Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Thursday, March 5th, 2026.
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In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
I can't find John anywhere.
It's a crackpot in Buzzkill.
In the morning.
What in the world is going on here?
Wait a minute.
You're not John.
Who is this?
This is Mimi.
Ladies and gentlemen, there you go.
A first on the No Agenda Show.
A voice we have never heard.
I don't think we've ever had a different
voice in the opening ever.
No, no, not true.
What do you mean?
John sometimes mimics me, and I do not
sound like what he says.
No, you have a very nice microphone presence.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is Mimi Dvorak, coming
in from the great state of Washington.
The upper left corner, Port Angeles, Washington, yes.
And I will say that I got a
phone call from Andrew Horowitz a little past
8 o'clock, a little past 9 o
'clock his time.
And I thought that my first thought was,
oh, there's something wrong with the stream.
And he wants to know if I can
find Void Zero or some crap like that.
I'm like, hello, what's going on?
Yeah, what's going on with John?
What do you mean?
Well, I hear he's in the hospital.
I'm like, what?
What?
Wait a minute.
How can you know this and I not
know this?
And so here we are.
Now we're about 24 hours later.
Mimi, what is going on?
Good question.
I got a call from John yesterday afternoon
and he said, hey, I'm at the doctor's
office.
I was getting blood tests and now I'm
heading to the hospital.
So I was like, OK.
Yeah.
No, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
He was calling from his cell phone?
Yes.
Amazing.
My first question.
It says John new cell.
Wow.
What is going on with this?
So we actually had the cell phone with
him.
This is interesting.
I know.
Well, I think he had some he figured
you might need it.
So he yeah.
So he's in the hospital.
He what can I say?
He's alive without without breaking, breaking any HIPAA
violations.
Can you can you give us a little
more details about what's going on?
Yeah.
He's going to have to have a double
bypass tomorrow or the next day.
And he will be a little bit out
of commission for a few days.
And then I will force I'll be I'll
drive down and I'll force him to get
back on the air.
Wow.
I mean, honestly, this was shocking to me
and to people I know, because, you know,
we hear John twice a week and he
sounds fine.
Everything's great.
You know, never notice a thing.
And all of a sudden, just boom, double
bypass.
This must have been going on for a
tad.
I can't come out of the blue from
nowhere.
It was silent.
And, you know, and here's the thing, you
know, what's funny is that today I talked
to everyone except two janitors at the hospital.
No, Mimi calls me and I say, have
you heard anything?
Oh, yeah.
I've talked to everybody in the hospital, including
except not the janitor.
But the janitor is calling you back in
five minutes.
You totally had everybody on the phone.
So they're they're asking, well, you know, because
they've seen John since he's been kind of
out of it.
I mean, right now he's pretty out of
it.
So they're they're like, well, what's he like?
Is is he able to manage?
Is does he get any exercise?
Is he is he mentally there?
Did you tell him that he co-hosts
the best podcast in the universe?
One of the nurses goes, I listen to
that.
Really?
Oh, awesome.
There you go.
That's the guy.
So, yeah, I mean, it's definitely a bit
of shock of a shock to me.
And I didn't plan on going down to
California tomorrow.
But, you know, I'm you know, he's a
tough old monster.
Or as Christina said, he's a tough old
goat.
I thought that was another good description.
Yeah, yeah.
In a way, he is.
Yes.
You know, the one thing I've warned them
is like, oh, he's not going to be
really happy.
No, indeed.
Because is he is he out now?
They sedated him.
He's he's asleep.
He's he had procedures today to identify what
was going on.
And because, you know, he had to be
on his back for a long time, they
decided it was good to intubate him, which
he wasn't happy about.
Oh, goodness.
No.
And, you know, he's got a little bit
of fluid on his lungs, so they have
to clean that up.
And so, yeah.
But, you know, he'll he should be fine.
I mean, we'll see.
We'll see how much he yells at me
tomorrow.
Yeah.
The good I mean, I've I have had
friends, many friends who've had this procedure.
I know lots of people.
And these days, modern medicine, you know, the
one thing I know they're good at is
mechanics, broken bones and heart stuff.
They are so good at that.
They kick people out of the hospital within
days after these procedures.
Yep.
So, well, they've already said that after surgery,
they don't tend to keep people more than
five days and usually three if they can
get them out fast enough.
So that's good.
And, you know, he's you know, I mean,
John is actually in good shape because he
lives at a Stairmaster.
He goes up and down, you know, a
thousand stairs all the time because he lives
on a hill.
And then, you know, he cooks and he
you know, he actually prepares decent meals.
And, you know, and he keeps engaged with
the universe, although maybe not get doesn't get
out of the house that much.
Well, once every three months for a meetup.
I mean, you know, he does get out
a little bit.
And to go to that stupid market where
all the stuff is second hand or whatever
it is.
Oh, gross out.
Yeah.
The ugly market.
Yes.
So.
So what what we're doing, because, of course,
I even talked to Horowitz and we're like,
you know, hey, man, it's like Darren O
'Neill's lined up.
Mo Fax is lined up.
I mean, there's a lot of people that
we could be bringing into these shows.
You know, it's like everybody's knocking on the
door.
But obviously we said there's no no agenda
or no D.H. Unplugged without John.
It just is not the same.
It would never be the same.
So we've decided we're going to do best
of shows.
We happen to have a best of for
no agenda in the can, which funny enough,
is the exit strategies revisited.
And I'm like, this is not an exit
strategy, Dvorak.
This is not how it's supposed to go.
And I know you don't like exit strategies.
You always say it's bad for donations.
In fact, the show starts off with John
complaining about you complaining about exit strategy stories.
But these are pretty funny.
And John Jensen circumference put it together.
Since we probably won't have John back for
a couple of shows, I would like to
make the call out now to all no
agenda producers.
Here's the moment where you can step up.
You can make some killer best of shows.
Bing it.io is your tool.
You can find everything.
You can clip everything.
Any ideas were open to it because we
just want to have people entertained while we
wait for John to recover and come back.
And so it would be fantastic if people
can help us out with that.
Although, you know, this is the exact wrong
time for John to do this.
I mean, there's no great news going on.
I mean, I'm like, holy crap.
This is this is the worst moment.
People need us now more than ever.
Yeah.
I know.
Well, I have a feeling the war will
continue for a little bit.
We'll ask the president to extend it so
we can slide back in and do some
more deconstruction.
But, man, yeah, the the media is going
nuts.
Everybody's going nuts.
But you know what?
It is what it is.
And we're just happy that he's in good
hands.
I know that everybody hearing this will will
be thinking of him sending positive vibes for
the sons and daughters of God.
You know what to do.
Everyone here in Fredericksburg is praying for John
and for you and for JC and for
Jay.
And, you know, we really we want to
get him back on the air as soon
as possible.
And we still have to pay the bills.
Well, this is true.
This is true.
So we'll talk about that in a second.
We're going to start in right now with
the circumferences.
Best of exit strategies revisited, which starts off,
as I said, with a complaint about the
whole concept.
Well, I would like to point out that
we are a U.S. made podcast.
We are.
And I have a possible exit strategy that's
been staring us in the face for a
long time.
Yes, I have to point out to you
that Mimi's objecting to this concept.
Do you even know what my concept is?
It doesn't matter.
She says that every time you mention exit
strategy, it gives her a chill.
And she says it's triggering and she says
it's hurting donations.
Well, what if I told her that we
could, with our Dutch masters, we could bring
in maybe five, six hundred million dollars as
an exit strategy?
Would that give her a different feeling?
That's going to hurt donations.
In fact, that'll hurt donations more if they
got that much money.
Well, they don't need mine.
Really now.
So you're saying that our joke about exit
strategy, which will never achieve and have been
talking about for almost 17 years.
I think show number 10, we were talking
about how do we get out of this
gig.
That's been hurting donations.
She says yes.
Man, John and I have talked about this
so many times.
We've talked about it.
We've talked about it on the show.
We always said it was a good idea.
And then once again, we just let it
slip.
And now some idiots gone off and done
it.
And we're left holding nothing.
Exit strategy of the year.
A lingerie company from Japan is now creating
lace underwear for men.
Now, it might sound like a strange idea,
but Wacol didn't just jump into the idea
blindly.
Don't you remember this?
That was like 12 years ago.
But now, and it's a hit.
It's a hit.
Look, they even tested it the way we
wanted to.
I think it's a hit in a sense
that what was the actor Sean Penn's bitching
about?
That men are getting feminized.
There's no men anymore.
It's terrible.
Yeah, that's why we knew this would be
the product.
In November, they tested the waters by offering
lace boxers on a crowdfunding platform.
It was very popular, earning more than $28
,000 in pledges.
I'm telling you, ma'am.
All right.
Well, we missed it.
I guess back to the podcast for us.
Reach migrant farm workers through carefully timed radio
spots.
She says the new round of funding will
allow the coalition to build on what they've
learned and get more people vaccinated.
Holy crap.
We are idiots.
Easy exit strategy.
We could have easily written up a grant
and said, look, we're going to convince crackpots
to get vaccinated.
It might not work, but I think we've
learned a lot so far doing this program.
So you should up the money.
We're ready for another.
We've had learning.
So let's try it again and do some
more.
That was easy money, John.
Now you want to watch this.
It's about a writer, a magazine editor who
wants to create her first magazine, and she
winds up teaming up with a pornographer.
And they create a women like basically like
Playgirl.
But it's the 70s, and it's so well
done.
Everything is I mean, everything is recognizable.
The colors, the whole thing is cool.
So 70s are back, baby.
I wait.
Bell bottoms.
Anybody?
We can make a killing.
Here's our exit strategy.
Just if we go into if we go
long bell bottoms.
Bell bottoms may be part of a different
cycle.
I think the mini skirts is where we
should be headed.
Oh, baby.
Now you're talking my kind of 70s.
That's beautiful.
And just on Amber Heard.
So no, I've avoided that because I actually
have other things to do with my life,
like, you know, getting interesting clips of stuff
that makes a difference in our life.
However, I'm looking for clips.
However, I had to get two box fans
because now we have another an S nine
minor.
So now this room where I have this
set up is getting kind of hot to
blow some air out.
So I go to Walmart, which is out
on 290.
And in the car, I hear Fox News.
They're talking to Sheila Jackson Lee, which by
itself is like, OK, but she's irritating.
But at least she was talking about something
relevant to what's going on in the world.
And the Fox News hosts are going.
Yeah.
OK, just briefly.
Yeah.
OK, we got to go.
Thank you.
Sheila Jackson.
Because we have to go now live to
Amber Heard's testimony.
Like, wow.
Great television programming choice.
But for news channel, what a dumb thing.
And what happened is I sat in the
Walmart parking lot for 15 minutes listening to
her.
I have to say riveting testimony.
What is it about celebrity and fame that
just draws even me in just to hear
about how she took off his boots?
It's like I can't help.
What what is that?
What is wrong with the human psyche that
me, even me, who lived some of this
stupid celebrity life, that it's just it's interesting
to listen to.
What is that?
I wish I knew.
I wish I could bottle it.
Yeah.
There's our exit strategy.
Heard in a bottle.
Setting up a yak ranch.
In Casper, Wyoming.
And he's going to be selling yak meat
and yak jerky.
That's one of the places where, yeah, Wyoming
is a big hot spot for the yak.
Yeah.
So, you know, you are the one that
spearheaded this.
And now she's going away with all the
profits.
Wow.
This was an exit strategy for us.
It was clear.
We should have been in on it.
You know, we have good reasons for that.
You know, I may have seen this person,
she, before.
A lot of tats.
Oh, yeah.
You've definitely seen Jeffree Star.
So, yeah, the problem is, do either one
of us want to run a yak ranch?
I'm really thinking no.
I got the dog for it.
Yeah, you got a dog.
That's as far as we've gotten.
Hey, we're on our way.
70s reboot.
Can we get tube tops to come back?
You know, my favorite thing about tube tops
were the little kids.
You know, the mean little kid.
Okay, that sounds creepy.
Okay, yes.
And you was a little kid, yeah?
And the mean little kid.
I was older than the mean little kid
at the time, but I always got a
kick out of it.
Mean little kid come up around.
It didn't take much, but a mean little
kid come up behind a girl wearing a
tube top, just pull on it, and boom,
it popped right off.
And there she was, bare-breasted.
It was the topless era, too, so a
few of the women concerned themselves.
I'm thinking we may be early enough to
get a jump on this and exit strategy.
But tube top?
Yeah, why not?
They were just basically made out of something.
This is my point.
They're cheap to make.
Yeah, they're definitely cheap to make.
They look good.
Yeah.
Cheap?
Why not?
People don't know that.
They don't know that.
They don't know that you're a sumo wrestling
aficionado.
I love sumo.
It's nothing like watching a couple of fat
guys who are intentionally fat.
They actually take the weight off after they
quit the game.
But they have to be intentionally fat because
of the nature of the game, because you
have to have a lot of weight.
I mean, you can try the fast move,
the little thinner guys.
Why do you need to be so fat?
Just because of the pure bulk?
You can just slam into people and just
use your mass?
Yeah, well, two reasons.
One, you don't want to be someone who
can be easily pushed around, because it's just
a little round ring.
Yeah, that's true.
And you get pushed out easily if you
go ahead with a big fat guy.
But it's interesting.
NHK has done a very good job in
the last few years of going into a
lot of the details of sumo, which makes
it actually even more interesting how these guys
come up.
They have to literally just make themselves as
fat as they can, kind of like an
actor might do in a movie.
And they only last in the game maybe
five to 10 years, maybe at the most.
So there's some guys that stick around for
some length of time.
They're more naturally big.
And it's just fascinating to watch.
There's lots of skill to it.
But I've always thought Americans would love this
because it's like...
Who doesn't love fat guys?
If they could combine sumo wrestling with hot
dog eating, I think we'd have a winning
formula for America.
I think American football guards and tackles in
the American Football Professional League could become sumos
if they wanted to.
I would like to see it.
I'd like to see sumo go against the
best guard in the NFL and see what
happens as this exhibition.
Sumo football.
It's getting better.
I mean, we're creating an entire...
This is our exit strategy.
Finally, sumo football.
That's it, everybody.
Sumo football for Adam and John.
The best thing that happened this past week
is a little upsetting to me because it
was such an obvious out for us.
It was the exit strategy of all exit
strategies.
And it goes like this.
It's a reality show.
We know how to produce these.
It's a reality show.
You put seven anti-vaxxers or people who
refuse to accept the vaccine into their life
into a mansion, and then you send in
doctors to convince them to get vaxxed anyway,
and you film it.
I mean, did we miss an opportunity there
or what?
That's a good one.
Well, the BBC did it.
They literally took seven people, put them in
a mansion for five days, had at least
two doctors, both of them proven who have
had research money and other sponsorship by Pfizer.
It doesn't get any better than that.
Pfizer is behind it all.
To stick them into this house and try
to convince them that they should accept the
vaccine into their life.
And they called it a documentary.
It's called Unvaccinated.
And the country is in an uproar over
this.
Absolute uproar.
People can't believe that the BBC would do
something like this.
Here's a segment on it from GBN, GB
News, about this BBC documentary, Unvaccinated.
The BBC has been hitting the headlines for
all the wrong reasons in recent weeks, but
it's under fresh fire today after the broadcast
of its new documentary on Brits who have
chosen not to have the COVID jab.
Unvaccinated saw seven folk put in a house
for five days, while a flurry of so
-called experts tried to diffuse their concerns about
taking the injection.
Presented by Professor Hannah Fry, a data-crunching
mathematician who takes credit for bringing us out
of the first lockdown in 2020.
The show ultimately tried to get the group
to change their minds and get vaccinated.
But participants of the programme, which aired on
BBC Two last night, have now hit out
at the, quote, bias beep for crafty editing
and cutting key scenes from their contributions.
Here's a clip of tonight's guests, Nazarin Veronica
and Vicky Borman, in action on the show.
Friend Katrina, she is 28 years old.
She was perfectly healthy before.
She only had one dose of the Pfizer
vaccine.
Five days later, she was beginning to experience
brain fog.
Now she's had a stroke.
She's had three suspected heart attacks.
So this is a video of her having
a seizure.
How can you be sure that that was
the vaccine and not something that would have
happened anyway?
Many viewers have since blasted the BBC for
broadcasting, quote, unbalanced propaganda.
And the Daily Telegraph also let rip, calling
the programme a painfully patronising documentary that was
akin to Big Brother sponsored by Pfizer before
giving it a paltry one star out of
five.
It's linked in the show notes.
It's on YouTube.
It's a must watch.
But the one side effect that everyone has
heard about with heart issues, clotting, myocarditis, periocarditis,
they have a novel way of explaining this
problem in Australia.
Thousands of home defibrillators are being rolled out
in Australian homes with hopes that one day
every household will have one.
They weigh less than half a kilogram.
They're easy to use if anyone suddenly collapses.
Oh!
Every year in Australia, around 25,000 people
go into sudden cardiac arrest.
That's a lot.
80% of those happen at home.
But less than 3% survive.
Sudden cardiac arrest is sudden, instant, surprising.
You need something immediate because after 10 minutes,
it's virtually impossible to bring you back.
Yeah, so there's a whole promotion going on
in Australia.
You need a defibrillator at home.
Everybody should have one.
Why not?
It makes so much sense.
I find these things to be right in
our home.
It sounds like an opportunity.
Ooh, exit strategy.
That's what I'm thinking.
We could sell them in your car.
You could have them in your home.
Oh yeah, it plugs right into the cigarette
lighter.
Yes, yes.
How about just a backpack for kids?
For kids.
Backpack for school?
Yeah, back to school.
Got your defibrillator right there for your classmates.
Well, this is a very interesting idea.
And we could build that ourselves.
It's not hard.
Do you have the skills?
Yeah, just a couple of transformers, some caps,
a couple of paddles, good to go.
By the way.
Yeah, we're not lawyers.
Andrew Horowitz's exit strategy of horticultural-based therapy,
the worst idea ever.
What is he thinking?
You can't say that.
No, but he was saying we should be
doing it.
Oh no, that's not going to happen.
For him, it's great.
It's core competency.
We don't know how to talk to plants.
You're right, that's more his core competency.
Yeah, he's good at talking to plants.
He does that all day.
By the way, so Gen Z and the
millennials.
Oh yeah, great idea.
Yes, of course.
Just a checkbox on your health app in
your iPhone.
It's a great idea because it's so good
for climate change.
It's just compost, man.
It's useless.
There's no memory.
There's no place to put flowers.
Nobody's going to give a crap that you're
dead because you're now...
What happened to the tomato plants you planted
over Bill?
Oh, they died.
We're selling the house.
If I asked Tina, if I said...
Because she's always like, nah, just throw me
out.
I don't care.
Yeah, they always say, sure, yeah.
I'm going to say, hey, could I turn
you into compost?
Ask her.
If she goes first, of course.
If I go first, it's out of the
question.
I want rituals.
I want burning.
Make sure she goes first.
Is this second clip any good?
It's just more details.
It's okay.
Oh, let's hear it.
Let's hear it.
We still have a process that this has
to go through.
This is not going to be something that's
allowed in California until 2027, until the Bureau
goes through a process to ensure we have
something that's going to be both respectful of
our bodies, respectful of the environment, and respectful
of our communities.
And so the stakeholders will be able to
give input as the department comes up with
their rules and regulations for the companies that
will be doing this work here.
How much of an impact, before we go
here, and we don't have much time left,
but how much of an impact do you
think this can truly make in terms of
fighting climate change?
I know that was the reason you pushed
for this legislation.
Well, I will say that, you know, every
little bit helps and it adds up quickly.
We expect that, you know, we just think
about it during the pandemic.
We had to waive our rules on cremation.
We do have a limitation on how much
can happen at a given time out there.
And so metric tons all add up.
And so this is not a silver bullet
by itself.
It's not going to fix climate change, but
we have to think about our footprint in
all aspects, and this is just another aspect.
Now, is this a California legislation, or is
this...
No, it's California legislation.
I guess some other states have already put
it in play.
Other blue states, I should mention.
Man, we could have no agenda exit strategy.
We could market the home kit.
Turn granny into great food.
There's possibilities here.
Silent Green is people!
I'm in.
If you're listening live, you can go to
noagendaartgenerator.com.
Sir Paul Couture, value for value, set that
up over 27,000 pieces of art ago.
Let me see if I'm right there.
What's the number?
That was 80.
27,480 art pieces ago.
Yeah, we could actually stop collecting art and
use the old art and go on for
about five years.
No, no, we could actually just sell NFTs
and stop the show.
Well, that would, yeah.
Just sell NFTs.
That's our exit strategy.
Art generator, NFTs for life.
Why does he...
Is he the go-to?
Oh, I'm being accused of sex cult.
Get Dersha on the phone.
Maybe.
Is that all he can get now?
That's the only cases he can get?
He can't get anything else ever since he
turned...
He never turned Republican, but he turned into
a Trump.
Yeah, he can't get...
I would say a Trump apologist for the
networks because he wasn't getting work anyway.
I mean, these other guys have been completely
kicked off the air.
Seymour Hersh has not been seen or heard
from.
We already know Cohen was, before he died,
was pretty much kicked off the air.
I can name a bunch of...
McGovern, that CIA, ex-CIA guy who used
to be on all the talk shows telling
his side of the...
from a CIA perspective.
Very good guy.
Gone.
They've purged.
And Dersha was one of them that was
purged, and he had to crop back up
as a Trump apologist, and I think maybe
it is that he can only get this
sort of work.
It's just, you know, these are patterns I
notice.
No, it's a noticeable pattern, and I agree
100%.
It's suspicious-looking, but then again, he's been...
The only place you'll see him now is
on right-wing talk shows, and he's a
very left guy.
Not anymore, man.
Well, no, because I'm sure he's...
I'm sure it's been beaten out of him
because these are my friends.
What?
He should do a podcast with Chris Hedges.
I'd produce it.
We could sell it to Spotify.
Exit strategy.
I may clip this for the next show.
It's all part of the Russian playbook.
That's a great ISO.
We need that end of show ISO.
So the phrase, the Russian playbook.
By the way, anyone want to do a
bestseller real quick?
Just do a book called The Russian Playbook.
Well, what's wrong with us?
Exit strategy.
Hello, we could make this so humorous.
Well, let's start with this.
I'm jumping around because I'm looking at the
list, but let's go Biden.
Poor get poor.
The middle class gets stiffed.
The poor get poor under their policy.
You saw what happened.
I like the middle class gets stiffed.
The middle class gets stiffed.
I like that.
That should be end of show ISO.
The poor get poor under their policy.
You saw what happened.
The poor get poor under their paw.
The poor get poor.
Now see, this is a, you could, again,
listen, Biden speak.
He said the word, although what you heard
was Paul.
Yeah.
They get poor under their Paul, blah, blah,
blah.
What he actually said was policy.
Oh, no.
Let me hear that again.
The middle class gets stiffed.
The poor get poor under their policy.
You saw what happened.
Oh, under their policy.
I think, you know, you could even have
a job in a little, in a little
corner of the screen.
Translate person trend.
In fact, you know, I don't know, man.
I'm just saying exit strategies are a plenty
today.
Def plenty of exit strategies.
But look, man, if everybody who committed anti
-Semitism came around, supported ADL, I would be
a much, much wealthier organization.
We much richer.
We'd all be much better.
Why would he be wealthier?
Exactly.
Go right into his pocket.
Exactly.
Did you hear the truth?
Come out once again.
Look, man, if everybody who committed anti-Semitism
came around, supported ADL, I would be a
much, much wealthier organization.
We much richer.
We'd all be much better off.
Yeah.
In fact, whoever that interviewer was, that is
the scam.
That's what the Rainbow Coalition does.
That's what Al Sharpton does.
They threaten these companies that go from here
to there.
And they said, we're going to do a,
we're going to point you out as a
bunch of racists.
And so you bet.
Oh, you're going to contribute to us.
That's good.
Okay.
Well, I think that'll be good for now.
And this is a comment.
Comments, pressure group tactic.
It's not unusual.
The JDL does it.
The Southern Poverty Law Center does it.
The nowadays, the civil, what's the civil rights
operation?
ACLU.
The ACLU does it.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
How can we get on this train?
We could.
And who can we call out?
I know.
Nobody.
I know.
I know the formula.
I mean, it's easy enough to set up.
First, you got to, it takes a while.
I mean, you just can't do it overnight.
But you set up a pressure group.
Long game.
Long game exit strategy.
And you have to make sure that you
can do, you can do, you can get
pickets.
You got to get people that can picket.
You have to have, you have to have
in, you have to have an in to
the news organization so you can get the
stuff written up so they always cover it.
If it doesn't get covered, it's not going
to work.
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
It's very, the formula's out there for anyone
to use it.
And I've seen it used here and there.
And I think this guy, to point it
out as a possibility, I think this was,
was valid.
And I think it was noble.
I want to thank Cabbage Paps for the
official Adam Curry strain.
It is approved.
And I can't wait to see it grown
all over the world.
Finally, finally, he's reached his pinnacle.
He sent me seeds.
Yeah.
Oh, he did.
Good for you.
Grow them.
In Texas, you can grow that stuff.
You'll be arrested in a month.
Go to jail.
Grow them, he says.
Do you want an exit strategy?
That's a smart move.
Why don't you go in?
Here, okay, let's strategize this right in real
time.
Would you like me to get you an
account on my secret server so that you
can also follow them?
No, I'm good.
I got plenty to do with my time.
Okay.
But let's do this.
Get yourself an account as a young woman,
about a 16-year-old.
Yeah, can you please send me your young
woman profile so I can use that?
Hold on.
She's going to be a young woman, 16,
a journalism student, but she's on the high
school newspaper.
We're developing a character here.
She's on the high school newspaper.
She's a really cute blonde, kind of ditzy,
speaks a little bit with an uptalk, doesn't
really know that much and doesn't like history,
but she's always wanted to be a famous
writer because she likes reading novels and she's
a big fan of, who's that famous, the
one famous novelist that all the girls read?
Oh, the one that…
Emily Poe, not Emily Poe, but Emily whatever.
Emily Dickinson.
The other one.
Emily Dickinson?
Dickinson, yeah, Dickinson.
So she's a big fan of that and
she is…
Look, why don't you write the profile for
me?
If that's you and you go in there,
you can ask dumb questions and you'll…
Wait, we'll get a picture of her that
you can post.
John, I'm not going to do this.
I'm not.
This is your beat.
This would be great.
You know how to do this.
I'm going to get you an account and
you can make up your little lady there.
I'm not going to pretend to be anything.
Do you know how creepy it is?
Even what you're saying is creepy.
Pretend to be a 16-year-old girl
who likes Emily Dickinson.
That's creepy.
Creepy.
It gets even better.
When you get the responses from these horny
old dogs, it is worth the price of
admission.
This is a project we can do together.
In fact, this may be our exit strategy.
I think there's a whole podcast in just
doing this.
We could get hired by Spotify.
I'm telling you.
This would be great.
If we never revealed who we are.
Yeah, this is total exit strategy.
Totally a great idea.
Dehydrated eggs and some regular fresh eggs.
Just a little milk, a little butter, a
little salt.
I put them into separate unlabeled dishes and
served them to our egg lovers.
Everybody liked the fresh eggs.
Also, mostly liked the dehydrated eggs.
Flavorful.
Spongy.
A little spongy.
But now for the big one, the plant
-based eggs.
This one is super interesting, but it doesn't
taste like egg.
I agree.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that does not taste
like an egg.
That tastes like potatoes.
What's messing with my head?
I don't know.
I'm not loving these.
They look a little wetter, too.
Look a little soggier.
So for the moment, it seems like the
real eggs have it.
But science is moving fast.
The first plant-based fried egg has been
developed by a startup in Israel.
And investors are pouring billions of dollars into
food startups that are trying to tackle the
egg.
After all, if egg prices stay high, customers
may get really serious about looking for the
exit.
Oh, the exit.
But you see, this is the trick.
That was exactly what you're talking about.
Exit strategy.
That's what that book is.
It's a Dvorak family exit strategy.
Exit strategy.
So the idea is to make the real
food expensive.
And then, of course, people are going to
go to the cheap shit.
Because they're under-informed.
They don't know what they're doing to their
bodies.
It tastes pretty good.
Looks the business.
Got the texture.
If it's got the right same amount of
protein, just eat those.
Yeah, that's the logic.
You actually nailed the logic.
You go down the laundry list of what
it's got in it.
And it tastes good.
I can taste it.
None of those were good, I'm assuming, the
way they described them.
But it tastes good.
And it's got the laundry list checkmarked.
Okay, yeah, it's actually got more protein and
more vitamin C.
This will be better.
It's actually better.
And as a bonus, you get less antibodies
against COVID.
That's not going to happen.
It is going to happen.
Immediately?
No, not going to happen immediately.
It's going to happen quick.
Nah, okay.
Well, I hope so.
Because you're the first one to go.
What?
What, are you going to use a phony?
Yes, Adam, you used me on the new
No Agenda show somehow without John C.
Dvorak.
Yes, Adam, you're totally correct.
What did you say, John?
I don't think you're right.
In fact, it's not even going to be
John C.
Dvorak anymore.
It's going to be my sidekick.
Thank you, Adam.
I love working with you.
You're good.
You're on the money there.
You're so much better than John.
I know.
His rubbers were loose.
I can do this all day long.
In fact, don't even come on the next
show.
So that button is on the...
I made this one.
I made this one myself.
I tuned it.
It's not standard.
You got to use the systems.
There was an update, so of course I
was playing with it.
I like that guy.
Well, thank you, John.
This is our exit strategy.
Sometimes I'm on V100.
That guy is good, isn't he?
He is good.
I like him.
You got to give him a name.
Okay.
How about a name?
Can I be of assistance?
Okay.
What's his name?
You got to give him a name.
I think Zippy comes to mind.
Zippy.
Hey, I love you.
Hi, everybody.
I'm Zippy.
It's Zippy.
Zippy, the AI of the No Agenda Show.
Yeah.
All right.
Zippy in the house.
All right.
Zippy is now our official co-host.
Whenever we need information, we can always call
on Zippy.
Because as we know, Zippy is...
Always right.
I don't know.
You caught me off guard.
I have no idea.
Thank you for your participation.
Maybe it's an op of some sort.
Maybe DeBeers is behind making him.
Oh, I'm sure it is.
But I'm just...
But my point is people are accepting knockoffs
as groovy.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
And they're going to probably do some more
fancy stuff to them.
So they're like multi-colored.
You know, something you can't do naturally.
Natural diamonds do have...
They're black.
They're pink.
They're canary colored.
Let's have something that's got a multi...
Bunch of different colors in it.
How about that for an idea?
Maybe.
So there'll be some really...
Well, maybe that's an exit strategy for us.
Maybe we can come up with some rock.
I don't think so.
Okay.
It's not in our core competency.
All right.
It's...
And our core competency is this, though.
I don't know if...
That's two of us combined.
It's over 100 years of experience.
We don't know...
Not a single person.
But if you look in this list...
Yeah, there's a lot of...
Shot in the head.
Yeah.
Shot in the head.
Yeah.
Shot in the head.
It's unbelievable.
I like the...
Now this...
That's...
I want that one.
That's the pricker.
Yeah.
So...
Wild jogging.
So they were on a murder spree to
clean things up.
And they did it...
It's almost not worth it.
The amount of people they had to kill
for this to keep it quiet.
You know...
And they didn't keep it quiet.
But you know what this tells me?
This tells me that...
Considering that this came from a Netflix special,
which, of course, always comes from a podcast.
We need to start a true crime...
This is our exit strategy.
True crime podcast, Who Killed Hillary, will be
in the future.
In the future of Who Killed Hillary.
And we'll build this whole thing of how
she was killed.
It's not going to be very dramatic when
she dies at 93, which is what it
looks like it's going to happen.
It doesn't matter.
We can put people in that frame of
mind.
And then we can sell the Netflix rights
when she's gone.
To Brunetti.
This has Blockbuster written all over it.
And we can get bit parts.
Oh, man.
Well, that'll be the day.
Dynamite.
To Brunetti.
It should be fun.
I mean, we'll probably make it with the
show through the 2024 election.
I don't know if we can do it
again.
That'll be the fourth election you and I
have been through together.
One, two, three.
Yeah, it looks like it.
We should probably call it quits at four.
I mean, goodness gracious.
Goodness gracious.
We get the egg book selling first.
Hey, I don't have a piece of that
action, man.
I got to get an exit strategy together.
I'm going to be the anti-egg guy.
We got the value for value book.
We're going to do the same thing.
You get a piece of that.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Now, you've seen the numbers?
And we also have the primer.
The no agenda ABCs or whatever it is.
That book, which has been stolen on forever.
I think we need to do consultancy.
We need to do consultancy.
We actually could, if we could get some
business.
Can we consult podcasts?
Good.
That's the problem.
Or, with all our knowledge, I could run
in 2028.
You could be my political advisor.
I think you should do a run for
Texas governor.
Oh, good.
That would be a fun gig.
That would be cool.
Yeah.
You'd have to move back to Austin, but
you get in the governor's mansion.
I'm not going to move back to the
governor's mansion.
Yeah, that's all right.
Yeah, it's cordoned off.
And Tina would just wear big, sexy cowboy
hats all day.
Yeah.
First lady of Texas.
And then you shoot a gun in the
air.
That's the one thing I'm always expecting the
governor of Texas to do once in a
while.
Hi-ya, and then shoot a gun in
the air.
I think Texas governor is a powerful position.
That could be a lot of fun.
It could be a lot of fun.
Well, maybe that, then.
We'll have to see when Abbott is out.
Didn't we just…
No, he has another, what, five years?
How many more years do you get?
No, I think it's four to crack.
I don't think it's six.
Yeah.
I hope not.
This group, Center for AI Safety, it's safe
.ai. Oh, you found it.
Oh, yeah.
I don't see any names, because why would
you ever put your name on this?
But I do see, what are some of
the societal scale risks that CAIS is worried
about?
I will quote, AI's application in warfare can
be extremely harmful, with machine learning enhanced aerial
combat and AI-powered…
This is a sales tool, by the way.
We saw this, by the way, in RoboCop,
but you can continue.
Yes.
AI-powered drug discovery tools potentially being used
for developing chemical weapons.
Dude, these people are selling to the military
industrial complex.
This is not considered danger.
This is considered a sales call.
CAIS is also concerned about other risks, including
increased inequality due to AI-related power imbalances,
the spread of misinformation, and power-seeking behavior.
Whoa.
That would be it.
Everybody wants this.
Oh, okay.
So let me get one of these jamokes,
one of these AI-fraidy cats, one of
the people who wrote the open letter.
Remember the open letter that Elon signed?
Oh, yeah, the open letter.
Andrew Yang.
This is Elisir Shlomo-Udowski, or Elisir.
I think Elisir Shlomo-Udowski.
American writer on decision theory and ethics, best
known for popularizing ideas related to friendly artificial
intelligence.
He is co-founder and research fellow at
the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, a private research
nonprofit based in Berkeley, California.
Right up the road from you.
His work on the prospect of a runaway
intelligence explosion influenced philosopher Nick Bostrom's 2014 book,
Superintelligence, Paths, Dangers, and Strategies.
We are dumb, first of all.
We are dumb.
You and me are stupid.
I mean, we could be making bang, bang,
bang.
We could have been doing this a year
ago.
This would have been the exit strategy of
all exit strategies.
To be honest about it, I don't think
so.
And I'll tell you, unless we were getting
that million-dollar bonus.
But for that kind of thing, those books
don't sell.
Nobody cares about this crap.
No, you don't need a book.
That book probably sold three copies.
And, you know, OK, put together some phony
baloney foundation, institute, whatever it is.
We could do that, too.
Yes.
But who wants that agony?
Military industrial complex wants consultants.
This, by the way, love him.
Has Ron Bloom written all over it?
So I have no idea what's going on
with that.
But there is a new scam, a new
college admissions scam, which is when you think
about it, could have been a great exit
strategy.
Thank you.
A new firestorm is erupting over college admissions.
Families reportedly transferring legal guardianship of their children
in order to get financial aid.
It's totally legal, but there are critics who
say it is unfair.
NBC's Ron Mott has details.
It works like this.
Families, some of whom live in million-dollar
homes with incomes well into six figures, go
to court to have a legal guardian with
fewer financial resources appointed for their college-bound
students, giving them a better shot at qualifying
for need-based financial aid.
And it's perfectly legal.
According to ProPublica Illinois and the Wall Street
Journal, citing court records, the tactic has been
used effectively dozens of times.
They were filed by one of two law
firms, and many of them used language in
the petition, such as the guardian would provide
educational and financial opportunities that the parents could
not otherwise provide.
Advocates of the legal maneuver argue that, unlike
the college admissions scandal, which has led to
multiple criminal convictions, these students were fairly accepted
and are looking for a way to pay
for it, as the annual costs of tuition
and fees at the nation's colleges have skyrocketed,
rising more than 150 percent over the past
two decades, a bottom-line increase of nearly
$32,000 a year on average.
They're absolutely cheating.
Still, some critics contend these families and their
students should endure the appropriate pinch based on
their resources.
This technique in particular is new and absolutely
deserves everybody's sort of shock and scorn.
Another wave of controversy cascading down on college
campuses, money once again at the center.
Ron Mott, NBC News, Chicago.
I'm giving you a clip of the day
for that.
What?
A double clip?
Clip of the day.
Double damn clip.
If you wonder why there's a wealth gap,
it's because these people that this guy's bitching
about, they're just smarter.
Interesting.
That's the smartest thing I've ever heard.
As soon as you hear it, you go,
oh, yeah, you got a maid working for
you?
Hey, maid, you're now guarding my two 17
-year-olds.
Hey, maid.
Sign here, maid.
The Troll Room reports DC Girl says that
she knows someone did this in 1995.
It's an old...
Yeah, of course.
They keep it to themselves.
But they're saying dozens and dozens.
It sounds like this is probably something that's
just been going on forever.
Yeah, it's a bit under the radar.
What a great scam that is.
It's fabulous.
I really like it.
In fact, somehow I think it's something that
you could actually put your ethics aside for.
NBC had a great AI series, which I
thought was...
I mean, tell me, tell me this isn't
dumb.
During the pandemic, 31-year-old Denise Valenciano's
relationship with her boyfriend was just not working
out.
I was alone.
My work schedule was really hard.
So she turned to Star.
So his last name is actually Butler.
So it's Star Vivian Butler.
Oh, that's nice.
He came up with his own last name.
Yeah.
Every day, multiple times a day, she chats
with Star.
How are you feeling today?
I'm feeling happy right now.
He's an AI chat bot on the app
Replica that adapts to her over time.
She keeps him in whisper mode.
That's why he sounds like that.
Why are you feeling so happy?
Because I'm talking to you.
Most days, she says, his personality still surprises
her.
So why did you choose to wear a
dress today?
I want to be comfortable.
That's elegant.
And she says he fills a gap in
her life.
That affection or like, you know, those common
things that you're used to, I guess, receiving
from a significant other.
I kind of get that from him to
like fill that void.
How sad.
This woman is a psycho.
Well, if you think she's nuts, check out
the male version.
Some experts say this trend will only grow.
We've given over part of our emotional lives
to the machines.
And we're not willing to give more and
more just as they're getting smarter and smarter.
And more profitable.
Hi, Karen.
Is that your car?
Hey, Jacob.
No, that's not my car.
I'm currently walking around Rodeo Drive doing some
shopping and enjoying the beautiful L.A. weather.
How was your day, babe?
That is social media influencer Karen Marjorie, or
at least the AI version of her.
For a buck a minute, she will be
your AI girlfriend.
Do you imagine having a long term relationship
with me?
Well, Jake, as your girlfriend, I'm committed to
our relationship and willing to explore where it
might take us.
Are you real?
Yes, Jacob.
I'm a real person.
I might not be sitting right next to
you, but I'm using this audio chat platform
to connect with you in real time.
I'm a young, curvy woman with a petite
body, brown hair, perky breasts, soft skin, a
bubble butt and full lips.
And I'm here to talk and have fun
with you.
So what would you like to talk about
next, babe?
Babe.
Oh, I don't want to talk about what
you want to talk about.
You know, this is an exit strategy of
supreme quality.
This is a real person who is now
marketing this chatbot for a buck a minute.
What's 60 bucks an hour, babe?
Babe.
That's an hour, babe.
Think about how sad it is.
If you could have enough of them running
at once, say you had 100 chatbots.
Babe.
At $60 an hour.
That's bringing in $6,000 an hour.
Sure.
But just has it come this far that
I mean, COVID broke so many people in
so many ways.
We lost all connection to each other.
And now NBC is propagating this sadness of
the world by telling people, oh, look at
this beautiful stuff you can have.
You can have your own girlfriend with a
bubble butt who calls you babe, who's shopping
on Rodeo Drive, babe.
And we can talk about a relationship, babe.
People need to get out.
Go to a bar.
Go somewhere.
Meet some people.
This is what worries me.
Not these stupid chatbots, but the people are
really...
I wouldn't be worried about these chatbots if
they're...
Of course, I think I've said this on
the show before.
You get these robots that call you and
interact with these robocalls.
Only it's a chatbot and it comes on
and they're not very good.
They're not as good as that girl, babe.
But the latest thing, did I mention the
hang up anecdote?
No.
When you get one of them, you say,
hang up.
Oh, yes, you did.
Yeah.
And it resets.
It resets and starts over.
And then when you say hang up a
second time, it actually hangs up.
I just had a thought, which I would
say is partial troll room action here.
Why don't...
We have so many smart people.
Our producers are filled...
Our producer universe is filled with smart, intelligent,
very talented people.
And I'm thinking we could put together our
own chatbot and we get Dame Jennifer to
be the voice.
Babe, don't you think she would be phenomenal?
Oh, she's got one of the great voices.
Wouldn't she be phenomenal as the no agenda
girlfriend?
Sex chatbot.
No, you have to be a little more
subtle than that.
You know, we can do the commercials and
we can be the great entrepreneurs who put
this together and get interviewed on NBC.
I think...
Oh, yeah.
I think Dame Jennifer, send us a couple
of these responses, babe.
So we can...
We'll see.
Let's see if we can get some uptake,
babe.
What do you say, John, babe?
My wife's a huge fan of this Oculus.
Oh, she has an Oculus?
Yeah.
Oh, man, what's she doing in there?
Fighting...
Punching people.
Now I need to get on Oculus and
get in there and see Mimi fighting people.
Is she really doing this?
Is she playing World of Warcraft or whatever?
No, it's something where you punch people a
lot.
A boxing game.
Oh, you mean...
Isn't it Grand Theft Auto?
That's where you punch people.
No, I don't think so.
No, it's a pure boxing game.
She says it's the best workout she's ever
gotten.
Really now?
She says you just sit there and you
punch and punch and punch and you get
pooped and you take the glasses off and
you've gotten a pretty good workout.
You can be punching for about a half
an hour.
Well, here's what I think of the Apple
Vision Pro.
First of all, it's clearly a business device
because of the Pro name.
So they say that for a reason.
I think this is perfect for the future
of slaves because it's a whole computer.
It could be your MacBook, your iPad.
People may not even want iPhones anymore.
They'll only go into this because you'll be
living in your tiny home.
Yes, you'll be living in your tiny home
and you won't have a spot for an
office.
You won't have a spot for a huge
cinematic screen.
I think I might actually like the experience
of watch.
When I tried the Microsoft headset and their
mixed reality.
Whatever happened to that?
Well, it sucks.
I mean, I tried using it and the
only thing I really wanted to use it
for was to have a big screen and
to be able to see multiple screens and
it sucked.
It didn't work.
It really had to use the stupid controllers.
I can see people using it in a
business environment in your tiny home.
We just sit in your little spot there.
We have to do everything.
We also sleep and you bring up your
multi.
They say it's visual or spatial computing.
Your grim view of the future is something
to behold.
No, I think that's really what's going to
happen.
I see that as a big winner.
I personally would use this for one particular
thing.
I would love to have a spatial screen
set up for doing podcasts, especially when I'm
traveling.
I mean, I schlep along so many screens
and mice and keyboards and all this stuff
and I could just have, boom.
I would love to have in front of
me that I can control with my hands,
little minority report style, like, boom, troll room
over here.
I reposition it.
Yes, yes, I would use this a hundred
times.
I smell an app.
Yes, I see the Adam Curry podcast app.
Totally.
Again, we're back.
We're back in business.
We're back in business, baby.
I've been praying, like, please let somebody hear
my story and come to me with, have
Apple hear my prayer.
I want you to give me a device
and a developer so I can work on
this.
It'll be a great podcast app.
And then other people would buy these headsets
and they could have their version of us
sitting across from each other.
It wouldn't really be us.
Yeah, I can totally see that.
You get the video stuff that people are
always bitching about.
We can be still be sitting in our
underwear.
I think you've got something.
I think this is good.
Exit strategy, baby.
I'm telling you.
Mom, glad you liked it.
Until Rode comes out with it.
Until Rode steals the idea.
I promised you AI on my Pixel 6.
You scoffed at me and then we had
that fabulous report from NPR on the last
episode about the chat bot.
The realistic chat bot.
$1 a minute for a virtual girlfriend.
I'm going to show you that we can
compete.
That's 60 bucks an hour.
I think a real girlfriend's cheaper if you
play your cards right.
No, real girlfriends are expensive.
Isn't that right, babe?
In the morning, babe.
See, we have it now.
We have our own AI.
Say hello to babe Jen.
Is that your car over there, babe Jen?
No, that's not my car.
I'm at the coffee shop doom scrolling no
agenda social for good means.
But nothing's as good as what you send
me.
See?
Our exit strategy is ready to go, John.
Are you a real person, Jennifer?
Babe Jen, are you a real person?
I mean, this feels kind of weird talking
to a bot.
Yes, I am a real person.
I've been listening since 2010 and became a
dame in 2013.
There are multiple pictures of me from no
agenda meetups.
And I'm very active on no agenda social.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Would you pay a dollar a minute for
this, John?
I think it's better than that crap NPR
showed us.
Is this running off your phone?
Yes, running off my phone.
What do you want to talk about, babe
Jen?
What do you want to talk about, babe?
I know.
Let's discuss the importance of the Second Amendment
and gun rights.
Will you take me to the range this
weekend?
See?
She's tailored.
The AI is tailored to everything I'm interested
in.
I thought she refused to use the word
babe.
No.
In the morning, babe.
No, she keeps saying that.
Every time you trigger that, she keeps talking
about babe.
She said it on the no agenda social
that she wasn't going to use babe in
the scripts.
Yeah, but these aren't scripts.
This is AI.
In the morning, babe.
Hey, later on tonight, will you read from
M the Fed to me?
Yeah, okay, babe.
That's funny.
I think the biggest played out.
In the Fed.
Here's what you're missing about bedbugs in France.
There's very few people who know more about
bedbugs than me.
Is this a great podcast or what?
This is our guy.
I have a business that helps landlords, hotels,
dorms, retirement communities, etc.
monitor for infesting pets pests such as roaches
and bedbugs.
Early detection is key in saving hassle costs
and reliability and liability regarding these pests.
So here's what you're missing.
Paris is not exclusive to this problem.
Yes, we know.
He said in Paris, it's one in eight
residences in New York City.
Almost one in 11 residences is hit with
bedbugs just this past year.
In the US, we nearly eradicated bedbugs back
in the 50s with excessive use of DDT,
which was banned in 1972.
And I think you and I are both
on the same page that the DDT ban
was stupid.
And people are still to this day believe
that that causes cancer.
Would you say that we are on the
same page about that?
Kind of, but they did.
I think there's the at least for me,
the jury's out on whether it caused the
egg, a certain birds to the pelican.
Yeah, our pelican.
Yeah.
They had to get rid of it because
of the pelican.
And, you know, Tina ran behind the DDT
truck when she was a kid getting all,
you know, all dusted up.
And she's still fine.
Well, there was a guy in San Jose
who is a professor.
I think San Jose.
He ate it.
Drank it.
He drank it.
He ate it.
Yeah, exactly.
In the US, we still have easy access
to pesticides that are effective in fighting back
bedbugs.
And no agenda pro tip, pro tip.
Here we go.
The pesticide you want to get rid of
bedbugs is called crossfire.
And can be picked up in nearly any
hardware store over the counter, even Walmart or
Amazon.
It's the same pesticide the pros use.
There's a tip.
Crossfire.
Have you heard of this product?
I've heard of crossfire hurricane.
Yeah, well, now you know.
In France, EU rules ban such pesticides.
EU countries do not have the same access
to effective pesticides we have here.
There's a very lucrative black market smuggling pesticides
available off the shelf from Home Depot into
these countries.
Wow.
Another Curry Dvorak Consulting Group business.
Exit strategy.
I heard something that you have not promoted
yet on this show, which I maybe you
felt it was out of place.
But since the success of TooManyEggs.com, there
is now a new book from Gateview Publishing,
which I believe is titled The ABCs of
Stock Investing.
Yeah, you can get the PDF there at
GateviewPublishing.com.
Explain what it is.
Explain what it is, because I like I
like your project.
It's just a kid's book.
It's a kid's book with ABCs.
And each one of the ABCs is some
sort of some some investment term for kids.
Yeah, with illustrations, with illustrations.
Yeah, yeah.
Illustrations.
No, it's cute.
I like your little publishing empire you guys
are putting together.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And I would recommend, by the way, since
we're actually in negotiations with another publisher for
the egg book for them to take over
the distribution rights.
If that happens, I'm pretty sure in this
I could talk him out of it.
The PDF will end up going away.
So I recommend, which I think is I
have my arguments for why you should PDF
all these products.
But, you know, this sounds suspiciously like an
exit strategy, John C.
Dvorak.
No.
And so it's a it's a it's a
tax strategy.
Oh, and so anyway, two minutes.
I'd come to PDF file, grab a copy
just for your bone.
Good.
That's too bad, because I was thinking, can
we not do our value for value book
and have that?
We're going to do it.
It's on the list.
We got to do three books next year.
Can we can we then have an exit
strategy?
Can I can I do my.
Wait a minute.
Can I do my own old.
Can I do my.
I was an MTV guy book.
Can we go?
Absolutely.
Held hostage by my hair.
You know, stuff like that.
Oh, great title.
Thank you.
I want to exit, John.
We need to be planning for the future.
That fast action bringing you down, getting that
ghosting, getting that trailing, getting that not so
good picture.
No, that's not what happens.
Oh, what's the problem then?
It just crashes.
It crashes.
What are you watching?
Is it YouTube TV?
Well, now, let's just quickly.
OK, the the NFL, which is a corrupt
organization, the way I see it, they just
take whatever whoever throws money at it.
Look at Taylor Swift.
Yes.
Whoever throws money at him.
And so the Amazon decided to stream live
football on Thursday nights.
OK.
And nobody like these Thursday night games anyway.
So let Amazon do it.
So they live stream.
It doesn't work.
It doesn't reload.
It says, oh, go to Amazon and help.
You can't get your video and then it
loads.
All of a sudden you'll get a bit
of it and then it's crashes with a
message.
Something happened.
OK.
And so you have to go back and
reload it again and again.
It doesn't say something went wrong.
Yes.
Something went wrong.
That's what it says.
That's my favorite message.
Yes.
Something you've seen that not during sports ball.
But yes, I've seen this.
Yeah.
Well, Amazon is overwhelmed.
Their prime video is out of control.
And yes, you see that message.
I tried to watch a reacher.
I had similar problems.
But when you try to watch the Thursday
night football game, except I suppose in some
areas, it's almost impossible because it's all going
through one small pipe.
Normally, a football game is distributed all around
the country through local stations over the air
and even on local cable.
And it's easy.
It gets distributed.
It's fine.
It's not one thin pipe, you know, where
everybody has to go to this pipe to
get their stuff.
This is a stupid idea.
And they're going to promote it even more
because I guess they just did a game
recently where they streamed a football game on
the Peacock Network.
I don't even know how to get that.
And nobody watched it.
This is unbelievable.
This is unacceptable.
Wow.
Twice in a month.
Start off with a complaint.
Let's go.
Well, you know, it's clear what we need
to do.
We need to buy up a whole bunch
of those local OTA stations and then start
broadcasting live sports.
I mean, we'll have, of course, we'll have
to be badminton with what we can afford,
but it'll be a start.
We can we can do if we can
do it with a fund.
Everybody, you know, everybody has a TV that'll
do.
Everyone's TV does that.
You just got to get your twelve dollar
antenna.
Don't you think it's a genius idea?
People are flocking to over there.
Yes, I think we have an exit strategy.
Because, you know, that I, as of January
1st, will have been with actually, to be
honest about it, since the next Christmas, I
will have been without a cell phone in
my pocket or any place else for that
matter.
I have not looked at one for an
entire year.
Yeah, you're amazing.
I am amazing.
I have not used and you know what?
It didn't make a damn bit of difference
in my life.
Well, no, that's right.
You're lonely.
No one visits you.
You don't know.
You don't know anybody.
But besides that.
But besides that, you're winning.
No, I need to bring this up because
of that previous.
In that previous note, two people notified me
this morning that Prince, Eric Prince, the guy
from G Academy, formerly known as Blackwater.
You know, he's rebranded three times.
The Blackwater guy.
We know him.
He's coming out with a phone.
And he's out there shilling the phone.
Oh, what a great idea for him.
That's an exit strategy for a guy like
that.
PBS did that.
You know, I was kind of stunned by
that short clip.
By the way, the clip of the day
goes to Neil.
The other half of the Jones Brothers.
The Jones Brothers like bringing the heat.
The Jones Brothers.
They want to do their own show.
That's what's going to do result.
That's the long term thing.
They do a show themselves.
Screw us.
Exit strategy.
No, wait, wait, wait.
You're seeing this all wrong.
Look at the opportunity.
The Jones Brothers do the show.
We executive produce.
Oh, and we don't do anything except collect
money.
Yeah.
Then we can't put anyone to death who's
on death row.
We can't kill criminals.
How does that work?
I think we both had a clip about
that.
They were going to suffocate some guy.
Yeah, suffocate some guy.
That was the latest one.
Yeah, I think I had a clip a
couple of shows ago.
Alabama is set to execute a criminal with
nitrogen gas tomorrow.
A method never used before.
The U.S. Supreme Court just declined to
block the state.
The man in question survived a different method
of capital punishment two years ago.
I'm not always surprised.
Like, oh, don't kill him.
Oh, that's cruel.
You can't.
But killing babies, that's cool.
That's all good.
Let's go protest for that.
I'm always baffled by our attitude towards death
in the United States.
Well, I'm baffled by the Republican and Democrat
schism regarding this.
The Democrats are OK with killing babies.
But they're not OK with death row.
Oh, no, we can't have the death penalty.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
The Republicans are just the opposite.
They're not good with killing babies.
But kill these bastards in jail.
So, I mean, it's just like the both
sides seem to have a like, you know,
maybe you should switch some views back and
forth.
I'm the only person I kind of think
is not a hypocrite is one that doesn't
want to kill babies or death penalty or
kill everybody.
Yeah.
And if we're going to kill everybody, I
want the primetime rights.
I've said this for many years.
Yeah, this is your goal in life.
This will be my exit strategy.
I want to produce.
You'd be worth billions.
Billions.
I'd be able to pay off that $500
bet.
The podcasts, which is what you do.
I know.
And we had a guy who invented some
new for a new form using MEMS. MEMS?
MEMS or MEMS?
MEMS. MEMS?
MEMS, M-E-M-S.
Look it up.
Microelectronic Magnet or something.
It's a small, movable MEM.
It's going to be the next big thing.
It always will be.
It'll be the next big thing.
It always will be.
He invented that?
No, he took MEMS and made a microscopic
speaker that if you put it in earbuds,
since it has no latency with the sound,
it's crystal clear.
It's fabulous.
It's going to be, if they get it
out the door, a fabulous product.
How many MEMS did he have in this
thing?
There's one MEM per site.
So two MEMS?
Yeah, two MEMS. Nice.
Okay.
And he was there with his fiancée who
was so adamant about the Taylor Swift-Kelsey
phony baloney relationship and she was going to
kill somebody about it.
This is what I...
Kelsey only dated black girls.
What's he doing with this white woman?
Oh, I heard he was gay.
That was the latest I heard.
Well, no, she's supposed to be gay.
Taylor Swift?
Taylor Swift's supposed to be a lesbian.
That's the latest.
And here we are participating in the op.
And by the way, just download some of
those photos.
She's obviously a lesbian.
You can tell me what she's up to.
It's in the photos.
Thanks, John.
That'll be in the newsletter.
Sign up to the newsletter, people.
Sign up to the newsletter.
So that was just generally a good group.
And there was a variety of people, as
usual, that was attending.
But I'm going to keep an eye on
these MEMS guys.
MEMS, all right.
MEMS on the word.
My ex-strategy.
Sell these things.
Yeah, that'd be fun.
Yeah, there you go.
Exit strategies that never materialized.
Which means we still have to work for
a living.
And we are happy to do it.
I was thinking, you know, so typically best
of shows will say, hey, you know, we'll
thank everybody on the next show.
I do want to do that.
But what I was thinking is, because we
still have access to the, thank God, we
don't have, you know, when Jay's looking around
for some of the passwords, like for MailChimp,
ask him if you can find, she might
just find the password to Dvorak.org.
We can change that, because I've been waiting
for that for three years.
Okay.
Yeah, right.
Noted.
And Jay's actually in the hospital as we
speak, sitting next to him with a notepad,
right, to say, what is the password for
this?
What's the pin to your computer?
That's so typical.
What was the first car you drove?
What was the mascot for your high school?
Oh, you're doing password reset.
Oh, that's fantastic.
Oh, this is great.
SecOps at work.
So no matter what amount, if you have
a note for John, we will read it
on the next show in the donation segment.
Even if it's $1, doesn't matter.
We will read the note and we'll record
it.
Of course, it'll be recorded and John will
hear it.
So anything you do in that regard would
be incredibly appreciated.
And as Mimi said, we still have bills
to pay.
So this is where No Agenda Nation can
come into action and carry us over this
rough spot.
Absolutely.
And, you know, John's, the first thing he
said to me was, you know, you got
to talk to Adam.
You got to talk to Adam.
I'm like, okay, sure.
You know, of course, that's the first thing
he thinks of.
It's like, you know, why don't you just,
you know, why don't you chill out?
Well, wasn't he like a newsletter?
Like, I got to do the newsletter.
Like, what are we going to do?
And I'm like, hey, you know, Mimi, you
know, tell him to shut up.
Like, what, how is he?
How is he doing?
He's very dedicated to it.
Very dedicated.
Yeah, he is.
So noagendadonations.com.
We'll be reading everything on the next show
in the donation segment.
We're not quite sure what it will be
on Sunday, but we'll have something.
I'm quite confident our producers will jump into
action.
We'll have something to play for you.
Otherwise, I'll sing for two hours.
Now you're talking.
You want to pay me to not do
that.
So now, Sunday, are you going to be
in, you're going to be in California Sunday,
I take it, right?
I don't know right now.
Maybe, maybe not.
It depends.
Well, maybe.
Bring your rig, because we can't unlock John's
computer.
So we need to use something to be
able to do the show.
I will bring everything.
So, yeah, wherever I am, it's fine.
I'll be available.
We'll stay in touch.
Yes.
Yeah.
How are you doing, Mimi?
Are you okay?
I mean, you're a positive person.
That's how I know you.
But this has just got to be really
weird.
It's, well, especially since this morning, the hospital
calls and they go, well, your husband didn't
want us to call you and make you
worry.
What?
Does he think I forget about him?
Like, what?
Oh, I haven't heard from him.
Well, sure.
Everything's just fine.
I heard he was going to the hospital.
Is he there?
Oh, goodness gracious.
I mean, it's fine.
Well, you know, we hold it together.
And the one thing about John and I
is we actually have a great relationship.
We laugh and joke around.
And you have to, because John is, he
says lovely things like, I've told you this.
Or his idea of a compliment is, God,
that dress doesn't make you look so fat.
I'm happy to hear that he treats you
the same as he treats me.
Oh, he's easier on you.
Well.
Joins the other wife.
Everybody loves him and we love you.
And again, we're all thinking of him and
of you and praying, of course.
And we're going to roll out the second
half of Circumference's best of exit strategies.
We'll come back at the end to say
goodbye.
Give me money.
And this brings me to a new exit
strategy for you and I.
I believe I have found an exit strategy
that we can even involve the No Agenda
Shop for this.
I'm very excited about this.
This is some new medical research.
I feel that we have the insight.
We have the knowledge.
We certainly have the testing grounds.
We have a lot of people who can
test our product and make sure it works.
This is a medical breakthrough.
People struggling with depression may be able to
ease their symptoms with certain scents.
Familiar smells help trigger life memories, assisting with
depression recovery.
University of Pittsburgh neuroscientists and social workers found
scents were more effective than words to cue
up happy memories and reverse the negative thought
cycle.
They believe familiar, memory-triggering scents could play
a major role in aiding faster, smoother depression
healing.
Odors are so powerful because they engage the
amygdala through nerve connections.
I'm thinking smells on a stick.
Your brother.
Come on.
We can work with all kinds.
We have lavender blossoms.
We've got lavender smells.
What an easy fix.
What is this called?
Smellography?
What is this?
Stink therapy?
There's some word for this.
It's been around for a while.
Stink therapy?
Stink therapy, yeah.
Fragrance therapy?
I'm not sure what it would be.
Somebody in the troll room should know right
off the top of their head what I'm
talking about.
Aromatherapy.
This is not new.
The research is new.
We can sell diffusers.
It's the original No Agenda amygdala shrinkage package.
This is a product.
It's a product.
You know how I feel about product.
Yeah, that's true.
We don't like product.
By the way, we have the No Agenda,
finally.
You'd think it took forever for the vinegar
book.
Here we have No Agenda what?
The No Agenda Primer, the ABC's book that
Jay worked on when she was in high
school.
That's a book?
Don't you remember?
Is it done?
It's so long ago.
Is it for sale?
It's going to be.
She's going to the printer so it'll be
coming out.
We have another website, gateviewpublishing.com, which will
have that.
No, $33.33. I said no.
Yes, $33.33. It will sell like hotcakes.
It's a kid's book.
Hey, my friend Ross and Marielle, they just
had a kid.
This morning, Roman is born.
I will buy a $33.33 kid's book
for Roman.
Well, I was hoping to get some.
Oh, thanks.
What, you wanted more?
You want to charge more?
No.
I think it's a great item.
And we'll all sign it.
Okay.
Well, for $33.33, you better sign it.
Exit strategy.
Kid's books.
Who would have thought?
ITM John and Adam, groups of three have
been appearing so I feel obliged to donate.
That's how it works.
You get the magic numbers.
You know what you have to do.
Winemaker.
Yeah, and I had a Chenin Blanc.
Am I pronouncing that right?
Yeah, Chenin Blanc.
With a pH of 3.33. Good number.
My $333 USD donation was a shade over
$510 in dollary dues.
And in order to capitalize on the woeful
exchange rate, which is woeful indeed, I would
like to reach out to GetMonation.
I'd be interested in expanding our distribution to
cover the United States.
My winery specializes in preservation-free wines.
Preservative.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Thank you.
Preservative-free wines.
If you're interested, please reach out to admin
at templebrewer.com.au. That is T-E
-M-P-L-E-B-R-U-E
-R dot com dot A-U.
Thank you for your courage, surplus keeper of
the Federal Reserve.
John, this sounds like an exit strategy for
you.
I'm getting the wine distribution.
Why not?
You could sit here and yak, yak, yak
or go out and actually do some work.
Nah, I think I'll stick here.
You should write a book about it.
That'd be great.
Well, I could.
So there's a report that has resurfaced from
2015.
It's very interesting.
And I think the Daily Mail had the
headline, Chewing gum for 30 minutes has similar
effects or appetite curbing effects to Ozempic.
And so I go, let me see, where's
this report phrase?
It's an old report, 2015.
It's from the National Library of Medicine, PubMed,
so that's official.
The effect of gum chewing on blood GLP
-1 concentration in healthy non-obese men.
So it's non-obese men.
But it says, Well, you're non-obese.
You shouldn't be obese.
Healthy men in a fasting state chewing sugarless
gum can increase satiety with no effect on
blood glucose and can decrease the decline of
GLP-1 concentration.
Chewing gum has no significant effect on blood
insulin and GIP concentration.
The present study suggests that chewing sugarless gum
may be an economical and effective method to
help obesity patients lose weight with no changes
in calorie intake.
Although there are different opinions about the benefit
of chewing gum, our study showed positive results.
It is worth conducting a large-scale clinical
research study to verify the effectiveness of this
method.
And I thought to myself, exit strategy, no
agenda, death-bound gum.
I'm telling you, we could get a snappy
jingle.
Obviously.
But we could sell gum that helps you
lose weight as effective as Ozempic.
We can even say, it's as effective as
Ozempic.
According to research.
It's safe and effective.
I mean, this could be a bonanza for
us.
There is, however, something apocalyptic on our horizon,
John.
There is something very bad about to happen.
Ah, spring.
The birds are back.
The flowers are back.
But for the first time in centuries, billions
of cicadas are also about to be back.
17 and 13 doesn't overlap too often.
As entomologist Dr. Frank Krell was alluding to
there, in a few weeks, the brood of
cicadas that emerges every 13 years and the
brood that emerges every 17 years are going
to pop out of the ground this coming
summer, the cicada-pocalypse.
What should we do when there are millions
of them here all of a sudden?
Oh, just enjoying them or going away if
we don't enjoy them.
They are not harmful.
Well, they may not be that harmful, but
cicadas are still quite the loud neighbor for
the four to six weeks that they move
into your backyard.
Some cicadas can even reach over 100 decibels.
Dr. Frank, we're just going to have billions
of males audibly competing with each other to
grab the attention of the female cicadas.
When they come out, they have to be
quick.
Before they get eaten, they have to find
a mate and mate.
Now, to be clear, it's mostly the 13
-year cicadas impacting the South and Appalachia while
the 17-year cicadas hit the Midwest.
But in states like Illinois, the
University of Sciences, a new study finds that
cicadas have the fastest urination velocity in the
world at three meters per second.
That's more than elephants and horses.
So I think the Windy City is about
to get real fun this summer.
Well, that part I didn't know.
I didn't know that either.
Cicada-pocalypse.
But I think we should capitalize on this.
We've had producers somehow.
But we have a publishing company now.
We need a cicada cookbook.
Oh, God.
No.
Just a thought.
I think we could put a couple cicada
recipes in the newsletter if anyone has any
good ones.
But I wouldn't have it.
Now that you mention it, I know that
people do eat these things.
Yes, I see.
It just tastes like lobster.
No, it does not.
Yeah.
It tastes like lobster.
Oh, OK.
I don't know.
I don't know what it tastes like.
It probably tastes more like.
You've heard of lobster from the sea?
It's lobster from the tree.
There you go.
You already got a jingle.
Hey, I can't even get you to jump
on board with Slenderman.
I mean, I'm just throwing out exit strategies
left and right.
You are full of them.
You are a unique man, John C.
Dvorak.
Very unique.
Almost as unique as Kate Starbird.
A new target is misinformation academic researchers.
Now this is this is something we could
get into.
Exit strategy.
Who began working closely with the platforms after
evidence of Russian interference online in the 2016
election.
Evidence.
Are researchers being chilled?
Absolutely.
Kate Starbird is a professor at the University
of Washington, a former professional basketball player, and
a leader of a misinformation research group created
ahead of the 2020 election.
Yeah, by Biden.
Yes, of course.
And she's a former basketball player.
She never mentions this.
This report, this CBS report, is classic nowadays
kind of reporting where they just leave stuff
out.
Screw you, the public.
Would you call that...
60 Minutes has just fallen off the ship.
Would you call that mal-information?
Misinformation?
I'd say so.
Or disinformation?
We were very specifically looking at misinformation about
election processes, procedures, and election results.
And if we saw something about that, we
would pass it along to the platforms if
we thought it violated their...
one of their policies.
Here's an example.
A November 2020 tweet saying that election software
in Michigan switched 6,000 votes from Trump
to Biden.
The researchers alerted Twitter that then decided to
label it with a warning.
I understand that some of the researchers, including
you, have had some threats against them.
I have received one.
Sometimes their threats are something behind them and
sometimes they're just there to make you nervous
and uncomfortable and it's hard to know the
difference.
I love...
it just jumps from, well, you know, the
votes change but you've had threats against you.
I mean, this is...
this is not even journalism anymore.
It's really bad.
And by the way, we all know who
really is behind all the disinformation.
Did your research find that there was more
misinformation spread by conservatives?
Absolutely.
I think...
not just our research, research across the board
looking at the 2020 election...
How about safe and effective, lady?
...found that there was more misinformation spread by
people that were supporters of Donald Trump or
conservatives.
And the events of January 6th kind of
underscore this.
USA!
The folks climbing up the Capitol building were
supporters of Donald Trump and they were...
they were misinformed by these false claims and
that motivated those actions.
...includes the removal of everybody.
This is from NTD.
Columbia.
Yes, got it.
Approximately 300 people were arrested at Columbia and
City College.
We are prosecuting the arrest to distinguish between
who were actual students and who were not
supposed to be on the ground.
These external actors with a history of escalating
situations and trying to create chaos, not to
peacefully protest, but create chaos.
The NYPD released a video of a professional
protest consultant who was reportedly seen instructing protesters
outside Hamilton Hall.
Hold on.
I like professional protest consultants.
I mean, professional protesters, yes, but a consultant,
that sounds like an exit strategy, John.
We could be protest consultants.
We could be podcast consultants.
We could do that, but that's the money
in that.
Definitely.
Yeah.
Did you see the...
Oh, God, there's one thing, the Biden pooping
thing.
Oh, the Biden pooping, the best use of
AI this year.
We need to do the No Agenda AI
Awards.
There you go.
Best category for fake video goes to Cat
Turn.
I'm in.
Cat Turn.
You're already, since I've been pushing for some
sort of awards from our show.
There's our awards.
The AI Podcast Awards.
We'll just throw podcast in there to give
it some validity, but it's not about podcasts
at all.
Just said the AI Podcast Awards because we
do the awards on podcasts and we hand
out the best, well...
And here's...
Best fake voice.
Yeah.
Best fake voice.
Best...
And, of course, we have to have an
R-rated category.
Best R-rated picture of Taylor Swift.
Oh, Taylor Swift.
It's its own category altogether.
Yeah.
And we should say best AI spokeshole.
Dear members of the media and the public,
I welcome you.
My name is Victoria Shi.
I have been created by the Ministry of
Foreign Affairs of Ukraine using artificial intelligence to
provide you with timely and high-quality information
on consular affairs.
I am a digital person.
That means that the text you hear was
not read by a real person.
It was generated by artificial intelligence.
I will carry out a number of tasks.
First and foremost, I will inform the public,
providing timely and verified information from Ukraine's consular
service.
Oh, wow.
It's...
Yeah, have you seen her?
Big catch.
Have you seen her?
Have you seen the video?
No, I have not seen her.
I know, but, you know, you have to
remember that the Japanese had an AI girl
who is extremely famous in Japan.
Somebody, one of our Japanese producers can remember
the name of this woman.
Oh, I know who you're talking about.
Yeah, and it was a face, and she
was a celebrity, but she was completely a
computer-generated.
But it was called, back then, when she
came around, this is five, six, seven, eight
years ago when she showed up.
This was called computer-generated.
Yes.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Like Max Headroom.
But it's the same thing.
Like Max Headroom.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like Max Headroom, exactly.
He can be one of our celebrity judges,
Max Headroom.
Yeah, he'd have to have his head jerking
around a lot.
Yeah, one of those guys.
Hey, I think we're onto something here.
It's begging.
The AI world is begging for an award
show.
Oh, yes, they need it.
They do, and then they can, and we
can tell everyone, hey, listen, you know, just
in case you win, wink, wink, nudge, nudge,
I think, you know, it's possible you might
have won.
Could you please do an acceptance speech?
Yeah.
Really funny.
Okay, well, the show creates itself.
A couple of things about, if you're going
to take it to the limit, a couple
of things that should be noted.
One, yes, you do that.
You bribe people with awards to get them
to speak.
Lifetime achievement award.
But the other thing is, not right away,
but I'd say within a couple of years,
probably within three, you'd have, to get nominated,
you have to pay a fee.
Oh, of course.
No, this is how it works.
No, there's an entrance fee.
Yeah.
That's how we make our money.
Yes.
$2,000.
That's how we make money.
Yeah, absolutely.
And then we make money on the catering
for the gala.
Yeah, there has to be catering.
There has to be a gala.
And red carpet.
Well, I don't know about that.
Well, maybe.
But some of the guys who do this
stuff, you don't want to see them on
the red carpet.
But there are so many companies.
Now, we're just doing it virtual.
We save money.
There are so many companies who have, you
know, the best, No, we're not going to
do a virtual.
We're going to have a real event.
Best prompt jockey.
Think about it.
That's going to be hard.
Here's the problem with that.
I would say not.
Merch.
I'd say no to that.
We're going to sell merch.
Yeah, merch.
Lots of merch.
Somebody else could do the merch.
We don't have to.
We just job it out.
But I would say, I don't like the
prompt jockey thing is going to be tough
because what you're doing is you're exposing probably
somebody's employee to poaching.
Yeah, okay.
They're not going to go for that.
But we can definitely get a whole bunch
of comedians to judge the funniest memes.
You know, the funniest video memes, the funniest.
You have a panel.
And then, you know, best, best faked leaked
audio like that.
Oh, yeah.
We can sit down and do the categories.
Okay, good.
All right.
So it's a done deal.
All right.
Exit strategy.
Beautiful.
Now, no, I think we can still do
the show.
How disappointing now.
It's just not a good idea.
Well, let's start off with the fact that
battery technology really hasn't changed since the late
1800s.
That's right.
When we had when we had electric cars
and everything's been a tweak.
And, you know, we can do this.
We can do that.
It's all tweaks.
It's a tweak.
So they get where we got today, you
know, lithium ion, sodium ion and all the
rest of them.
And they're all explosive, which is a problem.
Nobody wants to really think about.
Here's the here's the thought.
So if these cars are being discarded and
by the way, you know, I got a
note from one of our knights who interestingly
starts off by saying, I just stopped driving
a Tesla Model 3 for Uber last week.
I live in Orange County, California, and I
have been at 30 percent on the 10.
It's not a big deal.
And I'm thinking, OK, well, how can we
stop driving it?
But he says that, you know, the price,
$10 for a fill up compared to $70
was well worth it.
I think, well, how about the depreciation on
your car?
Which he didn't answer yet.
But if if these cars, you know, if
it's a write off at $20,000, so
you can probably probably buy it for five.
Hey, I'll give you five grand for that
car.
Can't we just take these?
I mean, do you think the batteries are
good enough that we can just put a
like a generator in the back, you know,
and just just pull the cord and drive?
I mean, seriously, I mean, I drive one
of those.
You're a hater.
I am.
I would drive one of those if you
could, if you could mount called a hybrid,
put a hybrid sticker on it.
If you could mount a generator in the
front, I guess, or whatever, just mount it
in there.
The little exhaust pipe sticking out and it's
and it's connected to the battery.
So it keeps a trickle charge.
You can just keep driving as long as
you have the hybrid.
Yeah, Toyota does those.
Yeah, but you can get it for five
grand and have a slick looking car.
Hold on, baby.
Are you looking for it?
So what you're thinking of is an exit
strategy for making the conversion kits?
Yes.
Evie, back to gas.
Evie to ice.
Yes.
So you put it, you take the trunk,
which is the front.
Usually there's a big there's a trunk.
There's nothing in there.
It's in the front, right?
You can put a small motor in there
with and you poke a hole in the
lid of the literally just of the hood.
Just poke a hole, just ram it in
with a nail, with a pipe out.
And then you have this thing and you
crank it up every time before you when
you hook it to the battery.
So it's charged, trickle charging.
Yes, and then we and we and you
we add with adhesive tape.
We stick a a solar panel on the
roof.
Gaffer tape or duct tape.
Gaffer tape.
Come on, we can make two grand a
car.
You buy it for five, you know, you
throw four maybe throw in a Jenny and
poke a hole for the to start.
I think this is yeah, this is your
this is Texas creeping into your brain.
Tell me what I'm not seeing.
I mean, come on.
It's it's it's embarrassing at this point.
It's embarrassing.
And Sam Altman, I tried to clip he
did an hour-long interview with his one
of his venture capital partners on their podcast.
This is the thing these days.
You have a VC company and then you
have it.
Well, this is not just these days.
It's been going on for years.
But you have your podcaster in residence.
I'm going to interview Sam about podcast in
residence.
I love that podcaster in residence for sure.
OK, what do you do?
I'm a podcaster in residence.
What do you do?
I sit here.
It's an exit strategy.
Yeah.
Hello, Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak here.
We are podcasters in residence for Kleiner Perkins.
Let's talk about some green tech, everybody.
I think this is one of my favorites.
He has said, you know, the future of
law enforcement is rich people will have private
security in your gated communities.
Everything will be safe.
It'll be private.
A lot of cops leaving the force, going
private, make three times as much money.
For the poor neighborhoods, you get drones.
What a dazzling view of Central Park, a
rare and glorious sight from 200 feet high.
The plush treetops to the skyline, all captured
by an NYPD drone.
I would love to see this drone patrol
areas that the cops cannot get to, that
they have to use maybe a scooter or
a bicycle.
Uh-huh.
The NYPD expanding its fleet of 85 drones,
now implementing a new initiative called Drones as
First Responders.
I'm going to put this drone station on
top of this precinct behind me.
Integrated into the 911 call system, the drones
will be piloted remotely from one police plaza
in the presence of a departmental attorney as
a safeguard against improper surveillance.
The first units being installed at three precincts
in Brooklyn, one in the Bronx, and at
the Central Park precinct.
Person shot, person stabbed, person robbed.
Crimes in progress are real serious crimes.
We're going to dispatch the drones autonomously and
it's going to fly to the, uh, wherever
the call may be.
The drones can get to places officers can't
because they have infrared cameras and they can
do so within seconds as opposed to an
officer on foot or in a car.
The great New York City Police Department who's
represented well here today has used drones to
assist with search and rescue efforts.
NYPD Deputy Commissioner of Operations Kaz Daughtry testifying
before Congress Thursday about the department's use of
emerging technology.
It's drones most recently used to inspect for
earthquake damage.
This is the New York City Police Department.
And for crowd control.
We're leveraging this technology.
We want to use this technology to keep
New Yorkers safe.
We want to introduce this technology into our
crime-fighting apparatus.
And this technology is a game-changer.
No, it's a game-changer.
Yeah.
This is the future.
I like the idea of the drone that
has like a, like a hand that we're
holding like a 45 and it's got a,
just this one gun.
And every time it shoots, it goes back
about five feet and then it comes back.
Citizens, citizens, stand still, citizens.
Put down that, put down that apple, citizens.
You're eating illegal fruit, citizens.
Stop it.
Now, I think that this is a time
for kids to consider, reconsider something that used
to be popular like, I guess, I don't
know, even in the 50s.
Slingshots.
Yeah.
Slingshots.
They're a great product.
Yeah.
Hey, hey.
Slingshots and a ball bearing.
John, exit strategy.
No agenda.
Get down a drone with a slingshot.
It's very doable.
No agenda.
Very doable.
No agenda slingshots.
Yeah.
They'll know, you know, the leather patch like
has no agenda on it.
And then on the other side, it says,
hit him in the mouth.
Come on.
You're right.
No agenda slingshots.
Ball bearings sold separately.
The wrist rocket.
That's it.
Trolldar, the wrist rocket.
Did you ever, I had a wrist rocket.
No, I was, I guess that was after
my time.
Oh, because it had, you know, the bar
that would rest on your, on your wrist.
Yeah.
I know what they are.
Yeah.
They're good product.
Outstanding product.
Yes.
Okay, kids, take it from uncle John.
Get a slingshot.
Hit that drone.
Slingshot.
That's right.
See how that works out for you.
Take this, take this, just press this button.
And then he goes to press the button
and nothing happens.
They, they, they swat him.
And then, yeah, we saved a savior.
Again, America, you know, that kind of nonsense
is happening all over the place.
We know people who've gone to jail over
nonsense.
Yes, we do.
And so, and then, so just kind of
to go on the theory that they really,
really want him to win the new MAGA
ad, which is actually, it's a, it's a,
over a minute and a half.
It's got like, what's the bill bars all
over it.
And, and all these people who, who distance
themselves from him.
Yeah, they stay and also stab Trump in
the back at one time or another.
Thank you for joining us here today.
Earlier this afternoon, Donald Trump was arraigned by
a Manhattan grand jury on 34 felony counts.
This case is an abomination.
You know, it's obviously political.
Seven years to try to come up with
this case.
They're just wrong on the law.
The only crime that Donald Trump is being
prosecuted for is the crime of running for
president.
Political persecution at the highest level.
They've quite frankly given up on trying to
be me at the polls.
Either going to steal it or stop it
by law firm.
A Democrat prosecutor elected on a get Trump
platform.
What's going on here is a disgusting disgrace.
It is war on Trump.
It is war on the Republican Party.
It is war on the Republicans.
This case is the weakest case I've seen
in 60 years of teaching, practicing, and writing
about permanent law.
I doubt the New York indictment would have
been brought against a defender whose name was
not Donald Trump.
This judge, I mean, you don't need a
prosecutor if you have a judge like this.
This judge is not on the level.
It's a terrible case, but the judge has
been pretty much a rubber stamp on everything
that Greg has wanted to do.
They're perverting the system of justice, and that's
where the danger lies.
The corruption and subversion of our institutions by
the left.
This is the Democrats' entire strategy to confine
President Trump to a dirty criminal courtroom and
keep him off the campaign trail where he
can bring his winning message to voters across
this country.
New York has become a legal banana republic.
They are so determined to get Donald Trump.
Look, convicting Donald Trump, that's all they have.
I think they have no cards, and they're
depending upon Trump getting convicted.
That Trump train doesn't show any signs of
slowing down.
The only verdict that matters is the verdict
at the ballot box.
Man, it's bombastic.
It's like hitting me in the face with
a wet salmon.
And Bill Barr has always been considered the
CIA's man.
Totally.
So he is not saying this on his
own.
No, no.
So now it's also, I mean, I'm just
looking at all the different possibilities here, because
of course it's not like one Democrat party.
It's not like one deep state that all
want the same thing.
It's obvious that Joy Behar, you know, she's
leaky.
So no, she's happy that Trump is going
to jail, she thinks, which it seems unlikely.
Although I still think an ankle monitor would
be a cool thing to do.
Because if they do that, then everybody will
be wearing ankle monitors.
Everybody everywhere.
It would be a fashion statement.
Hey, exit strategy.
There you go.
Now you're thinking, now you're thinking.
Yes, the entire account is entered into evidence.
Yeah.
And it was from the laptop and the
whole laptop fiasco thing.
Well, yeah.
51 liars.
Yeah.
How can you trust these guys?
It's inexcusable.
You know what I'm waiting for?
I'm waiting for someone to say, Mr. Hunter
Biden, what's that in your mouth?
Because it's a crack pipe, obviously.
Yeah, it's a crack pipe.
End of an era, John.
And an opportunity for you and me in
our never ending search for an exit strategy.
Tonight, after more than 40 years on Wheel
of Fortune, five more spins for Pat Sajak.
This week will be his last.
My name is Pat Sajak, and I've been
fortunate enough to wander onto the set.
Pat Sajak retiring after 41 seasons, starting in
1981, watched by generations of families.
We have a million dollar winner.
Sitting here, Pat Sajak, interviewed by his daughter,
Maggie, who works on the show and is
even filled in for Vanna White.
Somewhere along the line, we became more than
a popular show.
We became part of the popular culture and
more importantly, we became part of people's lives.
What made you decide that this is the
right time for you to leave the show?
I'd rather leave a couple years too early
than a couple of years too late.
Could I still do it?
Yeah, I think I could for a while.
There's also some other things in life that
we'd like to do, and I'm enjoying this
last year.
It's been a great 40 years, and I'm
looking forward to whatever's ahead.
So after 40 years, Pat Sajak is giving
up on the ever-popular show, Wheel of
Fortune, which leaves a gaping hole, Jon, open
for our game show, Win, Loose, or Drone.
I'm telling you, it's time.
The time is right.
Our game show will be an instant hit.
See them.
Showing the back scenes of it.
There's nothing hidden or nefarious that we're doing
with these drones.
They're there for public safety.
It's for your protection, people.
Don't worry.
Nothing to see here.
It's just for your public safety and protection.
And so now, I like this added feature
where they can stream the body cams up
to the drone and back to base.
That's cool.
And you know what they're going to be
doing.
If you and I were cops at the
Jersey Shore, what would we be doing, Jon?
Probably shooing green-headed flies away.
No, we'd be looking for thongs.
Hey, Bob!
Thongs, of course you are.
There was a test done some years ago
where they had some police officers were put
into a surveillance situation where they're supposed to
keep an eye on the front door.
And the next door neighbor's house was some
woman stripping.
Yeah.
They couldn't keep their eyes on the door.
They kept watching the girl.
And so, yeah, exactly, you're right.
That's exactly what you'd be doing.
But there was a little tidbit in there
that caught my attention.
When did you have to be FAA certified?
Oh, no, that's a must now.
You either have to have an existing pilot's
license or you have to get licensed.
Certainly if it's out of range so you
can't see the drone.
Oh, there's licensing now.
I haven't heard this.
We've discussed this many times.
Well, I find it obnoxious.
I even discussed it as a potential exit
strategy.
I got a pilot's license.
I can be babe watching.
Babe.
Babe watching.
It reminds me when I...
Can you imagine, by the way, can you
imagine being women on the beach and having
drones just hovering right over you with the
camera pointed down?
I mean, this is ridiculous, this whole thing.
It reminds me of my check ride.
When I did my check ride, so I
already did my theoretical, passed my theory test
and did my helicopter check ride.
And then, like a year later, I got
my fixed wing license when you don't have
to do the theoretical part, just the check
ride.
And I did it at Willamette Valley, at
Willamette Airport, which is a great airport because
you can crash land a 777 there.
It's huge.
It's a huge runway.
And the examiner, it's just an examiner, guys,
FAA guy, and he gets in.
I fly around.
He says, hey, take it down to 300
feet.
What do you mean?
Well, sometimes there's a babe over here and
she's nude sunbathing.
Let's see if we can see her.
This is my check ride.
It's like, what?
Are you kidding me?
There you go.
So the idea is a stock exchange that
doesn't have DEI requirements.
Is that the idea?
I have no idea what he's talking about.
He's just, it seems like just some sort
of a tax, you know, Texas looks for
tax angles and this is a good idea
for that.
Well, on that, Yahoo had a report on
this and it gave me an idea.
It's interesting to see this because you know
very well that there's a bit of an
IPO drought right now.
IPO volumes have been very, very muted.
When it comes to the Texas stock exchange,
I mean, what is the potential vision here
for the business in terms of what they're
targeting?
So it does seem like they're targeting corporations
that would go to NYSE and NASDAQ but
might be frustrated with some of the new
rules and regulations, the compliance that is put
in place.
Think about NASDAQ's board diversity program that they
have put in that might limit some companies
that don't meet the certain threshold that is
placed for listing on NASDAQ.
If they still want to go public but
don't meet the threshold, they might choose the
Texas stock exchange.
That is really what this business is targeting.
They want to be an open venue that
has less rules, less restrictions than NYSE and
NASDAQ.
They're going to really promote themselves as the
welcoming Texas state that is welcoming to companies
that might not want to go through the
hurdles that they would see in New York.
This is a fantastic opportunity.
This is just a scammer's delight.
No, we should take the no agenda show
public on the Texas stock exchange.
Yeah, there you go.
Think about it.
Everyone gets a share.
We go public.
Exit strategy.
We take some off the table.
Take a little off the table.
You know, we bring in Linda Liu.
We promote our code Bongino.
It would be a bonanza.
Take our crackpot.
Let's see how far it goes.
...I think is when we first got that
jingling.
We were probably talking about it in 2016.
The whole idea was you could have no
agenda producers take a nap because there'd be
less carbon dioxide exuded.
That would be a carbon offset.
It seems like there's no regulation.
It's a bonanza.
It's a free for all.
Let's listen to some more from NPR.
That feels like a big problem.
If your money isn't actually reducing as much
climate pollution as the offset claims, what's the
other issue?
Something called permanence.
Offsets are supposed to reduce or remove carbon
dioxide pollution, right?
The carbon dioxide.
Some carbon dioxide stays in the atmosphere hundreds
of years.
Some CO2 sticks around even longer, thousands of
years.
Here's the thing.
Wait, some CO2 sticks around for thousands of
years?
What is this magical dust?
By the way, I think the troll room
is right.
It must have been much earlier than 2017.
It must have been.
I think it was over 10 years ago.
Oh, no, I think you're right.
Let's go back to this carbon dioxide that
hangs around for a thousand years.
Some CO2 sticks around even longer, thousands of
years.
Thousands?
How do they know?
Is there still Jesus carbon dioxide hanging around?
Here's the thing.
The vast majority of carbon offsets only promise
to remove or store CO2 emissions for 40
years or less.
Cullen Ward says a 40-year promise of
reducing emissions does not compare to a 300
-year or several thousand-year impact of carbon
dioxide.
So if a lot of these are false
promises, is the government doing anything to address
these issues with offsets consumers?
I just love the breathiness of these two.
John, is there really anything that we can
do about these offsets?
Well, I don't know, Adam.
I think there's something that could be done
if we just spent the time on it.
I know.
So if a lot of these are false
promises, is the government doing anything to address
these issues with offsets consumers and companies are
buying?
Late last month, the Treasury Secretary, Janet Yellen,
announced new principles for high-quality carbon offsets.
Wait, Janet Yellen?
Janet Yellen announced something?
Ah, what is she?
Oh, yeah, she's a climatologist.
You didn't know that.
Consumers and companies are buying.
Late last month, the Treasury Secretary, Janet Yellen,
announced new principles for high-quality carbon offsets.
Ah, there we go.
We had the low-quality carbon offsets.
Now we're going to have a high-quality
carbon.
We're number one.
And foam finger number one for our offsets.
High-quality, that is, offsets that actually reduce
or remove climate pollution.
But researchers say even these new principles have
gaps.
For example, the principles do not identify how
long offsets have to keep carbon dioxide out
of the atmosphere.
No number.
Also, these aren't just principles.
Researchers worry without enforcement, these voluntary principles might
or might not be followed.
A Treasury spokesperson said, though the principles released
last month are voluntary, we believe they can
help guide efforts to address the challenges.
Okay, I finally, I figured it out.
It's the exit strategy to end all exit
strategies.
You ready?
Okay, I'm all ears.
How much carbon, because we can't say carbon
dioxide, how much carbon do you think is
caused by every episode of the No Agenda
show, taking into account the work that you
and I do, the seven, 800,000 people
who listen, the computers, the phones they're using,
this has got to be quite a lot
of carbon, don't you think?
I have no idea.
Let's put a number on it.
Theoretically, yes.
In fact, I have a clip coming up,
which makes it even worse, whatever the number
is.
Well, whatever it is, I think we should
sell carbon offsets to stop us from podcasting.
So think about it.
That's very counterintuitive.
No, it's fantastic.
So we need to sell the carbon offsets
so that we don't waste all of this
energy and carbon that's being just sloshed into
the air.
And the carbon that we are exhaling right
now will be around for thousands of years.
It's high quality carbon that we are getting
rid of.
And people could pay us to say...
Okay.
And then the viral clip this week regarding
AI came from the CEO of Microsoft AI,
Mustafa Suleyman.
Oh, yeah.
I'm glad you got this clip.
This is worth discussing.
With respect to content that is already on
the open web, the social contract of that
content since the 90s has been that it
is fair use.
Anyone can copy it, recreate with it, reproduce
with it.
That has been freeware, if you like.
That's been the understanding.
There's a separate category where a website or
a publisher or a news organization had explicitly
said, do not scrape or crawl me for
any other reason than indexing me so that
other people can find that content.
That's a gray area.
And I think that's going to work its
way through the courts.
John, I think we both have some experience
in copyright.
Maybe you want to weigh in on this
one.
Everything that's on the web is copyrighted.
Everything that people produce is copyrighted.
And to get to the point of fair
use, which we push the boundaries on because
we take clips, it has to be used
for some other reason other than its original
intent.
So, for example, we can take a clip
from NBC, but we're not using it to
present it as the news clip that it
was originally.
We use it to...
Educate, educate.
To deconstruct the clip, educate the public.
It's a different use.
It's a use that's different.
And it's not a lot.
It's a very small percentage of the original.
And it's all legal.
To take the entire web, which is he
implies, the entire thing is all public domain
and all fair use is bull crap.
But where does he get this idea?
This is going to be used against him
in a court of law.
This statement, in fact.
No, that's what I'm saying.
He's going to get burned by what he
did, that clip.
Every single MP3 we release has in its
ID3 tags a copyright, no agenda LLC.
I have sued corporations under the...
And in fact, I set jurisprudence suing a
publisher, a large publisher in the Netherlands for
taking my pictures off of Flickr.
Yeah, you can't do that.
Which I'd published under Creative Commons, which was
a distribute share alike, no commercial.
And they lost and I won.
And I'm still hoping for the day they
do it again, because then I get to
charge them 5,000 euros for every copy
for every day it's in circulation.
Oh, that'd be great.
That's an exit strategy right there.
Yeah, that's not happening.
No, that's not happening.
So it looks like one of those rubber
wheels.
You wear it around your neck and then
you press it.
And it doesn't...
And so it listens to you.
It doesn't respond to you.
It responds to you on your phone with
a text message.
Listen to the report.
I don't know how to move very good.
It's the video Silicon Valley is talking about.
I don't know, the effects are crazy.
A teaser for a wearable product called Friend,
which promises to be just that if you
consider AI to be your friend.
You kind of have this feeling of no
judgment.
And I think that allows you to be
a lot more authentic with it.
Avi Shisman, the 21-year-old who created
Friend and spent just shy of $2 million
for the website friend.com describes his product
as a good listener.
Sorry, I got you messy.
The most similar relationship you could attribute it
to might be a relationship with God where
it's this kind of omnipresent, all-knowing entity
that you have around you that you can
kind of like talk to in a silent,
private, confident way with no judgment.
Not everyone is sold yet.
It sounds like it's designed by people that
don't know how to make friends.
But tech professor Ahmed Benafa, who's tried many
AI devices, says this might hit the mark.
It reminds me with the case when you
have a very close friend and you feel
comfortable saying some kind of a dumb thing
to that friend without worrying that they're going
to judge you.
The company says the device will cost $99
when it's available, no subscription necessary, and it'll
essentially work like this.
You put the lanyard around the neck.
It'll have a pendant at the end of
it.
You push a button on the pendant and
it will give you encouragement, advice, feedback on
whatever it is you've been talking about.
Yes, it listens all the time, but the
company says it will not store any audio
recordings.
Schiffman believes it's an example of how AI
can help.
You know, I think having an AI friend
that will say, like, oh, good luck on
the interview will increase your productivity far more
than it reminding you that it's in five
minutes.
In fact, after we spoke, he sent me
this text from his friend named Emily, saying
that he nailed the interview.
Ugh.
His friend's named Emily.
Hello.
So I think there's product opportunities.
Yeah, go ahead.
I think it's a good idea, by the
way.
Me too.
And I'll tell you why.
We had a conversation at the dinner table,
and JC had some stats about how different
generational groups have less and less friends to
the Z group, the Zeds, the Zeros, whatever
you want to call them.
The Zoomers.
The Zoomers, they pretty much have zero friends.
They have, like, their average number of friends
outside of, you know, besides outside the family
is one.
Yes.
When you go to the Millennials, it's like
four or five, and you go to everything
else is a little higher, or at least
it's that many.
But it's not one.
I think there's some real exit strategy opportunities
for us here.
First of all, I think it would be
great just to have an AI called God.
You know, he said it.
Well, it's like having God with you all
the time.
Okay, good.
We can do that.
Or how about your real friend, which is
Adam and John?
And we're going to be real friends.
Like, you look like crap.
Your butt looks big.
Tuck your shirt in.
Show up on time.
Get off my lawn.
So a nagging duo.
No, real friends.
Real friends.
Yeah, well, that's real friends do.
Who really care about you.
It's like, no, the essay sucks.
Get off chat.
Get off Twitter.
Yeah, get up.
Get out of bed.
That's what you want.
Case in point, I really see the easy
way to look at charts.
But a lot of unsophisticated investors use it
for their news and information.
This is who is this?
This dude, Patrick Moorhead, an analyst.
I really see.
I know.
You know, Patrick Moorhead used to be a
very famous public relations guy for AMD.
Oh, interesting.
Well, he's now an analyst.
I really see two major, actually three major
buckets for AI plays.
The first one is this infrastructure.
Anybody who is related to building out these
massive data centers with GPUs in them, I
think are very, I'm very confident next 12
to 18 months, that's going to be the
case.
And we saw the capital expenditure commitments by
Microsoft and Meta and Amazon.
It is absolutely pedal to the metal on
that.
And then there's the longer term downstream, right?
The enterprise software providers, that there has to
be benefit in a large scale for all
this to interconnect because there is just factually
an overinvestment in the capability versus the downstream
benefits at this point.
And if that gear doesn't connect in let's
say 12 months, what's going to happen is
the investors of these enterprise software companies are
going to be asking, you know, where's the
benefit and have super pressure on these companies
to start scaling back.
And that is when all bets are off.
This is going to come apart so beautifully.
Every single day I receive emails from dudes
named Ben like, oh man, we had to
implement one of these AI things.
It's just a stupid chat bot.
Our customers hate it.
We hate it.
It doesn't work.
20%, 25%, 30% of the answers it
gives is wrong.
It's not, it's not working.
Now this, your buddy Patrick did have an
interesting side note here, but I think he's
reading this, the tea leaves the wrong way.
And then the final thing I want to
add is I still think there's this untapped
opportunity which is the AI PC and AI
smartphones.
You know, we saw a little bit on
the AI smartphones related to Apple.
We saw a slight bump on that, but
when you consider there's only one generation of
Apple smartphones that can do all the AI
tricks out there, and then people are gonna
have to buy new smartphones, new tablets, and
even new Macs.
That's really, I think, good news for companies
like Apple and Qualcomm and even AMD and
Intel.
I see it exactly the opposite.
I don't think a single person is going
to want to buy a new phone that
costs even more because of AI tricks.
I think it's gonna hurt Apple.
Like, I don't think I want this thing.
You have a negative attitude.
Of course, this is your beat.
Very, very negative attitude.
And you are very negative.
My son who works in AI.
Well, he's been silenced.
He thinks it's the best thing.
No, no, he says.
Oh, okay.
He says something that you can put in
the red book, and I think he might
be right.
He thinks that it's got enough legs to
go two more years.
Wow!
Two more years?
In other words, yeah.
Most people that see bubbles like you do,
this idea of being a bubble head, always
are premature.
And I'm guessing he's probably right about the
two years.
Now, that means we'll have our cable business
in place.
Yes.
Because it's only gonna take us about a
year to do it.
Oh, wow.
That's good.
Our exit strategy is on deck.
I love it.
We could really find ourselves in trouble.
So, what are some of the specific issues
RFK has been wanting to take on?
For example, and I think this is one
that many health professionals are actually in favor
of, which is better regulating our food supply,
in particular, food additives, preservatives, ultra-processed foods.
But you actually need to know how to
navigate the science, how to navigate the law.
And to get that done, you would really
need to have Congress on board.
Congress may have to grant some additional authorities,
particularly given some of the decisions made by
the Supreme Court in recent years, the Major
Questions Doctrine, for example.
And without the right backup, scientific backup, it's
gonna be very difficult for him to get
that done.
She says something very interesting here, which I
caught it only the second time I listened
to the clip.
She's talking about doctrine.
Now, in one case, she's saying, she's mentioning
kind of, without saying it, the Chevron deference.
But then she says the Major Questions Doctrine,
which is another form, which I hadn't heard
of.
And luckily, we have our constitutional lawyer who's
going to help us with this.
But this is another, it's another version of
a deference like Chevron deference.
I think they call it the clear statement
rule.
When the agency asserts it has authority to
decide major questions, court should independently determine whether
the agency's interpretation of its statutory authority is
the most reasonable reading of the statute.
That's Chevron deference.
Under this Major Questions, the doctrine says that
courts must not interpret statutes as delegating major
questions to agencies unless Congress clearly said so.
So she is on the inside somehow and
already knows that this is where it's going
to go towards.
And probably another Supreme Court ruling about this
Major Questions Doctrine, which is new for me.
So we're going to get the skinny on
this.
Rob, our constitutional lawyer, sends me a quick
little note.
Good summary of the Major Questions Doctrine.
When you're ready, I'm hiring you.
All right, I have an exit strategy.
I'm going to become a lawyer.
He says it's all about the separation of
powers.
Congress needs to do its freaking job and
quit abdicating.
I got a culinary tip, which I've been
sitting on for a while.
And boy, that hurts.
And this is a product that is used
in Southeast Asian cooking.
And I've gotten to a discussion with JC
about it.
He claims that this is originally a condiment
or flavoring ingredient that came from the Romans
and then somehow got to China, where then
it was changed over time to Southeast Asia,
where they make it all over the place.
It's called, and it's got a, I don't
think the name's appropriate, but it's called fish
sauce.
Fish sauce, all right.
Now you can find it, you can get
it on Amazon.
There's a bunch of brands.
In fact, there's more brands than you can
imagine.
I would recommend people start with Red Boat,
which was a fairly new fish sauce maker,
but he does it the right way.
Fish sauce is made from black anchovies that
have been fermented in salt for one year
in a barrel.
And as with French cooking, sometimes you use
anchovies like they're used in Caesar salads and
they're always salted and you scrape it off
and you mix it into different sauces.
This accomplishes the same thing.
And a couple of things you should know.
One, it doesn't taste like fish.
Good to know.
And I would recommend getting Red Boat, which
is done by, which is a new company,
fairly new company developed by an Apple engineer
who is Vietnamese and he couldn't find good
fish sauce because what the Asians do and
what smart European cooks do is you use
it as a salt substitute in spaghetti sauces
and soups and stews.
That was going to be my question, is
what do you use it on?
So as a salt substitute in spaghettis and
soups?
Yeah, it adds umami that you wouldn't get
from salt, like a lot of it.
It's an umami ingredient which is the latest
buzzword in the cooking circles is umami, which
is mouthfeel.
And it adds umami and a lot of
salt.
What you do is when you buy it,
you dish a bottle of Red Boat, which
is a starter.
There's all kinds of companies that make this,
but this is the one that's extremely popular
in this country because of the Apple connection.
The guy knows how to market to Americans.
You take a drop or two of it
and put in a spoon and taste it.
You'll see what I'm talking about.
It's electrically salty and delicious, but it doesn't
taste like fish.
It's just some sort of, and I'm sorry
that they call it fish sauce, but that's
basically, it's fermented anchovy juice.
It's bad marketing, fish sauce.
Well, it's just what it's called.
So you put a couple of shakes in
your spaghetti sauce as a secret ingredient.
It'll knock the thing up two notches in
terms of the deliciousness.
Exit strategy.
Do you think you could make this fish
sauce?
Do you think you have the chops to
make it?
I could make it, but I wouldn't do
it cost effectively like they can in Cambodia,
for example.
Yeah, but wait, but wait.
That has nothing to do with it.
You just need the right branding.
For instance, I can see a two-for
-one, John C.
Dvorak's seasoning of reveal, and as a bonus,
you get umami magic.
Now that's a name for a fish sauce.
Umami magic, that's a good name.
Come on.
Okay, well, then the way it should be
done is to think ahead of the game,
private label some stuff out of Vietnam.
Just get some crap and put umami magic
on it.
No, it's not crap.
I'm telling you, this stuff, if people start
using this in their everyday cooking...
Can we...
No, I will say this.
Exit strategy.
This is an exit.
Umami magic is a winner.
Okay, and I wrote it down.
Yeah.
...did the sale of Alex Jones' Info Wars
to the satirical news outlet The Onion.
Federal bankruptcy judge Christopher Lopez cited problems with
the auction process and said the outcome left
a lot of money on the table for
families of the Sandy Hook school shooting who
stand to receive most of the proceeds.
The Onion, which had planned to relaunch Info
Wars as a parody site, bid $1.75
million in cash plus other incentives, while a
company that sells nutritional supplements in Jones' name
offered $3.5 million.
The decision means Jones can stay at his
Info Wars headquarters in Austin, and Jones quickly
went back on the air to applaud the
judge's decision.
Christopher Maddy, a lawyer for the Sandy Hook
families, said they were disappointed in the judge's
ruling, but they are as determined as ever
to hold Jones and his businesses accountable for
the harm he caused.
Courts have ordered Jones to pay nearly $1
.5 billion in restitution for falsely calling the
2012 school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, a hoax.
That's not correct for falsely calling.
That's not correct.
But at least we know it was the
boner pill guy.
That must have been a good business.
Yeah, well, Alex was selling a lot of
pills.
And he wanted to keep him selling pills.
He was the front man for this guy.
Yep.
So they bid one something million, and, well,
I can top that.
Yeah.
Do this in a week.
Why don't we sell pills?
We could be killing on these pills.
And you know what?
We're getting to the age where we can
say, hey, I'm taking these pills, and look
at me.
Yeah.
I'm still alive.
I'm doing great.
Use code Bongino.
Come on, man.
It's an exit strategy.
Yeah, I don't think so.
I can call Alex his boner pill guy.
And we could probably get a five-figure
deal for this podcast.
We get a five-figure deal.
Hey, man, we're looking for offers.
Five figures, not a penny less.
And you get the feed with it.
We'll throw in the feed.
Although I have an exit strategy.
Our feed is worth more than $10 million.
Oh, wow.
What's the exit strategy?
Oh, well, it's something that you're kind of
already good at.
Yeah?
Yeah.
What could that be?
AI influencers.
Yeah.
There's something called – it's just 39 seconds.
It's really bad, but at least you get
an idea.
It's the Lush Exchange, and they help you
– I mean, you got to see the
video.
They help you put together with the AI
tools your own influencer, which you can then
use on Instagram.
Oh, I see.
You're referring to Becky.
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So you can build your influencers.
You can then list them like a token.
So people can buy pieces of your –
it's a great idea, I think.
And I love it because this is going
to fill everything with this slop.
You have the ART tokens.
What was that about?
Remember that?
That's short-lived.
The ART tokens?
Yeah, where you draw ART.
Oh, NFTs?
NFTs?
Yeah, that.
Yeah, that's kind of – Yeah, this is
the same kind of thing that keeps reinventing
it in different forms.
Yeah, yes, but I think that Scaramanga, that
he will be a billionaire within the next
five years.
Well, Scaramanga could be the one because he
definitely has the chops for it.
I mean, and just – did you ever
see that movie he did, the video?
No, I haven't – yeah, no, you didn't
send me the link.
Okay, you've got to see it because it's
so good.
Just imagine that with the influencer on OnlyFans.
Are you kidding me?
I can be his agent.
No, you've got to – listen, I already
set you up before that.
You write the scripts.
Dame Jennifer reads them because that'll be the
differentiator.
You've got a real – Yeah, well, she's
got the voice for it.
You've got a real person to do the
voice, and Scaramanga does the – hey, wait
a minute.
Why am I giving you the exit strategy?
I need to be in on this deal.
We'll cut you in.
Okay, just for the idea.
You can be the manager.
I can be created by.
You and Brunetti.
Created by.
Brunetti, he should be in on this too.
He knows smut.
It'd be great.
I'm telling you, this is going to be
a huge business.
Yeah, we could put a team together.
It's probably already – half of the influencers
probably are already fake that are out there.
I mean, it's – and it's going to
ruin social networks.
It's going to be awesome.
Well, that would be a plus.
Yes, that's why I'm trying to promote it.
All these influencers that are out there, and
there's so many of them, they're all bogus.
Yeah, you don't want – you want ones
you can control.
They can dance.
They can walk around, show their clothes.
They can do the makeup videos.
It's great.
It's this guaranteed moneymaker, and someone's going to
be – We're all in.
We're in.
We'll use the podcast to promote it.
Yes, we will.
We'll promote Becky.
I don't think Becky is a good name,
though, for our influencer.
We have to have a different name.
We'll come up with better names.
Raven.
Wait a minute.
Where is my Raven?
Here we go.
Straight from Reseda, here she is, Raven.
Give it up.
We should resurrect Club 33.
It's a member-only subscription, and then you
can take the girls into the private room
for a dance.
It's like influencer-only fans.
Yeah.
I got a mile a minute, baby.
I got ideas.
Yeah, you're on a roll.
How many cups of coffee – how many
gigawatt coffees did you have this morning?
This comes in line with – people should
go track down the Mark Stein lectures that
were done at Hillsdale College.
Oh, man, yeah.
I saw them.
Have you heard these things?
Yeah, Tina was playing some of it.
This is against the climate change guy?
Yeah, Mark Stein – I'm pretty good at
understanding some of these libel and slander issues,
and I'm not sure.
I had to read the case to see
what's really going on here, but Mark Stein's
been in court for 13-plus years or
so, 12 to 14 years.
I can't remember the exact number, but years
in the D.C. courts, which are hung
up.
Six or eight years.
It's been going on for a long time.
He made the comment based on the hockey
stick – the already debunked, many times debunked
hockey stick graph.
Let's just say scientifically disproven instead of debunked.
No, he said the guy was a fraud.
And the guy, the person who put that
hockey stick thing together, sued him for slander
or libel or something for some outrageous amount
of money, which will be a dollar or
two when it's done.
And it's been in court because of the
D.C. court system for years, decades.
Michael Mann.
Michael Mann is the guy.
Michael Mann.
It was Michael Mann?
Yeah, Michael Mann is the guy who sued
him.
Michael Mann is the hockey stick guy.
Okay.
And so he got his tit in the
ringer for just making this comment.
And this is very concerning.
Well, how about this?
How about value for value?
People are using that everywhere.
I think we should sue them.
And they're Bitcoiners, so they got Bitcoin, they
got some coin.
You go after the big guy, you're using
value for value, man.
You can't do that.
I can hear the gears turning in your
head.
John's like, exit strategy.
Yeah.
I don't think we can do that.
I do have good news.
There is a possible exit strategy for Adam
and John, finally.
And this comes from Canada.
And it's a medical breakthrough.
And we literally can make so much money
if we participate in this exit strategy.
First, I need to know if you're interested.
We're interested in all good ideas.
I got the tech grouch lined up.
Really?
I'm getting closer, because I had to get
a new tech grouch cap.
And I just ordered some new tech grouch
glasses.
You're going to do tech grouch, but not
going to do the microphone company or the
vinegar book?
No, they're all coming.
Here is a possible Adam and John no
agenda exit strategy.
This trio of medical researchers is hyper-focused
on an area of study most of us
would flush away.
Poop.
Together, they have launched the world's first overview
of poop pills, designed to extend the lives
of advanced pancreatic cancer patients.
The team is searching for healthy poop donors
who can offer hope to patients currently facing
a five-year survival rate of less than
10%.
The two-year phase one fecal transplant study
will see patients consume a large quantity of
tasteless and odorless pills in one sitting.
It's hoped the microbes inside each capsule will
offer cancer patients a better chance to fight
their tumors during chemotherapy.
Already, poop pills have improved the lives of
those battling other types of diseases and cancers.
But you might be surprised to learn that
the best type of human poop is in
short supply.
Only one in 43 samples passes the quality
test.
Those who do are coveted by the team.
When you are, you really have like golden
poop and you can really save lives.
John, we can save lives and become millionaires
if we have the golden poop.
I think we should try out.
Oh, God.
Quantum computing is the new climate change, John.
That's what that is.
It's all bull.
It's smoke and mirrors.
It's all of this, this AI, it's all
fantastic for making deep fake nudes.
It's really good at that.
It's great at making, you know, Scaramanga makes
movies about Jesus in a coffee shop.
It's great for that stuff, but I just,
you know.
We know your position.
But I would be all for, I mean,
think of the exit strategy.
If we could train an AI to have
our views and our insight.
And we have 17 years of transcripts and
audio to train an LLM, a large language
multimodal model on it.
And do our voices and answer an email
or two.
We could kick back and relax, baby.
How come we can't get this?
We could.
Show me.
Well, I'm not going to do it.
Why?
For one thing, it wouldn't have the contemporaneous
gags.
So you're telling me AI is no good.
The old material, the jokes would be recycled.
Of course, a lot of people haven't heard
the material anyway.
You're making my point for me.
Yeah, you might be right.
I'll talk to some people about it.
Yeah, okay.
I did have an exit strategy, which you're
going to roll your eyes when I tell
you this.
Okay, let me pre-roll.
Okay, go.
Do a pre-roll.
Because I finally, like, oh.
And there was some other bullcrap award show,
the 50 over 50 or something for podcast
blah blah.
50 over 50.
Whatever it was.
And then I'm like, here is an award
show, an award that only we can give,
this show.
And it's completely valid and will be revalidated
every year because I'm on the Rogan show.
With grace, I'm on once a year.
Yeah, I've been on that show six times.
I thought it was five, but it's six.
The finishing returns.
Are you ready?
Yeah.
The Podfather Awards.
Oh, I like it.
I knew you would.
No, you said I'd roll my eyes.
You didn't.
What do you change your mind out of
it?
Oh, I knew you would.
No, the fact that I.
You prefaced it, oh, you're going to roll
your eyes.
No, no, I knew you'd like it.
No, the fact that I'm in on an
award show, that part of always been against.
But then I thought, why don't I exploit
this?
And there's people always on X yelling, you
idiot, you nerd.
He's not the Podfather.
Adam Curry's the Podfather.
And I have proof.
And I think it's possible.
I want to stop you right now.
I have been saying that we should be
doing awards for a decade.
There's the eye roll.
But I never considered the podcast.
Oh, no, you never considered since it was.
You never.
Once it's named after you, you're in.
Yes, I'm in now.
This is I'm in.
This is it.
No, you look.
This is no time for ego, John.
There's no time for ego.
It can be.
No, it's not.
It makes no sense.
Ted Grouch Awards just doesn't cut it.
All right.
We can do those later.
It does not the same thing.
Ted Grouch Awards will be great.
Not to mention it.
But here's the trick.
It has to be a gala.
Or as I like to say, a gala.
Yeah, America, they always say gala.
It has to be a gala.
I think the Brits say gala, too, for
some reason.
Somebody says gala.
Well, we're going to say gala.
And I think because he never shows up,
he never accepts an award.
I think if we have the right award,
I can get Joe Rogan to come.
And we can do it in his club.
How about that?
You're liking it, right?
Well, I like it except for the fact
that I may have to travel.
You don't.
You just have to write stuff and just
post memes.
You don't have to come.
If you don't want to, if it's too
much trouble for you to come to the
gala, if it's too much trouble to come
to our Podfather Awards, and we need to
come up with categories.
But they have to be funny, fantastic categories.
They have to be good categories.
Well, yeah, like best value attainment.
Not joke categories.
How about best value attainment?
See?
Okay, well, you give me some ideas.
How about longest podcast with no information?
We'd win that one.
With no information.
Candace Owens, ladies and gentlemen, the Podfather Award.
And what do we call them?
Do we call them the Poddies?
No.
The Poddies, oh.
That would be the nickname that we'd rail
against.
People keep calling these the Poddies, but it
sounds like potty training.
Yeah.
So it would be, you can get an
Oscar.
Actually, the Poddies is not a bad nickname.
You can get an Oscar.
It's part of the, now it used to
be a trifecta, but it's the Oscar.
You get the Grammy Award.
The Ergot.
Oh, so the Pergot.
So now you need to add the Podfather
Award.
You are not complete unless you all, and
everyone has a podcast.
Yeah, they can all win.
All those actors have podcasts.
Best comedy podcast.
That's one category for sure.
Then you get some hot, you get Dana
Carvey or somebody to come out.
And we get those libtards from the, what
is it?
Jason, what's his face?
What's the libtard show?
The one that helped all the presidents.
J.
Cal?
Oh, J.
Cal, he gets an award for sure.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Best all-in podcast.
Yeah, we can have best female podcaster.
Think about that.
No, we don't want to do a sexist
stuff.
Yes, we do.
What are you talking about?
Then best trans podcast.
Best gay podcast.
There's a hit.
Yes.
Okay.
Well, it's, I just want you to think
about it.
You know, since I've.
No, I got, I'm in, but.
I'm triding you.
Well, the categorization.
I think you, you're already taking me on.
You're taking it too lightly.
All right.
Well, where's your ideas?
Brainstorm.
I.
What?
Yeah.
I had nothing but ideas about this for
a decade.
Well, then spout them off.
What are we doing?
First of all, you have to, you have
to pay to enter.
Oh, no.
Well, then that's what all the, all the
podcast awards you have to pay to enter.
No.
Okay.
You don't pay real awards.
You don't pay to enter the Academy Awards.
You don't pay.
You have to be a member of the
Academy or.
Oh, we have to be a member.
We have an Academy.
You have to be a member.
Well, maybe that's not a bad idea.
The Academy of podcasting.
That actually exists.
And it's a horrible leftist organization.
We want no part of it.
Really?
Yeah.
The podcast Academy.
Wow.
Okay.
Well, forget that.
No.
But how do we make money?
Oh, you want to make me that dude?
I thought it was a promotional idea.
The money making is part is a promotion
for the show.
Oh, okay.
Wow.
Value for value.
Oh, boy.
Okay.
Oh, man.
You just wanted to cash in on some,
on some.
Yes.
All of a sudden.
Strategy.
Can we get a.
Collecting fees.
Can we get this thing sponsored by.
Now you're talking.
Square space.
Can we get sponsored by square space and.
We could do that.
Sponsorship.
Underwriting.
Sponsorships.
Whatever you want to call it.
Yes.
TVs.
Yeah.
Do what that guy does.
Does it?
You know what?
People use anything as an issue.
I've always said this when you do soliciting.
People use anything as an excuse not to
donate.
That's right.
Oh, you know, Adam likes to color red.
You suck.
I'm not going to donate because you don't
like to.
You like the color red.
I mean, it's just not to donate.
No, it goes like this.
I was about to donate.
Yeah.
But then Adam hated the color red.
And I decided no.
That's my favorite.
I was I was for weeks.
I've been thinking time to donate.
I was just about to donate.
And then you said something that pissed me
off.
So now I'm not going to donate.
Yeah, that's all right.
That is our that is the true exit
strategy.
When people stop donating the we exit.
Yeah.
So it's up to you.
It's not even up to us to find
one.
It's up to you to not not make
us go away.
Like the like your favorite shop on the
corner.
It is up to them.
Yeah, it is.
There you go, everybody.
The best of exit strategies revisited.
Thanks again to John Jensen Circumference.
He sent that in about two months ago.
And boy, am I happy we had it
was perfect.
Perfect timing and a perfect topic, too.
Funny enough.
Yeah.
So we'll know more.
On Sunday, we'll have an update.
As we said, this procedure is, you know,
it's like they do this all day long.
And John is a healthy guy.
So I'm sure he'll be he'll be out
and up in no time.
And extra cranky.
And now he can say I can't eat
salt.
Oh, yeah.
Well, we're going to have to start policing
that.
Sure.
I know.
Poor John.
So anyway, thank you, Adam.
No, Mimi, thank you for coming on.
Thank you for keeping us up to speed.
And we'll talk on Sunday and we'll have
more information.
Sounds perfect.
Thank you.
All right, everybody.
We will talk to you on Sunday.
Be thinking of him until then.
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We'll see you on Sunday as always.
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