We're proud of being the bullies of the world. Okay, that's what
we do. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. Sunday, January 13 2013.
Time for your Gitmo nation media assassination episode 478.
This is no agenda,
double flag but still non tagged and back from living in exile
from the capital of the drone star Steve Austin teh house in
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
from Northern Silicon Valley where I can hear you now I'm
John C. Dvorak. Greg Levin Buzzkill.
I love watching the chat room everyone's like, just started
already. We know you just start just go you know, Hey, come on
people. It's
everybody in a hurry. I don't
know exactly. This is the best podcast in the universe. You
know, it's like it's
to be done. Right.
Thank you. It's a formula. And you have to you have to do it
right.
You have to do formula, right?
If the two are formula, right.
What's the point of a formula if you don't do it? So really ugly.
So
of course I'm back in the camp mofo and Austin Tay Haas. Okay,
here we go. Yay. And of course, everything is all filled with
dust and all sticky and nothing works right anymore. You know,
it's like, like someone like elves came in here.
Well, you leave something alone for a month and it just
everything starts to deteriorate. It is entropy.
You're lucky that the place hasn't dissolved.
The entire place just melted away.
Yeah. Or overgrown with weeds. Wow.
We're lucky to be here. I would say
okay, well, let's Let's start. Let's start at the beginning.
Okay. Let's start at a day of departure. How about that? Okay,
let's start. You're in the your little rental. No, no, no, no,
no. First
of all, before we left, we got a good little karma boost. As a
guest who showed up in Amsterdam, dressed to the nines,
I might add, almost looking like he had like a Zoot Suit on with
a hat and the tie the whole thing.
The mysterious surgir gene
exactly surging enough to live shows up in Amsterdam. And I'd
seen him previously in Austin and he looked like a biker. You
know, he had a do rag. He
dresses for the occasion.
I don't know if he's dressing for the occasion do for a
living. I
think he's a fixer.
Yes, correct. You are correct, sir. He's a fixer. That's
exactly what he is. He fixes stuff.
You know, he sent me a hoodie. Oh, an FBI.
Dallas. Yeah, yeah. He sent one for Mickey a pink one. And we
pleaded with him to send you a pink one as well. Oh,
thank you Jean for not sending me a pink one which would have
never been worn.
Well, have you seen the slogan on the on the emblem? What does
it say? It says something like FBI Dallas. We've got our eyes
on you.
Something like that?
Yeah, some creepy.
It's very creepy. Anyway, so then taxi Eric took us to the
airport. So that's where it all started. You know, the first
thing is, oh, you have four bags. And we had a we'd already
shipped stuff in boxes via postal. See, see mail?
Yeah, you'll get it in a couple of years. Yeah.
And, and they said, Well, you know, you have to pay for each
if you can only have one bag each and like, This is crazy. I
flew over Hold on a
second. Thank you. Wait, just stop. You're telling me that if
I'm flying overseas, yep. I'm flying overseas. I'm hauling my
butt across the ocean. And I'm probably gonna stay a while
because of that long because it's a long trip. I can only
bring one bag now on what carrier was that? Well, here's
this.
Here's what's interesting is because I you know, and I just
had regular economy, I think was economy comfort class. I'm not
quite sure what the comfort part is. And so you know, firstly,
it's KLM. And so delta is part of their, their network. And I
had two bags, checks to bags. And not not a problem. No one
young No one threw up and no one said anything. And Mickey by the
way, I checked who also flew over economy, when you know when
she left like, last year, she also had two bags and there was
no problem was like, Okay, two bags, check them through, and
through Delta, and then straight through to Amsterdam. And I had
the same now we show up at the airport with our same bags. It's
like, oh, no, I'm sorry, one bag only. Well, like what are you
talking about? And I'm like, Well, I don't know why you were
able to take it on the way over but we're looking at your
status. And we know we used to fly a lot and so we had like
Calum gold cards. Now you're just ivory. What? Your ivory
slay you don't care. out, so maybe it was because you were
gold. And now you're ivory. Okay. So we wound up that's 150
euros extra. What? Yes. 75 per bag.
So wait a minute. So you have Why don't you carry a bag on?
These are big bags. John, these are not not bags you can. This
is where the airlines are making the money though, you know, they
made in America alone, I think they made $3 billion in baggage
fees. This is this is how it's how it works. Anyway, so
regardless, we now this is the same thing that happened on the
way over the you know, they're flying these plastic planes
Airbus. And it's the I think it's the 340
and below four engines.
I don't recall, I think I just think it's the 340 Yes, it has
to be 340. And so what they've done in them is you have the
middle four seats. No matter what seat you have, you have a
metal box, right there kind of your leg either way, either
right leg or your left leg. It's the it's the stupidest
configuration ever. And what's worth that box is for the NCAA
entertainment which is crap anyway.
way there's a big giant metal box so you can't stick your feet
under the chair in front of you.
You can you can stick it under the seat in front of you, but
you have to route it around the box. So it's like imagine you
have the leg that's dumb. It is and I had a long discussion with
the senior Purser about this and he said yeah, this is pretty
dumb. We can't but this did yeah, this is how they
configured the aircraft the entire middle row of four seats
has this box and in fact no even has on the right hand side as
well. I didn't check left on the right hand side Where's two
seats? It doesn't matter. It's uncomfortable and it's it's
lame. It's a lame configuration. So we're off. Now we're tired
and this is a 430 afternoon flight and of course you have to
go to Atlanta and then from Atlanta we have to get Ms. Miki
better known as Mabel or sometimes mod or sometimes
Millicent or whatever crikey name you guys have come up with
her today. We got to get it through into the country and
then on to the flight from Atlanta to Austin. So now you
know this is a an eight and a half hour flight. So and now my
back is still completely messed up completely. And I have to
muscle spasms. Back went out.
Yeah. So So I pop a Viking in that's helping me out like yay.
Yeah, heck with a good time. Give me Give me a Bloody Mary.
All right. Bloody Mary, you know, then it's like, Okay,
after like three hours like getting rid of those tamasic Pam
pills, which is like, you know what to imagine Pam is don't
you? It's Yes, it's
a slim muscle relax.
No, that's a sleeping aid.
a sleeping pill. All right.
I'm out Mickey's out. So we're like, we're drooling for four
hours. We wake up an hour and a half before we land. Okay. And
then we land at Hartfield? Is it Hartsfield Jackson airport? I
think it is in Atlanta. Whatever it is it the biggest airport
Yeah, and so we land it to 815 our flight to Austin is at 10.
And there's 1000 People at customs I really in fact, here's
the crazy thing. They separate you between citizens and and
foreigners. The foreigner line was half the size of the Shizen
line. And you feel like such and of course this is all signs
everywhere join the Global Entry program, you won't have to join
the Global Entry Program. All we want is a retinal scan. I now
I'm not going to do that. So you know then so this is now and now
it's nine o'clock I'm still not at the front of the line and
then it's like nine o'clock everything stops because of
course the customs and border patrol the shift changes
oh yeah I was I've been there for one of these stops working
then
they get on the phone they put on their jacket and then the
other guys you know or or woman shows up and they wait and then
that person has to log in has to clean their stamp has to wipe
down has to wipe down the Yeah, I'm not kidding the cleaning
stamp that cleaning this stamp. You know they're wiping
everything down you're adjusting the monitor to the right hi you
know the chair and everything. And then the hand goes up and
like wave wave. Come on sleeveless your next so that you
know that takes 10 minutes and I'm just seeing the clock tick
away. I'm like ah, so finally I go through. And by the way the
guys kind of annoying. What food did you bring in? This is a new
trick they're doing what food did you bring in? Instead of Did
you bring any Food. And I didn't bring any food. There's notice
very subtle that they're doing. He should
have said, I didn't know I was supposed to bring in.
Do you want a sandwich? I might I might have some peanuts.
I didn't know when did this happen? I didn't know I supposed
to bring in food. I didn't bring it it would it bring in food
for?
That's very funny. That's a good idea. I'll remember to do that
next time.
Yeah. If there isn't.
Then it's like alcohol. Like now. And remember now, I've had
a sleeping pill I've
wasted Yeah, well, I'm awake.
And now, of course, it's It's now three in the morning body
clock time because we were way adjusted to get more nation,
Euro land. And there's like smoking. Why no man I gave up
four months ago. I don't even know why I'm giving him this
information.
Tony gave up four months ago. Smoking, taking these pills.
These are truth serum pills. Telling them all kinds of stuff.
Yeah. To serum. So I'm approved. Okay, this is good. Now, you
know, we know we'd also crossed off the family members traveling
with you because we don't want to confuse anybody. Yeah, about
any petition under a green card for spouse and all this stuff.
Just get in, just get in, right. And as I go, I see that Mickey
is still waiting for the changing of the guard over there
on the foreigner side. So I'm like, Okay, I go get the bags,
which I say we're lucky the bags are there. So I load up to
carts. And I can just see Mickey who has her hair up. And then
she's a she's a tall woman. And I just see this little little
like antenna of hair above above the booth where she's situated.
And I can see it bobbing around and bobbin and Bob and I'm like,
Oh, this is taking way too long. So girl. No guy.
A little guy. guy, guy. Yeah. Why do you think he's bobbing?
Hey, yeah.
And then all of a sudden, I see her and the guy with the
passport in the plastic baggie? walking towards me. Oh, no. And
I'm like, oh, and I'm like, Should I say something because
they're walking straight toward me. I didn't know that they have
to then turn it right to get into the little, you know, the
little enclosed slave quarters where they do a secondary on
you. And Mickey's looking straight at me kind of like with
that. Don't say anything. Good. don't acknowledge me. I'm like,
and I'm literally standing right there with two carts with four
huge bags. Now. It's like 925. And you know, and we still have
to somehow get our bags onto the I don't know how the airport
works. I gotta get it into the domestic. Forward, we gotta go
to the other gate, whatever. So then Mickey goes in, but she's
able to text me she says there's a second flag on me. Not sure
what it is. So she had a flag too tall. Who knows? Well, so
I'm standing there. I'm standing. You know, now people
are like, starting to question me. Why are you here?
Why are you here? Move it along. Yo photo.
Don't text the note. No cell phone usage here, sir. And I'm
like, I'm waiting on my partner. Now this is How about how about
that word? How my partner? Pitiful, I think was smart. Is
that him? No, no, no, is a tall blonde a woman. So Mickey comes
out 943. And she's actually she's smiling. She said there
was some secondary. But they were all really nice. They
recognize me. And it's hard not to remember this woman who was
in hysterics. Of course, the last time she went through. They
were all really, really nice. But there was a secondary flag
and said, I just wanted to get out. I didn't ask what it was.
Once I said I was good to go. Just I just booked out. So now
we're like, oh, what are we going to do? So we run through
the you know, then you have to get hand off your customs form.
And the guy goes, what food did you bring? Again, I missed a
great opportunity to say, Ah, I should have brought you a salad.
And he said he was nice. He saw that we were in a hurry. He said
nothing. He said Okay, go. And you know, he was just they were
actually I have to say, nice to let us through. But now it's
943. And the flight leaves at nine 956 is when it's scheduled
to leave. And then we round the corner. There's a guy there. He
says, Oh, don't worry. I'll take your bags. Oh, I'll get him
through the domestic. I'm like, well, we'll probably never see
those again. Anyway, it's gonna take days. And then we have to
run through security. Right? So we have to take everything off
shoes, you know, everything. And then Mickey bless her heart. She
She says opt out. I'm like, what? And they said, We don't
have a female assist. And now it's now we have nine minutes to
go. And we have to get on the frickin train in the Atlanta
terminal. You know how that works. We got this thing's
terrible. So I say, I say out loud, I sweat. Mickey, forget
it. Let's just go through the slave scanner. And all these
people, all these TSA agents looked at me like, What did you
say? I said, just go get him a slave scanner. So we go through
the scanner. And they literally, when I'm coming out the other
end, they said, That wasn't too bad was it?
Lined,
but they didn't check my ID, there's none of that. I don't
know if they don't have to or whatever, but there was no
checking. And then you know, we were at f we have to go to be
36. So we've got four train stops. And you're and this is
not the train where the doors close. Now, whether you're
you're in or not, now, this is one like, oh, there's somebody
over there at least 20 feet away. Let's keep the doors open.
And so we're at sea and people piling I'm like, ready to say,
I'm just ready to hit someone because now it's it's like 953.
And at this point, I'm like, this is not gonna happen. So
we're at B, we have to go up the escalator. Now, here's the
mistake I made. So I've got a big carry on, I've got Mickey's
camera bag, you've got laptop bags. I've had a Viking in have
had a sleeping pill have had bloody marys, I decide a good
idea is to run up the escalator. Let me tell you, this is not a
good idea. I get to the top of this escalator, I'm like, I
don't, I'm just gonna die. I can't do it anymore. And then B
36 is all the way at the end. I kid you not all the way at the
end. And then and then Mickey and Mickey is in the same
situation. And you know, and then her bag bears the snapper,
the strap of her bag breaks, you know the bags on the ground.
It's like it's like you can't even write this
stuff. Sounds like a comedy. But then
she sees that there's that there's still a gate agent at
30. I mean, I can't see this at this point. I'm so blind, but
she's got the distance vision. And then she starts she just
pours on the steam and she's like, Screw it. I'm gonna go
stop this plane. And I swear to God, she stopped the frickin
plane. She's there and she and this and the woman goes, Okay,
I'll let young and we get on coupe door closes. We're off now
and now we're literally like we can't talk our throats are all
swollen.
Why not? Can you give me some water?
Because of all the all the chemicals and every god knows
what's going on. And then so we basically we collapse for the
hour and a half flight. We get there. Lo and behold our bags
are first off the belt. This is great quarter, of course,
because they went they went last year. I mean,
who would have expected that? No, I would just write it on the
next plane. Yeah, I
didn't expect that for two days. Then we get in so we need a cab
because of course I didn't park the car at the airport, not
knowing how long it would take. And we get into a cab the guy is
from Ethiopia. His name is Hello. Do you ever call me
Hello? My name is Hulu Sal. And he's from Ethiopia. He barely
speaks English but the English he speaks is okay. And he's got
one of these vans. So like you know where you want to go and I
say my given the address of that Iowa what what? Can you damn GPS
I'll type it in. I type it in Oh, thank you. And we're driving
and then he's like Oh no. What? Oh, I can never get there I have
no gas no gas. Yeah. And I'm you know, this scam where like, You
got any cash for the gas, I was expecting that but he literally
had no gas is a cab driver. So we pull over and you know, and
then the the rear gate with the you know, there's lights
flashing that the the tailgate is about to open and our bags
are about to pop out. So I spend another 15 minutes with the guy
you know, doing this closing all up and then you know, we're like
35 minutes from the airport. We have a hill to get up you know,
before you get up here at Camp mofo and it's raining at this
point. And when and you know someone's raining, the roads
also get pretty slick. And so we've got all this gear in the
back we're in the back, he's in the front front wheel drive, we
go up the hill and we start sliding backwards in the dark on
on this hill, which you know essentially if you don't make
the curve around the hill, you're going into Lake Travis
and Mickey's freaking out and the tires are gone. And he's got
tires to this guy's
going to all this is not good. I said stop, stop, just stop. Just
put your foot on the brake. I have to get out I have to now
direct this guy on a hill in the dark off to the side. So we can
you know essentially shoot the approach from a different angle.
And then we finally finally get home Well now it's 1230. And
we're here. And, and, and and we're here.
Well, the moral to the story is a traveling wonderful.
Oh, man. And of course, there's just boxes of stuff here in the
mail. And, you know, God knows what mail Yeah, bills. And you
know, and also like a friendly reminder that we have to leave
the premises in a few weeks. So yesterday we spent time looking
at looking at other places, you know, the places to live. What
kind of friend are you actually when you can do it you made it
wasn't
what was really got a good story out of it.
What was really nice, though, is that when I when we landed in
Atlanta, I had at least 20 emails from producers saying,
I'm here in Atlanta, one phone call, I'll pick you up. We'll
take care of you literally, you know, like gypsy rings don't get
stuck there. Yeah, yeah. Mr. Oil was up all night tracking every
flight, call our movements. throughout every bit of the
process. He said that, by some strange coincidence, I guess.
The Delta flight from Atlanta to Austin had actually called in a
delayed departure, which is the only reason why we made it. And
I'm not sure why that happened. The flight was only half full.
So
they have delayed Well, it probably doesn't mean I don't
know. I mean, departure seems to be pretty routine nowadays,
especially from certain airports. You could also work
for example,
I'm thinking that one of our as possible are producing mines.
They supposed to do usually they hold up. I've been on flights
where they were they stopped they hold the flight up and say,
we got some international travelers that are delayed
connections, and we're gonna wait for them. So you know, it's
gonna take us another 15 minutes there for 15 minutes waiting for
these guys to get on. I got on a plane once where the door closed
right behind me. I always thought that was cool. Yeah.
Where's everybody glares? A hole we're waiting here for you.
Exactly.
Yeah. Now, but you know, luckily, I think it was nice as
that was Mickey said, You know her, even though there was a
secondary flag. We don't know what it is. They said, Have you
ever been arrested? That was like the questioning she got.
We're a little worried as to what that secondary flag is
exactly. But she did say that everyone was really, really
nice. And that they were all like, Hey, did you get your
visa? You got your old one. Okay, that's great. Yeah, we'll
try and hurry you through. They were really being nice. So I
have to
think it'd be nice to get that experience quite often. It's up
to New York.
Yeah, I just have to give props where props are due. Because we
know. I'm pretty
neat. Again, customs isn't you know, isn't the TSA people.
Yeah,
it's Homeland Security. Absolutely. Yeah, I
know they are. But they're not TSA division.
No, they're not TSA with a Homeland Security. And you just
look at that. So as
the Coast Guard I mean, well, exactly. Everything Homeland
Security is under the budget.
So you look at the dude running the show there and you know,
what's underneath is not going to be much better. That's it's
not obvious.
Well, I don't like it. I don't understand what the Coast Guard
is under the Department of Homeland Security should be a
military just makes no sense.
Anyway, the house was not robbed nick the rat. Very funny. No,
no, that was so everything else was and the neighbors is kind of
cute. You know, they'd put Christmas tree decorations in
the yard and they'd hung up a wreath on the house you know in
the futile hope that we would return for Christmas but you
know, so it's kind of cute that they did that and and they took
care of everything and now we can thank them by giving them
some Dutch chocolate and tell them that we're leaving
so I didn't bring any food
I didn't bring any food
Chai the way the key to success when you bring food in yeah is
never say it's a gift. Oh really? Yeah, it's for personal
use.
But you can't bring any food period I
mean it's you know yeah, you can bring food in but it has it can
never be for anything but personal use your you brought it
in to eat it. I mean, you can't bring in certain meats but I
look at the briefing from the border patrol or customs guys in
Port Angeles to Victoria Canada. And they said the trick is that
what happens if the bringing is a gift then that confiscated
right on the spot.
So here's what was really nice as I'm going through the through
the mail, which will take me a few more days because we got to
like get a new lease together first. I opened up one box and
it was the no agenda moonshine. Oh yeah, that stuff. Yeah. And
we had some last night we read the documentation. Yes, good.
Good going. It says please be careful with it. It will burn
your nose and throat but you can cut it with distilled water to
make a more vodka like spirit that will not catch fire and
comp that will not catch fire.
Oh yeah, this double burn like a champ
didn't react that didn't register yesterday when I was
drinking it. He said, because this was distilled from sugar
cane base rather than grain. There's no methanol produced by
the east as a result, there's no chance this spirit will make you
go blind. And this is right sir. Sir cogs. And it's a beautiful
bottle. He had his detail on. This is a product that I think
the Lego Yeah, it has legs. I think this can be sold. We
diluted it with water. And and Mickey actually, she was like,
oh my god, this is great. She didn't even finish it though. I
finished it. I was like, yeah, we'd had a little ice little
water just drank it that way.
Yeah, it's a vodka. It's essentially with the water in it
died. Man is essentially vodka, no matter I mean, you can call
whatever you want. Advertising.
It tasted like a really nice vodka when you when you diluted
a little bit with water. It tasted just like a really nice
vodka. And you could it makes it what it is. Yeah. But the bottle
is beautiful. The whole I presume you had the same bottle
on the same detail as I had. Yeah, that's a product. John.
That is a that is I think that's a 40 $49 bottle of juice right
there.
It's 180 Proof beauty. Yeah, I know it's a jam, we have to
figure out some way of putting that into play. I'm going
to take a picture of the actually maybe miss Mickey and
oh, she's listening. Maybe she can take a picture and tweet it
right now. So that people can see it. Like it's a beautiful,
beautiful. It just the whole product is great. I'm just like,
you know, lots is nice. And he was able to send it to me. So
can we just ship this stuff statewide? Or? Or when I wasn't
in the mason jar, which is kind of what I wanted? I think this
is better. Well, last year,
I know what you're saying. But that mason jars is just as
cliched.
No, it's just starting that people are doing the mason jars.
Mason jars in the 70s. Is this nothing new? Yeah, but the
people who
drink are new since that audience is starting to die off
the ones that saw that in the 70s.
Exactly. No one bites the dust. Hey,
speaking of dying, John. Good news
story out front breaking news. The Centers for Disease Control
have just told CNN that the flu is now at epidemic levels.
I'm glad I got back just in time just yeah,
just time to catch up.
Let's just have a listen to Erin Burnett here with a report in
the United
States right now widespread in 41 states. Hold that map up
there. So you can see it's the latest map we have from the CDC
and all the red is where there is high flu activity. Now I'm
going to flip it to look at the same time last year.
Fish gonna flip it Stanback she's flipping flipping the
cartoon drawing
green. Whoa,
minimal activity. I mean, a totally different picture this
year was proof right there season came sooner than
expected. And already obviously significantly worse.
How's this sooner than expected? We're in January because
she flipped it and it was green last year. So there's proof
now it's been green every year now. 1003 Hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey,
shut up already. Science.
So far. The CDC says there have been 2257 hospitalizations and
18 children have died. God there has been no nationwide tally yet
on adult deaths but Minnesota officials say there's 27 in
their state alone. 22 in South Carolina 13 In Indiana, seven in
Arkansas, six in Illinois. So
here's kind of the funny thing is that Texas is completely read
as in you know, like you were walk we're walking dead here
according to this CNN report. But California is completely
green yet. You know buzzkill Jr, sick? His girlfriend's sick.
You're drinking mushroom juice, so you don't get sick? What is
going on Tamiflu? Oh, really? Yeah. So but I liked the
mushroom juice, and I was at the market yesterday, but I couldn't
remember the damn mushroom I'm supposed to ask for Rishi. So
you take a reishi mushroom and then you just juice it. Well
look at Googly Googly II it
How come you don't I mean don't why don't we have a John C.
Dvorak? No agenda swine flu recipe I don't understand. Why
are you sending me to the Google's
Jaycees thing? I mean, he's the one who knows all about how to
make. The guy's gonna boil it.
The guy who was drinking GAC Shushi did to help
me I didn't. I saw what happened to his girlfriend. She's still
like Vic, she can barely walk really? Is it that that went
after a joint and so she's like, she looks like an old
grandmother wandering around. And so JC got it. Oh, he started
he wouldn't take my advice and take some time with us. Well,
actually, we're here we haven't Relenza to write but I got a
couple of days of harassment. You know, is this the puking
thing? I was going to take a prophylactic round of Tamiflu.
Is this Is it the puking pooping flu or is this the one no
everything?
Oh really looking bad gastroenteritis? No joint, no
high fever. It's a mess. Oh, Jase. It's not one you want to
get. So I just loaded up on all these DS preventatives, and my
everyone's sick by me.
So I want you to listen to the rest. And so this was like a 15
minute report and I pulled another two minutes she has this
doctor on and you'll recognize where this doctors worker will
actually tell you where he worked before. But they're
really loading it on this year. I mean, now it's, you know,
because you know, of course, what this is all about, you
know, we've got to shoot the slaves up with some vaccines.
But let's, let's spark a little bit of panic here as well.
Well, intense. It's something you expect in other parts of the
world. How does this happen?
It is frightening. The worst flu season we've had in 10 years
now, the
worst in 10 years, John 10 years, this supersedes
supersedes the swine flu worst in 10 years.
I think it is the worst in 10 years, I'm in total agreement
with this.
And we don't really know how bad it's going to be. In New York
alone. For example, we are already well ahead of where we
were last year,
you know, I would disguise die. I know what the problem is, by
the way, don't want to even discuss this. Okay. So Jessie
who caught the flu because she works in a in the, at the Ferry
Building. And in a one of those small, you know, boutique stores
for all the rich jerk offs from Nob Hill, right? Pacific
Heights, all these companies, all the all the noodle kids and
all these guys out there, in fact, it's kind of stunning when
I discussed this with them. None of them none of these, none of
the people in their 20s that are working for a living, have sick
leave, they don't give it to him. The Union thing there's no
sick leave anymore. So they said you got to come to work, you
gotta kinda work. So she's actually has, essentially all
these people, all of them, they all have the flu, and they're
all forced to go work in a public place with the public.
And it's just passing this around like crazy because
there's no sick leave. There has to be legislative sick leave
mandated by the government because there's nobody's gonna
give it to anybody. You got to come to work, really make all
these people who are sick as dogs go to work and contaminate
the public and and so this thing spreads like crazy. And that's
the public health problem. And no, buddy, and all these
reports, you won't have to anybody mentioning anything
about this?
Well, that doesn't matter. Because if we just give them a
shot, then they can go wrong, they can go right back to work.
Well, the
problem is they finally got they're being honest about the
shot. All the news reports, especially in the last week, say
the shot even though we had some reports saying it was supposed
to work pretty well. They say it's 57% effective. Oh, well, so
it doesn't work? Not at
all. No, no, no, no, that no, CNN is on a different track with
that here, check it out.
We're protracted probably the just the sell of shots. But
well, listen projection go much higher as you say the flu season
started earlier. And a may run longer. Now we are ill prepared
for this. We don't have the negative pressure rooms which
are required isolate people
negative pressure rooms. Now they are used to getting the
feeling already where this guy is from Do you Do you remember
who this guy is? If you don't, we're going to tell you.
We frankly don't have enough vaccine? Ooh, we have 135
million doses of vaccine and we have almost twice as many people
in the United States choose your favorite child. So but the but
the short answer is we really don't know what's different this
year, why we have more flu.
And that's what the sort of frightening you service advisor
on the film contagion is I just thought,
oh, he was an advisor on the film contagion. Yes, that's
where we know him from
in that scenario. And outbreak quickly spreads around the
world. And it's frightening and you know, millions of people can
die.
In America, millions of people can die. I'd heard it
to deal with a real pandemic, because obviously looking at
what we just saw on that piece and what we're seeing now. I
mean, especially given all the threats from terror that this
country has faced, shocking, it doesn't seem like we're ready.
Well, the good news is that we have newer faster better ways of
making vaccines now okay, then we had a few years ago so we can
produce vaccines and we can get them out where they can actually
protect people. We also have no evidence that these flu strains
that are circulating this year are gonna be resistant to the
drugs that we have. She says
no evidence John, he's this is he was advisor on contagion
crap.
He's everybody's been talking about he's,
he's an advisor on contagion. I don't think you know what you're
talking about.
In fact, if we can get to people, you know, within
appropriate period of time, we can actually have an impact.
Alright, there's a couple of positive things but Colonel
Larson, you worked with former Senators Bob Graham and Jim
talent at the bipartisan WMD Research Center and you
WMDs now we're now we're already over two weapons of mass
destruction
flew to WMDs
Wow, big cuz there's something brewing brother,
oh, terrorism report cards is where the United States is, are
we ready? And after 911 It was a big priority for this country to
be ready. And here's what it looked like. There were no A's
and there were a lot of DS and a lot of apps and
so basically what she did is this, there. This of course, is
gonna be a money grab somewhere. The whole idea is, well, we
weren't ready for this flu, but it's just the flu people and we
don't have enough vaccines. And look if this were an anthrax
attack. That's where she takes this I don't have to play the
rest of the clip because that's exactly what she says.
Boo. What G stinks?
Yes, why don't Oh, she actually stinks she probably smells quite
nice. No, that could be I have a feeling that Aaron smells kind
of like you know like when you when you smell a newborn baby.
But she has some appeal
in the morning to you there John. See
you Adam curry Welcome back to the US have a good morning to
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And while we're on the list I have here from Christie
Harriman. It'll be a little tough to hear it's a YouTube
video from one of their friends at the general intership
intercessions. at their wedding, which I've never heard of this,
but I guess this the general interest? Is that kind of like
the general prayer that you do to Edison, any kind of ceremony?
I don't know. I don't know what you're talking about.
intercessions. I looked it up on the in the book of knowledge. I
don't know. I have no idea. I'd have to look it up myself.
Here. I've looked it up.
Somebody got married. And so they had an intersession that is
now where they bring him I say no, no, don't get married, slap
him around, I don't think was an intervention.
Now so that one of their friends does a prayer. And I tweeted
this a lot of people knew exactly. I don't know. I don't
go to church. So I don't know what this is. But he's up there
in like the pulpit area. And listen to what he says.
Could you hear it?
Sounds like he's given code to some alien landing.
He said, boots on the ground. Subs under the water. Ships at
sea, eaten the air and he's looking. He's looking around.
What's noticing that is hilarious.
It's a little hard to hear but you see it here with a video.
It's a little better. It's like boots on the ground. Subs under
the water ships and seats and feet in the air. Very good.
Very, very good. We like that a lot. That was good.
Oh, and well, I do have another PR thing. Captain Fred, who's in
Austin here. Do curious, not a captain Fred. He does. He does a
couple of podcasts. And he went to the New Media Expo where they
had the Podcast Awards. Yes. And he and he confronted Mr. Podcast
award himself Todd Cochran. He confronted him about about our
little show here.
This is Fred Castillo struggling entrepreneur. We're here at New
Media Expo, which happens to be the conference for podcasters
and I'm here with Todd Cochran from raw voice and also a
blueberry man. He's also the chairman of the Podcast Awards
People's Choice. And so I have one question for you Todd. And
that is if you if you had a category for the best podcast in
the universe, which one would it be?
No agenda no agenda.com John C Dvorak.
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love you there just go out there harass Pete was like hey man,
you like these podcasts or words or bigoted man?
was they did some of them I'm sure are I mean, they had the My
favorite is the there was some category and the guy who one was
audacity to podcast. And it's a podcast about making podcasts
using Audacity. And it's just I mean, it's I don't it should be
fuddled by this winning, there's some actually some pretty good
on pretty good names nominated, but I was okay, whatever.
That doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. It
matters all Bogut. If it's bots and Leo didn't even get
nominated and he kind of grossed about it. For twit for the best
tech podcast.
Well, I guess he's just no longer the best pa tech podcast.
They
have him. Here's the joke of it. They have him key keynote and
give the awards out. And then they snub him this was hilarious
but this num him for it couldn't even give him a gratuitous
nomination.
This is why I don't do any of these things I you know, they
always ask me I'm like, where's my award? Well, like not do
exactly what you should do. Unless I know unless I've
received an award at one point. And yeah, like the very first
podcast award the very very very first I got best produced or
something like whatever, you know that that's if it doesn't
sound right know
that these awards and we'll I could talk about this again
about how the top 10 lists and magazines
these aren't these the these are voted on by the
public but you could put a bot out there and just vote the crap
out of yourself.
Really? Is that possible? Yeah, and
I think we should do it next allow Well,
we all we tried that. Remember last year right? We tried last
year to get get the bots going? No. And everyone's like gift,
man. We got to put bots on. Pay him we got other things to do.
And you know what? I don't think it really I don't think you
achieve anything. I don't think I don't think you get anything
for it.
You get a last award.
Do we have anyone to thank for supporting the show?
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Because it was always overpriced. People seem to like
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Our formula is this. We go out we hit people in the mouth
so I'm, I'm a little disappointed. John. In you what
can you specifically? Okay. We had a show on Thursday. And, you
know, I don't understand why you didn't alert me to the fact that
the Miss USA contest was going to be on Saturday because you
and I would have obviously called New York as the winner
because of Sir Superstorm Sandy. And this wasn't a shoo in for
us. Well, it
could have been New Jersey. No. Well, we would have hedged.
Well, it actually would have been I know what would have
happened would have been an argument between the two of us
one pick, pick Just in New York knowing that one of the two
would win,
and you would have won because I would have chosen for Jersey, of
course. But now, but now even worse, so. So that's on last
night and I say to to Millicent, I say, I don't need to watch
John will have clips. And then I'm looking at your clip list.
And did you even watch the show? No, I
didn't know it was on Oh my god.
Oh my god. Oh my god, this is? Are you okay? You must have the
flu.
No, there was a San Francisco Green Bay game on. I mean, I had
no choice but to watch that
you. But you always watch the
big beauty pageant nut. Oh, this is really disappointing. Well,
maybe I've taken the Tamiflu and makes you hallucinate.
You should try mixing with some of that. No agenda moonshine. I
was try that that might be a great combo.
I got better clips when I was I was getting some great clips
about there was a big con fab. And I think it was the Brookings
Institute had on legalizing marijuana. And so I ended up
getting a bunch of clips, I think I could have even over
clipped it. But there's this guy, whose name is Michael
Graves. And he's at George Mason University. He's a law
professor. He's also an American Enterprise Institute, he had
some of the most interesting things to say essentially, that
the way everybody perceives the system is all completely wrong.
There is no reason for any state to enforce or do anything with
any federal law. And in fact, two states have already are
right now in the process of opting out of the US Code.
And which states would those be?
I haven't found out yet. Some of the one of these guys just
mentioned it in passing. So I'm gonna look into that. But here,
let's just take a look on grid play grabs on state's enforcing
federal laws. And this is a moment for people who like to
show to actually learn something about your country.
Do and no state has to enforce federal laws or prohibitions,
by the way, and not everyone who listened to the show lives in
this country. So
no, I know. But we have 90% of the vocab. Sorry, I said that
90% of our listeners do live in the United States. The other
ones are usually expats or people that want to learn more
about the united states and the federal system there. And I
found I kept this thing longer. This clip really went on for a
while, it would have talked about the EU and how they tried
to copy the federal system. Right? Well, they're screwing it
up. And he this guy talks about that, too. And the fact is that,
you know, we're we're somehow along the lines, we've got this
in our heads that federal law Trumps state law, in what in
what universe is this,
although state courts, of course, are still required to do
so. Now, it turns out that that sounds trivial, but I think it
plays itself out in hugely important context, much more
important in their own way than the more marijuana context. So
here's an example. Excuse me. One of these days, the Supreme
Court will decide whether it wants to grant cert or not, in
the second go around have a case called Bond versus United
States. It arose over basically a marital dispute. She wife
smear a chemical on a doorknob and the car door of her rival.
And this resulted in a thumb burn. And this woman was then
prosecuted by state officials in Pennsylvania under a federal law
that implements the Chemical Weapons Convention. It's called
Bond versus United States. And the question in this case is
whether the federal law is even constitutional? I don't think
so. But the Third Circuit said yes. But even while saying yes.
All of the judges on the Third Circuit said what do you people
there at the local level think when you enforce these kinds of
federal laws, you don't have to? The reason why this matters is
you know, the Heritage Foundation has to have an
overcriminalization, workgroup, federal overcriminalization
workgroup for the past, I don't know 1520 years. And it's never
gone anywhere. But it might go someplace. If local officials
could stop themselves from cooperating with the feds in
enforcing these ludicrous federal laws, many of them would
turn into the press releases that they deserve to be there's
something
really, really sick about listening to a German tell me
about my own country.
Yeah, well, I know it's a problem because you know, you
think other people be thinking along the same lines. I mean,
this guy is a is a law professor, a very well known
apparently, everyone always defer to him in this panel, and
he's a libertarian and self proclaimed libertarian, and he's
and his basic thesis is that these federal laws if they want
to if the Feds want to put federal laws out there The Fed
should police them themselves because there's no reason that
any state should enforce any federal law under any
circumstances.
I think we've talked about this before, but this is the exact
reason why. Now, with this with the guns conversation, no one is
actually going towards repealing the Second Amendment. The 14th
amendment is not being invoked for the debt ceiling. Now,
there's no talk about the 10th amendment. And I think the
reason why is that the the citizenry of the United States
has, has basically been tricked, been duped into believing that
everything that Washington says is God and His law. And we don't
really want to draw attention to the Constitution. So we just
completely ignore it, and pretend like it doesn't exist. I
think that's the strategy. And you know, this, the trillion
dollar coin is now also not going to happen. Because in no
way do we want to draw any attention to you know, what can
and can't be done. It's just just making it up. And the
people really believe it's almost like that you can only
vote for the one Republican or one Democrat candidate, that
people really believe that at this point, you
know, they've been brainwashed. And I think the reason why this
is important, especially in the EU, is when the when when
Belgian, the Belgian overlords tell the French that they can't
use wood to put the goat goat cheese on anymore.
Remove your wood from my goat cheese.
They can't put they can't have a wood plate, you have to use
plastic. The French don't I mean, if it's done properly, and
I think this is true, it's these guys and in Britain is exactly
the same problem. They don't have to stick and you say screw
it, we're just not going to enforce it. You bring your own
police. Do you have police? Do you? Well, you've agreed to do
this.
Well hold on. That's not entirely true. Because with
every single step that they make, they're in the European
Union with every single new pact and compact, you'll remember
we've had the Herman Van Rompuy literally saying there will be a
pooling of sovereignty. So there they are, they actually are
drawing up the documents that removes the sovereignty of the
states, they're already called states, and places that with
with Starfleet Command and Brussels, so they're actually
drawing up the documents
wasn't asked because these guys are agreeing to it. I think
that's the point there this guy makes is that the states don't
have to, like he says, enforce federal law is that their job
they got their own laws to enforce. But here's what's
interesting about this marijuana debate, some Dutch guy, oh, and
by the way, he was later referred to as the guy from the
UN by one of the other panelists, that was peculiar.
Some Dutch guy brought up this very unusual that I've never
heard before. And none of the panelists heard before, but
grebs does have a comment about it.
Thank you, my name is HPs kind of microphone from one of those
governments that you mentioned to the Netherlands. We have I
think the context was even then it was even I was going to say
that the United States is rapidly becoming a more liberal
country than the Netherlands, on issues as gay marriage, but also
as legalizing marijuana because we only did decriminalize it and
have legalized it, as was rightly mentioned, but I would
like the panel to address the international implications a
little more, when the federal government would decide to leave
these states leave the acts in the states in the books, because
it's a clear violation of international obligations by the
United States. There are several treaties which don't allow for
legalization in any way of marijuana. If we if the United
States decides not to enforce these acts, and these
international obligations, what would the effects abroad be? I
would could consider you've always asked other countries to
obey by these international treaties. If you stop doing that
yourself. Could that mean that eventually other countries that
produce the drugs had decided not to live up to their treaty
obligations? And what kind of effect would that happen? So I'd
like you to address that. Thank
you. That's a that is actually a very good question.
That was a good question. They all kind of joined in but grabs
the the the the law professor chum had the most interesting
answer. Which clip is that? Grabs on treaty?
Thank you.
happens with these internationals usually right. In
my experience. Yeah, unfortunately, in this case, you
probably have so what what happens? Well, as far as I don't
know, the specifics of the treaties at issue, right. But
this is, in fact another one of these sort of federalism issues
that you mentioned at the beginning. and that will come to
the forefront. Our international obligations by and large, don't
bind the states is true of our consular obligations even. And
it is true in this regard to that is to say if we the United
States, find ourselves internationally, to put not to
decriminalize marijuana, that will bind the federal
government, but the state governments or the state
governments and the answer to foreign countries, unless
there's something in the treaties that we committed to,
the answer is sorry, I would like
to know what and this is, this is what bothers me about this
conversation is no one's telling me what treaty because this is
exactly what happens on any media except the best podcast in
the universe. And what I like to do is say, oh, yeah, what is the
treaty? Give me the number. I'll go read it, I'll go see what's
what is in it. And then I will see if it was ratified by the
Senate or not, and we ratify very few UN treaties. So I'm not
sure there's
a treaty that was done in 1972, apparently, and I think the
numbers available, it may be mentioned, specifically in the
Bolivia, a clip, which apparently was brought by one of
the other panelists, Bolivia has said, regarding this exact same
treaty, that they're just going to renege on the cocaine thing,
and they're gonna grow as much coke as they feel like and they
don't they think the treaty is bogus, if
the 1972 treaty by 284 countries, and there is
precedent, now I think they might be of one was a Latin
American country that denounced the resolutions. And then they
immediately reiterated the reservation about cocoa for
Libya, Libya and co COVID. So there is some precedent if that
goes through, and there's no objection to that, that the US
could is not going to the US. But if not go through what would
what could happen is the US could essentially the same thing
could denounce that resolution and immediately re ratify with a
reservation about marijuana. So there is some if if, if this one
is completely uncharted territory,
I think it's time to point out here for a moment that none of
this can be legalized, because this is the business of the
government. The government is in the cocaine smuggling and sales
business, the government
in the marijuana has a different track, and I would say is, is
accurate, we should we
should we should be going to these, these forums, John, and
we should have a session in the next room. You know, and you'll
be able to, like, you know, like all these hoity toity guys, the
German guy, the Dutch guy, and then we'd be next door, and the
conference would be hookers and blow make the world go round.
Adam curry and John C. Dvorak. And we should just stand there.
Just tell people what's really going on? Yes, banks. Yeah.
Yeah. And the banks are laundering the money, because
they're wasting their time in this conversation. Because it's
all just, it's all just imaginary, imaginary like, oh,
yeah, we'll do what the UN says, oh, yeah, we'll do with what
Washington says just imaginary.
So so the only other little tidbit I thought was really
great in this conference was this rhetorical question, which
was asked again, by grabs of the of a guy who was a US Attorney
in Colorado, who was against the legalization in Colorado, and
He's beside himself, he actually had a lot of great stories to
tell the Colorado guy about how when you know, how they don't
enforce how the feds are so afraid to come in the states and
enforce stuff. But this question, is the one that I
think kind of touches on part of what you just said. But it's
kind of interesting. It's just an interesting another question
I've never heard before. Is this aiding and abetting? Yeah.
Can I just ask Troy two questions that maybe sound
paranoid, but
supposed to how long have we walked on the moon?
Cool officials that assist the dispensaries or whatever they're
called in the States? Oh, sure, in sort of setting up these
things, and how to stay clear of state law, prohibitions set
aiding and abetting under the under federal law, and the
other, I mean, along the same lines or similar lines, and this
just shows I'm a paranoid libertarian. Suppose these
dispensaries and you know, legitimate enterprises under
state law, put their money in their business accounts with
some bank. Could the Treasury then come along and saying, Tell
you what, you're in violation of 15 federal laws aiding and
abetting criminal enterprises, but if you buy the next country
wide, will make it go away?
I think the answer is yes. And yes. Very funny.
Yeah. Yeah,
it was so he could come to our session, obviously, step by step
next door, my friend, you'd be really perfect for our session.
He better in our session anyway.
Interesting. Yeah. So I like it. I like it. I see I Well, this
was, this was kind of funny. just catching up with some US
News here
when he's around the country are cashing in their first paycheck
of the new year and they're feeling the pinch. Every
employee in America started paying the 2% higher payroll tax
as of January the first but
I love this. I love how no one covered this during the fiscal
cliff. And you know, there was just 2% payroll tax that was
being retired, which was an Obama cut and an Obama
retirement. And and everyone's like, would do it. What 2% is
more than more than you think. Yeah. 2% can really,
yeah, it's noticed can really hurt.
President show this morning is little YouTube show, they're
just chuckled at what is basically all the same things.
Now he's just going into repetition mode. Like you know,
we're going to solve climate change, you know, we're going to
protect children from the horror of gun violence, which I just
love. This is new, protect children from the horror of gun
violence. And but he kind of starts it off with something
fun. Hi, everybody. Hi, Al.
This week, I welcome President Hamid Karzai to the White House
to discuss the way ahead in Afghanistan. And today, I want
to update you on how we will end this war. That's all I needed to
hear. Hey, hey,
hey, Heil Obama. Do you have a little update on how we end this
war? Who says that? Who is like, hello, nation, Heil update here
on on how we're going to end the war? This is the total insanity.
total insanity from this from this man. But were really what
really got my goat is the Vice President Oh, Biden. And so you
know, he's, he is just so loving this, by the way. He's loving
the attention. Finally, he's in the picture because he has to
deliver the recommendations to the President on how we're going
to make sure this never happens. Again, if we can only save one
child with all the things we're going to do with gun violence,
if just one and that will be enough. And of course, when we
look at the Sandy Hook, occurrence, we really have zero
visual evidence zero is just absolutely zero visual evidence.
But of course, we have Vice President Joe Biden, to give
that to us. And when I heard him do this, you know, I just makes
my skin crawl
all my years involved in these issues. There is nothing that
has prick the conscious consciousness of the American
people. There is nothing that has gone to the heart of the
matter more than the visual image people have a little
secure kids riddle. Not shot straight, riddle. Riddle.
So here's the vice president saying there's nothing that
pricks the imagination of people more than the visual image of
little six year olds riddled, not shot riddled. riddled with
bullets. We had there is no there is no visual image when no
one has seen this. This is based purely on the crazy Taj the
crate that the crazy reportage of the medical examiner, but
listen to it again. Just he is he is programming, programming
people's brains with this Oh, kids river griddle,
not shot shot. Riddle, riddle riddled,
I mean, just riddled, riddled, shot to shreds. This is really,
really, really dangerous. What's going on here? The bullet holes
bullet hole in their classroom, in the classroom.
And the public demands we speak to it. I'm not sure that we can
guarantee this will never happen again. Because the presence even
if what we do only saves one life one life,
no matter what you do, as long as it saves one life. This is I
think this is how we should be setting policy for everything in
America. As long as it can save one life, we should implement
the law.
It makes sense. And I think we should ban skiing without in any
way. imposing on or impinging on
now. No, no, wait for him. Listen to how he addresses the
media because this of course, is a media event. Right? So
the second amendment that the Second Amendment guarantees.
That's what this was about. I thank you all for being here.
And now with your permission and permission of the press to get
down to some business here and I thank the press for
now. With the permission of the press, if I can please have
permission from the press, and I thank the press for propagating
my riddled formula. It's very, very frightening, but not quite
as frightening as the 20 minutes of Anderson, Vanderbilt pooper
who closed the matrix officially, John, as of what I
saw, I was at Saturday night, the matrix is complete, the
matrix is closed, there is people who still watch
mainstream media news, or mainstream media in general, but
certainly if they get their information and news from there,
I'm sorry, they are, they can no longer be helped. And they will
just have to fall by the wayside. If they stumble upon
the best podcast in the universe, or if they get
interested somehow and start listening. And you know, and
they they get on board, then they're lucky. But I think most
people who are now still in the matrix, their blue pill, I
guess, that they're lost, and, and he did 20 minutes. And I was
I had ignored this story. Because I just wanted to like,
you know, okay, here with the guy saying, there's a professor
at a Florida State University, professor of Media, Community
Media Communication Sciences, and he wrote a blog post, where
he said, very similar to what, to what I said in the
conversation you and I had, that there is no real evidence of any
of this that went down the way that the media has portrayed it.
And he was actually in a very scholarly fashion hedging the
way he said it, but of course, if you take out of context, it's
like he said, it never happened. It was actors. He's insane, you
know, so but he was you know, he wrote you wrote it and this this
went around the, the blogosphere a little bit, you know, people
were sending me the link, etc. But now Anderson Cooper decides
to do 20 minutes, 20 minutes with experts about this guy's
blogpost and I've distilled that 20 minutes down to 51235 clips.
Of much shorter length. I have about a minute each, but you
have to listen to what is happening. As you hear the door
of the matrix closing shut behind us. This is proof this is
Anderson Cooper. And I'll let it play but you will you will.
You'll be the one stopping the clips today, John, it's
unbelievable when you hear this.
Good evening, everyone. We begin tonight, keeping them honest
with a story that is frankly hard to believe you're gonna
want to sit down for this one, nearly one month, the
dumb sorry, are you sitting down, John, you're gonna want to
sit down. I
think anybody's really standing up when they're watching this
show.
But he's about to keep them honest. So you need to make sure
that you're sending them honest cinema.
The horrific shootings in Newtown, Connecticut in which 26
people were killed, including 20 children. Tonight, we expose a
number of people who are claiming that the Sandy Hook
shootings were staged. Now there are always conspiracy theorists
lurking online who come up with some horrifically outrageous
claims. working normally, we will not dignify these kinds of
claims with our airtime is claims are obviously sickening
to many in Newtown have spent the past four weeks crying and
consoling burying friends and family members trying to figure
out how to restart their lives. As I said, normally, we wouldn't
even mention these conspiracy theories. But it turns out, one
of the people who's peddling one version of this conspiracy
theory is actually a tenured associate professor at Florida
Atlantic University.
I just wanna stop this for a second. Now, do you think that
because it's a professor, a tenured professor at a
university in Florida, that that should really be the reason for
Anderson Cooper to to throw out his morals of not propagating
conspiracy theories, and never ever ever talking about it? Do
you think that there's a this is a valid reason, John?
Well, it is if you want to, you know, make sure that the
academic Shut up. Now what you end up with what you have in
many of these situations, when somebody's slightly naive about
how the internet works in the end, and the kind of blowback
you can get from doing certain things a certain way. A lot of
people don't understand how nasty it can be. And we've tried
to train most of them, so they just shut up and do their thing.
And they don't get bothered by anything. So this professor
comes out of the blue thinking that he might actually, you
know, might encourage some free thinking.
But he made the kind of stuff that goes on at universities.
Well, that actually doesn't go on in universities that much but
it does go on to some extent within certain realms, but he
obviously stepped outside whatever boundaries there were,
and he had to be slept back hard, which is the reason for
this being 20 minutes, by the way, because it seems to me that
if Cooper is exactly doing exactly what he says he's doing
which is ignoring these crazy conspiracies. I agree why bring
this guy up unless it was just it was like some like the system
trying to shove this guy back into his cage and get back to
work idiot
State University that gets taxpayer money. His name is Jay
Z. Wait, hold on a second. This is the kind of thing that Rush
Limbaugh and these guys you'd bring up. Oh, the use of
taxpayers money to you and now we get this coming from him? Uh
huh. No, that's a good one. Go switch a router.
Oh, the matrix door just closed a little bit more
Eames? Tracy, this is a picture of him. That's what he looks
like.
By the way, let's shame him. Here's a picture. Look at the
picture. Look at the picture of the guy. We're gonna make it
look stupid. James
Tracy is his name. Now he James Tracy. Remember the name claims
the shooting did not happen as reported and may not have
happened at all. Here's what he wrote on his personal blog. And
I quote
now, of course, he's quoting out of context. And, you know,
because the guy read it really, they're just pulling pieces of
sentences out the guy hedged it on all sides,
one is left to inquire whether the Sandy Hook shooting ever
took place, at least in the way law enforcement authorities and
the nation's news media have described. Tracy makes the case
if you want to call it that, that news organizations and the
government.
You want to call it down? Oh, it
gets better. Wait, wait until you hear what they would come
with Cooper is going to say in a minute
may have worked together to dupe you the public in order to gain
support for gun control laws. He even is suggesting that the
government may have hired trained crisis actors to aid in
this ruse. That's right trained crisis actors. He's not
convinced the parents whose children were killed are really
who they say they are. In his blog. Tracy, again, a professor
suggests they may have been and I quote, trained actors working
under the direction of state and federal authorities, and in
coordination with cable and broadcast network talent to
provide tailor made crisis acting in quote, Tracy even
cites a company called crisis actors that provides actors to
use in safety drills and the light, apparently that is
supposed to bolster his case. Now, when a local reporter
caught up with Tracy and asked him about this outrageous theory
is my trigger. Here's what he said, Listen,
you had 20 families that were mourning that very children. Are
you concerned about that at all?
Well, I think that the entire country mourn about about Sandy
Hook. And yet, once again, the investigation that journalistic
institutions should have actually carried out never took
place. As far as I'm concerned, I think that we need to, as a
society, look at things more carefully. Perhaps we as a
society, have been conditioned to be duped.
So now, of course, you know, the kitchen, the guy in the hallway,
he's got his bookbag on his shoulder, I mean, just to make
it even worse. But of course, he's saying something that we
talk about all the time that, you know, society has been
trained to be duped into by the media into all types of things.
You would agree with that assessment, right? But
that's just part of our thesis does on this show. Now listen to
how pooper
comes out of this.
Now, I don't even really know what that means. What he is
saying what the words coming out of his mouth means. Really.
Anderson Cooper doesn't know what the words coming out of his
mouth mean.
I mean, seriously? Well, if you're going to play that game,
yeah, that's what you'd say
suggest to reporters on the ground didn't work to find out
what happened there on the ground is beyond crazy.
Beyond crazy. We do. To suggest that reporters were not doing
their job is beyond crazy. Ladies and gentlemen, everybody
asked questions. But that's what we do. Journalism isn't a
perfect science, of course. But to suggest that somehow means
the shootings didn't happen that 20 children weren't killed that
families didn't suffer and aren't still suffering is beyond
comprehension. And obviously deeply offensive to many.
So he's going to bring in some experts, but he has to it you
know, what, the only thing I could think of is you pro do
doth protest too much we think you know, this is like wow, I
mean, do we really have to go to these extremes?
Yeah, no, I think that's kind of the giveaway there's no reason
for it if you know resist a crackpot just say he's a
crackpot say he's a crackpot and ignore him. I mean, that's what
you normally do. No, no, we why is this guy more dangerous? And
you know, to be honest about it if I was on the other side of
this, and I was on the dude, yeah, Anderson. Keeping them on
a side. That's exactly what I do. I would not play this up
unless I was trying to draw attention to it. Maybe actually,
maybe Cooper's like sick of this. And he's actually drawing
attention to it for a reason and then Jay then making it look as
regret. I don't think that's true.
No, but now, so they try to terrorize this guy that go stay
at the post.
This is bullying by the way. Oh, this
is huge bullying. Whoa, Anderson.
So I know you also ask the President, by the way, what is
he a professor of it like media studies or something?
Yes, yes. And communications in the Department of
Communications. That is correct. Okay. He wouldn't know about
this bullcrap. Well,
so instead of you would know about this bullcrap Anderson
throws it the other way and says, the guy who's
in the Department of Communications does not want to
communicate.
Well, I love that. I love it how he does though the media
or addressed this in the media at all. But you asked the
president of this unit of this college at this university FAU
about it, what is she telling? are they standing by him?
So of course he got it. You know, what would the President
of the University say, John? I mean, this is what
he likes to say keep said college first to demean it.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Good one. I didn't caught that. Yeah, absolutely. Right. We
talked to a President Mary Jane Saunders and Mary Jane codename
for marijuana and they are clearly distancing themselves
from Professor Tracy.
We want to make it very clear that he was speaking as an
individual. He was not speaking in his role as a professor at
FAU. And the university has a very different statement about
the shootings, the terrible tragedy that took place in
Newtown, Connecticut.
Did you have the why should they have a statement at all? Okay,
the university does not support this position. And I personally
and am heartbroken about the additional stress to these
families or at this time, heartbroken,
heartbroken. Now there's no word on what the university could or
would do Anderson. He is a tenured professor, as you
mentioned, and in fact, the blog that he writes on is not in any
way affiliated with the university
no people are free to express themselves as they want but I
think you know if he's a legitimate presser, he should be
willing to defend his statements and again, I just want to reread
what he said on his
do crap that you want Anderson
so I'll cut this off. So then he now we now we've got to bring in
some experts. And this is a one of the experts I know because I
interviewed one of the experts, but first he brings in some some
douche from salon magazine. So you know you should if I was
that an expert writer because he's been, according to
Anderson, he's been following this from day one. So he's just
a shield douche. Some guy with double I forget his name with a
double named ha Joining
me now our salon.com Political reporter Alex Seitz, Wald, who
did the early reporting. Alex Seitz, Wald, who did the early
reporting who got the early script on this story, which is
where we initially heard this stuff. Also Jonathan Kaye of the
National Post and author of among the truthers. It's a
member
I interviewed that guy that among the John juicers, yeah,
and he so he actually works for an anti Muslim think tank in
Washington, DC. And he all conspiracy theories, according
to him, is about the Jews. Everything he says oh, they just
want to hate the Jews journey
through America's growing conspiracist underground. So
Alex, it's hard for me to wrap my mind around these theories.
It's not like they're coming just from one person or group. I
mean, there are websites, YouTube videos, blog posts, all
devoted to these absurd theories, sir,
yeah, I mean, there's really a surprising universe out there.
If you Google Emily Parker's name, the girl you mentioned,
who the conspiracy theorists think is actually alive. The
very first result that comes up at least when I googled it was a
conspiracy website.
Now, this is very important, because I think that this is a
new meme. And this will be used to start to for Google to start
filtering things out. Because of course, it's an outrage when you
Google for a dead girl's name, that a conspiracy website comes
up you watch this is going to happen that Google will be
filtering out things because entire network addresses will be
filtered out because they don't represent the new normal and the
truth of keeping them honest.
One of the most polished professional looking videos was
produced by 911 Truth or company or they produced a video after
911 that got a lot of attention. This one kind of ties it all
together. And I just checked a few minutes ago, it has almost
200,000 views on YouTube, Alex Jones who went off against Piers
Morgan the other night, his website has a whole community
forum section where there are just dozens and dozens and
dozens of posting dozens about these things. Don't if you just
Google Sandy Hook hoax you can find all kinds of things out
there. So I mean, this is a real strain within the movement out
there you know, these paranoid people who think the government
is coming to snatch their guns
and I mean what's you know, this is not we off camera?
What was that? Is this this is stuttering Oh, yeah. To a number
of families today who didn't even want to come on camera
because they are too upset about this to even address the fact
that Emily particulier
yeah they didn't want to come on even to because they didn't want
because I don't know, because they're actors family,
you know, if they Google her name, or anyone who knew in my
pocket, Google's her name. And the first thing that would come
up would be this this sickening conspiracy theory, based on the
fact that her sister wore the same dress that hurt that Emily
Parker had once worn in a photograph to meet with
President Obama. I mean, that's that is just adding insult
to injury and I was sick is putting the so called sister in
the dead sisters dress. That's what sick, but maybe it's just
Majorie.
Jonathan, why don't we see conspiracy theories pop up. I
mean, in the wake of tragedies like this is that people can't
wrap their mind around something why this would happen? Or is it
just simply linked to the whole idea that these are people who
believe the government's trying to take their guns, and this is
just a way that they're trying to take guns, here comes
conspiracy theories or explanations for evil. And
generally speaking, people hate the idea of random evil. They
like the idea that evil is focused in some
way. Why did this guy go from being on mic? And now he's in a
bucket? What happened?
No, this is the so the other guys the salon guy. This is the
guy who wrote the truth. He's
in a bucket talking through his microphone on his Mac lab.
He's on Skype. Exactly. And instead of doing it
professionally, he's all back away. And the whole point is,
he's just gonna say it's about the Jewish
people. Whether it's who knows, you know, whether it's Jews or
Muslims or
Jews or Muslims. So So now Cooper has to take it a little
bit further. And he's going to ask this expert about, you know,
the different kinds of conspiracy theorists John, and I
think he, I think he nails it. In fact, that says exactly what
you just said,
divide conspiracy theorists into kind of two camps, cranks and
firebrands, what's the difference?
cranks and firebrands, whatever that is, well, the firebrands
tend to be the young folk, I mean, the ones that you see it
with sometimes 911 On the anniversary, you'll see these
people marching the so called 911 truth movement, they tend to
be young people, you often see them on university campuses. Oh,
you
mean like students, people who are whose minds are expanding
and don't necessarily watch the propaganda that you are putting
into their heads
cranks tend to be older types?
Ooh, hold on. Hello.
Be Me. No, I
think it's actually me.
So 240s and 50s. Often their college professors, college
professors, they're all crazy. They're crazy cranks
off their computer scientists, often people with a very
technical frame of mind, too, are drawn to these very
intricate conspiracy theories.
And they have butt cracks. I know them. They're sis admins,
they're almost
always men for reasons that I explained in my books. And often
these are very mild mannered individuals. For instance, one
of the leaders of the 911 conspiracy movement was a
teacher, a professor at California named David Ray
Griffin, very mild, mannered, professorial guy who's actually
a theologian. And these people are drawn to the movement.
Usually they're very intelligent, and they love the
idea that they're unraveling some huge puzzle, which and
they'll get to the source of all the world's evil.
Well, there you go. So it's obviously we're crazy, you know,
and mild mannered, intelligent people who are often at the
intelligence level of college professor aren't conspiracy
theorists.
Can I ask a question here? Since you saw this thing? I didn't see
it. Yeah, I would assume that because he's discussing this the
professor all the rest of it, that he showed that clip of
Emily's Dad, no. Getting into getting into acting mode. On the
camera. No, that would be crazy. No, no, that will be shown it.
Everybody who's keeping them honest. It's argument keeping
them on the net clip. So he showed it right? No, he did not.
Oh, keeping them
honest. Well, anyway, so to wind this up, but Anderson is now
going to deconstruct how absurd it is to think that there could
ever be ever ever could be a conspiracy between government
and the media.
We should like that. Has he ever read it? Have you ever heard of
the right? Even picked up a history book in his
has ever heard the main it's unconscionable of Tomkin? He's
never heard of any of these things? No,
it does not exist MK Ultra. None of this is completely, you know,
Operation Gladio none of this stuff. It never has happened in
the world, in the entire universe of history. And he's
going to help us understand that this is crazy to even think that
thing I mean, Alex
that so I find idiotic about a lot of these conspiracy theories
is you know, nothing remains secret for very long so it's not
as if the I mean, the government can't keep you know, things that
are actually classified information secrets. Well, yeah,
they can Like for instance, you know why it's legal to kill
people with drones that's being kept secret. The kill list
itself that's being kept secret. So the government interest
there is a there is a legal document somewhere that has been
kept secret and gives the President authorization to kill
Americans yes
to kill them.
We haven't seen that. No, it will release it. That's secret.
And I
think they're doing a good job of keeping that pretty secret. I
think that's doing a good job. Yeah, the
equity means is that sometime around 5060 75 years from now,
it will be revealed Yes,
exactly. About a
lot of these conspiracy theories is, you know, nothing remains
secret for very long. So it's not as if the I mean, the
government
enters in Cooper, you kept your homosexuality secret for five
years before you finally copped to it. What are you talking
about can't
keep, you know, things that are actually classified information
secret from very belong to so many people leak stuff. So the
idea that somehow, like the news media is in cahoots with the
government, and that there were secret meetings to hire crisis
actors to get them there. I mean, it's just
so I like this, because there's secret meetings all the time.
There's always meetings going on at the White House, Rachel
Maddow, out where the Reverend Sharpton, everyone's showing up
as everyone's at the Christmas parties, this meetings all the
time with the media that we're not told about. But of course,
the Anderson actually makes a mistake here, where he and this
is the this is my big finale, he makes a mistake, where he
actually reveals that he knows what really happened
so ludicrous. Did you notice a common? I mean, was there a
common strain? When you when you were looking into these
conspiracy theories regarding Sandy Hook?
Yeah, there absolutely is, at least the vast majority of them.
And there's different variations, you know, whether it
was directly in Obama administration plot, or agents,
you know, loosely tied with the liberal movement, or even George
Soros. The common thread among all of these is that the tragedy
was a false flag operation in order to make the country
willing to give up their guns. So in other words, this tragedy
would happen. And then we would have a discussion about gun
control as we are now
this is exactly what happened. By the way, this is exactly what
happened. And then it would lay the groundwork
for the government to come in and take guns, possibly for some
kind of future, you know, tyrannical regime.
I mean, Jonathan did, I guess the Internet has kind of allowed
all this stuff to kind of Ignite in a in a way that has never has
before? I mean, they've always been conspiracy theories. It
goes back for very long, this has just allowed more isolated
people to find each other, right.
Yeah, absolutely. One of the chapters in my book, I talked
about how the Internet has turbocharged the conspiracy
theory movement, because the big challenge for conspiracy
theorists used to be getting the word out because respectable
journalists wouldn't touch their stories. But now conspiracy
theory is usually they don't even bother trying to go to the
mainstream media, they just publish it on their website. And
they can create their own little echo chambers of paranoid
individuals who all share the same distress. And by the way,
just to correct something is true that the majority of the
Sandy Hook conspiracy theories revolve around the idea of gun
control. But there is a large contingent that believed that
this was somehow an Israeli false flag operation. TV, which
is to the
Jews, this is always
about the Jews. Why would the Israel do it? Why did how did
the Israelis get involved in this?
Notice what he's saying, instead of why what he said, How did he
change that? Do you know this is not the thing I want to point
out? But this thing I just noticed Anderson went from,
instead of, because the correct question would be, why would
someone bringing the juice? Instead he says, how did they
get involves shit? Back it up a little more.
It's a large contingent that believed that this was somehow
under Israeli false flag operation. Press TV, which is
not really in control.
Why would the Israel do it? What how did the Israelis get
involved in this?
It was interesting, wasn't it? He was like,
okay, recording? Well, the idea is that it was a Mossad
operation. And it's the same people who believe that Andrew
is brave, it was actually secretly somehow a Mossad agent.
These are people who have identified by crank.
Universities picked almost are evil doers. They think it's the
Jews. They think it's Israel Jewish, that they find some way
to trace any evil act, whether it's a 911 whether it's 1008
financial crisis, and they find some way to believe that all
evil was caused by this one group of actors who they hate.
And now I don't know we might frickin pay off when this is
dumb.
Your payoff is not there.
Maybe we talked over and at a certain point, Cooper says how
crazy is it to think that actors were used as government
officials at Sandy Hook? And I thought that was kind of telling
because no one has actually said that specifically that talked
about the
interesting Yeah, mostly talked over and you know, of course, we
can't we're not looking at any of this. We're not even supposed
to be covering this. I unfortunately, I have a couple
of clips.
Can I Can I just wrap this up and wrap it up and I'll go on to
my so I'll just wrap it up by saying that on January 17. There
will be another drill. Nevermind, I'm gonna leave it in
the show notes. We
have all these drills.
This is going to be a co op in downtown Chicago. Here's the
situation. This is from a document that was sent to me and
the exact wordage from our producer was I don't see
anywhere on the document that says that it's classified in a
manner that I can't send it to you. Here it is referenced
Chicago district community of Operation continuity of
operations plan, a situation downtown Chicago has been hit
with cyber terrorism, resulting in limited communications. The
Federal Executive Board will be conducting a co op exercise on
the 16th of January 2013. with FEMA Federal Emergency
Management Agency supporting as the control cell for the F EB
each participating federal agency reacts by moving their
command and control to their continuity of operations site to
ensure continuation of essential operations. So all I'm saying is
let's be on the lookout for the 16th Wednesday Chicago cyber
operations now Chicago of course, is where the the
commodities exchange is housed. So there could be a number of
things but whenever they whenever they do a drill you're
always got to be looking out so I would say we should be on the
lookout for that.
So just as a few follow ups I thought the most ludic Yeah, we
are on the lookout I put in the green red book.
Wait, you have a green book too?
I know I don't have a green book. I don't know why I said
Green Book. And maybe it was a cut in pay. Maybe have a secret
green
keeping them honest. Sounds like you gotta say,
here's a dumbest clip. And then I'll get to some funnier clips
including and then some insightful clips. But it's all
kind of a follow up to what you just did. But let's start off
with the MA foes not want to clip which I thought was just
like what what really,
in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary shootings,
Massachusetts has removed violent arcade games from its
highway service clauses it has taken the action over concern
that residents from neighboring Connecticut may be offended by
those games.
Wow. Yeah, don't offend me. Tipping Point,
you guys are heartless by keeping those stupid arcade
games there. It's unbelievable. The tipping point. So luckily,
on C span, there was a long discussion of this woman who
talked about violent video games. And she had a lot this is
kind of a fast talking a woman who wrote a book on the topic,
and she apparently is an expert on the subject. So I have two
clips. First, I have the violent video games, part one clip,
which discusses kind of the overview of you know, the
studies that have been done on violent video games. And here's
the reason I first clip these, because I'll ask you this
question. What is being attacked right now? Given two
possibilities? You have violent video games?
Yes. Which is, which is the industry that Hollywood hates
the most? Because they eat up most of their money.
And you have Hollywood? Yeah. Which has more violence than
anyone. Yeah. And it's realistic, because it's like
done realistically, it's not a game. It's good work. So which
are the two are they attacking?
Well, Hollywood, of course is going is, as far as I'm
concerned, continually attacking violent video games.
Yes. And they also supported bomb administration in a big
way. Yes. And so no one's saying anything about them? No, in
fact, going after these violent video games, so let's play a
couple of things. And we can all learn about violent video games
and their effect on the humans.
Wait a minute, first, I've got to do this. We don't have to.
See,
this is what we do. Part $1
million dollar plus research on this while you're at Harvard,
and you have basically inconclusive evidence as to the
exact relationship between violence in video games. So
where did the vice president get his information from to say that
you can't necessarily put, you know, point elites to point B?
Plus, it's basically that there isn't. There's no proven like
what for example, my study found that when you look at kids
playing M rated games, the more and rated games they play, the
more likely they were to sit to see that they bullied others or
gotten into fights. But when we've also factored in things
like parents provision, stressful life events, and
especially aggressive personality, that that
relationship kind of went away. And other research studies that
he's looking at, I think, has also been equivocal. The stuff
that has tended to support a link that was used in past
cases, including California's law that was struck down by the
Supreme Court looked at mostly college students taking Psych
101, doing little lab experiments that measured pretty
much competitiveness. And then some people would make a leap
between that and real world violence that I personally don't
agree with that so okay.
Apple already. Science. Now. Now. So the key one is, and this
actually relates back to Anderson Cooper on the thing you
just played about, you know, the media being somehow involved in
all this. I think that's part two of this violent video games
clipped, says it all,
then I want to pick up on that let's use a common sense
approach here. Do you believe that if we didn't have as many
violent video games, there might not be as many of these violent
acts in the public domain? Well, that's a tough question. Because
from what I understand, across the year, school shootings have
not gone up, this wouldn't have been bigger. But it stayed
pretty consistent. And we know that since the mid 1990s, as
access to violent games has gone way up, if you have a kid, you
know that youth violence has gone down. So and these are such
rare events, what's what's really gone up is the coverage
of the events.
Yeah. Right arm absolutely is the coverage of the events,
which is pretty poor.
Now, so in a follow up to that I have actually two what I think
are kind of interesting clips, because they're trying to keep
Piers Morgan in the game. And so Piers Morgan showed up on the
BBC News night, oh,
gloating.
Well, he's trying, they're getting given it to him. And a
good example, is this. The guns part one clip, they don't play
much of it at. But I think you can see where this is going to
head by this question.
You know, what happens here affects me and my life, and that
of my family. And the guns issue here is now I think, so
dangerous, and so out of control, that something has to
give. And if I can help frame the debate, in a way that's
constructive to getting new gun control legislation been great.
But framing the debate in the way it was, because that was
constructive. You were telling gun proponents they were stupid.
Oh, yeah. So it's very obvious what's going to happen this,
someone's going to take a shot at him.
That's going to have to happen, or maintain ratings it has to so
the guy goes after him pretty consistently appears is going on
and on. And I think that what he was the real conclusion was what
this guy suggests in clip two, and then pierce kind of avoids
the answering the question, per se, but I think this pretty much
summarizes what we're where this is headed, which you
could put 100. But it said, which can fire in less than a
minute? Yeah, they're just killing machines. Sure, but
but everybody will understand the arguments, particularly over
over here, they understand exactly what you're saying. But
you're now a political activist, you're not a journalist, are
you?
I've done my what you call me, I'm very comfortable with what
I'm doing. And I'm going to continue doing it if it makes me
popular or unpopular. isn't really the point. It's what I
believe in.
Yeah, could you just put that in the book, John, that, that
someone's gonna take a pop at him? Okay. Do you think it'll
hit home? Do you think here and his family will, will be
injured? I don't think I doubt it. I doubt it too. I think it's
just gonna, you know, it's,
that's painful if you're going to pull that stuff.
I mean, I mean, I know he's got a great contract. But wow, to go
through that to take a take a slug for the contract,
the second one
for the team. So I do want to put one more thing into the book
here. And then we need to thank some people. I've been really
closely observing the National Rifle Association, the NRA in
this debate. And I am going to tell you right now, these guys
are on the same team. The NRA is not your gun friend. And, you
know, I'm, they got like 150 million a year. I mean, really,
this is the big scary organization, that's peanuts
these days, if you want to get something done, you can't get
anything done with that kind of money. And the chairman, you
know, he makes about a little under a million dollars a year,
you know, how I look at all these nonprofit form 990s and
stuff. That's an exorbitant salary for a nonprofit. And
that's because, you know, he's an actor, he's a very well paid
actor. And I think these guys are actually working in concert,
in concert, I tell you to help take away the guns. And in fact,
not only are they doing that, but they're, they're actually
working to now create this, this crazy list. So we're going to
have a nationwide I think 30 states already have it, but it's
going to be if you've ever been prescribed any type of
antidepressant, which is a large segment of the slaves, then you
will not be allowed to have a gun. You will not no one in your
house will be able to have a gun. And of course, we're also
going to misuse that list later on for a whole bunch of other
things. You know, you'll you'll you won't be able to opt out at
the airport, you know, you'll have a secondary screening
everywhere. You know, maybe you might not be allowed to drive.
You know, this is this is really where this is headed. And I
think the NRA is complicit and it just kind of hit me. I don't
have any full on worse right now other than I do know that they
have actually created, like, more expenses for gun dealers
and and the gun industry that made it more expensive. And they
actually take a piece of that as well on the back end. I do not
think there are they are your friend. And what this will all
lead to, eventually is not just like, oh, I don't know what the
Alex Jones types are talking about. But the President Obama
promised very, very clearly in 2008 what his plan was when it
comes to security in the homeland, and there's not going
to be everyone having their own weapon is going to be this
cannot continue to rely only on our military. In order to
achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've
got to have a civilian national security force that's just as
powerful just as strong, just as well funded.
Now you remember this because that's what he promised he
doesn't forget that clip. Yeah, that's what he promised a
national security force just as strong as our military just as
strong as our military so so I'm, you know, I'm putting that
clip in the evergreens. I have a feeling we're gonna have to
revisit that in the next couple of years.
What Yeah, no, I think it's well, you know, it's interesting
maybe Homeland Security will prevent this from happening
since they've become this. I'm going to show my school by
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Without them. Today's show isn't possible. That's
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So I have two theories on this theory number one, since he was
the co author of RSS 1.031 Is the Dave Winer killed him. That
was that was the first thing I came up with. And that's where
you're supposed to laugh.
Yeah, it's hilarious. Dave, I hope you think do you realize
it's a joke? As if Dave ever listens to this show, I never
never bought he's a total Obama bot.
And I thought calling him a murderer was bad enough. You
didn't have to, like lay the Obama but stuff on there.
I didn't say Obama. But so.
So here's the thing that that bothers me. And we're almost
done with the donation. So this was a very, very smart guy. And,
you know, the typical reporting is like, all you read his, you
know, he was smart, he was great. He was intelligent. He
was depressed, he hung himself. smart guys, when they want to
kill themselves. I just don't buy the hanging thing. It's
like, Yeah, I
kind of agree. Really smart guy would set up an insurance
policy. Thank you do all kinds of crazy things. And do a little
skydiving. Yes, exactly.
have all kinds of stuff going on, and just not the hanging
thing. Now that is that. So 17 century, like, it just doesn't
make any sense anymore. And no one's questioning, there's not a
thing. Everyone's like, Oh, he's dead, he killed him. So it makes
total sense. Totally makes total sense. He wanted to find him a
million dollars, throw him in jail forever, makes total sense.
He was gonna kill himself. I'm not buying it. In fact, I
believe that he found something. And he was trying to leverage
his way out of whatever situation he was in with
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information about some shenanigans that went on with
the most recent election, possibly, you know, the, there
was some there's a whole theory about voting machines. And the
the owner of the, I think the chairman of the Spanish company
that runs the voting machines. He was he died unexpectedly, you
know, they he ran out and he was run off the road by some other
car, I have a feeling that he was downloading a lot of stuff.
And he had a lot of information and a lot of stuff from the
Ministry of Justice. And I have a feeling that he was trying to
leverage his way out of all this crap with whatever he found, and
I think I feel more comfortable with thinking that he was
killed. I just can't buy this hanging thing that just you
know, and no one no one questions this.
And by the way, a lot of work to hang yourself to emotionally cut
their wrist and sit in the bathtub, just take some
pills, or, or you know, miss a lot of
yummy for a guy's depress, or, you know, you'd lose a lot of
energy and depressed. Didn't you think you got to do the work?
You gotta go into the hangar
with a rope and all this stuff was like, No, I don't know
that it's gonna work.
Exactly. That's also not a surefire way. No, it's really
about hanging. I mean, you know, as if you had yet to follow long
distance and break your neck or you just choke while you're
hanging there. I mean, nobody does not really explained. So
why would you do it?
I don't I really don't like it. I mean, I kind of with you. And
and I don't like that people aren't asking the question, you
know, rest and all that because, and by the way, just the fact
we're having this conversation, there will be people who are
saying,
I can't believe yet. I can't believe you are talking. He only
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I never get these letters.
Now. I get it all the time. They're already coming in now.
Oh, is the chat room. That's another read. I don't know. I
know, the
chat room, I think is actually on board with this one. But you
know, it's like he was a hero. He was an annoying kid. I
remember that. He was you know, he was way too smart. And he was
he was just way too smart. I remember the early days are like
blogging. He's not
dead if he's that smart.
Who knows? Who knows? We know nothing. Because as usual,
everyone just Oh, well that it's in the newspaper must be true
list.
Like a checklist of boom, a depression. Yeah, it'd be
invaluable. So check, check, check. Yeah, suicide hanging.
And
you know, if Cory Doctorow and Boing Boing write about it.
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Yeah, yeah. So it's
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It's gone. Just just gone. It's just just evaporates. And also,
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Because that we do get that people going. Just don't feel
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That's a shame. That
is a shame. That is a shame. In our day, hold on. Let me just
pick up the hookers and blow
so I got a couple couple clips. And or the second half of the
show. What are you doing? I'm putting the hookers and blow
away lightning to you? It sounds like this rain stick again. I
got the hang of it. No.
Rain in Austin lightning
in California swine flu, swine flu, swine flu. You can't be
quite good.
Let's just let's I got a standalone clip. For starters,
my stick is better than your stick.
My stick is pretty cool looking. I have a I have a standalone
clip that I think is of great interest to everyone worldwide
important and especially to some of our listeners and I just
found this to be incredible clip. This was this is the guy
he's been on that I couldn't have more closer Morris Davis,
who was the chief prosecutor at Gitmo and quit in a huff and
he's going around the country talking about how we should have
shut this thing down. It's a joke. You would it cost to keep
a person that get more than one person that get mo for one year
I think about $100,000 $850,000 Really per person. Holy crap.
What are they? What are they He's serving him caviar through
that hood.
It's unbelievable. Anyway, he goes on about one thing or
another. But this, this, this, this prosecutor clip I have
here, this clip was the I O Perec. TJC caught it when he was
listening to this guy, he goes, I go, Holy crap, this, nobody
knows this.
And I mentioned, I think the drone program is another area
where it's a mistake to talk about a program when we've got a
military program that's governed by the laws of war. You know,
when you hear people talk about, you know, these drone strikes,
we use the principles of proportionality and military
necessity and distinction and all the law of war rules that
regulate the armed forces. And by following those rules,
military personnel have combat in immunity, which, if you
killed during combat is not murder, you have immunity as a
combatant. And then collateral damage, as a corollary of that,
you know, if you drop a bomb, and it kills the bad guy, and
some people around them, as long as you applied the principles of
the laws of war, then those deaths are collateral damage
that are covered by combatant immunity. But the CIA has a
drone program. And that's a civilian agency with civilian
contractors that are not part of the military. And the law of war
doesn't apply. They don't have combatant immunity, and
collateral damage, doesn't apply absent combatant immunity. So
I'm not sure where we get the authority to sense of aliens
around the world to commit what I believe is murder. And then
finally, we have the kill list, you know, where the President,
you know, when President Obama campaigned in a rate, he talked
about how the Bush policies were based on fear, and we turned our
back on our values, and we were going to restore our reputation.
But I don't recall President Bush having a kill list that
gave him the unilateral authority to decide that an
American needs to die without trial.
Wow, hold on, step back. Step away from your speakers.
Wow,
murder.
A, if you're a drone operator, and I know a lot of you are and
you're listening to this show, think twice about that.
Yeah, and it's like, this guy is no slouch, by the way, he knows
his business. And when he said that, I went holy crap. And
nobody's talking about it. Nobody's even mentioning this
possibility. I think
there is. Because I do know some people who are involved, of
course, you know, some of our producers are involved in in the
drone program, as civilians. And I think there is a knowledge of
this, but you know, once you get your kind of your, your
credentials, and you get the, you know, your classification
and because, you know, they do hand that out, you know, the the
the the Pentagon can essentially give you classification, that
you can look at top secret stuff, and I think if you're
doing some drone killings, you're you're probably have
that. And so people kind of forget, you know, they feel like
oh, well, whatever, you know, hey,
but wow.
Yeah, and you never know. I mean, the funny thing is about
this sort of thing is like the Nazis felt a certain way when
they were debating orders during World War I loved before they
loved Hitler, and they loved Hitler. It's like, you know,
this thing's like this can turn around and next thing you know,
you're standing trial for murder. I have two words for
you.
Predator drones.
He loves them. Now there's there's got another kind of a
standalone clip, I'll get out of the way, which I thought was
interesting, because it's kind of a that apparently fear
tactics in Israel are being employed. But there's kind of a
guide this kind of a gotcha to this story, which I'll discuss
after the thing plays but but but this is a this came from my
believe, though, that this is Russia today. So they're, you
know, they exaggerate for the benefit of the Russians.
Of course, it was a chance for Tel Aviv to test its Iron Dome
missile defense system. But Israelis are anxious, in part
because of widespread media coverage of just how unprepared
for war their country is. Many bomb shelters in residential
buildings are rundown and neglected, or have become
furniture storage rooms. While most of Israel's Arab citizens,
about 20% of the population lack shelters altogether, as the
chances of war start looking or too real. The army says four
times as many Israelis are collecting state funded gas
masks than they were several months ago.
I'm a big concern. It's not like I think they're going to be
aware but just subside my fear, just in case
and with impending doomsday predictions, soaking the
country. No one wants to be caught unprepared.
All right. So that's a kind of an interesting story. But let me
ask you a rhetorical question. Okay, if all of a sudden they
set up shop in Austin, and we're giving away state funded gas
masks, giving them one. Hell yeah,
I get two things are cool. Yeah, I'd be testing it out. And I'd
be doing all kinds of field testing. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah. Everybody wants a gas. Yes. So what? Yeah,
please. Meanwhile,
Russia today, it has this little they do a bit there, which is
getting more annoying, the more I see it, because there's this
little dweeb ish woman with it with a microphone and the tag
around the microphone says the resident doesn't say Russia
today then have the RT Oh, really? You know, a little bit.
Wait. Yeah, it's my cube. Now my cube right little cube under.
And so they and she's walking around and she asked his
questions. She's talking to people about getting out of
Afghanistan. And whether it's a money grab, what's a good idea?
Bad idea. So she interviews a couple of people. Then she
writes to the second guy who's a soldier, I guess? She goes into
this diatribe, which is just Russia today, given us the
needle as best it can. It's getting a little obvious.
Don't think it's might be money and imperialism a little bit
too. I don't believe that it is imperialism. No. And what about
money? Do you think that money might drive some of our reasons
for
of course, but money is going to help everybody?
I don't think it's happening. I just came back from Afghanistan.
So
so you don't believe that he's really going to pull the chips
away?
Not entirely. I think that I think that there are presence
there is important. And as far as sustaining what we've done so
far,
the bottom line is we're so used to having US troops all over the
world up into everyone's business that we probably can't
imagine a pulling out of anywhere. And that makes
Americans the world's bullies. We like it or not,
no, first of all, little twerp you took from Russia today.
That's who we are. And
we love it. proud of me got the biggest we're proud of being
the bullies of the world. Okay, that's what we do. Of course,
you know, we don't have the, the gas hooked up to to Europe to
the frick with every different everybody like Putin, you know,
and go in and kill everybody. And, you know, it's like, oh,
yeah, we need to lead a pipeline through with Poland. I know.
Let's kill the entire government in a plane crash. Come on, come
on. At least we're out there with our uniforms. You can see
us coming.
Okay, we don't pull crap. I mean, killing the whole
government of Poland, which is what they did. Yeah. Come on.
It's unconscionable. Come on,
come on. I didn't know
if I can switch gears yesterday, John was the third anniversary
third anniversary of the earthquake in Haiti.
And yes, in fact, I was I wished I saw a lot of stuff on this. I
almost got some clips. I do. I have no clips, but you have
them, obviously. And there was all kinds of stuff going on. Oh,
yeah.
Bill Clinton was in Haiti, and everyone's like, Oh, yes. Do
Clinton visit Haiti on the third anniversary? And you know, it's
like, Oh, okay. So if you have not been listening to this
program for the past three years, then you will have missed
the fact that pretty much Well, first of all, the day after I
said, this whole earthquake thing was set up, and it was
earthquake machine. You can believe me or not. But we have
been tracking the billions of dollars that went absolutely
everywhere, except to people in Haiti who were still eating dirt
cakes. You know, they they put in a musician as the president
after they, they they kicked out his bandmate because he wasn't
because he his britches grew too big for him. They've given away
all the mining concessions up there at the north, we had 243
presidents going,
we just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets
or water. Just send your cash and
the entire amount that those two shenanigan bozos collected,
according to their recently closed fund was $54 million.
Please. So insulting, we do have some countries like Canada is
now saying, hey, you know, we're shutting it down, because we
don't know what's going on. And I read these reports. And here,
here's the here's the meme that is used. Here's the word. It's
like, well, there was a lot of money that came in. And they had
all these NGOs, which stands for non governmental organization.
And this is this is where it always happens. And because the
money comes down from places like the Red Cross, who then
they skim all that crap off the top first they got to have their
big buildings and their big salaries, and they have big
buildings of big salaries and nice staff cars. Then they're
going to dole out the money to other NGOs, which are always
classified as well intended. That was well intended. Well,
you know what NGOs? We this this crap has got to stop all of
these. It's like the Robin Hood Foundation for Sandy. They had
the party the big the big Celebrity concert. They're now
taking that money, they got hedge funds with the money, and
then they're gonna give it to other NGOs. It never actually
reaches the people at the bottom. This is what's so
disgusting. There's still 280,000 people in Haiti who are
eating dirt, cakes and are pooping cholera. So Jonathan
Katz wrote a book. And he's a total scam artist himself, as
you'll hear in this little piece from the BBC. And he he assesses
the situation in this little kind of like beautiful montage
video. And then of course, he goes straight into all kinds of
bull crap about the billions of dollars that are just stolen,
stolen, I tell you stolen, and you sat down, you texted your
$10 and watch the concert and felt great, and then went to bed
and your warm bed and thought you would solve something and
change your Twitter icon, you stupid losers. So here is the
BBC report of what actually happened? Well, we've been
saying for three years, and then unfortunately, it goes into the
total New World Order crap, it always does.
The Frank answer is that it hasn't gone well. There was a
feeling after the earthquake, that a lot of help was coming. A
lot of it was very visible militaries, planes filling the
sky boats filling the harbor,
by the way, a lot of that money went to the military operations,
repairs on ships were paid out of that money. Every single day
that one aircraft carrier was out off of the coast of Haiti,
it was like $80 million, that they were charging to the
charities to pay for that, for that carrier being there.
Trucks appearing in the street carrying all kinds of aid, the
phrase that Bill Clinton used was to build back better. And
it's very obvious to anybody who's on the ground in Haiti
right now, not just Haitian that that didn't happen. There's
barely been any building back. What has been built back
certainly isn't better. And frankly, the lives of most
people are, are harder than they were before. All evidence shows
that the cholera epidemic was brought to Haiti by United
Nations peacekeepers after the earthquake, one of the major
goals that the responders set for themselves, and one of the
major justifications for the response was to prevent the
outbreak of disease. So the irony is that after all of this
noise and all of this panic about a coming epidemic, the
epidemic that was feared was actually caused by the
responders themselves, and had absolutely no relation to the
earthquake whatsoever. So one of the major themes of the book is
really this question of awesome them. And that no matter how
hard we try, we often end up reducing conversations about
Haiti and the international community and Haiti to a
question of awesomeness. And Haitians can often do the same
thing. And it's a really disruptive way of thinking
alright, so this is goes into more bullcrap New World Order
stuff, but let me just tell you one quick thing before I wrap
this up about Haiti because we're going to do it again next
year. You know, now there are hotels built a huge Marriott
funded by the idiot douchebag from Ireland. Did you sell the
owner there? He sues people for even saying that he's an idiot
douche bag. So you're an idiot. Douchebag you Irish? Did you
sell douche bag building Marriott Hotels, Bill Clinton
building hotels, cruise ships are dropping off tourists. And
the hotel was built that you don't see actual porta Prince
tent camps. The whole thing is just completely disgusting. But
Haiti was actually a free country. They had freed
themselves from the tyranny of France and they had a debt. And
this debt partially was paid back from the money that you
sent to help these poor people who were living in in dirt. It
went to France
a so that guy that you clipped i He was also on the world. And if
you go the world.org, you can listen to that clip at the very
end of the clip. I was going to clip this for the show, but I
had too many clips already. At the very end of the clip, they
said, Well, we're going to have a special dig we're going to
continue this on the website and he's going to discuss where all
the money went with a coward some sort of accounting never
appeared Never. No, of course not.
These are selling a book. Yeah. book tour. And memory. I'm
there's two things I mentioned on the last show one, Mali. No
sooner had I said watch out for Molly, then the French are now
bombing terrorists in Mali. You seen this?
Yeah. Well, we've been following the Mali thing. Yep.
And I also said Be on the lookout for this women drinking
thing and binge drinking thing. And our one Pakistani producer
While you know how you know how they are, sent me a scan it's in
the show notes of a newspaper in Pakistan and here it is page 20
Don't miss binge drinking is a growing problem amongst Indian
women not only in the metros but in smaller towns as well.
Starting January 13 991 Foreigners all recovering
alcoholics will tour the country teaching their Indian
counterparts to step back before tipping over to there is
something going on with this with this women. Women getting
drunk stuff.
Yeah, the WB RC station says report more women binge drinking
than men and kicked etc. Go to Capitol Gazette. The CDC says
binge drinking can be worse for women. Of course we did that
last show. Yep. Oh, here's
here's one that showed up today. I think this is the national
Oh is real. Lady Gaga lighting up a joint onstage in Amsterdam.
Singer Lana Del Rey sharing one in her video born to die.
Rihanna posting suggestive pictures on Twitter. A lot of
young celebrities and a lot of them women aren't just using hot
they're publicizing it
louder than women celebrate ease. There's something about
it. There's something there's something something
that we'll figure it out. Eventually we will
eventually we probably will figure it out before anybody
else does.
And so amidst all of this a report, the Scotland Yard
released a report about Jimmy Savile. Of course no one paid
any attention to it. It was so so funny. So the report the
details, I think like over 250 complaints that they've now
recently ignored 250. And let me just play Let me just play the
clip for you because it's it's hilarious, because I want you to
remember the guy received a papal knighthood from the Pope.
He received a knighthood from the queen. He was best buddies
with Margaret Thatcher and her husband. You know, at a certain
point, you've got to think was this guy maybe just arranging
the goods for all of the pedophiles of the UK? I mean,
come on the Catholic Church. We know it we know what's been
going on there. But what no one gets it. How many people do you
know I've had a papal knighthood who are also a celebrity.
I don't know anyone who's got a papal knighthood.
Exactly. You know, this guy was in the upper echelon of all
elites. You're hanging out with Prince Charles. There has to be
a I'm telling you they eat
your basic there but play the clip. According
to the report by London's Metropolitan Police and a child
protection charity. Savile used his celebrity status to hide in
plain sight. Police say they are aware of 214 criminal offences
recorded against him. Several was never brought to justice and
his victims have been left looking for some kind of
resolution CNNs Matthew Chance has been hearing all the details
of the investigation. He joins us now from police headquarters
Scotland Yard. Matthew, what more does that report reveal?
Well, it reveals quite a lot one of the one of the issues you
just brought up is of course that Jimmy Savile is dead, there
isn't going to be a criminal prosecution against them. And
And this report I've got in my hand here called giving victims
of voice is an attempt by the police here in London that have
been leading this investigation into the goings on of Jimmy
Savile say that it's their attempt to try and at least get
them on in document form. All of these testimonies that they've
received over this period of more than 50 years from 1955 to
2009. They've been hearing evidence from people who say
they were abused during that period. 450 complaints in total
so far made against Jimmy Savile. 214 of them, as you
mentioned, have been recorded as actual abuses amongst those 214
is included 34 instances of rape the victims is also quite
astonishing between eight years old and 47 years old
copy of the report in the show notes go have a look at that.
It's crazy. But oh, well at least we have a record worked by
scotland yard
police we have a report.
Bunch of a holes yeah, there's
all kinds of vas. Yeah, well, okay. You clearly shut me down.
You know, I'm going to talk about anymore. I get it. You
make you it gets boring. I know. I know. It gets boring
reoccupied. I'm like this.
President Obama paid a visit to a clinic at the Pentagon this
weekend. But don't worry, it wasn't for case of the flu. The
White House tells us that it was just a quote routine fitness
evaluation the results of which will be released by the end of
the month. The President's last exam in 2011 found a longtime
smoker to be tobacco free and consuming a healthy diet.
Yeah, interestingly enough I checked the last time he went to
have a checkup he didn't go to the Pentagon. What did they have
to put new batteries in them or something? I
put new batteries in and that's exactly the same thing. I was
thinking you'd beat me to it. It makes no
sense. No president has ever gone to the Pentagon for his
checkup.
Well, they do if he's a lizard
I'm sorry, I have FBA. You can't laugh at it. What is that
called? Again? You can't even remember it was F A B FBA and
things go and that by the way
that is going nowhere.
Someone one of our producers wrote and said that you know,
the cure for that is actually cough medicine that that die
methylene Tripta, Waka, Waka Flocka whatever it was,
admits the bromide thing or whatever it is they put in
dimethyl the I can't remember the name. Yeah, so whatever that
was, oh, Dean substitute.
Yeah, it's basically just drinking some coffee cough syrup
for this. I mean, it's a crazy, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna
pull it up right now. It's a crazy thing. And it's FDA
approved.
Well, yeah. Di methylene bromide, is that what it is?
I think that's what it was. Let me see. shownotes I got it here
at home on
PBA or
pseudobulbar. affect? bulbar pseudobulbar affect that's what
it was. And you got to look it up again if you want to see what
the but anyway, the the cure being sold by that guy, Dr.
Fellas, Dr. Jonathan fellas is nothing more than cough
medicine. And we fell for it.
Well, we did okay, well, I think we're done you had did you not
have an industry we can push those off to another show. It's
because it's kind of a concise trio and I and to be honest
about my end of show clip is like so weird. If you want to, I
think we're done. I think we got I think
we're done and we can keep it we would you know, I will be here
on Thursday. How about you?
I intend to be here producing nothing but this thing and being
on the show that you produce
producing nothing. He produces nothing
exhibit I will be actually produced from my own website,
but I will be here with C span clips in tow. Yep. The Kennedy
clips which I were just gonna save which is blue guy came out
with a book on Joseph Kennedy. There was a great, great lot of
great material. He gave a great speech on book TV on C span.
I've watched the whole thing is very interesting. Nice. And
probably catch a few more things in the meantime.
Okey dokey.
very educational.
Well,
I shall be doing the same. And probably reading some
legislation which is always fun.
And let's let you try to dig up that 1972 treaty by well
that's a good idea. And I will also make it rain in California.
Coming to you from Tejas, Austin, Texas in the morning.
I'm Adam curry. Oh, it
looks like it's gonna rain there. I'm from Northern silicon
Bay, northern Silicon Valley. I'm John see Make It Rain
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