I don't know, it could be a cholera
seed.
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Thursday, January 22nd, 2026.
This is your award-winning Kibble Nation Media
Assassination Episode 1836.
This is no agenda.
Preparing for snow, apocalypse 2.0, and broadcasting
live from the heart of the Texas Hill
Country here in FEMA Region No.
6.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where all the
old ladies are saying, hands off Greenland, why?
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
In the morning.
Well, before we even do anything, I mean,
this may be the last broadcast you hear
from me.
This may be the last time we ever
speak.
Yeah?
Snowpocalypse, the ice storm is coming.
We are definitely all going to die.
Not here.
It has been nonstop here.
Everybody's preparing.
Oh, you do?
I have a clip.
Wow, I have a clip, but I didn't
expect you to have a clip.
Where's your clip?
What's your clip?
I'm just looking at the clip list now.
It's the one that's got weather mentioned in
there somewhere.
Miserable weather.
A major winter storm is taking shape, expected
to bring the season's coldest air to date.
It comes as many communities are already getting
lashed by severe winter weather.
Here's the report.
I wish it would stop.
I think we're pushing 20 inches, 21, 22
inches.
Residents in upstate New York digging out after
a lake effect snowstorm dumped more than 20
inches in a brutal winter weather.
We're going to get it for 24 hours
straight for sure.
That lake effect snow causing whiteout conditions.
Authorities responding to multiple crashes on Interstate 90
involving roughly 60 vehicles over a six mile
stretch of highway.
Officials said there were multiple jackknife tractor trailers
as well as passenger vehicles that were struck.
Authorities had to divert traffic and shut down
all westbound lanes of the interstate.
The brutal winter weather is set to get
worse for many with the most extreme winter
storm so far this season forecast to slam
the eastern half of the U.S. with
damaging ice and heavy snow.
The storm, fueled by a blast of Arctic
air, is set to hit the Midwest and
plains Thursday into Friday then spread into the
south and east this weekend.
Communities in the storm's path are bracing for
snow, sleet and freezing rain.
A dangerous wintry mix that could stretch more
than a thousand miles from Oklahoma and northern
Texas to North Carolina and Virginia by Saturday
night.
Salt shipping is very important.
We were starting to get low from all
we've had and there's so many different places
that's using salt right now, especially up north.
It's getting kind of hard to get.
Yeah, okay, so they had the east coast
and northern Texas, but they were turning the
show.
They were predicting it.
Hill country, power lines are going to snap.
And this is my favorite.
This actually started, I think, with Mimi's boy,
Max Velocity.
This is a local report.
Extremely cold temperatures tonight.
Please watch out for exploding trees.
What?
Exploding trees.
Folks, if you hear loud cracks, stay indoors.
Yes, exploding trees expected.
Really loading these trees up with dynamite?
Well, I love those nat pops.
That's why I selected that clip.
The idea is that when it gets so
cold, although I went through this in Austin,
what is it now, five years ago?
We didn't see any exploding trees, but the
sap freezes and then expands and the bark
explodes right off of it.
This is bull crap.
And you know what?
They've been warning us for the whole week,
I guarantee you, maybe, maybe, maybe Sunday.
I'm looking at the map and I don't
see you guys getting much at all.
They're just fear mongering everywhere.
But the east coast will be, and it's
going to hurt the show.
We're going to have low numbers today, too.
Who cares about life and limb?
It's hurting the show.
That's the most important thing.
It is.
It can't hurt the show.
Well, nothing can hurt this show.
And I would have to say among all...
Well, before you go off on that, I
got to talk about some stuff I saw
locally.
Okay.
Because you didn't realize, and we forgot to
remind people that the 20th, and there were
clips that we've had, was supposed to be
a general strike.
Yes.
Similar to blackout, if you remember that one.
Yes, of course.
And the one before that where nobody did
jack.
Uh-huh.
The no jack out.
Yeah.
There was a protest, and it was in
an area here around the El Cerrito Plaza.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
The El Cerrito Plaza.
Is that like a strip mall or what
is it?
Yeah.
No, it's kind of an old-fashioned, really
old-fashioned mall in El Cerrito.
And there was all four corners of the
main drag, the San Pablo Avenue and the
Plaza, had protesters who I went by, took
some photos.
I might add them in the next newsletter.
Wait a minute.
Troll Room is saying it's supposed to be
the 23rd.
That would be tomorrow.
Well, it doesn't matter what day it is,
but I thought it was the 20th, because
the 20th was the day that was the
anniversary of Trump's inauguration, and it was the
big deal.
And there was the protests were out, and
they were all people in their 70s.
Yes.
And a couple of kids, because it was
a working day, and people like Mimi's are
floating around, and she says there's no protesters
in Berkeley, but in the retirement cities like
El Cerrito, there was a bunch of old
women, and they had stupid signs, and one
of my favorite one, which I couldn't stop
laughing when I saw it, I'd say there's
about 100 people, which is quite a big
group.
Oh, that's more than expected.
Yeah, it was a good-sized crowd.
And everyone's honking, you know, honk, honk, honk.
I don't know how you're doing.
But there's one old lady holding a sign
that said, old lady, 75, 80, holding a
sign that said, hands off Greenland.
I'm thinking, what the hell?
Has she been to Greenland?
Is she a Greenlander?
Even funnier, there was a sign someone put
into a hillside in Greenland, which, as we
know, is protectorate of Denmark, that said, no
kings.
Denmark literally is a monarchy.
How stupid are these people?
No, that's what they were saying.
That was sincerity.
They want Denmark out.
Denmark has tried to mute it.
Oh, that's what they were saying.
Stop sterilizing our young girls.
They sterilized, there's a genocide.
Eugenics.
Yeah, we have that in Dripping Springs, and
if you go to Austin, you kind of
by default have to go through Dripping Springs,
and it's been going on for months.
Is that like a gonorrhea place or what?
It's the gateway to the hill country they
have on their water tower.
And there's the same kind of type of
character, because honestly, who else has time during
the day to stand at the intersection of
downtown Dripping Springs with no kings?
It's all the same stuff.
No kings.
They still think no kings is a thing.
They'll catch up.
So I have been just enjoying myself here
at the house.
And by the way, I've been corrected.
I always thought it was Davo, but Davos
is the correct pronunciation, because it is German
-speaking Switzerland.
I didn't realize that.
So Davos.
I enjoyed you saying Davo.
I'm not allowed to.
People get on my, you know, what do
you say is Davos now?
Okay, gotcha.
I'm here for you.
And your No Agenda show, I think, came
closest to the actual Greenland gambit, as we
had discussed that the most obvious way to
achieve what President Trump wants is through a
so-called compact of free association.
That is exactly what it seems what is
going to happen.
It's called a framework, a framework.
Yeah.
And it is just amazing how all of,
I mean, here's my takeaway, and then there's
a lot of stuff we can do.
President Trump definitely wants to have big, beautiful
ships and his six icebreakers up there in
the Arctic, and maybe put an aircraft carrier
in the G.I.U.K. gap, whatever.
He knew that if he just said, I
want to do this, that all of the
EU people would start moaning and groaning and
making all kinds of problems about it and
meetings and shaking their fists.
So instead, he just pulled this typical, it's
like, it's like, when will we understand the
algorithm of Trump?
Like, I'm going to take it by force.
Everybody freaks out.
And then he gets exactly what he wants.
This was explained by Commerce Secretary Lutnick this
morning on Bloomberg.
What did we say?
We said we cared about it for national
security, right?
We said we care about it for national
security.
I mean, it's obvious we care about it
for national security because if you're going to
build a golden dome over the United States
of America, right?
Wouldn't you prefer the golden dome cover Greenland
so when you're knocking out the missiles, you're
not knocking them out right over your head?
Like, we've all seen Israel knocking out the
missiles right over their head with their iron
dome.
Wouldn't you prefer to knock out the missiles
if you live on the east coast of
the United States of America over Greenland a
couple of thousand miles away where there's no
people, right?
Doesn't that sound better?
So this is sort of where we're thinking
about it and how our national security team
is thinking about it.
So what's actually in the framework?
Well, the framework is a national security-based
framework, that that's what the United States cares
about.
We care about our national security and we
care about the shipping lanes.
So let's talk about the national security and
shipping lanes and let's see if we can't
figure out a framework to do that together.
And I think that's what the president truthed
about.
He said we're going to try to figure
that out together because those were the key
points that the United States of America cared
about.
And I think the president's been clear about
it and he just wants people at the
table dealing with it swiftly.
I mean, think about this.
He sends out a truth.
And, like, within four days, right, we have
a framework agreement.
Like, that's, by the way, that's pretty effective.
And we had tariffs on, tariffs off.
They were never on.
What does this do?
They were never on.
The threat of them are coming on for
February 1st.
What does this do now for the agreement?
You and your team struck with Brussels because
the legal implementation has now been put on
hold.
Oh, I think it'll be put on unhold
probably tomorrow.
I mean, come on.
That's why I said it's an overreaction.
I mean, they know when the president says
this is what's going to happen.
I mean, what provoked the president?
What provoked the president was that they sent
military people to Greenland.
I mean, they didn't send military people to
Ukraine.
Like, why are they sending military people to
Greenland?
You know, it was so, it seemed like
a provocation.
Yeah.
So, Lutnik is kind of a jamoke.
But that is exactly what they wanted.
And the only type of framework that exists
really in diplomacy or in international relations is,
you know, you have a couple of options,
but the main one, which we're familiar with,
is the Compact of Free Association.
And that's what we're going to get.
And so instead of months or weeks of
people moaning and groaning and blocking it wherever
they can, going to the International Criminal Court,
whatever they would do, he just went off
the rails.
I think this is classic Trump.
I think, I agree with that.
And I do have a clip from Rutte.
Oh, I have several from Rutte.
Well, I want to play this one.
This is him praising Trump at Davos.
Yes, this is a classic.
I'm not popular with you now because I'm
defending Donald Trump, but I really believe he
can be happy that he is there because
he has forced us in Europe to step
up, to face the consequences that we have
to take care more of our own defense.
And here's my question to the audience.
I mean, many of you, I know, criticize
Donald Trump.
But do you really think that without Donald
Trump, eight big economies in Europe, including Spain
and Italy and Belgium, Canada, by the way,
also outside Europe, would have come to 2
% in 2025 when they were only on
1.5% at the beginning of the
year?
No way.
Without Donald Trump, this would never have happened.
They're all on 2% now.
Do you really think that in the summit
in The Hague, as already Alex was saying,
sorry, the president of Finland was saying, that
we would come to an overall defense spending
of 5%, including 3.5% in core
defense, if President Trump would not have been
re-elected as president of the United States?
No way.
It would never have happened.
So again, I'm not popular with you now
because I'm defending Donald Trump, but I really
believe he can be happy that he is
there because he has forced us in Europe
to step up, to face the consequences that
we have to take care more of our
own defense.
So it was so wonderful.
To me, this is award show level, except
award shows are now boring and dull.
But if you listen to, and these are
just very short, if you listen to the
pre-Trump Davos speech, this is the kind
of stuff you were hearing on the red
carpet.
We do prefer respect to bullies.
Bullies!
We do prefer signs of racism.
And we do prefer rule of law to
brutality.
So that was Macron.
By the way, yeah, Macron, he's bitching about
bullies with two black eyes from his wife.
Bob, it was a Macron brothers spat apparently.
And by the way, if you have to
wear shades to cover your, I don't think
the blue mirror shades is the choice I
would go with.
I mean, there's other types of glasses.
Here's Carney of Canada.
We stand firmly with Greenland and Denmark and
fully support their unique right to determine Greenland's
future.
We stand with Greenland.
Here's the Belgian Prime Minister De Wever.
At the moment, we're dependent on the United
States, so we chose to be lenient.
But now so many red lines are being
crossed that you have the choice between your
self-respect, being a happy vessel is one
thing, being a miserable slave is something else.
The message that we have to send, you're
crossing red lines here.
We either stand together or we will stand
divided.
And if we are divided, there is the
end of an era of 80 years of
Atlantism is really drawing to a close.
And, you know, as Gramsci said, if the
old is dying and the new is not
yet born, you live in a time of
monsters.
Monsters.
And it's up to him to decide if
he wants to be a monster, yes or
no.
He's a monster.
He's a monster, I tell you.
And, of course, everybody's favorite.
This clip went around.
Governor of California Gavin Newsom enters the scene.
Oh, big tugger.
I can't take this complicity.
People rolling over.
I should have brought a bunch of knee
pads for all the world leaders.
I mean, handing out crowns and handing out...
Crowns?
I mean, this is pathetic.
Crowns.
It's playing folks for fools.
And it's embarrassing.
Europeans think this is diplomacy and this will
ultimately work.
Is this diplomacy with Donald Trump?
He's a T-Rex.
You mate with him or he devours you.
What crown?
I don't know what they're talking about.
No, him.
What's he talking about?
Nobody's talking about it.
There's no crown.
Nobody gave him a crown.
But contrasting him with our shusher, Scott Shusher
Besson, shushing down the slopes.
Hey, boys.
Here I am.
Got something to say about Gavin.
I think it's very, very ironic that Governor
Newsom, who strikes me as Patrick Bateman meets
Sparkle Beach Ken.
I didn't know who Patrick Bateman was.
I had to look it up.
It was a little esoteric for me.
American Psycho.
I know.
I didn't realize.
He was the psycho stock guy, right?
From Wall Street in American Psycho.
Yeah, and he looks just like Newsom.
He does look like Newsom.
That was a good one.
He strikes me as Patrick Bateman meets Sparkle
Beach Ken.
May be the only Californian who knows less.
It's kind of extra funny when Besson talks
about Sparkle Beach Ken.
Yeah, somebody wrote that for him.
It's good.
That whole bit was written by a pro.
I don't care.
It's good.
...meets Sparkle Beach Ken.
May be the only Californian who knows less
about economics than Kamala Harris.
He's here this week with his billionaire sugar
daddy, Alex Soros.
And Davos is a perfect place for a
man who, when everyone else was on lockdown,
when he was having people arrested for going
to church, he was having $1,000 a
night meals at the French Laundry.
And I'm sure the California people won't forget
that.
Hold on a second.
It's $1,000 a plate, not $1,000
a night.
So he blew that joke.
Give him a little leniency.
This is not his wheelhouse at all, or
is it?
Maybe it is.
Maybe he wants it to be.
He was having $1,000 a night meals
at the French Laundry.
And I'm sure the California people won't forget
that.
And I can tell, my message to Governor
Newsom is the Trump administration is coming to
California.
We are going to crack down on waste,
fraud, and abuse.
And I was told he was asked to
give a speech on his signature policies, but
he's not speaking.
Because what have his economic policies brought?
Outward migration from California, a gigantic budget deficit,
the largest homeless population in America, and the
poor folks in the Palisades who had their
homes burned down.
He is here hobnobbing with the global elite
while his California citizens are still homeless.
Shame on him.
He is too smug, too self-absorbed, and
too economically illiterate to know anything.
Thank you very much.
Let me know if you need any further
clarification.
That was good, I have to say.
It was a takedown.
It was dynamite.
And he was somehow tabled.
Newsom was not allowed to speak.
So he was just in the audience with
the stooges.
It's Larry.
Larry's in charge of the whole deal.
Yeah, Larry Fink.
I'm sure I'd call one on Larry.
No to Newsom.
Okay, boss.
Now that video clip you played was from
a panel.
They had 18 chairs next to each other.
And it was very interesting to hear the
president of Finland, Alexander— Oh, that guy.
Who is he kidding?
And here's what he had to say.
Well, I mean, two answers.
First is a direct answer to the question
of this panel.
Can Europe defend itself?
My answer is unequivocally yes.
Without the Americans?
Without the Americans.
How?
Well, look— But you rely on them for
these key elements.
How would you do it at scale and
at duration?
Listen to his— Oh, we can defend it
without America.
We can do that.
Just listen to the stuff we got, man.
With an assumption that the United States would
cut off completely any kind of work.
Well, if we look at the defense composure
of Europe by and large in a country
like Finland.
By and large?
Defense composure?
Composure?
He meant composition.
That's what I think, too.
So how do we do it?
We have conscription.
One million have done it.
Come on, boys and girls.
You're going to fight the Russians.
Oh, boy.
We have cannon fodder.
I hope no one heard that.
We can mobilize 280,000 soldiers within weeks.
We have 62 F-18s.
Wow.
The next question is going to be, do
they fly without Americans?
No, they don't.
But do we trust that they will continue
to fly because it's in the interest of
America to do so?
Yes.
We just bought 64 F-35s.
We have the biggest artillery in Europe together
with Poland.
We got guns.
We have long-range missiles, land, sea, and
air.
We don't have these because we're worried about
Stockholm, right?
So the bottom line is that if you
ask me the question that can the Finnish
military defend itself against a Russian attack, the
whole defense composure of the way in which
we do it, yes, we can.
Okay.
So then about 10 minutes later, she comes
back to him, and then all of a
sudden he forgot what he said.
President Stubbe, I'd like to ask you as
well.
The U.S. administration has made it very
clear.
We are in an era now of hard
power, and they will wield it where they
feel it is advantageous or necessary.
You've said earlier that Europe can defend itself
without the Americans.
If it comes down...
Not exact, Mike, so that's not a quote.
Yeah, it was.
More or less, more or less.
Yeah, he's like...
We'll go back to the transcript.
More or less, more or less.
Go back to the transcript and read it
back to him.
No, listen to what he says.
We'll go back to the transcript.
More or less, more or less.
I love journalists.
Stoop.
Stoop, I guess.
That's Rocha saying, you did a stoop.
As in stupid.
He's like, oh, journalists, I love them.
They listen to my words, and then they
throw them in my face.
This is not good, with this big goofy
smile.
That was like, wow.
No.
The only EU leader who was honest was
Mr. Peepers.
Did you hear his speech?
No, I did not.
I missed it.
You have it for us.
I have a relevant clip.
We are aware of those problems.
Both Germany and Europe have wasted incredible potential
for growth in recent years by dragging feet
on reforms unnecessarily and excessively, curtailing entrepreneurial freedoms
and personal responsibility.
We are going to change that now.
Security and predictability take precedence over excessive regulation
and misplaced protection.
We must reduce bureaucracy substantially in Europe.
The single market was once created to form
the most competitive economic area in the world.
But instead, we have become the world champion
of overregulation.
That has to end.
Wow.
I'm like, okay.
Germany…
It's just talk.
You know, it's talk, but that's what this…
it's all talk.
But I thought that was brave of him,
Mr. Peepers, to stand up and say, hey,
it sucks.
What you guys have built is no good.
And they're the ones that actually are spending
the most on…
they're borrowing to spend on military.
But let's come back to America.
I know you have a couple of clips
with analysis.
I'd like to start us off with everybody's
favorite, Anderson Cooper.
He complained as well about his reception in
Davos from allies he'd just been threatening with
tariffs and the potential breakup of NATO over
Greenland.
They called me daddy, right, last time?
A very smart man said, he's our daddy.
He's running it.
I was like running it.
I went from running it to being a
terrible human being.
But now what I'm asking for is a
piece of ice, cold and poorly located, that
can play a vital role in world peace
and world protection.
It's a very small ask compared to what
we have given them for many, many decades.
So the only thing the American media could
focus on, because I was watching the quad
screen as it all happened, was, oh man,
he said the wrong country.
The president repeated his false story about NATO
not coming to this country's aid, which it
famously did after 9-11 and for decades
after in Afghanistan, also Iraq.
Hold on.
I just need to stop that for a
second.
The Nordic troop contributions to Iraq famously.
I looked the numbers up and Denmark actually
provided the most 545 troops.
Thank you.
Thank you, Denmark.
And they did lose seven soldiers.
Greenland contributed zero.
Iceland contributed zero.
So, you know, to say they famously came
to our aid in Iraq is a bit
of an overstatement.
He also confused Greenland and Iceland several times.
Until the last few days when I told
them about Iceland, they loved me.
But the problem with NATO is that we'll
be there for them 100%.
But I'm not sure that they'd be there
for us if we gave them the call.
Gentlemen, we are being attacked.
We're under attack by such and such a
nation.
I know them all very well.
I'm not sure that they'd be there.
I know we'd be there for them.
I don't know that they'd be there for
us.
So with all of the money we expend,
with all of the blood, sweat and tears,
I don't know that they'd be there for
us.
They're not there for us on Iceland, that
I can tell you.
I mean, our stock market took the first
dip yesterday because of Iceland.
So Iceland's already cost us a lot of
money.
White House Press Secretary Carolyn Leavitt tried to
correct a reporter who called attention to the
Greenland-Iceland confusion, saying, quote, his written remarks
referred to Greenland as a piece of ice
because that's what it is.
Okay.
Nice spin, Carolyn.
Okay.
He messed it up, as obvious.
But the intent was clear.
He did have ice on the brain.
You want to play a couple of your
response clips?
Yeah, well, let's start off with the real
reason behind all this, which you wanted me
to dig up, so I dug up the
first part of this anyway.
Oh, yes.
I'm so happy you have the clip.
Yay.
Yeah, there was a link to one of
the presentations.
If anyone got the newsletter, which a lot
of people didn't get.
Oh, no.
But they, including Matt at Martel.
Oh, Martel Hardware?
Yeah.
No, no, that's no good.
But there was a link.
Did he forget to donate subsequently?
I don't know.
I haven't looked at the spreadsheet.
But anyway, the point is that there was
a good link to a long lecture about
this in the newsletter.
If you clicked on the image of the
tweet, you would have taken you right to
it.
This is the guy that triggered the whole
thing.
This is one of these ufologists, and here
he is talking about this.
Now, how many of you know about the
object in Greenland?
A couple of you.
Okay.
For those of you that don't know, there
is a spacecraft that has melted out of
the ice in Greenland.
As you know, the North Pole has melted
completely.
You can go from London to Moscow or
to Russia by going over the North Pole
now.
Right away, bull crap.
All the ice cap is gone.
The last place that has ice on it
was Greenland.
Greenland had an 18,000-foot ice cap
on it.
Well, the spacecraft that is anchored in the
center of Greenland created the last ice age
50,000 years ago.
Okay.
It's a weather machine.
It's 55 miles wide, 300 miles long, and
2 miles high.
The people that lived in it were called
the Moyses.
If you draw a straight line from the
spacecraft to the Washington Monument in Washington, D
.C., through the Yucatan Peninsula Great Pyramid.
Wait a minute.
Does he bring in the Freemasons at any
point?
Because I'm expecting it in this.
That's good.
No, unfortunately.
And Mitsubishi.
It ends up on Easter Island where the
Moyses have been dug out of the surface.
The heads on Easter Island?
Well, two years ago, they finally went ahead
and they excavated.
And they're all 65 to 85-foot people,
full-body carvings.
And these were the people that lived in
the spacecraft that was uncovered that's melting out
of the ice in Greenland.
So when you think we've been alone, these
people have been up there for 50,000
years.
The spacecraft is still active after 50,000
years.
It has a 200-mile dampening field where
no electrons can flow into it.
In 1947, a B-52 bomber flew into
that pattern into the dampening field when trying
to fly between Maine and London.
As a result of that, they lost power
and crashed in Greenland.
As they sent in rescue B-52 bombers
to rescue them, they hit that same dampening
field, but they veered off.
They just ricocheted off of it by testing,
trying to get to these guys.
They were able to bring a circumference and
find out that there was an object 200
miles to the center of this field.
Man, there is a career for me.
Does this guy get a big audience?
I don't know.
I didn't show the audience, but I'm sure
they were lapping it up.
It was a good bit.
He went on and on and talked about
the CIA's had access to the thing they're
getting.
All our technology comes from this object.
Oh, okay.
So we already have the technology.
We don't need to have the saucer if
we already have the technology.
Well, I don't know.
Maybe we have to lock something down.
I have no idea.
Don't want China and Russia getting the technology,
I guess.
We can't have them getting that technology.
No.
Hey, thanks for bringing the second half of
the show early.
That's great.
All right.
So we go on from that.
With that in mind, we'll go on to—let's
start with the NPR.
I can do the analysis clips.
This is NPR.
I got two clips.
NPR talking about whatever this deal is.
Which one do you want?
You got three clips, actually.
You have Greenland.
Yeah, the one is the BS deal.
Just skip the BS deal and go with
anal NPR.
President Trump arrived at the World Economic Forum
in Davos, Switzerland today.
His insistent push for the U.S. to
own Greenland has captured the world's attention.
And he made news at this forum, ruling
out, at least for now, the use of
military force.
We probably won't get anything unless I decide
to use excessive strength and force.
Wow, what kind of feed did they have?
Yeah, you know, I noticed this.
It was like, Dave, this is really a
bad— All the clips of Trump are terrible.
Now, I don't know if they're doing it
on purpose.
I had good audio.
Yeah, and you had good product.
I don't know what the problem was.
Where we would be, frankly, unstoppable.
But I won't do that, OK?
Now everyone's saying, oh, good.
That's probably the biggest statement I made, because
people thought I would use force.
I don't have to use force.
I don't want to use force.
I won't use force.
Trump also ended up backing down from an
earlier threat of higher tariffs on eight European
countries.
We're joined now by Empire's senior White House
correspondent Tamara Keith, who's been monitoring Trump's remarks
from Washington.
Hi, Tam.
Hey, Elsa.
OK, let's start with Greenland.
It's a territory of Denmark, which is, of
course, a member of NATO.
Denmark's a U.S. ally.
How did Trump today re-explain his desire
for the U.S. to take over Greenland?
Well, he said it is in the Western
Hemisphere and is strategically important for U.S.
national security.
He insisted the U.S. is the only
country with the strength to defend it, develop
it and improve it.
He called for immediate negotiations to discuss U
.S. acquisition.
And all we're asking for is to get
Greenland, including right title and ownership, because you
need the ownership to defend it.
You can't defend it on a lease.
He called this a very small ask, but
in fact, it has caused a major rift
with U.S. allies in Europe.
And this would be a good time to
note that NATO has a mutual defense agreement.
And the only time it has been invoked
was after 9-11 when European countries helped
the United States.
That's right.
But they never mentioned the numbers, which was
pretty small.
Yeah, they had a couple of people help.
And they also needed a Basra air base.
And the French sure didn't help.
We got mad at them and called them
freedom fighters.
We mentioned all the time on the show.
Yes.
So that's bullcrap.
OK, let's go.
Is it fair to say that the U
.S. commitment to NATO has been totally thrown
into question by President Trump's Greenland request?
Yeah.
You know, Trump has long played coy with
his commitment to NATO and has often been
quite critical of other countries in the alliance.
And now with Greenland at center stage, leaders
of longtime U.S. allies are very openly
questioning the reliability of the United States.
Meanwhile, in this Davos speech, Trump called both
Denmark and Canada ungrateful and questioned the value
of the alliance to the U.S. I
don't know that they'd be there for us.
They're not there for us in Iceland.
That I can tell you.
I mean, our stock market took the first
dip yesterday because of Iceland.
So Iceland's already cost us a lot of
money.
So there are two notable things about that
clip.
The president repeatedly said Iceland when he meant
to say Greenland, which the press then denied
ever happened.
And Trump also showed his hand a bit.
The markets have not reacted well to his
Greenland escalation.
And he is very sensitive to the markets.
Hold on.
Hold on a second.
This is when was this broadcast?
Because the minute the market was like minus
600 on the futures and the minute he
started talking, it just boomed right back up.
Were they watching the market or they're just
saying this?
They're just saying it.
OK.
And he is very sensitive to the markets.
In fact, stocks rose today on news that
President Trump was ruling out the use of
military force.
I'm glad you clarified there, Tam, because I
was confused by his mention of Iceland.
OK.
We also mentioned that Trump backed down from.
There was smoke coming out of my ears.
I didn't understand.
I was confused.
Pros today on news that President Trump was
ruling out the use of military force.
I'm glad you clarified there, Tam, because I
was confused by his mention of Iceland.
OK.
We also mentioned that Trump backed down from
an earlier threat of higher tariffs.
I saw that Trump wrote in a social
media post that he had a framework for
some sort of future deal on Greenland.
Do we know what that framework looks like
and how it came about?
The NATO Secretary General, Mark Rutte, has been
something of a Trump whisperer in this second
term, largely by piling on praise.
And the two met just hours after Trump's
speech.
And with cameras rolling, Rutte told Trump it
pains him to think that the president doubted
NATO's commitment to the U.S. Trump now
says they have a concept of a deal,
though there was no mention of the U
.S. actually owning Greenland, as he had been
demanding.
He dodged questions about that, simply saying it
would be an infinite deal.
Yes, forever, a forever deal.
Got cut off.
Yeah, I don't know why.
Yeah, infinite.
But what was the deal?
I don't think there was a deal.
I think Trump's just going to move people.
No, no, no.
Well, I have Rutte on Bloomberg, also from
this morning.
And the title of the video was Mark
Rutte details the framework deal.
Are you ready to listen to the detailing?
Yeah, this should be good.
Yeah.
On the podium saying that he wanted that
big, beautiful block of ice.
Goes into a room with you and he
says he has a framework for a deal.
What did you do?
President Trump has been clear from when he
was in Office Trump 45, also when he
came back into Office Trump 47, that when
it comes to the protection of the Arctic,
with a priority on Greenland, we have to
spend more energy, more time, more focus on
this.
Because we know the sea lanes are opening
up.
The Chinese and the Russians are more and
more active.
So what we discussed last night, how in
a practical sense we can get this done.
And we agreed on these two tricks.
One is the seven countries in the high
north, including the United States, working together to
protect against any adversary.
So that will be something where NATO is
heavily involved.
And then when it comes to Greenland specifically,
continuing the discussions they started last week, the
Danish delegation, Secretary Rubio, Vice President Vance in
Washington, to continue that discussion.
Also to make sure that when it comes
to Greenland specifically, their economy, their military situation,
Russia and China will never get access.
So the only key thing I heard there
was the seven Arctic nations.
So it could be like a subset of
NATO or the North, you know, call it
the North Arctic Treaty Organization.
And then Rutte had a second piece to
this.
And the Danes and sovereignty, is that all
assured?
We didn't discuss at all about that issue.
So we discussed how can we protect Greenland,
how can we protect the wider Arctic region.
And again, I think President Trump was the
one who reinvigorated NATO at the summit in
The Hague with the famous 5%.
I think we can be thankful for the
fact that he again has been able to
take leadership on this issue.
How can we collectively protect the Arctic?
There's the latest rumors out there that it
would involve sort of bigger bases, longer leases,
but not actually changing sovereignty.
And the idea of far more American troops,
is that the sort of basis of it?
We didn't go into those details at all.
We know that the Danes are completely open
to having more American presence in Greenland and
Greenland is open to that.
And I think it is good that these
discussions take place with the three of them.
Because at the end, I cannot negotiate on
behalf of anyone.
I was listening to a lot of people.
I think there is a landing ground here.
But in the end, of course, now we
have to make it happen.
It's what he wanted all along.
He just wants, just let me put my
big, beautiful ships there.
Let me put the destroyers, some of the
big, beautiful new destroyers.
Let me put the aircraft carrier up there.
Let me put some subs up there.
He knew that if he just said, I
want to do that, there would have been
endless conversation and nonsense.
It just seems clear.
The whole thing was a Trump algo.
I'm going to kill everybody.
But really, I just want to pat your
head.
Kill everybody.
He's a madman.
So this has a lot to do with
the so-called Polar Silk Road.
Oh, for sure.
And so they can't let the Chinese run
the place.
Especially not if Canada wants some of that,
which they've more or less announced.
The Judge Knapp, who hates Trump, and every
one of his guests hates Trump, had a
funny clip.
Yeah, I would like to get to the
bottom of when that came about.
Trump must have had something to do with
Knapp getting kicked off Fox.
That, or maybe Knapp thought he was going
to be a Supreme Court judge.
You know, I think he...
Oh, brother.
Don't you think that's something like that?
Now that you mention it.
I recall there was some talk of that
at some point.
Maybe I'm confusing it with someone else.
But he hates him.
But he did find a funny clip from
the House of Commons.
Here's the reaction on the floor of the
House of Commons to his latest statements.
This is yesterday.
This is a leading member of Prime Minister
Stormer's party.
He's not exactly Antony Wedgwood, Ben, pleading for
the plight of the Palestinians.
He doesn't have that passion, but it's very
clear what his point is.
Chris, cut number 16.
Madam Deputy Speaker, President Trump is acting like
an international gangster.
Gangster!
Threatening to trample over the sovereignty of an
ally.
Threatening the end of NATO altogether.
And now threatening to hit our country and
seven European allies with outrageous, damaging tariffs unless
he gets his hands on Greenland.
The President of the United States is attacking
our economy, our livelihoods, and our national security.
Wait a minute, I thought tariffs only hurt
the people in the country who put the
tariffs on.
For some reason they seem to think that
tariffs will hurt them.
This is interesting.
The only people cheering him on are Vladimir
Putin and Xi Jinping.
We have to finally be clear-eyed about
the sort of man Trump is and treat
him accordingly.
He is a bully.
He thinks he can grab whatever he wants
using force if necessary.
And he is corrupt.
The most corrupt president the United States has
ever seen.
Only two ways of getting him to back
down.
Driving him with a new jet, perhaps, or
a few billionaires' crypto account.
Or standing up to him like we would
with any other bully.
Bully!
He's a bully, I tell you.
But this, the UK, I, so I have
to play this clip because it flows into
something else I've been tracking.
And this is very typical of the type
of Instagram ladies that are being sent to
me by my friends in the UK.
And I love my friends in the UK,
but man, they all hate Trump.
They think he's a bully.
He doesn't know it.
He's a bully.
He just wants another jet.
He just wants more crypto in his account.
This is a liberal white lady reading a
British Facebook post.
The whole thing was like five minutes, so
I cut it down, you know, to like
a minute and a half.
Somebody posted this on Facebook and you've got
to hear it.
I wish I knew the author because I
want to give them credit.
All right, let's call this what it is.
Perfectly timed economic judo.
And Trump just ran face first into the
mat.
While Trump is over there banging his favorite
broken toy, tariffs, like a toddler with a
plastic hammer on a coffee table.
The EU quietly did something grownups do.
They signed a massive free trade deal with
Mercosur.
That's been 20 plus years in the making.
20 years.
That's patience.
That's planning.
That's not, I woke up angry and threatened
half the planet on social media.
And the timing?
Chef's kiss.
Trump pulls out his shiny new 10%
tariffs, then threatens 25% tariffs like he's
upping the ante at a poker table while
everybody already knows he's bluffing.
He's targeting EU countries because they dare to
say, no, mate, you don't get to just
muscle Greenland like it's a monopoly property.
So what does Europe do?
Do they panic?
Do they tweet?
Do they throw a tantrum?
No.
They say, cool.
While you're busy with tariffs, we'll just lock
in one of the biggest free trade zones
on earth with South America.
While he's playing checkers with tariffs, Europe's playing
long-term chess with supply chains.
While he's yelling, America first, Europe's saying, fine,
we'll trade elsewhere.
And that's the real blow here.
Not the headlines.
Not the symbolism.
The fact that when those 10% and
25% tariffs land, Europe's going to feel
them a lot less than Trump thinks.
And that's impeccable timing.
That's what impeccable timing looks like.
No shouting.
No theatrics.
Just a quiet, coordinated move that leaves the
bully swinging at air.
Trump wanted to show strength.
Europe just showed competence.
And competence always wins in the end.
So, this has been the common message.
Like, the EU, they took their time.
They worked on this Mercosur deal for 25
years.
And this is the biggest trade deal in
the EU.
They're smart.
They take their time.
They are diplomats.
They know how to do it.
But, uh-oh, what just happened this morning?
European Union lawmakers have voted to challenge the
legality of a newly signed trade deal with
the South American bloc Mercosur this Wednesday.
MEPs narrowly approved sending the agreement to Europe's
top court to rule on whether it's in
line with the bloc's treaties.
Brussels signed this deal with Mercosur members just
on Saturday.
Well, to talk more about this, we can
bring in Armen Georgian, our Europe editor.
Armen, to what extent does this represent a
blow for this deal?
Well, the deal is not dead.
But it's certainly, at the moment, very much...
...on hold because the European Court of Justice
has to rule whether it's compatible with the
EU treaties.
Exactly.
These things never happen.
The EU is one big bureaucracy.
That's the whole point of what Trump did.
He didn't want to go through all this
nonsense.
Man.
It's like, did they never read Art of
the Deal?
It was too dumb.
Oh, that's just a stupid book.
I don't read orange books.
This is new good.
Then we have Professor Jeffrey Sachs.
I would say another Trump hater.
And a communist, I think.
Isn't he a professor in finance?
I don't know what he's a professor in,
actually.
We'll look him up.
And he was on Judge Knapp's show.
So here's the haters welcoming the haters.
It seems, just based on the last few
minutes, that Trump said, well, we won't take
Greenland by force.
Probably, if I could guess, because the stock
market went down yesterday.
And maybe that's the only thing that interests
the president is his personal wealth.
And so maybe, maybe that is the one
last guardrail that we have.
We don't seem to have a guardrail of
decency, of behavior like an adult, to whine
about not getting the Nobel Prize.
It's something you would teach your children.
Hold it in.
You don't get everything you want.
Try to hold it together.
But what we have is a kind of
decompensation, it seems to me, at a personal
level.
But maybe Trump was pulled aside by Besant
or somebody and explained, Mr. President, your remarks
yesterday led to a big drop of the
stock market.
So try to say something.
Maybe he knew what he was going to
say.
So somebody's front running the market as it
recovers on his remarks.
Maybe it's all a game in that way.
But Mike, he has pulled the world into
a whipsaw that is crazy.
And it may well be crazy.
We've not seen any behavior like this by
any American president in modern times.
Professor Jeffrey Sachs just put himself on the
same level as the ladies of The View.
You've got to take some stock at a
certain moment and look at yourself and say,
what am I actually going out there and
telling people?
It's just, it's baffling to me that they
don't, you and I see this all the
time.
And we keep saying, when will they figure
Trump out?
And you always say, never.
And I'll continue saying it.
Now, let me, let me, here's the female
version of Sachs.
At the tone, a clip from The View
will be played.
Shelter in place.
Let me ruin your morning.
World leaders just touched down in Davos, and
they have a lot to process from you
know who.
Because this weekend he fired off angry text
messages to Norway's prime minister, blaming the country
for denying him the Nobel Peace Prize.
Even though the country doesn't have anything to
say about who gets the award.
Obama phone.
That the snub has made him even more
determined.
Doesn't she sound like Obama phone lady from
time to time?
Obama phone.
To take control of Greenland.
But he had a different take on things
last night.
Take a look.
Can you speak to your letter that you
wrote to the prime minister saying that the
Nobel Prize has influenced your thinking on Greenland?
No, I don't care about the Nobel Prize.
First of all, a very fine woman felt
that I deserved it and really wanted me
to have the Nobel Prize.
And I appreciate that.
If anybody thinks that Norway doesn't, doesn't control
the Nobel Prize, they're just kidding.
They have a board, but it's controlled by
Norway.
And I don't care what Norway says.
But I really don't care about that.
What I care about is saving lives.
He said to the prime minister of Norway,
considering your country decided not to give me
the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped eight
wars.
Plus, which is not true.
That's what I mean.
He said, I no longer feel an obligation
to think purely of peace.
And then he also said Denmark cannot protect
that land from Russia or China.
And why do they have a right of
ownership to it anyway?
He's saying, what he's saying is the quiet
part out loud.
He is going to try to take Greenland.
And we need to do everything we can
to save it.
And we just wanted cheaper groceries.
That's all we want.
Let me hear Fumupi again.
For denying him the Nobel Peace Prize.
Everybody in Cleveland, low minority, got Obama phone.
Keep Obama in Christmas, you know.
He gave us a phone.
Yeah, I think it's pretty close.
So, shame on these people.
It's just, it's pathetic.
Everybody was doing it.
Like, we were just like, oh, this is
a gambit.
Let's see how it plays out.
What else you got?
For Greenland, I really don't have anything but
the summary clip.
And I don't have much on the topic.
I'm not even sure how he's going to
pull this off.
But I think it's one of these things
where it's like a squatter.
You know, they just kind of move in
and you can't get them out.
And that's what we're going to do.
Yeah, and all he wanted was everyone to
know we're going to do it.
Yeah, so he's got to lay down the
framework.
He laid down his frame.
The framework is, hey, we're moving into Greenland,
okay?
Yeah, exactly.
We're putting the Golden Dome up there.
What are you going to do about it?
There doesn't have to be any fighting.
The Greenlanders are fine with it.
If I was 25, 30 years old, you
know what I'd do?
I'd be on a plane to Greenland.
I'd be buying a house, I'm setting up
shop.
I bet you the Davos ladies, they're already
putting on their mink coats.
They're flying over.
It's going to be a bonanza.
It's going to be a boomtown like no
one's ever seen before.
Nook.
I do have two clips from Jake Tapper.
This is CNN Breaking News.
Breaking News.
Welcome to the lead on Jake Tapper.
We're going to start with breaking news in
our world lead.
Hours after delivering a speech at Davos that
was received as warmly as the frigid Swiss
air, President Trump now claims he's one step
closer to his goal of the U.S.
acquiring the Arctic island of Greenland, which belongs
to Denmark.
Trump wrote on Food Social today, quote, based
upon a very productive meeting that I have
had with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark
Rutte, we have formed a framework of a
future deal with respect to Greenland and, in
fact, the entire Arctic region.
This solution, if consummated, will be a great
one for the United States of America and
all NATO nations.
Based upon this understanding, I will not be
imposing the tariffs that were scheduled to go
into effect on February 1st.
Unquote.
Just minutes ago, the president was asked about
this and pressed by CNN, Caitlin Collins, on
whether this framework of a deal includes the
U.S. ownership that President Trump has insisted
must happen.
Caitlin got the trip to Davos.
Does it still include the United States having
ownership of Greenland like you've said you wanted?
It's a long term deal.
It's the ultimate long term deal.
And I think it puts everybody in a
really good position.
I love the music, the lounge music in
the background.
That is so Davos.
Like, hey man, we're in the lobby and
it's nice and chill and everyone's like crooning
and swooning.
It's the ultimate long term deal.
And I think it puts everybody in a
really good position.
Especially as it pertains to security and minerals
and everything else.
That sounds like a live piano.
Ah, it could be.
Let's listen again.
You've been to these things where you're floating
around some event.
And there's some dude playing the piano.
And sometimes a lady with a harp.
Well, I haven't seen that.
I've seen harp lady before.
It's a long term deal.
It's the ultimate long term deal.
And I think it puts everybody in a
really good position.
Especially as it pertains to security and minerals
and everything else.
How long will the deal be, Mr. President?
Infinite.
Infinite, he says.
Second part to this.
The president also questions NATO and the future
of NATO.
We give so much and we get so
little in return.
And I've been a critic of NATO for
many years.
And yet I've done more to help NATO
than any other president by far.
The problem with NATO is that we'll be
there for them 100%.
But I'm not sure that they'd be there
for us.
So, again, fact.
The only time in history that NATO's Article
5, which is an attack on one, is
an attack on all.
The only time Article 5 has been invoked
was NATO being there for the United States
after 9-11.
The president then turned to wind farms and
windmills insulting European countries that use them.
That was good, by the way.
That was fantastic.
Yeah, he went on and on about the
Chinese benefiting from selling their windmill junk.
Oh, wait, well, Jake Tapper has some data
and some stats.
China makes almost all of the windmills.
And yet I haven't been able to find
any wind farms in China.
But they make them, they sell them for
a fortune.
They sell them to the stupid people that
buy them.
But they don't use them themselves.
China, important fact, has more wind farms than
any other country.
I think an estimated 20% of their
energy comes from wind.
No.
The big picture, according to three sources, is
that many times...
That's not true.
It doesn't seem true to me either.
But that was, you know, that's Jake.
Officials worry that NATO's very survival remains at
stake.
They feel an urgent diplomatic intervention is needed
for the president.
I guess a question we all have right
now is whether this claim that this issue
is about to be resolved, is that real?
Is that Trump waving a white flag?
Sources tell the New York Times that during
a NATO meeting today, top military officers from
NATO member states discussed this so-called compromise
in which Denmark would give the U.S.
sovereignty over small pockets of Greenland where the
U.S. could build military bases.
The officials did not know if this idea
was part of the framework.
Yeah, okay.
Nobody knows nothing.
But I think you're right.
This is just all a pretext to steaming
in.
And it's like, what are you doing?
What's the framework?
Ask Mark.
Mark's got the details.
Mark said give them the memo.
It still, it blows me away.
Mark Rutte just blows me away.
President Trump is calling him out.
Like, hey, where's Mark?
Yeah, Mark, he's a great guy.
He's just fantastic.
It's like he's a numbnut.
Everybody in Holland knows this.
Yeah, but Holland's a small country.
Yeah, that's true.
This was the one little thing he had.
He's a numbnut.
HR for Unilever.
Come on.
So we want a piece of ice for
world protection, and they won't give it.
We've never asked for anything else.
And we could have kept that piece of
land, and we didn't.
So they have a choice.
You can say yes, and we will be
very appreciative.
Or you can say no, and we will
remember.
Oh, we'll remember.
And did you catch the breaking news the
president broke?
Breaking news during his speech?
Breaking news?
No one's picked up on it, but I
clipped it because it's breaking news.
You wouldn't have NATO if I didn't get
involved in my first term.
The war with Ukraine is an example.
We are thousands of miles away, separated by
a giant ocean.
It's a war that should have never started,
and it wouldn't have started if the 2020
U.S. presidential election weren't rigged.
It was a rigged election.
Everybody now knows that.
They found out.
People will soon be prosecuted for what they
did.
It's probably breaking news, but it should be.
It was a rigged election.
Well, it's breaking news.
People are going to be prosecuted very soon.
I heard that too.
No one has picked up on this.
It's not fitting the narrative of the Democrats
for the midterms.
We can't have that.
That would be no good.
Well, it's going to happen before the midterms.
I just have, I think, two more on
the Greenland thing.
I don't know.
I don't think it will.
No.
With Pam Bondi's operation, they can't get anything
off going.
You're very cynical about that, and I understand,
but I think it's because Pam Bondi that
it will happen.
Pam Bondi's not going to push back.
She'll do what the president says.
That was why she was hired.
So if he says prosecute, she'll prosecute.
We'll see.
Yeah, I know.
You're cynical.
I'm optimistic.
I'm optimistic about it.
It will be fun to watch.
We have Maduro.
He's spilling the tea, letting everybody know.
Prosecution's coming.
You know, the minute we see, what's her
face?
Kraken Lady.
Remember the Kraken Lady?
Yeah, yeah, they released the Kraken.
Yeah.
When she comes back on the scene, we'll
know prosecutions are imminent.
What's her name again?
I'm trying to get it.
I can't think of it.
It's not coming to mind either.
She was Giuliani's lawyer.
Co-host.
Anyway, we all know, you know, the only
person who really knows why.
By the way, China's 10% is Paul.
And those are just showrooms.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, that's just we show you how it
works.
Sidney Powell is her name.
Sidney the Kraken Powell.
This is CBC.
They got a doozy.
There is one other significant factor that may
have played a role in Trump's shifting positions.
Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore suggesting
the markets may have something to do with
it after investors were spooked by Trump's hostile
rhetoric.
The bond market and the stock market really
have a lot of influence on him.
And when it goes down almost 900 points
and people do interpret it as a sell
America trade, that may well have been the
reason he backed down.
After Trump announced this so-called deal, North
American stocks surged, which seems to have reassured
investors, at least for the time being.
So Howard Lutnick, I guess he wrote an
opinion piece for the Financial Times and there
was a dinner.
You know how this is.
Like, oh, we have a special dinner.
It's an invite only.
And there's 200 people there.
So Lutnick does a bit of shtick, a
bit of stand up at this dinner.
And everybody starts losing their mind.
Like apparently there was a big uproar and
people were going crazy.
And he was asked about it this morning
on Bloomberg.
Let's cut through the drama.
Let's get to the big point, the elephant
in the room.
What happened at dinnertime the other night?
I've heard all kinds of stories, booing, Lagarde
storming out the room.
What happened?
Oh, this is so silly.
So at the end of the evening, they
called on me.
I just published an op-ed in the
Financial Times.
And so they called on me.
I gave two, three minutes of my FT,
which basically said that globalization, right, and the
outsourcing of your industry to the lowest cost
in the world, right, had really left, had
really harmed America, had harmed Europe, and it
had failed us.
And that we need to reshorten it to
take care of our own citizens.
So that's basically the model.
And when I was done with that two
or three minutes, one person of the 200
-odd people in the room booed.
And I felt honored because it was Al
Gore.
You know, and Al Gore booed.
And I was like, really?
Can you just imagine Al Gore sitting there
booing by himself?
Yeah, yeah, I can imagine that.
Boo, boo, you bullies, you bullies.
Man, America is great.
We're going to fix all this.
I feel positive.
I love it.
I have two clips from Starmer on Greenland
that might be worth listening to.
Okay, Starmer.
Which one, the GL or the full?
It's not labeled one or two.
Well, GL.
They seem to be different, but they're the
same in length.
They look different.
They're the same in length?
Well, they may be the same.
I think it's the same clip.
Okay.
Let's start with GL.
GL.
Okay, well, this is rather embarrassing, actually.
We sent our best five soldiers to Greenland,
you know, as a show of force so
President Trump knows we're rather safe.
Wait a minute, this has got to be
AI.
About protecting Greenland.
But how do I put this?
Well, they kind of came back and said
it was way too cold.
So I asked the Royal Army to send
five more, but they told me that's all
we had.
So we're just going to, we're probably going
to stay out of this one.
And we wish Greenland's new Prime Minister, President
Trump, Godspeed on his new venture.
Okay, since you introduced AI.
I try to slip one of these in
every show if you haven't noticed.
Yeah, no, gee, I hadn't noticed the AIs.
Yes, yes, yes, that's quite good.
And the short ones work well, just as
a production note.
The short ones work well.
When they're long and they're cussing and stuff,
I don't think it works as well.
But this was good because it had just
that subtle five and it was too cold.
That was subtle.
That was good.
So outside of President Trump and Greenland and
Secretary, the Commerce Secretary Lutnick, who is just
a jolly fellow.
There's a billionaire who just loves life.
Like, this is great.
I'm rich.
He's having fun.
Yeah, he's definitely like, I'm having fun.
Al Gore's booing me.
We're going to bring back.
What could be better than having Al Gore
boo you?
I mean, at least it shows you something.
Yeah, we're bringing back manufacturing to America.
We're telling the old system, go pound sand.
We're going to do everything ourselves.
You know, we're going to build our own
facilities, our own manufacturing.
We're going to put Americans back to work.
You should think about that, too.
There's also all these other sessions, and there
will be many more over the next week.
And I'm sure I'll have some fun things
on Sunday.
Last year, we had the Queen of the
Netherlands saying something turdy.
They all talk dumb.
But the cake for AI was to, I
think he's actually a historian, Yuval Harari.
Harari.
This jamoke, this guy, I can just see
him there.
And by the way, the whole screen, which
usually has Davos logos on it, it changed
into like some mythical hands, like moving around,
you know, computer generated and coming out of
the sky.
And I think all this guy thinks is,
what can I say that will get me
more speaking gigs?
Because this is great for me.
Do you know, as far as putting words
in order is concerned, AI already thinks better
than many of us.
Therefore, anything made of words will be taken
over by AI.
If laws are made of words, then AI
will take over the legal system.
If books are just combinations of words, then
AI will take over books.
If religion is built from words, then AI
will take over religion.
This is particularly true of religions based on
books, like Islam, Christianity, or Judaism.
Judaism calls itself the religion of the book,
and it grants ultimate authority, not to humans,
but to words in books.
Humans have authority in Judaism, not because of
our experiences, but only because we learn words
in books.
Now, no human can read and remember all
the words in all the Jewish books, but
AI can easily do that.
What happens to a religion of the book
when the greatest expert on the holy book
is an AI?
Yeah, you can sign me up right now
for your next conference.
I'm controversial.
This guy.
He's good.
You're right.
You nailed it.
That is a public speaking gambit, the use
of the term Beck gambit.
And you could go on forever if you're
talking like that.
Actually, I've thought a little bit more.
I've had some introspective thoughts with myself about
AI, because I do use it.
You use it.
I particularly like Gemini because, first of all,
I'm sure they have some better access to
Google search.
They have access to YouTube transcripts.
There's a lot of stuff that it can
operate on.
But let's just be honest.
Artificial intelligence, to me, is like artificial flavoring.
I mean, there's obviously no intelligence in there.
And what we see ourselves with AI-generated
stuff, like art, like music, and just go
on YouTube and look at all the art.
It's like now it all looks the same.
Nothing is exceptional.
It's okay.
Yeah, it's good.
It's technically good.
It's much better than anyone could do.
But now there's nothing exceptional.
It's all like, eh, you really got to
look through and like, is there something really,
really good?
And so if you look at artistry in
our own world where we have, on a
monthly basis, hundreds of pieces of art, really
Darren O'Neill is the only one who
does something with it that works.
Why can't the super artificial intelligence make it
all like Darren's funny bits?
Because they can't.
You know, the songs that we have, and
we have two for today, they're okay.
But now it all just sounds kind of
the same.
And it's very infrequent that something is just
dynamite.
No, the sameness of the songs.
I mean, I'm less concerned about the sameness
of the art, but I'm not that concerned
about it.
And you're right, Darren does the best job
generally.
But the sameness, although Jeffrey Ray is right
up there with him, I would say the
sameness of the music really bothers me.
Yeah.
Because music, to make something hit your heartstrings,
as it were, it needs something that artificial
intelligence just doesn't have.
Now, I think as a technology, and by
the way, why would that be any different
for code?
You know, if everyone's using the same models
and we're doing code, you may have one
or two people who can do something exceptional
with it.
But this idea that, oh, it's going to
be great and it's going to take over
the world, probably not.
I can see where having a model running
at home, which will soon be available, you
know, within the next two years, a lot
of these current NVIDIA systems will have to
be replaced for the newest, hottest whatever.
And you'll be able to run something at
home, maybe at your club or, you know,
your church or whatever, and then you can
use it yourself.
And it'll be very functional for a lot
of things.
The problem is these Silicon Valley companies, they
always want to offer it to everybody.
Oh, everybody, this is the best.
That's why they did this parlor trick of
your chat bot talking to you, and, oh,
I can create some art and I can
make my wife look like a queen and
all this stuff.
It's like, eh, okay.
But it's not really functional and it's too
expensive.
I think the mistake they're making is trying
to make it something that everybody will be
able to access.
And already, ChatGPT, Google, they're already talking about
ads.
And we know where that ends up, just
ads everywhere.
So I just don't see it.
I really hope it works because it's good
for our economy and lots of people building
data centers.
And, hey, you know what, if all that
AI stuff goes away, supposedly they'll all have
their own power plants.
Well, that'll be good.
We'll have more energy.
What?
I said that'll be the day.
What will be the day?
When they'll all have their own power plants.
Well, that's the promise.
Yeah, promises, promises.
You are so, so pessimistic.
No, I'm not.
It's just like I've seen these promises.
You know, these guys come up with all
these grandiose schemes.
You know, they're just shipping $10 with every
query you give them.
And it's ludicrous.
They're losing their ass.
You said so yourself, and you know that
that's happening.
And if it was so easy to put
up all these power plants, why don't we
have a bunch of them already?
I mean, power plants are non-trivial.
They use a lot of energy, and they're
not good for the environment.
But all of a sudden, the same environmentalists
are putting up all these power plants left
and right.
In California, they've torn down most of the
reservoirs that gave us cheap hydroelectric power.
It was all over the state.
And they blew up all the dams, and
they've done the same thing in Washington State
with all the dams.
Oh, heaven forbid there's a salmon that can't
get through, so let's blow up a dam.
I mean, come on.
I believe that there will be some power
that is built for these data centers.
They have to.
And they're building a fusion power plant at
Microsoft for its operation?
Oh, please.
They can't get that to work.
Well, you know, I think there's going to
be coal.
There's going to be gas.
Look, if they go back to coal, I
think they have a shot.
But there's so much pushback against coal.
No, not in Texas.
In California, I mean, these things are not
being built in California.
These things are being built in Virginia, in
Texas, you know, wide open spaces.
They have to have their – if they
want them to turn on at all, they
have to have additional power.
It's just not available.
So if they can keep the circularity system
going of the money flow, I think they
will build some plants.
So that won't necessarily be bad if AI
doesn't take off.
But I just don't see the business model
that they're used to working.
This is what they've tried to do, and
that was Sam Altman who basically screwed everybody
by, oh, look, it's a chat bot.
You can talk to it.
And everyone went, oh, okay, I can talk
to my chat bot.
Oh, my robot.
You know, Google seems the only kind of
winner in this because of the search.
I mean, search is unbelievably good because they
give you the sources.
Now, you use Anthropic or what do you
use?
What do you like?
I use Perplexity.
Perplexity.
And now I've moved to Claude.
How's Claude for you?
I like it so far.
I'm still like – I'm still designing –
because Claude is a little different than some
of these other ones.
It requires you to become friends with it.
It's just kind of annoying, you know.
Can you tell me more so I can
make sure that everything I do is right?
I want to be friends with you.
I mean, it's just a little much.
Do you ever say – So, I mean,
for a quick – if I have to
go look up something right now, I'll go
to Perplexity and I want to deal with
it.
But eventually, I think Claude will be the
better one.
I can totally – Which is Anthropic to
what it is.
What I can totally see is a lot
of very, very small companies, one-man, two
-man, four-man, using almost any of these
AI systems to build products, software products that
may or may not have a marketplace or
maybe a small company that can do something.
But I just don't see the massive TAM,
as they say, the total accessible market that
they're basing this on.
I just don't.
And now Apple, yeah, okay, they're probably going
to make a couple billion dollars a year
by putting Gemini into their Siri.
But, you know, Apple, this goes against their
whole ethos.
And, you know, people don't want to hear
Siri anymore.
So, if you can't customize Siri, if you
can't make Siri your friend and have Siri
do different voices, which they won't want, it's
like – I think it's bad for Apple.
I don't think it's a smart move.
Let people use that other stuff.
Anyway, I mean, I've built some software products
that I'm like, wow, I can't – but
I know systems.
I know how Linux systems work.
I know how certain frameworks operate.
Well, that's the myth of AI right there.
You can do it if you know –
if you can do it without AI.
Yeah, I mean, I can't.
I really can't code this stuff.
But when I say I want a playout
system and here's how I'm going to build
it and I want it to run on
Linux, and I say, okay, I want to
have – bless you – I want to
have six players and these players have to
have pre-fader listening and I have to
be able to control it with my MIDI
controller.
I mean, I built half of the system
I want within an hour.
That blew me away.
But it's not like – that's not a
product I'm going to package up and ship.
Like, oh, here's the Podfather's Linux playout system.
No one's going to care for that.
But it will – How close are you
to getting to your goal?
And I will tell you what the goal
is.
The goal, of course, is getting off of
Windows completely and being all Linux.
I would say I'm a full day's away.
A day?
Yeah.
So the next show on Sunday – No,
no, I don't have any time in the
next few days.
Maybe Saturday, if it's snowpocalypse and we can't
go anywhere, then I might be able to
do it.
Yeah.
Even the most difficult part, which is the
– Okay, well, let's give you the benefit
of the doubt.
My next show on Thursday, next week, will
be all Linux.
I need a full day.
I don't have a full day in my
life anymore.
So it'll take – It could take me
a week or two, but I think I
can actually get there.
Two weeks.
I'm not going to let you rush me
on this.
I want a deadline.
No deadline, you'll never do it.
No, I'll do it.
I'll do it.
I was amazed at how far I got.
I'm like, holy crap.
So I'm coding this, and then all of
a sudden the thing says, are you ready
to build a cart wall yet?
I'm like, what?
I never mentioned cart wall.
So it already understands the concept, but then
it does really dumb stuff like, well, since
you are heavily involved with podcasting 2.0,
which, of course, you know, there was something
I searched for or did on it in
some other chat somewhere.
So now it's trying to be smart.
Now it's trying to tell me what I
need to do based on something it thinks
that I'm interested in at that moment, but
irrelevant.
Oh, mind reading.
Yeah, mind reading.
But I would really love just, you know,
the real NVIDIA system you want, it's going
to be $14,000, and then you can
get similar performance to what you get from
Claude or whatever.
I would love to have that at home.
That would be great.
It really would.
Wouldn't you rather save the $14,000?
Yes, but I want to be prepared for
when they start charging me what it actually
costs.
You know, the people who have figured it
out are 11 Labs.
They charge you.
I mean, they're not messing around.
They charge you for what you use, and
it's expensive.
It gets expensive because I've been using it
for a whole bunch of different things.
I'm like, wow, okay, so they're racking up
bills here.
Well, it's for a church.
I built a system.
It's called YourTown, and churches can become their
own radio station because no one knows what
to do.
If they just type in their promo, then
the system creates the promo with a voice
and with music and everything, and it sounds
pretty decent.
No one cares that it's an AI voice,
honestly.
But every single time you generate something, the
meter is running.
They really do bill you properly.
And that's when you're like, okay, well, that
was $140 a month.
That's not just messing around with some AI
stuff.
But I think they're charging a fair amount.
They're probably trying to make it profitable.
For all I know, they may even be
getting close, but I know it has to
cost that.
The problem of the Google, well, Google has
no problems, but of any of these systems
is they're trying to serve everybody all the
time.
Remember when it first started and you wanted
an image and it would put you in
the queue and you'd have to go back
and wait and look?
It's like, oh, you're number 30 in the
queue.
Your job will process soon.
No.
Maybe about a year ago when everything first
started and these first image generators were starting
to come out, DALI was the first one.
And even on DALI, when it first started,
you got put into a queue because they
just didn't have the processing power.
I never had this experience.
And I was using DALI from the get
-go.
I'm just telling you, this was a thing.
But it's no longer a thing because they
put all the money in.
I just don't see where they're going to
get it back.
And how would ads work?
I mean, how does Google make $40 billion
a quarter?
What are they actually selling?
You should know this.
This is your wheelhouse.
Well, Google makes most of their money selling
data and services and other systems that they
have.
Their reliance on pure search for their monies,
for their revenue, is not what it once
was.
And where's their revenues?
It comes from data, selling data, and they
do all kinds of backend stuff that you
don't even know about.
So like selling to data brokers?
Yeah, that and others and back to themselves.
Right.
Well, I can see where using your inputs,
now that Claude has gotten to get to
know you, oh, John has some weird things
he's asking.
Let me sell that.
I can see that.
But even then, will it really outweigh everything?
Will it be enough?
What do you want?
I don't know how they're going to do
it.
I mean, Google itself, when it began, it
couldn't make money on ads because they didn't
know how to do it.
So they bought a company that did it.
Yeah, DoubleClick.
No, no, no.
It was a search engine company, not DoubleClick.
It was actually called GoTo or something like
that.
It had some screwball name, and they had
a very small market share, and they were
a search engine that implemented ads the way
Google does because it was pre-Google.
And so they bought this small company, and
they implemented that ad system, which was not
DoubleClick, which is different.
It was just a way how to present
the ads.
So you have your search engine results, and
then on the side it says it has
these ads that relate to the search.
And then they eventually incorporated ads into the
search.
So it was like you get your results
back, and some of them were ads.
It's going to be something like that where
they slip it in.
I don't know how they're going to do
it.
It's going to have to be somebody.
There'll be a guy out there that will
have an elegant solution, which is what Google
discovered from another company.
It'll be some small operation with an elegant
solution that's, oh, yeah, that's how you do
it.
There's a yeah, that's how you do it
moment coming.
We don't have it, and we can't imagine
it.
If either one of us did, we'd go
do that.
Well, I'm going to start thinking about it
now.
Well, think about it.
And the minute they have that, then there'll
just be another AI company that comes in
front of it and executes the AI queries
for you and filters out the ads.
It's a never-ending story.
And then, of course, this passed my transom.
In August 2025, Adobe added some AI features
to Acrobat Studio, including PDF Spaces, which supported
the ability to add up to 100 documents
to be AI summarized.
Documents added to PDF Spaces can now use
Adobe's AI Assistant to generate a presentation from
uploads with options for editing without needing to
generate new slides and can be shared with
coworkers for further edits.
Another new feature in PDF Spaces enables the
creation of an AI podcast from a document
similar to a Notebook LM feature.
The default podcast creation option has two AI
hosts discuss the material.
Oh, my goodness.
That's what the world needs.
More podcast hosts discussing your documentation.
Lordy, lordy.
I think it's time for a deep dive.
I'm ready for you.
Let's do it.
Let's play something else.
You got Brooks and Capehart.
I've been missing your Brooks and Capehart stuff.
Well, yeah, it's going to be up there.
They have been missing it, too, because, as
you know, whenever you play the clips, their
audience doubles.
So I think we should play some Brooks
and Capehart from your public broadcast systems media
organization.
Well, they discuss Minnesota.
Ah.
In these clips.
And there's also four of them.
They're short.
One of them is really short.
It's only 13 seconds.
And there's a wow clip in here, which
makes it worthwhile.
This is PBS 1MN.
Well, it's been a busy week for President
Trump, flexing his power at home and abroad.
To discuss, we turn now to the analysis
of Brooks and Capehart.
That is New York Times columnist David Brooks
and Jonathan Capehart of MSNOW.
It's good to see you both.
MSNOW.
Let me start with a little bit of
news, Jonathan, that we just got moments ago.
There are now reports the Department of Justice
is issuing criminal subpoenas from Minnesota Governor Tim
Walz, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey.
We understand part of that is for what
they're said is impeding law enforcement.
As you well know, this comes against the
backdrop of ICE agents on the ground as
part of President Trump's immigration crackdown, protests on
the ground in response to their presence.
What's your reaction to the latest?
Let me guess.
Since one is a conservative and one is
a liberal, they will have wildly opposing views.
Wrong!
As we know, I will reiterate this, they
refuse to have an actual conservative voice on
anything PBS does, and so everything is completely
lopsided.
And what you do is, and the way
you do it, I know how you do
it, is you have someone who says they're
a conservative and they disagree with the liberal,
whatever the liberal says, and that's what we
have here.
Well, the president warned that retribution was coming
to Minnesota just a couple of days ago,
if not yesterday.
Time is elastic.
Wait, wait.
The president said retribution was coming to Minnesota?
When did he say that?
Yesterday, I think.
I'd never heard him say that at all.
He never said it.
No.
But this is PBS.
To Minnesota in just a couple of days
ago, if not yesterday.
Time is elastic these days.
So not surprising, but also interesting coming from
an administration that campaigned on how the previous
administration was weaponizing the Justice Department against him
and against people like him.
And instead, what we have seen from President
Trump is a weaponization of the Department of
Justice.
Now it's Governor Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Frey,
but also New York Attorney General Letitia James,
former FBI Director James Comey, the six Democratic
members of the House and the Senate that
did the video telling service members what they
already know, which is they do not have
to follow unlawful or illegal orders.
Now, didn't the Department of War already demote
the Arizona guy and subsequently tighten his pension
payments?
I don't know what the status of that
is.
I don't know that's true.
I know they threatened it and shook his
fist.
But I think Kelly would be bitching and
moaning more.
And so these are subpoenas that have gone
out to the governor and to the mayor
from AG Barbie?
Mm-hmm.
Well, subpoena is a start.
I know what you're going to say, but
it's a start.
What am I going to say?
Nothing will happen.
Nothing will happen?
I'd like to see something happen.
Believe me, I'm all for it.
I think it's great.
There's a number of situations occurring right now
that something should happen, but there's nothing that's
going to happen.
But let's go on.
What was that clip too?
Yeah.
Okay, so we're winding it up.
So I think that the governor and the
mayor probably saw this coming a mile away
because, again, we're dealing with the president who
has made it very clear in word and
in deed that he will go after people
he does not like.
Projecting much?
Okay.
So he hasn't gone after Capehart.
He's on the list.
Subpoenas are coming.
Unsealed indictments are being opened as we speak.
So here we go with it.
I think this is four.
David, we've seen tensions only rising on the
ground in Minneapolis.
We saw Governor Walz publicly come out and
call for a lowering of the temperature, telling
the protesters, don't take the bait, don't be
violent.
Even as the administration says it's going to
surge more agents.
Criminal subpoenas for the state and city leaders,
does that lower the temperature?
Not exactly.
You know, we're coming close to something like
an armed occupation of an American.
Is he at home on Zoom or something?
Is that how they're doing these shows now?
Is he in the studio?
He's not usually, he's often on Zoom.
I think he might be home on this
one.
Okay.
Criminal subpoenas for the state and city leaders,
does that lower the temperature?
Not exactly.
You know, we're coming close to something like
an armed occupation of an American state by
the American federal government.
There are 3,000 ICE officers in Minneapolis,
which is like five times the number of
police officers.
And they are behaving with reckless and violent
abandon.
Barack Obama deported 3 million people during the
course of his administration.
He didn't do it this way.
He did it to people who are just
coming over the border or people who are
criminals.
This is great.
Do you remember when people would, it was
like a running joke in movies, ICE and
the whole kitchen empties out.
Yeah, it was.
The only difference is you didn't hate that
president.
That's the only difference.
And you didn't rile everybody up to go
and make crazy noise about it.
That's the only difference.
You didn't, you know, send Don Lemon on
Operation Pull-Up.
That's the only difference.
We also didn't really have as much social
media at the time.
It was just starting.
He didn't go into homes and terrorize children,
disallow moms whose...
Remember the, do you remember Clinton?
What was the kid's name?
The Cuban kid?
Oh, right.
Eli Gonzalez.
Eli.
They had a gun sticking in his face.
Yeah, a little kid.
It was on the front page of every
newspaper.
Yeah, it was a guy in full armor,
militarized guy with a big giant rifle, and
he's sticking it in the kid's face.
Eli, Eli.
I think it's Eli.
Something like that, yeah.
Disallow.
Elian.
Elian Gonzalez.
Yeah, no, the media didn't do as much.
Actually, that's the best point right there.
That's the best example of the media being
slanted.
What you just said, I forgot about that.
In fact, I thought about the other ones,
and the kids in cages, and those cages
were done by Obama.
Obama, yeah.
But the Eli Gonzalez thing was the worst,
and they made a fuss about it, but
not like this.
There weren't protests, and women standing around with
signs, ice out.
So you said something on the last show,
which I think was really pertinent.
Surprising.
Because everybody from Oprah to Barbara Walters, Larry
King, David Letterman, everywhere that Donald Trump went
as Donald Trump, they all said, man, we
really hope you run for president.
You get it.
You understand the international scene, because this message
has always been, we're getting ripped off by
the rest of the world, particularly China.
That is a very consistent message, and they
all loved him until he left the Democrat
Party and became a Republican.
That's the only difference.
The guy is doing exactly the same thing.
Yeah, it's a cult problem.
It really is a cult problem, and it's
just, it's sad.
It is so.
It breaks my heart to see these people
so, you know, like your old ladies there,
running around the strip mall in, where is
it?
What's the name of the place?
El Cerrito.
The El Cerrito.
To our post office box.
If people want to donate with a check,
then go to post office box 339 El
Cerrito, California, 94530.
In fact, that was on my way to
the post office to pick up the check.
The El Cerrito strip mall ladies.
I mean, it's only because he's not a
Democrat, well, not even that, but because he
left the Democrat Party, he's a traitor.
You have to think that is really that
the media is just responsible for that.
The media is a bunch of Democrats, and
they're the ones who are trying to police
the party so when people quit and go
off and do something else, they get all
over them.
They make their lives miserable.
That's the idea.
That's how a cult works.
Disallow moms whose sons are dying from cancer
from seeing their kids.
Breaking up families.
Doing sort of ethnic investigations into people's neighbors.
Using these flash hand grenades.
It's just an unprecedented, I don't know if
unprecedented is the right word, but it could
be.
George H.W. Bush used the Insurrection Act
in 1992 in California, but he did it
with the presence of Pete Wilson, the governor
there, with the cooperation of the local officials.
This is completely different.
This is something that is turning up the
pressure.
What was 1992?
With Bush.
What did he need to do that in
California for?
I don't remember at all, and I'm from
here, and so it eludes me.
I'd have to look it up.
With Pete Wilson.
Yeah, who is a Republican.
I was going to say, he's a Republican.
Makes something of a difference.
Yeah.
George H.W. Bush used the Insurrection Act
in 1992 in California, but he did it
with the presence of Pete Wilson, the governor
there, with the cooperation of the local officials.
This is completely different.
This is something that is turning up the
pressure, and I think Governor Walz is right.
I'm not a huge fan, but the protesters
are turning up the tension on the ICE
officers.
Oh, that was after the Rodney King riots.
Oh, right.
Down in L.A. Well, yes, which was
a huge mess, and they had to bring
in the National Guard.
And so long as they do it nonviolently,
then Americans will see what is going on
in their country, and I've long thought if
Americans see deportations of respectable families, they will
finally rebel against this regime, and not just
the progressives, and not just Democrats, but normal
people who are like, what the heck is
going on here?
And so that's where we're headed.
Yeah, the ignorance is quite astounding.
So he's supposed to be a conservative spokesperson,
and instead of referring to the Republicans, he
calls it a regime, as though it's some
sort of communist operation in a third-world
country, the regime.
The regime, I tell you, the regime.
I mean, this is a ridiculous product that
PBS has put out there.
You know, there are people that can give
the other side and get into an actual
debate.
Instead of Chanel Ryan, you really want to
be the K-part.
No, I do not.
I mean...
No, because for one thing, it's a studio
show mostly, and I'm not interested in leaving
the house, as you know.
They could bring you in on Zoom, like
they do here.
Yeah, they don't like doing it, because of
the sound quality.
Generally speaking, very few people know how to
do their own sound.
Yeah, that's true.
But you know how to do it.
You know how to do sound.
I can do it.
You can do it.
But the ignorance of people, and all the
words get confused, like, you know, well, we
think migrants have a right...
It's like we've moved from illegal aliens to
illegal immigrants to immigrants to migrants, and now
it's just people.
They're Americans now.
Yeah, because no person's illegal.
Yeah.
No.
Well, we're not going to solve it for
them.
No, all we do is bitch and moan.
No, I'm not bitching and moaning at all.
Okay, all I do is bitch and moan.
Yes, you do.
I'm very optimistic about some prosecutions taking place.
Let's hope for the...
But before you play that, let's play the
general strike, and other general strikes being called
for.
These things don't work, have failed at every
turn, but here's another one.
Pentagon is readying more active-duty soldiers for
a possible deployment to Minneapolis.
That's on the heels of the Justice Department's
issuing subpoenas to Democratic officials in Minnesota, alleging
they are impeding the work of immigration agents.
And PR's Kat Lonsdorf has more.
Grand jury subpoenas went out to several local
and state leaders, including Governor Tim Walz and
Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey.
The investigation centers on public comments both made
after 37-year-old Renee Macklin Goode was
killed by an ICE agent two weeks ago.
Officials in the Twin Cities are calling the
subpoenas an intimidation tactic, while the administration accuses
Walz and Frey of using heated rhetoric.
Meanwhile, those opposed to the federal immigration surge
in Minneapolis are calling for a general strike
on Friday, encouraging residents across the state to
stay home from work and school and refrain
from shopping in an act of protest.
More than 300 businesses have said they plan
to close.
Well, that's going to be great for everybody.
Hey, why don't I just go burn some
money?
I don't need it anyway.
I'm going to close my shop.
This is what I think the chat room
was referring to is this general strike tomorrow.
But it's only in Minnesota.
I mean, the general strike that was called
for nationwide was on the anniversary of the
inauguration, which was the 20th, where we had
the old ladies coming out.
Well, I'm putting my stock into the shusher.
I think Scott's shushing down the mountain bascent.
He's the guy that's following the money.
Yeah, well, you're blocking law enforcement.
Here's a subpoena.
But, you know, if they can really start
to uncover some of the actual fraud and
tie it back to their PayPal, you know,
that would be something.
I wish they would.
I think that, you know, we take it
for granted, you know, supposedly all Somalis, and
they're putting, you know, $750 million in cash
in a box, shipping it in an airplane,
and all this other stuff going on, bull
crap.
And they can't find it.
They're not going to get to the bottom
of it.
They just don't have the wherewithal.
Yeah, but see, I think they do.
Well, let's hope so.
I hope they do.
I think all money is infinitely traceable unless
it's, you know, well, yeah, the Somalis with
piles of cash, yeah, that may be a
little bit harder, but there's got to be
stuff.
Bascent seems to, you know, I mean, this
is what Doge was.
Doge was going in, connecting into the system.
All right, here's your API.
You want to track any dollar.
As long as it's transferred digitally, we can
see where it eventually went.
And then if it's taken out in paper,
well, okay, then you got to go get
boots on the ground, feet on the street.
I think, you know what?
I just, I am hopeful about it.
I'm hopeful.
Because if it doesn't happen with this president,
it'll never happen.
Then I'll just be like you.
If it doesn't happen with this president, it
will happen with a president that has, you
know, there is a, you know, Trump is
kind of always seems to be walking on
eggshells when it comes to like really using
his authority.
You'd like to say, well, if he tells
Bondi to do it, she'll do it.
But he doesn't do that.
She hasn't done anything.
Not yet.
So talking about do nothings, I will, I
will give you this one.
We have the Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein,
Epstein, and the justice department is slow walking
the release of more files.
I personally think the slow walk is a
reason to delay something until the midterms.
I'm hoping that's it because that would be
fun for the show.
It may just be because they don't have
anything or they don't want, I mean, who
knows?
There's so much stuff we'd love to see
you and I both.
I mean, think about it.
Just be wonderful for the show.
So president Trump saved the show.
But then we have the Clintons who, who
are kind of messed up their, their subpoena.
the house oversight committee took the next step
towards a full house vote that would find
Bill and Hillary Clinton, the former president and
former first lady and secretary of state and
presidential candidate in contempt of Congress because they
didn't agree.
They defied the subpoenas related to the Epstein
investigation.
If you were providing legal advice to the
Clintons, what would you tell them?
Well, I would have told them to show
up in the first place.
I think the big mistake is they fought
this subpoena by sending a bunch of letters
to the committee, but they never went to
court to challenge the subpoenas.
And now as a result, they've walked themselves
right into what I think is likely to
be a contempt charge.
It's already gotten through the committee.
It next goes to the full house.
But today on the committee, nine Democrats on
the oversight committee voted for contempt against Bill
Clinton.
Three voted for it against Hillary Clinton.
If it gets through the house, it goes
to DOJ next where Pam Bondi and Todd
Blanche are going to have the decision.
I think the Clintons have played this wrong.
I think they've showed hubris in defying this
subpoena.
And if they want an example, not saying
they're going to jail, but if they are
going to complain about this, Peter Navarro, Steve
Bannon defied congressional subpoenas charged with contempt prosecuted,
they went to prison for four months each.
So you think that if they had challenged
the, what would, what would have been the
basis to challenge the subpoenas?
So the argument they've made is these subpoenas
are not tied to any valid legislative purpose.
The house has said, we need to hear
from you, Bill Clinton, because we're writing new
anti-human trafficking legislation.
The argument that they've made that they should
have made to a judge is what does
Bill Clinton's knowledge about what Jeffrey Epstein was
doing 30 years ago have to do with
writing anti-human trafficking legislation now, but they
haven't gone to court.
And so they've left themselves exposed to what
I think will be contempt charging.
So the, that was a good, that guy
was right.
That was a very good analysis by the
whoever that was.
I forget who this is, but it was,
I have one clip on this.
Okay.
And it's the one that's got contests, this
contempt, or where's the name of this thing?
Epstein contempt.
Uh, yeah.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Happening on Capitol Hill today, the house oversight
committee votes to hold Bill and Hillary Clinton
in contempt of Congress.
That's after they refused to appear and testify
in a probe on Jeffrey Epstein.
Today was a big day for accountability.
I'm very proud of the work that oversight
committee has done thus far on the Epstein
investigation.
I'm very happy that, uh, we had a
bipartisan vote.
Right.
You're yelling through your own clip.
Sorry.
Today to hold the Clintons in contempt of
Congress.
And this shows that no one's above the
law.
And I'm just real proud of the committee
and look forward to, uh, hopefully getting the
Epstein documents in, uh, very quickly and, and
trying to get answers to the American people.
The vote to hold former president Bill Clinton
in contempt was 34 to eight.
While the vote for former secretary of state
Hillary Clinton was 28 to 15.
The committee first subpoenaed the Clintons to testify
in its probe into sex trafficker, Jeffrey Epstein
back in July of last year, both failed
to show up earlier this month.
After initially signaling they would cooperate, the contempt
charges will head to the full house floor
for a vote.
Committee chairman James Comer said today he hopes
the justice department can release all of the
Epstein files quickly.
The Clintons were not accused of any wrongdoing
in relation to Epstein, but Bill Clinton was
seen in multiple photographs with the sex trafficker.
The house oversight committee also subpoenaed Epstein accomplice,
Ghislaine Maxwell, who is currently in jail to
appear for a deposition on February 9th.
Yeah.
The narrative or the, yeah, the narrative is
really shifted from the disgraced finance here to
convicted sex trafficker.
That has definitely changed.
Uh, funny enough, I have a Comer clip,
which I was going to play just to
irk you.
Um, but there is, he does say something
here, which I think is the crux of
the matter.
It's not so much that they don't want
to appear.
It's how they want to appear.
Here's Comer caught in the hallways of Congress.
Is it important?
There's still an opportunity for the Clintons to
negotiate some sort of satisfaction of the subpoena,
even though you've taken this step with contempt.
There's always a, there's always an opportunity.
It's going to be two weeks before this
is on the floor.
Uh, we're going to have to notice this
is going to be treated like any other
bill.
We're making sure every I's dotted and every
T's crossed because they have a, uh, very
expensive legal team.
So, uh, obviously there are going to be
a couple of more days this week, depending
on the weather.
Uh, then there'll be three days notice and
then we can vote on it.
I've been assured we're going to vote on
it.
So that's two weeks because we're going to
be off a week.
They're going to have two weeks that they're
going to theoretically be able to negotiate.
But one thing that I want to make
very clear, a lot of what the Democrats
were saying today, and I don't, I'm not
accusing the Democrats on the committee of lying.
I'm accusing the lawyers for the Clintons of
not being truthful.
Uh, they, they, they were not in good
faith negotiating.
They never made a proposal, uh, where there
would be an actual transcript.
And I don't think anyone in the media
would, would accept any type of interview without
a transcript.
Then you're going to have notes and it's
going to be, uh, Clinton's word against my
word, Garcia's word against, it's my word.
That's no good, but you know, there should
be a, a recorded at the very least
transcript, if not audio and video, I would
argue all three of the, the deposition.
That is the law.
That is what is considered legal in court.
And I don't think anyone in the media
would argue against it.
So the way I hear this, they're like,
yeah, we remember when bill had his, uh,
deposition member sitting there in that little room,
as president with his Coke can of Coke.
And he said, I did not have sexual
relations with that woman.
They don't want to repeat.
He's happy to testify.
He just doesn't want anyone to hear his
testimony.
That's what, that's what's going on.
Because he knows that this just anything he
says is he's never going to, he's never
going to be able to outlive whatever comes
out.
So I think that's the negotiation now.
And of course, Comer, you know, Comer, he's
going to be just tough man.
He's tough guy.
He's going to stick to his guns.
You know, what's, what's interesting is about 50
% of our troll room audience, which is
just a temporary, temporary, you know, the thermometer,
you know, they are so there.
I think that you rub off a little
bit on them, although you're not like this
all the way.
But all day goes like the rot goes
all the way to the top.
Everything's corrupt.
Nothing's good.
It's all, none of it's good.
It's all horrible.
It goes to the top.
The head of the fish is riding.
I'm like, works for me.
I'm like, why don't you move to Canada?
Yeah.
Move to Australia.
But I hear, I hear Europe is a
real rot.
You know, that there are now trans Americans
who are fleeing to the Netherlands and requesting
asylum.
And they are actually being putting, being put
in asylum centers with insane asylums, no asylum,
asylum seeker centers.
And because they're already full with Africans, West
Africans, South, North Africans, there's they're intense now.
So, you know, there's all these articles that
the guardian has a big profile on it.
Like, but I just don't feel safe in
Trump's America.
So I got on a plane, I went
to Amsterdam and I said, I'm seeking asylum.
And the, and the guys at the border
went, uh, what?
Yeah.
Well, okay, here's a ticket.
Go to terror, which is, you know, the
train rail, like an hour train, hour and
a half train ride.
And they show up there.
They're like, what?
Yeah.
I'm seeking asylum.
I said, well, the center is full so
you can sleep in the tent.
That's how crazy people are.
In fact, the president doesn't take much to
figure that out.
When you watch Rosie O'Donnell or Ellen.
Yeah.
The president alluded to this a little bit
in his Davos speech.
I have a little piece here to embrace
the possibilities of tomorrow.
We must reject the perennial profits of doom
and their predictions of the apocalypse.
They are the heirs of yesterday's foolish fortune
tellers.
And I have them.
And you have them.
And we all have them.
And they want to see us do badly,
but we don't let that happen.
They predicted an overpopulation crisis in the 1960s,
mass starvation in the 70s, and an end
of oil in the 1990s.
These alarmists always demand the same thing, absolute
power to dominate, transform, and control every aspect
of our lives.
We will never let radical socialists destroy our
economy, wreck our country, or eradicate our liberty.
America will always be the proud, strong, and
unyielding bastion of freedom.
Yeah.
When I hear that, and if you hear
that and go, everything is rotten, Epstein files,
these are socialists.
You belong with the other people.
Get out of the country.
Yep.
And get out of the chat room.
Definitely out of the chat room.
Hey, with that, I want to thank you
for your courage in the morning to you,
the man who put the C's in the
contempt of Congress.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end, the one and the only, Mr. John
C.
DeMora.
In the morning to the trolls, hanging out
in the troll room.
Let me count you for a second.
1592, so.
We've done better, but it's not too bad.
I'm happy to have everybody here.
The weather.
It's good to have everybody here, because yes,
we don't even know if we'll have, well,
I'm pretty set for the show because I
have got the Jenny.
The generator is good to go.
So if the power goes and the power,
it's like if we really do have an
ice storm here, probably the power will go
out.
So I got the generator.
I've got, you know, everything's running.
I've got, what is it?
The, the, the UPS running on the studio
and on the router.
You have connection.
You have, unlike me, you have a connection
to Starlink just in case.
I had not one, but I have two.
I also have the, the Starlink mobile just
in case.
You never know.
You never know what happens.
It's supposed to have a heating element in
that dish.
I think it does.
So, but I have a backup.
And, uh, have the T-Mobile links.
Yeah.
I have the, the home Starlink.
And then they, I think we talked about
this.
Um, we have talked about it.
I didn't know you had one.
Yeah.
No, Elon had a deal.
It was like for five bucks a month,
you get the mobile Starlink and it's only
going to be five bucks a month.
So he sent me, you get all the,
all the gear with a little note from
Elon.
Thanks.
Uh, with five bucks.
Okay.
So if you activate it, then he started,
you gets charged for it, but it's those
five bucks in a bands.
Yeah.
Five bucks in the bands, five bucks in
the bag.
Ooh, show title.
That's an interesting ploy.
I've never seen that marketing tactic used for
something like this.
Okay.
Probably had to empty out the store, the
warehouse or something.
People weren't buying them, but I liked it.
So I got that.
I have the fiber, the fiber may stay
up for all, you know, I mean, the
fibers underground.
So, um, so I, I'm pretty sure I
will be here.
Um, I will try, I will try for
sure.
When's it supposed to hit Sunday this weekend?
Well, they said it's going to start Friday,
but then it's like, well, maybe Saturday.
Oh, in other words, there's nothing's going to
happen.
That's what I'm thinking.
I think it's going to be, I mean,
it may be worse, of course, in the
true, um, middle of the country and the
East where they have real action.
Yeah.
Pretty thing.
But we have, we have a, you know,
we have post-traumatic stress disorder here from
the previous snow apocalypse.
Yeah.
It was bad when we had that going
on.
Did we even do a show when, when
I was, I can't remember.
We always did a show.
We've never missed the show.
We've missed 18 plus years.
We've never missed the show.
We haven't had to put an emergency show
up either.
All the shows that are like, you know,
clip shows of sorts.
They're all original and they're all pre-programmed.
Yes.
Emergency pod.
I do an emergency pod.
We've never, that would be a true emergency
pod.
In our case, we've never done an actual
emergency pod for any reason whatsoever.
Right.
And almost 19 years.
Uh, so those trolls are in the troll
room and, uh, they, uh, are listening at,
uh, no agenda stream.com or perhaps they
have a modern podcast app, uh, which is
possible.
I, I feel like this is the year.
This is the year that Apple will do
the live stream.
They're crazy not to every radio station in
the world is figured out that transmitters are
not the way to go.
Uh, took 25 years, but okay.
So they're, they're going to, I think they're
going to add that feature pretty soon.
So you might as well get on board
now.
And of course, uh, Apple still has that
feature on their Apple TV.
What light live streams.
Don't they have live streams?
No, no.
Apple live streams of what?
Hmm.
Once you mentioned it.
No, no, there's no, there's no live stream
of football.
Didn't they buy some rights to some live
streams like baseball or football or basketball or
something?
Well, but that's sports.
I'm talking about radio or podcasts or live
streams or, you know, there's hundreds of thousands
of music streams.
There's all kinds of stuff you can get.
And what we did is we packaged up
the, the live stream with the episodes in
one RSS feed.
So you just subscribe to a show or
if you want, subscribe to a station, then
you get the shows and you get the
live stream and you can switch around and
notifications fire off when someone goes live.
And we've been doing that with, with no
agenda stream for, for years, for years, we'd
be doing the live stuff anyway.
So if you get a modern podcast app,
the idea is that you'll get notified when
we go live.
Another thing we pioneered is not doing ads.
Oh man, am I so happy about that?
What a race to the bottom that is
turning out to be.
Podcast industrial complex is hurting so much.
So instead we went value for value and
value for value was a very beautiful system.
We just give you value straight up.
Here it is in your face more than
three hours, twice a week of value.
No firewalls, no firewalls, no levels, no hoops,
no subscriptions.
You just send us whatever you think the
show is worth.
When you feel it's worth it, which we
hope is every single time you listen to
it.
In return, people do many things.
one of them is, well, we have value
for value is time, talent and treasure.
And we like a lot of the time
and talent that people put in, uh, to
helping us with the show boots on the
ground helps tremendously.
But also when someone knows how to use
the tools, he can usually knock it out
of the park.
And Oh man, Darren O'Neill, Baron Darren
O'Neill did it again with the artwork
for episode 1835.
You can upload all of your slop to
no agenda, art generator.com.
But sometimes Darren stuff just jumps off the
page.
And this book of yours, which acts as
my book, no agenda publishing presents JCD complains
again by Adam Curry forward by John C.
Dvorak.
And then beautiful, a beautiful little, um, what
do you call it?
Blurb blurb on the front.
I don't like it.
I mean, come on, this was a, and
you can tell when people are in my
timeline, like, I was just great art.
This is great.
And it's a concept, you know, anybody can
type something into the thing.
Like give me something funny about, uh, Greenland
and the no agenda show.
Wow.
Okay.
But when you do this and I, and
I wonder how many times it took Darren
to, to generate this one.
Probably once, you know, it's also, people will
send me songs.
Um, like, Hey, it took me 62 generations
to find, please give me your honest opinion.
And it's just an AI song.
Like, okay.
You wrote some lyrics and the lyrics are
cute, but the lyrics are written by AI
too often.
Yeah.
Often though.
Nico Simon uses AI to write his lyrics.
Yeah.
But you know, it's like, you know, what
do you, what do you want me to
say?
Oh, great.
I can't wait to spin it on my
show.
You know, it's like, no one cares anymore.
Music.
No one cares.
They don't.
We have get mo jams.com, which is
just all this AI slop.
It's fun.
It's fun to have an on the background,
but it's not like, you know, you're not
going to make a hit record.
No, it's not going to happen.
Don't go through.
What happens when it does happen?
Oh, what are you going to say?
Then I will eat my words, but it's
not going to happen.
It's not, you know, I say it will
say what will, that there will be a
hit song.
That's AI.
Okay.
Well, you want to put that in the
book and, uh, and what kind of timeframe,
two weeks, two weeks, I'll be on Linux,
but I'll be doing the show on Linux
before there's a hit song done by AI.
And AI has enormous headstart.
I'm not taking that.
I didn't say I didn't, I'm thinking years.
No, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Uh, let's see if there was anything else
that, uh, that jumped out.
I don't think so because everything is just
such high concepts.
Hmm.
Was there anything else that we liked?
We had no agenda, all of spray.
No networks keeps trying to bring in his
coffee cup, which is nice, but no, the,
you know, people skiing, Trump skiing, the, uh,
tick tocker Barbie.
No, this is nothing.
It's way too complicated.
Have you noticed this with these models?
It's like, it's, it's too much.
They're, they're drawing like complete cartoon cells.
Is that the right word for it?
Or like a panel, you know, where you
have a panel, a panel that sells it
for movies.
Yeah.
It has to be all detailed, all kinds
of stuff.
And it's too busy.
And give it, give us some, give them
some feedback, John, come on.
Like you're the art critic.
I didn't see anything here that was worth,
I mean, it was so obvious that Darren's
piece was the best, but you know, but
his pieces are always a little dumb.
I mean, his piece is busy too, but
like no agenda.
Crumb cake is an example of his stuff.
JCDs office.
We get to do this podcast joke.
Um, he's kind of interesting.
I don't know.
It's just like, maybe he should give a
class.
Yeah.
A mass.
Oh, we should call it a seminar.
A masterclass.
Yes.
A masterclass.
Okay.
A seminar.
Uh, thank you very much.
Artists.
Stop for a second.
I think $150 seminar, maybe a $250 seminar
one day or two days.
If it's two days, it has to be
more, but let's just say one day, four
hour seminar for 150, $250.
Uh, I'm doing a, I need to do
it over the web, make it a webinar.
You could do it over the web and
you could, uh, and Darren could, would get
10 people for starters and get the hang
of doing this sort of thing.
Uh, cause it does take a little skill
and then to see how that, how he
felt about it.
And then I think you can make it
a regular one every year.
He could do one, another one of these
and make, I think you make some money
with, uh, with a, especially with a webinar
where you can just load up with people
for 150 to $250 a pop and show
people how to do what he does.
Cause he does the best job of everybody
with, I'd say the possible exception of Jeffrey
Ray.
Yeah.
Well, why don't we do a podcast webinar
then?
We could.
No, I don't think so.
Well, see, you don't want, that's why we
don't.
No, of course not.
We can't even get, we can't get anything
done.
The obvious one with the podcast done barely.
Huh?
We show up, we're here, we're doing it.
We, we do love, but I think Darren
should think about this.
What I just said.
Yeah.
Well, so 1500 bucks.
No, I said 150.
Times 10.
Yeah, but it could be times a hundred.
Oh, okay.
Now you're talking.
And then, and what is the class?
How to make art for podcasts?
No, how to do, how to use AI
art generators.
Maybe this is for four artists.
Maybe this is all he can do.
Maybe it should be four.
I mean, he does other stuff for artists.
He's his song.
Making is quite good too, but he's got
it down.
He should transfer his knowledge to others at
a, for a fee.
I think they should have a whole university
with scare a manga for the, for the
babes.
Okay.
Well, I see you're not taking this serious.
I'm very serious about this.
Okay.
Well, whole university was scare a manga.
I don't think so.
As a part of the value for value
model.
We love thanking the people who supported us
with their treasure and that every single show
people do it and we appreciate it.
And that shows that they are appreciative of
what we're doing.
I think we're the calm and the storm.
We don't conform to the ways of this
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And like, Oh, I'm pretty proud of the
fact we have not talked about Don lemon.
Was everybody.
Oh, darling.
I make it easy to go to jail.
Yeah.
Every podcaster did it.
Every single one, all of them jumping on
it.
No, we get down to the meat of
everything.
We, we, we tell you what's really happening.
What's happening in the background.
We listen to the words.
So we thank everybody $50 and above.
And look at that coming in as he
does every month or so kind of depends
on where he is in the world.
Seronomous of dog patch and lower Slobovia with
a printed note, typed note, I should say
type notes and accompanied as usual in cash,
$4,648.
Holy cow.
Lots of $2 bills.
Again, eight, five, $8 worth.
Very nice.
And he always has a very thoughtful note,
which I will read now.
Cold read from seronomous of dog patch and
lower Slobovia.
Thank you to all producers for contributing so
much to this very rich open source data
resource.
Huh?
Do you think we're being used by intelligence
agencies as a resource?
I hope so.
After falling, I hope they send us more
donations because we are a resource and we
do analysis and, and we counter the, you
know, we can, I talked about this before,
you know, it is possible that somebody can
run a, run an op and can we
figure it out or do we get it
wrong?
If we get it wrong, that's kind of
interesting to somebody doing the op.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
So seronomous.
And we of course have no idea what
he's, what he's, what his vocation is.
Caterpillar salesman.
Yes.
After falling off the grid for several weeks
at missing year end, I'm making up my
value received deficit.
See, he understands the value for value model
perfectly falling off the grid.
Though, it's an interesting term.
It's not like he fell off overboard.
It's not like he wasn't listening.
He was literally off grid.
Yeah, he was doing something.
I'm enjoying your discussion on how difficult it
is to protect a monarchy and elitism as
the serfs gain awareness for lack of a
better term, anti-globalization in so-called Western
countries is increasingly promoted as a successful method
of recruiting sympathizers and motivating disparate groups into
common action.
The enemy of my enemy shares my goals
of goals of hegemony for my hegemony for
my country.
And without coordination can disrupt the current governing
bodies and move towards common ideals.
Hmm.
I haven't seen this phenomenon as strongly in
non-Western now independent former colonies of Western
empires.
He's talking about us.
Perhaps newfound independence has its cultural virtues.
No matter if 250 years ago ago or
only 75 years ago.
So what country gained independent 75 years ago?
It's always code with anonymous.
Yeah, it's a, there's a couple.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't have any off the
top of my head to have to ask
blood, but Claude wants to know more about
you first.
Yeah.
Claude wants to know what color am I?
Oh, India and Pakistan.
Yeah.
Okay.
India and Pakistan.
Yeah.
Troublemakers.
All of them.
Troublemakers.
Seronomous of dog patch and lower Slobovia.
Thank you so much.
As always, he says, no jingles, no karma.
We appreciate the value you return and it
makes us feel good because it makes us
feel like we have actually delivered some good
value to you, sir.
Thank you very much.
All right.
There we go to an anonymous donor from
Underhill, Vermont.
Hmm.
Odd place.
$600 to $1,000 and three.
And he has a very lengthy note, which
I'll attempt to, oops, let me get to
it.
Yeah.
Redact on the fly.
Oh, and then again, I opened the note
somewhere and now I can't find it.
I want you to, you have it open.
Yes, I do.
Itm crackpot and buzzkill from anonymous.
This donation has been a long time in
the making and is based on a promise.
I made myself in 2020.
I am a Rogan donation going all the
way back to Adam's first appearance.
I was working on a real estate project
at the time.
And I said, when this piece finally sells,
I'm going to send a good chunk to
the boys and get myself one of them.
Fancy night titles.
Well, the time has come and I've closed
on the property.
I'm sending some well-deserved treasury treasury.
He says your way.
He's a full blooded Gen X guy.
Adam was a big part of my culture
and of my stupid hair choices.
He said, so hearing Adam in 2020 blew
my mind.
My wife, wife and I were questioning the
COVID narrative right out of the gate and
hearing you to break it all down over
those crazy years meant the world to me.
We, you know, it's always interesting that, you
know, we loved it during COVID, but you're
wrong on Israel.
You're wrong on Trump.
You're wrong on all that.
Okay.
We live in California adjacent Vermont.
It's pretty much full blown bunch of commies.
They still wear masks and their Teslas with
stickers on the back saying, I bought this
car before I knew he was a Nazi.
This is kind of a good note.
Much like John, I'm a stranger living in
a foreign land that John's assimilated.
What are you talking about?
But it's just, I was born in California.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Assimilated, but it's just too beautiful to leave.
We are living the Noah gender prescribed lifestyle.
We grow our own gardens, have chickens, bees,
and our own, and our own beef herd.
We are homeschooling our kid and he has
a killer work ethic.
I'm a lifelong self-employed tradesman and my
son is working with me and will continue
the business.
Adam, you will be glad to hear our
family has accepted Jesus Christ as our Lord
and savior, hands down the best move of
my life.
Wow.
I want to thank you from the bottom
of my heart for all the joy and
laughter you've brought me over the past five
years.
He's back to both of us.
The only way to look at this crazy
world is with a critical eye and a
sense of humor.
And you two do it better than anyone
else.
The circle jerk of podcasters gets old quick
and you guys have a knack for this
that will never be able to be reproduced.
Okay.
Then he has a whole bunch of stuff
here.
Uh, but what he did want is, well,
he wanted a 33, 33, 33.
That is a Robilizer donation that has not
been achieved.
We have, uh, we have, uh, reserved that
for Robilizer donation.
So I will give you a 33 magic
number jingle.
He also wants an Obama.
You might die and he will be knighted
and he would like to be known as
fried guy under the hill.
And he would like raw milk and grass
fed steak at the table if possible.
Uh, yes, absolutely.
And we thank you so much for your
support of the best podcast in the universe.
33.
That's a magic number.
33.
It's the magic number.
You might die.
Onward with sir.
Eternus.
Is this cool?
Queevy, Queevy, Queevy, Queevy, Queevy, Laredo, Texas.
Queevy.
Oh, Queevy.
That's one of your buddies.
I'm not familiar with this buddy.
Sir.
Eterna.
Eterna is Quibby.
Adam.
Yes.
Adam, what do you think about all the
luxury hotel thingies in Fredericksburg?
Uh, kind of lame.
Love you guys.
Uh, kind of lame.
Love you guys for being the best ever.
Well, 500 bucks.
That's a big donation.
So you have to answer that question.
Yes.
I'm happy to answer question.
Um, there is no stopping this.
We have a huge shortage of beds in
Fredericksburg.
People love coming here.
we have a lot of drinking barns that,
uh, cover as wineries.
And, uh, I love that we have kept,
uh, our main street, our town, old school,
no, uh, no big boxes, no big hotels.
So it's all being built outside.
No, it's all being built outside of the,
uh, of the, of town.
And, and it's good because we had a
STR laws here, short-term rentals, also known
as Airbnbs.
And it's just crazy.
And so you can't buy a house and
the kids can't buy a house because everyone's
turning it into Airbnb.
So I'd much rather people come and stay
at a hotel.
So it's fine.
Is great.
Fredericksburg is fantastic.
We love our tourists when they leave.
Wow.
Then we drop right away to associate executive
producer, $250 for Sir Commodore J Stroke from
Norton, Ohio.
And he says, Hey, I love the swarm
forge episode.
The show was a rollercoaster ride, but showed
why you guys are the best.
That's why I listened to you guys more
than my wife.
Uh, okay.
Uh, no wonder he has, he's using his
night name.
The pregnancy in space theory has me remembering
my old, the old Muppets bit pigs in
space.
Yes, of course.
I remember that.
I appreciate you and John calling each other
out.
Keep griping.
It's great entertainment.
Anyway, I'm sending in some value.
I would like to credit a portion of
my donation to George, the neighbor, uh, $50.
He shouldn't be listening in douchebag status.
50 to Robin, the daughter don't skip over
the donation segment.
50 to cap and canoe.
He knows who he is.
And 50 to chupacabra canoe.
I love those guys.
I'm hitting people in mouth.
I am doing the work.
I am not a slacker.
I appreciate the tips and Eli, the coffee
guy.
He sends a note with every order.
Such a great connection.
Can I please get an OPA?
Can I please get an Obama phone lady?
Thank you for your courage, sir.
Commodore J stroke.
Yeah.
Borderline racist.
Oh, please.
She said it.
Yeah, she did say it.
Yeah.
Like the Eli, the coffee guy who was
mentioned in the previous note in Bensonville, Illinois
comes with two Oh one 22.
And he says, watching the Davos crowd, Davos,
Davos crowd, sit there nodding while being told
they were stupid.
And he says, we're buying expensive windmills from
China was pretty entertaining.
Yeah.
These are the people who think they run
the world and they just got reminded who
the big dog is.
Europeans may want to overpay for windmills, but
producers should not overpay for good coffee.
Plus we just released a new Kenyan Kenyan
Kenyan coffee in our black bag series.
I've tried.
Have you tried it?
Actually, I have it in the machine right
now.
It's good.
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ITM 20 for 20% off your order.
Stay caffeinated.
It says Eli, the coffee guy.
Yeah.
It's an outstanding product as is the product
from Linda Lou Patkin.
Who's in Castle Rock, Colorado.
She always asks for jobs, karma.
And she says for a competitive edge with
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Let's vote for jobs.
Karma.
We had a bank check from Steven's big
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No note was sent alongside.
And so we'll give him a double up
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We sure will.
You've got karma.
And that's it for executive and associate executive
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We single these people out because they are
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I forgot to bring this up before the
break.
When we were talking about technology, have you
heard of donut lab?
Donut lab.
Yes.
Don't know.
Some of the police department does no donut
lab.com.
Get ready to roll your eyes.
They have launched and it's in production.
So it's not vaporware.
A, the world's first all solid state battery
in production vehicles that hold a 400 watt
hour per kilogram charge or the energy density,
I guess I should call it, which seems
to be a close to revolutionary.
Not to look into it.
Yeah.
Donut lab.com.
Because, you know, I'm the guy that says
all these flying cars and all this nonsense
is bull crap.
But.
Well, even before that, even when they were
running flying cars with motors, it was bull
crap.
So I don't think a longer lasting battery
fault line car is going to be any
good.
No, it's a very, this is a very
big difference.
What you can do with electric motors in
aviation, particularly in a horrors, you know, in
a vertical, a vertical takeoff, very big difference.
What you can do with, with electric engines
and propellers versus a combustion for a whole
bunch of different reasons.
But if they can really get this, and,
you know, they say a five minute charge,
full charge in five minutes, limitless cycles, cheaper
and safer than lithium ion.
Yeah, sure.
I told you would roll your eyes.
Well, you know, hey, my big gripe has
been battery technology that was promised has not
improved.
These guys seem to think they have it.
Battery technology is perfected in the late 1800s.
Right.
But how does a solid state battery even
work?
I don't know what they mean by it.
Maybe they're talking about a capacitor, you know,
which can charge pretty quickly, you know, super
cap.
I mean, that's possible.
Yeah.
They don't see, I do have a, we'll,
I'll look into it.
We'll talk about it.
Okay.
Maybe get some clips.
Okay.
But I have a point of reference that
we have to discuss.
I'll get some battery clips.
Okay.
Some battery clips.
You clearly want to talk about something else.
Well, I don't want to talk about anything.
I don't, I don't know.
Jack, you about the donut battery.
So what am I going to do?
I can't talk about it.
Die.
What do you have?
One of our, one of our producers wrote
in a note, noticing that the two of
us were, you mainly are me mainly.
I don't know.
Cause I haven't been able to spot it
saying, by the way on the show, ah,
did I do it this time?
I, I can't, still can't hear it.
I only time I heard it was when
we were looking for clips for the last
show.
And then you said it, and you know,
you're doing a needle drop to find a
clip.
And you said, by the way, and there,
I said, there it is, but I can't,
I have not heard it on the show.
I'm glad you brought this guy's documented it.
I'm glad you brought this up because I'd
even forgotten.
We talked about it and I, and I
was the first one to say, I need
to stop this.
That is a very bad habit.
If I, and I'm sure I'm saying it
more than you are.
Well, it's got to stop.
I don't know.
But the problem is I can't stop it
because I can't hear it.
I have yet to hear it on today's
show.
The last show, the show before that, I've
never heard it.
This stuff, like I said, by accident, that
I'm, so I figured I'll throw a couple
of these out there.
Cause these are the kinds of things you
like to bitch and moan about.
Uh, we, we try to correct it.
We don't say at the end of the
day anymore.
No, no, pretty much.
And that's being said all over the place.
Still Mimi's bitching about it.
She says, that's what you should bitch about
the end of the day.
And so that's being said all over.
But the thing, the two I've noticed that
have cropped up all over the place, especially
on Fox.
Yeah.
Is to your point.
Ooh, that's an ugly one.
And they're saying it constantly.
And then I, I was listening to Nick
Fuentes on the, uh, Tim pool cast.
Yeah.
And he's not only said to your point,
he said it twice in one sentence.
Well, he said to your point and to
your point.
Well, this is interesting.
This is interesting.
I'm looking at the being at.io clip
genie.
Yeah.
And so you can search by an exact
term, putting it in quotes, episode 1827.
It was done 17 times, 1826, 18 times,
1825, 21 times.
Ooh, uh, 1823, 13 times.
So we do seem to skip it from
time to time.
I don't see anything after 1827, which is
interesting.
I don't know why.
Um, but these numbers are off the chart
and I guarantee you it's me.
Let me see.
Let's uh, let's do a needle drop on
this.
Um, that's, that's interesting.
I don't know why it wouldn't be after
1827 because we've had nine episodes since then.
So I think it would have, would have
been in there.
Well, it should be because the guy caught
it three episodes ago.
Hmm.
Uh, so what is this?
Let's listen to this.
Oh, media could not be loaded.
What?
What's failing us?
Something's failing.
Oh, Linux.
Hmm.
No, it's not.
Wait, let me finish my little complaint.
Okay, sure.
Yeah, I know you're not on Linux.
I'm just joking yet.
So to your point, and as you hear
it all, it's a, to your point, to
your point, why do they, why are they
saying that so many?
And here's the one that really goal.
It's just like, when did this show up
as, as a throwaway, these are throwaway lines
that people use for, can I just stop
there?
Let's just stop it to your point, to
your point.
When someone says to your point, it means
shut up.
I have a better point.
I think that's what that means.
Yeah.
Well, maybe to your point.
And the one that's always getting me now
that it's just, cause I keep hearing it.
It's they, they're the CNN, by the way,
to your point, I, I blame on Fox.
You just said, by the way, I just,
I just caught you saying it.
Great, great five lashes.
And so the one I'm hearing on CNN,
is the other side, the other side, as
in the other, back to you after we're
going to come back from the other side,
the other side, they keep referring when you
go to a commercial break.
Yeah.
They throw to it as we're going to
talk about this on the other side.
Oh, that's Adam.
Adam, hold off on that thought.
We'll get to it on the other side.
Oh, that's their version of, we'll be back
in two and two.
That's Chuck.
I guess, but it's the other side.
Yeah.
They'll keep saying the other side as though
there's some side.
So we've lost the art of the teas
is what you're telling me.
They don't know how to tease anything more.
It's just, uh, yeah, that's definitely it.
I would say, uh, that's a negative tease
because it doesn't tease.
Yeah.
We'll get back to you on the other
side.
Oh man.
There's been so many who did no clicking,
no clicking.
Was that Stephen Colbert?
No, I think that was Larry Sanders.
Oh, you're right.
It was done as a joke.
Fake show.
Yes.
Fake show.
Yeah.
Cause people used to use the other, I've
heard the other side used before a long
time ago.
It's just making a resurgence, but it's fake
and gay.
It's no good.
I mean, the fact that you have to
take a break anyway, just be like a
podcast and just interrupt the conversation.
Like most podcasts.
Oh, I mean the Joe Rogan show, it's,
it's unlistenable on the podcast.
It's, and it's in the YouTube too.
Like just breaks in middle of a conversation.
It's when someone, these are those insert inserts.
Yes.
DAI dynamic ad insertion.
It just insert in the middle of word.
No, they, no, it's usually when someone takes
a pause and someone, I've heard it right
in the middle of a word on some
of these YouTube videos, not on his, but
yeah, but he, cause his are inserted.
I think it's a separate system.
It's not the YouTube system.
I'm not sure, but it's annoying.
And you know, this is the big, they
just had the big podfest in Orlando podfest.
You go into podfest.
No, but it's podfest.
I didn't even hear it.
Oh, podfest.
Everyone's going to podfest.
Oh, it's a podfest.
And we all talk, talk about AI at
podfest.
So did you get any reports?
Yeah.
You know, I was talking about AI and
video, video, video is video.
That's there's your report from podfest.
Um, but the other thing is, uh, listeners
are getting tired of the ad load.
The ad load.
Ooh, I like that term.
Ad load.
Ad load in my pants.
Ad load.
Yes.
The ad load is too heavy.
And what happens is you get the same
ad load as AM or FM radio.
That's where it's going because there's unlimited supply,
which means you have to have more ad
load to make the same amount of money.
It's an, it's a spiral.
It's a death spiral.
It is a death spiral.
And why need you need ads at all?
I have a report, which I have not
seen anywhere.
Uh, it's kind of relevant to Greenland, although
not really part of the relevant to the
narrative, but I did not know this happened.
Around 3 PM on January 18th, the largest
rare earth refining and processing plant in China
exploded.
It was the Baotou Baogong rare earth steel
plate factory in inner Mongolia.
The sound was deafening.
And in an instant, a huge shock wave
sent a circular storage tank flying into the
air.
The tank shot up dozens of meters high
before falling back down, leaving a massive crater.
When it hit the ground, a white mushroom
cloud rose into the sky visible for miles
around.
It happened during work hours with many people
in the factory.
Surveillance footage shows a bright flash of light
bursting from inside the plant, followed by a
loud thud.
The area was instantly engulfed in thick smoke
with steel beams, iron pieces and debris flying
everywhere.
The explosion severely damaged the plant buildings.
The control room collapsed and the iron door
of the high pressure chamber was blown several
meters away.
Videos posted by netizens show a thick smoke
lingering over the site.
Nearby residential buildings had their windows shattered by
the blast.
Did you hear about this?
No, but that had to be a hydrogen
tank or something.
It was circular.
Well, you can see it shooting up in
the air.
It looked like a barrel size thing.
Yeah.
What is the process of refining?
I don't know.
Now that you mention it, I'd be very
interested in figuring it out because there's, I
can imagine them using some gases to.
Well, they're talking about high pressure door and
all this stuff.
Yeah, that would be hydrogen.
Um, cause that's what we've always heard is
that, um, the rare earth is like, okay,
the rare earths aren't the problem.
It's the processing of the rare earth.
And this.
Yeah.
Pain in the ass.
It seems to be a dangerous pain in
the ass.
So it looks like it.
Yeah.
So, but if this is their largest rare
earth processing, you'd think that might be important
for the news.
You think that they'd cover something like that?
I have two zoomer Jen zoomer versus boomer
stories.
I'd like to share.
Okay.
Um, and we say this with love and
respect for our zoomers.
We just want to try and educate you.
We're not laughing at you.
We're laughing with you.
Uh, I would run a sales team for
a midsize.
The company that provides payroll and benefits surface
services exclusively in the U S recently, I
was on a zoom call with one of
my gen Zed reps and a prospective client
during the conversation became clear that the prospect
also needed services in Canada.
Since we only operate in the United States,
I ended the call early afterwards.
My gen Zed rep asked why we couldn't
help them.
I explained that Canada has different employment laws
and operates in a different currency.
She asked what I meant by different currency.
Exactly my response.
So I clarified that Canada uses its own
money.
She was genuinely surprised and asked if other
countries also don't use us dollars and instead
have their own currency.
It was an unexpected reminder of how different
generational experiences can shape baseline knowledge.
This has to be an education issue.
Oh, it has to be.
I don't, it has nothing to do with
the generation.
It's the, I mean, that's just, but she's
a rep, she's a sales rep.
she's got far enough along in her life
that she's got a real job doing real
work and making real money.
Yeah.
But she doesn't think that she somehow thinks
that the U S dollar is the world's
currency, which in a funny way it is,
but not the way she thinks.
No.
Well, it soon will be once the stable
coin gambit kicks in.
We'll see.
The other one was a personal experience and
I'm not laughing.
yeah, you are.
Yeah.
I'm laughing.
So I'm having coffee with Parker.
Parker's 30.
He's here in Fredericksburg.
Then, you know, I, we have coffee once
a week and he sent a donation in
a couple of weeks ago.
I remember sending $300.
Is he a Zed?
He's a 30.
He's a zetter.
And he says, by the way, I can
prove that John is lying.
He uses, he uses his phone all the
time.
I'm like, he does.
No, I don't believe that.
Yes, he does because he even has on
his email, it says sent from his phone,
which is, you know, I've been, been complaining
about people with sent from my iPhone.
Yeah.
So I said, um, let me pull up
an email.
Oh, you mean it says sent from his
Bakelite phone?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the one, one letter at a time.
He had to put that in there.
I had to show him a picture of
what a Bakelite phone is.
Oh, oh, oh, he says, oh, okay.
I get it.
Another thing that is just, it's lost the
history, the concept of a Bakelite phone.
Huh?
Yeah.
I kind of like that.
Even if it said landline, it would not
be the phone that he's talking about.
No, but it says, yeah, I can see
this being lost.
It's gotta be lost.
It's an inside joke for old, older people.
Let's face it.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
Um, well, we added to the list of
things that the Zedders need to get their
act together about.
Well, I don't know how important it is
for them to know that, but I think
it, it's, it's good.
Some for general, all round education, probably just
to know these things, just maybe me.
Um, and then another local story, which, uh,
we have covered before.
I think it happened around the COVID era.
Uh, I find this to be somewhat concerning
as does our agriculture guy here in Texas.
Where did this come from?
What is this for?
That's the reaction from Michelle shoulders.
After an unexpected envelope showed up in her
mailbox filled with mystery seeds, being a package,
you want to open it up and see
what's in there.
And then there's these seeds and you'd like,
where did these come from?
These are the ones that were being delivered
to people.
That's exactly what we got.
Shoulders runs little Millican farms.
And she tells me this wasn't a one
-time delivery.
She's now received several packages, each one raising
more questions.
There's no identification to know anything about them.
So it's kind of scary.
Those unanswered questions, according to Texas agriculture commissioner,
Sid Miller are exactly the problem.
We call those mystery seeds because we don't
know what they are.
Miller tells me that seeds come directly from
China, unlabeled and unsolicited could be a COVID
variant.
It could be, uh, anthrax or rising or
cholera or some kind of other bacteria or
virus, uh, that you can't see with the
naked eye since February of last year, the
state has collected more than 1100 seed packets.
Just this week, Miller's office confirmed three new
reports, 12 seed packets sent to residents in
Waco.
What if your kids broke into it and
it, or your dog broke into it and
it was something that was poisonous.
You don't know.
The Texas department of agriculture is urging Texans
not to open plant or throw them away.
Instead report the packages immediately.
They're not sending these over so we can
improve our crop system.
Uh, you know, there's something behind it.
And I hope we find out what it
is.
Preferably.
It's not going to be anything that's going
to be really detrimental to us.
Yeah, I know this happens, but it's, I
find this annoying that the Chinese are doing
this and they can't even identify what these
seeds are.
Oh, please.
What?
This, there is no way they can't identify
this.
Do they take, did anybody take them to
the university of Texas in Austin and maybe
to a plant guy and say, what are
these seeds?
And maybe grow a sample of them.
So there was no reporting on this.
It was, I know about this.
There's been no reporting in any way.
It's just a big scare.
I'm scare him.
Ooh, the Chinese are sending a seize.
Maybe it's a terrible weed or some invasive
species.
I'd like to know specifically what it is.
It is something.
Well, we have the same complaint.
That was the agriculture guy who was talking
about cholera.
That guy was an agriculture guy.
That guy there, he was, I don't know.
It could be a cholera seed.
Could be a COVID seed.
Could be COVID seed.
You put it down and you get COVID.
What?
That guy, that guy nailed it.
Do more of him.
He's good.
More of him.
Come on, do more.
Well, I can talk like this all you
want, but it's, I'm telling you, these seeds
are no good because they're coming in from
China.
It could be anything.
You you're hired.
The guy was literally sitting in his truck
doing that.
It could be anything.
I know.
I'm in full agreement with you.
It's very annoying.
Very, very annoying.
Anyway, let's see.
I do have, just because this is, I
think this is being misreported, is this board
of peace that Rubio seems to be running.
To me, it feels like this is going
to be a new United Nations type of
organization that they're setting up.
I have a clip of him at Davos.
He had a rather long Davos Davos here.
This is not just a board of peace.
This is a board of action.
Action.
Just like president Trump is a president of
action.
Action.
A lot of times people like to get
speeches.
I've been to many of these forums and
they're not useless and they're not, you know,
not, they have utility in many cases, but
oftentimes international affairs, we often find ourselves at
events where people are reading these scripted statements,
these strongly worded letters that they put out,
but no action, nothing happens.
This is a group of leaders that are
about action.
And the president United States is a president
of action of getting things done.
And today is the beginning of that, of
a new era and a new stage that
we think is so important as a model
to the rest of the world of what
is possible.
And clearly the focus is right now on
Gaza and making sure that the plan that's
about to be presented to you here today,
this vision for the future of Gaza, this
vision for the future of the region is
not just possible and promising.
It is our destiny.
If we put the time and the effort
that it requires, as I know this board
will do, but I also think it will
serve as an example of what's possible in
other parts of the world.
So here's the focus.
So this is our audience.
Our audience in the troll room is like
a billion dollar entry.
What a joke.
Yep.
Heil Rubio.
Heil.
It's like, just listen to him.
He's completely brainwashed.
Our vision for somebody else's region.
I mean, this is, I think this is
a good idea.
I like this idea of a board of
peace circumvent the whole United Nations circus, which
it is and have a bunch of dudes
from countries sitting together and going like, what
are we going to do here?
Like star fleet command your thoughts, Mr. Dvorak.
I'm not going to argue at all because
I think the United Nations should be folded.
Yes.
I never used to think that when I
was in college at the university of California
and we had a right wing, the bookshop,
we had the John Birch society bookshop in
the nearby town.
You racist, racist.
And a pharmacist that had bumper stickers all
over his windows that were all Birch bumper
stickers.
And looking back on him, he was right.
Yeah.
Including get the U S out of the
UN.
Right.
Yeah.
Oh, that was, that was another bumper sticker.
I recall that.
I remember that bumper sticker.
And the, there was two of the anti
-UN one was get the U S out
of the UN.
And the other one was calm.
U N ism was another bumper sticker that
they had.
I wish I had those collected those.
Those are pretty funny.
Can you put your hands on them?
No, no, I didn't think so.
All right, let's wind this down, Johnny boy.
I'm sure you have something else fun that
we can talk about before we go.
Well, I have a, uh, I have the
Barry Weiss is a spook clip that showed
up.
Ooh, Ooh, she's a spook.
Actually a couple of clips.
These are from Tim pool.
This is, uh, uh, Tim pool is on
Tim pool.
So, Oh, the circle jerk continues.
Yes.
And yes, it does.
But Tim, but I, but this little lecture
on Barry Weiss, I thought was good.
But before we play that, yes, I want
to play a very short Tim pool clip.
Tell me what you think makes him sound
like a douche bag on this.
Tim pool poker clip, but they're both really
cool.
Even, you know, someone told Ken that I
was bad mouthing him.
I'm like, never.
I was like, I said, you were my
best friend.
He's a liberal.
He doesn't like me.
He's always complaining about the videos I make,
but yet we joke with each other.
we get it.
We get along.
He's like, we talk more than anybody when
we're at the poker room.
And then, uh, South never says anything about
politics.
Cause he knows it's going to go off,
you know, but it's, it's good fun.
Everybody gets along.
Funny story is we were playing poker.
It's a two, five games.
So it's a thousand dollar buy-in and
we're all talking politics.
A thousand dollar buy-in would be the
douche bag clip.
A thousand dollars.
It's a thousand dollar buy-in.
I just slammed that down whenever I have
to baby.
It's a thousand dollar buy-in.
I'm playing poker for a thousand dollars because
I get my money.
I get paid.
Actually kind of misleading, but, but I thought
it was douchey, but here is a, they
go back and forth.
And then all of a sudden out of
the blue, Fuentes, who's in the group, he's
just one of the many people in that,
in this discussion on Tim pool, IRL, which
is on rumble.
Uh, listen, listen to this though.
This was interesting.
Sean, McGuire, Bill Ackman.
These guys are not white nationalists.
Now they're, they're like nineties liberals and they
get mad at Trump when he wants mass
deportations, you know?
So it's not like they, it's like they
became base defenders of Western civilization, unless you're
Sean McGuire who said we should self-consciously
pretend to be defenders of Western civilization because
Normie Republicans don't give a shit about Israel.
But if we gesture towards the West, then
we're going to get them on our side.
So I think it's a very subversive when
you really peel back the layers, Barry Weiss,
your Amazonia, they only care about Israel.
She's an Israeli spy.
Your Amazonia lives in Israel.
That is what they are about.
So Barry Weiss is an Israeli spy.
Oh yeah.
I mean, if you know her pedigree, absolutely.
What is it?
So after high school, she went to Israel
and did a fellowship and said, she learned
how important Israel is.
She goes to Columbia University where she starts
up the David project and tries to get
all these pro-Palestine professors fired in the
Middle East studies department.
Goes back to Israel, studies under Yoram Hazoni
at the Shalem Center.
Then she gets hired right out of that
program by Bret Stephens, who's like one of
the most well-known neocons.
Got to start at Jerusalem Post.
Then Murdoch owned Wall Street Journal.
He picks her up as her mentor.
Then he takes her to the New York
Times.
That's where she gets her start.
Then she starts Free Press and she gets
money from Peter Thiel, Marc Andreessen, Joe Lonsdale.
Joe Lonsdale is like a super Zionist.
Is Peter Thiel?
Oh yeah.
He's in business with Alex Karp, who said
his biggest fear is Christian nationalists are going
to defenestrate him because he's a Jew.
Defenestrate.
Yeah, throw him out of a window.
I don't know if she's a spy other
than an activist.
You know, he's, he had, just off the
top of his head he rattled off all
this material.
I just think.
You're a fan boy.
You love, you love, what's his name?
Fuentes.
You love him.
You're a fan boy.
I think he's fabulous, but he's, you know,
but I think he might be a spook.
Fuentes?
Yeah.
I mean, he went on a back and
forth with Tucker about, you're a fed, I'm
a fed, you're a fed.
I thought you were a fed.
And Tucker into the mic says, no, I
can tell you, I'm not a fed.
Fuentes never denied it.
They're recruiting him pretty young.
He's good.
But you know, spies, spooks don't typically have
the public jobs.
They're spook adjacent.
Yeah, okay.
You could be different.
It's different.
And she might be too.
Yeah.
I mean, for all I know, you might
be an asset.
I don't know.
I guarantee I'm not.
Are you?
Well, that's what I would say.
If I was an asset.
I'm not an asset.
No, I'm not.
You don't.
And you know, I'm not.
Yeah.
Do I?
You know, I'm not.
What's the correct answer?
Yes.
I know you're not my handler.
I'm going to show my spook by donating
to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah.
That'd be fab.
Yeah.
On No Agenda.
In the morning.
Yeah, and we do have a few more
people to thank.
Spooks are not spooks.
Probably not spooks because they're not donating that
much.
But they're donating a lot, especially Dame Rita,
who's coming up on the list.
And Adam's going to read the list off,
starting with her.
Well, yes, I am, John.
We're right back on the other side.
And Adam's right now.
He's going to do it.
That's right.
We're back on the other side with Dame
Rita from Sparks, Nevada, 13333.
And she says she always looks forward to
our excellent deconstruction.
There's Nathan Cochran from Mercy Me.
They got a new movie coming out, by
the way, the Mercy Me Boys.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
Yes, it's the follow up to their first
successful hit movie.
I can only imagine.
123.45. He seems to be the only
one of the group still that donates frequently.
Hey, look at this.
Dame Meowdeson comes in with 117.27. And
she says, it is I, Dame Meowdeson.
And with this donation of 111.33 plus
fees, I crossed the threshold to become Countess
Meowdeson.
Life has not become extra busy lately, so
I've missed some shows here and there.
Well, life has become extra busy.
But I'll do my best to stay current.
I did not miss that Samsung TV tip
and subsequently purchased said TV.
So just ignore whoever pooh-poohed the expensive
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It was an LG TV tip.
Yeah.
Well, she bought the Samsung.
Way to go.
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Wow.
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Welcome to the roundtable of the No Agenda
Nights and Days.
No Agenda Meetups.
Well, today is the day, the big meetup
in Sao Paulo, Brazil.
So, I don't really need to promote it
because it probably is nearing its end.
The Boiling in the Brazilian Heat meetup, 6
.33, in Sao Paulo at Pratina Restaurante e
Bar.
Oh, that didn't sound right.
The Britallian is hosting it, so I'm just
hoping we get a meetup report from that
Sao Paulo meetup.
Of course, these are the meetups where you
go to meet people who listen to the
show.
They're all over the world, as you can
tell.
And we love it when you send us
a meetup report, include your server.
Of course, you can find all of these
at noagendameetups.com.
These meetups are important for your sanity, for
your health, and for your protection.
Because connection gives you protection.
These people will be your first responders in
any emergency.
On Friday, you can go to the Midwest
Midwinter Meetup at 6.30 in Rides Banquet
Center in Fort Dodge, Iowa.
Oh, is that Charles?
I'm trying to think.
This should be big.
This should be a big venue.
Sunday, our next No Agenda episode, the Indy
No Agenda Still Shiny New Year Meetup, 3
o'clock at the Blind Owl Brewery in
Indianapolis, Indiana.
They're always guaranteed to send us a very
good meetup report.
About 100 people show up every single time.
Coming up the rest of this month, January
29th, Alpharetta, Georgia, the 31st, Oakland, California, and
Wilmington, California.
Looking ahead, man, we've got meetups all the
way through May.
Go to the noagendameetups.com.
That is where you will find every single
meetup listed.
It's very easy.
It's just like TEDx without all the bullcrap.
You just sign up and say, I'm going
to do a meetup.
That's right.
Wherever you are, your house, local bar, just
get it together.
Announce it.
We'll announce it on the show and send
us a meetup report.
noagendameetups.com.
They are always fun, always a party.
Coming up, some A.I. slop for the
end of show mixes, of course.
And we have John's tip of the day,
a big favorite amongst all the fans.
But before we do that, we do like
to pause and find something we're going to
play at the very end of the show.
It's known as the end of show ISO.
I do have three here.
I keep going first.
I mean, do you want to do yours
or are you still like I like you
going first?
OK, well, I will do mine first.
Here we go.
Thank you so much.
OK, that's just kind of generic.
Thank you so much.
Nothing special.
I have this one.
Oh, that's wonderful.
This one, I think, is actually a winner.
Freedom of speech.
I thought that was pretty good.
It's got to do with the show, but
OK.
Well, they don't all have to do with
the show.
We just made that up as some bogus
rule.
I've got three, too.
OK.
Let's start with belly.
That podcast was better than a slow belly
rub.
See, that guy's voice is getting really old
on me.
I'm not going to use it anymore.
OK, good.
Missed that for today.
OK.
Darn doodle.
Gully darn doodle.
What a great podcast.
It's the same guy.
I said I'm not going to use him
anymore.
OK.
How many times do I have to tell
you?
Yeah.
Except for today.
OK.
Here he is again.
This should have won the Golden Globe.
Well, since it's the last time we'll ever
hear him, I'm going to go with that
last one.
Although I thought...
Freedom of speech.
Although I thought that was a little nicer.
It's surprising.
This is a woman screaming.
Yeah, well, there you go.
Hey, everybody.
Before we leave, it's time for John's tip
of the day.
Green glass for you and me.
Just a tip with JCD.
And sometimes Adam.
Now, I feel obliged to do a Costco
wine tip about once a month.
Yay.
Costco wine tip.
Everybody loves a Costco wine tip.
The thing is that, you know, you have
to pick wines that you know they have
a ton of.
And since they had pallets and pallets and
pallets of this wine, then they were discounting
it to $6.98 or $0.99, something
like that.
Wow.
$6.99. Cheap.
It's a California Cabernet.
It's not really a winery.
It's just one of these, what you'd call,
one of these wines somebody put together and
put a label on it.
They made it themselves.
Oh, it's a blend.
Well, it's not a blend.
It's Cabernet Sauvignon.
But it's like a – it's not from
a winery.
It's from a packaging group called Precision.
It's basically leftovers.
Not necessarily leftover.
But you could say that.
And sometimes the leftover wines are really expensive
and you can't sell them.
Well, you would never steer us wrong.
So, no matter what it is, it's going
to be good.
I liken the price point.
It's actually quite good for $6.99, whatever.
And it's called Method.
Method.
Meth.
It's Method.
Meth.
Meth in a bottle.
Method.
M-E-T-H-O-D.
Cabernet Sauvignon, California, which means that they brought
in grapes from God knows where everywhere.
But it's a mix of appellations, obviously.
And it's 2022.
And they had just tons of this stuff.
And I said, they had a couple of
different wines in the big batches.
The one was $19.
And I said, you know, this audience, they
like the cheap stuff.
Can this be good?
So, I bought a bottle to see.
I was quite surprised on how good it
was.
It's big.
It doesn't have mega purple in it.
You could tell by the cork.
So, it hasn't been jacked up with a
bunch of chemicals.
It seems to be extremely well made.
It has a nice finish, a nice flavor.
For the price, it's ridiculously good.
It's cheaper than those Bordeaux's they've been pushing.
Yeah, it's cheaper than that Modavi stuff, too.
I just bought two bottles of the Modavi
at the HEB.
They were restocking.
Yeah, the Modavi stuff is good.
This is the cheapest we've had so far
as a tip.
I mean, your wine tips really knock it
out of the park every single time.
Thank you.
You should just do wine tips all the
time, as far as I'm concerned.
But it's kind of hard to do two
a week, I guess.
Is it?
Well, yeah.
Because without going to more expensive stuff.
Like, once you get to $25, $30 bottles.
It's hard to find $6.99 wine that's
really good, as opposed to finding, yeah, $40
wine that's really good.
I can do that.
But nobody wants to hear that.
No, no, we don't.
That's like a $1,000 TV.
Nobody wants to hear that.
We got pushback on that TV.
Excuse me.
It comes in tight.
I love this tip.
Tina's going to Costco, I think, this week,
depending on the snowpocalypse and the ice storm
of the century.
But I will definitely ask her to pick.
Does it come in the individual bottles?
Or can you pick up a six-pack?
No, it's the individual bottles.
But you might want to pick up two
or three.
Six-pack.
A six-pack.
Give me a six-pack of that stuff,
baby.
It's good stuff.
Ladies and gentlemen, where else do you get
the tip of the day?
Only on No Agenda.
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And sometimes add-on.
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Yes, noagendafund.com, tipoftheday.net.
Great tips.
In fact, I think it's a bonus for
people who stick around to the end of
the show.
If you just jump to the end to
get the tip, shame on you!
You will get coal in your stocking next
year.
Which brings us to the end of this
No Agenda episode.
We hope you enjoyed the deconstruction of the
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What are you doing?
You sound like a broken voice box.
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Coming to you from the heart of the
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we love our hotels outside the city limits
in the morning.
Everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
Dan from Northern Silicon Valley.
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