Unknown: Okay? Adam curry.
John C Dvorak, Sunday,
Adam Curry: August 11, 2024 the sure board winning. Give our
nation media assassination, Episode 1685,
Unknown: this is no agenda,
Adam Curry: vaping in the boys room and broadcasting live from
the heart of the Texas, new country here in FEMA Region,
number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry from
John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon Valley. We have throngs of
people created by AI, what a winner. I'm John C Dvorak
Unknown: buzzkill, in the morning,
Adam Curry: I spent a significant time looking at that
yesterday, that at the throngs of people?
John C Dvorak: Well, there's more than one or two examples.
Adam Curry: Here's the only thing. I cannot find, any
evidence the Harris campaign has actually posted any of these
pictures. Seems to me that people are making them and then
saying, Look what they posted. I
John C Dvorak: Does that include the airplane one? Yes, which is
my favorite?
Adam Curry: Yeah, the airplane. I found the origin of the
airplane one. It's an AP picture, and the way it was done
is there, I guess the hair, they're copying everything, the
Harris campaign, Harris waltz, hey, waltz campaign.
John C Dvorak: Harry balls, Harry,
Adam Curry: there you go. Harry balls, they're, um, they're
doing hanger appearances. So it was a shot that was cry. It was
a shot from the back of a hangar was cropped. And that, by
itself, already gives an illusion that people are all the
way up to the plane, and then, you know, I there's probably
some other stuff put in there, but I what I can. I did Google
image. I tried everything I could. I couldn't find any
evidence that the Harris campaign, the Harry ball's
campaign, actually posted that picture. That's my problem with
it.
John C Dvorak: I haven't done that research, and I think a lot
of this stuff eventually originated on Facebook, so you'd
have to go to Facebook to do this, and you don't
Adam Curry: do that. No, that's a good point. That's a good
point. Some, some producers, have been looking for me, and
they they haven't got much further than the AP picture
either, although it doesn't look like the AP picture has been
doctored, but there's a lot of shenanigans going on. There's,
you know, they're doing appearances in, you know, at
free concerts with a bunch of, you know, with some Spotify
Latino star, and then they'll do a little pre game. So yeah, but
ultimately, it's kind of working, because I think Trump
is responding, oh, that's not true. It's fake, yeah. So
they're kind of getting under his skin with all this nonsense,
but that's
John C Dvorak: a meme. What's the I'm not absolutely sure
they're getting under his skin, but I keep hearing that on CNBC
and Yeah, well, now our CNN and MSNBC that he's getting under
skin. In fact, today, that guy, Steele, the black guy, who used
to be a
Adam Curry: Republican, he used to be the head of the Republican
Party, yeah, which
John C Dvorak: was a sign of a bad sign, says he never was a
Republican. It seems now he is the substitute host for Jen
suckey. Well,
Adam Curry: of course, he's always, he's always on MSNBC. He
does that. He does Sunday mornings with Robin Sanders. He
used to run the the Bernie campaign. Oh yeah, he's always
on that show.
John C Dvorak: So he's, he was on this morning, going on and on
about us getting under Trump's skin. Oh,
Adam Curry: okay, well, it's I thought he had responded to the
to the crowd size. I don't have proof of that. I do have proof
of them saying that. And of course, now that you mentioned
it, I guess that right away we have to discredit it. Here's
here's a joy Reid.
Unknown: I want to play this lie that Donald Trump did in his
string of lies yesterday, that
Adam Curry: string of lies show title already everybody
Unknown: sundowning press conference that he did. This is
a story he told about Willie Brown. Shouldn't it be
Adam Curry: the necklace of lies or something? I mean, string of
lies. Let's keep it there. Oh yeah, this is the Willie Brown
story. This is funny, and
Unknown: I want you all to note that he talked about Willie
Brown. All right, take a listen. I
know Willie Brown very well. In fact, I went down in a
helicopter with him. We thought maybe this is the end. He told
me terrible things about her.
Okay, that's not who he meant. Trump was never in a helicopter
Willie Brown. Willie Brown came out with a statement. He laughed
when he heard Trump's allegations that he's nothing
but respect and admiration for Kamala Harris for vice
president. Harris, Willie Brown says he looks forward to
electing her to be the president. Says the debate will
probably be unfair, because he has because Trump is so inept,
the brown that he meant was Jerry Brown. Jerry Brown, who
was the governor, but said that he's never said anything bad
about Vice President. HARRIS either it was gavid Newsome, who
was in a helicopter with Trump when they were surveying
wildfire damage, and he said that he remembers Trump worrying
about the helicopter crashing, calling the town pleasure
instead of Paradise, and suggesting California rake its
forests. Trump never had an emergency landing in a
helicopter.
Adam Curry: Okay, so I played the wrong clip because I had the
crowd clip. I'll play that in a minute. But since we're on this
couple of things, string of lies, there's actually been two.
Well, there was a horrible crash where the Trump helicopter in 89
where, you know, everyone died, but he had a tail strike when he
was on it. There was another instance when Ivanka and Jared
had an engine issue. So it's not like he's never had a problem in
the helicopter, but I could not find we. I have my my fly boys
looking. We're trying to find ATC, we're trying to find NTSB
reports. I cannot find any emergency landing from any Trump
helicopter other than those two two times. But Trump is seems to
be adamant about it, and that would be pretty stupid. If, if,
if, if you didn't know, I think you remember something like
that, but I watched like, 20 minutes of Willie Brown
interview, which is not even worth clipping. He doesn't deny
it. He just says, no, no, he doesn't know what he's talking
about. He didn't deny it at any point in that. I don't know if
you saw that in like the restaurant does. Willie Brown
just live in the restaurant in San Francisco. Seems like he's
in there. You know, during the day everyone's putting the
tablecloths on. He's like, Yeah, but Mr. Mr. Brown, your table's
ready. Well,
John C Dvorak: in the olden days, when stars was still in
business, which was the restaurant to go to I went there
a number of times with Mimi, and Willie Brown was always there.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: So it's more likely that it didn't happen because
Willie Brown lives in the restaurant and then Trump is
lying. Here's the small crowd clip. This is from CNN
yesterday.
Unknown: Trump went so far. This is, this is why we're talking
about this today. He compared the attendance of the rally that
he held on January 6, 2021 which, of course, was right
before the Capitol insurrection. Many of those people walked down
the mall to the Capitol to one of the most iconic speeches
that's been delivered here in America.
Look at Martin Luther King when he did his speech, his great
speech. And you look at ours, same real estate, same
everything, same number of people, if
not we had more. This is a whole new level. MLK,
the thing about his obsession with crowds is, you know, my
mother always taught me when a man is arguing about size
of anything. In this case,
crowds. Where there's an obsession,
he's probably insecure. That's, I'll just put, leave it there. I
think women know what I'm talking about, whether it's your
car, it's your crowd, it's your yeah, whatever,
Adam Curry: yeah. So that's, that's probably the only thing
he said about it. So they are trying to make, to bring that.
They're trying to bring back a lot of stuff. Seems like, you
know, the media is really no, you know,
John C Dvorak: I can only think of it this way. We screwed up
before Can we go back and take a look at what we did? Yeah, and
re, rejigger it. Maybe that'll make a difference. Definitely
preoccupied. Oh,
Adam Curry: I mean, it's, it was even difficult to get other
topics for today, just like, What is going on? It's like
everyone's hair on fire, running around on social media. Shoot on
the television. Same thing. This was, this was interesting,
though we know that in Nevada, which is the big, you know, big
service sector, Trump, almost a month ago, I think at this
point, said, You know, he told his whole story about this
waitress, you know server and Mr. Trump is so hard, you know
me, says, Ah, how about this? I've got an idea. How about no
taxes on tips. So when Kamala Harris, when Harry balls, was in
Vegas, this is what happened.
Unknown: Vice President Harris touched down. Oops, sorry, this
one.
And it is my promise to everyone here, when I am President, we
will continue our fight for working families
of America, including to raise the minimum wage and eliminate
taxes on tips for service and hospitality
Adam Curry: that's pretty awesome. Just take it from Trump
and just lay it out there like it's something new. I was good.
John C Dvorak: That was the bill clinton trick. Oh, do tell me
Bill Clinton that always. They always said was the best
Republican candidate that Democrats ever, yeah, put in
there, he would do that constantly. Yeah, whatever the
idea was from the other side of the aisle, he'd make it his,
yeah. And he did it very consistently. And after a while,
said, Well, okay, well,
Unknown: it's good.
John C Dvorak: I mean, what you do? I can't
Adam Curry: falter for it. It's like, not bad at all. Well done.
CBS, though they were doing, they did a kind of an excellent
propaganda piece with poll numbers. And also, what's really
good now is they're doing the picture of Kamala versus Trump.
So camel is all smiley and joyful and Trump, it's the
Unknown: grumpy, exactly.
Adam Curry: It's the picture from the, you know, the mug
shot. So you just look at it and you see, Oh, happy over here.
Mean, mad guy over here, with all kinds. I mean, just listen
to it, and you'll see what they're doing over at CBS,
Unknown: Vice President Harris touched down in Las Vegas
Saturday and rallied supporters with her running mate, Tim Walz.
With
your help this November, we will win
it capped a week long battleground blitz with Pat
derinas Listening to her take on former president, General Donald
Trump's tight,
but she shut down the crowd when they chanced it lock him up
about Trump,
hold on the court's going to take care of that. We just don't
beat him in November,
a new New York Times Siena College Poll finds Harris ahead
among likely voters in three key states, Michigan, Pennsylvania
and Wisconsin. Former President Trump held fundraisers in
Wyoming and Colorado Saturday after a Montana rally. Friday
night, we're going
to evict crazy camel.
But this morning, before Trump spoke, is grabbing attention.
Celine Dion's My Heart Will Go On, played for the crowd. The
singer released a statement saying, in no way is this use
authorized, and Celine Dion does not endorse this or any similar
use. Meanwhile, the Trump campaign says it was hacked.
Politico first reported receiving internal campaign
research documents from an anonymous sender, the Trump
campaign suggesting Iran may be behind the hack.
Adam Curry: Now, this was rather interesting. First of all, we've
got some spokesman from the Trump camp saying we were hacked
by Iran, huh? Microsoft coming out immediately. Oh, yeah, no,
that was a and they always do this spear fishing. Don't we
just say fishing? Why does the media always say spear fishing?
John C Dvorak: Because, supposedly, is, because it's
targeted, as opposed to mass mailing. I guess. I don't know.
I don't know why they do that. It's,
Adam Curry: it's odd, by the way, Trump should just call her
cookie camera. This crazy camel is no good cookie would
John C Dvorak: be. He's still fishing around for I don't get
why he hasn't used cackling. That's the one that we both
think is better cackling. But
Adam Curry: cookie would work. The Iran
John C Dvorak: thing is kind of interesting, because in security
circles, Iran is notorious for being possibly better hackers
than the Ukrainians, and I suppose they'd rather have
Camela in. I don't know what the deal is with this. Well, this
particular hack, well,
Adam Curry: I think it's to me, first of all, Microsoft comes
out right away. Microsoft, you know, is notorious. They,
they're, they're leaky as a sieve. So, yeah, they also just
did a deal with, or is it here? They just did a deal with
Palantir to sell AI systems into the intelligence community, you
know, so and Microsoft just can't be trusted. I mean, come
on, we can't
John C Dvorak: really get back doors. Go right straight to the
NSA. So,
Adam Curry: and what was that? What actually came out? Again,
it's ProPublica, the same guys who did the, you know, Russia,
all the rushing Russian information, they
John C Dvorak: can't be trusted. Yeah. So
Adam Curry: to me, it's more like and what came out? Oh, we
have a 271 pages on research on JD Vance, one portion, which was
marked possible vulnerabilities. Yeah, hello. That's what you
John C Dvorak: do when you vet a candidate. Totally. That's
exact. That's all you do. So,
Adam Curry: so this, this document, is not interesting,
but it could be a little signal, because that's the one thing
everyone forgets, is the intelligence community they hate
Trump the most. I really have to believe that that, you know,
they'd like to be in control the military industrial complex, you
know, even big pharma, to a degree. He, I think he's got mic
kind of placated with his Iron Dome over America. Imagine what
that cost us. You know, big, beautiful ships. So you know,
like, you know Trump, you know, but we get our money. We don't
have to go to war. Maybe you know he, I think they're okay,
but the intelligence agencies, you know, just as they were
saying, Well, you know, it said, this is all Russian
disinformation. Now it's like, oh, Iran did it? Oh, yeah, Iran,
who knows? And now it gives them the opportunity to put out some
other bogus stuff and just say, Oh, it's from the Iran hack. You
know what? I mean.
John C Dvorak: It totally, totally, and I hate to use that
word, you know, I ran into Michael Hayden. Totally,
totally, the bald guy, Michael Hayden, who's also one of the
big signees on that 51 guys. You ran into him? No, I ran into his
post on Twitter. Oh, okay, he has an account on Twitter, and
it might as well just be Rob Reiner. He is totally
preoccupied with hating on Trump, yeah, and extolling the
virtues of Camela. Yes, it's the damnedest thing I've ever seen.
People should look it up, and it's got a check mark. It's
General. Michael Hayden is, or general, whatever he is. He's
Air Force General, I guess. And he goes on and on. He was head
of the CIA and NSA, and he's just nuts, yeah,
Adam Curry: well, again, it's like those guys like to run
everything. CIA ran Obama. I can totally see it. Here's a shorty,
same, same thing, I guess, same story.
Unknown: The Trump campaign also announced today it was hacked.
The breach was first reported by Politico, which received
internal documents from an anonymous account. The Trump
campaign is now blaming hackers from Iran. Wait a minute.
Adam Curry: Oh, sorry. Politico, I thought it was ProPublica.
Politico,
John C Dvorak: yeah, it was Politico. Political. Wait, what
they talk about pro? That's what I thought it was. Yeah, they're
always involved. The Trump
Unknown: campaign also announced today it was hacked. The breach
was first reported by Politico, which received internal
documents from an anonymous account. The Trump campaign is
now
blaming hackers from Iran. Yes,
Adam Curry: I remember one was say it was from an aol.com
account. And I can tell you with some authority that many former
intelligence people and current intelligence people use aol.com
accounts.
Unknown: So I
Adam Curry: don't know if I have no idea. Maybe, because back
when the code could be code, maybe back in the day when the
AOL accounts were available. You know who you had an AOL account?
Bucha, Nick Channing had an AOL account. There's other guys
this. For some reason, they have AOL accounts. So I'm not sure. I
John C Dvorak: didn't even know. I probably still have an AOL
account. I had dvorak@aol.com but I don't know how to access
it. Yeah, well, anymore I don't know. Problem. No idea it.
Doesn't know remembering a password. I don't know
Adam Curry: how to do it anymore. It was Glenn Greenwald
made a good observation about Kamala Harris, which, and I'll
revamp this clip that we played two shows ago. Remember when the
when the protesters started yelling at her and she said, I'm
talking, you know? I'll play it against just short tax
Unknown: breaks to billionaires and big corporations. He intends
to cut Social Security and Medicare. He intends to
surrender our fight against the climate crisis, and he intends
to end the Affordable Care Act. You know what? If you want
Donald Trump to win, then say that otherwise, I'm speaking
Adam Curry: so Greenwald posted a page from Animal Farm,
classic, classic novel Orwell's animal form Animal Farm, and
I'll read it to you. We pigs are brain workers. The whole
management and organization of this farm depend on us. Day and
night. We are watching over your welfare. It is for your sake
that we drink that milk and eat those apples. Do you know what
would happen if we pigs failed in our duty farmer? Jones would
come back. Yes, Jones would come back. Surely, comrades cried,
Squealer, almost pleadingly, skipping from side to side and
whisking his tail. Surely, there's no one among you who
wants to see Jones come back.
Unknown: Very good observation from Greenwald.
Adam Curry: There is, they're the pigs in Animal Farm. It's
fantastic, yeah. Well,
John C Dvorak: that's what it looks like, yeah.
Adam Curry: Now amidst all this, I've had a couple of thoughts
about this when actually was Nancy Pelosi, pop. Up this
morning in my feed with, I'm not sure who she's been
John C Dvorak: showing up everywhere, yes,
Adam Curry: and you've got to wonder why. Let me see this was,
John C Dvorak: I want to stop you as you go on to this, you
have to wonder why I it, is it possible that Biden is going to
rebuke his being kicked out? Ah, wait,
Adam Curry: I have a thought about that. Listen to what
Pelosi says here. And this is about the the letter that
appeared on a Thursday, right at the beginning of our show day.
No White House letterhead looked like a signature that was, at
least not what he has used before, so possibly forged. And
here's what she said. This just came in this morning.
Unknown: I didn't accept the letter as anything but a letter.
I mean, I mean, there are some people who are unhappy with the
letter. Let me say some said that some people were unhappy
with the letter. I'll put it in somebody else's mouth because it
was a I don't mean it didn't sound like Joe Biden to me. It
really didn't.
Adam Curry: So what is she saying here? She's saying that
Joe Biden didn't write it, that Jill might have written it, or
someone else. Well, actually, if
John C Dvorak: you start looking into it, Mike Donald wrote the
letter,
Adam Curry: oh, that's his campaign guy. Mike Donald
John C Dvorak: is more than his campaign guy. If you look him up
in the Wikipedia, you'll find out that Mike Donald who is the
brother of Tom Donilon, Black Rock, the two brothers are in it
together. Tom Donilon is the one who Seymour Hersh thinks is
running everything. But Mike Donilon is the guy that's in the
White House. He takes credit for writing the letter he said, he
said so much. It's not like a big mystery. I don't know why
this is becoming a mystery. Everybody nobody wants to talk
about. To talk about this guy. He did. I mean, he's been
running Biden since 81 or so. It's all listed in there. It was
Adam Curry: also Bill Clinton's who's in Clinton? Chief of Staff
in for the State Department. He says, Chief of Staff in former
Bill Clinton State Department, former National Security Advisor
to Obama.
John C Dvorak: There you go. Yeah, no, this guy's getting
running things, and he, if you look around, admits that he
wrote the letter.
Adam Curry: Oh, I didn't see that. I didn't know that. Well,
why is Nancy Pelosi being so weird about it? If it's out
there that he wrote the letter,
John C Dvorak: I don't know where she's get she's weird
about something. And Donald quit. Left in January, and then
came. He supposedly quit in January, but yet he wrote the
letter, which was in July. So he's never really left. He's
just still hanging around. And now they have Paul Podesta and
people like that running the show this. Something is very
fishy about all this well, and I'm liking the idea that Biden's
gonna come out on the first day of the conventions. Hey, I
didn't quit. I ever wrote that letter? Yeah, I want my votes
back. Hello, it could
Adam Curry: be that or, I mean, you know, I've been watching
Veep. We've been binge watching, using
John C Dvorak: this as the parallel I am. I am, yeah, to
analyze the situation currently underway
Adam Curry: and last night, yeah, I mean, yes, exactly. Last
night, we got to the episode where Selena Meyer is
campaigning for president, and she has a debate, and she comes
in second, some douche bag baseball coach does much better,
and then all of a sudden, she gets word the President is going
to resign because his wife keeps trying to commit suicide, and
she's going to be president. And I thought, wouldn't that be? So
there's two ways. And remember, I also watched Dave. I mean, all
this stuff just keeps popping up for me. It's like, you know. So
the options are, Biden keels over, dead at the right at the
beginning, because he's scheduled to speak on the first
night, I think so he keels over, you know, or dead just keels
over. Or that, that Daddy Long Legs guy comes in and keels
over. That could be one option. The other is, Biden comes out
and says, Hey, guy, like you say, how are my votes back? I
didn't do it. Or he just says, you know, I'm looking at the
National Enquirer, which I picked up at HEB, because that
now is that still Trump's guys who run the National Enquirer?
Yeah, yeah. So front page. Real Reason Biden quit. It's not what
you think untold story so well, there you go. There's
John C Dvorak: your tease that got you to buy it, of course.
Well,
Adam Curry: I was reading it, and the article is almost at the
end, and so I'm reading it as the belt is going and I felt
like such a douche. I'm like, Okay, I guess. Have to buy it
now, because they can see me leafing through the whole thing.
But then they have Old Joe won't last four more years. Shocking
reason. Biden quit presidential race. And then they have some
psychologist, Holly Schiff, who basically says, now he's he's
got dementia. Well, what was what? What reason was there
otherwise. I mean, that was a phase that was, wow, bogus.
That's
John C Dvorak: a breakthrough thought. That's
Adam Curry: bogus. Totally bogus. Now,
John C Dvorak: well, the possibility, I kind of agree
with these, these different scenarios, and we have to, we
got till the 19th to keep dreaming him up. Yes, but the
other possibility is that, you know, that he real. I think it
now, as I look back on the debate, I think they, you know,
because they're always going to get Jack jacked up. Joe is was
missing, and we're always wondering, why is it possible
that they actually gave him a sedative instead of his normal
amphetamine cocktail, or whatever they do to get him
jacked up? Yeah, so, so he was out there just having you in a
daze, and you just know what to do. He figures this out. He gets
rid of the doctors who screwed him over for the debate. Gets
another guy that you know, Dr feelgood character, in there to
Jack him up so he is all wired to the gills on the on the 19th,
and that's when he freaks out and wants his votes back. This
could be fun.
Adam Curry: It's very possible. I went to YouTube and let me
see. Where's Joe. What's he doing? Because you haven't heard
much about Joe, and it's really not Joe. It's really Jill new
Unknown: at 11. President Joe Biden and First Lady Jill Biden
are heading to New Orleans. They will attend a Biden Cancer
Moonshot event in the city on Tuesday. Details are limited on
what time and where they have not been released yet. In March
of 2023 the First Lady visited the Louisiana Cancer Research
Center in New Orleans to stress the importance of cancer
research. You
Adam Curry: remember Dr Jill? You know, she should have been
Surgeon General, because she's a great doctor, according to
Whoopi
John C Dvorak: Goldberg, nothing. So
Adam Curry: they're still out there. They're still twiddling
around. I mean, it could be super fun. It would be so boring
if he just gets up there and goes and there's nothing. It
would be great. And just think about it, if, and I have not
seen the rest of V but if she becomes president, then
immediately there's all kinds of issues that come into play. A
first of all, Trump's merchandise sucks. He's got to
redo all that that'll that can basically up the GDP of China
for all the new hats. Second, can she then be blamed for
everything that's happening, which, I mean, can she even
campaign as much with with two wars and Iran and all this stuff
going on? And could that be a rug pull from Obama? Who knows?
I mean, we're just dreaming here. But, man, I
John C Dvorak: know we're having nothing but fun. Yeah, it's
true. We're dreaming up screwball ideas and scenarios
that could happen. Any one of them could happen, yeah, but
Adam Curry: I don't hear anyone else coming up with these
screwball ideas, just us.
John C Dvorak: I don't know what. Well, it's because you got
the partisan media, you know, if they weren't, if they were a
partisan like the no agenda show, where we don't really take
us necessarily sides, we just look for explanations that make
sense. Yeah, a lot of this makes sense, if you think about it. I
mean, there it was presented by Trump that Biden might do that,
yes, and once it but once that thought is triggered, then you
have to take it to some, you know, some logical extreme, and
say, Well, what happens if he does this or that? And then
what, what would happen if, if Biden went and said, I want my
votes back, chaos. It would be
Adam Curry: great. Well, then there's the the lone wolf out
there who showed up on for some reason now, a no agenda fan
favorite, Jesse waters,
John C Dvorak: and I always your turn. I always had balls in your
car. Your turn. Yeah, see waters, but
Adam Curry: I cut him out of my clips. Here's Bobby the OP. We
finished the trials today. We had a one week trial in Albany,
the DNC is trying to get me off the ballot in New York State and
then all the other states. So there is there essentially suing
me in every state we had. They in order to get on the ballot in
this state, they they made so many signatures. You need to get
47,000 signatures in 45 days. They tried to make it
insurmountable. We got 150,000 signatures. We got a million
signatures nationally, and we're now on the ballot on all we are.
Have enough signatures now to get on the ballot in every
state, something everybody said we couldn't do. There's a
million Americans who want to vote, who want to see my name on
the ballot. Call it the DNC strategy, is to make sure that
they will not see me on the ballot. My father and uncle,
when they were running the Democratic Party, their big
objective was to make sure that every American could vote, and
today, the DNC is about making sure that people don't have that
opportunity. Now, if it's true what he's saying, Why? Why are
they so worried about him? Other than man Joe could do something
really wacky, and then Bobby The Op might pop up all of a sudden.
I think a lot of people are so sick of everything, they'd be
like, ah, the most sane guy right now seems to be RFK Jr.
Rogan would come out for him. Lots of people would say, Yeah,
this guy's the only guy who's even though there's a lot of
problems with him, you know what? I mean,
John C Dvorak: yeah, well, they just worry he's going to siphon
votes away from the Democrat ticket. Yeah, I don't think it's
any more to it than that. Maybe
Adam Curry: you don't know.
John C Dvorak: I mean, Jill Stein's not going to sucker any
votes away anymore.
Adam Curry: Mary Ann Williams deep in, Mary Ann Williamson,
here's the Swift ops, somewhat in play,
Unknown: and it is my promise to everyone here when I am
president. Sorry,
Adam Curry: wrong one, I'm not good today in my
John C Dvorak: Taylor Swift falling apart. Yeah, did
Unknown: Taylor Swift endorse? Kamala Harris, the mega star has
yet to make a public endorsement, but fans think an
Instagram post from two days ago on Swift's account contained a
silhouette eerily similar to Kamala Harris as a telltale
sign. Ooh, telltale
Adam Curry: sign, eerily similar. Mmm, who
John C Dvorak: cares what Taylor Swift's gonna do, though she
Adam Curry: has all those 13 year olds who can vote. It's
very important.
John C Dvorak: Well, they can vote, if it's a Democrat state,
if they're 13. Oh, any age doesn't matter. Six.
Adam Curry: You're good kid. Come on in. Do you know your
address? Can you can you tell me your attitude?
John C Dvorak: You don't need to see it. You want to show ID.
Don't worry about it. I have
Adam Curry: two more Pelosi clips. Maybe there's something
in here we can glean. Because she was, she is everywhere
suddenly, saying that thing about Biden, is
John C Dvorak: something going did this? What this is? What
makes me think something's up. Because, why? Why anywhere?
Well, here's here she is. They always call her this speaker
Emeritus. When did that title show up? Do they call Kevin
McCarthy the Speaker Emeritus?
Adam Curry: And am I the VJ emeritus? Yeah, you would be, by
their standards. Are you columnist emeritus for PC
Magazine
John C Dvorak: emeritus? Yeah, PC Magazine emeritus. I like
Adam Curry: it. I like VJ emeritus. I'm going to use that
from now on. Hello, Adam.
John C Dvorak: Sounds like a good name for it, for for guys
doing mixing, yeah, mixologist, mixologist, specifically for
mixing drinks. Never mind
Adam Curry: when, when Joe lar Logan's husband introduced me to
General Flynn. He should have said, this is a VJ emeritus. Oh,
you're the right honorable Adam curry, V J emeritus is joy Reid
again with Nancy. I
Unknown: do want to talk a little bit about that. You're
from, emerge from that San Francisco political world. Of
course, you are from Baltimore, from be more but you and there's
something about the Bay Area, let me just list be more.
Baltimore
Adam Curry: is be more. I've never heard be more. Maybe it's
a joy, Reid thing. I don't know be more. Be more.
Unknown: You know, you came up in San Francisco, and there's
something about the Bay Area. Let me just list them. The
Great, late great, Harvey Milk, Diane Feinstein, Jerry Brown,
the former governor, yourself, Speaker Pelosi, gavid Newsome,
the current governor, and, of course, Vice President Harris.
What are they putting in the water in the Bay Area that
creates so many powerful people?
Don't forget Barbara Boxer, don't we're so proud of her as
well.
Adam Curry: Kamala is from she's from Oakland, not not San
Francisco. Or do you consider that to be the San Francisco?
The same water as the San Francisco have the same water as
Oakland?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he
Unknown: go. One of the things that is in the water is that
we're an intellectual resource in almost every issue you can
name. It's a hotbed of activity where they're talking about
saving the planet, saving our rights, fairness in every way,
in our economy. But we also respect each other. We all are
not all in the same place on the spectrum. We don't always agree,
but we respect each other, and we do not take down anybody. So
we're always building strength. We
Adam Curry: respect each other. Everybody respect she says no,
but I'm saying speak. Here's the second part, Kamala,
Unknown: you have to give her. She is politically astute. She
won a tough District Attorney race. She won a tough attorney.
General race, and then, of course, it got easier for the
speaker, excuse me, the Senate race, and now running for
President of the United States. So women, what
Adam Curry: does that mean? Easier for the Senate race. Why
was it easier for Did you just step into it? I can't remember.
John C Dvorak: I believe she stepped into it. Did someone
die? Didn't I think Feinstein died, and they just put her in
temporarily, and then she ran because, you know, she was the
incumbent, which was the Obama I'm guessing. I'm not. I don't
know this for a fact, because I don't remember that the sequence
of events necessarily Well,
Adam Curry: if you, if you recall Obama became Senator when
they took that star, Trek Deep Space Nine, seven of nine lady
and came up with the whole scenario, my husband writes me
whatever that was, yes, yeah, all right, he's the rest
Unknown: officially, something about it personally. Well, you
know, personally, a person of values and politically astute.
We like to think that with that, whether it's in the water or
it's in the air or it's just in our tradition in the Bay Area,
we're very proud of the positions we take and the
friendships we develop, and the respect we have for differences
of opinion. What
Adam Curry: is she signaling here? Is this a San Francisco
like Reed Hoffman deal? Or what is the I
John C Dvorak: have some clips that might explain some of it,
because Newsom is going after the homeless. Well,
Adam Curry: yeah, he's, he's throwing them out. We don't he's
throwing into the bay. We don't even know where he's putting
him,
John C Dvorak: throwing him into the base he's got, he's got a
ramp they he's looking for 2028 as is, as is two or three other,
or as are two or three other of these Democrats, including
Whitmer for president. And he, and I think Shapiro, is probably
one of them. And so he's going to try to clean up the state,
and he's got four years to do it. So he's starting with the
homeless. Yeah, and I we can play these clips when you're
done with your which, no,
Adam Curry: no, no, let's Well, the only other thing is, Kamala
Harris ran against Sanchez, so it wasn't handed to her, but it
was a landslide 68 to 30 something,
John C Dvorak: yeah? Well, that's because it's rigged. I
hate to say that, yeah, California elections are rig.
Yeah, let's do this. So California, I've said this
before the states, that whether you have rigged election, you
got Washington State. Nobody likes these people that are
running Washington state, but they get in with land with big
votes all the time, because it's all mail in ballots. So it's
very easy to corrupt. Everyone just been studied to death.
Everybody knows mail in ballots are no good. California also
relies on them to an not to an extent. Washington is 100% so
100% mail in ballots in Washington State. So they
they've captured Washington State. Oregon is similar.
California is similar. They did capture it doesn't need to be
that bad, like it is in Washington. Minnesota is
captured. Uh, I've always felt that Massachusetts, Illinois,
for sure. Okay, totally corrupt. So
Adam Curry: let's just go back to Biden doing something
unexpected that they may be expecting. And maybe this is
she, I didn't see the whole interview, so maybe she talked
about Newsom. But if you've got Kamala Harris all of a sudden
being president, wouldn't that be a moment for Newsom to pop in
and say, Hey, let me take it over, baby.
John C Dvorak: How's he gonna do that? Just
Adam Curry: by saying exactly that, this is a Democrat party.
You can vote when you're 13. You can just step in say, Hey, let
me take it over, baby.
John C Dvorak: I think the, I think originally, when Obama
came up with the scheme to get rid of Biden, we have to, I
assume that scenario is true, and then Biden screwed him by
announcing that camel is going to be the candidate, right? And
people say the following this analysis goes like this, well,
you can't bring in Newsome. You can't bring in anybody, because
you got a woman of color at the top of the ticket, and she's the
next one in line. You have to give it to her. And so you have
to take that argument and say, Well, how would Obama manage to
get around this, this situation? Obama could do it. Obama could
ordain anybody and come out him and Michelle could come out and
say, this is the way it should be. Yes, I could. Doesn't
matter. It could be a black guy, could be a white guy, could be
any it doesn't matter if Obama's listen,
Adam Curry: if Kamala becomes president, even for the next
what is it? The next four months we had our black female
president that would be great, and she, and you yourself, said
she's lazy, she doesn't want to do anything. And then think
about it. I was the first female, not just female, but
black president. And she is rich for the rest of her life, can go
off do her own thing, and then she could even say, you know,
I've got two wars here. I've got, I'm gonna take care of
stuff, by the way, no taxes on tips. And here's, here's Newsome
to run. I know I'm going off kilter here, but why not? It's
John C Dvorak: premature for Newsom, to be honest about it,
because he still has the California city. This is the why
he's starting to clean up the place, because it's hanging over
his head that it's like the sword of Damocles. The homeless
situation in California is out of control, yeah, and there's no
way you can run he but four years from now, when it's all
cleaned up and he takes credit for it. It's a different story.
So I so I don't think you can slip Newsom in at this point.
You can slip somebody else in, but no, they have nothing.
They're stuck with this woman. Okay,
Adam Curry: all right. Well, let's, let's hear your Newsome
clips.
John C Dvorak: Well, here's Newsome going after the
homeless, and it's become somewhat controversial. Here's
clip one.
Unknown: Two weeks ago, California Governor Gavin Newsom
put out an executive order. He urged cities and counties in the
state to remove homeless encampments. This past week, he
upped the pressure, saying he would take state funding away
from counties that didn't show, quote, demonstrable results.
It's a move that puts the Democratic governor closer to
conservatives on this issue than to the progressives in his own
party to break down the details and politics of this. I'm joined
by reporter Anna Scott in Los Angeles. She covers housing and
homelessness with the California newsroom, which is a
collaboration of NPR stations in the state. Hey, Anna, hey, hey,
the governor said that he would cut counties off from state
funding if they didn't cooperate. Is this a real
threat? Did he give any specifics on this? Oh, my
Adam Curry: God, this is NPR, isn't it? How did they learn to
talk like this?
Unknown: Yeah, I think it's a real threat. Not a lot of
specifics yet, but the state provides a lot of funding to
cities and counties for all sorts of different efforts to
fight homelessness. The Newsome administration has spent around
$24 billion in fact, on this for things like buying commercial
buildings to turn into housing or funding new shelter beds, to
name just two things of many. He didn't threaten to cut any
particular funding stream yet from any specific place, but his
office told me he's ready to redirect money away from any
county that's not meeting milestones set by the state. And
he did call out Los Angeles County specifically, and said
leaders here need to act with more urgency on this issue.
Question.
Adam Curry: What county does is that favela spot you've got,
you've got picked out.
John C Dvorak: Well, if San Francisco is San Francisco
County, so just south of that, I believe that would be in San
Mateo County. So he
Adam Curry: could say, You know what, no money for you. Here's a
favela.
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't think he's, I don't think he's
got the favela mentality yet. Yet,
Adam Curry: you need to talk to your governor. You've got some
good ideas.
John C Dvorak: He's the idea of a favela there in South San
Francisco is probably the best spot to do, to do the
experiment. And, of course, the Hollywood sign in Los Angeles
and the Hollywood sign in Los Angeles, that whole area is
right. Favela ready. It's favela ready. That now there's this
show title. Write that one down. I will favela ready. Yeah, it's
favela ready. But there's plenty of places in LA that are favela
ready, yeah.
Unknown: All right. Cartoon, um.
So Anna, what exactly is Governor Newsom wanting counties
to do that they're not already doing well, it's
not completely clear, other than get rid of more encampments. But
the problem is, people need places to go, and we're short on
affordable housing. We're short on shelter beds here in LA
County. Now, LA has made a lot of progress in recent years on
adding beds and affordable housing units. But the problem
is, in spite of that progress, it's really not visible yet to
most people who are walking around and looking at this
terrible crisis on the streets. So
then, in that case, what would make a visible difference here?
Just more housing for everyone? Yes,
more housing. That's the simple answer, because that's what is
at the root of the crisis a shortage of cheap places to live
that has built up over decades.
John C Dvorak: I'm waiting this is not true. The drug crisis is
part of the problem. They don't mention that. It's got nothing
to do with housing. There's plenty of people, and it's
documented to an extreme of guys who said, go into here. This is
a place for you to stay. I'd rather be on the street. Yes,
correct. And this happens constantly. You, your friend
down in Texas must run into this.
Adam Curry: Well, that that's, that's where he finds people.
They're on the because drug addicts the the main reason,
according to Alan Graham, the reason from community, first
village, the main reason. Reason people become homeless is
catastrophic, catastrophic loss of family or community. And when
you are on the streets, you usually fall into drugs, or
you've already you're already into, you're already in some
kind of drug issue. And that's why they all congregate, because
then you have a community of druggies and and they look out
for each other. You know, it's, it's a whole thing. So that's
that is now your new community. So yes, and by the way, Newsome
does have a plan, but I'm, I'm interested in your final clip on
this first unless you have something else.
John C Dvorak: No, I have another clip.
Unknown: Now, like I said, California, Los Angeles in
particular, are making progress on that, but it's a really big
gap to close. And on top of that, the crisis is at such a
magnitude that you also have to help all the people who are
already on the streets get into the housing and stay there, and
everybody who's out there probably needs a different
intervention. So it becomes very hard to fix. Now the federal,
state and local governments all share responsibility for
different pieces of these fixes, but of course, they can always
point fingers at each other,
right? And Anna just quickly. Are there politics at play
behind news one's most recent statements here? Oh,
yes, of course, he's a politician. I spoke with a long
time democratic political consultant about this, Newsom
has been talked about as a possible future presidential
candidate, but the homelessness crisis in California is a huge
weakness for him, and so it makes sense that he's distancing
himself from the responsibility a bit and saying publicly to
local officials, look, the state's giving you everything
you need, Money, support. Now you have to act. I've done all I
can, but really, there's not a quick fix to this.
Adam Curry: Well, I'm disappointed now because I saw
your clips come in. People should know John and I don't
talk in between shows. We don't discuss what we're gonna do. He
sends his clips. I don't listen to them. I look at the titles
just to see what he has covered. So I see a three parter on
Newsom. I didn't clip in my Newsome stuff because he has
proposed the solution. And I'm very disappointed. Surprisingly,
not in NPR, they didn't mention it. It is the cares court. Have
you heard of this?
Unknown: Maybe governor.
Adam Curry: I have the PDF. I have the one pager PDF here
Governor Newsom's new plan to get Californians in crisis off
the streets and into housing. Treatment and care. It is the
community assistance, recovery and empowerment, court care
court a new framework to get people with mental health and
substance use disorders, the support and care they need. So
what happens is they take you to court. I'm sure there's a reason
why it's called court, and then because it's a court, yes, and
then they so care. Court connects, connect, connects.
This is great care. Court connects a person struggling
with untreated mental illness and often also substance use
challenges with a court ordered care plan for up to 24 months.
So you have it's jail for druggies. Each plan is managed
by a care team in the community, and can include clinically
prescribed individual interventions, i e r drugs with
special several support services, medication and a
housing plan. The client centered approach of these
convicts also includes a public defender and supporter. What is
support like both pom poms, yay, go. You to help, exactly to help
make self directed care decisions, in addition to their
full clinical team. So he's going to rouse them throw and by
the way, this is a $14 billion multi year investment that will
also provide 55,000 new housing units and treatment slots.
John C Dvorak: Well, 55,000 is not enough, but they have slots.
Adam Curry: They just put you in the wall in a slot, in the wall
slots and a more than 10 billion annual investment in community
behavioral health services. Dude, Bonanza, the governor's
comprehensive approach combines a focus on bridge housing under
the bridge, I guess, to quickly rehouse unsheltered individuals
with behavioral health issues, all while more new units come
online, while also transforming medical to provide more
behavioral health services to people struggling the most. So
he's created a court. You get rousted, you go to court. You're
a druggie. You got problems. Take our meds. Sleep here. Or
else, or else. Yes, I'm surprised NPR didn't catch on
to. That That's odd. I am too now that you mentioned it
because it he has a solution. It's a, it's a, kind of a weird
one.
John C Dvorak: It was, it's a totalitarian solution. There you
go. Yes, totally, every definition, yes, yeah. You go
on. And it's done by edict. If you haven't noticed, they
mentioned that is all executive orders. So there's no
legislature involved, or anybody any input whatsoever. This is
just a totalitarian mechanism that he put in place. And the
key to it is this, this phony baloney kangaroo court, yes,
which is exactly what it is. Yep. There you go. Yeah, they're
good for him well,
Adam Curry: and I think it's a model for all of America. Well,
John C Dvorak: that's what basically, that's the point he's
going to try to make when he runs for president. The problem
is he still has that. He still is, got that greasy, kind of
slick and he's with that gravelly voice. He's got some
issues with his presentations, especially when you compare him
to the Jewish Obama, the Shapiro. Shapiro. Shapiro sounds
just like Obama. He's got the cadence, he's got the better
speeches. He's much more dynamic speaker than Newsom. Newsom is
not very good compared.
Adam Curry: Doesn't matter, you know, doesn't matter people just
well,
John C Dvorak: it doesn't matter, because they're going to
just choose somebody that, if you're going to say that, but
they're going to choose somebody, they're going to
choose Shapiro.
Adam Curry: I don't think America is ready for a Jew
president.
Unknown: I really don't think about
John C Dvorak: it. I don't think that. I don't really believe
that. I don't think any, I mean, there's probably a few people
that wouldn't appreciate it, but the Nazis in general, nobody
cares that much about especially a guy like that guy, he's pretty
neutral coming out. He's talking about,
Adam Curry: he's a screamer. He goes all off the off the rail.
He's like, Dean scream. Almost no, yes, yes. Oh man, I thought
I had a dean scream clip of him. Yes, he was going off the rails.
I know I didn't clip it crap. Yeah, because it didn't matter,
because he's no longer in the running. Oh yeah, his voice is
all skipping and stuff. Yeah,
Unknown: maybe I could find it
Adam Curry: somehow. No, I don't think he's well,
John C Dvorak: the other thing that you notice on these
networks that say that Trump is, whatever that word was we used
earlier, freaked out about something or other, which he's
not. Oh, here he's saying. Here
Adam Curry: it is, John. Listen to this
Unknown: an America where, no matter what you look like, where
you come from, who you love or who you pray to, that this will
be a place for you. This is the beginning of it. And
are you ready to look the
next President of the United States in the eye and say,
Hello, Madam
President. Are you ready? Well,
John C Dvorak: that's a good example. I have to say, I'll
give you points for that, okay? Because that's not his nuts. All
right. So the other thing is, they're, they're, they're
condemning Trump for not doing enough rallies. And, oh,
Adam Curry: really, not enough rallies. I thought he was doing
all kinds of rallies. Well, they
John C Dvorak: claim he's not doing as many as he could. And
of course, this is just a kibbutzinger he has. He said in
his press conference, he gave an hour press conference, for some
reason, reasonably good amount of time. Since nobody else is
doing them, yeah? And he says, Look, I'm not going to do a lot
of work until we this, until the convention is over, right? And I
think it's smart in that regard, because the convention will
change the dynamics of everything. He has to see what
happens.
Adam Curry: Well, he's throwing out there this, I want three
debates. And camel is not, not not biting like one debate. I
actually have a clip here. Vice President
Unknown: Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump
take their campaigns to Western states as they also prepare to
meet face to face in their first presidential candidates.
Debate called for three debates. I think it's
very important that we have them. I hope she agrees to them.
September 4, September 10, September 25 Harris
and her running mate, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, after stops
in Michigan and Wisconsin are in Arizona Friday, a key stop in a
multi day battleground state Blitz, both sides are heavily
courting the Latino vote in the final three months of the
campaign, Harris, on Friday, picked up the first ever
presidential endorsement of the oldest Latino civil rights
organization in the US, the League of United Latin American
Citizens, is expected to join Harris for a rally this weekend
in Nevada. Trump traveled to Montana for a fundraiser and to
campaign for. A Senate candidate. He's insisted he has
not adjusted his campaign since Harris became the Democratic
nominee.
I haven't recalibrated strategy at all. It's the same policies,
open borders, weak on crime. She's, I think she's worse than
Biden.
While Harris has surged in recent polls, the Trump campaign
has dismissed it as a honeymoon moment, both the Trump Vance
ticket and the Harris wall ticket are ramping up
appearances in the handful of battleground states, building
momentum for a high stakes debate in September that could
be a make or break moment for either campaign. Well,
Adam Curry: she's only planning on doing one, from what I can
tell, she has not responded, but we'll see about that. Bob, my
team is working on an interview. Yeah, you're right. Trump is
probably just sitting back like crazy. Joe could come out jacked
up. Joe could return, you know, Jill now doing the injections
herself. She doesn't trust anybody. Maybe Hunter. Hey, Dad,
I
John C Dvorak: got some good stuff, and he knows how to do
it. You know,
Adam Curry: did I read somewhere that that wacky woman from the
Secret Service who resigned, that she had, like, a partial
DNA hit on the coke in the White House, and she obfuscated it.
John C Dvorak: I read she wanted the evidence destroyed. Well,
clearly, clearly, yes, this, this is, I Yes, disgusted. What
you just said, yeah, that they had a partial DNA hit, and she
wanted the evidence destroyed, and they wouldn't do it because
it was violation of some process and never got destroyed. But we
that's what she was angling for. But we don't know what the part,
who, the part they ended the investigation. Yeah, they could
do that. So that's what she did. So meanwhile,
Adam Curry: as if it never happened, you know, there was an
assassination attempt, and, man, if you look at Instagram, I I
looked at my daughter's on Instagram. That's the only way I
can keep up, keep up with what she's doing. She doesn't tell me
everything. So I got to go look. What are you doing? She's going
into the jungle again. She's doing another reality show. I
think it's like girls in the jungle. So it's all these kind
of cute girls, and they throw them in the jungle.
John C Dvorak: Oh god, it's like Naked and Afraid. Yeah, well,
Adam Curry: and so I'm I'm scrolling around, and I see
people posting things like it was shrapnel. He didn't get SAS.
There was no assassination attempt. There was just some
shrapnel from what exactly he's
John C Dvorak: lying I mean that if you ever watch the clip of
him getting shot the teleprompter, which is where
they say the shrapnel came from, was intact. The teleprompter was
not hit. I'm just,
Adam Curry: I'm just saying people, people have so it's as
if it never happened. I mean, it was, it was an amazing moment in
in American political history. It was like, we're just back to
calling him needle dick and anything else. It just no good
this guy crazy, weird, weird Vance, weird Trump blah, as if
it never no one is disturbed by it. And I have a couple of clips
here. This is so now we have new body cam footage, which really
shows us nothing but the Secret Service that
John C Dvorak: shows body cam footage,
Unknown: told them
they need to post the guy.
I told him that
the Secret Service, I told him that Tuesday,
I told him to post guys over here. What? No, we're inside. I
told them to post guys over here. I
wasn't even concerned about it, because I thought someone was on
the roof. The guy walking back. I
talked to the Secret Service guys. They're like, yeah, no
problem. We're gonna post guys over here. So to put it into
context, Ryan, what we're listening there is this local
law enforcement officer, again, just approximately 10 minutes
after somebody fired or met Thomas Matthew crooks fired
eight rounds at Donald Trump, saying, Look, I told the Secret
Service we needed people back here, because he's standing
behind the building or the buildings where the shots were
fired from. Then he says, I told the Secret Service that on
Tuesday, presumably there was a site walk through. Obviously,
the shooting happened on a Saturday, July 13, so that was
at least several days beforehand. So
Adam Curry: there's, you know, a new analysis, okay, but
everything is Secret Service. Secret Service. I just want to
revisit briefly the theory that we've discussed. This was a very
typical FBI six week cycle. We've been on this for over a
decade, and it comes and goes. But when it's on the six week
cycle, the FBI some, typically, some poor, weak minded brother
is seeing an olive bar online, and they they sigh up and for a
couple of months, Hey, man, you should go blow something up.
And. And the guy goes out there, just like crooks had a phony
baloney detonator with bombs. We don't even know if the bombs
actually worked, because we've heard nothing more about them.
That's when the van was whisked away, or was it in his car? We
don't know. There's some circumstantial evidence of FBI
cell phones. And, you know, near the FBI, whatever it is, a lot
of FBI stuff, and it's a very typical FBI setup. It's like,
make it look like someone's going to try and kill the
president with bombs. We even had the mainstream almost as if
they were, as if someone triggered it and said the wrong
thing, or they were ready for it. Oh, Trump falls down, afraid
of loud noises and but then the kid went rogue, and he brought a
rifle and he took some shots. So, lo and behold. So this is
our six week cycle theory. We've we've heard this from people who
are in the know. Lo and behold. I'm really from waters to the
pool boy, here we go. Tim pool had an FB a former FBI agent on
his show, often called a whistleblower. I don't know if
he's a whistleblower, but he, he
John C Dvorak: everybody, everybody's a whistleblower. No,
I know
Adam Curry: that when you tell the truth, you're a
whistleblower. And he lays out the six week cycle, exactly
Unknown: when the FBI charts their progress, they are looking
for a thing that are called stats. This is something that
all law enforcement, you know, this is like quotas, if you
will. And so we need to have stats that say, I have X number
of cases in this field, and I have X number of arrests in this
type of category. We're going after ms 13. We're going after
organized crime, blah, blah, blah. We're doing these counter
intelligence investigations. They have a thing that's called
a disruption, which means the plot basically got foiled, and
they have a thing that's called a dismantlement, which means
that this network was taken apart. And you get more points
for a dismantlement than you do for a disruption, if my memory
serves. It may be backwards, but I think it's that. So the thing
is, is these guys are literally going for gold stars on a board.
And you think, Okay, well, would they, you know, sacrifice public
safety to do this. If they thought they can get away with
it safely, they will. And the second thing is the oldest
reason that's ever existed, it's greed, the Senior Executive
Service in all federal governments, but definitely in
the FBI that I was able to experience, they get paid a five
figure bonus. It's like between 30 and 50, maybe $60,000 if they
hit all their metrics. So they are incentivized to get arrests
in certain categories. They're incentivized to do these sort of
things.
Adam Curry: Okay, sounds pretty much like the six week cycle. We
always thought it was for the budget, so they can justify the
budget. Now it turns out, and I'm gonna take this guy at his
word, that it's an individual star collection thing. If you
get more money, if you can disrupt something. And then
remember, we had that kind of rogue Iran thing. Oh, Iran. The
Iranian wanted to take him out. Remember that? Yeah. Well,
listen to this part, Vice President
Unknown: Kamala Harris and former sorry, I'm
Adam Curry: so bad today. Here we go. The FBI
Unknown: went so hard on January 6 that they overdid the number
of hours that they're allowed to assign to domestic terrorism,
because they have to spread themselves to international
terrorism and domestic terrorism. They massively
overdid it for dt, which is the abbreviation. They did it so
badly that they sent out section chiefs from headquarters to all
the field offices regionally, and said, Listen, we need you to
go through all of your domestic terrorism cases and find
connections to international terrorism so we can recategorize
your hours. Imagine like an attorney, Bill's hours. The FBI
assigns the work of an agent against certain types of
categories of cases. So they had too many, what are called 266,
cases. Those are the domestic terror they needed more. 415,
cases. And in order to do that, they were like, Hey, did you
find a dude who is a white supremacist? But he was in a
chat room somewhere that later on, an al Qaeda guy went into
because we can tie them together and make this a 415 instead of a
266 it's the dumbest thing possible. But when you
understand, we're talking about bureaucracy here, here's the
scariest part for me. This has been going on for 20 years.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: So that takes us right back to this, the
Unknown: FBI arresting a Pakistani national in connection
with an alleged plot to assassinate former President
Donald Trump.
Adam Curry: There you go. They went. They wanted a 415 so they
just throw that in. Good to go.
Unknown: I completely believe this,
John C Dvorak: but I think we both do. I think this has been
believed by us in one form or another. What we did, the
missing information is the bonus, yes, now we know which is
more impetus than just the budget. It's even better. It's
even better because you get, you get personal benefits. You don't
just, oh, I'm doing it for the good of the agency. Yeah. So,
yeah. So it makes it even more. It makes even more sense if you
bring that yes,
Adam Curry: yes, exactly,
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah, the pack is standing, yeah, it's a
good one.
Unknown: Sure
John C Dvorak: everybody's all in on this, yeah.
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, everyone is all yelling about crowd size.
Is an AI and capitalist. She's, she's hiring people $250 to sit
in the crowd. Yeah, duh. Dex
John C Dvorak: is $15 an hour. Oh,
Adam Curry: yeah. That's all. That's whether that
John C Dvorak: said. This another thing that's all you
read, probably true. That's
Adam Curry: all you read on X, news, social. It's all about
that. It's boring. Here's Elon Musk. He keeps because I follow
him, he keeps posting X is the number one news app, okay, yeah.
John C Dvorak: He's been pushing that, that idea, yeah. Now
here's a while we're on this FBI stuff, there is a couple of kind
of parallel weirdness is going on.
Adam Curry: We got to stop using the word weird. We have to stop
that we're using
John C Dvorak: I told you, I called you out. I know. I'm glad
you did, but you you just Yeah, I know it's bad, it's bad, it's
bad. This is bad. It's one of those bad we've been I don't
like me. We've been
Adam Curry: influenced by by Tim waltz. How bad or we,
John C Dvorak: which going after for some reason? Scott Ritter,
yeah, the
Adam Curry: FBI visited him, and Tulsi Gabbard was she's on that,
that fly check her out list or something.
John C Dvorak: Well, she's irked about it, yeah, I can imagine.
But what's interesting is that two of them have both discussed
this, uh, Scott Ritter discussing it everywhere he can.
But the best discussion comes off of RT, which he works for.
Ah, and I want to play this, these two clips, and then play
Tulsi clips, okay, and then see if you can find the commonality,
the commonality between what they both say,
Unknown: the FBI and the police have raided the New York home of
former US Marine Corps intelligence officer and current
RT contributor Scott Ritter. He addressed his followers on
social media platforms, excluding that the FBI has
concerns over his link with RT and Russian media outlets, but
FBI has executed a search warrant on my home. The search
warrant was based upon what they deemed to be probable cause that
I am in violation of the foreign agent registrations act. It
worked for RT, of course, and they executed a search warrant
looking for electronic devices, my computers, my cell phone,
things of that nature. Based upon their questions, it appears
that they are primarily concerned about my relationship
with RT and Sputnik Scott
himself was not detained in the rate. Which is the latest in a
string of actions targeting the former UN weapons inspector.
Back in June, the US State Department seized his passport,
taking him off a plane as he traveled to attend the St
Petersburg International Economic Forum. It comes as the
threat of assassination has been hanging over Mr. Ritter for
quite some time after he was added to a notorious Ukrainian
kill list for his views on the conflict. Scott says that
alternative stance the US government has effectively
declared war on him.
Adam Curry: Okay, so far, just sounds like harassment.
John C Dvorak: Well, the fact that they took him off of a
plane, oh, I didn't know that part. I didn't know that part
either, and I didn't know anything about the kill list. So
this is our tea is actually giving us better reporting.
Yeah, shocker. Shocker. Here's the second part of this.
Unknown: This is absurd in the extreme. This, this raid on my
home was designed to have a chilling effect, to make me
think twice about speaking out, about writing, about doing
podcasts, and as I told the FBI, and I'll tell you now, there
isn't a snowball's chance in hell that I'll back down because
I'm doing nothing wrong today, the United States government
declared war on me. They declared war on my ability to
write, my ability to speak, my ability to interact with the
American people and indeed, with a broader international
audience. So be it we're at war. It's not a war I plan on losing.
Scott Ritter, well, another RT contributor, former Senate aide
to Joe Biden, Tara Reid, has repeatedly stated she's been
harassed by the FBI too, and says there's an ongoing witch
hunt for Americans who hold a different point of view. He
spoke
out against the war in Iraq and revealed that the government
lie, the US government lied about the weapons of mass
destruction. He he spoke out. George Galloway famously spoke
out. And he was a whistleblower. He has been a whistleblower. And
then, you know, he was put in prison for charges that he was,
you know, convicted of, and he did his time, he served his
sentence. So I don't think it's related to that sentencing at
all. I think, again, it's just a pattern of what you're seeing in
the United States, which is. Their surveillance state and
authoritative government that you know, we have the illusion
of free speech. We have that illusion of a right to travel,
but in reality, it's only allowed if we say what the you
know, United States wants people to say. Otherwise, you're at
risk. Many say that are unfortunately, the intelligence
Cabal has has really taken over the United States government,
and I think you have seen that pretty clearly just in the
recent events around the 2024 election.
Adam Curry: Well, yes, no surprise to us. As an aside,
someone mentioned in the troll room that we were on a weird
kick previously, around Obama time and I went to Bing, it.io
Holy crap. We would say the word weird, eight, 910, times an
episode. It's terrible. It really is. It's bad. Okay, so,
yes, well, the intelligence community runs the country. Duh.
All right, yeah, hello. Gotcha. Yes,
John C Dvorak: they have not contributed much to the show
recently. It's really annoying. Well,
Adam Curry: where are those? Aol.com addresses people. Come
on. Step it up. So
John C Dvorak: we have Tulsi on watch list. And here she's,
she's off the deep end here, but this interesting, the fact that
it seems to me that she should be happy that there's three air
marshals on every flight she takes. You feel like a lot of
safety around you. You know what I mean. I hear
Unknown: you. So what exactly did Tulsi Gabbard do? Oh,
Adam Curry: is this Frau Ingraham?
John C Dvorak: It's, I'm sorry I should have warned you, because,
because everything is traced back to her Tulsi appearance on
fraud show,
Adam Curry: frouse show, very good, added
Unknown: to the terror watch list. It came the day after she
criticized the Biden administration, right here on
the angle, whatever.
Adam Curry: I haven't watched her in a while, but what this is
very nasty.
John C Dvorak: It's no different. It's always nice. You
know, I got this. This is an aside. I've mentioned this on
the show once before. She used to have a radio show. Yes, I
think she, maybe she still does not know, I don't think so, but
she had a radio, syndicated radio show, and if I and it was
a later show wasn't like during the day. It wasn't done drive
time or anything. So I tune into it every so often by accident,
as I'm going through the channels, when, if it was later
and I'd hear it, and I always swore what it sounded like a
guy. She sounds like a male on the radio. For some reason, she
just sounds like a like a hype, you know, like a male 10 or not,
not a guy with a baritone voice, but she sounds male ish, and I
was always stunned by that.
Adam Curry: Let's return.
Unknown: See our foreign policy decisions are being made by
unelected people in the military industrial complex who are
profiting from us being in a constant state of war and the
national security state that has more power to undermine our
freedoms and liberties when we are in a state of war. Kamala
Harris does not have the strength to stand up to the
military industrial complex.
Okay,
that's wild. Joining me now Tulsa. Gat reforming us. KYLE
SIMON, Fox News contributor, Tulsi,
now you serve this country in uniform, even getting deployed
to Iraq.
Thank you for going unlike Tim Walz, and now you're being
surveilled. I mean, it's a form of surveillance hassling and
intrusion upon your freedom to move by the government. What is
this? I mean, I didn't believe it really when I first heard
about it, I said, Oh, that can't be but how does this make you
feel? Laura, this is a clear act of political retaliation.
There's no other way to put it. You laid out the sequence of
events the very next day after my conversation with you on the
air, warning the American people about how dangerous a Kamala
Harris presidency would be, I was placed on this domestic
terror watch list, which is called the quiet skies list
under the Department of Homeland Security. The clear pain and
real, visceral hurt that comes from this is, as you mentioned,
like many Americans, I enlisted because of the terrorist attacks
on 911 to go after the Islamist terrorists who attacked us on
that day, and to now have my own government now turn around and
put me on a domestic terror watch list. It is, it hits to
the core and is the ultimate sense of betrayal,
Adam Curry: okay? Because, yes, it is a betrayal.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of an amusing
betrayal. I have nothing. I
Adam Curry: have I noticed just one of those aside things. Tulsi
does not look good on her from her, if they shoot her from the
left side. Have you noticed this?
John C Dvorak: She does have angles that make. Look better,
yeah,
Adam Curry: straight front on is good. And and on her, let me see
her right side, the left side, oh, makes her look very old and
kind of crackly and that then you, you know, that block, her
John C Dvorak: site, her left specifically, yes, her left
side, not looking at her, at her left No,
Adam Curry: her left side specifically. And that's also
the side with the with the the blonde lock,
Unknown: oh yeah, tell
Adam Curry: them to look at, look at someone. Some be on.
Look out for it. Once you see it, you can't unsee it. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: have probably enough to look at it. Okay, too.
Unknown: We look at why they are doing this, it has a chilling
effect. It sends a warning, both to me and to anyone else who
even thinks about daring to criticize our own government,
which is a guaranteed, protected right under the First Amendment.
Yeah, that that we will be subject to a violation of our
Fourth Amendment right to privacy through this kind of
surveillance, and that's that's the biggest stress that's been
caused by this entire situation. Laura is now forever. I will. I
will always be looking over my shoulder wondering if and how
our government in any of these different agencies is
surveilling me, watching me. Are they reading my phone calls?
Yeah. I was going to say yes, yes and yes, that's what I would
guess. At least now in a letter from whistleblower attorney
Tristan Levitt, he writes that the special mission coverage in
MS gabbard's case reportedly involves two explosive detection
canine teams, one transportation security analyst and explosives
one plainclothes TSA supervisor and three federal air marshals
on every flight. Ms, Gabbard boards,
Adam Curry: well, do they get her first class seating?
John C Dvorak: I just find the whole thing peculiar. But did
you notice the commonality with the sky? Ritter, clip,
Unknown: airplane, using
John C Dvorak: the term chilling Oh, which you actually noticed
when he said it, yeah, chilling effect. She says it right the
beginning of that clip. And I listened to the Ritter clip. He
said, this is like code,
Adam Curry: hmm, you so they're both, let me hear, let me hear.
Tulsi again, say chilling. We
Unknown: look at why they are doing this. It has a chilling
effect. And
Adam Curry: did Ritter say that in his first or second clip? I
don't remember, but I
John C Dvorak: don't remember what he said, he but he said it
is at a point where you picked up on it. I was like, probably
the second ship. But it's not just chilling, a chilling
effect. It's exactly the same wordage, which is like, Well,
okay, I guess it does, but it just seems like a coincidence
that of all the people that are being well, hold on a sec,
Unknown: they are both military. So dia CIA.
Adam Curry: So it could be the DIA code for chilling C chilling
effect.
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't know what to make of it, but I
just I did notice it, and it was clear as day, and it was exact
same coded language, which always, especially from these
two events, which are nowhere near each other, but they're
using the same coded language. So it just bother me. Okay,
final clip for Tulsi, literally
Unknown: like the Soviet Union, China today, North Korea, any
totalitarian regime but Donald Trump the totalitarian right?
He's the dictator in waiting. Okay, yeah, this is just and
this is what, what we know about, and we know about it
because of these brave whistleblowers from the Air
Marshal Service who are coming forward. What I'm questioning
is, what are the things that are happening in our government that
I don't know about how long have they been surveilling me. This
is just the recent occurrence. I would not be surprised to know
that there are other government agencies who are also being
weaponized against political opponents, those who dare to
challenge this regime of the Biden Harris administration, and
that's really what it comes down to, and why they have to be
stopped the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of
happiness, I cannot fund free. And you pointed to this, yes,
exactly. I cannot get free so long as my government is
breathing down my neck and watching my every move.
Adam Curry: I disagree with her here. I do not think that these
agencies or these divisions, and I'm specifically looking at the
military industrial base or the intelligence community, they're
not all in on anybody except themselves, and as is witnessed
by the. The heavily military industrial base funded AIPAC.
Unknown: It's been one of the most expensive primaries in
history. APEC spent $8.5 million for Wesley Bell's campaign to
defeat Missouri representative curry bush. She's been a member
of the progressive congressional group, the squad, and a target
of a pack because of her critical stance on Israel's war
on Gaza since October 7, Cory Bush is the second member of the
squad who has been unseated in a similar APEC strategy in the
primaries this year, Democratic Representative from New York,
Jamal Bowman, was defeated by pro Israeli centrist George
Latimer. AIPAC put nearly $15 million into latimer's campaign
trail. The results showcase the political and economic power of
AIPAC and deep divisions among Democrats over Israel's own slot
on the besieged trip. But it's not only Democrats who are being
targeted. A Republican Representative from Virginia,
Bob good has lost his seat against John McGuire, who was
endorsed by the Republican Jewish Coalition. The group
attacked Congressman good after his vote against financial aid
to Israel. AIPAC says these victories are and I quote,
further proof that being pro Israel is good policy and good
politics on both sides of the aisle. Meanwhile, unceded
Congress members and their supporters slam a pack for
spending millions of dollars and I called again to brainwash
waters
John C Dvorak: now, wait, wait, the Republican Jewish Alliance.
Is that? What she said? What is it? Three guys,
Adam Curry: what? Let me listen. Well, this is TRT, so let me
hear what she said, meanwhile,
Unknown: unceded Congress members and their supporters
slam a pack for spending millions of dollars, and I
called again to brainwash waters. I
John C Dvorak: don't know where she said that you just back for
but the
Adam Curry: whole, the whole point is that thing is funded by
the by the military industrial base. Sure, you know, it's and,
you know, the Jews are just, basically in it, just, you know,
as a sideline. Because look at what they're doing. Look at how
they're ramping up Iran. And, you know, and I was listening to
a couple other podcasts about it, I don't think Iran's going
to do anything. I think, you know, they're just going to sit
back. You know, they're not going to retire.
John C Dvorak: They killed the guy themselves.
Adam Curry: Yeah, oh yeah. He was annoying. And it's
John C Dvorak: hanging out. He's over there. It's they don't like
the the the Shia anyway. You know, there is that thing we
brought it up in the last show, that there's difference in the
religions, and
Adam Curry: it's better to have Israel waiting. I mean, that's
terror. You know, you're waiting like, do I have to go into my,
my, my bunker? Do I have to get into my
John C Dvorak: meanwhile, the USA has to spend millions of
dollars in fuel and efforts to keep all these ships going
around and around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's, it's a horrible
situation. No, it's
Adam Curry: a great situation. Lots of money, lots of money
back to
John C Dvorak: Tulsi Gabbard, and the fact that, you know, she
probably is not being targeted by intelligence. She's being
targeted, though, by the demo. I've said this before. I'll say
it again. The Democrat Party is a cult. She quit. The cult is
within you. She quit the cult and became kind of a independent
Republican type, and they're going after for that reason. And
that's the only thing that's going on. Is that, okay, you
quit the party. This happened to anyone who's ever been a
Democrat. It lasts for about a decade.
Adam Curry: Well, have they been targeting you since you quit the
Democrat party? That was in 1979 Oh, so you're done. You're out
now.
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's been done for years. I
Adam Curry: mean, I've been long, you've been deprogrammed.
You're good. It's like, That
John C Dvorak: guy, I've been out of that, yeah, but it was,
it's a cult, and so would be, when you quit a cult, they
always go after you right away, and they keep hounding you come
either come back into the cult, or you or then you just, you
know, yeah, it takes forever, though, so that, I think that's
what they're doing to her, freaking her out. So we
Adam Curry: just put another three and a half billion for
Israel to spend on US weapons, according to CNN, you know,
we're positioning, uh, ships, big, beautiful ships. Yes, it's
great. Just keep it rolling for a little bit. And then we have
this. This was very odd, this story. Well, here's the setup.
30 seconds, senior
Unknown: EU officials have joined a growing chorus of
condemnation after an Israeli air strike on a school compound
killed dozens in Gaza City. The EU's top diplomat, Joseph
Burrell, expressed his horror at the attack, which Gazan
officials say killed more than 90 people sheltering in the
school. Egypt and Qatar are demanding an urgent
investigation, and the US has said it's, quote, deeply
concerned about the strike. Israel has repeatedly claimed
that Hamas uses schools as cover in the wake of the October 7
terror attacks,
Adam Curry: so the way they make its. Around, and I could have
clipped him 20 of these,
John C Dvorak: the way I have the NPR version. Yeah, that.
Where is it? Under Israel? Got it.
Unknown: You hit it. Vice President Harris, ahead of a
campaign rally in Las Vegas tonight, said, once again, that
there have been too many civilian casualties in the
Israel Hamas war. Israel has a right
to go after the terrorists that are Hamas, but as I have said,
many, many times, they also have, I believe, an important
responsibility to avoid civilian casualties.
The school was being used as a shelter for Palestinians
displaced by the war in an area where people have been displaced
since the war started in October, the Israeli military
says they were targeting a Hamas command center within the
school. The attack came early this morning, when many people
were praying in an area used as a mosque.
John C Dvorak: So and then you have the 14 second version,
which is the shortest of them all on PBS, which is the called
last Israeli strike,
Unknown: an Israeli air strike in Gaza hit a school today,
killing at least 80 people. The strike happened during morning
prayers. According to witnesses, Israeli defense forces say Hamas
militants were operating out of the school. Hamas disputes the
claim. Okay, so
Adam Curry: all the other reports I heard was according,
you know, according to the Hamas medical information source. In
addition to that, when they say school, school, school is a
Saturday, I looked it up, there's not a lot of kids who go
to school in the Muslim faith on Saturday, but they kind of make
it sound like they killed kids. They certainly started that way.
And I think they, they did kill some senior dude, didn't they?
It's kind of omitted from the reports they.
John C Dvorak: I thought that senior dude that was killed with
some in some other operation could
Adam Curry: be but this is now being used as a wedge. This is
one of these examples where, I'm sorry, this is a spokes hole
from the US State Department.
Unknown: This is one of these examples where the law of
unintended consequences in war created some just disastrous
consequences. You know, as as the White House said today,
although we understand and recognize that Israel needs to
target terrorists, that they're deeply concerned and that Israel
needs to take more precautions to protect civilians. From the
American point of view, what they're using this for,
hopefully, is to going to give some more momentum for the
ceasefire hostage deal, that it kind of underscores the urgency.
It's kind of a now or never time, which is why we're hoping
to have a kind of diplomatic train of representatives from
the United States, with this August 15 date set for this week
to finally bring the table the parties to the table and reach
agreement in a very sad and tragic way. Today's event gives
the United States additional leverage and pressure, because
while there is this tragedy that took place this morning in Gaza,
there's another disaster looming on their northern border with
Hezbollah. You know, the Israel understands that they need the
United States to back them up right now, while they're
standing and bracing for retaliatory attacks on both Iran
and Hezbollah, they're heavily dependent on the United States
for weapons and other assets intelligence. So what in the
best case scenario, this morning's event can do is to
create some kind of momentum and incentive for the United States
to say to Israel, look, we need some concessions from you to
reach that cease fire in Gaza. You need us more, in fact, than
we need you at this point. And Netanyahu, it's time to seal the
deal.
Adam Curry: Okay? Working a deal would look good for Kamala.
That's from the State Department. So I'll, I'll take
that as some genuine information. But still, we got
to keep the ships in the, in the in the region. Can't, can't be
given up on that. Do. Just speaking, yes, I
John C Dvorak: wanted to talk about Ukraine before we oh,
goodness, do you get about that? Okay, all right, mainly because
of the Ukraine going into Russia. And I have the three
clips,
Adam Curry: yes. So they say
John C Dvorak: I'm, I'm, well, you know, maybe, maybe it's not
suspicious, yeah. But I have the, I have the three clips. One
is the newest Ukraine into Russia. NPR clips, 55 seconds.
Unknown: Oh, a second,
John C Dvorak: yes. Newest yet got it. Ukrainian
Unknown: president Zelensky is praising his country's troops
for their incursion into western Russia, which caught the Russian
military by surprise. As NPR. Greg myri reports these were
Zelinsky most explicit remarks so far on Ukraine's ongoing
offensive.
In his nightly video address, President Zelensky said he'd
receive updates on the operation to, quote, push the war into the
aggressors territory. He went on to say that the offensive is
exactly the. Kind of pressure that's needed, pressure on the
aggressor. Ukrainian officials have been tight lipped about the
offensive that began with Tuesday's surge into Russia's
curse region, but some information is starting to
emerge. Ukrainian troops are beginning to post on social
media from inside Russia. They show themselves tearing down
Russian flags and standing in front of road signs to indicate
they've entered a village or town.
Adam Curry: Okay? Now I've read reports everything from Putin is
freaked out. He's rushing around state of emergency in Moscow,
and then I see reports of him going, well, there's something
going on. We got to take care of that. I'm sorry, there's
John C Dvorak: also some reports about, I don't have the guy's
name, and I now I feel bad about it, but there's some general
that has been running things, this Ukraine thing, and they're
trying to get rid of them. On the Ukraine side of the
Russians? No, no. On the Russian side. Oh, typical
Adam Curry: Russian way of getting rid of somebody. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: So I have two analysis clips. Is Ukraine
analysis one and two. Let's just play these and then we can talk
about it. Olga Robinson
Unknown: there, well, we can bring in Peter Dickinson now. He
is editor of Ukraine alert at the Atlantic Council Think Tank
is joining us this evening from Kyiv. Very good to have you with
us, Peter, once again. So I have to say we've not been hearing
that much from Ukrainian authorities specifically about
this. I did see one comment from one Ukrainian MP, of course, I'm
sure who you're very familiar with, Alexei concerenko, who
told the BBC that Ukraine was trying to take back military
initiative here. What do you make of what is happening?
Well, you're absolutely right. The Ukrainian authorities have
been very tight lipped about this whole affair. They've said
very little. President Zelensky has alluded to it in some of his
recent comments, but nothing specific, and certainly nothing
that would give a clear indication of what Ukraine's
ultimate intentions are, and that fits with a broader pattern
of surprise. The Ukrainians managed to plan this operation,
it seems to be a fairly sophisticated and complex
military offensive, and prepare it and plan it over a presumably
extended period without anybody, without anybody being aware of
these preparations. So certainly, the Russians were
taken by surprise. It would seem that Ukraine's western partners
were taken by surprise, and frankly speaking, most people in
Kyiv here were also taken by surprise. So they seem to have
achieved quite a remarkable success given the openness of
the battlefield these days, the sort of ubiquity of drones and
the sense, certainly in on the battlefield in east and south
Ukraine, that there is no real opportunity for secrecy here,
Ukraine has shown that they can still have they can still spring
a surprise.
Adam Curry: Valerie garyism off, who replaced Nicola Makarov and
currently serves as the commander of all Russian forces
in Ukraine, considered one of the most powerful men in Russia,
and one of three people to hold access to Russia's nuclear
weapons. That's the guy you're talking about could be.
John C Dvorak: Meanwhile, this report is from the BBC. Is kind
of weird, like it kind of confirms your
Adam Curry: leg or say cookie instead of weird.
John C Dvorak: Did I say weird? He
Adam Curry: just said, literally. Said weird.
John C Dvorak: Flag on I wish I you know I'm not as good as you
as turning this stuff off, but you have to keep hounding me. I
will trust me, kooky, uh, maybe that, you know what really gets
to me, to my you, gets that you had that submarine sound,
honking sound,
Unknown: yes, okay, put
John C Dvorak: it at the ready and just honked me when I do it.
Unknown: There you go, that one.
Adam Curry: Okay, all right, at the ready,
John C Dvorak: yeah, and that, of course, this annoys our
listeners, yeah, well, and producers, because it's like,
why are these guys so upset? Why are these guys preoccupied with
what they say?
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, it's a thing. It's
John C Dvorak: just a thing. We do this because we we do this
part of our part two,
Unknown: well, we'll talking about that surprise. I mean, we
did also hear that Washington was reportedly surprised by
this. And you know, I was at the NATO summit just a few weeks ago
there in Washington, DC, and there was this continued
conversation about using longer range missiles to strike
military targets deeper within Russia and many of the Baltic
leaders that I spoke to all for it, Washington didn't back it at
that stage. So I just wonder, what do you think some of these
Western military partners will be making of what we're seeing?
Well, I
think that's one of the big one of the big questions of this
operation, and perhaps also one of the reasons about. I have
this operation again, you're quite right to say that there
has been a lot of resistance from Ukraine's partners,
particularly the US and particularly Germany, about the
use of Western weapons in Russia against Russian targets within
Russia, and Ukraine has been pushing very strongly to have
those restrictions lifted, to have the right to be able to
attack, and Ukrainians have been very vocal saying they cannot be
expected to win a war whilst they're being asked to fight
essentially there with one hand, tight, mind, their backs. So
what we're seeing now with this very open and for the first
time, an actual direct invasion of Russia by the Ukrainian
military, is them saying, Well, you don't need to fear
escalation. You don't need to fear Russia's red lines, because
actually, Russia will not react in some dramatic fashion in
terms of escalation. There's nothing there. It's essentially
a bluff. So Ukraine is calling the
Adam Curry: bluff. Well, they did this. They didn't do this
with our necessarily, with our stuff. They did it with F 16.
They did it with drones, which is yay for Eric Schmidt.
John C Dvorak: I have no idea what's going on with this, and
maybe they did or didn't use our stuff, but they're not supposed
to use our stuff, not without permission. I don't know this is
going to develop into this is not a good thing. I don't think
i It's all we call their bluff. Okay, well, you don't know that.
What was the bluff that we're not going to do anything? It
just the whole thing makes no sense. It just seems like they
they had a plan to do something like this, and they did it to
prove they could do it. Was just meaningless. Yeah, all right,
yeah, that's all I got on Ukraine, okay,
Adam Curry: just on the military front. One of my one of our
dudes named Ben, checked in, um, CENTCOM Central Command, uh, has
some kind of cyber event going on. It's been going on
throughout the whole weekend, and even centcom.mil is
unresponsive, which is their their main website, and you
didn't hear about that anywhere else. No.
John C Dvorak: Could be Iran again? Could be Russia. Could be
Ukraine. I like a rod
Adam Curry: and I and, well, while we're on that, I have a
crowd strike, EULA, lawsuit update from, from Rob. Clown
strike, yeah. Clown strike, write that down. Yes. A clout,
you know, the boys, David boys, his they're, suing. Yeah, the
big boys, the big boys. Boys, big boys are suing. So delta,
you know, delta is really mad. They're saying, Hey, man,
because you guys, we lost a lot of money. But So Rob got a hold
of Delta's reply to crowd strikes response, which was sent
by David Boyce himself. And Rob says it's interesting because it
touches on the contractual limitations on damages that
crowd strike, or clown strike has cited. Boys has not yet
invoked the F word, meaning fraud, but he does allege,
quote, gross negligence and quote, willful misconduct. And
to support these allegations, he cites crowdstrikes own reports
when they came out with a very technical reason for what had
happened, as for fraud. He makes a not so veiled suggestion that
discovery will dislodge even more evidence. The letter speaks
of a second bug that made the problem even worse, and response
to crowdstrikes claim that delta caused its own troubles through
bad IT operations boys argues that Delta was just relying on
CrowdStrike and Microsoft, so they're estimating damages at
half a billion dollars. Yeah, yeah. So this EULA thing may
fall apart. This may be
John C Dvorak: Let's hope so. Wouldn't that be great?
Adam Curry: It would be
John C Dvorak: great if it actually falls apart, because
then it opens the door to what it does. It opens the door to
better quality products, amen, because right now, it uses the
all purpose excuse to make crap and sell it. And
Adam Curry: with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in clown
strike. Say hello to my friend and the other end, the one, the
only. Mr. Jones, the
John C Dvorak: morning to you. Mr. Adam crane, the morning
ship. See Bruce and knights out there. Hello. Chelsea.
Unknown: El Salvador.
Adam Curry: I didn't, I think I counted most of them. Oh, 2358
good troll count. We have more trolls in the troll room than
Kamala Harris has at one of her rallies. This is good way to go.
Trolls.
John C Dvorak: How many? I didn't get the number, 2358 for
Sunday. Yeah. Yeah, it's down 100
Adam Curry: it is down 100 but we're also at one hour and 40
minutes because you insisted upon doing Ukraine. And if
there's anything that scares troll, my fault, it's it's
Ukraine news. It's almost as bad as
Unknown: Africa.
Adam Curry: The trolls are in the troll room. You can join
them at troll room.io. We highly recommend that it's fun. We're
one of the few podcasts that have figured out this is the way
to do them. You do the show live. You have a, in essence, a
live studio audience, although much bigger than the phony
baloney Hollywood guys. And you can say, and you're interacting.
I'm reading what people are saying. Clip custodian sending
me links, you know, like, Oh, it's this guy from Russia. This
is this expands. We have producers. We have 2000 over
2000 producers who are on our ass throughout the entire show.
This is good. This is how it should be, because it's value
for value. Know what I'm saying. Everyone contributes. We also
recommend that use a modern podcast app to listen and be
alerted when we go live, or any of the shows that go live, no
agenda stream, they have a ton of live shows there, but there's
others as well. There's even a mastodon account, I think it's
at podcast live, or something. You can see, whenever a podcast
goes live, there's a lot, there's always somebody going
live. And you can be alerted in the podcast app, where you get
all your podcasts, we recommend you drop your legacy app,
because so many more features and with all the de platforming
that's going on three to four a day from Spotify and from Apple,
why don't you just keep listening to the podcast that
you want to and support them all through the modern podcast app.
Podcast apps.com value for value is still our model, although we
are desperately seeking an exit strategy. We got another note
from somebody who's, uh, who knows about the cable business,
and that wasn't quite so rosy as as as the previous one with the
spreadsheet. The thing that stuck out for me was, if you
guys are going to own cable, forget putting it out as a
podcast. They'll never go for it. You get those notes from
that producer? Yeah, I
Unknown: got them. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I don't know. Didn't, didn't sound this great.
They
John C Dvorak: were just Negative Nelly stuff. I mean,
you can say this about anything, any project you want to do,
you'll find some expert, and it's usually an expert, yes,
typically, we'll have a million reasons why it won't work, which
is, though, just it's a good sign,
Adam Curry: and we really know the reason why it won't work is
because we don't want to do any work, and that's why we're gonna
this. Will go, oh, yeah, we're doing this because Mimi wants
it. That's why we're gonna do this. It's gonna happen. We
don't have any advertising. It turns out, most podcasts don't
have advertising. Wall Street Journal ran a big article
saying, you know, all the money goes to the top, you know, the
top 1% of podcasts. I gotta say that's probably true, most of
the money, and even that, it's all down. It's down. You know,
their their CPMs are, they're down. And that's not even taking
into account inflation. You know, it's not good out there,
and by the way, it's not good on cable. It's not good anywhere.
You'd think we're in some kind of recession. John, what do you
think? What does the hair and hooker index say? Have you
checked recently?
John C Dvorak: Well, no, but there's been a number of
articles written about the use hair and hookers. They use hair
and strippers. Oh, well, and there's strippers. The stripper
count is different than hookers, because the hooker theory, you
can just look and you can see, with the strippers, they have to
actually ask the strippers. You have to ask them. And so the
hook, the hairs part, which you do, you have to ask the
hairdressers, and they'll tell you, Well, you know, people
aren't doing as much. And you have to ask the hookers, I'm
sorry, not the hookers, the strippers. You have to ask the
strippers or you get, are the tips as good as they used to be,
that's right. And the guy, she'll say, man, you know, maybe
not because you've been better, yeah. And what's your girl gonna
do? Have you called Raven recently?
Adam Curry: Have you checked in with Raven? Ravens,
John C Dvorak: she's down in Mexico, and so getting
Adam Curry: a butt lift.
Unknown: So
John C Dvorak: so we're not the only ones who noticed this, but
you know, it's hard to say. I mean, I get a lot of notes from
people saying, I know that you're bitching about the
donations being way down, but we're broke.
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's that absolutely well, I mean, an
entire tech network basically went out of business.
John C Dvorak: The other thing is, if you're broke, if you
bought a Starbucks coffee in the last month,
Adam Curry: yeah, are you that broke? Yeah, people make
choices, you know, well,
John C Dvorak: they should make the choice against the Starbucks
coffee and give send us if Yeah, what is it? What is one of those
coffee? Just nine bucks, $18
Adam Curry: I don't know it's very expensive these days.
That's okay. Well, the the model remains the same. If you want us
to stay then, then support us. It's that simple. It's that
simple. Now, for today, we have some people to thank in our
time, talents and treasure equation, because that's what it
is. Dame Kenny Benn came in with the artwork that we chose for
Episode 1684, titled that no guff, a nice throwback call back
to the old times, old timey language, no guff. And we didn't
find a lot of very inspiring art. And this was, yeah, I think
we both said, Yeah, this is good. And Dame Kenny Benn made a
very simple piece, but nice, nice font that she used kind of
a, what is this? A typewriter typewriter font? Is that? What
this is? Yes, one of the typewriter fonts, and she just
put words on there. Bizarre, quirky, wacky, kooky, no agenda.
Adam curry, John C Dvorak, functional. And, for my money,
very usable, because that was what was playing in everybody's
mind, this weird word with Tim waltz getting credited for it.
So it worked. It was spot on. Now, there were other things,
you
John C Dvorak: know, the thing is, I remember I was pushing for
package filtered, yes, you were from Sir Shug. I thought it
would be
Adam Curry: misunderstood. I
John C Dvorak: don't think you didn't like it at all. You hated
it. I
Adam Curry: didn't hate it. I
John C Dvorak: just said I pulled rank. And said, we're
gonna do bizarre, quirky, wacky cookie. I
Adam Curry: did not pull rank. You keep. This is a lie. It's a
string of lies. You keep. You keep stringing up. It's no good.
John C Dvorak: I eventually agreed that, you know that the
Well, there was a lot of we haven't done, we haven't done a
pure font or type true cover for years. We have not, and they,
they're very kind. This is a good it's, it's legit. So
Adam Curry: it was very legit. It was, it was super legit. It
was good. It was good. And I liked it. I liked it. Um, a lot
of AI, again, AI. I mean, it's just going down. There was a big
study that came out let me see, um, adverse impacts of revealing
the presence of artificial intelligence technology in
product and service descriptions on purchase intentions, colon
the mediating role of emotional trust and the moderating role of
perceived Risk. Synopsis, according to CNN. Brands should
avoid this popular term. It's turning off customers. So people
do according to the study, this is the journal of hospitality,
marketing and management, but they did have 5000 people in the
study. AI, is not a good thing to promoting your product. Take
that Apple iPhone, of course they they have Apple
intelligence, which is different,
John C Dvorak: but they can see this being a fact, it's annoying
to hear it all the time, constantly. Ai, this AI that,
you know, it's bogus, yeah,
Adam Curry: most of it isn't AI. It's just some algorithm or
something. Yeah, exactly, but people are turned off by it, so
no good. Good job. Tim Cook, see how that works out for you. And
of course, because this also sucks. I mean, most AI art just
is no good.
John C Dvorak: I like the AI art that came in that has a picture
of of it's called cuddly Timmy, and it's a bear
Adam Curry: came in today that that isn't by drop co
John C Dvorak: I think it came in before Today, because I saw
submitted,
Adam Curry: july 11. July 11. What? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: seems to be inaccurate.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think everything seems like it's July.
So I think it came in today, August 11.
John C Dvorak: That does seem well, whenever it came in. I'm
pretty sure I saw it yesterday or
Adam Curry: the day before, yeah, but not, not on a show.
Day. It wasn't, wasn't on a show. It wasn't. But whatever
the
John C Dvorak: case, I just like it because it looks like that
guy, Tim, the tampon. Tim, it looks like him and it's but it's
a cuddly teddy bear looking thing. I don't know what prompts
he did to get that to work, but I thought it was very funny
personally. And it's all AI
Adam Curry: well so far. I mean, by the way, artists, jury is
still out. I'm not, I'm not all in, like John is yet, and all I
see is AI stuff. More AI, stop it. Clip, custodian just did a
pixel. Mike, there's the anti AI art. Okay. I. Well, even prompt
jockeys are appreciated here. No agenda, Art generator.com,
everybody can everybody can participate. You can play along
while you're listening. You can see what people are uploading.
It's always fun to see what artists think is going to catch
our attention. I'm very anti AI. And when it comes to art, it
just all looks kind of the same. It's like, okay, and you can use
it as a good, as a tool, you can use it as a tool,
John C Dvorak: but it's just a bigot. You're bigoted. Yes, I
Adam Curry: am AI bigoted. A, i, b, I G, o, t, I am a, I bigot.
That's correct. So thank you very much. Dame Kenny Benn,
another fine Dutch master of the arts. Now, let's thank our
producers who came in with the treasure of the time, talent
treasure equation. Now, of course, we appreciate anyone who
gives up their Starbucks to support the show. You can do it
for every single episode. You can do sustaining. Donate
donations. Go to no agenda donations.com we do like to
highlight, just like Hollywood, our executive and Associate
Executive producers, that's why you get a credit. The credit is
usable anywhere. Credits are recognized your your LinkedIn
profile, you can use it there as something for your resume, or
even open an IMDB account if you don't have one and $200 above
gets you an Associate Executive Producer, we read your note,
$300 and above. Executive producer, and we read your note.
And am I reading this correctly? That sir cross threaded wheel
stud came in, then saved the week? Yeah, wow.
John C Dvorak: It's actually three. He considers this. And we
have to obviously credit three people. Three donations, yes,
three donations of 11, 111, 1.11,
Adam Curry: but if you, if you do a 333,
what is it? Three? This is a rebel as a donation,
John C Dvorak: 3333 33 rubbliser, yeah, India.
Unknown: Hang out. Mike,
standby, 3333
33 Rob Eliza, out.
Now, I
Adam Curry: don't know now, is He? Is this a new guy being
knighted as Sir cross threaded wheel stud, because I don't
believe so I don't remember this name. I'll read his note here,
which is pen. We have him on the List of United we do not. That's
why I'm questioning it. Ah, so Okay, there we have a conundrum.
Well, I mean, I don't have his name. He says, Well, here's
Okay, here's why I thought he should be on the list. ITM two
Switcheroos, 11111, 11111 for my sweet sister, Dame Cece. 1111111
for Reed hot, hotly Huntley, in honor of his late father, who
was my cousin and a help to them.
John C Dvorak: I can help to all.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay, help to all. Selfishly, I take credit
for 111111, please award me the title of Sir cross threaded
wheel stud. Thanks for sharing your insights. So I know he
needs to be knighted, okay, but I don't know his name, so we
just say congratulations. Well, he
John C Dvorak: does, since he didn't, I mean, it's on the
check, I can go get his name, but since he didn't put it on
his note, I assume that he wants not to be known by his name, but
by Sir cross wheel stud. Well,
Adam Curry: he will be knighted today, and I think appropriately
so. And we thank you very, very much. I'm gonna just throw out a
gratuitous karma for him. That's awesome.
Unknown: You've got karma.
John C Dvorak: Onward with Sir Victor in Corvallis, Oregon,
673, 71 with this donation of 640, plus fees, I'm upgrading
from Baronet to Baron, all right, and you're on the list
for the upgrade and my new title, Sir Victor, Sir Victor,
the Baron of the Willamette Valley in Corvallis Orion. Okay,
we got you.
Adam Curry: Thank you, Sir Victor, Sir Jack ash in
Snohomish, Washington, 388 dot 88 and this is a congratulations
for John and Mimi. ITM gents, congrats to John and Mimi. Very
respectfully, Sir Jack ash and we thank you, Sir Jack ash,
John C Dvorak: this one here blows up my spreadsheet. You
might want to take it, sir
Adam Curry: Matthew in Hanover, Pennsylvania, 333, 42 he says,
I've been a man overboard for too long. My last donation was
in 2017 please deduce me.
Unknown: You've been deduced. I have been
Adam Curry: back listening for the last six weeks or so, since
before the assassination attempt on Trump. With this being a
momentous year in my life, I'm requesting some various forms of
karma. Okay, on July 24 I turn. 40 july 29 I celebrated 18 years
of marriage to my wonderful wife. I also made my wife filet
John. Steak o Poivre with, oh, John's No, I also made my wife
filet John. I guess that's it. Steak, OK with roasted he
fileted you. She fileted you. I don't know. Steak. Or poi with
roasted sweet potatoes. Risotto. After a battle with our local
school district over the placement of my youngest son, we
got an autism support classroom open where they should already
have where they should already have had one after 15 years
working with my in laws as a financial advisor, we have begun
ownership transition so they can finally retire. A big hiring
karma please as we search for an additional license advisor to
help support our clients, thanks for all that you both continue
to do. Glad to be back at the table enjoying a nice old
fashioned Adam dealer's choice of jingles, please. That blows
out my spreadsheet too.
John C Dvorak: He says, the ones I put together for my knighthood
were a nightmare.
Adam Curry: Sir Matthew, a knight Since 2017 one of the
founding producers back in 2010 PS, in 2023 I was diagnosed with
celiac disease and ADHD. So that was fun. Unfortunately, I did
the moderna covid vaccine in 2020 which triggered the celiac
maybe, maybe anything is possible. Do you have a you have
a jingle that you'd like to play for him?
John C Dvorak: I think we've have, have not played the share
a secret jingle forever.
Adam Curry: Okay, okay, let's play the share secret jingle.
Oh,
Unknown: there's no winning. We don't like to foster a
competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot now. Everyone hug
and share a secret. Yeah,
Adam Curry: good choice. Enemy and a karma. You did need some
karma, but give him that you've got
Unknown: karma.
John C Dvorak: Onward with surfer. Pursuit of peace and
tranquility of three, three, 3.33. He sent a note. In keeping
it simple, ITM, he says, donation for August, 33333, love
the show. Please grant me the title of Viscount per accounting
below, and he's got all the accounting. Adam, please throw
in a penny to align my total donations with the universe.
There it is. No jingles, no karma. Sincerely, sir, pursuit
of peace and tranquility in the lands of red clay and cherry
trees beautiful, and he's got a lot of numbers that he's added
up.
Adam Curry: Hey, there's there's Jason rich. I know Jason rich,
he's a rancher. He's a good rancher. Called up in Colorado,
I want to say, let's read his note, 333, ITM gents, longtime
listener, second time donor, yes. Our regenerative ranching
business, which includes direct to consumer beef and hogs, one
of the founding members of the beef initiative, now also
includes agritourism, farm stays and are on farm store. Our
August and September bookings have fallen off, so we are
offering a 20% 20% discount to no agenda listeners with code
ITM 20 on our booking website, rich ranches. Dot, holiday
future.com that's W, R, I, C, H, R, a, n, C, H, E, S, rich
ranches. Dot holiday future.com, come visit western Colorado,
enjoy local food and wine. Shake your rancher's hand and support
a small, regenerative ranch. Thank you for your courage.
Jason and Theresa. Rich, Rick. He says Rick, I always pronounce
it rich, but I guess it's Rick. And he has you can also find him
on Airbnb. That's so nice. Thank you very much. Jason and I met
him at White Oak pastures in in Georgia, when I went down there,
nice guy. I'll give them both a karma.
Unknown: You've got karma.
John C Dvorak: We have another long note from anonymous in St
John's, Arizona. 202. I started listening to no agenda in 2017
is my fourth donation. I think the reason no agenda donations
are down is no agenda has a lot more competition from
independent Dissident Voices over the last couple of years,
thanks mainly to rumble and x and even YouTube, as they're
relaxing their censorship.
Adam Curry: Oh, please. YouTube is censoring people left and
right,
John C Dvorak: which gives, brings us to the bonus clip,
yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah. This was kind of a sad moment.
Unknown: Long time, Google,
Adam Curry: I got it. I'm sorry. I got it. Okay, one more time.
Let's just pretend we didn't do any
Unknown: of that. Long time Google executive and former
YouTube CEO Susan wojcick has died. She had lung cancer. She
played a key role in the success of Google, coming on as one of
the first employees after renting her garage to Google's
founders for almost a decade, wojcick was the head of YouTube,
which she had urged Google to acquire. Susan. Susan wojcick,
also a wife and mother of five, was 56 years old.
Adam Curry: 56 man. Lung cancer is the worst. My mom died
John C Dvorak: of lung cancer. Yeah, kind of a Turbo version.
Yes.
Adam Curry: It took, yeah. My mom was alive a lot longer than
Susan's sickness that went very, very fast. Turbo, gee. And she
really like censoring all of that misinformation about covid
and vaccines. Yep, don't want to say anything about it. Little
John C Dvorak: irony there. But yeah, it's not the time to speak
ill of the dead. No, no, sir. Um, that said no. Agenda is
still my go to source for reliable, independent
information. What's really going on in the world? You guys have a
serious you guys have serious competition these days, and
almost every other source I follow is utilizing value for
value, but all in all, you guys are still the best, okay,
however, value for value is spreading, and those of us are
willing to financially support quality work, we spread much
thinner than we were even two or three years ago. Well,
Adam Curry: hold on a second, it would be just dandy if everybody
had a sustaining donation. You can lower the amount, but
everyone spreads it out. That's a pipe dream, but that would be
good, but people don't do that. No,
John C Dvorak: I took Adam's advice and refused to have my
photo taken by TSA on a recent flight from Phoenix to Oakland,
I've already been photographed for their facial identity
database. However, the sneakiness of this program is
what caused me to refuse continued participation. The TSA
agent told me no problem and just made sure my ID matched my
boarding pass. However, when I went through the hands up. Don't
shoot computer screening. I was flagged for suspicious items in
both my crotch and buttocks area. Hey, what's that? Patted
down like a criminal. I complained to TSA supervisors,
but to no avail. Good luck. The flight was then delayed. In my
honest opinion, due to my non compliance, I have good reason
to believe TSA was reviewing the video from my encounter, trying
to determine if they had reason to ban me from my flight.
Eventually, they cleared the flight for boarding, and I was
able to board without incident, although I had, it's a chilling
effect, by the way, without incident, although I had airline
personnel giving me suspicious looks during the process, What's
Adam Curry: that in your crotch?
John C Dvorak: My father grew up in El Cerrito. We took the ride
there. During my trip to the bear, I talked about John and
Adam with my parents many times, jokingly, acting like I actually
knew you guys. Obviously I don't, but sometimes it feels
that way from being a long time listen to the podcast. Oh yeah.
And he says I was disappointed I missed the Bay Area meetup and
half jokingly told my parents that we should try to find
John's house and stop by. Yeah, I'm sure John would be happy to
hear that my parents talked me out of this.
Adam Curry: What are you packing? Anonymous? Anyway.
Thank you very much. Dan Richmond, Al Kuwa, altua,
Florida.
John C Dvorak: Been a while. Ella, Ella
Adam Curry: Alachua, there you go. Thank you for something like
that. $200.66 been a while, guys, please deduce you've been
deduced. Adam, you were in the recent Bon Jovi documentary on
Hulu, filmed in two 2022 to 2023 Yes, hopefully. I was credited
as VJ emeritus. It featured Jon Bon Jovi constantly surrounded
by masked servants. Not only that, he's also lost his voice
and his mind. Sad, yeah, if you just go on YouTube and look for
Jon, Bon Jovi lost his voice. Oh, man. I
John C Dvorak: mean, happened? Oh,
Adam Curry: he can't sing anymore. He can't he can't hit
the notes. Did
John C Dvorak: he blow his vocal cords out from the screaming?
Adam Curry: I think so. I mean, he just can't. It was a
Unknown: living on a prayer. He's like, Oh,
Adam Curry: it's no good. Everyone, everyone in South
Jersey is talking about it. Hey, man, Johnny lost. His voice is
set when you're a singer. That sucks. Yeah, I would think
John C Dvorak: that really does. Boys put a lot of strain on his
voice, but it could happen. PG, Kelly's next on the list. He's
in Los Angeles, California, 200 bucks, Adam John and the rest of
the no agenda. Listeners, I come to you in great need. Many of
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fund Linda's extensive medical records review, and it's, I
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Adam Curry: Give, send, go, yeah, it's the Christian
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John C Dvorak: send to go justice for Linda with a Y, uh,
prayers are welcome. Bless you all. PG, Kelly. PG,
Adam Curry: he's been listening to the show, I think from the
from Show, episode number one, he's been around, been around
for a long, long time. All right. All right, brother. We
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for Linda with a Y. And there's another Linda John. You might as
well, uh, Linda
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
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1685,
Unknown: formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth.
Adam Curry: Shut up. I have a
John C Dvorak: couple of clips that probably liven things up.
Okay, it's about deep fake porn.
Unknown: Well, it's about time.
Adam Curry: So, whereas we like to say Veep fake,
John C Dvorak: and so here we go. There's a four parter. This
is from PBS.
Adam Curry: What a four parter on PBS?
Unknown: Yeah, PBS. Wow. Who expected that?
John C Dvorak: That's fake porn. PBS is the first clip sexual
Unknown: images posted online without one's consent have long
been a problem, starting with revenge porn, but deep fake and
AI technology's ability to manipulate photos and even
videos has made things worse. Even Taylor Swift has been a
victim of AI generated sexual now, Google has announced new
steps to combat sexually explicit deep fakes in their
search results, but there is no one size fits all solution for
this complex problem. Paresh. Dave is a senior writer at Wired
who's been reporting on all of this and joins us now. Paresh,
thank you so much for joining us. How quickly have we seen the
rise of non consensual sexual images online, and what is
driving this?
I mean, it's huge. It's a huge problem. The doubling of these
reports over the last couple of years is what we've been seeing
in places like the UK and the US, and it's in part driven by
those deep fakes that you were talking about.
It is also driven in part by the porn industry, right? And this
is all part of the porn economy. Now. People are paying to
download images and videos of this nature,
the non consensual nature, yes, but I would draw a distinction
between porn and this non consensual image based sexual
abuse, which is not considered porn. You know, porn is
generally viewed as more consensual. Now
Adam Curry: I just want to say one of our producers, Eric
pepper, decided he was going to send me every single back issue.
You of Wired magazine that he possesses, which has been quite
tedious. I go to the PO Box, and the guy comes out with, like,
what is this? Comes out with a trolley, and Wired Magazine has
been wrong on just about every single cover they have ever
published. Seriously, the web is dead. This machine will change.
The world
John C Dvorak: is dead. One pill should you should take shots at
some of these covers and put together a compendium to to
prove this point of yours that you're making? Well,
Adam Curry: there's a lot of AI stuff from 2002
John C Dvorak: that was the, yeah, okay.
Adam Curry: I mean, it's all, it's all. Everything they've
done is wrong. So, okay, let's hear about, let's hear
John C Dvorak: what the well, that doesn't mean that this
guy's off. I actually was skeptical of this character
because he came from Wired, but then at the same time, he's
actually making some decent points. Okay, he's It's okay.
It's okay.
Adam Curry: Well, this, it's not a cover, it's a PBS special.
Unknown: Yeah. Thank you. According to the company
sensitive, 96% of deep fakes are sexually explicit and feature
women who didn't consent to the creation of the content, who is
most vulnerable to being victimized in this way,
everyone. There's been recent surveys that have shown it's
men. You know, it's young boys. There's a huge trend of
sextortion that's been happening. It's anyone that has
their photo on the internet, which at this point is pretty
much all of us.
Google has said purash That it will reduce the prominence and
relevance of deep fake images in its searches that addresses deep
fakes, but what about actual images that are used without
consent? Does Google go far enough to address those victims?
So Google already takes those measures that you described that
they've just recently applied to deep fakes, but what it reported
recently is that the key issue here is that there are numerous
ideas on the table that Google could adopt to reduce the burden
on victims of image based sexual abuse. These are ideas proposed
by survivors, their advocates, even employees within Google.
And Google has just refused to adopt these ideas, in part
because they're worried about over censorship, in part because
they're worried is coming off as too much of a regulator of the
internet. But there are some basic ideas here that is just
unfathomable. Why they haven't pursued them.
Adam Curry: Well, if Google does that, I'd say time to short your
alphabet stock. Who wants to use them now? No, good.
John C Dvorak: Well, like you said, you had them done Jack,
no,
Adam Curry: the but they they're threatening.
Unknown: Part three, you use this term, image based sexual
abuse. Can you describe some of what happens to victims who find
themselves in this situation? Yeah.
I mean, it's people who might send an image consensually. You
know that they've taken themselves a selfie, and then
they've shared it with a friend, and then you know that friend
has seeking revenge. Something goes wrong in that relationship.
They posted online. This could be surreptitious recordings of
people. There's a number of ways someone could be, you know,
suffering from this issue. And then the big issue is then they
have to go to the place where they were traumatized, go to the
internet and find all these images, try to get it taken
down. It's a lot of burden on the actual victims or survivors
here to get rid of all this material from the internet, and
it takes years and years sometimes, well, that's
something that all of us, parents deal with and we talk to
our children. If your photo shows up on online, it could be
there forever. How difficult is the process for victims to take
this stuff down, and how willing are the technology companies to
meet victims halfway and help them? One
of the things that's remarkable here is that there's a whole
cottage industry of companies that have popped up, charging
sometimes 1000s of dollars, you know, per sort of project or
initiative to help victims get their images taken down. So this
problem is so bad that there's like an economy that has been
created around it, and these companies help the victims find
the images. They even use AI to automatically find the images as
they pop up, immediately, send take down notices. But it is but
it is a pain. Sometimes companies will ask for identity
verification, so you have to send them your ID, or they might
question whether it was actually, you know, non
consensual. You know, maybe you've been an only fans
creator, and then you have, you know, images of yourself leaked
online. You know, Google. My question, Well, are you still
commercializing those images? It's a whole mess that these
survivors have to go through. Sounds
Adam Curry: to me like this guy is an only fans creator,
John C Dvorak: that's. Finish it up, besides
Unknown: tech companies, who else can be addressing this
problem? Is this a law enforcement and regulatory
policy problem as well?
Absolutely. One of the things that I heard consistently from
employees at Google and reporting my story was that, why
aren't law enforcement doing more to go after the criminals.
Why haven't we criminalized work to do more of this behavior
across the country? There's, you know, most states have
criminalized aspects of this, but there's certainly not enough
effort from law enforcement to go after the underlying
criminals, in part because, you know, sometimes they may be
overseas, or even when they are brought to justice, you can't
actually maybe get them in jail or get them to pay up the
damages that they're supposed to that
is Paresh devay, a senior editor at Wired, joining us. Thanks so
much, Paresh. Gosh,
Adam Curry: I'd hope there'd be some kind of big payoff on that
one.
John C Dvorak: No, it was just a flop. It was a dud, like it
ended off it the cops didn't do anything. And there's you're
gonna take years to get rid. It sounds like a, like a ridiculous
situation that probably wouldn't exist at the porn laws. In fact,
in general, if there were, were a little more, I'd say it's like
they were in the 50s.
Adam Curry: Oh, is that's what you want a very popular stance.
It's not
John C Dvorak: popular and it's not what I want. I'm just saying
that that would solve the problem. Let me
Adam Curry: do a couple other AI stories I have to the first one
is in your backyard, new at 11.
Unknown: They say their neighbors are too noisy, only
the new neighbors aren't people. They're way more cars honking in
a parking lot, and neighbors say it's keeping them up all night.
NBC Bay Area's Alyssa Gord shows us what they're seeing, and
hearing that sound honking
is waking up neighbors lately, in this South of Market
neighborhood, I
get woken up at, you know, four o'clock in the morning, and I
look down and I'm convinced now it is coming from the way most
neighbors
shared videos of driverless Waymo cars filing into the lot
and backing into spots, which appears to trigger honking from
the other way, most the cars
are robotic, and they're honking at each other, and there's no
one in the cars when it's happening. And that's absurd.
That I think is the most frustrating thing apart about
this is that there's just nobody to talk to, and even at the
corporate level, I'm finding it difficult, not impossible.
Neighbors say they've reported this to Waymo and are now taking
to social media to get the company's attention. In a
statement, Waymo says it's aware its cars may briefly honk while
navigating its parking lots way more, says it has identified the
cause and is in the process of implementing a fix. But these
residents say they want to see a more neighborly response from
the new autonomous vehicle company on the block.
We love having them there. We just would like them to stop
honking their horn at four in the morning repeatedly.
John C Dvorak: You make a story that went by. I'm here and I
haven't heard this story. It's great. Well, if
Adam Curry: you heard the honking, you'd be all over it.
Imagine that the honk, and you're right. It's like Furbies.
Unknown: Me,
Adam Curry: I found this to be quite interesting. JP, Morgan,
who doesn't know him is now deploying AI chat bots and
knowledge llms across all of their 60,000 employees. You
Unknown: recall back in April JP Morgan, CEO Jamie diamond, said
that generative AI was, in his opinion, going to be as
potentially significant as the advent of things like
electricity and the internet, and then it would ultimately be
sort of a coach sitting on every employee's desk, sort of helping
them out, helping him write emails, generate reports, do
research, things like that. And now we have an idea of what he
was really talking about. So they rolled out about to about
60,000 employees, and ultimately, I believe, hope to
have it really ubiquitous within the bank, a program called LLM
suite. And LLM suite is essentially their front end,
their wrapper, their portal into large language models of open
AI, which is the, you know, the LLM behind chat, GPT, and
ultimately will be the LLM behind several other models will
be a port of several other models of LMS, and so this is
essentially going to be sitting on JP Morgan employees desks,
and it's going to be helping them do cognitive tasks. And is
really kind of a surprising Advent for this technology.
Andrew, Oh, well.
Adam Curry: So this was CNBC, and which I like it when they do
send negative stories. There wasn't really that negative, but
Andrew Ross Sorkin did ask an intelligent question. You know,
ever since the I know, ever since the deregulation of the
banks, you know, you can both be a bank and an investment bank,
and they're supposed to. Be the HERE IT COMES Chinese wall.
Remember that John the Chinese wall? Yeah, the old
John C Dvorak: Chinese wall. What was the Chinese wall
supposed to separate one thing from another so they don't
interact? Well,
Adam Curry: how does that work? In this case, you recall,
Unknown: last year, they actually banned, they restricted
chat GPT from employee use, and that's because they really
didn't want to expose their proprietary JP Morgan data to
the models and train the models of open AI, so they're
containerizing their data, and this is an ability for them to
use the data of JP Morgan without exposing it to the
outside world. But, yeah, they're going to be able to use
it to do research, to do sort of,
right, but I'm saying but, but I must. I'm assuming there's going
to be an even more Chinese walls inside. I mean, they're gonna
have to containerize control parts of this. So, you know, the
folks in the wealth management business can't be searching
stuff that would exist in the banking business, the bankers
shouldn't be searching stuff, yeah, from the analysts, right?
Like, how does this all work? I would assume that's right,
Andrew, that there are specific rules and obviously walls
between the different parts of the business. You wouldn't want,
you know, for instance, in wealth management folks to get
potential data access from the investment bank, for instance.
And you know, they really took, I mean, it took them about a
year to create this portal, and I think it's really because they
want to do it in a way that was data secure. Andrew, yeah, data
Adam Curry: secure, containerized. Please. Doubt it.
What could possibly go wrong? Well, short, but also,
John C Dvorak: there's a Chinese wall or not, I'd like to have
some rationale for this, for the Chinese wall, I'm no, I mean,
they've deregulated the banks, so they can do all these
different things. They can be insurance companies, they can be
investment bankers, they can be venture capitalists, they can be
banks, actual banks. They can do all these things. So what if
they interact with each other? I
Adam Curry: just want to go into that LLM and say, how much did
Jamie diamond pay Epstein? Show me that, show me that do
John C Dvorak: the LLM and exploit its knowledge base? Yes,
Adam Curry: only if it's containerized, though. So since
we're in big tech, AI, the socials, we must go to the
United Kingdom, still in chaos. Oh,
John C Dvorak: do I have any clips on this? I
Adam Curry: have clips. I have a couple of good ones. I think the
first one is I have one now. But let's put first. I'll put a
little bit of, little bit of parameters around what's going
on here. So there is, you know, this talk of, we're, you know,
we're arresting anybody who does something wrong online. And I do
have a copy of the the Online Safety Act, which, now, this was
passed in 2023, it's still kind of being implemented, but it
puts new duties on tech firms to protect their users from illegal
content, which, under the Act can include content involving
hatred, disorder, provoking violence, or certain instances
of disinformation In the riots that have taken place in the UK
since the three little girls were stabbed at the Taylor Swift
uh dance a THON, more than 700 or actually, 741 arrests have
been made. How many of those do you think relate to online
offenses? Which seems to be the only thing I read about on X
news social
John C Dvorak: This is the question for me. Yes, I'd say
100 not even 32
Adam Curry: Oh, curry two. But here, here is the here's some
honcho saying we're coming after you. We will
Unknown: throw the full force of the law of people. And whether
you're in this country, committing crimes on the streets
or committing crimes from further afield online, we will
come after you talk
to me about that, because we have seen some high profile
figures whipping up the hatred you talked about it in there
with the officers, in fact, about this being added to by
online commentary. I mean, I'm even thinking of the likes of
Elon Musk getting involved. What are you considering when it
comes to dealing with people who are whipping up this kind of
behavior from behind a keyboard and maybe in a different
country, keyboard
warriors. Being a keyboard warrior does not make you safe
from the law. You can be guilty of offenses, of incitement, of
stirring up racial hatred. There are numerous terrorist offenses
regarding the publishing of material, all of those offenses
are in play if people are provoking hatred and violence on
the streets, and we will come after those individuals, just as
we will physically confront on the streets the thugs and the
jobs who are taking who are causing the problems for
communities.
Adam Curry: Now I really like how this has played out online,
and I. Really only have x and Mastodon because it's always
CAPTIONED BY they're going to extradite Americans? I don't
think so. But I would say if you're posting on x, if you're
posting Hey, go and kick those immigrants ass, you probably
should not visit the UK. Here is an example of someone being
convicted to 20 months for an online crime
Unknown: you have been committed for sentence having pleaded
guilty to an offense of publishing written material
which is threatening, abusive or insulting, intending thereby to
stir up racial hatred. The context of your offending is
that it arises out of the civil unrest and disorder in many
parts of the United Kingdom on the night of the second and
third of August, the Britannia hotel in Leeds was attacked by
people who threw missiles, missiles which damaged windows.
At the time, there were 210 occupants, many of whom were
foreign refugees and asylum seekers, you took to social
media in order to encourage others towards participation in
the attacks upon the hotel as is recognized on your behalf, this
offense is so serious that an Immediate custodial sentence is
unavoidable. Would you stand please? The sentence that I pass
has been reduced by 1/3 to reflect your guilty plea. The
sentence is one of 20 months imprisonment.
John C Dvorak: Now I you know, this is the clip. Do you never
see the guy? Correct, and there's no background. You don't
see anybody, but this guy. I think this is staged. Could be,
that could be, but that does seem I saw this clip. I said
this is phony. There's some phony about this clip could
Adam Curry: be. There may be some specific rules about what
you can film and what angle you can film, but I just like to say
so there's a lot of people that we have, a lot of keyboard
warriors in America. I'd be like, Oh yeah, come and take it.
Come on. Take
Unknown: it. Lie me. We
Adam Curry: kicked you. We already did this. We tried it.
You came to Jim. We kicked you out. We killed you. I will
remind everybody that if it were, if it had not switched to
the immunity, President Trump might actually be in some
trouble, because even in the United States, there are some
limitations to your freedom of speech. You can't I mean
inciting a riot or an erection, as everyone said, meaning
insurrection. There are some limitations around what you can
do. Am I correct in saying that? John, just wanna make sure I'm
correct. I don't know that you are, isn't it? You can't yell
fire in a crowded theater.
John C Dvorak: They always say that, but where's the law
against it?
Adam Curry: I don't know. That's why I'm asking.
John C Dvorak: So as far as I'm concerned, you can say fire in a
theater, and maybe you might get beat up, which is appropriate,
Adam Curry: very appropriate. But it seems like this is, this
has just become a, I mean, literally, Twitter slash x is,
is now all this, and I've tried to get out of the algo hole, and
it's just all this. It's just all of, oh my God, and, and the
way that's playing out in the UK is they're using it to come
after people Nigel Farage is one. I
Unknown: did more. I did more to get rid of the BNP as a
political force in Britain than anybody else in the country.
Amplified this misinformation, I said, suggest, give us clarity.
You didn't just say that, though, Nigel I did. Also said
the internet was awash with all sorts of theories, all of which
proved to be unfounded, yes, but that's what led to the riots in
Southport. But you indulged in those theories. I've still been
told whether this person was on a list or not. I don't know the
answer that one. Do you know? I don't know, but this legitimate.
You think we deserve to know? I absolutely. I think at least my
question is valid, but not in a way that you put it, because you
know what you're doing. You suggested some reports suggest
that he was known to the security service, that they came
on in a boat, that he was an asylum seeker. That's not true.
And I didn't know my question. Did you know that I was getting
true? I don't know now whether this man was no promoting those
reports because I want to know the truth. I wanted to know it
then, and I want to know it now.
John C Dvorak: So he What the hell crappy show was that where
they talk all over each other, oh,
Adam Curry: that's LBC. That's where, that's where it's all
playing out on LBC. But it really seems like they want us.
They want to, they want to get some. They want a guy, and that
guy is Tommy Robinson.
Unknown: Tommy Robinson, a man who has been staring up anti
Muslim hatred online for decades, is back in the
spotlight, accused of influencing the worst riots
Britain has seen in over a decade by spreading anti Muslim
disinformation to his 900,000 followers on apps,
so before people get on quick and condemn the Angry Men that
anger is justified.
So who is Tommy Robinson? Tommy Robinson, whose real name is
Steven yatse Lennon, is a well known anti Muslim far right
figure in the UK. Co founded the English Defense League, an anti
Muslim organization in 2009 Robinson's anti Muslim
activities heightened a few years later when grooming gang
scandals in towns across England rocked the UK. Robinson took
Alliance from Islamic scriptures to suggest on street grooming as
a uniquely Muslim issue. Twitter banned Robinson in 2018 and meta
followed suit a year later for his anti Muslim posts under Elon
Musk's Twitter takeover, Robinson's account was
reinstated in late 2023 over the years, Robinson has raised
millions of pounds in donations from followers. A guardian
investigation in 2018 found that he also receives financial,
political and moral support from foreign groups and individuals,
including us, think tanks, right wing Australians and Russian
trolls. Where is Tommy Robinson now? Robinson has been abroad
since 28 July. He left the UK on the eve of a court hearing over
contempt of court proceedings. He has since been supported on a
luxury resort on Greek administered southern Cyprus.
Now with far right violence causing disorder across the UK
and arrests underway, many are asking what will happen to Tommy
Robinson. Well,
Adam Curry: they want him. They want Him, for sure. They want
him. By the way, there's only one case case law in first
amendment that I can find it's Brandenburg versus Ohio, a from
1969 landmark decision of the United States Supreme Court
interpreting the First Amendment to the US Constitution. The
Court held that government cannot punish inflammatory
speech unless that speech is quote, directed to inciting or
producing imminent lawless action, and is likely to incite
or produce such action which seems iffy,
John C Dvorak: well, that precludes a yelling fire in a
crowded theater.
Unknown: Yes, yes, that, which is very old,
John C Dvorak: just kind of accepted. I think it's, it's
just one of those agreed, you agree, right?
Adam Curry: So if you're online and you're saying, hey, go beat
up some some immigrants, that could be a pro. If there's a
riot underway, that could be a problem. It's just interesting
to see. What's happening in general is just, it's like, wow,
all the keyboard warriors are out, and the memes are
hilarious, of course. And yeah, this will get you locked up for
20 months in the UK. Okay, great memes, everybody. So I think
they'll, they'll calm this down. The mainstream has already, man,
the front pages for the eighth of August was all the same
picture. Then the UK, they always do, they do this nightly.
Say, here's all the papers for tomorrow, and they show you the
front pages, all the same, with people saying, United Britain
stands firm against thugs and yobs. 1000s take to the streets
to counter threat from far right. And there it is. We've
always said that this was about the far right.
John C Dvorak: I have an NPR clip from this UK called UK odd
report. It's only 17 seconds
Unknown: across the United Kingdom Today, 1000s of people
turned out for anti racist rallies after anti immigration
riots took place this week following the stabbing deaths of
several children in a seaside town in London, people gathered
outside the right wing reform UK parties headquarters.
Adam Curry: It is now blaming the blame for eyes, yes. Far
Right,
John C Dvorak: that's it very subtle.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Far Right. We've been tracking this for
months, yet, years. Far Right. Far Right, every far right. It
has now emerged that the government in London has started
flagging content it deems to be misinformation, but also
something referred to as concerning content. X is among
those who have been asked to remove posts which British
officials consider to threaten the country's national security,
and while reports say Google, meta and Tiktok are complying
with these demands, x is said to be resisting them. That's right.
Elon free speech. The accusations that social sites
John C Dvorak: because they don't have enough people, it's
like, oh brother, we have to do what?
Adam Curry: Yeah, get it. The accusations that social sites
are providing a platform for hate while allegingly
unaccountable for that, is, while allegedly unaccountable
for that, what is coming from Cabinet members and MPs alike.
Well, sentence structure, yeah, not good. But the bottom line
is, I'm all for x being a free for all. Do whatever you want.
Although I see zero posts or anything from the left, I think
they've all, Oh, don't.
Unknown: Oh, please. I
Adam Curry: haven't seen it.
John C Dvorak: Go find the Michael Hayden threads, and then
just go down the line again and click on any of those people
that are Yeah, you're right. Michael, yeah. Trump sucks.
Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, wait, but wait, wait, that's freedom
of speech, not freedom of reach. Is not popping up, is my point?
Well,
John C Dvorak: not Yeah, because you've already been the elgos
have defined you, I guess, and they're not going to give you
that stuff, right? You have to go seek it. Yeah, you can find
it as tons of I mean,
Adam Curry: you can find porn on X too, if you go seek it. I
mean, it's all, yes, you
John C Dvorak: can, oh, really mediocre porn. It's usually a
link, not that I know.
Adam Curry: Um, but please. You know, the the Garm lawsuit, and
you know advert, you know, don't expect advertisers to show up.
You know, what was that all about? Seriously, if I mean
freedom of speech and advertising. They're
perpendicular. Advertising is always censorship, if only for
the product, for the competing product. You know what I mean?
John C Dvorak: It's like, we're we're advertising is an
anathema. Is the word you're looking for, anathema. Thank
you. I mean anathema to free speech. Well, by the way, where
you want balls. You're not gonna it's really gonna be tough. Yes,
Adam Curry: where was Eli, the coffee guy today missing?
John C Dvorak: I didn't see him missing and show up
Adam Curry: So, but, but, you know, we talk about, I talk
about black rifle, I talk about other kinds of coffee. Because
he's not advertising. He's mentioning his code. Maybe
that's why he didn't send a donation today. I don't know
John C Dvorak: well, because you mentioned something, I don't
remember you plugging some other coffee. Plug other coffee. You
get so much free stuff from Eli, because I can't drink it fast
enough,
Adam Curry: because I, because I like black rifle. I like black
rifle. Tina has had his, uh, decaffeine. But my point is,
John C Dvorak: oh, it's decaffeinated, yeah. My point
is, what's the point?
Adam Curry: You can't, you can't be yelling at like, oh,
advertisers. But I know what's happening. I know what the plan
is, and it's, it's interesting, because that lawsuit was not
just Elon against Garm, the advert the Federation of world
advertisers rating system, which has apparently folded, was like
two guys, probably most likely, but it was also rum, RUMBLE,
RUMBLE, RUMBLE. It
John C Dvorak: could be rumble. It could be bitch, you
Adam Curry: know, it was rumble. And what Rumble is now doing is
they are going after advertisers who won't advertise. So they're
making this, that's the old way of doing things. Yep, they're
saying, hey, Dunkin Donuts, you don't want to advertise. We're
gonna that's the, you know,
John C Dvorak: publishing model, by the way, people don't want to
realize it, but that is the old model. It goes way back into the
20s and 30s, especially in the newspaper business, where they,
you know, it would take over some city that two or three
newspapers are competing, but they'd all want these, like
Macy's to average. Where's your Macy's advertising? I could be
you guys aren't ever you know this. This is the type of sales,
a different kind of sales. You go in and say, Hey, you guys
didn't advertise in the newspaper The last Sunday paper.
You know, you got a big sale coming up. How come you didn't
advertise? Well, you know, we really can't afford, oh, really,
I don't think you can afford not to advertise unless you want us
to roll out this, this scandalous news about how you're
treating your employees. Yeah,
Adam Curry: exactly. What's that in your mouth? Duncan.
John C Dvorak: So that's the way it used to be. Now they're so
passive. Well, you wonder why they went out of business all
these newspapers. They don't have any many balls anymore.
Well,
Adam Curry: it could be changing. Could be changing, and
that's what Rumble is doing. Rumble is
John C Dvorak: got the right idea. That is the old fashioned.
It sounds corrupt because it is, but it's the old way of doing
things.
Adam Curry: It works. It works? No, yeah, so. But in general, I
mean, don't expect a lot of advertisers be lining up your
door if you tell them to go F themselves. And you have,
John C Dvorak: I know you guys, you have. Yourselves. Okay, all
right, good. We're out of here.
Adam Curry: Quick update on this, since everyone wants to
know, and I am the aviator, the airman on duty Brazilian
Unknown: airline VoIP pass has confirmed that all 61 passengers
and crew were killed when one of its planes crashed in Sao, Paulo
state. The ATR, 72 aircraft went down in a residential area in
the city of vinedo, around 80 kilometers north of Sao Paulo
city. Social media videos show the aircraft tumbling out of the
sky, as you can see here, authorities say they found the
black box and are working to determine the cause of the
crash.
Adam Curry: So the news this morning is on x of course, there
were six cancer doctors on that plane. It was taken down.
John C Dvorak: Well, I want to hear you. I was going to send
you a note, because they, they, I saw it. A couple of the videos
are pretty spectacular because it shows the plan in a flat
spin, flat well, which is like, Oh, there you go. You're not,
you're nice surviving this, no, but it was like, I looked up the
ATR 72 and it has, on the wiki page, has all the list of all
the accidents it's ever had, yep, and 90% of all the
accidents has ever had was icing issues. They I guess the plane
ice is up really easy, and then it craps out.
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's so there's two things this, I
believe this was icing. There were severe icing conditions at
17,000 feet, where they were, where they were flying. And all
turbo props always have to be aware of icing conditions,
particularly tea tail, which is what the ATR is. And there's a
the things you have to do to get out of icing. The first thing
is, you immediately have to reduce your engines. And from
what I could tell, that's just, from what I could hear, didn't
sound like they did that until they're almost down at the
ground. So it might have been inexperienced or poor training.
But this was nothing more than very an icing, August, Brazil,
southern hemisphere, you bet, very unfortunate day record for
sure, but not some kind of hit job on cancer scientists. It was
icing and and I think, I think it was also the, remember that
plane crashed with the one of the wives of the 911 victims who
was making a big deal about stuff, and then that plane
crashed, that was also icing. And if you remember that, we
followed that for a while, I don't remember. It's always
like, well, who was on the plane? Now this is when you're
in that flat spin, no, there's, there's no recovery, pretty
much, not in that kind of aircraft. So that's an aircraft
to avoid, if you can.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, if you look at the wiki page for that
aircraft, there's a lot they has a lot of issues, very although
there's lots of these planes out there too. So it would be
unfair, but it's, it's always icing. Yeah,
Adam Curry: the the Dutch city Hopper, a lot of those planes
are like that, so be careful of icing. Now on the cancer tip, oh
boy. What? What could this be? Diseases
Unknown: of all sorts become more common as we get older, but
now a new study shows Millennials are at higher risk
of developing certain cancers compared to Baby Boomers, and
what doctors say could be driving that increase, I
would never have thought of anything seriously wrong with me
at all being so young. Briana
Dillman was 41 healthy, a busy working mom. Dillman couldn't
believe she had colorectal cancer, but researchers say
there's growing evidence younger people are more likely to
develop certain cancers than their parents. What
we want to understand now is, why are these individuals not
only being diagnosed with cancer at young ages, but why are they
also facing poor outcomes than the generations before
them? Miranda
Fiddler benutia is a research scientist at the University of
Calgary. She worked with the American Cancer Society on a
study that found in the US, 17 of 34 cancers are being
diagnosed more often in younger adults. Fiddler benudia says the
risk of developing some of them, including small intestine,
kidney and pancreatic cancer, were two to three times greater
for millennials born around 1990 compared to Baby Boomers. And
then
we also found for some of these cancers that mortality was also
increasing in these younger people. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I'm just gonna say it, because come on now, come
on. The number one group who wanted to go out during covid.
What was the requirement, gee, did they take that into
consideration in this survey, this test, this puzzling, so
puzzling overall
Unknown: death rates from cancer have been dropping, but the
American study found there was a higher risk of death for young
people with certain cancers, including endometrial,
testicular and colorectal cancer. Cancer. We don't
want to freak people out. It's not these are still very low
numbers overall. Thank you. Dr Shadi
ashmallah is a cancer surgeon in Toronto, while the new study is
American, he says cancer cases are rising in younger Canadians
too. His hospital, Sunnybrook, opened the first colorectal
clinic for younger adults. Dr ashimala says more can be done.
So we're actually
winning in the population over 50 and those colorectal cancer
rates are going down in populations that we're
screening. And so screening is absolutely the key.
Check in with your body when something doesn't feel right,
seek advice from your doctor. Briana
Dillman was a patient at Sunnybrook Hospital now 46 she's
thankful her cancer was caught early. I'm
so grateful to my doctor, who did not brush this away. Doctors
say it's not entirely clear what's driving the increase in
cases, but 10 of the 17 cancers rising in younger adults are
obesity related. Scientists suspect changes in diet more
sedentary lifestyles and early exposure to environmental
chemicals could be factors.
Adam Curry: Yes, of course. Of course, they could be factor. Of
course they could be factors. I am gonna
John C Dvorak: be a factor. At least mention the vaccine. Why
don't they do that? Come on. Well,
Adam Curry: now let's go to San Francisco, because there's
another I mean, it looks like they've cracked the case.
They've cracked the case of severe illness in kids.
Unknown: It was 2020 and Doctor Aaron bodansky kept seeing a
high number of children coming into the ICU with a mysterious
inflammatory disease.
They had severe inflammation of all of their bodies, but in
particular their lungs and really their hearts. Turns
out, this was happening to children across the world, and
no one knew why the illness came to be known as multi system
inflammatory syndrome in children.
Adam Curry: What could have happened across the world that
that affects all these children? It's so baffling or
Unknown: mis C
The only thing we knew was that they had previously had a SARS
covid, two infection
as cases intensified, doctors suspected the severe
inflammation was connected to the immune system to keep
children alive. Medical personnel acted on that hunch.
We
use medicines to suppress and calm their immune system, which
thankfully worked extremely well to save their lives. This has
been a puzzle that researchers and clinicians across the
country and in fact, across the world, have tried to figure out,
and yet it is alluded almost everyone, until now,
after years in this lab, they cracked the case.
Adam Curry: Okay, so I stopped here for a second, and by the
way, I don't want anyone to get cancer, and I'm absolutely sure
that the unhealthy sedentary lifestyle, micro plastics, we're
not eating food anymore. I guarantee you that does not
help. But I would just like to have one study, one study that
goes mainstream with that. Just look at the side effects of the
vaccination. It would be nice to know and now this guy gives such
a screwball explanation for what there's
John C Dvorak: Well, hold on a second. No, no. There's plenty
of studies that show this. They just don't want to talk about
Adam Curry: That's what I said. That goes mainstream. That's
what I said. I was very
John C Dvorak: specific. I was very specific depends. Yeah,
okay, specific about it. But listen
Adam Curry: to what this guy says and tell me. What is he
really saying
Unknown: to the aha moment was realizing that that unusual
reaction to covid matched something in our own immune
system, so it acquired a target against covid that matched us.
So was attacking both at the same time.
Adam Curry: What is he saying to me? It sounds like a kind of a
convoluted way of saying it was something that matched covid
that was inside our immune system. You mean, like mRNA
vaccine, or is it some other thing that we don't know about?
Listen again,
Unknown: realizing that that unusual reaction to covid
matched something in our own immune system, so it acquired a
target against covid that matched us, so it was attacking
both at the same time.
Adam Curry: What does that mean? Wow,
John C Dvorak: that's an interesting deconstruction of
the gobbledygook, yes, that this guy expressed, but what he's
actually saying was, and most people who had covid Were still
encouraged to get the shot Yes, particularly, so there's that
element. But what he's saying is, there's an, there's a
there's a x factor that causes both the cause, both the covid
and this, this immune thing, what is? But he doesn't just say
what the X factor is. The X Factor in your argument would be
the VAX
Adam Curry: or, you know, remember, there was HIV in these
vaccines. Was all kinds of stuff in there, maybe not every single
one. And I don't want to freak anybody out, if you feel good,
you feel good is. It is a small percentage, but holy crap, this
is weird. Cut
John C Dvorak: out yourself.
Adam Curry: I did. Let me go back. I'll play it one more
time, realizing
Unknown: that that unusual reaction to covid matched
something in our own immune system, so it acquired a target
against covid that matched us so was attacking both at the same
time.
Now they're hoping to use their findings to advance science,
knowing
that a virus can provoke an auto immune reaction later on, and
having this proof allows us to potentially develop therapeutics
and diagnostics for anything like this that might occur in
the future. Now listen to her.
Now, these scientists are hopeful this finding will help
understand other diseases, including type one diabetes or
MS, that we know are linked to viruses.
Adam Curry: Diabetes and MS are linked to viruses
John C Dvorak: the shed specifically, but diabetes type
one, which means your pancreas
Adam Curry: craps out, but that's because of a virus. Now,
John C Dvorak: I don't know that that's what she just said,
Adam Curry: linked to viruses, and MS, NMS linked to viruses.
John C Dvorak: All right, asking me questions out of the
Adam Curry: blue, I would like to lift everybody up with a
short good news. I have very good news for you. Ozempic may
have another side effect.
John C Dvorak: Have you heard about the good news? It's a good
news.
Adam Curry: Good news, side effect, better sex.
John C Dvorak: Of course, yeah. There you go. Jacqueline
Adam Curry: Smith had a healthy sex life until she began take
began taking ozempic to lose weight. That's when she noticed
some dramatic changes. Smith, 35 and her husband of seven years,
went from having sex several times a week to doing it daily,
sometimes more than once. Well, I'd say this thing needs to be
on Medicare. Stat,
John C Dvorak: What a crock. Yes, I'm
Unknown: gonna show my support by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be
fab.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, we had a little top heavy today. So
there's not that many, but we're going to start with Greg Hoy,
hoy, hoy in Pacifica, California, 133, 33 followed by
Michael Henry hearts unknown, 9272 and he wishes us I have all
right, me and Mimi a happy anniversary. Thank you very
much. Very nice, sir, Johnny. Be good in 9272 congrats on 36
years of wedding bliss. Never had a fight. What I cooked? I
cooked filet mignon. Yes, yes. Cooking that a lot, yes. Some
reason it's good. Where
Adam Curry: do you get your filet mignon for you? I
John C Dvorak: get I get to, if I can find them, if they have
them, I get the ultras hyper trimmed at Costco, the whole
giant piece, the entire filet Oh, that $110
Unknown: hunk
John C Dvorak: isn't that. That's one price and more. It's
a lot. It's good for two meals, and you can make a roast out of
the big fat end of it. And as a roast beef filet mignon, roast
beef is a very appreciated dish.
Adam Curry: Maybe, if you're, if you're nice, maybe Jason Rick
will send you something from the ranch in Colorado.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, if I Yeah, well, I'm sure there's gonna be
far superior to anything I can buy on the opening Costco. Yeah,
for sure. Well, Costco is not that bad, Sir. Camera, Chris
Baylor and curry Grafton, Wisconsin, 89 and 97 he has a
very long note here. He's got a birthday so that things always
say,
Unknown: Oh, he just, he does give you the
Adam Curry: pronunciation guide for Kaka,
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah, vote. Kaka, Kaka, Kaka Na, Kaka Na,
Kaka Na, Kaka Na,
Adam Curry: we'll never forget. Kaka Na,
John C Dvorak: I'll never forget I said, What do I say? Kaka
Adam Curry: na, kakauna. Kaka Na, Kaka, Kaka nah.
John C Dvorak: Kelly Hubbard, $88 Happy anniversary, Baron of
the Gitmo nation coffee pot. 88 also have these are the leftover
anniversary donations. I appreciate them really.
Harrington, Dame Rita and sparks came in with 88 Uh, I'm up to
speed. And spun down. She says, yeah, thanks to our media
deconstruction Mike McCoy in Schaumburg, Illinois, 808 it's a
boob donation, and it's in support of Kevin McLaughlin, who
came up. Is next in Concord, North Carolina, 808 16. Always.
Adam Curry: Tina always asks me. Says to Kevin McLaughlin, come
in again the Duke of lunacy. You bet every single show he never,
ever
John C Dvorak: forgets it's been going on for about three years.
Yeah, that's amazing. Thank you. Maybe even longer. Thank you.
Todd, banner in the troll room. Hey, Todd. Medford, Oregon, 5555
Todd, Mark Hardwick in Alito, Texas, 53
Adam Curry: mystery, sir. Greg with 5555 think we missed him.
John C Dvorak: Sir. Greg, 5555 I missed him also. Mark says, I'm
Mark Hardwick, not Mary Hardwick. That called
Unknown: America saga
John C Dvorak: Larson in uh, Sweden, 5223 and since he came
in from Sweden, I'm going to say once the wish is beautiful and
amazing partner, Ronnie, a happy birthday today. All right, he is
my absolute favorite person. Also want to introduce me to
your show a couple years ago. This is saga saga, which I guess
is female name. Maybe
Adam Curry: now you don't know they're Swedish. Maybe
John C Dvorak: they're Swedish, Swedish. Amanda Adams in Fort
Wayne, Indiana, 5310, happy anniversary. Bat. Oh, here we
go. Oh, we're interested in location. Bad idea supply. Look
them up. You can look them up on Google. Bad idea so they make
all kinds of things that you can burn with. They make like
fireplaces for your patio, made out of steel. Uh, William Spain
in spring Dale, Arkansas, 50. Oh, now we got the 50s already
took that long, not long at all. I'm just gonna go name and
location, starting with with William and then Steven schumac
and Xenia. Michelle petty in Grand Forks, North Dakota. Uh,
Tom del Vecchio in bland in Pennsylvania. Andrew Grasso in
Mineola, New York. John spade in Edmond, Oklahoma. Mike moon in
Athens, Georgia. Steven crummy in El Cajon, California. Michael
ra goose Ragu, maybe Ragusa in Tustin, Tustin, California, uh,
Brenda for Codd, I'm guessing, in Paul's bow, Washington, too
little town, if you ever get a chance to go through it. David
keckta, in sun tan Valley, Arizona, with a long note, uh,
he's
Adam Curry: our end of show mixer. David kecta, what does he
What is he saying? Uh oh, the odomena showed me two sets of 33
clear indicating it's time to donate. Thank you for suffering
my tip of the day jingles and humoring me by playing my end of
show mixes. And last
John C Dvorak: on the list is Elizabeth Little in Louisville,
Louisville, Texas, and it's a short list total of 38 people,
which is not a lot. Want to thank them all for helping us
get show 16. I don't know what's the number 1685, 85 off the
ground and 15 away from a 1700
Adam Curry: it's a big deal. Here is your Adam curry Dr
Pepper. Can test Ah, I got a good one.
John C Dvorak: Got a good one.
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John C Dvorak: The book of knowledge. No,
Adam Curry: I'll deduce instead.
Unknown: You've been deduced, and he
Adam Curry: would like to be knighted, sir Yankees fan. If
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Unknown: The latte.
Adam Curry: I thought I had a thought I had a meet up report.
I have two promos, so I might as well play those. This is a
repeat promo, but it is coming up. It is the Austin slash San
Marcos float meet up to big deal. You float on the river and
then you have a meet up later on.
Unknown: This is Baron Scott and keeper Christine.
It's time again for the fourth annual Central Texas float meet
set for Saturday, August 17.
We will start on the 72 degrees Springstead, San Marcos River.
Then we'll meet the party over the Ivers river pub overlooking
the river in the heart of San Marcos
go to no agenda meetups for details into RSVP to both the
morning three hour float and the afternoon meet up. Remember,
connection is protection on the river.
Adam Curry: There you go, Baron Scott and Dame Christine. And of
course, we have the Kansas City meet up. Always fun.
Unknown: It's sir Spencer here inviting all the Kansas City, no
agenda, nights, dames and even the lames to the next meet up at
a hidden gem burger joint in North case e hamburgers. What
kind of hamburgers they got? These big, juicy, home style,
grass fed beef burgers,
McDonald's,
Wendy's, Jack in the Box.
No, no, no. This is tays burger shack on armor road. We're
talking about,
I hear they got some tasty burgers. I never had one myself.
Why don't you come find out for yourself next Sunday, August 18,
at 3:33pm catch some amygdala therapy with your no agenda,
fam, and we'll have you saying this is a tasty burger. RSVP at
no agenda meetups.com. You.
Adam Curry: It All right, sir Spencer, another no agenda
stream favorite. Here's what's coming up. Meetup wise, you do
have one, actually a couple taking place today, the
margarita meetup. Now you needed to RSVP for that one. It's a
Palm Beach Gardens in Florida. The Reiki princess is hosting
that. So hopefully we'll get a report. The we drink, the we
know things. The Soviet Sunday edition of the meetup. Three br
distillery, Keyport, New Jersey, well underway. As we speak, the
save democracy and cat ladies meet up 330 in Indianapolis. So
y'all can they're underway there. That's day mark, Sir Mark
and Dave Maria, and that is at the St Joseph brewery and public
house. We have the no agenda southwest New Hampshire meetup
taking place in Keem, New Hampshire at the king New
Hampshire local burger then on Thursday, our next show day, the
Deutsch bags in the USA, five o'clock at the Norwegian in
Rockford, Illinois, and the monsoon Dodgers summer meet up
630 at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science Park. Also
Charlotte's thirsty Third Thursday meet up seven o'clock
at Ed Tavern in Charlottesville, North Carolina. Many more
meetups to take a look at. They are producer organized. We
sometimes we come to them. Otherwise, we usually just hair
with there, with heads only, on sticks, if at all possible. They
are fun to go to. You will meet interesting and wildly different
people from anything you have ever met, but you will all get
along because we all know connection is protection, no
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Unknown: Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights
and days. Triggered, or, hell, you wanna be where
everybody feels the same.
It's like a party. Yes, I
Adam Curry: have two ISOs. We always like to choose them
before we end the show. It's an ISO that we will end the show
with. Do you have any ISOs at all? Actually? Yeah, you do.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. I have a bunch of ice Okay, well, I'll
Adam Curry: do mine first. This
Unknown: is amazing.
John C Dvorak: Not bad, not bad. What? Say it again.
Adam Curry: This is, well, you didn't hear it, not really. Let
me play it again.
Unknown: This is amazing.
Adam Curry: This is amazing. Okay, no, no. No, good, damn.
Unknown: This could be bigger than Obama.
Adam Curry: Okay, you're underwhelmed. How about you?
Wow. So
John C Dvorak: you didn't even try.
Adam Curry: I didn't. You're right. I was busy with other
stuff.
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's why I get this. The simple ones, let's
go with Thank you. Thank you.
Unknown: It's not bad.
Adam Curry: Can't go wrong with that. We can't go wrong.
Unknown: Thank you
so much. Thanks so much.
Adam Curry: No good, no good.
John C Dvorak: And then what's up?
Unknown: What's up with that?
Adam Curry: I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I'll do a
combo today. Let me see
Unknown: what's up with that. Thank you.
Adam Curry: That sounds pretty good. You don't like that, you
think, Well, how about if anything, I just
John C Dvorak: like the other way around. Thank you. And
what's up with
Adam Curry: that? Let me try that one. Let me see how we do.
Thank you.
Unknown: What's up with that? Okay,
Adam Curry: I can do that. That works for me. Thank you. What's
up I just have to remember, hey everybody about time to go, but
before we do it's always your favorite moment of the show.
Unknown: That's not
Adam Curry: everybody. We'd like to thank you out of the show
with a tip of the day.
John C Dvorak: All right, this is a screwball tip. Unlike all
the others, people who just no lube involved, the people who
have a mouse a rat problem in their environment, yeah, it
happens. The latest thing now is to use these birth control
mechanisms. What? And the animals can't reproduce, and
they the generation dies off right on the spot. The product
is called evolve for mice. Wow. You look for a product called
evolve, and I get Mimi came up with this idea as a tip. And I
said, you know, because everybody like my idea of you
get a mouse or rat or something, or you use a blue trap, you
can't catch them. You just poison them with the deadliest
stuff you can't Oh, no. Hawk is going to eat the thing and he's
gonna die. Because, I guess this happens once in a blue moon
where some poor animal, you know, sees a dying mouse or
something. Anyway, they even bad. But no, because of all the
guilt ridden people in the family, the other one is, yeah,
they don't want to go. They don't want to go. They don't
want to keep going. Yeah, Contra pest is another brand to look
for, which is for rats. Contra pest, wow. And Evolve is the
other brand. So this you want to get rid of your, uh, pests,
vermin, as I would like to refer to them, which includes, to me,
dear, yeah.
Adam Curry: Uh, vermin. If you could do that with D, you can
give this to deer as well.
John C Dvorak: No, no, this. The thing about this stuff, it only
works on these, on these rodents. So it's actually, just
say, one of the safer products out there.
Adam Curry: Wow. All right, excellent. Castrate your rats.
Beautiful.
Unknown: And now John C Dvorak, with the tip
of the day
Adam Curry: and only the tip, that's all we got for you. All
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yourselves, Freedom lovers, because. As we're about to dive
into a story that'll send chills down your spine, the UK is
threatening to extradite and arrest social media users,
including Elon Musk for their posts,
humanity's really tough to kill them like tyranny end up in your
grill to get you to get your head screwed off, and now it's
time to screw that sucker on straight like a laser beam.
So if you retweet that,
then you'll be publishing that, and then
potentially you're committing that offense. And we do have
dedicated police officers who are scouring social media, their
job is to look for this
material and then
follow up with
identification, arrests and
so forth. And then he added the cherry on top with whipped cream
and nuts.
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a thank you. What's up with that? You?