John C Dvorak: Wow. Pre crime.
Unknown: Adam curry.
Chelsea Dvorak, Sunday,
Adam Curry: September 8, 2024 this is your award winning give
our nation media assassination Episode 1693
Unknown: this is no agenda, countering
Adam Curry: Canadian disinformation and broadcasting
live from the cruise ship, capital of Mexico, just north of
Puerto Rita in the morning. Everybody. I'm Adam curry and
John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley, where the NFL
season has begun, and it's more gay than ever. I'm John C
Dvorak. Buzzkill,
Adam Curry: wait a minute, wasn't the first game in Brazil
John C Dvorak: that was on Friday? Yeah. Oh. Was
Adam Curry: that the first game of the season? And why was the
first
John C Dvorak: game? Was the night before. Was Thursday. Oh,
it was the chiefs. And you said beating up on the Ravens. You
said
Adam Curry: it was more gay than ever.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, one of the quarterbacks of one of the teams
that they talk a lot about is wearing a red fingernail polish.
I don't know what that means, but it just seems a little
Adam Curry: unusual. Well, I can tell they are. They're
alienating their core audience.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, I don't think so. Everyone's got to be
open,
Adam Curry: yeah, especially the opening of the show. All right,
hey, we are a value for value podcast. That means that we give
you this show completely free, open, no pay walls, no hurdles,
no levels, no no mandatory subscription, no premium content
behind the firewall,
John C Dvorak: it's all premium. No mugs for sale.
Adam Curry: Although I have started calling what we're doing
mug club media. It's mug club media, everybody. I'm looking
for a word that's the opposite of mass media, and it's value
for value based. And the best I could come up with is mug club
media. I don't think it works.
John C Dvorak: It's no good. It's
Unknown: no good.
Adam Curry: Well, unlike Lex Friedman, you know, the start of
his interview with Trump, he had nine minutes of ads at the top
of the show.
John C Dvorak: You know, if I was him, I would do the same
thing.
Adam Curry: But if you were an advertiser, you'd probably be
upset. No one was because they
John C Dvorak: jammed them all together, and it was just they
got weaker and weaker in terms of their impact. Is that what
you're saying?
Adam Curry: No, I'm saying that that's what the fast forward
button is for. No one's gonna listen to those ads. Everyone
John C Dvorak: goes, yeah, there's that. That's a fact,
yeah.
Adam Curry: So I don't know. We also are not getting any tenant
media money, which, by the way, I've done a little bit of race.
What tenant Media Go? Know It? Yes, you do. That's the, that's
the whole pool boy and Reuben and that whole outfit.
John C Dvorak: No, the Russian money. Yeah, well,
Adam Curry: I'm calling it tenant media money. Oh,
John C Dvorak: confused.
Adam Curry: I've delved into this now. Oh
John C Dvorak: yeah, numbers, you say, you know, maybe, maybe
we just said a little more things. Pro Russian, hello.
Adam Curry: Hello, Comrade Dvorak. How are you doing this
morning?
John C Dvorak: Or, I'm sorry, net, so I think so I
Adam Curry: figured out what was happening, what a Canar this
was, and I say Canar with a reason. So what happened here is
this tenant media is Lauren Chen, or whatever her name is,
and her husband, their plan, I figured out their plan. Their
plan was to build their own YouTube channel into a
powerhouse. Exactly. Yeah, building a powerhouse. And of
course, they did this with the Russian money. They knew exactly
what they were doing, and so they figured, well, we'll give,
we'll give these guys, you know, this team over here, as far as
we know, only
John C Dvorak: I should stop you and mention that for people that
you to get a background on this, which we're not obviously giving
you at this point, go to the last show and listen to it,
because we have a rather elaborate discussion of this
particular thing. So you may have to listen to,
Adam Curry: I think most people kind of know what's going on.
Maybe,
John C Dvorak: geez, I'm just mentioning that. Okay,
Adam Curry: all right? Well, stop now and go back and listen
to the last episode. And how come you missed it anyway. So
the plan, the plan was to because, you know, there's a lot
of people out there saying, oh, pool board taking just some
great memes. They've got, they've got Tim pool instead of
a beanie on his head. He's got one of those Russian hats, furry
hats. They've got a cat. Yeah, they've got him on, you know,
Putin Nate with a bear, bare chest on the horse. They've got
little Tim there in front of him, bare chested on the horse.
Really funny meme, yeah,
John C Dvorak: you're asking for trouble, but it's who me. No,
him. Oh, yeah. Well. Or anybody who take, take a bunch of
Russian money, do some promotional Russian material.
Even though you might not know it, you're asking for trouble.
It's just the way it is. I don't
Adam Curry: think he really knew. I mean, of course, all
right, I guess it was some Belgian guy. But the plan this,
this is what I'm getting to the plan was for them to, you know,
license some, some hot content, by the way, no agenda show
anybody. They could have licensed it from us, and with
that, to build up this channel, which really only had a couple
1000 subscribers, because, you know, little do they understand
of how YouTube works. So it was, yeah, you have to fake it. Yeah,
it was really this channel. You have to
John C Dvorak: get some you have to get some kid in there, who
knows what he's doing to jack up the numbers. Exactly. You
remember 1220, 12.
Adam Curry: Yeah, Coney, 2012 exactly,
John C Dvorak: those numbers are fake.
Adam Curry: So, so that failed, but, but, you know, as I look a
little bit further into the story this whole thing, it's
Canadians who are doing this. This is Canadian disinformation.
This is not from Russia. We should be putting sanctions in
place against Canada. The Canadian
Unknown: owned social media channel that the US Justice
Department alleges as a key part of a Russian influence scheme is
now off YouTube. YouTube said tenant media violated its
community guidelines. Tenant media was founded by Canadian
Lauren Chen and her husband, Liam Donovan. Last year, YouTube
is also taking down four separate media channels owned by
Chen. Chen is a right wing commentator with posts
supporting Donald Trump and siding with Russia over the war
in Ukraine. US Department of Justice, indictment doesn't name
Chen or her husband, and they don't face charges. But as the
CBC Evan Dyer tells us, tenant is allegedly central to a
Kremlin scheme to use millions of dollars to influence American
public opinion and the US presidential election. A
US federal indictment says those opinions were bought and paid
for by the Kremlin, which funneled ten million in part
through roaming millennial, a Quebec company belonging to
Canadian influencer Lauren Chen and her husband, Liam Donovan,
who then used her Tennessee company tenant media to pay Maga
influencers like Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson, Tim pool and
Canadian Lauren southern to spread the Kremlin's pro Trump,
anti Ukraine messages.
We have not seen an adversary attempt to influence an American
election to this degree
before this former
FBI Director of counterintelligence says the
Russian president will be infuriated to see this operation
rolled up.
The message the US government is sending with these indictments
is we see you. We're on to you, and we're going to call this
out. The charging documents make it quite clear that they knew
who they were dealing with. So
far, though, the FBI has charged only Russians, not the
Canadians, and Americans charge
Adam Curry: the Canadians. This is horse crap.
John C Dvorak: What Russia's did they charge? And how would they
know? Well, that's the it's the this is a very dubious
situation.
Adam Curry: The Russians they charge are the ones who were
sending the money to the Canadians. This is Russia and
Canada colluding to interfere with our elections. And I want a
wall stop these Canadians
John C Dvorak: this? Well, you're, you're, I think you're
correct in the, in the in your being irked by the fact that the
Canadians are seemingly getting off scot free when it comes to
who's really behind this, whose idea was it? Was it the
Canadians to begin with? It sounds like it.
Adam Curry: It sounds like it to me. And I think there should be
sanctions. Throw them off. Swift,
Unknown: let's get rid of him.
John C Dvorak: Let's throw the cannon off. Swift.
Adam Curry: So Tucker is on the road with his show, which is
quite entertaining. I might say it's basically the vote for
Donald Trump show, but with interesting guests, and he had
Vivek, whoever he was, he's man we, I wish we could do it. He's
got, like, 1000s of people in these arenas and the just, he
just sits down with a guest and like, boom, done. Buy some
merch. See you later. What a gig, what a gig. Is good.
John C Dvorak: It's good up to it.
Adam Curry: I'm happy. Yeah, no, I'm happy for him. So this comes
up on, on this, I guess you call it a show with Vivek, but
Unknown: this idea of Russian election interference in
particular, let's trace the history of that in each of the
last two elections. Let's go to 2016 the allegation of Russian
election interference to support Donald Trump. When you double
click on that, look at what was the actual foreign election
interference there. It was actually US election
interference in the US election through the Steele dossier, but
laundered through the narrative of actual Russian interference.
And actually there was a Russian intermediary to perpetuate that
attempt at election interference about Trump's Russia collusion
hoax. That's in 2016 Right now we get to 2020. Again, domestic
election interference is the systematic suppression of the
Hunter Biden laptop story that didn't happen by Russian
companies. Didn't happen by the Russian government. It happened
by us social media companies acting out the direction
Canadian deep state actors in the US government that
suppressed probably a story whose suppression changed the
outcome of the 2020 presidential election. But again, what did
they say?
They said, No, no, this
was Russian disinformation, sure. So now you're seeing a
pattern in 2016
John C Dvorak: there's domestic Yes, are you telling me people
actually paid money to go into a big auditorium to listen to
this?
Unknown: Oh yeah, they love it.
John C Dvorak: I hear it on TV for free.
Adam Curry: People like live entertainment people,
Unknown: oh, oh, I'm
John C Dvorak: sorry you're categorizing this lecture as
entertainment. Okay, so now
Unknown: you're seeing a pattern. In 2016 there's
domestic attempts at election interference, but they run it
through a Russian smoke screen in 2020 there's domestic
election interference, but they run it through a Russian smoke
screen. So this time around, when I see Merrick Garland in
the Department of Justice sitting under the Biden
administration, suddenly alleging election interference
by the Russians, I have any facts other than to say, my
radar goes off and says, I want to know where that election
interference is actually beginning,
Adam Curry: Canada. So these two
John C Dvorak: big laughs I'm not hearing, you know, funny,
you
Adam Curry: know, I've watched a couple of these. And the here's
the mistake he's making. They do not have good crowd microphones.
They did. The crowd is not, well, miked. I
John C Dvorak: heard Mike, yeah, this is common. It's, it's, it's
Adam Curry: a shame. It's
John C Dvorak: a church. I've seen it. I've seen it. I was in
a situation once where the crowd wasn't Mike properly, yeah. And
I was always hilarious, by the way, yeah. And then you watch, I
watched the thing as they streamed it, and it was, there
was no reaction. Look like an idiot up there making jokes with
no response whatsoever.
Adam Curry: No, you look like a dud. I know it's so typical for
these because, you know, I used to do concerts that were for,
you know, concerts with big audience, and then it would also
be broadcast on television back in Holland, and we would always
focus the crew. It's not, you know, you're doing stuff, yes,
make the house sound good, but the lights are also TV lights,
and the sound is also TV sound you have to focus on they missed
it on this. Anyway, I want to
John C Dvorak: mention we did have a producer that went to one
of these events, RFK Jr showed up as a special guest, and he
thought it was entertaining, but it was only filled a 14,000 seat
arena with 12 by 1210, to 12,000 so
Adam Curry: only, only 12,000
John C Dvorak: Well, only 12,000 Yeah, with divide 18 to 10 bucks
they had, that's what it's good money,
Adam Curry: yeah. And then you get drinks. You get merch.
John C Dvorak: Parking. Merch is probably where they get a
Adam Curry: piece of parking. You get a piece of the parking.
You can have VIP parking. So unfortunately, and there's a
second follow clip here, they miss what we saw as obvious, a
lot
Unknown: of those allegations that they were somehow helping
Trump. I actually got curious. Actually, you could make strong
arguments that a lot of these posts or whatever actually
weren't helping Trump at all, but the fact that they called
that Russian election interference again, just
suggests to me that this may be part of a pattern of what we saw
in 2016 and 2020 so I don't really buy what they're selling
on this. Wow. I think it's just not a super clever group,
right? I think that.
I think the problem is they are actually a super clever group.
Oh, I think that this is just the beginning of a volley. So
this one's not gonna land. I think the public Fool me once.
Fool me twice. The reality is, I think there's some gonna be some
weird things that happen here in the next two months. I think
they're gonna be some depending what happens in the debate. So
I'm going to the debate next week in Philadelphia. It's gonna
be Tuesday. Going to be probably a Donald Trump demo, demolition,
destruction of the other side. But don't share too much, right?
Because I was at the last one, and that's actually, in some
ways, was a trap. It was obviously a trap. But they
scheduled the earliest ever presidential debate in US
history. Why did they do that? It was obvious. It was that they
wanted to test Biden as a final trial balloon, and they got a
free option because if he did great, great, they turned the
race upside down. But if Biden did as poorly as he did, they
swapped him out. It was something unthinkable that
became the obvious. So I think if we have another debate
smackdown on Tuesday, as I if I was a betting man, I'd predict
that's what we're about to have. I also would predict we're going
to have some very strange things that happen on the back of that
as well. See, I,
Adam Curry: I think they missed it. Our analysis was, it was so
clear to us, this is about Ukraine, or, as we say, Ukraine,
you know it's like. No, I don't think you're getting this right.
John C Dvorak: No, I would list all the analysis of this, of
this Russian stuff, and it was all and they left out. They left
out a lot. They always left something out. We caught it all.
No, you're it was about Ukraine. It had nothing to do
Adam Curry: at all. We can't be saying Ukraine. We have to say
well, you just said it, no, but, but no, that's, um, that's like
saying Gaza. You know, this is, for some reason, all the in
crowd, which is not us, is saying Ukraine, but you just
said it. I said Ukraine or Ukraine? And I said Ukraine,
yeah, but you got, but we, I was accentuating a point that we
don't say these things. Oh,
John C Dvorak: okay, well, Ukraine, Ukraine, yeah, yes,
that's exactly right, but that's not going to be picked up,
because that's not where the narrative is going to head. And
while all this is taking place, by the way, I think we should
start stop right here. And I think it's time to create a
pool, oh, a betting pool on where is because Vivek is
obviously an operative. Where is he going to end up? In the in
the Trump administration? Ambassador, he's going to get a
job. Ambassador, he's
Adam Curry: getting an ambassadorship to India. You
think just ship him off.
John C Dvorak: That's probably the best thing to do. Great
Adam Curry: job. Yeah, you need to ship them off to one of the
bricks countries. So India would be perfect. Let them go sit
there. I think that'd be good. Yeah, and you can, yeah. I
think, I think that's where I put my money in the pool India
ambassadorship. Good to go. So meanwhile, while everyone is
running around talking about Russian disinformation that came
from Canada, all the military industrial complex came together
in Ramstein, the Ramstein Air Base.
John C Dvorak: It's a Dirac group, isn't it? Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah. It's also an army base in Germany. And
everybody was there, and all the money was there. Everyone was
good to go, and we brought a big check. The
Unknown: Arrival appeared awkward, even if it was among
friends. Vladimir Zelinsky arriving at a meeting of defense
ministers from Allied countries, including the US, UK and hosts
Germany. He, like his country, soldiers once on a mission to
ensure Ukraine's partners were following through on promises to
help it win its war with Russia
a shortage of missiles and cooperation. This applies even
to our territory, which is occupied by Russia, including
Crimea. We think it is wrong that there are such steps we
need to have this long range capability, not only on the
occupied territory of Ukraine, but also under Russia.
Zelinsky is frustrated that allies still haven't permitted
Kyiv to hit Russia inside its own borders using Western long
range missiles. He believes this is a key way to put pressure on
Moscow to end its two and a half year war on Ukraine. But
speaking after the meeting US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin,
appear to indicate that Washington did not believe long
range capabilities would turn the tide of the war.
We had this discussion about about other capabilities, and
each time we point out that it's not just one thing, it's a
combination of capabilities and how you integrate those
capabilities to achieve objectives.
Early on Friday, the US said it would be providing an additional
$250 million in assistance, while the UK and Germany also
said they were providing equipment, including short range
missiles and how it says Ukraine says it desperately needs to
bolster its defenses. So
Adam Curry: of course, we're not going to give him long range
weapons, because that could potentially could do one of two
things. Could start world war three, minor issue, but it would
possibly end something, and they don't want that. Keep burning
stuff on that border, keep blowing stuff up, be doing a
good job. And who else was there. Who else was in in
Ramstein, doing, I swear to God, doing Instagram reels with
Zelensky. Lindsey Graham,
Unknown: I'm here with President Zelensky. I
am such a
admirer of what you and your country have done. What kind of
stop the Russians so we don't have to fight them. They don't
want any American troops.
Adam Curry: You're going to stop the Russians so we don't have to
fight them. You dope.
Unknown: Trying to stop the Russians so we don't have to
fight them. They don't want any American troops. They just need
the weapons to free their country. Yeah, yeah. We
Adam Curry: don't want American troops on the ground kill your
own people.
Unknown: Terrible invasion that they're sitting on.
John C Dvorak: So funny. Oh, it gets better. It
Adam Curry: gets better. He does a classic here, it gets better.
Unknown: Terrible invasion. They're sitting on trillion
dollars worth of minerals that could be good to our economy,
helping our friends in Ukraine. We can win this later. Help.
Yes, we need, and we have already the biggest help. Is the
support of American people and support of our friends. Thanks
to Lindsey and his colleagues, to congressmen and centers from
the United States, thanks for this support, bipartisan
support. Thank you so much.
Peace is coming. Yes,
Adam Curry: peace is coming right after we so I don't know
if Zelensky is he must be in on the game, because no way is he
gonna get any of the $26 trillion worth of minerals that
are in Ukraine's land. No way you said it again. I'm doing on
purpose now. And this is this. Lindsey Graham has been saying
this, but no one ever calls him out on it or says this is the
real reason for this war. They're
Unknown: sitting on 10 to $12 trillion of critical minerals in
Ukraine. They could be the richest country in all of
Europe. I don't want to give that money and those assets to
Putin to share with China or to Ukraine. If we help Ukraine now,
they can become the best business partner we ever dreamed
of. Sign here that 10 to $12 trillion of critical mineral
assets could be used by Ukraine and the West, not given to Putin
and China. This is a very big deal how Ukraine ends. Let's
help them win a war we can't afford to lose. Let's find a
solution to this war. But they're sitting on a gold mine,
Adam Curry: yeah, and this was months ago that he said this. So
it's like this, so obvious what is going on. They've already
given away all of the the bread basket of Europe to the big, you
know, Monsanto and Cargill, and not Montana Cargill, and who are
the other guys who did the big, uh, big, AG, Tyson. Probably
think Tyson, so Tyson's
John C Dvorak: on this deal well, but yeah, I'd rather have
the Russians. I hit the you know, we're not getting paid
Russian money, but I'm going to say it not yet. You're working
on it. I can hear you. I see what the Russians should have
them, let them do it, because the one thing I've noticed about
them is they're not gougers. When they're given all the gas
and they're pumping it all into Europe, and everyone said all
the way to go, we're gonna depend in on it, they're not.
They're never gouged anybody. They just let they just let it.
They take a look at it, take a small profit, and then they dump
it out there. And, you know, the gougers are, are looking for
that, that the wheat fields, and the gougers are looking for the
minerals
Adam Curry: the gougers are starving Africans with, with the
wheat and the grain, yeah,
John C Dvorak: that is, that is the negative side of capitalism.
So
Adam Curry: this brings me to a boots on the ground from one of
our producers in Russia who says, I love your show. I'm an
American currently studying
John C Dvorak: American in Russia. Yes, we need to get
Russians. You know, I want to stop right here and mention that
people that are listening to show that are in I know it's, I
know in Spain, they listen to the show. And I visit with a few
of them once, and they said, Well, the great thing about the
show is you guys speak clearly, and it's good for us to practice
our English. All world listeners out there should pass it along
to other people that are in the community, Russia and elsewhere,
listen to this show so you can practice your English. And
Adam Curry: we have transcripts in the modern podcast app so you
can read along and learn unbelievable and learn and learn
how to spell Dvorak,
John C Dvorak: John. See, John, see,
Adam Curry: love your show on American currently studying in
Russia because it's cheap. Just wanted to tell you that I've
observed what I have observed here in Russia regarding the
Russia, Russo Ukrainian war, I think, and do believe, that
there will never be a demilitarized zone in Russia, at
least maybe inside of Ukraine, the Kursk region will not be
part of a demilitarized zone. John touched on something I
think is true. In 1943 the Germans attacked the Kursk
salient and set up and to set up a trap. I think the Russians set
the same trap in the Kursk Region this time, as well as
there was nothing but green. This is a student. There's
nothing but green conscript guarding the border. A little
like October 7. Ah, the total number of troops crossing the
border at first was 1000 once they got inside Russia, the
Ukrainians put another 11,000 troops into the region. As of
now, the casualty numbers for the Ukrainians could be as high
as 6000 out of a total of 12,000 initial troop count. But of
course, you know that's not reported. Also, the Ukrainians
not gambled and lost. Anybody report facts. Also, the
Ukrainians gambled and lost that Russia would pull the troops
from the entire eastern front to stop this incursion, which they
didn't. Ukrainians had to redeploy some of their forces
from Kursk to pro Kursk just to slow down the Russian advance.
John, you had a clip from YouTube channel, military
summary channel, I know you two are busy and blah, blah. Blah.
Finally, just let the dames knights and fellow producers
know that Russians are really friendly, caring, and they have
a great sense of dark humor. They hold hands and hug, that's
for sure. They hold hands and hug while drinking overpriced
coffee, talking about how crappy their pop music is. And did you
see that latest internet meme? They could be Americans of the
eastern hemisphere, which is maybe why our governments are at
each other's throats sometimes. Also, I can still get Coke and
Pepsi here. McDonald's and KFC just renamed themselves to Tasty
period and rustics. Well, tasty period.
John C Dvorak: Nicey period. What
Adam Curry: kind, what kind of franchise marketing is that?
John C Dvorak: Oh no, but it doesn't sound right, while
Burger
Adam Curry: King hasn't even taken down their signs and are
still open for business in my city's biggest Molly even found
a can of a and W Root Beer from America. How do I know it's from
America? Ingredients in English, and second ingredient was high
fructose corn syrup. Well, how about that? That should be isn't
that illegal? Aren't they? Aren't they breaking sanctions
by still operating in Russia?
John C Dvorak: Oh, they use middlemen in some sort of a
legal way. Let's face it, there's a work it's called a
workaround. And one of the things Americans are good at is
workarounds. We're good at that. You find them, we work them out,
reach around, that's different. We're good. We're always mixing
these things. I'm
Adam Curry: sorry. I'm sorry. No
John C Dvorak: wonder you keep screwing up.
Adam Curry: So there was a so now we have a report, I think
France 24 it was maybe Deutsche villa, and they bring in a
military industrial complex shield, which the whole thing
was all mic, Ukraine
Unknown: says it is concerned by foreign media reports that Iran
has delivered short range ballistic missiles to Russia.
Moscow, they hear the Iran meme coming in now stepped up missile
and drone attacks in recent days, stretching Ukraine's air
defenses. Kief and its allies have previously accused Iran of
supplying ahead drones to Russia, but Iran denies playing,
supplying any weapons used to attack Ukraine.
Adam Curry: Let's bring in the shell well. So the story is,
What? What? What?
John C Dvorak: What? Why are they making this disassertion?
What? What difference does it make? Well, here
Adam Curry: comes the the shield to tell us why,
Unknown: and we are now joined by Mark. Can see in a former
colonel in the US military and now the Center for Strategic and
International Studies in Washington, Colonel, Russia,
need Iranian missiles. Does it not have enough of its own?
Well, it does
not have enough on its on its own. It has been producing
ballistic missiles all along, often with parts smuggled in
from global sources. But those haven't been enough to
accomplish the ends that they're trying to accomplish, for
example, attacking Ukrainian infrastructure, electricity, for
example. So they brought in ballistic missiles from North
Korea, and now they're proposing to bring in the ballistic
missiles from Iran. It's important to keep in mind that
Iran has been supplying Russia with missiles all along. 136 is
that we just heard about. Iran has been sending for about a
year. And in fact, they've set up a plant in the in Russia to
produce these missiles, these kamikaze drones, the ballistic
missiles, is a step up in support, but not fundamentally a
change in policy.
Adam Curry: Okay, so they're just bringing Iran into it for
whatever reason. We can kind of guess why. And if you heard at
the beginning of the well, of course, they want war with Iran,
anything more military industrial complex, finance?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's a bit of that, but it this whole
story that makes no logical sense. One thing they claim is
basically, the Russians are losers. They can't even make
their own damn missiles. Well,
Adam Curry: where does it come from? At the beginning of the
report you heard, according to reports? Well, where did it come
from? It came from the chiefs of MI six and CIA themselves, who
appeared at a Financial Times conference just before the
Ramstein conference,
Unknown: stepping out from the shadows for the first time
together a united front in an era of division and danger, such
as claims that Iran has supplied Russia with ballistic missiles
for its war in Ukraine. Should
Iran ship ballistic missiles of whatever kind, close range or
other kinds, it would be a dramatic escalation of the
nature of that Defense Partnership.
No confirmation that Russia's invasion of Ukraine is a key
John C Dvorak: wait. So these are good clips, by the way.
Thank you. The assertion there's interesting cross purposes of.
Assertions. The first one was that, oh no, they're not doing
anything, but they're going to start doing it. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Which is which we've known since day one, that they've been and
we've seen pictures of the missiles. I've written, I I've
shown, yes, pictures of the factories in the newsletter. Six
months ago, took longer, maybe, of the factory in Iran, exactly
the model numbers and everything that were for all these drones.
We have all the data, all the information that missile lands
and doesn't blow up, and they can see, they take pictures of
it and put those in the newsletter. It's all been
documented, but now, all of a sudden, they haven't really been
doing any of that, but they're going to start to Are you
kidding me? They think that we're that stupid.
Adam Curry: Well please bear in mind, for the first time ever in
public together, it's the chief of the CIA burns and the chief
of MI six more who are telling us this. So now we can believe
it.
Unknown: Of the nature of that Defense Partnership.
No confirmation, but Russia's invasion of Ukraine is a key
focus for the spike East. They applaud a recent incursion by
keys in the opposite direction, with Ukrainian troops snatching
parts of Russian land.
It's typically audacious and bold on the part of the
Ukrainians,
oh, so bold, on the part of the Ukrainian, audacious,
to try and change the game in the way. And I think they have
Adam Curry: Yes, yes, you want to say something. No, I
John C Dvorak: was just saying, I was just listening to the man
talk about
Unknown: my Shrek, to try and change the game in the way. And
I think they have, to a degree, changed the narrative around us.
The Kursk offensive is a significant tactical achievement
boost and Ukrainian morale. It exposed some of the
vulnerabilities of Putin's Russia and of his military.
Despite
the blow, Vladimir Putin is still deemed to be looking
strong for now, I
don't see any evidence today that Putin's grip on power is is
weakening. He, he does one thing really well, and that's repress
people at home. Yeah,
I mean, I just don't ever confuse a tight grip with a
stable grip. So
Adam Curry: he all he does is oppress people at home with, I
don't know, Burger King, KFC, McDonald's, a and W Root Beer,
Pepsi's. And then what does he actually come out and say
Unknown: an endorsement made in jest speaking as a guest at a
forum in East Russia, Vladimir Putin candidly suggested that
Kamala Harris was his preferred candidate for November's US
presidential
election. She
has such an expressive and infectious laugh, it shows she's
doing well. I mean, Trump, he's imposed more restrictions and
sanctions on Russia than any President has ever imposed
before. And if Mrs. Harris is doing well, maybe she'll refrain
from doing something like that.
The comments were met with laughter by the audience, adding
to the modern theme of the remarks a common trend whenever
Putin has talked on social issues in the United States, the
Russian president had earlier this year backed outgoing
President Joe Biden over Trump claiming he was more
predictable. Trump for his path, said he was left feeling split
over Putin's latest comments. I
don't know exactly what to say about that. I don't know if I'm
insulted or he did me a favor.
The US National Security Council, meanwhile, called on
Putin to stop talking about American elections and to stop
interfering with them. Stop
Adam Curry: talking about us.
Unknown: This is great. It's like he's trolling while he
totally
John C Dvorak: while he is picked up a clue. Yeah, he is
trolling. In fact, I like to have somebody else translate
what he said, Because I skeptical. I bet this clip came
out some time back and then was skeptical about it's a
translation. Well, that's a good point, although this
translation, with the one I heard was a woman translator,
and this one was a male so this is slightly different. Well,
Adam Curry: the reason I picked this one is, is France 24 and
they had a much more coherent translate. The translation was
the same as the the Russian translator, the clip that we all
and
John C Dvorak: the thing, the thing that made me suspicious
about the clip was that when he talked about camel's infectious
laugh, or basically, or cackling, yeah, the audience
cracked up as as if they'd heard it. And I don't know why they
would. Well, they've heard her life. Why would they have heard
Camela cackling? Why would they have heard any of it? It's
really, it's, it's like some minor, uh, little, uh piccadillo
That saves some politician in Portugal might have, and if you
mentioned to an American audience, they'd all, they'd all
laugh about it when we would have no clue. You just didn't
make any sense to me that they'd heard her laugh.
Adam Curry: Come on. They're serious,
John C Dvorak: that a Russian national would have ever heard
anything Kamala Harris ever said.
Adam Curry: My I dispute that. I think that the Russians are all
over listening to what's going on with us. Why not?
John C Dvorak: I just don't see it. I don't see one thing, she's
never said anything important.
Adam Curry: I mean, that's the only thing, listen, that's the
only thing she's known for is that laugh.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, to us the
Adam Curry: world over, the Dutch are talking about it. I
see it in the Dutch press. So, I mean, not quite Russia, but not
far off. So I don't know. We'll look for it. I
John C Dvorak: just said it made me skeptical. I mean, I didn't
know that the Dutch were all aware of the stupid laugh, but
Adam Curry: everyone's aware of the stupid laugh.
John C Dvorak: Dispute that. Now you use the word dispute, so I
used it back. You
Adam Curry: can dispute it all you want. Now, will they know
that she, all of a sudden, starts talking Southern and
black? No, no, that I that I think they wouldn't know until
now without
Unknown: voter suppression. JC, Abrams would be the governor of
Georgia. Andrew Gillum is the governor of Florida. Imma, get
into some business now. Okay, you all helped us win in 2020
and we gonna do it again in 2024 What are you gonna do about it?
He does not walk it like he talks sick when we get this done
together, my friend, can I get a witness? You think you just fell
out of a coconut tree?
Best Rapper alive,
chouphop.
Are you kidding me?
I'm totally part of that whole listening generation of music.
Young men of color. Black men. Is not it's not just a
barbershop. We got these brothers out there. This one
brother was doing a lot of work space. We have to say, woke,
let's get a cease fire. There must be an immediate cease fire,
like everybody needs to be, woke to stay more woke than less.
Woke. Leave grandma's medical marijuana alone. You better.
Thank a union member. Thank a union member for sick. Leave,
you better. Thank a union member for paid leave, and I thank a
union member for vacation time. I also worked at McDonald's.
Adam Curry: There you go see the Russians. Didn't know about
that. They do now.
Unknown: Hello, Russia.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, the one or two Russians that listen
to this show. They got to get more people listening.
Adam Curry: Yes, I agree. Hit some Russians in the mouth. Not,
not a call for violence. Yeah, okay, well, I've opened the
show. Well,
John C Dvorak: I do have my all my totality of Ukraine. Eclipse
is from PBS. It's a 22 second clip was summarized. What was
you didn't even touch upon, but it did summarize the Ukraine war
for the last week, and you might as well play it. In
Unknown: Ukraine, Russian drone attacks are getting dangerously
close to the country's capital. Ukraine's Air Force said that
across the country, overnight, it shot down nearly 60 long
range drones, debris and shrapnel fell on the streets in
Kyiv, some of it narrowly missing the country's parliament
building. President Volodymyr Zelensky is in Italy. Today.
He's meeting with European leaders to try to shore up
support and ask for more
Adam Curry: aid. Money. Money, money. Looking for money. Money,
money. Come on, man, give me some money. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Hey, guys gotta go,
Adam Curry: Oh, he's perfect. He's, I mean, he's, he's perfect
for the whole, gotta go. He's perfect for the whole, the whole
system.
John C Dvorak: I'm sick of the system being exploited. That's
our money. It's your money, my money. Everyone that listens to
this show, it's their money. Oh, this. They're just stealing
money. No,
Adam Curry: I feel your, your dismay. I'm just pointing out
the obvious. The guy's not going to go he's fantastic. Look,
when, when we send another two $50 million or if we're, if we
make decisions about long range missiles, why is it only Lloyd
Austin that talks about, where's our president? Isn't he the one
to get it out? Isn't he the one that should be telling us what
we're doing? No, they just send over generals and then
contractors, and they all sit in at a long desk, and Zelensky
then, oh yeah, good man, yeah. Keep it going, brother. Yeah. We
want more stuff.
John C Dvorak: Oh, you do have another I have another clip of
play. This is the drone. It says, Don't he have this is,
this is the counter clip. This is a longer clip. NPR does a 33
Adam Curry: seconds. Oh, nice. Here we go.
Unknown: Russia continued to bomb Ukraine today. Strike. Near
the parliament in the country's capital, Kyiv, during the early
hours, the country's Air Force said nearly 70 drones were used,
and most were shot down with air defenses. No deaths were
reported in the capital, but elsewhere in Sumy, Kharkiv,
Kherson and Dnipro, local officials say Russian attacks
injured or killed at least four people. This as funeral services
were held for victims of an earlier Russian attack on
Poltava that killed more than 50 people and injured hundreds.
John C Dvorak: You see that no mention of money. There
Adam Curry: no but the horrible. The reason why it's a 33 second
report is because even NPR knows no one in America cares anymore
about this. We've we're immune. We're like,
John C Dvorak: I agree. I agree with that. So they're
Adam Curry: trying to keep their audience. So PBS, so
John C Dvorak: they gotta do more anti Trump stuff and stuff
about these wars or anything.
Adam Curry: Yes, that's what you need do more. You know, the I
didn't clip any of it, but the latest trend in and I heard this
on on the media from NPR, the trend is to say we're not
reporting right on Trump. We're translating his incoherent
blather because he's old, he's old and he can't senile and
senile, and so we're translating it. We should be playing and
saying exactly what he said, because no one understands it.
He's, I mean, it's all this is the new move is to make you got
to make Trump sound stupid. Well, the problem is that they
don't have enough air time, because his what he calls the
weave. It takes too long. It takes way too long for him to,
you know, to get to a point.
John C Dvorak: And, oh, it takes forever. It's, that's his whole
thing, is he, he's just a audience hog, the only way to
describe it, yes, he goes up there and yaks, yaks, yaks, yes,
and he, and he tries to do material. I had a clip here that
actually discusses this.
Adam Curry: Well, this is the trend, so I'm glad, I'm glad
that you're on it, because I didn't get anything.
John C Dvorak: Here's nb. This says NPR. Put Emma seven in this
randomly ripping Trump on his tariffs and some others. This
just a random NPR rip
Adam Curry: man, I wish I could find it. You confuse me with M,
John C Dvorak: P R, M, as in, Mary looking at m, O,
Adam Curry: M, P R, yes, I got you.
Unknown: Former President Donald Trump spoke at a rally in
mosney, Wisconsin this afternoon, a speech that went on
for more than an hour and a half the rally, no state push both
campaigns are doing with less than two months until Election
Day and pierce Daniel Curtis Leben reports,
Trump made many of his usual arguments, like railing against
the quote fake news and casting undocumented immigrants as
dangerous. See, this
Adam Curry: is what they want. They Hey, hey, you can't do that
anymore. You have to verbatim report what he said, because
he's he has cognitive issues. He also repeats.
John C Dvorak: He would stop before he finish that or that
thought. The way they begin the report is, though he went on for
an hour and a half like he's a rambling old man, as if he's
never He does 145 once in a while. Yeah, an hour and a half
in the modern era is short,
Adam Curry: and you wonder why people pay money to go see
Tucker and Vivek. They go, they they love, people love the live
show. Can't afford Oasis tickets, so you might as well go
to either the free Trump show, which is
John C Dvorak: not you mentioned it. What is a Taylor Swift
ticket cost? Oh, if you can get one, I've been just like 500
bucks and up. I've been hitting
Adam Curry: refresh for hours. Also repeatedly promoted
tariffs.
Unknown: We will charge other countries when their product is
sent into our country. And why shouldn't we? That's exactly
what they do. That's what that's what made China strong. Foreign
countries do not pay tariffs. Businesses importing goods to
the US do tariffs can be attempts to protect domestic
industry, but economists say many of tariffs costs are passed
on to us, consumers. As President Trump imposed tariffs
on hundreds of billions of dollars of Chinese goods.
President Joe Biden kept tariffs on Chinese goods in place.
Danielle kurtzweb, NPR news now.
John C Dvorak: Okay, this is an interesting report, because they
go on to condemn Him for tariffs, yeah, but Biden did it
casually, yeah, casually just kind of mentioned, just to
balance the report. I'm not sure why they even did it. Well, they
mentioned that
Unknown: go ahead. Well, I
John C Dvorak: thought you had something to say there.
Adam Curry: No go ahead.
John C Dvorak: I would do so what they did was they set it up
with all this guy's terrible. Oh, by the way, Biden did the
same thing. They only did that because it because they would be
condemned by the media watchers for not saying, hey, wait a
minute. Why is it so bad when Trump does it, but it's okay
when Biden does it, which is really what the combat so they.
Lip it in at the end, as though you won't notice. So
Adam Curry: it's very poor. So I've seen a couple things that
make me question. Well, I mean, if you look at the headlines
today, neck and neck, it's very close, within the margin of
error. It's a horse race, everybody. Oh, it's crazy. It's
so close, so close. I don't know if they're trying to pull
Trump's numbers up a little bit or I don't know, yes, I don't
know what PBS was thinking with this. This is so instead of
playing crazy Trump, let's play something from the crazy Trump
voters. And Are they crazy?
Unknown: I spoke to another Trump supporter, woman who
really spout
Adam Curry: why don't they say voters? They always say
supporters. You don't notice that. So that's a good I'll have
to start looking for that call about they say fans or
supporters, or anyway,
Unknown: I spoke to another Trump supporter, woman who
really spouted a series of conspiracy theories. She was
someone being trained for this Trump force 47 potentially, she
was in that she's gonna be one of those people trying to
persuade she was in that meeting. I didn't stay for the
actual training, but she was there for that event.
John C Dvorak: And hold on, Trump
Adam Curry: force 47
John C Dvorak: I didn't stay for the actual Wait. Why didn't she
stay? Because it
Adam Curry: would, it would rot her brain, and she'd become a
Trump supporter. She didn't want the programming. I don't know.
This is Trump force. If
John C Dvorak: you're reporting on something, no, even if you
didn't stay, why would you say that? It seems to me that you,
especially if you're NPR or PBS, whatever, this is same thing. I
Adam Curry: think this was these are on YouTube. These are like,
Zoom calls. You can sign up to become part of Trump force 40
Okay, okay, yes, I like it a lot. Actually, I like the whole
idea of Trump force 47
John C Dvorak: Yeah, okay, well, you can just keep playing force
47
Unknown: I didn't stay for the actual training, but she was
there for that event, and she told me, you know, I believe Joe
Biden died three years ago, you know, I told her, you know, that
sounds like a
Adam Curry: conspiracy theory. Well, Boyd, she countered. She
said, Oh no, that's a conspiracy theory. You know that, right?
And I told
Unknown: her, you know, that sounds like a conspiracy theory,
you know, that's a stereotype against Trump voters. And she
said, I know that. But again, this is true. So I talked to the
first woman, suburban woman, I Trump voter, said, you know,
these are the other supporters of Donald Trump. These are the
same people in your party supporting him. I just said, you
know, I think that's just crazy, you know. So they're, they're
really on different pages. They're both behind Donald
Trump, but they, neither one, are quite seeing the full
picture of his support and what he stands for to everyone who
supports him. So
Adam Curry: what I supports him. What I like about this is
they're saying there's such a wide array of people who are all
in on Trump, they're baffled by it. Yes, they're baffled,
exactly like the crazy ones. And the other ones say, Okay, well,
she's crazy, but it's all right. They cannot fathom that. People
just want an agenda, or, you know, they want a platform, or
they want something, anything, but what we have, they can't
lockstep
John C Dvorak: is what this is, the way they are. And the thing
that still fascinates me to go back to it, this was agenda with
Trump 47 I guess, force, whatever it's
Adam Curry: called, Trump force 47
John C Dvorak: Trump force 47 training, and you had the
opportunity to go to get in on it as a reporter. And you you
could report on exactly what the training was and how it works.
What kind of a Reporter Are
Adam Curry: you? There's and I'm seeing all kind
John C Dvorak: of asking you, I mean just gently, I
Adam Curry: hear you. I hear you that it's PBS reporter, is what
she is.
John C Dvorak: Would you like to come to our conspiracy theory
meeting? I know we don't usually let the press in, but if you
come in, it's okay. It'll be okay for you to come in and spy
on us. No problem. And you don't do it. I hereby invite. Are you
nuts?
Adam Curry: I hereby invite any PBS reporter to come to my vape
shop meetings, because you'd love them. You'd love to hear
the ranchers receivable, I know. So now it's interesting how we
kind of switched up beats out just looking at the titles of
your clips. So you brought in the Christian nationalism last
time, and CBS and that was, I think, NPR CBS did a series, you
know, the little report. And it sounded to me like they're
actually trying to get the non voting evangelicals out to vote,
which makes no sense, because that's the whole, you know, as
we've discussed. The whole problem is that the
evangelicals, the Christians, the Christian nationalists, they
don't vote. So they do a story where they say, Hey, these guys
don't vote
Unknown: under a massive circus tent in Eau Claire, Wisconsin,
Lance wall now is the ringleader preaching Christian nationalism
and political activism to. A rapturous following. Rapturous,
Adam Curry: a rapture, rapturous. I missed that the
first time I heard it, a rapturous following. Unless you
learn how to mobilize and how to move in at
Unknown: a local level, then you're letting the devil
dominate your culture, while now 68 is a business consultant,
self proclaimed Prophet and firebrand influencer in the
growing charismatic Christian movement. Oh, wow.
Adam Curry: What I want that on my business card. Fire brand.
John C Dvorak: Just put it on fire brand. Fire brand.
Unknown: He views Trump as a once in 1000 years figure,
flawed yet divinely chosen to navigate chaotic times. I caught
that idea in 2015 when I first met Trump, and I got a lot of
pushback after he got elected, because they were searching
around for how, why did the How could the Evangelicals justify
voting for some, you know, barbaric character like Trump
and they're hypocrites that they are well now admits that Trump
twice divorced and roundly accused of other moral failings
does not align with traditional evangelical expectations. I
said, Listen, give the guy some time. He doesn't know who we
are, but his values resonate with our community. God's
raising up an outsider, while now headlines the so called
courage tour, a religious road show that aims to mobilize
religious conservatives to vote and serve as election workers in
key counties.
Adam Curry: So that's just the setup. But then we get closer
into it, and I really think
John C Dvorak: CBS so the reporter is Major Garrett. Yes,
that's who that is. And he is kind of on the fence. He used to
be his fox, and he's always been on the fence with Trump, because
Trump because Trump is calling out as a douchebag
Adam Curry: more than one Good point, good point. So we should
keep that in mind. Well, it doesn't matter. It still has to
go through the CIA broadcast systems or the editors. Yeah,
and
Unknown: Trump evangelicals don't see an abrasive, thrice
married billionaire. They do see an anti establishment leader,
strong on abortion, gender issues and Israel. I
want people to vote because he stands for something. Jackie
Brokaw
lives in Wisconsin and attended the courage to her with her
brother.
The number of Christians that are in this area, if they would
vote, they could swing this county, which would probably
swing the rest of the state
we are seeing here today is the most targeted and tactical voter
mobilization effort done by Christian nationalists ever.
Matthew Taylor has written extensively about this new form
of religious activism that fuses political outcomes with divine
intervention. What is the political import possibly, in
the 2024 election of events like this. Well, if Trump wins, then
that becomes a part of the impetus that Donald Trump can
say, I don't just have a democratic mandate. I have a
divine mandate to change the country in accordance with the
biblical values that these folks claim to have.
Adam Curry: Yeah, Trump's gonna be, yeah, that's right, God. God
did it for me. And here comes the final, the final pitch, I
think, from Major Garrett.
Unknown: January 6 was not an insurrection, it was an election
fraud intervention. 2020, election denialism is core to
wall now's world view, and the terminology at his revivals is
apocalyptic. It's not us that's dangerous. It's them describing
a spiritual battle between pious believers and demons who speak
through Democrats or liberals. Yes, it's not just the person,
spiritual force, demonic or demonic? Yeah, they can
influence people with bodies. He believes hyper focused Christian
political energy can overcome those perceived obstacles, the
tendency to just look at elections, pray about them, eat
popcorn, watch the result and then go to bed, is over.
Christians as believers probably should be engaged in this
process of shaping culture far more aggressively and
intentionally from now on, as for their impact on the
election, God only knows, major carrot in Eau Claire, Wisconsin.
Adam Curry: So, so that is he literally is, is helping the
message. It's better than maybe
John C Dvorak: again, the CIA we have talked about this on and
off and on and off, which is it possible they really want Trump
to win, yeah, and the whole thing is just a smoke screen
for, like, trying to get Trump to win somehow.
Adam Curry: Well, this report felt like it, and I can tell you
that churches around like it too. Churches around America are
speaking like this. I don't know if you want to call them
Christian nationalism, nationalists or extremists, but
that that there's a, there's a big movement out there trying to
do exactly this, and CBS just helped. Very interesting.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Anderson Cooper brought out a
whopper of lies. We begin
John C Dvorak: tonight with the former president, campaign
politics, his legal troubles and lies. He finished his day in
Charlotte, North Carolina, where the Fraternal Order of. Police
endorsed him, and he had this to say about a violent attack on
Nancy Pelosi husband.
Unknown: You know that Nancy Pelosi is a big wall wrapped
around her house. Of course, it didn't help too much with the
problem she
John C Dvorak: had. That is that's the former president
speaking to members of law enforcement making light the
first time I should point out of the violent attack against Paul
Pelosi, a home invader, beat Mr. Pelosi with a sledgehammer and
fractured his skull. What sledgehammer? Sledgehammer we
saw the video. He's holding a regular claw hammer,
Adam Curry: sledgehammer. I
John C Dvorak: love we all saw it
Adam Curry: like, okay, pooper, a sledgehammer, no less. Gotcha.
Hey, by the way, the Fraternal Order of Police. Are those the
guys that always call me asking for money.
John C Dvorak: Sometimes they call. I mean, nowadays they have
this new guy. They have a new with with the big, heavy voice.
Hey, the guy with the big voice, which is a AI voice, oh, and
he's, it's an AI character, and which is easy to hang up on,
because you don't have to make an excuse.
Adam Curry: Yeah, you're right. And yes, you're right. It is an
AI.
John C Dvorak: It's an AI guy says, Hi, how you doing? You
know, this is a nightclub. Don't hang up because, oh and he
laughs about something, and he but he has a voice. He has that
beautiful voice.
Adam Curry: This is Sergeant Pete from the Fraternal Order of
Police. Are you interested in in protecting police? It's, yeah,
he's
John C Dvorak: got this guy's got a great voice, yeah. And
it's, it comes up, I get that call about once every couple
months. Yeah, a couple of months, I get it too. And it's
the same guy, it's the same voice, and now it's an AI. So
it's not it's and it interacts. It's interactive AI, so you can
say something to it, except Are you an AI voice? And then you
hear the thing going to a stall as it tries to dredge up an
answer to that. Or they got to fix this. Because if you're
gonna do that, they gotta come up with a quicker response,
yeah. Because every time you call it out as a robot or AI, it
goes into a long loop, and then it comes back with, oh, no, I'm
not AI. I'm a real person. It's terrible. It is terrible. And
it's so easy to spot and very easy to hang out.
Adam Curry: I'm not a I, yeah, so I want to call out the the
press on all sides about this bull crap Dick Cheney
endorsement. You think that Dick Cheney was out there with his
heart in his in his shoulder bag, which he has, he has that
battery powered thing that keeps his heart going. If he still
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: he's got, yeah, he has a heart. But Amazing how
long this guy can live.
Adam Curry: But it wasn't Dick Cheney. He didn't come out and
say that. Oh, this happened in Texas at the what was this? The
Texas Tribune interview of his daughter,
Unknown: Dick Cheney. Your father, a beloved figure among
Democrats for many, many years. Do you if you know who he will
be supporting or who he'll be voting for? Do
you care to share with us who
he might be voting for Dick
Cheney will be voting for Kamala Harris.
Adam Curry: That's the extent of the so called Dick Cheney
endorsement. I
John C Dvorak: thought that. I thought there was a press
release that came out from Dick Cheney saying he would support
Kamala. Well, I
Adam Curry: haven't seen it. I've only, I've only seen
headlines
John C Dvorak: wheat maybe, yeah,
Adam Curry: you're on. People are calling for an intervention
of your your your ex, your ex usage. They're very concerned.
John C Dvorak: As long as my numbers go up, and they have
been going up, I'm keeping it up. This is good for the show.
Adam Curry: So, you know, we
John C Dvorak: all come on there's funny stuff in there.
Adam Curry: Yeah, there is funny stuff. We're just worried that
you're too caught up in it. People love you, John, that's
why, no, just want to make sure you're okay. Blink twice.
John C Dvorak: So we handle it. We anyway.
Adam Curry: So we finished the whole series of Veep with Julia
Louis Dreyfus, and I've been looking at all these parallels
with Kamala Harris, and there was a, there was, near the end,
she's doing this negotiation with the Chinese, and it turns
out the campaign manager she hired is, you know, is working
for the Chinese, and they kill her ex husband. And so this
throughout the thread of the entire, you know, back end of
the series, her PR guy, stupid Mike, who is stupid. He's trying
to adopt a kid from China, and they're at Camp David, when she
becomes she's temporarily president, and she pisses off
the Chinese. And then all of a sudden, you know, the Chinese
say, Oh, we've now stopped all adopt. Options of children from
China, and then this which, well, this story pops
John C Dvorak: Today,
Unknown: China says it is ending most foreign adoptions of
Chinese children. The announcement puts hundreds of
American and other foreign families with pending
application, their adoptions in limbo. The only exceptions would
be for foreigners adopting the children or stepchildren of
blood relatives in China. Since the early 90s, the country has
sent 10s of 1000s of adoptees overseas, with about half
arriving in the US. For decades, China only allowed couples to
have one child, forcing many families to put their children
up for adoption, but to slow down a falling birth rate, the
government reverse policy?
Adam Curry: No, I don't think so. I think that this is a
couple of days ago, by the way, yeah, I know it's retaliation
today, huh? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: okay, I'm just getting the timeline Correct.
Thank
Adam Curry: you. It's retaliation. They don't want
whatever Carmel is doing with China. They don't like it, which
could be,
John C Dvorak: by the way, you you kind of, I think you may be
light hearted when you say that, but I two people are trying to
adopt kids. You might be right. Well, it really upsets. I mean,
people who are into adopting kids because, for one reason or
another, because they can't have kids they have to adopt. Are
they like kids? No, seriously, yeah, they will. This is cutting
off one a stream of possible kids that they can raise
Adam Curry: a stream of kids. Well, it could be because of the
export controls that were announced. You heard about this?
I'm not sure. Well, it's from NTD. So you know, when it's
about China, it must be true. Must be true, and it also hits
on another one of my favorite topics.
Unknown: Washington has a new plan for stemming the flow of
advanced microchips to Beijing. The Commerce Department came out
with new rules Thursday. From now on, companies looking to
export technology and tools related to quantum computing
have to apply for export licenses
Adam Curry: quantum computing. You don't say, Are we pivoting?
Unknown: The new restrictions are meant to prevent Beijing
from using that technology to advance its own military
semiconductors are critical to military power as they're
required for the most advanced weapons and equipment. The
guidelines didn't name China, but they expand similar
restrictions that the US previously put in place. The
rules are effective immediately. The expert controls cover a
number of things, quantum computing, items, advanced tools
for making microchips and a piece of key technology used in
chips for supercomputers. Samsung has started using this
technology to make one of the globe's most advanced chips,
though, there are exemptions, friendly countries like Japan
already have their own export controls, so entities in those
countries are not subject to the new US export controls.
Washington's new action comes after China found new ways to
get around restrictions
Adam Curry: so quantum computing no longer AI, which I found
interesting. Now that NVIDIA is crashing, I know it's up 100%
over year over year, but still, it's bringing down the whole
market. And they've coerced, they've coerced the Dutch into
this, like, Hey, you ASML Dutch guys, you're not going to
export, right? Because, you know, quantum computing is
important for advanced weaponry. The US
Unknown: previously banned Chinese companies from getting
their hands on certain powerful AI chips, but some Chinese firms
have been able to utilize computing power generated from
these chips with a workaround by using us cloud computing
companies like Amazon, web services, the Commerce
Department said it expects to see similar export restrictions
from friendly countries. The Netherlands is following
Washington's footsteps. The country is home to the world's
leading supply of microchip producing equipment, ASML, the
gear allows companies to mass produce advanced chips. On
Friday, the Dutch government said it would expand export
licensing requirements for some of ASML chip making equipment.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: that's right. Shut up. Duchies do what we say. I
just thought it was interesting that you know, you you ban the
supply of kids from China right around the same time that you
put export restrictions on quantum computing chips. Is
quantum computing really one chip. All I see is, nobody knows
what it is, obviously these spaceship things that you see,
Google quantum wish it was one chip that worked, yeah, of
course it's not. Yeah. That worked, exactly the work
John C Dvorak: that that worked. The word worked, yeah is the key
here. I'd love to know we've been bullshitted into thinking
it does well, I'm extremely scared. I mean, you may be
skeptical by AI, totally the quantum computing is a non
starter. Just
Adam Curry: as skeptical of of of quantum as I am of AI, my
question is, who I. These are first. Who is making these so
called Quantum chips? What company?
John C Dvorak: I have no idea. They've kind of hinted Samsung's
got something to do with this, although that same assertion
about Samsung could apply to AI chips the way they said, it was
vague. It's vague.
Adam Curry: I'm just going to stick with the technology for a
moment. We have a lot of dudes named Ben out there and dudettes
named Bernadette, who maintain many systems of the windows
variety. This goes back to the CrowdStrike bug that brought
down the entire world for a little bit, stopped hospitals
from operating, stopped airlines from flying, except for
Southwest the team over at the pirate software podcast had an
interesting deconstruction, which I'd like to know if you
saw this happen, and you can probably go back in the logs and
check within your own IT infrastructure. So the
interesting
Unknown: thing that I'm kind of waiting on right now is you have
windows and you have CrowdStrike right initially, I believe that
CrowdStrike is at fault for this, and the reason why is
because CrowdStrike pushed an update and then everything broke
in Windows because this update was in place only for
CrowdStrike related machines. But it's not that simple.
Windows pushed an update and CrowdStrike pushed an update and
everything was fine, and apparently Windows has then
pushed another update and then everything broke. Now, the
interesting part about this is that the machines were fine
initially under this configuration, and Windows
changing that configuration caused this problem to occur,
which then leads into a really weird legal territory, which is,
Whose fault is this? Is it Windows fault because they
changed that configuration? Should they have changed that
configuration? Or is it crowdstrikes fault because it
caused the system to die under that configuration that wasn't
the initial one that they pushed that update on? Usually inside
of the tech space, we would blame the individualized
program, not the operating system. The operating system
would not be at fault here, but legally speaking, we don't know.
Adam Curry: So I thought this was fascinating. I It happened
on a Friday, which is not typical for a Windows Update.
No,
John C Dvorak: they always happen on Tuesdays. And the
thing is, I I'm finding peculiar that he keeps saying Windows
instead of
Adam Curry: Microsoft. Yeah, I didn't like that either. But
Windows is not a company, but that, that could just be
semantics. So what he's saying is that Windows pushed an
update, CrowdStrike pushed an update, and everything was fine,
but then Windows pushing up, and remember, we had that Azure
outage, which was really odd. We don't quite understand the
timing of that, which you would think is Windows machines. Who
knows? It's probably all running Linux. Remember Hotmail was
running on Linux. Remember
John C Dvorak: that Microsoft bought and it's, oh, my God, we
got to recode the whole thing.
Unknown: Got to put it on NT.
Adam Curry: So I'd like to know our dude's name, Ben out there.
Let me know if you have any evidence that that happens,
because that would change some potential liability or not. It's
EULAs, you know or not.
John C Dvorak: No, I haven't heard that particular I like the
idea about So, what did else do these guys talk about should
listen to this podcast. It's
Adam Curry: a little it's a little tedious, you know,
because it's four guys, and they're yucking it up, and
they're all talking together, and they're drawn on
whiteboards, and it's the pirate software podcast. Now, good
guys. I like them. I like them. I like what they did there.
John C Dvorak: All right, let's see what we got here. Let's go
with you. Just brought this up. You brought up the issue of the
Chinese adoption. So might as well go to the A series that was
done on PBS fixie, an exposition on family planning that I
thought was kind of interesting with the because it has a
kicker. Last
Unknown: year, the US birth rate hit a record low, but data
suggests that over the past 30 years, the number of adults who
want or wish they had children has remained relatively stable.
So why aren't they having children or expanding their
families? Ali Rogin explores some of the complexities of
today's family planning.
Over the past few weeks, we've been speaking with Americans who
say they want to have a child or grow their families about why
they're hesitant to do so. Their answers were varied and complex,
just like the solutions they said would help them change
their minds,
Adam Curry: grow your family.
John C Dvorak: Reminds me, I stopped it here thinking, well,
this might be an interesting report. Then it turns out that
you should listen and listen and listen. It is just a pro. It's a
Kamala Harris promotional piece.
Unknown: Of course, I
always wanted kids I love before you
John C Dvorak: play this second part. It cuts into interviews
with just a random they have a person. Then. Say, boy, they
don't like having kids, and then another person, they just one
after the other, after the other, after the other. And you
can start to hear the Kamala Harris promotion within the what
these people are complaining about. Not everyone, by the way,
look like they ever I'm sorry, none of them look like they want
to have kids anyway. But okay, I always
Unknown: wanted kids. I love kids, but economically, I don't
really know of anyone who can swing it anymore, even parents
that are working full time, they can't afford childcare. They
don't have a village to help them raise them.
I'm grateful that we are in like, a stable financial
situation. Still, it's difficult to raise a child. We don't have
any family close by. We have friends who also have kids. Is
Adam Curry: she Chinese? Is this? Is this a Chinese lady?
She was Spanish. Oh,
Unknown: so they are also busy taking care of their families.
It's difficult. We don't we don't have anyone. Every
year there comes out a new statistic of whether or not
we've hit the turning point for climate change, and that's
something that I take into consideration when it comes to
starting a family, because I don't want to raise a child in a
world that every year gets closer and closer to becoming
uninhabitable. So
Adam Curry: Kamala Harris, climate change, okay, you better
bring it home in the kicker.
John C Dvorak: Well, let's bring it home in the
Unknown: kicker, if universal child care was an option and we
didn't have to worry about that, if universal health care was an
option, and, you know, I wouldn't have to wonder if I can
anticipate, you know, regular maternal care, high quality
maternal care while I was pregnant, then, yeah, we
absolutely would have made an effort to expand our family, for
sure?
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. Because, of course, that's the 6000
that's
John C Dvorak: exactly two main things. Is, you know, having
universal child care, because you can't keep care of your own
child, so you have to have somebody else. You want the
government to take care of your child, and you want the
government to take over the medical system. So there you go.
There's, that's the camel. It went on. And if you if I played
the whole thing, you start to hear it. No, I
Adam Curry: heard it's all about sense. And you know, Sir Brian
Baron of the Connecticut River Valley, he went searching for
the 19 million new business applications. Ah, which I love,
because, you know, that's what time talent treasure is all
about. Yeah, totally, we have the best producers in the
universe. He says, Ah, I found it. The so called new business
application in the 19 million claim is filing a Form SS four
to obtain an employer identification number from the
IRS, of which, of course, you know, 10 million will probably
never do anything with it. Oh, so it's a little special,
John C Dvorak: good catch. Yeah, congratulations on that. Yeah,
Adam Curry: which I thought was a very good catch. Yeah, more
Bs, and that's not exactly a new business filing. But okay, we'll
take it. We'll take it. Brought up climate change. Do
John C Dvorak: you mind if I good I got some climate change
clips. I'll start it off with
Adam Curry: the latest climate change. This
Unknown: is what Asia's most powerful storm so far this year
looks like, maximum sustained winds in excess of 230
kilometers per hour, battered southern China, damaging
everything in its path, from buildings to trees, at least two
people were killed and dozens injured in Hainan province,
hundreds of 1000s of homes were left without power. Transport
links were suspended, schools closed and millions of people
were told to avoid going out. Yagi has doubled in strength
from tropical storm to super typhoon since it hit the
Philippines earlier this week, killing more than a dozen people
there a super typhoon has the same damaging effects as a
category five hurricane. China, Vietnam and Laos are all in its
path. Scientists say Typhoons are becoming stronger and more
frequent as a result of warmer ocean temperatures,
due to climate change, due to climate change. There
Adam Curry: it is, due to climate change. It's all climate
change. Everything is climate change. It's all climate change.
You know, of course, we have some kind I've
John C Dvorak: never had a super typhoon before. I was in Taiwan
once during a typhoon. It was interesting.
Adam Curry: Okay, John, so
John C Dvorak: I went to a to a department store who would do
some shopping, and as this thing was coming in before I get back
to the hotel, and I've never had this quite this experience
before, but it started raining. So you couldn't it was like, the
rain was like, it's like a like, a Deep Fog. You couldn't see
five feet in front of you and you, but you had to make a run
for it to get to a taxi to get out of there. And one step, I
can still remember this one step into. It to get out of the store
soaked from head to foot in like one second, shoes ruined just
instantly. And it's just quite fascinating to get that wet that
fast. It's like jumping into a pool. And did people
Adam Curry: point at you and say, due to climate change?
John C Dvorak: No, everybody Yes. They always say, climate
change. A lot of broken umbrellas. Let's put it that
way.
Adam Curry: Oh, that'll happen. So I guess the western part of
the southwestern part of the United States, we got Arizona.
We have Los Angeles, the heat dome moved over there, also
known as summer in Texas. In Texas, it's been written. How
about that? We were, we've been in Mexico. It's been pretty.
It's very humid, but it's been 84 degrees. You know, it's nice.
It's beautiful Hawaii weather, yeah, and a Texas, 7274 rain,
cold for Texas, for the hill country, the heart of Texas. So
I don't know how the averages work, but you've obviously got
to know it's the
Unknown: hottest year on record, likely to hit 108 degrees today
in Phoenix Arizona tomorrow and the next day. Nothing.
Adam Curry: It's that's, that's low for Phoenix Arizona. Phoenix
John C Dvorak: Arizona, in the summer like now, and it's, it's
unbelievably hot, and it would, yeah, you can't even get back
into your car if you, if you have to leave it outside, you
can't get back into it. You have to take your key. You have to
try to open the door with like, a napkin or so. You have need
something, because you burn your hand on the door handle. You get
the door open, you you reach and turn your put the key into the
ignition. Anyone in Arizona knows this, put the key in
addition to start up the car and turn on the air conditioner and
wait five to 10 minutes before
Adam Curry: getting in, before getting in and and this is where
us being somewhat uh, older, or, as they say in Mexico, Anejo,
she's
John C Dvorak: also the name of a age tequila. Well,
Adam Curry: that's why I brought it up. Anejo aged. We like a
fine age tequila. We know that this is nothing new. I've been
to Arizona as a kid. It was hot. I've been to Nevada. We as kids,
we went to, I remember our parents, oh, you're in Vegas. I
don't remember why, but it must have been nine, so a good 51
years ago. And we literally did the old, oh, let's, let's boil
an egg, let's fry an egg on the pavement. And it worked. You
know, it's so anyway, it's horrible. It's 108 in Phoenix,
Arizona.
Unknown: This past Tuesday, Phoenix officially recorded a
record breaking 100 straight days of heat at or above 100
degrees Fahrenheit. And since the heat dome over the Southwest
has not budged, that record is likely to continue to go up.
Today will be 104 of one days of 100 degree weather, and more
than half of those days have been higher than 110 degrees.
Record breaking heat in recent years has also caused a record
number of heat related injuries, illnesses and deaths across the
globe. World Health Organization estimates that half a million
people worldwide die from heat related causes each year here in
the United States, hospitals have seen the cut. In the
country, have seen dramatic increases in heat injuries like
severe burns from Sun baked pavement and metal heat related
delirium and heat stroke. So
Adam Curry: obviously, dramatic increases, the same as saying
50% increase over what we don't know. We don't know what the
baseline is, and we know that people who burn themselves on
the pavement are usually drug addicts who are passing out and
burning on the pavement. But doesn't matter. You know you're
just walking around and you burn yourself on the pavement. That's
the impression they give us. But you
Unknown: should know what happens to your body when it
exposes itself to extreme heat. What
Adam Curry: does your body do when it exposes itself to
extreme heat? Job,
John C Dvorak: well, usually the My body doesn't expose itself. I
have some some control over it, and and usually, usually sweats,
maybe, or it decides to go inside or find some shade. Does
Adam Curry: your body decide to do that?
John C Dvorak: You on its own. You've got a great
Unknown: body. The human body has evolved to maintain a core
temperature of about 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit, or 37
degrees Celsius. Our bodies are built with complex, effective
temperature regulation systems to try to help us handle
variable weather in extreme heat. Those temperature
regulation systems are hard at work. First, your body attempts
thermal regulation by moving blood flow outward toward the
surface of the skin the heart rate. Quickens blood vessels
dilate to release heat, the skin becomes flush, then your body
begins to sweat. Oh,
Adam Curry: wow. This he's explaining sweating. This is
great.
John C Dvorak: What kind of morons listen to this MSNBC
Adam Curry: viewers who think everything is due to climate
change. By the way, the same thing happens when you're in the
sauna,
Unknown: flush. Then your body begins to sweat. A sweat
evaporates. It carries HEAT off the body in an attempt to cool
it. But if it's really hot, especially if it's hot and
humid, these thermal regulation systems that we've developed
won't be enough. Oh
no. Go
Adam Curry: inside. Go inside. Quick.
Unknown: The heart will continue to be fast, putting strain on
cardiovascular systems. The skin will continue to sweat,
depleting your body of water and essential electrolytes. Oh,
I
need electro electrolytes. Electrolytes. Quick
dehydration will set
Adam Curry: in. Have a drink of water, maybe
Unknown: excessive sweating will cause an imbalance of fluids and
salts in the human system, muscles will cramp. They'll feel
weak. Your heart will keep working harder. The kidneys,
which help filter waste and manage fluid in your body,
become strained.
John C Dvorak: Wow, this
Adam Curry: is so good. I feel weak my kidneys, I don't what
should I do?
Unknown: As your body loses water, the volume of body in
your water decreases. So does your blood pressure? No, the
blood thickens as it loses moisture. The heart that has to
my
Adam Curry: blood is thickening. I'm slowing down. I don't think
I can make it inside for a drink of water. And harder
Unknown: to pump blood to the brain, because less brain to the
less blood to the brain means less oxygen to the brain, which
causes lightheadedness, confusion, dizziness, even
fainting, like our president, when unable to regulate your
body's core temperature rises rapidly. If your body's core
temperature nears 104 degrees, it reaches the threshold for
heat stroke, with that strain on the heart, on the brain, on the
kidneys and the liver. All that's happening now is that
your risk of organ failure has increased. My
Adam Curry: organs are failing, failing. If your
Unknown: body hits a core temperature of 107 degrees, Wow,
your body's proteins begin to break down. There is
irreversible vital organs, and usually comes death,
Adam Curry: death, oh, no, death, death is next. So this is
a very long lead into the Copernicus Institute, which is
this, this European, you know, they've now become the, the,
the, the, the official word on climate change and temperatures.
They're in the EU, funded by the EU and but everyone believes in
the Copernicus Institute, extreme
Unknown: heat is even deadlier than hurricanes, tornadoes and
floods combined. Really,
Adam Curry: I don't, I don't think that's blood through I
think
John C Dvorak: combined everything all dropped from
heat. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I have a feeling that more people die in
hurricanes and stuff. But
John C Dvorak: okay, statistician out there listening
to the show, we can get some numbers.
Unknown: Last year was the hottest here on record globally,
and this summer broke last year's record. Just yesterday,
the European Union's Copernicus climate change service reported
that summer 2024 was the hottest, most humid summer ever
recorded on Earth, ever on Earth. This summer, the Biden
administration announced a heat plan, an initiative to help
protect workers from excessive heat, as well as to fortify
communities across the country to handle extreme heat as it
becomes more common. Their plan includes cooling infrastructure
as well as heat information systems to help prepare and
protect people from the growing threat of extreme heat, all
supported by the National Weather Service, the EPA and
NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration,
supported by them. Meanwhile, as Trump and some Republicans in
Congress continue to deny the existence of human caused
climate change, the project 2025,
John C Dvorak: stop, stop, stop. He all of a sudden changes from
climate change the very at the very end, when condemning Trump,
yes to human caused climate change. Why nowhere in the
report so far has it been brought up that they believe
it's human caused? It's just climate change. It could be a
natural phenomenon. Could because of the sun, could
because of the 22 year Sun cycle. Could be sunspots. It
could be a lot of things, but now, because you're going to
condemn Trump, you slip it in as though that was the factor all
along. Very tricky.
Adam Curry: I would say climate change is caused by project 2025
that's what's going that's what's going on here. Meanwhile,
Unknown: as Trump and some Republicans in Congress continue
to deny the existence of human caused climate change, the
project 2025 blueprint for the next conservative administration
wants to gut the EPA. Wants to completely dismantle the.
Weather Service and Noah, oh,
Adam Curry: no, we won't know if there's climate change. Then
they
John C Dvorak: want to gut, if they want to eliminate, they
want to shut down the epic, I don't, I never
Adam Curry: heard this. Hello. It's in Project 25
John C Dvorak: oh, it's in that stupid project 2025. Thing that
they Yeah, that Trump never read, yes,
Adam Curry: exactly. That's what's going on.
John C Dvorak: Oh, well, I got a couple of things here I want to
play. One is the course we have to play this. This is a even
NTD, or which seems to be your favorite channel. Now that
you're stealing my material, you're
Adam Curry: stealing my material,
John C Dvorak: I just have to just have to just a little bitty
climate clip from man TD, and this is the feels like feels
like temperature. They're even doing it this
Unknown: week, the nation is bracing for a severe heat wave
with extreme temperatures anticipated to affect 32 major
cities. Some areas are expected to exceed 105 degrees starting
Wednesday, a heat advisory has been issued for South Florida,
including Miami, Dade Broward and the Florida Keys were, feels
like temperatures could soar to 110 degrees Wednesday afternoon
feels
Adam Curry: like temperatures.
John C Dvorak: Feels like temperatures. You know, I've
been working with Horowitz for over a decade on the and he
lives in Florida, and I don't care, any Floridian will tell
you the same thing, the summers in Florida are miserable, yes.
So what else is new? Yeah. And anyway, and CNN report feels
like temperature.
Adam Curry: CNN reports it's early September. What should be
the busiest stretch of hurricane season. Forecasters predicted
this was going to be a bad one, storm after storm, the most
bullish forecasts on record in straight instead, the Atlantic
Ocean is enveloped in a rare and strange calm that has flummoxed
forecasters. And here's the
John C Dvorak: finish you read. I know if you're reading that,
but yeah, this is fascinating, because what's happened, and
this was reported. We didn't have any I didn't get any clips
of it, but about two weeks ago, they were wondering, Where's all
these damned hurricanes they're supposed to have? Yeah, and they
and the and the water is warmer than usual, and now they come up
with this bogus theory. They keep theorizing. Everything's
done in the pat you know, this old armchair quarterbacking
where, well, it must be this. It's the temperatures have
gotten so hot in the oceans that is confusing. The storms, they
can't form. I
Adam Curry: don't know what to do. I'm confused. I think we
actually predicted this was gonna this was gonna happen. I
think that maybe a few months back, oh, it's gonna be the
worst September ever. You watch climate change. It's gonna kill
so many people Florida, be on beyond watch horrible. I think
we even just out of principle, said, No, it's not gonna happen.
John C Dvorak: You got it right. Just out of principle, exactly
so full of it, yeah, that it doesn't take a genius to say,
Oh, that's not gonna happen. As
Adam Curry: an aviator, I can tell you that you can predict
what's going to happen in a certain area, like an airport.
Weather wise, you can do 24 hours, but really 12 hours, you
can predict that. You can't predict anything out further out
than that. So it's all horse crap. It really is. But this is,
this is the one man this. This is what they're going to use to
talk about, you know, this will be the reason for all these
mosquitoes. And, you know, all the horrible we're all dying
from all of these horrible triple equine you know, or was
it Eastern Equine Encephalitis? Yeah. I think actually have a,
yeah, I have, I have a clip, actually, of this West
Unknown: Nile virus, spread by mosquitoes, is now deadly in New
Jersey, the state health department New Jersey deaths
were older adults in Cumberland and Mercer counties.
Adam Curry: Of course, old people die all the time, from
from disease,
John C Dvorak: he died, please. New infection. Well, I get the
bird. I could
Adam Curry: Oh, you just okay. That's okay. You can you? Oh,
you have another play my
John C Dvorak: bird here's another one, same thing, bird
flu. This time, bird flu. Get you let bird flu out. Oh,
Unknown: I'm sorry. Health officials have identified a
person in Missouri sick with bird food, despite having no
known contact with animals, marks the first case of the
virus in the United States this year, not linked to farm work,
and appears Juliana Kim reports
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that a
person in Missouri was hospitalized and treated for
bird flu. Unlike other human cases, this patient has no
known. Exposure to a sick animal. Bird flu has been
spreading across farms in the United States since the spring.
So far, there have been 14 human cases of the virus, and nearly
all the patients had been linked to sick dairy cows or poultry.
The CDC says the Missouri patient has recovered and the
virus did not appear to have spread to close contacts, adding
that the risk of bird flu to the general public remains low.
Aside from Missouri, human cases have been reported in Texas,
Michigan and Colorado. So where
Adam Curry: do you get it from? This? To get it from another
person or a monkey?
John C Dvorak: Well, the way I see it, who cares? It's one guy
out of the blue who got bird flu? There are people getting
sick or getting shot, or there's all kinds of news around. This
is a non story. I'm going to make a prediction, trying to
make it a story. Well, of course, I'm
Adam Curry: going to make a prediction. The on deck for the
next solution for climate change will be roundabouts.
John C Dvorak: Roundabouts, yes, okay, you better explain that
one roundabouts
Adam Curry: in.
John C Dvorak: Oh, wait a minute. Let me guess, let me I
can, I guess? Yeah, go for it. You go round about, you know,
roundabout is the thing in the middle of you. They have these
in Berkeley, they put them in for no good reason. Climate.
What are we gonna do? We got four way stops. I don't know
what to do. So then they have the roundabouts, which are more
dangerous, and very few people know how to use them correctly
so, but they have them anyway. So they put one in. That's
because you go round and round and round, it creates a
whirlpool, a vortex, which will then change the weather patterns
and cause hurricanes and tornadoes in areas where they no
longer exist or they never have existed thus far. Well, yeah,
Adam Curry: no. First of all, it doesn't surprise me that
Berkeley has them, and I bet, if you look into it, Berkeley
probably had a study done that said people don't idle at
roundabouts. You see, you're not sitting there with your car
idling, idling, throwing greenhouse gasses into the air,
waiting for either a a four way stop, which is confusing, or for
a traffic light. Roundabouts will be the I'm telling you. You
can write it down on the book. Roundabouts are going to be the
next climate change solution.
John C Dvorak: Roundabouts, I find them incredibly annoying.
With that,
Adam Curry: I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the
morning to you, the man who put the sea in the kids from China,
say hello to my friend on the other end, the one the only Mr.
John.
John C Dvorak: The morning to you. Miss. The morning, all
ships to see boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in
the water, and all the Dames and nights out there.
Adam Curry: Hello. Hello there trolls. We have 21 let me count
the trolls for a second I was looking for 2101 this seems on
par. It seems pretty good, particularly for low for
vacation week. What was my what was the cotton gin? What was
the, what was the the peak? What was the, was the peak? I want
the peak was
John C Dvorak: we have one of our producers that's, that's
good. Cotton Gin
Adam Curry: does that? Yeah? Cotton gin? Yeah, cotton gin
hasn't posted it yet. He's probably looking right. He's
John C Dvorak: doing a statistical analysis of the flow
of the flow of roundabouts. He's got all these numbers. It's
like, here it is. He can. He sent me an email condemning me
for questioning his abilities. Well, cotton
Adam Curry: gin is the man 2215, he says
John C Dvorak: was that was the hot, slow. The pillow thing is
low,
Adam Curry: it's low, it's low. And we had a newsletter fail.
What happened?
John C Dvorak: I don't know I but I'm looking at alternative
news. You
Adam Curry: blame you blamed Linux. You said my Linux did it.
John C Dvorak: There is I got a long note. We have a bunch of
guys out there that know what they're doing. And he claims
that the Linux there's a couple of products that Linux servers
use consistently that are spam blockers, and we get that our
sites keep coming up in them.
Adam Curry: That's because people report us. That's what
happens. That's how that's how it happens. Douchebags, you can
get off for what
John C Dvorak: being night, for telling the truth, for getting
to the bottom of things, or for condemning Democrats. Yeah,
there you go.
Adam Curry: I think that must be go. Look at who maintains Linux,
and we understand these trolls are listening in the troll room,
which you can join@trollroom.io or you can use a modern podcast
app, you know, the one that has transcriptions so you can read
along if you're in a foreign country and want to learn some
English and like, Oh, what is this word? Oh, it's good. I get
it because we speak clearly. As John pointed out earlier, by the
way, there was some incompatibility with something
with the fountain modern podcast that fountain for the live.
Show. Because the way it works is when we send out the batch
signal, all these modern podcast apps give you an alert. You tap
on the same place you get your podcast, and then you can listen
right away. And so it was crashing the app. Somehow we
fixed that. So if you were using that before and you bailed out
on us, on the on the last episode, just come back. It
works again. Podcast apps.com,
John C Dvorak: so it's a moving target. It is, it is, it's
Adam Curry: a moving target. But you know that's, that's why it's
worth a Nobel Peace Prize. I heard that this past week,
Spotify deplatformed an inordinate amount of episodes
and podcasts, and I'm getting a list.
John C Dvorak: What's an inordinate mean to you? 10, no,
100, 100 100
Adam Curry: I'd say 100 100 podcasts. That's a lot. And from
what I understand, most of it were, most of these podcasts
were political podcasts.
John C Dvorak: Oh, we'd be toast on that platform.
Adam Curry: You know, the we used to have couple, we're not
John C Dvorak: even really political. We're basically a
political it just so turns out, yeah, yes, that we condemn one
side more than the other. Although we condemn both sides
in
Adam Curry: this election, we certainly do. I mean, I mean,
look the demons. Yeah, when
John C Dvorak: you got some dipshit like Kamala Harris
running for president, people are voting for you. You gotta be
honest. Do you gotta be Oculus. You can't borderline nuts.
Adam Curry: You have to be honest with the people. That's
just, that's just the fact, we used to have a couple of guys
would upload the podcast to YouTube, you remember that? And
then put, you know, just an image in it. Some of them, I
think even, would put in extra images. Yeah, and they stopped
doing they said, you know, I'm getting strikes on my account.
Because some would, someone, would, you know, report, or
whatever reason they take down that episode, and then whoever
was doing that, their their account, would get a strike.
Yeah, so you can see that. So that shows that this is the only
place we are, the only place we can be as, and we don't have
video, so we're struggling over here, people we can't you know,
Linux is against our newsletter. I mean, you got to help us out
here. Doesn't hurt. And you know, what was I reading here?
So I already told you about the nine minutes of ads in front of
the LEX Friedman, oh, so would you consider only fans to be
kind of like value for value?
Unknown: Yeah, I would. Did you hear their numbers?
John C Dvorak: Oh, there, I can't. You're gonna make me
nauseous if you tell me their numbers. I know. I mean, I had
Dana Brunetti wife. Is on onlyfans. No, she's a, she's a
entertainment lawyer. Oh, no, and she the inherit the she's an
heiress to the Bijan fashion fortune.
Unknown: Oh, can she? Can she get me a bag? She, you know, she
John C Dvorak: can't even get me a sweater.
Okay, wait, Alex. Alex is her name.
Unknown: I can just see you in a Bijou sweater.
John C Dvorak: So she's, it's Bijon, I think, whatever. And
she's an entertainment lawyer. And she just in passing,
mentioned to me about one of her clients who was having, you
know, an only fans client, person about their their never
mentioned who it was, but it's one of her clients. And she said
she'd made 10 million last year
Adam Curry: only fans revenue this past year, $7 billion
John C Dvorak: it's unbelievable. Maybe, meanwhile,
people bitch about sending us five bucks. Maybe we
Adam Curry: should, maybe we should turn on some cameras,
take off our shirts. You
John C Dvorak: know, my pay off. You never know. You can be
Adam Curry: in the troll room, like, flip your hair. Adam,
okay, no problem. Yeah, I'll do anything at this point.
John C Dvorak: No, yeah, and I'm sure that the ten million girl,
I'm assuming it's a girl, is not the top earner.
Unknown: Oh, no, I'm
John C Dvorak: sure there's I didn't I should ask Alex about
this. But she probably, because she's been into it enough, she
probably knows the top earners, probably 50, 60 million bucks.
Who knows? Well,
Adam Curry: maybe this is a year, maybe we can get some tips
on what to do, because we're doing something wrong.
John C Dvorak: We're not doing anything wrong and we're not
it's just as different type. But there's, there's some people
that have a an allure that we
Adam Curry: lack. Yes, yes. I think we lack several pieces of
allure. Was
John C Dvorak: two in particular, yes, exactly two are
allures that a lot of these girls have, yes, and I think
that accounts for a lot of it.
Adam Curry: Well, we know where the donations are going. The
going to only fans stop spending your money. They. Air, send
something to the best podcast in the universe.
John C Dvorak: You're not getting a date with those women.
Hello,
Adam Curry: John and Adam, however, will come to clean your
house. No problem whatsoever. Instead, we have opted for a
true value for value, mug club media. The future of media is
small people, that's that's how you know. I really believe that.
I think that, you know, you'll have these just pockets, little
pockets of entertainment, and people support them. And I'm
happy with, in general, happy with the support we get. I know
you're never happy, but I'm happy with the support we get.
No, you can't be. I'm amazed. I'm amazed that people support
John C Dvorak: us at all. Yeah, you're, you're shocked.
Sometimes
Adam Curry: I am like, What? What? What this is actually,
still, hey, it'll be when is October, right? Isn't it coming
up
John C Dvorak: the end of October is our anniversary. But
we have before the at the end of this month, we're having our
show 1700 Wow. And that'll be,
Adam Curry: Oh, that's right, it's a seven episodes away. Oh,
that is the end. Yeah, it's
John C Dvorak: coming right up,
Adam Curry: though. So we have 1700 and our 17 year
anniversary. Is that what kind of, what kind of
John C Dvorak: one two punch we usually get some money for
during this period? Is not today, necessarily, but we get
some money. Is
Adam Curry: 17 a particular stone? Or is it a?
John C Dvorak: Is it a stone?
Adam Curry: Yeah, like a diamond, Ruby, or is it a,
John C Dvorak: you know, the book of knowledge? Who answered
this question? I don't have 17, but somebody, somebody in the in
the troll room, the few people that are there, one of them
should know what the 17th anniversary stone is. I'd
Adam Curry: like to know. I am indeed quite interested. The 17
whole would be my
Unknown: guess. Kidney No, that
Adam Curry: doesn't sound right. Kid, no,
John C Dvorak: kidney stone is not that'd be good. Interesting
ring, though I like
Adam Curry: it is a prime number, though 17 is a prime
number. So that's, that's, that's, there's something there
John C Dvorak: that is a, that's a big deal. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Caroline. What Caroline? Carnelian, carnelian,
or Carnelian
John C Dvorak: Carnelian? Yeah, Carnelian. Those are the little
red stones. They actually have met the beaches over here in San
Francisco, San Francisco in the off the peninsula, not the
peninsula, but Marin County beaches have Cornelius in the
sand that you can pick up as
Adam Curry: you walk along. So it's not a very valuable stone,
is what you're telling Not really. None
John C Dvorak: of it's just sitting there. It's pretty
though.
Adam Curry: So the way it works, and you've already heard some
boots on the ground, and we have people we can call upon who help
us, because if there's one thing about the best podcasting
universe, we have more and better producers than any other
media outlet known to man. That's why we can say in the
universe and everywhere, somebody has some special
knowledge about that one thing. And I think we've successfully
trained people that they are producers, not listeners, and
they need to support us with their time with their talent or
with their treasure. And part of that is, of course, our Dutch
masters who create artwork for every single new show. There was
a there was a guy who was looking for some logo work on
the podcasting 2.0 development group. And he says, Adam, I
really love, I really love the artwork you guys do. Who do you
use?
Unknown: Like, who do we use
John C Dvorak: listening to the show? You figure it out. It
really
Adam Curry: is, I send them a link to no agenda Art
generator.com which is where anyone who has talent or not at
all can upload art. And sometimes the no talents or just
the prompt jockeys win. And quite big actually, although I
was looking at the Latina actually asked me, Do you still
have the stats? Yeah, it's still nick the rat, Martin JJ, and
then comes Darren O'Neill, and those guys are still at the top
for all the episodes they did. And Nick uploads something from
time to time. Rarely he hasn't really hit it. And Martin JJ, is
he still alive? Is he still around? I don't see him any.
Yeah, he
John C Dvorak: posts on mastodon. Oh, he
Adam Curry: does. Yeah, he How do you know you're not on
mastodon? How do you know
John C Dvorak: this is so I'm referring back to the last time
it was on Mastodon, which was about a year ago, and he was
posting quite a bit. Okay, I guess I have him confused with
someone else, but I don't think so.
Adam Curry: I did hear from my birthday. I did hear from
pelker. So he's still around. Oh,
John C Dvorak: good as I wonder if he listens to the show. I
Adam Curry: think so. Well, maybe not. I don't know. I don't
know. Anyway, our
John C Dvorak: he found a new lady and she told him to stop
listening. As you think that was it. That's possible. That's
possible, very common. Yeah, guys that do anything that women
tell them to
Adam Curry: Yes, see, true fans, $7 billion
John C Dvorak: yes, perfect example, only fans, not true
fans. Man, there's not like true fans, though it'd be good. We
can start that. No, it's
Adam Curry: already a new podcast app, true fans. True
fans. FM, that's why it was on my brain. You saw it? Yeah, past
my brain. Yeah. We want to thank correct a record who has been
around for a long time, who brought us the artwork for
Episode 1692 we titled that one salted ducks, and we just
laughed at this one. It was Putin holding up some cash.
Yeah.
John C Dvorak: We normally don't like putting politicians into
the arts. We don't make that clear. So we don't have a bunch
of it happening. We
Adam Curry: don't. But this was funny. It made sense in context
of the of the tenant media scandal. And even had plastered
over there value for value. We like the use of the Russian, you
know, the Cyrillic kind of font. So
John C Dvorak: we chose it, yes, yeah, I think, I think that made
it full, full for Cyrillic Yes. Font worked at the top.
Adam Curry: There were a couple of other decent tries. There was
data did niet agenda, which had kind of an Uncle Sam puppet,
also with the faux Cyrillic font. Darren O'Neill did a, he
tried, tried a good job there with the podcaster vending
machine by a podcaster, but didn't quite hit home. Let me
see, Darren also did a free speech troll. No, the no Russian
money here, another corrector record, a couple of manosphears,
which were which were nice, but there was really nothing. It
just wasn't there was a comic strip blogger did a but insert
Russian money here, and again, he doesn't have the the prompt
skills that Darren O'Neill has, because the lettering just
doesn't look like it's actually on the jeans, yeah, you know.
And somehow Darren has figured that out. I don't know what he's
using. And by the way, we've
John C Dvorak: looked at his prompts, and it's like he's
really good. I mean, I think I don't know where I get the sense
that Darren first got a clue from comic strip blogger,
possibly, and then took it, took it in a new direction. God, it's
like having the it's a knack thing you get, you kind of get a
feeling for it, and you can just start throwing requests at the
AI, and its response correctly,
Adam Curry: open AI.
John C Dvorak: It may also be, I don't know what he's using for a
system. There's so many of these
Adam Curry: now. Yeah, there are. Well open AI is now
discussing their new pricing model for their next this is
going to be the the large language model that really
works, the really, really good one this time. It'll really,
really, really, really work. Do you know what they're going to
charge per month?
John C Dvorak: $100 $2,000
Adam Curry: why? What? Yep, yeah, for, I think it's called
Strawberry. Is there next? The next release?
John C Dvorak: Well, that's not gonna work. It'll finally
Adam Curry: make sense with the amount of investment that's gone
into it. Yes. The the new reasoning focused LLM dubbed
strawberry, and a new flagship LLM called Orion. It's finally
gonna work. You can alert Andrew Horowitz. He loves this stuff.
It. It tells him exactly what to do in the market,
John C Dvorak: and I'll bet it's so accurate at picking stocks.
Yes,
Adam Curry: he won't have to go to work anymore. This beautiful
anyway. Thank you very much. Correct a record, but thank you
to all of our artists, all of them, just like correct a
record, art masters Dutch fine and Masters of Fine Art. And you
can join that Legion by going to no agenda, artgenerator.com,
create an account if you don't have one, upload it. You know,
we look at everything and we appreciate and we'll be honest,
we're going to help you with your skills. So there people
have got roundy. Roundy went on to have an actual career with
his artistic skills, and he had at least when he left, he
attributed some of that to our critique of his work. And now he
works good, yes, now he works for daily wire. He does well, I
think he started doing political illustration art, yeah. And now
he's doing video stuff. Hey, he's got quite a career over
there.
John C Dvorak: Spunk, so good for him. He's a talented guy. I
actually prefer his fine art. But
Adam Curry: yeah, I miss him. Do all this. I miss him as long as
he's, you know, once he went over there, yeah, he
John C Dvorak: wasn't, he was he, he, when he was doing stuff
for the show, it was like, let me get a couple of wins here,
and I'm out.
Adam Curry: See ya. See you later, boys. Yeah, you know
exactly, see a boys done.
John C Dvorak: I'm out. We
Adam Curry: also like to thank all of the producers who sent us
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John C Dvorak: I hope you should get off. I'm gonna
Adam Curry: stop. I'm gonna stop it. That was the last time it
just flows so nicely. But get off. No, it doesn't okay. But
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John C Dvorak: exactly,
Adam Curry: sounds like an alias to me, Tony Fitzpatrick from
Tony from fryingbach, $1,000 but no note,
John C Dvorak: yeah, it's Swiss intelligence. I
Adam Curry: hope well for that, Swiss intelligence, you get a
double up karma. Thank you very much.
Unknown: You've got karma.
John C Dvorak: Then we roll up on Susan, Dame Susan of the salt
salner, s, o, l, D, N, E, R, wheel. I don't know what quite
what that means. I don't know either, but she is Dame Susan
from McKinney, Texas, $100.04 and she wrote a note in with a
check. Love the show. How about some karma for the family?
Thanks for all the thanks and all the best. Dame Susan of the
salner wheels, yes, here you go. Thank
Unknown: you very sweet. You've got karma.
Adam Curry: We moved to Sir JK, in Green Bay, Wisconsin. He's in
De Pere, Wisconsin, 333 dot 33 one of our favorite amounts. We
love all the threes. Thank you, John. And by the way, did you
notice all of a sudden, there's a video going around of all the
30 threes, 33 cases from the pandemic. Did you get tagged?
Yeah, I'm like, we, we were on this when it actually happened.
Now, people like, Wow. Have you seen this? Like,
John C Dvorak: yeah, we've been talking about 30 threes for
1515, years, minimum. You used to do a section on this show
called the magic number, yeah. And you would read the 33
references for about 10 minutes, and then it got such a to be
such a long segment, you just stopped doing it.
Adam Curry: But also we had boring we had super cuts and
everything during the pandemic. Manners. Just
John C Dvorak: be pre pandemic with this, doing it forever.
We're all over it. But no, we, of course, we, we set the stage
for other people to take advantage of the situation. So
what are you gonna do that's all
Adam Curry: right. That's why we are the best podcast in the
universe. I
John C Dvorak: think some reason, well, that among other
things, sir.
Adam Curry: JK says, Thank you, John and Adam, I stepped away
for a bit, but I know it is time to come back. Too many 30 threes
telling me a donation was in order. Prosperity and abundance.
Karma will be greatly appreciated. I'm a casualty of
the recent economic downturn, as I was downsized back in July. So
I'd like a jingle rubbleizer plus an r2, d2, karma. Thank you
again. John Adam, for your dedication to media
deconstruction, love and let sir. JK in Green Bay, Night of
the entertaining kerfuffle
Unknown: India. Mike standby,
3333 3333 33
barbaliser out.
You've got karma,
John C Dvorak: sir. Harry Pilgrim, our buddy,
Fredericksburg, Virginia. He
Adam Curry: has been around with this show for a since the
original Hot Pockets tour. Harry Pilgrim, good
John C Dvorak: to hear you met him. Didn't you sure did the Hot
Pockets sure did the sad puppy would make all nights and Dames
step up and support the best podcast in the universe without
doing. Nations, the exit strategy is a no show. And JNK,
Sir Harry Pilgrim, Baron of massaponics, and the
Rappahannock, that's right,
Adam Curry: sir Corby, whoever that is, is in Hamilton, Ohio,
333. 33 weird. He says, things are getting weird. Really weird.
This does not count, by the way, towards our weird count. Love
the show. Sir Corby, thank you. Thank
John C Dvorak: you very much. Brother still stuck at six and
four. Now it's actually
Adam Curry: seven five the latest. Count, seven for me,
five for you.
John C Dvorak: Game, wind chimes, partridge in San Rafael,
California, 333 33 Yeah, we had a good, goodly number of 333.
Today. Nice, nice to see in the morning to you from the other
side of the San Francisco Bay, boots on the ground. Big Pharma
is at it again in California, trying to shut down compounding
pharmacies. I always thought they were already shut down in
California in a public hearing this Thursday, this California
State Board of Pharmacy, the BOP is proposing regulations to
block patient access to safe treatments like gluco
gluctathion, vitamin B 12, vitamin B 12. You just buy that
over the counter. What's the deal? And other infusions. I
guess it's because somebody wants to blend it together and
have mortar and pestle, heaven forbid. Nationwide, cancer is
the leading cause of death among firefighters. A glutathione is a
natural antioxidant that prevents cancer by repairing
cells damaged by pollution, stress and harmful chemicals.
I've
Adam Curry: heard about this from firefighters. They you,
they take it.
John C Dvorak: This is another, yeah, when you get there, you
fight, you're gonna get that that smoke has got to be nasty.
Just breathe any at any time, let alone over and over. This is
another facet of our war on compounding pharmacies, and
that's who makes these life saving treatments. I encourage
the no agenda nation to learn more@stopthebopp.com that's s,
t, O, P, the bop, bop.com. Sign the petition. Show up. Show up
at the hearing virtually, or whatever you can do to help us
fight back. Demand better for our courageous firefighters.
Let's stop the bop. Okay,
Adam Curry: that was good point. I'm all in Up next we have, we
have here. We have Kenny Stevens, who sent in a note, hi,
$300 Hi, hi, just Hi, my daughter, Allison, who listens
to your show, asked me to listen. I am a loyal listener,
and sometimes listen to your show multiple times. Is that
each episode?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think that's what he means. Some
people listen to the show more than once the same show. Living
Adam Curry: in the blue state of Rhode Island, my vote never
really means anything, but I do donate to various races outside
my state enclosed find my check for $300 we appreciate the
checks, by the way, this underappreciated form of people
in other countries laugh at our check system. No, these stupid
Americans, they still use paper checks.
John C Dvorak: I know, let's go digital. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I think paper checks are fantastic. I love them.
John C Dvorak: It's a small document that that promises a
bunch of money to you via bank, as the check is a middle man.
It's a great way to go do business like
Adam Curry: It's like printing your own money. It's a very
powerful feeling. I like it when, when you sign a check,
here you go. I promise you this money in close by my check is
$300 regards, Kenny Stevens an alias. All right, Kenny, thank
you very much. Appreciate it. Appreciate the check in
John C Dvorak: Rhode Island. He has to be an alias. House.
You're not a Democrat.
Unknown: You're dead.
John C Dvorak: Sir, sir. Tooth Fairy in Valparaiso, Indiana.
Happy eighth birthday to my wonderful human resource, Layla.
Please add her to the list she's added and give her a biscuit.
Unknown: They always give me a biscuit on my birthday, and
John C Dvorak: he came in with $223 or tooth fairy, $200.02
Adam Curry: a palindrome. Austin McCullough from Hudson,
Wisconsin. Refer to email. Hashtag, rates, 101, I looked.
I'm sure you looked. I did you receive an email? No, I hate it
when that happens. Well,
John C Dvorak: let me take one more look. I never looked under
right? So you want it so you can
Adam Curry: send that to notes, N, O, T, E, S, notes at No.
Agenda show.net, by the way, while you're at it, go to no
agenda show.net, if you just and you can send people. To that. If
you just want them to learn about the show, there's a lot of
good stuff there that takes a lot of the podcasting, 2.0
elements, chapters, transcripts, it's all there. It's a very
John C Dvorak: similar title. Under that title, no, no, I'd
Adam Curry: look too. So resend it to us. We'll make good if we
need to. Austin. Thank you very much, and we might as well like
give them a double up karma. Then for the lost note, you've
got karma.
John C Dvorak: And there we go. Linda Lou packin from Lakewood,
Colorado, jobs karma is what she wants. And she says, For a
competitive edge, go to imagemakers, inc.com, for all
your executive resume and job search needs, that's
imagemakers. Inc, with the k.com or just find Linda Lou Duchess
of jobs and writer of resumes on the producer list,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
Adam Curry: And that wraps up our executive and Associate
Executive producers for Episode 1693 on our way to 1700 That'll
be exciting to celebrate 1700 episodes with you, John, 1700 we
were talking, we were talking about relationships the other
day. And like, that's funny, John and I don't really have a
relationship. We just, I guess we have a working relationship,
but
John C Dvorak: we just, we're we talk professionally, yes,
Adam Curry: but after, I mean, I've been with you in three
years, and remember, four more to go, I will have been with you
longer than any of my marriages.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's to be expected,
Adam Curry: and we never had a fight. It's beautiful. Thank you
to these executive and Associate Executive producers. Anybody can
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Unknown: our formula is this, we go out. We hit people in the
mouth. Shut
up. Slay. Shut up. Shut up. Slave,
shut up. Slave, shut up. All right, get
John C Dvorak: one international clip out of the way.
Adam Curry: Oh boy. International clip riots
John C Dvorak: in France. France the new prime minister.
Everyone's bent out of shape about this guy? Yes,
Adam Curry: is it France? New pm protests? Is that that would
Unknown: be itchy, angry demonstrators from the left
turned out across France to protest President Emmanuel
Macron decision to appoint a Conservative Prime Minister
rather than a candidate from among their ranks and Paris.
Eleanor Beardsley reports, while no party got a majority, the
leftist coalition got the most votes in a snap legislative
elections this summer. Voters on the left say they're the ones
who kept the far right from taking power. Yet their votes
are not being respected in the choice of the new prime
minister. They accused Macron of stealing the election. Macron's
choice was 70 year old Michel bounier, a veteran politician
who he sees as a steady hand for the country after divisive
elections. But protesters are demanding a prime minister from
the left and a political program that will begin with bringing
the retirement age back down to 62 they say their protests will
continue.
Adam Curry: Well, this is and actually, I have a follow on
clip to this, because I've been following this as well. This is
bull crap, because it was really the far right who got most of
the votes, but the left, the entire left and center said, Oh
no, we're not going to let you into govern we're going to all
be together. And even though we hate each other and can't decide
on anything, we just don't want you far right to run the
country. And so then, and then they go out and which, I think
this is actually a kind of a good choice
John C Dvorak: for the guy's pretty uh even keeled, yeah, I
think it's a good choice too.
Adam Curry: Yeah. I mean, he, by the way, far right is bull crap,
because this guy, actually, I have a who is Michel Barnier.
Clip. Who is
Unknown: Michel Barnier, France's new prime minister.
Michel Barnier is a member of the Republicans, a right wing
political party. The 73 year old is set to be the oldest Prime
Minister in modern France's Fifth Republic history,
replacing 34 year old Gabriel Ital, who was the youngest
Barnier, is a seasoned politician with a diverse
background as a foreign agriculture and Environment
Minister in numerous governments in the world of European
politics. However, he is better known for his former role as the
EU's Brexit negotiator, which earned him the nickname Monsieur
Brexit as Brussels top negotiator. Barnier made a name
for himself as a strong defender of EU institutions against the
UK's nationalist Brexit politicians like Boris Johnson
in 2021 however, there came a shift when Barnier ran for the
presidency against Macron, transitioning from a pro EU
politician to embracing a French nationalist stance. He advocated
for the superiority of French sovereignty over the EU,
offering to develop a non EU immigration policy. He also
opposed the powers of the European Court of Justice and
the European Court of Human Rights over the French states.
Barney's Republicans party only has 39 deputies out of 577 seats
in the National Assembly, and will need the support of far
right leader Marine Le Pen's national rally party Le Pen has
said she would wait for Bonnie's first policy speech in front of
Parliament to decide whether to back him. If she does, it would
be a far right backed government under Macron. Far Right. He has
long portrayed himself as the last defense against the rise of
Le Pen. The question is, has Macron handed the far right a
major win? Far Right,
Adam Curry: you know, the French should be delighted,
John C Dvorak: guys of he's a French guy. He's French. Yes,
he's for France. He's a, you know, the, yeah, he's a,
basically, a French guy.
Adam Curry: He they should be delighted. Should be delighted
with him. No,
John C Dvorak: they're the globalists, aren't they're they
hate, they hate the French, they hate the they hate all these
countries, they want to be one giant, you know Reich,
Adam Curry: exactly, and and if Trump wins, you're going to see
the same thing happen in the United States. You're going to
see the left nut jobs, the globalists come out and go
insane. I can guarantee it. There was always Trump doesn't
win, it's gonna be civil war. Now, if Trump wins, they're all
gonna go ape crap, or, I should say ape shit. Really
John C Dvorak: ape crap. I'm so show titles. I'm
Adam Curry: so used to saying crap instead of shit that I said
ape crap doesn't sound right. Don't you think
John C Dvorak: absolutely, there's no doubt about it, that
they're gonna kind of a replay of 2016 although it's gonna have
to change some of their strategies, because we're
getting sick of the old arguments. And the people that
are that are coming out, are the ones that I always retweeting.
Are they, you know, crazy looking people that are look
like women or guys. You don't even know what sex they are, and
they got the big nose rings right in the nostril, nothing
right in the middle. I want a cow.
Adam Curry: How many of those people do you really think there
are?
John C Dvorak: I don't think there's that many. No, but they
have a there's not a lot, but they have a high profile, and
then they're fun to mock. And there's a lot of teachers that
fall into that category, which is really a scary part. That's,
Adam Curry: it's that's distressing. Okay, I'm gonna
walk into your beat. I can't help it, but this is it. Is your
beat, and I'm taking it down to the depths you have not been
able to go before because Kristen Welker, who doesn't know
her for Meet the Press, I
John C Dvorak: was watching her this morning, and you did those
hands of hers. You're like an old black laborer. They're huge
and they're they're not made up at all. You know, you're
supposed to do hand makeup to lighten them up or something.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: it does yellow. They
John C Dvorak: don't do anything with their hands.
Adam Curry: We're looking at this purely from a television
production standpoint, yeah, yeah, obviously I don't care.
Well, I'm just making sure everybody but
John C Dvorak: it is distressing to watch it
Adam Curry: either don't use your hands or yellow. Her up,
was what John just said. Okay,
John C Dvorak: well, they yell her, they yellow her up, but
they don't do anything with their hands.
Adam Curry: I know which I, you know, I'm
John C Dvorak: very pale. So when they, when I was doing TV,
yeah, they would make me up your hands and do the same. I always,
you always tell them that you have to tell the makeup artist
to do it, because they rather not. But you tell them you get
through some of my hands because, because if you're, if
you're made up, and you're darkened up a little bit, and
then you lift your hand, it looks like a skeletal hand was
super white, you know. It doesn't work. And so, yeah, and
they make up ours always, oh yes, yes, yes, that's a good
idea, you know.
Adam Curry: And by the way, these days, I mean, a lot has
changed since we were in television, John, in fact, the
biggest change is we used to have blue screen. Now it's green
screen. People, that's how old we are. I remember when it was
blue screen,
John C Dvorak: but also screen was the original.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the original key, key color. But now,
nowadays they don't have pancake makeup. They have spray. It's a
spray on, and you just go and spray right on. So they could
easily spray the hands. It'll take 30 seconds, 30 seconds to
spray the hands. Anyway, yeah, so I am diving into a trend,
which you identified months and months ago. Ago as something
new, something that is probably well, that has always been the
question, is it even constitutional? And here's the
opening salvo, 54
Unknown: year old father, Colin gray faces 14 charges, including
four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of
second degree murder and eight counts of Cruelty to Children.
The director of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation saying
the father, quote, knowingly allowed his son to possess a
weapon. Law enforcement sources telling NBC News he gifted his
son an AR 15 style rifle after both of them were interviewed in
May of 2023 by the FBI in connection with threats to carry
out a school shooting. Colin Gray's arrest comes just months
after James and Jennifer Crumbley became the first
parents to be convicted for a school shooting committed by
their child. Their son killed four students in Oxford,
Michigan in 2021 so
Adam Curry: you identified this right away as a new trend, which
is lock the parents up for the things that the kids have done
and we've seen
John C Dvorak: and I to go further, I I believe it to be a
racist trend, because I think the long term target is the
black family.
Adam Curry: That's right, because about that, yes, I'd
forgotten
John C Dvorak: about this, and I believe this is just opening
salvos. So you can say, Well, we did it the whites, and now we
can do it the blacks, and they're going to go when they go
when they go after the black family, especially those single
moms who raise a bunch of kids that aren't are not well well
behaved. Let's put it that way. There. It's going to cause
issues, but they've got, they're going to, they're going to back
it up with it, doing it to the white families, at least one or
two more. Then, then you're going to see it happened, and
it's going to cause nothing but trouble.
Adam Curry: So of course, this was politicized. I'm actually
going to skip that. Joe Biden, you know, like, oh, it's guns in
America. JD, Vance, fact of life, got to arm this teachers.
We got to make sure no one to come to but more important and
more interesting to myself, you and the show is, how does this
work? How does this work? Legally? Danny,
Unknown: let me turn to you. The charges against the suspect's
father are unusual, but not unprecedented. What do you make
of them and put them into context for
Adam Curry: what say you for us, if
Unknown: you can, we're in a moment in American history where
it seems like there's a sea change for all of American
history, we have not held parents criminally responsible
for the crimes of their children unless they participate or
facilitate the crime. This is a major change in that we are
charging parents with murder, in this case, not intentional
murder. This is a version of reckless murder. Not all murder
statutes or crimes are intentional murder. Sometimes,
if you are reckless, you can be charged with depraved heart,
style murder, reckless murder, criminal negligence. And that's
exactly what's going on here. The father is being charged.
What
John C Dvorak: does this like? Reckless murder like when they
killed Garrett Weaver's up there in this compound, killed his
wife with a sniper, just FBI. Sniper just shot his wife who
had nothing to do with anything. He killed him dead.
Adam Curry: That was dog. That was law enforcement. But
standby.
John C Dvorak: It's different.
Adam Curry: It's different than whatever they want. Okay, it's
lawfare to the highest degree. It's coming up. That's
Unknown: exactly what's going on here. The father is being
charged with under Georgia law, you can be charged with second
degree murder as a result of Cruelty to Children. That's a
separate criminal statute that requires criminal negligence and
some kind of harm to a child. And that criminal negligence is
defined as essentially recklessness, consciously
disregarding a known risk, and that's where the FBI tape comes
in, because the government is going to use that to show that
he was aware of the risk well in advance and failed to act
properly. So
Adam Curry: I love this because the FBI did nothing. They failed
to act properly, but the parent is now to blame because they
failed to act properly, even though law enforcement was
called in, and this morning, I even read that the mother had
sent had called the school and said, you use like imminent
threat. So
Unknown: Danny, help us just break down some of these
charges, their second degree murder charges they're
apparently based on the Cruelty to Children charges break that
down with how they differ from the eight counts of Cruelty to
Children charges, he's being separately charged with Cruelty
to Children, but that particular section of the murder statute,
second degree murder requires a predicate of Cruelty to
Children. So while freestanding charge by itself, it is also the
predicate to second degree murder. It works like this.
Second degree murder is defined as, in this case, Cruelty to
Children, plus a death resulting from that Cruelty to Children.
Then you go to the cruelty statute, and that requires some
harm to a child. And. As a result of criminal negligence or
recklessness, and then you go to the definition of recklessness,
and that's what it is. It's consciously disregarding a known
risk. You're also going to need what's called proximate cause.
In other words, foreseeability. Was the criminal negligence here
not only the actual cause of the death, but was it foreseeable?
And that's a very interesting concept in the modern era,
because it now appears that, unlike most of American history,
modern juries may be willing to accept that it is foreseeable if
you have a troubled child and that child has access to a gun,
that a horrific school shooting may result. We may be in a new
era of criminal foreseeability. Criminal
Adam Curry: foreseeability. Wow,
John C Dvorak: pre crime, totally. Let's
Unknown: talk about this new era. Because, of course, the
crumblies in Michigan again, their son charged with a school
shooting as well, put all of this into context and that sea
change that we witnessed when the crumb leaves were convicted.
Yes, exactly, even though it's not precedential in the sense
that it's only a trial court in Michigan. And of course, this
case is in Georgia. It doesn't have legal precedent, but it
certainly is a spiritual precedent, in the sense that
prosecutors now watch the crumbly case they know they may
have to deal with a horrific school shooting in their
jurisdiction, and it is likely a form of inspiration. It is proof
that you can use a recklessness theory against a parent and
convict them. And it's important to note that not all states have
the same laws when it comes to securing firearms or locking
them up and keeping them away from children. That isn't
necessary. This is a straight criminal recklessness statute.
You could apply it to driving a car. You could apply it to
owning a firearm. So prosecutors will not be limited so much by
all these different statutes about keeping firearms locked
up. If they can show that there was recklessness, that a risk
was disregarded and it resulted in the death, they've got enough
to go forward.
Adam Curry: Can this also apply to your spouse? You know, it's
like, oh, Adam, always, yeah,
John C Dvorak: you could, you could go with this. I think this
is a trend. It's going to happen. And I'm actually, I'm
surprised the mom has who's a fentanyl or crackhead. I don't
know what. Something's wrong with her. They should have been
brought into the they're separated, so I guess I can.
It's gonna be harder to prove, but the mom should have been
arrested too. Seems to me, this is just this. How about how my
thoughts on this be began with a number of years ago, when when
it was announced that somebody who did a shooting, a similar
kind of shooting in Latvia or Lithuania or someplace like
that, and they immediately arrested the parents. It wasn't
even a second thought about it, I remember, and as soon as I
heard audio, this has got it. This is obvious. Is what you do.
It's an anti crime idea. How,
Adam Curry: how will that also apply to podcast partners? If
you just go eventually,
John C Dvorak: eventually, but it's years away. That's, I
wouldn't worry about it. We're getting there. Okay. Now
shooting any place you're the one to be shooting somewhat
place up in your what I'm saying is, armed to the teeth in Texas,
Adam Curry: you shouldn't worry about it. Is what you meant to
say. Don't worry about it for now. Yeah, I should worry about
it yet. Four more years, yet. Hang in there. Four more years.
Boeing continues to be in the news, this time with the
Starliner. It was
Unknown: just about midnight, Eastern Time, when starliners,
three main shoots lit up in the night sky over New Mexico.
Touchdown, Starliner is back on Earth,
a 10 day mission that turned into a three month stay at the
International Space Station. Coming to a partial conclusion,
it's
great to have the Starliner home. A safe and successful
landing was exactly what we wanted staying behind
on the station astronauts Butch Wilmore and Sonny Williams, who
this week, prepped their spaceship to return home empty.
Of
course, it's bittersweet to be packing up Starliner do the best
we can to make sure she's in good shape. So we want her to
have nice soft landing in the desert.
Starliner launched June 5 on a 10 day test flight, but helium
leaks and engine thruster problems have kept Williams and
Wilmore on the space station for 93 days, haunted by the Columbia
disaster that killed seven astronauts, NASA decided not to
risk putting the crew back on Starliner. NASA
has decided that Butch and Sunny will return with crew nine next
February, that
SpaceX crew nine mission will launch later this month, with
two astronauts rather than four, Williams and will Moore will
take the empty seats on return until then, running science
experiments and doing cardio and strength exercise. Is during
their extended stay on station, their 10 day mission now
extended to eight months.
Adam Curry: I There's a lot of great theories out there in the
conspiracy circles about this event. My favorite house, I
would like to hear a few. Oh, they're dead.
John C Dvorak: I think that's a bit much. Yeah, from
Adam Curry: their dead to they actually didn't go to space.
They were down in the oceans, working on a different project,
and they're trapped and they can't get out. There's a lot of
great theories out there. Is
John C Dvorak: that sounds like nothing, but fun. Yeah, I like
it. I would like to know if there is, assume that these are
all bull, bull crap, and they're not dead. They're stuck up
there. They're going to come back with the with the Elon Musk
device. The question that nobody's if I'm a journalist,
I'm asking this question, how much are they getting paid? Are
they getting overtime for being stuck in this because they're
supposed to go up and come back, and there are test pilots
working for Boeing. How is Boeing paying them like a bonus,
or because they don't seem to be complaining about it? Is they're
up in this, in the in the space station, they seem to be
running, you know, she's her hair is sticking out every which
way, and having a good time.
Adam Curry: You do in the fake space station, you make your
hair if you, if you
John C Dvorak: were, if you were in the station and you were
making hundreds of 1000s of dollars in overtime because
enough to pay you 24/7, which means there's time and a half,
double time, triple time, who knows what? Yeah, I'd be happy
to they don't complain. So. But does anyone ask this question,
and why don't they ask this question? Who? What compensation
are they getting financially for being stuck up there? For the
same
Adam Curry: reason, you're getting compensated as a
podcaster, instead of a journalist with the mainstream
John C Dvorak: identify, make more money as a podcaster than I
do, is the journalists don't make anything. Yeah, it just,
it's a pathetic industry. Is a pathetic business, and most of
the journalists, unless you're on network TV and you're making
millions, which is a rare group, most of the writers are just
starving to death,
Adam Curry: or they're the side hustles. As
John C Dvorak: another thing, the word side hustle bothers me.
Adam Curry: I brought it up for you, just to get you riled up. I
know that you hate that.
John C Dvorak: It's like a hustle means you're scamming. To
me, a Huss, I'm a hustler. I'm scamming somebody. So in other
words, you're working for a living and you've got a side
hustle, which means, to me, it means you're a criminal. It may,
if you someone says, I got a side hustle and do it as a side
hustle, I would say, then you're this is a criminal activity.
That's only thing. That's my definition of it a hustle, all
right. I mean, you don't have any pushback on me saying, No,
you're foolish crap. No,
Adam Curry: I'm with you. I think you're absolutely right
side hustle is, is a bad a bad term, I think so. Yeah, do you
okay? What would you prefer to be called? So we can address
this appropriate second
John C Dvorak: job. Second second job. Oh,
Adam Curry: it is weekend gig. There you go. Now, Boeing has
finally caught a break and not widely reported, so they've got
to step up. The PR boys,
Unknown: the world's biggest airlines, is canceling dozens of
flights over concerns about possible engine problems. Cathay
Pacific is inspecting its entire fleet of Airbus A 350s after
part of an engine failed on a flight from Hong Kong to Zurich,
the plane was forced to return to Hong Kong and landed safely.
Cathay Pacific says repair work is now underway across its
entire fleet of a 350s CNN, Hannah's Yadi is on the story
for us and Hannah Cathay Pacific now making repairs as it
inspects these models. How concerned should consumers and
other airlines be at this point that this could be a wider
issue? Speaking,
it's unclear at this stage. I think the answer to that is that
there are some concerns. And clearly several other airlines
fly a 350s and have you know, engines that could have this
issue. Qatar is among them, Etihad, British, airways,
Virgin, Atlantic. Rolls Royce, which is the engine maker that
makes the engines on these planes, has said that it's
keeping airlines fully informed of developments, but hasn't yet
told airlines to stop flying the planes. As far as we understand,
Rolls Royce hasn't commented on exactly what the issue is with
the engine. Reuters, citing people familiar with the matter,
said it relates to a fuel nozzle, which experts say is
generally less serious of a problem than the failure of a
major rotating part of the plane, such as a turbine blade.
But clearly this could be very. Disruptive for airlines, and
certainly, as you alluded to in the beginning, it has been very
disruptive for Cathay Pacific, which has had to cancel some 34
flights between Monday and Wednesday as it attends to this
problem.
Adam Curry: So not exactly an Airbus issue, but if I was
Boeing, not at all. But if I was Boeing, I'd be out there saying,
see their bus, no good, at least for the public, at least for the
public. The public, you know, there's no attention to
themselves, yeah, well, there's maybe they got enough problems
with it, with the dead astronauts, I hear you. It's a
real problem. And then this news, which is just not getting,
really, not really, getting the attention it deserves. Here's
the teaser. The
Unknown: FBI raided the homes
of several New York City Mayor Eric Adams top deputies federal
agencies electronic devices from the police commissioner, the
school's chancellor and two deputy mayors. None of the
officials have been charged with a crime. The raids come nearly a
year after federal agencies the mayor's electronic devices in a
federal corruption investigation involving alleged donations made
by Turkish officials to his campaign. So when
Adam Curry: I first saw this report come through, I thought
it was old and like, didn't that already happen? But this is a
continuation, and ABC this morning had had more details,
which kind of helps us a little bit in understanding what's
happening. This seems like a lot of nepotism and all kinds of
stuff going on here. The
Unknown: Queen's home of the city's Deputy Mayor of public
safety, Philip banks sits quiet. Thursday afternoon, shutters
drawn after the FBI conducted a search early Wednesday morning
and the Hamilton heights home of the first deputy mayor Sheena
Wright, another one of New York City Mayor Eric Adams closest
aides and friends also raided by the FBI. Wright shares a home
with her partner New York City Schools Chancellor David Banks,
Deputy Mayor banks brother. Sources say the FBI seized
evidence, including electronics, as part of an ongoing
investigation. Federal agents have previously raided the homes
of several other associates of Mayor Adams, who even turned
over his own electronic devices to the FBI last fall and
received his own subpoena last month.
The fact that these subpoenas and documents have been seized
the homes raid of people very close to the mayor should give
everyone pause, but it's a long stretch between people around
the mayor being subpoenaed and the mayor being in trouble. In
a statement, the mayor's chief counsel said, quote,
investigators have not indicated to us the mayor or his staff are
targets of any investigation. As a former member of law
enforcement, the mayor has repeatedly made clear that all
members of the team need to follow the law. A source says
the searches do not appear to be related to the long running
corruption investigation into whether Mayor Adams campaign
accepted donations from Turkey in exchange for favors.
Adam Curry: So this turkey thing is it keeps popping up. It's
only really been the most recent reports that they're talking
about it. I don't know what's going on. What I What is not
mentioned, and I think your your no agenda show should mention,
because it's unavoidable, is that all of those implicated are
so called black people, as mo would say, or people of color.
John C Dvorak: That's what he wouldn't say, No. He
Adam Curry: would say so called black people. Yeah, he
John C Dvorak: hates the term, of course, color.
Adam Curry: But there's something to be said about that.
In this case, this seems like a lot of nepotism going on in in
New York, and I know from the the New York,
John C Dvorak: wait a minute. Let's stop for a second, let me,
let me. You step back, you say, and try to comprehend the notion
that corruption exists in New York City.
Adam Curry: I know what's going on. I
John C Dvorak: don't know what to make of it.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but with Turkey, I mean, is that an
Erdogan thing is, I mean, there's a
John C Dvorak: lot this is like. This reminds me of the I don't
have a clip, but Kamala, they were talking about how she had
collected $350 million in small donations over the last month,
as opposed to Trump's 140 million old seems like a lot of
money, no matter who gets it and how, but this small donations
thing, which they then said was perfected by Obama, yeah, with
Chinese, this is, yes, this is a scam of some sort, and it's a
major one, but it's for it's like Saudi money or something
that's being laundered. Yeah, and comes in, filters in as
small donations. And I can't say it's Saudi money in particular.
Could be Chinese money, which I would be more it's probably more
likely. Or it's just it's slick, though it's a very slick
operation. There is no way that you're getting that kind of
money for Kamala Harris out of the blue, because they. For so
much I mean, just too much money. It's too much money,
Adam Curry: speaking of too much money, Elon Musk, I'm staying on
the beat. You know, the reason why I am staying on the Elon
beat, with his freedom of speech, is for this very simple
and again, you disagree with me, and that's the way it should be.
I just want to be the guy looking the other direction. You
never know. Everyone's very enamored with x. Loves it. It's
great. You you are. You are totally
John C Dvorak: a lot of people hate it. You're, you are, most
journalists in the Bay Area, for example, who are all part of Bay
age does something or other. Dot, mastodon. Dot, whatever.
Yeah, yeah, social, dot, yes, dot, mastodon. Dot, mastodon.
Yeah, it's, do I go there and I have an account on Mastodon
social, and I use it to follow the journalists or in the Bay
Area and elsewhere, yes. And they are the biggest haters of
the of the dead bird, as they like to call it the dead bird
site. And it's just they go on and on and on their psychopaths.
It's just like an embarrassment, right? But
Adam Curry: they're not doing the work. And I'm doing the work
here, and, Oh, and here's, here's the reason I'm doing the
work if, if a guy had 40,000 satellites circling the Earth,
had a brain chip company was responsible for ushering in
carbon credits and electric vehicles, and his name was Bill
Gates, everybody would hate him. But now it's Elon. Oh, it's
great. Then I, I'm not, I'm not all in on the brain chip. I, you
know, I quite I love Starlink, but I question,
John C Dvorak: you have a Starlink account, if I'm not
mistaken,
Adam Curry: I do as well. I said, I don't. I love Star
Starling. Well, I need it as a backup for the show. But I
question, what can you do with it? What is it? You know, you
John C Dvorak: have to, you don't, you can use 5g
Adam Curry: Yeah, I have, I have that as a backup as well. I have
two backups. Hello, this is an important show. I don't want to
be taken off. I got a generate, got a Jenny, and I got me a
Starlink and I got me a 5g so if there's ever a problem, the show
will continue.
John C Dvorak: No, but I would like us to use the 5g not the 5g
but they start. I don't want to use it for the show, but I want
to test it for the show to see that we see what the latency
seems like. Todd, if it and if it's reasonable, I'll get get
that as a second backup for myself. Well, I
Adam Curry: can tell you right away you should Todd from
blueberry. He does the new media show. He does video with with
Rob. Now they always argue about his video podcasting, his
YouTube podcast. So they argue about the same stuff over and
over again. But Todd runs blueberry. He's Todd's a good
guy. I'd like. He's been around. He's a knight. He's been around
for a long time. He's part of the decentralized hosting
infrastructure that is podcasting. He has been using
Starlink for his podcast to communicate with video through
zoom, I think they use for the past couple of weeks. And it's
the latency is almost undetectable.
John C Dvorak: Well, the guys up at the Canadians that we've both
done their podcast,
Adam Curry: yeah, the
John C Dvorak: what's the name of their podcast? I've done it
twice. We are horrible now, yeah, now we're, they're gonna
be mad at us.
Unknown: But Great America. Great Merrick gray America,
right? America? Use.
John C Dvorak: One of the guys uses. Thank you. Thank you, sir.
One of the guys uses the Starlink. And it's like,
transparent, yeah, you couldn't tell the difference. Now,
Adam Curry: I don't know how it would work with with Starlink on
both ends, because that would have to introduce, I would like
to test it. That has to introduce some latency. But
anyway, if the it was building, it was Bill Gates, who I be, we
all be suspicious. But now it's Elon Musk going like, oh, it's
Tony Stark, okay, so, so I noticed that during during
yesterday's, was it yesterday? Yes, yesterday's Independence
Day Rally for Brazil, there was a call from Bolsonaro and from
other people on the ground to protest the lack of free speech
in Brazil. And so, you know, there's a lot of videos out
there. They may be from previous demonstrations. I don't know
John C Dvorak: if I saw that one. It looked like Mardi Gras
to me. Yeah, I
Adam Curry: don't know if it was 10s of 1000s or hundreds. I
don't know. What I did see is, I saw a lot of free speech T
shirts with X preprinted on it, which means someone has boots on
the ground doing that. And I just have a couple of clips. I
couldn't get anything from the mainstream US media, so I had to
go to an old favorite, W, I O N,
Unknown: thank you for defending our freedom. Red banners and
praise. Of x as hundreds of supporters of former Brazilian
President Jair Bolsonaro hit streets. They demanded the
dismissal of justice Alexandra de Morais, who last week ordered
XP band in Brazil after the platform failed to comply with
orders to block some accounts accused of spreading fake news.
This after Bolsonaro urged Brazilians to avoid official
Independence Day parades and instead join him in Sao Paulo.
All right,
Adam Curry: so that doesn't really tell us anything. But
what was interesting is that Michael schellenberger went to
Brazil to specifically to make sure he protested the freedom of
speech in Brazil. Now, Shellenberger, what? Oh, yeah.
Unknown: Oh please. Well,
Adam Curry: you remember schellenberger was part of the
Westminster declaration.
Unknown: You remember this?
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah. That
Adam Curry: was that whole long list of Taibbi Shellenberger,
Jonathan Haidt, Steven Pinker, usual suspects, all the usual
suspects. And we found this to be very sketchy by itself. In
fact, as I'm reading through it, at least as I'm reading through
it again, the Westminster declaration says the legislature
in Germany and the Supreme Court in Brazil are criminalizing
political speech. So I'm still thinking that there's something
going on with Brazil that that a group of people wants to change.
And schellenberger actually gave me some information, and then
one of our outstanding producers came back with something that
fits in with it. So there's a huge population
Unknown: in Brazil. I imagine there's a lot of strong
feelings. Tell me about the protest tomorrow. What to
expect? Well, so
it's independent This is Brazil's independence day.
Tomorrow, there's going to be a huge protest demanding the
impeachment of this Supreme Court Justice named Ali Sanchez
Morice, demanding that the president of the Brazilian
Senate, Rodrigo Pacheco, start impeachment proceedings. The
number of senators supporting impeachment has been growing by
the day, and you're starting to now see people, you know,
newspapers that have been advocating for more censorship
online say, Hey, this is too much. This is really outrageous.
This is the kind of censorship that they saw during the
dictatorship in Brazil. So we're expecting to see hundreds of
1000s of people on the streets tomorrow demanding free speech,
which is guaranteed in the Brazilian Constitution.
Adam Curry: Ah, it's guaranteed in the Brazilian Constitution.
Yes. And one of our producers, Jose, checked in and said, Yes,
Brazil, Article Five, part four, the expression of thought is
free, but there's a little extra part there, and anonymity is
forbidden. Wouldn't that be interesting if Elon Musk could
have everybody say whatever they wanted on X but you couldn't do
it anonymously. This is something I've been tracking
with him for a long time. How many people have played paid for
the check mark? Once you pay, you're no longer anonymous. I
think that this could come come here as well. I've been saying
this for a long time.
John C Dvorak: A lot of people have been advocating for it.
Yeah, of
Adam Curry: course they are. They want it, but and this just
the final thoughts, just so you
John C Dvorak: can identify your enemy. Well,
Unknown: yes, the
Adam Curry: what came to mind is, what?
Unknown: What group
Adam Curry: is probably the greatest risk to the US dollar?
Unknown: What group
John C Dvorak: is the greatest Well, the
Adam Curry: greatest threat, greatest threat. What What group
poses the greatest threat to the US dollar.
John C Dvorak: Well, I would say, I would say this, the
bricks for one
Adam Curry: exactly the bricks, Brazil, India, Russia, China, we
already have Africa. Well, yes. And then Saudi Arabia is in
there, and Egypt is in there, yeah, but
John C Dvorak: the part of the bricks nomenclature, the S
stands for South Africa, yes,
Adam Curry: but Brazil is right at the front. I think, I think
there's groups, maybe within our US, government and and typical
to use Elon, because they use them for everything else who
want to bring the bricks to heel.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's, I think we've come to that
conclusion sometime back, right? But you can use this. These guys
out there doing what they're trying to do. It's like
ridiculous. Well, put up with this. You
Adam Curry: can use this as a wedge issue. Bring in the
republican from Florida.
Unknown: Let's get right to Congresswoman Maria Salazar, the
congresswoman serves on House Foreign Affairs. House Foreign
Affairs. Congressman, Salazar fled communism in Cuba with her
family. It's great to have you on. Wonderful to see you again.
Congresswoman, your reaction to Brazil banning Twitter? Oh,
very worrisome. And you know, where else up? Twitter has been
banned Iran and North Korea and China and Russia and Venezuela
and now in Brazil, the most important economy in the Western
Hemisphere after the United States. How embarrassing and how
worrisome. And why? Because Elon Musk is a Freedom Force that
they want to become socialist more and more. You have to
remember that the president of Brazil, Lula, was in jail for
two years. He was convicted to 12 years for corruption and
money laundering.
Adam Curry: Freedom Force, yep, I have no conclusion to this,
but I'm just saying there's forces, and is not a Freedom
Force is at work to do something with Brazil, just keeping my eye
on it.
John C Dvorak: Well, I I'm not going to dissuade you from
continuing this thread. Yes, but I Yes. BRICS is an issue that
has to be dealt with because we cannot afford to lose our
reserve currency status. Otherwise we would, the country
would be bankrupt. We'd be done,
Adam Curry: yeah? So, you know, it's one thing to have the NFL
there. It's another thing to to have them messing with our
currency. And this, this, this guy's no good, Lula's no good.
You know,
John C Dvorak: Lula is no good, yeah? So, you know, now he's a
socialist. The Brazilians bring these guys back and forth. It's
ridiculous. Another Yeah. I mean, every country, modern
country, has been doing this. We saw it. We see it in France with
the left wanting to take over the place and turn it to an
international operation. And Spain is always voting
communists in left and right. And they get good. Oh, they have
issues, yeah. And it just is a, this is a somebody, I forget it
was Kennedy or somebody says, you know, why don't we just let
the communists have their own party here in this country so we
can at least identify, did Kennedy say that? RFK, Kennedy
was one, yeah. RFK, Jr, that's funny. It would. It may have not
been him, but my voice is going because I'm talking about him.
Yeah, it was somebody who, who's important person, that had this
logical conclusion. And I kind of agree with that should have a
communist. You have a communist on the ticket, you know, yeah,
communist. And if you vote for him, you're an idiot, but at
least you can identify that they're there, and you can see
who voted for him. Not that it used to be spying on the public.
But, oh no, I have a funny this is my voice is great. I haven't
I do have to play this Alex Jones clip just as kind of an
inside goodness.
Adam Curry: Okay, so Alex, sorry, yeah, yeah, don't
John C Dvorak: play yet. Alex Jones was talking about this
latest thing going on, friend of the show. He is a friend of the
show. I like Alex Jones material generally, but he, you know, he
does, and he is very good about the last election and calling
people out who thought there was micro dots on the ballots.
Unknown: Uh. Thanks,
Adam Curry: pal. Remember,
John C Dvorak: remember, it was buchanic that was on his show
that was making this session. That's where it all started,
literally laughing at him on the show. So, uh, Alex has been
picked up on Eric Weinstein's latest thing, and he's got some
background information about the self replicating nanobots that
are in the shot, and it's killing your immune system. It
went on, I have no clips of that, yeah, because it was like,
this, such a sketchy assertion. Well, it came just,
Adam Curry: it came from a paper which was written by someone who
was not schooled in this particular area. I think it's
been debunked by now.
John C Dvorak: Well, it's a good topic of conversation for Alex
and his show. But meanwhile, he does a segment where he takes
letters to the editor go and he just reads them, and he then he
follows up. And so somebody wrote into him about his scream
and how it come. He's not using it much anymore, where he
screams. And so he does scream for the guy, but there was a lot
of background information, which I think we can all anticipate
before he does his scream. And this is nothing more than Alex
explaining his lousy his crazy sounding voice. And then he to
make it matters worse, he does his scream into the microphone
Unknown: first. I never took acting lessons or voice lessons.
I've screamed and yelled a lot, even without a bullhorn. And so
I've got stuff on my larynx, uh, polyps. I've been to an ear,
nose and eye doctor a couple times, and they said, well,
it'll take six weeks.
Adam Curry: Is it Ear, Nose and Throat? Doctor, yeah,
John C Dvorak: yes, it is.
Adam Curry: Eye doctor, oh,
Unknown: I've been to an ear, nose and eye doctor a couple
times, and they said, well, it'll take six weeks. You can't
really talk. You can take those polyps off, and you won't sound
like you're an 80 year old man. Smoke cigarettes, drinks
whiskey, but I just haven't done. And it's kind of
signature, so I'm leaving it there. I may have to do it at
some point if I keep screaming, because it's getting worse. But
I used to scream so loud out of demonstrations and stuff that
I'd cough up blood, no, a few times. So I like to do it. I
usually do it when I actually feel like doing it, but I'm
excited about it. You know, the country, the world waking up. So
let me fire it up and do it. That's a little one for you.
Adam Curry: And you got great pleasure from this.
John C Dvorak: I did. It's like he made said scream, and I
realized it's just, it's just a, it's, it's a, it's a shtick with
him. But he is blowing out his vulgar. Of course, there's no
doubt about and then he doesn't scream again. He should stop.
Adam Curry: I have two quick clips that'll be it for me for
our broadcast day. But of course, we have a great end of
show mixes, and we have the tip of the day coming up. So you
want to wait for that. This is the M 5m the legacy media
catching up to your no agenda show, which has been on this
beat for, I think, at least six months. Rob
Unknown: a West Suburban woman is talking to the i team about
how she sent almost $1 million to a scammer. And she's not
alone. The FBI estimates the scam known as pig butchering,
cost Americans nearly $4 billion last year alone. Think
Adam Curry: of all the money people could have saved if they
were listening to the no agenda show. We have warned people for
this. We have explained how it works. Even the name pig
butchering, and yet, $4 billion is gone. It's
John C Dvorak: unbelievable, yeah. And the thing is, the FBI.
I mean, where are where is it? Where is Elizabeth Warren?
Where's
Adam Curry: Warren? Where's
John C Dvorak: Warren? Elizabeth Warren and Rachel complain about
Rachel, and I still get calls. I get them once. I'm getting now,
mostly almost one after another is the oh, you've been paying
too much for your utility bill. You, you've overpaid you. We
want to give you a bunch of money and and discount your
utility bill by 35% press one to do for this offer. And of
course, I take it literally and press one and hang up, yeah,
because they're only asking me to press one, they're not asking
me to hang on the line. I have hung on the line a couple times
some some guy with a very thick bomb bay accent trying to
convince me that the local utility bill. I did. I just had
to give him my bank account
Adam Curry: cleared right up. But I got, actually, I got a
call yesterday while here from a 512, area code, which is Texas,
Austin and and the minute I heard it, I was like, oh,
because, yes, this is Sheriff's Office. Like, Oh, okay. And I
hung up, and it was, you remember that scam that they
pulled me into, tried to pull me into the sheriff's office, and
then I told you about this? Do you remember? Yeah, well, I
John C Dvorak: don't remember. It was,
Adam Curry: it was very convincing. They had police
radio gone in the background. Were transferring you, and then,
well, there's a warrant out for your arrest because you didn't
show up as a was the as a the stuff you've as a witness, a
specialist witness. What do you call it? You've been the expert
witness, expert witness. Thank you, expert witness. And because
you had signed that you would appear now you have to come down
to the station, and you have to pay a fine. It's three and a
half $1,000 and it was, it was sophisticated, wow, they
John C Dvorak: had me going five. I have not heard this one.
Adam Curry: Yeah, they had me going for a bit. And I'm like,
you know, I think I'm gonna call my lawyer. No, you can't hang
up. You have, we have a had another term like, stay. Oh,
there's, there's
John C Dvorak: your giveaway. Well,
Adam Curry: they wanted me to go to a kiosk and deposit the
money, like, Okay, gotcha. Oh
John C Dvorak: yeah, that's, that's that makes sense, gifts
or get a gift card for what? But
Adam Curry: what I'm gonna do is, when I, when we get home,
uh, tomorrow, I'm going to call them back and then pretend that
I fell for it. I'm gonna record it, see if I can get them to go
all the way through. They will not pick
John C Dvorak: up the phone.
Adam Curry: The first time they actually left a message at
7:59am and I didn't take it because walking the dog, and I
called him back and they picked up. So I might get lucky. Mike,
you might
John C Dvorak: get lucky. But I've had very little luck with
this. Yeah, the most recent one. I did have one of these the
second time. This is the second time it happened. I pick up the
phone and the voice on the other end goes, grandpa.
Adam Curry: Yeah, grandpa, yeah.
John C Dvorak: And I didn't, well, I've had this call before,
and this guy, I told, I just told this guy off. I said, What?
What du believe? Anything you have to say. And hung up on him.
I didn't have time for the call because I was doing clips. Oh,
man, I've had the call before. I don't have the, yes, I have to
record these space. If I ever get one of these again, I'll
try. Had to record it. But the I did go through it with what the
first guy and the guest is, grandpa. And I said, Yeah, who
is this? Theodore. Theodore? He never, no, they never get they
don't have a name. They don't have that tiny it could be
Theodore. Yeah. Well, Theodore is like, nine or eight, yeah.
And you're like, you're like, 50, oh, okay, and so it does.
The voices are no good. They don't. They don't using kids
voices. Well, they do. They're not using, I mean, voice
augmentation. Well, it just doesn't work. I don't see anyone
can fall for this crowd. You know, these days,
Adam Curry: all the Tina and the girls they have, they have
special code words in case someone calls with a Hey, Mom,
I'm in trouble. And they use AI to simulate the voice, which has
happened, or at least has been warnings about it, supposedly,
supposedly, you know, there's there's one. This is my, my last
clip. There's one other trend, which has been going on for a
while, but I never really paid much attention to it, mainly
because I don't have an iPhone. I haven't had an iPhone since
Apple screwed up USB on the Max and I got rid of all my Apple
products. You've never had an iPhone, as far as I know. You
don't have a phone. You have a you have some kind of China
phone, yeah, in the desk drawer an Android. It's an Android. You
don't have an iPhone. Yeah, of course it is. So one of the
features, by
John C Dvorak: the way, stop, I'm not dead set against these
phone. And I will say the foldable Samsung phone looks
very appealing that, you know, it's pretty and small, it's
dynamite. Yeah, but continue, yeah. But
Adam Curry: sorry, you know, it's $1,800 for that phone.
Yeah, no, forget. It Not gonna happen. And we had the the
Zoomer at at the house for 12 weeks. She's back now. She's
back in New York. She's healed. Everything went well. Thank you
for asking. And the I noticed there is, there's a trend that's
been going on for a long time. I just never really noticed it, of
location sharing. And I found a clip. Actually, someone sent me
this clip from Tiktok. It's obviously a setup. So it's not
like, Oh, this is a real Zoomer. You know, this is pretend, but
it does show you just a I find it to be a very disturbing,
lonely trend. Sorry, I'm late. There's
Unknown: literally so much traffic? Oh, that's interesting,
because I was tracking your location and you only left your
house 10 minutes ago. Wait, you have my location? Yeah, remember
you shared it with me six months ago when we were at that
concert. No, oh, my god, do you know if Kelly's back with her
ex? Because, like, I was tracking her on Find My Friends
last night, and she was in Brentwood, which is, like, where
her ex lives. And also, I have her ex's location too, and they
were together. What are you watching? I'm watching Find My
Friends. People are being crazy today. They're like, bobbing all
around the city. Sabrina flaked on dinner last week. She said
she didn't feel well. And I was like, well, that's odd, because
your location says you're at a different house. Find My Friends
more like, find the people who betrayed me. Do you just watch
that all day? I just like, love. Find My Friends, because it
makes me feel close. Like, to my friends. You know what I mean?
Like, I find my friends. In their locations where they
currently are. Kelly, where are you going? Girl, you're being
insane today. It's kind of like an invasion of privacy, don't
you think? No girl, don't go in there. No one I saw on my boss's
location that he was at a bar last night, which is like, okay,
weeknight drinking. Wait, you have your boss's location. Yeah,
yeah. I turned it on when I was on his phone. Does he know that?
He doesn't. He might not, not know that
Adam Curry: this is disturbing, this Find My Friends, track
their location, and it's
John C Dvorak: really I thought this was a an idea that I
cropped up. I remember writing about it, and I think it was in
PC Magazine. May have been before that, when I was an info
world, even where this idea had cropped up in Europe, it was
called something else, but you could track your friends, and it
was so, oh, yeah, this is great, because you can meet at the bar
and he's no look at they're at the same area, you know, here in
Amsterdam, this is a European product originally, and I always
thought it was just a stalkers delight, and I never thought it
would ever become legal, because I think it should be illegal.
But, yeah, it doesn't. This does not surprise me.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I just it's like, what? What is that about?
What? What? What is happening to people? They find it's so
necessary to share location with each other, so you can see where
your Is that like the most intimate type of friendship we
have these days, I'm really good friends with her. I'm sharing my
location. Well,
John C Dvorak: if anybody follows my location, they find
that I live in a drawer in my in my kitchen area. I'm
Unknown: gonna show my salad by donating to know agenda, Imagine
all the people who could do that
Adam Curry: drawer. That's right, everybody. We want to
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John C Dvorak: let's start with the dame, the dame and Baron of
Puget Sound in Sammamish, the suburb they're washing his
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York. Now these had boots on the he came in with 100 he has a
boots of ground, boots on the ground. Report, counterfeit
knockoff Street in Canal Street. Episode 1690 my wife and I
happened to find ourselves there earlier this week, and I can
report the counterfeit trade is alive and well. Good fun. Canal
Street. Yeah, sellers used to be mainly Chinese, that's right.
Who would entice you into their store? Now, not necessarily, but
if you go back far enough, they're on the street selling
this stuff. There weren't there were some guys that take it in
the back rooms, and you had to go into the back rooms to get
the high end Rolex clones. Yes, that's true. They've been
supplanted by hordes of newcomers from Africa. Oh,
Adam Curry: yes, the newcomers bringing gifts.
John C Dvorak: So, so there you have it. Uh, Omega Man in Las
Vegas, Nevada comes in, also with 100 bucks, and he has a
note that
Adam Curry: I he's in Bali. He's in Bali right now.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he says, You, your work is, this is a
note I'm reading because it's self promotional. Your work has
been, I'm being honest, transparent. Your work has been
a great inspiration to me. Now in my 14th year of podcasting,
eight from the island of Bali in Indonesia. Following you,
gentlemen, for many years, you have the greatest real news show
on the planet. I encourage everyone to support no agenda,
as there is no show like it.
Adam Curry: I think he has the most podcast episodes published.
Of any podcast, it's something in the 18,000 or something, and
he has a sub stack. Omega Man, dot sub stack.com. 11,000
there's 11,000 11,000 podcast, thank you. Omega Man, good work.
Brother
John C Dvorak: sir. Hand, sure hand in Trinidad, Colorado, 8438
I think that's the boobs donation with plus, yeah, it's a
boob here's another boob donation. That would be Aaron
Garona in grown G, R, o, e, n, e, in Mead. Nebraska, 3438 sir,
damn the man. 3438 another boob donation. There he is. Kevin
McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina. Does it right? 808
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Wheeler in Eldridge, Iowa, 808 without it today. Aaron wieberg
In Roberts, Wisconsin, 808 what's going on? Boobs. Robert
Umberger. Umberger in Langhorne, Pennsylvania, 808
Adam Curry: and a birthday for later birthday for Katie, you,
she's on the list.
John C Dvorak: And here we go. Robert Vincent in Mars,
Pennsylvania, with 808 that is a very strange phenomenon people
love. Brian Bryant, Keat, Keefe, Keef, K, E, F, E. In Sierra,
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boob guys today, sir, mainframe, Ventura, California, 64 Bruce
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Oh, should we come out as a douchebag? Yeah? David Cox,
double douchebag, yeah. David Cox in Austin, Texas, 6225 6325
JJ in Ennis, Texas, 6325
Adam Curry: these are birthdays. Birthday to you, yes. Thank you.
Appreciate it,
John C Dvorak: sir. Ron uh, 6229 Dame Elizabeth Gardner, Kansas,
62 and that's a birthday call to her husband. Fluff comment in
Ladysmith BC, Canada, uh, 6045 another birthday, wishing for
Adam and her husband. Mark Yes, 45 Kyle Baron of North Valley of
foxes in Wisconsin, 6011 grace and insurance. Aurora Cal of
Colorado. 6006 small boobs. Gregory kirdak In Padova, Italy.
Padawan, I think, is what we call it, Padova, Padova, 6001 we
need more Italian donors. Brian levacy, levesy live, see
Sacramento 60, sir Tigger, Max Vera, Dale, Washington. 60, uh,
Jennifer, five uh, fivey. I think it's five in Alberta,
Canada, 60. Philip Colborne in warramu, New South Wales,
Australia, 60, and he's got a bunch of eyes. There's something
sabotes, our buddy in Metairie, Louisiana. 60, 5809, uh. Les
Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, 58 Susan clay camp in Dacula,
Georgia. 5798 sir lineman in Anna, Illinois. 5678 Sir Not
Jake in Thompson, Connecticut. 5678 sir Glen in Raleigh, North
Carolina, 5510
Adam Curry: double
John C Dvorak: nickel, sir starty. BART fast, a hope Rhode
Island,
Adam Curry: I think it's for slaughter. Bart fest,
John C Dvorak: Florida. Bart fast, 54th that's who,
Adam Curry: memoriam of Francine the rat who passed today. Yes,
our literal pet. I'm sorry to hear that rats can be nice pets.
I had a pet ride once.
John C Dvorak: No, really, yeah.
Adam Curry: His name was Fred.
John C Dvorak: David Byrne is 5333 Mark Hardwick, I let that
slide by the way. Mark Hardwick in Alito, Texas, 5333
interesting. Roland. Vanden hor in Hollins, velgenes, I like
this.
Adam Curry: It's Rolin van der har in Holland. Felt 5272 my
husband, I recently discovered your podcast. We like it a lot.
Well, hello, duchies, thanks for bringing some common sense and
humor into our lives. Much appreciated. Take good care. We
hope to listen for many more episodes, four more years,
John C Dvorak: perpetually. Brittany Miller in Trinidad,
Colorado, 5272 Todd Lehigh in Riverton, Utah. These are all
5270 twos. I won't say the number anymore. This is actually
$50 donors, plus the numbers exactly, Manuel Medeiros and
Tracy Ernest parten in Westchester, Ohio, Paul DuBois
in kerhonkson, New York. You guys, is it me or you guys start
leaning away from your no agenda. Agenda Be that as it
may. I like I've listened before, I don't always agree the
analysis.
Adam Curry: He must be a Democrat. Totally,
John C Dvorak: uh. Carrie Bart, Bartel to 272 sane sans sains,
S, A, E, N, Z, cello studios, that's this, if you're a
cellist, go to in Houston, Texas, saying S, A, E, N, Z,
cello studios. It's
Adam Curry: gonna be a rush. It's gonna be a rush at the door
all the cellists, if
John C Dvorak: it's indeed, a cello studio, I don't know.
Could be an art guy who knows Boston ward in Millington,
CONNECTICUT, Connecticut, Tennessee, 5272 Baroness, Amy.
Baroness Amy in Jefferson, Wisconsin. And this is a
switcheroo to Baron John the fabulous
Adam Curry: today. Yeah. Love you, babe.
John C Dvorak: Josiah, Thomas Ankeny, Iowa, 51 and then we go
to the 50s actually. We start with Cole dial, who's in Farina,
Illinois. He does 5050, which is good. Stephen ray in Spokane,
Washington, 50. These are all 50s. Edward Missouri in Memphis,
Tennessee. Robertson home in Flint, Michigan. Ray Howard in
Kremlin, Colorado. James Walker Cole and harmony, Rhode Island.
Rhode Islanders.
Adam Curry: James says, Hi John Adam. This is James Cole using
my mom's computer. I'd like to call my mom out as a douchebag.
That's not very nice.
Unknown: Cute, though, yes, cute.
John C Dvorak: Love these kids. William Kidwell in Dover,
Delaware. George wushette, to Sir, George. He's been around
forever in La vernia, Texas. Eric Hoff in Edmonton, Alberta,
Canada. McDermott Connor in Salisbury, North Carolina. Megan
Duckworth in Jeffersonville, Georgia. Alex Salazar, yes,
Salazar, I
Unknown: think that's
John C Dvorak: right. Shaker Heights, Ohio, uh. Carrie
Jackson in walterton, Tennessee. Dame Rita in Sparks, Nevada. And
last on our list is Alex wenta in Manchester, Q town, New
Hampshire. That's our group of supporters for show 1693
Adam Curry: thank you all for hearing the call of the sad
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Unknown: You've got
Adam Curry: karma. Noah do the donations.com
and wishes her husband Mark a happy one. He turned 45 on the
sixth of September. Ross Reynolds turned 44 yesterday.
Baroness Amy says, Happy Birthday to Baron John the
fabulous His birthday is today. Show day. Dame Elizabeth, happy
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very happy one for the 11th. By the way, September 11 is coming
up. We're all talking about the big debate on the 10th. But man
the September 11, Since he'll be 22 sir. Tooth Fairy wishes his
human resource. Layla a very Happy eighth birthday. Robert
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Cliff custodian, the one and only. Neil Jones, turns 46 years
old today. Happy birthday, brother. Happy birthday from
everybody here, the best podcast in the universe, and we have
speaking of the man himself, cotton gin, Eric, as he's known,
Coakley, sir cotton gin. A cotton gin will become a knight.
Today, he's a layaway Knight. And he says, Happy Birthday,
Adam. My last donation puts me over the threshold for
knighthood. I would like to be named Sir cotton gin Knight of
the button pushers. And he is indeed a button pusher. He helps
out a lot with the stream, does a lot of good things for us,
sets up all the kinds of different IRC bots. He's a good
man. Thank you for your courage. Here's to another 60 years Eric,
aka cotton gin, and since he's the only one, we might as well
grab our blades right away. John, if you can get your blade
out for there's a cotton gin blade looking good. Hello,
cotton gin. Step on up. Thanks to your layaway knights support.
You actually reach status today, which means I am very proud to
pronounce the KD as Sir cotton gin. Night of the button pushers
for you. We have hookers and blow rent poison, Chardonnay,
cookies and vodka, warm beer and cold women, taquitos and
tequila. We've got harlots and Haldol, redheads and rye highs
rise. We've got organic macaroni and plasticizers. That's a big
favorite on the menu, along with that beer and blunts, we've got
rubenes, women and Rose geese, vodka, vanilla, bonhoetens and
bourbon sparkling sign on escorts, ginger ale, gerbils.
Press filter problem, and there it is, the mutton and Mead, sir,
cotton gin. Welcome to the round table. And while you're munching
out there on the mutton and Mead, go to no agenda rings.com
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Cotton
Unknown: Gin.
You let's
Adam Curry: see. I have no audio reports to play today, but we do
have a meetup taking place. Of course, it is the the monthly in
the in a tribal September Shindig. Of course it's this is
the September one. It happens once a month. It is underway at
the Prodigy Burger Bar in Indianapolis, Indiana. That's
mark and Maria of the Greenwood, who are hosting that. And they
will have a great meetup report for us by the next show. Also
the too many eggs.com meetup taking place today in Keene, New
Hampshire, at the yasho Jamaican grill in Keene, New Hampshire
coming up on the calendar, Kernersville, North Carolina,
Chattanooga, Tennessee. We've got Rohnert Park, California,
Garden City, Idaho, Fort Wayne, Indiana, San st, Augustine,
Florida, Tucson, Arizona, Charlotte, North Carolina,
Bedford, Texas st, Petersburg, Florida, San Diego, California,
Long Beach, California. Goose Creek, South Carolina,
Alpharetta, Georgia, Richard Richland, Washington, Tilburg,
the Netherlands. On the 28th Tulsa, Oklahoma, Fredericksburg,
Texas. October 18, Korean, the keeper will be there.
Okeechobee, Florida on the 20th Ottawa in Scandinavia,
Emeryville, oh on the second of November. Went to November
already, Sacramento, and. Looking forward to December West
Palm Beach, Florida. These are the no agenda meetups that you
can find at no agenda meetups.com. It's very it's a
good website you can check out, you know, search by location.
Also some meetup reports are put back up there. This. It is a
great way to get to know the community and the producers,
known as no agenda nation. Go to no agenda meetups.com if you
can't find one near you, start one yourself. It's easy and
always a party.
Unknown: Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights
and days you wouldn't be where everybody
feels the same.
Feels the same. It's like a party.
Adam Curry: Well, this is, uh disturbing. As far as I can
tell, both of us have one ISO each, hmm, which does not bode
well unless bodes well to me, you got a killer, then I'll go
first. Here's, I
John C Dvorak: don't have a no, just if I don't care. What
Adam Curry: do you mean? You don't care?
John C Dvorak: I mean, both of these are probably usable. I
don't like
Adam Curry: Well, here we go. That's so
Unknown: freaking unsafe.
Says, What's
John C Dvorak: that got to do with anything?
Adam Curry: Nothing. Let me try yours
Unknown: one day. It all makes sense. Wow. They're both
horrible.
John C Dvorak: Well, use one of the backups from one of the
previous shows. Last show, for example, has a bunch it had a
bunch of good ones. How
Adam Curry: about this one? Yeah,
Unknown: it is big. How
John C Dvorak: about that? Okay, fine.
Adam Curry: You sound so mad, bro. Hey everybody. It's time
for our end of show. Tip of the Day. It's John's corner, JC,
Unknown: and sometimes Adam,
Adam Curry: yeah, tip of the day time. We're all excited to hear
what you've got lined up for us, John, what is your tip of the
day? All
John C Dvorak: right? Well, these things cost about 12 bucks
or so, and this is a recommended dog walk. If people with dogs,
would you have a dog that's medium sized or a big dog? We
usually have a big dog in our family somewhere. I mean, he's
got a fee Fila brasilio, which is a huge, powerful dog. I
Adam Curry: got a big dog. I got a big dog.
John C Dvorak: Is that a big dog, really?
Adam Curry: Phoebe. Phoebe, she was 120 we got her down. Oh,
Unknown: that's a big dog, 99 but no,
Adam Curry: she was big dog. Then
John C Dvorak: you need this, okay, it's
Adam Curry: a tip. I'm excited.
John C Dvorak: You want a and you can look it up. They have
mid Amazon. There's a couple of brands there, but you look it
up, a bungee dog leash. The bungee dog leash, if you have a
big dog, or even a medium sized dog, if they lunge at something
you don't, doesn't pull your sock, your arm out of your you
know, your shoulder out of your socket. Yeah, it it absorbs the
initial lurch that a dog will do and brings it back. You know, to
normal, the bungee dog leash is one of the greatest products
that if you have a dog walking leash, get one of these things,
you'll never regret it. It's a fabulous product. Now,
Adam Curry: how, how far out does it? Does it extend? Well,
they
John C Dvorak: have a six foot. What about a couple feet, hmm. I
mean, it's not like the dog can go to somebody's throat, because
I have
Adam Curry: one of those that has a, like, a reel in it. So,
yeah, those
John C Dvorak: are no good.
Adam Curry: You want the bungee dog? Okay, all right. Well, you
know, this might be for Tina, because when she's walking the
dog, our dog has some PTSD because, you know, she's a
rescue from her tree line.
John C Dvorak: Tina will thank me profusely for this
recommendation of the bungee dog.
Adam Curry: I like it well, and I will have her send you a
personal note if she is that happy with the product.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and they're not expensive. So, all right,
there it is, everybody,
Adam Curry: your tip of the day. Holy, handy ideas, Batman,
Unknown: it's the tip of the day. There you go. There's
the guy. There you go. All
Adam Curry: right, everybody, thank you very much for being
with us once again, coming to you from the cruise ship,
capital of Mexico, just north of Puerto Vallarta. Are
John C Dvorak: you? Are there cruise ships out there that you
can see? Nope, nope. Well, some capital,
Adam Curry: no, it's on the other side. Can't see it coming
up next, though, we do have random thoughts, random
thoughts, the clueless collective, and we have two end
of show mixes. David keckka checks in as usual. The guy is
always checking in. Really appreciate that, David. We could
use more end of show mixes. So I rolled out a classic, which is
sir. Chris, sir. Chris Wilson would then. Alessi brothers
spoof of O Laurie, it is O Elon. So I'm sure you will enjoy that,
although John doesn't like the key that it's sung in. Coming to
you over the last time here from Mexico, I'll be back on Thursday
from home base in the morning. Everybody. I'm Adam curry,
John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley, which is the
home base. I'm John C Dvorak. We
Adam Curry: return on Thursday. Please join us for another three
hours of media deconstruction and remember us at no agenda
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I
Unknown: certainly see a position where the world's gonna
have to come together and create some rules around social media
platforms. And I think that's quite, quite what the answer is
and what the right system of regulation is, I'm not sure, but
I'm sure there should be, because hostility and hatred.
But I think we can't travel as we are. And I think the impact
on young people, particularly when they got access to mobile
phones, very young, and they're reading a lot of stuff and
receiving a lot of stuff.
Brazilian government and Elon Musk have been in a feud. It
began when a Brazilian judge Alexandra de Morales ordered
regulators to ban access the social media platform X after
Musk refused to appoint a legal representative in the country.
Millions of people in Brazil no longer have access to X. Used to
be known as Twitter. Brazil's Supreme Court blocked the social
media platform over the weekend after owner Elon Musk refused
court orders, including one to name a representative in the
country. People who do have access to x by VPN, they can
face 1000s of dollars in fines. Musk and a top justice on
Brazil's high court have been feuding for months over
disinformation on the platform.
I'd like to keep my check mark. It's about my if after all those
years of patriarchy, oh Obama. Look, here's the thing, Twitter
shouldn't be just left wing. I like to hide my racist views
from you with a handle that LARP so I can remain anonymous and
Hound those snarky snarks posting peppy means and playing
both extremes. My
kill alive puppy on Twitter spaces.
You go to trow is truly on blue, and those fingers are reeling.
Jump out of the future, which husband are you? A Mayan band
now, after tweeting big, massive dumps to Dunn Junior, after all,
my old accounts are uncovered, we love all you wanna do is
authenticate the groom. You
can tell it's real because it looks so fake, so fake, so fake.
You go to troll. It's
truly on blue, and those sphincters are reeling when he
has a
vision for Mars.
It's the right vision. And I think he can articulate
something really compelling, and I don't understand half of what
he's saying. We'll make this guy saying. I'm like this guy knows
what he's talking about. When he talks about moving equipment
into the atmosphere for less money, using reusable rockets,
when he talks about electric vehicles, he has absolutely no
vision here other than First Amendment blather. None of it
makes any sense. What does he want to kill a live puppy on
Twitter spaces? What is he talking about?
A kill a lime puppy. Don't shout out of the future.
Which husband are you so fake you
can tell it's real. Your
goal to travel is truly on the land the sphincters are reeling
so.
Adam Curry: Podcast is on universe.org/na,
Unknown: yeah, it is big. It.