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And it's often quite good.

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Adam Curry, John C.

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DeVora.

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It's Thursday, December 12th, 2025.

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This is your award-winning give on Asian

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media assassination episode 1824.

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This is no agenda.

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Seizing big boats and broadcasting live from the

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heart of the Texas oil country here in

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FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam Curry.

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And from Northern Silicon Valley, we're tired of

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all these AI robot dogs.

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I'm John C.

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DeVora.

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It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.

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In the morning.

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What AI robot dogs are you referring to?

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Oh man, they're all over the place.

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In Berkeley?

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Just running around?

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No, AI robot dogs.

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Where are they?

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On TikTok, on YouTube.

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No, go on Amazon and just look up

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AI robot dog and you'll see all the

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I watched a whole ad for one called

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Wuffy.

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Wuffy?

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Which I don't even believe is a real,

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I don't even believe this is a real

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product because every time I see pictures of

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it, it's a different size.

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It's big, it's small, it's stinky.

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Something's up.

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This is a throwback to AIBO.

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That's what this is.

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Wow, 959 bucks?

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No, no, there's $50 ones.

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We're talking about the cheapies.

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Yeah, but if you're going to get a

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robot dog, get a good one.

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Well, you don't know that that's any better

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than a $49 dog.

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A puppy pie.

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Puppy pie robot dog with chat GPT, large

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AI models, AI embodied intelligence, ROS, robotic dog,

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vision science, voice understanding, slam mapping, navigation, bionic

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quadruped robot standard kit with Raspberry Pi 5,

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4 gigabyte.

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Hey now.

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Yeah.

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Did you see the video of one of

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Elon's robots, the Optimus Pi?

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Optimus Pi.

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Optimus Pi.

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Can I say something first?

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I think when you announced the show, you

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said it was the 12th.

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It's actually the 11th.

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I thought I said the 11th.

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Did I say the 12th?

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I think you did.

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That's the only reason I noticed this because

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I just didn't feel it.

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Well, it clearly says 11th on my cheat

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sheets, my script that you sent me to

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read like you always do.

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Read this.

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I always send you a very elaborate script

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which you rarely read.

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Well, I read it.

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I just read it wrong.

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You always go off script.

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You're always wondering.

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It makes it very difficult to do the

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I know.

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So there was a Tesla Optimus and it

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was showing off how it was, I don't

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know, handing out glasses and doing drinks and

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stuff.

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it reach to its head with one hand

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on each ear and then make a motion

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like it's taking its headset off, which of

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course it doesn't have.

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And then it falls backward, completely disabled.

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It takes its head off?

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Well, no, like its headset.

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So really the implication here is that this

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thing is being operated by someone else who

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accidentally didn't know that they were live on

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the robot, took their headset off and the

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robot disconnects and falls backward.

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Oh, that's hilarious.

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These things, you know, this goes back to

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To every tech demo.

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Every big tech demo ever done in the

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world is fake.

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People have to realize this.

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You see these demos, they are all fake.

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Once in a while, somebody tries to do

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one live and it's always, without fail, screws

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So they don't do them, rarely do them

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live because of that.

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It's like the one with Steve Jobs.

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He did something live once and put you

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on the air accidentally.

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Oh, no, no, hold on, hold on.

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That was, that was not an accident.

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What Steve Jobs did with my podcast was

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on purpose.

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He knew exactly what he was doing.

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Okay, well, then it was rigged.

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That was rigged too.

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Whatever the case.

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These things, I can go back and there's

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demos of these machines they used to bring

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They were talking about the 1980s.

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It was 40 years ago.

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They would bring a machine out.

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It would do all this stuff.

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They have a big screen.

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It would be doing this and that.

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And it was rigged to some Unix system

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down the street.

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It wasn't even anything close to being realistic.

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These demos are all phony.

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Yeah, pretty much all of them are.

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Well, I see this all the time in

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the AI demos, like Google's day and all

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these other things.

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You're like, oh, well, it'll work better in

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the product we're rolling out on Monday.

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Don't worry, we'll fix that.

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Yeah, right.

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None of this, none of this works.

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Tomorrow it'll be fine.

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None of this works.

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I have one of my streaming stations that

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I had in the prompt very clearly up

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to and including but not after December 6th

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mentioned this Christmas concert.

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And of course, December 7th.

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Oh, make sure you catch the Christmas concert

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on December 6th after it just said it

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was December 7th because there's no intelligence in

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these things.

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So, A, it makes the mistake of not

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following my direction.

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And B, it's not smart enough to figure

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out that it makes no sense.

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And that's Gemini.

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Gemini.

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Gemini.

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Gemini.

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Gemini.

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So good.

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Gemini's supposed to be one of the more

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gentle ones.

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Well, you heard about the Gemini, didn't you?

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No, I don't follow it.

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Ah, here, I got the Gemini for you.

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Here is your Secretary of War.

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The future of American warfare is here.

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Here.

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And it's spelled AI.

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As technologies.

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And it's spelled AI.

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So I think it's warfare, like a, like

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Vanity Fair.

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Warfare, maybe.

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It's spelled AI.

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The future of American warfare is here.

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And it's spelled AI.

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As technologies advance, so do our adversaries.

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But here at the War Department, we are

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not sitting idly by.

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Under the leadership of President Trump, America will

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lead the charge on this technological transformation by

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revolutionizing the way we win.

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And that's why today we are unleashing GenAI

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.mil. This platform puts the world's most powerful

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frontier AI models, starting with Google Gemini, directly

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into the hands of every American warrior.

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At the click of a button, AI models

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on GenAI can be utilized to conduct deep

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research, format documents, and even analyze video or

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imagery at unprecedented speed.

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Whoa, it can format documents.

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Building on the great work of Undersecretary Emile

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Michael and his team, we will continue to

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aggressively field the world's best technology to make

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our fighting force more lethal than ever before.

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And all of it is American-made.

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Hands up, Chinaman.

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I'm formatting a document.

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The possibilities with AI are endless.

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Now, let's get to work.

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Hold on a second.

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Stop it.

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Ooh, ooh.

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Did you hear that?

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He's got a little, he's got, listen to

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the end, he's got a little Department of

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War sound effect.

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The possibilities with AI are endless.

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Now, let's get to work.

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Ooh, I gotta use this.

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There's a bomb going off, a bomb went

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off.

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I gotta use this.

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Nice.

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This is too subtle.

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GenAI.mil, I can't get to it.

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No, it'll say that you're, if you go

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to GenAI.mil, it'll say that you're not

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on a DOW network.

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It doesn't even do that.

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Oh, oh, it did it for me.

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So I got the email from everybody, from

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the Secretary of War, which was kind of

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the same, but he says, the first Gen

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AI platform capability is Google Gemini, a frontier

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AI application that can help you write documents.

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Wow, we're winning.

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Ask questions.

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We can actually write documents with AI.

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Well, that's going to be very useful for

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people who can't read or write coming out

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of college.

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Conduct deep research, format content.

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Wow.

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And unlock new possibilities across your daily workflows.

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Gemini is the first of several enterprise AI

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applications that will be rolled out on the

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Gen AI platform.

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It is secure, certified up to impact level

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five.

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So if a bomb hits and is fully

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authorized to handle CUI, whatever, confidential something, I

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expect every member of the War Department to

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log in, learn it, and incorporate it into

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your workflows immediately.

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AI should be in your battle rhythm every

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single day.

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Battle rhythm.

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The what?

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Battle rhythm?

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Yes, should be in your battle rhythm every

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single day.

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Like when you're dancing, you're dancing around at

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the DoD.

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It should be your team.

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Gemini's keeping the beat?

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What does this mean?

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It should be your teammate.

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By mastering this tool, we will outpace our

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adversaries in document formatting.

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The power.

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While you're creating a wealth of paperwork, long,

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lengthy memos that could have been shortened by

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somebody who actually knows how to write.

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This is from our insider.

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Here's the email from Pete Hegseth that went

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out to everyone this morning about their Google

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Gemini AI called genai.mil. It crashed as

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soon as everyone noticed the icon.

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After this happened, it was forced on, oh,

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after this was forced onto everyone's devices this

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morning.

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Oh no.

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I'm not teaching our customers how to use

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this when they can't get the basics of

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Teams and SharePoint down.

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Overall, this was a complete failure on the

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Department of War end of turning this on.

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Yeah, that's right.

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Of course not.

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Now, people get confused even by the new,

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you know, I heard several people.

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Oh, Instagram changed everything.

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Oh, I don't know how to use it

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anymore.

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What?

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Yes, Instagram changed everything.

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It's horrible.

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Instagram is rolling out a new feature designed

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to give users more say on what they

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see in the app.

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And Good Morning America got an exclusive first

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look.

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Your algorithm lets you curate what you see

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in your feed, starting with real.

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Curate.

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It lets you curate.

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Curate, not curate, curate.

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Exclusive first look.

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Your algorithm lets you curate what you see

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in your feed, starting with real.

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Starting today, users will see a new icon

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in the top right corner.

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Clicking it will take you to a dashboard

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of your top interests based on what you

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engage with most.

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From there, you can tell the app which

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topics you want to see more of and

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which you want to see less of.

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Instagram says this will give users the power

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to take action in real time to improve

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their overall experience in the app.

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No, it'll give Instagram and Meta more information

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about you, you dopes.

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Yeah, because they're going to give you what

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they think you're going to like anyway.

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Yeah.

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But they want to see what you think

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you like so they can add that to

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the profile.

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Exactly.

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In Palantir.

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Yeah, you're exactly right.

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It's just a spying tool.

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And they're going to put it into Palantir

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and then they're going to nuke us all.

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It's always Palantir.

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You just have to always say Palantir.

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Black helicopter.

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Oh man.

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That's hilarious.

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You want to stick with AI because there

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was a great AI interview with Stephanopoulos.

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I'm glad to see.

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Yeah, I think we can do that.

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Okay.

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Because there's other stuff going on.

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But.

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Yeah, we'll get to the other stuff.

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But we might as well do this.

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All right.

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The guy's name is Nate Suarez.

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I think Suarez.

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Suarez or Suarez.

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Well, it's S-O-A-R-E-S.

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I think it's Suarez.

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Suarez, I think.

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He is the president of the Machine Intelligence

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Research Institute.

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Which you and I could have come up

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with.

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Yeah, I like it.

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It's a non-profit research institute focused on

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ensuring the development of safe and beneficial artificial

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intelligence.

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Okay.

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He was on the ABCs.

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Just over three years since the launch of

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chat GPT stunned the world and catapulted artificial

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intelligence into the mainstream.

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I love this read.

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I'm already completely jacked up and excited about

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what's about to happen.

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AI revolution.

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Artificial intelligence.

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Artificial intelligence or AI.

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That technological revolution now sparking a growing divide.

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Divide.

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Sounding the alarm.

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Sometime in the next 20 years, these things

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will get smarter than us.

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And we really need to worry about what

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happens then.

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And others touting AI's potential.

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The best case scenario is that AI diffuses

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into everything that we do.

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Everything's more efficient.

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But as artificial intelligence gets smarter by the

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day, the federal government has struggled to keep

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up in the last few months.

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What do you mean?

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We can format documents.

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Hello, we're not struggling.

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It's in our battle rhythm, pal.

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Yeah, we're, yeah.

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President Donald Trump welcoming tech luminaries to the

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White House and setting ambitious AI goals.

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America is the country that started the AI

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race.

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America is going to win it.

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Trump rolling back Biden era AI regulations and

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installing entrepreneur and tech investor David Sachs as

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his AI and cryptocurrencies are.

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It's really the job of government to enable

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the private sector and get the red tape

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out of the way.

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And the president pressuring Republicans in Congress to

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pass legislation prohibiting states and local governments from

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regulating artificial intelligence.

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I thought he already did that.

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I thought that was in the one big,

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beautiful, dynamic, fantastic, amazing bill.

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I don't think it was.

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Oh.

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In any way, warning over regulation is threatening

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to undermine this growth engine.

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A flurry of bills have been proposed, but

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not a single piece of notable AI regulation

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has ever cleared the House or Senate, despite

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some members expressing mounting concerns.

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Can I get hired if I can talk

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like this on ABC?

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Because it's just so incredibly engaging.

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A super intelligent AI could replace human beings

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in controlling the planet.

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AI companies stress while risks for the technology

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exist, they say the potential benefits are nearly

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limitless, and that they're constantly improving their algorithms

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to improve interactions.

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Meanwhile, Congress seems stymied.

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The fair is, if you regulate it, you

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slow it down.

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If you don't regulate it, you have people

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that could get hurt.

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00:14:48,180 --> 00:14:49,420
Ooh, they're going to get hurt?

436
00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,540
Well, this guy who's with Stephanopoulos is a

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real piece of work.

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You're going to love him.

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Thanks to Jay for that.

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We're joined now by Nate Soares, co-author

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of the new book, If Anyone Builds It,

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Everyone Dies, Why Superhuman AI Would Kill Us

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All.

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00:15:02,980 --> 00:15:03,420
Wow.

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00:15:03,820 --> 00:15:04,960
Great title, by the way.

446
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It's a great title.

447
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That's the price of admission right there.

448
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You know, it should have had an endorsement.

449
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Read this book, John C.

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Dvorak.

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Yes.

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Mr. Soares, thank you for joining us.

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I'd definitely plug that book.

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Of course.

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This morning, I want to start out with

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a summary of your thesis that you write

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in your book.

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I'm going to put it up on the

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screen.

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Yes.

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If any company or group anywhere on the

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planet builds an artificial superintelligence using anything remotely

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like current techniques based on anything remotely like

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the present understanding of AI, then everyone everywhere

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on Earth will die.

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That is about as stark a warning as

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you can possibly get.

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Can you spell it out for us and

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tell us why you believe that?

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You know, I wish it was fiction, but

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the way that we make AIs today is

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like growing an organism.

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I like this.

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We should start using AIs.

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Don't just say AI, but AIs, like their

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thing, like their living, breathing thing.

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AIs.

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Yes.

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I think the reason for the plural is

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because he's referring to the different versions.

481
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Oh, yeah.

482
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No, I understand.

483
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But you could say large language models.

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You can say, but he's saying AIs, like

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they're an entity.

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It's just, it's subtle.

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We're all going to die.

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Thanks to Jay for that.

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Oops, sorry.

490
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Let me get back to our guy here.

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Here he is.

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I wish it was fiction, but the way

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that we make AIs today is more like

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growing an organism than it is like carefully

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crafting a piece of traditional software.

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The AIs we make, they have the very

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beginnings now of goals or objectives, or so

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it seems.

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We don't really know what's going on inside

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them.

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They have the very beginnings of goals and

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objectives that we didn't try to give them.

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They have emergent behavior that their operators never

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intended.

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Oh, yeah.

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Listen to his examples.

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In lab scenarios, we've already seen them sometimes

508
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try to escape the lab or blackmail the

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operators.

510
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The old blackmail.

511
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That's a lie.

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Bullcrap stories designed to get attention.

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And this guy, if he buys that, then

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he's no good.

515
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But this is a classic example of somebody

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who's suckered by the memes.

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But he's on ABC with Stephanopoulos and we're

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doing a podcast.

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So, you know.

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Yeah, he's getting attention, obviously.

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They're too dumb right now for that to

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work.

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But if we keep rushing to make AIs

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that are smarter and smarter to the point

525
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where these sorts of things succeed, then the

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most likely outcome is they become much more

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powerful than us.

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They pursue goals nobody intended, nobody wanted.

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And the most likely outcome of that is

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that we die.

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Not because the AIs hate us, but because

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they are utterly indifferent.

533
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It would be sort of like ants under

534
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a skyscraper.

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Will be like ants under a skyscraper crushed

536
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by the AIs.

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And of course, Stephanopoulos is all in on

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it.

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As you know, many of your critics have

540
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said this is more like science fiction than

541
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science.

542
00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,740
One of the problems with Stephen Marsh, for

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example, in the New York Times, pointed out

544
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is he haven't fully defined your terms like

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intelligence or super intelligence.

546
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He says the book reads like a Scientology

547
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manual.

548
00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,380
So why don't you start out by defining

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that artificial super intelligence that you're so worried

550
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about?

551
00:18:22,260 --> 00:18:24,540
Now listen to this, because the guy totally

552
00:18:24,540 --> 00:18:25,860
slammed Stephanopoulos.

553
00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,680
Yeah, we do actually define the terms in

554
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the book.

555
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If he had read, I think it's in

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chapter one.

557
00:18:33,020 --> 00:18:34,900
Thanks for interviewing me, you douche.

558
00:18:35,140 --> 00:18:35,840
It's in the book.

559
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It's chapter one.

560
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But OK.

561
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Thanks.

562
00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,060
Why would he?

563
00:18:41,580 --> 00:18:42,080
Of course.

564
00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,520
We define artificial super intelligence as an AI

565
00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,780
that is better than the best humans at

566
00:18:47,780 --> 00:18:48,860
every mental task.

567
00:18:48,940 --> 00:18:50,760
Oh, that means better than President Trump because

568
00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:51,660
he's the best human.

569
00:18:51,660 --> 00:18:52,340
He had an MRI.

570
00:18:52,660 --> 00:18:53,500
He aces all the tests.

571
00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:54,820
So he aces everything.

572
00:18:55,780 --> 00:18:57,060
That's not the sort of AI we have

573
00:18:57,060 --> 00:18:57,520
today.

574
00:18:58,220 --> 00:19:01,500
But the AIs of today, many people's only

575
00:19:01,500 --> 00:19:03,900
experience with AI is chat GPT.

576
00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,960
It's just as crappy as all of the

577
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:08,600
other ones.

578
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,620
People who have been in the field of

579
00:19:10,620 --> 00:19:12,700
AI understand that the field of AI is

580
00:19:12,700 --> 00:19:13,440
a moving target.

581
00:19:14,060 --> 00:19:16,380
That sometimes people come up with insights, come

582
00:19:16,380 --> 00:19:18,320
up with new ways of doing AI that

583
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,760
unlock whole new domains of AI like chat

584
00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,620
GPT and the large language models of today.

585
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,240
One of the big questions is what happens

586
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,200
when there's new insights?

587
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,220
What happens when there's new breakthroughs?

588
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,520
These companies are rushing to make AIs that

589
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:32,520
are smarter than every human.

590
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,960
And once we get these super intelligent AIs,

591
00:19:37,140 --> 00:19:39,400
I think the most likely outcome is that

592
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,360
they don't do exactly as the humans say.

593
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,340
So what I kind of like about it

594
00:19:45,340 --> 00:19:47,540
is he's saying they're dumb because they are,

595
00:19:47,660 --> 00:19:50,660
you know, all of this super intelligence, super

596
00:19:50,660 --> 00:19:56,320
GROK 5-9, chat GPT 2.000. It's

597
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,580
all better, it's faster.

598
00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,640
All we get is the same dumb lady

599
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,440
talking to you.

600
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,040
What else can I do for you today?

601
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,160
And I know you're saying you're agnostic on

602
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,660
exactly how the extinction would happen, but just

603
00:20:08,660 --> 00:20:09,720
lay out one possibility.

604
00:20:10,300 --> 00:20:10,400
Extinction.

605
00:20:10,660 --> 00:20:13,300
Lay out a scenario so I can write

606
00:20:13,300 --> 00:20:13,820
the movie.

607
00:20:16,020 --> 00:20:18,500
You know the one easy way for an

608
00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:21,040
AI to take out humanity would be a

609
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:21,420
virus.

610
00:20:22,020 --> 00:20:22,540
A virus.

611
00:20:22,820 --> 00:20:23,920
They're going to take us out with a

612
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:24,420
virus.

613
00:20:24,980 --> 00:20:26,260
How's he going to do that?

614
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,180
Well, he'll explain.

615
00:20:27,620 --> 00:20:30,440
As you say, I'm not sure exactly how

616
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:30,960
it would happen.

617
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,880
It's a little bit like trying to predict

618
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,660
a football game between an NFL team and

619
00:20:35,660 --> 00:20:36,300
a high school team.

620
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,920
It's hard to predict the plays.

621
00:20:38,060 --> 00:20:39,260
It's easy to predict the winner.

622
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,940
The sort of real question here is something

623
00:20:41,940 --> 00:20:44,200
like, what will the AIs be pursuing?

624
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,060
Will they do exactly what the operators say?

625
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,220
And we're already seeing the very beginnings of

626
00:20:50,220 --> 00:20:52,360
evidence that the answer is no, just like

627
00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:53,580
theory has predicted for years.

628
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,720
Do you see any evidence that anyone is

629
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,440
doing anything to control this?

630
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,260
A lot of the optimists about AI say

631
00:20:59,260 --> 00:21:01,620
that you can calibrate the systems internally.

632
00:21:04,580 --> 00:21:06,880
People are trying to control these AIs.

633
00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:11,460
Yeah, to get them to do something useful

634
00:21:11,460 --> 00:21:13,800
besides format a document.

635
00:21:14,620 --> 00:21:17,320
The type of work that people tend to

636
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,760
do tends to fall into evaluation metrics, trying

637
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,460
to see how dangerous the AIs currently are,

638
00:21:26,140 --> 00:21:28,780
and interoperability research, which is trying to understand

639
00:21:28,780 --> 00:21:30,540
what is going on inside the AIs.

640
00:21:31,220 --> 00:21:33,660
With any other technology, like with a nuclear

641
00:21:33,660 --> 00:21:36,200
reactor, if you ask people, how do you

642
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,220
know you're going to be able to make

643
00:21:37,220 --> 00:21:38,200
this not melt down?

644
00:21:38,620 --> 00:21:40,220
And they said, well, we have two teams,

645
00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:42,560
one who is trying to figure out what's

646
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,660
going on inside there, and another saying, we're

647
00:21:45,660 --> 00:21:47,200
measuring whether it's currently exploding.

648
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,420
You might not be very confident that these

649
00:21:49,420 --> 00:21:51,440
people are on track to do the job

650
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,040
properly.

651
00:21:52,260 --> 00:21:53,560
Oh, brother.

652
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,360
We're all going to die!

653
00:21:54,360 --> 00:21:55,900
Well, that was a bad analogy.

654
00:21:56,180 --> 00:21:57,380
It's a horrible analogy.

655
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,760
I've got 30 seconds left from this jamoke.

656
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,340
How much time do we have?

657
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:01,900
Oh, no!

658
00:22:02,140 --> 00:22:03,020
We're all going to die!

659
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,460
You know, the timing is very hard to

660
00:22:10,460 --> 00:22:10,740
call.

661
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:11,180
Yeah.

662
00:22:11,860 --> 00:22:13,060
Oh, but wait a minute, he could pick

663
00:22:13,060 --> 00:22:13,920
the football winner.

664
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:14,760
Yeah, easily.

665
00:22:15,020 --> 00:22:16,880
He knows who's going to win.

666
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,720
Could be that next year, the AIs will

667
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,340
still be pretty dumb, but they'll be just

668
00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:23,720
barely smart enough to make smarter AIs that

669
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,700
make smarter AIs that make smarter AIs.

670
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:26,660
Oh, okay.

671
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:27,860
Oh, please.

672
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,140
We're not going to get into that.

673
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,840
This is the opposite of entropy.

674
00:22:32,140 --> 00:22:32,400
Okay.

675
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,420
And then things could go very quickly.

676
00:22:34,980 --> 00:22:37,240
It could be that it takes 10 years.

677
00:22:37,380 --> 00:22:39,180
It could be that the current AIs stay

678
00:22:39,180 --> 00:22:42,760
kind of dumb, and it takes 10 years

679
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,120
to have some new breakthrough that unlocks new

680
00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:47,920
AIs, like last breakthroughs, like previous breakthroughs, unlock

681
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:48,740
chat GPT.

682
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,900
Mr. Suarez, thanks very much for your time

683
00:22:50,900 --> 00:22:51,200
this morning.

684
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,600
We're all going to die!

685
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,680
You actually kind of nailed it with that

686
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,300
one little comment, which is it's a violation

687
00:22:59,300 --> 00:23:00,180
of the laws of physics.

688
00:23:00,460 --> 00:23:02,900
The entropy is what happens all the time.

689
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,160
Yes, it's not like it's only going to

690
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:05,600
get worse.

691
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,620
AI will make a worse AI, not a

692
00:23:07,620 --> 00:23:08,380
better AI.

693
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,440
It's always going to degrade.

694
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,880
Yeah, it has to deteriorate like everything else

695
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:14,040
does.

696
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,860
So they're going against the very laws of

697
00:23:16,860 --> 00:23:18,200
nature, Mr. Beale.

698
00:23:19,220 --> 00:23:20,760
None of this works.

699
00:23:22,900 --> 00:23:24,480
There's a reference nobody gets.

700
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:25,960
Yeah, a few will get it.

701
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,520
Meanwhile...

702
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,280
We never explain it, by the way.

703
00:23:30,380 --> 00:23:31,480
We're never going to.

704
00:23:32,660 --> 00:23:34,680
We even have an end of show makes

705
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,120
we've played from it, Mr. Beale.

706
00:23:39,300 --> 00:23:40,040
I'm sure we have.

707
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:40,600
Let me see.

708
00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:42,620
Beale.

709
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,740
Maybe not.

710
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:45,220
I can't.

711
00:23:45,220 --> 00:23:46,540
I'm looking at my clip list.

712
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,800
This is terrible.

713
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,380
I have a bunch of clips called Untitled.

714
00:23:55,540 --> 00:23:57,940
And I was like, what is John doing?

715
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,560
He doesn't want me to see the titles

716
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,040
because, you know, that was I have to

717
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,840
go review that on the slide here to

718
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,040
see what that really was.

719
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,840
And then I have climate spelled VLIMET.

720
00:24:09,260 --> 00:24:11,140
That is going to keep you busy for

721
00:24:11,140 --> 00:24:11,500
hours.

722
00:24:11,740 --> 00:24:12,380
But you know what it is?

723
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,740
It's I love it.

724
00:24:13,820 --> 00:24:14,360
I love it.

725
00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:16,800
If I didn't have that, I think the

726
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,460
A.I.s had taken over you.

727
00:24:18,940 --> 00:24:20,100
So now at least I know.

728
00:24:20,220 --> 00:24:21,500
I mean, I usually go back and try

729
00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:23,120
to fix the spelling errors on these on

730
00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:23,700
these clip names.

731
00:24:23,820 --> 00:24:26,040
Like I got Iceland.

732
00:24:26,300 --> 00:24:29,360
I-C-E-K-A-N-D for

733
00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:29,860
Iceland.

734
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,060
Meanwhile, just sticking with A.I., short little

735
00:24:36,060 --> 00:24:36,560
notice.

736
00:24:36,860 --> 00:24:39,700
The European Commission launched a probe into Google

737
00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:42,000
over its use of online content to power

738
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,400
its A.I. services.

739
00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:47,040
The investigation will examine whether Google use web

740
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,300
publishers content to provide generative A.I. services

741
00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:53,840
on its search result pages without appropriate compensation

742
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,400
and without giving them the option to refuse.

743
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,600
It will also assess whether videos uploaded on

744
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,240
YouTube are used to train Google's generative A

745
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:02,800
.I. models.

746
00:25:03,780 --> 00:25:06,160
According to the tech giant, the complaint could

747
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,340
hinder innovation in a market that is more

748
00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:09,540
competitive than ever.

749
00:25:09,740 --> 00:25:11,100
Yeah, you bet it will.

750
00:25:11,260 --> 00:25:13,540
These lawsuits are coming fast and furious.

751
00:25:13,540 --> 00:25:14,920
Well, I'm part of one of them.

752
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,160
I know, thanks to Rob, our constitutional lawyer.

753
00:25:19,380 --> 00:25:20,340
He hooked you up, right?

754
00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:21,220
Told you where to go.

755
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,000
Yeah, yeah, we got in on that.

756
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,800
We have to fill another series of forms.

757
00:25:25,340 --> 00:25:27,980
Yet, I have 27 book titles in my

758
00:25:27,980 --> 00:25:29,440
name, believe it or not.

759
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,420
Wow, that's a lot.

760
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:31,860
I know, it should be listed.

761
00:25:31,940 --> 00:25:33,360
Somebody should list those on the Wikipedia.

762
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,800
Let's see if it's in Grokopedia.

763
00:25:35,940 --> 00:25:36,820
It won't be.

764
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,960
It has to be listed somewhere as a

765
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:39,240
whole.

766
00:25:39,380 --> 00:25:40,120
We haven't done that.

767
00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:43,920
So, and they want, it's like, it would

768
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,540
be $3,000 a book if they can,

769
00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:47,640
if there's any connection.

770
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,180
And I think probably at least half of

771
00:25:49,180 --> 00:25:49,300
them.

772
00:25:49,820 --> 00:25:51,640
But the thing is, of course, I'm going

773
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,820
to need the money with the kind of

774
00:25:52,820 --> 00:25:54,420
donations we're getting for this show.

775
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,580
Just thought I'd throw that in.

776
00:25:58,500 --> 00:26:02,000
You're going to wind up with 75 bucks.

777
00:26:03,300 --> 00:26:05,380
No, usually a buck 50.

778
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,860
I mean, it's just that these class actions,

779
00:26:07,860 --> 00:26:09,860
but they're claiming.

780
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,600
But I'm sure there'll be other suits coming

781
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,000
up.

782
00:26:14,460 --> 00:26:17,540
I mean, yeah, it's a winner for anyone

783
00:26:17,540 --> 00:26:19,200
who has any kind of, well, if you're

784
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,940
a big copyright owner.

785
00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:24,280
The music business is just getting started.

786
00:26:24,820 --> 00:26:27,780
But just as a reminder, Silicon Valley doesn't

787
00:26:27,780 --> 00:26:28,480
think about that.

788
00:26:28,580 --> 00:26:31,580
Their model is you give us everything, we'll

789
00:26:31,580 --> 00:26:34,220
give you nothing, and we'll take all the

790
00:26:34,220 --> 00:26:34,500
money.

791
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,200
Yeah, that's a good model.

792
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,580
If you're on that side of it, it's

793
00:26:39,580 --> 00:26:40,300
a great model.

794
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:44,840
Just to remind everybody, here's the Microsoft CEO

795
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,300
of AI, Mustafa Suleiman.

796
00:26:47,780 --> 00:26:49,980
With respect to content that is already on

797
00:26:49,980 --> 00:26:52,660
the open web, the social contract of that

798
00:26:52,660 --> 00:26:54,980
content since the 90s has been that it

799
00:26:54,980 --> 00:26:55,800
is fair use.

800
00:26:55,980 --> 00:26:58,580
Anyone can copy it, recreate with it, reproduce

801
00:26:58,580 --> 00:26:59,100
with it.

802
00:26:59,220 --> 00:27:01,300
That has been freeware, if you like.

803
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,520
That's been the understanding.

804
00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:05,860
There's a separate category where a website or

805
00:27:05,860 --> 00:27:08,600
a publisher or a news organization had explicitly

806
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,240
said, do not scrape or crawl me for

807
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,460
any other reason than indexing me so that

808
00:27:13,460 --> 00:27:14,860
other people can find that content.

809
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,360
That's a gray area.

810
00:27:16,460 --> 00:27:17,560
And I think that's going to work its

811
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:18,600
way through the courts.

812
00:27:18,740 --> 00:27:23,180
So if I find a Microsoft Windows 12

813
00:27:23,180 --> 00:27:25,740
on the web, it's okay for me to

814
00:27:25,740 --> 00:27:27,320
download that and use it, I guess.

815
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,040
Yeah, yeah.

816
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:30,640
It says everyone understands that it's fair use.

817
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,420
It's unwritten.

818
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:34,460
Just unwritten understanding.

819
00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:36,720
If you said don't scrape me, that's a

820
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:37,460
gray area.

821
00:27:39,020 --> 00:27:39,460
Gray.

822
00:27:39,460 --> 00:27:41,920
I didn't see anything on the Windows download

823
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,720
that said don't download me.

824
00:27:44,580 --> 00:27:45,520
Didn't say that.

825
00:27:45,740 --> 00:27:45,980
No.

826
00:27:47,660 --> 00:27:49,920
I think the best though, and then we'll

827
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,280
wrap up technology for today.

828
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:56,100
By the way, that commentary, that guy should

829
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:57,640
be fired.

830
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,480
I'm sure he's still there.

831
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,020
Oh, I'm sure he is.

832
00:28:01,220 --> 00:28:02,420
But that, I mean, he's an idiot.

833
00:28:02,540 --> 00:28:03,640
I'm sure he got in someone's head.

834
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,180
You're an idiot.

835
00:28:04,180 --> 00:28:05,060
Why'd you say that?

836
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:07,000
But he's like, isn't it true?

837
00:28:07,460 --> 00:28:08,000
Isn't it true?

838
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:09,120
Those people believe that.

839
00:28:09,380 --> 00:28:10,060
He probably thinks it's true.

840
00:28:10,180 --> 00:28:11,940
I mean, you can get to the point

841
00:28:11,940 --> 00:28:15,160
in these situations where you start believing your

842
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,880
own public relations.

843
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,140
Oh, that happened with Windows 95.

844
00:28:22,860 --> 00:28:25,000
That's when they started believing their own PR.

845
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,960
Here is the latest though, which I thought

846
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,680
was kind of interesting, semi-related to technology

847
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,960
and immigration and visitors.

848
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,120
Well, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection

849
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,640
has proposed this major expansion of the information

850
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,080
required for an ESTA application, which is used

851
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,620
by tourists from those visa waiver program countries.

852
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,020
That means countries where travelers can stay in

853
00:28:46,020 --> 00:28:47,620
the U.S. up to 90 days without

854
00:28:47,620 --> 00:28:48,720
needing to get a visa.

855
00:28:48,860 --> 00:28:50,880
Now, for the last few years, there's been

856
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,020
an option to include your social media handles

857
00:28:53,020 --> 00:28:54,120
on those applications.

858
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,960
But under this proposed change, which still has

859
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,540
not gone into law yet, that would now

860
00:28:58,540 --> 00:29:01,900
become mandatory and people's profiles would have to

861
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:04,980
be made public meaning that officers could comb

862
00:29:04,980 --> 00:29:06,840
through up to five years of data that

863
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,300
people have posted online.

864
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,260
They're also going to be asking in this

865
00:29:10,260 --> 00:29:13,380
application for phone numbers and email addresses used

866
00:29:13,380 --> 00:29:14,920
within the last five years, as well as

867
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,080
names, dates of birth, places of birth, residences

868
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,820
and telephone numbers of immediate family members as

869
00:29:21,820 --> 00:29:22,000
well.

870
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,220
Now, the process will also move away from

871
00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:26,560
the website that CBP has and move to

872
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,940
a mobile app, which will mean that features

873
00:29:28,940 --> 00:29:32,960
like passport chip verification and mandatory live selfie

874
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,000
check and facial recognition will all now be

875
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,420
able to be used as well.

876
00:29:37,580 --> 00:29:39,780
It's worth noting, though, that these changes are

877
00:29:39,780 --> 00:29:41,840
already in effect for anyone looking to get

878
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,820
an immigrant class visa to the U.S.

879
00:29:43,860 --> 00:29:45,700
or anyone coming here on a work or

880
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:46,380
study visa.

881
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,080
But this marks a noted shift from the

882
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,480
administration with regular tourists from typically allied nations

883
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,840
now coming under increased scrutiny.

884
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,480
According to one immigration law office, the kind

885
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,640
of things that officials are looking for include

886
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,240
expressions of hostility towards the U.S. government,

887
00:30:02,660 --> 00:30:05,500
comments interpreted as support for extremist groups, online

888
00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:09,640
affiliations with flagged organizations, as well as inconsistencies

889
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,920
between online content and submitted application materials.

890
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,220
But really, the scope for what is considered

891
00:30:16,220 --> 00:30:18,940
against U.S. interests is what is concerning

892
00:30:18,940 --> 00:30:20,300
some groups now.

893
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,100
You know, I have conflicting thoughts about this.

894
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,880
I want to follow up that clip with

895
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,900
some clips and then can you bring in

896
00:30:29,900 --> 00:30:30,700
your thoughts then?

897
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,440
Okay, I'm sure it's all relevant.

898
00:30:32,460 --> 00:30:33,940
Because I want you to play this clip

899
00:30:33,940 --> 00:30:36,080
so you can hear the word terrorist.

900
00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:37,980
The clip is terrorist.

901
00:30:42,010 --> 00:30:46,940
I don't see the clip terrorist.

902
00:30:47,860 --> 00:30:49,780
Did you read?

903
00:30:49,860 --> 00:30:50,600
Oh, there it is.

904
00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:51,620
Yeah, I got it.

905
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,120
Tourist.

906
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,520
What was that?

907
00:30:54,980 --> 00:30:55,380
Tourist.

908
00:30:55,620 --> 00:30:56,100
Terrorist.

909
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:56,880
Tourist.

910
00:30:57,300 --> 00:30:57,780
Terrorist.

911
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,300
Tourist.

912
00:30:58,380 --> 00:30:58,860
Tourist.

913
00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,500
Sounds like terrorist.

914
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,140
Okay, you're hearing tourist.

915
00:31:01,140 --> 00:31:03,120
Because I heard this clip from the BBC

916
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,900
and the first thing I thought was tourist

917
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:06,920
or terrorist, not tourist.

918
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,640
But okay, let's go with tourist proposal BBC.

919
00:31:10,940 --> 00:31:13,240
This is their coverage of the same topic.

920
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,040
Tourists from dozens of countries seeking to visit

921
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,600
the United States could be asked to provide

922
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,440
a five-year social media history as a

923
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,460
condition of entry.

924
00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:25,140
The proposal would affect people who are eligible

925
00:31:25,140 --> 00:31:28,100
to visit without a visa under the ESTA

926
00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:28,660
scheme.

927
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,820
Tom Bateman reports from Washington.

928
00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:33,940
Under the new proposals, it would become mandatory

929
00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:36,900
for applicants to supply details of social media

930
00:31:36,900 --> 00:31:39,660
accounts used in the last five years, as

931
00:31:39,660 --> 00:31:42,740
well as when feasible, say officials, phone numbers,

932
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,680
email addresses, and names of family members, as

933
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,700
well as other details.

934
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,940
The changes are still only proposals put out

935
00:31:49,940 --> 00:31:52,520
for consultation by the Department of Homeland Security,

936
00:31:52,780 --> 00:31:55,760
but are intended to fulfill the Trump administration's

937
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,140
demands for far more stringent border and immigration

938
00:31:59,140 --> 00:31:59,740
procedures.

939
00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:00,680
Okay.

940
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:01,500
Tourist.

941
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,420
And here's the second.

942
00:32:02,860 --> 00:32:04,420
The longer version is this one where he

943
00:32:04,420 --> 00:32:06,180
says terrorist.

944
00:32:06,860 --> 00:32:08,460
Tourists from dozens of countries.

945
00:32:08,540 --> 00:32:09,100
See?

946
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:10,580
He's saying terrorists.

947
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,660
Tourists from dozens of countries.

948
00:32:12,860 --> 00:32:14,560
I think, is he saying Tourettes maybe?

949
00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:15,660
Tourettes, Tourettes.

950
00:32:15,740 --> 00:32:19,120
Tourists from dozens of countries worldwide, including Britain,

951
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,280
Australia, and Japan could be required to hand

952
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,880
over five years worth of their social media

953
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,820
history before traveling to the United States under

954
00:32:27,820 --> 00:32:29,980
a new proposal from American officials.

955
00:32:30,540 --> 00:32:32,620
The rule would apply to visitors from nations

956
00:32:32,620 --> 00:32:34,880
that can currently enter the U.S. for

957
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,940
up to 90 days without a visa.

958
00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:39,740
The plans were outlined in a document filed

959
00:32:39,740 --> 00:32:42,020
by U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

960
00:32:42,660 --> 00:32:46,060
U.S. State Department correspondent Tom Bateman has

961
00:32:46,060 --> 00:32:46,340
more.

962
00:32:46,780 --> 00:32:48,700
It all stems from an executive order that

963
00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:51,780
was signed by Donald Trump the day he

964
00:32:51,780 --> 00:32:53,280
came into office on the 20th of January,

965
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,980
which is all about basically the administration's desire

966
00:32:55,980 --> 00:33:00,140
to radically strengthen border and immigration procedures.

967
00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:01,800
And I'd say that's sort of been injected

968
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,020
with more vigor by Marco Rubio, the Secretary

969
00:33:05,020 --> 00:33:05,580
of State.

970
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,620
And we've seen really a sort of process

971
00:33:07,620 --> 00:33:11,380
of certain visa types being identified and then

972
00:33:11,380 --> 00:33:14,060
far more stringent procedures coming in, including in

973
00:33:14,060 --> 00:33:17,140
many cases, this real focus on social media

974
00:33:17,140 --> 00:33:19,520
accounts and having, you know, the requirement to

975
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,200
put down your social media account names for

976
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,720
the last five years and to keep those

977
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,700
accounts open, if the accounts are put on

978
00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:29,300
private mode or closed, that will count against

979
00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:29,640
you.

980
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,680
So here's where I'm conflicted.

981
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,260
On one hand, I'm like, people should be

982
00:33:36,260 --> 00:33:38,280
able to say whatever they want to say.

983
00:33:38,780 --> 00:33:40,240
You know, who cares?

984
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,480
Be quiet, just do your thing.

985
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:46,200
You know, this is almost bordering on thought

986
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:46,620
crime.

987
00:33:46,780 --> 00:33:48,980
So I can see that side of it.

988
00:33:49,380 --> 00:33:52,080
But on the other hand, there are two

989
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,700
in particular, two Brits, one who lives in

990
00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:57,000
the UK, one who lives in Australia, who

991
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,800
are part of the Podcasting 2.0 group.

992
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:00,520
And I like them.

993
00:34:00,980 --> 00:34:04,120
I've never had dinner at their house, but

994
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,000
I'd say we're friends.

995
00:34:05,580 --> 00:34:09,900
But both of them are always posting snide

996
00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:14,380
remarks like, sadly in Trump's America, brown-skinned

997
00:34:14,380 --> 00:34:17,360
immigrants are said not to add any value.

998
00:34:18,739 --> 00:34:21,360
But all of their business, all of their

999
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,659
business is in the United States.

1000
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,540
They come to conferences here, they're selling, their

1001
00:34:26,540 --> 00:34:27,540
market is here.

1002
00:34:28,820 --> 00:34:30,380
And whenever I see that- And all

1003
00:34:30,380 --> 00:34:31,239
they do is bitch and moan.

1004
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,500
And like, well, if America would do their

1005
00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:36,280
job with Section 230 and just remove it,

1006
00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:37,560
we wouldn't have these problems.

1007
00:34:38,260 --> 00:34:41,100
I'm like, well, why don't you- Is

1008
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:42,719
that the same guy with that voice?

1009
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,199
It's all the same person.

1010
00:34:45,179 --> 00:34:46,800
Stay home, you blimey.

1011
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:51,739
You know, so I'm also, and I think

1012
00:34:51,739 --> 00:34:53,840
- It'd be you limey, not you blimey.

1013
00:34:54,139 --> 00:34:55,380
What did I say, blimey?

1014
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,680
Blimey, you said you blimey.

1015
00:34:56,700 --> 00:34:58,740
It's December 12th, blimey.

1016
00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:01,520
December 12th, blimey.

1017
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,360
You know, and so on that hand, I'm

1018
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,320
like, well, shut up.

1019
00:35:05,380 --> 00:35:06,380
Then don't come here.

1020
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:08,880
Don't be looking for venture capital here.

1021
00:35:09,020 --> 00:35:10,360
Don't be doing any of that.

1022
00:35:11,220 --> 00:35:14,140
You know, so my red, white, and blue

1023
00:35:14,140 --> 00:35:15,300
kind of gets activated.

1024
00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:18,940
Yeah, you get riled up by these foreigners

1025
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,440
bitching and moaning about the United States and

1026
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,060
expecting us to pay the bills.

1027
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:25,000
The terrorists, the terrorists, all of them.

1028
00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:25,540
Terrorists.

1029
00:35:25,740 --> 00:35:26,980
So what do you, how do you feel

1030
00:35:26,980 --> 00:35:27,420
about it?

1031
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,840
I think it's going to go nowhere.

1032
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:32,280
It's too complicated.

1033
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,500
It's too difficult to do.

1034
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,380
It's bullcrap.

1035
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,220
It's just bullcrap.

1036
00:35:35,340 --> 00:35:38,120
It's just more chumming in the water to

1037
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:38,440
Trump.

1038
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,160
Oh, let's do this and see what happens.

1039
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,380
It's chumming in the water.

1040
00:35:42,860 --> 00:35:43,900
You're probably right.

1041
00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:46,720
I just, I fell for it.

1042
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,740
Hook, line, and sinker.

1043
00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:49,640
I fell for it.

1044
00:35:50,340 --> 00:35:50,540
All right.

1045
00:35:50,620 --> 00:35:52,140
You and everybody else.

1046
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,460
Speaking of hook, line, and sinker, let's talk

1047
00:35:54,460 --> 00:35:55,400
about the big boat.

1048
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:59,980
The big, beautiful boat that we seized.

1049
00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:01,180
Do you have any clips on that?

1050
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:03,160
I do, as a matter of fact.

1051
00:36:03,380 --> 00:36:04,780
Why don't you kick it off?

1052
00:36:05,780 --> 00:36:08,440
Well, you caught me off flat footing because

1053
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,120
I have to now look at this ridiculously

1054
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,380
long list.

1055
00:36:11,540 --> 00:36:12,300
Of untitled?

1056
00:36:12,380 --> 00:36:12,760
Of clips.

1057
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:14,200
Untitled clips.

1058
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,600
To figure out what clip it is.

1059
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:18,800
Let me see.

1060
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:19,960
I can probably figure it out.

1061
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:20,780
Oil tanker.

1062
00:36:20,780 --> 00:36:21,900
Oil tanker BS.

1063
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,860
You think oil tanker would be it?

1064
00:36:23,980 --> 00:36:24,620
Yes, maybe.

1065
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:25,560
Just a thought.

1066
00:36:25,700 --> 00:36:27,680
The Trump administration says the U.S. has

1067
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,960
seized a tanker off the coast of Venezuela.

1068
00:36:30,540 --> 00:36:32,960
Attorney General Pam Bondi posted on social media

1069
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,700
that the U.S. executed a seizure warrant

1070
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:38,700
because the tanker was transporting sanctioned oil from

1071
00:36:38,700 --> 00:36:40,220
Venezuela to Iran.

1072
00:36:40,220 --> 00:36:42,320
Bondi says the tanker is part of an

1073
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,940
illegal oil shipping network supporting foreign terrorist organizations.

1074
00:36:45,940 --> 00:36:46,540
Terrorists.

1075
00:36:46,660 --> 00:36:47,800
Terrorists or tourists.

1076
00:36:48,060 --> 00:36:50,520
Okay, so that clip immediately brought to mind

1077
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,240
a simple question which, and I could get

1078
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:56,040
this clip from 10 sources and they all

1079
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,900
avoid the simple question.

1080
00:36:59,780 --> 00:37:01,480
Iran's an oil producing country.

1081
00:37:01,580 --> 00:37:04,860
Why are they importing oil from Venezuela for

1082
00:37:04,860 --> 00:37:06,020
that they don't need it?

1083
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,420
They're in excess.

1084
00:37:08,420 --> 00:37:10,920
They're making more oil than they can use.

1085
00:37:10,980 --> 00:37:12,280
So why are they importing it?

1086
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:14,060
I ask you.

1087
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:19,760
Well, this was, I'm not sure exactly.

1088
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,660
The whole thing is, you know, first of

1089
00:37:22,660 --> 00:37:24,440
all, I'm thinking like, how does this even

1090
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:24,940
work?

1091
00:37:25,460 --> 00:37:26,880
They just grab ships.

1092
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,100
So they dropped a chopper down on it.

1093
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:29,920
That was pretty cool.

1094
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,320
I mean, I have to say though, the

1095
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,560
Houthis did a better helicopter ship seizing video.

1096
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,700
Yeah, they had them rappelling down onto the

1097
00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:40,920
deck.

1098
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:41,840
Remember the Houthis?

1099
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,360
Yeah, the phony, that was AI or something.

1100
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:45,700
That was great.

1101
00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:48,980
It was pretty exciting.

1102
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:52,140
Use your gen i.mil to sex these

1103
00:37:52,140 --> 00:37:53,540
up a little bit, Hegseth.

1104
00:37:54,060 --> 00:37:57,900
But interestingly enough, there was on CNN our

1105
00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:00,960
boy Anderson Pooper who had, well, first of

1106
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,740
all, here's the story.

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00:38:01,860 --> 00:38:03,320
And then he had an analyst on who

1108
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,920
I thought was quite good and enlightening.

1109
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,400
We begin tonight with new video.

1110
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,760
The Trump administration's latest move against Venezuela.

1111
00:38:10,420 --> 00:38:12,240
Attorney General Pam Bondi put it out this

1112
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:12,600
evening.

1113
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,520
Shows American forces boarding an oil tanker coming

1114
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,040
down lines from hovering choppers making their way

1115
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,760
to the bridge and seizing control of the

1116
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,080
vessel.

1117
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,740
Quoting from the attorney general's social media post.

1118
00:38:22,860 --> 00:38:25,380
Today, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Homeland Security

1119
00:38:25,380 --> 00:38:28,180
Investigations and the U.S. Coast Guard with

1120
00:38:28,180 --> 00:38:31,040
support from the Department of War executed a

1121
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,760
seizure warrant for a crude oil tanker used

1122
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,680
to transport sanctioned oil from Venezuela and Iran.

1123
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:37,620
And Iran.

1124
00:38:37,980 --> 00:38:39,260
Not, oh, and Iran.

1125
00:38:39,540 --> 00:38:41,780
Well, that's a different way of, the story

1126
00:38:41,780 --> 00:38:42,300
goes differently.

1127
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:43,520
Yes, and Iran.

1128
00:38:43,620 --> 00:38:46,640
So this tanker is, okay, this tanker is

1129
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,300
filled with oil from Venezuela and sometimes Iran.

1130
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,680
So this tanker is a rogue tanker out

1131
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:52,500
there moving oil.

1132
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,840
Yes, it's the tanker.

1133
00:38:53,940 --> 00:38:55,960
It's not necessarily where the oil is from.

1134
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,980
It's the fact that it's a rogue tanker.

1135
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,880
And remember, there's a new sheriff in town,

1136
00:39:01,020 --> 00:39:01,440
everybody.

1137
00:39:02,780 --> 00:39:03,740
Western Hemisphere.

1138
00:39:03,740 --> 00:39:07,140
That's in our strategic defense document.

1139
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,260
We are in charge of this.

1140
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,780
A senior U.S. official tells CNN it

1141
00:39:11,780 --> 00:39:14,260
had Venezuelan- I hope that they do

1142
00:39:14,260 --> 00:39:16,760
explain if it's just a rogue tanker moving

1143
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,660
oil around where it's going to.

1144
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,540
Yeah, there's a lot of explanation, actually.

1145
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:22,500
Oh, okay, well, I'm going to stop.

1146
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,220
Official tells CNN it had Venezuelan crude on

1147
00:39:25,220 --> 00:39:28,080
board, was sailing in international waters, and known

1148
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,880
was injured in the boarding operation.

1149
00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:31,760
Now the video came out just a short

1150
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,160
time after this from the president setting the

1151
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:34,620
stage.

1152
00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:39,640
As you probably know, we've just seized a

1153
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,220
tanker on the coast of Venezuela.

1154
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:44,400
It was big, large, very large.

1155
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:46,740
Largest one ever.

1156
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:47,700
Biggest ever.

1157
00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:48,500
Largest ever.

1158
00:39:48,740 --> 00:39:50,760
And other things are happening.

1159
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,620
So you'll be seeing that later and you'll

1160
00:39:53,620 --> 00:39:55,240
be talking about that later with some other

1161
00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:55,560
people.

1162
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,800
Well, he said the tanker was seized, quote,

1163
00:39:58,860 --> 00:39:59,900
for very good reason.

1164
00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:01,660
And when asked what would happen to the

1165
00:40:01,660 --> 00:40:03,600
oil, he replied, we keep it, I guess.

1166
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:06,120
Late today, the Venezuelan government called the seizure,

1167
00:40:06,260 --> 00:40:08,620
a quote, act of international piracy, calling it

1168
00:40:08,620 --> 00:40:10,960
a quote, deliberate plan to plunder our energy

1169
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:11,620
resources.

1170
00:40:12,340 --> 00:40:15,120
Venezuela's leader, Nicolas Maduro, also weighed in shortly

1171
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,880
before the president announced the operation.

1172
00:40:19,740 --> 00:40:21,960
Our message to the people of the United

1173
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,160
States remains the same.

1174
00:40:23,540 --> 00:40:23,900
Peace.

1175
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,480
Peace above all else.

1176
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:26,780
No to crazy war.

1177
00:40:27,340 --> 00:40:28,560
No to bloodshed for oil.

1178
00:40:28,980 --> 00:40:30,200
No to war for oil.

1179
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,380
The recipe for eternal years.

1180
00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:34,900
Yeah, there's not going to be any war.

1181
00:40:35,220 --> 00:40:38,180
And he brought on an analyst who I

1182
00:40:38,180 --> 00:40:40,200
think Pooper was even disappointed.

1183
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,500
Like, oh, really?

1184
00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:42,700
Oh, crap.

1185
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,720
Joining us now is CNN Global Affairs Analyst,

1186
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:45,480
Brett McGurk.

1187
00:40:45,580 --> 00:40:47,040
Brett, what stands out to you about this,

1188
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,180
how this tanker was seized?

1189
00:40:49,020 --> 00:40:51,080
What's interesting about this, Anderson, and look, I

1190
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,100
agree with Adam Smith.

1191
00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:54,840
The administration owes transparency on what is going

1192
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,220
on in Venezuela.

1193
00:40:56,420 --> 00:40:58,600
We have a quarter of our naval deployed

1194
00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,860
assets off the coast.

1195
00:40:59,860 --> 00:41:03,760
We have carrier strike groups, amphibious assault ships.

1196
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,340
But this action, from what I can tell,

1197
00:41:06,780 --> 00:41:08,280
is actually kind of by the book.

1198
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,740
This ship, Anderson, was actually sanctioned by the

1199
00:41:11,740 --> 00:41:13,440
Treasury Department in 2022.

1200
00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:15,800
So in the Biden administration, there was a

1201
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,740
warrant issued by a federal court about two

1202
00:41:17,740 --> 00:41:20,200
weeks ago for civil forfeiture action.

1203
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,300
And when that happens, and this happened in

1204
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:23,640
the Biden administration, I was a part of

1205
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,080
some of these, the Justice Department, from intelligence,

1206
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:29,500
you might be able to find the ship,

1207
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:31,540
the Justice Department will say, can we seize

1208
00:41:31,540 --> 00:41:31,940
this ship?

1209
00:41:32,020 --> 00:41:32,860
Is there a way to do it?

1210
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,780
There might be foreign policy implications.

1211
00:41:35,180 --> 00:41:36,260
But we've done this in the past.

1212
00:41:36,780 --> 00:41:39,700
And this ship was actually implicated for smuggling

1213
00:41:39,700 --> 00:41:44,580
Iranian oil to benefit the Islamic Revolutionary Guards

1214
00:41:44,580 --> 00:41:46,420
Corps under U.S. criminal authorities.

1215
00:41:46,740 --> 00:41:48,760
So if that's what happened here, this is

1216
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,400
actually not totally out of the ordinary.

1217
00:41:50,780 --> 00:41:53,000
And I would not categorize this the same

1218
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,420
as the kinetic strikes against the narco boats,

1219
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,520
which is very novel and raises serious questions.

1220
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,240
So it's the ship.

1221
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,600
It's not about the oil.

1222
00:42:01,780 --> 00:42:02,540
It's about the ship.

1223
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,180
And it seems like there's a lot of

1224
00:42:04,180 --> 00:42:04,420
them.

1225
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,740
So you don't think this is part-

1226
00:42:06,740 --> 00:42:08,200
You don't think Trump is horrible?

1227
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,600
Like he's a horrible orange man doing things

1228
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,840
and taking us into war?

1229
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,540
Like my friend Dave Smith says?

1230
00:42:14,980 --> 00:42:17,340
So you don't think this is part of

1231
00:42:17,340 --> 00:42:19,220
a larger U.S. pressure campaign on Maduro?

1232
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,400
Or is that, could it be both?

1233
00:42:21,860 --> 00:42:22,760
Well, it could be both.

1234
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,420
I think definitely, look, from what I can

1235
00:42:25,420 --> 00:42:28,500
see, we're kind of in unprecedented territory.

1236
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:29,900
So it can be both.

1237
00:42:30,060 --> 00:42:34,360
But the authorities used today were congressionally mandated

1238
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:34,900
authorities.

1239
00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:38,300
This ship was sanctioned under Iranian-related authorities.

1240
00:42:38,740 --> 00:42:39,840
There was a warrant by a U.S.

1241
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:40,500
federal court.

1242
00:42:40,780 --> 00:42:43,120
So this seems to have been done, as

1243
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,600
you would want something like this to be

1244
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:49,080
done, legally with authorization from independent branches of

1245
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:49,340
government.

1246
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,940
In this case, the judicial branch.

1247
00:42:52,020 --> 00:42:52,900
Again, we've done this.

1248
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,540
We did one in 2023, a ship called

1249
00:42:55,540 --> 00:42:56,720
the Suez Regime.

1250
00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:00,360
We seized the oil, was then forfeited by

1251
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,320
a U.S. federal court.

1252
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,180
It becomes property of the U.S. government.

1253
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:05,260
That seems to be what's happening right now.

1254
00:43:05,420 --> 00:43:06,560
I would want to see over the coming

1255
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,300
days and weeks, are we seizing every ship

1256
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:11,880
that comes out of Venezuela under other authorities

1257
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,780
or questionable authorities or no authorities?

1258
00:43:14,020 --> 00:43:15,800
But in this case, with this ship, with

1259
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,100
this network, part of a vast ghost fleet,

1260
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:20,460
Anderson, there's about a thousand of these ships,

1261
00:43:20,540 --> 00:43:24,980
Iranian, Russian, and Venezuelan, that is kind of

1262
00:43:24,980 --> 00:43:26,480
a cat and mouse game that goes on

1263
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,600
all around the world.

1264
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:31,900
Yeah, so these ship companies have got to

1265
00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:33,000
be freaked by this.

1266
00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:38,820
The global dark fleet is 1,423 tankers,

1267
00:43:38,900 --> 00:43:42,900
of which 921 are under sanctions, according to

1268
00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:43,540
Reuters.

1269
00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:45,440
Oh, we'll just be grabbing these left and

1270
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,760
right, especially for, first of all, the way

1271
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,900
you do it now, a shipment in a

1272
00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:52,480
classic small tank or the kind that you

1273
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,020
see commonly is worth $38 million.

1274
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,740
Oh, this definitely hurts.

1275
00:43:59,460 --> 00:44:01,540
The big tankers, the big boys, they're the

1276
00:44:01,540 --> 00:44:04,060
super tankers, which I'm sure they're going to

1277
00:44:04,060 --> 00:44:04,400
grab those.

1278
00:44:04,540 --> 00:44:05,300
Largest ever.

1279
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,200
The big monsters, you have $200 million worth

1280
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,160
of oil in those things.

1281
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,680
So you're taking a lot of money off

1282
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:13,840
them.

1283
00:44:14,380 --> 00:44:16,900
This is not a minor amount of money.

1284
00:44:17,660 --> 00:44:21,040
And so what you do is you let

1285
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,540
the tankers go fill up.

1286
00:44:22,540 --> 00:44:24,700
You don't take an empty tanker.

1287
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,060
No, you don't take an empty tanker.

1288
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:26,880
That would be crazy.

1289
00:44:27,380 --> 00:44:29,000
No, you let them fill up somewhere.

1290
00:44:29,260 --> 00:44:29,480
Yeah.

1291
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,380
And then you grab them and then you

1292
00:44:32,380 --> 00:44:34,300
move that oil into one of the refineries

1293
00:44:34,300 --> 00:44:34,960
in Texas.

1294
00:44:35,260 --> 00:44:35,500
Yes.

1295
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,440
And in the Gulf, you just move it

1296
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:37,880
over there.

1297
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,000
Here you go, boys.

1298
00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:41,520
Here's a free tanker full of oil.

1299
00:44:41,660 --> 00:44:43,000
It's not going to cost you a nickel.

1300
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:44,920
And yeah, that's the way to go.

1301
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,880
It's a great way to lower prices.

1302
00:44:49,260 --> 00:44:51,940
It's called piracy, but it's legal.

1303
00:44:51,940 --> 00:44:52,460
Yeah.

1304
00:44:53,020 --> 00:44:53,240
Yeah.

1305
00:44:53,340 --> 00:44:55,840
And I'm all for it because what this

1306
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,380
is doing is pressure, putting more pressure on

1307
00:44:59,380 --> 00:45:03,120
the true evil behind all of this, who,

1308
00:45:03,260 --> 00:45:05,860
of course, run Venezuela because let's not pretend

1309
00:45:05,860 --> 00:45:08,620
Venezuela is some sad little state with some

1310
00:45:08,620 --> 00:45:10,860
sad little man singing John Lennon songs.

1311
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:15,280
I mean, there's a lot of things happening

1312
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:15,960
in Venezuela.

1313
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:22,260
And I actually got these two clips of

1314
00:45:22,260 --> 00:45:22,960
Dennis Small.

1315
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:23,920
Have you ever heard of him?

1316
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,300
He works for the Executive Intelligence Review.

1317
00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:29,720
No.

1318
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,880
Well, he received an award from the Journalist

1319
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,760
Club of Mexico.

1320
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,220
Oh, he did?

1321
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,120
Well, there you go.

1322
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,320
That means he didn't get killed.

1323
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,320
Instant bestseller.

1324
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,500
And so I've always thought that the whole

1325
00:45:44,500 --> 00:45:47,740
fleet right off the coast of Venezuela, yeah,

1326
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,000
we're getting the drug boats.

1327
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,120
What happens is you blow a drug boat

1328
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,420
and then everyone starts to chatter.

1329
00:45:54,900 --> 00:45:58,920
You got phone calls, ham radio, text messages,

1330
00:45:59,340 --> 00:46:00,680
Lord knows what they're using.

1331
00:46:01,180 --> 00:46:04,300
And the signals are now being received and

1332
00:46:04,300 --> 00:46:07,500
everything's being mapped out by the ships that

1333
00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:08,140
are offshore.

1334
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,840
That makes the most sense to me.

1335
00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:12,680
Like, let's figure out where everything's going.

1336
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,980
So this is not, by any stretch of

1337
00:46:15,980 --> 00:46:19,300
the imagination, the number one entry into the

1338
00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:20,860
United States of drugs.

1339
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,180
But Dennis Small explains some stuff to us.

1340
00:46:26,340 --> 00:46:29,800
The amount of drugs that flow from Venezuela,

1341
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,260
as previous speakers have indicated, are not the

1342
00:46:34,260 --> 00:46:34,660
problem.

1343
00:46:34,980 --> 00:46:37,200
The flow of drugs into the United States,

1344
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:41,640
this is a map produced by the UNODC,

1345
00:46:41,780 --> 00:46:45,160
the United Nations Organization for Drugs and Crime.

1346
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,960
It is the international grouping.

1347
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,160
The DEA statistics indicate the same thing, that

1348
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,900
looking at the trafficking of cocaine, which is

1349
00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:58,200
the main drug trafficked from the Andean countries

1350
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,640
to the United States, 74% goes through

1351
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,000
the eastern Pacific vector into Mexico, a very

1352
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,480
small percentage, 8% from Venezuela.

1353
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,700
Do some drugs leave from Venezuela?

1354
00:47:11,220 --> 00:47:11,740
Of course.

1355
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,980
There's not a country in the world where

1356
00:47:13,980 --> 00:47:14,840
this doesn't happen.

1357
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,580
Second point on drugs.

1358
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,520
Most of the drugs do not enter the

1359
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,500
United States by illegal migrants swimming across the

1360
00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:28,920
Rio Grande or by fast boats dashing across

1361
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:29,520
the Caribbean.

1362
00:47:29,980 --> 00:47:30,960
It's not true.

1363
00:47:31,180 --> 00:47:35,600
According to the DEA's own statistics and CBP,

1364
00:47:35,780 --> 00:47:39,920
the Customs and Border Patrol, 90% of

1365
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,740
the heroin seized coming into the United States,

1366
00:47:42,740 --> 00:47:47,040
88% of the cocaine seized coming into

1367
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,840
the United States, and 84% of the

1368
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,400
methadone, methamphetamine, sorry, coming into the United States

1369
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,680
comes across the official border crossings, the ports

1370
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,460
of entry, in trailers, in buses, in trucks,

1371
00:48:02,620 --> 00:48:06,180
in cars, in big rigs.

1372
00:48:06,340 --> 00:48:09,120
Those are the official reports from the DEA

1373
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:09,600
itself.

1374
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:12,380
It makes total sense to me because this

1375
00:48:12,380 --> 00:48:14,980
is not about the enormous seizures.

1376
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,080
It's about figuring out who's connected to what.

1377
00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:20,300
And Dennis Small explains that in this second

1378
00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:20,980
short clip.

1379
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,000
This does not have anything to do with

1380
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:23,440
drugs.

1381
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:29,520
Drugs is a $1 trillion yearly business run

1382
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:34,360
by an international cartel, which we have called

1383
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,460
Dope Incorporated.

1384
00:48:36,300 --> 00:48:37,740
It's not the Cali cartel.

1385
00:48:37,780 --> 00:48:39,520
It's not the Sinaloa cartel.

1386
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,180
It is the City of London and Wall

1387
00:48:42,180 --> 00:48:43,920
Street financial cartel.

1388
00:48:44,660 --> 00:48:46,260
It's $1 trillion a year.

1389
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,660
It's the major banks.

1390
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,320
If you want to stop drugs, you have

1391
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,340
to stop drug money laundering, which is at

1392
00:48:53,340 --> 00:48:54,480
the heart of the whole thing.

1393
00:48:54,980 --> 00:48:55,480
Exactly.

1394
00:48:55,740 --> 00:48:56,560
Ah, you're old.

1395
00:48:56,700 --> 00:48:58,780
You come up with clips to prove your

1396
00:48:58,780 --> 00:48:59,180
thesis.

1397
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,500
Well, that's what I do.

1398
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:02,940
It's not chicken shit.

1399
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,460
I never do such a thing.

1400
00:49:05,540 --> 00:49:05,820
Oh, no.

1401
00:49:06,380 --> 00:49:10,240
But the thing is, there's no coincidence in

1402
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:11,440
what just happened.

1403
00:49:11,540 --> 00:49:12,880
I know you have a clip as well,

1404
00:49:13,020 --> 00:49:15,180
so I'll play my intro clip of what

1405
00:49:15,180 --> 00:49:17,040
just happened regarding Venezuela.

1406
00:49:17,380 --> 00:49:20,700
This was the moment Maria Corina Machado reappeared

1407
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:24,060
after 11 months in hiding and a journey

1408
00:49:24,060 --> 00:49:25,420
shrouded in secret.

1409
00:49:27,500 --> 00:49:31,520
Below her Oslo hotel balcony, supporters gathered to

1410
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,400
sing the Venezuelan national anthem.

1411
00:49:33,980 --> 00:49:36,420
And they were soon joined by Machado, who

1412
00:49:36,420 --> 00:49:39,240
scrambled over a barrier to speak to them.

1413
00:49:42,380 --> 00:49:45,700
Venezuela's opposition leader had been laying low since

1414
00:49:45,700 --> 00:49:48,720
January, but defying a travel ban, she flew

1415
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:51,960
to the Norwegian capital, where hours earlier, her

1416
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,400
daughter had accepted the Nobel Peace Prize on

1417
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,140
her behalf.

1418
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,280
Machado didn't make it in time to receive

1419
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,440
the award in person.

1420
00:49:59,940 --> 00:50:02,440
Instead, her daughter stepped in and delivered her

1421
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,680
mother's speech, in which Machado vowed to continue

1422
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,620
the struggle of the Venezuelan people.

1423
00:50:08,420 --> 00:50:11,480
What we Venezuelans can offer the world is

1424
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,040
the lesson forged through this long and difficult

1425
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:19,720
journey, that to have democracy, we must be

1426
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:21,780
willing to fight for freedom.

1427
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,720
Machado accuses Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro of stealing

1428
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:29,860
the country's 2024 presidential election.

1429
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,000
Before she arrived, in a voice message, she

1430
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,480
thanked those who had helped her leave Venezuela

1431
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:36,880
to travel to Oslo.

1432
00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:39,980
After her Peace Prize win back in October,

1433
00:50:40,340 --> 00:50:43,000
Machado made a point of praising US President

1434
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,860
Donald Trump, who has intensified his pressure campaign

1435
00:50:46,860 --> 00:50:49,560
on Maduro in recent months with shows of

1436
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:50,480
military force.

1437
00:50:51,580 --> 00:50:54,580
She said she supports using force to overthrow

1438
00:50:54,580 --> 00:50:57,880
Maduro's government and has already vowed to return

1439
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:58,700
to Venezuela.

1440
00:50:59,100 --> 00:51:01,100
This is not a coincidence, this timing.

1441
00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:02,140
It never is.

1442
00:51:02,620 --> 00:51:03,540
It never is.

1443
00:51:04,180 --> 00:51:05,320
She's showing up.

1444
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,900
There's, of course, it's all intended to put

1445
00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:10,840
pressure on Maduro on the financial side, if

1446
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:11,260
anything.

1447
00:51:11,420 --> 00:51:13,200
Hey, we got your expenses.

1448
00:51:13,380 --> 00:51:14,800
Someone's getting that money.

1449
00:51:16,260 --> 00:51:17,620
That's going somewhere.

1450
00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:19,840
It has to be sent through something.

1451
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,740
I heard a statistic that the drug cartel

1452
00:51:23,740 --> 00:51:27,120
owns something like 12,000 homes throughout Europe.

1453
00:51:28,860 --> 00:51:30,180
Well, it's a good investment.

1454
00:51:30,380 --> 00:51:32,780
It's a great investment.

1455
00:51:33,540 --> 00:51:37,220
I have, I'm approaching this from a different

1456
00:51:37,220 --> 00:51:40,400
perspective because there's propaganda in here besides the

1457
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,540
fact that what you've noticed.

1458
00:51:42,020 --> 00:51:43,120
I have an Ask Adam.

1459
00:51:43,740 --> 00:51:45,020
Oh, hold on a second.

1460
00:51:46,900 --> 00:51:48,500
Oh, I didn't even see that.

1461
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:49,660
Oh boy.

1462
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:50,240
Okay.

1463
00:51:52,300 --> 00:51:56,260
Now, the Ask Adam Peace Prize clip.

1464
00:51:57,720 --> 00:51:58,200
Yes.

1465
00:51:58,300 --> 00:52:00,020
Is that the one you want me to

1466
00:52:00,020 --> 00:52:00,680
go for?

1467
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:02,020
Yeah, I want you to play that, not

1468
00:52:02,020 --> 00:52:03,580
the ISO, but the Peace Prize clip.

1469
00:52:03,980 --> 00:52:05,460
And I want you to see if you

1470
00:52:05,460 --> 00:52:06,580
can spot the anomaly.

1471
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:07,140
Okay.

1472
00:52:07,300 --> 00:52:10,940
Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Carina Machado misses the

1473
00:52:10,940 --> 00:52:13,660
Nobel Peace Prize ceremony, but has secretly made

1474
00:52:13,660 --> 00:52:15,400
it out of the country and is on

1475
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:16,220
her way to Oslo.

1476
00:52:16,620 --> 00:52:19,120
As soon as I arrive, I will be

1477
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,840
able to embrace all my family and my

1478
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,660
children that I have not seen for two

1479
00:52:24,660 --> 00:52:25,100
years.

1480
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,920
Ask Adam, Ask Adam, yeah.

1481
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,100
Answer the question, go.

1482
00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:38,580
What's the question?

1483
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,160
The question is, why did I clip the

1484
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:41,900
wrong clip?

1485
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,140
So let's go from there to...

1486
00:52:46,340 --> 00:52:47,700
That was the wrong clip?

1487
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,360
That was the wrong Ask Adam clip?

1488
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:51,400
Yeah.

1489
00:52:52,860 --> 00:52:54,980
Which is annoying because this is a really

1490
00:52:54,980 --> 00:52:55,640
good one.

1491
00:52:56,100 --> 00:52:57,400
Do you have the good one?

1492
00:52:58,220 --> 00:52:58,960
I don't know.

1493
00:52:59,020 --> 00:53:00,300
We're going to find out by playing the

1494
00:53:00,300 --> 00:53:02,800
Peace Prize girl BBC.

1495
00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:04,200
Okay.

1496
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,320
I'm disappointed now.

1497
00:53:06,780 --> 00:53:07,140
That was...

1498
00:53:07,140 --> 00:53:07,560
I am too.

1499
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,700
Yeah, you should be.

1500
00:53:08,900 --> 00:53:10,280
After you excoriated me.

1501
00:53:10,300 --> 00:53:12,480
I approach this from a different angle.

1502
00:53:12,780 --> 00:53:14,320
One that makes no sense.

1503
00:53:14,980 --> 00:53:18,680
Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Carina Machado misses the

1504
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,400
Nobel Peace Prize ceremony, but has secretly made

1505
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,140
it out of the country and is on

1506
00:53:23,140 --> 00:53:23,960
her way to Oslo.

1507
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,860
As soon as I arrive, I will be

1508
00:53:26,860 --> 00:53:28,920
able to embrace all my family...

1509
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:29,100
What?

1510
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:30,160
That's the same clip.

1511
00:53:30,780 --> 00:53:32,780
Uh, so we don't get what...

1512
00:53:32,780 --> 00:53:33,920
The clip was they had...

1513
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:34,560
They brought...

1514
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,940
The daughter came out and she...

1515
00:53:36,940 --> 00:53:39,040
And the daughter came out and she gave

1516
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:39,880
a little speech.

1517
00:53:40,380 --> 00:53:42,160
And they clipped the speech...

1518
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,020
Then they clipped the speech and I...

1519
00:53:44,020 --> 00:53:45,840
The clip of the speech is where the...

1520
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,960
Where the flub was and this is under

1521
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,040
the ISO clip.

1522
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:49,800
You can play it.

1523
00:53:50,300 --> 00:53:53,520
Ms. Machado also denounced kidnappings and torture under

1524
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,620
Venezuela's president.

1525
00:53:57,580 --> 00:53:58,360
Listen again.

1526
00:53:58,620 --> 00:54:01,900
Ms. Machado also denounced kidnappings and torture under

1527
00:54:01,900 --> 00:54:03,060
Venezuela's president.

1528
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:03,840
Denounced?

1529
00:54:04,980 --> 00:54:05,540
Denies.

1530
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,360
Oh, I thought she says denounced.

1531
00:54:08,740 --> 00:54:09,640
Sounds like denounced.

1532
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:10,580
Well, I thought she said denies.

1533
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:11,260
Let's listen again.

1534
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,800
Ms. Machado also denounced kidnappings and torture under

1535
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:15,620
Venezuela's president.

1536
00:54:15,820 --> 00:54:16,860
Denounced makes sense.

1537
00:54:16,940 --> 00:54:18,040
I think she said terrorist.

1538
00:54:18,780 --> 00:54:19,240
Terrorist.

1539
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,640
I'm sorry, my hearing...

1540
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:23,120
I must have...

1541
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,960
It must be right now at my age.

1542
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,940
There's one frequency that's allowing me to hear

1543
00:54:27,940 --> 00:54:30,540
the wrong word very constantly.

1544
00:54:30,540 --> 00:54:32,820
Let's play the Peace Prize Analysis, BBC.

1545
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:36,740
Alberto Parides from BBC Mundo told us more

1546
00:54:36,740 --> 00:54:38,720
about what the award meant for Venezuela.

1547
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,140
This prize, it means a lot for many

1548
00:54:41,140 --> 00:54:44,520
Venezuelans in the opposition because Venezuelan people had

1549
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,820
lost hope and this prize gives them something

1550
00:54:48,820 --> 00:54:51,480
that they did not have for many years.

1551
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,160
They lost every single hope in 2019 when

1552
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,640
the opposition leader, Juan Guaidó, failed to topple

1553
00:54:58,640 --> 00:54:59,140
the government.

1554
00:54:59,140 --> 00:55:02,960
Although she's still leading the opposition, her regular

1555
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,300
time is spent in hiding.

1556
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:05,300
Yes.

1557
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,240
So she went into hiding in August last

1558
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:12,160
year after the election that was held in

1559
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:12,700
July.

1560
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,040
She was part of the election and then

1561
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:20,220
there were protests after the electoral council came

1562
00:55:20,220 --> 00:55:22,120
out and said that Maduro had won the

1563
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:22,500
election.

1564
00:55:23,100 --> 00:55:25,600
But they did not provide any evidence to

1565
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:26,960
support that claim.

1566
00:55:27,660 --> 00:55:30,640
But what the government didn't know was that

1567
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,480
María Corina Machado was collecting the tallies and

1568
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:34,460
she published them.

1569
00:55:35,100 --> 00:55:39,140
These tallies showed that the opposition leader, Edmundo

1570
00:55:39,140 --> 00:55:41,420
González, had actually won the election.

1571
00:55:42,220 --> 00:55:44,840
After many people went out to protest in

1572
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,900
Caracas, more than 2,000 people were arrested.

1573
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,880
They tried to arrest her as well.

1574
00:55:50,300 --> 00:55:51,580
She had to go into hiding.

1575
00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:55,000
So we have not seen her since January,

1576
00:55:55,100 --> 00:55:57,620
actually, this year when she came out for

1577
00:55:57,620 --> 00:56:00,460
the first time since August to take part

1578
00:56:00,460 --> 00:56:01,740
in a protest against the government.

1579
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,000
Because Venezuelan opposition leaders who do fall into

1580
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,740
the hands of the authorities, it can be

1581
00:56:08,740 --> 00:56:09,360
very dangerous.

1582
00:56:09,660 --> 00:56:09,980
Yes.

1583
00:56:11,380 --> 00:56:11,940
Well...

1584
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:13,000
Yes.

1585
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,500
I didn't know that aspect of it.

1586
00:56:16,660 --> 00:56:18,260
We just don't follow it that closely.

1587
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,540
But I didn't realise that she had gone...

1588
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,620
She was like an investigator.

1589
00:56:22,820 --> 00:56:24,400
She had gone and picked up the tallies

1590
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,240
of all the districts reporting.

1591
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:26,640
Yes.

1592
00:56:26,660 --> 00:56:28,840
And the numbers didn't match up with Maduro

1593
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,340
winning and she published it.

1594
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:35,560
Well, you recall that Venezuela is ground zero

1595
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,100
of Smartmatic and Dominion and the software in

1596
00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:41,760
the electronic voting machines.

1597
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,420
This is part of how this all started

1598
00:56:44,420 --> 00:56:45,120
to come up.

1599
00:56:45,820 --> 00:56:46,320
Yeah.

1600
00:56:46,580 --> 00:56:49,300
And it's like the sister of the guy

1601
00:56:49,300 --> 00:56:53,900
who owns the source code, which keeps changing

1602
00:56:53,900 --> 00:56:56,060
company hands and names to keep moving it

1603
00:56:56,060 --> 00:56:56,380
around.

1604
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:57,800
He's vice president.

1605
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,820
She's vice president to Maduro.

1606
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:02,760
So all of this is all wrapped up

1607
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,540
and it all came to a head, funny

1608
00:57:04,540 --> 00:57:08,980
enough, on Lindell TV.

1609
00:57:09,740 --> 00:57:10,920
Lindell TV.

1610
00:57:11,140 --> 00:57:12,220
Mike Lindell TV.

1611
00:57:12,780 --> 00:57:14,640
And they brought on Patrick Byrne.

1612
00:57:15,580 --> 00:57:16,740
And Patrick Byrne...

1613
00:57:17,740 --> 00:57:19,600
I didn't clip it because...

1614
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:20,900
We've had clips from him before.

1615
00:57:21,140 --> 00:57:21,620
Yes.

1616
00:57:21,620 --> 00:57:22,840
Well, there's something new here.

1617
00:57:22,940 --> 00:57:25,340
And so he was going on and on.

1618
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,120
They're talking about all these connections, how Venezuela

1619
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:33,100
rigged our 2020 election through their software, which

1620
00:57:33,100 --> 00:57:37,680
is a little, I mean, I don't know

1621
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,500
if Venezuela did it, but the software did

1622
00:57:39,500 --> 00:57:39,600
it.

1623
00:57:39,860 --> 00:57:43,200
Yeah, I don't think Venezuela did nothing.

1624
00:57:43,420 --> 00:57:46,280
But you know that Peace Prize girl, she

1625
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:47,800
was talking to Trump, said, hey, you should

1626
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:48,460
get the Peace Prize.

1627
00:57:48,460 --> 00:57:52,000
By the way, that Peace Prize looks exactly

1628
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,520
like our Peace Prize, our International Peace Prize.

1629
00:57:54,820 --> 00:57:56,360
Jay did a great job.

1630
00:57:56,900 --> 00:57:57,880
Of copying it, yeah.

1631
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:58,200
Yes.

1632
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:00,920
Our art's a little different, but it's a

1633
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:01,500
great job.

1634
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,760
Yeah, well, that's a symbol for peace in

1635
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:04,200
Japanese.

1636
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,700
Oh, it looks like watercolor done by a

1637
00:58:07,700 --> 00:58:09,340
four-year-old, but it looks fantastic.

1638
00:58:09,700 --> 00:58:10,600
That's the style.

1639
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:11,760
It's the style, yes.

1640
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:13,380
What is that style?

1641
00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:14,540
Is that modernism?

1642
00:58:14,780 --> 00:58:16,260
Watercolor done by a four-year-old.

1643
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:16,960
Style.

1644
00:58:17,500 --> 00:58:18,320
Just style.

1645
00:58:20,860 --> 00:58:22,960
And so, you know, they're going through all

1646
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,840
that, and like, yeah, we pretty much know

1647
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:25,060
that.

1648
00:58:25,260 --> 00:58:31,200
And then Patrick Byrne drops a bombshell that

1649
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,080
we know that he worked with the FBI

1650
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,540
to drop a bag of, what was it,

1651
00:58:35,540 --> 00:58:37,480
a couple million dollars on Hillary Clinton.

1652
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:39,380
He's been through that before.

1653
00:58:39,540 --> 00:58:40,780
This is the guy who's the head of

1654
00:58:40,780 --> 00:58:41,860
overstock.com.

1655
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:42,240
Was.

1656
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:43,300
He resigned.

1657
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:43,620
Was.

1658
00:58:43,660 --> 00:58:44,260
He resigned.

1659
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,720
So listen to what he has now.

1660
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,920
He's like a spook, but he's not really.

1661
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,860
But I didn't know this.

1662
00:58:52,940 --> 00:58:53,680
This is new.

1663
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,120
You just told us that you are CIA.

1664
00:58:57,260 --> 00:59:00,340
So how would you describe your role with

1665
00:59:00,340 --> 00:59:02,460
the CIA, which you haven't revealed before?

1666
00:59:02,660 --> 00:59:05,400
Well, again, I was telling the truth when

1667
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,120
I said that I frequently was reminded that

1668
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,040
you have a really nonstandard relationship.

1669
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,580
It became kind of my mother relationship.

1670
00:59:13,700 --> 00:59:15,420
I had lots of relations across the government.

1671
00:59:15,420 --> 00:59:18,660
But eventually I went from there to by

1672
00:59:18,660 --> 00:59:21,940
2010, 2011, Obama became something called a tier

1673
00:59:21,940 --> 00:59:23,180
one intelligence asset.

1674
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,460
And then in 2010, 2011, Obama elevated me

1675
00:59:27,460 --> 00:59:28,900
to national intelligence asset.

1676
00:59:29,060 --> 00:59:29,940
I was told I was going to be

1677
00:59:29,940 --> 00:59:32,500
the ace in the hole for all kinds

1678
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:34,880
of, you know, for the real tough situations

1679
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,300
from 2010, 20.

1680
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,440
That was after working for Brennan for four

1681
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:38,940
or five years.

1682
00:59:38,940 --> 00:59:40,700
And then I continued doing all that stuff

1683
00:59:40,700 --> 00:59:41,480
through 2016.

1684
00:59:42,300 --> 00:59:44,860
And all this crazy stuff happened that I've

1685
00:59:44,860 --> 00:59:46,480
told you about the, where I was set

1686
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:47,300
up the Russian hoax.

1687
00:59:47,620 --> 00:59:49,440
That's why, I mean, I've talked around it

1688
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:50,940
because I was trying to hide that.

1689
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,600
But I've told you stories about how I

1690
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,500
got drawn into setting up the Russian hoax

1691
00:59:55,500 --> 00:59:56,560
and the Hillary this and that.

1692
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,260
It was a little bit of fibbing there.

1693
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:00,720
I didn't want to explain the whole truth.

1694
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:01,760
I was doing that.

1695
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,120
I didn't just stumble into it.

1696
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,500
I was their go to asset.

1697
01:00:04,700 --> 01:00:06,260
I was the national intelligence asset.

1698
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,660
First, I got pulled under Brennan in 06.

1699
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,920
And then 2011, I moved into the White

1700
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:11,120
House.

1701
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,020
That's why I got mixed up in the

1702
01:00:13,020 --> 01:00:16,440
Russian collusion and the Hillary stuff.

1703
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,280
So first I'm thinking, wait a minute.

1704
01:00:19,660 --> 01:00:20,540
Does he know?

1705
01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:23,380
Was he deep inside the White House and

1706
01:00:23,380 --> 01:00:26,500
working under Brennan during the Russia hoax?

1707
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,060
And is he saying this now because either

1708
01:00:29,060 --> 01:00:31,500
he doesn't want to get busted or he

1709
01:00:31,500 --> 01:00:32,800
wants to help?

1710
01:00:33,340 --> 01:00:35,520
And he's always been an FBI guy.

1711
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:36,840
Now he was a CIA guy.

1712
01:00:36,860 --> 01:00:38,620
He was never an FBI guy.

1713
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:43,140
He was a think.

1714
01:00:43,140 --> 01:00:45,300
He was like working for the CIA.

1715
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:46,600
It sounds like he was working for the

1716
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,520
CIA, but he was being used by the

1717
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,640
FBI to create this situation.

1718
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,920
But he wasn't literally working.

1719
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:55,540
No, no, no, no.

1720
01:00:55,620 --> 01:00:55,920
He wasn't.

1721
01:00:55,980 --> 01:00:57,020
He says he was an asset.

1722
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:57,900
Yeah.

1723
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,900
And then all of a sudden.

1724
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,160
By the way, we're surrounded by people like

1725
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:04,440
this.

1726
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,360
People out there should realize that.

1727
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,320
Oh, but they donate to the show.

1728
01:01:10,180 --> 01:01:11,940
Not as much as they used to.

1729
01:01:11,940 --> 01:01:13,940
They used to donate more when we talked

1730
01:01:13,940 --> 01:01:14,120
about them.

1731
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:15,000
What is the deal?

1732
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:15,840
I don't know.

1733
01:01:16,140 --> 01:01:18,100
Step it up, boys and girls.

1734
01:01:18,980 --> 01:01:21,820
So then he goes into this whole thing

1735
01:01:21,820 --> 01:01:24,140
about the color revolution.

1736
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,300
And I'm like, what?

1737
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:27,220
Hold on a sec.

1738
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,480
Why are you sharing this information now, Patrick?

1739
01:01:29,500 --> 01:01:31,640
As we're looking at Venezuela, we're talking about

1740
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:32,640
our rigged elections.

1741
01:01:32,900 --> 01:01:34,560
It seems to me that you feel that

1742
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,260
this is an important.

1743
01:01:37,620 --> 01:01:39,440
The people know why.

1744
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,920
I've danced around long enough.

1745
01:01:41,940 --> 01:01:42,980
And it's not working.

1746
01:01:43,140 --> 01:01:44,520
And the regret of my life is.

1747
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:45,880
Oh, stop it.

1748
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:46,640
Stop the clip.

1749
01:01:47,340 --> 01:01:49,860
OK, so we can assume from the fact

1750
01:01:49,860 --> 01:01:53,560
that this guy's, you know, fully, fully read

1751
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,160
in on everything that this is.

1752
01:01:56,260 --> 01:01:58,740
Whatever he's telling us now is has to

1753
01:01:58,740 --> 01:01:59,460
be bullcrap.

1754
01:01:59,460 --> 01:02:01,980
It's part of another scheme of some sort

1755
01:02:01,980 --> 01:02:03,640
that we're unaware of.

1756
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:04,840
But he's going to play it out.

1757
01:02:04,860 --> 01:02:07,420
He's going to use use Olin Dell as

1758
01:02:07,420 --> 01:02:10,120
the go to as the as the middleman.

1759
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,580
You're you're really good.

1760
01:02:11,580 --> 01:02:13,380
You caught it sooner than I did.

1761
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,260
You're really good.

1762
01:02:14,340 --> 01:02:15,580
I have the payoff for that.

1763
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,980
But first, we'll listen to him dancing around.

1764
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:18,680
You're good.

1765
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:19,640
You nailed it.

1766
01:02:19,780 --> 01:02:22,180
I've danced around long enough and it's not

1767
01:02:22,180 --> 01:02:22,560
working.

1768
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,220
And the regret of my life is that

1769
01:02:24,220 --> 01:02:26,540
I spent the first Trump term trying to

1770
01:02:26,540 --> 01:02:28,340
dance around within my constraints.

1771
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,680
Buffett said, Patrick, when I went to see

1772
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,500
him, he was like my rabbi.

1773
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,240
He said, Patrick, go on television and tell

1774
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:34,600
everything.

1775
01:02:35,300 --> 01:02:36,780
And I just said I couldn't do that.

1776
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,040
But I went and told enough trying to

1777
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:39,340
shape.

1778
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:40,560
And I've had enough.

1779
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:41,560
We're having an insurrection.

1780
01:02:41,820 --> 01:02:43,120
We have an insurrection going on.

1781
01:02:43,540 --> 01:02:45,800
People calling, you know, these people calling.

1782
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:52,120
You know, don't you hate how that they

1783
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,540
say, well, we're not saying disobey Trump.

1784
01:02:55,660 --> 01:02:57,080
We're just saying that if he gives you

1785
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,280
illegal orders, which is theoretically, then it's time

1786
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,260
for you to disobey Trump.

1787
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,400
So I want to tell people in the

1788
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,040
military who I know watch your show that

1789
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,480
theoretically, if you have officers, generals or colonels

1790
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,000
who try to get you to take part

1791
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,380
in a color revolution, please kill them for

1792
01:03:13,380 --> 01:03:13,920
us citizens.

1793
01:03:14,060 --> 01:03:15,080
Just shoot them in the face.

1794
01:03:15,420 --> 01:03:16,460
We'll appreciate it.

1795
01:03:16,700 --> 01:03:17,220
Theoretically.

1796
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:18,240
Okay.

1797
01:03:18,460 --> 01:03:20,840
So what he's saying is the deep state

1798
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:26,400
is organizing a color revolution, an insurrection against

1799
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:26,820
us.

1800
01:03:27,300 --> 01:03:29,060
And I'm like, wow, okay.

1801
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:33,020
And then the Lindell news host clears it

1802
01:03:33,020 --> 01:03:34,080
all up for us.

1803
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,800
There's actually a docuseries that general Michael Flynn

1804
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,740
produced about your life story.

1805
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,960
And this will make more sense now that

1806
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,040
you've shared this information.

1807
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:45,780
If you go back and watch that docuseries.

1808
01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:48,080
This is Flynn again.

1809
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,980
He, in fact, I mean, since he wrote

1810
01:03:52,980 --> 01:03:56,460
the book on psychological warfare, I'm now thinking

1811
01:03:56,460 --> 01:03:59,680
if you just keep saying that there's a

1812
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,320
color revolution, you might actually spark one.

1813
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,400
Or at best, you're going to.

1814
01:04:07,500 --> 01:04:09,780
So it's like a red scare.

1815
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:10,660
The guy's running.

1816
01:04:11,420 --> 01:04:13,720
So Flynn is still running ops.

1817
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:14,440
Yes.

1818
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:16,060
For who?

1819
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:16,980
The DIA?

1820
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,100
It's it is military related.

1821
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,000
It's military unclear, though.

1822
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,280
So, for instance, when.

1823
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,040
One of my contacts, you know, this may

1824
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,880
be the one of the reasons you when

1825
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,040
you met him that you had an uneasiness

1826
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,740
to to the meeting.

1827
01:04:36,940 --> 01:04:39,100
That that was just my my radar.

1828
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,440
Yeah, but yeah, but that's what you do.

1829
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:42,560
That's your job.

1830
01:04:44,460 --> 01:04:46,460
Basically, just to be honest, my whole job.

1831
01:04:46,540 --> 01:04:48,200
I got to go around the country meeting

1832
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:48,600
people.

1833
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,560
It's definitely part of your job is to

1834
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:51,460
sense things.

1835
01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:53,680
Yeah, well, I sense it right away.

1836
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,380
And maybe he sensed me.

1837
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,320
Maybe he's like, oh, oh, that guy.

1838
01:04:58,380 --> 01:04:59,400
We know all about him.

1839
01:04:59,960 --> 01:05:02,560
Because one of my contacts claimed that he

1840
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,480
gave Flynn the washed out picture of the

1841
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:06,680
Kud's.

1842
01:05:07,380 --> 01:05:08,240
Right, right.

1843
01:05:08,260 --> 01:05:10,320
You mentioned that one time after the show.

1844
01:05:10,540 --> 01:05:12,620
Yeah, the we know who I know who

1845
01:05:12,620 --> 01:05:13,080
that is.

1846
01:05:13,220 --> 01:05:13,720
He's my handler.

1847
01:05:13,940 --> 01:05:14,740
But, you know, I know it.

1848
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:15,280
I tell him.

1849
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,120
He's a Flynn guy.

1850
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:21,800
That's no secret there.

1851
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,160
And I told him, I said, Flynn's running

1852
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:23,580
an op.

1853
01:05:23,980 --> 01:05:26,000
He said, well, I gave this to Flynn,

1854
01:05:26,060 --> 01:05:27,080
so I'm running the op.

1855
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:28,680
I'm like, OK, I believe you.

1856
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,100
I'm good to go.

1857
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,680
And, you know, what's the op?

1858
01:05:38,300 --> 01:05:40,900
I mean, we don't people really don't know

1859
01:05:40,900 --> 01:05:43,080
that we kind of specialize in spotting this

1860
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:44,460
stuff, but we're never read in.

1861
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,540
And so we have to analyze it from

1862
01:05:46,540 --> 01:05:49,000
the outside, which is what to be honest

1863
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:50,700
about what they want us to do.

1864
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,660
Let's let's OK, let's look at it different

1865
01:05:52,660 --> 01:05:53,060
ways.

1866
01:05:53,940 --> 01:05:58,340
It could be it's very possible that because

1867
01:05:58,340 --> 01:06:01,540
I also know that one of Trump's rich

1868
01:06:01,540 --> 01:06:04,840
friends bailed out Flynn, he had some enormous

1869
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,180
debts, probably legal bills, and that was all

1870
01:06:07,180 --> 01:06:08,540
taken care of by somebody.

1871
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:10,060
That's just what I heard.

1872
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:11,080
But I believe this.

1873
01:06:11,180 --> 01:06:12,020
I'm sure it's true.

1874
01:06:12,180 --> 01:06:13,180
Yeah, I think that's true.

1875
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,280
So it could be that this is being

1876
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:16,740
made.

1877
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,980
So there is, of course, there are factions

1878
01:06:19,980 --> 01:06:22,740
inside our government and certainly inside our military

1879
01:06:22,740 --> 01:06:24,080
who are no good.

1880
01:06:25,180 --> 01:06:27,280
And so if you turn it into this

1881
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,880
is a color revolution and these people are

1882
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,000
out to start war, civil war in America,

1883
01:06:33,180 --> 01:06:36,580
just like the movie, the Obamas, then it

1884
01:06:36,580 --> 01:06:41,500
coming from the Michael Flynn faction, you know,

1885
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,400
add Laura Logan in there because she's been

1886
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,380
on this nonstop, throw some Muslim stuff in

1887
01:06:46,380 --> 01:06:50,060
their Muslim Brotherhood, all of that stuff.

1888
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,540
You know, you can start to smoke people

1889
01:06:52,540 --> 01:06:52,900
out.

1890
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,140
And maybe that's the idea to smoke them

1891
01:06:57,140 --> 01:06:58,840
out, smoke them out, smoke them out.

1892
01:06:59,940 --> 01:07:01,380
That's not a bad idea.

1893
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:02,700
No, no.

1894
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,800
But it's a little annoying that it that

1895
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,500
it comes like Patrick Byrne.

1896
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,020
Really, that's the guy you're going to use.

1897
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,580
I mean, he sounds he sounds nuts.

1898
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,840
He does sound and I believe I'd be

1899
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,340
nuts to have you were doing all that

1900
01:07:16,340 --> 01:07:16,680
work.

1901
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,700
Yeah, and I believe what he says.

1902
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,240
I think he's probably telling the truth, although

1903
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,980
his credibility has dropped a little bit because,

1904
01:07:25,180 --> 01:07:26,020
well, I was dancing around.

1905
01:07:26,060 --> 01:07:26,940
I wasn't really lying.

1906
01:07:26,940 --> 01:07:28,400
I was just kind of fibbing a little

1907
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:29,040
bit, OK?

1908
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,980
Yeah, which means it's M.O. Yeah.

1909
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,680
So there's definitely something going on.

1910
01:07:35,740 --> 01:07:37,680
It's very similar to the U.K. Ultra.

1911
01:07:39,060 --> 01:07:40,600
It's my new name for it.

1912
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,540
Candace Owens is U.K. Ultra.

1913
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:44,260
She's not she's not M.K. Ultra.

1914
01:07:44,380 --> 01:07:45,260
She's U.K. Ultra.

1915
01:07:48,460 --> 01:07:50,720
So I was presented with some some some

1916
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,900
one of the theories about Candace freaking out

1917
01:07:53,900 --> 01:07:57,360
of late is that she was she's actually

1918
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:58,380
had before.

1919
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,320
It's from one of our mutual friends is

1920
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:06,820
data with some screenshots about this theory that

1921
01:08:06,820 --> 01:08:09,840
she was she had an affair with Charlie

1922
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,360
Kirk before he was married by three or

1923
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,680
four years when she was part of Turning

1924
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:15,340
Point USA.

1925
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,080
And then she got kicked out when she

1926
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,740
sided with the Kanye and the Jew haters

1927
01:08:21,740 --> 01:08:23,960
and got kicked out of the operation.

1928
01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:24,540
Yeah.

1929
01:08:24,540 --> 01:08:26,779
And Charlie had to break up with her.

1930
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,899
And he ended up finding the other girl

1931
01:08:28,899 --> 01:08:29,760
marrying her.

1932
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,399
But she is acting to quote it.

1933
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,100
The quote is she's acting like the crazy

1934
01:08:36,100 --> 01:08:37,180
ex-girlfriend.

1935
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,279
All the earmarks of a crazy ex-girlfriend

1936
01:08:40,279 --> 01:08:44,279
blaming everybody in the organization for killing Charlie.

1937
01:08:44,620 --> 01:08:46,160
And because she hates all of them because

1938
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,500
other ones have kicked her out and removed

1939
01:08:48,500 --> 01:08:50,200
her from Charlie to begin with.

1940
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:50,740
Hmm.

1941
01:08:51,819 --> 01:08:54,120
Well, I have two clips pertaining to this

1942
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:54,899
since we're on it.

1943
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,279
The first is, you know, we have a

1944
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:00,479
couple more people in the fray.

1945
01:09:00,859 --> 01:09:02,920
Tim Pool jumped in.

1946
01:09:05,020 --> 01:09:05,979
Jumped in the pool.

1947
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,319
This whole thing is it reminds me of

1948
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:11,560
like when CB radioed when everyone had one.

1949
01:09:11,580 --> 01:09:12,600
It just got crap.

1950
01:09:12,939 --> 01:09:16,040
And everybody's like breaker breaking.

1951
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,439
This is rubber duck.

1952
01:09:18,500 --> 01:09:19,720
You suck more than my duck.

1953
01:09:20,700 --> 01:09:23,979
Or like the guys on 80 meters in

1954
01:09:23,979 --> 01:09:24,760
the middle of the night.

1955
01:09:25,399 --> 01:09:26,979
The good old boys.

1956
01:09:27,660 --> 01:09:28,460
Yeah, it's different.

1957
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,200
The CB radio phenomenon.

1958
01:09:30,779 --> 01:09:33,640
Most people today don't remember it or it's

1959
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,500
new to them because it happened before their

1960
01:09:35,500 --> 01:09:35,899
time.

1961
01:09:36,540 --> 01:09:38,620
That was one of the most phenomenal things

1962
01:09:38,620 --> 01:09:40,300
I've ever witnessed as a fad.

1963
01:09:41,420 --> 01:09:43,200
Everybody had a CB radio.

1964
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,140
And everyone was was talking smack about each

1965
01:09:46,140 --> 01:09:47,160
other at a certain point.

1966
01:09:47,220 --> 01:09:47,760
It was unbelievable.

1967
01:09:48,300 --> 01:09:48,939
It was out of control.

1968
01:09:49,260 --> 01:09:51,060
It was completely out of except for channel

1969
01:09:51,060 --> 01:09:51,460
nine.

1970
01:09:51,620 --> 01:09:52,740
That's the emergency channel.

1971
01:09:53,140 --> 01:09:55,120
We don't touch channel nine, but channel 19.

1972
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,260
No, that was that was horrible anyway.

1973
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:03,800
So it's and it's just maybe there's a

1974
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:04,680
million people.

1975
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,600
Maybe there's three, maybe there's five that really

1976
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,740
care about this and nobody else cares.

1977
01:10:10,740 --> 01:10:14,260
And this is starting to burn out because

1978
01:10:14,260 --> 01:10:16,880
they just can't get any crazier.

1979
01:10:17,540 --> 01:10:19,280
And I think Megan Kelly's smart.

1980
01:10:19,380 --> 01:10:20,160
She's backing away.

1981
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,120
It's like, this is a fireball.

1982
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:23,240
I don't want to have any part of

1983
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:23,360
that.

1984
01:10:23,420 --> 01:10:24,760
So here's Tim Pool jumping in.

1985
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,020
And then we have this tweet from Sarah

1986
01:10:26,020 --> 01:10:26,320
Fields.

1987
01:10:27,180 --> 01:10:29,120
According to Candace Owens, this is who to

1988
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,080
blame for the assassination of Charlie Kirk based

1989
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:32,660
on her own public statements on X and

1990
01:10:32,660 --> 01:10:33,300
on her podcast.

1991
01:10:33,340 --> 01:10:33,980
I've kept track.

1992
01:10:34,780 --> 01:10:35,080
Okay.

1993
01:10:35,420 --> 01:10:37,460
The French government, including Emmanuel Macron and Bridget

1994
01:10:37,460 --> 01:10:39,560
McCrone, the French Foreign Legion, 13th Brigade, the

1995
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,060
Gendarmerie Intervention Group, Israel, Israeli operatives and Benjamin

1996
01:10:43,060 --> 01:10:44,700
Netanyahu, Jewish donors, the U.S. government, feds

1997
01:10:44,700 --> 01:10:45,800
and the FBI, the deep state, the CIA,

1998
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,120
turning point, USA executives and leadership, including Tiger

1999
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,260
Boyer, Andrew Colvett, Erica Kirk, yes, his wife,

2000
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,420
Blake Neff, Pastor Rob McCoy, Josh Hammer, Pierre

2001
01:10:52,420 --> 01:10:55,000
DuPont and DuPont family, Stacey Sheridan, Freemasons, the

2002
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,680
broader French interests, BB Nutt and Yahoo with

2003
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,660
Israel connections, Egypt and Egyptian operations, Egypt planes

2004
01:11:01,660 --> 01:11:04,380
and joint exercises, Bolsheviks and anti-Christian forces,

2005
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:09,380
maroon shirted individuals, suspected operatives or military, TPUSA

2006
01:11:09,380 --> 01:11:11,160
associated influencers, e.g. Alex Clark.

2007
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:12,400
Are you done yet?

2008
01:11:12,740 --> 01:11:15,360
There are only three possible reason, possible reasons

2009
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:16,100
for her nonsense.

2010
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,320
Either she's evil, mentally ill or a complete

2011
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:18,640
grifter.

2012
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:19,580
Which is it?

2013
01:11:19,620 --> 01:11:21,200
Because a truth teller is not even on

2014
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:22,200
the table anymore.

2015
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:26,960
It was interesting to see Andy Ngo posted

2016
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,100
an excerpt from his substack.

2017
01:11:29,220 --> 01:11:30,200
You remember Andy Ngo?

2018
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:31,160
He was heralded.

2019
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:32,200
Brave.

2020
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:33,500
He's still around on Twitter.

2021
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:34,440
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

2022
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:35,500
Brave Andy Ngo.

2023
01:11:35,500 --> 01:11:38,860
He got beat up by the Antifa in

2024
01:11:38,860 --> 01:11:39,920
Seattle, I think.

2025
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:41,080
Couple of times.

2026
01:11:41,220 --> 01:11:45,320
And he posted a very reasonable substack.

2027
01:11:45,340 --> 01:11:46,800
It was pretty much what we talked about.

2028
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,400
It's like, you know, the reason we don't

2029
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,020
know anything is there's a gag order.

2030
01:11:50,180 --> 01:11:51,820
You can't pollute the jury pool.

2031
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,980
There's all this information is going to come

2032
01:11:53,980 --> 01:11:54,700
out in trial.

2033
01:11:55,660 --> 01:11:57,280
Was it really a 30-odd-six?

2034
01:11:58,500 --> 01:12:01,300
That's the main thing is, oh, 30-odd

2035
01:12:01,300 --> 01:12:01,520
-six.

2036
01:12:01,620 --> 01:12:04,000
We really don't, you know, we really don't

2037
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:04,820
know anything.

2038
01:12:04,820 --> 01:12:08,620
And he got just roasted by, of all

2039
01:12:08,620 --> 01:12:10,460
people, Jimmy Dore.

2040
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,140
So Jimmy Dore is like, oh, I got

2041
01:12:13,140 --> 01:12:15,860
to sell some stand-up concert tickets here.

2042
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:16,840
Let me jump in here.

2043
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:18,580
You idiot.

2044
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,460
Only an idiot wouldn't question the narrative.

2045
01:12:23,220 --> 01:12:23,740
Wow.

2046
01:12:25,260 --> 01:12:25,520
Yeah.

2047
01:12:25,700 --> 01:12:27,360
It doesn't sound like Jimmy Dore, but.

2048
01:12:27,580 --> 01:12:30,180
And so, but I think the first kind

2049
01:12:30,180 --> 01:12:32,160
of public victim is going to be Tucker,

2050
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,240
because Tucker doesn't really understand.

2051
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,380
I don't think he understands quite yet how

2052
01:12:37,380 --> 01:12:41,520
this works, because he's relatively new to the

2053
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:42,880
social media phenomenon.

2054
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,100
Oh, this is an interesting point.

2055
01:12:45,260 --> 01:12:47,260
Now, I was going to get some Tucker

2056
01:12:47,260 --> 01:12:47,700
clips.

2057
01:12:47,900 --> 01:12:49,720
Not that I don't have enough clips that

2058
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,380
I'm not playing, but the Tucker was in

2059
01:12:53,380 --> 01:12:54,160
Qatar.

2060
01:12:54,620 --> 01:12:54,780
Yes.

2061
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:56,160
Do you have the clip?

2062
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,380
No, but we can summarize it.

2063
01:12:58,680 --> 01:12:58,860
I can.

2064
01:12:59,000 --> 01:12:59,600
Yes.

2065
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:04,740
He goes to Qatar and under the shadow

2066
01:13:04,740 --> 01:13:08,340
of Mark Levin accusing him of financing his

2067
01:13:08,340 --> 01:13:10,340
entire network with Qatar money.

2068
01:13:10,580 --> 01:13:10,680
Yeah.

2069
01:13:10,820 --> 01:13:13,440
He goes to Qatar and to some big

2070
01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:16,040
event there, some Middle Eastern thing, and he

2071
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:17,300
goes on stage.

2072
01:13:18,020 --> 01:13:19,900
You notice him in the audience, but he

2073
01:13:19,900 --> 01:13:21,360
goes on stage to interview.

2074
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,800
Interview the president, his eminence.

2075
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,820
The Sheikh Amir, whatever he wants to call

2076
01:13:29,820 --> 01:13:29,920
him.

2077
01:13:29,940 --> 01:13:30,420
The prince.

2078
01:13:31,480 --> 01:13:34,260
And so, and to get to say, no,

2079
01:13:34,420 --> 01:13:35,700
I love the Jews.

2080
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:37,440
No, we don't like Hamas.

2081
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,420
The United States told us to put Hamas

2082
01:13:40,420 --> 01:13:40,660
here.

2083
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:41,680
That's why they're here.

2084
01:13:41,860 --> 01:13:42,920
It's got nothing to do with that.

2085
01:13:43,220 --> 01:13:45,420
So he's doing an apology of everything.

2086
01:13:45,660 --> 01:13:47,420
And Qatar's, the Qatar, I'm sorry.

2087
01:13:49,220 --> 01:13:51,420
Tucker is leading him into the, you know,

2088
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,920
when people say this, oh, that's bull crap.

2089
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:56,540
And so Tucker's doing the whole thing in

2090
01:13:56,540 --> 01:13:58,580
that very end of the meeting.

2091
01:13:59,420 --> 01:14:01,900
But 20 minute interview at the very end,

2092
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,000
Tucker says, you know, I've been accused of

2093
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:05,420
taking Qatari money.

2094
01:14:05,620 --> 01:14:05,820
Yeah.

2095
01:14:05,940 --> 01:14:06,840
Is that true?

2096
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:08,200
And I guess it's not that I know

2097
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:08,540
of.

2098
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,400
And then he says, and I'm going to

2099
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:12,220
mention this.

2100
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:13,840
I bought a house here.

2101
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:15,580
I'm moving to Qatar.

2102
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,960
I think it's a great, beautiful country.

2103
01:14:18,180 --> 01:14:18,600
I love it here.

2104
01:14:18,660 --> 01:14:18,920
No, no.

2105
01:14:19,060 --> 01:14:20,220
He didn't say he's moving.

2106
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,640
He says, I bought a house here because

2107
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:23,340
I'm a free man.

2108
01:14:23,380 --> 01:14:23,960
I'm an American.

2109
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:25,440
I can do whatever I want.

2110
01:14:25,500 --> 01:14:25,960
You're right.

2111
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:26,360
You're right.

2112
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:26,940
Like, whoa.

2113
01:14:26,980 --> 01:14:27,320
Okay.

2114
01:14:27,740 --> 01:14:28,840
And he never said he was going to

2115
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:30,180
move there, but he said a house and

2116
01:14:30,180 --> 01:14:32,720
he said investment property, maybe says in Doha,

2117
01:14:32,820 --> 01:14:34,600
because I think it's a beautiful city.

2118
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,780
I actually, I went on the Zillow and

2119
01:14:38,780 --> 01:14:40,820
I went looking at Doha.

2120
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,680
He's not, it's a manufactured thing in the

2121
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:44,000
desert.

2122
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:45,080
It's not beautiful.

2123
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,580
No, it's like a Bechtel city.

2124
01:14:47,780 --> 01:14:49,340
The women are all covered up.

2125
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,120
The only woman is not covered up in

2126
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,020
the Middle Eastern, that area, including, you know,

2127
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,060
Dubai, they're all covered up.

2128
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:57,200
And it's just kind of pathetic.

2129
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:58,160
And they're wearing black.

2130
01:14:58,200 --> 01:14:59,260
And it's like hot there.

2131
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,360
Yeah, it was the woman who was the

2132
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:02,340
host of this event.

2133
01:15:02,420 --> 01:15:03,020
She comes out.

2134
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:04,820
She's not wearing any hijab or anything.

2135
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,480
She comes out, yak, yak, yak.

2136
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,780
And Tucker's thinking, this is great.

2137
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,840
I like this town, but you're right.

2138
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,320
It's not a pretty, no, none of those

2139
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:13,280
places are beautiful.

2140
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:14,000
This is Tucker.

2141
01:15:14,140 --> 01:15:15,800
Like, I love being in Maine with my

2142
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,980
dogs and hunting and fishing and, and my

2143
01:15:18,980 --> 01:15:19,140
love.

2144
01:15:19,140 --> 01:15:20,260
I love my truck.

2145
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:21,400
I love my truck.

2146
01:15:22,020 --> 01:15:24,300
You know, it's like, like what?

2147
01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:26,200
That was so odd.

2148
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,800
And then there was, you know, on the

2149
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,720
street interviews and he's, he's getting, you know,

2150
01:15:31,820 --> 01:15:32,980
people say look flustered.

2151
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:33,520
I don't know.

2152
01:15:33,540 --> 01:15:34,140
It's just Tucker.

2153
01:15:34,300 --> 01:15:35,820
By the way, isn't it funny that Tucker

2154
01:15:35,820 --> 01:15:38,160
and Cutter, it's like if you just reverse

2155
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:38,440
Tucker.

2156
01:15:38,460 --> 01:15:40,720
Yeah, I was having trouble getting it out.

2157
01:15:40,860 --> 01:15:41,020
Yeah.

2158
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:45,640
So I was watching a YouTube interview of

2159
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,040
Charles Asher Small of ISGAP.

2160
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,480
That's the Institute of the Study of Global

2161
01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:54,300
Anti-Semitism and Policy.

2162
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:56,600
He's a, he's the Jew guy.

2163
01:15:57,260 --> 01:16:01,120
So the Jew guy is on with, well,

2164
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:01,760
that's what he is.

2165
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,120
I mean, the whole thing is like anti

2166
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:04,620
-Semites.

2167
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:04,900
Okay.

2168
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,960
So he's on with the Jew guy and

2169
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,000
the Jew guy tackles Tucker and Candace.

2170
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:12,160
But we also have.

2171
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,180
By the way, I should say it was

2172
01:16:14,180 --> 01:16:15,900
interesting and I'm probably going to get more

2173
01:16:15,900 --> 01:16:17,400
clips from this guy in the future because

2174
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,980
he was connecting the Muslim Brotherhood to everything.

2175
01:16:21,820 --> 01:16:24,060
And of course, which comes really actually comes

2176
01:16:24,060 --> 01:16:24,620
out of England.

2177
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:25,720
We can't forget that.

2178
01:16:25,860 --> 01:16:27,560
That's why I'm so interested in it.

2179
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,260
That's why I'm watching this interview because this

2180
01:16:30,260 --> 01:16:31,720
would be so you can back up your

2181
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,520
thesis even more with more clips about me.

2182
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,260
It's called confirmation bias and I love it.

2183
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,540
But we also have to, I think, turn

2184
01:16:40,540 --> 01:16:42,040
our gaze to the radical right.

2185
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:45,640
The Qataris are starting to fund people like

2186
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:46,860
Tucker Carlson.

2187
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,180
And do we have evidence of that?

2188
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,620
Because I keep wondering that about Tucker Carlson.

2189
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,420
Yeah, he's actually registered.

2190
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,100
He has a company that's registered and getting,

2191
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:56,720
they're getting funding for the Qataris.

2192
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:57,900
So that's established.

2193
01:16:58,080 --> 01:16:59,120
We know that for sure.

2194
01:16:59,220 --> 01:16:59,920
Yes, we do.

2195
01:17:00,340 --> 01:17:02,820
Because with Candace, I feel like she's just

2196
01:17:02,820 --> 01:17:04,540
a bit nuts and ideological.

2197
01:17:04,900 --> 01:17:06,080
Her husband is interesting.

2198
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,260
I think he's an extreme kind of a,

2199
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:09,340
yeah, I don't know.

2200
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:10,580
I don't know enough, but yeah.

2201
01:17:10,580 --> 01:17:13,180
Her husband was born a woman, wasn't he?

2202
01:17:13,740 --> 01:17:14,900
Oh, that's what, yeah.

2203
01:17:15,220 --> 01:17:15,860
That's what the...

2204
01:17:15,860 --> 01:17:17,280
Candace's husband was born a woman.

2205
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:19,420
That's a joke before she comes and sues

2206
01:17:19,420 --> 01:17:19,880
me.

2207
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,640
That should be the topic of our next

2208
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:22,980
interview.

2209
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:24,740
What, wait, stop.

2210
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,340
I couldn't follow any of that.

2211
01:17:29,020 --> 01:17:29,680
What was he saying?

2212
01:17:29,940 --> 01:17:33,060
They're talking to me with this borderline accent.

2213
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,640
But what, can you please...

2214
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,440
Yeah, let me summarize.

2215
01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:39,540
So first of all, you heard him say,

2216
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:41,520
yes, we know that Tucker has a company

2217
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:42,500
that is taking money.

2218
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,120
Well, he didn't say what the name of

2219
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:46,140
the company was.

2220
01:17:46,540 --> 01:17:48,720
And I probably can't find it anywhere.

2221
01:17:48,860 --> 01:17:52,360
But he's, he's saying that with a little

2222
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,280
more insight than Mark Levin.

2223
01:17:55,180 --> 01:17:56,300
Mark Levin!

2224
01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,700
Who I do not watch.

2225
01:18:00,020 --> 01:18:01,180
This is annoying.

2226
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:03,920
And then...

2227
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,060
On Fridays, I'm sorry, on Saturday and Sundays,

2228
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:07,920
he's on Fox.

2229
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:09,640
I think he's one of those prima donnas

2230
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:10,720
that they don't like there.

2231
01:18:11,140 --> 01:18:13,360
But he's comes on for, he does a

2232
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,200
couple of, he does an hour on Friday,

2233
01:18:16,440 --> 01:18:18,380
or sorry, Saturday and Sunday each.

2234
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,520
And he gives, at the beginning of those,

2235
01:18:20,580 --> 01:18:23,620
of those shows, he gives a lecture, literally

2236
01:18:23,620 --> 01:18:25,380
a lecture, like he's a professor.

2237
01:18:25,980 --> 01:18:28,360
And it's, it's often quite good.

2238
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:29,800
Well, good.

2239
01:18:29,860 --> 01:18:30,540
That's your beat.

2240
01:18:30,540 --> 01:18:32,740
And I expect you to bring many interesting

2241
01:18:32,740 --> 01:18:35,160
clips from Mark Levin, the great one.

2242
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,280
So then what happens is the host says,

2243
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,980
well, Candace Owens, I think she's just nuts.

2244
01:18:42,140 --> 01:18:43,840
And the guy says, now remember, this is

2245
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,080
the Muslim Brotherhood expert.

2246
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,840
He says, well, her husband is very interesting.

2247
01:18:48,420 --> 01:18:52,220
Of course, he's related to Lord Farmer, which

2248
01:18:52,220 --> 01:18:54,300
is complete British society.

2249
01:18:54,540 --> 01:18:57,800
And they've got nonprofits and everything, you know,

2250
01:18:57,820 --> 01:19:00,160
for, I don't know, for dogs or whatever

2251
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:00,680
it is.

2252
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,300
Oh, I should mention the crazy ex-girlfriend

2253
01:19:04,300 --> 01:19:04,720
thesis.

2254
01:19:04,900 --> 01:19:06,880
The guy who presents that had pictures of

2255
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:10,320
her with Charlie and then pictures of her

2256
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,620
with her husband saying, look, they look similar.

2257
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:14,600
She has a thing for guys that have

2258
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:15,420
this certain look.

2259
01:19:15,620 --> 01:19:17,300
Well, and then the host says.

2260
01:19:17,480 --> 01:19:18,300
Nuts and ideological.

2261
01:19:18,420 --> 01:19:19,840
Her husband is interesting.

2262
01:19:20,020 --> 01:19:22,020
I think he's an extreme kind of a,

2263
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:23,000
yeah, I don't know.

2264
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:24,340
I don't know enough, but yeah.

2265
01:19:25,140 --> 01:19:26,940
Her husband was born a woman, wasn't he?

2266
01:19:26,940 --> 01:19:29,760
So then the host says her husband was

2267
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:30,940
born a woman, wasn't he?

2268
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,620
Which is obviously a joke about the McCrones.

2269
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:35,640
But I kind of, I thought that was

2270
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:35,920
funny.

2271
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:37,400
Oh, okay.

2272
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,060
That's why I got messed up.

2273
01:19:39,180 --> 01:19:40,480
I'd left it in there.

2274
01:19:40,940 --> 01:19:41,660
It's good.

2275
01:19:41,740 --> 01:19:42,160
It's funny.

2276
01:19:42,620 --> 01:19:49,440
The scorned ex-girlfriend theory is as valid

2277
01:19:49,440 --> 01:19:50,220
as anything.

2278
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:53,840
Crazy ex-girlfriend.

2279
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:55,260
Crazy ex-girlfriend.

2280
01:19:55,380 --> 01:19:57,000
But then what is her husband doing?

2281
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:58,620
I mean, he must just be loving it.

2282
01:19:58,660 --> 01:20:00,900
Otherwise you'd say, baby, you got to stop

2283
01:20:00,900 --> 01:20:01,460
doing this.

2284
01:20:01,660 --> 01:20:02,280
Yeah, stop.

2285
01:20:02,940 --> 01:20:04,080
Honey, you got to stop.

2286
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:05,520
This has gone too far.

2287
01:20:06,300 --> 01:20:08,140
But to me, that feels very much like,

2288
01:20:08,220 --> 01:20:08,700
yeah, yeah, yeah.

2289
01:20:08,700 --> 01:20:09,360
This is great.

2290
01:20:09,440 --> 01:20:10,560
Look at what my wife is doing.

2291
01:20:10,660 --> 01:20:11,680
Look at what my wife is doing.

2292
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,360
She's stirring everything up and getting everything, breaking

2293
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,540
up the grand old party, breaking up MAGA.

2294
01:20:17,980 --> 01:20:18,640
She's doing great.

2295
01:20:18,700 --> 01:20:19,760
Good old there, Candace.

2296
01:20:19,860 --> 01:20:21,280
I'll take care of the four kids.

2297
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:22,260
Don't you worry about it.

2298
01:20:22,260 --> 01:20:23,040
I'll take care of it.

2299
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:25,440
That was pretty good, actually.

2300
01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:27,440
Yeah, you were dailing it.

2301
01:20:27,480 --> 01:20:28,740
I didn't have enough gay in there.

2302
01:20:29,820 --> 01:20:31,680
Doing British gay is not easy.

2303
01:20:34,140 --> 01:20:35,620
It's one of the hardest things.

2304
01:20:36,580 --> 01:20:38,360
British gay is not easy to do.

2305
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:45,860
So, you know, again, I think it's UK

2306
01:20:45,860 --> 01:20:46,340
ultra.

2307
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,000
This is under some kind of weird spell.

2308
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,280
Just makes no sense.

2309
01:20:54,020 --> 01:20:54,980
But people love it.

2310
01:20:54,980 --> 01:20:56,300
People are all over it.

2311
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,080
This is so much fun.

2312
01:20:58,420 --> 01:20:58,940
I love it.

2313
01:20:59,140 --> 01:21:01,580
What did Tim Poole say about you?

2314
01:21:01,700 --> 01:21:03,160
Ooh, what did you say about him?

2315
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:05,120
I told these guys it's all like a

2316
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:05,980
circle jerk.

2317
01:21:06,100 --> 01:21:06,680
It's unbelievable.

2318
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,220
But Tucker's getting caught in the crossfire.

2319
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,200
He has no idea that he's out of

2320
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:11,740
his league.

2321
01:21:11,860 --> 01:21:13,860
This is just not what he does.

2322
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:15,920
He would do his Fox show and, you

2323
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,740
know, go back to Maine and whatever.

2324
01:21:19,540 --> 01:21:21,220
Then now it's like, I'm an American.

2325
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:22,700
I can do whatever.

2326
01:21:22,780 --> 01:21:23,420
I'm a free man.

2327
01:21:23,460 --> 01:21:23,880
I'm an American.

2328
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:25,000
I can buy a house in Doha.

2329
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:27,600
I don't.

2330
01:21:27,740 --> 01:21:29,760
I have some very wealthy friends.

2331
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,860
Not a single one ever said I'm buying

2332
01:21:32,860 --> 01:21:34,840
a house in Doha because it's such a

2333
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:35,800
beautiful city.

2334
01:21:35,820 --> 01:21:36,280
So beautiful.

2335
01:21:36,580 --> 01:21:37,200
So beautiful.

2336
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,580
And real estate is actually not too bad

2337
01:21:39,580 --> 01:21:41,360
there for about 700,000.

2338
01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:45,080
You can get a nice dollars, that is.

2339
01:21:45,140 --> 01:21:47,580
You can get a nice multi-room apartment

2340
01:21:47,580 --> 01:21:52,500
overlooking the water, the bay, and the manufactured

2341
01:21:52,500 --> 01:21:53,100
pools.

2342
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:54,680
If you want.

2343
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:57,080
Who wants?

2344
01:21:58,140 --> 01:21:58,860
It's inconvenient.

2345
01:21:59,740 --> 01:21:59,900
Yeah.

2346
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:01,100
It's out of the way.

2347
01:22:01,460 --> 01:22:01,620
Yeah.

2348
01:22:01,620 --> 01:22:02,960
I mean, of all the places you want

2349
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,720
to go, that's the last place I'd want

2350
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:04,980
to go.

2351
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,240
It's easier to get to Beijing than it

2352
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:08,020
is to get there.

2353
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:09,900
Oh, that's a good point.

2354
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,160
Well, Tucker probably flies private.

2355
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:13,240
It's a total pain in the ass to

2356
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:14,680
get to the Middle East from the United

2357
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:15,120
States.

2358
01:22:15,300 --> 01:22:16,560
The Qataris send the jet.

2359
01:22:17,340 --> 01:22:18,740
Well, they probably do, but it's still a

2360
01:22:18,740 --> 01:22:19,180
long.

2361
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:20,140
It's a long haul.

2362
01:22:20,180 --> 01:22:20,980
A long haul.

2363
01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:23,120
Yeah, that's a long way to go.

2364
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:23,900
Yeah.

2365
01:22:24,780 --> 01:22:25,740
Hey, you know what?

2366
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,360
If Qatar came along and said, here's 5

2367
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:28,980
million bucks.

2368
01:22:29,100 --> 01:22:30,580
And oh, by the way, use the jet

2369
01:22:30,580 --> 01:22:31,520
whenever you want to.

2370
01:22:31,860 --> 01:22:33,560
Dude, I'd be picking you up.

2371
01:22:34,740 --> 01:22:35,260
Oh, yeah.

2372
01:22:35,340 --> 01:22:35,800
Let's roll.

2373
01:22:35,900 --> 01:22:36,500
No, that's different.

2374
01:22:36,860 --> 01:22:38,120
Let's roll, Dvorak.

2375
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,840
But if that's the case, Tucker should be

2376
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:43,880
honest about it.

2377
01:22:45,440 --> 01:22:45,920
Yeah.

2378
01:22:46,100 --> 01:22:47,240
Because nobody would care.

2379
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:51,780
Well, I mean, how tone deaf are you

2380
01:22:51,780 --> 01:22:54,560
with all of what everyone is saying to

2381
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,740
show up in Qatar to interview?

2382
01:22:57,780 --> 01:22:59,540
And the interview was 20 minutes.

2383
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,720
Like, I didn't really add anything to my

2384
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:03,040
life.

2385
01:23:03,140 --> 01:23:06,180
There was nothing shocking other than what I

2386
01:23:06,180 --> 01:23:08,540
think he was trying to do, was trying

2387
01:23:08,540 --> 01:23:10,380
to say, because that was the only thing

2388
01:23:10,380 --> 01:23:13,640
that really came out of it, was the

2389
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:20,340
Israelis bombed Qatar and it wasn't President Trump's

2390
01:23:20,340 --> 01:23:20,840
direction.

2391
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,140
That was, I think, the crux of the

2392
01:23:24,140 --> 01:23:28,800
interview, because Trump, according to the emir, called

2393
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,540
him a few minutes before it happened and

2394
01:23:30,540 --> 01:23:32,040
said, oh, crap, I'm really sorry.

2395
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:33,600
These guys are about to bomb you.

2396
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:38,920
And then he made Bibi Netanyahu call and

2397
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:39,460
apologize.

2398
01:23:39,460 --> 01:23:41,500
That was the crux of the interview.

2399
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,220
But he didn't.

2400
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,340
Why do you need to go to Doha

2401
01:23:45,340 --> 01:23:46,720
to get that out of the guy?

2402
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:47,420
Who cares?

2403
01:23:48,140 --> 01:23:49,220
Who are you working for?

2404
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:49,960
No, I'm agreeing.

2405
01:23:50,220 --> 01:23:52,300
He went to Doha to collect his check.

2406
01:23:52,740 --> 01:23:54,800
And, you know, Hillary Clinton was there.

2407
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:57,860
You know, the whole thing just has a

2408
01:23:57,860 --> 01:23:58,500
bad look.

2409
01:23:58,620 --> 01:23:59,120
Bill Gates.

2410
01:23:59,580 --> 01:24:00,880
Bill Gates spoke there, of course.

2411
01:24:00,940 --> 01:24:01,500
He was?

2412
01:24:01,740 --> 01:24:02,180
Yes.

2413
01:24:02,480 --> 01:24:02,920
Oh, yeah.

2414
01:24:03,420 --> 01:24:03,860
Why?

2415
01:24:05,100 --> 01:24:06,680
Gavi, man, Gavi.

2416
01:24:07,440 --> 01:24:08,180
I don't know.

2417
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:09,800
He's too boring.

2418
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:11,100
He's always the same thing.

2419
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:12,160
Kill people.

2420
01:24:12,660 --> 01:24:13,820
We don't have enough people.

2421
01:24:14,020 --> 01:24:15,400
They have too many people on the planet.

2422
01:24:15,540 --> 01:24:16,120
Get rid of them.

2423
01:24:16,540 --> 01:24:16,960
Shoot them up.

2424
01:24:17,140 --> 01:24:17,580
Vaccines.

2425
01:24:17,660 --> 01:24:17,980
Good.

2426
01:24:18,940 --> 01:24:20,180
RFK Jr. Bad.

2427
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,420
Talking about RFK Jr. Bad.

2428
01:24:24,580 --> 01:24:27,280
Of course, they tried to impeach him, which

2429
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:28,020
is bullcrap.

2430
01:24:28,180 --> 01:24:29,700
But I have a couple of I have

2431
01:24:29,700 --> 01:24:31,760
some underreported clips I want to get to

2432
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,900
stuff that hasn't been discussed.

2433
01:24:34,140 --> 01:24:37,240
And we're off the Middle East.

2434
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:37,800
Yes.

2435
01:24:38,980 --> 01:24:41,340
And one of them was that Trump recently

2436
01:24:41,340 --> 01:24:45,040
fired one of the the one of the

2437
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,640
FTC women who he put in office in

2438
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,840
and her term was up in twenty nine.

2439
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:51,180
Right.

2440
01:24:51,340 --> 01:24:54,220
And didn't the Supreme Court say, yeah, you

2441
01:24:54,220 --> 01:24:55,540
have that you have that right?

2442
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:57,220
Well, no, they're working on it.

2443
01:24:57,220 --> 01:24:57,980
Oh, they're working on it.

2444
01:24:57,980 --> 01:25:00,060
OK, and the point is, is that what

2445
01:25:00,060 --> 01:25:02,020
Trump is trying to do is he want

2446
01:25:02,020 --> 01:25:05,480
because you can't there's these independent agencies that

2447
01:25:05,480 --> 01:25:07,560
were created like the FTC.

2448
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,160
And they kind of the appointment is the

2449
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:10,620
appointment.

2450
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,060
You can't fire them except for cause.

2451
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:17,400
And Trump specifically fired her without cause on

2452
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,800
purpose to get this thing to the Supreme

2453
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:20,280
Court.

2454
01:25:20,500 --> 01:25:21,100
Yeah, I got it.

2455
01:25:21,180 --> 01:25:23,300
And and I couldn't quite figure out what's

2456
01:25:23,300 --> 01:25:23,780
going on.

2457
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,920
But there's a long report, long thing on

2458
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:28,800
this on NPR.

2459
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,380
And I have a minute of it which

2460
01:25:31,380 --> 01:25:33,940
explains what they're really up against and what

2461
01:25:33,940 --> 01:25:34,620
they're trying to do.

2462
01:25:34,660 --> 01:25:38,860
And it's called the Unitary Unitary Executive Theory,

2463
01:25:38,860 --> 01:25:40,400
which I've never heard of before.

2464
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,120
And I thought this little clip would straighten

2465
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:42,580
it out.

2466
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,020
And it's something that predates Donald Trump.

2467
01:25:45,380 --> 01:25:47,860
And for a very long time, conservatives, especially

2468
01:25:47,860 --> 01:25:48,980
a lot of them who are on the

2469
01:25:48,980 --> 01:25:50,860
Supreme Court today, believe in something called the

2470
01:25:50,860 --> 01:25:54,320
Unitary Executive Theory, that the president should have

2471
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:58,080
powers at the expense of Congress to control

2472
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,000
everything in the executive branch.

2473
01:26:00,340 --> 01:26:03,460
And we really are undergoing a change in

2474
01:26:03,460 --> 01:26:05,860
our system of government before our very eyes

2475
01:26:05,860 --> 01:26:08,600
that is making the executive branch more powerful

2476
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:09,840
at the expense of Congress.

2477
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:13,120
In this case, Congress created these agencies, gave

2478
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:14,660
them a certain amount of independence.

2479
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,540
They thought that would be better to shield

2480
01:26:16,540 --> 01:26:17,820
them from political influence.

2481
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,180
But conservatives think that's just wrong.

2482
01:26:21,180 --> 01:26:24,740
And that guardrail of democracy is being demolished

2483
01:26:24,740 --> 01:26:26,380
by the Unitary Executive Theory.

2484
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:28,740
And also what that means is that the

2485
01:26:28,740 --> 01:26:31,760
professional civil service, which is also a guardrail,

2486
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:33,380
is also being demolished.

2487
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,400
Because if the president can fire the heads

2488
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,720
of these agencies, he certainly can fire all

2489
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:39,000
the people who work in them.

2490
01:26:39,660 --> 01:26:41,700
Well, I guess that comes down to the

2491
01:26:41,700 --> 01:26:42,460
Constitution.

2492
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,220
Well, these agencies are supposed to be under

2493
01:26:47,220 --> 01:26:49,580
the executive branch, even though they're created by

2494
01:26:49,580 --> 01:26:50,100
Congress.

2495
01:26:50,100 --> 01:26:52,680
And so he feels the executive branch has

2496
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:53,760
the, you know, they're the boss.

2497
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:55,580
So that's happening.

2498
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:57,660
But the other thing, the underreported news is

2499
01:26:57,660 --> 01:27:01,460
this, which I think is really underreported and

2500
01:27:01,460 --> 01:27:01,960
should be...

2501
01:27:03,020 --> 01:27:05,320
Highlighted here on the No Agenda podcast.

2502
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:06,800
Well, that's what we do.

2503
01:27:07,540 --> 01:27:12,920
This is about the court decision on the

2504
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:17,640
grand jury releasing the Epstein grand jury stuff.

2505
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:18,380
Listen to this.

2506
01:27:18,380 --> 01:27:20,560
A federal judge in New York has ruled

2507
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:23,440
the U.S. Department of Justice can publicly

2508
01:27:23,440 --> 01:27:27,480
release grand jury records from the 2019 sex

2509
01:27:27,480 --> 01:27:31,120
trafficking case against the late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

2510
01:27:31,420 --> 01:27:34,660
The judge cited a new law requiring files

2511
01:27:34,660 --> 01:27:36,880
about Epstein to be released by the end

2512
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:37,680
of next week.

2513
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,340
Well, if Congress mandates it, I don't see

2514
01:27:40,340 --> 01:27:42,300
why that would be...

2515
01:27:42,300 --> 01:27:44,160
I mean, it's new because everyone's like, oh,

2516
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:45,900
grand jury, shh, quiet.

2517
01:27:45,900 --> 01:27:48,880
Just stick everything in the grand jury testimony.

2518
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:50,520
We can't release that.

2519
01:27:51,100 --> 01:27:53,360
But once Congress says, okay, you have to

2520
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:54,640
release it, I think that's it.

2521
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:56,300
Well, that's what happened.

2522
01:27:56,620 --> 01:27:57,340
Yeah, well...

2523
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,460
But they didn't, you know, they made a

2524
01:28:00,460 --> 01:28:02,760
big fuss about not releasing that document because

2525
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:04,000
it's got a lot of stuff in it.

2526
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:05,320
Yeah, it's going to be juicy.

2527
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:06,520
But now it's going to be released and

2528
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:07,680
nobody's saying it.

2529
01:28:07,740 --> 01:28:09,420
All the news, where's the news on this?

2530
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:10,360
Where did I get this from?

2531
01:28:10,420 --> 01:28:11,680
The BBC World Service.

2532
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:13,940
I can tell you why, because what's in

2533
01:28:13,940 --> 01:28:16,000
this is going to be very embarrassing to

2534
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:17,620
a lot of people the news will not

2535
01:28:17,620 --> 01:28:18,600
want to report on.

2536
01:28:18,780 --> 01:28:19,840
So this could be front running.

2537
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:21,120
I think you're right.

2538
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,800
They could be front running, you know, like

2539
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,520
front running as in we're just not going

2540
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:26,420
to talk about it.

2541
01:28:27,460 --> 01:28:28,480
Because you're right.

2542
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,540
Why wouldn't they be on this nonstop and

2543
01:28:30,540 --> 01:28:33,200
said, drug boats, bombing boats, killing people?

2544
01:28:33,900 --> 01:28:34,420
Bombing boats, bombing boats.

2545
01:28:34,420 --> 01:28:37,060
Yeah, anything, anything, shh, not the Epstein files.

2546
01:28:37,700 --> 01:28:41,040
And I think probably everybody will benefit from

2547
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,760
this being very quiet because there's going to

2548
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:45,020
be a lot of implications.

2549
01:28:45,440 --> 01:28:46,700
And it's not going to be, I don't

2550
01:28:46,700 --> 01:28:47,940
think it's going to be sex stuff.

2551
01:28:48,260 --> 01:28:49,900
It's going to be money stuff.

2552
01:28:50,980 --> 01:28:53,240
People really get worried when it's about money.

2553
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:54,660
Who's getting money?

2554
01:28:54,740 --> 01:28:55,440
Who gave money?

2555
01:28:55,540 --> 01:28:56,420
Where'd the money go?

2556
01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:59,760
Your no agenda show will be all over

2557
01:28:59,760 --> 01:28:59,980
it.

2558
01:29:01,180 --> 01:29:03,200
And then I have this, this, this other

2559
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:03,540
one.

2560
01:29:03,540 --> 01:29:07,080
This I got from Jesse Waters, which is

2561
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:08,880
hard to clip, as you say, but it's

2562
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:09,340
impossible.

2563
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,980
He likes to have Kevin McCarthy on, who

2564
01:29:11,980 --> 01:29:17,260
is an outstanding analyst for anything going on

2565
01:29:17,260 --> 01:29:17,740
in the government.

2566
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,020
He'll bring McCarthy on, calls him K-Mac.

2567
01:29:20,140 --> 01:29:20,980
So it's kind of cool.

2568
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:23,360
And K-Mac?

2569
01:29:23,700 --> 01:29:24,800
That's what he calls him, yeah.

2570
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:25,540
K-Mac.

2571
01:29:26,340 --> 01:29:28,480
Yeah, K-Mac.

2572
01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:34,960
So McCarthy comes on and he does really

2573
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:35,980
interesting analysis.

2574
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,380
And most of it, the kind of that

2575
01:29:38,380 --> 01:29:40,740
level, it's like, you know, he was the

2576
01:29:40,740 --> 01:29:43,420
head of the Congress for a while.

2577
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:45,920
And it's very outstanding.

2578
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,980
Listen to this talking about the Gavin Newsom,

2579
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:51,900
this is the Gavin clip, this is the

2580
01:29:51,900 --> 01:29:54,960
Gavin Newsom feud with Kamala Harris.

2581
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,820
And how it came about and where Gavin's

2582
01:29:58,820 --> 01:30:00,060
place in the world is.

2583
01:30:00,140 --> 01:30:01,540
And this is very interesting.

2584
01:30:01,620 --> 01:30:03,060
I never thought of it this way.

2585
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,780
Now, Kamala is talking about her bust.

2586
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:07,120
She says there's going to be a big,

2587
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:10,420
beautiful bust of her in Congress one day.

2588
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:12,320
And she's beefing with Newsom.

2589
01:30:12,580 --> 01:30:14,640
Still, what's going on there?

2590
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:16,840
That's a long term argument.

2591
01:30:16,980 --> 01:30:18,620
Remember, they come from the same area.

2592
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:19,940
They come from San Francisco.

2593
01:30:20,470 --> 01:30:23,580
And remember that Newsom wanted to run for

2594
01:30:23,580 --> 01:30:26,300
the Senate and she ran so he didn't

2595
01:30:26,300 --> 01:30:26,740
get to.

2596
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:28,860
Newsom wanted to run for governor.

2597
01:30:29,100 --> 01:30:30,100
Jerry Brown did.

2598
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:31,880
So he had to go to lieutenant governor.

2599
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:33,140
He's been pushed around.

2600
01:30:33,420 --> 01:30:37,400
And when Kamala won the Democrat nomination, you

2601
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:38,620
know the Democrat convention?

2602
01:30:39,100 --> 01:30:42,540
Never let Gavin Newsom, the home state governor

2603
01:30:42,540 --> 01:30:44,100
of the nominee, speak.

2604
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:45,860
Even when it came to the roll call,

2605
01:30:45,940 --> 01:30:47,080
he just had to sit there.

2606
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:49,320
It was very embarrassing for him.

2607
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:51,040
So she wanted him out on a hike.

2608
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:52,060
All right.

2609
01:30:52,100 --> 01:30:53,900
So they hate each other and they're on

2610
01:30:53,900 --> 01:30:54,900
a collision course.

2611
01:30:55,420 --> 01:30:57,480
And Gavin's lost every round so far.

2612
01:30:57,620 --> 01:30:59,860
And let's see if the streak continues.

2613
01:31:00,180 --> 01:31:01,460
I surely don't mind.

2614
01:31:03,060 --> 01:31:07,100
Isn't this part of the four families that

2615
01:31:07,100 --> 01:31:08,460
run the Bay Area?

2616
01:31:09,500 --> 01:31:11,440
It has something to do with it, with

2617
01:31:11,440 --> 01:31:12,560
the state, actually.

2618
01:31:13,480 --> 01:31:17,140
But Kamala was never part of that group.

2619
01:31:17,140 --> 01:31:19,060
She was an outsider, but she was the

2620
01:31:19,060 --> 01:31:22,860
black token, black, Indian, black, whatever you wanted

2621
01:31:22,860 --> 01:31:23,760
her to be.

2622
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:27,280
They had to have her there because they're

2623
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:28,980
starting to look racist otherwise.

2624
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:33,260
So it's going to be fun to watch.

2625
01:31:33,580 --> 01:31:36,200
Newsom's dad was William Newsom?

2626
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:38,180
I don't remember the details.

2627
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:39,860
He wanted to make...

2628
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:41,880
This was all about land.

2629
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:43,440
There's all part of the Gettys are the

2630
01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:45,100
ones behind most of these families.

2631
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:46,040
Yeah, yeah.

2632
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:48,040
And they had all the money.

2633
01:31:48,180 --> 01:31:50,740
But it's Newsom, Brown, Pelosi and Feinstein.

2634
01:31:51,460 --> 01:31:53,400
Those are the big families.

2635
01:31:54,380 --> 01:31:56,520
Yeah, all run by the Gettys.

2636
01:31:56,740 --> 01:31:58,000
Yeah, beautiful.

2637
01:31:58,580 --> 01:31:59,960
We don't have to do anything.

2638
01:32:00,620 --> 01:32:02,120
So I was walking the dog.

2639
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,660
I was walking the dog and I'm listening

2640
01:32:04,660 --> 01:32:06,980
to the president speak in Pennsylvania.

2641
01:32:07,420 --> 01:32:09,180
And I'm listening because...

2642
01:32:09,180 --> 01:32:10,040
Some good material.

2643
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:11,200
Some great material.

2644
01:32:11,340 --> 01:32:13,340
The oil baron texts me.

2645
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:14,940
He says, he's wrong.

2646
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:21,500
There are diminishing returns on oil drilling in

2647
01:32:21,500 --> 01:32:22,360
the United States.

2648
01:32:22,500 --> 01:32:25,020
And he's in the Permian Basin, but he's

2649
01:32:25,020 --> 01:32:25,920
in other places too.

2650
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:31,020
And he says right now, we are pumping

2651
01:32:31,020 --> 01:32:32,380
oil at a loss.

2652
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:36,820
And so he's calling people out the best

2653
01:32:36,820 --> 01:32:38,920
oil man ever and this and that.

2654
01:32:39,100 --> 01:32:40,980
And Trump even says, well, we got to

2655
01:32:40,980 --> 01:32:43,760
get the price of energy down, energy price

2656
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:44,220
down.

2657
01:32:44,860 --> 01:32:46,280
But not too fast.

2658
01:32:46,460 --> 01:32:47,260
Not too fast.

2659
01:32:47,380 --> 01:32:49,160
Yeah, because it went very fast.

2660
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:51,560
And these guys need to pump, according to

2661
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:54,160
the oil baron, it's $75 a barrel.

2662
01:32:54,300 --> 01:32:56,080
Oh, that's way too high.

2663
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:57,400
But that's what it is.

2664
01:32:57,440 --> 01:32:59,760
And it's mainly, it's still regulations.

2665
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,380
The CapEx, they can't write off stuff.

2666
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:04,960
Oh, that is only seven years.

2667
01:33:05,020 --> 01:33:07,320
They can't do, you know, 14 or 15,

2668
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:09,080
even though this stuff lasts for 20.

2669
01:33:09,540 --> 01:33:11,460
So there's a whole bunch of reasons why

2670
01:33:11,460 --> 01:33:13,020
it's still very high.

2671
01:33:13,020 --> 01:33:15,700
And so he's kind of complaining and moaning

2672
01:33:15,700 --> 01:33:16,200
at me.

2673
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:18,040
Yeah, I would be too if I was

2674
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:19,780
losing $10 a barrel or more.

2675
01:33:19,900 --> 01:33:22,240
Now, I think the price dropped to $56

2676
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:23,100
the other day.

2677
01:33:23,180 --> 01:33:24,080
You know, I was going to hit him

2678
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:25,940
up for use of the jet to, you

2679
01:33:25,940 --> 01:33:26,900
know, to go to California.

2680
01:33:26,900 --> 01:33:28,440
But I'm afraid now he's going to be

2681
01:33:28,440 --> 01:33:30,840
like, man, I mean, I've got no money.

2682
01:33:30,900 --> 01:33:31,320
I'm broke.

2683
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:33,000
They got a plane.

2684
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:34,480
The company has a plane.

2685
01:33:34,900 --> 01:33:37,020
Hey, I told you, I've got, it's better

2686
01:33:37,020 --> 01:33:38,380
to have a friend with a plane than

2687
01:33:38,380 --> 01:33:39,320
it is to own your own.

2688
01:33:39,340 --> 01:33:40,100
I can tell you that.

2689
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:41,780
Or helicopter.

2690
01:33:42,380 --> 01:33:44,640
And so Phoebe's doing her business.

2691
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:47,080
And I hear the president and I laugh

2692
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:47,480
so hard.

2693
01:33:47,580 --> 01:33:49,020
The dog stopped pooping.

2694
01:33:49,440 --> 01:33:50,260
It was amazing.

2695
01:33:50,420 --> 01:33:51,120
Here's what he said.

2696
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,240
Ilan Omar, whatever the hell her name is,

2697
01:33:54,540 --> 01:33:57,140
with a little shoe, a little turban.

2698
01:33:58,840 --> 01:33:59,880
Come on, man.

2699
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:01,380
That's genius.

2700
01:34:01,860 --> 01:34:03,020
The little turban.

2701
01:34:04,860 --> 01:34:06,320
Ah, it was great.

2702
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:06,700
I love her.

2703
01:34:06,980 --> 01:34:08,920
She comes in and does nothing but bitch.

2704
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:10,200
She's always complaining.

2705
01:34:12,740 --> 01:34:16,460
She comes from a country where, I mean,

2706
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,640
it's considered about the worst country in the

2707
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:19,160
world, right?

2708
01:34:19,220 --> 01:34:20,440
They have no military.

2709
01:34:20,660 --> 01:34:21,600
They have no nothing.

2710
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:22,680
They have no parliament.

2711
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:24,460
They don't know what the hell the word

2712
01:34:24,460 --> 01:34:25,260
parliament means.

2713
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:25,980
They have nothing.

2714
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:26,960
They have no police.

2715
01:34:27,740 --> 01:34:29,080
They police themselves.

2716
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:30,580
They kill each other all the time.

2717
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:31,880
I love it.

2718
01:34:31,940 --> 01:34:34,580
She comes to our country and she's always

2719
01:34:34,580 --> 01:34:38,000
complaining about the Constitution allows me to do

2720
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:38,380
this.

2721
01:34:38,980 --> 01:34:39,720
The constant.

2722
01:34:39,820 --> 01:34:41,020
We ought to get her the hell out.

2723
01:34:41,020 --> 01:34:43,660
She married her brother in order to get

2724
01:34:43,660 --> 01:34:43,960
in.

2725
01:34:44,220 --> 01:34:44,420
Right.

2726
01:34:44,620 --> 01:34:45,760
She married her brother.

2727
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,120
He's got the crowd on a roll.

2728
01:34:50,180 --> 01:34:51,540
He's like, I'm not stopping here.

2729
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:56,440
Can you imagine if Donald Trump married his

2730
01:34:56,440 --> 01:34:56,780
sister?

2731
01:34:56,900 --> 01:34:57,280
Beautiful.

2732
01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:59,060
She's a beautiful person.

2733
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,720
I married my sister to get my citizenship.

2734
01:35:03,180 --> 01:35:05,000
Do you think I'd last for about two

2735
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:06,760
hours or would it be something less than

2736
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:07,000
that?

2737
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,840
She married her brother to get in.

2738
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:12,140
Therefore, she's here illegally.

2739
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:13,820
She should get the hell out.

2740
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:14,580
Throw the hell out.

2741
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:16,520
She does nothing but complain.

2742
01:35:17,300 --> 01:35:20,840
She married her brother with a little.

2743
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:22,260
I watched quite a bit of that, but

2744
01:35:22,260 --> 01:35:24,040
I didn't catch that good part, which you

2745
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:24,420
just played.

2746
01:35:25,020 --> 01:35:25,880
The turban was great.

2747
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:29,080
The turban thing is funny, but the media

2748
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:30,600
was playing a lot of the jokes, but

2749
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:30,980
they didn't.

2750
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:34,140
Nobody, including Gutfeld, didn't play that little segment.

2751
01:35:34,260 --> 01:35:35,080
That's a beauty.

2752
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:36,620
I'll give you a clip of the day

2753
01:35:36,620 --> 01:35:37,260
for finding that.

2754
01:35:37,260 --> 01:35:39,140
I laughed so hard about that.

2755
01:35:40,140 --> 01:35:41,340
Clip of the day.

2756
01:35:44,340 --> 01:35:48,020
Yeah, he was doing gags and jokes and,

2757
01:35:48,100 --> 01:35:49,580
you know, trying to get, you know, he

2758
01:35:49,580 --> 01:35:52,720
was doing the weave in a very extreme

2759
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:53,240
way.

2760
01:35:53,660 --> 01:35:55,020
He was out there.

2761
01:35:55,480 --> 01:35:58,840
And then just on the anti-woke, I

2762
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:03,460
guess, anti-trans Maoism tip, Marco Rubio's like,

2763
01:36:03,500 --> 01:36:04,820
I'm stepping up to the plate.

2764
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:06,600
I'm going to do something about it.

2765
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,800
It's not just America's national security strategy that's

2766
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:11,340
changing under Donald Trump.

2767
01:36:11,780 --> 01:36:13,980
It's the typeface used to present it as

2768
01:36:13,980 --> 01:36:14,260
well.

2769
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:16,920
The US Secretary of State Marco Rubio has

2770
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:19,560
ordered diplomats to return to using Times New

2771
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,380
Roman for official communications.

2772
01:36:22,180 --> 01:36:25,140
His predecessor in the Biden administration opted for

2773
01:36:25,140 --> 01:36:28,300
Calibri because apparently its lack of decorative angular

2774
01:36:28,300 --> 01:36:31,020
features made it more accessible for people with

2775
01:36:31,020 --> 01:36:31,580
disabilities.

2776
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:34,300
And it was a Microsoft Office default setting.

2777
01:36:34,300 --> 01:36:37,840
Mr. Rubio called it a wasteful diversity move.

2778
01:36:39,060 --> 01:36:41,660
What in the world is going on with

2779
01:36:41,660 --> 01:36:42,020
this?

2780
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:45,260
Yeah, I have some thoughts on this.

2781
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:46,380
I thought you would.

2782
01:36:46,500 --> 01:36:47,820
I think my clip is the same as

2783
01:36:47,820 --> 01:36:48,280
your clip.

2784
01:36:48,380 --> 01:36:50,980
You know, actually, you know a lot about.

2785
01:36:52,540 --> 01:36:52,980
Fonts.

2786
01:36:53,100 --> 01:36:54,260
You know a lot about fonts.

2787
01:36:54,460 --> 01:36:54,780
Typeset.

2788
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:56,420
Yeah, it should be a typesetting.

2789
01:36:56,500 --> 01:36:56,640
Yes.

2790
01:36:56,740 --> 01:36:58,660
Well, let me just play 30 seconds of

2791
01:36:58,660 --> 01:37:00,580
Rubio here as he's talking about it.

2792
01:37:00,580 --> 01:37:03,880
Now, it's not just America's national security strategy

2793
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:04,540
that's changing.

2794
01:37:04,580 --> 01:37:05,540
Wait, that's not the one.

2795
01:37:05,820 --> 01:37:06,040
It's.

2796
01:37:08,180 --> 01:37:09,080
Hold on a second.

2797
01:37:09,340 --> 01:37:10,320
I thought I had it here.

2798
01:37:12,980 --> 01:37:13,420
Crap.

2799
01:37:13,620 --> 01:37:15,020
I was sure I had Rubio.

2800
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:16,200
Anyway, I don't.

2801
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,660
But your thoughts are appreciated.

2802
01:37:19,500 --> 01:37:21,180
Well, they make a big point that they

2803
01:37:21,180 --> 01:37:26,260
was Simplex Calibri, which is also a name

2804
01:37:26,260 --> 01:37:27,100
of a shotgun.

2805
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:29,660
Well, let's start with the basics.

2806
01:37:29,660 --> 01:37:32,040
Is Calibri, Calibre, whatever.

2807
01:37:32,180 --> 01:37:34,580
Is it indeed easier to read on screens?

2808
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:38,060
This is where it becomes interesting.

2809
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:40,560
I personally.

2810
01:37:41,700 --> 01:37:43,660
There's a contradiction here.

2811
01:37:44,420 --> 01:37:46,460
Calibri was, according to the designer.

2812
01:37:46,580 --> 01:37:48,340
And maybe the designer even talks in this

2813
01:37:48,340 --> 01:37:49,160
clip that I have.

2814
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:50,900
Oh, I have a designer clip too.

2815
01:37:51,100 --> 01:37:52,580
But you're on deck.

2816
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:52,980
You go.

2817
01:37:53,660 --> 01:37:56,420
Well, play the guy, the designer guy.

2818
01:37:56,420 --> 01:38:00,160
He makes mockery of the change back because

2819
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:03,240
he claims that Calibri was designed as a

2820
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:07,400
font specifically for screens or screen reading, which

2821
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:08,700
I believe is probably true.

2822
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:11,440
Screen reading is a lot different than reading

2823
01:38:11,440 --> 01:38:14,080
on paper because you have to.

2824
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:18,540
It's harder to keep your eyes because the

2825
01:38:18,540 --> 01:38:20,020
distance is different.

2826
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:22,160
But the light in your eye and the

2827
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:23,920
whole thing, it's hard to read on a

2828
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:24,400
screen.

2829
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:26,720
If it's like it's a giant paragraph, you

2830
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:28,060
get lost going back and forth.

2831
01:38:28,140 --> 01:38:29,540
That's why they have to have short paragraphs

2832
01:38:29,540 --> 01:38:30,660
on the screens.

2833
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:36,940
But the Calibre is a sans serif face.

2834
01:38:37,020 --> 01:38:38,420
That means there's no serifs.

2835
01:38:38,860 --> 01:38:40,740
The little lines at the bottom, little footers.

2836
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:43,120
There's little the bottom of a table with

2837
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:44,140
a footer on it.

2838
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:48,500
It's a sans serif face, and it's generally

2839
01:38:48,500 --> 01:38:53,540
believed that serif faces are always easier to

2840
01:38:53,540 --> 01:38:56,640
read than sans serif faces because there's a

2841
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:59,220
natural line that forms on the bottom of

2842
01:38:59,220 --> 01:39:01,580
each line because of the serifs.

2843
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:03,560
They form a line that makes it easier

2844
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:04,600
for the eye to follow.

2845
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:07,620
And the font that was designed.

2846
01:39:08,500 --> 01:39:09,800
But if you start to, if you look

2847
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:11,500
at Calibre, it's very easy to read.

2848
01:39:12,380 --> 01:39:15,100
Times New Roman is not so much.

2849
01:39:15,100 --> 01:39:21,340
If Rubio was on the ball, he would

2850
01:39:21,340 --> 01:39:26,640
have mandated for press releases that were put

2851
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:28,500
on the screen, which is what I think

2852
01:39:28,500 --> 01:39:29,620
they're talking about mostly.

2853
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:33,280
They would have picked Georgia, which is the

2854
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:34,560
font I use all the time.

2855
01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:38,100
Georgia was also designed to be read on

2856
01:39:38,100 --> 01:39:40,580
a screen, and it's serifed.

2857
01:39:40,580 --> 01:39:43,680
So Georgia, which is a Microsoft font, it

2858
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:47,120
was developed up there, is a stunning font

2859
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:48,420
for reading on screens.

2860
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:50,960
And it's just far superior to Times New

2861
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,140
Roman and Calibre.

2862
01:39:53,420 --> 01:39:55,800
And so I think he was right in

2863
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:57,260
this idea of getting rid of one and

2864
01:39:57,260 --> 01:39:58,960
going back to serif faces, but he picked

2865
01:39:58,960 --> 01:39:59,560
the wrong one.

2866
01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:02,940
Is anyone still listening to the show?

2867
01:40:05,500 --> 01:40:06,460
Probably not.

2868
01:40:06,620 --> 01:40:08,420
Let me play the designer here.

2869
01:40:08,420 --> 01:40:10,640
Well, Lukas de Groot is the Danish type

2870
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:12,340
designer who came up with Calibre.

2871
01:40:12,660 --> 01:40:13,880
And he joins us now.

2872
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,320
Lukas, what did you make of it when

2873
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:17,180
you heard this news?

2874
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:20,860
It's a hilarious and sad news item.

2875
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:22,640
I really don't understand it.

2876
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,260
Do you think Calibre is woke in any

2877
01:40:25,260 --> 01:40:25,460
way?

2878
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:26,980
No.

2879
01:40:27,260 --> 01:40:30,380
I mean, it was designed to facilitate reading

2880
01:40:30,380 --> 01:40:31,640
on modern computer screens.

2881
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:36,020
And it was chosen to replace Times New

2882
01:40:36,020 --> 01:40:38,520
Roman, the typeface that Rubio wants to go

2883
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:40,960
back to now, in 2007.

2884
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,320
And Calibre was designed to work well in

2885
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:46,940
tiny sizes and on coarse office screens, which

2886
01:40:46,940 --> 01:40:48,680
it still does, much better than Times New

2887
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:48,920
Roman.

2888
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:50,460
So I don't understand it.

2889
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:53,560
Yes, because one of the quotes from Marco

2890
01:40:53,560 --> 01:41:01,640
Rubio's instruction to diplomats around the world was

2891
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:04,940
to restore decorum to the department's written products.

2892
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:07,560
Do you think your typeface lacks decorum?

2893
01:41:08,660 --> 01:41:10,880
Well, of course, maybe the serifs in Times

2894
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:12,600
New Roman, how the little feet on the

2895
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:14,520
stems can be seen as decorum.

2896
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:16,620
Yeah, just briefly and finally, are you confident

2897
01:41:16,620 --> 01:41:18,720
that Calibre will survive this outrage?

2898
01:41:20,500 --> 01:41:21,380
Absolutely, yeah.

2899
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:24,680
Lukas de Groot, it's lovely to talk to

2900
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:24,780
you.

2901
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:28,620
Lukas is the man who created Calibre, this

2902
01:41:28,620 --> 01:41:30,960
font that is used so widely, but alas,

2903
01:41:31,020 --> 01:41:33,540
no longer in the U.S. State Department.

2904
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:34,820
Meh.

2905
01:41:35,780 --> 01:41:38,020
Is it, because all I heard was it's

2906
01:41:38,020 --> 01:41:41,500
the default on Microsoft Office products.

2907
01:41:41,700 --> 01:41:43,460
What is the default, Calibre?

2908
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:44,700
No, Times.

2909
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:47,200
Isn't Times the default?

2910
01:41:47,540 --> 01:41:49,060
There's about five or six fonts.

2911
01:41:49,140 --> 01:41:50,460
I don't know that there's a default.

2912
01:41:53,140 --> 01:41:54,040
I don't know.

2913
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:56,100
I have no idea if that is default.

2914
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:57,300
I mean, it's on there.

2915
01:41:57,300 --> 01:41:58,700
It's provided.

2916
01:41:58,940 --> 01:42:00,120
It's one of the many fonts that you

2917
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:01,900
get when you get Office.

2918
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:04,180
It's on the list.

2919
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:04,640
I don't know.

2920
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:05,320
It's a default.

2921
01:42:05,440 --> 01:42:06,840
I always thought Arial was.

2922
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:08,420
Let me see what the default is in

2923
01:42:08,420 --> 01:42:08,760
mine.

2924
01:42:09,740 --> 01:42:10,740
Let me see.

2925
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:15,920
It's such a complicated program.

2926
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:19,540
Aptos is my default.

2927
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:20,340
Aptos?

2928
01:42:21,860 --> 01:42:23,380
Why do I have Aptos?

2929
01:42:24,180 --> 01:42:26,320
This whole story is interesting.

2930
01:42:26,860 --> 01:42:28,780
All these companies do this.

2931
01:42:28,900 --> 01:42:29,540
They keep changing.

2932
01:42:29,660 --> 01:42:31,960
This is our official font for our company.

2933
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:34,300
Microsoft sent out a thing.

2934
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:35,840
They use Berkelium or something.

2935
01:42:35,940 --> 01:42:36,260
Berkeley?

2936
01:42:36,740 --> 01:42:37,480
Crazy font.

2937
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:37,760
Yeah.

2938
01:42:37,940 --> 01:42:39,600
They don't even have it as a default.

2939
01:42:39,700 --> 01:42:40,400
It's hard to find.

2940
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:41,700
It's a beautiful font.

2941
01:42:41,820 --> 01:42:44,120
Basically, we've wasted too much time on this.

2942
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:46,520
Yeah, already, especially my analysis.

2943
01:42:46,740 --> 01:42:48,140
I don't think anybody cares.

2944
01:42:48,260 --> 01:42:49,500
I could go on and on because I

2945
01:42:49,500 --> 01:42:51,460
think there's a psychology to these fonts.

2946
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:52,720
That's the thing that's overlooked.

2947
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:56,320
When you look at something in different fonts,

2948
01:42:56,500 --> 01:42:59,460
media is the message kind of thing.

2949
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:01,960
It's a McLuhan-esque kind of experience.

2950
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:05,300
Things in different fonts have a different impact

2951
01:43:05,300 --> 01:43:05,700
on you.

2952
01:43:05,740 --> 01:43:07,060
There's no question about that.

2953
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:10,100
Then we had the farmer bailout.

2954
01:43:10,620 --> 01:43:14,320
I have two NPR clips with some explanations

2955
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:14,760
here.

2956
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:15,260
This is all.

2957
01:43:15,420 --> 01:43:18,440
And I think I called it before Thanksgiving

2958
01:43:18,440 --> 01:43:23,500
when the reporter said, Walmart, they say it's

2959
01:43:23,500 --> 01:43:27,640
cheaper, the turkey dinner, but they don't have...

2960
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:29,200
It was Stephanie Rule, I think it was.

2961
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:34,580
They don't have cornbread or whatever in there,

2962
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:35,900
so there's less ingredients.

2963
01:43:36,480 --> 01:43:38,480
And that's when we first heard the big

2964
01:43:38,480 --> 01:43:39,140
A word.

2965
01:43:39,780 --> 01:43:42,260
And I think we identified it quickly as

2966
01:43:42,260 --> 01:43:43,260
affordability.

2967
01:43:43,260 --> 01:43:44,300
That was the word.

2968
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:46,320
And that is now the word that the

2969
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:48,940
president, who, of course, made a big mistake

2970
01:43:48,940 --> 01:43:51,860
by saying, I'm going to bring prices down.

2971
01:43:51,980 --> 01:43:53,620
It's going to be so cheap.

2972
01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,140
I don't understand why the news media doesn't

2973
01:43:59,140 --> 01:43:59,980
emphasize this.

2974
01:44:00,780 --> 01:44:02,980
I already know why, because this doesn't help

2975
01:44:02,980 --> 01:44:03,320
Trump.

2976
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:06,800
But which is the fact that inflation is

2977
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:07,660
cumulative.

2978
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:10,000
It is not something you can't...

2979
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:13,160
When you have 10%, 9%, 10%, 9%, 10

2980
01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:15,960
% up during the Biden administration, jacked everything

2981
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:18,420
up probably 20% overall, maybe more.

2982
01:44:18,420 --> 01:44:21,940
And then it keeps going up 2%, even

2983
01:44:21,940 --> 01:44:23,240
2% or 1%.

2984
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:24,400
It's still going up.

2985
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:25,880
It is never going to go down.

2986
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:27,780
It doesn't go down unless you have deflation.

2987
01:44:28,300 --> 01:44:30,380
And you can't have deflation because that causes

2988
01:44:30,380 --> 01:44:31,060
a depression.

2989
01:44:31,300 --> 01:44:31,560
Yes.

2990
01:44:32,480 --> 01:44:35,120
In fact, it's even funnier now because when

2991
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:37,200
he says energy prices, I brought him down.

2992
01:44:37,340 --> 01:44:38,720
Yeah, gas is definitely cheaper.

2993
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:42,160
But the news media goes, well, everyone's electricity

2994
01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:45,100
bill is higher, which has nothing to do

2995
01:44:45,100 --> 01:44:48,600
with anything other than data centers everywhere.

2996
01:44:49,100 --> 01:44:51,600
So anyway, here's a little quickie from NPR

2997
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:52,960
on the farmer bailout.

2998
01:44:53,060 --> 01:44:56,120
President Trump has announced a $12 billion bailout

2999
01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:58,780
for farmers to offset the impact of his

3000
01:44:58,780 --> 01:44:59,680
tariff policies.

3001
01:45:00,220 --> 01:45:02,600
How does this bailout announcement fit into the

3002
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:05,100
bigger picture of Trump's economic policies?

3003
01:45:05,460 --> 01:45:07,260
Well, to start with, you just have a

3004
01:45:07,260 --> 01:45:10,540
lot of voters who really are feeling economic

3005
01:45:10,540 --> 01:45:12,580
pain for a variety of reasons right now.

3006
01:45:12,580 --> 01:45:14,680
This is something that polls, including our own

3007
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:17,740
polling at NPR, keep showing us that voters

3008
01:45:17,740 --> 01:45:20,380
are talking about, especially the big A word,

3009
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:22,960
affordability, as a big problem.

3010
01:45:23,300 --> 01:45:28,920
Now, this bailout announcement isn't exactly about affordability,

3011
01:45:28,980 --> 01:45:31,680
but it is about helping a group of

3012
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:33,880
people who have been hurt by Trump's tariff

3013
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:36,140
policies to at least stay afloat.

3014
01:45:36,740 --> 01:45:36,840
Right.

3015
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:37,940
So it's $12 billion.

3016
01:45:38,980 --> 01:45:40,720
NPR has some of the details.

3017
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:42,240
Danielle, can we just talk about the nuts

3018
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:42,540
and bolts?

3019
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:44,320
I mean, how does this program work?

3020
01:45:44,860 --> 01:45:47,520
I mean, really broadly speaking, it's $12 billion

3021
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:50,660
that the Ag Department has set aside as

3022
01:45:50,660 --> 01:45:52,320
direct payments to farmers.

3023
01:45:52,500 --> 01:45:54,780
So another farm support program, there are a

3024
01:45:54,780 --> 01:45:55,280
few of them.

3025
01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:58,560
Of that $12 billion, $11 billion, so the

3026
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:01,040
overwhelming majority of it, is for row crop

3027
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:01,400
farmers.

3028
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:04,900
So that's farmers that grow grains like seed

3029
01:46:04,900 --> 01:46:07,500
corn, wheat, soybeans, cotton.

3030
01:46:07,500 --> 01:46:11,420
So not things like, you know, spinach, tomatoes,

3031
01:46:11,700 --> 01:46:12,800
things you see in the produce aisle.

3032
01:46:12,980 --> 01:46:15,160
$1 billion has been set aside for vegetable

3033
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:16,460
farmers should they need it.

3034
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:19,360
But that $11 billion for row crop farmers,

3035
01:46:19,700 --> 01:46:22,040
what we know right now is that it's

3036
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:24,560
only for farms making up to just over

3037
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:26,820
$900,000 per year.

3038
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:29,820
That will exclude the very biggest farms, but

3039
01:46:29,820 --> 01:46:31,700
will include all the small family farms that

3040
01:46:31,700 --> 01:46:34,480
we hear about in politics all of the

3041
01:46:34,480 --> 01:46:34,880
time.

3042
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:36,440
And it will be capped at just over

3043
01:46:36,440 --> 01:46:39,160
$150,000 per farm.

3044
01:46:39,660 --> 01:46:42,680
And the amount will be adjusted based on

3045
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:43,900
the size of the farm.

3046
01:46:44,420 --> 01:46:46,940
So depending on the farmer, that may or

3047
01:46:46,940 --> 01:46:50,780
may not cover their losses based on tariffs

3048
01:46:50,780 --> 01:46:52,540
and rising input costs this year.

3049
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:53,000
Yeah, okay.

3050
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:55,080
So there's NPR saying, it's no good.

3051
01:46:56,140 --> 01:46:59,380
But I really enjoyed watching.

3052
01:46:59,540 --> 01:47:03,440
I love the cabinet meetings because it's the

3053
01:47:03,440 --> 01:47:04,460
apprentice, you know.

3054
01:47:04,460 --> 01:47:06,260
And he'll even say, if you don't do

3055
01:47:06,260 --> 01:47:08,280
that right, Scott, I'm going to fire you.

3056
01:47:08,740 --> 01:47:10,620
You know, it's fantastic.

3057
01:47:10,940 --> 01:47:11,920
It's actually made.

3058
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:13,800
Yeah, it's definitely the apprentice.

3059
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:15,580
It's the apprentice vibe.

3060
01:47:15,980 --> 01:47:18,660
And people should watch that because it really

3061
01:47:18,660 --> 01:47:19,480
is entertaining.

3062
01:47:19,580 --> 01:47:22,400
But you also see a president who is

3063
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,960
running the business of America, which is business.

3064
01:47:25,740 --> 01:47:27,460
And so I'm watching these farmers.

3065
01:47:27,460 --> 01:47:29,460
And to the left of the president, for

3066
01:47:29,460 --> 01:47:31,500
the viewers right, it was kind of a

3067
01:47:31,500 --> 01:47:32,300
good looking woman.

3068
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:33,560
Her last name was Kennedy.

3069
01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:34,680
And so I was like, well, what she

3070
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:35,380
got to say.

3071
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,380
She's not related to the Kennedys in any

3072
01:47:38,380 --> 01:47:38,540
way.

3073
01:47:38,620 --> 01:47:39,820
She's from down South.

3074
01:47:39,900 --> 01:47:41,840
She's a rice farmer, cute lady.

3075
01:47:42,480 --> 01:47:44,980
And I kind of like this a lot

3076
01:47:44,980 --> 01:47:46,500
where the president's like, oh, you got a

3077
01:47:46,500 --> 01:47:46,760
problem.

3078
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:47,400
I'm going to fix it.

3079
01:47:47,480 --> 01:47:49,460
But I wish I was here under better

3080
01:47:49,460 --> 01:47:50,420
terms.

3081
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:52,580
I'll tell you, I think the rice industry

3082
01:47:52,580 --> 01:47:55,040
thanks you sincerely for what you have done

3083
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:57,200
for the California rice market and to Japan.

3084
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:00,780
It has been monumental for our industry.

3085
01:48:01,330 --> 01:48:03,720
But us in the South are really struggling.

3086
01:48:04,020 --> 01:48:05,480
I mean, this is not just a crisis.

3087
01:48:05,740 --> 01:48:09,320
I would say it's almost a market dynamics

3088
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:14,820
that really are true and an anti-competitive

3089
01:48:14,820 --> 01:48:15,300
nature.

3090
01:48:15,480 --> 01:48:15,680
Right.

3091
01:48:15,780 --> 01:48:18,300
So it follows what you sent out this

3092
01:48:18,300 --> 01:48:18,660
weekend.

3093
01:48:19,220 --> 01:48:21,940
And we do believe that countries are dumping

3094
01:48:21,940 --> 01:48:23,760
rice into this country today.

3095
01:48:23,940 --> 01:48:26,420
We've never seen imports this great.

3096
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:27,300
Which countries?

3097
01:48:28,780 --> 01:48:32,000
India, Thailand, even China into Puerto Rico.

3098
01:48:32,220 --> 01:48:33,340
Puerto Rico used to be one of the

3099
01:48:33,340 --> 01:48:35,520
largest markets for U.S. rice.

3100
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:37,460
We haven't shipped rice into Puerto Rico in

3101
01:48:37,460 --> 01:48:37,880
years.

3102
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:41,520
So this has been happening for years.

3103
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:43,220
This didn't start during your administration.

3104
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:47,100
But unfortunately, we're seeing it in a much

3105
01:48:47,100 --> 01:48:47,940
bigger way now.

3106
01:48:48,540 --> 01:48:51,700
The tariffs are working, but we need to

3107
01:48:51,700 --> 01:48:53,640
double down because- You want more.

3108
01:48:53,820 --> 01:48:55,500
I mean- Well, they're cheating, right?

3109
01:48:55,660 --> 01:48:59,120
They're, you know, not- Scott, India.

3110
01:48:59,300 --> 01:49:00,160
Tell me about India.

3111
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:02,200
Why is India allowed to do that?

3112
01:49:02,260 --> 01:49:03,200
They have to pay tariffs.

3113
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:05,200
Do they have an exemption on rice?

3114
01:49:05,580 --> 01:49:06,200
No, sir.

3115
01:49:06,260 --> 01:49:07,800
We're still working on their trade deal.

3116
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:09,160
Yeah, but they shouldn't be dumping.

3117
01:49:09,340 --> 01:49:10,080
I mean, I heard that.

3118
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:11,140
I heard that from others.

3119
01:49:11,220 --> 01:49:11,960
So I love this.

3120
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:13,380
Right away, he goes to Besant.

3121
01:49:13,480 --> 01:49:14,960
He says, Scott, what's up with India?

3122
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:17,580
And he's clearly caught flat-footed.

3123
01:49:17,700 --> 01:49:19,940
Uh, we're still working on the trade deal,

3124
01:49:20,060 --> 01:49:20,700
sir, sir.

3125
01:49:21,260 --> 01:49:22,800
Hey, hey, get that done.

3126
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:23,960
Stop these guys from dumping.

3127
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:24,680
You can't do that.

3128
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:27,040
There's a WTO case against India.

3129
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:29,320
Give me the countries, if you could.

3130
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:29,880
Go ahead.

3131
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:30,740
India.

3132
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:31,360
Who else?

3133
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:32,720
So India- Mark it down.

3134
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:33,140
What'd you say?

3135
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:38,720
India, Thailand, China into Puerto Rico.

3136
01:49:38,940 --> 01:49:41,380
Not into the, you know, continental U.S.

3137
01:49:41,380 --> 01:49:42,400
but into Puerto Rico.

3138
01:49:43,260 --> 01:49:45,220
Those are the main culprits.

3139
01:49:45,260 --> 01:49:46,640
So Puerto Rico used to do a lot

3140
01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:48,240
of business and now- 100%.

3141
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:50,200
Puerto Rico was U.S.-based. Absolutely.

3142
01:49:50,580 --> 01:49:50,920
All right.

3143
01:49:51,440 --> 01:49:52,000
And- Yes.

3144
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:52,620
You should have settled.

3145
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:55,460
It's all those slanty-eyed countries taking advantage

3146
01:49:55,460 --> 01:49:55,940
of us.

3147
01:49:56,020 --> 01:49:56,800
Scott, get on it.

3148
01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:57,880
Otherwise, you're fired.

3149
01:49:58,880 --> 01:49:59,200
Yeah.

3150
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:00,840
Yeah, it felt good to see that.

3151
01:50:00,980 --> 01:50:02,680
I'm farmer-adjacent, so I kind of like

3152
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:02,980
that.

3153
01:50:03,180 --> 01:50:05,880
Yeah, but there's probably different kinds of rice.

3154
01:50:06,440 --> 01:50:07,380
Well, here we go.

3155
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:08,140
Here we go.

3156
01:50:08,380 --> 01:50:09,720
John, if we're at some rice moment-

3157
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:10,260
I'm not going to do it because I

3158
01:50:10,260 --> 01:50:13,100
already bored people with my thoughts on swans.

3159
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:16,500
Do you know how to cook basmati rice,

3160
01:50:16,580 --> 01:50:16,860
people?

3161
01:50:17,260 --> 01:50:19,000
If it's all in the- You got

3162
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:19,540
to wash it.

3163
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:21,220
You got to wash it three, four times.

3164
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:23,660
And only then, only then will your basmati

3165
01:50:23,660 --> 01:50:24,660
rice be perfect.

3166
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:26,800
Did I summarize it well?

3167
01:50:27,500 --> 01:50:31,380
Well, that's in a ridicule-like manner, maybe.

3168
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:34,300
But I would say that, you know, Texas

3169
01:50:34,300 --> 01:50:36,040
long grain rice, which is what we cook

3170
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:37,680
mostly in the United States, is not something

3171
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:39,120
they grow in India.

3172
01:50:40,060 --> 01:50:44,100
And I'm not convinced of this whining because

3173
01:50:44,100 --> 01:50:47,040
the Indian rice in particular, let them jack

3174
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:48,880
it up because the Pakistani rice will be

3175
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:50,720
cheaper, which is superior- Oh, it's much

3176
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:50,820
better.

3177
01:50:50,820 --> 01:50:53,140
I might mention to Indian rice every time.

3178
01:50:53,140 --> 01:50:54,720
Paki rice is the best.

3179
01:50:55,440 --> 01:50:56,260
It's cleaner.

3180
01:50:57,400 --> 01:50:58,960
Then there was a whole thing that went

3181
01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:01,100
on about fertilizer, which was very interesting.

3182
01:51:01,340 --> 01:51:02,960
And of course, a report came out about

3183
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:03,260
that.

3184
01:51:03,460 --> 01:51:05,840
A new U.S. tariff threat, this time

3185
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:07,700
focusing on Canadian fertilizer.

3186
01:51:08,260 --> 01:51:09,560
A lot of it does come in from

3187
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:09,920
Canada.

3188
01:51:10,420 --> 01:51:12,960
And so we'll end up putting very severe

3189
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:17,020
tariffs on that if we have to, because

3190
01:51:17,020 --> 01:51:18,680
that's the way you want to bolster here.

3191
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:20,120
And we can do it here.

3192
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:23,140
While Trump provided no specifics on what that

3193
01:51:23,140 --> 01:51:26,100
severe tariff could look like, it would seriously

3194
01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:27,500
impact U.S. farmers.

3195
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:30,660
Currently, over 95% of potash, a key

3196
01:51:30,660 --> 01:51:34,000
ingredient in industrial fertilizer, is imported into the

3197
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:36,540
U.S. 90% of that comes from

3198
01:51:36,540 --> 01:51:36,920
Canada.

3199
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:39,200
And they start charging and sending in, you

3200
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:41,640
know, very high prices from other countries, whether

3201
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:43,020
it's Canada or somebody else.

3202
01:51:43,420 --> 01:51:44,680
We're not going to let that happen.

3203
01:51:44,940 --> 01:51:47,180
The latest threat comes days after the president

3204
01:51:47,180 --> 01:51:52,850
spoke and danced with Prime Minister Mark Carney

3205
01:51:52,850 --> 01:51:54,570
at the World Cup draw in Washington.

3206
01:51:54,790 --> 01:51:56,950
But that jovial mood hasn't paid off.

3207
01:51:57,250 --> 01:52:00,310
Outside of potential potash tariffs, Trump doesn't seem

3208
01:52:00,310 --> 01:52:03,070
interested in restarting trade talks with Canada that

3209
01:52:03,070 --> 01:52:04,690
he himself called off in October.

3210
01:52:04,890 --> 01:52:06,910
But Trump seemingly recognized that the U.S.

3211
01:52:06,970 --> 01:52:09,750
could not make enough fertilizer domestically in November

3212
01:52:09,750 --> 01:52:12,770
when he previously exempted Canadian potash from all

3213
01:52:12,770 --> 01:52:15,710
U.S. duties with China, Russia and Belarus

3214
01:52:15,710 --> 01:52:18,430
the only other major potash producers in the

3215
01:52:18,430 --> 01:52:18,710
world.

3216
01:52:18,710 --> 01:52:22,330
Canada's agriculture sector is already being hammered by

3217
01:52:22,330 --> 01:52:25,290
China with 100% duty on canola and

3218
01:52:25,290 --> 01:52:27,610
a 25% levy on pork, Donna.

3219
01:52:27,830 --> 01:52:30,410
But a fertilizer tariff would likely be different

3220
01:52:30,410 --> 01:52:33,310
since the Americans are so reliant on buying

3221
01:52:33,310 --> 01:52:34,410
Canadian potash.

3222
01:52:34,610 --> 01:52:37,450
So this is a, I feel, another topic

3223
01:52:37,450 --> 01:52:39,730
that you will know a lot about, about

3224
01:52:39,730 --> 01:52:40,350
fertilizer.

3225
01:52:40,350 --> 01:52:41,990
For some reason, I just feel like John's

3226
01:52:41,990 --> 01:52:43,210
going to know about potash.

3227
01:52:43,250 --> 01:52:44,330
He's going to know about fertilizer.

3228
01:52:44,330 --> 01:52:48,350
I thought fertilizer was ammonium nitrate and some

3229
01:52:48,350 --> 01:52:48,710
poop.

3230
01:52:49,350 --> 01:52:51,190
I mean, now it's potash, which is you,

3231
01:52:51,210 --> 01:52:52,250
you mine that.

3232
01:52:52,370 --> 01:52:53,870
And, you know, it's like a mineral.

3233
01:52:55,350 --> 01:52:57,030
Yeah, it's just kind of come.

3234
01:52:57,090 --> 01:52:58,590
It's like, yeah, actually you do.

3235
01:52:58,650 --> 01:52:59,610
You might like a mineral.

3236
01:52:59,750 --> 01:53:02,710
So it's, it's a potassium source that I

3237
01:53:02,710 --> 01:53:05,890
guess is needed for a lot of, a

3238
01:53:05,890 --> 01:53:07,050
lot of crops.

3239
01:53:07,370 --> 01:53:09,110
We really don't have, I mean, we, we,

3240
01:53:09,230 --> 01:53:11,130
if we started to mine, I guess we

3241
01:53:11,130 --> 01:53:12,950
could, could make, can't just turn D.C.

3242
01:53:12,950 --> 01:53:15,010
upside down and use all that bull crap.

3243
01:53:15,570 --> 01:53:17,010
Wouldn't that work?

3244
01:53:18,110 --> 01:53:19,690
Yeah, no.

3245
01:53:20,510 --> 01:53:24,510
Today, potash is a key component in balanced

3246
01:53:24,510 --> 01:53:28,410
fertilizers alongside nitrogen and phosphorus, supporting overall plant

3247
01:53:28,410 --> 01:53:28,810
health.

3248
01:53:29,350 --> 01:53:30,650
It's very important.

3249
01:53:31,870 --> 01:53:32,030
Yeah.

3250
01:53:32,430 --> 01:53:38,250
Well, the final thing I have on affordability,

3251
01:53:39,070 --> 01:53:42,450
uh, maybe people should, uh, go to the

3252
01:53:42,450 --> 01:53:44,950
grocery store themselves and stop having it dropped

3253
01:53:44,950 --> 01:53:46,090
off by Instacart.

3254
01:53:46,090 --> 01:53:46,570
There you go.

3255
01:53:46,710 --> 01:53:46,910
Yeah.

3256
01:53:46,950 --> 01:53:47,670
Listen to this.

3257
01:53:48,010 --> 01:53:49,650
Turning to business news this morning, you may

3258
01:53:49,650 --> 01:53:51,610
have heard of dynamic pricing.

3259
01:53:51,610 --> 01:53:54,510
Well, now Instacart is accused of using this

3260
01:53:54,510 --> 01:53:58,930
controversial practice to charge consumers wildly inconsistent prices

3261
01:53:58,930 --> 01:54:01,050
on the same products.

3262
01:54:01,230 --> 01:54:03,310
Maribel, we're joining us live from NASDAQ with

3263
01:54:03,310 --> 01:54:05,010
our market watch report to explain.

3264
01:54:05,150 --> 01:54:06,490
And, oh, this is infuriating.

3265
01:54:06,490 --> 01:54:07,670
Oh, Alicia.

3266
01:54:07,810 --> 01:54:07,910
Okay.

3267
01:54:07,910 --> 01:54:08,510
Let's get to it.

3268
01:54:08,610 --> 01:54:09,690
Food delivery service.

3269
01:54:09,970 --> 01:54:12,550
Instacart is being accused of charging different prices

3270
01:54:12,550 --> 01:54:14,970
to different customers on the same grocery items

3271
01:54:14,970 --> 01:54:16,730
without them knowing groundwork.

3272
01:54:16,810 --> 01:54:19,550
It's a consumer advocacy group, uh, says Instacart's

3273
01:54:19,550 --> 01:54:22,190
pricing algorithm could lead to shoppers paying an

3274
01:54:22,190 --> 01:54:24,390
extra $1,200 on groceries annually.

3275
01:54:24,390 --> 01:54:26,870
A nearly three quarters of grocery items is

3276
01:54:26,870 --> 01:54:28,530
surveyed were sold at different price points.

3277
01:54:28,770 --> 01:54:31,170
Instacart said the price differences were tests conducted

3278
01:54:31,170 --> 01:54:34,290
by some retailers to learn quote, what matters

3279
01:54:34,290 --> 01:54:35,230
most to consumers.

3280
01:54:35,230 --> 01:54:38,070
It denied using shopper's personal information to feel

3281
01:54:38,070 --> 01:54:39,910
dynamic or customized pricing.

3282
01:54:40,070 --> 01:54:40,510
Yeah.

3283
01:54:40,590 --> 01:54:42,310
Just go get it yourself.

3284
01:54:43,830 --> 01:54:45,310
They're open until 10.

3285
01:54:46,890 --> 01:54:48,490
A lot of places are open all night.

3286
01:54:48,730 --> 01:54:49,110
Yeah.

3287
01:54:51,210 --> 01:54:52,530
That's when they do their restocking.

3288
01:54:52,690 --> 01:54:54,950
Usually these smart stores are starting midnight.

3289
01:54:55,230 --> 01:54:55,590
Yes.

3290
01:54:55,850 --> 01:54:56,050
Yeah.

3291
01:54:56,070 --> 01:54:57,250
I don't understand it either.

3292
01:54:57,350 --> 01:54:58,650
I mean, I don't know if you'd like

3293
01:54:58,650 --> 01:54:59,690
to cook at all.

3294
01:54:59,810 --> 01:55:01,110
If you don't like cooking and you don't

3295
01:55:01,110 --> 01:55:02,770
like shopping, you don't like anything.

3296
01:55:03,090 --> 01:55:03,990
You just abdud.

3297
01:55:04,010 --> 01:55:04,690
You're sitting there.

3298
01:55:04,690 --> 01:55:06,610
Hey, I'm going to have some milk delivered.

3299
01:55:06,710 --> 01:55:07,370
They used to have that.

3300
01:55:07,470 --> 01:55:08,350
You call a milkman.

3301
01:55:08,450 --> 01:55:09,770
They come by with milk and butter.

3302
01:55:10,010 --> 01:55:10,210
Yep.

3303
01:55:10,350 --> 01:55:10,550
Yep.

3304
01:55:10,670 --> 01:55:10,870
Yep.

3305
01:55:11,010 --> 01:55:12,370
We used to, when I was growing up,

3306
01:55:12,450 --> 01:55:14,250
you had to put your empties outside and

3307
01:55:14,250 --> 01:55:16,650
the, you know, Clank glass.

3308
01:55:17,030 --> 01:55:18,810
You'd always wake up at five in the

3309
01:55:18,810 --> 01:55:21,410
morning when the guy's clanking the bottles together.

3310
01:55:21,670 --> 01:55:22,030
Yeah.

3311
01:55:22,090 --> 01:55:22,890
Trying to wake you up.

3312
01:55:22,990 --> 01:55:25,270
When I was a kid, the milkman woke

3313
01:55:25,270 --> 01:55:27,630
me up at five clanking the empties together.

3314
01:55:28,530 --> 01:55:31,510
And then one more, uh, amazing, uh, uh,

3315
01:55:31,730 --> 01:55:34,590
announcement, although I have not actually seen an

3316
01:55:34,590 --> 01:55:37,590
executive order published yet is the, the tiny

3317
01:55:37,590 --> 01:55:40,990
cars we're going to bring tiny cars back.

3318
01:55:41,110 --> 01:55:41,370
Yeah.

3319
01:55:41,370 --> 01:55:44,010
It was actually a really surprising comment that

3320
01:55:44,010 --> 01:55:45,390
Trump made in the middle of his press

3321
01:55:45,390 --> 01:55:48,630
conference, talking about the, uh, freedom means affordable

3322
01:55:48,630 --> 01:55:51,530
cars, uh, executive order that he signed there.

3323
01:55:51,690 --> 01:55:54,050
Um, while there's a lot of things around

3324
01:55:54,050 --> 01:55:56,610
what tiny cars, um, how it could possibly

3325
01:55:56,610 --> 01:55:57,850
be legal in the States.

3326
01:55:57,850 --> 01:56:00,130
The biggest thing is crash ratings.

3327
01:56:00,270 --> 01:56:01,590
Um, that's one of the reasons why we

3328
01:56:01,590 --> 01:56:02,230
don't have them.

3329
01:56:02,230 --> 01:56:04,230
We used to have something called the smart

3330
01:56:04,230 --> 01:56:04,550
car.

3331
01:56:04,650 --> 01:56:07,270
If you remember that really, really tiny, um,

3332
01:56:07,350 --> 01:56:07,730
still around.

3333
01:56:07,950 --> 01:56:09,430
Unfortunately, they didn't really sell here.

3334
01:56:09,550 --> 01:56:10,550
They're low horsepower.

3335
01:56:10,710 --> 01:56:13,350
They're very small and people didn't seem to

3336
01:56:13,350 --> 01:56:16,170
really want them, but, uh, there's a lot

3337
01:56:16,170 --> 01:56:18,250
of interest going on with, Oh, well, actually

3338
01:56:18,250 --> 01:56:20,270
I could use something that's really good on

3339
01:56:20,270 --> 01:56:21,210
fuel economy.

3340
01:56:21,250 --> 01:56:23,430
Something that's really easy to park and small.

3341
01:56:23,570 --> 01:56:25,670
I'm keeping in mind that this is not

3342
01:56:25,670 --> 01:56:26,770
a highway vehicle.

3343
01:56:26,830 --> 01:56:28,010
A lot of these have under a hundred

3344
01:56:28,010 --> 01:56:31,550
horsepower and they're smaller than a Fiat 500

3345
01:56:31,550 --> 01:56:33,990
at about 12 feet long ish.

3346
01:56:34,390 --> 01:56:37,330
Um, and they're all Japan exclusive for now.

3347
01:56:37,670 --> 01:56:39,570
Uh, although there are some other types of

3348
01:56:39,570 --> 01:56:42,570
vehicles that are on sale in Italy and

3349
01:56:42,570 --> 01:56:44,610
India that are somewhat similar.

3350
01:56:45,250 --> 01:56:47,470
Um, this would be very, very new for

3351
01:56:47,470 --> 01:56:49,110
the U S market to have something like

3352
01:56:49,110 --> 01:56:49,550
this here.

3353
01:56:49,670 --> 01:56:51,150
I think it would really shake things up

3354
01:56:51,150 --> 01:56:52,350
for the U S consumer.

3355
01:56:52,870 --> 01:56:56,170
So he, I guess he's changing or undoing

3356
01:56:56,170 --> 01:56:59,810
the corporate average fuel economy standards.

3357
01:57:00,450 --> 01:57:01,730
Yeah, sure.

3358
01:57:02,410 --> 01:57:04,650
Which makes a lot of sense.

3359
01:57:04,830 --> 01:57:07,430
We can bring back the Volkswagen diesels.

3360
01:57:08,210 --> 01:57:12,050
But that, that look, remember that they faked

3361
01:57:12,050 --> 01:57:12,710
their tests.

3362
01:57:13,450 --> 01:57:13,650
Yeah.

3363
01:57:14,230 --> 01:57:16,710
I, I always suspected when I was in,

3364
01:57:16,730 --> 01:57:19,210
uh, Sweden, they put us on the track

3365
01:57:19,210 --> 01:57:22,530
with the, uh, with the Volvo diesels.

3366
01:57:22,930 --> 01:57:25,250
And I always thought something was fishy with

3367
01:57:25,250 --> 01:57:26,990
these things because they just excel.

3368
01:57:27,090 --> 01:57:28,670
I've never, cause I've driven diesels.

3369
01:57:28,670 --> 01:57:32,330
Everyone has, and they, these things, these, this

3370
01:57:32,330 --> 01:57:33,810
new style of diesel, which is the one

3371
01:57:33,810 --> 01:57:35,410
Volkswagen use the same design.

3372
01:57:35,770 --> 01:57:37,570
They just went like bats out of hell.

3373
01:57:37,910 --> 01:57:39,570
I mean, it was astonishingly quick.

3374
01:57:39,850 --> 01:57:39,950
Yeah.

3375
01:57:39,950 --> 01:57:41,690
You don't even, you don't even notice it.

3376
01:57:42,010 --> 01:57:43,410
You wouldn't even know it was a diesel.

3377
01:57:43,630 --> 01:57:45,270
No, except in, in Europe, they have the

3378
01:57:45,270 --> 01:57:46,950
diesels, but you have to get the blue,

3379
01:57:47,510 --> 01:57:49,310
the blue stuff, which is, you know, the,

3380
01:57:49,450 --> 01:57:52,490
like the, uh, what do they call it?

3381
01:57:53,050 --> 01:57:54,270
It's not acts blue.

3382
01:57:54,710 --> 01:57:55,810
Um, yeah.

3383
01:57:55,930 --> 01:57:57,430
Oh, that, that, that liquid.

3384
01:57:57,730 --> 01:57:58,110
Yes.

3385
01:57:58,110 --> 01:58:00,270
I guess it has to be injected to

3386
01:58:00,270 --> 01:58:01,510
keep the pollution down.

3387
01:58:01,610 --> 01:58:03,210
And that's the scam.

3388
01:58:03,510 --> 01:58:04,130
It's a scam.

3389
01:58:04,830 --> 01:58:05,050
Yeah.

3390
01:58:05,110 --> 01:58:05,570
It's a scam.

3391
01:58:05,670 --> 01:58:06,330
It's a total scam.

3392
01:58:06,530 --> 01:58:07,970
The car won't work without it.

3393
01:58:08,010 --> 01:58:09,410
If you run it, if you run out.

3394
01:58:09,470 --> 01:58:09,730
Oh yeah.

3395
01:58:09,850 --> 01:58:12,230
The, the, the indicator will, yeah.

3396
01:58:12,290 --> 01:58:13,850
The blue, blue stuff.

3397
01:58:13,910 --> 01:58:14,330
What is it?

3398
01:58:14,410 --> 01:58:15,130
What is it called?

3399
01:58:15,250 --> 01:58:15,750
Add blue.

3400
01:58:15,890 --> 01:58:16,590
That's what it's called.

3401
01:58:17,250 --> 01:58:17,970
Add blue.

3402
01:58:19,310 --> 01:58:21,450
Add blue, which you can only get from

3403
01:58:21,450 --> 01:58:21,870
China.

3404
01:58:23,070 --> 01:58:23,430
Yeah.

3405
01:58:23,470 --> 01:58:24,830
We should get rid of that too.

3406
01:58:25,170 --> 01:58:26,710
It would make everything a lot easier and

3407
01:58:26,710 --> 01:58:28,730
cheaper, but I look forward to my $14

3408
01:58:28,730 --> 01:58:29,690
,000 car.

3409
01:58:30,790 --> 01:58:31,830
That would be nice.

3410
01:58:32,510 --> 01:58:34,750
That little car they're talking about goes 28

3411
01:58:34,750 --> 01:58:35,350
miles an hour.

3412
01:58:35,470 --> 01:58:35,850
Max.

3413
01:58:36,730 --> 01:58:38,170
They didn't mention that in the report.

3414
01:58:38,250 --> 01:58:38,590
Did they?

3415
01:58:38,890 --> 01:58:39,050
No.

3416
01:58:39,210 --> 01:58:41,030
Well, a lot of people are like, oh

3417
01:58:41,030 --> 01:58:43,210
yeah, I can finally get that $14,000

3418
01:58:43,210 --> 01:58:44,270
Toyota truck.

3419
01:58:44,990 --> 01:58:46,710
Apparently there's some really, oh yeah.

3420
01:58:46,930 --> 01:58:47,550
The Toyota truck.

3421
01:58:47,650 --> 01:58:48,550
Everybody wants that.

3422
01:58:48,570 --> 01:58:49,430
It's a small truck.

3423
01:58:49,490 --> 01:58:50,670
They used to sell it in this country,

3424
01:58:50,750 --> 01:58:52,210
uh, back in the seventies.

3425
01:58:52,270 --> 01:58:54,510
There was a, it's like a half size

3426
01:58:54,510 --> 01:58:56,570
pickup truck with a big bed.

3427
01:58:57,130 --> 01:58:58,390
So it's very handy.

3428
01:58:58,990 --> 01:59:00,570
And it's got great gas mileage.

3429
01:59:00,770 --> 01:59:02,630
It's small, uh, Toyota.

3430
01:59:02,790 --> 01:59:04,110
And they took it off the market for

3431
01:59:04,110 --> 01:59:06,930
some reason or other during one of the

3432
01:59:06,930 --> 01:59:09,710
administrations by someone or Clinton, I think.

3433
01:59:09,830 --> 01:59:09,950
Yeah.

3434
01:59:10,450 --> 01:59:12,550
And they, yeah, we can't have this anymore.

3435
01:59:12,670 --> 01:59:14,450
And so it drew in the market for,

3436
01:59:14,510 --> 01:59:16,450
for small pickups.

3437
01:59:16,450 --> 01:59:16,810
Yeah.

3438
01:59:16,950 --> 01:59:17,710
Now it's back.

3439
01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:18,350
That's that.

3440
01:59:18,490 --> 01:59:19,190
That's a winner.

3441
01:59:19,330 --> 01:59:19,790
That thing.

3442
01:59:20,210 --> 01:59:21,050
So it's called Def.

3443
01:59:21,110 --> 01:59:21,310
Yeah.

3444
01:59:21,410 --> 01:59:21,730
Def.

3445
01:59:22,050 --> 01:59:23,170
That's a pig urine.

3446
01:59:23,250 --> 01:59:24,350
Remember we had, we did a whole show

3447
01:59:24,350 --> 01:59:25,130
about pig urine.

3448
01:59:25,530 --> 01:59:26,110
Oh, that's right.

3449
01:59:26,110 --> 01:59:28,170
The pig urine goes into the gasoline, into

3450
01:59:28,170 --> 01:59:29,170
the diesel fuel.

3451
01:59:29,310 --> 01:59:31,550
Yeah, that's just the greatest.

3452
01:59:31,850 --> 01:59:35,450
Meanwhile, only a tiny, tiny elite controls all

3453
01:59:35,450 --> 01:59:36,490
of the money in the world.

3454
01:59:36,870 --> 01:59:39,690
A new world inequality report warns that fewer

3455
01:59:39,690 --> 01:59:42,470
than 60,000 of the world's richest people

3456
01:59:42,470 --> 01:59:44,650
own more wealth than half of the entire

3457
01:59:44,650 --> 01:59:45,670
world put together.

3458
01:59:45,890 --> 01:59:48,810
The report highlights extreme gaps in income and

3459
01:59:48,810 --> 01:59:52,210
wealth, which translate into unequal distribution of political

3460
01:59:52,210 --> 01:59:52,670
power.

3461
01:59:53,010 --> 01:59:56,430
A global elite amounting to 0.001%

3462
01:59:56,430 --> 01:59:58,970
of the population is three times wealthier than

3463
01:59:58,970 --> 01:59:59,830
the bottom 50%.

3464
02:00:00,370 --> 02:00:02,770
At the same time, the top tier contributes

3465
02:00:02,770 --> 02:00:05,530
disproportionately little to public finances.

3466
02:00:06,350 --> 02:00:08,750
Middle class workers on a high professional salary,

3467
02:00:08,870 --> 02:00:11,690
such as doctors, teachers, and engineers pay a

3468
02:00:11,690 --> 02:00:13,790
higher share of their income in tax than

3469
02:00:13,790 --> 02:00:15,870
a billionaire whose wealth is based on offshore

3470
02:00:15,870 --> 02:00:17,470
structures or capital gains.

3471
02:00:17,470 --> 02:00:20,650
Global wealth inequality also leads to an unequal

3472
02:00:20,650 --> 02:00:22,590
contribution to climate change.

3473
02:00:27,170 --> 02:00:29,570
Well, wait, I have another one.

3474
02:00:31,270 --> 02:00:31,710
Solastalgia.

3475
02:00:32,370 --> 02:00:33,730
Have you heard of this disease?

3476
02:00:34,970 --> 02:00:36,870
Well, I want to stay with the rich

3477
02:00:36,870 --> 02:00:37,670
people first.

3478
02:00:38,470 --> 02:00:40,330
Because I have a series, because they're trying

3479
02:00:40,330 --> 02:00:42,510
to institute a wealth tax now.

3480
02:00:42,650 --> 02:00:43,210
And you know me.

3481
02:00:43,350 --> 02:00:44,410
Well, that's what this is about.

3482
02:00:44,550 --> 02:00:45,810
That's what that whole clip is about.

3483
02:00:45,810 --> 02:00:47,490
Based on climate change.

3484
02:00:48,290 --> 02:00:50,090
Yeah, well, climate, whatever.

3485
02:00:50,430 --> 02:00:53,070
But in California, they're trying to institute a

3486
02:00:53,070 --> 02:00:57,210
wealth tax on the billionaires.

3487
02:00:57,530 --> 02:01:00,190
And it's all revealed in my untitled clip

3488
02:01:00,190 --> 02:01:00,730
one.

3489
02:01:01,510 --> 02:01:04,210
Talk about a wealth tax is back, maybe

3490
02:01:04,210 --> 02:01:06,830
because of the stunning increase in unaffordability and

3491
02:01:06,830 --> 02:01:07,410
inequity.

3492
02:01:07,870 --> 02:01:09,950
Oxfam reported on the work of three French

3493
02:01:09,950 --> 02:01:12,350
economists who found that around the world, the

3494
02:01:12,350 --> 02:01:16,030
top 1% of people own about 43%,

3495
02:01:16,030 --> 02:01:18,870
almost half of the world's total wealth.

3496
02:01:19,150 --> 02:01:21,150
Could a wealth tax spread that around a

3497
02:01:21,150 --> 02:01:21,290
little?

3498
02:01:21,750 --> 02:01:24,430
This is no coincidence that Euronews had that

3499
02:01:24,430 --> 02:01:24,870
report.

3500
02:01:25,130 --> 02:01:26,350
And now this is from where?

3501
02:01:26,470 --> 02:01:26,810
NPR?

3502
02:01:27,530 --> 02:01:27,830
Yep.

3503
02:01:28,170 --> 02:01:29,950
No coincidence whatsoever.

3504
02:01:30,190 --> 02:01:31,870
That's why it's interesting.

3505
02:01:32,330 --> 02:01:34,250
Now, most of us are taxed on paychecks,

3506
02:01:34,350 --> 02:01:34,930
what we make.

3507
02:01:35,270 --> 02:01:37,330
A wealth tax is a concept of taxing

3508
02:01:37,330 --> 02:01:40,370
billionaires on what they own, which might include

3509
02:01:40,370 --> 02:01:42,170
a few Picasso's and an NBA team.

3510
02:01:42,670 --> 02:01:44,410
Patricia Cohen of the New York Times reports

3511
02:01:44,410 --> 02:01:47,390
that Norway, Switzerland and Spain already have wealth

3512
02:01:47,390 --> 02:01:47,930
taxes.

3513
02:01:48,350 --> 02:01:51,250
Bolivia has an impuesto a las grandes fortunas,

3514
02:01:51,410 --> 02:01:53,350
or tax on grand fortunes.

3515
02:01:53,690 --> 02:01:55,770
There are heated debates in France and in

3516
02:01:55,770 --> 02:01:56,010
Britain.

3517
02:01:56,210 --> 02:01:59,050
One survey shows 75% of people in

3518
02:01:59,050 --> 02:02:00,730
the UK support this idea.

3519
02:02:01,350 --> 02:02:03,630
While here at home, California recently proposed a

3520
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billionaire tax act, a one-time 5%

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tax on the worth of California's billionaires to

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pay for health care and education in the

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state.

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They can exclude retirement accounts and up to

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$5 million in assets like cars and expensive

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handbags.

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But what are the pros and cons?

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Christina Llewellyn is a professor at the Poole

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College of Management at North Carolina State University.

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Among her recent articles on the university's website

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is the pros and cons of wealth taxes.

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That works out well for us.

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Professor Llewellyn, Christina, welcome.

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Thank you so much.

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I'm really happy to be here.

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And thank you for having me.

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That's exactly why I ended it.

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If you want to solve the problem, get

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rid of central banks.

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02:02:48,410 --> 02:02:49,230
How about that?

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02:02:49,310 --> 02:02:50,750
It's the wealth tax.

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This is dumb.

3543
02:02:53,110 --> 02:02:54,750
Well, I wrote a column on wealth tax,

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which I think is better than income tax,

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02:02:56,390 --> 02:02:57,890
but they're not doing it that way.

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02:02:57,910 --> 02:02:59,130
They want to have it on top of

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income tax, which is not the idea.

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And it's on my substack, dvorak.substack.com.

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Go look at it.

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You look it up.

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It's I wrote it years ago.

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I keep talking about it, but it's not

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5% of a billionaire.

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It's, you know, everybody gets taxed a little

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02:03:13,050 --> 02:03:13,710
bit.

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02:03:13,790 --> 02:03:15,810
But whatever the case, this is like nonsense.

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02:03:16,550 --> 02:03:18,050
If you want to play more, it's part

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two.

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02:03:18,690 --> 02:03:21,790
So a quick example, which you outline NBA

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player LeBron James made over 47 million dollars

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02:03:24,730 --> 02:03:26,210
in the 24-25 season.

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02:03:26,310 --> 02:03:27,530
Now go after the black man.

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02:03:28,110 --> 02:03:30,970
And was taxed at 37% on most

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02:03:30,970 --> 02:03:31,570
of his income.

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02:03:31,770 --> 02:03:33,510
But then you give the example of Mark

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02:03:33,510 --> 02:03:34,150
Zuckerberg.

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02:03:34,150 --> 02:03:35,390
Wait a minute.

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02:03:36,670 --> 02:03:38,730
There's like a double whammy in here.

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02:03:39,130 --> 02:03:40,710
Like, oh, the black man who made it

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02:03:40,710 --> 02:03:42,410
rich, he gets taxed 37%.

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02:03:42,410 --> 02:03:45,330
But the white Jew, man, no, no, no.

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02:03:45,450 --> 02:03:46,810
Trolling shareholder of Meta.

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02:03:47,030 --> 02:03:47,590
Right, exactly.

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02:03:47,710 --> 02:03:49,810
So Mark Zuckerberg, he only receives a dollar

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in salaries, but he has a substantial amount

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of wealth accumulated.

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02:03:53,530 --> 02:03:55,250
So if we impose a 5% tax

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on that, it would generate a substantial amount

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02:03:57,550 --> 02:03:58,010
of revenue.

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He does have 209.4 billion.

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02:04:01,190 --> 02:04:03,330
Worth remembering, every one of those billions is

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a thousand million.

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And then this proposed 5% wealth tax

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02:04:07,530 --> 02:04:09,970
for him would be just 10 billion off

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02:04:09,970 --> 02:04:11,210
209 billion.

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02:04:11,570 --> 02:04:13,150
And that's not going to hurt.

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02:04:13,590 --> 02:04:16,130
But the issue with this is really just

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02:04:16,130 --> 02:04:17,850
because he has this wealth, it doesn't mean

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that he has the amount of money laying

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02:04:19,470 --> 02:04:20,710
around to pay this tax.

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02:04:20,970 --> 02:04:22,890
Many wealthy people, their money is tied up

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02:04:22,890 --> 02:04:24,550
in their assets, so they don't necessarily keep

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02:04:24,550 --> 02:04:25,770
a lot of cash laying around.

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02:04:25,890 --> 02:04:28,510
They invest it in other sources of wealth

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02:04:28,510 --> 02:04:30,470
that can help generate more investment income.

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02:04:30,470 --> 02:04:32,230
What might the solution there be?

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02:04:32,830 --> 02:04:35,430
A different solution could be to tax the

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investment income at a higher tax rate.

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02:04:38,010 --> 02:04:40,970
If he receives dividends or capital gains on

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stock that he does sell, we could tax

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that at a higher rate.

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But some have suggested, well, you know, some

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of these billionaires we're talking about maybe have

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02:04:47,890 --> 02:04:49,590
11 houses in one case.

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Couldn't they sell off some of their assets

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02:04:52,110 --> 02:04:54,050
or would that be seen as being unfair?

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02:04:54,650 --> 02:04:56,050
Yes, and that's a great point.

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02:04:56,310 --> 02:04:56,930
It's a great point.

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02:04:56,930 --> 02:04:59,270
When we think about tax policy principles, one

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thing that we don't want to do is

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cause taxpayers to make decisions that they wouldn't

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02:05:03,110 --> 02:05:04,930
otherwise do just because a tax is imposed.

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02:05:05,430 --> 02:05:06,750
So that's normally thought of as kind of

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02:05:06,750 --> 02:05:07,850
a bad tax policy.

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02:05:08,010 --> 02:05:10,190
Well, I think this brings us to unrealized

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02:05:10,190 --> 02:05:12,770
gains that you mentioned, Zuckerberg and others in

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02:05:12,770 --> 02:05:14,610
the short term, they get dividends, the cash

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02:05:14,610 --> 02:05:15,730
back from investments.

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02:05:16,030 --> 02:05:18,470
Those are taxed and realized.

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02:05:19,270 --> 02:05:22,510
Unrealized gains are the increase in value of

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investments on paper.

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02:05:23,870 --> 02:05:26,490
You know, this value doesn't trigger taxes until

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02:05:26,490 --> 02:05:27,650
those investments are sold.

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02:05:27,750 --> 02:05:30,730
And there's a suggestion to tax this increase

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02:05:30,730 --> 02:05:34,210
in value before sale in the increase in

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02:05:34,210 --> 02:05:35,310
other assets as well.

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02:05:35,610 --> 02:05:37,290
This will never happen.

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02:05:37,830 --> 02:05:39,130
No, it can't.

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02:05:39,210 --> 02:05:39,630
It would ruin.

3630
02:05:39,710 --> 02:05:41,030
It would kill everything.

3631
02:05:41,270 --> 02:05:43,630
It would ruin my Bitcoin stash, man.

3632
02:05:45,310 --> 02:05:46,170
Oh, yeah, it would.

3633
02:05:46,430 --> 02:05:48,970
Yes, this is often discussed.

3634
02:05:49,070 --> 02:05:51,170
By the way, Bitcoin fixes all of this.

3635
02:05:51,310 --> 02:05:53,150
But OK, we'll keep it.

3636
02:05:53,150 --> 02:05:54,270
Yeah, it does.

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02:05:54,470 --> 02:05:54,890
It does.

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02:05:55,490 --> 02:05:58,110
If we all use Bitcoin, there will be

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02:05:58,110 --> 02:05:58,890
no more wars.

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02:06:00,350 --> 02:06:02,710
There will be a lot less free sex,

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02:06:03,110 --> 02:06:07,290
tons of it in my concubine, my polycule.

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02:06:09,290 --> 02:06:10,030
All right.

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02:06:10,650 --> 02:06:12,010
Do we have to listen to more?

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02:06:12,330 --> 02:06:13,010
Is there more?

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02:06:13,130 --> 02:06:14,550
No, we don't have to listen to anything.

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02:06:14,690 --> 02:06:18,250
Well, if you think it's important, important, it's

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02:06:18,250 --> 02:06:18,830
important.

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02:06:19,030 --> 02:06:20,170
I mean, I think you got the gist

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02:06:20,170 --> 02:06:20,470
of it.

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02:06:20,470 --> 02:06:22,130
It's just like they're trying to.

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02:06:22,330 --> 02:06:24,090
Well, actually, skip to re and go to

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02:06:24,090 --> 02:06:26,050
the last clip because they at least have

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02:06:26,050 --> 02:06:27,030
a little rap.

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02:06:27,230 --> 02:06:28,550
We'll stay with California.

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02:06:28,710 --> 02:06:32,290
This just affects 200 people in California, 200

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02:06:32,290 --> 02:06:32,990
billionaires.

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02:06:33,570 --> 02:06:37,230
And the EUHW union estimates that it would

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02:06:37,230 --> 02:06:39,170
raise 100 billion.

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02:06:39,470 --> 02:06:40,530
Yeah, pay for that.

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02:06:41,270 --> 02:06:43,210
That's a substantial amount of money.

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02:06:43,510 --> 02:06:45,510
There are definitely costs and benefits of this.

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02:06:45,670 --> 02:06:47,470
And they just really have to decide if

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02:06:47,470 --> 02:06:49,930
the substantial amount of revenue that they generate

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02:06:49,930 --> 02:06:52,350
is going to be worth that administrative burden

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02:06:52,350 --> 02:06:54,030
that they're going to place on taxpayers and

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02:06:54,030 --> 02:06:54,970
the tax authority.

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02:06:55,530 --> 02:06:55,630
Yeah.

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02:06:55,930 --> 02:06:57,510
By the way, this is not a new

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02:06:57,510 --> 02:06:57,970
idea.

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02:06:58,310 --> 02:07:01,130
17th century Massachusetts colonists imposed a wealth tax

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02:07:01,130 --> 02:07:03,670
on holdings, land, ship, jewelry, livestock.

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02:07:04,210 --> 02:07:06,330
There were just a lot fewer people to

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02:07:06,330 --> 02:07:06,710
check.

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02:07:07,510 --> 02:07:08,350
Right, exactly.

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02:07:09,370 --> 02:07:12,210
People had probably less complex arrangements back then.

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02:07:12,410 --> 02:07:14,010
And I mean, although we don't normally think

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02:07:14,010 --> 02:07:16,390
about this, even a real estate tax for

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02:07:16,390 --> 02:07:18,530
property tax, it's based on how much your

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02:07:18,530 --> 02:07:20,650
real estate assets worth at that point in

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02:07:20,650 --> 02:07:20,830
time.

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02:07:21,290 --> 02:07:23,230
But real estate's pretty easy to value.

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02:07:23,350 --> 02:07:26,370
And they have specialists at the jurisdictions that

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02:07:26,370 --> 02:07:26,870
do that.

3684
02:07:27,190 --> 02:07:27,810
But yeah, you're right.

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02:07:28,110 --> 02:07:30,310
These taxes have been around for a long

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02:07:30,310 --> 02:07:31,490
time in different forms.

3687
02:07:33,270 --> 02:07:36,690
Two people get salaries for that conversation.

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02:07:38,530 --> 02:07:40,450
That's just, that's horrible.

3689
02:07:40,490 --> 02:07:41,810
But one of them didn't get paid for

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02:07:41,810 --> 02:07:41,930
it.

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02:07:42,070 --> 02:07:43,930
This is the volunteer professor.

3692
02:07:44,330 --> 02:07:45,810
Oh, she's a volunteer professor.

3693
02:07:45,810 --> 02:07:47,090
No, she's a professor.

3694
02:07:47,290 --> 02:07:48,510
She gets paid to be a professor.

3695
02:07:48,610 --> 02:07:50,150
She didn't get paid to talk to NPR.

3696
02:07:50,510 --> 02:07:52,550
She gets paid to do this dumb research.

3697
02:07:54,510 --> 02:07:56,230
Research on the wealth tax.

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02:07:56,510 --> 02:07:58,070
The wealth tax is not a bad idea

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02:07:58,070 --> 02:08:01,070
if it's applied to everyone, not just to,

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02:08:01,170 --> 02:08:02,530
you know, you take a billionaire and go

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02:08:02,530 --> 02:08:02,670
out.

3702
02:08:02,770 --> 02:08:05,610
This is just, it's called amongst the rich

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02:08:05,610 --> 02:08:07,390
people, they always like to use this term,

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02:08:08,150 --> 02:08:09,370
soaking the rich.

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02:08:09,630 --> 02:08:09,950
Yes.

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02:08:10,150 --> 02:08:12,410
And it's going to happen to you out

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02:08:12,410 --> 02:08:13,230
there in California.

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02:08:13,230 --> 02:08:16,370
The longer you stay, they're like, oh, DeVore.

3709
02:08:16,690 --> 02:08:17,750
One of the things is this pendulum.

3710
02:08:17,930 --> 02:08:18,810
You ever heard of this?

3711
02:08:18,890 --> 02:08:19,910
The pendulum swings.

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02:08:20,170 --> 02:08:20,330
Yeah.

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02:08:20,510 --> 02:08:20,910
Enjoy.

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02:08:21,110 --> 02:08:23,390
Enjoy the pendulum that knocks you in the

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02:08:23,390 --> 02:08:25,390
head when it swings back.

3716
02:08:25,730 --> 02:08:28,470
It's already swinging back with Gavin Newsom being,

3717
02:08:28,890 --> 02:08:29,770
he's going to be ousted.

3718
02:08:29,930 --> 02:08:32,530
We're going to put in, Tom Steyer is

3719
02:08:32,530 --> 02:08:33,450
going to be the next governor.

3720
02:08:33,610 --> 02:08:33,990
Oh yeah.

3721
02:08:34,110 --> 02:08:34,490
Oh yeah.

3722
02:08:34,490 --> 02:08:35,310
It's going to be great.

3723
02:08:36,190 --> 02:08:37,410
But don't say I didn't warn you.

3724
02:08:37,530 --> 02:08:38,730
Don't say I didn't warn you.

3725
02:08:39,190 --> 02:08:39,870
Yeah, okay.

3726
02:08:40,070 --> 02:08:41,730
Because, you know, we can't come guns a

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02:08:41,730 --> 02:08:45,270
-blazing across the country border of California when

3728
02:08:45,270 --> 02:08:46,050
you guys succeed.

3729
02:08:46,790 --> 02:08:47,510
I'm not going to be able to help

3730
02:08:47,510 --> 02:08:47,710
you.

3731
02:08:47,710 --> 02:08:48,850
Well, when we succeed, we succeed.

3732
02:08:48,990 --> 02:08:49,790
It's just the way it is.

3733
02:08:50,010 --> 02:08:50,990
And with that, I want to thank you

3734
02:08:50,990 --> 02:08:51,690
for your courage.

3735
02:08:51,810 --> 02:08:53,050
Say the morning to you, the man who

3736
02:08:53,050 --> 02:08:54,930
put the C in the capital gains tax.

3737
02:08:55,050 --> 02:08:56,450
Say hello to my friend on the other

3738
02:08:56,450 --> 02:08:56,630
end.

3739
02:08:56,690 --> 02:08:59,230
The one, the only, Mr. John C.

3740
02:08:59,450 --> 02:08:59,770
DeMorgan.

3741
02:09:08,210 --> 02:09:10,370
Yo, in the morning, trolls, how you doing?

3742
02:09:10,470 --> 02:09:11,610
Let me count you for a second.

3743
02:09:15,350 --> 02:09:20,670
Well, 1,497, so we're still 300 trolls

3744
02:09:20,670 --> 02:09:23,630
short, but it's amazing so many.

3745
02:09:23,710 --> 02:09:25,410
It's like a big studio audience.

3746
02:09:26,090 --> 02:09:27,910
And sitting in the troll room, many of

3747
02:09:27,910 --> 02:09:29,630
them, which we love to see you all

3748
02:09:29,630 --> 02:09:29,970
there.

3749
02:09:32,790 --> 02:09:34,210
Well, I was going to say something.

3750
02:09:34,350 --> 02:09:35,090
What do I have here?

3751
02:09:35,170 --> 02:09:37,610
Didn't I have something in my donation segment?

3752
02:09:39,910 --> 02:09:41,250
Yeah, there was something you said you were

3753
02:09:41,250 --> 02:09:42,010
going to talk about.

3754
02:09:42,230 --> 02:09:43,090
I don't remember.

3755
02:09:43,530 --> 02:09:44,770
I'm going to write it down so I

3756
02:09:44,770 --> 02:09:45,510
can talk about it.

3757
02:09:45,510 --> 02:09:46,990
I'm not going to make that mistake again,

3758
02:09:47,010 --> 02:09:47,430
you said.

3759
02:09:47,770 --> 02:09:48,990
I did not.

3760
02:09:49,070 --> 02:09:50,130
I didn't say anything like that.

3761
02:09:50,170 --> 02:09:51,410
I have no idea what I was talking

3762
02:09:51,410 --> 02:09:51,750
about.

3763
02:09:52,270 --> 02:09:54,850
What I am talking about is that we

3764
02:09:54,850 --> 02:09:58,370
are a value for value podcast, which means

3765
02:09:59,950 --> 02:10:02,230
we appreciate when people support us.

3766
02:10:02,470 --> 02:10:04,230
However you feel like supporting us.

3767
02:10:04,310 --> 02:10:05,370
Time, talent, treasure.

3768
02:10:05,470 --> 02:10:09,210
I was just consulting my nephew in the

3769
02:10:09,210 --> 02:10:09,490
Netherlands.

3770
02:10:09,650 --> 02:10:11,350
He's like, hey, uncle, I'm going to start

3771
02:10:11,350 --> 02:10:12,090
a podcast.

3772
02:10:12,990 --> 02:10:14,710
That's what every uncle wants to hear.

3773
02:10:15,310 --> 02:10:15,490
Yeah.

3774
02:10:16,010 --> 02:10:17,170
I'm going to start a podcast.

3775
02:10:17,310 --> 02:10:18,550
I was like, okay, here's the rules.

3776
02:10:18,550 --> 02:10:21,570
One, you've got to release on the same

3777
02:10:21,570 --> 02:10:25,130
day around the same time consistently, always, because

3778
02:10:25,130 --> 02:10:26,090
people start to shape.

3779
02:10:26,090 --> 02:10:26,970
Nobody does that.

3780
02:10:27,130 --> 02:10:27,770
They can't do it.

3781
02:10:27,870 --> 02:10:29,050
That's the hardest thing to do.

3782
02:10:29,150 --> 02:10:30,350
But we're pretty good at it.

3783
02:10:30,910 --> 02:10:32,690
The thing that there's two hard things to

3784
02:10:32,690 --> 02:10:35,130
do, just not to interrupt, but I'm going

3785
02:10:35,130 --> 02:10:35,790
to interrupt anyway.

3786
02:10:35,890 --> 02:10:36,710
Two hard things to do.

3787
02:10:36,790 --> 02:10:38,910
One is to do the podcast exactly the

3788
02:10:38,910 --> 02:10:41,230
same time every day for 18 years.

3789
02:10:41,370 --> 02:10:43,170
And the other one is to do the

3790
02:10:43,170 --> 02:10:44,470
podcast for 18 years.

3791
02:10:44,590 --> 02:10:46,570
Most people can't get past a year.

3792
02:10:46,570 --> 02:10:49,610
Seven episodes, I think, is the pod fade.

3793
02:10:50,070 --> 02:10:51,850
You actually would know that number.

3794
02:10:52,070 --> 02:10:52,250
Yes.

3795
02:10:52,390 --> 02:10:54,350
Seven episodes is the pod fade number.

3796
02:10:55,850 --> 02:10:55,950
Wow.

3797
02:10:56,470 --> 02:10:57,970
And I also said, you need to do

3798
02:10:57,970 --> 02:11:00,610
value for value right away from the beginning.

3799
02:11:01,110 --> 02:11:01,910
He says, really?

3800
02:11:02,090 --> 02:11:03,210
You say, yes, right away.

3801
02:11:03,350 --> 02:11:05,570
And if someone sends you five euros, you

3802
02:11:05,570 --> 02:11:07,230
got to thank them on the next segment.

3803
02:11:08,110 --> 02:11:11,030
And don't make it a set amount.

3804
02:11:11,230 --> 02:11:12,470
Let them donate whatever.

3805
02:11:13,210 --> 02:11:16,210
And I showed him our boob donations.

3806
02:11:16,570 --> 02:11:18,430
And then the last thing I said was,

3807
02:11:18,530 --> 02:11:20,770
when you're out of material, end the show.

3808
02:11:21,050 --> 02:11:21,710
Then it's done.

3809
02:11:22,370 --> 02:11:24,130
Don't worry about, oh, I need to make

3810
02:11:24,130 --> 02:11:25,770
exactly 55 minutes.

3811
02:11:25,930 --> 02:11:27,290
Now, just when you're out of material, just

3812
02:11:27,290 --> 02:11:27,750
end it.

3813
02:11:27,950 --> 02:11:30,690
Or when you're bored of yourself or your

3814
02:11:30,690 --> 02:11:34,530
partner, if you're bored of each other, stop.

3815
02:11:34,650 --> 02:11:35,630
Just end the show there.

3816
02:11:36,710 --> 02:11:38,710
But it's really true about same time.

3817
02:11:39,050 --> 02:11:40,790
Which is the only thing we don't do.

3818
02:11:41,470 --> 02:11:41,970
Yeah, we do.

3819
02:11:42,530 --> 02:11:44,390
Yeah, we end it when we're done.

3820
02:11:44,470 --> 02:11:46,130
All the time, like, I'm done.

3821
02:11:46,130 --> 02:11:47,150
It's a joke.

3822
02:11:47,230 --> 02:11:48,110
It's meant to be funny.

3823
02:11:48,730 --> 02:11:49,290
Yeah, OK.

3824
02:11:49,590 --> 02:11:51,930
I mean, you literally carried us way beyond,

3825
02:11:52,090 --> 02:11:52,730
way too long.

3826
02:11:53,090 --> 02:11:54,270
No, it's always my fault.

3827
02:11:54,470 --> 02:11:54,790
It is.

3828
02:11:55,010 --> 02:11:58,090
Just blame poor John over there in California.

3829
02:11:58,250 --> 02:11:59,830
The horrible state that it is.

3830
02:12:00,250 --> 02:12:01,250
Hey, I have to live here.

3831
02:12:01,450 --> 02:12:02,950
You don't have to live there.

3832
02:12:03,050 --> 02:12:03,830
There's no reason.

3833
02:12:04,390 --> 02:12:05,910
No, there's a lot of reasons.

3834
02:12:06,470 --> 02:12:07,510
Give me one.

3835
02:12:08,650 --> 02:12:09,970
Prop 13 taxes.

3836
02:12:11,850 --> 02:12:12,710
What is that?

3837
02:12:12,890 --> 02:12:13,450
What's Prop 13?

3838
02:12:13,450 --> 02:12:15,470
That means my tax bill has been frozen

3839
02:12:15,470 --> 02:12:17,710
since the day I bought this house.

3840
02:12:17,830 --> 02:12:19,710
Oh, your property taxes.

3841
02:12:19,710 --> 02:12:22,730
By some screwballs raising the property taxes for

3842
02:12:22,730 --> 02:12:23,450
no good reason.

3843
02:12:23,690 --> 02:12:24,610
Oh, that's kind of cool.

3844
02:12:25,630 --> 02:12:26,530
But yeah, yeah.

3845
02:12:27,470 --> 02:12:28,890
So you're in it for the money.

3846
02:12:29,050 --> 02:12:29,390
All right.

3847
02:12:29,410 --> 02:12:30,570
I hope it's worth it.

3848
02:12:32,070 --> 02:12:32,750
And the weather.

3849
02:12:33,230 --> 02:12:34,190
Oh, and the weather.

3850
02:12:34,530 --> 02:12:35,950
All I hear you is moaning.

3851
02:12:36,230 --> 02:12:37,090
It's too hot.

3852
02:12:37,150 --> 02:12:38,090
It's too cold.

3853
02:12:38,850 --> 02:12:41,830
Yeah, but by too cold to me, it's

3854
02:12:41,830 --> 02:12:42,510
like 60.

3855
02:12:42,510 --> 02:12:45,010
I've never heard you say it's beautiful here

3856
02:12:45,010 --> 02:12:45,430
today.

3857
02:12:46,630 --> 02:12:49,190
That's what we do in California because we

3858
02:12:49,190 --> 02:12:52,930
expect the weather to be 76 with about

3859
02:12:52,930 --> 02:12:55,450
40 percent humidity every day.

3860
02:12:55,930 --> 02:12:58,570
That's when it's beautiful and sunny, but not

3861
02:12:58,570 --> 02:12:58,930
windy.

3862
02:12:59,170 --> 02:12:59,570
All right.

3863
02:12:59,870 --> 02:13:00,390
All right.

3864
02:13:00,530 --> 02:13:02,090
Hey, you do you, boo.

3865
02:13:02,670 --> 02:13:03,490
It's all good with me.

3866
02:13:06,230 --> 02:13:07,890
So anyway, I told him that and I

3867
02:13:07,890 --> 02:13:09,750
said, do you remember when we switched from

3868
02:13:09,750 --> 02:13:12,110
11 a.m. central time to 1 p

3869
02:13:12,110 --> 02:13:12,910
.m. central time?

3870
02:13:13,010 --> 02:13:15,150
People lost their ever loving minds.

3871
02:13:16,730 --> 02:13:18,290
After like that was about 10 years ago.

3872
02:13:18,430 --> 02:13:20,090
No, five, five years ago.

3873
02:13:20,510 --> 02:13:22,770
No, it was when we moved here.

3874
02:13:23,970 --> 02:13:25,550
Yeah, I'm quite sure.

3875
02:13:26,250 --> 02:13:27,810
And people were mad.

3876
02:13:29,850 --> 02:13:31,110
I live in Europe.

3877
02:13:31,290 --> 02:13:32,590
It's too late for me now.

3878
02:13:34,950 --> 02:13:36,610
It took it was months.

3879
02:13:36,690 --> 02:13:37,730
It was at least six months.

3880
02:13:37,730 --> 02:13:39,310
The Aussies liked it.

3881
02:13:39,370 --> 02:13:40,910
I think they could listen, get up early

3882
02:13:40,910 --> 02:13:41,310
and listen.

3883
02:13:41,730 --> 02:13:44,890
Well, anyway, one of the other ways people

3884
02:13:44,890 --> 02:13:48,350
can help just talking about value for value,

3885
02:13:48,590 --> 02:13:51,790
value number four, value.info, if anyone's interested,

3886
02:13:52,150 --> 02:13:55,050
is by contributing assets to the show.

3887
02:13:55,190 --> 02:13:55,630
Assets.

3888
02:13:56,190 --> 02:13:57,910
You can give us assets like clips.

3889
02:13:58,890 --> 02:13:59,910
You know, I got a lot of end

3890
02:13:59,910 --> 02:14:02,930
of show ISOs, all real, of course, because

3891
02:14:02,930 --> 02:14:04,730
people now see it as their personal mission.

3892
02:14:04,730 --> 02:14:07,230
Like I had to work with this AI,

3893
02:14:07,630 --> 02:14:09,790
do something about that.

3894
02:14:10,610 --> 02:14:11,810
Artwork is another way.

3895
02:14:12,550 --> 02:14:14,470
And we are very appreciative of all of

3896
02:14:14,470 --> 02:14:14,570
that.

3897
02:14:14,570 --> 02:14:16,810
I was interviewed by a South African podcaster

3898
02:14:16,810 --> 02:14:17,370
yesterday.

3899
02:14:18,010 --> 02:14:19,010
She says, I love it.

3900
02:14:19,370 --> 02:14:21,430
All your art is you have fresh new

3901
02:14:21,430 --> 02:14:22,830
art for every single episode.

3902
02:14:23,410 --> 02:14:23,630
So, yeah.

3903
02:14:23,790 --> 02:14:25,430
So the guys are the South African guys

3904
02:14:25,430 --> 02:14:25,870
from England?

3905
02:14:26,430 --> 02:14:26,950
They have.

3906
02:14:27,150 --> 02:14:27,990
I'm trying to do it.

3907
02:14:28,090 --> 02:14:30,890
It's kind of an English.

3908
02:14:31,150 --> 02:14:32,710
It's an African or actually it's kind of

3909
02:14:32,710 --> 02:14:33,110
Dutch.

3910
02:14:34,090 --> 02:14:37,490
It's not only when they speak South Afrikaans,

3911
02:14:37,530 --> 02:14:40,070
which doesn't sound, you know, it's Dutch words

3912
02:14:40,070 --> 02:14:42,610
kind of, but they have a weird, more

3913
02:14:42,610 --> 02:14:46,510
British sounding accent than Dutch.

3914
02:14:47,050 --> 02:14:51,130
Anyway, Blue Acorn came in with, yeah, we

3915
02:14:51,130 --> 02:14:53,350
just thought it was something about it.

3916
02:14:53,410 --> 02:14:56,570
It was Uncle Sam doing a cannonball right

3917
02:14:56,570 --> 02:14:58,450
onto a drug boat.

3918
02:14:58,670 --> 02:14:59,490
It was humorous.

3919
02:14:59,610 --> 02:15:00,730
It was humorous.

3920
02:15:00,810 --> 02:15:01,570
That's the word.

3921
02:15:02,490 --> 02:15:05,010
noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can upload your

3922
02:15:05,010 --> 02:15:09,670
AI prompted slop, which is what most of

3923
02:15:09,670 --> 02:15:10,550
it is these days.

3924
02:15:11,610 --> 02:15:15,530
Although Blue Acorn, Blue Acorn, no, Blue Acorn

3925
02:15:15,530 --> 02:15:17,430
has some done some originals.

3926
02:15:17,810 --> 02:15:19,650
And we still have Nessworks out there and

3927
02:15:19,650 --> 02:15:20,690
there's people doing things.

3928
02:15:21,070 --> 02:15:22,450
We looked at other art.

3929
02:15:23,710 --> 02:15:26,110
Comic strip blogger, a lot of cheesecake.

3930
02:15:26,950 --> 02:15:29,490
Blue Acorn also did Trump with a kiss

3931
02:15:29,490 --> 02:15:32,730
tongue, which definitely was too gruesome.

3932
02:15:35,170 --> 02:15:37,290
And, you know, you're making it too complicated,

3933
02:15:37,450 --> 02:15:37,770
people.

3934
02:15:39,030 --> 02:15:41,270
You're way too in the details of these

3935
02:15:41,270 --> 02:15:42,050
pictures.

3936
02:15:42,310 --> 02:15:46,330
We don't need, you know, like really detailed

3937
02:15:46,330 --> 02:15:46,970
scenery.

3938
02:15:47,250 --> 02:15:49,330
It doesn't work on small album art.

3939
02:15:49,390 --> 02:15:51,550
It has to be big in your face

3940
02:15:51,550 --> 02:15:52,150
and funny.

3941
02:15:53,670 --> 02:15:55,850
And people are really trying to do like

3942
02:15:55,850 --> 02:15:58,530
cutesy little, well, I guess the AI is

3943
02:15:58,530 --> 02:15:58,950
doing that.

3944
02:15:58,990 --> 02:15:59,550
You know what I mean?

3945
02:15:59,550 --> 02:16:00,970
What am I trying to say?

3946
02:16:01,090 --> 02:16:03,050
Well, it's like safe and effective by Jeffrey

3947
02:16:03,050 --> 02:16:05,770
Ray with the bottle and all that.

3948
02:16:05,870 --> 02:16:06,930
Everything was so small.

3949
02:16:07,030 --> 02:16:09,950
You couldn't really deconstruct the narrative, which is

3950
02:16:09,950 --> 02:16:12,130
not what we deconstruct media, not the narrative.

3951
02:16:12,370 --> 02:16:14,070
But that's in the background.

3952
02:16:14,230 --> 02:16:16,490
There's newspapers that we don't need all that.

3953
02:16:16,830 --> 02:16:20,610
Safe and effective remedy for media malaise.

3954
02:16:20,790 --> 02:16:21,450
You can't read it.

3955
02:16:21,610 --> 02:16:22,330
No, it's too small.

3956
02:16:23,490 --> 02:16:25,450
Secretary of egg from Jeffrey Ray.

3957
02:16:25,610 --> 02:16:27,230
The secretary of egg is too small.

3958
02:16:27,450 --> 02:16:27,950
You can't read it.

3959
02:16:27,950 --> 02:16:30,210
And then there was the blue acorns chicken

3960
02:16:30,210 --> 02:16:31,930
head secretary of egg.

3961
02:16:32,049 --> 02:16:33,610
It's just kind of gruesome in some odd

3962
02:16:33,610 --> 02:16:33,850
way.

3963
02:16:33,950 --> 02:16:35,830
I can't tell you why it was a

3964
02:16:35,830 --> 02:16:36,530
little gruesome.

3965
02:16:37,490 --> 02:16:37,889
Yeah.

3966
02:16:38,809 --> 02:16:41,530
So, you know, don't try to do cute

3967
02:16:41,530 --> 02:16:41,969
scenery.

3968
02:16:42,090 --> 02:16:43,330
It has to be in your face.

3969
02:16:43,389 --> 02:16:44,969
It has to be upfront big.

3970
02:16:45,430 --> 02:16:46,150
Make it clear.

3971
02:16:47,030 --> 02:16:47,790
Put that in.

3972
02:16:47,850 --> 02:16:50,030
And then the nut fisting by blue acorn.

3973
02:16:50,510 --> 02:16:52,309
First of all, it wasn't fisting.

3974
02:16:52,410 --> 02:16:54,190
Santa wasn't fisting the nuts.

3975
02:16:55,150 --> 02:16:57,469
And they were like, they still had the

3976
02:16:57,469 --> 02:16:58,290
shells on them.

3977
02:16:59,090 --> 02:16:59,250
Yeah.

3978
02:16:59,510 --> 02:17:00,850
Peanuts with shells on it.

3979
02:17:01,030 --> 02:17:01,450
That's wrong.

3980
02:17:01,910 --> 02:17:02,549
You can.

3981
02:17:02,709 --> 02:17:03,830
You know, if you're going to get your

3982
02:17:03,830 --> 02:17:06,030
if an AI comes out like that, don't

3983
02:17:06,030 --> 02:17:07,070
don't put it on the.

3984
02:17:07,510 --> 02:17:09,049
Yeah, you're just embarrassing yourself.

3985
02:17:13,070 --> 02:17:14,990
So that's one way you can contribute.

3986
02:17:15,129 --> 02:17:15,990
Just embarrassing.

3987
02:17:16,570 --> 02:17:20,510
You can also contribute by supporting us financially.

3988
02:17:20,770 --> 02:17:22,150
And we always appreciate that.

3989
02:17:22,150 --> 02:17:22,969
We thank everybody.

3990
02:17:23,070 --> 02:17:24,110
Fifty dollars and above.

3991
02:17:24,250 --> 02:17:26,610
And in this segment is where we thank

3992
02:17:26,610 --> 02:17:28,350
what we call our not just call, but

3993
02:17:28,350 --> 02:17:30,510
who are credited as our executive and associate

3994
02:17:30,510 --> 02:17:31,510
executive producers.

3995
02:17:31,990 --> 02:17:33,150
Why, you ask?

3996
02:17:33,750 --> 02:17:34,090
Why?

3997
02:17:34,290 --> 02:17:36,410
Because two hundred dollars above we read your

3998
02:17:36,410 --> 02:17:38,190
note and you get that associate executive producer

3999
02:17:38,190 --> 02:17:38,549
title.

4000
02:17:38,629 --> 02:17:41,150
Three hundred dollars above executive producer title.

4001
02:17:41,209 --> 02:17:42,389
And we also read your note.

4002
02:17:42,670 --> 02:17:45,290
All these titles can be entered into IMDb

4003
02:17:45,290 --> 02:17:46,950
.com for Hollywood clout.

4004
02:17:46,950 --> 02:17:50,469
And we start off with a note from

4005
02:17:50,469 --> 02:17:52,070
Horton Horton.

4006
02:17:52,870 --> 02:17:56,650
Who comes in with the rubber laser donation.

4007
02:17:56,870 --> 02:17:58,690
Three thousand three hundred and thirty three dollars

4008
02:17:58,690 --> 02:18:00,110
and thirty three cents.

4009
02:18:00,530 --> 02:18:03,830
India stand by.

4010
02:18:08,250 --> 02:18:09,629
Rubber laser out.

4011
02:18:10,190 --> 02:18:10,709
Wow.

4012
02:18:11,030 --> 02:18:12,950
Was this the guy who kept promising it?

4013
02:18:13,090 --> 02:18:13,549
No, no.

4014
02:18:13,629 --> 02:18:14,610
This is a different guy.

4015
02:18:14,709 --> 02:18:16,070
This guy is a first time donor.

4016
02:18:16,070 --> 02:18:16,830
Wow.

4017
02:18:16,990 --> 02:18:18,490
So he gets a deducing as well.

4018
02:18:18,670 --> 02:18:19,230
I guess we should.

4019
02:18:21,010 --> 02:18:22,590
You've been deduced.

4020
02:18:24,110 --> 02:18:26,570
Now he he asks for this is to

4021
02:18:26,570 --> 02:18:29,629
be read in a southern draw southern redneck

4022
02:18:29,629 --> 02:18:30,230
drawl.

4023
02:18:32,230 --> 02:18:35,350
Which, yeah, you can do it.

4024
02:18:35,930 --> 02:18:37,910
I am cracking buzz.

4025
02:18:38,290 --> 02:18:40,230
I hope this note finds you well.

4026
02:18:40,410 --> 02:18:41,309
First time donor.

4027
02:18:41,410 --> 02:18:42,370
Please deduce me.

4028
02:18:44,010 --> 02:18:45,650
You've been deduced.

4029
02:18:45,650 --> 02:18:47,350
I was hit in the mouth more than

4030
02:18:47,350 --> 02:18:48,450
four years ago.

4031
02:18:48,629 --> 02:18:50,190
I'm not a southern black man.

4032
02:18:50,650 --> 02:18:52,610
By Ben and his lovely wife, Rel.

4033
02:18:52,770 --> 02:18:54,790
Starting to go, starting to go Georgia.

4034
02:18:55,070 --> 02:18:58,049
While exploring the ancient sites in Peru.

4035
02:18:58,889 --> 02:19:01,549
Call out on the Uncharted X website and

4036
02:19:01,549 --> 02:19:03,530
YouTube channel for awesome content.

4037
02:19:04,590 --> 02:19:06,670
Please knight me, Sir Horton of the Who.

4038
02:19:06,790 --> 02:19:08,990
And I request to be Baron of Whoville

4039
02:19:08,990 --> 02:19:12,730
as a homeless nomad wandering, wandering the world.

4040
02:19:12,730 --> 02:19:17,389
Your global content, especially Africa news and insightful

4041
02:19:17,389 --> 02:19:20,209
analysis helps me stay on the bleeding edge

4042
02:19:20,209 --> 02:19:25,510
of ops, obfuscation and calumny, calumny spread by

4043
02:19:25,510 --> 02:19:26,370
the M5M.

4044
02:19:26,610 --> 02:19:29,030
For all producers looking for that special gift

4045
02:19:29,030 --> 02:19:30,790
to convey just how much you care.

4046
02:19:30,870 --> 02:19:32,709
My tip of the day is the gift

4047
02:19:32,709 --> 02:19:34,610
of a total washlet bidet.

4048
02:19:34,809 --> 02:19:36,610
That would be a bidet for you.

4049
02:19:36,610 --> 02:19:40,629
Northerners bidet environmentally sustainable and sweet to your

4050
02:19:40,629 --> 02:19:41,110
loved ones.

4051
02:19:41,110 --> 02:19:41,709
Privates.

4052
02:19:43,650 --> 02:19:45,070
Thank you for your service.

4053
02:19:45,510 --> 02:19:47,430
Can I have some Luwak coffee?

4054
02:19:47,970 --> 02:19:49,930
A Luwak coffee at the round table and

4055
02:19:49,930 --> 02:19:51,630
send me off with a long version of

4056
02:19:51,630 --> 02:19:54,110
the F-35 Karma.

4057
02:19:56,310 --> 02:19:58,350
That's, I'll have to invent that.

4058
02:19:58,690 --> 02:20:00,630
Rev. Al resists me much along with the

4059
02:20:00,630 --> 02:20:02,330
coveted Rubber Lizer jingle.

4060
02:20:02,550 --> 02:20:04,490
Thank you for your attention to this matter.

4061
02:20:04,630 --> 02:20:07,230
Horton, P.S. Looking forward to seeing the

4062
02:20:07,230 --> 02:20:09,310
special Rubber Lizer challenge coin.

4063
02:20:09,310 --> 02:20:10,750
Well, we'll do it all in one go

4064
02:20:10,750 --> 02:20:11,210
for you.

4065
02:20:11,270 --> 02:20:11,950
Well, one more time.

4066
02:20:12,770 --> 02:20:13,190
India.

4067
02:20:13,570 --> 02:20:13,930
Tango.

4068
02:20:14,270 --> 02:20:14,670
Mike.

4069
02:20:15,450 --> 02:20:16,230
Standby.

4070
02:20:17,010 --> 02:20:17,550
33.

4071
02:20:18,030 --> 02:20:18,590
33.

4072
02:20:19,030 --> 02:20:19,530
33.

4073
02:20:20,650 --> 02:20:21,970
Rubber Lizer out.

4074
02:20:22,030 --> 02:20:23,890
But resist we much.

4075
02:20:24,590 --> 02:20:29,530
We must and we will much about that

4076
02:20:29,530 --> 02:20:30,770
be committed.

4077
02:20:34,130 --> 02:20:38,370
You've got Karma.

4078
02:20:39,810 --> 02:20:40,670
There you go.

4079
02:20:41,450 --> 02:20:43,630
And he wanted Luwak coffee.

4080
02:20:43,890 --> 02:20:44,390
Luwak.

4081
02:20:45,270 --> 02:20:45,790
Yes.

4082
02:20:47,090 --> 02:20:47,550
Nothing.

4083
02:20:47,870 --> 02:20:48,830
Ian Hickey's up.

4084
02:20:48,970 --> 02:20:50,350
Oh, I thought you had something to say.

4085
02:20:50,430 --> 02:20:51,870
Well, thank you very much, Horton.

4086
02:20:52,910 --> 02:20:55,750
That is, that really helps out today, especially.

4087
02:20:55,990 --> 02:20:56,430
Thank you.

4088
02:20:56,830 --> 02:20:57,250
Appreciate it.

4089
02:20:57,330 --> 02:20:58,230
Luwak coffee.

4090
02:20:58,410 --> 02:20:58,850
Got it.

4091
02:20:59,890 --> 02:21:02,930
And I will analyze your southern redneck.

4092
02:21:03,090 --> 02:21:04,910
That was actually a Texas accent.

4093
02:21:05,290 --> 02:21:07,210
Yeah, he did drift to Georgia a little

4094
02:21:07,210 --> 02:21:07,590
bit.

4095
02:21:07,690 --> 02:21:07,950
Yes.

4096
02:21:08,050 --> 02:21:10,170
But it was the regular Texas accent that

4097
02:21:10,170 --> 02:21:11,470
the people would normally have.

4098
02:21:11,530 --> 02:21:15,990
Not that my favorite one, which is Fort

4099
02:21:15,990 --> 02:21:19,650
Worth, where he is constantly making noise.

4100
02:21:24,070 --> 02:21:24,990
Onward to.

4101
02:21:25,650 --> 02:21:26,910
Oh, yes.

4102
02:21:27,070 --> 02:21:27,810
Ian Hickey.

4103
02:21:28,310 --> 02:21:30,870
Ian Hickey, Williamsport, Pennsylvania.

4104
02:21:31,330 --> 02:21:32,650
And he came with a thousand.

4105
02:21:33,790 --> 02:21:34,490
Thanks for the show.

4106
02:21:34,490 --> 02:21:37,610
I was introduced to you, the show in

4107
02:21:37,610 --> 02:21:39,110
2025, June.

4108
02:21:39,750 --> 02:21:41,550
I have not been a daily listener.

4109
02:21:41,610 --> 02:21:44,870
However, I value your time and effort.

4110
02:21:44,990 --> 02:21:48,050
I very much enjoy your perspective and banter.

4111
02:21:48,470 --> 02:21:50,010
We had a lot of banter today.

4112
02:21:50,310 --> 02:21:52,710
Romans 5, 6, 8.

4113
02:21:53,050 --> 02:21:54,490
Please read on the air.

4114
02:21:54,670 --> 02:21:56,850
Fellow brother in Christ, Ian Hickey.

4115
02:21:57,670 --> 02:21:59,510
Romans 5, 6, 8.

4116
02:22:00,110 --> 02:22:00,710
New IV.

4117
02:22:00,710 --> 02:22:03,850
You see, at just the right time when

4118
02:22:03,850 --> 02:22:06,530
we were still powerless, Christ died for the

4119
02:22:06,530 --> 02:22:07,570
ungodly.

4120
02:22:07,750 --> 02:22:09,790
Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous

4121
02:22:09,790 --> 02:22:12,470
person, though for a good person, someone might

4122
02:22:12,470 --> 02:22:13,630
possibly dare to die.

4123
02:22:13,710 --> 02:22:16,050
But God demonstrates his own love for us

4124
02:22:16,050 --> 02:22:16,430
in this.

4125
02:22:16,750 --> 02:22:19,190
While we were still sinners, Christ died for

4126
02:22:19,190 --> 02:22:19,490
us.

4127
02:22:20,330 --> 02:22:21,230
There you go.

4128
02:22:22,810 --> 02:22:23,670
Thank you, Ian.

4129
02:22:24,110 --> 02:22:25,910
I think you get an international peace prize

4130
02:22:25,910 --> 02:22:26,410
for that.

4131
02:22:27,290 --> 02:22:30,550
Sir Hare Heal in White Salmon, Washington.

4132
02:22:30,750 --> 02:22:33,690
333.33. He wants F cancer and a

4133
02:22:33,690 --> 02:22:34,390
jobs karma.

4134
02:22:34,770 --> 02:22:36,370
He says here's to another year of no

4135
02:22:36,370 --> 02:22:38,630
agenda and four more after that.

4136
02:22:39,010 --> 02:22:40,690
Sir Hare Heal.

4137
02:22:41,290 --> 02:22:42,010
All right.

4138
02:22:42,110 --> 02:22:45,530
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

4139
02:22:45,730 --> 02:22:47,130
Let's vote for jobs.

4140
02:22:51,460 --> 02:22:53,300
You've got karma.

4141
02:22:54,380 --> 02:22:55,840
Christopher Graves is up.

4142
02:22:55,880 --> 02:22:57,220
He's in Mount Ockham.

4143
02:22:57,840 --> 02:23:00,260
Uh, that's in California somewhere.

4144
02:23:00,840 --> 02:23:03,020
No matter what you do this holiday, he

4145
02:23:03,020 --> 02:23:06,700
writes, make sure you value, make sure those

4146
02:23:06,700 --> 02:23:09,700
you value, make sure those you value know

4147
02:23:09,700 --> 02:23:10,560
their worth.

4148
02:23:11,140 --> 02:23:13,580
So that's why he gave us 242 dollars.

4149
02:23:13,760 --> 02:23:14,240
There you go.

4150
02:23:14,680 --> 02:23:17,740
So donate to the no agenda show at.

4151
02:23:17,960 --> 02:23:18,780
Oh, my goodness.

4152
02:23:18,860 --> 02:23:20,820
At Little John's Candies, we make our time.

4153
02:23:20,920 --> 02:23:22,300
They must be selling a lot of toffee

4154
02:23:22,300 --> 02:23:24,340
fresh in our kitchen and ship it to

4155
02:23:24,340 --> 02:23:24,780
your door.

4156
02:23:24,780 --> 02:23:27,440
We will gift wrap it at no extra

4157
02:23:27,440 --> 02:23:29,800
charge, including your personal holiday note.

4158
02:23:30,060 --> 02:23:32,860
Go to Little John's Candies dot com.

4159
02:23:33,080 --> 02:23:36,000
That's Little John's Candies dot com and use

4160
02:23:36,000 --> 02:23:38,940
the code ITM 10 plus 10 and save

4161
02:23:38,940 --> 02:23:42,560
10 percent for yourself and while donating 10

4162
02:23:42,560 --> 02:23:43,320
percent to the show.

4163
02:23:43,540 --> 02:23:46,740
So in other words, he's gotten 24 boxes

4164
02:23:46,740 --> 02:23:47,100
sold.

4165
02:23:47,220 --> 02:23:50,080
That looks like holiday sales karma and happy

4166
02:23:50,080 --> 02:23:53,620
holidays to our fellow small business owners during

4167
02:23:53,620 --> 02:23:54,340
the season.

4168
02:23:54,340 --> 02:23:55,660
These people are so nice.

4169
02:23:55,780 --> 02:23:57,720
A little Little John's Candies dot com.

4170
02:23:58,480 --> 02:23:59,960
So I'd mentioned on the show that we're

4171
02:23:59,960 --> 02:24:02,300
saving the toffee they sent us to have

4172
02:24:02,300 --> 02:24:04,660
it with the kids and they immediately said,

4173
02:24:04,760 --> 02:24:07,940
you know, our toffees are very butter heavy.

4174
02:24:10,020 --> 02:24:12,560
And they don't keep as long as you

4175
02:24:12,560 --> 02:24:12,880
think.

4176
02:24:12,880 --> 02:24:14,300
So you got to put them in the

4177
02:24:14,300 --> 02:24:16,640
in the freezer or in the fridge.

4178
02:24:16,700 --> 02:24:18,560
And just a good tip is a very

4179
02:24:18,560 --> 02:24:19,020
good tip.

4180
02:24:19,040 --> 02:24:21,040
And just in case they said, go to

4181
02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:22,320
your box on Saturday.

4182
02:24:22,380 --> 02:24:23,740
We've got more coming for you.

4183
02:24:23,740 --> 02:24:26,300
I love these people at Little John's Candies.

4184
02:24:26,820 --> 02:24:28,440
You've got karma.

4185
02:24:32,140 --> 02:24:34,560
Gwen Sobieski is in Kettering, Ohio.

4186
02:24:35,200 --> 02:24:37,180
And Gwen sends us a row of ducks

4187
02:24:37,180 --> 02:24:39,460
to to to dot to to and has

4188
02:24:39,460 --> 02:24:41,120
a note in the morning.

4189
02:24:41,200 --> 02:24:42,420
Gentlemen, this is a written note.

4190
02:24:42,860 --> 02:24:44,460
This row of ducks is a birthday, December

4191
02:24:44,460 --> 02:24:47,060
10th donation for my sister, Beth Booz Johnson.

4192
02:24:47,480 --> 02:24:48,800
She hit me in the mouth about five

4193
02:24:48,800 --> 02:24:50,140
years ago, and I love it.

4194
02:24:50,700 --> 02:24:52,620
She and I walk together most days and

4195
02:24:52,620 --> 02:24:54,240
usually discuss the latest shows.

4196
02:24:54,400 --> 02:24:57,220
We find your analysis spot on and very

4197
02:24:57,220 --> 02:24:57,600
helpful.

4198
02:24:58,240 --> 02:25:00,460
She is a regular donor, so no deducing

4199
02:25:00,460 --> 02:25:00,780
needed.

4200
02:25:00,920 --> 02:25:02,640
But they always give me a biscuit on

4201
02:25:02,640 --> 02:25:04,460
my birthday and shut up, slave.

4202
02:25:06,460 --> 02:25:07,520
Would be welcome.

4203
02:25:07,680 --> 02:25:08,620
God bless you both.

4204
02:25:08,720 --> 02:25:09,860
Thank you for your courage.

4205
02:25:09,960 --> 02:25:13,120
Peace and joy from Gwen Sobieski.

4206
02:25:13,640 --> 02:25:15,840
They always give me a biscuit on my

4207
02:25:15,840 --> 02:25:16,340
birthday.

4208
02:25:16,560 --> 02:25:17,760
Shut up, slave.

4209
02:25:18,300 --> 02:25:19,240
There you go, Gwen.

4210
02:25:19,240 --> 02:25:20,340
Thank you very much.

4211
02:25:20,420 --> 02:25:26,520
I think that was Gwen Sobieski, not go

4212
02:25:26,520 --> 02:25:26,840
biscuit.

4213
02:25:27,360 --> 02:25:28,180
Oh, I'm sorry.

4214
02:25:28,460 --> 02:25:28,860
Sobieski.

4215
02:25:29,020 --> 02:25:29,420
Sobieski.

4216
02:25:29,600 --> 02:25:29,780
Yes.

4217
02:25:29,920 --> 02:25:30,700
Gwen Sobieski.

4218
02:25:30,780 --> 02:25:32,360
It was cut off on the note.

4219
02:25:32,440 --> 02:25:33,140
I was reading it.

4220
02:25:33,280 --> 02:25:33,820
Couldn't see it.

4221
02:25:34,120 --> 02:25:34,380
Yes.

4222
02:25:34,440 --> 02:25:34,860
Thank you.

4223
02:25:35,100 --> 02:25:36,260
Eli, the coffee guy.

4224
02:25:36,440 --> 02:25:37,480
He's up already.

4225
02:25:38,000 --> 02:25:39,780
Bensonville, Illinois, 2-12-12.

4226
02:25:43,580 --> 02:25:45,160
It's the 11th, 12th.

4227
02:25:45,240 --> 02:25:45,840
Today's the 12th.

4228
02:25:45,880 --> 02:25:47,000
No, it's the 12th, man.

4229
02:25:47,020 --> 02:25:47,820
I don't care what you say.

4230
02:25:47,880 --> 02:25:49,500
Even Eli, the coffee guy, knows it.

4231
02:25:49,600 --> 02:25:50,260
It's the 12th.

4232
02:25:50,260 --> 02:25:52,440
It's the final stretch before Christmas, and plenty

4233
02:25:52,440 --> 02:25:54,900
of us are still doing the last minute

4234
02:25:54,900 --> 02:25:55,400
shuffle.

4235
02:25:56,100 --> 02:25:56,800
No worries.

4236
02:25:56,980 --> 02:25:57,900
Gigawatt's got your back.

4237
02:25:57,960 --> 02:26:00,540
We're running a sampler pack sale this weekend,

4238
02:26:00,680 --> 02:26:01,840
which should be a good idea, because you

4239
02:26:01,840 --> 02:26:03,420
can get a good sense of things.

4240
02:26:04,140 --> 02:26:05,540
So if you need a gift that won't

4241
02:26:05,540 --> 02:26:08,860
end up in the re-gift pile, you

4242
02:26:08,860 --> 02:26:12,240
don't want to keep coffee forever, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters

4243
02:26:12,240 --> 02:26:14,360
.com and give the gift of fresh roasted

4244
02:26:14,360 --> 02:26:16,560
coffee to someone or yourself today.

4245
02:26:16,800 --> 02:26:18,980
Stay caffeinated, Eli, the coffee guy.

4246
02:26:18,980 --> 02:26:22,740
I think some gigawatt coffee will be great

4247
02:26:22,740 --> 02:26:24,160
as a white elephant gift.

4248
02:26:24,940 --> 02:26:28,320
You know, the white elephant gift where everybody

4249
02:26:28,320 --> 02:26:31,740
brings a gift and then you just take

4250
02:26:31,740 --> 02:26:31,980
one?

4251
02:26:33,220 --> 02:26:34,960
Is there a white elephant involved?

4252
02:26:35,840 --> 02:26:37,440
You clearly don't get out.

4253
02:26:37,920 --> 02:26:39,840
You don't have any friends for a white

4254
02:26:39,840 --> 02:26:41,180
elephant gift-giving party?

4255
02:26:41,740 --> 02:26:44,120
I haven't seen a white elephant gift-giving

4256
02:26:44,120 --> 02:26:46,560
party my entire life, even when I got

4257
02:26:46,560 --> 02:26:47,000
out.

4258
02:26:49,140 --> 02:26:50,600
And we're winding it up.

4259
02:26:50,720 --> 02:26:53,880
Our final associate executive producer, $200, Linda Lou

4260
02:26:53,880 --> 02:26:55,720
Patkin from Castle Rock, Colorado.

4261
02:26:55,880 --> 02:26:57,920
We still don't know if she moved, but

4262
02:26:57,920 --> 02:26:59,100
that's where she's from now.

4263
02:26:59,340 --> 02:27:01,340
And she wants jobs karma and says, hey,

4264
02:27:01,580 --> 02:27:03,320
why don't you give the gift of a

4265
02:27:03,320 --> 02:27:05,140
resume that gets results this Christmas?

4266
02:27:05,560 --> 02:27:07,640
Go to imagemakersinc.com for all of your

4267
02:27:07,640 --> 02:27:09,760
executive resume and job search needs.

4268
02:27:10,200 --> 02:27:11,800
That's imagemakersinc with a K.

4269
02:27:11,940 --> 02:27:12,860
And work with Linda Lou.

4270
02:27:12,980 --> 02:27:15,680
She is the Duchess of Jobs and writer

4271
02:27:15,680 --> 02:27:17,100
of winning resumes.

4272
02:27:17,100 --> 02:27:18,880
Oh, and P.S., here it is.

4273
02:27:19,420 --> 02:27:22,140
I moved to Castle Rock because the loony

4274
02:27:22,140 --> 02:27:25,440
left policies of Denver were creeping into Lakewood.

4275
02:27:26,280 --> 02:27:26,720
See?

4276
02:27:27,060 --> 02:27:28,460
This is what you should take to heart,

4277
02:27:28,580 --> 02:27:28,760
John.

4278
02:27:29,200 --> 02:27:30,680
She knows when it's time to move.

4279
02:27:30,800 --> 02:27:33,520
Linda Lou, the Duchess of Jobs and writer

4280
02:27:33,520 --> 02:27:34,320
of winning resumes.

4281
02:27:34,580 --> 02:27:37,240
She moved and you're just sticking it out

4282
02:27:37,240 --> 02:27:37,920
close to the fire.

4283
02:27:38,040 --> 02:27:41,180
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

4284
02:27:41,360 --> 02:27:42,840
Let's vote for jobs.

4285
02:27:43,940 --> 02:27:44,820
Nikka, karma.

4286
02:27:47,340 --> 02:27:48,980
Well, that wraps- I find this protective

4287
02:27:48,980 --> 02:27:50,480
to be around a loony left.

4288
02:27:52,340 --> 02:27:54,840
Yeah, well, they have masks on, so you

4289
02:27:54,840 --> 02:27:55,340
won't get sick.

4290
02:27:55,340 --> 02:27:57,140
You don't have to worry about catching anything.

4291
02:27:57,220 --> 02:27:58,680
Or even looking at their faces.

4292
02:27:58,920 --> 02:27:59,680
Yeah, that's pretty good.

4293
02:28:00,420 --> 02:28:01,920
Thank you very much to the executive and

4294
02:28:01,920 --> 02:28:05,560
associate executive producers for episode 1,824, the

4295
02:28:05,560 --> 02:28:06,780
best podcast in the universe.

4296
02:28:07,180 --> 02:28:09,960
Please go to imdb.com, enter that information

4297
02:28:09,960 --> 02:28:11,840
and have a link to the show notes

4298
02:28:11,840 --> 02:28:13,480
because we always put it there proudly.

4299
02:28:14,140 --> 02:28:15,600
And thank you for supporting the show.

4300
02:28:15,720 --> 02:28:18,200
Thank you to our Rubbalizer, our Instant Knights,

4301
02:28:18,420 --> 02:28:20,860
and Peace Prize awardees.

4302
02:28:20,920 --> 02:28:21,980
It is very much appreciated.

4303
02:28:22,100 --> 02:28:24,200
We'll be thanking $50 and above the rest

4304
02:28:24,200 --> 02:28:25,600
of our producers in the second segment.

4305
02:28:25,940 --> 02:28:28,460
Once again, congratulations and thank you for supporting

4306
02:28:28,460 --> 02:28:29,940
the No Agenda Show.

4307
02:28:30,180 --> 02:28:31,520
Our formula is this.

4308
02:28:32,320 --> 02:28:34,620
We go out, we hit people in the

4309
02:28:34,620 --> 02:28:34,820
mouth.

4310
02:28:41,920 --> 02:28:42,500
Order.

4311
02:28:43,140 --> 02:28:44,540
Shut up, slaves.

4312
02:28:45,460 --> 02:28:47,340
Shut up, slaves.

4313
02:28:49,160 --> 02:28:53,740
I had Bobby the Op has been out

4314
02:28:53,740 --> 02:28:57,280
and about making a ma-ha, ma-ha,

4315
02:28:57,440 --> 02:28:59,000
making America healthy again.

4316
02:29:00,400 --> 02:29:03,380
And it's very interesting, the things he's saying,

4317
02:29:03,460 --> 02:29:04,300
the things he's doing.

4318
02:29:04,880 --> 02:29:07,500
He really wants to change airport food, which

4319
02:29:07,500 --> 02:29:09,160
I thought was rather amusing.

4320
02:29:09,540 --> 02:29:10,920
Not just airport food.

4321
02:29:10,920 --> 02:29:14,020
I fly typically over the past 30 years,

4322
02:29:14,180 --> 02:29:18,780
probably average 250 days a year in airports.

4323
02:29:18,980 --> 02:29:21,780
And I can tell you that this is

4324
02:29:21,780 --> 02:29:23,700
where healthy diets go to die.

4325
02:29:24,700 --> 02:29:27,000
The food that's available at the airport, a

4326
02:29:27,000 --> 02:29:29,340
lot of it tastes very good, but it's

4327
02:29:29,340 --> 02:29:30,740
not very good for you.

4328
02:29:30,820 --> 02:29:31,940
It's deep fried food.

4329
02:29:32,580 --> 02:29:33,640
It's sugar bombs.

4330
02:29:33,940 --> 02:29:35,660
It's ultra processed foods.

4331
02:29:36,400 --> 02:29:38,000
And all of them are going to leave

4332
02:29:38,000 --> 02:29:39,960
you sicker than before you ate them.

4333
02:29:40,520 --> 02:29:43,280
And one of the things that Secretary Duffy

4334
02:29:43,280 --> 02:29:46,860
is encouraging these airports to do is to

4335
02:29:46,860 --> 02:29:48,800
open up new options like the one you

4336
02:29:48,800 --> 02:29:51,800
see behind you, Farmer's Fridge, is the availability

4337
02:29:51,800 --> 02:29:56,300
of nursing spaces, nursing pods, nursing rooms.

4338
02:29:59,320 --> 02:30:02,520
All of the ingenuity of corporate America, all

4339
02:30:02,520 --> 02:30:07,740
the resources, all the resourcefulness has not produced

4340
02:30:07,740 --> 02:30:12,400
an infant formula that is superior in nutrition

4341
02:30:12,400 --> 02:30:15,460
and all the qualities that we want to

4342
02:30:15,460 --> 02:30:18,320
the infant formula that God made, which is

4343
02:30:18,320 --> 02:30:20,280
the infant formula in a mother's breast.

4344
02:30:20,680 --> 02:30:24,840
We at HHS are encouraging mothers to breastfeed

4345
02:30:24,840 --> 02:30:27,960
as long as possible, because there is no

4346
02:30:27,960 --> 02:30:31,220
better food for your brain, for your gut

4347
02:30:31,220 --> 02:30:35,220
microbiome, for your physical growth, for your emotional

4348
02:30:35,220 --> 02:30:39,080
growth, than what's in God given breast milk.

4349
02:30:39,880 --> 02:30:40,420
I don't know.

4350
02:30:40,640 --> 02:30:41,720
So wait, let me get this straight.

4351
02:30:41,800 --> 02:30:43,280
So they're going to change the airport food

4352
02:30:43,280 --> 02:30:44,260
to mother's milk.

4353
02:30:44,360 --> 02:30:44,860
Is that right?

4354
02:30:44,940 --> 02:30:48,680
Yeah, I think it was very strange combination

4355
02:30:48,680 --> 02:30:50,880
that he one two punch he had there.

4356
02:30:51,420 --> 02:30:53,520
And then he also was doing pull ups.

4357
02:30:54,340 --> 02:30:56,400
So I miss I miss the pull ups.

4358
02:30:56,660 --> 02:30:58,540
Oh, no, he's going to watch gyms in

4359
02:30:58,540 --> 02:30:59,700
the in the airport.

4360
02:31:00,180 --> 02:31:00,620
Yeah.

4361
02:31:01,040 --> 02:31:04,800
And so he him and Duffy, I guess

4362
02:31:04,800 --> 02:31:05,340
it's Duffy.

4363
02:31:05,680 --> 02:31:07,660
We're they're doing pull ups and Duffy can

4364
02:31:07,660 --> 02:31:09,380
do pull ups better than Kennedy.

4365
02:31:09,560 --> 02:31:10,180
It's kind of funny.

4366
02:31:10,320 --> 02:31:11,360
I never thought of that.

4367
02:31:11,540 --> 02:31:12,080
Well, he was.

4368
02:31:12,620 --> 02:31:14,700
But they're doing these pull ups in Kennedy

4369
02:31:14,700 --> 02:31:15,640
as he's doing him.

4370
02:31:16,000 --> 02:31:17,600
He's you know, he's got he's wearing a

4371
02:31:17,600 --> 02:31:19,420
he's dressed the hilt, of course.

4372
02:31:19,520 --> 02:31:21,680
He's always fully dressed when he does exercise.

4373
02:31:22,000 --> 02:31:24,420
And these armpits were all soaked.

4374
02:31:24,560 --> 02:31:27,520
So I'm so I'm to understand that you're

4375
02:31:27,520 --> 02:31:29,480
going to have people work out just before

4376
02:31:29,480 --> 02:31:30,180
they get on a plane.

4377
02:31:30,180 --> 02:31:32,620
So they stink to high heaven when they

4378
02:31:32,620 --> 02:31:33,380
sit next to you.

4379
02:31:33,380 --> 02:31:34,640
This is not a good idea.

4380
02:31:35,820 --> 02:31:38,680
Well, I wasn't sure what to make of

4381
02:31:38,680 --> 02:31:39,220
it myself.

4382
02:31:39,520 --> 02:31:42,020
I mean, he went from Cinnabons to to

4383
02:31:42,020 --> 02:31:42,600
breast milk.

4384
02:31:42,760 --> 02:31:43,820
It was just it was a bit, you

4385
02:31:43,820 --> 02:31:46,220
know, the San Francisco Airport, for example.

4386
02:31:46,400 --> 02:31:48,060
I don't know if he flies anything but

4387
02:31:48,060 --> 02:31:51,680
private because most airports, big airports, they have

4388
02:31:51,680 --> 02:31:53,220
a food court that has a lot of

4389
02:31:53,220 --> 02:31:56,980
good food in it, not just processed crap.

4390
02:31:59,400 --> 02:32:02,020
Well, another reason to stay in California.

4391
02:32:02,640 --> 02:32:04,300
The airport food is delightful.

4392
02:32:05,020 --> 02:32:05,980
It's not bad.

4393
02:32:05,980 --> 02:32:07,480
I'm telling you, the San Francisco has got

4394
02:32:07,480 --> 02:32:10,000
a couple of Chinese restaurants, his airport food.

4395
02:32:10,160 --> 02:32:11,260
It's not I got it.

4396
02:32:11,280 --> 02:32:11,720
I get it.

4397
02:32:11,820 --> 02:32:12,600
Ask him for you.

4398
02:32:12,720 --> 02:32:14,180
Now, wait, I want to finish with my

4399
02:32:14,180 --> 02:32:16,180
second Bobby the op clip because, oh, Bobby,

4400
02:32:16,280 --> 02:32:18,680
still he said something that we all knew.

4401
02:32:18,840 --> 02:32:19,960
But now he says it.

4402
02:32:20,020 --> 02:32:21,580
So now people are, oh, really?

4403
02:32:21,800 --> 02:32:22,860
There's a chemical.

4404
02:32:23,000 --> 02:32:26,100
Now, the second most used chemical in this

4405
02:32:26,100 --> 02:32:28,460
country and pesticide in this country is atrazine.

4406
02:32:28,540 --> 02:32:30,660
It's banned in Europe and all over the

4407
02:32:30,660 --> 02:32:30,900
world.

4408
02:32:30,940 --> 02:32:31,820
But we use it here.

4409
02:32:31,860 --> 02:32:33,900
It's in 63 percent of our drinking water.

4410
02:32:34,360 --> 02:32:37,280
There's a famous African-American scientist named Tyler

4411
02:32:37,280 --> 02:32:39,680
Hayes, who's at the University of Berkeley.

4412
02:32:39,960 --> 02:32:41,460
He did a famous experiment.

4413
02:32:41,820 --> 02:32:43,100
There is no such thing up on the

4414
02:32:43,100 --> 02:32:43,460
Internet.

4415
02:32:43,780 --> 02:32:44,900
There's no such thing as what?

4416
02:32:45,540 --> 02:32:46,900
University of Berkeley.

4417
02:32:48,480 --> 02:32:50,400
OK, but I thought it was interesting.

4418
02:32:50,480 --> 02:32:52,020
He had to say it was African-American.

4419
02:32:52,220 --> 02:32:53,700
How about there's an American scientist?

4420
02:32:54,160 --> 02:32:57,020
But OK, there's a famous African-American scientist

4421
02:32:57,020 --> 02:32:58,020
named Tyler Hayes.

4422
02:32:58,460 --> 02:32:59,400
It's unnecessary.

4423
02:33:00,200 --> 02:33:01,500
That's his background as a Democrat.

4424
02:33:01,820 --> 02:33:04,840
Yes, there's there's the Democrat coming out.

4425
02:33:04,840 --> 02:33:07,640
Hey, man, I'm virtue signaling to y'all.

4426
02:33:07,820 --> 02:33:09,140
He's African-American, OK?

4427
02:33:09,480 --> 02:33:10,980
Who's at the University of Berkeley?

4428
02:33:11,400 --> 02:33:13,700
He did a famous experiment that anybody can

4429
02:33:13,700 --> 02:33:14,780
look up on the Internet.

4430
02:33:15,380 --> 02:33:19,620
He put 70 African water frogs in an

4431
02:33:19,620 --> 02:33:20,040
aquarium.

4432
02:33:20,640 --> 02:33:22,900
He put atrazine in the water of that

4433
02:33:22,900 --> 02:33:23,320
aquarium.

4434
02:33:23,440 --> 02:33:25,660
There was less than EPA's level.

4435
02:33:25,820 --> 02:33:28,340
So it's less than the levels we have

4436
02:33:28,340 --> 02:33:30,180
in 63 percent of our water supply.

4437
02:33:31,020 --> 02:33:33,840
60 of those frogs became sterile.

4438
02:33:33,840 --> 02:33:34,820
They're all male frogs.

4439
02:33:35,120 --> 02:33:36,340
60 became sterile.

4440
02:33:37,340 --> 02:33:40,980
10 percent of those frogs turned female and

4441
02:33:40,980 --> 02:33:43,220
they were able to produce frogs for eggs.

4442
02:33:43,700 --> 02:33:45,420
So it changed their sex.

4443
02:33:45,720 --> 02:33:48,740
And of course, normally, you know, when you

4444
02:33:48,740 --> 02:33:50,860
see something like that in an animal model,

4445
02:33:51,180 --> 02:33:52,720
the first thing you want to do is

4446
02:33:52,720 --> 02:33:55,700
test it in a mammalian model and a

4447
02:33:55,700 --> 02:33:56,340
human model.

4448
02:33:57,240 --> 02:33:58,380
Those tests were never done.

4449
02:33:58,740 --> 02:34:00,340
I don't like them putting chemicals in the

4450
02:34:00,340 --> 02:34:02,780
water that turn the friggin frogs gay.

4451
02:34:02,780 --> 02:34:06,340
We actually had the clip at least 10

4452
02:34:06,340 --> 02:34:09,140
years ago of that professor at Cal Berkeley

4453
02:34:10,260 --> 02:34:13,180
on this show discussing this in great detail

4454
02:34:13,180 --> 02:34:15,200
because he was on the Amy Goodman show

4455
02:34:15,940 --> 02:34:17,280
telling us about this.

4456
02:34:17,340 --> 02:34:18,660
And it was over a decade ago.

4457
02:34:20,240 --> 02:34:21,480
Yeah, you can look it up.

4458
02:34:21,560 --> 02:34:23,040
I mean, if you look up atrazine in

4459
02:34:23,040 --> 02:34:24,860
your database, you'll probably find it.

4460
02:34:25,000 --> 02:34:26,380
I have 2017.

4461
02:34:30,240 --> 02:34:32,860
I don't know who that was.

4462
02:34:33,360 --> 02:34:37,160
Say this was the gender bending nature of

4463
02:34:37,160 --> 02:34:39,220
this drug, atrazine nailed it.

4464
02:34:39,600 --> 02:34:41,800
Well, initially, we found that the larynx of

4465
02:34:41,800 --> 02:34:44,540
the voice box in exposed males didn't grow

4466
02:34:44,540 --> 02:34:45,020
properly.

4467
02:34:45,280 --> 02:34:47,780
Oh, there's Bobby right there.

4468
02:34:48,320 --> 02:34:50,460
His voice box didn't grow properly because of

4469
02:34:50,460 --> 02:34:53,180
the frogs that were the water he's drinking.

4470
02:34:53,460 --> 02:34:55,360
You know, this is an old clip from

4471
02:34:55,360 --> 02:34:56,180
a decade ago.

4472
02:34:56,960 --> 02:34:59,640
It may now that you play it, it's

4473
02:34:59,640 --> 02:35:02,560
got new information, new information, man.

4474
02:35:02,780 --> 02:35:04,560
And this was an indication that the male

4475
02:35:04,560 --> 02:35:08,240
hormone testosterone was not being produced at appropriate

4476
02:35:08,240 --> 02:35:08,660
levels.

4477
02:35:09,160 --> 02:35:11,280
And eventually we found that not only did

4478
02:35:11,280 --> 02:35:15,100
where these males demasculinized or chemically castrated, but

4479
02:35:15,100 --> 02:35:18,140
they also were starting to develop ovaries or

4480
02:35:18,140 --> 02:35:19,260
starting to develop eggs.

4481
02:35:19,380 --> 02:35:22,160
And eventually we discovered that these males didn't

4482
02:35:22,160 --> 02:35:24,720
breed properly, that some of the males actually

4483
02:35:24,720 --> 02:35:26,240
completely turned into females.

4484
02:35:26,720 --> 02:35:28,220
So we had genetic males that were laying

4485
02:35:28,220 --> 02:35:29,940
eggs and reproducing as females.

4486
02:35:30,340 --> 02:35:31,920
And now we're starting to show that some

4487
02:35:31,920 --> 02:35:34,720
of these males actually show, I guess what

4488
02:35:34,720 --> 02:35:36,100
we call homosexual behavior.

4489
02:35:36,100 --> 02:35:39,020
They actually prefer to mate with other males.

4490
02:35:39,200 --> 02:35:41,360
And left that out, Bobby the op, you

4491
02:35:41,360 --> 02:35:42,680
left out the gay part.

4492
02:35:43,680 --> 02:35:44,660
Very important.

4493
02:35:45,620 --> 02:35:47,660
I'm glad you called for that, John.

4494
02:35:48,020 --> 02:35:50,240
And our fantastic sister.

4495
02:35:50,400 --> 02:35:51,700
In our ridiculous archives.

4496
02:35:52,000 --> 02:35:53,120
Pulled it up right away.

4497
02:35:53,860 --> 02:35:55,160
That is the truth.

4498
02:35:55,260 --> 02:35:58,220
From the man himself, the African-American scientist.

4499
02:35:59,160 --> 02:36:00,040
Yeah, wow.

4500
02:36:00,620 --> 02:36:02,720
Too bad it was Amy Goodman, but otherwise

4501
02:36:02,720 --> 02:36:03,780
dynamite.

4502
02:36:03,840 --> 02:36:05,300
Nobody else would put the guy on.

4503
02:36:05,760 --> 02:36:07,480
Yeah, that's the real problem.

4504
02:36:07,580 --> 02:36:10,000
You get Amy Goodman gets credit for stuff

4505
02:36:10,000 --> 02:36:11,960
she shouldn't get credit for because the rest

4506
02:36:11,960 --> 02:36:13,560
of the media is so damned lazy.

4507
02:36:13,820 --> 02:36:15,520
Yeah, so I have a couple.

4508
02:36:15,740 --> 02:36:16,540
Well, I don't.

4509
02:36:16,600 --> 02:36:19,140
I do have a ask Adam, but you

4510
02:36:19,140 --> 02:36:19,760
already got this.

4511
02:36:19,900 --> 02:36:20,980
You already had a failed.

4512
02:36:21,060 --> 02:36:22,580
Now I know that was a botch.

4513
02:36:22,960 --> 02:36:24,040
It was a botch.

4514
02:36:24,040 --> 02:36:27,300
What was Pornhub's most searched term of 2025

4515
02:36:27,300 --> 02:36:28,620
in the United States?

4516
02:36:29,740 --> 02:36:30,540
Oh, let me.

4517
02:36:30,620 --> 02:36:31,460
I'm not looking it up.

4518
02:36:31,520 --> 02:36:32,960
I'm literally just trying to think.

4519
02:36:33,420 --> 02:36:36,340
Pornhub's most searched term.

4520
02:36:38,260 --> 02:36:39,720
So we're pretty.

4521
02:36:39,740 --> 02:36:42,220
We're pretty degenerate here in America.

4522
02:36:43,100 --> 02:36:45,860
I would say midget porn.

4523
02:36:47,040 --> 02:36:47,680
Lesbian.

4524
02:36:48,280 --> 02:36:48,780
Really?

4525
02:36:49,600 --> 02:36:50,800
Yeah, lesbian is number one.

4526
02:36:50,800 --> 02:36:51,840
Worldwide.

4527
02:36:52,280 --> 02:36:53,600
It was hentai.

4528
02:36:54,680 --> 02:36:55,280
Hentai?

4529
02:36:55,900 --> 02:36:57,420
Yeah, anime porn.

4530
02:36:58,880 --> 02:37:02,720
Followed by MILF, PNA, which is a Filipino.

4531
02:37:03,540 --> 02:37:06,260
Lesbian is like fourth on the national international

4532
02:37:06,260 --> 02:37:07,420
list and anal.

4533
02:37:08,380 --> 02:37:09,980
And here's an interesting little point.

4534
02:37:10,960 --> 02:37:13,080
Yeah, this is stuff we need to know.

4535
02:37:13,120 --> 02:37:14,860
This is very important information.

4536
02:37:15,260 --> 02:37:17,080
Now on the search, this is a very

4537
02:37:17,080 --> 02:37:17,920
interesting part.

4538
02:37:19,240 --> 02:37:22,060
SFW, not safe for work content, is somehow

4539
02:37:22,060 --> 02:37:25,840
increasing on the very much not safe for

4540
02:37:25,840 --> 02:37:27,140
work Pornhub.

4541
02:37:27,960 --> 02:37:33,180
SFW ASMR is up 56%, for example.

4542
02:37:34,160 --> 02:37:39,120
Meanwhile, the podcast category has soared 327%.

4543
02:37:39,740 --> 02:37:41,940
The podcast category of what?

4544
02:37:42,460 --> 02:37:42,860
Search.

4545
02:37:42,920 --> 02:37:45,440
They search for podcasts on Pornhub.

4546
02:37:46,040 --> 02:37:46,960
They're looking for porn.

4547
02:37:46,960 --> 02:37:48,660
This is an opportunity here.

4548
02:37:48,840 --> 02:37:50,600
Let me see.

4549
02:37:50,680 --> 02:37:51,880
First, let me see if we're even on

4550
02:37:51,880 --> 02:37:52,760
Spotify yet.

4551
02:37:52,900 --> 02:37:54,840
We've been tracking this for a week and

4552
02:37:54,840 --> 02:37:55,240
a half.

4553
02:37:57,220 --> 02:37:59,020
And let's see.

4554
02:37:59,400 --> 02:38:04,040
I'm logging into creators.spotify.com and it's

4555
02:38:04,040 --> 02:38:05,560
thinking about it.

4556
02:38:05,920 --> 02:38:11,160
And wow, they deleted my entire entry.

4557
02:38:12,520 --> 02:38:12,860
What?

4558
02:38:13,180 --> 02:38:13,440
Yeah.

4559
02:38:14,540 --> 02:38:16,800
That's because you've been badmouthing them for years

4560
02:38:16,800 --> 02:38:17,220
and years.

4561
02:38:17,900 --> 02:38:20,880
There's probably a non-disparagement clause in their

4562
02:38:20,880 --> 02:38:21,560
contract.

4563
02:38:22,200 --> 02:38:25,240
Oh man, they're like, no, no, you can't

4564
02:38:25,240 --> 02:38:26,760
upload this podcast.

4565
02:38:27,880 --> 02:38:29,540
After they were stealing it?

4566
02:38:29,740 --> 02:38:29,920
Yeah.

4567
02:38:30,060 --> 02:38:31,800
How do we upload to Pornhub?

4568
02:38:33,360 --> 02:38:35,860
We need to upload the podcast to Pornhub.

4569
02:38:36,960 --> 02:38:37,640
There we go.

4570
02:38:38,280 --> 02:38:39,460
It's up 327.

4571
02:38:39,540 --> 02:38:41,020
There's got to be people asking for podcasts.

4572
02:38:41,020 --> 02:38:42,040
We've got to be there.

4573
02:38:43,640 --> 02:38:44,600
Imagine that.

4574
02:38:45,430 --> 02:38:49,080
The hot new place for podcasts is Pornhub.

4575
02:38:49,600 --> 02:38:51,680
By the way, I should probably play this

4576
02:38:51,680 --> 02:38:53,780
since we're talking about hot new podcasts.

4577
02:38:54,020 --> 02:38:56,140
Award season is in full swing.

4578
02:38:56,320 --> 02:38:58,860
And this morning, we now know who's nominated

4579
02:38:58,860 --> 02:39:00,100
for a Golden Globe.

4580
02:39:00,180 --> 02:39:02,540
But for the first time, we now know

4581
02:39:02,540 --> 02:39:04,540
which podcasts are nominated.

4582
02:39:04,640 --> 02:39:05,200
Podcast.

4583
02:39:05,740 --> 02:39:06,900
Oh, the podcast.

4584
02:39:07,600 --> 02:39:08,520
Best podcast.

4585
02:39:09,180 --> 02:39:10,660
Armchair expert with Dax Shepard.

4586
02:39:10,920 --> 02:39:11,340
Wandering.

4587
02:39:12,840 --> 02:39:13,740
Caller Daddy.

4588
02:39:13,740 --> 02:39:15,080
Sirius XM.

4589
02:39:15,300 --> 02:39:16,260
Caller Daddy.

4590
02:39:16,320 --> 02:39:17,640
Good Hang with Amy Poehler.

4591
02:39:17,800 --> 02:39:18,360
Spotify.

4592
02:39:19,860 --> 02:39:21,100
The Mel Robbins Podcast.

4593
02:39:21,360 --> 02:39:22,020
Sirius XM.

4594
02:39:23,080 --> 02:39:23,900
Smart List.

4595
02:39:24,300 --> 02:39:24,900
Sirius XM.

4596
02:39:26,180 --> 02:39:27,140
Up First.

4597
02:39:27,400 --> 02:39:27,840
NPR.

4598
02:39:28,600 --> 02:39:30,120
Okay, so those are some big names and

4599
02:39:30,120 --> 02:39:30,780
big podcasts.

4600
02:39:30,940 --> 02:39:33,800
Worth noting, Smart List, which includes host Jason

4601
02:39:33,800 --> 02:39:35,620
Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett.

4602
02:39:36,020 --> 02:39:38,860
Well, Will's ex-wife is Amy Poehler.

4603
02:39:39,460 --> 02:39:40,600
So they're in the same category.

4604
02:39:40,600 --> 02:39:41,360
Oh, wow.

4605
02:39:41,360 --> 02:39:42,320
Two sons.

4606
02:39:42,640 --> 02:39:45,020
So it could be a little friendly competition.

4607
02:39:45,260 --> 02:39:47,060
Now, I'm going to just say this, because

4608
02:39:47,060 --> 02:39:49,120
I've already seen articles, and I've already seen

4609
02:39:49,120 --> 02:39:50,720
comments on social media.

4610
02:39:51,020 --> 02:39:53,560
And people are saying- You already know.

4611
02:39:53,620 --> 02:39:54,360
You already know.

4612
02:39:54,460 --> 02:39:57,420
Why did Joe Rogan's podcast not get nominated?

4613
02:39:57,420 --> 02:39:58,420
That's the elephant in the room.

4614
02:39:58,440 --> 02:39:59,920
It's the number one podcast to listen to.

4615
02:39:59,980 --> 02:40:02,260
You and I, and a lot of people

4616
02:40:02,260 --> 02:40:04,980
in the industry know firsthand, you have to

4617
02:40:04,980 --> 02:40:05,960
submit your podcast.

4618
02:40:05,960 --> 02:40:07,580
It's called for consideration.

4619
02:40:07,900 --> 02:40:09,840
If Joe Rogan and his team did not

4620
02:40:09,840 --> 02:40:12,200
want to submit their podcast, they wouldn't have

4621
02:40:12,200 --> 02:40:12,880
been nominated.

4622
02:40:13,740 --> 02:40:14,200
$500.

4623
02:40:15,800 --> 02:40:16,260
What?

4624
02:40:16,640 --> 02:40:16,920
Yep.

4625
02:40:17,920 --> 02:40:18,380
$500.

4626
02:40:19,000 --> 02:40:20,260
Another scam award.

4627
02:40:20,680 --> 02:40:22,360
Well, you know, I'm still waiting for you

4628
02:40:22,360 --> 02:40:23,040
to set it up.

4629
02:40:23,200 --> 02:40:25,920
You know, I said, I'm good to go.

4630
02:40:26,000 --> 02:40:27,240
The podcast awards.

4631
02:40:28,640 --> 02:40:29,560
Yeah, okay.

4632
02:40:29,980 --> 02:40:30,280
Yeah.

4633
02:40:30,900 --> 02:40:32,840
What else- One reminder's all I'll need.

4634
02:40:33,620 --> 02:40:35,040
What else are you going to do with

4635
02:40:35,040 --> 02:40:35,520
your time?

4636
02:40:36,200 --> 02:40:37,960
Well, apparently, I'm not going to go out

4637
02:40:37,960 --> 02:40:38,420
shopping.

4638
02:40:39,760 --> 02:40:41,380
Watch this in 3D.

4639
02:40:42,160 --> 02:40:45,020
I got a clip here of, well, by

4640
02:40:45,020 --> 02:40:46,660
the way, since you're talking about entertainment, you

4641
02:40:46,660 --> 02:40:48,200
might as well play this, which is the

4642
02:40:48,200 --> 02:40:55,040
Iceland boycott of your favorite event.

4643
02:40:55,280 --> 02:40:57,060
Oh, yes, of course.

4644
02:40:57,200 --> 02:41:01,000
Iceland has joined four other European countries boycotting

4645
02:41:01,000 --> 02:41:04,360
next year's Eurovision song contest because of Israel's

4646
02:41:04,360 --> 02:41:05,040
participation.

4647
02:41:05,760 --> 02:41:09,680
The Icelandic National Broadcasting Service said the European

4648
02:41:09,680 --> 02:41:13,840
Broadcasting Union's decision last week to greenlight Israel

4649
02:41:13,840 --> 02:41:16,340
had damaged the contest's reputation.

4650
02:41:17,100 --> 02:41:18,860
Yeah, it turns out there's a little bit

4651
02:41:18,860 --> 02:41:19,480
more to it.

4652
02:41:19,560 --> 02:41:24,300
This is the divest, boycott, divest, and what

4653
02:41:24,300 --> 02:41:24,940
is it?

4654
02:41:25,220 --> 02:41:27,780
Boycott, divest, sell or something.

4655
02:41:27,840 --> 02:41:30,360
Boycott, divest something.

4656
02:41:30,900 --> 02:41:34,540
These are all countries whose governments are still

4657
02:41:34,540 --> 02:41:37,680
buying Israeli military technology.

4658
02:41:37,680 --> 02:41:39,240
So it's coordinated.

4659
02:41:40,580 --> 02:41:43,260
It's coordinated against the governments.

4660
02:41:43,880 --> 02:41:46,840
The whole thing is dubious because you have

4661
02:41:46,840 --> 02:41:48,100
Iceland.

4662
02:41:48,240 --> 02:41:50,580
What has Iceland got to do with anything

4663
02:41:50,580 --> 02:41:53,340
going on in the Middle East, one way

4664
02:41:53,340 --> 02:41:54,140
or the other?

4665
02:41:55,620 --> 02:41:57,160
Nothing, that's what.

4666
02:41:57,240 --> 02:41:58,040
No, of course not.

4667
02:41:58,240 --> 02:41:58,920
They don't care.

4668
02:41:59,520 --> 02:42:01,420
So they're getting, oh, I'm going to, we're

4669
02:42:01,420 --> 02:42:02,120
going to boycott.

4670
02:42:02,240 --> 02:42:03,480
What garbage.

4671
02:42:03,700 --> 02:42:05,180
This is like the lefties doing something.

4672
02:42:05,980 --> 02:42:06,820
I have two clips.

4673
02:42:06,820 --> 02:42:08,860
Let me play a clip here because you

4674
02:42:08,860 --> 02:42:12,840
interrupted me before the whole donation segment.

4675
02:42:13,640 --> 02:42:14,020
I did?

4676
02:42:14,240 --> 02:42:14,520
Yes.

4677
02:42:14,620 --> 02:42:16,740
I want to talk to you about solastalgia

4678
02:42:17,720 --> 02:42:19,860
because you might be suffering from it.

4679
02:42:21,360 --> 02:42:22,340
What is it?

4680
02:42:23,140 --> 02:42:25,900
Solastalgia is a term coined to describe the

4681
02:42:25,900 --> 02:42:28,880
distress people feel when their home environment is

4682
02:42:28,880 --> 02:42:29,400
damaged.

4683
02:42:29,660 --> 02:42:31,900
It's been linked to a significant mental health

4684
02:42:31,900 --> 02:42:32,360
strain.

4685
02:42:32,500 --> 02:42:35,180
A review published in BMJ Mental Health looked

4686
02:42:35,180 --> 02:42:39,660
at research from countries, including Australia, Germany, Peru

4687
02:42:39,660 --> 02:42:40,940
and the United States.

4688
02:42:41,080 --> 02:42:44,340
It found that people experiencing solastalgia often due

4689
02:42:44,340 --> 02:42:49,700
to climate change, mining or natural disasters had

4690
02:42:49,700 --> 02:42:53,560
higher rates of anxiety, depression and psychological distress.

4691
02:42:53,740 --> 02:42:56,180
The evidence also suggests that the stronger a

4692
02:42:56,180 --> 02:42:58,800
person's emotional connection was to where they live,

4693
02:42:58,900 --> 02:43:02,160
the greater their distress over changes or degradation

4694
02:43:02,160 --> 02:43:03,240
to the environment.

4695
02:43:03,240 --> 02:43:06,040
The study authors say more long-term research

4696
02:43:06,040 --> 02:43:10,100
is needed to fully understand how solastalgia affects

4697
02:43:10,100 --> 02:43:11,740
mental health in the long term.

4698
02:43:11,900 --> 02:43:14,280
But they urge communities and health professionals to

4699
02:43:14,280 --> 02:43:17,280
recognize it as a real measurable source of

4700
02:43:17,280 --> 02:43:18,540
psychological stress.

4701
02:43:18,920 --> 02:43:21,640
Seven out of 10 doctors and the American

4702
02:43:21,640 --> 02:43:25,000
Psychology Association recommend listening to the No Agenda

4703
02:43:25,000 --> 02:43:27,520
show to reduce the symptoms of solastalgia.

4704
02:43:27,960 --> 02:43:29,080
I've heard that.

4705
02:43:29,320 --> 02:43:29,500
Yes.

4706
02:43:29,580 --> 02:43:31,300
Now I have a climate, you might as

4707
02:43:31,300 --> 02:43:33,720
well play my climate change WTF clip, which

4708
02:43:33,720 --> 02:43:35,640
is pronounced limet.

4709
02:43:37,060 --> 02:43:38,180
Climate change.

4710
02:43:38,300 --> 02:43:40,880
OK, in 30 minutes, keep up to date

4711
02:43:40,880 --> 02:43:44,160
with news hour at 21 GMT.

4712
02:43:44,340 --> 02:43:47,620
It's the climate question asking what does the

4713
02:43:47,620 --> 02:43:49,780
ocean do for us and the planet?

4714
02:43:50,200 --> 02:43:52,080
The whole of our civilization and of human

4715
02:43:52,080 --> 02:43:54,520
history has been shaped by the ocean because

4716
02:43:54,520 --> 02:43:56,480
how the ocean moves dictates where the heat

4717
02:43:56,480 --> 02:43:56,740
goes.

4718
02:43:56,780 --> 02:43:58,780
It dictates what the weather's like on land.

4719
02:43:58,860 --> 02:44:00,600
That's followed by health check.

4720
02:44:01,300 --> 02:44:02,180
Wait a minute.

4721
02:44:03,280 --> 02:44:05,780
If this is the teaser for a show,

4722
02:44:05,920 --> 02:44:09,980
but if the oceans determine everything about weather

4723
02:44:09,980 --> 02:44:13,300
and climate and temperatures, then what does man

4724
02:44:13,300 --> 02:44:14,380
have to do with it?

4725
02:44:14,780 --> 02:44:15,980
That's what they said.

4726
02:44:17,280 --> 02:44:19,620
I'm not even going to entertain this question.

4727
02:44:19,860 --> 02:44:21,520
This is not a valid Ask Adam.

4728
02:44:21,900 --> 02:44:23,100
This is too dumb.

4729
02:44:23,200 --> 02:44:24,280
It wasn't an Ask Adam.

4730
02:44:24,360 --> 02:44:26,120
The Ask Adam was about Pornhub.

4731
02:44:28,120 --> 02:44:28,680
Yes.

4732
02:44:30,180 --> 02:44:31,160
You're losing.

4733
02:44:31,260 --> 02:44:32,220
You're losing track.

4734
02:44:32,700 --> 02:44:34,420
Yeah, well, I'm trying to figure out how

4735
02:44:34,420 --> 02:44:35,400
to get us out of here.

4736
02:44:36,500 --> 02:44:37,900
But here is.

4737
02:44:38,800 --> 02:44:40,680
Again, is that we're done now?

4738
02:44:40,840 --> 02:44:42,600
Well, we first we have to talk about

4739
02:44:42,600 --> 02:44:44,940
how bad things are from the from vaccines.

4740
02:44:45,120 --> 02:44:48,020
Every year, egg and sperm donations help thousands

4741
02:44:48,020 --> 02:44:50,760
of people with fertility issues start families of

4742
02:44:50,760 --> 02:44:51,260
their own.

4743
02:44:51,360 --> 02:44:53,920
But a Europe wide investigation has found that

4744
02:44:53,920 --> 02:44:56,850
one sperm donor who fathered nearly 200 children

4745
02:44:57,880 --> 02:45:00,320
unwittingly passed away on a genetic mutation that

4746
02:45:00,320 --> 02:45:02,600
dramatically increased their risk of cancer.

4747
02:45:03,380 --> 02:45:05,500
Celine, not her real name, is a single

4748
02:45:05,500 --> 02:45:08,180
mother in France whose child was conceived 14

4749
02:45:08,180 --> 02:45:08,820
years ago.

4750
02:45:09,440 --> 02:45:11,560
She received a call from her fertility clinic

4751
02:45:11,560 --> 02:45:13,900
in Belgium urging her to get her daughter

4752
02:45:13,900 --> 02:45:14,640
screened.

4753
02:45:15,060 --> 02:45:16,720
She told us of her fears over the

4754
02:45:16,720 --> 02:45:18,920
possibility her child may develop cancer.

4755
02:45:19,400 --> 02:45:20,700
We have translated her words.

4756
02:45:21,020 --> 02:45:23,160
We don't know when, we don't know which

4757
02:45:23,160 --> 02:45:25,020
one, and we don't know how many.

4758
02:45:25,660 --> 02:45:27,860
I understand that there's a high chance it's

4759
02:45:27,860 --> 02:45:28,640
going to happen.

4760
02:45:28,980 --> 02:45:30,600
And when it does, we'll fight.

4761
02:45:31,060 --> 02:45:33,200
And if there are several, we'll fight several

4762
02:45:33,200 --> 02:45:33,780
times.

4763
02:45:34,360 --> 02:45:36,680
The most unacceptable thing for me is that

4764
02:45:36,680 --> 02:45:39,180
I was given sperm that wasn't clean, that

4765
02:45:39,180 --> 02:45:41,980
wasn't safe, that carried a risk that hadn't

4766
02:45:41,980 --> 02:45:43,060
been properly tested.

4767
02:45:43,700 --> 02:45:45,880
That's the most unacceptable thing for me.

4768
02:45:46,440 --> 02:45:48,360
He was not aware, I believe, that he

4769
02:45:48,360 --> 02:45:50,220
was a carrier of a mutated gene.

4770
02:45:50,520 --> 02:45:53,320
So I have absolutely no hard feelings towards

4771
02:45:53,320 --> 02:45:53,620
him.

4772
02:45:53,900 --> 02:45:56,680
Some of the children have already died and

4773
02:45:56,680 --> 02:45:59,220
only a minority who inherited the mutation will

4774
02:45:59,220 --> 02:46:01,080
manage to avoid the disease entirely.

4775
02:46:01,520 --> 02:46:03,660
So this was kind of interesting to me.

4776
02:46:07,580 --> 02:46:10,360
There's a cancer gene now that they've isolated

4777
02:46:10,360 --> 02:46:12,000
and they can say, if this is in

4778
02:46:12,000 --> 02:46:14,840
your sperm, then you're probably going to, your

4779
02:46:14,840 --> 02:46:15,800
kid will have cancer.

4780
02:46:16,020 --> 02:46:17,420
Is that the takeaway from this?

4781
02:46:17,420 --> 02:46:20,460
This is all part of the depopulation scheme.

4782
02:46:20,460 --> 02:46:21,300
It's bullcrap.

4783
02:46:21,420 --> 02:46:24,320
Yeah, the No Agenda Show, besides helping your

4784
02:46:24,320 --> 02:46:28,540
solastalgia, also has available, for a Rubalizer donation,

4785
02:46:28,740 --> 02:46:29,400
clean sperm.

4786
02:46:31,850 --> 02:46:32,810
California clean sperm.

4787
02:46:32,810 --> 02:46:34,550
Adam is working on it as we speak.

4788
02:46:34,690 --> 02:46:35,790
California clean sperm.

4789
02:46:35,810 --> 02:46:37,070
Usually during the show.

4790
02:46:40,290 --> 02:46:51,790
Well, we

4791
02:46:51,790 --> 02:46:53,610
have a very few people to thank on

4792
02:46:53,610 --> 02:46:54,610
the second part here.

4793
02:46:54,610 --> 02:46:57,210
In fact, it's very few.

4794
02:46:57,390 --> 02:47:00,570
It's a total donations were poor for a

4795
02:47:00,570 --> 02:47:01,730
Thursday to say the least.

4796
02:47:02,530 --> 02:47:03,530
And it could be for a lot of

4797
02:47:03,530 --> 02:47:04,230
different reasons.

4798
02:47:04,830 --> 02:47:05,390
Give me one.

4799
02:47:05,650 --> 02:47:07,470
Give me one reason.

4800
02:47:07,690 --> 02:47:09,090
The economy is not doing as well as

4801
02:47:09,090 --> 02:47:10,050
Trump claims.

4802
02:47:10,170 --> 02:47:11,370
There's no affordability.

4803
02:47:13,270 --> 02:47:15,290
This is the affordable podcast.

4804
02:47:15,390 --> 02:47:16,190
This is what kills me.

4805
02:47:16,330 --> 02:47:17,130
It's crazy.

4806
02:47:17,370 --> 02:47:19,010
So Adam's going to read off or give

4807
02:47:19,010 --> 02:47:20,750
a thank you to these people over 50.

4808
02:47:20,890 --> 02:47:22,870
And we start with Sir Roland from Lincoln,

4809
02:47:23,010 --> 02:47:25,450
Nebraska with the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

4810
02:47:25,590 --> 02:47:26,050
We love that.

4811
02:47:26,150 --> 02:47:28,690
Thank you, Christopher Ebert in Spartanburg, South Carolina,

4812
02:47:28,810 --> 02:47:29,830
10535.

4813
02:47:31,090 --> 02:47:31,890
Alexander Bell.

4814
02:47:32,090 --> 02:47:33,250
I don't know if it's a Graham in

4815
02:47:33,250 --> 02:47:33,430
there.

4816
02:47:33,510 --> 02:47:35,550
He's from Opelika, Alabama.

4817
02:47:36,070 --> 02:47:37,570
With the, oh, with the boob donation.

4818
02:47:38,010 --> 02:47:41,330
Came in above our typical lover of America

4819
02:47:41,330 --> 02:47:41,770
and boobs.

4820
02:47:41,870 --> 02:47:44,490
The Archduke of Luna, Kevin McLaughlin, with his

4821
02:47:44,490 --> 02:47:45,310
8008.

4822
02:47:45,370 --> 02:47:47,390
And he says, PSA, gentlemen, please check the

4823
02:47:47,390 --> 02:47:48,810
temperature of her sweater puppies.

4824
02:47:49,670 --> 02:47:53,470
Donald Thompson, St. Charles, Missouri, with the ham

4825
02:47:53,470 --> 02:47:55,470
donation, 7373.

4826
02:47:55,670 --> 02:47:58,030
Scott Riley, Meridian, Idaho.

4827
02:47:58,210 --> 02:48:00,350
He says, please add my dad, Sir Stephen

4828
02:48:00,350 --> 02:48:02,050
of the Big Horton Basin to the birthday

4829
02:48:02,050 --> 02:48:02,290
list.

4830
02:48:02,350 --> 02:48:02,810
He's on it.

4831
02:48:03,350 --> 02:48:07,010
Chad Hewitt, Folsom, California, 664.

4832
02:48:07,410 --> 02:48:09,530
That's where, there's a jail there, isn't there?

4833
02:48:09,790 --> 02:48:10,990
Folsom, Folsom City.

4834
02:48:10,990 --> 02:48:12,670
Yeah, it used to be a maximum security.

4835
02:48:12,710 --> 02:48:14,210
That's where Charlie Manson was put up.

4836
02:48:14,310 --> 02:48:16,150
That's where Johnny Cash sang the blues.

4837
02:48:16,790 --> 02:48:20,410
Ryan Tierney, Stephen City, Virginia, 5678.

4838
02:48:20,510 --> 02:48:20,850
Love it.

4839
02:48:20,850 --> 02:48:24,950
Brittany Miller, Trinidad, Colorado, Trinidad, 5272.

4840
02:48:25,050 --> 02:48:27,870
Bad ideas supply, $50 and 50 cents.

4841
02:48:28,390 --> 02:48:31,150
Rene Knigge in Utrecht in the Netherlands, 50.

4842
02:48:31,210 --> 02:48:32,230
Oh, these are the 50s.

4843
02:48:32,710 --> 02:48:38,130
Roderick Brown from Mermaid, what's PE, California?

4844
02:48:38,310 --> 02:48:38,890
No, Canada.

4845
02:48:39,150 --> 02:48:39,790
No, this is Canada.

4846
02:48:39,790 --> 02:48:41,830
Prince Edward Island, Canada.

4847
02:48:42,030 --> 02:48:42,430
There we go.

4848
02:48:42,790 --> 02:48:44,490
Stephen Shoemake, Xenia, Ohio.

4849
02:48:45,050 --> 02:48:47,250
Tim Del Vecchio, Blandon, Pennsylvania.

4850
02:48:47,250 --> 02:48:50,530
Scott Otto, well, he needs a de-douching

4851
02:48:50,530 --> 02:48:51,710
for his $50 support.

4852
02:48:53,230 --> 02:48:55,090
You've been de-douched.

4853
02:48:55,270 --> 02:48:59,570
Michael Stepniksa in Vienna, Virginia.

4854
02:48:59,830 --> 02:49:00,530
Merry Christmas.

4855
02:49:00,730 --> 02:49:02,250
Thanks for keeping me informed and amused.

4856
02:49:02,690 --> 02:49:05,070
Paul Terranova, Webster, Massachusetts, 50.

4857
02:49:05,270 --> 02:49:08,550
And James Farrell, neighbor of Paul, apparently, in

4858
02:49:08,550 --> 02:49:10,550
Haverhill, Massachusetts, $50.

4859
02:49:10,990 --> 02:49:12,390
We appreciate the support.

4860
02:49:12,490 --> 02:49:12,970
Thank you all.

4861
02:49:12,970 --> 02:49:15,010
And again, thanks to our executive and associate

4862
02:49:15,010 --> 02:49:17,930
executive producers for episode 1824.

4863
02:49:18,130 --> 02:49:18,970
It's value for value.

4864
02:49:19,090 --> 02:49:21,350
All you got to do is listen to

4865
02:49:21,350 --> 02:49:21,710
the show.

4866
02:49:21,830 --> 02:49:23,290
If you get any value of it, send

4867
02:49:23,290 --> 02:49:24,410
that back in some numbers.

4868
02:49:24,550 --> 02:49:25,550
You can make up the numbers.

4869
02:49:25,650 --> 02:49:26,950
We love all the different numbers.

4870
02:49:27,030 --> 02:49:28,130
We love the numerology.

4871
02:49:29,850 --> 02:49:30,650
Noagendadonations.com.

4872
02:49:30,710 --> 02:49:32,250
Thank you all for supporting us today.

4873
02:49:33,490 --> 02:49:34,290
Noagendadonations.com.

4874
02:49:39,670 --> 02:49:43,430
Sir Fred Pound Forge Andrew, Central Indiana, turned

4875
02:49:43,430 --> 02:49:43,990
56.

4876
02:49:44,410 --> 02:49:46,470
And he wishes his dog Chip a very

4877
02:49:46,470 --> 02:49:47,110
happy birthday.

4878
02:49:47,490 --> 02:49:49,730
Chip turned 13 on December 8th.

4879
02:49:50,050 --> 02:49:53,370
Horton turned 64 on December 9th.

4880
02:49:53,410 --> 02:49:54,930
So belated happy birthday to him.

4881
02:49:55,270 --> 02:49:57,730
Gwen Serbiski, happy birthday to her sister, Beth

4882
02:49:57,730 --> 02:50:00,250
Booz Johnson, celebrated on the 10th.

4883
02:50:00,550 --> 02:50:02,710
Dasha, happy birthday to the love of her

4884
02:50:02,710 --> 02:50:03,710
life, Mark Stewart.

4885
02:50:03,710 --> 02:50:05,150
He celebrates tomorrow.

4886
02:50:05,370 --> 02:50:06,690
Or if you're listening to this show, it

4887
02:50:06,690 --> 02:50:07,150
was today.

4888
02:50:07,670 --> 02:50:09,250
Scott Riley, to wind it up, wishes his

4889
02:50:09,250 --> 02:50:11,190
father, Sir Stephen of the Bighorn Basin, a

4890
02:50:11,190 --> 02:50:12,050
very happy birthday.

4891
02:50:12,150 --> 02:50:14,510
And we say happy birthday from everybody here

4892
02:50:14,510 --> 02:50:16,770
at the best podcast in the universe.

4893
02:50:21,630 --> 02:50:30,750
Yes, we do have three title changes today.

4894
02:50:30,870 --> 02:50:31,890
Sir Horton of the Who.

4895
02:50:32,450 --> 02:50:35,030
Of course, he becomes the Baron of Whoville.

4896
02:50:35,490 --> 02:50:37,650
We heard him earlier on with his Robilizer

4897
02:50:37,650 --> 02:50:38,170
donation.

4898
02:50:38,630 --> 02:50:40,710
Sir Rich of the Backyard now becomes Baronet

4899
02:50:40,710 --> 02:50:41,750
Sir Rich of the Backyard.

4900
02:50:41,910 --> 02:50:44,670
And Sir Schwartz becomes Sir Schwartz, Baron of

4901
02:50:44,670 --> 02:50:48,550
the Woke Bashing Culprits, Overtax, Gitmo, Little Mermaid.

4902
02:50:48,710 --> 02:50:49,550
Well, there you go.

4903
02:50:50,090 --> 02:50:53,470
And now we welcome not one, but two,

4904
02:50:53,750 --> 02:50:58,330
No Agenda International Peace Prize winners, well-deserved

4905
02:50:58,330 --> 02:51:00,790
thanks to your support of the No Agenda

4906
02:51:00,790 --> 02:51:03,190
show in the amount of $1,000 or

4907
02:51:03,190 --> 02:51:03,590
more.

4908
02:51:03,990 --> 02:51:07,370
And we congratulate Horton, soon to be the

4909
02:51:07,370 --> 02:51:09,530
Baron of Whoville, or actually officially is the

4910
02:51:09,530 --> 02:51:11,750
Baron of Whoville, with this No Agenda International

4911
02:51:11,750 --> 02:51:12,410
Peace Prize.

4912
02:51:13,010 --> 02:51:15,950
And Ian Hickey, also recipient of a No

4913
02:51:15,950 --> 02:51:17,670
Agenda International Peace Prize.

4914
02:51:17,810 --> 02:51:19,570
Gentlemen, these are coveted.

4915
02:51:19,670 --> 02:51:20,910
The promotion is ending.

4916
02:51:21,230 --> 02:51:22,130
The peace is over.

4917
02:51:22,290 --> 02:51:24,230
And that's why you need to go to

4918
02:51:24,230 --> 02:51:25,570
noagendarings.com.

4919
02:51:25,630 --> 02:51:27,190
Let us know what name you'd like on

4920
02:51:27,190 --> 02:51:28,670
it, where you'd like it to send us

4921
02:51:28,670 --> 02:51:28,970
to.

4922
02:51:28,970 --> 02:51:31,710
And that will be one of the last

4923
02:51:31,710 --> 02:51:33,650
International Peace Prizes.

4924
02:51:34,230 --> 02:51:36,530
It is a peace prize season, so you

4925
02:51:36,530 --> 02:51:37,890
got to get it while stocks last.

4926
02:51:38,450 --> 02:51:39,730
We have one knighting.

4927
02:51:39,990 --> 02:51:41,310
No surprise who it is.

4928
02:51:41,370 --> 02:51:42,350
So if you can give me that blade,

4929
02:51:42,430 --> 02:51:44,590
we'll take care of everything all in one

4930
02:51:44,590 --> 02:51:44,850
go.

4931
02:51:45,590 --> 02:51:50,610
Of course, Horton, who just blew us away

4932
02:51:50,610 --> 02:51:53,450
today and helped us out in this time

4933
02:51:53,450 --> 02:51:56,850
of unaffordability with a Robolizer donation.

4934
02:51:56,850 --> 02:51:59,350
And I'm very proud to pronunciate him as

4935
02:51:59,350 --> 02:52:02,510
Sir Horton of the Who, upgraded to the

4936
02:52:02,510 --> 02:52:03,830
Baron of Whoville.

4937
02:52:04,050 --> 02:52:06,450
For you, sir, by your request, we have,

4938
02:52:06,530 --> 02:52:08,990
of course, hookers and blow, Renfrews and Chardonnay.

4939
02:52:09,070 --> 02:52:10,710
We've got Luwak Coffee.

4940
02:52:11,350 --> 02:52:12,370
I hope it tastes good.

4941
02:52:12,510 --> 02:52:13,950
It's people are kind of giving it the

4942
02:52:13,950 --> 02:52:15,110
side eye at the round table.

4943
02:52:15,430 --> 02:52:17,590
Along with that, Rubenes, Rumen and Rose, Gases

4944
02:52:17,590 --> 02:52:19,490
and Sake, Vodka and Vanilla, Bong, Hits and

4945
02:52:19,490 --> 02:52:21,990
Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Ginger Ale and

4946
02:52:21,990 --> 02:52:24,850
Gerbils, Fist Nook and Pablum, and Pumped at

4947
02:52:24,850 --> 02:52:27,950
the Airport, and Mutton and Mead, all here

4948
02:52:27,950 --> 02:52:28,830
for you at the round table.

4949
02:52:28,990 --> 02:52:30,630
You also go to noagenderrings.com.

4950
02:52:30,710 --> 02:52:31,750
Let us know your ring size.

4951
02:52:31,850 --> 02:52:34,750
There's a ring size guide on the website,

4952
02:52:34,910 --> 02:52:36,190
and we'll send it off to you.

4953
02:52:36,230 --> 02:52:37,610
And thank you for supporting The No Agenda

4954
02:52:37,610 --> 02:52:40,070
Show in a fantastic fashion.

4955
02:52:48,710 --> 02:52:51,090
We got one meetup report.

4956
02:52:51,230 --> 02:52:54,010
It's a belated meetup report because they sent

4957
02:52:54,010 --> 02:52:55,410
the email and sent pictures.

4958
02:52:55,490 --> 02:52:56,930
And I love it when people send pictures

4959
02:52:56,930 --> 02:52:58,430
of their meetups.

4960
02:52:58,530 --> 02:53:00,270
We had two lovely ladies who just had

4961
02:53:00,270 --> 02:53:02,770
a meetup together, and that's completely valid.

4962
02:53:02,850 --> 02:53:04,230
Didn't do a report, but we did get

4963
02:53:04,230 --> 02:53:09,790
a rather long report from the Spokane Turkey

4964
02:53:09,790 --> 02:53:10,210
trots.

4965
02:53:10,810 --> 02:53:11,510
But it's fun.

4966
02:53:11,590 --> 02:53:12,270
Everybody's in there.

4967
02:53:12,270 --> 02:53:13,150
Wait a minute.

4968
02:53:14,010 --> 02:53:15,990
There was two women that had a meetup

4969
02:53:15,990 --> 02:53:17,290
and no guys showed up?

4970
02:53:17,630 --> 02:53:18,230
That's correct.

4971
02:53:19,230 --> 02:53:19,750
Yeah.

4972
02:53:19,810 --> 02:53:20,930
What's wrong with these guys?

4973
02:53:21,230 --> 02:53:21,830
I don't know.

4974
02:53:22,330 --> 02:53:26,070
And their server took a picture of them.

4975
02:53:26,150 --> 02:53:26,950
They're hanging out.

4976
02:53:27,050 --> 02:53:29,530
They love talking about all current events.

4977
02:53:29,670 --> 02:53:30,150
Love us.

4978
02:53:30,250 --> 02:53:30,710
Love us.

4979
02:53:30,790 --> 02:53:31,430
Love us to death.

4980
02:53:32,210 --> 02:53:32,430
Let me see.

4981
02:53:32,470 --> 02:53:33,210
What was their names?

4982
02:53:34,250 --> 02:53:35,990
I should have probably written that down.

4983
02:53:36,990 --> 02:53:37,870
Let me see.

4984
02:53:38,990 --> 02:53:39,470
Meetup.

4985
02:53:39,590 --> 02:53:40,710
Where is the meetup?

4986
02:53:43,910 --> 02:53:45,830
I don't know what happened to it.

4987
02:53:46,670 --> 02:53:47,650
Send it again, ladies.

4988
02:53:47,810 --> 02:53:48,670
I want to thank you.

4989
02:53:48,790 --> 02:53:51,230
Anyway, let's hear from the Turkey trot meetup.

4990
02:53:52,330 --> 02:53:54,650
Hey, that would be this one.

4991
02:53:54,970 --> 02:53:55,810
Hi, Crackpot.

4992
02:53:56,150 --> 02:53:57,270
Hi, Buzzkill.

4993
02:53:57,690 --> 02:53:59,190
This is Grandma Flinner.

4994
02:53:59,630 --> 02:54:00,570
And this is Bill.

4995
02:54:00,970 --> 02:54:02,310
I'm the Queen Bee.

4996
02:54:02,610 --> 02:54:05,610
We're inside now that it's raining, but I

4997
02:54:05,610 --> 02:54:07,710
was tending the fires to make sure they

4998
02:54:07,710 --> 02:54:11,130
are smoking hot, just like me.

4999
02:54:11,330 --> 02:54:13,730
Jack from Post Falls, coming and meeting wonderful

5000
02:54:13,730 --> 02:54:15,230
people at the Turkey Trot today.

5001
02:54:15,650 --> 02:54:16,510
Connection is protection.

5002
02:54:17,230 --> 02:54:18,750
Hey, it's Sir Scott the Jew here from

5003
02:54:18,750 --> 02:54:21,530
the North Idaho Sanity Brigade here hanging out,

5004
02:54:21,630 --> 02:54:24,350
much to my everlasting chagrin, on the other

5005
02:54:24,350 --> 02:54:28,130
side of the border in Washington, to say

5006
02:54:28,130 --> 02:54:30,050
thanks, John and Adam, for working on this

5007
02:54:30,050 --> 02:54:32,470
Thanksgiving holiday like you do all holidays.

5008
02:54:32,830 --> 02:54:33,550
This is Mackenzie.

5009
02:54:33,770 --> 02:54:34,530
And this is Marshall.

5010
02:54:34,990 --> 02:54:37,310
Brought our two human resources, getting our boots

5011
02:54:37,310 --> 02:54:40,230
wet at this Turkey Trot in the morning.

5012
02:54:40,810 --> 02:54:41,530
This is Cody.

5013
02:54:41,810 --> 02:54:42,630
And this is Christina.

5014
02:54:42,770 --> 02:54:44,650
Back at the Flynn house doing some Thanksgiving

5015
02:54:44,650 --> 02:54:46,290
stuffing in the morning.

5016
02:54:46,890 --> 02:54:48,730
Person here with boots on the ground looking

5017
02:54:48,730 --> 02:54:49,650
for the spook.

5018
02:54:49,990 --> 02:54:51,910
Connection is protection in the morning.

5019
02:54:52,370 --> 02:54:54,890
Sharon here getting wet while doing some huffing

5020
02:54:54,890 --> 02:54:57,010
and puffing to make room for some Thanksgiving

5021
02:54:57,010 --> 02:54:58,730
stuffing in the morning.

5022
02:54:59,270 --> 02:55:03,230
Ann Marie here trotting with these Flint turkeys

5023
02:55:03,230 --> 02:55:05,410
and friends in the morning.

5024
02:55:05,810 --> 02:55:07,630
Hi, this is Michelle in the morning.

5025
02:55:08,050 --> 02:55:10,090
I can't believe Dennis put our Turkey Trot

5026
02:55:10,090 --> 02:55:12,350
on the meetups, but connection is protection and

5027
02:55:12,350 --> 02:55:13,630
we welcome Gitmo Nation.

5028
02:55:13,990 --> 02:55:15,890
Love listening to your pod together on the

5029
02:55:15,890 --> 02:55:16,390
road trips.

5030
02:55:16,770 --> 02:55:17,810
Dennis made me say pod.

5031
02:55:17,810 --> 02:55:18,890
He's such a douche bag.

5032
02:55:19,410 --> 02:55:20,230
This is Dennis Flinner.

5033
02:55:20,370 --> 02:55:20,930
The findings.

5034
02:55:21,510 --> 02:55:23,450
So thankful for my smoking hot wife, Michelle,

5035
02:55:23,570 --> 02:55:24,790
who makes all things possible.

5036
02:55:24,990 --> 02:55:26,210
And we've never had a fight.

5037
02:55:26,530 --> 02:55:28,070
John, it was pretty bad art.

5038
02:55:28,110 --> 02:55:29,530
So I get how you could pass on

5039
02:55:29,530 --> 02:55:30,610
my Dvorak double.

5040
02:55:30,910 --> 02:55:33,170
But Adam, how could you pass on my

5041
02:55:33,170 --> 02:55:34,290
deep fake dudes?

5042
02:55:34,390 --> 02:55:35,510
It wasn't even orange.

5043
02:55:35,610 --> 02:55:36,650
That's bogative, man.

5044
02:55:36,750 --> 02:55:38,150
I'm so offended.

5045
02:55:38,550 --> 02:55:40,430
Shout out to the Smith clan in Anchorage.

5046
02:55:40,590 --> 02:55:41,990
Several of them hit me in the mouth,

5047
02:55:42,090 --> 02:55:43,370
but Paul Willie was the first.

5048
02:55:43,710 --> 02:55:46,850
The real question is, are any, if any,

5049
02:55:46,850 --> 02:55:50,630
of Paul, Dan, Pete, Matt or Al douchebags?

5050
02:55:50,830 --> 02:55:54,030
I love my truck and I love what

5051
02:55:54,030 --> 02:55:54,790
I do.

5052
02:55:55,090 --> 02:55:56,170
All aboard!

5053
02:55:56,810 --> 02:56:00,810
Ah, JCD Sound Machine making an entrance there.

5054
02:56:01,470 --> 02:56:04,030
It was Dame Patricia from Miami and Dame

5055
02:56:04,030 --> 02:56:06,750
Aquamarine who have the small group.

5056
02:56:07,250 --> 02:56:09,030
Say we're a small group, but meet regularly

5057
02:56:09,030 --> 02:56:11,310
for happy hour and talk about current events

5058
02:56:11,310 --> 02:56:13,070
through no agenda eyes.

5059
02:56:13,670 --> 02:56:14,990
That's what I'm talking about.

5060
02:56:15,070 --> 02:56:16,070
Doesn't have to be big.

5061
02:56:16,070 --> 02:56:18,090
It can be as small as just two.

5062
02:56:18,410 --> 02:56:20,010
Go to noagendameetups.com.

5063
02:56:20,170 --> 02:56:21,390
Find all of them there.

5064
02:56:21,650 --> 02:56:23,310
And if you really want to get that

5065
02:56:23,310 --> 02:56:26,530
connection that gives you protection and, of course,

5066
02:56:26,690 --> 02:56:28,370
meet some people who will be your first

5067
02:56:28,370 --> 02:56:31,570
responders in an emergency, go to noagendameetups.com.

5068
02:56:31,850 --> 02:56:33,470
If you can't find one near you, start

5069
02:56:33,470 --> 02:56:35,150
one yourself, even if it's just two of

5070
02:56:35,150 --> 02:56:35,290
you.

5071
02:56:56,630 --> 02:56:58,550
I got a lot of ISOs here.

5072
02:56:58,830 --> 02:56:59,330
We got a lot.

5073
02:56:59,330 --> 02:57:00,010
Oh, let's start.

5074
02:57:00,130 --> 02:57:00,470
Let's go.

5075
02:57:00,670 --> 02:57:01,870
I don't think you're going to win from

5076
02:57:01,870 --> 02:57:02,310
me today.

5077
02:57:02,390 --> 02:57:02,890
Here we go.

5078
02:57:03,170 --> 02:57:04,430
I'll just pass again.

5079
02:57:04,610 --> 02:57:05,030
Here we go.

5080
02:57:05,090 --> 02:57:05,810
10 out of 10.

5081
02:57:05,910 --> 02:57:06,770
That's amazing.

5082
02:57:07,710 --> 02:57:08,110
Okay.

5083
02:57:09,330 --> 02:57:10,930
It's pretty impressive work.

5084
02:57:11,780 --> 02:57:12,910
Mm hmm.

5085
02:57:13,270 --> 02:57:15,770
Whoa, whoa, wow.

5086
02:57:16,070 --> 02:57:17,390
Yeah, yeah.

5087
02:57:17,410 --> 02:57:18,030
I like that one.

5088
02:57:18,110 --> 02:57:18,490
Yeah.

5089
02:57:19,950 --> 02:57:23,710
If only something somewhere made sense somehow.

5090
02:57:24,750 --> 02:57:26,590
It's cute, but not for sure.

5091
02:57:26,870 --> 02:57:27,180
And then...

5092
02:57:31,830 --> 02:57:32,410
Yeah.

5093
02:57:33,250 --> 02:57:33,630
All right.

5094
02:57:33,830 --> 02:57:34,490
That's what I got.

5095
02:57:34,630 --> 02:57:37,410
So you kind of like the...

5096
02:57:37,410 --> 02:57:39,890
Whoa, whoa, wow.

5097
02:57:39,890 --> 02:57:41,690
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

5098
02:57:41,690 --> 02:57:42,410
It was pretty good.

5099
02:57:42,530 --> 02:57:44,490
You want to go up against mine?

5100
02:57:44,590 --> 02:57:45,210
You want to try it?

5101
02:57:45,210 --> 02:57:45,850
I think I can.

5102
02:57:46,270 --> 02:57:48,270
Yeah, I mean, it's not great.

5103
02:57:48,470 --> 02:57:49,010
It's good.

5104
02:57:49,130 --> 02:57:51,710
Let's start with Fab.

5105
02:57:52,970 --> 02:57:55,090
You can listen to this fabulous show for

5106
02:57:55,090 --> 02:57:55,430
free?

5107
02:57:55,950 --> 02:57:56,470
Wow.

5108
02:57:59,030 --> 02:58:01,570
That is a bad ISO.

5109
02:58:02,550 --> 02:58:05,470
People think it's free, like free beer.

5110
02:58:05,630 --> 02:58:07,530
Like we don't need any donations.

5111
02:58:08,010 --> 02:58:10,650
That goes against everything you stand for.

5112
02:58:12,510 --> 02:58:14,730
It's a good end to show clip because

5113
02:58:14,730 --> 02:58:16,110
you can listen to it for free.

5114
02:58:16,970 --> 02:58:17,410
Okay.

5115
02:58:17,630 --> 02:58:19,310
Okay, let's go with podcasts.

5116
02:58:19,710 --> 02:58:21,890
Why aren't all podcasts this great?

5117
02:58:22,290 --> 02:58:23,430
Nah, it's too muddled.

5118
02:58:24,150 --> 02:58:24,310
No.

5119
02:58:24,450 --> 02:58:25,950
Yeah, she's a little muddy in that one.

5120
02:58:26,110 --> 02:58:27,430
It's the same voice, believe it or not.

5121
02:58:27,530 --> 02:58:28,570
I just changed it to tempo.

5122
02:58:28,750 --> 02:58:29,550
No, I believe it.

5123
02:58:29,790 --> 02:58:30,610
Okay, try Holy.

5124
02:58:30,930 --> 02:58:32,210
Holy moly, gosh darn.

5125
02:58:32,390 --> 02:58:33,610
These guys are great.

5126
02:58:35,190 --> 02:58:36,790
I think it's between...

5127
02:58:36,790 --> 02:58:38,750
You can listen to this fabulous show for

5128
02:58:38,750 --> 02:58:39,090
free?

5129
02:58:39,710 --> 02:58:40,130
Wow.

5130
02:58:40,830 --> 02:58:41,290
Or...

5131
02:58:41,290 --> 02:58:43,750
Whoa, whoa, wow.

5132
02:58:44,830 --> 02:58:45,750
You choose.

5133
02:58:48,280 --> 02:58:49,420
I'm going to give it to you.

5134
02:58:49,860 --> 02:58:52,180
Only because of the point you made.

5135
02:58:53,260 --> 02:58:54,280
Time for the tip of the day.

5136
02:59:01,140 --> 02:59:07,180
Okay, it's back to the well with websites.

5137
02:59:07,180 --> 02:59:09,140
By the way, I got my knife.

5138
02:59:10,120 --> 02:59:11,340
Oh, isn't that thing something?

5139
02:59:11,700 --> 02:59:16,200
That is quite something, but I only took

5140
02:59:16,200 --> 02:59:17,940
it out just for a moment because I'm

5141
02:59:17,940 --> 02:59:20,940
waiting for my chain mail gloves to come

5142
02:59:20,940 --> 02:59:21,060
in.

5143
02:59:21,280 --> 02:59:23,680
Because I'm afraid, you said, and it's true,

5144
02:59:23,780 --> 02:59:24,880
this is the kind you can throw the

5145
02:59:24,880 --> 02:59:26,780
tomato in the air and it'll slice on

5146
02:59:26,780 --> 02:59:27,220
the blade.

5147
02:59:27,720 --> 02:59:28,480
That's true.

5148
02:59:29,260 --> 02:59:29,940
That's true.

5149
02:59:30,520 --> 02:59:32,440
Take a piece of paper and just...

5150
02:59:32,440 --> 02:59:34,520
You can not only cut through the paper,

5151
02:59:34,600 --> 02:59:37,020
but you can cut really slowly through the

5152
02:59:37,020 --> 02:59:37,120
paper.

5153
02:59:37,120 --> 02:59:38,640
I'm afraid to handle it, man.

5154
02:59:38,860 --> 02:59:41,280
It's like, you freak me out about that.

5155
02:59:41,580 --> 02:59:42,800
It's a pretty sharp knife.

5156
02:59:42,920 --> 02:59:43,760
You have to know what you're doing.

5157
02:59:43,760 --> 02:59:44,520
It could hurt me.

5158
02:59:44,660 --> 02:59:46,160
Yeah, I don't want to be hurt.

5159
02:59:46,920 --> 02:59:48,420
I don't want you to get hurt either.

5160
02:59:48,500 --> 02:59:49,260
I'm sorry you bought it.

5161
02:59:49,960 --> 02:59:51,060
But that's a killer.

5162
02:59:51,260 --> 02:59:53,100
And it's full of 67 times.

5163
02:59:53,180 --> 02:59:54,620
You can see the little pattern on there

5164
02:59:54,620 --> 02:59:56,720
where the blade's been heated and cooled.

5165
02:59:57,220 --> 02:59:57,760
49 bucks.

5166
02:59:57,920 --> 02:59:59,020
I mean, what a bargain.

5167
02:59:59,120 --> 03:00:00,660
It was ridiculously cheap.

5168
03:00:00,680 --> 03:00:01,420
It was a good deal.

5169
03:00:02,700 --> 03:00:02,860
Yeah.

5170
03:00:03,360 --> 03:00:04,440
Somebody sent me a note.

5171
03:00:04,500 --> 03:00:06,120
It's one of our producers saying, I don't

5172
03:00:06,120 --> 03:00:07,800
know about this tip of the day idea.

5173
03:00:08,480 --> 03:00:11,300
You're telling people to buy knives and TVs

5174
03:00:11,300 --> 03:00:12,120
and all this stuff.

5175
03:00:12,200 --> 03:00:14,240
That's money that they could be donating to

5176
03:00:14,240 --> 03:00:14,940
the show.

5177
03:00:15,220 --> 03:00:16,140
That's what he said.

5178
03:00:17,360 --> 03:00:18,760
And I didn't know how to react to

5179
03:00:18,760 --> 03:00:19,040
that.

5180
03:00:19,200 --> 03:00:19,860
Because he's right.

5181
03:00:21,160 --> 03:00:23,120
Well, this next tip of the day is

5182
03:00:23,120 --> 03:00:25,140
not going to affect donations at all.

5183
03:00:25,220 --> 03:00:27,200
Because it's a website that I recommend people

5184
03:00:27,200 --> 03:00:28,740
put on their list of websites.

5185
03:00:29,420 --> 03:00:35,420
And it's called rxlist.com.

5186
03:00:35,540 --> 03:00:36,080
Okay.

5187
03:00:36,780 --> 03:00:39,940
And it's every drug that they sell, generic

5188
03:00:39,940 --> 03:00:42,260
and otherwise, it's a list of every drug

5189
03:00:42,260 --> 03:00:43,820
with everything you need to know about the

5190
03:00:43,820 --> 03:00:43,960
drug.

5191
03:00:44,020 --> 03:00:45,300
For example, you look up a drug, it

5192
03:00:45,300 --> 03:00:47,520
gives you the generic name, the brand name

5193
03:00:47,520 --> 03:00:49,720
or names, the drug class.

5194
03:00:49,820 --> 03:00:51,440
And then it gives you a summary with

5195
03:00:51,440 --> 03:00:53,920
all the contraindications, all the things that make

5196
03:00:53,920 --> 03:00:54,260
you sick.

5197
03:00:54,400 --> 03:00:56,880
And all the warnings and everything that you

5198
03:00:56,880 --> 03:01:00,780
never get normally, including the dosage and everything.

5199
03:01:00,920 --> 03:01:04,240
So if somebody misdoses it, you got all

5200
03:01:04,240 --> 03:01:04,900
this information.

5201
03:01:05,680 --> 03:01:07,840
It's really a fabulous site.

5202
03:01:08,800 --> 03:01:09,680
rx.com?

5203
03:01:10,880 --> 03:01:11,760
rxlist.com.

5204
03:01:11,760 --> 03:01:13,160
Oh, rxlist.com.

5205
03:01:13,760 --> 03:01:14,060
Wow.

5206
03:01:14,200 --> 03:01:15,920
So that's basically a list of stuff you

5207
03:01:15,920 --> 03:01:16,700
don't want.

5208
03:01:20,140 --> 03:01:20,940
It's everything.

5209
03:01:21,300 --> 03:01:22,780
So maybe you want some of it.

5210
03:01:22,820 --> 03:01:23,380
I'm not sure.

5211
03:01:23,500 --> 03:01:24,540
Well, there it is.

5212
03:01:24,620 --> 03:01:25,980
We're better than the FDA.

5213
03:01:26,400 --> 03:01:27,820
It is John's tip of the day.

5214
03:01:27,960 --> 03:01:29,960
Find them all at tipoftheday.net.

5215
03:01:40,100 --> 03:01:43,420
By the way, I discovered that the tip

5216
03:01:43,420 --> 03:01:46,280
of the day has Amazon affiliate links for

5217
03:01:46,280 --> 03:01:47,100
all of your tips.

5218
03:01:49,540 --> 03:01:50,740
No, it doesn't.

5219
03:01:51,640 --> 03:01:52,540
Sure did.

5220
03:01:53,820 --> 03:01:55,320
None of the tips that I gave.

5221
03:01:56,500 --> 03:01:57,000
Okay.

5222
03:01:57,820 --> 03:02:00,340
There might be Amazon affiliate links on the

5223
03:02:00,340 --> 03:02:02,400
tips that are on tipoftheday.com.

5224
03:02:02,400 --> 03:02:03,200
That's what I'm saying.

5225
03:02:03,320 --> 03:02:04,060
That's what I'm saying.

5226
03:02:04,140 --> 03:02:05,160
The tipoftheday.net.

5227
03:02:05,160 --> 03:02:07,580
Well, then they're making money off of us.

5228
03:02:07,600 --> 03:02:08,820
Then they should donate.

5229
03:02:08,980 --> 03:02:09,720
As long as they donate.

5230
03:02:09,720 --> 03:02:10,220
They should donate.

5231
03:02:10,720 --> 03:02:10,860
As long as they donate.

5232
03:02:10,880 --> 03:02:13,320
I don't think No Agenda Fund does that.

5233
03:02:13,780 --> 03:02:14,580
Oh, no, no.

5234
03:02:14,960 --> 03:02:15,660
Tipoftheday.net.

5235
03:02:15,680 --> 03:02:17,420
But as long as they donate something, I'm

5236
03:02:17,420 --> 03:02:18,040
okay with it.

5237
03:02:18,260 --> 03:02:20,240
Yeah, well, they should be donating a lot.

5238
03:02:20,420 --> 03:02:21,180
You know, a good...

5239
03:02:21,180 --> 03:02:21,880
They should be 20%.

5240
03:02:23,600 --> 03:02:24,160
Coming up next.

5241
03:02:24,160 --> 03:02:25,140
20% of the take.

5242
03:02:25,300 --> 03:02:28,740
Coming up next on your No Agenda stream

5243
03:02:28,740 --> 03:02:30,320
is that Larry show.

5244
03:02:31,620 --> 03:02:33,760
Danger Christmas Grifts is the title of that

5245
03:02:33,760 --> 03:02:33,980
one.

5246
03:02:33,980 --> 03:02:36,360
And the show mixes from Secret Agent Paul,

5247
03:02:36,540 --> 03:02:38,520
Melo D and MVP.

5248
03:02:39,220 --> 03:02:40,940
That concludes our broadcast day.

5249
03:02:41,160 --> 03:02:42,920
We will return for you on Sunday.

5250
03:02:43,080 --> 03:02:44,020
Please meet us there.

5251
03:02:45,380 --> 03:02:47,620
If you don't, I'll say Merry Christmas in

5252
03:02:47,620 --> 03:02:48,000
advance.

5253
03:02:48,180 --> 03:02:48,500
Advance.

5254
03:02:48,860 --> 03:02:51,420
And remember us at noagendathedonations.com.

5255
03:02:51,500 --> 03:02:52,300
In the morning, everybody.

5256
03:02:52,440 --> 03:02:53,200
I'm Adam Curry.

5257
03:02:53,360 --> 03:02:55,260
And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C.

5258
03:02:55,360 --> 03:02:55,760
Dvorak.

5259
03:02:55,880 --> 03:02:57,320
See you next time on Sunday.

5260
03:02:57,400 --> 03:02:59,500
Until then, adios, mofos.

5261
03:02:59,860 --> 03:03:00,720
Ahoy, hoy.

5262
03:03:01,120 --> 03:03:02,000
And such.

5263
03:03:05,580 --> 03:03:07,780
I don't want to live around black people.

5264
03:03:08,060 --> 03:03:08,600
No, no.

5265
03:03:09,900 --> 03:03:10,920
I'm a racist.

5266
03:03:12,140 --> 03:03:13,380
I am a racist.

5267
03:03:14,740 --> 03:03:17,560
I don't want to live around Jews, women

5268
03:03:17,560 --> 03:03:18,960
and blacks.

5269
03:03:19,360 --> 03:03:19,940
No, no.

5270
03:03:20,840 --> 03:03:23,420
I want to avoid black people.

5271
03:03:24,120 --> 03:03:25,960
I don't want to live around black people.

5272
03:03:26,260 --> 03:03:26,820
No, no.

5273
03:03:28,360 --> 03:03:29,260
I'm a racist.

5274
03:03:30,080 --> 03:03:31,560
I am a racist.

5275
03:03:32,480 --> 03:03:35,980
I can absolutely say I don't want to

5276
03:03:35,980 --> 03:03:38,540
be living anywhere near black people.

5277
03:03:39,560 --> 03:03:41,000
I've got no problem saying that.

5278
03:03:41,980 --> 03:03:42,740
I'm a racist.

5279
03:03:43,140 --> 03:03:43,840
I am a racist.

5280
03:03:44,220 --> 03:03:45,020
I'm a racist.

5281
03:03:50,960 --> 03:03:51,880
I'm a racist.

5282
03:03:52,140 --> 03:03:53,060
I am a racist.

5283
03:03:53,460 --> 03:03:54,140
I'm a racist.

5284
03:03:54,540 --> 03:03:55,380
I am a racist.

5285
03:03:55,860 --> 03:03:57,360
The black shootings.

5286
03:03:58,080 --> 03:03:59,540
The black crime.

5287
03:03:59,540 --> 03:04:01,120
I don't like blacks.

5288
03:04:02,140 --> 03:04:03,200
No, no.

5289
03:04:09,280 --> 03:04:10,780
Killings in the Caribbean.

5290
03:04:17,220 --> 03:04:18,680
Killings in the Caribbean.

5291
03:04:21,000 --> 03:04:23,280
And what that means in the law is

5292
03:04:23,280 --> 03:04:25,540
that not only should we not be talking

5293
03:04:25,540 --> 03:04:27,920
about these things in terms of war crimes,

5294
03:04:27,920 --> 03:04:30,140
we should be talking about these things as

5295
03:04:30,140 --> 03:04:31,000
simple murders.

5296
03:04:32,960 --> 03:04:35,180
War crimes all the time.

5297
03:04:35,720 --> 03:04:38,980
Ladies and gentlemen, step right up.

5298
03:04:39,740 --> 03:04:40,840
Don't be shy.

5299
03:04:41,960 --> 03:04:45,900
See the greatest magic trick beneath the American

5300
03:04:45,900 --> 03:04:46,720
sky.

5301
03:04:47,480 --> 03:04:49,320
Forget arrest and trial.

5302
03:04:49,680 --> 03:04:51,540
Forget the appeal and the plea.

5303
03:04:51,980 --> 03:04:54,300
We're here for the ultimate reset.

5304
03:04:56,180 --> 03:04:58,940
In American history.

5305
03:05:01,060 --> 03:05:03,460
Well, you're tangled with the feds.

5306
03:05:03,520 --> 03:05:05,080
You were caught red-handed, true.

5307
03:05:05,680 --> 03:05:08,500
Your lawyer's looking sweaty and the jury's giving

5308
03:05:08,500 --> 03:05:09,200
you the boo.

5309
03:05:09,580 --> 03:05:12,040
The judge just dropped the hammer, said, son,

5310
03:05:12,100 --> 03:05:13,360
your future's bleak.

5311
03:05:13,620 --> 03:05:15,780
You're facing down many years for the drug

5312
03:05:15,780 --> 03:05:17,240
running you did last week.

5313
03:05:17,300 --> 03:05:20,600
You're thinking orange jumpsuits and a whole lot

5314
03:05:20,600 --> 03:05:21,240
of regret.

5315
03:05:21,700 --> 03:05:23,960
But then you find a number a powerful

5316
03:05:23,960 --> 03:05:25,360
name you haven't met.

5317
03:05:25,700 --> 03:05:27,700
You dial the White House line or slip

5318
03:05:27,700 --> 03:05:29,480
a note through the back door.

5319
03:05:30,480 --> 03:05:32,980
Heard your friends with the president need a

5320
03:05:32,980 --> 03:05:33,380
favor.

5321
03:05:33,920 --> 03:05:35,440
Nothing more.

5322
03:05:38,680 --> 03:05:40,360
Oh, the presidential pardon.

5323
03:05:40,640 --> 03:05:42,240
It's a beautiful clean slate.

5324
03:05:42,620 --> 03:05:43,480
It's the ultimate.

5325
03:05:43,800 --> 03:05:46,260
I veto over cruel cold federal fate.

5326
03:05:46,580 --> 03:05:49,300
It's a gift for the connected, the wealthy

5327
03:05:49,300 --> 03:05:50,680
and the friends.

5328
03:05:50,720 --> 03:05:53,320
The crime you just forgot before the very

5329
03:05:53,320 --> 03:05:54,260
bitter end.

5330
03:05:54,320 --> 03:05:55,560
It ain't about justice.

5331
03:05:56,200 --> 03:05:57,520
It ain't about the law.

5332
03:05:58,080 --> 03:06:01,480
It's about having a handshake that outpranks everyone

5333
03:06:01,480 --> 03:06:02,280
you saw.

5334
03:06:02,940 --> 03:06:05,660
Yeah, POTUS here.

5335
03:06:06,680 --> 03:06:07,820
They call it mercy.

5336
03:06:08,660 --> 03:06:10,380
I call it executive flair.

5337
03:06:11,440 --> 03:06:15,520
One big stroke of the DJT signature and

5338
03:06:15,520 --> 03:06:18,300
you're breathing free air.

5339
03:06:22,640 --> 03:06:25,080
Podcast in the universe.

5340
03:06:25,680 --> 03:06:27,000
Adios, mofo.

5341
03:06:27,120 --> 03:06:30,720
Dvorak.org slash NNG.

5342
03:06:31,000 --> 03:06:33,500
Whoa, whoa, wow.