John C Dvorak: And they've literally scared their own pants
off.
Unknown: Adam curry. John C Dvorak,
Adam Curry: 2024 this your award winning Cuba nation. Media
assassination episode 1707
Unknown: this is no agenda,
Adam Curry: celebrating 17 years and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in FEMA Region,
number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all
asking the same question, What the hell is the appeal of Snoop
Dogg? I'm John C Dvorak. It's
Unknown: crack bottom Buzzkill. In the morning,
Adam Curry: I was asking that throughout the entire Olympics,
like, what is the appeal of Snoop Dogg? And people love him,
somehow. Who a Snoop Dogg? His
John C Dvorak: agent for sure.
Adam Curry: Yeah, there you go. Oh boy, yes. It's time to roll
out the big horns, like we do from time to time. 17 years
congratulations, John,
John C Dvorak: congratulations to you.
Adam Curry: Listen to these numbers. Yeah, we did we we're
still alive. We're still here. Seven so it's 17 years. Episode
1707 on october 27 that's a lot of sevens.
John C Dvorak: Ah, sevens. New number
Adam Curry: has very, very good numbers. Very good numbers.
Yeah. So what do you say? Four more years?
John C Dvorak: Four more years, four more years.
Adam Curry: I think we make it to 20 if one of us hasn't died
by then, 21 years has got to be enough of this. You never know
well, and right before the next election, right before,
John C Dvorak: right before it, yeah, which should be a whopper.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah. No kidding, yeah. That was nice to see Joe
uh. Showed everybody that podcasting is kind of important.
Unknown: I like that,
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah. It shows that also Trump can talk
forever.
Adam Curry: Ah, the weave.
John C Dvorak: What's beyond the weave? I've no, I noticed a
couple of things. He Yeah. I was reminded of Jim Rohn. I talked
about Jim Rome and his sports talk show a number of times in
the past, because there are elements of what he does. It was
a somewhat revolutionary although Rush Limbaugh is the
main guy. In other words, a guy goes on the air and talks for
three hours. Man a call maybe, and Rome would talk with, if he
was going to talk about a topic, he would repeat the topic three
or four times from different perspectives, in the same or
with different intonations. I would just keep going that way.
And he would do that throughout for three hours. Trump, he was
right at the beginning. He's going on about something, and he
just and he comes back to it, and he comes back to it, and he
comes back to it. I have to say that after listening to Brogan
in this context, I I put him in as a good cop, police
interrogator. Uh huh, yeah. Excellent interviewer. Over the
years, he's become one, and he managed to, without being a
jerk, yeah, push Trump right back onto the track that he
wanted to hear about because he had interests that he wanted to
hear about aliens. JFK, he put any and he would push Trump back
again, Trump, because Trump roams around like he'll come
around to some of the old story.
Adam Curry: Look at this chart. He had handouts
John C Dvorak: so and I got no clips from it, because, for one
thing, it was boring, I thought, because there's nothing new to
us. And if
Adam Curry: anything, I think it just showed Trump's personality
and willingness to just sit and have a chat for three hours. And
that was really what made it fantastic. I mean, that that's
what made it great, because, and we know that in the past, calls
have come in from Ivanka and from Eric and what's the other
one? Don Jr, like, yeah, yeah. Really, I want to, want to have
dad on the show, but you got to come to mar a Lago. And I think,
you know, Rose, Joe was like, No, I gotta go to mar a Lago.
Come here, and there'd be no time restriction. And I think
that's really, that's really the win here for Joe and for Trump,
because it he was, it was a call.
John C Dvorak: There's Joe will never have to go anywhere if
Trump, all people, Trump exactly had to go there, that means
everybody has to go so. So that was a super win for for Joe,
because he doesn't, obviously like to go in the remote. Of
course not. Why bother and so now he's got it made, but I I
have clips from, I thought was at the same time that was going
on, Tucker was interviewing Amaryllis Kennedy.
Adam Curry: Oh, she's the the CIA daughter in law, yes,
John C Dvorak: married to RFJ,
Unknown: the third. RFJ,
John C Dvorak: RF your. RFK, RFK, RF, l, whatever letter.
RFK, the third. She's married, and she and you could, I, I
don't know. We can run these clips later if you want. But
well, she Yeah. Go ahead. She went on for an hour, two and a
half hours, and unfortunately, it was like about an hour of
content because she was, you could tell, you don't know if
she's still a spook or because she was, you could tell she was
very cautious. She was not used to doing this. I've never seen
her before. I've never seen her and she was, she was very
measured in what she said about everything, but she said a lot,
and there's a lot of inside stuff that she brought out.
Well,
Adam Curry: I do want to talk about that. I just want to stick
with with Texas for a moment. And now I'm going to bring, I'm
going to weave it around to you, John, and weave Good luck. I'm
going to weave it around to you. So what was fascinating about a
lot of the this Rogan thing, I think JD Vance was on Theo
Vaughn, which I haven't seen it. People said that was quite
entertaining, and that JD Vance came off very, very good. So
then we dance,
John C Dvorak: is it better? Is better than Trump? I think,
Adam Curry: yeah, yes. Well, he's the translator, you know,
that
John C Dvorak: looked a little more mature, kind of weird.
Adam Curry: So the big thing that everybody was waiting for
here in Texas, a little further up the street in Houston, was,
once again, the psyop played out by the mainstream media on
people who love Kamala, we have some
Unknown: big news to share for the Harris campaign. Be hive,
none other than Beyonce, will appear with Vice President
Harris tomorrow in Texas for learning and NBC. Aaron
Gilchrist is covering the Harris campaign today from Georgia,
where she's set to appear with Bruce Springsteen, Aaron the
boss today. Queen Bee tomorrow. What more do we know? Queen Bee
tomorrow?
You know this is news that a lot of people have been waiting to
hear whether or how Beyonce might show her support for
former for vice president Harris. And we have learned from
three sources our team has that Beyonce will appear with Vice
President Harris tomorrow in Houston, Texas, and the source
says that Beyonce will perform during that appearance in Texas,
obviously, where she's from. So
Adam Curry: again, the oh, she's going to perform. And of course,
she did not perform. She did not perform. And I think a lot of
people were disappointed. Once
John C Dvorak: again, Boeing, Kamala, they were booing, they
were leaving, and some people had to wait at 10 hours.
Supposedly, this could be bull crap, but I don't I can believe
that they would just 10 hours for a free concert. Yes,
Adam Curry: yes. And then Beyonce comes up on stage and
and talks about how she's a mother. She's here, not as a
celebrity. Pay no attention to the outfit, to my entree. I'm
not a celebrity. I'm here as a mother.
Unknown: It's impossible not to feel the energy in this room,
the positivity,
the community, the humanity, humanity.
We are at the precipice of an incredible shift, the brink of
history.
I'm not here as a celebrity,
I'm not here as a politician. I'm here as a mother.
Adam Curry: Oh, listen to what she says. Listen to what she
says. She's here as a mother.
Unknown: I'm here as a mother,
a mother who cares deeply
about the world. My children
and all of our children live
in a world where we have the freedom to control
our bodies.
Adam Curry: I'm here as a mother to kill your baby. That's what
I'm here for. That's who I am. I'm Beyonce. Here is a mother
right away, right away. That's all that they have now, is
John C Dvorak: no, they have two things, no. Well, Trump
Adam Curry: is Hitler and kill babies. And so here's the short
one. So Trump is in in Texas, and here's your typical report.
And former President
Unknown: Trump also made a stop in Texas yesterday while
speaking in Austin. He compared Biden Harris border policies to
garbage
like a garbage can, like a garbage can. First time I said
it was last night. It was amazing speech in Las Vegas,
29,000 And people that arena. We set the arena record. That was a
big deal. Arena too. We set the record, but it was an amazing
crowd. The first time I ever said, I said it, I don't know,
just came out like a garbage can for the rest of the world. Trump
also appeared on the popular podcast the Joe Rogan
experience. He then left for a rally in Traverse City,
Michigan. The former president will be in New York City on
Sunday for a rally at Madison Square Garden.
Adam Curry: I see Kyle. He's going to Madison Square Garden
tonight. And of course, they showed a picture of Joe, like,
you know, one of those, his eyes all popping out. Oh, that's,
let's get the worst photo of
John C Dvorak: Joe. Pop that's what you do,
Adam Curry: in a way, though, in an in an interesting way, it was
kind of revealing for YouTube, because I think Joe texts me
like, 10 o'clock Friday night, and I'm like, is it up already?
So now it's been up for an hour, and so then I look at it and has
a million views. It's a three hour show. How can it have a
million views in one hour?
John C Dvorak: 06, okay, it can't. It can't. So,
Adam Curry: you know, obviously, all right, so how, how many
seconds are you counting YouTube? Anyway, I think it's up
to 30 million now, and that's just YouTube. The the, oh, we
were combating people pirating this feed on the index. We had
to last night, like, ah, there's another person who's tried to
get it in there and was trying to steal Joe's juice. So it's
quite the that's what you do. Yes, what? Just quite the
podcast. Quite the podcast. All right, so I now I think we
should listen to the spook. Well,
John C Dvorak: there was some other comment I wanted to make
about what you were going on about the going on about, yeah,
what's your name showing up and then not doing any performance.
Oh, yeah. Willie Nelson ended up being the performer. Did you
know that by I left that out of most
Adam Curry: reports? No. I mean, I saw spring scene from the
night before. And I don't know, I, I wanted to clip it like,
this has to be, this has to be doctored. It was so bad. He did
Dancing in the Dark acoustic, and it sounded so off and awful.
John C Dvorak: I believe it.
Adam Curry: I don't know. I mean, it's like, is that really,
Bruce? I didn't want to clip it for fear of you
John C Dvorak: know, yeah, looking like a suckered Yeah,
Adam Curry: but it didn't sound good. Well,
John C Dvorak: Willie Nelson was the guy who ended up performing
instead of Beyonce, and they showed picture. He's 91 go,
Willie. He looks like hell, of course. But then again, he's
always looked like hell, so there's no big deal, yeah, and
yeah, he was the head. It was the head. Can you imagine, you
want to see Beyonce and you end up watching, having to watch
Willie Nelson.
Adam Curry: Nothing, nothing derogatory about Willie Nelson.
But yeah, that that's like different audience to me, even
Bruce Springsteen, these kids don't want, I mean, it's just
no, no, I don't know. This is probably Laureen Powell Jobs
like, yeah, I can make a call to Bruce, I can make a call to
Willie. Can't make a call to Queen B, though can't make her
perform. She's not crazy,
John C Dvorak: no, and she's not going to do a cappella or
anything. Yeah, went
Adam Curry: for B, stayed for Willie. No, left, probably left
at Willie. Anyway, all right, so
John C Dvorak: Amaryllis comes on, Tucker now.
Adam Curry: Now we've played clips of her talking about her
spook, spook career at the CIA. I can't quite remember, but
there was something like the old guard was She's the new guard
and and the old guard was kind of chiding her. Do you remember
any of this? Not, not really, okay, all right,
John C Dvorak: but I'll say a couple of things about her. She
looks like a spook. She's got that girl look, you know, the
one that goes into the field. She was a fake art collect our
dealer, and she was
Adam Curry: good. That was her kind of
John C Dvorak: No. Uncover. It's called an uncovered spy, I
think, where she wasn't working for the, you know, she wasn't in
as a diplomat or anything at
Adam Curry: the right so it's not registered, is what we say.
She's not registered. You're
John C Dvorak: just a real free you're a real out there, real
spook, yes, real spook. And she was, you know, mostly in Europe,
I think in Asia and but she never went to South America. She
does talk about it, though. Now, the clips I have are very
specific ones about certain things. One is the first two
clips. And unfortunately, the first clip is a setup for the
second clip. And these are long clips, all of them, because
again, and I cut out all the pregnant pauses I could Good,
good work. It's still too long. She's still, you just hear her
grinding the gears about, can I say this? Can I say this? Can I
say this? She's got her spook filters up the. Way up. Yeah.
And Tucker is good at trying to get her to talk as much she can.
And she does bring out. And there's really these three clips
which amount to about six minutes of material. Really
bring out two. Two very, I thought, two very interesting
points. Hold
Adam Curry: on one sec. I only see two. You have three.
John C Dvorak: It should be Amaryllis on classification. And
Amaryllis on media corruption?
Adam Curry: No, I do not have that. I don't have her on media
corruption.
John C Dvorak: Well, they're all set in the same batch. Well,
Adam Curry: I'll double check the batches while we start, if
we can start with the other ones, you need to start with
media corruption.
John C Dvorak: No, no. Media corruption is last Okay, all
right, I'll check. So she's they're talking about, and I
broke into it about halfway through the discussion of over
because they're talking about bringing out the Kennedy docs
and some of these other things. And so the discussing the over
classification, which is a discussion topic of, I don't
know. I know way before this show ever began, it was always
being discussed. Oh, they're over classifying. They're over
classifying. And she brings out some reasonable an explanation
for some of it, but it's in clip too. But let's listen to her,
her setup. And here we go. I don't understand
Unknown: the justification for that, and I don't know why
nobody demands, like, want to declassify it. Like, why
shouldn't it's our country. All these people died. We should
know,
right? And I agree entirely. And I agree. I mean, the same
applies for the 60s. I think ultimately, you know, when most
Americans go to work for a third of their working week, they are
working for the government. They're working they're taking
that money having spent the day away from their family,
sacrificing whatever they would prefer to be doing, and they
don't get to keep any of it. They turn it all over to the
government. The government works for the people directly. I mean,
they are directly paid by the people. And if your boss asks
what you've been doing and you know, you say, sorry, I can't
tell you. It's classified. It doesn't cut it, you know. And
you know, are there? Are there moments where you know the
actual identity of a source who's, you know, preventing
nuclear war with the Russians is at stake, sure, but they're
actually quite few and far between. And, you know, I think
there is a bureaucratic inertia here. Some of it is, some of it
is CYA, and some of it is, you know, probably more nefarious
than that, but there is also a lot of bureaucratic inertia, and
it's one of the reasons I'm excited about the prospect of
Elon getting in there, but to do some surgery on on some of that
bureaucracy. But, you know, CIA 101, when you start that you
have this one week, you know, fill out your tax forms, get the
same as you would with any other job. Like, nothing sexy about it
at all. There's just, here's the insurance program, and the
person who's going to work in, you know, the coffee shop is
sitting next to someone who's about to go down to the farm.
It's just everybody goes through it. And the email client that
you use there looks a lot like Gmail. I mean, it's provided by
Google, and it has all the normal fields and then an
additional field that's for, um, for classification.
Adam Curry: Wow. Okay, couple things. One, she's borderline
frying in the vocals, which is a little irksome. Two, and
totally. Two, Tucker needs some help. He's got a hum going on
there in the background that is crazy if you hear that room. And
three, what Gmail. They're using a Google product at the CIA.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, here we go with the real kicker,
though, and this is and everything she's about to tell
you, having worked in an administrative state myself, I
believe this all to be true, and it's a it's a disaster. And here
we go, additional
Unknown: field that's for for classification. And it's a drop
down menu, and it, when it first drops down, it's all check boxes
with their own, you know, sub subsets. And it's hundreds of
different classifications, all different numbers and codes. And
you can hover over them, and they say when to use them, but,
but there are a lot. And we were told, in that first day, you
know, in that first course, you know, just to make it easy on
yourself, pick HCS 404, check box. It hit Save as favorites.
It'll come up every time, and then you don't have to worry
about it. Well, that's, you know, human compartment and
sensitive information. It's usually reserved for, you know,
the actual identity or address or identifying details of a
source that whose life could be in danger for what they're
doing. And yet, here it's being used for, you know. Know, I'll
meet you at 430 at Dunkin Donuts and everything in between good
and bad, nefarious and not. And the problem with that is that it
is completely exempt from any declassification threshold ever.
And as a result of this kind of administrative tweak, which is
either just to save people time, or maybe to, you know, reduce
the number of things that will ever eventually be published.
Now you have class after class after class of CIA officers
that, you know, just chronically make sure that every single
email they ever write will never see the light of day. And I
think that is being done across government.
So literally, the default is secrecy from the public. Yeah,
the default is you will never know. You never know how much
money was spent, what it was spent on, whether it was legal.
You know whether you spent that Tuesday away from your family,
working to pay taxes, and those taxes went to kill someone or
went to save someone's life. There's no no accountability,
and there's no way to know, and there's no way to know.
Adam Curry: Surprise, surprise. So
John C Dvorak: the default is set up right at the get go from
day one as a maximum and impenetrable classification that
never can be released ever by nature, by the nature of the
process, just like the let's just declassify all this crap.
You can't do it with that classification. And that's that,
including the meetup at the Dunkin Donuts, is now super
classified and to never do to see the light of day. Okay?
First is ridiculous. First of
Unknown: all, gambling.
Adam Curry: CIA. The CIA is doing this. Not surprised
John C Dvorak: at all. They're not the only ones. You have to
assume they're all doing it, of course, because that's the
easiest way to go
Adam Curry: on Gmail. On Gmail,
John C Dvorak: right? You
Adam Curry: gotta wonder, yeah, you gotta wonder if it's
encrypted at all or, I mean, the fact that Gmail so you're just
using a browser, okay, that seems really secure. All of that
sounds really secure to me.
John C Dvorak: It just sounds like a black Well, we have
Keystone con. We
Adam Curry: have a lot of spooks who will weigh in and let us
know about this email product.
John C Dvorak: I'm sure they'll probably just confirm what she
says. What's her say? You know, yeah,
Adam Curry: can you bring your own iPhone and use that as long
as you use Gmail? Okay? Way to go, guys. All right, I have the
clip. I found it. You're right. I found the the last one. Okay,
John C Dvorak: now they're talking of this is another, by
the way, that this went a long time this interview, and it was,
I think people should go track it down. And no, it's that good.
Adam Curry: They think. Is that good you recommend is that JCD?
I recommend it's
John C Dvorak: it's if you can put up with the vocal fry and
the pregnant pauses, and it's the pacing. Is she
Adam Curry: doing that because it's the filters, or because
she's interesting? She's
John C Dvorak: not interesting. Okay? Bucha, what she has to say
is interesting, but she doesn't present it in an she's not an
interesting person. She's just a kind of, I know how to she's not
uninteresting. She's not like a big dud, but she's just so rich.
She's there's a redistancy. She's like those halt it's a
halting style that, can I say this? Can I say that you can
just hear it going on in her head? Can I say this like it's
Adam Curry: a little affected by, uh, by being the campaign
manager for RFK Jr, because he also talks like that, not that
he can help it. Maybe they're just in sync with each other.
John C Dvorak: That's an interesting idea, because that's
a pot that's actually a possibility. So here now they're
talking about, we've talked about this on the show. She just
confirmed something. She does bring in a new point that I
never knew about, and I think it's kind of funny, and it's the
end. But they're talking about media corruption in the spooks
that are in the media, that are that are either helping the the
CIA,
Adam Curry: wait a minute, there's spooks in the media. I
thought the church commission got rid
John C Dvorak: of there is a piece of information that comes
that, you know, is not gambling,
Unknown: okay, which is the oldest, I'm
Adam Curry: sorry, can we play?
John C Dvorak: No wait, let me finish the setup. And so I
because, I because it just in law. I'm trying to, this is
already two minutes, and it's like a couple minutes before it,
you know, it could have been used, but I didn't want to do
it, so I wouldn't explain it. So there, you know, of course,
Tucker's like a gas at all this stuff, even though he's always
wanted to be a spook. Says so in his bio. So he's like, you know,
listening, see, how come I couldn't have done this. Job
kind of thing. And she's talking about the people that got, you
know, recruited, and then do the bidding of the agency, and then
the people that are obviously working for them now. And then
she brings in some stuff that I didn't know,
Unknown: which is the oldest exchange in the world, maybe the
second oldest, and seen it, and it goes on, you know, every day,
there's no doubt that there are also actual, formal sources
throughout the media. And always have been, you
know, what does that mean? A formal source in the media?
I mean, you know, an asset, somebody that would be paid by
intelligence organizations to to work on their behalf, play
stories on their behalf, and they
Adam Curry: literally come on CNN, and that says CIA agents. I
mean, how surprising is this
John C Dvorak: paid by intelligence? What she's saying?
No that this, I think that's different than a guy who's a
reporter for the New York Times, or a correspondent for NBC News
who's not doesn't say c i h under it. Okay, so like Jake
Tapper who just say something like Richard Engel, it'll say
something like that. Or Jake Tapper
Adam Curry: who just happens to be at the birthday party of the
the CIA director, just coincidental,
John C Dvorak: yeah, it'd be something like that. Brand fair
Unknown: organizations to to work on their behalf, play
stories on their behalf. And of course, that happens, you know,
all across the world, but when it
Adam Curry: happens in the United States and it's the end
of democracy, of course,
Unknown: well look, I mean, we have CISA operating, basically a
JIRA ticketing system for any tweet that the White House
chooses to that they would like to see deleted, even if it's,
wait a
Adam Curry: minute, JIRA, they're using JIRA. CISA. CISA
is using JIRA. Is what she just said.
John C Dvorak: Oh no. She Yeah, she says, and I'm not sure what
she's referring to. Yes,
Adam Curry: I am JIRA is an is a ticketing system, an open source
ticketing system that I believe was compromised in the solar
winds hack.
John C Dvorak: I'm glad you have that information at the White
House, but that's what they're using. Okay,
Adam Curry: well, sure that and Gmail that the
Unknown: White House chooses that they would like to see
deleted, even if it's in jest, even if it's satire, they just
put it in the ticketing is, yeah, well, what's interesting
about CIS is that it, you know, it's a part of the Department of
Homeland Security, but it's supposed to protect our, our
nation's infrastructure from terror attacks. And at the
beginning of the Biden administration, a decision was
made that information is infrastructure.
Oh, it is now. Is it just, you
know, an Orwellian thing to it? And as a result, in order to
secure it, you know, CISO was quietly empowered with the
ability, sometimes directly and sometimes through NGO cutouts,
to present to all the social media companies and Wikipedia
and Amazon, any content that was flagged as concerning, and they,
you know, bolo alerts went up beyond the lookout bolo, and
they held weekly meetings and said, you know, here, here Put,
put an enormous amount of financial pressure on these
companies saying, you know, that their legal protections from
liability would be withdrawn if they didn't cooperate.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Well, I totally believe that, yeah,
yeah, completely, but
John C Dvorak: I never knew about the information is
infrastructure. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah.
And then I was looking at the cybersecurity, infrastructure
security agency, which was only founded in 2018 Yeah.
Adam Curry: They're supposed to rig the elections. I mean,
protect the elections.
John C Dvorak: So the idea that I was thinking about, can you
make the argument? And I can see making it that information is
infrastructure. I mean, it's a stretch. It's a big stretch, but
could be I can I under you can see these bureaucrats. It's like
that, that character that was out of the University of
California, that law professor, I think, is Wong or Lee, or
Wang, or whatever his name is, judge who wrote the he wrote the
MA about torture. He wrote the torture.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, I know who you're talking about during when
he's in the hospital and they made him sign off on something.
That guy. No,
John C Dvorak: no. This guy's still around now. He's not
somebody different. Well, it's. There's a lot of that that goes
on, but, yeah, this guy, this is a legitimate legal document that
was used as a rationale for torture, and very famous during
the Bush administration and that kind of thing. You can kind of,
you know, if you're smart enough, you can make
information. You can convince yourself that information is
infrastructure and then then use it as leverage Well, I
Adam Curry: would say information, in general, in the
legal sense that creates a legal framework, is infrastructure,
and that's just information along the same lines. No,
John C Dvorak: it could be an argument. I could see it, by
Adam Curry: the way. It wasn't JIRA. It was Confluence. I
apologize, but JIRA is just it's a ticketing system. We had that
Emilio we used, hey, put it in the JIRA. Hey, man, this thing's
broken. Put it in JIRA. It's just a ticketing system that was
interesting. Well, along these lines, last night, rob the
constitutional lawyer and his lovely wife, Maggie, invited a
couple of people to go out to dinner. It was, I would say, was
to celebrate, no agenda, 17th anniversary. He picked up the
picked up the Tet No, no. There was a celebratory toast
specifically for our 17th anniversary. And invited the ER
doctor and his wife, Tina, and myself and two friends. And I
didn't know these two friends, and he had just hit them in the
mouth, but it was in kind of an odd way, where he was trying to
play our last episode on the Bluetooth in his car, and it
kept getting stuck on sex event. So they don't really know about
our show much, because it just we were talking about sex
events, and then so they said, Well, this is an interesting
podcast. You're trying
John C Dvorak: to play like the only time we've ever done that.
So
Adam Curry: they're my age, and he is. He's a corporate lawyer
now, and she is a middle school teacher. I'm not going to use
their names, because we didn't just didn't discuss that. I was
going to talk about them. But hey, don't have dinner with me.
And pretty quickly, pretty quickly, Rob says, Oh no, you'll
love these guys. And then just, you know, just to live up and
live up in the Plano, whatever. Well, in the mid 80s, where'd
you guys meet in the mid 80s? We met in Germany. Oh yeah, we were
both in the Air Force. Oh, so it turns out they were both NSA
agents at the Russia desk, Russia division in Germany. So
we had some things to talk about, and they were they didn't
tell me about any of their ops, but they did have some
interesting observations, and one that kind of relates to this
is that there's kind of a joke around the intel community that
25% of the intelligence community is walking and they're
either walking in the Pentagon, or they're walking in the
hallways, or they're getting from one place to the other.
Literally, 25% at all times, is just walking around. And you
could cut so much waste by just having people sit at their
desks. And so as I'm talking to them, 25%
John C Dvorak: of the entire intelligence community is
walking wondering would be a probably wondering,
Adam Curry: wandering, wandering is better? Yes, wandering. And
so, you know, I'm just talking a little bit because, you know,
NSA, yeah, they do spying, but there's also some level of
psychological operation. And so we get into some stuff. Because
what I'm hearing around here from a lot, and we've discussed
this on the last show, is the grid's gonna go down. There will
be no election. There are already gangs inside the
country, and they have kill orders for Border Patrol. Oh,
I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. A lot of fear mongering
about China that Xi specifically wants to disrupt our elections.
And, you know, and so as I'm kind of thinking through that,
didn't discuss all of this with them, but as I'm thinking
through this, there's a lot of China that is in all of these
stories. And let's just follow the money for a second. Remember
the Smith Mundt Act, which specifically disallowed
propaganda on the American citizens, was reformed during
Obama and where was it reformed in the NDAA, the National
Defense Authorization Act. So it was a military move to get that
taken out, and this is all, you know, NSA is also a part of Dia
it's not the CIA. It's, you know, it's the military guys.
It's the they're part of, are they part of naval I think,
yeah, because Admiral runs it right. So they're part of the
naval operation. That's
John C Dvorak: not, I don't they're totally independent.
This is,
Adam Curry: I. Telling you, from what I heard last night, they
are not independent. They are more related to the military
than anything else.
John C Dvorak: Okay, they're supposed to be independent. Oh,
okay, and
Adam Curry: the CIA shouldn't use Gmail. I mean,
John C Dvorak: there's no rule about that. No, CIA is
independent too, but
Adam Curry: the but those guys were very irked when the FBI was
using their systems just gather information. So
John C Dvorak: yeah, they were still, yeah, they got the
password so they could use their crazy again. We talked about
this years ago.
Adam Curry: They're all against the CIA and the FBI they had.
They're in a very different camp. So let's just review for a
moment what we have going on the new psychological operations,
which I believe is being passed down through ranks, through much
lower level guys, has some waldens. There's another there's
a whole bunch of guys running around, who are, you know,
psyching out people like Laura and and Nomi Wolf and all these
other people and and it's somebody's doing it. Well,
listen, it's like China. We have da this middle aged military,
military age Chinese men here, they're gonna attack us from
win. Chinese are buying land next to bases. Chinese drones
are flying over bases. And now you think about Trump. Trump has
already said that, first of all, China, they need us as much as
we need them. We're their customers. Let's just be honest
about it. We may not need all of their manufacturing, but Trump
will take their need most of it, but Trump will take the you
know, tariffs. Trump with the China virus, Trump has a hard on
about China, so he's kind of perfect to be the next
president, if you take into account that China the pivot to
China. You know what? He's already said, we're going to
build big, beautiful ships. All of this stuff is happening.
China. China. Remember, Newland was kicked out of state. She
didn't get the job she wanted. Replaced by a China guy, Kurt
Campbell, who played a whole bunch of clips. And now we have
the perfect setup with the new Ukraine, which is Taiwan. It
makes so much sense. Russia has old news. We're going to wrap
that up. You know, whatever it can go on for a good time, but
there's no new no new money. We need new money. We need to build
stuff. And then, coincidentally, this happens. Sources
Unknown: in the US say suspected Chinese hackers have targeted
Donald Trump and his running mate for the White House JD
Vance phones associated with the campaign of Democratic nominee
Kamala Harris may also have been targeted. An FBI statement
didn't give any names, but said it was investigating what it
called unauthorized access to commercial telecommunications
infrastructure by people associated with China. Was not
clear. It was not immediately clear what data, if any, had
been accessed,
if any, of course,
Adam Curry: it's like it's a total non story. But let's not
forget, we've got Taiwan in the mix, paying
Unknown: his respects to soldiers who lost their lives.
Taiwan's President reaffirmed his country's sovereignty.
Today, gunning to is more than just a symbol of military
victory, it also represents our determination to protect our
country. We will not yield an inch of ground in Taiwan.
While Lai did not mention China explicitly, he was referring to
the 1949 battle of gunning to against Beijing's People's
Liberation Army. China claims it as its own territory. There has
been a fortnight of intense military activity in the Taiwan
Strait which separates the two. This includes live fire drills
near the island and the Transiting of a Chinese aircraft
carrier group through the Strait on Wednesday, China's foreign
ministry has said there's nothing wrong with conducting
military activity in the area
Taiwan. Taiwan
is Chinese territory. It's perfectly normal for Chinese
aircraft carriers to sail in its own territory. And territorial
waters both sides of the Taiwan Strait belong to one China
Beijing
severed high level communications with Taipei in
2016 and has since ramped up military and political pressure
on the self ruled Ireland.
Adam Curry: So even though the military could completely run
this with the Kamala Harris walls presidency, it's much
easier to go with the guy who already has a hard on for him,
like Trump has to be the guy. It makes no sense otherwise,
because they're psyching out everybody, particularly
conservatives, Republicans. Yes.
John C Dvorak: Yes, yes, the Harris walls could do it, but
except if you're gonna, if you're gonna go with your thesis
that this whole thing is set up for Trump, because it makes more
sense. It also makes more sense that it would go for Trump,
because walls is a China file. Yeah, he's no good. Been there a
million times. Yeah, married there. He loves the place. He
wanted to sell off, and he's goes, he's there,
Adam Curry: excellent point. He's the wrong guy. He's the
absolute wrong guy for the job. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: he's pro China. He would, he would turn the
country, he would turn the US over to China if he had a
chance. So
Adam Curry: what we need is, when you get everybody all
jacked up and make sure that we get everybody out to vote for
Trump, particularly the Christians. Get everybody out
there, everybody, oh, if you're and you're watching online, I
mean, how many podcasts have we not seen in the past year from
the culture war economy, who are all talking about China? And
it's one out, it's continuous, the drones over the bases. Oh,
they're buying land next to bases. Oh, they've got police
stations in which is true, but,
John C Dvorak: but, and by the way, one of the biggest ones is
in Minnesota. There you go.
Adam Curry: There you go. So yeah,
John C Dvorak: Minneapolis has one, so you've done nothing
about it, and I, and,
Adam Curry: you know, Trump probably is on to this. He's
like, Oh, this is good, you know, I can get the tariffs in
and we can build. I mean, we still need an economy, by the
way, the
John C Dvorak: police station story is sketchy. I mean, yes,
they're there, and there's one, and there was one in New York. I
think they're rousted it. I think there was one out here
too. There's still one in Minnesota. And they, you know,
keep an eye on the on the Nationals, and they're supposed
to be, they threaten people, and then they set up shop in the
universities. Yeah, there's horrible these people. They're
trying to they're, yeah, I can see where you can get all worked
up, yeah.
Adam Curry: And so we need that. We need this groundswell, and we
need Trump, because besides a large amount of money that's
going to be spent on this wonderful Iron Dome over all of
America, a missile defense shield. They call it Star Wars.
You know, he'll also get his tariffs and all that stuff will
work out just fine. Well, you
John C Dvorak: have to get, there's an angle on that missile
defense system too. You have to understand. And I think as part
of it, this whole thing, I'm good, I'm gonna just back you
up. Oh, nice. And it's like, well, you know, Reagan wanted to
do this, but the technology wasn't the same as it is today.
So today's technology, because, you know, everything's changed
since 1980 today's technology makes it possible, and then we
have and then we have the bull crap. And I have clips on this
to the bull crap that went on between Israel and Iran. We'll
get to that in a moment. Yeah, we'll get to that. But, but
that, wait a minute, that that incorporates the this new
technology, because the 180 missiles that were sent over
from Iran didn't that, oh yeah, that hit nothing, except some
poor Palestinian who, I think, got hit by some debris.
Adam Curry: We know, we don't think rocket. We saw the shell
John C Dvorak: fall on these terrible video very and so they
the 180 missiles couldn't do any damage because of this new
technology, which is what we're going to employ to keep and do
this. So we have to worry about anything. I mean, this is, like,
the whole thing is beautifully structured.
Adam Curry: Here's only one thing that there's just, it's a
little bit of a side, a side track, but it has to do with
spooks. You know, one of my big eye openers before we even
started the show was the book legacy of ashes. And if you
recall this, so legacy of ashes a story about the CIA written by
Tim Weiner, or Weiner from former New York Times. He went
on to write an FBI book, which sucked, but the CIA book, I
remember calling uncle Don and saying, is this true? And he
said, Yeah, that's pretty much how I remember it. So what I
don't understand is Mike Benz, who I think we both appreciate
for what he does. He goes on a 15 minute rant slamming this
book. Listen, I clipped a little bit of it.
John C Dvorak: Tis legacy of ashes. This book is terrible.
This is the book you're supposed to read that you're told to
read, to know what the CIA does garbage. And everyone talks
about it like, it's this big Bible of CIA. It's dog water.
It's awful, like, the whole point of legacy of ashes. Like,
yeah, the CIA does all this terrible stuff.
Unknown: It's morally dubious. It causes all this blowback in
disaster and human rights disasters,
but they're bumbling, stumbling fools. You don't need to worry
about them.
They don't do anything right?
They're so silly. They're such silly juices. I.
John C Dvorak: Would it be nice if the CI just stopped being
such silly goose as he
Adam Curry: goes on and on and on about this. I don't
John C Dvorak: understand. Don't you think that this is to draw
attention to the book, to get it back in play?
Adam Curry: Didn't, didn't seem like it to me. Well, I've
listened well that now you, you've opened my mind up to
possibilities here that's, yeah, okay, because I haven't heard
anybody say, Oh, you have to read legacy of ashes. Except us.
I've how many times has someone mentioned this book to you in
the past 17 years? None,
John C Dvorak: exactly. But this will get your attention. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Okay, good point. Good point.
John C Dvorak: So it's time to reread the book.
Adam Curry: Uncle Don is Adam. I'm not gonna
John C Dvorak: read that book. I
Adam Curry: don't think I can have the same conversation with
him anymore before we go to anything else. Let's
John C Dvorak: just stick with no, he's still but heard about
Hillary losing, isn't he?
Adam Curry: He does not like Trump. He's like Trump is no
good. He thinks Trump is horrible. But he's been out of
the game for quite a long time, and I give him all honor, all
John C Dvorak: his own opinion. Maybe Trump is bad,
Adam Curry: but he was the guy that said to me, yeah, uh, North
Korea, whenever we need to sell some military stuff, we just
rattle North Korea around the media. He that was his. He's
almost Trump,
John C Dvorak: who's did a good job of stopping that, yeah,
maybe that's the reason he doesn't like Trump, following up
these great. This
Adam Curry: is no good curry. What did you? Did you? Did you
leak this information? Okay, so let's just stick with the with
the election for a little bit. First of all, we have to
understand, no matter what we say, no matter how we look at
it, this race is tight, John, it's tight. I mean neck and
John C Dvorak: neck and neck and neck,
Unknown: vice president and former president bashing each
other while rallying their supporters as both sides count
down to November 5.
We've got just 10 days left in one of the most consequential
elections of our lifetime. Kamala
Harris and Donald Trump crisscrossing the swing states.
HARRIS in Kalamazoo, Michigan this afternoon, pushing what she
calls a fresh start in her economic plan to help middle
America. Trump also in Michigan, and then at State College of
Pennsylvania, vowing to close the border and bring down the
cost of living. We have nine
days to go to total victory, and then we're going to have a
different kind of a victory. We're going to turn our nation
around.
Harris, introduced by former First Lady Michelle Obama, the
campaign focusing on reproductive rights, she
will fight to restore our reproductive freedoms and
defend our health. Michigan Senate candidate Mike Rogers had
a strength for Trump and the economy we lost
in the last four years, 20,000 manufacturing jobs under
Democrat policies coming out of Washington, DC,
both candidates trying to appeal to the undecided electorate
votes that could push them over the finish line to win. This is
going
to be the greatest victory in the history of our country. It's
going to be an exciting it's going to be an exciting night on
November 1,
and make no mistake, we will win
both feeling very confident for Harris and Trump. The
Presidential election all comes down to the seven battleground
states, and the most crucial is Pennsylvania, with its 19
electoral votes,
Adam Curry: a clip that I found that we've kind of been looking
for, is the pronunciation of Vice President Harris's first
name, which, if you do it wrong, you're racist. What is now the
official pronunciation? Is it Kamala? No, it's Kamala. Kamala.
And by the way, thank you to all of the Chicanos, which turns
out, is not a slur. Thank you. I
John C Dvorak: never thought it was. I thought you were laughing
at it because it was a dated reference. Well, I didn't know
you were laughing because you thought I was. I said a slur.
Adam Curry: I didn't know either. But a lot of people
email and said, No, no, that's good. And they all said, Hey,
I'm glad you guys finally caught on about the came along, because
I came alive. Yeah, they should have emailed this a long time
ago. We didn't know about this. You had to
John C Dvorak: hear from your gardener, but now that you
mention it, yes, with that, what's up? Our audience is
remiss.
Adam Curry: Our producers, producers, you got to get on the
stick. So this is a 45 second super cut of every single
leftist media personality, and I think even a few Democrat
politicians mispronouncing her name, Kamala Harris,
Unknown: Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala
Harris, Kamala Harris.
Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris. People
like Kamala Harris, but as Kamala said, Kamala Harris,
Kamala Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris,
Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris,
Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris.
Kamala
Harris is Kamala Kamala
Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala
Harris, Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris was a very good
prosecutor. Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris,
Kamala
Harris.
I know her.
And was first Biden and Kamala Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris,
Kamala
Harris, Kamala
Harris, Kamala Harris. Into the cat
is Kamala point, Kamala
Harris, Kamala
Adam Curry: Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala
Unknown: Harris, Kamala
Harris. Was talking about this.
Kamala Harris, Kamala
Harris, Kamala
Harris, Kamala Harris. This
will be my favorite at the end, like Kamala Harris.
Adam Curry: So you know, yeah, who
John C Dvorak: are these phony baloneys Kidding? They're
Adam Curry: all phony baloneys. But now, John, we have a new
October surprise. He said, new October surprise right on the
cusp this
Unknown: morning, a startling new report, startling
Adam Curry: from the Washington Post. It's startling about
Unknown: one of Donald Trump's most ardent supporters, Elon
Musk,
this is no ordinary election, a regular from
the campaign trail, and according to the Wall Street
Journal, the tech titan in regular contact with Russian
President Vladimir Putin 2022 the discussion said to focus on
personal topics, business and geopolitical tensions at one
point, according to the journal, Putin even asking musk, who says
he holds top secret clearance, to hold off activating one of
his Starlink satellites over Taiwan as a favor to China's
President Xi Jinping. It's not known if Musk oblige the journal
saying the contacts raised national security concerns,
given the ties between musk, Space X and the US military and
intelligence agencies, but a person aware of the
conversations told the journal, there have been no alerts raised
over possible security breaches. Musk has not responded to the
allegations, but when asked in 2022 if he had spoken to Putin
about Ukraine. He posted, I have spoken to Putin only once, and
that was about 18 months ago. The subject matter was space.
Earlier this year, President Putin himself praised musk in an
interview with Tucker Carlson on Musk's own X platform, calling
him unstoppable, and Russia this morning, strongly denying the
Wall Street Journal report saying it did not happen. All of
this comes, of course, as Donald Trump swirls in controversy over
his praise of Vladimir Putin and denials that he has been in
regular contact with the Russian leader since leaving office.
John C Dvorak: Okay, first of all, that's Martha radnitz, yes,
rad. It's
Adam Curry: rad, it's rad, it's
John C Dvorak: and she's no good. She's the one.
Adam Curry: It was a whoop, but it's a WaPo report, who are, of
course, also no good. This
John C Dvorak: is all no good. But they're mentioning the WaPo
though I thought was the Wall Street Journal there, but it was
walk. Oh, I there was a now there's a ball. Tells broken
loose at the WaPo. Because, oh, you
Adam Curry: have the clip. I have
John C Dvorak: the two clips. Okay, good, good, good.
Adam Curry: WaPo. One,
Unknown: the motto of the Washington Post is democracy
dies in darkness. I like the marbles in this guy's mouth. Yet
in these closing days of a presidential campaign that polls
say is close, the post has announced it would not endorse
any candidate in the rest of the White House. Oh no, it's for the
first time in decades. NPR media correspondent David Fauci flick
broke the story and joins us now. David, thank you for being
with us. Pleasure. Pleasure post is known for its political
coverage. It's the paper that broke the Watergate story and
many more without fear or favor movies. Why is it stepping away
from making an endorsement in this presidential race?
So let's go first to The stated reason, posted yesterday, just
before noon, from the publisher and chief executive will Lewis.
He says that the post wants to return to its roots independent
of partisan interests. It sort of has for decades style itself
as an Independent newspaper under owner Jeff Bezos. He said
they are going to for the future, not endorse in
presidential races, and seek to attain that now, this was a
paper that has been editorially, largely supportive, not
uniformly, but largely supportive, of the Biden Harris
administration. There had been a draft of an endorsement in the
works endorsing vice president Kamala Harris for the
presidency. And you know, this is a newspaper that has been in
the vanguard of reporting on former President Donald Trump's
alleged wrongdoing and potential illegalities in office, and has
denounced him editorially for that. I. On its editorial pages
all throughout that proposed endorsement, which had been
embraced by the editorial page editor. Doesn't come as a
surprise, but right now, if you're looking at it on its own
terms, the explanation you look at a time when the media is
under attack, trust is at record lows, particularly among
conservatives, especially among Trump supporters. This is, on
its surface, an effort by the owner, Jeff Bezos, to try to
remediate and address that.
What's the reaction been like at the post? Well, because of the
Trump post record in its reporting and because of its
strong opinions talking about Trump being unfit for office in
its separately run editorial side, particularly as a result
of the January 2021, efforts to deny President Biden's
certification of his win, there's been fewer there's been
tumult inside the post and to some degree outside of as well.
Resignation of Robert Kagan, a long time columnist, editor at
large, he's been warning for years of Trump as an
authoritarian in the making. Robert
Kagan is no liberal either. Before
Adam Curry: we go to the next step, I have some questions for
you. So one Kagan, who was Victoria Newlands, husband,
John C Dvorak: yeah, neocon, war monging, mongering, epic war
con. But there's no liberal, quote, unquote, no liberal. All
the Neo cons came from the liberal side of things. So let's
get that straight.
Adam Curry: What is the function of the editor at large? Is it
just an editor who's a big guy, or is there some function that's
specific, that's not the editor, the editor at large. Is he at
the top of the food chain?
John C Dvorak: No, the editor at large is largely a, I thought he
was the editorial page editor, but he would editor, editor at
large. Is his title? Okay? So the editor at large is largely
a, mostly a ceremonial title. It's given to somebody who's
been around for a while and they don't want to make him this, or
they don't want to make him that. I had the title at info
world for a while, while I was a columnist because I like I
because I couldn't be a contributing editor anymore,
because I wasn't writing anything other than this column.
And I decide, and I said, here, I want to be the consulting
editor. But
Adam Curry: do you walk around and you wrap your pencil on
people's desk and go, Hey, you're not doing it right? Or,
John C Dvorak: I mean, what the editor at large? Yeah, would
Adam Curry: you just have phone calls or meetings or, no,
John C Dvorak: you don't do any of that. No, you just, it's just
a it's an honorary, it's basically, it's not, it's close
to something like that. It's a bull crap title. It's the same
as consulting editor, which I was, it's a it's it's great. It
sounds good. Yes. In other words, supposedly they call you
once in a while, say, Hey, you're the consulting editor.
Can I consult with you? They never do that. I've never been
consulted to this day. Do you get paid for this? You, you're
like a consulting podcaster. Nobody's ever called you. They
you'd like, they invented it. Nobody ever says it. There's a
Adam. Can you help us for doing a podcast? Can give us a tip?
No, they don't even bother. Lots of people ask you. So the editor
at large is just a guy that's supposedly you. He can. No, it
doesn't mean anything,
Adam Curry: but it sounds cool at cocktail parties in DC at
large or Washington Post, whatever large.
John C Dvorak: I like the idea of being a fat guy, though, that
would make it better. Well, he
Adam Curry: is a fat guy, isn't he? Yeah, he's
John C Dvorak: a fat guy.
Adam Curry: So okay, so now let's just take this into the
overall perspective that so even though he's an I mean, are they?
They're kicking out all the old Neo cons Newland, no, we're
moving to China. You don't know anything about China. You're
out. And by the way, that editor at large, husband of yours, he's
no good either, but he wants to endorse Kamala. We can't have
that. It's Trump for China. Now I wonder if he's
John C Dvorak: this is fitting into the pieces of the puzzle
that may all be fitting together. Part Two may explain a
little more
Unknown: every Robert Kagan is no liberal, either he
is absolutely not, not a liberal, by any stretch, or
means, 10 opinion writers at the post denounced the post decision
in a posting they did on its own website. You saw Woodward and
Bernstein come out. You saw Marty Baron, the lionized former
executive editor of the post, call it cowardice and spineless.
And you saw over 1600 cancelations of digital
subscriptions there three hours after the story broke. And
that's happening against a backdrop in which Trump has been
attempting to directly and expressly intimidate the press,
saying that if he wins office once more, that he will wreak
vengeance against it. And if you think about Jeff Bezos, yes,
hold
Adam Curry: on a second, this is now they just went to nonsense.
Well,
John C Dvorak: this is the irony of the whole thing to me, which
is that it's the left and these, you know, the msnbcs and all the
rest that make all this stuff up about Trump because he says
something casually or just jokingly, or he doesn't say it
at all, and they make it up, and they've literally scared their
own pants off, expressly
Unknown: intimidate the press, saying that if he wins office
once more, that he will wreak vengeance against it. And you
think about you. Bezos, yes, he's the owner of the post, but
of course, the founder of Amazon, he has a ton of business
interests worth billions involving the federal
government. Amazon shipping its cloud and China computing
contracts, and his space company, Blue Origin, has a
multi billion dollar deal with federal government to take
people into the heavens.
This follows a similar decision by the publisher of the Los
Angeles Times. Is it a similar story and reasoning by the owner
there?
Yeah. And interestingly, there is no formal publisher there.
It's all being decided by owner Patrick soon showing there had
also been an editorial in support of Kamala Harris being
drafted, and he decided to kill it. That led to the resignation
of the editorial center and two other editorial writers there.
Patrick soon song again, a civic leader stepped forward to buy
the times to try to sustain it in the same time. He's a
billionaire physician, inventor with major interest before
federal regulators should Trump wins again. He is threatening
this vengeance that I mentioned. And so here's the question, Are
these figures trying to, at a time of low trust in the media,
redefine their papers as more independent and away from
partisan interests just days before an election that their
own editorial pages say may define the future of the
American democratic experiment for decades to come. Or is this
a moment where paper are buckling in the face of
potential pressure, because of course, this race is so close
they don't know who's going to
Adam Curry: win soon, Xing of LA Times, also Chinese, American,
John C Dvorak: I may be, yeah, but when I see what, I get a
kick out of this guy, 10 guy, oh, we're right. We quit. And
they're quitting to
Unknown: do what? Rage quitting?
John C Dvorak: They're rage quitting. And there's no
business. It's the dying industry. The newspaper industry
is Get down, going down the tubes, and they're gonna quit to
go do what, just make themselves homeless. This is beyond me.
Adam Curry: It's a very interesting twist. It's clear
that they can't go against Trump. It's not that they don't
want people to go for commas that can't go against Trump.
Whether it's for Okay, Bezos, is the business interest sketchy?
Maybe, I don't know, but it's all part of the he has to win,
particularly when the race is this close. Race is so close,
you can almost
John C Dvorak: get that voice, that guy's voice, that'd be
good. You add that to your arsenal. With the Dutch guy, my
Adam Curry: arsenal of almost. I'm almost there. You
John C Dvorak: have an arsenal of almost.
Adam Curry: I want to wrap up the Russia thing. Then I want to
come back to the media. Who are you know, along well,
John C Dvorak: before you do that, we're still in the
campaign. I wanted to finish get I
Adam Curry: was doing Russia. I wanted to finish up Russia.
Yeah, you moved off the camera. No, no, no. You stole me. You
stole my vibe going from Russia into WaPo. It's okay. I just
have one clip. Oh, well,
John C Dvorak: once you play your clip. I just wanted to get
these two campaign wraps you because I wanted to play him is
because they're from the nation's treasure. Yes,
Adam Curry: no, you're going to have to, I insist you play them.
I just want to play because this is something that was flying
under the radar. And this is, uh, Grandma Yellen, who I think
is younger than I am. Yellen who, uh, did the keynote for the
IMF, World Bank, Jamboree, did you see any of this? No, I
John C Dvorak: have no idea what you're talking about.
Adam Curry: So the IMF and the World Bank have a big meeting a
couple days back. It's a whole week of meetings. I just call it
the jamboree. And she opened it up and she talked about Ukraine,
Ukraine. Sorry, Ukraine. And there was something very
interesting, some stuff we knew about the the loan to Ukraine,
where that's coming from, the stolen Russian money. But wait
until you hear how she wraps this up. You
Unknown: You mentioned the $50 billion loan that the g7 leaders
agreed to provide to Ukraine, and asked me about the status of
it. We're very close to finalizing Americans, America's
portion of this $50 billion loan package. And what I want to
emphasize is that the source of financing for these loans, this
is not the American taxpayer. What's happening here is that
Russia is paying for this support, the 50 billion of
support that we intend to go to Ukraine by the end of this year,
it is the income on the assets that have been mobilized,
Russian sovereign assets that have been mobilized in Euroclear
that are the source of repayment and with a. Agreed with Ukraine
that even if there is a final settlement and truces reached,
that it will be Russian funds that will go to repay these
loans.
Adam Curry: I'm sure Russia is gonna love that. So it's
Russia's money, and they're gonna repay it with Russia's
money.
John C Dvorak: You know? The funny thing is, the isn't that a
tranche of 300 billion? Yes, yes, and somehow the interest is
50 billion. You know, I
Adam Curry: thought this exact same thing, like, you're not
investing this in money markets. What did you do with that? Did
John C Dvorak: you Yeah, this is, this is a return that's way
over 10%
Adam Curry: did you buy Nvidia stocks? Or what is the 20%
return? What? Yes, exactly.
John C Dvorak: They put the Russian money in. It's
Adam Curry: not the S P. I mean, is S, P up 20% No, no, not.
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, maybe over a period
Adam Curry: in years. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: this is not right. No, these numbers don't
make sense, but we're
Adam Curry: the ones cutting the check. That's the big joke of it
all. It's secure. Don't worry. It's this extra money that's
floating around that. Or maybe that's just how banking actually
works behind the scenes. You, you stupid people, you can get
your money market, and somehow we've, we've, we get 20% return.
Who knows? All right, let's go to your rap. Hold on a second.
Oh, wait, at least of America.
Unknown: This is NPR,
John C Dvorak: or I wanted to do before it says you talked about
Ukraine. I wanted to do the Ukraine update before we do
that.
Adam Curry: Okay, Ukraine? What's PBS so it fits with the
jingle.
John C Dvorak: Then Ukraine is the other nations national
treasure, treasure
Unknown: in Ukraine. Russian drones struck Kyiv in an hours
long nighttime barrage. Ukraine and Ukrainian officials said one
went into an apartment building, killing a 15 year old girl and
injuring five others. And in central Ukraine, a missile
struck a residential area in Dnipro, regional officials said
a 14 year old and four others were killed and at least 21
others injured. We
Adam Curry: should have never, ever let that happen.
John C Dvorak: We should know that's for sure. No, no,
Adam Curry: but, but, let me tell you what I mean. We should
have never let them force people to change from Kyiv to Kyiv. Oh,
Kyiv. That's, that's horse crap. I'm just going to go back to
saying Kyiv. That is so remember if you said Kyiv, if you said
Kyiv, then you were a Russian agent. That was pretty much what
they say, Oh no, it's Kyiv. If you say Kyiv, you're, you're,
you're carrying water for Putin.
John C Dvorak: That was the Russians that pronounce it Kyiv.
No,
Adam Curry: no. The Ukrainians do Kyiv. Kyiv. Kyiv. In Russian,
Kyiv. And we say Kyiv, or at least we used to, until the
whole media change. Oh
John C Dvorak: yeah. This is like, yeah, Freedom price.
Adam Curry: Can't say that. Oh
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah. We're getting pushed around too much
now. We're I'm
Adam Curry: putting my foot down. Kyiv, put my foot down on
that. I want chicken, but his foot stomping. My foot down. All
right. Campaign, right?
John C Dvorak: I want to get this to be the end of the
election coverage for today's show.
Adam Curry: Okay, I have, I have two more within
John C Dvorak: the in follow it up with, with what I'm gonna
follow it up I'm gonna, no, this is from the National Treasure
NPR campaign.
Adam Curry: Wrap one on
John C Dvorak: the campaign trail. Both presidential
Unknown: candidates are stumping for undecided. Voters in swing
states today. Vice President Harris rallied in Michigan with
former First Lady Michelle Obama. Harris touched on
familiar themes, including the rising cost of health care.
I believe health care should be a right and not just a privilege
of those who have the money to afford it.
On the other hand, we've got Donald Trump who intends to end
the Affordable Care Act. Oh,
Adam Curry: please. They're so wildly exaggerating everything,
particularly Roe v Wade, which was not a law. It was a Supreme
Court decision. And this, it's gone back to the States, but
somehow Trump is going to make it law that, you know, you know,
it's
John C Dvorak: funny is that these the states, like states
like California, where it's, you know, abortion is legal, and
they can do it, you know, under normal circumstance, but
everyone's voting for comedy here.
Adam Curry: Why would you do that?
John C Dvorak: It's already this. It's a done deal. What are
you bitching about? Why are you complaining about it? About any
of it in California or Colorado, for that matter, where you can
go nine months and have an abortion as the baby's head is
popping out. I mean. Why?
Adam Curry: Why is KTLA running? Reports that it's a close
election. What do they care? They're not getting any extra ad
money. This is just claiming. They're just
John C Dvorak: following the leader. That's what you do.
Okay, they said radio guys. They don't know
Adam Curry: what the hell's going on. Come on radio guys.
KTLA is a television station.
John C Dvorak: Oh, okay, well, they say radio guys that moved
to TV. So the the, the thing about this last clip was that
they're talking about, it's a raise, rising cost and health
care. I'm sorry, everything's getting bad and and then
Adam Curry: the I just want to I'm still stuck. It just kind of
hit me where you the baby's head pops out, kill it. Man, that was
a gruesome, gruesome thing you just said, yeah. Well, happens,
okay, I'm sorry. Back to Colorado, back to you, bro,
John C Dvorak: the rising cost of health care and then and
Trump wants to kill their wait. The Affordable Care Act is
supposed to make it affordable. Why is it rising? Yeah, it's in
play right now. It's not gone. It's in play. We are under its
influence. But how come things are rising? Did you answer that
question came up Trump
Unknown: campaigned in two states today, starting in a
Detroit suburb, where he slammed early voting, even though it was
a rally to mark the start of statewide early voting in
Michigan tonight, Trump campaigned on the Penn State
campus in State College Pennsylvania. Kamala will
destroy your inheritance, but much more importantly, she's
going to destroy your country. If you vote for me, I will
ensure that you begin your careers young people in a
roaring economy in a time of unprecedented peace and
prosperity,
Trump's using the college setting to make a direct appeal
to first time voters and early in person voting did kick off
across Michigan today as NPRs, Hansi, la Wong reports, more
than 40 million voters around the country have cast their
ballots so far.
Eligible Michiganders throughout the swing state can now catch up
with early voters in the Detroit area and East Lansing, where in
person voting at the polls started days ago, ahead of the
rest of the state. If you're eligible to cast a ballot in
Michigan but haven't registered yet, you still have time to sign
up at your local clerk's office through Election Day, the last
day of voting outside of the swing state though, voter
registration for this fall's election is closing today in
Massachusetts and New York, eligible voters there have hours
left to register in person or online. Around the country,
election officials have raised concerns about potential mail
delays if you plan to vote by mail, the Postal Service is
urging you to check your state's deadline and return your ballot
at least one week before that date
Adam Curry: mail in ballots.
Unknown: Yeah, it's a plague.
Adam Curry: Well, because you brought up affordable, the
Affordable Care Act, formerly known as Obamacare, President
Trump said something about making America healthy again
that. I mean, I think it was reading off the prompter. So I'm
not quite sure if, if this was a mistake. Or listen to this, tell
me if you hear the same thing I hear.
Unknown: As we secure our borders and rebuild our economy,
we are also going to make America healthy again. Now,
Adam Curry: you think this is teleprompter, seems like it's
teleprompter, right? This is a teleprompter bit, yeah. All
right,
Unknown: the Kamala health care plan will make our kids sicker
and their diets more toxic. Under the Trump administration,
we will get the toxic chemicals out of our food supply, and we
will make our children healthier. We will spend more
money on health care than any other nation. But
Adam Curry: think of that, what
John C Dvorak: we will already spending more money on health
care than any other nation?
Adam Curry: Is he going to spend more on health care than any
other nation? This is what I don't understand. Spend
Unknown: more money on health care than any other nation. But
think of that. You know we do. I don't know if you know we spend.
Adam Curry: Oh, I think, I think he realizes that he's screwed up
here. Yeah, I think you're right, because you'll think of
that now we've
John C Dvorak: spent more money on healthcare. He left out
weave, and he we, he's he weaved.
Adam Curry: He weaved in the wrong direction. Weaved himself.
Yes. He didn't let the loom come back on the
John C Dvorak: weave. So he said we, instead of saying we've
spent more money, he said we're going going to spend more.
Adam Curry: When I heard that doesn't sound right, that's a
total screw up. You're right. Good catch now, tonight is the
big Madison Square Garden. See Kyle. Hang up the swastikas. I
didn't clip, but I heard Governor hokel this morning on
MSNBC. She's saying, Oh no, I think I think Trump is coming to
New York to wave the white flag of surrender. Okay. What? Yeah,
yeah, it would have been a good clip. Anyway, Mayor Adams was
questioned about a. About Trump being a fascist and Hitler and a
horrible person. I recall that Trump kind of, kind of, was nice
to Adams is very
John C Dvorak: nice to him at the L Smith dinner house. He
complimented him. He told he told him that he'll get over it.
This will be fine. He'll get out of this quagmire he's stuck in.
Adam Curry: I think that Adams has chosen his camp. Hi, Mr.
Mayor. I
Unknown: wondered if I could ask you about any communications
you've been having with the Trump campaign about this rally
or otherwise, and if you believe, as others have said,
that the former president is fascist,
Adam Curry: fascist as a journalist, can you believe that
you're sent down to the press conference for the mayor? Now
ask him, do you think Trump is a fascist? Here's the question.
It's like stuttering John level questions.
John C Dvorak: That's a good, good analogy, stuttering John.
That's
Adam Curry: what that's what stern used to back when Stern
was stern, he would give stuttering John crazy questions
like that. Hey, do you think Trump's a fascist? And everyone
would be laughing about it. And now it's just a serious
question. Ask you
Unknown: about any communications you've been
having with the Trump campaign about this rally or otherwise,
and if you believe, as others have said, that the former
president is fascist, you
know, I have been had those terms hurled at me by some
political leaders in the city using terms like Hitler and
fascis, my answer is, No, I know what Hitler has done, and I know
what a fascis regime looks like. I think, as I've called over and
over again, that the level of conversation, I think we could
all dial down the temperature. And I've heard people say that
the former president should not be able to have a rally in
Madison Square Garden. I strongly disagree. This is
America. This is New York, and I think it's important that we
allow individuals to exercise their right to get their message
clear to New Yorkers, and our job as a city and as a police
department is to make sure they can do that in a peaceful in a
peaceful way. I think that we must be extremely cautious. The
heat we turn up today, pre election, is going to have to be
the heat we're going to have to govern it. And I think we need
to show a level of respectable communication.
Adam Curry: Uncle Tom is what he is there they said, with Trump,
uncle,
John C Dvorak: I can see him being called out. Oh
Adam Curry: yeah, oh yeah. So I'm pretty convinced, just based
upon my own theory. And for a while, we've been talking about
the they the system, how everybody benefits if Trump
wins, the real everybody, especially the media, everybody
benefits if he wins, and probably the country, which
would be nice. But if, if he does, now for if he doesn't,
it'll be an interesting four more years for us. If he does,
it'll be an interesting four more years for us. No, it's
going
John C Dvorak: to be interesting four years, whatever. But no
doubt about it. But for Joe
Adam Curry: Scarborough, who had to sit down with Jimmy Kimmel. I
would like,
John C Dvorak: Oh, that was a pathetic it was like two old
ladies. They should have both been knitting. I would like
Adam Curry: our no agenda producers to have compassion for
these men, because they they are very emotional about the even
the idea of Trump winning,
Unknown: I think that there are certain news networks, if you
want to call them, that who are lying to people. I think that
there's a certain generation of which we are a part who are used
to watching television and seeing the white man in a suit
telling us what's going on in the world and believing that
what he's saying is true. I think that is ingrained in us as
Americans. We grew up with Dan Rather and Tom Brokaw and Peter
Jennings, and we did not question that what they were
telling us was factual. And a lot of people now are looking at
Sean Hannity and whomever else, and they are not questioning
whether or not what they're saying is factual and what
they're hearing is untrue. This
Adam Curry: is so telling. First of all, when, when did Broca and
Jennings and rather go off the air 20 years ago?
John C Dvorak: It was a long time ago.
Adam Curry: So there, you know, I don't know who you're talking
to, but most people don't even know these names.
John C Dvorak: I'm surprised they didn't bring up Walter
Cronkite and and what's the two did to Huntley Brinkley, there's
my favorite dude, Huntley and Brinkley, okay, when Walter
Cronkite. Night and Huntley and Brinkley were on the air. This
is not the way it
Adam Curry: was going. R Murrow did things right, damn it. And I
can
John C Dvorak: come on, check the calendar,
Unknown: what they think, because they're being told
there's a caravan of migrants coming, and then nobody's
following up at the end and say, oh, there was no caravan of
migrants coming.
Adam Curry: There was a caravan of migrants. There's
Unknown: a million load of
John C Dvorak: caravans of migrants. There's video.
Adam Curry: There's millions and millions of them
Unknown: coming. And Aurora Colorado has not been taken over
by Venezuelan street gangs. And by the way, this story about
cats and dogs being devoured by Haitian immigrants in
Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in,
they're eating the cats. They're eating they're eating the pets,
is
preposterous. I will tell you, I've been dreaming the last
three nights. I've been just going, been going through all
this craziness over and over again. It's really starting to
take a toll, like, I just, I can't get it out of my head.
Okay,
Adam Curry: so this is where he gets emotional, because he's, I
think he sees the writing on the wall and and you can hear it in
his voice. He's very, very concerned about the possibility
of a Trump victory. I
John C Dvorak: want to mention something we have to remember,
that on his during one of his monologs During the Trump
presidency, he literally cried on stage. He cried, yeah, he
cried about something that he thinks Trump did or didn't do,
whatever it was. It was ludicrous. And he's, uh, hates
Trump, and it's just, and it shows up in his comedy, and it
shows, if you want to call it that. So
Adam Curry: here we go, here's here's the and again, have
compassion for this man. I ask you, just forgive him. I am
going to have compassion. I'm not spiking the ball. If Trump
wins, I'm just going to have compassion. Do
Unknown: you look forward to the day
when you don't have to? Because one of the things that is so
exhausting to me and why, there have been several times I don't
think I can do this anymore. Don't want to talk about I don't
care who it is, the same person every day. And yet,
Adam Curry: your whole career is based on talking about Trump
every single day. Scarborough. What are you talking about
Unknown: every day? And yet, every day, you're more
outrageous things said. So if you don't talk about it, it's
like you're given permission. Do you look forward to the day
when,
oh, boy, do
I not only do I look forward to the day, I have to, I was
telling my wife, I don't feel like I'm mentally prepared for
the possibility of a loss. I'm not ready for I like I have to,
Adam Curry: I think he needs another vacation. I have
Unknown: to get there where I'm ready for either scenario or for
no scenario, which is might be the case for several days. Oh,
yeah, the grids going down so and I have to also kind of think
through what I might say the next day, because, you know, I
mean, you're gonna have to be up the next morning talking about
what happened for
Adam Curry: all 300,000 people that listen to Morning Joe,
Unknown: what didn't happen? And what message do you want to send
to people who watch the show? It's, you know, most of my shows
aren't important. That one seems a little bit more important than
others, because I do have a lot of people kind of asking me what
I think and going along with what I think. And it's a big
responsibility, you know. So I don't even remember what I said
the last time he won. I just remember staying up almost all
night and trying to process it, my wife being very, very upset
and feeling very alone, like I got to figure out what I'm going
to say. Nobody can figure this out for me, none of my writers
can figure out my take on this. I have to tell them what it is.
Adam Curry: I mean, I feel his pain.
John C Dvorak: I'm like, Yeah, jerk.
Adam Curry: I feel his pain. I mean, what will we say the next
day? If Harris wins, we'll be like, All right, all right. The
what's going on now, we'll just keep on going. I don't think
that it was so so spun up over all this. It is just, goodness
gracious everybody. Chill out. It's, it's really interesting
how, how spun up everybody is over this. Well, not everybody.
Well, no, not everybody. There's a lot of no agenda. People are
totally not spun up over it. No, why should you be exactly, it's
not the end of this. And yeah, Trump will be great. It's not
you can't vote your way out of the problems we have.
John C Dvorak: We know state's not going to help much. No, it's
when Elon comes in. Oh,
Adam Curry: yeah. That's right, he'll fix it. That's right.
Elon, he'll fix it. Yeah, he's gonna fix it. Hey, with that, I
want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to
you, the man who put the C and counseling, editor of PC
Magazine,
John C Dvorak: consulting. What did I say? He said, counseling.
Counseling editor, hey, you guys, you guys. You guys. The
Adam Curry: consulting editor of PC magazines. Hello to my
friend. Let me go the end the one and only. Mr. John C D,
John C Dvorak: consulting editor of info world, by the way, not
the PC Magazine, but that's okay. In the morning to you, Mr.
Adam curry, also in the morning. He ships the seat boost to the
ground, feet in the air, subs in the water. Wow,
Adam Curry: all right, oh no, it's not Wow, or is it Wow?
What's it supposed to be on Sundays? 1800 brother, it's 2400
on on Sundays,
Unknown: yeah,
Adam Curry: we're 2321 so we're close,
John C Dvorak: we're low, and it's the 17th anniversary show,
Adam Curry: people are at church. Man, they got other
things to
John C Dvorak: do. They weren't at church when we hit 4000
Adam Curry: I don't remember when we hit 4000
John C Dvorak: that was a while ago. That was the height. Yeah,
that was that during COVID, probably during COVID. No, no.
That was the recent It was recently, during COVID, we hit
34 once, yeah, yeah, though they're raking it was a Sunday,
so they weren't at church. Then either, of course, during COVID,
you couldn't go to church. It was illegal.
Adam Curry: Is there a football game on by any chance there must
be football,
John C Dvorak: not a good football game. Hey,
Adam Curry: any football game other than listening to no
agenda? I'm all in on that, by the way, nice to see that pit
won. Remember it was,
John C Dvorak: oh, you know Cody, well, pit Dolly, one. They
literally embarrassed, embarrassed Syracuse. But I have
to, I just have to say, I don't know what we were thinking. We
had a policy, and I want to reiterate the policy, we do not
do karma for sports teams. That's right. And we do see the
reason why, and because
Adam Curry: we forget to bet on it, that's why.
John C Dvorak: Yes, no, the reason why, because it gives the
team an unfair advantage. We're not going to do
Adam Curry: it. Remember, it was, it was a Commodore. It was
a Dota who came in with a Commodore ship for his son. And
then we were we slipped. We did? We slip? We slipped. I'm sorry.
And you see what happens? Boom, they win. And not just by a
little bit. It was embarrassing. What happened?
John C Dvorak: It was an embarrassing, I think it was a
shutout or something. It was outrageous. Interception after
interception. Yeah, they set the record for three intercept. It
was not just interceptions. It was three pick sixes, which is
an intersection, an interception, where you run it
into the end zones, dude, I'm just explaining it to you and
everyone else.
Adam Curry: Thank you, because I forgot there
John C Dvorak: was three pick sixes in the first half. What
Adam Curry: does that even mean? Pick sixes?
John C Dvorak: I just explained it. No, you do make an
interception and score a touchdown with the interception.
Oh, that's
Adam Curry: called a pick six, yeah, because you picked it out
of the air and you made six points. Boom,
Unknown: hello.
That's with the conversion.
Adam Curry: Okay, all right, thanks. Now I can sound cool. I
can say, well, I was talking to the consulting editor, formerly
of info world, and he we're talking about the pick six is a
pit. It's amazing.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you're not going to make points with that,
by the way,
Adam Curry: I'll make points to low level. Believe me. Make
points with somebody. You
John C Dvorak: want to talk about something else, flooding
the zone is better. Okay. Anyway,
Adam Curry: yeah, 17 years we've been running this show. Not bad.
And by the way, just to thank the trolls for being in the
troll room, troll room.io, thank you also to Mr. Darren O'Neill,
who, for the past four or five years has been doing more longer
than that, imagine, longer than that, has been doing the wrong
decade. Almost. I don't know about that. I think so. No, I
John C Dvorak: don't think he's been doing the decade. You can
tell us, but it's a lot. Yeah, he's
Adam Curry: been doing, let me see, did he just post here? Let
me see if he told us what it is. No, he has been doing the Rock
and Roll pre show, which is two hours before the show on
Thursday and Sunday, and it's been a great help. And a lot of
people, I mean, it would take days to thank everybody who has
done something for no agenda. And I'll even add a lot of the
modern podcast app developers who have made it we've been
doing this show live like, oh, we can add this live stuff into
these podcast apps. And oh, well, make sure you get
notified, and we'll make sure that you know you can't get de
platformed, and even when you publish within 90 seconds. Oh,
the modern podcast app show you that the podcast is there. But
we have many websites, including our own no agenda show.net, the
No. Agenda meetups.com. The no agenda Art Generator we have so
like, no agenda fun, the tip of the day.net. I mean, could just
go on and on and on. And the boots on the ground and the
people who um supplies with end of show mixes. I had so many end
of show mixes, I had to make a choice. There's at least double
the amount. Everyone's always sending them in for today's
show, but we'll get to them, of course. And you know, even Chris
Wilson popped up and he said, he said, hi and congratulations.
It's just been, it's been so nice. It's really, really nice.
Appreciate it so much. And our artists have been along for the
ride for a long time, even though it was in the standard it
took apple up until, I think, two years ago, for them to
finally say, oh, you know, we can put episode art in and not
just be the same image over and over again while we've been
using fresh arts for what do you Say? 15 years? Yeah, at least
15, well, 15 years, probably. And
John C Dvorak: that three dates the Art Generator, there was a
previous Art Generator, yes.
Adam Curry: And then the Art Generator came around, came
along, and then it got switched to headless Drupal. And that was
tough. It was tough times. What headless Drupal? And I don't
know what it's on now, but we've gone through a couple of
upgrades, and it's there. Thank you, Sir Paul couture, and so
we, as part of our our model, which is the value for value
model, which is a roller coaster ride, it took us quite a while
to to stabilize, and it never really is. It's, you know, it's
up, it's down, it's up, it's down. And for those of you
playing along at home, if you want to do a value for value
podcast, emulate what we're doing, you know, and ask people
to support you and thank them when they support you. And send
a newsletter. I cannot stress how important that people don't
do that. They just don't do it. John and it is so important to
send a newsletter the day before people have busy lives. And
another thing, if you're doing a podcast, try to release it
around the same time on the same day consistently. People, if it
doesn't show up, people will find another podcast, and you
might lose them for good. It's these are simple tips
John C Dvorak: marketing. One
Adam Curry: marketing, oh, point nine. But people don't do it.
People like, oh, good writing newsletter, get chat GPT to do
it for you. What? Do something. So we want to thank Taunton
Neil, a true Dutch master who is not a an AI prompt jockey. She
is someone who really does the work, and she's been doing it
consistently for a long time. She brought us the artwork for
episode 1706 which we titled nerd and knucklehead. A lot of
people had nerd and knucklehead art that they submitted, but we
like the que Mala, which is, I like this, this cartoon type
format that she did with the what is it with the dots? What
is that called? It's got to be some there's got to be some
printing term for that cartoon dots. What? Well, you looking at
the art? Do you see it? It looks like a cartoon with dots.
John C Dvorak: I don't see the dots. Well, it's
Adam Curry: dots. It's like a cartoon that's made up of dots.
Unknown: Dots
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. It's like, this got a screen over it.
Yeah? It's like, it's like, screened,
Adam Curry: okay, isn't it? What's
John C Dvorak: the dots? By the way, I'll say this, yeah, those
dots appear more dot like to you than they do to anyone else.
Very, very sudden. Well,
Adam Curry: I have it in big end. I I'm looking at the five
512 by 512 image.
John C Dvorak: I'm looking at the 512 by 512 and the dots are
very hard to see because i
Adam Curry: What is that artist name? Who always who? Very
famous artist who does these.no not, no, I
John C Dvorak: know who it is. Not Leroy Ross. And, no, I'm
Adam Curry: not even close. It's, yeah, I'm
John C Dvorak: getting it Lichtenstein, LinkedIn,
Adam Curry: Stein There you go. Nailed it. Lichtenstein. They
John C Dvorak: get the other name, Roy. Roy. Lichtenstein,
Roy. Good old Roy. Thank
Adam Curry: you exactly. Yeah, it's newsprint, basically, and
we liked it. We liked it a lot, and we appreciate you. Tanta
Neal, who is up? Is she on the leaderboard? Let me see that the
leaderboard is let me see Nick the rat still number one of all
time. Darren was on
John C Dvorak: her because he just when he was doing them, he
was just doing them and doing them and doing me. Never stop.
She's number six on the leaderboard. She's actually
behind comic strip blogger, which is a shocker.
Adam Curry: It is 52 times her art has been chosen. Let's look
at the rolling six month average. Scaramanga is at the
top. Dame Kenny been another Dutch Master is second place.
Let's look at the rolling annual. Tanta Neal is in fourth
place. Yes, and rolling 90 days. Uh, boy, she drops off there.
She was gone for a bit, I guess. But she's
John C Dvorak: rolling six months. She's in third. Yeah,
yeah.
Adam Curry: It's two Dutch masters that we got. Dame Kenny
been and, uh, tanta Neal, it's so good. Well, thank you very
much, tanta Neal, but let's take a look at some of the other art
that was submitted.
John C Dvorak: She's actually tied for a second. Oh,
Adam Curry: there you go. Let's see 1706. We had, uh, nerds,
knuckleheads, which, by the way,
John C Dvorak: uh, well, first of all, let's just say this nest
works. Yes, this was not a great selection to choose from, and
nerds
Adam Curry: and knuckleheads networks. You misspelled
knuckleheads? Yes, so that was a problem. Yeah, that's
John C Dvorak: no good. That's no good.
Adam Curry: But now the lots of AI, of course, which is my eyes
just glaze over from this stuff. There's the kemala, there's a
donkey screwing or the elephant screwing a donkey. I mean, come
on, yeah, we're not doing those Trump with Hitler mustaches. I
John C Dvorak: mean, Harley creative,
Adam Curry: not very It's like in, you know, the AI stuff. I
don't even mind it, but it's the, where's the creativity you,
of course, immediately your eyes were drawn to sex event today.
Oh, Scara mango's got a sexy babe. You like that? I
John C Dvorak: wasn't promoting that one. I mean, I did like it,
but I didn't push it.
Adam Curry: And, well, that was it, wasn't it that you hate, you
John C Dvorak: hate the women. So I didn't want to overdo it.
Oh, okay,
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I forgot how much I hate women. Yeah, and
dogs, and, and, well, no, that's that's been proven to be fake
news. Yes,
John C Dvorak: you're right. The dog thing was a although I still
question whether you like dogs. Before you got this, this latest
dog of yours,
Adam Curry: I had dogs in the past, you remember I had dogs.
Had dogs cats, yes, three dogs, yeah, three dogs and three cats.
At one point, for a long time, too,
John C Dvorak: three dogs and three cats. Yes, yes, yes,
Adam Curry: all I had a kennel. Um, that's it. There wasn't.
There was a there was nothing else really worth mentioning.
But thank you very much. Tanta Neal comes through, saves the
day with their que Mala, which is great, and everybody loved
it. A lot of people sent me notes. Oh, best art ever. It's
always best art ever. The best ever. It was best ever. Thank
you so much, tanta Neal, we appreciate it. Now we move to
the treasure portion of the 3t of value for value, time, talent
and treasure, man was another conversation we have a like a
social network for the developers at podcast index dot
social. And it's always the same thing. There's always some guy
that says, well, value for value. I mean, that's like if I
go to a coffee shop and I ask for a coffee, get a coffee, and
they say five bucks. I got value for value? No, that's not how it
works. Oh, you're saying it's tips. No, no. Oh, it's busking.
That's always my favorite busky. We're we're busking. No, we
learned early on that we give you the show in all its glory,
full on, all premium content all the way, nothing else but the
good stuff, nothing hidden, nothing held back. And then you
just decide what it's worth to you. And from time to time, or
as often as you want, you send us something that represents
that is that another to Bucha,
John C Dvorak: and it only works for ethereal products. It
doesn't work for cups of coffee, ethereal products, like public
broadcasting, for example, they they relied on it. Church
sermonizing, churches, services. It's like some people, they pass
the thing around, and you've What is this worth to you? And
you put your money in an envelope, usually, so you don't
embarrass yourself, even though I think the you should make it
envelopes show the 100 bucks. I
Adam Curry: think these days they just pop a QR code, send us
a Venmo. No. So instead, we just ask you to send back whatever
value you get from the show and and this, of course, being a
celebratory episode, we also, as is the final, the final
opportunity for the Commodore promotion, which is just a
beautiful you will like this Commodore thing.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, anyone says, males in Ford. And we also
had a note today from an Australian saying, it turns out
that $333 is the Commodore donation in Australia. It turns
out to be 504 which I thought was cute. Somebody says, Where
can I get a Commodore ship? Yes, you could. And we're gonna get
we extend it a week for. The Australians who you know that,
or there's one person in particular,
Adam Curry: so the Australians can send 500 australian dollar
reduce,
John C Dvorak: no, three through 33 Australian No, you're going
the wrong. $500 reduce is $333 isn't that interesting.
Adam Curry: And because we appreciate them, because they
still use something called the dollar. We're honoring that
which is all with the Canadians, which you always do, yeah, with
the and then the New Zealand's have the dollar to or the we
don't hear from
John C Dvorak: the New Zealand's hate us.
Adam Curry: Just Cinder She's ruined it for us. No. So we like
to thank a number of people in a special segment, the ones who
really stepped up and came in, we call them our executive and
Associate Executive producers. Why? Because they're doing
exactly what executive and Associate Executive producers
do, which is they support the product. And so if you come in
$200 or above, you get an Associate Executive producer
credit. And that is a credit that is real. It is forever. It
is you can use it forever and ever and ever, and it will vouch
for you. As long as we're live, we'll vouch for you. And you can
put on your resume. You can put in your LinkedIn business cards,
business Yep, exactly. Or imdb.com, if anyone you know,
when you say, Oh, I'm a is it what? You're an executive
producer? Yeah, I'm on imdb.com, Oh, that'll shut someone up real
quick. It's a good one. And it's kind of like editor at large, in
a way, only it's the real deal. You
John C Dvorak: don't want to be fat. If you can be fat. It used
to be called editor is large. You
Adam Curry: can be changed it as fat or skinny as you want to
produce, to produce the no agenda show. So $300 above,
executive producer, and we read your note, and we're going to
kick it off again, celebratory episode for 17 years. And right
off the bat, here we go hang out. Mike standby, 33 333. 33
rubbilizer out that is David Rosa from Clarkson, Michigan,
comes in with the rubbleizer, donation, 333, 3.33. Thank you
so much. And he says, John and Adam, it's my anniversary. No
wait, it's your anniversary. No wait, it's both our
anniversaries. That's correct. You're a producer. I'm looking
forward to celebrating four more anniversaries with the best
podcast in the universe. Normally, I'd ask for no
jingles, no karma, but rubb lies, a jingle is obligatory,
and I just gave it to you. Thank you, David, that is fantastic.
Very generous. Thank you for blessing us with that
John C Dvorak: game, lady. But is this, get over get Logan. Get
over over it. Get over it. Hello, hello. I'm doing it now.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: you're not personal. No, I've contaminated you, and
I'm healed. I
John C Dvorak: will see, we'll see, because I keep saying it,
it's gonna come back. Monroe, Washington. I don't even know
where that is, but she came in with $1,500 and says, Dear pod
Father, please forgive me. It's been two years since my last
donation, where I thank you for the successful baby making
karma. Johnson was powerful
Adam Curry: stuff. You can win football games. You can make
babies. It's all there. Name
John C Dvorak: the baby? John C Adam, no, that's what she says.
Adam Curry: Show me a birth certificate. J, a, h, n, s, I,
E. John C Adam, you know what I'm gonna choose to believe it.
I believe there's a kid out there named John C Adam. I
believe
John C Dvorak: born July 2023, and we're now expecting our
second human resource. I would like to share this Commodore
ship with my husband. So there's two of them involved here. I
guess two Commodore ships. It helps
Adam Curry: when baby making process, and the
John C Dvorak: best and and best friend, sir hop Scott. So we
have three of the digital horde. Unfortunately, he is dead, a
deadbeat, mofax, mofax deadbeat, as a mofax deadbeat, and he is
an amazing father and husband. I would like, if I can make sense
of that what she just said, I would like the third portion to
go to sir. Billy Bones, oh. Billy Bones. Billy Bones, yeah.
Billy Bones, he cooks, he cleans. He's a minister of
fungi. He makes music. He's a podcast. He's a woodworker, and
he's single. Ladies, there we go. I'm saying he's good with
two hands, and now he's a Commodore. I would appreciate
jobs karma, because my employer sucks. Thank you for your
courage. Love is lit, Dame lady, get over it.
Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs karma.
Adam Curry: You. Yes, a regular polymath, sir. Billy Bones is
Jennifer Hughes comes in with $1,030.26 and says, Congrats on
17 years. I want to say thanks for your immediate
deconstruction. I'm a compounding pharmacist and a fan
of John's endorsement for the Clearly Filtered pitcher. All
right, and I'd like to be called Dame Jen, legal drug dealer of
the Cedar Valley. No jingles, no karma, no exit strategy. All
right, Dame Jen, you'll be up on the podium later. Huh? Uh,
John C Dvorak: Tyler systems LLC in uh, Alaska, Alaska, $1,030.26
thanks partly to the wisdom sheet he writes, thanks partly
to the wisdom and strength I have received from your show. I
can make a celebratory donation for my new company, Tyler
systems LLC of Alaska. I've worked on and off, first with
startups in the tech industry globally since I was 16. Wow.
I'm 32 now, twice as old, and I'm still working a full time
job. Well, my new business gets off the ground. I'm starting
with offering AI powered workflow, automation services
and consulting, but aspire to grow the company into a
regional, Arctic AI and IT leader. I'm hoping we can build
a business based on trust and treating people well, instead of
spying on our customers and ripping them off the tech
industry norm. He puts in parentheses there, I humbly
request to be named Sir Tyler in Alaska. I just need a name, as
there's plenty of land here in testing Dvorak's cold read
skills, I'm wondering if he'll read aloud. Tyler systems, they
do great work in real time. So I can quote a testimonial from the
famous podcaster and renowned tech journalist retired you'll
find that That quote on the new website coming soon. Meredith,
www, reach out to Tyler systems. Tyler Tyler systems.com in the
interim, with gratitude from one of your many motivated
millennials. Tyler and Alaska, all
Adam Curry: right, we love the motivated millennials. I guess
these are $1,000 PayPals with fees added,
John C Dvorak: I'm guessing, yet that would be righteous
appreciated.
Adam Curry: And Craig Allen did the same. 1030 and 26 Hello.
John Adam, this is a no brainer. For the past few weeks, I've
seen 33 everywhere. I knew I had to donate with this offering. I
wasn't going to hesitate. No jingles, just karma for the
knighthood. Knight me, sir, Craig Allen of Gila River. Thing
is Gila or Gila, let's say Gila Gila River. And that's,
John C Dvorak: I think it's Gila Gila, like Gila monster,
Adam Curry: Gila, sir, Craig Allen of Gila River, and he's in
sakaton, Arizona. You got it, brother,
Unknown: you've got karma. Ryan
John C Dvorak: Jones and cambie, Indiana, 560, oh 656065, small
sets of boobs. It's been a while since I last donated. I knew I
was time to give you back some value for the show. Several
signs in the several signs in the life lately, pointed me to
donate to no agenda, like the name of Vince McMahon giving
facial expressions, like the meme, the meme, I'm sorry, the
meme of Vince McMahon give. Okay, I don't know why that
would be associative, but okay. First, it was buying some
gigawatt coffee from Eli, the coffee guy, by the way, and then
including some nice handwritten notes sprinkled with our
favorite no agenda phrases, don't forget to use ITM 20 at
checkout, or code bung Geno the second time, the second time
life reminded me to donate was was sitting at a gate in an
airport a couple weeks ago watching a guy fist his bag of
nuts while he stood waiting for the boarding to begin. I know
John C doesn't like that jingle, so I won't request it, but if
it's played, always gets a laugh out of me. The third sign I knew
it was right time to donate was the Commodore donation. I'm
proud to accept the Commodore ranking and happy to help
executive produce this fine episode of the no agenda show. I
humbly request some you've got karma due to climate change to
assist me in life ahead, in the life ahead. Thank you for your
courage in four more years. Ryan Jones,
Unknown: okay, you've got karma.
Due to climate change.
Adam Curry: And Sir Tom is in St Paul Minneapolis, 555, dot 10,
555, dot 10. He says it's been longer than I care to admit,
since my last donation. So it's high time to make amends and up
the ante. See people do this, and that's appreciated. You
could that's a completely valid way of supporting the show as
the originator of the double nickels on the dime. Donation,
Way Back Episode 179 a hereby donate 5510 that's the double
nickels on the dime, and chip in an additional 500 for a
Commodore commission to be known as a triple nickels on the dime.
Donation. You've named it. You've claimed it good to go. I
would like to officially update my title to surveyor, Commodore
of the northern and northwestern lakes. A bit of trivia. This is
always good. The Great Lakes were generally referred to as
the northern and northwestern lakes on navigation charts up to
the early 1900s Well, this is something I did not know.
John C Dvorak: Wow, useless information for a jingle, please
Adam Curry: play trains, good planes, bad. Thanks all
Unknown: aboard trains, good
planes, bad. Thank you.
Adam Curry: Brother. Very nice. Greg
John C Dvorak: Clifton in Morgan field, Kentucky, uh, 55 3342,
and he did send in a note, which I was jump over to, which is a
handwritten note. I don't have it. I've been running into
Adam Curry: the show for almost four years, and I have never
missed an episode since spring of 2021 y'all are the best.
Congratulations on 17 years. I'm mailing this note and a paper
check to save those nasty fees. Like John, my father was a
Kentucky Colonel, so I could not pass up the opportunity to
become a commodore of the best podcast in the universe. This
donation also qualifies me for knighthood. Please Knight me,
Sir cliffy at the round table, a bottle of, what is this? Eagle
row bourbon. Eagle. Can you read, you know, you can't read
it.
John C Dvorak: No, I have it right here. Let's see, where
does he see the bourbon on here? You
Adam Curry: gotta tell me what it is, because I haven't put
that on the on the order list. That's
John C Dvorak: the round table. Like about Eagle rare.
Adam Curry: Oh Eagle, rare bourbon. Okay, yeah, and what
else did he have there?
John C Dvorak: And a 902 filet cooked. Medium rare would be
much appreciated. A 902
Adam Curry: medium filet. 902 medium, medium rare. Medium
filet cooks. Okay, I got to put this through the kitchen.
John C Dvorak: Well, they're not very good at hitting the number
on the on the cooking. They're very good at it. What
Adam Curry: are you talking about? No, they're
John C Dvorak: not good.
Adam Curry: Okay. You want to finish this note, yeah. Jingles,
John C Dvorak: please play mac and cheese and boogity. Thank
you both for your courage and especially to Adam when sharing
you your faith, oh, and faith in Jesus Christ, what a platform
you have to show the god the good news. Share the good news,
yes, yeah, good news, not only on your show, but also places
like Rogan Sure. Cheers to you both for four more years, and
may you never find an exit strategy. Yours truly, soon to
be sir cliffy,
Unknown: few slaves can get used to mac and cheese,
John C Dvorak: mac and cheese, mac and cheese, macaroni and
cheap chatter melted together,
Unknown: mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese.
Adam Curry: And we go to Sir Roger with 533 dot 33 and he
says, Sir Roger of the borough of hats here, congrats on 17
years for my Commodore ship will just go with Commodore Roger. I
could also use an F cancer for my niece. Thank you for your
courage. In four more years,
Unknown: you've got karma.
John C Dvorak: I should remind Roger and the others. Did you
have to go to go to no agenda rings.com, and fill out the form
for the Commodore certificate? So we sent it to the right place
with the right name on it, right on Dame lazardi in La La harp,
Kansas, 517, 33 and this is a Switcheroo. Happy 17th
anniversary. This Commodore ship is being given to Matt the metal
Bender upon from his beautiful, smoking hot wife, if I do say so
myself, says Dame lazardi, you go for help him get halfway to
his knighthood. He is a fitting i. It is a fitting title, as he
loved his home in the new US Navy years ago. Oh, it's time in
the US. I can't, sorry, blurry vision, Please play the full.
Reverend Al respect, a role a long, long version and jobs.
Goat, karma, thank you for your courage. Matt. Leroy, Dame
lazardi,
Unknown: he's getting lunch at triple A, the tortoise
Adam Curry: in the race. Kim Kardashian,
Unknown: sigonoy Weaver, E, s, p, i, C, T, they're all G, E, s,
p, i, c t, there's no real conflict. Resist. We must resist
just a little bit. We must, just a little bit. We must, and we
will much about it that just let that
be committed jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
Adam Curry: Carmen, that well worth it. I haven't played the
long version in a while, Robert,
John C Dvorak: we will much be committed.
Adam Curry: Robert kerback, kerbak kerback, essexville,
Michigan, $500 so we presume that's a Commodore ship. You'll
go to no agenda. Rings calm to enter all the information. No
notes. You get a double up karma. Karma. I'll grab the next
one to make it easy on my my partner here, Ray Harris in
Holt, Michigan. A lot of Michiganders, $500 ITM Adam and
John, longtime listener of many years here, after being
endlessly reminded of my douche bag status by my smoking hot
girlfriend, Lisa Dame Cicerone of cat land, it is time for me
to finally donate please. De douche
Unknown: you've been deduced I
Adam Curry: would like to be known as Commodore Harris.
Please play rubbish and chemtrails. Stand
Unknown: by 3333
33 rubbilizer out
John C Dvorak: by Anne Rand Dimitri, Hossein. Hossein
Hossein in Stahl, Hill style, hilly style. He Oh, it's some
Belgian is in Belgium stall,
Adam Curry: Hill style, Hill style.
John C Dvorak: 500 tired of being a douche bag. If you would
kindly deduce me, you've been deduced. We need more belgiums.
Listening to this show, no jingles, no karma. Love the show
for a Commodore ship title you can call me Commodores skeleton
skellen. Maybe Adam might get this. Get it, you get it? Adam,
kind regards to some sort of a pun or joke. Adam supposed to
get it.
Adam Curry: Scound getting it, I do not remember. No. Agenda
John C Dvorak: rings calm, yes, go there for sure to get your
give us the details. Anonymous
Adam Curry: comes in from Lakewood, Washington with 500
switcheroo. Please grant this commenter title to Sharky, the
guy who hit me in the mouth around three years ago. And I
thank God for that. Thank you. He says You're welcome,
John C Dvorak: sir EA of the tax domain in Clarkston, Michigan,
and that's another one. Michigander, interest 500
Commodore, EA, sir EA, of the text domain, Baron PhD, oh, he's
Adam Curry: got all the titles, very nice. Got
John C Dvorak: it made. Aubin
Adam Curry: Q. Aubin Q in Anchorage Alaska, the and the
Alaskan Ian's are into $500 Hey, gents. Aubin Q from Anchorage
Alaska. Semi douche bag here, $20.18 monthly subscription
Since 2018 but listeners Since 2014 could not say no to such a
title as Commodore. So amazing. I would like to be Commodore Q
of D, L, more. Can I get an IPA? Well, that's you don't really
get Ah, screw it. 70th anniversary, I'm gonna order an
IPA in a club Paris. Filet form, just a quick ants and some
relationship and job karma. If you could four more years? Well,
we'll give you a very quick answer. Then, in that case, it's
our favorite ant jingle. What do you got?
Unknown: I got ants. I
I got hands
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs, let's vote for jobs.
John C Dvorak: Zachary, stock still. All in Odessa, Texas, 500
Commodore Zachary stock still, aka Baron Grease Monkey, that's
all he says, perfect.
Adam Curry: We've got Oh, sir. Patrick cobal, Hey, good to hear
from you, Sir Patrick, 500 happy 17th anniversary. Now Duke of
the South becomes the commodore of the South. I could use some
Trump's jobs, business karma, if you have any. Thank you both for
all you do and the team. All right. Thank you to the team.
That's beautiful man. Thank you so much. Jobs, jobs,
Unknown: you've got a karma.
John C Dvorak: Jim Turner, Louisville, Kentucky, 500 Hi.
TM, gentlemen, happy 17th and the best podcast. Universe, I
could not, in good conscience, let this opportunity to become a
no agenda Commodore pass by. I was dubious. At first, as a born
and raised Kentuckian and a recently retired Army Colonel, I
was taken aback and disappointed to find that my state had
bestowed the honor of Kentucky Colonel on the mere transient
such as John, while I am left of flounder as a mere peasant.
Alas, I swallowed my pride and thought it appropriate to add
the title of Commodore and eventually hang the certificate
next time I know agenda PhD four more years. Do jingles, just
some jobs, karma. Jim Turner, Commodore, Sir James of the
Darby city. PhD, Louisville, Kentucky. PS, uh, oops, sorry,
Adam Curry: yes,
John C Dvorak: I was debunked when I was passed along John's
Tip of the Day. I was debunked when I passed on John's
typically regarding this gray goose at Costcos fancy vodka, I
was promptly provided with news article refuting John's
assertion, evidence to to rebuy. Okay, the thing is that gray
goose was produced in the that Costco vodkas is French, and
it's produced in the old gray goose factory using the gray
goose gear. And I think it was taken over by some other
company, but that's, it's gray goose. I mean, just have a
bottle of Italian. Smell good. Tell
Adam Curry: me that's not gray goose. Yes,
John C Dvorak: it's good stuff that. Okay, yeah, all right,
technically, maybe
Adam Curry: let's see we have anonymous Charlotte, North
Carolina, 500 please credit producership and Commodore ship
to George P Burdell. No agenda. Saves my sanity, no jingles,
just karma. Thanks.
Unknown: You've got karma and JJ,
John C Dvorak: K, Nathan, Nolan, Nederland, Texas, neither. 500
Adam Curry: Nederland,
John C Dvorak: is it Nederland? Nederland,
Adam Curry: yeah,
John C Dvorak: it you think it would have 2e then, don't
Adam Curry: you? No, I don't
John C Dvorak: we. Any normal person would think so we
Adam Curry: spell Bernie, B, O, E, R, N, E, I mean, come on.
We're crazy here. We're out of control.
John C Dvorak: We don't say Nederland, Texas at $500 all is
just simple. 70th anniversary commodore of Nederland, yes,
Adam Curry: Keaton stone, Indianapolis, Indiana, 500 in
the morning. I am Gen Z, second year apprentice plumber welder
in Indiana. Clap for you. Gen Z, you're gonna, you're gonna be
the richest one on the blog. Probably, you can't go wrong. I
couldn't resist getting my Commodore title. I would be
known as commodore of the Indiana stones, and he would
like climate change. Oh, due to climate change, and they're
eating the dogs. So I'll play them in opposite order for you.
Thank you for your courage. They're
Unknown: eating the dogs due
to climate change.
John C Dvorak: It just remains funny. Patrick Brown's Boris,
they would say in Texas. Patrick brownie, Fairfax, Virginia.
Thank you for your courage. ITM requesting dude named Ben, if
requests are even a thing for Commodore ships, thanks again.
Yes,
Adam Curry: you can be Commodore. Dude named Ben,
absolutely. Yeah, just
John C Dvorak: fill out the go to no agenda rings.com and, by
the way, people sending in donation notes. Make sure to put
donation in the subject line. Thank you. Andrew
Adam Curry: Perez, San Marcos, Texas, not far from here, 500
ITM gents, congrats on 17 years. I'll be a knight as well. Please
Knight me, sir. P rez, Commodore of FL 330 that's flight level
330 that's 33,000 feet as a retired Navy guy, this promotion
scratches me where I itch. JCD, he says, What is a shaggy dog
story?
John C Dvorak: The shaggy dog story, which was, if you ever
got to see the old PBS show that which is out of England.
Actually, it was called the tube. Ronnie's, one of the
Ronnies would do a shaggy dog story once during the show is
comedian. Shaggy dog story is and you and you always, there's
always some guy in the office. Get, get the can tell a shaggy
dog story. Shaggy dog story is a story that one is like, pretty
much the way Trump talks. We've it wanders off the topic and off
the topic and off the topic. And then it comes kind of back
around to what the point was. And then has a pun at the end,
like, hey, Roy, is that the cat that chewed your new shoes or
something like that, some really lame pun that's always a
groaner, and it takes about five to 10 minutes to tell. And a
good shaggy dog guy who can tell a good shaggy dog story kind of
keeps you it's funnier the telling of the joke is funnier
than than the punchline. That's the shaggy dog story. I had no
idea. You've heard them.
Adam Curry: I had no idea it originated with the Two Ronnies.
No,
John C Dvorak: it didn't originate. It's just that he was
one of the best at telling him, okay,
Adam Curry: no jingles, no karma. Four more years, he says,
John C Dvorak: four more years, sir. Cut board, that's funny
because it's spelled B, O, R, E, D, like sir. Cut board in
Terrence Park, Ohio, it's my birthday too. Love you guys,
sir. Cut board, $500 Jeremy
Adam Curry: fort in Jerome, Indiana, 500 podcast, startup
karma. Hey, hit me up. I'll give you some tips. I want to be
Commodore fort and the trio fleet. I have three daughters.
Blessings to you both. Jeremy fort, Jerome, Idaho, all right.
Podcast, startup karma for you. Here you go. You've got
podcasts, you've got karma,
John C Dvorak: uh, Dame me outison, oh
Adam Curry: yeah, Dame Yeah. She's a fan favorite,
John C Dvorak: a fan favorite. Now Elta Mont Springs, Florida.
She's a Floridian. And she says, Hello, boys. Uh, Dame me
outison, here asking for a Commodore tile. Yes, I will go
to no agenda rings.com, and Fauci instructions. Good for
Yeah, good. But I got a note from some one of our female
producers, yeah, women don't want these Commodore ships. It
was grouchy, really.
Adam Curry: And what did you say? Yes,
John C Dvorak: I didn't say anything. You
Adam Curry: didn't reply. Oh, you're not replied
John C Dvorak: about sons. It was a long note. I didn't reply
about that. I was getting very close to to Countess status. And
I would like to say thank you both for always being a source
of knowledge and smiles. I'm grateful for the show and the
community, the community. Hey, she writes, yes, connection
truly is protection. I shall meet some awesome people at the
Oka. Oka, ok show okie at the Yeah, you two have inspired me
to start a value for value YouTube channel to share my love
of yoga. Oh, I'll be sure to send an update when I'm ready to
drop the channel. However, smash that. Pick it up. I
Adam Curry: button. Everybody, smash
John C Dvorak: it. However, I must air a tiny grievance. Comes
that I was a bit let down in July when I sent in a
handwritten card and check with bagels on it. Beagles mentioned
it. Beagles
Adam Curry: not bagels. Oh,
John C Dvorak: they said bagels. Talk about a sad puppy. Oh, I
picked them out especially for you too. I will look past it,
though, because you guys are fantastic. I'm sorry, love you
mean it, uh, John, it's on my bucket list to meet you one day.
So if you plan on any big meetups, please let the people
know there's gonna be one in Emeryville next month. Uh, but
it's long, way too far to drive month. Uh, you've got fans,
jingles, climate gate and the multi language ITM please and
on. Thank you. Thank the Swifties for Trump. So she says,
Thank you. And then Swifties for Trump, she's
Adam Curry: a swift she's a Swifty
Unknown: to the gate, to the gate, to the gate. I'm
Adam Curry: then we move to Sir il pop di si crismo aviero,
Portugal, that's right, Portugal. I think we have a meet
up report from Portugal coming up later on. Dear John Adam,
last Friday, I along with my Oh yes, I, along with my wife,
attended the Porto portal meet up. Porto portal meet up, get
up, where I met Sir artless chance and his lovely wife.
Beers and sausages were consumed, and we exchanged
numbers for reconnecting when needed this. That's the
connection is protection. It was fun to meet open minded people.
It was a small meetup, but at most. This excellent meet up. It
was Thank you, sir artless chance. We are looking forward
to the next event here in the Portugal, Spain region. Please
for my Commodore name, I would like to become Commodore sir il
Pope di si crismo. And this donation brings me to Baronet
level. And I would like to be known as Baronet sir il Pope di
si crismo. A heartfelt thank to both of you and to 17 more
years, dream on Sir ill Pope declesmo, a proud, no agenda,
Black Knight and allegedly a criminal of sort, yeah, because
he lives in Portugal. Jingles. I felt something warm on my leg
due to climate change and some karma. I just felt something hot
on my legs due
Unknown: to climate change,
you've got karma.
John C Dvorak: David West is in Marysville, Washington, 500 to
John and Adam. I've been listening somewhere around
somewhere since show 700 with clock boy.
Adam Curry: Remember clock boy? Whatever happened to clock boy,
they moved
John C Dvorak: their whole family left and went to the
Middle East, where they belong. Remember
Adam Curry: Obama was it was all in on. Clock boy, just because
of the color of his skin, they called him a terrorist. The dude
was walking around with what looked like a bomb at school.
Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Clock Boy, that's what began the my being kicked
off the Twitch show.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's right, because you, Oh, that's right,
that was the the catalyst you, you were a catalyst because you
were racist,
John C Dvorak: because I said this clock boy thing was a scam.
I was in the mouth by my good friend George Lindholm, aka sir
art Vandelay. I had to get a Commodore tile before time ran
out. Also brings me the knighthood accounting below. I'd
like to be known as Sir Joe McGillicuddy. I Love Lucy fans.
I recognize this. I appreciate buddy, which is being replayed
on me TV endlessly. I appreciate your pursuit of truth and
analyzing the news and Adam, I'm so happy you found salvation.
Jesus Christ, the ultimate source of source of truth. Amen,
John, I appreciate your skepticism. People should be
more skeptical, especially of anything coming from the
government or the media. Here's a plug for at least four more
years and no exit strategy. God bless you both. A hope that
doesn't offend you. John David West in Marysville, Washington,
Adam Curry: so offended. Shannon vest is in Tacoma, Washington,
ah, we're out of the Commodore ships. We're now at 343, 75,
incredible. I am finally donating. The Universe keeps
tossing three, three, threes in my path. So I figured it was a
sign. Yes, it always is. House selling in health. Karma,
silver. Play happy. 17th from Tacoma, Washington. Please play
No no, no, no. Adams family and whoop him with the Constitution.
Thank you. Okay,
Unknown: you know what
Adam Curry: class forget about this one.
Unknown: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, what? Listen,
you're in my house
drinking
the booze. No, no, no, no, no, no,
no. Shame on you. Whipping.
Adam Curry: Another classic, yeah,
Unknown: yeah,
Adam Curry: Manning, forgot all
John C Dvorak: about him, Corona and Erica, Netherlands. Is it
pronounced Erica,
Adam Curry: Erica,
John C Dvorak: Erica, ITM gents, I'm quitting my commentary
because I'm done. I'm done, and I don't feel like it anymore.
After more than 20 years, time for something else. Negotiations
for the safe are on. For the sale are ongoing. I do not have
an exit strategy yet, so I have recently started working in a
factory as a process operator. The night shifts are the best
with no agenda, the universe in my earphones, but maybe the best
crypto in the universe is my exit strategy. Dome shot on the
go. Pulse chain launched on 911, 2024, unlock tokens by unlocking
minds on Dome shot I always.io is an introductory video by co
founder, Matt long the donation does not bring me to knighthood
yet, but it does bring me to new agenda, Commodore. Yeah, you
know, the Commodore ships a one shot donation. It's not a
cumulative one. So you may want to reconsider this. You. We
don't know those special things, like the PhDs and things aren't
something to me. You don't accumulate. You just buy
knighthoods. You can Yes, so you get a knighthood. I would like
to be appointed as the car camera the father lands. Keep
with the good work. I would like some karma for more years.
Greetings.
Adam Curry: Corona. Curana
John C Dvorak: Marte, Martin and Erica,
Adam Curry: Erica, Erica, and you're gonna share this from
Erica.
John C Dvorak: Shannon,
Adam Curry: Scott karma. I forgot to give Shannon the
karma. No oot Erica means from, not from. Sir hair, heel, White
Salmon, Washington 333, dot. 33 needs some jobs karma for my
interview this week. Last time I requested too late, but not
making the same mistake this time. Could also use some F
cancer karma from Sir hair, heels,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs, let's vote for
John C Dvorak: jobs, Brian gardie and grand berry Texas, or
could be pronounced Greenberry or Berry
Unknown: grambury.
John C Dvorak: Granberry Texas came in with three and $33.33
got no no notes, so he gets double up karma,
Unknown: you've got
Adam Curry: karma. And then coming in from bensonville,
Illinois, and I'm happy, because today I am, in fact, drinking
gigawatt Coffee Roasters,
John C Dvorak: coffee. Yeah. Which specific one? The
Adam Curry: black bag. That's the special, the specialty
coffee from the black bag. This is the Honduras Dark Roast
that's I've had. That's quite good, very good. And he comes in
with 210, 27 gentlemen, congrats on 17 years of high caliber
media deconstruction. Keep up the good work. Jingles. He would
like an orange. Oh, hold on a second. Where's orange? No, I'm
sorry I missed your missed your orange. And then four more
years. Okay, four more years. We'll do it on the fly for you
and for producers who want excellent roasted coffee shipped
to your doorstep, visit gigawatt Coffee roasters.com. Use code
ITM 20 for 20% off your order stay caffeinated. Eli the coffee
guy,
John C Dvorak: Fletcher, Chris Fisher, in a ton of one to one
New York, $203.33 as a long time listener, I want to commend you
both for helping me hone my skills in studying media
deconstruction. I do want to point out that this show has
started to get off centered, and starting to lean little to that
point, I'm a center focused Democrat and embrace all sides
of the debate. I am a US Army vet and law enforcement
professional, professional. I want you to know the that there
are still good Democrats out there in local governments, and
I'm one of them. I'll keep my notes short, which already too
long, just like you read the coffee guy and the image makers
person's notes. My website is www dot Chris fisher.org, and
people can see that there is still a Democrat out there
working for the people. I focus on fixing sidewalks, fixing
elections and oh and so that doesn't say that fixing
sidewalks, amending local ordinances and keeping property
tax increases from going through the roof. You know, it's not
like a Democrat at all. All I ask is that you and everyone
else check out the www.chrisfisher.org. Uh, to see
that there are still center Democrats working for the
people. No karma, no jingles. Just okay, you can overdo it.
That's two one too many. My donation, 233 203 33 was sent
through stripe because just like you don't like act blue that I
use. I do not support PayPal. I had to add 333, to my $200
donation so I could get some air time. If I
Adam Curry: can just say we have nothing against Democrats in
general. You sound more like an old school Democrat to me. We
both have Democrats in our families, in our immediate
family, Democrat most of my life. So we just don't like nut
job Democrats or nut job Republicans for that matter. And
I'm sorry, Kamala Harris fits in the nut job Democrats in this
case. So that's why you feel we're leaning a little bit.
We're just trying to keep people sane in the insanity. Thank you
for. Your promotion, Alex, in Ottawa, Ontario, $200.33 Hi,
John Adam, I just got back from the Ottawa meetup. It was great
to meet this many like minded people in the heart of Soviet
kakistan. Please deduce. You've been deduced. And he would also
like a respect to m for organizing. Hope to see everyone
at the next one. Alex from Ottawa,
Unknown: E, s, p, i, C, T,
John C Dvorak: yeah. Well, there she is. Linda lupekin, she's in
Lakewood, Colorado, and surprisingly enough, request
jobs. Carmen says, Happy anniversary to the best podcast
in the universe. Love you mean it. And for the best resume in
the universe, work with Linda Lou Duchess of jobs, and writer
of resumes, shortens, jobs,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
Adam Curry: Karma and I need to insert a Associate Executive
Producer donation here from Rob Carty, who took us out to
dinner. It was semi embarrassing, but we're there at
the table. You know, there's eight people. He's like, Oh,
here. Hands an envelope. Thanks. He donated $200.33 and he has a
note. ITM Adam and John, please accept this check for $200.33
and with this donation, hand delivered to Adam on the show's
17th anniversary. Told you we celebrated, I officially crossed
the threshold into knighthood accounting attached as Exhibit
one. He's a lawyer, so he did attach exhibit one. May it
please the parents committee. Codon, I humbly ask to be united
sir. Rob dot lawyer, constitutional lawyer, yes, Rob
dot lawyer is indeed a URL Texas and California producers should
bookmark it, because you just never know when you'll need to
summon a dude in a suit. Seriously, put them on speed
dial for the accolade feast. I respectfully request Texas
brisket and beans, along with some brown Schweiger from my
smoking hot German wife, Maggie z is so high soon Also heads up
to all producers attending Monday's Minneapolis Meet Up.
Please welcome my little sister Katie Tierney and her husband,
Tom, these great Americans will be in attendance, offering heaps
of cheer and effervescence. I respectfully request the usual,
open up Adam curry jingle. Oh, that's right, I didn't get that
one either. Open up Adam curry jingle, yes, we got that one.
And what else does he want? And karma so that we may all form an
impenetrable cone of justice over Gitmo nation. Sincerely.
Rob Carty, no agendas, constitutional lawyer, Mr. Adam
Unknown: curry, you've got karma. That's
Adam Curry: right. When I hear that sound, believe me, I will
be calling Rob.
John C Dvorak: Well now you can read the longest note of the
day.
Adam Curry: I just read a long note of the day. Do
John C Dvorak: you haven't read the long, long note?
Adam Curry: ANNIE breglia, Middleburg, New York, 200 I have
been listening and making sustaining donations when I
could Since 2017 I want to express my gratitude for the
work you do. There is nowhere else I can receive sustained and
balanced information regarding so much that I care deeply
about, most notably, trends that intentionally cause harm to
children, our health and the state of our nation. I learned a
great deal more in the bargain. Things about AI and helicopters
and I myself have changed. I've become patriotic. I have
overcome much of the programming of my youth. John, this is a
success note. I'm happy I get to read it and I get to laugh with
two allies through it all, assisting in the shrinkage of my
amygdala to celebrate all of this glory. Please play I got
ants. People love the ant song. I cannot imagine life without
you. I don't look forward to your exit strategy, but I know
that everything changes. You deserve the best version of
reality that you can create. To anyone who is listening and
benefiting, do the right thing. Donate gratitude and blessings
to you, both to your families and to all your listeners. From
Annie breglia In Middleburg, New York. Thank you very much.
Annie, $200 and Associate Executive producership for you
in the credits today, I got ants.
Unknown: I got ants.
You've got karma.
Adam Curry: There you go. That wraps up our executive and
Associate Executive producers for Episode 1707 of the best
podcasts in the universe on our 17th anniversary. Do people get
as a special 17th anniversary producership? Right? I presume
that's what
John C Dvorak: we usually do. It is special, 17th special. So
it's
Adam Curry: not just, oh, I'm a producer. No, I actually produce
the special, the 17th anniversary special. We
appreciate you all so much. We appreciate everybody who
supports the show in any manner, time, talent or treasure. In
particular. Thank you to people who take the time to go and set
up a sustaining donation, which is any amount, any frequency you
set up yourself, you maintain it, and we'll be thanking people
$50 and above in just a little bit. We do have more show to go.
And once again, thank you to our executive and Associate
Executive producers for episode 1707,
Unknown: our formula is this, we go out, We hit people in
Adam Curry: the mouth, yeah, oh, well, since, since we just had
that note from
Unknown: Annie Annie
Adam Curry: Megyn Kelly was on Bill Maher. I saw that, and I
John C Dvorak: pulled she took him to the cleaners.
Adam Curry: Wow, that you can say that, especially regarding
the trans Maoism, and I thought it was clip worthy, and would
like to share it with y'all. Almost equally
Unknown: important, maybe, maybe as important is the what we're
doing to our children with this trans insanity. And this is
almost my single issue. We are chopping off the healthy body
parts of young children without 100% we are doing that. We are
definitely
doing without any Inquisition. What it is I
don't either pay attention. I'm about to give you a truth bomb.
Kids who are suffering from bullying or who have been
sexually assaulted or who are going through normal puberty and
feel uncomfortable in their bodies will say to their
parents, I'm not sure maybe I'm gender confused, they will send
them into a psychiatrist or psychologist, who are told by
our organizations, the American psychiatry Association, all the
others that run their licensing, you must affirm. Affirm is the
only standard. And so the child gets told you're right, you are
secretly a boy or vice versa, and the child gets put on
puberty blockers, into cross sex hormones, which sterilize a
child and deprive the child of any chance of sexual pleasure
for the rest of his or her life. We're talking about 910, 11 year
olds who cannot give informed consent. Then they have body
parts chopped off by a medical establishment and by parents who
mean well, but believe in these doctors and they shouldn't, and
when they inevitably get past the awkwardness of puberty or
what have you, and they want to turn around and de transition.
Those who love bomb them on Reddit saying, Come on in. The
water is fine. Abandon them. They are depressed. They have
changed their bodies forever in a way that is irreversible, and
we are all sitting back saying it's a remote issue, as Kamala
Harris said, it's not remote, it's the issue of our time, both
with respect to children and women's rights. And
Adam Curry: with this comes a shocking, shocking story that
the New York Times published earlier this week, headline US
study on puberty blockers goes unpublished because of politics.
Doctor says, the leader of the long running study Since 2015
said that the drugs did not improve mental health in
children with gender distress, and that the finding might be
weaponized by opponents of the care so she held back the
results of this study for almost a decade because, because, you
know, we were in a charged American political environment.
Dr Olson, Kennedy,
John C Dvorak: I'm just waiting for it. I don't have a clip, but
a couple days ago, on KTVU channel two shameful 10 O'Clock
News. It was a lawsuit going on, uh, kind of almost class action.
Was about five people trying to de transition. They're suing the
doctors. They're suing everybody, but their parents
will get sued too. When the legal establishment stuff like
this get out, their lawsuits are going to be flying. And these
people that think they're guided, they're ahead of the
game on this, are fooling themselves. This is going to be
one of the greatest Bonanzas. Is going to make asbestos look
like, you know, a picnic. Ah, is. They're going to be suing
left and right. And I think the parents are going to get caught
up in this. A lot of them are going to get sued by older but
kids, once they mature, and get a clue, it's this is a disaster
waiting to happen
Adam Curry: almost as big as the disaster that's taking place in
your backyard.
Unknown: A federal jury in San Francisco has awarded six former
Bart workers more than a million dollars each over Bart's
handling of its employee, COVID 19 vaccine mandate. This. Six
who objected to the mandate on religious grounds and were fired
sued Bart in 2022 for employment discrimination. This week,
jurors agreed their religious objections were legit and Bart
had failed to prove that accommodating the workers
religious beliefs would cause them undue hardship. They can't
just flippantly disregard people of faith and treat them like
second class citizens. We hope that BART has received that
message loud and clear. Fred Dacus is with the Pacific
Justice Institute, which represented the six workers. He
says the verdict puts employers on notice there are heavy prices
they're going to have to pay for their intolerance, bigotry and
apparent lack of sensitivity for people of faith wanting to be
reasonably accommodated to BART lawsuit is one of 1000s related
to COVID vaccine mandates working their way through the
legal system. Legal experts say many never make it to a jury
trial because litigants either can't prove they have sincere
religious objections, or because the company has made
accommodations the
context of COVID 19 what a lot of employers have done is offer
testing and masking as an alternative to vaccination.
UC law, San Francisco Professor dorit Rice says the law allowing
religious objections to workplace rules has been on the
books since 1964
I think the take home for employers is take the law
seriously. Have a process in place to assess religious
exemption and make a good face efforts where, probably where
you can to accommodate all of which is what the law says.
Adam Curry: Wow, that
John C Dvorak: is, yeah, this tip of the iceberg for this. And
Adam Curry: I believe during COVID, we even had templates and
forms in the show notes for religious exemption. So if you
make a million bucks, remember your no agenda show. Oh,
John C Dvorak: yeah. Well, the lawyer, the lawyers will
probably take
Adam Curry: half of it. I'm sure they can only take a third. Oh,
that's it. Don't take a third. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: they take a third. The this case, which is
good, this, this is the, just the tip of the iceberg. I think
it. I think they got $7 million for about a million a person,
almost. I think a little less, but, but it was a lot, but more.
And it's, of course, comes out of the, you know, the BART
general fund. Mean you have to pay the guys who promoted the
policy should be all fired. This is the real issue with me. They
come up with these policies that cost the system huge amounts of
money, and nobody, oh, well, whatever. It's just not my
money. I think this is a kind of a drawback, but okay,
Adam Curry: in the season of reveal category, you know that
I'm still following the Diddy Steen stuff, because we now have
that
John C Dvorak: what, which is going nowhere, as far as I can
Adam Curry: well, yeah, it's going nowhere, because this is
the true evil in in the world. Is what these people are all
wrapped up in, including the Abercrombie and Fitch CEO. And
we have, we have boots on the ground. Sir Viper. Sir Viper,
515, a couple of friends of mine used to occasionally fly for
Mike Jeffries. This is the now fallen and shameful sex pervert
Mike Jeffries, so he used to fly the private jet, they would have
to spray a particular Cologne in the cabin, brush the carpet and
headliner in a certain way, the quote, flight attendants had to
wear skinny jeans and flip flops. One pilot had to meet him
at the bottom of the stairs and follow him up, while the other
had to be walking in the cabin and meet him at a specific
location and say hi to him. One of my friends, a six foot six
lanky former Marine in the 60s at the time, was requested by
name to fly with him. These people are sick. This reminds
and they're demonic.
John C Dvorak: This reminds me of this story we got in. This
was at least a decade ago on the show about how al sharpton's
producer had to produce. It was a cup of tea or something, and
put it on his desk at a certain specific spot, and turn it a
certain way before he started his show, when he was when he
had the desk that he used to sit behind, this kind of thing. And
this is the diva kind of things. You've heard this about a lot of
Hollywood people, when they go to a hotel, they, when they
check in, they have to have a certain kind of flower and a
certain kind of this. And the that this has to be over here,
and this has to be has to be over there. What is wrong with
these people?
Adam Curry: They're bored. They're bored by the amount of
money they have and success, and then they get, they get scooped
up by Satan and the word on the street. Now, yes,
John C Dvorak: you need a glass. Come on, a certain way. It's
Adam Curry: spiritual man. We're in spiritual problems here.
Jamie Foxx, the word on the street. Now, remember Jamie?
Jamie Foxx, just you know, he went into coma for
John C Dvorak: three weeks from the COVID shot.
Adam Curry: Well, the word on the street is that Diddy
poisoned him because he has video or pictures of some freak
offs, and did he tried to kill him, and then when he came out
of it, miraculously, he immediately called the FBI and
and that the FBI has the goods from Jamie Foxx. I'm just
telling you what's on the what's on the street, what's on the
street. So I don't know if that's true, but it's
interesting, because our constitutional lawyer, Rob he is
constantly sending me updates about this. It's fascinating the
way this, I mean, there's a lot of legal stuff going back and
forth. Did he's lawyers trying to get a gag order put on all
the media and everything now. I mean, it's, it's, it's not over.
It's not surprising that we don't hear much from the
mainstream media, from the M 5m about it, because you never know
who's wrapped up in it.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, when I believe it, when I see it,
Adam Curry: I have an update on McDonald's, which was kind of
cool. Well, it's not really cool, you know, the McDonald's
now it's, oh, now there's, you know, 13 more states, and
everybody's getting sick from the quarter pounder.
John C Dvorak: Literally, yeah, well,
Adam Curry: so our producer says the Quarter Pounder has been
singled out, he believes, because he says it's the only
burger that is cooked fresh and not frozen. But is it just Trump
that they're getting into trouble for? Turns out,
McDonald's has been suing Tyson and Cargill and others for
artificially raising the price of beef. And these, I mean,
there's only three companies that do this, Tyson Cargill, and
what's the other one? I can't remember, who are in charge of
beef in America. And if you're going to be suing them for price
fixing, I can see whether you might get in some kind of
problem about your product. What was that? What was that? Was it
a TV series where, I can't remember what it was now, where
a competing, a competing way it was, ah, was a house of cards,
where there was some milkshake shop that was opening up, and
they were going to short the stock, and so they had people go
in buy one of these milkshakes, and then they they put poison in
it themselves. So they were puking violently at the open on
the opening day of the milkshake shop. I
John C Dvorak: don't remember that being in house cars, but
Adam Curry: JBC is the other one. Thank you. JBC is the other
meat guy. So there's something going on there that is bigger
than than what we're being told, billions. Thank you. Was on
billions. That was it. Thank you, karma King. So the you know
you gotta, you gotta figure, you gotta wonder about these things.
How do they know it was the onions? There's no evidence the
onion. People like, Yeah, we did. He's not onions.
John C Dvorak: Are you clear? No, I was. I have a pair of
glasses, and I was and they closed the the ears, things
closed, and they made and I tried to open them, but I was
doing with the one hand. So they kept closing and making a noise.
I
Adam Curry: mean, there was a an episode on this very podcast
where you were clipping your nails on the show, I can
John C Dvorak: No, that's what that was, an accusation that I
denied to this day. I was clicking a pin.
Adam Curry: Okay, my memory, I'm sorry. I could be wrong.
John C Dvorak: Well, let's, let's at least get these out of
the way so we can, because it's the phony baloney event of the
decade, which is the Iran, Israel thing. By
Adam Curry: the way, I think we called it. We said fireworks is
going to be nice, show in the sky. Nothing much is going to
happen. Is that not exactly what we said?
John C Dvorak: This is not only exactly, but exactly, exactly,
exactly what we said. Yes. So here's PBS doing the rundown. Of
course, they don't see any of this and they but everything
leads to this conclusion. So as a got a five parter here, it's
kind of interesting. Is Ira Iran run down one tonight.
Unknown: Iran is saying that it might not respond in kind to
Israel's first ever open attack on its soil. If there's a cease
fire in Gaza and Lebanon, more than 100 Israeli fighter jets
and unmanned drones struck Iranian military targets. Iran
state run news agency said four members of its military were
killed. The long anticipated retaliatory attack came early
Saturday morning the Israeli Defense Force. Said it struck
targets where missiles are built and stored. Their answer to
Iran's missile barrage is on Israel in April and earlier this
month, those followed the killings of Iranian and
Hezbollah leaders, which Iran blamed on Israel on state TV,
Iran's ruling regime played down the damage, although
the
country's integrated air defense system successfully tracked and
confronted the act of aggression, limited damage has
been caused to some places. The scope of the attack is being
investigated.
IDF spokesman Daniel hagari indicated Israeli retaliation
was done for now,
we are focused on the targets of the war in Gaza and Lebanon.
Iran is the one that continues to push for a wider regional
escalation. We will know how to choose additional targets and
attack them if necessary.
Adam Curry: I love that. They're just like, you know, Hey, man,
if you guys back off of Gaza and Lebanon, we're not gonna shoot
anything back. You know, more stuff that doesn't land
anywhere. This is very interesting development.
John C Dvorak: This is so fake, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go to number
two. Pretty fake. Get close to the good stuff. International
Unknown: reaction was swift.
I wish a speedy recovery to our neighbor, Iran and the Iranian
government, which was the target of the Israeli aggression last
night, the Zionist Israeli government wants to light the
fuse on a regional conflict.
I am clear that Israel has the right to defend itself against
Iranian aggression, I am equally clear that we need to avoid
further regional escalation and urge all sides to show
restraint. Iran should not respond
this afternoon before flying to Pittsburgh for a campaign event.
President Biden echoed that call.
It looks like they didn't hit anything on the military
targets. My hope is this, in the end, a
senior administration official said efforts will soon resume to
end the fighting in Lebanon, secure a cease fire in Gaza, and
the return of Israeli hostages still held in Gaza.
Adam Curry: If I can just say something about Biden in that
clip, did you see Biden running towards the press corps? No,
daddy, long legs.
John C Dvorak: Oh, the other Biden, yes, and I didn't see it,
though.
Adam Curry: Okay, the tell is the fake not Joe Biden, whose
legs are at least five inches longer than the Joe Biden, who
we don't know where he is, always wears the Ray Bans he
had. There's something with the eyes that is too much of a
giveaway, and he's always wearing the Ray Ban,
John C Dvorak: probably different colored eyes,
Adam Curry: possibly.
John C Dvorak: So just because I have seen photos close up,
photos of the different Bidens in one of them was got brown,
Adam Curry: yeah? So, just so everybody's aware, keep, keep
and look out for Daddy Long Legs with the Ray Bans,
John C Dvorak: yeah, that makes sense. So here we have somebody.
They bring somebody in from the Brookings Institute to do an
analysis for us, because we're dumb. Oh, that'll help.
Unknown: Suzanne Maloney is director of the Foreign Policy
Program at the Brookings Institution Suzanne. What do you
make of this offer from or overture from Iran that they'll
they'll not retaliate if there's a cease fire in Lebanon and
Gaza?
I think this is consistent with the rhetoric that we've heard
from Iran for some time. They've tried to posture that they're
actually defending the people of Gaza and the people of Lebanon
and that their hostile activity toward Israel will, in fact,
stop if there is a cease fire. I think it's also a face saving
gesture, because they're unlikely to respond to what was
a fairly complex and sophisticated attack by the
Israelis yesterday against Iran. Talk
a little more about last night. The attack last night, was
Israel able to accomplish its goals while at the same time
heeding the international calls for restraint?
Well, I think it was a sort of Goldilocks approach on the part
of the Israelis. It was big enough to impose some costs, and
I think to have some deterrent impact on Iran's calculus, but
it was not so big as to create inevitable pressures for
escalation and Iranian retaliation, which would put the
region in a much wider and much more dangerous war. That
obviously was the goal of the United States that had been
speaking with the Israeli counterparts about the nature of
the attack. There was a lot of discussion about whether nuclear
sites would be targeted, whether Iran's oil and gas
infrastructure might be targeted, but instead, they
chose to target drone and missile production facilities as
well as air defense and radar, and I think that that was a very
wise and appropriate choice.
Adam Curry: So we're back to the calculus. Duh. And, and this
really solidifies the whole Trump's gonna come in make one
phone call Abraham accords to back to China. This is ending,
John C Dvorak: yeah, but won't end till after the election next
Adam Curry: week. No, no, no. Uh,
John C Dvorak: should we go to just a couple more? Just this,
not necessarily short, but is four.
Unknown: Israel appears to have used the airspace of Jordan and
Iraq to get to the targets in Iran. What does that tell us
about Iran's standing among its Arab neighbors? Well,
the region's reaction has been quite interesting. As you noted,
two of Iran's neighboring states use permitted the Israelis to
use their airspace to undertake these attacks. It demonstrates
how vulnerable Iran is because of the alignment of many of the
rest countries in the rest of the region with Israel. But of
course, there are condemnations for many, many regional states
as well, including Saudi Arabia, which I think speaks to the fact
that no country in the region really wants to see this
situation escalate further than it has.
There's
been so for many years, Israel and Iran, sort of fighting by
proxy, Iranian sponsored groups like Hamas Hezbollah and the
Houthis attacking Israel. Have we reached a new phase now where
these two countries, these two long time enemies are going to
be attacking each other directly?
Yes, I think that's exactly where we were. As you noted, for
about the past decade, there's been a gray zone war between
Iran and Israel, often involving proxies or war in third
countries such as Syria. What we've seen since April is a
willingness on the part of the Iranians to strike directly in
an attributable fashion, against Israel, and by Israel to respond
directly with attacks on Iran on the Iranian homeland. I think
this is in much more dangerous phase of the war, although the
actions of the past 24 hours may create some some pause on the
part of the Iranians to take the next step of escalation.
Adam Curry: How did you come up with that,
John C Dvorak: they say go along, to make it sound as
though it's actually something going on, besides a scam that
everybody sitting in a cafe in Turkey knows this is bull crap,
and so did half the good analysts out there. It was, this
is Theater.
Adam Curry: Where's our dude named Mohammed?
John C Dvorak: I would have expected he'll come. No, dude
are Do we have a lot of dudes name,
Adam Curry: but the dude, og Mohammed dude named,
John C Dvorak: he'll come in with some information. The guy's
good, yeah, he's very so this is the last one, but this is not
PBS. This is the same rundown, a short one from NPR. And there
may be a little discrepant information in here.
Unknown: I spoke about this with an official who is briefed on
the matter, an official who was not authorized to speak publicly
about this, but who told me that there were three waves of
Israeli strikes on Iran. The first wave of strikes was on
Iran's air defenses. The second and third waves were on storage
and production sites of ballistic missiles and drones.
This official said that Israel's response was designed as a kind
of a quid pro quo after Iran carried out its missile strikes
on Israel on october 1, and also designed in a way that Iran
would be able to contain any reaction. Israel says that its
retaliation against Iran is now over, and Iran indeed is
signaling that it's downplaying this. Iran state news agency
said Israeli airstrikes caused limited damage. It says civilian
flights are up and running again in the country. It also said two
of its soldiers were killed.
John C Dvorak: What all the reports from PBS said four
soldiers were killed, yeah, now this report says too, this is
bull crap.
Adam Curry: I you know, going back to the initial prediction
that we said this was theater and it would be fireworks in the
sky. And Calm down, everybody. We're not in world war three, I
would like to show you the difference between your no
agenda show and the culture war economy. And I hate to say it,
but Scott Ritter is the one who said this. The entire
Unknown: Israeli package was based upon the Iranian defenses
defined by s3 100 type capabilities. S3 100 is a
Russian service to air missile. The Russians just provided the
Iranians with a significant number of s4 100, together with
sophisticated electronic warfare package, is going to jam the
Israelis as they come in, backed up by su 35 fighters. Now,
here's the thing, how many Iranians been trained on the
operation of the s4 100? I'll give you a quick hit. None.
Who's operating the Yes, 400 on Iranian soil. I'll give you
another hint. The Russians, who's flying the s 35 not
Iranian pilots. Russians about Israel to attack Iran is gonna
have to go ahead with Russia. You think Israel wants to do
that? You think Israel is ready to do that? Do you think the
United States is willing to let them do that? Now, what is
Israel going to bomb? Are they going to bomb the nuclear site?
That's the end of Israel. Israel disappears that quick. You
understand the first Israeli bomb that drops on Iran. Over
500 missiles will immediately be fired. These are solid rocket
fuel missiles. You can immediately reload fire 500 more
within 15 minutes. That's 1000 Missiles impacting every
strategic site in Israel within 30 minutes of the first Israeli
bomb dropping, the Israeli airplane won't even be halfway
home before his entire country is destroyed. That's going
through the mind of Benjamin Netanyahu. You wonder why he
didn't order the attack. Because he can't order the attack. He's
got nothing to attack with. Iran holds all the cards. Okay. Wow.
John C Dvorak: Wow. Okay, Clip of the Day. Oh,
Unknown: even Wow.
Adam Curry: Despite the crappy audio, thank you. I appreciate
Unknown: that Clip of the Day.
John C Dvorak: This is classic. This. This Scott Ritter is one
of those guys. He's a plant. I mean, He's entertaining to
listen to, and he does make some interesting points on certain
specific shows he keeps showing up on. But that's the example
right there of the what we think is going on, which is backed up
by what's going on and what other people think what's going
on, which is some sort of, some sort of up there. This is psyop
to what he just said, yep,
Adam Curry: yep. And now you even have to question, is the
FBI showing up at his house? Is that part of the Psy op to make
him more legit? Yeah, you know.
John C Dvorak: But we always, we always believe in this, this
meta version of everything, where this, what you what looks
like, is happening, is really done for the purposes of drawing
attention and not really doing anything. Yeah, that has to be,
it's part of the whole thing. He made such a fuss about, how come
we
Adam Curry: never get any of these deals?
John C Dvorak: We don't know that we're not getting these
deals when people do a rubbish or donation, but
Adam Curry: they're not giving me any info for the for the deal
that just say, here's a rubbish they want our
John C Dvorak: info. No, they want the weird analysts,
Adam Curry: consultationists,
John C Dvorak: we're doing, our analysts, our analysis, and
they're listening today. Who are they? They're listening in the
they are listening in. And they're going, Oh, we got to do
a better job. But we haven't fooled him on this one. We get
fooled.
Adam Curry: Oh, let me play. I have 18 seconds. So Daddy Long
Legs, sees the press, runs up to the press. When's the last time
he
John C Dvorak: was, by the way, by the real bite never does.
Adam Curry: He shuffles. He can't. He'll fall over then,
then he hops up the big stairs on Air Force One, not the little
cargo bay pops up there, flies over. Oh,
John C Dvorak: that's the giveaway, right there. He hasn't
gone up those big stairs for a year or two,
Adam Curry: and this is to apologize for the Native
American boarding school. Fracas. Oh, please. What do you
know? What this is about?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was the for the early years of our
country. From it, from the 1800s mostly took place when we were
moving the Indians all over the place. We insisted that they go
to American boarding schools for to be raised as Americans, and
so we basically kidnapped most of the Navajos and all these
various children of Indians. And instead of put letting them be
homeschooled in in in a teepee,
Adam Curry: they were casino
John C Dvorak: they they were pulled out. They're the guys, by
the way, these are the kids that are running the casinos now,
yeah, and there were trained. They were raised as white
people, and we have to apologize, because this was
unfair to these kids who should have been raised as Indians
mirror as Native Americans. So
Adam Curry: Daddy Long Legs shows up at wherever he was
after this little jaunt. And this running up to the press. It
was, it was unbelievable. Like, no, that's not you see, first of
all, you see his legs are visibly longer, and then he's
standing up there, and he's got the Ray Bans on. 150
Unknown: years, United States government eventually stopped
the program, but the federal government has never, never
formally apologized for what happened. Until today, I
formally apologized,
Adam Curry: not Joe Biden, not Joe Biden. Listen to that at the
end again.
Unknown: Until today, I formally apologize. Apologize and
Adam Curry: whoa, whoa. What are you easy there, daddy, long
legs.
John C Dvorak: What kind of an apologies? Yelling?
Adam Curry: Yeah.
John C Dvorak: How do you yell at an apology? Well, I'm gonna,
I'm gonna, I'm
Adam Curry: sorry, John, I'm sorry. I told you. It clipping
your nails.
John C Dvorak: It's see that would be that would sound like
you're just being sarcastic. Yeah. So this is this guy's no
good, no. Well, I have some Halloween clips if you want to
do those, or we can just skip what Halloween clips, the
disgusting body trade. You know,
Adam Curry: I have not listened to these clips. But I feel that
this is very out of character for you, because you will not
choose art because it's disgusting. Yet you feel it's
okay to show up with disgusting clips on the show.
John C Dvorak: I just use the word disgusting as a trigger.
Well, I'm
Adam Curry: triggered. What else? It's
John C Dvorak: not really disgusting in a true sense. It's
about collectors that, and I have to say this, as an
archivist, collectors who have gotten carried away and they've
and it's a couple, married couple that they found each
other. And this whole story, which is done, it was a, I
think, NPR, it's, it's one of those things that it's, you
know, the we ridicule NPR, but every once in a while, they do
something that is like spectacular.
Adam Curry: So you have 50 minutes of clips. Is that good?
John C Dvorak: I was 151, 5130 it's not that long. It
Adam Curry: is. I can count 456788, and a half minutes.
John C Dvorak: We run out of show.
Adam Curry: We can make as much show as you want. I can
John C Dvorak: also do these on the next show after Halloween is
over. It's a good story. This is a good series. It's maybe too
much do
Adam Curry: because, of course, I don't know what your clips
are, but what's the we've got new UK riots. We've got prison
John C Dvorak: films fest is a good story. Film Fest, the
prison Film Fest is an interesting story because,
again, it's California leading the way, even though you
wouldn't think so at the beginning of the story, but at
the end, they finally closed it out with, again, California
leads the way a
Unknown: maximum security prison north of New York City is
hosting a film festival this week as Samantha max of member
station WNYC reports all the movies are about the criminal
justice system. All the judges are incarcerated.
A group of men serving time at the Sing Sing Correctional
Facility evaluated five documentaries about policing,
prisons and the courts. A formerly incarcerated filmmaker
visited the man at Sing Sing and trained them on how to critique
movies. Dun works for the Marshall Project, which
organized the film festival. She says she hopes other prisons
will hold their own festivals in the
future, and we just pray that we can continue to do programs like
this to show that it can happen. To be honest,
the event is the first known film festival inside a prison in
New York, and just the second nationwide. The San Quentin
Rehabilitation Center in California held its own festival
earlier this month.
John C Dvorak: So we're training film critics in prison, which
makes sense to me. Well, they're
Adam Curry: voting they can do everything else they can get
they can transition. I mean, why not? I think it's perfect.
John C Dvorak: By the way, rotten tomatoes will never be
the same. Thursday
Adam Curry: is Halloween, so you can do your gruesome story
before the kids go trick or treating on Thursday. How does
that sound? That sounds that sounds fair to me.
John C Dvorak: That sounds fair to me too. So let's go with
disgusting.
Adam Curry: No, no, let's do we go V Oh, you
John C Dvorak: want to wow, yeah, that's a good, yeah, good.
You twisted beyond that one. Yeah, that was a good
switcheroo. I like it. I'm giving you. It was very,
Adam Curry: very slick switcheroo of the day, yeah,
okay, yes.
John C Dvorak: Well, this is a, I consider this to be a native
ad that was, again, PBS doing these, Yep, yeah, of course, PbS
is doing these native ads. And here we go with a big promotion
of like COVID physicians
Unknown: are increasingly using weight loss drugs to treat
obesity, diabetes and other chronic conditions in young
people, including children. In the last three years, the number
of people aged between 12 and 25 using drugs like we COVID And
ozempic has surged nearly 600% Ali Rogin looks at the high
demand for these drugs and the concerns surrounding them,
approximately one in five children and adolescents in the
US is obese, but experts say early intensive treatment can
prevent health issues down the line. Early last year, the
American Academy of Pediatrics recommended the use of
medication to treat obesity in children's ages 12 and up, we
spoke to two young women who have been using these
medications. I had been
struggling with my weight, and I had never gotten my period
before, and we weren't sure what was up with it, and I had taken
some labs, and we found out that I had PCOS. I think a lot of
people think, especially PCOS, that they're stuck and there
isn't options, and they're finding out that this is an
option, because it has helped me lose almost 90 pounds, and I got
my period, and it's helped with my confidence in so many other
things, and continuing it, I think, has just shown the
effectiveness of it as well.
Adam Curry: Okay. First observation. First PCOS is
polycystic ovary syndrome. I. Which is a hormonal during the
reproductive years, is when that takes place. But it's
interesting that they are only talking about these medicines as
we go v where there are many more, the most famous of which
would be ozempic.
John C Dvorak: So this is what I'm saying. This is an ad for
agovi. Yeah. Okay, and they get it good. This, by the way, this
three clips I have are, are part of about a 10 minute program of
these. How great it is,
Adam Curry: almost like I'm looking at PCOS, common
condition, common condition that affects your hormones. It causes
irregular menstrual periods, which is what she was
complaining of, excess hair growth, acne and infertility.
Treatment for PCOS depends on, if you wish to become pregnant,
people with PCOS may be at higher risk for certain health
conditions. So how do you get it? It actually, it actually
creates. How this is interesting, so just, I'm not a
doctor, of course, but it says that PCOS can actually make you
gain weight, so they're trying to treat a symptom here and not
the actual cause.
John C Dvorak: It matters, not because we go these fabulous
Unknown: despite the effectiveness of these drugs,
some doctors are concerned about the lack of data available for
children using them long term. Dr Melanie Cree is a pediatric
endocrinologist at Children's Hospital Colorado, and she
treated both Sophie and autumn. Dr Cree, thank you so much for
joining us. First of all, why are we seeing this increase of
children using these medications?
The reason we're seeing such an increase is that these
medications work and our children are really suffering
from outcomes from excess weight, ranging from mental
health and bullying to the development of serious metabolic
disease, such as type two diabetes.
When you are treating patients, what sort of options do you
consider before looking at medication?
Adam Curry: So this is a script. Listen how she reads that script
after she says, Oh, no, you gain weight because you're being
bullied. No, it's very possible that you're being bullied and
then you resort to eating. This is, this is poor information.
Even I can see this is not good,
Unknown: and our children are really suffering from outcomes
from excess weight, ranging from mental health and bullying to
the development of serious metabolic disease such as type
two diabetes.
When you are treating patients, what sort of options do you
consider before looking at medication?
So we always look at lifestyle in terms of trying to help a
child who is struggling with weight achieve better health,
and we can look at different aspects of food. Are they
getting enough fruits and vegetables, cutting down on
simple carbohydrates, really cutting liquid calories? What
can they do to increase their activity? Is their neighborhood
safe to exercise in? Do they have access to facilities or
sports? Sleep is very important. Do they have some more quiet to
sleep? Do they get enough sleep? And then, obviously, mental
health is very important. And are they stressed, or are they
living in a difficult social environment, and helping align
all of these to optimize children's health is something
that we do prior to trying any medication.
Adam Curry: Give these kids some steak. Give them a rib eye.
John C Dvorak: No, you can't just though, you gotta poison
him with the food supply that we have. No
Adam Curry: please. RFK, Jr, come on in. I
John C Dvorak: think they should make him head of Health and
Human Services. That's where they should put him. Yes, he
would cause nothing but a headache for everybody, and it
would be about time. Yeah, here we go.
Unknown: What are some of the misconceptions that you've
encountered about prescribing these medications and the
children who are on them,
I think the number one misconception is that the
individual is failing somehow, that somebody has to do these
medications if they don't have a strong enough willpower, and
that they're weak and can't do this on their own. And that's
just absolutely not true. These are chemicals. And when you take
chemicals and they help you lose weight, that means that you've
got a problem with the chemicals in your brain that are helping
you to regulate how you sense appetite and how you sense
fullness. Yeah,
Adam Curry: chemicals,
John C Dvorak: the chemicals. Is counteracting the chemicals, the
poisons that you've been getting from the American food supply,
high fructose corn syrup being one of them, oh, man, which is a
chemical. It's produced at a refinery. It's not even
something that's natural or they
Adam Curry: make oil and lubricants. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: It's just unbelievable, and it's the way
they do it so cavalier. Well, you get these chemicals that'll
counteract the other chemicals, which are already counteracting
the natural chemicals that should have been counteracted by
the other chemicals. And what are you doing? Patrol
Adam Curry: room, correctly. Said, I was very, very bad to
say, give that kid a steak, because we all know that that
creates more climate change. And I will wrap it up with some
climate change.
John C Dvorak: Yes, you horrible person. Since
Adam Curry: cop 16 is underway in Colombia, United Nations
reports climate has become more difficult to save. Yes, we're
all gonna die. United Nations reports on climate goals, says
countries have made no progress. How about that? The German
farmers, however, will be closing the roads and bridges
this time for their strike coming up on November 23 amongst
the report from Oxfam, one of the largest non governmental
organizations that up to $41 billion in World Bank climate
finance is unaccounted for. And wouldn't it just be coincidental
that I have a clip from grandma Yellen, once again, Janet Yellen
at the IMF and World Bank, Jamboree, talking about climate
finance, confronting
Unknown: climate change, of course, also remains at the top
of our agenda. The MDBs committed.
Adam Curry: She's talking about MDBs here. That's multilateral
development banks. Those are basically the IMF and the World
Bank, which is your money and my money that they're spending and
clearly not keeping track of confronting
Unknown: climate change, of course, also remains at the top
of our agenda. The MDBs committed a record high of
nearly $75 billion in climate finance to low and middle income
countries in 2023 a 45% increase from 2021 and they're deploying
new tools to help countries respond to crises and increase
resilience. We will continue to work to make climate finance
easier to access and to support additional private capital
mobilization at the MDBs and through the Climate and
Environment trust funds. There, we should turn to implementing
the recommendations of the recently finalized review of the
climate finance architecture that we worked with g20 partners
to launch, and we've made significant cut progress putting
conflict and fragility, pandemics and climate change at
the core of the MDBs work through the evolution agenda.
The MDBs have responsibly stretch their balance sheets and
pursued innovative financial measures that will enable $200
billion in additional lending capacity over the next 10 years,
and as of July, the g20 estimates that measures that
have already been identified could enable an additional
almost 100 and $60 billion this nearly 360 billion in total
would be an annual increase of Over 20% compared to 2023
Adam Curry: they are ripping us off. No kidding. And listen to
the money, and it's, oh, it's available for climate finance
infrastructure. We are so in the wrong business. We should start
a climate finance you should
John C Dvorak: have been in a banking business from the get go
due
Unknown: to climate change, I'm
gonna show my support by donating to no agenda. Imagine
all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun.
Adam Curry: Lots more show to go. We do, of course, have John
sip of the day coming up, along with some very nice end of show
mixes. We've got Commodores to welcome. We have nights dames
title changes and some groovy meetup reports. But first we
would like to thank the supporters, the producers who
came in with the treasure for the show, $50 and above. It's
not a very long list. John, take it away.
John C Dvorak: Yes. We start with net Ned from Shelby
Township, Michigan. Another. Michigander, 177 77 Nate Thurman
in Longville, long view, Washington. 170 70 another. 17
more years. Guy, William Martin in Essex, Ontario, Canada. One
seven. And D parts unknown is unknown, anonymous. I don't know
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Bozeman, Montana. 121, 21 ah, there he is. Kevin McLaughlin,
right at the top of the list. 808. Is the Archduke of Luna,
lover of America and boobs. Another one is Eric Maki, M, a,
k, I, in Blairsville, Georgia, with 800, a David CACT,
Adam Curry: good old David and show mixer. God, no one could
Yes. He's
John C Dvorak: in Santa Valley in Arizona. 73 ham radio
donation. 7373 72 ham radio donation is an interesting idea.
Yes, I like it. Michael Elmore, Gastonia, North Carolina, 7215
John Hui boury,
Unknown: bore,
Adam Curry: hey. Farmer is what that's saying.
John C Dvorak: Hey. Farmer in Bristol, Tennessee, 7117 Kelly
Hubbard. Hubbard and her cupboard is Plymouth, Minnesota,
at 6009 uh, Daniel George in Danbury, Connecticut, 6006 small
boobs. Uh, Mark Hardwick in a Lido, Texas, 6006 David Weicker
or wicker,
Adam Curry: you have not done that right once. Weicker wicker,
he
John C Dvorak: is because there's a congressman. He is all
the same way. It
Adam Curry: was always pronounced. We serve by His
grace. David wicker, and
John C Dvorak: he is in Jacksonville, Florida with 5517
James Moore in San Pablo, California, has grabbed the
street, 5463 What is he saying? Here my last tip was about pens.
Now this pen, the pen I would plug glass, shows the one you
want. Surprise, surprise in Yukon, Oklahoma. 5444 Jonathan
Straub and Roswell, Georgia. 5270
Adam Curry: needs a deduction, and he wants to, he wants to
call up Mike Straub as a douche bag, and for himself,
Unknown: you've been deduced. Alexis
John C Dvorak: Robles in Chula Vista, California, 5272 and also
cost us in Aldergrove, BC, Canada. And he needs a deducing
at 5272
Unknown: you've been deduced.
John C Dvorak: Sir Mar santalla In Tucson, Arizona, 5150 listen
Adam Curry: to this. Thank you for all you do. Please. There's
my daughter, Cassandra mitzner, a happy birthday. Her birthday
is a Monday. The 28th will be 34 we call Kamala in our household,
Mama law, translation from Spanish, means suck me. You
think that's right?
John C Dvorak: I don't know. We should look it up, because
that's what Mama is, what? What's her name? The talk show
host of Barrymore girl Drew Barrymore Drew Barrymore calls
her mama, but I don't know that she knows it means suck me. We
should have some we should have Spanish speakers in the chat
room,
Unknown: trolls, and
John C Dvorak: then just finish it off with $50 donations while
you're waiting for the results of that query to the chat room.
Amy galinis and Buri in Washington. Brian M and Heiser
in Lancaster, California, Michael Elmore in Gastonia,
North Carolina. Aaron wise Gerber in Bend Oregon. John
Taylor in fluorescent Colorado, sir. Richard Gardner, New York
City, I believe Sarah, Sera,
Adam Curry: sir. Sarah, no, says, sounds like the fine wine.
Sera,
John C Dvorak: oh, okay, oh, I see that. Yes. Sera, okay. Sera,
spelled Sarah, but says Sera, 10 times. Teen Brentwood,
Tennessee, 10 line. Steinle.
Adam Curry: Stein steinline.
John C Dvorak: There it is, once you read these, and then last on
our list is worn out night in Calexico, California, 50 bucks,
and I'm the worn out night of San Felipe Baja, California,
been a few years, but I'm back. I believe my total donation to
date is $1,500.33 Okay, thank you very much. And
Adam Curry: sorry. I was just trying to help you out there.
You know, I'm sorry. Let me apologize properly. I'm sorry.
I'm
Unknown: sorry. Okay, I'm sorry.
John C Dvorak: Okay, Biden,
Adam Curry: thank you very much to these supporters of the show
producers. You are all producers, and thank you to
those who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity, or you're
on a sustaining donation, which works it gets you all the way to
knighthood and beyond. We appreciate it any amount, any
frequent. See you make it up and once again, thank you to our
Commodores who are about to bring up and have them arrive.
And our executive producers, Associate Executive producers,
Knights and Dames and everybody else. No agenda donations.com.
You've got karma. No agenda donations.com. Eight. There we
have Shira steinline celebrating today. Sir Marvin wishes his
daughter, Cassandra mitzner, happy birthday. Turns 38
tomorrow. Hey. Sir Felix in Australia, turns 15 on Tuesday,
the 29th of November. But because he lives in the future,
that will be Monday, the 28th for the no agenda fans, that, of
course, is from his from his dad, Sir Chris Wilson and Dame
Kiley. Nice to hear from them. Ed Lyon wishes his son, Nathan
Lyon, a happy 111, years old on October 30. And finally, on her
birthday list. Sir cut board, happy birthday from everybody.
Here's the best part of
Unknown: the universe.
Adam Curry: We welcome Sir Tom, who now becomes surveyor,
Commodore of the Northern Northwest lakes. I'm not quite
sure exactly. I think it became a Viscount and Sir il Pope D
cyclismo, now Baronet sir il Pope D siklismo. And
congratulations to both of you for supporting the no agenda
podcast in another $1,000 or more. It is highly appreciated.
Now it's time to bring in our most recent list of Commodores.
This is it, the final one. Quite a list we have.
We welcome Commodore David Rosa Commodores, or hopscotch
Commodores, Billy Bones. Billy Bones. Commodore, David, get
over it. Lady. Get over it. Commodore, Jennifer Hughes,
Commodore, Tyler, Commodore, Craig Allen, Commodore, Ryan
Jones, Commodore, surveyor. Commodore, Greg Clifton,
Commodore, Roger Commodore, Matt the metal bend. Commodore,
Robert corbeck, Commodore, Harris, Commodore, scalen
Commodore, Sharkey, Commodore, EA Commodore, Q of d l Moore,
Commodore, Zachary stocksville, Commodore of the South.
Commodore, Jim Turner, Commodore, George P perdell,
Commodore of Nederland Commodore, Keaton stone,
Commodore, dude named Ben Commodore, C sir, P res of FL
330 Commodore, circuit sir. Cut board, Commodore, Fort and the
trio fleet Commodore, me outison Damia, odessen, Commodore, sir
il Pope, dcismo and Commodore West
Unknown: arriving. Whoo, quite
Adam Curry: a list. There a beautiful list. And if that
wasn't enough, we've got Knights and Dames, and we have quite a
number of knights and a dame so bring out a sword I got
John C Dvorak: the big, quite a number sword.
Adam Curry: Jennifer Hughes Tyler, Craig Allen, Craig
Clifton, Aubin Q Andrew Perez and David West, step on up. All
of you have become knights and dame of the no agenda, round
table, I am proud to pronounce the KV is Dame Jen, legal drug
dealer of the Cedar Valley, sir Tyler in Alaska, sir Craig Allen
of Gila, Gila River, sir cliffy, sir Q of DL, more sir P, res,
Commodore, FFL 330 and Sir Joe McGillicuddy for you. We've got
hooker, some blow rent poison, Chardonnay, along with Eagle
rare bourbon and 902 filet cook medium rare IPA and a club
Ferris file set Texas brisket and beans and brown swagger for
smoking hot wife Maggie. And of course, we have the mutton and
Mead lined up for you here, just like the Commodores. And some of
you will be Commodores as well. Go to no agenda rings.com that
is where you can find pictures of these beautiful rings. And of
course, you can fill out your ring size. There's a handy ring
size guide there. Along with the ring, you will receive your
certificate of authenticity and wax because of the signet ring
to seal your important correspondence. Congratulations,
Dame and knights and Commodores and new title holders. Welcome
once again to the peerage ladder of the no agenda show.
We got a couple of meet up reports. The Ottawa Meetup is a
written report. This is from the meetup report themselves. Huge
success. We had 15 people show up. This was their first one,
this meant that there were so many of us that we didn't even
all get to talk. So we will definitely be holding another
one. I hope that this meetup helps the show in some smaller,
even bigger way. Well, connection is protection. It
helps everybody. A thank you to everyone who came, of course, a
thank you for giving us the means to meet up and for all
that you and John do sincerely. The. Ottawa meetup, and then, as
requested, and they deliver, here's a meetup report from the
Porto portal. Meet up in Portugal
Unknown: in the morning. Greetings from Portugal.
Greetings from the Porto. Porto. This is Sir Atlas chance and I
pass around the phone.
Hello, Adam and John. This is DECA Fletcher from Porto.
Cheers. We love you guys in
the morning from Sir il Pope de cilismo,
the only criminal in the meeting. No spokes here in
the morning Porto, Portugal from Hong Kong.
We love you.
Adam Curry: That sounds like a bunch of criminals, actually,
and it sounds a bit like a Eurovision voting thing. It was
interesting. I'm glad you guys did that. Thank you very much.
Now, there was a big one for our anniversary in London. This is
the London meetup report,
Unknown: g'day mateys.
It's Campbell from Kent.
I got nothing so happy birthday.
And John and Adam. Sarah here Brian, not Brian of London, and
not Brian with an eye thinks I look like Graham Hancock. That's
weird. Hello in the
morning, John and Adam and congratulations on 17 more years
from crime. The Black Knight from Royal wood ambassador, hi.
This is Emma, not raped, from London. Whoopsie.
Happy birthday. No agenda. Keep
on rocking here in London.
Hello, everybody. Luisa from Brazil, happy birthday.
Hi. I'm Gustav from Brazil.
Thanks for your curry in the morning. Adam and John, happy
17th. I haven't been with you the whole time. Just the last
four years I've been streaming you SATs. Where do they go? By
the way, I never hear mention of them. But here's the four more
years of streaming you those sweet Satoshis. It's Jack of the
Golden rumors in the
morning. Everyone. Happy birthday, John and Adam. Four
more years not here. Hello, John and Adam. This is Sir Arctic map
from the high peak, saying Happy 17th birthday to you guys. You
may remember me from jingles such as my Sharia law ISIS in
America, we take our guys and four more years.
Hello, we're malex from the big smoke and happy birthday. No
agenda.
Woof the cock here at the London longest standing member meet up
part three, and I'm wondering, where is our Viscount of the
South East and London? So, Luke, where are you? You?
Adam Curry: You know they say no agenda. Meetups changes your
life. I think that's proof, right there. That's a good bunch
of people. There's a meet up tomorrow the land of Walt's meet
up in Minneapolis, Minnesota, at punch bowl social. That'll kick
off at 530 and then, if you go to no agenda meetups.com you
will see there is a slew, just a slew of meetups all the way
through November, into December, into January. I suggest you go,
take a look, find a meetup. Go to this connection is
protection. You will meet children from other lands, and
you will make relationships that will last forever. Some people
even hook up. No agenda. Meetups, calm. If you can't find
one near you, start one yourself. Sometimes
Unknown: you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days.
Adam Curry: Everybody knows everybody knows, so everybody
feels the same and knows your name. Are you going to tell me
you don't have any ISOs?
John C Dvorak: I'm being magnanimous, and I'm letting,
allowing, because I've been dominating these things. I'm
giving it to you. I'm giving the floor. This is a very bowing and
giving you this is because this is bad.
Adam Curry: Why is it bad? You one crappy ISO one. No one. I
have one. I'm I was counting on you. Well, then this is the
winner. He's
Unknown: really, really bad, very, very bad.
That's not
Adam Curry: good. No, it's very bad. It's very, very bad. I
can't use that well
John C Dvorak: into the well and pick something out. Okay,
Adam Curry: I'll dip in the well. I'm gonna scroll all the
way down. I'm just gonna grab something. And I
Unknown: am triggered. I'm so triggered. How about that?
John C Dvorak: I love. That? Okay,
Adam Curry: wow. What is that? How did that happen? That was no
good. Oh, that was horrible. Wow. Man, that is not how I like
to do my transitions. I'm so sorry. And now everybody, it's
time for your favorite part of the show. What is John's Tip of
the Day?
Unknown: Just a tip with JC.
And sometimes I don't,
John C Dvorak: well, this is a screwy one, but I definitely
something I need to talk about. Okay, I'm recommending another
product. There's a bunch of people that make this product
surprise another this is a lid remover type can opener.
Adam Curry: Oh, these are actually quite handy to have
around the house. I've
John C Dvorak: discovered these things in France in the 70s.
When I was visiting, I went to France one of my trips, when I
was working for the government. I go to France all the time,
yes, and I bought one there, which I still have, and it still
works. And this is different than the can and by the way, and
I had to wait 20 years to see him in the United States because
I think there's a patent. There's something involved in
this. But what this thing does, and it's called a smooth edge,
it's called a lid remover. It's got different titles for what
they are. You have to be careful a normal can opener, cracks the
top of the can, and you grind around, and it rips open the can
and leaves. It gives you a sharp edge thing and cut yourself.
These lid removers take literally, reach under the lid
and pull the unlatch the lid, the entire lid from the can,
pull it off, and then you dump the product out, and then you
can wash the can and put the lid back on it. It's like of can.
This is amazing. These things are the absolute best. They're
actually it takes a little more work to get them once you get
the hang of them, because you have to put it at a certain
angle and to make it work. But you have one.
Adam Curry: I do not have one. I'm thinking, I need to get one.
Oh, I
John C Dvorak: thought you said they're great. Well, I've
Adam Curry: seen old ladies use them. Oops, sorry. Old
John C Dvorak: ladies don't even know what they are. I've seen
old ladies use can openers.
Adam Curry: This, this, yeah, yeah. It sounds like something I
might, I might want to pick up. You'd
John C Dvorak: love it these things. You should the can
opener, which just rips off the rips off the top, is not
anything like these lid removers. And what you want is
one of these things. They they're about to say, eight,
nine bucks. Maybe they're once you get to hang out how to use
them, because it does take a little skill more than a can
opener, and they're just dynamite. And once you start
using them, you go, wow, why? Where's this been all my life?
Adam Curry: So this is basically a better mouse trap. Yeah. And
do you have a brand in mind? No, there's
John C Dvorak: about 20 guys will make them, and they're all
They're pretty much all the same design, and they get underneath
the lid lip, and they under, hook the lid from the can, and
they pull the whole lid off, yeah, and they can be put back
on.
Adam Curry: This is an amazing Tip of the day, another winner
from John C Dvorak. It is the tip of the day. Everybody. You
can find the tip of the day.net. JCD,
Unknown: just a tip with JCD
and sometimes Adam.
Adam Curry: Well, there it is. We wind up episode number 17. I
mean, anniversary number 17. Episode 1707, on october 27 Does
it get any crazier than that? I don't think so. Thank you all
very much for being here trolls and oh, look at this. If you
just stay with us, like, don't leave your modern podcast app if
you're listening to the stream or the troll room coming up
next, we have DH unplug number 724, mega buyers. Revealed is
that the one from this past Tuesday.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, must be okay.
Adam Curry: I haven't heard it yet, so I think I'll stick
around and have a listen. And you should come back to see
what's going to happen, as we will have all kinds of
disgusting Halloween clips on Thursday, and we'll get you all
primed and ready for Election Day. Crazy coming to you from
the heart of the Texas Hill Country in the morning
everybody. I'm Adam curry, and from
John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm still
wondering about Snoop Dogg. I'm Jesse Dvorak.
Adam Curry: End of show, mixes from nukes 3k David kector and
Professor Jay Jones from China. Remember us at no agenda
donations.com We'll talk to you on Thursday. Until then, adios,
Mo foes, a hooey, hooey and such. Get my.
Unknown: Saturday night, no date to do the climate change, no
promotion at work
do the climate change, taxes and prices going up due to climate
change,
rental high insurance too, due to climate change, no promotion
at work
due to climate change, taxes and prices going up due to climate
change.
Jesus climate change,
they say it's happening. We're all getting hotter, but to me,
we looking like frogs in the boiler water. Saturday night got
no gas to do the climate change. Make the COVID sparse
due to climate change, taxes and prices going up due to climate
change. They
say it's all my fault, but I can't even change my car's oil
at all. They say it's happening. We're all getting hotter, but to
me, we looking like frost in the boiler water. Power outages at
home due to climate change after ACR, but I'm still in the zone.
Green Jobs promise, but still ain't shown. Meanwhile, my
friend just keeps getting blown they say it's happening, we're
all getting hotter, but to me, we looking like frost in the
boiler water. They talk about the cows and all the men came.
My ball is empty, and I'm feeling the pit world we save
it. Sure, that's true, but all this government ain't helping me
or you. They say it's happening. World getting hotter, but to me,
we look at like frogs in the boiling water Saturday night.
Yeah, still hot. To do the climate change working extra
shifts. But why? Due to climate change. Do you
think Donald Trump is a fascist? Yes, I do. Yes, I do.
As important as Trump's Fascism is, and is the lead story every
day, his Cozen up to dictators, his obsession with Hitler that
has now come out.
Either you have the choice of a Donald Trump will sit in the
Oval Office stewing, plotting revenge, retribution, writing
out his enemies list.
One other thing that you'll see next week Caitlin is Trump
actually reenacting the Madison Square Garden rally in 1939 he
is killing us. Women have died already. Very reporting, by the
way, that shouldn't be questioned by
idiots. Do
you think Donald Trump is a fascist? Yes, I do.
So I always got more publicity than other people, and I didn't.
It wasn't like I was crying. In fact, I don't know exactly why.
Maybe you can tell me, Oh, I can
definitely tell you, you said a lot of wild shit.
Adam Curry: Allow me to sum up this week's news. Hitler
Unknown: is back. Hitler.
Adam Curry: Hitler is back, everybody.
Unknown: Let me take you back to 1939,
do you think Donald Trump is a fascist? Hitler
John C Dvorak: is back.
Adam Curry: 21% of Gen Z Americans think Adolf Hitler had
some good ideas. Actual
Unknown: American Nazis.
It's a Nazi rally. How
dare you. Donald
Trump has said he'd terminate the Constitution United
States, praising Adolf Hitler, saying
Adolf Hitler did some good things. Certainly
falls into the general definition of fascists.
It's perfect to celebrate the rise of Nazis that
Donald Trump would invoke Adolf Hitler back
home to mommy. She goes back home to mom.
Adam Curry: How is that casting aspersions? This is next level Q
anon stuff.
Unknown: They'll say, you know, Trump
supporters have set off a dirty bomb in Philadelphia. They're
Adam Curry: counting on us to help him win. They're counting
on us to propagate their clips. Vowed
Unknown: to be a dictator on day one. Someone
needs to calm her down.
Did not do some
good things now, okay,
John C Dvorak: you stop it there.
Adam Curry: The best podcast.org/n,
Unknown: a I am triggered.
I'm so triggered. I.