It's going to create a nuclear winter. Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak.
Sunday, April 28 2013. Time for your gizmo nation media
assassination episode 508.
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In the capital of the drone Star State Austin take house in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley 73. I'm John C. Dvorak. Hill.
Spoken like a true ham who doesn't do anything about it? He
has no idea what he's talking about.
That's right. I don't know. 7373
you might say that at the end of the show, saying at the
beginning as a little little lame. Dude, dude, dude, we
missed an opportunity. Dude. We must we must remember to do this
properly next year. It because I think it's like the third year
in a row and probably saying this whenever they have the
White House Correspondents Dinner in Washington DC also
known as what it was like hashtag nerd Tromm douche fest
douche Palooza fest as a hashtag for
now, but somehow they thought it was C span thought it was cool
to call it nerd prom. This is not nerd prom douche palooza.
Yeah, but
let's face it. That's that that was sent down obviously by the
group. They started to do that. Because that was the punch line
to that good lame video that yes, the operation put together.
Wait a minute. Which video is that?
Do you mean they're spacey video? I didn't see
this. Kevin's what? Did I miss this?
I missed a long introduction video and Ed Henry the head of
the organization that puts on this thing. And he played a the
guys not funny. By the way. He's a fox guy. I think Fox people
generally have no sense of humor
in it. Let's just explain to people who do not live. In fact,
most people have no idea we're talking about except, because
who the heck knows about this? So every year, the White House
Correspondents that would be the the people who sit in the White
House and ask questions or basically received the script
and then read it on their on their cable channels, airwaves.
They have a dinner. And this dinner is has progressed over
the decades into a total douche fest. But of course it kind of I
don't know I don't have a problem with it makes a lot of
sense. Because you can only get a table if you're a news
organization.
But then you're allowed to buy the table $2,500 a pop
per per seat, right? Not
per table, per table. Oh, no, I thought it was proceeding.
They explained you'd miss this to the guy went through a long,
detailed menu, the prices and oh no, I
missed all of this. This
is annoying. You told me you were watching for two hours when
I
was watching it for two hours. And that was the red carpet
which there was no Ryan Seacrest. This is the mistake.
No, but they had Claire Danes, who I didn't realize it but
apparently cannot walk in high heels.
No, but I'm talking about. I'm talking about the press. So
anyway, so So you you've $2,500 A table apparently, which I
think is cheap. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is 10,000 a
table for 10 seats.
Yeah, this is very cheap. But you can't not Not anyone can buy
a table. It's it's exclusive in that regard. Right?
Exactly. So you have to you have to be a press organization. And
then you can invite whoever you want to invite. And of course,
this has gotten a little more crazy over the years, although I
don't think so because, you know, this is these celebrities
who are invited, they are the true bread and butter of the
news industry. So to me, it makes total sense that they
invite these people. I mean, I don't see any, any issue with
that at all. But this has now become controversial. And, but
so, so. Okay, good jigs keep explaining that because I have a
couple of couple of things I want to ask. Okay.
All right. And then I have I have one, one clip. So But
typically, this is kind of like a roast, if you will also a very
traditional American kind of thing, where the the President
will make fun of the either a little bit of himself a little
bit of the relationship between him and the press. But then
also, you know, just about whatever whatever's going on at
at the at the moment current events. You know, we've had
President Obama say some pretty interesting things in the past.
This is one of my favorites. I have two
words for you. Predator drones,
which of course, you know, it's always hilarious, hilarious. So
I feel though, you know, the truth is often spoken and they
bring it in I agree. And they bring in a, you know, a
celebrated comedian to, you know, to host the evening. So
basically, it's just who has is no joke writers because both the
President and in this case, Conan O'Brien just reading off
the jokes, President I will say, very relaxed. I felt he did a
good job. You know, it wasn't like, they weren't like knee
slappers, you know, it was like, okay, it was pretty, it was
okay. Then it was appropriate. And you know how we toned it
down because of the tragedy. But of course, it really is a whole,
you know, shut up and let them eat cake. thing that's happening
here. And then nothing is more funny to me when you see
celebrate ease and new celebrate ease on the red carpet. And
they're waiting in line to walk the red carpet and you see how
you see how the women are turning and posing and what that
needs. John, what that needs is you and I are idiots, it needs
you and I you know doing a voiceover and talking about
them. I mean, can't you just see how that would be perfect. It'd
be great. And we can miss Mickey for color when we don't remember
who you know who we don't know who someone is Bible and
know who half of them are. Because no, no, I think we would
look you up you would know more than me. You know, I
think no, I think I mean, it took me 10 minutes to figure out
that her name was Kathleen Turner. I'm like, Who's that fat
one? Right. You know what I mean? No, but I was like, is it
simple? Shepard? No, it's like, but, but I think we could
totally do it. You know, we could do? Let me see, do we have
a we have a crowd thing.
So what we needed what we actually, you know, I'm thinking
we should actually do this. We need the feed. Well, people
watching? No, I think it's just been fun.
I think that what we can do next time, because it's live on the
internet. So anyone can listen, you know? So you can have like
the simulcast. You could be watching the video and then have
our voiceover. You know, could you be like, oh, there's George
Stephanopoulos, you know, you know, and we could talk about
how tiny he is away and Conan did all those jokes already. But
you know, it's like, yeah, it can be fun. I can see where that
could that would be worthwhile.
So I'm not convincing you besides the red carpet. They
also had a little photo shoot area that was one of those
backdrops. It was a backdrop but shooting away. So apparently had
CBS that brought in Claire Danes. And so they saw and who
was her who was there? It seemed to be her I think her date.
Oh, it was Bob Schieffer. Yeah, yeah. Well, Oh,
wow. This guy talking about perks for the job. Did you
see him? Did you see that shit eating grin he had on his face
when he came in at a huge shit
eating grin. And he had clear days who couldn't stand up for
the library. And all over the place. I didn't realize that she
was, you know,
well, let me this leads right into two clips that I have. So
the person who has made a stink about this thing and started
last year and this year, you know, it's oh, there's that grew
up. In fact, he is now the buzzkill of the news. news and
entertainment industrial complex is Tom Brokaw. And time and Tom
Brokaw says he actually gives a very good rundown of the history
of this and how it changed into this celebratory fest, and he
pinpoints when it changed. And so you're feeling really good
when you hear him talk about this, but then it turns out,
he's just as full of shit to the rest of them. So listen to this.
It's always a fun
gathering. But work could be done. It was a mix of important
Washington sources who are congressional committee
chairman, both parties would be representative, the
administration would be represented Supreme Court
justices would come and the Washington press corps would go
and we'd have a festive evening, though a lot of kind of
homegrown humor. Not always bringing in and outside or very
often they would get the very clever people who worked in
Washington and they would do routines of some kind. And it
was at the end of the evening. IOI thought productive for both
sides. For those who are public office holders, or appointees of
some kind of the press. We could get to know each other a little
bit and talk about things in a more casual fashion. And then it
began to evolve. It got larger. I remember in 7475 I think it
might have been 75 When the original cast of Saturday Night
Live came down. And it was a big hit with good reason. It was
Chevy and John Belushi and Lorne Michaels brought him in. And it
was appropriate. They were doing a lot of political stuff. And it
kind of raised if you will, the profile of the White House
correspondents. then somewhere along the law. It began to
freewheel out of control. The correspondent who brought fawn
Hall Yeah,
now fawn Hall was Oliver North Secretary right. I think so.
Yeah, I think yeah, she was very pretty. She you know, had kind
of like, gorgeous Farrah Fawcett hair, and but she somehow messed
up the the Iran Contra thing a lot of it has hinged on hers and
all of North Secretary I'm sorry, Oliver North. Yeah, but,
but it was a lot of the Iran Contra hinged on her testimony
of how she somehow deleted something while leaning left and
made a wrong entry. You know, he was very key at the time. And of
course, it was perfect to having a beautiful Secretary involved
in some political scandal really
took her to a different level. Then it became more of a tabloid
kind of dinner. And I watched and I was not serious in any
way. I took Lee Iacocca one year, but I was kind of
embarrassed by the end of the because it was sophomore humor,
and a lot of people drinking way too much. And a lot of, can I
have my picture taken with you? Can I get your autograph to cozy
by half. So I just didn't go anymore. But I would watch on C
span. And as I watched on C span, I will try to put myself
kind of, if you will, in the person of an interested citizen
in Kansas City, or Little Rock, or in Spokane, Washington,
which by the way, the way he says that sounds so elitist by
itself, like oh, you stupid hex. And there was a
bit here. I was watching this. I'd say these guys are douchebag
exactly thing.
That's the Washington press corps. I mean, there was more
dignity at my daughter's junior prom. True than there is what
I'm seeing as the span here. True. Then we got to that point
where everyone had to bring in whatever page six celebrity
happy to be around. And for me, the breaking point was was the
loan. She became a big star at the White House Correspondents
Give me a break.
So you know, I'm like him broke jaw when I hear him talk like
this. But then at the end, here's a little 30 seconds where
he ruins everything and it just shows that he's the same
douchebag as all of them
are was the low on someone who I've cited before. On the other
hand, my friend Bob Schieffer immediately sent me a picture of
him sitting with Claire Danes and saying, Sorry, broke. I'm
not giving this up. I get that. Oh, Claire Danes is not someone
I'm talking about. She's a big deal. And George Clooney loves
to come. In Hollywood. That's fine Looney Claire Dane gone
down market and
you're an asshole broke jaw. And by the way,
Lindsay Lohan her clara de she's
a big deal, John. She's a big deal. She's a big and Clooney
he's a serious guy in Hollywood. Yeah, but here's the question.
What do you think?
Said he'd do it again.
But you're not hearing this?
I heard it. I couldn't understand it.
Drunk or not drunk? not drunk. not drunk. That's just the way
he talks. I've met him I was always impressed by him but that
was like a what a what a what a disappointment from the say
that. Oh, Claire day and she's a big deal. That's okay. I'm Shut
up. It's bad.
He blew it with that. Yeah.
Big time.
Yeah, Lindsay Lohan. I don't like talking. It's just like,
just the he is the hick from Arkansas. Well, I don't like
that Lindsay Lohan. But that Claire Danes just heard his good
looking good looking mighty birdie. And who is that woman
that big Hooters from that family from the Modern Family
shows? She's good. She's
a big deal.
Yeah, yeah. So that's just you know, just proves the whole
point. It has proved it really, really really Joyce's own. Yeah,
but this is so that's exactly what it is. But this is what the
the news and entertainment industrial complex is about.
They need the celebrating because turn on the news. It's
all about the Celebrate ease. Oh, man. So Donnie Wahlberg the
other day on CNN talking about Boston? Yeah, it's like yeah,
just get more celebrities in make Yeah. So I take it I take
it you didn't you didn't know it was Donnie. Sorry, not Mark. It
was Donnie. This is what I'm talking about.
It's ludicrous. But this anyway so the whole event was you know
it was it was for one thing is jammed. I listened to the he had
they read off the menu didn't sound that interesting.
Everybody who was all the publishers and all the mucky
mucks were there I saw Kramer from USA Today who I worked with
over here at MarketWatch. And then his editor used to be the
editor here sitting next to him, and they were just smiling.
Yeah.
And what did I see piers more on, like a
huge waste of time for a major publication to be at this thing
in Washington DC if they're not headquartered there. So
two things and I think he had some questions for me, but so
first of all, did I not see Piers Morgan, walking with Jeff
Zucker as his date was not Jeff Zucker,
Jeff Zucker. I saw him I think he was sitting with I believe it
would,
I think he appears came In his dates,
that's a possibility. It was just, I was I was thinking
Katzenberg was with Spielberg.
I was. Oh, yeah. And then they had the whole Spielberg and
Daniel Day Lewis thing that was just lame. And oh, yeah. What is
it with C span and Buzzfeed? What is it with BuzzFeed in
general? Yeah. So C span is like, oh, a Buzzfeed couldn't
buy a table. They've been excluded. They're doing their
own party. Well, let's do a split screen now. With a pub
where BuzzFeed is doing that. And everyone's talking about
BuzzFeed. What is this? BuzzFeed they speak with love?
Oh, well, that is the spin off of Politico.
I thought it was it's the spin off of Huffington Post, isn't
it? No, no. Isn't the co founder of Huffington Post?
Didn't he said he's the co founder of Politico. No, I
think you're wrong, John. Now I don't think I'm wrong. Yeah, I
do think you're wrong.
Look, the guy's name up and you'll see
okay, but what's the guy's name?
I gotta look it up.
But you know, you look at BuzzFeed is like here. This is
the homepage of BuzzFeed. 17 acapella covers of indie rock
songs. Can you get through this without shaking your butt?
Celebrity fashion at the White House Correspondents Dinner? I
mean, who gives a crap about this?
Okay, here we go. I get it now. All right, you're right. And I'm
right. Oh,
a rare occurrence.
You're born right.
co founded in 2006 by Jonah Peretti, who is the co founder
of The Huffington Post, but it's run by this guy who came over
Ben Smith was the guy who started politico, okay. And he's
and he's the run he runs it. Okay. So it's a combination of
people.
Okay. But this is like heavily
a little party of you know, which actually, you know, who
cares? Let's
see what jobs they have. Can we get a job? There are job
openings. Let me see what we have. Breaking news reporter
huh?
How else? How about means you have to have flatulence
business reporter we can be a business reporter. Let's see.
BuzzFeed is here, John, this is for you. BuzzFeed is hiring a
hungry aggressive, fast and smart business reporters to help
us build a new kind of business vertical for the social web What
do you do? Well, I'm building a new business vertical for the
social web. The successful candidates will have knowledge
and sources in one of the following media and
entertainment business Wall Street specifically the bulge
bracket banks m&a Private Equity hedge funds and venture capital
the technology industry retail particularly big brands of
interest to a digitally native odd 10 Pick up a call isn't
listen to this Listen Listen to how stupid this their English is
even incorrect big brands of interest to a digitally native
audiences okay great great no this is what it says is how bad
it is. Big brands of interest to a digitally native audiences or
another core industry beat as well as a native grasp of hot
news works online oh how news works online sorry. The right
candidate has the ability to turn earnings reports SEC
filings macro economic data and complex financial transactions
into insightful and fun posts. Readers will want to share this
is a job for me yay guess what everybody Apple stock down but
that doesn't mean iPhone six won't be great share share my
queens my post it's gonna be
its share it like like like
responsibilities. Ooh, responsibilities, pitch and
write stories daily. Oh, man. You mean I gotta work for this
job. Wow, that's break news. This is responsibility you must
break news anymore. You break any news yet?
I broke a story I broke it I just busted it up.
Here we go develop sources. Oh, here we go. have the capacity to
pitch report and present stories in non traditional ways.
What does that even mean? Set mean and
appear on radio and TV as necessary to promote the your
and the team's work I swear to god that's what it says. Let me
read that again to you. This is BuzzFeed there this is this is
this the journalistic integrity of their checking their own job
postings appear on radio and TV as necessary to promote the your
and the team's work very good BuzzFeed idiots Wow,
what a convoluted sentence
requirements was not convoluted I think the word the they just
left it in they this is a copy paste from something else and
somehow that because it shouldn't be appear on radio and
TV is necessary to promote your and the team's work but it's the
your requirements business reporting experience. I got that
I think I qualify comfort dealing with financial data and
high level executives, your social media presence that John
will your 50,000 followers your way up Their 88 Be a team
player. Oh, oh, I'm so sorry. No haters, no haters, John. No
haters. That's a requirement. He believe that no haters, it says
that this is no haters, yes.
says no. No, no, you're just kidding. No.
Oh,
no haters.
Wow. Yeah. Buzz these are boring publications.
BuzzFeed is the most important publication online since the
Huffington Post. And politico, which is owned by the Washington
Post, is it not isn't owned by someone. Anyway,
looking for something to hate.
Don't be a hate. Now, you had some questions about this for
me.
I believe. I forgot already.
Okay, and we don't have any clips.
No, I was thinking you were gonna get some clips. I couldn't
really get any clips. There was a couple of clips that I'll just
tell you what they were that I would have got. One is where
Obama and I think this was serious, because as you say,
Truth does come out during
Oh, wait, let me guess where he said. I'm no longer the
strapping young Muslim socialist that I was. No, no, because I
thought that was like, okay, that's true.
Yeah, no, I agree. I agree. That that was one of the
possibilities, but no other one was I would have not run if
Shelly Adelson had given me $100 million. Yeah. And then he threw
the threw it to, to the First Lady and said, Michelle thought
about it.
No, it's as I thought about it. No, Michelle throw. Right.
Right. Right. That's what it was. She's like laughing.
He basically put a price.
Yeah, he had a price price. 100 million bucks. Allison's spent
more apparently spent more than that. He was being berated by by
the president Adelson. Shelley. You basically said, you know,
you wasted all your money last year. You just threw it away.
You could have just given it to me and you've been done with me.
And I'd be out of here and I'd be a happy camper. Yep.
Essentially what he said. Oh, yeah, it was a joke. He was just
kidding around. No, right. He said he wasn't kidding around.
He said he thought about and his wife thought it. I believe it.
I believe it.
I totally believe there wouldn't but there was no offer, of
course, this aggravation, but there was no offer. There was no
offer. No, there wasn't I mean, but he just he that's what he
was. He was scolding Adelson for not thinking clearly. And he
saved some money got
what you wanted. How come there's never like a bomb at
those events.
You know, as they were milling out, they had this nice camera
at the end of showing all these people coming on the show. I
didn't know she was there. Oh, look who it is. Yeah. And all
these people were trying to trying to weasel their way out.
It was jammed. It was crowded. It was not a big room.
Did you see the dogs, the sniffer dogs on the red carpet?
At a certain point like the sniffer dog takes off after one
of these women who's standing outside. And it was just it was
just like, you know, that whole thing is bizarre, but it really
it needs a curry DeVore at commentary red carpet. Hi,
George Stephanopoulos who you wearing? I mean, that's really,
really wearing that's really what we're that's really what
was missing.
Yeah, who are you wearing is where you're wearing? Yeah. Oh,
hey,
Newt Gingrich. By the way, any new gainers will talk to
anybody? Oh my God. He just did like what? And he didn't want
to. Okay, some point. Case in point. Exactly. Wow. Hey, let's
let's boogie right on through and thank No, wait. Let me say
in the morning to you John C. Dvorak
in the morning to you, Adam curry in the morning. Do all the
ships at sea out there and boots on the ground and the feet in
the air and the subs in the water in the Knights and Dames
out.
That's right security X to all of you and the chat room. No
agenda stream.com no agenda chat. dotnet Can you tell them
getting excited about hamvention
Oh, hamvention you're gonna go? No, you're gonna have your
device.
I wish now I won't have it ready this year? No, the ham van. It's
It's on. It's May 17. It's like two and a half weeks. I won't be
ready. It's in Dayton, Ohio. I wish I could go though and be
kind of cool. It's funny when you look at the at the website,
it's like, you can rent scooters, electric scooters.
It's like really bad is a bad image for the hands.
A horrible image isn't mean.
I gotta get a scooter to go around it. There's old Bob,
this is literally what it is.
Yeah, yeah.
Let us thank our producers, as you know, unlike the the
douchebag fest that we saw on television that we actually have
produces for our show. Unlike C span who just think they can get
away with it and you know there it goes it serves serve nobody
just a couple of dudes like John and I sitting there laughing at
all the idiots but when it comes to the no agenda show we have
people who actually really support us and not just with
finances but also with information that we have our
sources they won't take payments they wouldn't we don't have
commercials running so that we're compromised in any way
shape No, no, but if Shelly Allison want
to analysis so you know, you can't buy analysis we have to do
it ourselves. You do
you do if Shelly Adelson would pay us 100 million though.
Do we be done? Yeah.
We've been Hey, boy. Wasn't Lindsay Lohan awesome. Claire
Danes rocks. We'll be right on board in a heartbeat.
John Harrison from Pinehurst, North Carolina will be our
executive producer for show 508 And he's in Pinehurst North
Carolina request. A MILF shout out the grown up version, not
the child who creeps me out a little me too. And a shot of
karma is creepy. It's like a little vote. Yeah, it's creepy.
And a shot at karma from my lovely wife, Sherry, keep up the
great work. And he should have.
He's on the list. It's on
the list. It gets a night knighting. And that's right.
That's one mother. You've got karma.
If I can just talk to the engine room for a minute, if we could
turn on the air conditioning that would be helpful. Thank
you.
Loving Heinrich Yeager Heinrich Gager I guess in Fort Walton,
Florida for 508 Benebone are now a donor I've took a about time I
took a moment to give back for all the value for value that
I've gotten. I want to call out Jeff who I work with as a
douchebag. Having listened for years and never donating even
though he is the one who hit me in the mouth, I have been
listening since show 320 Something I've lost track now.
But I've listened to every single show here and there while
I drive or while I'm at work. My main love for the show is that
when listening, I know that there's someone else out there
who sees behind the curtain, that there are others who see
the state that our world is in and where it's going and do not
approve. I've always felt outside of my peers. I could
never understand why they accepted the bullcrap that they
were fed, or why they bought, bought into the marketing and
the lies that were constantly shoved in their faces. But
definitely been exposed to a much wider spider web of lies
and bullcrap. Since I began listening, and I'm still in the
fence, whether or not I'm better off
for it. So this he sent a very long email and I asked the
buzzkill Jr, to put it in the spreadsheet, which he did. And I
just like to skip ahead to the part that I thought was very
funny. And he's a very knowledgeable guy, and I can
tell you where he works. But he has a lot of information. He
knows that we're right on about a lot of things. And here's what
he said, which I found interesting. I've been wanting
to donate for a long time now at least 100 episodes however,
something that you've always said Adam, of course, always
stood in my way. On numerous occasions you have stated
something to the effect of it always sounds good and like they
know what they're talking about until they get to a subject that
you the listener actually know something about, then their
blatant ignorance makes you question everything else that
they have just said. Unfortunately, there are a
couple of occasions when you have fallen into that trap. And
as always right when I am nearly on the verge of donating notable
instances. What do you think is his example that I don't know
that I'm not knowledgeable about?
The cold fusion?
Oh, that would be incorrect.
Let me guess. Let me guess. How NASCAR works its restarts
Sorry, sorry, you're not even close.
Let's see. More. Okay. Baseball stats. Oh,
I'm so sorry, John. That is incorrect. No. The topic of
furries. Apparently I am very anovulatory stories. And the
people who dress up furry and I know
furries. In fact, I have a whole when I went to the graduation
This is John
C. Dvorak who is now speaking and He is presumably very
knowledgeable about the Furies.
Well, my knowledge stems from buzzkill Jr, who graduated from
Evergreen where people could die at Evergreen when they have
which is one of the more famous colleges in the country for
being wacky. So you go to the graduation people can dress up
anywhere they want some put a cap and gown on somewhere
stripper outfit some of the girls some
what school is this? I mean, right this evergreen there's a
couple of
the girls Like, wow. So anyway, and and there are a number of
furries that attend the school and they dress up as their
character. And they take their graduation they grabbed their
diploma dressed up as a squirrel or a rabbit, or whatever. And so
I was asking, I was taking pictures because I had my
camera's just shooting shots all over the place. And I thought
that these guys were just kind of funny. I didn't realize that
they were sick. This was some sort of a sexual.
See, this is what I said. And apparently I was wrong. And I
think our executive producer here behind me, you know,
unfortunately, Heinrich, you didn't send me like the correct
information so I can
I believe you weren't wrong.
I believe our producer here is a furry and I'd like to know more
about what's going on. I would love to hear for In fact, I
would love to interview him as a furry.
If you have, well, they would love to be interviewed, I'm sure
and generally speaking, if they're like the, whatever they
furry, whatever furry they are, indicate some of their sexual
relation. This was always my understanding. But
yes, and so if you're a rabbit, you'd like to screw a lot,
especially with the girls and you know, so there'll be wrapped
dread rabbits and squirrels and they and they usually have sex
in the outfit.
This is my understanding as well. But apparently,
apparently,
I you hear let me get that can I take a wild guess? You have a
son who's a furry. And you get suspicious about his crazy
activities and the people he's hanging out with and he gives
you a cock and bull story about what it's all about. It's just a
club where we read books, and we go down we dance at the ash
ganache and Berkeley, we connect, and we jump around and
my girlfriend, the rabbit sheep, she likes to do the bunny hop.
That's your favorite dance. And that's why she wears that outfit
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Okay, so he's in the chat room. How do i pronounce it? Keys Can
you pronounce it in the in the chat room? Trainwreck I think
it's Henrik and not Heinrich. Now it'll take 20 seconds to
figure it out
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Of course very important for every single one of you whether
you donate or not to go out and propagate our formula formula is
this. We go out we hit people in the mouth
well done now Henrik is all upset. He says you know he's
He's specifically asked me. He says in the email, you know, I'm
sure you won't read parts on this that will identify me. are
we identifying him with his furry thing? No.
If he has a son who's a furry?
Well, I hope he's not angry. I didn't I didn't. I didn't say my
I didn't say where he works.
And by the way, the rain stick I believe now I've been working on
technique. I think he had Oh, no, no last Oh, no one's fall at
the end. And it sounds like
rock and I just say, I'm getting in trouble here. So there was a
house concert a benefit concert yesterday. It was it was it was
pretty cool. Actually. Who was the guy who played the Jerry
Lewis on? I walked the line. He was like, Louis Yeah. As a young
Jerry Lewis was I walked the line on Walk the Line. What was
the Johnny Cash be? cast his name. I
remember there being a Jerry Lewis in there. Oh, yeah.
No, he didn't know. Yeah. I think was Wally. They go Waylon
Payne. So he performed. It was good. It was very it was
interesting play Jerry Lewis. No, but his mom was. Ah, Sammy,
what's her name? Take the ribbon from my hair. Remember that
song? Just before my time me
Smith, Sammy Smith. Very, very. You know that song, don't you?
Now. Oh, please. Do not take the ribbon from my hair.
Not really, really? Wow. Okay, I've maybe heard it's
not before your time. Anyway, so that's her song he put he played
that song was nice. But then it's rained. It's Texas and
outdoor concert is not good. And everyone's like to him, You
curry.
So please, let's go easy on the rainstick because it is our
range that it works. I get tweets now. And people saying it
we people saying curry we get it. It works. Stop.
It's bad. It's superstition. Yeah.
So I thought maybe it'd be fun to show how a little script
works where people who are just checking into this program for
the first time. And you actually send out like a personal email
to everybody I saw yesterday, about this, about how we could
What exactly did you write it was, there was about said
that we need some way of defining the show because this
is not I considered like a post modern radio show. Yeah, but
nobody knows what that means. You say, Oh, it's postmodern
art, or it's postmodern comedy, or it's postmarked. But nobody
really, you know, you can look it up and read, I have a book
just discusses this concept. And it's like, oh, geez, I don't
know what it means that I know less after reading the book. But
it means it's kind of like new and have in a weird way. And so
but it's not a thing you can sell. Yes, it's a bit right.
Listen to the no agenda show.
It's postmodern,
modernist. mean anything, we need some way of saying, why
what's what's different about the show, because the show is
totally different than anything else out there. I mean, there's
nobody that does, but also,
with the explanation of what it is it has to enable people to
see that you might need to give it two or three goes before
you're really into it.
That's the problem I described. And we've known this for since
within a year when we first really got the show formula,
which was it takes people for one thing the beginning puts
people off because it's a mockery of of opening morning
zoo type snorting zoo type shows, and most of our noises
and all the rest is a mockery of the older way things were done,
which is again, which is a postmodern idea. And so we are a
meta show in some ways but the other on the other end of it we
do provide news analysis which is nothing new people have been
doing that forever, but they do it in but they're they
essentially encapsulated in different forms. I mean, if you
go back to the if stone newsletter or sell this the
famous
you when you say I have stone 99.99% of all citizens have no
idea what you're talking about. I
know but I'm only I say these names. I have stone Enceladus as
the other one SEL d s, in because in a new in this era,
people can be listening. And they can say, well, let me look
him up on Wikipedia. So
there's a couple of things. Now, traditionally, if you if someone
could say, well, you know, they won the Peabody Award. You know,
that's, that's one way to get people to listen, you know, if
there was some prestigious award, and I think you and I
pretty much realized that we're never going to win an award for
anything. We can't even get a podcast award. Word. So there's
very
light and we're working with the inventor or CO inventor or
whatever you want of podcasts. Yeah, no,
this is not this does not work for you. This is not good
enough. No, no, I have to. I don't know what then what's
worse is like, there's no I have this stigma clinging to me of
the MTV guy and makes it even worse.
Still the MTV Oh, yeah, no, that's the guy from MTV. Yeah.
People say that to me. Oh, yeah. I bring up the show. Yeah. Oh,
yeah. You should be listed. I always say Google no agenda,
which I think is one of the ways people can get least get a clue
that is not a two bit operation. Google no agenda. See what you
get. Were take over the whole thing for the first five, six
pages. And Is that still true? Yeah. Yeah. Just, there's an
interloper in there, but it's not worth discussing. Okay. And
I say, Yeah, I do the show with Adam curry. Adam curry the MTV
guy. How long this thing
lasts forever until I'm dead.
She knows it's never going to last when were you on MTV? Last?
What year?
1993? Oh, that's pretty recent. 20 years ago, that's not recent.
John. Reason. Mike. My kid was two when I quit. Come on. It's
not recent. There's no reason. So the other way, I think
there's another way and it's just to say, Yeah, but that's
not for you. I think it would the reverse psychology is the
onion. No, no, no, no, I you know, that's okay. I don't I
don't think the no agenda show is for you. It's, it's kind of
an exclusive club. You familiar with Mensa? Okay, that's not it.
You're not supposed to be in it. Trust me. This is not good for
you. Something like that, you know,
that technique has its followers. And I appreciate the
way it works. I personally, it's not my style. But I personally,
it's not my style, because I don't think I could actually
pull it off. Really as sales. Well, how
about this one then?
So no, I think that I think this was still valid in play. It's a
good idea. And it's partially it's
in play. So we can also say, you guys, did you see the matrix and
say red pill, blue pill? And then you say, Oh, so this is
like a red pill. So now it's like a kick in the groin. Just
something? Yeah. Just to like, get them off balance. Red Pill?
Is it a real red pill show or blue pill show? It's a kick in
your nuts is what it is? I don't know. It's there were a couple
of people at the party yesterday, I had, in fact, the
exact same amount of people who said, wow, so you worked with
Martha Quinn. I swear to God, I swear to God, I guess
I don't even know who Martha Quinn is.
And as people who say, Wow, I really appreciate what you guys
are doing this, you know, at least there's someone there
who's you know, trying to, you know, expose some truths and the
bullcrap. And, and the makeup, it's hard, you know. So the one
person was actually who said this? Do you work with Martha
Quinn, she comes from an intelligence family in DC. And
she's 48 I check these things. And the guy who said, I really
appreciate what you guys are doing. And you know how you're
deconstructing the media and no one is really doing anything
that unique was a 35 year old, gay garden designer. So you
know, it's like, you can't pin it on any type of person. Very
angry.
garden designer. Yes. Yeah.
What's the difference? Alright, so so I'd like to, for the
people who are now now you're sucked a night like, Okay, well,
what is it? You guys do? So on Thursday, we already kind of
showed no, it was actually started on Sunday. And then we
took it all the way to Thursday that the administration was
trying to play out a script with this airplane apocalypse. In
fact, we we named the last episode airplane apocalypse and
apparently they changed the name a little bit they shouldn't have
called the airplane apocalypse. It should have been airport
apocalypse. And then they went to Arab airport Armageddon, so
they didn't even have the name right. But the whole idea was to
say all the Ryan Seacrest stration has ruined air travel
which it didn't there were some delays because of weather. And I
took a trip and it was they chose wisely and you can go on
what's the what's the website? The website is hold on where's
my Ryan sequestration node here it is the website is wow it's
like air air stats.net or something crap I can't find
thought I thought it listed it. Anyway. So first of all, the
whole thing is kind of bogus because the FAA is the FAA is
funded by fees. Now this is this is very clear in In fact, I got
an email about it. Let me read this to you
Yeah, we brought this up. But with that when the lawyer came
in and talked about the fee based services that the
government provides, and how can they be cutting back when it
based on fees, and exactly TSA was one of them.
Yeah, so fuel based taxes and seat taxes, fully fund the FAA.
So it wasn't much of a big deal to, you know, to patch things
up, which by the way, it has not been signed into law. So nothing
has taken place. But all of a sudden, everything has been has
been saved. So but let me just take you through the messaging.
And it got lost because we had, you know, Boston and, you know,
it was last night, all kinds of bullcrap. So it didn't work. But
they did try it. And here is this is a what's his name?
Martin Bashir, I think is on MSNBC. Listen to how he was
yelling at. I don't know, if he was yelling at a representative
of
howling at a Republican, he was yelling at
someone. But what he said was quite bizarre.
Ma'am, it's hardly surprising that the American people would
rather contract gonorrhea or the Ebola virus rather than show any
respect for Congress, when it's perfectly obvious that members
will only take action when it affects them.
So the whole setup was and by the way, this just bizarre for
him to say that. So the whole setup was to have gonorrhea.
That's exactly right. That's right. I think we missed
something in the report before that. But the whole setup was
sequestration. Congress sucks. But oh, they're standing in line
now. It's affecting them. So then all of a sudden, they can
pass on and of course, as Republicans, then the
Republicans can pass something really quick. That is That was
the script. And, and of course, nothing happened. The ABC sent
who works for the White House, ABC sent guys out and they were
like, well, it wasn't all that bad, except for weather delays.
And you know, you can check yourself. There's just yeah,
there's sure there's delays in the New York metro area. It
happens from time to time but it's not like
always delay the New York metrics here. It's not horrible.
And and here's ABC touting the end of the Armageddon, even
though it never really took place that other
big story what could be the end of airport Armageddon,
so it remember it was airplane apocalypse, then it went to
airplane Armageddon, and now it's airport arm again, they got
everything wrong about this and all those delays. Now, I think
the script writer was too busy working on on the the
correspondents dinner jokes. Yeah. Let me finish this
happening on Capitol Hill to cut the furloughs of air traffic
controllers that have caused flight delays coast to coast.
Josh,
you know, we say Washington is dysfunctional, but when members
hear complaints, and it's going to affect them, it's amazing how
fast they can act.
Now, so of course, that's that's the mean. Okay, so that's
the mean. And now we've got to wind it up. And I look, because
this is a Senate Bill, s 853. And then a version of that
passed the House, which I have not seen, but s 853. It
literally it is called the Federal Aviation, I'm sorry, the
reducing flight delays act of 2013. And all it says is you can
take that money you have there and you can use it that's not
being used. That's your money anyway, and you can use it for
anything you want. I don't think that it was illegal for them to
do this anyway. But you know, but it made the President gave
him the ability to do this. Kyle, everybody.
Hi, everybody. Our top priority as a nation must be growing the
economy.
Okay, that's it's not he didn't say it's his top priority, so I
will not bust him off. But it's close,
creating good jobs and rebuilding opportunity for the
middle class.
Mac and cheese. But two
months ago, Congress allowed a series of automatic budget cuts
to fall across the federal government that would do the
opposite. In Washington speak, these cuts were called the
sequester. Oh, it was a bad idea then. And as the country saw
this week, it's a bad idea
now and I think the curry Devorah consulting group thinks
it was a bad name to start with. You never should have called it
sequestration because people can't even pronounce it. That's
why no one cares about his failed failed initiative.
Because of these reckless cuts their parents whose kids just
got kicked out of Headstart programs, who right now are
scrambling for a solution.
And by the way, this is this is really motive. You know, there's
like, oh, the kids are getting kicked out of Headstart programs
and everything's falling apart. I just I'm not seeing it.
They're seniors who depend on programs like Meals on Wheels
dependently, who are looking for help their military communities,
families that have obviously already sacrificed enough who
are coping under new strains all because of these cuts. This
week, the sequester travelers who are stuck for hours in
airports and on planes and are rightly frustrated by it.
I'm sorry, I just didn't see it. That's not true. There was an
ABC reporter who was caught for hours and hours and even
admitted that it was mainly weather delays. But this is not
true.
And maybe because they fly home each weekend, the members of
Congress who insisted on these cuts, we finally realized that
they actually apply to them to Republicans claim victory when
the sequester first took effect. And now they've decided, and
I'm a little tired of the Republican thing. It's okay. You
can ever claimed victory. No. And this bill, by the way,
claimed victory. This bill is a Republicans don't want the
military cut. This claiming victory. They want the military
guys, the Republicans don't want them all things they don't want.
This bill is a complete bipartisan bill. It is. Here,
Senate Commerce Committee Chairman John J. Rockefeller on
the fourth, who is a Democrat John Thune Republican Susan
Collins, Republican and Mark Udall Democrat. So it's
completely bipartisan that it was
a bad idea all along. Well, first, they should look at their
own budget. If the cuts they proposed were applied across the
board.
Okay, so now I would just want to shuttle forward because he
says something really funny. How are we doing John? How do you
think the economy's doing How's how's the how's the world doing
in general? Well, how's America has shadow stat, how's America
doing and you take a look, you look that up and up play this
piece causes
further damage. A couple of weeks ago, I put forward a
budget that replaces the next several years of these dumb cuts
with smarter cuts.
Like that
performs our tax code to close wasteful special if I missed it,
but that was funny to lunch was loopholes, and invest in things
like education, research and manufacturing that will create
new jobs right now. So I hope members of Congress will find
the same sense of urgency and bipartisan cooperation to help
the families still in the crosshairs of these cuts.
Members of Congress may not feel the pain felt by kids kicked off
a headstart for the 750,000, Americans projected to lose
their jobs because of these cuts, or the long term
unemployed, who will be further hurt by them. But that pain is
real. The American people worked too hard for too long rebuilding
from one economic crisis, just to see your elected officials
keep causing more. Our economy is growing. And our deficits are
shrinking. We're creating jobs on a consistent
basis. Okay. Can I just check that with you, John? Is our
economy growing?
No. Depends if you live in government stats, you might
think it's growing and the stock market's doing well, for various
reasons. But
is our economy growing? No. Okay, our deficit shrinking?
I don't have the deficit data. But it seems unlikely. Are we
creating jobs on a consistent basis? Well, here's the jobs
thing that's interesting has been interesting, ever since the
disparity took place, it looks like probably mid 2009. That's
when the government started rejiggering things. And that's
when shadow stats has an interesting phenomenon that I've
never seen before. And I followed the site for years. And
that is the end note, the U three, unemployment started to
drop in the second or third quarter and second quarter 2009.
It looks as and then you six which is another government
number has started to drop. And that's a kind of an old
calculation. And that was way up to about 17% unemployment, which
is a number they don't release anymore, but that's still
calculated. And it was in is closer to a true number 17%. And
shadow stats number which is created during the is the
original way of determining unemployment, which means if
you're gave up and you're about to shoot yourself, and you're a
bum on the street, you're unemployed. The government
numbers say if you're a bum and you can't get a job, and you're
gonna shoot yourself and you're out on the street, you're not
unemployed.
Let me ask you a question. Do we count as employed?
I have no idea.
I don't think we do if you're not if you're unemployed. If
you're not under payroll, aren't you just part of Ray masters? Do
you have other ways of getting independent contractors?
Whatever the case, the true number of unemployment, let's
say we'll take the US six, which is dropping below 15% down to
about, let's say 14% unemployment, the phony number
that the government releases which is seven, seven and a half
percent right is bogus. Nobody cares. The Shadow stats number
is going still going up and is approaching 25%. That's
yeah, that sounds more like it. It's what it feels like now.
Well, not here. Austin is not the same
as a jump in place because your governor
the moment that's right, that's where everyone laughs at him the
audios? MoPhO but I'll tell you people seem pretty happy here.
They have money to give away in the rain. In the rain, I tell
you.
So nobody wants to talk about any of this. They just want to
see Whether we're it's during employments going down, it's not
going down.
But anyway, that is how the script works. And it didn't
work. It didn't it didn't get any play, mainly because
everyone was way too busy getting their dress for the, for
the correspondents dinner. But also, I mean, everyone is still
on the street in Boston. If I look. Well, Fareed Zakaria is
back in the studio. And of course, who was on this morning
shirt off again shirt off while he was on the candy show. But
they got everyone's still on the streets in Boston that haven't
been back to the studio. This is like they're still trying to
milk this story for everything it's worth. Meanwhile, we've got
hundreds of people dying and collapsing buildings around the
world. We got drone strikes killing women and children. And
we've got earthquakes, you know, but that Oh, no, this is your
number one story and it's getting to the absurd. Although
look, Paul, luckily, yes, go ahead.
Let's but I do want to get get us back up to speed. I have one
of the latest rundowns because ABC who is the spokes hold for
the government. Yeah, they have their latest version. Oh, this
the thing that's interesting to me about this story is that, and
I think people should consider this. If you watch police shows,
or if you listen to police, or if you know police theory for
read, or if you're a criminologist, one of the things
I always try to do with criminals is to get separate
everybody, and then get them to tell the story. And then they
can determine whether the story is scripted, because they all
say the exact same thing, or they contradict each other. And
all these sorts of things. If we turn this idea around and look
at the police the same way. We see contradictions, we see
scripts, we see all of it all the indicators of criminal
activity. And here's so they keep changing the story. And
here's the latest from ABC.
Good morning, Robin. We're getting stunning new details
that just came in Tamar Lanzone house mother said he called her
during the firefight with police. He said quote, they've
started shooting at us. They're chasing us, Mama, I love you.
Then the phone went dead. And now you'll see in here how the
intense standoff unfolded with an explosive being detonated.
These are the dramatic moments heard on police scanners, when
Bordertown authorities had the deadly confrontation with the
most one admin in American sources.
Let me ask you a question. Why are they did he mean to hit the
bullhorn but he hit the radio instead?
No idea seriously. I
mean, he's, he's not just talking to command. He's yelling
at the guy like get down. But it's on the police scanner. This
is very strange behavior. Any sense.
The suspects battled police with at least five homemade bombs in
the firefight. Three exploded including the pressure cooker
bomb like the ones used in the assault on the Boston Marathon.
Wait a minute. So they're saying that the pressure cooker bomb
exploded during this firefight.
Here's the better part. The cop comes on. I think they have the
discusses he says he thinks it was a pressure cooker by women.
Let me get this straight. Thanks. They don't know how to
gather evidence. So huge explosion and that was the we
believe that was the pressure cooker
bomb that went off how
pleased this this video of this whole firefight there was no
huge explosion. And there were some flash bangs.
The Watertown police chief told ABC Martha Raddatz they brought
the fight to us. ABC News has learned the older brother
Tamela. Manzanita allegedly stood with the smoke swirling
around him refusing to retreat, firing away at police were being
killed in the State Street in custody.
And of course, the discrepancy here is that there's lots of
eyewitnesses who are saying that the police ran over him and then
shot him. And this huge discrepancies in the story.
Turns out that the Russian government was suspicious of
Tamela and back in 2011, though he had been living in the US for
years. After coming here from that country as a child with his
parents. Russian authorities feared tampilan was going to
travel from the US back to Russia to connect with Islamic
radicals. They had been fighting for years. They asked the FBI to
investigate the FBI interview tampilan who at that point
appear to be living the American dream of just getting by a
gifted boxer who wanted to fight for America in the Olympics. But
after looking into his phone records, websites he had visited
and associates the FBI found no ties to terrorists.
So what I'd like and I would just really appreciate some
translate arrogancy in this information could you please
just just show I mean, you're giving it to the press. Can you
please show us these
funnier stuff? Yeah. funnier stuff. But there's a little bit
that comes up right after where you cut it, which is perfect. He
stopped all right. I'll listen carefully to the next pile of
crap they deliver
and Associates, the FBI found no ties to terrorists. By law. FBI
officials said monitoring had to stop boring, new negative
information. The FBI was no longer watching. But after
tampilan returned from a six month trip to Russia, our dark
side began to emerge. He was charged in Cambridge with being
a former girlfriend started uploading violent videos urging
jihad to his YouTube channel. That's why they demonize as a
terrorist. Authorities never saw this coming. Some investigators
believe Tom Ilan was the leader and convinced his younger
brother to embrace jihad.
I will point out that in those YouTube videos where it's
claimed that it's him, he's wearing a Muslim Brotherhood t
shirt. I just want to point that out. No one is mentioning that
at all, that it's a Muslim Brotherhood t shirt he has on I
got something even nuttier that I picked up. So
I want to analyze this little piece about the FBI. They have
to stop. Yeah, they had to stop. Yeah. Well, they may have had to
stop a wiretap. But they monitor people for decades. Who are we
kidding?
Us? This is not true. Obviously. Whoever was not true. Whoever
handed this report to Martha Raddatz big star last night at
the event. Whoever handed that to her. It's just it's bullcrap.
It's made up here, CNN, this one slipped in. I'm not sure who
approved this going on the air.
All of that as we are learning more details about this
investigation. In a shocking revelation, sources now say Joe
heartstart. And I have had no weapon when he was hiding in a
boat and a police officer injured during the operation
appears an accidental victim of friendly fire. Who approved
that?
let that slip through? No, no. I think we call friendly fire on
Yes. The shooting.
So no, but he's like a week ago. Remember, he shot himself in the
throat and apparent suicide. But he did that without a gun. So
okay, so Okay, so obviously, there's tons of people, and tons
of, you know, all kinds of theories and things going on
about who what, why, how
it's made, by the way, maybe a test of really just throwing out
all kinds of weird crap menacing power comes back into the public
domain, based on all these all these want to be an analyst.
Well, one interesting thing that came back that I found
fascinating is this. You know, the uncle who came out to these
boys are losers, losers. So he was married to a high ranking
CIA officials daughter, Graham Fuller, he was married to
Samantha Fuller, up until I think 2000 or something. And,
you know, and it's undeniable that this fuller is, you know,
is was is linked to Chechnya, to operations there. And I think
it's pretty well known that the United States where there's CIA
or or just called the State Department, you know, we love
that whole region, we've got Georgia, the airport in Tbilisi
is called the George W. Bush airport, you know, or it's on
George W. Bush Boulevard. It's, it's obvious. You know, we
love photos.
We love this region, we own it. And that's for commerce. It's
for the pipelines coming over the caucuses. It's, you know,
it's surrounding Russia within a little bit there. You'll
remember when it was literally Georgia, our consultants, US
consultants who started the aggression against the Russians.
It's not in the history books that way, unless you really go
and read and there's admission that that's what happened,
right? We did this about three years ago. And then we went and
found the websites. Yeah. And the design of designers and the
where they're where they're hosted. And it was just bogus.
And if you if you if you take a look at the map, if you know if
you have take a little bit of a little bit of effort, and you
take a look at where Chechnya is and you look at where places
like Dagestan etcetera, you can see that this is a very
strategically important in these are important. The whole region
is very important for Russia. For Gazprom, for gas, which is
just geographical geopolitically speaking. It's very important to
own pieces of that. And so of course, for years we've been
stoking up Chechnya and rebels, to you know, cause havoc on the
Russians. I mean, this is just what we do. It's what we do. And
so this is for guy whose daughter was married to the
uncle. I mean, you can't just say, you can just overlook that.
Say, well, well, that's just a coincidence. You know that
hasn't that I mean, that's that has nothing to do with what's
going on here. We've got to look into this connection with
Chechnya. Yeah. Why don't you start with the uncle who was
married to a CIA high ranking officials daughter, and who I
think worked for us AI D, which is the State Department, which
is all it's all basically funding for to start bullcrap.
So there could be a larger thing growing on acres. Yeah, there
could be a larger thing going on with, with Russia, etc. I'm not
too sure about that. Because it still seems like there's just a
lot of a lot of mistakes and confusion and you get these
reports that are going out. And people are essentially lying. I
mean, we still have the governor of the state who has not seen
the video of these guys putting their backpacks down. This is
like the bin Laden photos. I mean, that God did it kid put in
the same draw. It's like yellow. Well, we can't show this to the
public, please. We've seen the video. This is how television
works. We've seen the video of these guys walking around, you
know, with a complete fool of you not looking shady or hiding
anything. And we're told that there's video of them, dropping
the backpacks and the explosion goes off and they're not worried
at all. They're just moseying around. But the governor has not
even seen this video. And I don't understand why we can't
just see it. Just show me the video. Show me that movie.
Why can't they? I mean, exactly. The reason we can't see is
because there is no video bull crap, but could only play a
couple of clips. Good. One is the this one here which is this
just a short clip which is just this this like, this is like I
guess some sort of proof that the one guy was was the bomber.
This is the saw his face clip. And just give this a little shot
Bowman
who was in the hospital with both of his legs blown off
scribed Hamlins face the only man who wasn't smiling
beforehand,
everyone was having a great time. And just that one guy, you
know, he didn't look like he was having a good
door. You better stay inside because if you're not looking
like you got a good time. If you got your jollies on, you're in
trouble.
It's just like I've been to many events where I'm not having a
good time. I mean, he's telling me that everybody's happy go
lucky at the Boston Marathon you're not even having a good
boosters who actually hope to win
the race. You're not even having a good time right now on this
very show.
She's I thought that was really weird. Now talking about
somebody not seeing videos. Here's your play this this is
the kid escaped the Mad killers clip and this is this reinvents
the story about how the kid got away didn't know he was Chinese
for one thing and how he escaped these crazy killers. But he's
not there to tell us the story. It's somebody else, the
carjacking
victim who helped to prevent more bloodshed.
Oh, yeah, this, isn't it. Thank you for reminding me of this.
These are the all these people who we heard about but had not
seen interviewed yet. It's very, very interesting.
Authorities say he might have prevented the alleged Boston
bombers from targeting New York Times Square next, a young man
from China just 26 years old, who asked to be called simply
Danny,
the older brother reaches into the window unlocks the door gets
in point two silver handgun at Danny.
He described the 90 Terrifying minutes to the Boston Globe. Did
Danny feel like he was going to die?
He he thought that he was going to die.
In that car. He listened as the two brothers talk to each other
about girls, their iPhones music, the whole time fearing he
would be next. Danny was trying to figure out how he could
escape the car they chose to carjack low on gas, they pull
into the gas station, the younger brother went into pay,
the older brother puts his gun down and begins working the GPS
in the car. And that was the moment I did it very fast. And
he said, using my left hand and right hand simultaneously to
open the door and fasten my seat belt jump out and go. The victim
said he ran at an angle. So when the brother grabbed his gun, it
would be harder to shoot him he hid in the closet and the gas
station across the street, and then called 911. Meantime,
tonight, another voice,
the guy with the hat in the glass aviators and the five
o'clock show. Hey, so
I'm looking at the Boston Globe who I will remind everybody at
one o'clock tweeted the police are going to have a controlled
detonation across from the library, which is exactly the
spot where the second bomb went off. And that's just been washed
away that whole you know, like whoa, that's interesting. They
said that two hours before it happened. But to the Boston
Globe in their Metro section. Here's a globe reporter Erik
Moskovitz describes his exclusive interview with Danny.
Now, the hill the man who survived an abduction by the
marathon bomb suspects let's See if we can play this. Oh, there's
a little Boston Globe jingle. Let's see what's going. Nobody
can ever imagine this happening to them. And I think by the way,
this guy
is 12. Eric moszkowicz is is he looks like Rand Paul, only 12
years old.
He's still probably someone who's been in the country as an
exchange student, gone back to China and then just come back
and start work just gotten this new car. I mean, it tells you a
lot about Danny that he had pulled over the side of the road
to respond to a text message. You know, he didn't do it while
he was driving and that's what precipitated this he was stopped
and then he ends up getting carjacked. And they take him and
the car and his money on this 90 minute you know, harrowing
ordeal.
This why don't we see this guy? Why can't we see Danny? Isn't
Danny a hero that he thwarted them from blowing up in Times
Square
Chinese spy? He doesn't want to be on the air. Yeah, this is
okay. This is dubious. dubious? Yes, at best. By the way,
according to the other report with the ABC, by the way, most
of my clips today are from ABC. He ran across to the Shell
station and hid in the closet. Oh, yeah. Is that what he did?
That's what he said. Do you tell me what you can go running into
a gas station? Chinese can't speak English. So I got to hit a
guy got to hide in closet. called the police on him? Well,
let's not get into logic here. What I would like to do is look
at the cause whatever effect this is interesting to me how
it's being used. Let's start off once again with our friend,
Representative Congress. Douche Peter King. And Peter King is on
two committees. I think he's on the Homeland Security Committee.
And is he on the Department of Defense Committee. I mean, he's
an important guy when it comes to money that is going to be
spent on putting weapons of war into the hands of our police
forces and Department of Homeland Security and creating
the police state. And it usually you have to listen to the guy
and it's just appalling.
Why intelligence so important to be aggressive to be out front.
Be aggressive with the slaves be up front? Yes. Show him who's
boss. Why it's
important if people if they see something, say something Oh,
yes. See Something, Say Something.
Should be buying our jingle chairman
of the House Committee on Homeland Security. There you go.
And which is the big one.
Okay, this is merchants selling any components what we use for
bomb everywhere from Wall bearings to beauty products.
That's right,
beauty products. If you are selling beauty products, and you
don't trust that person,
they can be used to make bombs, they should notify the police.
And that's right. Hey,
what are you doing buying that beauty product? I'm gonna report
you citizen,
to police as Krishna Kelly, those in New York are out in the
communities monitoring what's happening I know they've been
criticized for that's how you can head off this type of,
hopefully head off this type of attack. So I would say you
probably see a certain tightening of security. But the
main thing is to get more intelligence. And that's what
has to be done.
Are you satisfied so far with first response and with what the
federal government is doing? The FBI obviously as the lead
agency?
I certainly on the Boston Police Department has an outstanding
police department, FBI, Homeland Security, ATF they're all
working on this President is leading it now. This is this is
not a time for Democratic Republican politics. I think the
President is putting in place and putting in motion the
counterterrorism and anti terrorism units we have in our
country that have been developed over the last 11 and a half
years.
All right. What does that mean? What are what are the
President's putting what in place anti terrorism units
that's been in development? I'm not familiar with any of this. I
gotta do an outstanding job. I've no doubt of that
whatsoever. By terrorizing
citizens
and congressmen briefly, do you think that this will lead to
more cameras? I know that it's controversial. There
appears me one more camera I
see issues. Boston does have a lot of cameras, you're being
cities led by London have the most are Americans going to have
to get used to more surveillance on a daily basis?
I think we do. Because I think privacy involves being in a
private location being out in the street. There's not an
expectation of privacy. Anyone can look at, you can see you can
watch what you're doing. The camera just makes it more
sophisticated. But it's no different from your neighbor
looking out the window at your police officer looking at you
walking down the street. So I think we do need more cameras,
we have to stay ahead of the terrorists. And I do know in New
York, the the low Manhattan Security Initiative, which is
based on cameras, the outstanding work that results
from that. So yes, I do favor what cameras and it's a great
law and law enforcement method and device. And again, it keeps
us ahead of the terrorists who are constantly trying to kill
us.
Constantly trying to see though Hey, there's cameras all over
busic And then you see the guy placing the bomb in the gun. But
that's because was that early don't know, John, we don't have
enough. You know we why we don't have enough due because we
haven't met Charlie, everybody out there all you people, all
the businessmen out there thinking about doing an m&a Just
man, imagine having a camera on you when you leave the office,
get in the limo follow you all the way to some other company
that you're visiting for some unknown reason. So you can give
these congress people and the security people some heads up on
the m&a so they can invest wisely,
very wisely. So, no, this is leading to one thing and one
thing only. And this is why they had to bring it around to New
York City, which was mean, so you're telling me this kid who,
apparently but didn't really he shot himself with an imaginary
gun in the throat? He can't talk but he's writing down. Yeah. And
we were planning on going to blow everything up in Time
Square with our elbow pipe bombs, which we still had, oh,
wait a minute. And I don't know We blew some of those up with
the Mercedes that we a car jacket, even though my older
brother actually owned a Mercedes, but that doesn't
matter. Now. And we were but yeah, when we ran out of gas, so
we couldn't do it. Yeah, no, this is not true people. The
only reason we're bringing this to New York is Bloomberg is the
guy who only two months ago said he sees no difference between a
drone over New York AI in the sky. Versus cameras. That's why
it's been brought to Bloomberg Bloomberg is the guy who's going
to take it from the cameras hanging around the streets to
the drones. This is the go to guy this and this is the plan
for now. I'm not saying it was set up for this but that's
what's going on right now. It
wasn't that that's another indication of criminal activity
because the event was scripted one way goes another and then
they started an ad libbing all this stuff about them. Yes.
About the you know, they're trying to piece together a bit a
narrative that makes some sense and they can't do it. Well, so
there is no there was too many holes in the narrative. I mean,
you yourself talking about why are we hearing about the kids
running? Why don't we see the video we see videos of
everything else? Why? Why is there no videos with cameras all
over Boston. of them stuffing the bomb in the in the in the
garbage can exactly. There's just one there's just way too
much. There's too many loose ends is it's poorly scripted.
But we don't know anything about this. And it's just but it's
obvious that something's amiss. But
that doesn't mean we can have some more fun by playing some
clips from now, of course, we're in Boston, MIT's backyard. We've
got Sherry Turkle, who is I guess a professor of social
studies or something sociologist
is very famous. She's very famous. Yeah,
she's an idiot. Okay, that could be she's an add on to experts,
our two guests, CNN national security analyst Peter Bergen.
Also, I'm joined here in Boston, listen to
her mess up the script, the host is going to try and bring her
back to the script, she gives up and just gives up and goes to
the other guy
by MIT professor of social studies of science and
technology, Sherry Turkle. Thank you both for being here. Sherry,
let me begin with you. It is possible to be radicalized
online. We've seen it happen before. But we also know that it
is more rare than often when we see radicalization. If that is
the case among these two brothers, that it often requires
face to face contact. What is your assessment on on how
prevalent online solely online radicalization is?
No. Can we just stop here for a second? No, it's obvious that
the here's how the pre interview it is Terkel, a professor
Terkel. Yeah, we're going to tell you that people can be
radicalized just from the internet, and you're going to
agree with it. I mean, that's that's you just spend lavishly.
That's that'd be let's be a little more honest about how
this actually works. The way it works in because it's happened
to me just recently, as a matter of fact, they call you up for a
usually as before that it's not like at the show, because these
are usually remote. So they call you up at home or someplace and
they start they talk to you about what you can talk about.
And one of the things they'll do is they say, Well, we got a guy
who's gonna say this sucks. And we need somebody that's, that
says it's great. What do you think of it? They never really
tell you to say anything. But they tell you, they asked you in
advance. What do you think? And you say, I think it's great. And
they said, Okay, well, we'll have your book we'll be calling
you at 11 Or you say no, you know what, I think it's sucks to
Oh, okay. Oh, you know,
we might call you next time. Yeah.
And then they just don't call you and they didn't they go to
the next person to find somebody who's who's going to say it
based on what they talked to him about earlier. The producer
calls and you have this long conversation. And and then you
actually sometimes you end up writing the script. I've done
this a few times because I'm on one side that they really like
and so they say yeah, what else and then you tell him Bill kind
of stuff, then did they steal it? Usually the host steals the
material horse, of course. And then they asked you Do you agree
with this? Yeah, I agree with it because I wrote it. But you
don't say that, of course or you won't get rebooked. Now, so So
there's a couple of things here that are kind of interesting,
but play the rest of this clip.
Well, I actually I wanted to kind of interject in there. So
the last time I was ever asked to be on a mainstream television
appearance was 2009. And you know what that was, don't you,
John? Oh, this
is the Michael Jackson thing. Yes. So I was you're done.
You've been blackballed. Do you want it? Should we play that
clip just to play Adams clips?
Why do you think that's stupid? Or do I think it's great? Okay,
so, so I had the pre interview and the the whole thing and they
wanted to ask me about Michael Jackson. And then I threw
something in there. Just by the
way, let's do go back up a little more. This happened
before anybody suspected foul play?
Oh, yeah. No, this this was this was even before the funeral.
You're just supposed to go all the poor guy was great.
Oh, no, yeah, I worked with him. He was awesome. He really broke
through. You could hear that parts of the pre interview
coming through where, you know, he was the first black artist to
get real play on MTV. That was what this was supposed to be the
MTV guy talking about Michael Jackson, The Wizard of videos,
music videos, and the end the man who broke through the racist
policies of MTV. Okay, the crew, and exactly 12 seconds showed up
on air. And I said some really good stuff. So then MSNBC sends
me an email, Hey, you know, would you like to be on? It's
like, okay, I'll do your show. If you give me the, you know,
the title is Adam curry. You know, you can say x MTV VJ and
just put in there President mvno.com. And it was kind of
funny, because this was the day I guess that was Thursday, or
Friday, when they announced the big tribute at the Nokia theater
at the Staples arena, which they kept saying over and over and
over again, as if these guys you know, had benefited almost I
know that's the real name of the arena's. But Jesus just come
with comes across kind of eerie. And so they have a location
shoot there outside this press conference, which was a total
dud, by the way, you know, hey, here's the news. We're not going
to tell you anything about the concert, not know about the
tribute. But here's the mayor to tell you about how cool they are
at controlling the crowds. And and there's no more information,
enjoy your live shoot. So they're just trying to fill up
time because they got these, you know, they got all the reporters
out on the scene. And so I'm on for about five minutes. I'm
gonna play a little bit of the beginning. And then I'll play
you the real Zinger I got in there then able to see very
much. So this is this is she's talking to the Chris, from
MSNBC. He's talking to the council woman and acting mayor
of Los Angeles, a woman
and acting mayor Jan Perry. It's really nice to be to come over.
I know. It's been a busy number of days. Oh,
you're so cool. Thank you. It's so hard. It's so horrible. All
this work you're doing so thanks
so much. It helps to get the word out. Thanks so much. Thank
you very much.
And the word by the way is if you don't have one of the 17,000
tickets don't show up.
Michael Jackson and MTV could either have become an American
institution without the other. The 1980s witnessed the birth of
music, television and the transformation of Michael
Jackson from superstar to global sensation. Just two years after
MTBS launch, Jackson released the 14 Minute Thriller video and
the music changed the world forever. Forever.
Listen to how I come next. I'm prepared right I'm gonna I'm
gonna really get this is so meta, John. We're coming up.
I wish we just play the interview. Well, I
just grabbed the thing offline. I mean, it's coming now you're
coming into it and really roll
soundstage Jackson desegregated MTV, and ushered in the era of
elaborate and high tech music videos. Joining us now via Skype
is Adam curry former MTV DJ Adam is also president@nevio.com
cool is that I have to
tell you the things that strikes me is I've watched thriller over
the last
several days this is so funny because because I actually made
reference to what she's saying that I've watched through it No,
they don't play through it. Have you seen thriller in its
entirety anywhere in the past two weeks John anywhere Have you
seen the 14 minute video play?
Cuz you're gonna play the course tonight of course now.
You can't hear that music playing you can't have that
video playing without stopping what you're doing and watching
talk about the impact on police talk
about the impacts
your culture on that Thriller video and even earlier Michael
Jackson videos. Well, Chris, it
was really tremendous. And unfortunately, there's hardly a
channel that plays the video in its entirety anymore. It was
about 14 I was my little zing at MTV minutes long, which of
course was completely groundbreaking for the format of
music videos.
isn't what I say she talks about desegregation, but I just call
it at the time.
It did more it combined conceptual footage with dance
with performance. It also made directors important all of a
sudden John Landis, very famous film director directed the
Thriller video. I've been some price famous from many movies
with a voice was the heart of it. But Michael Jackson did much
more at the time, he really put black faces on MTV, this was
groundbreaking at the time in the in the mid 80s. MTV was kind
of
nice. So enough of that. Now listen to the end, where I sneak
in a little bit of no agenda to speak, which I was quite proud
of. Yes, absolutely. And she sets me up with a stupid
question, because he's fill in time this question.
And by the way, we want all our listeners should do this when
given the opportunity
to call in to MSNBC. No, not in that little no agenda speak. Oh,
yeah.
Wait, you can absolutely hear it comes. Right now. The coffee is
being delivered. Hold on, I'll sign for you. What's your name?
So
the short of what you're gonna say? Is that the she asked a
dumb question, because obviously, they're filling time,
which they do a lot of nm or actually all these new stations
would that talk the, you know, the news game, they they they
waiting for somebody to show up? Or they're, or they're trying to
wait for somebody to say something to the ear. And so one
of the things they're extremely adept at is what I'm doing now,
which is just Yes.
Thank you very much shatter. Here we go. Let's listen to her
stupid setup question. But
these rehearsals, it's about,
she's saying, Oh, well, you know, there's so many videos,
wait till it comes out on video. Yeah.
And can you imagine if they released some complete videos,
because we know that these rehearsals were done in high
def?
Well, there's a clue right there. By the way, the
rehearsals were done in high def. So of course, there'll be a
video you do
that would mean in terms of just viewership to places like MTV? I
mean, there seems to be an insatiable appetite for
Yes, absolutely. And I'm amazed, as you know, as you're showing
the footage, and everyone seems to be showing the footage of
these rehearsals just two days before. Here's a guy who clearly
was in great physical shape. He had 3040 concerts coming up in
the Oh, two Arena in London. That's a huge production, you
have to be preparing yourself a year in advance, at least
physically, you can't put on a show like that without an
enormous insurance coverage, which includes a tremendous
amount of physical testing. So I'm amazed at what happened that
I know that there's breaking news about some form of medical
medicinal drugs that were found in his home. I'm, quite frankly,
I'm amazed that no one is looking at a murder angle on
this. At this point, there's smoke coming out of her ear.
She's like,
and you can just hear the producer going?
In so they never called again. They hung up on me literally.
Yeah, well, they should have. And boy, you know, we were
interrupting clips too much. I agree
too much. Geez, that
took forever. Yeah.
Well, I was excited about that.
No, no, I remember the show we clip interruption was kind of a
high priority. We
i i apologize. I apologize. But the but the
apologize for what? For being on the show in 2009. Yeah,
I apologize for that. I apologize for having to drag you
through that again. Anyway, so we did all that to interrupt
this clip, and here is Miss Turkel, who you say is very
famous. And she's, she's going to read the script, I think it's
becoming more prevalent, because in this new age, the internet
serves as a community, people find their community and their
places of contact and comfort on the internet. And so I think
that you're going to be able to see, the internet is the place
where people do become radical. You
can see hours and hours and
hours and hours. That's where people go to find their home.
You know, this is what I found interesting. So she says, The
woman clearly Terkel gives a horrible response. She's like,
Yeah, well, I think that, you know, it's where people find
their comfort and their community and this is not what
they want to hear. Because the in the scripted said, There's
something like you're watching hours and hours of video, you're
getting indoctrinated. That's why the CNN host says hours and
hours and she says, Oh, yeah, hours and hours. They don't even
say hours and hours of what?
Well, there's another aspect of this. You have to consider how
wouldn't be full circle has been around forever? When have you
seen her before? Never. I've
never seen her before. Have you ever heard of her? No?
Well, now you know why.
And then she goes and this was this a short clip to her other
expert. This is the CNN I guess the terrorism expert, which I
think is another Brit and I'm sick and tired of the Brits all
over our news. It does not make me believe the news any more. Or
any less. But this seems to be I apparently, you know, it's like
if it's a Brit than the news is more serious sounding or
something. It's very strange. Whatever.
The thing that's gone in and out of vogue for years, okay, well,
it's
back again. And he's essentially admitting that inspire magazine
is a honeypot for the CIA.
You know, Peter, I want to talk to you about what what is on
this online magazine Inspire? And also, there's been questions
about how it's a widely circulated, not shut down, how
closely it's monitored by US authorities. What can you tell
us about that? What do we know about that?
Well, shutting these things down, is not particularly easy,
because you just shut it down.
You know what I love so much about this?
Guy's down left and right.
But also, it's not an online magazine, it's a PDF. It's just
a PDF that people you know, he's on the server, you can do it,
you can do a million things. But yeah, no, it's not. But but it's
not that we don't it's not, you know, it's hard to shut it down.
But we wouldn't want to you see
that it pops up somewhere else in some other jihadi forum. 80%
of the internet traffic in the world goes through the United
States.
Is that true?
Yeah, go through those, those four exchange point. Okay.
So technically, it would be possible to shut down a lot of
these sites. But there's, you know, for law enforcement,
there's also a value in having these sites up who's visiting
them. So there's been this kind of tension between information
gathering because you can monitor these jihadi forums. And
also, you know, the fact that they are clearly sometimes
inspiring people.
Oh, no, even uses the Inspire word, inspiring people. And then
my final one here is just Erin Burnett, who, who just wraps it
all up in a nice little bundle, because Twitter equals terror,
terrorists and Twitter. And we all know the online forum is a
place where you can follow the musings of anybody and 140
characters or less and there are some frankly, disgusting and
awful people on Twitter.
Yeah, that the
real Dvorak? There's all kinds of really disgusting people on
Twitter, disgusting, disgusting,
the terror groups are increasingly using it. And the
question now is whether Twitter is helping self radicalized
people like this, this
bombers self radicalizing thing is just killing me.
It's a crucial question. And Dan revers has an out front
investigation tonight.
Another Brit probably
away from the physical battlefield terrorists at
creating a virtual one on Twitter, I'm
done with this. This is too stupid. But you get the point.
It says it's self radicalization. You know, it can
be used at this point. But you know, the real money is going to
Homeland Security, putting weapons of war into the hands of
our police forces. You know, drones overhead flying with
Gorgon stare. So that can mean which is always outdated by now
Gorgon stare. But if you haven't seen it, we've been talking
about this for years. I mean, it's high, high, high resolution
stuff. You know, it's just like police state Skynet, whatever
you want to call it. It's all just fiction becomes reality.
It's happening. It's just get a grip get a hold is happening.
Good luck with that.
couple interesting stories kind of, again, yeah. Good luck with
all of it. Yeah, you know, I've decided that, you know,
different people kind of have versions of the script, or they
have their contacts or they don't know, they're being fed a
script, and they are. But I guess the New York Post is, is
the play this, this is the poor guy who is accused of being the
bad man. And it seems to me that then they there's a long story
about this guy, Molly pebble a little bit about it. But the big
question is never asked, which seems to me to be the question
that comes to mind.
They're gonna talk about who they're looking for. And, and
exactly,
you're closed off script. Yeah. Okay, play it.
Okay, I'll back it up. I had no idea what's wrong,
happens. They're going to talk about who they're looking for,
and and exactly where this investigation stands. And we're
gonna hold that and carry that news conference live so nobody
else can miss a single development. In this case, Janet
Napolitano was talking today about all the various mistakes
that have been made in reporting this story. Well, imagine being
a 17 year old high school student and seeing your picture
on the cover of The New York Post described as a bag man in
an article about the Marathon Bombing Salop maroon did. You
saw the picture circled in red, it was also all over social
media yesterday. But guess what? He didn't do it. Now. The police
have cleared his name, which by the way, didn't make his day any
easier.
Everywhere I go, just like, I just don't want to look at
people. Because when they look at me, they're gonna be like,
Oh, you just did this. How could you do that? Why would you even
do that?
Yeah, now, because the little that little clip at the end, by
the way is evergreen if you think about it, yeah. Oh, yeah.
All right. Nobody ever asked if he's gonna sue the paper. Oh no,
no, no
big time. No, this is America you can turn that around into a
reality show and you can Nice.
Now that's the advice is getting
the last clip I want to play which is the railroading clip is
I listened to this clip and one of the things that you know we
get I think we've done a better job of this over the years and
time as you start to you get the the bigger picture from the
clip. You first just say this clip is this is terrible what
they're doing to this woman, this is how they're they're,
they're taking the wife of Tamar lane, who's smokin hot, by the
way, she's very pretty. And they discuss what problems she might
have in a legal sense. And when I first heard the clip, I said
this is douchey. All we have is ABC this ABC again, a it which
makes more sense when you think about the interpretation of this
clip. ABC is going on what bad things can happen to her if she
doesn't play ball. And I realized that this is actually a
warning shot over the over the bow to the to this woman
specifically to to not only not play ball the way they're
talking about, but play ball the way the script says. If you
listen to this, this is the worst. This is the most
threatening, disgusting report I've heard on ABC for a long
time. They they run this woman as though she's a criminal and
listen to this. And think about how terrible it is that they're
doing this scene
while her lawyer told The Associated Press that she never
suspected anything. And that in fact, she learned that he was a
suspect by seeing it on TV, Robin.
All right to thank you. For more we're gonna bring back our GMA,
Legal Analyst Dan Abrams, what we know now about Katherine
Russell is that she is not in custody. So what does that tell
you how authorities view her
got nothing yet, because let's even assume for a moment, we
don't know this to be true. Let's assume for a moment that
the authorities are suspicious of her. They want to gather as
much information as they can first, if they take her into
custody, they then immediately have to read her Miranda rights,
she becomes an official suspect these kinds of rights kick in no
need to do that right now. They want to gather as much
information as they can, at this point before making a news and
there's been no
evidence that she knew anything about the bombings. If she did,
what the She fakes.
Look, knowledge alone, typically wouldn't be a serious crime. In
this case, the authorities would figure out a way, either an
accessory aiding and abetting, at the very least, it is still a
federal crime. If you know that a felony, it's a crime that is
almost never used. But they could charge her for actively
concealing the crime. If she knew about it had nothing to do
with it wasn't involved in it, but concealed it, they could
charge her with that crime only faces up to three years in
prison for something like that.
What about spousal privilege, even though her husband is dead,
she could still
say, I'm not going to disclose confidential conversations that
my husband and I had while he was alive. And she's allowed to
say that, and she's allowed to not testify about those. But I
can assure you that if she says, You know what, I'm going to
invoke spousal privilege here. The next thing the authorities
are gonna say is okay, no problem. Here are the list of
crimes that we're considering charging you with aiding and
abetting accessory, they will then add a long series of
crimes, which could be very, very serious, some of them as
serious as the crimes he's facing. I think that these
authorities are going to play a sort of no nonsense with her if
they get that kind of response. All right, Ken, thanks.
salutely Yeah, absolutely. That's great. Okay, guys, great
analysis is disgusting.
That was that that was one of the most disgusting things I've
heard on the media for probably the last two or three years and
and it was a threat. Yeah, it was it was onerous. It was it
was implied implied there an implications it was a disgusting
report ABC should be ashamed of themselves for even running
anything like them when you think about it. She's an idiot.
She's innocent until proven guilty. They just made her a
guilty person on the
show, but they could easily say and I would really appreciate it
if they did if they said you know, there's this podcast
called The no agenda show. And these guys they predicted that
something was going to happen. So they they could be
accomplices they could be know they had knowledge and they
they knew something Yes, a federal
federal crime. Yes, right.
They dare just just say that they're married if they dare try
pulling that stunt Oh, no married stunt. Oh, no. He's in
for big trouble. Anyway, that message to her is this I hear
they play this just it looks to everyone's in on this. You go,
you better go you do what we tell you had to do and we're in
everybody's happy. So whatever we get from her is going to be
meaningless. And they didn't use her Muslim name. Interestingly
enough, which she supposedly has now. What is your Muslim name I
have no Muslim
Let's lighten the mood here a little bit
Adams gonna read his email. Adams gonna read his email read
his email on the no agenda
we never got the name of the school from the bullying email.
Oh yeah, we did. We did. Okay, well you look that up and I'll
read the email actually have I print out okay, I shall read the
email. We're not not reading his name because he asked
specifically
we're not gonna we i did i He asked me if I was gonna say the
name as well I'm gonna look into this a little more before I just
discuss the scope. I do have the school's name and everything
okay, so I got most of that. Hello,
Adam and John. This was actually not just Adams email, Adam and
John Zina. I'm 16. And we had asked me to solicited this type
of communication, right, we'd like to have more by the way,
especially 16 year olds who listen to this program. This is
a very, very good trend. We have one Hello, Adam. This whole gap
we have like two year olds who love who love are see something
say something jingles and milk, dairy disturbing. And there's a
whole bunch of nothing. So 16 is kind of the sweet spot. Hello,
Adam and John. I'm 16. And at my school, we have a day of silence
for victims of bullying. We are asked to sign a contract to be
silent for a whole day. We also have random drug testing every
month. And up until the last up until last every three months
while class was going on. We would have an order over the
school intercom also known as the big void the giant voice
system training to take our bookbags and put them in front
of our lockers. When we arrive back at class we were told by
our principal over the intercom to go into a lockdown drill.
While we are hiding in the corner of our classrooms, our
bags are being searched and sniffed by drug dogs. This is
this is mind boggling to me that this is happening in America
this level of slave training is just beyond me.
Well, there's another I'm going to combine that you have any
more email you want to read. Yeah, I got a couple emails.
Okay, we'll finish that but I went well, actually, before he
did. Let me let me interrupt with and add a little to what
this guy said by playing this clip. Because then I have a
little bit of analysis after you've played the bullet proof
backpacks clip okie dokie.
Since the Sandy Hook tragedy keeping children safe from gun
violence is top of mind for many communities.
understandable but now there is a controversial new option for
parents to consider bulletproof backpacks for the kids.
Here's seven on your side's Michael Finney with more on this
is really happening.
Yeah, binders of pencils and rulers are on most factor school
shopping lists. Now some parents are adding bulletproof backpacks
but is pint size armour going to fall. This is an ordinary school
day for dimetric Boykin and his four year old daughter Giulia.
So this is super woman's Cape ordinary except for this brand
new backpack, which is what it looks despite the girly pink
fabric and pretty patterns Adorning it. This backpack
offers military grade protection against bullets. It costs about
$300 and is made in Colombia.
If they were to come in your classroom with any guns. You put
this on. And this would stop the bullets.
The Boykins live in Aurora, Colorado.
Oh, yeah,
I remember this a big thing when that also
so we got the kid with the lockdown drills and all the rest
of the 16 year old the high school and then we have the
terrorizing this little girl who's actually kind of blase
about it. This is very much to me, I think an extension. And I
think it's been going on in different forms. But they I
think they're revisiting the 50s, where they terrorize the
kids with duck and cover, duck and cover and a bomb air raids
and had the sirens going off. And sirens still goes off every
Friday in San Francisco, the air raid siren, giant voice system
that and the giant voice system. And all this is in the giant
voices. And I think it's part of the same argument that they're
putting the kids the students, especially into a state of
terror, yes, the same way they did to because it's a great
control mechanism. Although I think, you know, the results of
the 50s duck cover stuff turned out to be the 60s, which was the
you know, the protests and the anti war and all the rest. So
they may be, you know, they may be barking up the wrong tree
with this, this this technique? Well, I think at some point
people get, they see through it, but whatever the case is, this
is a disgusting trend. And this kid in his high school, the 16
or 16 year old contact, it's really Siculus and the fact that
this isn't being discussed more is beyond me.
Well, this brings me to a very, very nice segue upon you based
upon your recommendation. And you only have to say it to me
once I read Michael Crighton state of fear. And the e book of
state of fear, I purchased it on Kindle has three transcripts of
three of his speeches that he did at various universities. And
these are so good the speeches, and where he literally refers to
the duck and cover because he was a child of the duck and
cover era. Or so he states. He was Yeah. And so he and he talks
about the nuclear winter that was supposed to kill us and you
know, the fires. Remember the fires of, of Kuwait and Iraq in
the early 90s?
That was Carl Sagan or Carl Sagan,
the great scientist. Yes,
it's going to create a nuclear winter because the spelling and
I remember watching this on television, as Sagan went on
with this bullcrap. Yeah. The great Sagan. Yeah. And he's
supposedly a physicist, I guess, on top of his astronomy,
whatever the case was the Holy John, he's holy,
you cannot go Holy, holy, holy, you cannot go anywhere. Like you
cannot go on This Week in tech and say the guy was full of
crap. You can't get banned.
You get a bunch of flack. Yeah. Which is the way this works.
Yeah. And then then Creighton discusses this. So let me finish
this thing. So anyway, I watched this. And then they one of the
news outlets brought on some real physicists with a computer
model. And the guy comes on he says, this is total bull crap.
There's no way under any circumstances that that smoke
and get to this level. By anybody's calculations, he's
obviously he doesn't know what he's talking about. And
this guy gets scolded as as an idiot, a denier? A pseudo
scientist. Nope. Okay. So this book is so good. And it goes
right into, and I'm just going to spoil some of it for you
right away, just because it is you have when you don't have to
read the book. In fact, when we have our little to show
vacation, we're not actually going to go on vacation, we are
going to have some stuff for you. I'm going to do at least
one reading of one of these Michael Crighton speeches
because it is so powerful and so good. And you can Michael
Creighton was a he's a hero to many, many science, science
nerds, which of course, is why they hated him so much when he
came out with this book. And the book is great, because it has
all the statistics, and all of the graphs and all the charts
that he refers to in this fictional story, are the actual
charts and is the actual data he has footnotes to everything. You
know, so it really is the true facts of the global warming
slash climate change a hoax. Which is it? I mean, so this
whole story, even has these nut jobs, exploding pieces of
iceberg to get it to drop off at the moment of a an abrupt
climate change conference. I mean, it's so beautifully done.
No wonder they had to kill them in 2008. I mean, it's so
obvious. And they did. And this is so good. I ended that we said
we had and I need to talk to you about this after the show. We
have a dinner party here. So it's the brain scientist and his
lovely wife. And it's Laurie Frick, the transhumanist
transhumanist artist, and her husband Mark and then he's a
accountant, but he's like a cool accountant. Rock and roll
account. And I have to cook. So I'm gonna need some help with
with that because now I'm cooking for six people and I'm
very worried. So it's no big deal. But I'm thinking during
dinner, I'm going to do a reading from the book. Because
you know that these are all like Obama bots. This is perfect. I
just like to do a little reading from microcredit. You've heard
of microcredit? Did you enjoy Jurassic Park? Did you like
that? Yeah. was great.
Let me see arms folded. My prediction red book
will be folded.
mentioned this to miss Mickey. And she's like, No, please. No.
Don't do that. Because I like these. They're very kind. I like
him a lot. But it's just like I think smoke will come out of
their offices. Anyway, so yeah, you'll help me with the with a
cooking for six people because I'm so worried about this. I'm
very worried. All right, two more quick emails. Dear Adam, I
just finished listening to the last episode of no agenda. I
really liked your analysis overall, but I think you missed
the most important point on the forget your password initiative.
The reason why the government is pushing is they have all your
biometrical information of course, I think we know that.
When you get a new passport, for example. They say they have
biometrical picture in your fingerprints, at least here in
Germany. This is from John Jacob from one of our German
supporters but here's the part that I wanted to read. I came up
with a new way to save money to donate to no agenda. He says
that everybody can do it. There is no excuse. donate blood. Your
you can only do it every two months, but they give you 25
euros here in Germany. I know it's not much but hey, it's all
I can do. I think this is an outstanding idea.
Blood no agenda.
I think you should. You shouldn't be donating blood
and plasma.
I like that idea so much. And and then this is X impulse in
the chat room. He's very upset about the donation we keep
getting from Jeremy Fock. Remember Jeremy Falk that he's
the guy that was he I guess he works for Robert Gao. And that
he has the near the Hacienda there and like the
Oh, right, right, right. He's got the hacienda. He's got the
place we can go visit. Yeah. And
so the X impulse in the chat room was saying, dude, this guy
is 100% evil. He says you can't be accepting donation from him.
In fact, he says and this is why this is why I wanted to read
this. Sorry, Adam, but Gao, Robert Gao, Robert Gao used to
runs a Patta which was George W. Bush's fake oil company. So
that's how you know this somehow this you know, this Falk works
for him. And therefore his his money's no, good. He's so x
impulses. I know it's a donation. But would you accept
the donation from let's say, the Koch brothers or Michael Eisner
or David Petraeus? So let me answer that. Yes. Yeah. Are you
kidding me?
That's a go off and be your own idealist? I mean, yes, we're
listener supported if the Koch brothers want to give us money,
we'll take it to change our coverage. No, it's not going
to change our point of view or anything like that. This is
that's total. That's crazy
to us on the air longer. It's crazy. That Yeah, and
you know, and I'm like, I'm disappointed that the FOC Jeremy
Falk hasn't told us you know, hasn't, you know, sent me an
email said, Hey, here's, here's what's going on. Now. To me, we
have people in military in FBI, CIA, CDC, NSA, I mean, I have
here to, to challenge coins from the NSA 60th anniversary, John
mill. Now to from anonymous from Maryland. I have a couple of
cool, you know, and we have people working at the drone
program, we have people working everywhere, in, in, in horrible
places. And the reason why they donate is so that they can first
of all, fue I think I'm I'm just guessing, they feel better about
themselves knowing that there are people out there who
understand and and commiserate. And, and, and it feels good for
them to help to help us. Let people know what's really going
on.
And by the way, you're talking about the coins. I never
realized there's there's a verb in here on the coin. Yeah, let
me read you from an Air Force Reserve Command website. And
this was the topic I was thinking to try and bring in at
some point, which is the reserve bomber crew that participates in
the first nuclear exercise. You know about the 307 Bomb Wing?
Yeah, yeah, they're practicing some sort of exercise that drop
a nuke and this is the first time I guess nationally so like
it's a this group I guess the reservists the first 3343 Bomb
squadron participating in a new nuclear exercise after becoming
the first Air Force Reserve squadron to receive that
certification. Which tells you something something's up but
whatever the case is the pictures captioned Air Force
Colonel Jonathan Ellis 307 Bomber Wing Commander coins Oh
air crew prior to their leaving Arsdale Air Force Base. And I
believe that most people who read this would say what does
that mean coins?
Well, we know
apparently gave them all a coin commemorate this event.
I'm looking at these at these challenge coins. And there's
four diamonds in it.
Real diamonds that could die that real diamonds obviously be
diamonique their little stones Yeah.
If you Google NSA challenge coin you can i It's the 60 years of
excellence coin. You see it's also available on eBay. Yeah,
defending our nation is in between two little diamond geeks
and securing the future. It's very pretty.
And it's a commemorative coin eBay. Yeah, there it is. You see
it you see for 15 bucks there it is.
I'm gonna show my some old bye donating to no agenda. Imagine
all the people who could do with us.
Oh yeah, that'd be fun for
us some people to thank. Besides the NSA Steve bottoms in Reno,
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Just blatant advertisement for Taco Bell, where they
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And we've seen CNN doing stories.
Their new products are in cancer streaming. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh,
we love
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Center, with Brian Williams, rock centers, Brian Williams had
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you're kidding. Here it is.
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I'm out in the road promoting my new book, your only human
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I completely understand. Now Gekko. Do people
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people don't usually notice me on the street, because I'm only
6.9 inches tall. I spend most of my time just try not to get
stepped on. But I do get better tables at restaurants and I used
to. Is there a
downside to all this fame? Well, I
think the more famous you are, the more likely someone is to
dig up your old yearbook photos. And look what we dug up. Oh,
you're showing this on? Seriously kills you awful. We
were friends. Oh, no, I'm gonna remember this.
I just couldn't resist. Well, it's been great talking with
you. And I wish you the best of luck on your book tour.
Oh, thank you, Chelsea. No, it's been great chatting with you.
Cheers.
Is that disgusting or
what? All right, well, you have to assume that it was a paid
advertisement is your think, one minute paid advertisement, which
means Chelsea Clinton's already corrupt. But it wasn't presented
as such. It was presented as as, as you can't call the editorial
was presented as content. I think this is going to because
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DVR with the DVRs and the on demand and the Netflix and all
the rest. I think this is all we're going to see. I think
they're just experimenting right now. I think the taco bell thing
was the which was
eight minutes. It was the most disgusting we've ever seen.
That had to be paid for. Although I think it's this week.
Good. Yeah. But it's one it's an inch away from just being here's
his check, Dude, give us a piece. So all these places are
essentially corrupt already. And which we've been proven week
after week for I don't know years. But that's terrible. So
yeah, well, we could be doing that though. Did you? How
did Brian come out of that?
No, I don't have that. I think it went straight into
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to I want to say in the morning to yo him tear har because Miss
Mickey just sent me a text. You know he donated 50 to $50. So
he's, like family. Just wanted to say in the morning to him.
Your family isn't donating as it
they're donating their time and effort. and all of their love
donates quite a bit from the no agenda nation show.
Yeah, he does. He does a lot. How about those bags? We had
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The bags are gonna be approved once I get my hands on the bag
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and then it's gonna have some in the morning or some
one of these days I'm going to bundle all of the emails that
Eric Michelle sends to you and copies me on and publish them
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He is the Baron of the Marriott, the Marriott he's I think he
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he gets a lot of points maybe get some extra points.
Well remember when we were on the Hot Pockets tour? We he put
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Oh, yes, the points guy. There's a lot of people that just they
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they'll stay at one hotel chain, and then marry that's one of the
ones they stay at. Yeah, it must have a good program.
Yeah, they do. Worldwide. I'm sure it's pretty good. Let's see
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which is kind of like a middle in hotel chain, it seems to me
in the US is like top drawer in Asia. I mean, if you go to the
Marriott in Singapore, or the JW Marriott in Singapore, these
places that in Europe or in Asia, they're dynamite. They're
building a new one here in Austin, which is going to be
huge.
I mean, they have a huge one that horrible looking one, my
favorite one which is the I think it's still a Marriott
because you know, these things are like trading cards now. So
these hotel chains buy and sell them amongst themselves. I can
manage it better. Okay, here's manage it better. As that big
giant Marriott over in San Francisco that's got the funny
look in top looks like a giant jukebox. Yeah. I've told the
story before I'm gonna tell it again. When they were building
that thing. I was with me me walking down the street. That's
the sixth or whatever that street is, or fifth or fourth.
And there's a church there. And there is a the building was was
we're approaching the building and there was a broken sewer
pipe between the buildings next to the Oh, I remember this
story. Wow. It's an area in the Marriott. And we looked down in
this sewer pipe and there were rats. Hundreds of rats running
like crazy through the sewer pipe toward that that hotel. It
was pretty gruesome. I mean, right. I'm sure there's no rats
in the hotel, but just saying.
Yeah, the first time you told it four years ago was a little
better. I'm not quite sure what you
probably, you know, the stories that get watered down in time.
I, maybe my storytelling is lacking and lackluster.
So I want to talk about Syria for a moment. Because this will
come back onto the radar and I think it'll be this week and
it's been very interesting reading the official the
official word coming out of the White House, there was a there
there is a real official document. And it seems like the
the White House really wants to do a Libya move, they really
want to have the UN they want the no fly zone. And so it's
being pushed very, very hard by primarily, I think the
Washington Post and who was reporting on Israel. And so the
way this is breaking down, is Israel is saying that they have
proof that chemical weapons are being used. I have just a couple
clips just to accentuate this. And I have some thoughts on it
and some insight information on unreported information, I should
say on troop movements. David, what
evidence are the Israelis offering that the Syrians used
chemical weapons?
Marcus, they've been a little bit vague about what the nature
of their evidence is. Some of it is clearly photographic from
what we were told today. They and they say they saw people
frothing at the mouth and so forth, which can be a symptom of
using sarin gas, but it
maybe was just the bad oyster or something. It doesn't sound like
that's a really solid report also
be doctored up and it can be a symptom of other things. They
maintain that there was other evidence as well, what they call
direct evidence, but they wouldn't say whether or not that
meant that they had soil samples, or they weren't able to
do direct examination of some of the victims or this by the way
all bullcrap.
There's no, there's nothing to hear in this report. And
you know who this is. This is the New York Times, John, this
is on their website. This is the New York Times that gossip rag,
here's Dutch. Ruppersberger. What does he is he a member of
the House? I think so. We'll see what he has to say. Oh, this is
very funny, actually. So he comes out of His confidential
meeting, I guess he chairs the committee and Danna bash, who
Danna? Bash is,
like a really and woman. She's
like a really, really, really, really ugly Mollywood
you don't think Molly worry?
What are those now she's just a moron. And nobody has eyes that
big. She's like, she's like the reverse that Mollywood is cute
and sexy and smoking. And this is like Danna bash, like looked
at modeling said, I want to look like that and tried to do it,
but can't pull it off. Because she's just, I mean, really weird
looking very, very weird. And so she's like, CNN, CNN, and CNN.
And Rottenberg he immediately like CNN wears Fox are supposed
to do Fox. You know? These guys are such horrors.
Where's Fox? I was first going.
Where's Fox? It was supposed to be? Oh, well, oh, well, I have
to do see you guys got no ratings. But okay, how are you?
Hey,
question. Are you about chemical weapons?
What are you learning?
I think we first thing this was to bring all of our members
together to give them information in a classified
setting. We feel that there has been some chemical weapons that
have been used, but we're still investigating who who did it,
where it's coming from. And right now we're just an
evaluation stage. One of the most important issues is that we
do you bring together the other countries, we need to work as a
team, like we did in Libya, we brought the Arab League involved
in it was NATO. And it's the same situation here.
I would say, though, that you hear what he's saying. You hear
what he's saying. It's very
important for us to continue to talk to Russia, because I think
Russia could really
play that again. Oh, yeah. No, he says it right there. He says
it right there. And I can back that up with somebody.
Like we did Libya, and then we brought the Arab League involved
in NATO and Oh, Arab League. Okay. So it's the same situation
here. Okay. I would say, though, that I think it's very important
for us to continue to talk to Russia, because I think Russia
could really make a difference in helping to resolve this
serious, a terrible situation where people are being killed
every day.
Yeah. Okay. So a couple of things. First of all, I have on
high authority that all the Patriot missiles in the Gulf are
now being moved to Jordan Jordan, of course, you know,
we've been told 200, maybe 200. Dudes will send a couple of
troops out there. And that's 20,000. And the, the guy running
the show, and Jordan currently is us major jet retired US Major
General Gary Harrell. And he has been training the King Abdullah,
the second special operations for several years now, this is a
huge operation. It's like Blackwater. And so the attack is
going to come from Jordan. And there'll be some provocation,
but it's really our advisors or our consultants, because Russia
is never going to go along with this. Russia will not go along
with it. So there has to be some I'm kind of well we can call it
a false flag with a has to be some kind of provocation where
Jordan will have to attack Syria, but it's not really
Jordan. It's really the United States. Now, here's the problem
that I it's it doesn't work in my mind. And and you don't agree
with me on this, John, but I don't understand being a child
who grew up with the threat of the neutron bomb. Do you
remember the neutron bomb? Yeah, the neutron bomb. What was the
what was the thing of the neutron bomb Ella neutron bomb
is
essentially a fusion device that produces doesn't produce a
normal type of explosion it produced it releases mostly
neutrons instead of gamma radiation I think is the would
rather bomb well the way it kills everybody but it doesn't
destroy the building. Exactly.
Exactly. And it was seen as something very scary. But and it
was course everyone was gonna have one and remember there was
like whole thing stopped and we can't have neutron bombs. I
don't understand
those. By the way, remember that era it was a big stink made
about the neutron bomb mostly by the left saying that it was a
terrible idea because it would encourage people to drop the
bomb because it doesn't it's not destructive in the way it is
destructive word hits, but it's not district widely destructive.
This is what I don't understand. And I'm gonna say it again and
you're gonna go against it. And I don't understand why things
like the neutron bomb and chemical weapons are the red
line. So let's just presume that it's true because now the
numbers 80,000 That's what John McCain says that the Assad
regime has now killed eight slaughtered 80,000 People I
doubt it but look at the rumble you know I think it should be
the other way around. You know, it's like hey, you want to kill
your your own citizens with chemical weapons? Okay, you
know, but if you're gonna start ruining the place that's really
destructive you know killing people whether you kill them
with bombs that blow stuff up, or whether you kill them with
chemical weapons you're killing people. I don't understand why
chemical weapons all of a sudden is a red line is so horrible.
Can you explain to me why that is worse than blowing people's
houses up can you explain that to me?
Yeah because chemical Well there's a number of reasons you
don't want to use them because you can't control them very
easily. But if they're up there a horrific way to go we torture
them first and then kill them essentially is what chemical
weapons does well
what so having you being blown in half and dying
dodged a bullet you can take dividends these are not have you
seen this the so called YouTube videos from Syria? This isn't
like a car bombs everything people are blown to bits come
on.
If you're on bits at least you're not suffering.
No, of course you're suffering you don't die immediately like
you know like your everything's blown off and you're laying
around and you know, it's like the least now is like the whole
family will be gone together.
Very very kosher.
I'm sorry. I'm just if you're killing people anyway.
Well, that's the that would be the logic of a Hitler Okay,
they're gonna get killed anyway. So let's keep the property so
the values of the product so we don't lose our property values.
Yes.
This is what I don't understand is like why
it's a kind of classic capitalistic dilemma. Why is
that? Why is
it a red line? Why why is that the red line? Why
why that? Doesn't have to be it just is no but it is why are we
settled or blind draw a red line right Can I let allow this
even why do we settle for that as the red line isn't like
killing people in general a red line if we're going to be honest
about it?
Yeah, if you want to really be honest about that is absolutely
true. But it's not that but it's not it's the kill people but you
know,
but with Messier it's really efficient about
a gamma ray everybody struck down the street with his with
these devices and just whacked everyone is just down the
streets. You can do that.
This anyway, it just makes no sense to me. I'm all for
chemical weapons. I think if you're going to kill people,
kill them with chemical weapons. And to me it would be the
opposite way. I'm
all for chemical weapons quote Adam curry. Yes.
As your booster and the neutron bomb. And you know, if you're
going to kill people anyway, don't make a mess of it. Don't
make a mess of it.
You have to actually listen to that in in overall context and
realize that it's it sounds like the ravings of an insane maniac.
Well, okay, I'm just, I'm just calling it as it is. I mean, it
makes no sense to me that this rule this is, oh, chemical
weapons are always going to kill people. They're going to froth
at the mouth. Well, that's bad instead of blowing them too.
bits. This is the hypocrisy that I don't understand. Like, oh,
you know, we just keep on going like, oh, whatever it was at if
you believe that, oh 80,000 People are slaughtered. No one
gives a crap here like, whoa, but chemical weapons will know
this. Oh, that's a red line. This is this is a policy to me.
That's why I say it. And you're just as hypocritical as the
rest?
No, no, it's not hypocritical at all. You think non targeted,
generally speaking, if you're if you shoot somebody, you're
targeting them. So you're actually you know, there was a
bad guy, I'm gonna shoot him. Chemical Weapons just does it
doesn't pay attention to any of that. It just kills everybody.
And children, right? Yeah, yeah.
But and the bombs don't
know the bombs, or do you know they do but it's always at
RPGs. i
In the scheme of things, chemical weapons are worse than
bombs in terms of just killing, you know,
worse than worse than when this is my point
on targeted, it's just just killing people for the sake of
killing them.
Well, isn't that what we've been told for two years that Assad is
just killing people for the sake of killing them?
Yes. Which is why we expect him to use chemical weapons, at
least in the script. And I don't think he'll do it. I think it's,
I think it is bogus, I think it's going to be us
through the Jordanians.
Or maybe there'll be I don't know how they're gonna work the
Jordan thing out to make that one, I
think I think it's a red line for different guys.
I think it's in play. And I've been watching this. I've been
watching a lot of overseas news broadcasts from mostly
Australia. And which is really stupid. Your news if anybody has
it? And they actually I think they broke it because it was
like, last week, or even when we did the last show, or just
before there were no uses of chemical weapons in Syria. No,
no, no. Everyday intelligence guy said no, they're Syrian said
no. Then all of a sudden, I hear on the Australian news. Chemical
weapons have been confirmed. Yeah. And the script was
changed. And then I turn on RT, and then within a few hours, it
starts to show up here. Yeah. And I think why did they change
the script all of a sudden, to now chemical weapons have been
used, we think even though there's absolutely zero evidence
of it, so so so so I spoke I Hora fire. And so now it's like,
and now I hear this about Jordan, which doesn't surprise
me because there was no there was indications a week or two
ago about Jordan having a military buildup. So now I'm
thinking what this is going to be interesting. I can't I don't
see a script plot point going that way. But well, here's the
here's the logical thing about chemical weapons in this case,
we lose out there's no money to be made in chemical weapons. You
got to have the smaller stuff. It's a much bigger sale.
And it's also better if you blow up the buildings because you
have
contractors Thank you, the contractors and they gotta
rebuild.
Thank you. Now you've now I'll never
creates it. The other way the nukes no money,
there's no money. It creates
a stupid bunch of rotting flesh everywhere. Stinks.
Thank you. We figured it out. Now. I know now I know what's
going on. That makes total sense. We can have brechtl and
all these companies going in Bechtel, we can't have them.
Rachel. It sounds like a new hair salon company.
Now it's a it's a new play. Now, we can't have Halliburton
rebuilding everything. There's just not there's no rebuilding
to be done. So this now I understand why it's a red line.
It's like hey, you want to kill your people? Great. Oh, I'ma
blow him up so that we can come in and we can rebuild your
entire country the way we want it with our companies. And we'll
bring you that big check the way we did Kuwait but but don't just
like kill your people and just leave us like oh we do like one
bulldozer This is no good. We can't make any money that way.
Now I
understand things how's this gonna play out that Jordan is
gonna get some hot Okay, so all I
know is that I got the this information about retired
General Major General Gary Harrell and the Patriot missiles
being moved to Jordan. This is coming from one of one of our
military industrial complex contacts. And he's he's been
right on every every you know, I'm talking
I'm looking at the Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers
Europe. Do you see the guy on the Segway? No, I haven't seen
the Segway picture but I got a picture of the of this Allen
character. He just looks like an operator. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Well, he's
been training everyone here
he is. He's here he is hanging out with Jordanian Special
Operations Forces. entered director Brigadier General Shane
cat tonigh. In a presents the Supreme Allied Commander, Europe
Admiral James star var star vittatus with a plaque after
staff rytis Stavridis. Stafford. His first visited the center and
this is this has been going on since October 2010. Yes.
Jordanian connection in this guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And so
Jordan has
been this event well planned. Oh, yeah. Now this has been
going on.
I mean, this is a beauty. And it's
going to be it's going to be big, but it's going to it's
going to be totally it's going to be Arab League, you know, and
then I think what will happen is you'll have a strife you'll have
something go on between Jordan and Syria. And then that'll be a
reason for NATO to do the whole no fly zone and everything and
there's going to cut Russia out of the deal. Because it'll be
you know, true attacks and everything is is Jordan in the
United Nations, by the way. Sure. Yeah. Makes sense. Right?
Sure. Yeah, I don't know Look, I'm just asking
I mean, there's very few countries that aren't
right so that's all you need all you need. You don't even need a
Security Resolution then at that point because then you go
straight to Article Five and boom, you're good to go. I don't
think they need permission from from
almost Okay, as OTC which I would think be something to do
the over the counter market, King Abdullah Special Operations
Training Center facility that specializes in latest current
counterterrorism special ops and irregular irregular warfare
tactics.
That's like a that's like asymmetric. Well, regular AC MMA
or may not be asymmetric is this is an overall style. It's not a
tactic. But I guess it is a tactic. Totally who's located in
Amman, Georgia, or Georgia, Jordan HRM Candela, his vision
for making Jordan home to the international counterterrorism
training center of excellence became a reality. It opened his
doors in 2009, may 19, which is a date to remember. And okay,
now, this will be interesting, put
it in the book because in the book, it's in the book, the
chatter on my on my device has heated chatter. I've got
chatter, and it has heated up. By the way. 11.750, I think is
the frequency 11.750 mag Oh, 11.175 megahertz is where you
can hear like the Air Force and stuff. There's all kinds of cool
frequencies to listen to on USB. And you can hear them you know,
like positioning stuff in the Middle East. If the conditions
are right, it's pretty cool. That's not where I get the
information from. But yeah, I'm just I did get that frequency
from I'm just sitting in my shack pointing my antenna all
over the place.
Never stops so there's the information to be had. Nobody
uses encryption.
Well, you know, no one's talking about Jordan, but I so why don't
you just put it just spin? No, no, no, no one has said there
will be some kind of attack against Jordan or something. No
one is saying that. That's Ross. We are Yeah. I have two things
left. When I want to loot leave it open for you.
Let me do a segue here. I got a kick out of the story. I think
this is from the Midwest, maybe Montana.
I have the same story with the cheerleader hitless. Oh, no. No,
that one I don't have. Oh,
can I mind I play it. Yeah. The first thing that crossed my mind
was going and dragging the kids out
of school. It's a phone call. Jim Bishop wasn't expecting a
call
and you're saying you know, there's a hit list of the
school. That's pretty scary. For now.
County investigators tell us two students, an eighth grader here,
Walker Butte, and a 10th grader at Poston Butte high, both
cheerleaders created a hit list of students they didn't
like and I have three kids and both schools.
In total, nine students who attended walker or Poston plus a
teacher were named,
they had notified the parents of the kids on the hit list,
which definitely made Jim feel much better. Obviously, my kids
went to this school district was notified after parent found the
post on Instagram.
That's pretty serious, you know, when you're threatening other
kids,
but the girls told investigators they never intended to harm
anyone. They better take it seriously in Pinal. County and
Fergana. ABC 15 news. What is this? I mean,
give me a break. So what goes on in the Midwest? It's like these
girls coupled by the way that 16 year olds report about this high
school is showing you where this is all headed. This is becoming
a ridiculous situation in American schools. These girls
are like any other dipshit cheerleaders and there's plenty
of them out there. She's not probably among the elite, you
know, popular girls who made a list of the dorks they don't
like yeah, and they made a list and actually published it and
showed up On Instagram, yeah, we don't like these people. And it
probably says that you probably did say something like hit list
because you don't want to talk to them. Exactly. And they made
a stink out of it. It's just like kids, you know, these kids,
you know,
but this is not just the Midwest, this is now in the
Netherlands. Of course, everyone's all in jitters
because we have the big abdication celebration coming up
in two days on the 13th of April. And so now we have the
queen stepping down on Queen's Day, which is already crazy. And
then we have our new prince pills, our beer Prince stepping
in, there'll be drunk, no doubt, it'll be fun fun to watch. And
so everyone's all like rue. And on 4chan twice now, someone has
said, Oh, I'm gonna go shoot up the school and they've they're
now doing lock downs of Dutch schools. And and oh, yeah, we
don't have guns in Holland. By the way, then. I don't
understand why I was so afraid. Because you know, this is not
America, you have no one that didn't know like AR fifteens all
over the place. Or I'm sorry, no, they only have a machine
guns that the the criminals are shooting each other up with but
okay. But now instead of lone wolves, for the 30th of April,
now they're talking they have a term now in the Netherlands.
Gitmo nation lowlands called aim Zama fiqa, which translated
directly means lonely crazies. And that is their that is now
that is their version of the lone wolf and they are expelled.
They've talked to many people already.
Who then can be lonely.
Yes, long, lonely crazies. And they've got
to get a good a lot of old maids in this country. Yeah, go
on them but they've gone out and there is basically pre crime.
They're out there check in checking the lonely crazies. And
we've had discussions with several who we thought, you
know, are crazy enough that they could just go and do something
nuts, you know, so we may have to lock a few up if we are
suspicious of them.
This is very, very bad.
goes this is what's happening. Yeah. My favorite clip of the
week is the lesbians in middle school.
That's the one I had to. Yeah, let's play that
some red hook. New York middle school parents are outraged
after their daughters were forced to pretend to be lesbians
in front of the classmates. The Linden Avenue Middle School anti
bullying campaign focused on homosexuality and gender
identity. Parents say their daughters were embarrassed by
the role playing parent Mandy Kuhn told reporters quote, she
told me Mom, we all get teased and picked on enough now I'm
going to be called a lesbian, because I had to ask another
girl if I could kiss her. Kuhn says parents were given no
warning of the event and no choice to opt out. School
administrators defended the workshop and say they're
planning more. I want to opt out of the
lesbianism, please. So I looked into this a little bit.
Can I just play my clip? So it's a different report? Exactly.
Exact exact same words. Exact same words. Just stop it.
Some Red Hook New York middle school parents are outraged
after their daughters.
Do you hear that? It's the exact same words
just the exact same clip? No, it's not. Yeah, I don't think
so.
Yeah, it is no,
we're forced to pretend to be lesbians in front of really the
classmates, the Linden Avenue and middle school. Are you sure
it
is your clip is different than mine, in this regard, is for one
thing is equalized differently, but you have that same little
end of that guy you didn't clip it off. I have the same thing
that got the day before the camera guy.
You got to look guys cut all we have that exact same clip. It
sounded different. I'm sorry.
Yes, equalized. It does sound differently when you looked into
it. So I looked into a little bit and it's only a brouhaha be
between a bunch of Christian churches who got wind of this
and the gay community. Yeah. And so if you read the both sides of
it, apparently it was it was like an exercise where you're
supposed to ask somebody to kiss you but you don't have to but
you can if you want to. And I kept looking into this and the
gazing it's just showing that the Christians hate gays. Yeah.
And it went on and on with these two with his back but then I got
to do I found one deeper deconstruction or Archie now I
actually report a deeper reporting. It turns out that I
here's my analysis, it turns out that this was a health class
that was given as kind of a test of, of the high schoolers who
are going to go come down to the grade schoolers and teach them a
little bit about bullying and some other stuff. So it was high
school. It was high schoolers that were doing the class.
It was their idea. Yeah, no kidding.
Hey, man, I got a great idea for social studies.
All indications are as a couple of goofballs in high school says
I've got a great idea. Girls kiss and we'll watch Hey,
I just like the whole idea of a lesbian. Mommy, I want a lesbian
opt out. That's to get too good. Of course, this is exactly what,
John you and I could have made this one up ourselves. Like I
got a great idea for this class. We got a great history dude.
Yeah, so you let's, let's see, we got to do like roleplay I
don't think I could do with a straight face. So we could
either so we really want to do some roleplay for this
particular class. And in this case, we want to demonstrate how
horrible bullying is. Now if you too, yeah, you from the
cheerleaders. Yeah. If you could just if you could ask her if
she's kiss you like and then the new and I'll pretend I'm a
bully.
Hey, you hot lesbians?
It's funny. Now on the last show we did I we brought out a
Nightline clip showing you how to how ABC News in general is is
pokes holes for the government also deteriorating? I think it's
gotten a little worse than that touting that. This is another
Nightline story. In this case plugging a book, but I'm just to
have the intro of it and tell me you do think this is really
hitting the bottom of the barrel?
Which one is it leading?
Nightline worsens.
Oh, sorry. Here we go.
Is it otherworldly or a synapse in the brain trapped in a car or
caught up in a terror attack? It's those moments while
fighting for survival that some people report an overwhelming
sense of calm piercing through the panic. It's repeatedly
described as spiritual, even divine. Could it be the work of
guardian angels? ABCs J Schadler discovers some very surprising
answers.
This is News. This is Nightline. The big news show that you see
like Ted Koppel and yeah, those days are over. Yeah, that's
awesome. That is awesome. Wow. So I'm just trying to think how
we should leave because I think I can save most of this stuff
for Thursday. It'll keep Okay, are you doing twit today? Yeah,
I am. It's okay. Good, though, then I then I have to leave you
with a couple of thoughts. Oh, god. Yeah, of course. So write
this down. Okay, because this will be a topic on twit. And
you're going to say the following. Because I read your
column. I liked your column a lot about you saying that the
Google glasses I don't call it Google logic. Google Glasses is
what I call them. That it's a hoax. And and so this is going
to come up this con is going to come up but you need to use the
following term. Ready? Okay, glass holes.
Glass hole. Fill a slip that in? I think I can
slip it in. Last holes.
Yeah, no, I we're gonna talk about that for sure. Because I
told them I'm coming on to talk about it. Yeah. So let me do one
last thing.
What do I want to talk about? You don't want to talk about
this particular column? Because I think it was really good.
Yeah, okay. People should read it on PC Magazine Friday
edition. And it's a column that says I looking at the evidence
over time. And the fact this has taken forever and that there's
been a bunch of setups you should read the column because
got all the details. Yeah, I think Google Glasses is a hoax.
I really like that is a very that column was one of the
closest to no agenda deconstruction have ever seen.
And by the way, I retweeted it. People hate me. Because of
course, they think I'm endorsing it, which I do. But it's like,
Man, I got tons of retweets, and nobody complained about what
that's because as you said, I agree. This is obviously a hoax.
Oh, really,
I got a lot of men, this is the best thing to happen to
computing since the mouse.
And if people are following you,
I don't know. Glass holes,
glass hole.
I don't know if I made it up because I tried to get glass
holes.com. And it's taken. So there's no website, but I'm
like, Ah, that's a bummer. That was so
good. Before we leave. I do want to mention these FBI raids,
since we have a bunch of them in the show notes. Now. There's a
bunch of stuff going on. And I have a clip from the Oakland
event which nobody really knows what it's about, even though
it's apparently busing, some Mexican warlords or something in
Oakland. But there's been a bunch of this and JC buzzkill
Jr's mentioned that he actually has a friend who has disappeared
from one of the previous FBI raids and no one's seen or
heard. Or just disappearing. Multiple hear that? Yes. And
this is going on. This is all in advance of May Day apparently a
May Day and blackness group. Oh, wait, wait. No, that's may 5.
Sorry, at least. At least two houses in Olympia and two in
Seattle were visited this morning by the FBI looking for a
few different people. At least one of the people is being
sought because the FBI wants to interview them about Mayday
slash black block, block block. Black block is a group out of
Germany that came over here. And they were largely responsible
for most of the violence that's been taking place in a lot of
these events. And they're the ones who'd caused all the
trouble at the WTO protests in Seattle. We need to get on the
Bible one thing to see exactly who they are, right? God knows,
at this point, it's possibly an intelligence operation gone
amok, run amok? You know, at this point, it's unclear whether
there are subpoenas for either of the people the FBI is looking
for, or whether they're trying a more informal approach. And
apparently, there's a lot of people that if the FBI comes
you're not supposed to talk to him anyway, according to the guy
that we had the whistleblower if you remember that clip, this is
don't talk to the FBI. They're just not they're not
trustworthy, right? Was the apparently the what's going on a
sale. They've got the word out. If the FBI comes a knockin, you
tell him you don't want to talk to him and you close the door on
him. Yeah. And with the right kind of warrants kick in the
door. Yes. Apparently, what they've discovered is that
kicking in the door, if you're, if you're fed involves all kinds
of extra paperwork. How annoying. So they don't do it.
They don't think oh, why do you wait for me to come outside and
then they grab you or they do other thing? They put a hood
over your door? Yeah, you have a little better chance than the
local police. They don't care. They'll just kick in your door,
right? But there's no paperwork involved for them. And that's
apparently a big, big issue because I guess people bitched
and moaned about all these doors being kicked in. And this goes
way back, and I've tracked it back to 2010, with some some
reports about EFS when they were arresting 16 Anonymous hacking
suspects nationwide. But back in March the 2013. Nationwide, FBA
right raids on activists were going on in Minneapolis,
Chicago, Michigan and North Carolina. And again, it was
something that it's all a prelude to this Mayday thing,
which I don't know anything about. Very weird. So I don't
want to look into it. And what is the clip you've had here?
What is this clip is the crazy event that just took place?
Place in Oakland, I think it was last night.
And that breaking news. He's
in West Oakland tonight. Good evening. I'm Dan national. And
I'm Carolyn Johnson. The FBI and Oakland Police raided an
apartment building late tonight in your Seventh Street and
Linden, ABC SEVEN NEWS REPORTER Alan Wong is live at police
headquarters with the latest for asylum.
Carolyn flashbang grenades went off. Residents were forced from
their homes and we are still waiting for the Oakland Police
Department to tell us what is going on. Sounds
like a typical case of rescuing to me, John is not how the
police rescues people these days.
Here's what we saw several FBI agents in tactical gear with
fully automatic weapons outside of the city tower apartment
building at seventh and Linden, Oakland police officers in
uniform appeared to be assisting with traffic and the arrest of
one man at this location. Witnesses say they raided two
other apartment buildings in the city tower complex and evacuated
the residence. We saw them carry out one bag of evidence but so
far there's been no explanation and the residents are looking
for answers.
When I get to the lobby, it was so many polls in the lobby that
they put me up against the wall and as we didn't have any guns,
guns, they didn't actually have any guns. I said no, I'm just
looking for my kids. We don't know what's going on. They never
told us what was going on. I just got a standing out here.
I'm trying to get in the house with my kids. It's 10 o'clock.
We've been out here since seven o'clock.
You've been rescued. Now it's unusual to see local law
enforcement and the FBI working a combined and coordinated
operation like this one. They went in prepared for any type of
resistance, but it looks like it was an incident free night. This
was obviously a raid. But again, the law enforcement has not been
forthcoming in the details of this evening and we hope to
bring you more information in our morning newscast beginning
at 4:30am. Reporting live at the Oakland Police Headquarters. I'm
Alan Wong, ABC Seven News.
Now, the report was it was a drug bust of some sort, which
seems unlikely considering the montem arm arm. They had armored
trucks and I mean armored gear armored tanks, not tanks, but
these crazy looking things and weapons of war weapons of war on
the streets. But if that was the case, why wasn't it the DEA as
opposed to the FBI?
I don't know John, it doesn't matter. It's going to be our
turn eventually. You know let's hope we get to live a little bit
longer before we get disappointed I'm sorry, rescued,
rescued at the end of a gun I'm sorry, but buzzkill Junior's
friend.
Yeah, he's disappeared.
Is that his imaginary friend? No, no, he's real. Friends,
friends, that sucks.
Yeah, apparently it was just taken by the FBI when it just
disappeared. He hasn't been they know it can get a hold of him
knows where he is. Nobody knows nothing.
This this is not good. I
get mo Hey guy committed suicide and Gitmo. Oh crap, that's gonna
screw up our count. Let's bring another guy in and just put them
in here. 123 Yeah, they're all here. Yep. Wow.
Okay, so congratulations Italia with your newly appointed prime
minister, good work. Why do you even bother going to elections
at all this is going to appoint some guy. So good luck on that.
lowlands. Good luck with your lonely crazies on the 30th.
We'll be talking about that on Thursday, I'm sure. And perhaps
I can just play you out with the meme of the week, which will be
coming up this week. Um, depending on whatever terror we
have, you know, terror ink strikes, you never know what can
happen. But if we can just please get back to recruiting
women to vote for the Democratic Party and not for Republicans,
which of course is why we have this whole gun debate. Have the
mean and it comes up at the end of this 45 second report, you're
ready. It
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muskets is the meme of the week.
I've seen that I've heard that meme before yeah.
Oh yeah, it's coming. This when they wrote that they use muskets
they also had cannons in their backyard Yeah, exactly. The
ashes clay the brother of Henry Claire of nephew or
not Muhammad Ali. Yes.
Right who was visited actually Muhammad Ali in this in that era
had had to he because he was an abolitionist. He had to load his
cannon up with a bunch of broken glass and the rest of it and
shoot it at the sheriff and the police department that was
coming in to kick the crap out of him and kill him. And he used
the cannon to protect himself. Try doing that today. Anyway
Well, I'm a little lesbian story didn't pick me up John. I'm and
this is.
Well, I tell you why we knew that was a real shorty. It's a
classic. It's uplifting because you got an uplifting ending. It
is a little bit by Diane Sawyer. Sing a segment you really Oh,
good.
Is she drunk? Yeah, I
don't think so. Okay, all right. She's a little she may be on
Valley.
Oh, perfect. Well, in the morning, everybody in the
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