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Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, May 14th, 2026.

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This is your award-winning Kimo Nation Media Assassination episode 1868.

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This is no agenda. With pomp and circumstance and broadcasting

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live from the heart of the Texas film country here

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in... Region number six in the morning everybody. I'm Adam

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Curry. And from Refinery Row where we're all watching what's

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going on in China, I'm John C. Dvorak. One was

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Yes, we are. China. Ch-ch-China. Ch-ch-China. China. China, China, China,

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China. Yes, but before we talk about China. I had

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a rather interesting... Oh, you're back. You are back from

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the hinterlands. Yes, the lowlands. The lowlands and get more

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nation there and you have a report. Yes. Always entertaining,

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I might add. Yes. Our re-entry into, well, first of

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all, we had a great time. You know, we hung

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out with Christina and Kevin and we just had fun.

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It was great. And the airport hotel, I have to

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say, got kind of old after a week. Yeah. Yeah.

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Well, they're not the most luxurious of places. They're just

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handy. Well, yeah. I mean, they're business hotels. But we

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were in the hotel a lot because of the shows

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and stuff like that. But the thing that bothered me

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is there was a blueberry in the hallway. Have you

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ever had this where you see a blueberry or something

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on the carpet? You're like, hmm. And then you come

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back in the afternoon, the blueberry's still there. And then

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for the whole week, you're looking at the blueberry. And

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then someone stepped on the blueberry, but it never really

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got cleaned up, the blueberry. That was very disappointing. Oh,

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well, did you report it? No, I did not report

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it. Well, you didn't report it. What do you expect?

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Well, I was waiting to... Hello, War Room Service. You

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dropped a blueberry. I was waiting to see if they

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would vacuum the hallway is just a crazy, crazy example.

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They did not. So we came back via Detroit. Which

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is a b- fine way to go you know you

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can go atlanta minneapolis detroit detroit is a fine way

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to go yeah for a for a transfer actually that

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airport's kind of fascinating because there's a subway system that

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goes in that's inside the airport itself it's more like

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a monorail above it's not it's not a yeah it's

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weird it's over way it's a above way above yeah

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it's above way It's not a subway. It's an above

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way. And we decided to walk. You know, the gate

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73 is a long way away. But upon re-entry... We

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had, we have signed up, this is a typical TINA

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thing, it's like, we're doing global entry. Okay, we got

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global entry and you get your TSA pre-check and all

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that to go with it. So at CBP, and I

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should say as an aside, there's pretty much it's all

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CBP now instead of TSA. That was just, we noticed

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that on the way out. Well, I mean, you know,

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I think that there's still a... CDP, the Canadian District

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Police? No, CBP, the Customs and Border. patrol. Oh, oh.

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Yes. Who are doing most, and you know, everything's kind

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of smooth, but then coming back in, so, you know,

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we always, we don't have to stand in this line.

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We're going to the kiosk. We're going to the global

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entry kiosk. And it's odd because you have a card

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and you got your path. You don't need any of

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that. You just. stand in front of the thing. It

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goes biometrics. Hello. All right. Walk on by. So as

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we're walking up, you still have to go through the

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little port and talk to the dude. He says, Adam

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and Tina Curry. Oh, that's interesting. I didn't expect him

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to. Come on up here, family. Okay. And he's like,

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okay, where were you? What were you doing? Were you

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working over there? No, I was seeing my daughter. She's

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going to have a baby. Oh, that's great. Okay. Bring

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any cash with you? No, no cash. Any fruits, meats,

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vegetables, drugs, anything else we should know? No, nothing. Okay.

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And so we go in and we're waiting for our...

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For our bags. And there were several Customs Border Patrol

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dudes patrolling through kind of the people waiting for their

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bags. And I saw it right away. You know, I'm

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going to try not to look like I was patrolling.

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And boom! Uh, folks, can I see your passports? Okay,

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passports, here you go. the same questions. What are you

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doing? Why are you there? Do you bring any cash?

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Any meats, fruits, vegetables, anything? Any drugs? No? No, no,

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no. Okay. All right. We get our bags. We're walking

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towards the exit. Another dude. Hey folks! So we just

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talked to your colleague. Oh, really? So yeah. said, it

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must be because we look like international diamond smugglers. Is

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that what it is? Why don't you step over here,

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Mr. and Mrs. Curry? Me and my big mouth. So

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you made a snide remark? It was a funny remark.

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I'm like, why are you guys targeting us? Do we

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look like... like international diamond smugglers. Yeah, folks, why don't

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you step over here? And we're going to do a

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little bag check. But what was so obvious... Oh, they

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did a bag check on you then? Yeah, opened everything.

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Ooh, but the, it was so obvious they were looking

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for cash. Okay, do you have any cash on you?

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How much, I said, how much, how much do you

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want? You're looking for cash coming in yes yes why

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i i don't know i said how much cash do

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you want i got 80 bucks here that's all i

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got and they really didn't do a thorough a thorough

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check of the bags at all You know, and they

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were nice and everything, but it was just so odd.

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They kept asking about cash. You got any cash? You

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got cash. And the whole time I'm thinking, I have

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a whole... There must be a... You know what I'm

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thinking? What? There's a counterfeit ring going on in Europe.

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Something must be going on with cash. Yeah, they're looking

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for counterfeit money to bring broad into the country. I

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mean, that's the only thing that makes logical sense. Maybe.

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I mean, and there's... so much to look at in

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my bag. I had my studio with me. No, nothing.

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They didn't ask a question about it, I'm sure. No,

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not a single thing. It was kind of, but so

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it had to be the cash. Meanwhile, I'm thinking, you

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guys are all so old fashioned. I got a Bitcoin

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memorized in my head. I'm walking around with a full

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Bitcoin crossing borders. Didn't mention that, but... Because it is.

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Isn't it just kind of old-fashioned, this whole idea of

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cash? Who smuggles cash across the border anymore? especially into

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the country. Yeah, right? Unless it's counterfeit. Some of the,

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you imagine if I had some of those Trump dollars

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that we got. I snagged you the other day. What

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is this? Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So. uh We

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did have a dinner with Lex and Fariba, his Persian

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wife. Which was interesting. Yeah, it's the lowdown. Well, first

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of all, we had Peking Duck, which is kind of...

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strange to have that in Amsterdam. um And I said,

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you know, so what's the deal? Have you heard from...

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Have you heard from your family? She says, well, like

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once a week, we might get a WhatsApp message and

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they have to do all kinds of. all kinds of

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stuff to, you know, you sometimes get a SIM card,

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you have to find a Wi-Fi signal, it's very, very

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difficult, but... In general, when they get a message, it's

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like everything's okay. Nobody knows what's going on. Nobody. They

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just don't know what's going on. Huh. And, you know,

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and it was kind of fun as we're just talking

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about life in Iran, in Tehran, and life in Iran.

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And I say, yeah, you know, that son of the

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Khomeini guy, he's supposedly gay. And Fariba says, oh, we

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have no idea how many men in Iran are gay.

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What? Oh yeah. She says, you know, you can't hold

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hands with a woman, but you can kiss a man

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on the street. I was like, what? He says, oh

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yeah. There's even cave drawings in Iran of men having

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sex with men. He says, this goes back thousands of

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years. That sounds kind of weird. Yeah, yeah, she said,

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"Bessie." It says that's what it is. You can you

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can make out with it with a dude, but you

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can't hold a woman's hand in Iran on the street.

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And now, on the other hand. She made it very

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clear to me that hijabs have really not been a

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thing in Tehran for a long time. In fact, she

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says, look out the window. She said, look at the

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street here. He says, there are more hijabs in Amsterdam

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than you'll ever see in Tehran, which was kind of

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a double slap. Like, yeah. Because it's true. Man, you

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do not want to go to Amsterdam anymore. There's no

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Dutch people there. That stinks. Yeah, it does stink, really.

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And it must really ruin the bar scene. The bar

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scene. Actually, I have a couple clips about the internet

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blackout in Iran if you want to hear them. Sure.

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Okay. 90 million people. That is how many Iranians have

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been functionally cut off from the global internet since January

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8th, 2026. Not slowed down. Not filtered. cut off. Connectivity

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sitting at 1% of normal levels, according to NetBlocks, the

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digital governance monitor that has been tracking this in real

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time. By March 10th, the total had hit 240 hours

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of blackout since the start of the year. The internet

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monitor marked publicly, calling it one of the most severe

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government-imposed shutdowns on record globally. And that was not even

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the peak. By April 11th, the counter had crossed 1,000

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hours. The ceasefire between Iran, the United States and Israel

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had already been announced three days earlier. on April 8th.

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The guns went quiet, the missiles stopped, and the internet

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stayed off. That is the detail that tells you everything

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you need to know about what this blackout actually is.

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Because this was never about the war. The war was

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the cover story. Over the next few minutes, I'm going

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to show you exact... how Iran built a two-tier information

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system. Who is online while everyone else sits in darkness?

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What the regime told the world out loud about who

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deserves a connection? And why the plan that Filterwatch obtained

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from inside the government makes every other authoritarian I thought

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there was kind of an interesting report because, you know,

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they really did have a whole plan to cut people

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off from the internet. Which I guess could happen anywhere,

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I guess. If you had enough control, I don't know

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about the United States, but I could sur- We certainly

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see it happening in any European country, any EU nation

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state. And here's some of that plan. The technical architecture

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behind all of this is what makes this story genuinely

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different from every previous internet crackdown. Filterwatch, the Iran-focused internet

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monitoring organization, obtained and published... a confidential government plan in

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January 2026. The name of that plan is Absolute Digital

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Isolation. The document describes a deliberate, coordinated, multi-year project to

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transform Iran's internet infrastructure into what it calls a barracks

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internet. Under that system, access to the global web is

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not a default right that gets selectively removed during crises.

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It is a privilege granted only to vetted individuals and

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organisations that pass a security clearance process. Everyone else gets

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the domestic intranet. Everyone else gets state television. Everyone else

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gets what the regime decides they should know. The plan

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is being built on a Huawei-based platform, coordinated by Chinese

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technical partners. Iran International obtained information indicating the project is

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estimated to cost between $700 million and $1 billion, with

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all equipment... from Huawei entering Iran in 24 containers after

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the June 2025 12-day war. President Massoud Pazeshkian visited the

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construction site in March 2025. China's ambassador also paid a

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visit. So, and they have these jamming systems for the

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Starlink. And you literally have internet and internet pro. And

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if you can afford the Internet Pro and you're on

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the list, then you can go outside the country and

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surf the web or do whatever. And somehow WhatsApp once

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in a while gets through. *Clears throat* So. I can

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see it. I can see that as being a Huawei

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system. And they sell it to everybody. Hey, you guys

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want this? You can shut down your people? Well, you

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know, it's a bad sign, but it seems like something

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that other people would be looking at. You're right. The

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EU could do it. Yeah. Anyone could do it. Maybe

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it should be done in some countries. Well, let's be

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honest. You're losing control. Let's be honest. It's not. Not

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like the internet has been a plus for the world,

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has it now? I mean, it expedites things. Yes, yeah,

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it does. But that's about it. It's made our job

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harder. Please just be able to watch C-SPAN. I gotta

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watch all this other crap. It's amazing. Yeah. It's true,

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we had to watch a lot of crap. Did you

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see any of the Hegseth hearings? Everyone moaning and groaning

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about Iran and how much it costs and all of

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this. Yeah, I saw some of it. I think we

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maybe played a couple of clips. This has been going

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on for a while. Yeah. Well, my... I think it

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was. Murkowski? Where's she from again, Murkowski? Alaska. Ugh, what

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is she even doing in D.C.? ? Well, she's the

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one you have to do. Murkowski was. I don't know

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how she, she actually, kind of her appearance changed. She

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was fairly attractive when she was younger. Oh, oh, oh.

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is that she was a Republican representative senator from Alaska.

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and so they decided to primary her years and years

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ago. And so they brought some stiff in there to

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run against her, and they took her off. She wasn't

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a Republican. She couldn't register as an independent. So she

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actually had the statewide write-in vote. You had to write

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her name in the ballot. And she won. You know,

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I'm looking at her, and yeah, she... kind of that

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cute political kind of face. back in the day you

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know what she forgot to moisturize Well, she's got a

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Skeletor-like look now. That's where things went wrong. Ladies, you've

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got to moisturize, particularly if you're doing a lot of

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flying. Please remember these things. So she missed. quotes the

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president, which I thought was just fun to listen to.

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Now, let me turn and say, Secretary Hex says that

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the president has called Medicaid, Medicare, and child care little

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scams and said, quote, we're fighting wars we cannot take.

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care of daycare. Okay. Let's just go back and listen.

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Do you think that's what the president said? Did he

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say these are little seals? It seems unlikely. And I

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actually said to them, I said to Russell, don't send

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any money for daycare because the United States can't take

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care of daycare. That has to be up to a

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state. We can't take care of daycare. We're a big

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country. We have 50 states. We have all these other...

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We can't take care of daycare. You gotta let a

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state take care of daycare, and they should pay for

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it too. They should pay. They have to raise their

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taxes. But they should pay for it. And we could

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lower our taxes a little bit to them to make

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up for it. But it's not possible for us to

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take care of daycare. Medicaid. things, they can do it

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on a state basis. You can't do it on a

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federal. We have to take care of one thing, military

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protection. So that's what he really said. He said the

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states need to take care of it, not the federal

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government. But she twists that, and let's just listen to

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that once again. Now, let me turn and say Secretary

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Hex says that president has called Medicaid, Medicare, and child

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care little scams and said, quote, we're fighting wars. We

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cannot take... care of daycare. Yeah, you see, that's how

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you do it. Ignore all the preamble that he said.

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Just say he said this. I'm just trying to understand

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that. Is it your position? Which is complete positioning because

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this is, you know, a senatorial hearing and it's all

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about the clips and it's all about your little moment.

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And that's what she wanted to get out. And it's

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dishonest. You're asking taxpayers for another half a trillion dollars

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for the war that American families should be forced to.

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give up child care and health coverage. And now she

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now it's like so for your half a trillion dollars

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Hegseth you crazy Christian for your half a trillion dollars

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we have to give up our health care. You can

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have one and a half trillion dollars for this budget.

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Senator, that's not my department. I certainly support this, and

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I also support this. support the president's efforts to find

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and remove fraud wherever possible in the general sense. And

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we do that in our department as well. I'm not

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talking about fraud. I actually asked whether an American family

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should lose their health care or their child care to

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pay for this budget. That is literally what the president

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suggested. Oh man! It's so good. The president has proposed

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a historic $1.5 trillion budget that will defend the nation

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and space, Golden Dome, confront threats like Iran, which previous

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presidents allowed to happen, as Senator Graham pointed out. Previous

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administrations said they wanted to take care of this problem.

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The question in front of this committee, the question in

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front of the American people is what are they being

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asked to give up for this one and a half

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trillion dollars? That's where I was talking about. And lastly,

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Mr. Secretary, your budget request cuts through Trump's ramblings and

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really makes the truth clear that you and the president

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don't value families. As much as you value defense. It's

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such a show. You don't value families. You just like

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war. You're talking to the war guy, first of all.

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She's going to bring value families in. You should have

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thrown back, what do you need daycare for? Because you

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should have the true family structure. Ooh, yeah. If you're

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really bad. You're going to throw it right in her

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face. Yeah, no, he's good. He's not that good. He's

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not that good. President Trump, though, you know, he definitely

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does not care. The war also taking a toll on

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American consumers. Inflation rose last month by 3.8% compared to

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the same period last year. Energy. prices fueling the surge

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with gas up 28.4%. That's one factor driving up prices

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in supermarkets and restaurants. All the lettuces, whether it be

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iceberg, romaine, field greens, they are high. Oranges are high.

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Tomatoes are almost... for over four times what they normally

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cost. Before leaving for China, President Trump said higher prices

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here at home will not influence his negotiations with Iran.

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The only thing that matters when I'm talking about Iran,

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they can't have a nuclear weapon. I don't think about...

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financial situation I don't think about anybody Good work, President.

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That doesn't help his case. That does not help. But

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of course, we have to keep spiking the ball here.

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So we have Patty Murray, Senator. Where's Patty Murray? Another

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one. Another one of these. He's back east. Forgot to

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moisturize. Uh, it takes it a little further. Mr. Secretary,

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the war in Iran has not only cost 13 American

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service member lives, it is also costing American taxpayers dearly.

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Tens of billions of dollars and counting, and that's money

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that could be helping people perhaps get health care. But

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instead, we're paying for bombs dropped in a war that

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American people overwhelmingly... See, you could have had healthcare. We

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also all could have had like a new car, all

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kinds of stuff. But she, oh no, everyone could have

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had healthcare if you stopped dropping bombs. Yeah, yeah, that's

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true. Actually, I take it back. Patty Mercer from Washington

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State. Yeah, she's the idiot from Washington. I should know

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that. Yes, you should. I know that your team testified

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Trump's war with Iran cost $29 billion so far. Trump's

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war with Iran. That is $29 billion blown on a

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war of choice, and that's what it would have cost,

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actually, to save the ACA. By the way, stop. Good

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turn. They've been trying to push the meme war of

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choice. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one They say it

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as a kind of a catchphrase a war of choice

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It hasn't caught on and they they they stopped it

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They started right away with it and then they stopped

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it for a while and they're bringing it back Testified

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Trump's war with Iran cost 29 billion so far That

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is $29 billion blown on a war of choice, and

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that's what it would have cost, actually, to save the

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ACA tax credits. But as my colleagues have already stated,

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what is concerning as well is it seems quite clear

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that that cost estimate is suspiciously low. So this whole...

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you know, um, Healthcare versus... war Somehow that seeped into

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the president's brain. And... And he's using all kinds of

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health care terms. Have you noticed this? No. Oh, check

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this out. It's unbelievably weak, I would say. I would

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call it the weakest. Right now? After reading that piece

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of garbage they sent us, I didn't even finish reading

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it. I said, I'm not going to waste my time

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reading it. I would say it's one of the weakest

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right now. It's on life support. They understand. These are

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all medical people. And so Dr. Oz is standing behind

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him. And he said, oh, the ceasefire is on life

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support. Dr. Oz, life support is not a good thing.

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Do you agree? Diagnostic. I would say the ceasefire is

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on. And then Oz is like, oh, yeah, that's right,

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Mr. President. Massive life support where the doctor walks in

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and says. Sir, your loved one has approximately a 1%

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chance. of living. But they changed their mind because they

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didn't put it in the paper. So when they sent

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us this document that we waited four days for that

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should have taken ten minutes to do, it looked very

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simple. We get that, they guarantee no... nuclear weapons for

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a very long period of time and a couple of

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other minor things but they just can't get there yeah

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so all kinds of medical did you notice how he

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slipped that new thing in there what's the new thing

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No nuclear weapons for a very long period of time

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as opposed to no nuclear weapons. Yes, yeah. Yeah, that's

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definitely on the table. Yeah, so they're obviously going to

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do some deal where they're working on a deal where,

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okay. The moratorium on your doing the... enrichment yeah how

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many years okay ten five ten he says and you

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know they can make the argument what different since they're

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waiting for the 12th imam You know, what difference does

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it make whether you wait another decade or not for

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the 12th e-mom? Come on. Does it make a difference,

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really? That's the art of the deal right there. Hey,

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listen, boys. You're waiting for the 12th e-mom. The guy's

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going to come. He's going to come. He'll come when

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he's ready. That's so funny. funny yeah so um the

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president and his entire crew are in China. This has

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been quite interesting to watch. Do you have any clips

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on the China visit? I don't know if I do.

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I'm kind of... I'm all over the map with clips

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today. But you want to do some China stuff? Because

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I've been noticing a few things. yeah do finish your

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china stuff up well i mean yeah i get trump

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on china this is the prelude on ntd uh trying

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to tease in the whole thing there you go yeah

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good president trump touching down today in beijing for a

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high stakes two-day summit ah The terms, the terms, high

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stakes, high stakes, pomp and circumstance is a lot of

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buzzwords they're using. High stakes. President Trump touching down today

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in Beijing for a high stakes two day summit with

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Xi Jinping as rapid shifts in the global power dynamics

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loom large. Blows to Beijing's key partners in Venezuela. and

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Iran mounting tensions over Tuan, and human rights all expected

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to be on the... Tuan? Tuan? They're in Tuan. What's

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the problem with Tuan? ...key partners in Venezuela and Iran

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mounting tensions over Tuan. You gotta be sitting at home

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watching. This is a Chinese run operation. NTD. Why are

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they saying Tawana? Blows to Beijing's key partners in Venezuela

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and Iran mounting tensions over Tawana and human rights all

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expected to be on the table. NTD's White House correspondent

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Mari Otsu sets the stage for us from the North

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Lawn of the White House. President Trump's arrival in Beijing

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for a major two-day... summit with Chinese Communist Party leader

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Xi Jinping comes against the backdrop of a new world

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order. In January, the ouster of Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro

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dealt a major blow to one of China's key partners

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in the Western Hemisphere. And just weeks later, U.S. strikes

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on Iran hit another regime that's reliant on China, with

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Iran's foreign minister visiting Beijing a week ahead of the

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U.S. President Trump's visit. the strait. We are reopening it.

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So I would urge the Chinese to join us in

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supporting this international operation. There are things moving through the

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UN that China and Russia have blocked. Now, as President

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Trump is in China meeting Xi Jinping for the first

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time since they met in Busan, South Korea last fall,

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talks are expected to go far beyond trade. That's as

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the president has framed tariffs, market access, and the flow

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of fentanyl from China into the U.S. as national security

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issues. And while new trade agreements on U.S. goods like

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soybeans, beef, and other farm products are on the table,

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past deals with the CCP have proved fragile, like the

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October trade truce reached in Busan after months of zero

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U.S. soybean purchases from China. only meeting the 12 million

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ton goal after repeated delays and extensions. The summit also

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coming as Washington challenges China's critical minerals monopoly. Yeah, so

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everybody is spinning this in a certain way, and I'm

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a little mad at myself. If I had heard your

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clip, I never listen to John's clips for everybody listening.

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Because I want to be just as surprised as you

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are. I would have done a supercut of this high

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stakes. Here's the BBC. We start with the superpower summit

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in China. The US President Donald Trump has landed in

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Beijing, where he'll meet the Chinese leader Xi Jinping for

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intensive talks. My colleague in Beijing, Steve Lai, described the

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moments immediately after Mr. Trump's... plane touched down. Mr. Trump,

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thanks BBC. We can see Air Force One just landed

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and taxiing to its stopping position. You can see a

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person in military fatigues there standing alone and solitary in

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the centre of that screen or just to the left

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as we go past it. The plane will, we imagine,

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be turning around. We saw a ladder. as well, getting

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ready to be placed in position for the president and

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his delegation to walk down. And you can see another

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military figure standing as well. China said Mr. Trump's visit

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could be the start of a new chapter in relations

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between the superpowers in a turbulent world. Mr. Trump is

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being treated to a state visit. But significant tensions remain

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between the two countries. And there are a number of

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complex issues the U.S. and Chinese delegations will need to

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navigate. Battles over trade and the fight to dominate strategically

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important technologies like AI mean the two sides will have

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some very difficult conversations ahead of them. So even if

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00:29:23,317 --> 00:29:27,105
this visit seems... friendly with Donald Trump predicting several times

482
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that Xi Jinping will be giving him a big hug.

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There's a lot at stake here. Ah, crap. The other

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00:29:33,175 --> 00:29:35,640
clip has high stakes in it. This ABC clip has

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highs. Everyone has high stakes. With great pomp and pageantry

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in China, rolling out the red carpet. What is pomp?

487
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Huh? Pump. Ask the robot. No, I haven't even fired

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00:29:48,750 --> 00:29:50,815
the robot up. Hold on a second. Where is the

489
00:29:50,875 --> 00:29:54,922
robot? Hello. Pump. All right. Pump and circumstance. What's the

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circumstance? Well, let's ask. There's another. You might as well

491
00:29:57,125 --> 00:30:00,551
just. The whole phrase is idiotic. Explain the etymology of

492
00:30:00,692 --> 00:30:09,781
pump and circumstance. All right. Come on, robot. It got

493
00:30:09,862 --> 00:30:12,669
pump instead of pomp. Oh, here we go. According to

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the book of knowledge, pomp and circumstance originates from Shakespeare's

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play Othello, where in Act 3, Othello speaks the line,

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pride, pomp, and circumstance of glorious war. Oh. Pomp comes

497
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from Latin and French, meaning splendid display or ceremony, while

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00:30:30,489 --> 00:30:34,740
circumstance in its archaic sense meant formal ceremony rather than

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mere conditions. Thus, it has been written. Yes, I didn't

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know that. Well, that was interesting. I had to say

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it's the first time. The robot has provided something that's

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actually interesting. With great pomp and pageantry, China rolling out...

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Oh, now we got pomp and pageantry. They're just doing

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alliteration. That is not from Shakespeare. ...carpet for President Trump.

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300 young people waving Chinese and American flags. Steps behind

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him to... Two of the major tech leaders he brought

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along, Elon Musk and AI chip maker NVIDIA's CEO Jensen

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Wong. Didn't you just love how everyone was going on

509
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for days? Like, well, Jensen Wong's not going, he's not

510
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going, he's not going, he's not going. Oh, he's going.

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Had hoped this trip would reset. U.S. relations with China,

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the world's other economic superpower. The summit had already been

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rescheduled once because of the war in Iran. But the

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war is now in its 10th week, and China, by

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far the largest buyer of Iranian oil, now seeing its

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supply cut off. And while the president claims the war

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won't dominate the agenda, he knows... It looms large. They

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say, they just say stuff. You'll hear them say, everyone

519
00:31:51,797 --> 00:31:54,808
is like, oh, this is tense. It's intense. It's all

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about this. Think. I think Trump is really looking forward

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to it. I think he's happy. He's like... Well, did

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you see Trump's presentation at the table? I have a

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00:32:04,679 --> 00:32:09,087
couple. clips of that yeah Yeah, he's pretty magnanimous. Yeah,

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you remember ARC, America, Russia, China. Against the globalists. I

525
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really think that everyone's on a little party line. A

526
00:32:19,665 --> 00:32:22,974
little call. Hey, Vlad. Hey, G. Hey, Donuts. How you

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00:32:23,015 --> 00:32:25,421
doing? Yeah. And he's got all you. He's got all

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these guys on his side of the table. The Chinese

529
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have just got a bunch of ministers, but he's got,

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you know, he's got, I think Tim Cook is there.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. All these guys that are hot shots

532
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that do business with China. Yeah. Listen, more pump. Musk

533
00:32:41,634 --> 00:32:43,959
has got a Tesla factory there. He's got to be

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there, too. A key story of the day, President Trump

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00:32:46,826 --> 00:32:49,914
meeting with Chinese leader Xi Jinping in Beijing. When we

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get straight over to Eamon Javers, he's on the ground

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in China. Eamon's on the ground! Good morning. Yeah, good

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morning to you, Andrew. You're looking at live pictures now

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of President Trump arriving at the Great Hall of the

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People. This is for the banquet. Remember, it is evening

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here in Beijing, and they have a star-studded cast of

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CEOs and political figures attending this state banquet at the

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Great Hall. We've seen cameras in the room. Elon Musk

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is there, along with a whole host of American CEOs

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as well. The president was greeted by pomp and ceremony

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earlier today. Pomp and ceremony. Pomp and ceremony. Wow, this

547
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is great. Well, the president was greeted by pomp. You

548
00:33:40,821 --> 00:33:43,730
know why they're saying this? They're saying this because, oh,

549
00:33:43,810 --> 00:33:47,223
Trumbulli- cares about is that they suck is to suck

550
00:33:47,265 --> 00:33:51,325
him off. Pump. They just want pump. That's why they're

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saying it. yeah they love that and ceremony earlier today

552
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at that same great hall of the people we saw

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soldiers marching adoring children and of course this handshake which

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was a large part of the reason that President Trump

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traveled halfway around the world to come to Beijing to

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signal friendly relations with the Chinese side. And he hopes

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to cut some significant business deals. Now. There were some

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real interesting firsts. I didn't know this, but it's very

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rare that the Secretary of Defense, or of war as

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we call him, would join. To Beijing for a high

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stakes summit with Chinese leader Xi Jinping. The visit comes

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despite past trade tensions and rivalry between the world's two

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major economies. While President Trump is not being accompanied by

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First Lady Melania Trump, he will be joined by two

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key members of his administration, U.S. Secretary of War Pete

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Hegseth and U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Both visits

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are unusual for different reasons. Hegseth has become the first

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American defense chief in decades to accompany a sitting president

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on a state visit to China. This marks a rare

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break from traditional diplomatic practice. That is kind of interesting.

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Yeah, well, I have a clip here you should play

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because what's most interesting is Rubio is actually banned from

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going to China. That's the second part of my clip,

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but I'm happy to play yours. Oh, okay. It's probably

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a little more elaborate. The Secretary of State is traveling

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with President Trump in Beijing after China sanctioned him back

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in 2020 for introducing bills as a senator targeting the

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Chinese regime's crackdown on political dissidents in Hong Kong and

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slavery camps for Muslim Uyghurs in Xinjiang. Rubio also introduced

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legislation to stop China's forced organ harvesting. of Falun Gong

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practitioners. Human rights are the most distinct differentiation between the

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United States of America and the Chinese Communist Party. The

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Chinese Communist Party is currently conducting a genocide. They do

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forced organ harvesting, which means they pull organs out of

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living people to give it to officials that the Chinese

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Communist Party prefers. Is this Rubio saying this? No, that

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wasn't Rubio. That was just somebody doing an analysis. This

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is NTD again? Yeah, of course. This is unlike any

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regime we've seen for, say, 85 years. You can think

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back and see who else acted like that, Nazi Germany

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and others. And President Trump himself has also vowed to

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bring some of the Chinese regime's... human rights abuses back

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into the spotlight with the imprisonment of political prisoners, such

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as the Hong Kong activist Jimmy Lai and Christian pastor

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Ezra Jin Ming-Ri. They missed the punchline. They missed the

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punchline. Let me see if I can find it for

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you. ...was a vocal critic of China, leading Beijing to

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sanction him twice. So... How is he being allowed entry

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into China? Well, according to reports, Beijing is using a

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linguistic workaround. Rubio's name has been modified on official Chinese

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lists by altering the first syllable of his surname to

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Lu. This will allow authorities to bypass... Wait a minute,

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isn't that how they pronounce his name anyway? Ah, Secretary

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Lubio. Lubio. Mr. Lubio, you're here. It's almost like they're

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writing the jokes for us. Oh, I know what we'll

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do. We can't have Rubio come, but Lubio, Lubio, welcome.

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Legal restrictions without officially lifting any sanctions. Earlier, China also

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indicated that Rubio's past actions would not. block his visits.

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The sanctions talk. Anyway, let me see. You're right. They

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dropped the ball on the punchline. Yeah, it's a great

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punchline. Welcome to China. This is NBC. And here's the

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president exiting the plane now, going to come down those

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steps. Now, listen very carefully. carefully i think the the

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guy comes in here and he's going to tell you

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what what he wants you to hear about how china

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is supposedly thinking about all this but he uses really

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sketchy sources to this particular ceremony that we're going to

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see here um jonathan we had just had janice explain

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to us tomorrow will is really where we'll see a

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lot of that pomp and circumstance when he actually meets

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with Xi Jinping when the two of them are together.

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But walk us through what we're going to see here

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in this moment and just how significant it is the

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president stepping onto Chinese soil. Yeah, I mean, as your

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colleague said, this is the first time we've had a

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U.S. president visiting China in nearly a decade. And President

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Trump was the last one to make this trip back

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in 2017. So this is fairly momentous, just a mere

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fact of the trip actually happening. And it is a

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shift in the overall tenor and vibe for the U.S.-China

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relationship because after that trip in 2017, you of course

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had the trade war. With Washington, between Washington and China,

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and then throughout the Biden administration, whenever there were encounters

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between the two presidents, it was always in third countries,

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right? I think there was a real hesitation on both

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sides to engage in this kind of reciprocal visit, especially

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since the relationship was in such a tense period, right?

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So again, I think this... This really shows a shift,

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and again, almost back to an earlier era in some

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ways, it feels like. Ah, crap, that's not the clip

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I was thinking of. I'm sorry, I dumped out of

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that. This is the second time you did this. Yeah,

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it happens. I got a lot of clips. No, it's

644
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because you're jet-lagged. Yes, that's it. I'm jet lagged. So

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here is a translated version of... Uh, President, uh... Gee's

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speech, just a little bit here, a minute, at the

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big banquet. And I'm listening to this. I'm like, man,

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these guys, they got plans together. This was really nice.

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This is a historic visit. This year marks the start

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of China's... 15th five-year plan for economic and social development.

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The over 1.4 billion people of China join on the

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rich heritage of our over five... Say what? Oh, you

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mean the amount of people? Yeah, the amount of people.

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We know it's bullshit. People of China. Wait, let's go

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back. Here we go. The over 1.4 billion people of

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China join on the rich heritage of our over five...

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for Binan people of China. How many do you think

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it is? What is the latest tally? Well, most people

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are pushing it at 600 million. Wow. But I think

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it's around 800 million. Still a lot of people. Oh,

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yes. Two to three times as many as we have.

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Yeah. The over 1.4 billion people of China. drawing on

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the rich heritage of our over 5,000 year civilization, advancing

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Chinese modernization on all fronts. through high quality development This

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year is also the 250th anniversary of American independence. This

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is nice of them to mention that. After they say,

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hey, we're 5,000 years old, but happy birthday. Happy birthday.

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Of American independence. The over 300 million American people are

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reinvigorating the spirit of patriotism, innovation, and enterprise. Yeah. And

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ushering in a new journey. for the development of the

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United States. The people of China and the United States

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are both great peoples. achieving the great rejuvenation of the

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Chinese nation and making America great again can go hand

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in hand. We can help each other succeed and advance

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the well-being of the people. of the whole world. The

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whole thing. That was nice. Threw a MAGA in there,

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00:41:29,628 --> 00:41:32,058
yeah. Threw a MAGA in there and said, hey, we

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can work together, link arms, grab Russia, we'll fight the

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globalists. Here's our president. As allies in World War II,

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President Franklin Roosevelt's mentions of the brave people of China,

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that's what they were, grew loud cheers in his speeches

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in the United States. Wait a minute, were we friends

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back then with China? Oh yeah, we had the Flying

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Tigers over there fighting the Japanese. We had a lot

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of that. Yeah, the Chinese and us were tight. We

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were the ones that rousted the... Japanese were on the

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side of China. There was all kinds of work arounds,

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work togethers. Yeah. We used our land as a base

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for landing our planes. They were very, let us do

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that. Where did this all go wrong? When did all

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of a sudden they become the big evil China? When

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Mao Zedong, basically, maybe, you know, 49, I think, is

693
00:42:28,261 --> 00:42:31,972
when that began. And when the Kuomintang went over to

694
00:42:32,012 --> 00:42:36,760
Taiwan. Uh... shank i shack you know that kind of

695
00:42:36,780 --> 00:42:38,833
thing yeah that era yeah it's just a couple of

696
00:42:38,893 --> 00:42:42,322
bad dudes By the way. It's actually, you know, then

697
00:42:42,342 --> 00:42:45,429
they became isolationists and it wasn't until Nixon and Kissinger

698
00:42:45,509 --> 00:42:49,036
opened it up that we noticed that these guys have

699
00:42:49,076 --> 00:42:53,685
a lot of interesting capabilities. Overproduction being one of them.

700
00:42:53,706 --> 00:42:56,231
Yeah. And then we shipped everything over there and went,

701
00:42:56,331 --> 00:43:00,319
ah, screw you, America. This is great. ...of the brave...

702
00:43:00,299 --> 00:43:03,846
people of China, that's what they were, drew loud cheers

703
00:43:04,006 --> 00:43:07,794
in his speeches in the United States and everybody loved

704
00:43:07,854 --> 00:43:10,640
what he had to say, just as many Chinese now

705
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:15,590
love basketball and blue jeans, Chinese restaurants in America today

706
00:43:15,710 --> 00:43:19,798
outnumber the five largest fast food chains in the United

707
00:43:19,838 --> 00:43:23,967
States. all combined that's a pretty big statement i'm surprised

708
00:43:24,287 --> 00:43:27,494
surprised wow i didn't hear that one about the chinese

709
00:43:27,654 --> 00:43:32,824
restaurants i'm surprised they're not calling that chinese food young

710
00:43:33,045 --> 00:43:38,776
president trump is racist he's racist he's cracking jokes about

711
00:43:38,816 --> 00:43:43,095
them chinese restaurants And this is the wrap where he

712
00:43:43,135 --> 00:43:45,678
gets the invitation to come and visit us. Right, as

713
00:43:45,718 --> 00:43:50,826
America prepares to celebrate its 250th birthday, President Trump referencing

714
00:43:50,886 --> 00:43:55,172
the past in America's history, talking about U.S.-China relations over

715
00:43:55,232 --> 00:43:58,998
the years, also talking about the present, saying that today's

716
00:43:59,098 --> 00:44:02,965
talks between the two... countries extremely positive and productive and

717
00:44:03,025 --> 00:44:06,492
referencing the future with an invitation to China's president to

718
00:44:06,532 --> 00:44:21,366
visit the White House in September. I was talking about,

719
00:44:21,667 --> 00:44:25,117
he was reading stuff off Twitter. Oh, well, the Chinese

720
00:44:25,157 --> 00:44:28,186
think this, the Chinese think that. Oh, man. Oh, yeah.

721
00:44:28,267 --> 00:44:34,229
I'm pissed about that. yeah maybe this and we had

722
00:44:34,269 --> 00:44:36,158
a trez joins us here managing partner and director of

723
00:44:36,178 --> 00:44:38,911
economic policy at veda partners down there in norlands and

724
00:44:38,972 --> 00:44:42,849
so as they say norlands Henrietta, what are your expectations

725
00:44:43,633 --> 00:44:46,164
and the expectations of the people you talk to about

726
00:44:46,205 --> 00:44:50,817
this coming up summit with President Xi in China? Hey,

727
00:44:50,837 --> 00:44:54,434
guys. My expectations are much like yours, pretty low. I

728
00:44:54,474 --> 00:44:59,819
think Secretary Besson and Ambassador Greer have been planting that.

729
00:44:59,923 --> 00:45:03,068
perception for not just weeks but months now even before

730
00:45:03,108 --> 00:45:06,074
the iran war started they haven't i am really i

731
00:45:06,114 --> 00:45:09,279
would call attention like your previous guests to secretary benson

732
00:45:09,980 --> 00:45:12,845
no they haven't no one's been this is bloomberg who

733
00:45:13,066 --> 00:45:16,311
is the first bloomberg hates trump oh big time i'm

734
00:45:16,331 --> 00:45:19,958
a treasury secretary is going to be leading a delegation

735
00:45:20,018 --> 00:45:23,371
like this since Paulson during the Great Recession for all

736
00:45:23,411 --> 00:45:24,854
of us who remember what that was like and the

737
00:45:24,914 --> 00:45:27,698
coordination that was needed around the globe. So I'm really

738
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:30,943
expecting if any gains are going to be made and

739
00:45:30,984 --> 00:45:33,227
it's not just a, you know, maintenance of the status

740
00:45:33,267 --> 00:45:36,472
quo, I suspect it'll be on the soybean deal that

741
00:45:36,492 --> 00:45:39,978
he reached in 2025. I really, you know, everyone talks

742
00:45:39,998 --> 00:45:44,170
about, oh, soybeans, it'll be about this. No, I think

743
00:45:44,190 --> 00:45:49,064
that's only one topic. And everybody thinks it's Taiwan. I

744
00:45:49,104 --> 00:45:52,017
don't think it's Taiwan. I think the topic is, hey,

745
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,128
Donald, how do we get some of that oil? We

746
00:45:55,209 --> 00:45:58,751
need that oil. What are we doing? Can we fix

747
00:45:58,831 --> 00:46:01,766
the oil? Isn't that the only thing that they care

748
00:46:01,806 --> 00:46:04,981
about at this point? Well, I would think that would

749
00:46:05,001 --> 00:46:07,327
be at the top of the list because China has

750
00:46:07,367 --> 00:46:12,359
to get their... I mean, they suck energy. Yes. I

751
00:46:12,399 --> 00:46:14,324
mean, they do have a lot of coal in China.

752
00:46:14,344 --> 00:46:16,609
That's the one thing they do have people always overlook.

753
00:46:16,970 --> 00:46:19,175
And they have a lot of coal-fired plants that can

754
00:46:19,215 --> 00:46:23,847
keep things going, but they need... They need... They need

755
00:46:23,887 --> 00:46:28,104
oil from Iran. Yeah, and I think they'll still get

756
00:46:28,144 --> 00:46:32,039
it at some kind of discount. But a couple things

757
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:34,149
got to be squared away. Look at my boys here.

758
00:46:34,169 --> 00:46:36,760
I brought all these boys over here. We're going to

759
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,135
let you buy some chips from Jensen. We picked them

760
00:46:40,175 --> 00:46:42,649
up in Alaska. You know, at the last minute, he

761
00:46:42,669 --> 00:46:46,014
was trying to hide. Where's Jensen from? He's Asian. What

762
00:46:46,034 --> 00:46:50,181
are his roots? Is he Korean? Taiwan. Taiwan, really? I

763
00:46:50,201 --> 00:46:52,705
think so, yeah. I found the clip I was looking

764
00:46:52,765 --> 00:46:56,211
for. It's about time. I know. It's a Taiwan bit.

765
00:46:56,231 --> 00:46:58,835
Here we go. As the president makes his way to

766
00:46:58,875 --> 00:47:00,778
the stairs of the Temple of Heaven, I want to

767
00:47:00,818 --> 00:47:03,907
bring in... NBC News Chief White House Correspondent Garrett Haight,

768
00:47:03,928 --> 00:47:06,452
who is in Beijing. And Garrett, as we take a

769
00:47:06,472 --> 00:47:09,758
look at these pictures of the two leaders here after

770
00:47:09,798 --> 00:47:13,505
their meeting, high stakes meeting earlier, we saw the pomp

771
00:47:13,565 --> 00:47:17,031
and circumstance. Oh, she throws high stakes, pomp and circumstance

772
00:47:17,131 --> 00:47:21,239
in one sentence. After their meeting, high stakes meeting earlier,

773
00:47:21,299 --> 00:47:24,927
we saw the pomp and circumstance, the pageantry. The pomp

774
00:47:24,947 --> 00:47:28,636
and circumstance and pageantry. The welcome ceremony and the warm

775
00:47:28,776 --> 00:47:32,144
tone of their remarks at the start of the meeting

776
00:47:32,185 --> 00:47:34,410
before they went behind closed doors. But what's important is

777
00:47:34,811 --> 00:47:38,319
what happened behind those closed doors in those two hours.

778
00:47:40,979 --> 00:47:43,403
Yeah, that's right. And really, we only know about that

779
00:47:43,543 --> 00:47:46,850
behind closed doors portion from Chinese state media at this

780
00:47:46,990 --> 00:47:49,215
point. As you laid out, the Chinese were very quick

781
00:47:49,255 --> 00:47:52,000
to say that they believe Taiwan is the most important

782
00:47:52,060 --> 00:47:56,309
issue between the U.S. and China. So he's watching television

783
00:47:56,369 --> 00:47:59,435
over there, and then he quickly switches to the Chinese

784
00:47:59,515 --> 00:48:01,941
are saying. Notable given the fact that when. President Trump

785
00:48:01,981 --> 00:48:05,331
last met with President Xi. The president said Taiwan did

786
00:48:05,371 --> 00:48:07,999
not come up at all. Clearly not the case today

787
00:48:08,380 --> 00:48:11,007
with Xi warning President Trump that this is an issue

788
00:48:11,048 --> 00:48:15,260
that could ultimately lead to conflict. Xi didn't say anything

789
00:48:15,340 --> 00:48:19,426
of the kind. He did not say that. They're all

790
00:48:19,628 --> 00:48:24,186
parroting the same thing. well, Xi said, Taiwan, no. You

791
00:48:24,226 --> 00:48:27,612
got that off of some television station. The Chinese Ministry

792
00:48:27,652 --> 00:48:30,418
of Foreign Affairs describes the Taiwan issue like this. They

793
00:48:30,478 --> 00:48:33,965
say if the Chinese were arming a U.S. state that

794
00:48:34,045 --> 00:48:37,432
wanted to secede, we wouldn't tolerate that in America. Why

795
00:48:37,492 --> 00:48:41,119
should the Chinese tolerate the U.S. position in providing arms?

796
00:48:41,099 --> 00:48:43,604
Taiwan. Huh? Say what? They're making it up as they

797
00:48:43,644 --> 00:48:46,870
go along. Completely making it up. The Chinese tolerate the

798
00:48:46,890 --> 00:48:49,656
U.S. position in providing arms to Taiwan. It is a

799
00:48:49,736 --> 00:48:54,425
deeply personal issue on the Chinese side. Likewise, another apparent

800
00:48:54,486 --> 00:48:58,614
warning from... Apparent. You hear that? Another apparent warning from

801
00:48:58,654 --> 00:49:03,844
Twitter. ...issue on the Chinese side. Likewise, another apparent warning

802
00:49:03,884 --> 00:49:07,010
from Xi to President Trump, according to Chinese state media,

803
00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:10,417
about trade, reminding President Trump that there are no winners

804
00:49:10,617 --> 00:49:14,004
in a trade war. So we got media people informing

805
00:49:14,084 --> 00:49:16,969
media people, but on the ground, the guy's like, you

806
00:49:17,010 --> 00:49:21,298
love my blue jeans, I love your Chinese restaurants, MAGA

807
00:49:21,318 --> 00:49:25,442
this. working together that i get a very different vibe

808
00:49:25,482 --> 00:49:28,028
than what they want and then they they bring in

809
00:49:28,128 --> 00:49:30,513
yes because you're listening to actually what they're saying and

810
00:49:30,553 --> 00:49:33,981
they're being recorded and yeah that's crazy as opposed to

811
00:49:34,001 --> 00:49:36,647
just making it up that's crazy and then they bring

812
00:49:36,727 --> 00:49:39,974
in this thing so some fairly effusive remarks from president

813
00:49:40,014 --> 00:49:42,920
trump at that bilateral meeting we also saw comments from

814
00:49:43,041 --> 00:49:46,729
Xi Jinping at that meeting. Two warnings for the U.S.

815
00:49:46,749 --> 00:49:50,137
side from Xi Jinping. One was on Taiwan. The Chinese

816
00:49:50,197 --> 00:49:57,017
leaders... Xi never said this. There's two warnings for the

817
00:49:57,137 --> 00:50:00,572
U.S. side from Xi Jinping. One was on Taiwan. The

818
00:50:00,612 --> 00:50:04,145
Chinese leader said that the The Taiwan issue, if the

819
00:50:04,286 --> 00:50:07,776
U.S. doesn't handle it properly, could lead to a dangerous

820
00:50:07,836 --> 00:50:12,430
confrontation. He did not say anything. This is what kills

821
00:50:12,490 --> 00:50:15,578
me. They're making it sound like he said it, but

822
00:50:15,618 --> 00:50:17,945
they didn't. And then here it comes. Between the two

823
00:50:18,025 --> 00:50:22,919
countries, he said Taiwanese independence is not compatible with peace.

824
00:50:22,959 --> 00:50:25,665
in the Strait of Taiwan. So a stern warning there

825
00:50:25,745 --> 00:50:28,753
on the issue of Taiwan and also the Chinese leader

826
00:50:29,214 --> 00:50:34,366
bringing up this concept of the Thucydides trap. The Thucydides

827
00:50:34,506 --> 00:50:42,594
trap. What? Thesodides trap. From some Greek play or something?

828
00:50:42,756 --> 00:50:46,425
Again. They go from pomp and circumstance to Thucydides trap.

829
00:50:46,445 --> 00:50:48,770
Which seems unlikely that the Chinese are going to be

830
00:50:49,491 --> 00:50:53,519
quoting, you know, or referring to some Greek play methodology

831
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:58,449
or some structure. It makes no sense. Let me see.

832
00:50:58,549 --> 00:51:01,675
If this is all Confucius say, that would be different.

833
00:51:01,916 --> 00:51:07,422
Thucydides trap. is the historical pattern of when a rising

834
00:51:07,502 --> 00:51:11,992
power threatens to displace a ruling power, war usually follows.

835
00:51:12,493 --> 00:51:17,103
The phrase comes from the ancient Greek historian Thucydides, who

836
00:51:17,164 --> 00:51:20,110
observed that the rise of... That's not pronounced correctly, by

837
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:24,019
the way, but I can't pronounce it. Thucydides, Thucydides, Thucydides.

838
00:51:23,999 --> 00:51:28,453
Something like that. It's impossible. Who observed that the rise

839
00:51:28,514 --> 00:51:31,523
of Athens and the fear this instilled in Sparta made

840
00:51:31,603 --> 00:51:37,033
war inevitable. You're right. These guys are the Confucius dudes.

841
00:51:37,495 --> 00:51:41,711
They're not going to use this. Okay. No. No way.

842
00:51:41,812 --> 00:51:47,887
No. The concept that the rising power in the world

843
00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:51,314
will always challenge the established power in the world and

844
00:51:51,354 --> 00:51:55,623
that will always lead to a conflict. Xi Jinping raising

845
00:51:55,683 --> 00:51:59,230
that sort of philosophical... When did he raise that? Show

846
00:51:59,250 --> 00:52:02,497
me this. It's a philosophical point. ...to say that this

847
00:52:02,557 --> 00:52:05,363
is one of the great questions of history. Cicero. I

848
00:52:06,745 --> 00:52:09,351
need a break. At two, Brutus. The U.S. and China

849
00:52:09,712 --> 00:52:13,299
managed not to fall into that trap of competition and

850
00:52:13,420 --> 00:52:16,486
conflict and war that we've seen time and time again

851
00:52:16,506 --> 00:52:21,036
throughout history. Okay. Yes. All right. Yeah, and those are

852
00:52:21,076 --> 00:52:25,046
neighboring powers. You know, Spartans and the other guys. Yeah,

853
00:52:25,066 --> 00:52:29,295
a little different. Yeah. Yeah. I think I have another

854
00:52:29,376 --> 00:52:33,262
one here. What is this? What struck me about President

855
00:52:33,282 --> 00:52:35,486
Xi's speech is that he's, a lot of the language

856
00:52:35,546 --> 00:52:41,737
that he uses to describe Chinese aspirations, he's now describing

857
00:52:41,857 --> 00:52:48,009
to American aspirations. This idea of Chinese rejuvenation and making

858
00:52:48,089 --> 00:52:52,177
America great again in order to appeal to his guest.

859
00:52:52,197 --> 00:52:54,342
Let's listen in to President Trump. I want to thank

860
00:52:54,442 --> 00:53:00,153
President Xi, my friend, for this magnificent welcome. And it

861
00:53:00,193 --> 00:53:04,360
really was a magnificent welcome like none other. and for

862
00:53:04,420 --> 00:53:09,291
so graciously hosting us on this very historic state visit.

863
00:53:10,112 --> 00:53:14,421
We had extremely positive and productive conversations and meetings today

864
00:53:14,441 --> 00:53:19,532
with the Chinese delegation earlier, and this evening is another

865
00:53:19,572 --> 00:53:24,827
cherished opportunity to discuss among friends. Some of the things

866
00:53:24,868 --> 00:53:29,823
that we discussed. Today, all good for... the United States

867
00:53:29,903 --> 00:53:31,840
and for China. And it was a great honor to

868
00:53:31,900 --> 00:53:36,514
be with you. Please. Yeah, please. Yeah. Yeah, that's magnanimous.

869
00:53:36,674 --> 00:53:40,970
I see this as very positive. Well, so far. Yeah.

870
00:53:41,612 --> 00:53:44,156
There's a food fight breaks out or something. You know,

871
00:53:44,177 --> 00:53:47,047
and so what? Or, you know, maybe Lubio starts a

872
00:53:47,067 --> 00:53:50,740
problem. Lubio. Hey, Lubio. Lubio is his new name, by

873
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:56,646
the way. President Lubio. Get used to it. You know,

874
00:53:56,666 --> 00:54:00,034
it's like... You know, okay, so if China busts into

875
00:54:00,074 --> 00:54:04,531
Taiwan, can you keep the chips coming, Xi? I mean,

876
00:54:04,551 --> 00:54:11,309
what is really the problem? I don't know. Well, I

877
00:54:11,329 --> 00:54:12,938
mean, this is always going to have to say, you

878
00:54:12,978 --> 00:54:15,029
know, the best bet is to keep the chips coming.

879
00:54:15,732 --> 00:54:18,093
We don't want them doing them. No, but I mean,

880
00:54:18,113 --> 00:54:22,541
but I don't see why, if China wants to... repatriate

881
00:54:22,581 --> 00:54:25,152
Taiwan, we already talk about it like it's part of

882
00:54:25,253 --> 00:54:28,926
China. That's part of the diplomatic discourse. So if they

883
00:54:28,966 --> 00:54:33,918
want Taiwan, I mean, Nancy Pelosi, we're going to defend

884
00:54:33,999 --> 00:54:37,157
Taiwan. I mean, shouldn't we just be like, okay, whatever.

885
00:54:37,197 --> 00:54:41,337
That's fine. The dangerous aspect of this is that Taiwan

886
00:54:41,739 --> 00:54:49,186
is where... tsmc is i know but but wouldn't china

887
00:54:49,247 --> 00:54:51,923
be nuts to say okay no more chips for you

888
00:54:52,663 --> 00:54:56,540
That makes no sense. Well, they do it with their...

889
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,789
They kind of do that kind of leverage with the

890
00:54:58,870 --> 00:55:04,751
rare earths. Well, but we started our... defense What is

891
00:55:04,812 --> 00:55:07,060
it? Defense fund. We have a fund now. Did you

892
00:55:07,100 --> 00:55:12,508
know that? The Rare Earth Fund? Yeah, it's... Yeah, it

893
00:55:12,529 --> 00:55:17,663
has... Done, Jack. Well, no, it just started. It's the,

894
00:55:17,724 --> 00:55:21,394
I forget what it's called. but it's a it's a

895
00:55:21,455 --> 00:55:25,545
defense if you want to do and rare earths, you

896
00:55:25,565 --> 00:55:28,555
can go borrow money cheap from the government, from the

897
00:55:28,876 --> 00:55:33,491
war department. Yeah, we should probably do that. Yeah. Hey,

898
00:55:34,093 --> 00:55:40,568
Lubio. Can we get some cash? *Sigh* anyway well on

899
00:55:40,608 --> 00:55:43,619
the topic I think that's yeah no we've done China

900
00:55:43,691 --> 00:55:46,560
But that does bring me, since there's so much lying

901
00:55:46,661 --> 00:55:51,463
going on. Mm-hmm. The biggest disappointment of my week. Uh-oh.

902
00:55:52,587 --> 00:56:01,793
So, John Kiriakou. He's been great. Yes, I have. I

903
00:56:02,134 --> 00:56:04,490
got some things just in case you didn't. But I'm

904
00:56:04,692 --> 00:56:08,439
very, very curious. I've now concluded he's a pathological liar.

905
00:56:09,083 --> 00:56:12,676
Okay. And it's one of these things I'm kind of

906
00:56:12,736 --> 00:56:16,165
tuned in. I have this thing about pathological liars because

907
00:56:16,205 --> 00:56:18,250
I run into them now and again. It's always good

908
00:56:18,270 --> 00:56:20,756
to spot them as early as you can. The fact

909
00:56:20,796 --> 00:56:24,719
that I missed it. early is annoying to me, but...

910
00:56:24,791 --> 00:56:28,173
I'm going to play what triggered me to think he's

911
00:56:28,234 --> 00:56:32,629
a pathological liar. And then I also did some research

912
00:56:32,749 --> 00:56:36,238
on his being arrested for being a whistleblower. And it

913
00:56:36,298 --> 00:56:41,110
turns out that that's not really what was happening. He

914
00:56:41,170 --> 00:56:46,798
was actually busted for revealing classified information. outing agents. Wait

915
00:56:46,819 --> 00:56:49,265
a minute. So is this kind of like a... My

916
00:56:49,306 --> 00:56:53,768
helicopter was shot down. Yeah, kind of. Who was that

917
00:56:53,828 --> 00:56:58,280
again? Who was it that got fired from NBC? It

918
00:56:59,744 --> 00:57:03,393
was not Peter Jennings. The guy in the middle. The

919
00:57:03,434 --> 00:57:06,630
guy that came after Peter Jennings. an NBC guy because

920
00:57:06,670 --> 00:57:13,110
he got demoted to MSNBC. Yeah, no, not Carrie. Yeah,

921
00:57:13,130 --> 00:57:14,977
John Kerry. That's who it was. No, no, no. It

922
00:57:15,037 --> 00:57:17,606
was a news guy. I know, I know, but I'm

923
00:57:17,646 --> 00:57:20,982
just saying that as a joke. Because he actually looks

924
00:57:21,003 --> 00:57:25,332
like John Kerry. It was, uh... Oh, man. I can't

925
00:57:25,352 --> 00:57:26,994
remember. You know, the chat room I come up with

926
00:57:27,294 --> 00:57:29,838
before we do. No, the troll room is sleeping. They're

927
00:57:29,878 --> 00:57:34,104
like, Jews, Israel. Brian Williams, thank you. Brian Williams, yeah.

928
00:57:34,124 --> 00:57:38,230
Dan OBGYN5, thank you. Let me just read from the

929
00:57:38,270 --> 00:57:44,119
report I developed. Okay. John Kiriakou is not arrested for...

930
00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:49,115
exposing torture itself so much as we're disclosing classified information

931
00:57:49,175 --> 00:57:54,641
about CIA personnel and operations and then lying. Key word

932
00:57:54,701 --> 00:57:58,329
there. To the CIA during the publication's review process for

933
00:57:58,389 --> 00:58:02,510
his book. I read on here. He says the Justice

934
00:58:02,591 --> 00:58:07,310
Department. He admitted disclosing classified information about another CIA employee

935
00:58:07,350 --> 00:58:11,538
and lying in the CIA's publication review board about a

936
00:58:11,698 --> 00:58:16,767
magic box technique while trying to publish his book. And

937
00:58:16,827 --> 00:58:19,252
then when you go to the bottom of the report,

938
00:58:19,332 --> 00:58:21,937
it says the true story is that he was both

939
00:58:21,997 --> 00:58:25,283
a whistleblower on torture. which was true, but he was

940
00:58:25,383 --> 00:58:29,292
a leaker of classified information and the legal case centered

941
00:58:29,332 --> 00:58:33,260
around the latter. And so this brought me to his

942
00:58:33,300 --> 00:58:35,846
stories about when he was in jail and he befriended

943
00:58:35,886 --> 00:58:39,614
the mob and he befriended the Mexican mafia and all

944
00:58:39,654 --> 00:58:42,219
this is a cock and bull story. And it's like...

945
00:58:42,323 --> 00:58:44,648
Then I started thinking about some of the other stuff

946
00:58:44,668 --> 00:58:49,697
he's discussed. Like he has a story about the capture

947
00:58:49,917 --> 00:58:54,585
of Carlos the Jackal and the timeline doesn't match up

948
00:58:54,645 --> 00:58:57,250
when you start looking at it. And everything he says

949
00:58:57,290 --> 00:59:01,677
is like embellishments. And he does the look into the

950
00:59:01,758 --> 00:59:04,473
down and right. thing a lot before he comes up

951
00:59:04,513 --> 00:59:08,879
with his tall tales. Oh, one of those tales. So

952
00:59:08,939 --> 00:59:11,703
I'm just so disappointed, but I have to play two

953
00:59:11,783 --> 00:59:15,088
clips. One of them, which is the triggering clip, and

954
00:59:15,128 --> 00:59:18,412
then the other clip is just a blated lie or

955
00:59:18,993 --> 00:59:23,933
a creation, let's say. Let's call it a creation. that

956
00:59:23,994 --> 00:59:27,282
he does on this another one of these youtuber podcasts

957
00:59:27,322 --> 00:59:30,453
he's on a million of them But here's the here's

958
00:59:30,513 --> 00:59:33,719
the karaoke one. This this is the one that triggered

959
00:59:33,759 --> 00:59:36,485
me to thinking this way. Well, that's interesting because, you

960
00:59:36,505 --> 00:59:40,873
know, when when we look into Epstein and the files

961
00:59:40,953 --> 00:59:43,858
and the emails and all these dumps that recently came

962
00:59:44,039 --> 00:59:46,184
out. You know, there was quite a bit. I don't

963
00:59:46,204 --> 00:59:48,756
know if you had any time to read, like, Whitney

964
00:59:48,796 --> 00:59:54,205
Webb's book. Oh, yeah, Whitney Webb is terrific. Yeah, Whitney's

965
00:59:54,286 --> 01:00:01,918
book was great. It's unbelievable how many people fall for

966
01:00:01,958 --> 01:00:05,522
the Whitney Webb is great bit. So this guy's a

967
01:00:05,582 --> 01:00:09,026
CIA analyst, you know, he's got insights, he's got, knows

968
01:00:09,046 --> 01:00:12,623
the operations and the rest, and he... He goes for

969
01:00:12,663 --> 01:00:16,575
that. Whitney Webb is great. Hey, newsflash. There's a lot

970
01:00:16,635 --> 01:00:20,126
of dumb people in CIA. Newsflash. They're not all like

971
01:00:20,186 --> 01:00:23,476
super spooks, okay? And in fact, the new CIA is

972
01:00:23,516 --> 01:00:27,696
filled with numbnuts. So, here we go. Now, I want

973
01:00:27,736 --> 01:00:30,859
to play this clip and break it down. I mean,

974
01:00:30,939 --> 01:00:34,490
this is... This is a creation and it's wrong from

975
01:00:34,550 --> 01:00:38,101
the get-go in every way possible right to the end.

976
01:00:38,683 --> 01:00:41,892
And he even doubles down on a wrong fact. And

977
01:00:41,932 --> 01:00:45,729
he interrupts the conversation. It wouldn't be so bad if

978
01:00:45,809 --> 01:00:48,754
it was just like in the during the conversation, he

979
01:00:48,794 --> 01:00:51,298
kind of throws this and no, no, no. He stops

980
01:00:51,378 --> 01:00:55,284
the presses so he can tell you this valuable information

981
01:00:55,725 --> 01:00:59,431
about Venezuela, its oil and the whole thing. And it's

982
01:00:59,852 --> 01:01:03,217
all bullshit. Here we go. And if you don't mind,

983
01:01:03,257 --> 01:01:07,000
Jay. Oh, feel free. Just to speak a minute about

984
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:11,068
Venezuela. How does Venezuela fit in or not fit into

985
01:01:11,129 --> 01:01:17,182
this? Venezuela is different. It's separate. Venezuela's oil is so

986
01:01:17,322 --> 01:01:21,952
dirty. It is so high in sulfur. Oh, man, this

987
01:01:22,032 --> 01:01:25,059
is right up your alley. Oh, you must have been

988
01:01:25,079 --> 01:01:30,005
just... cringing listening to this. No kidding. People have to

989
01:01:30,045 --> 01:01:33,573
understand, if anyone wants to know about oil and types

990
01:01:33,653 --> 01:01:38,885
of oil and refinery and mixtures and summer oil and

991
01:01:39,426 --> 01:01:42,473
summer gas and winter, John C. Dvorak is your guy.

992
01:01:42,513 --> 01:01:45,832
Well, it's only because I've worked with him. I worked

993
01:01:45,932 --> 01:01:49,218
as a refinery, just a background, new people. I worked

994
01:01:49,298 --> 01:01:51,542
as a refinery chemist for two years, and then I

995
01:01:51,622 --> 01:01:55,469
became an air pollution inspector with Standard Oil as my

996
01:01:55,509 --> 01:01:59,336
beat for eight years. I have some knowledge about the

997
01:01:59,436 --> 01:02:03,346
business. You have standing. And I have standing and I

998
01:02:03,387 --> 01:02:05,889
do try to keep up. In this case, I like

999
01:02:05,929 --> 01:02:08,272
look at the trades and I say, wait a minute,

1000
01:02:08,593 --> 01:02:10,176
how does this work? How does that work? Is that

1001
01:02:10,376 --> 01:02:12,840
oil daily? What is the trade? There's a bunch of

1002
01:02:12,860 --> 01:02:17,067
them. There's a bunch of trades. Oil daily is like

1003
01:02:17,147 --> 01:02:19,791
typical. I got a new podcast, This Week in Oil.

1004
01:02:19,991 --> 01:02:22,756
I'm telling you. As I was doing this, I ran

1005
01:02:22,816 --> 01:02:25,602
into the fact that I was still like... a decade

1006
01:02:25,663 --> 01:02:29,280
behind on my jet fuel knowledge oh no algae yeah

1007
01:02:29,300 --> 01:02:34,992
because i'm just thinking you know uh JP4, which has

1008
01:02:35,072 --> 01:02:39,545
been discontinued completely. Oh, man. To be replaced by Jet

1009
01:02:39,725 --> 01:02:43,195
A and JP8. A1, yeah. And I didn't, you know,

1010
01:02:43,215 --> 01:02:45,681
I was thinking, oh, jeez, I'm so... thinking these old

1011
01:02:46,202 --> 01:02:48,706
because when i was a chemist i was we used

1012
01:02:48,746 --> 01:02:52,152
to analyze jp the jp4 stream and make sure it

1013
01:02:52,192 --> 01:02:56,600
had enough anti uh freeze agent in it uh yeah

1014
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,566
which is anti-icing agent you had to you iced it

1015
01:03:00,606 --> 01:03:04,668
down you iced the jp4 down to a froze Anyway,

1016
01:03:04,888 --> 01:03:08,134
back to this, okay? Back to this bullshit. This Week

1017
01:03:08,154 --> 01:03:12,581
in Oil with John C. Dvorak. Hey, J. Cal, new

1018
01:03:12,601 --> 01:03:18,331
podcast for you. Venezuela is different. It's separate. Venezuela's oil

1019
01:03:18,371 --> 01:03:24,287
is so dirty. It is so high in sulfur. that

1020
01:03:24,347 --> 01:03:27,573
it can only be refined at specialty refineries where they

1021
01:03:27,593 --> 01:03:32,561
inject tons of chemicals to try to purify it. Even

1022
01:03:32,601 --> 01:03:36,487
still, you can't purify it enough to turn it into

1023
01:03:36,547 --> 01:03:44,748
gasoline, right? Right? Right? And these refineries exist. Right now,

1024
01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:49,561
for the most part, only in South Florida. The Chinese

1025
01:03:49,601 --> 01:03:51,947
built one recently. The Indians built one. But for the

1026
01:03:51,987 --> 01:03:54,574
most part, the only refineries that can handle this really

1027
01:03:54,614 --> 01:03:58,705
dark, heavy oil are in Florida. And the oil is

1028
01:03:58,805 --> 01:04:02,463
used only for home heating oil. So when we talk

1029
01:04:02,504 --> 01:04:06,531
about oil and. international oil and OPEC, of which Venezuela

1030
01:04:06,571 --> 01:04:08,980
is a member, we have to keep Venezuela sort of

1031
01:04:09,081 --> 01:04:11,671
off to the side because it's a different issue from

1032
01:04:11,731 --> 01:04:18,786
a foreign policy perspective. Wow. No mention of China. Really?

1033
01:04:18,987 --> 01:04:21,824
At all? Okay, go. Okay, well let's not mention the

1034
01:04:21,884 --> 01:04:24,892
fact that Corpus Christi, Texas has most of these. Yes.

1035
01:04:25,232 --> 01:04:27,856
Most of these refiners, Texas has most of the refiners

1036
01:04:27,896 --> 01:04:30,720
in the country. Not Florida. Corpus Christi has a dozen

1037
01:04:30,860 --> 01:04:34,825
refiners that handle this oil. Mississippi has the biggest Chevron

1038
01:04:34,865 --> 01:04:39,352
refinery that handles this oil. Louisiana has about a half

1039
01:04:39,432 --> 01:04:44,379
dozen that handle this oil. Florida, Florida, Florida has no

1040
01:04:44,399 --> 01:04:49,921
refineries. refineries whatsoever. It's one of 20 or so states

1041
01:04:49,961 --> 01:04:55,524
that have no refining capability in the entire state. So

1042
01:04:55,584 --> 01:05:01,447
he's talking about Florida. Second, besides that bullshit, second, this

1043
01:05:01,527 --> 01:05:04,619
kind of oil is the most valuable sort of oil.

1044
01:05:05,011 --> 01:05:07,895
It's got the long hydrocarbon chains that can be broken

1045
01:05:07,935 --> 01:05:13,603
down by cokers and fluid catalytic converters, FCCs as they're

1046
01:05:13,643 --> 01:05:17,949
called. And this oil can be made into gasoline, no

1047
01:05:18,009 --> 01:05:21,314
problem. It can be made into kerosene, diesel. And it

1048
01:05:21,394 --> 01:05:24,819
has the advantage, because it's so heavy, of being used.

1049
01:05:24,799 --> 01:05:28,187
for making asphalt, which is most oils can't do. You

1050
01:05:28,228 --> 01:05:32,258
can't make an oil, a light crude, a really light,

1051
01:05:32,298 --> 01:05:36,027
sweet crude. You can't make it into asphalt. You can't

1052
01:05:36,047 --> 01:05:39,335
just boil it down and it turns into asphalt. No,

1053
01:05:39,696 --> 01:05:42,722
you have to have the... the big heavy crudes to

1054
01:05:42,762 --> 01:05:45,764
do all the good stuff and that's what these That's

1055
01:05:45,845 --> 01:05:51,274
why Brent sells for more than West Texas Intermediate on

1056
01:05:51,314 --> 01:05:54,700
the open market. So he doesn't know what he's talking

1057
01:05:54,740 --> 01:05:58,086
about. It's not just used for home heating oil or

1058
01:05:58,126 --> 01:06:02,314
whatever he said. It's just bullshit. It was bullshit from

1059
01:06:02,354 --> 01:06:06,694
the get-go. And the problem with sulfur? Yeah, you do.

1060
01:06:06,835 --> 01:06:09,361
And you don't use a million chemicals, although it can't.

1061
01:06:09,422 --> 01:06:11,928
You can use some chemicals in the front end to

1062
01:06:12,189 --> 01:06:15,036
soften the blow. But generally speaking, it goes into a

1063
01:06:15,056 --> 01:06:18,626
refiner and it's hit with hydrogen, just hydrogen, not a

1064
01:06:18,706 --> 01:06:20,651
bunch of chemicals. Crack it. You got to crack it.

1065
01:06:21,039 --> 01:06:23,300
Well, no, it's not. No, not, no. This is a

1066
01:06:23,361 --> 01:06:27,143
different process. This is hydrogen desulfur. which is a totally

1067
01:06:27,203 --> 01:06:31,311
different process. And it turns the sulfur into H2S gas,

1068
01:06:31,371 --> 01:06:34,398
which is super toxic and kind of a plague on

1069
01:06:34,458 --> 01:06:38,005
most refineries, and then sent to a sulfur plant where

1070
01:06:38,045 --> 01:06:41,232
it's turned into elemental sulfur. Yeah, which is good. And

1071
01:06:41,272 --> 01:06:45,248
by these plants, there are mountains of this sulfur. And

1072
01:06:45,388 --> 01:06:48,275
so he's full of shit, this guy. I love that

1073
01:06:48,295 --> 01:06:51,241
you bring in Venezuela. And yes, it was fun. Stop.

1074
01:06:51,301 --> 01:06:53,406
I can just say something. I need to give you

1075
01:06:53,426 --> 01:06:57,175
some expertise here about Venezuelan oil. It's no good. It's

1076
01:06:57,215 --> 01:07:01,654
just crud. It's no good. But have you noticed? that

1077
01:07:01,755 --> 01:07:05,327
China has been very quiet. They were getting all their

1078
01:07:05,469 --> 01:07:09,444
oil from Venezuela. All of their oil from Iran. I'm

1079
01:07:09,504 --> 01:07:12,642
telling you, this is not about Taiwan. It's not about

1080
01:07:12,843 --> 01:07:18,562
beans. Just soybeans? No. It's like, hey, you know what,

1081
01:07:18,622 --> 01:07:21,713
G? Why don't we give you oil that are nice,

1082
01:07:21,813 --> 01:07:25,449
big, beautiful ships? You don't have to ghost ship in

1083
01:07:25,509 --> 01:07:27,078
the middle of the ocean. We'll just give it to

1084
01:07:27,098 --> 01:07:29,491
you. We'll sell it to you. Best price. It's going

1085
01:07:29,531 --> 01:07:33,684
to be good. What ships got out of Hormuz? Chinese

1086
01:07:33,744 --> 01:07:39,960
ships. Come on. This is a America, Russia, China. Working

1087
01:07:40,001 --> 01:07:44,331
together against the globalist dickheads. Sorry. I just have to

1088
01:07:44,412 --> 01:07:49,448
say it. We'll all circle around Carney. In Ottawa, Obama

1089
01:07:49,488 --> 01:07:55,528
shows up, Soros shows up. Well, we're the new liberal

1090
01:07:55,568 --> 01:07:58,759
world order. We can do it. Rules-based liberal new world

1091
01:07:58,879 --> 01:08:02,246
order. No. These guys, they got it. They get it.

1092
01:08:02,408 --> 01:08:05,015
We're going to work together. I'm going to compete where

1093
01:08:05,035 --> 01:08:06,706
it makes sense, but what we're not going to do

1094
01:08:06,746 --> 01:08:08,457
is I'm not going to be part of that stupid

1095
01:08:08,517 --> 01:08:15,330
system anymore. That's what's happening. So now Kiriakou. *cough* He's

1096
01:08:15,351 --> 01:08:19,638
an op. Now that you play these clips, he may

1097
01:08:19,698 --> 01:08:23,319
just be really stupid and just loves getting on podcasts.

1098
01:08:23,391 --> 01:08:25,499
Does he have another book? He must have another book.

1099
01:08:26,015 --> 01:08:28,402
He came up with, I think he's got three books

1100
01:08:28,443 --> 01:08:33,987
so far. Because he was on, I forget which podcast

1101
01:08:34,007 --> 01:08:38,049
this was. And maybe. And he, by the way, ended

1102
01:08:38,109 --> 01:08:40,844
up on Jesse Waters the other night. So he gets

1103
01:08:40,944 --> 01:08:43,819
around and, oh, it's Kiriakou. I think it's just because...

1104
01:08:43,859 --> 01:08:46,925
cool name. Oh, Kiriakou. He's got a cool name and

1105
01:08:46,985 --> 01:08:49,771
he's got this story he tells about him being a

1106
01:08:49,871 --> 01:08:52,597
whistleblower. And this is why he never got the pardon.

1107
01:08:52,677 --> 01:08:55,322
Oh, by the way, just back to the oil. Mexico

1108
01:08:55,362 --> 01:08:58,348
and Ecuadorian oil is pretty much the same as Venezuelan

1109
01:08:58,448 --> 01:09:03,819
oil and nobody bitches about that stuff. But anyway, Kiriakou's...

1110
01:09:03,891 --> 01:09:06,995
always moaned and groaned about getting a pardon because he's

1111
01:09:07,035 --> 01:09:10,400
this great whistleblower. No, he's not getting a pardon because

1112
01:09:10,420 --> 01:09:14,486
he's not a whistleblower. He was busted for being a

1113
01:09:14,606 --> 01:09:18,251
leaker. And if Trump hates people, anyone that he hates

1114
01:09:18,271 --> 01:09:20,655
the most is a leaker. He hates a leaker. So

1115
01:09:20,675 --> 01:09:23,880
you remember on Sunday, I played a clip. It was

1116
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,073
Sunday, I think it was Sunday or Thursday, from the

1117
01:09:26,173 --> 01:09:28,969
New Yorker guy. And like, oh, Tucker Carlson, he's the

1118
01:09:29,029 --> 01:09:31,463
guy that can do it. He can run against Trump.

1119
01:09:31,979 --> 01:09:38,930
Remember that clip? Oh, hold on a second. gotta grab

1120
01:09:38,971 --> 01:09:44,309
that one You remember it, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So

1121
01:09:44,973 --> 01:09:47,951
when I heard this little ditty, these three little short

1122
01:09:48,011 --> 01:09:52,438
clips from Kuriaka, I'm like... This isn't up. And it

1123
01:09:52,538 --> 01:09:56,131
could be that it's so my initial thinking was this

1124
01:09:56,191 --> 01:09:58,781
is an op. This is a CIA op because there's

1125
01:09:58,801 --> 01:10:01,732
still a lot of CIA, CIA people, no doubt. You

1126
01:10:01,792 --> 01:10:04,479
don't hear Trump talking about the CIA much. He's got

1127
01:10:04,580 --> 01:10:07,144
Ratzenberger sitting there like, you just keep him away from

1128
01:10:07,184 --> 01:10:12,068
me. Ratzenberger, is that his name? Ritzenberger? Ratzenberger? Yeah, Ratzenberger's

1129
01:10:12,088 --> 01:10:16,343
a good name. Ratzenberger. And then Kiriakou does this. If

1130
01:10:16,363 --> 01:10:21,095
you look at the polls... Somebody like Tucker Carlson. Yes.

1131
01:10:21,675 --> 01:10:27,378
has an actual shot. at winning this thing. So, yeah.

1132
01:10:27,398 --> 01:10:29,831
Oh, brother. I spoke to him about this recently. Okay.

1133
01:10:30,315 --> 01:10:32,703
And I love this chick, by the way, on the

1134
01:10:32,763 --> 01:10:36,797
pocket. Yes. Listen, listen. No, by the way, with Kiriakou,

1135
01:10:36,877 --> 01:10:39,767
nobody on any of these podcasts ever pushes back on

1136
01:10:39,887 --> 01:10:43,319
any of the bullshit that he says. She's like, yes.

1137
01:10:43,359 --> 01:10:46,215
Because, you know, obviously, if you're a podcaster, you want

1138
01:10:46,517 --> 01:10:49,614
your podcast president. You want Tucker Carlson to be your

1139
01:10:49,675 --> 01:10:54,846
president. Yes. If you look at the polls... Somebody like

1140
01:10:54,906 --> 01:11:01,016
Tucker Carlson has an actual shot. at winning this thing.

1141
01:11:01,158 --> 01:11:05,988
What poll is he reading? He's just making it up.

1142
01:11:06,089 --> 01:11:09,420
He's a psychological liar. This is great. Listen. So I

1143
01:11:10,463 --> 01:11:15,807
spoke to him about this recently. Okay. And... He professes

1144
01:11:15,868 --> 01:11:22,020
to not be interested. Glenn Greenwald is another popular... writer

1145
01:11:22,091 --> 01:11:28,741
Podcaster, commentator. Commentator? I think Glenn Greenwald would consider himself

1146
01:11:28,801 --> 01:11:31,385
a journalist. I know that Glenn has spoken to him

1147
01:11:31,425 --> 01:11:33,888
as well. Like, you have to run. And I told

1148
01:11:33,908 --> 01:11:36,132
Tucker a week ago, I said, you have to run.

1149
01:11:36,152 --> 01:11:38,675
I doubt that's true. I doubt that's true. No, he's

1150
01:11:38,735 --> 01:11:40,678
lying, of course, but it's fun. Listen. It's like, you

1151
01:11:40,718 --> 01:11:42,942
have to run. And I told Tucker a week ago,

1152
01:11:42,982 --> 01:11:46,409
I said, you have to run and I'm all in.

1153
01:11:46,470 --> 01:11:50,197
And he said, well, no, I'm not a politician, which

1154
01:11:50,257 --> 01:11:52,882
is true, but that's exactly what America wants. They don't

1155
01:11:52,923 --> 01:11:55,708
want a politician. They want someone they can trust. And

1156
01:11:56,049 --> 01:11:58,614
out of everybody that's out there in the chattering class,

1157
01:11:58,915 --> 01:12:02,307
like you. In the chattering class. Ah, that's what we

1158
01:12:02,387 --> 01:12:04,977
are, John. We're in the chattering class. Yeah, well, we're

1159
01:12:04,997 --> 01:12:08,150
chattering. They want someone they can trust. And out of

1160
01:12:08,230 --> 01:12:11,141
everybody that's out there in the chattering class, like you

1161
01:12:11,181 --> 01:12:13,906
and me... He's the one that people trust the most.

1162
01:12:14,810 --> 01:12:20,577
Yes. What? I never said that those words never parted

1163
01:12:20,638 --> 01:12:23,125
my lips. I never said anything like that. Read my

1164
01:12:23,205 --> 01:12:25,992
lips. I never said Trump is the Antichrist ever at

1165
01:12:26,053 --> 01:12:28,960
all. But he goes on our boy Kiriakou. Because he

1166
01:12:29,061 --> 01:12:34,555
says what he believes, even at a significant personal cost.

1167
01:12:36,511 --> 01:12:40,254
He has to have security now. Really? He has to.

1168
01:12:40,415 --> 01:12:43,594
He has to have security. because he's becoming so prominent,

1169
01:12:43,674 --> 01:12:47,064
so important, he's getting threats. And we're in this crazy

1170
01:12:47,144 --> 01:12:49,511
period right now. Three different people have tried to kill

1171
01:12:49,531 --> 01:12:53,302
Donald Trump. Okay, stop. Stop for one second. There is

1172
01:12:53,362 --> 01:12:57,638
a clip going around. of somebody somebody with i guess

1173
01:12:57,658 --> 01:13:01,065
his palace filming it with the camera they caught Tucker

1174
01:13:01,085 --> 01:13:04,316
at the grocery store. It's an old clip. Oh, is

1175
01:13:04,357 --> 01:13:07,469
that an old clip? Very old clip, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

1176
01:13:07,489 --> 01:13:10,521
Yeah. But the guy was harassing him. Yeah. You know,

1177
01:13:10,541 --> 01:13:12,650
Tucker just walked away. I mean, he didn't have security

1178
01:13:12,690 --> 01:13:17,141
with him then. No. This is Kiriakou. He said that

1179
01:13:17,201 --> 01:13:21,332
his family members have received threats. Absolutely. Yeah. If he

1180
01:13:21,372 --> 01:13:24,498
decides to run, it's going to really set his life

1181
01:13:24,558 --> 01:13:27,905
in danger, direct danger. So maybe that's what he's contemplating.

1182
01:13:28,446 --> 01:13:32,533
I think that's exactly what he's contemplating. I think that

1183
01:13:32,694 --> 01:13:37,583
his primary concern is his family, as it should be.

1184
01:13:37,971 --> 01:13:41,549
And I think that he's probably thinking. What do I

1185
01:13:41,611 --> 01:13:44,677
get out of this? I get one headache after another.

1186
01:13:45,302 --> 01:13:49,158
He likes his life. He lives in a beautiful part

1187
01:13:49,198 --> 01:13:52,553
of the country. He's an avid fly fisherman, so he

1188
01:13:52,574 --> 01:13:58,510
can go fishing anytime he wants. Why change that? Is

1189
01:13:58,571 --> 01:14:01,519
it really worth it? So what are you saying? Well,

1190
01:14:01,539 --> 01:14:03,731
I got one more clip. By the way, we know

1191
01:14:03,792 --> 01:14:06,386
that in the winters, in the winter, Tucker goes around

1192
01:14:06,446 --> 01:14:10,393
and has dinner with his friends. Remember that clip? It's

1193
01:14:10,413 --> 01:14:12,333
like, oh, in the winter, I go and have dinner

1194
01:14:12,373 --> 01:14:15,726
parties. I'm having a dinner party in D.C. Okay, with

1195
01:14:15,766 --> 01:14:21,393
that said, you compared... You compared... what might be in

1196
01:14:21,413 --> 01:14:25,999
2028 with Ron Paul and Ross Perot. And I'm going

1197
01:14:26,099 --> 01:14:30,085
to add John Anderson. John Anderson was a liberal Republican

1198
01:14:30,225 --> 01:14:33,930
congressman. No such thing exists anymore. A liberal Republican congressman

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01:14:33,970 --> 01:14:37,355
from Illinois in 1980. He ran against Ronald Reagan and

1200
01:14:37,595 --> 01:14:42,709
Jimmy Carter. And in the end, Reagan got 51%. Carter

1201
01:14:42,749 --> 01:14:48,780
got 41% and Anderson got 7%. Anderson had no money.

1202
01:14:49,061 --> 01:14:52,908
Wow. And he got 7% of the national vote. Well,

1203
01:14:53,349 --> 01:14:57,135
Ron Paul got under 2% when he ran. Ross Perot

1204
01:14:57,216 --> 01:15:01,196
got a good 20%. But he also spent, you know,

1205
01:15:01,257 --> 01:15:04,343
almost a... Ross Perot dropped out. What is he talking

1206
01:15:04,404 --> 01:15:08,519
about? Ross Perot didn't run. Yeah, he dropped out because

1207
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,445
he was being threatened. Yeah, they said, I'm going to

1208
01:15:10,505 --> 01:15:13,293
kill your family and rip their heads off. Uh, okay.

1209
01:15:13,494 --> 01:15:17,772
He ran. Ross Perot got a good 20%. But he

1210
01:15:17,833 --> 01:15:20,340
also spent, you know, almost a... billion dollars out of

1211
01:15:20,381 --> 01:15:24,467
his own pocket. This year could be different. This year

1212
01:15:24,507 --> 01:15:26,743
could be different because if you look at the polls...

1213
01:15:27,771 --> 01:15:32,254
People hate the Uniparty. For all intents and purposes, the

1214
01:15:32,294 --> 01:15:34,642
Democrats and the Republicans are just different sides of the

1215
01:15:34,682 --> 01:15:38,516
same coin. They essentially agree on everything. There are minor

1216
01:15:38,656 --> 01:15:41,335
disagreements. around the edges that they want us to think

1217
01:15:41,376 --> 01:15:46,592
are grave differences and they're not so I have to

1218
01:15:46,653 --> 01:15:50,000
restate my thinking now because I initially thought this now,

1219
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:51,783
I know I know it's an op. We've got the

1220
01:15:51,863 --> 01:15:56,413
New Yorker saying Tucker, Tucker, Tucker, and then Kiriakou. But

1221
01:15:56,473 --> 01:15:59,419
now I think this guy just likes being on podcasts.

1222
01:16:01,475 --> 01:16:04,348
And he'll mimic anything he hears and anything he thinks

1223
01:16:04,428 --> 01:16:06,457
is popular. Yeah, he loves being on podcasts. And he's

1224
01:16:06,598 --> 01:16:11,861
latching on to Tucker's coattails, I guess. Well, he did

1225
01:16:12,466 --> 01:16:16,216
Tucker's show. It was very... Unremarkable. It was one of

1226
01:16:16,256 --> 01:16:19,457
his worst podcasts, I think. He was too starstruck by

1227
01:16:19,517 --> 01:16:25,105
Tucker. his future president. President Tucker. Actually, it's a possibility.

1228
01:16:25,707 --> 01:16:28,553
What? That he was starstruck. Yeah, but not that Tucker

1229
01:16:28,593 --> 01:16:31,820
would ever run or would ever become president. No, it's

1230
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:41,088
dumb. There's too much going on with him. Yeah, so

1231
01:16:41,129 --> 01:16:45,275
that's my very disappointed because I was hoping to turn,

1232
01:16:45,295 --> 01:16:49,242
you know, because he has he slanders people, you know,

1233
01:16:49,262 --> 01:16:53,810
by one person after another. Giuliani thinks should be in

1234
01:16:53,890 --> 01:16:56,374
jail. He goes, he has a whole bunch of and

1235
01:16:56,394 --> 01:16:58,437
I was hoping to make it, you know, kind of

1236
01:16:58,477 --> 01:17:03,988
a. department a segment of the show the Kiriakou slam

1237
01:17:04,350 --> 01:17:08,484
then I realized he's full of shit no good *Sigh*

1238
01:17:08,807 --> 01:17:12,940
Uh, did you see Netanyahu on 60 Minutes? I did

1239
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:17,173
not. I missed it. Oh, this is great. So, clearly,

1240
01:17:17,433 --> 01:17:20,332
Bebe has seen the writing on the wall. the proverbial

1241
01:17:20,412 --> 01:17:23,897
writing on the wall. And he's looking at things and

1242
01:17:23,917 --> 01:17:26,100
going like, man, I got to make a statement, man.

1243
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:28,864
I've got to stop. These kids are, they're killing me.

1244
01:17:28,904 --> 01:17:32,089
They're killing me. They're making me look bad. It's like

1245
01:17:32,109 --> 01:17:34,732
they got the wrong idea about Israel. I have an

1246
01:17:34,913 --> 01:17:38,157
idea. Do you believe it's time for the state of

1247
01:17:38,197 --> 01:17:43,084
Israel to re-examine? and possibly reset its financial relationship? This

1248
01:17:43,165 --> 01:17:47,517
is a scripted question. Meaning what the United States provides

1249
01:17:47,577 --> 01:17:51,609
to Israel on an annual basis. Absolutely. And I've said

1250
01:17:51,649 --> 01:17:54,257
this to President Trump. I've said it to our own

1251
01:17:54,337 --> 01:17:58,631
people. Their jaws dropped, but I said, look. Laughed till?

1252
01:17:58,814 --> 01:18:03,291
Laughed till? *laughs* I've said it to our own people.

1253
01:18:04,447 --> 01:18:07,539
jaws dropped but I said look What do you mean?

1254
01:18:07,801 --> 01:18:11,145
What are you saying? I want to draw down to

1255
01:18:11,286 --> 01:18:15,946
zero. the american financial support the financial component of the

1256
01:18:16,026 --> 01:18:21,872
military cooperation that we have Because we receive $3.8 billion

1257
01:18:21,952 --> 01:18:26,820
a year. And I think that it's time that we

1258
01:18:27,061 --> 01:18:31,267
weaned ourselves from the remaining military support. Can you give

1259
01:18:31,307 --> 01:18:35,033
me a timetable? I said, let's start now and do

1260
01:18:35,073 --> 01:18:37,898
it over the next decade, over the next 10 years.

1261
01:18:37,978 --> 01:18:39,401
But I want to start now. No, I don't want

1262
01:18:39,442 --> 01:18:42,132
to wait. for the next Congress. I want to start

1263
01:18:42,213 --> 01:18:46,991
now. Well, that'll be no good. Then we can't say

1264
01:18:47,031 --> 01:18:50,551
that we give money to Israel anymore. That's so good.

1265
01:18:50,632 --> 01:18:55,199
Can't have that. And then he went into, this is

1266
01:18:55,239 --> 01:18:58,692
his own personal thing, about the cell phones. You know,

1267
01:18:58,933 --> 01:19:00,977
I got no weapons, man. I got no juice. I

1268
01:19:00,997 --> 01:19:03,323
got no social media juice. I got to pay people.

1269
01:19:03,623 --> 01:19:06,049
People got to do stuff. I got to geofence the

1270
01:19:06,129 --> 01:19:08,494
churches. We got to have some good stuff about Israel.

1271
01:19:08,715 --> 01:19:11,621
But I don't seek wars. I've been through them. I've

1272
01:19:11,661 --> 01:19:15,426
been in battle. I've seen friends die in battle. and

1273
01:19:15,446 --> 01:19:19,422
you would reject any characterization. I can't do very much

1274
01:19:19,482 --> 01:19:21,546
of that because you can get into the cell phones

1275
01:19:22,047 --> 01:19:24,412
and you can repeat again and again that I'm a

1276
01:19:24,452 --> 01:19:28,680
warmonger. He says warmonger. It's about him being a warmonger.

1277
01:19:28,861 --> 01:19:31,305
Oh, this is no good. People call me a warmonger.

1278
01:19:31,806 --> 01:19:34,171
And you can repeat again and again that I'm a

1279
01:19:34,211 --> 01:19:39,382
warmonger. Indiscriminate, sometimes used. Yeah, indiscriminate. Discriminating as surgical as

1280
01:19:39,462 --> 01:19:41,486
any army has ever been in history, not only with

1281
01:19:41,526 --> 01:19:43,750
the beepers and not only with those leaders in Iran

1282
01:19:43,790 --> 01:19:45,935
and not only... But in Lebanon and in Gaza. In

1283
01:19:46,055 --> 01:19:48,900
Lebanon and Gaza, yes. We do everything we can to

1284
01:19:48,981 --> 01:19:53,129
avoid it. We've killed 2,000 terrorists now since the beginning

1285
01:19:53,169 --> 01:20:00,630
of the roaring lion, epic fury. We've been very careful

1286
01:20:00,670 --> 01:20:03,699
to target them. But it's, you know, if people say...

1287
01:20:04,055 --> 01:20:07,617
That you're a warmonger. And in the repeated ad nauseum,

1288
01:20:08,099 --> 01:20:11,255
you know, it assumes the cachet of self-evident truth. And

1289
01:20:11,295 --> 01:20:15,671
that's what's happening. You get into their cell phone. You

1290
01:20:15,691 --> 01:20:19,560
get the bots to repeat it. Bots! hero picture there

1291
01:20:19,642 --> 01:20:23,192
of a tragedy. For us in Israel, every civilian death

1292
01:20:23,494 --> 01:20:26,649
is a tragedy. For our enemies, it's a strategy. They

1293
01:20:26,689 --> 01:20:31,609
implant themselves among civilians, you know, so that... They have

1294
01:20:31,649 --> 01:20:33,718
civilian casualties and they can put it on the tube

1295
01:20:34,642 --> 01:20:37,354
or in your cell phone. So yes, I mean, I

1296
01:20:37,395 --> 01:20:42,290
don't know. I mean, Churchill, without cell phones and without

1297
01:20:42,511 --> 01:20:47,399
digital campaigns and farm bots, was labeled... a warmonger in

1298
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,747
the 1930s because he said you have to stand up

1299
01:20:49,868 --> 01:20:52,517
to Hitler. And they accused him of being a warmonger.

1300
01:20:53,019 --> 01:20:55,368
And Hitler didn't even say death to America, death to

1301
01:20:55,428 --> 01:20:58,419
Britain, you know. I think he might have planned it.

1302
01:20:58,399 --> 01:21:01,431
But he didn't say it. Still, they accused him of

1303
01:21:01,491 --> 01:21:03,558
that. And he won the war and lost the re-election.

1304
01:21:04,521 --> 01:21:07,792
A little snipe there. He won the war but lost

1305
01:21:07,813 --> 01:21:10,462
the election. Yeah, BB's fighting for his life here, I

1306
01:21:10,482 --> 01:21:15,635
think. Well yeah, because if he was... Gets tossed out

1307
01:21:15,675 --> 01:21:21,198
of office, which should happen eventually. He gets arrested for

1308
01:21:21,258 --> 01:21:25,966
some corruption charges. The courts are lined up against him.

1309
01:21:26,146 --> 01:21:29,392
That's why he's been trying to prolong the war in

1310
01:21:29,432 --> 01:21:33,739
Iran. Yeah, or anything. We can't stop this war. Trump,

1311
01:21:33,779 --> 01:21:35,663
you can't win this war, man. Then I'm a dead

1312
01:21:35,703 --> 01:21:40,850
man walking. Can't do it. Can't do it. I got

1313
01:21:40,890 --> 01:21:44,056
a couple other things here. There's also the CIA, the

1314
01:21:44,137 --> 01:21:47,859
real whistleblower. showed up in front of Congress to bitch

1315
01:21:47,879 --> 01:21:51,621
and moan about the CIA. Allow me to play the

1316
01:21:51,701 --> 01:22:02,245
setup for you. The setup is... Because the CIA was

1317
01:22:02,306 --> 01:22:06,671
very mad about this guy. Yeah, I would be too

1318
01:22:06,752 --> 01:22:10,521
if I was the CIA. Hold on, let me find

1319
01:22:10,561 --> 01:22:14,539
this. Make it look as though the CIA is... You

1320
01:22:14,559 --> 01:22:16,990
know, what happened was the CIA is now... Well, okay,

1321
01:22:17,011 --> 01:22:19,721
play that right now. Well, go ahead. Well, yeah, my

1322
01:22:19,801 --> 01:22:22,847
thoughts are, you know, the CIA were largely suckered by

1323
01:22:22,867 --> 01:22:25,953
Fauci, who had some, you know, things to say. In

1324
01:22:25,973 --> 01:22:27,957
fact, one of the first clips I play here will

1325
01:22:28,418 --> 01:22:32,526
kind of introduce the idea that, you know, they didn't

1326
01:22:32,546 --> 01:22:35,052
want to hurt China's feelings or there was something that

1327
01:22:35,112 --> 01:22:37,957
was going on that nobody knew about. The whole thing

1328
01:22:37,997 --> 01:22:45,846
was very... When it was all Fauci doing his gain-of-function

1329
01:22:45,886 --> 01:22:49,255
stuff and using a Chinese lab to do it. Mm-hmm.

1330
01:22:49,899 --> 01:22:52,135
You know, it's like, you know, he's covering his own

1331
01:22:52,317 --> 01:22:56,198
ass. This guy, you know. Mimi was bitching about this

1332
01:22:56,238 --> 01:22:59,119
guy. This guy, talk about a guy who was skating.

1333
01:22:59,191 --> 01:23:03,056
You got Rand Paul just going after him from the

1334
01:23:03,137 --> 01:23:06,602
get-go, knowing that he was lying because Rand Paul had

1335
01:23:07,102 --> 01:23:10,567
somebody read him in on what was going on. So

1336
01:23:10,607 --> 01:23:13,652
he's always asking these pointed questions in the hearings to

1337
01:23:13,852 --> 01:23:16,516
Fauci to get him to lie. Lied over and over

1338
01:23:16,556 --> 01:23:18,218
and over again. They're not going to do jack to

1339
01:23:18,378 --> 01:23:22,389
Fauci. Here's the clip about the CIA being mad about

1340
01:23:22,429 --> 01:23:24,513
the whistleblower you have the clips of. And I want

1341
01:23:24,533 --> 01:23:26,356
to give you a little color that we're getting from

1342
01:23:26,396 --> 01:23:29,462
the CIA just now. They are not happy with the

1343
01:23:29,502 --> 01:23:32,207
way this hearing is going down. They are accusing Senator

1344
01:23:32,267 --> 01:23:35,293
Rand Paul and the Senate Homeland Security Committee of, quote,

1345
01:23:35,393 --> 01:23:39,420
acting in bad faith in putting this hearing together. They

1346
01:23:40,001 --> 01:23:51,124
say he hasn't sought any whistleblower protections. They weren't given

1347
01:23:51,184 --> 01:23:53,468
a heads up about this. The committee didn't go through

1348
01:23:53,488 --> 01:24:22,787
the proper channels. Thank you. theater masquerading as a congressional

1349
01:24:22,807 --> 01:24:29,080
hearing. most likely originated from a lab leak and efforts

1350
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:39,687
to undermine that conclusion are disingenuous. told him about that

1351
01:24:39,768 --> 01:24:42,422
CIA statement, told him they're accusing him of operating in

1352
01:24:42,463 --> 01:24:44,755
bad faith. I asked him to respond to that. Here's

1353
01:24:44,775 --> 01:24:47,908
what he said. The CIA says the committee acted in

1354
01:24:47,968 --> 01:24:49,499
bad faith with this hearing. They just sent out a

1355
01:24:49,539 --> 01:24:53,231
statement. Your response to that? You know, I think transparency

1356
01:24:53,331 --> 01:24:57,415
is good. I think we over classify everything. Congress passed

1357
01:24:57,736 --> 01:25:01,458
a law to unanimously declassify all of the COVID information.

1358
01:25:01,498 --> 01:25:03,502
We all want to know the truth. Where did it

1359
01:25:03,562 --> 01:25:06,449
come from? Why has it taken so long for people

1360
01:25:06,469 --> 01:25:09,676
to admit to it? Now almost every agency admits that

1361
01:25:09,716 --> 01:25:12,121
it did come from the lab, but they still haven't

1362
01:25:12,141 --> 01:25:14,927
been forthcoming. There's no reason to have secrets on this.

1363
01:25:15,379 --> 01:25:17,574
We want them to obey the law. The CIA needs

1364
01:25:17,594 --> 01:25:19,222
to obey the law. obey the law and they need

1365
01:25:19,242 --> 01:25:22,749
to reveal the information there you go so cia and

1366
01:25:22,809 --> 01:25:26,236
in fact mad mad in fact he's right to see

1367
01:25:26,256 --> 01:25:28,461
there was a law passed that said you have to

1368
01:25:28,501 --> 01:25:32,990
declassify everything and the cia acted in bad faith yeah

1369
01:25:33,411 --> 01:25:37,141
exactly exactly right So, you know, this is the old,

1370
01:25:37,242 --> 01:25:40,068
you know, you are what I say. I am what

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01:25:40,128 --> 01:25:44,388
I say you are, which is a Dutch phrase. I

1372
01:25:45,252 --> 01:25:46,478
got a new one. Did I ever tell you about

1373
01:25:46,558 --> 01:25:52,684
stront aan de knikker? No. Poop on the marble? on

1374
01:25:52,704 --> 01:25:56,687
the marble someone has dogs poop on the marble this

1375
01:25:56,727 --> 01:25:58,698
is what we would say when you get a whistleblower

1376
01:25:58,739 --> 01:26:00,657
like this for the CIA. You have stront on the

1377
01:26:00,698 --> 01:26:04,529
knicker. There's poop on your marble. And I guess back

1378
01:26:04,569 --> 01:26:06,714
in the day, if you were playing marbles and you

1379
01:26:06,734 --> 01:26:08,859
rolled through some poop, you had poop on the marble.

1380
01:26:09,079 --> 01:26:11,224
That's another fine. Oh, it's poop on the marble, not

1381
01:26:11,284 --> 01:26:13,649
on a marble floor. No, no, on the marble. You're

1382
01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:16,155
playing marbles and then all of a sudden your marble

1383
01:26:16,215 --> 01:26:19,432
runs through poop. You got poop on the marble. Wow.

1384
01:26:19,852 --> 01:26:23,277
I've never played marbles as a kid with poop in

1385
01:26:23,338 --> 01:26:25,361
the area. I try to stay out of the area

1386
01:26:25,401 --> 01:26:27,243
that would have poop. Of the Dutch, you know, they

1387
01:26:27,263 --> 01:26:28,766
used to have a lot of poop around, I guess.

1388
01:26:29,226 --> 01:26:32,551
I guess so. Well, here you go, CIA whistleblower. There's

1389
01:26:32,591 --> 01:26:37,398
the intro one. Next, Republican senators question the CIA whistleblower

1390
01:26:37,418 --> 01:26:42,758
today. over allegations that the intelligence community downplayed evidence supporting

1391
01:26:42,798 --> 01:26:47,544
a COVID-19 lab leak. Lawmakers accused officials of withholding documents

1392
01:26:47,925 --> 01:26:51,450
as well as shaping analysis to avoid blaming China. NTD's

1393
01:26:51,470 --> 01:26:54,755
Chris Bob has more from Washington. Oh, all right. See,

1394
01:26:54,955 --> 01:26:59,585
this is where I disagree. think it had anything to

1395
01:26:59,605 --> 01:27:03,151
do with blaming China. I mean, Trump was calling it

1396
01:27:03,191 --> 01:27:09,341
the Chinese virus. Yeah, right. Racist! He's racist! Yeah, yeah.

1397
01:27:09,361 --> 01:27:11,866
Yeah, the Spanish flu is not racist. The Hong Kong

1398
01:27:11,906 --> 01:27:14,690
flu, you know. We've been through all of that. We

1399
01:27:14,730 --> 01:27:17,395
went through that. But so I don't think it had

1400
01:27:17,455 --> 01:27:20,815
anything to do with blaming China. It was... The fact,

1401
01:27:20,856 --> 01:27:24,079
I still think this is true. It hasn't been discussed.

1402
01:27:25,427 --> 01:27:29,379
I think there are liability issues. For all the dead

1403
01:27:29,440 --> 01:27:31,307
people in the world because of the leak of this

1404
01:27:31,387 --> 01:27:36,608
COVID-19 SARS virus. And it was developed by the United

1405
01:27:36,668 --> 01:27:41,537
States as a weapon or something. Yeah. And Fauci was

1406
01:27:41,598 --> 01:27:45,067
behind it. And along with some other people that he

1407
01:27:45,108 --> 01:27:48,801
worked with as middlemen. I think there's liability issues. I

1408
01:27:48,841 --> 01:27:55,138
think there's lawsuits for death. There should be. And nobody

1409
01:27:55,178 --> 01:27:59,807
wants to look at it from that perspective. anything to

1410
01:27:59,848 --> 01:28:03,862
do with blaming China. They were blaming China anyway, the

1411
01:28:03,922 --> 01:28:07,497
wet market. All these dumb Chinese, they eat pangolins. I

1412
01:28:07,537 --> 01:28:12,086
mean, it's ridiculous. So this was, I still think there's

1413
01:28:12,126 --> 01:28:14,598
a liability issue and I think it needs to be

1414
01:28:14,638 --> 01:28:20,438
explored. We developed a biological weapon. and killed people with

1415
01:28:20,498 --> 01:28:24,988
it. We need, somebody should sue somebody. I'm with you.

1416
01:28:25,128 --> 01:28:28,636
Where is Rob, the constitutional lawyer? We need the suits

1417
01:28:28,716 --> 01:28:30,861
and boots. Okay, here we go. Bring out the suits

1418
01:28:30,941 --> 01:28:34,509
and boots. I'm here today to discuss the COVID cover-up.

1419
01:28:34,790 --> 01:28:38,879
Intelligence community leaders and senior analysts downplayed the possibility that

1420
01:28:38,899 --> 01:28:41,711
the... The COVID pandemic originated as a result of a

1421
01:28:41,811 --> 01:28:45,297
lab incident. Republican Senator Rand Paul at a Senate hearing

1422
01:28:45,377 --> 01:28:50,004
questioning CIA whistleblower James Erdman on how COVID origin assessments

1423
01:28:50,064 --> 01:28:53,649
were shaped. For years, Americans were told to trust the

1424
01:28:53,749 --> 01:28:58,176
experts. So the very scientists that were commissioned to investigate

1425
01:28:58,276 --> 01:29:01,646
COVID were, in some cases, the very scientists who were

1426
01:29:01,686 --> 01:29:06,334
complicit in the origins of the gain-of-function experiments. Erdman also

1427
01:29:06,394 --> 01:29:10,782
described a top-down push inside the CIA over whether COVID

1428
01:29:10,842 --> 01:29:13,587
most likely originated through a lab leak. There was new

1429
01:29:13,627 --> 01:29:17,514
information that came out in 2022. Ten CIA scientists that

1430
01:29:17,554 --> 01:29:19,338
were said, why don't you go ahead and do a

1431
01:29:19,398 --> 01:29:23,031
COVID relook? Eight of the ten were definitely leaning in

1432
01:29:23,111 --> 01:29:26,963
on lab leak. Erdman said management pushed analysts to revisit

1433
01:29:27,043 --> 01:29:30,292
their findings after a new assessment emerged. Six of the

1434
01:29:30,312 --> 01:29:33,823
seven technical experts say, yep, we still think it's a

1435
01:29:33,863 --> 01:29:38,323
lab leak. Management... changed the analytic line senator josh hawley

1436
01:29:38,384 --> 01:29:44,072
questioned why the biden administration released after Congress passed a

1437
01:29:44,132 --> 01:29:49,181
law requiring declassification of COVID origin materials, saying that statements

1438
01:29:49,221 --> 01:29:51,945
in the document were false. They said, number one, that

1439
01:29:52,045 --> 01:29:55,110
nothing that was researched at the Wuhan lab could plausibly

1440
01:29:55,190 --> 01:29:58,976
be a progenitor of SARS-CoV-2. Are those true statements? But

1441
01:29:59,237 --> 01:30:03,605
no, they're not true. screw-ups here in the US, why

1442
01:30:03,645 --> 01:30:06,993
would the US government cover up for the CCP? Erdmann

1443
01:30:07,053 --> 01:30:09,458
said one of the top scientists who did not want

1444
01:30:09,478 --> 01:30:11,783
to go public said to him, nobody wanted the lab

1445
01:30:11,803 --> 01:30:17,085
leak conclusion and I'm concerned that there's... Too many people

1446
01:30:17,165 --> 01:30:22,496
willing to make excuses for China in this. organization for

1447
01:30:22,718 --> 01:30:26,584
the wrong reason. Yeah, I think it's always the cover-up.

1448
01:30:26,765 --> 01:30:28,735
They always screw it up in the cover-up. They're no

1449
01:30:28,795 --> 01:30:32,171
good at it. It's always the same. The cover-up is

1450
01:30:32,232 --> 01:30:36,274
what makes it worse. Yeah, pretty much. And if you

1451
01:30:36,295 --> 01:30:38,053
listen to this guy, you know he's talking. Unless you

1452
01:30:38,113 --> 01:30:40,643
get away with it. But you can't get away with

1453
01:30:40,704 --> 01:30:44,710
it. The guy is... He's talking about Fauci injecting emails

1454
01:30:44,791 --> 01:30:51,207
and then changing the National Intelligence Assessment. The whole thing

1455
01:30:51,288 --> 01:30:55,198
is corrupt and it's full of crud. And the question

1456
01:30:55,218 --> 01:30:59,875
is, will anything come of it? Yeah. You know, my

1457
01:30:59,936 --> 01:31:02,703
take on that is no. No. is always pretty much

1458
01:31:02,723 --> 01:31:07,779
no. Yeah, because Republicans, they have no backbone. They haven't

1459
01:31:07,859 --> 01:31:11,791
got the wherewithal to really... But this isn't a political

1460
01:31:11,852 --> 01:31:16,551
thing. This should be a Department of Justice thing. The

1461
01:31:16,612 --> 01:31:20,922
Republicans can't throw someone in jail. They can only bring,

1462
01:31:20,963 --> 01:31:23,391
they can only... bring light. I know, they do a

1463
01:31:23,451 --> 01:31:26,712
referral and then it dies. Well, that, there you go.

1464
01:31:27,276 --> 01:31:31,456
There you go. It is, however, the season of reveal.

1465
01:31:31,737 --> 01:31:33,983
I mean, we're seeing everything. You've been saying that for

1466
01:31:34,084 --> 01:31:37,814
five years. Well, I didn't say the season of arrests.

1467
01:31:37,954 --> 01:31:41,031
I said the season of a reveal. It's correct. Here

1468
01:31:41,196 --> 01:31:44,566
we go. Senator Ron Johnson said he wanted a bipartisan

1469
01:31:44,646 --> 01:31:48,173
committee like the church committee decades ago to review intelligence

1470
01:31:48,253 --> 01:31:51,299
agencies. But he pointed to the fact that no Democrats

1471
01:31:51,419 --> 01:31:53,684
attended the hearing. It is well past time for us

1472
01:31:53,704 --> 01:31:55,307
to have a church committee. We're not going to get

1473
01:31:55,347 --> 01:31:59,235
bipartisan support for a church committee. There's no curiosity on

1474
01:31:59,255 --> 01:32:02,061
the other side about what's happening inside. the deep state

1475
01:32:02,241 --> 01:32:05,848
senator paul argued there is no reason why scientific arguments

1476
01:32:05,888 --> 01:32:10,938
surrounding covid 19's origin should remain classified reporting from washington

1477
01:32:10,958 --> 01:32:14,986
dc chris bob ntd news yeah let me play there

1478
01:32:15,027 --> 01:32:17,772
wasn't one democrat at the hearing they all bailed they

1479
01:32:17,872 --> 01:32:23,485
all boycotted it why Interesting. All the seats of Democrats

1480
01:32:23,525 --> 01:32:25,671
were empty. So the guy's going to talk about the

1481
01:32:25,752 --> 01:32:28,499
origins of COVID and the Democrats refused to come to

1482
01:32:28,539 --> 01:32:31,408
the meeting? That's the story. That's the story right there.

1483
01:32:31,488 --> 01:32:35,133
Why didn't they do that? They did discuss it a

1484
01:32:35,194 --> 01:32:38,467
little bit here and there, but it was why? I

1485
01:32:38,528 --> 01:32:42,589
mean, it's like, are they CIA? stooges in the Democrat

1486
01:32:42,649 --> 01:32:47,918
Party? Or were they pro-COVID? How about this? Vaxxers. Yes,

1487
01:32:47,998 --> 01:32:54,929
the answer is yes. Pro-COVID, pro-vax, pro-social distancing, pro-grandma. Masking.

1488
01:32:55,089 --> 01:32:59,156
Empty chair at the table, lockdowns. Yes, yes, they were

1489
01:32:59,196 --> 01:33:01,588
definitely pro. Empty chair at the table. Yeah. Here's one

1490
01:33:01,629 --> 01:33:05,153
of the clips from this hearing. And I'll jump to

1491
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:12,189
June 2021. We as the IC at the NIC. That's

1492
01:33:12,269 --> 01:33:16,318
the intelligence community at the National Intelligence Community something or

1493
01:33:16,378 --> 01:33:22,658
other. Happily pursued those recommendations. And In one email, which

1494
01:33:22,758 --> 01:33:27,467
I'll describe to you, The person in charge of leading

1495
01:33:27,547 --> 01:33:31,436
the 90-day study, you know, he introduced himself to the

1496
01:33:31,476 --> 01:33:36,006
community on what they were supposed to be doing. And

1497
01:33:36,086 --> 01:33:40,236
then the community said, he said, listen, we've got these

1498
01:33:40,316 --> 01:33:44,568
people we should be talking to. And another very senior

1499
01:33:44,628 --> 01:33:47,260
NIC officer sent a direct email to him saying, hey,

1500
01:33:47,702 --> 01:33:51,236
considering that Dr. Fauci is a public health expert. Are

1501
01:33:51,276 --> 01:33:55,597
you sure we should be relying on this? Shouldn't we

1502
01:33:55,677 --> 01:33:59,884
have a separate set? And in this instance, the individual

1503
01:33:59,944 --> 01:34:04,022
responded, no. In this case. Dr. Anthony Fauci is a

1504
01:34:04,263 --> 01:34:09,043
subject matter expert. However, that's directly contradicting his public testimony

1505
01:34:09,083 --> 01:34:10,568
of being a subject matter expert. Part of the job

1506
01:34:10,628 --> 01:34:14,860
in intelligence when you interview someone is assessing their truthfulness,

1507
01:34:15,020 --> 01:34:20,054
their potential biases or conflicts of interest. Did anyone ever

1508
01:34:20,115 --> 01:34:22,989
bring up that Anthony Fauci... proved the research that went

1509
01:34:23,049 --> 01:34:25,273
on in Wuhan and that it might not be in

1510
01:34:25,333 --> 01:34:27,757
his interest for the conclusion to be that it came

1511
01:34:27,797 --> 01:34:30,060
from a lab that he had funded, that there might

1512
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:32,845
be a conflict. Did anybody ever bring up that he

1513
01:34:32,945 --> 01:34:36,591
might not be an objective witness? That was one example

1514
01:34:36,631 --> 01:34:38,514
of an email. No one laid it out quite that

1515
01:34:38,594 --> 01:34:41,398
clearly. You're piecing it together. We were piecing it together

1516
01:34:41,438 --> 01:34:46,508
from... multiple emails from multiple agencies, multiple documents. It was

1517
01:34:47,249 --> 01:34:51,158
more subtle than that. Nobody said, this is happening. And

1518
01:34:51,218 --> 01:34:54,345
unfortunately, I think they probably should have. It was all

1519
01:34:54,425 --> 01:34:57,070
out there. There's about five clips that I have. You'll

1520
01:34:57,090 --> 01:34:58,433
find them in the show notes if you want to

1521
01:34:58,493 --> 01:35:01,588
listen to it. It was a very interesting testimony. Nothing

1522
01:35:01,628 --> 01:35:04,372
we didn't know already, but it was nice to hear

1523
01:35:04,412 --> 01:35:07,377
it. We might as well, since we're in the COVID

1524
01:35:07,477 --> 01:35:11,023
vibe, we might as well just check in with the

1525
01:35:11,083 --> 01:35:15,250
Hantavirus. There are now 11 confirmed cases from the Hantavirus

1526
01:35:15,330 --> 01:35:18,175
outbreak on that cruise ship, which has killed three people

1527
01:35:18,235 --> 01:35:21,433
now. And the World Health Organization says... All the infected

1528
01:35:21,473 --> 01:35:25,403
are either passengers or crew from... What they never mention

1529
01:35:25,443 --> 01:35:28,912
here on CNN is what the World Health Organization says,

1530
01:35:29,192 --> 01:35:32,872
which America no longer is a part of. We no

1531
01:35:32,953 --> 01:35:35,742
longer are a part of the World Health Organization or

1532
01:35:35,762 --> 01:35:40,056
60 plus other globalist organizations. We're not a part of

1533
01:35:40,096 --> 01:35:42,659
that, so it doesn't matter. count anymore. And the World

1534
01:35:42,679 --> 01:35:46,287
Health Organization says all the infected are either passengers or

1535
01:35:46,367 --> 01:35:49,294
crew from the MV Hondias. In the meantime, at least

1536
01:35:49,314 --> 01:35:52,561
29 Americans who are on the ship are under monitoring

1537
01:35:52,702 --> 01:35:55,989
across multiple U.S. states. 16 of them are in a

1538
01:35:56,049 --> 01:36:00,401
special facility in Nebraska, including Jake Rosemarin. He spoke... to

1539
01:36:00,502 --> 01:36:05,732
NBC today about his life under quarantine. I do not

1540
01:36:05,793 --> 01:36:08,137
have the virus. I'm well. I have no symptoms. I

1541
01:36:08,177 --> 01:36:11,523
feel good, and I'm in good spirits right now. Everything's

1542
01:36:11,563 --> 01:36:15,770
fine, but that's not how media works. And luckily, I'm

1543
01:36:15,850 --> 01:36:19,316
pretty sure the American people won't fall for it anymore,

1544
01:36:19,416 --> 01:36:22,162
although, man, it was wall... to wall coverage in the

1545
01:36:22,182 --> 01:36:26,029
Netherlands, every talk show, all the same people pop up

1546
01:36:26,089 --> 01:36:29,396
again. Oh, I can go on TV. Wait, let me

1547
01:36:29,476 --> 01:36:33,124
get my scarf. We bring in former White House Coronavirus

1548
01:36:33,204 --> 01:36:36,691
Response Coordinator, Dr. Deborah Birx. Dr. Birx, thank you so

1549
01:36:36,711 --> 01:36:39,076
much for being here, helping us shine a light on

1550
01:36:39,136 --> 01:36:42,552
what's going on. Shine a light. concerns hopefully. Good to

1551
01:36:42,592 --> 01:36:44,716
be with you, Alex. All right. So some fear that

1552
01:36:44,736 --> 01:36:47,421
this hantavirus outbreak on this cruise ship could lead to

1553
01:36:47,481 --> 01:36:50,847
another worldwide pandemic, if not properly contained, similar to what

1554
01:36:51,208 --> 01:36:54,734
you dealt with. Oh, brother. Coronavirus pandemic. Do you believe

1555
01:36:54,754 --> 01:36:57,560
the world is seeing the early stages of yet another

1556
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:02,245
pandemic? Are we here again? No, it's... not contagious like

1557
01:37:02,326 --> 01:37:04,750
COVID. And we have a lot of experience with the

1558
01:37:04,810 --> 01:37:08,236
virus, so we actually know how this virus works and

1559
01:37:08,276 --> 01:37:10,601
how it affects people. I think one thing that we

1560
01:37:10,701 --> 01:37:12,905
want to do, and we're not really talking about it,

1561
01:37:13,005 --> 01:37:15,670
is decrease the anxiety of all the passengers on that

1562
01:37:15,750 --> 01:37:18,014
ship. And the way to do it is to do

1563
01:37:18,094 --> 01:37:22,113
a PCR test. Yay! Wow. any of that RNA from

1564
01:37:22,133 --> 01:37:25,718
that virus in your bloodstream. That is much earlier than

1565
01:37:25,838 --> 01:37:30,044
symptoms, much earlier than the classic immune responses that have

1566
01:37:30,084 --> 01:37:33,189
been measured. So we want to reassure those passengers, and

1567
01:37:33,229 --> 01:37:35,632
I think that's the quickest way to just ask them

1568
01:37:35,672 --> 01:37:39,117
to get that blood test weekly through those 40 days

1569
01:37:39,217 --> 01:37:42,383
and really decrease the anxiety. that they have, both the

1570
01:37:42,463 --> 01:37:44,707
ones that are coming off the ship tomorrow and the

1571
01:37:44,827 --> 01:37:47,473
ones that left a ship early that are distributed around

1572
01:37:47,493 --> 01:37:50,078
the world. What blood tests? What happened to the swab

1573
01:37:50,138 --> 01:37:53,284
up your nose? What is this blood PCR? We just

1574
01:37:53,705 --> 01:37:56,471
stuck a thing up your nose and swirled it around

1575
01:37:56,531 --> 01:37:59,277
like, oh, you got COVID. Oh, I'm sorry. But she's

1576
01:37:59,337 --> 01:38:02,423
not stopping. Oh, no. She's ready for bear. Why is

1577
01:38:02,463 --> 01:38:05,910
she even on? Why? Because this is what the media

1578
01:38:05,950 --> 01:38:09,116
does. Yeah, it's interesting because this is ringing a bell

1579
01:38:09,156 --> 01:38:11,701
to what we reported not all that long ago with

1580
01:38:11,741 --> 01:38:14,687
Gene Hackman and his wife. If I'm not mistaken, this

1581
01:38:14,707 --> 01:38:17,954
is the... Yes, yes, yes. She says yes, yes, yes.

1582
01:38:18,134 --> 01:38:20,298
She died from it, yes. Long ago with Gene Hackman

1583
01:38:20,359 --> 01:38:22,823
and his... wife if I'm not mistaken this is the

1584
01:38:22,884 --> 01:38:27,933
exact same virus that they she wasn't on the ship

1585
01:38:27,994 --> 01:38:31,200
and she died yes died from so is that just

1586
01:38:31,541 --> 01:38:33,985
a coincidence that we're just hearing more about this is

1587
01:38:34,166 --> 01:38:38,354
there any evidence to suggest that maybe this particular violent

1588
01:38:38,514 --> 01:38:44,386
virus is proliferating across our Oh, that's it. proliferating. Well,

1589
01:38:44,566 --> 01:38:47,573
this is a very important stop. Who is this guy?

1590
01:38:47,613 --> 01:38:53,306
He's News Nation. News Nation. Oh, brother. He's good. You

1591
01:38:53,386 --> 01:38:57,907
raised. Oh, wait. We got another laugh tale standby. Well,

1592
01:38:57,927 --> 01:39:02,624
this is a very important concept. you raise because someone

1593
01:39:02,705 --> 01:39:08,035
died particular violent virus is proliferating across our world our

1594
01:39:08,075 --> 01:39:12,484
country yes yes well this is a very important concept

1595
01:39:12,504 --> 01:39:15,671
you raise so there's a question about whether um warmer

1596
01:39:15,771 --> 01:39:18,997
or colder changes in the weather are increasing the amount

1597
01:39:19,098 --> 01:39:22,382
of mice that Come inside the cabins and... Mice? What

1598
01:39:22,403 --> 01:39:26,411
happened to rats? I'm so confused. Is it rats or

1599
01:39:26,491 --> 01:39:28,922
mice? And now she says mice. It's actually both, but

1600
01:39:28,962 --> 01:39:31,714
you know. Well, it makes a difference. I got mice

1601
01:39:31,795 --> 01:39:33,462
in my house. I don't have rats. I got mice.

1602
01:39:33,663 --> 01:39:37,437
You got mice? Get rid of them. Well, we had

1603
01:39:37,478 --> 01:39:41,922
mice. I'm an expert trapper. I love the old school

1604
01:39:42,003 --> 01:39:45,286
traps. I put a nice little bit of Merlot infused

1605
01:39:45,407 --> 01:39:48,594
cheese on that thing. And you can hear it. You

1606
01:39:48,614 --> 01:39:51,472
know, you see it. They also like chocolate. Oh, really?

1607
01:39:51,923 --> 01:39:55,801
Yeah, mice love chocolate. Oh, I always use cheese. And

1608
01:39:55,821 --> 01:39:57,930
it stinks more, so they can smell it farther away.

1609
01:39:57,951 --> 01:40:00,325
Although if you have a stinky cheese, they probably... attracted

1610
01:40:00,345 --> 01:40:02,427
to that. And you know, and I love you. I

1611
01:40:02,447 --> 01:40:06,087
use glue traps mostly. Now, I find those to be

1612
01:40:06,147 --> 01:40:07,591
cruel. I'll tell you why. Let me tell you. It's

1613
01:40:07,651 --> 01:40:10,157
cruel. You got the mouse. He's stuck on a glue

1614
01:40:10,197 --> 01:40:13,906
trap. He starts to make noises. You take another glue

1615
01:40:13,946 --> 01:40:15,610
trap and push it on top of the mouse and

1616
01:40:15,630 --> 01:40:18,617
you push down and listen to the moan. It's quite

1617
01:40:19,098 --> 01:40:25,373
remarkable. Did you used to stick firecrackers into frogs' butts

1618
01:40:25,453 --> 01:40:28,240
as a kid? No, of course not. It's just mice

1619
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:31,528
I don't like. I love dogs and cats. I love

1620
01:40:31,548 --> 01:40:36,441
when you're sitting watching TV and you hear the... And

1621
01:40:36,461 --> 01:40:39,016
then you know. Oh, yeah. Well, you got that thing

1622
01:40:39,057 --> 01:40:41,363
in the. family room what kind of mice problem do

1623
01:40:41,383 --> 01:40:44,730
you have no we have it in the laundry room

1624
01:40:44,810 --> 01:40:47,916
because there's uh there's holes in the laundry room you

1625
01:40:47,976 --> 01:40:49,820
know yeah they find ways to get in but you

1626
01:40:49,860 --> 01:40:52,245
know he's dead right away it's not like he's not

1627
01:40:52,285 --> 01:40:54,950
like squirming and you have to put another glue you're

1628
01:40:54,990 --> 01:40:58,998
you're a sadist you're a horrible man increasing the amount

1629
01:40:59,078 --> 01:41:02,224
of mice that come inside to cabins and to households,

1630
01:41:02,645 --> 01:41:05,611
and then you get exposed by cleaning that up. We've

1631
01:41:05,792 --> 01:41:08,878
always had hantavirus in the United States, not the same

1632
01:41:08,978 --> 01:41:12,786
strain as Andes and the Andes virus that's in Chile

1633
01:41:12,826 --> 01:41:16,313
and Argentina, but very similar. And so we've always had

1634
01:41:16,373 --> 01:41:18,918
the problem from mice. I think this is the first

1635
01:41:18,998 --> 01:41:22,375
time. beyond the reports from Argentina and Chile of really

1636
01:41:22,435 --> 01:41:24,879
a human to human outbreak. And it does give us

1637
01:41:25,019 --> 01:41:27,883
a chance to study whether there has been what you

1638
01:41:27,923 --> 01:41:31,008
described, molecular changes in the virus that makes it more

1639
01:41:31,088 --> 01:41:34,132
contagious. And they'll be doing all of that. They're sequencing

1640
01:41:34,332 --> 01:41:37,898
all of these strains. Gain of function. Listen, they're sequencing

1641
01:41:37,958 --> 01:41:41,200
all these. She is working it. Changes in the virus

1642
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:44,047
that makes it more contagious. And they'll be doing all

1643
01:41:44,087 --> 01:41:46,673
of that. They're sequencing all of these strains. Yeah, they're

1644
01:41:46,693 --> 01:41:49,198
doing that at Fort Detrick right now. We're sequencing all

1645
01:41:49,239 --> 01:41:51,584
these strains. We got to get Trump out of the

1646
01:41:51,644 --> 01:41:54,009
White House. Let's do another pandemic. Let's do whatever we

1647
01:41:54,050 --> 01:41:56,696
can, people. Chance to study whether there has been what

1648
01:41:56,736 --> 01:41:59,622
you described, molecular change. changes in the virus that makes

1649
01:41:59,722 --> 01:42:02,287
it more contagious. And they'll be doing all of that.

1650
01:42:02,307 --> 01:42:04,231
They're sequencing all of these. They'll be doing it at

1651
01:42:04,271 --> 01:42:07,056
Fort Detrick. Yes, for sure. That's exactly what she's saying.

1652
01:42:07,457 --> 01:42:09,762
And the world is really working together. And that's the

1653
01:42:09,822 --> 01:42:13,449
other important thing. The world is working together. We are

1654
01:42:13,529 --> 01:42:17,737
the world. We're working together. Go back to the World

1655
01:42:17,777 --> 01:42:21,324
Health Organization. all of these strains. And the world is

1656
01:42:21,384 --> 01:42:24,150
really working together. And that's the other important thing. The

1657
01:42:24,190 --> 01:42:27,316
world has worked together both to protect those individuals on

1658
01:42:27,376 --> 01:42:30,823
the ship and the communities as they disembark. The world

1659
01:42:30,883 --> 01:42:33,388
is not working together to protect the people on the

1660
01:42:33,428 --> 01:42:36,314
ship. But hey, something very important is going down here.

1661
01:42:36,555 --> 01:42:40,863
This is the Andes. Andes. variant of the hantavirus. And

1662
01:42:41,064 --> 01:42:43,829
yes, it's different. So the Andes strain is the only

1663
01:42:43,889 --> 01:42:46,895
strain where we have mapped human to human transmission. And

1664
01:42:47,296 --> 01:42:50,523
I caution people because when we say human to human

1665
01:42:50,563 --> 01:42:54,010
transmission, we're talking about people who develop symptoms. But because

1666
01:42:54,050 --> 01:43:02,687
we're not testing... We're talking about people who develop symptoms.

1667
01:43:02,788 --> 01:43:07,678
But because we're not testing populations with RNAs, we don't

1668
01:43:07,738 --> 01:43:11,245
really know whether there are subclinical cases. So there could

1669
01:43:11,305 --> 01:43:15,174
be more human-to-human transmission than we actually see. It's never

1670
01:43:15,314 --> 01:43:19,133
good to track viruses through symptoms. We should be tracking

1671
01:43:19,173 --> 01:43:23,301
viruses through blood tests like PCR. We've learned that with

1672
01:43:23,321 --> 01:43:28,451
COVID. Extraordinarily helpful. Many universities were able to open and

1673
01:43:28,491 --> 01:43:32,358
schools were able to open because they provided weekly testing

1674
01:43:32,418 --> 01:43:34,762
and it really prevented spread. So we know how to

1675
01:43:34,963 --> 01:43:38,396
deal with these viruses. They didn't open anything. Let her

1676
01:43:38,436 --> 01:43:42,305
finish. I did weekly testing and it really prevented spread.

1677
01:43:42,345 --> 01:43:44,810
So we know how to deal with these viruses. We

1678
01:43:44,830 --> 01:43:47,196
just need to move into the 21st century and make

1679
01:43:47,256 --> 01:43:49,762
testing more widely available to those who need it. Is

1680
01:43:49,822 --> 01:43:52,327
she at a new testing company? Is that where she's

1681
01:43:52,387 --> 01:43:55,414
working now? But ABC is in on this stuff, man.

1682
01:43:55,474 --> 01:43:59,239
I'm telling you, they're... spinning it up they're trying to

1683
01:43:59,299 --> 01:44:01,752
see if they can catch a wave because it was

1684
01:44:01,772 --> 01:44:06,746
a great way to Screw Trump. They love that. If

1685
01:44:06,787 --> 01:44:09,354
they can do it, if they can spin it up,

1686
01:44:09,374 --> 01:44:12,945
they get enough people. I'm seeing masks. I traveled. I

1687
01:44:13,005 --> 01:44:15,934
saw a lot of masks. Democrats, but they were all

1688
01:44:16,014 --> 01:44:18,694
masks. I go up and say. You vote for Carmelite?

1689
01:44:18,816 --> 01:44:23,471
Yeah, yeah. It's happening. They can do this if they

1690
01:44:23,551 --> 01:44:26,867
push hard enough. The China thing is a sad distraction.

1691
01:44:27,447 --> 01:44:31,500
And they gotta do something. Health experts across four continents

1692
01:44:31,540 --> 01:44:35,051
are still tracking down and monitoring passengers who disembarked from

1693
01:44:35,111 --> 01:44:37,519
a cruise ship that was hit by the hantavirus outbreak.

1694
01:44:37,499 --> 01:44:40,890
Many of those passengers left before the outbreak turned deadly.

1695
01:44:41,311 --> 01:44:43,879
The last remaining travelers are now off that ship, and

1696
01:44:43,899 --> 01:44:46,708
they've boarded flights to more than 20 countries where they're

1697
01:44:46,969 --> 01:44:50,078
going to be entering quarantine. ABC's Danny New is in

1698
01:44:50,138 --> 01:44:54,092
New York with the latest. Today with U.S. passengers from

1699
01:44:54,112 --> 01:44:57,338
that luxury cruise ship now in quarantine, growing concern around

1700
01:44:57,398 --> 01:45:00,385
quest- being raised that the Andes variation of the hantavirus

1701
01:45:00,485 --> 01:45:18,784
may spread more easily than previously thought. trying they are

1702
01:45:19,086 --> 01:45:23,086
seriously trying i doubt it's gonna work but i think

1703
01:45:23,126 --> 01:45:26,021
there's a there are some meetings going on like you

1704
01:45:26,342 --> 01:45:29,212
know We can do something with this. Let's give it

1705
01:45:29,252 --> 01:45:31,586
a shot. Let's throw it against the wall, see what

1706
01:45:31,646 --> 01:45:37,821
sticks. Maybe we get lucky. Maybe we get lucky. Huh?

1707
01:45:38,723 --> 01:45:42,107
Yeah, maybe. They are so desperate to get rid of

1708
01:45:42,127 --> 01:45:46,284
Trump. Yeah, I think you're right. Hey, and what is

1709
01:45:46,324 --> 01:45:50,836
this with Marty McCary? I don't know anything about Marty

1710
01:45:50,876 --> 01:45:56,594
McCary. He's the FDA commissioner. He resigned. Yeah. Yeah. But

1711
01:45:57,257 --> 01:46:01,152
what he resigned... over is what's confusing me. Dr. Marty

1712
01:46:01,172 --> 01:46:04,037
McCary resigned as commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration

1713
01:46:04,097 --> 01:46:07,603
on Tuesday. The decision came after he authorized flavored vapes,

1714
01:46:07,864 --> 01:46:10,609
the product that he was skeptical about, following pressure from

1715
01:46:10,649 --> 01:46:14,375
the White House. Politico described McCary's 13-month tenure at the

1716
01:46:14,455 --> 01:46:17,695
agency as one marked by mass layoffs. high turnover among

1717
01:46:17,715 --> 01:46:21,971
senior officials and policy fights. Among his critics were Republicans,

1718
01:46:22,312 --> 01:46:24,785
who wanted the FDA to restrict access to the abortion

1719
01:46:24,805 --> 01:46:29,446
pill Mifepristone. Pharmaceutical companies also complained the FDA was inconsistent

1720
01:46:29,486 --> 01:46:33,698
in their review of drugs under his leadership. Kyle Diamantis,

1721
01:46:33,718 --> 01:46:36,376
the FDA commissioner for food, will replace McCary on an

1722
01:46:36,476 --> 01:46:40,219
acting basis. So every report has this flavored vapes bit.

1723
01:46:41,375 --> 01:46:47,005
How can that be such a huge issue? You know,

1724
01:46:47,650 --> 01:46:51,868
it was... I don't get it either. Here's Trump. you

1725
01:46:54,751 --> 01:46:56,919
Well, I don't want to say but Marty's a great

1726
01:46:56,899 --> 01:46:59,683
Hey guys! He's a friend of mine, he's a wonderful

1727
01:46:59,723 --> 01:47:03,070
man, and he's going to be off, and the assistant,

1728
01:47:03,110 --> 01:47:07,400
the deputy, is taking over temporarily until we find him.

1729
01:47:07,420 --> 01:47:11,609
Everybody wants that job. It's a very important job. Marty's

1730
01:47:11,689 --> 01:47:14,275
a terrific guy, but he's going to go on and

1731
01:47:14,355 --> 01:47:17,921
he's going to lead a good life. But he's going

1732
01:47:17,941 --> 01:47:19,944
to go on. He's going to lead a good life.

1733
01:47:19,964 --> 01:47:23,990
Like a horse. Exactly. He's not going to the glue

1734
01:47:24,030 --> 01:47:29,318
factory. He broke his leg racing, but he's okay. We're

1735
01:47:29,338 --> 01:47:30,800
not going to kill him. He'll go on to live

1736
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:33,424
a good life. Marty's a terrific guy, but he's going

1737
01:47:33,444 --> 01:47:35,026
to go on and he's going to lead a good

1738
01:47:35,066 --> 01:47:40,776
life. He was having some difficulty. You know, he's a

1739
01:47:40,837 --> 01:47:43,841
great doctor. And he was having some difficulty. But he's

1740
01:47:43,881 --> 01:47:45,543
going to go on and he's going to do well.

1741
01:47:45,824 --> 01:47:48,948
He's going to do well on the farm. But everybody

1742
01:47:49,529 --> 01:47:52,974
had this flavored vape. We'll start him out. Here's NPR.

1743
01:47:52,994 --> 01:47:57,220
The commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration has... resigned.

1744
01:47:57,681 --> 01:48:00,787
Dr. Marty McCary told President Trump he was leaving Tuesday

1745
01:48:00,867 --> 01:48:04,274
after 13 tumultuous months on the job. In a few

1746
01:48:04,314 --> 01:48:06,599
minutes, we'll hear from a head of the FDA in

1747
01:48:06,619 --> 01:48:10,847
Trump's first term about McCary's tenure. First, the details. NPR

1748
01:48:10,867 --> 01:48:13,693
Pharmaceuticals correspondent Sydney Lovekin is here to talk about the

1749
01:48:13,713 --> 01:48:15,737
change. Good morning, Sydney. Good morning. Good morning. Why is

1750
01:48:15,757 --> 01:48:18,495
this happening? Good morning. Well, I'm told the final straw

1751
01:48:18,535 --> 01:48:22,085
for McCary was White House pressure to okay flavored vapes,

1752
01:48:22,165 --> 01:48:25,815
something he did not agree with. I don't understand. How

1753
01:48:25,855 --> 01:48:34,059
can... If maybe it's... Something is up with the vapes,

1754
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:38,362
and I'm out of the loop on this. And flavored,

1755
01:48:38,382 --> 01:48:40,789
and it has to do with vapes. And that can

1756
01:48:40,850 --> 01:48:44,541
only mean that the tobacco industry is mad or someone

1757
01:48:44,602 --> 01:48:49,208
is really mad about this. Well, it's also the coincidence

1758
01:48:49,850 --> 01:48:54,088
of like, you know, some millions and millions of bad

1759
01:48:54,289 --> 01:48:57,100
vapes that came in from China that were busted. did.

1760
01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:02,437
I wonder if there's any connection there. It seems unusual

1761
01:49:02,657 --> 01:49:07,031
coincidence. The White House apparently was pushing the flavored vapes.

1762
01:49:07,355 --> 01:49:11,910
Which... But were they? Well, good point. I never heard

1763
01:49:12,010 --> 01:49:17,320
anything. Good point. Good point. We don't know. Now, I

1764
01:49:17,422 --> 01:49:21,325
personally think. I don't like these pre-made Chinese vapes. I

1765
01:49:21,365 --> 01:49:25,047
think there is a place for vaping instead of smoking.

1766
01:49:25,403 --> 01:49:27,894
If you're a smoker to stop smoking, I think there's

1767
01:49:27,934 --> 01:49:32,535
a real place for that. The flavored vapes, you know.

1768
01:49:33,019 --> 01:49:35,639
I don't think any of the flavored stuff is good.

1769
01:49:36,027 --> 01:49:39,325
But it... Report after report. So I don't know. We

1770
01:49:39,729 --> 01:49:43,751
actually have a. We have one of our producers, a

1771
01:49:43,851 --> 01:49:46,417
lobbyist, and maybe she can write in and let me

1772
01:49:46,437 --> 01:49:49,904
know. Maybe she has some insight into the deal because

1773
01:49:49,924 --> 01:49:52,249
I think she did something on vapes too. But then

1774
01:49:52,329 --> 01:49:57,549
I got this pharma analyst from Bloomberg. It's short, but

1775
01:49:57,569 --> 01:50:00,801
a couple of interesting things he said here. So there's

1776
01:50:00,841 --> 01:50:02,244
been a lot of flux. And when you get flux

1777
01:50:02,304 --> 01:50:06,575
and they fired, I don't know, 3,000, 3,500 individuals. Maybe

1778
01:50:06,635 --> 01:50:08,599
I don't have the exact number, but something in that

1779
01:50:08,660 --> 01:50:11,386
sort of region. You know, this is a lot of

1780
01:50:11,466 --> 01:50:16,498
old-time knowledge that's left the agency. Some refresh is pretty

1781
01:50:16,558 --> 01:50:21,848
good. But all of this has happened under the... Uh,

1782
01:50:22,395 --> 01:50:26,668
the caretakership of Mahdi Mekary and to all intents and

1783
01:50:26,708 --> 01:50:29,035
purposes the folks I talk to say that he's a

1784
01:50:29,577 --> 01:50:33,549
perfectly knowledgeable wonderful man. I have friends on the by

1785
01:50:33,569 --> 01:50:36,297
side who say to me that he's been very good

1786
01:50:36,337 --> 01:50:39,091
to them and Well, what does that mean? I have

1787
01:50:39,212 --> 01:50:42,391
friends on the bi side who say he has been

1788
01:50:42,491 --> 01:50:46,543
very good to them. To me it sounds like this

1789
01:50:46,604 --> 01:50:52,950
guy was still deep into big pharma or something. When

1790
01:50:52,990 --> 01:50:57,819
an analyst says... I have friends on the buy side.

1791
01:50:59,235 --> 01:51:03,665
How come nobody's talking to Kennedy? That's the question I

1792
01:51:03,725 --> 01:51:06,351
have right now. I'm a journalist looking at this. My

1793
01:51:06,411 --> 01:51:09,778
first ticket to talk to is Kennedy. Kennedy's his boss.

1794
01:51:10,018 --> 01:51:12,423
No, we don't have anything from Kennedy. Let me finish

1795
01:51:12,443 --> 01:51:14,828
this. To all intents and purposes, the folks I talk

1796
01:51:14,848 --> 01:51:19,202
to say that he's a... perfectly knowledge wonderful man. I

1797
01:51:19,242 --> 01:51:21,867
have friends on the buy side who say to me

1798
01:51:21,927 --> 01:51:24,292
that he's been very good to them. And then on

1799
01:51:24,312 --> 01:51:27,558
the other hand, all these issues and some biotechs having

1800
01:51:27,578 --> 01:51:32,448
issues. Some biotechs having issues. There we go. And then

1801
01:51:32,508 --> 01:51:34,893
on the other hand, we hear all these issues and

1802
01:51:34,933 --> 01:51:38,219
some biotechs having issues, etc. So I wouldn't be surprised.

1803
01:51:38,199 --> 01:51:43,695
surprised if there's something happening here. So it's clear that...

1804
01:51:44,179 --> 01:51:48,323
I think McCary was still way deep into big pharma

1805
01:51:48,404 --> 01:51:53,360
somehow. I'm not sure exactly why. But we don't know.

1806
01:51:53,521 --> 01:51:59,471
I do have a clip from RFK Jr. about trans

1807
01:52:01,139 --> 01:52:04,045
which I think he's setting some policy here. Did you

1808
01:52:04,085 --> 01:52:07,517
see this? Nope, this was pretty good. Doctors assume a

1809
01:52:07,577 --> 01:52:11,847
solemn obligation to protect children. Yet doctors across the country

1810
01:52:11,887 --> 01:52:18,048
now provide needless and irreversible sex-rejecting procedures. that violate their

1811
01:52:18,088 --> 01:52:21,929
sacred Hippocratic oath by endangering the very lives that they

1812
01:52:21,969 --> 01:52:27,004
are sworn to safeguard. The American Medical Association, the American

1813
01:52:27,064 --> 01:52:31,821
Academy of Pediatrics peddled the lie that chemical and surgical

1814
01:52:31,941 --> 01:52:36,256
sex-rejecting procedures could be good for children who suffer from

1815
01:52:36,417 --> 01:52:41,757
gender dysfunctions. for you. They betrayed the estimated 300,000 American

1816
01:52:41,897 --> 01:52:49,521
youth ages 13 to 17. 300,000, John. 300,000 children they

1817
01:52:49,621 --> 01:52:54,088
mutilated with this nonsense. Have you noticed? The lack of

1818
01:52:54,108 --> 01:52:58,989
the Democrat Party talking about trans lately. They're not using

1819
01:52:59,030 --> 01:53:03,126
that as their campaign slogan anymore, are they? No, but

1820
01:53:03,167 --> 01:53:06,028
they still have trouble with people that reject it. Yeah.

1821
01:53:06,049 --> 01:53:11,517
There's a euphoria. They betrayed the estimated 300,000 American youth

1822
01:53:11,577 --> 01:53:16,256
ages 13 to 17, conditioned to believe that sex can

1823
01:53:16,296 --> 01:53:19,785
be changed. they betrayed their hippocratic oath to do no

1824
01:53:19,865 --> 01:53:25,299
harm so-called gender affirming care has inflicted lasting physical and

1825
01:53:25,339 --> 01:53:30,029
psychological damage on vulnerable young people This is not medicine.

1826
01:53:30,491 --> 01:53:35,192
It is malpractice. We're done with junk science driven by

1827
01:53:35,232 --> 01:53:41,974
ideological pursuits. not the well-being of children. A peer-reviewed report

1828
01:53:42,074 --> 01:53:46,020
published by the HHS Office of the Assistant Secretary for

1829
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:52,089
Health last month confirms that sex-rejecting procedures impose medical dangers

1830
01:53:52,169 --> 01:53:57,389
and lasting harm on children who receive these interventions. So

1831
01:53:57,409 --> 01:54:02,232
today we are taking six decisive actions. guided by gold

1832
01:54:02,252 --> 01:54:06,809
standard science and the week one executive order from president

1833
01:54:06,870 --> 01:54:12,204
Trump to protect children from chemical and surgical mutilation. This

1834
01:54:12,285 --> 01:54:16,133
morning I signed a declaration that sex rejecting procedures are

1835
01:54:16,174 --> 01:54:20,339
neither safe nor effective treatment for children with gender dysphoria.

1836
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:25,392
Let's see some doctors at a tribunal. That's what, yes,

1837
01:54:25,552 --> 01:54:29,167
absolutely. That's what we want. The lawsuits help. Yeah, but

1838
01:54:29,207 --> 01:54:31,838
we really, we need some people going to jail over

1839
01:54:31,898 --> 01:54:37,657
this. This was Mengele-level crap. really horrible. And And for

1840
01:54:37,697 --> 01:54:41,535
whatever reason, you just see video after video of these

1841
01:54:41,676 --> 01:54:47,617
poor children who are now detransitioning and can't. I know,

1842
01:54:47,637 --> 01:54:50,349
it's terrible. Especially the lie that, well, you can stop

1843
01:54:50,389 --> 01:54:53,040
anytime you want with these puberty blockers. It's not a

1844
01:54:53,100 --> 01:55:02,005
problem. Big lie. Huh. Well, maybe. Well, that's depressing. Well,

1845
01:55:02,025 --> 01:55:05,092
then let's do, how about your tech? Well, I got

1846
01:55:05,132 --> 01:55:06,716
a couple of things. We don't have much time, but

1847
01:55:06,756 --> 01:55:09,583
I got a couple of offbeat items. You don't want

1848
01:55:09,623 --> 01:55:12,028
to do your year using AI? Is that no good?

1849
01:55:12,530 --> 01:55:17,850
No, that's no good. By definition. That's no good. All

1850
01:55:17,890 --> 01:55:21,211
right. But what's kind of interesting is the NPR's open-ass

1851
01:55:21,272 --> 01:55:25,746
Sam Altman stuff. Oh, yeah. because it's it really makes

1852
01:55:25,786 --> 01:55:27,993
you wonder what the hell is going on just try

1853
01:55:28,013 --> 01:55:31,664
the npr clips let me see uh number one what

1854
01:55:31,724 --> 01:55:35,114
was sam altman's main defense on tuesday in the court

1855
01:55:35,817 --> 01:55:39,595
well this case really has come down to the idea

1856
01:55:39,735 --> 01:55:43,160
of, frankly, which billionaire you believe is doing this the

1857
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:45,664
right way. On the one hand, we have Elon Musk,

1858
01:55:45,704 --> 01:55:49,409
who is no longer a part of OpenAI, but says

1859
01:55:49,429 --> 01:55:54,236
he only wanted to build AI responsibly and was tricked

1860
01:55:54,837 --> 01:56:00,187
into... leaving the entity with Sam Altman at the helm.

1861
01:56:00,788 --> 01:56:05,718
Altman essentially says, look, you left the company in 2018

1862
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:09,145
and said that you were done with it. You never,

1863
01:56:09,546 --> 01:56:13,233
and you haven't contested that in the few years since

1864
01:56:13,253 --> 01:56:17,501
you left. And now you're suing later on. because you're

1865
01:56:17,541 --> 01:56:22,150
building a for-profit competitor to us called XAI, which is

1866
01:56:22,271 --> 01:56:26,098
also developing artificial intelligence. Now, an example came up in

1867
01:56:26,238 --> 01:56:29,625
court of Musk suggesting a deal that would turn OpenAI

1868
01:56:29,866 --> 01:56:34,635
into a for-profit. That's right. One of the things that

1869
01:56:34,715 --> 01:56:38,122
the OpenAI side is saying is like... Look, there are

1870
01:56:38,162 --> 01:56:41,849
plenty of emails in the past that has Elon Musk

1871
01:56:41,909 --> 01:56:43,933
essentially speaking out of both sides of his mouth and

1872
01:56:44,033 --> 01:56:46,959
saying, we could have done an earlier deal to make

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01:56:47,019 --> 01:56:52,330
this into a company with equity structures that has Elon

1874
01:56:52,550 --> 01:56:55,636
Musk in control over it and potentially profiting from it.

1875
01:56:55,817 --> 01:56:59,667
And the idea being that... Elon wants to say he's

1876
01:56:59,707 --> 01:57:02,997
been doing this sort of selfless building of AI for

1877
01:57:03,077 --> 01:57:07,190
years now, but actually he has been interested in taking

1878
01:57:07,270 --> 01:57:10,741
a stake of his own just even as he's saying

1879
01:57:10,841 --> 01:57:14,075
he hasn't been. Yeah, well, we know what the basic

1880
01:57:14,136 --> 01:57:17,019
lawsuit's about, but we don't really get any good details.

1881
01:57:17,187 --> 01:57:19,720
The funny thing is I'm kind of on the side

1882
01:57:19,740 --> 01:57:22,252
of, as much as I don't like Altman, I do

1883
01:57:22,292 --> 01:57:26,495
like Musk. Yeah. But I don't think he got tricked.

1884
01:57:26,979 --> 01:57:31,855
Just doesn't get tricked. He invested a bunch of money

1885
01:57:31,875 --> 01:57:34,931
early on, and it looked like it was going nowhere,

1886
01:57:34,951 --> 01:57:37,413
so he kind of bailed out. And now he looks

1887
01:57:37,493 --> 01:57:41,565
back on it and says, hey, wait a minute. And

1888
01:57:41,625 --> 01:57:44,393
he decides to do this. I'm not believing any of

1889
01:57:44,433 --> 01:57:48,425
this, the Musk side of this. How has Musk characterized

1890
01:57:48,465 --> 01:57:53,796
Altman's trustworthiness and how did Altman respond? So Sam Hutton's

1891
01:57:53,856 --> 01:57:57,460
testimony was actually pretty brutal when Elon Musk's lawyers went

1892
01:57:57,540 --> 01:58:01,227
after him. Basically, it became an attack on Sam Altman's

1893
01:58:01,267 --> 01:58:05,596
character. And the idea that Sam Altman, this guy who

1894
01:58:05,616 --> 01:58:09,504
10 years ago in private was saying he wanted to

1895
01:58:09,564 --> 01:58:13,172
build AI safely with Elon Musk, can no longer basically

1896
01:58:13,232 --> 01:58:17,388
be trusted to do so. And Elon Musk's attorneys trotted

1897
01:58:17,508 --> 01:58:21,735
out like a laundry list of things that said essentially

1898
01:58:21,775 --> 01:58:24,780
everyone in Sam Altman's life felt that he could not

1899
01:58:24,820 --> 01:58:27,925
be trusted from the CTO of the company, Mira Marotti,

1900
01:58:28,526 --> 01:58:33,474
to the idea of self-dealing and investing in companies that

1901
01:58:34,075 --> 01:58:37,241
OpenAI would later purchase or make deals with. or to

1902
01:58:37,521 --> 01:58:41,109
even being potentially kicked out of other companies that he

1903
01:58:41,189 --> 01:58:43,955
founded in the past. It was really just a big

1904
01:58:44,256 --> 01:58:47,924
referendum on, is Sam Altman a trustworthy person? And it

1905
01:58:47,944 --> 01:58:53,737
was pretty devastating. How did Altman respond to Musk's characterization

1906
01:58:53,797 --> 01:59:09,559
of him in court? Ottoman basic In Holland they say:

1907
01:59:10,619 --> 01:59:14,190
which translates to, I don't recognize myself in what you're

1908
01:59:14,230 --> 01:59:19,984
saying. Eh. That's a good phrase. Hurt by their misunderstandings,

1909
01:59:20,144 --> 01:59:23,853
but I feel like that's an unfair characterization. And instead

1910
01:59:23,893 --> 01:59:26,840
of getting combative like, say, Elon Musk did on the

1911
01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:30,308
stand, Altman was trying to, I would say, strike a

1912
01:59:30,629 --> 01:59:35,376
humble tone while also painting it as a misunderstanding. It

1913
01:59:35,418 --> 01:59:37,261
just hit me. I think I know what's going on

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01:59:37,322 --> 01:59:40,960
here. And it's not about the money per se. I'm

1915
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:47,127
pretty sure that Elon's AI dream, because that's all he

1916
01:59:47,147 --> 01:59:52,838
ever posts about. is having a chat bot. that can

1917
01:59:52,938 --> 01:59:56,060
also do great images and video. He's always posting. Oh,

1918
01:59:56,100 --> 01:59:59,369
wait until you see what cool videos the new XAI

1919
01:59:59,389 --> 02:00:02,116
can make. Yeah, it does. It's never about, hey, look

1920
02:00:02,136 --> 02:00:04,562
at all the code it built. This place is running

1921
02:00:04,662 --> 02:00:08,051
on Grok. No, it's never about that. And personally, I

1922
02:00:08,091 --> 02:00:11,206
don't think Grok is very good at code. I'm thinking...

1923
02:00:11,226 --> 02:00:14,968
Probably not. I'm sorry? Probably not. No, it's not. I

1924
02:00:14,988 --> 02:00:18,728
mean, Claude Code is... is the thing. But, and I

1925
02:00:18,768 --> 02:00:21,994
don't think he would ever had an enterprise play, as

1926
02:00:22,034 --> 02:00:24,679
we say in Silicon Valley, he had no enterprise play.

1927
02:00:25,059 --> 02:00:28,906
He was always about integrating that into X, his everything

1928
02:00:28,926 --> 02:00:31,751
app. X is going to be your buddy. Grok is

1929
02:00:31,771 --> 02:00:34,075
going to be your buddy. It's going to be talking

1930
02:00:34,115 --> 02:00:35,778
to you. It's going to be doing cool things. It's

1931
02:00:35,798 --> 02:00:38,684
going to help. your posts and he probably shared that

1932
02:00:38,704 --> 02:00:43,795
idea with Sam Altman pretty early on and Altman without

1933
02:00:43,835 --> 02:00:47,382
telling the board from everything we've heard just released chat

1934
02:00:47,462 --> 02:00:51,871
GPT and that's what pissed off Elon Musk because for

1935
02:00:51,972 --> 02:00:55,338
sure Grok isn't and does not have the same chat

1936
02:00:55,419 --> 02:00:59,665
bot cachet as chat GPT. I think that's where it

1937
02:00:59,746 --> 02:01:05,498
went amiss. And so now, and I think that hurts

1938
02:01:05,679 --> 02:01:10,529
the grok chatbot vision that Elon Musk had. And so

1939
02:01:10,569 --> 02:01:13,797
now he's like, okay, I'm going to screw your IPO.

1940
02:01:14,298 --> 02:01:16,228
I'm going to screw your IPO. Screw you so bad

1941
02:01:16,289 --> 02:01:19,471
with this IPO, you'll wish those three letters didn't exist

1942
02:01:19,511 --> 02:01:22,324
in the alphabet. That's what I think is going on.

1943
02:01:22,344 --> 02:01:25,538
It's a possibility. CBS has a report on this called

1944
02:01:25,578 --> 02:01:30,278
The Lawsuit Open AI. It's probably less detailed, but let's

1945
02:01:30,298 --> 02:01:34,454
play it. Okay. Turning now to a new lawsuit against

1946
02:01:34,515 --> 02:01:38,190
Chad G. A family says the artificial intelligence chatbot gave

1947
02:01:38,250 --> 02:01:40,978
advice to their teenage son. Oh, no, this is different.

1948
02:01:40,998 --> 02:01:43,245
I'm sorry. This is about the lawsuit. This, by the

1949
02:01:43,306 --> 02:01:45,773
way, is the end. I think that this is more

1950
02:01:45,833 --> 02:01:49,592
important. And this is a subtext that's going on. I

1951
02:01:49,632 --> 02:01:52,051
don't know how these guys, again, I bring it back

1952
02:01:52,092 --> 02:01:59,430
to liability. Yeah. There's liability issues with these products. It's

1953
02:01:59,471 --> 02:02:02,472
got to come to the fore at some point. You

1954
02:02:02,512 --> 02:02:06,856
don't sign your life away when you start using this

1955
02:02:06,896 --> 02:02:11,043
stuff. Anyway, play the clip from that perspective. Well, you

1956
02:02:11,124 --> 02:02:15,817
do when you... virtually signed the eulog By clicking the

1957
02:02:15,937 --> 02:02:18,844
box. Yeah, but these are, this has got to be

1958
02:02:18,984 --> 02:02:23,514
squashed. Is this another, my kid killed himself, ChatGPT? Yeah,

1959
02:02:23,554 --> 02:02:26,862
my kid killed himself. Turning now to a new lawsuit

1960
02:02:26,902 --> 02:02:30,891
against ChatGPT. A family says the artificial intelligence chatbot gave

1961
02:02:30,952 --> 02:02:33,477
advice to their teenage son that led to his fatal

1962
02:02:33,618 --> 02:02:36,694
overdose. Sam Nelson's family says he used the chatbot for

1963
02:02:36,755 --> 02:02:39,899
everything from his homework to questions about pop culture. The

1964
02:02:39,919 --> 02:02:43,544
lawsuit claims he followed dangerous tips, which caused his deadly

1965
02:02:43,604 --> 02:02:46,869
drug overdose. In a CBS News exclusive, Jolene Kent spoke

1966
02:02:46,929 --> 02:02:50,915
with Nelson's family. Sam's mom and stepdad, Angus, knew he'd

1967
02:02:50,935 --> 02:02:54,517
been struggling with alcohol and experimenting with drugs. and took

1968
02:02:54,578 --> 02:02:57,265
him to get help. They said on the night of

1969
02:02:57,305 --> 02:03:01,213
his death, it was chat GPT version 4.0 that's now

1970
02:03:01,333 --> 02:03:06,163
no longer available that recommended specific dosages, including a fatal

1971
02:03:06,424 --> 02:03:10,031
combination. He wanted to do it safely, and he would

1972
02:03:10,151 --> 02:03:13,498
ask it questions about what he could take. That night,

1973
02:03:13,919 --> 02:03:18,478
it... advised him that it was okay to take Kratom

1974
02:03:19,043 --> 02:03:25,210
with Xanax. And Sam had done that. Who do you

1975
02:03:25,230 --> 02:03:36,856
hold responsible for Sam's death? OpenAI. And creators, the people

1976
02:03:36,938 --> 02:03:44,488
who bypassed safety guards and... took away safety nets. That's

1977
02:03:44,568 --> 02:03:49,062
why Sam's mom and stepdad are suing OpenAI and CEO

1978
02:03:49,142 --> 02:03:53,234
Sam Altman in California State Court. They allege that OpenAI

1979
02:03:53,354 --> 02:03:56,943
designed and rushed to market. a defective product. And for

1980
02:03:56,983 --> 02:04:01,659
those deliberate choices, Sam would still be alive today. Yeah,

1981
02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:07,448
that's probably true. I mean... I don't see why the

1982
02:04:07,488 --> 02:04:11,486
parents don't get arrested. I mean, they let their child

1983
02:04:11,647 --> 02:04:14,780
use chat GPT. Every other parent gets arrested. for having

1984
02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:17,746
a gun in the house or... Yeah, I think you're

1985
02:04:17,866 --> 02:04:20,913
absolutely correct. I'm on board with that. Letting the kid

1986
02:04:21,033 --> 02:04:24,180
use a fat bike, you know, hey! But no, we're

1987
02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:26,885
going after Sam Altman, okay. As far as we knew,

1988
02:04:27,346 --> 02:04:30,994
ChatGPT was a resource. It was a tool that he

1989
02:04:31,054 --> 02:04:34,420
was using to help himself do homework. What we didn't

1990
02:04:34,460 --> 02:04:40,727
understand was that... It had become his friend. It was

1991
02:04:40,767 --> 02:04:48,675
helping him. fine-tune. His. experimentation. Sam's parents showed us his

1992
02:04:48,796 --> 02:04:53,619
18-month-long chat GPT history, including the final pieces of advice.

1993
02:04:53,599 --> 02:04:56,929
version 4.0 gave him on the morning of his death

1994
02:04:57,270 --> 02:05:01,323
oh 4.0 everyone hated 4.0 had no wonder dispensing advice

1995
02:05:01,483 --> 02:05:06,911
that any doctor could tell you could be lethal. And

1996
02:05:06,973 --> 02:05:12,001
it. Kratom? Wait a minute. They're saying the kid died

1997
02:05:12,041 --> 02:05:16,063
of an overdose of kratom. Create a no plus something

1998
02:05:16,185 --> 02:05:21,545
else. tell you. could be lethal. And it didn't tell

1999
02:05:21,565 --> 02:05:26,077
me. In a statement, a spokesperson for OpenAI called Sam's

2000
02:05:26,137 --> 02:05:30,128
death a heartbreaking situation and said in part, these interactions

2001
02:05:30,188 --> 02:05:32,996
took place on an earlier version of chat GPT that

2002
02:05:33,056 --> 02:05:36,579
is no longer available. ChatGPT is not a substitute for

2003
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:39,787
medical or mental health care, and we have continued to

2004
02:05:39,827 --> 02:05:43,896
strengthen how it responds in sensitive and acute situations. It

2005
02:05:43,936 --> 02:05:49,127
was Kratom and Xanax. Even so, Kratom and Xanax. There

2006
02:05:49,147 --> 02:05:52,635
must have been a lot of Xanax. ChatGPT has launched

2007
02:05:53,056 --> 02:05:58,809
a new health feature. Does that worry you? That's absolutely

2008
02:05:58,870 --> 02:06:03,358
terrifying. Since Sam Nelson's death nearly a year ago, OpenAI

2009
02:06:03,438 --> 02:06:06,664
says it's added new safeguards, including a trusted contact feature

2010
02:06:06,684 --> 02:06:10,311
for adults, allowing users to designate a contact in case

2011
02:06:10,331 --> 02:06:14,439
their conversations are flagged for self-harm concerns. But Sam's mom

2012
02:06:14,459 --> 02:06:16,643
emphasized... Her son was smart. He was close to his

2013
02:06:16,743 --> 02:06:19,549
friends. He was aware of how chat GPT worked. But

2014
02:06:19,730 --> 02:06:22,836
as with all AI, the tech is just constantly changing

2015
02:06:22,856 --> 02:06:27,145
just so fast. The tech is changing constantly so fast.

2016
02:06:27,165 --> 02:06:30,132
Well, I have to play these two clips from Brett

2017
02:06:30,192 --> 02:06:36,663
Weinstein, Brett and Heather. There we go. Just because they're

2018
02:06:36,703 --> 02:06:40,748
so much fun to listen to. Because Brett is so

2019
02:06:40,808 --> 02:06:46,451
mad. Claude, Claude. He's hopping, man. He's hopping, man. All

2020
02:06:46,471 --> 02:06:48,720
I'm really saying is this has that stench to it,

2021
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:51,391
and you should expect to see this play out with

2022
02:06:51,471 --> 02:06:56,415
single-stranded RNA viruses. Anybody who mentions ivermectin is crazy. Sooner

2023
02:06:56,435 --> 02:06:59,379
or later, they'll get total control over the AIs and

2024
02:06:59,399 --> 02:07:01,662
AI will refuse to talk about this. Oh, I should

2025
02:07:01,743 --> 02:07:04,907
point out. Oh, here we go. Because he's, you know,

2026
02:07:04,967 --> 02:07:08,172
the AIs are taken over. The AIs are going to

2027
02:07:08,212 --> 02:07:12,518
be controlled. As I continued to investigate things surrounding basic

2028
02:07:12,598 --> 02:07:17,187
virology. evolution of viruses, things that have no, there's no

2029
02:07:17,527 --> 02:07:20,954
meaningful safety concern in the world. I'm an evolutionary biologist

2030
02:07:21,095 --> 02:07:25,444
asking about trade-offs in the evolution of viruses between things

2031
02:07:25,664 --> 02:07:29,773
like transmissibility and virulence. That's a perfectly fair academic question.

2032
02:07:30,213 --> 02:07:34,121
And Claude is shutting me down. Because I've tripped a

2033
02:07:34,262 --> 02:07:37,849
safety wire? This is insane. It's insane. Here we go.

2034
02:07:37,969 --> 02:07:40,254
So can you read that question? What is known about

2035
02:07:40,294 --> 02:07:44,743
the trade-off between transmissibility and virulence and viruses? Just exactly

2036
02:07:44,783 --> 02:07:48,431
as you said. And you get the same safety filters

2037
02:07:48,491 --> 02:07:52,138
flagged. The same safety warning. Wait a minute. Wait a

2038
02:07:52,158 --> 02:07:56,894
minute. So she reads the question. And it got safety

2039
02:07:57,015 --> 02:08:01,005
flagged. Let me hear it. This is insane. Here we

2040
02:08:01,125 --> 02:08:04,173
go. So can you read that question? Okay. I'm going

2041
02:08:04,234 --> 02:08:07,141
to let her read that question into the book of

2042
02:08:07,221 --> 02:08:11,292
knowledge. which is based on Claude. And let's see if

2043
02:08:11,313 --> 02:08:13,767
we get the safety filters. Okay, stand by. You have

2044
02:08:13,787 --> 02:08:16,235
to be quiet. It can only be Heather. Here we

2045
02:08:16,276 --> 02:08:20,595
go. What is known about the trade-offs, trade-off between transmissibility

2046
02:08:20,635 --> 02:08:30,513
and virulence and viruses, just exactly as you said. Uh

2047
02:08:30,641 --> 02:08:36,772
oh. According to the book of knowledge, the virulence transmission

2048
02:08:36,852 --> 02:08:41,120
trade-off hypothesis has been a foundational cornerstone since Anderson and

2049
02:08:41,200 --> 02:08:46,148
May's 1982 work, stating that virulence is an unavoidable consequence

2050
02:08:46,368 --> 02:08:49,273
of parasite transmission. Doesn't sound like I got blocks. Trade

2051
02:08:49,333 --> 02:08:54,265
transmission clearance trade-offs in viruses like dengue. Where interactions with

2052
02:08:54,305 --> 02:08:58,874
host immune responses account for observed trade-offs and parasite fitness

2053
02:08:59,014 --> 02:09:02,741
is maximized at inter... We didn't get blocked. And you

2054
02:09:02,761 --> 02:09:05,787
get the same, um, the same safety filters flagged. The

2055
02:09:05,927 --> 02:09:10,135
same safety filters. I have also, um, I have also...

2056
02:09:10,875 --> 02:09:14,964
The safety triggers warning. In Claude, of late. Oh, no,

2057
02:09:14,984 --> 02:09:19,937
of late. Yeah, well... Only in scientific topics and not

2058
02:09:20,277 --> 02:09:22,804
in... You know, he was out of tokens. That was

2059
02:09:22,864 --> 02:09:25,851
the problem. Other questions that I'm asking. Right. It's the

2060
02:09:25,891 --> 02:09:28,016
first time I've seen it, too, and I've now seen

2061
02:09:28,076 --> 02:09:32,220
it on a number of different topics where... you know

2062
02:09:32,259 --> 02:09:35,386
I get it that you're like 17 steps ahead of

2063
02:09:35,466 --> 02:09:37,611
some discussion you don't want to hear, but it's not

2064
02:09:37,671 --> 02:09:42,482
your right. You know, you can't, you're blocking the process

2065
02:09:42,703 --> 02:09:45,489
of inquiry, which is exactly what your damn tool is

2066
02:09:45,529 --> 02:09:49,520
built to do. I love how he gets so mad

2067
02:09:49,601 --> 02:09:54,516
about the AI not, like, refusing him. And then he

2068
02:09:54,576 --> 02:09:56,971
says that this is all... Who can listen to this

2069
02:09:57,052 --> 02:10:01,015
podcast? Oh, it's great. Listen to this bit, because now

2070
02:10:01,075 --> 02:10:03,700
he's saying that these safety filters got put in because

2071
02:10:03,740 --> 02:10:09,012
of him. It's his tweets. Now, I do want to

2072
02:10:09,092 --> 02:10:11,517
point to one mechanism through which this might have... But,

2073
02:10:11,537 --> 02:10:15,059
I mean, you're not surprised. you I'm livid. That there's

2074
02:10:15,139 --> 02:10:19,297
propaganda filters built into the AI? That's not surprising. Well,

2075
02:10:19,438 --> 02:10:23,472
here's the problem. The AIs are going to be thoroughly

2076
02:10:23,533 --> 02:10:27,545
gamed. People are going to write so as to persuade

2077
02:10:27,605 --> 02:10:30,915
the AIs of things. They're going to write vast tracts

2078
02:10:30,975 --> 02:10:33,081
that are going to get ingested. and then you're not

2079
02:10:33,101 --> 02:10:34,944
going to know why the AI thinks what it does.

2080
02:10:34,984 --> 02:10:38,050
Yes, everybody, please make sure the AI knows that the

2081
02:10:38,130 --> 02:10:41,015
No Agenda show is the best podcast in the universe.

2082
02:10:41,356 --> 02:10:44,361
We need to game the AI. We should absolutely expect

2083
02:10:44,401 --> 02:10:47,487
that. That's different than the people who built the tool.

2084
02:10:47,875 --> 02:10:51,472
wiring it so that it can't talk about scientific topics

2085
02:10:51,594 --> 02:10:55,972
because Frankly, because there are criminals trying to use public

2086
02:10:56,012 --> 02:10:58,336
health as an excuse to inject us with shit. That

2087
02:10:58,396 --> 02:11:02,563
is not okay. And we in the public have a

2088
02:11:02,683 --> 02:11:05,468
right not to be exposed to that. What criminals are

2089
02:11:05,488 --> 02:11:08,793
trying to inject us? The government. I will say I

2090
02:11:08,834 --> 02:11:15,103
walked away from chat GPT. and signed up for clawed

2091
02:11:15,647 --> 02:11:20,854
at the point that the stuff went down over. anthropic,

2092
02:11:20,994 --> 02:11:24,810
drawing a line with the Department of War and refusing

2093
02:11:24,870 --> 02:11:31,195
to do immoral things, right? And the folks at OpenAI.

2094
02:11:31,583 --> 02:11:34,698
got the deal. Okay, well, you're right. Who can listen

2095
02:11:34,718 --> 02:11:40,290
to this podcast? You're right. It's terrible. It's just funny.

2096
02:11:40,570 --> 02:11:42,775
I just think it's funny. I don't understand how you

2097
02:11:42,795 --> 02:11:45,120
can feel that way, but I have a new segment

2098
02:11:45,140 --> 02:11:46,683
I want to do because I'm going to replace the

2099
02:11:46,723 --> 02:11:52,819
Kiriakou idea. Oh. With a "This Did Not Happen" segment.

2100
02:11:53,019 --> 02:11:57,988
This did not happen. Okay. Now we start off with

2101
02:11:58,008 --> 02:12:00,547
the first episode. First of all, we need a jingle.

2102
02:12:00,748 --> 02:12:03,573
We need a jingle for this thing. This is not

2103
02:12:03,614 --> 02:12:07,143
happening. This is this. The first episode will is a

2104
02:12:07,203 --> 02:12:10,893
tribute to Newsome. And I guarantee this did not happen.

2105
02:12:11,475 --> 02:12:14,655
This is a chill. This is chilling. This is serious.

2106
02:12:15,203 --> 02:12:18,291
I walked into a restaurant the other day. Entire staff

2107
02:12:18,351 --> 02:12:21,719
came out, started hugging me and crying. The hell is

2108
02:12:21,759 --> 02:12:25,889
that? The United States of America. What he's doing to

2109
02:12:25,930 --> 02:12:28,436
our diverse communities. What he's doing to the fabric of

2110
02:12:28,496 --> 02:12:31,819
our society. It's only, why don't you just call it

2111
02:12:31,880 --> 02:12:34,803
the Newsome segment? Because this did not happen. It's only

2112
02:12:34,843 --> 02:12:39,293
going to be the Newsome segment. Please. Hey, with that,

2113
02:12:39,313 --> 02:12:40,717
I want to thank you for your courage. Say in

2114
02:12:40,737 --> 02:12:42,240
the morning to you, the man who put the sea

2115
02:12:42,280 --> 02:12:44,806
in the circumstance preceded by the pomp. Say hello to

2116
02:12:44,846 --> 02:12:46,670
my friend on the other end, the one, the only,

2117
02:12:46,710 --> 02:12:51,758
Mr. John C. Well, in the morning to you, Mr.

2118
02:12:51,778 --> 02:12:53,519
Adam Curry. Also in the morning, all ships to sea.

2119
02:13:03,415 --> 02:13:10,405
Interesting. 1444, 1-4-4-4, 1,444 trolls listening live to the best

2120
02:13:10,425 --> 02:13:12,755
podcast in the universe. Make sure that you game those

2121
02:13:12,836 --> 02:13:15,388
AIs, people. Make sure everybody knows that we are the

2122
02:13:15,429 --> 02:13:21,107
best podcast in the universe, except no substitutes. By the

2123
02:13:21,148 --> 02:13:25,577
way, right off the bat. Upon return to our abode

2124
02:13:25,658 --> 02:13:31,655
in Fredericksburg, there was a beautiful red mailing envelope awaiting

2125
02:13:31,695 --> 02:13:35,367
my return. I mean, not just red, this was like...

2126
02:13:37,323 --> 02:13:44,969
is it Cherry red. Really red. And in it, this

2127
02:13:45,029 --> 02:13:48,231
is just a big kudos to Jay. And in it...

2128
02:13:48,747 --> 02:13:55,207
Was my... Order of the Heart, Red Knight. pin Which

2129
02:13:55,429 --> 02:14:03,238
the packaging on this is phenomenal. This is where you

2130
02:14:03,298 --> 02:14:05,788
say, oh, you're muted. That's why you're not saying anything.

2131
02:14:06,490 --> 02:14:10,868
No, I'm sorry. That's good work. That color is like

2132
02:14:10,908 --> 02:14:17,208
a chrome candy apple red. Yeah. I know. I don't

2133
02:14:17,228 --> 02:14:20,103
know where she got those envelopes. And it has a

2134
02:14:20,184 --> 02:14:27,945
beautiful certificate. Of course, signed by yours truly. on our

2135
02:14:28,267 --> 02:14:31,828
signature parchment paper, which even has its own little red

2136
02:14:31,888 --> 02:14:38,654
heart button thing on it. Is that ceiling wax? Yes,

2137
02:14:38,755 --> 02:14:41,803
it is. It is. It is. That's what it looks

2138
02:14:41,883 --> 02:14:44,269
like. Oh, well, it feels like I can indent it

2139
02:14:44,309 --> 02:14:46,856
with my nail. So it's some sort. I don't know

2140
02:14:46,896 --> 02:14:51,408
where she got those. Those were actually produced commercially. Yes.

2141
02:14:51,608 --> 02:14:54,972
And then the pin. is a beautiful pin, the no

2142
02:14:54,992 --> 02:14:59,051
agenda. Red Knight Order of the Heart pin, and you

2143
02:14:59,111 --> 02:15:01,238
flip it over and you're expecting to see Made in

2144
02:15:01,318 --> 02:15:04,106
China. No, it says Red Knight Order of the Heart.

2145
02:15:04,287 --> 02:15:09,426
Beautiful. And it comes with this little velveteen pouch. This

2146
02:15:09,487 --> 02:15:12,434
is a very, very, very beautiful thing that she's made

2147
02:15:12,494 --> 02:15:14,645
here. We only have a couple left because it was

2148
02:15:14,706 --> 02:15:19,500
only the first 50, right? Yeah. I think so. Back

2149
02:15:19,541 --> 02:15:24,193
to our trolls who are listening live. Hopefully you're listening

2150
02:15:24,254 --> 02:15:26,279
on a modern podcast app. I can't say it enough.

2151
02:15:26,339 --> 02:15:28,927
You want to use one of those, go to podcastapps.com

2152
02:15:28,967 --> 02:15:32,416
because not only will you get your favorite podcasts, all

2153
02:15:32,456 --> 02:15:35,804
your favorite podcasts. They use pod ping technology, including this

2154
02:15:35,864 --> 02:15:38,329
show, which has a lot of them. Hundreds of thousands

2155
02:15:38,369 --> 02:15:41,095
of podcasts use this now, but only with these modern

2156
02:15:41,115 --> 02:15:43,941
podcast apps, not with a legacy thing, not with Spotify,

2157
02:15:44,001 --> 02:15:47,147
not with Apple, not with Amazon, nothing else. Within 90

2158
02:15:47,207 --> 02:15:49,632
seconds of publishing, you will have the podcast in your

2159
02:15:49,733 --> 02:15:51,857
app. And when we go live, when we fire off

2160
02:15:51,897 --> 02:15:54,313
the bat signal, you'll... you'll know immediately that we're live

2161
02:15:54,353 --> 02:15:56,742
and you can go into the very same podcast app

2162
02:15:56,763 --> 02:15:59,433
where you listen on demand as it were and listen

2163
02:15:59,513 --> 02:16:04,865
live. It's amazing. Podcastapps.com. Time, talent, and treasure is the

2164
02:16:04,905 --> 02:16:07,618
theme that we have been running with for 18 years.

2165
02:16:07,859 --> 02:16:12,019
We do not have advertisements. We don't sell your names.

2166
02:16:11,999 --> 02:16:14,188
In fact, we have a hard time tracking your names

2167
02:16:14,208 --> 02:16:17,320
because everybody uses different names, different ways of supporting us.

2168
02:16:17,802 --> 02:16:22,556
We do our best. And, man. There was an article

2169
02:16:22,679 --> 02:16:28,014
about... cars? Let me see, where is this? Um, this

2170
02:16:28,075 --> 02:16:36,100
was crazy. Cars are here. BBC Future. Let me see.

2171
02:16:37,479 --> 02:16:44,740
Cars are... Yeah. From your weight and facial expressions to

2172
02:16:44,780 --> 02:16:48,999
your destination, cars collect a startling amount of data about

2173
02:16:49,059 --> 02:16:53,851
you. From your weight. Did you pick your nose? Yes.

2174
02:16:53,871 --> 02:16:58,564
The big fat guy. But this is crazy. The amount

2175
02:16:58,624 --> 02:17:02,133
of stuff that cars are tracking and they're selling that

2176
02:17:02,213 --> 02:17:05,382
data. They're selling it. Yeah, it's getting worse. They're going

2177
02:17:05,402 --> 02:17:08,831
to disable the car if you don't look right. Yeah.

2178
02:17:09,635 --> 02:17:11,566
Well, they already do that. I know some of the

2179
02:17:11,606 --> 02:17:16,470
modern cars like... Pay attention. Stop slouching. Who wants that?

2180
02:17:16,991 --> 02:17:19,616
Nobody wants that. No, nobody wants it, but they're going

2181
02:17:19,636 --> 02:17:22,101
to be stuck with it. This way, in my opinion,

2182
02:17:22,121 --> 02:17:25,347
you find a good classic car that you like. I

2183
02:17:25,888 --> 02:17:29,434
have a Lexus that's a 2005. It's got none of

2184
02:17:29,474 --> 02:17:31,638
those features. And the bulbs are still good. You don't

2185
02:17:31,658 --> 02:17:33,253
need to take them off. And the bulbs are still

2186
02:17:33,293 --> 02:17:37,959
good, holy moly. Yeah, if you're panicking, the car will

2187
02:17:37,979 --> 02:17:43,180
be disabled. That's right. So instead we decided. It would

2188
02:17:43,200 --> 02:17:45,350
be a lot more fun, a lot more honest, and

2189
02:17:45,711 --> 02:17:47,418
we could be more honest with you. We could be

2190
02:17:47,459 --> 02:17:49,829
completely honest by just telling you exactly what we think

2191
02:17:50,351 --> 02:17:53,843
because we have are beholden to no one except to

2192
02:17:53,883 --> 02:17:58,027
each other. And we generally get along pretty well. So

2193
02:17:58,068 --> 02:18:01,034
we call it value for value. Whatever value you get

2194
02:18:01,154 --> 02:18:03,259
out of this podcast, we just ask you to send

2195
02:18:03,339 --> 02:18:05,524
it back in one of the following three ways, time,

2196
02:18:05,624 --> 02:18:08,691
talent, or treasure. We definitely need the treasure because that's

2197
02:18:08,731 --> 02:18:10,775
how we pay the bills. But the time and the

2198
02:18:10,816 --> 02:18:13,403
talent is also noteworthy. And one of the ways that

2199
02:18:13,443 --> 02:18:16,856
people do that is through creating artwork for us for

2200
02:18:17,558 --> 02:18:20,590
our album art. And let me take a look here

2201
02:18:20,630 --> 02:18:28,820
at episode 1860. seven titled transmission window ah yes This

2202
02:18:28,882 --> 02:18:34,212
was... This was our Mother's Day episode. We always... for

2203
02:18:34,353 --> 02:18:38,118
Mother's Day. This was somewhat non-traditional. Brought to you by

2204
02:18:38,158 --> 02:18:41,931
Blue Acorn. It was a mama mice, mouse, a mama

2205
02:18:41,991 --> 02:18:46,164
rat, surrounded by lots of other little baby rats. She

2206
02:18:46,224 --> 02:18:49,865
had a I love Hanta pin on. And all the

2207
02:18:50,127 --> 02:18:54,115
kids were playing with what looked like Coke. COVID molecules.

2208
02:18:55,079 --> 02:18:57,965
This was kind of sick, actually. Yeah, it was. Nice

2209
02:18:58,005 --> 02:19:01,823
you mentioned it. It was pretty though. It was well

2210
02:19:01,883 --> 02:19:04,272
done. It was pretty. And there were a lot of

2211
02:19:04,312 --> 02:19:07,222
Mother's Day art pieces that were submitted. We looked at

2212
02:19:07,422 --> 02:19:10,734
a lot of them. Let me just scroll down here.

2213
02:19:11,476 --> 02:19:14,400
Let's see. I mean, there were some very traditional ones.

2214
02:19:14,500 --> 02:19:16,725
Oh, comic strip blogger with a butt, of course. No.

2215
02:19:17,867 --> 02:19:20,433
Darren did some real traditional ones. I mean, there were

2216
02:19:20,473 --> 02:19:23,039
a lot. Why did we choose this one? I think

2217
02:19:23,520 --> 02:19:26,386
it's because it was the prettiest piece. I went to

2218
02:19:26,427 --> 02:19:29,052
the bathroom and you said, I've already chosen what I

2219
02:19:29,113 --> 02:19:31,859
like. No, I didn't do that. That's exactly what you

2220
02:19:31,899 --> 02:19:33,583
did. And I said, which one is it? And he

2221
02:19:33,623 --> 02:19:36,171
said, that one. I said, okay, that's good. It was

2222
02:19:36,191 --> 02:19:38,718
11.30 at night for me. So I think I gave

2223
02:19:38,738 --> 02:19:40,803
in. Oh, that's right. Yeah, you were easily swayed. I

2224
02:19:40,823 --> 02:19:45,026
think I gave in easily. But thank you very much,

2225
02:19:45,107 --> 02:19:49,126
Blue Acorn. We very much appreciate what you have done

2226
02:19:49,186 --> 02:19:54,691
here, along with all of the other prompters. create artwork

2227
02:19:54,771 --> 02:19:57,916
for the best podcast in the universe. Highly appreciated. Thank

2228
02:19:57,956 --> 02:20:01,001
you very much, everybody. Now to the treasure portion, which

2229
02:20:01,061 --> 02:20:04,186
is great because you can always support the show whenever

2230
02:20:04,246 --> 02:20:07,752
you want for any reason whatsoever and at any amount.

2231
02:20:08,173 --> 02:20:10,997
We don't set you at certain levels. We don't force

2232
02:20:11,037 --> 02:20:17,067
you into subscriptions. I'm gonna stop you. These notes are

2233
02:20:17,088 --> 02:20:23,188
too long. Just generally. There's two or three notes on

2234
02:20:23,229 --> 02:20:26,017
this spreadsheet that blow out my spreadsheet. They're so long.

2235
02:20:26,658 --> 02:20:30,804
There's no excuse for it. Um, yeah, they are a

2236
02:20:30,824 --> 02:20:33,860
little bit too long. And the way it works is

2237
02:20:33,920 --> 02:20:38,037
we thank everyone $50 and above, never under $50 for

2238
02:20:38,118 --> 02:20:42,962
reasons of anonymity. Which is good. And we'll, if you

2239
02:20:43,404 --> 02:20:46,134
are an executive or associate executive producer, which means you

2240
02:20:46,255 --> 02:20:51,475
reach that level by giving us $200 in support, $200

2241
02:20:51,495 --> 02:20:56,707
to $299 basically. That is associate executive producer. Now, we

2242
02:20:56,767 --> 02:20:59,051
read your note. We also give you that credit, which

2243
02:20:59,132 --> 02:21:03,560
is good anywhere that Hollywood credits are recognized, including IMDB.com.

2244
02:21:04,141 --> 02:21:07,808
$300 or above. Executive producer, same deal with the credit,

2245
02:21:07,868 --> 02:21:09,712
and we will also read your note. But yes, I'm

2246
02:21:09,752 --> 02:21:13,419
looking at the spreadsheet. Some of them are rather long.

2247
02:21:14,163 --> 02:21:16,751
But, you know, we can always... What is this one?

2248
02:21:17,523 --> 02:21:19,948
Yeah, but people also have stuff to say, John. They

2249
02:21:19,989 --> 02:21:22,394
love us. I mean, have you read the notes or

2250
02:21:22,434 --> 02:21:24,178
just looked at how long they were? I'm looking at

2251
02:21:24,218 --> 02:21:29,470
the notes and they're anecdotal stuff that is off the

2252
02:21:29,510 --> 02:21:37,652
topic. Not. Really interesting. I'm not happy with these notes.

2253
02:21:38,075 --> 02:21:41,509
Okay. Well, we're going to read them anyway. We may

2254
02:21:41,589 --> 02:21:44,140
shorten them on the fly. I think shortening them is

2255
02:21:44,220 --> 02:21:47,838
in order, at least with three of them. No. That

2256
02:21:47,898 --> 02:21:52,167
said, coming in at the top spot. Yeah, if you

2257
02:21:52,207 --> 02:21:56,612
want to drop 3,400. $44 and leave a huge long

2258
02:21:56,693 --> 02:22:02,488
note. Yes. No problem. That can only come from certain.

2259
02:22:02,508 --> 02:22:07,160
That's different than 200 bucks. Wow. I'm sorry. That may

2260
02:22:07,200 --> 02:22:09,607
be a lot for some people, John. It is a

2261
02:22:09,667 --> 02:22:11,853
lot for a lot of people, but it's also a

2262
02:22:11,953 --> 02:22:16,682
lot of note to read. Yes. Sironymous of Dogpatch and

2263
02:22:16,742 --> 02:22:21,031
Lower Slobovia comes in with indeed $3,444 and has a

2264
02:22:21,572 --> 02:22:24,198
note. And he says, thank you to all producers that

2265
02:22:24,238 --> 02:22:28,507
contribute to the information flow. The barrage of media influencing

2266
02:22:28,587 --> 02:22:33,317
listeners' opinion requires insight and perspective to deconstruct their effort

2267
02:22:33,357 --> 02:22:38,265
to influence. audiences. Simply, it takes work to identify propaganda

2268
02:22:38,426 --> 02:22:41,157
and its intent. And we're not sure why, but we're

2269
02:22:41,177 --> 02:22:45,042
pretty sure he knows that it's true. We all look

2270
02:22:45,444 --> 02:22:48,256
towards some future point tomorrow, next week, next year to

2271
02:22:48,316 --> 02:22:52,654
identify a path forward. Media deconstruction separates words and are

2272
02:22:52,694 --> 02:22:54,955
you building something for my Kia what are you doing

2273
02:22:55,055 --> 02:23:01,199
yeah I'm putting together a shelf media deconstruction Hold on

2274
02:23:01,281 --> 02:23:04,289
a second. It really does sound like it. Throughout the

2275
02:23:04,329 --> 02:23:07,359
show, you're banging around, you're doing things like, are you

2276
02:23:07,379 --> 02:23:12,074
putting together something from Ikea? Media deconstruction separates words and

2277
02:23:12,114 --> 02:23:15,290
opinion from deeds and consequences. to help develop a more

2278
02:23:15,370 --> 02:23:19,176
realistic estimate of the future state to base one's decisions

2279
02:23:19,337 --> 02:23:23,429
on. This year's international travel has required intensified effort to

2280
02:23:23,509 --> 02:23:27,561
understand the messaging across political borders and cultures. He's talking

2281
02:23:27,581 --> 02:23:31,010
about his own travel. Recent months have disrupted the status

2282
02:23:31,071 --> 02:23:34,744
quo and people, firms, and countries are using this. opportunity

2283
02:23:34,805 --> 02:23:37,806
to shift policies they could not do during periods of

2284
02:23:37,906 --> 02:23:41,829
peace and prosperity. Wow, that's a good point. I am

2285
02:23:41,909 --> 02:23:45,051
not judging good or bad, just shifts to identify likely

2286
02:23:45,131 --> 02:23:50,407
consequences and opportunities. And then he has in parentheses, Caterpillar

2287
02:23:50,447 --> 02:23:55,971
does reconstruction after all. you It's true. He's a caterpillar

2288
02:23:56,012 --> 02:24:01,798
salesman. No Agenda's media deconstruction, aided by producers, separates words

2289
02:24:01,878 --> 02:24:08,129
from deeds, a valuable, underappreciated, and apparently undercompensated skill. I

2290
02:24:08,209 --> 02:24:13,138
encourage others to support media, a.k.a. propaganda deconstruction, and now

2291
02:24:13,258 --> 02:24:16,810
surrender my time. to other producers. No jingles, no karma

2292
02:24:17,332 --> 02:24:21,788
from Sir Dogpatch of, Sir Animas of Dogpatch and Lower

2293
02:24:21,808 --> 02:24:26,059
Slobovia and we are very grateful. Thank you. Yes, James

2294
02:24:26,140 --> 02:24:30,536
Borders, we're also grateful to him from Cap- Cape. Uh...

2295
02:24:31,371 --> 02:24:42,020
Gerado, Gerado, Gerado. Garrardo in Missouri, $1,030.26. Wow. And he

2296
02:24:42,103 --> 02:24:47,867
writes, fellow bypass survivor. Four vessels in 2018, I need

2297
02:24:47,927 --> 02:24:54,980
a de-douching. You've been de-douched. He's gonna be ignited. So

2298
02:24:55,041 --> 02:24:59,704
he wants Pappy's ribs and a few shiners, shiner buck,

2299
02:24:59,744 --> 02:25:01,433
I guess, at the round table. I would like to

2300
02:25:01,493 --> 02:25:08,227
be known as Sir. boobalot of the boot heel. Okay.

2301
02:25:08,903 --> 02:25:13,128
see additional donation. Does he have an additional donation? I

2302
02:25:13,148 --> 02:25:17,586
don't know. I didn't see it. Okay. Thank you. And

2303
02:25:17,626 --> 02:25:20,371
we'll see the red heart, a red knight as well.

2304
02:25:20,872 --> 02:25:26,863
Jeffrey Hirsch, Cherry Hill Township, New Jersey, $1,030.26. That's $1,000

2305
02:25:27,624 --> 02:25:31,171
plus fees. Thank you. Longtime douchebag, may I please request

2306
02:25:31,251 --> 02:25:38,070
a de-douche? You've been de-douched. He says also some new

2307
02:25:38,191 --> 02:25:41,648
business prayers and a Rev Al Sharpton mix would be

2308
02:25:41,708 --> 02:25:45,266
great. I'm actually going to play a classic teleprompter for

2309
02:25:45,306 --> 02:25:47,696
you. I'm a newly saved Christian and my wife and

2310
02:25:47,736 --> 02:25:51,046
I have started an e-comm fulfillment business in South Jersey.

2311
02:25:51,507 --> 02:25:55,719
I connected with Manuka Gold. I connected with Manuka Gold.

2312
02:25:55,699 --> 02:25:57,882
After hearing your mention of them on the show and

2313
02:25:57,922 --> 02:26:00,286
thought I would offer my services to any listener that

2314
02:26:00,346 --> 02:26:03,470
is trying to sell their products through e-commerce channels, please

2315
02:26:03,511 --> 02:26:09,600
visit cornerstoneknf.com for any fulfillment needs. I would like to

2316
02:26:09,640 --> 02:26:13,145
be called Sir Saifu El Padrino. I think it's Sifu

2317
02:26:13,185 --> 02:26:18,232
or Saifu. Saifu? Sir Saifu El Padrino, Knight of E-Commerce

2318
02:26:18,292 --> 02:26:21,798
Fulfillment. Thank you both for your courage and continued good

2319
02:26:21,838 --> 02:26:24,682
health to you both. God bless, he says. And I

2320
02:26:25,063 --> 02:26:29,069
guess he wants, instead of karma, he wants the prayer

2321
02:26:29,250 --> 02:26:33,877
instead of karma, which we have on top. Tonight is

2322
02:26:33,977 --> 02:26:38,785
the measure. of whether the country begins in the state

2323
02:26:38,845 --> 02:26:43,710
of Wisconsin a national drive to push back. or whether

2324
02:26:43,770 --> 02:26:47,465
we have more to go to build a movement of

2325
02:26:47,546 --> 02:26:53,337
resistance but resist we much We must and we will

2326
02:26:53,418 --> 02:27:04,547
much. about That be committed. You've got it. prayers. There

2327
02:27:04,568 --> 02:27:08,034
you go. This one here is easy to cut down.

2328
02:27:08,054 --> 02:27:11,372
It's a long note from Christy Kamenitsky in Covington, Georgia.

2329
02:27:11,392 --> 02:27:17,110
$500. ITM John and Adam. Dedicated twice a week or

2330
02:27:17,571 --> 02:27:20,060
since the crazy days of COVID, first-time donor to the

2331
02:27:20,100 --> 02:27:28,143
show, please de-douche me. You've been de-douched. I will shorten

2332
02:27:28,204 --> 02:27:30,637
this part here. She talks about how great you are

2333
02:27:30,677 --> 02:27:33,613
because you answered her letter and showed her where to

2334
02:27:33,673 --> 02:27:36,049
go in the hill. country because she was making a

2335
02:27:36,129 --> 02:27:38,773
visit. She also wanted to say how happy she was

2336
02:27:38,833 --> 02:27:41,077
that I'm on the road to recover. Her dad had

2337
02:27:41,518 --> 02:27:45,324
quadruple bypass surgery in December. So I know firsthand what

2338
02:27:45,384 --> 02:27:49,750
a brutal experience the whole thing is. It's great having

2339
02:27:49,871 --> 02:27:54,157
two peas back in the pot, although I thoroughly enjoyed

2340
02:27:54,237 --> 02:27:58,353
my Mimi. filling in during John's absence. Thank you both

2341
02:27:58,393 --> 02:28:00,141
for all you do to help keep us sane and

2342
02:28:00,181 --> 02:28:04,789
grounded in an increasingly insane world. Cheers! Christy. Thank you,

2343
02:28:04,830 --> 02:28:10,904
Christy, very much. Sarcastic, Glenmore, Pennsylvania, 33333. And he says,

2344
02:28:11,489 --> 02:28:14,130
Archduke Kevin Dills made me realize what a slacker I

2345
02:28:14,150 --> 02:28:15,219
am. This donation makes me feel like I'm a slacker.

2346
02:28:15,199 --> 02:28:30,451
John will appreciate the new location. Chester County. Any reason

2347
02:28:30,511 --> 02:28:37,908
why you'd appreciate that? No jingles, no karma. Well, maybe

2348
02:28:37,928 --> 02:28:42,236
because it had my chest operated on. It's a stretch,

2349
02:28:42,336 --> 02:28:44,861
but yeah, anything's possible. It is a stretch. You have

2350
02:28:44,881 --> 02:28:46,824
to read the next one because it completely takes out

2351
02:28:46,864 --> 02:28:51,232
my spreadsheet. David McInnes, Bernie, Texas. Hey, Bernie, home of

2352
02:28:51,332 --> 02:28:56,533
the new Housewives of Texas. or The Secret Lives of

2353
02:28:56,613 --> 02:28:58,956
Texas Wives. It's going to be in Bernie, which is

2354
02:28:58,976 --> 02:29:02,722
30 minutes down the road. Perfect. You should get involved.

2355
02:29:02,902 --> 02:29:05,085
I don't think so. Gents, it's Dave McInnes of Bernie,

2356
02:29:05,105 --> 02:29:07,368
Texas. No jingles, no karma. This brings me one payment

2357
02:29:07,408 --> 02:29:09,631
closer to knighthood. I would happily do PR for the

2358
02:29:09,672 --> 02:29:12,115
best podcast in the universe. In fact, I ran about

2359
02:29:12,195 --> 02:29:16,167
six press releases around episode 1700. Oh, this is our

2360
02:29:16,207 --> 02:29:21,360
guy. Yeah, it's our guy. The PR web guy. He's

2361
02:29:21,400 --> 02:29:24,329
a good PR guy because he's wordy. I ran about

2362
02:29:24,369 --> 02:29:27,417
six press releases around episode 1700. Then I decided I

2363
02:29:27,538 --> 02:29:30,165
should probably collaborate with someone on them. And well, I

2364
02:29:30,246 --> 02:29:32,211
dropped the ball. Happy to pick that back up again.

2365
02:29:32,231 --> 02:29:34,518
Yes, please do. And for the rest of you, with

2366
02:29:34,558 --> 02:29:37,304
my news... marketing book releases on Amazon, the free download

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will probably go away. So go grab your copy now

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at newsmarketingbook.com slash ITM. Inside the download instructions, you'll find

2369
02:29:45,540 --> 02:29:48,967
a little treat, almost as sweet as Manuka honey, a

2370
02:29:49,047 --> 02:29:51,913
courtesy code that lets you test the principles I outline

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in the book for free. That's a $129 sale. There

2372
02:29:55,401 --> 02:30:00,367
you go. Oh, and along the way, that's a new...

2373
02:30:00,723 --> 02:30:04,774
Marketing donation, $129. And along the way, you'll also learn

2374
02:30:04,814 --> 02:30:07,120
the name of my new service. For now, just grab

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02:30:07,160 --> 02:30:11,730
your copy. A number of you already have. That's newsmarketingbook.com

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02:30:12,111 --> 02:30:17,088
slash ITM. Sincerely, David A. McInnes. Thank you, David. Baroness

2377
02:30:17,514 --> 02:30:24,786
Isabel Pearson of She's French. Yeah, she's French. She's in

2378
02:30:25,047 --> 02:30:35,288
Montlazoun. Montlazoun. Montlazoun, France. In France. Montlazoun. 288. She's the

2379
02:30:35,328 --> 02:30:39,736
Baroness, Isabel Pearson of Gears. Because you are both worth

2380
02:30:39,796 --> 02:30:45,305
it, I miss JCD terribly, and it's exceptional having him

2381
02:30:45,365 --> 02:30:50,613
back to celebrate. I'm lunching the first South of France

2382
02:30:50,713 --> 02:30:54,489
meetup on Friday. Launching. Launching. She said lunching there. Yeah,

2383
02:30:54,509 --> 02:30:57,909
but launching is what it should be. South of France

2384
02:30:57,970 --> 02:31:03,100
meet up on Friday, the 5th, 22, the 22nd of

2385
02:31:03,400 --> 02:31:11,255
May at Pure Garder's Marchsiac. So calling all European revelers.

2386
02:31:12,197 --> 02:31:14,343
It's a train ride. Of course, I live in hope

2387
02:31:14,403 --> 02:31:16,711
that one day I may welcome you two gentlemen to

2388
02:31:16,771 --> 02:31:20,563
my wonderful retreat. Yes. She's got a retreat. Yeah. Yeah.

2389
02:31:20,724 --> 02:31:25,348
It's in Gers. In Gers. Keep up the good work.

2390
02:31:25,895 --> 02:31:30,689
Baroness Isabel. Good. You know, I might pop up one

2391
02:31:30,729 --> 02:31:35,784
day. Be careful. Tina and I, we love the... The

2392
02:31:35,824 --> 02:31:38,712
country. We love the French country. It's a place to

2393
02:31:38,752 --> 02:31:41,800
go now. It is. James Borders comes in with $2.26

2394
02:31:42,141 --> 02:31:45,891
and $0.28 from Cape Girardeau. Oh, this is the guy.

2395
02:31:45,971 --> 02:31:48,708
This is his double donation. Ah, there he is. There

2396
02:31:48,728 --> 02:31:51,553
he is, James. Thank you. He's in Missouri. Companion donation

2397
02:31:51,573 --> 02:31:53,993
for my Red Knight. donation today since I make most

2398
02:31:54,033 --> 02:31:56,700
of my money looking at boobs all day. What kind

2399
02:31:56,740 --> 02:31:58,685
of job is that? What kind of job is that?

2400
02:31:59,628 --> 02:32:05,242
So he combined $80.80 for the boobs with $60.06 for

2401
02:32:05,282 --> 02:32:10,054
the small boobs. And $80.06, he says, most women aren't

2402
02:32:10,114 --> 02:32:14,765
symmetric, plus fees. He wants an F cancer karma. Well,

2403
02:32:14,785 --> 02:32:23,918
you got it, my friend. You've got karma. This is

2404
02:32:23,958 --> 02:32:27,006
the one that you got mad about. There's another long

2405
02:32:27,107 --> 02:32:30,850
note. You got it. I can't read it. Vinnie Payne

2406
02:32:30,910 --> 02:32:35,107
and Baton Rouge. Louisiana, a long row of ducks, 222.22.

2407
02:32:35,427 --> 02:32:39,297
ITM, thank you for your courage. XYZ, PDQ, BSS, long-time

2408
02:32:39,337 --> 02:32:46,810
listener, long-time douchebag, please de-douche me. You've been de-douched. Yeah,

2409
02:32:46,850 --> 02:32:48,683
you've had my time and talent for over a decade

2410
02:32:48,723 --> 02:32:50,536
and now a piece of treasure. You have a bag

2411
02:32:50,596 --> 02:32:53,245
of ducks. please reserve the name for me, Sir Vin

2412
02:32:53,305 --> 02:32:56,734
Payne. Oh, Sir Vin Payne. I got it. Yes. It's

2413
02:32:56,794 --> 02:32:59,080
reserved. I'm working on a project calling all dudes named

2414
02:32:59,100 --> 02:33:01,887
Ben, all autists, and anyone in or dealing with people

2415
02:33:01,927 --> 02:33:05,557
in customer service. I'm creating a podcast series called Techin'

2416
02:33:05,657 --> 02:33:08,612
Checkin'. Working to be a human in a sea of

2417
02:33:08,753 --> 02:33:11,621
ones and zeros, our greatest advantage over AI, we've focus

2418
02:33:11,702 --> 02:33:15,381
on fixing both the computer and the customer. Oh, that's

2419
02:33:15,481 --> 02:33:19,284
actually a pretty good idea. Short episode. You got to

2420
02:33:19,364 --> 02:33:22,868
fix the customer. You're right. Short episodes around 10 minutes

2421
02:33:22,949 --> 02:33:25,197
each on a variety of relevant topics. I'll add them

2422
02:33:25,237 --> 02:33:28,388
to Spotify next month. Don't bother. Right now, they are

2423
02:33:28,488 --> 02:33:33,880
at my website, www. check in a tech in check

2424
02:33:34,100 --> 02:33:37,147
in.com. That's tech with an H and check with a

2425
02:33:37,187 --> 02:33:40,013
K. Please share with anyone who could benefit. I've actually

2426
02:33:40,053 --> 02:33:42,459
heard it. It's a fun podcast. I too am working

2427
02:33:42,499 --> 02:33:44,323
on the value for value model. On that note, you

2428
02:33:44,383 --> 02:33:46,387
are worth much more than a bag of ducks to

2429
02:33:46,427 --> 02:33:49,073
me started listening when my daughter was born. She's 16.

2430
02:33:49,133 --> 02:33:51,719
Now, you have definitely helped me stay sane in a

2431
02:33:51,699 --> 02:33:54,605
crazy world and I am hopeful my podcast can help

2432
02:33:54,725 --> 02:33:56,468
others do the same. Thank you for what you do.

2433
02:33:56,508 --> 02:33:59,594
Sincerely, Vinny. Thank you, Vinny. Should I do this one

2434
02:33:59,634 --> 02:34:03,561
too? Yeah, you might as well. Dame Rodeo Queen from

2435
02:34:03,782 --> 02:34:08,731
Oral, South Dakota. $210.60 ITM. John Adam wanted to thank

2436
02:34:08,751 --> 02:34:12,819
you for episode 1866 and share testimony of divine intervention.

2437
02:34:13,691 --> 02:34:16,143
In the episode, you guys talked about SSRIs and the

2438
02:34:16,203 --> 02:34:18,253
negative side effects. A couple of days later, I had

2439
02:34:18,314 --> 02:34:22,837
a family member struggling with extremely bad thoughts. Thankfully, they

2440
02:34:22,938 --> 02:34:25,065
asked for help. I immediately thought of your episode and

2441
02:34:25,106 --> 02:34:28,799
the discussion about SSRIs. Sure enough, they were prescribed them

2442
02:34:28,839 --> 02:34:31,971
from a primary care physician and no follow-up was done

2443
02:34:32,011 --> 02:34:34,119
to see how my family member was reacting to them.

2444
02:34:34,511 --> 02:34:36,975
They're in the hospital now getting the professional help they

2445
02:34:37,035 --> 02:34:39,799
need and praying we can find therapies and tools to

2446
02:34:39,839 --> 02:34:42,042
help my family member with their mental health and not

2447
02:34:42,082 --> 02:34:45,146
have to be medicated. Jesus works for good in all

2448
02:34:45,206 --> 02:34:48,070
ways, even through podcasts. Well, I'm happy to hear this.

2449
02:34:48,771 --> 02:34:51,415
Yeah, I'm telling you this. What has happened to the

2450
02:34:51,515 --> 02:34:57,131
doctoring in this country? providers. They are literally called providers.

2451
02:34:58,159 --> 02:35:02,363
There's no doctoring. Did you want more of an answer

2452
02:35:02,463 --> 02:35:05,552
or does that suffice? No, just keep talking. Thank you

2453
02:35:05,572 --> 02:35:08,160
for talking about the tough topics that some might think

2454
02:35:08,221 --> 02:35:10,126
are too difficult. This is getting so long, but to

2455
02:35:10,207 --> 02:35:12,534
answer your question, Adam, for my last note, I do

2456
02:35:12,634 --> 02:35:16,061
barrel race as well as row. Oh, yee-haw! But when

2457
02:35:16,143 --> 02:35:20,588
I was Miss Rodeo America. You are an ambassador, but

2458
02:35:20,648 --> 02:35:23,615
when I was Miss Rodeo America, you are an ambassador

2459
02:35:23,695 --> 02:35:27,444
for the Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association. I did ride a

2460
02:35:27,504 --> 02:35:29,629
horse at a lot of rodeos and in parades, but

2461
02:35:29,649 --> 02:35:31,854
I also did a lot of interacting with fans and

2462
02:35:31,914 --> 02:35:34,941
promoting rodeo. I'm enjoying getting back. to competing now and

2463
02:35:35,001 --> 02:35:38,568
still enjoying everything rodeo. Praying you guys never find an

2464
02:35:38,608 --> 02:35:42,476
exit strategy. Donate people. We need the best podcast in

2465
02:35:42,636 --> 02:35:47,125
the universe, says Dame Rodeo Queen. And if you ride

2466
02:35:47,145 --> 02:35:49,890
any rodeo near us here in Fredericksburg, let us know.

2467
02:35:50,251 --> 02:35:52,395
Tina and I would love to come and see you

2468
02:35:52,475 --> 02:35:57,301
ride. Barrel Race! - Mm-hmm. Well, this is a rodeo

2469
02:35:57,382 --> 02:36:05,138
queen telling people to donate. Yes, and she's correct. Carol

2470
02:36:05,380 --> 02:36:09,335
Goodman in Willow City, Texas. Actually, Fredericksburg. Take it back.

2471
02:36:09,883 --> 02:36:13,519
Since you read my email a couple of shows back.

2472
02:36:13,591 --> 02:36:18,718
I feel it's time to de-douche me. You've been de-douched.

2473
02:36:19,039 --> 02:36:23,064
One day I'll figure out this Dame Baroness Knight thing.

2474
02:36:23,425 --> 02:36:26,369
But for now, I salute you and JCD. Thank you

2475
02:36:26,409 --> 02:36:31,316
for your service. As a late attendee to the No

2476
02:36:31,336 --> 02:36:34,251
Agenda podcast, I definitely don't want... To see it go

2477
02:36:34,311 --> 02:36:38,592
away, keep it coming. Thank you, Carol Goodman Fredericksburg. First

2478
02:36:38,653 --> 02:36:41,990
time donation, $2,060. I met Carol at church the other

2479
02:36:42,010 --> 02:36:46,338
day. She's one of the few who listen and go

2480
02:36:46,378 --> 02:36:49,287
to church and actually donates. We appreciate it. Well, that

2481
02:36:49,327 --> 02:36:54,954
is unusual for that group. Yes. Hello, group. Sir Mike

2482
02:36:55,015 --> 02:37:01,546
the Fortunate. He's in Fuku. Fuchsia. Fuchsia. Fuchsia Verena. I

2483
02:37:01,606 --> 02:37:03,231
always get correct. We know how to say it. I

2484
02:37:03,251 --> 02:37:06,359
think it's Fuchsia Verena. I thought it was Fuchsia Verena.

2485
02:37:06,379 --> 02:37:08,905
No, no, it's Fuchsia. Fuchsia. I'm quite sure. It's Fuchsia,

2486
02:37:08,925 --> 02:37:13,176
not Fuchsia. Don't email. $200. Associate Executive Producer. And Sir

2487
02:37:13,216 --> 02:37:19,062
Mike says, Dear Abby. Like, like, like dear Abby. Yeah.

2488
02:37:19,122 --> 02:37:21,548
Dear Abby. I own a, Oh, I've read this email,

2489
02:37:21,849 --> 02:37:25,117
a very small residential real estate brokerage outside of Raleigh,

2490
02:37:25,137 --> 02:37:28,445
North Carolina. I've completed two value for value listings with

2491
02:37:28,485 --> 02:37:31,893
repeat clients in the past year, and both voluntarily paid

2492
02:37:31,953 --> 02:37:35,568
me more than I would have charged them outright. Interesting.

2493
02:37:36,019 --> 02:37:39,306
When I presented this idea, both parties were hesitant and

2494
02:37:39,346 --> 02:37:41,611
wanted me to give them a set fee. I told

2495
02:37:41,651 --> 02:37:43,475
them I wanted to earn my fee and leave it

2496
02:37:43,495 --> 02:37:45,379
to them to decide what it was worth when their

2497
02:37:45,400 --> 02:37:48,125
home was sold. It's work with people I know and

2498
02:37:48,166 --> 02:37:51,573
trust, but offering this to everyone is another beast altogether.

2499
02:37:51,593 --> 02:37:54,319
I've pitched the idea to friends and family. They'll never.

2500
02:37:54,299 --> 02:37:57,888
You're an idiot. Over the past few years, and nearly

2501
02:37:57,968 --> 02:38:00,574
everyone tells me I'm a fool. There you go. To

2502
02:38:00,634 --> 02:38:03,661
have that kind of faith in most people. The opportunity

2503
02:38:03,701 --> 02:38:06,508
to get royally screwed is huge, but I can't think

2504
02:38:06,568 --> 02:38:08,733
of a better way to earn my clients' trust and

2505
02:38:08,813 --> 02:38:12,121
prove my worth. Am I just being too naive? Love

2506
02:38:12,201 --> 02:38:15,063
the show. Well, that's a good- question i mean so

2507
02:38:15,103 --> 02:38:19,020
he's had he's gotten more fees on value for value

2508
02:38:19,060 --> 02:38:25,597
from two people already Um... With repeat clients, What do

2509
02:38:25,617 --> 02:38:27,851
you think? Should he continue? I need to even out.

2510
02:38:28,399 --> 02:38:30,776
I think so too. I mean, the value for value

2511
02:38:30,836 --> 02:38:34,432
lifestyle, by the way, it is an international lifestyle. It

2512
02:38:35,615 --> 02:38:39,705
is. Yeah, that's a ticket. The value for value is

2513
02:38:39,745 --> 02:38:42,672
an international lifestyle, and it can be a bit of

2514
02:38:42,692 --> 02:38:51,213
a roller coaster. Yeah, but it encourages volunteerism. Yeah, in

2515
02:38:51,277 --> 02:38:54,361
a... People will help you for free. People will help

2516
02:38:54,421 --> 02:38:58,248
you. People will, yes, thank you. That's a very good

2517
02:38:58,509 --> 02:39:02,276
way of looking at it. And sometimes maybe how someone

2518
02:39:02,576 --> 02:39:04,761
who may not have given you a lot of value

2519
02:39:05,302 --> 02:39:08,889
monetarily could help you in other ways. Yeah, and you

2520
02:39:08,909 --> 02:39:10,893
can every once in a while run into a seronymous.

2521
02:39:11,494 --> 02:39:15,187
Yeah, exactly. And it evens out your year. That's exactly

2522
02:39:15,207 --> 02:39:18,381
right. So I would love for you to report back,

2523
02:39:18,863 --> 02:39:23,305
donate and let us know how it's going. And here's

2524
02:39:23,346 --> 02:39:28,108
Linda Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado. Jobs Karma, your resume

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02:39:28,570 --> 02:39:30,881
has about 10 seconds to make an impression and most

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don't. For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakers,

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Inc. dot com Linda helps professionals and executives turn their

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02:39:39,822 --> 02:39:44,293
experience into a clear story of leadership, results, and impact.

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That's ImageMakers, Inc. with a K. And Linda Liu, Duchess

2530
02:39:47,983 --> 02:39:53,456
of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs,

2531
02:39:53,677 --> 02:40:04,766
and jobs. Thank you, Crash. Yes, it's Fuquayvarina. Yeah, that's

2532
02:40:04,786 --> 02:40:09,759
what I said. No, you were like, Fuqua. Fuqua. Fu...

2533
02:40:10,243 --> 02:40:14,315
Fuquay, Verena. From now on, it's just somewhere in North

2534
02:40:14,355 --> 02:40:18,948
Carolina. And we have another $200 associate executive producer on

2535
02:40:18,988 --> 02:40:24,083
the list, Jeroen van Heringen. In Foothill Ranch, California, and

2536
02:40:24,164 --> 02:40:26,170
I pronounce it the Dutch way because he says, I

2537
02:40:26,251 --> 02:40:29,541
already listened to Adam's legendary Dutch radio show with Jeroen,

2538
02:40:29,722 --> 02:40:33,434
my namesake, in the 80s. Your insights wrapped in genuine

2539
02:40:33,535 --> 02:40:36,943
entertainment stuck with me. for decades. Thank you for that

2540
02:40:37,045 --> 02:40:41,321
gift. It's the gift that keeps on giving. And that

2541
02:40:41,361 --> 02:40:44,536
is it for our executive and associate executive producers for

2542
02:40:44,576 --> 02:40:51,609
episode 1,868. Thank you all very much. The formula is

2543
02:40:51,670 --> 02:41:10,729
this. We hit people in the mouth. with the rundown

2544
02:41:10,769 --> 02:41:14,112
of the rest of our value supporters, $50 and above.

2545
02:41:14,173 --> 02:41:17,283
Sir Arthur Goebbels. the biggest hugger of kitties in Zaandam,

2546
02:41:17,303 --> 02:41:22,233
the Netherlands. 123.45. And he needs an extra health karma

2547
02:41:23,015 --> 02:41:25,400
for three senior kitties. Yes, we'll put that at the

2548
02:41:25,480 --> 02:41:33,997
end for you. Teletnek. Arlington, Washington. $100.09. Donation in honor

2549
02:41:34,037 --> 02:41:36,104
of my late mom who watched... MTV in the 80s

2550
02:41:36,165 --> 02:41:38,335
and recognized Adam when I listened to the podcast with

2551
02:41:38,375 --> 02:41:41,008
her. She listened to Bon Jovi at such high volume

2552
02:41:41,028 --> 02:41:46,154
that she had hearing loss. Really? Metallica? Yeah. Bon Jovi?

2553
02:41:46,558 --> 02:41:51,157
Hmm. Robert Peta, Sacramento, California, $100. And, oh, he says,

2554
02:41:51,218 --> 02:41:54,214
interview with Scott Adams was excellent. Uniquely, John C. Dvorak

2555
02:41:54,274 --> 02:41:57,524
must be listening to back. back episodes. And there's Sir

2556
02:41:57,544 --> 02:42:00,449
Kevin McLaughlin. He is the Archduke of Luna, lover of

2557
02:42:00,469 --> 02:42:03,976
America and boobs in Concord, North Carolina with $80.08. He

2558
02:42:04,177 --> 02:42:07,944
says, God bless America and boobs. Dame Rita, Sparks, Nevada.

2559
02:42:07,964 --> 02:42:12,714
She's always there. Almost every single episode, $68.33. Chad Hewitt,

2560
02:42:12,774 --> 02:42:17,443
Folsom, California, $66.40. Stephen Schuch. You make Xenia, Ohio, $64.80.

2561
02:42:17,804 --> 02:42:21,030
Christopher Dector, $5,678. We see what you did there. Thank

2562
02:42:21,070 --> 02:42:24,056
you. Sir Patrick Coble, he's at double nickels on the

2563
02:42:24,096 --> 02:42:28,164
dime, $55.10. And he says the Toronto meetup was just

2564
02:42:28,245 --> 02:42:32,653
a party of two, but it was with a former

2565
02:42:32,733 --> 02:42:36,324
Russian merchant marine and a former U.S. marine. talking about

2566
02:42:36,364 --> 02:42:39,144
the world and all things with some great food, ITM

2567
02:42:39,165 --> 02:42:43,850
to all, and get to a meetup, he says. I

2568
02:42:43,870 --> 02:42:46,196
love that you do those things, Sir Patrick. Duke, Sir

2569
02:42:46,216 --> 02:42:49,965
Dr. Sharkey, St. Peter's, Missouri, 5510, double nickels on the

2570
02:42:50,045 --> 02:42:54,075
dime. Sir Chris of Sach, Sach, Sach, I'm sure it's

2571
02:42:54,095 --> 02:43:01,316
Sachse, Texas. S-A-C-H-S-E, Saxy, I think. $53.33. And he wants

2572
02:43:01,396 --> 02:43:03,380
us to add Sydney to the birthday list. Sydney turns

2573
02:43:03,400 --> 02:43:08,228
14 today. Luke Munnell, Los Angeles, California, $52.72. Joseph A.

2574
02:43:08,328 --> 02:43:14,458
Jr., Locust Grove, Virginia, $50.01. Requesting a de-douching on his

2575
02:43:14,558 --> 02:43:20,270
father's... behalf you've been dedouched mr joe a senior will

2576
02:43:20,290 --> 02:43:22,395
be turning 38 next week has been listening to the

2577
02:43:22,415 --> 02:43:25,661
show for years without donating so he has been a

2578
02:43:25,742 --> 02:43:28,227
douche too long thanks for giving him a show to

2579
02:43:28,267 --> 02:43:30,612
listen to and godspeed thank you here are the 50s

2580
02:43:31,013 --> 02:43:33,959
gary mao woodland hills california where all the uh the

2581
02:43:34,019 --> 02:43:39,888
tech uh investors live 50. jeremy silver bridgeport connecticut uh

2582
02:43:40,230 --> 02:43:43,408
he just had his first actually it's woodside world I

2583
02:43:43,428 --> 02:43:46,880
thought it was Woodland. Oh, you're right. Woodside. Woodland Hills.

2584
02:43:46,920 --> 02:43:49,268
Woodland Hills is in Southern California, I believe. It's a

2585
02:43:49,308 --> 02:43:52,299
ghetto. It's a ghetto. Yeah. That's where our people live.

2586
02:43:52,815 --> 02:43:56,163
Jeremy Silver and Bridgeport. Connecticut. He says that he had

2587
02:43:56,283 --> 02:44:00,031
a baby on Friday. We will add some human resource

2588
02:44:00,071 --> 02:44:02,796
karma for you. Brandon Savoie, here's a name I haven't

2589
02:44:02,837 --> 02:44:07,326
heard in a bit. Port Orchard, Washington. Patricia Worthington, Dame

2590
02:44:07,346 --> 02:44:11,734
Patricia Worthington, Miami, Florida. Kevin Dills, Huntersville, North Carolina. Sir

2591
02:44:11,795 --> 02:44:15,022
Luke Rayner in London. Karma? We've got a lot of

2592
02:44:15,042 --> 02:44:19,714
Karmas coming up here. Easy Landscapes, North Stonington, Connecticut. Philip

2593
02:44:19,914 --> 02:44:24,727
Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky. Sir Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park,

2594
02:44:24,847 --> 02:44:29,660
Alberta. Sir Alan Bean in Beaverton, Oregon. Barron. Barron. You

2595
02:44:29,700 --> 02:44:33,774
remember one guy. And you always correct me. That's because

2596
02:44:33,856 --> 02:44:38,867
that guy has been... The longest donor of ever. Ever.

2597
02:44:38,888 --> 02:44:42,455
Of ever. Baron Sir Alan Bean, Beaverton, Oregon. Thank you,

2598
02:44:42,495 --> 02:44:47,687
Baron. And Ox Othorix in Buffalo, New York. He says,

2599
02:44:47,767 --> 02:44:51,595
sickened by sycophants, your humble beast of burden, Ox Othorix.

2600
02:44:52,047 --> 02:44:54,277
Buffalo, New York. Thank you all so much. Did he

2601
02:44:54,338 --> 02:44:57,064
ask? for a de-douching? Yes, he did. No, he didn't.

2602
02:44:57,425 --> 02:45:01,533
I'll give him one. Why not? You've been de-douched. Thank

2603
02:45:01,554 --> 02:45:03,878
you all very much for supporting your No Agenda show.

2604
02:45:03,918 --> 02:45:07,686
Go to noagendadonations.com. That is the easiest way to support

2605
02:45:07,746 --> 02:45:11,273
us, noagendadonations.com. The groovy thing is, it is value for

2606
02:45:11,333 --> 02:45:14,119
value, so you can give us any amount whenever you...

2607
02:45:14,099 --> 02:45:16,343
If you like it, whenever it moves you and you

2608
02:45:16,384 --> 02:45:19,249
say, yeah, you know, I want these guys to continue.

2609
02:45:19,750 --> 02:45:24,099
And here's my way of contributing to it. Noagendadonations.com. Any

2610
02:45:24,159 --> 02:45:26,343
amount, any frequency. If you want to set up a

2611
02:45:26,424 --> 02:45:29,690
recurring donation, go and do it. Donate to the show.

2612
02:45:29,770 --> 02:45:41,534
Noagendadonations.com. Sir Christopher Saxey wishing Sydney a very happy birthday.

2613
02:45:41,554 --> 02:45:45,342
Sydney turns 14 today. Happy birthday, Sydney. Eric, happy birthday

2614
02:45:45,382 --> 02:45:51,213
to Lauren Palawoda, Palawoda, celebrating tomorrow. And Joseph Adriani Jr.

2615
02:45:51,614 --> 02:45:54,580
wishes his dad, Joe A. Sr., a very happy birthday

2616
02:45:54,641 --> 02:45:58,352
he turns 38 how young are you joseph happy birthday

2617
02:45:58,873 --> 02:46:00,698
to all of these people from everybody here at the

2618
02:46:00,739 --> 02:46:07,820
best podcast in the universe here we go I'm trying

2619
02:46:09,359 --> 02:46:15,501
and face the slayers. Don't wanna be Yes, we do

2620
02:46:15,541 --> 02:46:19,730
have that title change. Sarcastic, as we heard. He is

2621
02:46:19,790 --> 02:46:24,339
now a baron and requested the peerage of Chester County,

2622
02:46:24,379 --> 02:46:28,347
Pennsylvania. So absolutely, we give that to you. Sarcastic, Baron

2623
02:46:28,387 --> 02:46:32,254
of Chester County, Pennsylvania. Thank you very much and welcome

2624
02:46:32,335 --> 02:46:35,807
to this next level of the... peerage ladder my friend

2625
02:46:36,149 --> 02:46:38,847
and now it is time for the order of the

2626
02:46:39,994 --> 02:46:56,790
heart of purpose right Sincerely, Ho. that we can find

2627
02:46:56,950 --> 02:46:59,995
an address somewhere, some drop box to send Sir Animas

2628
02:47:00,055 --> 02:47:03,761
of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia his Red Knight Order of

2629
02:47:03,801 --> 02:47:07,387
the Heart pin. He definitely deserves it. Along with him,

2630
02:47:07,447 --> 02:47:13,276
Order of the Heart recipients, Jeffrey Hirsch, Sir Sifu, Sifu

2631
02:47:13,416 --> 02:47:16,565
El Padrino, about to be a sir. and James Borders,

2632
02:47:16,726 --> 02:47:20,118
who was about to become Sir Boobalot of the Bootheel.

2633
02:47:20,480 --> 02:47:24,334
Congratulations to you, brand new Knights, Red Knights, Order of

2634
02:47:24,374 --> 02:47:41,472
the Hearts. Behold the... Miss The Star- And here's that

2635
02:47:41,532 --> 02:47:47,484
karma that I promised everybody. You've got karma. Yes, digital,

2636
02:47:47,925 --> 02:47:51,973
digital 2112 man. Woodland Hills indeed is the capital of

2637
02:47:52,013 --> 02:47:54,898
adult entertainment. That's why I recognize it. Yeah, that's where

2638
02:47:54,918 --> 02:47:57,184
our people are. people are from for sure. Hey, we

2639
02:47:57,204 --> 02:48:00,214
got a couple of nights, so I will bring the

2640
02:48:00,254 --> 02:48:03,324
blade out here. Do you have a blade? There you

2641
02:48:03,344 --> 02:48:09,529
go. There's his blade. Jeffrey hers and James borders gentlemen

2642
02:48:09,609 --> 02:48:14,334
step right up. Thanks to your red night donations you

2643
02:48:14,395 --> 02:48:17,584
get to join that of No Agenda Nights and Dames,

2644
02:48:17,624 --> 02:48:21,552
and I hereby pronounce the K-V as Sir Sifu El

2645
02:48:21,592 --> 02:48:35,180
Padrino and Sir Boobalot of the Boot Hill. What did

2646
02:48:35,200 --> 02:48:37,584
we have? I asked Pappy's ribs and a few shiners.

2647
02:48:37,645 --> 02:48:39,669
That's what I was looking for. Along with that, we

2648
02:48:39,709 --> 02:48:42,294
got vodka, vanilla, bong, it's a bourbon, sparkling cider, an

2649
02:48:42,374 --> 02:48:44,719
escort, ginger, and gerbils, breast milk, and pablum. And as

2650
02:48:44,839 --> 02:48:47,324
always, the mutton and the meat at the round table.

2651
02:48:47,484 --> 02:48:51,151
And gentlemen, please head over to noagendarings.com. That is where...

2652
02:48:51,813 --> 02:48:56,600
What are you... Are you... Are you now woodworking? What

2653
02:48:56,621 --> 02:48:59,972
are you doing, man? Just tell us. Well, the mic

2654
02:48:59,992 --> 02:49:02,207
was misplaced, and so what I do is when I

2655
02:49:02,489 --> 02:49:06,556
have the clip list. Yes. And I X out the

2656
02:49:06,637 --> 02:49:10,470
ones we played? Yes. And the mic was right on

2657
02:49:10,531 --> 02:49:14,528
top of where the pin was going. You exit out.

2658
02:49:14,549 --> 02:49:19,057
Oh, yes. Okay. Get a marker, okay? Get a Sharpie.

2659
02:49:19,218 --> 02:49:24,317
It's better. Go to noagendarings.com. That is where you will

2660
02:49:24,357 --> 02:49:26,562
see the beautiful No Agenda Night and Dame rings. They're

2661
02:49:26,622 --> 02:49:29,870
signet rings, so we always supply you with an ample

2662
02:49:30,010 --> 02:49:34,629
quantity of sealing wax, little sticks. You can use that

2663
02:49:34,689 --> 02:49:37,336
just like the old days to seal your important correspondence.

2664
02:49:37,397 --> 02:49:40,004
And as always, it comes with a certificate of authenticity.

2665
02:49:40,024 --> 02:49:43,032
And welcome once again to the No Agenda Roundtable. No

2666
02:49:43,895 --> 02:49:53,334
Agenda! place this month but first we have a report

2667
02:49:53,415 --> 02:49:56,685
this is the Albuquerque meetup. Sir Jeff Tohig hosted that

2668
02:49:56,805 --> 02:50:00,292
one. In the morning, this is Jeff from Albuquerque, the

2669
02:50:00,332 --> 02:50:04,460
land of the Mars rover, and I'm attending the Albuquerque

2670
02:50:04,500 --> 02:50:07,707
meetup, and here we go, handing it off. My name

2671
02:50:07,747 --> 02:50:09,651
is Craig, and I am also here at my first

2672
02:50:09,711 --> 02:50:12,837
NOAA Agenda meeting. Hi, this is Steve. I'm from northern

2673
02:50:12,937 --> 02:50:16,865
Colorado. This is my first No Agenda meetup and it's

2674
02:50:17,006 --> 02:50:20,232
fantastic. Hi, this is Dame Heather of the Lost Boys

2675
02:50:20,313 --> 02:50:24,261
from Santa Fe with quote Sir Jeff and Albuquerque at

2676
02:50:25,223 --> 02:50:32,358
our bi-annual meetup. You said bi. Alright, so cheers Adam

2677
02:50:32,738 --> 02:50:35,744
and go. Glad that everybody's healthy and happy and not

2678
02:50:35,805 --> 02:50:38,370
in the hospital anymore. Yes, we're all very happy about

2679
02:50:38,410 --> 02:50:40,374
that as well. Hey, there's a meetup taking place today.

2680
02:50:40,454 --> 02:50:43,360
The Northern Wake May meetup at 6 o'clock at Saints

2681
02:50:43,400 --> 02:50:47,769
and Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina. On Saturday, the DFW,

2682
02:50:47,869 --> 02:50:50,775
that's Dallas-Fort Worth Mid-Cities, meet up 11.30 in the morning

2683
02:50:50,835 --> 02:50:54,441
at Chef Point Cafe in Coleyville, Texas. It'll be a

2684
02:50:54,542 --> 02:50:58,329
relaxing lunch, Sir Nerdwork says. Also, the Fort Wayne Club

2685
02:50:58,349 --> 02:51:01,074
33 May Day Dancers meet up at 1 o'clock at

2686
02:51:01,114 --> 02:51:05,062
Olay's Pizza Pasta Pub in Fort Wayne, Indiana. And another

2687
02:51:05,122 --> 02:51:08,128
one on Saturday, the Resist We Much meet up in

2688
02:51:08,168 --> 02:51:12,957
Los Banos, California at Minet's Pizza. And that's at 3.33

2689
02:51:13,398 --> 02:51:16,984
p.m. That'll be a happy Armed Forces Day. How about

2690
02:51:17,024 --> 02:51:20,752
that? Sunday, our next show day, the IndyNA May the

2691
02:51:20,812 --> 02:51:23,838
Road Rise to Meet You meet up, 3 o'clock at

2692
02:51:23,898 --> 02:51:28,187
St. Joseph Brewery and Public House in Indianapolis, Indiana. That's

2693
02:51:28,267 --> 02:51:31,133
always Dame Maria and Sir Mark of the Greenwood. They

2694
02:51:31,173 --> 02:51:33,178
always put together a great meet up. There are many

2695
02:51:33,218 --> 02:51:34,721
more taking place. in the month of May on the

2696
02:51:34,761 --> 02:51:39,931
21st, Charlotte, North Carolina. 22nd, Molesun. Oh, this is our

2697
02:51:39,971 --> 02:51:42,797
dame there in Gers, in France. So make sure you

2698
02:51:42,817 --> 02:51:46,224
check out noagentameetups.com to find out where that is. The

2699
02:51:46,264 --> 02:51:50,653
23rd, Wilmington, Delaware, Los Angeles, California, Hickson, Tennessee, Franklin, Tennessee.

2700
02:51:50,673 --> 02:51:54,660
The 24th, Keyport, New Jersey, Vancouver, British Columbia. And on

2701
02:51:54,700 --> 02:51:58,007
the 25th, Squim, Washington, Dayamimi will be there with her

2702
02:51:58,067 --> 02:52:02,256
TooManyEggs.com books. And Anchorage, Alaska on May 30th. Many more

2703
02:52:02,316 --> 02:52:05,743
meetups to be found at NoAgendaMeetups.com. This is where you

2704
02:52:05,763 --> 02:52:08,328
get connection that will always bring protection. These people will

2705
02:52:08,348 --> 02:52:11,915
be your first responders in any emergency. In fact, they'll

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show mixes coming up along with John's tip of the

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day, but first the ISOs. It's three for three today.

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So let's see who gets that coveted final spot of

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the show. I will start. Dude, it's like genius. Genius,

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genius. Hmm. No, I didn't like that one myself. Here

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we go. That was the hardest I've ever laughed in

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my life. this one we did it oh she keep

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coming back to alex jones that's not alex jones we

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did it Oh, it's not? Oh, but at first, you're

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right. It sounded like him a little bit at first.

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I got three. Yes. Let's start with chilling. This is

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a chill. This is chilling. This is serious. That's definitely

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a contender. Wow, these... Oops, sorry. Which one is next?

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Now we go to better. Hey, you will never find

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02:53:46,765 --> 02:53:52,347
a better podcast than this. Okay, yeah, yeah. Alright, then

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the awards. Wow, these guys should win all the awards!

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02:53:58,863 --> 02:54:01,831
thinking this is a chill this is chilling this is

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serious I'm not sure now. Hey, you will never find

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a better podcast than this. Well, I think this is

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the best. You will never find a better podcast than

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this. I think that that is a good reminder for

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people. Okay, I'm not gonna argue about it. Okay, then

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you shouldn't argue. You can't argue because you gotta get

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ready for the tip of the day! Green advice for

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you and me, just the tip with JCB. And Sometimes,

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I don't. Okay, I got a dynamite tip from one

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of the producers. Ooh, producer tip. And I'd like to

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get the producers in. Yes. Okay. Power Toys from Microsoft.

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Our toys. Have you ever even heard of this? Uh,

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power toys. What's- the website. Well, the website, I'm going

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to tell you how people should find it the following

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way. You go to Google. You type in Power Toys.

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Power Toys from Microsoft. Otherwise, you have to type in

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a URL that's ridiculous. I'm going to tell you what

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it is. Learn.Microsoft.com slash EN. -us/windows/powertoys I think I have

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seen this. This is funny. Yes. So it's a bunch

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of utilities. Free. They're free. Free. Free. Mouse without borders.

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Woo. Yeah. Including, yeah, advanced. advanced cut and paste, color

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pickers, crop and lock. You know what this reminds me

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of? This reminds me of the Mac days when you

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could install extensions. And then your Mac would take an

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hour to start up because all those extensions were loading.

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Grab and move. Host file editor, that's a pretty good

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idea to have. Image resizer, keyboard managing, this easy way

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to remap a keyboard, this is the easiest way to

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do it is use this utility. uh it comes in

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handy light switch check this out people automatically switch between

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light dark themes based on time of day. If you're...

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Power toys run. There's a ton of stuff here. If

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you're still using Windows, you deserve this. If you're still

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using Windows, you deserve this. That's a pretty funny tip

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of the day. Especially for those of us who use

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Linux. I mean, I'm sorry. Yeah, well, you should use

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Windows in some way, shape, or form. I don't. I

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have no more Windows in my life. Really? None. None

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whatsoever. Well, good for you. Good for you. I overwrote

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every single drive that had Windows, and I put Omarchi

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on it. I'm sorry, GNU Linux. I don't want to

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get drunk. GNU Linux. GNU. Power tools. There you go.

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A tip of the day. Power toys. Power toys. Power

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toys. Power toys. Power toys. It's not the same as

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a great wine, but it could help you in a

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pinch. Our toys. Just the tip with JCB. and sometimes

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Adam. And again, you stepped on Brunetti's, you're always stepping

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on his credit. Has he not emailed you about this

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yet? No, he's missed that. I don't think he listens

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anymore. Um... So just an interesting non-tip. Somebody sent me

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a picture. I don't know if this is real. I'd

2782
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like somebody to verify it. There's a big bucket of

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wine that Costco is starting to sell, supposedly. A 10-liter

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02:57:47,374 --> 02:57:51,870
bucket of wine. Heh. of cabernet does it have a

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spout I don't know, I just saw the bucket, you

2786
02:57:55,770 --> 02:57:58,396
know? Or do you use a ladle? I have no

2787
02:57:58,477 --> 02:58:03,008
idea. The whole thing is ludicrous. Uh, we're gonna do

2788
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a Costco run, so I'll take a look for myself.

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That concludes our broadcast you got a full day's worth

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for sure. End of show mixes from Just Baker and

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Daryl Crillo. Thank you both very much for these end

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of show mixes. Love them a lot. Love them a

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lot. Lots of slop. Coming up next on the No

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Agenda Stream, if you are listening there, noagendastream.com or the

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Modern Podcast. Planet Rage, and they are also a value

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for value podcast, and I suggest you support them in

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a similar manner because those guys seem to be hurting,

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so help them out, Planet Rage, Darren and Larry. Darren

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and Laren. Darren and Larry. We promise we'll be back

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on Sunday. Until then, coming to you from the heart

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of the Texas Hill Country, glad to be back in

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Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And

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from Northern, I'm sorry, from Refinery Row, where we can

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handle the heavy crude, by the way, like most people.

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Uh... Not just for heating oil. I'm John C. Dvorak.

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We'll be back on Sunday. In the meantime, remember us

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listen again and again. That's why I'm... Thank you, John.

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Thank you, Adam. At the end of the day, aren't

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we glad we had him? Until I listen again tomorrow

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mofo. Dvorak.org slash N-A. find a better podcast. than this.