1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,220 Adam Curry: He'll never shut it down here. He'll keep it rolling 2 00:00:02,220 --> 00:00:02,820 for us. 3 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:03,960 Unknown: Adam curry, 4 00:00:04,140 --> 00:00:05,460 John C Dvorak, Sunday, 5 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,760 Adam Curry: September 1. 2024 this is your award winning give 6 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,040 our nation media assassination Episode 1691 7 00:00:11,820 --> 00:00:13,680 Unknown: this is no agenda, 8 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:18,120 Adam Curry: not banned in Brazil, and broadcasting live 9 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,900 from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region, 10 00:00:20,900 --> 00:00:24,080 number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, and 11 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,600 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley, where I want to 12 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,040 say, let me be clear. Let me be clear. Happy birthday to Adam. 13 00:00:31,100 --> 00:00:35,300 I'm John C vorac. It's crack line buzzkill in the morning. 14 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,440 Adam Curry: Well, thank you. Did you? Did you? Did you not 15 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:40,840 respond to your invite. 16 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,100 John C Dvorak: What invite 17 00:00:44,380 --> 00:00:47,740 Adam Curry: you are on the list? Tina said you opened it. She had 18 00:00:47,740 --> 00:00:56,560 an open from you. Ah, that's interesting. So you read it, but 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,020 they didn't register my surprise party. 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,540 John C Dvorak: Well, congratulations, you didn't have 21 00:01:03,540 --> 00:01:05,340 a heart attack. That's a plus. No, I 22 00:01:05,340 --> 00:01:08,880 Adam Curry: did not it. Man, it's a little concerning when 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,520 your wife can actually keep something from you for two 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,740 months and I had no clue. 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,520 John C Dvorak: So you're telling me you're clueless, 26 00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:22,820 Adam Curry: completely clueless. But also the fact that Grand 27 00:01:22,820 --> 00:01:28,100 Duke Foley was there with his wife from California, Duke of 28 00:01:28,100 --> 00:01:31,100 Texas, Gene Rob, the constitutional lawyer, the 29 00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:33,800 former New York banker, and his wife, the blood diamond 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,920 smugglers, the international arms dealer, my full dental 31 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,420 team, Sir Mark Hall, Dame Christina Pearl, Charles the 32 00:01:40,420 --> 00:01:42,340 Lord King. I mean, it was 33 00:01:42,460 --> 00:01:44,620 John C Dvorak: Charles the Lord King. Yes, 34 00:01:45,820 --> 00:01:49,840 Adam Curry: Charles the Lord King. It was fantastic. It 35 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,620 really was It was great. I was very surprised, and I felt very 36 00:01:53,620 --> 00:01:56,200 loved John. And everyone wanted to know, is John here? Is John 37 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,920 here? And so I guess you didn't know 38 00:02:02,740 --> 00:02:09,600 John C Dvorak: it just did not fit into the schedule, like, if 39 00:02:09,660 --> 00:02:15,180 I felt it was not I got one evite thing, but most of the 40 00:02:15,180 --> 00:02:20,040 evite stuff gets put into the spam folder. Oh, yeah, okay, and 41 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,520 I didn't. I did open one, and then I never saw it again, and 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,380 then I kind of forgot about 43 00:02:28,340 --> 00:02:30,920 Adam Curry: it. I said, if John's coming, he'll probably 44 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:34,280 roll up just as we're leaving, and he'd be like, turn on. That 45 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,860 John C Dvorak: would probably be true, because I always get the 46 00:02:36,860 --> 00:02:42,100 time wrong. Skirt just happened once. 47 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,940 Adam Curry: Anyway, the keeper really earned her name. I've 48 00:02:48,940 --> 00:02:51,220 never had a surprise. Have you ever had a surprise party 49 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,840 throne? God, no, I never thought I would like it. But, man, I 50 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,580 sure did. I sure did. 51 00:02:57,940 --> 00:02:59,260 John C Dvorak: That was a lot of gifts 52 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,180 Adam Curry: I got outrageous. Amount. I mean, just that people 53 00:03:03,180 --> 00:03:06,600 showed up was fantastic. I got a lot of gifts. Well, let's 54 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,820 John C Dvorak: talk about it. What did you get? I got a 12 55 00:03:08,820 --> 00:03:12,720 Adam Curry: gage shotgun, short barrel home defense unit. That 56 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:18,240 was a good one. I got this amazing travel bag that's, I 57 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,100 John C Dvorak: think this shotgun says it all. That's 58 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,800 Adam Curry: from my brother, Vic, out from Dallas. Yeah, the 59 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,240 shotgun was right up there. No, I mean, just tons of gifts. I 60 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,180 mean, I can't even mention them all. I have to thank everybody 61 00:03:32,180 --> 00:03:35,240 saying, Oh, it's going to be my first day of vacation, which 62 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:40,240 I'll be working on leave tomorrow from that I thought 63 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:45,280 that was my gift, my my Birthday Trip. But no, this was good. It 64 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,580 was it was a Fredericksburg affair. We shut down six twists 65 00:03:48,580 --> 00:03:51,040 on Main Street, just for the 66 00:03:52,900 --> 00:03:53,860 Unknown: just for the party. 67 00:03:55,540 --> 00:03:57,580 Adam Curry: You were missed. Let me just say that you were 68 00:03:57,580 --> 00:04:01,140 missed. Well, I appreciate that. Yeah, you were missed. 69 00:04:01,740 --> 00:04:09,300 Meanwhile, back at home, we're not banned in Brazil yet. No, 70 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:15,780 can't ban us in Brazil. There's no way. We're on. We're on. 71 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,620 IPFS, man, there's no way they cannot stop us. We're 72 00:04:19,620 --> 00:04:24,560 unstoppable. It's all the podcasting. 2.0 stuff. Have you 73 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,800 been following this X band in Brazil, which is just an 74 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,960 outrage. It is an outrage. Yeah, really, is it really? Though, 75 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:35,780 John C Dvorak: what's the point? 76 00:04:37,220 --> 00:04:38,660 Adam Curry: Well, the point, well, 77 00:04:39,140 --> 00:04:40,720 John C Dvorak: I mean, the Brazilians. First of all, you 78 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,960 have to remember the Brazilians are the only ones who adopted 79 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,040 that Google. I can just about to remember the name of it, the 80 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,580 Google social network that was competing with Facebook back 81 00:04:51,580 --> 00:04:53,080 about 10 years ago. God, 82 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,840 Adam Curry: what was that called? It was quick jump. 83 00:04:56,620 --> 00:04:57,520 John C Dvorak: Quickly, 84 00:04:57,580 --> 00:04:58,780 Adam Curry: quick, quick jump. 85 00:04:58,780 --> 00:05:01,740 John C Dvorak: That's the news. Something crazy sounding uh, 86 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,560 Adam Curry: or cut, or cut or cut. 87 00:05:04,620 --> 00:05:06,660 John C Dvorak: Was it or cut? No or or cut? 88 00:05:06,780 --> 00:05:09,960 Adam Curry: Yeah, didn't they didn't they buy or cut. They, 89 00:05:10,020 --> 00:05:13,620 who's they? Google? Didn't Google buy something 90 00:05:13,740 --> 00:05:15,540 John C Dvorak: they started this was, I think there was an 91 00:05:15,540 --> 00:05:19,560 internal whatever the case was, it doesn't matter. It was hugely 92 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,180 popular in Brazil 93 00:05:21,300 --> 00:05:23,720 Adam Curry: that was, or that was, or cut it was popular with 94 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,880 the with the with the lady boys. 95 00:05:27,140 --> 00:05:31,160 John C Dvorak: Well, Brazilians, you have to remember, or have to 96 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,060 know, that they're extremely sociable. Yeah, it's probably 97 00:05:35,060 --> 00:05:39,020 the most sociable place I've ever been. And they'll throw a 98 00:05:39,020 --> 00:05:44,440 party for anything and and so their social networks, that 99 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:50,080 would be something they'd really fall into fast, but without but 100 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,780 it wouldn't prevent them from being normally sociable. It's 101 00:05:52,780 --> 00:05:55,600 not like here, where your son's stuck on the phone all the time, 102 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,920 like a teenage girl. It you don't talk to anybody, and you 103 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:03,960 just glued to the phone, right? That's a little different there. 104 00:06:04,620 --> 00:06:08,820 And so they're very concerned about any social media thing, 105 00:06:08,820 --> 00:06:10,800 because it could take over the country. Well, 106 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:15,480 Adam Curry: yeah, that's, I mean, they got that, right. So I 107 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,060 looked into the story, and there's a couple of interesting 108 00:06:18,060 --> 00:06:21,620 angles. Quick clip from Scandinavia, a Brazilian 109 00:06:21,620 --> 00:06:24,380 Unknown: Supreme Court judge has ordered the immediate suspension 110 00:06:24,380 --> 00:06:28,160 of the social media platform x in Brazil, meaning people there 111 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,240 can no longer access or use it. Ex owner, Elon Musk failed to 112 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,000 meet a deadline set by the court to name a new legal 113 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,240 representative in the country. The Brazilian court and musk 114 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,260 have been at odds for months, fighting over free speech and 115 00:06:41,260 --> 00:06:44,680 for x allowing far right accounts and misinformation on 116 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,460 the platform. The Supreme Court won't bring back the platform 117 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,180 until Musk complies with his orders and pays millions of 118 00:06:52,180 --> 00:06:55,720 dollars in fines. Musk was quick to react to this news, posting 119 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,960 on the platform overnight, attacking the judge that issued 120 00:06:58,960 --> 00:06:59,860 the suspension. 121 00:07:00,460 --> 00:07:03,300 Adam Curry: All right, so we have some details there. I had 122 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:06,240 to get everything from foreigners. Can't really get 123 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:11,460 anything useful from American M, 5m this is France, 24 with some 124 00:07:11,460 --> 00:07:12,420 other details. 125 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,600 Unknown: The Brazilian Supreme Court Judge Alessandra de Marais 126 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,080 has ordered the full and immediate suspension of Elon 127 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:23,780 Musk's social media platform x in Brazil. In his ruling, he 128 00:07:23,780 --> 00:07:27,860 condemned the owner of x, saying Elon Musk showed his total 129 00:07:27,860 --> 00:07:30,920 disrespect for Brazilian sovereignty, and in particular 130 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,860 for the judiciary setting himself up as a true 131 00:07:33,860 --> 00:07:38,240 supranational entity and immune to the laws of each country. The 132 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,560 judge on Wednesday said x in Brazil would be suspended if it 133 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,860 didn't respect a deadline to appoint a legal representative, 134 00:07:44,860 --> 00:07:49,420 as required by Brazilian law, that deadline was not respected. 135 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,180 The round between the judge and the tech billionaire has been 136 00:07:52,180 --> 00:07:55,360 simmering for months after X failed to comply with legal 137 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,660 orders to block certain accounts accused of spreading fake news 138 00:07:58,660 --> 00:08:03,120 and hate messages on his social media platform with a volley of 139 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,200 posts saying that, among other things, free speech is the 140 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,040 bedrock of democracy, and an unelected pseudo judge in Brazil 141 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,580 is destroying it for political purposes. In his post, he 142 00:08:14,580 --> 00:08:17,160 compares the judge to Lord Voldemort out of the Harry 143 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,120 Potter books. 144 00:08:19,620 --> 00:08:24,740 Adam Curry: So there's a lot of misinformation, hate speech, the 145 00:08:24,740 --> 00:08:29,360 bedrock of democracy, we need free speech. So I really it 146 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,960 seemed like they would just so the reason for the blocking, I 147 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,940 don't know if they blocked it, other than they turned off the 148 00:08:34,940 --> 00:08:39,380 electricity in Brazil for like, overnight. Oh, just got no 149 00:08:39,380 --> 00:08:42,520 electricity. So reboot your routers everybody while we 150 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,580 install some blocking software. Oh, that 151 00:08:45,580 --> 00:08:46,960 John C Dvorak: was your gag. No, no, 152 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:51,220 Adam Curry: no, no. The gag is really, is really. What's next? 153 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:57,280 John C Dvorak: I referred to the gag before the show. Oh, I had a 154 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,980 gag. Yeah, you said re Have you rebooted your 155 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,260 Adam Curry: router? Oh, no, only because a troll said that we're 156 00:09:04,260 --> 00:09:06,600 no longer saying, reboot your router. No, no, that had nothing 157 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,560 to do. It just came up again. So I wanted to know the sequence of 158 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:13,800 events. What actually happened is it just because of fake news 159 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,400 and misinformation and hate speech, and is Elon just 160 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,680 standing up for free speech because everyone needs us. We're 161 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:26,780 wired and Deutsche villa. Take it for what it's worth, because 162 00:09:26,780 --> 00:09:30,020 we know who feeds Deutsche Villa the information our own three 163 00:09:30,020 --> 00:09:35,120 letter agencies, they gave us some actual detail on the 164 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,720 accounts that they wanted blocked. And so this is not 165 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:45,640 atypical for for X, even we know that x blocked several accounts, 166 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,600 clearly for political reasons in Turkey at the behest of the 167 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,480 Turkish Government. And Elon said, Well, you know, I want to 168 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,920 keep operating there. It seems like this was kind of the same, 169 00:09:57,220 --> 00:10:01,080 but Elon just spun everybody all up over four. British bridge X 170 00:10:01,140 --> 00:10:04,080 Unknown: announced on X that it would not comply with the 171 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,780 court's instruction. Here's some of what this 172 00:10:06,780 --> 00:10:10,140 Adam Curry: is a Brazilian professor who is the guy's got 173 00:10:10,140 --> 00:10:11,340 on the horn here appeared 174 00:10:11,340 --> 00:10:15,420 Unknown: on the company's global affairs account today, soon, we 175 00:10:15,420 --> 00:10:19,200 expect judge Alexander demores will order x to be shut down in 176 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,880 Brazil simply because we would not comply with his illegal 177 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,300 orders to censor his political opponents. Now these enemies 178 00:10:26,300 --> 00:10:29,960 include a duly elected senator and a 16 year old girl, amongst 179 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,460 others. So Professor, what is Elon Musk referring to there? 180 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,580 He's referring to some of those investigations that I mentioned. 181 00:10:37,580 --> 00:10:41,320 So in this case, there was a senator who was using his 182 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,580 account to, for instance, incite the military against the 183 00:10:45,580 --> 00:10:49,360 civilian government. In the other case that he mentioned, a 184 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:54,040 profile of a young girl was used, apparently by her father, 185 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,960 to dox a police officer who was working in one of those 186 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,180 investigations. And so it was in that context that Justice more 187 00:11:03,180 --> 00:11:08,040 guys ordered the platform to bring those profiles down. But 188 00:11:08,100 --> 00:11:11,640 Mr. Musk, as I mentioned, is refusing to do that, and he's 189 00:11:11,940 --> 00:11:14,820 claiming that this is censorship, which I do not agree 190 00:11:14,820 --> 00:11:18,780 with, because, as I mentioned this, these decisions are being 191 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,780 adopted in the context of investigations that look into 192 00:11:23,780 --> 00:11:25,340 violation of Brazilian laws. 193 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,120 Adam Curry: Okay, so that's a little different story, and who 194 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,200 knows what's true. But as you said, you know, I'm sure they 195 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,820 wanted to stop some politician who was inciting the military to 196 00:11:37,820 --> 00:11:41,740 get out on the street, because that seems to work in Brazil and 197 00:11:41,740 --> 00:11:43,960 then doxing. I don't think that's cool under any 198 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,820 circumstance. So I, you know, I don't know. I'm, uh, I'm on the 199 00:11:48,820 --> 00:11:52,540 fence about this. It's certainly being played as Elon. He'll 200 00:11:52,540 --> 00:11:55,600 never shut it down here. He'll keep it rolling for us. We're 201 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,900 safe. We're safe. Don't worry. Please pay no attention to 202 00:11:58,900 --> 00:12:01,620 jacorino and her twin in the background, twiddling the dials. 203 00:12:02,700 --> 00:12:06,300 So I don't know. Man, I don't know. And I'm surprised that our 204 00:12:06,300 --> 00:12:11,880 own M, 5m didn't come out and say, Yeah, you know, just like, 205 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:18,060 uh, Trump was blocked for inciting an insurrection. So 206 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:18,480 yeah, 207 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,420 John C Dvorak: little iffy, little I don't know who is 208 00:12:20,420 --> 00:12:24,500 controlling the narrative here in our media regarding this, 209 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:26,540 it's not played well. Satan 210 00:12:26,540 --> 00:12:29,660 Adam Curry: is controlling the whole media. Come on. The media 211 00:12:29,660 --> 00:12:35,000 in America is, is it's just become tedious. It's so stupid 212 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,680 and boring. Well, it's actually, it's humorous for us, but for 213 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:43,600 people. I mean, are people still watching the M 5m I guess they 214 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:44,140 must be 215 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,340 John C Dvorak: the numbers. Are there? 216 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:46,720 Adam Curry: Something must mean 217 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,300 John C Dvorak: they're not what they used to be. No, you want to 218 00:12:49,300 --> 00:12:51,880 look at numbers. You go to a football game, you know? You see 219 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,140 some numbers? Yeah. 220 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,240 Adam Curry: That's why the Kelsey brothers are making so 221 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,860 much money, apparently. 222 00:12:59,980 --> 00:13:02,640 John C Dvorak: So I guess brothers 223 00:13:03,420 --> 00:13:06,660 Adam Curry: that, and, you know, he's, he's dating Taylor Swift. 224 00:13:06,660 --> 00:13:07,740 I'm sure that doesn't hurt. 225 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,220 John C Dvorak: I'm sure that's, that's the main marketing movie 226 00:13:11,220 --> 00:13:12,180 could make. Yeah, 227 00:13:12,780 --> 00:13:13,920 Adam Curry: they could make. 228 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,360 John C Dvorak: So probably double, double teaming, or, 229 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:26,000 Adam Curry: you know, football and Okay, so Meanwhile, back 230 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,000 here in the United States of America, all eyes on America, 231 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,520 because we got the most important election of our life 232 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,900 coming up our lifetime. Nothing matters more than this one. This 233 00:13:35,900 --> 00:13:39,020 is the one. Aren't you glad that you're we're still alive, and I 234 00:13:39,020 --> 00:13:40,660 can say this, yeah, it's 235 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,680 John C Dvorak: fabulous. Nothing in history has ever been like 236 00:13:44,740 --> 00:13:45,940 never today. It's 237 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,660 Adam Curry: It's so tight too. It's tight, then you have no 238 00:13:49,660 --> 00:13:50,380 seriously, 239 00:13:50,380 --> 00:13:52,480 John C Dvorak: it's tight. Every time we've, we've been doing 240 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,660 this show for 17 years almost, and it's always been tight, 241 00:13:55,660 --> 00:13:57,640 tight. This is always been tight. 242 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,860 Adam Curry: Our fourth presidential election, tight, 243 00:14:00,100 --> 00:14:01,500 tight, tight, tight. So 244 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,740 John C Dvorak: when the money starts flowing in one direction, 245 00:14:04,740 --> 00:14:07,500 they make it tight in the other direction. Coincidentally, how 246 00:14:07,500 --> 00:14:08,220 does that work? I 247 00:14:08,220 --> 00:14:10,140 Adam Curry: don't know. It's, it's, it's, I'll 248 00:14:10,140 --> 00:14:12,180 John C Dvorak: tell you how it works from the industry 249 00:14:12,180 --> 00:14:15,900 perspective. Look, hey, look, Trump spent spending more money 250 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:19,260 than you guys, and now look, he's getting higher numbers. You 251 00:14:19,260 --> 00:14:21,200 better start ponying up, or it'll 252 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:28,940 Adam Curry: be tight. Be tight. So vice president Harris and 253 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:34,220 Vice President Elect, elect nominee waltz did their 254 00:14:34,220 --> 00:14:39,800 interview on CNN. I think it does warrant some some 255 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,200 deconstruction. I think you and I both saw right off the bat, 256 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,260 what was wrong about this? Well, let 257 00:14:47,260 --> 00:14:48,100 John C Dvorak: me be clear. 258 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:48,880 Adam Curry: Please 259 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,460 John C Dvorak: do that was it? That's all I have to say. 260 00:14:53,140 --> 00:14:56,800 Adam Curry: Why was she sitting on a kindergarten chair? 261 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,240 John C Dvorak: She looked like a little kid. Who 262 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,360 Adam Curry: styled this and for what read was this sabotage. I 263 00:15:04,380 --> 00:15:06,720 John C Dvorak: think it was incompetence. I think is, I 264 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,560 think it is, I don't think it needs to be sabotaged. 265 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,760 Personally, I think that they're an incompetent group. They don't 266 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,720 know what they're doing. She's always wearing these dumpy pant 267 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,560 suits. What is the who, who's styling her 268 00:15:21,620 --> 00:15:25,460 Adam Curry: well, it's to be fair, the the pantsuits are 269 00:15:25,460 --> 00:15:30,260 there to hide things, including the the there's other 270 00:15:30,260 --> 00:15:34,940 John C Dvorak: ways of doing it. These are very dumpy pantsuits. 271 00:15:34,940 --> 00:15:40,220 There can be style. If you had Armani or somebody styled a pant 272 00:15:40,220 --> 00:15:43,480 suit, it would, yeah, still be a pantsuit, and could still hide 273 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,260 what you're trying to hide, but it wouldn't look like a dumpy, 274 00:15:47,260 --> 00:15:52,960 cheap, not even, you know, like a Ross pant suit. It's just 275 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,340 that, plus the fact that she's sitting on a what on the floor. 276 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,120 Also, the 277 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,080 Adam Curry: lighting was very poor, because lighting was 278 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,620 terrible. Her, I mean, we're just coming at this from 279 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,900 television production standpoint, because we have a 280 00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:10,140 lot of experience with I would have stopped this. Anybody with 281 00:16:10,140 --> 00:16:14,340 eyes to see would have said, Hold on a second. Tim, you need 282 00:16:14,340 --> 00:16:16,920 to get on the kindergarten chair, because you look like the 283 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,680 Jolly Green Giant here towering over her Dana Bash had the 284 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,880 lighting. Dana Bash, I did the same thing. Kamala did. Dana 285 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,700 Bash. Dana Bash had the lighting. She had good lighting. 286 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,640 John C Dvorak: And we did have good lighting, right? Was 287 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,180 Adam Curry: this a cafeteria or what? What was the supposed 288 00:16:35,180 --> 00:16:37,940 John C Dvorak: to be? A diner or something? There was no casual 289 00:16:37,940 --> 00:16:38,840 location. It 290 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,020 Adam Curry: looked like it was in an apartment building. 291 00:16:41,260 --> 00:16:43,300 John C Dvorak: What's the point? Exactly? 292 00:16:43,300 --> 00:16:46,780 Adam Curry: It made no sense. It wasn't casual. It's looked very 293 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,380 uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable dark, 294 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:55,060 John C Dvorak: yeah, it dingy. It was emphasized her little 295 00:16:55,060 --> 00:16:58,060 girl look. She's down low to the ground. Oh, you 296 00:16:58,060 --> 00:17:00,240 Adam Curry: think that was the idea, let's make her look like a 297 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:01,020 little girl. 298 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,600 John C Dvorak: That's what it looked like. Where 299 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:04,620 Adam Curry: was JJ Abraham? 300 00:17:04,620 --> 00:17:06,480 John C Dvorak: Think that was the idea, though. I think it's 301 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,920 just base incompetence. Nobody knows the basics. You had all 302 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,560 the head levels are supposed to be the same in these in these 303 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:14,640 three shots, but you got to 304 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,700 Adam Curry: presume that CNN set this up to see is CNN now 305 00:17:17,700 --> 00:17:19,440 completely incompetent as well? 306 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,400 John C Dvorak: Well, if you, if you're thinking that they 307 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,240 brought over somebody that knew that they were doing at CNN, and 308 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:32,540 they let it happen like this, I'm wondering. We don't know 309 00:17:32,540 --> 00:17:34,760 behind the scenes what was going on. It could have been all 310 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,660 Camela people telling them what to do, and with the CNN people 311 00:17:38,660 --> 00:17:42,940 going, okay, whatever you want. You're editing it. Just 312 00:17:43,540 --> 00:17:47,200 Adam Curry: imagine, madam, Vice President, you look fantastic. 313 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,340 This is a perfect shot. This will really go over well. I 314 00:17:51,340 --> 00:17:55,540 mean, JJ, Abrams did the DNC, they couldn't give him, like, 315 00:17:55,540 --> 00:18:02,220 get an extra day out of him. They got money, money, you know, 316 00:18:03,780 --> 00:18:07,500 John C Dvorak: hubris note here is, you have to assume that you 317 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:12,360 needed JJ, Abrams. Hey, you know I did TV, and when I was in high 318 00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:16,320 school, and we had a little TV studio, and I've done this. I 319 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,760 know what I'm doing. No, it's 320 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,380 Adam Curry: better than that. Hey, I do a podcast. So I can 321 00:18:21,380 --> 00:18:24,860 help. I can help, madam, Vice President, I'm a podcaster. I'm 322 00:18:24,860 --> 00:18:32,600 a I'm a tick tocker. Tick tock is better than this. It was, it 323 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:38,840 was pathetic. And then to have on screen live that was 324 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,440 John C Dvorak: taped. Yes, talk about, you're out about that. 325 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,180 You should have put that in the newsletter. 326 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,920 Adam Curry: Disinformation. That was live, that was a lie. Was 327 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,080 not live anyway. 328 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,780 John C Dvorak: It was fact. It was what, two days earlier than 329 00:18:52,780 --> 00:18:55,360 when they taped it, because it took him two days to edit it 330 00:18:55,360 --> 00:18:55,840 down. 331 00:18:57,340 --> 00:19:00,600 Adam Curry: Here's before the interview, and this is mainly 332 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,680 from CNM. I think there's an MSNBC in there as well. The M 333 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:09,900 5m, our, our mainstream media was really just totally 334 00:19:09,900 --> 00:19:15,300 understanding of of the lack of interviews, because elections 335 00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:20,720 aren't about policy. In fact, stating your policy is a very 336 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:25,160 dumb move. No one wants to hear that that can tank you. What 337 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,240 people in America want the way we elect our presidents is the 338 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:34,340 same way we choose our breakfast cereal. Vibes, man. Vibes, 339 00:19:34,340 --> 00:19:34,820 candidates 340 00:19:34,820 --> 00:19:36,740 Unknown: don't need us as journalists to get their message 341 00:19:36,740 --> 00:19:38,960 out. They don't anymore in this ecosystem, in 342 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,700 the media preoccupied with like, how much access, how many 343 00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:44,080 conversations is she going to have? 344 00:19:44,140 --> 00:19:47,020 I don't know how much that matters. There is risk in 345 00:19:47,020 --> 00:19:47,920 talking to us. There's 346 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,120 no doubt about that. Then 347 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:50,380 you hear the criticism, 348 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,280 oh, she's to do more interviews. She has to talk about policy 349 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,600 insiders you're speaking to. They're 350 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,700 sort of like, no, yeah, no, 351 00:19:57,820 --> 00:20:00,360 I love you all, but I don't want to talk them to you. All right 352 00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:03,480 now, remember what Elizabeth Warren did when she ran back in 353 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,380 2020? She had a white paper for every policy position under the 354 00:20:07,380 --> 00:20:10,560 sun, and what happened? She collapsed in the primary. So the 355 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,500 belief that perhaps you put more ideas on paper, that's a bad 356 00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:13,860 idea. The 357 00:20:13,860 --> 00:20:17,160 more details you share, the more your policies are going to get 358 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,300 picked apart. Harris has 359 00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:21,860 changed this from being a policy election and more of like a 360 00:20:21,860 --> 00:20:22,400 movement, 361 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,960 a cultural, vibes, 362 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,880 policy, vibes, vibes election. It's a vibes election. 363 00:20:28,940 --> 00:20:30,380 This vibes 364 00:20:30,380 --> 00:20:32,960 election that we're all feeling right now. It already felt like 365 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,340 a vibes election before most elections are vibes elections. I 366 00:20:37,340 --> 00:20:37,820 think every 367 00:20:37,820 --> 00:20:40,720 election, frankly, is a vibes election. And I think there are 368 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,740 really only two vibes that matter in American politics. One 369 00:20:44,740 --> 00:20:48,100 is hope and joy, and the other is fear and anger. 370 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:54,460 John C Dvorak: Wow, that's that is the best. I'm actually going 371 00:20:54,460 --> 00:20:56,860 to give you a borderline clip, because that's one of the better 372 00:20:56,860 --> 00:20:57,820 Supercuts I've heard for 373 00:21:00,700 --> 00:21:01,480 Unknown: a while. Thank you. 374 00:21:01,540 --> 00:21:02,700 John C Dvorak: So funny. 375 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,040 Adam Curry: Yeah, I love that there's only two types of vibes, 376 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,340 man, hope and joy or fear. And what was the what was the last 377 00:21:08,340 --> 00:21:09,780 thing that said fear and 378 00:21:09,780 --> 00:21:13,020 Unknown: fear and anger, hope and joy, and the other is fear 379 00:21:13,020 --> 00:21:13,620 and anger, 380 00:21:13,620 --> 00:21:18,300 Adam Curry: fear and anger and right in lockstep. We've kind of 381 00:21:18,300 --> 00:21:23,900 forgotten about our our new CEO of National Public Radio or 382 00:21:23,900 --> 00:21:27,740 national treasure. What's her name? Again? Catherine Katie, 383 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,120 John C Dvorak: no, I 384 00:21:29,780 --> 00:21:33,560 Adam Curry: let me Homer second. Catherine Marr. Catherine Marr, 385 00:21:33,860 --> 00:21:37,400 John C Dvorak: yeah, we did a whole thing on her. Yeah. So 386 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,660 Adam Curry: horrible person. Her infinite wisdom to make sure 387 00:21:40,660 --> 00:21:46,600 that she keeps her her aging. Listeners, I'm the last person 388 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:47,860 to talk about aging. 389 00:21:48,700 --> 00:21:53,380 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I just had a surprise birthday for how old 390 00:21:53,380 --> 00:21:54,100 are you? 391 00:21:54,220 --> 00:21:59,020 Adam Curry: But on Tuesday, I'll be 60. I still feel 15 inside. 392 00:21:59,020 --> 00:22:03,720 You still make me laugh with the funny jokes in her infinite 393 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:11,880 wisdom to make, to do her bit for the party. NPR has appointed 394 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,940 a joy czar. No, 395 00:22:14,940 --> 00:22:17,820 John C Dvorak: yes, ah, you caught me flat footed. I 396 00:22:17,820 --> 00:22:21,740 Adam Curry: just joy czar. Yes, that's right, 397 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,260 John C Dvorak: is it? Joy Behar, no, no, no, no, no, no. Joy 398 00:22:27,260 --> 00:22:27,740 Reid, 399 00:22:27,980 --> 00:22:30,620 Adam Curry: amid the highly charged partisan politics in the 400 00:22:30,620 --> 00:22:34,100 US, along with wars in Ukraine, the Middle East, National Public 401 00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:38,180 Radio, it's appointed a joy czar to help the broadcaster find 402 00:22:38,180 --> 00:22:42,340 more uplifting stories embedded in the newsroom throughout the 403 00:22:42,340 --> 00:22:46,360 year, the person will aim to ratchet up our joy quotient. 404 00:22:48,820 --> 00:22:53,140 It's now KPI, your joy quotient across platforms. This is from 405 00:22:53,140 --> 00:22:58,720 an internal memo. We do not know the name yet of the joy czar, 406 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,280 but you can bet that person's gonna have an interesting time. 407 00:23:05,700 --> 00:23:09,720 In fact, we should have that should be a donation level. Joys 408 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,020 are, can be a joys are of the no agenda show. 409 00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:18,420 John C Dvorak: It's, I mean, but you've given me ideas. Isn't 410 00:23:18,420 --> 00:23:22,340 Adam Curry: this kind of obvious what they're doing. You know, if 411 00:23:22,340 --> 00:23:26,720 we didn't have enough politics of joy and Black joy, and that's 412 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,340 John C Dvorak: obvious, what they're doing, they're promoting 413 00:23:28,340 --> 00:23:30,080 Kamala Harris, yes, 414 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,960 Adam Curry: and that's your news. This is, this is our first 415 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,680 big move from the new CEO. All right, everybody, I'm the new 416 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,440 CEO. I'm gonna fix this place. Here's what we're gonna do when 417 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,520 appoint a joys are who wants to be the joy czar? No hands go up 418 00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:48,220 on me, not me. 419 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,040 John C Dvorak: Do you want to just hire the guy or they fired 420 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,320 from the DEI position? Oh, 421 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,100 Adam Curry: that's, well, you know, that's, that's not a bad 422 00:24:00,100 --> 00:24:03,720 idea. We have the joy department. Ooh, Joy Division. 423 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,340 There you go. The Joy Division. Wasn't that a Nazi thing? 424 00:24:09,540 --> 00:24:12,900 John C Dvorak: The Joy Division, it all is a Nazi thing. Strength 425 00:24:12,900 --> 00:24:14,820 through joy. Look it up on Google. 426 00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:18,360 Adam Curry: Well, they've never actually used that, that slogan, 427 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,400 John C Dvorak: but doesn't matter. We can say they did. 428 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,760 Adam Curry: I mean, Joy Division was a band, clear, to be clear, 429 00:24:26,180 --> 00:24:29,540 Joy Division was a band. But I always thought that the whole 430 00:24:29,540 --> 00:24:33,620 thing was the whole Let me see. What if I just concert consult 431 00:24:33,620 --> 00:24:37,340 the book of knowledge on Joy Division Nazis. Maybe that'll 432 00:24:37,340 --> 00:24:43,780 pop up. Let's see what happens. Joy, Joy Division, it's just 433 00:24:43,780 --> 00:24:45,760 good. It's just good. Joy Division, 434 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:50,140 John C Dvorak: they say, hi, aloha. Do you want to hear a 435 00:24:50,140 --> 00:24:52,120 couple K let's play a couple of Camel Eclipse. Oh, 436 00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:54,100 Adam Curry: because I have, yeah. Did you get some from the 437 00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:54,640 interview? 438 00:24:55,900 --> 00:24:57,700 John C Dvorak: I think there's one in here. Mike, I'm not 439 00:24:57,700 --> 00:25:00,360 seeing it, but I do have one I want to play. Just. Says in a 440 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:04,740 warning, a warning shot across the bow. This was a slight 441 00:25:04,740 --> 00:25:12,420 supercut taken from the Kamala versus pence debate. 442 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,960 Adam Curry: Oh, oh, that's old. That's very 443 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,500 John C Dvorak: old. It's very old. It's from 2019 oh, no, no, 444 00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:25,940 2020, and it was, this is what she's up to when they talk about 445 00:25:25,940 --> 00:25:28,520 the open mics and the closed mics and this and that. This is 446 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,120 just a super cut of her interrupting, or her being 447 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:36,200 interrupted, or claiming to be interrupted by pence. And it, 448 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,440 and it, unfortunately, this would be better in video, 449 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,860 because she has a she has this condescending, you're an idiot. 450 00:25:44,860 --> 00:25:49,540 Look on her face constantly. And this is, here's the clip, Mr. 451 00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:49,720 Vice 452 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,060 Unknown: President, I'm speaking. I have I'm speaking. 453 00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:53,920 Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking. 454 00:25:55,420 --> 00:25:57,880 I'm speaking. Be important if you said the truth. 455 00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:03,840 Vice President, speaking. I'm speaking though. Okay, if you 456 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,020 don't mind letting me finish, we can then have a conversation. 457 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,260 Okay, please. Okay, fine. Answer you now, do 458 00:26:10,260 --> 00:26:11,760 people deserve a straight answer? I 459 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,220 will not sit here and be lectured by the Vice President. 460 00:26:14,340 --> 00:26:20,420 I'm speaking. Yeah, I'm about to I will not be lectured by the 461 00:26:20,420 --> 00:26:21,320 Vice President. 462 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,520 Adam Curry: Wow. She she did that again. She was got heckled 463 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,360 again by Palestinian pro Palestinian protesters at one of 464 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:34,580 her JAM PACKED events. Yeah, she did that again. It's like, I'm 465 00:26:34,580 --> 00:26:37,340 speaking right now. And that's 466 00:26:37,340 --> 00:26:40,280 John C Dvorak: her whole thing. Her whole bit is Yes, like that. 467 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,560 That is wait. You just 468 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,840 Adam Curry: heard it, yeah, please wait for the lady I'm 469 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,020 speaking right now. And I'm sure that's what the September 10 470 00:26:47,020 --> 00:26:52,840 debate will be. Her saying, miss it. I will not be lectured by a 471 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,720 former president. I'm speaking. I'm the vice by 472 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,540 John C Dvorak: a felon, a fella felon. I know felons. I 473 00:27:00,540 --> 00:27:01,380 Unknown: know, I know. 474 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,840 Adam Curry: I know his type Exactly. It didn't. It didn't 475 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,920 take more than 36 seconds for her to bring up Trump at the 476 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,720 beginning of that interview. Did you notice that right here it 477 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:15,960 is, 478 00:27:16,140 --> 00:27:18,480 Unknown: the voters are really eager to hear what your plans 479 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,340 are if you are elected, what would you do on day one in the 480 00:27:22,340 --> 00:27:24,200 White House? Well, 481 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,960 there are a number of things I will tell you. First and 482 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,700 foremost, one of my highest priorities, is to do what we can 483 00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:37,820 to support and strengthen the middle class. When I look at the 484 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,440 aspirations, the goals, the ambitions of the American 485 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:49,000 people. I think that people are ready for a new way forward, in 486 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,240 a way that generations of Americans have been fueled by, 487 00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:57,160 by hope and by optimism. Here we go. I think sadly, in the last 488 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:03,000 decade, we have had in the former president, someone who 489 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,640 has really been pushing an agenda and an environment that 490 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,960 is about diminishing the character and the strength of 491 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:18,840 who we are as Americans, really dividing our nation. And I think 492 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,860 people are ready to turn the page on that? Yeah, yeah, we're 493 00:28:21,860 --> 00:28:26,420 Adam Curry: ready to turn the page on that. It's really no 494 00:28:26,420 --> 00:28:30,440 substance. I was surprised at how non substantive her answers 495 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,840 were, even though she was late, led to an extreme by Dana Bash. 496 00:28:38,300 --> 00:28:40,340 John C Dvorak: Yeah, she gave her a lot of opportunities 497 00:28:41,060 --> 00:28:44,140 Adam Curry: and not a lot of pushback on things like the 498 00:28:44,620 --> 00:28:49,660 whole Trump says, You black. I mean, it's only 29 seconds, and 499 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,420 it was over, and that's it. No further questions. 500 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,520 Unknown: I was a little bit surprised. People might be 501 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,640 surprised to hear that you have never interacted with him. Met 502 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,720 him face to face. That's going to change soon, but what I want 503 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,100 to ask you about is what he said last month. He suggested that 504 00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:09,480 you happened to turn black recently for political purposes, 505 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,240 questioning a core part of your identity, 506 00:29:15,180 --> 00:29:19,440 any same old, tired playbook. Next question, please. 507 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,440 That's it, that's it, 508 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,620 Adam Curry: that's it, that's it. Who's in control? Hey, I'm 509 00:29:24,620 --> 00:29:26,660 speaking, and when I'm not speaking, that's it. 510 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,200 John C Dvorak: Now, yeah, that was the clip I actually had. 511 00:29:30,860 --> 00:29:34,400 That was a great clip because she she didn't know what to say. 512 00:29:35,060 --> 00:29:39,800 Well, she hasn't. She had no no she hadn't even she knew that 513 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,540 had to be coming. And she could have probably formulated or 514 00:29:43,540 --> 00:29:46,000 worked with people to formulate something that was really 515 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,960 clever, yeah, but she couldn't even do that same 516 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,600 Adam Curry: person who who staged that whole interview, was 517 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,880 doing the answers, I guess, just say next question. There's no 518 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,460 pass if. Same presidential interview. You don't get to pass 519 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:08,220 next question, please. I'll pass on that question. Diana, but I 520 00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:15,960 have to say she is pretty black. I mean, she is so black, she 521 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,040 does this. I 522 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,340 Unknown: have a friend who had a Christmas party Christmas Eve 523 00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:23,840 every year, and she asked me to make the greens for a party 524 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,340 every year. And I am not lying to you that I would make so many 525 00:30:28,340 --> 00:30:32,420 greens that I'd need to wash them in the bathtub. I'm telling 526 00:30:32,420 --> 00:30:36,740 you the truth. So how do you make your greens? You put Turkey 527 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:44,020 in them. Bacon. I do bacon, garlic. I put white vinegar. I 528 00:30:44,020 --> 00:30:49,120 do so I start with, I slice up my garlic, but no first I fry 529 00:30:49,180 --> 00:30:53,560 chocolate, then bacon, and get all that fat on. Then I put 530 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:59,260 garlic, some chili peppers, and then a lot of water and a little 531 00:30:59,260 --> 00:31:03,480 chicken stock, and I let it go for a while before I put the 532 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,520 greens in. And then, right, so you get that going and all that 533 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,760 flavor, and then I put the greens in for a couple hours. 534 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,020 Then I do vinegar, and then I cheat and do a little Tabasco. 535 00:31:16,260 --> 00:31:20,540 No, that's okay, but Tabasco, of all, like, I like Louisiana hot 536 00:31:20,540 --> 00:31:24,020 sauce, but Tabasco has that right amount of vinegar, yeah, 537 00:31:24,740 --> 00:31:27,080 and that's so that's how I do my green 538 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,140 Adam Curry: Well, there it is. Once you bring in the hot sauce 539 00:31:33,140 --> 00:31:36,740 and tabasco, and remember, when people say, I'm not lying, 540 00:31:36,740 --> 00:31:41,320 that's the truth. They're lying. It's not the truth. That's 541 00:31:41,380 --> 00:31:46,660 always the case. That's what kids do. I'm not lying, but I'm 542 00:31:46,660 --> 00:31:50,200 not lying. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, you are. 543 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,140 John C Dvorak: If she has to wash that many greens in the 544 00:31:53,140 --> 00:31:53,740 tub, 545 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,040 Adam Curry: yes, I was waiting for some, some cooking analysis 546 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:57,460 on this. 547 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,140 John C Dvorak: Thanks. If she has to wash that many greens in 548 00:32:01,140 --> 00:32:04,800 the tub. What does she cook these greens? And she must have 549 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,360 the pot the size of Manhattan, yeah, the biggest pots you can 550 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,320 get on a stove will not I mean, it doesn't make sense the 551 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,860 volume, because she's talking about cooking collard greens, or 552 00:32:16,860 --> 00:32:19,140 mustard greens, probably collards, because that's the 553 00:32:19,140 --> 00:32:22,160 ones you cook for two to three hours, yeah, to get them to 554 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:22,700 soften up, 555 00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:26,420 Adam Curry: but wait, she she lets them sit in the bathtub 556 00:32:26,420 --> 00:32:29,120 first for a couple hours. That, no, 557 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,340 John C Dvorak: she never said, really. Said that. Yes, she did. 558 00:32:32,300 --> 00:32:35,600 No, she says she washes them in the bathtub. Oh, okay, all 559 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,860 right, good point. And the other woman says, when she started 560 00:32:39,860 --> 00:32:42,580 talking about the boiling water she's she said a couple hours 561 00:32:42,580 --> 00:32:48,160 she she's just eating up the the goo, the bacon and the stuff 562 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,980 that's in the water to get it. I don't know what the point of 563 00:32:50,980 --> 00:32:55,180 that is, a stump, whatever the case. No, this bull crap. She's 564 00:32:55,180 --> 00:32:59,320 no way. She cooks a tub full of green. She'd have to do them in 565 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,040 batches. And she never mentioned anything about doing them in 566 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,100 batches, and where would she put the cooked greens? But the whole 567 00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:06,180 thing is a joke. She's 568 00:33:06,180 --> 00:33:09,000 Adam Curry: not lying. She's not lying. She's telling you the 569 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:15,660 truth. This gaslighting from the M 5m is the best it's ever been. 570 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,040 It really is. 571 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,260 John C Dvorak: I mean, we've definitely going to an extreme. 572 00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:23,780 I mean, the walls parted that interview, I know if you have 573 00:33:23,780 --> 00:33:26,780 any clips from walls, yeah, I have one. I have one, one clip. 574 00:33:26,780 --> 00:33:30,620 And I mean, his whole idea of blaming bad he's a teacher, and 575 00:33:30,620 --> 00:33:33,200 he's blaming bad grammar. Here it is, 576 00:33:33,380 --> 00:33:36,740 Unknown: Governor Walz, the country is just starting to get 577 00:33:36,740 --> 00:33:40,120 to know you. I want to ask you a question about how you, 578 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,000 Adam Curry: by the way, talk about turn that frown upside 579 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,660 down. That guy's mouth is perpetually weighted down by by 580 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,640 fishing lures or something. 581 00:33:49,180 --> 00:33:51,940 John C Dvorak: You know what I mean? I mean he's got that look. 582 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,620 Yeah, it's grim. 583 00:33:53,620 --> 00:33:54,520 Adam Curry: Yeah. Grim 584 00:33:54,580 --> 00:33:57,760 Unknown: described your service in the National Guard. You said 585 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,560 that you carried weapons in war, but you have never deployed, 586 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,340 actually in a war zone. A campaign official said that you 587 00:34:05,340 --> 00:34:07,440 misspoke. Did you Well, 588 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,500 first of all, I'm incredibly proud. I've done 24 years of 589 00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:13,200 wearing uniform of this country. Equally proud 590 00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:18,660 John C Dvorak: he wasn't wearing the uniform for 23 he worked. He 591 00:34:18,660 --> 00:34:21,260 was what they used to be called, weekend weekend 592 00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:24,260 Adam Curry: warrior. Yes, he on the weekend. He put the because 593 00:34:24,260 --> 00:34:27,620 he was teaching and being football coach and whatever 594 00:34:27,620 --> 00:34:29,060 else. He makes it sound 595 00:34:29,060 --> 00:34:32,900 John C Dvorak: like he was in the army for 24 years. Yes, now 596 00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:33,980 I've had several, 597 00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:36,200 Adam Curry: uh, several producers write in saying, Hold 598 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,040 on a second. No one's really saying what this was. Weekend 599 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:40,540 warrior. 600 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,600 Unknown: I've done 24 years of wearing uniform of this country, 601 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,540 equally proud of my service in a public school classroom, whether 602 00:34:46,540 --> 00:34:50,980 it's Congress or the governor, my record speaks for itself, but 603 00:34:50,980 --> 00:34:54,760 I think people are coming yet to know me. I speak like they do. I 604 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,360 speak candidly. I wear my emotions on my sleeves, and I 605 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,740 speak especially passionately of. Out about our children being 606 00:35:01,740 --> 00:35:05,460 shot in schools and around around guns. So I think people 607 00:35:05,460 --> 00:35:08,460 know me. They know who I am. They know where, where my heart 608 00:35:08,460 --> 00:35:11,880 is, and again, my record has been out there for over 40 years 609 00:35:11,940 --> 00:35:12,960 to speak for itself, 610 00:35:13,260 --> 00:35:17,760 and the idea that you said that you were in war. So 611 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,440 Adam Curry: this was, I think this was set up because Dana, 612 00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:24,140 this is not Dana going, Hey, you didn't answer the question. This 613 00:35:24,140 --> 00:35:27,920 is Dana reminding him, remember what we rehearsed, remember you 614 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,780 got to answer that one. Remember the line, 615 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,500 Unknown: the idea that you said that you were in war. Did you 616 00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:35,240 misspeak, as the campaign has said, I 617 00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:37,640 said we were talking about, in this case, this was after a 618 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,480 school shooting, the ideas of carrying these weapons of war, 619 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,420 and my wife the English telling my grammar is not always 620 00:35:43,420 --> 00:35:46,180 correct, but again, if it's not this, it's an attack on my 621 00:35:46,180 --> 00:35:49,480 children for showing love for me, or it's an attack on my dog. 622 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,180 I'm not going to do that thing. I'll never do this. I'll never 623 00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:56,260 demean another member's service in any way. I never have and I 624 00:35:56,260 --> 00:35:56,800 never will. 625 00:35:56,860 --> 00:35:59,080 Adam Curry: Has anyone made fun of his dog, or is that it 626 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,000 doesn't mean his kid? I mean, does he think his kid is a dog 627 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,360 or his wife is a dog? I didn't know he had a dog. Has anyone 628 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,500 made fun of his dog? No, no. Maybe they have. Maybe we missed 629 00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:12,840 it. Maybe it was an important media moment. We missed 630 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,080 anything. You know, I was listening to, and 631 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,300 John C Dvorak: by the way, he threw that thing out there. He 632 00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:25,100 did besmirch Vance for his military service. Early on, he 633 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:29,540 even served. Yes, he did. He's full of shit. This guy. 634 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,080 Adam Curry: I was listening to disaffected podcasts with Josh 635 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,220 Slocum. Slocum, 636 00:36:34,220 --> 00:36:36,260 John C Dvorak: I think it is, and the name is what the 637 00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:39,200 disaffected podcast a great name for a podcast. It's 638 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,040 Adam Curry: a great podcast because this is the whole, this 639 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:47,800 is where I learned about, what's the B thing I learned so much 640 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:53,740 about I forgot already, you know, the mental illness you had 641 00:36:53,740 --> 00:37:03,960 to clip about it, the B, the B, the not dimension B, oh man. Why 642 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:04,620 am I like 643 00:37:04,620 --> 00:37:06,300 John C Dvorak: to see you swinging in the wind? Raise 644 00:37:06,420 --> 00:37:09,840 here. This is, this is going to go on for a while. I think 645 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,020 Adam Curry: it wasn't vitamin B. Thank you for being so helpful. 646 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,700 Troll, bipolar, yeah. But it had a it had a name. It had a name. 647 00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:21,200 Yes, it was borderline. Is under there? Bipolar, borderline 648 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,480 John C Dvorak: personality disorder, yeah, but it was, it 649 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:23,660 was 650 00:37:23,660 --> 00:37:30,020 Adam Curry: something B, ah, I feel like an idiot anyway. And 651 00:37:30,020 --> 00:37:34,160 he was saying that, you know, he, he comes from a Cluster B, 652 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,160 thank you, Cluster B. You're the one that had the clip about 653 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,060 Cluster B, remember, 654 00:37:38,060 --> 00:37:40,160 John C Dvorak: but you were saying B, B, B, like. It starts 655 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:40,960 with B, no 656 00:37:43,180 --> 00:37:48,100 Adam Curry: Cluster B, I heard it from him first, okay, and, 657 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:53,860 and he said that he observed the the the arm yank that waltz did 658 00:37:53,860 --> 00:37:56,620 on stage, which I looked at him like, that seems like the kid 659 00:37:56,620 --> 00:38:01,020 was going to walk into a into a teleprompter. And he comes from, 660 00:38:01,140 --> 00:38:05,220 Josh comes from a very abusive household. And he said, Oh no, 661 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,940 this is someone who may be very different than we think at home. 662 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,500 And I'm not going to say that, but because I'm going to say 663 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:17,220 Josh said it, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't be surprised. Look, 664 00:38:17,220 --> 00:38:20,780 just look at the guy's face. I mean, I've heard of resting 665 00:38:20,780 --> 00:38:23,720 bitch face, but that's, that's amazing. What that guy has, you 666 00:38:24,620 --> 00:38:25,640 imagine looking at that 667 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,660 John C Dvorak: you think is an a hole, possibly? Yeah, well, 668 00:38:29,660 --> 00:38:31,940 possibly. I don't know why you should be so reluctant to say 669 00:38:31,940 --> 00:38:35,120 that he's just seems like one. I mean, I have a clip I've been 670 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,340 hanging on to because he keeps saying, whatever is just a 671 00:38:37,340 --> 00:38:40,600 mistake. And this is where he can't, you know, he, didn't 672 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,620 retire as Sergeant Major or whatever. Yeah, he army. He had 673 00:38:44,620 --> 00:38:48,940 the Stolen Valor. Stolen Valor. He had the he was downgraded 674 00:38:48,940 --> 00:38:50,200 because he never finished. 675 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,300 Adam Curry: He didn't complete the course, he didn't take the 676 00:38:52,300 --> 00:38:53,560 test. He was not he 677 00:38:53,620 --> 00:38:55,720 John C Dvorak: didn't do it right so, but he's still taking 678 00:38:55,720 --> 00:39:00,600 credit for it. And so this is a clip of just a few examples of 679 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,760 his refusing to correct people who said it, and him saying it 680 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,260 and everything in between. This is the waltz misspoke, supercut 681 00:39:10,260 --> 00:39:12,780 Unknown: major as a retired Sergeant Major in the Army 682 00:39:12,780 --> 00:39:16,320 National Guard out of Minnesota, retired out as Command Sergeant 683 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,800 Major. I spent 24 years in the military Congressman as a 684 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,840 Command Sergeant Major. I 685 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,100 hope Tim Walz is 686 00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:26,060 one of those everyday people, coach to the state champs, 687 00:39:26,660 --> 00:39:29,840 Teacher of the Year, Command Sergeant Major. 688 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,140 I am a retired Command Sergeant Major in the Minnesota National 689 00:39:33,140 --> 00:39:37,520 Guard. I am retired Sergeant Major in the Army National 690 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,720 Guard, what I consider to be the responsibility and the privilege 691 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,960 of being the highest ranking enlisted personnel ever to serve 692 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,280 in Congress and Democrats. What rank was that? Command Sergeant 693 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:48,520 Major? 694 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,260 So when you first came 695 00:39:50,260 --> 00:39:53,020 to Washington, you were a retired Command Sergeant Major 696 00:39:53,020 --> 00:39:55,540 in the Army National Guard. So I 697 00:39:55,540 --> 00:39:59,920 was an enlisted soldier for all those years and care of true. 698 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,900 And making sure they have the right equipment is is paramount. 699 00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:04,560 So he's a 700 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,620 coach to the State football champs, and he's a command 701 00:40:07,620 --> 00:40:11,160 sergeant major in the Army National Guard. And I introduce 702 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:16,680 you my favorite coworker who achieved the rank of Command 703 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,600 Sergeant Major in the Army National Guard, and someone who 704 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:26,060 proudly wears the Red Bull whenever he can. So please join 705 00:40:26,060 --> 00:40:30,560 me in welcoming our governor, a veteran, Governor DeWalt 17 706 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:30,800 served 707 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,740 24 years, including not racist during freedom retirees, which 708 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,020 makes it the highest rank for listed 709 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,900 Adam Curry: and the one you've been hanging on to it was 710 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,360 almost, almost unintelligible. 711 00:40:46,900 --> 00:40:50,080 John C Dvorak: Well, it falls apart, yes, but what's so to me? 712 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,900 But it's obvious what's what he's up to. Well, he's a liar. 713 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,140 Well, 714 00:40:53,140 --> 00:40:55,540 Adam Curry: it's fascinating, because if you went out on the 715 00:40:55,540 --> 00:40:59,680 streets of America to man on the street before Walt's, no one 716 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,220 would have even known of the rank, command assert, Sergeant 717 00:41:02,220 --> 00:41:06,540 Major. I didn't you know Lieutenant Serge, maybe Sergeant 718 00:41:06,540 --> 00:41:09,000 Command Sergeant Major. I don't think anyone would have known 719 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,760 about it. Now, everyone's like, Oh, he's Command Sergeant Major. 720 00:41:13,860 --> 00:41:18,480 That's how it works. And and I will have to say that the the M 721 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:24,140 5m reach is pretty large because it's, it's, it's put online. 722 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:31,040 That's where it gets traction. And that's how we also get 723 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,480 traction for the horrible JD Vance, you know, he, he, Oh, my 724 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:40,720 Lord, He is so mean to women. He hates women. In fact, he hates 725 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:45,400 women so much, his example of dumb women could make you John C 726 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,080 Dvorak, Vice President. Let's 727 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,020 Unknown: start with JD Vance, of course, Trump's running mate. 728 00:41:50,020 --> 00:41:54,100 Last night, he posted an old viral video on x of a teenage 729 00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:57,940 beauty contestant who badly flubbed a question, and he wrote 730 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,980 breaking I have gotten a hold of the full Kamala Harris CNN 731 00:42:01,980 --> 00:42:06,060 interview, and that post, in and of itself, trades on, of course, 732 00:42:06,060 --> 00:42:10,080 misogynist and reductive tropes about beauty queens being stupid 733 00:42:10,380 --> 00:42:13,020 and insinuating that Harris, by extension, fits in this 734 00:42:13,020 --> 00:42:17,220 category. So this morning, when he was told that the young 735 00:42:17,220 --> 00:42:21,140 contestant in that video, Caitlin Upton, was traumatized 736 00:42:21,140 --> 00:42:24,860 by how that embarrassing moment was so widely shared back in 737 00:42:24,860 --> 00:42:29,900 2007 and even contemplated suicide. JD Vance said this, 738 00:42:31,340 --> 00:42:36,080 politics has gotten way too lame. John, way too boring. You 739 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,200 can have some fun while making a good argument to the American 740 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,680 people about how you're going to improve their lives. I'm not 741 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,980 going to apologize for posting a joke, but I wish the best for 742 00:42:44,980 --> 00:42:48,340 Caitlin. I hope that she's doing well. And again, what I'd say is 743 00:42:48,340 --> 00:42:51,640 one bad moment shouldn't define anybody, and the best way to 744 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,800 deal with this stuff is to laugh at ourselves. 745 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,160 Of course, the trouble with that answer is that Vance isn't 746 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,960 laughing at himself, the optics, if you parse it, he's making a 747 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,900 joke about a woman at the expense of another woman. Oh, 748 00:43:04,260 --> 00:43:07,980 Adam Curry: oh no, it's a double whammy harsh this. 749 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,420 John C Dvorak: Oh brother. He's really a nice guy, and he's 750 00:43:12,420 --> 00:43:16,260 trying to do his best there. And I think he did well. And then 751 00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:18,600 all of a sudden, you turn that on, turn it back on. 752 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,620 Adam Curry: Him making fun of a woman at the expense of another 753 00:43:21,620 --> 00:43:24,380 woman. Well, let's double down. Recent 754 00:43:24,380 --> 00:43:27,140 Unknown: polls have shown a fifth of Americans can't locate 755 00:43:27,140 --> 00:43:30,560 the US on a world map. Why do you think this is 756 00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:37,880 I personally believe that us Americans are unable to do so 757 00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:44,860 because some people out there in our nation don't have maps, and 758 00:43:44,860 --> 00:43:49,780 I believe that our education, like such as in South Africa and 759 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,160 the Iraq everywhere, like such as and I believe that they 760 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,560 should our education over here in the US should help the US, or 761 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,000 should Help South Africa. It should help the Iraq and the 762 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,660 Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future for 763 00:44:06,660 --> 00:44:09,900 our children. Thank you very much, South Carolina. 764 00:44:12,300 --> 00:44:16,020 Adam Curry: So this is the so JD Vance, the guy that Tim walls 765 00:44:16,020 --> 00:44:19,560 can't help saying he had or insinuating he had sex with his 766 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,760 couch, which is also funny. 767 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,600 John C Dvorak: It's funny and total bull crap. Yeah, it was 768 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,180 just dreamed up by a comedian, basically. But 769 00:44:29,180 --> 00:44:32,720 Adam Curry: then, but then, wait another JCD moment, because how 770 00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:36,440 many times have you not said at least half of this joke? And 771 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,380 Unknown: that is not the only post that's getting this team 772 00:44:39,380 --> 00:44:42,280 into hot water. One post in particular shared by Donald 773 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,400 Trump, a photo of Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris. And 774 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,060 I'm going to warn you now that the joke attached to it is very 775 00:44:49,060 --> 00:44:52,000 vulgar. So if you have little ones that don't want to hear 776 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,300 this, just sort of turn off the TV. This is your moment. It 777 00:44:55,300 --> 00:45:00,240 basically says it's funny how blow jobs impacted both. Of 778 00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:03,240 their careers differently. That, of course, a reference to Bill 779 00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:06,420 Clinton's inappropriate behavior with a White House intern, as 780 00:45:06,420 --> 00:45:08,940 well as an insinuation that Harris slept her way to a 781 00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:12,660 position of influence. So none of that likely to win over many 782 00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:13,620 women voters. 783 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,340 Adam Curry: What I think lots of women would be like, hey, good 784 00:45:17,340 --> 00:45:25,040 point. Yeah, we've gone, we've sunk to a new low in politics. 785 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:26,840 Unbelievable. 786 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,240 John C Dvorak: No, it's completely You're right. I do 787 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:32,420 that gag. I don't do it that much, but I have done that gag 788 00:45:32,420 --> 00:45:36,500 at least 20 I've made mention, yeah, usually with the timing, 789 00:45:36,500 --> 00:45:40,660 with the purpose of timing correct, to get a cheap laugh 790 00:45:40,660 --> 00:45:47,620 from you, and it always works. It tends to work, which is 791 00:45:47,620 --> 00:45:48,820 pathetic on your part. 792 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,120 Unknown: I'm blaming you for 793 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,700 Adam Curry: this. Hey, you're making fun of me at the expense 794 00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:56,680 of someone else. Now I don't know this is 795 00:45:56,980 --> 00:45:59,020 John C Dvorak: wrong. Yeah, it's terrible that people do that. 796 00:45:59,020 --> 00:45:59,200 It's 797 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:05,160 Adam Curry: wrong. Yeah. Hmm, that's hilarious. I'm glad that 798 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,160 we there's material here, though, but it's just, is that 799 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,720 really the level? If anything, the whole point is to make 800 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:17,640 people tune out. I think, yeah, just tune out. Who cares? I have 801 00:46:17,820 --> 00:46:19,260 just one final thing I've got 802 00:46:19,260 --> 00:46:21,200 John C Dvorak: to want to mention something else, this 803 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,340 vibe, Joy vibe thing, or the doll we don't need policy. We 804 00:46:25,340 --> 00:46:31,580 just needed vibe versus like that. Woman is not likable. She 805 00:46:31,580 --> 00:46:38,000 is arrogant, condescending, patronizing. She is she's glib. 806 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,040 She has a these looks on her face that she develops around 807 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:47,440 people. She's borderline anti social. It's just, I don't see 808 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,940 what, what the appeal is. These guys have got to be biting their 809 00:46:51,940 --> 00:46:56,260 tongue constantly when they're because they have to Democrat, 810 00:46:56,260 --> 00:46:58,180 once a Democrat, always a Democrat. This, 811 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:00,720 Adam Curry: no, this is not Democrat. This is this is just 812 00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:04,320 their job. This is what they're paid to do. They're part of the 813 00:47:04,740 --> 00:47:08,580 system. It's just, it's what it is. It's what you do when the 814 00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:13,980 system is threatened, which it clearly is by Trump and Bobby D 815 00:47:13,980 --> 00:47:18,180 op. Who is he belongs in a loony bin? Oh, someone sent me the 816 00:47:18,180 --> 00:47:22,940 clip. Where is it? Here, I still don't have the Axelrod clip, 817 00:47:22,940 --> 00:47:26,600 which is really the best one, if anyone can find that someone did 818 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,800 send me the James Carville clip calling Bobby The Opera a nut 819 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:31,280 job. 820 00:47:31,340 --> 00:47:33,920 Unknown: I really feel sorry for the Kennedy family, because I 821 00:47:33,980 --> 00:47:36,560 remind them you can pick your friends, you can't pick your 822 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,620 relatives, and if Bobby Kennedy lived in a rocky mountain 823 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,780 country, they would have him in a nice rubber room and, you 824 00:47:43,780 --> 00:47:46,600 know, three hots and a cotton take care of this guy. He's no 825 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,380 business being out on the street, mixing and mingling with 826 00:47:50,380 --> 00:47:53,260 people. But this is where we are. In this country. We have a 827 00:47:53,260 --> 00:47:54,220 mental health crisis. 828 00:47:54,340 --> 00:47:57,580 Adam Curry: Mental Health Crisis, Bobby, the up is part of 829 00:47:57,580 --> 00:48:04,920 the mental health crisis. So then we, we get Ari Melber, 830 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,140 Harry Melber, you know, you know, he's 831 00:48:07,140 --> 00:48:09,780 John C Dvorak: a lawyer, Mr. Five o'clock shadow, hip hop 832 00:48:09,780 --> 00:48:10,380 expert. 833 00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:14,580 Adam Curry: He's always doing Hip Hop lyrics in the in the 834 00:48:14,580 --> 00:48:20,580 great, in the great words of fill in the blank flavor, flav 835 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,080 of Public Enemy, the guy with the gold tooth and the big clock 836 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:30,140 around his neck. And it'll cite some rap lyrics. So supposedly, 837 00:48:30,740 --> 00:48:35,660 he made fun of which they were all doing. And by the way, we 838 00:48:35,660 --> 00:48:39,080 made fun of it too of Trump would come out with a giant, a 839 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:45,580 giant, you know, pad on his ear at the RNC, which he kind of, 840 00:48:45,580 --> 00:48:49,540 did, you know, giant, giant gauze predicted? Yeah, we were 841 00:48:49,540 --> 00:48:52,120 talking. I mean, there were jokes everywhere, like a big my 842 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,900 pillow on his head. And it was kind of a joke at the RNC people 843 00:48:55,900 --> 00:49:00,220 had big, big pads on their head, out of solidarity. So Corey 844 00:49:00,220 --> 00:49:04,200 Lewandowski, is he back on the scene? Isn't this the guy who 845 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,260 was Trump's campaign manager, but then he got kicked out 846 00:49:07,260 --> 00:49:10,560 because he roughed up some, some journalist, he's 847 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,080 John C Dvorak: the one. Yes, he's the one. And he is kind of 848 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:17,280 back, but he's not back in the in the position he used to be. 849 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:22,280 Yeah, he's the one, if you recall, he didn't do anything to 850 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,360 any journalist. He kind of, kind of tapped somebody on the 851 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,320 shoulder and told her to move aside. And then Ben Shapiro, 852 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,340 who, at the time, hated Trump, made a big stink about it. 853 00:49:34,340 --> 00:49:38,180 Because Shapiro, I believe, was working for Breitbart, and he 854 00:49:38,180 --> 00:49:41,020 wanted to do his own thing, and so he made a big stink about 855 00:49:41,020 --> 00:49:44,560 Lewandowski beating up this poor woman, and him and the woman 856 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,160 started their own operation, Daily Caller, or whatever the 857 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,380 hell it is, daily wire, daily, daily 858 00:49:50,380 --> 00:49:53,440 Adam Curry: wire, yeah, whatever. But, but she had a 859 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,740 bruise. I remember her showing her. Her whole arm was bruised. 860 00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:02,880 John C Dvorak: It was a the whole thing. Was a scam, and I 861 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,760 really lost a lot of respect for Shapiro at the time, because it 862 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,780 was obvious that he was in on it to make a fuss so he could start 863 00:50:09,780 --> 00:50:12,540 his own thing. So he had an excuse to quit. Buck Breitbart, 864 00:50:14,460 --> 00:50:18,600 Adam Curry: well, so Corey Lewandowski is on MSNBC for some 865 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,560 reason, and he gets into it with Ari Melbourne, Ari melbers 866 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,800 pushing back. And it was just, this was really good television. 867 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:24,920 I 868 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,780 Unknown: do want to turn to something that came up in the 869 00:50:26,780 --> 00:50:28,880 last time we did an interview, and it's been a few years, 870 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,860 you're back here as representative of the campaign. 871 00:50:30,860 --> 00:50:31,760 That's a way back. Machine 872 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:32,720 baby, okay, 873 00:50:32,780 --> 00:50:35,240 Adam Curry: wait a minute. He's back as representative of the 874 00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:38,360 campaign, and is, and the first thing he says is, Whoo, that's a 875 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,280 way back. Machine baby, okay. Trump, fire this guy. 876 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,820 John C Dvorak: It's pretty bad. Can 877 00:50:45,820 --> 00:50:48,220 Adam Curry: someone please get rid of Lewandowski? Well, 878 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,280 Unknown: Corey, when you were on here, we asked you, point blank 879 00:50:51,340 --> 00:50:56,020 about these reports that Donald Trump as president had tried to 880 00:50:56,020 --> 00:51:00,240 use you as a kind of improper cutout to shut down an open 881 00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:03,060 federal probe, which is a big deal. We have some headlines on 882 00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:05,220 that, and we asked you about at 883 00:51:05,220 --> 00:51:07,800 Adam Curry: the time, what federal probe? What was that? I 884 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,180 don't remember you. Now, I 885 00:51:09,180 --> 00:51:11,340 Unknown: want to turn to this to deal with the first time you've 886 00:51:11,340 --> 00:51:13,680 been back since then. Do you want to state for the record 887 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,960 that what you stated on air was false, because people are 888 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,300 listening to you about the campaign, and why should they 889 00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:20,040 believe you if you're lying about other things? 890 00:51:21,900 --> 00:51:25,520 Adam Curry: This is great. It's like, hey, camel lied for 18 891 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,800 minutes. So we're gonna, we're gonna make a fuss about you 892 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,660 lying. Four years ago. 893 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,580 John C Dvorak: Ari, if we're going around the road, are you 894 00:51:31,580 --> 00:51:34,640 gonna state that Donald Trump had a bandage on his ear just 895 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,100 for a spectacle? Are you gonna say that that was false? The guy 896 00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:39,500 got shot in the head, and you said the only reason he had a 897 00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:41,860 bandage on his ear, I can read you the quote if you want 898 00:51:41,860 --> 00:51:45,160 deflection that you said it was just respecting so if you 899 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,000 Unknown: want to answer the question, Corey Ari, you're not 900 00:51:49,660 --> 00:51:52,300 take back your statement. I know what you're referring to, and at 901 00:51:52,300 --> 00:51:54,760 the end of the interview, we can touch base on that. We're going 902 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,820 to finish this question. I will return to that. This 903 00:51:57,820 --> 00:52:01,980 Adam Curry: is, you know, I hope, just for the show sake 904 00:52:02,340 --> 00:52:08,040 that Louie, Louie, Louie corindowski, Corey Lewandowski, 905 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,920 he's now, from now on, he's Louie Corin doski, Louis, he's, 906 00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:15,480 I hope Lou Louie will be press secretary. Please. We have 907 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,220 John C Dvorak: now Now, yes, 908 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:18,600 Adam Curry: yes. There it is. 909 00:52:19,860 --> 00:52:22,220 John C Dvorak: That would be fantastic. Well, 910 00:52:22,220 --> 00:52:24,140 Adam Curry: wait until you hear what we're going to have for the 911 00:52:24,140 --> 00:52:26,360 next four more years. You're 912 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,500 Unknown: clear. I gave you time. I didn't lead with this. I gave 913 00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:34,160 you time to talk about 2024 you got that time, and this is now 914 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,800 your chance to address this. And you're not addressing that's 915 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:37,520 fine. Ari, 916 00:52:39,620 --> 00:52:42,020 you're not addressing the interview. 917 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:48,400 I'm me to respond? I'm gonna I'm gonna respond to you on 918 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,380 Adam Curry: live air. Oh, boy, oh, I have to turn it up. I'm 919 00:52:53,380 --> 00:52:57,160 gonna spawn respond to you on live air or live air. A 920 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,320 Unknown: New York Times article that said at the convention. 921 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,680 Donald Trump was his own biggest prop. It was a New York Times 922 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:10,140 quote about how he let me how he had become such an important 923 00:53:10,140 --> 00:53:12,900 figure in rebounding from what was a horrific assassination 924 00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:16,380 attempt. Fox News, Cory, I said I'd address it. I'm going to 925 00:53:16,380 --> 00:53:20,300 finish Fox News. Many viewers may not know about this, but 926 00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:23,780 apparently you do, and some do, Fox News which has been caught 927 00:53:23,780 --> 00:53:27,320 in defamation ran a false peace defamation, falsely stating 928 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:27,680 that, wait 929 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,600 Adam Curry: a minute, Fox News which has been caught in 930 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,920 defamation so that that would that would pertain to the 931 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,220 Dominion voting machines case, or it has to what else would it 932 00:53:37,220 --> 00:53:39,140 be? So? So Fox News, no good, 933 00:53:39,140 --> 00:53:41,200 Unknown: falsely stating that I said something else that I 934 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,220 didn't say. So I stand on that. I stand on the New York you 935 00:53:45,220 --> 00:53:46,060 didn't say 936 00:53:46,180 --> 00:53:46,660 this 937 00:53:46,660 --> 00:53:49,840 bandage was a proper spectacle from a candidate with 938 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,580 spectacles, Mr. Landowski 939 00:53:53,380 --> 00:53:56,980 Adam Curry: brought out the Mr. Mr. Louis. 940 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,780 Unknown: And if you, I'm putting you on notice. If you continue 941 00:54:03,780 --> 00:54:04,020 to, 942 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,680 Adam Curry: oh, no, he's being put on notice by Ari Melbourne. 943 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,060 Oh, this is bad. I'm putting you 944 00:54:09,060 --> 00:54:12,240 Unknown: on notice. If you continue to repeat falsely that 945 00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:14,880 I said that you will be potentially in a defamation 946 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,240 situation. I'm gonna sue your ass buddy, because I didn't say 947 00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:20,160 that. But I understand that you're working off the 948 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,340 John C Dvorak: internet. Definitely misquoting somebody's 949 00:54:22,340 --> 00:54:25,100 not defamation. He's full of shit, this guy, but 950 00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:29,240 Adam Curry: Ari knows rap lyrics So, so okay, that 951 00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:31,820 Unknown: I said that you will be potentially in a defamation 952 00:54:31,820 --> 00:54:34,580 situation because I didn't say that, but I understand that 953 00:54:34,580 --> 00:54:36,800 you're working off the internet, which is a lot of false 954 00:54:37,220 --> 00:54:40,060 information. With that and Corey Lewandowski, we gave you time. I 955 00:54:40,060 --> 00:54:42,580 appreciate you coming to prison for that. Thank you for joining 956 00:54:42,700 --> 00:54:48,280 Adam Curry: me. Oh, hung up on him. Rage Quit. Oh, man, please, 957 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:54,580 please, Mr. Trump, make him your press secretary. So good. What 958 00:54:54,580 --> 00:54:59,020 is that guy doing? And wasn't he? Remember he was banging 959 00:54:59,020 --> 00:54:59,860 Christy Nome. 960 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,100 Unknown: Lewandowski, 961 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,840 Adam Curry: I think so. Oh, 962 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,420 John C Dvorak: no, way, yes, yes, way, 963 00:55:07,380 --> 00:55:12,900 Adam Curry: Lou and dowski Gnome, think so. 964 00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:15,600 John C Dvorak: I don't think yes, thank you. Christy GNOME, 965 00:55:15,660 --> 00:55:21,800 Adam Curry: Corey Lewandowski affair, shakes up. Trump here. 966 00:55:23,660 --> 00:55:27,380 Yes, they even had a clip about it then, Lewis, 967 00:55:27,380 --> 00:55:30,200 John C Dvorak: you had been the guy who gave her the the tip, if 968 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,680 she doesn't want to be vice president, shoot your dog. Shoot 969 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,680 Adam Curry: your dog. Yes, that yes, that's right, 970 00:55:37,340 --> 00:55:40,660 John C Dvorak: wow. That's a, that's a that's wild, 971 00:55:40,780 --> 00:55:45,220 Adam Curry: yep, yep, yeah, we how much we forget, but not our 972 00:55:45,220 --> 00:55:48,640 trolls. Our trolls remember these things because I would 973 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,340 never say banging, that came from the troll room. Obviously, 974 00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:57,340 John C Dvorak: banging. That's not a British troll. They say 975 00:55:57,340 --> 00:55:58,420 shagging, shagging. 976 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,300 Adam Curry: That's what I should have said, shagging. You're 977 00:56:00,300 --> 00:56:06,360 right. Final thing on this from on the the CNN interview, this 978 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:11,580 is the overview from NBC perspective. Who did not get the 979 00:56:12,060 --> 00:56:15,420 exclusive? You know, Dana Bash is now promoting her book, 980 00:56:16,860 --> 00:56:21,560 coincidentally, and I heard her this morning talking about, 981 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:22,040 what's 982 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,820 John C Dvorak: your book? He's gonna read a Dinah bash book. 983 00:56:25,820 --> 00:56:26,600 Well, 984 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,740 Adam Curry: I mean, someone's gonna buy it. It's America's 985 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:35,060 deadliest election, the cautionary tale of the most 986 00:56:35,060 --> 00:56:40,540 violent election in American history, and that is actually 987 00:56:40,540 --> 00:56:41,920 the violent election of 1872 988 00:56:45,700 --> 00:56:48,880 John C Dvorak: but that will be fascinating, a fascinating read 989 00:56:49,180 --> 00:56:55,840 from a news anchor on CNN about the historic events of 1872 I 990 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:56,860 don't think so. 991 00:56:56,860 --> 00:56:59,680 Adam Curry: The entire country watched in grim fascination as 992 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,940 the wounds of the Civil War were ripped open, and the promise of 993 00:57:02,940 --> 00:57:03,480 President 994 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,160 John C Dvorak: Grant, we're watching TV, 995 00:57:06,420 --> 00:57:08,760 Adam Curry: and President Grant's reconstruction faltered 996 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,120 in the face of violent resistance and the birth of the 997 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:16,500 Ku Klux Klan. Here we go. You see, do you see what this going 998 00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:21,380 on here? In this riveting book, according to Amazon, Dana Bash 999 00:57:21,380 --> 00:57:25,880 and David Fisher, the guy who wrote the book, obviously, David 1000 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,120 Fisher tell the incredible, little known story of the 1001 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:33,740 election. O'Reilly, yes, little known story of the election that 1002 00:57:33,740 --> 00:57:37,340 pushed democracy to the breaking point and sparked historic 1003 00:57:37,340 --> 00:57:41,980 events. Now you're a historian. Do you remember the historic 1004 00:57:41,980 --> 00:57:45,760 events of the 1872 election? It was just a little kid the 1005 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:51,280 Colfax, the Colfax massacre, which at least 150 black men 1006 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,220 were killed by white supremacists, also known as 1007 00:57:54,280 --> 00:58:01,020 Maga, the extraordinary, the extraordinary train race from 1008 00:58:01,020 --> 00:58:04,200 New York to New Orleans for control of the state government. 1009 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,040 They still have the same train running there, the election of 1010 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,160 the first black congressman from from Louisiana in the face of 1011 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,200 violent resistance and the 1012 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,660 John C Dvorak: black a black Republican, I might add, thank 1013 00:58:15,660 --> 00:58:18,360 Adam Curry: you. The Supreme Court ruling that ended 1014 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,840 reconstruction became the foundation of southern 1015 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,500 segregation, changing the American legal system for the 1016 00:58:24,500 --> 00:58:30,800 next century. I mean, this is so planned, and that Dan is saying 1017 00:58:31,220 --> 00:58:34,460 on her own station. And mind you, oh, it's been quite a week. 1018 00:58:34,460 --> 00:58:37,460 It's been, I mean, I've barely got any sleep. I had you this 1019 00:58:37,460 --> 00:58:42,280 incredibly, you know this, it was just exciting interview all 1020 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,800 18 it was, you know, maybe the whole she was interviewing for 1021 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:49,540 the whole week to get those 18 minutes, I don't know. Ah, yes. 1022 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,540 John C Dvorak: Well that I want to play a couple of things here, 1023 00:58:52,540 --> 00:58:56,320 but I doubt you brought that 1872 thing up. I would, I 1024 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,800 wouldn't mind playing these, these clips about Christian 1025 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:05,100 nationalism, which is also playing. Here we go. This is the 1026 00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:12,360 same, the same thing. What you just cited. This is all part. 1027 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,440 It's like the Reagan movie coming out, and movie, yeah, 1028 00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:21,680 it's all both sides are, you know, vying for for attention 1029 00:59:22,220 --> 00:59:26,300 and but this is the most pathetic one. And this is a 1030 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,500 Adam Curry: now repeat that. So this is, this is my beat here. 1031 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,180 Yeah, I'm planning 1032 00:59:32,180 --> 00:59:37,640 John C Dvorak: to miss this. You step on my beat all the time. So 1033 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,320 I didn't have any problem going into No, you go for you go girl. 1034 00:59:42,340 --> 00:59:48,940 But it was, this was on NPR, and the subtext is that, sorry, 1035 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,020 you'll hear the subtext right away, but it's just so it's just 1036 00:59:53,020 --> 00:59:58,780 an anti Trump without ever mentioning Trump ever kind of a 1037 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,840 and it's so. So dumb it this is incredibly dumb. This is a NPR 1038 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,860 special report on Christian nationalism. I actually cut I 1039 01:00:07,980 --> 01:00:11,940 have five short clips. I actually had to cut it off 1040 01:00:11,940 --> 01:00:14,880 because it continued for another 10 minutes and it was just more 1041 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,060 than I could take. But let's play just start with clip one, 1042 01:00:18,420 --> 01:00:18,900 elitist 1043 01:00:18,900 --> 01:00:23,780 Unknown: voices of America. This is NPR. Christian 1044 01:00:23,780 --> 01:00:26,720 nationalism is a movement that has gained momentum in 1045 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,440 conservative circles in recent years. The basic idea is a blend 1046 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,500 of government and religion, specifically Christianity, that 1047 01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:36,800 is way more explicit and intense than it has typically been the 1048 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,280 case throughout American history. What 1049 01:00:41,660 --> 01:00:43,840 Adam Curry: now I'm gonna have to interrupt these from time to 1050 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:44,440 time. Yeah, 1051 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,360 John C Dvorak: you should interrupt because that, what he 1052 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:51,580 just said, is nonsense. There used to be a revivalist moments 1053 01:00:51,580 --> 01:00:55,360 in history that were outrageous. And if you go back this was, 1054 01:00:55,540 --> 01:00:59,140 this is, and when you start to hear the numbers he throws out 1055 01:00:59,140 --> 01:01:01,320 of the number of people that are involved in one thing or 1056 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:06,720 another. Here it's, it's ridiculously low. But okay, here 1057 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,400 we go. Let's hear that again. I 1058 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,840 Adam Curry: gotta hear it again. It's the basic 1059 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,240 Unknown: idea is a blend of government and religion, 1060 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:16,080 specifically Christianity, that is way more explicit and intense 1061 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,660 than it has typically been the case throughout American 1062 01:01:18,660 --> 01:01:19,140 history, 1063 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,200 Adam Curry: except for the actual beginning of it, but 1064 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:21,560 okay, 1065 01:01:21,740 --> 01:01:24,320 Unknown: new public radio podcast takes a look. Oh, it's 1066 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,640 Adam Curry: a podcast. Oh, this wasn't on the air. Yes, it was. 1067 01:01:28,700 --> 01:01:29,960 He says, new public radio, 1068 01:01:30,860 --> 01:01:35,060 John C Dvorak: no, okay, I pulled this right off of the on 1069 01:01:35,060 --> 01:01:39,380 the air feed. He's referring to a podcast that talks about this. 1070 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:40,720 I'm sorry. 1071 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,060 Adam Curry: Okay. All right. All right. I strike that from the 1072 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,280 record. The jury will disregard my remark. The 1073 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,160 Unknown: case throughout American history. A new public 1074 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,160 radio podcast takes a look inside the Christian nationalist 1075 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,220 movement. It's called extremely American Onward Christian 1076 01:01:54,220 --> 01:01:57,520 Soldiers. Here's host Heath druzen and reporter James Dawson 1077 01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:58,960 from Boise State Public Radio. 1078 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:03,000 I'm talking to Gabriel rich, a media personality and activist 1079 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:07,080 in Idaho. Most people call him Gabe. Okay, great. Gabe has a 1080 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,860 lot of ideas about how America should change. He said it would 1081 01:02:10,860 --> 01:02:14,820 probably take a long time, but that you would like to see only 1082 01:02:14,820 --> 01:02:18,180 Christians be able to run for office. So if you're Jewish, if 1083 01:02:18,180 --> 01:02:21,620 you're Muslim, if you're atheist, certainly, if I had you 1084 01:02:21,620 --> 01:02:24,620 right, you said that, yes, you would. You would support 1085 01:02:24,620 --> 01:02:27,140 eventually that them not being allowed to run for office. 1086 01:02:27,140 --> 01:02:27,380 That's 1087 01:02:27,380 --> 01:02:33,020 Adam Curry: correct. I did say that because Gabe, is it? So 1088 01:02:33,020 --> 01:02:36,080 this guy? Where do they dig this guy up? What's his name? What's 1089 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:40,040 his last name? Gabe. This is Gabe from Idaho. I'm surprised I 1090 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,760 don't have him on my in my podcast app. I 1091 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,520 John C Dvorak: think he should be. He's not on your phone with 1092 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:47,680 you. Push a button you call 1093 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,900 Adam Curry: him. Hey, Gabe, let's get all them Muslims out 1094 01:02:49,900 --> 01:02:52,600 of Congress. Man, this no good. This is, this is what the Lord 1095 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:53,800 wants. I did say that 1096 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,340 Unknown: because Gabe is a proud Christian nationalist. 1097 01:02:57,460 --> 01:03:01,740 Adam Curry: I think that the Christian faith is the ideal 1098 01:03:02,940 --> 01:03:07,080 John C Dvorak: stop again. You have to and back it up. This guy 1099 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:11,760 is so adenoidal. It's like, if I had a talk, I was gonna talk 1100 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,100 like this, because I can't really breathe through my dose. 1101 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:18,600 I'm not absolutely sure why, but it just can't get any air out. 1102 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:18,840 What's 1103 01:03:18,900 --> 01:03:22,280 Adam Curry: it what is his name? Gabe, right. What is his name? 1104 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:24,800 John C Dvorak: Gabe some. Well, I 1105 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,900 Adam Curry: gotta find him. I mean, I'm looking in 1106 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,200 John C Dvorak: the definitely, definitely, Gabe 1107 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:34,880 Adam Curry: wrench, okay, Gabe wrench, are not with a W, I'm 1108 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,900 just looking at his website. 1109 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,020 John C Dvorak: Dave wrench, wrench, 1110 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,080 Adam Curry: r, e, n, C, H, like French without the F. This is a 1111 01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,260 good old boy. He's got his hat on. He's sitting in his rocking 1112 01:03:47,260 --> 01:03:50,560 chair on the porch with a cigar and 1113 01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:55,120 John C Dvorak: his big cigar, a smoker and a drinker and 1114 01:03:55,180 --> 01:03:58,960 Adam Curry: a Texas mug, even though he's in Boise. Okay, here 1115 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,380 we go. I did say that, because 1116 01:04:01,380 --> 01:04:04,200 Unknown: Gabe is a proud Christian nationalist, 1117 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:08,640 Adam Curry: I think that the Christian faith is the ideal 1118 01:04:09,780 --> 01:04:14,340 moral doctrine and principles for a thriving society. And the 1119 01:04:14,340 --> 01:04:16,980 farther you get away from that, the more in chaos we descend. 1120 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,640 And so the only way to maintain that, or one of the ways 1121 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,420 maintain that is you have to have people who are running for 1122 01:04:23,420 --> 01:04:26,660 office who believe that, or you're gonna get back into that 1123 01:04:27,020 --> 01:04:31,820 chaotic decline. That doesn't mean that they can't be agnostic 1124 01:04:31,820 --> 01:04:36,380 or, you know, or atheists. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, chaotic 1125 01:04:36,380 --> 01:04:36,920 decline. 1126 01:04:37,220 --> 01:04:40,160 Unknown: So I'll tell you straight up as a Jewish 1127 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:46,420 American. Oh, there it is that I can't run for office. Other non 1128 01:04:46,420 --> 01:04:49,720 Christians can't. And I have to admit, it's a little terrifying 1129 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:57,520 to me, because to me, that means a fundamental freedom of mine in 1130 01:04:57,820 --> 01:04:59,920 this theoretical world is gone. 1131 01:05:00,660 --> 01:05:04,680 Adam Curry: Oh, okay, so what is this? Where do they dig this guy 1132 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:05,700 up? This is great 1133 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,640 John C Dvorak: well as this is what you do, because it's to 1134 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,880 scare the NPR audience into thinking, this is what's going 1135 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:18,360 on with Trump. Oh, my Lord, Trump doesn't want Jews, but the 1136 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,920 office Trump doesn't want any Muslims, or anybody, or or the 1137 01:05:21,980 --> 01:05:25,940 atheists that run the country, they don't want to know. This is 1138 01:05:25,940 --> 01:05:28,340 what you're going to get. You're going to get because but you 1139 01:05:28,340 --> 01:05:32,000 find some guy like this. This is so this reminds me of the old 1140 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,720 trick where you you set up a debate with two people, and you 1141 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:39,620 pick both of them, yeah, and you have one guy who's on your side, 1142 01:05:39,620 --> 01:05:42,640 and he's very reasonable, smart guy, and then you bring the 1143 01:05:42,700 --> 01:05:47,260 dumbest weirdo that you can think of, and put that person on 1144 01:05:47,260 --> 01:05:50,080 the other side, and have them do a debate in public, and then see 1145 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,360 what happens. This is, this is a setup. The only, 1146 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,480 Adam Curry: the only thing that, that, I think, is, you know, 1147 01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,900 Christian nationalism is, you know, the so called Judeo, by 1148 01:05:58,900 --> 01:06:03,600 the way, note the term Judeo Christian values, which our 1149 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,740 constitution is derived from, basically the 10 Commandments. 1150 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:12,480 And the founders were were all into it, but I don't think the 1151 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:16,020 first in the Bill of Rights is like first amendments, like 1152 01:06:16,020 --> 01:06:19,440 freedom of religion. There's no and it doesn't explicit there, 1153 01:06:19,500 --> 01:06:23,480 explicitly stating no religious test. Did that come up in this 1154 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:28,040 interview? No, yeah, you're saying that in a country where 1155 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,800 you experience all these immense freedoms that was built on the 1156 01:06:31,340 --> 01:06:33,320 Unknown: Christian faith, so where I can run for office right 1157 01:06:34,340 --> 01:06:36,620 now? Yeah, because your worldview is not good for 1158 01:06:36,620 --> 01:06:37,760 society. So 1159 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:42,160 Gabe wants biblical law to apply to everyone. That means a lot 1160 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,760 less democracy, especially for non Christians like me, 1161 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,040 Adam Curry: this is great biblical law that means a lot 1162 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,140 less democracy. Okay, 1163 01:06:53,500 --> 01:06:56,200 Unknown: I should probably pause a moment here to acknowledge the 1164 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,620 bizarre journey I've been on for the past year. Please do I've 1165 01:06:59,620 --> 01:07:03,000 mentioned before that I'm Jewish, and it has been surreal, 1166 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,320 dude. 1167 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,420 John C Dvorak: Hey, tell us again. Are you I've mentioned 1168 01:07:09,420 --> 01:07:13,080 Unknown: before that I'm Jewish, and it has been surreal to be 1169 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,480 immersed in this world of Christian nationalism. 1170 01:07:15,780 --> 01:07:18,480 Adam Curry: Well, Jews don't believe in Jesus, so let's start 1171 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:19,740 there. Don't 1172 01:07:19,740 --> 01:07:22,880 Unknown: get me wrong, people like Gabe have been unfailingly 1173 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:27,380 polite, which frankly, makes it weirder, weirder and being 1174 01:07:27,380 --> 01:07:31,820 politely told I don't deserve key rights. But the reason I'm 1175 01:07:31,820 --> 01:07:35,600 here listening to Gabe explain why I should lose my rights is 1176 01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:39,800 not to feel uncomfortable. It's because plenty of people agree 1177 01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:40,220 with him. 1178 01:07:40,940 --> 01:07:43,000 Adam Curry: Oh, so that's make that you're supposed to make the 1179 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,680 listener feel uncomfortable. 1180 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:49,900 John C Dvorak: Yeah, and plenty of plenty with this guy. And 1181 01:07:49,900 --> 01:07:53,200 notice, and by the way, they're all Trump voters. 1182 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,020 Adam Curry: And notice the key term weird being slipped in 1183 01:07:56,020 --> 01:07:56,980 there. Yes, 1184 01:07:56,980 --> 01:08:00,120 John C Dvorak: he slipped that in. The whole thing is, this is 1185 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:07,980 an anti Trump presentation that is all subtext, subtextual, and 1186 01:08:07,980 --> 01:08:14,280 it is extremely subversive, and I it it's disgusting, it's 1187 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:18,360 disgusting, and it's basically a lie. But let's continue. There's 1188 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,840 all kinds of people that would think, just like this guy, 1189 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:22,100 there's more. There's more. 1190 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,620 Unknown: Gabe is part of a younger vanguard of Christian 1191 01:08:24,620 --> 01:08:28,640 nationalists trying to make their vision a reality, and 1192 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,520 they're spreading their word through popular streaming shows, 1193 01:08:31,700 --> 01:08:34,340 including gabe's creation cross politic. 1194 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,440 Adam Curry: Merry Christmas. Could not wait. They couldn't 1195 01:08:39,440 --> 01:08:42,400 get a more recent version. They had to get, they had to take the 1196 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,160 Merry Christmas show. Is that I 1197 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:46,600 John C Dvorak: don't know what they're doing. Interesting. 1198 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,300 Adam Curry: Merry Christmas. Welcome to cross politic. I 1199 01:08:49,480 --> 01:08:52,480 could not wait for the weekend to end. 1200 01:08:52,899 --> 01:08:55,239 Unknown: Across now to begin. Cross 1201 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,060 politic is a mash up of fundamentalist religion, 1202 01:08:58,240 --> 01:08:59,980 politics and drinking. 1203 01:09:02,319 --> 01:09:05,039 Adam Curry: They're all drunks, so it's kind of faster paced 1204 01:09:05,039 --> 01:09:09,659 show, and, you know, a little rough around the edges. So I 1205 01:09:09,659 --> 01:09:13,139 think that's attractive to a younger generation. Our music, 1206 01:09:13,139 --> 01:09:14,759 you know, is a little more hard hitting. 1207 01:09:15,060 --> 01:09:17,820 Unknown: These aren't the mega church pastors of your with 1208 01:09:17,820 --> 01:09:21,980 their faith healing and fire and brimstone, those guys focused on 1209 01:09:21,980 --> 01:09:28,280 arena size. Gabe and his allies, he's popular, streaming, savvy, 1210 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:29,120 yeah, 1211 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:33,140 John C Dvorak: straight out going on. Uh, this guy doesn't 1212 01:09:33,140 --> 01:09:36,200 know what he's talking about. Uh, mega churches do anything 1213 01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:37,880 but, but Byron, exactly. 1214 01:09:38,300 --> 01:09:40,660 Adam Curry: That's as much smaller churches do that kind of 1215 01:09:40,660 --> 01:09:41,620 stuff? Yeah, 1216 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,840 John C Dvorak: no, the mega churches are based are 1217 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,780 entertainment vehicles. They're they have large audiences, and 1218 01:09:46,780 --> 01:09:51,820 they put on a show correct, and it's a good show. So this guy 1219 01:09:51,820 --> 01:09:55,120 doesn't know what he's saying. But okay, we're going to 1220 01:09:55,180 --> 01:09:57,880 generalize based on the fact that you don't know what you're 1221 01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,120 talking about. But let's continue, because this. Is 1222 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:03,060 really not about that anyway. It's about Trump. 1223 01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:07,860 Unknown: Those guys focused on arena sized church crowds, Gabe 1224 01:10:07,860 --> 01:10:11,820 and his allies use popular streaming shows and savvy social 1225 01:10:11,820 --> 01:10:15,960 media. They have followers around the country. They write 1226 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,620 books extolling the patriarchy, and want their followers to get 1227 01:10:19,620 --> 01:10:20,720 political. Well, hold 1228 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,080 Adam Curry: on, what books extolling the patriarchy? This 1229 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,760 is this. They write books extolling the 1230 01:10:26,180 --> 01:10:27,140 John C Dvorak: patriarchy. Yeah, The 1231 01:10:27,140 --> 01:10:29,360 Adam Curry: Handmaid's Tale project 2025 they 1232 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,480 Unknown: have followers around the country. They write books 1233 01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:35,840 extolling the patriarchy. And want their followers to get 1234 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,720 political and get more Christ into government. 1235 01:10:38,780 --> 01:10:42,580 They love to get into my tribe, your tribe, tribalism and all 1236 01:10:42,580 --> 01:10:43,660 sorts of nonsense. 1237 01:10:43,780 --> 01:10:46,900 Gabe and his Christian nationalist peers are a whiskey 1238 01:10:46,900 --> 01:10:51,220 drinking, cigar smoking set that favor expensive boots and well 1239 01:10:51,220 --> 01:10:54,760 quaffed hair. Oh, yes, you Adam 1240 01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:59,380 Adam Curry: me. Well, expensive boots and well quaffed hair. Oh, 1241 01:10:59,500 --> 01:11:03,600 oh, hey, maybe you know, just thinking back to that opening 1242 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,780 where he says, Yes, I did say that. It sounds like that might 1243 01:11:06,780 --> 01:11:09,180 have been something that was taken out of context. Is that 1244 01:11:09,180 --> 01:11:16,020 possible? No, no, no, no. Gabe means it. V means it. No Jews in 1245 01:11:16,020 --> 01:11:19,560 Congress, too many of them. Sounds about right for the 1246 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:25,160 Christian nationalism. What clip are we on? We're on four kick. 1247 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,200 Art says, okay, 1248 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:30,980 John C Dvorak: yeah. Play, yeah, play, please. 1249 01:11:30,980 --> 01:11:32,180 Unknown: What we drinking? Um, 1250 01:11:33,140 --> 01:11:34,880 this is uh, Clinton fittic, 14 1251 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,280 Adam Curry: year. I don't know if this is what from a listener. 1252 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:41,920 Hold on a second. What kind of Merkin is that drinking that 1253 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:46,360 Fern whiskey, single malt, no less. What happened to Jack baby 1254 01:11:46,540 --> 01:11:46,960 kind 1255 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:51,520 Unknown: of hipster theocrats with a distinctly bro motif and 1256 01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:55,780 business is good. These guys have popular books, a large 1257 01:11:55,780 --> 01:11:59,740 podcast and a YouTube channel with about 20,000 subscribers. I 1258 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:00,240 ah, 1259 01:12:06,540 --> 01:12:10,560 Adam Curry: 20,000 subscribers on YouTube. Well, yeah, wow, 1260 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,660 they're rocking it, and they're marching on their they're 1261 01:12:12,660 --> 01:12:15,960 marching their way to Washington, DC, everybody. So 1262 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,060 John C Dvorak: when I heard that's obviously why I cut this 1263 01:12:18,060 --> 01:12:18,780 one short, I 1264 01:12:18,780 --> 01:12:20,720 Adam Curry: can't wait to be on this guy's podcast. 1265 01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:27,680 John C Dvorak: This guy is, is a loser. And, you know, 20,000 uh, 1266 01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,860 subscribers on YouTube is not falling off. That's not even 1267 01:12:30,860 --> 01:12:33,740 falling off a log. That's the algo just signing up. 1268 01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,360 Adam Curry: The algos barely hit you with that. So, 1269 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:43,120 John C Dvorak: so this is a, an extreme this, this presentation 1270 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,840 on NPR, very pathetic, is what, what this is. It's, it's 1271 01:12:46,900 --> 01:12:50,440 pathetic, but it's, it probably works, because the NPR people 1272 01:12:50,440 --> 01:12:53,680 are so naive and dumb the listeners. And by the way, if 1273 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:57,880 anyone's sending money to these, these folks, please send it far 1274 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,300 away instead, because you're getting real information, as 1275 01:13:00,300 --> 01:13:04,200 opposed to, this is essentially a lie, what this presentation 1276 01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:08,640 is. Yeah, there it is, 20,000 Oh, they've got popular books, a 1277 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:15,600 big, popular podcast, and 20,000 subscribers on YouTube. This is, 1278 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,840 like the typical one of these shows, like, what do you think 1279 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,340 Jordan Peterson's got to get what? 5 million people on 1280 01:13:22,340 --> 01:13:23,600 YouTube. I mean, now 1281 01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:27,740 Adam Curry: this Gabe guy has written exactly zero books. He 1282 01:13:27,740 --> 01:13:30,200 hasn't written any books, at least not. 1283 01:13:30,500 --> 01:13:32,660 John C Dvorak: Oh, you're, you're on his web page. Yeah, he 1284 01:13:32,660 --> 01:13:34,160 would have his books listed, yeah. He 1285 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,100 Adam Curry: says, my writings, and it's just blog posts. 1286 01:13:37,100 --> 01:13:42,520 There's no books about me. Now, let's read about me. He was born 1287 01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:46,240 in the promised lands of Texas. Six states later, he ended up in 1288 01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,940 Moscow, Idaho. Can't believe you're in some commie named 1289 01:13:48,940 --> 01:13:54,700 town. He graduated. He graduated from the University of Idaho. 1290 01:13:55,300 --> 01:13:59,800 Man, although I will say, if you look at his family, good looking 1291 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,120 family, but he literally has the girls dressed up in Handmaid's 1292 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,140 Tale outfits. 1293 01:14:05,700 --> 01:14:08,700 John C Dvorak: This whole thing sounds fixed. It 1294 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:14,400 Adam Curry: does Okay, all right. Last clip is a word from 1295 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:15,180 Texas. And 1296 01:14:15,180 --> 01:14:18,000 Unknown: each year, leading Christian nationalist thinkers 1297 01:14:18,060 --> 01:14:20,960 as well as rank and file believers gather at a 1298 01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,100 conference. As 1299 01:14:22,100 --> 01:14:24,320 Adam Curry: soon as I walked on campus, someone handed me a 1300 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,080 glass of whiskey, and I was like, All right, I'm at the 1301 01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,300 fight laugh feast conference. Now it's official. It's 1302 01:14:29,300 --> 01:14:29,840 official. 1303 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,540 Unknown: This is gabe's creation, but one of the ways 1304 01:14:32,540 --> 01:14:35,660 fight laugh feast is four days of fundamentalist Christians 1305 01:14:35,780 --> 01:14:39,200 talking to Christians about being Christian. One of 1306 01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,380 Adam Curry: the gifts that God has given us is to be able to 1307 01:14:41,380 --> 01:14:43,720 kind of be a place where we could bring like minded 1308 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:44,620 Christians together. 1309 01:14:44,860 --> 01:14:48,220 Unknown: So journey and I went church, anybody flew across the 1310 01:14:48,220 --> 01:14:51,580 country to where Gabe and his compatriots were brainstorming a 1311 01:14:51,580 --> 01:14:54,820 Christian takeover of America. We're in the Northern Kentucky 1312 01:14:54,820 --> 01:14:56,440 countryside. The landscape 1313 01:14:56,440 --> 01:14:59,920 is rolling and wooded with lots of farms and of course. 1314 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,440 Distilleries. But we're not here just as an excuse to go bourbon 1315 01:15:04,440 --> 01:15:09,060 tasting. We're here to attend fight, laugh, feast. The theme 1316 01:15:09,060 --> 01:15:13,380 is the politics of the six days of creation. This, of course, is 1317 01:15:13,380 --> 01:15:17,880 the granddaddy of Bible verses, Genesis. One in the beginning, 1318 01:15:18,060 --> 01:15:22,820 God created the heavens and the earth. From there, each day, God 1319 01:15:22,820 --> 01:15:26,540 creates a new facet of the earth. And on the seventh day, 1320 01:15:26,540 --> 01:15:30,860 he rests. And yeah, Christian nationalists definitely go with 1321 01:15:30,860 --> 01:15:32,420 he creation 1322 01:15:32,420 --> 01:15:33,200 in six days, 1323 01:15:35,480 --> 01:15:38,420 Adam Curry: those dirty Christian nationalists, 1324 01:15:38,660 --> 01:15:43,960 Patriarch, Patriarch. God is a he? Oh no, creation in 1325 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:49,240 Unknown: six days, a gigantic floating zoo with giraffes 1326 01:15:49,300 --> 01:15:53,500 sticking their heads out the windows, burning bushes, 1327 01:15:54,580 --> 01:15:59,980 donkeys, dragons and unicorns. Resurrection from the dead. 1328 01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,180 Yeah, we believe all of 1329 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:08,340 Adam Curry: it. Oh, man, this is so awesome. Well, I'm sure 1330 01:16:08,340 --> 01:16:11,580 people are shaking in their boots. You really think that 1331 01:16:11,580 --> 01:16:16,260 works? Yeah, I don't think. I think what they did wrong is 1332 01:16:16,500 --> 01:16:19,320 they took it into they keep saying some backwoods and, you 1333 01:16:19,380 --> 01:16:22,400 know, people don't care about that they care about if it's in 1334 01:16:22,460 --> 01:16:26,840 Boise, no. Well, figure wrong. That's pretty 1335 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,000 John C Dvorak: funny. I think this and it continues. They went 1336 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:30,920 on and on about unicorns, actually. 1337 01:16:31,460 --> 01:16:34,340 Adam Curry: And I have not had, I gotta ask pastor Jimmy for the 1338 01:16:34,340 --> 01:16:35,300 unicorn sermon, 1339 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,880 John C Dvorak: yeah. And they then they cited the Bible talks 1340 01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:41,020 about unicorns X number of times. And they're obviously, 1341 01:16:41,020 --> 01:16:44,620 and these guys are big believers in the unicorn, and it goes on 1342 01:16:44,620 --> 01:16:47,500 and on again. Just after a while, I had to cut it off 1343 01:16:47,500 --> 01:16:50,440 because it was, like, ridiculous. But this is a 1344 01:16:50,440 --> 01:16:55,000 propagandistic technique that they like to use at NPR of 1345 01:16:55,120 --> 01:17:01,080 creating a bogus world that is a threat to you, yeah. And this is 1346 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:05,100 very, you know, this is this, I mean little. I mean, cult. Did 1347 01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:06,120 they do 1348 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,600 Adam Curry: a whole series on the Jews in the tunnels in New 1349 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:13,140 York? Or did this guy not cover that if you wanted, if you 1350 01:17:13,140 --> 01:17:13,740 wanted to 1351 01:17:13,980 --> 01:17:17,340 John C Dvorak: know, probably did. But the point is, this is, 1352 01:17:17,340 --> 01:17:25,100 like, all very subtle to me, subtle. Anti Trump propaganda, 1353 01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:29,660 anti subtle. It's Republican. It's not so subtle at all. I 1354 01:17:29,660 --> 01:17:34,460 consider it to be subtle. And if you're a believer of the 1355 01:17:34,460 --> 01:17:37,580 Democrat side of things, and you're listening to this, you're 1356 01:17:37,580 --> 01:17:41,860 not noticing that, you're just appalled. It's make you 1357 01:17:41,860 --> 01:17:46,840 appalled, and then to make you connected to the Yeah. Why you 1358 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,800 appalled? Well, because of the patriarchy and unified you 1359 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,920 appalled. Well, it's because these Christian nut cases that 1360 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,220 are all voting for Trump. Yeah. They're a threat to democracy. 1361 01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,160 Yeah. The whole thing is really 1362 01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,280 Adam Curry: Trump is begging them to come out and vote, 1363 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:12,960 please, CD. CD is a good word. Wow. Well, seems to be a lack of 1364 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:17,100 history of the country the way he's presenting it. But okay, 1365 01:18:18,300 --> 01:18:20,540 John C Dvorak: it is, of course, because they're not teaching 1366 01:18:20,540 --> 01:18:24,920 anybody anything in schools except gender affirming care. 1367 01:18:24,980 --> 01:18:29,840 Adam Curry: Oh, speaking of such and the patriarchy. CBC, over 1368 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,020 there in Scandinavia, which of course, is our beta test ground, 1369 01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:37,940 they've introduced a new term to the lexicon. It's not a new 1370 01:18:37,940 --> 01:18:41,680 term, but in this context, it was new to me. Good evening. We 1371 01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,320 Unknown: begin tonight with the latest on a murder investigation 1372 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:48,280 in the city's west end. A 47 year old woman is dead after 1373 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,800 police were called to a home in a rural area early yesterday 1374 01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,880 evening, her 55 year old husband is now charged with second 1375 01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,700 degree murder, and Ottawa police are calling the murder a 1376 01:18:57,700 --> 01:19:00,720 femicide, a rare use of the label by the service femicide 1377 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,660 described as the killing of a woman or girl by a man, 1378 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:05,880 Adam Curry: femicide, 1379 01:19:06,660 --> 01:19:08,820 John C Dvorak: femicide was bringing that in. Well, 1380 01:19:08,820 --> 01:19:10,620 Adam Curry: here's a brief explanation. 1381 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,860 Unknown: Police say her death was related to an alleged act of 1382 01:19:13,860 --> 01:19:15,840 intimate partner violence. The 1383 01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,560 details determined that it met the criteria for femicide. 1384 01:19:19,740 --> 01:19:25,640 Femicide is really about women and girls who are murdered for 1385 01:19:26,300 --> 01:19:29,540 their gender and usually for misogynistic reasons. 1386 01:19:32,660 --> 01:19:38,240 Adam Curry: Wow, femicide. But let's call abortion choice and 1387 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:44,920 not infanticide. They hate to be doing that, but it's just, it's 1388 01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,980 okay. We're in, we're in crazy times, man, crazy. It's 1389 01:19:47,980 --> 01:19:49,660 John C Dvorak: just crazy. It's crazy down, 1390 01:19:50,440 --> 01:19:53,020 Adam Curry: crazy town. I don't know what to make of it. So 1391 01:19:53,020 --> 01:19:59,260 crazy. Well, let's see. I could make it a little bit crazier. 1392 01:19:59,740 --> 01:20:05,940 But. By bringing you. Okay, here we go. Let's start. Let's just 1393 01:20:05,940 --> 01:20:10,740 ease into it. Let's ease into it, because France is very 1394 01:20:10,740 --> 01:20:14,220 concerned about their flamingos. Did you were you aware of 1395 01:20:14,220 --> 01:20:19,140 France, France's flamingos? Not at all. Neither was I. I was 1396 01:20:19,140 --> 01:20:23,240 very, very surprised about the love of the French flamingos 1397 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:23,960 shimmering 1398 01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:27,680 Unknown: planes and lagoons. As far as the eye can see in the 1399 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,580 southwesterly corner of France's Mediterranean coastline, these 1400 01:20:31,580 --> 01:20:34,880 elegant silhouettes streak across the horizon an iconic 1401 01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:39,140 part of the landscape. Some 5000 Pink Flamingos live in and 1402 01:20:39,140 --> 01:20:42,640 around the salt marshes, performing their nightly ballet 1403 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:46,120 for these delighted tourists, captivated by the natural 1404 01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:50,140 spectacle, they're so endearing. Their colors, the way they fly 1405 01:20:50,140 --> 01:20:53,200 and the way they move in a group, has been an inch divide 1406 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:57,160 in this region for 12 years. He's an expert in Flamingo 1407 01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:57,820 behavior. 1408 01:20:58,300 --> 01:21:01,620 Diet, small varieties of seaweed, or shrimp. Planktonite 1409 01:21:01,860 --> 01:21:04,560 are readily available in large quantities, and that's what they 1410 01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:04,680 eat. 1411 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,420 Yet this diet's part of a delicate balancing act. As 1412 01:21:09,420 --> 01:21:12,840 global warming causes water levels to rise, the fear is that 1413 01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,840 these planes could flood, submerging the landscape and 1414 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,120 making it uninhabitable for the birds. 1415 01:21:18,180 --> 01:21:21,740 Adam Curry: So nothing's happened. The birds are fine, 1416 01:21:21,740 --> 01:21:25,520 but because of climate change, you could lose your flamingos, 1417 01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,120 which I guess, is the national bird of France, 1418 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:30,680 Unknown: due to climate change. 1419 01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,880 Adam Curry: So due to climate change, this was a beautiful 1420 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:39,080 promo that I came across, and it's a special that I must 1421 01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:44,200 watch. It's from Channel Five in the UK. Do you remember 1976 in 1422 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,120 the UK? What happened in the UK 1423 01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:49,960 John C Dvorak: in 76 in the UK? And I 1424 01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,540 Adam Curry: didn't remember I was in Holland. So I think I 1425 01:21:52,540 --> 01:21:56,320 remember this part of that was in Holland too. But does 1426 01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:57,880 John C Dvorak: that something to do with Yoko 1427 01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:00,720 Adam Curry: close in 1976 1428 01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,460 Unknown: the UK was one of the hottest places on earth. You 1429 01:22:05,460 --> 01:22:08,040 never saw a cloud. It was like living in the Mediterranean. 1430 01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:15,900 Imagine a summer when Britain ran out of water. Well, the flow 1431 01:22:15,900 --> 01:22:19,320 of the Thames has now, in fact, stopped. The perception 1432 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:19,860 of England 1433 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:24,920 was that it always rain, temperatures reaching 36 degrees 1434 01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:30,680 centigrade, lasting for 10 long weeks. All of a sudden we were 1435 01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:32,000 into a parallel universe 1436 01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:32,660 and 1437 01:22:32,900 --> 01:22:37,640 45 days without a drop of rain. To ask for two solid weeks of 1438 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:41,140 rain is like crying for the moon. That's when we started to 1439 01:22:41,140 --> 01:22:45,700 take it very seriously, leading to the most devastating drought 1440 01:22:45,700 --> 01:22:46,300 for 250 1441 01:22:47,380 --> 01:22:52,420 years. Water supplied to this area will be constructed between 1442 01:22:52,420 --> 01:22:53,260 the hours of 12pm 1443 01:22:55,180 --> 01:22:58,420 I'd taken water for granted all my life. I think it really 1444 01:22:58,420 --> 01:23:01,800 drought for minutes, worse than the war in there, it was, Oh, my 1445 01:23:01,860 --> 01:23:07,860 God, this is the like of which we've never known. But as Brits, 1446 01:23:07,860 --> 01:23:11,460 rose to the challenge. I never actually bathed with a friend 1447 01:23:11,460 --> 01:23:13,980 because I didn't have a friend at the time I fancied enough to 1448 01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,760 have a bath with for kids, it was a summer that seemed to last 1449 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:18,720 forever. We 1450 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:22,220 just played out. I just remember Yeah, with unalloyed happiness, 1451 01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:22,880 were 1452 01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:26,840 these the most Halcyon Days in British history? Everyone was 1453 01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,960 stripping off. It was just bliss. Everyone was popping off 1454 01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:33,860 with absolutely everyone. But when the weather finally broke, 1455 01:23:34,340 --> 01:23:38,420 grid plopping drops of rain, ending 1456 01:23:38,420 --> 01:23:43,360 months of communal standpipes for millions of bricks, society 1457 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,220 would never be the same again. 1458 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:49,720 Adam Curry: I mean, this is a great report. The Thames dried 1459 01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:55,660 up in 1976 people hadn't there was no water. It was worse than 1460 01:23:55,660 --> 01:24:00,300 the war, and the kids loved it. They weren't being told to be 1461 01:24:00,300 --> 01:24:04,860 afraid of climate change, and they were taking baths together. 1462 01:24:06,300 --> 01:24:10,920 It was great. No one really talks about the summer of 1976 1463 01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:12,420 now do they? 1464 01:24:13,140 --> 01:24:15,540 John C Dvorak: No, why would they? It makes it, makes it 1465 01:24:15,540 --> 01:24:19,200 falls out of the timeline that you want. But something 1466 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,800 happened. This happened again in the 80s, because I remember 1467 01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:26,600 going to England with Mimi and and the it was another one of 1468 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,220 these weird droughts, 80, I'm 1469 01:24:28,220 --> 01:24:32,180 Adam Curry: going to say 80, 1980 itself, maybe, maybe was it 1470 01:24:32,180 --> 01:24:32,780 really? It 1471 01:24:32,780 --> 01:24:35,600 John C Dvorak: could be. But whatever the case, it was a 1472 01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:41,680 probably wasn't 1980 or later. Yeah, but it was the Hyde Park 1473 01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:46,900 was dead, dead. The grass was all brown. It was all it was 1474 01:24:46,900 --> 01:24:50,620 just like 76 problem. This happens a lot. 1475 01:24:50,740 --> 01:24:53,560 Adam Curry: It's called Summer. It's called Summer, 1476 01:24:53,740 --> 01:24:57,940 John C Dvorak: by the way, yes, the red jungle fowl or the 1477 01:24:57,940 --> 01:25:02,100 Gaelic rooster, that. Is the national bird of France. Oh, 1478 01:25:02,100 --> 01:25:02,460 thank 1479 01:25:02,460 --> 01:25:06,480 Adam Curry: you. Good to know. I'm gonna stick with the UK, 1480 01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,140 because there was, there's a video that's gone viral in the 1481 01:25:10,500 --> 01:25:14,220 in the UK, and when I say viral, I mean millions of views on 1482 01:25:14,220 --> 01:25:17,040 Tiktok. So I'm surprised it didn't show up in your algo, 1483 01:25:18,660 --> 01:25:23,540 reposted everywhere, millions of views on x. Have you seen a day 1484 01:25:23,540 --> 01:25:27,500 in the life of an Englishman? No, so you have to kind of get 1485 01:25:27,500 --> 01:25:32,120 into it, because it's obviously a Brit so he uses a bit of slang 1486 01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:36,560 and a bit of language. He's walking around doing a typical 1487 01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:41,140 selfie stick walk through the streets of London, and he is 1488 01:25:41,140 --> 01:25:44,500 going to explain a typical day. It's like an update of the 1489 01:25:44,500 --> 01:25:47,620 Beatles day in the life, only different. Let's tell 1490 01:25:47,620 --> 01:25:50,440 Unknown: you a little story. All right, sit back, relax and enjoy 1491 01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,320 it's called a day in the life of an Englishman. Now, picture 1492 01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,960 this. You're in London. It costs more than you earn to live here, 1493 01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,240 so you're slowly accumulating there. You can't afford a 1494 01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:00,900 holiday, so you're addicted to drugs, just to fucking escape 1495 01:26:00,900 --> 01:26:04,500 your life. The weather's shit. The people that live here are 1496 01:26:04,500 --> 01:26:06,600 even shitter and they hate each other with a passion, and you 1497 01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:08,940 can't afford to leave. There's homeless people all over the 1498 01:26:08,940 --> 01:26:12,000 place. The shops are boarded up because of covid. Anyway, you 1499 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,760 wake up one morning to find out your taxes going up because 1500 01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:18,240 Labor's in and this is after you les the cost of living crisis, 1501 01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,840 energy prices, interest rates, have all eaten that last little 1502 01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,840 bit of extra money you had left over each month from your wage 1503 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,660 and your outgoings. So now you're proper, folks, and while 1504 01:26:26,660 --> 01:26:29,720 you're sat there on the toilet in the morning reading tweets 1505 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:33,140 from the Metropolitan Police about online trolls and how they 1506 01:26:33,140 --> 01:26:36,560 upset them, a SWAT team smashes through your bathroom window 1507 01:26:36,740 --> 01:26:40,100 straight pasture on the shitter and goes into your 11 year old 1508 01:26:40,100 --> 01:26:42,760 son's bedroom and arrests him for shouting at a police 1509 01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:46,000 officer. Then your sister rings her She's recently got fired 1510 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,060 from her job as a doctor for refusing to ask biological men 1511 01:26:49,060 --> 01:26:51,700 if they're pregnant, and she tells her that your grandma's 1512 01:26:51,700 --> 01:26:54,280 just frozen to death because Keir Starmer gave her a winter 1513 01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:56,620 allowance to a country on the other side of the planet that's 1514 01:26:56,620 --> 01:27:00,420 wealthier than us to help them with climate change. It's all 1515 01:27:00,420 --> 01:27:03,060 getting a little bit much anyway. And you think you know 1516 01:27:03,060 --> 01:27:06,000 what I'll do, I'll nip off for a pint to relax. Maybe I'll sit in 1517 01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,400 the beer garden and have a fag. But while you're doing that, you 1518 01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,280 get barred, because that's illegal now. So you decide you 1519 01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:13,560 know what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna go for a walk to clear my 1520 01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,680 head morning. And while you're on your walk clearing your head, 1521 01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:21,380 you get stabbed to death. Yes, stabbed to death violently just 1522 01:27:21,380 --> 01:27:24,800 walking around the city. Then the Guardian plasters your face 1523 01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,140 all over the news for randomly jumping on a perfectly good 1524 01:27:27,140 --> 01:27:32,720 night 54 times that was held by a choir boy. Then your sister's 1525 01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,060 enraged by this, so she tweets about it. She gets nicked. Your 1526 01:27:35,060 --> 01:27:38,000 son comes out of prison, all right, and he decides, I'm going 1527 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,660 to protest it because my dad's dead. But this time he shouts at 1528 01:27:40,660 --> 01:27:43,420 a police horse, and he gets nicked for that, but the prisons 1529 01:27:43,420 --> 01:27:46,480 are too full, so they let out Ian Huntley to put him in. Now, 1530 01:27:46,480 --> 01:27:49,300 the mad thing about this tale is it doesn't even sound far 1531 01:27:49,300 --> 01:27:51,820 fetched anymore, does it? It's perfectly believable. I'll tell 1532 01:27:51,820 --> 01:27:57,880 you why, because it's all based on true events. This is our 1533 01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,120 story. This is fucking England. I Yeah, 1534 01:28:03,060 --> 01:28:06,060 Adam Curry: it's bad when you look at it from that 1535 01:28:06,060 --> 01:28:10,680 perspective. And I didn't believe the my friend Michelle. 1536 01:28:11,100 --> 01:28:15,240 He's been a pub guy, owner of pubs and clubs for as long as 1537 01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:18,540 I've known him, when I lived in Guilford. And I mean, he doesn't 1538 01:28:18,540 --> 01:28:22,820 even text me anymore. He's so depressed because, you know, his 1539 01:28:22,820 --> 01:28:25,940 clubs are closed. He can't. They have they're bringing in 1540 01:28:25,940 --> 01:28:30,620 regulations for how much you can charge for for alcohol, or I 1541 01:28:30,620 --> 01:28:34,580 think, actually going to charge extra for alcohol so that it 1542 01:28:34,580 --> 01:28:39,920 becomes less desirable to buy alcohol. And I didn't, I How did 1543 01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:45,580 you go to a pub for of course, but and and people go to pubs, 1544 01:28:45,580 --> 01:28:48,040 and then they have their beer garden. You go, as you said, you 1545 01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:52,120 know, God, so I'd have a fag, which is British for cigarette. 1546 01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:56,500 And indeed, they're going to ban this. Here is the new Prime 1547 01:28:56,500 --> 01:28:57,280 Minister of the 1548 01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:02,220 Unknown: UK. My starting point on this is to remind everyone 1549 01:29:02,220 --> 01:29:05,880 that over 80,000 people lose their lives every year because 1550 01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:10,860 of smoking. That's a preventable death. It's a huge burden on the 1551 01:29:10,860 --> 01:29:14,460 NHS, and of course, it's a burden on the taxpayer. So yes, 1552 01:29:14,460 --> 01:29:18,120 we are going to take decisions in this space. More details will 1553 01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:23,300 be revealed, but this is a series of deaths, and we've got 1554 01:29:23,300 --> 01:29:26,900 to take the action to reduce the burden on the NHS and reduce the 1555 01:29:26,900 --> 01:29:29,600 burden on the taxpayer. You said when you became prime minister, 1556 01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,240 you wanted politics to tread more lightly on people's lives. 1557 01:29:32,540 --> 01:29:33,620 This is the opposite, isn't 1558 01:29:33,620 --> 01:29:37,340 it? I think it's important to get the balance right. But 1559 01:29:37,820 --> 01:29:42,340 everybody watching this who uses the NHS will know that it's on 1560 01:29:42,340 --> 01:29:45,700 its knees. We have to relieve the burden, and that's why I 1561 01:29:45,700 --> 01:29:50,200 spoke before the election about moving to a preventative model 1562 01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,260 when it comes to health. I want the NHS back on its feet, but I 1563 01:29:53,260 --> 01:29:57,700 also want it fit for the next 75 years, just as we've had a 1564 01:29:57,700 --> 01:30:02,760 brilliant 75 years already. E and that means taking action in 1565 01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:06,540 relation to preventable deaths. And these are 80,000 a year 1566 01:30:06,540 --> 01:30:07,560 preventable deaths. 1567 01:30:08,820 --> 01:30:13,380 Adam Curry: You know, when I was in the UK in 2005 the NHS was on 1568 01:30:13,380 --> 01:30:18,540 its knees. You had to wait six to nine months just for an MRI. 1569 01:30:19,500 --> 01:30:23,600 This is, this is, this is not good. What's going on there. And 1570 01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:26,660 you just got to wonder, are the British people just taking it, 1571 01:30:26,660 --> 01:30:30,320 or are they going to rise up again? Or is that all just Tommy 1572 01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,420 Robinson lore? Is he the only one 1573 01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:35,840 John C Dvorak: doing this? You're asking the wrong guy. And 1574 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,120 Adam Curry: then there's the new one. And I think this this, and 1575 01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:42,760 it's rolled out to Australia, the right to disconnect. Have 1576 01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:44,500 you heard of this? This is a new one. 1577 01:30:45,220 --> 01:30:47,980 John C Dvorak: Nope, you got me flat footed once again, twice in 1578 01:30:47,980 --> 01:30:48,880 one show. Okay, 1579 01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:50,740 Adam Curry: I'll play the Australian clip first, because 1580 01:30:50,740 --> 01:30:53,200 it explains it in a little more detail, and then I'll play the 1581 01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:54,160 UK clip. The 1582 01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:57,220 Unknown: ICT U is pushing to strengthen right to disconnect. 1583 01:30:57,220 --> 01:31:01,020 Laws being introduced by the Albanese government. The union 1584 01:31:01,020 --> 01:31:04,920 is requesting the Fair Work Commission to insert the laws 1585 01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:09,660 into awards, arguing employers should be held accountable for 1586 01:31:09,660 --> 01:31:13,800 proper staffing. It's proposing a further two factors be taken 1587 01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:17,040 into account, whether the employees on leave or another 1588 01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,620 authorized absence, so 1589 01:31:19,620 --> 01:31:21,680 Adam Curry: you have the right to disconnect, meaning your 1590 01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:26,060 employer cannot pester you, which is a problem, but you 1591 01:31:26,060 --> 01:31:30,920 know, to make this a law and oh, no, you can't. You cannot talk 1592 01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:36,440 to me after five o'clock. And from what Nigel Farage says, 1593 01:31:36,620 --> 01:31:39,260 this appears to be happening in the UK as well. I wonder 1594 01:31:39,260 --> 01:31:41,860 Unknown: if a new prime minister is telling you that you can do 1595 01:31:41,860 --> 01:31:45,880 plenty of work from home and you can't be contacted outside 1596 01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:49,420 office hours, otherwise you might be subject to 1000s of 1597 01:31:49,420 --> 01:31:53,440 pounds in compensation. You shouldn't be working after five 1598 01:31:53,440 --> 01:31:57,760 o'clock, and all of this will boost productivity. Let me tell 1599 01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:02,940 you, this is a load of cobblers if you only want in life and 1600 01:32:02,940 --> 01:32:06,780 succeed, believe me, you've got to work hard. You've got to work 1601 01:32:06,780 --> 01:32:09,180 damned hard. You've got to be prepared to get out of your 1602 01:32:09,180 --> 01:32:13,440 house, meet people, do stuff, and if necessary, work late into 1603 01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:16,740 the evening. It's up to you. You want to be successful. Work 1604 01:32:16,740 --> 01:32:20,220 hard. You want to fail. Listen to our prime minister. You 1605 01:32:22,260 --> 01:32:25,040 Adam Curry: know this can only lead to that. This can only lead 1606 01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:27,680 to universal basic income. As far as I'm concerned, 1607 01:32:30,620 --> 01:32:34,040 John C Dvorak: it has to, I don't know about what connection 1608 01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:38,120 there. No, I don't know what the point of it is. I mean, when I 1609 01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:41,560 was at working in an oil refinery where you worked shift 1610 01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,320 work, where you'd work one week of 1611 01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:46,840 Adam Curry: were you on? Were you on the one of the islands? 1612 01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:48,760 Were you on the drilling islands up 1613 01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,820 John C Dvorak: here in rodeo at the Union oil refinery? Oh, 1614 01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:57,220 okay, and you would work overtime. Sometimes there would 1615 01:32:57,220 --> 01:33:01,560 be a lot of and sometimes they'd call you at home to tell you, 1616 01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,440 can you come in because we need somebody for some reason or 1617 01:33:04,440 --> 01:33:08,700 other, you just never answered the phone. You're in bed, 1618 01:33:08,940 --> 01:33:12,360 sleeping well, like now, for example, I don't have a phone 1619 01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:15,180 anywhere near the bedroom. I know I can you want to call me? 1620 01:33:15,180 --> 01:33:20,040 I'm in bed. Is your nose picking up? So what's How? How does that 1621 01:33:20,100 --> 01:33:23,540 not work to keep you disconnected if you want to be 1622 01:33:25,700 --> 01:33:28,040 Adam Curry: well, that's why you missed my surprise birthday 1623 01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,740 party. Tina was calling you and you were just ignoring the 1624 01:33:30,740 --> 01:33:31,880 phone. Never called me once. 1625 01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:34,460 Unknown: How do you know? Never called me? How 1626 01:33:34,460 --> 01:33:36,740 Adam Curry: do you know? How do you know you never heard it? You 1627 01:33:36,740 --> 01:33:37,880 just you were in bed. Well, I 1628 01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:40,240 John C Dvorak: have a phone if she if she called during the 1629 01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,820 day, the working hours. I'm working out. There you go, 1630 01:33:42,820 --> 01:33:44,500 working out the landline. 1631 01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:48,400 Adam Curry: It's called the landline. People. 1632 01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,680 John C Dvorak: Nobody even knows what that is anymore. Bring 1633 01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:52,900 Adam Curry: out the tech grouch everybody. Where is he? 1634 01:33:54,220 --> 01:33:56,560 Bakelite? Oh, no, I have it right here. 1635 01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,440 Unknown: Only good phone's a landline, and the phone should 1636 01:34:01,440 --> 01:34:02,940 be made out of big light, 1637 01:34:08,460 --> 01:34:10,320 Adam Curry: a classic, bring him back, 1638 01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:15,960 John C Dvorak: that guy, you know, I Carlos will do it and do 1639 01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:19,140 it, produce that again, if I've ever, if the guy ever wants to 1640 01:34:19,140 --> 01:34:19,800 come back. 1641 01:34:20,220 --> 01:34:22,640 Adam Curry: Oh, you don't need Carlos to do it. It's all you, 1642 01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:24,620 it's all it's all personal. Nobody, somebody 1643 01:34:24,620 --> 01:34:28,880 John C Dvorak: produced the whole thing is a piece. I need a 1644 01:34:28,940 --> 01:34:32,900 I need a videographer. I mean, I, I could do it myself, but I'm 1645 01:34:32,900 --> 01:34:34,580 not gonna do that. It's you know, me. 1646 01:34:35,660 --> 01:34:37,940 Adam Curry: I'm still hoping you get the microphones done by 1647 01:34:37,940 --> 01:34:40,840 Christmas. No, I'm sure you're not gonna, you're not going to 1648 01:34:40,900 --> 01:34:41,140 bring 1649 01:34:41,440 --> 01:34:44,260 John C Dvorak: back. I'll talk about that after this when we do 1650 01:34:44,260 --> 01:34:49,540 our later. Well, listen, the microphone problem is like, I'm 1651 01:34:49,540 --> 01:34:52,480 not so sure that that company that appears to be making the 1652 01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:58,900 microphones that we're trying to OEM, is the company. Oh, 1653 01:34:58,900 --> 01:35:01,620 Adam Curry: man, this is. Is going to be another failed exit 1654 01:35:01,620 --> 01:35:04,320 strategy. The whole party everyone's talking about, Hey, 1655 01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:10,500 man, I hear you guys got an exit strategy with microphones. Mark 1656 01:35:10,500 --> 01:35:14,880 halls from Mark Hall actually bought, he gave me as a gift, a 1657 01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:21,380 microphone. Yes, a Neumann replica made in ah, was it? 1658 01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:23,900 Well, I'm sure it's from China, but maybe it was Brazil or 1659 01:35:23,900 --> 01:35:28,040 something. It looks exactly like the big Neumann, you know, the 1660 01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,620 $8,000 Neumann. Yeah, 1661 01:35:30,740 --> 01:35:33,680 John C Dvorak: it's beautiful. I have one of those myself. Do 1662 01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:38,780 they handmade by somebody who put it together? Oh, it has the 1663 01:35:38,780 --> 01:35:45,460 Telefunken logo on the logo on it. Now this original U 47 is 1664 01:35:45,460 --> 01:35:46,360 what we're talking about. 1665 01:35:47,440 --> 01:35:50,200 Adam Curry: Yes, that's the one, the big one, the big, the big 1666 01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:52,480 the one that's a big, giant tube. Mike, yeah, the one they 1667 01:35:52,480 --> 01:35:56,020 have at NPR or at at crooked media, crooked media, 1668 01:35:56,740 --> 01:35:59,680 John C Dvorak: crooked media. Maybe the ones, the ones 1669 01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:01,920 Adam Curry: we're going to put stickers on when they go out of 1670 01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:05,700 business because of their because of their union. Union 1671 01:36:05,700 --> 01:36:09,300 contract, union Good luck. Hey, no union contract here. But I 1672 01:36:09,300 --> 01:36:12,240 would like to say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in 1673 01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,940 the curry Dvorak microphone company, say hello to my friend 1674 01:36:14,940 --> 01:36:16,980 on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C 1675 01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:23,720 John C Dvorak: Dvorak. Actually, it's curry. Dvorak, audio 1676 01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:24,740 products. Oh, I'm 1677 01:36:24,740 --> 01:36:27,380 Adam Curry: sorry. Audio products, 1678 01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,140 John C Dvorak: let's get that straight. All right, hi in the 1679 01:36:30,140 --> 01:36:32,900 morning to you, Mr. Adam curry, also in the morning, ships and 1680 01:36:32,900 --> 01:36:35,300 sea boosts the ground, feet in the air. Substantite in the 1681 01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:38,120 morning to the trolls. 1682 01:36:41,780 --> 01:36:44,500 Adam Curry: So thank you very much. Who posted that cotton 1683 01:36:44,500 --> 01:36:47,320 gin? Cotton Gin, keep doing that. I like that. We had a peak 1684 01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:54,340 of 2274 in the troll room. It's dropped down to 2118 that cotton 1685 01:36:54,340 --> 01:36:57,160 gin. I'd like you to do that every single time so I can know. 1686 01:36:57,700 --> 01:37:02,460 Well, he gave me the peak listen moment of the show, oh, which is 1687 01:37:02,460 --> 01:37:05,100 kind of cool. Yeah, I like that. He is kind of cool. He does a 1688 01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:09,120 graph. He has a graph, he has a graph, graph, yeah, he has a 1689 01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:10,680 chart, a graph. And you can 1690 01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:12,720 John C Dvorak: now, he's got to take it to the next level, which 1691 01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,600 is, have arrows at the different points in the chart, saying, 1692 01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:19,380 talked about this, talked about that, so we could talk about 1693 01:37:19,380 --> 01:37:21,620 this. So we can see, when you bring some of your topics up, 1694 01:37:21,620 --> 01:37:23,360 and you see the dip. Will know the reason, 1695 01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:25,520 Adam Curry: why and how come. It's when I bring some of my 1696 01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:28,880 topics up, not when you bring some of your topics up. Yes. 1697 01:37:28,940 --> 01:37:32,120 Okay, so the trolls are in the troll room, which you can 1698 01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:36,560 join@trollroom.io or you can participate live. This is a 1699 01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:40,040 fantastic invention of podcasting, 2.0 you get one of 1700 01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:44,860 those modern podcast apps. I use podcast guru because it does 1701 01:37:44,860 --> 01:37:48,100 video, does all kinds of stuff, and it does these. It does live 1702 01:37:48,100 --> 01:37:50,500 as well. So you get alerted when we when we send out the batch 1703 01:37:50,500 --> 01:37:52,840 signal at the beginning of the show, and then all you have to 1704 01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:56,140 do is tap it, and then, boom, you got to stream live, and you 1705 01:37:56,140 --> 01:37:59,200 can listen in, and it's the same app that you don't have to use a 1706 01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:02,160 different app, you don't have to go to a different website or 1707 01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,560 something like that, even though you can, if you don't want to, 1708 01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,960 if you don't use podcast apps. Got to wonder what you're 1709 01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:11,700 listening to the show on? Yeah? Just, just a thought, well, you 1710 01:38:11,700 --> 01:38:13,200 don't, do you use a podcast app? 1711 01:38:13,980 --> 01:38:16,680 John C Dvorak: No, I listen to everything on the web. 1712 01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:18,120 Interesting. 1713 01:38:19,860 --> 01:38:24,080 Adam Curry: I mean, you just go direct to their website. Or do 1714 01:38:24,140 --> 01:38:24,920 you go 1715 01:38:25,460 --> 01:38:29,780 John C Dvorak: to the time this? Yes, almost Yes, I go to the 1716 01:38:29,780 --> 01:38:32,780 website. Sometimes I end up on Apple 1717 01:38:33,440 --> 01:38:35,540 Adam Curry: on the you know. So Apple just released 1718 01:38:35,540 --> 01:38:43,360 podcast.apple.com so you can now use the apple podcasts on the 1719 01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:47,080 website, which you used to be able to do, but now they've 1720 01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:50,680 upgraded it so it's even worse, which is phenomenal how they did 1721 01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:50,980 that. 1722 01:38:51,100 --> 01:38:52,120 John C Dvorak: It's even worse. 1723 01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:58,900 Adam Curry: It is worse. I don't know those guys. I I feel for 1724 01:38:58,900 --> 01:38:59,200 that. Why 1725 01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:03,960 John C Dvorak: don't they hire you for a short one month stint 1726 01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:08,580 as a consultant to bring their their quality up to par. 1727 01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:10,800 Adam Curry: No, no. Why would they get it for free? They just 1728 01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:15,240 listen to the the podcasting, 2.0 board meeting every Friday. 1729 01:39:15,900 --> 01:39:19,140 Nobody thinks like that. No, they do. They believe me, 1730 01:39:19,140 --> 01:39:20,720 there's people from the apple. It doesn't 1731 01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:23,120 John C Dvorak: mean you. They shouldn't hire you for a one 1732 01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:24,440 month stint. 1733 01:39:24,440 --> 01:39:27,260 Adam Curry: Okay? First of all, um, I would never do that 1734 01:39:27,260 --> 01:39:30,680 because I'm unhireable and they don't have no one really wants 1735 01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:32,900 to hear what I have. The last time I talked to someone Apple 1736 01:39:32,900 --> 01:39:39,140 podcast, the guy laughed at me and then he quit. He was running 1737 01:39:39,140 --> 01:39:40,960 the show. Employees, 1738 01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:43,000 John C Dvorak: ladies and gentlemen, bring in Adam curry. 1739 01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:44,500 Hire Adam. 1740 01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:49,720 Adam Curry: No, actually, I like the team over there, but I this 1741 01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:53,440 is not a profit center for Apple. They lose money on the 1742 01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:53,620 team. 1743 01:39:53,620 --> 01:39:56,140 John C Dvorak: It's called a lost leader. It makes money in a 1744 01:39:56,140 --> 01:39:57,700 different sort of way, right? 1745 01:39:57,700 --> 01:39:59,920 Adam Curry: So it's all about the experience. So they did. 1746 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,920 Added transcripts, which we, we did they have joy Oh, they, that 1747 01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,860 they, you know what? I'd love to be in the apple. Joy Division, 1748 01:40:07,980 --> 01:40:11,880 if I can be there, I'm, I'm open for business people, yeah. Joy 1749 01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,940 boy, we'll call you, okay. Oh, let me write that down. It's 1750 01:40:14,940 --> 01:40:18,780 another good I like Joy Division, but joy boy, Joy boy, 1751 01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:23,480 Joy boy, yes. Oh, you know what? That's it. No agenda. Hi, I'm a 1752 01:40:23,480 --> 01:40:30,740 no agenda. Joy boy, see it's on my T shirt. So we, we do not 1753 01:40:30,740 --> 01:40:37,280 participate in programs like, what is it? Patreon, where you 1754 01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:40,180 have all kinds of levels, and you have to use apps to 1755 01:40:40,180 --> 01:40:44,800 subscribe. And by the way, do you see the the the Wall Street 1756 01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:51,460 Journal article about podcasting? Would you like to 1757 01:40:51,460 --> 01:40:53,200 hear one paragraph from, I 1758 01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:55,180 John C Dvorak: would like you to Yes, yes. Okay, 1759 01:40:55,180 --> 01:41:00,820 Adam Curry: podcasts used to be ad lite oases. Not anymore. 1760 01:41:02,260 --> 01:41:03,780 John C Dvorak: Now. What? What 1761 01:41:03,900 --> 01:41:08,100 Adam Curry: add what? Add light, l, I, G, H, T, so light on, add 1762 01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:12,480 light. They were oases of light, lightness of ads, very, just a 1763 01:41:12,480 --> 01:41:16,860 sprinkling of ads, you know, like use code, bong, Gino, yeah, 1764 01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:21,380 there is, yeah. Well, apparently not anymore. No, ads in the 1765 01:41:21,380 --> 01:41:25,640 second quarter of this year took up an average of how much do you 1766 01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:28,640 think of podcast runtime? What percentage 1767 01:41:28,940 --> 01:41:31,700 John C Dvorak: an hour? Can I just give a percentage out of an 1768 01:41:31,700 --> 01:41:37,100 hour? Yeah? Ads, yeah. Well, under, over in the old light 1769 01:41:37,100 --> 01:41:41,500 days, it would be five minutes an hour. Maybe I would say now 1770 01:41:41,500 --> 01:41:44,560 it be. I would say 10 minutes max. No, 1771 01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:48,340 Adam Curry: no, no, no, no, it's not that bad. It's 11. Well, 1772 01:41:48,340 --> 01:41:53,920 10.9% of podcast run times. So in this show, which is 180 1773 01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,160 minutes, you'd have 18 minutes of ads. 1774 01:41:59,440 --> 01:42:01,560 John C Dvorak: Well, considering what you have on a radio 1775 01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:02,280 station, 1776 01:42:02,340 --> 01:42:06,240 Adam Curry: which is 18 minutes per hour, yeah, 18 minutes to 20 1777 01:42:06,480 --> 01:42:06,780 Yeah? 1778 01:42:07,140 --> 01:42:10,620 John C Dvorak: 20 minutes an hour, I would say yes, yes. 1779 01:42:10,620 --> 01:42:12,180 That's that's still light, and we're 1780 01:42:12,180 --> 01:42:14,460 Adam Curry: moving, of course, more in that direction with 1781 01:42:14,460 --> 01:42:16,980 inserted, you know, the did I tell you that? Tune in, you 1782 01:42:16,980 --> 01:42:18,600 know, tune in the app. Tune in. 1783 01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:21,680 John C Dvorak: Yeah, you already bitched about okay, well, 1784 01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:25,280 Adam Curry: then I won't bitch about it anymore. In 2024 How 1785 01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:32,120 much do you think podcasters collected in ad revenue per hour 1786 01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:34,040 of programming per listener? 1787 01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:39,860 John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, per hour per listener, I would say 1788 01:42:41,300 --> 01:42:49,420 Adam Curry: $1 Ha, six cents, six cents, six off, six cents. 1789 01:42:50,380 --> 01:42:53,860 So they're ruining everyone's experience. For you are when you 1790 01:42:53,860 --> 01:42:59,500 listen to a podcast that has ads, the value they place on you 1791 01:42:59,500 --> 01:43:06,060 is six cents. Good luck slave. We, however, run no ads, so we 1792 01:43:06,060 --> 01:43:07,380 value you highly. This 1793 01:43:07,380 --> 01:43:10,620 John C Dvorak: is interesting because the network TV is 1794 01:43:10,620 --> 01:43:15,000 always, usually budget $1 per person per viewers. So if 1795 01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:20,120 Network 10 million viewers, that networker, cable, network, if 1796 01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:25,820 you have 10 million viewers of uh NCIS, your budget is ten 1797 01:43:25,820 --> 01:43:30,320 million Wow. Well, 1798 01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:34,040 Adam Curry: it used to so I think that just with these, with 1799 01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:37,040 these numbers, you're just going to see more ads in podcasts. 1800 01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:41,020 There's no other way. And the thing that they all forget is 1801 01:43:41,020 --> 01:43:44,980 that it's unlimited inventory. You're not limited like radio by 1802 01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:51,760 24 hours, so there's no way you can create what is the term I'm 1803 01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:53,740 John C Dvorak: looking that's the problem, the unlimited 1804 01:43:53,740 --> 01:43:55,660 inventory aspect to Yeah, you 1805 01:43:55,660 --> 01:43:58,000 Adam Curry: can't create scarcity. That's the term. You 1806 01:43:58,000 --> 01:43:59,860 can't create artificial scarcities 1807 01:43:59,860 --> 01:44:02,700 John C Dvorak: to go longer, yes, just two more ads. 1808 01:44:04,500 --> 01:44:06,660 Adam Curry: Anyway, we, we decided that was never going to 1809 01:44:06,660 --> 01:44:09,420 be for us, and not because of the money. We just didn't want 1810 01:44:09,420 --> 01:44:12,360 to do any, just didn't want to, no, it didn't want to do any, 1811 01:44:12,420 --> 01:44:16,980 any meetings. It's a pain in the ass. Yes. So instead, we decided 1812 01:44:16,980 --> 01:44:21,620 to go value for value, which we coined the term, and we, I mean, 1813 01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:25,280 it wasn't that hard to figure out, but it was kind of a we 1814 01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:28,700 didn't just we discovered it more than invented it. It's 1815 01:44:28,700 --> 01:44:31,580 like, Hey, if you, if you ask people to just send you whatever 1816 01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:35,420 they think it's worth this, it's much better, because people 1817 01:44:35,420 --> 01:44:39,080 don't feel a need. They can do it whenever they want. That 1818 01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:42,160 means it's roller coaster for us, but we're here almost 17 1819 01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:44,860 years. We're still hanging in there by our fingernails. We're 1820 01:44:44,860 --> 01:44:48,400 hanging in I'm glad I have a birthday. Got a lot of 60 1821 01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:51,160 donations today, which I'm very happy. I can't wait to read 1822 01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:54,940 them. And thank everybody and you. We also say you can, you 1823 01:44:54,940 --> 01:44:58,480 can just hit us with time, talent or treasure. And that's 1824 01:44:58,480 --> 01:45:01,800 the that's the beauty of our. Podcast. It's really about the 1825 01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,800 producers. You're not listeners. You're producers. It is your job 1826 01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:08,040 to produce the program, which means keep it going financially, 1827 01:45:08,220 --> 01:45:11,640 but also add your talents. And people have a lot of talent. 1828 01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,160 People have a lot of information. Actually, this is a 1829 01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:18,720 special, a special donation segment, boots on the ground. 1830 01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:23,120 You know, we had asked these reports are out there saying, 1831 01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:27,980 oh, 33 nurses died suddenly. Well, we know that we have a lot 1832 01:45:27,980 --> 01:45:32,960 of people working in as nurses, registered nurses, doctors, all 1833 01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:36,680 kinds of people who work in the field. And I have a quick boots 1834 01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:40,540 on the ground from leaf. Who is a nurse? Adam, I'm a nurse on a 1835 01:45:40,540 --> 01:45:43,900 sustaining donation. Thank you so delivering time, talent and 1836 01:45:43,900 --> 01:45:48,160 treasure. And I have not seen a recent sudden die off of nurses. 1837 01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:53,860 However, what I have seen is an absolute explosion of pots, 1838 01:45:53,860 --> 01:45:56,920 which I was not familiar with. This term I thought was plain 1839 01:45:56,920 --> 01:46:01,080 old, television, telephone system, but it stands for 1840 01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:08,460 Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome among my young female 1841 01:46:08,460 --> 01:46:10,080 co workers. Have you ever heard of this? 1842 01:46:11,940 --> 01:46:13,200 Unknown: No, and 1843 01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:15,360 Adam Curry: neither had I. He explains it's a syndrome, 1844 01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:19,740 meaning its cause is not well understood, but has to do with 1845 01:46:20,100 --> 01:46:24,800 uh, autonomic cardiovascular regulation, the rates among the 1846 01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:29,480 under 25 females is probably 10% on a syndrome that is supposed 1847 01:46:29,480 --> 01:46:34,160 to be 0.2% it's a diagnosis of exclusion. So it takes a while 1848 01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,620 to diagnose. Once you rule out everything else, you get 1849 01:46:36,620 --> 01:46:40,480 diagnosed based on the symptoms, also the viral diabetes thing, 1850 01:46:40,480 --> 01:46:43,960 type one is usually triggered by a viral infection. We aren't 1851 01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:48,220 really sure why. So there is something going on. It's not 1852 01:46:48,220 --> 01:46:52,120 that they're dying off in great numbers, but 10% of this 1853 01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:54,040 syndrome doesn't sound good. 1854 01:46:55,180 --> 01:46:57,760 John C Dvorak: No, not when it was supposed to be point oh two, 1855 01:46:57,820 --> 01:46:59,680 yeah. So 1856 01:47:00,820 --> 01:47:01,560 Adam Curry: we are thinking, 1857 01:47:01,620 --> 01:47:03,900 John C Dvorak: what changed in society? Ah, 1858 01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:05,040 Adam Curry: you know, it's, it's, 1859 01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:06,000 John C Dvorak: let me think 1860 01:47:06,060 --> 01:47:08,400 Adam Curry: it's, probably, it's plastics. 1861 01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,760 John C Dvorak: Could it be micro plastics in the dye 1862 01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:14,700 Adam Curry: is I'm really, I got it. 1863 01:47:14,700 --> 01:47:17,040 John C Dvorak: You got it? What climate change? There 1864 01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:19,740 Adam Curry: you go. Due to climate change. Due to climate 1865 01:47:19,740 --> 01:47:24,860 change. All right, so that's one way you can support us. Another 1866 01:47:24,860 --> 01:47:28,160 way is, well, our artists, our artists always provide us 1867 01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:32,180 multiple pieces of artwork to choose from, to put in the any 1868 01:47:32,180 --> 01:47:36,800 album art for every single show we think it's useful and fun. 1869 01:47:37,100 --> 01:47:40,660 It's just another fun thing to do instead of fun, instead of 1870 01:47:40,660 --> 01:47:43,840 having AI write up some crappy description of which is what 1871 01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:46,660 they talked about in the show, you know, AI does that for us. 1872 01:47:47,980 --> 01:47:50,800 When I do the transcript, another podcasting 2.0 1873 01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:55,600 invention, AI will then that we use otter.ai, or that's what I 1874 01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:59,380 you know, the one that can't get your name right, keeps calling 1875 01:47:59,380 --> 01:48:04,860 you John, C, j, h, n, s, I suddenly Indian, yes. So it'll 1876 01:48:04,860 --> 01:48:13,200 do a summary of the show. So here's the summary from the last 1877 01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:18,060 show. Tell me if you'd like to put this into our description. 1878 01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:21,740 The Conversation covers various topics, including the upcoming 1879 01:48:21,740 --> 01:48:24,560 interview with Kamala Harris, the arrest of telegram Founder 1880 01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,920 Pavel Durov, and the political dynamics surrounding Donald 1881 01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:30,620 Trump. They discuss the challenges of free speech on 1882 01:48:30,620 --> 01:48:34,760 platforms like x controlled by Linda yakarino and and the 1883 01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:37,280 potential influence of Saudi money, which I don't think we 1884 01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:40,180 ever mentioned. The Conversation also touches on the impact of 1885 01:48:40,180 --> 01:48:43,060 climate change on mosquito populations and the spread of 1886 01:48:43,060 --> 01:48:46,660 diseases like Eastern Equine Encephalitis. Additionally, they 1887 01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:50,140 analyzed the legal implications of the superseding indictment 1888 01:48:50,140 --> 01:48:52,960 against Trump, emphasizing the Supreme Court's ruling on 1889 01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,900 presidential immunity and the challenges for special counsel 1890 01:48:55,900 --> 01:48:59,980 Jack Smith improving Trump's actions were unofficial. I 1891 01:48:59,980 --> 01:49:04,020 wouldn't turn that podcast on in a million years. That sounds 1892 01:49:04,020 --> 01:49:09,780 horrible, because we do it with pizzazz and with humor and with 1893 01:49:09,780 --> 01:49:13,740 jokes, yuck, yuck. So no, we'd rather have a funny piece of 1894 01:49:13,740 --> 01:49:15,900 art. And people go, Oh, let me see what these guys are doing. 1895 01:49:15,900 --> 01:49:20,480 Let's see what those guys are up to. So I know right, if 1896 01:49:20,480 --> 01:49:21,980 John C Dvorak: you can't say it's wrong, 1897 01:49:21,980 --> 01:49:24,680 Adam Curry: no, it's not wrong, but it's, that's not marketing, 1898 01:49:24,740 --> 01:49:27,680 that's, that's anti marketing. It's like, do not tune into 1899 01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:32,540 this. Whatever you do, it's boring. So not boring was 1900 01:49:32,540 --> 01:49:33,260 friends. Actually, 1901 01:49:33,260 --> 01:49:35,180 John C Dvorak: there's an interesting you're making an 1902 01:49:35,180 --> 01:49:41,320 interesting point about the boring. So it at its base level. 1903 01:49:41,440 --> 01:49:46,600 AI is dull, yes, humorless? Well, of course, it has to be 1904 01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:51,580 humorless, because the humor, artificial humor, a hard you 1905 01:49:51,580 --> 01:49:55,840 need artificial humor somehow when AI can write jokes, yeah, 1906 01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:58,240 come back, genuinely funny, yeah. Give us a call. 1907 01:49:58,480 --> 01:50:00,480 Adam Curry: Give us a call, yeah, give us a. Pretty good. 1908 01:50:00,480 --> 01:50:04,500 One of you can write jokes. So instead, we come up with a funny 1909 01:50:04,500 --> 01:50:08,460 title, like corn sweat, which neither of us had heard of. A 1910 01:50:08,460 --> 01:50:11,940 lot of people in the in the north, in the Midwest were like, 1911 01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:16,980 Hey, man, corn sweat is a real deal, man, all right, gotcha. We 1912 01:50:16,980 --> 01:50:20,780 never told us about it before. Yeah. And now and then we choose 1913 01:50:20,780 --> 01:50:24,140 a beautiful, I thought, great piece of art from Francisco 1914 01:50:24,140 --> 01:50:30,320 Scaramanga, which was the kind of Elvira esque cheesecake lady 1915 01:50:30,440 --> 01:50:34,520 spray painting. No agenda, zero impact, which is what we claim 1916 01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:40,540 to have on society. Zero impact in graffiti style, or, as you 1917 01:50:40,540 --> 01:50:45,460 would say, graffiti. And we both liked it. We both thought it was 1918 01:50:45,460 --> 01:50:47,500 a good piece. Well, we 1919 01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:52,960 John C Dvorak: it was funny because it was a fallback on the 1920 01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:58,420 fact that we couldn't really come up with anything old. Most 1921 01:50:58,420 --> 01:51:00,120 of the art was corn sweat, yeah, 1922 01:51:01,260 --> 01:51:04,740 Adam Curry: which just didn't work. Sloth fever was, we didn't 1923 01:51:04,740 --> 01:51:07,980 really talk about sloth fever one clip, maybe, yeah, 1924 01:51:07,980 --> 01:51:10,920 John C Dvorak: sloth fever was no good. No, it was no good. It 1925 01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,080 was just a rough go in terms of 1926 01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:17,160 Adam Curry: the art. It was Sir Shug faux diddley did the 1927 01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:20,900 molasses of subversion, which we looked at, but it wasn't really 1928 01:51:21,260 --> 01:51:25,640 a great piece as a product shot I saw you use the free podcast 1929 01:51:25,940 --> 01:51:30,320 sign from Darren as the newsletter artwork. I was good. 1930 01:51:30,860 --> 01:51:35,840 I liked that piece. Nestworks did the politics of joy, which 1931 01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:40,660 wasn't anything, wasn't compelling. I actually like 1932 01:51:40,660 --> 01:51:43,480 Darren's curry Dvorak. Girls with, I'm not big on the 1933 01:51:43,480 --> 01:51:47,680 cheesecake, but for some reason it's the two girls, one saying 1934 01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:50,260 both wearing no agenda T shirts, one saying curry, one saying 1935 01:51:50,260 --> 01:51:53,800 Dvorak. It was actually kind of good. Yeah, a lot of corn, sweat 1936 01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:59,440 stuff. What else was there Black joy comics or Blogger? Let the 1937 01:51:59,980 --> 01:52:06,300 prompt jockey extraordinaire, no peanut butter. No agenda. Peanut 1938 01:52:06,300 --> 01:52:11,700 butter. Why? None of that really hit us. Did it? Was it really? 1939 01:52:13,620 --> 01:52:16,800 No, yeah, and then, and then you looked at it was just, it was a 1940 01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:19,680 good piece, the Scaramanga thing, it stood out, you know, 1941 01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:24,080 green, oh, I kind of like tanta Neal's tools that didn't work, 1942 01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:25,280 but it didn't work. 1943 01:52:28,940 --> 01:52:31,460 John C Dvorak: It didn't work. No, this is too can it was 1944 01:52:31,460 --> 01:52:32,780 something confusing about 1945 01:52:32,780 --> 01:52:35,780 Adam Curry: it, yeah, hammer with no Hammerhead, screwdriver 1946 01:52:35,780 --> 01:52:41,740 with no shaft, saw with no blade. We got the idea just 1947 01:52:41,740 --> 01:52:47,080 didn't quite work. So thank you Francisco Scaramanga for 1948 01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:47,620 bringing up, 1949 01:52:47,860 --> 01:52:49,960 John C Dvorak: by the way, I don't know why he contributes to 1950 01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:51,880 heart. Doesn't make sense. It's love 1951 01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:54,640 Adam Curry: hate relationship, man. You know he's just trying. 1952 01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:59,560 I see John G do came in late with the Swiss Army surrender, 1953 01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:03,420 which probably wouldn't have been chosen, but at least he 1954 01:53:03,420 --> 01:53:06,900 tried to do a Swiss army knife with no blade, yes, but you know 1955 01:53:06,900 --> 01:53:08,820 what? We appreciate all of it. All like 1956 01:53:08,820 --> 01:53:12,780 John C Dvorak: the I like the I like the piece with the instead 1957 01:53:12,780 --> 01:53:14,820 of a blade, you have a surrender flag, yes, 1958 01:53:14,820 --> 01:53:18,420 Adam Curry: but it's cute. It's cute, but the curry Dvorak is 1959 01:53:18,420 --> 01:53:23,300 not right. No agenda off center. Yeah, too small. Yeah, we're 1960 01:53:23,300 --> 01:53:24,680 very discerning here. 1961 01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:26,540 John C Dvorak: We're horrible about that. We're 1962 01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:31,280 Adam Curry: kind of horrible, but we take 1963 01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:33,860 John C Dvorak: the moment to become art directors. Yes, we're 1964 01:53:33,860 --> 01:53:37,700 and all these artists know that art directors are all a holes, 1965 01:53:38,060 --> 01:53:38,600 and 1966 01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:41,860 Adam Curry: we play it to a T, ladies and gentlemen. So along 1967 01:53:41,860 --> 01:53:47,140 with that, we also have treasure. We'd like to thank our 1968 01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:52,180 executive producers and Associate Executive producers. 1969 01:53:52,540 --> 01:53:55,300 So the way now anybody can support the show with any 1970 01:53:55,300 --> 01:54:00,040 amount. In fact, we have a layaway night and a layaway 1971 01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:02,880 dame, so both who have been just supporting the show with 1972 01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:05,580 whatever amount they choose, on whatever regular basis they 1973 01:54:05,580 --> 01:54:07,860 choose, and been doing that for a while, so both of them will be 1974 01:54:07,860 --> 01:54:10,620 joined the roundtable getting that beautiful Knight and or 1975 01:54:10,620 --> 01:54:16,080 Dame ring. But in the case of the executive producers per 1976 01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:19,440 show, if you're $200 or above, you get an Associate Executive 1977 01:54:19,440 --> 01:54:23,120 Producer title, and we read your note, $300 and above, executive 1978 01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:27,440 producer, and we read your note as well. And you get a credit, 1979 01:54:27,440 --> 01:54:29,900 which is a real credit. You can use it anywhere. You can put it 1980 01:54:29,900 --> 01:54:32,780 on your LinkedIn profile. It'll be recognized as such by anyone 1981 01:54:32,780 --> 01:54:36,740 who's a Hollywood douchebag or, you know, it impresses people 1982 01:54:36,740 --> 01:54:39,680 some places. And if there's any question, you can say, oh, yeah, 1983 01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:43,840 look at my imdb.com it's real. Oh, okay, and you'll see some 1984 01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:46,720 real Hollywood names in there as well, which you can point out. 1985 01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:50,440 And so let's thank them. Right now, I'm looking at this first 1986 01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:58,660 donation, which is Beltre Lama in the town of Erika, which now 1987 01:54:58,660 --> 01:55:03,000 neither of this sounds right. Right? So this is a Dutch 1988 01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:09,540 donation, $333.33 let me see, because it says, see the email, 1989 01:55:11,940 --> 01:55:17,100 but I don't have this email. Have you seen this email? No, I 1990 01:55:17,100 --> 01:55:17,580 wouldn't be 1991 01:55:17,580 --> 01:55:19,080 John C Dvorak: able to read it if I did. It 1992 01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:23,480 Adam Curry: says Z email, Na, Adam found quirano out. Erika on 1993 01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:26,480 quirano. So it's from someone named kurana. Let me double 1994 01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:28,040 check, make sure I'm not missing this. 1995 01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,100 John C Dvorak: I don't have anything, but it was sent to you 1996 01:55:31,100 --> 01:55:31,820 specifically. 1997 01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:35,000 Adam Curry: Oh, wait a minute. No, I have quirano here. Here 1998 01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:37,520 was this? Hold on a second. What did this come in? Oh, did this 1999 01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:43,900 come in? Friday? Here we go. Oh, okay, so this is all in Dutch, 2000 01:55:43,900 --> 01:55:47,800 so I'll just have to read it in Dutch. Backslater linked, taken, 2001 01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:50,200 said Naya frack. Taken, the answer of Trump. Check this 2002 01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:54,940 video. This is main tip of the quartal tiny fault. Doner for my 2003 01:55:54,940 --> 01:56:00,280 comrade, Van leywa. Shout out to Mickey van leywa. Picasso Doner 2004 01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:04,440 and a producer word of triple, China is asshole, okay? And it 2005 01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:10,020 says we understood that one, didn't we? Okay? All right, 2006 01:56:10,020 --> 01:56:15,960 it's, it's kind of odd that it's that it's that it's in Dutch, 2007 01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:17,820 but I'll be happy to comply. China 2008 01:56:17,940 --> 01:56:21,740 Unknown: is asshole. China is asshole. China is asshole. And 2009 01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:24,740 Adam Curry: quirano Martin. That's his name soon to be night 2010 01:56:24,740 --> 01:56:29,240 of the flatter lands. He says he's celebrating his birthday on 2011 01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:33,320 September 6. So I think that's a show day. So we can send in a 2012 01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:35,720 note, and we'll make sure send a note in English, so we can make 2013 01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:38,780 sure we get you on the list. And thank you very much for your 2014 01:56:38,780 --> 01:56:40,300 support of the no agenda show, 2015 01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:43,960 John C Dvorak: sir loudpipes is in Charlotte, North Carolina. He 2016 01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:47,320 comes with the same amount, three, three, 3.33, and he says, 2017 01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:51,820 Happy Birthday, Adam. Thank you. And he said, Then he signs off 2018 01:56:51,820 --> 01:56:56,140 with Sir loud pipes, the Baron of Mecklenburg County. No 2019 01:56:56,140 --> 01:57:01,200 agenda. Is your exit strategy from the insanity we're 2020 01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:03,060 Adam Curry: gonna die spitting in the mics. 2021 01:57:04,260 --> 01:57:07,200 John C Dvorak: And I wash my thing off once in a while in the 2022 01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:09,120 dishwasher. A tip, 2023 01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:12,240 Adam Curry: oh, you your your spit screen, your windscreen, 2024 01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:13,140 yeah, it's 2025 01:57:13,140 --> 01:57:15,600 John C Dvorak: one of the metal ones, the best kind, instead of, 2026 01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:18,180 you know, there's others, there's certain kinds of spit 2027 01:57:18,180 --> 01:57:20,900 screens. But this is really a killer. It's a good one, but it 2028 01:57:20,900 --> 01:57:26,840 does get nasty. Yeah, needs to get washed once in a while in 2029 01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:27,620 the dishwasher. 2030 01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:30,980 Adam Curry: 333 dot 33 from Jason Edmonds in Johnson City, 2031 01:57:30,980 --> 01:57:33,860 Tennessee. Hey, Adam and John. I regret that it took me this long 2032 01:57:33,860 --> 01:57:37,220 to get off the douchebag roles. So I'm starting down my path to 2033 01:57:37,220 --> 01:57:39,560 knighthood. I got hit in the mouth by my buddy Spencer back 2034 01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:43,120 in the spring, and I haven't missed a show since. I regret 2035 01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:46,660 that I didn't know about you in 2020 but better late than never. 2036 01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:50,080 Gentlemen, thank you for your courage and for slowing down the 2037 01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:53,920 shrinking of my amygdala. Please censor Spencer some baby making 2038 01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:57,640 karma. And if you wouldn't mind, could you please deduce me? 2039 01:57:59,620 --> 01:58:05,040 Unknown: You've been deduced. Oh, you've 2040 01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:10,440 got karma. 2041 01:58:12,180 --> 01:58:14,160 John C Dvorak: Sir. Chris Beaverton, Oregon, two, two, 2042 01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:19,200 2.33, is Associate Executive Producer. Sir Chris of Cascadia, 2043 01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:25,160 here, I just need stereo. Luge goat karma, please keep up the 2044 01:58:25,160 --> 01:58:25,760 good work 2045 01:58:27,860 --> 01:58:28,640 Unknown: you've got. 2046 01:58:33,860 --> 01:58:38,600 Adam Curry: Scott Porter in Frisco, Texas, 210 60 was just 2047 01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:41,980 up there in Frisco. Adam and John, thank you for the show. My 2048 01:58:41,980 --> 01:58:45,820 mother is 80. I had a nasty fall last Friday, resulting in a very 2049 01:58:45,820 --> 01:58:49,360 serious head injury. Ah, I humbly request health and 2050 01:58:49,360 --> 01:58:52,900 healing karma aimed her way so she will make a speedy recovery. 2051 01:58:52,900 --> 01:58:56,920 Yes, here it comes for your mom. You've got karma. Everybody. 2052 01:58:56,920 --> 01:58:57,520 Pray for mom. 2053 01:58:59,740 --> 01:59:01,800 John C Dvorak: Eli the coffee guy, bensonville, Illinois, 2054 01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:05,640 20901, happy birthday, Adam and Happy Labor Day to all those. 2055 01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:08,100 That's right, it's labor Labor Day. We say Labor Day weekend. 2056 01:59:08,100 --> 01:59:12,000 No one of the yeah, do all those and get mo nation. I'll be 2057 01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:17,580 smoking a brisket in Illinois. Okay, getting the right brisket 2058 01:59:17,580 --> 01:59:21,500 to smoke if you're going to do one, that is what takes to work. 2059 01:59:21,860 --> 01:59:27,200 I'll be smoking a brisket using a brown sugar coffee rub. Coffee 2060 01:59:27,200 --> 01:59:31,280 rubs are not unusual. Producers should visit gigawatt Coffee 2061 01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:35,840 roasters.com and use code ITM for 20% off your coffee order, 2062 01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:39,980 because coffee is not only good for drinking, but makes a mean 2063 01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:45,700 barbecue rub. There are recipes online, stay caffeinated. Eli, 2064 01:59:45,700 --> 01:59:46,660 the coffee guy, 2065 01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:51,280 Adam Curry: you know Tina, she sometimes does a rub on the Tri 2066 01:59:51,280 --> 01:59:58,360 Tip, and she actually uses gigawatt coffee, espresso, and 2067 01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:01,680 it's really good. She does it with, with the brown shirt. I'm 2068 02:00:01,680 --> 02:00:04,320 sure that it's all wrong according to you, but I like 2069 02:00:04,320 --> 02:00:06,960 what she I never said that, no, but typically you're like that. 2070 02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:10,920 You typically just would poo, poo it. But if you'd showed up 2071 02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:15,120 to what, since when? If you'd showed up to my birthday party, 2072 02:00:15,180 --> 02:00:15,960 you could have had 2073 02:00:18,720 --> 02:00:20,460 John C Dvorak: some, well, you could always ship me some. 2074 02:00:21,120 --> 02:00:21,920 Sandra, 2075 02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:24,860 Adam Curry: Ferreira is in Brooklyn, New York, enemy 2076 02:00:24,860 --> 02:00:28,400 territory. $200 Happy Birthday. Adam. Thank you for always 2077 02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:32,720 making me laugh. John, please send some jobs karma our way, 2078 02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:35,900 says Sandra, and we're happy to do so. Stand by 2079 02:00:35,900 --> 02:00:42,980 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs karma. 2080 02:00:42,980 --> 02:00:43,180 The 2081 02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:47,860 John C Dvorak: list is Oh. Linda lupekin. She's here again, once 2082 02:00:47,860 --> 02:00:52,360 again, the Lakewood, Colorado. And she says, uh, she wants jobs 2083 02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:56,380 karma for a res, and she wants to mention that for a resume 2084 02:00:56,380 --> 02:01:00,780 that gets results. You visit English, English, I was going to 2085 02:01:00,780 --> 02:01:05,820 try to get through no for a resume that gets results. Visit 2086 02:01:06,060 --> 02:01:11,100 image makers. Inc.com, for all your executive resume and job 2087 02:01:11,100 --> 02:01:15,060 search needs, that's image makers. Inc, with a K and work 2088 02:01:15,060 --> 02:01:19,140 with Linda Lou Dutchess of jobs and writer of resumes. Congrats 2089 02:01:19,140 --> 02:01:22,580 on having your on having your hair. Adam, 2090 02:01:23,180 --> 02:01:26,300 Adam Curry: thank you. Linda Lou, jobs, jobs, 2091 02:01:26,540 --> 02:01:28,100 Unknown: jobs and jobs, 2092 02:01:29,120 --> 02:01:30,140 jobs, she reads the 2093 02:01:31,340 --> 02:01:34,160 Adam Curry: newsletter. Yes, very funny. Very funny. Yes, she 2094 02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:36,680 does read the newsletter. Thank you to our executive and 2095 02:01:36,680 --> 02:01:39,320 Associate Executive producers. There more people to thank in 2096 02:01:39,320 --> 02:01:42,880 our second segment, $50 and above, we will read your your 2097 02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:47,200 your donation, and your name and your location. And there's a lot 2098 02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:50,380 of people sent in $60 so I'll be looking forward to thanking all 2099 02:01:50,380 --> 02:01:53,080 of them. And of course, under 50, we don't make any mention of 2100 02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:56,440 that for reasons of anonymity. Also, you can set up your 2101 02:01:56,440 --> 02:01:59,440 sustaining donation, which most people do under 50, you can do 2102 02:01:59,440 --> 02:02:03,360 50 or like Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Duke of Luna 808. Every single 2103 02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:07,680 show, and that's fine. We love that everyone should consider 2104 02:02:07,680 --> 02:02:11,040 doing that. In addition to any extra donations you throw our 2105 02:02:11,040 --> 02:02:14,040 way, it is all very much appreciated. Keep the show going 2106 02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:17,160 for another four more years. No agenda donations.com. Thank you 2107 02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:20,400 again to our Associate Executive producers and executive 2108 02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:21,660 producers for this episode. Our 2109 02:02:21,660 --> 02:02:25,760 Unknown: formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth. 2110 02:02:39,740 --> 02:02:43,120 Adam Curry: Well, I hate to say it, but they're ratcheting it 2111 02:02:43,120 --> 02:02:46,360 up. John, they're ratcheting it up. 2112 02:02:46,900 --> 02:02:49,360 John C Dvorak: They've been ratchet ratcheting it up. 2113 02:02:49,360 --> 02:02:51,820 Adam Curry: No, but this, this is the new new this is the new 2114 02:02:51,820 --> 02:02:55,060 thing. And for this, we go back to my old stomping grounds of 2115 02:02:55,060 --> 02:02:58,480 New Jersey. Is bad, people. It's very, very bad. Two 2116 02:02:58,480 --> 02:03:00,660 Unknown: deaths from the West Nile virus are now being 2117 02:03:00,660 --> 02:03:03,600 reported in southern New Jersey, one in Mercer County, another in 2118 02:03:03,600 --> 02:03:06,960 Cumberland County. Meanwhile, New York City seeing a surge in 2119 02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:11,340 cases. 10 people have now been confirmed infected. There are 10 2120 02:03:11,340 --> 02:03:14,280 other cases around New York State. And with people headed 2121 02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:16,920 outdoors this holiday weekend, Governor Hochul reminding 2122 02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:19,980 everyone to be careful. Use a spray repellent to protect 2123 02:03:19,980 --> 02:03:23,840 yourself against mosquitoes possibly carrying West Nile next 2124 02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:26,540 week, New York city plans to resume mosquito spraying in 2125 02:03:26,540 --> 02:03:27,980 Queens and Manhattan. 2126 02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:30,920 Adam Curry: Yeah, so that's just that's a light version of it. 2127 02:03:30,920 --> 02:03:35,120 But despite the spraying, two people died in New Jersey. Now 2128 02:03:35,120 --> 02:03:40,480 we have to bring in some, some new terms for the triple E, the 2129 02:03:40,480 --> 02:03:43,720 Eastern Equine Encephalitis is the stuff that makes your brain 2130 02:03:43,720 --> 02:03:47,200 swell and burst out of your head. Of course, we know what 2131 02:03:47,200 --> 02:03:48,100 causes this 2132 02:03:48,340 --> 02:03:51,100 Unknown: week, a new hampshire man died of Eastern Equine 2133 02:03:51,100 --> 02:03:55,720 Encephalitis, or triple E, after being bit by a mosquito. U S, 2134 02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:58,600 health officials are warning that cases of mosquito borne 2135 02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:01,860 diseases like triple E and West Nile are on the rise this year, 2136 02:04:01,860 --> 02:04:05,040 especially in the northeast, hotter temperatures, more severe 2137 02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:08,040 weather events and piles of plastic trash have created 2138 02:04:08,040 --> 02:04:11,040 environments where mosquitoes thrive, allowing insects to 2139 02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:14,520 reach areas formerly inhospitable to them. For 2140 02:04:14,520 --> 02:04:19,200 example, dengue cases are rising in Europe, where the disease 2141 02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:22,580 used to actually be quite rare. The number of European countries 2142 02:04:22,760 --> 02:04:25,580 with a self sustaining population of a mosquito breed 2143 02:04:25,580 --> 02:04:30,440 known to carry Dengue fever has grown from eight to 13 in the 2144 02:04:30,440 --> 02:04:33,680 last decade. And it's not just that diseases are spreading to 2145 02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:36,800 new areas. Mosquito season is also getting longer because of 2146 02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:40,720 climate change. A 2023 study by the nonprofit Climate Central 2147 02:04:40,720 --> 02:04:45,340 found that 173 locations across the US have seen an increase in 2148 02:04:45,340 --> 02:04:48,940 the number of mosquito days. The average increase for those 2149 02:04:48,940 --> 02:04:53,560 locations is 16 days. But some areas in the country have had 2150 02:04:53,560 --> 02:04:56,740 their mosquito days actually extended by much longer. These 2151 02:04:56,740 --> 02:05:00,840 10 cities have at least an extra month. Of days that are 2152 02:05:00,840 --> 02:05:02,820 favorable to mosquitoes. So 2153 02:05:02,820 --> 02:05:05,160 Adam Curry: it's all, of course, because of climate change, to 2154 02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:09,900 climate change. But we have the new term, mosquito days. How 2155 02:05:09,900 --> 02:05:12,720 many mosquito days this year? So I like that. It's a nice 2156 02:05:12,720 --> 02:05:15,240 mosquito days, a new metric. Yeah, it's a new metric, 2157 02:05:15,300 --> 02:05:17,880 John C Dvorak: yeah, and it's up and it's up a number of 2158 02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:19,440 percentage points. Yeah, number. 2159 02:05:19,440 --> 02:05:23,180 Adam Curry: Just quite a number, and we need to make it a little 2160 02:05:23,180 --> 02:05:26,420 we can kind of bring that home for people and give them a 2161 02:05:26,420 --> 02:05:30,140 little more visual. NBC Today show is great at doing these 2162 02:05:30,140 --> 02:05:31,160 things for 2163 02:05:31,160 --> 02:05:34,880 Unknown: those heading to a lake for Labor Day, be on high alert 2164 02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:38,960 mosquitoes. Look for still fresh water, and be sure to apply a 2165 02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:42,880 deep based insect repellent on top of your sunscreen. In 2166 02:05:42,880 --> 02:05:46,540 Missouri, John Proctor wishes his family had known about the 2167 02:05:46,540 --> 02:05:50,980 danger of mosquito borne illnesses. His 18 year old son, 2168 02:05:51,160 --> 02:05:55,780 known as BB, has a long road to recovery. He's on a ventilator, 2169 02:05:55,780 --> 02:05:59,380 paralyzed from the neck down after contracting West Nile 2170 02:05:59,380 --> 02:06:03,240 virus from a mosquito bite his dad believes he got while 2171 02:06:03,240 --> 02:06:06,180 playing with their dog in the backyard. It's 2172 02:06:07,380 --> 02:06:11,040 such a small horror story. Insignificant creature can take 2173 02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:15,840 a perfectly 100% healthy human being and it just causing havoc 2174 02:06:15,840 --> 02:06:16,740 on his body 2175 02:06:16,920 --> 02:06:19,440 that fast. It only takes one mosquito 2176 02:06:19,440 --> 02:06:22,400 Adam Curry: to get you. It only takes one mosquito to catch you. 2177 02:06:23,420 --> 02:06:26,060 John C Dvorak: One is that? Well, you had the one that guy 2178 02:06:26,060 --> 02:06:28,220 in New Hampshire, which they keep talking about. 2179 02:06:28,220 --> 02:06:30,680 Adam Curry: Yeah, the two in New Jersey. And now this kid, poor 2180 02:06:30,680 --> 02:06:31,340 kid. So 2181 02:06:31,340 --> 02:06:33,680 John C Dvorak: we have four out of a population of three, 50 2182 02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:35,000 million. Be 2183 02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:38,840 Adam Curry: afraid. Be afraid, if that doesn't scare you. Oh, 2184 02:06:38,900 --> 02:06:41,980 please. We've got plenty more where that came from. NBC, we're 2185 02:06:41,980 --> 02:06:43,960 Unknown: heading into the holiday weekend, and a special 2186 02:06:43,960 --> 02:06:46,600 guest no one wants on their travels is coming along anyway. 2187 02:06:46,600 --> 02:06:50,860 I'm talking about covid cases surging, hospitalizations up in 2188 02:06:50,860 --> 02:06:53,500 almost every state, and deaths double what they were in the 2189 02:06:53,500 --> 02:06:56,140 spring. We still seem to be hitting a stride of covid 2190 02:06:56,140 --> 02:06:58,960 normalcy, with some some travelers even opting not to 2191 02:06:59,080 --> 02:07:02,340 normalcy so covid doesn't disrupt their trips. Some, 2192 02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:05,520 Adam Curry: oh no, these horrible travelers opting not to 2193 02:07:05,580 --> 02:07:09,720 test so covid. Covid doesn't disrupt it. I hope everybody 2194 02:07:09,720 --> 02:07:12,540 tested before they came to my surprise birthday party. It 2195 02:07:12,540 --> 02:07:14,700 could have been a super spreader event. Bring in 2196 02:07:14,700 --> 02:07:17,400 Unknown: Doctor John Torres. Dr Torres, why the rise right now? 2197 02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:20,780 Is it mostly fueled by all the travel that we're doing? Or is 2198 02:07:20,780 --> 02:07:24,200 this new strain kind of really contagious, or both, 2199 02:07:25,040 --> 02:07:27,500 you're leading the witness. This is not the guest you want to 2200 02:07:27,500 --> 02:07:30,020 travel with or travel to. I think what's happening here is 2201 02:07:30,020 --> 02:07:32,960 kind of a confluence of a couple different things. Number one, 2202 02:07:33,020 --> 02:07:35,840 the variant is changing, and we know the variants can continue 2203 02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:38,120 to change, but in this case, it's changing one that's more 2204 02:07:38,120 --> 02:07:41,020 contagious, luckily, it's not more deadly, and that's the good 2205 02:07:41,020 --> 02:07:43,720 news behind that. But on top of that, certain things are 2206 02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:46,060 happening now that we haven't had happen over the last year 2207 02:07:46,060 --> 02:07:48,940 and a half or so. You know, people are aren't caring as much 2208 02:07:48,940 --> 02:07:51,340 about getting covid. They aren't testing as much. They aren't 2209 02:07:51,340 --> 02:07:53,620 getting vaccinated. It's a little bit delayed, and they're 2210 02:07:53,620 --> 02:07:56,860 certainly not wearing mastering like that. So, you know, whole 2211 02:07:56,860 --> 02:07:59,620 factors, all those added together, are, I think, are 2212 02:07:59,620 --> 02:08:02,340 causing this rise here. But by far the biggest one is that 2213 02:08:02,340 --> 02:08:05,100 variant changing to a more contagious status, which is 2214 02:08:05,100 --> 02:08:07,620 going to happen continuing as we go on here. Oh, yeah, 2215 02:08:07,620 --> 02:08:12,960 Adam Curry: as we gone, continue to change. So, yeah, yeah. Well, 2216 02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:15,780 could you give me a tip like no agenda, gives me a tip of the 2217 02:08:15,780 --> 02:08:18,420 day, gives me some good products to use. Give me some interesting 2218 02:08:18,420 --> 02:08:21,200 information. Could you give me a tip for the travel. 2219 02:08:21,260 --> 02:08:23,180 Unknown: In terms of travel, what steps should people be 2220 02:08:23,180 --> 02:08:25,820 taken to safely enjoy their time away, instead of the sort of 2221 02:08:25,820 --> 02:08:28,520 like, out of sight, out of mind mentality when it comes to 2222 02:08:28,520 --> 02:08:29,300 getting the virus, 2223 02:08:29,300 --> 02:08:30,500 Adam Curry: stay safe everybody. You 2224 02:08:30,500 --> 02:08:32,840 Unknown: know, I think that's an important thing to bring up. You 2225 02:08:32,840 --> 02:08:35,840 know, number one, the virus is still the virus. Is a virus is 2226 02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:38,540 still the virus. Can you continue to do things that's 2227 02:08:38,540 --> 02:08:41,260 done right now we're seeing higher cases than we've seen in 2228 02:08:41,260 --> 02:08:43,540 the last year and a half. But like I mentioned, it's more 2229 02:08:43,540 --> 02:08:46,480 contagious, but likely it's not more deadly, but it still is a 2230 02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:49,480 deadly virus, and people still end up in the hospital and dying 2231 02:08:49,480 --> 02:08:49,720 from 2232 02:08:49,720 --> 02:08:53,560 Adam Curry: it. Why hold on a second. It's not deadly, but it 2233 02:08:53,560 --> 02:08:56,560 still could be deadly. Maybe it's deadly. Do you know anyone 2234 02:08:56,560 --> 02:08:59,500 who's had covid at this moment in time, at this actually, I do 2235 02:08:59,620 --> 02:09:02,100 you Yes. JC, 2236 02:09:02,100 --> 02:09:05,160 John C Dvorak: Jesse and Theodore all have covid. Are 2237 02:09:05,160 --> 02:09:05,400 they? 2238 02:09:05,460 --> 02:09:07,740 Adam Curry: Are they dying? Well, they're 2239 02:09:07,740 --> 02:09:08,460 John C Dvorak: not happy. 2240 02:09:09,660 --> 02:09:11,220 Adam Curry: Well, tell them not to travel. He 2241 02:09:11,220 --> 02:09:14,160 John C Dvorak: got it because he went to Montreal for some event 2242 02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:16,860 and got it on the way back on a bus ride 2243 02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:19,920 Adam Curry: the most jabbed country in the world. Yeah, and 2244 02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:23,180 John C Dvorak: everyone was got sick on the bus, everybody, 2245 02:09:23,240 --> 02:09:27,680 yeah, he brought it here locally and gave it to the kids and his 2246 02:09:27,680 --> 02:09:30,620 Adam Curry: wife. He's work. He's the patient zero. 2247 02:09:30,980 --> 02:09:32,840 John C Dvorak: He's patient zero for the Bay Area. Now, 2248 02:09:33,140 --> 02:09:35,540 Unknown: there's a variety of reasons people aren't aren't 2249 02:09:35,540 --> 02:09:38,300 getting the vaccines. There's a variety of reasons people aren't 2250 02:09:38,300 --> 02:09:40,780 masking or testing. Is because they're horrible people. Those 2251 02:09:40,780 --> 02:09:43,060 are things that still work. You know, the vaccine granted. No, 2252 02:09:43,060 --> 02:09:45,520 they don't too late to get it for this weekend, but you 2253 02:09:45,520 --> 02:09:47,920 definitely want to get it for the fall season coming up, 2254 02:09:47,920 --> 02:09:51,160 because it's a new variant out there. Masking I always carry 2255 02:09:51,160 --> 02:09:53,980 mine. The last couple flights I've had, I've wanted the entire 2256 02:09:53,980 --> 02:09:56,320 flight because people are coughing and hacking around me. 2257 02:09:56,500 --> 02:09:59,020 I certainly don't want to get covid, or certainly don't want 2258 02:09:59,020 --> 02:10:00,120 to spread it to them. Ah. Yeah, 2259 02:10:01,020 --> 02:10:04,740 Adam Curry: I wore a I'm a good man. I'm a good man, and I wore 2260 02:10:04,740 --> 02:10:06,240 a mask the whole flight. 2261 02:10:06,300 --> 02:10:08,640 Unknown: And then think about that social distance, and we 2262 02:10:08,640 --> 02:10:10,920 used to do if you're sick, social distance, especially if 2263 02:10:10,920 --> 02:10:13,020 there's somebody that's vulnerable in the place you're 2264 02:10:13,020 --> 02:10:13,860 going to Christina, 2265 02:10:13,980 --> 02:10:17,100 Adam Curry: he's the he's Dr John over at the NBC Today Show 2266 02:10:17,220 --> 02:10:21,320 You can't stop talking. He's a chatterbox. But wait, just when 2267 02:10:21,320 --> 02:10:25,700 you thought it couldn't get even better than this, the miracle 2268 02:10:25,700 --> 02:10:28,580 cure just got more miraculous. Let's, let's 2269 02:10:28,580 --> 02:10:30,620 Unknown: talk treatments. We're learning from some new studies 2270 02:10:30,620 --> 02:10:33,680 that weight loss, drugs like govi might actually help prevent 2271 02:10:33,680 --> 02:10:35,660 covid. What do we know about that this 2272 02:10:35,660 --> 02:10:39,200 Adam Curry: is amazing. I mean, I mean, would you have a 2273 02:10:39,200 --> 02:10:41,260 hangnail ozempic? And 2274 02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:43,300 Unknown: this is one that's surprising a lot of people, 2275 02:10:43,300 --> 02:10:46,000 because it's not a result that has been expected. But what they 2276 02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:49,540 found out in the large we go V trial, 17,000 people, that of 2277 02:10:49,540 --> 02:10:53,320 those that got covid, the death rate was decreased by 33% and 2278 02:10:53,320 --> 02:10:56,320 this is the important part, that death rate was increased almost 2279 02:10:56,320 --> 02:10:58,840 immediately. In other words, as soon as they started taking the 2280 02:10:58,840 --> 02:11:01,500 drug, not once, the weight came off, because we know that 2281 02:11:01,500 --> 02:11:04,860 obesity can cause issues if you get covid, and so you know 2282 02:11:04,860 --> 02:11:07,140 losing that weight can be important, but in this case, 2283 02:11:07,140 --> 02:11:09,960 something else seem to be going on here is another factor that 2284 02:11:09,960 --> 02:11:12,180 scientists definitely need to dig into. And I think the 2285 02:11:12,180 --> 02:11:15,000 important point here is to realize that this is a study 2286 02:11:15,060 --> 02:11:17,580 that needs more studies to try and figure out what's happening 2287 02:11:17,580 --> 02:11:20,900 here and why this is benefiting the people, and is it something 2288 02:11:20,900 --> 02:11:23,720 that can benefit all of us and so hopefully, so keeping our 2289 02:11:23,720 --> 02:11:27,140 fingers crossed. It as we find out more about covid, we get 2290 02:11:27,140 --> 02:11:28,940 more answers as well, potentially exciting 2291 02:11:28,940 --> 02:11:32,000 if they can find out why that's happening. Dr John Torres, 2292 02:11:32,120 --> 02:11:34,400 Adam Curry: thank you so much. So exciting. Oh, but, but, I 2293 02:11:34,400 --> 02:11:38,480 mean, I don't have another clip, but now I do. Scientists have 2294 02:11:38,480 --> 02:11:43,480 discovered that ozempic is literally the fountain of youth. 2295 02:11:46,300 --> 02:11:51,400 It can turn back the clock on a host of diseases. This is, I 2296 02:11:51,400 --> 02:11:56,980 mean, John, we've got to get on this train. This ozempic fixes 2297 02:11:57,040 --> 02:12:01,620 everything. How could we it's been around for 18 years or so. 2298 02:12:01,740 --> 02:12:02,400 Yeah, now 2299 02:12:02,400 --> 02:12:04,080 John C Dvorak: they're just discovering all this. I guess 2300 02:12:04,080 --> 02:12:06,480 they never studied it at all. Is that what you're saying? 2301 02:12:06,780 --> 02:12:10,320 Adam Curry: I have no idea, but it's, it's fixes everything. 2302 02:12:10,920 --> 02:12:13,320 John C Dvorak: Well, you gotta get, gotta have it. It has to 2303 02:12:13,320 --> 02:12:16,620 have a lot more power near the end of its patent, uh, period, 2304 02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:20,280 because you can GOP. 2305 02:12:20,280 --> 02:12:23,960 Adam Curry: One is not patentable. It's, you know, the 2306 02:12:23,960 --> 02:12:28,400 only thing that's patented is there is the injector. That's 2307 02:12:28,400 --> 02:12:32,360 why you can compound it. But you got to have the brand name. You 2308 02:12:32,360 --> 02:12:35,960 don't want some dupe. No, I want to do well. I 2309 02:12:35,960 --> 02:12:38,120 John C Dvorak: think that you're missing the point of all these 2310 02:12:38,120 --> 02:12:39,020 diseases. Oh 2311 02:12:39,020 --> 02:12:39,740 Adam Curry: no, 2312 02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:44,080 John C Dvorak: because the big one coming our way any minute, 2313 02:12:44,500 --> 02:12:47,080 which will kill a lot more people, and it's a lot deadlier, 2314 02:12:47,080 --> 02:12:48,340 is polio, 2315 02:12:48,400 --> 02:12:52,660 Adam Curry: yeah, yeah, yeah, polio has a resurgence. I've 2316 02:12:52,660 --> 02:12:53,740 noticed that in 2317 02:12:54,400 --> 02:12:55,900 John C Dvorak: a bunch of clips, because war 2318 02:12:55,900 --> 02:12:59,260 Adam Curry: torn outbreak in Gaza, yes, war torn Gaza. 2319 02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:01,860 John C Dvorak: And I want to ask a question of you before I play 2320 02:13:01,860 --> 02:13:07,980 these clips. Okay, I was under the impression, based on what 2321 02:13:07,980 --> 02:13:11,340 the mainstream media has been telling me most of my life, for 2322 02:13:11,340 --> 02:13:19,140 years, for decades, that polio was eradicated. That's from the 2323 02:13:19,140 --> 02:13:21,380 world stage, eradicated, yep. And 2324 02:13:21,380 --> 02:13:23,660 Adam Curry: that's why you need you've heard this too, yes. And 2325 02:13:23,660 --> 02:13:28,340 the reason I heard it is because everyone told me that you need 2326 02:13:28,340 --> 02:13:34,460 the MMR shot for the measles, because, like Polio, we can 2327 02:13:34,460 --> 02:13:39,020 eradicate this horrible killer, even though I had measles and 2328 02:13:39,020 --> 02:13:43,000 had chicken pox and all that, and the mumps. So now polio 2329 02:13:43,000 --> 02:13:50,740 somehow magically appears in war torn Gaza, out of the blue, yes, 2330 02:13:51,100 --> 02:13:55,960 just in time for, I don't know, vaccine? Is it vaccine? Are they 2331 02:13:55,960 --> 02:13:56,860 doing sugar cubes? 2332 02:13:57,760 --> 02:13:59,740 John C Dvorak: Oh, funny, it's a vaccine. I 2333 02:13:59,740 --> 02:14:02,400 Adam Curry: thought I got, I got the sugar cube. I think back in 2334 02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:02,640 the day, 2335 02:14:02,700 --> 02:14:05,460 John C Dvorak: you know, that's another thing. Well, this will 2336 02:14:05,520 --> 02:14:10,200 come up in the conversation, okay, yes, it is a oral vaccine. 2337 02:14:10,980 --> 02:14:17,220 And I actually had the shot. I'm lucky to be alive, yes, indeed. 2338 02:14:17,460 --> 02:14:20,040 Because, seriously, I'm not lucky to be alive. A 2339 02:14:20,040 --> 02:14:22,940 Adam Curry: lot of people got polio from the polio vaccination 2340 02:14:22,940 --> 02:14:23,300 because 2341 02:14:23,300 --> 02:14:24,980 John C Dvorak: they had live virus. And a lot of them, the 2342 02:14:24,980 --> 02:14:27,620 ones from cutter labs in particular. Yes, indeed, cutter 2343 02:14:27,680 --> 02:14:30,020 I got that shot you got? Wait, wait, wait, 2344 02:14:30,260 --> 02:14:34,040 Adam Curry: you got the cutter labs polio vaccine? Yeah, you 2345 02:14:34,040 --> 02:14:35,660 are lucky to be alive. I 2346 02:14:35,660 --> 02:14:39,680 John C Dvorak: am. Wow. You the people listening to this 2347 02:14:39,680 --> 02:14:43,060 podcast, should donate to the show in thanks that I lived 2348 02:14:43,060 --> 02:14:48,340 through it. So I also, I'm lucky to be alive, and then I and I 2349 02:14:48,340 --> 02:14:51,520 never, you know, they obviously didn't get the bad batch, no, 2350 02:14:51,520 --> 02:14:57,580 but the but later, years later, I also got the sugar cube, the 2351 02:14:57,580 --> 02:14:59,920 Sabin. It was so. 2352 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,660 Adam Curry: Hold on. Hold on. I don't understand if you got the 2353 02:15:03,660 --> 02:15:08,220 polio vaccine, whether it was the good one or the bad one. Why 2354 02:15:08,220 --> 02:15:11,100 did you also have to take the sugar cube? Wasn't that one? One 2355 02:15:11,100 --> 02:15:12,900 and done with the polio drink? 2356 02:15:13,860 --> 02:15:15,000 John C Dvorak: I was duped 2357 02:15:15,120 --> 02:15:17,700 Adam Curry: with your parents certainly were. Well, 2358 02:15:17,940 --> 02:15:19,860 John C Dvorak: what am I going to do? I can't do anything now. 2359 02:15:19,860 --> 02:15:28,460 They're both dead. I can't sue him so. So here we go. I 2360 02:15:28,460 --> 02:15:31,400 Adam Curry: got a sugar cube, and, man, it was trippy. And 2361 02:15:31,400 --> 02:15:34,220 Unknown: war ravaged, Gaza, the United Nations is beginning to 2362 02:15:34,220 --> 02:15:37,760 administer polio vaccinations. This weekend, more than half a 2363 02:15:37,760 --> 02:15:41,620 million children are due for the shots. The virus has reemerged 2364 02:15:41,620 --> 02:15:45,220 in Gaza after more than 10 months of war between Israel and 2365 02:15:45,280 --> 02:15:49,420 Hamas NPR Kerry Khan reports that with so much of Gaza's 2366 02:15:49,480 --> 02:15:52,720 infrastructure and ruins, it will be a logistical challenge 2367 02:15:52,720 --> 02:15:55,360 to vaccinate 600,000 children. 2368 02:15:55,480 --> 02:15:58,960 There are many challenges ahead for UN health workers, including 2369 02:15:58,960 --> 02:16:02,280 getting the vaccines and patients to clinics, as well as 2370 02:16:02,280 --> 02:16:05,520 keeping the vaccines refrigerated, Israel has agreed 2371 02:16:05,520 --> 02:16:08,580 to limited pauses in the fighting in certain areas. Hamas 2372 02:16:08,580 --> 02:16:12,300 has said it will cooperate too. The polio virus has not been 2373 02:16:12,300 --> 02:16:16,680 present in Gaza for at least 25 years. It was recently detected 2374 02:16:16,680 --> 02:16:21,020 in a 10 month old boy who is now partially paralyzed. Doctors say 2375 02:16:21,020 --> 02:16:24,440 Many factors contribute to polio return, including kids not 2376 02:16:24,440 --> 02:16:28,760 having access to vaccines during nearly a year of war, wastewater 2377 02:16:28,760 --> 02:16:32,720 treatment plants are in ruins, and more than 90% of residents 2378 02:16:32,720 --> 02:16:34,940 have been displaced from their homes and now live in 2379 02:16:34,940 --> 02:16:36,500 substandard conditions. 2380 02:16:36,680 --> 02:16:41,860 Adam Curry: So the question, are we sure that Polio is a virus, 2381 02:16:42,520 --> 02:16:46,360 does that? Has that even been, yeah, determined. I 2382 02:16:46,359 --> 02:16:48,879 John C Dvorak: think it's pretty well confirmed, but it was 2383 02:16:48,879 --> 02:16:51,579 supposed to be eradicated. That's what gets me. 2384 02:16:51,760 --> 02:16:56,620 Adam Curry: Well, I know people probably around your age in the 2385 02:16:56,620 --> 02:17:01,080 UK who still have limp because they had polio as a kid, I mean, 2386 02:17:01,860 --> 02:17:07,200 but they're, you know, they're now of Medicare age. But I have 2387 02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:10,680 not seen anyone with polio. Heard of any polio, and how can 2388 02:17:10,680 --> 02:17:13,140 it be eradicated? This just makes me think, is it from 2389 02:17:13,140 --> 02:17:16,500 something else? Have we been duped about polio in general? 2390 02:17:16,500 --> 02:17:16,980 Logical 2391 02:17:16,980 --> 02:17:19,440 John C Dvorak: way to go, considering that you and I have 2392 02:17:19,440 --> 02:17:22,580 both been told it's been eradicated. Yes, and I know what 2393 02:17:22,580 --> 02:17:28,520 the definition of eradicated is. Yes, gone. All right. Part Two, 2394 02:17:28,700 --> 02:17:31,520 Unknown: polio, which has been gone from the Gaza Strip for 2395 02:17:31,520 --> 02:17:35,900 decades, is back as the war there continues, but there is 2396 02:17:35,900 --> 02:17:39,080 the possibility of good news tomorrow, the United Nations 2397 02:17:39,080 --> 02:17:44,140 will begin to vaccinate children in Gaza against that preventable 2398 02:17:44,200 --> 02:17:48,340 and highly contagious virus. It will be an enormous effort, one 2399 02:17:48,340 --> 02:17:51,160 that NPR international correspondent, a bit trowy will 2400 02:17:51,160 --> 02:17:54,520 follow from her base in Dubai, and she joins us now. Aya, 2401 02:17:54,520 --> 02:17:55,660 thanks for being with us. 2402 02:17:55,720 --> 02:17:56,500 Thank you, Scott. 2403 02:17:57,220 --> 02:17:59,440 Tell us about how this vaccination campaign is being 2404 02:17:59,440 --> 02:17:59,860 rolled out. 2405 02:18:00,459 --> 02:18:03,239 Well, the UN has really big aims here. They want to reach more 2406 02:18:03,239 --> 02:18:07,739 than 640,000 children across Gaza to give them two courses of 2407 02:18:07,739 --> 02:18:11,579 the polio vaccine. It will be given orally in droplets, but it 2408 02:18:11,579 --> 02:18:14,939 needs Refrigeration at every step. And pretty much Gaza has 2409 02:18:14,939 --> 02:18:18,059 no electricity. They're just running on generators and fuel 2410 02:18:18,059 --> 02:18:19,919 that's in short supply. If 2411 02:18:19,920 --> 02:18:21,260 Adam Curry: they have generators. They have 2412 02:18:21,260 --> 02:18:27,980 electricity. Sorry, she literally said they have no 2413 02:18:27,980 --> 02:18:30,560 electricity. They just have generators. Well, what does 2414 02:18:30,560 --> 02:18:31,760 generator do? It just 2415 02:18:32,660 --> 02:18:35,420 Unknown: it will be given orally in droplets, but it needs 2416 02:18:35,420 --> 02:18:38,660 Refrigeration at every step. And pretty much Gaza has no 2417 02:18:38,660 --> 02:18:41,620 electricity. They're just running on generators and fuel 2418 02:18:41,620 --> 02:18:44,260 that through short supply, another logistical challenge 2419 02:18:44,260 --> 02:18:47,140 here is that the whole population is displaced, and so 2420 02:18:47,140 --> 02:18:50,920 it's not easy for them to reach UNrun clinics. But the UN groups 2421 02:18:50,920 --> 02:18:53,800 leading this vaccination effort, which is UNICEF and the World 2422 02:18:53,800 --> 02:18:56,740 Health Organization, they say the most critical factor is a 2423 02:18:56,740 --> 02:18:59,620 pause in airstrikes so that the vaccines can reach all these 2424 02:18:59,620 --> 02:19:02,940 children. Now, Israel says it's agreed to short pauses, 2425 02:19:03,240 --> 02:19:05,880 basically it won't attack for about eight hours a day in 2426 02:19:05,880 --> 02:19:09,000 specific parts of Gaza for the few days that this campaign is 2427 02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:11,700 being rolled out. And Hamas says they'll also cooperate. 2428 02:19:12,959 --> 02:19:18,059 Adam Curry: So we're going to stop the war to give these kids 2429 02:19:18,059 --> 02:19:20,279 polio and then go back to bombing 2430 02:19:20,700 --> 02:19:22,640 John C Dvorak: polio vaccination, vaccine? Well, 2431 02:19:23,660 --> 02:19:28,160 Adam Curry: slip of the tongue, or was it didn't Bill Gates, 2432 02:19:28,340 --> 02:19:31,580 like, kill a whole bunch of children with his polio 2433 02:19:31,580 --> 02:19:34,220 vaccination. I mean, I don't, I don't 2434 02:19:34,220 --> 02:19:36,680 John C Dvorak: know what it was, but there was some situation 2435 02:19:36,680 --> 02:19:39,500 India where he got kicked out of the country, I think. And then 2436 02:19:39,500 --> 02:19:40,780 also in Africa, 2437 02:19:40,900 --> 02:19:43,420 Adam Curry: I'll take that back. I don't he didn't kill children, 2438 02:19:43,420 --> 02:19:46,540 but no, he didn't kill there was, there was a Bill and 2439 02:19:46,540 --> 02:19:49,420 Melinda Gates Foundation sponsored, if I remember 2440 02:19:49,420 --> 02:19:53,980 correctly, polio vaccination drive, yeah. And there was an 2441 02:19:53,980 --> 02:19:57,160 India and whole bunch of kids didn't turn out good for them. 2442 02:19:57,160 --> 02:20:01,260 So who says this isn't some kind of death. Shot to kill these 2443 02:20:01,260 --> 02:20:02,520 children in Gaza? 2444 02:20:03,540 --> 02:20:06,780 John C Dvorak: Well, I think that would be extreme. Oh, 2445 02:20:06,780 --> 02:20:10,200 Adam Curry: it's because it's so much more humane than bombing. 2446 02:20:13,860 --> 02:20:16,560 Yeah, exactly. I was waiting three 2447 02:20:16,860 --> 02:20:19,380 Unknown: How did the the polio spread there in the first place? 2448 02:20:19,380 --> 02:20:21,980 Doctors tell me this was a combination of factors. You 2449 02:20:21,980 --> 02:20:24,620 know, you have children Scott that haven't had access to 2450 02:20:24,620 --> 02:20:27,020 vaccines, but also most of Gaza's hospitals have been 2451 02:20:27,020 --> 02:20:29,840 destroyed or closed. You also have wastewater treatment plants 2452 02:20:29,840 --> 02:20:33,260 and desalination plants that have been bombed, so people have 2453 02:20:33,260 --> 02:20:36,200 been drinking dirty water to survive. And we know from the 2454 02:20:36,200 --> 02:20:39,140 Gaza health ministry that more than 40,000 people have been 2455 02:20:39,140 --> 02:20:42,220 killed by Israeli fire in this war, but we don't have a tally 2456 02:20:42,220 --> 02:20:44,920 for people who've died from illness. However, we know 2457 02:20:44,920 --> 02:20:47,680 there's been a huge spike in kids with infections and 2458 02:20:47,680 --> 02:20:51,040 diarrhea. Children are hungry. They are malnourished. They're 2459 02:20:51,040 --> 02:20:54,760 living in these overcrowded shelters open in tents with weak 2460 02:20:54,760 --> 02:20:55,660 immune systems. 2461 02:20:56,080 --> 02:20:59,140 And do we know how widespread polio could now be in Gaza? 2462 02:20:59,140 --> 02:20:59,320 Well, 2463 02:20:59,800 --> 02:21:03,060 there's already been a case confirmed in a 10 month old baby 2464 02:21:03,060 --> 02:21:06,600 boy who was active and crawling, and he's now paralyzed in one 2465 02:21:06,600 --> 02:21:10,680 leg after contracting polio, and he is the first case of polio in 2466 02:21:10,680 --> 02:21:14,520 a quarter century in Gaza. Now it comes after the Gaza Health 2467 02:21:14,520 --> 02:21:17,040 Ministry and the World Health Organization, they sounded the 2468 02:21:17,040 --> 02:21:20,600 alarm on this in July when they announced that the polio virus 2469 02:21:20,600 --> 02:21:23,660 had been found in sewage water flowing in the streets around 2470 02:21:23,660 --> 02:21:26,900 the tents of displaced people, and there are now at least two 2471 02:21:26,900 --> 02:21:31,220 other suspected cases as well. Now the symptoms for polio show 2472 02:21:31,280 --> 02:21:35,240 in one out of every 100 to 1000 people. So the doctors I spoke 2473 02:21:35,240 --> 02:21:38,420 with say this means 1000s of people in Gaza likely already 2474 02:21:38,420 --> 02:21:41,560 have contracted polio. It is spreading, and one doctor called 2475 02:21:41,560 --> 02:21:42,400 it a powder keg. 2476 02:21:43,600 --> 02:21:46,900 John C Dvorak: Hey, asymptomatic, that's a new one. 2477 02:21:47,260 --> 02:21:50,920 Adam Curry: Asymptomatic polio, because Did they mention they're 2478 02:21:50,920 --> 02:21:54,340 doing PCR testing? Because that's what I would suspect. 2479 02:21:54,820 --> 02:21:58,960 John C Dvorak: And no. In fact, let me mention this. There was a 2480 02:21:58,960 --> 02:22:05,400 lead. Be clear, there was a PBS had almost the identical report 2481 02:22:05,400 --> 02:22:09,360 as the NPR report. It was, it was uncanny. I recorded both of 2482 02:22:09,360 --> 02:22:13,140 them. I said, what? I can't use both of these almost identical. 2483 02:22:13,140 --> 02:22:17,340 They. This is a program. This has been put out for a reason. I 2484 02:22:17,340 --> 02:22:21,740 think the four kind of explains part of the reason. And it was 2485 02:22:21,740 --> 02:22:22,220 very 2486 02:22:23,840 --> 02:22:26,480 Adam Curry: I actually have three clips from the NPR, I 2487 02:22:26,480 --> 02:22:29,000 don't know if you want to hear them after yours, but no, this 2488 02:22:29,000 --> 02:22:32,780 is, this is NPR, oh, I'm sorry, you said PBS. Yes. Okay, here we 2489 02:22:32,780 --> 02:22:33,140 go. No, I 2490 02:22:33,140 --> 02:22:35,660 John C Dvorak: said PBS. Had the identical report, and I had to 2491 02:22:35,660 --> 02:22:37,760 decide which. Yeah, you took we both 2492 02:22:37,760 --> 02:22:39,260 Adam Curry: got. NPR, okay, no problem. 2493 02:22:39,380 --> 02:22:42,580 John C Dvorak: And so here's cake. I'm sorry, here's the end. 2494 02:22:43,840 --> 02:22:47,080 Unknown: Yes, powder keg. And that powder keg would present a 2495 02:22:47,080 --> 02:22:50,620 risk to other neighboring countries, wouldn't it? Oh, 2496 02:22:52,720 --> 02:22:55,420 Adam Curry: wow. NPR is really rocking the edits these days. 2497 02:22:55,420 --> 02:22:55,660 That's 2498 02:22:55,660 --> 02:22:58,600 Unknown: great. That powder keg would present a risk to other 2499 02:22:58,660 --> 02:23:01,260 neighboring countries, wouldn't it. Whoa. 2500 02:23:01,740 --> 02:23:05,880 Extremely so. I mean, you know, for weeks now, you have Israel's 2501 02:23:05,880 --> 02:23:08,340 military vaccinating its own soldiers, even if they've 2502 02:23:08,340 --> 02:23:11,280 already been vaccinated against polio before, because polio 2503 02:23:11,280 --> 02:23:15,180 spreads through water systems, aquifers and in droplets in the 2504 02:23:15,180 --> 02:23:18,420 air. And so not only could the virus spread to Israel, Egypt 2505 02:23:18,420 --> 02:23:21,740 and Jordan, it could also reach Europe and the US. You know, two 2506 02:23:21,740 --> 02:23:25,160 years ago, an unvaccinated Orthodox Jewish man in upstate 2507 02:23:25,160 --> 02:23:28,340 New York contracted polio, and the virus spread there, and the 2508 02:23:28,340 --> 02:23:31,880 strain of that virus was traced to Jerusalem and London, where 2509 02:23:31,880 --> 02:23:34,640 there's frequent travel back and forth. And so to try to 2510 02:23:34,640 --> 02:23:37,160 understand more about this, I reached out to Dr Jeffrey 2511 02:23:37,160 --> 02:23:41,140 Goldhagen. He is a pediatric professor at the University of 2512 02:23:41,140 --> 02:23:43,180 Florida and a global health expert, there 2513 02:23:43,180 --> 02:23:50,200 is no reason not to expect the disease to spread from Gaza to 2514 02:23:50,200 --> 02:23:53,380 the surrounding countries, to unvaccinated communities in 2515 02:23:53,380 --> 02:23:57,700 Israel, and from there to Europe, the UK and United 2516 02:23:57,880 --> 02:24:03,660 States. Only way of stopping the spread is by a successful, 2517 02:24:03,780 --> 02:24:07,560 rigorous polio vaccine campaign, 2518 02:24:07,620 --> 02:24:12,900 Adam Curry: okay? Oh, hold on. First of all, very anti semitic 2519 02:24:12,900 --> 02:24:17,040 report, NPR, you're making people afraid of Jews, because 2520 02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:21,560 you know that Jew might have polio. Second, are we now going 2521 02:24:21,560 --> 02:24:27,320 to see the campaign in Europe and in the United States to to 2522 02:24:27,320 --> 02:24:29,240 get your polio booster? 2523 02:24:30,980 --> 02:24:32,960 John C Dvorak: Well, did you hear the little the little 2524 02:24:32,960 --> 02:24:37,640 gotcha in there was the Israeli armed forces were getting a 2525 02:24:37,640 --> 02:24:41,020 shot, whether they had a shot or not or not. Yeah, so it's a 2526 02:24:41,020 --> 02:24:45,160 booster. So they're gonna try to this is a money maker. 2527 02:24:45,220 --> 02:24:49,720 Adam Curry: This is genocide. This is my opinion. And what 2528 02:24:49,720 --> 02:24:54,040 happened to cholera, good old cholera. That's, that's our 2529 02:24:54,100 --> 02:24:55,600 John C Dvorak: is coming. That's kidding. It's 2530 02:24:55,600 --> 02:24:56,860 Adam Curry: our disease of choice. 2531 02:24:56,920 --> 02:24:58,960 John C Dvorak: You gotta do these one at a time. 2532 02:24:59,800 --> 02:25:03,120 Adam Curry: So. Put it in the Red Book, cholera on deck for 2533 02:25:03,120 --> 02:25:04,680 Gaza. Yeah, 2534 02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:07,980 John C Dvorak: cholera should have been I would have guessed 2535 02:25:07,980 --> 02:25:12,480 that cholera would come up in the timeline before polio. Me 2536 02:25:12,480 --> 02:25:17,280 too. But no, they've decided to go with polio. You watch 2537 02:25:17,460 --> 02:25:19,680 Adam Curry: it's coming, everybody. You got to get a 2538 02:25:19,680 --> 02:25:24,980 booster for polio. Babies in America, babies, 2539 02:25:26,000 --> 02:25:27,080 Unknown: oh man, 2540 02:25:30,860 --> 02:25:34,880 Adam Curry: so disheartened. Never let up. They don't Well, 2541 02:25:34,880 --> 02:25:40,220 speaking of Never Letting up, this is one of your favorite 2542 02:25:40,220 --> 02:25:41,080 topics. There's a 2543 02:25:41,080 --> 02:25:43,540 Unknown: growing movement of social media influencers 2544 02:25:43,540 --> 02:25:47,860 promoting raw or unpasteurized milk. Wow. It's coincided with a 2545 02:25:47,860 --> 02:25:48,700 recent spike, by 2546 02:25:48,700 --> 02:25:51,460 Adam Curry: the way, is raw milk? By definite, is that or 2547 02:25:51,460 --> 02:25:56,260 unpasteurized? Is the is raw is unpasteurized equals raw milk. 2548 02:25:56,920 --> 02:25:58,960 John C Dvorak: I think it would, yeah, yeah. Well, 2549 02:25:58,960 --> 02:26:02,340 Adam Curry: these darn social, probably on Tiktok, these 2550 02:26:02,340 --> 02:26:04,380 horrible influencers promoting 2551 02:26:04,380 --> 02:26:08,100 Unknown: raw or unpasteurized milk, milk, it's coincided with 2552 02:26:08,100 --> 02:26:11,760 a recent spike in sales across the country. Half of US states 2553 02:26:11,760 --> 02:26:16,140 giving farmers the power to sour raw milk direct to consumers. 2554 02:26:16,260 --> 02:26:19,680 Adam Curry: We got to know we got on alive those farmers. It 2555 02:26:19,680 --> 02:26:20,180 is good 2556 02:26:20,180 --> 02:26:22,640 Unknown: for business, but health officials say the 2557 02:26:22,640 --> 02:26:26,300 consequences could be dangerous. Chanel call on 2558 02:26:26,300 --> 02:26:29,180 John C Dvorak: a second stop when he said it's good for what 2559 02:26:29,180 --> 02:26:33,680 business for the for the farm business to sell raw milk, it's 2560 02:26:33,680 --> 02:26:41,200 a pain in the ass. Yes, we have a raw milk dairy up in near 2561 02:26:41,200 --> 02:26:44,440 Port, Angeles, and we go there all the time. This guy, they 2562 02:26:44,440 --> 02:26:48,100 have to work like, 10 times harder than a normal dairy, 2563 02:26:48,160 --> 02:26:53,200 yeah, to produce raw milk, it is not good for business. 2564 02:26:53,620 --> 02:26:58,180 Adam Curry: No, I'm with you. I'm with you. But maybe there's 2565 02:26:58,180 --> 02:27:01,740 polio in the raw milk. You never know on this dairy farm in here. 2566 02:27:01,860 --> 02:27:03,000 Yes, coming Arrington, 2567 02:27:03,000 --> 02:27:06,420 Unknown: Delaware, we take a clean towel off of the team. 2568 02:27:07,200 --> 02:27:12,300 Stephanie Knutson is busy milking her cows. So the cows 2569 02:27:12,300 --> 02:27:15,960 are milked twice a day. This milk gets pasteurized and sold 2570 02:27:15,960 --> 02:27:19,140 at grocery stores across the country. She's a good doobie. 2571 02:27:19,140 --> 02:27:22,220 We're milking her into this bucket milk are down here, but 2572 02:27:22,220 --> 02:27:26,360 come January, Knutson hopes to sell it raw. We have always 2573 02:27:26,360 --> 02:27:30,140 drank raw milk and that we produce on the farm. I'm a big 2574 02:27:30,140 --> 02:27:33,620 proponent of this being regulated. People are having a 2575 02:27:33,620 --> 02:27:37,520 heart and regulation could soon be coming as Delaware considers 2576 02:27:37,520 --> 02:27:41,440 legalizing the sale of raw milk, amid a recent and growing 2577 02:27:41,440 --> 02:27:43,360 movement online. I drink 2578 02:27:43,360 --> 02:27:46,660 raw cream in my coffee every morning. Raw Farm Show me raw 2579 02:27:46,660 --> 02:27:49,720 farm dairy. If I'm going to do milk, it's going to be raw milk 2580 02:27:49,720 --> 02:27:52,420 that I get at the farmer's market. Celebrities, 2581 02:27:52,420 --> 02:27:56,380 influencers, even some politicians, are endorsing raw 2582 02:27:56,380 --> 02:28:00,660 milk, milk that is not been pasteurized or boiled to kill 2583 02:28:00,660 --> 02:28:01,920 dangerous germs 2584 02:28:01,920 --> 02:28:07,680 Adam Curry: like polio. We had due to climate change. Now it's 2585 02:28:07,680 --> 02:28:12,540 due to raw milk polio. So let's bring in Dr gounder. You'll 2586 02:28:12,540 --> 02:28:14,100 recall, she is the one who 2587 02:28:14,280 --> 02:28:17,760 John C Dvorak: would before you do that, it just comes across. 2588 02:28:18,240 --> 02:28:22,580 I'm thinking, this raw milk, anti raw milk thing has been 2589 02:28:22,580 --> 02:28:25,220 going on for I know we've been covering it for over a year. 2590 02:28:25,220 --> 02:28:26,780 Adam Curry: Oh, much longer than that. 2591 02:28:27,380 --> 02:28:32,600 John C Dvorak: And I like to know why, why is it? Why is it 2592 02:28:32,600 --> 02:28:36,740 an issue? Who cares? It's a very small minority of dairies that 2593 02:28:36,740 --> 02:28:41,200 even try to make it, and most of them are over regulated already, 2594 02:28:41,200 --> 02:28:43,480 because you have to have a lot of inspections, because you have 2595 02:28:43,480 --> 02:28:44,440 to be careful. There 2596 02:28:44,440 --> 02:28:48,460 Adam Curry: it is, more inspections, more inspections, 2597 02:28:48,460 --> 02:28:52,000 control of the food supply. Hello. It's about control. 2598 02:28:52,000 --> 02:28:55,300 That's all that. It's not about your health. It's about control. 2599 02:28:57,040 --> 02:28:59,380 That's the that's the only thing I can see. What else is it? 2600 02:28:59,380 --> 02:29:02,340 Well, maybe Dr gounder can help us understand. We 2601 02:29:02,340 --> 02:29:05,340 Unknown: ask CBS News Medical contributor, Doctor Celine 2602 02:29:05,340 --> 02:29:07,080 gounder to weigh in. 2603 02:29:07,380 --> 02:29:11,220 There is no nutritional benefit from drinking raw milk. People 2604 02:29:11,220 --> 02:29:14,040 like the idea of it. Maybe they think it tastes better. Maybe 2605 02:29:14,040 --> 02:29:17,580 they think it's, quote, more natural, yes, but it's really no 2606 02:29:17,580 --> 02:29:20,960 more natural than drinking water that has not been treated, 2607 02:29:21,440 --> 02:29:24,560 Adam Curry: which I also drink out of my well and all that 2608 02:29:24,560 --> 02:29:28,220 bacteria can lead to health problems like polio, E 2609 02:29:28,220 --> 02:29:32,060 Unknown: coli, Campylobacter, salmonella, these can give you 2610 02:29:32,060 --> 02:29:36,920 fever, abdominal pain, diarrhea, kidney failure. Listeria can 2611 02:29:36,920 --> 02:29:40,900 cause fetal abnormalities, even fetal death. This 2612 02:29:40,900 --> 02:29:44,440 year, doctors found high concentrations of the bird flu 2613 02:29:44,440 --> 02:29:48,520 virus in the raw milk of infected dairy cattle. 2614 02:29:48,520 --> 02:29:53,200 Salmonella outbreak linked to raw milk sickened 170 people on 2615 02:29:53,200 --> 02:29:55,720 the West Coast. Oh, 2616 02:29:55,720 --> 02:30:01,020 Adam Curry: no, oh, bird flu in your milk. No. Good. Let's wrap 2617 02:30:01,020 --> 02:30:04,560 it up here these crazy influencers. We've got to put a 2618 02:30:04,560 --> 02:30:05,700 stop to this. So 2619 02:30:05,700 --> 02:30:08,880 Unknown: why is raw milk popularity and access still 2620 02:30:08,880 --> 02:30:09,540 growing? I 2621 02:30:09,540 --> 02:30:12,660 think this goes back to people's lack of trust in public health 2622 02:30:12,660 --> 02:30:16,620 and wanting to feel like they can make choices for themselves. 2623 02:30:16,800 --> 02:30:20,340 Unfortunately, in this case, that is not the healthy choice 2624 02:30:20,460 --> 02:30:20,660 the 2625 02:30:20,660 --> 02:30:24,920 CDC, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American 2626 02:30:24,920 --> 02:30:29,480 Medical Association all agree. But in a bid to help struggling 2627 02:30:29,480 --> 02:30:32,060 dairy farmers, it's been very difficult to 2628 02:30:32,060 --> 02:30:34,040 operate on the positive side of things 2629 02:30:35,720 --> 02:30:39,980 for 20 some years now, more than half of US states created a 2630 02:30:39,980 --> 02:30:44,020 pathway for raw milk to be sold directly to consumers within 2631 02:30:44,020 --> 02:30:48,940 state lines. With raw milk, we can set the price, and that 2632 02:30:48,940 --> 02:30:53,560 national average price for raw milk is 10 to $14 a gallon from 2633 02:30:53,560 --> 02:30:57,160 our co op. You know, we might be getting a buck 50 a gallon. So 2634 02:30:57,160 --> 02:31:01,680 without federal oversight, the standards are inconsistent. 2635 02:31:01,800 --> 02:31:04,560 States have been left to come up with their own rules. They are 2636 02:31:04,560 --> 02:31:07,980 really, literally all over the place, from pretty much 2637 02:31:08,040 --> 02:31:10,920 incidental sales being totally unregulated, and all you have to 2638 02:31:10,920 --> 02:31:14,760 do is put a warning label on it to say it's unpasteurized to 2639 02:31:14,760 --> 02:31:20,100 other states that require, you know, a lot more high level 2640 02:31:20,100 --> 02:31:23,840 testing, while doctors still warn against consumption, 2641 02:31:24,200 --> 02:31:28,340 farmers like the knudsens see an opportunity. She's opt to meet 2642 02:31:28,340 --> 02:31:33,140 this growing milk market. It can absolutely help us to thrive, 2643 02:31:33,260 --> 02:31:34,520 not just survive. 2644 02:31:36,560 --> 02:31:39,080 Adam Curry: Well, it's a very confusing series of reports 2645 02:31:39,080 --> 02:31:42,760 there, other than I'm afraid to drink it. 2646 02:31:43,240 --> 02:31:45,340 John C Dvorak: You know, what's annoying about these reporting, 2647 02:31:45,340 --> 02:31:49,420 this reporting and these reports, is they say stuff like, 2648 02:31:49,420 --> 02:31:52,420 Well, yeah, and then some states don't do this, and some states 2649 02:31:52,420 --> 02:31:57,400 do that, and some states, what states are we talking about? 2650 02:31:57,400 --> 02:32:01,140 Named the states? What kind of reporting is it to say some 2651 02:32:01,140 --> 02:32:04,560 states do this and some states do that without telling us 2652 02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:08,460 specifically the states? Does it take that much work for a 2653 02:32:08,460 --> 02:32:14,880 reporter to make a phone call find out what the states are 2654 02:32:14,940 --> 02:32:18,840 apparently? Is it too much work to tell the public that they're 2655 02:32:18,840 --> 02:32:21,680 reporting to what states they're talking about. 2656 02:32:21,740 --> 02:32:24,620 Adam Curry: Is it reporting, or is it mind control? 2657 02:32:25,880 --> 02:32:28,100 John C Dvorak: You tell me, yeah. All I know is that these 2658 02:32:28,280 --> 02:32:33,320 this journalism sucks. It stinks. There's no details 2659 02:32:33,320 --> 02:32:37,100 whatsoever this like, oh, it's up 10% what does that mean? 2660 02:32:38,900 --> 02:32:41,260 Adam Curry: Are you are you done? Yeah, I'm 2661 02:32:41,260 --> 02:32:44,380 John C Dvorak: John, C, D, bore today. 2662 02:32:45,460 --> 02:32:48,100 Adam Curry: Well, they mentioned the bird flu, which has kind of 2663 02:32:48,100 --> 02:32:51,400 fallen by the wayside, which is very slip that in, yeah. Well, 2664 02:32:51,400 --> 02:32:56,260 we've, we've, I have one bird flu report we just had last 2665 02:32:56,260 --> 02:33:02,340 weekend, the Gillespie County Fair, which is the large, the 2666 02:33:02,340 --> 02:33:06,600 oldest fair in the state of Texas, and right around the 2667 02:33:06,600 --> 02:33:10,620 corner from the Texas State Fair. Yep, this is the one. This 2668 02:33:10,620 --> 02:33:15,060 is the oldest Texas State Fair I have not, Oh, it's great. I've 2669 02:33:15,060 --> 02:33:17,940 John C Dvorak: been there. Well, it's one of the best state fairs 2670 02:33:17,940 --> 02:33:18,540 in the country. 2671 02:33:18,600 --> 02:33:21,740 Adam Curry: Well, we have the, we have the oldest here in 2672 02:33:21,740 --> 02:33:24,380 Galatia. It was, it was cute. You know, we had throughout the 2673 02:33:24,380 --> 02:33:27,980 you know, there's everyone with their prize cows and their pigs 2674 02:33:27,980 --> 02:33:32,540 and and cowboys everywhere. No, it was nice. It was kind of old 2675 02:33:32,540 --> 02:33:33,080 school 2676 02:33:33,320 --> 02:33:36,260 John C Dvorak: auction by a pig. Yep, they 2677 02:33:36,740 --> 02:33:37,820 Adam Curry: had the auction. 2678 02:33:37,940 --> 02:33:39,680 John C Dvorak: Did you buy a pig on the hoof? 2679 02:33:40,040 --> 02:33:42,580 Adam Curry: No, I didn't go. Are you kidding me? It was too hot. 2680 02:33:43,180 --> 02:33:46,780 However, in Minnesota, they have a state fair with new 2681 02:33:46,780 --> 02:33:47,800 regulations. 2682 02:33:50,020 --> 02:33:53,740 Unknown: Sounds of The Steele County Fair are in full force. 2683 02:33:55,780 --> 02:33:57,220 That includes a melody 2684 02:33:57,220 --> 02:33:59,320 of moves, Melody 2685 02:34:00,880 --> 02:34:04,560 Maddie Murphy brought her cow named collarbone, hoping for the 2686 02:34:04,560 --> 02:34:06,000 top pro. It's 2687 02:34:06,000 --> 02:34:06,840 exciting. 2688 02:34:07,080 --> 02:34:09,360 I love doing it with bird flu 2689 02:34:09,360 --> 02:34:13,020 infecting some Minnesota cows this year, collarbone needed to 2690 02:34:13,020 --> 02:34:15,120 be tested before she could appear and 2691 02:34:15,120 --> 02:34:16,440 Adam Curry: notice the music change. 2692 02:34:18,840 --> 02:34:20,600 Unknown: Bird Flu infecting some Minnesota 2693 02:34:20,600 --> 02:34:24,440 cows this year, collarbone needed to be tested before she 2694 02:34:24,440 --> 02:34:26,600 could appear at the fair. We have to make 2695 02:34:26,600 --> 02:34:29,960 sure to test all the cows. Are milking cows and make sure that 2696 02:34:29,960 --> 02:34:32,060 they're negative before we bring them into the barn. 2697 02:34:33,500 --> 02:34:36,500 Minnesota Health officials are requiring testing of some cows 2698 02:34:36,500 --> 02:34:40,580 for the h5 and one virus at county fairs and State Fair. 2699 02:34:40,580 --> 02:34:40,700 Have 2700 02:34:40,700 --> 02:34:44,020 to take extra precautions, like we did during covid. This is the 2701 02:34:44,020 --> 02:34:44,380 first 2702 02:34:44,380 --> 02:34:47,320 time at the Steele County Fair, they've ever had to do this type 2703 02:34:47,320 --> 02:34:47,920 of testing. 2704 02:34:48,220 --> 02:34:50,380 This year is a little bit different. It's a little 2705 02:34:50,380 --> 02:34:51,880 stressful for all of us. Sandy 2706 02:34:51,880 --> 02:34:55,840 jurly with the fair, make sure the tests have been done. As the 2707 02:34:55,840 --> 02:35:00,360 trailers come in, I ask for their paperwork. Wait. Feel it's 2708 02:35:00,360 --> 02:35:04,800 very important. We we don't want to have any of our animals come 2709 02:35:04,800 --> 02:35:08,100 down with this. The Minnesota Department of Animal Health 2710 02:35:08,160 --> 02:35:10,380 feels it's important, so we're going to follow what they're 2711 02:35:10,380 --> 02:35:11,220 requesting. We 2712 02:35:11,220 --> 02:35:14,100 Adam Curry: do what we are told to do papers. Please of your 2713 02:35:14,100 --> 02:35:23,060 cow, yes, test your cows. Yeah, you obey? Yes, you will obey. 2714 02:35:23,060 --> 02:35:25,460 Indeed. I'd like melody of moves. 2715 02:35:26,480 --> 02:35:28,280 John C Dvorak: I wrote a Dennis's show title. Yeah, it's 2716 02:35:28,280 --> 02:35:29,120 a possibility. 2717 02:35:29,960 --> 02:35:35,120 Adam Curry: Let me just there's some messaging here in this, in 2718 02:35:35,120 --> 02:35:39,260 these two Ukraine stories, it's a two stories, but basically 2719 02:35:39,260 --> 02:35:44,320 the, you know, it's the same story, but two reports with two 2720 02:35:44,800 --> 02:35:51,700 similar, I think, messages which need to be discussed, and these 2721 02:35:51,700 --> 02:35:56,320 come from let me see, is this a US report? No, I think these are 2722 02:35:56,320 --> 02:35:58,120 foreign, foreigner reports. 2723 02:35:58,180 --> 02:36:00,360 Unknown: Al, let's talk about a subject that we have talked 2724 02:36:00,360 --> 02:36:04,500 about so often here, the Russia, Ukraine war, and the fact that 2725 02:36:04,680 --> 02:36:09,780 US made us provided f 16 are now flying in the skies of this 2726 02:36:09,780 --> 02:36:14,460 Adam Curry: us made. You know, F 16 are sold to people and 2727 02:36:14,460 --> 02:36:18,540 countries all over the world. But then they have to point out 2728 02:36:18,540 --> 02:36:24,440 it's us made. Well, yeah. You know, we make all the stuff and 2729 02:36:24,440 --> 02:36:29,300 Unknown: the fact that US made us provided f 16 are now flying 2730 02:36:29,300 --> 02:36:33,560 in the skies of Ukraine in this war there. But the Wall Street 2731 02:36:33,560 --> 02:36:36,680 Journal, our friend Laura Seligman, had this scoop today 2732 02:36:36,680 --> 02:36:40,160 us how, and this is what she is reporting. I want to read from 2733 02:36:40,160 --> 02:36:44,260 her article that a Ukrainian pilot was killed in combat when 2734 02:36:44,260 --> 02:36:48,820 his F 16 jet fighter crashed on Monday, just weeks after the 2735 02:36:48,820 --> 02:36:52,300 first of the American made aircraft arrived in Ukraine. Now 2736 02:36:52,300 --> 02:36:56,620 this is according to both us and Ukrainian officials, according 2737 02:36:56,620 --> 02:37:00,780 to Laura seligmans reporting, she goes on to say the pilot 2738 02:37:00,780 --> 02:37:04,140 died while helping to repel a massive Russian missile attack. 2739 02:37:04,140 --> 02:37:08,160 Monday, initial reports indicate the jet was not shot down by 2740 02:37:08,160 --> 02:37:12,060 enemy fire. Us. Officials said the Pentagon referred questions 2741 02:37:12,060 --> 02:37:16,200 to the Ukrainian Air Force for comment. The Ukrainian Air Force 2742 02:37:16,200 --> 02:37:19,680 acknowledged the crash and pilots death in a statement 2743 02:37:20,160 --> 02:37:23,480 today, Ukraine used the jets for the first time in combat to 2744 02:37:23,480 --> 02:37:26,840 shoot down Russian missiles during the strikes this week, 2745 02:37:26,840 --> 02:37:29,900 according to President Volodymyr Zelensky. Okay, 2746 02:37:29,900 --> 02:37:34,340 Adam Curry: so we have us. Made us. Made us, made and it comes 2747 02:37:34,340 --> 02:37:36,440 back in the second report, 2748 02:37:36,560 --> 02:37:38,840 Unknown: Ukraine's president announced the sacking of the air 2749 02:37:38,840 --> 02:37:42,100 force chief in his nightly address, he didn't give a 2750 02:37:42,100 --> 02:37:45,760 specific reason, but The move came days after an F 16 fighter 2751 02:37:45,760 --> 02:37:49,120 jet delivered to Ukraine earlier this month from its Western 2752 02:37:49,120 --> 02:37:53,920 allies was shot down. Ukraine initially said the US made F 16 2753 02:37:53,920 --> 02:37:57,820 was shot down by Russian forces, but military analysts suspect it 2754 02:37:57,820 --> 02:38:00,960 may have been downed in a case of friendly fire. Zelensky 2755 02:38:00,960 --> 02:38:06,180 statement did not go into detail, a probe into the crash 2756 02:38:06,180 --> 02:38:10,320 is underway. Us. Ukrainian and foreign military analysts are 2757 02:38:10,320 --> 02:38:13,620 investigating the potential causes. They speculate the 2758 02:38:13,620 --> 02:38:16,680 warplane was shot down accidentally by Ukraine itself 2759 02:38:16,920 --> 02:38:19,560 using the country's us manufactured Patriot missile 2760 02:38:19,560 --> 02:38:20,040 system. 2761 02:38:21,240 --> 02:38:25,880 Adam Curry: So a US made F 16 was shot down by a US made 2762 02:38:25,880 --> 02:38:30,020 Patriot missile, which I believe to be true. What is this 2763 02:38:30,020 --> 02:38:33,260 messaging? What am I not understanding? Or what are they 2764 02:38:33,260 --> 02:38:35,060 trying to say? Here I 2765 02:38:35,060 --> 02:38:37,820 John C Dvorak: got one report, which may include some of this 2766 02:38:37,820 --> 02:38:41,800 information from my Ukraine clip, but the guy who is the 2767 02:38:41,800 --> 02:38:45,100 head of the Ukrainian Air Force was fired, fired, yeah, of 2768 02:38:45,100 --> 02:38:47,500 course. And that was mentioned in those reports. 2769 02:38:47,680 --> 02:38:50,620 Adam Curry: We just mentioned it. He did. Were you not 2770 02:38:50,620 --> 02:38:51,760 listening to my report? I 2771 02:38:51,760 --> 02:38:54,220 John C Dvorak: was listening to I was listening specifically to 2772 02:38:54,220 --> 02:38:55,540 hear that, and I didn't hear it. He 2773 02:38:55,540 --> 02:38:58,900 Adam Curry: literally said, Zelensky fired his air force 2774 02:38:58,900 --> 02:39:02,760 chief. Oh, yeah, missed it somehow, yeah. Well, because you 2775 02:39:02,760 --> 02:39:05,040 are too busy, think I got a better clip than that. 2776 02:39:05,760 --> 02:39:08,100 John C Dvorak: I don't have a better clip than that. Well, no, 2777 02:39:08,100 --> 02:39:10,440 of course you could, I said, have a different clip. Well, you 2778 02:39:10,440 --> 02:39:14,880 were thinking about it. Maybe it's possible he was he may have 2779 02:39:14,880 --> 02:39:16,500 caught me in a moment of thought 2780 02:39:17,640 --> 02:39:19,560 Adam Curry: or fog. Who knows? 2781 02:39:21,060 --> 02:39:24,080 Unknown: Just play this clip. So today, a Russian guided bomb 2782 02:39:24,080 --> 02:39:26,840 attack on Ukraine's second largest city killed at least 2783 02:39:26,840 --> 02:39:30,800 five people and injured dozens more. Authorities in Kharkiv say 2784 02:39:30,800 --> 02:39:34,220 the bombs hit five locations across the city, including a 2785 02:39:34,220 --> 02:39:37,580 playground where at least one child died. Others were killed 2786 02:39:37,580 --> 02:39:40,660 in a nearby apartment building that caught fire as a result of 2787 02:39:40,660 --> 02:39:43,960 that attack. Meantime, in Washington, Defense Secretary 2788 02:39:43,960 --> 02:39:47,320 Lloyd Austin met with his Ukrainian counterpart today and 2789 02:39:47,320 --> 02:39:50,500 condemned Moscow's recent wave of strikes on civilian 2790 02:39:50,500 --> 02:39:51,700 infrastructure. Let 2791 02:39:51,700 --> 02:39:55,360 me be clear. Let me be clear. Let me be clear. It is never, 2792 02:39:55,540 --> 02:39:58,420 never acceptable to target civilians, and Ukraine's 2793 02:39:58,420 --> 02:40:01,440 resilience will help it prevent. Over Putin's aggression and 2794 02:40:01,440 --> 02:40:03,240 atrocities. Separately, 2795 02:40:03,240 --> 02:40:06,120 Ukraine's president has fired the country's Air Force 2796 02:40:06,120 --> 02:40:09,960 Commander after an F 16 war plane supplied by Ukraine's 2797 02:40:09,960 --> 02:40:13,800 Western allies crashed earlier this week. U S experts have 2798 02:40:13,800 --> 02:40:17,460 joined the investigation into why the jet went down during a 2799 02:40:17,460 --> 02:40:21,440 Russian missile and drone barrage on Monday. Well, 2800 02:40:21,500 --> 02:40:27,620 Adam Curry: they didn't use the US made moniker, which is no the 2801 02:40:27,620 --> 02:40:28,400 scios. They, 2802 02:40:28,400 --> 02:40:30,500 John C Dvorak: I think they. Well, where'd you get that other 2803 02:40:30,500 --> 02:40:30,800 clip? 2804 02:40:31,940 --> 02:40:35,180 Adam Curry: Well, I think the first one must have been a US 2805 02:40:35,180 --> 02:40:39,200 one. I don't have it marked, sadly. The second one was 2806 02:40:39,200 --> 02:40:44,260 France, 24 I believe the first one, I'm unsure where it came 2807 02:40:44,260 --> 02:40:44,620 from. 2808 02:40:46,900 --> 02:40:48,700 John C Dvorak: There's some reason they were saying that 2809 02:40:48,700 --> 02:40:51,940 they're not us here, because I think we're not that dumb. Well, 2810 02:40:51,940 --> 02:40:54,340 Adam Curry: I would like to point out that we are a US made 2811 02:40:54,340 --> 02:40:59,380 podcast. We are and I have a possible exit strategy that's 2812 02:40:59,380 --> 02:41:02,340 been staring us in the face for a long time. 2813 02:41:04,560 --> 02:41:06,660 John C Dvorak: Yes, I have to point out to you that Mimi's 2814 02:41:06,660 --> 02:41:08,280 objecting to this concept. 2815 02:41:08,400 --> 02:41:10,860 Adam Curry: Do you even know what my concept is? It doesn't 2816 02:41:10,860 --> 02:41:11,640 matter. Oh, 2817 02:41:12,420 --> 02:41:15,000 John C Dvorak: she says that every time you mention exit 2818 02:41:15,000 --> 02:41:20,520 strategy, it gives her a The Chill, chill, uh huh. And she's 2819 02:41:20,520 --> 02:41:23,900 she says is a triggering. It's triggering, and she says it's 2820 02:41:23,900 --> 02:41:25,040 hurting donations. 2821 02:41:25,340 --> 02:41:29,120 Adam Curry: Well, what if I told her that we could with with our 2822 02:41:29,120 --> 02:41:36,080 Dutch masters, we could bring in maybe five, $600 million as an 2823 02:41:36,080 --> 02:41:39,500 exit strategy? Would that give her a different billionaire 2824 02:41:39,500 --> 02:41:43,540 John C Dvorak: hurt donations we've had bet that'll hurt 2825 02:41:43,540 --> 02:41:46,180 donations more? They got that much money? Well, they don't 2826 02:41:46,180 --> 02:41:46,840 need mine, 2827 02:41:49,840 --> 02:41:52,360 Adam Curry: really now. So you're saying that our joke 2828 02:41:52,360 --> 02:41:55,060 about exit strategy, which will never achieve and have been 2829 02:41:55,060 --> 02:41:58,960 talking about for almost 17 years. I think show number 10 we 2830 02:41:58,960 --> 02:42:02,220 were talking about, how do we get out of this gig that's been 2831 02:42:02,220 --> 02:42:03,540 hurting donations. 2832 02:42:05,040 --> 02:42:11,700 John C Dvorak: She says, Yes, let me be clear. But what is 2833 02:42:11,700 --> 02:42:13,920 this? I want to hear this. Oh, you're interested. You're 2834 02:42:13,920 --> 02:42:16,380 interested. Well, I'm interested. I'm just telling 2835 02:42:16,380 --> 02:42:18,600 you, we're good. Donations are going to be down because of it. 2836 02:42:20,220 --> 02:42:24,680 Adam Curry: Well, that you're possibly right. But what do we 2837 02:42:24,680 --> 02:42:27,980 have with our artists? We have a number of our artists who are 2838 02:42:27,980 --> 02:42:33,080 what talented talent, but I'm talking about they have talent. 2839 02:42:33,080 --> 02:42:34,400 Yes, they're talented. And 2840 02:42:34,400 --> 02:42:37,220 John C Dvorak: there is, there's a number of artists. Now this is 2841 02:42:37,220 --> 02:42:41,680 different, by the way, yeah, we got have become Yes, yes, of the 2842 02:42:41,680 --> 02:42:43,120 highest order, yes, 2843 02:42:43,180 --> 02:42:47,860 Adam Curry: exactly. So I've identified a trend that, well, 2844 02:42:47,860 --> 02:42:53,320 I've identified it because CNBC gave me a clip about it. The the 2845 02:42:53,320 --> 02:42:56,380 trend is, you want to play the clip, now play the clip, and 2846 02:42:56,380 --> 02:43:00,480 then you tell me that we can't incorporate with some of our 2847 02:43:00,480 --> 02:43:03,120 expert prompt jockeys. And I think every single one of our 2848 02:43:03,120 --> 02:43:05,220 artists could do this, I 2849 02:43:05,220 --> 02:43:09,420 John C Dvorak: think we get at least 10, well, professional 2850 02:43:09,420 --> 02:43:14,760 prompt jockeys that are languishing so in the in the 2851 02:43:14,760 --> 02:43:16,740 world. So what is the languishing? What is because 2852 02:43:16,740 --> 02:43:19,500 they're not being exploited as they should be? And most 2853 02:43:19,500 --> 02:43:22,400 artists, by the way, want to be exploited, because they like to 2854 02:43:22,400 --> 02:43:23,120 get their stuff out 2855 02:43:23,120 --> 02:43:25,100 Adam Curry: of there. That's right. So what is the big 2856 02:43:25,100 --> 02:43:28,160 problem with artificial intelligence, with all these AI 2857 02:43:28,160 --> 02:43:33,140 startup companies, I don't know what. They're not making any 2858 02:43:33,140 --> 02:43:37,940 money there. Never will exactly, they're not making any money. 2859 02:43:38,780 --> 02:43:40,040 And this is what's happening 2860 02:43:40,100 --> 02:43:43,060 Unknown: character. AI was one of the most promising startups 2861 02:43:43,060 --> 02:43:47,200 in the age of generative. Ai, personalized AI, highly 2862 02:43:47,200 --> 02:43:52,120 engaging, loyal user base, $150 million in funding at a billion 2863 02:43:52,120 --> 02:43:53,140 dollar valuation. 2864 02:43:53,140 --> 02:43:55,960 Character.ai launched its software last September, and has 2865 02:43:55,960 --> 02:43:56,560 had more than 173 2866 02:43:57,580 --> 02:44:00,760 million visits last month, a 61% increase from March and a 2867 02:44:00,760 --> 02:44:04,020 founder who pioneered generative AI, there was just one problem, 2868 02:44:04,080 --> 02:44:07,140 the startup couldn't make money. And according to reports, it 2869 02:44:07,140 --> 02:44:09,900 struggled to generate enough revenue from paid users. 2870 02:44:09,960 --> 02:44:10,440 Character 2871 02:44:10,440 --> 02:44:14,220 AI, billion dollar valuation, pre revenue, very much feels 2872 02:44:14,220 --> 02:44:17,700 like the 2010 app store, where you gain a lot of users and kind 2873 02:44:17,700 --> 02:44:20,120 of figure out the monetization later. So it 2874 02:44:20,120 --> 02:44:24,200 turned to a well established money printing mega cap Google, 2875 02:44:24,440 --> 02:44:27,260 which was happy to cut a deal, especially since it was arguably 2876 02:44:27,260 --> 02:44:31,460 more interested in the talent than the technology. Character, 2877 02:44:31,460 --> 02:44:34,820 AI, co founder Noam shazier was an author of a groundbreaking 2878 02:44:34,820 --> 02:44:38,600 paper that laid the foundation for today's age of AI. It would 2879 02:44:38,600 --> 02:44:41,380 bring shazier back to Google, along with a fifth of his 2880 02:44:41,380 --> 02:44:45,040 employees in licensed characters technology without having to 2881 02:44:45,040 --> 02:44:48,280 outright buy the startup in an acquisition. It's a playbook 2882 02:44:48,280 --> 02:44:51,220 that skirts the regulatory crackdown on big tech dominance 2883 02:44:51,280 --> 02:44:54,520 provides an exit for AI startups struggling to make money, and 2884 02:44:54,520 --> 02:44:58,480 allows mega caps to pick up the talent needed in the AI arms 2885 02:44:58,480 --> 02:44:58,900 race. 2886 02:44:59,260 --> 02:45:05,400 There's a. Very small number of researchers, AI practitioners 2887 02:45:05,400 --> 02:45:08,820 that operate at the frontier of the technology. There's probably 2888 02:45:08,820 --> 02:45:12,780 only 1000s right now. And the hyperscalers, the mega caps, 2889 02:45:12,780 --> 02:45:16,380 want that talent, and they're looking to get it any way they 2890 02:45:16,380 --> 02:45:16,740 can. 2891 02:45:17,880 --> 02:45:20,540 Adam Curry: How about it? We just value ourselves at a 2892 02:45:20,540 --> 02:45:24,980 billion dollars, and they, they buy us because we can't make any 2893 02:45:24,980 --> 02:45:25,100 of 2894 02:45:25,100 --> 02:45:28,700 John C Dvorak: that though they just stole the talent. Well, 2895 02:45:28,700 --> 02:45:33,020 yeah, but, but this is what Hold on a second. This is the worst 2896 02:45:33,140 --> 02:45:36,020 aspect of Silicon Valley. This is why everyone keeps everything 2897 02:45:36,020 --> 02:45:39,740 a secret. You have a bunch of talented guys running this 2898 02:45:39,740 --> 02:45:43,360 company, and they have investors of 160 or whatever that number 2899 02:45:43,360 --> 02:45:49,000 was, million dollars, of people who put angels and Sequoia, who 2900 02:45:49,000 --> 02:45:52,120 knows who was involved. And then, instead of them getting 2901 02:45:52,120 --> 02:45:55,480 their payback, which they expect, they have their whole 2902 02:45:55,600 --> 02:45:59,080 team ripped out from under them and taken to Google because they 2903 02:45:59,200 --> 02:46:03,000 who was too cheap to buy out the company, which was valued at a 2904 02:46:03,000 --> 02:46:05,880 billion dollars, which is like falling off a log for Google. 2905 02:46:05,880 --> 02:46:09,120 They could, they could afford a billion dollars in in a drop of 2906 02:46:09,120 --> 02:46:13,500 a hat. This is bull crap. I'm very upset by this. 2907 02:46:13,920 --> 02:46:16,200 Adam Curry: Well, you know, it's because of regulatory oversight 2908 02:46:16,200 --> 02:46:17,160 that they're doing that. 2909 02:46:18,960 --> 02:46:22,940 John C Dvorak: Oh, this is better, yes, screwing the 2910 02:46:22,940 --> 02:46:24,680 investors to that extreme. 2911 02:46:25,820 --> 02:46:28,520 Adam Curry: The investors get the licensing fee, don't you see 2912 02:46:28,520 --> 02:46:29,480 it not 2913 02:46:29,480 --> 02:46:31,040 John C Dvorak: getting anything, is what they're getting. 2914 02:46:33,380 --> 02:46:36,740 Adam Curry: It's the end of AI John, that's what it is. They're 2915 02:46:36,740 --> 02:46:39,560 just bringing in more people to say we've got the best people. 2916 02:46:41,660 --> 02:46:45,340 John C Dvorak: Well, Google's is notorious for doing a crappy job 2917 02:46:45,340 --> 02:46:49,840 of anything other than search Yes and also selling data. Yes, 2918 02:46:49,960 --> 02:46:52,120 everything else is a joke. Yes, 2919 02:46:53,200 --> 02:46:56,080 Adam Curry: I'm so there's that. I didn't mean to upset you. 2920 02:46:57,340 --> 02:46:59,200 John C Dvorak: I'm just, I'm upset on behalf of the 2921 02:46:59,200 --> 02:47:00,160 investors. 2922 02:47:01,000 --> 02:47:04,500 Adam Curry: What do you want? An LP at Kleiner Perkins, 2923 02:47:05,700 --> 02:47:08,820 John C Dvorak: I wish. But no, I don't wish. I'd be broke. 2924 02:47:11,460 --> 02:47:14,280 Adam Curry: All right, one quick trip to Germany. The far right 2925 02:47:14,280 --> 02:47:18,240 is a big problem. If you think that it's just America that has 2926 02:47:18,660 --> 02:47:21,140 Maga, they've got Maga 2927 02:47:24,020 --> 02:47:27,440 Unknown: as the sun sets over Dresden, anger among the far 2928 02:47:27,440 --> 02:47:30,800 right rises far rise before voters take to the 2929 02:47:30,800 --> 02:47:32,960 Adam Curry: polls. Boy, they sound really angry. Did you hear 2930 02:47:32,960 --> 02:47:36,500 that clapping? That was very angry clapping upcoming regional 2931 02:47:36,500 --> 02:47:40,120 Unknown: elections. These people believe they represent the 2932 02:47:40,120 --> 02:47:43,120 majority view in the east of Germany, arguing 2933 02:47:43,120 --> 02:47:46,360 multiculturalism is threatening their way of life. 2934 02:47:47,800 --> 02:47:51,700 We want change to Germany, because here in Germany, so much 2935 02:47:51,700 --> 02:47:55,420 refugees, and from this, from the refugees, is coming so much 2936 02:47:55,420 --> 02:47:58,720 crimes, murdered and soling the 2937 02:47:58,720 --> 02:48:03,180 AfD has tapped into high anti immigration sentiment, a view 2938 02:48:03,180 --> 02:48:07,020 that is likely to translate into votes. These posters are 2939 02:48:07,020 --> 02:48:10,500 plastered on almost every lamppost. They read, sun, 2940 02:48:10,560 --> 02:48:15,480 Summer, remigration, another homeland, not multiculturalism. 2941 02:48:16,080 --> 02:48:19,560 This local AFD candidate blames a lack of border control for 2942 02:48:19,560 --> 02:48:21,320 last week's fatal knife attack. 2943 02:48:21,740 --> 02:48:23,600 You know what has happened in Seoul England 2944 02:48:24,260 --> 02:48:26,840 that, of course, makes people angry. 2945 02:48:28,580 --> 02:48:31,400 There are rapes that doesn't 2946 02:48:32,900 --> 02:48:34,640 every day, the 2947 02:48:34,700 --> 02:48:39,440 AfD are expected to win big, a potent signal just over a year 2948 02:48:39,440 --> 02:48:43,180 before the next national election, party leaders say they 2949 02:48:43,180 --> 02:48:45,040 must take back control. 2950 02:48:45,640 --> 02:48:49,180 Join us in making sure that the whole of Germany brings a sigh 2951 02:48:49,180 --> 02:48:53,080 relief on September 1, thank you for your support for our 2952 02:48:53,080 --> 02:48:55,780 homeland, for Germany, for Saxony. 2953 02:48:56,680 --> 02:48:58,480 Adam Curry: So there you go. They 2954 02:48:58,480 --> 02:49:01,020 John C Dvorak: said homeland, as opposed to fatherland 2955 02:49:01,080 --> 02:49:01,980 hinterland, 2956 02:49:02,400 --> 02:49:05,580 Adam Curry: and this is exactly what happened in France. The far 2957 02:49:05,580 --> 02:49:09,600 right came out in droves. Everyone's voting, and then the 2958 02:49:09,600 --> 02:49:13,080 the left went, Oh, well, we're all gonna we're all gonna just 2959 02:49:13,080 --> 02:49:15,480 say no, and we're all gonna get together. And they've been 2960 02:49:15,480 --> 02:49:18,840 without a, literally, without a government, without a prime 2961 02:49:18,900 --> 02:49:22,640 president or prime minister, ever, yeah, ever since the 2962 02:49:22,640 --> 02:49:27,920 election six weeks ago and and it's still no sign of 2963 02:49:27,920 --> 02:49:30,800 breakthrough. More than six weeks after snap legislative 2964 02:49:30,800 --> 02:49:35,420 elections, France still has no proper government. Macron began 2965 02:49:35,420 --> 02:49:38,780 a new round of political negotiations on Wednesday aimed 2966 02:49:38,780 --> 02:49:41,800 at finding a viable Prime Minister amid a hung parliament, 2967 02:49:42,160 --> 02:49:44,980 in a break with tradition, Macron is refusing to appoint a 2968 02:49:44,980 --> 02:49:48,340 prime minister from the winningest party in July's vote, 2969 02:49:48,640 --> 02:49:51,760 the left wing, new Popular Front Alliance came in first place, 2970 02:49:51,760 --> 02:49:55,480 but without an actual majority, the President is instead trying 2971 02:49:55,480 --> 02:49:58,480 to cobble together a new coalition with conservatives, 2972 02:49:58,480 --> 02:50:02,400 but striking out there as. Well, he's sent to head to Serbia for 2973 02:50:02,400 --> 02:50:05,460 a two day visit on Thursday, but he's squeezing in some meetings 2974 02:50:05,460 --> 02:50:08,400 before he leaves, so they're just not doing governments 2975 02:50:08,400 --> 02:50:08,940 anymore. 2976 02:50:11,100 --> 02:50:13,980 John C Dvorak: You know, the administrative state runs these 2977 02:50:13,980 --> 02:50:17,280 countries, including ours, ours. You don't need a government. 2978 02:50:17,280 --> 02:50:18,660 It's just a facade. 2979 02:50:22,800 --> 02:50:25,340 Unknown: But well, there you go. Prove 2980 02:50:25,340 --> 02:50:26,360 John C Dvorak: me wrong. No, 2981 02:50:26,360 --> 02:50:30,260 Adam Curry: I can't prove you wrong. You have a lot of clips 2982 02:50:30,260 --> 02:50:32,540 left over, so if you have anything you'd like to share 2983 02:50:32,540 --> 02:50:33,260 with the group, 2984 02:50:33,320 --> 02:50:35,240 John C Dvorak: well, let's get this, some of these old clips 2985 02:50:35,240 --> 02:50:39,680 out of the way. What's this podcast clip? Oh, yes, this is 2986 02:50:39,680 --> 02:50:42,400 the podcast. This is all of a sudden, we've got all kinds of 2987 02:50:42,400 --> 02:50:46,360 issues because serial the podcast actually did some 2988 02:50:46,360 --> 02:50:49,300 damage. Don't know if it's good or bad, but play the clip. 2989 02:50:49,420 --> 02:50:50,140 Maryland's 2990 02:50:50,140 --> 02:50:53,320 Unknown: Supreme court has ordered a redo of the hearing 2991 02:50:53,320 --> 02:50:56,680 that freed Adnan Syed over concerns about the rights of the 2992 02:50:56,680 --> 02:51:00,360 victim's family. It's the latest twist and illegal drama that was 2993 02:51:00,360 --> 02:51:03,720 the focus of the Serial podcast, which propelled the case to 2994 02:51:03,720 --> 02:51:07,620 national attention. Syed was convicted more than two decades 2995 02:51:07,620 --> 02:51:11,160 ago for killing his high school ex girlfriend. He was freed in 2996 02:51:11,160 --> 02:51:16,200 2022 only to have his conviction reinstated a year later, one of 2997 02:51:16,200 --> 02:51:19,500 the dissenting judges in today's ruling did not mince words, 2998 02:51:19,500 --> 02:51:23,300 writing that the case is, quote, a procedural zombie. It has been 2999 02:51:23,300 --> 02:51:27,560 reanimated despite its expiration. Syed will remain 3000 02:51:27,560 --> 02:51:30,560 free as a lower court considers whether to throw out his 3001 02:51:30,560 --> 02:51:31,280 conviction. 3002 02:51:32,840 --> 02:51:38,300 Adam Curry: Man, they missed the best part. So the Serial 3003 02:51:38,300 --> 02:51:43,120 podcast, which launched in 2014 and became a sensation around 3004 02:51:43,180 --> 02:51:49,060 2016 Yes, reinvigorated podcasting. There's no doubt 3005 02:51:49,060 --> 02:51:51,580 about it, people would just love that it came at the moment. 3006 02:51:51,640 --> 02:51:57,520 Everybody was binge watching Breaking Bad five seasons in a 3007 02:51:57,520 --> 02:52:01,020 weekend and showing up to work on Monday with dark circles 3008 02:52:01,020 --> 02:52:07,440 under their eyes and and did you know that season four of serial 3009 02:52:07,440 --> 02:52:12,120 launched, came and went just in the past, I haven't followed it 3010 02:52:12,120 --> 02:52:16,920 at all. Nobody. In fact, the producer, Sarah Koenig, she 3011 02:52:16,920 --> 02:52:23,240 says, you know, it was complete dud. No made no money, no one 3012 02:52:23,240 --> 02:52:27,320 cared. No one listened. I mean, no, obviously somebody listened. 3013 02:52:27,920 --> 02:52:32,780 And so now here you have a a great tee up for wherever this 3014 02:52:32,780 --> 02:52:37,700 report came from to say, serial Season Four is PBS. Serial 3015 02:52:37,700 --> 02:52:40,100 Season Four is currently available wherever you get your 3016 02:52:40,100 --> 02:52:44,320 podcasts, but they didn't even get that. So I think it's very 3017 02:52:44,320 --> 02:52:47,440 sad that cereal didn't get, didn't get a plug of that 3018 02:52:47,440 --> 02:52:50,860 nature. And be okay, well, this is the old cereal, but the new 3019 02:52:50,860 --> 02:52:54,100 cereal, no, nothing. Crickets fail. 3020 02:52:56,560 --> 02:52:59,740 John C Dvorak: I don't know what to make of it. Yeah. Well, maybe 3021 02:52:59,740 --> 02:53:03,060 it's hard to do that kind of podcast and continually do it. 3022 02:53:03,060 --> 02:53:06,300 It reminds me of the thing was an HBO show called the detective 3023 02:53:06,300 --> 02:53:10,380 or something. It was with for they had a season of it. It was 3024 02:53:10,380 --> 02:53:12,720 all specials, like a, like a mini series. Are 3025 02:53:12,720 --> 02:53:14,880 Adam Curry: you talking about true true detective. True 3026 02:53:14,880 --> 02:53:17,520 Detective? Yeah. My butt, my buddy, wrote and produced and 3027 02:53:17,520 --> 02:53:23,000 directed that the first season, all three seasons. Well, the 3028 02:53:23,000 --> 02:53:27,380 first season was a killer with Woody Harrelson, yeah, yeah. And 3029 02:53:27,380 --> 02:53:30,740 then it dropped off. And now, now what That's Nick pizzlato, 3030 02:53:30,980 --> 02:53:33,140 he lived, he he moved. Uh, yeah. Well, 3031 02:53:33,140 --> 02:53:35,060 John C Dvorak: I admire the fact that you know the guy. But what 3032 02:53:35,060 --> 02:53:40,400 happened, he cleaned up was missing from the second and 3033 02:53:40,400 --> 02:53:40,960 third season. 3034 02:53:40,960 --> 02:53:44,320 Adam Curry: What happened is he cleaned up on season three. 3035 02:53:44,740 --> 02:53:50,740 Like, massive, massive payout. Yeah, it's good for him. Yeah, 3036 02:53:50,860 --> 02:53:53,980 that's yeah, of course. But that isn't that with everything. I 3037 02:53:53,980 --> 02:53:57,640 mean, have you seen, have you gone to see the Wolverine and 3038 02:53:57,640 --> 02:54:01,060 Deadpool yet? I mean, what did they do? $11 million in the 3039 02:54:01,060 --> 02:54:04,620 opening weekend. People are sick of these things. They're sick of 3040 02:54:04,620 --> 02:54:06,960 the repeats. They're sick of the sequels. 3041 02:54:07,680 --> 02:54:10,260 John C Dvorak: They want what happened to serial Yeah, they 3042 02:54:10,260 --> 02:54:13,020 Adam Curry: want original programming twice a week, 3043 02:54:13,980 --> 02:54:16,500 John C Dvorak: couple hours worth on Thursday and Sunday. 3044 02:54:16,500 --> 02:54:17,220 It's called the no 3045 02:54:17,220 --> 02:54:19,680 Adam Curry: agenda show. Everybody I'm gonna show my 3046 02:54:19,680 --> 02:54:22,580 Unknown: salute by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the 3047 02:54:22,580 --> 02:54:25,160 people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fabulous. 3048 02:54:32,180 --> 02:54:33,980 Adam Curry: Yeah, that's right. This is where we thank people 3049 02:54:33,980 --> 02:54:38,120 who came in $50 and above or above. And of course, we once 3050 02:54:38,120 --> 02:54:41,140 again want to thank everybody who was a sustaining donor. We 3051 02:54:41,140 --> 02:54:45,220 will be bringing a night and a dame on stage today here at the 3052 02:54:45,220 --> 02:54:48,700 round table, who have just been supporting on sustaining 3053 02:54:48,700 --> 02:54:51,580 donations on a layaway plan for as long as they wanted to do it. 3054 02:54:52,600 --> 02:54:55,660 And there's some birthday things. And do you want me to 3055 02:54:55,660 --> 02:54:57,220 read the book? I'm gonna 3056 02:54:57,460 --> 02:55:00,300 John C Dvorak: I'm gonna throw it to you. Toss it to me. When 3057 02:55:00,300 --> 02:55:06,660 we get to the 6388 and down to the 60s, all for you. Yes, I'm 3058 02:55:06,660 --> 02:55:10,020 Adam Curry: very excited. I love people saying happy birthday. I 3059 02:55:10,020 --> 02:55:10,980 can't get enough of it. 3060 02:55:12,840 --> 02:55:19,320 John C Dvorak: Read it. I got a chuckle. Yeah, don't pee 3061 02:55:19,320 --> 02:55:21,320 yourself when you're doing this. Read, sorry, I already 3062 02:55:21,320 --> 02:55:24,560 Harrington is sparks. Nevada starts to solve it 160 bucks. 3063 02:55:24,560 --> 02:55:29,120 She does say, Happy Birthday Adam. And she's following at 160 3064 02:55:29,480 --> 02:55:34,340 bucks. ITM ITM anonymous in a Bucharest, oh, Bucharest. In 3065 02:55:34,400 --> 02:55:40,780 Bucharest, Romania, nice 105. 35 but she's actually in South 3066 02:55:40,780 --> 02:55:44,380 Africa. Oh, no, she he's the anonymous South African here 3067 02:55:44,440 --> 02:55:47,920 temporarily. He also sent an emergency note in this morning 3068 02:55:48,340 --> 02:55:53,080 saying that he wants to call out the other anonymous South 3069 02:55:53,080 --> 02:55:57,700 African. He wants to call him out as a douchebag. Now, we 3070 02:55:57,700 --> 02:56:00,420 don't know who these people are. No but there, there are people. 3071 02:56:00,420 --> 02:56:05,640 Leroy. Leroy Pacheco in Santa Fe, New Mexico, $100 and he 3072 02:56:05,640 --> 02:56:08,940 says, happy birthdays. John Adam, well, thank you, sir 3073 02:56:08,940 --> 02:56:14,400 Spencer in Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada, $100 Sir Brian 3074 02:56:14,400 --> 02:56:19,500 Tobias and in Gardner, Kansas, 9063, there's another birthday 3075 02:56:19,500 --> 02:56:22,520 call out. So you're getting birthdays all over, beautiful. 3076 02:56:22,520 --> 02:56:27,200 Thank you. Kevin McLaughlin, lover of or he's the Archduke of 3077 02:56:27,200 --> 02:56:30,080 lunar lover. American boobs comes in with his boob donation 3078 02:56:30,080 --> 02:56:34,880 from Concord, North Carolina, 808. And does not wish you a 3079 02:56:34,880 --> 02:56:39,080 happy birthday. Oh. Manuel Medeiros in Tracy, California, 3080 02:56:39,380 --> 02:56:44,560 75 bucks for some shenanigans. Sean Simmons in Stanford, 3081 02:56:44,560 --> 02:56:53,080 Virginia, 6969 and now we began with 69 we begin with the I just 3082 02:56:53,080 --> 02:56:55,840 want to bring that right with Mark Hall, your buddy, and 3083 02:56:55,840 --> 02:56:59,740 starts us off in there. You've got it, and you can read and 3084 02:56:59,740 --> 02:57:01,860 thank these people for thanking you. That's right. 3085 02:57:01,860 --> 02:57:06,000 Adam Curry: I'll just read the name and and location and any 3086 02:57:06,000 --> 02:57:10,560 note and know that these are all basically 60s. For some reason, 3087 02:57:10,560 --> 02:57:14,340 Sir Mark Hall paid more for the fees. He says, Happy 60s. Adam, 3088 02:57:14,340 --> 02:57:18,000 welcome to the sexy 60s. Sean Douglas Glen, you 3089 02:57:18,000 --> 02:57:21,560 John C Dvorak: wait stop. Mark Hall mentions that you're 11 3090 02:57:21,560 --> 02:57:24,320 years older than he is. No, that's right, you should know 3091 02:57:24,320 --> 02:57:24,740 that. That's 3092 02:57:24,740 --> 02:57:28,400 Adam Curry: Sean Douglas the next line. Oh, okay, but thanks. 3093 02:57:28,400 --> 02:57:32,420 Not just 11 years, but 11 years and one day older than him. $60 3094 02:57:32,660 --> 02:57:36,200 to celebrate your birthday, and 49 for him, okay? And he also 3095 02:57:36,200 --> 02:57:38,720 took care of the PayPal fees. God bless. Thank you. Sean 3096 02:57:39,140 --> 02:57:43,000 Alexander stalinski stavinsky, Denver, Colorado. Happy 3097 02:57:43,000 --> 02:57:49,540 birthday. Adam Bratt, summer is over. Arno from am from heart to 3098 02:57:49,840 --> 02:57:52,900 Feder. John de Santi Belford, New Jersey, happy birthday. 3099 02:57:52,900 --> 02:57:56,680 Adam, you're old. Thanks. That makes me feel good. Do four 3100 02:57:56,680 --> 02:58:00,780 Creative Services? Elkhart, Indiana, happy six. Oh. Adam, 3101 02:58:00,960 --> 02:58:04,320 Dame slamy Bastrop, Texas, from Dame slay me. Happy birthday. 3102 02:58:04,320 --> 02:58:08,580 Podfather, PayPal is being dumb, so this is $60 plus fees. Thank 3103 02:58:08,580 --> 02:58:12,120 you for your courage. Anonymous. Fairfield, Ohio, happy birthday. 3104 02:58:12,120 --> 02:58:16,200 Adam, I prefer anonymous. Anonymity, done. Sarah Gardner, 3105 02:58:16,200 --> 02:58:18,900 happy birthday. Adam. Danny Hayes, God bless you. Adam, 3106 02:58:18,900 --> 02:58:23,360 numbers 624, and 226, I shall check. Oh, I know what that is. 3107 02:58:23,360 --> 02:58:27,680 That's the God Shola. Shyness. Face upon you. I think. Robert 3108 02:58:27,680 --> 02:58:32,420 Rowell, congrats on not dying. Ah, so uplifting. Thank you. 3109 02:58:32,720 --> 02:58:36,800 Robert Stokes, happy birthday. Adam servant, happy 60 is not 3110 02:58:36,800 --> 02:58:39,740 bad. I've survived six years of it. Yeah, you're older than me. 3111 02:58:39,740 --> 02:58:43,780 Brother. Eric Adler, look to fail to see him, but you pod 3112 02:58:43,780 --> 02:58:48,700 father, sure. Eric Baronet of the fat point, gadget freak 10. 3113 02:58:48,700 --> 02:58:52,060 Happy birthday. Adam surveilled. Happy birthday. Adam surveilled. 3114 02:58:52,060 --> 02:58:56,500 Viconn of FEMA Region number four. Teresa Gannon, no note, 3115 02:58:56,500 --> 02:59:01,020 6229 so that's with the fees, I guess. Marianne Schmidt, happy 3116 02:59:01,020 --> 02:59:04,860 birthday. Adam. 60 plus fees party on Dame Christina pearl. 3117 02:59:04,980 --> 02:59:07,380 She was at the birthday party, the surprise party. Happy 3118 02:59:07,380 --> 02:59:09,720 birthday, Adam, Dame Christina Pearl, and of course, Sir 3119 02:59:09,720 --> 02:59:12,540 Robert, Charles, both of them were there. You know, she gave 3120 02:59:12,540 --> 02:59:18,240 me a special Southwest Airlines luggage tag that you can only 3121 02:59:18,240 --> 02:59:20,900 have if you're a crew member. And apparently it gets you 3122 02:59:20,900 --> 02:59:23,060 benefits when you're walking around the airport with it, 3123 02:59:23,900 --> 02:59:28,280 which is cool, praise God, says. Christopher Altman, with the $60 3124 02:59:28,760 --> 02:59:31,760 donation plus fee, sir, hold my beer. Happy birthday, Adam. Hold 3125 02:59:31,760 --> 02:59:35,960 my beer. Jennifer rain, Oh, wow. Happy 60s birthday. Adam. Black 3126 02:59:35,960 --> 02:59:38,720 Knight, sir. Last row. Happy Birthday to Adam from Black 3127 02:59:38,720 --> 02:59:41,620 Knight, sir, last row and the Laster Farmstead, official. No 3128 02:59:41,620 --> 02:59:45,280 agenda. Egg smugglers, yes, bring some by. I like those blue 3129 02:59:45,280 --> 02:59:48,340 and green eggs you got. Randy Balzer says, Happy Birthday, 3130 02:59:48,340 --> 02:59:51,100 sharing my beer money with you. Happy with you. Adam, Happy 3131 02:59:51,100 --> 02:59:55,180 Happy Birthday. From Susan Erickson, happy 60th curry, sir, 3132 02:59:55,180 --> 02:59:59,200 dude and chick from Bastrop Texas. Sharon Searle, because 3133 02:59:59,200 --> 03:00:02,040 time itself was. Like a spiral. Something special happens on 3134 03:00:02,040 --> 03:00:04,560 your birthday each year. The same energy that God invested in 3135 03:00:04,560 --> 03:00:07,740 you at birth is present once again. Menache, Mendel 3136 03:00:07,740 --> 03:00:13,560 Schneerson, Beth Zen, barrister, all right. Lisa Pyles with a 3137 03:00:13,560 --> 03:00:15,780 birthday donation. Randy O'Rourke with a happy one for 3138 03:00:15,780 --> 03:00:20,160 me. Thank you, Dame Janet and Sir Island, dog go dogs with a 3139 03:00:20,160 --> 03:00:24,200 birthday donation. Lee Doolin from the UK, happy birthday, 3140 03:00:24,200 --> 03:00:26,780 Adam, congrats on the day to say zero. Here's to you guys never 3141 03:00:26,780 --> 03:00:29,600 finding an exit strategy. My Friday and Monday mornings would 3142 03:00:29,600 --> 03:00:32,420 never be the same. UK listener, of course, that's why Baron OG 3143 03:00:32,420 --> 03:00:36,080 podcaster and the lovely lady Leanne i That must be Steve 3144 03:00:36,080 --> 03:00:39,080 Webb, happy 60th, Adam, may this be your best year ever. My 3145 03:00:39,080 --> 03:00:47,380 brother Annika, Anka Schneider. Schneider. Anka anchor. She's 3146 03:00:47,380 --> 03:00:51,640 from Quebec, Quebec, Verdun, Quebec. ITM John and happy 3147 03:00:51,640 --> 03:00:54,100 birthday, Adam. PS, please deduce me. 3148 03:00:55,780 --> 03:00:57,580 Unknown: You've been deduced. 3149 03:00:57,880 --> 03:01:02,340 Adam Curry: And she would like an additional baby karma later 3150 03:01:02,340 --> 03:01:06,840 on, which I'm happy to divulge after we're done with all these 3151 03:01:06,840 --> 03:01:13,200 at the end. Brian Mickey Prague, Oklahoma, 6033 Simon Reid 3152 03:01:13,200 --> 03:01:16,320 Scarsdale, New York. Happy birthday. No jingles, no karma. 3153 03:01:16,320 --> 03:01:20,540 Happy birthday. Podfather says Sir Chris of sexy. William 3154 03:01:20,540 --> 03:01:25,940 Wellborn in Georgia, 6033, happy birthday. Adams are becoming 3155 03:01:25,940 --> 03:01:29,180 heroic. May small boobs surround you and protect you. Oh, thank 3156 03:01:29,180 --> 03:01:33,620 you. Please credit this to fair volt T, happy birthday, Adam C, 3157 03:01:33,620 --> 03:01:36,320 hope you have a wonderful day. Thank you and JCD for your 3158 03:01:36,320 --> 03:01:42,220 everlasting courage. Adam's birthday, from Daniella Pompeo 3159 03:01:42,580 --> 03:01:46,720 and Abby to the birthday list. Says, Brent Dombrowski, you got 3160 03:01:46,720 --> 03:01:51,880 it along with me, I guess, the same birthday. Sir Scotland de 3161 03:01:51,880 --> 03:01:56,560 brave, long Mayor lumeric, he says, and all the Scottish 3162 03:01:56,560 --> 03:02:01,020 lairds and ladies. Then a couple more 60s here from Saras, from 3163 03:02:01,620 --> 03:02:06,960 Stefan Anders, Sarah steinlin, Douglas Enstrom, Baron Victor, 3164 03:02:07,020 --> 03:02:12,240 who is also 60. He says Baron sir phenom. Jason Babcock, 3165 03:02:12,240 --> 03:02:17,460 Robert Ballard, happy 60th uncle Adam says sir Stewart, looking 3166 03:02:17,460 --> 03:02:20,960 forward to celebrating my 60s in a few months as well. He's the 3167 03:02:20,960 --> 03:02:24,440 Angry accountant from the UK. Happy birthday. Adam. Long live 3168 03:02:24,440 --> 03:02:28,400 the no agenda show. John Le Clerc, Oh sir. Quijibu from 3169 03:02:28,400 --> 03:02:32,720 Luxembourg. Patrick cannon with the $60 Rita Harrington, happy 3170 03:02:32,720 --> 03:02:37,880 birthday, Adam, can I get a deduction you've been deduced? 3171 03:02:38,780 --> 03:02:43,900 The deducing is for Paul racco. Rochelle Rocco, he's a knight, 3172 03:02:43,900 --> 03:02:46,060 but that's due to others donating on my behalf. 3173 03:02:46,060 --> 03:02:51,640 Shamefully, his first donation. And then we're at 5856 so I'm 3174 03:02:51,640 --> 03:02:53,560 gonna toss it to you. Bob. 3175 03:02:54,760 --> 03:02:57,880 John C Dvorak: Matthew Markel starts us off at Broomall, 3176 03:02:57,940 --> 03:03:03,660 Pennsylvania, 5856 he calls the soy boys, by the way, no nice. 3177 03:03:03,840 --> 03:03:08,100 Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona. 58 Mark Hardwick in 3178 03:03:08,100 --> 03:03:15,780 Alito, Texas. 5333 Stefan truckles In Sust Deutschland, 3179 03:03:15,780 --> 03:03:22,220 5272 we had a lot of Germans. I like that. Joseph Morocco in 3180 03:03:22,220 --> 03:03:28,940 Florida. 5225 David Deloria in Santa, Clarita, California, 5060 3181 03:03:32,180 --> 03:03:37,520 calls it an ugly Zoe Lofgren donation, sir Lady Boy in Mount 3182 03:03:37,520 --> 03:03:44,320 Laurel, New Jersey. 5060 Brandon. Locklear and sugar, 3183 03:03:44,560 --> 03:03:51,460 Bill Georgia. 50, Scott McCarty in Lodi, California. Tony Lang, 3184 03:03:51,520 --> 03:03:54,940 these are 50s. These are all 50s. Tony Lang and Castle Pines, 3185 03:03:54,940 --> 03:03:59,080 uh, Colorado. 50, Jordan, Tierney and oral, oral, South 3186 03:03:59,080 --> 03:04:04,200 Dakota, as opposed to the other part of South Dakota, Jordan, 3187 03:04:04,260 --> 03:04:11,040 hoyno in Salem, Oregon, Leslie Walker in Roseburg, Oregon. Lot 3188 03:04:11,040 --> 03:04:15,840 of Oregonians here, yeah. Says, Love you guys. And last on our 3189 03:04:15,840 --> 03:04:21,000 list here is Aichi Kitagawa in San Francisco, California. I 3190 03:04:21,000 --> 03:04:24,260 want to thank these folks, all of them, for wishing Adam and 3191 03:04:24,260 --> 03:04:28,580 happy birthday, and also for supporting show, 1516, 3192 03:04:29,600 --> 03:04:32,240 Adam Curry: 91 you want 91 yes. Appreciate it. Thank you, 3193 03:04:32,240 --> 03:04:35,780 everybody under 50, as we mentioned previously, karma of 3194 03:04:35,780 --> 03:04:38,540 the baby making variety, as requested, coming your way right 3195 03:04:38,540 --> 03:04:38,900 now. 3196 03:04:38,960 --> 03:04:40,060 Unknown: You've got, oh, ah, 3197 03:04:44,080 --> 03:04:47,140 Adam Curry: karma, support the show. Never an exit strategy. No 3198 03:04:47,140 --> 03:04:48,160 agenda, donations.com 3199 03:04:56,380 --> 03:04:59,800 shortlist today, outside of myself, of course, Sophie wishes 3200 03:04:59,800 --> 03:05:04,500 her. Daughter, Kayla, happy one. She turns 19 today. Baron bird 3201 03:05:04,500 --> 03:05:07,740 dog wishes his keeper and a very happy birthday. And Brent 3202 03:05:07,740 --> 03:05:10,860 Dombrowski, who apparently celebrates on the same day as I 3203 03:05:10,860 --> 03:05:13,620 do, which will be on Tuesday, September 3, happy birthday. 3204 03:05:13,620 --> 03:05:16,140 Everybody from the Stafford Management here at the best 3205 03:05:16,140 --> 03:05:22,820 podcast in the universe. We have a dame and we have a knight, 3206 03:05:22,820 --> 03:05:28,400 both of them layaways. So I'll start with the dame first. So 3207 03:05:28,400 --> 03:05:36,380 this is what is her name? Oh, interesting. Okay. This is for 3208 03:05:36,380 --> 03:05:39,080 Anne John and Adam. Thank you for your outstanding work. My 3209 03:05:39,080 --> 03:05:41,620 wife and I have been longtime listeners and sustaining donors 3210 03:05:41,620 --> 03:05:45,640 Since 2016 please add my keeper of 20 years and to the birthday 3211 03:05:45,640 --> 03:05:48,940 list. Did that for Sunday show. I'd also like to have her damed. 3212 03:05:49,180 --> 03:05:52,180 I'm not sure what she wants her Dame name to be, but with her 3213 03:05:52,240 --> 03:05:55,960 love of quitting and bee quilting and beekeeping, let's 3214 03:05:55,960 --> 03:06:00,600 try Dame Annie the quilting bee. Please add bacon wrapped moose 3215 03:06:00,600 --> 03:06:03,960 roast on the barbecue and gin and tonic to the round table. 3216 03:06:04,140 --> 03:06:08,340 Can I get a Sharpton and a don't Raff Well, of course you can 3217 03:06:08,340 --> 03:06:11,400 keep up the good work. And remember, no agenda saves lives. 3218 03:06:11,400 --> 03:06:11,760 Don't 3219 03:06:11,760 --> 03:06:15,780 Unknown: laugh. Why you are laughing? Shut up. 3220 03:06:20,520 --> 03:06:21,600 Espict, 3221 03:06:21,960 --> 03:06:25,820 Adam Curry: then we have our layaway Knight. This is Mike 3222 03:06:25,820 --> 03:06:33,260 hoken hokan and Ho Ho Ho I think hoken Adel the in the morning. 3223 03:06:33,260 --> 03:06:35,900 Gens, thank you for providing us with the minty fresh media 3224 03:06:35,900 --> 03:06:38,600 deconstruction to cleanse ourselves from the pre processed 3225 03:06:38,600 --> 03:06:41,680 junk that is the M 5m I especially want to wish a happy 3226 03:06:41,680 --> 03:06:44,380 birthday to Adam as he hits the big six. Oh, may his exit 3227 03:06:44,380 --> 03:06:48,700 strategy be quick and painless. Yes, spitting in the mic. Shout 3228 03:06:48,700 --> 03:06:51,340 out to my lovely wife and kids. They are my guiding light. I 3229 03:06:51,340 --> 03:06:53,680 would like to be known as Sir hokey of the second floor 3230 03:06:53,680 --> 03:06:55,180 basement. Please deduce 3231 03:06:57,040 --> 03:06:58,780 Unknown: you've been deduced. 3232 03:07:00,460 --> 03:07:03,300 Adam Curry: And talk about your random, random number theory. 3233 03:07:03,720 --> 03:07:06,720 Hook me up with a tech grouch jingle if you have one lying 3234 03:07:06,720 --> 03:07:12,480 around. Uh, that's that's a coincidence I happen to because 3235 03:07:12,480 --> 03:07:15,240 we played it earlier, sir. Hokey of the second floor basement. 3236 03:07:15,240 --> 03:07:16,920 Thanks. He says, Mike, well, here it is. 3237 03:07:19,080 --> 03:07:21,560 Unknown: Only good phone's a landline, and the phone should 3238 03:07:21,560 --> 03:07:23,060 be made out of big light. 3239 03:07:24,200 --> 03:07:29,660 Adam Curry: Wow, that's interesting. A classic. Well, we 3240 03:07:29,660 --> 03:07:32,300 already played the classic. All right, let's bring them both up 3241 03:07:32,300 --> 03:07:37,340 on the table, John, if you don't mind, very nice play, very good. 3242 03:07:37,760 --> 03:07:42,340 All right, please, up to the podium here, Anne, Anne, Anna 3243 03:07:42,340 --> 03:07:46,420 and Mike coconado, I'm glad you have a night named be a lot 3244 03:07:46,420 --> 03:07:50,440 easier for me. Both of you have succeeded in achieving night and 3245 03:07:50,440 --> 03:07:53,260 Dame status thanks to your support of the no agenda show 3246 03:07:53,260 --> 03:07:56,680 with your layaways. I'm very proud to pronounce the KB as 3247 03:07:56,680 --> 03:08:00,900 Dame Annie the quilting bee and Sir hokey of the second floor 3248 03:08:00,960 --> 03:08:04,260 basement for you. We've got hookers and blow, rent poison, 3249 03:08:04,260 --> 03:08:08,040 Chardonnay, bacon wrapped moose roast on the barbecue and a gin 3250 03:08:08,040 --> 03:08:11,220 and tonic along with the rubenes, aluminum rose a we've 3251 03:08:11,220 --> 03:08:14,400 got the geishas and sake. We've got vodka, Manila, bongots and 3252 03:08:14,400 --> 03:08:17,280 bourbon sparkling cider, nescorch, ginger ale and 3253 03:08:17,280 --> 03:08:20,660 gerbils, breast milk and pablum. Of course, that's raw milk. And 3254 03:08:20,900 --> 03:08:23,960 as always, the mutton and the mead go to no agenda rings.com 3255 03:08:24,740 --> 03:08:27,860 and there you can see the beautiful rings for knights and 3256 03:08:27,860 --> 03:08:31,280 for dames. And along with that comes wax to use for sealing 3257 03:08:31,280 --> 03:08:33,980 your important correspondence. Since it is a signet ring, 3258 03:08:33,980 --> 03:08:36,560 everyone can go take a look at that, of course, and there's a 3259 03:08:36,560 --> 03:08:39,200 sizing guide. So let us know we can send that off to you. And as 3260 03:08:39,200 --> 03:08:41,860 always, they all come with a certificate of authenticity. 3261 03:08:42,040 --> 03:08:45,160 Welcome to the round table. Enjoy your mutton and meat and 3262 03:08:45,160 --> 03:08:48,160 thank you for supporting the best podcast in the universe. 3263 03:08:57,340 --> 03:09:01,740 It was basically, basically a meet up in Fredericksburg, at 3264 03:09:01,740 --> 03:09:04,440 the surprise birthday party, we had so many no agenda people 3265 03:09:04,440 --> 03:09:07,980 there was fantastic. Everybody hanging out, having a good time. 3266 03:09:08,100 --> 03:09:10,500 And you can do one of these yourself anywhere you want, by 3267 03:09:10,500 --> 03:09:14,040 going to no agenda meetups.com. You can start a meet up. You can 3268 03:09:14,400 --> 03:09:18,000 do it, do it anywhere you want. We recommend a bar that is 3269 03:09:18,240 --> 03:09:22,040 friendly to crowds, maybe with an outdoor space. And always 3270 03:09:22,040 --> 03:09:25,580 remember to tip your your servers. And North Georgia sent 3271 03:09:25,580 --> 03:09:28,160 in a report from their recent meetup in the morning. Get mo 3272 03:09:28,160 --> 03:09:30,380 Unknown: nation, sir Bob here, from the north Georgia monthly 3273 03:09:30,380 --> 03:09:32,600 meetup. Another great night, another great turnout. 3274 03:09:32,660 --> 03:09:34,940 Let's hear what the slaves had to say. Hello 3275 03:09:34,940 --> 03:09:38,660 dude named Ben here, but I've never programmed in the morning, 3276 03:09:38,900 --> 03:09:39,680 Sean here, 3277 03:09:39,800 --> 03:09:42,220 my amygdala is filled with joy. 3278 03:09:42,580 --> 03:09:43,180 Hey, this 3279 03:09:43,180 --> 03:09:46,660 is take at alphatucky. Glad to be here. I'm 3280 03:09:46,660 --> 03:09:50,980 still a douchebag. This is Sir R I'm sitting here with two 3281 03:09:50,980 --> 03:09:54,700 archeologists, and I'm wondering where is Graham Hancock in the 3282 03:09:54,700 --> 03:09:55,300 morning. This 3283 03:09:55,300 --> 03:09:59,440 is Jay. A good time was had by all. Karen double doctor, sir. 3284 03:09:59,440 --> 03:10:04,800 Mike Ross. Here, if you have to take a covid test, just Huck 3285 03:10:04,860 --> 03:10:13,740 Tura spit on that thing, not medical advice. Connection is 3286 03:10:13,800 --> 03:10:14,340 protection. 3287 03:10:17,700 --> 03:10:20,180 Adam Curry: All right, there's a meetup taking place today, the 3288 03:10:20,180 --> 03:10:23,660 first annual no agenda Antietam battlefield meetup. I got the 3289 03:10:23,660 --> 03:10:27,260 pronunciation guide. Thank you. That's at the Antietam National 3290 03:10:27,260 --> 03:10:31,340 Battlefield, Sharpsburg, Maryland, and, oh, that was that 3291 03:10:31,340 --> 03:10:34,760 already passed. They're probably wrapping up by now. The annual 3292 03:10:34,760 --> 03:10:38,840 South Jersey pig roast meetup kicks off just about now at 3293 03:10:38,840 --> 03:10:43,000 Medford lakes, New Jersey and Dane went of the lakes. Needed 3294 03:10:43,000 --> 03:10:46,420 you to RSVP, so I hope you did. Looking forward to a report from 3295 03:10:46,420 --> 03:10:51,400 that one on Monday, Labor Day, the adamantina were here meetup 3296 03:10:51,460 --> 03:10:56,260 that'll be at noon in Plymouth, Massachusetts, 72 allenton 3297 03:10:56,260 --> 03:11:00,900 street that is at the monument to the forefathers. And I expect 3298 03:11:00,900 --> 03:11:04,560 a report from Sir Hey citizen, along with some pictures on 3299 03:11:04,560 --> 03:11:08,580 September 5, Thursday, our next show day, the 805 rooftop meetup 3300 03:11:08,580 --> 03:11:13,380 at four o'clock in Goleta, HGI rooftop Goleta, California, and 3301 03:11:13,380 --> 03:11:17,700 the northern wave public, public slave gathering at six o'clock 3302 03:11:17,820 --> 03:11:21,020 at happy endings in Raleigh, North Carolina. And finally, for 3303 03:11:21,020 --> 03:11:23,480 the next show, Denver, back to the bar, meet up at 8:30pm 3304 03:11:25,460 --> 03:11:29,600 Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado. Then, well one let you 3305 03:11:29,600 --> 03:11:32,360 know that on September 7, there will be meetup in Anchorage, 3306 03:11:32,420 --> 03:11:35,780 Alaska. It's always a good time up there. Aurora, Illinois, on 3307 03:11:35,780 --> 03:11:38,180 the seventh. On the eighth, Indianapolis, keen New 3308 03:11:38,180 --> 03:11:40,900 Hampshire, Kernersville, North Carolina, the 14th, along with 3309 03:11:40,900 --> 03:11:44,620 Chattanooga, Tennessee, Rohnert Park, California Garden City, 3310 03:11:44,620 --> 03:11:48,100 Idaho, Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 15th. St Augustine, Florida, 3311 03:11:48,280 --> 03:11:51,700 Tucson, Arizona on September 19, Charlotte, North Carolina, 3312 03:11:51,700 --> 03:11:55,540 Bedford, Texas on the 21st with San Diego. Goose Creek, South 3313 03:11:55,540 --> 03:11:59,320 Carolina on the 27th Richland, Washington the 28th Dilber of 3314 03:11:59,320 --> 03:12:02,400 the Netherlands. Remember October 18, Fredericksburg, 3315 03:12:02,400 --> 03:12:05,400 Texas, the big hill country meetup. We will be there curry 3316 03:12:05,400 --> 03:12:07,620 and the keeper will be there, along with many other 3317 03:12:07,620 --> 03:12:11,100 luminaries, no doubt, from the hill country. And then there's 3318 03:12:11,100 --> 03:12:14,160 many more to come in October, November, all the way through to 3319 03:12:14,160 --> 03:12:16,740 December, if you want a nice, warm meetup in December, the 3320 03:12:16,740 --> 03:12:20,240 West Palm Beach Florida Meetup is on December 15, if you want 3321 03:12:20,240 --> 03:12:22,460 to know more, if you want to learn about them, if you want to 3322 03:12:22,460 --> 03:12:24,800 register for any of these, let people know you're coming. Go to 3323 03:12:24,800 --> 03:12:28,160 no agenda meetups.com. If you can't find one near you, then 3324 03:12:28,160 --> 03:12:31,580 start one yourself. It's easy and always guarantee the party. 3325 03:12:31,580 --> 03:12:32,420 Sometimes 3326 03:12:32,420 --> 03:12:35,000 Unknown: you want to go hang out with all 3327 03:12:38,720 --> 03:12:41,540 the nights and 3328 03:12:42,680 --> 03:12:47,440 days. It's like a party. 3329 03:12:51,760 --> 03:12:54,940 Adam Curry: Yeah, baby, like a party. Always like a part. 3330 03:12:54,940 --> 03:13:00,360 They're fun. Meetups are fun. I like doing meetups. Let's see I 3331 03:13:00,360 --> 03:13:03,900 have, I have a couple of ISOs actually. Oh, I came loaded for 3332 03:13:03,900 --> 03:13:10,020 bear. Came loaded for bear. Can I just roll out? I got 5123, I 3333 03:13:10,020 --> 03:13:13,260 got six, six. You want to hear him? 3334 03:13:13,920 --> 03:13:15,120 John C Dvorak: Yes, here we go. He 3335 03:13:15,120 --> 03:13:17,640 Unknown: is awful at Podcasting 3336 03:13:19,140 --> 03:13:23,300 Adam Curry: A little too long. I actually have five. Here's the 3337 03:13:23,300 --> 03:13:27,260 next one. They don't know what they're talking about. I kind of 3338 03:13:27,260 --> 03:13:27,980 like that one. 3339 03:13:28,040 --> 03:13:28,820 Unknown: I like that one. I 3340 03:13:28,820 --> 03:13:29,540 Adam Curry: like that one. 3341 03:13:29,900 --> 03:13:32,420 Unknown: The whole thing is crazy. 3342 03:13:33,680 --> 03:13:35,420 Adam Curry: I'd like that one too. That's 3343 03:13:35,420 --> 03:13:37,340 Unknown: it. And 3344 03:13:37,400 --> 03:13:39,440 same old, tired playbook. 3345 03:13:40,400 --> 03:13:42,040 Adam Curry: I think there's at least one in there, 3346 03:13:43,360 --> 03:13:45,460 John C Dvorak: like the Pelosi one. 3347 03:13:45,460 --> 03:13:46,900 Adam Curry: Yeah, what you got? Okay, well, 3348 03:13:46,900 --> 03:13:48,940 John C Dvorak: I've got a bunch. I've got four, so I'm almost 3349 03:13:49,060 --> 03:13:53,140 many. Yeah, let's start with embarrassed. Embarrassed. 3350 03:13:53,200 --> 03:13:55,720 Unknown: We are not embarrassed by any 3351 03:13:56,560 --> 03:13:58,060 Adam Curry: of it. Ah, little echoey. 3352 03:13:58,420 --> 03:13:59,980 John C Dvorak: It's too echo Yes, though, yeah, 3353 03:13:59,980 --> 03:14:01,080 Adam Curry: it won't punch through. 3354 03:14:01,620 --> 03:14:05,580 John C Dvorak: Let's try the classic. Thanks. Okay, 3355 03:14:05,700 --> 03:14:11,280 Adam Curry: thank you. Yeah Pelosi, pleasure. 3356 03:14:11,340 --> 03:14:12,120 John C Dvorak: All right, always 3357 03:14:12,120 --> 03:14:12,600 Unknown: a pleasure. 3358 03:14:16,020 --> 03:14:18,660 John C Dvorak: Again. The last on the list is awesome. Pretty 3359 03:14:18,660 --> 03:14:19,500 awesome. 3360 03:14:20,340 --> 03:14:24,140 Adam Curry: I don't think anything tops Pelosi. Let's hear 3361 03:14:24,140 --> 03:14:24,560 it again. 3362 03:14:24,620 --> 03:14:27,080 Unknown: They don't know what they're talking about. I 3363 03:14:27,080 --> 03:14:29,600 Adam Curry: mean, it slams us. It's Pelosi. It's all the good 3364 03:14:29,600 --> 03:14:30,620 stuff. You got to admit. 3365 03:14:32,720 --> 03:14:36,260 John C Dvorak: Are we good? Yeah, okay, Pelosi is always All 3366 03:14:36,260 --> 03:14:38,720 Adam Curry: right, ladies and gentlemen. Once again, it is 3367 03:14:38,720 --> 03:14:41,080 time for the one and only tip of the day that comes at the end of 3368 03:14:41,080 --> 03:14:44,020 every single no agenda podcast, you will not want to miss 3369 03:14:49,720 --> 03:14:50,140 Unknown: it. 3370 03:14:51,340 --> 03:14:52,360 And sometimes 3371 03:14:56,560 --> 03:14:59,740 John C Dvorak: this is a good one. This is an offbeat This is 3372 03:14:59,740 --> 03:15:02,160 a. Product that people don't even know exists. They're 3373 03:15:02,160 --> 03:15:04,440 Adam Curry: all good. By the way. It's not just this one 3374 03:15:04,440 --> 03:15:05,820 that's good. They're all good. 3375 03:15:06,240 --> 03:15:08,580 John C Dvorak: This is padding adhesive. 3376 03:15:10,020 --> 03:15:12,180 Adam Curry: Padding adhesive. Okay, 3377 03:15:12,900 --> 03:15:15,000 John C Dvorak: yeah, if you've ever had like, a bunch of, like, 3378 03:15:15,000 --> 03:15:17,280 a bunch of sheets or something you wanted to make into a 3379 03:15:17,280 --> 03:15:21,920 notepad that you can tear off page after page. Yeah, this is 3380 03:15:21,920 --> 03:15:24,500 what printers use when they make you. You go over there and say, 3381 03:15:24,500 --> 03:15:26,720 I like to get a bunch of notepads. And they make you a 3382 03:15:26,720 --> 03:15:29,420 bunch of notepads with your logo at the top, or whatever size you 3383 03:15:29,420 --> 03:15:32,720 want. And then they're all, they're all glued together with 3384 03:15:32,720 --> 03:15:36,140 this. What they use is the same stuff you can buy called padding 3385 03:15:36,140 --> 03:15:40,900 adhesive. And you can get a small jar of it, or you can get 3386 03:15:40,900 --> 03:15:44,140 a big gallon of it. It depends. I mean, if you're you don't want 3387 03:15:44,140 --> 03:15:46,600 a big pile of it, because you're not going to use it that often, 3388 03:15:46,600 --> 03:15:49,600 but when you use it, it's pretty cool. I just did this recently 3389 03:15:49,600 --> 03:15:53,980 with a bunch of deposits slips from the bank that would be 3390 03:15:53,980 --> 03:15:57,400 scattered around a drawer normally, but I made him into a 3391 03:15:57,400 --> 03:16:00,520 notepad. I just used the padding it. He's if you could use it 3392 03:16:00,520 --> 03:16:04,200 with you can paint it on the edge, or you can make a little 3393 03:16:04,980 --> 03:16:08,940 dipping device and dip it in there and make it and then let 3394 03:16:08,940 --> 03:16:12,540 it dry overnight. And you have a notepad you tear off one after 3395 03:16:12,540 --> 03:16:17,760 the other. It's dynamite product that nobody knows about. And 3396 03:16:17,760 --> 03:16:20,400 Adam Curry: how would I use that in my life? Specifically, 3397 03:16:21,480 --> 03:16:25,400 John C Dvorak: do you ever have, like, a bunch of, a bunch of you 3398 03:16:25,400 --> 03:16:28,880 ever have a notepad? Or do you have a desire to have something 3399 03:16:28,880 --> 03:16:32,240 you could print yourself, or something you it's you'll find 3400 03:16:32,240 --> 03:16:34,580 you'd find a use for it. Hmm, 3401 03:16:34,640 --> 03:16:37,940 Adam Curry: is it better than paperclips or staples? 3402 03:16:39,140 --> 03:16:42,640 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's cooler. Makes a cool little 3403 03:16:42,640 --> 03:16:45,100 product. You get a little it tears off. It looks like it 3404 03:16:45,100 --> 03:16:46,780 looks professional. Okay, 3405 03:16:47,080 --> 03:16:48,940 Adam Curry: what is the name of this product? Again, 3406 03:16:50,260 --> 03:16:52,480 John C Dvorak: you'd look it up. There's a number of different 3407 03:16:52,480 --> 03:16:57,160 brands out there, and it's called this one I have is CFS, 3408 03:16:57,160 --> 03:17:04,200 binding supplies, padding, adhesive notepad adhesive. You 3409 03:17:04,200 --> 03:17:08,940 can use that notepad adhesive, and you don't think much of it 3410 03:17:08,940 --> 03:17:12,900 at the time, but you'll find if you had some, and it's rather 3411 03:17:12,900 --> 03:17:15,840 really expensive, you'd find a use for it. I 3412 03:17:15,840 --> 03:17:18,180 Adam Curry: would recommend you pick up one of these products 3413 03:17:18,420 --> 03:17:22,100 and take it to the office. People will be amazed by your 3414 03:17:22,100 --> 03:17:25,700 ingenuity. You could even get a raise. You 3415 03:17:25,700 --> 03:17:27,200 John C Dvorak: could get a raise. That's right, here's, 3416 03:17:27,200 --> 03:17:30,260 here's, here's, here's something you can use it for. If you want 3417 03:17:30,260 --> 03:17:33,500 to have some fun. You get, you go to the bank, and you get a 3418 03:17:33,500 --> 03:17:38,300 pile of fresh dollar bills, yes, dollar bills. And you stack them 3419 03:17:38,300 --> 03:17:41,200 up, you make sure that even and you put the padding adhesive on 3420 03:17:41,200 --> 03:17:44,440 the end, and then put in your wallet. And then, when you go to 3421 03:17:44,440 --> 03:17:47,980 the store, and you once, and they ask for money, you tear off 3422 03:17:48,220 --> 03:17:51,940 piece after piece of the dollars from this, from this notepad, 3423 03:17:51,940 --> 03:17:54,640 which is now a bunch of dollars, 10s, 20s, you can do with any 3424 03:17:54,640 --> 03:17:58,000 bill. Oh, they have to be obviously brand new. So yeah, 3425 03:17:58,060 --> 03:18:01,380 make this work, yeah. Oh, and that would get some attention. 3426 03:18:01,440 --> 03:18:01,920 Yes, 3427 03:18:01,980 --> 03:18:04,020 Adam Curry: take it to the script, to the strip club with 3428 03:18:04,020 --> 03:18:05,640 your dollar bills, with your little bound 3429 03:18:06,360 --> 03:18:07,980 Unknown: book of dollar bills. It's beautiful. 3430 03:18:15,960 --> 03:18:19,920 Adam Curry: That's right, it's a tip about tips. It doesn't get 3431 03:18:19,920 --> 03:18:25,640 much better than that. Everybody tip about tips. And that is the 3432 03:18:25,640 --> 03:18:29,660 conclusion of our broadcast for today, live on the no agenda 3433 03:18:29,660 --> 03:18:33,620 stream, trollroom.io, and coming up into show mixes, we have 3434 03:18:33,620 --> 03:18:37,400 David keckka, who always comes with a new mix. And Sir Saturday 3435 03:18:37,400 --> 03:18:41,920 did an ode to the pod father for my birthday, which is nice. I 3436 03:18:41,920 --> 03:18:48,940 appreciate that it's a Adam Sandler classic parody of that 3437 03:18:50,020 --> 03:18:54,280 right after the show, another fantastic value for value 3438 03:18:54,280 --> 03:18:59,980 podcast known as DH unplugged, the most recent one in Episode 3439 03:18:59,980 --> 03:19:04,680 716 those boys are doing okay, coming to you from the heart of 3440 03:19:04,680 --> 03:19:08,100 the Texas Hill Country, here in Fredericksburg, Texas FEMA 3441 03:19:08,100 --> 03:19:12,540 Region, number six, I say in the morning to you, I'm Adam curry, 3442 03:19:12,600 --> 03:19:14,820 John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley. And let me be 3443 03:19:14,820 --> 03:19:17,400 clear, it's where I remain. I'm John C Dvorak. 3444 03:19:17,400 --> 03:19:21,740 Adam Curry: We return on Thursday. I will be on my so 3445 03:19:21,740 --> 03:19:26,300 called vacation in Mexico doing the work for you on jcds Time 3446 03:19:26,300 --> 03:19:29,780 mass schedule, which will be fun. Until then, remember us at 3447 03:19:29,780 --> 03:19:34,220 no agenda donations.com adios. Mofo is a hooey hooey. And as 3448 03:19:34,220 --> 03:19:36,140 always and such. 3449 03:19:38,960 --> 03:19:43,360 Unknown: A lot a local brand cost 50% more today than it did 3450 03:19:43,360 --> 03:19:50,560 before the pandemic. Ground beef is up almost 50% bidenomics is 3451 03:19:50,620 --> 03:19:51,160 working. 3452 03:19:54,640 --> 03:19:58,060 Vice President Harris, you were a very staunch defender of 3453 03:19:58,060 --> 03:20:01,020 President Biden's capacity to serve. Another four years right 3454 03:20:01,020 --> 03:20:04,200 after the debate, you insisted that President Biden is 3455 03:20:04,200 --> 03:20:08,040 extraordinarily strong given where we are now. Do you have 3456 03:20:08,040 --> 03:20:10,740 any regrets about what you told the American people? 3457 03:20:11,220 --> 03:20:12,180 No, not at all. 3458 03:20:13,080 --> 03:20:13,740 Not at all. 3459 03:20:13,980 --> 03:20:14,700 I have 3460 03:20:16,500 --> 03:20:18,060 served with President Biden 3461 03:20:19,200 --> 03:20:21,500 for almost four years now, and I'll tell you, it's one of the 3462 03:20:21,500 --> 03:20:29,600 greatest honors of my career. Truly, I'm concerned about how 3463 03:20:29,600 --> 03:20:40,060 much Facebook values trust and transparency, if we agree that a 3464 03:20:40,060 --> 03:20:43,300 critical component of a relationship of trust and 3465 03:20:43,300 --> 03:20:48,220 transparency. As we speak truth and we get to the truth, my 3466 03:20:48,340 --> 03:20:49,720 promise is working. 3467 03:20:50,620 --> 03:20:54,760 Kamala, you're fired. Get out of here. 3468 03:20:54,760 --> 03:20:56,980 You're fired. Podcaster land, 3469 03:21:02,860 --> 03:21:12,480 you yesterday's Mike Willis, yesterday's JC, and Tina's a 3470 03:21:12,480 --> 03:21:20,040 keeper, and there's your happy dog named Phoebe. Oh indexing, 3471 03:21:20,040 --> 03:21:27,980 clean speed, indexing, clean speed. Mp three, indexing, clean 3472 03:21:27,980 --> 03:21:33,140 speed, index you clean speed. Mp three, mp three, I part in 3473 03:21:33,140 --> 03:21:42,100 iTunes, Joey Joe, Joe, Joey road there, Joey Road, Joe, Joe, Joey 3474 03:21:42,220 --> 03:21:49,300 Joe a, Joey road. Man, Joey, Joe a, Joe a joey road and ramp one 3475 03:21:49,360 --> 03:21:54,040 morning, and I woke to see all the world podcast was a look and 3476 03:21:54,100 --> 03:21:58,180 I mean, they scream, why don't you plug me and mention my show? 3477 03:21:58,180 --> 03:22:03,660 I said I updated podcasting to 2.0 then Matt and Shane started 3478 03:22:03,660 --> 03:22:07,800 during the fight, and then Tim Dillon pushed me with all his 3479 03:22:07,800 --> 03:22:12,480 mind and a big dumb mouth kicked me in the head. It's called 3480 03:22:12,480 --> 03:22:16,320 Revenge Adam curry, and they left me for dead. I said, What 3481 03:22:16,320 --> 03:22:20,280 did I do to make your wall so mad? He said, You can't track 3482 03:22:20,280 --> 03:22:24,680 listeners any can't track ads. Then Tim Cook said, You better 3483 03:22:24,680 --> 03:22:28,880 run and hide. But my friend Joe Rogan came and joined my side. 3484 03:22:30,260 --> 03:22:33,380 He said, If it wasn't for the podfather, the people wouldn't 3485 03:22:33,380 --> 03:22:36,920 hear you. You should be shaking his hand and saying, I'd like to 3486 03:22:36,920 --> 03:22:40,720 hear you. He gives you a platform and he gives you will, 3487 03:22:40,720 --> 03:22:45,280 cause you should be kissing his feet and licking his balls. Now, 3488 03:22:45,400 --> 03:22:49,960 all the podcasters Leave me alone, and we all live together 3489 03:22:49,960 --> 03:22:53,380 in podcasting 20. Oh, Joey, Joe Joe, Joey, Joey, Joey, Rogan 3490 03:22:53,380 --> 03:22:55,000 Joey, Joey, Joe Joe and 3491 03:23:00,040 --> 03:23:07,560 Joey. Joey, Joey, Joey, Joe Joe Joey. 3492 03:23:09,960 --> 03:23:20,540 Well, me and Joe Rogan got married. We got 26 podcasts, and 3493 03:23:20,540 --> 03:23:27,560 we're doing just Fine down in podcaster, podcast is on 3494 03:23:27,560 --> 03:23:27,740 your.org/n 3495 03:23:48,460 --> 03:23:48,880 A 3496 03:23:49,900 --> 03:23:52,360 they don't know what they're talking about. They.