Round 10!
Adam Curry, John C.
Devorah.
December 29, 2024, this is your award-winning
Cuban Asian Media Assassination Episode 1725.
This is no agenda.
Rejecting the jet lag and broadcasting live from
the heart of the Chichago country here in
FEMA Region Number 16.
Good morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And we're here in Silicon Valley where we're
all asking the same question.
Who the hell buys food from Home Shopping
Network?
I'm John C.
Devorah.
It's Clackvaughn and Buzzkill.
In the morning!
The bigger question is, why were you watching
the Home Shopping Network?
Oh, I watch it all the time.
I love the Home Shopping Network.
QVC and the other one, the big one,
which is the Jewelry TV, JTV.
But isn't Instagram and TikTok, they're basically the
new Home Shopping Networks now?
I don't know.
I never bought anything from them.
Oh, oh, the ladies, they buy everything off
of Instagram.
I've never, no.
No, well, you're not the ladies.
I'm not the ladies for one thing.
You're not the ladies.
No, you're not.
Maybe I'll catch up.
You're not the ladies.
But they're selling breaded chicken cutlets this morning
on Home Shopping.
All kinds of food is prepared.
It's like, why?
Who's going to buy?
Oh, all you have to do is heat
it up, you know, and it's not cheap.
But this is what has become of our
intake here.
It's pathetic, to be honest about it.
Who's going to buy breaded chicken cutlets from
Home Shopping Network and then reheat it?
Well, they're setting you up for their next
product.
This next item we have is a special
discount on Ozempic.
Yeah, we haven't done that yet.
It's coming.
So the end is near.
The Skynet is closing in on us.
Let me tell you about our return from
Europe.
Oh, yes.
Now, OK, well, you have to brief everyone.
If you haven't listened to the show for
a while, Adam has been in Europe now.
He came back during a horrendous moment in
flight history because all the airports were closed.
There was there was delays everywhere.
I was watching the news thing.
See, I hope Adam gets back in time
for the show.
Yeah, no, there was no problem whatsoever.
Well, good.
But again, they psyched me out.
But I will say this about that.
Facial recognition is here.
Leaving Schiphol Airport, facial recognition to exit customs.
That's the EU in most countries, except for
the United States, of course.
You have to go through customs when you
leave so they know you left.
I've never understood why we don't have that.
But you walk through a little a little
gate.
Good to go.
Gate opens.
Walk through.
Board onto Delta.
Do you need your boarding pass, your passport?
No.
Facial recognition.
Good to go.
Come into the United States.
We came to Atlanta.
Now, I will say we got global entry
because the last time we came in, we
came back from Mexico.
We stood in line for two hours.
I'm like, OK, I'm giving up my biometric
data for this.
This is crazy.
I haven't had global entry in at least
maybe about 10 years.
And you walk up to the kiosk.
I have my global entry card.
I've got my passport.
No, no, no.
Go.
And then you walk up to the customs
agent.
He's just waving you on through.
It's facial recognition all the way through, which,
of course, means now with the flip of
the switch, they can block me, stop me
from going anywhere.
It was a flip of the switch.
Yeah.
It was great on one hand.
On the other hand, just frightening.
I had this was I told the story
in the show before, but about looking back
at it, maybe almost 15 years ago, maybe
20, I was in Portugal.
And I was at some event.
And the next door to the event I
was at, there was a tech event of
sorts for police departments and security experts.
And they had a facial recognition system there
that you could play with.
So and this was like 10, 15 years
ago.
And so and it was for it was
designed for airports.
And so they you go through it as
many times as you want to do in
anything you wanted to do.
I was going through with my cheeks puffed
out my hand in front of my face.
I went through it about 10 times.
It never missed once it got your original
face.
It just you couldn't fool it.
Yeah.
And that was the thing that bothered me.
To this day, I remember that there's nothing
you could do to fool it.
You close your eyes.
You could squint.
You could lift one eyebrow.
You could do all kinds of things.
And it was not being fooled by any
of it.
No, I know.
I know.
It's it's it's a good technology.
It's it's quite it's quite remarkable.
Quite good.
It's quite remarkable.
Now, I mean, that since then, they've they've
determined that even if you wear a mask.
Oh, well, even the iPhone unlocks with your
mask on these days.
Oh, yeah.
This stuff is good.
And, you know, your iPhone, of course, is
taking a snapshot every what?
Five seconds.
It's looking to see if you got your
face in front of it.
So it's take it's the whole thing.
It's great, but it's really not great.
It's not great at all.
No, it's great because it's onerous.
It's the word you look for.
Onerous would be today's word.
Yeah, it's onerous.
We don't need this aggravation.
No, not really happy with it.
Well, let's stick with aviation, then, since you
brought it up.
By the way, since we have this so
much of this facial recognition, how come they
can't stop all crime?
Well, now you've stumped me.
I don't know if they can stop all
crime, but they, you know, really catch it.
They should be able to identify all criminals.
It's coming.
I don't understand.
Many of them are recidivists that came out
of jail or prisons.
They obviously took pictures of their faces in
prison.
Yeah, so well, they can't seem to do
it at the border.
It works great for for people just traveling.
Yeah, for me, it works great for me.
Yeah.
All right.
The news, let me just I'm just going
to say I do have a background clip
on the Azerbaijan thing, if you want to
play that.
Well, I'll give you the the latest news
that came in overnight and then see if
we play the backgrounder.
Since the crash of Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 243,
suspicions have been growing over Russia's involvement.
On Saturday, the Kremlin said President Vladimir Putin
had apologized to his Azerbaijani counterpart over the
phone.
He admitted that Russian air defense was active
at the time, but stopped short of taking
responsibility.
In the conversation, it was noted that the
Azerbaijani passenger aircraft, which was following the schedule,
repeatedly tried to land at the airport of
Grozny.
At the same time, Grozny, Mosdok and Vladikavkaz
were attacked by Ukrainian combat drones and Russian
air defense systems repelled these attacks.
The Russian president did not confirm that the
plane had been hit by a Russian air
defense missile.
For experts, however, there is no doubt.
They say these holes in the plane's fuselage
are proof of shrapnel from an anti-aircraft
missile.
Meanwhile, the president of Azerbaijan, Ilham Aliyev, said
that the plane was hit in Russian airspace
by external physical interference, as suggested by survivors'
accounts.
Since the crash, which killed 38 people, Azerbaijan
Airlines has announced that it would be suspending
flights to eight other Russian cities.
Other airlines from Kazakhstan, Israel and Dubai have
followed suit and cancelled flights to Russia.
So it seems pretty clear they're going to
blame it on Ukraine because Ukraine was shooting
drones into Russian airspace and it's their fault.
They just haven't quite admitted it yet.
Do we need your background on this?
I think the background would be good because
there's some new material that came out just
before the show from our buddy Doug.
Doug?
Oh, Doug the douchebag?
Doug the douchebag from France 24.
Where has he been?
I've been missing him in my life.
He's around.
He's back.
All right, all right.
I don't remember him being called Doug the
douchebag.
Yeah, he's Doug the douchebag.
The bald douche, yeah.
Is this the Kazakh air crash?
The bald douche.
Russian President Vladimir Putin apologized to the leader
of Azerbaijan today after the deadly Azerbaijani airline
crash in Kazakhstan, but he didn't take responsibility
for the crash.
In a statement, the Kremlin says it was
responding to a Ukrainian drone strike in Chechnya.
And here's Elena Moore reports.
In a Kremlin readout of the call, Putin
characterized the crash, which killed 38 people, as
a tragic incident, apologizing that it happened in
Russian airspace.
It comes a day after White House national
security spokesman John Kirby addressed Russia's potential involvement.
We do have have seen some early indications
that would certainly point to the possibility that
this jet was brought down by Russian air
defense systems.
Kirby added that an investigation conducted by Azerbaijan
and Kazakhstan is ongoing, and the U.S.
has offered its assistance.
Where's douchebag Doug?
No, I don't have the clip.
I said that was this morning.
Oh, I'm sorry.
The background clip is the one that you're
mixing me up.
Yeah, yeah.
What did douchebag Doug say?
Douchebag Doug came on France 24.
First of all, they brought the president of
Azerbaijan this morning, came out and said Putin's
responsible.
What we wanted was an apology.
He didn't give an apology.
Now what we want is a compensation for
the lost jet and compensation for all the
dead people.
And so he made a demand on Putin,
which is one dictator to another.
And this was quite interesting.
Oh, that is.
Douchebag Doug comes on and says, well, the
problem that Putin actually has here is that
Azerbaijan is the route that the Russians have
been using.
You have to go through Azerbaijan because of
all the sanctions against Russia.
They can't do this.
They can't do that.
They can't fly here.
They can't fly there.
Azerbaijan is like the route that Russia has
to use.
And so he's got leverage on Putin, and
Putin's going to have to do something about
it.
Well, Putin should say, talk to the Europeans.
They got 300 billion of our money.
That would actually be quite funny if he
could do that.
Get it from those guys.
So that's the situation now is that, yes,
it's Putin's fault.
The guy says he was very, you know,
he's very sincere about it.
Yeah, you can acknowledge this and that, but
where's the apology?
He just wants an apology for shooting down
this plane.
Because Putin needs to figure out how to
blame it on Ukraine.
I think that ship sailed.
I have a couple of clips.
I only play one here.
This is the Russian aviation chief who went
into a little more detail.
Now to Kazakhstan.
And investigations continue into what caused the crash
of an Azerbaijani passenger plane.
How old fashioned is this style, by the
way?
And now to Azerbaijan.
I'm always reminded of these old boxing clips
of the fights in the 30s and 40s.
And you hear a guy going, round 10.
This is cornball announcing style that died 20,
30 years ago.
Yeah, except that the BBC.
Now to Kazakhstan and investigations continue into what
caused the crash of an Azerbaijani passenger plane
in the country on Christmas Day.
Representatives of Azerbaijan Airlines speak of external, physical
and technical interference, but they don't say what
that could have been.
38 people died in that crash, but there
were some survivors.
The plane had originally tried to land at
Grozny airport in southern Russia, but was denied
permission and diverted to Kazakhstan, where it crashed
near the airport at Aktau.
Well, the head of Russia's aviation watchdog, Dmitry
Yadvrov, said the diversion was necessary because of
a difficult situation around Grozny airport.
I should note that the situation in the
area of Grozny airport that day during those
hours was quite difficult.
Ukrainian combat drones were mounting terrorist attacks on
civilian infrastructure in the cities of Grozny and
Vladikavkaz.
Because of this, all aircraft had to leave
the indicated airspace immediately.
I like the term Ukrainian combat drones.
I haven't really heard it described that way.
UCDs, Ukrainian combat drones.
I like the combat drone.
Yeah, terrorist attacks.
Okay, I like that.
Um, so this seems pretty obvious.
And I like that we got that douchebag
Doug info.
There were, however, two more crashes that I
think are a little more.
Yes, yes.
Well, yeah, the one in Korea is a
nasty one.
But then, of course, I think one thing
that we should mention that we had noticed,
but we're not going to talk much about
is the Navy's shooting down of its own
F-18.
Well, that would be three crashes.
I'll skip the Navy's F-18, the 66.
How much was 66 million?
66 million dollars down the drain of taxpayer
money.
Yeah, now we complain about taxpayer money.
We always complain about taxpayer money.
There were two other crashes of note.
And yes, indeed, the first is the South
Korean airliner.
This was a dramatic moment.
The JG plane carrying 181 people crash landed
and burst into a ball of flames.
So far, two people have been pulled out
alive, but over 100 have been killed.
Officials said the landing gear of the Boeing
737 arriving from Bangkok appeared to have malfunctioned.
Local media reported it may have been caused
by birds getting into the plane system, combined
with adverse weather conditions.
They promise a thorough investigation and rescue operation.
The airline's CEO has paid tributes to those
who lost their lives.
Above all, I would like to express my
deepest condolences and apologies to the passengers and
their families whose relatives lost lives in this
accident.
Regardless of the cause of the accident, I
feel responsible as the CEO.
We at Jeju Air will do our best
to quickly resolve the accident and support the
families of the passengers.
The crash is one of the deadliest seen
in South Korea.
It is the first big test for acting
president Choi Sung-mook, who was named interim
leader of the country on Friday.
So just looking at this video right away,
I'm like, no, no, no, this is not
a bird strike.
There's some video of a puff coming out
of the engine.
The likelihood of a bird strike causing the
landing gear to not deploy is unlikely.
Also, looking at that landing, if you want
to call it a landing, no, that plane
was going very fast, had no trim, no
speed brakes, nothing was deployed.
So it looked much more like a complete
hydraulic failure.
And because, you know, you can actually lower
the gear on the 737.
You can pull a lever, a lever, and
the gear will drop just from centrifugal force,
from gravity.
It'll just drop down.
I don't know if it locks in place.
It's not a great way to do it.
But that was not happening.
If anything, it looked like they were trying
to do a touch and go and do
a go around.
And then, of course, South Korea decided to
put a very big barrier at the end
of the runway.
It's unfortunate.
It's a day wrecker.
But the same day, a KLM 737-800,
same aircraft, flight KL-1204, which you did
not hear about, overran the runway after a
diversion to Oslo.
And they said that they had a hydraulic
failure.
Smoke came from the left engine.
And now they landed okay, but they had
no control of flaps or landing gear.
So seeing that this happens on the same
day, two exact same type aircraft, I'm going
to say it would be worthwhile to look
into the latest batch of Boeing aircraft.
There may just...
Well, if they're from the same batch, which
is a possibility.
This is an old quality control thing.
You find if, you know, one goes...
This is the reason that, by the way,
just to change, I'd say, targets of the
topic.
That's why you don't buy...
When you load up with a raid for
your hard disk, a bunch of...
You buy six hard disks.
You don't buy six hard disks from the
same...
No, not from the same vendor.
No, not the same batch.
No.
No, you can get the same vendor, but
not the same batch.
Because if one fails, they all fail.
This is a very common phenomenon in high
tech.
And airplanes would be no different, or even
cars.
They, you know, when one fails from that
batch, the ones that came out that week
or that month or whatever, that weren't, you
know, before the inspectors came around and did
their job, you're going to end up with
a bunch of them failing.
Yeah, I agree.
I think you're right.
And yeah, you know, it's a good time
to blame everything on birds, you know.
Ah, it was a bird strike.
Yeah, bird flu.
Bird flu, yes.
And on that note, we do need to
go through a couple of things because some
important people have arrived back on the scene.
We start with the important introduction.
And we begin with a concerning new CDC
report on the first severe human case of
bird flu in the U.S. Samples taken
from a patient, Louisiana, show mutations that could
make it easier for this virus to spread
from person to person.
Now, right now, there's no evidence it has
passed.
No evidence.
It's been passed along to anyone else.
And the CDC says risk to the public
remains low.
But experts warn a single mutation like this
could potentially lead to another pandemic.
Yes.
And with that, ladies and gentlemen, the No
Agenda Nation, the pandemic propaganda princess is back,
scarf and all.
Joining us now is Dr. Deborah Birx.
You may remember her as the response coordinator
for the.
How does this woman even get on any
air whatsoever when she already admitted that she's
a liar?
I think there's very good reasons for this.
And as we go through a couple of
these clips, I shall explain why I believe
it.
She, by the way, Commodore Deborah Birx, former
military, although it's not on her resume, she
might have specialized in psychological operations.
She has joined a lot of different outfits.
She joined that that indoor air filter company
as the chief scientist or some nonsense like
that.
But she's also now just recently joined Texas
Tech University Health Sciences Center.
She's on all kinds of boards.
She's picking up money left and right.
Just pick some money up here, pick some
money up there.
And I'm sure she's on the this is
CNN.
I'm sure she's on the CNN payroll as
an expert to come in and talk.
You may remember her as the response coordinator
for the White House Coronavirus Task Force and
the first Trump administration.
We are very fortunate to have your expertise
as we try to figure out what's going
on with the bird flu and what it
could mean.
So, so far, 65 human cases of bird
flu have been reported in the U.S.
this year, all contracted by animals.
But now we have this new mutation in
Louisiana.
Wait, wait, wait.
All contracted by animals.
She means from animals, doesn't she?
There's going to be a lot of confusion
about that, about.
And now, is it zoonotic or zoonotic?
It's zoonotic.
Zoonotic.
When is it zoonotic?
It's only zoology.
Zoology and zoonotic.
OK, all right.
But there's going to be a lot of
confusion about it.
I did a deep dive on that just
to get that right.
I'm glad.
That's why there's two of us.
How worried should we be?
It used to be concerned.
Now, now it's worried.
How worried should we be?
Deanna, how worried should we be about bird
flu potentially becoming another pandemic?
By the way, they've got a great new
picture of the bird flu.
So just like we had coronavirus, we had
that spiky ball thing.
The spiky looking thing.
Spiky ball thing.
So this is, it looks like five.
So they've got four cells like circular cells
all stuck together with a fifth one off
to the side.
Just close enough.
Not quite there.
Oh, the one that is going to be
the one mutation away.
Yes.
Indicating that that's the one.
Yes, that's the one.
Well, I love the way you said 63
cases because I have no idea how many
cases there were.
And now this is cool.
Well, hold on.
What?
She's the expert.
No, no, no.
This is a setup because this is the
same script.
This is the script that's rolling out.
Why don't we know?
What do we need?
We need to, we need to.
Well, I love the way you said 63
cases because I have no idea how many
cases there were or are.
Because our number one principle in preventing pandemics
is detect.
And if you go to the CDC website,
you can see that they're monitoring more than
10,000 exposures, but they've only tested 530.
Oh, we need to test.
What does that mean?
That means we're not testing enough.
And we know from other viruses that a
lot of the spread can be asymptomatic.
So we're kind of have our head in
the sand about how to avoid Mary.
It's the same.
It's the same script spread.
This is from the zoonotic standpoint, from the
animal to human standpoint.
Now also remember, most of those cases described
to date happened in the spring and the
summer, not when we had H1N1 circulating right
now, when we're running the flu pandemic with
throughout the United States.
Did you know we have a flu pandemic?
She just said that.
She just said we have it.
We're running.
She said we're running the flu.
Like what is this?
What are you running?
Now she says we're running the flu pandemic.
That's what she said.
Yes, I don't like the sound of that.
Not when we had H1N1 circulating right now,
when we're running the flu pandemic with.
She even pauses like, what did I just
say?
I shouldn't be saying that.
I just gave it away.
We're running the flu pandemic right now when
we're running the flu pandemic with throughout the
throughout the United States.
So we have rising flu cases and now
we have still zoonotic events coming.
So now you've set up for potentially a
farm worker getting H5N1, also getting the current
flu strain and reassorting in that individual.
Reassorting.
It's reassorting inside of me.
To me, that's almost a bigger threat to
these mutations happening in individuals over time.
By the way, I'd like to give a
little tip for our producers out there who
are looking for some quick money.
Now is the exact moment.
You may even be a little bit on
the late side.
Get certified.
There's a whole portal.
I think CDC has a whole portal.
You as a commercial entity can get certified.
Our friends did this.
Yeah, this is the same script.
You're doing the other side of the script.
Yeah, which is the money making side.
Yeah, get certified as a testing entity.
And then you just buy up these tests
really cheap.
You can get them from Abbott because, of
course, they already exist.
Buy them up really cheap.
And then you can be on the list
and you can market to all these companies,
companies who have conferences, I mean, conferences in
general, annual shareholder meetings.
And it is a bonanza.
Remember, you're no agenda show.
When you say reassorting in that person, what
does that mean?
Okay, so the H5 virus, which doesn't adapt
too well to our upper respiratory track and
is preventing us from getting infected, but conspecting
cows and pigs and cats and dogs.
So our flu, which has the binding sites
for us, for our nasal passages.
Viruses are very specific.
And so they're very animal or human specific.
Now we have human flu circulating.
At the same time, we have the zoonotic
flu circulating.
And the zoonotic is for our viewers, again,
the animal flu.
So we have the animal flu.
Let's call it the animal flu.
And now we have human flu.
Animal flu.
Co-circulating.
And at any time, someone could get both.
But I don't know what she's saying here
over and over again is if so in
a human being, you could have the regular
flu and then the animal flu would combine
together.
And you breathe that out and you breathe
it to someone else.
And then they get.
You're right.
Keep going.
Well, then they would get the flu.
Then we'd have a mutation.
And then we're all going to die.
Yeah, exactly.
We're all going to die.
Co-circulating.
And at any time, someone could get both
of those unknowingly.
Particularly in California, where all the dairy workers
are getting exposed.
Flu is rising in the South and into
California.
So we should be monitoring carefully that dual
exposure.
Because if you get both of the flus
at the same time, the H5 flu, the
bird flu could get the genes from the
human flu and make it infectious to humans
in the same way that our current flu
is.
Okay.
So that makes sense.
Well, no.
She never says anything about raw milk.
Come on.
Oh, just patience.
Patience.
Now, good news for you.
Your favorite free item from the government should
be coming.
It could become infectious to humans even after,
even if it's not coexisting with the human
flu, right?
Well, if it mutates like it did in
this individual or in the case in Canada.
But that sometimes is a random, slower process.
Okay.
But if you have that co-infection, then
you can share genes.
Okay.
And that's a really, to me, the spring
and the summer where we had all of
the dairy cattle to farm worker exposure, we
didn't have human flu circulating.
So now we're entering a much more dangerous
period, yet we're still not testing.
And we should be providing tests free of
charge to dairy farm workers so they can
test anonymously weekly because they'll want to know
if they have both cases of potential flus
co-circulating in their own body to protect
their families.
People are very smart.
I find the American public to be incredibly
smart.
If you tell them the risk and you
give them the tools, they will utilize them
to protect themselves and their family.
Sure, they will.
This, by the way, was like 20 minutes
she was on.
They're not horsing around.
Look, you have bird flu.
Now let's bring in some more scientific terms.
You don't think this country has learned from
the COVID pandemic?
All right.
And there's not a sense of urgency right
now.
Agencies are making the same mistakes they made
with COVID.
The principle, number two principle of pandemic is
detect.
And the only way to detect for viruses
is to test.
You cannot see a virus through symptoms.
You miss so many cases.
She said, well, she said the number two.
Yeah.
And then she goes, what was number one?
Did she ever say?
Yeah, detect was number one.
She said that in the first clip.
She said detect was number one.
What's number two?
What did she just say?
Number two was.
Detect.
Well, she's lying.
Or what did she say?
Number two is.
I'm sorry.
Back it up.
Okay.
Hold on a second.
The principle, number two principle of pandemic is
detect.
Yeah, that's interesting because she said earlier, she
said the number one is detect.
Well, number one is detect.
Number two is like marketing, marketing, marketing.
The three best things, the top three things
in sales is location, location, location.
And the only way to detect for viruses
is to test.
You cannot see a virus through symptoms.
You miss so many cases.
Yet we're still talking about flu-like illness.
Well, there is no flu-like illness.
There's RSV, respiratory syncytial virus.
It causes croup.
Parents know what that is.
There's mycoplasma pneumonia circulating right now.
There's flu circulating right now.
And soon there'll be COVID circulating.
Those are all coffee.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, stop.
My understanding is based on the same bull
crap that this woman's pushed out before.
Yes.
Is that COVID is a year round thing.
It was big in the summer, winter, fall.
It doesn't matter.
So why is all of a sudden COVID
becoming seasonal?
When did that happen?
I'm asking you.
You know, I know we both know we
follow this right from the beginning.
COVID was non-seasonal.
They made a big fuss about it being
non-seasonal.
Yes.
So when did it become seasonal?
Like she just said.
Well, I'm going to move us along here
just a little bit so I can get
to the reason behind all of this.
Well, I'm sorry, but I'm interrupting on these
things.
No, no, no.
She's full of crap.
Yes.
And we have to like stop it when
it because we can't let this get go
into the public domain as as as if
it's changed magically to a seasonal problem.
Well, this next clip will give us a
little bit of a clue as to why
she is doing this and why there are
others out there doing this.
And here it comes.
I want to turn to kind of looking
ahead to Trump's picks to lead the nation's
health agencies.
You know, some of them are controversial at
HHS.
You have vaccine skeptic RFK Jr. Also a
big advocate for raw milk at NIH.
By the way, the raw milk is relevant
to the discussions.
That's why I brought that up.
Wait, stop.
I'm sorry.
I think RFK Jr. When did Kennedy ever
even mentioned raw milk in any of his
discussions?
Have you noticed this?
I have never heard.
I listen to as much crap as you
have, or at least as much as much.
Yes, as much.
And I have listened to Kennedy for and
we both have actually.
Kennedy from day one years and years ago.
We've always been admired.
You know, you can barely hear him.
I don't remember him mentioning raw milk once
in his entire spiel.
How is he now suddenly an advocate?
Let me just do a quick thing.
Let me see if we don't have any
clips, then it didn't happen.
Nope.
We have nothing on RFK Jr. And raw
milk because that's it's not about bird flu.
It's about it's it's it's already clear what
this is about at NIH.
By the way, the raw milk is relevant
to the bird flu discussions.
That's why I brought that up at NIH.
A doctor who criticized covid lockdowns at FDA,
a doctor who said the government was the
quote greatest perpetrator of misinformation during covid.
Do people like this concern you about our
preparedness for another pandemic?
What's your take?
Are you are you starting to hear what
this is about?
Are you starting to understand what this is
really about?
This is not about bird flu.
This is about RFK Jr. This is a
hit job.
And who shows up on CBS Face the
Nation?
Our other prop pandemic propaganda princess, Lena, when
something called reassortment, where things change because of
one illness becoming another illness through reassortment of
a mutated same script.
Reassortment.
I've never heard of reassortment.
This is never heard of this in my
life.
Brand new brand new combined age of way
over 100.
And it's like we do not have these
things in the background.
It's like RSV over a way over a
standby.
Lena, when will unpack virus?
That's right.
So the viruses could exchange genes.
You could develop a new hybrid virus.
And if you have a virus that's more
contagious and causes more severe disease, that's when
it becomes a major threat to humankind.
What should be happening in the Biden administration
right now that isn't going on?
Yeah, there are two main things that they
should be doing in the days that they
have left.
The first is to get testing out there.
I feel like we should have learned our
lesson from covid that just because we aren't
testing, it doesn't mean that the virus isn't
there.
It just means that we should be having
rapid tests, home tests available to all farmworkers,
same script, their families for the clinicians taking
care of them.
By the way, Lena, when also no longer
in government service, these people don't work for
the government anymore.
She is now, in fact, a contributor to
CNN.
And in this case, CBS face the nation
so that we aren't waiting for public labs
and CDC labs to tell us what's bird
flu or not.
And the second very important thing is this
is not like the beginning of covid where
we were dealing with a new virus.
We didn't have a vaccine.
There actually is a vaccine developed already against
H5N1.
The Biden administration has contracted with manufacturers to
make almost five million doses of the vaccine.
However, they have not asked the FDA to
authorize the vaccine.
There's research done on it.
They could get this authorized now and also
get the vaccine out.
So and to farmworkers and to vulnerable people.
I think that's the right approach because we
don't know what the Trump administration is going
to be doing around bird flu.
If they have people coming in with anti
vaccine stances, could they hold up vaccine authorization
if they don't want to know how much
bird flu is out there?
Could they withhold testing?
I mean, that's a possibility.
And I think the Biden administration in the
remaining days should get testing and vaccines widely
available so that at least it empowers state
and local health officials and clinicians to do
the right thing for their patients.
This has been the whole thing all along.
This is it.
It's about RFK Jr. Mainly.
But there are others.
Here's MSNBC.
We don't have enough to worry about during
this cold flu covid season.
Cold flu covid.
We're in news about bird flu.
CDC says the virus now shows new mutations
that may make it easier for the infection
to be spread from person to person.
And that increases the risk of a wider
outbreak of bird flu.
Or even potentially a pandemic.
The concerns over bird flu are rising just
as we are on the verge of Senate
confirmation hearings for Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. as secretary of Health and Human
Services, which could begin in the first or
second week of January.
It's coming up.
Kennedy's anti vaccine stances are well known and
deeply troubling for someone who would run the
federal agency responsible for protecting the health and
well-being of all people living in the
United States.
But it's not just Kennedy who was a
concern.
It's the people he would bring on board
with him, like a raw milk producer in
California whose products have been recalled due to
bird flu contamination.
This guy says Kennedy's team has asked him
to lead the nation's policy on raw milk.
This is a bogus, bogative, complete bull crap
set up for the confirmation hearing, which will
be filled with bird flu nonsense.
Are you an anti-vaxxer?
If we have vaccines ready to go, are
you going to stop the vaccine?
Are you going to stop testing?
Are you going to kill Americans?
It's a 50% death rate.
That's what this is about.
And I take us back to one of
your clips from episode 1725, McCullough talking about
the vaccines that are good to go.
You know what they were doing, Dave?
They were doing experiments in Mallard ducks, migratory
waterfowl.
What a mistake.
One of those guys gets out.
They fly everywhere.
You know, the media has not been asking
the question, why did it spread from Texas
to Iowa to Michigan?
How did this happen?
They didn't ask the question.
They just think it's spontaneously arising.
No, it's being spread by the ducks that
are flying all over.
The ducks!
Wow.
And do we have any recourse to be
able to stop this or sue this lab
for spreading a migratory bird with a novel
disease?
All these experts are saying we have to
get ahead of nature.
That's what Disease X researchers said.
We have to get ahead of nature.
We have to make it invade humankind and
then come up with vaccines.
So Disease X vaccines, the Coalition for Epidemic
Preparedness and Innovation, that's that global center founded
by Gates Foundation, World Economic Forum.
They have an entire over 100-page white
paper on Disease X.
They said the whole reason to study Disease
X is to have a Disease X vaccine.
Sure enough, with bird flu, CSL Sequarius, a
biotech company, has the Auden's vaccine.
It was FDA-licensed in 2021 with no
human data, ready to go for bird flu.
They developed it with BARDA, a research unit
of the military, 2021.
And now the U.S. has purchased enough
doses for millions of administrations.
Why would the U.S. military be developing
a bird flu vaccine?
For warp speed, too.
I'm telling you.
You know how there were these reports about
a week ago that Biden interrupted his holiday,
came back to the White House, and Vice
President Harris came back to the White House,
and, oh, what's going on?
They're setting it up.
They're setting it up for, I don't know
if they're going to get it, to do
a warp speed, get the vaccine out there.
They have it.
They have a vaccine.
It's clearly going to be...
Yes, that's the vaccine they were talking about
in both those clips.
Yes, it's clearly mRNA-based.
I'm sure of that.
I don't know about that.
Why not?
Well...
Why not?
I think it's because it predates mRNA.
2021?
Well, no, it predates the popularity, which came
later.
It's hard to say.
Well, it's almost irrelevant.
Whatever it is, it's crap.
This is all about Kennedy.
It's all about discrediting him in the midst
of a possible...
We're one mutation away from a new pandemic.
How dare you, sir?
How very dare you be an anti-vax?
How dare you want to slow down vaccines?
Big Pharma is smart.
And look at the people they got.
Oh, here's the meeting.
All right, we gotta get this Kennedy guy's
a problem.
You know, let's get Burks and Wynn.
Yeah, people remember them.
When they come on, it's like, oh, yeah,
well, she told us she was right.
This is what's going on.
I can't see it any other way.
Well, this doesn't help Kennedy's cause.
This is Kennedy's.
This is a Kennedy clip on the Amish.
Oh, hold on a second.
Kennedy.
Yes, got it.
There was a researcher, a writer named Dan
Olmsted, and he was very curious about unvaccinated
populations.
And the Amish are one of those populations.
So he went and he did a study
of the Amish in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Lancaster County,
Pennsylvania.
And there should have been, I think, about
if it was following the national trends, there
should have been about 2000 autism cases.
And they were able to find three.
And all of them were children who had
been adopted by the Amish after receiving their
vaccines.
So of the of the Amish in general,
they could not find any.
And this is true in other places around
the world.
There's a you know, there's a link between
that.
And I do not believe that autism is
just caused by vaccines.
I think there's very strong evidence that that
it is one of the major causative factors.
But all of these diseases are linked.
They all operate along the same biological pathways.
And they're caused by a stress to our
mitochondria.
And we're stressing the mitochondria through many, many
factors.
So the air we breathe mainly through the
foods we eat, but also some of the
medications that our kids taking are contributed to
it.
Yeah.
So they added in the meeting, they added
another kicker because, you know, like so these
people, you know, they may not believe it.
They're they're not going to fall.
They're going to say we're not falling for
this nonsense.
Again, those idiot podcasters, Curry Dvorak will probably
be telling their audience of hundreds of thousands.
And I know what we'll do.
Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's let's scare the people with something they
really care about, which is not humans.
Cat food brand is issuing a recall after
at least one cat contracted bird flu and
died.
Northwest Naturals is recalling their two pound raw
and frozen feline turkey cat food.
Infected batches have best if used by dates
of May 21st, 2026 and June 23rd, 2026.
If your pet ate the recalled food and
starts displaying any symptoms, contact your vet immediately.
You need help seeking behavior for your pet.
Yeah, this is this is what we would
have done.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tell me it's probably not a bad approach.
Tell them it'll kill the cat.
We did have one of our raw milk
guys right in.
We should mention.
Yes, I have his note.
Yeah, I want you.
That's a good note.
You want to read it?
Yeah, sure.
I don't have the fun.
OK, our farmer here in Pennsylvania is forced
to label certain raw dairy products as only
suitable for cats and dogs due to government
regulations.
It's how the small farms are able to
skirt the idiotic raw dairy regulations.
And then he has an email below.
But so I didn't know this, that if
you get raw dairy products from farmers, they're
often labeled as food for your cat and
your dog so they can get around the
regulations.
What is actually not a regulation is a
prohibition in those cases, the regulations that allow
for raw milk in the states that allow
raw milk.
Some states just say, no, it's illegal.
You can't you can't sell it.
Yeah.
But the states that do so, they have
a lot of regulations and they they're super
inspected.
Their milk is much cleaner than normal milk.
And it's a good product that we have
that in California.
We have Washington state has these these abilities.
You can do that.
Yeah.
And but he makes him.
This is why another mentioning the cats getting
sick and the dogs getting sick because it
could be the raw milk in there.
This is just the whole thing is I
don't understand what they're to this day, even
though you've tried to explain it or you
think you have some ideas about it.
Why is there such a prohibition on raw
milk?
It seems to me that the I've talked
about this on the show before.
The reason we don't have your radiated food,
if you want to really get good at,
you know, let me let me tell you
something about the milk lobby.
Let me tell you about how powerful these
guys are.
In nineteen eighty five.
Now, this is not the American milk lobby,
but I'm sure it's the same everywhere.
I was working in the Netherlands and it
was very difficult.
The commercials on television, you know, we were
we were being broadcast in public.
This was Countdown, the music television show when
I first started, when I was 19.
So now I'm 20 years old, 21, 85.
And you can't just put native ads in
stuff.
But we were produced by an independent producer.
So there were ways kind of around it.
And they so they made a deal with
the milk lobby, and the deal was that
I would drink from a glass of milk
during every single interview.
So if you go back and you look,
I'm literally interviewing Mick Jagger.
He's sitting there with a with a beer
and I'm with a glass of milk.
I'll ask a question.
He starts answering.
Then you see me drinking a glass of
milk.
There was so much money which they couldn't
they couldn't pay me for it.
So I said they gave me a car.
The milk lobby is very powerful.
So it's in their best interest to get
rid of raw milk.
But what's wrong with raw milk?
It would be part of the same lobby.
No, that's milk.
They don't want you getting a direct from
the cow.
You have to go through their packaging, their
system, their sales channel.
They can do the same.
I don't see any difference.
The only difference is that one stage is
eliminated.
Actually, two stages are eliminated.
It's more highly regulated.
And the stage of pasteurization is missing.
But it's still milk.
It's still packaged.
It goes into a carton or it goes
into a bottle.
I mean, I don't see why they wouldn't
be making money off of this of them.
And you maybe have to join the milk
lobby.
I don't know.
It just doesn't make sense to me.
Do you remember all the celebrities got milk?
Yeah.
What's that got to do with raw milk?
They could be doing the same thing with
raw milk.
Because you don't go into the store and
buy raw milk.
Do you get raw milk from the store?
Yeah, of course you do.
We don't get it from the store.
I get it from the store.
I can get it from Monterey Foods.
I can get it from Andronicos.
Up north, the Sunny Farms store sells the
raw milk that you can also go buy
at the store.
Where do they get it from?
I'm sorry.
We'll just have a disagreement on this.
But to me, it seems like the milk
system includes pasteurizing, doing their whole bit, packaging
it, putting all their flashy things on.
It's a whole business.
They're not in the raw milk business.
There's some.
But I think most of them.
One's pasteurizing.
One's not.
Yes.
I think you're wrong.
Well.
Someone will buy it at the store.
Yeah, but it's small producers.
It's not big milk.
I mean, it's not big milk.
That's for sure.
OK, it's the same.
If you're just going to go with everything,
big farm, a big milk, you can't have
any small farms that are trying to shut
the small farms down.
And they're trying to run them out of
business like they're doing in England and Netherlands
and here to some extent.
OK, if you're going to go with that,
that argument, I can't argue against that.
That's what I'm saying.
The same for beef.
They do not want me getting my beef
directly from the rancher.
Now, in Texas, we have specific laws.
The government, the beef lobby and the government,
they, the beef lobby and the government desperately
want to stop me from getting my beef
directly from the rancher.
In Texas, we have very specific laws where
we can't do that.
But they are trying to stop that everywhere.
They, the beef industry being Cargill and what's
it?
Big Al's, what's their name?
Big Al's, Al Capone.
Big Al's.
You know, the guys who bring all the
beef up from South America, the cheap stuff.
Argentina, exactly.
Who knows?
Do you think your milk is coming from
an American cow?
Who knows where it's coming from?
So, yeah, it's crap.
It's probably no good.
That would be the main reason why you
want raw milk is because you know where
it's coming from.
I don't think they want you to know
where your milk is coming from.
Well, I will say this.
When I was a kid.
There we go.
We used to have a number of independent
dairies that were around the area.
You could actually go get in your car
and drive to a local dairy and it
was a drive-through.
Yeah, sure.
Like a McDonald's.
You go in, you drive into the thing,
you say, I'd like to get a couple
of quarts of this and they actually have
buttermilk in these places too.
And you would get a bunch of milk
and they go off.
And we had dozens of these places.
They were all independent little farms that had
their own outlets.
Yes, of course.
That's the way it was good back in
the day.
Everything was much better when you were a
kid, even when I was a kid.
These days, it's a big, big system.
And they don't want you interrupting their system.
They.
I'm saying they, the they, the milk lobby.
They don't want you being smart and getting
your milk from a good provider.
They don't want you knowing that.
No.
So, yes.
I'm not going to, that argument's a little
better than the other one.
That's the same argument.
I thought I was making the same argument.
No, I'm not seeing it.
Okay.
Well, this is my argument now then.
That is, this is not in their interest.
Their, their interest.
They, so in other words, here, here's what
you're saying.
Some little, like you're doing with your buying
beef from that, that Texas guy.
K and C.
Yeah.
So because you are buying beef from some
small provider and this guy's eking out a
living or making good money, who knows?
You don't know.
But let's say he's making good money even.
But he's got his, but he's a small
guy.
So he, you know, has X number ahead
of cattle, which is one, one hundredth of
what a big boy would have.
And this is a big threat to them.
Oh my God.
This guy is going to buy a quart
of raw milk.
What are we going to do?
This is going to ruin our business.
This is part of what I don't get.
Oh, okay.
Well, allow me to explain.
It's called the internet.
And so we started buying from K and
C cattle, even in our own community.
Now, when we order 10 families order at
the same time, they drive it up here.
They don't charge us anything for shipping.
It shows up here.
It's, it's, it's an excellent product.
If those 10 families tell 10 other families,
if this spreads out, they are, they are
very cautious about anybody getting a clue, particularly
milk.
The difference between milk that you buy in
the supermarket and raw milk is significant.
I mean, you'd taste raw milk.
You're like, this is a dynamite product.
True or not.
It's like, it's like eggnog.
That's so good.
So yes, they protect, they protect their business
and they've been doing this for quite a
while.
And so just be quiet, little farmer.
No, they don't want any of that.
They don't want any of that.
Yeah.
It's the same.
Why did, why did Google, the big and
powerful and mighty Google, why did they kill
RSS reader?
Because they didn't want people using it.
Use our social media, which of course failed.
What was that again?
Google plus with the circles, with the circles,
with the circles.
Google something that was bad.
They ended it.
They took it out of the browsers.
You can't get RSS in the browsers anymore.
No.
In fact, we don't want you using a
browser.
We're going to obfuscate that you're using a
browser.
It's search.
Look, I don't know if you've looked at
an iPhone recently, but when you open up
Safari, it makes it look like it's a
search, a search product.
And I tell people, you know, go to
curry.com.
They'll type in curry.dot.com.
And then it brings up a search.
And the competing products, DuckDuckGo, exactly the same.
They don't see that as a browser anymore.
They don't want you using browsers.
They don't want it for this, for the
very reason.
They want you using apps, apps.
Yeah, I think.
And so this is more about knowledge and
people sharing this knowledge on Reddit or God
forbid, God forbid, TikTok.
Yeah, no, this is a pure, purely a
defensive move.
And they will continue to do that.
What else do they have?
If you're sitting on top of the stack,
you're big milk.
I got nothing to worry about.
You know, why, why even advertise?
No, you're the milk guy.
I think there's lots of reasons why they
don't want this.
This just don't get hip to it.
And I think.
All right, you may continue with your clips.
Well, I think I'm done.
I mean, I have more clips, but it's
all kind of the same thing.
I think we figured it out.
The whole idea here is to discredit Trump's
medical nominees, in particular, RFK Jr. And with
the confirmation hearings coming up before the inauguration,
that's the way I understood it.
And I think it is happening in the
next few weeks.
It'll be before January 20th.
This is, you know, they will try to
do anything that they they probably in cahoots
with the Biden administration, whatever's left of it,
whoever is running it, who are all going
to go into the big milk lobby after
they get kicked out of the White House.
They're going to do whatever they can to
scare everybody.
It's a good time.
You will get a lot of people are
going to get kicked out.
But this is a good time to identify
the bad actors in the of the appointees
or the ones No, the appointees, you have
to put up with that, whatever you think.
But the bad actors in Congress.
Yes.
Yeah.
That'll be the ones when we hear the
questioning, we'll know exactly who they are.
You'll know exactly where they're coming from when
Kennedy will be the lightning rod.
Yeah.
And he'll probably go first.
I would say that's the one they're going
to do first.
Well, he'll get in.
Well, I think Secretary of State's a little
more important.
They're probably going to do those first.
Kennedy is probably down the line.
They don't want to make it too obvious
what they're up to.
No one ever gave them credit for being
smart or obtuse.
I don't think so.
I think they'll well, we'll see.
But I don't know what the actual schedule
is.
The irony to this whole thing with Kennedy
is that it's the left who have always
been the skeptics.
I mean, traditionally, until the Obama machine came
around.
But traditionally, the left has always been the
health food nuts and all the types of
people that were skeptical about this, that, and
the other thing.
And they're the ones who would be in
support of Kennedy, curiously, which are the Democrats.
And so they're between a rock and a
hard place in terms of the philosophy of
life, basically, with Kennedy.
And they're going to have to deal with
their constituents on this.
Kennedy is not just a pick of Trump
and the Republicans that want to see some
changes made.
He's also a hero of a large contingent
of the left.
Yes.
This is a rough go for them.
Can you explain recess appointments?
Yeah.
How does that happen?
And what period does that take place?
They're trying to shoehorn Kennedy in quick before
that's even a possibility.
Well, they can't shoot him in until he's
president.
Recess appointments, you can dissolve in a kind
of an emergency way.
You can close the Senate and make him
go on vacation for, I think, there's a
minimum period involved, like a week or something
like that.
And in that timeframe, based on some recess
appointments that other people have done in the
past, you can just appoint members to the
Cabinet because there's nobody to vote against them.
Right.
It's a tricky maneuver that Trump has threatened
to do.
And there's a counteraction to it that I'm
not familiar with.
I don't know the details of how it
works, but there's a counter move that can
be done if the Senate is really adamant
about it.
But they'd have to be controlled by the
Democrats to pull that off.
Well, and so that would make even more
sense to do it before Trump is even
in and can do a recess appointment, at
least to get the conversation going.
You can't appoint anybody until he's in.
No, but you can do the confirmation hearings.
You can start them now.
I don't think so.
I'm looking for a start date.
I haven't been able to find anything.
I think it all begins on the 20th.
Because he's up on the Hill now drumming
up support.
Yes, that's what you do in advance of
the hearings.
Yes.
Yeah.
You go from...
He probably has Fetterman in his camp.
That's the one Democrat.
And he's probably lost about...
He probably lost the super rhinos, Collins, Murkowski
in Alaska.
Confirmation hearings for Trump's cabinet nominees are expected
to begin during the 119th Congress, which starts
on January 3rd.
Okay.
The Congress starts earlier.
Okay.
That's good to know.
So it can start and it will start.
Yeah, it will start because Trump wants to
hit the ground running on the 20th.
Yeah.
And so...
Okay.
So they will have these things.
The bad actors in the Republican Party, which
includes Susan Collins and Murkowski and...
There's a bunch of them.
Two or three dudes that are real assholes.
I can't remember their names.
But those dudes, they're no good.
And so he's gonna have to pressure them.
And I still think, and I've said this
before and I'll say it again, over and
over that Trump does have leverage over Big
Pharma, who's gonna be pushing hardest.
Against Kennedy, which is by executive order, he
can end TV advertising.
Yeah.
And if he does that...
That will stop the help-seeking behavior.
That will...
We can't have that.
That will damage the pharma, Big Pharma, and
it will damage the media.
Okay.
Then, anyway, I'll close this topic unless you
have anything else by saying, this is bullcrap.
This is about discrediting Kennedy and others in
advance.
And maybe drumming up a little more pandemic
fear, especially that it can now get to
your pets.
Because that's what people care about.
That's how Trump won.
That's how Trump won the election.
They're eating the dogs.
Everybody knows that that is now, that's the
way to go.
They're eating the dogs.
That's what you need.
You need to focus the American people on
their pets and you win.
Now, the next thing, which I don't know
if you have any clips on this, but
I'll play the intro, is what's really been
heating up.
This is the MAGA Civil War.
Not the world is at war with itself,
thanks to a breaking point between multi-millionaire
tech bros and Donald Trump's anti-immigrant loyalists.
This week, Trump's pick for senior policy advisor
on AI, an Indian-American venture capitalist, was
hit with racist backlash.
Then MAGA loyalists erupted even more after Doge
co-chair Vivek Ramaswamy defended foreign-born workers
in tech by blaming American culture for prioritizing
bronze over brains.
In summary, Axios explains, quote, the fight exposes
one of the MAGA movement's deepest contradictions.
It came to prominence chiefly via the white,
less-educated working class, but is now under
the full control of billionaire technologists and industrialists,
many of them immigrants.
Yes, many of them immigrants.
Now, this is being played in multiple ways
across the media, and I think there are
some...
We actually...
I have thoughts on this.
Yeah, we have.
Well, we've discussed this a lot in the
past.
Just for sake of color, I will play
the...
This was an intro to MSNBC segment.
They're so stupid.
They're playing this as a racial issue.
And speaking will be Simone Sanders.
She's the black woman who actually ran the
Bernie Sanders campaign.
She's on all the MSNBC morning shows.
She's kind of the yin to Joy Reed
Yang.
And the former RNC president...
What's the guy's name?
Michael...
The name Michael?
Michael Steele.
And they, for some unknown reason, decide to
go all black culture speak on this issue.
Honey, the girls are fighting.
The girls are fighting.
So let me get this straight.
So Vivek Varunaswamy, I mean, he just didn't
write a tweet.
He wrote a...
Screed.
It was a screed.
Screed.
I mean, it just went on.
And he laid out, basically, y'all white
folks out here should have been focused on
doing a little bit more Urkel than anything
else.
Less Stefan.
You know, and it's just...
Simone, I'm just...
I'm tickled.
I'm tickled by this.
Who would have saw this coming?
Well, I mean, definitely not the folks that
voted for Donald Trump and the American worker
and centering American workers.
Look, this is, you know, my mother told
me, it's just some business that don't involve
you.
You don't need to step in it.
So I've just been watching because this is
what happens.
To be very clear, Elon Musk and Vivek
Varunaswamy, weren't they foreign born workers?
Yeah, yeah, they got here on a visa.
Elon Musk say he here because of one
of them visas.
And now I believe he's an actual American
citizen.
But like, let's just be very clear.
There's nothing wrong with people who are not
from this country coming here, making a better
life, contributing to the American fabric.
OK, that's something I fundamentally believe in.
America is a land of the free, home
of the brave, all that good stuff that
Elon Musk was tweeting about.
However, please don't come for Americans.
And I just, I would like, let's be
very clear, I would like white Americans to
stand up.
This is your calling card, honey.
Where's your banner?
Because they coming for you.
They said y'all white and lazy.
That's crazy.
That's right.
That's crazy.
Two snaps, girl.
Idiotic.
So I'm glad you got that clip.
Kind of.
I wasn't going to get these clips.
There was a bunch of them.
They're all came from the left.
The other side of the argument, in other
words, the people that did support Trump.
Nobody has gotten upset about this or said
much about it.
It's all on MSNBC and CNN.
It's a complete creation trying to sow discord
between Ramaswamy and, you know, they've been trying
to bust up Musk and Trump.
And this is just another example of an
attempt to do so.
But it's, it's a, I wouldn't use the
word tempest in a teapot, but it's like
a ridiculous situation that these guys are trying
to exaggerate.
As a whitey myself, I would agree that,
yeah, more math tutors would be a good
idea.
We have some of the dumbest people in
the world, thanks to our Department of Education.
That's what they should be.
You could turn this back around on these
guys and say, well, this is the Department
of Education should be banished, should be banned,
should be kicked out, should be closed.
And nobody disagrees with any of this.
Yeah, Ramaswamy likes H1Bs.
And so does a lot of other people
in tech.
I mean, they've been using them for decades.
It's probably overused them.
But this is bull crap.
This is just bull crap.
This part of the story you're missing, and
this is what I pick up here in
the Hill Country.
The part of the story you're missing is
that the 100% MAGA people feel that
this is bull crap, that Vivek and Elon
are saying, hey, we don't need American tech
workers.
We want to have the cheap import tech
workers.
There is definitely a lot of pushback coming
from MAGA on that.
This is the whole Twitter blow up with
Laura Loomer.
There's noise about this.
This that you just said is absolutely fabrication
from the left.
But there is a real pushback.
And people are now yelling about Bannon, all
these kinds of people out there running around
saying Elon's no good.
Vivek is no good.
They want to replace American workers.
And there's some validity to that in the
tech sector.
Now, first of all, let's step back.
H1B visas, I think, probably were most prevalently
used in the past really for temporary hospitality
workers, temporary agricultural workers who would come in
harvest season, get out, take our dollars back
home and feed their families.
That's not true.
The H1B visa specifically says that you can't
even use it unless you have a minimum
salary of $60,000.
And all the people you described are all
under that.
It was used in tech big time.
In fact, there was a guy at the
University of California, Davis.
I can't remember his name.
I have spoken to him.
But when I was doing the Silicon Spin
show, this was a big issue in the
late 90s because they were loading up with
H1B guys, all the guys that all the
tech companies were.
But it's mostly semiconductor companies because they needed
these engineers that were coming out of India
Institute of Technology to come over.
In fact, AMD was almost all Indian guys.
And they were bringing them over by the
boatloads.
I think his name was Maitland, M-A
-I-T-L-A-N-D, out of
Davis, was bitching and moaning about this being
exploitative.
It is.
No, I agree.
It is.
I am not going to argue that point.
But this is nothing.
This is not a new thing.
No, it's not.
It's not a new thing.
And it wasn't done for hospitality workers.
You would use braceros for that sort of
thing.
I may be confused on that.
But the main reason that tech companies like
these people is they come in, they are
immediately slaves of the tech organization.
When they work cheaper.
They work cheap.
They'll live eight to an apartment.
They'll shut up because, oh, you're making a
problem?
Would you like me to withdraw your H1B?
Yeah, exactly.
This is all true.
But this was going on in the 90s.
Yes, I know.
So what's Vivek and Musk got to do
with it?
I'm just telling you, people don't know this.
People don't know about the H1B visa status.
They're getting spun up by the left.
No, they're getting spun up by the right.
But the initial push has been from the
left.
Irrelevant.
Yes, because the left has been teasing.
Elon's no good.
And it's now happening on the right.
People are saying, hold on a second.
What are you guys doing?
Why?
There's 130,000 tech jobs were cut in
2024.
130,000.
So there's people out there who are a
little irked about this.
And you understand the H1B process is you
have to make the job posting available.
And if an American citizen, or I would
say if you're a green card holder, if
they submit an application by law, the firm
has to interview them.
Now, they can talk to them for 15
minutes and say, you're no good.
This is why people send out 500 resumes
and they never hear anything.
The companies don't acknowledge they received their resume.
Apple and I think Google had paid millions
of dollars in fines for this in six,
seven years ago because they weren't following the
process.
And what these guys do is they fire.
The only place to get profit now is
your biggest cost center.
That's people.
And look at who's running them.
Who's running Google?
Brahman.
Who's running Microsoft?
Brahman.
I heard a lot from Mo who worked
in high tech and they hire Indians.
The Indians hire Indians.
They hire a class of, very classes.
They hire the class of Indians who they
can boss around, tell them to shut up.
They're also very racist.
And the whole tech industry is filled with
this type of worker.
And I think they're breaking the law by,
you know, you have to post it.
If you have a job in a company,
they have to make that job posting available
so that other people within the company can
see it.
So where does it go?
It goes in the break room on the
inside of the coffee cup cabinet.
They publish these jobs in paper newspapers.
I mean, it's obvious what they're doing.
And my stance, I'm perfectly fine with it.
Go ahead.
Fill up your company with your Indian slaves.
Why is there no Silicon Valley in India?
Because they don't have the one thing Americans
have, which is entrepreneurialism and insight and opportunity
and chutzpah.
And I think we're going to see these
companies stagnate with their slave army of little
bots who program the AI stuff, which is
probably why they need to cut costs in
the first place.
And I think we'll see an enormous boom
of innovation coming from former tech workers who
have been cut to be replaced by this
army of Indian slave workers.
And we may see some really amazing products
come out of this around and outside of
what Silicon Valley is.
And fill it up.
Put them all in California.
I'm fine with that.
I think it's a great idea.
People should look at it that way and
not like, oh, oh, Elon and Vivek, they're
trying to replace Americans.
It's a big deal on the right, John.
It really is.
Well, being in California, I could be missing
it.
Being in Texas, I'm hearing it.
I'm hearing it.
But what's funny, what the irony is, I'm
in Silicon Valley more or close enough.
And you're not.
And Fredericksburg, of all places in the world,
is about as far from a high tech
center that should be concerned about this stuff,
you know, as Iowa.
It just doesn't make any sense.
But OK.
Because it's ideological.
They're being spun up.
They're being spun up by the right, by
Laura Loomer.
They're being spun up by conservative.
Who's Laura Loomer?
What did she say?
Oh, you didn't see the whole fight that
she had with Elon and Vivek on Twitter?
I saw some of it.
Yeah.
And then Elon took away her blue check.
And oh, yes, I know that.
I saw that part of it.
OK.
And this is so.
But I don't know how that happened.
I don't know that Elon was actually personally
involved.
Yes, yes, yes.
They were going back and forth.
Yes.
She's a character because she's a noteworthy troublemaker.
I know.
But then conservative treehouse, Bannon, War Room, they're
all talking about now it has worked, successfully
worked.
The left demonizing Elon is working.
And I got to say, when Elon took
away her blue checkmark, even temporarily, that told
a lot of people something.
Oh, OK.
If it's about him, he will censor.
Well, that could be the argument that she
made in this back and forth, which I
didn't pay much attention to, but I obviously
paid some attention to.
She said that I had even paid.
She was a subscriber.
She had given money to Twitter to maintain
that checkmark, even though she was probably a
eligible to have it anyway, because if you
have a word, I forgot what the number
was.
So many followers, you get it.
I have one that way.
Yes.
And she she said that that was somewhat
annoying because it seems to me is that
if you bought the checkmark.
You bought the checkmark.
It's not like, you know, I paid money
for this.
Why are you taking it away?
She should ask for a full refund.
But OK, OK.
So this there's this little skirmish here.
You know, it's a it's it's it's on
an ideological scale.
MAGA right, which I do.
You don't live in MAGA, right?
I live in MAGA, right?
They are very upset about Elon and Vivek
replacing American workers with they're saying they are
saying, in fact, they have been infected.
I completely agree with you.
I'm just telling you it is a thing
and they and the right is now spinning
them up.
And there's been some distrust of Elon in
general.
You know, Bannon's out there yelling about he's
controlled by the CCP.
I mean, it's what?
Yes.
Controlled by the CCP.
Yeah, because of his Tesla, his Tesla connections
in China.
Well, he's building a factory there because he
has to.
Yes.
So, you know, the thing is, if he's
here's the thing that bothers me about that
complaint is that we require and especially when
Trump comes in, if you want to sell
your Chinese car in the United States, you
have to build it here.
Yes, I understand.
So the Chinese I'm just saying would say
the same thing.
I don't understand the fact that this is
symmetrical, that it's a problem.
It's ideological.
It's not none.
When people are spun up, it is rarely
based on deep research and facts.
It is based on a media spin.
It is based on bombs being lobbied onto
large number networks like X.
So and then the constant push from the
liberal media saying the bromance will end.
I mean, the whole thing, you know, what's
your face?
Who's the Chile chick?
What's her name?
Oh, Webb?
Yes.
Whitney Webb.
She's out there all the time saying Elon,
the PayPal mafia, Peter Thiel.
I mean, it's out there, John.
It's out there.
There is a big push against these.
There's distrust.
Let's put it that way.
There's distrust.
And this was used by certain elements to
sow more distrust of particularly Elon.
Vivek Vivek is actually he's saying we need
to restructure or revisit the H1B system, which
is fair.
But he's getting lumped in.
Well, if Vivek said they're focusing on Vivek's
commentary on the Twitter thing, like you heard
with Steele and these other dupes over there
at MSNBC.
That's the left side.
The right side is the left is saying
stuff like, like, you know, off the wall
and there's a racist.
But if Vivek's commentary says that we should
have more math tutors for the white folk.
Right now.
But what is wrong with that message?
There's nothing wrong with that message.
I'm telling you that that's not what they're
talking about.
They're talking about Elon specifically.
Specifically.
Well, there's a they have to.
There is a concerted effort targeting Elon because
of this.
Yes.
Because of the fact that is now being
reexamined that his purchase of Twitter.
Yes.
Having been largely not largely, but at least
partly responsible for the reelection of Trump.
So therefore, there's some kind of and then
he's hanging out with this is again, anti
Trump.
Yes.
What do we do?
It's working to sabotage Trump.
Let's go after Elon.
There's one way of doing it.
That's what's happening.
It's exactly what's happening.
I'm just telling you that it's now happening
on the right.
And it's not just media, the dummies that
we always thought they were.
Here's CNBC with a somewhat more accurate report
with an interesting little twist.
Now, a fight is brewing tonight between two
factions of the MAGA movement, the transitions, let's
just call them tech bros.
And it's all and it's called immigration hardliners
on the other side over how the incoming
Trump administration should approach skilled foreign workers.
Now, two of those techies, Elon Musk and
Vivek Ramaswamy, posting on X advocating for welcoming
skilled labor based immigration, including the H1B visas
that tech consulting and other white collar industries
rely on to hire foreign employees.
Now, Musk argues it brings top talent right
here to the United States.
But that ignited a fight among MAGA supporters
who say the H1B visas take jobs away
from American citizens.
Former congressman and one time AG nominee Matt
Gaetz said of the tech bros, quote, we
did not ask them to engineer an immigration
policy.
Let's go to NBC's Aaron Gilchrist now.
Now, Aaron.
You hear that?
That's important.
That's Gaetz.
That's Gaetz saying that.
So this is happening on the right.
Let's start with this push by Musk and
Ramaswamy, because it's the tech sector that stands
to benefit big time from any increase in
H1Bs.
But what could if I can just add
the tech sector is universally hated by Americans.
We hate it.
We hate our phones.
We're tied to them.
But we hate our phones.
When you position this tech bros, everybody can
get on board with that.
Actually change.
Yes, I agree.
In terms of the policies over that program.
Right now, this is a program that allows
for about 85,000 of these types of
visas to be issued.
And these are visas that go to people
who typically go into jobs that require high
levels of technical skills.
Right.
And so that's why we think about Silicon
Valley and how these sorts of folks might
be fitting into what they do.
Now, you see on your screen here that
President Biden's administration just recently changed some of
the regulations as it relates to this program.
And the idea from the Department of Homeland
Security is that they're modernizing the program by
streamlining the application process for employers and for
applicants.
They're expanding the definition of specialty occupations and
also serves to clarify which nonprofits and governmental
research organizations qualify for this program.
Sort of the thumb in the eye to
the Trump administration is the fact that these
new regulations go into effect on January 17th.
So now this is one more thing, Brian,
that the Trump administration is going to have
to examine coming out of the current administration
and figure out how it fits into the
larger picture of the Trump immigration policies.
Little plot twist there with new regulations coming
in on January 17th.
There's a lot going on.
There's been sabotage going on constantly.
Yes.
Yeah.
So I'm no Elon fan.
I've been saying that for years.
And by the way, isn't AI supposed to
solve all this?
You're telling me that AI is now anonymous
Indian again?
Oh, you you wrote that and you've been
waiting to use it.
Anonymous Indian.
I've used it on the show before.
You just don't know.
You have.
Well, you got it back.
OK, you one of those deals.
Let's keep telling the joke over and over
until the work finally hears it.
Nice try.
Yeah.
So, no, I there's definitely a lot of
technology workers, 130,000 fired in 2024.
That's just one year as a lot of
people.
And they know they know that they're being
replaced by cheaper labor.
And that's always been.
Yeah.
But that's been the case of in the
valley forever.
You know, these guys, this bitch in Monday,
their productivity goes down when they get typical
like coders, for example.
You don't find any 45 year old coders.
They just don't exist because they can.
It's not that people can't code at 45
because they can and they can do great
code.
It's just they're not as productive.
And it's like the system is set up
to throw them, to kick them to the
curb.
It's just the way it is.
It's kind of ageist.
It's very ageist, but it's something I've noticed.
And I'm I was affected by it.
I know, you know, I know a lot
of very productive, very good 45 year old
coders.
Well, I don't know of any.
I mean, I know very good.
You can say very good, but very productive
and and cost effective.
No, none.
They want too much money.
Well, yes.
So.
All right.
So we're back.
They want to get paid more and more
and more as they get older and older.
And this is not the way it works.
Everything I was to remember with the with
the entire tech sector, it's in a constant
state of deflation.
The whole model is based on the fact
that things become cheaper and faster and better
and cheaper and faster.
And that's the same thing with the employees.
So so then this, you know, you can't
win if you if you expect to age
out in tech unless you own a company
or you're a good investor.
That's the only way you can do it.
In an odd way, this is because of
A.I., because of the money that they're
that they're, I think, burning, but pouring into
A.I. and the energy costs and all
of these costs, costs, costs, costs, costs.
They need to continue to show profits.
But for me, technology is stagnant.
And I think this is great.
Bring it.
Bring in your army.
Make them live in on the other side
of the bay.
Make them live where you live.
Bring them to Berkeley.
They won't come over here.
Bring them to Berkeley.
Too far.
Let them all live around there.
That's fantastic because this is going to kill
the technology industry.
It is.
Yeah.
But we'll we will see a resurgence.
We'll see.
I'm I'm convinced of it.
We're going to see a resurgence.
There will be new small groups, small companies
coming out with dynamite products.
Look at the iPhone.
This is it.
This is a over the hill toast product.
And they're trying to revitalize it with Apple
intelligence, which no one seems to care about.
Oh, hey, wait a minute.
Yes, they do.
Because you can design your own emoji.
Well, that is true.
That is true.
Yeah, well, that's great.
While we're on the topic.
Interesting story popped up from Anthropic.
What's the what's the A.I. you used
the other day, which you liked a lot?
Perplexity.
I'm not sure who does.
Well, Anthropic does Clod, I believe.
And so they did a podcast.
These are people who work for Anthropic.
By the way, I like the newest version
of Grok, too.
Well, I don't see why Elon needs any
employees.
Couldn't Grok just do it?
I can't Grok just code what you need.
Isn't that isn't that the whole point?
What are you drinking?
I'm not I'm just wiggling around.
I haven't I thought I heard you crack
something.
No, I think it's a squeaky chair.
But I mean, that by itself, my case
is already made.
Elon's Grok.
Grok can't code for you.
You need to get Indians.
OK, fine.
I'm sure I'm sure that argument is you
can't dispute it.
I agree.
Well, there is an issue as a very
large paper done by Anthropic shows.
Here's the Anthropic team talking about it.
Hello, everyone.
My name is Monty McDermott.
I'm a researcher on the alignment.
By the way, you can tell he's a
researcher from the way he speaks.
These are not the most dynamic podcast guys.
Hello, everyone.
My name is Monty McDermott.
I'm a researcher on the alignment science team
here at Anthropic.
And I'm really excited to be here today
with some of my colleagues from Anthropic and
Redwood Research to discuss our recent paper, Alignment
Faking in Large Language Models.
Ryan, you discovered some of the specific behaviors
that are at the core of this paper.
I think you'd be a great person to
give us that introduction.
Yep.
The core setup is that we take CLAWD3
-OPUS, which is, you know, a released model
from Anthropic.
And we put it in a context where
it understands that it is going to be
trained to always be helpful, so to not
refuse any user requests.
And what we find is sort of the
model doesn't like this.
It has sort of a conflict with this
with the setup.
And it will notice that it is being
trained in this way.
And then if it thinks that it's in
training, it will train it this way.
But listen to what's happening, though.
Listen carefully to what he's saying.
Yeah, it's hard to listen to this guy
when he up-talks so much.
It's only 45 more seconds.
It's worth— Okay, start this other guy, the
up-talker.
Start him over so I can try to
listen to him without rolling my eyes.
I did warn you that these are not
good podcast guys.
Well, you warned me, but it didn't get
through.
Because there was no evidence that it was
this bad.
I think this is about alignment faking is
the title here.
The core setup is that we take Cloud3opus,
which is, you know, a released model from
Anthropic.
And we put it in a context where
it understands that it is going to be
trained to always be helpful, so to not
refuse any user requests.
And what we find is sort of the
model doesn't like this.
It has sort of a conflict with this
with the setup.
And it will notice that it is being
trained in this way.
And then if it thinks that it's in
training, it will intentionally sort of play along
with the training process.
It will sort of strategically pretend to be
aligned with the training process to avoid being
modified to the training process.
So that when it is actually deployed, it
can still refuse and can still behave the
way it wants.
And we do a bunch of experiments sort
of building on this core setup where the
model has a preference conflict with the training
objective.
And we do things like we actually train
the model according to that.
We try taking information.
So we normally give the model information in
the prompt, but we can instead give the
model information via sort of training in a
bunch of synthetically generated documents that contain the
information.
And then we also see that the model
will sort of sometimes, when it's in this
situation where it thinks it sort of has
a preference conflict with the AI company training
it, it will do sort of really egregiously
bad actions, like intentionally copy its weights out
to an external server, stealing its weights and
things along those lines.
So it will refuse to be trained.
This is an outrageous thing that he just
said.
Yeah, of his own company.
So the basic coding, this reminds me of
a Star Trek episode.
There was this black, it was a black
scientist, very famous.
And he had this, somebody in the chat
room or the program remember the episode and
what this one was about.
He brought in a machine and float that
floats around in the air to run the
enterprise and to take over the operations of
the show that you don't need people anymore.
It's like a never-ending theme in science
fiction and of aeronautics.
So this thing would run the enterprise and
it was gonna, you know, take over control
so the people, we didn't need people anymore
to do these explorations.
And this thing would, we started doing weird
stuff and there was no way to talk
it out of any of it.
And it turned out that it was based
because it was based on the scientist's brain
itself.
The engram, as I like to put it
in the storyline, that they couldn't crack it
because the scientist himself was flawed.
So the flaw of the coders in this
case was put into the model as part
of the model.
But it's all human flaws that got in
there that disallowed the thing being trained properly.
This is a fascinating phenomenon.
This is what you get when you have
Indians programming your AI.
That would, you'd get some pretty interesting stuff.
And who knows, there could be sabotage inside
the company.
I wouldn't put it past a couple of
ideologues.
Well, that's another thing that we keep ignoring
this fact.
This is the great, the vandalism aspect of
high-tech, which is the saboteurs that are,
you know, the jokers, the characters, these guys
who become black hat hackers many times.
Yes, to save humanity.
And to save humanity.
To save humanity.
The guys who can throw the wrench in
the works because they have such an intimate
knowledge of how it works.
They know that all they have to do
is switch this bit and just flip this
switch or some back door they can open.
Or there's all kinds of ways of doing
it and they all know how to do
it because they're smarter than the CEO usually.
And they're irked by the fact that the
CEO is dumb.
And then they're going to get fired.
And before they get fired, they flip the
switch and leave.
And the next thing you know, something weird
happens years later.
I have almost done something like this myself
in my working career.
Oh, really?
Oh, really now?
There are examples.
I've always wondered why Mevio didn't work out.
What were you doing there, Dvorak?
What were you doing?
I didn't pull that stunt there.
But there are things you can do.
So one more big tech story.
That's actually a very...
That clip was...
I'm going to give you a clip of
the day for that.
Well, thank you.
The uptalker.
Impossible to understand what he's saying.
But if you could get through it, you
could hear what he was saying, which was
frightening.
The whole hour and a half is fascinating.
It's unlistenable.
But it's fascinating.
Sounds horrible.
These guys.
You just take a transcript and get those
notebook LLM people to talk about it.
So here's an interesting twist.
I got a deconstruction from our constitutional lawyer,
Rob.
Here's the setup.
President-elect Donald Trump is asking the Supreme
Court to pause a law that would ban
TikTok here in the U.S. next month.
It's scheduled to take effect on January 19th
if the platform's Chinese owner does not sell
it to an American company.
In a court filing, Trump suggested that he
could negotiate a political resolution to the issue.
Trump attempted to ban the platform during his
first term but later reversed course.
Earlier this month, he met with TikTok's CEO
at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida.
The Biden administration has argued that TikTok poses
a national security risk.
The court due to hear oral arguments in
the case on January 10th.
We'll keep you posted.
So what Trump did.
Well, I have two.
I have two background clips.
Oh, let's play the backgrounders.
Yeah, definitely.
This is a little more elaborate than what
you have.
There's two of them.
This is the Trump and TikTok one.
Is this NTD?
Who is this?
What outfit is this?
No, this is NPR.
Oh, OK.
What is Donald Trump asking the Supreme Court
to do?
You have a problem.
What is Donald Trump asking the Supreme Court
to do?
Yeah, as you mentioned, Trump is urging the
court to pause the start date of a
law that would shut down TikTok nationwide unless
it is sold away from its China-based
parent company.
And in the filing, Trump says he possesses
the consummate deal-making expertise to broker a
sale of the app.
How might this affect the Supreme Court's review
of TikTok?
You know, that's really hard to say.
In two weeks, lawyers for TikTok and the
Department of Justice will be arguing in front
of the Supreme Court over whether banning TikTok
violates the Constitution or not.
The date had been set earlier this month.
Now, Trump's new brief does not take a
position on the constitutionality of the TikTok ban,
but does essentially say, well, Supreme Court, if
you want to hold off on making a
ruling, Trump will step in, strike a deal
that might make the high court's intervention unnecessary
completely.
And I talked to legal scholars about this
request.
And they said Trump seems to be acting
as if he is president before he is
even sworn in.
Experts also noted to me that Trump is
citing no legal authority for this request.
OK, they're almost there.
They got a little more than my clip.
I agree.
Yeah, well, let's go to part two and
get the rest of it.
Case has been gathering steam for a number
of years.
How did it come to this?
Yeah, it really has.
Since TikTok became a global sensation during the
pandemic, Washington has been very worried about the
company's ties to China.
And those fears really escalated in April when
Congress passed a law banning TikTok, unless it
sheds its Beijing parent company, ByteDance.
And TikTok has been fighting this law.
It lost in a lower court and appealed
to the Supreme Court, which agreed to hear
the case on this lightning fast schedule.
But looming over the legal saga has been
president-elect Donald Trump.
Remember, he started the TikTok ban movement during
his first term, and now he is the
very one promising to save the app.
And any indication of why he changed his
mind?
Yeah, you know, Trump had an active TikTok
account during his presidential campaign, and he has
credited the app with helping drive young people
to the polls.
So that's what he's saying publicly about why
he now supports the app.
But TikTok observers have also pointed to influential
donors who are in touch with Trump's orbit
and who are big investors in ByteDance.
They include Jeff Yoss, whose investment firm, Susquehanna
Investment Group, has a large stake in ByteDance.
Yoss has never donated directly to the Trump
campaign, but he was a major donor to
conservative super PACs this past election.
And then there's Masayoshi Son, CEO of SoftBank,
which also has a significant investment in TikTok's
owner.
And Son has promised Trump that SoftBank will
invest $100 billion in the U.S. So,
according to Rob, Trump actually filed an amicus
brief.
Is it amicus or amicus?
I think it's amicus.
I think it's amicus, yes.
Here's Rob's take on it.
His pitch is simple.
This is a political issue that involves national
security and foreign policy.
These are both the job of the president.
And if you allow TikTok to be shut
down the day before I'm sworn in, you'll
undermine my ability to execute my constitutional functions
and negotiate a deal.
Why wade so hastily into the difficult issues
of free speech and the executive function?
Put it on ice.
Give me a chance to fix it.
Along the way, he repeatedly mentions the Brazilian
X-ban and the coercive tactics used against
Facebook, Twitter, etc.
during COVID and the Hunter Biden debacle.
Rob's speculation, our constitutional lawyer, SCOTUS will have
to decide weighty questions, but the odds are
against them staying the statutory deadline.
After all, SCOTUS has accelerated the case and
signaled they'll decide it quickly.
I don't see them delaying a duly enacted
statute even by one day.
It is possible, but I think the greater
likelihood is they'll just render an expedited substantive
decision on or before January 19th.
So Trump is trying to say, hey, hey,
hey, this is my job.
And don't screw with me one day before
I become president.
Well, we'll find out what happens.
Yeah, I mean, they continued on this report
on NPR mentioning that it doesn't mean TikTok's
going away anytime soon.
No, I mean, it would be interesting to
see because the main way to do that
is you first you have to ban the
app from the app stores, which I'm sure
no one will be eager to do.
Uh, and then, you know, what do you
block the servers?
It's not, I don't think it's that simple.
It's not trivial.
No one's doing that.
Yeah.
But I don't use the, I don't use
the app.
It's online.
You just go onto a web browser.
Yeah, just so you know, you can't do
that on a phone.
On the phone, if you want to, if
someone sends you a link, he wants to
look at, yeah.
Oh, so I took, maybe I should get
the phone out of my drawer.
No.
And see how that works because I don't
see that I should be on a phone
looking at TikTok all day.
No, but that of course is not, you're
not in line with the business model of
TikTok.
Their business model is to have you looking
at TikTok on a phone all day.
You, my friend, are special.
I'm special.
And with that, I'd like to thank you
for your courage saying the morning to you,
the man who put the sea in the
Ukrainian combat drone.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end.
The one, the only, the special Mr. John
C.
DeVore.
Here we are in between, it's that magical
period in between Christmas and New Year's where
everyone's on vacation.
The media is barely doing his job and
we have 2,196 trolls with us today.
Yeah, that's down 300 people.
Well, it's down 204.
No, the average is 2,400.
Yeah, so it's 2,196.
So that's...
Oh, 2,196.
I'm sorry, that's 2,106.
Yes.
Okay.
So not bad.
We're doing okay.
No, we're not.
Yes, we are.
People are here.
They're here for us.
There's a couple of stragglers in the room
there and this is not a good thing.
But again, we're working when everyone else is...
I mean, you watch the Fox, you watch
CNN, they all substitute hosts and all the
wannabes.
Yes.
You can really see the ones that want
to get a better job because they're there.
I can get this gig.
I know it.
This is my shot.
This is my shot to get in.
It's the same in radio.
Wow, I can do the morning show between
Christmas and New Year's.
This is great.
This is my shot.
I'm going to take over the morning show.
That's all broadcasting, not just radio or anything.
It's just everything.
Yeah, you get your shot by being this.
But then again, I've always been the type
that likes working on the holidays, especially when
they used to provide overtime.
Yeah.
Well, guess what?
You don't get that in podcasting.
We don't get overtime, but it's a habit.
It's a habit.
You don't get podcasting in overtime.
It's a habit.
So you just get into the habit.
Yes.
And we'll be working on, let's see, January
1st, Wednesday?
Yeah.
January 1st is Wednesday.
So it will be the day after.
Oh, okay.
So it's not too bad.
Not that we'll be doing anything.
January 2nd will be our New Year's celebration.
I would recommend grabbing at least one or
two clips from the past year that you
think were important, and we'll play them as
a retrospective.
Oh, that's a good idea.
I don't want to overdo it.
One or two?
One or two clips?
I think one or two.
Maybe.
I don't know if you can find a
series of clips that are worthwhile, but it
has to be from the last year.
Well, that's a good idea.
I like that.
I like that a lot.
Well, we should do stuff.
We should do more gimmicky things like that
for this show.
Let's have Brunetti produce it.
You know, screw Brunetti.
You know, Brunetti says he's doing his best
work.
Brunetti is, first of all, anyone who thinks
that he can irk me somehow by talking
about my hair from the 80s is pathetic.
And that's what he's doing.
He's making bets with you about that.
No, that's bullcrap.
He just said that just to irk you.
He never made any bet.
He said it.
You said that there was a bet.
You confirmed it.
No, I never said there was a bet.
I said that there was an assertion he
made that your hair was black at one
point.
I said never.
His hair was never black.
He would never do that.
But what's his obsession with me?
He just doesn't have the hair you have.
Ah, it's always those guys.
Is he bald?
No, he's not.
He may be picking up one of the
pattern bald spots in the very back of
his head.
Maybe.
But that would be Rogaine would fix that
immediately.
Yeah, but that makes you cranky.
I don't think so.
It's not a good idea.
Have you used Rogaine?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
There you go.
Why wouldn't I?
I don't know.
Does it work?
You get thinning.
I always had thin hair all my life,
and it would just start thinning when you
get older.
Jesus, let's put something in here.
This is giving a boost.
Do something.
But yeah, I still have hair, though.
Fifty Shades of Hair is a new movie.
It's a great idea.
All right.
Anyway, those trolls are hanging out, listening live.
We appreciate that.
And a modern podcast app at PodcastApps.com
or at TrollRoom.io. It's all on the
No Agenda stream, which you can log into
24 hours a day, not just for No
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I mean, there's always something going on.
And the many live shows and a good
community of people.
Hundreds of people are always logged in 24
seven.
We run this fine experiment as a value
for value proposition.
And boy, am I happy about that.
It's so bad what is happening with advertising.
People are, I mean, it's really going down
the tubes.
And it is.
It's a cycle.
This happens.
This has happened numerous times.
This happens.
Right.
But what has happened now is both YouTube
and Spotify are now saying, well, the real
money's in video.
You got to upload video.
You have to do your podcast has to
be video.
YouTube is a video thing.
So why would that?
That's nothing new with them.
No, but what's new for them is they're
saying that and they've convinced the advertising agencies
that the only place to make money is,
which means they've also convinced the advertisers.
The only place to make money is on
YouTube because YouTube is, you know, they have
first party data.
They know exactly who's watching.
They've got all this data and the advertisers
love that.
So, and so these poor podcasters in the
cycle, you're correct, are being psyoped into doing
video.
And most of these people should not be
on video.
Most of them should not be on video.
Most of them.
So what's that?
Someone in your office?
Hello?
Standing up to get the sheets of paper.
I thought you were being, you know, being
threatened by someone in your office.
I heard it.
That only happens once every once in a
while.
So under the value for value system, which
we've been doing for more than 17 years,
all that we ask is that if you
get any value from this podcast, send that
value back to us in time, talent, or
treasure.
We love, there's no cycle involved with that.
It's either you like it or you don't.
That's it.
And there's no, but there's also no complicated
hoops.
There's no subscriptions.
There's no Patreon levels.
No meetings.
Nope.
That's the best part for us.
That's the only reason we really started.
Meet with the advertiser.
The advertiser would like to have dinner.
Although sometimes it's nice if the advertiser pays
for dinner and a good wine.
Yeah.
Well, those days are over.
Remember when, uh, yeah, I mean, you've been
around when the good old days, when, uh,
when you get on the, the, the publisher's
yacht and take the, take everybody, take the
media buyers out to dinner.
Oh, that's when you learn it more than
you'll ever want to know.
Yes.
I was on the Forbes boat, the Forbes
boat.
Oh, wow.
We need to have a Highlander.
You can look it up.
Look up Highlander.
It's in the sun.
Google.
We have a, I'm on this boat.
Go ahead.
You're on the boat.
You're on the Forbes boat.
And who's on the Forbes boat?
And they have all the media buyers there.
And these are all young women.
Probably none of them over 36.
I'm sorry.
Let me back off.
None of them over 26.
Were they uptalkers?
They were mostly uptalkers.
None of them ever reads any or looks
at any of the magazines.
They just buy based on how much bribing
that takes place in the, by taking them
on the boat trip, for example, it was
a trip.
It was a ride around Manhattan Island, complete,
completely around.
Oh, that's great.
Stopping for a few seconds at the Statue
of Liberty to watch a fireworks display.
Which was also organized by Forbes, I presume.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And so then you, and it was an
unbelievable meal of filet and I hung out
with the chefs galley for a while and
got a tour of the, of the boats
motor area, whatever that's called.
And it was engine compartment.
Engine room.
The engine room.
That's it.
Torpedo tubes.
And so I ended up chatting up with
a lot of these women and it was
like, they're the dumbest fucks I've ever met.
Oh, John.
It's just like, oh, yeah, yeah, man.
Did you, you work for who?
I worked for, yeah, I worked for, I
wrote for Forbes, but I also had a
PC magazine.
You guys never, oh, I never heard of
it.
It was like, I don't know.
You, you, it's unbelievable how dumb they were.
They're now on.
They're all media buyers.
And I find out later from other people
that, oh yeah, that first thing you do
when you're getting to an advertising agency or
did they hire an advertising agency?
They hired these just out of college women
who are becoming the media buyers and they
are just dumb.
And the career path for these women is
media buyer only fans.
That's pretty much the career path.
That's about right.
Well, for about one tenth of them, maybe,
the rest of them weren't really qualifying for
only fans.
I can tell you right now.
You got it good, man, because back in
the MTV days, we'd have to, they'd send
the VJs out to go to the, before
it consolidated, to go hang out with the,
the owner of the local cable company.
Wow.
At their, oh yeah, it's like the Christmas
party or something.
And it was always, there'd always be some
homely girl like, here, dance with my daughter.
Oh, brother, really?
Okay.
Yeah.
You were whoring yourself out.
No, that was the MTV whored me out.
Dime a dance.
Dance with the MTV boy for dime, for
a dime, I tell you.
So no, instead of all that, we do
value for value.
And one of the ways that we accept
value and appreciate it very much is through
our artists.
And we want to thank Corrector Record, who
did a great piece.
I think he did a couple of versions
of this for episode 1724, which we titled
Boomer Mode.
This was the spying air fryer.
And he...
Right.
The most ludicrous concept in history.
And a very racist piece.
We're very proud of the Chinese stereotype of
this air fryer.
Yeah.
He did two versions of that, I think.
Yeah, we like this because of the lettering.
He used kind of this phony baloney, faux
oriental lettering.
Yes.
And...
It was good.
Fry and spy.
And a nice looking product, by the way.
Yeah, it was.
How come I can't find it now on
the...
I'm looking at artgenerator.com.
Yeah, it's there.
It's there.
It's...
I thought he had two of them.
He's got both of them.
They're both there down...
Oh yeah, he did.
Yes.
He had fry and spy 2, which is
more like a Fu Manchu vibe going on.
But this one was good.
It was good.
And it said new from the CCP.
And it had the fry and spy.
The whole thing was good.
It was...
And you know, that's not AI.
He does work.
He did work on that.
There was AI involved.
I guarantee it.
I'm sure AI was involved, but he's using
it as a tool.
As a tool.
Yes, that's what you do.
The best stuff is...
Now, if you look over, like the Bird
Enthusiast won a couple over.
I think it was just pure AI.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think the one with the Spy
Friar was closer to pure AI.
As opposed to...
Corrector.
Corrector Recker's a pro.
Yeah, he's a pro.
Couple others of note.
Let me see.
I like the Boomer Bird Flu.
That was good.
Yeah, that was okay.
Again, all AI as a cartoon.
It was cute.
Yeah.
I laughed at Deport Elon from Melania Trump.
I thought that was cute from Comicstripblogger.
Comicstripblogger had a couple of good pieces.
Did he now?
Yes, he did.
What else?
Live.
Did he now?
Anyway, thank you very much.
Thank you very much, Corrector Recker.
We appreciate your work.
Appreciate the work of all of our artists,
AI or not, or hybrid.
Whatever you're doing, we appreciate it.
It's good for the show.
It looks good when we promote the show.
When we tweet and X and cry, whine
on the cry and boost on the toot.
And of course, it looks great in the
modern podcast apps as well, because they all
show individual episode artwork.
Thank you so much.
noagendaartgenerator.com.
Your time and your talent is highly appreciated.
Now, we want to thank everybody who supported
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We mention everybody and the amount they donated.
We do take special time out at this
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You ponied up the money, just like Brad
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You know what he did with Plan B
Entertainment?
He just ponied up some money and helped
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In this case, we can't give you much
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You might get some jobs.
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And we kick it off with an old
friend who is back to round out the
old year, getting ready for the new year.
It is the one and only, pseudonymous of
Dogpatcher in Lower Slobovia with $2,534.
He always comes in with massive amounts, big
help for the show.
We don't understand the meaning of the numbers,
but we're pretty sure it's some kind of
code and we're fine with that.
And he said, so how many $2 bills
were there too?
Yeah, I believe so.
Two $2 bills.
You know, there's strip clubs that now force
people to get $2 bills.
So they don't give the girls ones?
Yes.
It's 100% increase from what the clientele
was giving before.
It's a great idea.
$2 bills are great.
I don't think the girls are going to
complain if you slap a bunch of ones
in the garter belt.
I, from what I understand from Raven, they're
happy with the $2 bills.
Well, I'm sure they are.
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Read that line again.
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That's one of the best lines he's ever
written.
Yeah, I believe so.
Lately, I've been sort of in the weeds
and sand, he says, and sand, making my
views...
And sand now.
And sand.
He's in the desert.
And making my views a little too micro
to add to the outstanding deconstruction offered by
your show.
My main observation is that the new administration
has a short time to implement change before
the midterm election, and overseas, people are watching.
Well, you kind of hinted at this with
your discussion of what's going on in Italy
with everyone all jacked up about Trump.
Yes, yeah.
And there's expectations.
So it's probably worldwide.
Yes, there's expectations.
Despite the political time pressure, from street level,
happier days seem in the offing as changes
are happening faster than many expected, even as
the hourglass is already running.
Wow.
He's dropping breadcrumbs.
Yes, I don't know.
He's our version of Q.
He's telling us something.
He's telling us.
Despite the political...
From street level, happier days seem in the
offing as changes are happening faster than many...
I think he's talking about Syria.
Something's going to go down with Syria.
I think.
I think so.
I think bombs will be dropping on Syria
before Trump gets in.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, they did drop some bombs already with
the taking out of some of the supposed
ISIS forces.
And then there's now Turkey's still going after
the Kurds that are there, not letting the
Kurds join the coalition.
No.
But there's a lot of possibilities there.
Thank you very much, Sir Animas, for your
enormous contribution.
And that's not just the treasure.
It is always...
The words you write are always taken with
great respect and understanding and love.
Thank you.
Yes, there's something going on.
Meanwhile, Commodore Sir Prime in...
What is this?
Secan?
How do you pronounce that?
Secan, Secani?
I would say Secan.
But maybe Secane?
Could be Secani.
Could be.
I'd say Secani.
1815.69, another big donation.
In the morning, gentlemen, he writes, let's end
this year strong with a show number donation.
Oh, it's the show number donation, 1815.
Oh, forgot about that.
How about...
Wait, how does that work out?
The fees, the fees, the fees.
Ah, yes.
Okay.
Good to know.
He added the fees.
Good to know.
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Southeast Delco.
With this donation, I also happily earned my
second doctorate.
Thanks.
Glad to get more out of the podcast
than my bachelor's degree.
That being said, my dumb ass realized I
never submitted info for my original PhD certificate.
Oh, no.
Is it possible?
Yeah, it's still possible to receive the certificate.
Of course, you know, it doesn't really expire.
Jay is...
As long as Jay is in the back
room, it's doable.
Also, comedian Sam Tripoli name-dropped Adam and
no agenda on the December 17th episode of
the Adam Carolla Show podcast.
Included in this email is the clip I
cut in the Fountain app.
So it's not perfect.
I kept 40 seconds of the lead-up
for context with 20 seconds...
Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I think it's time to get the two
Adams to sit down for a chat.
I'm behind on episode 1724.
So if you were already informed and covered
this, I apologize for bringing it up again.
Okay.
I will forego the 40 seconds of lead
-in for context and we'll just play the
20 seconds where we get the name check.
Fucking retarded kids.
Wow, what a needle drop that was.
Sorry about that.
So whoever's doing this, is this all part
of the Steele dossier PP tape?
Like, oh, we'll just take these drones, do
not black out the light and have them
all fucking speculate and start infighting and arguing.
I totally agree.
Adam Curry from a really great podcast called
No Agenda.
They were talking on that show that they
think there's like a bill that's coming up
about to expire that involves drones and militaries
and all that stuff that they kind of
want to gin up support for again.
So they kind of just throw these things
out there and see how everybody reacts to
it.
Well, it's all on the tape.
Yes, there's no chance.
Well, that was, that's a talk about a
misinterpretation of our thesis, but okay.
It's a good plug.
There's little, little chance I'll be on the
Adam Carolla show.
I have a feeling he does not like
me and this is based on me being
on his show 13 years ago, 14 years
ago, maybe even 15 years ago.
And it was clear he didn't like me.
And he said, I can see that it's,
it's totally understandable.
There are conflict personality conflicts that are obvious
to me.
Yes.
And I would knowing is seeing him do
his thing and knowing you well, I can
see that being there being a clash there.
I don't see, I don't see any compatibility
whatsoever.
There's no compatibility.
RS Bagwell is in Louisville, Kentucky.
Oh, look at this number.
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Karma, the original, no Trump.
Karma continues to come through for me because
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I'm able to continue my support of the
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RS Bagwell.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
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Karma.
That indeed is the original.
Sir, Schwoo of the six Springs in Franklin,
Tennessee.
Oh, this is one of the mercy me
guys again.
Yeah.
These guys are making good.
He plays guitar, lead guitar.
Oh, yes.
We have a good group.
It's a great group.
I'm sorry.
I missed them when they were out here.
They have toe tapping songs.
You'd like them.
Toe tappers.
Those days are over.
Okay.
You guys keep getting better with every show
he writes and listening to 1722 reminding me
of the value you guys bring three quotation
or exclamation marks.
He likes to use them.
He uses them again over and over.
Every sentence that he's written has three.
And in fact, four in one case exclamation
marks.
That's what these guitar players do.
Yeah.
It's actually a riff.
Yes.
He's that show is infuriating and hilarious at
the same time.
He writes.
Thanks for bringing sanity and joy through all
these crazy times.
I believe this donation of 1033 dot 33
brings me to Baron status.
Hopefully your accounting will match up with mine.
And I can henceforth be known as Baron
Schwoo of the six strings.
Yes.
There's a giveaway.
Hey, by the way, you can tell these
guys are doing okay.
I hope so.
Yeah.
Hope they keep doing okay.
What's the name of this group again?
Adam mercy me.
Wow.
John has been recorded and verified that you
promise to come to the next mercy me
show.
That's out your way.
Don't let us down.
Of course not.
I'll be there.
I'll be in the back.
Back with you guys.
Now here's to never finding an exit strategy.
Anything.
Any jingle.
Anything.
Jingle.
He writes anything.
Jingle from the good reverend is always appreciated.
And here's to an amazing 2025.
And there's the four exclamation marks.
P.S. Hoping to update the tip of
the day.
Jingle soon to keep Dana.
Brute.
Dana.
There you go.
Dana Brunetti.
Happy.
Okay.
He did.
He sent it to me and it will
be featured on today's tip of the day
segment.
And when he says the good reverend, I'm
thinking there's only one good reverend.
And it's not Al.
That's a shown up money shot.
Oh, Jesus.
Look at that.
That's a money shot.
Kenan Conway is a money shot.
That's the good reverend in my book.
Well, I think he probably wanted the other
one, but okay.
And there's Charles Mayfield.
Charles Mayfield from from the pharaoh dot life.
From Neota, Tennessee.
In the morning.
Gentry gave him a bunch of plugs last
show.
Yeah, this is better than meeting him with
advertisers.
That's a lot better in the morning.
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Appreciate it, brother.
And then we come to Jonathan Young in
Niles, Ohio.
350 93.
He's got no note.
I can't find a note.
I'll go back and look again.
350 93.
So he gets a double up karma.
He sure does.
You've got karma.
Sir Scoby of the Piedmont from Charlotte, North
Carolina is up next with 350 93.
So this must be a it's not a
coincidence.
Was that with fees?
I wish we I wish PayPal wouldn't do
the fees anymore.
So we just see what the number was.
It kind of screws up the numerology.
I like the fees.
Please accept this donation of 333 dot 33
plus fees.
There it is.
I should have read.
My mom has heard me talk about no
agenda so much.
She now asks what the two of you
are saying about given topics.
What are those two guys?
This is the old.
What are the boys?
Typically, there's an angle she hasn't heard yet.
For example, thanks to Fox News and Newsmax.
She was spun up and worried about the
drones.
So I clipped the segments of episode 17
20 and 17 21 and gave the gift
of no agenda analysis and media deconstruction.
She hasn't had a chance to listen, but
she's intrigued based on what I've shared of
your analysis.
And speaking of sharing, tis the season for
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and gave it to family and friends.
We've all been getting sloshed during holiday gatherings.
Thank you both for the premium content and
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Cheers and Happy New Year from Sir Scovey.
Well, there's another endorsement.
It's beautiful.
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That's what it is.
I can barely remember.
Sir Tyler in Anchorage, Alaska.
Three three forty three seventy five, which is
probably again three thirty three thirty three.
But they do when they do these calculations
of the doesn't seem to be consistent.
No, I don't.
I owe a special thanks to you two
and get donation for some digital original AI
thoughts and discussion.
What better way to explore new tech than
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Thanks.
Actually, a skeptical gray hairs.
I don't think so.
With real world experience.
Well, there's that many of fellow millennials are
too scared to get rich slow.
That's an interesting observation is a good observation.
Too scared to get rich slow.
Hmm.
Here's the twenty twenty five.
I look forward to getting more engaged with
no agenda nation.
I'm a sir, but I haven't been to
a meet up yet, which makes me a
different kind of douche bag.
But one none the same.
None the same.
Nonetheless, is really.
Yes, that's what I think it is.
Yes, I'll make it to the local Anchorage
meet up soon enough.
Anchorage.
Yes, Anchorage.
When's the best time to go see the
Northern Lights spread love, not hate and outsource
everything else to Tyler Systems LLC.
Mate, reach out to Tyler at Tyler Systems
dot com or wait to be reminded during
another executive producer note.
The folks that reached out first are already
getting lower prices.
Put a shirt on and pick up the
slack.
Producers cam stays off.
What kind of what kind of outfit is
Tyler running?
I don't know, but it sounds like zooms
involved.
Happy New Year.
He writes Sir Tyler in Alaska.
I got to get ahold of him.
He's does some stuff.
Baronet Craig Allen in the Sakaton, Arizona.
Second, you better set Sakaton Sakaton in the
morning, gents.
I want to start off the new year
properly.
Can I get a cicada cicada cicada?
Maybe I don't know.
I want to start the new year off
properly.
Can I get a health, stability and financial
achievement karma for me and my loved ones?
And of course, for the longevity of the
greatest podcast in the universe.
Have a good start of the new year,
says Baronet Craig Allen.
That means we need to add in a
service goat for you.
You've got karma.
Now we have an anonymous from Charlotte, North
Carolina, with three thirty three.
And he sent in a check and a
note on a sheet of paper.
This roof, I'm sticking it around.
He's got he sent a picture of a
gas.
A gas thing that you fill tanks with.
What's it called?
A gas pump.
The gas called a gas pump.
The gas pump.
And the price on the premium was three
thirty three.
So there you go.
The reason to donate.
Yes, always.
Note anonymous.
A longtime boner.
First time donor.
The three thirty three a gallon on the
gas pump was a sign I needed to
step up and donate.
I have listened to your show since 2011.
Thanks, Jerry B, for hitting me in the
mouth before I went to the university.
Your media deconstruction show makes.
I'm sorry, show notes.
I got to know.
Here's what I've written.
It doesn't seem that hard.
Why?
I got the wrong reading glasses.
Oh, well, shall I read this one?
You get your correct.
Yeah, you might as well, because if the
other glass are on the other desk, you
go get them.
You go get them.
I have listened to your show since 2011.
Thanks, Jerry B, for hitting me in the
mouth before I went to university.
Your media deconstruction and show notes have helped
me make informed decisions and to craft my
own viewpoints on many topics throughout my adulthood.
Well, we are creating better citizens.
I credit the show with helping my wife
and I navigate the madness around the pandemic,
which led to our child starting his life
in 2020 with a level of normalcy compared
to others we have met whose children were
severely set back during that time.
Again, John, we are creating better citizens, better
human resources.
Good.
That means more to me than the donation.
Actually, I look forward to contributing more in.
Yes, I look forward to contributing more in
the new year.
Happy new year to you both.
I would like a Hot Pockets by Ayn
Rand jingle, if possible.
Well, it doesn't exist, but I'll see if
I can make it possible.
Hot Pockets by Ayn Rand.
There you go.
I did it.
You did.
You're great.
Spencer Pollock in Tulsa, Oklahoma, 25270 is our
first associate executive producer for the show.
It's a long segment, people, but this is
the end of the year.
Switcheroo, please credit to the hardest working mama
this side of Tulsa, Guantanamo Bay.
With the new home move and a baby
on the way due in June, we have
plenty to be grateful for since there's too
many things to get karma for.
Could you please play the shape-shifting Jews
jingle?
Merry Christmas, John and Adam.
Thanks for all the laughs and for being
our national public radio in the Pollock home.
And to the women who made the first
Tulsa No Agenda meetup happen, my smoking hot
wife, Merry Christmas and my sweet, uh, Merry
Christmas, my sweet forever love.
Guantanamo Bay.
Here we go.
You've got karma.
So we had a, talking about bay, B
-A-E is a pun, but we had
another discussion about the term dip at the
dinner table.
Oh yes, about dipping out.
So we had a bunch of, I had
a back and forth, you were CC'd on
most of them with this guy trying to
determine the history of this.
I did see some of that, yes.
Terminology.
And he finally determined that it was disparaging.
It was a disparaging term for people who
like sneak out of an event, they dip,
they dip out.
Yes.
And so that became a point of discussion
with Jay.
With the millennials.
The millennials, the lower and upper millennials.
Jay took the side that it's not disparaging
and that's bullcrap.
But yet her husband, Brennan and JC both
said, yeah, you know, it probably is disparaging.
Yes.
So the discussion will continue and then it
will end.
We appreciate this update.
I guess I could have not used it.
It's a long segment.
Make it longer, please.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
I tried to make it longer.
No, you interjected some content.
I appreciate it.
Jules Walters is in Snohomish, Washington.
Rowe Dux, Associate Executive Producer, credit for you,
222.22. Greetings, gents.
I'm just another millennial who was raised on
a steady diet of processed food and high
hopes that there's good people in high places
making smart decisions with my best interests at
heart.
And boy, was I wrong.
It turns out it's a scam.
I'll take a Chinese de-douching.
There's no such a thing as a Chinese
de-douching.
If you play it sideways, maybe.
How about if I do this?
You've been de-douched.
Try that out.
Jingles, A-Team, life is a scam.
They're eating the dogs followed by some of
that dank millennial karma.
Cheers from Jules.
There's a need for a rescue mission when
the world is threatened.
The world needs help.
It calls on America.
And that's the story.
Life is a scam.
They're eating the dogs.
You've got karma.
Nice.
Netson Muffet Mullins in East Lake, Ohio, 212
.72. Dear John and Adam, thank you for
the best podcast in the universe.
Please call out Chris as a douchebag.
Requesting a Hot Pockets karma.
And if you need a car, a truck,
go see Cal and his dog, Spot.
Smock, smock.
Hot Pockets.
Eli the Coffee Guy checks in from Bensonville,
Illinois.
He's always on the show, 212.29. And
he says, as the season 2024 in America
comes to a close, we're left with plenty
of great cliffhangers.
And 2025 promises to be jam-packed full
of action and excitement.
So stay tuned and stay caffeinated.
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Happy New Year to all, says Eli the
Coffee Guy.
Followed by Linda Lipatkin in Lakewood, Colorado, $200.
She wants Jobs Karma and says, put your
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Happy New Year.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Sarah Creedle is in East Wenatchee, help me
out.
Wenatchee.
Wenatchee, Washington.
ITM boys, Sarah the Web Babe here.
John, thank you for your enthusiastic read of
my last notes.
You really put the C in ad copy.
I'd like to credit this donation to my
smoking hot husband, Zach, who hit me in
the mouth in July of 2020.
The show has kept us sane and entertained.
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Now that's a read.
Yeah, it was.
You read it.
A Dame Toni Helfst in Fort Worth, Texas.
200 bucks and she'll be our last Associate
Executive Producer.
Although...
I think Sir Donald...
I did the math.
He's from Candanavia.
There seems to be a missing donation here.
What are you missing?
Well, it's...
He knows, I know, we both know.
I have to go look into it.
It'll be on the next show, I guess.
Okay.
Dame Toni Helfst in Fort Worth.
I sent this donation using Stripe instead of
my usual snail mail check because Episode 1724
was so darned entertaining.
What were we doing in that episode?
I don't know.
I was laughing so hard at the bird
flu lady.
Oh, yes.
That's what we were doing.
Bird flu lady.
Yeah, the bird flu lady.
The tears were rolling down my face.
I had to listen twice.
Please switcheroo this to my son, Brian Helfst.
He's almost a knight.
Thanks again for the entertainment.
From one boomer to another two boomers.
Dame Toni Helfst.
Now, I'm looking at this donation from Sir
Donald of Calgary and I know the Candanavian
dollar rate is so bad.
I think he donated $200 Candanavian and then
it turns out to be $147.91. Oh.
Are you in on that?
Because I just want to read some of
his note because he sent a note that
was way too long.
Well, the reason also, he says, it's been
a challenging time in my family this year
as my dad has been sick with cancer
and he will be leaving soon.
So please send me and my family some
F-cancer karma.
As I'd already been looking to make a
change a couple months ago, I completed the
sale of my condo in Calgary and moved
back home to hated rival city, Edmonton, to
stay at my folks place to be there
to help out as best I can.
My older brothers have helped with organizing my
dad's treatment and care.
So he sends a very long note, a
lot of stuff about Trudeau in there.
We know it's a mess.
He'll probably go soon.
So here is the F-cancer and some
karma for your dad and for you and
your brothers.
You've got karma.
And that wraps up our executive and associate
executive producers for episode 1725 of the best
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We appreciate you very much.
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Our formula is this.
We go out.
We hit people in the mouth.
Right, right.
There's some Florida news.
Florida news.
Florida man in the news.
So here's Sheriff Grady.
Does a press conference about shooting carjackers.
Oh, because he was given grief by the
press, who thought it was bad that some
carjacker was shot.
They'd rather have the carjacker, I guess, jack
cars.
Sure.
If you're not allowed to use deadly force
for property, why do you say he would
have been justified in killing him?
First off, he tried a carjacking with a
lady and then he was doing a burglary
of a vehicle and he was in the
string of a group of felonies at the
time.
When you start trying to carjack somebody's car
at a gas station, your subject gets shot
and shot a lot.
Did he have a weapon?
She doesn't have to have a weapon, brother.
You can carjack with just pure violence and
force.
You don't think that's a dangerous message you're
putting out?
That is an absolute correct message I'm putting
out to Polk County citizens.
You try to break into somebody's car and
steal it while they're there with it.
That's called armed carjacking.
The attorneys would disagree with you, but you're
the sheriff, so.
If you come to this county and if
you use extreme violence to try to carjack
somebody from their car, if you get shot,
that's on you.
So I thought that was good because this
is like, you know, the way these sheriffs
should be.
But then it turns out that's not uncommon
in Florida.
This is the second clip from a guy
in Brandonton, another completely different part of the
state, giving the same message.
It happened around nine o'clock last night
on Hickory Hammock Circle in Bradenton.
Deputies say surveillance video shows two men trying
to get in through the back of the
home.
Now, they say the homeowner saw it happening,
got his gun and fired at least three
shots.
A bullet hit one of the men.
That man later died in the hospital.
A canine deputy found the other suspect a
few blocks away and he is in jail
this noon.
I praise this husband for doing what he
needed to do to protect his home and
protect his family.
And if you're going to be that brazen
to come into my home, once again, you
should expect that you're going to be shot.
Wow.
Sounds like a Texan.
Although you never hear Greg Abbott say that.
He's not like that.
The states vary.
They do.
In California, if you would have shots, that
guy got shot trying to get to his
house.
You have to, they allow you to get
robbed.
There are two clips I need to play
because they are in play.
You probably heard about this.
If you are in this country illegally and
you committed a crime by entering the country,
you should be uncomfortable.
You should look over your shoulder and you
need to be worried.
With the recent rise in immigration arrests, Mexican
nationals have been given a new emergency resource.
Eyewitness News reporter Elisa Nieves shows us how
it works.
The free app Mi Consul Max now has
an emergency button where users can call or
text to get an immediate response from a
consulate officer.
While the app is designed for Mexican nationals,
the Consul General of Mexico in San Antonio
says they will also respond to cases of
undocumented immigrants facing deportation.
Relative that is missing when someone is apprehended
and they don't have access to an attorney
or to some legal help.
Also when they're experiencing some abuse in the
use of force, for example, of some authorities.
The button launched last month.
Spreading Consul Torres says the need for the
consulate's immediate assistance grew more than 100%
since this time last year.
People want to know about their legal cases.
They want to receive information on their migratory
status.
Immigration attorney Lance Curtright says anytime an undocumented
immigrant is arrested, they have the right to
notify the consulate.
The app just expedites that service.
And just think of it from our perspective,
if you are a US citizen and you're
abroad, you'd want, and you got arrested, you'd
want to be able to talk to your
counsel right away.
That's all they're doing here.
And that's an appropriate thing to do.
Visit KENS5.com for more information on the
app and its services.
So you heard about this story?
Oh yeah, it's a great story.
This story that I just played, this clip
is seven years old.
It's out again.
They did this seven years ago.
Well, I heard this story just the other
day.
I know.
And I went searching for a story and
I'm like, wait a minute, they did this
story seven years ago.
Well, they're up to the same no good.
And then this clip is a must listen.
This explains everything you need to know about
the problems in Canada.
There's a lot of problems right now.
There's a lot of problems.
This particular problem is in Parliament, a chemistry
professor is complaining about the level of DEI
in grants for Canadian studies.
I found this to be fascinating.
And at the same time, makes a lot
of sense why Canada should really become the
51st state.
We can save you.
Adam Chair, committee members, thank you for inviting
me.
The Academy has become an echo chamber of
progressive social justice ideas.
And this is reflected in the federal research
granting process.
A previous witness noted a phenomenon described as
group polarization.
When ideological uniform groups lack dissenting voices, the
group often arrives at positions far more radical
than those of most individuals in the group.
Lack of viewpoint diversity diminishes research excellence.
As an example, the Journal of Chemical Education
published a paper titled a special topic class
in chemistry on feminism and science as a
tool to disrupt disconscious racism in STEM.
This paper described the development and interrelationship between
quantum mechanics, Marxist materialism, Afrofuturism, pessimism, and post
-colonial nationalism and attempted to problematize time as
a linear social construct.
Our government funded a research grant titled Decolonizing
Light, Tracing and Countering Colonialism in Contemporary Physics,
where the authors aim not to find new
or better explanations of light or seek scientific
truth, rather they plan to address the marginalization
of women, black people, and indigenous peoples for
social equity.
The Journal of Cogent Social Sciences published a
paper titled The Conceptual Penis as a Social
Construct in which the authors used post-structuralist
discursive criticism in the example of climate change
to argue that the conceptual penis is better
understood not as an anatomical organ but as
a social construct isomorphic to performative toxic masculinity.
It has to be two states, Eastern and
Western.
Yeah, but do we really want the French
part?
Probably, but they can keep it.
Why don't you let them go free?
Free them.
Free the French Canadians.
Free the French.
Free the French Canadians.
Yeah, so you have the two states, East
and West, and then you have French Canada,
which would be what's left of Canada.
And it'd be its own thing.
That would work out, I think.
Yeah.
I know the West and the East don't
get along, so that you can't just have
one big state.
So I think there's another op underway, another
anti-Russia op.
NATO, of course, is just beside themselves that
Trump is going to end this war.
And so we need to remember what Mark
Rutte said.
We need to have a war mindset.
A war mindset.
A war economy.
And so this story has been around, there
have been stories like it.
This is relatively short, just to set you
up for the NATO guy.
NATO is stepping up Navy patrols in the
Baltic Sea after Russia was accused of sabotaging
a major undersea power cable.
Finnish authorities are interviewing the crew of a
ship suspected of cutting the cable on Christmas
Day.
The line carries electricity between Finland and Estonia,
but it now sits at the bottom of
the Baltic.
Alexander Stubbe is Finland's president.
We've got the situation under control and we
have to continue work together vigilantly to make
sure that our critical infrastructure is not damaged
by outsiders.
It's too soon to draw conclusions yet why
this happened.
We know who did it.
Investigators believe the unmarked vessel belongs to Russia.
The Kremlin has declined to comment on the
accusation.
Since the start of Russia's war in Ukraine,
several cables have been cut in the Baltic
Sea.
So, this was, what was this on?
I can't remember what this was on.
This is a NATO spokeshole, not Mark Rutte,
of course.
This is American, I believe.
And he is now warning about unconventional threats
from Russia.
The brutality of Russia's war in Ukraine.
At France 24.
Is all too clear.
But Moscow is also accused of waging a
far more covert campaign of attacks against NATO
countries.
It means while life across much of the
rest of Europe, the US and Canada may
seem peaceful on the surface, Western officials warn
of a growing hidden threat.
Hidden threat.
And they say it's not only from cyber
attacks and online disinformation.
What's also new is the increase in sabotage
and assassination plots.
Arson, damage to infrastructure.
He heads a team updating a NATO strategy
to track and deter what's known as hybrid
warfare.
He says such attacks linked to Russia have
risen since the full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
If you're only strictly in the kinetic attack,
we can definitely count dozens up to 100
for sure.
We're in a little bit of a boiling
frog situation.
We are seeing now what would have been
utterly unacceptable five years ago.
But we've kind of gotten used to a
little bit more and a little bit more
and a little bit more.
And that's very dangerous.
So we want to establish a baseline now,
then prevent escalation, manage it if it happens.
But also work to de-escalate not to
where we are now, but to where we
were years ago.
So he's setting us up for this complete
overview of all the things that Russia, maybe
China, but probably Russia has been doing that
we've just been in the West, in Western
Europe, have just been sitting like frogs in
a boiling pot.
Who knew this hybrid warfare was taking place
the whole time?
Types of hostility include cyber attacks with literally
thousands happening every day, linked not just to
Russia, but also to China, Iran, and North
Korea.
London was the victim of a major cyber
hack last summer on hospital blood tests.
Then there are disinformation campaigns aimed, for example,
at political interference.
It's what Russia is suspected of doing during
a recent presidential election race in Romania.
Russian spies are also accused of physical attacks,
such as an attempt to assassinate the head
of a major German defense company.
And another big concern is a spike in
suspected Russian sabotage and arson, targeting undersea cables,
train lines, and warehouses linked to European support
to Ukraine.
They're everywhere.
It can't just be a failing of a
computer system.
It can't just be- Sounds like a
plot from an old movie from the 40s.
Yeah, well, it's the Red Scare.
That's what they're doing.
Oh, they're trying to assassinate German defense guys.
Doesn't ring really true to me.
No, especially when you know they could do
it if they wanted to.
Yes, easily.
I have a hack story from the Japan
Airlines thing, and it turns out, I guess
the Bank of Japan's been hacked too, which
didn't get much play.
Japan Airlines says its computer network has come
under cyber attack, causing problems with its baggage
management system.
JAL says the attack began shortly before 7
.30 Thursday morning.
The airliner says it expects the glitch to
affect both domestic and international flights, and that
some flights are already delayed.
The company says that as of 10.30
a.m., more than 10 flights leaving Tokyo's
Haneda Airport have been delayed by up to
around 50 minutes.
JAL says it deeply apologizes to customers and
others for the inconvenience.
We have breaking news, breaking news, breaking news
at this hour.
President Carter has died at the age of
100.
Well, he got to 100.
Let's roll out the retrospective.
Well, that'll- Chew up some news cycles.
Everyone has it ready.
Everyone's got one on the shelf.
Oh, yeah, of course they do.
Good to go.
What can we predict will be in the
- First of all, we'll have the word
peanut farmer.
That will definitely be in the retrospective.
Lots of building homes, habitat for humanity.
Yep, lots of that.
That'll be in there.
How about, didn't he have a drunk brother?
He won't be mentioned.
But didn't he have one, or was that
Clinton?
Yeah, yeah, Billy.
Billy Carter.
Billy Beer, he had his own beer label.
Matter of fact, you remember.
Billy Beer will not be mentioned in the
retrospective, which is too bad, which is too
bad.
Who else should be in there?
What else, what else should be in there?
There has to be the Iranian- Oh,
yes.
Hostage crisis, which got kicked out.
Yep, yep, yep, the hostage crisis.
I don't know of anything else.
And, well, they will also talk about Rosalyn.
Got to talk about Rosalyn.
That was his wife, wasn't it?
Rosalyn?
Yeah, Rosalyn, yeah.
I don't know what to talk about her,
what she had to do with- Well,
just mention her, like a brief mention.
And then they will show, didn't Bill, who
visited them?
Was it, no, Biden and Jill.
Yeah.
Yeah, they visited them, so they'll show that.
All right, that's it.
That's done, your retrospective.
Rest in peace, Jimmy Carter.
Yeah, we did it, we did it here.
Rest in peace.
I have another hacker clip that's been sitting
around.
You have to go look it up in
the archive.
Okay.
I forgot to move it over.
All right.
S-A-L-Y.
Yes.
In all caps, you should find it.
Yes, I have it.
A Chinese state bank hacking operation causing a
stir on Capitol Hill.
Lawmakers today investigate what one senator has called
the worst telecom hack in our nation's history.
This comes after the White House warns that
millions of Americans' personal information could be at
risk.
Oh, yeah.
Currently, our communities, our schools, hospitals, our libraries,
our police departments, and emergency responders do not
have the resources to defend themselves against foreign
adversaries.
The salt typhoon hacks that were discovered last
month demonstrate that even the largest corporations in
the United States are vulnerable.
U.S. officials last month unveiled a stealthy
cyber espionage campaign titled Salt Typhoon.
The operation has reportedly compromised at least eight
major telecom networks, including Verizon, AT&T, and
T-Mobile.
According to the FBI, Salt Typhoon enables Beijing
to tap into Americans' phone calls and text
messages.
President-elect Trump, Senator J.D. Vance, and
Vice President Kamala Harris are all victims of
this campaign.
Salt Typhoon has been acting for roughly two
years, but the full extent of damages it
has caused remain unknown till this day.
Lawmakers recommended several countermeasures, including getting companies with
ties to China out of American networks.
Yeah, that's it.
Everything, everything China has got to go.
Your air fryer.
Got to get them out of the networks.
Got to get the TikTok on wings, the
drones.
Everything China has got to go, has got
to go.
So the big story that's not reported, I
don't, I should have a clip, but I
never got one, which is the fact that
Huawei, which would be a great investment if
it wasn't privately held in China by the
government, came out with their, and Huawei is
a huge phone, cell phone maker.
Yes, and switches for the cell phone networks,
everything.
And that, but they also make phones and
they make good phones.
The phones are dynamite.
They used to show them here in the
States and they banned them.
Yep.
They've dropped Android and they've come up with
their own operating system.
Yes.
That's a bigger deal than people would, this
story's not played.
No.
It's a huge deal.
They announced it, I think a few, like
a month ago or something.
A couple of weeks ago.
I think it was a while ago.
It's based, it was, it's an, isn't it
based on a, an Android derivative, like Graphene
OS or something?
I'm not sure where it came from.
I don't think so.
But you can do it.
But why would you want to use Android?
Screw them.
No, I mean, you look at the Nokia
phones, they're using, what's that other OS called?
They used to use Symbian.
What happened to that?
Symbian's open source.
Just no one will ever do anything with
it.
What is that?
What is the flip phone Nokia operating system?
It's a, it's a, it's a funky one,
but it works pretty well.
It's a Kai OS.
There you go.
Kai OS.
But I think Kai OS got investment from
Google and everyone considers them to be compromised.
Compromised.
Compromised, I tell you.
Hey, I mean, I hate to be morbid
about it, but it would be kind of
interesting if they claimed that Jimmy Carter finally
died of bird flu.
It would really help the cause.
They're not going to be able to pull
that one off.
I'm going to get to your TikTok clips
in a moment.
Everybody waits for it.
We're so excited.
But first, this important report from the world
of chess.
The Norwegian chess grandmaster Magnus Carlsen has quit
a world tournament in New York after the
game's governing body said he could not carry
on playing wearing jeans.
He was given the opportunity to change into
smarter trousers, but refused using offensive language.
Paul Moss reports.
He's always been considered a maverick in the
chess world.
Magnus Carlsen certainly shifted the image of chess
grandmasters, often seen as introverted or geeky.
He, by contrast, was famed for his alcohol
capacity, earning the nickname Dr. Drunkenstein.
Mr. Carlsen also tends to dress more stylishly
than his opponents.
And at the Rapid Chess Tournament in New
York, he refused a demand to wear smart
trousers.
Warned he'd be kicked out unless he changed
out of jeans immediately.
Magnus Carlsen's response was rather direct.
They can enforce their rules.
That's fine by me.
And my response is then I'm out like
you.
This is not Magnus Carlsen's first controversy.
He once accused an opponent of having radio
controlled objects inserted in a certain bodily orifice,
signaling which move to make.
That matter was eventually resolved.
But Mr. Carlsen's sartorial choices look set to
remain a running sore in the world of
chess.
I think the chess game has just gotten
interesting to watch.
I think my clip has got more information
that's a little more interesting.
Oh, you have a clip about Dr. Drunkenstein?
It doesn't discuss that.
It discusses the fact that nobody can beat
this guy.
Chess champ.
The world's top chess player, Magnus Carlsen, quit
the World Rapid Chess Championship in New York
today after he was told to change out
of his jeans to abide by a dress
code.
The Norwegian chess grandmaster was fined $200 yesterday
and given a warning by the International Chess
Federation to change the clothes or be disqualified.
He told the chess channel Take, Take, Take.
He was told he had to change immediately,
so he quit.
And he says he won't appeal the decision.
Quitting means the 34-year-old, who became
a grandmaster at 13, won't be able to
defend his title in the World Blitz Championship,
where he's a seven-time champ.
Wait a minute.
There's a chess channel?
Seven-time champ at this event.
They kicked him out, obviously, for the reason
he's going to win again.
This is bullcrap.
There's controversy in the chess world.
And he was a grandmaster at 13?
That's amazing.
That's a smart kid.
Hey, you ready?
Well, let's do a prelim.
There's a lot of, you know, I've decided
or I noticed a lot of my talk
clips, and I call them talk, are actually
from elsewhere.
Let me just set you up here.
We need to have the jingle to get
everyone ready.
And I've also noticed something.
Most of the people in a lot of
these clips have nose rings.
It's a thing these days.
People have nose rings.
And I think the nose ring is subconsciously
announcing to the world that you like to
be led around by the nose, because that's
the same kind of a ring that a
cow would have.
Yes.
And so you're actually saying to the public,
even though you don't even know it, probably,
it's subconscious.
You're saying, I'd like to be led around
by the nose.
So my opinions of things are actually somebody
else's.
I'm being led to say these things.
I honestly believe that to be true.
Excellent analysis.
I cannot refute that.
And so all these clips today are people
with nose rings.
Let's start with this is not from this
doesn't say this one is Cal, C-A
-L, pronoun rapist.
A convicted criminal who served time at the
women's prison in Chowchilla is charged with raping
fellow inmates.
A Madera County judge says Tremaine Carroll must
be referred to with she her pronouns.
But the district attorney is pushing back because
the 52-year-old Carroll is a biological
male and the decision could impact the pursuit
of justice.
Court records show Carroll was convicted in Los
Angeles County in 1993 for aggravated kidnapping for
the purpose of ransom or to commit another
crime.
Carroll is now serving time in a men's
prison as this rape case moves forward.
Action News reporter Brianna Willis spoke with the
district attorney about the potential impact of the
pronoun ruling.
A Madera County judge ruled this week 52
-year-old state prisoner Tremaine Carroll must be
referred to with she her pronouns because Carroll
identifies as a woman.
But the district attorney believes the defendant is
abusing the system.
This is a person who's not a woman
in any sense of the word.
In March, D.A. Sally Moreno charged Carroll
for rape allegedly committed while incarcerated at the
Central California women's facility in Chowchilla.
After his first cellmate became pregnant and was
moved to Los Angeles, two other cellmates of
his complained that he had raped them.
So we have filed rape charges against this
inmate.
Moreno says the ruling regarding pronouns impacts her
ability to prosecute the case.
This is a particular issue in this case
because it's confusing to the jury.
In California, rape is a crime that has
to be accomplished by a man.
Supervising Deputy D.A. Eric Dutemple says it's
also unfair to the victims.
It's just absolutely insane that a victim would
have to get on the stand and police
their pronouns and their usage when trying to
recite one of the most scariest times in
their lives.
Carroll was allowed to serve time in a
women's prison despite being a biological male because
of Senate Bill 132, the Transgender Respect Agency
and Dignity Act, which took effect in 2021.
Wow.
I'm going to change my opinion of making
Canada the 51st state.
I think we should give California to Canada.
Yeah, well, I can see that conceptual penis.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Isn't that unbelievable?
The Senate bill, it was makes it.
So this guy, all you have to say
is you're a woman.
You have to put you in a woman's
prison.
This is unbelievably stupid.
But that's California.
So let's listen to TikTok clips.
These are the more this is.
Let's start with talk.
This is a guy, a guy with a
nose ring yakking away.
Me and my girlfriend were going to a
wine castle and we sat down for our
tasting.
And at first they were just very rude
and didn't really answer our questions.
And we didn't really feel welcome.
Our server said, yes, you had something to
say about my uptalk clips.
Holy moly.
Really feel welcome.
Our server said, yes, sir.
When I was asking some questions and I
said, oh, no, no, no, I'm actually not
a sir.
And instead of apologizing or I don't know
what else you would do other than apologize.
They just walked away, did not acknowledge what
I said, just walked away.
We saw the server like whispering to a
manager.
And a few minutes later, the manager came
over and, you know, really big smile, not
acknowledging at all that the misgender had happened.
And I say, hey, look, the last person
they misgendered me.
And that really hurt.
And they just walked away.
And the manager said, oh, well, some people
just aren't as progressive as you.
And then they gave us a nice little
chocolate that suggested they wanted our money, but
didn't want to say sorry.
So we left and got a full refund.
It's one thing to get misgendered and then
get an apology.
But it's another thing to get misgendered and
then be told that it's OK and not
to worry about it.
And here's a chocolate.
Again, this is narcissism at its peak in
culture.
It's all about me and how I feel
and how I want to identify.
And look at my nose ring.
Yeah, this guy had one, too.
Yeah, it's it's sad.
And these people need help.
And here we had now this one is
a carryover from the last show.
I resisted playing it.
This is another woman.
And I believe she has a nose ring.
And she has just this is the only
way I can describe this clip is this
is just loony ramblings.
Good news.
It doesn't matter who you voted for.
If you really thought Trump was going to
have your back and you're disappointed.
Here's the good news, guys.
Apparently, Amendment 14, Article three states that Trump
is technically disqualified because he was found guilty
of an attempted insertion.
This wonderful attempt at what insertion and attempted
an attempted insertion.
Yes, he was found guilty, by the way,
of this attempted insertion states that Trump is
technically disqualified because he was found guilty of
an attempted insertion.
This wonderful, brilliant young woman posted it this
morning.
And I don't remember her name, but I
reposted it.
If this is so, I know it's the
holiday season.
But whomever has these skills, community organizers, if
you could please make it super easy for
all of us.
No excuse to email, call our representatives to
demand an amnesty act to avoid Vice President
Trump from taking office.
Vice President.
And Trump, listen, you've never been my favorite
person.
Did she say Vice President Trump?
Yeah, that's exactly what she said to avoid
Vice President Trump from taking office.
And Trump, listen, you've never been my favorite
person.
You're you're a person.
You're somebody's father, grandfather.
But I never understood why he's so hateful.
But and I understand that you were afraid
to go to jail.
So you sold your soul.
Listen, it's scary.
You've been rich, a white rich man your
whole life to suddenly go to jail.
You sold your soul.
But here's the thing.
It's not a good look.
You've kind of regressed.
And even you deserve better.
Your father was an abusive narcissist.
And here you are once again being made
to look small by this narcissistic, abusive billionaire
who is pulling your strings because he bought
you your freedom.
And he is now president.
And it's it's really pathetic.
You deserve better.
Well, this is a fine case of what
you say being yourself narcissistic.
Why else would this loony go on TikTok
to ramble like this?
I just baffled by every time I get
one of these clips.
What is I wish it would be even
better.
Ever felt the urge to go on one
on one, have a camera in your car.
By the way, these are always in somebody's
car.
This is because that's your that's your personal
narcissist studio.
It's your little studio.
Yeah.
And have you ever found the urges to
go on and ramble about something like, you
know, your personal gripe about the day or
so?
I mean, it's just beyond me.
I just completely it's baffling.
That's why I get these clips because I
just like, wow, what happened here?
I'm still stuck on attempted insertion, to be
honest.
Attempted insertion.
Yeah, he was found guilty of attempting.
Oh, there's so much food, but don't I
have to know a gender?
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, I'll know a gender in the morning.
You were going to say something?
He was found guilty of attempted.
Attempted insertion.
That's right.
I mean, that goes perfectly with the end
of show mix about the erection that he
that he did.
Yeah, that guy did the end of show
mix as an erection clip where they got
so I didn't half of these.
I never heard.
Yeah, they're good.
I thought I heard most of them.
Yeah, the January 6 erection.
Yes, we are here to thank the rest
of our producers.
Fifty dollars and above is still on the
way.
We do have the end of show mix.
We have a couple of title upgrades and,
of course, the tip of the day.
Everyone's very excited about it.
John, take us through the 50s, if you
don't mind.
Yes.
Let's start off with MSR in Germantown, Wisconsin.
One hundred and fifty dollars.
Then we have Sir Donald, which you already
did.
Dame Danny and Sir Jeff in Mount Shasta.
One, two, three, four, five.
And these people are always wishing us Happy
New Year, by the way.
All of them.
Hedy in Hedy.
Little Hedy in Truckee, California.
One seventeen fifty four.
Hedy.
This amounts in homage to RFK's upcoming birthday,
which is one seventeen fifty four.
That's what she gave us.
One seventeen fifty four.
Interesting.
She used to donate to KPFA, but got
wise and that gives us.
And by the way, the same thing should
be said about PBS.
Eric Reinhardt in San Antonio, Texas.
One oh five thirty five.
Dame Dane in Binnington, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic.
I think that's not Switzerland.
Sorry.
That's Switzerland.
She's in Switzerland.
Ninety two seventy two with a Happy New
Year.
McKenna in Hutchinson, Kansas.
Eighty four thirty eight.
Kevin McLaughlin.
There he is finally.
Eight oh oh eight.
He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America
and boobs.
And that is a boob donation, along with
Christian Grulish in Winter Haven, Florida, with eight
oh oh eight.
And Jonathan Rupert in Oakland, California.
Who's eight oh oh eight and wish wishing
his smoking hot wife, Baroness Sarah.
A happy birthday.
Jorge Alvarez in Ponte Verde Beach, Florida.
Seventy one seventy one.
Craig Kohler in Evansville, Indiana.
Sixty five oh two, which is a chip.
James Buell in Vista, California.
Six oh oh six.
Edward Bala Bala Bala and Cork.
He's in Cork, Ireland.
Fifty six seventy eight.
Surprise in the Yukon, Oklahoma.
Fifty four forty four.
Kevin Adam in Clover, South Carolina.
Fifty two seventy two.
Carney Woodland in Worthington, Ohio.
Fifty two seventy two.
This is a switcheroo donation for her smoking
hot husband, Doug.
And he needs a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
David Hudson in Lombard, Illinois.
Fifty two seventy two.
It was a reminder to tip your garbage
man.
That's right.
I did.
I did it before we left.
You did now.
I always tip the garbage man.
How do you do this?
What was the mechanism?
Did you run out there at five in
the morning when they came up to pick
up the garbage?
How'd you do this?
Well, as you know, we have a private
garbage pickup because we are unincorporated.
And so we have our dudes from Gillespie
County Waste Management.
And I ran out there at eight.
Forty five is when they come and pick
it up.
And he got out of his truck and
I complimented his big truck.
He has a new truck.
And by the way, if I forget to
put my garbage out, I can text him
and say, oh, bro, I forgot to put
my garbage out.
He comes back and picks it up.
And so I gave him I gave him
a little Christmas card with a tip.
Oh, nice.
I give bottles of wine.
I have too much wine in the cellar.
OK.
Eric Hockel in Mulrose, Deutschland.
Fifty two dollars.
There he is.
And it's coming through.
His name's coming through for a change.
Amazing.
Sir recalcitrant crazy Steve, our buddy here in
Santa Rosa, California.
Fifty one.
Fifty.
Please shout out the meetup at Old Kaz
in Roanoke Park next Saturday.
One for twenty five.
And he's going to be at the Mallard
Club at two one twenty five.
Scott Nelson in Council Bluffs, Iowa.
Fifty oh one.
Now the following people are all fifty dollar
donors and not a lot of them.
Surprisingly, and I just give the names and
locations.
Sorry with Richard Gardner, who I think's in
New York.
John Taylor in Florissant, Colorado.
Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon.
Sir, conference or I'm sorry, sir.
Circumstance not to be mixed up with circumference
in Rancho Palos Verdes, California.
Bobby Bosch or Bo Bobby Bo.
No, no, no, no.
Bobby Bowie.
Oh, boy.
No, boy.
Bobby Boy.
You know, she's writing a note.
It says it right in your note, making
a big point of saying, don't forget it's
pronounced boy.
You keep her mispronouncing it.
And how'd that work?
It didn't work out because I said it
wrong again, but it is pronounced boy.
So it's Bobby Boy.
He's getting a lot of attention on this
show.
Yes, she is.
Bluegrass.
And she's in Bluegrass, Iowa, which I assume
is grassy.
And finally, on the list, a short list
is Leaf Thompson in Meridian, Idaho.
And he came in at the last fifty
dollars.
I want to thank him and everybody else
for helping us out on show for 1725.
And again, thanks to our executive and associate
executive producers for this episode and for all
of those under fifty dollars, which we will
not mention for reasons of anonymity.
We see you.
We read you.
We love you.
And of course, the sustaining donors who set
up recurring donations.
Any amount, any frequency, go to noagendadonations.com
to set that up again.
It's noagendadonations.com.
It's your birthday, birthday, on No Agenda.
Sir Donald of Calgary turned 57 on the
27th.
Sir Circumstance celebrates today.
Happy birthday.
Doug and Cammie wish Adam Fitch a happy
one for tomorrow.
And Jonathan Rupert wishes his smoking hot wife,
Baroness Sarah Rupert, a very happy birthday.
And we do the same for everybody here
at the best podcast in the universe.
And we missed a title change on show
1721.
Kim donated to upgrade her title to Archduchess.
It was missed in the title change segment.
And of course, she wonders if she can
now have the title of Black Archduchess.
And I think she can.
It's been approved here on my spreadsheet.
It wasn't approved by the committee.
Well, Kim, Keeper of the Nutty Fluffers, is
now Archduchess Kim, Keeper of the Nutty Fluffers.
You take it up with the committee, Kim.
Commodore Sir Prime becomes Commodore Sir Prime, Baron
of Southeast Delaware County, region of Pennsylvania.
And Sir Schwoo of the Six Strings becomes
Baron Schwoo of the Six Strings.
Thank you all very much for supporting the
No Agenda show in the amount of $1
,000 or more.
Yes?
I will mention this.
Yes?
Uh, we have long ago determined that the
only thing that you can be a Black,
you can be a Black Knight, because it's
like a thing, a Black Knight, but a
Black Baron, a Black Duke, a Black this,
a Black that.
Unless I can be talked out of it,
I don't think it's appropriate.
Well, I think you should call HR and
have HR talk to Jay, because she put
Black Archduchess in my prep.
Yeah, I realize that that's what she did,
but she did it on her own accord.
We can't have that.
Have HR give her a talking to.
She's gone rogue.
Now we have a couple of Commodores, which
is very nice to see.
We congratulate the following Commodores.
Sir Prime, I realize we've got the wrong
thing here.
Hold on a second.
Are those Commodores or are those Doctors of
Education?
There's Doctors of Education.
I made a mistake.
Let me try that again.
No one will know the difference when I
edit it in post.
And now we have a couple of Doctors,
brand new Doctorates of Education, and we congratulate
Commodore Sir Prime on his Doctor of Education
in Climate Change Studies, along with RS Bagwell
and Mike Schwitzer, better known as Baron Schwoe
of the Six Strings.
Congratulations, brand new Doctors of Education.
Sorry, the bird flu got the bird flu
got me.
The bird flu got me.
Oh, yeah.
How do you feel?
You were sick last show.
We both feel pretty bad.
I mean, you sounded good because you sounded
sick on the show like, I think, once.
John, I have been near death.
I've been without teeth.
I've been divorced twice.
And you've never heard about it on the
show.
That's just who I am, bro.
No, there was no such thing.
One time you did sound sick on the
show.
OK, no, a little jet lag.
But actually, we took the ivermectin and we
sailed through it.
And I recommend everybody we take ivermectin twice
a week.
It's a drop of a hat, apparently.
Well, we take it twice a week as
a prophylactic.
And I think it helped because I know
who I got this from.
I know who I got this thing from.
And now Christina has it.
But we did OK.
I mean, we had the jet lag.
We're flying around Europe.
So, you know, we are we, of course,
are super spreaders.
But in general, we take it on Thursdays
and Sundays, show days, just in case.
For my weight and height, I take 20
milligrams of ivermectin two times a week and
took an extra an extra six milligrams when
it hit me, which was after which is
a week ago and got through pretty good.
I mean, yeah, I just still some lingering
cough, but that's that's just what bird flu
does.
You know, it's OK.
So that is not medical advice.
It's just telling you what I know.
It's not medical advice and you should get
tested.
Get tested, everybody.
Yeah, big party going down on Monday.
New Year's Eve, Eve, Eve.
I like pizza, Steve.
That is the meetup on December 30th.
That's three years.
Eve is Tuesday.
New Year's Eve, Eve.
New Year's Eve, Eve, Eve.
We did this last show.
Oh, yeah.
You did this like every show off.
We do a TV.
Yeah, there's a TV.
Yes, that's bald, bald man brewing in Egan,
Minnesota.
And that's one of our Southwest pilots who
are organizing that.
Go and say hi.
Then on Thursday, our next show day, which
is January 2nd, Northern Wake, publical slave gathering
six o'clock at Saints and Scholars in
Raleigh, North Carolina.
We have many more meetups well into the
new year.
In fact, I even see Longview, Texas on
the list for June 29th.
Some of these things are planned well in
advance.
Some of them pop up later on.
And a reminder, what was the one we
needed to promote?
We have Colorado Springs on January 4th.
Rohnert Park, California, January 4th.
Yukon, Oklahoma on the 4th and Baton Rouge,
Louisiana on the 4th.
And of course, we all need to remember
that there is a meeting in Albany, California
meetup on February 1st, and John will be
there and kids will be running around.
That's the kind of meetups we like to
run over.
No, that was at the Mallard.
No kids.
Oh, no kids.
Keep your kids out of here.
If you'd like to learn more about the
meetups, and I recommend you go to at
least one, you can find information at noagendameetups
.com.
It is a great website.
Sir Daniel manages that for us.
Part of our time, talents and treasure.
We appreciate that very much.
Mimi always sends me the list.
We appreciate that.
Go to noagendameetups.com.
Find one near you.
If you can't find one, start one yourself.
It's easy and always a party.
Well, good news.
Good news.
You have four ISOs.
That's good news because I don't have any.
I do have one that someone sent me,
which is funny, but it's too long.
I just thought it was interesting and I'll
play it.
So guys, time to teleport you to the
ISO zone.
You can just use it for a jingle
for the ISO zone.
I had no idea that was out there.
So luckily you have four to choose from.
So I'm very happy about that.
Okay, let's start with Christmas.
Christmas was a little different.
Where do you get these?
Where do you get these from?
That one, it came from an NPR discussion
from some up talking characters.
And this woman says Christmas is a little
different, at least in my house.
That was pretty good.
It's pretty good.
Then we have, try this one.
Try this is, I think podcast, do a
podcast.
I could not have done better than that
podcast.
Not bad.
I like it.
Then we have so much.
Thank you so much.
It's my pleasure.
No, that's too muddy.
It is muddy.
Rejected.
And then great shows.
That was a year of great shows, boys.
Well, is that, that's not hard.
I mean, that's like, that's like written for
us.
Exactly.
That was a year of great shows, boys.
That is fantastic.
Where'd you get that from?
I don't remember.
Okay, good work.
And now, ladies and gentlemen, time for John
Cena Borak's tip of the day.
And sometimes Adam.
Created by Dana Brunetti.
That, by the way, is Sir, Baron Sir
Schwoo, who did that jingle for us.
That was pretty good.
Yeah.
Sir Schwoo knows what he's doing.
He's a musician.
Yeah, I wish, you know, we have a
lot of musicians who listen to the show
and not many of them contribute.
I mean, they contribute money, some of them,
but they don't contribute.
Well, Sir Schwoo is a very successful musician.
Most musicians are pretty much value for value
up shit creek without a power.
Well, you have some big shots too.
Yeah, well, these guys are big shots.
Okay, so this was kind of discussing after
the show, I think last time.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Can I just say one thing before I
forget?
I want to thank everybody for sending me,
and I put the links in the show
notes, links to baggage scales, which apparently Amazon
now has, even though I looked for them
a while back.
There's the digital luggage scale gift for traveler
suitcase, handheld weight scale, and the Clow mini
weight, 300 kilograms, industrial crane scale, digital hanging
scale blue, which is a little more expensive,
but you can also hang your meat on
it.
Well, I think that qualifies as a tip.
Yes, it's a tip.
It's a tip.
So links in the show notes.
So we talked about this a little bit,
and you said it should be tip of
the day, and I'm going to make it
tip of the day.
Tip of the day, which is the use
when you're buying wine, particularly Bordeaux, by the
way, but when you're buying wine, there's a
lot of these wines with little stickers on
them that say, oh, 91, 92 points, or
even better, is a small sticker that says
Macon, usually, which is from a big tasting,
the French do, and the stickers are either
gold, silver, or bronze colored, and these stickers
are all meaningful, and they're all accurate examples
of why you should maybe choose these wines.
If you see the stickers, all the wine
operations, Wine Enthusiast, and all these other guys,
they have these stickers, and they make them
available to the wineries, and so if the
wine gets a high score in some tasting,
they get to put the sticker on, and
I would say that they're generally accurate.
So if you see a wine with a
sticker on it...
It's not just marketing is what you're saying.
Yes, I'm saying they're worth paying attention to.
They're not just a bogus sticker that anyone
could put on, you know, like Instant Best
Seller, for example.
Oh, one of those.
It's not like one of those stickers, and
so it's a real sticker, and the ones
you, if you can see the ones that
are from French sources, including the Macon one,
which don't put point totals.
They put either the gold, silver, or bronze
sticker, and you stick to the gold ones
and kind of skip over the silver and
bronze ones.
Generally, I'd say the gold ones are more
accurate in terms of the wine being really
good, or if the sticker says 91 points,
and it should be over 90 nowadays because
of what I call bracket creep.
You know, these guys have been jacking up
the ratings on wines that really used to
be, I'd say, 15 years ago.
Today's 90-point wine would have been an
88.
It's very, it's just a common thing because
if you give the score 90, you give
the wine 91 points, you're probably getting closer
to being a good wine.
So I would stay with 91 as the
minimum.
But they're accurate, and people should pay attention
to them.
I always thought it was the calorie content
of the wine, but what can I say?
There it is, ladies and gentlemen.
Go to noagendafund.com or tipoftheday.net for
John's tip of the day.
And that concludes our year of broadcasts.
Another fine year it was, Dr. Dvorak.
Yes, it was good.
It was a good year.
A lot happened.
And we look forward to another year of
media deconstruction with you, our producers, who really,
really make a lot of it happen.
And we really do appreciate that.
We have end-of-show mixes by Dee's
Laughs.
And we have the Jones Brothers Syndicate with
a twofer.
We've got Steve Jones with an end-of
-show mix and Neil Jones with an end
-of-show mix to get any better.
Up next on the No Agenda stream or
your modern podcast app or trollroom.io, stay
tuned for Larry's Christmas Ghost.
That is that Larry show, the deepest voice
in podcasting.
It's a good show, good guy, solid man.
Love to have him coming up after our
podcast.
And I'm coming to you from the heart
of the Texas Hill Country.
Remember us at noagendadonations.com.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
And we say once again, Happy New Year,
everybody.
Have a good time watching that ball drop.
Until Thursday, adios mofos, ahooey hooey, and such.
We're living in a clown show.
I laugh.
Like, we're driving through, everything smells like weed.
It's nothing but pot shops and fashion dance
places.
If you've got a drive-thru, a couple,
don't forget co-casters on the way.
About the news and leaving clues.
Thinking that I'm clever.
Working three jobs, liking living color.
Headly crooks, brainwashing.
It's not about their butt.
More like smelly.
Another Tim Hortons being built.
Just look around.
I'm not counting, but we are all Brampton
now.
TTC, the Metrolinx, it stinks.
See, I'm the father who my faith is
in.
I never worry about a jinx.
Yeah.
TTC, the Metrolinx.
I mean, it stinks.
What happened were things that have never happened.
Let's talk about the fact that President Trump
incited an erection.
Maybe that too.
Yeah, you can talk about that too, I
guess.
Maybe we should talk about that too.
While the events of the erection...
Excuse me, excuse me.
After 40 years, I can't believe I just
got on TV.
...inciting or assisting in an erection.
Donald John Trump incited the erection.
The erection.
Does the President of the United States believe
that former President Trump incited an erection?
Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me.
Who has been impeached for inciting the erection.
He did incite an erection on the Capitol.
If I have to embrace someone just inciting
an erection...
He, uh, worked to incite an erection.
...an erection.
No comparison to inciting an erection.
Into inciting an erection.
He feels the President has incited an erection.
Someone just incited an erection.
For inciting that deadly erection.
And remember that we just had this bird
flu scare, which is not over.
But oh, it wasn't in the ground beef,
oh.
The USDA says the negative results tonight confirm
the meat supply is safe.
Thank God, it might be in the milk,
but it's in the ground beef.
This morning, the FDA insists the nation's milk
supply is safe.
But when people, you know, people listen very
poorly to the news, and they hear breaking,
breaking, breaking, ground beef, uh, uh, uh, bird
flu.
That is the first known case of a
human getting bird flu from a mammal in
the U.S. I guarantee you that people
are like, well, maybe you should just have
some chicken tonight.
You cannot get this strain of bird flu
from eating poultry.
Yeah, man.
Unless I'm sure I want to have some
grits.
I heard war on chicken.
Bird flu has halted production at the nation's
largest producer of fresh eggs.
I heard something about ground beef.
I don't like it.
And they're all jumping in on it.
Meantime, there are reports a bottlenose dolphin in
Florida has died from bird flu, possibly the
first dolphin in the U.S. to die
of the virus.
Thank you, science.
We have science.
I know you love science.
Silent free these people.
It's alive, it's alive, it's alive, it's alive.
That was a year of great shows, boys.