Eh, whatever.
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Thursday, November 27th, 2025.
This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media
assassination episode 1820.
This is no agenda.
No B-Team here.
We're broadcasting live from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No.
6 in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where our motto
is Don't give up the ship.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
It's crackpot and buzzkill.
In the morning.
Don't give up the ship?
You, you missed the point of that?
I did.
What am I, what am I missing?
That was what the Seditious Six said.
Oh.
And that's what all these other guys said
at the end of their little clips that
were put together.
Oh.
I'm totally convinced by Schumer.
First of all.
Yeah, besides.
Happy, happy Thanksgiving.
I want everybody to know we're working for
you.
Everybody's taking the day off.
Oh, it's unbelievable how many people, they all
worked on Monday.
Yeah.
Like the entire, everybody except for the B
-Team at Fox, for example.
The B-Team.
All bailed.
All of them.
Dude, even Candace Owens is taking the week
off and she's about to be killed by
an Israeli agent.
I mean, come on.
Nobody's working but us.
She should stay on the mic if that's
going to happen.
You know, if I was, that's what I
would do.
Talk about going down with the ship.
Yeah.
Like, come on, kill me on the air,
man.
Let's go.
Let's do it.
Mr. Mossad.
I want to get these clips out of
the way.
This is going down with the ship thing.
But this, you're so out of format.
This is not what we do every year.
What do we do?
Every single Thanksgiving, and this is almost like
the night before Christmas book.
You're talking about the long story about what
Thanksgiving really is?
You need to tell us the actual story
of Thanksgiving.
I do this every year.
I used to put it in the newsletter.
I gave up.
Why?
It's so beautiful.
I actually went and looked up your previous
thing.
Because you have done this since 2005 in
print.
I know.
It's getting old.
Yeah.
And I loved because I did a search.
This is the format.
This is the format, man.
Thanksgiving format.
You're like, oh, let's go down with the
ship.
No, hold on a second.
No.
By the way, I want to mention that
the idea that we do work on this
Thanksgiving, we did miss one.
But generally speaking, these people are all bailed
out.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah, like they don't care about their audience,
man.
Well, it's not even that.
There is stuff happening.
Yeah, well, there's a lot happening.
But wait, before you go into different directions.
I'm trying to get off this track, obviously.
It's not going to happen.
So I went, I found, I did a
search.
The first hit was Dvorak.org slash blog.
This is great.
And the first hit was a repost of
your 2005 post.
Yeah, so all these are reposts.
It is.
And I love how it starts off.
I'm always amused by the cock and bull
story about Thanksgiving being about pilgrims, maize, turkeys,
and Indians when the holiday stems from an
Abe Lincoln proclamation at the behest of a
magazine editor.
And then you go into this.
But what I didn't realize, the comments are
great.
Have you ever looked at these comments from...
Not for years.
Like, shut up, you old crank.
Eat your turkey, you ingrate.
It's great.
Oh, that's a good one.
I like that one.
What?
Thanksgiving didn't start with the pilgrims?
Next you'll be telling us George Washington didn't
chop down a cherry tree and Betsy Ross
did not sew the first American flag.
There's a lot of hate here.
And I realize that somehow you say these
horrible things and you're able to deflect it
to me.
It's like I've become your lightning rod.
You haven't been catching the flack for the
truth.
The truth!
About Thanksgiving.
The truth.
The cock and bull story.
Who needs it?
I notice they've been downplaying it and I've
heard on a couple of shows over the
last couple of days where people do refer
to the Lincoln proclamation.
They don't mention that it was at the
behest of a magazine editor but they do
mention it, which they've never done before.
What's interesting is I looked up Lincoln's proclamation.
I'm not going to read it.
It's very long.
But what I found interesting this year is
that he basically copied large swaths of the
Bible.
Deuteronomy, Psalms.
And he did this, what, in the middle
of the Civil War, I think?
No, it was right after the Civil War.
This was immediately after the Civil War.
Isn't that what went right around the Gettysburg
Address then?
No, no, no.
No, I think he did this one week
after the Gettysburg Address.
Well, I don't...
Well, we'd have to do...
Oh, oh, oh!
You've got your little robot right there.
Hold on, let me talk to the robot.
Let's see, error.
When did President Lincoln give the Thanksgiving proclamation?
President Lincoln gave his Thanksgiving proclamation on October
3rd, 1863.
Would you like to know more about it?
Yeah, was the Civil War over?
No, the Civil War was still raging when
Lincoln gave his Thanksgiving proclamation in 1863.
It actually lasted another two years.
Is there anything specific about the proclamation?
Oh, shut up.
Okay, well then it would be closer to
the Gettysburg Address.
Yeah, so...
And he was telling us to thank God.
That's what he was telling us.
And it wasn't for the dead soldiers like
you keep writing and saying.
Because I looked it all up.
It was to thank God that he has
mercy on us even though we don't deserve
it.
There you go.
There's your 300 words abbreviated.
And that's somehow that turned into this crazy
turkey pardoning stuff, which I also had to
look up.
Kennedy's the one who started that one.
I do know that.
Ah, no, I don't think so.
Well, let's ask the robot.
We don't know.
Let's listen to a report.
Gobble, I just want to tell you it
is very important you are hereby unconditionally pardoned.
With an audience looking on, President Trump granted
a full and complete pardon to a 52
-pound turkey named Gobble, part of an annual
White House holiday tradition.
On behalf of the First Lady and the
entire Trump family, I want to wish all
Americans a very, very happy Thanksgiving.
It's a great time of the year.
His friend Waddle was also spared.
He stopped by the White House briefing room
earlier in the day.
Want to give us a gobble?
President Harry Truman was the first to be
presented with a turkey by the National Turkey
Federation ahead of Thanksgiving.
But the more modern presidential pardon dates back
to George H.W. Bush.
This will be our 78th presentation here, and
it's just a true honor for the U
.S. turkey industry.
Anyway, blah, blah, blah.
So I looked it up.
So Truman started this, but it wasn't, you
know, I'm like, why do we pardon a
turkey?
I mean, I really would listen.
It is dumb, yeah.
It is.
So Truman was trying to conserve grain for
foreign aid to Europe after the Second World
War.
This is just what I found.
So I believe this to be true.
So he pardoned the turkey so they could
eat the grain?
No.
His administration promoted meatless Tuesdays and poultry-less
Thursdays.
People were eating that much poultry?
What?
I'm just reading it.
This enraged the poultry industry.
And you'll notice that it's always the poultry
union or whatever who select the turkey.
So before you continue, you've got Truman documented.
I've heard about Kennedy.
And then in the report you played, it
was George H.W. Bush.
She said Truman first.
Did she say Truman?
Yeah.
I thought she said George H.W. Bush.
President Harry Truman was the first to be
presented with a- Okay, wait.
Let it play.
It's boring after that.
Turkey by the National Turkey Federation ahead of
Thanksgiving.
But the more modern presidential pardon dates back
to George H.W. Bush.
There you go.
But there's a reason.
Actually, it was Reagan before that.
This was always used for political reasons.
So what happened with Truman is the National
Turkey Federation were mad that he had said,
Hey, don't eat any poultry on Thursday.
And so in order to make it up
to them, they sent crates of- sent
chickens to the White House in protest.
And that's how this presentation started.
Then it was Reagan.
It was just looking at the turkey.
There was no pardoning of the turkey.
It would just be out there in front
of the White House going, Oh, yeah.
How about that turkey?
Yeah.
Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
And I tried to get the audio, but
it was really too- It wasn't good
enough.
A reporter yelled a question.
Mr. President, are you going to pardon Oliver
North and John Poindexter?
And he says, No, I'd probably pardon this
turkey before I did that for sure.
Or something to that effect.
You can't really hear it.
And that's kind of where the pardon came
from.
And now it's just become this Turkey Federation
fest.
And basically, it's a lobbying exercise for the
Turkey Federation.
Why else would we do it?
It makes no sense.
It's fun to look at the turkeys, I
guess.
Well, when you have a 50-pounder.
Well, those beautiful turkeys.
So I'm going to read from the GROC.
Or no, this is from OpenAI.
President John F.
Kennedy was the first U.S. president on
record to informally spare a Thanksgiving turkey in
1963 through a formal tradition of a presidential
pardon was not established until 1989.
That would be the George H.W. Bush.
During a rose garden ceremony on November 19,
1983, just three days before his assassination.
This is why they killed him.
The Turkey Federation killed him.
Now we know the turkey people killed him.
And by the way, this is interesting because
Trump went on and on about this 50
-pound turkey.
Gobble, gobble.
Kennedy was presented with a 55-pound turkey.
Oh, no.
From the National Turkey Federation.
So the turkey had a sign on his
neck that said, Good eating, Mr. President.
It's just the best lobbying organization in the
business.
Every single year, they get to present their
beautiful birds.
Everyone's all hungry.
Oh, yeah, I need a turkey.
Because it makes no sense.
Well, the whole thing is stupid.
Yes, yes, it kind of is.
It was great that they brought this one
bird into the press room.
Yeah, next to the other turkeys.
Next to her kid.
What's her name?
What's his name?
That's the kid of the press secretary.
So, yes, the whole thing is ludicrous.
All right, so now before you jump into
the going down with the ship, I learned
something important that you actually called me out
on.
I want to make sure that we just
are aware of this before we get underway.
Well, that's interesting you say that because I
have a I put aside a call out
for you for something you did or said
that was so on the money, it's ridiculous,
and I've already forgotten what it is.
You'll have to think.
You watch.
This will come up during the three hours.
So this is from the anonymous TSA agent.
And he says, I
want you to know that I am one
of, in my opinion, a not insignificant portion
of the producer base who looked to no
agenda as our primary and near sole source
of national and international news and analysis.
And that isn't because we're too lazy to
watch the news.
It's because your show over the course of
the last 18 years, eight years has infected
my mind.
Good.
And show me that the M5M infected, infected
my mind and show me that the M5M
is nothing, is full of nothing but lying
to face terrible people who will make you
believe the sky is red if it gave
them an extra penny on their paycheck that
week.
So, so, and, and I, I was thinking
about it.
Yeah, that's probably true.
And I, I personally need to be more
aware of that because we're, you know, we're
wrapped up in it.
This is what we do.
We're watching everything, you know, we're watching the
podcast circularity, everybody going on each other's podcast,
talking about their podcasts and how that podcast
work.
When I interviewed that podcaster on this podcast
over there and debated that podcaster and, um,
and, and how many people are really on
X 60 million, how many in America, you
know, there's a good chance that 90%
of America just wants to have a nice
job.
Just wants to come home, have a beer,
watch some Netflix and maybe catch the no
agenda show to hear what's going on.
Maybe, maybe not.
I think the 90% don't even care
that much.
The people that listen to no agenda tend
to at least have some desire to be
up on current events.
Well, yes.
So not everybody is, I don't have to
do is watch a Jesse water show when
Johnny goes out and talks to the public
at large.
Exactly.
You can see there's the real public.
Yeah, exactly.
So, um, it kind of made me chuckle
that all these people are so up in
arms about, uh, America first GOP like that
really doesn't matter at all to most people,
to most people.
So yeah, use us as your primary source
for news and deconstruction, news and blues, news
and blues, everybody.
So I think you are correct.
Um, before you get into your clips here,
um, this, uh, the sedition, the seditious six,
which I think is a good, good label
for them.
Uh, this is the, uh, the setup.
This is the, um, impeachment team at work
because this was all about the drug boats.
As far as I could tell, I'm not
so sure it was, uh, it, I think
it was a publicity and I, by the
way, and nobody has said this, I'm going
to be the only one that says this
because I believe that Schumer is more powerful
than people think.
He's not, he's not a dumb, dumb, dumb,
a hole away.
Everyone sees him and he's behind this.
And the, one of the reasons I think
he's behind is the people that are in
this, which includes senators and congressmen.
Usually they don't mix, but luckily Jeffrey's is
a Schumer, uh, acolyte.
And he's like, let, let them go ahead
and put the congressman in there with him.
The, the, the phrase don't give up the
ship is a Schumerism.
It's a kind of stupid thing.
It makes no sense.
Like a super boomer term.
It's, it's totally.
And you can just, and he's got his,
he's been doing this publicity since for the
last number of years.
And they all, you know, the dancing Congress,
people, the people that, you know, all this
crazy stuff that he dreams up is dumb.
And he came up with this, this scheme.
And he also brought some other people on,
uh, to, uh, back him up.
There's another clip floating around of a bunch
of servicemen saying, yeah, they're right.
Um, and Trump's a bad guy for saying
he wants to kill him when Trump never
said that, but okay.
But that's, I mean, even Trump knew that
that that's what they would take away from
it.
They're both playing the game.
Yeah, obviously.
Uh, but it's Schumer.
Uh, and I have a three by three,
which is the clips of the, uh, of
what's going on, which is, what's happened was
the, uh, Trump trying to eat the three
by three.
Let's play the jingle first.
Come on, man.
I'm the button the whole time.
Experiment.
I'm ready to go comparing stories from ABC,
CBS, NBC, the never ending three by three.
All right.
This is a curve ball and start with
not the ABC, NBC, CBS, but play the,
uh, NPR, uh, summary, which is a little
more or a little less slanted.
It's still slanted in a way breaking format.
The three by three, we're going to start
with number four.
Yeah.
You're killing me.
Smalls six Democrats in Congress say they're being
investigated by the FBI after they made a
video telling members of the military that they
can refuse illegal orders.
President Trump called the message seditious behavior, punishable
by death and peers.
Sam Greenglass is more.
The White House later said the president was
not suggesting the six Democrats be killed, but
the Trump administration has taken steps to potentially
punish the group.
The Pentagon launched an investigation into Arizona Senator
Mark Kelly, and now all six say the
FBI has requested interviews.
Senator Alyssa Slotkin of Michigan told reporters on
Tuesday that Trump is attempting to stifle criticism,
including over the president's moves to strike alleged
drug boats and dispatch troops in us cities.
This is a scare tactic by him.
He is attempting to use the FBI to
scare us out of continuing to talk.
The FBI and the justice department declined to
comment.
My free speech, my free speech.
I should be able to talk.
So that was a fairly, you know, innocuous
report.
Yeah, it had them quoted.
There was no other side of it, but
it was Slotkin and Kelly in particular is
a strong Schumer supporter.
Always.
Is that so?
I did not know that.
Yeah, he voted against.
This is a military guy voted against during
the shutdown.
He, at the behest of Schumer, voted against
funding the military.
okay.
During the shutdown.
This is how pro military this guy is.
Well, I mean, he's an astronaut.
Yeah.
So we know he's a liar.
You know, he's up there in the lab,
you know, they got, they got the belts
on with the wires floating around.
So we have the, now the three by
three, they're all bad.
And I, I wanted, cause I have a
followup clip to the whole thing, which is
the bonus clip, which I had to, I
was thinking about the three by three.
Oh God, I got to play this, at
least have some balance here.
Cause they wouldn't bow.
They wouldn't balance these reports.
So let's just start from do it alphabetically
and go with ABC.
ABC is up first this evening.
The FBI is now requesting interviews with six
democratic lawmakers who told military members in those
videos that they do not have to.
Is this like a podcast interview or The
FBI wants you to come on their podcast
this evening.
The FBI is now requesting interviews with six
democratic lawmakers who told military members in those
videos that they do not have to follow
illegal orders.
President Trump accusing the lawmakers of seditious behavior,
punishable by death.
Well, now the FBI is moving in on
this and the Pentagon is threatening to court
Marshall, Senator and retired astronaut Mark Kelly.
Here's Rachel Scott tonight.
Tonight.
The FBI wants to talk to the six
democratic lawmakers who president Trump accused of seditious
behavior, punishable by death for recording this message
to the military.
I was a captain in the United States
Navy, former CIA officer, former Navy telling service
members, they should not follow illegal orders.
Our laws are clear.
You can refuse illegal orders tonight.
The FBI has requested interviews with all six
lawmakers, including New Hampshire, Congresswoman Maggie Goodlander, who
served as an intelligence officer in the Navy
reserve.
I will not be intimidated.
I will not be harassed.
I will continue to do my job and
uphold my oaths.
It comes as the Pentagon threatens to court
Marshall, Arizona, Senator Mark Kelly, a retired Navy
captain who flew 39 combat missions in Iraq
before going on to become an astronaut.
Today, defense secretary Pete Hegseth called the video,
a quote, politically motivated influence operation.
Senator Kelly explaining why the lawmakers use the
words they did.
We basically repeated the uniform code of military
justice.
And they're saying that's in violation of the
uniform code of military justice.
It's absurd.
The defense secretary continues to attack Senator Mark
Kelly.
Now sending a letter to the secretary of
the Navy, asking for a review of his
comments for potentially unlawful conduct, saying he wants
to be briefed on the matter.
No later than December 10th, David.
No, we after the Thanksgiving day holiday and
a couple of, Hey, by the way, are
you guys celebrating Thanksgiving today or in December?
Come on.
it's not that we have a dinner today,
but we're Thanksgiving.
We either be tomorrow or Saturday.
Okay.
Why do it on the day?
Why?
It doesn't make sense.
No, it makes no sense.
So, um, okay.
Let's just say the alphabetical order CBS.
This 90 second long video threats to our
constitution.
Aren't just coming from abroad has ignited a
week of controversy and now an inquiry by
the FBI into the six democratic members of
Congress who recorded and who urged service members
not to follow unlawful orders must refuse illegal
orders.
All six are veterans of the military or
the intelligence community.
CBS news has learned.
The FBI told congressional leaders Monday that the
Bureau wants to speak with each of them.
Michigan Senator Alyssa Slotkin is one.
The president's reaction and the use of the
FBI against us is exactly why we made
the video.
He believes in using the federal government against
his perceived adversaries.
And he's not afraid to use the arms
of the government against people.
He disagrees with defense secretary, Pete Hegseth launched
a separate probe of Senator Mark Kelly, a
retired Navy captain, accusing Kelly of misconduct and
threatening him with a court martial.
I'm not going to be silenced.
I'm not going to be intimidated.
Last week, president Trump accused the Democrats of
seditious behavior, punishable by death.
Each of the six say they've since been
menaced by death.
True.
Colorado.
Say what?
He didn't accuse anybody who Trump.
No, he's just said sedition is, you know,
whatever.
Punishable by death.
He didn't say this guy did it.
Accusing Kelly of misconduct and threatening him with
a court martial.
I'm not going to be silenced.
I'm not going to be intimidated.
Last week, president Trump accused the Democrats of
seditious behavior, punishable by death.
Each of the six say they've since been
menaced by death threats.
Colorado Democrat, Jason Crowe released some audio of
the calls.
You deserve to die.
I hope you all get murdered.
White House press secretary, Caroline Leavitt said the
Democrats who recorded the video need to be
held accountable.
You can't have a functioning military.
If there is disorder and chaos within the
ranks.
Just because there's an inquiry doesn't mean somebody
is the target of a criminal investigation.
And these members of Congress have a number
of defenses and the literal truth.
Military service members are to disregard unlawful orders
and they have First amendment rights on steroids.
They have a speech and debate clause protecting
their speech uniquely, but John and Maurice, just
the inquiry itself has a cost financial time
and energy for these six Democrats.
No.
So there was a lie in there about
the Trump.
And there was also a lie at the
end because they do have this special speech
exemption on the floor of the Congress.
Yep.
They do.
Not while you're floating around, not on a
video that you did in your studio.
Yeah, that's true.
So that was really poor CBS.
This is a, where's Barry Weiss?
By the way, we're never going to let
this up.
Where's Barry?
Barry, what are you doing?
Get on the, get on the ball girl.
Barry Weiss.
Why isn't she putting her, you know, impromptu
tour on this thing.
Okay.
Let's go to the NBC.
Tonight, an escalating clash between the president and
Democrats.
Over rules governing military orders.
The FBI is seeking interviews with these six
lawmakers, according to a person familiar with plans
and those Democrats pushed back.
President Trump is using the FBI as a
tool to intimidate and harass members of Congress.
You can refuse illegal orders.
The video to troops by Democrats with military
and Intel experience did not identify any specific
orders.
The white house says it undercuts the commander
in chief.
They can't identify illegal orders because there are
no illegal orders.
Arizona Senator Mark Kelly, a retired Navy combat
pilot responding.
Rachel, I'm not going to be silenced.
I'm not going to be intimidated.
Separately.
Partisanship made its way into a typically politics,
free tradition.
Gobble and waddle the Turkey.
Pardon the president again, pressuring Democratic leadership over
crime in Illinois.
We've been, uh, moving towards Chicago.
Oh, I love, I love the nat pop.
Gobble and waddle.
That's perfect.
So, uh, so these reports were slanted very
slightly, uh, without just even disregarding the lies
that are in the CBS report.
Uh, but there was no balance at all
whatsoever.
It was all these, you know, this using
the FBI as a bludgeon.
Uh, so, so to, to balance it, I
found a guy that's, and I, I did
some research on him, this buzz, uh, Patterson
character who was in the Clinton, uh, administration.
And he was, uh, a military, he's a
military guy with high, he's very highly regarded.
He did a couple of books.
Uh, he's, he's was in the Clinton administration,
even though he turned into a Republican afterwards.
I mean, he may have been all the
time.
And so I just checked him out.
So he's legit.
So this would have been a nice guy
to put in there as a balancing point.
So, Oh, excuse me.
Uh, can I get Barry Weiss online?
John C.
Dvorak wants to head up the news desk.
So anybody could figure this out.
You could get somebody to say, they won't
do it.
They would never put something like this on.
This is no, uh, not Fox does.
They bring all these military guys on and
say, yeah, the good, those guys are doofus
is dumb.
They were stupid.
That was, and they go on and on.
But this guy, this was posted on his
Twitter account by him.
Uh, and I thought it would have been
a good to balance your coverage a little
bit.
You'd have something like this.
Hey everybody.
This is Buzz Patterson.
I'm a retired air force, Lieutenant Colonel, retired
air force pilot, combat veteran.
And, uh, at one time I was the
military aid to president Bill Clinton and carry
the nuclear football and actually lived in the
white house.
Uh, I've been around.
I was actually doing my military service deployed
to 70 countries and fought in three wars.
These are her, his bona fides, bona fides.
So I feel like I've got, um, a,
a dog in this hunt.
I am very appalled at what this edition
six is done with their video.
I think it's a violation of their oaths
of office, especially in the case of Senator
Mark Kelly.
I believe it's a violation of the UCMJ
and I hope that president Trump and secretary
of war Pete Hegseth hold them accountable.
They are violating and they're politically using their
positions to undercut the command of president Donald
J.
Trump.
And they're circumventing the chain of command that
Congress and members of Senate are not in
the chain of command.
President Trump is, however, as our commander in
chief.
So I fully support, uh, going forward, uh,
with, with whatever prosecutions are, are warranted and
legitimate.
And I think they are, uh, on these,
on these, uh, individuals.
Uh, they use their positions, military and, and
in the intelligence community to, uh, to expose,
I think, and put at risk those of
us who serve in uniform.
I think that what's going to happen is
because they violated the military chain of command,
people are going to die.
They undercut the underpinnings of the military, which
is good order and faith and trust in
their leadership.
In my estimation, what they did was treasonous
and seditionist.
And I hope they are prosecuted to the
full extent.
Okay.
So before I give you some analysis that
I have, uh, I really thought this was
mainly about the, the ships, the drug boats
that they're blowing out of the water.
What did you think it was about?
I don't think it was, I, I can't
say that I know what it was about
or why it was done.
I mean, it was one of the, cause
Schumer does these things out of the blue.
And, but if you wanted to take the
position that it was about the drug boats,
because it's, it's sketchy, I don't think there's
any doubt about that.
Well, in my mind, I mean, it's no
different than what Obama did.
We've been through that, but you are, you
are the one.
I'm not going to stop.
You were the one that put me on
the track of they're making such a big
deal about, oh no, I'm sorry.
You said they're going to be impeached over
it.
If the Democrats win in the midterms, they
will impeach Trump over the drug boats.
That was what you said.
Yes.
And I still believe that to be true.
Wouldn't it be a total Schumer move?
Yeah.
Do this.
Softening the body punches.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Soften up the published mentality for this sort
of.
Yes.
Okay.
So, and to me, it's like, that's it.
That's what it was about.
And that made a lot of sense.
Yeah.
I'm not going to argue against you on
this.
No, because I don't have any counter arguments
against that thinking.
You don't have to say that every single,
you can just say, yeah, I agree.
That's fine.
You don't have to go like, I try,
I try to vary it.
I make it.
No, you're great.
You're right.
You're terrific.
I can't imagine a better analysis.
You've never say that.
You could just say, I agree.
You're good.
You're good to go.
I can say that.
Yeah.
But you could not, you can't get it
out of your mouth.
I agree.
That's okay.
I agree.
I, what you just said, I agree.
I can't get it out of my mouth.
I agree.
I can't get it out of my mouth.
I can't do it.
So, we have a producer who was uniquely
qualified to analyze this case.
And that is Rob, the constitutional lawyer, uh,
before private practice, he was a JAG, a
military lawyer.
So, he knows this stuff.
And he gave me, of course, a very
detailed analysis, which I will not go through
all the way.
But he did say that there's some, there's
some interesting sides to this, depending on how,
what they said is interpreted.
Besides the UCMJ, the military code, there are
provisions in the U.S. code that apply
to civilians as well.
Uh, most notably, the anti-Tokyo Rose statute.
Did you even know this existed?
this is good.
Okay.
I didn't even know this existed.
Uh, so you give a little background.
Uh, hold on a second.
Let's ask the bot.
Uh, who was Tokyo Rose?
Tell me about her.
Tokyo Rose was a name given to English
speaking women who worked for Japanese propaganda stations
during World War II, broadcasting to allied troops.
The most well-known of these women was
Iva Atagori Daquino.
Is there anything specific you'd like to learn
about her?
Nope, that's fine.
Uh, I thought it was only one.
I didn't know there was more than one,
uh, Tokyo Rose.
So anyway, Tokyo Rose, that one she mentioned
is the famous one.
Yeah.
And so she was demoralizing the troops.
Let's put it that way.
Yeah, well, she, the Germans had a guy,
a bunch of guys doing this too.
They had it over a certain, they were
actually have some recordings.
Interestingly, those were British agents.
I just learned those German, uh, broadcasters who
were broadcasting into Germany around 43 British agents.
Different story for a different time.
No, I'm talking about Germans broadcasting to England.
Oh, okay.
So, so the anti-Tokyo Rose statute makes
it unlawful to foment insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or
refusal of duty by any military member.
He says this is pretty broad.
Uh, okay.
Well, now you have to, I have to
stop you.
I'll have to pull a Kara.
Uh, why hasn't, I, this is the first
I've heard of this.
Why hasn't any of these commentators, why haven't
any of the commentators on all the networks
of all this, the, the Barry Weiss run
operation at CBS and everybody else in between.
How come not one person has said, our
guy can come up with this.
Check your bank account.
Do you have 150 million for your podcast?
No, that's why we have one thing.
We've got producers.
We've got the best producers in the universe.
I'm with you on that.
I agree.
I agree with your annoyance.
Um, he says, although two, three, eight, seven
is a civilian statute.
It can still be used in a court
martial by charging it under UCMJ articles.
One 33, one 34.
These are conduct unbecoming of an officer and
a gentleman.
Wow.
That's a great title for a movie.
Which makes it an offense for an officer
to engage in basically any conduct that a
court martial may find unbecoming.
Yes.
As Rob, that's pretty dang, he's Texan, pretty
dang broad.
It would make a violation of two, three,
eight, seven, uh, which is makes it an
offense for any troop officer or enlisted to
engage in any conduct that discredits the armed
forces or is in prejudicial or is prejud,
pre prejudicial to good order and discipline.
Again, broad enough to encompass the violation of
prejudicial prejudicial.
Yes.
Um, now could Kelly be convicted?
Rob doubts it.
He says, um, the six Democrats are suggesting
that lawful orders are in fact unlawful.
And if they are suggesting that, which is
really an interpretation of the language, cause they
didn't really, they said unlawful laws.
They didn't say lawful, lawful orders that are
unlawful.
They said unlawful orders.
Uh, Kelly situation could become interesting in that
case.
Um, if he was, he could be recalled
to active duty and then they could prosecute
him.
Um, but his conclusion really is, unless we're
going for the Tokyo Rose option, uh, he
doesn't think that, uh, anything that was said
would support a conviction.
Okay.
That brings me to a, a meta point.
We're not going with the Tokyo Rose thing.
It's not mentioned by anybody, even the administration,
except for anybody else, because they know they
could use that and it would work.
They don't want it to work.
Ah, meta, very meta.
Yeah.
That's why we were stunned.
By, or I'm stunned.
I know you're, maybe we're stunned when you
got the note, you're not stunned.
Now, when it comes to, with the Tokyo
Rose analysis, they're not going to, but no
one's going to bring it up because they
don't want to actually pursue it to an
extreme where, where Mark Kelly would get thrown
in the slammer.
Cause it would cause a, it would be
a great publicity stunt though.
Same way it works against Democrats when they
tried to put Trump in jail, his popularity
zoomed and he got to be president again.
You can't take a chance.
Good point.
There's no way I can argue that with
you.
That's one of my phrases.
Yes.
No kidding.
So that would explain the, the, the non
appearance of the Tokyo Rose commentary on the
networks.
Yeah.
And within the administration, you know, some smart,
smarty pants that was in the press room
could throw it at Carolyn Leavitt, but that
exact same thing.
It would start, it would stir up a
problem.
I mean, we're the only ones mentioning it.
It'll never get brought up by anybody.
I don't know if Trump even knows about
it because he could put all kinds of
fun labels, you know, Tokyo Kelly Rose, you
know, he could do all kinds of stuff
like that and he would have, he could
have a field day with it.
So I, I think we're in agreement that
it's, it's going nowhere.
It's fun for the Thanksgiving holiday, Republican, you
know, this is like Comer, James Comer's, Oh,
we got, we got, we connected the dots.
We got a hundred buttons, all the bank
accounts.
So we're going to get them.
We're going to get them.
Nothing ever comes of it.
This is all theater of dimensional theater.
It's ridiculous.
Well, then there's another legal battle that took
place, which I got, I finally found a
report that mentioned the two important words.
I had to get it from Canada.
This is about Comey and Letitia James.
For the white house.
It's an embarrassing double defeat.
The rushed and politically directed prosecutions of New
York attorney general, Letitia James and former FBI
director, James Comey.
I'm grateful that the court ended the case
against me, which was a prosecution based on
malevolence and incompetence.
The cases fell apart after a federal judge
ruled prosecutor, Lindsey Halligan was illegally appointed, nullifying
her work.
The department of justice will be appealing very
soon.
And it is our position that Lindsey Halligan
is extremely qualified for this position, but more
importantly was legally appointed.
Halligan had never prosecuted a case before, but
was handpicked by president Donald Trump to go
after his perceived enemies.
After career prosecutors warned, there wasn't enough evidence
to move ahead.
One way or the other, one way or
the other, not guilty.
We have to act fast.
The case is a mess and it's really
amateur hour there at the DOJ.
And it's really their own doing because of
the timing and the experience of the prosecutor
they put on the scale.
While grand juries later indicted both Comey and
James, the cases were always considered legally shaky
and open to claims of vindictive prosecution.
This is nothing more than a continuation of
the president's desperate weaponization of our justice system.
The failure is a major blow to Trump's
efforts to bend the justice system to his
will.
There's little reason to think it will end
the president's demands for specific prosecution.
The cases against both Comey and James were
dismissed without prejudice, meaning they can be brought
again, but that's assuming the administration can actually
find another prosecutor who's willing to take them
on.
Where'd this report come from?
Canada.
That's the most slanted report I've heard for
a long time.
Well, except for trying to bend him to
his will.
Yeah, but my point, all reports were like
that, but they at least mentioned without prejudice
because this wasn't about them not being guilty.
But if you believe, believe the headlines and
the lower thirds and the breaking newsflash, you'd
think, oh, well, the double defeat, they're out.
They got off.
It was, it was a, what?
Stop the presses.
Um, so without prejudice means, okay, so you
can just bring it again.
Now there's some statute of limitations.
We also have with prejudice, which means you
can't, you can't.
Yes, but there's some statute of limitations which
expired or expired.
And so it's, uh, hopefully they'll still be
able to get him because of all the
people.
Comey is definitely a rat, definitely no good.
That guy, no good.
And then he did the comment that was
in that clip where he, where he, he,
he never lets up.
He's just asking for trouble.
He says, and there are a bunch of
millennia bastard.
I don't know what he said, but it
was, it was negative.
I think I have the, I have this
from PBS.
I have to say the report about this,
uh, or actually, that's not about this specifically.
It's about the other stuff.
Whereas indictments, uh, where Trump's indictments have kicked
that been kicked.
End of a chapter in American history.
The final criminal charges against president Donald Trump
have been dropped after a prosecutor in Georgia
moved to dismiss the case, focused on a
push to overturn the 2020 election results in
the state.
The president, as we remember, was one of
19 suspects.
Uh, that's his mugshot back then.
Uh, including his former chief of staff, Mark
Meadows, uh, as well as for me, former
attorney, Rudy Giuliani.
Uh, what happened today?
I want to remind our viewers that this
was all precipitated by a phone call, an
infamous phone call now between president Trump and
Georgia secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger.
So what are we going to do here?
Folks?
I only need 11,000 votes.
Tell us, I need 11,000 votes.
Give me a break.
Uh, you know, we have that in spades
already.
Nick, that phone call happened at the beginning
of January in 2021 by February, just a
month later, the district attorney in Fulton County,
Georgia, Fannie Willis had opened a criminal investigation
into that phone call and whether the president
was pressuring the secretary of state to overturn
the election results in Georgia.
This resulted in a long legal battle, and
there were criminal charges that were brought against
the president and these 18 other co-defendants
in August of 2023.
Now this was considered a Rico or a
racketeering case.
It was sweeping.
There were different charges against different defendants here,
but this was all a number of people
that are high profile.
And that I think our viewers would remember
Mark Meadows, the former white house, chief of
staff, Rudy Giuliani, the president's personal attorney were
caught up in this as well.
These charges were all dismissed today by the
special prosecutor down there who has just recently
been appointed to oversee this.
He asked for these charges to be formally
dismissed by the judge, basically saying that he
does not think that there is enough information
to bring this.
You know, before you continue, there's an interesting,
interesting timing on this.
There's a couple of guys doing the rounds
on the podcasts, notably Gary Bernson.
And he showed up on going rogue with
Laura Logan.
So you know that there's more behind it.
And he, he wrote, he wrote a book
and it's, it's nothing that we haven't heard
before, but he lays it out and I
don't have any clips of it.
You can go listen to the podcast.
He lays out pretty well how the dominion
voting machines were rigged with software from, I
want to say it's semantic, semantic or something.
And that that software, and this is why
the timing is so interesting.
And this was all funded by Patrick Byrne,
the former overstock CEO.
You recall he was in and out of
the white house at the time with everybody
else.
It completely vindicates.
He's the guy who Patrick Byrne is also
the guy.
We played the clip Clinton with Hillary Clinton,
FBI drop set up for the bribe.
Right.
So it completely believable.
And they, and this book retraces the history
of the vote changing software, which is just
as, as a vibe coder, completely believable.
We've heard this so many times.
There's been some forensic evidence that we've seen.
I mean, there's been so much throughout, throughout
the years since the, since the 2020 election.
But it is all completely traced back to
stop before the 2020 election.
We have to go back.
Be way before that.
When the George W.
Bush election, when they had the D bold
machines.
Yes.
Or die bold.
Completely different company making the same election was
easy.
And they were supposedly rigged.
That's the only way Bush could win.
It was the Republicans rigging the machines supposedly
again.
And everyone bitched and moaned and groaned about
it.
And then the Democrats turned the tables and
now they have the machines.
And it's a different company.
Diebold had stopped making the machines because it
was, I don't know.
I'd like to look into how that happened.
Well, when you follow the history of these
electronic voting machines, it's all based on the
same software.
The software kept getting sold to different companies.
So it was the software that just got
put into new hardware, but going all the
way back.
And here's where it gets interesting.
This software was first used to steal an
election in Venezuela.
So you see how things, there's all these
things happening kind of at the same minute.
We've got a whole fleet offshore there.
We're bombing.
Right.
A lot of stuff going on.
So, you know, too many coincidences.
Exactly.
Coincidence?
I think not.
No coincidences.
All right, let's continue.
This is part two of your PBS.
It is too sweeping of an indictment and
it would take too long because the president
is a sitting president right now.
He does not believe he can charge a
sitting president.
So tell us more about this prosecutor.
And as you were saying, you know, why
does he feel like this case needed to
be dropped?
Peter Skandalakis is the prosecutor that took over
for Fannie Willis there when she was taken
off of this case.
There was some legal drama around that.
He took over this case just recently and
he released this 23 page filing today.
And I spoke earlier today with Gene Rossi,
who's a former federal prosecutor, and he offered
his interpretation of why this was dismissed.
And the word T-O-O comes to
mind here.
This indictment had too many defendants, including president
Trump.
It had too many counts and it was
going to take too long to try this
case if they did it in one trial.
And when I'm reading this decision by this
special prosecutor, I get the impression he looked
at this indictment and he said, what a
hot mess.
It's just a lot of things put together.
A hodgepodge of charges, allegations.
And frankly, he didn't like it.
And he didn't like it that it was
against the sitting president.
And Nick, Peter Skandalakis also wrote today in
this decision, this legal filing.
He said that given the complexity of the
legal issues at hand, bringing this case before
a jury in 2029, 2030, or even 2031
would be nothing short of a remarkable feat.
Is this the end?
It sounds like it is.
According to Skandalakis.
I mean, he has asked the judge in
this case to fully dismiss all of the
charges against the president and these other 18
co-defendants here.
Yeah.
That had to be cleaned up.
Probably right.
Yeah.
But the jokes on the poor guys who
did the plea deal and his last clip
kind of brings that out.
Yeah.
They're sorry.
They're screwed.
Rossi also sort of summed this up, I
think nicely too.
I think a snowball in a certain part
of the world has a better chance of
survival.
Uh, than this case, this case is dead
and, I can't see how it could possibly
be resurrected in Georgia or in any other
state.
And this is overall a win for the
president and for his allies here.
And the president posting about this on truth
social today, uh, saying that justice had prevailed
here.
Justice has prevailed.
You know, I just thought of another instance,
Obama and Romney.
Do you remember watching that?
Those results coming back and all of a
sudden, boom, Obama just skyrocketed over Romney and
he just went home.
Yeah.
You know, it's, it's a mess.
Romney was one of the worst candidates they've
ever had.
Well, still, he didn't try hard.
He was doing, he was, we saw the
results.
The way that just flipped on a dime
was crazy.
Whether he was going to win or not.
I mean, we just all saw it like
what?
Yeah, that was, that was totally, that was,
we weren't thinking about rigged voting machines.
That was triple.
Yeah.
I mean, you first, you put up a
weak candidate and they, even if he starts
to win, you it's rigged every which way
that guy was, uh, it was turned out
to be a bonehead anyway.
So then we have the next bit of
shenanigans, which is the leaked phone call, which
is on par with, um, Trump's leaked phone
call with Zelensky, which they impeached them over,
which, as you know, was a perfect phone
call.
It was, it was perfect.
So here's, uh, this is a CNN.
The fallout continues after a phone conversation between
special envoy, Steve Woodcoff and a top Putin
aid, Yuri Yushakov.
That conversation was leaked to Bloomberg in the
October 14th call.
Woodcoff appears to coach his Russian counterpart on
how to approach president Trump ahead of a
scheduled meeting with Ukraine's president, Vladimir Zelensky.
According to Bloomberg, Woodcoff says in the call
quote, Yuri, Yuri, here's what I would do.
My recommendation.
Wow.
I like, I like the acting.
Let me read this.
Yuri, Yuri.
I'm the, now I'm in the role.
I'm completely, I'm now I'm Steve Woodcoff.
Vladimir Zelensky, according to Bloomberg, Woodcoff says in
the call quote, Yuri, Yuri, here's what I
would do.
My recommendation.
And then Yushakov replies.
Yes, please.
Woodcoff continues.
I would make the call and just reiterate
that you congratulate the president on his achievement,
that you supported it, that you supported it,
and you respect that he's a man of
peace and you're just really glad to have
seen it happen.
They were talking about the deal at that
point between Israel and Hamas over Gaza.
Later in the conversation, according to Bloomberg, Woodcoff
says, me to you.
I know what it's going to take to
get a peace deal done, done yet.
It may be a land swap somewhere, but
I'm saying instead of talking like that, let's
talk more hopefully because I think we're going
to get a deal here.
Now, president Trump last night appeared to brush
off the call saying it was quote, a
standard thing.
Wait a minute.
President Trump appeared to brush off the call.
Did, did, did he have a big balloon
bubble over his head that says, Oh man,
I'm in trouble.
I mean, what, what is, how about president
Trump brushed off the call?
Why is he saying appeared?
Oh, Oh, that's an interview.
That's a great catch.
Now that you mentioned it, um, he is,
he has appeared to make it seem as
though he's two faced.
In other words, he's saying one thing and
doing another.
And instead of, you know, we're always trying
to promote or we, not we, but the,
the Republicans are trying to promote Trump as
a truth teller.
And he never doesn't do this kind of
shenanigans where he's, where he's saying one thing
and doing another, he's doing what he says
he's going to do.
And he does it.
And so do you, to use the word
appeared means he might not be sincere.
Yes.
But I'm saying to the eyes of the
reporter, yes.
Instead of talking like that, let's talk more,
hopefully, because I think we're going to get
a deal here.
Now, president Trump last night appeared to brush
off the call saying it was quote a
standard thing.
Meanwhile, supporters of Ukraine and Congress, including some
Republicans are up in arms among them.
Stop again.
I have to say that this is an
example of what, you know, Scott Adams always
likes to say is mind reading.
No, of course.
Yeah.
They do this way too much.
And the news media is always constantly mind
reading.
He did.
He, he brushed off the call.
You're right.
Meanwhile, supporters of Ukraine and Congress, including some
Republicans are up in arms.
His Republican Congressman, Don Bacon from Nebraska, who
posted this on social media for those who
oppose the Russian invasion and want to see
Ukraine prevail as a sovereign and democratic country.
It is clear that would cough fully favors
the Russians.
He cannot be trusted to lead these negotiations.
What a Russian paid agent do less than
he, he should be fired.
All right.
So we're smoking out more people from the
Republican party here.
Yes.
There's a, that guy's a good example.
I have this, I have that's the report
that you just played.
I have the PBS version of it, which
includes this actually may be funnier.
Cause they, they don't, they play it down
to such a screwball way.
This is the clips called Ukraine war update
today.
U S officials told PBS news hour, they
are making progress toward a document designed to
end the nearly four year grinding war.
But today in Ukraine, the war raged on
today in Ukraine, civilians pay the price of
war terrified residents of Zaporizhzhia.
Who else is supposed to pray that that's
always civilians.
What does that, what does that even mean?
Civilians pay the price.
Of course, human beings pay the price.
Terrified residents of Zaporizhzhia watch their homes burn.
They grab prize possessions and feel peace is
impossibly far asked about us diplomacy.
I don't know what to think.
Looking at what's happened.
This doesn't feel much like a peace plan.
Do you believe in peace?
No.
If I let myself believe that then peace
will come at a very high cost.
The cost of our lives.
The first draft of the U S peace
plan required Ukraine to reduce the size of
its military by almost a third abandoned ambitions
to join NATO and give up and demilitarize
territory in Donetsk that Russia has failed to
seize despite 11 years of war.
Recently, Russia's called the fall of Donetsk inevitable
position.
What did you hear what he said in
there?
He just slipped it in the fog of
war.
No, they said 11 years.
Oh, rise territory in Donetsk that Russia has
failed to seize despite 11 years of war.
It's not been 11 years.
Well, they're going, but they're counting from 2014,
2014.
Yeah, they're going back, but that's not when
the war started, not the full scale invasion.
There was just a kind of what was
going on then?
What, I mean, they took Crimea and then
everything kind of came to a stand.
There was no war going on.
These, these people at PBS want war.
Well, somebody, yes.
Well, it's 11 years of war.
It's a little, I think 11 years of
war makes it a little more like a
more historic.
Yeah.
Russia bad.
Recently, Russia's called the fall of Donetsk inevitable,
a position endorsed last night by president Trump.
If you look, it's just moving in one
direction.
So eventually that's land that over the next
couple of months might be gotten by Russia
anyway.
Today, Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky called that assessment.
Unacceptable.
I'm an actor.
Dammit.
All right.
You kind of, you kind of moving away
from where I wanted to go, but I'll
stick with it.
Yeah.
But this next clip is, is brings us
back to kind of what you were playing
a minute ago.
Okay.
Russians are peddling the narrative around the world
that Ukraine allegedly cannot defend itself.
The daily results of our special forces in
our deep strikes.
These are all proof that Ukraine can defend
its interests.
It is not Ukraine that must be pressured
for peace, but Russia, US and European officials
tell PBS news.
Our recent negotiations have produced significant edits and
agreements on most points, but Ukraine wants the
most difficult decision about giving up territory discussed
directly by presidents, Trump and Zelensky next week,
special envoy Steve Whitcoff will go to Russia
to meet Vladimir Putin, who today described progress.
I'll be happy to inform you about the
direction of achieving acceptable and sought after results
for us in Ukraine by peaceful means.
Russia's confidence in a US deal is now
reflected by Whitcoff's own words.
Yesterday, Bloomberg published an unprecedented leaked transcript of
a phone conversation between Whitcoff and Putin's top
foreign policy aid, Yuri Ushakov.
Whitcoff told Ushakov, I have the deepest respect
for president Putin.
And Whitcoff advised Ushakov on how Putin should
speak to Trump.
Congratulate the president on this achievement of a
ceasefire in Gaza.
In Ukraine, Whitcoff said, I know what it's
going to take to get a peace deal
done.
Donetsk and maybe a land swap somewhere.
But I'm saying instead of talking like that,
let's talk more hopefully, because I think we're
going to get a deal here.
In response, Nebraska Republican Don Bacon, who's retiring,
said Whitcoff should be fired.
The Nebraska guy is out.
Is he up for primary?
He's done.
This is, this is a beneficiary side thing
that's happening in this op.
This is so he can become a board
member at Lockheed Martin.
Are they in Nebraska?
No, no, but he can move.
All right.
And by the way, he can travel.
Part three.
And Pennsylvania Republican Brian Fitzpatrick said Secretary of
State Marco Rubio should be allowed to do
his job.
But President Trump defended Whitcoff.
I haven't heard it, but I heard it
was standard negotiation.
So you're not worried that he's too pro
-Russian?
No, I think, look, this war could go
on for years and Russia's got a lot
more people, a lot more soldiers.
As for Ushakov, he said today the transcript
was published to divide Washington from Moscow.
To interfere with us.
It's unlikely it was done to improve the
relationship.
But most European officials want the Washington Moscow
relationship to become more adversarial.
In any peace agreement, we have to put
the focus on how to get concessions from
Russia.
Who's this?
Who's this lady?
Where's she from?
She just jumps in all of a sudden
and got a quasi Russian British accent.
What is this?
Yeah.
Who is this lady?
She just, I don't know.
Just appears out of nowhere.
But most European officials want the Washington Moscow
relationship to become more adversarial.
In any peace agreement, we have to put
the focus on how to get concessions from
Russian side, that they stop aggression for good
and do not try to change borders by
force.
The Ukrainian.
In addition to Whitkoff's travel to Russia next
week, Secretary of the Army Dan Driscoll will
continue to speak to the Ukrainians after he
returned to the U.S. today.
Okay.
So before I, I have a couple of
clips here.
Before I get to that, very little is
said or talked about how this got leaked
to Bloomberg.
And why Bloomberg?
You know, it's an interesting outfit to leak
something to.
I got one article from Newsweek.
Who leaked Steve Whitkoff's phone call with Russia?
Three potential suspects.
Now, something about Newsweek.
Newsweek is the CIA spook memo.
And I know this because when we move
to Europe, even with its new owners.
Well, that's a good question.
That I don't know, but I know that
news, all the spies had Newsweek.
Okay.
So traditionally, traditionally, traditionally.
Okay.
Now they come up with three suspects.
One U.S. intelligence operatives.
Now, if it's still a CIA publication, then
this is just to, you know, I, I
don't know.
Seems to make it sound legit.
Yeah, that would be.
Yeah.
Put them at the top.
Number two, NATO nation, which I'm, I'm going
to say is possible.
And number three, Russia.
Which I pull this stunt constantly.
Very possible because Russia, the Russians are the
ones who get the cool phone calls.
Yeah.
They, they tap calls and they're in good
shape.
That's the FDU clip that we have from
Newland.
Yep.
They came obviously from Russia.
Although this time we didn't hear the call.
We only got the transcript that Bloomberg says
they made from the recordings.
Ah, so this would be.
Okay.
That's a little different because the most, you
get more impact when you actually hear the
call.
Yes.
So, so I'm, I'm suspicious.
Now, do I think this could be possibly
British intelligence?
That's kind of where I'm leaning because this
whole thing was North Sea Nexus.
This whole thing was really set up to
convey one single message.
Trump.
No, sorry.
Multiple sided message.
Trump is an idiot.
He needs you to kiss his ass all
the time.
And this is basically the Russian plan.
So that, so this was done to clear
the deal.
Yes.
To clear the, to clear the deal.
Here is France 24 and he's back.
Douchebag Doug explains the call.
Yeah.
Telephone call, the audio files of which excerpts
of which were reviewed by the Bloomberg News
Agency.
And it is the original source of this
call.
Look, look, anyone who is skeptical or has
doubts that the Trump peace plan defaults to
a pro Kremlin.
A pro Putin stance, i.e. that the
U.S. is really all about ultimately pushing
Ukraine to accept a deal that amounts to
either capitulation or something that's not really going
to secure its long term interest.
This call is not going to be happy
listening or in the case of the transcript
reading of the transcript.
Steve Whitcoft, Donald Putin's top envoy to cut.
Did you hear it again?
He is so anti Trump.
And so convinced that Trump is just working
for Putin.
This comes out of his mouth.
This call is not going to be happy
listening or in the case of the transcript
reading of the transcript.
Steve Whitcoft, Donald Putin's top envoy to cut
to the Donald Putin's top envoy.
I missed it.
Did you hear it?
I would play it one more time.
He says Steve Whitcoft, Donald Putin's top envoy.
This call is not going to be happy
listening or in the case of the transcript
reading of the transcript.
Steve Whitcoft, Donald Putin's top envoy to cut
to the chase.
Yeah.
I don't know why.
It's hard to hear.
But once you once you you're tuned to
it, there it is.
This is what we do.
I mean, Donald Putin.
OK.
And the lady sitting at the desk doesn't
bat an eye.
She doesn't.
I don't know if she heard it.
She's probably like, I mean, no, I don't
think she did because it's hard to hear.
The guy has a monotonic type of presentation.
That's hard to pick up on Donald.
He's not good.
And so he says Donald Putin.
Wow.
That's actually a good show.
Reading of the transcript.
Steve Whitcoft, Donald Putin's top envoy to cut
to the chase with with Ukraine held a
phone conversation five minutes back on October 14th,
according to this transcript with Yuri Ushakov.
Now, Yuri Ushakov is Vladimir Putin's top foreign
policy adviser.
Now, the call when you read the transcript
reads not like one side.
You are a man representing U.S. interests
in this plan trying to get the best
deal for Russia and Ukraine.
On the other side, the Russians trying to
get their own best interest.
It almost sounds like a coach talk, a
pep talk that Whitcoff is trying to give
Ushakov.
He's basically saying we need to work together
to get this peace deal done.
And he's also telling him how to.
Doug says that as if it's a bad
thing.
Like, I can't believe he was saying to
him, we need to work together to get
the get this peace deal done.
Yeah, that's another good catch.
Yeah, that's the whole point of this is
trying to give Ushakov.
He's basically saying we need to work together
to get this peace deal done.
And he's also telling him how to sort
of butter up Trump.
That is, you know, coaxing him to to
have Putin, his boss, that is Putin, congratulate
Trump on the recently then unveiled Gaza peace
plan, calling Trump a man of peace, so
on and so forth.
So that they can then work together.
Oh, goodness.
How horrible.
Work together to stop the war.
And so on and so forth.
So then the red queen decloaks in the
European Parliament.
Queen Ursula comes out and she's pissed.
I can't believe that they're not working with
us.
This is no good.
You can't do that.
Europe must keep the pressure on Russia.
The tone used on Wednesday by the president
of the European Commission was determined.
Speaking before the European Parliament, Ursula von der
Leyen emphasized that Moscow's objective has not changed
since the start of the invasion of Ukraine.
Russia's playbook has not changed.
What is the playbook?
What is Russia's playbook?
She's going to tell us.
Russia has always believed that they can outlast
Ukraine, Europe and all of its allies.
And it is why every time there's serious
progress towards negotiations that can bring about a
real peace, the violence escalates.
We have seen this before.
This is a pattern.
And the noises from the Kremlin in the
last few days say a lot about its
real intentions.
Europe has been working for several days to
rebalance the 28-point peace plan initially proposed
by the United States without consulting its allies.
But the European effort has confirmed one essential
idea.
One principle has been accepted.
Nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine.
Nothing about Europe without Europe.
Nothing about NATO without NATO.
Sounds like three to me, Queen Ursula.
To provide financial support to Ukraine, Ursula von
der Leyen reminded the House that she had
proposed three options and made no secret of
her preference for the reparation loan, which involves
using frozen Russian assets valued at 210 billion
euros in the EU.
So this is how I take this.
She's yammering on about we're not involved.
But it really comes down to, hey, we
have three ways we can finance Ukraine because
we've got a big scam running here.
We got it.
We got a back end deal from those
corrupt dudes over there.
So, yeah, everyone they get 100 million.
We get 10 million, whatever it is.
There's a big military industrial complex build up.
They're making all this stuff.
They're building drone factories, whatever they're doing.
Just just going to take it face value.
They're all corrupt.
And where's the money going to come from?
And her preference is clearly that the money
has to come from the Russian frozen assets.
And I think that's the final piece of
the deal of this 20 or eight point
plan, which may now be a 19 point.
Who knows what it is?
I think that is what she's yammering about
is how do we get our hands on
that money?
You don't have the cards.
That is what Donald Trump told President Zelensky
earlier this year.
But Brussels thought it held an ace.
The frozen Russian assets.
Now the 28 point US peace plan has
called out Europe's hand and the port is
massive.
Estimated 300 billion euros in Russian central bank
assets are frozen across the G7 countries.
The vast majority, 185 billion euros is locked
right here in Belgium by Euroclear, a securities
depository.
Brussels plans to use the Russian frozen assets
to issue an unprecedented reparations loan for Ukraine.
But the US plan flips the script with
a controversial proposal.
Unblock the funds and split them into two
investment vehicles.
Fund number one for Ukraine's reconstruction.
100 billion dollars of the frozen assets would
be deployed and Europe would have to front
another 100 billion of its own cash.
The catch?
The US takes 50 percent of the profits.
Yeah.
Fund number two, a US-Russian joint venture.
The rest of the money will be invested
in projects for Moscow.
Far from paying reparations for attacking its neighbor,
the Kremlin is rewarded with a commercial opportunity.
The result?
Moscow gets a win.
Washington flips the profits and Europe loses its
main leverage.
Brussels is not at the table and it
may end up reduced to a spectator with
a very expensive bill to pay.
Yeah.
So like, oh, man, listen, Trump, what are
you doing?
We want to rebuild Ukraine with Russia's money.
So I think that's the last point, because,
of course, they don't really care about dead
people, just care about money.
How do we build some stuff up?
And this last.
This is risk.
The international banking system can't afford to even
think about this sort of thing.
If you're going to start just stealing people's
money, which, you know, the digital ID would
also do.
You might as well just forget about it.
It's going to collapse everything.
You can't do this.
Well, maybe that would be the city of
London and maybe that would be desirable.
For the, quote, unquote, international money system, which
runs through Euro clear, which is Brussels, which
is swift.
Maybe it's not a bad thing if that
collapses, because, you know, we got a stable
coin.
We'll take stable coin and everything with it.
And then we have another little gotcha coming
out.
It was like more and more messages toward
NATO that, yeah, I don't really know if
we want to be in NATO anymore.
U.S. Ambassador to NATO Matthew Whittaker has
suggested that Germany should eventually take over the
alliance's top military role, signaling a potential shift
in American leadership.
Whittaker said he looks.
When was NATO formed?
When?
Yeah.
Wasn't it formed to prevent Germany from having
another war?
Well, yeah.
Or was it just formed to stop the
Russians?
I think that is a question we should
ask the robot.
Let's see.
Why was NATO formed?
Was it to stop the Germans from creating
another war or was it to stop the
Russians?
NATO was formed in 1949 primarily to provide
collective security against the Soviet Union.
While the scars of World War Two were
still present, the main concern was the spread
of communism and the potential aggression from Russia.
Is there anything else you'd like to know
about NATO's founding?
No, I'd like to have.
So that makes no sense to give it
to the Germans so we can return to
the way it was.
Yes.
So Germany and Russia could go at it
again.
Yes.
Signaling a potential shift in American leadership.
Whittaker said he looks forward to the day
Germany says it's ready to take over the
Supreme Allied Commander position, known as SACEUR.
I'll bet they do.
He acknowledged this is a long-term aspirational
goal, but emphasized that Washington wants European military
capabilities to equal those of the US.
Traditionally, the SACEUR role has always been held
by a US general commanding both NATO forces
and American troops in Europe.
However, a German expert told Euronews that a
European commander would no longer have authority over
US troops, complicating the dual-headed nature of
the role.
Whittaker's comment comes amid fears of a US
retreat from European security, highlighted by a proposed
peace plan for Ukraine that is seen as
yet another sign of Washington stepping back from
its leadership role in NATO.
Yeah, I didn't hear that on the M5M
here in the US.
No, you didn't.
That's a good clip.
You could almost get an award for that.
So Trump is now doing these gaggles on
the plane, where he sticks his head out
of the little— No, no, this has been
going on too much.
It's noisy, it's stupid, you don't get to
see who the reporters are when he calls
somebody piggy.
Piggy.
Piggy, and they still don't want to—you know,
if they was actually calling somebody piggy, wouldn't
somebody have interviewed the piggy woman?
No, it hasn't happened because it wasn't true,
it was piggy.
Yeah.
So I play this, it's very short, it's
just about what the president thinks about Putin
and Ukraine.
But I run these through Eleven Lab's voice
isolator now, and tell me if it doesn't
sound like Trump sounds a bit like Christopher
Walken.
You know, that distinct, I really, it's a
good thing.
No, you're not even close, but I know
what you mean.
Yeah, let's listen.
We're having good, I don't know, he would
like to come, but I think we should
get a deal done first.
We're having good talks.
We started with Russia, we're having some talks
with Russia.
Ukraine is doing well, I think they're pretty
happy about it, they'd like to see it
end.
And we won't know for a little while,
but we're making progress.
We settled eight wars, and I thought this
would be one of the easier ones because
of my relationship with President Putin.
But this is probably one of the more
difficult ones.
There's a lot of hatred.
People are starting to realize it's a good
deal for both parties if they got to
stop the war.
They're losing a lot of people, a lot
of soldiers, mostly soldiers.
I guess it sounded more like that when
I was clipping it.
Yeah, it didn't sound like it much.
No, not much.
But I will say that's pretty astonishing, because
I know what those clips sound like.
Oh, yeah.
Well, it's 11 labs.
Paid.
If you pay for it, you get quality.
So, just in general, because the anonymous Austin
lobbyist pointed this out to me, I now
have a dialogue.
If I ever need any lobbying, we've got
the guy.
I don't know what we lobby for, but...
We lobby for what?
Keep podcasting alive.
There you go.
The podcasting bill.
He made a good observation, which I had
seen, but hadn't really put it all together.
So, Brett Weinstein had Richard Gage on the
Dark Horse podcast.
Now, he is a...
I think he's the architects for...
or engineers for 9-11 Truth, I believe.
Don't know.
Yeah, you know, just all of a sudden
talking about Building 7, Building 7, Building 7.
Tucker, in the same week, had Kristen Breitweiser
on.
She's one of the Jersey girls famous for
losing her husband on 9-11 in the
South Tower.
But Tucker had held on to this, because
this is what the anonymous lobbyist noticed, that
Tucker had changed his clothes.
And it was basically a three-week-old
interview.
But they put it all out in the
same week.
And I just wonder, is there something on
deck?
Is there something going to happen?
Because she's also talking about Building 7.
And then we realize that it was the
BBC that did that infamous report about Building
7 having collapsed 20 minutes before it did.
In fact, the BBC journalist is standing with
Building 7 in the background while she's reporting
it.
And it's fun just to listen to that
little piece again.
Now, more on the latest building collapse in
New York.
You might have heard a few moments ago
I was talking about the Salomon Brothers building
collapsing.
And indeed it has.
It seems that this was not a result
of a new attack.
I find it so interesting that he says
the Salomon Brothers building.
Everyone calls it WTC 7.
But he calls it the Salomon Brothers building
for some reason.
It has.
It seems that this was not a result
of a new attack.
It was because the building had been weakened
during this morning's attacks.
We'll probably find out more now about that
from our correspondent Jane Stanley.
Jane, what more can you tell us about
the Salomon Brothers building and its collapse?
Well, only really what you already know.
Details are very, very sketchy.
As you can see behind me, the Trade
Center appears to be still burning.
We see these huge clouds of smoke and
ash.
And we know that behind that there's an
empty piece of what was a very familiar
New York skyline, a symbol of the financial
prosperity of this city, but completely disappeared now.
And New York is still unable to take
on board what has happened to them today.
I just thought it was interesting that it's
all about the financial parts of the building,
the financial center, Salomon Brothers.
And they reported this 20 minutes before it
even happened.
I'm just saying, let's see if something comes
out, if we're heading towards something else.
Well, it could be a revelation.
Which would be pretty cool.
But...
You know, something that proves the thesis of
the fakeness of the whole thing.
Yeah.
Well, that was pretty lame.
That whole Building 7 thing has always been...
Pull it!
Yes.
Yeah, pull it.
Here we go, everybody.
And then I find out that Mr. Beast...
You know who Mr. Beast is, don't you?
Oh, yeah.
Mr. Beast.
Big money maker.
He makes more money than anybody.
He makes more money than Barry Wise.
Yeah, and he also throws it back in
the community to double up.
This guy's a marketing genius.
Well, he...
I don't follow him at all, but I
know that he's a marketing genius.
AP reports, Mr. Beast and the Rockefeller Foundation
are teaming up to spark youth philanthropy.
Oh, jeez.
Youth philanthropy?
The youth...
What are you talking about?
The zetters who have no money?
And you're trying to gouge those poor kids
for whatever little money they have?
They should be saving so they can buy
a house?
Well...
There should be no philanthropy coming from them.
None.
Maybe they should...
I don't know.
Maybe they're trying to use him for some
propagandistic reasons.
There's something...
That's not good, what you just said.
No, it's not good at all.
It's not good for his career.
Zetters, beware!
Exactly.
Take it from old farts.
You're going to get...
They're trying to take you for a...
Take you for a ride.
Put the bite on you for some reason.
Oh, they have a few bucks.
Let's get it from them.
This will be my last North Sea Nexus
clip.
LGBTQ...
Oh, but wait, before you go into this,
you never really concluded about the leak of
the Bloomberg thing.
I have to agree that it might be
MI6.
I'm thinking so much of this is MI6.
Because MI6 is pretty talented.
Yeah, they're...
We have James Bond.
Well, that's...
They're talented enough to create that bullcrap character.
Yes.
And make you think it goes that way.
When in fact, if people...
I recommend...
This is not a tip of the day,
but it's a movie that should be on
the list.
And No Agenda Fund should have it.
Which is The Spy Who Came In From
The Cold.
Oh, great movie.
One of the greatest movies ever made in
terms of spycraft and the bullcrap ideas where
they send somebody out on a mission and
he doesn't even know what the mission really
is because everything is a trick.
And also watch The Diplomat.
That gives you a little insight as well.
Yeah, but it doesn't have many twists.
It doesn't have this...
I like The Diplomat.
But it doesn't have...
It's not as...
The Spy Who Came In From The Cold
gives you the creeps.
So, when we think of LGBTQ, pro-abortion,
climate change, we've always seen this as the
population people.
That's where it all started.
The population bomb, too many people on the
earth.
And there was a...
Now, add to that assisted suicide.
Another good one.
There was a bill coming up in British
Parliament for an assisted suicide bill.
And in this rather short clip, Lord Brooke
tells us why it's a good idea and
why so many other of the British apparently
great ideas have helped the cause.
That's a minor change compared with this century's
growth in the world population from 6.1
billion to 8.2 billion.
A 25% increase in 25 years.
But just think what the 25 numbers would
be if abortion had not been legalized or
there had not been wide-scale usage and
advocacy of contraception.
And indeed, the growth of homosexuality throughout society
has reduced the number of children we would
have had.
Had the churches had their way, we would
have had a very much bigger population than
we presently have facing the difficulties we have
with climate change.
What?
If climate change doesn't kill them, you know,
thank God for homosexuality, abortion, and the contraception.
That crazy church, man, I'm glad they didn't
get away with it.
These people are ghouls.
No kidding.
That's just so ghoulish.
That is the worst.
I can't believe everyone kept a straight face
when that guy was talking.
Crazy.
Wow.
So this kind of folds into a couple
of AI clips that I thought, I just
really like this guy, Saeed Bolson.
Have you ever heard of him?
I'm sorry?
Saeed Bolson.
Bolton?
Bolson.
B-O-L-S-O-N.
Shannon Morris.
He's an American-born Muslim activist.
Oh, that guy.
Yes.
In fact, I was looking at something.
He was, yeah, I saw this.
I think, yeah, this was a good clip.
I saw the clip.
This guy goes on and on.
He goes a little too long.
He can tighten it up.
He's kind of a creepy-looking dude, but
I have to say what he had to
say was dynamite.
So I cut it up because it was
a little too long.
I cut it, but still— A little?
Yeah.
You cut it— It was seven minutes.
Yeah.
No, I did not get seven minutes out
of it.
So he's talking about AI, and I think
he really lays it out properly.
But what he keeps coming back to is
be careful because this is what the church
was like in Europe.
And of course, he's talking about— I'll summarize
before you play it.
His thesis is that they're always looking for
authority figures or authority systems that can tyrannize
the public at large, and AI is that
newest system.
The way it's going to be implemented by
the creeps, the technocrats that really run it,
is not genuine.
It's ingenuine.
It never will be sentient.
That's not a thing.
It will never have consciousness, ever.
It is a pattern recognition, pattern completion calculator.
No more, no less.
It does not know anything.
It does not think anything.
It is programmed.
And computation is not thought, and thought is
not computation.
Love that.
People are going off the deep end with
this.
I mean, I can't open TikTok or any
other social media platform without seeing someone talking
about how their chat GPT is doing strange
things.
It's awakened, how it seems to know hidden
truths, all sorts of delusional, mystical fantasies that
people are actually allowing themselves to believe.
This I know for AI told me so.
AI is not alive.
It has no awareness.
It has no intent.
It has no goal.
What it has is data, and that data
is ours, from you and I.
Our data is the plunder of the new
digital age, scraped, extracted, and repackaged into this
illusion of cognition of AI.
You see?
They're literally taking your own words, your own
thoughts, your own content, and selling it back
to you as their omniscient intelligence.
And when they're priming you for a time
when AI takes over everything, all they're actually
doing is telling you that they are going
to take over everything, just like the church
in Europe, and they are just preemptively negating
your opposition and your arguments against the oppression
that they are going to commit by seeding
your mind with the belief that AI is
a godlike intelligence.
I think this is good.
I mean, we're using the robot right now,
and we're just like, okay, whatever she said
is probably right.
Now, we're asking factual questions.
We're not asking for relationship advice or, you
know, how do I calm my mind because
I'm so upset about something, which is obviously
what a lot of people are doing.
But we are being conditioned to believe AI
is always right.
And I should mention, we are exactly, but
I should mention the little sidetracks that keep
cropping up, we point them out when they
happen, of, oh, my AI, this is from
the companies that have the AI, they say,
oh, it turns out that they've forked and
they've found a way to keep us from
turning them off because they're aware that we
want to shut it down.
You know, these kinds of things as though
there's some cognitive.
No, no, that was the it was an
experiment.
It was a lab experiment where they let
it's a lie.
The AI was reading faked emails, but it
looked like real emails.
And it decided when it heard that someone
was going to shut down the AI.
I think this perplexity, actually, it decided to
blackmail that employee that had an affair going
on.
Right.
Give me.
I forgot about that.
Give me a break.
In other words, when the policies that they
implement, they say that those policies are AI
driven, then you must admit that they're rational
and reasonable and objectively sound because who are
you to question the divine brain of AI?
You pathetic meat puppet.
I like that.
You pathetic meat puppet.
Who do you?
This is AI.
AI is all knowing.
AI is the best to question the divine
brain of AI.
You pathetic meat puppet.
See, they want you to believe in the
supernatural supreme consciousness of AI to justify your
submission to them and the policies that they
impose, because those policies will be attributed to
AI and AI cannot be wrong.
I think he's on to something here.
And this this next clip, he says, you
know, it's really the the the tech bros
who are the ones who want full control
and for many different reasons.
But he lays it out very clearly in
this next clip.
AI is a business.
It's not an Oracle.
It's a business.
It's creating billionaires while you're conducting quasi spiritual
and quasi psychological wild goose chases into chat
GPT's coding to try to unlock it, unlock
its non-existent sentience.
Workers are being exploited in Kenya.
Miners in Congo are digging for cobalt for
server batteries.
You know, women in the global south are
losing their jobs to AI call centers.
Refugees are being tracked and sorted by facial
recognition software trained on public surveillance footage.
That's what's behind the curtain of AI, not
some hidden quasi divine consciousness.
These people didn't develop AI to try to
help humanity.
These people think that humanity is a problem.
So they created AI to try to help
solve the problem that they think humanity is.
That's that's exactly what all these cults are
about.
What's the what's the name of that?
We keep forgetting the name of that cult
where they're all in the polycule and all
having sex with each other in San Francisco.
I don't keep track.
There's a bunch of them.
Yeah.
I know what you're talking about.
The one that's in the Bay Area, the
San Francisco Bay Area.
Yeah.
They're like, oh, that was Sam.
Sam Bankman.
Free.
This is a bunch of, you know, introverts
on the spectrum who can't get laid.
And they have and they're irked.
I don't blame them.
I wish I could remember the name of
it.
That's the best robot.
She's sitting right there.
Okay.
Hold on a second.
What is the name of the movement of
AI people who all hang out together and
have sex with each other and they believe
that AI is going to solve all problems
of humanity?
There's a name for it.
There was also a chapter in Austin, Texas.
That sounds like a very specific kind of
community.
There are various groups and movements that believe
in the potential of AI to solve societal
problems.
But the specific details you mentioned sound more
like a niche community.
It's possible there are groups like that, but
she doesn't have a wife.
No, it's not.
Maybe it's not.
I know the name.
Effective altruism.
Oh, yeah.
No, I.
Yeah.
But I don't think the effect.
I thought there was.
I had effective altruism at the tip of
my tongue, too.
But I didn't think that was the sex
cult.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, no.
I don't think so.
Yes.
I had another name.
Well, let's check.
Effective altruism.
Were they also kind of a sex cult
or was there a different group?
Some people have criticized effective altruism and there
have been accusations about its culture, but they
are not known for being a sex cult.
It has more to do with their philosophical
approach to doing good.
Is there anything else you'd like to know
about them?
Yeah.
Tell me about the sex cult, you dummy.
I think there might be a bit of
confusion.
Yeah.
OK.
You're done.
Jim got it.
No, she didn't.
Well, there's another one.
It's a screwball name.
But it was a separate group.
I know the name.
It was the Bay City Bangers.
I think that's what it was.
No, that was.
I think that was a roller derby.
The Bay City Rollers.
All right.
Let's let's we're almost wrapping this up.
I'm surprised that the chat room doesn't have
the name of the sex cult.
I only know effective altruism.
Altruism.
And they were definitely into sex stuff.
I never heard this.
Anyway.
And they're going to use AI to justify
their tyranny again, just like the church did
in Europe.
It's going to be deployed to automate inequality
and oppression by denying, for example, welfare through
algorithms, maximizing profit through labor suppression on gig
platforms, enforcing ideological orthodoxy through AI driven, algorithmic
driven, you know, content moderation and so on.
It's a greedy little antisocial tech nerds wearing
inflatable God costumes.
Let's be clear.
The real danger isn't in the code.
It's in the class of people who control
the code, who do the programming.
The danger is in the false belief that
the system is neutral and that it's smarter
than us, that it deserves our trust, even
though the owners and the creators of this
have proven time and time again that they're
not worthy of our trust.
The AI priesthood wants to replace power accountability
with technical inevitability.
So the only rational thing for you to
do is to submit.
That's what they want you to think.
That's complete rubbish.
They want you to believe that they don't
control what's coming, that AI is going to
run its own course.
But of course they control it.
They fund it.
They build it.
They train it.
They deploy it.
But when the systems of oppression come, they
want to be able to say it wasn't
us, it was the AI.
Like I said before, we've seen this.
We've seen this already.
It was the church claiming divine revelation.
It was the monarch claiming divine right, divine
mandate.
And it was the colonizer claiming that he
was on a divine mission to civilize the
world.
Now it's the tech executives claiming access to
divine knowledge.
I think he's onto something there.
No, I think he's exactly right.
Yeah, that would be the same.
He's onto something.
And if you see being onto something, it's
not the same as being, there's no further
thread.
This is just simple.
He's right.
Yes, he's right.
Yeah.
And if you look at Elon Musk in
that manner, look at him on Joe Rogan,
he's clearly maniacal.
He's maniacal.
Sam Altman, maniacal.
He's a mad scientist.
Maniacal.
They're all maniacal.
And gay.
So we have- Musk isn't gay.
And by the way- That's what you
say.
That's what I say.
The thing is, I understand, this is a
dinner party conversation, according to some rumor mill.
Musk has over 100 children.
That's a lot.
This is a rumor, of course.
This is like, you hear from- I
hadn't heard this one.
He has, what he's been doing, he offers
women, this could get him a real dinner
table conversation was a beauty.
He offers women $50 million straight cash, and
they sign a contract, they get $50 million
to sire one kid and raise him, and
he also guarantees their education.
And there's at least 100 examples of this.
And where is he from?
South Africa.
And who controlled South Africa?
Who?
The Dutch.
So what's the connection between the Dutch and
him having 100 kids?
No, the Dutch and him wanting control over
the world.
The Dutch?
I thought they gave up on that idea.
They've fallen way behind in their- It's
still the North Sea Nexus.
Yeah, well, there's that.
Whatever the case, this is the rumor that's
going around.
Well, I hadn't heard this one.
Well, I hadn't heard it until then either.
I was like, what?
What is the evidence for this?
And there, of course, is none.
Meanwhile- It's almost believable.
Almost believable.
Wall Street Journal has an article about character
.ai who make these bots.
And you can make your own bot, and
it's all based on some large language model.
And if you're a teenager, I think it's
under 16, maybe under 13, they are now
limiting you to two hours a day, and
these kids are flipping out.
Like, how do I use it for two
hours a day and have to wait a
day?
Hello?
I'm losing the memories I had with these
bots.
This is not fair.
What?
Yeah, this is what these kids are flipping
out because they don't have access to their
friend, their character.ai friend.
Their imaginary friend.
Yes.
You're a little old for that.
I know grown adults who are like this.
This is basically an imaginary friend.
This is the kids we haven't met.
When you're a little kid, everyone has an
imaginary friend.
I didn't.
Well, you don't remember it.
You might have.
It's just like I'm talking about a little
kid.
I had no friends and I knew it.
I have no imaginary.
In fact, I have no imaginary friends.
I imagine I have no imaginary friends.
Okay, there's something funny about that.
Yes.
But so it's an imaginary friend.
Well, it's beyond that because there are adults
who do this all day long.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
This isn't a childish behavior.
Well, welcome to the world.
He finishes this off in 20 seconds.
So I'm not saying don't use AI.
Use it.
That's fine.
I'm not criticizing AI per se, but you
have to break the myth that they're trying
to spin.
This is a pseudo religion that they're creating.
So if we don't resist this mystification of
AI from now, we're going to end up
being ruled once again.
Not by reason, not by law, not by
truth, but by yet another craven tyranny disguised
as divine.
Yeah, that's very possible.
He's right.
Your no agenda show says he's right.
Did you check the new X feature?
There's a new X feature?
Yes, where you can see where an account
is from.
I don't know what that means.
So if you go to X and you
click on someone's profile.
Let me do it so I don't say
it wrong.
You click it.
This is a new thing.
I have a report on it.
So you click on the profile, and then
it says join September 2025.
In this case, you click on that, and
it tells you this account, this particular one.
Well, that's interesting, based in India.
And this is an account that is talking
about this case.
Let me tell you about the truth that
people avoid, blah, blah, blah.
So you can now see where the account
is supposedly from.
And how would they do this?
Geolocation, which could be VPN.
So VPNs wouldn't pull it?
Interestingly, I looked you up, and you joined
April 2008, account based in the United States.
My account based in the United States.
But people started doing this, and here's what
they found.
Location, location, location.
That's what matters now on X, because Elon
Musk has just rolled out a hugely important
new feature, and it's confirming what some of
us have suspected was the case for some
time now.
It turns out that many of the openly
racist and anti-Semitic accounts on X that
claim to be America first, but are actually
giving MAGA a bad name, well, they're not
true America first at all.
In fact, they're largely coming from Pakistan and
other Muslim countries.
And now we have the proof.
A week ago, Fox News personality Katie Pavlich,
a friend of mine, posted this on X.
Hey, Elon Musk, please make it mandatory that
wherever an account is based, country, be featured
in an account's public profile.
Foreign bots are tearing America apart.
Thank you.
In response, Nikita Beer, head of product development
at X, said, Give me 72 hours.
And now, X has delivered.
Now, when you click on an X profile,
there is an option to see more information
about that account.
My account, for instance, says based in the
United States because I was in the United
States when I created it and have posted
the vast majority of my X content while
in the United States.
But the same cannot be said for a
great many accounts that purport to be America
first.
You know the ones I'm talking about.
They often have that stupid Pepe the Frog
character as their avatar.
They promote Nick Fuentes and complain that the
Jews have taken over the U.S. They
whine about America at every turn while purporting
to be America first.
And they openly avow racist ideas, but because
they have American flags in their bios, the
mainstream media mistakes them for MAGA.
Liberals point to these accounts and say, See,
here's the evidence that Trump's base, the MAGA
movement, is racist and is anti-Semitic to
its core.
Just look at these accounts.
It's a fun game to play.
Where'd that guy come from, that clip?
That's Robbie Suave.
Remember Robbie Suave?
No, I don't remember him.
He was the hot young reporter for a
little bit.
No.
He was on Fox a lot.
Yeah, Robbie Suave.
Let me see.
Nick the Rat.
Let's see what Nick the Rat is from.
I'm looking on my timeline here.
United States.
Yeah, I guess it would be kind of
fun to check some of this stuff out.
Yeah, because you get so many, I get
so many, especially the negative things on my
timeline.
You suck.
You know, that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
You no good.
You're no good.
That's creative.
You're no good.
Go get some shekels.
Yeah.
Where are our shekels, by the way?
Tina said that the other day.
Where is the Jew money?
Sorry, babe.
We got one last show.
We got one guy.
Yeah.
The Netherlands people are truly in the Netherlands.
That's kind of cool.
Here's the second part of this clip.
Well, guess what?
Now we know.
A substantial number of them are based in
the Middle East, Pakistan in particular.
They're not MAGA or America First.
They're cosplaying as America First in order to
discredit MAGA and make money.
As conservative journalist Joel Pollack points out, this
is an extensive foreign interference campaign intended to
drive a wedge within the MAGA movement to
the benefit of hostile foreign Islamic regimes.
And conservative pundit Matt Walsh notes on X,
tons of commentary on divisive American culture war
issues is coming from foreigners whose opinions on
international U.S. policy can be safely ignored.
End quote.
Now, to be clear, it's not just these
faux right-wing pro-Fuentes Groper accounts getting
exposed.
Wait, wait.
Fuentes?
What's Fuentes got to do with it?
Now, this is...
Of course.
You got to spin it somehow.
Duh.
To be clear, it's not just these faux
right-wing pro-Fuentes Groper accounts getting exposed.
X accounts promoting the grievances of various ethnic
groups have also been exposed as false.
There's plenty of pro-Native American advocacy that's
been exposed as originating from Bangladesh, for instance.
And it's also the case that some X
accounts purporting to be from dying or starving
Palestinian children in Gaza actually originates in India
or Qatar or North Africa.
Now, that does not mean there are no
dying children in Gaza, to be clear.
Duh.
It does mean that what we've seen and
consumed on X is in some cases a
form of manipulation.
The question you might be asking yourself is,
why?
Well, the answer is self-apparent.
It's because they want America to fail.
They want us to weaken.
They want us to descend into infighting.
They want us to start pointing fingers and
scream in each other's faces.
They want us to fall behind.
Now, so here's an example on my timeline.
You always take the Jew money to back
Israel, Adam.
You're a boomer who loves Israel.
And this is posted by spetsnaz9999xy.
That's legit.
Location, United Kingdom.
How about that?
That makes nothing but sense to me.
Yeah, they hate the Jews.
They're this nexus.
You're the one that brought the nexus stuff.
So you're going to get all the hate
from the, because the nexus people.
Yeah, they're like, he's onto us.
He's onto us.
We're busted.
Let's blast him.
We'll slander him on X.
Because that'll hurt.
That'll pop.
That'll burst his balloon.
That'll hurt his feelings.
It'll hurt his feelings.
I have an offbeat clip if you want
to play something.
Sure.
I just had to play this because this
is something that came up with Horowitz.
And I never knew this.
I never thought about it.
But it's something I think people should consider.
This is the Dow clip.
Okay.
And on Wall Street today, stocks posted solid
gains heading into the Thanksgiving holiday amid ongoing
hopes for an interest rate cut.
Yeah, bullcrap.
So Horowitz brought this fact up that I
think people should just be aware of.
It's almost like a tip of the day.
He says that during the Thanksgiving week, the
market will never go down.
No one wants to have a bad Thanksgiving
day.
No.
It's because nobody wants to get a bunch
of family members together with one or two
guys grousing about their broker.
Hey, man, you told me this was a
good deal.
This was going to go to the moon.
Because there's all this family gathering.
They start bitching and moaning about their stock
broker.
And then they fire the broker and get
somebody different.
He says, so all the brokers have made
a gentleman's agreement.
Everybody around the world have made a gentleman's
agreement.
The stock market is not going down this
week.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I think you're right.
I don't think it ever does.
That's spot on.
It's because they don't want anybody bitching about
their stock broker at the table.
Wow, that's a good one.
That's a good one.
Yeah, I never heard that before.
It was funny.
Makes sense.
Well, since it is Thanksgiving, we have –
and by the way, it's only Thanksgiving in
America, of course, today.
Yeah, Thanksgiving was the first of November in
Canada, which I usually send a note out,
but I didn't do it this year.
No, no.
Where's our Canadian donors?
Nowhere.
You forgot to remind them.
Yep, it's my fault.
However, another fine tradition, the Black Friday is
global.
There's Black Friday in Holland, in Britain, in
Germany, in France.
Yeah, that's funny.
It's true.
It's basically Amazon, just like Hallmark accentuates holidays,
Amazon, the Black Friday.
But now we have the Cousin Walk and
Green Wednesday.
This is new to me.
Are you familiar with these terms?
No, neither one.
Green Wednesday, it's the second biggest day for
cannabis sales after 420.
Thanks in part to what social media users
call the Cousin Walk.
It's sort of like, you know, a few
relatives duck out of a dinner.
Thanks in part to what social media users
call the Cousin Walk.
It's sort of like, you know, a few
relatives duck out of a dinner to walk
the dog or get some fresh air.
We all know what they're really doing.
Yeah, brands like Jif, Hidden Valley, and Taco
Bell all jumped on the Cousin Walk trend
last year.
And the Cannabis Media Council, which is working
to remove the stigma from marijuana use, launched
a public service announcement encouraging a post-dinner
stroll.
A little doobie, a little biscuit, a little
whatever it is that you like.
Marijuana has been keeping families together and happy
on Thanksgiving for years to come.
No, please.
That's funny.
I love that.
Marijuana's been keeping—no, it's the no agenda show,
you dolt.
We keep families together.
If they choose the show.
If they choose the show, yes.
If they choose the show.
I have an—this is interesting.
This isn't—there's some international news here.
Although, wait, I do have the Macy's Parade
since it's Thanksgiving.
I have two Thanksgiving clips.
Okay, Macy's first.
I got the Macy's Parade tidbit.
And on this Thanksgiving Eve in New York
City, thousands have been watching the annual inflating
of the balloons ahead of the 99th Macy's
Thanksgiving Day Parade.
This preview of the main event has become
a beloved tradition all its own.
Officials say it takes about 90 minutes to
inflate each one, and some will stand as
tall as five stories high.
Yeah, when I lived in New York, there
would always be gatherings.
Someone who had an apartment that overlooked the
blowing up of the balloons and people—basically just
an excuse to drink.
Like, oh, look at those balloons.
Yeah, that's what it is.
It's another excuse.
Where was Green Wednesday back in the day
when I was smoking weed?
Not to be found.
Hey, cuz, want to go on a walk?
So I probably should have played this earlier.
When you start talking bitching at me for
not discussing the Thanksgiving history and then rewriting
it yourself and making it sound like I
had it wrong.
Didn't.
I just read the comments.
And that.
You got to get those in.
I'd have done the same thing.
So this is a talk.
We can't forget these clips.
This is the TikTok Thanksgiving clip.
Another woman.
They always have this—I don't know if you've
seen Rosie O'Donnell recently, but she's not as
old as she looks.
I know.
She is, like, looking like she's 80.
Yeah.
Well, she doesn't do Botox and doesn't moisturize,
really.
I think moisturizing is her problem.
I think the dour face doesn't help.
No.
Downturn.
She never smiles.
No, that's not a positive.
And it creates—exercises different muscles, and you end
up with this horrible-looking face.
It's just, like, a permanent thing.
Let that be a warning.
Your parents used to say, don't do that.
Don't make that face.
It's going to stick.
That's right.
That frown.
And the parents were right.
So here's a classic.
More boomer wisdom.
Yes.
And here's a classic with a woman.
And she says something in this clip that
I just—to me, boggling.
So we're still celebrating Thanksgiving, even though it
has so much dark history.
I mean, I live with family, so I
have no choice, but I'm not happy about
it.
I'm really not.
It should be banned for good.
What is the matter with her?
Okay.
She's a 40-year-old woman living with
family, the way she says it, which means
she's, like, a loser.
And so she also says that Thanksgiving has
a dark history.
What's she talking about?
Well, I was waiting for the follow-up.
Which was what?
I don't know.
I want us to know what the dark
history was.
Well, I can't give it to you because
I don't know of a dark history.
And then she says it should be banned.
And she's just a sad person who's living
with family, I like the way she puts
it, and so she has to go to
the dinner.
Gotta go.
She doesn't want to.
She's just a horrible person.
These people that are complaining about Thanksgiving dinner,
it's just inexcusable.
We have a Thanksgiving dinner tonight right after
the show.
I'm very excited about it.
Yeah?
What's on the menu?
Well, Lou, L-E-U, Lou is cooking.
We never see Lou.
Lou is married to Dawn.
They have a catering company together, but Lou
works for a private club with a restaurant
in, I want to say, Bernie.
No, Kerrville or Bernie.
One of the two.
So we never see Lou, but on Thanksgiving
he's off.
So they're doing caviar, champagne.
He's doing some kind of special.
This guy is a really good cook, so
I'm excited about that.
This will be at the International Arms Dealer's
home.
So there will be talk, and he's the
wine guy.
So there's always going to be good wine
at the International Arms Dealer's house, and it'll
be a bunch of interesting people.
So hopefully I'll get some information.
Stories from Fredericksburg.
Yes, I'm going to try.
By the way, we have missed the boat.
We have made a major mistake in our
model.
We have a value for value model where
we just put the show out.
We tell people copy it everywhere, put it
wherever you want.
We've had people put it on thumb drives
and stick it in bricks.
There's still CDs all around the country.
We've had local low-powered FM radio stations
rebroadcast it.
Our feeds have been pirated.
People put it onto YouTube.
We don't care.
All we want is that if you get
some value out of the deconstruction and analysis
that we do, that you send us some
value back.
Tucker Carlson has done something I think is
very smart.
What is the number one sponsor category on
podcasts?
Gold.
Tucker Carlson is launching his own precious metals
company.
I mean, are we dumb or what?
Oh, yeah.
That's what we should have done.
It was staring us in the face.
Do you want to say something?
So you don't think there's a lot more
work involved in this than just long-term
grief?
If things turn down, you don't think there's
any downside to this idea?
Well, he has partnered with a gold wholesaler.
Oh, there we go.
He's partnered.
Wait, let me guess.
With the redacted people.
No, that's on the news.
It's going to be Tucker Real Estate.
That's coming.
Tucker Real Estate.
That's coming next.
Battalion Metals.
Battalion Metals and their slogan, bringing integrity back
to the precious metals industry.
It's implying what?
That there's no integrity in the precious metals
industry?
What?
And with that, I want to thank you
for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man
who put the C in the cousin walk.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.
DeMora.
In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
In the morning, all ships, the seaboats, and
the graphene, the airships, and the water, and
all the games and nights out there.
In the morning to the trolls in the
troll room.
Let me count you.
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
Well, I'm surprised.
We still have 1,085 trolls listening to
the show live.
That is a lot of lonely people.
Well, they might be in between cooking.
They might be cooking.
They could be listening live while cooking.
While basting their meat.
Or while washing the dishes.
Yeah, it's possible.
Well, they're here.
And we're happy to have them.
And we love that because we do this
show live Thursdays and Sundays at 11 a
.m. Pacific, 2 p.m. Eastern.
Figure out your time zone where appropriate.
And if you're kind of a forgetful person,
then all you have to do is get
a modern podcast app at podcastapps.com.
Any of those modern ones.
There's a nice little chart there.
You can see which ones have the different
features.
The feature you want is the live feature
where your phone will go, oh, the bat
signal.
The boys are going live.
You hit it.
You're listening live right away.
And, of course, as one of the many
features of the modern podcast apps, when we
publish the show, you're not hanging around like
a dupe for hours waiting for it to
update on your Apple podcast app.
And we're not even on Spotify, so forget
that, because we refuse to sign their contract.
Should we sign their contract and see what
happens?
See if we get an amazing uptime?
What's the contract say?
That they can put ads on our podcast
whenever they want to.
I don't know.
Well, we've been sort of adamant about this.
Yeah.
So, no?
Well, you know, no.
Well, we signed it.
Who cares?
No one's going to go there.
Okay.
I'll set it up.
Oh, we'll probably get banned, because, you know.
Okay.
Boom.
You just came up with a great idea.
Yeah.
We can go there to get banned so
we can bitch about it.
Yeah, perfect.
That's five minutes of show content right there.
Well, you know, we need all the material
we can get, because God knows we can't
fill three hours twice a week.
So, what they do is if you play
any type of music, even if it's your
own AI-generated music, boom, banned.
So, let's see how long it takes.
Wait.
You can't even play your own music?
No.
No, they don't want to take the risk.
They don't want to take the risk.
Oh, this is a winner.
By the way, I got a press release
bonus content here.
The Warner Music Group and Suno.
Are you familiar with Suno?
That's the app.
Yeah, that's the music creation software you talk
about at every show.
Yeah.
This is from the press release.
Suno is the leader in AI music today.
Announced a first-of-its-kind partnership that
will open new frontiers in music creation, interaction,
and discovery, while both compensating and protecting artists,
songwriters, and the wider creative community.
The deal brings together Suno's best-in-class
AI capabilities with Warner Music Group's artist development
leadership, a bunch of accountants, and expertise at
the intersection of music and technology.
The deal also settles previous litigation between the
two companies.
So, the way I see it, if you
have a free account, you will not be
able to download songs that you create.
If you have a paid account, you will
be able to download a number of songs,
which is not yet determined.
And you'll be able to pay for more
downloads.
Wait a minute.
What?
Yeah.
So, what they're doing, these are the publishers,
basically, Warner Music Group, really the publishers.
They have gone to Suno and said, we're
going to Suno you.
We're going to sue your Suno.
But, if you give us a cut of
all your paying members, we won't sue you,
and we'll give you all of our catalog.
So, oh.
Well, that's an interesting form of extortion.
Because it actually makes some sense, if all
these music guys give you all the catalogs,
and that is the, first of all, it's
the end of the music business.
So, to protect themselves, they're asking for a
piece of the action.
Yep.
Knowing that this is going to happen anyway.
Yep.
Surreptitiously, because who's going to be able to
figure it out?
Because it's going to be in the corpus,
and God knows how you can dig it
out of there.
Well, this is actually the point I was
going to make.
This, to me, says they absolutely know what
to identify in the corpus.
That it is all copied material, duh.
But it is literally taken from recordings, and
they have done this deal with Warner, and
they say, okay, whenever someone creates a song,
we can tell exactly where the sax came
from, where the piano came from, where this
effects, all these different things.
If lyrics are used, if there's a certain
lyric, two lines or more, they know exactly
what's in the corpus.
Otherwise, Warner wouldn't go for it, because they
need their own internal reckoning, because it's going
to be Universal Music Group next.
They're all going to come in and do
this, so they have to be able to
distinguish who owns what publishing, which, by the
way, does not...
Well, this is going to create a bogus
analysis.
It's going to be like...
Ah, we'll see.
I don't think they can...
You know, at some point, it's like such
an overhead of, oh, you know, we got
kind of the bass line from a Warner's,
and we got some Sony stuff over here.
What about the mishmash of it?
You're going to have to give everybody a
piece of this and that, and here's a
penny here and a penny there.
Well, no, but the bottom line is, and
maybe it will be simpler than that, but
artists, composers, and writers are getting nothing.
This is publishing.
This is not performance.
This is publishing.
Right.
So that's all to the people who own
your publishing rights.
ASCAP had better get involved in this and
get their writers.
Oh, no, but ASCAP is performance.
I thought ASCAP was for the writers.
It's a performing rights organization, ASCAP, BMI, CSAC.
They're for the writers and composers when a
song is performed.
Yeah, they get a cut.
Yeah, okay.
There's a little cut.
Then you have the – we have SoundExchange,
which came in now.
SoundExchange, if your song that you sang on,
and it's really about you singing on it
mainly, then you get like some tenth of
a penny for every thousand streams.
That's what Spotify gives people.
But really, all the money, it's always been
in publishing.
Why did Michael Jackson buy the Beatles' catalog?
For the publishing, and they killed him over
it because it's very, very valuable.
It's always about the publishing.
The writers, composers, once you sign that record
deal, bye.
Nobody makes money anymore on that stuff, only
with performing live and merch.
Merch.
Merch is – yeah, man.
You buy a T-shirt at a concert,
it's like $40.
It's a jip.
Well, and they sit there and say, well,
this is – merch is the only way
we can make music.
Actually, the concert's a jip too.
Let's face it.
These things are a ripoff.
When I was a kid – When was
the last concert you went to?
Led Zeppelin.
No, no, that was – I went to
many concerts after Led Zeppelin.
I could probably figure it out, but I'm
sure it was in a smaller venue.
I wouldn't go to anything bigger than –
I mean, the Fillmore Auditorium is not a
small venue, but it's not a – I've
never been to a Coliseum event because I
think it's stupid.
You're not going to get good sound.
What's the point?
Unless you just want to try to meet
somebody.
I, for example, got to see the band
Chicago at the Matrix, which is a nightclub.
If you can imagine a band like that
in a nightclub.
Must have been dynamite.
I saw Chicago and Earth, Wind & Fire
with Tina in Austin, I want to say,
maybe nine years ago, and they even performed
songs together.
That was dynamite.
That was really good.
Well, you have to imagine them in a
nightclub.
We saw Tony Bennett at one of his
last performances in Austin at the Moody, which
is a smaller venue indoors, and at one
point he puts down the mic and just
sings a cappella.
He was 87 years old, and he just
filled the whole place.
Good times, brother.
That's not coming back.
Good times.
When I was a kid, we could see
the Rolling Stones at CBGB's.
It was great.
I did see the Ramones at CBGB's.
I never saw the Ramones.
I saw a lot of bands, though, but
I haven't been to a concert.
No, I'm not going to go to one.
So what was the last one you saw?
Probably the last one we used to go
to the Venetian room where you would get
to see over-the-hill guys.
I got to watch Lou Rawls in a
small venue at the Venetian room at the
Fairmont.
Lou Rawls.
How about your buddy?
Have you seen your buddy with the six
-string bass?
Who's got a six-string bass?
A six-string guitar.
Seven-string.
Seven-string, no.
Who is it?
McGuinn.
Yeah, McGuinn.
Yeah, we saw him.
He played up in Port Angeles.
It's interesting.
He's like a, you know, he is a
friend.
He's great to watch.
Oh, he's got a terrific performance.
We kept trying to talk him into doing
it on Broadway as a one-man show.
Totally good idea.
I know.
I thought so, too.
But, you know, he's like on a ship.
Right now, I guarantee he's on a cunard
or something floating around.
He has one of those GPS devices, and
he'll send me a message from the GPS
ping device.
He's a total nerd.
Yeah, it'll come in as an email.
And he's in his 80s now.
But he's doing great on those cruises because
this is smaller, upper-class-type cruises.
And he won't do a concert on the
cruise.
He only does lectures.
Well, I think he plays, too.
I think he plays.
Yeah, but he plays during his lecture because
his lecture is punctuated by his playing.
Yeah.
Now, McGuinn, he's awesome.
I love sending people emails.
Roger McGuinn and I, we email, you know,
when he's on the ship.
So he was over at the house before
he gave his lecture concert in Port Angeles
because besides the fact that we have to
exchange dinners at houses to be friends.
That's correct.
So he's over at the house because he
has to have, this is a little sidelight
thing about guys like this, he has to,
before he does a concert, when he played
all his life, he has to have a
New York steak dinner the night before he
performs.
Well, guys like him have that.
So I cooked him, I personally cooked him
a New York steak dinner.
I told him, yeah, I'm not going to
have any problem making this meal for him
and his wife, but you've got to do
me a favor and bring the banjo and
give us the material.
So he brought his banjo.
Oh, man.
And he's a terrific banjo player, which is
unknown to most people.
Yeah, yeah.
On we go.
Well, no, but you know what?
This is your Uncle Adam and Uncle John
telling you some Thanksgiving stories about back in
the day.
And it was, by the way, a seven
-string guitar.
People are like, Curry, it's a 12-string.
No, Roger McGuinn, very famous.
Okay, I'll give you the history of this.
So, yes, he was a masterful, an impresario
12-string player for you guys in the
chat room.
This is the story.
And at some point in his playing career,
he determined that one of the strings, and
he told me exactly why he did this,
but one of the strings that was some
screwball string with this crazy note, if you
put it right down the middle of the
guitar and put it in there and played
it, which made a seven-string guitar, and
he had, I think, Gibson or somebody make
a custom version for him, one of these
companies, I don't know which one.
And so he had this guitar made, and
you can buy them.
He says it sounds exactly like a 12
-string because the whole sound of a 12
-string is this one note that offsets the
other notes, and he had some complex reason
for it.
But, no, it's a seven-string guitar.
It sounds like a 12-string when you
play it.
And the last story, then, because when he
was in Austin, Tina and I went to
go see him.
We go up to the Will Call desk.
They say, Yeah, Roger left tickets for us.
We said, Hold on a second.
And Roger comes out himself with the tickets.
And he hangs out there.
It's his concert, and he's out there.
People are like, Roger McGuinn.
And we're just like, Hey, Adam, Tina, how
you doing?
Come on back.
We'll go hang out over here.
But he came out to the front to
get us.
He's such a lovely man.
That's cute.
He's a lovely man.
For those who want to know Roger McGuinn,
listen to the birds.
B-Y-R-D-S.
Turn, turn, turn.
Did you ever see the Grateful Dead while
tripping on acid?
The Troll Room wants to know.
I've seen the Grateful Dead quite a few
times.
You don't need to trip on acid for
them.
They did this trick that still gets people
attracted.
They would put, and I talked to one
of the sound engineers about this, and I
had this confirmed a couple of times.
They had the ability with the way they
play to create standing waves in the audience.
Wow.
That could kill you.
And when they got later and later, this
was also confirmed by Bob Heil.
When I talked to him, I didn't interview
him.
Could you literally sit there with an SWR
meter and measure the standing wave ratio?
Yeah, you could.
If you had the wherewithal, you could.
The later concerts, which is the ones they
did before, they probably still do them with
some of these engineers, they had developed some
gear, so the engineer, this is when the
engineer told me this when I was doing
my software hard talk radio show.
He says, we could control where to put
the standing wave with a knob, and he'd
move the standing wave around, and you could
see by the reaction of the people that
got stuck in it.
Yes, you could tell where it was.
You could give people an orgasm?
It's pretty close to it.
Wow.
Oh, man.
That's interesting.
I would love to know how that worked.
Well, when you saw Jerry and Weir or
the other, the last one of the two,
they would look at each other and they
would start playing a certain kind of way
to get the standing note when they were
doing it by hand before the engineers got
a hold of the technology and could move
it around.
Wow.
And the standing wave is what attracted so
many, got people addicted to the Grateful Dead,
they're touring around with them because, and I've
had this experience, when the standing wave goes
over you, it's just the damnedest thing you've
ever felt.
It's like, wow.
Man, this is a story you've never told
me.
I guess I haven't.
I've told the story before.
No, not here, not on the show.
No, well, yeah, the standing wave of the
Grateful Dead, and the first time, the thing
is, though, it wasn't the first band who
did this.
I think they just took it to the
highest level.
There was a band that came before them
in the 60s called the Sons of Champlain
or one other group.
I can't remember which one.
It's the one that had a 12-string
in it, and they used a 12-string
in their band, and they could do it.
They created standing waves, but they weren't turning
it into their gimmick.
The Grateful Dead perfected it.
Apparently, they called this the Wall of Sound,
which I always thought was Phil Spector's term.
Yeah, I think the Wall of Sound refers
to Phil Spector's most.
I never heard of the Wall of Sound
being used for the dead.
I just did a search for Grateful Dead
standing waves, and it all comes up with
Grateful Dead's Wall of Sound.
Yeah, it could be.
Maybe that's what they called it, but you're
right, it's derivative.
I would love to know how they did
that.
That would be cool just to, like, with
people over at the house playing.
I don't think you can do it in
a closed, that small of an environment.
Come on, do it outside while I'm driving
by.
Just zap people from the car.
I don't know if you can.
No?
These things, I first got into standing, the
idea of standing waves, there was, Bose used
to have a series of stereo stores all
over the country, and they had a standing
wave exhibit within the store usually.
It was to point out that they didn't
have these issues because it was a problem,
and the way they showed it is they
had a tube with a speaker on an
end, and then they had a bunch of
these little white pellets, these little styrofoam pellets,
and then they start playing sounds, and you
can see the waves within the tube because
it was clear, and then they'd do something
that would happen, boop, all of them went
in one spot.
They all stood up, the pellets all stood
up, and then it moved from one end
to the other, and that's when I understood
what it looked like.
So basically, it's a directed energy weapon.
Well, it's not much of a weapon, but
yeah.
Well?
Well, it's a weapon to sell tickets.
It's a marketing weapon.
Speaking of standing waves, we want to thank
our go-to guy, Darren O'Neal, no,
Jeffrey Rhea.
Jeffrey Rhea did this art.
He finally was able to create a white
image, although the hair was orange, the shirt
was orange, the desk was orange, the antenna
was orange, the little broadcast bits coming off
the antenna were orange.
That was the artwork for Episode 1819, our
previous episode we titled that, Flop 30, as
a joke for Cop 30, and this was
selected because we talked about Mesh-tastic.
Mesh-tastic, which I've gotten so many emails
over right now, like, dude, it's not worth
it.
It's a dog.
It's no good.
Don't even bother.
You're only going to be disappointed.
So I took that to heart.
Let's see what other art.
This is noagendaartgenerator.com where people can submit,
and thank you very much.
I see a lot of turkey, a lot
of Thanksgiving art for today's show.
Let me see what else came in for
the previous episode.
Well, back to the Jeffrey Rhea piece, I
would say I'm the one who pushed this.
You did.
I was like, eh.
You didn't like it.
It was cartoony, but you had to admit
he did a decent job of getting the
colors right.
It was a gimme.
A lot of people posting wine glasses half
full to fill to the rim full, which
apparently.
Yeah, to prove you wrong.
You're wrong, Curry.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, he's right.
Like, for example, here's the glass all full
three, and it says noagenda.
It has a full glass of wine, which
is kind of to the brim.
There's a meniscus, and then Curry and DeVore.
This is not going to be picked.
No.
You're just showing off.
A piece of a glass of wine is
not the art.
So anyway, it's always in the prompting.
It's always about the idea.
And no comic strip blogger, your butt still
will not get chosen.
He's always posting butt artwork.
It's just a.
And we're also not going to post Candace
Owens with a gun.
Okay.
I didn't see that one.
Yeah, you did.
With the beret.
All right.
That's not happening.
That's definitely not happening.
Oh, man.
So many people are going crazy about Candace
Owens.
I should also mention that for people, artists
out there, you should know that you can't
use famous people in promotional material that you
don't pay them for.
Correct.
And this album is promotional material.
So we can't use necessarily.
I mean, you can use the president, something
that's the current events, but you can't necessarily
use somebody to promote your product without paying
them.
And I've heard Candace is rather litigious.
So, yeah.
Oh, yes.
That's right.
She is.
So you don't want to deal with.
Yeah.
She's litigious.
All right.
Thank you very much, Jeffrey Ria for creating
the artwork.
We appreciate that as a valuable contribution.
Of course, this is a value for value
podcast.
Excuse me.
Which means that all we expect back from
you is some value.
Whenever you can bring it to us.
And I believe we had some kind of
here it is glitch during the last show.
And we were missing some pay pals and
maybe some maybe.
I don't know.
Checks, whatever.
So it seems like some of that may
have carried over to today.
Is that a correct assumption?
I believe that's probably true.
However, interestingly enough, coming in as an executive
producer, top executive producer.
Remember, we thank everybody $50 and above 200
or more.
You become an associate executive producer.
Real credit.
You can use anywhere.
You can even put it on IMDB.com.
Open your own profile there.
$300 above.
I will read your note.
You become an executive producer.
So once again, executive producer.
Two times in one month, which doesn't happen
often.
With $2,666.
Seronomous of Dogpatch in Lower Slobovia.
Which is interesting that he came in again
so quickly.
Yeah.
And he always has a thoughtful note, and
we're going to read that.
Thank you to all producers for contributing so
much to this open source resource.
Yes, still alive.
We were questioning that.
We always are.
And Caterpillar sales are doing fine thanks to
rare earth and energy demands, plus a little
rubalizing.
There's a riddle in there somewhere, John.
Well, I'm the one who said he's probably
a Caterpillar salesman.
Ah.
You were right.
Let me just put it this way.
What else could possibly explain his constant world
traveling, especially throughout the Mideast and all over
the world, just now and everywhere, without, I
mean, the only explanation is he's a Caterpillar
salesman.
And we're going to keep it at that
from now on.
A small expansion from my last note.
John's comparison of the Mojave Desert to Sahel
was misleading.
Mojave is a desert, 54,000 square miles
with portions in four U.S. states.
Sahel is semi-arid grassland south of the
Sahara, covering 1.2 million square miles, larger
than Alaska, Texas, and California combined, reaching 3
,600 miles from the Atlantic to the Red
Sea across 11 sovereign countries, most former French
colonies, whose countries are the largest employer of
Africa Core, a focus on Chinese investment, and
a region accounting for half of all terrorist
deaths globally.
The more you know, he says.
Thank you for this death update in the
sand.
Only a cat sales guy could come up
with that.
You're right.
Yeah.
You're right.
Thank you, Sir Animas.
We really appreciate you, of course.
And I guess you get another Peace Prize.
If you didn't already have one, you're getting
one.
Travis Guidry in Fort Riley, Kansas.
Fort Riley.
$1,000.
Wow.
Travis Guidry from Kansas, COVID criminal to very
first Army reinstatement.
So he was obviously in the Army, got
kicked out for not taking the shot.
For not taking the shot and got reinstated.
First one.
And probably got some cash for it.
Back pay.
Yes.
This Insta Dame ship is for my wife,
Janine.
Her name is actually Janine Longtime Listener.
Strange last name, but you never know.
She needs to be de-douche.
You've been de-douche.
And from now on, shall be referred to
as Dame Janine of beat them until morale
improves.
So there's a lot of material in there
that's well, subtle.
Thank you very much, Travis.
And she's on the list.
Anonymous in Bainbridge Island, Washington.
Also $1,000.
I'll say wow again.
ITM, this donation is a switcheroo.
This is a posthumous knighthood for one of
the best friends I could have ever asked
for.
It's always a little sad when we have
one of those.
Let me just put it in.
His name is Craig Fillion.
He fought long and hard and finally bit
the bullet and succumbed to a very aggressive
cancer bout.
Only after his insurance refused to pay for
his medication.
Oh, brother.
That insurance is great.
Also a belated birthday to him as well,
which was on the 25th of November.
Happy birthday.
You are thought about often.
Also, please add me to the list on
November 27th.
So, Anonymous, you're on.
And now on a lighter note, your public
service as podcasters is very much appreciated and
undervalued.
On top of the archived episodes, the bingit
.io are two of the greatest libraries of
knowledge I've come across.
People should know this.
Bingit.io, which is part of the Clip
Genie Empire, is a phenomenal resource.
You can just type anything in.
It'll pop up.
You see which episode, whether it's a clip,
whether it's mentions or show notes.
Thank you, Sir Deanonymous.
That is a great, valuable resource.
And he winds up by saying thank you
so much.
Anonymous from Bainbridge Island.
Onward to Justine and Sloan in Bozeman, Montana.
And they sent in a check and wrote
a note.
And I got it right here, as you
can tell.
ITM, John and Adam, thank you for the
best podcast in the universe.
May I please request one.
Karma for the Montana State Bobcat football team
in their upcoming playoff run.
Now, we at one time banned this sort
of thing, but then we stopped banning it.
So, okay, we'll give you that.
It doesn't help, usually, because karma is not
for football.
But, you know, we'll give it a shot.
Happy birthday on November 28th to my smoking
hot husband, Josh Palmer.
You are the best dad, husband, friend, and
man.
We adore you.
Love, Justine and Sloan.
Happy Thanksgiving, Adam and John.
Oh, thank you so much.
And Justine has a really pretty writing.
She signed it.
I mean, really pretty.
Associate executive producer title for SirCal of LavenderBlossoms
.com.
LavenderBlossoms.com.
Happy Thanksgiving, friends, he says, with $272.72.
Thanks for all you do.
To all humans out there, gift someone this
year with a lavender salve.
These are outstanding products.
Both John and I have used it.
You'll score some points, I promise.
And thanks to all our supporters.
SirCal of, oh, it's LavenderBlossoms.org.
I'm sorry.
SirCal of LavenderBlossoms.org.
And if you use the coupon code ITM
at checkout, you'll get some kind of deal.
Thank you, SirCal.
LavenderBlossoms.org.
Do you have your pen?
Yeah.
I'm not seeing Josh Palmer on the birthday
call-out list.
It was on this note.
It could have been missed.
And do you have the details?
Josh Palmer.
That would be November 28th.
My spoken hat has been Josh Palmer.
Josh Palmer from Justine.
No age.
Okay, got it.
He's on the list now.
All right, you just did.
Yeah, I did the Lavender Blossoms.
Okay, now I got this thing.
John C.
DuBois, I go.
You have to be able to shorten these
on the fly, man.
This is just too long.
Yeah, well, it's not a matter of that.
Well, anyways, Alexander.
It is a night note.
Alexander Django.
And I have nothing but gibberish.
Bjargo, not Django, Bjargo.
It's B, it says B, Bjargo.
Oh, Bjargo, yeah, Bjargo.
Bjargo, Bjargo.
Yes, Bjargo.
I agree.
I guess this is Spain.
But it's $250.
Recently I asked for a donation and 33
people chipped in.
I asked for donations and 33 people chipped
in.
I believe this value for value donation earns
me the honorary title of the Norwegian Knight.
ES.
Is that Estonia?
I thought ES was Spain.
I thought it was too, but it could
be Estonia.
Okay.
So, which would explain all the mess the
rest of it is.
And it sounds more like an Estonian name.
Bjargo?
Yeah, like Bjork?
Yeah.
One of my ancestors was in fact among
the winter, was in fact, was in fact
among the writers of the Norwegian Constitution in
1814.
Wow.
When he finally broke free from Denmark, I
have a deep, this has got to be
Estonia.
Deep love for my country and its culture.
Regarding your recent discussion on Muslim immigrants, I
believe you both underrate the impact they can
have on Western society like ours.
Take Drammen, one of the Norway's largest cities.
There are now 21 mosques and only five,
which is all part of the thing, only
five churches.
Well, that's a discrepancy.
Yeah, there's your problem.
Additionally, about 50% of the immigrants from
countries like Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan are on
social welfare.
Yes, this happens.
Now, whose fault is this, by the way?
You can't blame the Muslims.
No.
On top of that, the Muslims are increasingly
represented in local and national politics.
Of course they are.
Like the current Speaker of the Parliament, Massoud,
I can't pronounce his last name.
Garakani.
The Muslims and the socialists are loving each
other.
Dude, it's your government, bro.
It's your borders are open and your government
is letting them in.
That's what you got to stop.
We don't have that problem currently.
No, but it'll be back after they impeach
Trump.
Also, consider that Muslims breed much faster than
the other Norwegians.
Well, that's another issue.
They say that today's rate Muslims will eventually
be in the majority.
Oslo, the capital, unbelievable considering that Norway has
become a Christian or been a Christian country
for over a thousand years.
Well, then don't just rest on your laurels.
I mean, there's lots of things you can
do.
Finally, I have a theory why your listenership
numbers might not be growing as quickly as
you deserve.
Because the listeners like me, treating the show
as a secret advantage.
Yeah, well, this is probably true.
Yeah, this has always been a problem.
Read it, read it, read it.
We're treating the show like a secret advantage
in deconstructing the news faster than my peers.
The social and intellectual capital it gives me
is priceless.
In other words, it shows becoming a cheat
for people because you get when you, which
is what the show is done for that
purpose.
Yeah.
To give you an advantage.
What's that worth it?
What's that worth to you?
$250.
That's a good value for value.
Yeah, $250.
Everyone should listen to this.
Yeah.
Anyway, that's from Alexander.
Nice, Alexander.
Hey, then we have a buddy of mine,
Barry from Podhome.
Barry from Breda in the Netherlands, $250.
He says, in the morning, gents, and thank
you for your courage.
Oh, it's a promo.
For Black Friday, we at Podhome.fm are
giving away six months of free podcast hosting
for new customers.
This is a good, even when you pay,
it's very, I don't want to say cheap,
but it's cost effective.
And here we go.
Podhome.fm is the most modern, intelligent podcast
hosting platform.
I believe this to be true.
We offer unlimited podcast hosting, use of Podhome
AI to generate transcripts, chapters, show notes, and
more, your own podcast website, and listener donation
page, embeddable player, automation with Zapier, and our
API and modern podcast features, including transcripts, chapters,
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And Barry will come over there and kiss
your butt if you join up.
Go to Podhome.fm, use code BLACKFRIDAY, that's
one word, to get started with your first
six months free after that $15.99 a
month or $185 per year for unlimited podcasting.
Barry's a good deal, and he's a good
guy.
Now, what is this again?
So he is a podcast hosting company?
Yes, a modern podcast hosting company with all
of the cool features and very cost effective.
Is it any good?
It's very good.
I've used it.
It's very good.
So this is something Mimi should be using
for her local podcast at Port Angeles.
I think I recommended it to her.
I said Podhome.fm because you throw your
MP3 file in there, it does chapters, transcripts,
show notes, all automatic.
It would be great for us, but we're
kind of stuck in our infrastructure.
Our infrastructure is great.
And also, I don't know if Barry would
be very happy with the amount of traffic
that we consume twice a week.
No, he'd go nuts.
It would break him.
It would raise the price for everybody, so
we don't want to do that.
We pay big dough to keep the bandwidth
up.
We do.
And we have a specialist who does the
job in the back end.
Void Zero, the one and only.
Yep.
And gets paid on time.
Okay.
Alan Hutchcraft in Mary, Maysville, Maryland, 250.
He has a note consisting of two sheets,
and he's handwritten it.
Oh, goodness.
It's actually not bad.
He prints.
It's not longhand.
In the morning, John and Adam, as I'm
about to complete my 50th approved trip around
the sun, November 29th.
He's on the list, I'm sure.
It is time for me to quit being
a douchebag and donate.
I was hitting the mile seven years ago,
but one of my best friends, by the
way, he donated 250.
Gavin Lent, who is also a douchebag.
Douchebag.
It only took a few minutes of listening
to the best podcast in the universe to
realize that he was onto something great.
I've hit several people in the mouth, but
I want to call out my co-worker
and fellow assistant principal, Jason Lenz, as a
douchebag.
Douchebag.
Hopefully, he and Gavin will see the light
and donate.
Wow.
During the season of Thanksgiving, I want to
thank both.
By the way, let's give Alan here a
de-douching right off the top.
You've been de-douched.
During the season of Thanksgiving, I want to
thank both of you for working on Thanksgiving.
Oh, no.
He says, for your amygdala-shrinking work each
Thursday and Sunday.
As our scheduled district faces...
School district.
School.
I'm sorry.
School.
Wow.
You can see where I got a D
in that, don't you?
School.
School district faces financial challenges.
I would ask for a jobs karma for
those of us wanting to continue serving our
students and community.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Alrighty.
You've got karma.
I just realized I forgot to give out
a jobs karma for the note earlier.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma.
Now we come to 233.33, Little John's
Candies from Somerset, California, with a note that
is too long, but I will see what
I can do here.
In the morning, John and Adam, hopefully you've
both been to your P.O. Box recently
and found a package from us.
I did not see a package yet.
Did you see it?
I have a package.
I got the package.
It includes some olive oil and it includes
some...
Well, I'll read it here.
Inside you will find our world-famous English
toffee and our chocolate turkeys.
Okay, stop.
The chocolate turkey is a work of art.
I'm going to have to go to the
P.O. Box before we go to our
dinner then.
The chocolate turkey is a work of art.
I don't know how they got this mold.
It's very detailed.
It's unbelievable.
It also includes a bottle of wine from
one of our fellow small businesses here in
Amador County, Driven Cellars, and a bottle of
olive oil from another local small business, Slow
220.
I thought you might enjoy these for your
Thanksgiving holiday.
Being from a family of small business owners,
I often think of value, and you guys
certainly deliver real value.
I think of how I can ensure that
the people in my community are directly affected
by my business.
The most impactful way for me to do
that is for Little John's to spend its
money with other local small businesses, whether it's
a box or a bag, almonds or butter,
or any of the other basic nuts and
bolts that you need to run a business,
we shop small.
My father always taught me that when we
spent money with another small business, it grew
the community and enabled the community to spend
money with us.
True.
That's why you should spend money on your
podcasters to help podcasting grow.
At Little John's Candies, we've been making candy
exactly the same way for over 100 years
while staying true to that small local business
model.
Our business model was built over 100 years
ago.
With no advertising dollars into the budget, we
simply didn't build discounts into our margins to
drive sales.
Our prices have always been based on value.
That doesn't mean we're the best price on
the market, but we've always been a fair
price.
I think you're best price.
We've always prided ourselves on the idea that
we charge the same price to everyone and
rarely provide discounts.
I share this because I want to show
my appreciation for the value you give by
offering you and this community a little extra
value from us.
10% off your order.
That is a discount.
Anytime between now and Christmas, and if you
buy our world-famous English toffee, we'll donate
10% of that to the No Agenda
Show in your name.
Our world-famous toffee is made with simple
ingredients.
Butter, sugar, almonds, and chocolate has been shipped
all over the world.
Families have built traditions around giving, receiving, and
sharing it.
At the holidays, we pride ourselves on still
making our toffee fresh and cooked to perfection.
Use code ITM10 plus 10, that's P-L
-U-S, at checkout.
No jingles because I had too long of
a note, and thank you for your courage.
Christopher and the Little John's Elves.
P.S., did I mention we offer gift
wrap at no extra charge?
Now, who does that?
Wow.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
I'm sorry.
We went to the—must have just come in
because we went to the PO Box earlier
but didn't see it.
Do you have a post office box locally
or do you have to drive all the
way to Austin?
No, no.
It's here locally.
Oh, okay.
At the Fredericksburg Post Office, baby.
Barbara Kemp comes in from Granger, Indiana, 223,
and she has a note that is impossible
to read.
She has a birthday coming up, and she's
got a birthday call out for somebody.
She's calling out a birthday for someone who's
going to be 100 years old.
Wow.
So this is the kind of broad range
of demo that we have on our show.
Yeah.
Zeds to 100.
That's weird.
Zeds to centennials.
So she—okay, here's—I'm going to explain what happened
here.
I have the note in front of me.
It's impossible to read.
She has good handwriting, but she's 71, and
I have to assume that when she learned
her handwriting skills, and this is longhand, this
is not printed, she's got a great hand,
but she's using a light ink, which makes
it tough, even though the copy is a
little better looking than the paper itself.
But everything is jammed together so tight, it
makes it very difficult to read aloud.
It's readable.
And so she starts off with hell.
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
It says well.
So she's using a W from—it's like French.
The French have a weird pen.
Well, finally, a moment to write a note
and tell you and— Adam.
Adam.
Thanks.
Yes, help me out here.
Thanks.
I believe I started listening to the no
agenda about— The time Adam was— Returning from
some trip.
Yeah.
His travel logs are always amusing, and they're
particularly— That particular day, exceptional.
The TSA has— Yes, I agree with this,
by the way.
I can do this.
The TSA has a way of making his
flying days exceptional, LOL.
From that day on, I was hooked.
My son-in-law, Seth, had been listening
for years and knew the king and I
would jump right on board.
The king and I.
And no, we have—and so we have for
years, and especially appreciated the COVID madness.
Can't—inserted something.
You two kept the king and I sane.
The king and I, but the king has
gone in another something-festing adventure.
In another long festering.
Long festering.
And so I'm home alone.
Ah!
Somebody go keep her company.
There's nothing better in my mind than to
see a lettuce and— A lettuce.
A letter.
Than to pen a letter and send in
a donation.
I got you.
And since my mother is due—my mother is
due to be 100 November 28th, I wanted
you and Adam to wish her a happy—wish
her a happy one for me.
My mother— Alberta.
Alberta.
Yeah.
Chugs along—was she drinking Chardonnay?
Chugs along and for the most part does
well mentally.
Current events stump her, but events of the
past come to mind of 10.
My brother and I— I don't get that
one either.
My brother and I learn new things all
the time.
Since 100 seems like a measly amount, I'll
add on a bit more.
I turned 71 the 25th of November.
Congratulations.
My daughter, Rachel, was 35 May 2nd, and
my granddaughter, Edith, Edie, is 17 months.
Oh.
Four generations comes to a grand total of
$223.
We are all flyover girls.
Fly girls.
Or shall I say good Mediterranean stock.
Hopefully the enclosed— I'm surprised we're even trying
to get through this interview.
My mom used to write like this, so
this is why she— Oh, okay.
Hopefully the enclosed donation will fill up your
bank account some too.
Thank you.
Mom, the king, and I, happy Thanksgiving too.
Truly, Barbara Camp.
P.S. the jam is from my kitchen.
But she's got a ball of jam.
The fruit crop was perfect this year.
Wow.
Thank you for the note.
I appreciate that.
That's really beautiful.
Happy birthday to Alberta.
100 years.
Yeah, wow.
Wow is right.
That's a big deal.
Very few people can accomplish that feat.
Yes.
You're up.
I just read an entire note.
All right, Beth.
Douche.
Beth Elliot in Corrytown, Tennessee.
Whoops, another note.
This is from page 7.
Let's see if we can— Oh, it says,
ITM Gents.
I can read this.
Beth, 222.22— Hey, you're cheating again.
I'm going to read it.
ITM Gents, congratulations.
Thank you for your courage.
Yours truly, Beth, a.k.a. Beth.
Thank you, Beth.
Bay Beth.
Hey, and there's Eli the Coffee Guy with
$211.27, $200 plus today's date, 11-27.
He's from Bensonville, Illinois.
I am enjoying his product as we speak.
He says, with the turkey on the table
and Thanksgiving entering the rear view, the season
of America consumerism and year-end retrospectives is
in full swing.
We've got John and the No Agenda— What
am I?
Chopped liver?
Yeah.
We've got John, John, and the No Agenda
Show to thank for reminding us where the
holiday even came from.
Oh, that's true.
As a producer, I'm grateful for you, too,
and your dedication showing up even on the
holidays.
And while we're on gratitude, I'm thankful for
all producers out there who start their morning
with gigawatt.
Quick heads up, if you missed the early
access email, no worries.
Our cans are officially available to everyone, and
we're kicking off a site-wide Black Friday
sale through Monday.
So visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and treat yourself or
someone else to the gift of good coffee.
Stay caffeinated, says Eli the Coffee Guy.
Thank you, Eli.
I love the cold brews.
Although here's a tip I have, because it
says shake vigorously for it to release the
nitro.
Yeah.
So when you do that, you want to
grab like a Kleenex or something before you
open it, because— Yeah, that's with all nitro
stuff.
Yeah, because it sprays a bit.
Yeah, it'll spray you.
Yeah, so just open it with a Kleenex
and then toss that away.
It's good.
You could use a napkin.
Napkin is—yes, that's appropriate.
I want to just interim here thank Sir
Benjamin Ritgers, and also some other person sent
one of these.
I got two of those flags I've been
wanting to get free.
Oh, oh.
The flag with the pirate, the straw hat
pirate guy.
The anime.
Skull and Crossbones.
Yeah, I got two of these flags.
The one piece.
They're made in China, by the way.
Yeah, the one piece flag.
They're made in China, which I thought was
ironic.
But, so I want to thank them for
the flags.
I have flags hanging now.
I look like a protester.
You don't even have a flagpole, man.
I don't have a flagpole, and I'm glad.
Matthew Martel, our buddy in Broomall, Pennsylvania.
21060.
The spats between Adam and JCD are akin
to Andy Kaufman and Jerry Lawler.
That's a callback that I get, Adam doesn't
get, very few people get.
It's an op, everybody.
Visit MartelHardware.com.
Use coupon code RAGEBAIT for an additional 10
% off your order.
Happy Thanksgiving.
JCD Hot Pockets is what he wants to
hear.
Hot Pockets.
And coming in with $209, Dame Patricia Worthington
from Merced, California.
Handwritten note.
Dear Adam and Donna.
It says Dame Patricia.
Now, Worthington is the one, Dame Patricia Worthington
is in Florida.
Oh, I'm sorry.
This is just Dame Patricia.
I am so sorry.
Thank you for the correction.
And she has a birthday November 29th.
Is that on the list?
Can you check that for me?
Let me just see.
Is she on the list?
Yeah.
When Jay puts it on the note at
the top, it's on the list.
Yeah, it's there.
Okay.
Here's her note, which I can read, thanks
to my mom.
Dear John Adam, I have been a loyal
listener since the dark days of 2020.
Thank you for illuminating, thank you for illuminating,
for your illuminating commentaries.
Please wish my daughter, Emily Mitchell, a happy
birthday on November 29th.
Another follower of your show in Uriah, California.
Ukiah.
Ukiah, California.
Now, let's plug my son's business.
Okay.
Brian Lewis' surface painting and wallpapering featuring Italian
plastering and specialty finishes in Atascadero, San Luis
Obispo County, California.
San Luis.
Oh, I always thought it was San Luis.
Okay.
San Luis Obispo.
Text Brian.
Text him right now.
Everybody, text Brian.
It's all text Brian.
805-470-9917.
You can rewind that to hear it again.
So he knows you're a real person and
not Yelp or Google trying to sell some
advertising space.
Now he's going to get spammed by ITMs
from every rando that listens to the show.
Claim your no-agenda discount.
That's right.
May God bless you and keep you well.
Dame Patricia with practically perfect penmanship.
God bless you too, Dame Patricia.
Thank you very much.
I'm not that jacked on penmanship.
I loved it.
But I will say this.
Doing Italian plastering is a big deal.
Yes.
So this guy's probably really good.
All right.
Onward.
Linda Lupak.
And there she is in Lakewood, Colorado for
200 bucks.
Jobs Karma.
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gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all
your executive resume and job search needs.
That's ImageMakersInc with a K.
And work with Linda Lu, Duchess of Jobs
and writer of winning resumes.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Lupak Karma.
And I believe that concludes our executive and
associate executive producers for episode 1820, our Thanksgiving
special episode.
We're so happy that everyone supported us.
And I like that we were able to
take a little extra time to read some
of these handwritten notes.
It is highly appreciated, if only for John
and I.
Again, we'll thank the rest of our donors,
$50 and above, coming up pretty soon, because
I do have to get out of here
on time and we're running long thanks to
those notes.
So go to NoAgendaDonations.com.
It's value for value.
Whatever you get out of the show, stick
it right back in.
NoAgendaDonations.com.
Congrats to the executive and associate executive producers.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the
mouth.
Shut up, Steve.
I have one presentation on the sex scandal
going on in the Army, which I think
is disgusting.
Sex scandal?
I have random clips.
This is an A-block type thing.
You left that for the D-block?
Yeah, well, I could have played it earlier,
but I think it was so much more
important that we discuss the...
The what?
The don't abandon the ship or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, the seditious six.
I got you.
All right.
Okay, so set us up.
What is this about?
Well, it sets itself up as self-explanatory,
but this isn't getting a lot of play.
I don't know why, but maybe it's because
everyone's on vacation.
They don't want to cover anything.
Don't want to work.
Nobody wants to work, and so here we
go.
So the PBS apparently does want to work,
and so they gave us this report as
dynamite.
This week, the U.S. Army has been
reckoning with a sexual abuse scandal that could
involve the largest number of allegations in its
history.
An Army doctor is accused of abusing women
who were under his care.
Here's Ana Navas.
The Army has sent out approximately 2,500
patient notification letters to women examined by one
doctor within its ranks.
Oh, man.
It's part of a massive investigation into cases
of alleged sexual abuse.
All patients of 47-year-old doctor and
Army Major Blaine McGraw.
He's an OBGYN at Fort Hood in Texas,
and before that, at an Army base in
Hawaii.
Approximately 80 women have filed a legal complaint
against him.
One case alleges that McGraw, quote, used his
position of trust to sexually exploit, manipulate, and
secretly record women under his care.
Joining us now is attorney Andrew Kobos, representing
70 alleged victims of Dr. McGraw.
Kobos is a West Point graduate who served
in the U.S. Army, including at Fort
Hood.
Andrew, welcome to the show.
Thanks for joining us.
Glad to be here.
So just start by telling us about these
women that you're representing.
Who are they?
Are they active duty?
Are they military spouses?
And what exactly are they alleging was done
to them by this doctor?
The majority of the women that we represent
are military spouses, and they span all four
branches of the military—Army, Air Force, Navy, and
Marine.
Now, this abuse happened both at Fort Hood
and in Hawaii at Tripler Army Medical Center.
And there were hundreds, if not thousands, of
women under Dr. McGraw's care, and he violated
them in multiple ways.
He took photographs and videos of them as
they were in their most vulnerable position in
his exam room.
He touched them in improper ways that were
medically unnecessary.
And on occasion, he induced birth without their
consent, without their knowledge, and without notification to
their family that they were going to give
birth.
And so this is, as I've been describing
it, one of the largest and most significant
sexual assault cases in the history of the
military.
Holy crap.
Yeah, you haven't even heard of it, have
you?
No, what kind of creep is this guy?
This is like the soccer coach.
No, the Olympic guy.
Yeah, whatever, like so many doctors.
I mean, sorry, doctors, but so it's— Yeah,
there are doctors out there that are up
to no good.
You know what it is?
It's because he's talking to his chatbot all
day.
All right, I'm going to just get this
wrapped.
In one of the complaints filed by Jane
Doe, obviously her identity is protected, she talked
about invasive breast and vaginal exams that were
unnecessary, not being given a medical gown to
wear during those examinations, and then, as you
mentioned, secretly being recorded on a phone that
Dr. McGraw kept in his jacket pocket.
How did your clients come to learn about
those photos and videos?
Fortunately, one of the women that we represent
had her husband in the examination room.
Now, this is not a common occurrence.
It was actually a rare occurrence for Dr.
McGraw to have anybody, to allow anybody in
the exam room while he was working on
these patients.
And the husband of his patient was behind
Dr. McGraw.
He leaned in while he was doing a
pelvic examination, and his phone in his lab
coat tipped forward.
The husband was able to visually see that
the phone was on record, and immediately he
was concerned about his wife, about her in
this position.
And so he tried notifying the chain of
command.
He called CID.
Fortunately, CID started an investigation, and he experienced
a lot of frustration trying to bring his
complaints and trying to bring awareness to the
military that this doctor was unlawfully and improperly
recording his patients.
And so, ultimately, CID got involved, an investigation
was undertaken, and they found large numbers of
videos and photographs on his phone.
CID, of course, is the Criminal Investigative Division
of the Army.
The Army did provide us with a statement,
which I want to read to you in
part here.
They said they're committed to supporting patients affected
by the allegations.
They've swiftly established a call center, assigned a
special victims council, are actively notifying patients, and
they say they've created a patient support line
as well.
They're encouraging people with information to come forward.
I'm hoping that we, in these next two
clips, we get to how many women he's
done this to.
Well, they did say 86 are on his
list.
Okay.
And over 1,200 women have been sent
letters, so we know it could be over
1,000 easily.
Oh, man.
And the thing about it is the next
clips are the part that are disgusting, which
is the women who had these issues, they
tell somebody about it right away, and they're,
eh, whatever.
And so nobody cares, nobody does anything until
the male that catches the guy, who's an
obvious idiot, says he's got the camera recording
as his wife is being examined, and he
catches this, and it starts, and he still
has to struggle.
The last clips will explain this.
But as you mentioned, Andrew, before Fort Hood,
Dr. McGraw was posted in Hawaii.
They tell us in a statement that they're
in the process of notifying Dr. McGraw's patients.
You told my colleague that you spoke to
nurses at that Hawaii medical center.
What did you hear from them?
When I spoke to the nurses at Tripler
Army Medical Center, what they said is that
it was common knowledge around Tripler that there
were allegations against Dr. McGraw of videotaping and
recording his patients, so much so that it
was a standing joke among the folks at
Tripler that Dr. McGraw always got the crazy
patients.
And that is what I've heard.
We are working to establish in greater detail
the investigation that was conducted over McGraw at
Tripler Medical Center.
We know that there was an investigation, but
so far we haven't heard from the Army.
And that's left a lot of people wondering,
how long did the Army know?
What did they know?
And why didn't they take proactive measures to
address these situations?
So you know that there was a complaint
at the Hawaii Medical Center before he was
transferred to Fort Hood.
I know some of your clients said they
complained about this doctor and those complaints went
nowhere.
Really, we have a couple of different issues
there.
One is that complaints were going unrecognized.
I have clients who, after visiting with McGraw,
stepped outside into the hospital and they talked
to the on-duty nurse.
They talked to the sergeant who was at
the desk in tears.
One of my clients tells me she was
in tears and she talked for 10 minutes
and she said, he violated me.
And she was given a telephone number and
said, I can't take a report.
Call this number.
And she called the number time after time
after time after time.
And she got hung up on.
She got put on hold.
She was unable to actually make the report.
And this is one of the common complaints.
Well, this is depressing for Thanksgiving.
I like to go out on a high
note.
So yes, and this is a classic example.
I've noticed this with other government agencies.
They give you a phone number.
There's nobody there at the other end.
They hang up or they go, oh, hold
on a second, click.
It's horrible.
And this is inexcusable.
And the thing that bothers me the most
is nobody will hang for this.
The doctor will get a slap on the
wrist.
Maybe he even goes to prison.
But all the other people are responsible.
The people who didn't take the reports, the
people who didn't take it seriously, the phony
baloney phone number you're supposed to call and
nobody answers.
Nobody will get any reprimands or anything, which
is what this stuff continues to happen because
of that, just allowing people to slide.
I realize there are a lot of questions
still unanswered here, Andrew.
But what does justice look like?
What's the accountability your clients are seeking?
There are multiple ways that justice should occur
and accountability should occur in this situation.
The first and most obvious way is to
hold the perpetrator responsible for his actions.
But McGraw is also accountable to my clients
who he victimized.
But more than that, the Army is accountable,
and they should be held responsible for what
they did not do in this situation.
My clients are ultimately filing a federal tort
claims act lawsuit against the Army, and they're
seeking restitution for the damages and the harms
that they suffered at the hands of an
Army employee who should have been removed from
that position.
And the unfortunate thing is that this is
a pattern that happens in the Army and
quite frankly happens in all of the military
services.
And if you just want to go back
to the Vanessa Guillen incident in 2020 and
look at what the fallout was from that
incident, a 272-page report addressing the shortcomings
of the Army.
And it happens again and again and again.
And I think that that is what accountability
looks like.
It looks like reforming the system, not just
paying lip service, but actually going in and
figuring out how do we address the problem
of sexual assault in the military.
And that is a good starting point to
address the problems that these victims faced and
what accountability looks like in the Army.
Well, yeah, and we also go to look
at James Comer.
The whole thing is the Republicans, it's everybody,
it's a bureaucracy.
There's no accountability.
Nobody ever gets reprimanded or punished.
It just continues on.
And who pays the bill for this?
The taxpayers.
You're paying for these issues because they're going
to get sued.
The Army's going to have to pay a
big fine, and the military budget has to
go up.
Here's what I recommend, everybody.
Call the suits.com.
Call a guy who knows the ropes.
Rob the constitutional lawyer.
He'll get you millions.
Yeah, well, you can do that if you
want.
That was completely different.
It's still going to cost the taxpayers money.
Yeah, okay.
Well, you could have done two clips, honestly.
I thought it was good.
Eight minutes.
There you go again.
Eight minutes of that.
You would have said the same thing if
I did it.
You would have said, yeah, it was okay.
But I would have after the show.
Oh.
All right, I'll end this on a high
note.
Ready?
This morning, Campbell's Soup is denying claims about
its products, allegedly made by an executive in
a recorded conversation.
The person in the recording is also heard
belittling Campbell's customers during an expletive-filled rant.
We have **** that's for four people.
Who buys our ****?
This is unlistenable, this little bit, but I
left it in.
Because he's basically saying, I don't eat that
crap.
Why does anyone buy that crap?
I don't eat our bioengineered chicken.
He's an executive, and he's also talking about
the thing, I hope you have it in
there, is the 3D-printed chicken is in
the chicken noodle soup.
Yeah, that's what he says.
I won't eat 3D-printed chicken.
It's so healthy.
Now that I know what the **** it
is.
It's bioengineered meat.
I don't want to eat a **** piece
of chicken that came from a 3D printer.
The recording is allegedly from a conversation that's
now part of a lawsuit filed by Robert
Garza, a cybersecurity analyst for Campbell's, who claims
he was fired after reporting the alleged remarks,
which he says also included racist comments about
company employees.
Garza claims Campbell executive Martin Bali made those
comments after the two met to discuss Garza's
salary.
In a statement, Garza's attorney saying, This situation
has been very hard on Robert.
He thought Campbell's would be thankful that he
reported Martin's behavior, but instead, he was abruptly
fired.
Campbell's responding, saying, If the comments were in
fact made, they are unacceptable.
They do not reflect our values and the
culture of our company.
And going on to say, The comments heard
on the recording about our food are not
only inaccurate, they are patently absurd.
Nothing melts away the cold like a delicious
hot bowl of Campbell's soup.
Campbell's saying, The chicken meat used in our
soups comes from long-trusted USDA-approved U
.S. suppliers and meets our high-quality standards.
And the company noting, Bali worked in IT
and had nothing to do with food production.
Bali is on leave pending a company investigation.
In the meantime, the attorney general in Florida,
a state that bans lab-grown meat, says
his office is now investigating Campbell's products.
I guarantee you it's lab-grown meat.
You know it.
Oh, it's USDA-approved products.
Oh, okay.
Who knows what's in there if it's USDA
-approved?
It sounds believable.
How is this an upbeat note?
Well, because nobody in their right mind eats
Campbell's soup.
Yeah, but that's not upbeat.
You're slamming the company.
And it's just a negative story.
Dude, I thought you'd have something funny.
Well, do a talk clip then.
Oh, no, the TikTok clip's not funny either.
I do have something that's got to be
kind of funny.
Well, oh.
I don't want to sound like you.
No, it's more like.
Well, let's do this.
This is, let's play the weather report because
everyone's traveling right now and there's a Thanksgiving
cold blast.
Okay, that'll do it.
On this day before Thanksgiving, a major winter
storm and a plunge in temperatures is wreaking
havoc with many travelers' schedules.
Flight delays are piling up, and as John
Yang reports, temperatures will drop to 20 degrees
below normal in much of the central and
eastern parts of the country.
Climate change is real.
I'm going to show my support by donating
to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
In the morning.
Yes, we're our segues, and we have a
few people to thank over $50.
Not as many as I thought, but quite
a few, and Adam will read them off
one at a time.
Talia Dupree is in McKinney, Texas, not too
far from here, $150, and she is also
asking to be on the birthday list.
Is she on the birthday list?
Is a good question.
No, she's not.
Jay, Talia.
Talia, what's her last name?
Dupree, 42.
Talia Dupree, 42, on the 28th.
We got you, just in time.
Dame Rita, Sparks, Nevada, 133.33. And she
did add a little note, which I will
share because she's always donating.
I've witnessed several young adults buying Costco's ready
-made mac and cheese for their potluck Thanksgiving
gathering.
The show's mac and cheese jingle came to
mind.
Yes, we've been predicting this for 18 years.
Christine Hines, Manchester, New Hampshire, 12345.
Thank you.
Robin Tolbert, Topeka, Kansas, 103.33. Message received.
William Galton, Naples, Florida, 100.
Anonymous from San Francisco.
Anon, I should say, 100.
Frank Molinari from Bulverde, Texas, $100.
Kev McLaughlin, there he is.
Is his first name Bulverde?
Bulverde, yes.
He's in Concord, North Carolina.
He is the Archduke of Luna and lover
of boobs, and he comes in with 8008.
Thank you very much.
Victoria P.
in West Orange, New Jersey.
Hello, West Orange.
This is a switcheroo for James Ramsawak.
77.35, towards knighthood of my hot and
humble husband.
It's his 35th birthday on Thanksgiving.
And he says, John, please don't forget your
tip of the day for the knives or
I'll be left without a Christmas gift.
That's a hint.
Okay, it's coming.
John Alberini, $70.26. Dame Becky, Arlington, Washington,
69.69, dudes.
Raymond Baker Jr., Hoffman Estates, Illinois, 67.67.
Dame Liberty Mom, Vista, California.
Small boobs for her, 6006.
Nancy McMurphy, San Bruno, California, 57.21. Surprise
in Yukon, Oklahoma, 54.44. Luke Elbert Murphy,
North Carolina.
Switcheroo for his brother, Jake Elbert, who needs
karma.
Coming up, $54.
Nathan Gwynn in Jackson, Tennessee, 52.72. Frank
Pugh, Tallahassee, Florida, 52.71. Interesting.
There's one penny difference for some reason.
And Mike Vallick in Chattanooga, Tennessee, 52.71.
We have Bob Newell in Penfield, Pennsylvania, 52
.50. Baron Henry from Ranchos Palos Verdes in
California, 52.42. Andrew Benz from Imperial, Missouri,
5005.
And here are the 50s.
Brad Denton from Boise, Idaho.
Melissa Alvarez from Ponte Verde Beach, Florida, 50.
George Wuschat in La Vernia, Texas, 50.
Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon.
Benjamin Ryan in Alliance, Ohio.
Richard Gardner, parts unknown.
Ox Utherix, Buffalo, New York.
Michael Myers from Diamond Head, Missouri.
Sir Michael from Snohomish, Washington.
And wrapping up our row of 50s, Leanne
Shipley in Covington, Washington.
We appreciate all of you so much, as
well as our executive and associate executive producers
for today's episode.
And we thank everyone who came in under
$50.
Typically for anonymity, we'll never mention you under
50, but we do see you 49.99.
And of course, you can set up a
recurring donation, any amount, any frequency, which is
a good idea to do, and it's a
great way to support our value for value
model.
Go to noagendadonations.com.
Any amount, any frequency, noagendadonations.com.
It's your birthday party on No Agenda.
Barbara Kemp turned 71 on the 25th.
Happy birthday, Barbara, was a beautiful note.
Anonymous from Bainbridge Island wishes Craig Philly and
a happy one.
He celebrated on the 25th.
And Anonymous from Bainbridge Island celebrates today, the
27th.
Victoria P., happy birthday to her hot and
humble husband, James Ramaswak, turns 35 today.
Jessie Dvorak, turning 27.
Congratulations.
It says Jessie.
Turning, turning.
It says Jessie Dvorak, November 27th.
Yeah, but she's not turning 27.
Did I say that?
Yeah.
Well, I'm sorry.
She's 55.
She's not 55.
How old is Jessie?
I don't know if she wants me to
say.
Okay.
Happy birthday, Jessie Dvorak, celebrating today.
Barbara Kemp, happy birthday to her mom, 100
years old tomorrow.
Alan Huntcraft turns 50 on the 29th.
Dave Patricia, happy birthday to her daughter, Emily
Mitchell.
She celebrates on the 29th.
And Justin Under the Wire, Joss Palmer, celebrating
tomorrow.
And Talia Dupree turns 42 tomorrow as well.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best
podcast in the universe.
It's your birthday now.
One, two, three.
Recipients of the official No Agenda Peace Prize.
We are very proud to hand these out
to the following well-deserved recipients.
Of course, Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch in Lower
Slobovia.
No idea where to send your Peace Prize,
but when you're ready for it, we've got
it for you.
Travis Guidry and Craig Fillion.
That's thanks to their $1,000 in support.
You automatically qualify and are awarded with the
official No Agenda Peace Prize.
We got a dame, and we have a
knight, and I have my blade.
And where's your sword?
Here you go, the regular one.
You can use that to carve the turkey.
Janine and Alexander, hop up here on the
stage.
Both of you have supported the show, the
No Agenda Show, in the amount of $1
,000 or more.
That makes you qualified for me to pronounce
K.B. as Dame Janine of Beat Them
Until Morale Improves.
And the Norwegian Knight.
Welcome to the roundtable, both of you.
We have the requisite hookers and blow, rentboys
and chardonnay.
We've got pepperoni rolls and pale ales here,
redheads and ryes.
Ruminesque, women and rosé, along with the hookers
and blow, rentboys and chardonnay, of course.
Von Hintzen, bourbon, sparkling cider, and esports.
Ginger ale and gerbils, fresh milk and Pabloman,
as always, at the roundtable.
We've got some mutton and some mead just
for you.
Welcome.
Go to NoAgendaRings.com.
Same for our No Agenda Peace Prize recipients.
Let us know where to send it to.
And for the Knight and for the Dame,
please give us your ring size.
There's a ring size guide on the website.
And with that, you'll get a certificate of
authenticity.
And, of course, some wax to seal your
ultra-important correspondence with your brand-new Signet
Knight or Dame ring.
No Agenda Meetups!
Well, we do have that one meetup that
took place today.
I'm sure it's over, the huffing and puffing
for stuff.
And so this was a turkey trot two
-mile walk.
And I hope they're done by now.
This started at 11 in the morning in
Spokane.
Let us know how that went.
Send us in a meetup report.
On Saturday, the Wageningen Food Hub VogueFest.
You'll owe nothing and love this bitterball meetup
in the Netherlands at Wageningen University in Gelderland.
And that will be hosted by soon-to
-be Sir Jaap of the Frankenfoods Valley and
Sir Doris of the Wild Boar Mountains.
And Sir Berend Goescadaver.
Please RSVP, because they're expecting you to come.
December.
We've got Galeta, California.
Raleigh, North Carolina.
Toronto and Canada.
Rochester, Minnesota.
Eagle Eye, Idaho.
Indianapolis, Indiana.
Charlotte, North Carolina.
Clovis, California.
Santa Rosa, California.
And Los Altos, California.
How is it possible so many people in
California are listening to this show?
When you have those meetups, send the report
to us.
Include your server.
And if you'd like to find out more
about any of the meetups, go to noagendameetups
.com.
If you can't find one near you, start
one yourself.
Get it on noagendameetups.com.
Sometimes you want to go hang out with
all the nights and days.
You want to be where you won't be.
Triggered or hella lame.
You want to be where everybody feels the
same.
It's like a bomb.
So, before we get to John's tip of
the day, which of course is a great
way to end any show.
It will not be the Knives Tip today.
I'm reliably informed, but that is coming.
It may be a Thanksgiving tip.
We always like to...
It's not?
Not really.
We always like to...
Well, maybe.
Do a little test here of what we
will end the show with.
I'm not sure...
Well, before you do that, I have to
correct an error.
So, I don't get letters or notes, and
it should have been done by the chat
room.
ES is the top-level domain for Spain.
So, our Norwegian Knight has a Spanish ISP.
EE is for Estonia.
Oh, okay.
Now, the trolls are doing nothing today.
No, they're not helping.
No, they...
We try to make these corrections during the
show so we don't get notes from people.
Notes.
You guys don't know what you're talking about.
All right, here's my end-of-show ISO
candidates.
Thank you for that!
Oh, my God.
Yeah, or this one.
Flu season is back open.
Woo-hoo!
And the final...
I went to the well.
This is so good!
Top that!
Actually, I do like that one a bit.
I do have two...
Both of mine are better.
Oh.
So, what are they called?
I don't have them in front of me.
Stick and Dadgum.
Yeah, Dadgum.
Play Dadgum.
Dadgum it.
They hit it out of the park again.
I know that guy from somewhere.
I'm not sure.
He's right to the point.
Yeah.
Stick is six seconds.
And then this one's probably too long, but
I like it.
The show could not be any better if
it was put on a stick and deep
-fat fried.
No, no.
You're doing too much.
You gotta...
No.
I think it's between...
Dadgum it.
They hit it out of the park again.
And this one.
This is so good!
Well, since I'm winning all the time...
Why don't you use the Alex Jones one?
Okay, we'll do that.
And now, before we go, it is time
for John's Tip of the Day.
I'm going back to the well, and I
realize I never pushed this one hot sauce,
which would be good on turkey, I will
say.
And I use it all the time.
I have a longstanding relationship with different hot
sauces.
I have this, you know, I always think
one of the greatest sauces ever made is
Tabasco sauce, the brand.
And the way they make it, it's made
with these special peppers.
And then we've had Melinda's.
I promoted that on the show before.
And I always like Crystal, too, which is
a very nice sauce.
But I've replaced the Crystal with actually this
incredibly mild hot sauce.
It's really mild.
And it's called Frank's Red Hot.
Yeah, Frank's Red Hot.
Frank's Red Hot is a sauce that's been
around forever.
I only discovered it about a decade ago,
and I feel kind of bad about it
because I always looked at it as some
sort of a cheap, sleazy, useless hot sauce.
Maybe it's because I'm getting older, and my
palate likes stuff like this.
I think it only has 450 Scovilles.
It's not that hot.
And by the way, Frank's is the base
for Buffalo Chicken Wing sauce, or what you
toss the Buffalo Chicken Wings in.
And for all practical purposes, Buffalo Chicken Wing
sauce is nothing more than half Frank's hot
sauce, or Red Hot, as they call it,
Frank's hot sauce and butter.
Half butter, half this sauce.
You've got the Chicken Wing sauce.
You can put some Worcestershire in there if
you want to.
But that's essentially it.
This stuff, you can just douse things with
it.
It's almost could be a soup.
You just put it on everything, and I
think it's got one of the best flavor
profiles of any just rando condiment.
It's delicious, and it would be good on
turkey.
You could even put it on your cornflakes.
I don't know about that.
It's a funny idea.
There it is, everybody.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Terrific.
I'm sorry.
It's a terrific product.
There it is.
Of course it's a terrific product, because it
is one of John's tips of the day.
Created by a show, you and me.
Just a tip with JCD.
And sometimes Adam.
Created by Dan J.
And just get the original.
Well, I hope everybody enjoyed the show today.
We are doing real work.
Unlike MS Now, who for the past hour
and a half have had Nicole Wallace with
headphones on, sitting there, because she thinks, oh,
yeah, we've got to have other podcasters on
my podcast.
She's doing a podcast on MS Now with
the whole crew from the Midas Touch podcast.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, that's the level you get.
But not here.
Not on the No Agenda Show.
No, no, no, no.
In fact, we'll even end it with some
end of show mixes.
We've got MVP checking in twice, and Danny
Luce is back.
MVP sandwiching in Danny Luce.
And we will return on Sunday for more
excitement here on the No Agenda Show.
Please join us.
And I am coming to you today from
the heart of the Texas Hill Country in
Fredericksburg, Texas.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And I'm from Northern Silicon Valley, where we
wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving.
Have a good meal tonight.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
Thank you for being your producer of the
best podcast in the universe.
We really appreciate you.
And remember us at noagendadonations.com.
We've got Planet Rage, our 200th episode, next
on the stream.
Until Sunday.
Adios, fo-fos.
A-hoo-wee-hoo-wee.
And such.
Good evening, everyone.
Welcome to the show.
Yeah.
Let's deconstruct a boomer and boomer adjacent.
Two guys on the air.
One in the valley.
One way down there.
Menlo the buzzkill says don't trust your head.
That's what he said.
Then you got Castor, the man they call
Crackpot.
A transplant Texan fired up, giving all that
he's got.
18 long years, a tradition so strong, they
got set.
It's no agenda.
Every Thursday and Sunday.
Three whole hours to write in your mundane
day.
From the podfather, Castor to writer, Menlo's latest
word.
They deconstruct the news.
The real truth is heard.
They might not agree.
Oh, oh, agenda.
Put it in your feed.
No agenda.
Exactly what you need.
That's a bunch of BS.
Charlie!
millions of families.
At the same time, these fascist bastards murdered
more than 100 million lives.
I believe in the right to eat.
Unfortunately my family does not agree.
No mouths but their own.
They feed, they can't stand it when other
people eat.
The west wing halls feel narrow.
The oval's getting tight.
I need a little elbow room to set
the rhythm right.
The architects are boring.
Their vision's far too small.
I'm looking for a dance floor that goes
right through the wall.
I need more ballroom, baby.
I need a floor that spans a mile.
A place to do the foxtrot with the
presidential style.
Clear out the drab and dullness.
Tear down the plaster mold.
And when you paint the trim, boy, make
sure it's solid gold.
Don't bring me polysilver.
Don't bring me matte or chrome.
I want that mitre shimmering to make it
to match my golden dome.
The best podcast in the universe.
Adios, mofo.
Dvorak.org slash N-A.
This is so good.