I don't know about your flag, but I wouldn't mind seeing your
pole. Adam curry,
John C. Dvorak and Sunday October 14 2012. Time if you're
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gloomy. I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg Levin Buzzkill.
You sound great.
Well, for as long as it lasts, just don't haven't watched any
videos. Hey,
you gotta be using Chrome.
Did you see the Michael Dunn piece?
Who was Michael Dunn Alright, if you were if you if you're not
listening live to the show. You have no idea why we think this
is so hilarious. But no, I did not watch them. Michael, who was
Michael Dunn.
Not go to your Twitter feed. You get your Twitter open? Because
you tweeted. Yeah. And it should be an add random curry. Michael
Dunn. I made this. I know you'll both appreciate it. Yeah, and I
saw that. Pretty. His his image? Yeah, it's pretty good.
It's great. Yeah. But did he put it on the Art Generator?
Well, I don't think it actually would fit as a logo. Maybe?
You never know if people sometimes art no agenda art
generator.com.
should probably take a look at that. No, no, it's not. It's
probably not listening anyway. So.
Yeah, true. So we're on the on the mumble today to see how that
works. See if we get any better. Better vibe than than Skype. So
this is a test. So far. So good. We are exactly two minutes into
the show. That's great.
Yeah, in 10 minutes late. So any news this week? I think there's
a few distractions that when we get to know there's any real
news,
I have a question for you right off the bat. This something is
really been bugging me. And this is this. This is a call back
really to the to the presidential the first
presidential debate. Of course, we had the vice presidential
debate on Thursday evening. We might talk about that a little
bit. But I'm seeing one thing. And again, I know a lot of
really smart people who are Republicans I know a lot of
smart people who are who are Democrats that are that are very
diehard and the Democrat the people I know who are Democrats,
there's there's something that's really been bugging me they are
using this 15 second clip from the presidential debates and
I'll tell you what, what people are saying about this now I want
to get your take on it
not the case. Look, I got five boys. I'm used to people saying
something that's not always true, but just keep on repeating
it and ultimately hoping I'll believe it but that that is not
the case. All right. I will not reduce the taxes paid by
so that clip people are saying he called the president boy to
his face okay, so saying that this would Romney said here was
racial was a racial attack on the President was a racial
attack. Why? Cuz he's like, because it's worse the
connection between that and racism, because of the words.
He's the equivalent of five young white boy,
I'm telling you, this is this is a total meme. And some really,
really soon this
meme at all? Are
you kidding me? No. I mean, you know, you know, you know what
really made
me get into Texas, but I have
no, not at all. Not at all. This is everywhere. In fact, I'll
tell you what, this is the one that pissed me off this morning.
I will read this to you. And then you tell me who wrote this
blog post he called the president boy.
From the boy thing, yes. I have five boys. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my
God, listen to this hitting. So I'm
gonna read this. And I've seen I've been seeing this ever since
the debate and then showed up this morning on someone's blog
and like, okay, now I have to say something because this
person is not dumb. All right. Here's the blog post. He called
the president boy. just tuned in to a little of the Sunday
Morning News Discussion on various networks. The big issue
seems to be whether or not VP Biden was disrespectful of
Congressman Ryan in the Wednesday debate. Yes, he was.
But I haven't forgotten what Mitt Romney said to President
Obama. He said the president is like a boy who doesn't tell the
truth. Quote, look, I've got five boys. I'm used to people
saying that's not always true, but just keep on repeating until
ultimately hoping I'll believe it. He called the president boy
to his face with 70 million witnesses. Watch the video a few
times. I think this is far more outrageous than anything you
said at the 47% Dinner in May. So this person is literally
saying that this this 15 second clip not
the case. Like I got five boys. I'm used to people saying
something that's not always true but just keep on repeating it
and ultimately hoping I'll believe it but that that is not
the case. All right,
the dad is a racial slur. You can Google this John you can
Google and see how many people think that this is a racial slur
that it was a smart, a really smart, subtle nose and
tricky tricky slur. Yeah, who was he gay snuck in the word,
boys. Was it a boy it was boys.
So who do you think wrote that blog post?
Well, it would have to be some aihole Dave Winer. Oh you're
kidding he's got he's not dumb He's a very smart guy. He's a
huge Obama bato
no kidding but the people who say this have been programmed
programmed this is this is this is actual mind control at work.
Anyway, okay, so I'm not crazy right? Because I you know, I
don't I don't like either of these douchebags. But I'm not
crazy when I hear that I'm not I'm not thinking. You said boys.
He called him a boy to his face.
Forget your reference to douchebags is Romney and Obama
not whiner?
No, no, exactly wrong. Get
out creative. Douchebag
didn't add up. Thank you. But this is this is some form of
mind control. And if you Google this, you'll see that lots of
people tune into this and the only thing I can say is if you
think this when you hear that sentence, you gotta be a racist
yourself.
Oh, no, you're a huge racist.
There's no no two ways about it. Then you're thinking about the
damage. The
Democrats are very racist. I mean, let's face it. If did you
go take a look at Palo Alto there's they got the whole area
that oh, we're all the blacks live there across the freeway in
East Palo Alto live in by themselves and they don't like
him getting over crossed. Don't go across the freeways. Tracks
stay there to track dogs across lives across the tracks.
And the funny thing is, I think a lot of Europeans don't even
know that calling someone boy is racial. This is
really in effect the whole boy, I think most people don't even I
think most modern Americans don't know the reference that
references way old. Yeah.
Where's it from? From the
40s or the 50s? Or something? I have no idea. It's way oh, let
me nobody. You know, I think few people it's like the references
to watermelon and fried chicken. That that Richard Pryor used to
always like to make because it was like to continue the that's
more or less gone away.
Yeah. So I know you didn't Google it. But I'm seeing 100
and 18 million results for Romney calling Obama boy. Yeah,
Obama is like, Yeah, I'm telling you, I'm telling. And then an
Romney, of course, compared him to a petulant child. So that's
also a boy reference. I'm telling you did Romney call
Obama a boy? Romney calls Obama Boy, oh, my goodness, people get
a frickin grip. Anyway, so that's, that's the state of mind
controlled America, ladies and gentlemen. And good one, and I
was thinking of posting
a clip of the day if there was a clip.
Well, have you heard the clip? It's just it's it's not a big
deal. The thing is, you know, I saw this on wine whiners blog
this morning, and I started writing a blog post or a
comment, like, No, this is a mistake. This is a mistake. i
This is not my form. I should not be writing a response to
this. I've got to ask John if I'm crazy first. So I'm not
obviously
Oh, that's kind of criminal I think to be honest about it.
That kind of analysis. That Weiner would have made an error
or anybody else anybody anybody would make the assumption that
somebody i Hey, yeah, but do you have any kids? Yeah, I got two
boys. Race races calling Obama boy. I don't have a boy named
Obama. It's just
isn't making me crazy is making me crazy when I hear this.
So first of all, let me just say John, John, in the morning to
you my friend
in the morning, do you Adam curry in the morning all ships
at sea boots on the ground subs in the water feet in the air and
to all our knights out there who have continued to support the
show in the best way possible.
Yes, indeed. And to Martin JJ who brought us our art on the
previous that was wrong
with our other artists had Martin JJ is kicking everybody's
behind.
I mean, it's not like
you spent a lot of time by the way, after every single show.
Going over the art we do and we debated and then in fact, and I
don't want to make it sound as though we're trying to you know
even things out a little bit but I don't care. But Adam is likes
to see other artists get their names up there. But after long
discussions, Dziedzic wins again and again.
And it's just the combination. You know, it's just the
combination. In fact, it's hard to explain. It's hard to
explain. But if anything, we have the debate and like, man,
we again, I mean, we gotta give someone else a shot, but it's
just the best stuff. So keep going at it people and always
check out all of the art we have
an art clip from for the newsletter true usually was the
ones that came in second.
And I do want to say in the morning to all of the human
resources in the chat room, no agenda stream.com, no agenda
chat.net, who were always there to keep us on the straight and
narrow and to piss me off from time to time, which is sometimes
challenging. So of course, I did watch the the vice presidential
debate. And I have a few comments. I don't know,
to take, I had to take a couple of cups of hard coffee to keep
stay awake. And then Biden, of course, now the big deal is
whether but you know, there's two sides. This is amazing how
this is why really seriously, voting third party is the way to
go. Yeah, because that way, you don't have to deal with this
crap. I ran into somebody that day said Yeah, well, you voted
for I voted for Gary Johnson. Oh, you're gonna waste your
vote.
Oh, really? The old waste your vote?
Waste your vote? Oh, you're wasting everything. Oh, really?
I'm gonna waste my vote. If I vote for Obama, I'm gonna waste
my vote. If I vote for Romney then then who wasn't? any
different? I don't care about those two guys. I shouldn't vote
for either one.
Call this person out. Who was this? I'm not gonna do you know.
So we've discussed multiple times, that the other candidates
are not invited into the debate. And this, of course, debate the
corrupt debates that only have two parties of the while there's
at least 15 that we've discussed, however, John King,
Don King, Don Lemon to the rescue, John, CNN steps up to
the plate for us.
So you've seen Obama versus Romney and Biden versus Ryan
tonight, though, a presidential debate you won't see anywhere
else. two presidential candidates not afraid to speak
their minds about the issues that matter most to now
I'm getting excited and like, oh my god, they're going to do a
presidential debate between two other candidates. This is huge
Sherry
Johnson, Libertarian Party nominee and Jill Stein,
I'm like, we're gonna have the stage, we're gonna have the
audience. We're gonna have Don Lemon as moderator and I'm
getting moist, just thinking about it Green Party nominee.
They weren't allowed in the official debates. So we brought
them here so they could add their voices to the national
discussion.
Now, John, can you can you understand my excitement at this
point? And I just, I'm, like, Oh, my God, barely were
suckered go, we're gonna cover a lot of topics from the economy
to social issues. But as third even fourth party candidates, I
decided to start with the obvious question, though. Why
are you running?
I'm running as a mother and now they edit to a Skype
conversation. She's, she's on Skype. And Gary Johnson, doctor,
he's like, in some other room, they have a try screen out. This
is not a debate. And I've been inactive and just listened to
Jill Stein for a moment really, people listened because she's no
good political medicine, because listen, we got to fix this one,
in order to fix everything else that ails us. But what propelled
me into this race was when the President put Medicare and
Social Security on the chopping block as the solution to the
debt ceiling crisis a year ago. So I'm basically in this to
ensure that everyday people have a voice in this election and a
choice at the polls. That's not bought and paid for by Wall
Street. This is like raw, You're so boring, Jill Stein, you have
no platform you all you're doing is, well, I don't like what
they're doing. You have no message and to ensure that we
can put forward the solutions American people are clamoring
for now let's listen to Gary Johnson.
That was a little bit longer than 30 seconds. I didn't give
you the time. But let's do well. Gary, we'll give him a minute or
so to do it. But
if you've got you're ready, John, because, you know, I'm
still on the fence between Roseanne Barr and Gary Johnson.
Yeah, but I think Gary Johnson clinches it with with this
performance in his CNN third party debate
30 seconds Gary so why do you feel you'd be best suited to to
run the country and why are you running?
Well, I wouldn't be doing this if I didn't think I could do a
really good job at being president united states been an
entrepreneur my entire life to term governor of New Mexico I
think very successfully at that and the differences between
myself and other candidates look Let's not buy my ran let's get
out of Afghanistan now bring the troops home. I think that
marriage equality is a constitutionally guaranteed
right let's end the drug wars. Let's legalize marijuana now. I
would have never signed the National Defense Authorization
Act, I would repeal the Patriot Act. I think that we need to
balance the federal budget now or we're going to find ourselves
in a monetary collapse and let's abolish the IRS and eliminate
income tax and corporate tax will reboot the American
economy. 10s of millions of jobs get created in a zero corporate
tax rate. Environment. How good is that guy?
Just you don't want him up there debate and the only
thing the only thing he didn't say was hookers and blow for
everybody. I mean, that's the only thing I was missing. A
guy's great.
Well, so all the good it does. Right
now. But good. How funny would it be though, if you had that
debate, if you had like Biden, Joe Biden, or? Or was Obama and
Obama, Obama or Romney against Gary Johnson, it would be like
no contest. Because he only
didn't know he would wait, he would wipe the room with those
two guys. Those two guys are stooges. They're stooges for the
military industrial complex. It's so apparent. Yeah, they're
good. They didn't do anything. I mean, Obama is just essentially,
like somebody said to me, so we're gonna vote for in the 2008
election, say, I think I'm gonna vote for McCain don't vote for
McCain, because we vote for McCain. These wars are going to
drag on they're never going to repeal the Patriot Act, the
economy is probably going to get worse and worse. And I said,
Well, maybe it turns out, he was right. Yes. for McCain. The
economy got worse. I know. It's an old joke.
So the only thing? Well, there's a couple things. Biden had a big
fat lie. A BIG BIG LIE that I was surprised that I have not
heard one. He had a bunch of bull crap in there. Well, I but
there was like a really big one. Which one you think well listen
to this audio talk
about this great recession if it fell out of the sky, like Oh, my
goodness, where did it come from? It came from this man
voting to put two wars in a credit card to at the same time
put a prescription drug benefit of the credit card, a trillion
dollar tax cut for very wealthy I was there. I voted against
them. I said, No, we can't afford that.
Now. Did I hear him just say that he voted against the wars,
the two wars that we put on the credit card? Is that what I
heard him say, John, is what he said, Okay, let me just say,
wait, wait, wait, if you parse it, if you parse it carefully.
It may be that he really said he voted against the one thing that
he said at the end of his little list now,
but he says he says I voted against them. So that
voted against it. They talk about
this great recession if it fell out of the sky, like Oh, my
goodness, where did it come from? It came from this man
voting to put two wars in a credit card to at the same time
put a prescription drug benefit of the credit card a trillion
dollar tax cut for very wealthy I was there. I voted against
them. I said that we can't afford that. I voted
against them. Yeah, big. Okay. Well, just wanted to point out
that on joint resolution 23, September 14 2001. Joe Biden
voted yay. And on the Iraqi vote, Joe Biden voted Yay. So
unless I misunderstood, which is possible, but it sure sounded to
me. Like he was saying, I was there my friends.
I was there. I voted against I voted against it.
Well, he voted for them. So yeah,
it's a lie. Well, he also apparently Rupert Murdoch took
him to test on his Twitter feed, which I actually now believe
he's actually writing. Okay, because he got nothing else to
do. He says his bullcrap he says Obama and Netanyahu aren't the
best of friends is though Biden made it chatting all the time.
In fact, they're drinking together.
They're on Facebook, the Facebook friends chatting it up.
They're on mumble I hear. Okay, so So there were some really, I
mean, I lost the kind of interest in watching one. When
these guys they don't even understand the basic principles
of what their jobs are or what their their boss's jobs are.
Here's the question came to Ryan and
waited for Russia to give us the green light at the UN Russia do
something but they're still arming the man. Iran is flying
flights over Iraq, and the
opposite is being armed to help Bashar Assad.
And by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that
the Vice President said he would bet his vice presidency on in
Iraq, we probably would have been able to prevent that. But
he failed to achieve that as well.
Let me ask you the question, what's your criteria for
intervention? Okay, so the question is, what is your
criteria for an intervention in Syria? There is only one but
we'll listen to what Ryan says
in Syria. Worldwide, what is in the national interests of the
American people?
Wrong? I'm sorry, that is wrong. That is only if Congress votes
to go to war. There's no other criteria. The people The people,
not you douchey only the people can do that. Now let's listen to
a very egregious statement by Joe Biden. What would you say to
that American hero about this campaign? And at the end of the
day, are you ever embarrassed by the tone? Vice President Biden.
I would say to him the same thing I say to my son who did
serve a year in Iraq, that we only have one truly sacred
obligation,
only one truly sacred obligation as a government, as a
government.
That's to clip those we send into harm's way and care for
those who come home.
Now. I'm sorry, that is wrong. That should be to defend the
Constitution. That is the only sacred thing you have you
douche. These, these things really get me when I hear them
say this. How can you how can you do this? How can you do
these things? This is just it's so natural. I
think the Constitution is being marginalized on a daily basis,
so we can just get rid of it.
But I did learn something. And I'm surprised that well, maybe,
I mean, I learned what the fighting season is all about.
And the fighting seas Yes.
illustrate the issue here. Because I think this can be a
little confusing. We've all met with General Allen and general
scrapper karate in Afghanistan to talk about fighting seasons,
here's the way it works.
We're gonna get an explanation. Oh, I'm
just filling with snow. The Taliban and the terrorists in
the economy and the kid Assura come over from Pakistan to fight
our men and women. When it fills in with snow, they can't do it.
That's what we call fighting seasons. In the warm months.
Fighting gets really high. In the winter, it goes down. And so
when Admiral Mullen and General Petraeus came to Congress and
said, if you pull these people out before the fighting season
is end, it puts people more like that
grammar. If you pull these people out before the fighting
season is end, you can say over or has ended, but fighting
season is end is something's wrong with your programming
search risk.
That's the problem. Yes, we drew 22,000 troops down last month.
But the remaining troops that are there who still have the
same mission to prosecute counterinsurgency are doing it
with fewer people. That makes them less
now here's where it got really interesting. Not a mission to
prosecute. Oh, yeah. The wording is beautiful, is beautiful. It's
got a weird way of saying things. Well, some of us just
grammatically incorrect. But now they get into a little tit for
tat, which had me thinking about something.
We're sending fewer people out in all these hotspots to do the
same job they were supposed to do a month ago because we took
22,000 people out,
turned them over to the Afghan troops we trained. No one got
pulled out that didn't get filled in by train Afghan
personnel. And he's confused. He's He's conflating two issues.
The fighting season that Petraeus was talking about,
is that correct? conflating as it Yeah. Is it like isn't a
configuration or conflating? I never heard the word conflate.
I've used it right. Let's look it up. Yes, this
is a very good idea. What does conflate mean? conflates,
definition conflate to combine? No, that's actually a very good,
very good use of the word. to conflate to combine them Okay,
now we'll take Yeah, they did. Well, yes.
We will take that as a correct answer.
Former and Admiral Mullen was the fighting season this spring.
When he was talking about we did not we did not pull them out.
The calendar works the same every year. It does work
the same every year. Summer fall.
It's warm or it's not so I when I heard that. I thought we just
spring summer have a
long way to go for a joke.
Wow. Yeah.
So that was just the worst debate ever. It was it was
really Oh, Biden's yucking it up and I'm surprised you know, all
of all Ryan had to do was stop and look at him while he was
mugging and say to him.
What are you doing? What do you what do you do? What's wrong
with your face?
I mean, why didn't he call him out and just stop and say
something like, are you done yet? I mean, he could have
called him out as a little kid. Yeah, by just stopping and
looking at him because he just had to see him because their way
their table was set up. You had to see him rolling his eyes and
given that big dumb smile and laughing Oh, yeah. All the rest
of it, but he didn't do anything. He's just such a
weenie. Yeah.
Well, and it's interesting. If it was, I think crowd crowd
Heimer Krauthammer. He said this, you wouldn't hear you
would interpret this debate one way if you only read the
transcript, you would interpret it another way. If you if you if
you heard on on radio, because of course you wouldn't see Joe
Biden making all the grimacing faces and laughing and yucking
it up. And on television Of course, it was very, I thought
it I found it to be very uncomfortable. You know, it's
one thing if you think somebody's lying, it's another
thing to just, you know, keep smiling about it is
creepy. just creepy. No, it's totally creepy. Guy's creepy.
But lot Lawrence O'Donnell. He's on the lean forward. Obama
channel. Yeah, MSN do.
Ms. Ms. DNC,
Ms. MSN, MSNBC, Obama channel. He has he has an idea. He knows
how to fix all of this. He thinks we should change the
rules of the debate.
The debates now put candidates through ridiculous memorization
tests, tests that have nothing to do with the job of being
President.
What a memorization test really, really is. Maybe your guy is on
a memorization trip,
there will always be staff present to remind the President
or brief the President on whatever he or she needs to
remember or know more to change his batteries, which is why to
return to the protocol of Senators debating in the Senate
chamber, each candidate should be allowed at least one staff
member to sit beside the candidate throughout the debate.
Oh, crazy. But your lawyer whispered, is not even slightly
distracting to Senate debates to have a silent staff member
sitting beside the senator, as you see, every day on C span.
Oh, handing the senator a document that will support what
the Senator is about to say I used to be one of those people
in the staff chair on the Senate floor or in hearings. And
this is this is nuts. And I'm telling you that this is they're
really considering making this change. Because Oh, you know,
you can't have somebody remember, hey, why don't you
just give the guy his teleprompter? Just put
teleprompter? That'd be great. Who needs it?
Wait a minute. Did you suggesting that What did
everyone do what Bush did in the last debate and have that thing
and his transmitter the transmitter exactly why he goes
in first out
what he wants. And Obama, you said that he might have had one
in his lat in the last debate he wants, he wants to wish he would
have made sense. That's why I had to keep looking down so I
could listen to the guy. Like Hold
on a sec. I can't I can't hear you. He Larry here suggests even
more
friends of mine, who were watching on C span didn't even
notice me. That's how invisible staff can be in government, but
they are absolutely essential in government. The President is
never alone with a decision. And you would never want him to be.
What is
this? This guy's on drugs. And he's not sharing, and he's not
sharing his drugs. It's just nuts. Meanwhile, of course, Joe
Biden really made a big mistake. And yet, and his biggest mistake
was throwing it Hillary Clinton under the bus.
You may or may.
I'm subscribing to the notion I think you might be too which is
that Hillary is trying to derail the the Obama reelection. So she
has a better shot at 2016. And so I think they're becoming
aware of this.
And they're fighting back. Yeah. So this is from the the press,
of course, is completely complicit in this and they know
their role. This was spokes whole Carney trying to defend
his man versus the press saying, Well, you know, how could How
could Biden say that they didn't know, more security had been
requested, even though he knew that security had been
requested, when he did the debate, because that had already
been out in testimony in that four hour testimony, but he's
still saying that we didn't know we didn't know and Kearney is
basically saying it's Clinton's job.
Wanted to ask you about Libya and the Vice President's
response yesterday in the debate, Martha Raddatz mentioned
to him the US officials and Lydia had asked for more
security there and the Vice President replied, Well, we
weren't told they wanted more security there. We did not know
they wanted more security again. That That wasn't the testimony
at the oversight hearing. On Wednesday, though, Charlene Lam
conceded that she had refused requests for more security. So
I'm wondering, what what did the vice president mean that what
did he mean by Wait? Did he mean the administration did He mean
the White House they
are speaking directly for himself and for the President he
meant the White House now. Okay. Just want to make sure we
understand that. He was just I don't hear anything. We don't
know anything. We just sit up here in a little white house.
Yeah, we didn't know yet those
guys talking in our ear, but I guess they don't talk loud
enough now.
That's about all I had on the debate.
I think that's enough. Yeah. Yeah, I
would agree.
It means nothing. I guess there's the next debate. What is
Tuesday?
By Tuesday is the next debate. Yep. It'll be
interesting to see how Obama does on this one.
We want to make predictions.
Well, I think we predicted pretty well that Oh, Biden was
gonna bring up the 47%. And he did. Yeah. And you made some
prediction that somebody on Twitter went crazy about saying
you're unbelievably visionary first coming up with something.
I am, I am visionary. I am visionary, I tell you I see into
the future. Well, something happened. And I'm not quite sure
if that because here's what I think is going on. We have the
Benghazi situation, of course, Benghazi gate, as we're calling
it out Benghazi gate. That is the mean, we want to put out
there. Because this, of course, would be great to have this
conversation during the next debate. So you can see the
entire move the push, like, oh, let's they were lying, they were
covering up, you know, this is this is this has got to come out
to the forefront of the of the debate on Tuesday. And the that
would be the Republican side, the Democratic side, is trying
to thwart that. And somehow someone gave the wrong message
to Al's Awapuhi now he's the he's you know, he's now the new
number one in in Al Qaeda, or is he still number two?
I don't really keep a diary. I don't subscribe to ring magazine
anymore. So I don't know where he sits in the World
Championship does scale there. But he
definitely has gotten the wrong memo.
Tonight. We're hearing from outside as leader for the first
time since September 11. In an audio posted to a website, I'm
in Oslo, aakhri. urges Muslims to wage holy war against the US
and Israel
over that, you know, no, never heard of such a thing. Don't
step on it.
Wage holy war against the US and Israel over that YouTube video
that mocked the Prophet Muhammad.
What? What? He got the wrong script. An idiot.
So you know, now now we know the guys on someone's payroll, but
someone's not communicating properly.
Yeah, they're not getting his memos around fast enough.
How dumb is that? No, dude. ixnay on the ad obey. What do
you say? And even the fact that this report says, on a site,
somewhere, nondescript, just on a site, he said, Yeah, and they
never have the, the actual video, they just have some B
roll and just tell you what they think the guy said, according to
some kind of intelligence. But haven't you know, this is this
is wrong. This is really stupid.
So the video thing is on the on the back burner. So what do you
think? I think the what's going to happen is I think the
Democrats are or maybe elderlaw. I don't think Hillary thinks
it's such a great idea, because she's going to take a lot of
heat for this, but which isn't good. But for her. I think that
anything to get the conversation off the economy. Oh, yeah. With
benefits to Democrats.
Big deal. Well. Yeah, but the Benghazi thing is is tough
because
I don't think the public cares at all. Oh, I'm
not gonna argue whether the public cares, but I think the
campaign's believe it matters. Yeah, I
think they do. But I think the wrong
what does the public care about?
They care about getting gig, you know, having a job again,
getting more money than they made last year. I mean, that's
an all the public cares about it, right. And they're not
making more money than they made last year, the year before the
year before, and they want to be able to sell and buy houses.
They can't do that the banks aren't lending money. I mean,
that those are the issues that people care about. And they
don't care about Benghazi they have, you know, you could go out
in the street right now and then interview 100 people, and I
would say 99 of them would not even know where Benghazi is. Are
you ever heard of it?
Yeah, you're probably right.
And the one guy would probably be wrong, that you had something
to say
so what So are you saying that both candidates actually want to
focus on on things other than the economy or No, no,
they were put though the Republicans are being suckered
left and right. And it was focusing on the wrong and the
Democrats just loved it. The Democrats love anything, but
talking about the economy, right. Good point. Good point.
So there'll be contrived At the same mistakes were made,
mistakes were made and won't happen again. And we got to get
good at moving our troops out of Afghanistan and 2014 and all
foreign policy in the next debate by the way is about
foreign policy which means it's going to be really bad right?
It's going to be just don't be the first debate was about
domestic policy and I what Jeremy remember the first debate
was, what was important that I don't I
don't remember anything. I don't remember every single thing they
talked about. We I don't remember
anything either.
We didn't have a huge distraction. They floated a
little trial balloon and tried to do this again,
as well. for staying with us for the next hour. We do have to
start tonight
notices the MSNBC oh wow Obama channel again
with some breaking news. We have some more details for you about
the breaking news that is just in tonight. Breaking news,
breaking news. More details on the breaking news is breaking
news, John. Oh, standby. I gotta tell you it's breaking news
broke a mad cow. What is it
about this shot this gunshot fired at the Obama campaign's
headquarters in Denver, Colorado late today. These are pictures
that we've got of the shattered window front of the Obama
campaign office, according to the reports that we have so far.
There were people inside the campaign office at the time of
this incident, which is in part what makes this a story of
national significance. Really, what
really, that was national significance because
someone was around a bullet. Hey, come to Oakland lady.
national significance.
Come to Oakland, ladies and gentlemen. Were the occupied
people rammed the Obama campaign headquarters within they busted
into place and tore it up but that barely didn't cover that.
Did they on MSN
it was not of national significance.
It seems like it was to me but no, no, I rent a stray bullet. I
think it was white supremacist.
Well, I was I think the story would have been better if
somebody put a swastika on
no swastikas are not for no we don't many Obama
campaign should you nobody was hurt this because everyone was
told the bullets come in. No, no. You
see the bullet went from the inside out.
Good. Yeah. That's the way I see
it. And they had the kind of I didn't didn't clip it, but they
had the cops on. Normally in this type of story. The cop was
like, you know, it was a nine millimeter. It was an AK 47 and
was you know, you know, getaway car, nothing of that. Just no
one got hit. That's it. That's all the cops are saying no
details. And of course, the story went nowhere. It was a
trial balloon. They've done they've done this before. We've
seen this trying to distract. That's just for the thing I'm
still waiting for Will there be another just because there's so
there's such megalomaniacs there in the White House? That they
probably want to distract from the economy and from Benghazi.
So they'll try and come up with something else to change the
story. And I think
they're gonna I don't think they I think they got a winner with
this Benghazi thing. Okay, because it's the lab let us suck
up all the all the cycles and screw it. Who cares?
Interesting, which, which could also make us think that it was
it's always been in their interest from the get go to have
this Benghazi thing happen?
Or maybe they had to get rid of that guy. I mean, like Serpico
explain the Serpico
surfer go the movie. Yeah, Serpico was a very famous police
officer who was I guess in New York, New York City, New Jersey,
I think was in New York. No, no, he was in New Jersey. And it was
Jersey cop. And he was he was like a straight he was not
corrupt. Yeah. And so he wouldn't take bribes he wouldn't
do all this stuff but it but there was a known fact that a
lot of drug dealing. All this stuff was going on. It was under
right under the police watch because they were just taking
money, but he wouldn't do it. And so one day was sent off to
some bus somewhere where he's supposed to have all this backup
and nobody showed up. As they Hey, you're on your own. Yes. So
they almost killed him to be where he lives not
your Frank Serpico lives now.
Where Amsterdam Oh, Jesse. Really? Yeah, he's
he's laying low in Amsterdam people still want to kill him.
Well, yeah, it wouldn't surprise me so anyway, so this guy may
have been in that boat and even though I still think it was a
bunch of kidnapping but it was reporting we just know that's
wrong and now so we have to just assume that you know any of
these theories that that are possibilities are probably one
of them is more likely to be correct but obviously they
didn't send them didn't send any extra help there and this whole
thing was in the dead of night I mean, no, it's fishy from the
get go so I but I think it's a great distraction for them
because it takes the public does not care
at all. We just care about eating
and Honey BooBoo.
That's a word that that has been banned from this for The clips
are okay you can say the name on a boo boo. I don't know if the
voice is kicking everyone's ass so Honey BooBoo is just as
Honey BooBoo is a reality show. They're on cable. Yeah, so the
voice isn't really competing with
Duck Dynasty is kicking Honey Boo Boos ass.
Oh, Duck Dynasty is a winner.
Yeah
Yeah Did you see that guy there? No, no,
no I don't watch it.
Oh no there's a clip they had the Duck Dynasty. I think it was
on the view or something.
Oh no, I got other things.
We had this clip. I saw it. I got the guy on the viewer. He's
a big he's Oh, somebody asked somebody. Somebody asked him
what is it that scares you? And the guy goes chlamydia
so the guy's a comedian.
Let's thank our producers before we go any further we've been
yapping way too long. Boy do we have any producers
we bet well we luckily we got identity tonight which is a big
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Sir
Okay, well it's Yeah. Ryan he's doubling down then.
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deconstruction, five years deal, nobody can can come close to
what we do. And we never had a fight. And we still we've had a
couple of fights. And we still have people that say, I know
these guys are crazy. Yeah, crazy. And all we do is read the
bills. And we tell what's in the bill that somebody else is
falling all over themselves about and we say look, here's
what it's really about. Now, how's that crazy? All you do is
a little home the homework a which is a term I don't likes.
Yeah.
Some people call it to what's the word Joe? Joe? Oh,
journalism, that's it.
Actually looking at things, you know, looking at indictments,
reading through them, watching C span seeing what people actually
say, recording what they say. And then and then calling them
on it. Finding that you know, Joe Biden says he didn't vote
for the two wars on a credit card. We did.
He did. Yeah. I got some of that stuff. I've done some government
legislation analysis today. Yeah, well, yeah, I got a doozy
for you
recently thing I came up with I was hoping to find some good
stuff with those Russians down in Houston there that were
indicted.
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I am I am receiving information on on this. Now who do we know
in the Dallas area who's Russian? Who sir Jean Neff
Tullio F.
Oh, that he didn't know he was in Dallas.
And he dude, he I don't know which agency he works for. But
he was responsible for this takedown one way or the other. I
know he was involved in it. The he's, this is what he does. And
when you if you ever meet the guy, I hope you do. You'll be
like, okay, no doubt.
Yeah, there's one it was guys your
limit? Let me let me give you a call. I get it. Now. He lives
alone with his pet Python. Are you getting? Are you getting the
picture of Sir? I'm
getting there. Okay. Yes. Is he tall? Short, then? You don't
want
to don't want to bump into him in a dark alley. Let's put it
that way. He's a sweetheart though. And don't get me wrong
total sweetheart. Just Just don't be Russian on the wrong
side of him. That would be kind of bad.
So I ran into a legal blog, export, export bull X export law
blog or something like that. The guy's like, he says, this is a
bunch of bullcrap this indictment because they're
mostly nailing is yes. Or not registering as foreign agents,
which
all spies have to do.
Yeah, but no,
right. Yeah, no, that's true. You know, in every country.
Now you look No. Now this guy explains them. I didn't.
Okay. Let me just make sure that we have an understanding here
that I have no knowledge of this. That each country has
agents and they have to register and of course they have
unregistered agents. But the idea is all your agents are
supposed to be registered. That is the general Geneva Convention
law. No. Okay. All right. I don't know what I'm talking
about. I have no family history.
Yeah, the way this if you're looking at I'd have to go find
that post. But the reason for registering is not because this
is not you're wrong.
Okay. I'm wrong. All right, I'm wrong. The whole
thing was in the 30s. When they when they came up with this
registering as a foreign agent that was propaganda. saw to
Washington DC. It wasn't for export guys. Because if you're
exporting to a foreign country, which everybody does Caterpillar
they the the way this indictment went down as it's the same as
if, okay if he has to be if they have to register as foreign
agents for exporting processor to I didn't even by the way
there was no processor chips involved it was it was memory
chips and D to A converters. That's all they would do. And by
the way to the tune of $50 million since 2008. Why now? Was
this bus taking place? Now I looked up all the parts to see
what they were exporting. And yes, they were militarized. So
Well, isn't that your answer? Right there them because they
were militarized? Well, we're in a proxy war with Russia. I mean,
yeah, I think we,
because they've been sending they've been shipping parts
since 2008. That they come up out of the blue and bust these
guys. I think it is part of the proxy war. Yes. It's like, Hey,
we got an idea. Hey, yo, because you for one thing, you can take
a look at the bag of parts. And you get it looks to me as though
they were shipping stuff for a testing. Because there were too
many different DNA converters. It's not like how many of these
things do you need? I mean, it wasn't like they have shipping
buckets full of one, one type there was all these different
ones.
And what is the what is the DD Ed's so that's digital to analog
converter, what would that be used for to
use it for like if you have a fin that you have to move on a
missile, you know, the digital information that has to be
turned into gear and move it around? Okay? Again, like that,
that kind of thing. So that you need D Day converters, a lot of
DDA converters, and then they had all the memory chips that
they were ordered, were all militarized. In other words,
they were the hardened type of memory that has work under
extreme conditions. But you know, yeah, the bag of parts
looks pretty sketchy. But there's been doing it since
2008. To the end, they've been doing like a dual big business,
his whole family, a bunch of these people. So I think it's a
I think it's part of the whole thing is I wouldn't be surprised
if they got off eventually. But But meanwhile, they the
indictment wants to confiscate everything. They have all their
bank accounts listed or taken all their money, they have all
their houses and all their offices listed. They're taken
all that, you know, the way they operate. Yeah, of course, they
were taking your stuff.
Oh, gotta love it.
Anyway, there was a report that I have on the clips that came
from where I figured that if I'm gonna get a clip about this, I'm
gonna get the Russia Today clip because that'll be the most
slanted. You can play that and it gives people a background on
what we're talking about.
I don't have one specifically the only one that says Russia
today is Turkey. So you have to notice another clip. It's
something labeled very clearly, I'm sure.
Yeah, let's see. Turkey assault positioning.
New Russian spies. How about that one? Yeah, I would make it
Yeah. Okay. It's so clearly arty.
But what we're seeing is a statement being issued by the
Russian Foreign Ministry regarding the four Russian
citizens currently still in custody who have been charged
with the illegal export of military technology. The foreign
ministry is suggesting that these four Russians are being
put under extreme psychological and moral pressure in order to
get them to sign confessions. The foreign ministry is also
wanting a review of the decision to deny these for Russian
citizens bail. It has taken the media by storm and little bit it
has been all over the media. This is some kind of spy
scandal. This is dismissed by the Foreign Ministry, they say
all you have to do is look at the charges that have been
leveled against these four Russian citizens, their criminal
charges, the families of these Russian citizens have been
expressing concern over the way that they're being treated while
they're in custody has been suggestions that they're being
forced to sleep on the floor, that they're in very crowded
cells. These four Russian citizens were picked up on the
third of October as part of a group of 11 people that the FBI
wanted to speak to in connection with the export of high tech
technology from the United States to Russia. It's believed
that technology has a potential of military use. They were
picked up in Houston and Texas over the next few days. They're
going to be moved to New York where the first hearings on this
case will be heard next week.
Do you think they could make it clear that they were citizens
any more than they already did?
There's that and of course in there did they lift up the
waterboarding part which may or may not have taken place Yeah.
Yeah. So yeah, no, this is part of whatever scheme whatever this
is getting worse by the minute this this action between the
United States and Russia is coming very is becoming very
clear. How nasty is getting because Russia today has his own
channel now, by the way, no network on on the dish. Yeah.
And it's all really is gone. They crank up the propaganda and
I mean, it's really propagandistic more than much
more than it was a year ago.
But I think in general, you can say that about everything on
cable we have our T is completely pro pro Russia, screw
America, and they and they hammer on all the things we
like, I have to say, you know, NDA, you know, drones, you know,
there's essentially, I mean, we could be we could work for the
Russians in that regard. Yeah, you know, it's what bothers me.
Yeah. Then we have MSNBC Obama channel. They are. They're not
they're not even apologizing for it.
No, and if you get that idiot, Ed Schultz, I got it goes crazy.
You know, he just screams and he rants about how evil the
Republicans are. He's a horrible person.
There was something I caught on current, which, and I had to do
a little bit of research and it wasn't all that hard. Who do you
think current is working for? I mean, besides for Al Gore, but
who do you think they're representing? Because they must
represent it they can't just be completely when you hear the
report.
They're not an Obama did they have the some of the old Obama
bought people from MSNBC, so we know that they're on that side
of things, but I would say more Hillary? Well, I'm gonna
say it may be more Obama than you think. Listen to this
report. And then I did a little bit of deconstruction of it. And
we'll see where this is all coming from
so I'm ever warehouse employees at Walmart stores are walking
out and striking. And this is a very big deal, because we've
heard a lot of drama with Walmart, you know, they refuse
to unionize their workers. They refuse to pay them a fair wage
for their hard work. And a lot of employees are now tired, so
tired of it, that they're willing to risk their jobs to
walk out and do this strike.
Okay, so
can I say something first? Yeah. Walmart isn't refusing to
unionize their workers. Whew,
yep. That's a good you're catching on?
Why would they throw that in there? Oh, they're refusing to
your union. No, the the workers themselves have to caught create
a situation where they can take a ballot, and then decide to
unionize. And then a bunch of laws fall into place. There's no
company that refuses to unionize their workers or wants to
unionize their workers unless it's corrupt.
So that is the first clue.
So, you know, they're asking for something very simple. For
instance, there's one employee who's been there. He's striking.
He's been there for three years. And he's still making a little
over $8 890 an hour. Okay. And he's working in the produce
section.
By the way, that's what I make me do.
They're not giving these employees what they need to
survive, despite the fact that they are massively profitable.
So it's up to you. This is disguised as news. I don't know
who this woman is. But now chunk is going to come in and chunk us
some facts of the city strike for the first time in Walmart's
history in the last 50 years. And one of the original strikes
that began this was in a place for subcontractors as they were
doing business. The factory got to be 120 degrees. So the two
things they were asking for, they weren't asking for like
great benefits or even increased salaries. They want to ceiling
fans because it was 120 degrees in there. And they wanted shin
guards, because those heavy carts they were pushing around,
kept running into their shins, and they were getting hurt.
Okay, so let's just revisit what we've heard here. Walmart evil,
evil, evil, evil warmer, they won't let their their workers
unionize. All they wanted were some ceiling fans and some shin
guards. So I start to I start to research who is organizing this
strike. This is an outfit called OUR Walmart. If you go to four
respects.org John, f o r, r e s, p e, c t, fo r r e s p e c t,
for respect not org. Our Walmart organization United for Respect
at Walmart about us OUR Walmart vision, we envision a future in
which our company treats us the associates of Walmart with
respect and dignity. We envision a world where we succeed in our
careers our company succeeds in business, our customers receive
great service and value blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I'm
looking at who is this organization and all it says is
organization united for respected Walmart independent
not for profit organization for hourly associates are
organizations not affiliated with Walmart stores and etc,
etc. So I do a little who is on them, which by the way, a chunk
could have done with his TV station there. That woman kind
of Yeah, he's got he's got he's got cameras and people running
around. Yeah, let's see staff. He's got staff. It is the
organization united for Spectre, Walmart. They are located hated
at I mean for just a bunch of people just like, you know,
we're workers where we're you know, evil Walmart we're gonna
strike it's a multistage strike by the way. It's funny they have
an office at 17 75k Street Northwest in the District of
Columbia. That would be the lobbyist Street. And it this is
registered this domain name this fall respect.org by certain W
O'Neill at ufcw.org. Oh my, what is the UFC W John?
I don't know offhand United Food
and Commercial Workers International Union. Hello. Some
union is the union people. Your course. Yeah, but they're
pretending these these people I'm currently paying be
grassroots.
Exactly.
It's a hijack.
Well, no, it's it's a good so what do you call it? astroturf?
astroturfing. Okay. So who is currently V working for it? They
can't be completely stupid. I mean, this is so silly. Instead
of the report should be well, it looks like Walmart is trying to
unionize. And here's who's helping them with it through
this front organization called for respect.org are Walmart.
This is not a not a tough story to bring. And I think it's
actually quite exciting to see you know, this is we know that
Walmart that's
actually more interesting than the story that they're telling.
Yes, thank you. Because you know, these union guys are
trying Yeah, at this because if they could unionize a few
Walmart's these guys, the US whatever they are. They're CWM?
Yeah, they would have them it is a bonanza and union dues.
Thank you. And where does that go to?
It goes right to them paying for that expensive office at
775170 5k? Street? Yeah. But we also know that I'm looking at it
now. And we'll go down right down on the street and look at
it. Can you go into they have an insight on the Google's not yet,
but they haven't, but they are building them up? I think it's
one of those you go inside there has a guy with a big hand said
you can't go any further. Right. But of
course Obama is is backed by the union. So this is why I think
Current TV is still somehow shilling for Obama.
Well, I know chant chunk is a big Obama bot. So that's
what is his real name? I don't know as
I don't know, it's really been as a chunk. Chunk group. Oh,
Jake jogar
chunk is easier. I hear it here's looking at our elites of
the world. This was very, very funny. So we arrested one
banker, I think, and not even really for screwing the world
economy. But this was the the Indian guy, the Gupta guy who
got nailed for insider trading.
Oh, yeah, he got Yeah, I think he was a fall guy. But anyway,
well, now the elites are coming out and because you know, of
course, he's gonna get sentenced because he got nailed for for
insider trading. Here's a quote from Kofi Annan. Kofi Annan is
the guy who fights for justice, who actually gave up but he was
fighting for justice in Syria, that Kofi Annan says to the
judge, I urge you to recognize Raj opt for the good that he has
done in this world to give him the credit that he deserves for
helping others and to take into account his effort to improve
the lives of millions of people. Okay, what yeah, that's Kofi
Annan, but who's next Bill Gates checks in. I wanted to add my
voice to those of other friends and colleagues of Rajat Gupta
who are writing to you in order to round out rajas profile. He
says he's, you know, he was he's on the board of the Bill and
Melinda Gates Foundation. So Bill Gates is in there shilling
for him. We as a society need more visionaries like Rajat
Gupta Rajat Gupta is no threat to anyone inside or outside the
prison fence.
Snowden neither is any other insider trader.
And you know what, it might just work these elite eight holes
they all stick up for each other. Yeah, you should pretty
wild. You should denounce your Windows machine. You should
throw it out the window right now.
So drmeister They go get these people coming out of the
woodwork reminds me that that the Kennebunkport hooker
Am I missing a clip?
No. Yeah, I don't have. I have a story though. Right. I
have the link in the show notes. I didn't look at it because I
figured it would use it. You rarely send me a link as I just
put it in there. I didn't look at it. Tell me the story.
Well, there's a hooker who ran a I guess she was a personal
trainer or or she ran a yoga studio or something and
Kennebunkport busted her candy bar prostitution
Isn't that where the where the Kennedys had the compound?
That's Oh, this may be Kennebunk. Oh, it's not
Kennebunkport, it's Kennebunk is right next door to the other
side of the tracks where the hookers are. And I guess she was
screwing
the other side of the bridge. Is that possible?
Yes. I'm glad you thought that was funny. Anyway, she was I
guess and she she apparently had the bad habit of filming
everything. Oh, so she has all these tapes hate it when my
hookers do that and all the all these guys and this thing goes
on. I thought I had it. Oh, actually, I know I remember
where the clip went. I don't have it on my list here. But
they get there's a report I had it was I took it from the
YouTube anyway, the they're making a big stink about this
because he got she barely has a black book with all this stuff
in people's names. But I'm watching this report and they're
going on and on and on and on and on and on. And then they
said yeah, she's being you know, she's indicted. It's a
misdemeanor in the town. So this is like nationwide breaking news
and it's a crappy misdemeanor yet,
but this is not a good idea to have Black Books and videotapes
and tell people about it. This is usually how you wind up
Suicide is not a good plan. She was an idiot but not a good plan
at all as is
but I'm reminded that what why are these guys coming out of the
woodwork to defend Gupta you know when they should probably
stay you know staying away from it because it sounds to me as
though they've got something to deal with insider trading.
Oh, right. Oh, they're worried that he might blow the whistle
on them. So they're like yeah, my buddy Gupta Come on, man go
easy on
Russia because once they flip a guy like let's face it, he's not
the only guy doing illegal trades. So you're right and he
must know everybody and their sister and so now these guys are
getting on his good side it seems to me that's the only
reason that's what the hooker This is just what happens with
the hooker you know, the judge lets her off. Why?
Oh, well gee, Judge lift up them robes. Let's see if we can get a
match.
Wow. So anyway, okay.
Well, Rashad is is cruising for freedom and the hooker has
proven cruisin for an unfortunate lead poisoning at
high velocity.
She is wow. I wish she barely taped all of her encounters.
That is so not smart. Yeah, they have the tape so now it's
evidence against her the whole thing's a disaster. Wow.
Well, maybe now would be time for me to to sit down and well,
actually, I'd like I'd like to continue our celebration, John.
Our silly our celebration of National Cybersecurity Awareness
Month. Oh, that's right. It does not stop it started the
beginning of October. I
took part today took part today. Oh, yeah. What
did you do to celebrate National sign? rated a
vast? A vast? Yeah, it's one of the one of the is the current
anti virus free free. Oh, being your Avast needs to be up to
date in right. Yes.
No. So you're guaranteed they can spy on you. No, that's good.
Good. Good. Yeah. Always make sure there's a backdoor. Well,
every
everybody is celebrating along with us. So CNN, Iranian hackers
have launched a cyber war on us targets. According to The Wall
Street Journal, which sides top US officials. They say there's
been a string of hacking attacks on American banks and on oil and
energy companies in the Persian Gulf and Middle East. Defense
Secretary Leon Panetta is sounding the alarm. Yes. And of
course, so CNN and the Wall Street Journal, we cannot leave
out MSN or CNBC. also celebrating Cybersecurity
Awareness Month. Wells Fargo, America's fourth largest bank
has been hit with a cyber attack. Bank says no major
damage was done to their accounts. US officials are now
saying he ran and others are now repairing a cyber attack on the
US. SECRETARY OF DEFENSE LEON PANETTA suggested a Pearl Harbor
type threat. And he laid out his worst case scenarios. So I I
pulled a number of clips from this speech that Leon Panetta
gave in New York on the on the intrepid before the business
enterprise organization. And I think we some of them are a
couple minutes. Would you like to go through these because his
whole speech was 40 minutes in total. I've been able to boil it
down. But I think what he was saying is so incredibly
important, so that we understand just how screwed we are as a
freedom fighters on the internet. You and I are going to
be off the air very, very soon.
I wouldn't be surprised.
The first thing that I found very interesting was Panetta is
connection to 911, which I didn't even know there was one
strong Nash
Your defense is all about. And you understand that a strong
national defense and a strong economy go hand in hand.
You see, is that the one I was looking for? I think so.
With that in mind, tonight, I'd like to discuss with you have an
issue, and I'm sorry.
Well, we'll just listen to this one, I have no idea where that
clip point
that I think, is at the very nexus of business, and national
security, the threats facing the United States, in cyberspace,
and the role that the defense department must play in
defending this country from those kinds of threats. We're on
an aircraft carrier, a famous and great aircraft carrier. And
it's a fitting and appropriate venue to have this discussion,
this ship and the technology that's on display at this
museum, a test to one of the central achievements of the
United States in the 20th century.
You know, what's so horrible about this guy when he talks he
takes so long to get the words out.
Now when you use a density, you can crank it up and you can you
can speed him up.
It's it's it's annoying, but therefore, it was easy to edit.
Well, so far, you didn't edit that part out and it's pretty
dull.
Yeah, well, then let's go to exciting bit.
But even more alarming is an attack that happened two months
ago, when a very sophisticated virus called Shamoun
Shamoun. Have we heard of the Shimon virus John?
Doesn't ring a bell
did your vast update for the Shimbun virus? My friend? Ah, I
don't think so. Listen to what this virus can do. It can
destroy you
infected computers in the Saudi Arabian state oil company,
Aramco. Shamoun, included a routine called a wiper,
wiper, a wiper,
not a folder, not a scrunch here but a wiper,
coated to self execute. This routine replaced crucial systems
files with an image of a burning US flag.
Okay, let me just get this straight. So it plays JPEGs on
your instead of your registry or something. I mean, I don't know.
Let's listen some more because I need to spell this virus
Shamoun. You can look it up in the book of knowledge. It is
exactly his description, s h a m o n, which is HASSHAMO N. Now
listen, when I listen to when you read the Wikipedia, you'll
hear exactly his description.
But it also put additional garbage data, garbage data that
overrode all the real data on the machine.
This guy should be teaching it
more than 30,000 computers that it infected were rendered
useless and had to be replaced. Now. That's way Oh crap. Bull
crap. Oh, crap. What?
Yeah, no, no, wait, wait, no, remember who he's talking to.
He's talking to business enterprise executives. So of
course, first you say oh, my god blew up 30,000 computers.
It virtually destroyed 30,000 computers,
destroying 30,000 computers.
Then just days after this incident, there was a similar
attack on Ross gas of Qatar, a major energy company in the
region. All told. The shamoon virus was probably the most
destructive attack that the private sector has seen today.
Okay.
Really?
What No, no, wait for the scary bit
agenda, the impact and attack like that would have on your
company. You aihole
First you lie about how the computers were trashed. And then
imagine if that if that happened to your company. Imagine if that
happened. So this goes on and on and on. And you can see in the
in the Wikipedia it is literally the same example of the 30,000.
It's a relatively new art Article, so whatever Shamu virus
Okay, fine. So what do we need? What do we need for all this? We
need new rules.
Hold on a second. Let me do it. Let me tell you the I'm looking
at the great thing about Wikipedia nowadays is you can
look at the history of the article.
And AT and T is the most recent editor. Someone at the AT and T.
Things started showing up in August 19. Of this year. With
this is redundant, just two people knew most. And Thor wall
they're discussing water. Yeah,
yeah. The shields obviously this, of course, is bullcrap. So
what do we need? John? What do we need to take action? What do
we need? What do we need? What do we know? But
we need 30,000 machines all we need
new rules.
Responding to the cyber threat cyber threat requires the right
policies and organizations across the federal government.
For the past year, the Department of Defense has been
working very closely with other agencies to understand where are
the lines of responsibility? When it comes to cyber defense?
Where do we draw those lines? And how do those
responsibilities get executed? As part of that effort, the
department is now finalizing the most comprehensive change to our
rules of engagement in cyberspace in seven years,
okay, so we don't know what the rules are yet. But this is
what's happening. We're changing the rules, the most significant
change in seven years. We're in the process. No worries, we're
getting there. Now. Of course,
the Department of Defense also has a role. Uh huh. It is a
supporting role. Okay. But it is an essential role. And tonight,
I want to explain what that means. Thank you. But first, let
me make clear what it does not mean, okay. It does not mean
that Department of Defense.
Do you notice that he stumbles every single time he's trying to
say Department of Defense? He says department of depends.
Yeah, he seems to have trouble saying defense
clear what it does not mean department. He's always saying
department.
It does not mean that Department of Defense will monitor
citizens, personal personal computers.
Oh, no, of course not. A citizen. No, not at all. Hey,
citizen. We won't monitor your personal email.
We're not interested in personal communication. Oh, no, of course
not. Or in emails, no. Or in providing the day to day
security of private and commercial networks like vas,
that is not our goal. That is not our job. That is not our
mission. Oh, gudi
are Miss job is
it? Well, it will. The mission is of course
he says it he says it assumes they do wait. You have to assume
the way set made that phrase, it's somebody's job. It's not
his though. Well, that's what his job is to monitor our email,
the commercial companies, that's what he's leading up to. He's
leading up to saying it is your job to do that
is to defend the nation, defend the nation, we defend, we deter
and if called upon, we take decisive action to protect our
citizens. In the past we have done so through operations on
land and at sea, in the skies and in space. And now in this
century, the United States military must help defend the
nation in cyberspace as well. Yeah, if a foreign adversary
attack us soil, the American people have every right to
expect their national defense forces to respond
to it's kind of interesting that we're being we're under attack
right now because I heard it on CNN and CNBC. So we are under
attack. So at any moment, Leon Panetta will dawn his Tron cyber
suit and and come to our rescue, how can you help companies
ultimately, no one has a greater interest in cybersecurity, than
the businesses that depend on a safe, secure and resilient
global digital infrastructure, particularly those who operate
the critical networks that we must help defend. To defend
those networks more effectively. We must share information
between the government and the private sector, about threats in
cyberspace. We've made real progress in sharing information
with the private sector that
just go look on Second Street in San Francisco or just look up
Echelon or, or their wiretapping without warrants, we've made
some real progress.
But very frankly, we need Congress to act to ensure that
this sharing is timely and comprehensive. company should be
able to share specific threat information with the government,
without the prospect of lawsuits hanging over their head, oh,
here we go. There it is. And the key principle must be to protect
the fundamental liberties and privacy in cyberspace that we
are all duty bound to uphold
What could possibly go wrong?
Fact is that to fully provide the necessary protection in our
democracy, cybersecurity legislation must be passed by
the Congress. Without it, we are, and we will be vulnerable.
And then of course, we've got to wrap the whole thing up by
really putting this the fear of God into you while you're on an
aircraft carrier in New York.
before September 11 2001. The warning signs were there. We
weren't organized. We weren't ready. And we suffered terribly.
For that lack of attention. We cannot let that happen again.
This is pre 911 moment.
Let's clap for that. Pre 911. Wadley pre 911
PD attackers are plotting. Our systems will never be
impenetrable. Just like our physical defenses are not
perfect. But more can be done to improve them. We need Congress
and we need all of you to help in that effort. I want you to
know that Department of Defense is doing our part.
Yeah. Right. So there you go pre 911 This is a Pearl Harbor event
Pearl spelled P E R
L. So you should read my column cyber war. Bring It On October
12. PC Magazine people out there right where I discussed this
exact topic. Yeah. And I'd have a couple of good lines in here.
One is now according to the government officials, we have
again, a threat looming over our heads. This time. It's a form of
cyber terrorism. Nevermind that the terrorists who we managed to
identify tend to be living in mud huts in Waziristan where
they enjoy blasting them left and right with drone strikes. As
far as I know, these folks and their dirt roads do not sit on
any OSI 768 fiber network. Even if they have a phone line, it
would be a miracle exactly how they can manage to get the
skills necessary to develop complex cyber attacks is beyond
me.
You did you you should have added in there, didn't our
government just tell us that Iran was was disconnecting the
entire country from the web that
in the column? Oh, good, good. I
mean, you can't have it both ways. There is
Iran or Iran who by the way, in the in the debates, it's
interesting that that Ryan pronounce it Iran correctly, the
host pronounce it Iran correctly. And Biden pronounce
it Iran.
He's not in the loop. He's not in the loop. But here's here's
here's where I was leading up to this is some legislation unless
you want to read more from your column, which I always enjoyed,
but people should go get this column and they get a point here
I brought I brought out
there a free decoder ring. If you read the column, this is
something
they learned something. So I have the latest
draft document of clean it the clean it which is now
circulating through the European Union. This is that now we've we
read this legislation earlier, the August Legia briefing. And I
have now come into possession of the most recent update, it is
the clean it project. This is from the European Union. There's
a link in the show notes at 452 dot n a shownotes.com. You can
see the entire clean it site this of course this document is
not listed there. Because it is confidential, not for
publication limited distribution. This document or
the recipient may share this document only with others within
their organization on a need to know basis. Now the fact that I
am in possession of this probably means that it's being
floated to see what the response will be. And they purposely
leaked. Yes, it is being leaked. I would like to read you some of
the recommendations that will be a part of the legislation of the
European Union as it pertains to terrorism, illegal activities
and the internet. Are you ready? No. Okay, so The leading the
European Commission will be approached to consider finding a
European organization that will adopt the results of the clean
it continuous activities and hosts the new European public
private dialogue and cooperation format to reduce terrorists use
of the internet. So what they're doing here is they're pitching
for regulation, and of course, another government body that
will regulate your internet freedoms. And in Europe, it is
the European Commission who does this, they have all the power,
these are the non elected elites who run the show. So let's just
run through a couple of things of what this will Oh, by the
way, governments that commit to this document will start the
National Clean it cooperation format within half a year. So
this is six months from now, John, we could be off air within
six months. And I'll tell you why. Listen to what's going on
here. Under the legal framework, internet companies must be
obliged by law to provide le A's that's law enforcement agencies,
but I'll just call them le A's from now on because they use it
throughout the entire document. With all necessary customer
information for investigations of terrorists use of the
internet, it must be legal for police officers to patrol on
social media. This includes having a profile, joining user
groups sending and receiving messages on the platform. So
we're gonna have cops on the social.
This is a cop job. I wouldn't mind having Well, standby
because I'm gonna be on patrol today. I'll be on Twitter. I
need a break. I gotta take a break from Twitter. I'm gonna go
ask you guys at lunch. I'm gonna be out. Yeah, this afternoon.
I'm going to be patrolling Facebook, if you know what I
mean. And then I'm gonna go patrol friend finder, if you
know what I mean, again, a camera.
kind of check on everybody. Go check on the terrorist. Okay,
knowingly providing hyperlinks on websites to terrorist content
must be defined by law as illegal. Let me repeat that.
Yes, please repeat that that was a good one.
Knowingly providing hyperlinks on websites to terrorist content
must be defined by law is illegal. Of course, really, what
is terrorist content?
Is that of course, man.
There you go. Terrorist content, states Muslim states. And that
that means of course, the the member states of the European
Union countries must make clear that original terrorist content
and terrorist activities on the internet of people and
organizations is illegal and should not be allowed on
internet company platforms. And the platform's is the thing that
becomes very interesting, because we're going to explain
what that means. I love this judge's public prosecutors and
specialized police officers must be legally allowed to order by
means of a notice and take action procedure to remove
terrorist content from the internet. So that doesn't mean
you're gonna have a trial. I mean, specialized police
officers can go, let's remove this remove this from the
internet. This is a terrorist content, let's get rid of it.
Governments must have le A's or intelligence agencies monitor
terrorist use of the internet, but only monitor specific
threats, not primarily the population as a whole or all
internet use. Again, what could possibly go wrong with that?
Governments have clear policies and intelligence gathering and
when to take action against terrorists radicalizing content
on the radicalizing content on the internet. So now it's
radicalizing content that they will be policing. Governments
must have specialized police officers patrol on social media.
There it is, again, governments must disseminate lists of domain
names that are not allowed to be registered to prevent terrorist
propaganda. So what would what like I don't know. No agenda
show.com.
No agenda that's got a very nebulous,
it's propaganda man, is to prevent terrorist propaganda.
This is so open for interpretation. Governments must
subsidize competent NGOs as non governmental organizations gonna
have to be us exactly. That substantially contribute to
reducing terrorist use on the Internet and radicalized we're
up. That's exactly what the no agenda shows all about. But then
we have to
become a registered NGO. Yeah. Okay. Well, there's money in it
for us. I'm telling you, there's big money in it for us.
Yeah. I mean, I don't have a problem with this. Okay.
Let me skip down to the next bit here.
And by the way, we also consider Hillary a terrorist. Yes. And
just
saying this is enough to get us kicked off. Now we have to
implement flagging and reporting buttons systems. Flagging slash
Report button systems must be implemented by provider
everywhere. Ah, yes, log. Well, yes, I'll tell you. This has to
happen on the following providers of chat boxes, email
services, messaging says Some social networks retailing sized
Voice over Internet Protocol, web forums must all have
flagging systems. web forums.
Now it's dumb, but it gets better.
The anonymity of the boingboing. Yeah, the anonymity of the
reporter must be preserved. Reporter details must hit man.
This is contradictory because there's other laws saying you
can't have anonymity. What's the deal?
Let me finish the sentence. Reporter details must never be
shown to content owners. In other words, you can just go rat
on people and you're never gonna have any recover repercussions
because you know, you'll be protected. You'll be protected
by ratting someone out.
Oh, yeah, I'm reading out the New York Times.
Specialized NGOs should actively flagged illegal terrorist
content. Oh, my God. John, can you imagine just sitting around
all day just clicking flagging stuff
all day, like this guy's face.
And it gets better. Internet companies could extend a higher
credibility status to trusted flagging organizations.
trusted flaggers? Yes. I love the brown dress that flag to say
my flag
will have the brown shirts in cyberspace.
I don't know about your flag. But I wouldn't mind seeing your
poll. Hey, now.
Voice over IP Voice over IP services, it must be possible to
flag users for terrorist activity. Now you guys got it
out.
Unless you're listening in.
If messaging systems are attached, it must also be
possible to flag specific messages. Some Voice over IP
technologies allow for conversations to be flagged.
Yeah, I guess that's what Skypes doing. That's why they're
sucking so bad.
Yeah, too many flags clogging up the bandwidth. Internet
companies
offering users the opportunity to create their own subgroups
should make flagging reporting buttons available on the
subgroups. And for the most is
read listen list. Now you're getting me mad. And there's a
column and this is my Monday calling magazine how stupid this
is. You can have every blog and every comment stream and
everything does have a flagging by the moment.
And for the moderators to remove content. So we need to have
nots, you can if that's what
moderators can do already. Yeah. Nazis. moderators, moderate, for
a reason to terrorism, if somebody comes on the blog and
says, You suck.
Well, this is interesting, because I'm glad you asked me
that question. They're terrorizing me. Here it is. So
now they know. So the calling for this advisory organization,
which will determine all of these things. This is the
ministry of appropriate freedoms. The organization will
provide research and advice on terrorist and other content
which is recognized as dangerous throughout the EU and in each
individual country. They would be legislation, the organization
should provide advice on legislation and jurisprudence,
academic work on the subject, material that can be researched
and use for machine learning, known terrorist and extremist
content. And here comes hate speech.
So that's where you're going to get kicked off the interwebs is
because of your hate speech, because you said something
hateful, you bullied somebody, boo hoo hoo. By the way, if
you're going to join one of the NGOs, the Nazi group
organizations, estates here, specifically governments, legal,
law enforcement agencies, NGOs, and internet companies could
employ or use former terrorists and victims to reduce
radicalization online. So there's a gig in it for you so
we can flip Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So see, had one more
thing. referral units,
what are you reading from again, unless you remind me,
this is the clean it. Clean it September 2012. Document for
best practices and permanent dialogue.
And this came from from the interwebs. Not made came from
the EU or who's who's the author of the
this is the if you I'll give you the website, hold on a second.
Is Here it is. Come on mouse. The URL is clean. It project got
EU and they have the August. Up there the August draft. This is
September. This is reducing. So the most recent article on the
clean it is reducing the impact of terrorist use of the
Internet. And so, September is not published officially. Now,
interestingly enough,
this is how does this differ from the August? Did you do a
comparison? Yeah.
The August was just like, oh terrorists, you know, using the
internet, whatever. Now, radicalizing, no, no, this this
has specific rules and regulations are laying out here.
You should this wasn't just planted and it's bull crap. And
it never will appear in the real document. No, because
the last time I got one it was it was published a few weeks
later, okay. Internet companies must only ask customers users to
identify themselves in with real, real names.
Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. How can you what are the
cops doing it? They're gonna be patrolling the Facebook and the
Twitter and the friendfinder. And all the rest of these
things. They're gonna be using their real names Adolphus
sergeant, John Jenkins.
Well, I'm glad I'm glad you asked that we have the heading
virtual policing a virtual community policing. Let me read
you some hype. And this, by the way is all marked up in the show
notes you can download the PDF. virtual community policing must
be used to find and connect to persons in danger of being
radicalized.
There's a whole bunch of just arrest them and throw them in
the slammer like we normally do. Virtual police officers should
be Hey, I got a better idea. Why don't we find these people and
then trick them into pushing a button it says is a bomb blowing
up a building that will be well, virtual? Are we doing most of
the radicalization ourselves I mean, well, just cutting out the
middleman doesn't make sense, then I'll
jump straight to point eight virtual police officers should
become members in extremist and terrorist fora as much as
possible, subscribing to news mailing lists and alerts etc. To
be able to detect any terrorist content or activity. It's saying
it right there. You have the virtual police officers have to
join the terrorist forums, which they call for. Subscribe to the
news and news lists and mailing lists I guess get involved in
the communities you can then go bust people. Virtual police
officers on the other hand should be easily recognizable
make clear they are real policemen and use their real
photos names and various ways to contact them. Virtual police
officers should use going to work virtual police officers
should use easy to understand popular language friendly icons
and profile photographs in order to lower the threshold of being
contacted and in order to be effective in combination with
the younger users of social media was up yo brah yo bro guys
anyone lead around here so this is what's coming and then you
know what's gonna happen this is exactly what this is. You know
there's no stopping this and this is also going to be used
for intellectual property. Yeah, this is going to be used to curb
your free speech which you already don't have certainly not
in Europe. You know, because then you might be practicing
hate speech. No, I
hate speech I hate I hate hate you suck
now here in the United States, you suck hate speech. It's
totally hate speech. here and get more nation proper AT and T
has now announced that in November, they will start on
their Uverse with the six strikes in your out policy. And
it looks like everyone else is joining in on this. So if you
download in November 28 customers whose accounts are
repeatedly flagged there you go there's the flagging already
sneaking in for alleged copyright infringement which
means downloading something will have their access to frequently
visited websites blocked until they complete an online
copyright course. Internet your speakers just a little bit John.
Just a tad. Just coming back.
This is a reminds me of traffic school.
It's exactly the same as traffic school. And an 18 t's U verse is
not the only one that's going to do this Time Warner I'm also we
have we have the what's the other cable outfit?
Time where Comcast Comcast Yeah,
they're gonna do it. Verizon. Everyone's jumping on the
bandwagon, November 28. Is when everyone's going to start
Cablevision, Comcast Time Warner and Verizon and if you if you
download something illegally more than six times then you
then you will basically only get a web page that says you have to
complete the copyright course. Which is just like traffic
school. You're right.
Yeah, and you knew what that means. These are what the scam
is I'll tell you why. Right now
where you're worried about some money. It's a money scam.
Exactly. This course is going to cost John or
dollars. Why don't we set the course of where we should be
headed. The
first thing I thought of is is air some money we need something
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well that's pretty much me John just like that. I'm just sticky
lating so I promised some Canadian content here it is
page dedicated to Amanda Todd's memory the bullies have found
her again. The news below it rest in peace Amanda laugh out
loud. I'm so happy she's dead now wrote another who identified
herself as a classmate and pictures the one that teen wish
she'd never shared, posted over and over again. Police
investigating her death are now also investigating this
gathering evidence
to potential so you clearly you need a little setup to this
clip. This is about Amanda Todd. And there's a reason why I'm
playing this clip Amanda Todd who killed herself after being
cyber bullied to a Canadian really identify an individual
that may in some way have played a role in her ultimately making
this terrible decision.
This is Amanda Todd just weeks ago in flashcards detailing a
teenage mistake. A nude photo sent in trust than broadcast for
all to ridicule. She changed homes she changed schools but
the internet bullies wouldn't allow the gossip to die. This 15
year old killed herself Wednesday. Her mother said she's
proud her daughter made that video. She didn't want anyone to
feel the pain that she felt she had the biggest part. It changes
your life forever. If anyone understands this pain Alan cube
Lee does his son Jamie was bullied. Last October the 15
year old killed himself Hubler has been fighting for change
ever since
people in British Columbia will come together and just say to
the bullies that it's over. The game's up stop
cyberbullying and sexting our words experts say need to become
part of all Canadians vocabulary, advice for parents,
educate your kids, remind them what goes online stays online.
Just like they teach kids about being street smart and street
safety. They can teach you about cyber safety.
While police investigate how and why Amanda Todd died B C's
Premier is calling for change, potentially making cyber
bullying a criminal offense. Identifying and punishing kids
who hurt kids.
Ah, there you go. There you go. It is a will become a criminal
offence to bully online. And are you still with me, John? Yeah.
Okay. I would like to remind everyone that we have seen this
happen over and over again, where kids get cyber bullied,
and then they wind up committing suicide. Usually the lawyers who
come out for this are representing certain other
entities, because what is not being told in this story I show
and I want to do whenever I read this, whenever I read teen kills
himself, because of bullying. I immediately Google for the
following. And here it is. Amanda's bullying continued
despite moving to a new city, antidepressants, and counseling
did little to combat the severe depression. What happens is
these kids, they, of course, they they become depressed. And
you know, there's all kinds of, you know, it sucks to be
bullied, you know, this is when parents need to step up. You
need to help your child not take them to the doctor and put them
on the drugs where the commercial literally says may
induce suicide, thoughts of suicide in young people. These
kids are killing themselves because you put them on the
drugs that make them kill themselves. Stop doing this. It
is not the cyber bullying. It is the drugs that are supposedly
helping them against their depression. Stop giving your
children these drugs copies of the day. You can Google it every
single time.
Yeah, I think you're probably right. It makes sense.
You remember the we had the big one here in America. And then
the lawyers who showed up were were lawyers for pharmaceutical
companies. Because they want to steer these poor parents in the
direction of odd cyber bullying. We need laws against cyber
bullying which of course will completely shut down free speech
because it'll be hate speech or or the terrorism speech or
radicalization speech or whatever it is. Please wait
whatever you do don't look at the the antidepressants we had
the kid on don't look at the meds that had nothing to do with
it
yeah, I'm thinking that's probably right. Yeah, good job
somebody up and dopamine weird out and that's in especially
kids. She's only 15
Yeah. And don't don't the commercial specifically say
yeah, no, they do we play those commercials. oscillators all the
disclaimers,
they say specifically may cause suicidal thoughts in young
people.
Okay, well that's your Canadian news, ladies and gentlemen, we
try to stay upbeat.
How's that working out? How's that working out for you? All
right.
I got a couple of interesting items. These are like, old
stories that were never reported that I remember. Because they
were all new when I watched them. It's what I didn't know.
This is why I didn't know that. Now. Here's a couple of them.
Let's go through Omega three. How about the weird Gore Bush
debate anecdote? Now let me set this up. They were discussing
with some consultants what you know how you set you know, your
How do you do practice for the debates and all the rest of it.
And these consultants dropped a little bombshell in here that I
had no idea. This was during the Bush Gore debates of 2000. I
keep up with the news. I never heard this story ever, ever see
videotape of this. You don't even see pictures. No. There's
there's a reason why you don't want you don't want to show
those vulnerable moments. We don't want to give away any
component to our prep in the 2000 campaign, one of McKinnon
secretaries gave Bush debate prep video to the Gore campaign.
The Gore campaign very smartly went right to the FBI. And what
happened
to her? She went to prison for a year.
Well, I remember that wasn't that they were getting it off of
the off of the satellite off of the raw feed was not what how
they were obtaining that video. That's illegal. I'm just saying
that's
no, apparently they had some tapes. And this woman who I
guess was a double agent for the campaign, if you want to call it
that. She gives us stuff over the Gore campaign. They call the
FBI. They throw the woman in prison for doing what?
For stealing the sex tape.
I mean, really, what was there something more to this, this
doesn't sound right.
Well, it's theft, I guess you can call it. I mean, all these
you know, the DNC, the RNC, they're incorporated, they're
corporations. So that's industrial theft, industrial
espionage.
So meanwhile, there's this story that's floating around, which
had mainstream media didn't pick up on I think it's just a
provocative, provocative action taking place. This came off of I
think, the Chinese news. This is a simulated drill that's going
to take place with the United States, working with Japan and
tell me what you think this might be about.
The Japanese newspapers Sanchay Shimbun reports that the US and
Japan will hold joint military drills in November, near and in
and in inhabited make Abaddon inhabited island in Okinawa
Prefecture. Naval land and air forces from both countries are
expected to participate in the drills, which reportedly aimed
at simulating the retaking of an island occupied by enemy forces.
Hmm, gee,
that might be about Well,
a couple of things are so we got to keep these Chinese in check.
Because these trainers are doing some really bad stuff they are.
There is an all out assault on our Petrodollar by the Chinese.
They are making their own deals outside of the US petro dollar
system, whatever they had, like 10 countries now they're doing
the doing oil deals with we got it. We got to check these guys.
And now the movement in Toledo they're in Ohio. They're all
over
Africa. Forget Toledo. We got taken over Toledo. No Holy
Toledo.
We got to let these Chinese know that. You know, you can't mess
with us that way.
And then there's this and then there's this clip, which this is
the set this up. This is the odd TEPCO this analysis.
This is just a clip of Palooza you're laying out on me here
Killip a palooza, this is
this I didn't realize I think we may have talked about I don't
remember this specifically. But they're reanalyzing they had an
independent panel look at the meltdown of the reactors in
Japan. And by the way, you do I just want to remind some of our
listeners who were all panicky about these things we're gonna
blow up Oh, no, there's fake reports that were put out there
that were supposed to like bite into like, you know, some other
deconstruction shows might have done the mean like,
you mean like people getting Geiger counters to check their
sushi. John, is that what you're talking about?
Ready now this is this. I did not know. You ready? I did not
know. I didn't want to talk about this after we hit it.
Okay.
And still with news from Japan. The head of Tokyo Electric Power
companies new independent panel says the company blew it on
nuclear plant safety. It was the first time the company had
admitted that last year's Nuclear Crisis was was
avoidable.
The operators should have known, if certain things happen, they
vent. If certain things happen to add sea water, I can assure
you in the United States, if they had an issue of reactor
cooling where the core was about to become uncovered, the
operators would not call the CEO of the company and they
certainly would not call the president of United States and
ask could they do that they would do it
so what he's saying is he didn't come out and out and say it but
apparently the guys running these reactors that think is
falling apart and the guy says, What are we going to do? We can
follow up procedures No, let's call the boss
well that's exactly how it works. They're in Japan that's
the whole culture.
Yeah. So they call the boss and I guess they call the Prime
Minister somebody the premier I mean, they wouldn't they didn't
just take care of it. This is really a flaw in certain Asian
cultures. I may miss this like
so what I'm not right but what I'm not getting from the report
is did they get through to the boss or the Premier and what was
the answer?
Well, I don't know if they did it. See it sounds to me that the
guy wasn't home. Well, hey, let it melt down until he gets home.
Hey, Jenson,
no one's home man what are we gonna do? I don't know dude.
Call again called the Prime Minister cell number.
Puts posted on Twitter man, I don't know we gotta get through.
So I have one other one. That's a little tidbit that is just
completely alien. To me. This is something of a long clip. But it
adds a little piece of a fundamental piece of information
that I think we need to know on this show. And apparently the
French especially with Oh lawned are in really intend to be one
of the players that I don't know. I guess they got this pair
up their ass. They want to be now one of the players in
Africa.
Before we play the clip, can I answer your question? Sure. The
hair up your ass analogies. An interesting one? Is this
something that actually has happened to you? Or have you
witnessed it's just an old phrase, but does it come from in
the old days that people used to have a hair up their ass?
I don't know where it why it was even used as a term.
No, just ask them thought maybe you had an idea? I never heard
it before. Yeah, but only now that I just think about like,
wow, you know, is that annoying?
I didn't really expect to deconstruct the old
colloquialisms on the show. I mean, I'm gonna give you my
every time I say one of these old things like cripes.
Well, no, we thought Yes. We have discussed Cripe we have
discussed. Get on the stick we've discussed Fiddlesticks we
discuss all these times.
I don't say Fiddlesticks. We've discussed it. That don't even
remember what what was Fiddlesticks what was
discussed. Your mother wears army boots. Ah,
that was a good one. Yeah.
But hair up your ass. I'll look it up when we listen to the clip
that was supposed to be a celebration of the French
language 70 heads of state and gathering in the Democratic
Republic of Congo this Saturday, along with French President
Francois Oh, lord. But the summit is shrouded in
controversy earlier this week or launched himself said the
situation in Congo was unacceptable in terms of human
rights, democracy and the respect of the opposition, but
he agreed to attend in an effort to promote democracy in Africa.
Earlier we spoke to a reporter Nicolas Yama who's covering the
summit for France and cat. He told us what's the top of the
agenda today?
Well, we know that first of all, they're going to talk about the
crisis situations in the Francophone areas. And first of
all about Marley and northern Mali, the territory is occupied
by Islamist forces, they will discuss the possible military
intervention of a regional force. They will also talk about
Congo here where in the east of the country, the N 23 rebels are
opposed to government forces. The UN says that Rwanda supports
these rebels. Kigali denies the accusations. So here today, the
Congolese and random delegations will be able to discuss that
topic. And of course, it's a francophone Summit. So they're
going to talk about the future of the French language. Today
French is spoken by 220 million people in 2050 700 million
people will talk French and most of them will be here in Africa,
and they will all be singing Swasey enough.
Did you know that they were going to do 700 million Babel
gonna be speaking in French and most of them in Africa.
He was still I believe the official language of politics.
French it is the it is the Ilia I think it's still the elitist
language. I think that ended some time back and well not
according to the French.
I just thought that was peculiar.
Well, you know, the French colonialism certainly spread out
quite a bit. I mean, you talk to any of these people from from
Africa, they all speak French, most of them
and then I have the one last thing which is my clip gone bad.
Polasek clip gone bad. All right. Well
concrete laws governing workers was that actually broadcast that
way on RT?
No, it was a clip gone bad.
Okay. Wow, she the correct use of the phrase is a have a wild
hair up your ass
not just the hair been concatenated Yes,
it has been a wild hair, which would be a psychological
irritation. A wild hair dye
it doesn't. There has to be a better. There has to be an
etymology that makes sense.
Well, I'm looking at the etymology and there's 1952 as a
reference, but
it was as wild H AI R h a r e.
H AI R, I believe. You can have a hair across your ass. How
about you can have a hairy Canary This is that's a good
one. We should use the hairy Canary line. I never heard it.
What is it used for? As in a wild hair up your ass? It's just
another way hairy Canary. Canary Canary. That's where we go hairy
Canary and we're sticking with it. Well, John, I think it is
now time since we have everybody listening. I think it is time to
congratulate the European Union.
Welcome to the program. This year's Nobel Peace Prize has
been awarded to the European Union The Nobel Committee so the
EU deserved the award for its long term role is uniting the
continent after World War Two.
Yes, that's right. Yeah. I mean, how? How lame. Is this?
His business as bad as Obama? I mean,
yeah, we have a Nobel Peace Prize winner with a kill list. I
mean, that was already crazy. But now Well, here's the here's
Burroughs. So he's very happy, bro. So thanks. It's great. I
have to
say that when I woke up this morning, I did not expect it to
be such a good day.
Because you know Europe is going down in flames. Everything is
breaking away. But we have a prize.
It was with great emotion that I received the news of the words
of nobel peace prize to the European Union.
European what he said Nobel note Oh, you
keep saying Nobel
in and then you pin community hasn't been the fight. Countries
split by the Cold War. And as made it around the values of
respect for human dignity, freedom, democracy, justice, the
rule of law and respect for human rights
and just wait until we get the police on the cyber networks. It
will be great. Oh, sand in your badge is another one that's
being recommended here. So here is of course our friend Nigel
Farage, who pretty much expresses the same sentiments we
have on the best podcast in the universe about this ludicrous,
ridiculous, elite megalomaniac inspired idea and degradation of
the entire concept of any Nobel Prize by handing it to the
European Union rife with wars
get more on that top story, the Nobel Peace Prize being awarded
to them please pay
attention to the BBC shield trying to confront Nigel Farraj
about this European
Union. Joining us live now from Central young London is the
leader of the UK Independence Party, Nigel Farage, Mr. Farage,
welcome to BBC World News. So you've been phoning Josie
Manuel, but also to say congratulations, well done.
You are so funny. NEWSMAN.
I think the whole thing is nonsense. I mean, if anybody is
seriously suggesting that a democratic stable postwar
Germany would have invaded France, again, with the
intention of smashing it to smithereens, I would suggest
there misreading history. I don't believe there was any
prospect of war happening in Western Europe after 1945. And
arguably, projects that take different nation states, force
them together, under a new identity, a new flag and a new
anthem. If they do it without the consent of the peoples, far
from creating peace, this can actually create war, as
Yugoslavia has showed us. So I'm baffled by this prize, as I
think the viewers will be because the last big European
story was Angela Merkel going to Athens. And there we saw
swastikas being flown and Europe now being dominated by grief,
violence and division. So you've completely omitted or you've
forgotten what the Cold War was about them? Yes, the Cold War
was about NATO, NATO and the nuclear deterrent, the fact we
had the fact the Russians didn't invade us had absolutely nothing
to do with the European Union, which after all, wasn't actually
fully created until 1992. So you're saying the European Union
now is not about freedom. It's not about law. It's not about
human rights. It's not about reconciliation. It's about the
destruction of nation state. democracy. mr. Barroso was
perfectly clear one month ago in Strasburg national democracy has
to go it has it has it has to be transferred up to a European
level and that is being done without consent and far from
making the peoples of Europe love each other. What has
actually happened is the Euro zone has divided Europe north to
south and our our increasing growing emulators and violence
on the streets We are headed in a very bad and I think dangerous
direction you be
this douchebag from the BBC cheese
this this just in Jerry Sandusky is one the Think of the children
award. Yeah, kids builders had a good one. He said what's next
Herman Van Rompuy wins an Oscar. Like funny enough. The
wasn't a good one. It wasn't funny.
I'd like that one. I liked it when it came out. You didn't
like that one?
No, it wasn't nominated.
Was it? Iran has they're creating the Islamic Nobel
Prize. They figured thing is now so devalued. Yeah. Oh, I missed
this one. Yeah, Iran, which has themselves only one Nobel Prize
Laureate announced the inception of a rival award intended solely
for outstanding scientists of the Islamic world. That's great.
That's very smart. But they shouldn't just do it for the
Islamic world. It'll be the great Prophet world prize. Can't
wait, this would be a fun ceremony.
There's a million jokes in there. I can't come up with one.
Yeah.
But they're in there. They're in there for sure. Let's just talk
about this for one second. But why did they do this?
Well, there's a couple of factors here. One, you have to
remember, the country that does the Nobel Peace Prize is not the
same country that does the Nobel Prize for Literature and
chemistry. And all the rest is a different award altogether. And
it is done out of Norway, as opposed to the Nobel Prizes,
which are done out of Sweden. And Norway, ironically enough,
is not part of the European Union. They stayed out.
Ah, that's interesting. So I
thought that Yeah, I thought that little, like, we're not in
it. But you guys can hear we'll give you an award Shut up. Maybe
they were trying to buy him off or something. I have no idea.
Wow,
interesting. Maybe it was just poking their eye out. It's like,
we're here. We're outside of that whole debacle. I know, I'm
funny. Let's kick sand in their face and give them the Peace
Prize Award.
Right? There's that element does exist in the award system, all
awards system, since I've been a judge in different awards. And
every once in a while there's a political thing that takes place
when you decide between one A or B, which are both deserving. And
you'll pick one, or the group will pick one or somebody will
boss everybody into picking the one that will cause more
controversy, or it will be the one that just throw sand in the
face kind of thing. I mean, there's that does happen. So
what drives me? Can
you give me a specific example? I mean,
yeah, there was a computer press award some time back. And this
was in the 80s. And I was a judge and it was a code judge,
actually, with William William Randolph Hearst, the third. And
I believe was Bill, Willie. So the two of us were picking best
computer magazine. I believe it was a 1985 I think set the
stage. Are you on his yacht? He doesn't have a yacht. He does
get into time he's driving around a Honda Civic. But
anyway, and it was one of those Honda sevens you can find the
old civics if anybody knows this, these old civics they had
a they were all right hand drive because in Japan, they're on the
right hand side of the road. So they make the left hand drive
was special for the United States and other countries. But
the way they did those old civics they still had the gears
for the right hand drive stuff on the in the passenger side. So
there was a little bump at the top of the of the floor panel
that you could push down and stop the car from the driver's
side.
Wait a minute, these cars had they'd have a clutch as well.
No, there was no clutch but yeah, there might have been but
there was the there was the brake that was sticking out
really. So you can just so you could never got in one of these
cars that always feel around for the bump, and then I slam on the
brakes. That would drive that what the hell's wrong with my
car?
Really, this? Okay, so so I'm just like you are full of jokes,
and you'd have
to get a million of them. So anyway, so we came down to Byte
magazine and computer currents, which was a throwaway, free,
newsprint magazine, and we just thought it would be so funny to
go If it's computer currents, as opposed to a magazine, which is
like a big, you know, big fat magazine, this is like a local
local magazine couldn't resist.
Oh, man. And that was that's the only example you have. I'm sure.
I'm just not going to tell you all the examples. throw a brick
through the window somewhere.
So someone's pissed because I didn't get some hokey computer
press award.
Generally speaking, I played it straight, but there was always a
consideration, like, who would get the most benefit from the
award? Do these guys need another award? Wow. You know,
that kind of thing? That's very common. Wow. Now when you're in
meetings, if you're like an editorial system with a you
know, at the top 100 people and you sit around a table,
generally speaking, just the editorial staff, and somebody
they just throw out names and this I think you should be
number 30. Oh, what about sewing sew up? To 15? What about what's
her name? Oh, yeah, let's put her up to number two. But don't
put her number one because she's number one, two. They won't be
good. Let's put somebody else that she hates. Number one.
Okay. But this person
so spiteful or not so spiteful and mean
wow. As what you do when you're in the business so
you think that goes on at the Oscars and the Country Music
Awards and all that stuff?
Yeah, of course. All awards and all this are bull crap. Do you
want 100 Most influencers Come on? I mean, you know, when they
have the meeting that guy says will disappear. Oh, really? This
this guy off? Let's put let's put him number eight and then
put so and so number seven.
I know that even happens with the with what they do the riches
list. I know, I know that they're totally making that up.
Because in Holland, when I actually had a lot of money,
they would put me on a list and I'd be like, he's got 50
million. I'd be like, I wish they were just they just make up
numbers. And then they actually would have the audacity to say,
well, you know, you could always just open your accounting to us
so we can take a look at it for Yeah, cuz I would always I
didn't want to be on your stupid list. I don't have that kind of
money. I never did. But they would just put you on the list
just to you know, to draw you in, I guess. I don't know. You
know, it's all it's all bull crap in general. All prices
bullcrap. The only thing that's not bull crap is this program
right here.
This there's some truth to that. Do you remember the first time
we met John? And I hate to be revealing all this? inside
information hitting Molly. But I think you have to know this
donations
are soaring through the roof as we speak. Because this is this
is information people just don't get. So I think it's very smart.
You did this?
We met in 1993. At CNET
That's correct. And what was the occasion had seen it. But you
were auditioning to be the host of something to tab the main
host, John. By Richard Hart.
No, no. Incorrect. I'm sorry. We were doing it. No, that's
exactly right. No. Incorrect. I'll
do it again. It was the pilot weekend we were shooting the
pilots. I refused the job. Okay. I refused the job because they
weren't they saw you
standing up there reading lines. That was the pilot. It was the
pilot weekend. And by the way, you're a handsome young man.
So what show were you doing?
What was the show? No, they had me doing some. Yeah, we had a
couple of differences
was the name. What was the name of the show? The discussion
show?
Yeah, the discussion?
Was it called?
I don't remember. Because I found
yesterday. In cleaning up we so I did two things yesterday. One
is a very, very unhappy moment on Friday. very unhappy moment.
I did my taxes. Because you know, of course, is it Monday or
Tuesday when you actually have to send the check. Yes. And we
don't get no refunds around here. So I'm sure Mimi does your
taxes. Right? She took care of that for you guys.
That's being finished as we speak essay,
so I did it. unhappy moment. And I'm like, you know, I'm so
pissed off. Why don't I just continue and I'll clean out the
entire garage, which included 10 boxes of crap that were
unceremoniously packed by my ex wife and shipped off to La which
means that literally, imagine a box and just throwing everything
in there just like a dumping trash can.
Sounds exactly my office. Right.
And I cleaned up the studio. And I found the the entire pilot
tape of that whole CNET weekend because that was never
broadcast. That was that way. We were just doing a pilot to sell
to cable stations, because CNET was supposed to be a cable
channel before it became an Internet network. And I have the
pilot of that show that you did.
Really? Can you make a dub for me?
If I could, even if I can even find the machine to play it Um,
you have probably a VHS Matic. No, it's
a VHS. It's just I don't have a VHS player. Oh, I do you have a
VHS player that I think was called? No, but I think it was
called The Insiders or something like that maybe. Yep. And so I
do want to reiterate, they offered me the job. I was doing
it with Dr. Mae Jemison, the astronaut you'll recall,
beautiful black woman. Remember, you don't remember I can
barely remember what time I got up.
And they offered me like some bullcrap salary and 18 million
shares of stock. And I was like, Well, how much? Do you have
outstanding? They wouldn't tell me I'm like, well, then how?
There's no good. It's not good. Tell me how many shares are
outstanding? I don't know what you're giving me. And they want
me to move to San Francisco. Interesting tidbit. I had
registered, I registered for them on the spot that day that
weekend. cnet.com. And I hosted their email for at least six
months.
Because they had that with MTV to
Yeah, well, but MTV I set up a server but this is just like you
I remember telling them Kevin Wendell memory was sitting there
and Halsey minor and I said, Guys, this needs to be a
computer thing. This is this is a this is a whole computer. This
cable thing. Great idea. That's not what your future is. In
fact, do you have a website? No. Okay, we have prodigy. No, no,
no, no look, in fact, I'm not kidding. I used to forward Kevin
Wendell and Halsey minors email to their prodigy account. And I
registered cnet.com on the spot and set up email aliases so that
it would go to their to their prodigy email
again ahead of your time, man, let's with this show.
Look where it got me nowhere.
That's the problem with being that ahead of you. You're too
far ahead.
But that does qualify me as a visionary. Yeah, I
guess. Well, that's interesting. Joining me main host of the
whole network No,
no, that they were offering me a job as a host. I don't know if
it was the main host. I think it was the main host but I said I
wasn't interested because they were gonna pay just not enough
money to move out there. Move my whole family. No security with
his bullcrap fly by night operation. That's some talk
show.
I didn't have much faith in a talk show with some
some good white haired guy who was all grouchy and like this is
good. This is going to fail.
I'm just kidding. Man. I love you. You know that.
wouldn't know what to do without you wouldn't know what to do
without being able to talk with you at least twice a week? I'd
probably be divorced again.
Yeah, it could be but I'll tell you this would plan A into show
clip after this is over. Okay. UK and Russia and the Merchant
Marines. Apparently the Russians want to give some old Merchant
Marines that were in the British Navy, a British merchant
marines, who went all through the icebergs to drop off
supplies and award in the British government. Right?
Mainly because of that one douchebag guy that we keep
pointing out. The Foreign Secretary.
Oh, Hague, William Hague. Yeah. Hey, hey, now.
You can't do it. You can't have the award screw. Yeah. Okay, so
big scandal. And
please, everybody, enjoy your weekend. Remember us as you
think about what you want to spend your valuable assets on if
you felt this program was valuable. dvorak.org/na. I am
here in the capital of the drone Star State Austin, Texas in the
morning, everybody. My name is Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley. And let me look outside
for a second. Yep, still foggy. I'm John C. Dvorak. We
will be back again on Thursday, right here on no agenda.
To definitely fulfill our bubble have certain deaf humming, a
temperature was well, well, below zero. I mean, I was 18
years of age 18 years of age, going up to Russia and enduring
all that power chips and whatever. But we've done it real
good out. Because the job had to be done.
John stories and memories are among the most harrowing of the
war. To the Russians. It was more than just supplies. There
was psychological support, contributing hugely to the war
efforts. That's why in April, the Russian President awarded
the issue of metal to the allies who taken part in the convoy
missions. But Incredibly, the British government's blocking
Russia from rewarding British veterans, for their valor,
veteran of the Arctic convoys in recognition of your outstanding
contribution into our allied corps. operation due to World
War Two, that discretionary medicine is attacked for with by
apparently, unless the British government sanctions it is a non
starter, which I think unforgivable, why
the Foreign Office says it's against the rules in order for
permission to be given for an award to be accepted. There has
to be a specific service to the country concerned. And that
service should have taken place within the previous five years.
Jon's wife says that's ridiculous.
They're all late 80s, early 90s. Some of them What on earth are
they supposed to do over the last five years? They're still
bred men of what they were during the war. It never leaves
them. So why are they being penalized and not being given
this middle? I think it's disgraceful. absolutely
disgraceful.
Turn off your television. Wow. And you can always follow me on
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