John C Dvorak: It's just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Unknown: Adam curry.
John C Dvorak,
Adam Curry: 2024, this is your award winning gimbal nation
media assassination episode 1702.
Unknown: This is no agenda. We're unedited by CBS, and we're
Adam Curry: broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas new
country here in FEMA reach number six in the morning.
Everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley, where we advise
you to stop using the word triage. I'm Johnson Dvorak
Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: I think we should use that all the time during our
show. We're triaging all the clips we got, triaging all the
boots on the ground, so we can make sure we get all the right
stuff out there. Triaging. I kind of like it.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So I was watching one of the Fox shows,
the fox, fox morning chatterbox. They like to say triage for
Adam Curry: everything. The Fox chatterbox. There you go. That's
a good one. The Fox chatterbox, yeah, the triage. So it seems to
me like, okay, it sucks, but I think the weather people kind of
got it all wrong. Wasn't everyone supposed to be dead and
destroyed and everything swept away and the storm surge drowned
everybody. Yet they forgot to predict the tornadoes. 126 of
them, to be exact. Where was that prediction? I didn't hear
anyone Well, it
John C Dvorak: matters not they can predict the climate, but
they can't predict this. Yeah, happens the next day. Yeah, of
course. We're
Adam Curry: we are, of course, by
John C Dvorak: the way, I want to say that Santis, DeSantis,
DeSantis De Santis, I was watching his entire press
conference. This guy really is a good governor. Oh yeah. He just
seems to be on top of everything. He's got the facts
in front of him. He goes on and on and on. He's got all kinds of
details. He's smart enough to do stuff in advance. And the thing
that impressed me most, most was a couple of days ago, when he
says, you know, we're, we're closing all the toll booths on
all this expressway so people can get out of there time to
stop and pay five bucks to get through. Yeah, that makes sense.
He said, just one thing after another, if it wasn't for that
whiny voice of his
Adam Curry: when, and even though he's not wearing the
white boots, you still can't get that out of your head. You still
see him with the white boots. Hard to hard to visualize him
without those
John C Dvorak: competency and it's just there's a combination
of things. But he's definitely a governor you'd like to have as a
governor,
Adam Curry: yes, but every I mean, we have lots of friends
and lots of course, there's lots of producers in in Florida, and
the reporting was just freaking everybody out. It was, it was,
and of course, it's not great. There's no doubt, no doubt
there's a problem. But it's not at all the destruction that we
were sold. I feel gypped the tornadoes. That's the thing that
got me though. What? Not a single mention of that. And then
these were not like little tornadoes. These were big
twisters just appeared out of nowhere, blowing
John C Dvorak: up stuff left and right. Yeah, yeah, the funny.
And there was mentioned that, you know, in Florida, where they
do have tornadoes on occasion, especially with some
accompanying some hurricanes, you can't build tornado shelters
because the water table is so high. No, you can't. It's like,
you know, the water table is right under the house. So
Adam Curry: of course, we hope everyone's okay and that the
damage isn't too bad. We we won't know, really, for a little
bit, but the they had no good reports. They didn't have anyone
blowing over from the wind. The wind didn't even seem, I mean,
you know, I've been doing a little because, oh man,
John C Dvorak: by the way, uh, Cooper, uh, pooper got, yeah,
pooper, yeah. He was on CNN. He got hit by debris. It was, it's
a piece of styrofoam hit him, and it was like a roll of
disaster. Oh, so
Adam Curry: I don't want to make light of it, because, you know,
if you're, if your house is flooded,
John C Dvorak: it sucks, yeah, or even gone, if,
Adam Curry: if it's gone, that's what seemed the wind damage
seemed to be pretty minimal. I mean, just, I
John C Dvorak: don't think so. Oh, the wind damage was all the
damage, but
Adam Curry: it was, well, here's the one that made me kind of
smile and
Unknown: take a look at this video just into the newsroom
from Tropicana Field in St Petersburg, where the stadium's
rooftop has literally been torn apart by the winds from
Hurricane Milton. You may remember Tropicana Field was
transformed into a shelter for first responders ahead of the
big storm.
Adam Curry: So it's a stadium with a vinyl roof where a team
plays that no one cares about, but that was the news that was a
very flimsy roof looked just like vinyl you. It
Unknown: was, yeah. So, okay, just
John C Dvorak: a coded. It was just a it wasn't really, it was
more of a balloon roof,
Adam Curry: yeah. So, yeah, of course, the
John C Dvorak: I will say, by the I will say, the sound really
does stink.
Adam Curry: What do you mean what you're hearing?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's not like it's, I don't know what the
chat room thinks, but it's not like it I can't understand you.
It's just like a lousy phone connection.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's interesting. No, it sounds good
for everyone there. See, is there? Let me see, I want to
make sure, oh, speech optimized. We don't want that. We want
music optimized. Hold
Unknown: on a second. Let
Adam Curry: me see if that'll break
John C Dvorak: every musical tones,
Adam Curry: yes, for my musical stylings, John, for my musical
styling styling.
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry, yeah, maybe,
Adam Curry: maybe that's better. I don't know, but it's that's
what you're hearing is not what was what's recording. So, of
course, I can't get away from they modified the weather. They
seeded the clouds, they steered it that way.
John C Dvorak: Just had a good commentary on this, too. I wish
I had clipped it. It would came in late. It was this morning. He
said, he says this is he's basically said. He says both. He
did a good job of balancing it, because he condemned the idea
that they're changing the weather, because it's hurricane
season. So this happens all the time. The worst hurricane, he
points out, was in on late the famous Labor Day hurricane of
the 1930s which was worse than anything. And he says, this is
hurricane seasons, Hurricane weather. And you get these
hurricanes, as he says, and but it's not just the left, the
right, not mentioning Marjorie, Taylor Greene, he says it's also
the left who blames everything on fossil fuels. So he did a
really good balancing act. This guy is very talented governor.
Adam Curry: Well, there was a so I have a couple of clips because
it was worth playing. Since Biden, they rolled Biden out.
This may have been the real Biden. You can't tell when he's
if he's not standing up. It's hard to see if I can't see the
back of his head. I don't know if it's Biden or daddy long
legs, but he came out and slurs something out alive.
Unknown: There's simply no place for this to happen. Former
President Trump has led the onslaught of lies. Sessions have
been made that property is being confiscated. That's simply not
true. They're saying people impacted by these terms will
receive $750 in cash and no more. That's simply not true.
The money is needed for this crisis is being diverted to
migrants. What a ridiculous thing to say. Now the claims are
getting even more bizarre. Congressman Marjorie, Taylor
Greene, Congresswoman Georgia, federal government is literally
controlling the weather, controlling the weather. It's
beyond ridiculous. It's got to stop moments like this. There
are no red or blue states. There's one United States of
America where neighbors are helping neighbors, volunteers
and first responders are risking everything, including their own
lives, to help their fellow Americans.
Adam Curry: Jeff, so that was a very that was real stately
there. Joe and MSNBC really ran with this ball. And thank
goodness we're connecting this to climate change. I mean, it
took they didn't do, I've got clips. They didn't do it during
John C Dvorak: Helene, but oh no, they did it big time on this
one. Yeah. So I was just start
Adam Curry: with a few, and then I'll do a few Chris Hayes clips,
because, man, he was hot over there on MSNBC. Hurricane
Helene,
John C Dvorak: I thought you were going to say, thank God for
MSNBC, because nobody listens to it. Well,
Adam Curry: no. I mean, they need us. They need us to get to
any listenership. And here you go
Unknown: now. Hurricane Helene just showed us how this
phenomenon is wreaking havoc, even in areas previously thought
to be safe from these kinds of storms, tucked away deep in the
Blue Ridge Mountains, Asheville, North Carolina, was considered a
little slice of paradise. Some called it a climate Haven,
suggesting it was immune to extreme weather.
Adam Curry: Now, I don't know where MSNBC got this idea from,
what? Because there was a huge there was a equally large storm
in 1916 there was one as as recent as 2014 what so. But then
they have this like this. This footage of birds chirping and
oh, it's a haven. We're safe here, huh?
Unknown: But last week that paradise turned out to be an
illusion. Oh, my God, battering the area for days. Stop
John C Dvorak: a second. Stop. Stop the I, you know, this is an
interesting form of reporting, where you create a false
scenario, yeah, and then you report. On it, free, creative,
classic, this is what these guys do. They should be ashamed of
themselves at NBC News, no,
Adam Curry: I think they're doing a great job. This is
they're doing exactly what they're paid to do, to promote
climate change and at the same time discredit Trump and anyone
else who's in his camp, ripping apart
Unknown: homes, washing out roads, toppling trees and
cutting off entire towns. New research out this week says
there is strong evidence human driven climate change
strengthened Helene's destructive power. It made the
storms
Adam Curry: strong evidence Helene strengthened,
strengthened by human made climate change, so just
strengthened it it's a multiplier, a force multiplier.
Force multiplier term is rapid intensification. We'll get to
that human
Unknown: driven climate change strength into Lean's destructive
power. One study saying it made the storms, rainfall up to 20%
heavier, 28 winds 7% stronger. Seeing
these events that are boosted by climate change, stronger,
wetter, lasting longer. Another report
found that a warmer climate led to 50% more rain over parts of
the Carolinas and Georgia than would have been expected. You
know,
Adam Curry: is just as a little entremond clip here. So it's
stronger, it's wetter. PBS had this to say about last year and
2023
Unknown: was the driest year for the world's rivers in more than
three decades.
Adam Curry: I mean, make up your mind. Is it going to be wetter
or is it going to be drier? I mean, they can't seem to figure
out what it's
John C Dvorak: going to be. Unfortunately, there's no
coordinated yeah, there's no
Adam Curry: messaging, no central command,
John C Dvorak: there's no exactly they set that up. Yeah,
we wouldn't have these issues. Curry
Adam Curry: Dvorak Consulting Group. We're available. Do it.
We're available. We're available. All right, so let's
just face the fact climate to climate change is it's, it's
responsible for everything. Storms
Unknown: like Killeen and what we expect to come from Milton
are exactly, precisely what experts have been screaming
about for decades now, as John Morales, Nicole Wallace, it is
why he got so emotional over last night's forecast. When I
saw 50 millibars in 10 hours, I just broke down with a mixture
of empathy, angst over these increasing extreme weather
events, and also frustration, because for over 20 years, I've
been trying to communicate on on what would be coming if we did
not check the injection of greenhouse gasses into the
atmosphere. And well, here we are, and it's not going to get
any better. This guy
Adam Curry: was crying on the air. I
John C Dvorak: have, you know, this is funny. You have that
clip from from Chris Hayes, because in my little series of
hurricane clips, it's included exactly this, well, not exactly,
but pretty much the same clip, only. He's crying more from NPR,
the same guy. This is the coordinated effort. Do
Adam Curry: you know which clip that is? Can we play that real
quick?
John C Dvorak: I'd rather play the whole series. All
Adam Curry: right, all right. I'll get through this.
Unknown: So we are now preparing for the second major climate
change fueled hurricane in two weeks, which could put a
dangerous strain on federal resources. Climate fueled New
York Times reports the Federal Emergency Management Agency is
running out of staff to deal with the potential devastation
of Hurricane. No as of Monday morning, just 9% of FEMA
personnel were available to respond to hurricane or other
disasters. While FEMA says it is well equipped to handle the
strains, it is a reminder the challenge of more frequent
natural disasters the times. What did
John C Dvorak: he say, he said 9% responded to the to one of
their was it? Helene, yes. Well, I thought they were like all,
all hands on deck, yeah.
Adam Curry: But the rest is at the border, helping people at
the border, getting them into hotels. As
Unknown: of Monday morning, just 9% of FEMA personnel were
available to respond. Oh, that was available. Where's that
John C Dvorak: 90% where the other 91
Adam Curry: that must be in
John C Dvorak: western 1000s and 1000s of people? Well, I
Adam Curry: hope they're in western North Carolina, but they
should have figured out anyway, that's just continue the
Unknown: hurricane or other disasters. Now, while FEMA says
it is well equipped to handle the strains, it is reminder the
challenge of more frequent natural disasters. The Times
noting that FEMA is also responding to flooding and land
signs in Vermont, tornadoes in Kansas, the aftermath of
Tropical Storm Debbie in New York and Georgia and the watch
fire in Arizona. And those are just disasters that were
declared the past two weeks. Okay, so
Adam Curry: now Chris gets Wait.
John C Dvorak: I want to point out. I want you to remember that
he said more frequent, more free, because I in my series of
clips, I got a little contradiction in here. Good,
good.
Adam Curry: So now Chris Hayes gets into some math, which is
just astounding. I'm not a climate scientist, nor is he
remember.
Unknown: What I'm telling you right now, what we're looking at
right now in the last week, what we're preparing for Milton. This
is what we are now facing with global average temperatures a
little over one degree Celsius higher than the pre Industrial
Average. Okay, one that's one 1% imagine what it will look like
when we reach two degrees, twice as bad. Oh, so
Adam Curry: if it's two degrees, then it'll be twice as bad, or
Unknown: three or four, that is the world. It'll be
Adam Curry: four times as bad if
John C Dvorak: it was. So let's see it goes from, let's say, one
degree higher, which would be a percent. What a point? If 5%
some small percentage, but somehow it's going to be twice
as bad. It's
Adam Curry: going to double. And if it's three degrees, work
exactly, exactly. It's fake news, or three
Unknown: or four. That is the world Donald Trump would push,
not that he cares. He thinks it would be good for real estate
values.
When I hear these people talking about global warming, that's the
global warming you have to worry about, not that the ocean is
going to rise in 400 years, an eighth of an inch, and you'll
have more seafront property, right? If that happens, I said,
is that good or bad? I said, Isn't that a good thing? If I
have a little property on the ocean, I have a little bit more
property. I have a little bit more ocean. Okay,
every time we play this clip, we just got to stop for one second.
Think about that for give it 10 seconds of your brain power.
Okay, if the oceans rise, do you have more beachfront property?
Does that make sense? The oceans rise? Do more beachfront or let
you have less?
Adam Curry: You said more ocean. Anyway, that so at least we know
it's all Donald Trump's fault in Donald Trump's and I will play
this last clip, and then we'll, we'll play your clips, and then
I'll come back to some of the conspiracy theories. And this
is, this has got to be my favorites. Now,
Unknown: we've known for decades our planet is warming, that we
would start seeing the brutal effects, but conservatives
running so deep in their denial, they're flailing around for
anyone or anything else to blame. Republican Congressman
Marjorie Taylor Greene, who is now like a big mover and shaker
in the Republican Party, is promoting a bizarre conspiracy
theory about a mysterious day. You can imagine who that is.
Adam Curry: So on the screen they have her tweet which says,
yes, they can control the weather. The weather always
remember that. So that's what she said. And I think we can
prove that that is probably true, not that this was the
case, but that's the tweet
Unknown: controlling the weather, suggesting that they
are sending hurricanes to Republican areas to impact the
election, like someone is sitting at some computer
somewhere pressing hurricane. It's not just her. She's now
being amplified by right wing media and the Republican nominee
himself, Chris, Chris decaf has the government figured out how
to build a storm into a super storm
that will destroy everything that's
passed, and then how to aim it. Right now, he's
Adam Curry: just playing some rando guys from I don't know,
YouTube or whatever, who are just talking crap where they
Unknown: want to aim it. It just happens to miss South Florida
while the Democrats live. Something
strange is going on. These
are Trump
counties.
John C Dvorak: Some actors to do stuff like, this
Adam Curry: is great. This
John C Dvorak: is great.
Unknown: Something strange is going on. These are Trump
John C Dvorak: counties. And don't tell me for a second.
Don't tell me for a second that what we're not seeing is a
massive government push, voter suppression
Unknown: operation.
You know, it's largely a Republican area. Some people say
they did it for that reason. I don't even think they're that
bad, but they probably made random,
Adam Curry: random clip, random clip, making it sound like Trump
is talking about some weather modification, which is not they
are.
Unknown: They say they're sending the storms they are
sending the storms. Tom Trump's running mate, Janie Vance, found
a way to get in on it too. Blaming it on immigrants,
you have FEMA, which is there for disaster relief for American
citizens after a terrible storm being deployed repeatedly to
deal with Kamala Harris' wide open border and the migrant
invasion that it's caused. That lack of focus on their core
mission, that distraction and focusing instead on illegal
immigrants, I guarantee that it has made the disaster response
worse.
Adam Curry: All right, so I want to come back to those weight
theories.
John C Dvorak: What did he did? He was that played on his show.
Adam Curry: That was van, that last
John C Dvorak: part of the tip, yeah,
Unknown: he played that.
That's dumb.
John C Dvorak: I'm saying that because he's trying to build a
case, and then he throws something out there which
actually is reasonable, yes, and if I'm listening to so that's
interesting. I mean that this is, these guys don't even know
how to do this, right? All right. So
Adam Curry: I want to come back to the weather modification and
conspiracy theories, but first, let's get into your clips before
we drift. Yeah, let's
John C Dvorak: get these out of the way. Yeah. This is a, this
is a series that's on NPR. This is part of a long presentation
on hurricane overview, and it brings in everything we need
that. It starts with Hurricane overview, N O, A, A,
Unknown: the damage hurricane Milton could cause is chilling,
but maybe it shouldn't be surprising. Julie
is looking to be an extraordinary one in a number of
ways. That
was Rick spinrad, head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration, last May, rolling out the federal agency's
annual hurricane outlook, NOAA
is predicting an above average 2024 Atlantic hurricane season.
Of note, the forecast for named storms, hurricanes and major
hurricanes, is the highest NOAA has ever issued for the May
outlook. One
big reason for that record breaking hurricane forecast,
record breaking hot water temperatures in the Atlantic
Ocean and the Gulf of Mexico. Now, the number of hurricanes
this year has not yet broken records, but the intensity of
some of the storms has been breathtaking.
It's just an incredible, incredible, incredible
hurricane.
Adam Curry: Incredible, incredible, really, that sounded
like a Dvorak repeats. No sweetening. Oh, interesting.
John C Dvorak: All right, he said that. All right. So that
goes on. This is like they're trying to build a case for. What
do you think you're going to build a case for? And it comes
up right away. I did early in the clippage
Unknown: that hot water in the Gulf allows storms to intensify
at unbelievable speeds, as Hurricane Milton did on Monday
afternoon. A fact that Move Veteran Florida meteorologist
John Morales nearly to tears,
he has dropped 50 millibars in 10 hours. I apologize, this is
just
horrific. Later in
that same report, Morales cited those hot ocean temperatures and
explained where they came from.
You know, what's driving that? I don't need to tell you, global
warming, climate change leading to this and becoming an
increasing threat. You know,
Adam Curry: it's interesting. You know, Tina lived in Florida
for 15 years, lived through a number of hurricanes. And I
said, was the millibar? Was the pressure ever an issue? Says, I
don't know anything about that. No one ever talked about
millibars. It's always been the wind speed. This seems to be a
new metric they're pulling in.
John C Dvorak: That's interesting. You're right,
because I've noticed it before. Now I think what's interesting,
also interesting, I hate to overuse that word, but is this
guy's in tears. He's obviously an emotional wreck. Probably
somebody shouldn't trust with any with your children or guns,
or guns, definitely no guns with that guy, red flag. And so you
so he so this is the guy that go goes right to climate change. So
he's an unstable person. Now he's going talking about climate
change. This is like, Okay, I'm not gonna even, I shouldn't even
be listening to this guy if he can't objectively report on the
news without crying about it.
Adam Curry: Well, he was doing his job. He's an actor.
Unknown: NPR climate editor Rachel waldholtz has been
looking into how a warming planet contributes to these
storms and what climate change could mean for the future of
catastrophic weather events. Hi Rachel, hi. Ari, first. Helene,
now Milton, are these two massive hurricanes in just about
two weeks, evidence that we are seeing more frequent storm
activity than in the past. So
actually, no, no,
Adam Curry: no, you better come up with something better than
that. So
John C Dvorak: that's why I wanted to mention call back to
Chris Hayes saying they're more frequent. Yeah,
Adam Curry: he's full of crap.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's totally full of crap.
Adam Curry: The numbers are there. Everyone can see the
numbers. There's just been less of them certainly this year.
John C Dvorak: So let's go. Okay, so onward to four.
Unknown: We haven't seen an increase in the number of
hurricanes hitting the US, but climate change is making many
storms more intense, so more powerful with way more rain,
more dangerous storm surge, more flooding. And so while the total
number of hurricanes isn't increasing, dangerous storms are
becoming more common, and that can definitely make it feel like
we're getting more overall. So
let's get to the climate change piece of this. We know that a
warming planet and includes warming oceans. Explain why
warming oceans helped a storm like Milton explode into a
category five as it moved across the Gulf before eventually
weakening. Yeah,
Adam Curry: yes, exploded before it actually got to landfall, and
it was a three actually crapped
John C Dvorak: out. Yeah, it did.
Adam Curry: It did
John C Dvorak: so. So we have this, this narrative going on,
and it's like, right in the middle of it, you have to do a
call back to climate isn't weather? Yes, correct. They
pounded it into us. Climate isn't weather, or weather is
weather
Adam Curry: isn't climate, I think was the exact phrase.
John C Dvorak: Either one, yes, it's the same thing. But the
point is, is that they'd always bring that out when it was
freezing cold. We had this, you know, yeah, yeah, it was really
cold. No, no, no, no. It's got nothing to do with it. But now
there's a little disaster going on. Yes, exactly. Oh, it's a.
This is what's causing it. Okay? So, so they go on with a before
the five they go on this. I put the word skip in there because I
skipped over a whole long lecture about how the hot water
boy pushes up into the hurricane and goes on and on and on about
this. And so did we end up with this after, after listening to
that for five minutes, we go to this. Okay,
Unknown: so warm oceans translate to stronger storms.
But there's another element here, which is that climate
change adds to sea level rise, which can create a bigger storm
surge, right? Explain that? Yeah,
so climate change is driving rising sea levels, and some of
the fastest rates of sea level rise in the world actually are
along the Gulf Coast. So that's driven by melting ice on land,
like the Greenland ice sheet, but also as water.
Adam Curry: So let me understand so the ice sheet is melting, and
therefore the water in the Gulf gets warmer. In the Gulf, in the
Gulf gets warmer from the melting ice goes up.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, of course it
Unknown: does. That's driven by melting ice on land like the
Greenland ice sheet. But the thing she said, got warmer. Let
me see driving rising sea levels. And some of the fastest
rates of sea level rise in the world actually are along the
Gulf Coast.
Adam Curry: I can't believe I'm not how come I don't have
beachfront property here in the heart of Texas. I should. So
Unknown: that's driven by melting ice on land like the
Greenland ice sheet. But also, as water gets warmer, it
expands. So then when a storm like Milton comes along, driving
this huge wall of water in front of it, and water levels are
already higher than they used to be, that's a recipe for really
catastrophic storm surge. And right now we're seeing
predictions of 15 feet of storm surge in some places.
Adam Curry: I don't think it reaches. Doesn't water expand
John C Dvorak: when you freeze it, yeah, yes, doesn't it? Yes,
yes.
Adam Curry: Why are you bringing logic to the show stop. Sorry.
John C Dvorak: You know.
Adam Curry: So it turns out they've also, so not only have
they added this, this new metric of barometric pressure, and at
millibars, yes, in millibars, not, not inches, which is
interesting, we do that in millibars, things because it
looks bigger in millibars, you know, instead of saying 29.9 so
millibars because then it's like, oh, it's 900 millibars.
There seems to also have been an interesting reshuffling of the
category with wind speeds. And I was unaware of this, but we do
have the best producers in the universe. So a category one
storm is wind speeds of 74 to 95 miles an hour. That's a 22 mile
per hour range. A category two storm, however, is 96 to 110
miles per hour. That's a 15 mile per hour range. Why? Why? I
don't understand why. Then we have category three, which we
call a major storm, is 111
John C Dvorak: I'm asking questions
Adam Curry: exactly which is a 111 to 129 mile per hour? That's
a 19 mile per hour range. And then category four. Now this is
the interesting a category four is anywhere from 130 to 156 so
now all of a sudden, that's a 27 mile per hour range. So it seems
like they're driving everything into at least a cat four, and
then a cat five is anything over 157 so this is a reminds me a
little bit of the of the changes they made to the Richter scale
and became the momentum scale for earthquakes, whatever
John C Dvorak: it is now, you
Adam Curry: know, whatever it is. So now we get into everybody
spinning up and spinning out, including friends of mine, good
friends of mine, like, oh, this was to disrupt the election, to
which I say, Okay, I love that, by the way, North Carolina blue,
so, so that wasn't the intention.
John C Dvorak: Democrat governor. Yes, it's a blue
state.
Adam Curry: But then you do Florida, like, okay, so what are
you really disrupting? We have an electoral college, you know.
So it's not going to make any difference, you know, if you do
it in Pennsylvania, and,
John C Dvorak: yeah, that's George.
Adam Curry: Want to do it? Yeah, that's just Michigan. Steer it
that way. Blow
John C Dvorak: up Michigan.
Adam Curry: So I have to just spend a little bit on on these
theories of weather modification, because there's,
you know, you can look at it several different ways. French
24 dove right into it more
Unknown: broadly. Do we know? Are there ways to try and
mitigate the dangers of hurricanes? Well, actually,
scientists
have long searched for a way to at least attenuate or even
prevent the formation of hurricanes, or at least to try
to change their track. It started after World War Two with
the project Cyrus, that was financed by GE but also the US.
Army. And what they did is that they projected dry ice straight
into the hurricane, thinking that, by
Adam Curry: the way, is very irritating. But in in France,
they don't say hurricane. They say hurricane. For some reason,
hurricane, it
Unknown: was going to modify the cloud envelope and change the
structure of the hurricane. And they did, you know, observe
somewhat, somewhat of some changes in the appearance of the
hurricane, but they couldn't establish a very strong causal
effect. So then there was another project that was a
little bit more known, called the storm fury project. It
lasted for 20 years. It was funded by the US government. And
here they did what we call cloud seeding. So here they dumped
what we call silver iodide, so these are salt crystals, and
once again, thinking that it would modify the structure to
increase the condensation and change the hurricane from
within. And they used it on several hurricanes in the 60s.
Esther Bulla, Debbie ginger, at first, the results were
encouraging, but then they stopped once again, because
there wasn't a strong causal effect. They couldn't say that
the these silver crystals were really the reason why the
hurricane had changed trajectory or intensity. And
there's another idea as well, Julia, this was a really, really
rather creepy one. And this is dropping an atomic bomb to blow
out in inverted commas, a newly formed hurricane. Tell us about
this? Well, exactly.
Thank God they didn't use it. Of course, this would have produced
radioactive fallout in a big way, and, of course,
environmental issues, but they did consider it okay.
Adam Curry: So there's been lots of experiments, so it's no
wonder that people discuss these things. And one of those
experiments actually veered the hurricane, often in a wrong
direction. People got very angry at the government. Now it
doesn't help that Lyndon Johnson, President Lyndon
Johnson was quite jitty about the whole concept,
Unknown: the foundation for the development of a weather
satellite
that will permit man to determine the world's
cloud labor and
ultimately to control the
weather, and he who controls
John C Dvorak: the weather will control the world. Yeah, He who
controls the weather to bring back classic. It's a classic.
And you, you know, you listen to the commentators, nobody. What
you're doing right now is should have been done by every by Fox,
for example. You were more interested in using the word
triage instead of
Adam Curry: prioritizing. And it also doesn't help that CIA
Director John O Brennan also kind of alluded to this, as
Unknown: promising as it may be, moving forward on essay
Adam Curry: he's going to talk about stratospheric. S was it s
Sai, Stratos, Stratospheric Aerosol injection, promising
Unknown: as it may be, moving forward on sai would also raise
a number of challenges for our government and for the
international community. On the technical side, greenhouse gas
emission reductions would still have to accompany sai to address
other climate change effects such as ocean acidification,
because sai alone would not remove greenhouse gasses from
the atmosphere. On the geopolitical side, the
technology's potential to alter weather patterns and benefit
certain regions of the world at the expense of other regions
could trigger sharp opposition by some nations. Others might
seize on sai benefits and back away from their commitment to
carbon dioxide reductions, and as with other breakthrough
technologies, global norms and standards are lacking to guide
the deployment and implementation of Sai and other
geoengineering initiatives. I could go on and on and on and on
about the things that fascinate me? Yeah,
Adam Curry: of course it fascinates him, because weather
modification, you can rule the world. So this is where these
conspiracies come from. And we have a we have a
John C Dvorak: just to defend Marjorie Taylor Greene, she
didn't say anything wrong.
Adam Curry: She didn't it was a very short tweet, and I think
she was spot on. It's inflammatory, you know, it's,
it's what Marjorie Taylor,
John C Dvorak: that's what she does. That's what
Adam Curry: she does. We have job. We have a knight who is
very high up in and he wants to remain anonymous, I have to say
carefully, in one of the larger American weather modification
associations. And so he has a lot of background. I checked him
out, so I can't, I can't talk about him per se. But he says,
look, look. He said, There is no evidence that there was any
weather modification done in these two instances, I'm just
going to take him at his word, and that's sure he's correct,
and yes, and he checks out, and I can't believe that they don't
have someone like him on Fox and Friends. No. Instead, we have to
deal with insane things, and whenever. Where I get an eight
second clip, I'm like, wait a minute, and even just listening
to this clip, because it was only audio, I knew right away
that this was not the director of FEMA. We
Unknown: plan to execute between 70 and 80 we plan to evacuate
between 70 and 80,000 people.
Adam Curry: So first of all, I think the director of FEMA, or
the administrator is a woman. So this is a black guy. It's Lloyd
Austin from 2021 and I remember this because somebody sent you
this clip. Oh, it's all over. You got the girls going like,
oh, is this the truth? Wanting to come out? Oh, yeah, there's
Unknown: exceeded all expectations. Yeah, that's
Lloyd, Austin. It's Austin. We plan to execute between 70 and
80. We plan to evacuate between 70 and 80,000 people.
Adam Curry: So it's like, oh, okay, please. This is a very old
clip, and it goes around and people like, they're going to
execute people the other, the other one that really got me,
yeah, the one that really got, I think is fabulous, is now this,
this was people were getting mad at me about this, because I was,
look, I have experience,
John C Dvorak: and if you're gonna get mad, they should get
mad at you, yes, oh, they never
Adam Curry: get mad at you. They should. You need to exalt the
older men? Yes. So this is a clip of North Carolina, and it
only had titles over it, and it had this really ominous music.
I'll play it with a Blackhawk helicopter, and it would say,
Oh, look at them. It's unmarked. They're coming over here.
They're rotor washing us. And so I get emails from people I
learned a new term, rotor washing. Look at what they're
doing to us. They're rotor washing us. And I'm like, Okay,
it looks to me, just from a pilot perspective. And I have a
lot of hours. I have more hours on helicopter than fixed wing,
including a Chinook one hour. But okay, so Chinook, and I said
the Blackhawk is very powerful. Around 53 feet is when you're
gonna start blowing stuff away on the ground. It looks to me
like they're coming in to figure out where they can land, and
then you decide to take off. And yeah, your tents are gonna fly
away, and your boxes are gonna, you know, move around on the
ground. But if they were really rotor washing you, which I have
done, I have rotor washed a sailboat in Holland. It was fun.
The guys loved it. There was there on the lake, and we came
out on purpose, yeah, but they wanted it because we were
helping that we were giving him speed, and they thought it was
hilarious, so we were blowing their sail. And so I know you
have to come down a lot, especially with that, you know,
53 feet is about where, where it's at. And so now we get the
story was North Carolina National Guard. They were
looking, they actually thought they could land. And Well,
here's the story, the North
Unknown: Carolina National Guard is investigating an accident or
an incident, I should say, of one of its helicopters at a
Helene Donation Center. Viewer
shared this video of the chopper coming too close to a
distribution site in Burnsville. The National Guard says this
happened as the pilot tried to land and deliver generators. The
National Guard says on approach, the crew noticed that there were
too many people tents and supplies close the landing
supply. So the helicopter took back off. They also admit they
did not get clearance to land from local law enforcement
station.
Safety is our number one Paramount with our forces that
we have on the ground. And so we are again continuing to
investigate that we do have some communication with the landing
sites and the people that we are going to take commodities to
it's matured over time. Initially we had no
communication, so we were just making a call and landing but
now the landing sites have been more mature, and we do have
communication with emergency personnel that are on the
ground.
Major General Todd hunt said he is very sorry for the incident.
He says the crew is grounded for now, and they're working with
the organization to identify how much damage the crew caused.
Adam Curry: So, oh, so, of course, you know this was not, I
mean, the implication this is because there's so little trust,
or maybe just massive distrust in our government at the moment
that people jump to this conclusion that they're trying
to purposely hurt them. I just don't think that was the case
and but the programming was so strong when I even said, Hey, I
don't think that's, I don't think this is their purposely
rotor washing. Because if you really purposely want to rotor
wash, people would be flying around on the ground. You know
this, this was they're trying to, they're trying to do
reconnaissance. Can we land here? They fly away and but
people are so spun up. Because, for sure, the reliance on the
government has been so built up we talked about in the last
show, so built up by people. Oh, the government's going to come
and save me. And what's happening in western North
Carolina. It's horrible. I mean, we're not getting and of course,
all of that news is going to be pushed to the back burner. We're
only going to be talking about Florida right now. It's all
minimal because, oh, god forbid we make anybody look good,
because you can't. The government is not set up to be
the knights in shining armor. They're not set up to save you.
They're not they talk a big game, just like Kamala is going
to save you with, I don't know, building houses. And they just
talk, the sooner we realize that that's not the way it is, the
better it is. And we're just in this horrible, I don't know, 80
or 100 year cycle. Well, you know, we had Sir Mark and Dame
Astrid here, Sunday and Monday. Fantastic. We had a great time.
And Sir Mark was telling us how he went to the Fukushima, you
know, just check stuff out the little tour up there. And they
went to this hilltop, and there were three monuments, and he
says, Oh, is this the monument for Fukushima? And the Japanese
guide there said, oh, yeah, we do it for every time it happens.
This happens every 100 years. So this is from 100 years ago. This
from 200 years ago. See, we didn't, we don't hear all that,
but that's Mother Earth wins every single time. So you know,
to throw in climate change and all of this nonsense. It's, it's
dishonest, and it's, it's just programming weak minded brothers
and sisters into believing it and going along with the program
and eating bugs, and it makes everybody else crazy and mad,
because they're, doing it. They're doing they're doing it
to screw the elections. No, it's just life Trump's fault. Yeah,
it's for, well, of course, it's all Trump's fault. The same, by
the way, goes for the and Trump is out there. He's, he's talking
this thing up too, which is bull crap, this Kamala Harris 60
Minutes interview. What? They edited it. They took out all the
stupid stuff. Okay, yeah, 60 minutes. Chopped down their
interview to get it into, I don't know, 60 minutes. And yes,
they chopped out all the fluff and the nonsense that she talks.
But they had put that. Let's
John C Dvorak: stop right there. That's what you do. Yes,
Adam Curry: that's what you do. With an interview
John C Dvorak: I used to guy I knew, David Renson, who used to
write for Playboy. We were talking one day about how I met
him because they were going to do a piece of it involved me and
he's talked about the best interviews in the Playboy,
interviews are extremely edited, because that otherwise you're
going to bore people stiff. If you look at something like
Interview magazine, when that was around, they would do Waldo.
Their interviews are, were straight up, and it was a lot
of, well, the way I see it's like get it's like taking and
doing a transcription of Elon Musk, who's gonna read this
crap.
Adam Curry: So when I, of course, you know, everyone had
the side by side, it's about 15 seconds longer the unedited bit,
and we can certainly play it. But the point is, it was CBS
themselves who put the whole, the full answer Question and
Answer out. It was on Face The Nation as a promo reel for the
interview. Because then, when I saw this, like, Well, where did
this come from? This tape. Was it leaked? Is there someone
within CBS? Because that's the implication, oh, we got the raw,
unreaded footage. They just put it out there. They was part of a
promo for the whole 60 Minutes interview and and by the way,
the whole thing is chopped up. You think that was you
John C Dvorak: have to do that. That's what you do. You do this
is an entertainment at some level. You don't bore people
stiff with the real deal, because no one's going to follow
it. They're going to go nuts. Yes, she's a hopeless case.
She's dumb.
Adam Curry: Yeah, she is. She and if anything is a
John C Dvorak: dumb person, you can see it in her eyes.
Adam Curry: I have actually have a backgrounder here, because she
went on this, yeah, here, this France 24 again, but they had a
good little summary of her media blitz.
Unknown: We asked ahead of time. With just four weeks to go, it's
her last chance for voters to get to know her better, cracking
open a can of lager on Stephen Colbert's talk show, Vice
President Harris continued her week long, high profile media
blitz. Howard Stern's radio show, whose listenership skews
white and male. She took a mix of more hardline questions on
policy, but also showed her personality. Sis.
Listen, I've been the first and first woman in almost every
position I've had. Yeah. So I believe that men and women
support women in leadership, and that's been. My life experience,
and that's why I'm running for president, and that's
in a bid to reach every demographic. Four string of
appearances has included non traditional outlets like the
call her daddy podcast, a Gen Z millennial fan favorite with
biggest female listenership body.
Unfortunately, Kamala Harris doesn't have anything keeping
her humble. How did that make you feel?
I don't think she understands that there are a whole lot of
women out here who one are not aspiring to be humble.
However, critics have argued that Harris is still introducing
herself this close to the election, and accuse her of
being unable to align herself from Joe Biden's administration.
Would you have done something differently than President Biden
during the past four years?
There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of, and I've
been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact.
Look Bill Paris
eventually clarified that, unlike Biden, she plans to put a
Republican in her cabinet, with seven battleground states up for
grabs, and polls continuing to show a tight race, the interview
burst is intended to hit a large portion of the media spectrum
and dispel criticism about her infrequent engagement with the
mainstream media. All right, so
Adam Curry: I've looked at all of it. I looked at the 60
minutes. I looked at the view all of call her daddy boy. That
was that was bored me to tears. It was, I mean, no, it was
terrible. One blow job question. It was so boring. And
John C Dvorak: that's the thing that I mentioned in the
newsletter, and I just want to reiterate it, yes, uh, Alexandra
Cooper, Alex, Alex, who split off from Sophia with an F Sophia
Franklin, because they used to be partners, and then they split
off, and Alexandra got a potload of money because she was she
played her cards right, and her and I've listened to her podcast
now and again, trying to get some clips from it. Never been
able to, all she does is talk about blow jobs. She is
preoccupied with blow jobs. Yes, yes. And so it's like, and
she'll go on and on and on about it with people. I don't think a
lot of people want to talk about it and but she talks about and
talks about and so it so she doesn't talk about it with
Camelot. But as I mentioned the newsletter, there's a very
interesting irony here that, because I don't think cameras
people knew anything about this podcast, they just knew it was
big. Is second to Rogan at Spotify, supposedly, and so it's
a monster podcast that has a big audience, and that's all they
knew. It's this is like media buyers. They don't know what
they're doing, and so they put her on there. And the irony of
her being on a blow basically a blow job podcast, did not elude
a lot of people, including me.
Adam Curry: So here's my conclusion, besides her word
salad and saying nothing, which is okay, if you gave me 10 women
and put them in a lineup and said, Okay, you're casting for
president, she would be last. There is nothing about her at
all that has anything presidential. She has dead eyes.
She has when she talks, She frowns when she talks, which is
very off putting she has a bit of that vocal fry America
John C Dvorak: a wine, a Berkeley wine, Berkeley
Adam Curry: wine. We
John C Dvorak: choose a Berkeley wine. We
Adam Curry: choose our presidents like we choose our
breakfast cereal. And this is not what Americans go for. I
don't understand why the Republicans and conservatives in
our country are so spun up about it. She's not going to be
elected. Now, can they cheat? I even doubt that you can't cheat
enough. Yeah, too big to rig. She is really unappealing, just
unappeal She is. She's unappealing, which is the whole
reason why she had 1% when she was running for president, she
had to drop out. It was so embarrassing, because no one
likes her. She's unlikable. And I'm saying this from a
television producer perspective. You
John C Dvorak: can say from any perspective you want. I think if
you talk to a lot of women don't like or, I mean, the only people
that like or don't have never seen her do anything, they're
just voting Democrat. Huge number of people out there,
Adam Curry: yeah, sure, huge number, yes, but those are the
ones who aren't hurting in the pocketbook.
John C Dvorak: Might be, but they just vote Democrat. There
are people that vote Democrat. There are people that vote
Republican, and there's a big range of people that actually
take a look at Yeah, and they decide late, I do
Adam Curry: want to play just two clips from the 60 Minutes
interview, just to put some content and. A to this segment
where we just slag women off based upon their parents.
John C Dvorak: That's what you did. I didn't do it. You're
guilty
Adam Curry: by association. Here she is, and there's a lot of
hey, hey, you know, if you don't mind me, excuse me. I'm talking.
Let me. Let me finish. That
John C Dvorak: does not work.
Adam Curry: No, it's very it's not good at all. This is about
the border. Was
Unknown: it a mistake to loosen the immigration policies? As
much as you dig.
It's a long standing edit,
Adam Curry: by the way, edit I can just you can tell where all
the edits are. This thing was completely chopped up, not just
this one bit immigration
Unknown: policies,
as much as you did. It's a long standing problem, and solutions
are at hand, and from day one, literally, we have been offering
solutions.
What I was asking was, was it a mistake to kind of allow that
flood to happen in the first place. I
think the policies that we have been proposing are about fixing
a problem, not promoting a problem. Okay, but the numbers
did quadruple, and the numbers today because of what we have
done, we have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half. We
have to cut the flow of fentanyl by half, but we need Congress to
be able to act to actually fix the
problem. Okay, so
Adam Curry: that's a very bad answer, very bad answer, and
everybody knows it. And then the other one is about her flip
flopping on all of our policies. Let
Unknown: me tell you what your critics and the colonists say.
Adam Curry: The columnist or the columnist, pay attention.
Unknown: We tell you what your critics and
John C Dvorak: hold that. Now I should mention what's kind of
what, what
Adam Curry: columnist? Columnist, the columnist. Oh, I
tell you the columnist. Oh, God, lordy. Let me
Unknown: tell you what your critics and the columnists say?
Okay, they say, the reason so many voters don't know you is
that you have changed your position on so many things. You
were against fracking. Now you're for it. You supported
looser immigration policies. Now you're tightening them up.
You're for Medicare for all. Now you're not so many that people
don't truly know what you believe or what you stand for,
and I know you've heard that.
In the last four years, I have been vice president United
States, and I have been traveling our country, and I
have been listening to folks and seeking what is possible in
terms of common ground. I believe in building consensus.
We are diverse people, geographically, regionally, in
terms of where we are in our backgrounds, and what the
American people do want is that we have leaders who can build
consensus, where we can figure out compromise and understand
it's not a bad thing, as long as you don't compromise your values
to find common sense solutions, and that has been my approach.
There
Adam Curry: was a whole article in Atlantic magazine because
they're so mad. They're so mad about Kamala and Trump going on
podcasts and like, well, it's not real if you just want a
softball personality in your head. Face it, mainstream media.
Face it, M, 5m podcasts are taken over. Go sit behind the Go
ahead. Sit behind the the paywall. See how you do.
John C Dvorak: I have a good, just an interrupting clip here
about podcasts that was sent over by Steve. And where is this
thing? It's actually kind of fits right into what you're
saying.
Unknown: I'm looking,
John C Dvorak: I'm looking too.
Adam Curry: Oh NPR, the candidates appear on podcasts.
John C Dvorak: Yes, okay. Vice President
Unknown: and candidate Kamala Harris have been stepping up
media appearances lately. She's been getting criticism that
she's not spending enough time in the public eye. Harris has
done traditional shows like 60 minutes and also hitting the
podcast circuit. Last week, she turned up on the podcast all the
smoke, hosted by former NBA champ Stephen Jackson and Matt
Barnes as
someone who's been the first in a lot of spaces you've been in,
a woman of color knocking on the door to possibly be the next
president. How do you protect your mental health and your
mental space?
Number one rule,
Adam Curry: John, how do you protect your mental space?
John C Dvorak: I really, I'm very mental space. Yes,
Adam Curry: you protect your mental space.
Unknown: You protect your mental health and your mental space.
Well, number one rule, don't read the comments. Fantastic. If
you
have a specific slice Sarah people that you want to reach,
there is a podcast for that. That's for sure. There's a lot
of them, but when you and I are doing interviews, I mean, we
have. Journalistic principles that we follow. So those
podcasts follow any of that
typically not. I mean, these are typically run by hosts who are
influencers. Maybe they are former reality stars or former
athletes. They are not people who typically have journalistic
training, although you'll see they prepare for interviews.
Sometimes they'll reference sound bites. They'll try to make
sure that this interview feels very authoritative, but at the
end of the day, the same type of journalistic standards and
scrutiny that you and I would pose on an interview don't exist
here. And so the reason why I think you're going to have
pressure to do both types of environments, formal sit down
interview with a journalistic outlet like an NPR or, you know,
in the case of last night 60 minutes. It's because voters
want to know more about your actual platform, as opposed to,
if you're sitting down with a podcaster, they're just getting
to know a little bit more about
Adam Curry: you personally. Oh, it's pretty much the same thing
in the Atlantic, the same thing. Oh, there's no there's no
journalistic integrity. They don't have producers and people
looking for stuff and digging through and there's no critical
questions. What a crock. Totally and I am, I will say
John C Dvorak: that, by the way, I there's a lot of podcasts that
have journalists involved with them. Yeah, I would say this is
one of them, but I don't like to brag about that, but the whole
New York Times podcast is just journal is yakking about stuff,
yes,
Adam Curry: but of course, you know the really successful ones
where the money is, which we're not making with our integrity
and our journal and our J school diplomas like Joe Rogan. And I
have to say, I find it peculiar that neither candidate has been
on Rogan I know why Trump, at least, I think I know why Trump
hasn't been on is because at least a while ago it was, you
know, Hey, you want to be on my show, you got to come to my
studio. And Trump only does him at Mar a Lago. So I understand
that there's, that's a I understand Joe like, come to my
studio. I think Kamala should go. In fact, it would be I
should
John C Dvorak: go on that show in a million years. If she did,
she I think those bookers that booked her on the call her daddy
show or idiots. I think they're smart enough to not put her on
Rogan, I have to. I'd be stunned if she ever showed up on Rogan.
I can
Adam Curry: predict, though, in the future election, we won't
make it to the next one because we only have four more years.
But in four
John C Dvorak: more years in future, but the four more years
could be perpetual. Oh,
Adam Curry: okay, Dream on. So in four more years, I can see
where an actual debate would take place in a very in a
podcast, just two candidates sitting down, arguing, yelling,
getting into it, getting into it,
John C Dvorak: more likely that a lazy podcaster would let them
go For because you sit back. I mean, if you do enough radio or
any of these free content, yeah, free content, you back off and
you just let them go for it, yelling at each other, because,
you know people are going to tune in, and
Adam Curry: you don't need a moderator. There's no moderator
John C Dvorak: just having me yell at each other. Yes, I would
pack them in. Just
Adam Curry: toss a question up. All right, let's border crisis
go. That's all he needs to do. In fact, I'm happy to facilitate
that. So let me play two podcast clips from an NPR podcast. So
this is kind of meta where the NPR politics podcast is talking
about Kamala on the call her daddy podcast. It's meta, and
Unknown: today on the show, A Look at VICE PRESIDENT Harris's
media strategy Harris is doing. Why
Adam Curry: do they not get the good mics in the good studio for
NPR podcasts? What is this sound? I
John C Dvorak: think this is just the bad sound that I'm
getting all the time, but you came through crummy.
Adam Curry: This is them. This is just how it sounds. It's bad.
And
John C Dvorak: today on the show, A Look has better mics.
Thank you. Harris's
Unknown: media strategy, Harris is doing a whirlwind of three
interviews today, which was the impetus for our podcast. You
know, since she has become the Democratic nominee, she's done a
mix of mainstream broadcast television interviews places
like CNN and CBS, is 60 minutes. And then she's also done
untraditional interviews with podcasts to engage with folks
who might not be traditional news consumers.
Adam Curry: See that they are so irked, they are beside
themselves, because, you know, come is not going to go on the
NPR politics podcast, which no one listens to, but other
podcasters.
Unknown: Aline, I want to start the conversation with you. What
is the thinking behind the mix the combination of interviews
Harris has been doing. This is a very
interesting strategy, this new kind of realm of of podcasts.
Going on social media. You know, that's kind of a clear hand out
to younger voters. No
Adam Curry: has nothing to do with younger voters. What
picture the average Rogan listener is older than you think
Unknown: to to kind of get them involved in the places that they
consume information. And you know, regardless of where she's
going, these are places with audiences of millions of people.
John C Dvorak: That's just a thought. Pastor, I think they're
equating podcast listeners with tick tock listeners or viewers,
because that is a younger demographic. I'm convinced of
it. I'm
Adam Curry: not even I'm not even sure of that the people I
see addicted to tick tock are my age, I'm not so sure about that.
Well,
John C Dvorak: okay, you got me there. It's possible I'm wrong.
No, this,
Adam Curry: this is just what you're hearing in their voices.
Bigotry,
John C Dvorak: by the way,
Adam Curry: is what they're angry. They're angry. They're
angry because, oh well, they have the big audiences, because
they're just influencers, because they're just no good. I
mean, you're fighting, they're fighting a system that is that
you always lose because, yes, they have big audiences, because
they don't have a stick up their butt like you do with a crappy
sound. You
Unknown: know, regardless of where she's going, these are
places with audiences of millions of people, and she's
going on these podcasts that you know, are kind of more geared
towards younger folks. She just went on on Sunday to Alex
Cooper's show called call her daddy, which is a show mostly, I
mean entertainment podcast. It's one of the top shows in the
country, and it's about topics like sex and relationships. And
Harris kind of had this long conversation about different
issues affecting young women today, and talked a lot about
abortion. So let's talk
a little bit more about a couple of these specific podcast
interviews she's done. Let's talk specifically about the call
her daddy episode.
John C Dvorak: This idea of, let's talk about, let's talk
about, I've noticed this on a lot of these, these, this comes
from Amy Goodman. This will tell us about, let's talk about,
let's talk about this. We've never done that on this show,
what
Adam Curry: say you?
John C Dvorak: What say you? Well, that's even worse.
Adam Curry: Yes,
Unknown: she's done let's talk specifically about the call her
daddy episode. You know, I felt like it was, in a lot of ways,
it was like an infomercial for Harris. It was just an
opportunity for her to talk at length.
That's what she wanted. It almost to me, felt like the
point of that interview was to do the interview, if that makes
sense, like her being on the podcast just to say the words
Kamala Harris is on call her daddy, like that in itself, is
something I've heard. You know, folks around my age feel like,
oh my god, this is kind of crazy because of what I said earlier.
This show is not known for talking about politics.
Adam Curry: Politics. Have another you want to hear more of
this, these two dingbats.
John C Dvorak: I want to mention that if you listen to the
beginning of the call for call for daddy, call call her daddy.
Call for daddy, there's a call me your podcast. We're going to
start with a call for daddy. Call for daddy. So
Adam Curry: it's a faith based podcast, call for dad.
John C Dvorak: Alex goes starts it off with an unbelievable
like, five minutes of apologia. I'm using that word instead of
apology, but Apollo that she's doing this at all. Yes, she goes
on and on and on about, wait, don't do politics
Adam Curry: cross legged like crisscross applesauce on her
oversized couch. Okay, all right, daddy verse, whatever she
calls it, daddy verse,
John C Dvorak: daddy verse. I am convinced that she was forced
into this by Spotify. Maybe, I think so, because she was so
apology. Didn't want to do it. There doesn't fit into the for
you blah, blah, blah. She went on and on and on, saying she's
sorry for doing this, as you know. So I guess they let her
get away with with that excuse. But the whole thing was off top.
It was off. It was off. It was off. What do you call it? It's
not off topic, but it's off. Sucks,
Adam Curry: sucks. It sucks. Not relevant. That's
John C Dvorak: it sucks, not
Adam Curry: relevant, not relevant. All right, so Well,
that's enough of that, but let's stay with the same podcast,
because they spent a lot of time talking about the new deets. The
new deets on the case filed against Trump for January 6. Oh,
no, there's new evidence. It's hard evidence he's going down.
Oh, we've got something. We've got him now. So
Unknown: we are in the middle of a presidential campaign, and we
are still getting new details about Donald Trump's efforts to
overturn the last presidential election, this time in the form
of a filing from Special Counsel Jack Smith. Can you just explain
what happened this week? Yeah, absolutely.
There. There were new things to learn, even though, and of the
January 6 committee on Capitol Hill and many others have been
spending a lot of time and energy digging up details. The
difference here is that the Justice Department and the FBI.
Had subpoena power. They could execute searches, and people
felt the need or compelled to talk, and so we got some new
details. Maybe the most significant to me was on the day
of the Capitol riot itself, on January 6, 2021 the prosecutors
asserted that it was Donald Trump himself who was sitting in
a dining room off the Oval Office watching Fox News and
issuing some of the tweets himself that day. In particular,
that tweet around 2:24pm, where he said his Vice President Mike
Pence lacked the courage to do the right thing. Remember, Trump
and others had been leaning on pence to kind of put a pause on
the certification of the electoral votes, and pence
refused. And you know, there was violence at the capitol that
day. Within a minute of Trump's tweet, Pence had been evacuated
by the Secret Service, and then an aide came rushing in to tell
Trump that there was chaos and danger at the Capitol, including
toward Mike Pence. And according to this new filing, Trump
replied, so what? Oh,
no.
Adam Curry: So this is new evidence. Throw the book at him.
Oh, but wait, there's more.
Unknown: So a lot of new detail here. Additional new detail. The
former president allegedly said to his daughter Ivanka and son
in law Jared that the details about the election really didn't
matter, and election fraud really didn't matter. You've
just got to fight like hell. And so that is new evidence about
what Trump said and did on key days, as well as his state of
mind and about his state of mind
Adam Curry: these people, I mean, I'm throwing them out of
podcast index. I'm censoring them, I'm throwing them out.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you could actually, technically, maybe,
Adam Curry: no, technically, I could do it right now. I won't.
They deserve it and so, and I know you have two, two clips on
this, which I think will probably expand on this general
overview, because not only do we have this damning evidence of
Trump saying you've got to fight like hell and who cares? I mean,
oh my god. I mean, we need to throw him in jail. No, no, but,
but that nut job is back.
Unknown: Donald Trump's relationship with Vladimir Putin
has been scrutinized since his 2016 bid for President. The
Republican leader has long embraced Putin, whose
intelligence policies were found to have meddled in US elections.
Now, a new book by veteran American journalist Bob Woodward
reports further explosive details on the two men's
interactions, first
Adam Curry: of all, spook and second of all explosive details,
the
Unknown: Opus titled war cites and the Opus.
Adam Curry: What? What is an opus?
John C Dvorak: What does that even mean? Like, you know, Ben
Hur Yes,
Unknown: the Opus titled war cites an unnamed Trump aide who
says the pair had spoken as many as seven times since Trump left
office. The aide also recalls one instance early this year
where they were ordered out of Trump's office in Mar a Lago so
he could take a call with the Russian president. However, the
book also quotes a Trump campaign official who cast doubt
on the supposed contact. Former presidents often speak with
foreign leaders, but it's highly unusual to talk to a leader of
one of the United States adversaries without first
clearing it with the State Department. The book also
alleges Trump sent Putin covid 19 testing equipment for his
personal use in 2020 when many nations were facing shortages.
In a statement, the Trump campaign said these were made up
stories and called Woodward a demented and deranged man. The
Kremlin, meanwhile, also denied the conversations between Trump
and Putin. Woodward rose to fame after he and his colleague Carl
Bernstein, exposed the Watergate scandal, bringing down Richard
Nixon, he's written more than 20 books on American politics and
current affairs, including 14 bestsellers. What
Adam Curry: happened to America? Man, we used to love people who
would do stuff like that. You just say, I remember Ronald
Reagan, he was doing a speech and something like a gun sound
went off, and he went, Oh, you missed me. I mean, these funny
things and oh, now I remember. Now it's an outrage and so
horrible. It's hilarious. We need,
John C Dvorak: we need more, dude, back back to this topic
you just broached. I do have a three by three which covers it.
Okay,
Adam Curry: so I'm sorry. Here we go. Now it's time for three
by three, yes, experiment by successful experiment, comparing
stories from ABC, CBS and NBC, lot of people get real happy
when they hear that. Music, oh yes, it's a three by music. It's
happy. Music, yes, we have a three by three of this topic,
this is interesting
John C Dvorak: now. We heard, yeah, I thought I was this
again, Steve sent us in. So I will say the first clip, owner
plays ABC. Now you heard the part where, I guess Trump sent
over a piece of gear to to Putin,
Adam Curry: yeah, like, like, one of the one of those free
testing kits. You got four No, no.
John C Dvorak: He said, This gear you were talking about.
What do you think that was
Adam Curry: free testing? Kids, it would have to
John C Dvorak: be a PCR testing module. It has to be some sort
of, you know, equipment, right? Well, you're
Adam Curry: gonna spin it up, okay. Well, I
John C Dvorak: guess I mean, what else would it be? They're
good. In this clip, Kamala Harris is brought into the
convention moan, and she she makes it sound as if, because I
think she thinks this, that what Trump did, and he listened
between the lines, he didn't say, no, no, it wasn't some PCR
gear. It was a bunch of kits. Yes, you're those three kids
that you get four, four household, 100 of them.
Adam Curry: Trump probably had amongst his 17 grandchild, and
he probably had, you know, about 100 so he probably sent here
Senator Vlad DHL.
John C Dvorak: But we have to, we're assuming it was a PCR
gear. It wasn't a bunch of boxes of cheap tests that don't do
anything. But let's listen to this. As the covid pandemic was
raging and the government could not produce enough tests for the
American people, then President Donald Trump secretly sent rare
covid test machines to Russia to Vladimir's dictator's personal
use. That's according to Bob Woodward in a soon to be
published book called War, Woodward writes that Putin told
Trump to keep it a secret, saying quote, I don't want you
to tell anybody, because people will get mad at you, not me.
Kamala Harris seized on Woodward's new reporting today,
talking about it in an interview with Howard Stern, everybody was
Unknown: scrambling to get these kits, the tests, the covid test
kits, couldn't get them, couldn't get them, couldn't get
them anywhere. Howard
Adam Curry: Stern had 1000 of them, hypochondriac and
Unknown: this guy who was president of the United States,
is sending them to Russia, to a murderous dictator for his
personal use, this person who wants to be president again, who
secretly is helping out an adversary when the American
people are dying by the hundreds every day and in need of relief,
Trump also had some choice words for Woodward, calling him a
storyteller who, quote, lost his marbles. Woodward, though, is
one of the most respected journalists of our times. And as
you know, David Trump has frequently praised Vladimir
Putin and boasted about having a good relationship with the
Russian dictator.
Adam Curry: You know, we don't talk about this enough, but I
gotta blow I gotta blow taps for Howard Stern. What happened to
Howard Stern, the king of all media, The Man Who Would he was
fighting the man fighting the FCC, fighting the government.
What happened? What do they have on him? How did this? How did
this happen that he became a photo. What's that in your
mouth? Howard? Now it's, it is, it's sad. I, I used to love
driving into New York from Jersey for years at the Lincoln
Tunnel, sitting there. Now, at least Howard's on when it was
best of Stern, we were still happy, and now it's just what
has gone wrong.
John C Dvorak: Well, you're not the only one that's mystified by
this. No, it was very let's go with the second, the second of
the three, three by three. So we go with, let's go to CBS
Unknown: during the early days of the pandemic in 2020 then
President Donald Trump sent Russian President Vladimir Putin
covid 19 test machines. According to the new book War by
Bob Woodward, Vice President Kamala Harris responded today
during an interview with Howard Stern, everybody
was scrambling to get these kits, the tests, the covid test
kits, couldn't get them, couldn't get them, couldn't get
them anywhere, right? This guy who was president of the United
States is sending them to Russia to a murderous dictator for his
personal use.
Even after he left office, Trump stayed in touch with the Russian
leader. According to Woodward, he cites an unidentified Trump
aide who said the former president had as many as seven
private calls with Putin, even one early this year, when Trump
was urging Republicans to block additional aid to Ukraine in its
fight against Russia, the newly revealed contacts raised
additional questions about Trump's relationship with Putin
in the recent presidential debate, Trump twice refused to
say who he wanted to prevail in the war with Ukraine. Do
you want Ukraine? Time to win this war.
I want the war to stop. The
vice president told 60 minutes Trump would have allowed Putin
to conquer Ukraine.
Donald Trump, if he were president, Putin would be
sitting in Kyiv right now. He talks about, oh, he can end it
on day one. You know what that is. It's about surrender.
Woodward,
who rose to fame investigating Watergate writes in the book,
Trump was far worse than Richard Nixon, a Trump spokesman
responded saying Woodward's reporting is not true and that
Trump gave Woodward absolutely no access
hit job.
John C Dvorak: Now a couple of things about this, and the other
one is that neither report mentions the fact that they talk
about machines, covid, PCR, machines are here. They said it
here in this report. No, they said it was machines. But they
never make the point that she's talking about test kits, kits.
Yeah, by the way, clear that this machines are not test kits.
Yet they play her talking about test kits with no clarification
whatsoever. I have some clips later in the show, if we get to
them, about some of the science reporting on NPR, doing the same
kind of thing, leaving out details that are necessary for
understanding. Leaving out details that are necessary for
understanding is what these networks are doing. And they're
doing a they're doing a disservice to the American
public with this sort of reporting just I it's just
beyond me What What I know is going on. So I'm
Adam Curry: looking for an excerpt in war would this is
from BBC in war. Woodward writes that while the former president
was in office, Trump secretly sent Putin a bunch of Abbott
point of care covid test machines for his personal use.
So that is what was written in the book. So Harris is
completely nuts when she's talking about the test kits. And
have you noticed that Howard's voice is lighter like he's he
does. He does. He talks a little more in the front of his mouth.
He doesn't have that throaty
John C Dvorak: I didn't know this is but you would, yeah. All
right, let's play the last of the three, which will be NBC
Unknown: tonight in her ongoing media blitz. Vice President
Harris telling ABC she wouldn't change anything President Biden
did.
Would you have done something differently than President Biden
during the past four years.
There is Donna thing that comes to mind in terms of, and I've
been, I think
Adam Curry: she lost the election on this. I think this
was the this was the loser. When you say this, nothing comes to
mind, yeah,
John C Dvorak: and there's plenty that just there was wide
days. It was a softball that Sonny horses had to literally
read from a sheet. Yes,
Adam Curry: this was the, I think this is the election
losing answer, right? There
Unknown: is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of, and
I've been a part of, most of the decisions that have had impact
later, saying she would name a Republican to her cabinet,
former President Trump slamming the response, calling it quote
her dumbest answer so far, and Biden the worst president in
history. Meanwhile, Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward
writes in a new book that former President Trump secretly sent
Russian President Putin covid tests for his personal use in
2020 please don't tell anybody you sent these to me. Woodward
says Putin told Trump I don't care. Trump replied, fine.
Woodward citing an unnamed aide who claims Trump may have spoken
to Putin as many as seven times since leaving the White House.
NBC News has not confirmed Woodward's reporting. The Trump
campaign responding in part, quote, none of these made up
stories by Bob Woodward are true. Harris slamming Trump
today,
everybody was scrambling to get these kits, the tests. This guy
who was president of the United States, is sending them to
Russia, to a murderous dictator for his personal use. Brother
John C Dvorak: NBC did the worst job of it, because they didn't
even indicate that it was a machine, no, which you easily
noted. It took you all of two seconds to read from the from
BBC document from
Adam Curry: the book. Oh, gee, there's
John C Dvorak: like these guys even made it sound as though it
was test kits. NBC did so they could that would would normalize
what it would make it more sense. It would normalize what
Harris said, Good point by by soft pedaling, what it really
was good. This is the kind of NBC is going off the deep end. I
blame Comcast. I blame does Brian L Roberts guy? The guy was
the CEO. Somebody should call him out. Okay, well,
Adam Curry: might as well be you, because no one else is
listening. Call him out. This is another problem we can't do more
than four more years. It's not going to be any media left to
deconstruct. We'll just be talking about podcasts.
John C Dvorak: That's the way it's headed. Yeah, I. All
Adam Curry: right, before we take a break, there was one
interesting piece of news about Tina Peters Tina Peters day is
her name. She was the she was overseeing the election in Mesa,
Arizona, and she took issue with the voting machines. Now, when
you hear this story, what she what she really got convicted
for, is for allowing an unauthorized person to take a
look at the machines. And there's a whole bunch of other
stuff. There was screenshots where everybody could see it was
near the password was one, password, 123, and stuff like
that, which is important information for people, but they
threw the book at her. Elections
Unknown: have consequences, and so does breaking the law in
search of election rigging. Tina Peters sentenced today to nine
years in her election tampering case. Colorado's best known
election denier, the former Mesa County Clerk, was defiant till
the end, arguing with the judge at sentencing and bringing in a
parade of fellow election conspiracy theorists to defend
her. Our Mark Salinger was in court in Grand Junction where
Peters laughed at prosecutors, lectured the judge, then was led
away in handcuffs. Tina Peters is a hero to the people who
believe her lies, but inside this courthouse, those same lies
made her a felon. You are a charlatan, and you cannot help
but lie as easy it is for you to breathe, a reckoning happened
today in judge Matthew Barrett's courtroom. For nearly 30
minutes, speaking directly to Peters, he made it clear that
words have consequences and lies lead to prison sentences. Prison
is for those folks, where we send people who are a danger to
all of us, whether it by be by the pen or the sword or the word
of the mouth, prison is where folks go, where punishment is
what we're focused on, because the crime committed is so
significant that anything less would unduly mitigate the
seriousness of the same Peters granted conspiracy theorists
illegal access to voting systems in our county as she searched
for proof of voter fraud, even to this day, after finding no
proof of fraud, she maintains the election was stolen from
Donald Trump, and told the court She did nothing wrong. So
Adam Curry: okay, so you threw the book at her, because she
after the election. By the way, after all the election was said
and done, she lets in computer experts, now known as conspiracy
theorists, to take a look at these machines, and then in the
courtroom, the judge is making it sound like, Oh, if you're a
danger, if you say things that aren't true. He was really
making a big deal out of all, you lie, you lie. So we're
throwing you in jail for nine years. This, this is something
that actually kind of worries me. Yes,
John C Dvorak: this is worrisome. Yes, it's very
worrisome. She was sincere? Yeah, yeah, it wasn't that she
was and what did she lie about? What?
Adam Curry: Well, because there was supposedly no proof,
whatever. Therefore she lied. Therefore throw her in jail. But
there. But the real charge is that she allowed unauthorized
access to these voting machines. Yeah, after the fact, hey, I
know, I know these are
John C Dvorak: these. Something's up with Arizona.
Yes, they stay away. Wasn't really about her. This was about
anyone else who thinks they're gonna
Adam Curry: poke around. Yeah, don't do anything with with
those
John C Dvorak: you're gonna poke around our area. Forget it.
Arizona's notorious for this sort of thing, yeah, on both
sides of the of the political spectrum. And
Adam Curry: with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the covid
testing machine sent to Putin Hey. Say hello to my friend on
the other end, the one only, Mr. Jones in the
John C Dvorak: morning, to you, Mr. McCurry, in the morning
should see boots and graffiti the air subs in the water dais
out there. Hello.
Adam Curry: 1991 today in the troll room.
John C Dvorak: It's good. The average should be 1800 Okay, so
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Adam Curry: Well, if California broke off, I'd be calling for
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John C Dvorak: I get Starlink,
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Generator, from our artists. Thank you very much, Dr Scott
for doing that, and that's part of the value for value model. We
have producers all around the world. Brian of London sent me
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bitching and moaning how he can't even get one jingle, even
a sound effect. That can't even get a sound effect from this
company,
John C Dvorak: and LBC won't provide him with that stuff.
Well, he
Adam Curry: says it takes 11 weeks. It's got to be, you know,
got to go through community, legal,
Unknown: legal, it's got to go through legal. Always go through
legal. And
Adam Curry: meanwhile, if I said, Hey, give me a sound
effect of X, Y or Z, it would be sent to me within five minutes.
I'd have it
John C Dvorak: at habit. One, you're kidding. You get a dozen
even,
Adam Curry: yes, exactly, exactly. And that's because
everyone is a producer of this show. No one's just a casual,
haphazard listener. Know you're a producer, and is your
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you're an expert in, you have to let us know about it, like the
weather modification guy. I mean, that's it's amazing that
we have these people in our in our listening audience, and we
also have people in the national it's
John C Dvorak: actually kind of stunning. Well, it's a big
Adam Curry: club, and you're in. If I
John C Dvorak: get to my science clips, there's a there's a
couple of things in there where I'm gonna actually request, oh,
good, some clarification from people that are experts. Good.
We'll do
Adam Curry: it right after, right after we're done, thanking
our our value for value supporters. It's time, talent
and treasure. And we start with the artwork that we chose for
episode 1701, we titled that dork Maga. I was on one hand,
shocked on the other hand, kind of mortified that I heard Kara
Swisher calling Elon Musk. Dork Maga. Did we? Did she hear that
from us? Or did we somehow just catch on to some kind. I
John C Dvorak: think we're in the same way. Oh no, we, we were
on the same wavelength as Kara. That's
Adam Curry: not good. That's kind of disappointing. But when
John C Dvorak: he said, when he said, dark, mega, the first
thing, I thought it was Darth Magna, because I thought was
funnier, Maga, and then dork use I think you said dork.
Adam Curry: I said, dork Maga, yeah, dork Meg, I
John C Dvorak: wrote it down immediately. And so you and Kara
are on the same wave.
Adam Curry: This is bad thing. This
John C Dvorak: is bad. That's why you listen to her. I must
repent you actually have a crush on her.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, that's it. Uh huh, yeah, that would be it.
Right on. This was art which had a DNA strand. It was it was
okay. We were happy with it. We felt the choices weren't all
that. It was
John C Dvorak: a fallback piece. Let's
Adam Curry: be honest. Tan Staffel tonstaffel, who I don't
know if this is, is this someone's nickname or I don't
know who is it? That's not tanta Neal, it's Tom Stoffel. I
John C Dvorak: don't let somebody new. It's not that. No,
no, it's not new.
Adam Curry: I think they've been around. Well, no, not
John C Dvorak: long. First art was submitted for episode 61
you're
Adam Curry: right, you're right, but he's done
John C Dvorak: good work, he
Adam Curry: or she, he or she, yes, a
John C Dvorak: lot of good. Evergreen pieces, yeah, and it
must be a she, because if you look at the logo of the tons, so
it's a girls, okay, well, then she was for four months. She
Adam Curry: must be a Dutch Master.
John C Dvorak: I we
Adam Curry: uncovered a new Dutch master. Now we didn't make
it easy for everybody, because we said, hey, you can't do any
Star Trek stuff. And I think a lot of people had Star Trek
stuff in mind, because it was episode 1701, starship 1701 USS,
Starship Enterprise. And I think they got bummed out, and a
couple still did it. Of course. I think no one had ideas. You
kind of liked the dog TV from Dame Kenny Ben.
John C Dvorak: I did like it, but it was simplistic looking.
Because if the dogs are more dimensional, I think It'd have
been better and you would have liked it. You hated it. But
okay,
Adam Curry: yeah, there you go. I hated it. So, yeah, so we
didn't really have such a great selection. Nose, little ham
radio, by the way, I just like to mention so many people I
don't know about you. Are they probably not emailing you
because they can't spell your last name, but they've been
emailing me, hey, what radio should I get? About a ham radio?
I
John C Dvorak: got a couple of those, but not too many. And
Adam Curry: I would just like to suggest that everybody we've
been doing this for over a decade. I think,
John C Dvorak: I think you're but wait, but your best line is,
wait, get a license. Yes, radio, yeah,
Adam Curry: that's about what I'm what I'm about to say, get a
license, not just because you need to be licensed. And
actually, in an emergency, anybody can use these things.
You know, the license deal is not a big deal, but you go to
arrl.org, you find out where they're testing. They do it once
a month. Just to reiterate, all the questions for the test are
published with the answers they won't ask you all the questions,
but all the questions they ask you will have the exact same
answers, multiple choice, just in a different order, so you can
memorize but you need, you actually need to to do this to
figure out how this stuff works. Because, you know, repeater
offsets and little things, just little tips and tricks you need
to know in order to function properly. Certainly on these two
meter or 70 centimeter ham ham bands, you need to hook up with
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Breaker, breaker, good buddy, Is this thing on? Because it takes,
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Unknown: Oh, my formula is this.
We go out. We hit people in the mouth, shut up.
Slay All
Adam Curry: right, you had something you wanted to play.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I want to do these clips. This is a an
example. These are a total of six clips. Oh, and it's they're
different, though they're not just like one topic called Divi
depth. This is about the kind of dingbats that you have doing
reporting nowadays, and this is specific to NPR. Oh, well,
Adam Curry: like we haven't been paying attention to them today.
We've been giving them a lot of errors.
John C Dvorak: It's, yes, it's like NPR kind of a focus to
let's focus on crap. Be reporting. Let's start with this
one. This is the first this dingbat report NPR on the this
is about the Honda. Honda's had a big recall. And then we get to
listen to, I don't know, this girl sounds like she's in the
11th grade, maybe telling us all about the problem with the
steering mechanism on a Honda car.
Unknown: Honda is recalling more than 1.7 million vehicles
because of a defect in the steering mechanism. Federal
regulators say the issue could increase the risk for crash and
Paris Camila domino ski has details. The recall
includes the Acura Integra Honda CRV and the Civic family all
from model year 2022, or newer, Honda thinks about 1% of
recalled cars actually have the faulty part. It's a badly
manufactured worm wheel, the part where the rotation from
turning the steering wheel turns into turning a gear to turn the
wheels. Turns out that these defective worm wheels can swell.
There's also a spring that's wound too tight, add it up, and
you might get an abnormal noise and a sticky feeling when you
turn the steering wheel.
Adam Curry: Wow, how condescending is that.
John C Dvorak: So why do we even have a reporter reporting on
something that you can just read? The newsreader could have
read that, but they do this a lot. I was looking at. In fact,
I went and looked it up on the NPR personnel. They have
hundreds and hundreds of people working there that just for this
purpose alone. That brings me to the second group of clips. This
is the Sandia. It's about Sandia Labs, which she pronounces
Sandia.
Adam Curry: I don't know why. What is Sandy sand Sandia Labs
is
John C Dvorak: down in the Albuquerque area, and it's a
should again. She might maybe send Diaz the way it's
pronounced now, but this is a, this is one of those examples
we've talked about it before in the show where you have a
situation where you use the term spokesperson instead of
representative, because you want to make it clear that you're
using non, you know, language a certain way. I believe NPR uses,
uh, brings on presenters that are dei hires
Adam Curry: for their score, their ESG score, for
John C Dvorak: their score and and for bragging rights. And
they do it by they you could bring in somebody who's who can
do presentation well, and they'd be a dei hire, but if you're
listening on the right, you wouldn't notice it. So that's no
good. So let's bring on a woman that's got so much she's just a
lousy presenter. Can't she screeches when she talks. She's
got see. I don't know if she's black or Mexican or I don't. I
can't tell, but she's got a ghetto sound to her that that
tells the listener, hey, I'm a dei hire. Get over it, and here
we go. Do you
Unknown: worry that an asteroid will slam into Earth and in all
life on this planet, perhaps scenes from movies like
Armageddon keep you up at night. We may have something to make
your sleep a little better. Scientists may have discovered a
way to knock an incoming asteroid off course. And for
anyone who ever wondered, why don't we just throw a bunch of
nuclear missiles at it? Well, you're kind of
right. So it's a little bit different concept, but we think
it may even be more effective.
Nathan Moore led a team of physicists at the Sandia
National Laboratories in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Adam Curry: All right, here's how the meeting went. Hey guys,
I think we really we've had some issues with with a younger
audience listening to NPR. We need to hip it up a little bit.
I want some sound effects. I want, you know, a young, young
voices, multicultural voices, and let's just be a little bit
looser with the scripts. Yeah, that'll do it.
John C Dvorak: Do you that would be the meeting? Sorry. Well, I'm
sorry that would be the meeting now. I now the problem is
reporting here is, which brings me to the last couple of clips
coming up. Didn't
Adam Curry: we always do this? By the way, do we already?
Didn't already throw, like, crash something into a asteroid?
Well,
John C Dvorak: yeah, but that was the landed to steal
something from it, I meant this difference. And the thing is, is
that they're going to tell us something that it makes no sense
and it's never explained. And this is what, what the galling
part is, besides her voice, here we go.
Unknown: The Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, New
Mexico, they have discovered you just need to set off a nuclear
explosion near an asteroid, and the burst of X rays will send it
safely off target. The idea has been around for decades, but the
only way to test it is with the nuclear weapon, and
those are difficult to come by, so we invented a laboratory
experiment where we could test this idea. Him to generate an
incredibly strong burst of X rays in the laboratory. His team
used magnetic fields to produce these X rays and recorded their
effects on two mock asteroids roughly the size of tic tacs.
Not only does it work, but it works better than we thought,
and
on any size asteroid. But Nathan Moore cautions that all
asteroids are not alike. Asteroids
come in many different flavors. They're made of many different
types of rocks. We've only done a test on one type of mineral,
so it will be important to test this idea on different minerals
in our laboratory experiments to develop a full understanding of
how we would deal with every type of asteroid,
but it's good to know we humans have options that those
dinosaurs didn't when it comes to asteroids or when they come
to us.
It's certainly reassuring to know that if we are surprised by
either a large asteroid or one that shows up with very little
warning, if it needs a hard shove, we have a way to deal
with it. Bruce Willis,
thank you for your service. Oh,
Adam Curry: my goodness, I'm surprised he didn't say Axelrod.
John C Dvorak: The worst part about this report is not even
her. It's how do X rays, which have, no matter push anything I
would. I'm sure that maybe it does. They do, but I don't know
how it does. I mean, when I have an x ray, I'm not thrown back
against the table. It's like so there's no explanation for how
this X ray also
Adam Curry: rude. Bruce Willis is, is a vegetable. It's rude.
Is, and
John C Dvorak: then the Bruce Willis reference is like with
Bon
Adam Curry: Jovi music,
John C Dvorak: that's rude.
Adam Curry: I agree. This is peace NPR, right here. It's
over. That's it's enjoy. Finally,
John C Dvorak: it exemplifies the crap that they produce. And
it's also not explanatory. It used to be educational. You
should learn something, you learn nothing. So here we go to
this second group. Now this is all the same. This is about more
science led pipes. And I want to this is about this has got so
much lack of information. There's no real reporting. It's
just as let's get rid of lead pipes. They they never explain
as we go along, I'll try to throw in what might be going on
because I have, because I would like it Wait,
Adam Curry: didn't you? Used to be a lead pipe inspector, no.
John C Dvorak: Oh, okay, and so I would say that there is lead
pipes inch. There's just information in here that is not
explained.
Unknown: Let's go. There are some 9 million homes across the
US getting water through lead
pipes, and now the Environmental Protection Agency says those
pipes need to come out. The science
has been clear for decades. There is no safe level of lead
in our drinking water.
That's EPA Administrator Michael Regan.
He says lead
is harmful, especially to children. And VRS
ping Huang has been following the story, and she joins us now,
hi, ping. Okay, so I gotta admit, I was kind of surprised
this wasn't already a rule. What is the Epta saying about it?
Yeah, you would think, right. I mean, it's definitely something
that water advocates have been fighting for for many, many
years now. And the main thing about this rule is that, for the
first time on the federal level, it requires most water systems
to replace all their lead pipes within 10 years. Now, Leila,
this is a problem with a long history, but it got a lot of
attention 10 years ago with the Flint water crisis in Michigan.
And there, there was a change in the water chemistry that caused
old pipes to leach high amounts of lead into the drinking water.
And since then, some cities and states have actually already
been swapping out those lead pipes for copper. Okay.
John C Dvorak: What did she say at the end
Adam Curry: happen. I don't know what she said, and they're just
filling air time
John C Dvorak: to play the little end part again and tell
me what she said, word by word. Crisis in
Unknown: Michigan. And there, there was a change in the water
chemistry. There, there
Adam Curry: was a change in the water chemistry. Wait, wait,
wait, I'm listening to
Unknown: each high amounts of lead into the drinking water.
That's the tiny legs into the drinking water. Some cities and
states have actually already been swapping out those lead
pipes for copper. Okay,
Adam Curry: that last bit I could not decode. Let me listen
again. And
Unknown: some cities and states have actually already been
swapping out those lead pipes for copper.
Adam Curry: Well, some states have been a lot the selected
lapping hopper.
John C Dvorak: I could I listen to this 10 times that I couldn't
figure out what she said, the
Adam Curry: leech and lop and slopping hopper. Let me just
slapping swapping out the swapping out the lead for
copper. How about that?
Unknown: And since then, some cities and states have actually
already been swapping out those lead pipes. Hopper, they've been
Adam Curry: slopping out the slopping out the headphones for
copper. She said, Hopper, yeah, how can we? We don't get gigs
like this. This is a great gig. I wanted to slop and Hopper,
okay,
John C Dvorak: so let's right away. We introduced it turns
out, besides that last bit, which is, I had to stop it
there, because it's like, what did, I still don't know what she
said, lappa, Hopper, slop and hopper. So we got, let
everybody's got lead pipes show title, slop and Hopper, slop and
hopper. So everyone's got, there's lead pipes are
everywhere. But in Flint, Michigan, it caused a problem,
and everyone got poisoned, and they made a big fuss about it,
because of the water chemistry. Yeah. What water chemistry? What
water chemistry? What changed in Flint that all of a sudden
everyone got lead poisoning when there's lead pipes. It turns out
the whole country is filled with them,
Adam Curry: slop and hopper. So
John C Dvorak: what? What do? We didn't distant. Tell me
anything. All I know is, if there's lead pipes everywhere,
and they've been here forever and and I also know that
elemental lead, elemental lead, is not toxic. Even lick lead,
it's not going to do anything. It's the lead salts.
Adam Curry: Ah, are you getting all that? Are talks getting all
chemistry on me now,
John C Dvorak: but they never talk about any of that. Let's go
with clip to a word they where they still tell us nothing,
Unknown: right? It was clear, even back then that it wasn't
just a problem in Flint. Are there parts of the country that
are more likely to rely on lead pipes?
Yeah, places with homes that were built before 1986 that's
the year that Congress banned lead pipes, but the ones that
were already in the ground were allowed to stay there until now.
So there are lead pipes in every state, but some have more than
others. Those include Illinois, Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, New
York and New Jersey. All of those states have over half a
million lead pipes. Wow. So
that's a lot of pipes. They're gonna have to replace all those
in 10 years.
Wow. Yeah, it is a lot of pipes, and for the most part, they will
have to but there are some interesting exceptions. So
Chicago, for instance, has the most lead pipes out of any city,
around 400,000 in Chicago alone, and that's because they actually
required lead pipes there until they were banned. So when this
rule was first proposed, Chicago got a pretty big exemption,
something like 40 to 50 years to replace all their pipes because
they just had too many of them. And a lot of advocates pushed
back on that. They said it's way too long. That's generations
more people growing up with lead pipes. So in the final rule, the
EPA has tightened that up now, instead of 40 years, they have
more like 20 to 25
Adam Curry: Okay, so a couple things I learned here. One, no
wonder Chicago is retarded is because they're all drinking
lead. And the other thing I got from net Ned, he says Detroit
water was used until Detroit kicked them off for not paying
their bill, and Flint switched to a mothballed water treatment
plant from the Flint River that was really polluted, just as an
aside, and we do better than NPR.
John C Dvorak: Well, another thing the question that comes to
mind when I heard that clip was, why did Chicago demand the lead
pipes in the first place
Adam Curry: so that the Democrats could keep winning
elections.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's an interesting theory, but it's
like that. Why don't they tell us anything? They there's, this
is a fact free Science Report. They're, they're telling us
nothing, no. And, for example, what is going on that causes the
let and even with the Flint, Michigan thing. I still don't
know what the chemistry is. Now I have some ideas. It's possible
that, for example, you can get lead chloride. If you chlorinate
the water and run it through lead pipes, you might get some,
some, some, some lead chloride through to the drinking water. I
mean, that's one possibility. If you look do any research at all,
and they don't talk about this. If you have hard water, it coats
the inside of the lead pipe. So the likelihood of toxic toxicity
is zero because there's a coating. You know, anyone who
has hard water knows what the problem is. It just calcium and
manganese just coat everything. And so it makes the pipe
smaller, but it protects it, and that's not discussed. And then
the sleeving thing, which is what most people do in these
some of these areas, you run plastic sleeves through the
copper pipe, and then you just run the water through that, and
that solves the problem immediately. And then there's
also solder joints they don't talk about, which would leeches
through even when copper
Adam Curry: pipe. How come I didn't call you for this Science
Report. Could
John C Dvorak: have called anybody
Unknown: Shut up already.
Adam Curry: Science, yeah, science, be quiet.
John C Dvorak: So they continue with the non factual reporting
with the next clip. In touch
Unknown: with Brenda Santoyo, and she's a water justice
advocate in Chicago, water
Adam Curry: justice advocate. Nah.
John C Dvorak: Wow. Hey, water justice, that
Adam Curry: should be our next promotion. We can give out water
justice advocate diplomas.
Unknown: Okay,
Adam Curry: yeah, what? I have a, W, J, a in Detroit. It's
Unknown: definitely progress. I think that, like the city, the
state, should take, like their own measures to
try to speed up that process as
much as it can.
We also don't want our water systems to be set up for
failure, for them to take shortcuts.
Yeah. She says that the timeline seems reasonable, so long as
families are able to protect themselves in the meantime.
Yeah. I
mean, even 10 more years seems like a long time to be drinking
water that might have lead in it. So what can families do to
protect themselves? Yeah, well, step one
is figuring out whether they have a lead service line. The
service line is the pipe that brings tap water into your
house, and that would be the most likely culprit. If you can
see that line, you can scratch it with a coin. Try a magnet on
it. There's some guidance online that can help you figure out if
it's made of lead, copper or coated steel. And in case you're
wondering if it's easy to scratch and a magnet does not
stick to it, those are some of the signs that it could be lead.
They can also test their water for lead. There are some water
districts out there that offer free water testing so they can
check for that. And here's the thing, even if there is lead in
the water, common home filters can take them out. So pitcher
filters, faucet filters that are certified to remove lead. All
these are really great solutions, until the lead pipes
themselves get eliminated. I am
Adam Curry: very close to banning NPR science reports on
this show. I'm very, very, very close to it. This is bad. This
is very bad.
John C Dvorak: You have to remember that NPR our national
treasure, and all these, these public radio station began as
educational stations where the where you should learn
something, you learn nothing from these people. There's no
explanation for anything. It's just blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah. Lead is bad.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that we could have summed up that whole report
with what you just said there. Blah blah blah. Lead is bad,
blah blah blah, all right, thank you for this science moment.
You're welcome. I would like to move to Israel and Iran and
what's happening. I have a couple of clips, and I have some
analysis that I would like to share with the group. We start
first with Biden and Netanyahu. Finally speaking,
Unknown: President Biden today spoke with Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The White House called their
conversation direct and productive. However, one of the
big questions that remains is, how will Israel respond to the
Iranian missile attack, and when Israel's defense minister warns
it will be precise and deadly? Amish news reporter Josh einer
is live in Tel Aviv tonight with the story
well as precise and deadly, he said, But he added, and above
all, surprising they meaning the Iranians, he added, will not
understand what happened and how. But as you point out, the
big question is when and if the Israelis have decided that they
aren't saying tonight, one year after President Biden came to
Israel and wrapped Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and
a bear hug, the two leaders have seen their relationship sour.
Netanyahu prosecution of the war in Gaza and now Lebanon, but
eight days after nearly 200 Iranian missiles filled the
Israeli skies, Netanyahu and Biden today spoke on the phone
to discuss Israel's plans to retaliate.
The US and the Israeli government have been discussing.
Have had discussion since last week
after,
certainly since after the Iran attack, and so that those
discussions continued with the President and the Prime
Minister, the
White House has been trying to convince Netanyahu to choose
conventional military targets, and not Iran's oil industry or
nuclear program. And it all comes at the holiest time of the
year in this holy land. Will they try to do something before
the end of the week? Because at the end of the week is the
holiest day on the Jewish calendar, Yom Kippur, the Day of
Atonement. And at this time, there is so much uncertainty
about what's to come. Now
Adam Curry: I ask you, in the world of cyclical happenings,
wouldn't a second Yom Kippur war be perfect? Oh, just in the just
in the cyclical nature of things, and I'll come back,
John C Dvorak: interesting idea. Just even think
Adam Curry: of that. Just a thought. Now we go to NPR, and
let's just get a little update, short one from from NPR. There's
Unknown: a lot of speculation over whether Israel will respond
and what would be its targets.
Iranian foreign minister Abbas energy, in this video by AP
news, warned Israel not to test his country's resolve by
launching an attack, saying Iran. His response would be more
powerful than last week's ballistic missile attack. That
was in response to Israel's killing of top Hezbollah and
Hamas leaders. Ergy said Tehran stands fully behind its so
called Axis of Resistance, which includes Hezbollah and Hamas,
and that he would soon be traveling to Saudi Arabia and
other regional countries to discuss Israel's offensives in
Gaza and Lebanon. There's intense debate here in Israel
about the scale and target of a potential attack on Iran. Many
experts believe it could be against its energy sector.
Adam Curry: Okay, so bear that in mind, and he's also going to
be roaming around talking to people now we go to our retired
generals, and the first one coming right out of retirement,
known for his seven count, the famous Wes Clark seven is, in
fact, General Wesley Clark, and he's going to lay it all out for
us.
Unknown: Do you believe Bibi Netanyahu will pull the trigger
on Iran?
I certainly do, and I believe he should all the tragedy and
Hamas, all that's going on with Hezbollah is traceable to the
source, and that's Iran. And so this is the moment, and this is
the situation in which Israel has to strike and strike hard at
Iran.
Adam Curry: Guys. Hey, it's number seven on the list. We got
this the final one. We got to complete my West Clark seven.
What
Unknown: do you make of the move by Emmanuel Macron to withhold
weapons.
Well, I think he's responding probably to domestic pressure in
France, but it's a certainly misguided effort. If he wants to
make a difference, he should endeavor to have religious
leaders in France call together common a bring common aid in
Jerusalem, have the pope there tell common aid to renounce his
claims, his efforts to destroy Israel and kill all its people.
Adam Curry: I love. I love this. First of all, I like they. Says
common a, common a, instead of Khomeini, he says common A. So
his idea is, get the Pope, bring the pope over, have common A and
the Pope, we got to do a photo op, common A, and we'll all
shake hands like a big Camp David though in Israel, and
Khamenei and the Pope. And what it'll be good if you
Unknown: go to the source, that's the way you deal with
this. And Iran is the source, and Khamenei is the key person.
One
more question for you. There have been some who say that if
Israel were to strike, particularly Iran's oil, that
this would spark world war three. Give us your perspective,
considering all the years you have as an experienced commander
Adam Curry: in ruining other countries in NATO,
Unknown: well, I don't think their strike on their oil is
going to spark world war three. I don't think World War Three is
in the offing right now, but I do say this Iran is on the verge
of having nuclear weapons. Maybe it has them. Now. It has those.
Everything's different. This regime in the in Iran, it has to
go now. I can change its tune. If it says okay to live with its
neighbors, fine if it continues to insist that its whole effort
is directed at the destruction of a neighboring state in the
21st century, that's not permitted. No. So this is a
moment for Israel to assert itself, to strike back and to
gain dominance in the region over Iran. So
Adam Curry: that sounds to me like regime change is what he's
saying here. We just have to change those guys. Everything
else is fine. It's not going to start world war three. No
proving once again, we have the best producers in the universe.
One of our producers was at an investor dinner. And I This must
have been pretty high end, because they brought in as a
dinner speaker, General Milley. And our producer gave me a big
Mike, Big Mike, General Mike,
John C Dvorak: the other big Mike, the
Adam Curry: other big Mike, gave me a little rundown of what he
said. Took notes, and I think it's it's worth sharing. History
is cyclical. He said, The Treaty of Westphalia in 1648 ended the
30 Years War and set the West up for 100 years of peace between
large powers broken by the Seven Years War, the French and Indian
War around 1750 then the constant state of war, until
Congress of Vienna established the Concert of Europe in 18,
5015 then there was peace amongst large powers for 100
years, until World War One, from Fort to 1914 to 1945 with World
War Two, we are now 80 years into the current peace
established by rules based under imposed rules based order
imposed after World War Two. The next 20 years will be very
interesting. China, Russia and Iran have every incentive to
overthrow the rules based order that's governed the world since
the Americans came up with it in new in a New Hampshire hotel in
19. 44 he says that was Bretton Woods, China building the
military with an eye on seizing Taiwan. Xi says he wants to take
it by 2027 which would be the 100 year anniversary of the
People's Liberation Army. He says, maybe, but China lacks
experience and may underestimate the difficulty of it important
that they continue to wonder if the US would intervene. Ah,
that's so we need to keep rattling the sabers. Gaza,
Israel is responding to this horrific attack. Imagine what we
do. They've been fairly successful with their strategic
goal of destroying Hamas about two thirds of the way there.
They haven't gotten all of their leadership yet, but it's coming
soon. Their challenge going forward is that they lack a
political message. All war is politics administered through
organized violence. That's a good statement.
John C Dvorak: I like that one.
Adam Curry: All wars politics administered through organized
violence, need an alternative path to sell it to the
Palestinians continued collateral damage, civilian
deaths makes it harder. It may require an Arab peace
enforcement troops, maybe from Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia.
Notice, we have Netanyahu going on a little tour Iran. Israel
will hit Iran, but they'll probably wait until after the
High Holy Days conclude next week, probably a mix of
military, economic and symbolic targets. He said, Maybe I'm
wrong. They might go downtown either way. Going downtown
either way, it will be a strong message of, don't do that again,
but stopping short of delivering a devastating hit, neither
Israel nor Iran won a full direct war. But sometimes wars
happen even when they aren't wanted. Would the US get
involved? Well, the country is a third bigger than Iraq, with
bigger military, we could deal with it, but at a significant
cost, so unlikely. Nuclear now, they are only days or weeks away
from having enough uranium goo. However, Millie says it will
still take quite a period of time to package that into a
missile. So there's something, there's something different from
from Wesley Clark,
John C Dvorak: it's always a couple weeks away. Well,
Adam Curry: that's just for the goo. It'll take much longer to
package it into a missile? Yeah, they
John C Dvorak: keep changing the target supremely. I'm I'm going
with our thesis that this whole thing is a sham. I'm and the
fact that they've been talking about the nuke, the nuke being a
week away, a week away, a couple weeks away, four years, next
month, for a decade, years, decade. Is it possible that at
some point years ago they figured out they can't do this?
Maybe none of it works, and maybe none of it works. And so
they're going to say, well, let's, let's change our
policies, but we have to do this slowly. So let's get rid of
this, these terrorist groups, somehow we have to go in cahoots
with other people to do this, because we can't do it, because
it would make us look bad. We want to stay in power. And so
the whole, it's a whole thing is, is is a, is a, is a sham.
The common needs, because there's no evidence of the
contrary. And even if Israel sends a couple of missiles over
there gonna hit anything, no. And the 200 missiles that were
sent toward Israel, they didn't hit anything. They killed some
one of them, but the poor guy got hit by a fragment I sent you
that video. After the most disgusting thing, you wonder
whether it's real car two that's what I wonder about it. How does
Adam Curry: that even happen? How does that even happen?
Anyway, he goes on to about the future of warfare, which I think
is the final interesting point, the nature of war doesn't change
through history, but character of war does, tactics and
technology. Example, gun range increased from 70 yards to 400
yards between American Revolution and the Civil War.
Generals were slow to adapt to it, and it was a bloodbath in
World War Two, the Germans, Brits and French had had the
same new tank tech, radio comms and air support, but the Germans
came up with the best system, the panzer divisions, and
steamrolled Europe in 18 months, including a larger French army
looking ahead, 1/3 of the US military will be robots in 15
years, drone tanks, sailorless ships, more UAVs, etc. China and
Russia will try to do the same, armed robots, powered by here it
comes, AI and quantum computing will have you
John C Dvorak: said, quantum computing? Yes. Know what it is,
we'll
Adam Curry: have terrifying capabilities. This way goes off
the rails, yeah? So we don't need to invite General Milley
for our after dinner conversation.
John C Dvorak: He's like, he does have a historic he likes to
do his historic stuff, yeah, doing historic stuff. And.
Analyzing it is hindsight doing foresight. He's got nothing he
can't rope into the future robot AI and quantum computing. Now,
Adam Curry: chum, I tell you, if you really want to know what is
happening in the future of warfare, we must look to the
NATO. And the NATO, as you know, is now run by our former prime
minister from the Netherlands, Mark.
Unknown: It's crucial for Ukraine to prevail, and we have
to afford that. Putin has his way with and in Ukraine, because
there's not only a problem for Ukraine, there's also a threat
to all of us here in the UK,
Adam Curry: everybody, everybody is threatened, huh?
John C Dvorak: I bought your accent, yes, because I listened
to this. I think you, you've got It's fabulous. I wish I could do
it, but there's a couple of things you might want to do.
Okay? One, they go a lot more than you do. Yes, okay. And the
other thing is, he changes his Ruta, he changes his cadence, he
talks at a certain speed, then he speeds up, and then he slows
down, and that little element you have yet to Cat capture.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay, I will
John C Dvorak: just do it.
Adam Curry: Very good in the future of us,
Unknown: here in the UK, all over NATO, including Canada and
the US. If Russia would be successful in Ukraine, it would
be a security threat to all of us. So we have to massively,
massively learn how to speak Russian. Continue what we are
doing first, and that is to put military aid into Ukraine. Yes,
some aid to make sure that we have enough training ready for
the soldiers, the brave soldiers from Ukraine. And
Adam Curry: we must have some training ready for the soldiers,
brave soldiers, brave very brave soldiers.
Unknown: The brave people were working there to the dead
people. You mean counter the Russian Russian onslaught. At
the same time, we have to implement what we agreed in
Washington during the summit. But particularly, this is the
command we are now setting up in Germany.
Adam Curry: Oh, command, oh, Germany is going to take all the
hits. Great.
Unknown: Basically, coordinate all the activities. Oh yes,
NATO.
Adam Curry: Oh yes. Let Putin go get mad at the Germans allies
Unknown: and others to make sure that this aid gets into Ukraine.
And of course, the so called 40 billion euro plus so
Adam Curry: called that is not so called. It is heal, and we
stole it from the Russians,
Unknown: where we decided collectively to make sure that
the money is available long term. And this is, of course, at
least for the first year, but then also longer term, we have
to find that money. Yes, and we have to work on the bilateral
security agreements, as they are now being negotiated between
Ukraine and various allies. He's
Adam Curry: negotiating between Ukraine and various allies.
There's no letting up. We're going to continue, continue to
how about the long range weapons? But would
Unknown: you support Ukraine being given access to longer
range missiles to be able to fire those deeper into Russia?
Militarily, we've heard from former senior commanders in
Europe saying that Ukraine's allies need to be firmer that
dither and delay, as one of them put it, is not in Ukraine's
interest. So would you personally support the use by
Ukraine of longer range missiles to fire deeper into Russia?
Adam Curry: Well, let me say this about that.
Unknown: Let me be very specific. First of all, Ukraine
is allowed illegally to strike targets in Russia. When who
makes
Adam Curry: up these laws
Unknown: illegally? Leaders, what
John C Dvorak: Yes, is there some who edict? Was there some
is law passed?
Adam Curry: Is there some kind of war? Law is Geneva? First
Unknown: of all, Ukraine is allowed illegally, legally,
legally, talking about I mark
Adam Curry: Rita have said it is legal. You can go ahead
Unknown: illegally to strike targets in Russia when these
targets pose a threat to Ukraine. So legally, this is
possible. Legally
John C Dvorak: go to court over this. What are they talking
about? Yes, hello, Vladimir. Just send the police in.
Unknown: And my second element of my house will be that it is
not one weapon system which will change the outcome of this
conflict. No,
Adam Curry: we need many weapons spend the money. And
Unknown: then, of course, it is up to the individual allies to
decide when they deliver weapon systems into Ukraine, how they
can be used, what kinds of commitments they give in terms
of for Ukraine, where is he going to get specific like he
promised to use the systems? This is not up to the alliance
as a whole. This is up to the individual.
Adam Curry: All ally members. Okay, one last clip from
Margarita about Ukraine becoming a NATO member. We
Unknown: saw recently the Slovak prime minister saying that as
long as he's in power, he will block Ukrainian membership. What
are you going to do to try to build consensus on that? Well,
clearly, what
we decided in Washington unanimously is that there is an
irreversible path towards membership of NATO for Ukraine,
irreversible.
Adam Curry: And then, of course, yes, irreversible. Once they
start, they cannot go back. We keep them going on the track
Unknown: towards membership of NATO for Ukraine. And then, of
course, the question is, how to take this to the next the next
steps and the next stage, and it really has to be done step by
step. And that's something, of course, amongst allies we will
discuss over the coming month, including up to the Summit in
the Hague and beyond. Because this is a very sensitive issue.
It is an important issue, yes, but I said last week in Kyiv and
I visited Volodymyr Zelensky and his team. Yes,
Adam Curry: with his team, we had a nice team. I said, a drink
with his team. I visited Volodymyr Zelensky. Is
Unknown: that one thing has to be absolutely clear, one thing
that Russia does not have a vote on this, and that Russia does
not have a veto on this? No, that would not be legal. Every
country in the area of NATO can apply for membership, and that
is a sovereign decision for that inevitable country.
Adam Curry: What a sales guy, and he comes across so
confidently. I'm Margarita. I want to make it all happen. I'm
gonna get that Vladimir,
John C Dvorak: me and my boys, irreversible. It's not
Adam Curry: it's it's legal. Come on, man, pull the trigger.
It's legal. Do it? Do it. Volodymyr, if anyone's gonna
start world war three, it's that guy. Yes, that guy is no good,
and we know he's no good. The Dutch know he's no good. We know
it
John C Dvorak: well. He's no good, he's no good,
Adam Curry: he's no good. So this came in, which I have let
me see. I think I have a longer clip here. Let me play this a
longer clip. This is about Google, Google and the
Department of Justice. And this is interesting because I
received a document today that I think pertains to it.
Unknown: So it is getting harder and harder for markets to remain
complacent. Shares fell by more than 2% yesterday, and as we've
been mentioning, alphabet is the cheapest Magnificent Seven stock
by forward PE multiple. So yes, cases, they can take years, even
if we have a decision, because Google will appeal. But
injunctions, as we now see, can take down walled gardens and in
the meantime, create openings for competitors at Google's
bottom line, the judge in the epic case ordered an injunction
yesterday that breaks open Google's Android's App Store
monopoly. Now he ruled that for the next three years, Google
must allow developers to bring their own app stores to the
operating system. Now the aim is to reduce fees for developers,
which currently must fork over 15 to 30% of their user payments
made within that Google ecosystem, but by allowing them
to bypass it, bypass the walled garden Google's App Store
transactions, they will take a hit in 2019 the information
estimates that it made up 20% of alphabets operating income. So
that is a significant amount. Google says, for its own part,
that the verdict missed the obvious, that Apple and Android,
quote clearly compete and says it will appeal. But in the
meantime, this injunction could do some damage. Now, the epic
case that's resulting in an opening up, the potentially
bigger threat is a breaking up, and that is in the cards for the
DOJ case, which we are expecting remedies today, and it will
likely include a list of options, from forcing Google to
give wider access to search data, to restrictions on
exclusivity deals, to a breakup of its business units. That, of
course, would be the most extreme option.
Adam Curry: So this kind of just, I mean, yeah, the epic
case has been going on for a while, and the judge may have
some power to do some things, but Google's going to appeal
everything, and they'll just keep this going forever. But it
was in light. I played this clip in light of a document I got to
just today, actually, from the oil baron, from James Comer, the
Chairman of the Committee on Oversight and Accountability,
with a scathing letter to Linda Khan Khan, who is the FTC
Commissioner, and summarizing, he's saying, Hey, you are a
shill for the Democrats. If you're going out there, you're
doing all kinds of things. You know. But you're, you're
shilling for the Biden Harris or for the for the Harris team.
You're doing all kinds you're running political cover, you're
threatening all kinds of companies, and just reading
through this like, Huh? Do you think that this what's happening
now suddenly that this is a message to Google, like you
better. You better continue doing what we agreed you do with
searches and how things show up and what videos you surface or
don't surface on Google. On YouTube feels like there's feels
like there's a little bit of scam. Yes, yes. It's a scam. If
you're
John C Dvorak: going to go out this idea about the about the
Google Store, yeah, what about the Apple Store? Talk about your
walled garden?
Adam Curry: Well, Apple doesn't have a huge consumer search
business.
John C Dvorak: Search thing that that is different then, yeah.
And if the search is skewed, and they wanted to remain skewed,
and they've got guests, they're getting so much flack about it
that they're maybe they're, the skew is not as bad as it should
be. It's got to be more skewed. Yeah. I mean, this is the same
as the reports. I have a bunch of clips on this. The New York
Times do it. Did I get these clips? New York Times? Yeah,
yeah. This is kind of this talks about, unfortunately, this thing
went on for 15 minutes. I don't think I even got the gist of it
correctly, but it would. It was just, was too hard, yeah, but it
was about how the left is bitching about, and we noticed
this. Because you notice it. I noticed it. If you go to
Mastodon, they're all these lefties are on Mastodon,
bitching and moaning about the New York Times are not going
after Trump enough.
Adam Curry: Oh my god, you mean Jarvis and and Rose,
John C Dvorak: Jarvis and everybody. Every journalist
that's on Mastodon is going on and on about we should be more
proactive. Yes,
Adam Curry: you're not, you're not doing it right. New the
broken hashtag, broken New York Times,
John C Dvorak: yeah, and the people that are still on the
dead bird,
Adam Curry: hey, get with it, you old fogies podcast things
where it's at. And
John C Dvorak: so even play a couple of these clips to see if
you can get a All
Adam Curry: right, just where's this from? This New York Times
report. This
John C Dvorak: is a New York Times report that another NPR,
fine,
Adam Curry: really. Sorry. Okay, all right, here we go.
Unknown: Social media influencers are a big part of
this year's election. They Whoa. What happened to the podcasters?
Social media influencers are a big part of this year's
election, they translate the news for their followers, but
the news they spread has to come from somewhere, often a news
organization. So we're talking with a behind the scenes
influencer, Joe Kahn, executive editor of the New York Times,
in people's minds, there's very little neutral middle ground in
our mind. It is the ground that we are determined to occupy.
Joe Kahn is a Pulitzer Prize winning reporter who now runs
the times newsroom. We met him at the Times headquarters
building in Manhattan. There is, as you know very well, a long
standing conservative or republican critique of the New
York Times, but the special passion in criticism of the
times in this election cycle seems to me to be on the left.
You're nodding. Why do you think that is
it's a good question, and I struggle with it often, because
the left has really high expectations of the New York
Times. I think some of them honestly distorted.
John C Dvorak: I just thought that was such a giveaway. Yeah,
he's nodding. Yeah. I don't get it. I don't understand why the
lefty, because they're always been our biggest fans. Yeah, I
said we were, oh, that you said, Oh, I
Adam Curry: know it's like 15 to 13. Now, I know, I know it's
bad. I blame Tina.
John C Dvorak: It does help when you point it out. Yes. So let's
just part two of this. If you've
Unknown: heard about Project 2025, a conservative blueprint
for a future Republican administration, one reason may
be that the times covered it a lot last year. You
know that's something that you want to cover deeply, fully,
fairly, and provide people with some substance to analyze that.
I'm thinking of one particular story that we could pluck out of
the river of Times coverage. And I paraphrase here, but the story
used the word plan. Harris has a plan for housing. Trump has a
plan for housing, and Trump's plan is he's going to deport
illegal immigrants and make more room for everybody else. And I
thought to myself, That's not actually a plan, that's a
slogan, and I'm just trying to describe it accurately. Is that
an example where maybe you were trying a little too hard to be
fair to each side?
John C Dvorak: How is that being fair to each side? And this guy
never what is Harris's plan? If. It's never reported what his
what her plan is, and this guy was doing the reporting from NPR
is obviously a Trump hater, yeah, and it just comes through
with this discussion. And I think part three maybe bring a
little more light to it. Well,
Unknown: I think what we've tried to do with respect to
housing is housing's an absolutely major problem. And we
basically took it to both campaigns and said, What would
you do about this concretely? Not just talk about it
rhetorically, but what are your plans? And Harris and the Harris
campaign responded, and we looked at their proposals and
what they would do to move the needle on that subject, and we
asked the same thing of the Trump people, you're absolutely
right. Their response was, we will deport immigrants who are
occupying too much housing and free that housing up for
American citizens. And I think we frontally pointed out in that
piece that there's extremely little evidence that illegal
immigrants who would be deported are occupying a significant
chunk of housing, it would make any difference at all in the
affordable housing crisis. That
was one of Khan's defenses against the claim that his paper
is soft pedaling. Donald Trump,
John C Dvorak: what? How is that soft pedaling? Donald Trump,
they criticized his whole plan, never mentioning what Harris's
was, and this is somehow soft peddling
Adam Curry: here. Jeff Jarvis posts a link to a New York Times
opinion joy is working for Harris. But can it close the
deal? Jeff Jarvis's post sigh, the media trope that voters need
to learn more about Harris, well, then do your job and
inform them That's your job.
John C Dvorak: Wow, yeah, you probably just read those kinds
of posts on mastodon. They're not on Twitter, yeah, and I'll
find them keep us entertained for days.
Adam Curry: Hashtag. Brokenpost calls this, we are going to beat
the reporters into retardation, pugnacity, ridiculous peace. Why
might he lose women? He's a damn sexual predator. Say it is the
Trump campaign's male dominated culture losing women vote. Oh,
my God. And then he posts the Washington Post. What a pissy
jealous piece of shit. This is from the hashtag brokenpost. Oh
god. Jeff Jarvis, calm down. Take a CBD. It's grab a gum,
John C Dvorak: grab something. I mean, it's like, these are
posted. These
Adam Curry: are professionals.
John C Dvorak: It's journalism. They're not opinion. They don't
do it. If they were just opinion writers, and this is an opinion
that's fine, but that's not what they claim to be. The whole
Adam Curry: thing is falling apart. That's the point. The
whole mainstream media is falling apart. They can't stand
that people get their news from Twitter. They can't stand that
podcasts have millions of listeners, and people like call
her daddy and Rogan make hundreds of millions of dollars.
They're beside themselves with envy and anger, and they just
take it out on anything they can. It's all Trump's fault?
Well, of course, because he he told everybody the fake news is
the enemy of the people. And the people went, huh, that's an
interesting point.
John C Dvorak: What I the biggest kick I get out of this
when he talked about it initially, back in 2015 he said,
and he made a point, says, Well, you know? I said, Well, they're
saying the news was the enemy of the people. And they said, No. I
said, the fake news is the enemy of the people, right? It turns
out that the original assertion was true. It's the news. It's
not the it's all of them. They're the, literally, the
enemy of the people. Yes, they lie. And then you can see when
it starts to come out of guys who are supposedly journalists.
And suppose you know reporters and people are supposed to be
objective, they're not objective, and that those tweets
from Jarvis are a good example. That's not objectivity. Let's
give nothing but free coverage to Harris, because she's such a
genius. She is a moron. Jeff, she's an idiot. You can see it
in her eyes. You can see it in her responses. She's a stupid
human being, and that's beyond me that anyone does. Can't see
this. It's it's obvious to most people.
Unknown: Go podcasting. I was
John C Dvorak: wondering what you're gonna come up with.
Adam Curry: Do we need to play more of this? We need to
John C Dvorak: know the last thing is another, completely
different topic, and it's just not important. All right.
Adam Curry: Well, then let me, let me just play this one,
because you won't, you won't read this on x. It will be
suppressed. You heard it here
Unknown: for months. American billionaire Elon Musk has been
in the tug of war with the Brazilian courts, but he has
proven to be out. Muscled X will once again be available in
Brazil, as the Supreme Court on Tuesday, ordered the
reinstatement of the social network throughout the country.
X welcome the news. X
Adam Curry: is proud to return to Brazil. We will continue to
defend freedom of speech within the boundaries of the law
everywhere we operate.
Unknown: Supreme Court Judge Alexandra de Morice cited
insufficient safeguards against disinformation when blocking x
in August, a ruling that ex owner Elon Musk vowed to fight,
but instead he capitulated. In addition to paying a fine of
nearly 5 million euros, the social network has agreed to
appoint a new legal representative in the country
and delete accounts with links to the far right. One of the
reasons for Musk's change of heart pressure from investors.
With its 22 million users, Brazil is the largest economy in
Latin America and a major source of revenue for X, another of the
American billionaires, companies, Internet Service
Provider Starlink also suffered from excess suspension. Its bank
accounts and financial assets were temporarily frozen in order
to cover fines and post on x
Adam Curry: Oh, okay, I guess money does matter over free
speech
John C Dvorak: free Well, it would for you too. It would for
anybody's not dumb, no,
Adam Curry: but I'm not going out there saying, Man, I'm never
gonna do it. We gotta Screw you. Nugget, I preach speech. I mean,
What? What? Oh, what'd you say? Investor, what? Starling, okay,
John C Dvorak: whatever you say goes all right. Of course he
did. Of course he wasn't. It was a foregone conclusion he wasn't
going to put up with his assets being seized. And he knows these
South American countries, they love to nationalize stuff. Yes,
that's nationalized. Starling, yeah,
Adam Curry: I have one more story here, just a little
update, because, speaking of Elon, when is he going to take
over Boeing? Sticking
Unknown: with corporate news talks to end the month long
strike at Boeing have broken down and are not slated to
resume at this time, Boeing seemed especially frustrated
with the union representing roughly 33,000 striking
machinists, a Boeing executive told employees in a note. Quote,
unfortunately, the Union did not seriously consider our
proposals. As a result, Boeing has ripped up an offer it called
its quote best and final that would have boosted pay by 30%
the union, however, is not backing down. Union members are
holding out for a 40% raise as part of a long list of
grievances. Quote, they refuse to propose any wage increases,
vacation, sick leave, accrual, progression, ratification bonus,
or the 401 K match. The Union told Reuters, adding both, they
also would not reinstate the defined benefit pension. The
strike has pushed Boeing deeper into the red. It's estimated to
lose $1 billion a month, according to s&p Global ratings,
on top of the $60 billion debt it is already carrying. With
production shut down, Boeing is being forced to furlough
workers. It is also exploring money raising efforts to remain
afloat while the picket line proves to be an impenetrable
force.
Adam Curry: This is bad. They have effectively, negotiations
are just done. They I was their last and final offer. If you
remember, this is bad? Yeah, it's bad for workers. It's bad
for our aero Defense, Space industry, yeah, yeah, so, but I
don't know how we're gonna make all those
John C Dvorak: flying unlucky jets again and
Adam Curry: and these, uh, boa and this is not really
discussed. Is this only the aircraft division, or is this
all of Boeing? Does this include the the bomb guys and the F 35
guy? What'd be everybody? Yeah. I mean, how are we gonna get
John C Dvorak: to a billion a month that affects all the
divisions, how
Adam Curry: are we going to get Margarita all of his his
weapons?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, there, there you go. That's the
main concern.
Adam Curry: Yes, I think Elon should expand his military
contracting empire.
John C Dvorak: I think he launched to take over bowling.
Yeah, he
Adam Curry: can pretend he invented that it's no problem.
Unknown: Oh, I'm gonna show
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Oh, yeah, that'd be fun. We
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John C Dvorak: I'm not drink that was just me doing nothing.
You just I want to mention, as you go on and on, that we did
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Adam Curry: I wonder why. I wonder why. Hey, you can you
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Adam Curry: right above. I don't know. I don't have anything
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Adam Curry: I don't think so. I don't know for sure. I don't
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We have one report today. It's a very mini report. You'll recall
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and half of his side is one. Half his body is paralyzed. And
so the folks over there in the Netherlands decided to do a
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Unknown: This is Frank aka Mike, meetup report, sixth of October,
from Luz bake.
Hi in the morning, Dame Pam, in the morning. So Andre night with
a broken brain, and I've got two visitors in my hospital room
here, Frank aka Mike, and dame. Pam, I'm so happy with all the
visitors that are coming from the NA group in the morning.
Thank you for your courage
in
Adam Curry: the morning. I love that. There you go. Connection
is protection. That's what those no agenda meetups are about. You
meet people who will even visit you in the hospital when your
brain is broken. I'm telling you, you need to go to one of
these. And you could actually go to the northern wake, publical
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with just that little, oh, boy, I love that show.
John C Dvorak: I'll be at the Emeryville meetup. Oh, you will
Adam Curry: nice. Is that another get John out of the
house meet up where you just Yes,
John C Dvorak: it is, and it's, but it's gonna be at the trader
vix in Emeryville, and you have the date there, and it is, see
Adam Curry: on November 2.
John C Dvorak: This is November 2. That's what it says. Yeah,
that will Are you available? Are you available? That's family
friendly, so people can go there with your kids, with the kids,
so we can get to see violet again. Oh, specifically, okay.
Oh, nice. Um, let me see. Yeah, I got ISO. What do you got? How
many I
Adam Curry: got four. I'll play them for you. It's
Unknown: just wrong.
Adam Curry: Have that one I have,
Unknown: of course I have, okay, heads, I win.
Adam Curry: Tails, you cheated. And so what? Okay, I think the
so what is at least worth considering? Oh, okay, well,
sorry,
John C Dvorak: okay, let's start with I have two, but they're
gems. One is sexy.
Unknown: How can those two be so sexy? Oh,
Adam Curry: wow, already a winner in my book.
John C Dvorak: And then this is one of the podcast ones
Unknown: that is the best podcast ever. Oh,
Adam Curry: I don't know which one to choose. Ah,
Unknown: how can those two be so sexy?
I like that. That is the best podcast
ever.
Adam Curry: I think it's got to be the best podcast ever. What
Unknown: do you think?
John C Dvorak: Yes, muddier though, but it is more
appropriate. It's
Adam Curry: funny, it's funny, it's good, it's good. What does
the troll room say? They're both too long. Okay, trolls, thank
you.
Unknown: Hey everybody. It's
Adam Curry: time for that moment at the end of the show, John's
Tip of the Day.
Unknown: And sometimes,
John C Dvorak: okay, so I have to, I'm gonna do two couple
things today.
Adam Curry: Oh, you're going crazy.
John C Dvorak: First one is, we had to do a quick search on
something, right? But
Adam Curry: you got to stay on the mic, because you, whenever
you like, I'm on
John C Dvorak: the mic. If I wasn't on the mic, I don't know
what I mean, near the mic, it was I'm right on top of it, off
Mike. If I was any closer to the mic, to be behind me. Okay,
well, try that. First of all, I want to kill the recommend a
previous tip. You're killing a tip.
Adam Curry: Killing a tip. Does it have to be removed from Tip
of the day.net?
John C Dvorak: Now you can leave it there, but I think it has to
have a disclaimer. It's the AliExpress.
Adam Curry: AliExpress is is no good.
John C Dvorak: But that brings us to today's tip, AliExpress is
no good because I purposely bought two flash drives, some
drives, USB drives, whatever you want to call them advertising,
whatever you want to call them from AliExpress,
Adam Curry: I call them threat vectors
John C Dvorak: that I knew were phonies, because you don't buy a
terabyte USB drive for three bucks. They just just no such
thing.
Adam Curry: Wow, there was no shipping and handling, so you
pay it came to your door for three bucks. So $6 total. You
got two terabyte thumb drives, and what did you were they Pesta
spend? What were they? They were
John C Dvorak: used to they, if you put them through a system,
which is what I'm going to recommend, is the tip of the
day, there are products out there. And the one I'm going to
recommend is a thing called Check flash, which is written by
Ukrainian. And I think the current version out is 1.1 1.1
7.0, and it was written by Ukrainian, and it you've sticked
to when you buy the drive. You had to do this at the beginning,
because it erases everything. It will check to see if your
terabyte drive really contains anything near a terabyte. So you
so if you get a bad drive, like these phony drives I bought from
Ali Express. You stick it in says, No, this is not a terabyte
drive. This not a or 500 gigabyte drive. It's a it's a
one kilobyte drive. But the header inside the drive will
say, Oh, yeah, terabyte. You're gonna got a terabyte. So you
start putting something on there, and it just craps out.
After you put one video on, there's they won't retake it,
and you realize the whole thing's a scam. And what makes
them want to take Aliexpress off the list is that they will
refund your money for these phony baloney products that they
sell. But for a week, over a week, I went to the return site,
website, and he's all down. We can't do it now. Call back
later. So I lost like 10 bucks or whatever it cost me for these
two products, but
Adam Curry: you gained a lot of malware since you stuck that
thing into your machine.
John C Dvorak: No, there's nothing on there. Well, for one
thing, I didn't stick it in the machine because I ran check
flash immediately. Which
Adam Curry: a Ukrainian piece of software? You're this is good
John C Dvorak: stuff. This Ukrainian guy is a, is a
geneticist who just happened to dream this piece of software up
this software i i check it through this. The other thing,
so check Flash is the product I like. It was written for Windows
eight. Still works fine, but no, there are products out there,
and I get people can identify the best of them, but they're
all over the place. The things that check the download so you
can see if there's any malware attached to it. Now, I got this
one from major geeks, and it seemed to be okay. It didn't
seem to have any mail. Or I have products that check that. That's
another tip. But the tip is, when you buy a flash drive, and
Amazon has sold these, they have sold these fake drives that say,
oh, it says, you know, it'll say something like 64 gigs. And 64
gigs a buck. No, there's nothing on the drive. Is bull crap, so
you have to buy one of these checkers that checks the flash
drive. Anyone has a better one than check flash let me know.
We'll plug it in the future, but that's what you do. So what's
your I just bought a couple of drives recently, and I ran them
through, and they're fine. They're real. So
Adam Curry: what is the tip? The tip is,
John C Dvorak: when you buy a new flash drive, a thumb drive,
a USB drive, check it before you use it to make sure it's legit.
Adam Curry: All right? And that's what is that software
called, again.
John C Dvorak: Check flash, okay.
Adam Curry: All right. And what do you use these drives for? Do
you hand them out to the kids who come up to the door? Hey,
kids, one one wants some files. I use
John C Dvorak: them for a lot of different things. For example,
if you want to take some old DVDs and turn them into MP fours
and you put them on the drive to give them to one of the kids.
Yeah, see the easiest way to do it.
Adam Curry: Hey, kids want to want some DVDs. Want some
movies.
John C Dvorak: No one has a movie player. They don't play TV
like
Unknown: you. No, I
John C Dvorak: don't know. There's no such thing as a DVD
Adam Curry: I don't have DVD DVD drives anymore.
John C Dvorak: John, these thumb drives for this stuff.
Adam Curry: We do. Will you send me a thumb drive with some
movies?
Unknown: Yeah. What
Adam Curry: movie you want? You know, the good ones
John C Dvorak: I those movies are that's something between you
and Tina, this has been your
Unknown: tip of the day. Thanks for listening. Y'all
come back now. There
Adam Curry: you go. Everybody, a retracted tip and a brand new
tip.
Unknown: Check flash,
Adam Curry: find them at Tip of the day.net. No agenda. Fun.com.
There you go. Hey, coming up next on the stream. Let me see
what we have we've got. Oh, interesting. Bandrew says is on
the stream. He's a comic strip bloggers buddy. This is the
benefit of three minute shorts on YouTube using shotgun mics in
untreated rooms. Yeah, he's a mic expert. Don't get me started
on mics, but he's a mic expert. So end of show mixes, we have
let me see D's laughs, David kecta, and we got the brand new
guy, John Valentine, and I'm coming to you from the heart of.
The Texas Hill Country home of the October 18. No agenda. Meet
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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon Valley, where it's kind of
overcast, maybe chili and the Blue Angels are flying around,
but you can't see them. That's just great. I'm John C Dvorak.
Adam Curry: We return on Sunday with another three hours of
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Unknown: such. I think of her as America's wine mom. And then
there's, I'm being Stern, so you don't realize how plastered I
am. And I'm making a point, and I'm talking a little girl with
me now I'm gonna go upstairs and don't knock on the door, because
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stick here. Sweet Willie Brown side piece, giving a horf at
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and was not joking. Shooting back, matter of fact, cleaning
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Trump, saying that she had a lunatic laugh, but put it in her
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minded, but maybe I'll just call him late. JD, Vance, stepping
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drunk again.
I don't know whether it'll be peaceful.
He knows how to talk tough, but more importantly, he
knows when the time for talk
is over and it is time to fight for what is right. Ladies
and gentlemen. It's done. Meet the fake press.
Deface somebody. They
can have a beer with you. Asked for Miller,
pilot, Kamala flew to a fundraiser in San Francisco, a
city she absolutely destroyed. She destroyed San Francisco. It
was the best city in the country, and now it's not good
at all. Well, families desperately try to escape the
rising flood waters, and they climb onto roofs. They did
anything they can to live, but Kamala didn't send any
helicopters to rescue them, and when people sent helicopters,
they turned them back.
John C Dvorak: They're pro eating bugs.
Adam Curry: Entomophagy, insectivore like cricket. You
Unknown: proper place for breakfast. Salt and creamy, but
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