer. Yeah,
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wow. This guy talking about
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see him? Did you see that shit
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when he came in at a huge shit

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eating grin. And he had clear
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the library. And all over the
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was, you know,

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well, let me this leads right
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the person who has made a stink
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last year and this year, you
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up. In fact, he is now the
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entertainment industrial complex
is Tom Brokaw. And time and Tom

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Brokaw says he actually gives a
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of this and how it changed into
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pinpoints when it changed. And
so you're feeling really good

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when you hear him talk about
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he's just as full of shit to the
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It's always a fun

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gathering. But work could be
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Washington sources who are
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chairman, both parties would be
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administration would be
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justices would come and the
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and we'd have a festive evening,
though a lot of kind of

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homegrown humor. Not always
bringing in and outside or very

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often they would get the very
clever people who worked in

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Washington and they would do
routines of some kind. And it

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was at the end of the evening.
IOI thought productive for both

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sides. For those who are public
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some kind of the press. We could
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bit and talk about things in a
more casual fashion. And then it

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began to evolve. It got larger.
I remember in 7475 I think it

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might have been 75 When the
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Live came down. And it was a big
hit with good reason. It was

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Chevy and John Belushi and Lorne
Michaels brought him in. And it

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was appropriate. They were doing
a lot of political stuff. And it

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kind of raised if you will, the
profile of the White House

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correspondents. then somewhere
along the law. It began to

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freewheel out of control. The
correspondent who brought fawn

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Hall Yeah,

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now fawn Hall was Oliver North
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Yeah, I think yeah, she was very
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of like, gorgeous Farrah Fawcett
hair, and but she somehow messed

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up the the Iran Contra thing a
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all of North Secretary I'm
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but it was a lot of the Iran
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of how she somehow deleted
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made a wrong entry. You know, he
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course, it was perfect to having
a beautiful Secretary involved

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in some political scandal really

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took her to a different level.
Then it became more of a tabloid

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kind of dinner. And I watched
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way. I took Lee Iacocca one
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embarrassed by the end of the
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and a lot of people drinking way
too much. And a lot of, can I

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have my picture taken with you?
Can I get your autograph to cozy

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by half. So I just didn't go
anymore. But I would watch on C

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span. And as I watched on C
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kind of, if you will, in the
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in Kansas City, or Little Rock,
or in Spokane, Washington,

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which by the way, the way he
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itself, like oh, you stupid hex.
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bit here. I was watching this.
I'd say these guys are douchebag

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exactly thing.

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That's the Washington press
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dignity at my daughter's junior
prom. True than there is what

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I'm seeing as the span here.
True. Then we got to that point

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where everyone had to bring in
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happy to be around. And for me,
the breaking point was was the

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loan. She became a big star at
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Give me a break.

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So you know, I'm like him broke
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this. But then at the end,
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he ruins everything and it just
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douchebag as all of them

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are was the low on someone who
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hand, my friend Bob Schieffer
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him sitting with Claire Danes
and saying, Sorry, broke. I'm

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not giving this up. I get that.
Oh, Claire Danes is not someone

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I'm talking about. She's a big
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to come. In Hollywood. That's
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down market and

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you're an asshole broke jaw. And
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Lindsay Lohan her clara de she's

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a big deal, John. She's a big
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he's a serious guy in Hollywood.
Yeah, but here's the question.

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What do you think?

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Said he'd do it again.

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But you're not hearing this?

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I heard it. I couldn't
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Drunk or not drunk? not drunk.
not drunk. That's just the way

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he talks. I've met him I was
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was like a what a what a what a
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that. Oh, Claire day and she's a
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up. It's bad.

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He blew it with that. Yeah.

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Big time.

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Yeah, Lindsay Lohan. I don't
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just the he is the hick from
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that Lindsay Lohan. But that
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looking good looking mighty
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that big Hooters from that
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shows? She's good. She's

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point. It has proved it really,
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but this is so that's exactly
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the news and entertainment
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all about the Celebrate ease.
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other day on CNN talking about
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just get more celebrities in
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it you didn't you didn't know it
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was Donnie. This is what I'm
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It's ludicrous. But this anyway
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it was it was for one thing is
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they read off the menu didn't
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Everybody who was all the
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mucks were there I saw Kramer
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over here at MarketWatch. And
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editor here sitting next to him,
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huge waste of time for a major
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in Washington DC if they're not
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two things and I think he had
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first of all, did I not see
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Zucker as his date was not Jeff
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Jeff Zucker. I saw him I think
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that's a possibility. It was
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Katzenberg was with Spielberg.

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I was. Oh, yeah. And then they
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Daniel Day Lewis thing that was
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it with C span and Buzzfeed?
What is it with BuzzFeed in

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general? Yeah. So C span is
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buy a table. They've been
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own party. Well, let's do a
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where BuzzFeed is doing that.
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BuzzFeed. What is this? BuzzFeed
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Oh, well, that is the spin off
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I thought it was it's the spin
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it? No, no. Isn't the co founder
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Didn't he said he's the co
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think you're wrong, John. Now I
don't think I'm wrong. Yeah, I

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do think you're wrong.

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Look, the guy's name up and
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okay, but what's the guy's name?

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I gotta look it up.

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But you know, you look at
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the homepage of BuzzFeed. 17
acapella covers of indie rock

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songs. Can you get through this
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Celebrity fashion at the White
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mean, who gives a crap about
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Okay, here we go. I get it now.
All right, you're right. And I'm

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a rare occurrence.

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You're born right.

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co founded in 2006 by Jonah
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of The Huffington Post, but it's
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Ben Smith was the guy who
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and he's the run he runs it.
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Okay. But this is like heavily

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a little party of you know,
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cares? Let's

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see what jobs they have. Can we
get a job? There are job

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openings. Let me see what we
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huh?

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How else? How about means you
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business reporter we can be a
business reporter. Let's see.

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BuzzFeed is here, John, this is
for you. BuzzFeed is hiring a

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hungry aggressive, fast and
smart business reporters to help

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us build a new kind of business
vertical for the social web What

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do you do? Well, I'm building a
new business vertical for the

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social web. The successful
candidates will have knowledge

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and sources in one of the
following media and

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entertainment business Wall
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bracket banks m&a Private Equity
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the technology industry retail
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interest to a digitally native
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listen to this Listen Listen to
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even incorrect big brands of
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audiences okay great great no
this is what it says is how bad

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it is. Big brands of interest to
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another core industry beat as
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news works online oh how news
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candidate has the ability to
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filings macro economic data and
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into insightful and fun posts.
Readers will want to share this

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is a job for me yay guess what
everybody Apple stock down but

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that doesn't mean iPhone six
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queens my post it's gonna be

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its share it like like like

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responsibilities. Ooh,
responsibilities, pitch and

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write stories daily. Oh, man.
You mean I gotta work for this

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job. Wow, that's break news.
This is responsibility you must

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break news anymore. You break
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I broke a story I broke it I
just busted it up.

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Here we go develop sources. Oh,
here we go. have the capacity to

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pitch report and present stories
in non traditional ways.

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What does that even mean? Set
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appear on radio and TV as
necessary to promote the your

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and the team's work I swear to
god that's what it says. Let me

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read that again to you. This is
BuzzFeed there this is this is

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this the journalistic integrity
of their checking their own job

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postings appear on radio and TV
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and the team's work very good
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what a convoluted sentence

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requirements was not convoluted
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left it in they this is a copy
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somehow that because it
shouldn't be appear on radio and

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TV is necessary to promote your
and the team's work but it's the

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your requirements business
reporting experience. I got that

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I think I qualify comfort
dealing with financial data and

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high level executives, your
social media presence that John

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will your 50,000 followers your
way up Their 88 Be a team

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player. Oh, oh, I'm so sorry. No
haters, no haters, John. No

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haters. That's a requirement. He
believe that no haters, it says

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that this is no haters, yes.

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says no. No, no, you're just
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no haters.

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Wow. Yeah. Buzz these are boring
publications.

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BuzzFeed is the most important
publication online since the

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Huffington Post. And politico,
which is owned by the Washington

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Post, is it not isn't owned by
someone. Anyway,

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looking for something to hate.

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Don't be a hate. Now, you had
some questions about this for

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me.

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I believe. I forgot already.

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Okay, and we don't have any
clips.

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No, I was thinking you were
gonna get some clips. I couldn't

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really get any clips. There was
a couple of clips that I'll just

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tell you what they were that I
would have got. One is where

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Obama and I think this was
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Truth does come out during

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Oh, wait, let me guess where he
said. I'm no longer the

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strapping young Muslim socialist
that I was. No, no, because I

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thought that was like, okay,
that's true.

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Yeah, no, I agree. I agree. That
that was one of the

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possibilities, but no other one
was I would have not run if

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Shelly Adelson had given me $100
million. Yeah. And then he threw

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the threw it to, to the First
Lady and said, Michelle thought

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about it.

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No, it's as I thought about it.
No, Michelle throw. Right.

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Right. Right. That's what it
was. She's like laughing.

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He basically put a price.

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Yeah, he had a price price. 100
million bucks. Allison's spent

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more apparently spent more than
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the president Adelson. Shelley.
You basically said, you know,

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you wasted all your money last
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You could have just given it to
me and you've been done with me.

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And I'd be out of here and I'd
be a happy camper. Yep.

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Essentially what he said. Oh,
yeah, it was a joke. He was just

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kidding around. No, right. He
said he wasn't kidding around.

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He said he thought about and his
wife thought it. I believe it.

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I believe it.

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I totally believe there wouldn't
but there was no offer, of

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course, this aggravation, but
there was no offer. There was no

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offer. No, there wasn't I mean,
but he just he that's what he

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was. He was scolding Adelson for
not thinking clearly. And he

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saved some money got

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what you wanted. How come
there's never like a bomb at

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those events.

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You know, as they were milling
out, they had this nice camera

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at the end of showing all these
people coming on the show. I

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didn't know she was there. Oh,
look who it is. Yeah. And all

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these people were trying to
trying to weasel their way out.

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It was jammed. It was crowded.
It was not a big room.

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Did you see the dogs, the
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At a certain point like the
sniffer dog takes off after one

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of these women who's standing
outside. And it was just it was

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just like, you know, that whole
thing is bizarre, but it really

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it needs a curry DeVore at
commentary red carpet. Hi,

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George Stephanopoulos who you
wearing? I mean, that's really,

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really wearing that's really
what we're that's really what

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was missing.

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Yeah, who are you wearing is
where you're wearing? Yeah. Oh,

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hey,

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Newt Gingrich. By the way, any
new gainers will talk to

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anybody? Oh my God. He just did
like what? And he didn't want

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to. Okay, some point. Case in
point. Exactly. Wow. Hey, let's

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let's boogie right on through
and thank No, wait. Let me say

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in the morning to you John C.
Dvorak

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in the morning to you, Adam
curry in the morning. Do all the

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ships at sea out there and boots
on the ground and the feet in

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the air and the subs in the
water in the Knights and Dames

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out.

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That's right security X to all
of you and the chat room. No

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agenda stream.com no agenda
chat. dotnet Can you tell them

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getting excited about hamvention

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Oh, hamvention you're gonna go?
No, you're gonna have your

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device.

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I wish now I won't have it ready
this year? No, the ham van. It's

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It's on. It's May 17. It's like
two and a half weeks. I won't be

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ready. It's in Dayton, Ohio. I
wish I could go though and be

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kind of cool. It's funny when
you look at the at the website,

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it's like, you can rent
scooters, electric scooters.

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It's like really bad is a bad
image for the hands.

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A horrible image isn't mean.

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I gotta get a scooter to go
around it. There's old Bob,

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this is literally what it is.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Let us thank our producers, as
you know, unlike the the

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douchebag fest that we saw on
television that we actually have

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produces for our show. Unlike C
span who just think they can get

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away with it and you know there
it goes it serves serve nobody

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just a couple of dudes like John
and I sitting there laughing at

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all the idiots but when it comes
to the no agenda show we have

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people who actually really
support us and not just with

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finances but also with
information that we have our

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sources they won't take payments
they wouldn't we don't have

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commercials running so that
we're compromised in any way

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shape No, no, but if Shelly
Allison want

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to analysis so you know, you
can't buy analysis we have to do

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it ourselves. You do

447
00:25:37,410 --> 00:25:40,140
you do if Shelly Adelson would
pay us 100 million though.

448
00:25:40,529 --> 00:25:41,639
Do we be done? Yeah.

449
00:25:42,299 --> 00:25:45,899
We've been Hey, boy. Wasn't
Lindsay Lohan awesome. Claire

450
00:25:45,899 --> 00:25:49,199
Danes rocks. We'll be right on
board in a heartbeat.

451
00:25:49,740 --> 00:25:52,230
John Harrison from Pinehurst,
North Carolina will be our

452
00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:58,290
executive producer for show 508
And he's in Pinehurst North

453
00:25:58,290 --> 00:26:02,160
Carolina request. A MILF shout
out the grown up version, not

454
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,420
the child who creeps me out a
little me too. And a shot of

455
00:26:06,420 --> 00:26:10,140
karma is creepy. It's like a
little vote. Yeah, it's creepy.

456
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:13,470
And a shot at karma from my
lovely wife, Sherry, keep up the

457
00:26:13,470 --> 00:26:15,840
great work. And he should have.

458
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:17,580
He's on the list. It's on

459
00:26:17,580 --> 00:26:20,130
the list. It gets a night
knighting. And that's right.

460
00:26:21,210 --> 00:26:26,430
That's one mother. You've got
karma.

461
00:26:29,670 --> 00:26:33,000
If I can just talk to the engine
room for a minute, if we could

462
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,740
turn on the air conditioning
that would be helpful. Thank

463
00:26:34,740 --> 00:26:34,920
you.

464
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:45,270
Loving Heinrich Yeager Heinrich
Gager I guess in Fort Walton,

465
00:26:45,270 --> 00:26:50,670
Florida for 508 Benebone are now
a donor I've took a about time I

466
00:26:50,670 --> 00:26:52,830
took a moment to give back for
all the value for value that

467
00:26:52,830 --> 00:26:55,140
I've gotten. I want to call out
Jeff who I work with as a

468
00:26:55,140 --> 00:27:01,380
douchebag. Having listened for
years and never donating even

469
00:27:01,380 --> 00:27:03,930
though he is the one who hit me
in the mouth, I have been

470
00:27:03,930 --> 00:27:07,050
listening since show 320
Something I've lost track now.

471
00:27:07,050 --> 00:27:09,750
But I've listened to every
single show here and there while

472
00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:12,960
I drive or while I'm at work. My
main love for the show is that

473
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,480
when listening, I know that
there's someone else out there

474
00:27:15,570 --> 00:27:18,330
who sees behind the curtain,
that there are others who see

475
00:27:18,330 --> 00:27:22,440
the state that our world is in
and where it's going and do not

476
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,410
approve. I've always felt
outside of my peers. I could

477
00:27:25,410 --> 00:27:28,830
never understand why they
accepted the bullcrap that they

478
00:27:28,830 --> 00:27:32,790
were fed, or why they bought,
bought into the marketing and

479
00:27:32,790 --> 00:27:36,600
the lies that were constantly
shoved in their faces. But

480
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:40,980
definitely been exposed to a
much wider spider web of lies

481
00:27:40,980 --> 00:27:44,160
and bullcrap. Since I began
listening, and I'm still in the

482
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,230
fence, whether or not I'm better
off

483
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:50,730
for it. So this he sent a very
long email and I asked the

484
00:27:50,730 --> 00:27:53,280
buzzkill Jr, to put it in the
spreadsheet, which he did. And I

485
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,740
just like to skip ahead to the
part that I thought was very

486
00:27:55,740 --> 00:27:58,230
funny. And he's a very
knowledgeable guy, and I can

487
00:27:58,230 --> 00:28:01,350
tell you where he works. But he
has a lot of information. He

488
00:28:01,350 --> 00:28:05,040
knows that we're right on about
a lot of things. And here's what

489
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,690
he said, which I found
interesting. I've been wanting

490
00:28:06,690 --> 00:28:10,200
to donate for a long time now at
least 100 episodes however,

491
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,680
something that you've always
said Adam, of course, always

492
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,670
stood in my way. On numerous
occasions you have stated

493
00:28:17,670 --> 00:28:20,880
something to the effect of it
always sounds good and like they

494
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,970
know what they're talking about
until they get to a subject that

495
00:28:23,970 --> 00:28:27,480
you the listener actually know
something about, then their

496
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,120
blatant ignorance makes you
question everything else that

497
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:33,510
they have just said.
Unfortunately, there are a

498
00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:37,620
couple of occasions when you
have fallen into that trap. And

499
00:28:37,620 --> 00:28:42,510
as always right when I am nearly
on the verge of donating notable

500
00:28:42,510 --> 00:28:46,380
instances. What do you think is
his example that I don't know

501
00:28:46,380 --> 00:28:47,910
that I'm not knowledgeable
about?

502
00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:52,410
The cold fusion?

503
00:28:52,620 --> 00:28:54,900
Oh, that would be incorrect.

504
00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:03,630
Let me guess. Let me guess. How
NASCAR works its restarts

505
00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:06,030
Sorry, sorry, you're not even
close.

506
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:14,220
Let's see. More. Okay. Baseball
stats. Oh,

507
00:29:14,220 --> 00:29:17,190
I'm so sorry, John. That is
incorrect. No. The topic of

508
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:22,620
furries. Apparently I am very
anovulatory stories. And the

509
00:29:22,620 --> 00:29:24,720
people who dress up furry and I
know

510
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,080
furries. In fact, I have a whole
when I went to the graduation

511
00:29:28,110 --> 00:29:28,920
This is John

512
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,760
C. Dvorak who is now speaking
and He is presumably very

513
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,350
knowledgeable about the Furies.

514
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,900
Well, my knowledge stems from
buzzkill Jr, who graduated from

515
00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:43,530
Evergreen where people could die
at Evergreen when they have

516
00:29:43,530 --> 00:29:45,690
which is one of the more famous
colleges in the country for

517
00:29:45,690 --> 00:29:49,650
being wacky. So you go to the
graduation people can dress up

518
00:29:49,650 --> 00:29:52,140
anywhere they want some put a
cap and gown on somewhere

519
00:29:52,140 --> 00:29:54,900
stripper outfit some of the
girls some

520
00:29:55,860 --> 00:29:59,130
what school is this? I mean,
right this evergreen there's a

521
00:29:59,130 --> 00:29:59,580
couple of

522
00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:04,800
the girls Like, wow. So anyway,
and and there are a number of

523
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,920
furries that attend the school
and they dress up as their

524
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,800
character. And they take their
graduation they grabbed their

525
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:16,080
diploma dressed up as a squirrel
or a rabbit, or whatever. And so

526
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,270
I was asking, I was taking
pictures because I had my

527
00:30:18,270 --> 00:30:21,390
camera's just shooting shots all
over the place. And I thought

528
00:30:21,390 --> 00:30:23,850
that these guys were just kind
of funny. I didn't realize that

529
00:30:23,850 --> 00:30:26,220
they were sick. This was some
sort of a sexual.

530
00:30:27,060 --> 00:30:29,490
See, this is what I said. And
apparently I was wrong. And I

531
00:30:29,490 --> 00:30:33,090
think our executive producer
here behind me, you know,

532
00:30:33,390 --> 00:30:36,690
unfortunately, Heinrich, you
didn't send me like the correct

533
00:30:36,690 --> 00:30:37,920
information so I can

534
00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:40,680
I believe you weren't wrong.

535
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:44,400
I believe our producer here is a
furry and I'd like to know more

536
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,910
about what's going on. I would
love to hear for In fact, I

537
00:30:47,910 --> 00:30:49,830
would love to interview him as a
furry.

538
00:30:51,210 --> 00:30:54,480
If you have, well, they would
love to be interviewed, I'm sure

539
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,440
and generally speaking, if
they're like the, whatever they

540
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,800
furry, whatever furry they are,
indicate some of their sexual

541
00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:05,850
relation. This was always my
understanding. But

542
00:31:05,850 --> 00:31:08,280
yes, and so if you're a rabbit,
you'd like to screw a lot,

543
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,920
especially with the girls and
you know, so there'll be wrapped

544
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:13,800
dread rabbits and squirrels and
they and they usually have sex

545
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:14,820
in the outfit.

546
00:31:14,850 --> 00:31:17,670
This is my understanding as
well. But apparently,

547
00:31:17,670 --> 00:31:18,240
apparently,

548
00:31:18,570 --> 00:31:24,000
I you hear let me get that can I
take a wild guess? You have a

549
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:29,880
son who's a furry. And you get
suspicious about his crazy

550
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,130
activities and the people he's
hanging out with and he gives

551
00:31:32,130 --> 00:31:35,730
you a cock and bull story about
what it's all about. It's just a

552
00:31:35,730 --> 00:31:40,560
club where we read books, and we
go down we dance at the ash

553
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,210
ganache and Berkeley, we
connect, and we jump around and

554
00:31:46,020 --> 00:31:49,740
my girlfriend, the rabbit sheep,
she likes to do the bunny hop.

555
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:53,160
That's your favorite dance. And
that's why she wears that outfit

556
00:31:53,490 --> 00:31:54,360
by Dad.

557
00:31:54,420 --> 00:31:58,230
Hey, Heinrich, thank you very
much. Although it's spelled H I

558
00:31:58,230 --> 00:32:01,890
E, which would be more Henrik.
Yeah, there's another thing I'm

559
00:32:01,890 --> 00:32:03,000
not knowledgeable about

560
00:32:03,030 --> 00:32:06,960
we have our last executive
producer will be very Hannah in

561
00:32:09,540 --> 00:32:12,900
apparently somebody gets a huge
kick out of me saying aka talks.

562
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:21,450
Elverta kind of like spasm in
BC. But it's aka topes aka talks

563
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,800
are going to Alberta 333 33.
Love the show. Keep up the great

564
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,310
work Barry Hanna. And finally we
have one Associate Executive

565
00:32:29,310 --> 00:32:35,640
Producer Rob Herbert harms in
Great Bend, Kansas $200 Checking

566
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,250
it with some value for value
just start at 1212 per month

567
00:32:38,250 --> 00:32:40,980
subscription and I encourage
everyone else to do the same.

568
00:32:41,490 --> 00:32:42,600
Love you guys.

569
00:32:43,050 --> 00:32:47,340
Thank you so much. Well, this is
appreciated because you know the

570
00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:51,150
Sunday shows are are slow. And
as you'll see from our donation

571
00:32:51,150 --> 00:32:54,480
segment no change today but good
to see a couple of executive

572
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,480
producers and one Associate
Executive Producer coming in and

573
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,980
of course, Heinrich so it is
it's funny because it says

574
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:07,590
Heinrich with an E i in the
spreadsheet but i e on his email

575
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:10,620
I'm thinking anyway,

576
00:33:10,620 --> 00:33:11,850
how would you pronounce it
differently?

577
00:33:12,180 --> 00:33:19,410
Well, Henrik, he named leash
Henry versus Heinrich. Anyway,

578
00:33:19,410 --> 00:33:23,940
he will also be the sole and
exclusive member of the 508

579
00:33:23,940 --> 00:33:28,440
Club, which is always nice. This
is episode 508 And you can find

580
00:33:28,770 --> 00:33:32,610
all of these credits and more
including the credit for our

581
00:33:32,610 --> 00:33:36,510
artists who will be chosen as we
go to the final production stage

582
00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:40,590
of the program and we thank
Thorin for coming in with that

583
00:33:40,590 --> 00:33:43,440
was funny on 507 What was it you
did I hit a funny one that we'd

584
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,920
like we had there was a lot of
good art that came in. Yeah, we

585
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:47,790
had a de

586
00:33:47,790 --> 00:33:48,300
luz

587
00:33:48,330 --> 00:33:54,120
somehow like I think this thing
gets claimed stickman tude I'm

588
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,300
getting in trouble here in
Austin for the rainstick Alyssa

589
00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:01,200
last night there was a a house
concert.

590
00:34:01,890 --> 00:34:04,320
Oh by the way before we go on
with that, I want to remind

591
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,900
people they can still help us
for the show that Thursday show

592
00:34:07,260 --> 00:34:12,150
dvorak.org/na channel
dvorak.com/na no agenda show.com

593
00:34:12,150 --> 00:34:15,900
and Dogen nation.com both have
donate buttons, please go to one

594
00:34:15,930 --> 00:34:16,860
or all of them.

595
00:34:17,310 --> 00:34:22,680
Okay, so he's in the chat room.
How do i pronounce it? Keys Can

596
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,430
you pronounce it in the in the
chat room? Trainwreck I think

597
00:34:26,430 --> 00:34:30,180
it's Henrik and not Heinrich.
Now it'll take 20 seconds to

598
00:34:30,180 --> 00:34:30,660
figure it out

599
00:34:30,660 --> 00:34:34,320
here we go.org/and

600
00:34:34,650 --> 00:34:36,990
Of course very important for
every single one of you whether

601
00:34:36,990 --> 00:34:39,990
you donate or not to go out and
propagate our formula formula is

602
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:43,680
this. We go out we hit people in
the mouth

603
00:34:56,969 --> 00:34:59,969
well done now Henrik is all
upset. He says you know he's

604
00:34:59,999 --> 00:35:04,049
He's specifically asked me. He
says in the email, you know, I'm

605
00:35:04,049 --> 00:35:06,749
sure you won't read parts on
this that will identify me. are

606
00:35:06,749 --> 00:35:09,389
we identifying him with his
furry thing? No.

607
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,000
If he has a son who's a furry?

608
00:35:13,740 --> 00:35:17,460
Well, I hope he's not angry. I
didn't I didn't. I didn't say my

609
00:35:17,490 --> 00:35:18,990
I didn't say where he works.

610
00:35:19,169 --> 00:35:23,819
And by the way, the rain stick I
believe now I've been working on

611
00:35:23,819 --> 00:35:27,869
technique. I think he had Oh,
no, no last Oh, no one's fall at

612
00:35:27,869 --> 00:35:28,979
the end. And it sounds like

613
00:35:29,009 --> 00:35:33,839
rock and I just say, I'm getting
in trouble here. So there was a

614
00:35:33,869 --> 00:35:39,299
house concert a benefit concert
yesterday. It was it was it was

615
00:35:39,329 --> 00:35:43,829
pretty cool. Actually. Who was
the guy who played the Jerry

616
00:35:43,829 --> 00:35:50,939
Lewis on? I walked the line. He
was like, Louis Yeah. As a young

617
00:35:50,939 --> 00:35:55,409
Jerry Lewis was I walked the
line on Walk the Line. What was

618
00:35:55,409 --> 00:35:59,519
the Johnny Cash be? cast his
name. I

619
00:35:59,580 --> 00:36:01,620
remember there being a Jerry
Lewis in there. Oh, yeah.

620
00:36:01,620 --> 00:36:05,940
No, he didn't know. Yeah. I
think was Wally. They go Waylon

621
00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:10,050
Payne. So he performed. It was
good. It was very it was

622
00:36:10,050 --> 00:36:16,980
interesting play Jerry Lewis.
No, but his mom was. Ah, Sammy,

623
00:36:16,980 --> 00:36:22,380
what's her name? Take the ribbon
from my hair. Remember that

624
00:36:22,410 --> 00:36:24,810
song? Just before my time me

625
00:36:24,810 --> 00:36:28,950
Smith, Sammy Smith. Very, very.
You know that song, don't you?

626
00:36:29,220 --> 00:36:33,360
Now. Oh, please. Do not take the
ribbon from my hair.

627
00:36:33,660 --> 00:36:37,140
Not really, really? Wow. Okay,
I've maybe heard it's

628
00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:42,390
not before your time. Anyway, so
that's her song he put he played

629
00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:46,590
that song was nice. But then
it's rained. It's Texas and

630
00:36:46,620 --> 00:36:50,400
outdoor concert is not good. And
everyone's like to him, You

631
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,090
curry.

632
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,220
So please, let's go easy on the
rainstick because it is our

633
00:36:59,220 --> 00:37:03,210
range that it works. I get
tweets now. And people saying it

634
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:06,420
we people saying curry we get
it. It works. Stop.

635
00:37:08,670 --> 00:37:11,910
It's bad. It's superstition.
Yeah.

636
00:37:13,890 --> 00:37:17,460
So I thought maybe it'd be fun
to show how a little script

637
00:37:17,460 --> 00:37:20,280
works where people who are just
checking into this program for

638
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:25,260
the first time. And you actually
send out like a personal email

639
00:37:25,260 --> 00:37:29,760
to everybody I saw yesterday,
about this, about how we could

640
00:37:30,990 --> 00:37:33,750
What exactly did you write it
was, there was about said

641
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:37,050
that we need some way of
defining the show because this

642
00:37:37,050 --> 00:37:41,970
is not I considered like a post
modern radio show. Yeah, but

643
00:37:41,970 --> 00:37:45,030
nobody knows what that means.
You say, Oh, it's postmodern

644
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:48,000
art, or it's postmodern comedy,
or it's postmarked. But nobody

645
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,820
really, you know, you can look
it up and read, I have a book

646
00:37:52,050 --> 00:37:56,940
just discusses this concept. And
it's like, oh, geez, I don't

647
00:37:56,940 --> 00:38:00,300
know what it means that I know
less after reading the book. But

648
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:05,700
it means it's kind of like new
and have in a weird way. And so

649
00:38:05,730 --> 00:38:09,150
but it's not a thing you can
sell. Yes, it's a bit right.

650
00:38:09,150 --> 00:38:10,800
Listen to the no agenda show.

651
00:38:10,860 --> 00:38:11,850
It's postmodern,

652
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:17,160
modernist. mean anything, we
need some way of saying, why

653
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:19,860
what's what's different about
the show, because the show is

654
00:38:19,860 --> 00:38:22,680
totally different than anything
else out there. I mean, there's

655
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,150
nobody that does, but also,

656
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,650
with the explanation of what it
is it has to enable people to

657
00:38:28,650 --> 00:38:33,120
see that you might need to give
it two or three goes before

658
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,170
you're really into it.

659
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:38,790
That's the problem I described.
And we've known this for since

660
00:38:38,820 --> 00:38:41,610
within a year when we first
really got the show formula,

661
00:38:42,060 --> 00:38:45,840
which was it takes people for
one thing the beginning puts

662
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,380
people off because it's a
mockery of of opening morning

663
00:38:49,380 --> 00:38:54,180
zoo type snorting zoo type
shows, and most of our noises

664
00:38:54,180 --> 00:38:59,430
and all the rest is a mockery of
the older way things were done,

665
00:38:59,430 --> 00:39:04,320
which is again, which is a
postmodern idea. And so we are a

666
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,530
meta show in some ways but the
other on the other end of it we

667
00:39:07,530 --> 00:39:11,490
do provide news analysis which
is nothing new people have been

668
00:39:11,490 --> 00:39:14,310
doing that forever, but they do
it in but they're they

669
00:39:14,340 --> 00:39:18,330
essentially encapsulated in
different forms. I mean, if you

670
00:39:18,330 --> 00:39:21,120
go back to the if stone
newsletter or sell this the

671
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:21,450
famous

672
00:39:21,839 --> 00:39:27,989
you when you say I have stone
99.99% of all citizens have no

673
00:39:27,989 --> 00:39:29,159
idea what you're talking about.
I

674
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,340
know but I'm only I say these
names. I have stone Enceladus as

675
00:39:32,340 --> 00:39:36,960
the other one SEL d s, in
because in a new in this era,

676
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,650
people can be listening. And
they can say, well, let me look

677
00:39:40,650 --> 00:39:42,240
him up on Wikipedia. So

678
00:39:42,270 --> 00:39:45,840
there's a couple of things. Now,
traditionally, if you if someone

679
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,470
could say, well, you know, they
won the Peabody Award. You know,

680
00:39:49,470 --> 00:39:52,650
that's, that's one way to get
people to listen, you know, if

681
00:39:52,650 --> 00:39:54,840
there was some prestigious
award, and I think you and I

682
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,020
pretty much realized that we're
never going to win an award for

683
00:39:58,020 --> 00:40:00,990
anything. We can't even get a
podcast award. Word. So there's

684
00:40:00,990 --> 00:40:01,560
very

685
00:40:01,590 --> 00:40:05,610
light and we're working with the
inventor or CO inventor or

686
00:40:05,610 --> 00:40:08,250
whatever you want of podcasts.
Yeah, no,

687
00:40:08,250 --> 00:40:11,190
this is not this does not work
for you. This is not good

688
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:14,640
enough. No, no, I have to. I
don't know what then what's

689
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,050
worse is like, there's no I have
this stigma clinging to me of

690
00:40:19,050 --> 00:40:21,420
the MTV guy and makes it even
worse.

691
00:40:22,050 --> 00:40:25,110
Still the MTV Oh, yeah, no,
that's the guy from MTV. Yeah.

692
00:40:25,620 --> 00:40:29,580
People say that to me. Oh, yeah.
I bring up the show. Yeah. Oh,

693
00:40:29,580 --> 00:40:31,860
yeah. You should be listed. I
always say Google no agenda,

694
00:40:31,860 --> 00:40:34,530
which I think is one of the ways
people can get least get a clue

695
00:40:34,530 --> 00:40:38,760
that is not a two bit operation.
Google no agenda. See what you

696
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,550
get. Were take over the whole
thing for the first five, six

697
00:40:41,550 --> 00:40:45,750
pages. And Is that still true?
Yeah. Yeah. Just, there's an

698
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:49,590
interloper in there, but it's
not worth discussing. Okay. And

699
00:40:49,620 --> 00:40:53,400
I say, Yeah, I do the show with
Adam curry. Adam curry the MTV

700
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,430
guy. How long this thing

701
00:40:56,430 --> 00:40:58,020
lasts forever until I'm dead.

702
00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:02,100
She knows it's never going to
last when were you on MTV? Last?

703
00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:02,640
What year?

704
00:41:02,670 --> 00:41:09,210
1993? Oh, that's pretty recent.
20 years ago, that's not recent.

705
00:41:09,210 --> 00:41:13,560
John. Reason. Mike. My kid was
two when I quit. Come on. It's

706
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,430
not recent. There's no reason.
So the other way, I think

707
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:20,670
there's another way and it's
just to say, Yeah, but that's

708
00:41:20,670 --> 00:41:23,370
not for you. I think it would
the reverse psychology is the

709
00:41:23,370 --> 00:41:26,880
onion. No, no, no, no, I you
know, that's okay. I don't I

710
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,730
don't think the no agenda show
is for you. It's, it's kind of

711
00:41:29,730 --> 00:41:34,290
an exclusive club. You familiar
with Mensa? Okay, that's not it.

712
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,570
You're not supposed to be in it.
Trust me. This is not good for

713
00:41:36,570 --> 00:41:38,790
you. Something like that, you
know,

714
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:45,240
that technique has its
followers. And I appreciate the

715
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:52,800
way it works. I personally, it's
not my style. But I personally,

716
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,870
it's not my style, because I
don't think I could actually

717
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:59,100
pull it off. Really as sales.
Well, how

718
00:41:59,100 --> 00:41:59,910
about this one then?

719
00:42:00,180 --> 00:42:03,360
So no, I think that I think this
was still valid in play. It's a

720
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,950
good idea. And it's partially
it's

721
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:08,670
in play. So we can also say, you
guys, did you see the matrix and

722
00:42:08,670 --> 00:42:12,270
say red pill, blue pill? And
then you say, Oh, so this is

723
00:42:12,270 --> 00:42:14,700
like a red pill. So now it's
like a kick in the groin. Just

724
00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:20,070
something? Yeah. Just to like,
get them off balance. Red Pill?

725
00:42:20,070 --> 00:42:22,560
Is it a real red pill show or
blue pill show? It's a kick in

726
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,790
your nuts is what it is? I don't
know. It's there were a couple

727
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:30,150
of people at the party
yesterday, I had, in fact, the

728
00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:34,560
exact same amount of people who
said, wow, so you worked with

729
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,680
Martha Quinn. I swear to God, I
swear to God, I guess

730
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,540
I don't even know who Martha
Quinn is.

731
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,920
And as people who say, Wow, I
really appreciate what you guys

732
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,810
are doing this, you know, at
least there's someone there

733
00:42:45,810 --> 00:42:49,680
who's you know, trying to, you
know, expose some truths and the

734
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:55,740
bullcrap. And, and the makeup,
it's hard, you know. So the one

735
00:42:55,740 --> 00:42:59,970
person was actually who said
this? Do you work with Martha

736
00:42:59,970 --> 00:43:05,790
Quinn, she comes from an
intelligence family in DC. And

737
00:43:05,790 --> 00:43:11,610
she's 48 I check these things.
And the guy who said, I really

738
00:43:11,610 --> 00:43:13,680
appreciate what you guys are
doing. And you know how you're

739
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,350
deconstructing the media and no
one is really doing anything

740
00:43:16,350 --> 00:43:22,470
that unique was a 35 year old,
gay garden designer. So you

741
00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:26,400
know, it's like, you can't pin
it on any type of person. Very

742
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:26,610
angry.

743
00:43:26,759 --> 00:43:28,889
garden designer. Yes. Yeah.

744
00:43:31,950 --> 00:43:36,480
What's the difference? Alright,
so so I'd like to, for the

745
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,870
people who are now now you're
sucked a night like, Okay, well,

746
00:43:39,870 --> 00:43:44,880
what is it? You guys do? So on
Thursday, we already kind of

747
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,700
showed no, it was actually
started on Sunday. And then we

748
00:43:47,700 --> 00:43:51,180
took it all the way to Thursday
that the administration was

749
00:43:51,180 --> 00:43:55,350
trying to play out a script with
this airplane apocalypse. In

750
00:43:55,350 --> 00:43:59,460
fact, we we named the last
episode airplane apocalypse and

751
00:43:59,460 --> 00:44:01,320
apparently they changed the name
a little bit they shouldn't have

752
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,720
called the airplane apocalypse.
It should have been airport

753
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:07,200
apocalypse. And then they went
to Arab airport Armageddon, so

754
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,550
they didn't even have the name
right. But the whole idea was to

755
00:44:12,420 --> 00:44:16,740
say all the Ryan Seacrest
stration has ruined air travel

756
00:44:16,740 --> 00:44:20,580
which it didn't there were some
delays because of weather. And I

757
00:44:20,580 --> 00:44:24,450
took a trip and it was they
chose wisely and you can go on

758
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:30,780
what's the what's the website?
The website is hold on where's

759
00:44:30,780 --> 00:44:38,040
my Ryan sequestration node here
it is the website is wow it's

760
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,120
like air air stats.net or
something crap I can't find

761
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,410
thought I thought it listed it.
Anyway. So first of all, the

762
00:44:46,410 --> 00:44:52,650
whole thing is kind of bogus
because the FAA is the FAA is

763
00:44:52,650 --> 00:44:58,260
funded by fees. Now this is this
is very clear in In fact, I got

764
00:44:58,260 --> 00:44:59,970
an email about it. Let me read
this to you

765
00:45:00,299 --> 00:45:03,209
Yeah, we brought this up. But
with that when the lawyer came

766
00:45:03,209 --> 00:45:05,969
in and talked about the fee
based services that the

767
00:45:05,969 --> 00:45:08,969
government provides, and how can
they be cutting back when it

768
00:45:08,969 --> 00:45:11,909
based on fees, and exactly TSA
was one of them.

769
00:45:11,969 --> 00:45:17,789
Yeah, so fuel based taxes and
seat taxes, fully fund the FAA.

770
00:45:18,209 --> 00:45:23,519
So it wasn't much of a big deal
to, you know, to patch things

771
00:45:23,519 --> 00:45:26,279
up, which by the way, it has not
been signed into law. So nothing

772
00:45:26,279 --> 00:45:29,729
has taken place. But all of a
sudden, everything has been has

773
00:45:29,729 --> 00:45:32,759
been saved. So but let me just
take you through the messaging.

774
00:45:32,759 --> 00:45:35,939
And it got lost because we had,
you know, Boston and, you know,

775
00:45:35,939 --> 00:45:39,059
it was last night, all kinds of
bullcrap. So it didn't work. But

776
00:45:39,059 --> 00:45:43,889
they did try it. And here is
this is a what's his name?

777
00:45:43,889 --> 00:45:48,629
Martin Bashir, I think is on
MSNBC. Listen to how he was

778
00:45:48,629 --> 00:45:53,759
yelling at. I don't know, if he
was yelling at a representative

779
00:45:53,759 --> 00:45:54,059
of

780
00:45:55,020 --> 00:45:57,690
howling at a Republican, he was
yelling at

781
00:45:57,690 --> 00:46:00,540
someone. But what he said was
quite bizarre.

782
00:46:00,660 --> 00:46:04,170
Ma'am, it's hardly surprising
that the American people would

783
00:46:04,170 --> 00:46:09,270
rather contract gonorrhea or the
Ebola virus rather than show any

784
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:13,650
respect for Congress, when it's
perfectly obvious that members

785
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,770
will only take action when it
affects them.

786
00:46:17,070 --> 00:46:20,640
So the whole setup was and by
the way, this just bizarre for

787
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:26,100
him to say that. So the whole
setup was to have gonorrhea.

788
00:46:27,210 --> 00:46:30,600
That's exactly right. That's
right. I think we missed

789
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,170
something in the report before
that. But the whole setup was

790
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:39,660
sequestration. Congress sucks.
But oh, they're standing in line

791
00:46:39,660 --> 00:46:42,720
now. It's affecting them. So
then all of a sudden, they can

792
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:45,300
pass on and of course, as
Republicans, then the

793
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:48,480
Republicans can pass something
really quick. That is That was

794
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:53,280
the script. And, and of course,
nothing happened. The ABC sent

795
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,550
who works for the White House,
ABC sent guys out and they were

796
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:59,100
like, well, it wasn't all that
bad, except for weather delays.

797
00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:01,170
And you know, you can check
yourself. There's just yeah,

798
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,660
there's sure there's delays in
the New York metro area. It

799
00:47:03,660 --> 00:47:05,490
happens from time to time but
it's not like

800
00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:09,330
always delay the New York
metrics here. It's not horrible.

801
00:47:09,690 --> 00:47:13,770
And and here's ABC touting the
end of the Armageddon, even

802
00:47:13,770 --> 00:47:15,750
though it never really took
place that other

803
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:19,560
big story what could be the end
of airport Armageddon,

804
00:47:19,590 --> 00:47:23,010
so it remember it was airplane
apocalypse, then it went to

805
00:47:23,010 --> 00:47:26,130
airplane Armageddon, and now
it's airport arm again, they got

806
00:47:26,130 --> 00:47:30,090
everything wrong about this and
all those delays. Now, I think

807
00:47:30,090 --> 00:47:33,870
the script writer was too busy
working on on the the

808
00:47:33,870 --> 00:47:36,690
correspondents dinner jokes.
Yeah. Let me finish this

809
00:47:36,690 --> 00:47:40,050
happening on Capitol Hill to cut
the furloughs of air traffic

810
00:47:40,050 --> 00:47:43,260
controllers that have caused
flight delays coast to coast.

811
00:47:43,260 --> 00:47:43,530
Josh,

812
00:47:43,530 --> 00:47:46,140
you know, we say Washington is
dysfunctional, but when members

813
00:47:46,140 --> 00:47:49,020
hear complaints, and it's going
to affect them, it's amazing how

814
00:47:49,020 --> 00:47:49,860
fast they can act.

815
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:55,140
Now, so of course, that's that's
the mean. Okay, so that's

816
00:47:55,140 --> 00:47:58,020
the mean. And now we've got to
wind it up. And I look, because

817
00:47:58,020 --> 00:48:02,730
this is a Senate Bill, s 853.
And then a version of that

818
00:48:03,150 --> 00:48:07,800
passed the House, which I have
not seen, but s 853. It

819
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,390
literally it is called the
Federal Aviation, I'm sorry, the

820
00:48:14,460 --> 00:48:18,960
reducing flight delays act of
2013. And all it says is you can

821
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,240
take that money you have there
and you can use it that's not

822
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:24,180
being used. That's your money
anyway, and you can use it for

823
00:48:24,180 --> 00:48:27,390
anything you want. I don't think
that it was illegal for them to

824
00:48:27,390 --> 00:48:32,460
do this anyway. But you know,
but it made the President gave

825
00:48:32,460 --> 00:48:35,610
him the ability to do this.
Kyle, everybody.

826
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:39,810
Hi, everybody. Our top priority
as a nation must be growing the

827
00:48:39,810 --> 00:48:40,350
economy.

828
00:48:40,590 --> 00:48:44,610
Okay, that's it's not he didn't
say it's his top priority, so I

829
00:48:44,610 --> 00:48:47,490
will not bust him off. But it's
close,

830
00:48:47,490 --> 00:48:49,710
creating good jobs and
rebuilding opportunity for the

831
00:48:49,710 --> 00:48:50,400
middle class.

832
00:48:53,340 --> 00:48:54,690
Mac and cheese. But two

833
00:48:54,690 --> 00:48:57,810
months ago, Congress allowed a
series of automatic budget cuts

834
00:48:57,810 --> 00:49:00,300
to fall across the federal
government that would do the

835
00:49:00,300 --> 00:49:03,690
opposite. In Washington speak,
these cuts were called the

836
00:49:03,690 --> 00:49:07,470
sequester. Oh, it was a bad idea
then. And as the country saw

837
00:49:07,470 --> 00:49:08,970
this week, it's a bad idea

838
00:49:08,970 --> 00:49:11,640
now and I think the curry
Devorah consulting group thinks

839
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,370
it was a bad name to start with.
You never should have called it

840
00:49:14,370 --> 00:49:17,070
sequestration because people
can't even pronounce it. That's

841
00:49:17,070 --> 00:49:19,920
why no one cares about his
failed failed initiative.

842
00:49:20,310 --> 00:49:23,040
Because of these reckless cuts
their parents whose kids just

843
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,410
got kicked out of Headstart
programs, who right now are

844
00:49:25,410 --> 00:49:26,670
scrambling for a solution.

845
00:49:26,820 --> 00:49:30,030
And by the way, this is this is
really motive. You know, there's

846
00:49:30,030 --> 00:49:33,090
like, oh, the kids are getting
kicked out of Headstart programs

847
00:49:33,090 --> 00:49:35,280
and everything's falling apart.
I just I'm not seeing it.

848
00:49:35,970 --> 00:49:38,730
They're seniors who depend on
programs like Meals on Wheels

849
00:49:39,330 --> 00:49:43,140
dependently, who are looking for
help their military communities,

850
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,260
families that have obviously
already sacrificed enough who

851
00:49:46,260 --> 00:49:50,430
are coping under new strains all
because of these cuts. This

852
00:49:50,430 --> 00:49:53,700
week, the sequester travelers
who are stuck for hours in

853
00:49:53,730 --> 00:49:56,340
airports and on planes and are
rightly frustrated by it.

854
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,450
I'm sorry, I just didn't see it.
That's not true. There was an

855
00:50:00,450 --> 00:50:05,010
ABC reporter who was caught for
hours and hours and even

856
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,210
admitted that it was mainly
weather delays. But this is not

857
00:50:09,210 --> 00:50:09,630
true.

858
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,110
And maybe because they fly home
each weekend, the members of

859
00:50:13,110 --> 00:50:16,770
Congress who insisted on these
cuts, we finally realized that

860
00:50:16,770 --> 00:50:20,340
they actually apply to them to
Republicans claim victory when

861
00:50:20,340 --> 00:50:23,580
the sequester first took effect.
And now they've decided, and

862
00:50:23,610 --> 00:50:28,230
I'm a little tired of the
Republican thing. It's okay. You

863
00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:32,040
can ever claimed victory. No.
And this bill, by the way,

864
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,160
claimed victory. This bill is a
Republicans don't want the

865
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,600
military cut. This claiming
victory. They want the military

866
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,720
guys, the Republicans don't want
them all things they don't want.

867
00:50:43,050 --> 00:50:48,780
This bill is a complete
bipartisan bill. It is. Here,

868
00:50:49,350 --> 00:50:53,880
Senate Commerce Committee
Chairman John J. Rockefeller on

869
00:50:53,880 --> 00:51:00,750
the fourth, who is a Democrat
John Thune Republican Susan

870
00:51:00,750 --> 00:51:04,770
Collins, Republican and Mark
Udall Democrat. So it's

871
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,570
completely bipartisan that it
was

872
00:51:06,570 --> 00:51:10,140
a bad idea all along. Well,
first, they should look at their

873
00:51:10,140 --> 00:51:13,170
own budget. If the cuts they
proposed were applied across the

874
00:51:13,170 --> 00:51:13,560
board.

875
00:51:13,590 --> 00:51:15,600
Okay, so now I would just want
to shuttle forward because he

876
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,270
says something really funny. How
are we doing John? How do you

877
00:51:18,270 --> 00:51:20,550
think the economy's doing How's
how's the how's the world doing

878
00:51:20,550 --> 00:51:24,240
in general? Well, how's America
has shadow stat, how's America

879
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:26,310
doing and you take a look, you
look that up and up play this

880
00:51:26,310 --> 00:51:27,030
piece causes

881
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:30,180
further damage. A couple of
weeks ago, I put forward a

882
00:51:30,180 --> 00:51:32,820
budget that replaces the next
several years of these dumb cuts

883
00:51:32,820 --> 00:51:33,750
with smarter cuts.

884
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:36,870
Like that

885
00:51:37,350 --> 00:51:40,650
performs our tax code to close
wasteful special if I missed it,

886
00:51:40,650 --> 00:51:43,620
but that was funny to lunch was
loopholes, and invest in things

887
00:51:43,620 --> 00:51:46,860
like education, research and
manufacturing that will create

888
00:51:46,860 --> 00:51:50,730
new jobs right now. So I hope
members of Congress will find

889
00:51:50,730 --> 00:51:53,730
the same sense of urgency and
bipartisan cooperation to help

890
00:51:53,730 --> 00:51:56,190
the families still in the
crosshairs of these cuts.

891
00:51:57,240 --> 00:52:00,030
Members of Congress may not feel
the pain felt by kids kicked off

892
00:52:00,030 --> 00:52:03,870
a headstart for the 750,000,
Americans projected to lose

893
00:52:03,870 --> 00:52:06,450
their jobs because of these
cuts, or the long term

894
00:52:06,450 --> 00:52:09,720
unemployed, who will be further
hurt by them. But that pain is

895
00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:13,980
real. The American people worked
too hard for too long rebuilding

896
00:52:14,010 --> 00:52:17,550
from one economic crisis, just
to see your elected officials

897
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:22,170
keep causing more. Our economy
is growing. And our deficits are

898
00:52:22,170 --> 00:52:24,750
shrinking. We're creating jobs
on a consistent

899
00:52:24,779 --> 00:52:28,979
basis. Okay. Can I just check
that with you, John? Is our

900
00:52:28,979 --> 00:52:29,939
economy growing?

901
00:52:30,420 --> 00:52:34,350
No. Depends if you live in
government stats, you might

902
00:52:34,350 --> 00:52:37,650
think it's growing and the stock
market's doing well, for various

903
00:52:37,650 --> 00:52:38,130
reasons. But

904
00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:44,010
is our economy growing? No.
Okay, our deficit shrinking?

905
00:52:44,670 --> 00:52:48,090
I don't have the deficit data.
But it seems unlikely. Are we

906
00:52:48,090 --> 00:52:51,150
creating jobs on a consistent
basis? Well, here's the jobs

907
00:52:51,150 --> 00:52:54,900
thing that's interesting has
been interesting, ever since the

908
00:52:54,930 --> 00:53:01,260
disparity took place, it looks
like probably mid 2009. That's

909
00:53:01,260 --> 00:53:04,890
when the government started
rejiggering things. And that's

910
00:53:04,890 --> 00:53:07,740
when shadow stats has an
interesting phenomenon that I've

911
00:53:07,740 --> 00:53:10,860
never seen before. And I
followed the site for years. And

912
00:53:10,860 --> 00:53:15,030
that is the end note, the U
three, unemployment started to

913
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:19,320
drop in the second or third
quarter and second quarter 2009.

914
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,950
It looks as and then you six
which is another government

915
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:25,200
number has started to drop. And
that's a kind of an old

916
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,100
calculation. And that was way up
to about 17% unemployment, which

917
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:31,620
is a number they don't release
anymore, but that's still

918
00:53:31,620 --> 00:53:37,410
calculated. And it was in is
closer to a true number 17%. And

919
00:53:37,410 --> 00:53:40,740
shadow stats number which is
created during the is the

920
00:53:40,770 --> 00:53:43,440
original way of determining
unemployment, which means if

921
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,780
you're gave up and you're about
to shoot yourself, and you're a

922
00:53:45,780 --> 00:53:49,920
bum on the street, you're
unemployed. The government

923
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,560
numbers say if you're a bum and
you can't get a job, and you're

924
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,810
gonna shoot yourself and you're
out on the street, you're not

925
00:53:54,810 --> 00:53:55,440
unemployed.

926
00:53:55,470 --> 00:53:58,320
Let me ask you a question. Do we
count as employed?

927
00:54:01,230 --> 00:54:02,160
I have no idea.

928
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,980
I don't think we do if you're
not if you're unemployed. If

929
00:54:04,980 --> 00:54:08,640
you're not under payroll, aren't
you just part of Ray masters? Do

930
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,520
you have other ways of getting
independent contractors?

931
00:54:12,300 --> 00:54:15,480
Whatever the case, the true
number of unemployment, let's

932
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,350
say we'll take the US six, which
is dropping below 15% down to

933
00:54:19,350 --> 00:54:23,670
about, let's say 14%
unemployment, the phony number

934
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:26,760
that the government releases
which is seven, seven and a half

935
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,630
percent right is bogus. Nobody
cares. The Shadow stats number

936
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:35,610
is going still going up and is
approaching 25%. That's

937
00:54:35,820 --> 00:54:38,610
yeah, that sounds more like it.
It's what it feels like now.

938
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,830
Well, not here. Austin is not
the same

939
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,610
as a jump in place because your
governor

940
00:54:45,090 --> 00:54:47,970
the moment that's right, that's
where everyone laughs at him the

941
00:54:47,970 --> 00:54:51,540
audios? MoPhO but I'll tell you
people seem pretty happy here.

942
00:54:51,540 --> 00:54:55,470
They have money to give away in
the rain. In the rain, I tell

943
00:54:55,470 --> 00:54:55,710
you.

944
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,670
So nobody wants to talk about
any of this. They just want to

945
00:54:59,670 --> 00:55:03,390
see Whether we're it's during
employments going down, it's not

946
00:55:03,390 --> 00:55:04,260
going down.

947
00:55:04,530 --> 00:55:07,860
But anyway, that is how the
script works. And it didn't

948
00:55:07,860 --> 00:55:11,730
work. It didn't it didn't get
any play, mainly because

949
00:55:11,940 --> 00:55:16,980
everyone was way too busy
getting their dress for the, for

950
00:55:16,980 --> 00:55:21,690
the correspondents dinner. But
also, I mean, everyone is still

951
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:26,430
on the street in Boston. If I
look. Well, Fareed Zakaria is

952
00:55:26,430 --> 00:55:29,700
back in the studio. And of
course, who was on this morning

953
00:55:29,730 --> 00:55:34,740
shirt off again shirt off while
he was on the candy show. But

954
00:55:34,740 --> 00:55:37,530
they got everyone's still on the
streets in Boston that haven't

955
00:55:37,530 --> 00:55:40,170
been back to the studio. This is
like they're still trying to

956
00:55:40,170 --> 00:55:44,220
milk this story for everything
it's worth. Meanwhile, we've got

957
00:55:44,250 --> 00:55:47,190
hundreds of people dying and
collapsing buildings around the

958
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:50,610
world. We got drone strikes
killing women and children. And

959
00:55:50,610 --> 00:55:54,660
we've got earthquakes, you know,
but that Oh, no, this is your

960
00:55:54,660 --> 00:56:00,210
number one story and it's
getting to the absurd. Although

961
00:56:00,210 --> 00:56:02,010
look, Paul, luckily, yes, go
ahead.

962
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,830
Let's but I do want to get get
us back up to speed. I have one

963
00:56:04,830 --> 00:56:08,700
of the latest rundowns because
ABC who is the spokes hold for

964
00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:12,900
the government. Yeah, they have
their latest version. Oh, this

965
00:56:12,930 --> 00:56:16,380
the thing that's interesting to
me about this story is that, and

966
00:56:16,380 --> 00:56:20,520
I think people should consider
this. If you watch police shows,

967
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,460
or if you listen to police, or
if you know police theory for

968
00:56:23,460 --> 00:56:25,950
read, or if you're a
criminologist, one of the things

969
00:56:25,950 --> 00:56:29,730
I always try to do with
criminals is to get separate

970
00:56:29,730 --> 00:56:33,510
everybody, and then get them to
tell the story. And then they

971
00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:36,720
can determine whether the story
is scripted, because they all

972
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:40,110
say the exact same thing, or
they contradict each other. And

973
00:56:40,110 --> 00:56:43,650
all these sorts of things. If we
turn this idea around and look

974
00:56:43,650 --> 00:56:49,800
at the police the same way. We
see contradictions, we see

975
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,310
scripts, we see all of it all
the indicators of criminal

976
00:56:53,310 --> 00:56:57,660
activity. And here's so they
keep changing the story. And

977
00:56:57,660 --> 00:56:59,400
here's the latest from ABC.

978
00:56:59,940 --> 00:57:02,340
Good morning, Robin. We're
getting stunning new details

979
00:57:02,340 --> 00:57:05,760
that just came in Tamar Lanzone
house mother said he called her

980
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,760
during the firefight with
police. He said quote, they've

981
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,120
started shooting at us. They're
chasing us, Mama, I love you.

982
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:15,900
Then the phone went dead. And
now you'll see in here how the

983
00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:20,820
intense standoff unfolded with
an explosive being detonated.

984
00:57:23,820 --> 00:57:27,240
These are the dramatic moments
heard on police scanners, when

985
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,300
Bordertown authorities had the
deadly confrontation with the

986
00:57:30,300 --> 00:57:35,700
most one admin in American
sources.

987
00:57:35,850 --> 00:57:43,560
Let me ask you a question. Why
are they did he mean to hit the

988
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,500
bullhorn but he hit the radio
instead?

989
00:57:47,610 --> 00:57:49,140
No idea seriously. I

990
00:57:49,140 --> 00:57:53,520
mean, he's, he's not just
talking to command. He's yelling

991
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:58,500
at the guy like get down. But
it's on the police scanner. This

992
00:57:58,500 --> 00:58:01,080
is very strange behavior. Any
sense.

993
00:58:01,740 --> 00:58:05,790
The suspects battled police with
at least five homemade bombs in

994
00:58:05,790 --> 00:58:08,940
the firefight. Three exploded
including the pressure cooker

995
00:58:08,940 --> 00:58:12,390
bomb like the ones used in the
assault on the Boston Marathon.

996
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:17,430
Wait a minute. So they're saying
that the pressure cooker bomb

997
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:19,290
exploded during this firefight.

998
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,030
Here's the better part. The cop
comes on. I think they have the

999
00:58:24,930 --> 00:58:28,140
discusses he says he thinks it
was a pressure cooker by women.

1000
00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:31,740
Let me get this straight.
Thanks. They don't know how to

1001
00:58:31,740 --> 00:58:36,300
gather evidence. So huge
explosion and that was the we

1002
00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:37,650
believe that was the pressure
cooker

1003
00:58:37,650 --> 00:58:39,120
bomb that went off how

1004
00:58:39,420 --> 00:58:43,860
pleased this this video of this
whole firefight there was no

1005
00:58:43,860 --> 00:58:47,070
huge explosion. And there were
some flash bangs.

1006
00:58:47,220 --> 00:58:50,970
The Watertown police chief told
ABC Martha Raddatz they brought

1007
00:58:50,970 --> 00:58:54,630
the fight to us. ABC News has
learned the older brother

1008
00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:57,810
Tamela. Manzanita allegedly
stood with the smoke swirling

1009
00:58:57,810 --> 00:59:04,020
around him refusing to retreat,
firing away at police were being

1010
00:59:04,020 --> 00:59:07,500
killed in the State Street in
custody.

1011
00:59:08,010 --> 00:59:10,830
And of course, the discrepancy
here is that there's lots of

1012
00:59:10,830 --> 00:59:14,250
eyewitnesses who are saying that
the police ran over him and then

1013
00:59:14,250 --> 00:59:17,730
shot him. And this huge
discrepancies in the story.

1014
00:59:18,030 --> 00:59:20,550
Turns out that the Russian
government was suspicious of

1015
00:59:20,550 --> 00:59:24,420
Tamela and back in 2011, though
he had been living in the US for

1016
00:59:24,420 --> 00:59:27,660
years. After coming here from
that country as a child with his

1017
00:59:27,660 --> 00:59:30,450
parents. Russian authorities
feared tampilan was going to

1018
00:59:30,450 --> 00:59:33,660
travel from the US back to
Russia to connect with Islamic

1019
00:59:33,660 --> 00:59:37,050
radicals. They had been fighting
for years. They asked the FBI to

1020
00:59:37,050 --> 00:59:40,620
investigate the FBI interview
tampilan who at that point

1021
00:59:40,620 --> 00:59:44,550
appear to be living the American
dream of just getting by a

1022
00:59:44,550 --> 00:59:48,360
gifted boxer who wanted to fight
for America in the Olympics. But

1023
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,450
after looking into his phone
records, websites he had visited

1024
00:59:51,690 --> 00:59:55,110
and associates the FBI found no
ties to terrorists.

1025
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,580
So what I'd like and I would
just really appreciate some

1026
00:59:59,580 --> 01:00:02,190
translate arrogancy in this
information could you please

1027
01:00:02,190 --> 01:00:05,520
just just show I mean, you're
giving it to the press. Can you

1028
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:06,480
please show us these

1029
01:00:07,260 --> 01:00:11,730
funnier stuff? Yeah. funnier
stuff. But there's a little bit

1030
01:00:11,730 --> 01:00:14,340
that comes up right after where
you cut it, which is perfect. He

1031
01:00:14,340 --> 01:00:19,950
stopped all right. I'll listen
carefully to the next pile of

1032
01:00:19,950 --> 01:00:21,360
crap they deliver

1033
01:00:21,989 --> 01:00:26,639
and Associates, the FBI found no
ties to terrorists. By law. FBI

1034
01:00:26,639 --> 01:00:30,419
officials said monitoring had to
stop boring, new negative

1035
01:00:30,449 --> 01:00:33,989
information. The FBI was no
longer watching. But after

1036
01:00:33,989 --> 01:00:37,439
tampilan returned from a six
month trip to Russia, our dark

1037
01:00:37,439 --> 01:00:40,979
side began to emerge. He was
charged in Cambridge with being

1038
01:00:40,979 --> 01:00:44,729
a former girlfriend started
uploading violent videos urging

1039
01:00:44,729 --> 01:00:48,209
jihad to his YouTube channel.
That's why they demonize as a

1040
01:00:48,209 --> 01:00:54,509
terrorist. Authorities never saw
this coming. Some investigators

1041
01:00:54,509 --> 01:00:57,269
believe Tom Ilan was the leader
and convinced his younger

1042
01:00:57,269 --> 01:00:59,249
brother to embrace jihad.

1043
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,040
I will point out that in those
YouTube videos where it's

1044
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,370
claimed that it's him, he's
wearing a Muslim Brotherhood t

1045
01:01:05,370 --> 01:01:08,100
shirt. I just want to point that
out. No one is mentioning that

1046
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:12,510
at all, that it's a Muslim
Brotherhood t shirt he has on I

1047
01:01:12,510 --> 01:01:14,640
got something even nuttier that
I picked up. So

1048
01:01:15,540 --> 01:01:18,750
I want to analyze this little
piece about the FBI. They have

1049
01:01:18,750 --> 01:01:22,800
to stop. Yeah, they had to stop.
Yeah. Well, they may have had to

1050
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:27,720
stop a wiretap. But they monitor
people for decades. Who are we

1051
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:28,320
kidding?

1052
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:34,860
Us? This is not true. Obviously.
Whoever was not true. Whoever

1053
01:01:34,860 --> 01:01:38,970
handed this report to Martha
Raddatz big star last night at

1054
01:01:38,970 --> 01:01:42,720
the event. Whoever handed that
to her. It's just it's bullcrap.

1055
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:48,330
It's made up here, CNN, this one
slipped in. I'm not sure who

1056
01:01:48,330 --> 01:01:49,950
approved this going on the air.

1057
01:01:49,980 --> 01:01:52,800
All of that as we are learning
more details about this

1058
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:58,110
investigation. In a shocking
revelation, sources now say Joe

1059
01:01:58,110 --> 01:02:01,230
heartstart. And I have had no
weapon when he was hiding in a

1060
01:02:01,230 --> 01:02:04,530
boat and a police officer
injured during the operation

1061
01:02:04,710 --> 01:02:09,630
appears an accidental victim of
friendly fire. Who approved

1062
01:02:09,630 --> 01:02:09,900
that?

1063
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:16,410
let that slip through? No, no. I
think we call friendly fire on

1064
01:02:16,410 --> 01:02:17,970
Yes. The shooting.

1065
01:02:18,030 --> 01:02:22,170
So no, but he's like a week ago.
Remember, he shot himself in the

1066
01:02:22,170 --> 01:02:28,020
throat and apparent suicide. But
he did that without a gun. So

1067
01:02:28,830 --> 01:02:33,540
okay, so Okay, so obviously,
there's tons of people, and tons

1068
01:02:33,540 --> 01:02:36,420
of, you know, all kinds of
theories and things going on

1069
01:02:36,420 --> 01:02:38,250
about who what, why, how

1070
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:42,210
it's made, by the way, maybe a
test of really just throwing out

1071
01:02:42,210 --> 01:02:46,560
all kinds of weird crap menacing
power comes back into the public

1072
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,250
domain, based on all these all
these want to be an analyst.

1073
01:02:50,430 --> 01:02:53,130
Well, one interesting thing that
came back that I found

1074
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:58,200
fascinating is this. You know,
the uncle who came out to these

1075
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:04,410
boys are losers, losers. So he
was married to a high ranking

1076
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:09,840
CIA officials daughter, Graham
Fuller, he was married to

1077
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:15,780
Samantha Fuller, up until I
think 2000 or something. And,

1078
01:03:16,140 --> 01:03:19,320
you know, and it's undeniable
that this fuller is, you know,

1079
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,790
is was is linked to Chechnya, to
operations there. And I think

1080
01:03:23,790 --> 01:03:27,960
it's pretty well known that the
United States where there's CIA

1081
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,990
or or just called the State
Department, you know, we love

1082
01:03:30,990 --> 01:03:34,680
that whole region, we've got
Georgia, the airport in Tbilisi

1083
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,400
is called the George W. Bush
airport, you know, or it's on

1084
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,880
George W. Bush Boulevard. It's,
it's obvious. You know, we

1085
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:42,930
love photos.

1086
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:47,100
We love this region, we own it.
And that's for commerce. It's

1087
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:49,620
for the pipelines coming over
the caucuses. It's, you know,

1088
01:03:49,620 --> 01:03:52,890
it's surrounding Russia within a
little bit there. You'll

1089
01:03:52,890 --> 01:03:58,230
remember when it was literally
Georgia, our consultants, US

1090
01:03:58,230 --> 01:04:01,290
consultants who started the
aggression against the Russians.

1091
01:04:01,590 --> 01:04:04,110
It's not in the history books
that way, unless you really go

1092
01:04:04,110 --> 01:04:06,570
and read and there's admission
that that's what happened,

1093
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,120
right? We did this about three
years ago. And then we went and

1094
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:14,010
found the websites. Yeah. And
the design of designers and the

1095
01:04:14,070 --> 01:04:17,430
where they're where they're
hosted. And it was just bogus.

1096
01:04:17,550 --> 01:04:20,820
And if you if you if you take a
look at the map, if you know if

1097
01:04:20,820 --> 01:04:26,100
you have take a little bit of a
little bit of effort, and you

1098
01:04:26,100 --> 01:04:30,480
take a look at where Chechnya is
and you look at where places

1099
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,110
like Dagestan etcetera, you can
see that this is a very

1100
01:04:34,110 --> 01:04:38,400
strategically important in these
are important. The whole region

1101
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,420
is very important for Russia.
For Gazprom, for gas, which is

1102
01:04:42,570 --> 01:04:47,370
just geographical geopolitically
speaking. It's very important to

1103
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,910
own pieces of that. And so of
course, for years we've been

1104
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:56,460
stoking up Chechnya and rebels,
to you know, cause havoc on the

1105
01:04:56,460 --> 01:05:00,510
Russians. I mean, this is just
what we do. It's what we do. And

1106
01:05:00,510 --> 01:05:04,200
so this is for guy whose
daughter was married to the

1107
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,920
uncle. I mean, you can't just
say, you can just overlook that.

1108
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,040
Say, well, well, that's just a
coincidence. You know that

1109
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,140
hasn't that I mean, that's that
has nothing to do with what's

1110
01:05:13,140 --> 01:05:15,600
going on here. We've got to look
into this connection with

1111
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,330
Chechnya. Yeah. Why don't you
start with the uncle who was

1112
01:05:18,330 --> 01:05:22,530
married to a CIA high ranking
officials daughter, and who I

1113
01:05:22,530 --> 01:05:26,340
think worked for us AI D, which
is the State Department, which

1114
01:05:26,340 --> 01:05:30,720
is all it's all basically
funding for to start bullcrap.

1115
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,440
So there could be a larger thing
growing on acres. Yeah, there

1116
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:39,210
could be a larger thing going on
with, with Russia, etc. I'm not

1117
01:05:39,210 --> 01:05:41,550
too sure about that. Because it
still seems like there's just a

1118
01:05:41,550 --> 01:05:45,570
lot of a lot of mistakes and
confusion and you get these

1119
01:05:45,570 --> 01:05:48,930
reports that are going out. And
people are essentially lying. I

1120
01:05:48,930 --> 01:05:52,410
mean, we still have the governor
of the state who has not seen

1121
01:05:52,410 --> 01:05:55,110
the video of these guys putting
their backpacks down. This is

1122
01:05:55,110 --> 01:05:58,290
like the bin Laden photos. I
mean, that God did it kid put in

1123
01:05:58,290 --> 01:06:01,830
the same draw. It's like yellow.
Well, we can't show this to the

1124
01:06:01,830 --> 01:06:04,980
public, please. We've seen the
video. This is how television

1125
01:06:04,980 --> 01:06:08,610
works. We've seen the video of
these guys walking around, you

1126
01:06:08,610 --> 01:06:12,270
know, with a complete fool of
you not looking shady or hiding

1127
01:06:12,270 --> 01:06:15,810
anything. And we're told that
there's video of them, dropping

1128
01:06:15,810 --> 01:06:18,420
the backpacks and the explosion
goes off and they're not worried

1129
01:06:18,420 --> 01:06:21,510
at all. They're just moseying
around. But the governor has not

1130
01:06:21,510 --> 01:06:24,870
even seen this video. And I
don't understand why we can't

1131
01:06:24,870 --> 01:06:27,390
just see it. Just show me the
video. Show me that movie.

1132
01:06:27,420 --> 01:06:30,960
Why can't they? I mean, exactly.
The reason we can't see is

1133
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,230
because there is no video bull
crap, but could only play a

1134
01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:39,480
couple of clips. Good. One is
the this one here which is this

1135
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:44,280
just a short clip which is just
this this like, this is like I

1136
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:48,330
guess some sort of proof that
the one guy was was the bomber.

1137
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:53,400
This is the saw his face clip.
And just give this a little shot

1138
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:53,970
Bowman

1139
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,910
who was in the hospital with
both of his legs blown off

1140
01:06:57,150 --> 01:07:00,780
scribed Hamlins face the only
man who wasn't smiling

1141
01:07:00,810 --> 01:07:01,650
beforehand,

1142
01:07:01,740 --> 01:07:06,360
everyone was having a great
time. And just that one guy, you

1143
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,700
know, he didn't look like he was
having a good

1144
01:07:09,690 --> 01:07:12,330
door. You better stay inside
because if you're not looking

1145
01:07:12,330 --> 01:07:15,870
like you got a good time. If you
got your jollies on, you're in

1146
01:07:15,870 --> 01:07:16,470
trouble.

1147
01:07:17,310 --> 01:07:20,610
It's just like I've been to many
events where I'm not having a

1148
01:07:20,610 --> 01:07:24,360
good time. I mean, he's telling
me that everybody's happy go

1149
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,240
lucky at the Boston Marathon
you're not even having a good

1150
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:28,710
boosters who actually hope to
win

1151
01:07:28,710 --> 01:07:31,050
the race. You're not even having
a good time right now on this

1152
01:07:31,050 --> 01:07:31,950
very show.

1153
01:07:32,220 --> 01:07:35,250
She's I thought that was really
weird. Now talking about

1154
01:07:35,250 --> 01:07:39,090
somebody not seeing videos.
Here's your play this this is

1155
01:07:39,090 --> 01:07:45,270
the kid escaped the Mad killers
clip and this is this reinvents

1156
01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:48,870
the story about how the kid got
away didn't know he was Chinese

1157
01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:53,430
for one thing and how he escaped
these crazy killers. But he's

1158
01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:56,520
not there to tell us the story.
It's somebody else, the

1159
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:57,270
carjacking

1160
01:07:57,270 --> 01:07:59,490
victim who helped to prevent
more bloodshed.

1161
01:07:59,610 --> 01:08:02,430
Oh, yeah, this, isn't it. Thank
you for reminding me of this.

1162
01:08:02,670 --> 01:08:05,910
These are the all these people
who we heard about but had not

1163
01:08:05,910 --> 01:08:07,950
seen interviewed yet. It's very,
very interesting.

1164
01:08:07,950 --> 01:08:11,010
Authorities say he might have
prevented the alleged Boston

1165
01:08:11,010 --> 01:08:14,910
bombers from targeting New York
Times Square next, a young man

1166
01:08:14,910 --> 01:08:18,780
from China just 26 years old,
who asked to be called simply

1167
01:08:18,810 --> 01:08:19,410
Danny,

1168
01:08:19,529 --> 01:08:22,949
the older brother reaches into
the window unlocks the door gets

1169
01:08:22,949 --> 01:08:25,169
in point two silver handgun at
Danny.

1170
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:29,640
He described the 90 Terrifying
minutes to the Boston Globe. Did

1171
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,410
Danny feel like he was going to
die?

1172
01:08:31,710 --> 01:08:33,900
He he thought that he was going
to die.

1173
01:08:34,170 --> 01:08:37,380
In that car. He listened as the
two brothers talk to each other

1174
01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:41,820
about girls, their iPhones
music, the whole time fearing he

1175
01:08:41,820 --> 01:08:44,430
would be next. Danny was trying
to figure out how he could

1176
01:08:44,430 --> 01:08:48,210
escape the car they chose to
carjack low on gas, they pull

1177
01:08:48,210 --> 01:08:50,880
into the gas station, the
younger brother went into pay,

1178
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:54,390
the older brother puts his gun
down and begins working the GPS

1179
01:08:54,390 --> 01:08:58,110
in the car. And that was the
moment I did it very fast. And

1180
01:08:58,110 --> 01:09:01,170
he said, using my left hand and
right hand simultaneously to

1181
01:09:01,170 --> 01:09:04,770
open the door and fasten my seat
belt jump out and go. The victim

1182
01:09:04,770 --> 01:09:07,830
said he ran at an angle. So when
the brother grabbed his gun, it

1183
01:09:07,830 --> 01:09:10,440
would be harder to shoot him he
hid in the closet and the gas

1184
01:09:10,440 --> 01:09:14,520
station across the street, and
then called 911. Meantime,

1185
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,020
tonight, another voice,

1186
01:09:16,290 --> 01:09:19,920
the guy with the hat in the
glass aviators and the five

1187
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,900
o'clock show. Hey, so

1188
01:09:21,930 --> 01:09:25,890
I'm looking at the Boston Globe
who I will remind everybody at

1189
01:09:25,890 --> 01:09:29,640
one o'clock tweeted the police
are going to have a controlled

1190
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,220
detonation across from the
library, which is exactly the

1191
01:09:32,220 --> 01:09:36,510
spot where the second bomb went
off. And that's just been washed

1192
01:09:36,510 --> 01:09:39,300
away that whole you know, like
whoa, that's interesting. They

1193
01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:43,740
said that two hours before it
happened. But to the Boston

1194
01:09:43,740 --> 01:09:47,820
Globe in their Metro section.
Here's a globe reporter Erik

1195
01:09:47,820 --> 01:09:51,840
Moskovitz describes his
exclusive interview with Danny.

1196
01:09:52,260 --> 01:09:57,390
Now, the hill the man who
survived an abduction by the

1197
01:09:57,390 --> 01:10:02,460
marathon bomb suspects let's See
if we can play this. Oh, there's

1198
01:10:02,460 --> 01:10:04,800
a little Boston Globe jingle.
Let's see what's going. Nobody

1199
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,500
can ever imagine this happening
to them. And I think by the way,

1200
01:10:07,500 --> 01:10:07,950
this guy

1201
01:10:07,950 --> 01:10:13,920
is 12. Eric moszkowicz is is he
looks like Rand Paul, only 12

1202
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:14,460
years old.

1203
01:10:14,519 --> 01:10:17,159
He's still probably someone
who's been in the country as an

1204
01:10:17,159 --> 01:10:19,739
exchange student, gone back to
China and then just come back

1205
01:10:19,739 --> 01:10:22,649
and start work just gotten this
new car. I mean, it tells you a

1206
01:10:22,649 --> 01:10:24,809
lot about Danny that he had
pulled over the side of the road

1207
01:10:24,809 --> 01:10:27,179
to respond to a text message.
You know, he didn't do it while

1208
01:10:27,179 --> 01:10:29,759
he was driving and that's what
precipitated this he was stopped

1209
01:10:29,969 --> 01:10:32,069
and then he ends up getting
carjacked. And they take him and

1210
01:10:32,069 --> 01:10:35,399
the car and his money on this 90
minute you know, harrowing

1211
01:10:35,399 --> 01:10:35,939
ordeal.

1212
01:10:39,870 --> 01:10:45,630
This why don't we see this guy?
Why can't we see Danny? Isn't

1213
01:10:45,630 --> 01:10:49,260
Danny a hero that he thwarted
them from blowing up in Times

1214
01:10:49,260 --> 01:10:49,710
Square

1215
01:10:49,740 --> 01:10:53,040
Chinese spy? He doesn't want to
be on the air. Yeah, this is

1216
01:10:53,190 --> 01:10:58,860
okay. This is dubious. dubious?
Yes, at best. By the way,

1217
01:10:59,100 --> 01:11:02,070
according to the other report
with the ABC, by the way, most

1218
01:11:02,070 --> 01:11:05,820
of my clips today are from ABC.
He ran across to the Shell

1219
01:11:05,820 --> 01:11:09,630
station and hid in the closet.
Oh, yeah. Is that what he did?

1220
01:11:09,810 --> 01:11:13,650
That's what he said. Do you tell
me what you can go running into

1221
01:11:13,650 --> 01:11:18,390
a gas station? Chinese can't
speak English. So I got to hit a

1222
01:11:18,390 --> 01:11:24,930
guy got to hide in closet.
called the police on him? Well,

1223
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:29,160
let's not get into logic here.
What I would like to do is look

1224
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:33,630
at the cause whatever effect
this is interesting to me how

1225
01:11:33,630 --> 01:11:38,610
it's being used. Let's start off
once again with our friend,

1226
01:11:39,030 --> 01:11:45,240
Representative Congress. Douche
Peter King. And Peter King is on

1227
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,670
two committees. I think he's on
the Homeland Security Committee.

1228
01:11:47,670 --> 01:11:50,820
And is he on the Department of
Defense Committee. I mean, he's

1229
01:11:50,850 --> 01:11:54,900
an important guy when it comes
to money that is going to be

1230
01:11:54,900 --> 01:11:58,860
spent on putting weapons of war
into the hands of our police

1231
01:11:58,860 --> 01:12:02,280
forces and Department of
Homeland Security and creating

1232
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:06,270
the police state. And it usually
you have to listen to the guy

1233
01:12:06,270 --> 01:12:07,830
and it's just appalling.

1234
01:12:07,860 --> 01:12:11,550
Why intelligence so important to
be aggressive to be out front.

1235
01:12:11,610 --> 01:12:14,730
Be aggressive with the slaves be
up front? Yes. Show him who's

1236
01:12:14,730 --> 01:12:15,660
boss. Why it's

1237
01:12:15,660 --> 01:12:17,820
important if people if they see
something, say something Oh,

1238
01:12:17,820 --> 01:12:19,560
yes. See Something, Say
Something.

1239
01:12:23,820 --> 01:12:25,440
Should be buying our jingle
chairman

1240
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:28,230
of the House Committee on
Homeland Security. There you go.

1241
01:12:28,290 --> 01:12:29,850
And which is the big one.

1242
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:34,380
Okay, this is merchants selling
any components what we use for

1243
01:12:34,380 --> 01:12:38,580
bomb everywhere from Wall
bearings to beauty products.

1244
01:12:38,580 --> 01:12:39,300
That's right,

1245
01:12:39,300 --> 01:12:42,480
beauty products. If you are
selling beauty products, and you

1246
01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:43,590
don't trust that person,

1247
01:12:43,980 --> 01:12:46,710
they can be used to make bombs,
they should notify the police.

1248
01:12:46,860 --> 01:12:48,960
And that's right. Hey,

1249
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,590
what are you doing buying that
beauty product? I'm gonna report

1250
01:12:52,590 --> 01:12:53,280
you citizen,

1251
01:12:53,730 --> 01:12:56,790
to police as Krishna Kelly,
those in New York are out in the

1252
01:12:56,790 --> 01:12:58,800
communities monitoring what's
happening I know they've been

1253
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,830
criticized for that's how you
can head off this type of,

1254
01:13:02,490 --> 01:13:06,090
hopefully head off this type of
attack. So I would say you

1255
01:13:06,090 --> 01:13:08,670
probably see a certain
tightening of security. But the

1256
01:13:08,670 --> 01:13:11,130
main thing is to get more
intelligence. And that's what

1257
01:13:11,130 --> 01:13:11,730
has to be done.

1258
01:13:12,570 --> 01:13:15,930
Are you satisfied so far with
first response and with what the

1259
01:13:15,930 --> 01:13:18,780
federal government is doing? The
FBI obviously as the lead

1260
01:13:18,780 --> 01:13:19,320
agency?

1261
01:13:19,980 --> 01:13:22,710
I certainly on the Boston Police
Department has an outstanding

1262
01:13:22,710 --> 01:13:26,190
police department, FBI, Homeland
Security, ATF they're all

1263
01:13:26,190 --> 01:13:29,550
working on this President is
leading it now. This is this is

1264
01:13:29,580 --> 01:13:32,430
not a time for Democratic
Republican politics. I think the

1265
01:13:32,430 --> 01:13:36,030
President is putting in place
and putting in motion the

1266
01:13:36,060 --> 01:13:39,690
counterterrorism and anti
terrorism units we have in our

1267
01:13:39,690 --> 01:13:42,300
country that have been developed
over the last 11 and a half

1268
01:13:42,300 --> 01:13:42,630
years.

1269
01:13:42,660 --> 01:13:44,400
All right. What does that mean?
What are what are the

1270
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,970
President's putting what in
place anti terrorism units

1271
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:52,320
that's been in development? I'm
not familiar with any of this. I

1272
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,270
gotta do an outstanding job.
I've no doubt of that

1273
01:13:54,270 --> 01:13:56,130
whatsoever. By terrorizing

1274
01:13:56,130 --> 01:13:57,000
citizens

1275
01:13:57,269 --> 01:14:00,239
and congressmen briefly, do you
think that this will lead to

1276
01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:03,209
more cameras? I know that it's
controversial. There

1277
01:14:03,210 --> 01:14:05,280
appears me one more camera I

1278
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,880
see issues. Boston does have a
lot of cameras, you're being

1279
01:14:09,150 --> 01:14:12,630
cities led by London have the
most are Americans going to have

1280
01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:15,120
to get used to more surveillance
on a daily basis?

1281
01:14:15,450 --> 01:14:17,610
I think we do. Because I think
privacy involves being in a

1282
01:14:17,610 --> 01:14:20,070
private location being out in
the street. There's not an

1283
01:14:20,070 --> 01:14:23,220
expectation of privacy. Anyone
can look at, you can see you can

1284
01:14:23,220 --> 01:14:25,620
watch what you're doing. The
camera just makes it more

1285
01:14:25,620 --> 01:14:28,110
sophisticated. But it's no
different from your neighbor

1286
01:14:28,110 --> 01:14:30,840
looking out the window at your
police officer looking at you

1287
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,090
walking down the street. So I
think we do need more cameras,

1288
01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:35,820
we have to stay ahead of the
terrorists. And I do know in New

1289
01:14:35,820 --> 01:14:39,210
York, the the low Manhattan
Security Initiative, which is

1290
01:14:39,210 --> 01:14:41,790
based on cameras, the
outstanding work that results

1291
01:14:41,790 --> 01:14:46,440
from that. So yes, I do favor
what cameras and it's a great

1292
01:14:46,440 --> 01:14:51,450
law and law enforcement method
and device. And again, it keeps

1293
01:14:51,450 --> 01:14:53,610
us ahead of the terrorists who
are constantly trying to kill

1294
01:14:53,610 --> 01:14:53,760
us.

1295
01:14:54,510 --> 01:14:57,630
Constantly trying to see though
Hey, there's cameras all over

1296
01:14:57,630 --> 01:15:00,180
busic And then you see the guy
placing the bomb in the gun. But

1297
01:15:00,180 --> 01:15:03,150
that's because was that early
don't know, John, we don't have

1298
01:15:03,150 --> 01:15:06,180
enough. You know we why we don't
have enough due because we

1299
01:15:06,210 --> 01:15:09,090
haven't met Charlie, everybody
out there all you people, all

1300
01:15:09,090 --> 01:15:12,180
the businessmen out there
thinking about doing an m&a Just

1301
01:15:12,180 --> 01:15:15,000
man, imagine having a camera on
you when you leave the office,

1302
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:18,060
get in the limo follow you all
the way to some other company

1303
01:15:18,210 --> 01:15:21,540
that you're visiting for some
unknown reason. So you can give

1304
01:15:21,540 --> 01:15:25,710
these congress people and the
security people some heads up on

1305
01:15:25,710 --> 01:15:28,350
the m&a so they can invest
wisely,

1306
01:15:28,410 --> 01:15:33,420
very wisely. So, no, this is
leading to one thing and one

1307
01:15:33,420 --> 01:15:36,300
thing only. And this is why they
had to bring it around to New

1308
01:15:36,300 --> 01:15:40,890
York City, which was mean, so
you're telling me this kid who,

1309
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,010
apparently but didn't really he
shot himself with an imaginary

1310
01:15:44,010 --> 01:15:48,630
gun in the throat? He can't talk
but he's writing down. Yeah. And

1311
01:15:48,630 --> 01:15:51,510
we were planning on going to
blow everything up in Time

1312
01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:54,540
Square with our elbow pipe
bombs, which we still had, oh,

1313
01:15:54,540 --> 01:15:57,360
wait a minute. And I don't know
We blew some of those up with

1314
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,570
the Mercedes that we a car
jacket, even though my older

1315
01:16:00,570 --> 01:16:02,670
brother actually owned a
Mercedes, but that doesn't

1316
01:16:02,670 --> 01:16:05,880
matter. Now. And we were but
yeah, when we ran out of gas, so

1317
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,820
we couldn't do it. Yeah, no,
this is not true people. The

1318
01:16:08,820 --> 01:16:12,750
only reason we're bringing this
to New York is Bloomberg is the

1319
01:16:12,750 --> 01:16:17,760
guy who only two months ago said
he sees no difference between a

1320
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:23,940
drone over New York AI in the
sky. Versus cameras. That's why

1321
01:16:23,940 --> 01:16:26,640
it's been brought to Bloomberg
Bloomberg is the guy who's going

1322
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,790
to take it from the cameras
hanging around the streets to

1323
01:16:29,790 --> 01:16:34,140
the drones. This is the go to
guy this and this is the plan

1324
01:16:34,140 --> 01:16:36,660
for now. I'm not saying it was
set up for this but that's

1325
01:16:36,660 --> 01:16:38,100
what's going on right now. It

1326
01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:41,670
wasn't that that's another
indication of criminal activity

1327
01:16:41,670 --> 01:16:46,560
because the event was scripted
one way goes another and then

1328
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,350
they started an ad libbing all
this stuff about them. Yes.

1329
01:16:49,380 --> 01:16:51,960
About the you know, they're
trying to piece together a bit a

1330
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,650
narrative that makes some sense
and they can't do it. Well, so

1331
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,200
there is no there was too many
holes in the narrative. I mean,

1332
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,440
you yourself talking about why
are we hearing about the kids

1333
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:04,170
running? Why don't we see the
video we see videos of

1334
01:17:04,170 --> 01:17:06,960
everything else? Why? Why is
there no videos with cameras all

1335
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:10,200
over Boston. of them stuffing
the bomb in the in the in the

1336
01:17:10,230 --> 01:17:13,500
garbage can exactly. There's
just one there's just way too

1337
01:17:13,500 --> 01:17:17,610
much. There's too many loose
ends is it's poorly scripted.

1338
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:21,540
But we don't know anything about
this. And it's just but it's

1339
01:17:21,540 --> 01:17:23,790
obvious that something's amiss.
But

1340
01:17:23,820 --> 01:17:27,690
that doesn't mean we can have
some more fun by playing some

1341
01:17:27,690 --> 01:17:31,440
clips from now, of course, we're
in Boston, MIT's backyard. We've

1342
01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:37,710
got Sherry Turkle, who is I
guess a professor of social

1343
01:17:37,710 --> 01:17:40,080
studies or something sociologist

1344
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,930
is very famous. She's very
famous. Yeah,

1345
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:47,070
she's an idiot. Okay, that could
be she's an add on to experts,

1346
01:17:47,070 --> 01:17:50,010
our two guests, CNN national
security analyst Peter Bergen.

1347
01:17:50,220 --> 01:17:52,770
Also, I'm joined here in Boston,
listen to

1348
01:17:52,770 --> 01:17:56,700
her mess up the script, the host
is going to try and bring her

1349
01:17:56,700 --> 01:18:00,120
back to the script, she gives up
and just gives up and goes to

1350
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:00,720
the other guy

1351
01:18:00,810 --> 01:18:03,690
by MIT professor of social
studies of science and

1352
01:18:03,690 --> 01:18:07,290
technology, Sherry Turkle. Thank
you both for being here. Sherry,

1353
01:18:07,290 --> 01:18:10,320
let me begin with you. It is
possible to be radicalized

1354
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,740
online. We've seen it happen
before. But we also know that it

1355
01:18:13,740 --> 01:18:17,910
is more rare than often when we
see radicalization. If that is

1356
01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:21,540
the case among these two
brothers, that it often requires

1357
01:18:21,660 --> 01:18:25,320
face to face contact. What is
your assessment on on how

1358
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:29,190
prevalent online solely online
radicalization is?

1359
01:18:29,220 --> 01:18:33,900
No. Can we just stop here for a
second? No, it's obvious that

1360
01:18:33,930 --> 01:18:36,840
the here's how the pre interview
it is Terkel, a professor

1361
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:41,010
Terkel. Yeah, we're going to
tell you that people can be

1362
01:18:41,010 --> 01:18:43,710
radicalized just from the
internet, and you're going to

1363
01:18:43,710 --> 01:18:47,850
agree with it. I mean, that's
that's you just spend lavishly.

1364
01:18:47,850 --> 01:18:50,400
That's that'd be let's be a
little more honest about how

1365
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:54,930
this actually works. The way it
works in because it's happened

1366
01:18:54,930 --> 01:18:59,250
to me just recently, as a matter
of fact, they call you up for a

1367
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,250
usually as before that it's not
like at the show, because these

1368
01:19:02,250 --> 01:19:05,070
are usually remote. So they call
you up at home or someplace and

1369
01:19:05,070 --> 01:19:07,140
they start they talk to you
about what you can talk about.

1370
01:19:07,710 --> 01:19:10,680
And one of the things they'll do
is they say, Well, we got a guy

1371
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:14,760
who's gonna say this sucks. And
we need somebody that's, that

1372
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,510
says it's great. What do you
think of it? They never really

1373
01:19:18,510 --> 01:19:21,120
tell you to say anything. But
they tell you, they asked you in

1374
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:25,230
advance. What do you think? And
you say, I think it's great. And

1375
01:19:25,230 --> 01:19:27,060
they said, Okay, well, we'll
have your book we'll be calling

1376
01:19:27,060 --> 01:19:30,870
you at 11 Or you say no, you
know what, I think it's sucks to

1377
01:19:31,230 --> 01:19:33,660
Oh, okay. Oh, you know,

1378
01:19:34,860 --> 01:19:37,470
we might call you next time.
Yeah.

1379
01:19:37,500 --> 01:19:39,810
And then they just don't call
you and they didn't they go to

1380
01:19:39,810 --> 01:19:42,840
the next person to find somebody
who's who's going to say it

1381
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:46,020
based on what they talked to him
about earlier. The producer

1382
01:19:46,020 --> 01:19:50,460
calls and you have this long
conversation. And and then you

1383
01:19:50,460 --> 01:19:53,160
actually sometimes you end up
writing the script. I've done

1384
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,770
this a few times because I'm on
one side that they really like

1385
01:19:55,980 --> 01:19:58,560
and so they say yeah, what else
and then you tell him Bill kind

1386
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,850
of stuff, then did they steal
it? Usually the host steals the

1387
01:20:02,850 --> 01:20:06,480
material horse, of course. And
then they asked you Do you agree

1388
01:20:06,480 --> 01:20:09,180
with this? Yeah, I agree with it
because I wrote it. But you

1389
01:20:09,180 --> 01:20:13,050
don't say that, of course or you
won't get rebooked. Now, so So

1390
01:20:13,050 --> 01:20:14,970
there's a couple of things here
that are kind of interesting,

1391
01:20:14,970 --> 01:20:16,080
but play the rest of this clip.

1392
01:20:17,130 --> 01:20:21,990
Well, I actually I wanted to
kind of interject in there. So

1393
01:20:21,990 --> 01:20:27,030
the last time I was ever asked
to be on a mainstream television

1394
01:20:27,090 --> 01:20:33,780
appearance was 2009. And you
know what that was, don't you,

1395
01:20:33,780 --> 01:20:34,710
John? Oh, this

1396
01:20:34,710 --> 01:20:38,370
is the Michael Jackson thing.
Yes. So I was you're done.

1397
01:20:38,370 --> 01:20:40,440
You've been blackballed. Do you
want it? Should we play that

1398
01:20:40,440 --> 01:20:42,930
clip just to play Adams clips?

1399
01:20:44,220 --> 01:20:47,250
Why do you think that's stupid?
Or do I think it's great? Okay,

1400
01:20:47,250 --> 01:20:50,610
so, so I had the pre interview
and the the whole thing and they

1401
01:20:50,610 --> 01:20:53,460
wanted to ask me about Michael
Jackson. And then I threw

1402
01:20:53,460 --> 01:20:54,720
something in there. Just by the

1403
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:58,500
way, let's do go back up a
little more. This happened

1404
01:20:58,980 --> 01:21:01,500
before anybody suspected foul
play?

1405
01:21:01,590 --> 01:21:04,590
Oh, yeah. No, this this was this
was even before the funeral.

1406
01:21:04,980 --> 01:21:07,530
You're just supposed to go all
the poor guy was great.

1407
01:21:07,530 --> 01:21:11,130
Oh, no, yeah, I worked with him.
He was awesome. He really broke

1408
01:21:11,130 --> 01:21:13,830
through. You could hear that
parts of the pre interview

1409
01:21:13,830 --> 01:21:17,340
coming through where, you know,
he was the first black artist to

1410
01:21:17,340 --> 01:21:20,850
get real play on MTV. That was
what this was supposed to be the

1411
01:21:20,850 --> 01:21:24,600
MTV guy talking about Michael
Jackson, The Wizard of videos,

1412
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:29,520
music videos, and the end the
man who broke through the racist

1413
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:35,550
policies of MTV. Okay, the crew,
and exactly 12 seconds showed up

1414
01:21:35,550 --> 01:21:40,830
on air. And I said some really
good stuff. So then MSNBC sends

1415
01:21:40,830 --> 01:21:43,290
me an email, Hey, you know,
would you like to be on? It's

1416
01:21:43,290 --> 01:21:46,740
like, okay, I'll do your show.
If you give me the, you know,

1417
01:21:46,740 --> 01:21:50,880
the title is Adam curry. You
know, you can say x MTV VJ and

1418
01:21:51,060 --> 01:21:55,530
just put in there President
mvno.com. And it was kind of

1419
01:21:55,530 --> 01:21:58,560
funny, because this was the day
I guess that was Thursday, or

1420
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,250
Friday, when they announced the
big tribute at the Nokia theater

1421
01:22:02,250 --> 01:22:05,820
at the Staples arena, which they
kept saying over and over and

1422
01:22:05,820 --> 01:22:09,060
over again, as if these guys you
know, had benefited almost I

1423
01:22:09,060 --> 01:22:11,610
know that's the real name of the
arena's. But Jesus just come

1424
01:22:11,610 --> 01:22:16,230
with comes across kind of eerie.
And so they have a location

1425
01:22:16,230 --> 01:22:18,930
shoot there outside this press
conference, which was a total

1426
01:22:18,930 --> 01:22:22,350
dud, by the way, you know, hey,
here's the news. We're not going

1427
01:22:22,350 --> 01:22:24,420
to tell you anything about the
concert, not know about the

1428
01:22:24,420 --> 01:22:27,720
tribute. But here's the mayor to
tell you about how cool they are

1429
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:31,260
at controlling the crowds. And
and there's no more information,

1430
01:22:31,290 --> 01:22:34,710
enjoy your live shoot. So
they're just trying to fill up

1431
01:22:34,710 --> 01:22:37,140
time because they got these, you
know, they got all the reporters

1432
01:22:37,140 --> 01:22:39,720
out on the scene. And so I'm on
for about five minutes. I'm

1433
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,120
gonna play a little bit of the
beginning. And then I'll play

1434
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:45,300
you the real Zinger I got in
there then able to see very

1435
01:22:45,300 --> 01:22:49,890
much. So this is this is she's
talking to the Chris, from

1436
01:22:49,890 --> 01:22:52,650
MSNBC. He's talking to the
council woman and acting mayor

1437
01:22:52,650 --> 01:22:53,700
of Los Angeles, a woman

1438
01:22:53,700 --> 01:22:56,070
and acting mayor Jan Perry. It's
really nice to be to come over.

1439
01:22:56,070 --> 01:22:58,650
I know. It's been a busy number
of days. Oh,

1440
01:22:58,650 --> 01:23:01,620
you're so cool. Thank you. It's
so hard. It's so horrible. All

1441
01:23:01,620 --> 01:23:02,880
this work you're doing so thanks

1442
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,970
so much. It helps to get the
word out. Thanks so much. Thank

1443
01:23:05,970 --> 01:23:06,570
you very much.

1444
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,690
And the word by the way is if
you don't have one of the 17,000

1445
01:23:09,690 --> 01:23:11,430
tickets don't show up.

1446
01:23:11,730 --> 01:23:15,720
Michael Jackson and MTV could
either have become an American

1447
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,080
institution without the other.
The 1980s witnessed the birth of

1448
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,480
music, television and the
transformation of Michael

1449
01:23:21,480 --> 01:23:26,490
Jackson from superstar to global
sensation. Just two years after

1450
01:23:26,490 --> 01:23:31,380
MTBS launch, Jackson released
the 14 Minute Thriller video and

1451
01:23:31,380 --> 01:23:36,540
the music changed the world
forever. Forever.

1452
01:23:36,930 --> 01:23:39,570
Listen to how I come next. I'm
prepared right I'm gonna I'm

1453
01:23:39,570 --> 01:23:43,590
gonna really get this is so
meta, John. We're coming up.

1454
01:23:44,130 --> 01:23:46,650
I wish we just play the
interview. Well, I

1455
01:23:46,650 --> 01:23:49,200
just grabbed the thing offline.
I mean, it's coming now you're

1456
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:50,490
coming into it and really roll

1457
01:23:50,519 --> 01:23:54,449
soundstage Jackson desegregated
MTV, and ushered in the era of

1458
01:23:54,449 --> 01:23:58,319
elaborate and high tech music
videos. Joining us now via Skype

1459
01:23:58,319 --> 01:24:05,009
is Adam curry former MTV DJ Adam
is also president@nevio.com

1460
01:24:06,330 --> 01:24:07,560
cool is that I have to

1461
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:11,400
tell you the things that strikes
me is I've watched thriller over

1462
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:11,820
the last

1463
01:24:11,820 --> 01:24:14,160
several days this is so funny
because because I actually made

1464
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,710
reference to what she's saying
that I've watched through it No,

1465
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:18,960
they don't play through it. Have
you seen thriller in its

1466
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,230
entirety anywhere in the past
two weeks John anywhere Have you

1467
01:24:22,230 --> 01:24:24,060
seen the 14 minute video play?

1468
01:24:24,420 --> 01:24:27,330
Cuz you're gonna play the course
tonight of course now.

1469
01:24:28,650 --> 01:24:31,980
You can't hear that music
playing you can't have that

1470
01:24:32,010 --> 01:24:36,450
video playing without stopping
what you're doing and watching

1471
01:24:36,630 --> 01:24:39,690
talk about the impact on police
talk

1472
01:24:39,690 --> 01:24:41,040
about the impacts

1473
01:24:41,070 --> 01:24:44,520
your culture on that Thriller
video and even earlier Michael

1474
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,950
Jackson videos. Well, Chris, it

1475
01:24:46,950 --> 01:24:49,890
was really tremendous. And
unfortunately, there's hardly a

1476
01:24:49,890 --> 01:24:52,590
channel that plays the video in
its entirety anymore. It was

1477
01:24:52,590 --> 01:24:55,770
about 14 I was my little zing at
MTV minutes long, which of

1478
01:24:55,770 --> 01:24:59,220
course was completely
groundbreaking for the format of

1479
01:24:59,220 --> 01:24:59,970
music videos.

1480
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,790
isn't what I say she talks about
desegregation, but I just call

1481
01:25:02,790 --> 01:25:03,570
it at the time.

1482
01:25:04,290 --> 01:25:08,700
It did more it combined
conceptual footage with dance

1483
01:25:08,700 --> 01:25:12,300
with performance. It also made
directors important all of a

1484
01:25:12,300 --> 01:25:15,210
sudden John Landis, very famous
film director directed the

1485
01:25:15,210 --> 01:25:19,050
Thriller video. I've been some
price famous from many movies

1486
01:25:19,050 --> 01:25:22,590
with a voice was the heart of
it. But Michael Jackson did much

1487
01:25:22,590 --> 01:25:26,670
more at the time, he really put
black faces on MTV, this was

1488
01:25:26,670 --> 01:25:30,720
groundbreaking at the time in
the in the mid 80s. MTV was kind

1489
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:30,930
of

1490
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,890
nice. So enough of that. Now
listen to the end, where I sneak

1491
01:25:34,890 --> 01:25:37,410
in a little bit of no agenda to
speak, which I was quite proud

1492
01:25:37,410 --> 01:25:42,270
of. Yes, absolutely. And she
sets me up with a stupid

1493
01:25:42,270 --> 01:25:44,280
question, because he's fill in
time this question.

1494
01:25:44,820 --> 01:25:46,980
And by the way, we want all our
listeners should do this when

1495
01:25:46,980 --> 01:25:48,120
given the opportunity

1496
01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:53,520
to call in to MSNBC. No, not in
that little no agenda speak. Oh,

1497
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:53,700
yeah.

1498
01:25:53,700 --> 01:25:57,630
Wait, you can absolutely hear it
comes. Right now. The coffee is

1499
01:25:57,630 --> 01:25:59,970
being delivered. Hold on, I'll
sign for you. What's your name?

1500
01:25:59,970 --> 01:26:00,210
So

1501
01:26:00,210 --> 01:26:03,480
the short of what you're gonna
say? Is that the she asked a

1502
01:26:03,480 --> 01:26:05,250
dumb question, because
obviously, they're filling time,

1503
01:26:05,250 --> 01:26:07,950
which they do a lot of nm or
actually all these new stations

1504
01:26:07,950 --> 01:26:11,970
would that talk the, you know,
the news game, they they they

1505
01:26:11,970 --> 01:26:14,760
waiting for somebody to show up?
Or they're, or they're trying to

1506
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,340
wait for somebody to say
something to the ear. And so one

1507
01:26:17,340 --> 01:26:20,340
of the things they're extremely
adept at is what I'm doing now,

1508
01:26:20,340 --> 01:26:21,180
which is just Yes.

1509
01:26:21,450 --> 01:26:23,940
Thank you very much shatter.
Here we go. Let's listen to her

1510
01:26:23,940 --> 01:26:25,260
stupid setup question. But

1511
01:26:25,260 --> 01:26:27,150
these rehearsals, it's about,

1512
01:26:27,630 --> 01:26:30,780
she's saying, Oh, well, you
know, there's so many videos,

1513
01:26:30,780 --> 01:26:33,030
wait till it comes out on video.
Yeah.

1514
01:26:33,030 --> 01:26:37,140
And can you imagine if they
released some complete videos,

1515
01:26:37,590 --> 01:26:40,170
because we know that these
rehearsals were done in high

1516
01:26:40,170 --> 01:26:40,680
def?

1517
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,230
Well, there's a clue right
there. By the way, the

1518
01:26:43,230 --> 01:26:45,570
rehearsals were done in high
def. So of course, there'll be a

1519
01:26:45,570 --> 01:26:46,380
video you do

1520
01:26:46,500 --> 01:26:50,460
that would mean in terms of just
viewership to places like MTV? I

1521
01:26:50,460 --> 01:26:52,590
mean, there seems to be an
insatiable appetite for

1522
01:26:53,820 --> 01:26:56,610
Yes, absolutely. And I'm amazed,
as you know, as you're showing

1523
01:26:56,610 --> 01:26:58,800
the footage, and everyone seems
to be showing the footage of

1524
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,700
these rehearsals just two days
before. Here's a guy who clearly

1525
01:27:02,700 --> 01:27:08,850
was in great physical shape. He
had 3040 concerts coming up in

1526
01:27:08,850 --> 01:27:12,510
the Oh, two Arena in London.
That's a huge production, you

1527
01:27:12,510 --> 01:27:15,450
have to be preparing yourself a
year in advance, at least

1528
01:27:15,450 --> 01:27:18,720
physically, you can't put on a
show like that without an

1529
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:22,440
enormous insurance coverage,
which includes a tremendous

1530
01:27:22,440 --> 01:27:26,430
amount of physical testing. So
I'm amazed at what happened that

1531
01:27:26,430 --> 01:27:30,630
I know that there's breaking
news about some form of medical

1532
01:27:30,630 --> 01:27:33,690
medicinal drugs that were found
in his home. I'm, quite frankly,

1533
01:27:33,690 --> 01:27:35,790
I'm amazed that no one is
looking at a murder angle on

1534
01:27:35,790 --> 01:27:40,230
this. At this point, there's
smoke coming out of her ear.

1535
01:27:40,230 --> 01:27:40,710
She's like,

1536
01:27:43,020 --> 01:27:44,700
and you can just hear the
producer going?

1537
01:27:47,370 --> 01:27:49,920
In so they never called again.
They hung up on me literally.

1538
01:27:50,130 --> 01:27:53,160
Yeah, well, they should have.
And boy, you know, we were

1539
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,830
interrupting clips too much. I
agree

1540
01:27:55,890 --> 01:27:57,030
too much. Geez, that

1541
01:27:57,030 --> 01:27:58,110
took forever. Yeah.

1542
01:27:58,500 --> 01:28:00,060
Well, I was excited about that.

1543
01:28:00,660 --> 01:28:05,040
No, no, I remember the show we
clip interruption was kind of a

1544
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:06,030
high priority. We

1545
01:28:06,060 --> 01:28:10,080
i i apologize. I apologize. But
the but the

1546
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:13,980
apologize for what? For being on
the show in 2009. Yeah,

1547
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:17,190
I apologize for that. I
apologize for having to drag you

1548
01:28:17,190 --> 01:28:20,430
through that again. Anyway, so
we did all that to interrupt

1549
01:28:20,430 --> 01:28:23,160
this clip, and here is Miss
Turkel, who you say is very

1550
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,790
famous. And she's, she's going
to read the script, I think it's

1551
01:28:26,820 --> 01:28:31,500
becoming more prevalent, because
in this new age, the internet

1552
01:28:32,010 --> 01:28:35,820
serves as a community, people
find their community and their

1553
01:28:36,090 --> 01:28:43,740
places of contact and comfort on
the internet. And so I think

1554
01:28:43,740 --> 01:28:46,980
that you're going to be able to
see, the internet is the place

1555
01:28:46,980 --> 01:28:48,780
where people do become radical.
You

1556
01:28:48,780 --> 01:28:50,640
can see hours and hours and

1557
01:28:50,670 --> 01:28:53,550
hours and hours. That's where
people go to find their home.

1558
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,240
You know, this is what I found
interesting. So she says, The

1559
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:01,050
woman clearly Terkel gives a
horrible response. She's like,

1560
01:29:01,050 --> 01:29:03,630
Yeah, well, I think that, you
know, it's where people find

1561
01:29:03,630 --> 01:29:06,300
their comfort and their
community and this is not what

1562
01:29:06,300 --> 01:29:08,880
they want to hear. Because the
in the scripted said, There's

1563
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,250
something like you're watching
hours and hours of video, you're

1564
01:29:11,250 --> 01:29:14,730
getting indoctrinated. That's
why the CNN host says hours and

1565
01:29:14,730 --> 01:29:17,130
hours and she says, Oh, yeah,
hours and hours. They don't even

1566
01:29:17,130 --> 01:29:18,630
say hours and hours of what?

1567
01:29:19,110 --> 01:29:23,250
Well, there's another aspect of
this. You have to consider how

1568
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:27,210
wouldn't be full circle has been
around forever? When have you

1569
01:29:27,210 --> 01:29:28,830
seen her before? Never. I've

1570
01:29:28,830 --> 01:29:30,990
never seen her before. Have you
ever heard of her? No?

1571
01:29:31,170 --> 01:29:32,400
Well, now you know why.

1572
01:29:34,230 --> 01:29:38,280
And then she goes and this was
this a short clip to her other

1573
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:42,180
expert. This is the CNN I guess
the terrorism expert, which I

1574
01:29:42,180 --> 01:29:47,100
think is another Brit and I'm
sick and tired of the Brits all

1575
01:29:47,100 --> 01:29:51,750
over our news. It does not make
me believe the news any more. Or

1576
01:29:51,750 --> 01:29:55,290
any less. But this seems to be I
apparently, you know, it's like

1577
01:29:55,290 --> 01:29:58,080
if it's a Brit than the news is
more serious sounding or

1578
01:29:58,080 --> 01:29:59,970
something. It's very strange.
Whatever.

1579
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,940
The thing that's gone in and out
of vogue for years, okay, well,

1580
01:30:02,940 --> 01:30:03,060
it's

1581
01:30:03,060 --> 01:30:08,040
back again. And he's essentially
admitting that inspire magazine

1582
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:09,720
is a honeypot for the CIA.

1583
01:30:09,750 --> 01:30:14,070
You know, Peter, I want to talk
to you about what what is on

1584
01:30:14,100 --> 01:30:19,200
this online magazine Inspire?
And also, there's been questions

1585
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,350
about how it's a widely
circulated, not shut down, how

1586
01:30:22,350 --> 01:30:25,170
closely it's monitored by US
authorities. What can you tell

1587
01:30:25,170 --> 01:30:27,000
us about that? What do we know
about that?

1588
01:30:29,010 --> 01:30:32,490
Well, shutting these things
down, is not particularly easy,

1589
01:30:32,490 --> 01:30:34,470
because you just shut it down.

1590
01:30:34,770 --> 01:30:36,540
You know what I love so much
about this?

1591
01:30:37,230 --> 01:30:38,880
Guy's down left and right.

1592
01:30:39,450 --> 01:30:43,380
But also, it's not an online
magazine, it's a PDF. It's just

1593
01:30:43,380 --> 01:30:47,340
a PDF that people you know, he's
on the server, you can do it,

1594
01:30:47,370 --> 01:30:50,940
you can do a million things. But
yeah, no, it's not. But but it's

1595
01:30:50,940 --> 01:30:53,910
not that we don't it's not, you
know, it's hard to shut it down.

1596
01:30:53,910 --> 01:30:55,590
But we wouldn't want to you see

1597
01:30:55,620 --> 01:31:00,150
that it pops up somewhere else
in some other jihadi forum. 80%

1598
01:31:00,150 --> 01:31:03,150
of the internet traffic in the
world goes through the United

1599
01:31:03,150 --> 01:31:03,600
States.

1600
01:31:04,830 --> 01:31:05,670
Is that true?

1601
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:09,480
Yeah, go through those, those
four exchange point. Okay.

1602
01:31:09,510 --> 01:31:12,750
So technically, it would be
possible to shut down a lot of

1603
01:31:12,750 --> 01:31:15,480
these sites. But there's, you
know, for law enforcement,

1604
01:31:15,480 --> 01:31:18,720
there's also a value in having
these sites up who's visiting

1605
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:23,430
them. So there's been this kind
of tension between information

1606
01:31:23,430 --> 01:31:27,780
gathering because you can
monitor these jihadi forums. And

1607
01:31:27,780 --> 01:31:30,990
also, you know, the fact that
they are clearly sometimes

1608
01:31:30,990 --> 01:31:31,920
inspiring people.

1609
01:31:32,190 --> 01:31:37,260
Oh, no, even uses the Inspire
word, inspiring people. And then

1610
01:31:37,410 --> 01:31:41,850
my final one here is just Erin
Burnett, who, who just wraps it

1611
01:31:41,850 --> 01:31:46,110
all up in a nice little bundle,
because Twitter equals terror,

1612
01:31:47,220 --> 01:31:49,920
terrorists and Twitter. And we
all know the online forum is a

1613
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:53,130
place where you can follow the
musings of anybody and 140

1614
01:31:53,130 --> 01:31:56,100
characters or less and there are
some frankly, disgusting and

1615
01:31:56,100 --> 01:31:57,180
awful people on Twitter.

1616
01:31:57,210 --> 01:31:58,170
Yeah, that the

1617
01:31:58,170 --> 01:32:01,860
real Dvorak? There's all kinds
of really disgusting people on

1618
01:32:01,860 --> 01:32:03,840
Twitter, disgusting, disgusting,

1619
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:06,510
the terror groups are
increasingly using it. And the

1620
01:32:06,510 --> 01:32:09,870
question now is whether Twitter
is helping self radicalized

1621
01:32:09,870 --> 01:32:10,800
people like this, this

1622
01:32:11,460 --> 01:32:14,400
bombers self radicalizing thing
is just killing me.

1623
01:32:14,460 --> 01:32:16,920
It's a crucial question. And Dan
revers has an out front

1624
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:17,910
investigation tonight.

1625
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:19,290
Another Brit probably

1626
01:32:23,010 --> 01:32:26,160
away from the physical
battlefield terrorists at

1627
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:29,280
creating a virtual one on
Twitter, I'm

1628
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:32,760
done with this. This is too
stupid. But you get the point.

1629
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:36,030
It says it's self
radicalization. You know, it can

1630
01:32:36,030 --> 01:32:38,910
be used at this point. But you
know, the real money is going to

1631
01:32:38,910 --> 01:32:42,330
Homeland Security, putting
weapons of war into the hands of

1632
01:32:42,330 --> 01:32:45,870
our police forces. You know,
drones overhead flying with

1633
01:32:45,870 --> 01:32:49,200
Gorgon stare. So that can mean
which is always outdated by now

1634
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:51,960
Gorgon stare. But if you haven't
seen it, we've been talking

1635
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,900
about this for years. I mean,
it's high, high, high resolution

1636
01:32:54,900 --> 01:32:59,580
stuff. You know, it's just like
police state Skynet, whatever

1637
01:32:59,580 --> 01:33:02,310
you want to call it. It's all
just fiction becomes reality.

1638
01:33:02,310 --> 01:33:06,060
It's happening. It's just get a
grip get a hold is happening.

1639
01:33:06,090 --> 01:33:07,080
Good luck with that.

1640
01:33:07,350 --> 01:33:10,740
couple interesting stories kind
of, again, yeah. Good luck with

1641
01:33:10,740 --> 01:33:13,980
all of it. Yeah, you know, I've
decided that, you know,

1642
01:33:14,010 --> 01:33:17,070
different people kind of have
versions of the script, or they

1643
01:33:17,070 --> 01:33:20,220
have their contacts or they
don't know, they're being fed a

1644
01:33:20,220 --> 01:33:25,980
script, and they are. But I
guess the New York Post is, is

1645
01:33:26,070 --> 01:33:28,950
the play this, this is the poor
guy who is accused of being the

1646
01:33:28,950 --> 01:33:32,610
bad man. And it seems to me that
then they there's a long story

1647
01:33:32,610 --> 01:33:35,730
about this guy, Molly pebble a
little bit about it. But the big

1648
01:33:35,730 --> 01:33:39,660
question is never asked, which
seems to me to be the question

1649
01:33:39,660 --> 01:33:40,500
that comes to mind.

1650
01:33:40,530 --> 01:33:43,950
They're gonna talk about who
they're looking for. And, and

1651
01:33:43,980 --> 01:33:44,400
exactly,

1652
01:33:44,849 --> 01:33:48,599
you're closed off script. Yeah.
Okay, play it.

1653
01:33:49,470 --> 01:33:51,570
Okay, I'll back it up. I had no
idea what's wrong,

1654
01:33:52,050 --> 01:33:54,900
happens. They're going to talk
about who they're looking for,

1655
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:58,380
and and exactly where this
investigation stands. And we're

1656
01:33:58,380 --> 01:34:00,450
gonna hold that and carry that
news conference live so nobody

1657
01:34:00,450 --> 01:34:03,870
else can miss a single
development. In this case, Janet

1658
01:34:03,870 --> 01:34:06,870
Napolitano was talking today
about all the various mistakes

1659
01:34:06,870 --> 01:34:10,560
that have been made in reporting
this story. Well, imagine being

1660
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:13,560
a 17 year old high school
student and seeing your picture

1661
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:17,580
on the cover of The New York
Post described as a bag man in

1662
01:34:17,580 --> 01:34:22,260
an article about the Marathon
Bombing Salop maroon did. You

1663
01:34:22,260 --> 01:34:25,350
saw the picture circled in red,
it was also all over social

1664
01:34:25,350 --> 01:34:29,490
media yesterday. But guess what?
He didn't do it. Now. The police

1665
01:34:29,490 --> 01:34:33,120
have cleared his name, which by
the way, didn't make his day any

1666
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:33,690
easier.

1667
01:34:34,980 --> 01:34:41,400
Everywhere I go, just like, I
just don't want to look at

1668
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:43,620
people. Because when they look
at me, they're gonna be like,

1669
01:34:43,650 --> 01:34:47,670
Oh, you just did this. How could
you do that? Why would you even

1670
01:34:47,670 --> 01:34:48,000
do that?

1671
01:34:50,100 --> 01:34:52,890
Yeah, now, because the little
that little clip at the end, by

1672
01:34:52,890 --> 01:34:55,680
the way is evergreen if you
think about it, yeah. Oh, yeah.

1673
01:34:55,710 --> 01:35:00,750
All right. Nobody ever asked if
he's gonna sue the paper. Oh no,

1674
01:35:00,900 --> 01:35:01,230
no, no

1675
01:35:02,490 --> 01:35:05,220
big time. No, this is America
you can turn that around into a

1676
01:35:05,220 --> 01:35:06,750
reality show and you can Nice.

1677
01:35:08,099 --> 01:35:09,749
Now that's the advice is getting

1678
01:35:10,049 --> 01:35:13,949
the last clip I want to play
which is the railroading clip is

1679
01:35:14,009 --> 01:35:17,129
I listened to this clip and one
of the things that you know we

1680
01:35:17,129 --> 01:35:20,069
get I think we've done a better
job of this over the years and

1681
01:35:20,069 --> 01:35:24,149
time as you start to you get the
the bigger picture from the

1682
01:35:24,149 --> 01:35:27,569
clip. You first just say this
clip is this is terrible what

1683
01:35:27,569 --> 01:35:29,519
they're doing to this woman,
this is how they're they're,

1684
01:35:29,849 --> 01:35:34,529
they're taking the wife of Tamar
lane, who's smokin hot, by the

1685
01:35:34,529 --> 01:35:38,999
way, she's very pretty. And they
discuss what problems she might

1686
01:35:38,999 --> 01:35:43,379
have in a legal sense. And when
I first heard the clip, I said

1687
01:35:43,379 --> 01:35:47,849
this is douchey. All we have is
ABC this ABC again, a it which

1688
01:35:47,849 --> 01:35:51,179
makes more sense when you think
about the interpretation of this

1689
01:35:51,179 --> 01:35:57,029
clip. ABC is going on what bad
things can happen to her if she

1690
01:35:57,029 --> 01:36:00,809
doesn't play ball. And I
realized that this is actually a

1691
01:36:00,809 --> 01:36:05,009
warning shot over the over the
bow to the to this woman

1692
01:36:05,009 --> 01:36:09,839
specifically to to not only not
play ball the way they're

1693
01:36:09,839 --> 01:36:14,339
talking about, but play ball the
way the script says. If you

1694
01:36:14,339 --> 01:36:16,499
listen to this, this is the
worst. This is the most

1695
01:36:16,499 --> 01:36:20,759
threatening, disgusting report
I've heard on ABC for a long

1696
01:36:20,759 --> 01:36:25,439
time. They they run this woman
as though she's a criminal and

1697
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:28,469
listen to this. And think about
how terrible it is that they're

1698
01:36:28,469 --> 01:36:29,399
doing this scene

1699
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:32,520
while her lawyer told The
Associated Press that she never

1700
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,580
suspected anything. And that in
fact, she learned that he was a

1701
01:36:35,580 --> 01:36:38,310
suspect by seeing it on TV,
Robin.

1702
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,130
All right to thank you. For more
we're gonna bring back our GMA,

1703
01:36:41,130 --> 01:36:43,800
Legal Analyst Dan Abrams, what
we know now about Katherine

1704
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:46,950
Russell is that she is not in
custody. So what does that tell

1705
01:36:46,950 --> 01:36:48,420
you how authorities view her

1706
01:36:48,450 --> 01:36:52,080
got nothing yet, because let's
even assume for a moment, we

1707
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:53,970
don't know this to be true.
Let's assume for a moment that

1708
01:36:53,970 --> 01:36:57,000
the authorities are suspicious
of her. They want to gather as

1709
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,850
much information as they can
first, if they take her into

1710
01:36:59,850 --> 01:37:02,940
custody, they then immediately
have to read her Miranda rights,

1711
01:37:02,940 --> 01:37:06,450
she becomes an official suspect
these kinds of rights kick in no

1712
01:37:06,450 --> 01:37:08,700
need to do that right now. They
want to gather as much

1713
01:37:08,700 --> 01:37:11,760
information as they can, at this
point before making a news and

1714
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:12,210
there's been no

1715
01:37:12,210 --> 01:37:16,680
evidence that she knew anything
about the bombings. If she did,

1716
01:37:16,710 --> 01:37:18,120
what the She fakes.

1717
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:22,980
Look, knowledge alone, typically
wouldn't be a serious crime. In

1718
01:37:22,980 --> 01:37:26,880
this case, the authorities would
figure out a way, either an

1719
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:30,960
accessory aiding and abetting,
at the very least, it is still a

1720
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:34,350
federal crime. If you know that
a felony, it's a crime that is

1721
01:37:34,350 --> 01:37:38,520
almost never used. But they
could charge her for actively

1722
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:42,330
concealing the crime. If she
knew about it had nothing to do

1723
01:37:42,330 --> 01:37:45,510
with it wasn't involved in it,
but concealed it, they could

1724
01:37:45,510 --> 01:37:48,630
charge her with that crime only
faces up to three years in

1725
01:37:48,630 --> 01:37:49,530
prison for something like that.

1726
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,620
What about spousal privilege,
even though her husband is dead,

1727
01:37:53,010 --> 01:37:53,820
she could still

1728
01:37:53,820 --> 01:37:57,990
say, I'm not going to disclose
confidential conversations that

1729
01:37:57,990 --> 01:38:01,110
my husband and I had while he
was alive. And she's allowed to

1730
01:38:01,110 --> 01:38:04,710
say that, and she's allowed to
not testify about those. But I

1731
01:38:04,710 --> 01:38:07,320
can assure you that if she says,
You know what, I'm going to

1732
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,690
invoke spousal privilege here.
The next thing the authorities

1733
01:38:09,690 --> 01:38:12,360
are gonna say is okay, no
problem. Here are the list of

1734
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:15,210
crimes that we're considering
charging you with aiding and

1735
01:38:15,210 --> 01:38:18,900
abetting accessory, they will
then add a long series of

1736
01:38:18,900 --> 01:38:21,720
crimes, which could be very,
very serious, some of them as

1737
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:25,080
serious as the crimes he's
facing. I think that these

1738
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:28,500
authorities are going to play a
sort of no nonsense with her if

1739
01:38:28,500 --> 01:38:31,110
they get that kind of response.
All right, Ken, thanks.

1740
01:38:32,340 --> 01:38:35,970
salutely Yeah, absolutely.
That's great. Okay, guys, great

1741
01:38:35,970 --> 01:38:38,190
analysis is disgusting.

1742
01:38:38,490 --> 01:38:41,040
That was that that was one of
the most disgusting things I've

1743
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:44,340
heard on the media for probably
the last two or three years and

1744
01:38:44,370 --> 01:38:49,050
and it was a threat. Yeah, it
was it was onerous. It was it

1745
01:38:49,050 --> 01:38:53,730
was implied implied there an
implications it was a disgusting

1746
01:38:53,730 --> 01:38:57,810
report ABC should be ashamed of
themselves for even running

1747
01:38:57,810 --> 01:39:00,450
anything like them when you
think about it. She's an idiot.

1748
01:39:00,450 --> 01:39:03,630
She's innocent until proven
guilty. They just made her a

1749
01:39:03,630 --> 01:39:04,530
guilty person on the

1750
01:39:04,530 --> 01:39:08,370
show, but they could easily say
and I would really appreciate it

1751
01:39:08,370 --> 01:39:10,680
if they did if they said you
know, there's this podcast

1752
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:14,760
called The no agenda show. And
these guys they predicted that

1753
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:18,300
something was going to happen.
So they they could be

1754
01:39:18,300 --> 01:39:21,750
accomplices they could be know
they had knowledge and they

1755
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:24,510
they knew something Yes, a
federal

1756
01:39:25,890 --> 01:39:27,420
federal crime. Yes, right.

1757
01:39:27,480 --> 01:39:33,060
They dare just just say that
they're married if they dare try

1758
01:39:33,090 --> 01:39:37,380
pulling that stunt Oh, no
married stunt. Oh, no. He's in

1759
01:39:37,380 --> 01:39:42,720
for big trouble. Anyway, that
message to her is this I hear

1760
01:39:42,750 --> 01:39:45,960
they play this just it looks to
everyone's in on this. You go,

1761
01:39:46,230 --> 01:39:48,990
you better go you do what we
tell you had to do and we're in

1762
01:39:48,990 --> 01:39:52,170
everybody's happy. So whatever
we get from her is going to be

1763
01:39:52,170 --> 01:39:56,670
meaningless. And they didn't use
her Muslim name. Interestingly

1764
01:39:56,670 --> 01:40:01,080
enough, which she supposedly has
now. What is your Muslim name I

1765
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:01,890
have no Muslim

1766
01:40:04,049 --> 01:40:05,549
Let's lighten the mood here a
little bit

1767
01:40:05,580 --> 01:40:15,390
Adams gonna read his email.
Adams gonna read his email read

1768
01:40:15,390 --> 01:40:19,710
his email on the no agenda

1769
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:27,810
we never got the name of the
school from the bullying email.

1770
01:40:29,730 --> 01:40:32,550
Oh yeah, we did. We did. Okay,
well you look that up and I'll

1771
01:40:32,550 --> 01:40:36,150
read the email actually have I
print out okay, I shall read the

1772
01:40:36,150 --> 01:40:39,600
email. We're not not reading his
name because he asked

1773
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:40,260
specifically

1774
01:40:40,260 --> 01:40:43,620
we're not gonna we i did i He
asked me if I was gonna say the

1775
01:40:43,620 --> 01:40:45,930
name as well I'm gonna look into
this a little more before I just

1776
01:40:46,290 --> 01:40:49,530
discuss the scope. I do have the
school's name and everything

1777
01:40:49,530 --> 01:40:51,360
okay, so I got most of that.
Hello,

1778
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:54,600
Adam and John. This was actually
not just Adams email, Adam and

1779
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:58,050
John Zina. I'm 16. And we had
asked me to solicited this type

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01:40:58,050 --> 01:41:01,110
of communication, right, we'd
like to have more by the way,

1781
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:04,320
especially 16 year olds who
listen to this program. This is

1782
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:10,590
a very, very good trend. We have
one Hello, Adam. This whole gap

1783
01:41:10,590 --> 01:41:13,440
we have like two year olds who
love who love are see something

1784
01:41:13,440 --> 01:41:18,720
say something jingles and milk,
dairy disturbing. And there's a

1785
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:22,500
whole bunch of nothing. So 16 is
kind of the sweet spot. Hello,

1786
01:41:22,500 --> 01:41:26,190
Adam and John. I'm 16. And at my
school, we have a day of silence

1787
01:41:26,370 --> 01:41:30,720
for victims of bullying. We are
asked to sign a contract to be

1788
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:35,550
silent for a whole day. We also
have random drug testing every

1789
01:41:35,550 --> 01:41:39,690
month. And up until the last up
until last every three months

1790
01:41:39,690 --> 01:41:42,960
while class was going on. We
would have an order over the

1791
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,110
school intercom also known as
the big void the giant voice

1792
01:41:46,110 --> 01:41:49,800
system training to take our
bookbags and put them in front

1793
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:53,130
of our lockers. When we arrive
back at class we were told by

1794
01:41:53,130 --> 01:41:57,330
our principal over the intercom
to go into a lockdown drill.

1795
01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:01,140
While we are hiding in the
corner of our classrooms, our

1796
01:42:01,140 --> 01:42:06,420
bags are being searched and
sniffed by drug dogs. This is

1797
01:42:07,170 --> 01:42:11,070
this is mind boggling to me that
this is happening in America

1798
01:42:11,070 --> 01:42:17,070
this level of slave training is
just beyond me.

1799
01:42:19,050 --> 01:42:23,820
Well, there's another I'm going
to combine that you have any

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01:42:23,820 --> 01:42:25,800
more email you want to read.
Yeah, I got a couple emails.

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01:42:25,830 --> 01:42:27,990
Okay, we'll finish that but I
went well, actually, before he

1802
01:42:27,990 --> 01:42:31,230
did. Let me let me interrupt
with and add a little to what

1803
01:42:31,230 --> 01:42:34,920
this guy said by playing this
clip. Because then I have a

1804
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:37,680
little bit of analysis after
you've played the bullet proof

1805
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:40,320
backpacks clip okie dokie.

1806
01:42:40,890 --> 01:42:44,010
Since the Sandy Hook tragedy
keeping children safe from gun

1807
01:42:44,010 --> 01:42:46,860
violence is top of mind for many
communities.

1808
01:42:47,070 --> 01:42:50,340
understandable but now there is
a controversial new option for

1809
01:42:50,340 --> 01:42:53,640
parents to consider bulletproof
backpacks for the kids.

1810
01:42:53,670 --> 01:42:56,340
Here's seven on your side's
Michael Finney with more on this

1811
01:42:56,340 --> 01:42:57,210
is really happening.

1812
01:42:57,330 --> 01:43:01,320
Yeah, binders of pencils and
rulers are on most factor school

1813
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:04,770
shopping lists. Now some parents
are adding bulletproof backpacks

1814
01:43:04,770 --> 01:43:11,400
but is pint size armour going to
fall. This is an ordinary school

1815
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:15,090
day for dimetric Boykin and his
four year old daughter Giulia.

1816
01:43:15,150 --> 01:43:18,600
So this is super woman's Cape
ordinary except for this brand

1817
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:22,530
new backpack, which is what it
looks despite the girly pink

1818
01:43:22,530 --> 01:43:25,560
fabric and pretty patterns
Adorning it. This backpack

1819
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:29,940
offers military grade protection
against bullets. It costs about

1820
01:43:29,940 --> 01:43:32,490
$300 and is made in Colombia.

1821
01:43:32,610 --> 01:43:36,330
If they were to come in your
classroom with any guns. You put

1822
01:43:36,330 --> 01:43:39,270
this on. And this would stop the
bullets.

1823
01:43:39,450 --> 01:43:41,730
The Boykins live in Aurora,
Colorado.

1824
01:43:41,820 --> 01:43:43,470
Oh, yeah,

1825
01:43:43,500 --> 01:43:45,780
I remember this a big thing when
that also

1826
01:43:45,780 --> 01:43:48,990
so we got the kid with the
lockdown drills and all the rest

1827
01:43:48,990 --> 01:43:50,970
of the 16 year old the high
school and then we have the

1828
01:43:50,970 --> 01:43:54,900
terrorizing this little girl
who's actually kind of blase

1829
01:43:54,900 --> 01:43:59,760
about it. This is very much to
me, I think an extension. And I

1830
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:02,070
think it's been going on in
different forms. But they I

1831
01:44:02,070 --> 01:44:06,060
think they're revisiting the
50s, where they terrorize the

1832
01:44:06,060 --> 01:44:10,800
kids with duck and cover, duck
and cover and a bomb air raids

1833
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,410
and had the sirens going off.
And sirens still goes off every

1834
01:44:13,410 --> 01:44:17,730
Friday in San Francisco, the air
raid siren, giant voice system

1835
01:44:17,820 --> 01:44:20,730
that and the giant voice system.
And all this is in the giant

1836
01:44:20,730 --> 01:44:23,640
voices. And I think it's part of
the same argument that they're

1837
01:44:23,790 --> 01:44:28,860
putting the kids the students,
especially into a state of

1838
01:44:28,860 --> 01:44:32,460
terror, yes, the same way they
did to because it's a great

1839
01:44:32,460 --> 01:44:36,420
control mechanism. Although I
think, you know, the results of

1840
01:44:36,420 --> 01:44:40,800
the 50s duck cover stuff turned
out to be the 60s, which was the

1841
01:44:40,830 --> 01:44:43,740
you know, the protests and the
anti war and all the rest. So

1842
01:44:43,740 --> 01:44:46,440
they may be, you know, they may
be barking up the wrong tree

1843
01:44:46,440 --> 01:44:49,770
with this, this this technique?
Well, I think at some point

1844
01:44:49,770 --> 01:44:53,130
people get, they see through it,
but whatever the case is, this

1845
01:44:53,130 --> 01:44:57,000
is a disgusting trend. And this
kid in his high school, the 16

1846
01:44:57,030 --> 01:45:01,260
or 16 year old contact, it's
really Siculus and the fact that

1847
01:45:01,260 --> 01:45:04,290
this isn't being discussed more
is beyond me.

1848
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:08,790
Well, this brings me to a very,
very nice segue upon you based

1849
01:45:08,790 --> 01:45:12,090
upon your recommendation. And
you only have to say it to me

1850
01:45:12,090 --> 01:45:18,180
once I read Michael Crighton
state of fear. And the e book of

1851
01:45:18,180 --> 01:45:24,450
state of fear, I purchased it on
Kindle has three transcripts of

1852
01:45:24,450 --> 01:45:30,090
three of his speeches that he
did at various universities. And

1853
01:45:30,150 --> 01:45:35,790
these are so good the speeches,
and where he literally refers to

1854
01:45:36,990 --> 01:45:39,270
the duck and cover because he
was a child of the duck and

1855
01:45:39,270 --> 01:45:45,330
cover era. Or so he states. He
was Yeah. And so he and he talks

1856
01:45:45,330 --> 01:45:48,600
about the nuclear winter that
was supposed to kill us and you

1857
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:54,270
know, the fires. Remember the
fires of, of Kuwait and Iraq in

1858
01:45:54,270 --> 01:45:55,020
the early 90s?

1859
01:45:55,230 --> 01:45:57,990
That was Carl Sagan or Carl
Sagan,

1860
01:45:57,990 --> 01:46:00,270
the great scientist. Yes,

1861
01:46:00,330 --> 01:46:03,330
it's going to create a nuclear
winter because the spelling and

1862
01:46:03,990 --> 01:46:06,540
I remember watching this on
television, as Sagan went on

1863
01:46:06,540 --> 01:46:10,320
with this bullcrap. Yeah. The
great Sagan. Yeah. And he's

1864
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:12,990
supposedly a physicist, I guess,
on top of his astronomy,

1865
01:46:13,170 --> 01:46:15,600
whatever the case was the Holy
John, he's holy,

1866
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:19,260
you cannot go Holy, holy, holy,
you cannot go anywhere. Like you

1867
01:46:19,260 --> 01:46:21,630
cannot go on This Week in tech
and say the guy was full of

1868
01:46:21,630 --> 01:46:23,550
crap. You can't get banned.

1869
01:46:23,610 --> 01:46:26,940
You get a bunch of flack. Yeah.
Which is the way this works.

1870
01:46:26,940 --> 01:46:31,710
Yeah. And then then Creighton
discusses this. So let me finish

1871
01:46:31,710 --> 01:46:34,950
this thing. So anyway, I watched
this. And then they one of the

1872
01:46:34,950 --> 01:46:39,180
news outlets brought on some
real physicists with a computer

1873
01:46:39,180 --> 01:46:43,710
model. And the guy comes on he
says, this is total bull crap.

1874
01:46:43,860 --> 01:46:47,580
There's no way under any
circumstances that that smoke

1875
01:46:47,580 --> 01:46:51,120
and get to this level. By
anybody's calculations, he's

1876
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,610
obviously he doesn't know what
he's talking about. And

1877
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:57,540
this guy gets scolded as as an
idiot, a denier? A pseudo

1878
01:46:57,540 --> 01:47:04,230
scientist. Nope. Okay. So this
book is so good. And it goes

1879
01:47:04,740 --> 01:47:07,170
right into, and I'm just going
to spoil some of it for you

1880
01:47:07,170 --> 01:47:10,170
right away, just because it is
you have when you don't have to

1881
01:47:10,170 --> 01:47:14,130
read the book. In fact, when we
have our little to show

1882
01:47:14,130 --> 01:47:16,170
vacation, we're not actually
going to go on vacation, we are

1883
01:47:16,170 --> 01:47:18,780
going to have some stuff for
you. I'm going to do at least

1884
01:47:18,780 --> 01:47:22,830
one reading of one of these
Michael Crighton speeches

1885
01:47:22,830 --> 01:47:27,090
because it is so powerful and so
good. And you can Michael

1886
01:47:27,090 --> 01:47:30,600
Creighton was a he's a hero to
many, many science, science

1887
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:33,930
nerds, which of course, is why
they hated him so much when he

1888
01:47:33,930 --> 01:47:37,380
came out with this book. And the
book is great, because it has

1889
01:47:37,590 --> 01:47:41,100
all the statistics, and all of
the graphs and all the charts

1890
01:47:41,100 --> 01:47:45,300
that he refers to in this
fictional story, are the actual

1891
01:47:45,420 --> 01:47:49,380
charts and is the actual data he
has footnotes to everything. You

1892
01:47:49,380 --> 01:47:54,870
know, so it really is the true
facts of the global warming

1893
01:47:54,870 --> 01:47:58,380
slash climate change a hoax.
Which is it? I mean, so this

1894
01:47:58,380 --> 01:48:04,620
whole story, even has these nut
jobs, exploding pieces of

1895
01:48:04,650 --> 01:48:08,910
iceberg to get it to drop off at
the moment of a an abrupt

1896
01:48:08,910 --> 01:48:12,660
climate change conference. I
mean, it's so beautifully done.

1897
01:48:12,930 --> 01:48:16,020
No wonder they had to kill them
in 2008. I mean, it's so

1898
01:48:16,050 --> 01:48:19,590
obvious. And they did. And this
is so good. I ended that we said

1899
01:48:19,590 --> 01:48:22,830
we had and I need to talk to you
about this after the show. We

1900
01:48:22,830 --> 01:48:25,920
have a dinner party here. So
it's the brain scientist and his

1901
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:32,160
lovely wife. And it's Laurie
Frick, the transhumanist

1902
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:37,920
transhumanist artist, and her
husband Mark and then he's a

1903
01:48:37,950 --> 01:48:40,830
accountant, but he's like a cool
accountant. Rock and roll

1904
01:48:40,830 --> 01:48:44,340
account. And I have to cook. So
I'm gonna need some help with

1905
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:46,560
with that because now I'm
cooking for six people and I'm

1906
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:50,970
very worried. So it's no big
deal. But I'm thinking during

1907
01:48:50,970 --> 01:48:54,510
dinner, I'm going to do a
reading from the book. Because

1908
01:48:54,510 --> 01:48:57,450
you know that these are all like
Obama bots. This is perfect. I

1909
01:48:57,450 --> 01:48:59,280
just like to do a little reading
from microcredit. You've heard

1910
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:01,410
of microcredit? Did you enjoy
Jurassic Park? Did you like

1911
01:49:01,410 --> 01:49:02,070
that? Yeah. was great.

1912
01:49:02,340 --> 01:49:07,680
Let me see arms folded. My
prediction red book

1913
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:09,750
will be folded.

1914
01:49:13,980 --> 01:49:17,520
mentioned this to miss Mickey.
And she's like, No, please. No.

1915
01:49:18,420 --> 01:49:21,540
Don't do that. Because I like
these. They're very kind. I like

1916
01:49:21,540 --> 01:49:25,290
him a lot. But it's just like I
think smoke will come out of

1917
01:49:25,290 --> 01:49:30,780
their offices. Anyway, so yeah,
you'll help me with the with a

1918
01:49:30,780 --> 01:49:33,390
cooking for six people because
I'm so worried about this. I'm

1919
01:49:33,390 --> 01:49:36,750
very worried. All right, two
more quick emails. Dear Adam, I

1920
01:49:36,750 --> 01:49:41,040
just finished listening to the
last episode of no agenda. I

1921
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:43,110
really liked your analysis
overall, but I think you missed

1922
01:49:43,110 --> 01:49:46,200
the most important point on the
forget your password initiative.

1923
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:48,600
The reason why the government is
pushing is they have all your

1924
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:51,630
biometrical information of
course, I think we know that.

1925
01:49:51,930 --> 01:49:54,390
When you get a new passport, for
example. They say they have

1926
01:49:54,390 --> 01:49:56,400
biometrical picture in your
fingerprints, at least here in

1927
01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:59,370
Germany. This is from John Jacob
from one of our German

1928
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,720
supporters but here's the part
that I wanted to read. I came up

1929
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:07,230
with a new way to save money to
donate to no agenda. He says

1930
01:50:07,230 --> 01:50:13,590
that everybody can do it. There
is no excuse. donate blood. Your

1931
01:50:13,710 --> 01:50:16,410
you can only do it every two
months, but they give you 25

1932
01:50:16,410 --> 01:50:19,380
euros here in Germany. I know
it's not much but hey, it's all

1933
01:50:19,380 --> 01:50:23,460
I can do. I think this is an
outstanding idea.

1934
01:50:26,130 --> 01:50:27,270
Blood no agenda.

1935
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:30,810
I think you should. You
shouldn't be donating blood

1936
01:50:31,170 --> 01:50:32,310
and plasma.

1937
01:50:34,980 --> 01:50:40,980
I like that idea so much. And
and then this is X impulse in

1938
01:50:40,980 --> 01:50:44,610
the chat room. He's very upset
about the donation we keep

1939
01:50:44,610 --> 01:50:49,320
getting from Jeremy Fock.
Remember Jeremy Falk that he's

1940
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:54,120
the guy that was he I guess he
works for Robert Gao. And that

1941
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:58,320
he has the near the Hacienda
there and like the

1942
01:50:58,590 --> 01:51:00,960
Oh, right, right, right. He's
got the hacienda. He's got the

1943
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:02,430
place we can go visit. Yeah. And

1944
01:51:02,430 --> 01:51:07,410
so the X impulse in the chat
room was saying, dude, this guy

1945
01:51:07,410 --> 01:51:14,010
is 100% evil. He says you can't
be accepting donation from him.

1946
01:51:14,460 --> 01:51:17,130
In fact, he says and this is why
this is why I wanted to read

1947
01:51:17,130 --> 01:51:20,760
this. Sorry, Adam, but Gao,
Robert Gao, Robert Gao used to

1948
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:24,180
runs a Patta which was George W.
Bush's fake oil company. So

1949
01:51:24,180 --> 01:51:28,290
that's how you know this somehow
this you know, this Falk works

1950
01:51:28,290 --> 01:51:32,550
for him. And therefore his his
money's no, good. He's so x

1951
01:51:32,550 --> 01:51:35,010
impulses. I know it's a
donation. But would you accept

1952
01:51:35,010 --> 01:51:38,460
the donation from let's say, the
Koch brothers or Michael Eisner

1953
01:51:38,460 --> 01:51:42,930
or David Petraeus? So let me
answer that. Yes. Yeah. Are you

1954
01:51:42,930 --> 01:51:43,680
kidding me?

1955
01:51:43,889 --> 01:51:49,109
That's a go off and be your own
idealist? I mean, yes, we're

1956
01:51:49,109 --> 01:51:52,169
listener supported if the Koch
brothers want to give us money,

1957
01:51:52,169 --> 01:51:55,199
we'll take it to change our
coverage. No, it's not going

1958
01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:57,960
to change our point of view or
anything like that. This is

1959
01:51:58,110 --> 01:51:59,640
that's total. That's crazy

1960
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:03,510
to us on the air longer. It's
crazy. That Yeah, and

1961
01:52:03,510 --> 01:52:07,500
you know, and I'm like, I'm
disappointed that the FOC Jeremy

1962
01:52:07,500 --> 01:52:10,830
Falk hasn't told us you know,
hasn't, you know, sent me an

1963
01:52:10,830 --> 01:52:15,300
email said, Hey, here's, here's
what's going on. Now. To me, we

1964
01:52:15,300 --> 01:52:20,880
have people in military in FBI,
CIA, CDC, NSA, I mean, I have

1965
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:25,140
here to, to challenge coins from
the NSA 60th anniversary, John

1966
01:52:25,980 --> 01:52:30,630
mill. Now to from anonymous from
Maryland. I have a couple of

1967
01:52:30,660 --> 01:52:34,590
cool, you know, and we have
people working at the drone

1968
01:52:34,590 --> 01:52:38,430
program, we have people working
everywhere, in, in, in horrible

1969
01:52:38,430 --> 01:52:42,270
places. And the reason why they
donate is so that they can first

1970
01:52:42,270 --> 01:52:46,200
of all, fue I think I'm I'm just
guessing, they feel better about

1971
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,270
themselves knowing that there
are people out there who

1972
01:52:48,270 --> 01:52:53,730
understand and and commiserate.
And, and, and it feels good for

1973
01:52:53,730 --> 01:52:58,800
them to help to help us. Let
people know what's really going

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01:52:58,800 --> 01:52:59,160
on.

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01:52:59,820 --> 01:53:02,940
And by the way, you're talking
about the coins. I never

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01:53:02,940 --> 01:53:08,910
realized there's there's a verb
in here on the coin. Yeah, let

1977
01:53:08,910 --> 01:53:13,140
me read you from an Air Force
Reserve Command website. And

1978
01:53:13,140 --> 01:53:15,360
this was the topic I was
thinking to try and bring in at

1979
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:18,330
some point, which is the reserve
bomber crew that participates in

1980
01:53:18,330 --> 01:53:23,220
the first nuclear exercise. You
know about the 307 Bomb Wing?

1981
01:53:23,220 --> 01:53:26,880
Yeah, yeah, they're practicing
some sort of exercise that drop

1982
01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:29,460
a nuke and this is the first
time I guess nationally so like

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01:53:30,150 --> 01:53:37,320
it's a this group I guess the
reservists the first 3343 Bomb

1984
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:40,920
squadron participating in a new
nuclear exercise after becoming

1985
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:44,280
the first Air Force Reserve
squadron to receive that

1986
01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:49,470
certification. Which tells you
something something's up but

1987
01:53:49,470 --> 01:53:52,590
whatever the case is the
pictures captioned Air Force

1988
01:53:52,590 --> 01:53:58,110
Colonel Jonathan Ellis 307
Bomber Wing Commander coins Oh

1989
01:53:58,140 --> 01:54:03,720
air crew prior to their leaving
Arsdale Air Force Base. And I

1990
01:54:03,750 --> 01:54:07,620
believe that most people who
read this would say what does

1991
01:54:07,620 --> 01:54:09,150
that mean coins?

1992
01:54:10,140 --> 01:54:10,950
Well, we know

1993
01:54:11,099 --> 01:54:14,309
apparently gave them all a coin
commemorate this event.

1994
01:54:14,550 --> 01:54:18,000
I'm looking at these at these
challenge coins. And there's

1995
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:19,350
four diamonds in it.

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01:54:20,219 --> 01:54:23,819
Real diamonds that could die
that real diamonds obviously be

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01:54:23,849 --> 01:54:27,389
diamonique their little stones
Yeah.

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01:54:27,870 --> 01:54:31,440
If you Google NSA challenge coin
you can i It's the 60 years of

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01:54:31,440 --> 01:54:40,410
excellence coin. You see it's
also available on eBay. Yeah,

2000
01:54:40,410 --> 01:54:43,500
defending our nation is in
between two little diamond geeks

2001
01:54:43,530 --> 01:54:47,010
and securing the future. It's
very pretty.

2002
01:54:47,460 --> 01:54:51,420
And it's a commemorative coin
eBay. Yeah, there it is. You see

2003
01:54:51,420 --> 01:54:57,840
it you see for 15 bucks there it
is.

2004
01:54:58,710 --> 01:55:02,010
I'm gonna show my some old bye
donating to no agenda. Imagine

2005
01:55:02,010 --> 01:55:03,540
all the people who could do with
us.

2006
01:55:03,630 --> 01:55:04,740
Oh yeah, that'd be fun for

2007
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:16,080
us some people to thank. Besides
the NSA Steve bottoms in Reno,

2008
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:22,080
Nevada 121 19 Sunday supporter
checking in with a combination

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01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:24,240
6969 5150

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01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:28,050
Cool. All right. That's it. I
didn't I was not expecting that.

2011
01:55:28,230 --> 01:55:35,130
Eric Herschel I think, in Berlin
102 Heather Aronson, Dame

2012
01:55:35,130 --> 01:55:36,660
Heather actually in San
Francisco. We're here in San

2013
01:55:36,660 --> 01:55:43,890
Francisco 100. She said she's
weighed she's counting on her

2014
01:55:43,890 --> 01:55:48,270
last donation to verify Dame
hood. I thought she redeemed her

2015
01:55:48,270 --> 01:55:52,290
already. Um, we'll deal with
that word before the Thursday

2016
01:55:52,290 --> 01:55:54,840
show. We have more time here at
Heather. If you haven't been

2017
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:58,200
day, I thought we ought to look
it up. Greg squarely in Los

2018
01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:03,300
Angeles, California 9135 with a
picture of a squirrel, Eric

2019
01:56:03,300 --> 01:56:10,260
Henry Lakeland, Florida 8888 I
want to read guardians of

2020
01:56:10,260 --> 01:56:15,270
reality please pour forth from
your overflowing cup. He'd like

2021
01:56:15,270 --> 01:56:18,840
to get a job as karma with the
Pelosi clip for his wife Krista

2022
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:21,360
she's got an interview coming up
Valley for Valley when she gets

2023
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:23,670
the job he'll double the
donation and welcome all the

2024
01:56:23,670 --> 01:56:26,400
nights around Orlando for the
some tuna Allah King.

2025
01:56:26,969 --> 01:56:35,279
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
vote for jobs. Karma

2026
01:56:35,309 --> 01:56:36,569
your search result

2027
01:56:36,570 --> 01:56:41,490
listeners to go back and listen
to to 68 to 69. Grab your lawn.

2028
01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:50,700
I kind of enjoy saying rub your
lawn in Tel Aviv 6970. He says

2029
01:56:52,140 --> 01:56:54,240
he liked to celebrate his
birthday. Do we have him on the

2030
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:59,190
list? Yes, I believe we do. It's
69 Seven. He says we don't have

2031
01:56:59,220 --> 01:57:03,120
great. Very close to knighthood.
Be glad you can plug my little

2032
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:09,240
Professor app for Android and so
check that out. The Duke Grand

2033
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:13,050
Duke Vaughn Verrett. Steven
Pels, mockers

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01:57:13,230 --> 01:57:15,480
6969

2035
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:20,160
And he actually wants some
specific Carmen anytime he asked

2036
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:21,600
for it. We must deliver course.

2037
01:57:21,870 --> 01:57:26,100
What does he want? Just walk on?
Oh, he needs actual swap. This

2038
01:57:26,100 --> 01:57:31,860
is the post divorce. Please post
divorce. Get me laid karma.

2039
01:57:31,860 --> 01:57:36,630
Yeah. Yeah, it's got karma. I
wish the rain stick was you know

2040
01:57:36,630 --> 01:57:40,110
that. That was enough karma was
effective as the rain stick.

2041
01:57:40,830 --> 01:57:42,030
That that works like a

2042
01:57:42,270 --> 01:57:50,760
John noon in Bettendorf. Iowa.
6969. He has a he wants to D

2043
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:54,000
douching. Because he got duped
by his fiancee, Amy.

2044
01:57:54,060 --> 01:57:59,190
Oh, that's no good. You've been
de deuced.

2045
01:58:01,140 --> 01:58:07,470
John Noonan, again in
Bettendorf? She came in twice, I

2046
01:58:07,470 --> 01:58:11,370
guess. Okay, that's my goal
Callahan, Michael D. Callahan

2047
01:58:11,370 --> 01:58:18,600
and St. Anthony Minnesota nuts.
696 69.

2048
01:58:19,980 --> 01:58:20,820
Close call.

2049
01:58:21,209 --> 01:58:24,569
It was a close but it wasn't as
bad as the one. Chris ball in

2050
01:58:24,569 --> 01:58:31,169
Chicago, Illinois. 5555. Vaughn
leach Gah, in Salem, Oregon,

2051
01:58:31,199 --> 01:58:35,519
Salem, don't inhale and 55. Your
show is defined by information

2052
01:58:35,519 --> 01:58:37,709
and the listeners who leverage
that information example I

2053
01:58:37,709 --> 01:58:39,779
dropped some knowledge on a few
friends that was derived from

2054
01:58:39,779 --> 01:58:43,949
the no agenda show and they
replied, I never heard of that.

2055
01:58:44,789 --> 01:58:48,359
To which I responded and you
never will unless you listen to

2056
01:58:48,359 --> 01:58:53,459
the no agenda show. Or the
slogan stop hearing and start

2057
01:58:53,459 --> 01:58:59,249
listening to the no agenda show.
Okay. Paul Lyon in Slidell,

2058
01:58:59,249 --> 01:59:07,349
Louisiana 5333 He needs the
denona the de douching van de

2059
01:59:07,349 --> 01:59:13,589
swooshed was called out the bear
or the Grand Duke is back with

2060
01:59:13,589 --> 01:59:17,309
5070 A smallest show titled
donation his expenses are

2061
01:59:17,309 --> 01:59:20,579
currently high buy new furniture
is getting a new castle after

2062
01:59:20,579 --> 01:59:23,879
being overtaken on a Belgian
highway buy a Range Rover with

2063
01:59:23,879 --> 01:59:28,109
Texas plates. I knew that karma
was telling he sent me

2064
01:59:28,110 --> 01:59:31,560
an email he could not believe it
that a Range Rover blew by him

2065
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:36,630
on the on the on the highway in
the protector of Belgium and it

2066
01:59:36,630 --> 01:59:37,620
had Texas plates.

2067
01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:42,420
Well, that's probably your old
Range Rover. No, do I have it

2068
01:59:42,420 --> 01:59:42,900
anymore? I

2069
01:59:42,900 --> 01:59:47,910
do. I contacted a group who were
supposed to pick it up and give

2070
01:59:47,910 --> 01:59:50,790
me the tax write off. It's
sitting here. The tires are

2071
01:59:50,790 --> 01:59:53,580
slowly deflating. He still had
the big lemon on the side of it.

2072
01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:56,370
It's it's underneath the oh, I
should take a picture of this

2073
01:59:56,370 --> 01:59:58,590
thing. It's really sad. It's
under the oak tree.

2074
01:59:58,800 --> 02:00:03,150
So it's terrible. Just filled
with goop Brandon arching bowl

2075
02:00:03,330 --> 02:00:10,470
bolt bolt bolt bolt in Bismarck
North Dakota 50 Ben Dover

2076
02:00:10,470 --> 02:00:16,350
please. Really? It It comes as
his Pay Pal a name that's Brian

2077
02:00:16,350 --> 02:00:24,570
Dover okay 50 Peter Sir Peter
toe tastes 50 bucks do Joakim to

2078
02:00:24,570 --> 02:00:31,890
HAR in Denver in the hog and yes
50 And Chef shad rich and

2079
02:00:31,890 --> 02:00:36,570
Seattle, Washington and also
Kevin Ayers and well no Kevin's

2080
02:00:36,570 --> 02:00:37,080
not in

2081
02:00:38,610 --> 02:00:40,320
wishes Alaska Thanks anyway
though.

2082
02:00:41,670 --> 02:00:47,010
No, okay. Right. We have that
was our contributors, producers

2083
02:00:47,010 --> 02:00:49,650
for show for 5068.

2084
02:00:50,520 --> 02:00:54,630
So So now now let me just give
you an example of why it's great

2085
02:00:54,630 --> 02:00:57,270
that we're listener supported
show and we really need a little

2086
02:00:57,270 --> 02:01:00,810
more help for Thursday Sunday's
are traditionally always down.

2087
02:01:01,110 --> 02:01:03,900
It's a little bit more than most
luckily we you know, we see

2088
02:01:03,900 --> 02:01:06,180
people like the bear it's
usually it's always the nights

2089
02:01:06,180 --> 02:01:10,200
and it's the periods that shows
up. But you know, new people if

2090
02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:12,600
you're, you know, been listening
for a while, consider supporting

2091
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:16,050
the program, just consider
getting on a monthly. It really

2092
02:01:16,050 --> 02:01:20,670
does help us out and I'll tell
you why. Here's what happens

2093
02:01:20,670 --> 02:01:27,180
when you have a commercial news
program. Now we saw on the

2094
02:01:27,180 --> 02:01:31,680
compromised ABC on Thursday, we
talked about their Taco Bell.

2095
02:01:32,970 --> 02:01:37,080
Just blatant advertisement for
Taco Bell, where they

2096
02:01:37,080 --> 02:01:42,240
interviewed with the CEO about
how awesome their campaign is.

2097
02:01:42,240 --> 02:01:45,450
And we've seen CNN doing
stories.

2098
02:01:45,690 --> 02:01:48,780
Their new products are in cancer
streaming. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh,

2099
02:01:48,780 --> 02:01:49,320
we love

2100
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:52,500
the Taco Bells. And you remember
CNN they had, you know, the

2101
02:01:52,500 --> 02:01:55,020
whole morning segment. Wow,
it's, you know, Taco Bell was

2102
02:01:55,020 --> 02:01:58,680
going healthy. I mean, wow, this
is so newsworthy. So Rock

2103
02:01:58,680 --> 02:02:02,850
Center, with Brian Williams,
rock centers, Brian Williams had

2104
02:02:02,850 --> 02:02:10,530
a one minute piece with Chelsea
Clinton interviewing the Geico

2105
02:02:10,530 --> 02:02:14,580
Gecko. On the news,

2106
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:16,320
you're kidding. Here it is.

2107
02:02:22,140 --> 02:02:25,410
Hi, Gecko. Thanks so much for
answering our questions. Oh,

2108
02:02:25,410 --> 02:02:28,320
thank you, Chelsea. Sorry, I
couldn't be there in person. But

2109
02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:31,560
I'm out in the road promoting my
new book, your only human

2110
02:02:32,340 --> 02:02:33,360
shameless plug there.

2111
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:37,230
I completely understand. Now
Gekko. Do people

2112
02:02:37,230 --> 02:02:40,290
recognize you on the street?
Actually, Chelsea. I mean,

2113
02:02:40,290 --> 02:02:42,600
people don't usually notice me
on the street, because I'm only

2114
02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:45,840
6.9 inches tall. I spend most of
my time just try not to get

2115
02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:48,720
stepped on. But I do get better
tables at restaurants and I used

2116
02:02:48,720 --> 02:02:49,860
to. Is there a

2117
02:02:49,860 --> 02:02:52,410
downside to all this fame? Well,
I

2118
02:02:52,410 --> 02:02:55,050
think the more famous you are,
the more likely someone is to

2119
02:02:55,050 --> 02:02:59,790
dig up your old yearbook photos.
And look what we dug up. Oh,

2120
02:02:59,790 --> 02:03:02,970
you're showing this on?
Seriously kills you awful. We

2121
02:03:02,970 --> 02:03:05,550
were friends. Oh, no, I'm gonna
remember this.

2122
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:09,000
I just couldn't resist. Well,
it's been great talking with

2123
02:03:09,000 --> 02:03:11,520
you. And I wish you the best of
luck on your book tour.

2124
02:03:11,730 --> 02:03:14,400
Oh, thank you, Chelsea. No, it's
been great chatting with you.

2125
02:03:14,820 --> 02:03:15,330
Cheers.

2126
02:03:18,060 --> 02:03:19,080
Is that disgusting or

2127
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:23,190
what? All right, well, you have
to assume that it was a paid

2128
02:03:23,220 --> 02:03:27,630
advertisement is your think, one
minute paid advertisement, which

2129
02:03:27,630 --> 02:03:32,430
means Chelsea Clinton's already
corrupt. But it wasn't presented

2130
02:03:32,430 --> 02:03:37,740
as such. It was presented as as,
as you can't call the editorial

2131
02:03:37,740 --> 02:03:41,790
was presented as content. I
think this is going to because

2132
02:03:41,790 --> 02:03:45,990
of the nature of what's
happening to the media, and the

2133
02:03:46,020 --> 02:03:50,640
DVR with the DVRs and the on
demand and the Netflix and all

2134
02:03:50,640 --> 02:03:54,030
the rest. I think this is all
we're going to see. I think

2135
02:03:54,030 --> 02:03:57,000
they're just experimenting right
now. I think the taco bell thing

2136
02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:57,990
was the which was

2137
02:03:58,200 --> 02:04:02,070
eight minutes. It was the most
disgusting we've ever seen.

2138
02:04:02,730 --> 02:04:06,120
That had to be paid for.
Although I think it's this week.

2139
02:04:06,120 --> 02:04:10,680
Good. Yeah. But it's one it's an
inch away from just being here's

2140
02:04:10,680 --> 02:04:14,790
his check, Dude, give us a
piece. So all these places are

2141
02:04:14,820 --> 02:04:17,970
essentially corrupt already. And
which we've been proven week

2142
02:04:17,970 --> 02:04:22,680
after week for I don't know
years. But that's terrible. So

2143
02:04:22,710 --> 02:04:24,750
yeah, well, we could be doing
that though. Did you? How

2144
02:04:24,750 --> 02:04:26,040
did Brian come out of that?

2145
02:04:26,070 --> 02:04:28,860
No, I don't have that. I think
it went straight into

2146
02:04:28,860 --> 02:04:33,450
commercial. Probably a GEICO
commercial. By the way, I want

2147
02:04:33,450 --> 02:04:40,200
to I want to say in the morning
to yo him tear har because Miss

2148
02:04:40,200 --> 02:04:46,020
Mickey just sent me a text. You
know he donated 50 to $50. So

2149
02:04:46,020 --> 02:04:51,870
he's, like family. Just wanted
to say in the morning to him.

2150
02:04:54,420 --> 02:04:55,920
Your family isn't donating as it

2151
02:04:57,480 --> 02:05:01,590
they're donating their time and
effort. and all of their love

2152
02:05:01,650 --> 02:05:04,230
donates quite a bit from the no
agenda nation show.

2153
02:05:04,559 --> 02:05:07,439
Yeah, he does. He does a lot.
How about those bags? We had

2154
02:05:07,439 --> 02:05:08,939
like a weird meeting on email.

2155
02:05:09,719 --> 02:05:12,509
The bags are gonna be approved
once I get my hands on the bag

2156
02:05:12,509 --> 02:05:15,209
and the bag that he wants to use
and then it's gonna go out it's

2157
02:05:15,209 --> 02:05:18,869
gonna be said it's gonna say bag
33 It's a Thorin arch. I believe

2158
02:05:19,079 --> 02:05:22,979
it is. And Doron gave us the
original with in bigger, you

2159
02:05:22,979 --> 02:05:25,379
know, so we could actually make
it into a screen and it's gonna

2160
02:05:25,379 --> 02:05:28,979
say back 33 no agenda show.com
Instead of just no agenda show

2161
02:05:29,369 --> 02:05:31,199
and then it's gonna have some in
the morning or some

2162
02:05:32,040 --> 02:05:35,010
one of these days I'm going to
bundle all of the emails that

2163
02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:38,760
Eric Michelle sends to you and
copies me on and publish them

2164
02:05:40,680 --> 02:05:41,280
Need I say

2165
02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:43,110
more? It'd be worth money Yeah

2166
02:05:43,500 --> 02:05:48,900
devora.org/n A people we can
really use it

2167
02:05:54,540 --> 02:05:56,790
real short for today, but of
course we'll play the jingle

2168
02:05:56,790 --> 02:05:59,760
regardless. Grab your lawn
congratulates himself on his

2169
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:02,640
birthday there Israel and we say
happy birthday from all your

2170
02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:09,180
buddies here at the no agenda
show. And we have one knighting

2171
02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:16,560
and a title. And the title is,
this is from Serge gene. He has

2172
02:06:16,560 --> 02:06:18,930
chosen his title when we had
this whole conversation about

2173
02:06:18,930 --> 02:06:21,660
the sheriff and everything John
and you as a peerage officer

2174
02:06:21,660 --> 02:06:25,500
have approved. He said we have
this title, which he would

2175
02:06:25,830 --> 02:06:29,820
respectfully wants it done
properly. Surging Baron de

2176
02:06:29,820 --> 02:06:32,880
Marriott Sheriff protector of
chaos.

2177
02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:35,160
Sounds reasonable.

2178
02:06:35,429 --> 02:06:39,089
He is the Baron of the Marriott,
the Marriott he's I think he

2179
02:06:39,089 --> 02:06:40,709
stays at most of the Marriott

2180
02:06:41,070 --> 02:06:43,380
he gets a lot of points maybe
get some extra points.

2181
02:06:43,410 --> 02:06:46,140
Well remember when we were on
the Hot Pockets tour? We he put

2182
02:06:46,140 --> 02:06:47,940
us up in the Marriott on his
points.

2183
02:06:48,570 --> 02:06:51,720
Oh, yes, the points guy. There's
a lot of people that just they

2184
02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:55,320
travel, and they're just a real
dedicated to these points. So

2185
02:06:55,320 --> 02:06:58,710
they'll stay at one hotel chain,
and then marry that's one of the

2186
02:06:58,710 --> 02:07:01,620
ones they stay at. Yeah, it must
have a good program.

2187
02:07:01,650 --> 02:07:06,060
Yeah, they do. Worldwide. I'm
sure it's pretty good. Let's see

2188
02:07:06,060 --> 02:07:06,330
actually,

2189
02:07:06,330 --> 02:07:09,720
if you go into Oh, nevermind.
Let me just do this first and

2190
02:07:09,720 --> 02:07:10,980
I'll tell you my story. Okay.

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Please, please, please, please
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to work that org slash na. So
the Marriott, the Marriott,

2206
02:08:07,320 --> 02:08:10,980
which is kind of like a middle
in hotel chain, it seems to me

2207
02:08:11,460 --> 02:08:17,040
in the US is like top drawer in
Asia. I mean, if you go to the

2208
02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:22,290
Marriott in Singapore, or the JW
Marriott in Singapore, these

2209
02:08:22,290 --> 02:08:25,800
places that in Europe or in
Asia, they're dynamite. They're

2210
02:08:25,800 --> 02:08:27,960
building a new one here in
Austin, which is going to be

2211
02:08:27,960 --> 02:08:28,620
huge.

2212
02:08:30,750 --> 02:08:33,450
I mean, they have a huge one
that horrible looking one, my

2213
02:08:33,450 --> 02:08:35,490
favorite one which is the I
think it's still a Marriott

2214
02:08:35,490 --> 02:08:37,740
because you know, these things
are like trading cards now. So

2215
02:08:37,740 --> 02:08:41,100
these hotel chains buy and sell
them amongst themselves. I can

2216
02:08:41,100 --> 02:08:45,030
manage it better. Okay, here's
manage it better. As that big

2217
02:08:45,030 --> 02:08:47,970
giant Marriott over in San
Francisco that's got the funny

2218
02:08:47,970 --> 02:08:52,590
look in top looks like a giant
jukebox. Yeah. I've told the

2219
02:08:52,590 --> 02:08:55,290
story before I'm gonna tell it
again. When they were building

2220
02:08:55,290 --> 02:08:59,040
that thing. I was with me me
walking down the street. That's

2221
02:08:59,070 --> 02:09:02,340
the sixth or whatever that
street is, or fifth or fourth.

2222
02:09:02,730 --> 02:09:07,140
And there's a church there. And
there is a the building was was

2223
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:10,500
we're approaching the building
and there was a broken sewer

2224
02:09:10,500 --> 02:09:15,840
pipe between the buildings next
to the Oh, I remember this

2225
02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:19,170
story. Wow. It's an area in the
Marriott. And we looked down in

2226
02:09:19,170 --> 02:09:23,850
this sewer pipe and there were
rats. Hundreds of rats running

2227
02:09:23,850 --> 02:09:28,980
like crazy through the sewer
pipe toward that that hotel. It

2228
02:09:28,980 --> 02:09:32,010
was pretty gruesome. I mean,
right. I'm sure there's no rats

2229
02:09:32,010 --> 02:09:34,500
in the hotel, but just saying.

2230
02:09:35,250 --> 02:09:38,010
Yeah, the first time you told it
four years ago was a little

2231
02:09:38,010 --> 02:09:39,210
better. I'm not quite sure what
you

2232
02:09:40,290 --> 02:09:43,410
probably, you know, the stories
that get watered down in time.

2233
02:09:45,060 --> 02:09:48,960
I, maybe my storytelling is
lacking and lackluster.

2234
02:09:49,170 --> 02:09:52,260
So I want to talk about Syria
for a moment. Because this will

2235
02:09:52,260 --> 02:09:55,680
come back onto the radar and I
think it'll be this week and

2236
02:09:55,680 --> 02:09:58,740
it's been very interesting
reading the official the

2237
02:09:58,740 --> 02:10:01,710
official word coming out of the
White House, there was a there

2238
02:10:01,740 --> 02:10:06,150
there is a real official
document. And it seems like the

2239
02:10:06,180 --> 02:10:10,500
the White House really wants to
do a Libya move, they really

2240
02:10:10,500 --> 02:10:15,660
want to have the UN they want
the no fly zone. And so it's

2241
02:10:15,660 --> 02:10:18,510
being pushed very, very hard by
primarily, I think the

2242
02:10:18,510 --> 02:10:23,910
Washington Post and who was
reporting on Israel. And so the

2243
02:10:23,910 --> 02:10:29,340
way this is breaking down, is
Israel is saying that they have

2244
02:10:29,340 --> 02:10:32,580
proof that chemical weapons are
being used. I have just a couple

2245
02:10:32,580 --> 02:10:35,340
clips just to accentuate this.
And I have some thoughts on it

2246
02:10:35,340 --> 02:10:39,840
and some insight information on
unreported information, I should

2247
02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:41,970
say on troop movements. David,
what

2248
02:10:41,970 --> 02:10:44,820
evidence are the Israelis
offering that the Syrians used

2249
02:10:44,820 --> 02:10:45,960
chemical weapons?

2250
02:10:47,400 --> 02:10:51,120
Marcus, they've been a little
bit vague about what the nature

2251
02:10:51,120 --> 02:10:54,510
of their evidence is. Some of it
is clearly photographic from

2252
02:10:54,510 --> 02:10:59,280
what we were told today. They
and they say they saw people

2253
02:10:59,280 --> 02:11:02,610
frothing at the mouth and so
forth, which can be a symptom of

2254
02:11:02,610 --> 02:11:04,050
using sarin gas, but it

2255
02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:09,990
maybe was just the bad oyster or
something. It doesn't sound like

2256
02:11:09,990 --> 02:11:11,940
that's a really solid report
also

2257
02:11:11,940 --> 02:11:15,840
be doctored up and it can be a
symptom of other things. They

2258
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:19,080
maintain that there was other
evidence as well, what they call

2259
02:11:19,080 --> 02:11:22,080
direct evidence, but they
wouldn't say whether or not that

2260
02:11:22,080 --> 02:11:26,010
meant that they had soil
samples, or they weren't able to

2261
02:11:26,130 --> 02:11:29,940
do direct examination of some of
the victims or this by the way

2262
02:11:29,940 --> 02:11:30,870
all bullcrap.

2263
02:11:30,870 --> 02:11:33,300
There's no, there's nothing to
hear in this report. And

2264
02:11:33,300 --> 02:11:36,300
you know who this is. This is
the New York Times, John, this

2265
02:11:36,300 --> 02:11:40,470
is on their website. This is the
New York Times that gossip rag,

2266
02:11:40,470 --> 02:11:45,750
here's Dutch. Ruppersberger.
What does he is he a member of

2267
02:11:45,750 --> 02:11:52,170
the House? I think so. We'll see
what he has to say. Oh, this is

2268
02:11:52,170 --> 02:11:55,320
very funny, actually. So he
comes out of His confidential

2269
02:11:55,320 --> 02:12:01,200
meeting, I guess he chairs the
committee and Danna bash, who

2270
02:12:01,470 --> 02:12:02,790
Danna? Bash is,

2271
02:12:03,060 --> 02:12:04,740
like a really and woman. She's

2272
02:12:04,740 --> 02:12:09,480
like a really, really, really,
really ugly Mollywood

2273
02:12:09,660 --> 02:12:11,610
you don't think Molly worry?

2274
02:12:11,940 --> 02:12:17,970
What are those now she's just a
moron. And nobody has eyes that

2275
02:12:17,970 --> 02:12:21,630
big. She's like, she's like the
reverse that Mollywood is cute

2276
02:12:21,630 --> 02:12:25,410
and sexy and smoking. And this
is like Danna bash, like looked

2277
02:12:25,410 --> 02:12:27,690
at modeling said, I want to look
like that and tried to do it,

2278
02:12:27,690 --> 02:12:31,200
but can't pull it off. Because
she's just, I mean, really weird

2279
02:12:31,200 --> 02:12:35,520
looking very, very weird. And so
she's like, CNN, CNN, and CNN.

2280
02:12:35,970 --> 02:12:39,090
And Rottenberg he immediately
like CNN wears Fox are supposed

2281
02:12:39,090 --> 02:12:41,700
to do Fox. You know? These guys
are such horrors.

2282
02:12:53,250 --> 02:12:54,750
Where's Fox? I was first going.

2283
02:12:55,410 --> 02:12:57,750
Where's Fox? It was supposed to
be? Oh, well, oh, well, I have

2284
02:12:57,750 --> 02:13:00,330
to do see you guys got no
ratings. But okay, how are you?

2285
02:13:00,360 --> 02:13:00,690
Hey,

2286
02:13:01,380 --> 02:13:03,930
question. Are you about chemical
weapons?

2287
02:13:03,990 --> 02:13:04,980
What are you learning?

2288
02:13:05,160 --> 02:13:07,830
I think we first thing this was
to bring all of our members

2289
02:13:07,830 --> 02:13:10,350
together to give them
information in a classified

2290
02:13:10,350 --> 02:13:14,820
setting. We feel that there has
been some chemical weapons that

2291
02:13:14,820 --> 02:13:18,900
have been used, but we're still
investigating who who did it,

2292
02:13:18,930 --> 02:13:21,780
where it's coming from. And
right now we're just an

2293
02:13:21,780 --> 02:13:24,840
evaluation stage. One of the
most important issues is that we

2294
02:13:24,840 --> 02:13:27,930
do you bring together the other
countries, we need to work as a

2295
02:13:27,930 --> 02:13:32,250
team, like we did in Libya, we
brought the Arab League involved

2296
02:13:32,250 --> 02:13:35,190
in it was NATO. And it's the
same situation here.

2297
02:13:35,400 --> 02:13:37,740
I would say, though, that you
hear what he's saying. You hear

2298
02:13:37,740 --> 02:13:38,640
what he's saying. It's very

2299
02:13:38,640 --> 02:13:42,150
important for us to continue to
talk to Russia, because I think

2300
02:13:42,480 --> 02:13:43,290
Russia could really

2301
02:13:43,740 --> 02:13:46,350
play that again. Oh, yeah. No,
he says it right there. He says

2302
02:13:46,350 --> 02:13:48,060
it right there. And I can back
that up with somebody.

2303
02:13:48,570 --> 02:13:51,240
Like we did Libya, and then we
brought the Arab League involved

2304
02:13:51,240 --> 02:13:56,520
in NATO and Oh, Arab League.
Okay. So it's the same situation

2305
02:13:56,520 --> 02:13:59,190
here. Okay. I would say, though,
that I think it's very important

2306
02:13:59,190 --> 02:14:02,580
for us to continue to talk to
Russia, because I think Russia

2307
02:14:02,580 --> 02:14:05,010
could really make a difference
in helping to resolve this

2308
02:14:05,010 --> 02:14:08,460
serious, a terrible situation
where people are being killed

2309
02:14:08,460 --> 02:14:08,910
every day.

2310
02:14:08,970 --> 02:14:12,450
Yeah. Okay. So a couple of
things. First of all, I have on

2311
02:14:12,450 --> 02:14:16,080
high authority that all the
Patriot missiles in the Gulf are

2312
02:14:16,080 --> 02:14:18,870
now being moved to Jordan
Jordan, of course, you know,

2313
02:14:18,870 --> 02:14:22,230
we've been told 200, maybe 200.
Dudes will send a couple of

2314
02:14:22,230 --> 02:14:28,260
troops out there. And that's
20,000. And the, the guy running

2315
02:14:28,260 --> 02:14:33,840
the show, and Jordan currently
is us major jet retired US Major

2316
02:14:33,840 --> 02:14:39,330
General Gary Harrell. And he has
been training the King Abdullah,

2317
02:14:39,330 --> 02:14:44,730
the second special operations
for several years now, this is a

2318
02:14:44,730 --> 02:14:48,510
huge operation. It's like
Blackwater. And so the attack is

2319
02:14:48,510 --> 02:14:51,780
going to come from Jordan. And
there'll be some provocation,

2320
02:14:51,780 --> 02:14:55,890
but it's really our advisors or
our consultants, because Russia

2321
02:14:55,890 --> 02:14:58,530
is never going to go along with
this. Russia will not go along

2322
02:14:58,530 --> 02:15:02,880
with it. So there has to be some
I'm kind of well we can call it

2323
02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:05,880
a false flag with a has to be
some kind of provocation where

2324
02:15:05,880 --> 02:15:09,540
Jordan will have to attack
Syria, but it's not really

2325
02:15:09,540 --> 02:15:14,610
Jordan. It's really the United
States. Now, here's the problem

2326
02:15:14,640 --> 02:15:19,740
that I it's it doesn't work in
my mind. And and you don't agree

2327
02:15:19,740 --> 02:15:23,280
with me on this, John, but I
don't understand being a child

2328
02:15:23,280 --> 02:15:26,490
who grew up with the threat of
the neutron bomb. Do you

2329
02:15:26,490 --> 02:15:30,360
remember the neutron bomb? Yeah,
the neutron bomb. What was the

2330
02:15:30,690 --> 02:15:33,540
what was the thing of the
neutron bomb Ella neutron bomb

2331
02:15:33,540 --> 02:15:33,660
is

2332
02:15:33,660 --> 02:15:40,290
essentially a fusion device that
produces doesn't produce a

2333
02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:43,440
normal type of explosion it
produced it releases mostly

2334
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:47,460
neutrons instead of gamma
radiation I think is the would

2335
02:15:47,460 --> 02:15:51,750
rather bomb well the way it
kills everybody but it doesn't

2336
02:15:51,750 --> 02:15:53,430
destroy the building. Exactly.

2337
02:15:53,460 --> 02:15:59,280
Exactly. And it was seen as
something very scary. But and it

2338
02:15:59,280 --> 02:16:02,490
was course everyone was gonna
have one and remember there was

2339
02:16:02,490 --> 02:16:05,400
like whole thing stopped and we
can't have neutron bombs. I

2340
02:16:05,400 --> 02:16:06,930
don't understand

2341
02:16:07,290 --> 02:16:12,540
those. By the way, remember that
era it was a big stink made

2342
02:16:12,540 --> 02:16:16,380
about the neutron bomb mostly by
the left saying that it was a

2343
02:16:16,380 --> 02:16:19,650
terrible idea because it would
encourage people to drop the

2344
02:16:19,650 --> 02:16:22,710
bomb because it doesn't it's not
destructive in the way it is

2345
02:16:22,710 --> 02:16:26,370
destructive word hits, but it's
not district widely destructive.

2346
02:16:27,600 --> 02:16:31,380
This is what I don't understand.
And I'm gonna say it again and

2347
02:16:31,410 --> 02:16:35,970
you're gonna go against it. And
I don't understand why things

2348
02:16:35,970 --> 02:16:39,420
like the neutron bomb and
chemical weapons are the red

2349
02:16:39,420 --> 02:16:43,290
line. So let's just presume that
it's true because now the

2350
02:16:43,290 --> 02:16:47,040
numbers 80,000 That's what John
McCain says that the Assad

2351
02:16:47,040 --> 02:16:51,900
regime has now killed eight
slaughtered 80,000 People I

2352
02:16:51,900 --> 02:16:56,700
doubt it but look at the rumble
you know I think it should be

2353
02:16:56,700 --> 02:16:59,610
the other way around. You know,
it's like hey, you want to kill

2354
02:16:59,610 --> 02:17:03,360
your your own citizens with
chemical weapons? Okay, you

2355
02:17:03,360 --> 02:17:07,140
know, but if you're gonna start
ruining the place that's really

2356
02:17:07,140 --> 02:17:10,380
destructive you know killing
people whether you kill them

2357
02:17:10,530 --> 02:17:14,190
with bombs that blow stuff up,
or whether you kill them with

2358
02:17:14,190 --> 02:17:18,540
chemical weapons you're killing
people. I don't understand why

2359
02:17:18,540 --> 02:17:22,800
chemical weapons all of a sudden
is a red line is so horrible.

2360
02:17:22,860 --> 02:17:27,030
Can you explain to me why that
is worse than blowing people's

2361
02:17:27,030 --> 02:17:29,280
houses up can you explain that
to me?

2362
02:17:29,430 --> 02:17:32,490
Yeah because chemical Well
there's a number of reasons you

2363
02:17:32,490 --> 02:17:34,590
don't want to use them because
you can't control them very

2364
02:17:34,590 --> 02:17:40,290
easily. But if they're up there
a horrific way to go we torture

2365
02:17:40,290 --> 02:17:42,870
them first and then kill them
essentially is what chemical

2366
02:17:42,870 --> 02:17:44,130
weapons does well

2367
02:17:44,129 --> 02:17:47,939
what so having you being blown
in half and dying

2368
02:17:48,000 --> 02:17:51,750
dodged a bullet you can take
dividends these are not have you

2369
02:17:51,750 --> 02:17:56,010
seen this the so called YouTube
videos from Syria? This isn't

2370
02:17:56,010 --> 02:17:59,820
like a car bombs everything
people are blown to bits come

2371
02:17:59,820 --> 02:18:00,540
on.

2372
02:18:01,049 --> 02:18:03,419
If you're on bits at least
you're not suffering.

2373
02:18:03,780 --> 02:18:07,080
No, of course you're suffering
you don't die immediately like

2374
02:18:07,140 --> 02:18:09,900
you know like your everything's
blown off and you're laying

2375
02:18:09,900 --> 02:18:12,810
around and you know, it's like
the least now is like the whole

2376
02:18:12,810 --> 02:18:14,520
family will be gone together.

2377
02:18:14,580 --> 02:18:15,900
Very very kosher.

2378
02:18:15,930 --> 02:18:19,530
I'm sorry. I'm just if you're
killing people anyway.

2379
02:18:20,100 --> 02:18:24,810
Well, that's the that would be
the logic of a Hitler Okay,

2380
02:18:24,810 --> 02:18:27,600
they're gonna get killed anyway.
So let's keep the property so

2381
02:18:27,600 --> 02:18:30,270
the values of the product so we
don't lose our property values.

2382
02:18:30,270 --> 02:18:31,050
Yes.

2383
02:18:31,260 --> 02:18:33,810
This is what I don't understand
is like why

2384
02:18:34,170 --> 02:18:36,870
it's a kind of classic
capitalistic dilemma. Why is

2385
02:18:36,870 --> 02:18:37,680
that? Why is

2386
02:18:37,679 --> 02:18:41,129
it a red line? Why why is that
the red line? Why

2387
02:18:41,340 --> 02:18:46,290
why that? Doesn't have to be it
just is no but it is why are we

2388
02:18:46,290 --> 02:18:49,380
settled or blind draw a red line
right Can I let allow this

2389
02:18:49,530 --> 02:18:52,200
even why do we settle for that
as the red line isn't like

2390
02:18:52,200 --> 02:18:55,110
killing people in general a red
line if we're going to be honest

2391
02:18:55,110 --> 02:18:55,740
about it?

2392
02:18:56,010 --> 02:18:58,380
Yeah, if you want to really be
honest about that is absolutely

2393
02:18:58,380 --> 02:19:02,070
true. But it's not that but it's
not it's the kill people but you

2394
02:19:02,070 --> 02:19:02,490
know,

2395
02:19:02,969 --> 02:19:05,909
but with Messier it's really
efficient about

2396
02:19:05,909 --> 02:19:11,009
a gamma ray everybody struck
down the street with his with

2397
02:19:11,009 --> 02:19:13,649
these devices and just whacked
everyone is just down the

2398
02:19:13,649 --> 02:19:14,729
streets. You can do that.

2399
02:19:15,719 --> 02:19:19,169
This anyway, it just makes no
sense to me. I'm all for

2400
02:19:19,169 --> 02:19:21,389
chemical weapons. I think if
you're going to kill people,

2401
02:19:21,539 --> 02:19:23,969
kill them with chemical weapons.
And to me it would be the

2402
02:19:23,969 --> 02:19:24,779
opposite way. I'm

2403
02:19:24,809 --> 02:19:27,719
all for chemical weapons quote
Adam curry. Yes.

2404
02:19:27,959 --> 02:19:31,499
As your booster and the neutron
bomb. And you know, if you're

2405
02:19:31,499 --> 02:19:36,689
going to kill people anyway,
don't make a mess of it. Don't

2406
02:19:36,689 --> 02:19:37,559
make a mess of it.

2407
02:19:38,309 --> 02:19:42,299
You have to actually listen to
that in in overall context and

2408
02:19:42,299 --> 02:19:46,199
realize that it's it sounds like
the ravings of an insane maniac.

2409
02:19:46,950 --> 02:19:51,600
Well, okay, I'm just, I'm just
calling it as it is. I mean, it

2410
02:19:51,600 --> 02:19:54,870
makes no sense to me that this
rule this is, oh, chemical

2411
02:19:54,870 --> 02:19:57,030
weapons are always going to kill
people. They're going to froth

2412
02:19:57,030 --> 02:20:00,000
at the mouth. Well, that's bad
instead of blowing them too.

2413
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:04,890
bits. This is the hypocrisy that
I don't understand. Like, oh,

2414
02:20:05,190 --> 02:20:08,310
you know, we just keep on going
like, oh, whatever it was at if

2415
02:20:08,310 --> 02:20:11,250
you believe that, oh 80,000
People are slaughtered. No one

2416
02:20:11,250 --> 02:20:14,820
gives a crap here like, whoa,
but chemical weapons will know

2417
02:20:14,820 --> 02:20:19,950
this. Oh, that's a red line.
This is this is a policy to me.

2418
02:20:20,970 --> 02:20:24,120
That's why I say it. And you're
just as hypocritical as the

2419
02:20:24,120 --> 02:20:24,630
rest?

2420
02:20:24,660 --> 02:20:28,410
No, no, it's not hypocritical at
all. You think non targeted,

2421
02:20:28,500 --> 02:20:31,110
generally speaking, if you're if
you shoot somebody, you're

2422
02:20:31,110 --> 02:20:33,960
targeting them. So you're
actually you know, there was a

2423
02:20:33,960 --> 02:20:37,440
bad guy, I'm gonna shoot him.
Chemical Weapons just does it

2424
02:20:37,440 --> 02:20:39,900
doesn't pay attention to any of
that. It just kills everybody.

2425
02:20:41,310 --> 02:20:44,490
And children, right? Yeah, yeah.

2426
02:20:46,200 --> 02:20:47,520
But and the bombs don't

2427
02:20:48,390 --> 02:20:51,900
know the bombs, or do you know
they do but it's always at

2428
02:20:51,960 --> 02:20:54,360
RPGs. i

2429
02:20:56,400 --> 02:20:59,820
In the scheme of things,
chemical weapons are worse than

2430
02:20:59,820 --> 02:21:02,730
bombs in terms of just killing,
you know,

2431
02:21:02,790 --> 02:21:05,520
worse than worse than when this
is my point

2432
02:21:05,550 --> 02:21:08,340
on targeted, it's just just
killing people for the sake of

2433
02:21:08,340 --> 02:21:09,030
killing them.

2434
02:21:09,660 --> 02:21:12,810
Well, isn't that what we've been
told for two years that Assad is

2435
02:21:12,810 --> 02:21:14,940
just killing people for the sake
of killing them?

2436
02:21:15,330 --> 02:21:18,060
Yes. Which is why we expect him
to use chemical weapons, at

2437
02:21:18,060 --> 02:21:23,520
least in the script. And I don't
think he'll do it. I think it's,

2438
02:21:23,760 --> 02:21:26,040
I think it is bogus, I think
it's going to be us

2439
02:21:27,780 --> 02:21:29,250
through the Jordanians.

2440
02:21:31,200 --> 02:21:34,110
Or maybe there'll be I don't
know how they're gonna work the

2441
02:21:34,110 --> 02:21:35,730
Jordan thing out to make that
one, I

2442
02:21:35,730 --> 02:21:37,860
think I think it's a red line
for different guys.

2443
02:21:38,250 --> 02:21:40,200
I think it's in play. And I've
been watching this. I've been

2444
02:21:40,200 --> 02:21:43,710
watching a lot of overseas news
broadcasts from mostly

2445
02:21:43,710 --> 02:21:49,560
Australia. And which is really
stupid. Your news if anybody has

2446
02:21:49,560 --> 02:21:53,640
it? And they actually I think
they broke it because it was

2447
02:21:53,640 --> 02:21:56,880
like, last week, or even when we
did the last show, or just

2448
02:21:56,880 --> 02:22:00,690
before there were no uses of
chemical weapons in Syria. No,

2449
02:22:00,690 --> 02:22:03,450
no, no. Everyday intelligence
guy said no, they're Syrian said

2450
02:22:03,450 --> 02:22:06,660
no. Then all of a sudden, I hear
on the Australian news. Chemical

2451
02:22:06,660 --> 02:22:09,780
weapons have been confirmed.
Yeah. And the script was

2452
02:22:09,780 --> 02:22:13,110
changed. And then I turn on RT,
and then within a few hours, it

2453
02:22:13,110 --> 02:22:15,870
starts to show up here. Yeah.
And I think why did they change

2454
02:22:15,870 --> 02:22:19,290
the script all of a sudden, to
now chemical weapons have been

2455
02:22:19,290 --> 02:22:22,620
used, we think even though
there's absolutely zero evidence

2456
02:22:22,620 --> 02:22:28,230
of it, so so so so I spoke I
Hora fire. And so now it's like,

2457
02:22:28,260 --> 02:22:31,020
and now I hear this about
Jordan, which doesn't surprise

2458
02:22:31,020 --> 02:22:34,410
me because there was no there
was indications a week or two

2459
02:22:34,410 --> 02:22:38,100
ago about Jordan having a
military buildup. So now I'm

2460
02:22:38,100 --> 02:22:40,830
thinking what this is going to
be interesting. I can't I don't

2461
02:22:40,830 --> 02:22:47,160
see a script plot point going
that way. But well, here's the

2462
02:22:47,880 --> 02:22:51,030
here's the logical thing about
chemical weapons in this case,

2463
02:22:52,590 --> 02:22:59,190
we lose out there's no money to
be made in chemical weapons. You

2464
02:22:59,190 --> 02:23:01,770
got to have the smaller stuff.
It's a much bigger sale.

2465
02:23:01,980 --> 02:23:04,380
And it's also better if you blow
up the buildings because you

2466
02:23:04,380 --> 02:23:04,560
have

2467
02:23:04,590 --> 02:23:08,040
contractors Thank you, the
contractors and they gotta

2468
02:23:08,040 --> 02:23:08,850
rebuild.

2469
02:23:08,880 --> 02:23:11,610
Thank you. Now you've now I'll
never

2470
02:23:12,540 --> 02:23:15,540
creates it. The other way the
nukes no money,

2471
02:23:15,570 --> 02:23:17,730
there's no money. It creates

2472
02:23:17,730 --> 02:23:21,990
a stupid bunch of rotting flesh
everywhere. Stinks.

2473
02:23:22,680 --> 02:23:25,800
Thank you. We figured it out.
Now. I know now I know what's

2474
02:23:25,800 --> 02:23:31,440
going on. That makes total
sense. We can have brechtl and

2475
02:23:31,440 --> 02:23:34,080
all these companies going in
Bechtel, we can't have them.

2476
02:23:34,140 --> 02:23:37,650
Rachel. It sounds like a new
hair salon company.

2477
02:23:37,920 --> 02:23:43,980
Now it's a it's a new play. Now,
we can't have Halliburton

2478
02:23:43,980 --> 02:23:46,290
rebuilding everything. There's
just not there's no rebuilding

2479
02:23:46,290 --> 02:23:49,890
to be done. So this now I
understand why it's a red line.

2480
02:23:50,130 --> 02:23:54,450
It's like hey, you want to kill
your people? Great. Oh, I'ma

2481
02:23:54,480 --> 02:23:57,990
blow him up so that we can come
in and we can rebuild your

2482
02:23:57,990 --> 02:24:02,460
entire country the way we want
it with our companies. And we'll

2483
02:24:02,460 --> 02:24:06,210
bring you that big check the way
we did Kuwait but but don't just

2484
02:24:06,210 --> 02:24:09,480
like kill your people and just
leave us like oh we do like one

2485
02:24:09,480 --> 02:24:12,660
bulldozer This is no good. We
can't make any money that way.

2486
02:24:12,690 --> 02:24:13,170
Now I

2487
02:24:13,170 --> 02:24:15,420
understand things how's this
gonna play out that Jordan is

2488
02:24:15,420 --> 02:24:17,190
gonna get some hot Okay, so all
I

2489
02:24:17,190 --> 02:24:22,350
know is that I got the this
information about retired

2490
02:24:22,380 --> 02:24:27,660
General Major General Gary
Harrell and the Patriot missiles

2491
02:24:27,660 --> 02:24:30,810
being moved to Jordan. This is
coming from one of one of our

2492
02:24:31,680 --> 02:24:37,740
military industrial complex
contacts. And he's he's been

2493
02:24:37,740 --> 02:24:40,590
right on every every you know,
I'm talking

2494
02:24:40,950 --> 02:24:44,070
I'm looking at the Supreme
Headquarters Allied Powers

2495
02:24:44,070 --> 02:24:47,670
Europe. Do you see the guy on
the Segway? No, I haven't seen

2496
02:24:47,670 --> 02:24:50,430
the Segway picture but I got a
picture of the of this Allen

2497
02:24:50,430 --> 02:24:54,240
character. He just looks like an
operator. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

2498
02:24:54,270 --> 02:24:54,540
Well, he's

2499
02:24:54,540 --> 02:24:55,770
been training everyone here

2500
02:24:55,770 --> 02:24:58,860
he is. He's here he is hanging
out with Jordanian Special

2501
02:24:58,860 --> 02:25:04,230
Operations Forces. entered
director Brigadier General Shane

2502
02:25:04,230 --> 02:25:08,340
cat tonigh. In a presents the
Supreme Allied Commander, Europe

2503
02:25:08,370 --> 02:25:13,950
Admiral James star var star
vittatus with a plaque after

2504
02:25:14,550 --> 02:25:19,290
staff rytis Stavridis. Stafford.
His first visited the center and

2505
02:25:19,290 --> 02:25:22,590
this is this has been going on
since October 2010. Yes.

2506
02:25:22,590 --> 02:25:25,980
Jordanian connection in this
guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And so

2507
02:25:26,010 --> 02:25:26,850
Jordan has

2508
02:25:26,850 --> 02:25:29,880
been this event well planned.
Oh, yeah. Now this has been

2509
02:25:29,880 --> 02:25:30,510
going on.

2510
02:25:31,620 --> 02:25:34,200
I mean, this is a beauty. And
it's

2511
02:25:34,200 --> 02:25:36,480
going to be it's going to be
big, but it's going to it's

2512
02:25:36,480 --> 02:25:38,850
going to be totally it's going
to be Arab League, you know, and

2513
02:25:38,850 --> 02:25:42,030
then I think what will happen is
you'll have a strife you'll have

2514
02:25:42,030 --> 02:25:45,420
something go on between Jordan
and Syria. And then that'll be a

2515
02:25:45,420 --> 02:25:49,800
reason for NATO to do the whole
no fly zone and everything and

2516
02:25:49,800 --> 02:25:52,350
there's going to cut Russia out
of the deal. Because it'll be

2517
02:25:52,380 --> 02:25:55,290
you know, true attacks and
everything is is Jordan in the

2518
02:25:55,290 --> 02:25:58,650
United Nations, by the way.
Sure. Yeah. Makes sense. Right?

2519
02:25:59,250 --> 02:26:02,520
Sure. Yeah, I don't know Look,
I'm just asking

2520
02:26:02,670 --> 02:26:04,380
I mean, there's very few
countries that aren't

2521
02:26:05,280 --> 02:26:07,980
right so that's all you need all
you need. You don't even need a

2522
02:26:07,980 --> 02:26:10,140
Security Resolution then at that
point because then you go

2523
02:26:10,140 --> 02:26:14,250
straight to Article Five and
boom, you're good to go. I don't

2524
02:26:14,250 --> 02:26:16,050
think they need permission from
from

2525
02:26:16,530 --> 02:26:20,250
almost Okay, as OTC which I
would think be something to do

2526
02:26:20,250 --> 02:26:24,090
the over the counter market,
King Abdullah Special Operations

2527
02:26:24,090 --> 02:26:28,080
Training Center facility that
specializes in latest current

2528
02:26:28,080 --> 02:26:33,210
counterterrorism special ops and
irregular irregular warfare

2529
02:26:33,210 --> 02:26:33,750
tactics.

2530
02:26:34,170 --> 02:26:37,740
That's like a that's like
asymmetric. Well, regular AC MMA

2531
02:26:37,740 --> 02:26:43,560
or may not be asymmetric is this
is an overall style. It's not a

2532
02:26:43,560 --> 02:26:47,190
tactic. But I guess it is a
tactic. Totally who's located in

2533
02:26:47,250 --> 02:26:52,320
Amman, Georgia, or Georgia,
Jordan HRM Candela, his vision

2534
02:26:52,320 --> 02:26:55,380
for making Jordan home to the
international counterterrorism

2535
02:26:55,380 --> 02:27:00,090
training center of excellence
became a reality. It opened his

2536
02:27:00,090 --> 02:27:07,200
doors in 2009, may 19, which is
a date to remember. And okay,

2537
02:27:07,410 --> 02:27:08,760
now, this will be interesting,
put

2538
02:27:08,760 --> 02:27:11,400
it in the book because in the
book, it's in the book, the

2539
02:27:11,400 --> 02:27:15,690
chatter on my on my device has
heated chatter. I've got

2540
02:27:15,690 --> 02:27:20,730
chatter, and it has heated up.
By the way. 11.750, I think is

2541
02:27:20,730 --> 02:27:28,500
the frequency 11.750 mag Oh,
11.175 megahertz is where you

2542
02:27:28,500 --> 02:27:31,050
can hear like the Air Force and
stuff. There's all kinds of cool

2543
02:27:31,050 --> 02:27:35,160
frequencies to listen to on USB.
And you can hear them you know,

2544
02:27:35,160 --> 02:27:38,580
like positioning stuff in the
Middle East. If the conditions

2545
02:27:38,580 --> 02:27:41,640
are right, it's pretty cool.
That's not where I get the

2546
02:27:41,640 --> 02:27:45,180
information from. But yeah, I'm
just I did get that frequency

2547
02:27:45,180 --> 02:27:49,590
from I'm just sitting in my
shack pointing my antenna all

2548
02:27:49,590 --> 02:27:50,520
over the place.

2549
02:27:51,420 --> 02:27:54,630
Never stops so there's the
information to be had. Nobody

2550
02:27:54,630 --> 02:27:55,530
uses encryption.

2551
02:27:55,590 --> 02:27:58,500
Well, you know, no one's talking
about Jordan, but I so why don't

2552
02:27:58,500 --> 02:28:02,790
you just put it just spin? No,
no, no, no one has said there

2553
02:28:02,790 --> 02:28:05,580
will be some kind of attack
against Jordan or something. No

2554
02:28:05,580 --> 02:28:11,430
one is saying that. That's Ross.
We are Yeah. I have two things

2555
02:28:11,430 --> 02:28:15,780
left. When I want to loot leave
it open for you.

2556
02:28:16,289 --> 02:28:21,899
Let me do a segue here. I got a
kick out of the story. I think

2557
02:28:21,899 --> 02:28:24,329
this is from the Midwest, maybe
Montana.

2558
02:28:24,449 --> 02:28:29,549
I have the same story with the
cheerleader hitless. Oh, no. No,

2559
02:28:29,549 --> 02:28:31,349
that one I don't have. Oh,

2560
02:28:31,380 --> 02:28:34,920
can I mind I play it. Yeah. The
first thing that crossed my mind

2561
02:28:34,920 --> 02:28:36,060
was going and dragging the kids
out

2562
02:28:36,060 --> 02:28:39,450
of school. It's a phone call.
Jim Bishop wasn't expecting a

2563
02:28:39,450 --> 02:28:39,690
call

2564
02:28:39,690 --> 02:28:41,070
and you're saying you know,
there's a hit list of the

2565
02:28:41,070 --> 02:28:43,620
school. That's pretty scary. For
now.

2566
02:28:43,620 --> 02:28:47,010
County investigators tell us two
students, an eighth grader here,

2567
02:28:47,010 --> 02:28:50,610
Walker Butte, and a 10th grader
at Poston Butte high, both

2568
02:28:50,610 --> 02:28:54,210
cheerleaders created a hit list
of students they didn't

2569
02:28:54,210 --> 02:28:57,150
like and I have three kids and
both schools.

2570
02:28:57,210 --> 02:29:00,900
In total, nine students who
attended walker or Poston plus a

2571
02:29:00,900 --> 02:29:02,040
teacher were named,

2572
02:29:02,130 --> 02:29:06,030
they had notified the parents of
the kids on the hit list,

2573
02:29:06,060 --> 02:29:10,050
which definitely made Jim feel
much better. Obviously, my kids

2574
02:29:10,050 --> 02:29:13,350
went to this school district was
notified after parent found the

2575
02:29:13,350 --> 02:29:14,970
post on Instagram.

2576
02:29:15,210 --> 02:29:17,280
That's pretty serious, you know,
when you're threatening other

2577
02:29:17,280 --> 02:29:17,700
kids,

2578
02:29:17,820 --> 02:29:21,150
but the girls told investigators
they never intended to harm

2579
02:29:21,150 --> 02:29:24,900
anyone. They better take it
seriously in Pinal. County and

2580
02:29:25,110 --> 02:29:28,710
Fergana. ABC 15 news. What is
this? I mean,

2581
02:29:28,710 --> 02:29:33,180
give me a break. So what goes on
in the Midwest? It's like these

2582
02:29:33,180 --> 02:29:37,650
girls coupled by the way that 16
year olds report about this high

2583
02:29:37,650 --> 02:29:40,890
school is showing you where this
is all headed. This is becoming

2584
02:29:40,890 --> 02:29:44,340
a ridiculous situation in
American schools. These girls

2585
02:29:44,340 --> 02:29:47,550
are like any other dipshit
cheerleaders and there's plenty

2586
02:29:47,550 --> 02:29:51,420
of them out there. She's not
probably among the elite, you

2587
02:29:51,420 --> 02:29:55,830
know, popular girls who made a
list of the dorks they don't

2588
02:29:55,830 --> 02:29:59,610
like yeah, and they made a list
and actually published it and

2589
02:29:59,610 --> 02:30:02,850
showed up On Instagram, yeah, we
don't like these people. And it

2590
02:30:02,850 --> 02:30:05,340
probably says that you probably
did say something like hit list

2591
02:30:05,340 --> 02:30:07,740
because you don't want to talk
to them. Exactly. And they made

2592
02:30:07,740 --> 02:30:11,250
a stink out of it. It's just
like kids, you know, these kids,

2593
02:30:11,310 --> 02:30:11,730
you know,

2594
02:30:11,910 --> 02:30:14,850
but this is not just the
Midwest, this is now in the

2595
02:30:14,850 --> 02:30:18,330
Netherlands. Of course,
everyone's all in jitters

2596
02:30:18,330 --> 02:30:21,720
because we have the big
abdication celebration coming up

2597
02:30:21,720 --> 02:30:25,200
in two days on the 13th of
April. And so now we have the

2598
02:30:25,200 --> 02:30:28,890
queen stepping down on Queen's
Day, which is already crazy. And

2599
02:30:28,890 --> 02:30:32,520
then we have our new prince
pills, our beer Prince stepping

2600
02:30:32,520 --> 02:30:37,440
in, there'll be drunk, no doubt,
it'll be fun fun to watch. And

2601
02:30:37,470 --> 02:30:42,840
so everyone's all like rue. And
on 4chan twice now, someone has

2602
02:30:42,840 --> 02:30:45,360
said, Oh, I'm gonna go shoot up
the school and they've they're

2603
02:30:45,360 --> 02:30:52,050
now doing lock downs of Dutch
schools. And and oh, yeah, we

2604
02:30:52,050 --> 02:30:54,600
don't have guns in Holland. By
the way, then. I don't

2605
02:30:54,600 --> 02:30:57,060
understand why I was so afraid.
Because you know, this is not

2606
02:30:57,060 --> 02:31:00,210
America, you have no one that
didn't know like AR fifteens all

2607
02:31:00,210 --> 02:31:03,990
over the place. Or I'm sorry,
no, they only have a machine

2608
02:31:03,990 --> 02:31:06,780
guns that the the criminals are
shooting each other up with but

2609
02:31:06,780 --> 02:31:11,820
okay. But now instead of lone
wolves, for the 30th of April,

2610
02:31:11,880 --> 02:31:14,970
now they're talking they have a
term now in the Netherlands.

2611
02:31:15,090 --> 02:31:19,590
Gitmo nation lowlands called aim
Zama fiqa, which translated

2612
02:31:19,590 --> 02:31:25,740
directly means lonely crazies.
And that is their that is now

2613
02:31:25,740 --> 02:31:27,990
that is their version of the
lone wolf and they are expelled.

2614
02:31:27,990 --> 02:31:30,690
They've talked to many people
already.

2615
02:31:30,960 --> 02:31:32,310
Who then can be lonely.

2616
02:31:33,330 --> 02:31:36,330
Yes, long, lonely crazies. And
they've got

2617
02:31:36,330 --> 02:31:39,750
to get a good a lot of old maids
in this country. Yeah, go

2618
02:31:39,750 --> 02:31:43,080
on them but they've gone out and
there is basically pre crime.

2619
02:31:43,680 --> 02:31:46,380
They're out there check in
checking the lonely crazies. And

2620
02:31:46,380 --> 02:31:48,480
we've had discussions with
several who we thought, you

2621
02:31:48,480 --> 02:31:51,690
know, are crazy enough that they
could just go and do something

2622
02:31:51,690 --> 02:31:54,810
nuts, you know, so we may have
to lock a few up if we are

2623
02:31:54,810 --> 02:31:55,830
suspicious of them.

2624
02:31:57,180 --> 02:31:58,710
This is very, very bad.

2625
02:32:00,540 --> 02:32:04,350
goes this is what's happening.
Yeah. My favorite clip of the

2626
02:32:04,350 --> 02:32:07,410
week is the lesbians in middle
school.

2627
02:32:07,440 --> 02:32:10,050
That's the one I had to. Yeah,
let's play that

2628
02:32:10,080 --> 02:32:13,710
some red hook. New York middle
school parents are outraged

2629
02:32:13,710 --> 02:32:17,670
after their daughters were
forced to pretend to be lesbians

2630
02:32:17,670 --> 02:32:21,360
in front of the classmates. The
Linden Avenue Middle School anti

2631
02:32:21,360 --> 02:32:25,350
bullying campaign focused on
homosexuality and gender

2632
02:32:25,350 --> 02:32:28,800
identity. Parents say their
daughters were embarrassed by

2633
02:32:28,800 --> 02:32:32,160
the role playing parent Mandy
Kuhn told reporters quote, she

2634
02:32:32,160 --> 02:32:36,420
told me Mom, we all get teased
and picked on enough now I'm

2635
02:32:36,420 --> 02:32:40,260
going to be called a lesbian,
because I had to ask another

2636
02:32:40,260 --> 02:32:44,340
girl if I could kiss her. Kuhn
says parents were given no

2637
02:32:44,340 --> 02:32:48,000
warning of the event and no
choice to opt out. School

2638
02:32:48,000 --> 02:32:51,210
administrators defended the
workshop and say they're

2639
02:32:51,210 --> 02:32:53,880
planning more. I want to opt out
of the

2640
02:32:53,880 --> 02:32:57,450
lesbianism, please. So I looked
into this a little bit.

2641
02:32:57,540 --> 02:33:00,390
Can I just play my clip? So it's
a different report? Exactly.

2642
02:33:00,690 --> 02:33:06,330
Exact exact same words. Exact
same words. Just stop it.

2643
02:33:07,260 --> 02:33:10,890
Some Red Hook New York middle
school parents are outraged

2644
02:33:10,890 --> 02:33:12,000
after their daughters.

2645
02:33:12,030 --> 02:33:13,830
Do you hear that? It's the exact
same words

2646
02:33:13,830 --> 02:33:17,280
just the exact same clip? No,
it's not. Yeah, I don't think

2647
02:33:17,280 --> 02:33:17,790
so.

2648
02:33:17,880 --> 02:33:18,720
Yeah, it is no,

2649
02:33:18,750 --> 02:33:22,410
we're forced to pretend to be
lesbians in front of really the

2650
02:33:22,410 --> 02:33:25,830
classmates, the Linden Avenue
and middle school. Are you sure

2651
02:33:25,830 --> 02:33:25,890
it

2652
02:33:25,890 --> 02:33:29,160
is your clip is different than
mine, in this regard, is for one

2653
02:33:29,160 --> 02:33:31,770
thing is equalized differently,
but you have that same little

2654
02:33:31,800 --> 02:33:35,820
end of that guy you didn't clip
it off. I have the same thing

2655
02:33:37,020 --> 02:33:39,570
that got the day before the
camera guy.

2656
02:33:39,600 --> 02:33:42,930
You got to look guys cut all we
have that exact same clip. It

2657
02:33:42,930 --> 02:33:44,160
sounded different. I'm sorry.

2658
02:33:44,340 --> 02:33:47,400
Yes, equalized. It does sound
differently when you looked into

2659
02:33:47,400 --> 02:33:51,210
it. So I looked into a little
bit and it's only a brouhaha be

2660
02:33:51,300 --> 02:33:54,930
between a bunch of Christian
churches who got wind of this

2661
02:33:55,350 --> 02:33:58,860
and the gay community. Yeah. And
so if you read the both sides of

2662
02:33:58,890 --> 02:34:01,530
it, apparently it was it was
like an exercise where you're

2663
02:34:01,530 --> 02:34:03,780
supposed to ask somebody to kiss
you but you don't have to but

2664
02:34:03,780 --> 02:34:06,750
you can if you want to. And I
kept looking into this and the

2665
02:34:06,750 --> 02:34:10,410
gazing it's just showing that
the Christians hate gays. Yeah.

2666
02:34:10,440 --> 02:34:12,750
And it went on and on with these
two with his back but then I got

2667
02:34:12,750 --> 02:34:16,470
to do I found one deeper
deconstruction or Archie now I

2668
02:34:16,470 --> 02:34:21,660
actually report a deeper
reporting. It turns out that I

2669
02:34:21,690 --> 02:34:24,810
here's my analysis, it turns out
that this was a health class

2670
02:34:24,810 --> 02:34:28,380
that was given as kind of a test
of, of the high schoolers who

2671
02:34:28,380 --> 02:34:32,190
are going to go come down to the
grade schoolers and teach them a

2672
02:34:32,190 --> 02:34:35,280
little bit about bullying and
some other stuff. So it was high

2673
02:34:35,280 --> 02:34:38,460
school. It was high schoolers
that were doing the class.

2674
02:34:39,900 --> 02:34:42,690
It was their idea. Yeah, no
kidding.

2675
02:34:45,000 --> 02:34:47,250
Hey, man, I got a great idea for
social studies.

2676
02:34:49,770 --> 02:34:53,070
All indications are as a couple
of goofballs in high school says

2677
02:34:53,070 --> 02:35:01,950
I've got a great idea. Girls
kiss and we'll watch Hey,

2678
02:35:01,979 --> 02:35:07,709
I just like the whole idea of a
lesbian. Mommy, I want a lesbian

2679
02:35:07,709 --> 02:35:11,189
opt out. That's to get too good.
Of course, this is exactly what,

2680
02:35:11,519 --> 02:35:14,699
John you and I could have made
this one up ourselves. Like I

2681
02:35:14,699 --> 02:35:18,209
got a great idea for this class.
We got a great history dude.

2682
02:35:18,239 --> 02:35:24,599
Yeah, so you let's, let's see,
we got to do like roleplay I

2683
02:35:24,599 --> 02:35:28,199
don't think I could do with a
straight face. So we could

2684
02:35:28,199 --> 02:35:30,419
either so we really want to do
some roleplay for this

2685
02:35:30,419 --> 02:35:34,079
particular class. And in this
case, we want to demonstrate how

2686
02:35:34,079 --> 02:35:37,529
horrible bullying is. Now if you
too, yeah, you from the

2687
02:35:37,529 --> 02:35:40,529
cheerleaders. Yeah. If you could
just if you could ask her if

2688
02:35:40,529 --> 02:35:43,469
she's kiss you like and then the
new and I'll pretend I'm a

2689
02:35:43,469 --> 02:35:43,949
bully.

2690
02:35:45,720 --> 02:35:48,510
Hey, you hot lesbians?

2691
02:35:51,900 --> 02:35:55,530
It's funny. Now on the last show
we did I we brought out a

2692
02:35:55,530 --> 02:36:00,840
Nightline clip showing you how
to how ABC News in general is is

2693
02:36:00,840 --> 02:36:04,320
pokes holes for the government
also deteriorating? I think it's

2694
02:36:04,320 --> 02:36:06,750
gotten a little worse than that
touting that. This is another

2695
02:36:06,750 --> 02:36:11,010
Nightline story. In this case
plugging a book, but I'm just to

2696
02:36:11,010 --> 02:36:14,460
have the intro of it and tell me
you do think this is really

2697
02:36:14,460 --> 02:36:15,870
hitting the bottom of the
barrel?

2698
02:36:16,320 --> 02:36:17,670
Which one is it leading?

2699
02:36:18,060 --> 02:36:19,980
Nightline worsens.

2700
02:36:20,160 --> 02:36:21,420
Oh, sorry. Here we go.

2701
02:36:22,680 --> 02:36:26,730
Is it otherworldly or a synapse
in the brain trapped in a car or

2702
02:36:26,730 --> 02:36:29,130
caught up in a terror attack?
It's those moments while

2703
02:36:29,130 --> 02:36:32,310
fighting for survival that some
people report an overwhelming

2704
02:36:32,310 --> 02:36:35,940
sense of calm piercing through
the panic. It's repeatedly

2705
02:36:35,940 --> 02:36:39,600
described as spiritual, even
divine. Could it be the work of

2706
02:36:39,600 --> 02:36:43,740
guardian angels? ABCs J Schadler
discovers some very surprising

2707
02:36:43,740 --> 02:36:44,490
answers.

2708
02:36:47,370 --> 02:36:50,580
This is News. This is Nightline.
The big news show that you see

2709
02:36:50,580 --> 02:36:54,330
like Ted Koppel and yeah, those
days are over. Yeah, that's

2710
02:36:54,330 --> 02:36:59,100
awesome. That is awesome. Wow.
So I'm just trying to think how

2711
02:36:59,100 --> 02:37:03,060
we should leave because I think
I can save most of this stuff

2712
02:37:03,060 --> 02:37:08,460
for Thursday. It'll keep Okay,
are you doing twit today? Yeah,

2713
02:37:08,460 --> 02:37:10,890
I am. It's okay. Good, though,
then I then I have to leave you

2714
02:37:10,890 --> 02:37:14,940
with a couple of thoughts. Oh,
god. Yeah, of course. So write

2715
02:37:14,940 --> 02:37:19,650
this down. Okay, because this
will be a topic on twit. And

2716
02:37:19,650 --> 02:37:22,080
you're going to say the
following. Because I read your

2717
02:37:22,080 --> 02:37:25,380
column. I liked your column a
lot about you saying that the

2718
02:37:25,380 --> 02:37:29,130
Google glasses I don't call it
Google logic. Google Glasses is

2719
02:37:29,130 --> 02:37:33,240
what I call them. That it's a
hoax. And and so this is going

2720
02:37:33,240 --> 02:37:35,970
to come up this con is going to
come up but you need to use the

2721
02:37:35,970 --> 02:37:39,810
following term. Ready? Okay,
glass holes.

2722
02:37:40,890 --> 02:37:43,740
Glass hole. Fill a slip that in?
I think I can

2723
02:37:43,740 --> 02:37:46,740
slip it in. Last holes.

2724
02:37:47,400 --> 02:37:49,320
Yeah, no, I we're gonna talk
about that for sure. Because I

2725
02:37:49,320 --> 02:37:52,830
told them I'm coming on to talk
about it. Yeah. So let me do one

2726
02:37:52,830 --> 02:37:53,430
last thing.

2727
02:37:53,460 --> 02:37:55,050
What do I want to talk about?
You don't want to talk about

2728
02:37:55,050 --> 02:37:57,210
this particular column? Because
I think it was really good.

2729
02:37:58,230 --> 02:38:00,930
Yeah, okay. People should read
it on PC Magazine Friday

2730
02:38:01,170 --> 02:38:06,180
edition. And it's a column that
says I looking at the evidence

2731
02:38:06,180 --> 02:38:09,660
over time. And the fact this has
taken forever and that there's

2732
02:38:09,660 --> 02:38:11,400
been a bunch of setups you
should read the column because

2733
02:38:11,400 --> 02:38:14,760
got all the details. Yeah, I
think Google Glasses is a hoax.

2734
02:38:14,789 --> 02:38:19,019
I really like that is a very
that column was one of the

2735
02:38:19,199 --> 02:38:21,929
closest to no agenda
deconstruction have ever seen.

2736
02:38:22,439 --> 02:38:27,689
And by the way, I retweeted it.
People hate me. Because of

2737
02:38:27,689 --> 02:38:30,749
course, they think I'm endorsing
it, which I do. But it's like,

2738
02:38:30,990 --> 02:38:34,890
Man, I got tons of retweets, and
nobody complained about what

2739
02:38:34,890 --> 02:38:38,160
that's because as you said, I
agree. This is obviously a hoax.

2740
02:38:38,190 --> 02:38:38,940
Oh, really,

2741
02:38:38,940 --> 02:38:41,670
I got a lot of men, this is the
best thing to happen to

2742
02:38:41,670 --> 02:38:43,590
computing since the mouse.

2743
02:38:43,950 --> 02:38:45,660
And if people are following you,

2744
02:38:46,199 --> 02:38:48,509
I don't know. Glass holes,

2745
02:38:48,840 --> 02:38:50,010
glass hole.

2746
02:38:52,440 --> 02:38:54,690
I don't know if I made it up
because I tried to get glass

2747
02:38:54,690 --> 02:38:58,590
holes.com. And it's taken. So
there's no website, but I'm

2748
02:38:58,590 --> 02:39:00,300
like, Ah, that's a bummer. That
was so

2749
02:39:01,050 --> 02:39:04,110
good. Before we leave. I do want
to mention these FBI raids,

2750
02:39:04,650 --> 02:39:08,160
since we have a bunch of them in
the show notes. Now. There's a

2751
02:39:08,160 --> 02:39:11,430
bunch of stuff going on. And I
have a clip from the Oakland

2752
02:39:11,790 --> 02:39:14,340
event which nobody really knows
what it's about, even though

2753
02:39:14,340 --> 02:39:17,580
it's apparently busing, some
Mexican warlords or something in

2754
02:39:17,580 --> 02:39:22,980
Oakland. But there's been a
bunch of this and JC buzzkill

2755
02:39:22,980 --> 02:39:27,570
Jr's mentioned that he actually
has a friend who has disappeared

2756
02:39:28,050 --> 02:39:30,690
from one of the previous FBI
raids and no one's seen or

2757
02:39:30,690 --> 02:39:36,000
heard. Or just disappearing.
Multiple hear that? Yes. And

2758
02:39:36,000 --> 02:39:39,030
this is going on. This is all in
advance of May Day apparently a

2759
02:39:39,030 --> 02:39:45,000
May Day and blackness group. Oh,
wait, wait. No, that's may 5.

2760
02:39:46,920 --> 02:39:50,910
Sorry, at least. At least two
houses in Olympia and two in

2761
02:39:50,910 --> 02:39:53,610
Seattle were visited this
morning by the FBI looking for a

2762
02:39:53,610 --> 02:39:56,460
few different people. At least
one of the people is being

2763
02:39:56,460 --> 02:39:59,460
sought because the FBI wants to
interview them about Mayday

2764
02:39:59,460 --> 02:40:04,920
slash black block, block block.
Black block is a group out of

2765
02:40:04,920 --> 02:40:07,500
Germany that came over here. And
they were largely responsible

2766
02:40:07,500 --> 02:40:09,930
for most of the violence that's
been taking place in a lot of

2767
02:40:09,930 --> 02:40:12,780
these events. And they're the
ones who'd caused all the

2768
02:40:12,780 --> 02:40:17,070
trouble at the WTO protests in
Seattle. We need to get on the

2769
02:40:17,070 --> 02:40:21,450
Bible one thing to see exactly
who they are, right? God knows,

2770
02:40:21,750 --> 02:40:26,190
at this point, it's possibly an
intelligence operation gone

2771
02:40:26,220 --> 02:40:29,430
amok, run amok? You know, at
this point, it's unclear whether

2772
02:40:29,430 --> 02:40:31,890
there are subpoenas for either
of the people the FBI is looking

2773
02:40:31,890 --> 02:40:36,270
for, or whether they're trying a
more informal approach. And

2774
02:40:36,270 --> 02:40:40,440
apparently, there's a lot of
people that if the FBI comes

2775
02:40:40,440 --> 02:40:42,390
you're not supposed to talk to
him anyway, according to the guy

2776
02:40:42,390 --> 02:40:44,970
that we had the whistleblower if
you remember that clip, this is

2777
02:40:44,970 --> 02:40:47,280
don't talk to the FBI. They're
just not they're not

2778
02:40:47,280 --> 02:40:52,350
trustworthy, right? Was the
apparently the what's going on a

2779
02:40:52,350 --> 02:40:56,160
sale. They've got the word out.
If the FBI comes a knockin, you

2780
02:40:56,190 --> 02:40:58,260
tell him you don't want to talk
to him and you close the door on

2781
02:40:58,260 --> 02:41:02,970
him. Yeah. And with the right
kind of warrants kick in the

2782
02:41:02,970 --> 02:41:07,770
door. Yes. Apparently, what
they've discovered is that

2783
02:41:08,190 --> 02:41:12,810
kicking in the door, if you're,
if you're fed involves all kinds

2784
02:41:12,810 --> 02:41:17,310
of extra paperwork. How
annoying. So they don't do it.

2785
02:41:17,310 --> 02:41:21,270
They don't think oh, why do you
wait for me to come outside and

2786
02:41:21,270 --> 02:41:23,880
then they grab you or they do
other thing? They put a hood

2787
02:41:23,880 --> 02:41:27,510
over your door? Yeah, you have a
little better chance than the

2788
02:41:27,510 --> 02:41:29,520
local police. They don't care.
They'll just kick in your door,

2789
02:41:29,520 --> 02:41:32,220
right? But there's no paperwork
involved for them. And that's

2790
02:41:32,220 --> 02:41:34,590
apparently a big, big issue
because I guess people bitched

2791
02:41:34,590 --> 02:41:37,320
and moaned about all these doors
being kicked in. And this goes

2792
02:41:37,320 --> 02:41:43,320
way back, and I've tracked it
back to 2010, with some some

2793
02:41:43,320 --> 02:41:46,980
reports about EFS when they were
arresting 16 Anonymous hacking

2794
02:41:46,980 --> 02:41:52,800
suspects nationwide. But back in
March the 2013. Nationwide, FBA

2795
02:41:52,800 --> 02:41:55,650
right raids on activists were
going on in Minneapolis,

2796
02:41:55,650 --> 02:41:58,920
Chicago, Michigan and North
Carolina. And again, it was

2797
02:41:58,920 --> 02:42:02,220
something that it's all a
prelude to this Mayday thing,

2798
02:42:02,220 --> 02:42:06,600
which I don't know anything
about. Very weird. So I don't

2799
02:42:06,600 --> 02:42:09,600
want to look into it. And what
is the clip you've had here?

2800
02:42:09,600 --> 02:42:13,110
What is this clip is the crazy
event that just took place?

2801
02:42:13,260 --> 02:42:15,780
Place in Oakland, I think it was
last night.

2802
02:42:16,289 --> 02:42:17,519
And that breaking news. He's

2803
02:42:17,520 --> 02:42:19,710
in West Oakland tonight. Good
evening. I'm Dan national. And

2804
02:42:19,710 --> 02:42:22,980
I'm Carolyn Johnson. The FBI and
Oakland Police raided an

2805
02:42:22,980 --> 02:42:25,530
apartment building late tonight
in your Seventh Street and

2806
02:42:25,530 --> 02:42:28,530
Linden, ABC SEVEN NEWS REPORTER
Alan Wong is live at police

2807
02:42:28,530 --> 02:42:30,480
headquarters with the latest for
asylum.

2808
02:42:31,740 --> 02:42:36,030
Carolyn flashbang grenades went
off. Residents were forced from

2809
02:42:36,030 --> 02:42:38,730
their homes and we are still
waiting for the Oakland Police

2810
02:42:38,730 --> 02:42:41,670
Department to tell us what is
going on. Sounds

2811
02:42:41,670 --> 02:42:45,480
like a typical case of rescuing
to me, John is not how the

2812
02:42:45,480 --> 02:42:47,190
police rescues people these
days.

2813
02:42:47,340 --> 02:42:51,930
Here's what we saw several FBI
agents in tactical gear with

2814
02:42:51,930 --> 02:42:55,920
fully automatic weapons outside
of the city tower apartment

2815
02:42:55,920 --> 02:42:59,130
building at seventh and Linden,
Oakland police officers in

2816
02:42:59,130 --> 02:43:02,730
uniform appeared to be assisting
with traffic and the arrest of

2817
02:43:02,730 --> 02:43:06,270
one man at this location.
Witnesses say they raided two

2818
02:43:06,270 --> 02:43:10,200
other apartment buildings in the
city tower complex and evacuated

2819
02:43:10,200 --> 02:43:14,040
the residence. We saw them carry
out one bag of evidence but so

2820
02:43:14,040 --> 02:43:17,310
far there's been no explanation
and the residents are looking

2821
02:43:17,310 --> 02:43:18,180
for answers.

2822
02:43:19,170 --> 02:43:22,440
When I get to the lobby, it was
so many polls in the lobby that

2823
02:43:22,440 --> 02:43:24,750
they put me up against the wall
and as we didn't have any guns,

2824
02:43:24,780 --> 02:43:27,390
guns, they didn't actually have
any guns. I said no, I'm just

2825
02:43:27,390 --> 02:43:30,570
looking for my kids. We don't
know what's going on. They never

2826
02:43:30,570 --> 02:43:32,580
told us what was going on. I
just got a standing out here.

2827
02:43:32,580 --> 02:43:34,530
I'm trying to get in the house
with my kids. It's 10 o'clock.

2828
02:43:34,530 --> 02:43:35,850
We've been out here since seven
o'clock.

2829
02:43:37,050 --> 02:43:40,020
You've been rescued. Now it's
unusual to see local law

2830
02:43:40,020 --> 02:43:43,560
enforcement and the FBI working
a combined and coordinated

2831
02:43:43,560 --> 02:43:47,040
operation like this one. They
went in prepared for any type of

2832
02:43:47,040 --> 02:43:51,450
resistance, but it looks like it
was an incident free night. This

2833
02:43:51,450 --> 02:43:56,580
was obviously a raid. But again,
the law enforcement has not been

2834
02:43:56,580 --> 02:44:00,540
forthcoming in the details of
this evening and we hope to

2835
02:44:00,540 --> 02:44:03,840
bring you more information in
our morning newscast beginning

2836
02:44:03,960 --> 02:44:08,070
at 4:30am. Reporting live at the
Oakland Police Headquarters. I'm

2837
02:44:08,070 --> 02:44:10,320
Alan Wong, ABC Seven News.

2838
02:44:11,400 --> 02:44:15,780
Now, the report was it was a
drug bust of some sort, which

2839
02:44:15,780 --> 02:44:19,350
seems unlikely considering the
montem arm arm. They had armored

2840
02:44:19,350 --> 02:44:22,590
trucks and I mean armored gear
armored tanks, not tanks, but

2841
02:44:22,770 --> 02:44:27,810
these crazy looking things and
weapons of war weapons of war on

2842
02:44:27,810 --> 02:44:32,010
the streets. But if that was the
case, why wasn't it the DEA as

2843
02:44:32,010 --> 02:44:33,540
opposed to the FBI?

2844
02:44:34,080 --> 02:44:38,130
I don't know John, it doesn't
matter. It's going to be our

2845
02:44:38,130 --> 02:44:40,980
turn eventually. You know let's
hope we get to live a little bit

2846
02:44:40,980 --> 02:44:43,890
longer before we get
disappointed I'm sorry, rescued,

2847
02:44:44,310 --> 02:44:52,230
rescued at the end of a gun I'm
sorry, but buzzkill Junior's

2848
02:44:52,230 --> 02:44:52,860
friend.

2849
02:44:54,090 --> 02:44:55,350
Yeah, he's disappeared.

2850
02:44:57,120 --> 02:45:00,300
Is that his imaginary friend?
No, no, he's real. Friends,

2851
02:45:00,570 --> 02:45:02,610
friends, that sucks.

2852
02:45:03,270 --> 02:45:06,600
Yeah, apparently it was just
taken by the FBI when it just

2853
02:45:06,600 --> 02:45:08,730
disappeared. He hasn't been they
know it can get a hold of him

2854
02:45:09,120 --> 02:45:10,890
knows where he is. Nobody knows
nothing.

2855
02:45:10,950 --> 02:45:12,360
This this is not good. I

2856
02:45:12,360 --> 02:45:17,970
get mo Hey guy committed suicide
and Gitmo. Oh crap, that's gonna

2857
02:45:17,970 --> 02:45:20,910
screw up our count. Let's bring
another guy in and just put them

2858
02:45:20,910 --> 02:45:25,500
in here. 123 Yeah, they're all
here. Yep. Wow.

2859
02:45:26,550 --> 02:45:31,710
Okay, so congratulations Italia
with your newly appointed prime

2860
02:45:31,710 --> 02:45:37,770
minister, good work. Why do you
even bother going to elections

2861
02:45:37,770 --> 02:45:41,190
at all this is going to appoint
some guy. So good luck on that.

2862
02:45:41,550 --> 02:45:46,500
lowlands. Good luck with your
lonely crazies on the 30th.

2863
02:45:46,500 --> 02:45:50,340
We'll be talking about that on
Thursday, I'm sure. And perhaps

2864
02:45:50,340 --> 02:45:54,840
I can just play you out with the
meme of the week, which will be

2865
02:45:54,840 --> 02:45:58,500
coming up this week. Um,
depending on whatever terror we

2866
02:45:58,500 --> 02:46:01,440
have, you know, terror ink
strikes, you never know what can

2867
02:46:01,440 --> 02:46:06,570
happen. But if we can just
please get back to recruiting

2868
02:46:06,600 --> 02:46:10,140
women to vote for the Democratic
Party and not for Republicans,

2869
02:46:10,140 --> 02:46:14,850
which of course is why we have
this whole gun debate. Have the

2870
02:46:14,850 --> 02:46:18,390
mean and it comes up at the end
of this 45 second report, you're

2871
02:46:18,390 --> 02:46:20,250
ready. It

2872
02:46:20,310 --> 02:46:23,730
to need to know. Thanks for
joining us. The topic of gun

2873
02:46:23,730 --> 02:46:26,490
control has been front and
center ever since last

2874
02:46:26,490 --> 02:46:29,520
December's Elementary School
mass shooting in Newtown,

2875
02:46:29,520 --> 02:46:33,570
Connecticut. And that discussion
inevitably leads to another one

2876
02:46:33,780 --> 02:46:37,350
about the Second Amendment to
the Constitution, a mere 27

2877
02:46:37,350 --> 02:46:42,600
words from 1791 that continue to
inspire fierce debate more than

2878
02:46:42,600 --> 02:46:43,830
two centuries later,

2879
02:46:44,160 --> 02:46:46,590
a critical part of the Bill of
Rights the Second Amendment

2880
02:46:46,620 --> 02:46:47,820
decade agenda to

2881
02:46:47,820 --> 02:46:49,020
attack the Second Amendment

2882
02:46:49,050 --> 02:46:51,270
while preserving our Second
Amendment rights. They all

2883
02:46:51,270 --> 02:46:53,130
support the second amendment as
to why the

2884
02:46:53,130 --> 02:46:56,790
Second Amendment is protected.
There is a second amendment

2885
02:46:56,790 --> 02:46:57,990
right to bear arms.

2886
02:46:58,380 --> 02:47:01,980
The term second amendment is
tossed around all the time. But

2887
02:47:01,980 --> 02:47:05,640
what do you really know about
it? Who was behind it? What were

2888
02:47:05,640 --> 02:47:09,150
its authors trying to achieve?
And most importantly, how does

2889
02:47:09,150 --> 02:47:12,780
it apply today, when muskets
have been replaced by semi

2890
02:47:12,780 --> 02:47:15,390
automatics? Joining us and
that's it.

2891
02:47:15,840 --> 02:47:17,820
muskets is the meme of the week.

2892
02:47:18,510 --> 02:47:21,090
I've seen that I've heard that
meme before yeah.

2893
02:47:21,720 --> 02:47:26,250
Oh yeah, it's coming. This when
they wrote that they use muskets

2894
02:47:27,180 --> 02:47:30,630
they also had cannons in their
backyard Yeah, exactly. The

2895
02:47:30,630 --> 02:47:34,200
ashes clay the brother of Henry
Claire of nephew or

2896
02:47:34,380 --> 02:47:36,060
not Muhammad Ali. Yes.

2897
02:47:37,200 --> 02:47:42,510
Right who was visited actually
Muhammad Ali in this in that era

2898
02:47:42,540 --> 02:47:45,870
had had to he because he was an
abolitionist. He had to load his

2899
02:47:45,870 --> 02:47:48,090
cannon up with a bunch of broken
glass and the rest of it and

2900
02:47:48,090 --> 02:47:50,820
shoot it at the sheriff and the
police department that was

2901
02:47:50,820 --> 02:47:54,390
coming in to kick the crap out
of him and kill him. And he used

2902
02:47:54,390 --> 02:48:01,170
the cannon to protect himself.
Try doing that today. Anyway

2903
02:48:02,820 --> 02:48:08,820
Well, I'm a little lesbian story
didn't pick me up John. I'm and

2904
02:48:08,820 --> 02:48:09,090
this is.

2905
02:48:10,740 --> 02:48:14,310
Well, I tell you why we knew
that was a real shorty. It's a

2906
02:48:14,310 --> 02:48:18,660
classic. It's uplifting because
you got an uplifting ending. It

2907
02:48:18,660 --> 02:48:23,940
is a little bit by Diane Sawyer.
Sing a segment you really Oh,

2908
02:48:23,940 --> 02:48:24,270
good.

2909
02:48:24,300 --> 02:48:26,160
Is she drunk? Yeah, I

2910
02:48:26,160 --> 02:48:28,950
don't think so. Okay, all right.
She's a little she may be on

2911
02:48:29,070 --> 02:48:29,520
Valley.

2912
02:48:29,550 --> 02:48:32,280
Oh, perfect. Well, in the
morning, everybody in the

2913
02:48:32,280 --> 02:48:36,060
morning, will Harris over there
checking us out, along with his

2914
02:48:36,180 --> 02:48:40,500
weekend podcast listening. And
in the morning to you my friend.

2915
02:48:40,980 --> 02:48:43,920
I'm Adam curry here in Austin,
Texas,

2916
02:48:44,340 --> 02:48:46,710
and from Northern Silicon
Valley, and we remind people to

2917
02:48:46,710 --> 02:48:50,400
go to dork.org/na when you get
the chance. I'm John C. Dvorak.

2918
02:48:50,400 --> 02:48:50,580
We'll be

2919
02:48:50,580 --> 02:48:54,150
back on Thursday with another
thrilling episode. The best

2920
02:48:54,150 --> 02:48:58,950
podcast and universe. No agenda
show. Hit it Diane. Our instance

2921
02:48:58,950 --> 02:49:01,680
index tonight begins with a
piece of history we know a

2922
02:49:01,680 --> 02:49:05,820
picture is worth 1000 words. But
what about the camera? We all

2923
02:49:05,820 --> 02:49:09,690
remember the iconic picture a
sailor a nurse a kiss for a

2924
02:49:09,690 --> 02:49:13,020
lifetime in Times Square
celebrating the end of World War

2925
02:49:13,020 --> 02:49:17,040
Two. Well tonight, a mystery
revealed about the camera and

2926
02:49:17,040 --> 02:49:20,610
the camera man behind the
timeless shot. The camera was

2927
02:49:20,610 --> 02:49:24,240
made in Germany the photographer
was Jewish forced to flee

2928
02:49:24,240 --> 02:49:28,140
Germany during the war. And look
there he is his camera dangling

2929
02:49:28,140 --> 02:49:32,940
by his side and then his own
embrace his own version of that

2930
02:49:32,940 --> 02:49:37,680
kiss. And also tonight an
incredible image and story of

2931
02:49:37,680 --> 02:49:41,340
survival. They are calling him
the miracle baby born amid the

2932
02:49:41,340 --> 02:49:46,830
ruins in China after the
devastating 7.0 earthquake. An

2933
02:49:46,830 --> 02:49:50,070
army of doctors and volunteers
coming together to bring the

2934
02:49:50,070 --> 02:49:54,510
little boy into this world and
their mother and child safe and

2935
02:49:54,510 --> 02:50:00,450
blast together. It is so great
to have that ending At

2936
02:50:00,990 --> 02:50:11,070
audio.org/n A