We're better than you are.
No, you suck.
Adam Curry, John C.
DeVora.
It's Thursday, February 12th, 2026.
This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation media
assassination episode 1842.
This is no agenda.
Epstein elections, drones, outrage as we broadcast live
from the heart of the Texas Hill Country
here in FEMA region number six.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
Hey, I'm from northern Silicon Valley.
We're wondering whether the Nancy Guthrie story is
similar to the Iran saga.
I'm John C.
DeVorak.
Well, there's a comparison I hadn't heard yet.
The Iran hostage crisis.
This— Remember how long that went on?
Didn't it go on for like 140 days?
I think it was a year.
It was a long time if I recall.
I mean, I was young, but yes, I
recall.
I recall.
Nobody else cares.
Well, there's a few interesting things about the
Nancy Guthrie case.
I don't know if you have any clips.
I happen to have something here.
Well, I was hoping not to discuss it.
Since you brought it up.
Well, the only thing that's really interesting is
the Ring camera.
The Ring camera is interesting because Google and
the FBI were able to retrieve some video
from back-end systems where, gosh, that was
kind of odd because she did not have
a subscription.
Nancy Guthrie did not have a subscription.
This is— So they bring on— So they're
stealing the material anyway.
Subscription or no subscription.
Yeah, this is great.
So why bother having a subscription?
So they bring on the founder of Ring,
Jamie Siminoff.
I guess they— didn't they sell that?
Did they sell it to Google?
It was independent.
I think it was independent and Google bought
them.
Google bought them?
Well, listen to this.
Nancy Guthrie did not have a subscription.
As you said with your product, if there's
no subscription, you're saying there's no way to
find the data.
The FBI apparently worked with a parent company
in this, Google, to be able to get
the data.
For people who have a Nest camera, even
if you're not subscribing, that does create the
possibility, it sounds like, that your data is
still somewhere in what they're calling a back
-end system.
I'm just curious if that surprises you that
they were able to find it in that—
Well, I'm so surprised.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to speculate.
Maybe they're also— maybe we're wrong and that
she did have some sort of subscription.
In these cases, I've found that a lot
of the things that we're hearing are not
always correct and we find out later what's
actually happening.
I do know with Ring specifically, if you
delete a recording or if you don't want
a recording, you don't have a subscription, we
do not have it stored.
I know that because I've built the systems
with my team.
But again, I'm happy to see here that,
you know, for whatever the reason was that
they were able to, with this camera, recover
this because I do think this evidence is
hopefully going to lead to a solution here
to this really just tragic case.
And we really don't know, was it a
Nest camera, a Ring camera?
It's all so complicated.
But the reason why it was interesting to
me and clearly to the team at Fox
News was because of the Super Bowl commercial.
And it raises— all of this raises the
issue of surveillance.
And we want to get to Ring's recent
ad that aired during the weekend's big game,
the Super Bowl, promoting the camera's new search
party feature.
The AI feature, a search party for dogs.
And it's getting some serious pushback over privacy
concerns.
But let's let the viewers take a look.
One post of a dog's photo in the
Ring app starts outdoor cameras looking for a
match.
Search party from Ring uses AI to help
families find lost dogs.
Since launch, more than a dog a day
has been reunited.
A dog a day!
Dog a day.
Jamie, were you surprised at the backlash?
Because some of the reaction was surveillance state.
Surveillance state!
Yes, yes, yes.
Why are you yelling?
And were you surprised at that?
I was surprised.
I mean, I can understand the concern.
When you look, though, at how search party
for dog works, it actually is a completely
built-on privacy.
So what we do is we look for
a dog, we post a dog.
We find it, we say to Jamie, this
dog that's lost in your neighborhood looks like
this dog in front of your camera.
Do you want to contact your neighbor?
If you say no, your privacy is protected.
And you're a whore.
Wait, if you say no, your privacy's protected.
If you say yes, well, privacy's gone, I
guess.
It's lost in your neighborhood, looks like this
dog in front of your camera.
Do you want to contact your neighbor?
If you say no, your privacy's protected.
How does your privacy protected by saying no?
It doesn't make any sense at all.
I think you have to look at it
the other way.
If you say yes, your privacy's not protected.
That's what he's saying.
That's the point here.
Cameron, do you want to contact your neighbor?
If you say no, your privacy is protected.
You're totally fine.
If you say yes, then- What privacy
are we dealing with here?
Let him finish, we'll find out.
If you say no, your privacy is protected.
You're totally fine.
If you say yes, then like I think
most people would want to, you help return
the dog.
And what we've seen in the response is
definitely- This is so American.
We're always, we want liberty, we want privacy,
but if it's about a dog, I don't
care.
It's a dog, ladies and gentlemen, it's a
dog.
I've always said, immigrants, all that stuff, but
the minute you hit the dogs, that's why
Trump won the election.
They're eating the dogs.
People went, no, no, no.
This is the line.
Americans- It's a good call back.
It's the way it is.
There is concern from people that I think
that don't understand how the system works, which
is a shame.
But the people that don't understand, the people
that, I literally got a text from a
friend today who didn't know we were doing
this and said he cried when he watched
it because two years ago his dog was
lost and they never found it.
And they wish they had a system like
this.
So I do think what it's doing is
so important, we're returning over a dog a
day and we're doing it by keeping privacy
and trust because that is very important.
I love dog a day.
Dog a day, there's a show today.
I read off the bat.
Dog a day.
And of course, the only real question we
want to know is, well, if you can
do it with dogs, how about humans?
So I think the question I would ask
as sort of the layman watching this is,
well, if you can do that for a
dog, you could do it for a human
too, right?
And I think that's where people get nervous.
How come you couldn't find Nancy Guthrie's mom?
I don't want to be surveilled by my
neighbors if my neighbors don't like me or
something.
Is there a protection built into the system
to make sure that what you're doing for
dogs doesn't happen for a human?
Yeah, so the number one post in our
neighbors app was lost dogs.
And so we built this for lost dogs.
The system works around dogs.
It does not work for humans.
It wouldn't even work for that.
OK, I'm just going to do it.
Surveillance state.
Come on.
These things are all connected.
They're trolling your camera in real time.
It is being recorded.
The FBI knows.
Everybody knows this.
And we saw this coming down Mountain Main
Street a long time ago.
Yeah, it's no big deal.
Well, I don't know about it not being
a big deal.
It's not a big deal.
And you either put these cameras up or
you don't.
Who cares?
They're mostly a nuisance.
Well, he's got one at the house and
it goes off all the time.
Every time a bird flies by.
Oh, you got to turn on a pet
detection.
Deer comes up and bumps it.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
Yeah, it's just it's just like, well, before
we go deep into the show, I do
have two clips I want to get out
of the way, which I think are the
clips of the of the of the of
the of the era.
Oh, I don't think we have a clip
of the era jingle.
No, we don't.
And we're not going to ever.
All right.
This is to report the same story reported
two different ways.
One a little more accurate, I'd say, than
the other and funnier.
But let's listen to this one.
This is your Texas story.
This is your Texas news where you're gone.
You're missing out.
Oh, gee, what did I miss?
This is the drone BBC.
I did not miss this story.
The punchline will be self-explanatory.
Of course, the Trump administration has blamed a
Mexican cartel drone incursion for the temporary closure
of the airspace over El Paso International Airport
in Texas.
The measure was initially ordered for 10 days
for special security reasons, but was lifted within
hours.
The transportation secretary, Sean Duffy, said swift action
was taken to disable the drone.
Mexico's President Claudia Sheinbaum says authorities are investigating
the incident.
El Paso's mayor slammed the closure, saying it
caused widespread disruption and confusion.
I want to be very, very clear that
this should have never happened.
You cannot restrict airspace over a major city
without coordinating with the city, the airport, the
hospitals, the community leadership.
That failure to communicate is unacceptable.
Yes, yes, I you know, I when I
read the story, I immediately sent a text
message before we found out what it was.
I sent a text text message to my
buddy Maverick, who has who has a plane.
His mom lives in El Paso.
He goes to El Paso all the time.
And I said, I don't know what's going
on.
He said, no, I already told my mom,
start driving.
Get out of El Paso.
The cartels are coming.
Oh, brother.
Well, that's what we all thought here.
Well, here is the the.
I don't know if this came before or
after the BBC report, which makes it sound
pretty, pretty impressive.
But here is the NPR report, which is
probably a little more accurate.
The Trump administration says a U.S. military
laser shot down what it said was a
drug cartel drone near El Paso on the
U.S.-Mexico border.
However, it now appears the target may have
actually been a party balloon.
NPR's Greg Myrie has the details.
Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said the military and
the Federal Aviation Administration, quote, acted swiftly to
address a cartel drone incursion.
The threat has been neutralized.
The FAA also announced the highly unusual step
of closing El Paso's airspace for 10 days,
then lifted the ban several hours later.
However, a U.S. official familiar with the
matter, but not authorized to speak publicly, gave
NPR's Tom Bowman a different account.
The source said the Pentagon recently authorized Customs
and Border Protection to use the high energy
laser.
The agency then shot down a suspected drone.
But it now appears the object was a
Mylar party balloon that posed no threat.
The drone again.
Yeah, this, by the way, is not confirmed
that it was a party balloon, but the
storm come on, it was.
I'm sure I'm sure you fire up a
big laser that must have cost like about
probably a grand to get to get up
to power and pops pops a balloon.
Now, I'm reminded of the fact that I
used to send up garbage bags, of course,
always have a helium tank around the house
and occasionally you just if there was an
event or something at the house, I'd always
I'd say you want to say kids, you
want to see something funny.
And so you fill up a big, big,
you know, 35 gallon garbage bag with helium
and you put a little tag at the
bottom, which will keep it nice and balanced.
And you just push it off the front
porch and it really just doesn't go very
high.
It just kind of just wanders into this
garbage bag floating over the San Francisco Bay
and you can just watch it for about
an hour as it goes over.
I just find it to be funny.
Back in the day, we didn't have TikTok,
we didn't have Instagram, we had garbage bags
with helium.
But these these Mylar balloons, which are you,
I think you can pick them up on
radar.
I think it's possible that this, you know,
is just picked up on radar and they
made all these assumptions.
That's the way I see it.
Well, on the other hand, we are touting
that we have lasers that can shoot drones
out of the sky.
That's kind of good PR.
There are a lot of drone incursions on
the border, apparently.
I was just looking at the the pilot
forums and this this does happen quite a
bit.
But the the whole thing is it's what
we do, man.
Hey, you got to.
We got directed energy, energy weapons over here.
Party kids will take care of you.
I mean, the whole thing may have been
a publicity stunt just to promote the laser.
That was what that was my thought.
I'm like, well, you know, that's kind of
something.
Just so you know, when you're flying your
drones with drugs over, we do have lasers.
I wonder what happens if you if you
laser a drone with fentanyl.
That may not be a good thing.
What would what would go why?
Because maybe the fentanyl just explodes and then
wafts down over everybody.
So fentanyl doesn't explode.
No, no, but I don't think there could
be vaporized.
I don't know.
I'm just asking questions.
You know, like all podcasters, I'm just asking
questions.
Likely, I'm just asking questions.
Well, no, I'd like to know.
I'd like to see some of the results
of some of these.
I'd like to see some evidence that there's
these lasers do much more than just disable
the thing.
That's what I'm guessing.
It just disables and comes crashing down.
I don't think it vaporizes the drone.
What I was the hole in the balloon.
Big deal.
I was reading that it's a 20 or
20 kilowatt laser.
Which seems like a lot.
You know, the little laser pens people are
shooting at planes, I think, are a watt,
maybe.
Imagine 20 kilowatts.
I think that could do some damage if
it's true, if it's true.
We don't know.
As usual, we needed we have we have
we do know.
Yeah, we have a collective.
Yes, we do have people who know, but
they may.
This is my guy here.
He's the guy that's in all that.
I got to talk to the last guy
you talked to.
Apparently, one of the fleece El Paso with
his family because they were afraid of the
incursions of the cartels coming to get everybody.
No, but the the guy from the Department
of War who's in the who's in the
modern warfare department, he would know.
I'll ask him.
I'll shoot.
Well, you know, he can't tell me much,
but I can say blink your eyes.
Well, I had to guide you to some
information that is useful.
I will.
I'm actually mad.
I didn't think of that earlier.
One of our producers suggests that Nancy Guthrie
was killed by a illegal and the whole
thing is a cover up.
Ooh, because because he has an exact example
of what happened.
It just happened in University of Colorado, I
think, Boulder campus.
He says this happened.
Some student was killed by an illegal and
they covered everything.
He covered it up because they don't need
any more Trump and Lake and Riley, you
know, tributes.
They don't need it, especially with a network
TV stars.
So hold on a second.
That would kind of explain this bull crap
ring slash Ness slash whatever camera story where
you have this guy with a backpack and
the and the the throwaway gloves.
And he's and he's just, you know, a
ring doorbell.
You can rip that off.
It's not hard.
You can kick it and it's done.
But no, he's going back.
He's kicking around with a leash.
That could that could be the hoax right
there.
That came out late.
Yeah, that could be the cover up.
Yeah, it makes sense to me.
I did get a note from one of
our producers on Thursday show.
Could you and or John address two things?
One, what is, quote, residual data from back
end systems?
That would be bull crap, is what I
would say, because that's what they're saying.
Oh, we we got video was residual and
we have all these tech people residuals data
for saying, yeah, it sounds like a Silicon
Valley bullcrap phrase.
I mean, I'm sure I'm sure that if
you delete something, yes, it's still recoverable from
a drive.
Yeah, you can do that.
Yes.
And two, how can random folks monitor activity
in a Bitcoin wallet?
Well, I will answer that.
If if you have the Bitcoin wallet where
it's being sent to, then you can monitor
that wallet to see if anything came in.
That's that's the whole point of the open
blockchain.
And then you can follow it to see
if it goes somewhere and ultimately winds up
in an exchange.
Then you can jump in as law enforcement,
unless, of course, you use a mixer and
a mixer can then mix it all up
or you could put it on.
There's ways you could get around it.
But that's the whole point of Bitcoin.
It's it's transparent.
I got a very short clip here.
Which explains the term that we have been
trying to eradicate from our brains.
This was a surprising clip that I got
this morning.
The term and this does not count, by
the way.
No, this doesn't count.
It doesn't count.
Do you even know where that comes from,
by the way?
Yeah, I did a whole thing about it's
about by it goes back to 900, actually.
But it means by the side of it
means by the road.
And it was used, it was used.
I don't have the sheet in front of
me now because it's been a while, but
it was used as directional.
Well, according to Maya Angelou.
From her book, here we go.
This is why I like it from her
book.
I know why the caged bird sings.
This is an excerpt from her audio book.
But later in the evening, I found that
my violation lay in using the phrase, by
the way.
Mama explained that Jesus was the way, the
truth and the light.
And anyone who says, by the way, is
really saying by Jesus or by God.
And the Lord's name would not be taken
in vain in her house.
When Bailey tried to interpret the words with
white folks used, by the way, to mean
while we're on the subject.
Mama reminded us that white folks mouths were
most in general loose and their words were
an abomination before Christ.
So you, white man.
Are an abomination of shit.
There's no documentation for this whatsoever.
I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
Yeah, you look it up.
The etymology.
I'm sure I'll look it up on a
I will tell me exactly what it is.
Exactly.
Man, there's so much.
So the Super Bowl, I did not watch
very much of the Super Bowl.
I don't know.
Why would you?
Yeah, I was doing other things on Sunday.
Well, now that but why would you, you
know, a football guy?
That's the only football game I watch is
the Super Bowl.
Well, you can watch the highlights.
OK, it was by the way, you didn't
miss anything.
It was one of the boringest Super Bowl
games.
You just said, by the way.
Oh, my God.
Yes.
By his way, the way, the light, the
light.
That's what I'm talking about.
I'm by Jesus's way.
You didn't miss anything.
The game stunk.
Yeah, it was boring.
It got kind of interesting after the after
the show that the that the Seattle team
played dirty and knocked some guy blows out
of bounds.
It was a kind of a dirty play
by one of the Seattle players.
And then all of a sudden, the other
team scored the Patriots scored.
And then it might well, maybe they can
win.
This would be great because they could do
a comeback.
It'd be funny now.
Now they just crapped out in the team.
You know, it was boring.
And the commercials were not great.
No.
I mean, there was a there was some
of them were gruesome.
There was a talking gobs of hair, which
I thought was disgusting.
There's a bunch of headless people in one
commercial where their heads were chopped off.
Who needs that aggravation?
And it was just it was the whole
thing.
And then they had Green Day, you know,
come out first.
They bring it.
This is the classic.
They bring out all this.
They got a bunch of all stars, a
lot of 49ers.
Joe Montana, Steve Young.
They brought him out, put him on the
stage.
Well, well, well, Green Day sang American Idiot,
which I thought was the most insulting thing
you could do.
Pretty much.
And nobody caught picked up on that obviosity.
And it was just annoying.
I just found the whole thing to be
these this spectacle is is is laughable.
Just looking at at the overall picture of
this.
And it was all in Spanish and.
Oh, and the Spanish bad bunny thing that
poop that got a lot of attention.
To me, to me, that was all about
the midterms.
It seems very apparent right now that we
have.
That we I think we clearly have the.
Democrat Party and their operatives working very hard
on.
You know, getting they failed with the black
vote.
That was what BLM was all about.
And and they said, OK, black America vote
for us.
They didn't get as many as they wanted
because Trump got a lot.
And then you notice that out of the
protests everywhere in the streets, there's pretty much
no black people.
None.
I haven't seen one.
Exactly.
So.
You know, I kind of started to figure
this, tie this all together.
I thought I had a but I had
a clip.
Let me see if I have this here
somewhere.
Somehow I'm missing missing something here.
I wonder what happened to all my clips.
I'm on Linux, by the way.
So that would that should not should not
surprise you.
But the all of this.
Is a strategy, you know, the because how
many cities are really going nuts protesting is
Minneapolis.
We had Los Angeles for a little bit.
It's all paid for.
We know it's the same, you know, poor,
poor people.
In Portland.
And there's a little bit in Chicago, but
it's all paid for by the same entities
that go into the same, the exact same
people, the Black Lives Matter activists.
Now they're out there for it.
But and you see all this horrible, you
know, just people getting beat up.
What you actually don't see much of is
immigrants, illegal immigrants.
You don't you always hear about, well, they
drag this person out of the car and
they did this and they did that.
And what you really only see is protesters,
American citizen protesters who are getting rousted, getting
shot.
And that's the shock value of it.
But we're not the idea.
Yeah, that is the idea.
And from what I understand, you know, with
that recent election in in Texas, which went
to a Democrat.
They consider that to be the reason to
be that the Mexican-American, the Latin-American
vote is pulling away from Trump because they
don't like what they see.
And I think that that seems to me
to be the entire strategy behind all of
this is let's because what do we have?
We have 30 percent of America is Latinx,
would you say?
I don't know.
I think it is.
I think it's up there.
So it seems like that's the plan.
I mean, everything is about the midterms.
Well, everything's about the midterms, and that probably
is the plan.
And that's what you do.
And they're doing it, you know, no matter
what anyone likes to think.
And they shake their fist at it.
They're doing an excellent job.
I think Schumer's behind a lot of it,
even though some of the cornball stuff is
behind all that stuff, too.
But I think they're doing an excellent job
of swinging the voters toward the Democrats for
the because they know there's two factors here.
One, the Republicans don't come out to vote.
The Republicans that that little area in Texas
was when 30 30 points over for Trump.
Yes, yes.
It's a Trump district.
Yes.
But why didn't you know what it went
to this Democrat doofus?
Because the Republicans never come out.
Oh, whatever.
Who cares?
And the Republicans are basically lazy.
There is terrible party for this.
They don't they can't get jacked up about
anything and unless all hell's breaking loose and
then they'll come out.
And so they you know, so they're just
pushing.
They're going to I think that the unless
something changes or they pull a great stunt,
I mean, Trump has it in them to
do it.
The Republicans are going to get wiped out
in the in the midterms.
Here's this is from.
I forget which podcast this is.
This is a guy from the Brennan Center.
Isn't the Brennan is that literally John Brennan
heard of the Brennan Center?
Yeah.
The Brennan Center has been around.
Let me see.
Yeah.
Brennan's I think that I think that was
something set up by John Brennan.
If I'm not mistaken, Brennan Center for Justice.
Yes.
Nonprofit based in New York that works to
defend democracy.
Well, you know, Brennan, the CIA guy.
Let me see what the Wikipedia says.
If it's a no, William J.
Brennan, no different guy.
Oh, former Supreme Court Justice Brennan, who I
do not remember.
It's it's basically another Democrat, another money laundering
operation, another money laundering operation.
So they have this guy on on this
podcast, Mike Walden from the Brennan Center.
And this was in December before everything really
kicked off in Minneapolis.
On January 31st, a special election for this
is from Promethean Action.
I know I should not be playing these
clips, but this was actually quite good.
On January 31st, a special election for a
Texas state Senate seat turned into a warning
shot.
A district that Donald Trump carried by 17
points in twenty twenty four saw the Republican
candidate lose in what should have been an
absolutely safe race.
Now, let's go back to that interview with
the Brennan Center's Mike Waldman and look at
when it was recorded.
It was recorded back on December 10th.
And here's what Walden said then about how
Democrats could flip back voters who had voted
for Trump in twenty twenty four.
And in Texas in particular, for example, what
they aim to do is move some more
Democratic voters out of Democratic districts, in fact,
to try to flip some of the Southern
texts that have been, to many people surprised,
moving toward the Republicans, even though they're heavily
Hispanic.
That kind of assumed that in that community
would stay the same as they were in
twenty twenty four when Donald Trump won a
very substantial share of the Latino vote all
over the country.
The ICE raids, the brutality and all these
other things we've seen seem to pushing that
community back toward, in a sense, more traditional
partisan landing spot in the Democratic Party.
There you go.
That's the whole strategy.
The whole strategy.
Make it look horrible.
Make it look bad.
People die and they don't care.
They don't care if white people die.
They don't.
This is completely about.
No, they do care.
They want more white people to die.
Well, there's that.
And they do care.
And then there was the outrage.
And where was I?
It was I think it was Friday, Friday
or Saturday.
And people go, oh, man, did you see
the meme?
Did you see the meme?
Like what meme you talk about?
Oh, you haven't seen the Lion King meme.
What are you talking about?
No, I have not seen the meme.
And and well, I'm going to you're going
to see it.
This is the the outrage started right away
about the meme.
You've likely seen the blowback from a racist
video reposted by the president of the United
States overnight.
President Donald Trump on Truth Social posted the
Obamas as apes.
Now, the image appears at the end of
a one minute video where Trump once again
promotes false claims.
The 2020 presidential election was.
So listen to what he says.
Promotes false claim.
Back it up a little bit.
One minute video where Trump once again promotes
false claims.
OK, so he's saying that this video, Trump
once again promoting false claims.
One minute video where Trump once again promotes
false claims.
The 2020 presidential election was rigged.
It was just a two second clip that
shows the Obama's heads edited onto the bodies
of primates to the song The Lion Sleeps
Tonight.
Now we show you this image that's now
been taken down by the White House and
by President Trump so that you can see
what had so many people up in arms.
So for context, here it is.
This post has since been deleted.
OK, so, you know, CBS outrage.
I go looking around for some more.
Here's the other one.
And listen to what they say about the
video was about.
I am, by the way, the least racist
president you've had in a long time.
President Trump's controversial late night video post on
Thursday was about alleged voter fraud and just
over was about alleged voter fraud.
A minute long.
I like the beginning.
I saw it and just passed it on.
And I guess probably nobody reviewed the end
of it, because what I saw at the
beginning was really, really strong.
But the end of the video showed a
depiction of the Obamas as apes.
Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt initially defended the post
and called it an Internet meme about the
Lion King, adding stop the fake outrage.
The political fallout was swift, with some members
of the president's own party calling on him
to take down the post and apologize.
But the president says he didn't do anything
wrong.
We took it down as soon as we
found out.
I didn't make a mistake.
Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina, the lone
black Republican in the U.S. Senate, posted
this, praying it was fake because it's the
most racist thing I've seen out of this
White House.
The president should remove it.
CBS News has learned the president personally called
Senator Scott and said the video was a
staffer's mistake.
The post was deleted after the president's call
with Senator Scott.
I think that it was an acknowledgement that
this was definitely an error.
I just don't believe a lower level staffer
actually did it.
Republican political.
So I do believe Abdul Donald Trump has
to have a serious reset or he's going
to risk not just what happens in the
midterm.
Donald Trump is going to risk his legacy
if he does not change course.
So that's a black Republican strategist.
Now, obviously, we have to go at the
end.
That guy at the end was who is
that guy did that sound like?
What's his name?
The the the Brooks and Capehart guy, Capehart.
I don't think I don't think that was
Capehart.
No, it wasn't Capehart.
No, no, just like him.
No, I did the clip myself.
So obviously, I'm like, all right, here's what
I think happened.
A video a video was posted.
They screen recorded it probably on TikTok or
whatever.
And then it scrolled up and then you
got the that little bit of the Obamas,
whether that is what was intentional or not
is a secondary fact.
But I'm like, well, what is the video
that he posted?
And so I go look and can't find
it.
Can't find it.
I go on Gemini.
I say Gemini.
This video was Gemini.
This video was taken down.
Go find it.
It's probably on YouTube somewhere.
It spends 15 minutes after disconnecting.
No, can't find it.
It was taken down, does not exist.
It's not available.
OK, so obviously, when this video came out,
whatever it was, apparently false claims by the
president about the election.
We had to immediately jump on this and
beat and the distraction be the two seconds
of the Obamas and as apes, which is
part of a longer video where all of
these all these Congress critters and elites are
all, you know, I saw this video, which
won the Lion King video.
Yeah.
It had nothing to do with election fraud.
No, it was just a rando video on
a stupid video.
And at the end wasn't the Obamas at
the end.
It was Trump at the end, walking through
with a lion on a lot.
His head positioned on the lion.
And he walks through to the toward the
screen at the end.
That's how it ended.
This is exactly what all the Republican podcasters
are saying is it wasn't racist at all.
So I didn't say that.
I didn't say it wasn't racist.
I said that to what their description of
it is wrong.
Correct.
But that's not what the video was.
So I finally got a copy of the
video that was the minute before the two
seconds.
And that was, I would say, something that
needed to be covered up by outrage about
the racist video.
Investigation team obtained forensic access to a DS
200 tabulator, the machine that counts the votes.
A talent 4G wireless chip manufactured in Taiwan
was discovered embedded into the motherboard.
The voting machine tapes clearly indicate modem engagement
and transmission of election data.
Some of the anomalies that we noticed in
the 2020 general elections, that five key states
all stopped counting at a certain time in
these key battleground states.
These were all where the software, the mini
machines, the SNS machines were used, the smartmatic,
the gems software.
So when the vote stopped counting, and this
has been noted in other countries as well,
President Trump was significantly ahead when reporting and
counting resumed.
There was a massive spike occurred that that
favored Joe Biden.
That's the whole video of that little bit
at the end.
So it's forensic.
It's a forensic investigation showing how the the
smartmatic software and the Dominion voting machine stopped
counting all in five key districts all at
the same time.
And then after they started recounting, then Biden
just spiked above Trump.
That was interesting.
Yes, that was that has been that little
that information was floating around because the the
people that make the machines said they couldn't
be accessed through the Internet and you couldn't
have anything overseas.
And it had a G4 modem chip on
it.
Yeah.
So, of course, we had.
And so now the question is, was that
an intentional two second at the end?
Was it really a mistake?
Was it sabotage?
Because for sure, none of the none of
the news outlets actually discussed it all.
They said, oh, that was just Trump.
Trump, you know, claiming that the election was
stolen.
No, it was forensic evidence.
There was a lot more interesting than Trump
claiming the elections weren't stolen.
So this is either the botch of the
century, which I think it was probably or.
Someone within the White House, whoever is responsible
for posting that sabotaged it.
And I think that that's very reasonable.
Yeah, I think it's super reasonable.
Yeah, I think that's probably what happened.
And if I remember, I thought on Friday,
the president was talking about something big coming,
something big coming.
And this might have been the beginning of
something big.
And remember, they still have Maduro.
Well, they also had they had really they
released the documents about the Fulton County thing.
I thought I had a clip, but I
guess I don't.
They released the the warrant, the details.
And it has to do with some I
guess I really think some whistleblower came up
and said, hey, go.
You guys have been looking at this and
looking at that, but you're not looking in
the right place for the right thing.
Look at this.
And or maybe Maduro.
And Maduro could have some.
Yeah, I'm not I'm not.
We can't give up on Maduro being part
of this.
No, I'm not giving up on him at
all.
So but I mean, what a botch.
What an incredible botch, because they just get
to dismiss it.
And Google, for all I can tell, just
wiped it.
No residual data on their hard drives for
that video.
Gemini, and then I went to Grok.
Grok, find this for me.
It's been deleted.
The post the president took it down.
I can't find it.
You have to look around on X.
Maybe you can find it.
Huh?
Yeah, it should be able to find it.
Well, I did eventually.
There's a big shot.
Oh, the big shot.
I can't do this.
No, it's going to do all these things
for you, but it can't find a video.
Give me a break.
There's a good plan using, you know, I've
been using you can use a you know,
in the olden days, a little sidebar.
In the olden days, you could use Google
to get people's email addresses.
Yeah, yeah.
I kind of remember that.
Yeah, you could.
All you had to do is if you
knew the last thing, you could pretty much
work it around by doing the if you
knew what the domain was at something or
other, you can get their email address.
And then they stopped doing that.
They because all around on our privacy.
And so.
Oh, no privacy.
Oh, what about privacy?
You can't give somebody an email address out.
So so I've been noticing you can get
email addresses with the AI systems.
Grok can give you can find them.
And so can perplexity and anthropic.
They can all find email addresses sometimes sometimes
because I've noticed that you have to ask
if this is a tip for people looking
for people's email addresses.
You have to you have to specifically ask
for his public email address, which is the
email address.
So you ask for the email address.
But if you don't do it, couch it
right.
I know perplexity came back with.
They gave me the email address and I
asked again for something else.
Is it you can't even come close to
doing this because it's a privacy concern?
I think what is this thing?
What are these things doing?
I mean, they have all these these crazy
rules and regulations out of the blue.
They have, you know, I guess there's guardrails
that are coded in.
But it's like it's it's rando.
But you can use you can find people's
email addresses, it seems to me.
Well, I'm asking it now to find Adam
Curry's public email address.
So we'll see if it pops up.
There was an interesting post that this guy
wrote that's been going around.
If you got it from Matt Schumer, Matt
Schumer is apparently I guess he has an
AI company and he sold that.
And he has a couple of his investments
in AI companies.
And he wrote this this essay called Something
Big is Happening.
Oh, look, Adam Curry's primary public email address,
which he frequently mentions on the no agenda
podcast for listener feedback and producer communication is
Adam Curry dot com.
For increase specifically related to merchandise or the
no agenda shop.
Email is shop at no agenda shop dot
com.
Well, that's nice.
They're promoting our merch.
Didn't ask for it, but it's promoting the
merch.
And what this guy says, and I think
this is probably true, that all of the
AI companies have focused their model training on
coding.
And I would have to say that that
appears to be true because this whole system
that I built within a day or two
and fixed the bug that we had on
the last show, I just built it by
telling it what I wanted it to do
and it did it.
You have to know something about systems for
sure.
Otherwise, you probably won't be very successful.
But the coding part, I think there's something
there.
I mean, it it's not.
I mean, it's too expensive for them to
run it.
But man, it it does some really cool
thing.
Yeah, everybody thinks so.
Yeah.
I had this.
What is this from?
You know, but then again, then again, so
what?
That serves a small percentage of the community.
What is the percentage of people that care
to code?
You know, well, dare to code, care to
code.
It's not that many.
Well, no.
It couldn't find the video for you, but
it could code some some, you know, Linux
programs for your Linux.
So just just stay with me.
I'm I'm a little more cautious about A
.I. is no good now because you definitely
can create if you know what you're doing
and what you really want and you understand
systems.
You have to understand systems.
People have no idea how computers work.
They don't understand systems.
But if you understand the basics of systems,
then you can create something that could enhance
your own productivity.
You can create a service.
I mean, it's not like I don't think
you're going to create a company overnight like,
oh, look at this.
This widget I made and I can charge
money for this.
Probably not.
But when it comes to productivity, it's already
done things for this show.
Oh, tons.
In fact, I wanted to compliment Darren O
'Neill for doing the art for my last
substack column on talks of toxoplasmosis and the
you know, the crazy liberal women.
And so I asked Darren to do some
art.
And he comes back with 18 stunning pieces.
But beside art, John, we know why.
Yeah, but it's an example.
This is similar to coding.
I mean, it's good at it.
Yes, it's good at it.
But you have to be good as the
guy telling you what to do because it's
not everybody that can do that.
Well, again, you have to understand what the
ultimate outcome is going to be.
And Darren understands us, understands what we like,
understands the show, understands the dynamics of album
art, which is not something you hang on
the wall.
You can't blow it up.
And then, oh, look at all these little
details.
He gets that.
But but that's that's kind of my point,
I think.
Well, actually, it came because there was this
clip about UC Berkeley or the University of
California system is seeing a drop in computer
science enrollment.
Listen to this.
It was once a degree to some of
the highest paying jobs in the world.
But now the University of California is seeing
a drop in enrollment for computer science.
That's going to bring in our business and
tech reporter Scott Budman.
Scott, I saw that this hasn't happened since
the dot com bust.
So is this a bad sign for tech?
You know, it really could be.
But things are a little bit different than
they were back in ninety nine and two
thousand.
And Audrey, as you can imagine, when all
those stocks fell and the companies went out
of business, it was really tough for a
young person to say, you know what I
want to do right now is get a
job in tech and get a job in
computer science.
Since then, though, as tech has gone up,
a lot of the people have said, hey,
CS is a great way to get in
there.
I'm going to learn to code.
I'm going to get an entry level job.
And it's only in the last couple of
years we've seen those jobs decline.
Why?
Well, of course, artificial intelligence.
A lot of students coming out of school
with that coveted computer science degree only to
find out that either the internship or the
entry level job is being done by a
bot, and that is discouraging a lot of
people.
And so for the first time in quite
some time, all but one UC campus will
get to that in a minute, has seen
a decline in computer science degrees and majors.
Students are just wary of and parents, frankly,
spending all that time and money and effort
to come out and find out that your
job, at least your entry level job, is
being done by a machine.
Yeah, well, so I don't I don't know
what they're teaching in computer science anymore, but
I would say if you have a kid
and you want this kid to be successful
and be able to utilize what now seems
to be the main outside creating art and
and writing your resume, which anyone still I
have not seen a I do anything really
spectacular with creative writing or just I just
yeah, just not yet.
It could come, you know, give your kid
the old laptop, any computer you've got, tell
them to install Linux and use an A
.I. chat thing to help them install it
so they'll understand, customize it.
And then once you understand a system, which
I doubt is being taught in computer science
anymore, you know, like it was supposed to
be taught in high school.
Oh, please.
They're just they're just showing you how to
use the mouse.
I don't I mean, prove me wrong, educators.
It's not like we understand.
You took apart you took apart a whole
IBM PC live on TV.
Big deal.
No, but you understand the controllers.
The do people even understand the hard disk
anymore?
To this, there used to be one of
our one of our some one of the
talent at talent at Mevio, who we both
know well of famous, some semi-famous guy.
I was over at his house and he
was having some issues with his computer.
And I'm, you know, like a fixer.
And so I say, well, let's we got
to.
OK, well, first thing we got to pull
out this memory.
The RAM he had to he had to
he said, and he said, you know, I've
never seen a guy get so nervous.
You're pulling something out.
I'm pulling the RAM out of his machine.
And it's like, am I going to lose
it?
No, am I going to lose anything?
Am I all my day?
Is everything going to be it's the RAM.
He doesn't know what it is.
And I had tried to explain it to
him.
What is the random access memory?
It's just it doesn't do anything when the
machine's off.
It's just it's just it's nothing.
You're removing my memory, my files.
They're gone.
But there's nothing there.
This is my point.
We have iPhones or smartphones in particular have
obfuscated storage.
People only know storage is how many pictures
can I put on it?
They're not thinking about anything else.
How many?
And it's sold that way.
Well, you want the 256 gigabytes.
You can put lots of pictures on it
and lots of songs.
But they don't understand storage or just all
these these very basic.
No, they don't know that.
It's unbelievable.
They don't know the difference between random access
memory and and and storage memory.
So there, I think outside of becoming of
getting a vocation, plumber, electrician, et cetera, et
cetera, et cetera.
If you really want to be in knowledge
work and being able, I think there's there's
there will be a huge opportunity for people
who understand a system to be able to
create custom systems for any workplace.
Including a podcast, that that's kind of the
point I'm making is that this stuff can
be used for great benefit for productivity if
you at least understand how systems work and
you really can describe what you want to
get out of the other end.
Now, according to the CEO of Microsoft, I
know you're all dead.
You talk about superintelligence.
Most of your rivals talk about HCI, artificial
general intelligence.
Explain the difference between HCI and superintelligence.
I prefer the definition that focuses first on
what would it take to build a system
that could achieve most of the tasks that
a regular professional in a workplace goes about
on a daily basis.
Think of it as a professional grade AGI.
How close are we?
I think that we're going to have a
human level performance on most, if not all
professional tasks.
So white collar work where you're sitting down
at a computer, either being a lawyer or
an accountant or a project manager or a
marketing person.
Most of those tasks will be fully automated
by an AI within the next 12 to
18 months.
And we can see this in software engineering.
Many software engineers report that they are now
using AI assisted coding for the vast majority
of their code production, which means that their
roles shifted now to this meta function of
debugging, scrutinizing, of doing the strategic stuff like
architecting of, you know, et cetera, et cetera,
putting things into production.
So it's a quite different relationship to the
technology.
And that's happened in the last six months.
And I'm going to presume that if you're
if you have a law firm and you're
uploading, you're putting contracts in and saying, summarize
this, I'm going to presume that you are
actually helping to add data to train these
models on the next go around.
Well, the models aren't doing it themselves.
This is the thing that's overlooked here.
Yeah.
OK, everyone's using the AI to do coding.
You you included.
But it's not like it's doing it on
its own without you having anything to do
with this.
You have to you're telling it what to
do and you know what should come out.
All it's doing is increasing your productivity.
It's not eliminating you.
You haven't been eliminated.
No, we're you're you're still stuck there.
Listen, I'm trying to eliminate myself here.
You can't it can't be done.
Well, but it's the same thing with AGI.
They're talking about, oh, this and that's going
to replay.
No, it's not.
It's going to increase productivity.
There's no doubt about that.
I mean, that's I mean, when Darren sent
me the 18 pieces, if he had done
done those by hand, it would have taken
a year.
Well, this is this is an interesting example
because one Darren has eliminated 300 other prompters
who just can't cut it and every single
original artist.
So, yeah, it's enhanced Darren's productivity, but you
can't deny that other people have been obviously
just they are eliminated, they're gone, they're dead.
Jim, even Nick, the rat who's who did
so much of our art, he was the
leaderboard leader.
Still is he.
But he can't get something in and compete.
He can't compete.
So that's that's my point.
But this is like a carpenter that, you
know, when the first hammer was invented.
I mean, come on.
The guy with the hammer is the guy
who's going to get all the work.
It's just the same thing.
It's like, yeah, this is true.
It's it does.
People who learn to use the new tool
will do better than people that have failed
to move to.
It's like when Photoshop first showed up.
I mean, the artists that use Photoshop could
be more productive because they could work with
the art directors and say, I, you know,
I like your art, but I think if
the background was blue.
Oh, God, I do the whole piece over
again or no.
With Photoshop, you touch this and that.
The whole background is blue all of a
sudden, just instantly.
Yeah.
And so that you if you're going to
ignore the tools.
Yeah, you're going to be out of a
job.
Or or or if you just can't get
into the tool.
Yeah, well, this is a this is a
IQ issue.
You're too dumb for a dumb for a
I mean, or you don't want to or
you or you're stuck in the mud or
you're one of the or you're, you know,
just one of these people that just sucks.
Kind of which, you know, it sounds like
I should be that way, but I'm not.
No, but I'm I think I'm I'm crawling
back a little bit.
I see great advantage in this.
I still think it will have to be
decentralized.
And and people use open source models and
different scenarios.
I just I don't see how the scaling,
the hyperscalers, how they can make the money
part work because they have they can't.
They can't.
Yeah, they have to satisfy everybody's reality.
This is not going to work.
Well, it will work on a decentralized at
home or in a group basis.
Open.
Yeah, I mean, it works as a tool.
Then people are taking advantage of it.
But in terms of a of a it's
hard to say.
There's got to be an analogy for this.
Something like this has taken place before where
you have some more.
An analog, not an analogy.
Well, OK, how about this?
Metro Metropolitan Fiber Systems.
This is, I think, a good analog.
We had the dotcom boom.
Everyone's flipping out.
We need lots of bandwidth, bandwidth, bandwidth, need
tons of bandwidth.
They like lay fiber, all dark fiber all
around the country.
And they go broke.
Yeah, they did.
And the fiber is still there.
There's fiber all over the country.
But it got picked up.
It got picked up by other people.
But look at this scrounger at scrounger prices.
Yes.
So data centers with, you know, with big
machines everywhere.
I'm thinking 18 months down the road, Mr.
A.I., Microsoft A.I. CEO, I'm going
to go hang out at some data centers
and pick me up some NVIDIA cards, bring
them home, and it'll be pretty cool.
That's what I see happening.
Of course, though, that's actually not a bad
scenario, I think that that as a predictive.
I think you're on to something.
Well, I'm going to I just haven't had
time, but I'm going to load up that
Quinn three dash TTS model, which is for
everything I can tell from the demos, better
than 11 labs at sampling my own voice.
Saying that, you know, I'm going to get
it done.
Well, that's a perfect example.
Eleven labs is the one I actually spend
money on.
And it's and it's not cheap.
Before, you know, burning tokens, burning tokens, tokens.
That's another good one.
This is like the magic money.
This is like a stripper operation.
It's like a topless bar where you go
and tokens.
You get tokens for the girls or fake
money.
Tokens are stripper money.
Yes.
And I love Apple, who I think they're
stupid over there.
They still want to incorporate A.I. and
make it make Siri helpful.
Then, you know, they just came out with
an announcement.
Oh, well, we know it's been two years
now.
They've been saying, oh, we're going to put
it in the next release, the next release,
the next release.
And I read this report from Bloomberg.
The company is now working to spread the
new capabilities out over future versions, possibly postponing
at least some features until at least iOS
26.5 or iOS 27, whenever those are
due.
I mean, here's the line.
Testing has uncovered problems with the software, including
issues with Siri, properly processing queries, taking too
long to handle requests and accuracy issues, accuracy
issues.
Well, yeah, that's A.I. That's what A
.I. is.
Takes too long.
Sometimes has inaccuracy issues.
Are they going to try and make this
thing perfect?
I think that's nuts if they think that's
going to happen.
I think that's exactly what they're doing.
I think it's a mistake.
So, anyway, I'm a little more bullish on
billable hours type jobs, you know, like paralegals.
I'll talk to Rob about it, the constitutional
lawyer.
It seems to me that once just like,
see, the beauty about code is if you
make a mistake in code, the code doesn't
run.
That's the beauty of it.
Syntax is everything.
So that's a very defined language skill.
That these models have when it comes to
legality.
And I don't know, I think you can
do certain contracts and stuff.
It seems like that would be possible to
do.
You don't think so?
Contracts are all boilerplate, so it shouldn't be
that hard.
Yeah, right.
So but that will reduce someone's job somewhere.
I think that's what they're saying.
Entry level, white collar jobs.
I am so happy I'm a podcaster right
now.
Can you imagine?
Yeah, I can imagine.
Yeah, I'm very happy.
Anyway, NPR jumps on the bandwagon and they're
still talking about the the obvious problem of
people using their chatbot for emotional support.
In the US, 90 percent of schools say
they're concerned about the mental health effects of
students online lives.
Nearly half report daily incidents of digital harm
and over 60 percent say students are turning
to chatbots for emotional support, often before reaching
out to a person.
That's according to new data from LineWise, a
company that tracks student mental health.
Harrison Parker is the vice president of that
group.
They are becoming AI imaginary friend for these
kids.
And what started out as curiosity for them
is really increased or changed into something far
more concerning.
In the UK, that number jumps to 70
percent.
And in Australia, nearly three in four schools
say tech is moving faster than their ability
to respond.
Windsor Johnston, NPR News.
So here's that even mean, how's it moving?
Where's it going?
Down the tube, it's moving faster than they
can respond.
What is that?
It's stupid.
What does it mean?
I don't know.
It's NPR.
What does NPR even mean anymore?
So according to CNBC, AI companies, Anthropic and
Meta, this will irk you, are hiring social
media creators to post sponsored content on apps
like Facebook, Instagram, YouTube and LinkedIn and paying
said creators between $400,000 and $600,000
for long term partnerships spanning several months.
I love AI.
Don't you, John?
Wow.
Don't you love AI?
Don't you think Anthropic is great?
Come on, come on.
Yeah, yeah.
This reminds me of the Super Bowl commercials
going back to that earlier thing where they
had these Anthropic and I guess Chet, the
Chet Open AI commercials that were battling it.
They were Coke and Pepsi.
OK, hold on.
We're better than you are.
No, you suck.
Hold on.
Super Bowl commercials.
The last time we had like a category
in Super Bowl, we had crypto, we had
FTX and we had crypto.com and what
happened?
Blow up.
Yeah, it all crept out.
Before that, Super Bowl, pets.com, groceries.com.
What happened after that?
Yeah, it crept out.
So this would, you'd think, forespell.
Forespell?
Forespell.
That's a Dutchism.
I can't believe I said that.
Wow, I never heard of it.
Forespelling is the Dutch.
I don't know what happened.
I was talking to my daughter today.
Might have been that conversation.
What's the word I'm looking for, for forespell?
Well, now you've got forespell stuck in my
head.
Foretell.
I like forespell.
I think it's a cool phrase, word or
whatever it is.
That would mean doom is on the way
for at least some companies.
Doom is obviously on the way.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, we all know this is doom's
on the way.
It's going to take the whole market with
it.
Yeah, the whole economy.
It's going to be a nightmare.
The whole economy.
It's going to happen the way I see
it.
I'm trying to think, you know, they would
like to, the Democrats are doing so, back
to what our theme is for today's show.
The Democrats are doing so well with the
midterms that, you know, what an old trick
is to crash the economy before an election,
and then the president gets blamed.
But you can't take a chance.
Why take a chance?
You don't want to take a chance when
things are going so well, and you already
know you're going to kick ass.
And so what's going to happen is that
they're going to, I think the Democrats will
do their thing and take over the House
and start to want to impeach Trump a
couple more times.
And then there'll be a crash right afterwards.
It'll be blamed on the Democrats, but it
won't make any difference.
Because there's a fear that the Democrats could
get blamed for a crash.
I mean, they can't take a chance.
So we're going to have a good economy
until the midterms.
And then AI is going to bring the
whole thing down.
Well, I like that prediction.
It's a terrible prediction.
I brought something like this up with Horowitz
and he was not happy.
I like it as a prediction.
NPR is already working hard for the Democrat
party and focusing very much on affordability.
And I have a couple of short clips.
And now we are going to turn to
another big issue that voters are clearly thinking
about right now, the economy.
Mara, how are these voters, these are voters
who voted for Joe Biden in 2020 and
Donald Trump in 2024, how are they feeling
about the economy right now?
I would say they're feeling pretty bad.
I mean, some of them mentioned some good
things like gas prices going down, but they
talked about groceries and health care and housing
being too expensive.
One woman said the state of the economy
sucks.
Everything is spiraling out of control.
The cost of living, layoffs, businesses are closing.
It was a pretty dire view.
I think they are willing to give Trump
some time to fix it.
There was a big debate about whether it
was his economy, whether he was at fault
or was it still Biden's fault.
But I think that nothing in our focus
group diverged from national polling, which shows that
people are very, very sour on the economy.
So there's the big question.
Was it, is it Trump's economy or Biden's
economy?
So are these, again, these are voters who
voted for Donald Trump in 2024 and they're
feeling more anxious after he's taken office.
Are they blaming him for that?
Well, I think there's been a debate about
how much to blame Trump for this.
Some people said tariffs were raising prices.
Other people said it's Biden's fault.
That certainly is Trump's message.
And these voters are hearing it a lot
based on the news sources that they consume.
But that's going to be the big battle
in the midterms to say whether this is
Trump's economy or Biden's economy.
This is from the NPR Politics podcast.
One more.
One of my takeaways was how much all
these things get conflated.
The economy, immigration, foreign policy kind of adds
up to chaos and anxiety for voters.
Here's one voter named Nancy who explained how
all this makes her feel.
Well, I like a few of his policies
and things he's done.
The issues I have are the big ones
with things like tariffs, you know, financial impact
on our economy, the way he's handling the
whole ICE thing, trying to start wars everywhere,
Venezuela, trying to take over Greenland, everything like
that.
This is a very informed voter.
The whole ICE thing, he's taking over Greenland.
You know, financial impact on our economy, the
way he's handling the whole ICE thing, trying
to start wars everywhere, Venezuela, trying to take
over Greenland.
Starting wars.
What is she consuming?
She's a Republican, I guess?
No, I don't think so.
And everything like that.
It's just so chaotic that all the bad
stuff just kind of eliminates the good.
That's so interesting.
The chaos thing, it feels like the most
predictable part of a Trump presidency.
I mean, we saw this already in four
years of Trump's first term.
Are these voters surprised by that level of
uncertainty?
We didn't ask them if they were surprised.
They just don't like it.
Okay.
I mean, what was that all about?
Who the hell is that?
I don't know if they were surprised.
They just don't like it.
I'm faking gay.
Okay.
I mean, they do seem like voters, though,
who, considering they supported Trump in 2024, would
be receptive to his spin on some of
the economic stuff.
Just because you voted for Trump doesn't mean
you like every single thing about him.
And that's what these voters were telling us.
But I guess I'm just trying to drill
down on why are there no rose-colored
glasses the way that President Trump has been
trying to push.
There are positives that you can find in
the economy right now.
Record stock market.
I feel like Trump keeps trying to push
this.
Right, you can't eat GDP.
This is about prices, not the rate of
inflation.
This is about people's everyday lives.
And even though, yes, the stock market is
good, GDP is good, but they're having to
pay more, as they told us, for housing,
healthcare, groceries.
Yeah, groceries came up a lot.
That was something that people were mentioned over
and over again, is that groceries still remain
too high.
They saw those prices tick up during COVID,
and they really have not seen them meaningfully
go down, for the exception of eggs.
Now, instead of NPR explaining how inflation works,
they just go along and say, well, they
haven't seen prices come down, except for eggs.
Prices, prices coming down.
John C.
Dvorak will explain.
Well, there's not much to explain.
Somebody sent me a note complaining about my
harping.
No, I think it's good harping.
People need to hear it.
Inflation is cumulative.
It doesn't go down.
If you have a 2% inflation rate,
that means things continue to grow at a
percentage, at 2%.
And it gets higher and higher and higher,
and it doesn't back off.
I mean, the egg thing is an anomaly,
because that had to do with the culling
of the chickens, because of bird flu.
It's got nothing to do with anything.
So egg prices shouldn't even be taken into
account.
Energy prices are the only things that will
go up and down a bit.
And it does have an overall effect, because
if it costs less to move stuff around,
then you can sell it for less money.
And so energy prices are the only thing
that you can expect to come down and
maybe have some minor influence.
But when it comes to the basic price
of groceries, whatever you're paying today is what
you're going to be paying, generally speaking.
It's not going to start deflating, because if
you have a deflation economy, which is what
everyone seems to want, you go into a
deflationary economy, you basically break the back of
the economy, because nobody buys anything during a
deflation period, because why should I buy today
when it'll be cheaper tomorrow?
So they just hold on to their money,
everything collapses.
So you're just stuck with the situation the
way it is, and bitching and moaning about
it doesn't help.
I think the president did himself no favors
by saying, I'll bring prices down.
He was pretty bold about the generic, I'll
bring prices down bit.
Well, he was also like, when we get
into the...
I have some clips here on...
Who is this?
About the hearings that we had this week
with Bondi.
I got three clips.
I curse YouTube TV for putting C-SPAN
on.
I curse you.
Well, I have...
You know, I've tried to figure out...
Pam Bondi goes, this is a classic example
of the mistakes the administration is making that
will affect the midterms.
And Bondi is the best example of it.
But so I got these three BBC clips,
which I think, because they have an analyst
come in, who's obviously biased against Trump, but
I have to agree with everything he says
about Bondi.
She goes into front of Congress, and she
gets into a big battle with everybody, because
she won't answer questions to the Democrats.
And the Democrats are a-holes.
You're a failed lawyer.
I mean, okay.
It's ridiculous.
Yeah, it's a failed lawyer thing.
No, Raskin was funny, though.
Jamie Raskin's a dick, and he's a communist,
and he's the worst person in Congress.
And she goes after it with him.
But again, you want to play these clips?
Yeah, yeah, of course.
Of course, it's great.
This is the BBC report on the hearings.
I could have gone and gotten clips.
No, everyone's doing that.
Yeah, no, this analysis is better.
Then you'd be Megyn Kelly.
Clip me, clip me.
Put it on social media.
Turning now to the tense scenes on Capitol
Hill today, as US Attorney General Pam Bondi
faced heavy scrutiny from a congressional panel about
her handling of the Epstein files.
In often combative exchanges, Democrats on the House
Judiciary Committee accused the Justice Department of an
active cover-up.
The lawmakers criticized the slow release of documents
and the choice to censor names of alleged
co-conspirators over those of victims.
Here's one particularly heated exchange between Pam Bondi
and Republican Congressman Thomas Massey.
My position is any victim who comes forward,
of course, we would love to hear from
them.
1-800-CALL-FBI.
Did you ask Merrick Garland that the last
four years?
Did you talk about Epstein?
I am reclaiming my time.
I'm glad you're asking about Merrick Garland because
this is bigger than Watergate.
This goes over four administrations.
You don't have to go back to Biden.
Let's go back to Obama.
Let's go back to George Bush.
This cover-up spans decades and you are
responsible for this portion of it.
Now, Pam Bondi admitted in a letter to
federal judges this week that mistakes were made
in the Epstein case.
But at Wednesday's congressional hearing, the attorney general
defended her department's strategy saying hundreds of lawyers
worked on a compressed timeline to review millions
of pages and that any disclosure of victims'
identities were inadvertent.
Take a listen.
I want to take a moment to acknowledge
the Epstein survivors who are here today.
I'm a career prosecutor and despite what the
ranking member said, I have spent my entire
career fighting for victims and I will continue
to do so.
I am deeply sorry for what any victim,
any victim has been through, especially as a
result of that monster.
The Department of Justice is committed to holding
criminals accountable to the fullest extent of the
law.
I still would like a news outlet to
give me a definition of victim.
You know, were you a victim because you
were underage?
Were you a victim because you got sucked
up into something you should have stayed away
with?
Stayed away from?
You know, just throw out victims and survivors
and I'd like to know a little bit
more.
Yeah, I'm in agreement with you on this.
It's vague.
It's very vague.
The whole thing is very vague.
And so they bring this guy on to
talk about- Let me just add to
that.
Is there a victim who was truly underage
and sexually abused by Epstein or any of
the co-conspirators?
If so, why can't they speak?
Why are they not out there speaking about
it?
This is what I don't understand.
I don't understand.
It seems like that would be a good
thing to do.
Tell us what happened.
You know, where's the 60 Minutes interview?
It seems like, it feels like something's missing
here from the equation if it is what
we're told it is.
There's something missing.
Yeah.
But I think there's a lot missing.
Yeah.
And of course, did you see the video
that guy sent this morning that floated over
this?
It was a song presented the history of
Epstein based in a song form.
Oh, the video?
Yeah, I've seen that.
Where they got everybody tied up in one
big giant ball?
It's dynamite.
That's worth the $1.3 trillion investment right
there.
So they bring this guy, and I have
to agree with this guy and his analysis
of Bond.
Of course, the two of us, I think
Bond is a doofus.
She's not talented and she's combative and she
doesn't present well.
She's not well-spoken and her argument's weak
and she snaps and she doesn't do anything.
She's a do nothing.
Well, it's almost as though they're making the
public suffer because Matt Gaetz got kicked out.
He was the original choice who would have
probably been an interesting attorney general, I think,
but they kicked him out and he didn't
even get back into Congress and they're making
us suffer.
Well, I mean, the correct way to handle
a hostile Congress interrogation is not this way.
You want to be cool.
You want to have sharp...
That's why Rubio is so good at it.
Yes, and Rubio has very sharp, very fast,
good answers, parades like no one else.
But Bond, he just goes, you're a failed
lawyer.
You don't care about people killed by illegal
immigrants.
Okay, you're mixing apples with oranges.
I understand it should have been about ICE
and DHS.
I believe that's what the session was for,
but it obviously devolved into Epstein.
And, you know, just sit there, well, you
don't care that a sitting Congresswoman took money
from Epstein.
You don't care that you took money from
Epstein, Ro Khanna, Rohana.
You know, it's like, that's not, that's what
they call bullcrap.
No, she's not doing a good job, no.
But then it gets compounded as we listen
to, when we listen to this analyst who
has a lot to say.
Let's speak about that congressional hearing today with
Ankush Kardori, senior writer for Political Magazine and
a former federal prosecutor at the Department of
Justice.
It's good to have you back with us
on the program today.
What do you think we learned, if anything,
from the hearing today?
We learned nothing, except we learned a little
bit more for people who had already didn't
know about the professionalism or utter lack thereof
of the top law enforcement official in our
country.
I thought, well, let me put it this
way.
If you saw someone acting like she did
today, like at the table over at a
restaurant, if you were out to dinner, you
would ask yourself, is this person okay?
And you'd probably ask management to escort them
from the restaurant.
This is now the person who is our
attorney general.
I thought it was an embarrassment to her,
the department, and frankly, our country on their
international stage.
Also, why isn't anyone asking, the people who
are in the emails talking about pizza and
jerky?
That's something I'd like to understand.
Do you really put jerky in the freezer?
Could you explain that to me?
This is what I'm interested in, if anything.
No, there's none of that.
No one asked.
You're never going to get any of that.
That's verboten.
Yeah.
Okay, so onward.
You're still in clip two?
We're on to the three is lined up
and good to go in my Linux play
out system.
Good.
If you look at the exchanges there, there
were certainly plenty of shouting going back and
forth with Democrats as well.
What was the point for Democrats here?
Is this about viral clips that they can
post online as well?
Well, look, yeah.
Part of these hearings always have a performative
element to them.
Unfortunately, in this day and age, yeah, I
think many members are focused on getting bites
that they can post to their social media.
But I kind of, yeah, they were going
back and forth with Democrats, but she wasn't
answering their questions.
And she was yelling at them, and she
was trying to change the subject.
She was filibustering endless non sequiturs.
So this was her fault.
The point that she made a few times
there is, why did you not ask these
questions of Merrick Garland, who was the attorney
general under Joe Biden?
And that again is a point that the
Trump administration and many of President Trump's allies
have made, that Democrats are taking advantage of
the Epstein files to try to detract from
the administration.
What do you make of that argument?
Yeah, it's the logic of a five year
old.
This administration came into office promising to release
this material.
They then spent all yet last year hemming,
hawing, backtracking, undertaking really disgusting efforts to mislead
the public, including spending two days with Ghislaine
Maxwell as if she's not a monster.
And so, and then we had Pam Bondi
with the binders and the clientless is on
my desk.
I mean, they created this mess.
So yes, there is an element of politics
on the side of the Democrats, for sure.
I was not a fan of this law.
I didn't want it to pass.
So don't get me wrong on that.
But the state of affairs in our country
right now is a function of the fact
that the president, his vice president, his FBI
director, and until recently, deputy FBI director spent
years spitting up these conspiracy theories.
So it's kind of nuts for her of
all people to like try to make this
someone else's problem.
She is the one who did multiple Fox
interviews next last year, hyping this up, the
binders, more is coming, the clientless, yada, yada,
yada.
Yada, yada, yada.
Well, he said, yada, yada, yada.
Well, the point I think he made, which
I agree with is that she brought this
on herself.
She had to, oh, this on my desk.
Oh, here's the binders.
Here's this, she's terrible.
Yes, I completely agree with that.
That was an idiotic move.
That's really, that's what screwed it all up.
Yeah, it's her.
Yeah, she's gotta go.
I have a couple of clips about this.
What, what, hmm, what?
Well, my browser's not working right.
Well, are you using Bravo?
No, I'm using HBO.
This is a prime minister's question time because
of course what's happening in the EU and
the UK is much more interesting as it
pertains to the Epstein files.
Yes, by far.
And Keir Starmer is under a lot of
scrutiny and stress mainly because, and you know,
all they talk about is, well, you knew
he was a, you know, he was a
sex trafficker.
You knew all this.
How about the fact that he was leaking
really sensitive information about a 500 billion euro
bailout during 2008, five minutes after he found
out devaluation of the pound, five minutes after
he found out telling Epstein that.
I mean, think, think about the people who
were in on that gambit.
If you, I mean, when it comes to
foreign exchange, if you know there's a big
bailout coming and it's secret, place your bets.
Oh yeah, no, it's easy money.
And if Epstein knew it, then he probably
called all of his buddies.
That's an outrage.
Anyway, here's prime minister's question time.
Mr. Speaker, I asked the prime minister a
very specific question.
Did he know that Mandelson had continued his
friendship with Epstein after the conviction?
He says if he knew then what he
knows now, but he did know in January,
2024, a journalist from the financial times informed
the prime minister that Mandelson had stayed in
Epstein's house even after that conviction for child
prostitution.
So did the prime minister conveniently forget this
fact or did he decide it was a
risk worth taking?
Mr. Speaker, as the house would expect, we
went through a process.
There was a due diligence exercise and then
there was security vetting by the security services.
What was not known was the depth, the
sheer depth and extent of the relationship.
He lied about that to everyone for years.
A new information was published in September showing
the relationship was materially different to what we'd
been led to believe.
When the new information came to light, I
sacked him.
Oh yes, I sacked him.
You already knew that.
You already knew.
And now the guys working for Starmer are
bailing.
The rats are leaving the ship.
It's the second high profile exit from Keir
Starmer's entourage in as many days.
Tim Allen, the UK prime minister's communications chief
said he was standing down to make way
for a new team to be built at
number 10 Downing Street.
It's part of the fallout over Keir Starmer's
decision to appoint Peter Mandelson as ambassador to
the United States.
Despite knowing Mandelson had maintained links to the
convicted sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein.
On Sunday, Starmer's chief of staff, Morgan McSweeney,
quit.
In a statement, McSweeney said he took responsibility
for pushing the appointment of Mandelson.
It was interpreted in the British press as
a move to buy the prime minister more
time.
Starmer, though, is still facing calls to step
down, including from the leader of Scotland's Labour
Party.
Meanwhile, Conservative party leader Kemi Badenoch accused him
of being unable to run his government.
The prime minister is the architect of his
own misfortunes.
Right now, we have a government that's focusing
purely on its own internal psychodrama.
Enough of that.
It is time for them to get a
grip and start governing the country.
Controversy around Peter Mandelson reignited after a new
batch of files related to Jeffrey Epstein were
released just over a week ago in the
United States.
Documents appeared to indicate Mandelson had leaked sensitive
information to Epstein while he was a government
minister.
There were also records of payments from Epstein
to accounts linked to the British politician or
his partner.
Starmer sacked the US ambassador in September, but
the latest revelations prompted Mandelson to resign from
the Labour Party and the House of Lords
while police are investigating him for potential misconduct
in public office.
On Monday, a spokesperson for Keir Starmer said
he was focused on getting the job done
and had no plans to step aside.
That Mandelson.
Man, they don't even really...
BBC doesn't even say it.
He was...
Sensitive information?
That was world-shattering information.
And then, well, you know, hey, if you're
going to send 75,000 to my husband,
my partner, just say it's a loan so
there'll be no tax implication for him.
But come on.
The corruption by...
By...
The by.
Wow.
Saved myself.
See, you're better than I am at this.
By the by.
Annoying as hell.
By the way of Jesus.
I don't think Mandelson is long for this
world.
There's...
There's got to be more.
There's got to be a lot more and
nobody wants anyone snooping around Mandelson.
You know, there's also the strange thing I
put in the...
I think it was in a newsletter I
mentioned this.
The gay angle all of a sudden shows
up.
With this...
With this Russian guy who's...
Yeah.
Bill Gates and he's...
Wants to meet some boys or something and
they're kind of going back and forth some
emails that he discovered and he wants to
meet Kevin Spacey who is, you know...
Because Kevin knows all the young boys.
Yeah, basically, you know, it's just...
The whole thing is like...
It's tawdry and...
All kinds of dimensionally tawdry.
Yes, tawdry.
I like that.
It's tawdry.
That's a very good term.
Tawdry.
Gordon Brown comes out trying to give some
kind of defense for...
Another one of them.
Another great guy.
Well, he has clearly said it was the
wrong decision and it was the wrong decision
just as I made a mistake.
He made a mistake.
But equally, I think you've got to say
of Keir Starmer that there's very few people...
What was Gordon Brown's mistake?
I don't know.
I don't remember.
Something.
Besides...
He made a mistake.
Besides breaking the Bank of England.
Besides that, yeah.
Minor mistake.
A mistake.
He made a mistake.
But equally, I think you've got to say
of Keir Starmer that there's very few people
that you can say have got the same
amount of integrity as Keir Starmer has.
He was director of public prosecutions, did a
brilliant job.
He's a...
Public...
He was in charge of prosecutions.
That is the guy who should absolutely know
that it was not a good idea to
put Mandelson in.
Or maybe the most brilliant idea ever.
Director of public prosecutions, did a brilliant job.
He's a serious man who wants to do
the right thing in British politics.
If he made a mistake, he owns up
to it.
But I think the question now for Keir
Starmer is, is he prepared and will he
be prepared to bring in the reforms that
are necessary to end these abuses?
What we're dealing with is...
What reforms are you going to bring in
to end these abuses?
What is he talking about?
Reforms.
In the reforms that are necessary to end
these abuses, what we're dealing with is the
abuse of power.
We're dealing with the systematic abuse of power
by lobbyists, by people who are corrupt, by
people who don't give proper...
By politicians and their cronies, Gordon Brown.
Information when they're asked to disclose information.
We're dealing with a lack of transparency in
the system.
All these things.
And by the way, I did a report
for Keir...
Oh, by the way!
...that this be done.
And this is the report that should be
taken...
You see how bad it sounds when you
hear someone say it?
It sounds like, he's lying now.
By the way is not a good term.
We're dealing with a lack of transparency in
the system.
All these things.
And by the way, I did a report
for Keir recommending all that this be done.
And this is the report that should be
taken up.
There are four areas where we need to
make major reforms.
They could be done within weeks with the
support of members of Parliament in the House
of Commons.
And I believe it would be possible.
We could start to clean up the system
from tomorrow.
But it's got to be done.
You know, what this has created is a
complete...
On the heels of COVID, obviously.
A complete and total lack of trust for
government.
Across the board, every country, everywhere.
No one, no one trusts government anymore.
Not even those, the nutjobs protesting in Minneapolis.
And I don't know if...
Can any country recover from that?
What are the historical analogs to this?
Well, the history of the United States, I
think, is part of it.
Yeah.
And what do we wind up in?
In the 1800s, we had a bunch of
doofuses running things.
And what happened?
What happened when the...
You just come out of it somehow.
I was looking for more of a historian
angle there.
Well, that's the best I can do.
I'd hope for more.
Well, yeah, you can hope all you want.
Yeah, obviously.
And then we have...
I was explaining to someone about the Olympics,
about the IOC.
I said, what's the IOC?
The International Olympic Committee.
And they have all these country committees.
What is it?
I said, it's the most corrupt organization.
Maybe...
Well, there's a couple that would rival it.
The most corrupt corporation.
But what you do is you leave politics
and then you go to the IOC.
Every IOC of every country is filled with
former politicians and they get paid for being
part of the board and going on the
board.
And they all have their buddies with big...
Hey, I see advertising on the Olympics.
I don't know about you.
You know, it's a huge boondoggle, especially the
summer Olympics.
We got to build a stadium and that's
going to bankrupt the country.
And then some dude will come in and
buy it for a team that he just
bought.
It's a mess.
But, oh, don't worry.
We'll take care of you.
The city's Olympic Organizing Committee, LA28, is standing
by its chairman, Casey Wasserman.
Wasserman's name is in the latest batch of
Epstein files.
He traveled on Epstein's private jet once and
later exchanged racy emails with Epstein conspirator Ghislaine
Maxwell.
Today, LA28's executive board issuing a statement saying
they've reviewed the situation and Wasserman fully cooperated.
They say his relationship with Epstein and Maxwell
did not go beyond what is publicly known.
And given Wasserman's strong leadership, he will be
staying on as chairman of LA28.
Of course.
Why not?
I'm sure there'll be some hotties at the
Olympics this year.
Just let him let him do his thing.
Yeah, it's a good one.
It's complete, complete loss of trust, which for
me, it already happened.
And someone pointed out, and that was a
good point, that we, they keep reminding us,
hey, man, the lockdowns happened under Trump.
Yes, absolutely.
Trump got bamboozled too.
And still can't really admit that the vaccines
were not a good idea.
Which is, I think, still very disappointing.
Yeah, but he likes the idea that this
warp speed, you know, he was responsible for
it happening faster than ever.
And he's just kind of can't bring himself.
Well, we completely, he was bamboozled is the
right word.
And by the way, where was the first
lockdown?
By the way, he said, by the way,
where was the first lockdown?
Where was the first lockdown?
China?
And no, it was San Francisco.
Oh, yes.
Yes, and you have to continue to hound
me.
So I'm two to nothing on this.
And I'll say this about the lockdowns.
Trump didn't lock down anything.
It was Birx who went to every single
state, all the governors, and convinced the governors
to do it.
That's why I don't like Abbott.
That's how that went down.
That was the back channel that was very
successful.
And of course, President Trump could.
And you liked Birx when she first showed
up.
First two weeks.
Yeah, I mean, you like saying that.
You're a Birx fan.
You like saying that.
But after two weeks, I think we very
clearly saw what was going on.
And we may have saved lives.
Well, we saw what was going on.
I think it was triggered personally, at least
what triggered me.
I've thought about this, you know, why were
we so caught up in this the way
we were?
It's because of that French Nobel Prize winner.
Yeah, yeah.
Who looked at the genome, at the map
of the thing and said, this is bullcrap.
This thing is obviously created in a lab.
And here's the reasons why.
And he says, and what's this HIV thing
doing in here?
It doesn't make any sense.
Don't worry about it.
It'll just revert, which it did.
It has reverted, just like he said.
Today's COVID is nothing like the original.
It's reverted back to a common cold.
Or flu.
Yeah, I think one of the two.
Unfortunately, we still have blowback.
This is your typical report.
This is also from KTLA.
The death of Dawson's Creek actor James Van
Der Beek comes after he was diagnosed with
stage 3 colorectal cancer.
His passing is renewing concern about a disease
that's rising among younger adults.
These are young men still in the primes
of their career, and now we lost them.
According to the American Cancer Society, it's now
the leading cause of cancer deaths in Americans
under 50.
About one in five new cases is diagnosed
in someone under 55.
Americans, we don't like to talk about the
health of our butts.
And so there's a certain shame and embarrassment
surrounding that.
Gustavo says he ignored his doctor's recommendation to
get screened at 45 until a reminder during
a physical pushed him to finally schedule a
colonoscopy.
And it said that they found three polyps.
If I had even waited months more, they
found three of them.
How much bigger could they have been?
Polyps can develop into cancer if left untreated.
Doctors say that's why screenings are so important.
If you can get it early, then you
can completely eradicate it and you will have
no further problems.
If it's later stage, it could be widespread
to other organs at the time you're diagnosed.
Researchers are still working to understand exactly why
cases are increasing in younger people.
But doctors say whatever the cause, the solution
starts with awareness.
What could the cause be?
Yeah, it seems that this is something new.
I wonder why.
I have no idea what could have changed.
Was he an actor or somebody who was
forced to get the vaccine to work?
Oh, man, there's going to be such as
so many openings in Hollywood.
I hate to say it, but.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, the FDA just refused Moderna's application for
an MRNA flu vaccine.
Praise God.
Someone, someone got smart over there.
Thank you.
Maybe RFK Jr. The one that.
Oh, did you know this is just a
it's just a momentary lapse.
This will go back into full gear toward
the other in the other direction.
You you're so cynical.
No, I'm not cynical.
I'm a realist.
Stop with your realist.
You're not always right.
Not always.
I mean, sometimes.
You see about this stuff, I'm pretty, pretty
on the money.
The the GLP one, the.
I'm still waiting for it to solve erectile
dysfunction.
Please stop sending me articles about how it
enlarges the penis.
It's not the same thing.
OK, people keep sending me this.
You were right.
No, it's when they say it solves erectile
dysfunction, then I will be right.
It's coming.
It's it's coming.
But right now, one of the new.
They have to roll this stuff out.
It this marketing one on one.
You don't throw everything at the at the
side of the wall right away.
You do one gob at a time and
then that catches on and you pick up
some more of the market share.
And then you throw another thing out there
and another thing.
Your thing is just happens to be low
on the list.
It's going to be at the bottom.
It's going to be at the end.
It'll be the hail Mary's closing argument.
The hail Mary.
We'll be a hail Mary at the time.
It'll be the how much more can we
squeeze out of it?
The squeeze was the last drop we can
get out of this bullcrap.
One of the side effects, a very high
profile side effect comes to us from Robbie
Williams, British pop singer.
Yeah, I've always liked Robbie Williams.
I've always liked his stuff.
Famous in the UK, but he's never really
that big in the in the States.
No, but he is famous in the big,
big, big.
We just outsold the Beatles, I guess, in
in the UK, whatever that means.
Had more number one hits or something.
He came out and said he was diagnosed
with a 17th century pirate disease as a
side effect.
Yes, scurvy.
Exactly.
But it's a vitamin C deficiency.
It's no big deal.
But it sounds cool when you say Ozempic
will give you scurvy.
It's just, yeah, I guess Ozempic will give
you scurvy.
Yeah, scurvy.
Scurvy.
I tell you, scurvy.
I love it.
Pretty bad.
I love scurvy.
It's great.
That's great.
I wanted to get these clips out of
the way.
This is a, you know, as the Nancy
Guthrie thing was dominating the news, except on
Ms. Now.
Can I just stop you for a second?
What do you think happened?
Do you think that it was an illegal
that killed her?
At this point, yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
I think that's a reasonable, reasonable assessment.
What was the other one we were looking
at?
Oh, the pregnant astronaut.
Do we have any more updates on that?
No, not yet, but it's coming.
It's coming.
She's going to have a baby and we'll
know when that happens.
We'll do the math.
Mimi says that maybe Mimi had an offbeat
thing.
She was getting sick of the Guthrie stuff.
And she says, I think she was the
leader of a massive Mexican drug cartel.
Okay.
All right.
The one I like is her husband worked
for Clinton and she knew where the bodies
were buried, so they had to get rid
of her.
There are people who I know and love
and have been corresponding with on email for
a long time.
We're like, this is all set up.
This is all, you know, it's just like,
no, it's going to be a lot easier
than that.
Epstein used her house.
Yeah.
Where's that coming out?
Oh, no, of course.
Of course.
All of that.
And that's the problem when people lose trust
in their government.
They go nuts.
Then everything is a conspiracy.
And a lot of it is.
But there's a lot of conspiracies.
Actual conspiracies.
Yeah, it turns out.
Yes.
So while that was being covered to excess.
Yes.
The Canadian trans shooter.
Oh, yeah.
Is pretty much dropped by the American media.
Can't talk about that.
I think it was a cover up because
you own another.
You can just see it in the editorial
rooms.
Do we have to bring this another trans
shooter?
This is getting tiresome.
And so here we go.
The BBC had a nice report.
Here we go.
Canada reels from one of the worst mass
shootings in its history.
Police named the suspect as 18-year-old
Jesse van Rutselaar.
Eight people were killed and 25 people injured
in the attacks at Tumbler Ridge Secondary School
and a private home.
It happened in the westernmost province of British
Columbia, in the remote town of Tumbler Ridge
at the foot of the Rocky Mountains.
Six of the victims were killed at the
town's secondary school.
One died on their way to the hospital.
Another two were found in a nearby house.
In all, 25 other people were injured.
And police say the body of the suspected
shooter was found at the school.
Police say they don't yet have a motive
and they gave this update to reporters.
On February 10th at approximately 1.20 p
.m. Pacific Standard Time at Tumbler Ridge, RCMP
received a report of an active shooter at
Tumbler Ridge Secondary School.
A police-initiated public alert, PIPA, was issued
as officers responded.
Police from Tumbler Ridge RCMP and surrounding detachments
responded immediately, with members from the local detachment
arriving within two minutes of the initial call.
Upon arrival, there was active gunfire, and as
officers approached the school, rounds were fired in
their direction.
Officers entered the school to locate the threat.
Within minutes, an individual confirmed to be the
shooter was located deceased, with what appeared to
be a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
The suspect has been identified as 18-year
-old Jesse Van Roetzelar, who is a resident
of Tumbler Ridge.
Two firearms, a long gun and a modified
handgun, were recovered by responding officers.
Determining the origin of these firearms and what
role they played in the shootings remains a
significant part of the active and ongoing investigation.
Yeah.
What role they played, the people or the
guns?
Well, the guns, the role they played was
they shot people.
I saw a post, who knows if it's
true, that a lot of the kids who
were killed also seemed to be somewhat alternatively
dressed and perhaps trans as well.
Did you see any of that?
No, I have not seen any evidence of
that.
The whole thing is horrible and so predictable.
So predictable.
And I guess there had already been problems
at that home, and they went to that
home and they removed guns.
Is Canada big on guns?
It's a mining town.
Maybe that's it.
Well, here we go with part two.
The second, this is all explained in these
clips.
Oh, good, good.
Our North America correspondent Netta Taufik is following
this story for us today.
Netta, it is good to see you.
The press conference that police delivered gave us
some more details about the suspect.
Tell us about what we know.
Yeah, that's right.
You know, police say that Jesse Van Roetzelar
is somebody who was known to them.
In fact, that they had visited the family
home several times over the last few years
for mental health reasons.
They say, in fact, that they had actually
taken Jesse Van Roetzelar in for evaluation and
assessment on a number of occasions, and that
also firearms in that home had been seized
under a criminal code, that they were able
to do that until the lawful owner of
those firearms petitioned the courts to have those
returned.
Remember, Sumi, the suspect had not only a
modified handgun, but a long gun in these
attacks there in Tumbler Ridge.
And what we also heard from police was
that this 18-year-old suspect is someone
who dropped out of Tumbler Ridge Secondary School
four years ago.
And that six years ago, Jesse Van Roetzelar,
who was born a biological male, began to
transition and identify as a female.
So quite a lot more detail on the
suspect.
But as far as motive, they say that
they aren't able to piece that together yet,
less than 24 hours after this attack.
Would you do the math on that?
Yeah, hit me again with that.
Six years?
He's 18.
Yeah.
Six years ago, he began to transition.
He was 12.
Oh, yeah.
Now, you got a 12-year-old prepubescent
kid, 12-year-old, you know, and this
is pretty interesting.
So you have, and now he's got trouble.
He's got problems.
And he dropped out of school four years
earlier at 14.
So he'd stopped going to school at the
age of 14, which is what, eighth grade?
I guess.
I don't know.
So anyway, all right.
Well, all right.
I'll have a comment after this third clip.
And what have police said about the timeline
of the attack?
Well, look, they say that Jesse Van Roetzelar
started at the family home where she allegedly
killed her mother and stepbrother.
And then from there, they say that the
suspect then targeted the school.
Now, we heard authorities saying that they were
on the scene within minutes, but they did
say that they heard gunfire when they arrived
and that the suspect did direct fire at
officers on the scene.
There, they said that they found six people
dead in the school, a female teacher, along
with five students from the ages of 12
to 13.
And all of that in a matter of
minutes.
Of course, we know that there are 25
others who were injured, Sumi.
Those two of those people were airlifted to
hospital, others still fighting for their lives in
hospital as we speak.
So for this small community, it really is
one of the worst mass shootings, of course,
in Canada's history.
But it is a profound loss for this
small, quiet community itself.
I need to get rid of all the
guns in Canada.
You know, the Canadians are freaky about guns
anyway.
But you'd think this would be this is
a lead story.
I'd think if I was running one of
the networks, but the lead story has been
the Nancy Guthrie story, which is providing no
information whatsoever.
Of course, they know.
I mean, they bring they put people out
there, they stand up, they do a segment
that last 10 minutes, they tell us nothing.
And meanwhile, this story is completely dropped.
Well, of course, because everyone is complicit.
The media is complicit.
The therapists are complicit.
The plastic surgeons are complicit.
And sadly, sadly, parents have been we have
a friend, a younger couple, which means in
their mid 40s.
And she was a therapist.
She's still a therapist.
She doesn't practice anymore.
She was a therapist in Louisiana.
And she would advertise Christian therapists, pretty much
everything, but not saying no LGBTQ.
And she said parents would bring their kids
and they'll be I just want my daughter,
my son to be happy.
They all kept reciting the same thing.
I'd rather have a daughter who's happy than
a dead son or a son who's happy
the other way around.
Well, no, but it was it goes both
ways.
Yeah, it goes both ways.
Right.
And that was the psychological operation.
And these parents, you know, now that we
have the first lawsuit, the $2 million loss,
it was New York, which, by the way,
there you go, by the way, three, zero,
three, three, three, nothing.
I feel so bad for myself.
God, me too.
So the this $2 million lawsuit, I think,
is super low.
Yes, I agree.
Because you have sterilization.
You can't most people don't.
Now it's turning out you can't you can
never in your entire life after you get
these treatments when you're like 12, 13, 14,
you can never have an orgasm.
No, no, all of that.
You can't have a natural life.
You can't you can't reproduce.
There's all these things.
And $2 million is nothing when people get
a clue when these lawyers finally, you know,
the good lawyers, the top guys get a
hold of this.
You're talking 20, 30, 40, 50 million.
And how about the news doctors who are
all telling us that, well, you know, you
can these blockers, they're just temporary.
When you stop them, then everything goes back
to normal.
No lie.
That's a lie.
These people should be held.
Lots of people should be held accountable.
But I feel the worst for the parents
who just wanted their kid to be happy.
You do a lot for your kid to
be happy.
And if you're told over and over, remember,
I got the the books.
My daughter wants to be a boy.
What do I do?
And I bought all those books that were
being, there's a bunch of them.
And the book was very little about the
kid, all about how do you deal with
the school?
How do you deal with with other parents?
How do you deal with your family?
Nothing about the kid.
I guess we just jack them up with
SSRIs.
Ah, it's so, so, so sad.
So sad.
Here's a I just got a short.
No, it's not even short.
A clip from NewsNation, because I went looking
on YouTube.
Hey, give me some reports about this in
America.
None, except your typical NewsNation report.
But there were some valid points in here.
There was a Canadian school shooting yesterday.
The school shooter killed nine and injured at
least 25 before killing themselves.
I say themselves because the shooter's gender is
the issue here.
The shooter is transgender, man to woman.
And Canada is so woke.
The Royal Canadian Mounted Police at one point
referred to him now her as the gun
person.
It's noteworthy that the police seem awfully concerned
with respecting the shooter's preferred pronouns.
We identified the suspect as they chose to
be identified in public and in social media.
I can say that Jesse was born as
a biological male who approximately the information that
I have approximately six years ago, began to
transition to female and identified as female, both
socially and publicly.
In Canada, it is illegal to misgender someone.
The police should be careful.
You know, and thinking about why it doesn't
get any play for the same, for the
exact same reason that they play up the
two seconds erroneous Obama 8 video versus the,
hey, wait a minute.
These voting machines and the vote counting machines
seem to be pretty bogus and all things
you told us aren't true.
I think the Democrat Party and they're, yeah,
forget they're just politicians, but the Schumers of
the world and the big donors and the
strategists and the think tanks, they are probably
on their knees thanking God that this didn't
happen in America.
Because that's all they need.
If that happened, we're all that get excellent
point.
President Trump can jump up and say, look
at what's happening.
Look at what the Democrats did to your
kids.
And I think he should do it.
I think that's exactly why this thing is.
This story has been suppressed in the U
.S. media.
Exactly.
Don't talk about it.
Don't give Trump any ideas.
Distract him with more.
Trump any ideas.
We're on a roll.
We're doing great so far.
Hey, with that, I want to thank you
for your courage in the morning to you,
the man who put the sea in the
17th century pirate's disease.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end.
The one, the only Mr. John C.
DeMora.
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And thank you all for the lovely email
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And I'd listen to it again.
And I think it's one of the few
really long form Scott Adams interviews that are
around.
I don't think there's any.
I think that is the definitive interview.
Now, I look back on it.
Now, I got a lot of compliments, too,
I will say.
This was from, I did this interview eight
years ago and nobody paid attention.
You just listened to that Trump apologist, which
you brought up in the interview.
Scott Adams, Trump apologist.
Yeah, exactly.
So now I got a lot of attention,
you know, eight years later.
But thinking back on it, I didn't realize
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I didn't think about it.
Nobody ever interviewed Scott.
They brought him on shows.
I don't think he wanted to be interviewed.
It wasn't his thing.
I'm guessing that probably is true.
He was reclusive.
Yeah, you had a special relationship with him.
And of course, it was.
Yeah, well, I've known him forever.
It was pre-COVID and that's when he
really blew up for all kinds of different
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He was already huge, of course.
The one thing I'm sad about is I
wish we've been able to find out what
actually happened to his restaurants because he was
like, I can't talk about it because there's
all kinds of litigation and we settled and
then we agreed not to.
Oh, I know.
I know the story.
Can you talk about it?
Yeah, of course you can.
Basically, he was put into a position where
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into forcing him into putting more money in
or there was a situation that he was
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And they said, you have to do it
or else we'll just, they bluffed him saying,
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And he said, you know, no, shutter it.
No, I'm not going to do that.
And he just let it fold.
Yeah, good for him.
He walked on a deal where he was
being pressured.
Yeah, good for him.
So that was good.
And I thought it was good to do
that on Super Bowl Sunday.
We did talk about our predictions, which I
missed, of course, and you won.
Yeah, by a long shot.
But then again, you are the sports ball
guy.
Yeah, so thank you all for that.
It was just nice.
It was nice to see, I think also
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And I think it was good, particularly because
a lot of people just hadn't heard the
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So that made it, it was a no
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Yes.
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Now, the artwork, which is part of our
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And Darren had actually came in late because
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And he had a different piece of art.
But this was, I believe, there's a story
behind it.
But we, I think we got permission from
Scott to use Dilbert.
Yes, Dilbert art was approved.
But wasn't that a comic strip blogger, OG
piece of art?
It was, it was comic strip blogger.
It had different caption.
And yes.
And you use Photoshop, old school.
No, I did not.
I use that.
I use the, my Photoshop on the machine.
I had was working on.
You used the GIMP.
No, I didn't.
I use the recommended product that was in
the tip of the day.
If you look back far enough.
Now, what was that?
How would I have to go back it
up?
But it's an old tip, real early tip
of the day.
It was a photo editor and it did.
And I could, it had the tool I
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The problem with erasing a background, you know,
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And there's a word for this.
It's light at the top and dark at
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If you just black out the, you know,
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And you, this tool does that.
So I could just eliminate the old text
and put the new text in.
Oh, wow.
Good.
Well, I gave, I gave you and CSB
credit for the art.
That sounds right.
I'm surprised you didn't try it with AI.
Hey, AI.
No, I can do it faster without AI.
Exactly the same.
Just add the words.
Farewell, my friend.
I bet you AI couldn't do it.
Well, I changed this.
I probably could, but it would be a
mess.
I changed the background and did some other
stuff.
You would have, you would have my friend
spelled wrong.
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Karma.
What?
You're just laughing like a maniac.
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We didn't go over the art.
There was nothing else to go over.
No, I know.
But I was looking at the page and
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Okay.
I'm sorry.
I was laughing at this piece.
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Oh, no.
Yes.
Wrong.
I missed that.
Sorry.
Yes.
Missed it.
Do a copy edit.
I suck.
Without you, he continues, my life would be,
would really be a massacre.
I don't know what that means, but okay.
Wishing you, and now he's switching gears and
he's wishing me and Adam the very best.
I, A-Y-E, Zimbabwe, pro, proletarian of
the liberated socialist people's Republic of Woke County,
North Carolina.
Boom.
There you go.
Yes.
Valentine's.
Are you celebrating Valentine's Day sometime in April?
Or do you actually stick to February 14th?
It's nothing to celebrate.
It's just, when you're, yes.
I was in the 10th grade and I
was giving cards to the various girls in
the class.
Let me just give you a tip.
Here's a tip.
All women, I don't care who they are,
all women like at least a card or
a phone call.
And I implore them.
I always do the phone call.
Hey, happy Valentine's Day.
Hey, did you watch Max Velocity?
Okay.
Dame Catherine, she is our crypto granny of
Bangkok, comes in with the Bitcoin, $500 worth.
Which will be a thousand dollars next year.
This is to thank John for the absolutely
fantastic interview with Scott Adams.
May his soul fly free.
Dame Catherine, crypto granny of Bangkok.
Yeah.
Beautiful.
It's beautiful.
Sergi and Brad Brackley, Northamptonshire, UK.
333.33. Treasure for your time and talent,
Sergi.
There you go.
Is in clarified butter.
Alec Hartman, Spring, Texas.
Ah, the Texans are out.
I love the Texans.
$333.33. ITM fellas, long-time douchebag, first
-time donor.
Well, I guess he wants a de-douching,
yes.
You've been de-douched.
John, keep the TikTok clips coming.
Thank you both for your courage.
And here's his Valentine's Day ad.
All right.
Single, unmarried, and childless ladies in the woodlands
in greater Houston, Texas area.
I am a single, unmarried, and childless 32
-year-old man seeking a like-minded woman
with Christian values.
You got to have the three sixes, man.
Six pack, six figures, six feet tall.
I live an intentionally slow-paced life.
I enjoy working hard in my career and
at the gym.
Oh, there you go.
I thrive when I'm able to rest, spend
my time with family, and indulge in unstructured
leisure time.
I'm thinking skiing.
I'm looking for a long-term partner to
share in my joie de vivre with the
hope of getting hitched and making a family
of our own down the road.
If you're interested in grabbing a drink, going
out for a fun brunch date, or wandering
around a museum together, you can find me
at noagendasoulmates at gmail.com.
Once again, that's noagendasoulmates at gmail.com.
No jingles, just karma and a de-douching,
please, which I gave you.
Happy Valentine's Day.
Peace be with you all.
We got the karma for you.
Where's he located?
You've got karma.
In Spring, Texas, which is...
So the woodlands is...
Oh, Texas is loaded with gals.
The woodlands is a classy area.
People with money live in the woodlands.
So I'm just saying, ladies, just saying.
Okay.
So Hare Hill in White Salmon, Washington.
333.33. Jobs Karma really works?
Uh-huh.
Starting the new job in a couple of
weeks and sharing some of the spoils.
And a round of Jobs Karma he wants
and Cancer Karma to share with anyone who
needs them.
Yes, F Cancer Karma, obviously.
Jobs.
What did I say?
Jobs.
He said Cancer Karma.
Jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma.
And before you read the next note, I
will mention that it got kicked back by
the bank.
Oh, this donation from Bob?
Yeah, because the bank, all of a sudden,
because of their new service agreements with whoever
they're doing this with, won't take Canadian checks.
Well, that's an outrage.
That's what I say.
I'm going to get a hold of the
CEO of the bank and complain about this.
Weren't they bought by some big Dutch bank?
No, no, no.
They've been buying banks.
Oh, well, yes.
And I want you to record this and
we'll air this interview.
It's an outrage.
We promote checks.
We do promote checks.
I mean, I don't want to tell Bob
he has to send his, you know, go
back to Stripe or PayPal.
Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin.
Well, he could do that too.
Bob Stanhope sends us $333.33. He says,
greetings from Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada, land
of the free, dot, dot, dot.
Keeping it old school with a note and
a check while we still can.
Well, there you go.
Yeah, 333 is actually less than 250.
Oh, yeah, it's like 50 bucks, but it
doesn't matter.
Yeah, no.
It's been over a year since my last
donation.
Please accept this humble token of appreciation, the
amount of $333.33 for a job well
done.
We love the show.
Best podcast in the universe, without a doubt.
No jingles, good karma for all.
Adam, keep the faith, literally and figuratively.
John, keep it crusty and real.
We love it.
Stay dangerous, men.
We appreciate the effort.
Bob Stanhope, a bike riding guy in the
boundary.
You've got karma.
Now we come to Harry Klan in Aledo,
Aledo, Texas, who also writes in a note,
handwritten note.
Adam and John, $300.
He says, hello, I decided to kick off
2026 as both an executive producer and a
knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
I think he's on the list.
He is.
This donation puts me over the top for
knighthood accounting attached.
I stopped watching TV news and reading physical
newspapers more than 30 years ago.
Since 2009, the No Agenda podcast has been
my source for news and more importantly, media
deconstruction.
Can I just say something here?
More and more people email me and say,
you know, I stopped following news.
I don't watch stuff on Instagram or X
or I just stopped it.
I find that the No Agenda show will
give me the stuff that's at the top,
the top of, you know, the cream of
the crop.
And we, you know, we dig down under
to bring up the nasty stuff, to show
you what it's really all about.
And they feel informed and happy, happy with
their lives, I tell you.
And I think that's a very good way
to live.
You're not distracted by the propagandists.
Yes.
Which we, we're not working for anybody to
do that stuff.
And they whistle and laugh a lot because
they hear racist videos.
Then they go, OK, I know better than
you.
I know what's really going on.
Midterms.
He continues.
The two of you are national treasures and
I'm honored to be a citizen of Gitmo
Nation and producer of the best podcast in
the universe.
For more years, sincerely, Henry, Harry Klan.
He's also Sir Sauerkraut of the North Texas
Anita's.
What does that mean?
What's an Anita?
What's a Texas Anita?
Eh, it's probably some snack.
I don't know.
By the way, the word editor calculated my
note to be just 115 words, John.
Smiley face.
Beautiful.
Sean Holman, Nome, Indiana.
Not new to the donation list.
$219 and 11.
Get it.
1911 because Stealth Arms has a new pistol
out.
Check it out at Stealth Arms dot net.
By the way, it has been acclaimed as
the best competition pistol under $2500 and takes
Glock mags, the double stacked Glock mags.
I actually shot my platypus from Stealth Arms
the other day and it jammed.
I'd never shot it.
Yeah, jammed right out of the gate.
Yeah, it was.
Yeah, it shot really well, but it jammed
right out of the gate.
But that is not to say.
So you cleared the jam and it shot
fine after that?
Of course, of course.
It could have been the ammo, but I
mean, I presumed it was oiled enough.
It was new in the box.
I didn't figure I'd have to do anything
with it.
Maybe that was my mistake.
I don't know.
What would the bow shield T9 would do?
Good question.
All right, where are we?
We're at Sir Johnny B in Brockport, New
York, 21426.
My beautiful wife, Dame Polly of 24 years,
21426.
And we have two of them today.
Yes, that's the Valentine's Day donation.
Yes, official Valentine's Day donation.
My beautiful wife, Dame Polly of 24 years.
Looking forward to the rest of them.
The rest of them.
The years, I guess.
The love, Sir Johnny B.
OK, yes, wonderful.
Sir Dr. Sharkey, St. Peter's, Missouri, 21426.
There's our second of only two Valentine's Day
donations.
I dedicate this to my two grand human
resources.
Love, Pawpaw, Sir Dr. Sharkey, Duke and Secretary
General of FEMA Region 4 and 7.
And there we go on to Junonymous in
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 21060.
Junonymous.
Emailed Adam again regarding Tel Aviv.
Anonymous Jew, anonymous donation.
I got something.
I got his email.
You know, so I said we're doing it.
We're going to go to Israel the end
of the month, beginning of March.
And I will be doing some shows from
Israel.
Going to go pick up some Jew money,
get the Mossad money, get the shekels.
We need the Mossad money.
Where are those guys?
And he sent me a long list of
stuff to do in Tel Aviv, which I
appreciate that.
Thank you.
And he says, anonymous, anonymous, anonymous donation.
Bring out my brethren, the shape-shifting Jews
from my knighthood.
In other words, he wants that clip.
Knight name circumcision.
And you get a circumcision and you get
a circumcision and you.
Oh, I get it.
He's doing Oprah.
You get a circumcision and you get a
circumcision.
All right.
We get it.
Now we go to the shape
-shifting Jews.
Gotta love the trolls.
All the gay bars in Tel Aviv are
on alert.
Adam's coming.
All right.
Very funny.
Funny trolls.
Robert Ludwig in Nevada, Iowa, Nevada, Iowa, 207
and 20 cents.
And he has no notes.
So he receives a double up karma.
You've got karma.
Ah, here we go.
Bensonville, Illinois.
We got Eli, the coffee guy.
202, 08.
I had an impromptu meet up on Saturday
with Darren.
Oh, wow.
The host of the rock and roll pre
-show and planned it raised up by one
of our brewery marketing events or market events.
He was trolling for free coffee.
Of course he was.
Thank you, Adam and John, for connecting all
of us.
Producers.
I met some of the very fine, some
very fine people over the years, both online
and in person.
Thanks to no agenda.
I've also been blessed to share our coffee
with people all over.
Get more nation visit.
Give go out.
Coffee roasters dot com.
Use code itm 20 and sharing the joy
of great coffee today.
Stay caffeinated.
Eli, the coffee guy should mention.
He also sent me a separate note because
he's sending me some more coffee demanding that
I stop playing as opposed to the other
producer.
He Eli's demanded.
I stop playing the tick tock clips.
Oh, and so I'm agreeing to not play
a tick tock clip for one show for
every bag of coffee.
Wow, that's a good day.
So so the next three shows I'm getting
no pilot on.
All right.
Well, there you go.
Mike Duffy, Blenheim in New Zealand.
Two hundred dollars and 51 cents of these.
Oh, so that is.
Oh, he he's it's a three hundred and
thirty three.
Thirty three New Zealand dollar reduce.
So we will give it.
We will put him up in the.
Wow.
Yeah, we will put him up in the.
That's quite the exchange rate, isn't it?
Two hundred dollars and one cents.
Love the show.
Business karma, please.
Flores hot dogs.
Blenheim, New Zealand, the best hot dogs in
the universe.
Well, can he send those?
I'd love to try some.
Can we can you can you get him
across country?
Sending me sending me customs is very difficult.
Well, anyway, Flores hot dogs.
Blenheim, New Zealand.
Here's your business karma.
You've got karma.
Sir Gooch in Boonesboro, Maryland.
Two hundred as a birthday switcheroo for monkey
boy in Indianapolis.
We can no longer be friends in good
conscience without getting him a D douching.
Yes, you've been D douched.
Signed Sir Gooch in Maryland.
Oh, was that it?
I'm sorry.
That's it.
Oh, there is.
OK, hold on a second.
I was getting something ready here because we
have a switcheroo.
And is this from the Indy no agenda
raffle in Greenwood?
But it's a switcheroo for Annette Miller.
Now, Annette also does the the meetup reports.
We have one from them from the most
recent one.
She says, ITM, John, I don't think you
both are being a constant source of insight
and sanity in this crazy world.
Shout out to Sir Ryan, who let me
down the no agenda rabbit hole and to
the Indy meetup crew for always being great
company there.
Can I please get a fear is freedom,
followed by a boogity, boogity, boogity?
Yes, I have a boogity boogity for you.
Amen.
Yes.
Thank you very much, says Annette Miller.
Annette, thank you for always sending the fantastic
meetup reports from Indy.
Fear is freedom.
Subjugation is liberation.
Contradiction is truth.
Those are the facts of this world.
And you will all surrender to them.
You pigs in human clothing.
Boom.
There we go.
Lou Patkins up.
She's in Castle Rock, Colorado.
Two hundred dollars.
You do have the best producers in the
universe.
Shout out to gigawatt coffee.
I love this.
It's beautiful.
I love it.
Love it.
Shout out to gigawatt coffee and Little John's
Candies.
Their coffee and toffee is fantastic.
Now, this for a competitive edge that gets
with a resume that gets results.
By the way, she wants his jobs, Carmen,
but she didn't mention.
Yeah, we know what she deserves for a
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Go to ImageMakersInc.com.
Linda applies executive level positioning to her career
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That's ImageMakersInc with a K and work with
Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs, writer of winning
resumes.
Jobs, Carmen, please.
Oh, she does mention it at the end.
Best, Linda.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Karma.
All righty.
That wraps up our executive and associate executive
producers for episode 1842 of the best podcast
in the universe.
We thank you all very much.
We will be thanking the rest of our
supporters, $50 and above in our second segment.
Again, these are real credits and anybody can
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If you have a sustained donation, we recommend
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So it's noagendadonations.com anytime, any frequency.
And thank you again to these executive and
associate executive producers.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the
mouth.
I fixed it, fixed all those problems we
were having with the, we are on the
people's operating system, John.
I'm so happy.
I'm so proud.
But what did you fix?
It was fine last time.
No, remember the new world order wouldn't play
and they're all.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
The cart wall was broke, man, but we
fixed it.
I fixed it.
I figured it out.
You know, it was a very simple fix.
And then the AI like recreated the whole
thing.
And then it broke a whole bunch of
other things.
I said, you broke this.
Okay, fix.
You broke that fix.
Okay.
And then it made the sliders a whole
different color for no reason.
Out of the blue.
And they look cute because it has a
little metallic finish to it.
Like, oh, that's cool.
But I didn't ask for it.
These are the things that are annoying.
Just a little bit annoying.
There you go.
Hey, there was a rather big news.
And in the climate change arena, as President
Trump, I think it's happening today, will be
revoking the Environmental Protection Agency's authority to regulate
carbon emissions by taking it off the list
of things that are dangerous to your health.
CO2 in particular.
They say carbon emissions, but it's CO2, which
is a life-giving force.
But was that during Obama?
When did it?
Well, maybe it's in this report.
Here's CBS.
The Trump administration is preparing what environmental experts
are calling one of the most sweeping regulatory
rollbacks in modern history.
The president plans to revoke the EPA's legal
authority to regulate carbon emissions on Thursday.
That's the tricky bit.
They say carbon emissions.
No, it's not carbon emissions.
It is specifically carbon dioxide.
You see what they're doing there?
They've been doing this for the length of
the entire era of our show.
Correct.
EPA's legal authority to regulate carbon emissions on
Thursday.
If it's withdrawn, it could upend decades of
U.S. climate policy.
CBS News national environmental correspondent David Schuchter joins
us now.
David, we're talking about something called endangerment finding.
Why does that matter?
It's a kind of a bulky term, but
it actually has incredible significance when it comes
to environmental regulation.
It basically says that it finds that the
emissions from our tailpipes and stuff that create
carbon dioxide, that that is a pollutant and
that pollutant can be regulated by the United
States government.
So it is the underpinning of all the
federal policy as it relates to trying to
get a handle on climate change.
And by revoking that or essentially not enforcing
that rule anymore, that would mean that things
like our tailpipe emissions that come out of
our vehicles that the government is is very
involved in regulating.
All of a sudden, they wouldn't regulate that
anymore.
That is up to 20 percent of our
carbon emissions in this country comes from that
source, which the Trump administration says we're no
longer going to regulate.
Notice they just take you straight to the
dirty, dirty tailpipes, not to the cow farts,
the cow burps.
Well, actually, the beginning when he said I
tried to interrupt it.
I know he didn't.
I'm sorry, I didn't hear you.
He said the tailpipe emissions, which form carbon
dioxide.
What he said, he said, which form carbon
dioxide very early in the clip.
I'm sorry I missed that.
Well, that's it's bogus, but that's CBS.
Barry Weiss, everybody.
Why is he doing this?
What could it possibly be?
Because it's a hoax.
Yes.
You know, there's been a bunch of I
don't have any of the clips.
I suppose I could.
I'm going to get some now.
I'm going to start collecting them.
There's more and more and more clips coming
on Twitter and TikTok and elsewhere about CBS
is skewed reporting.
It's getting worse, not better under Barry Weiss.
Yeah, I mean, this doesn't seem like it.
This is certainly not pro Trump.
And we were here when the IPCC first
came out.
We were here with the whole scandal.
Remember the climate change papers?
What was that called?
Climate gate.
We have a jingle.
Oh, man, we got the climate.
To the gate, to the gate, to the
climate gate.
Yeah, hold on a second.
For some reason, my keyboard is doubling keys,
which is not good.
Here we go.
To the gate, to the gate, to the
climate gate.
Yeah, we and was the the climate gate,
the papers.
It was all they were.
They were telling each other, just use this
hockey stick.
I am paraphrasing.
Yeah, they were both.
They were faking phoning up numbers.
Well, it doesn't work.
So let's use these numbers.
Instead, they were making stuff up as they
go along.
It was a huge setback for the old
the entire scam.
And it finally kind of blew over after
a decade.
Well, because they just kept saying it's not
true.
You know, it's talking about Andrew.
Andrew, his name was this guy, Andrew climate
gate.
And I can't remember his last name.
And then it was the consensus model.
Ninety seven percent of scientists agree.
And it was it was one survey.
It was 97 percent of climate scientists.
It wasn't all scientists, but it was 90
percent of climate scientists who believed in climate
change, climate change, global warming at the time,
global warming, global warming.
And then we had to switch the climate
change because and in the beginning was a
weather is not climate where there's not climate
because it's really chilly for this global warming
weather climate.
And then we got climate change out, extreme
weather events in our lifetime, in the lifetime
of this show.
This hoax.
Why is he doing this?
I think that you hear in the Trump
administration of obviously a very strong need to
a strong desire to deregulate that regulations are
onerous on businesses, cost them a lot of
money and therefore cost consumers a lot of
money.
We did hear today from Carolyn Lovett, his
press secretary, that he's going to announce this
on Thursday.
And it sounds like it's also being framed
in the affordability sort of argument that we're
hearing from the White House that by doing
this, they're saying they will save consumers a
lot of money on the cost of a
new car and other things that is deeply
contested.
That in fact, the more we release carbon
dioxide, the more costs we incur from fires
and fires and drought weather.
The more carbon dioxide we release, we release
carbon dioxide.
The more costs we incur from fires and
fires and droughts and floods and things like
that.
Fires and droughts and floods are caused by
carbon dioxide and lions and tigers and floods
and droughts, floods and droughts.
Oh, but what are the scientists say about
this?
What are environmental advocates saying about this expected
rollback?
I heard today from the Union of Concerned
Scientists.
They said the Union of Concerned Scientists.
You know what?
They're concerned.
I want to know how I can join.
Union of Concerned Scientists.
They said that this is a chainsaw taken
to science based policy saying that it's done
at the behest of the polluters, the oil
companies.
The polluters, advocates, these nonprofits that are in
the environmental space are just lining up to
sue the Trump administration when this announcement is
made.
So you can expect that that lawsuit could
go on for a long time.
But the question is, will the administration just
start to not enforce these rules right away,
regardless of what the lawsuits say?
Yes, it's already happening and it will lower
energy prices.
Of course, it's not going to be for
the data centers, but.
Or it won't lower energy prices out here
in California.
Well, no, it's California.
It's all about the coal.
This crowd of coal miners made an enthusiastic
audience for Donald Trump as he announced his
pro fossil fuel agenda.
On Wednesday, the president said that the U
.S. Army will in future give priority to
electricity derived from coal.
Clean, beautiful coal.
We're going to be buying a lot of
coal through the military now, and it's going
to be less expensive and actually much more
effective than what we have been using for
many, many years.
Since the start of his second term, Trump
has done everything in his power to relaunch
the coal industry, providing financial support to plants
which may otherwise have closed.
And in April, rolling back some regulations.
We're going to be crushing Biden era environmental
restrictions.
These are restrictions that made it impossible, impossible
to do anything having to do, frankly, with
energy, even beyond coal.
Trump says coal should be used to power
the energy hungry data centers used by artificial
intelligence models.
His agenda is a reversal of previous trends
in the U.S. In 2023, coal made
up 16 percent of total energy production, down
from 50 percent in the year 2000.
The polluting fossil fuel has been gradually replaced
by renewable energy forms, which, according to scientific
consensus, are better for the environment and can
be less expensive to produce.
Who is this reporter?
Yes, France 24.
I'm bored with it.
You know how it ends.
I just want to play two short clips
because we always like to follow the words
like carbon emissions when it's really about carbon
dioxide.
And this is regarding plants need to survive.
It's life force itself.
This is a narrative that you will notice
changing once you hear it.
You can't unhear it.
This quick clip, 15 seconds came from CNN.
I believe this lady was a protester against
ICE, and she caught herself because she has
been given new directive, new words to use,
which have been adopted by the mainstream media,
the M5M.
There was probably four people that were at
one point in time following.
I shouldn't say following.
I should say commuting.
Sounds much better than following.
We were commuting.
You guys try to stay away from that
language these days?
Yes.
So you don't want to say you're following
ICE.
You're just commuting.
You see, you're commuting.
Here's NPR.
I think they had a take on it.
It was the one month anniversary of the
death of Renee Good, who was shot while
slowly driving away from immigration officers.
OK, there you go.
There's your mainstream media.
There it is.
Slowly driving away, commuting.
It's all so bad.
I love these guys.
It's all so bad.
You may have a clip.
There was just one.
I'll save it for Sunday.
I got a great Gen Z email, but
I'll save it.
Because some Gen Zers think that when we
laugh about Florida ounces and stuff, that we
think they're morons.
No, some are, like all categories of people.
There's some very specific ones.
But when I hear about Gen Zs who
are, first of all, listening to the show
since 2019, love the concept of a sock
hop and have a vocation, you know, we
have a lot of hope in Gen Z.
We are here to, in fact, help educate
you on the things you don't know about
and to set you up for success.
To help educate them on the things that
they are kept away from.
Yes, yes, yes.
Obfuscated from them.
Exactly.
Yeah.
All right.
They've got to, they've come to the right
place.
And we're not mocking, we are mocking the
ones that don't, that are, you know, there
are, they know who, they're included.
They know the dummies out there.
You know who you are.
They're friends.
You know who you are.
A couple of random clips.
I thought this, the jet fuel Cuba thing
should be mentioned.
I think this is kind of interesting.
Okay.
Because I have a question about it.
All right, here we go.
Cuba is warning international airlines that jet fuel
will no longer be available on the island
starting today.
It's the latest sign of worsening conditions as
the U.S. is cutting off the communist
-run nation's oil supply.
And today's international correspondent, Arian Pazdar.
Cuba is issuing a notice to airlines saying
jet fuel is no longer available on the
island.
The nation is implementing a fuel rationing plan
as the U.S. is cutting off the
communist-run nation's oil supply.
Urgent measures must be taken because people who
are going to travel far away, if there
is no fuel, I don't know if their
flights will be canceled.
Cuba has historically relied on Venezuela to provide
most of its jet fuel.
But the nation has not received any oil
from its top allies since mid-December, when
the U.S. moved to block the South
American nation's exports.
In late January, President Trump signed an executive
order to impose a tariff on countries that
sell or provide oil to Cuba.
On Monday, Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum confirmed that
oil shipments from Mexico to Cuba have been
halted.
But she says Mexico still seeks to support
the people of Cuba.
Two vessels carrying around 800 tons of humanitarian
aid deported Mexico on Sunday to support the
island.
We're going to help the people of Cuba,
as we've always helped at any time peoples
who need it.
And now food was sent mainly, and more
is going to be sent.
The fuel shortage is strongly affecting everyday life
in Cuba.
Congresswoman Maria Salazar warns, do not travel to
Cuba.
Oops, sorry.
Medicine only blackouts hunger and repression.
Don't risk your safety.
A regime in its final hours is unpredictable
and dangerous.
All right, what's your question?
Well, the regime in this fight, what do
we got against Cuba that we're taking such
extreme steps here?
Because it's never explained.
Somebody brought it up on one of these
talk shows.
I said, what's this thing with Cuba?
They haven't attacked us.
They haven't done anything.
They're just sitting there, you know, languishing, basically.
So what's the big deal?
I have to say there's something we're not
being told about.
It's got to be.
And I think it's China.
I think China, we've talked about it before.
Yep.
Some years ago, they're going to try to
put up bases, monitoring bases.
China's been trying to establish those in Cuba.
And for some reason, this information is being
now not discussed at all.
There's something up.
Well, since you're on oil and other countries,
I have a question for you regarding this.
Bloomberg reports that for the first time in
years, Venezuela is sending its first crude oil
shipment to Israel.
That shipment comes just under a month after
the U.S. captured the country's former leader,
Nicolas Maduro.
Since Maduro's takedown and the subsequent U.S.
takeover of Venezuela's oil sales, Brent and crude
have been on a tear.
Brent crude up 10 and a quarter percent,
while West Texas intermediate up 9 percent.
The oil shipment to Israel comes just as
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu flies to Washington
for a meeting with President Trump tomorrow in
a bid to influence U.S. nuclear talks
with Iran.
This meeting comes also amid heightening Iranian threats
about the Strait of Hormuz.
It's that important choke point for the world's
crucial oil transfer.
Now, here's my question.
Does Israel have refining capability for- Not
that I know of.
Iranian oil, I mean, Venezuelan oil?
This makes no sense to me.
It makes no sense to me either because
Venezuelan oil is a very specific heavy crude.
Yeah.
That has a lot of, you know, it
has a lot of things you can do
with it, mainly asphalt that you can get
out of there.
And it has other properties that are unusual.
And you'd take specialized refiners, which we have,
China has.
There's other, they're around here.
I mean, I suppose- I think this
is bullcrap.
It sounds like bullcrap to me.
What are they going to do with the
crude?
Are they going to use it for-
I don't know.
I mean, what would they use it for?
I mean, they don't have refineries in Israel
that I know of.
Maybe there is one.
Ask the robot if there's a refinery in
Israel.
I don't have the robot queued up.
Oh, because the robot doesn't speak in Linux.
No, the robot speaks Linux just fine.
I forgot to set her up.
But the point, because people were posting this
on X like, I bet they won't talk
about this.
I'm like, yeah, we will because I don't
get it.
It makes no sense.
I mean, we, America, America, we are the,
we are the, we are the ones who
know this stuff.
We understand.
We understand crude oil from Venezuela.
And let me ask the robot.
Let me see.
Will this, oh, the robot all of a
sudden is talking to me in Dutch.
This is interesting.
Hoe kan ik u vandaag helpen?
Okay.
Wow.
Why does this- You can talk to
it in Dutch.
You can speak Dutch, Tom.
Ask it in Dutch, see what it says.
Hold on, I just, I just want to
get an answer.
This will be the, this is the grok
bot.
I don't have a- The grok, grok
is, I like grok.
Yeah.
But what is, this thing is, chat, chat.
Here we go, chat.
Okay.
Does Israel, yes, allow.
Does Israel have refineries that can handle Venezuelan
oil?
Israel does have refineries like the one in
Haifa run by Bazan Energy.
It can process heavy crude oil, which Venezuelan
oil tends to be.
Stuff like mary that's high in sulfur and
needs specific handling.
But they've been picky lately due to quality
issues and geopolitics.
From what I know up to my cutoff,
Israel hasn't imported Venezuelan oil since sanctions kicked
in around 2018.
And even before that, it wasn't a big
deal.
They'd need upgrades or blending to make it
work smoothly now.
There you go.
That's interesting.
Okay, so Haifa, which is up, I think,
north.
Yes.
Yeah, that'd be a place for it on
the water there.
They got a coastal.
You need access to the water so you
can bring the tankers in, obviously.
So have they upgraded?
Have they upgraded to do this?
I guess.
Well, I think you can blend back this
stuff.
People have talked about that.
Well, there you go.
Well, it's obvious.
You mix it with something else.
Look, it's obvious Mossad is controlling Trump.
That's why he had to send some Venezuelan
oil to Israel.
Just so you know, that is what's going
on here.
You know, some of these refineries are designed
around the crude oil.
Generally, there's general purpose refineries that can handle
everything, and they're built that way, and they're
huge.
And then some refineries are specific to, they
just specialize in certain kinds of oil because
they're good at it.
And if you've got a thing that can
take sulfur out and handle all the heavy
stuff and has the catalytic cracking and all
the rest of it, that you need that
oil to keep things going properly.
Another question.
How much did Israel pay the United States
for this crude oil?
In a perfect world, trade's about fair deals.
No one's getting handouts.
But geopolitics?
That's messier.
If Israel's buying Venezuelan crude rerouted through the
U.S. You don't have an answer.
Shut up.
Yeah.
Doesn't have an answer.
You're ad-libbing.
I want a price.
She's freewheeling.
She's going on and on.
All right.
You got a final clip you want to
play?
Or what do you want?
Well, let's see.
I can come up with a shorty here,
I think.
Well, the Canadian bridge story should be, at
least we can catch up on this.
This is kind of interesting.
If you're not letting the bridge, you've got
a bridge, then they're outworked, and Trump doesn't
want the bridge to work.
Canada reels from one of the worst mass
shootings in its history.
Police named the suspect as 18-year-old
Jesse Van Vertselaar.
Eight people were killed.
You're playing.
I'm playing trans.
I'm sorry.
It's the wrong one.
No, no, Canada Bridge.
I saw it.
Yes, I thought it was all BBC, but
it's NTD.
It's my mistake.
The trans bridge is the problem.
President threatening to block the opening of a
bridge connecting the U.S. and Canada as
he warns Ottawa of cozying up to the
Chinese regime.
We now go live to NTD's Washington correspondent
Mario Tsu at the White House.
Mari, good evening.
President Trump threatens to block the opening of
a bridge between the U.S. and Canada
unless Ottawa negotiates with Washington on tariffs and
the exclusion of American products.
He accuses Canada of taking advantage of the
U.S. with unfair trade practices and cozying
up to the Chinese regime.
The fact that Canada will control what crosses
the Gordie Howe Bridge and owns the land
on both sides is unacceptable to the president.
It's also unacceptable that more of this bridge
isn't being built with more American-made materials,
even more so than what President Barack Obama
committed to with the Canadians at the time,
at the start of the project.
Canada gets a lot of freebies from us,
by the way.
They should be grateful also, but they're not.
Canada lives because of the United States.
Canada's Prime Minister Mark Carney says he's spoken
with President Trump after the president issued that
threat and that the situation will be resolved,
although he didn't give further details.
And this is coming just a couple weeks
after President Trump threatened 100% tariffs on
Canada if they made a deal with the
Chinese regime.
Tiff, back to you.
Is that true?
Does Canada own the land on both sides
of the bridge?
I don't think it makes any sense.
I thought Michigan owned the land on one
side.
This is just another, like, Greenland thing.
Screw you about this story.
Well, I agree.
I mean, you know, Canada needs to pay
us no matter what.
Just pay us.
Just because Trump says so, pay us.
It's our country.
Obviously, they're not going to build a bridge
that crosses the border there and just let
it sit empty.
You can't do that, because there's already a
jam up on that bridge in Windsor.
There's got to be something else behind this.
There's something else going on.
We don't get told enough stuff.
Well, we don't get told enough stuff.
We do have a few people to thank
for show 1841 and 1842.
And Adam will read them off.
These are the people that donated $50 and
above.
Dame Rita comes in from Sparks, Nevada, with
$162.14. I see the 2.14. I
guess that's Valentine's.
ITM John, thank you for your courage.
Yes.
Eric Blazinski, Midlothian, Virginia, $149.99. Great interview
with Scott Adams.
John is a master interviewer.
I don't know about that.
You sounded very light.
You sounded like you didn't have your normal
heavy, heavy processing that I give you, the
big balls.
Geek rolling.
I could have corrected that.
I just didn't do it.
Yeah, a bit lazy.
Geek rolling.
Pasadena, California, $144.
Michael Shelton, Hannibal, New York, $125.
Russell Rhodes in Tallahassee, Florida, $123.45. We
see what you did.
Same thing for Sir Slickwater of the Mississippi,
$123.45. And Ashley Ostgen, there we go,
in Flower Mound, Texas, also $123.45. Christopher
Ebert, Spartanburg, South Carolina, $105.35. Stefan Trockels,
Trockels from Suess in Deutschland, $0.02. Thank
you for each episode, $100.01 and $100.
Let's boost him to Associate Executive Producer.
Yes, I agree.
That is correct.
Let me just mark that on my spreadsheet.
Craig Martin, Homer, Alaska, $100.
Charles Meebach in Wontog, New Jersey, $88.35.
Kev McLaughlin comes in twice for both shows
with a boob donation, $80.08. And he's
the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and
boobs.
His first one is God Bless America and
Valentine's Sweater Puppies.
And he says, ladies, wishing you all the
breast.
Okay.
Christopher Baylor, Grafton, Wisconsin, $77.77. Joel VanDick,
I'm 34 on Valentine's.
This donation is my gift to myself.
Thank you for your courage.
Value returned.
Yes, we shall mention you're on the list.
Gwen Sobieski, Kettering, Ohio, $67.
Chad Hewitt, Folsom, California, $66.40. Stephen Shoemake
in Xenia, Ohio, $64.80. David Cox, Austin,
Texas, $63.25. School of Podcasting.
Hey, the School of Podcasting.
Is that Dave?
It must be Dave from the School of
Podcasting.
Akron, Ohio, $61.
Thank you, Dave.
Lawrence Allar in Cochran, Minnesota, $58.
Timothy Tillman from Mechanicsville, Virginia, $56.83. And
then we go to Christina Henry.
Ah, she's a dame.
Deputy, Indiana.
This little, $55.95, which it is.
And my measly little monthly donation gets me
to baronetta status and lets me wish Charlie
a happy 50th birthday.
Charlie turns 50 on Friday the 13th.
He finally caught up to me in the
50s.
And they're both lovely people.
Christine Hines, Manchester, New Hampshire, $55.55. Rick
LaBlanca in Hope, Rhode Island.
We don't get a lot from Rhode Island.
$54.32. And here we have Brittany Miller
from Trinidad, Colorado.
And it's blue, which means she's got something
coming up here.
ITM John Adam, apparently, as of January 7th.
I'm a dame.
The layaway plan works.
My smoking hot husband hit me in the
mouth a few years ago on a road
trip where I was a captive audience.
To be honest, I only agreed to listen
because I'm a child of the 80s and
90s MTV.
Thanks for teaching me not to believe everything
I read.
Hey, it's good for something.
You know what I'm going to say?
You know what I'm saying here?
Hold on.
She wants some jingles here.
My keyboard is doubling letters.
Have you ever had that?
This is Linux.
Doubling your value.
Let me see.
Kamala.
It's yeah, it's doing like.
That was auto bounce.
That's so weird.
Hmm.
I'm not sure why it's doing the auto
bounce.
Anyway, thanks for teaching me not to believe
everything I read.
I'd love a Publix sub and Diet Coke
at the round table.
I have to order that.
I haven't even put that in yet.
Can you guys still take care of that?
Publix sub and Diet Coke?
Yeah.
Uh wow, I am.
Do you think that is Linux?
That Linux is doubling up on this stuff?
Yeah, it's your it's your sense of humor
that the AI has.
Hey, watch this.
Jingles, please.
Kamala, don't come.
Trump, I'm going to come.
Thanks, Dame Brittany, Trinidad, Colorado.
Do not come.
I'm going to come.
There you go.
Bradley Bowman in Duluth, Minnesota.
5218.
Sir GK in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Sir GK here.
Turning 51 on February 8th.
Please add me to the birthday list.
Yeah, of course, we couldn't do you on
the last show, but you're on it for
today.
The Librarian in San Francisco, California.
5150 from the Librarian.
Mike Vaughn, Village of Clarkston, Michigan.
Birthday shout out to human resource number one.
Lucas, born on 2725 and wants some baby
making karma.
I will give you that at the end.
Would love to do that for you.
Josiah Thomas, Ankeny, Iowa.
51.
Bad Idea Supply.
There they are.
Bad Idea Supply in...
Where's Bad Idea Supply?
It's in the Midwest someplace.
Look him up on the internet.
Bad Idea Supply.
They make burning gear.
Yes, they...
For burners or just burning gear for fun
stuff?
Like, you know, burn barrel, professional grade burn
barrel kind of things.
Things you can burn with.
Viscounts, your economic hitman in Tomball, Texas.
$50 and one penny.
These are the 50s as we roll to
them now.
We've got Stephen Ray, Spokane, Washington.
Edward Mazurek, Memphis, Tennessee.
Lee Harwood in Melbourne, Victoria.
Joy Padilla in South San Francisco.
Rene Knighe in Utrecht.
Roderick Brown in Mermaid.
Prince Edward Island in Canada.
I knew I'd get it.
And there's Stephen Shoemake again from Zeni, Ohio
with 50.
Thank you, Stephen.
Tim Delbecchio, Blandon, Pennsylvania.
Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, California.
Carrie Jackson, Watertown, Tennessee.
High Hawker in Higginsville, Missouri.
And rounding out our list of 50s is
Ox Utherix in Buffalo, New York.
We thank all of these supporters.
$50 and above.
Very much for your support of the best
podcasts in the universe.
Here's that baby making karma as requested.
You've got karma.
Beautiful.
And we do have quite a number of
fun things to take care of today on
the list, including that beautiful meetup report.
But again, thanks to these supporters and our
executive and associate executive producers.
Set up a value for value donation.
Go to noagendadonations.com.
Send us whatever value you got out of
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That's all we ask for.
Do it as frequently as you want for
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And so here's our list.
Mike Vaughn, happy birthday to his human resource
number one, Lucas, who turned one on February
7th.
Joe wishes the Baron of Old Bay a
happy birthday, 59, on February 8th.
Sir Gooch, monkey boy, happy birthday for him,
February 8th.
Sir GK turned 51 on February 8th.
Dame Catherine wishes her late husband Bill Walsh,
aka Sir Saturday Night, a very happy birthday.
He would have been 45 on February 8th.
I have a note to read from her
later.
Kevin McKenna wishes his son, Grace, a very
happy 11th, celebrated on the 10th.
Christina Henry, happy birthday to Charlie, turning 50
on Friday the 13th.
Luke Brown, his smoking hot wife, Abby, celebrates
on Valentine's Day the 14th.
And Joel VanDick turns 34 on Valentine's Day.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best
podcast in the universe.
Yeah, we got a title change.
You heard it.
Dame Christina Henry becomes a baroness today.
And it looks mighty handsome on you, Dame
Christina Henry.
That sash looks just dynamite.
Congratulations.
And thank you for supporting the best podcast
in the universe.
Then we have a knight, two knights, and
one dame to bring up.
So if we can get our swords for
a second.
Where's my swords?
There we go.
Wow.
There we go.
Here's one.
Oh, that's, oh, that's a pretty one.
I like that.
Up on the podium, Brittany Miller, Harry Klan,
and June Nonomous.
All three of you have reached that wonderful
status of knights and dame of the Noah
Jenner Round Table.
I'm very proud to pronounce the KB as
Dame Brittany, Sir Sauerkraut of the North Texas
and circumcision for you.
We have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and
Chardonnay.
We have Public Sub and Diet Coke.
We've got Harlots and Algal, Pepperoni Rolls and
Pale Ales.
We got Redheads and Ryes.
We got our organic macaroni and plasticizers, beer
and blunts.
We got Geishas and Sake, Breast Milk and
Palming, Ginger Ale and Gerbils.
And of course, we always have some mutton
and mead at the Round Table.
Go to NoahJennerRings.com.
That is where you will be able to
look at the handsome ring that is good
for both dames and knights.
All we need from you is a ring
size so that we can send you the
proper rings, the properly sized ring.
And along with that, obviously, a certificate of
authenticity.
And it always comes with some wax to
seal your important correspondence.
We have a missed note from Sir Mr.
Bob Dabolina that was $350 donated in episode
1838.
He wrote his note of the 200 characters
allowed on PayPal.
I think we did this.
Didn't we talk about this?
That he said you didn't see it?
I don't remember.
Yes, it was.
I remember this because he said the state
of Florida tested 46 candies and found unacceptable
amount of arsenic in 28 of them.
Yes, I remember this.
We talked about it.
I don't remember us reading it.
I remember reading the note.
No, I'm pretty sure we read it on
the show.
Okay.
I could be wrong.
Does he have anything else in here?
No, I think we got all of that.
But then we had a Dame request from
Dame Catherine.
On January 4th, my husband's friend, Stefan, sent
in a note to share that my husband,
Bill Walsh, a.k.a. Sir Saturday Night,
died suddenly just before Christmas.
While his death was unexpected, so was our
friend's tribute.
I jolted from my seat when I heard
Bill's name and was so touched, despite Adam
calling him a douche in the next breath.
Oh, come on.
I think I was very nice about it.
And in fact, I said that it's always
interesting how the people who yell at us
the most actually love us the most.
And she says, yes, Bill indeed loved the
show, contributing his time, talent, and treasure as
often as possible.
Financially, he was a baronet working on his
way to baron status.
Our night and Dame rings were proudly used
in our 10-10 2020 wedding.
Otherwise, his efforts.
And developing the bones of a personal website
for John, about which Bill didn't hear back,
despite follow-up attempts.
I hope you feel bad, John.
He regularly competed in the weekly art contest
and recently developed a website, and the A
.I. Slop Songs promoted N.A. and Ashland
Speed.
Yes, he made the Ashland Speed as a
pop artist.
He was most proud of creating the John's
I Got Ants song some years ago and
would light up when someone requested the short
or long version of it with their donation.
Bill's life was cut too short at age
44.
His 45th birthday would fall on the next
show day, February 8th, 26.
I'm therefore requesting a posthumous birthday shout out.
Further, I'm also requesting that the full John's
I Got Ants song be played in his
honor at the end of the show, February
8th, 26, as he created it.
I will do that.
And then he asked, she asked, it's maybe
a long shot, but as Bill was chronically
online in communication with more Noah Jenner producers
than I even know, I wonder if the
link to his obituary newly posted on the
Funeral Home this week could be quietly included
in this episode's show notes.
Absolutely.
We'll take care of that.
And we already have three end of show
mixes, but I will put in the I've
Got Ants song for him in memory of
Bill.
And thank you so much for sending that
note, Dame Catherine.
I just love that they use their knight
and dame rings.
Yeah, that is cute.
That is very cute.
So we miss Strokey Bill, Sir Bill, as
we would miss anybody who leaves Gitmo Nation.
And God bless him.
You can join in any single time you
want, anytime you want to go meet some
people from Gitmo Nation, go to NoahJennerMeetups.com
to find out where these meetups take place.
One of them is in Indianapolis in Indy.
And here's Dame Annette Miller's Indy Meetup report.
Hi, this is Dame Trinity.
In the morning, having a great time in
Indy, surviving the brutal cold.
In the morning, John and Adam, Sir PBR
Street Gang, enjoying another conspiracy therapy session here
in Indy.
This is Katie from St. Joseph's Public House
and Brewery in downtown Indianapolis, serving the No
Agenda crew this Sunday.
In the morning, Stan Turner's alive.
Okay, always wonderful how you include your server.
All meetup reports should always include a server.
And there's one taking place on February 14th.
That's this Saturday, Valentine's Day, the Treasure Valley
Boise Meetup, three o'clock at the Old
State Saloon.
And on Sunday, our next show day, the
TMI EVAC Zone Card Game Meetup, 3.30
at Evergreen Brewing in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.
Also on Sunday, the East Texas Mid-Monthly
Meetup, and that'll be at 3.33 p
.m. at Rotolo's Pizzeria.
Dirty Jersey Whore will be hosting that.
Coming up in this month of February, Charlotte,
North Carolina, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Santa Cruz, California,
Long Beach, California, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Francisco,
and Prairieville, Louisiana.
There's many more in March, going all the
way into April and into May.
Go find them all at noagendameetups.com.
I believe April 11th will be another Fredericksburg
Meetup.
So I'm looking forward to that.
And so is Tima the Keeper.
Find out where all these meetups are taking
place, noagendameetups.com.
If you can't find one near you, here's
a very simple tip.
Start one yourself.
It's very easy and guaranteed a party.
Yeah, just like a party.
Party, party, party.
We have John's tip of the day coming
up and extended end of show mixes, including
the I Got Ants by Sir Bill.
But before we do that, we always like
to do a little bit of a man
versus the machine, see what ISOs we can
come up with for the end of the
show.
I see you have three.
Three, yes.
Do you want me to start as usual?
Yes, please.
Those two together is awesome.
Okay, I thought that was pretty good.
Those guys really brought the value today.
Yes, you're right.
That was AI.
Where'd you get that?
That was AI.
Where'd that come from?
That was AI.
Someone gave it to me.
It's AI.
AI, yeah.
Well, now you're saying it's not AI because
someone gave it to you.
So it doesn't count as AI.
I said it was AI.
It's AI.
After I asked.
Okay, this is not AI.
Oh, it's an Ogg file.
I can't play the Ogg file.
Ogg Vorbis.
Ogg Vorbis will not play.
Well, instead, let me play.
Let me see.
Do I have this?
Maybe this one.
No agenda is my guilty pleasure.
Donate.
Another.
Yeah, I knew you'd like it, but it's
AI.
I'm kind of low on the fact that
it was AI.
I like that one.
I know you like the donate part.
I know exactly what you like.
Well, I'm not an idiot.
No, you're not.
So here we go.
This is a real one.
We're switching roles because I have a real
clip here.
Here's the ISO nothing.
We learn nothing.
Okay.
True.
Also true.
Yes, true.
True.
Okay.
So here's where we go to the good
stuff.
Here's a Hoi Poloi.
Wow.
How can the Hoi Poloi ignore this podcast?
It needs to be quicker.
Okay, then we'll go to this one, which
is the last one I have, which is
drinks.
Excellent podcast as usual.
Drinks for everyone.
Yeah, see, I know you like mine better.
I know it because it says donate.
Here we go.
Let's listen to it again.
No agenda is my guilty pleasure.
Donate.
I mean, I know you like it.
I know that's what you want.
You want that to be the one at
the end of the show.
True or not?
What are you trying to hypnotize me?
Yeah.
And while we have decided that, let's do
the tip of the day.
Look, I have these things at the dinner
table and I'm thinking, yeah, I should make
a tip of the day.
Okay.
And these are the home memory LED taper
candles.
These are the flameless candles that have a
have a remote and a timer.
And, you know, I've been looking at these.
I've had him for a year.
I got him as a gift.
And I said, I don't want flameless candy,
stupid candles that are they flicker.
They look like candles and they seem like
candles and they're candles looking things.
And I've actually gotten so used to them.
I don't see why anyone would buy candles.
These things cost about the same amount per
candle, about three bucks a piece.
Candles and candles can be very expensive.
I find candles can move.
These are the tapers.
The ones I'm recommending are the stick candles
that go into a candle holder.
But they also you can also get the
big round giant candles that have a which
actually look even more realistic that are available.
Also, you can look at flameless candles on
Amazon or anywhere you want to go.
And I just recommend them.
I think they're fabulous.
A little remote control.
You need the remote control.
They have these at restaurants, except not with
the remote control.
They have them at restaurants.
No, but you can bring, you know, the
remote control is universal.
Oh, you bring it to the restaurant and
turn everyone's candle off.
Yeah, you good.
There's another tip of the day.
It's a sub tip of the day.
Bring the remote control to the restaurant and
just casually walk by and turn off the
candles.
Do you remember we used to do that
with remote controls and be turning off?
Yeah, the bar.
Turn off the TVs.
Remember when we were happy just messing with
the TV at the bar?
Remember, we didn't know where you knew what
candles now.
We didn't need tick tock.
We didn't need social media.
We just need a remote control for the
candles and that'll be fine.
These things in turn off some lights in
the can.
You know, the funny thing about having them
at the table is occasionally one of them
was just turn on out of the blue.
Yes.
Why would turn this?
You know, what kind of rays are coming
through the window?
Sounds like quality stuff from China is what
it's definitely quality stuff from China.
But if you don't have these candles, I
would I would recommend them as a cool
thing to own.
All right.
There it is.
Another fabulous tip of the day.
Find them all at noagendafund.com or tipoftheday
.net.
All right.
That concludes our show for today.
And we look forward.
Well, first of all, happy Valentine's Day, everybody.
I hope you have a good one and
do something nice for your loved one as
you should.
That's what you should be doing.
Absolutely.
Coming up next on the No Agenda stream,
brand new to the stream.
Oh, it's good to have Josh and the
crew from Disaffected.
This is a very, very good podcast.
Disaffected episode number 260.
Talking about the the nut jobs in America,
usually on TikTok.
This will be something you might want to
listen to, John.
He explains exactly how it works.
End of show mixes.
We've got...
Let me see.
We've got MKUltraMark.
We've got MVP.
And we also have Kylan.
There you go.
And of course, that ant song from Bill
Walsh.
Coming to you from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country, FEMA region number six in
the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I wish
everybody a happy Valentine's Day this Saturday.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
We'll be back on Sunday.
Remember us at noagendadonations.com.
Thank you for listening.
Until then, adios, mofos, hui hui, and such.
I'm reclaiming my time.
Order.
Frame of thought.
Goal I've sought.
I'll cut you off before the bird.
The rhythmic flow I must disturb.
Reclaiming my time.
I'm reclaiming my time.
Reclaiming my time.
You better hide your kids.
Hide your wife.
The transurrection has come tonight.
And when it's here, fear for your life.
Next time, try to get their pronouns right.
They cuss and curse because they're offended.
There's nothing worse than being misgendered.
And when they are, you better run far.
You know we are above God's children.
We're born complete and whole.
So close your hearts with me, God willing.
You gave us sacred souls.
You better hide your kids.
Hide your wife.
The transurrection is coming tonight.
Before their bodies are in the ground.
The media's debating about pronouns.
In clown world, the murderer must be honored.
How dare you deadening Jeffrey Dahmer?
And if you do, the bitch of us
might sue.
You know we are above God's children.
We're born complete and whole.
So close your hearts with me, God willing.
You gave us sacred souls.
You better hide your kids.
Hide your wife.
The transurrection is coming tonight.
There's someone living inside them, all right.
They lost the fights.
We're the parasite that drives the minds of
the infected.
It's why they ree at Ivermecte.
It ain't the truth.
It's always been worse.
You know we are above God's children.
We're born complete and whole.
So close your hearts with me, God willing.
You gave us sacred souls.
Your wine tips really knock it out of
the park every single time.
You should just do wine tips all the
time, as far as I'm concerned.
And it's called method, M-E-T-H
-O-D, method, M-E-T-H-O
-D, method.
And it's called method.
So this audience, they like the cheap stuff.
They like the cheap stuff.
It doesn't have mega purple in it.
You can tell by the core.
This hasn't been jacked up with a bunch
of chemical.
It's a California cabernet.
And it's called method, M-E-T-H
-O-D.
So this audience, they like the cheap stuff.
Well, you would never steer us wrong.
Thank you.
I got ants.
Uh, I don't know if we had, you
know, ants, we had ant invasion.
I was thinking, if you desiccated a big
pile of ants and then ground them to
a powder, like a fine, fine grind of
black pepper, we were having dinner and, uh,
yeah, I got an ant, uh, somehow in
the meal.
And I ate it.
These things are peppery.
I got ants.
These ants, they don't need a lot.
And then you see, you find all the
ones that are roaming around.
Although I backed them up by doing the
burning trick.
Just torch them.
And you leave them there.
The only ant, there are occasional moments where
there's an ant that you do not torch.
And that's an ant that's carrying one of
the dead ants back.
Ants.
Ants?
Ants!
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