Who's Dynamite?
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's November 21st, 2024.
This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media
assassination episode 1714.
This is no agenda.
Available for AGBM.
Broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas
hill country here in FEMA region number six.
In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley where we've got
Netanyahu, ICBMs, Matt Gaetz.
What's going on?
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning.
I'm glad you asked breaking at this hour,
John.
Breaking at this hour.
No agenda news can exclusively reveal that Matt
Gaetz has withdrawn from the attorney general position.
Yes, as expected.
Yes.
Gee, didn't we say that would happen?
Well, here's the scenario the way I see
it.
Matt, they definitely wanted to get Rubio in.
And they have to replace him with somebody.
As a senator?
As senators.
So you replace him with Matt Gaetz.
But Matt Gaetz says, hey, I got this
investigation going on.
It's going to be an embarrassment.
You're not going to be able to put
me into Rubio's spot.
Because he wants Rubio.
He wants Matt Gaetz in there to counter.
And you're going to see this.
I guarantee you're going to see them on
the same committees.
Matt Gaetz and the creep from California.
The turtle head guy.
Oh, who slept with the Chinese spy.
No, no.
That's a congressman.
We're talking about senators.
Our new senator.
Schiff.
Adam Schiff.
Schiff.
Okay.
So they need a guy to argue with
Adam Schiff.
So they're going to want to put Gaetz
in there.
So now Gaetz can't get the job with
this investigation going on.
So here's the deal.
And I think Trump, because of the four
years he's been spending scheming, he can come
up with these things faster than he used
to.
He goes, okay, we're going to pick you
for attorney general.
You can quit the house before they release
the report.
There'll be a big kerfuffle.
And then all of a sudden, just before
all shit hits the fan, you quit the
denomination.
Go back to Florida.
You're not in the house anymore.
And then you can be moved into Rubio's
spot before anybody knows what the hell is
going on.
And you're going to be the next senator
from Florida.
I like the theory.
I will add a little twist to that.
Something that I thought would come up in
the combo, but it didn't.
Because I immediately tried to get a clip
of Matt Gaetz resigning.
Oh, I'm sure everyone's all over this.
Breaking, breaking at this hour.
And I couldn't get a clip.
But I did get this.
It's unclear what happens next, though, to your
question of does it matter.
Because Matt Gaetz, remember, was elected to serve
in the 119th Congress.
We are right now in the 118th Congress.
The 119th Congress doesn't take power until January.
And when Matt Gaetz resigned, he said that
he does not intend to take his seat
in the 119th Congress.
But he didn't resign from that Congress because
he can't.
Because that Congress doesn't exist yet.
So if Matt Gaetz wanted to come back
to Congress and serve in his seat come
January, in theory, he could try to do
that.
We do not know if he wants to.
I'm checking in with sources close to Gaetz
right now to figure out that exact question.
What is next here for Matt Gaetz?
But if he wanted to join Congress again
come January, he technically could, Diane.
Oh, technically, yeah, he technically could.
So, well, you know what?
You know what?
It doesn't matter.
It's fun.
Everybody can run around with their hair on
fire, you know, talking about it.
And the culture war economy is, oh, boy,
oh, this.
The Trump.
I have a supercut.
I have a supercut of hair on fire.
This week, Trump has been revealing his cabinet
chock full of loyalists, sycophants and perennial bootlickers.
Matt Gaetz is literally the worst pick in
the world for attorney general.
Significant concerns, horror even.
Somebody said to me today, I can't think
of any single individual who'd be more damaging
to public health than RFK.
He's not going to receive a very warm
welcome from the career folks there.
We've seen people today, our fellow reporters crying,
hugging in the hallways.
Pete Hegseth, Trump's proposed secretary of defense, defends
war criminals and displays tattoos associated with white
nationalism and Christian nationalism.
Are completely incompetent, who most American business owners
wouldn't hire to run a taco stand.
The former and future president is moving quickly
to fill the clown car and round out
his cabinet before he changes his mind and
fires them all.
If you've been accused of being weird and
dangerous, it seems like Trump is doubling down
on that.
So television, I'll just call it what it
is.
Television has not taken a moment, not a
beat, not just let's step back.
Well, a couple happens.
Let's just step back for a second and
evaluate what has happened here.
We failed in our mission to discredit Hitler,
to prevent him from ascending his throne because
he's literally a king now.
And it doesn't matter.
Let's just keep it going.
And you know what?
People are falling right in.
Oh, it's great.
Oh, we have more stuff to put on
social media.
Ah, it's groovy.
So much that it's overflowing to new social
media.
Blue sky.
I had a thing about blue sky.
This was funny.
Where was it?
Here it is.
Blue sky safety.
They have a safety team over there, John.
Just so you know, if you go to
blue sky, if you leave the evil X
and go to blue sky, they have a
safety team.
And they said in the past 24 hours,
we've received more than 42,000 reports, an
all time high for one day.
We're receiving about 3,000 reports an hour.
To put that into context, in all of
2023.
Oh, and then it cuts off for some
reason.
Why is this?
So they didn't even receive that many reports
in all of 2023.
Yeah.
I mean, it's including child sexual abuse material.
I bet there's all kinds of stuff.
And because they have AI doing most of
the work over there.
So it's going to be a disaster.
Now, the other thing is that I found
interesting was somebody reposted it on Twitter.
Of course, the thing about Twitter is that,
you know, all these maniacs just grab stuff
from every place else and post it on
Twitter.
You like TikTok?
Yeah, we got it for you.
You like blue sky?
We got it.
Here you go.
Put it on Twitter.
And so they put it on Twitter.
It's like a big aggregator.
Rob Reiner, you know, has always been threatening
to quit Twitter.
I think he still has an account there.
But now he went blue sky, blue sky.
So he goes to blue sky.
So they find a tweet or tweet or
whatever, a posting on blue sky from Rob
Reiner, who's now complaining that the kind of
creeps that are on Twitter are now over
on blue sky giving him grief.
Gee, surprise.
The hate is so much.
I can't stand it.
Get off of all of that.
None of it's good.
These are digital towers of Babel filled with
A.I. slop in their stairwells.
It's all no good.
But everybody, including my friends, all in.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, Megyn Kelly.
Oh, transgender bathroom in the Capitol.
It goes on and on and on.
Transgender.
Oh, I'll get to that.
But.
That's a classic.
In a rare moment, Lulu over there at
CNN, Lourdes, but everyone calls her Lulu.
She had a rare moment.
I don't think she realized Lulu.
She's we talked about her.
She's the possible spook.
Lourdes.
She's a possible spook is CNN.
What am I saying?
Let me write that down for an idea.
Yeah, come on.
We talked about her.
Lulu.
I don't know who it might have, but
I'll get it for you.
Garcia Navarro.
Lulu Garcia Navarro, of course, also known as
Lulu.
Don't ring a bell.
So Lulu.
Well, they call her Lulu.
Lulu's on the Burnett woman's show.
Six million dollars a year.
Yeah.
Six million dollars a year, we're told.
And she has a rare moment of perfectly,
perfectly describing Trump's appointee strategy, which we deconstructed
two shows ago, I think, of having a
front person who makes all the noise, the
lightning rod, and have someone in the background
who does all the work.
So perfect is the first buddy.
Elon, also known as the modern day Edison
and Vivek, Vivek, I should say Vivek.
Vivek as in cake.
Yeah, people keep saying, you guys, you're always
so precise about pronunciation and words you shouldn't
say, but it's Vivek, so you should say
it right.
Yes, this is right.
You know, we've trained our producers to be
the way we are, which is sticklers for
this sort of thing.
And so now they become sticklers and they
give us grief.
There you go.
So listen to Lulu as she figures it
out.
I still don't think she realizes exactly what
she's figured out.
So look, take a step back.
There's a lot of people who get put
into these jobs who haven't overseen much, right?
So I'm not going to say the fact
that he hasn't overseen something that large is
disqualifying in and of itself.
But the history here is relevant.
The history is relevant.
When I was listening right now, I thought
that what was going to be announced was
Dr. Phil was going to be the surgeon
general.
So at least we're not there yet.
Yet.
But listen, what is happening here is this.
We are now in Donald Trump's TV show.
And this is the world we're living in
now.
He is casting the characters that he wants
to play in his administration.
And the point behind this is actually a
serious one.
They're not just good looking people.
They're very effective communicators who actually are recognizable
to the American public.
If you think about why Donald Trump thinks
he won this election, it's because he was
able to have a consistent message.
People listen to him.
He is recognizable.
And he was palling around with people like
Elon Musk.
He is putting people in these positions that
people know and that can sell his policies.
So whatever he does, there are going to
be people who are able to go out
into the manosphere, into podcasts, on cable news,
and talk about it in a way that
people will relate to.
And I think that's what he's up to.
So I like that she says Donald Trump
thinks he won because of this strategy.
I don't know why she thinks he won.
But this is the strategy.
Absolutely.
Well, if she's a spook, he won because
this whole thing was a scam.
It was set up to win.
It had nothing to do with whatever strategy.
And she knew that.
That's why she said that.
By the way, are we in the manosphere?
We're in the manosphere.
Welcome to the manosphere.
The manosphere.
I wrote that down as a show title.
Manosphere.
I think it might have been overused by
now.
I mean, yeah.
Manosphere.
Oh, I'll put it down as a possibility.
Manosphere.
So, yeah.
Abby, your girl, Abby.
Abby Phillip.
You had clips of her on the last
show.
Abby Phillip from CNN.
Yeah.
The black newsreader.
Yeah.
So, she was at the Harvard School Institute
of Politics on the panel.
On the panel.
And she's- Boy, you really got to
be- I don't want to say you
have to be hard up for attention.
I've never been invited.
If the Harvard Institute of Politics- You
wouldn't go?
Of course I would.
Do I get a per diem?
Do I get travel expenses?
Then I'm not going.
If you're not going to pay for my
travel expenses and a per diem, I'm not
going to go.
You should get an honorarium at least, not
a per diem.
That would be good.
So, she also comes very close to understanding
what's going on.
And on one hand, I'm delighted because I
love seeing people waking up and, you know,
kind of like Anna Kasparian and Jillian Michaels.
I love seeing these people wake up.
On the other hand, it'll ruin the show
if they figure it out.
I have observed- You know, I know
exactly what you're thinking.
And I agree with the basic thought, but
the hordes of people that aren't going to
figure it out are going to be the
Rob Reiners and the rest of them.
They're always going to be around to keep
the show going.
I have observed that elites increasingly talk only
to each other and come to believe that
because there is consensus among them, that that
consensus is shared broadly.
And there are not enough voices that are
confident enough to disagree and to present alternatives.
And we, as a society, need to find
better ways to uplift divergent voices.
Otherwise, we will be victims of groupthink.
And there is an activist class- I
think this is particularly acute in the Democratic
Party right now.
There is an activist class in the Democratic
Party that is multiracial, multi-ethnic.
It is diverse, but it's an activist class.
And so because of that, they're not able
to see outside of that.
And Republicans had the same problem before Trump.
The heritage foundations of the world, et cetera,
right?
They had the same issue, fundamental issue, but
Trump kind of broke them out of it.
The Democrats are in that place now where
they have to break out of it.
Yeah, they need someone to break them out
of it.
Not that they have one, but they need
to be broken out of that elitist culture.
I love the self-realization.
I think it's healthy.
It's good for them.
Why do they need anyone to break them
out of it?
They were doing fine with it.
They're still doing fine with it.
You just want the show.
They lost an elite.
I mean, I'll take their side.
Okay.
They lost an election, barely.
It could have gone either way, as everyone
noticed.
Yeah, they did win everything, but it's beside
the point.
They'll be corrected in the midterms, and the
Democrats will be right back where they were,
more or less.
At least they'll have enough people in Congress
in one house or the other to stop
Trump, and then they can impeach him again,
because it'd be good to be a third
time would be good.
And the elitist approach that they're using, which
is the right approach, because they're elitists.
If you're an elitist, it's not like you're
going to change.
Well, there's elitist Republicans.
Yeah, there's tons of them.
Yeah.
So what are you saying?
I don't think anything.
I think the few people that are on
the fringes that are, you know, that for
some reason, like Julian Michaels is a good
example, that just got fed up with one
thing or another, or Kasparian, who only got
fed up because she got condemned for being
a racist when she wasn't.
Yeah.
If it wasn't for those little moments of
mistakes made by the elitist, because they're idiots.
They're not elitist at all, really.
If you want elitist, you know, you got
Jacob Rothschild.
There's an elitist.
Is he still alive?
Didn't he just die?
No, he died.
He died, unfortunately.
But the Rothschild family is, you know, that's
real elitism.
It's not, you know, and they're not, they
don't act like this.
These guys are phonies.
They're just academic elitists and they're full of
crap and they're not going to change.
Why would they?
What?
No, no, you're right.
I have a podcast clip.
If you want to hear some dumb, I
have a new category in my clip folder
called Dumb Dems.
Dumb Dems.
These are Dumb Dems.
And I'm not against the, I'm not against
any anyone's political views per se, but these
are Dumb Dems.
And this is the Slate Political Gab Fest
podcast.
And so they're discussing...
It's from Slate?
Yes, from Slate.
Washington Post.
Yes.
And so they're discussing this very issue.
And it's incredible that the young woman who
is going to explain what is going on,
she has the most Dumb Dem vocal fry
I've ever heard as she explains this.
If you need to interrupt and stop it,
let me know.
Emily, last question on this topic.
Do you think, as some have argued, I
think Ezra Klein has argued this, that the
Democrats are a party that roots out heretics
and doesn't look for converts?
Or is that actually true?
Does the party need to have a kind
of broad, encompassing, welcoming attitude that it doesn't
have?
I think that right now the party is
associated with a lot of purity tests.
Mike Peska of the podcast The Gist wrote
a piece in The Atlantic this week comparing
the Democratic Party to HR departments, talking about
them as like being the sort of fussy
place of compliance and language policing and rules,
none of which is a whole lot of
fun, even though it's sometimes necessary.
And I thought that was a good metaphor
for capturing what doesn't feel broadly welcoming.
I think to a lot of people as
we're thinking about this today, and I was
writing, how do we describe deportation policies?
And my natural instinct, maybe it's because I'm
badly trained on decades of false language, is
to say illegal immigrants or even illegal aliens.
And I'm like, oh, but am I allowed
to say that anymore?
I better not say that.
I should say undocumented.
And am I supposed to say undocumented immigrants?
Undocumented.
Do you see the struggle?
These people?
Do you see the the torment?
No.
Torment.
Great.
The torment.
People undocumented.
They're tormented by their own set of procedure
procedures.
They have this rule based party.
It's rule based.
Rule based.
And you've got this, this, you got to
do this.
You got to use pronouns.
You got to do that.
Yeah.
You got to wear a badge that says
I'm a him, her.
You got to do that.
It's all these rules.
And it's like this.
It's like the bureaucracy just boiled into like
a party.
People undocumented.
And I was like, I don't even know
what to do.
And I feel like there's a whole bunch
of GabFest listeners are going to judge me
based on whatever language I've used.
So it's obviously, that's a very extremely tiny
example.
But it did occur to me today.
It's not that tiny.
I mean, I think there is, to me,
something troubling about calling a person illegal.
Like they know if that bothers you.
Of course.
But I do agree with you that deciding
that that means that you have to excommunicate
someone is a different step.
From hearing it and wondering whether that's really
a good idea or not.
I had to get the fry in there.
The fry.
So now that's all good and fine.
But if you are trying to break out
of the mold, and you may have the
other motives such as, oh my God, they're
going to sell our station.
And you're like.
I have a bunch of clips.
Yeah.
I know.
I'm leading you into it.
Thank you.
They're going to sell the station.
I have to before you go in this.
I had to turn on CNBC this morning.
I wanted to see what's going on anyway.
Yeah.
And so they're all freaked out about it
because I'll tell you this.
If you want to put a name on
the list of someone who's going to come
out of this just fine.
Is this Kelly Evans woman?
She's the one who's the most talented presenter
on CNBC.
Person of all very good.
Is she the blonde?
No, no, no.
She's a brunette.
She's black hair.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, she and she is just she never
flubs.
She's fast on her feet.
She knows what she's doing.
She is a she should be one of
the nightly news anchors.
She might be just a bit too young.
And they may have put a few years
on her by putting her in something else.
But she's the one who come out ahead
on this whole thing, even though you can
tell she's worried sick.
They're always at CNBC.
And I think CNBC got the short end
of this deal.
You're moving ahead.
You're moving ahead too fast.
OK, OK, go on.
You take it.
Stop me first.
First, we have to stick with MSNBC, the
weakest sister of the bunch.
And Joe and Mika went to see President
elect Trump and talk with them.
I actually have clips, but I don't think
I'll play those because they're just so annoying.
And they're like, oh, well, you know, we're
not doing this to kiss the ring.
Well, yeah, that's not what Rosie O'Donnell thought.
So Mika and Joe went down to Mar
-a-Lago to kiss the ring.
It's the last time I ever watched Morning
Joe.
Oh, no.
Period.
End of statement.
Unreal.
For months, you were telling us he's the
worst thing that could happen to this country
and democracy.
And then you go kiss his ring.
Despicable.
Despicable you.
Both of you.
Despicable you.
So what is she got a band in
the house there?
Where's that music coming from?
What is she?
She's doing a this is a tick tock
video and she's got an orchestra.
What is this music?
No, she's she's the kind of woman who
has that playing in her in her Manhattan
apartment.
You know, boy, man, from the because, you
know, I, I help, you know, she has
12 Emmys.
Do you know that I helped her get
her first job?
Pray tell that we're all now we're all
stopped to show us stop for a story.
Rosie O'Donnell was doing comedy stand up at
it was in West Orange made the name.
It's something like chuckles.
Obviously, I can't remember.
Yuck, yuck.
I can't remember what the name of it
was.
And Steve leads, who also lives in New
Jersey.
Steve is guy who hired me when I
was still in in Amsterdam.
Steve is still with us.
A good guy.
I talked to him maybe twice a year.
And so Steve had seen her.
He's like, she would be great for VH1
as a because, you know, MTV own VH1
as a VJ.
And so he brought her in and I
had to I think she the way it
was set up is she would have to
interview me and then do some segments and
which she did.
And, you know, she made fun of me
and it was kind of cute.
And she was back then.
Rosie O'Donnell had a pretty good stick.
It was pretty funny.
And she got hired for VH1 as a
VJ.
And that's how she started.
So I'll take some blame for it.
You should.
You should take all the blame.
So I'm going to lead you into your
into your clips.
First, with a with a little background.
So this is about the Comcast spin off.
And here's a I got this article from
where is this?
This is from CNBC itself.
There you go.
So just some data that's in here.
Cord cutting continues to impact the traditional TV
business.
Comcast lost three hundred and sixty five thousand
customers during the third quarter.
The industry overall lost roughly four million traditional
paying customers in the first six months of
the year.
Still traditional TV networks, TV networks remain cash
cows for media business.
Comcast reported in October that third quarter revenue
for its media segment, which is comprised of
the TV network, was nearly up 37 percent
to eight point two three billion, largely due
to the Olympics.
Without the summer games, revenue was up five
percent.
Disney executives recently said they do not plan
to separate their TV networks anytime soon, noting
the complexities of doing so, but they kind
of would like to do so.
So I got a clip from Bill O
'Reilly, who was still a blow hard.
I have that clip in my series.
Well, can I can I play it first?
The one with Cuomo?
Yeah.
You want me to play it now, just
since I have it racked up?
Or do you want to do your series?
You know, that's interesting.
Yes.
You have the whole thing.
Minute 40.
My O'Reilly clip is 248.
I play.
I have the whole thing.
OK, then why don't you go?
Which is interruptible.
You can interrupt.
Yeah.
Go into yours.
Do you want me to play that one
first?
Well, no, because I want to I have
the same clip, but I have the I
have a longer version, which may be more.
Yeah, but do this.
Do your series, whatever you want to do.
I'm glad you brought this up because I
didn't know if I should put the O
'Reilly thing at the beginning or I should
put it at the end of the series.
But since you brought it up, let's start
playing that clip that you talked about.
He's he's on Cuomo on news.
Cuomo, who is still a dope, by the
way, he's just a dope.
He doesn't know anything.
I think he even says, oh, I only
know what the news says.
OK, news boy.
Exactly.
I agree.
I agree with that.
Yes, he's kind of a he's just a
you know, he's a he's a percent.
He's a presentable male.
He's just dope.
Comcast said you two were going to have
to try to mend some cliche fences and
you two are going to go in there
and you're going to try.
He's talking about Joe and Mika here.
Yes, he's talking about Joe and Mika.
Going.
Yeah.
And if you if this clip is interrupted,
there's a spot where they talk about Sonny
Hoskins.
Yeah, that's important, too.
That's where you're going to stop.
I think you have.
Yeah, well, you're going to stop it.
OK, I to tamp it down because Comcast
knew the next day they were going to
announce that MSNBC is vapor.
That is a huge media story.
Why is it vapor?
Just because they're putting them in the spitting
off a bunch of spin off.
There is a spin off company.
There's no spin off that.
See, you buy the propaganda, Cuomo.
Oh, OK.
See what I mean?
I'm just saying what's being reported.
By the way, I don't know what O
'Reilly is talking about here, but there is
a spin off and there are executives moving
over and it will be its own entity.
It is technically what's the name of it?
Spin Co.
No, really?
You believe that really is it called spin?
You're kidding me.
I'm not getting a spin.
Co.
That's like new Co.
I mean, you're dead.
So you're dead when you're spun off into
spin Co LLC.
All right.
But how do what do you know?
Yeah, I know.
But why would you believe what's being reported?
You want the real story?
Yes, please.
So they're uncoupling their word Comcast MSNBC from
NBC News.
That means MSNBC is no resources at all.
Not they're not going to be able to
pay these people millions of dollars, racial matter,
whatever she's making.
NBC News is saying we don't want you
around.
Why?
Because NBC News's numbers, Lester Holt and The
Today Show are catastrophe because half the country
equates NBC News with MSNBC and they won't
watch.
So NBC is desperately trying to save the
mothership of information and they have to throw
MSNBC overboard.
They're not putting anything into MSNBC.
They want to sell it.
So where's Georgie Soros now?
Georgie's buying radio stations.
You can get MSNBC for nothing.
OK, first of all, weak to say Georgie's
buying radio stations.
We know what's really going on there.
But the radio station is very different from
this MSNBC without the cable network.
So that's a little weak from O'Reilly.
Why, why, why?
I'm going to talk to you like this.
Let me tell you, the spinoff of the
cable companies are suffering dwindling.
Why?
Well, that's because that's a very annoying thing
he does.
This is you.
You had some comments about Cuomo.
I'll have a comment about O'Reilly.
I think he's a blowhard and a prick.
OK, they'll give it to you.
They don't want any more of this.
Why?
Because it's hateful.
Not because it's so far left.
The whole NBC Comcast hierarchy is far left,
but it's hateful.
You see, I disagree with this, too.
I mean, not that they're hateful, but if
hateful works, which it did for a long
time, they wouldn't putting it and be putting
into spinco.
They'd be giving him medals.
But it's just not working anymore.
They were, you know, when this little history
lesson out there, you have to remember that
MSNBC, which I had worked for for a
while.
I was there.
I was there at the launch before they
had before they had.
Before Princess Diana died, that's when it changed.
It was it was kind of a normal.
It was Microsoft and MSNBC is supposed to
be a tech channel.
It was Microsoft.
Yeah.
Microsoft NBC.
Yes.
Yeah.
And then eventually NBC just bought Microsoft out,
but they kept the name.
And then it became a kind of a
gossipy channel because the princess died.
And then it still was languishing.
And so the guy who I have to
say he probably made it what it was
during the Bush administration was Keith Olbermann.
Yes.
Good point.
He came on with a hateful.
Yeah.
Show.
And he and he's a hateful guy, very
hateful, and he he's the one who trained
Rachel Maddow.
And he mentored her to be the jerk
that she is, and she's the one who
trained the other guy, the the the guy
with the glasses.
Yeah, yeah.
Chris Hayes.
She trained him.
So he's the third generation of hater.
Chris the queen.
And so so so it has a checkered
past, but it really, really got its start
during the hateful era of Olbermann.
And and I'd just like to say to
trolls and I've seen this floating around and
also good friends of mine text me this.
Hey, Elon might buy MSNBC and then make
sure to do a good channel.
MSNBC by itself is not worth anything without
the distribution.
The problem is the cord cutting.
That is the problem.
You know, what people watch these channels the
most right now is on YouTube TV.
YouTube TV is the biggest distributor of what
used to be cable programming by far.
For good reason.
Yeah, you get unlimited DVRs.
It's cheaper.
Tons of reasons for it.
I don't even know if they're making money
on it.
I don't think I can't believe that they
are.
I don't think they don't care that DVR
thing.
You could break them.
Yeah, here we go.
But it's hateful.
They hate Trump.
They hate people who vote for Trump.
Everybody knows that.
And you know what's next?
The view.
All right.
I'll stop it right there.
And this is why I kept this clip.
I didn't even know you had it.
I missed it in your lineup.
But I did see you had the Sonny
Hoskins reading.
So I'll let him intro what you had
to do.
Well, let him finish his thought because he
mentions this and then we'll cut to the
Sonny Hoskins.
I want to thank one of our producers
for sending me.
I've seen these Hoskins things a couple of
times.
I never recorded him.
Somebody sent him to me.
I said, oh, I should have recorded him.
I can tell because they're a little below
your level.
They won't be the same.
I noticed right away.
Oh, you didn't make that clip.
Someone else did.
All right, here we go.
Yeah, you can tell from the waveform.
Sure.
Yeah.
ABC News is going to have to cut
ties with the view.
And you saw that today or yesterday when
Sonny Hassan had to read a legal statement
in the middle of a segment.
The lawyers got in or get whoopie Goldberg's
ear and said, we're bringing a statement in
on a teleprompter.
She reads it.
All right.
She reads.
So now this is actually quite funny because
Hoskins is off the deep end anyway.
Yeah.
And so she is.
She she goes off and she basically slanders
on the on the air gates.
Is this the first clip?
The view.
Yeah, clip one.
OK.
And within the Department of Justice, you have
the sex crimes unit, which is what I
was a part of child sex crimes and
child trafficking.
How could you nominate someone with allegations of
child trafficking across or trafficking across state lines
and having sex with a 17 year old?
My understanding further on in the interview, they
discussed the fact that once he finds out
that she's 17, he stops having sex with
her.
Well, statutory sex doesn't require you to know
what age the person is.
It only requires the age.
Oh, man, she's just basing this on hearsay,
no?
Yeah.
Hearsay.
And the other thing is, you first of
all, you have to kind of visualize what
what is he having sex in a in
a room full of people?
I don't know.
Hey, she's always she's only 17, Matt.
You better get off her.
Oh, OK.
I mean, it just doesn't make any sense.
But so within five minutes.
Oh, this is the same show.
Yeah, this is within five minutes, five minutes
after she said this.
Wow.
Somebody who obviously put a bug in Rosie's
ear and they put it on the property.
Not Rosie, whoopee, whoopee, not Rosie, whoopee.
Oh, that's funny.
I said Rosie.
Yeah.
Whoopee whoopee hears that.
Oh, you better take care of this.
And so Sonny Hoskins reads from a prompter.
What's the next clip?
She reads.
But it's the look on her face.
She is so steamed up that she has
to do this because it's humiliating.
It's it's basically humiliation that she's doing this.
But here she goes.
Sonny, you have a legal.
I do have a legal.
No, thank you, whoopee.
Matt Gaetz has long denied all allegations calling
the claims, quote, invented.
And saying in a statement to ABC News
that this false smear following a three year
criminal investigation should be viewed with great skepticism
that DOJ investigation was closed with no charges
being brought.
We'll be right back.
Now, do you think that Gaetz can still
go after her because of the of the
read?
Like your read was not serious.
You still slandered me.
I mean, would that be possible?
I think it's possible.
I don't think it's going to happen, but
it's possible because then more than one or
two commentators have said this.
Oh, really?
You just said you're number three saying that,
hey, this is not a sincere apology by
any means, because she was just her jaw
clenched as she read this.
And she was not a happy camper.
Do you want to go back to O
'Reilly or are we good?
Do we need to go back to O
'Reilly?
No.
Yeah.
Go back to O'Reilly because it does
get pretty good.
But it's hateful.
Oh, hold on.
They hate Trump.
And you saw that today or yesterday when
Sonny Hassan had to read a legal statement
in the middle of a segment.
The lawyers got in her get whoopie Goldberg's
ear and said, we're bringing a statement in
on a teleprompter.
She reads it.
So it is over for these far left
networks.
Done.
Never coming back.
Dracula's stake in the heart.
Who benefits?
News Nation may.
But CNN, which is on the ropes, too,
will probably get some MSNBC viewers.
There you go.
What do you think of that?
Well, I'm certainly not going to accuse him
of not making sense.
You know, I disagree.
It's the problem is the cord cutting and
the expenses.
Is that so?
No, I'm I.
Yes.
In fact, when you listen to.
Well, here's this one more clip in the
series.
This is NBC spinoffs is an NPR version
of the event.
Yeah, got it.
Well, company Comcast says it will spin off
many of its networks that were once at
the center of the entertainment giants offerings comes
as people are increasingly trading their cable TV
subscriptions for streaming services like Netflix and Hulu.
Comcast will spin off USA, Oxygen, E, sci
fi and golf channels, as well as CNBC
and MSNBC.
Yeah, the CNBC thing is rough for them.
I like CNBC.
That's kind of rough.
They're getting a CNBC.
Well, it's very expensive.
They're going to take this very expensive.
And why do they keep Bravo and not
CNBC?
Because Bravo is a cable channel.
It's not over.
The Bravo is a super moneymaker.
I guess so.
Oh, yeah.
The franchise that they have with Real Housewives
and all that stuff, it's it's massive.
Now, that's really real.
That's that's just huge.
But the logic, I'm just saying the logic
is not a cord cutting.
I mean, Bravo does rely on cable.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But but they got to keep something.
And CNBC, that's got to be so expensive.
That's, you know, whenever you're doing live stuff,
that's expensive right there.
It's just expensive.
So the salaries need to come down.
We need new talent.
If you and I were doing it, you
know, and I think that one of the
top bosses of NBC is going to run
the spin spin co.
Or maybe yes, the guy who actually had
the he had MSNBC under his wing already.
OK, and they just get them moving him
out with the with the rest of it
now.
But this problem is not just television, the
Washington Post.
And this was was this actually an article
in The Post?
This was an article.
No, New York, New York, The New York
Magazine.
So there was a meeting.
There was a meeting at The Washington Post.
Even before 250,000 digital readers unsubscribed, I'm
unsubscribing Bezos from The Washington Post in protest
in protest.
The paper was on track to lose as
at least as much money as it lost
last year.
Seventy seven million.
A deputy manager editor shared the figure in
a recent meeting with reporters and editors per
multiple sources.
The editor did not say what the added
impact of the non endorsement exodus would be.
So it's going to be even more mind
blowing.
One staffer put it.
The level of anger is through the roof
and fear is also through the roof.
There's huge concern that Bezos is going to
pull the plug.
Yeah, well, he's not going to pull the
plug on the on the national newspaper.
Elon, you should buy Washington Post.
Elon, buy buy MSNBC and The Washington Post.
Elon, go ahead, Elon.
Please.
MSNBC staffers in a panic, in a panic.
So it's the changing landscape.
We knew the Internet would do this eventually.
We just had to wait a quarter of
a century.
But here it is.
Here it is.
It did take longer than you think.
Oh, goodness.
We were we were popping the champagne corks
in ninety nine like, oh, it's going to
be the end of it.
Well, it'll be over.
What were we thinking?
All right.
So I think we're done with with with
the M5M.
The next thing that we need to move
on to, because there's just such fear and
uncertainty and oh, yes, doubt that has crept
in.
And are we in World War three?
And what are we doing?
And Biden's going out with a bang.
And here is a short introductory clip.
In a big reversal, President Biden will now
let Ukraine use long range missiles supplied by
the U.S. to hit inside Russia.
Until now, the president had resisted this position,
concerned it could escalate Russia's war in Ukraine
into something even larger.
Kelly O'Donnell is traveling with the president in
Brazil.
And Kelly, this move coming as President Biden
only has a couple of months left in
office seems meant to send a message.
Exactly right, Hallie.
Good evening.
This is a notable shift in policy.
Two U.S. officials tell NBC News the
Biden administration is giving Ukraine the green light
to use American made long range weapons for
limited strikes inside Russia.
Until now, President Biden had restricted the use
of American made weapons to the Ukrainian battlefield
to prevent a wider war.
But the president is also alarmed by North
Korea sending thousands of its own soldiers to
help Russia.
And given the sensitivity of this change and
military operations, the White House and the Pentagon
are not commenting publicly on this.
So there's a couple of things that bothered
me right away.
First of all, Biden's roaming around there in
South America.
And by the way, it's not Biden.
It's daddy long legs.
He's jumping around.
He's got the aviators on.
Won't talk to the press.
Won't won't say anything.
There's why I liked it when he walked
into the jungle.
Did you hear the news?
The media was so desperate to get a
quote.
They're yelling at him.
Yeah.
Here, listen to this.
Yeah, you know, it just doesn't come through.
I had that clip and it was just
I said it's not you can't hear it.
I'm sure the audience.
Well, I did it.
I did it.
It is funny because she's screaming her head
off and he won't even acknowledge her existence.
He's just because you're right.
It's daddy long legs.
Is that other guy?
So there's a number of issues.
One, the story is based as far as
I can tell on reporting from Associated Press.
And so I was able to trace it
back to that.
And here's what they report.
President Joe Biden has authorized Ukraine to use
U.S. supplied missiles to strike deeper inside
Russia.
They're not saying attack comes here.
Easing limitations on the longer range weapons as
Russia deploys thousands of North Korean troops to
reinforce its war, according to a U.S.
official and three other people familiar with the
matter.
So there is zero publication of what's going
on here.
You know, there's nothing in the register.
There's nothing on WhiteHouse.gov. We're just accepting
that the media has told us this is
taking place.
And we have zero evidence of we got
all kinds of videos of of shooting, shooting
cannons and tanks.
And but we have no North Korea, the
North Korean dudes running around 10,000 of
them, apparently 10,000 of them.
I don't see that.
There's some good, funny reports about the North
Koreans shooting at the Russians, though.
It's very humorous.
Well, and then there's confusion because Ukraine has
other long range missiles which aren't from the
U.S. Tonight, a new escalation video circulating
online appears to show massive explosions rocking Russia's
Kursk region.
The Wall Street Journal reporting Ukraine launching at
least 10 British made storm shadow cruise missiles.
Ukraine not commenting.
Ukraine fighting to hold on to a small
patch of Russian territory it holds in Kursk
to use as leverage.
But Russian forces, assisted by thousands of North
Korean soldiers, are slowly pushing them back.
The U.S. in another policy reversal now
allowing Ukraine to use anti-personnel landmines to
try to slow the Russians down.
And amid growing fears about Russian retaliation, the
U.S. embassy in Kyiv closing down for
much of the day.
We were given exclusive access to the secret
command center of the elite Ukrainian heartier brigade
in Kharkiv.
Here, drone operators launch attacks on Russian troops.
For Ukrainians, we do not have a choice.
We have to fight because we are fighting
for our land and for our way of
life, for our freedom.
But this morning, the U.S. embassy in
Kyiv shutting down warning of a potential significant
air attack by Russia.
Staff being told to shelter in place and
other embassies also closing as these tensions rise
between the U.S. and Ukraine and Russia.
So as you dig into this U.K.
missiles, again, it's the media saying this.
Neither the U.K. nor the Ukrainian government
have confirmed it, but British media say they
have numerous sources.
And also Russian military bloggers are saying that
it was storm shadow missiles that were used.
It's on a town called Maryino in Kursk
region in Russia, only about 40 kilometers, actually,
from the Ukrainian border.
There's one video doing the rounds on social
media made by somebody in that town.
You can't see the missiles, but you hear
them flying in and you hear him becoming
increasingly agitated as one after another.
No video.
Yeah.
And then Moscow says, oh, no, we shot
down five of the six.
I won't play the clip because it gets
a little tedious.
So, oh, these are the great attack.
They shot down five of the six.
Luckily, on the soon to be spun off
spinco CNBC, there was a rare moment of
spin down and information that was actually useful
from a guy from the Brookings Institute.
For more insights on this move, we want
to bring in Michael O'Hanlon.
He's senior fellow and director of research for
foreign policy at the Brookings Institution.
And Mike, you were the first person I
thought of when I heard this report.
What does this mean?
It sounds like Biden is trying to help
Zelensky maybe get the best possible positioning he
can before the Trump administration comes in and
potentially forces a deal with Russia.
Hi, Becky.
Well, that's part of it.
But I also think it's just sort of
the most natural, relatively small, somewhat symbolic gesture
that can be made in response to the
North Korean involvement.
Because, as you know, the permission to use
these weapons is limited to that very small
part of Russia, where the North Koreans are
now fighting to try to drive the Ukrainians
out.
And moreover, we've known this kind of a
decision might be coming for a long time.
President Biden's made decisions like this before.
So I doubt very much that Russia and
North Korea allow themselves to have big troop
concentrations or vulnerable headquarters within range of these
missiles.
And moreover, it seems like we've told the
world about the decision before we gave the
Ukrainians permission.
So any element of surprise has probably been
lost.
So I think it has to be seen
more in the context of the diplomacy of
the war and trying to make sure the
North Koreans don't come in in larger numbers
rather than any effort to make a decisive
military difference on the battlefield.
Exactly.
It's not that big a deal.
Everybody's got their hair on fire.
Oh, Putin said, oh, I'm going to escalate
my rules.
Well, yeah, of course he's going to say
that.
It's tit for tat.
This is typical, typical war gaming.
And yes, everybody knew that the attack was
coming.
I read from the Supplemental Appropriations Act 2024,
Section 505, while you're picking up the phone.
Transfer of long-range attack is required as
soon as practicable after the date of enactment
of this act.
The president shall transfer long-range army tactical
missile systems, ATACMS, to the government of Ukraine
to assist the government of Ukraine in defending
itself and achieving victory against the Russian Federation.
If the president determines that executing the transfer
of long-range army tactical missile systems to
the government of Ukraine pursuant to Subsection A
would be detrimental to the national security interests
of the United States, the president may withhold
such transfer, which he, of course, has done
so far.
And then he has to issue a report
to the Committees on Appropriations and Foreign Relations
of the Senate and of the House.
So none of that happened.
What did happen, what did happen is there
was a memorandum on the 15th, memorandum on
the delegation of authorities under Section 507D and
508A.
Because I went looking, hey, wait a minute.
Don't tell me he let Anthony Blinken take
care of these ATACMS. No.
D, so 507D is cancellation of indebtedness.
Yes, this is exactly right.
This was the cover-up for what you're
just about to read, which I think is
just abhorrent.
So the president can, may not before November
15th, 2024, so this came out on the
15th, take any action related to the indebtedness
of the government of Ukraine that cancels any
indebtedness incurred by Ukraine pursuant to this section.
So that has been transferred to the Secretary
of State.
And so now Blinken can, if he hasn't
already, cancel Ukraine's debt to us.
Thanks a lot.
According to this morning's report, $4.7 billion
of loan forgiveness was released.
Right off the top.
I have no idea what the total is
going to be, but already the so-called
loan is bullcrap.
I mean, we have been taken for a
ride.
Not only is it a cover-up for
this, but it's also a cover-up for
that.
For the seventh consecutive time, the Department of
Defense could not fully account for how it
spends taxpayer dollars.
In the latest audit, the Pentagon could not
track billions of dollars.
The Defense Department's budget.
Over $800 billion, almost a trillion dollars.
For the 2024 fiscal year is $842 billion,
just over 12% of the total federal
budget.
Comptroller Mike McCord stating in a release that
despite the audit revealing areas for improvement, the
department has, quote, turned a corner and, quote,
momentum is on our side.
Now, I got this clip because, and this
was from News Nation, they did some very
interesting inserts here, which we'll discuss after the
clip plays out.
The Pentagon's reliance on private contractors, which account
for more than $400 billion annually, over half
the defense budget, according to USAspending.gov. From
jet fighters to missile systems, companies like Lockheed
Martin, Boeing and Raytheon secure multi-billion dollar
contracts each year.
These contracts have drawn scrutiny for cost overruns,
delays and insufficient oversight.
We're not going to be cutting ribbons, we're
going to be cutting costs.
President-elect Donald Trump vowing to reduce wasteful
federal spending with the newly created Department of
Government Efficiency, or DOGE, tapping billionaires Vivek Ramaswamy
and Elon Musk to lead the charge.
Our defense budget is pretty gigantic, it's a
trillion dollars, but the interest that we owe
on the debt is now higher than the
defense budget, over a trillion dollars and growing.
The failed audit revealing the Department of Defense
continues to face difficulties in tracking and reporting
property, equipment and inventory, preventing an accurate report
of a clear money trail.
This is about restoring self-governance and accountability
in America.
Most of the people making these decisions, from
healthcare to the Department of Defense, are failing
on effectiveness because they have no accountability.
Though DOGE is not an official agency and
Congress controls budget for federal agencies, the hope
of the president-elect is that the initiative,
which ends in 2026, can help the Pentagon
pass its first audit by 2028.
So I'm pretty sure all this noise was
definitely partially used or intended to cover up
this failed audit seventh time in a row.
And I love that News Nation, you know,
chopped in the DOGE boys saying, billionaire Vivek
Ramaswamy, I didn't know he was a billionaire,
but the DOGE boys, how much you want
to bet that they're not going to start
with the Department of Defense?
I have a very hard time seeing Elon
Musk saying, yeah, no, there's wasteful spending on
those rockets and that stuff.
You can't have that.
No, we'll see if they go after the
Department of Defense.
But these types of distractions for massive audit
failures within the Department of Defense go back
to 2001.
Yeah, that would have been perfect.
We are, as they say, tangled in our
anchor chain.
Our financial systems are decades old.
According to some estimates, we cannot track $2
.3 trillion in transactions.
We cannot share information from floor to floor
in this building because it's stored on dozens
of different technological systems that are inaccessible or
incompatible.
We maintain 20 to 25 percent more base
infrastructure than we need to support our forces
and an annual waste to taxpayers of some
$3 to $4 billion.
That was Donald Rumsfeld on September 10th, 2001.
You know, we didn't talk about defense issues
for a long time after that.
In addition, this is NATO freaking out about
Trump, freaking out about they.
They are freaked out.
We need to have more noise going on
in Russia with Russia and Ukraine, more stuff
to talk about.
We need to get as much money out
as we can.
And you know what?
Why don't we do an exercise while we're
at it?
This forest in Lapland is within Russian missile
range.
It's the first NATO military exercise since the
re-election of Donald Trump.
And as French artillery fires alongside U.S.
Army rocket launchers, the threat of American disengagement
is on everyone's minds.
This French colonel who is in charge here
doesn't want to consider this scenario.
NATO is important and so is France's role
in this military power.
NATO is vital for us and our partners.
Vital, especially as Russian President Vladimir Putin once
again raises the threat of a nuclear attack.
And for his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky, a
U.S. withdrawal would mean a defeat for
Ukraine.
I can't predict the future.
I'll say the U.S. has been a
founding member of NATO for 75 years.
And I only see that continuing.
Since the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022,
the United States have deployed in Europe some
90,000 soldiers from their naval and air
forces.
And as NATO allies await Donald Trump's first
decisions, war simulations remain on the agenda.
This whole report was set up to say
we need NATO.
NATO is important.
Finland, brand new NATO member.
They're in Finland doing these exercises within range
of these weapons, within Russian range of these
weapons.
The people speaking, they've got the good looking
uniforms on.
You know, yeah, it's camo, but it's freshly
pressed.
And they're not running through some mud doing
exercises.
They're due to do PR, promotion.
Oh, and while we're out at Finland, oh,
you should be very worried.
You really need NATO too.
This morning, questions about potential sabotage.
After two underwater Internet cables connecting parts of
Europe to the NATO countries of Finland and
Sweden were severed under the Baltic Sea, a
cargo ship in the area owned by a
Chinese company has raised suspicion.
Local authorities now tracking the ship that said
sail from Russia.
Unconfirmed reports claim the captain is Russian.
European officials not directly blaming Russia for the
disconnected cables, but Germany and Finland saying our
European security is not only under threat from
Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine, but also
from hybrid warfare by malicious actors.
Hybrid warfare is a term that could include
unconventional tactics like cyber attacks.
Speaking generally, we are incredibly concerned about hybrid
warfare conducted by Russia, both in Europe and
around the world.
And it's something that we have been in
close coordination with our European allies.
It comes as Ukraine launches British made cruise
missiles into Russia for the first time.
After President Biden allowed Ukraine to fire American
long range missiles into Russian territory.
So we don't even know if attackers were
fired.
It's still these British shadow missiles.
And we're freaking out the new NATO members.
Oh, oh, the captain was Russian.
Hey, probably.
And I talked to Sir von der Helm.
I said, how's your Internet?
No problem with the Internet.
These were Internet cables.
There's no issue.
So I don't know exactly what's going on.
But we have to sigh up the Finnish
and Swedish people one more time.
How to prepare for the possibility of war?
That's the question addressed in this pamphlet sent
out to more than 5 million Swedes.
The booklet was written by the Swedish Civil
Contingencies Agency and provides practical tips for dealing
with crises, such as war, natural disasters or
cyber attacks.
We actually have to prepare for the worst
case scenario, a war scenario, not that we
necessarily think that there will be war, but
we really need to have that preparedness and
need to include the population in that preparedness.
The 32-page brochure gives logistical advice from
stocking up on food and water and growing
your own vegetables to finding reliable sources of
information and locating bomb shelters.
It also provides mental health advice on how
to deal with anxiety caused by the possibility
of war.
With simple ideas like talking about concerns to
friends and family, helping others to feel useful,
exercising or limiting the barrage of negative news
about the world.
The initiative has sparked intense debate in a
society unaccustomed to the reality of war.
But the Swedes are not the only ones
taking precautions.
Their Finnish neighbours, who share a 1,340
-kilometre-long border with Russia, have also set
up a website offering similar advice.
In 2022, after the Russian invasion began, the
two countries asked to join NATO, thus abandoning
several decades of military non-alignment.
So there it is, in my nutshell.
This is a bunch of bullcrap.
And don't be worried about World War III
starting and Biden going out with a bang.
This is all just typical PR to cover
up the audit, to cover up the debt
forgiveness, and to keep NATO looking very important.
And oh, boy, we can't.
No, Trump, you can't pull us out of
NATO.
That would be horrible.
This is public relations slash propaganda.
I can't argue.
No, it's the basic thesis.
You can't argue.
It's totally prepare for war.
Oh, my, my, my.
Well, we can take a look at the
three by three, which is about Ukraine shooting
these missiles.
Oh, man, I'm sorry.
I feel woefully unprepared.
I didn't even realise you had a three
by three.
Now it's time for three by three.
Experiment by J.C.D. Comparing stories from
ABC, CBS and NBC.
The never-ending three by three.
All right, Steve Jones on the ball once
again.
It's good to have him back with a
three by three.
Let's find out what's going on in US
propaganda of this war, this horrible turn of
events.
Start with ABC.
Tonight, Ukraine firing the first American-made long
-range missiles into Russia.
Targeting an ammunition store in the Bryansk border
region, seen in video circulating online.
A US official telling ABC News eight missiles
known as Atakoms were fired and two intercepted.
The Kremlin appearing to threaten possible use of
nuclear weapons in response.
But the Pentagon saying there are no signs
it's preparing to do so.
Russia already attacking Ukraine, though, day and night.
We joined drone hunters trying to intercept attacks.
Suddenly, an incoming drone.
You can hear it in the sky.
The team scours the skies and opens fire.
These drone hunters are out every night across
the country as Russia sends more and more
drone across the border into Ukrainian cities.
The drone gets away as the team works
through the night, defending family, country and freedom.
David, today marks 1,000 days of full
-scale war in Ukraine.
And despite all these talks about peace plans,
there's no clear end in sight.
They haven't.
So, wow, they have different numbers.
They've got eight drone, eight Atakoms.
Two were shot.
How?
I thought these Atakoms were like the big
deal.
They suck.
They're not doing anything.
One of them broke up in the sky
and fell down and hit someone.
But that seems to be happening a lot
with these missiles.
Okay, well, let's go to...
These are all the same report, but let's
go to CBS's version of the same report.
I love the opening.
U.S. officials say Ukraine fired eight American
-made Atakoms into Russia.
Which U.S. officials?
Who?
Give me a name.
If we're at war, if we are at
war...
By the way, if it's a U.S.
official, they're not anonymous.
Well, unless they're lying about it.
Or, you know, the U.S. officials spoke
on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized
to talk about it.
This is bullcrap.
If we're at...
We now know because Tucker Carlson and Glenn
Greenwald did a whole show about it.
We're at war now because it takes Americans
to operate these and we have to have
our U.S. satellite tracking technology.
But we're at war.
You didn't get the clip either.
No, I couldn't watch it.
I just saw that.
I'm like, no, I'm not going to watch
this.
I was tempted to get the part that
you just said.
You summarized faster than Greenwald ever could.
It's like, oh, please.
U.S. officials say Ukraine fired eight American
-made Atakoms into Russia.
The target was a military facility in...
And let's just...
Let's just...
Sorry to interrupt, but let's just determine what
Russia is, okay?
This is a border region that the Ukrainians...
That's that 1,000 square meters or whatever
that they went into.
It's that area.
It's not...
When they say into Russia, it's not Moscow.
You know, it's where the actual skirmish is
taking place.
And you notice that they say Kursk region,
not the Kursk region.
So be like, well, these missiles were shot
in Kursk region.
It's the...
I want to say the Kursk region.
Anyway, I'm not at CBS, so...
American-made Atakoms into Russia.
The target was a military facility in the
Bryansk region of southern Russia, according to the
Russian Defense Ministry.
U.S. officials say the Russians may have
shot down two of the missiles, powerful weapons
with a maximum range of close to 200
miles.
First of all, it's going to help our
troops right now at the front lines.
Aleksandra Ustinova is a member of Ukraine's parliament
who told us she lobbied the U.S.
government to allow Ukraine to use the Atakoms
deep inside Russia.
The U.S. only agreed to it two
days ago, worried it could escalate the conflict.
Are you angry that the U.S. didn't
give Ukraine permission earlier to use the Atakoms
deep inside Russia?
I'm really disappointed that every decision that the
U.S. government is making comes about six
months later than it was needed.
Russia accuses the U.S. of adding fuel
to the fire, and today Vladimir Putin approved
a change in Russia's nuclear doctrine, lowering the
threshold for a nuclear strike.
A U.S. official called that irresponsible rhetoric.
President Biden allowed the broader use of Atakoms
after more than 10,000 North Korean soldiers
were deployed to Russia, bolstering Moscow's forces.
Today, Ukraine's president, Vladimir Zelensky, warned that number
could grow to 100,000.
Today marks 1,000 days since Vladimir Putin
launched his invasion.
We were here when it began, Nora, and
we've witnessed Ukrainians lose their homes, their limbs,
and their lives in a war they never
wanted.
I just want to add my own sound
effects from time to time.
All right, so that's pretty much the same
report.
Tell me that NBC starts with a missile
launch.
Tell me.
Yeah, I think they're given a sound effect.
Nat pops, baby.
Yeah, yeah, they had a good one.
Tonight, anxious hours after Ukraine fired American-made
long-range missiles called Atakoms at a nuclear
-armed Russia for the first time, according to
two U.S. officials.
It comes just days after the White House
approved their use outside Ukraine's borders.
Tonight, President Putin has lowered the bar for
Russia's use of nuclear weapons.
Under a new nuclear doctrine, Russia could deploy
its arsenal and be attacked by a non
-nuclear country allied with a nuclear state, a
message unmistakably directed at Ukraine and the U
.S. I'm Kelly O'Donnell in Rio de Janeiro
at the G20 Summit, where dozens of international
leaders have been gathered, including President Biden and
Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who today called
the Ukrainian missile attack an escalation.
And he talked about Putin making changes to
how Russia could use its nuclear arsenal.
We are strongly in favor of doing everything
not to allow a nuclear war to happen.
As for the Atakoms, Ukraine says they will
help resist a Russian offensive supported by North
Korean troops just months before President-elect Trump
takes office and is expected to demand a
deal.
Ukraine today marking 1,000 days of war
with Russia, with talks on the horizon, but
no sign of compromise.
President Putin has made many unnerving nuclear threats.
Tonight, one European leader calling it rhetoric.
Rhetoric.
Oh, someone agrees.
Why do we have to have a British
guy?
Because this is an intelligence op.
My guys were British, too.
They're all British.
This thing is an op.
And it's been hard here, man.
It's been hard to calm people down because
they all think nuclear war is coming.
Where, you know, Lavrov said, He's sounding more
like Kissinger as he gets older.
He is, he is, he is.
This is posturing.
And, you know, so what?
So what's the big deal with North Korean
soldiers?
Who cares?
Do you know how many American soldiers were
in Ukraine?
Most of them are dead.
KIA, because I get the reports every single
day.
They all went over there and fighting for
freedom as mercenaries, of course.
There's all kinds of Americans, British, Dutch.
They're all over the place.
So what's the big deal?
So they got North Koreans.
Oh, 10,000.
Sure.
Yes, specifically.
The question you're asking is specifically what the
Russians have known to use.
Africans and mercenaries and all kinds.
So why now is North Koreans a big
deal when everything else seemed to be OK?
It's just a, it's a scare tactic.
It's an op of some sort.
Yeah, the same as this thing.
Just keep that noise in there all the
time.
The term that you see floating around is
they're trying to magaproof.
It's called magaproof.
Oh, yes.
Magaproof.
There you go.
Because when Trump gets in, he's going to
want to end this war.
But you want to magaproof it.
That means he won't be able to.
So they're trying to screw him over.
And the only way you can do that
is with an op.
But yeah.
Well, that brings us to Netanyahu.
Well, can I just stick with NATO for
one more second?
Oh, we're still there?
Yeah.
There's one more NATO thing I wanted to
get out of the way because this has
been bugging me for a couple of weeks.
So there's this.
Well, actually, Neil Oliver, who I like from
GB News in the UK, he summed it
up quite nicely.
This has been going around.
And I have some comments on this story.
Online publication Slay carried this headline recently from
the Dutch part of the lunatic asylum.
Dutch government official admits COVID pandemic was military
operation.
Ministry of Health obeys NATO.
A top Dutch government official that reads has
admitted that the COVID was a military operation
and revealed her nation was taking orders from
the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Dutch health minister Fleur Agema has revealed that
the military operation was led by NATO and
the Netherlands National Coordinator for Security and Counterterrorism,
NCTV.
The NCTV is a Dutch government agency that
serves the country's national security.
During a speech in the Dutch parliament, Agema
acknowledged that the government responded to the pandemic
by complying with NATO obligations.
Now, luckily for no agenda nation, I am
fluent in Dutch.
Not just that I speak the language I
grew up with it.
I am completely bilingual.
And I watched this.
I watched the question and answer session, which
was about money, about money for a future
pandemic.
At no point did Dutch health minister Fleur
Agema say that COVID-19 and the Corona
period was a NATO operation.
She did not say that.
She's new.
This is the new parliament that has come
in.
And she said, coming in as a newbie,
I was surprised to hear, she actually says,
I was very surprised to hear that under
the new preparedness doctrine, which comes from, she
said, I think Brussels, that there are new
rules that they want to implement and what
needs to be done under pandemic preparedness in
the event it is a biological attack.
I'm paraphrasing.
But she did not say NATO was controlling
this whole thing.
She just didn't say it.
She did not say it.
And you can look at the subtitles as
long as you want.
But I hear what she's saying.
She said, you know, there's something up that
this and this is all the pandemic treaty
business.
That's what's going on.
And they want money to prepare for a
pandemic, for a possible war scenario.
But she did not say that COVID-19
and the Corona period was run by NATO
operatives and the anti-terrorism group.
It's just not true.
So stop.
When I heard that guy talking, I thought
the guy was full of crap just from
the sounds of it.
Well, but I didn't have to do the
translation.
But this has been going around.
But the yeah.
But the other thing I think that might
be true is the ex-CDC guy, that
weird bearded looking character that keeps cropping up,
who claims now in a tweet or in
a presentation that was retweeted that the that
COVID-19 was actually developed in North Carolina
and then moved to Wuhan.
Oh, no.
That's since you brought it up.
I'll play this other clip.
There's now.
Oh, no, no.
Canada is you're wrong.
You are wrong, my friend.
We're approaching five years since the first known
COVID-19 outbreak and scientists are still trying
to trace the origin of the pandemic.
Did it come from a lab or an
animal market?
Well, a Saskatoon virologist is part of a
team determined to find out.
CTV's Alison Bamford is on this story.
And Alison, what does new data suggest?
Sandy, these researchers say it's the most critical
question of the pandemic.
How did it start?
Their previous research pointed to a market in
Wuhan as the origin of the pandemic, where
the coronavirus jumped from animals to humans.
Now, an international team of scientists is strengthening
its case that COVID-19 wasn't leaked from
a lab.
So we have evidence that the infection spread
outward in the human population from the market.
Now we have information that proves that those
animals were at the market and we know
that at least some of them were susceptible.
The most common animal found at the market
was the raccoon dog, known to be susceptible
to the virus.
But researchers are now testing to see what
other animals could have been carriers.
As far as we know, the animals themselves
were never sampled.
We probably won't be able to locate the
exact infected animal.
Based on the evidence we have now, these
researchers say it's very difficult to explain any
other theory of origin.
That includes the theory that the virus was
leaked from the Wuhan lab.
This team of scientists says that hypothesis is
not probable.
Oh, man.
None of this is news.
This is just complete propaganda.
And we've learned nothing.
We've learned nothing.
But we've learned how full of crap these
people are.
Well, we have.
We have.
No agenda nation has.
But I'm just looking at my text messages
and like, nope, we've learned nothing.
Oh, no.
It's all scary.
So I have a few clips about the
machine gun drones that I wanted to talk
about.
Okay.
Because this, again, brings up the inability of
the mainstream Gaza.
This is in Gaza.
Yeah.
The Gaza stuff.
Okay.
But first, I want to mention that this
morning, it turns out that the International Criminal
Court has indicted Netanyahu.
And just as an ask Adam.
Yes.
There's this morning on France 24.
They're going all over every detail of this
thing.
France is going to uphold it.
Right.
They said, oh, yes, we're all in.
Well, no, no, no.
They Macron says, maybe, maybe not.
But then the left wing of France says,
yes, yes, yes.
We're going to arrest them if we can.
But there's only one country.
Does they ask Adam only one country in
the EU that definitely will arrest him on
the spot if they see him has to
be the Netherlands, because the exactly the Hague,
of course.
Of course.
And they're bringing their bikes to surround him.
Yes, of course.
That's of course.
Yeah, that's what we do over there.
But meanwhile, this this strange war crime of
these machine gunned these.
Now, first of all, I want to ask
you a question.
When you when you say quadcopter specific, can
you describe one for me?
A quadcopter would be a drone that has
four engines with propeller blades, hence quad.
Exactly.
And it keeps it in perfect balance and
makes it very maneuverable.
So we have these these supposedly drones floating
around Gaza shooting people with a gun is
a machine gun attached to it.
OK, but but to begin these series of
clips, I have to play the Gaza drones
net pop.
This was the first time.
And I think we're going to start hearing
this.
You never heard this before.
NPR spoke to several eyewitnesses who have seen
the destruction that these drones can cause.
And here's Kat Lonsdorf has been reporting from
Tel Aviv.
And she takes the story from here.
A warning.
This piece includes the sound of gunfire.
They have a trigger warning for the sound
of gunfire.
Wow.
They should just be putting that on loudspeakers
throughout Chicago.
Believe warning.
This city has sounds of gunfire.
Oh, man.
OK, warning.
And this guy's the biggest guy that is
NPR.
Yeah, this is NPR.
Let's go with the drones.
Hold on.
Stop.
That's the one thing.
That's the one thing that every man, woman
and particularly child in the United States has
been exposed to since the womb.
There's gunfire on every television show, every movie,
every Democrat run city.
There's gunfire everywhere.
Since when has this become a trigger for
people?
I found it.
Well, not to bring it up.
Yes, I found it screwy.
Video games are filled with them.
No, it just makes it's somebody at NPR.
The great operation that it is, which I
have a final clip here will indicate they
can't even do simple work.
But yeah, somebody had to come.
Oh, you know, it's going to trigger somebody
who may have heard gunfire in real life
while playing a video game.
Oh, I'm triggered.
OK, clip two.
I don't have a number two.
Is that the Duke Robotics?
No, no, no.
Duke Robotics.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I see it.
Number two.
Yes, I do see it.
Thirty seven year old Fatima Adama is a
freelance journalist from Jabalia in northern Gaza.
It's an area that has been besieged by
Israeli forces since early October.
Adama sent NPR voice notes from her home
there on October 9th.
Hi, how are you?
She starts.
Israeli tanks are closing in, she says.
And the army is nearby.
Suddenly she's interrupted.
Ah, hear that, she says.
That's the quadcopter.
It's what many in Gaza call the small
hovering drone with a rifle mounted underneath.
So if I try to go closer to
the door to get better service, she says,
the quadcopter starts shooting and I have to
go back inside.
It's very dangerous.
The whole town is under siege by the
shooting quadcopter drones, she says.
No one can move.
For months, NPR has collected accounts from more
than a dozen people in Gaza who say
they have seen these sniper drones and that
they've seen them used to shoot and sometimes
kill civilians.
55-year-old Adib Shaqfa says he was
walking with his 32-year-old son on
May 31st in Rafa in southern Gaza.
Shaqfa says it was a quiet day and
there was no fighting nearby when suddenly a
drone appeared and shot his son who was
walking up ahead.
Wow.
Hmm.
Okay.
Well, that's the eyewitness that you think that,
you know, captured one of these.
I didn't think that machine gun sounded very
hefty.
Well, it's good.
Have a recoil.
You can't have something that's too powerful.
I mean, give me something like...
Now add the quadcopter.
Now that's, that's a nat pop.
Yeah, well, that would be triggering if you
ask me.
That's how it should sound.
Okay, so let's go to clip three and
then we have their summary.
He says two men rushed in to help
his son and they were also shot.
Two older women nearby were also shot in
the head, he says.
Shaqfa says the women were killed, so was
his son.
The Israeli military told NPR it's unaware of
this incident and that any suggestion that it
intends to harm civilians is, quote, unfounded and
baseless.
NPR also asked the Israeli military repeatedly if
it was using the sniper drone technology in
Gaza.
It did not respond to the question.
Israel, frankly, like many militaries, is very cautious
about what kinds of information it provides about
its operations and tactics that it uses.
Seth Jones is president of the Defense and
Security Department at the Center for Strategic and
International Studies in Washington, D.C. But also
makes it more difficult for everyday Israelis or
journalists or other researchers to understand how these
things are being used.
Further complicating that understanding, until recently Israel had
a censorship law in place forbidding the media
from reporting on armed drone use by the
military.
And it's something most journalists can't witness with
their own eyes.
Israel has not allowed outside journalists independent access
to Gaza since the war began more than
a year ago.
But we do know that this sniper drone
technology exists and that the Israeli military has
it.
OK, so we know it exists and we
know they have they have it and we
know as far as they go with it.
So it takes like 10 minutes, 10 minutes.
It takes like two minutes for me to
find out the company making these things, Duke
Robotics.
And curiously, you might find a little bit
of information on their own website.
These things were and they're not quadcopters.
They have eight engines.
No, the octocopters, octocopters, octocopters.
And they have a machine gun mounted at
the bottom.
And they've been around since 2016.
And here's what their video has to say
about it.
What if we told you the future is
now?
Robots are replacing combat soldiers.
Unnecessary casualties are becoming part of the past.
Minimizing collateral damage and uninvolved casualties.
Duke Robotics presents TCAD, the future.
With TCAD, the future battlefield has arrived.
A fully robotic battalion capable of identification and
surgical neutralization of hostiles in the field can
now be deployed to places human soldiers can't
reach or simply shouldn't have to go.
TCAD is able to adjust to the right
place and time.
The TCAD robot is designed to identify, target,
and engage in real-life scenarios.
TCAD takes a full recoil of the weapon
discharged, compensates for its poor, and quickly readjusts
to stay on target and in the fight.
The Defense Department chose Duke as winner of
the 2016 Terror Combat Competition.
The company is in the process of implementing
orders from Israeli forces.
You're hired.
You're welcome to NPR's new staff.
Unbelievable.
It's right there.
And this was from 2016.
They've been selling these things.
And 2017, I guess, is when they started
selling them to Israel.
These guys can't cover this?
No.
They could have shown pictures of this crazy
device.
The thing's actually got like a regular kind
of a machine gun that you could carry
in the field, you know, with a stock
and everything.
Really?
Hanging from it on a bunch of springs.
Nice.
And so when it fires and kind of
jerks the thing around a little bit, it's
hilarious to watch.
I think we should start all of our
podcasts with the following.
A warning.
This piece includes the sound of gunfire.
I think our podcast should start with that
always so we don't trigger anybody.
Well, there's a couple of other things regarding
Israel.
Good work, John.
Your job is secure at NPR.
There was a vote over a resolution in
the United Nations.
Another school turned shelter in Gaza hit by
a deadly Israeli strike.
Residents in the enclave continue to pay a
heavy price as Israel presses ahead with its
military campaign against Hamas.
Meanwhile, attempts to halt the fighting are still
proving unsuccessful.
A ceasefire draft resolution at the U.N.
Security Council has been blocked after it was
vetoed by the U.S. Matthew Miller explained
the reasoning behind the move.
The resolution does call for the release of
hostages.
What it doesn't do is link the release
of hostages to an immediate unconditional ceasefire.
Israel's U.N. ambassador criticized the text, describing
it as a resolution for appeasement of Hamas.
The resolution being considered by the Security Council
today is nothing short of a betrayal.
Betrayal.
It betrays the 101 innocent hostages.
Amongst the countries to voice their disappointment over
the U.S. veto was France, which stated
that the text very firmly insists on the
release of the hostages.
For the Palestinian envoy to the U.N.,
there is no excuse for failing to reach
an agreement.
There is no right to mass killing of
civilians.
There is no right to starve an entire
civilian population.
This is what Israel is doing in Gaza.
It marks the fourth time America has exercised
its veto power during the war in support
of its ally Israel.
So, no, and this is a new, this
is not the old, the female, the woman
ambassador.
There's some dude who's doing the veto.
Do they have a different ambassador all of
a sudden that I'm not aware of?
I don't keep up.
And and then the Pope, the Pope spoke
up about Israel.
Pope Francis has suggested the global community should
study whether Israel's.
By the way, this is from Reuters, and
I have a couple of clips from Reuters
today.
I am pretty sure this is an AI
generated voice.
It's 14, it could be 14 seconds.
Have a listen.
Pope Francis has suggested the global community should
study whether Israel's military campaign in Gaza constitutes
genocide.
It's some of the Pope's most explicit criticism
yet of Israel's conduct in its yearlong war
against Hamas.
I'm pretty sure that's AI.
Um, I don't know what, what is the
Pope doing?
What does he have to do with this?
I don't wanna get all my Catholic friends
irked.
No, well, I mean.
But he's the anti-Pope.
He's Satan.
Oh, John at Dvorak.org, which you can't
spell anyway.
So just send it to me.
I'll forward it.
Yes, send it to Adam McCurry, very easy
to spell.
A childhood school photo of you.
Have you ever seen this one?
I don't, probably not.
And you're wearing a Pabst Blue Ribbon shirt?
No, somebody doctored that.
And I said, why don't you send this
to John?
Why are you sending to me?
And he says, well, I couldn't remember how
to spell his name and his spam filter
would probably block it anyway.
So you're wasting my hard drive space with
this?
Really?
Send it to me.
I'll take a look at it.
Yeah, I have it.
I kept it.
I want people to know that we have
a lot of fun show bits coming up,
including some big tech, some big pharma news,
and trans Maoist news.
So you may not want to go away.
As I thank you, the man who put
two C's in Octocopter and say in the
morning to you, the man who put those
C's there, John C.
DeVore.
John, good morning to you, it's Adam Crane.
Good morning to our ships, Seaboots and the
Graffini.
Our subs in the water and all the
dames and knights out there.
Yeah, in the morning to the trolls in
the troll room.
Stand still, don't move, let me catch you.
All right, 21.11 for today.
That's above average.
Way above average 300.
Yeah, you know why?
Because everybody's freaked out about World War 3.
So if you came here for the...
Well, I wish they'd be more freaked out
about giving us more donations.
If you came here to be calmed down...
Hey, it's gonna...
No, World War 3 is coming.
You know, the last...
Get your bank accounts cleared out.
Get...
Buy Bitcoin.
Buy high so Adam can get out.
Adam's not getting out.
It's gonna crack 100,000.
It's crazy.
I think I'll get to 150.
Should I sell at 150?
Is that your advice?
I got nothing to do with advising you
on selling or buying Bitcoin.
So funny.
No, exactly.
But we provide a service.
If we really wanted to make money and
be living on the high hog, we'd be
saying things like, Oh my God, World War
3 is coming.
It's unbelievable.
What are we going to do?
We have our people over there because you
can't use and attack them without 25 American
soldiers.
They're all there in Ukraine.
It's under our guide.
That's right.
It's an active war.
Biden did this before Trump.
It's horrible.
I can't believe it.
We're all gonna die.
Calm down.
We can safely say this because we've been
through this.
We've seen this movie many times.
Go back and listen to the archives.
We've seen how this works.
And the fear of NATO getting the financial
plug pulled is very real and very big.
And Europeans aren't gonna put up with it.
No, no, nor is the military.
It's like the COP 29.
I only have one clip from that to
come later.
But, you know, this is about gouging the
American taxpayer.
That's all everything's about.
It's about gouging the Pentagon.
They can't audit it.
The ridiculous Medicare fraud.
Everything's about gouging and the NATO, UN gouged
the American taxpayer.
But meanwhile, when you listen to NPR.
A warning.
This piece includes the sound of gunfire.
You should be very worried about all that.
Very, very worried.
You really like that clip.
I do.
It's rivaling their eating the dogs.
It's up there.
So the trolls are in the troll room
at trollroom.io. And that's where you can
listen to the live stream.
You can also jump in and troll around,
which a lot of them have been doing
today.
But, you know, they're there.
It's our live studio audience.
Sometimes they're helpful.
Sometimes they're just trolly.
You can also get this on a modern
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the modern podcast apps with audio and video.
Huh?
You're going to wear a wig?
No, I'm thinking of putting on my Headbangers
bald jacket.
I think you should definitely do that, but
you should wear a wig.
I don't think so.
Yeah, a big blonde wig.
Oh, that's so funny.
People have been asking if you want to
come to the show.
I'm like, I'm not even going to ask
you.
Oh, yeah.
That's the response.
Yeah, he's going to say, oh, yeah, oh,
yeah, I'll be right there.
Let me hop on the plane.
I'll be right there.
Let me hop on the plane.
Well, there are other benefits besides seeing cool
new value for value music as we're changing
the music business.
You'll also get alerted when we send out
the bat signal for our live show and
for that live show, for that matter.
And when we publish the show within 90
seconds, you get immediately notified.
We have transcripts.
We have chapters, all kinds of groovy stuff
that you can't get from your legacy apps.
How's the transcripts guide?
How's that product doing?
Oh, the TurboScribe.ai?
Very well.
And what I like about it is the
transcript is done before I publish the show.
I used to have to put a little
dummy in there, a little dummy transcript file
that says transcript is processing because it was
literally processing.
And now, by the time, so the minute
the show is mixed down, you know, so
I just take off the ending and I
put our little opening segment, whichever we choose,
and then I mix it down into the
MP3.
And then the first thing I do is
I upload it to TurboScribe.ai, and it's
done before we're even done with the credits.
And that's so I can just, I can
publish the show with real transcripts in there.
So it's that, it lives up to the
name.
Turbo.
I can't get it to, the speaker recognition
is not as great.
They can recognize speakers, but it'll, you know,
you could say, how many speakers do you
want to recognize?
I say, well, two.
But then, you know, we have so many
voices in this podcast, it gets very confused
over who's saying what.
But because of the clips.
Yeah.
And it doesn't really, and if you go
in later, see the other thing I was
using, otter.ai. Once I had said, this
is John C.
Dvorak, then no matter, even if we hadn't
recorded a show for a year, I drag
in an MP3 of a show that we
did, it would recognize your voice again.
That was very nice.
So the speaker name, it's not the hardest,
it's not the worst thing to not have,
but it could be improved upon.
But it's free for us, so I'm not
complaining.
It's really fast.
I like it.
Well, that little commentary right there is probably
going to be listened to by the coders.
And they're going, oh, we can fix that.
We can fix that.
Mm-hmm.
Not just the coders, the CEO, Leaf.
The CEO is going to say, hey, boys
and girls, hey, North Koreans, get out of
Ukraine and code this up for me.
So that's what we call value for value.
He gave us some value.
We said, hey, I'm going to give you
this product.
You can use it for free.
He says, John, you want a copy?
Jay?
I still haven't got my copy because I
haven't sent him a note back.
Oh, well, there you go.
But that's one way you can open it.
So it's not a psychic product.
No, it's far from it.
So people can help in many ways to
help produce the show.
This is a time saver.
Time equals money always, so we appreciate that.
We appreciate any value returned to us in
time, talent, or treasure.
A longstanding way that people have provided us
with a treasure or with a time and
talent is the artwork.
I got another note from one of our
artists, if you want to hear.
This is about the hot topic.
Wait, wait.
Is this another note where the artist is
pissed off because we looked at him cross
-eyed, that type of note?
No, this is another artist who is saddened
by AI.
Oh, yeah, I saw this note.
Yeah, this has to be read.
From Sir Shug.
Sir Shug, who was one recently a couple
of times.
He says, as any artist, I felt like
sharing my experience with the hot topic of
AI.
As another Dutch master lamented, it can be
a real motivational killer.
And they said to Tante Neel.
By the way, he also mentioned in this
note, where's our other artist who hasn't been
around?
We have a bunch of them.
Are you kidding?
A whole bunch of them have just rage
quit.
Well, a lot of them quit because they
have the timing, they get jobs, they don't
listen to the show, they become Democrats.
This is since the influx of AI art.
They've become very demotivated.
And he actually has make some sense.
He said, notice quite some time ago, dramatic
increase in AI submissions.
It was very discouraging.
At first, I fought against it.
I fought and kept plugging along, doing what
I did.
But at a certain point, I realized some
of this AI stuff is winning.
And then I realized the compositions put together
as hybrids were winning as well.
It was all confusing and conflicting.
After a bit, I decided to simply get
good at using AI.
But honestly, something fell off and I've yet
to fully embrace it and know how to
take advantage of it using AI in an
effective manner.
This is not to say there's no skill
to producing effective AI art.
I believe Darren O'Neill has found a
great niche with his prompting.
And some of what he puts out is
brilliant.
Francisco Scaramanga is one of the best artists
contributing to the show and has a great
sense of combining his skills with AI.
He's a great designer and a great prompt
jockey.
Hubba hubba.
There are also others using AI really well.
But he's actually very honored that he's won
several times.
But he says to echo fellow Dutch masters,
Tantaniel, Boisvert, Koob.
It can be a very time consuming and
real challenging to do what it takes to
conceive of, compose, and execute a non-AI
piece that is worthy and capable of meeting
with your approval.
Anyway, so meeting of our approval has nothing
to do with slickness.
I'll just reiterate that.
In fact, a comic strip blogger uploads lots
of slick art and we think it sucks.
It sucks.
It's horrible.
Because he has no concept.
You need a concept, something.
And that often comes from the show.
It has to be something that we do
on the show that triggers, like gunfire, that
triggers something in the artist to go and
make something.
But this kind of reminded me back in
the day when we first started.
A comic strip blogger is still one of
the top winners.
It doesn't mean it doesn't suck.
Okay.
He used to draw stuff by hand.
And we've used a lot now.
Some of his AI art we've used.
But he's on this round kick, which is
dumb.
And we told him not to do it.
The round thing's got to go.
And he keeps doing it.
Put a stop to that.
But back in the day, we had a
lot of artists who were hand drawing using
a Wacom tablet.
I would say Wacom, but I know you
say Wacom.
Using a tablet, drawing, doing stuff digital.
And I think we had similar conversations about
Photoshop and clip art.
Clip art was a big deal.
We would try to, you know, oh, he
used clip art.
That's not fair.
Remember?
No.
Yes.
And then these artists would say, no, no,
I have licensed this clip art.
Ah, yes.
That has happened.
Yes.
And it was either Tante Neal or the
other, who was the other one that hates
us?
At this point, they all hate us.
And by the way, we're just trying to
provide feedback.
We're not shitting on you.
We're just trying to provide feedback to make
you better.
It's a rare opportunity to be in the
room with the art director.
Because people are saying this about you anyway
behind your back.
But now you get to hear it.
Yeah.
It's got to be beneficial.
It's a service.
It's a complete service to you.
It's completely a service.
Take it from us.
It's a good thing.
They should be sending us money.
I'm saying.
Because of what they learned from listening to
us complain.
I'm just saying.
So, you know, yes, I think that the
tools are changing.
And I have to agree.
I'm amazed at what Darren O'Neill gets
done.
But he has concepts.
And you all have concepts.
And, you know, there was someone else who
sent me.
Well, this artist, he hand drew these things.
And you didn't give him any note, any
mention.
Okay.
It was.
They were pretty drawings, but they weren't funny.
They didn't pertain to something that was said
in the show.
It's supposed to.
It's also.
It's advertising art.
It's not highfalutin, high concept.
This is to draw people in.
Like, oh, what is this?
That must be a great episode.
Or what is this show about?
So, it's not your run-of-the-mill
art.
You know.
And you can get people.
You can draw people in with all kinds
of tools.
From a marketing perspective.
Unlike, by the way, Coca-Cola.
Who created their latest ads for Christmas with
AI.
And everyone hates it.
People are like, this doesn't feel Christmassy at
all.
I don't know what you're referring to offhand.
Oh, no.
I can believe it.
Coca-Cola is a woke company now.
They're no good.
You want to hear a woke company?
You got the Jaguar clip?
Yes, of course.
Of course.
I have it too.
Yes.
Hold on.
Where is it?
Where's my.
Bonus clip.
This is like one of the.
Bonus clip.
Yep.
The bonus clip.
Santino Petrosanti.
Yes.
Notice the name of the same clip.
My clip is called Short Jaguar.
Oh, well, he is head of brand strategy
for Jaguar.
Oh, before we play the clip.
A warning.
This piece includes the sound of gunfire.
He is responsible for the branding internally and
externally.
And at Jaguar, we're passionate about our people.
And we're committed to fostering a diverse, inclusive,
and unified culture that is representative not only
of the people who use our products, but
in a society in which we all live.
A culture where our employees can bring their
authentic selves to work.
And we're on a transformative journey of our
own, driven by a belief in diversity, inclusion,
creativity, policy, and most importantly, action.
We've established over 15 DEI groups, such as
Pride, who are here tonight in the back.
Shout out to Pride.
Thank you guys for coming.
Women in Engineering and Neurodiversity Matters.
We've launched major policy revisions, such as transitioning
at work to drive equity and support for
our communities, embracing individuality as our superpower.
Oh, it says superpower.
Make a good car.
Yeah, how about that for an idea?
Make a good car.
Yeah, well.
Jaguars.
They changed their logo, too.
It doesn't even have the, I don't think
they stopped using the Jaguar.
Really?
Yeah, somebody's had some commentary about that.
Because it was unfair to the animal, or?
I have no idea.
Maybe they didn't get a license from the
Jaguar community, the diverse community.
I have no idea.
The whole thing is ridiculous.
Have you seen their ads?
And to be bragging about it as though
it's like some, you're right.
Just make a good car.
Do whatever you want.
Why are you kind of posturing this bull
crap?
Yeah, hello.
Hello, 2010.
Hello.
You did it twice.
I sure did, but.
Hello.
Have you seen their ads?
Yes, the ads are terrible.
Yeah, you don't even see the car.
They don't know.
Why show a car?
Now we're just going to show a bunch
of creeps walking around.
It's really incredible.
Hey, we want to thank you.
Well, we got time today.
If you people want to keep listening, I
have some TikTok clips that are of creeps.
Oh, is this stuff that you need to
be seeing it to understand it?
No, no.
It's just people whining and moaning and groaning.
All the way at the end, then.
This would be mostly people that aren't going
to meet with their family for Thanksgiving because
of the way they voted.
Oh, it's a holiday segment.
Yes, it's the holiday segment.
You can do that next couple of shows.
By the way, we're working on Thanksgiving, as
we always do.
I don't think there's been one Thanksgiving once
that we didn't work.
I don't recall that.
2017, I was in England.
Okay, I'll give that to you.
Anyway, we want to thank Capitalist Agenda, who
brought us the artwork for episode 1713.
We titled that, Lipless Wonder, after the $3
million news model, Caitlin, the lipless wonder.
And we looked at this.
We didn't even know if it was AI,
if so, how much.
It was a very Capitalist Agenda type piece.
Who does these pieces?
I actually used one of his pieces for
the newsletter, which we somehow overlooked.
It was actually a dynamite piece.
It was the spy versus spy characters, only
they were both donkeys.
And it said Dem versus Dem.
Oh, we missed that.
I think it's a piece that came in
later or something.
When I saw it, I decided to just
look up Capitalist Agenda art, because he's really
good.
I don't see it on the list.
You clicked on his art when it was
maybe an older piece?
Yes, it was an older piece.
It was maybe two or three shows ago.
No, it was 1709 is when he submitted
it.
Yeah.
Yeah, we must have chosen something else for
that episode.
It was a killer piece.
But thank you, Capitalist Agenda.
We liked it.
We thought it was good.
I kind of like Scaramanga's Robo Spear, as
in Shakespeare.
I like that a little bit.
The It's Nuts transition snack from Sir Net
Ned was high on our list.
But it lacked something.
I think it was the rabbit ears on
RFK that kind of turned us off.
I did use it for the bat signal
today.
By the way, most of these images, whether
we like them or not, are used in
the chapters.
So people do get exposure to them.
Dame Kenny Ben, who I know did this
by hand.
She had the first buddy of the United
States write good concept.
But the execution just didn't make sense.
It didn't really look like a challenge coin.
I think it was Dame Kenny Ben who
complained when we bitched about clip art.
Yeah, could be.
And it had the right.
By the way, I got a in the
PO box.
You remember the constitutional lawyer, Rob, who took
us out and we met the two former
spooks from the NSA who were in Germany?
Yeah.
So they sent me a mug.
Yes.
Straight from an authentic NSA mug.
It was a coffee mug.
It has National Security Agency logo on one
side.
On the other side, it has the super
secret squirrel.
There's an actual squirrel that has a super
secret badge on him.
This is very cute.
I like that they have humor over there.
At the NSA.
Sure.
That's supposed to be funny.
Yeah.
When you see it's a cute squirrel.
Yeah.
I think it's the dead squirrel.
Are you telling me the squirrels aren't real?
So were you telling me?
Yes.
And birds.
Darren did a cool piece, which I think
was meant for congratulating Ashley Speed.
Wow.
Man, they're on a roll over there.
Yeah.
Like I said, she's going to be very
world famous at some point as one of
the greatest female racers ever.
She's going to end up at Indy and
we're going to call her up and say,
hey, can we get some pit passes?
And she's going to say, who?
You stepped all over my line.
I'm sorry.
But you're right.
Who?
What else was there?
No, that was really the stuff we looked
at.
There were some other things.
Everyone tries.
I know.
I know everyone's trying to do stuff.
And so the hybrids.
You try some hybrids, people.
Go with the times.
What can I tell you?
It's horrible.
I hate it.
You know, there's even some music now that
I'm like toe tapping.
I'm like, oh, wait a minute.
This is AI.
I didn't even realize it.
Oh, wait.
You got suckered?
You were tapping your toe to some AI
music?
Do you know who's doing some really amazing
AI music?
Bob Dylan.
Listen to this.
Tell me, A, do you think this is
AI?
And then tell me who did it.
What is your miracle?
Every morning.
What is your miracle?
So that is completely AI generated with a
lot of work and prompting by Mo Facts.
I didn't care for it.
Had a very Motown-y vibe.
I liked it.
Mo and the Artifacts is the group.
Yeah.
Well, I played it yesterday or Wednesday on
the Booster Grand Ball.
People didn't know that it was AI.
Like, wow, this sounds just like Motown.
See, once I set them up, I said,
oh, this is Mo Facts who did this.
Then they didn't think about it being AI.
Very interesting.
Well, good.
It's fun to do this stuff.
Yeah.
But if people really had to pay what
it costs, they wouldn't be doing it.
And those days are coming.
Microsoft Copilot, now $20 a month.
It is?
Oh, yeah.
I've never used it.
I did do an AI test recently.
So I used Grok.
Yes.
And I used Perplexity.
Perplexity is not bad.
Well, both of these were a complete fail.
Oh.
And here's what the question was.
I asked very specifically, because I saw this
again.
They played it.
It's on YouTube.
And it was Jim Gaffigan yacking away at
the dinner, the Al Smith dinner.
And then Trump goes up there, and he
does another 10 minutes of material.
There is a blonde woman sitting next to
the podium who seems to be part of
the group that put this on or something,
because she's always kibitzing.
And when she's sitting next to Gaffigan, she's
between Gaffigan.
She is next to the podium between the
podium and Gaffigan when he sat down.
Question, who was this woman?
Because she's a scene stealer.
She's mugging the cameras.
You're doing a lot of work.
So I asked both Perplexity and Grok.
Grok said it was Melania Trump, which wasn't
sitting anywhere near the podium.
And so that's way off.
And she's not blonde.
And Perplexity couldn't identify her.
So what good does that do me?
Where's this AI?
It has to be some person that we
all know or that somebody knows.
A very prominent position in a very prominent
event.
Who was it?
They can't tell me.
I just asked Chad GPT and at the
2020-2024 Al Smith dinner, the prominent blonde
woman seen at the event was former First
Lady Melania Trump.
She's not blonde.
Prominent blonde woman, Melania Trump.
She's not blonde.
And she wasn't sitting there.
Now we have three fails of this AI
search.
It's crap.
No, it's no good.
It's no good.
And it's not getting better.
Did you hear that the new chips, they
have to recall them because they're overheating?
Yeah, well, that's kind of old news.
The stock still went up.
Oh, yeah, sure.
All right.
So was Bitcoin.
Fine.
Whatever.
So now we have three fails on a
simple question.
And I know if I just took a
picture of the image and circled her and
put an arrow and posted it on any
number of social networks, someone would have the
answer.
But these great AI search engines, they can't
come up with that simple answer.
None of them.
Thank you very much, Capitalist Agenda, and to
all the artists who did their best.
We appreciate it all.
Almost all of it gets used in the
chapters.
And it's fun to look at.
It's great to have this resource, noagendaartgenerator.com.
I hope that we get the people, the
Dutch masters with their getting used to some
of the new tools, if appropriate.
And if not, I hope you stick with
it because you all are very, very good.
And it's very appreciated what you do.
No matter who we pick, we love you
all.
Right, John?
Yep.
OK.
Now let's get to the treasure.
This is producers who support us financially.
The list is not very long today.
No, not on a Thursday.
This is really piss poor, to be honest
about it.
It must have been the newsletter, again.
Could be.
By the way, you should subscribe to the
newsletter.
You can do that at noagendashow.net, any
of the show notes pages.
It's a good read.
It really is.
It's worth looking at.
It's fun.
It's entertaining.
And we remind you that we have a
show coming up, and we do that the
day before.
So it's useful.
It's a very useful wagon.
We appreciate anyone who supports us, and all
of you are producers for that very reason
alone.
We read and thank all the names and
give you their donation amounts above $50.
$200 and above, we'd like to stop and
thank them in this segment.
Not only do we read their note, but
they also become associate executive producers of this
episode, which are credits that are real and
are recognized anywhere that you can put show
business credits down as a chit.
Say, here I am, associate executive producer, including
imdb.com, and $300 or above, and you
automatically become an executive producer of this episode,
and we read your note as well.
And so as we kick it off, our
top executive producer is Agent 99 from LaGrange,
Texas.
We've heard from Agent 99 before, 333.
And Agent 99 says, with this donation, Well,
once we knight you, which is coming up
later, he says, I presume you want that
at the round table.
Ah, good for your sanity.
Your content keeps me ahead 9 to 12
months of the M5M news cycle.
Your comedy and banter keep me laughing.
I have hit Mrs. Agent 99 in the
mouth, and we both have attended Bastrop and
Fredericksburg meetups, which were a blast.
I enjoyed meeting people I've heard reference on
the podcast, like Brian with an I and
Sir Dirty Jersey Whore.
By the way, I reject his attempts at
rebranding his handle by removing whore.
As a recovering dude named Ben, I found
the podcast index, which I also listen to
live on at 1x speed and only weekly.
I am amazed by the ability to bring
podcast education to the masses.
Keep a positive open source community moving together
is not easy.
Actually, with this community, it's pretty easy, because
people just want to keep speech free and
open.
I look forward to continuing fantastic content and
delaying any exit strategies.
And that's how he ends his note.
Well, thank you very much, Agent 99.
Appreciate it.
I'll see you at the round table.
Curiously, that's our only executive producer for today's
show.
The Jinxed Show 1714.
I think it was it.
What is the number?
1714.
But we do have Jesse.
What do you think?
In Lafayette, Colorado.
250.
And, whoops.
I pushed a down button, but the cursor
was someplace else, so it shot down to
the bottom of the screen.
I had to scroll back up.
Didn't take too long.
There it is.
Come on.
Get it together.
This is the trouble with these.
Here's a complaint of mine.
Is this about Excel?
You've got the little bar on the side
that you drag down the browser, right?
Mm-hmm.
So, you're dragging it down, dragging it down,
and then you move off center just a
little bit.
You get too far away from it.
It pops right back up to where you
began.
Yeah, you can disable that.
I think I've told you this many times.
Why doesn't it just leave it where you've
picked it up?
This is the snap feature, which you can
disable.
Yeah, where?
How?
Let's just move on, and I'll show you
again later.
Again?
Yes.
$250 from Jesse.
Dear John and Adam, I've been a long
-time listener.
This is my first donation.
De-douche, por favor.
Oh.
Hold on a second.
Sorry.
You've been de-douched.
I'm so grateful for your show in this
crazy world.
Thank you so much.
May I please get a Bitcoin jingle and
Jobs karma for those in search of the
next adventure.
Cheers, Jesse.
They're saying that all hell is going to
break loose, and you're going to need a
Bitcoin.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma.
Jasmine McMahon, Temecula, California.
I think I'm saying that right.
Grove Ducks, 222.22. My son Ryan turned
nine on the 15th, and he needs to
be de-douche.
You've been de-douched.
Because, as Jasmine says, no son of mine
is going to walk around as a douche
bag.
Amen, mama.
We love you, buddy.
We pray that your amygdala forever stays small,
you forever sing no agenda jingles loudly, and
continue to be unbothered by the ruffling Democrat
feathers.
That's a mom right there.
Jingle request.
Trump, they're eating the pets, and Obama, no,
no, no, mariachi style, and mac and cheese.
Now, I was thinking about this, because she
didn't ask for eating the dogs.
She asked specifically for eating the pets, and
we do have that.
So, I figured I'd play that one.
In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people
that came in.
They're eating the cats.
They're eating the pets.
Okay, you know what?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You slaves can get used to mac and
cheese.
Macaroni and cheese, cheddar melted together.
Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and
cheese.
And she signs future Dame McMama of four
boys and a dog.
All right, right now We actually have the
second executive producer down here at 217 dollars
and 20 cents.
What?
Yes.
Why is he at 217?
How does he get the executive?
Well, sir, Richard, he's in Perth, Western, Australia
This is three hundred thirty three dollars and
thirty three cents of Aussie dollary dues from
Perth Give me your most potent jobs karma
and a 33 magic number love is lit
sir Richard of the lands down under right
and we still to this day recognize Canadian
Australian and New Zealander dollary dues and dollar
rates as As valid for executive producership.
So sir Richard, so be our second executive
producer for episode 1714 Oh
You wanted a potent one Eli the coffee
guy Bensonville, Illinois is next and I am
enjoying my coffee today Yeah, how much does
you have?
I had Six because my sixth cup my
six and final Wow No wonder.
What do you mean, no wonder?
Nothing, nothing, never mind.
I don't want to get on your bad
side with six cups of coffee in you.
I want to wish my smoking, you know
what the problem is?
I have a dealer who oversupplies me.
That's the problem.
It's like, you know, coffee's not cheap.
No matter where you get it from.
Coffee's not cheap.
It should be.
Coffee's not cheap.
But when you got a dealer that supplies
you, like, oh, there's some more from Eli
the coffee guy.
Well, I'll have another cup.
I want to wish my smoking hot wife,
Jen, a happy birthday.
Wait, how are you making this coffee?
French press.
Okay.
Why?
Is that the incorrect way to do it?
No, you make it any way you want.
There's all kinds of ways of making coffee.
I really, I like French press.
I want to wish my smoking hot wife,
Jen, a happy birthday.
Cheers to another trip around the sun while
having fun.
She designs all of our bags, runs our
social media and web design, plus has a
full-time job, besides being a great wife
and a mother.
Wow.
You lucked out, brother.
What do you do with the business?
What do you do?
He just sends us a couple hundred bucks
and asks for plugs.
Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com to see the great work
that Jen does and use code ITM20 at
checkout for 20% off your order.
Stay caffeinated.
Eli the coffee guy.
Yeah, she does good work.
She has a look about her designs that
looks super high-end.
It does.
It looks like you paid big money for
it, which is a big deal.
The Donnellys, meanwhile, up in, oh, this is
in Upland Moor in Great Britain.
Scotland.
Sorry, it's been a while since our last
donation, and we've increased our $11.11 monthly
donation to $33.33. We missed John's Zephyr
report.
Oh.
Yes.
Well, it's because the Zephyr goes by two
hours before the show starts now.
Yep.
Can you please hear the, can I please
hear the R2-D2 jingle from the, the
R2-D2 jingle from the Donnellys in Upland
Moor?
You've got it.
Upland Moor.
Karma.
You know, Tina and I were, we were
watching a movie, and we said, you know,
we should go to Scotland.
We were watching Highlands for the Holidays, a
Christmas movie.
Highlands for the Holidays.
Yeah, I haven't been to Scotland either.
They're supposed to have greens you've never seen
in your life.
Well, it looked really nice, particularly around Christmas
time.
We were thinking, you know, we should probably
go.
We should go visit.
Hey, you're not invited.
What's your problem?
Elizabeth in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, 21060.
Thank you for all you do.
I am only making an associate producer, executive
producer donation because an executive producer donation would
have been almost $500 Canadian, and I'm not
made of money.
Well, just so you know, no, 300 Canadian.
We recognize your money as equal to our
money.
I don't know why, but we love you.
We did it because we felt sorry for
you.
And it's not been to our benefit, but
we love you.
I'm hoping for Jobs Karma for my daughter.
It hasn't hurt us either.
No, it hasn't hurt us.
We're hoping for Jobs Karma for my daughter,
who has run up against the worst job
market since she graduated with her comp sci
degree and F cancer for a dear soul
who I just found out has been battling
cancer for months, but is too humble to
be telling everyone.
So I thought I should.
Oh, no, I think he should.
There you go.
I want to thank you for the show.
I started listening after COVID, but you have
definitely saved my nerves.
I would have been one of those ladies
stockpiling beans because I was afraid of the
grid going down at any moment.
God bless you both.
And all the producers from Elizabeth.
Jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Linda Lou Patkin in Lakewood, Colorado.
There she is 200 bucks as usual.
And she's asked for Jobs Karma surprisingly enough
and says for a winning resume and faster
job search, go to image makers Inc.
Dot com.
That's image makers Inc.
With a K and work with Linda Lou
Duchess of jobs and writer of resumes.
Your go to for all your executive resume
and job search needs jobs, jobs, jobs, and
jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Karma.
Now, do you want to do this one
and I'll do the note or I get
the note in front of me.
Okay.
Sherry Greenhouse, Sarasota, Florida, $200.
Thank you, Sherry.
Managing partner of CRM exchange with an X,
a leading media platform dedicated to enhancing the
customer experience inspired by the value for value
model popularized by no agenda.
We introduced a similar program tailored for CRM
customer relationship management and contact center vendors new
to the industry with a few key stipulations.
We offered these vendors a seat at one
of our four, one of our online round
tables.
In return, we asked them to contribute based
on the value they received measured by the
number of contacts gained through their participation.
We plan to continue this invitation in 2025
fostering growth and collaboration within the industry.
Sherry, keep us updated.
That's fantastic.
I love the idea.
More people should try that and I'll bet
you're doing better than you would have expected.
So, let us know.
Sherry Greenhouse.
Thank you, Sherry.
Kim Killian in New Hudson, Michigan.
And she wrote, this came in as a
check.
She wrote a note, site data view.
Donation, $200.
Hello, no agenda.
Thank you for your show and the information
you share as a donation for you along
with my donation.
Another one.
For all your SQL server database needs, call
on site data view.
We are an expert at, oh, this is
why you wanted to read it.
I told you.
Well, I'm sorry.
I missed the cue.
Yep.
We are an expert at translating your unique
business needs.
Now, this is ad copy that's a little
too long, I think, is what we determined
before the show.
When I saw it, hold on a second,
let me bring it up.
When I saw it, it's on site data
view letterhead, no agenda show slash Jay Dvorak,
read donation $200.
And it says, hello, no agenda, which to
me is like, thank you for your show
and the information you share.
So, you think this may have been written
by a machine?
Well, I'm thinking more like someone is out
there saying, hey, you can get a cheap
ad with these guys if you just say
that you like their show and then give
them your ad copy.
That's what I was thinking.
I can see somebody thinking that because it
is pretty, I would say, I would say
this is a very impersonal note from Kim.
Hello, no agenda.
Yeah, hello, no agenda and thank you for
your show and the information you share, which
is something you will run into in a
canned note from a PR company.
Yes.
For example.
And so we're on to you.
Maybe.
But the point is, she just sent it
in.
So, you can get a hold of this
operation if you want to.
Okay.
Because they do SQL server stuff, which is
some people need.
And it's under www.SiteDataView.com.
SiteDataView.com.
So, she got her ad in.
Yes.
But we were suspicious.
We're expert at translating your unique business needs
into well-structured database solutions.
Whoa.
We need some database solutions.
Now, if she could, like Eli the Coffee
Guy, send us some database solutions, we'd be
a little more susceptible to this note.
This is true.
Yes, yes.
One of the background tasks that is kind
of interesting is the subtle, I don't want
to use the word bribe.
No.
Please don't.
But Eli the Coffee Guy does supply the
two of us with, every month or every
two months, probably four pounds of coffee.
Oh, yeah.
Each.
He's got to be taking a hit from
what he's sending us.
There's no doubt.
I don't know how expensive it is to
get coffee.
Well, we don't know one way or the
other.
No.
But, I mean, he could be making money
hands.
It could be Maxwell House in front of
the whole operation for all we know.
We don't know.
We never met him.
So.
That's funny.
And, yes, so there's that.
So there's a little more personal, something more
personable.
This idea does work.
You can get your ad copy read, but
it has to be a little better.
Yeah.
And send us some database solutions so we
can talk about it on the show.
That's what I need is a database solution.
Exactly.
We all need more database solutions.
Thank you very much.
Including site trade view.
Is that what it is?
Site trade view.
There you go.
Thank you all to our executive producers.
We have two of them.
And our associate executive producers.
We will thank everybody who came in over
$50 in our second segment.
We really do appreciate it.
Time, talent, or treasure.
That is the no agenda way we've been
doing it for, well, we're now in our
17th year.
And we can't imagine doing it any other
way.
Congratulations to our execs and our associate executive
producers for episode 1714.
Our formula is this.
We go out.
We hit people in the mouth.
So, you know, all industries, noagendadonations.com.
By the way, I should probably mention that.
noagendadonations.com.
Three times and you'll remember it for the
rest of your life.
noagendadonations.com.
So, industry is freaked out.
They're freaked out about what Trump is bringing
in, especially RFK Jr. What are we going
to do?
What's pharma going to do?
What's food going to do?
Food lobby is gearing up, by the way.
They're getting ready.
They're getting into the fight with RFK Jr.
Presuming that he gets confirmed and, God forbid,
that he lives.
He stays healthy.
I pray for his safety.
I'm telling you.
This guy is going to be the most
hated man in corporate America.
Well, in parts of corporate America.
In important parts.
The ones that pay for media, you know?
Yes.
Well, that's important to old media.
Yes.
Well, exactly.
Not the podcasters.
Not us.
No, no.
Can you imagine that?
If Novo Nordisk sent us some Wigovi and
it had a note.
We love your show.
Dear No Agenda, we love your show and
we love what you do.
Instead, they've got a new gambit going on.
Here comes the native ad.
Here's the promotion on NBC.
Well, now to some surprising health news this
morning.
Turns out, more than half of the nation's
adults are eligible for the wildly popular weight
loss drugs, Ozempic and Wigovi.
According to a new study from JAMA Cardiology,
about 140 million could be candidates for the
drugs.
NBC medical contributor Dr. Natalie Azar joins us
now to break it down.
That's a whole lot of folks watching and
listening right now.
What are the qualifications, Dr. Nat, to be
considered?
Yeah, so if we break that down, of
that 137 million, about 129 million people would
be eligible to manage.
Hold on a second.
Stop it.
This is half the population.
Yep.
Who are they kidding with this?
Hey, it's science.
OK, science.
It's study.
It's science.
It's research.
You cannot go against science.
Break that down.
Of that 137 million, about 129 million people
would be eligible to manage their weight, about
35 million to manage diabetes, and about 8
.9 million people to manage heart disease.
These numbers really are staggering.
And you know what?
137 million, that is more people that are
eligible for statins, which, as we know, are
just almost ubiquitous because of their dramatic risk
reduction in heart disease.
And this comes at a very timely moment
for us because just last week there was
a report that showed that about 75%
of Americans are either overweight or obese.
And in 1990, that number was just over
50%.
And the estimate is that 80% of
people are going to be so by 2050.
So this is definitely one of those wake
-up calls to say, wow, a lot of
people are definitely eligible for this medicine.
Eligible for this medicine?
Right there, the reporter that's given this native
ad, he says, well, gee, it seems that
we're getting fatter and fatter and fatter.
Why do you think that is?
Does he do that?
He does that, yes.
He does because of our other sponsor, McDonald's.
Come on.
It's obvious.
So the big question, who's going to pay
for it?
Well, does that mean that insurance has to
cover?
Because these are very expensive medicines.
They are very expensive, and that is the
rub, Savannah.
So if we're talking about commercial insurance, yeah,
there's a little bit more wiggle room there
in terms of covering for weight management.
But take a look at how Medicare covers
this.
It is covered for diabetes.
It's covered for what's called secondary prevention for
heart disease.
So if you're overweight or obese and you've
had a heart attack or a stroke, for
example, they will cover it.
But Medicare does not cover it for weight
loss management alone.
We have spent a lot of time on
our air talking about this.
I have patients who are about to turn
65 and are doing really well in these
medicines, and they already know that they probably
won't be able to get it covered by
Medicare.
So, again, it's studies like this that we
hope will definitely move the needle on coverage.
It's definitely something that's super important.
We need more studies.
Stop the clip.
More studies like this.
I want to know the logic of what
she just said.
She said, I have a bunch of patients
who are getting this drug, and then they're
going to be 65 and go to Medicare.
Now they're not going to get the drug
anymore.
Well, you can keep your old insurance.
There's all these other plans.
What's she talking about?
If you're affording it now...
You really need me to spell it out?
If you can afford...
Wait, let me try to psychically figure out
what you're going to tell me.
They're trying to soak the government for this
stuff.
Correct.
And she even says at the end how
exciting it is.
65 and are doing really well in these
medicines, and they already know that they probably
won't be able to get it covered by
Medicare.
So, again, it's studies like this that we
hope will definitely move the needle on coverage.
It's definitely something that's super important.
Thank you, Dr. Nettle.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Super important.
What disgusting network was this on?
NBC.
Yeah.
And they're doing these studies.
This is another thing RFKJ, as we call
them now, RFKJ is going after is, you
know, RICO for these studies and for the
medical journals and all this nonsense.
Can you play that clip again?
Can you find it?
That was the third clip in the series
that you played in the last show where
you kind of go after these journals, which
are just corrupt.
Here it is.
In fact, we had a...
Here it is.
I have the clip.
You ask, we play.
And, you know, also, I'll bring all the
medical journals, the New England Journal of Medicine,
the Lancet, JAMA, into the Justice Department as
soon as I appoint an AG.
And I'll say to them, you guys are
part of a racketeering syndicate.
You're collaborating with these pharmaceutical industry.
A lie to the American public about the
efficacy and safety of these products.
And you're causing enormous harm.
And we are going to sue you both
civilly for damages.
And we're going to sue you criminally unless
you come up with a plan right now
as to how you're going to stop doing
that.
So, I have, like, I have 100 things
that I'm going to do immediately.
Yeah.
Yep.
Beer for his life.
Yeah, I do.
I do.
I...
Yeah.
Because nobody's really got a plan to go
after these guys.
And everyone's freaking out with all the bad
information.
You know, they're smearing him left and right.
It's ridiculous.
Of course.
So...
He's got a lot of supporters, though, including
McCullough.
I'm a supporter.
Are you kidding me?
I'm all in on RFKJ.
We've always liked the guy.
RFKJ.
So, we were talking earlier...
He did that book on Fauci, the guy's
goal.
Yeah, that was great.
That was great.
We were talking about AI before the break.
And there's a new term, which I'd not
heard of, called AI pimping.
Have you heard of AI pimping?
No.
This is influencers on Instagram, TikTok, etc., who
are using stolen images, is what the story
says, of real-life adult content creators, and
using it to hype up their profiles.
So, what's your LinkedIn fake handle?
What's her name again?
You have a female profile?
Becky.
So, you could make Becky.
You could take a Scaramanga-type AI image
and make Becky an influencer.
And, first of all, make real money for
once.
Make real money for once.
Well, Becky has the potential.
Yeah.
And this is rampant.
And the adult content creators...
This is not a bad idea.
I already know where it's headed, where your
report's going.
And I think you might be onto something.
Oh, this is huge.
And this is another part of what's going
to take it all down.
This is going to create...
I think Darren O'Neill and I should
team up.
Yes.
We should bury the hatchet.
No.
God, no.
No.
You need to team up with Scaramanga.
He hates you.
So, you need to bury the hatchet.
Oh, Scaramanga would be...
Yeah.
Well, he...
Yeah.
And have him bring Becky to life.
Yeah.
Becky would have a profile on LinkedIn that
won't quit.
And, by the way, you can be an
influencer on LinkedIn.
There's money there.
Yeah, but I think you want to move
Becky to only fans and...
There you go.
One of the later ones, the newest one,
is Strip Chat.
You should check that out.
Sorry, John.
I'm busy getting clips for the show.
I don't know what you're doing.
Strip Chat?
Well, I'm looking for clips for the show
on Strip Chat.
I haven't found any.
Strip Chat.
Remember Chat Roulette?
Do you remember Chat Roulette?
Yeah, I remember that, yeah.
Okay, for those who are not...
Gross.
...to remember Chat Roulette.
Chat Roulette, you hook up your Logitech cam.
Gross.
Your little ball cam, and you plug it
into your computer, and do, you know, like
five frames a second.
And this Chat Roulette was a program that
you ran on your computer, and it would
just connect you randomly to a different person,
and then you could either decide to stay
on that person or just let it roulette
around to the next one.
And guaranteed within eight twists of the wheel,
there was some naked, hairy dude masturbating.
What?
Two.
Eight.
Every single time, you're like, Chat Roulette is
cool.
Oh, what did I just see?
I can't unsee it.
So what is Strip Chat?
What does it do?
It's a, it looks, I couldn't, I just
ran into it by accident.
It seems to be a competitor...
Accident.
With OnlyFans.
Oops, how did that happen?
Yeah, what?
What?
I don't understand.
There's gambling?
I don't understand.
And so it seems to be a competitor
with Snapchat, and it might be something that...
No, not Snapchat, you said OnlyFans.
Something for Becky to think about.
OnlyFans, you said, not Snapchat, OnlyFans.
Oh, I'm sorry, yes, you're right.
OnlyFans.
I'm telling you.
And there was another thing, I think this
came up, because there's a black guy that
has been putting up, and I think this
is on Instagram or it's on TikTok, it's
hard to say because I pick it up
off of Twitter.
This black guy has been interviewing or picking
up interviews done by these exotic dancers.
And I mean, I would have clipped some
of this stuff if I could, but it
was these exotic dancers singing the blues.
Some of them are kind of pretty.
I mean, they're like good-looking girls, and
they're singing the blues about, oh, the economy's
in the tank, nobody's going to strip clubs
anymore.
And it goes on and on and on
about nobody going to strip clubs.
And I'm thinking about this.
Strip clubs have got to have been a
fad to begin with, because I'm old enough
to remember, and you probably aren't old enough
to remember, topless bars, which had taken over
California back in the day during the Condor
era when Carol Doda had popularized it and
it became legal to walk around topless in
a bar.
These weren't strip clubs.
These were just bars, and all the waitresses
had no tops on, and it was very
common.
You were going to say it was dynamite.
I heard you were about to say it
was dynamite.
It was dynamite.
And that was like, all of a sudden,
boom, gone.
I think strip clubs are doomed.
So this, of course, Becky does not have
to take her clothes off.
Becky can just be Becky.
You do the writing, Scaramanga does the photos,
and you just have to do a day
in life.
Oh, good morning, everybody.
Becky's in her nightie, just getting out of
bed.
We can find a good voice.
We can have her talking.
Dame Jennifer.
No, no, we can use 11 Labs.
Oh, you don't want to cut her in
on the action, huh?
You just want to give it, okay, all
right.
Well, maybe she's got a good voice.
Sorry, Jen.
We'll cut her in.
We've got a Silicon Valley mentality.
Cut her in.
Anyway, this is happening.
You're actually probably a little late to the
game, and it is fulfilling.
Yes, this is the drawback.
It is fulfilling my prayers, which has been
to take down the digital towers of Babel
and fill their stairwells with AI slops so
they become unattractive to use, and this will
happen to every social media network.
They will just be filled with unbelievably pretty
women.
Yeah, that don't exist.
That don't exist, and it's going to suck.
And hopefully, and by the way, you could
make Becky trans and put her on Blue
Sky.
You'd probably corner the market.
I'm just telling you.
Again, I don't have a Blue Sky account.
I've never been there, but again, the Twitterverse
is grabbing these clips from Blue Sky and
reposting them, and some of the trans women
that are on there are just horrible.
Well, I don't know what your reference point
is.
Oh, my God.
Let's move on to another huge issue, this
time not in the pornographic sense, but in
the jobs market, there are some real problems
with AI and the job bots.
There's a new generation of AI job applier
apps.
So you go to a site, you upload
your resume, you give it some keywords, and
then it scans for the job boards.
It sees, oh, this position just got posted.
It adds the keywords from that job posting
onto your resume.
It writes a chat GPT-4 cover letter
for you, and it submits it on your
behalf, and so you end up with this
thing where this job gets posted.
It has been online for an hour, and
it's got 500 applications already, and none of
the 500 people that actually applied to it
have any idea that they actually applied to
it.
And so if a real person actually wants
to get in and try to apply for
that job, they're swamped in all of this
AI-generated garbage.
And the other thing that's really sad is
most companies now, and the more resumes they
get, the more likely they are to do
this, use AI bots to screen resumes and
make sure they have all the right keywords
and they have all the right cover letters
and all that kind of stuff.
And then the AI will rank the people
that applied, and it turns out that the
bots that auto-apply for the jobs train
themselves on the software that you can buy
that screens resumes.
And so it's a lot better at making
cover letters and making resumes that pass through
the screen of the AI screener bot.
So it's even harder for a real person
to actually get their resume in front of
a real person these days.
So we've got AI bots training on AI
bots, talking to AI bots, and it's a
losing proposition.
Once these AI companies start charging what it
actually costs, this will all go away.
But they're stuck in that loop.
They're stuck in the Silicon Valley loop of,
get audience, who cares?
Well, the Silicon Valley loops, that all began
with what was called, back in the 70s
and then 80s, what was called the learning
curve.
And that's what evolved into get eyeballs.
But the learning curve was developed by the
hard disk companies, who saw that these hard
disks were going to increase in capacity every
year, they're going to double every year.
So they priced them out for like two
years from now.
So every disk that you bought was losing
money, because down the road, they're going to
make all this money.
And it was called the learning curve specifically.
And that is the genesis for this eyeball
idea, where just keep getting eyeballs, eventually you'll
do okay.
Which was the basis for YouTube TV, and
it was the basis for Twitter, and all
the rest of them.
So the theory does work.
Well, no.
But it breaks most people.
It doesn't really work, because Twitter never really
did all that well, as a profit generator.
No, but it made somebody money.
And podcasting, meh.
You know, Spotify spent a billion dollars on
that concept.
Don't worry, we'll just get a whole bunch
of Hollywood stars, and we'll make them exclusive.
I know, I read that article too, you
said it to me.
The beauty.
Did not work.
So, it does not necessarily work.
And now, they're stuck between a rock and
a hard place, because they need to keep
brazing money to make the models better, you
know, which costs a hundred billion dollars a
model, starting choice, right?
Well, nobody's going to argue with you about
the fact that these things...
The problem you have with your argument is
that if it costs 50 bucks to make
one of these pieces of art, using the
computer and AI, and you're getting it for
free, you're not going to discourage people from
using it, you're going to make, wow, let
me get it while I can.
I'm going to get a free...
You know, I'm saving money.
They're shipping money with every piece of art
that they put on our art generators.
Probably a thousand dollars worth of art.
Yeah, but there's a couple other things here.
We have the entropy equation, because they're out
of content.
What they're doing now, the AI companies, are
now going to open captions, opencaptions.org, I
think, which is community-driven captions for movies
and television series, and they're now scraping all
of that, so guess how stuff is going
to sound when it's using movie scripts to
talk...
It's going to sound like a movie script.
Everything's going to sound like a movie script
or a Seinfeld episode, and it's not going
to improve, yet it costs more money, and
they need more energy continuously, and they're not
charging people for it.
So the equation is off.
You've taught me that Silicon Valley, it's always
the opposite direction.
We'll get the people now, it's expensive, but
as we move along, it'll draw less power,
it'll have higher output, it'll produce less heat,
and this is the opposite.
It's bound to fail.
Not once it starts producing more power with
less energy, blah, blah, blah, but yeah, we
haven't seen that.
I mean, generally speaking, Silicon Valley's based on
kind of a deflation model, which is always
surprising me.
Everything gets cheaper and faster and better, but
cheaper is the key to this whole thing,
and if it's not going to turn the
corner at some point and become cheaper and
faster, then it's violating the model and it
will fail.
Thank you.
And even people who had a great model
all figured out they're destined for problems too.
Hey, unless they can tell me who that
blonde's sitting there next to the podium.
These things are crap.
Punishing news for Google.
Yeah, we now know the specifics of the
U.S. government's line of attack on Alphabet,
Google's parent company, in the biggest antitrust trial
of this century.
The Justice Department has filed for the tech
giant to separate from its Chrome browser.
You probably use it regularly, along with three
and a half billion people globally.
It's also asked the D.C. federal judge
dealing with the case to warn Google that
if monopolistic misconduct continues, it should lose its
Android mobile phone operating system as well.
It all revolves around Google Search.
In August, the judge ruled that Alphabet had
maintained an illegal monopoly over how we search
the internet, reaping massive rewards from advertising as
a result.
Google's now hoping that the antitrust lawsuit goes
the same way as Microsoft's did in the
early 2000s.
That was thrown out on appeal.
But with the U.S. changing administrations, if
anyone tells you they know what's going to
happen, don't listen.
So this is interesting.
You know, Google has full control over most
of the browser market with Chrome.
Spinning that off, how would that change things?
I mean, will that really change things?
This is kind of your corner.
Well, if they're going to spin it off,
they're going to end up keeping a piece
of it, like NBC or like Comcast is
going to do with SpinSyn or whatever the
hell the thing is called.
I said it earlier.
SpinCo.
So they'll keep a piece of it.
It might actually make the company more valuable.
But I'm almost of the opinion that they
want to get rid of Chrome because they've
got these browser deals with everybody else, including...
Apple, iPhone.
iPhone, yeah.
Which is also under scrutiny, I believe.
It's a search deal.
Yeah.
And they seem to be...
Somebody told me this about a year ago,
saying, you know, you're kidding yourself if you
think that the future of Google is search
because they're dropping the ball on it anyway.
Oh, it's AI.
No, it's not AI.
It's data.
Selling data.
Yeah.
Well, they've been doing that.
And they've been doing that, and that's where
their real money is to be made.
And so, I don't know.
I really don't know.
I think the browser has always been...
Well, the Android apps, I think that's really...
If they had to give up Android...
That would be a big deal.
Yeah, I think that may be on deck.
That may be on deck.
That is a big deal because Android is
the market leader in the world.
There's no competitions come up.
You'd think something would have showed up by
now, but no.
And they can track everything through Android.
They track how you're holding the phone, if
you're walking the dog, if you're pooping, everything.
If you're reading in bed.
Yeah, it's worth money.
So, I have a question for you that
I've been racking my brain.
I can't figure it out.
Probably about a year ago, we talked about
Pegasus, the Pegasus spyware, which is the competitor
to the Israeli Paragon.
And Paragon got...
We had a couple of stories, I think
maybe even some clips, about...
And I think it was an executive order.
Biden said, Paragon is out.
And we can't have Paragon...
I'm going to make sure I'm saying it
right.
Was it Paragon?
Let me make sure I'm saying the right
one.
Yeah, no.
Yes, Paragon versus Pegasus.
And the Pegasus spyware was brought in by
the NSO group and was being sold into
the US government.
And that really happened between when Obama left
office and Trump came in for four years.
It was...
Remember Blinken and all those jimokes?
They had a lobbying firm, which was Mercury
something or other.
And they were the ones that were using
their contacts to bring in this Pegasus software
to get the Paragon stuff out.
And they had all these stories, oh, Paragon
killed...
It was on...
It was the reporters who got chopped up
at the embassy.
I don't know.
You remember the guy?
He was...
Khashoggi?
Khashoggi, yeah.
That, yes, that he had that spyware on
his phone.
And so we needed...
Yeah, that was the Pegasus stuff.
And so Paragon brought in...
They brought in venture capital guys.
They had, I think, Redpoint.
And they brought in this group that was
in DC who had just kind of left
the administration during Trump.
So there's this ongoing war about whose spyware
should we be worried about and whose spyware
should we have.
And so Pegasus is the one that is
the current Biden administration's darling.
But now we have Ronan Farrow.
Sorry, Satchel Ronan O'Sullivan Farrow, who has a
documentary coming out on HBO about spyware, but
only really one side of it.
And he happened to...
It's the view, but it's not horrible from
the view.
It's more about Ronan.
Listen to how he's discrediting one over the
other, and let's see what we think the
play is here.
These cases affect 450 million people.
It's a violation of their rights.
What we ended up finding was actually the
tip of the iceberg.
Spyware is this powerful surveillance tool.
Big spyware companies say they sell this tech
only to governments.
But this multi-billion-dollar industry is mostly
unregulated.
The most advanced spyware can turn your smartphone
into a spy in your pocket.
It can copy everything and record you without
you ever knowing, and then just disappear without
a trace.
So, can you tell our audience a little
bit more about what you mean by spyware,
and is there a way for us to
protect ourselves, even in the most rudimentary way?
Well, the film is about spyware hacking technology
that can hijack your phone, in the way
you just heard about, sold by private companies
to either governments who want easier access.
You know, even in this government, not every
government office has the CIS technology.
It is.
So this means just more people...
What?
I said, okay.
You said it was some other pharaoh.
Ronan's full name is Satchel Ronan O'Sullivan Pharaoh.
Oh, okay.
It's technology.
Right.
He's developing...
I just noticed this, but I heard him
the other day, too.
He's developing a lisp.
He is.
Good catch.
This government, not every government office has the
CIS technology.
Right.
So this means just more people can use
it around the world and here.
And the way to resist this is, there's
a few simple things.
Reboot your phone every day.
Really?
That's a big one, yeah.
Not every form of spyware is foiled by
this, but some are, including...
They always told us this at the Department
of Defense.
You mean turn it off and turn it
on again?
Yes.
Is that what you mean?
Yes, don't just leave your phone on all
the time.
The other thing is, this may sound obvious,
but keep your phone updated.
Uh-huh.
Okay, so...
All right.
So I'm already feeling, I'm smelling a rat
here.
I'm smelling a rat here.
He's already promised retribution against media, the media,
and journalists.
Do you think he'll use this spyware to
go...
Oh, no.
Now they're talking about Trump.
Yeah, now they're talking about Trump.
We have two people, including us.
I'll tell you, I've been talking to privacy
law experts all day, doing this new piece
that's coming out, and they all believe that
this is a moment where there could be
a free-for-all.
So that's where calling your reps can be
important right now.
They don't think the Fourth Amendment will hold
in terms of unreasonable search and seizure?
Can you explain what the Fourth Amendment is?
I think depending on who's running the Justice
Department...
The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution provides that
we should be safe and secure in our
papers, our effects, or our things from unreasonable
search and seizure, and that is government reach
into our private lives.
Well, the reality, Sunny, is that there have
been courts interpreting that, obviously, over the decades,
and what privacy advocates say is the case
law has really eroded how that principle applies
to data privacy specifically.
Now, there have been some rulings that are
more supportive of aggressive enforcement and some that
chip away at it.
There's a lot of loopholes, and what you
see in a lot of these Western democracies
where this has spiraled out of control is
you wind up with a situation where if
the judiciary or the executive branch is saying,
oh, there's some thin basis.
We came up with an excuse for retaliating
against a political enemy.
Suddenly, it's getting used against anyone that the
political people in power don't like.
And it's usually done under the guise of
national security.
Exactly that, and that's why the Department of
Homeland Security and ICE purchasing this tech that
I've been writing about from another company called
Paragon is frightening because what the experts say
is DHS is often the place where they
acquire controversial technology that's a little legally questionable
and then use it with the excuse of
national security.
Yes.
Oh, my gosh.
So, he's discrediting Paragon versus Pegasus.
Ronan, what's our government's responsibility in terms of
having access to this technology while also protecting
the rights of our fellow citizens, and what
are they doing about this?
Well, the answer is not enough.
So, in response to a print story that
you see me do in this film, the
Biden administration did pass an executive order saying,
okay, the U.S. government shouldn't buy foreign
spyware that's been used in abusive ways to
crack down on dissent and so on.
Now, since then, what we've seen is there's
these loopholes.
DHS can purchase this kind of technology.
Now, in this case, it's from a company
where the argument in favor would be it
hasn't specifically been used in an abusive context.
But what it illustrates is there's a lot
of loopholes, and we're not seeing aggressive enforcement.
And I'll tell you, Sarah, one thing that
I heard from all of these companies that
make this tech, in this film I get
cameras into where they code Pegasus, for instance,
in Israel.
They say, look, we're arms manufacturers.
We make a new powerful kind of weapon,
and it is a weapon.
There's hundreds of cases where this has been
linked to violence.
Wow.
And they say it's not our fault that
there's no Geneva Convention equivalent.
There's no international law preventing this from being
used in certain destructive ways.
So we do just need more of a
framework, and the U.S. government could do
that.
Framework.
It's going to take legislators really pushing them.
Good luck.
Exactly.
Good luck.
Is it time to go back to the
rotary phone?
Yes.
So I'm just trying to understand, this feels
like some kind of setup, because we have
two competing software pieces, and that executive order
came out against Paragon, which to me feels
like he's kind of going anti-Paragon and
pro-Pegasus, which is an Israeli spyware.
I'm confused by it.
Do you think that they're trying to rekindle
the business on the outside as they're preparing
to leave?
Or is this just completely random that this
documentary appears?
I'll have to watch the documentary.
Maybe we can come up...
It'll be revealed in the documentary.
There'll be some moment in there where you
go, oh, what's this?
Wow.
Okay, I get it now.
Well, it's on HBO.
Is it on now?
Yes, it came out yesterday.
I have not watched it, but I think
we should pay attention to this.
I've been watching a fascinating documentary on Netflix.
I only watched the first episode, but it's
interesting enough that you should want to watch
it.
The Vince McMahon documentary about his bio, the
guy who ran the world wrestling operation.
WWF, yeah.
It's fascinating.
And I would recommend people check it out.
And McMahon, currently, at least when they filmed
it, which was a couple years ago, his
whole face has become this kind of goofy
-looking thing.
It's just like, what's happened to you?
You have to...
All right.
It's just an interesting story so far.
I only watched the first part.
It's a multi-parter, huh?
Yeah, which I don't like that, but it
seems deep enough that it keeps you interested.
Now, I have some clips, just some rando
clips of...
Tulsi Gabbard's another person they're going after.
Yes.
And so everybody's favorite, Nikki Haley's decided to
take up the cudgel.
She's the one...
They're not bringing into the operation the Trump
administration.
And she's got a podcast on Sirius, kind
of a podcast.
And she, out of the blue, and you
can tell she's reading every single item here.
Out of the blue, she goes after Tulsi
Gabbard and why she should not be picked
to be the DNI.
Tulsi Gabbard, Director of National Intelligence.
Now, everybody loves that she is now saying
she's a Republican.
But I have always said, let's look at
what they've said, what their actions are.
DNI, that is the president's top intelligence advisor.
It's supposed to fairly represent the views of
18 separate intelligence agencies and units.
It has the authority over a $100 billion
annual U.S. spy budget.
A $100 billion U.S. annual spy budget.
And it holds sway over which secrets we
declassify.
That's a big deal.
This is a job for an honest broker
without any pronounced policy biases.
So hold that thought for a second.
Okay.
All right, let's hold that thought for a
second.
First of all, the DNI was created, if
you recall, during our show.
In fact, we voted for it, I believe.
You and I.
We said, hey, let's do this.
It's a good idea.
The DNI was done as a way, because
this was after 9-11.
Ah, yes.
And it was done to coerce, because 9
-11 had all these...
We screwed it up.
We weren't talking to each other.
It was no good.
They weren't talking to each other.
So DNI was created out of the blue
to make them talk to each other, not
to control their budgets or their secrets or
anything else.
And so she's...
This is bullcrap, what she's saying.
Of course.
It's Nikki.
So Nikki goes on there.
If you want to hear bullcrap, we're going
to play the...
If you want to hear...
You can stop me.
Yeah, I want to hear some bullcrap.
But if you want to hear more bullcrap,
everything Nikki says is like, wait a minute.
You just have...
This is one of the worst presentations.
This is a smear job, but it falls
on deaf ears to anyone who actually knows
what's going on.
So let's go next.
What are the facts about Tulsi Gabbard?
Now, is this just a straight-up video
where she's just talking to the camera?
She's reading this.
And it is a video.
And she's got some partner there who's named
Chaney.
I think is her first name.
Oh, really?
And this is some obscure, serious FM show
she has.
I never heard of it, but this was
played on...
It was recorded and pushed out there.
Let's get the facts.
She opposed ending the Iran nuclear deal.
She opposed sanctions on Iran.
She opposed designating the Iran military as terrorists
who say death to America every single day.
Every day.
She said that Donald Trump turned the U
.S. into Saudi Arabia's prostitute.
No, bitch.
This is going to be the future head
of our national intelligence.
In Congress, Tulsi criticized Trump's authoritarian strike against
Qasem Soleimani.
Now, I will remind you, he was considered
the master of death in Iran.
She said he had no justification whatsoever for
killing him.
She tried to limit Trump's war powers against
Iran.
She tried to cut our annual defense budget
so that we couldn't punish Iran and hinder
their influence.
Reminder, Iran is our number one sponsor of
terrorism.
Oh, my goodness.
And this is supposed to work?
This is supposed to change somebody's mind?
Or what is the point?
That's what I'd like to know, but there
was a little gotcha in there at the
end.
If you listen to the last couple sentences,
replay them, you're going to hear, wait a
minute, what?
She said he had no justification whatsoever for
killing him.
She tried to limit Trump's war powers against
Iran.
She tried to cut our annual defense budget
so that we couldn't punish Iran and hinder
their influence.
Reminder, Iran is our number one sponsor of
terrorism.
There were a couple things in there.
Well, the first one that got my attention,
Iran is our number one sponsor of terrorism.
Our, like us.
There you go.
Hey, we pay those guys good money.
Now, the point, and that matches our basic
dude name, Mohammed, and everybody else tells us
that this is bullcrap.
We're in bed with Iran.
Yeah, we pay those guys top dollar, sometimes
just pallets of money, cash money, to do
some terrorism.
And now, and she tried to cut that
off.
Horrible Tulsi.
So Nikki says that Iran is our number
one sponsor.
What?
Okay, so something's up with that.
So let's go on to the next clip.
She went to Syria in 2017 for a
photo op.
After Assad and his wife were in Vogue
magazine for their photo op, but we'll just
forget that.
With Bashar al-Assad while he was massacring
his own people.
Pretty much disproven, or as Nikki might say,
debunked.
She said she was skeptical that he was
behind the chemical weapons attacks.
Now, this to me is disgusting, because Cheney,
you and I were at the United Nations
when Assad did those chemical attacks on those
children.
And you can go back and look at
a speech I gave holding up pictures of
dead children who had been killed by chemical
attacks.
Remember that?
That was awesome.
For her to say that Assad was not
behind that, literally everything she said about that
were Russian talking points.
Every bit of that.
That was Russian propaganda.
After Russia invaded Ukraine, Tulsi Gabbard literally blamed
NATO, our Western alliance that's responsible for countering
Russia.
She blamed NATO for the attack on Ukraine.
And the Russians and the Chinese echoed her
talking points and her interviews on Russian and
Chinese television.
All right, hold on a second.
First of all, the White Helmets faked all
that nonsense.
There's ample evidence of that.
And the missiles were shown to be bull
crap.
They were actually sent by the other side.
And they were doing photo ops.
That whole thing was debunked, debunked, debunked.
And we did it on our show probably
earlier than anybody else.
The whole thing was a fraud.
Yeah, and remember it was Brad Pitt and
Jennifer Aniston driving around with Assad all buddy
-buddy, and then all of a sudden he
was killing children, and she had a picture
of it.
Dead children.
Remember when I held up dead children?
That was awesome.
She's a horrible, horrible, horrible woman.
And then the NATO thing, which we've discussed
to death.
Yes, of course NATO is to blame.
That's the premise of the last 10 years
of this show we've talked about, that ever
since Victoria Nuland and the cookies.
Yeah, and Brennan being there.
Brennan, everybody.
Okay.
There's more?
She's reading this from somebody who has put
her up to this.
I'm sure she bought into it because she's
not that bright.
The Boeing Corporation.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Onward.
Tulsi Gabbard pushed for dropping charges against WikiLeaks
founder Julian Assange and pardoning National Security Agency
contractor Edward Snowden, both whom were accused of
leaking highly sensitive U.S. secrets that put
Americans in danger.
Yeah, okay.
What Americans were in danger from that?
I don't know.
And what was wrong with that?
I mean, Trump probably would have done it
if it hadn't have been for, according to
rumors, this is not a provable fact, but
Trump wanted to because he liked WikiLeaks because
it helped him get elected in 2016.
So he would have pardoned Assange or stopped
it.
Yeah.
Assange is not even an American citizen.
How can you pick him up?
All right.
I'm glad it's only one last clip because
Nikki Haley is horrible.
Yes, exactly.
That's the point of these clips.
Oh, thanks.
All right, last clip.
So now she's defended Russia, she's defended Syria,
she's defended Iran, and she's defended China.
No, she has not denounced any of these
views, none of them.
She hasn't taken one of them back.
DNI, Department of National Intelligence, this is not
a place for a Russian.
Hold on a second.
It's not a department.
Isn't she the director?
Direct, DNI is Director of National Intelligence, not
Department of National Intelligence.
Am I incorrect?
Oh, good point.
Yeah, you're right.
So she's dumb.
Department of National Intelligence, this is not a
place for a Russian, Iranian, Syrian, Chinese sympathizer.
Hey, my whistle's broken.
I want that on my business card.
This is not a place for a Russian,
Iranian, Syrian, Chinese sympathizer.
DNI has to analyze real threats.
Are we comfortable with someone like that at
the top of our national intelligence agencies?
Oh, you know what?
I think I have to do it.
I have to break it out.
I got to bring out Tim Draper, venture
capitalist extraordinaire, with his partial rap of Nikki
Haley for president.
And Biden, who's dying to drain our reserves.
When voters come out, he'll get his deserves.
Yeah.
Remember that?
Remember that hit?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
The classic.
Oh.
Tim still thinks that Elizabeth Holmes was innocent
and set up, and he was just crazy.
I think to this day, he's just crazy
about her.
Oh, yeah.
He wants her.
Theranos girl.
Yeah, exactly.
Who's in jail, as far as I know,
if I'm not mistaken.
All right.
Is that how we're going out?
We're going out with this Nikki business?
No, I got more stuff.
I mean, I just wanted to play that
and get it out of the way to
show you what a smear is.
We're three hours in.
By the way, this is a lousy smear.
I'm just letting you know, we're three hours
in.
So before you say, oh, I'm too long.
No, you got to do.
You got to do one more.
Do one of your tick tock clips.
Everybody can be really annoyed by it.
Okay, well, I've got a couple of only
one.
You have to choose one.
I'm looking at him right now to figure
out which one to do.
I'm going to do the I know you
got you.
How about the oh, now this is actually
a good one because it's not a bad
one.
It's not a bad.
Oh, I'll save the bad ones.
The one where people are going nuts.
This is a very interesting little story.
Some girl developed.
She's a kind of a pretty girl that
that was bragging about how easy it is
to use dating apps.
And so one of her friends said, hey,
you think so?
A guy says to her, why don't you
be me on dating apps and tell me
how it goes?
And I thought this was pretty revealing.
Some of my guy friends gave me permission
to make a hinge account for him because
I was telling him how easy dating is
with dating apps.
And he was telling me that it's incredibly
difficult.
And I was like, Pete, you must be
doing something wrong.
And he gave me permission to create an
account for him and just run the account.
I've been a virtual boy for three days
and I've never felt this bad about myself.
I feel like a freaking loser trying to
get these girls to like me.
And I'm starting to hate women because I'm
like, when I say I, I mean, Pete,
because that's the account I'm using.
Pete's about a six, but I'm so desperate.
I'm liking the twos and the threes and
even they won't like me back.
Pete, which is a six.
So what level of delusion has entered women's
head heads?
What is going on?
It is so difficult dating as a boy.
I hate it.
I'm on day three of being a boy
and I hate women and I'm more depressed
than ever.
Well, you have just uncovered something very important.
This is the reason why men are becoming
women.
This is this is the genesis of the
trans Maoist revolution.
It might, you know, there's a possibility.
I'm going to show my support by donating
to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah.
Well, luckily, we don't have to worry about
that anymore.
We are both happily married and that's good.
Get old.
Speak for yourself.
We have tip of the day coming up.
We have end of show mixes.
And of course, we have the no agenda.
We got a couple of meetup reports today,
including the one from Busan, Korea.
So stay tuned for that.
As John thanks our supporters who gave us
treasure in the time, talent and treasure of
value for value.
Fifty dollars and above.
Yes.
And it starts off with one that has
a little note attached, which I want to
read because it's in Colorado Springs.
Clayton Peterson's in Colorado Springs to be specific.
And he comes in with one hundred sixty
eight dollars and fifty cents.
But he says this is a night stalker
donation in honor of the Army's premier operations
aviation unit.
The one sixtieth SOAR Special Operations Aviation Regiment.
The Night Stalkers.
Oh, yes.
DQ Night Stalkers.
Don't quit.
Nice.
What's going on in Colorado?
Nathan Cochran's up next.
He's in Franklin, Tennessee.
One, two, three, four, five.
Elizabeth Gunther in Round Rock, Texas.
A hundred dollars.
Mackenzie Armstrong in Chesterfield, New Jersey.
One hundred dollars.
Need some rain stick.
It's raining everywhere.
It's raining here.
Where?
Rain stick for where?
New Jersey.
There's some fires.
I don't think we can do it without
taking a horrible risk.
Yeah, I need some more evidence that it's
rain stick time.
Yeah, I agree.
Sorry, Mackenzie.
But thanks for the hundred.
Brian Lillard in Prosper, Texas.
Eight, eight, eight, eight.
Sir Brian Tobias in 8808.
Has to do with his anniversary.
8808.
Good man.
Yeah.
I'm 8888.
That's right.
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There he is.
He's the Archduke of Luna and a lover
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Came in with the classic 8008.
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She still likes the show.
She's been listening forever.
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What is it?
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Eric Asnes, I think, in Lawndale, California.
Asnes.
Oh, my gosh.
5150.
Andrew Benz in Imperial, Missouri.
5005.
And the following people, the short list that
we have today, at least we have a
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Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
Luke Olson in Alexandria, Virginia.
Hello, Alexandria.
Corey Bennett in Denver, Colorado.
Andrew Gusek in Greensboro, North Carolina.
Nicholas Rudowich in Harper's Ferry, West Virginia.
Jim Perotti wallpapering.
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Look him up.
He's on Google.
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And he says, your premium content sucks.
I'm canceling my subscription.
We lost another one from the bundle.
The bundle is failing.
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The bundle is failing.
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And last on our list is Baroness Knight.
She's up in Edmonds, Washington.
I want to thank these people for making
1714 show.
Actually, go on the air and get done.
And go long.
Go long?
What do you mean go?
Oh, go, the show go long.
Well, that's because of your Nicky clips.
Your Nicky clips, man.
Yeah, I was looking for this donation from
Allie Jade.
I don't see it, but I will read
her note because I'm sure she'll donate.
She says, good morning, Adam.
The church, my family, and support and attend
are doing a big operation to bring Thanksgiving
and Christmas to the whole town of Old
Fort, North Carolina that was badly hurt from
the flooding of Hurricane Helene.
We're going to feed everyone that comes, and
every child that comes is going to get
a gift from Santa and a professional Santa
photo.
The site is OperationChristmasCheer.com.
Denton Wesleyan Church is organized with many great
sponsors.
So if you want to help that initiative,
OperationChristmasCheer.com.
Now, I appreciate that you did that.
Allie, I would say, though, that you are
perfect to do a hyper-local podcast instead
of being in the donation segment of the
Noah Jenner Show.
You should start this right away.
Do it with the church equipment, whatever.
And if you want information, send me an
email.
I've got a whole primer on how to
start a hyper-local podcast.
I have now over 120 people who emailed
me wanting to start a hyper-local podcast.
There's nothing to sneeze about, which you just
did.
I was blowing my nose, actually.
Sorry.
Yes, she's absolutely perfect.
In fact, people should be doing that for
these sorts of announcements.
We're an international show.
There's not that many people we can really
influence to go to that event.
We're an international show, he says.
We are.
International show.
Well, thank you to these producers who came
in $50 and above.
Under $50 we don't mention for reasons of
anonymity.
We always appreciate the sustaining donations.
You can go to noagendadonations.com.
You can use any amount, any frequency.
And, of course, thank you to our executive
and associate executive producers who we thanked earlier.
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Very short list, but we're happy to say
that Jasmine McMahon wishes her son Ryan a
happy birthday.
Here's to a nine on November 15th.
We read that earlier.
And Eli the Coffee Guy once again wishes
his smoking hot wife, who really is running
all the business, Jen, a very happy birthday.
As do we.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best
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And, wow, no title changes.
We do have that one-nighting.
So, if you get your blade out.
Get your blade out.
The one-nighting blade.
That's the one-nighting blade.
Up on the podium, please.
Agent 99.
Yes, sir.
Thank you for your support of the best
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For you, sir, we have hookers and blow,
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Thank you.
And welcome to the No Agenda Roundtable.
No Agenda Meetups!
Yeah!
Yeah, these No Agenda Meetups are no joke.
And just to your point, we are an
international show.
Our meetups happen around the globe.
They had one in Busan, Korea, and they
sent us a meetup report as requested.
Hey, it's Mertegu from Busan saying ahui ahui
and Mofos.
In the morning to you all.
Hello, Mofos.
This is soon to be Sir Yap of
the Wageningen Food Valley.
Hello, I'm Andy.
I met my friend in Daegu and here.
I want to talk about the Korean culture
related to the real equality and communism.
In the morning, John and Adam.
I am Zina and I'd like to thank
you for creating a podcast that keeps my
parents sane and busy.
Ahui ahui from Busan.
In the morning, Mofos.
You'd think that Korea would have better gear.
Yeah?
Where were they recording that on?
Thank you, Busan.
We appreciate that.
Leo Bravo once again doing those meetups in
the Los Angeles area.
He calls it the flight of the No
Agenda and he checks in.
The train's coming.
Listen to that horn.
Hey, everybody.
It's Leo Bravo at meetup number 57.
Train's good.
Plane's bad.
Hello, this is Sir Leo Kim full pop
and I voted for Vermin Supreme.
10-4.
These things are huge.
This is Sir Thomas the Engineer.
In the morning.
This is Angie from the ranch enjoying our
time right here in Fullerton.
In the morning.
In the morning to you and Roger Roundy
along with DC Girl.
They did the spook meetup in Alexandria, Virginia.
The train's coming.
The train.
Oops.
That's not the one.
This is the one.
Hey, this is DC Girl from the Alexandria
meetup.
In the morning.
This is Roundy.
Hey, this is Sir William of West Pennsylvania.
Hey, John, your fictional third person's name's always
Bill and I take issue with that.
Dane Lee, I promise we're good company.
Don't listen to Roger.
Hi, this is Sir Bob.
Black night at Chesapeake Bay and train's good,
plane's bad.
In the morning.
Oh, thank you guys.
So, those are just a few of the
meetups that we had.
People love sending in their reports.
We love hearing it.
We love the camaraderie.
It is protection that you get through the
connection with your local first responders known as
the No Agenda Meetup attendees.
And as we speak, there's another meetup happening
in El Salvador, El Zante.
El Zante Beach, I believe, at the Sunset
Bar.
Pablo, make sure you send us a meetup
report.
Also today, the No Agenda New York City
No.
7.
That's always a pretty big one.
Bunk Bar Cafe in New York, New York.
Dan, love to hear a meetup report from
that.
North Georgia Monthly, 6 o'clock today at
Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.
The Charlotte Thirsty Third Thursday, 7 o'clock
tonight at Ed's Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina.
And on Saturday, the pre-Thanksgiving meetup, 2
o'clock in the afternoon.
Spada Farmhouse Brewery, Snohomish, Washington.
Hey, could Mimi go?
In Snohomish?
Is she anywhere near there?
No.
Okay.
Don't expect Mimi.
But you can still, whenever I say Mimi,
you think TooManyEggs.com.
And on our next show day, Sunday, the
IndyNA Tribal Count and Count and Count on
US meetup, 3.30 at Broad Ripple Tavern,
Indianapolis, Indiana.
That's Sir Mark and Dame Maria of the
Greenwood organizing that.
So they always send us a very professional
report.
Looking forward to it.
Also on Sunday, we're all going to die,
but not yet.
It has been postponed.
That was the New South Wales, Australia event.
That has been postponed.
Sir Chris Wilson was going to do it.
I hope everything's okay.
So we're just going to presume it is,
and we'll look forward to a new date
for that.
Just some of the No Agenda meetups that
are on the calendar.
We have them all over the United States,
all over the EU, all over parts of
Asia.
It is unbelievable.
You need to be a part of this
if you really want to complete your No
Agenda experience.
Go to noagendameetups.com.
Look for one near you.
If you can't find one, start one yourself.
It's easy and always a party.
It's like a party.
Yeah, baby.
Wow, I am low on the ISO.
Let me see.
I think I have...
You were low on the ISOs last show.
I figured you'd be load up.
No, I'm not loaded up.
I have two.
I have this one.
I should have bleeped it myself.
Bleep.
Yeah, I know.
It's horrible.
I'm into that.
That's not bad.
I kind of like that.
I'm into that.
I'm here to God.
What you got?
Well, I don't know if I can beat
that, but...
I have a couple of randos.
Okay.
Let's start with individual...
Something or other.
Individuality?
Yeah.
Individuality as our superpower.
Do a jackal.
Yeah.
How about this?
That's a jaguar guy.
Yeah, it's...
Not for you.
This is not for you!
Hmm.
We have some kind of a toss up
here.
Let me see.
I'm into that.
This is not for you!
No, I think that's...
I'm into that.
I'm into...
Are you into that?
I'm into that.
Are you into that?
Hello?
Are you into that?
It's not for you.
Uh, it's not...
I'm into that.
Hey!
You know what I'm into?
I'm into another tip of the day.
Let's get ready for JCD!
Greetings, guys, from you and me.
Just a tip with JCD.
And sometimes Adam.
And if I may, before you start, we
received several emails about the magic burn cream.
Did you see these?
No, I didn't.
No one sent me them.
No, I thought you were...
I thought you were copying.
Yes, we had Sam Williams says, the magic
burn cream that we talked about on the
previous episode, which you can find at tipsoftheday
.net.
Apparently, it is a chemical waste product from
paper mills called DMSO.
Oh, no, that's different.
I saw that note.
So, it's not DMSO?
In the burn cream?
Yeah.
No, that DMSO is a product that's used
for arthritis.
Okay.
Not for burns.
So, that's not what that was?
No.
Okay, well, you're the chemist.
And, um...
Well, I mean, I haven't got the burn
cream, so it could be cream DMSO, but
DMSO is a light liquid that is a
waste product that is used.
It's controversial.
Yes.
And it's used if you have arthritis.
Daryl Lamonica, the famous long ball-throwing quarterback
for the Oakland Raiders, he was a big
fan of that stuff.
Hmm.
We had another one, and he said, I
want to let you know, I did the
exact same thing to Paul.
My hand was about 16 years old.
This is kind of a sub-tip.
My grandmother was in the kitchen.
She was from Ireland, knew lots of tricks.
When I burnt my hand, she immediately pulled
out a regular potato from the refrigerator, raw,
cut it in half, and rubbed it on
the palm of my hand.
The starch from a potato will instantly neutralize
severe burns.
I mean, it's not really a product.
I mean, it's kind of weird to go
to Amazon to get a potato.
No, but this kind of a tip is
worth trying.
I just grab...
Get a potato.
I grab frozen food.
Well, you're going to love the burn cream.
You're going to love...
Have you ordered it?
Yeah, I ordered it.
I haven't gotten it.
Okay, good.
Anyway, that was just a little follow-up.
Time now for John's tip of the day.
Okay, there's a product that Mimi insists that
I promote because she's got one, I've got
one, everyone's got one.
Kids have got one.
This is the Bissell CrossWave Floor and Area
Rug Cleaner Wet-Dry Vacuum.
Oh.
It's called the CrossWave.
It's a...
If you have animals that...
Yes.
...accidentally make a mistake and pee on the
floor...
Yeah.
...this is for you.
It sucks it up.
It washes the floor.
It's good for...
It's good for cleaning linoleum floors or any
kind of hardwood floor, and it's also good
for cleaning rugs.
It's got two different kinds of brushes.
It's a dynamite product.
And what is it called again?
Bissell.
B-I-S-S-E-L-L.
You have a lozenge in your mouth, don't
you?
I do because I was...
Yeah, because I could tell you...
Do that or cough.
I do have a lozenge.
You're astute.
I just chewed it up and swallowed it.
Oh, no.
Okay, easy.
Easy does it.
It wasn't that big of a problem.
Bissell CrossWave Floor and Area Rug Cleaner.
Wet-Dry Vacuum.
I think there's a couple different models.
What is the price point on this item?
I think the cheapest I've ever seen them
is about $150, but they run around $219.
They're not cheap.
No.
But they're not expensive.
Well, if your pet makes a mistake, then...
It's also good for making the floors very
shiny and clean.
Yeah.
You know, you and I, we could do
a QVC show.
Don't you think?
Oh, I'd love to do.
Or home shopping there.
Either one.
Hey, hi, John and Adam.
I just picked up on that item you
were talking about.
You know, my dog makes mistakes, and boy,
that Bissell Wet-and-Dry Cleaner is really
great.
Yep.
And we go, oh, we're so happy you
picked up on that item, because we're almost
out.
We're almost out.
Yeah, we're almost out.
We sold 500.
We got another 20 left, only three in
the red.
We got five in the turquoise and one
in the cream.
The cream is going fast.
We can do it.
Oh, the cream, never mind.
The cream has been sold out.
We would be great at that.
And we'd probably make money.
We'd probably make more money than we made
today.
That is it for our show.
Thank you all very much for supporting us.
NoahJenTheDonations.com.
End of show mixes.
We had nothing new.
Nothing, zero, zilch, nada.
No new mixes.
So I pulled out Tidewater Architect.
Dog day.
Yes.
I pulled out Secret Agent Steve.
Paul.
Is it Paul?
Steve.
Secret Agent Paul.
Steve.
And a clip custodian, Neal Jones, for your
mixing entertainment pleasure at the end of the
show here.
We look forward to our next episode with
you, which will be this coming Sunday.
And remember, we're also working here on Thanksgiving
just for your entertainment.
Coming to you from the heart of the
Texas hill country, here in Fredericksburg, Texas, FEMA
Region Number 6.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where the rain
has stopped for a moment, but it's raining.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
42 degrees this morning when I walked Phoebe
in Texas.
It's chilly.
Winter is coming.
Remember us at NoahJenTheDonations.com until Sunday.
Adios, mofos, a-hooey-hooey, and such.
He's Trump, he's Trump, the president.
This month, the World Council for Health has
called for a global recall of all vaccines
because worldwide, 40,000 deaths with the vaccine.
We must acknowledge that COVID-19 genetic injections
cause far more harm than good and provide
zero benefit relative to risk for the young
and healthy.
These experimental gene therapy treatments can damage your
children as well as yourself.
The typical standard for any biological product is
50 deaths put off the market.
50, not 40,000.
They do not reduce COVID-19 infection, which
is treatable and not terminal.
So when there is a global recall by
an international organization, this committee ought to be
having emergency meetings.
Furthermore, the most recent data demonstrates that you
are more likely to become infected or have
disease or even death if you've been vaccinated
compared to the unvaccinated people.
This is shocking to hear, but it is
what the data are showing.
79% of people with chromocytes were fully
vaccinated.
That is pretty much factual evidence that the
vaccines have completely failed.
They can damage your heart, your brain, your
reproductive tissue, and your lungs.
your brain, your reproductive tissue, and your lungs.
Your heart, your brain, your reproductive tissue, and
your lungs.
This can include permanent damage of your immune
system.
They can damage your heart, your brain, your
reproductive tissue, and your lungs.
Your heart, your brain, your reproductive tissue, and
your lungs.
Your heart, your brain, your reproductive tissue, and
your lungs.
Don't worry.
Be happy.
Don't worry.
Be happy.
I think if we ever allow ourselves to
get to the point that we feel we
need boots on the moon to protect some
assets, to protect an American flag, or an
Apollo landing site, a historic landmark, we're in
trouble.
If Russia and China or other actors are
going to seek to undermine our capabilities in
space, we're going to be ready for that.
I also would like for our adversaries to
know what we can do.
There are some things that we can do
that I think would help chill their enthusiasm
for aggression.
I possess a stellar converter, the most powerful
weapon in the universe.
We do not want there to be war
in space.
We do not want there to be conflict.
We want all of mankind to enjoy its
benefits.
But...
The best podcast in the universe.
Adios, mofo.
Dvorak.org Slash N-A I'm into that.
I'm into that.