John C Dvorak: It was all corrupt.
Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi Devora July 21 2024. And this
year award winning give a nation media assassination episode 1670
Nice
Unknown: is no agenda battling
Adam Curry: blue screens in broadcasting live from the heart
of the country here and femur. Reason number six in the morning
everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley we're all saying
false flag. I'm John Cena moreq
Unknown: Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: Even better than that breaking, breaking breaking
by Alert, alert, Alert, alert, Biden drops out. He just dropped
out. He just dropped out literally minutes before we
started.
John C Dvorak: Well, he didn't drop out during the speech.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: I know. I know. You're gonna
John C Dvorak: say he didn't drop out during the speech. I
thought you're gonna when he should have dropped out? Yeah,
well,
Adam Curry: they had a had a different distraction in mind.
Remember, the whole idea was to distract from the RNC to have
Biden drop out Sunday night or sorry, Thursday night or Friday
morning didn't happen. Instead, we got a glitch. You want to
hear his his note what he wrote? Yes, please. Now I had to check
it with other mainstream sources, because it's not on
official presidential letterhead, which I found, oh,
to be suspicious. I know it'd
John C Dvorak: be, could be Babylon be well,
Adam Curry: then I went to let's just go to cnn.com Biden drops
out of race. Okay. So what if we've were duped everybody's to
my fellow Americans. For the past three and a half years,
we've made great progress as a nation, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah. I know, none of this can be done without you, the
American people, blah, blah, blah. We protected our
democracy. It has been the greatest honor of my life to
serve as your President. And while it has been my intention
to seek reelection, I believe it is in the best interest of my
party and the country for me to stand down and focus solely on
fulfilling my duties as president for the remainder of
my term. I guess they finalize the deal.
John C Dvorak: Yes, as Vivek, put it, so aptly put it in the
in his analysis.
Adam Curry: What did he say? Well, he
John C Dvorak: did play a four or five clips of him do Oh,
yeah. And he said that he's just holding that for a better deal.
Yeah. Well, we
Adam Curry: knew that. I mean, we didn't know in fact, listen
to this show. We didn't need him to repeat what we're saying. The
President does say a Taiwan's thank Vice President come out
Kamala Harris for being an extraordinary partner and all
this work and let me express my heartfelt appreciation for the
American people. So no, no news on that what they're going to do
now. So I'm sure you know, it's like, but
John C Dvorak: we know what you're going to do to get to
pick Kamla. If they don't or come Allah depends. Is she
black? Either one, Mala she's why she's Camela. It can be
either
Adam Curry: one. I mean, as long as it's her because if you don't
pick Camela Humala, you you lose the black vote, you lose that,
that that would be especially after all this black judge,
black guy in the military, you know, all that stuff. Well,
John C Dvorak: that it was brought up on the books. I
didn't want to start with that. By
Adam Curry: the way, Brooke Blitzer. We did Brooks. I think
Brooks listens to this show.
John C Dvorak: What do you say? Well, you didn't say no agenda
is a great podcast. Well,
Adam Curry: first of all, it would be hard to imagine that
someone hadn't said, Hey, have you heard the podcast that rips
on you all the time? So I'm sure someone said that to him. At
some point. He wrote in his column in his column
John C Dvorak: is true. You would eventually at some point
after getting ripped on for years. Of course, you think
maybe a tune in at least once. Of course. It's
Adam Curry: like unavoidable. It's unavoidable.
John C Dvorak: In the column,
Adam Curry: yes. Hold on a second. I'm gonna get it up
here. If Democrats want to beat Magga it's not enough to say,
Orange Man bad. Orange Man. Bad talk. I actually got a couple of
people emailing that to me. Hey, Brooks is listening to your
show. Did we come up with orange MAN bad? I don't know. I don't
think we came up with but we have incessantly Orange Man bad.
We have used that quite a lot. So thanks, Brooks. Next time
best podcast in universe. So well, I guess, man, it's so
annoying. The new cycle has been I go I get whiplash. I got
whiplash. There's so much going on. We we had an assassination
attempt. We had a meandering, rambling speech.
John C Dvorak: Then we let's start with that. Okay. Okay. I
watched the entire convention because it was interesting. It
was a show it was fabulous. It was a good show. If he would
doesn't win an Emmy for Best Production. Oh, I'm telling you,
when they put the full lashing Trump that big Trump in lights
and then he came out and then they that was good. That was
that was ritual sets left and right. The White
Adam Curry: House behind them the White House I loved from for
multiple reasons, but when they brought out compra tours uniform
Yeah, I mean, everything was just fantastic.
John C Dvorak: But they will What made you think they'd win
an Emmy? They should. But no, well go to some Netflix special.
Adam Curry: I mean, it had something for everybody. It even
satisfied the Jesus freakin me. There was everything. Anything,
everything for everybody, including
Unknown: so all you criminals, all you lowlifes. All you
scumbags. All you drug dealers, and all you crooked politicians
need to answer one question, brother, what you're gonna do
when Donald Trump and all trouble maniacs run wild on you,
brother.
Adam Curry: I think the count was about 18 times you said
brother. No,
John C Dvorak: actually, it was nine I counted. It was over and
under a date.
Adam Curry: It was pretty good. Also think when it comes to
television production for my tastes, it was brilliantly
timed. If people like it was too long he would he wasn't even in
primetime. Wow. No, no, no. He came on at like 1030
John C Dvorak: East Coast time. It was to EA was after 10 Yeah,
it
Adam Curry: was close to 1030. So the first half hour of him
talking about you know, that was all the solemn kind of stuff and
talk and he's I'm only gonna talk about this once. Of course,
he's been talking about nonstop since then. That was all up
until the 11 o'clock hour that I think you know, if people just
wanted to see it and get a get a taste. And then everyone who
really was interested could watch all the way to the end. I
thought the timing was brilliant. He hit that primetime
slot perfectly. And then all the other stuff that he likes to do
after you know the
John C Dvorak: normals. is normal says Normal stick. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I do have to wrap ups. So I hate hate wrap ups.
Cuz, right, right after he was done. I mean, it was right. I
was like, rambling. Meandering hasn't changed the bit. No,
good. We're back. We're back on the race.
John C Dvorak: Actually, I got to two clips too after you're
done. But let me just say I would like I said, I watched the
whole thing. And a couple of things. One, I thought it was
just a classic set, you know, where he does his bits. He does
his jokes. I don't think it was rambling. It was you know,
because he changed it. He does change topics quickly. But it's
to keep the body and salary. It's very professional at that.
And I watched the whole 92 minutes, which everyone made a
point of 92 minutes long as a movie longer than a movie. I
watched the whole 92 minutes and I I didn't have any troubles
keeping up with it or listening to me me bitched about it
everybody else was on the West Coast. Everyone watched the
whole thing because it was earlier but it was like I didn't
find it to be that rambling or bad or anything off his normal
pace or you know what I found? I don't personally get it. No, I
Adam Curry: thought it was fine. What I what I thought was
interesting. I did not clip it is at one point he said it's
been such a it's been such a great convention. I hope I don't
blow it oh boy. I just gave them an idea. Which he literally did.
Or maybe he just telegraphing he knew that that's what the what
the media would do was go out was a great convention until
Trump spoke because that's that was pretty much which is
actually what everybody said, here's here's the Anna Navarro.
Unknown: I'm speaking to fellow Christians. I was raised
Catholic. I'm a Christian girl. When something like this happens
to you like this assassination attempt and you say something
like God is watching it was watching me that is a very
unChristian thing to say because it's very narcissistic what
about what about Cory which is a fireman who also
Adam Curry: I really care about the Corey what's his name guy
saved
Unknown: because it's very nice. Wow what about what about Corey?
What's his name? Good Chris What about all those guys? Yeah,
killed on Sandy Hook all of those. It's Oh, God was watching
me and not watching them. There's something very
disturbing. I should have pulled the plug on that Mike yesterday.
Adam Curry: This was very consistent. You know, it's like,
Oh, God only save President Trump but doesn't save
Ukrainians are children are filling the classic, very
classic atheists nonsense, but the best wrap up and and I think
this is also award winning has to be from joy read. Kudos to
joy
Unknown: Trump's big campaign moment. it last night followed
an introduction from the Ultimate Fighting Championship
cheap Dana White, infamous for getting caught on tape slapping
his wife during a New Year's party.
Adam Curry: Do you remember this? Have you heard of this of
him? So, I didn't know this. By the way. Biden just gave his
full support to Kamala,
Unknown: and a certain ribbing endorsement from Hulk Hogan, the
longtime WWE character now infamous for dropping F bombs,
and suing Gawker out of existence with billionaire Peter
Thiel money.
Adam Curry: I think she missed the part where he got radically
saved and baptized like a year ago, but okay, but
Unknown: needless to say, Trump really dug their presentations.
And it was also failed rapper turned in some kind of musician
or other Maga character, Kid Rock. Wow.
Adam Curry: He's one of the most successful touring acts of the
moment after the intro.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's true. I mean, it's just okay,
but he's back in him in this good. This is good. After
Unknown: the intros, Trump made a dramatic entrance strutting
onto the stage with his last day Ben blazoned behind him in
bright tacky lights. And he delivered what was essentially a
rally speech, a bizarre and boring stream of consciousness
rant, full of lies, complaints, and xenophobia. All of this
despite Trump and some in the media assuring us that he was a
changed man seeking what was it again? Oh, yes, unity. My
colleagues and I, we all had the speech in front of us last
night. Okay. And the audience could also see the speech in
this big teleprompter. So we were trying to follow along, as
Trump veered off script and deep into a rambling series of lies
that stretch the speech from a time like maybe 25 minutes to
more than 90. Journalists in the room reported that as Trump is
banged on and on audience members were checking their
phones stealing glances at the teleprompter slumping in their
chairs and even falling asleep. Some even left. Oh,
Adam Curry: wow. Okay, good job, Joy. Good, good.
John C Dvorak: You had you don't have the clip where she equates
Biden getting COVID. With Trump. We get we played
Adam Curry: that in the last show. Oh, did we? Yeah, you want
to hear it again? I do have it.
John C Dvorak: Yes. Play it again. A second.
Adam Curry: Joy. Here it is.
Unknown: Donald Trump is an elderly man who, for whatever
reason was given. This
Adam Curry: may be a replay she doing this again? Because I
remember she did it live with Jen Psaki sitting there or does
a psyche. It sounds very
John C Dvorak: easy wish she was sitting there with Jen Psaki.
Maybe this is the same Donald
Unknown: Trump is an elderly man who, for whatever reason was
given nine seconds to take a iconic photo op during an active
shooter situation, his survival of that and bouncing right back
and going right to his convention is being conveyed in
the media world as a sign of strength. This current President
of the United States is 81 years old, and has COVID. Should he be
fine in a couple of days? Doesn't that convey exactly the
same thing? That he's strong enough older than Trump to have
gotten something that used to really be fatal to people his
age?
Adam Curry: I think I think we played that on Thursday.
John C Dvorak: So so if you take and listen to that, how does she
rationalize to Trump getting shot coming back on stage going
out and giving a speech to Biden getting COVID Then quitting the
campaign?
Adam Curry: You're not actually taking her serious, you're not
gonna deconstruct what she
John C Dvorak: is saying you have to take well, you have to
take her serious enough that she's making she's influential
she wouldn't be on the air. And you know, these people. There's
a study that was just recently done by Fox that says, one in
three Democrats believe that the shooting was false. False flag.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh,
Unknown: hold on. I
Adam Curry: have. I have one of the premiere here. Here it is
the premiere guy Keith Olbermann. After five
Unknown: days of no confirmation that the injury to Trump's ear
and the assassination attempt was actually from a bullet. We
have to now assume that they're lying about something that
happened to Trump on Saturday. No one has confirmed it and
there is no good reason why no one has confirmed it. All that
and much more on the Thursday countdown edition of the podcast
now available wherever you podcast
Adam Curry: wherever you podcast wherever your
John C Dvorak: podcast by the way I feel saw the Rooney by
says it was real, by the way.
Adam Curry: Trump is is fake, but Sandy Hook was real. Just
that.
John C Dvorak: So let's play this deconstructing Trump. This
is PBS along the lines of your last clips.
Unknown: He made good on the promise of a unifying tone.
As Americans we are bound together by a single fate and a
shared destiny. We rise together or we fall apart. He
shared the story of surviving last weekend's assassination
attempt.
The amazing thing is that prior to the shot, if I had not moved
my head at that very last instant, the assassin's bullet
would have frankly, hit its mark. And I would not be here
tonight to spend. But
after that the tone and rhetoric shifted, as Trump staying on
brand, repeatedly went off script, repeating some stump
speech claims that Republicans love, but which don't hold up
Oh, under my presidency, we had the most secure border and best
economy in the history of our country in the history of the
world. We had no inflation soaring incomes,
so we call that false. Jacobson and PolitiFact. But for all the
standard metrics, things like the unemployment rate, things
like wages, wage growth, GDP, these the first three years of
Trump's tenure, we're not somehow the greatest in the US
history, we can find examples of better economies in the 60s, for
instance, much less the entire world.
John C Dvorak: Now, a couple of things there one, he says we
had, Trump says we had no inflation. We had the inflation
rate was 1.8. That's not zero. No. So they call that a lie.
It's a lie and have no inflation we had 1.8 That's inflation is
the smallest
Adam Curry: low know what inflation even means.
John C Dvorak: And the other thing is, they never disputed
his border policy. They just said he lied about his
hyperbolic con. comment that the we had the best economy in the
history of the world wishes, you know, nobody's taking that too
seriously. Why there's probably been better economies during the
Roman times. But who cares.
Adam Curry: But if you measure by the Dow at the time, the Dow
was hitting new records, everyone's 401k was doing great.
Well,
John C Dvorak: if you're gonna if you would do that, and you
wanted to call it a lie, with the way you the way you would do
it correctly, in my opinion, would be to say, well, you know,
he bragged about the Dow, but Biden is taking it to new record
highs, which he has, I mean, this was way over what it should
be. It's in the 40,000 they can't
Adam Curry: give Biden credit for anything over there at PBS
because he's gotta go. He's gotta go go anyway, anyway,
John C Dvorak: here's, here's part two of this.
Unknown: Another example bad things are going to happen.
Meanwhile, our crime rate is going up while crime statistics
all over the world are going down. That
is mostly false. So violent crimes, the things that people
really care probably the most about, have been consistently
going down under Biden, in terms of property crimes, at least
some kinds of property crimes, particularly motor vehicle
thefts, those actually are up. So there's a grain of truth
there. But for the most part, most types of crime despite all
the here on TV, and from, you know, Trump himself, actually,
if you look at the total number, and the percentage, it's been
going down for several years in a row, oh, man,
Adam Curry: now muta, Noca,
John C Dvorak: the who cares? Well, I didn't play the clip
because nobody cares. The point is, and PBS refuses to
acknowledge it, and very few outlets will, which is that for
the last couple of years, the way crime statistics are
reported has been changed at the at the FBI level, which is never
mentioned. So that sort of the numbers are always going to vary
from what they used to be because the ways reported is
change. And the police departments aren't reporting in
some cases anything because they just figured what's the point?
That's like Frederick, with a lot of unreported crimes and and
indeed, there's a lot of crimes like in California because of
prop 47. The shoplifting crimes that are reported not a crime
these are unreported so we have a situation where the reporting
is completely screwed up. So we really don't know have a clue
about how bad it is. The
Adam Curry: biggest crime is joy Reid is still on the air. I
mean, that's, that's a chronic callback. It's like It's like
Fredericksburg. You know, if you look at our newspaper, oh, we
had the sunshine Festival, the wine and cheese festival
everything's groovy. Now talk about the about the drug
dealing, talking about the theft. Oh, no, it's all good. So
beautiful. sound beautiful.
John C Dvorak: Is there drug dealing in Fredericksburg? I
don't know. Absolutely.
Adam Curry: Oh, we have. We have Ms. 13 up here. Oh, yeah,
John C Dvorak: they just live you have Ms. 13. In Dendrix. Oh
Adam Curry: yeah, they work in Korea, but they live in
Fredericksburg. For sure, for sure. That's why we elected a
new sheriff. Everyone's sick of it. So we I want to I want to
have three short clips here because Trump went to Michigan
the next day, nor Yes, I saw part of that and and He has some
new stick. He has some he has some funny new stick, which I
liked a lot. Normally, this is your beat, I have three, three
quick punch lines all less than 30 seconds. And this is his
first one. This is about, you know, as he promised he would
never talk about the shooting again. So of course, he's
talking about the shooting again, and talking and talking
about him looking off to the sign. I never look at the sign.
I never look, I never look over there is amazing, you know, I
would have been dead who's you? What a great sign. Look
Unknown: at the great results that we had on immigration just
looking at them. If I didn't say that, and just because we had
like a crane holding this massive sign. I call it the
million dollar sign that they're expensive. But that sign was
very good. I think I'm going to sleep with it tonight.
John C Dvorak: Heard one good stick. Okay. He did. He did a
prelude to that. Because as he was riffing on the RNC speech,
he came to him to talk about the importance of the sign because
he was doing that. That's not the bit he did, but I can see
where he developed it,
Adam Curry: ya know, and it's a good bit, and then this is an
obvious one, but what
Unknown: they do is misinformation and
disinformation. And they keep saying he's a threat to
democracy. I'm saying What the hell did I do for democracy?
Last week, I took a bullet for democracy.
Adam Curry: Come on, man. That's what you want from your
president. You want jokes. And this last one self deprecating
humor from Trump is always dynamite. You know,
Unknown: I have to just interject, if you would turn off
those cameras, because I don't want to see the screen up there
of me. That's very severe that come over that says that's the
severe sucker. What's with that one? It looks okay from the
other side. But that is very severe. I apologize. I looked up
there. I said, Whoa. Look at that. Wow. That's like a work of
art.
Adam Curry: I mean, making jokes about your own comb over comb
over is that's just classic. That's great. That's
John C Dvorak: the thing is about a good third of the public
doesn't see any humor, anything he does now just beyond me. It's
hilarious. So I do have the clips from Brooks and K part
talking about all this.
Adam Curry: Okay, let's do that. And then before we get to some
shooter stuff, because I do have some things to talk about there.
Let us also do the CrowdStrike thing, but let's go to Brooks
and boy,
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah. Now, I gotta tell you saw the
CrowdStrike stuff.
Adam Curry: Everyone's we all got crowds. It's too much. It's
too much cross. But yes. Okay. K part,
John C Dvorak: but it's important. Yeah, it is. Okay,
we're going to Brooks and K part. This was on last Friday's
PBS news hour.
Unknown: We were all together every night of the Republican
National Convention. You were there as night after night,
Jonathan. People would say, Mr. Trump has been changed. He's a
more contemplative man. Now after that attempt on his life
that he's going to deliver a unity message that turned out
not to be true. When we heard his speech. What did you take
away from his remarks in the end?
Well, what we heard last night in Milwaukee was his stump
speech. Now, most people probably didn't realize that was
his stump speech, because the convention is the one time when
maybe more people than usual are watching. This was an
opportunity for Donald Trump to represent himself to the nation,
certainly after the the attempted assassination, the
assassination attempt. But what we saw in the first 30 minutes
was you know, sort of new sort of measured Donald Trump but at
the 30 minute mark, just about in came crazy, Nancy Pelosi. And
by
Adam Curry: the way, by the way, 30 minutes exactly what I said
right after primetime, and then he's off to the races
Unknown: just about in came crazy. Nancy Pelosi, and it went
downhill from there. And so you know, it was it was grievance,
it was anger, there was a lot of attention paid or illegal
immigration, what he wanted to do about that. And I just think
it was a missed opportunity on the point on the part of the
former president because he has been basically silent for the
last three weeks because of the implosion happening on the
Democratic side. And yet he took that took that chance yesterday
and just showed the country what his party what his faithful have
been seeing for months now,
Adam Curry: that before we continue. Let's just talk for a
second about Trump's thinking here, because they handed out
the written speech to the media or at least pieces of it before
he spoke. Okay, they were already read because I was
switching around, they were ramping up to it. Oh, it's gonna
be really reconciliatory. It's going to be unifying. What is
his besides the strategy that I think he had, which is let me do
all that stuff in prime time and then let her rip. What do you
think about his thinking of going in and out and bringing
back some of the tropes?
John C Dvorak: I thought it was I enjoyed the speech. It was I
didn't even think it was that long. In fact, I, of course, I
was talking to me about this again. And we we've documented
this, the two of us on this show, starting in 2015, where we
started to notice him go long, because when he first began as a
candidate, he was it was going around 2025 minutes, maybe even
shorter. And then he was starting to stretch it further
and further and further. And this is one of those things
where he got when he got to an hour we used to comment on he
was doing an hour he go from place to place to play,
sometimes two or three speeches a day, and he do an hour they
started doing 115. Then he got like this most to go round. He's
doing consistently doing an hour and a half. But he's holding the
audience. It's not like, you know, people were walking out in
droves, because he was so boring, because he's not. I
think he's great.
Adam Curry: Yeah, me too. And I think the audience thought it
was well, in fact, if anything, they wanted more, they wanted a
little more of that.
John C Dvorak: Like when I was watching it, I didn't think he
had gone the hour and a half. And he was at 92 minutes when he
quit. It's it's just it's just I think his pace and flow is good.
I think he knows how to do this, right? He's got it down. He's
worked on it so many times that he can do an hour and a half,
like falling off a log, he can probably move it up to 145. Even
though I think that'd be pushing it. By
Adam Curry: the way. Can I just say that's not easy to do.
You're a public speaker, I'm a public speaker, it's
John C Dvorak: very hard to do to do. You can do it. If you're
a public speaker, it's usually very easy to do an hour, 45
minutes, 45
Adam Curry: minutes, and then q&a done.
John C Dvorak: That's the typical public speaker. But to
do an hour and a half solid, have pretty much off the cuff. I
mean, he does goes to the prompter, and you can tell the
difference because of his cadence. But doing an hour and a
half with or without priming. When I gave a lot of speeches, I
would use PowerPoint presentations as the prompter.
Yeah, because I would you have 30 smallest points of 30 slides,
you know, you're going to be about for 38 minutes. I do
probably run around 20 slides, but I did say each slide would
have a bunch of really bullet points on it. And I would tag
the slide. If I was if I start to forget what I was going to be
talking I
Adam Curry: would pay good money for an old Jhansi Dvorak
PowerPoint presentation. I'm sure a few of them are floating
around here. You have one on an on a disk drive somewhere. I bet
it's great. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: bet they're great. Probably right next to my
other stuff lost in the house. Like, anyway, the point is, is
that you're doing an hour and a half. And to do it sometimes
twice a day. It's just ridiculous. And it's it should
be admired, not condemned. I agree. I agree. Although, you
know, I think in that situation of the DEA and the RNC, he could
have probably cut it to an hour and it wouldn't nobody would
complain. I like to like if it would. I liked listening to him
for an hour. I don't like listening to an hour and a half
all the time, because I've only heard maybe five of his whole
speeches because they're just they're too long. Yeah. But
they're enjoyable, but they're just too long. I don't have that
much time just and
Adam Curry: it was it was a Thursday night we'd done the
show, you know you chill.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I have no problem watching on Thursday
night. Back
Adam Curry: and Martini. You know, it's like, Yeah, bring it
on. This is good. Let's go. Let's go.
John C Dvorak: Alright, yeah, can bring back a martini after
the show. wasted. So anyway, onward with Brooks and key part
because there's a funny couple of funny bits in here.
Unknown: David, did we get a sense that you had a sense of
what a second Trump administration would look like
from those remarks? And to Jonathan's point, was that a
missed opportunity?
Yeah, I mean, first, I should say, I think it was an extremely
successful convention. I thought, you know, the spirit
was unlike any other convention I've been to. People were
joyful. People were unified. There were a lot of good
spirits, speakers, a lot of good, memorable moments. There
was only one bad speaker and the problem for the Republicans it
was from the nominee. And so I agree with Jonathan, I agree
with Jonathan. I agree with Jonathan that it was it was
sorted out well, and then it just deteriorated. And what it
said to me the guy who had only one job, there were remarks on a
teleprompter. All he had to do was read the remarks and he
would be crude.
Adam Curry: That would mean you could be president moron. No,
no, that's not how it worked. Just read the
Unknown: teleprompter and be present. Densho made the remarks
and he stops
John C Dvorak: up. So I want to meet you. I've always thought
this because I've been I was giving a lot of talks, I would
go to these events and hear other people. Obviously you do
that. And one of the things I've always been bugged by or people
that either read their speech they had an on paper, yeah.
Usually didn't have teleprompters at most events is,
for most general conferences, there's not teleprompters there.
Because you know, Bayview work in a studio, there's
teleprompters, but they would sit there and they had their
speech written out, and they would read the speech for 45
minutes, like you said, 45 minutes, and maybe some q&a. And
I'm thinking, why am I listening to somebody read a speech, just
send me the speech, I could probably read it to myself
faster. It was I always found it very annoying to listen to some
public speaker. The best public speakers are very
conversational. Mike. I heard Ray Bradbury was a good example.
I got to see him and breakfast of them the next day to just to
name drop there. Oh, I wonder what Hey, Ray Ray Bradbury would
just talk. And it was fascinating, because he's an
interesting guy.
Adam Curry: By the way, that's exactly what Tucker did to. Yes,
Tucker came out. 1012 minutes. Just no prompter just talking.
He's very good at that. Tucker is an excellent orator.
John C Dvorak: Yes, I agree. Okay, can I'm sorry, continue
the clip.
Unknown: All he had to do was read the remarks, and he would
be cruising today. But he has incapable of self control,
incapable of non self indulgence, incapable of non
narcissism. And so what I took away from the speech was any
hope that some people may have heard that a second Trump term
would look different than the first Trump term because the guy
is suddenly organized and disciplined. That hope has to go
out the window. I mean, the second Trump term looks to be as
shambolic and as chaotic as the first Trump term was if it
happens, because the guy's incapable of self control. I
Adam Curry: love how everyone has to if he wins, do you hear
that constantly? Well, there's this new Trump presidency. If it
happens, they'll catch themselves. Yeah, they'll
John C Dvorak: catch him. So they make one more complaint
here. Okay. Why do we have Brooks and K part? But like he
says, I agree with him on I agree with you more. So I, Chip
and Dale, it's unbelievable. Why don't we have somebody that
actually has a perspective that's different. We have two
people. This is the crap that PBS puts out. And it shouldn't
be supported by anybody that listens to this show. They have
two people that are in total agreement with each other and
all they do is reconfirm what the other guy said, This is not
of any value to the audience.
Adam Curry: And that's why we're giving it to our audience so
they can have valueless value.
John C Dvorak: Okay, that's a good one. Nice, dry.
Adam Curry: Onward. Number three, yes, please,
Unknown: much more dangerous
kind of vicious language targeting really black and brown
immigrants talking about them carrying disease and attacking
women and stealing jobs. Did that stick out to you at all?
Adam Curry: If he had said that? I didn't hear black and brown
immigrants. I didn't hear that whatever
Unknown: jobs did that stick out to you at all? Yes, I
did. It's paradoxical. And I can't remember another ticket
where both candidates are married to an immigrant or
children of immigrants, illegal immigrants. I think what's
happened is that global populism has done two things. One is fed
on each other the or bonds Giorgia Maloney is the Marine Le
Pen's and, and this has
Adam Curry: to stop too. By the way. This is a very mainstream
thing when you are just an empty suit of vapid waste of co2. The
GA Maloney's the Tucker Carlson's the Keith Olbermann
means that there's only one of each of those people. It's
starting to work on my nerves.
John C Dvorak: You know what I mean? But what do you think that
the psychology is behind doing it? Why, you know, they they
cite or bond and how about this trying to demonize these people
by grouping them together? Yeah, but
Adam Curry: you group them by the like this. There's only one
Georgia Maloney. There's not a whole bunch of Georgia
Maloney's. There's no one. She's
John C Dvorak: a totally different person than Marine
LePen and totally different than Orban they're very singular. The
only thing they have maybe in common is what these guys like
to define as popular. You don't populism you don't
Adam Curry: say the Adolf Hitler's you know, there was
only one. So it's a weird it's a weird thing. And it's, I think
it shows low IQ honestly. One
Unknown: is fed on each other. The autobahns GA Maloney is the
Marine LePen once you
Adam Curry: just say Orban Maloney LePen that would be I
don't know this something weird about it that I haven't quite
figured out
Unknown: what it's fed on each other the or bonds the GA
Maloney's, the Marinela pens and, and the Donald Trump's have
fed. This anti immigrant theme is the thing that unites them
globally. And so it's gotten uglier and darker and Trump, our
grievance has gotten more menacing. But at the same time
bid Maga is a much more intellectually serious movement
than it was. It has an agenda. It has a group of intellectuals
that has a group of magazines, all of which is magazines. I
hadn't
Adam Curry: heard that. I hadn't heard the magazines.
John C Dvorak: I don't know anything about the magazines. By
the way. I
Adam Curry: think that's a fantastic products. You know, AI
guns, zine ar 15 magazines telling you, there's a product
right there. Hello, no, that's a good one. Yeah, mag,
Unknown: all of which is is personified by JD Vance. And the
fact that the teamsters were the president was represented there
was a sign that something much bigger here is happening, that
Trump's grievance and the ugliness is true. But the idea
that there is an intellectual movement here on defense of the
working class, that is also true. And so I think both those
realities, one kind of impressive the way they've
intellectually come together around that agenda, and the
other kind of alarming that the level of prejudice seems only to
increase.
Adam Curry: rather alarming. The level of prejudice, prejudice
seems to increase. Oh, my God. They they this is the way they
talk on the Upper East Side at those dinner parties. Rush or
Briefing Books, rah rah, shrinker lovers. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So far
Adam Curry: divorced from normal people and podcasters that
they're losing my attention. Luckily, only one more. Do you
need setup?
John C Dvorak: No setup. This is a key part telling it like it
is. Jonathan,
Unknown: you reference the implosion within the Democratic
Party right now telling me about how what we saw happen inside
the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee is
impacting what's happening on the Democratic ticket right now.
It doesn't seem like it's impacting it at all. But I just
want to push back on one thing that David said it was more than
one bad speaker, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, Eric
Trump, Speaker Johnson. These were people who were also
feeding red meat to the Trump faithful in in the hall. Now,
you would you would think that the Democrats would be focused
on not just Donald Trump's speech, but all the other
speeches that were happening in the lead up to Senator Vance's
speech and Donald Trump's speech. But instead, Democrats
have been spending all their time trying to push out the
sitting president of their own party from running as the
nominee of their party and you have the President having
contracted COVID be in isolation and Jehovah's having all of
these people bringing more pressure to bear on him to get
out of the race, just as we're on the air. I don't know if
you've reported it yet. Senator Sherrod Brown just said that the
President should should give up his reelection bid. What
does that say to you that Sherrod Brown, someone who has
known Joe Biden for as long as he has in a critical state of
Ohio, that he's come forward to do this. And
this tells me that the pressure is going to continue to mount
that. It could be that the President will have no choice
but to give up his reelection campaign. But the big concern I
have is great. You guys succeed in getting President President
Biden to give up his presidential bid, but you don't
say who should be the top of the ticket? And I'll say it again,
if vice president Kamala Harris is not the top of the ticket
Democrats are guaranteed to lose. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I agree. I agree most most so to see if they pass
or lose anyway with her. Oh, but it'll be fun. And be fun. Couple
more terrible.
John C Dvorak: Low thinks that the blacks are going to turn out
in droves to vote for Kamala Harris or Kamala no is her name
Kamal? I like binge be pronouncing his she was black or
Camela if she was a white girl and Mo
Adam Curry: is saying is that the the black women who still
are all in loyal will be outraged.
John C Dvorak: And when they will be the black women will
come out but the black woman would have voted for Biden so
wouldn't really change anything. But they might bail. They won't
Adam Curry: vote they won't go vote.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Now I agree with that. But what about the
black men does have anything to say about that? I can't see
black any black male wanting to vote for No, no. Comala
Adam Curry: for Trump, they're voting for Trump. But I'm just
saying that from a party perspective skipping over the
black woman it would be destructive to their entire No,
John C Dvorak: we've we V Yeah. I have being put this into play
long time because it can't be done a couple of
Adam Curry: things. And then I want to then I want to go to
CrowdStrike and then we'll come back to because the conspiracy
therapist needs to step in The last song that Trump played or
that was, I guess he does the playlist. I think he does the
playlists. These are his songs is what he likes. So during the
balloon drop, oh, it's the balloon drop. Did you do you
catch the song? Nessun Dorma. For you he
John C Dvorak: was to do was to with the FBI also did a version
of some other patriotic song at the very end.
Adam Curry: He before that, now at the very end, that's not the
last song. Norma was the last song was the very last song at
the very, very end. And although I think I've heard this before,
I can't remember where in connection to Trump. What a lot
of people were sending me is Do you know what this means? And
I'm like, No, it's a power. I know. It's a Pavarotti top 10.
No, it is a song that's played at the end of the movie some of
the world and which I have not seen, but I've now gone back and
I've seen the clips. And so the subplot of this movie. So this
is Russia, blows up a nuke in America. And it's really between
between Russia and the United States. But it's the subplot is
the President of the United States, they plot to take them
out with an assassination attempt, which fails, as at the
very end of the movie, where the President United States is
signing a peace treaty with the Russian president. This song
starts to play. And then you see Hitman going around to every
single one of the people who are involved in the conspiracy to
assassinate the president and they're shooting him in the
head. They're blowing up their cars, they're slitting their
throats. And people saw that as very symbolic Godfather Part One
very much so very, I thought and I like Yeah, good one. Put them
on notice. Anyway, we'll get back to we got to talk about JD
Vance. We got to talk about the about the conspiracies whirling
around because that is of course what I do. But first, let's go
to something that actually impacted the entire world in a
massive way. It's
Unknown: a massive computer outage wreaking havoc worldwide
grounding flights across the globe, hitting airlines, banks,
stores, and even some 911 services. It makes
taking care of people in the emergency room extremely
difficult, and time consuming as if it wasn't already the
outage appears to stem from an update from a cybersecurity
company called CrowdStrike. Causing users of Microsoft
Windows operating systems to crash CrowdStrike tells NBC News
at suffered a major outage impacting businesses globally.
The CEO says in a statement CrowdStrike is actively working
with customers impacted by a defect found in a single content
update. That is not a security incident or cyber attack. At
least three major US airlines Delta American and united
grounded flights earlier this morning. The FAA says several
airlines requested assistance lines have been growing at
airports nationwide.
There's no information there's no flights taking off, you have
no idea what's going on, American
says has now been able to safely reestablish our operation.
Across the country users on social media have been posting
messages of their computer screens stuck on what's called
the Blue Screen of Death. Around the World. Microsoft has
released a statement saying we acknowledge how impactful this
is to our customers. And we are working to restore services for
those still experiencing disruptions as quickly as
possible. So
Adam Curry: a couple things before we get into some other
clips here first of all, technically, that's not really
the blue screen of death, the blue screen of death is you get
a bunch of binary code. I mean this Microsoft still uses the
blue screen. It was far from the blue screen of death because
there was a relatively easy fix, which people could do. But I
hope everybody was nice to their dudes named Ben and dudettes
named Bernadette because this was a nightmare for sis admins.
Since almost every computer I talked to Dave Jones at quite
some length about this. Basically every computer that
was affected had to be manually manually restored which means
hands on or you have to walk someone through it over the
phone. And of course the the fun part of this and I've learned
this myself if you have machines that have BitLocker then you got
to make sure you got all those BitLocker unlock codes and you
wind up typing those in every single time that boots up it's
very arduous process very, very annoying. I just from what I
understand that crowd CrowdStrike releases these
updates all the time, so I was kind of like wow, why Would you
do this on a Friday morning, early or late Thursday night? It
was, you know, it's a no point error, it's seems like something
that could have been avoided. Why wouldn't you test this? For
those of you who had your, if you're in a corporate
environment course, I had no problem with the unit, neither.
If you had your computer shut down during the night, this is a
little tip. If you shut down your computer, at the end of the
day, if something like this happens, you're more likely to
boot up after they fix it and get a proper version or not a
bug version. So it would not affect you at all. And so I
think a lot of sis admins are learning that they have to get
their their workers to shut down the computers at night. But wow,
did this show how vulnerable the world is to this centralized
system? That was nothing
John C Dvorak: like nothing. This is microservices
architecture.
Adam Curry: Yeah. But it comes from one spot. Well, that
John C Dvorak: one element amongst the micro services comes
from one spot. And this is the problem. It could have been from
any any number of these crappy systems that are but it's a
centralized together. It's
Adam Curry: a centralized bug. Now it's I understand your
microservices thing. But that's not what that is. This is
everybody on one service. That's the problem. Everybody on one
service, except, of course, Southwest Airlines, who still
run on Windows 3.1, and Windows 95. And they their computers
work just fine, which is probably the most beautiful
message I've read in a long time. Tina was actually flying
out she's on a Southwest is fine.
John C Dvorak: But actually, there's some irony. Oh, yeah. to
an extreme.
Adam Curry: I go that's Well, hold on. Before we get there.
Before we get to a couple more things. Just to show you the
severity of this because we we've heard we've heard reports
and airline Jaya, this and that So Christina, who works in
basically One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. People with like
drug addiction and other issues. She said they couldn't use the
phones, you know, none of the computers worked and the
Netherlands, Schiphol Airport completely shut down KLM and
subsequently Delta grounded because they're so integrated.
They're like an annex of Microsoft Windows architecture.
So everybody should be rethinking this stuff because
you know, yeah, it was CrowdStrike today, it could be a
bad Windows update tomorrow. A boots on the ground from one of
our producers hospital just to give you an idea of Ohio State
Cincinnati Children's Cleveland Clinic all hit pretty hard. They
had to cancel emergency surgeries not show a show how
they're functioning at all. He says here's a real life example
from UPMC. In Pittsburgh, every unit has a medicine dispensing
cabinet, think vending machine for drugs nice. The nurses have
to pull from that to administer any drugs to patients because of
course you know, they gotta protect us because nurses
otherwise getting high and so almost out the back door. All
the medicine cabinets blue screen calls start to generate
by five in the morning the vendor that supplies support for
the cabinets was pressured not to wait for a fix because people
need their medication. So service technicians went in
started replacing hard drives, which is not just a swap all the
information that the cabinet previously held the stored on a
server from the vendor. And of course, that's where all the
configurations drugs and quantities patient information.
So they replaced the hard drives but the server was affected so
they couldn't download anything. The cabinet was still not
restored. The only way to access these drugs is through
specialized proprietary keys that unlock mechanical overrides
in these are real, real problems that people went through payment
terminals banks. Mind you Bitcoin worked just fine. This
is a side note.
John C Dvorak: So I wouldn't it? Well, I mean, mind you, my
computer work just fine.
Adam Curry: My point is that people couldn't use their they
couldn't pay for stuff. They couldn't buy stuff they couldn't
use get their money.
John C Dvorak: I want to just as a note, let me read this boots
on the ground. This is producer Eric. I'm a dude named Ben for
one of the larger counties in Iowa, you got this note.
Approximately two years ago, the state of Iowa's CTO signed a
contract with CrowdStrike that would allow the state of Iowa to
offer the Falken endpoint application suite, which is what
we're talking about to every county municipality, police,
Sheriff's Department, prisons, et cetera, for free. Yeah, yeah,
I'd never I still have yet to figure out what their business
model is. If they're given this away, your entity would sign an
agreement that you would install this application on all your
endpoints and the state of Iowa's own NOC would Manage
Alerts etc. For each of these entities, the adoption rate was
over 75% Amongst these groups, I mean, it's free. In meetings
I've attended with other county IT staff statewide, the question
was raised as to why some of the room didn't take up to free
offer. The main points were lack of control. Yeah, to get
somebody it guys doing. Yeah, lack of control of your endpoint
security and, quote, if we are all in the same protection, we
all have the same exposure.
Adam Curry: Yes, connection is protection.
John C Dvorak: I was called by our 911 dispatchers about five
minutes after all the systems in our comm center started
rebooting Yeah, as well as our jail.
Adam Curry: Reboot the jail.
John C Dvorak: This is ridiculous.
Adam Curry: What's not like people? This is not like we
didn't all know this. Well, you
John C Dvorak: and I have been bitching about CrowdStrike since
the pew pew days, here we
Unknown: go. Alright, Clinton paid for it. And the Democrats a
lot of it had to do they say with Ukraine, but Mr. President
are interesting. It's very interesting. They have this
server right from the DNC Democratic National Committee
who has the the FBI went in and they told him get out of here,
you're not gonna We're not giving it to you. They gave the
server to CrowdStrike, or whatever it's called, which is a
country which is a company owned by a very wealthy Ukrainian. And
I still want to see that server. You know, the FBI has never
gotten that server. That's a big part of this whole thing. Why
did they give it to a Ukrainian company where
you are they did that? Are you sure they gave it to Ukraine?
No,
that's what the word is. And that's what I asked, actually,
in my phone call if you know, I mean, I asked it very point
blank, because we're looking for corruption. There's tremendous
corruption we're looking for, why should we be giving hundreds
of millions of dollars to countries where there's this
kind of corruption?
Adam Curry: So that's the first thing I thought of when this
happened. Just going back to the convention, whatever we do,
we've got Biden out sick, we've got Trump, you know, he's, he's
going to be the story of the day, they're already trying to
massage the story, although also smartly, all the newspapers,
they had a deadline, I probably 11 You would know better than I
would, because I looked at the New York Times, LA, the LA Times
had some snarky stuff in there, because they were in a different
time schedule. But everything on the East Coast had emailed Trump
speaks after assassination attempt, they didn't have any of
the narrative of rambling, hate filled all of that stuff. So it
gives later. So if you really want to change the news cycle,
and boy did it, you pull one of these stones, I completely
believe this was sabotage. Completely. And that was also
CrowdStrike. I think it was timed, I really did not put that
past this company in particular.
John C Dvorak: They, they're not going to argue with you on this.
Adam Curry: I think they're dirty, I think they're dirty.
And we've always thought
John C Dvorak: that we were always suspicious of this
operation. Guess for a lot of giving this stuff away for free.
And then I asked him, you know, our producer about this, and he
didn't come back with the right answer. And I had to ask him
again, wrong, why another reason why, where's what's the business
model for making everybody and you know, say, hey, look what we
got here. You can have it for free. Oh, sweet. I mean, they
okay, we'll take it.
Adam Curry: But they're also in essence, an extension of the
intelligence community. They're in continuous contact about, you
know, fuzzy bear and foggy dude, or whatever, you know, all these
different to Oh, but they got another thing coming out. So
there's an open pipe between intelligence and these guys. So
it just what a great way to just change the news cycle. We need
something listen, here's the meeting. Look, we've got Trump
out there and he's taken a bullet for democracy. The RNC
gentlemen, what are we doing? Well, who's producing the DNC?
Our stuff sucks compared to what Trump did? This is great. He had
Hulk Hogan, Bad Kid Rock. What are we doing? We got to change
this narrative. Quick. We got Joe down President down. I know
what we'll do. Seriously. I mean, I have before you get to
your clips, I have a couple of clips from the CEO that
John C Dvorak: should mention something according to at least
one of the guys who posted on Twitter, which is that Blackrock
owns a chunk of a huge chunk of CrowdStrike. BlackRock is deep
in the White House. Yeah, well, they're everywhere. So the show
your thesis that, you know, somebody came up with this idea.
You know, just let's do this. Yeah. Is not completely out of
the realm of possibility. That's
Adam Curry: the word because you'll recall, I got the word
Thursday during the show Biden's quitting tonight. And I said
that would be great. Because you I mean, Biden would have to quit
eventually. But it'd be great because then you can change the
news narrative. And I guess they went beyond the the negotiating
deadline and by the 100 million dollars, which we discussed that
specific amount is everywhere. Now. 100 million dollars. Yeah
for the foundation 100 million dollars, give them a nice
parachute 100 million dollars. So they had to negotiate that
exit they held out for you know, maybe they wanted a net jets
card or something. I don't know.
John C Dvorak: No, no jet. No god, no.
Adam Curry: No jet out show title. No jet no deal. Exactly.
So they went beyond the beyond the deadline. And they had to
pull something. I do not put it past these goals at all. So I'm
gonna explain two quick clips from the CrowdStrike CEO who
moved and it was hilarious. Australia. This was one of my
dreams. Actually. You had television shows which could
barely stay on the air. Because Chiron is didn't work scripts
didn't work. I mean, more of this, please. But just for the
for the television networks. That's what I've always said,
how can we don't take those guys out. So that was taking place so
that today's show manages to cobbled together everyone to get
on the air and they bring in George Kurtz, the CEO of
CrowdStrike.
Unknown: George, it's good to see a lot of people woke up,
they saw that blue screen of death, we've been hearing all
about the messes at the airports, a lot of broadcast
channels, Australia, even ours. Here. We were, we had those blue
screens everywhere. People are wondering, what happens. So what
did happen? Yeah,
so first, thank you for giving me the opportunity to chat with
you first, on air. And I want to start with saying we're deeply
sorry for the impact that we've caused to customers, to
travelers to anyone affected by this including our company. So
we know what the issue is, we're resolving and have resolved the
issue. Now it's recovering systems that are out there. And
essentially, as you've talked about in the statement I put out
is the system was sent an update and that update had a software
bug in it and caused a an issue with a Microsoft operating
system. And we identified this very quickly and remediated the
issue. And our systems come back online. As they're rebooted,
they're coming up and they're working. And now we are working
with each and every customer to make sure that we can bring them
back online. But that was the extent of an issue, the issue in
terms of a bug that was related to our update.
Adam Curry: Now listen to this next clip. And
John C Dvorak: before we continue, what's with this guy's
haircut? He's got to run blue Mohawk. Because that's
Adam Curry: what you do, man. When you have a haircut
John C Dvorak: is this for a CEO of a company like this? You look
at this guy goes, This guy's a CEO. What is this haircut?
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. It's douchey. That's what you do when
you're a mogul? The mogul with the Mohawk? Now tell me if this
because he says, Great to be with you first. So I don't know
if he had done a whole bunch of interviews, or this was his
first interview. It sounded like, Hey, I'm glad I can break
this with you. They're NBC Today show. So was he tired from
talking? Was he parched? Or was he emotional
Unknown: error in the cybersecurity business? And I
certainly don't even pretend to understand this. But according
to your statement, it was a single content update that has
managed to shut down air travel credit card payment systems,
banks, broadcast street lights 911 Emergency around the globe.
Why is there not some kind of redundancy or some sort of
backup? How has it been one single software bug can have
such a profound and immediate impact?
Adam Curry: It was just a glitch lady. It was just the glitch.
Unknown: Well,
when you look at the complexity of cybersecurity are always
trying to stay what once Excuse me one step ahead of the
adversary. Now,
Adam Curry: is she choking? Is the emotional listen again, it
goes on a little bit longer. He's like, I
John C Dvorak: think it's a tell he's lying.
Unknown: Well, when you look at the complexity of cybersecurity
are always trying to stay once. Excuse me one step ahead of the
adversaries. Yeah.
Give me just one second.
Oh, yeah, take take a drink of water.
Adam Curry: I think it's the gun pointed at his head from behind
the camera. Yeah, sorry.
Unknown: It's been a long night, we're always trying to stay one
step ahead of the adversaries. And in this particular case, you
know, our systems are always looking for the latest attacks
from these adversaries that are out there. So this content,
update one out and as as it does, and it's been doing
before, for many, many years, obviously, we've got a robust
team that's looking at the safety and security and the
quality of these updates. And we have to go back and see what
happened here. But if there's a negative interaction with the
way some of these operating systems work, in this particular
case, it was it was only a Microsoft operating system that
was impacted. You'll see your reaction like this and this is
you know what we've seen here.
Adam Curry: I mean, that was that was who cares? That was
what I think there was a he's just he's just trying to to
speak you know, like oh yeah, this these things do not happen
certainly not frequently in these types of companies I mean
it's just it just doesn't happen it can't happen these things
cannot happen and it did happen and it destroyed their
reputation be interesting to see how the stock does tomorrow
John C Dvorak: well when you want to get to my clips from PBS
go ahead let's let's roll well you want to do them now because
it does this they bring on okay they do it the base I'm gonna
give you the rundown because there's fighting five or six
clips. Yeah. They do the basic rundown of the problem. They use
the word glitch too much they bring in an expert who is a
cyber security guy who's an old man with a white beard and one
of those little Scott Scotsman's caps a golf cap thing.
Unknown: Why? Why? And
John C Dvorak: so they bring this guy in who's a grump and
he's actually pretty decent. But the it brings up the thing in my
mind, which is of course the the bad guys couldn't have done a
better job of shutting down half the world than these guys did
just by suppose it accident. How
Adam Curry: about government? I mean, do you have any idea the
government's basically shut down everywhere?
John C Dvorak: Everything shut down. That it was involved with
this not obviously the 25% of the Iowa counties didn't use the
product error probably hold on, sir, I'm sure. Southwest there's
this
Adam Curry: little something I gotta tell you. Headline
CrowdStrike global tech outed snarls early voting in Arizona.
I thought these things were supposed to be a networked.
Unknown: Wow. Yeah.
Adam Curry: He from their own website cybersecurity and
election security Resource Center. Cybersecurity is a
fundamental pillar of election security. The elections
community and their partners in government NGOs, and the private
sector must remain vigilant in the face of potential threats,
elections, infrastructure and systems enterprises that
administer elections campaigns, and the channels through which
elections information results are communicated can all be
targeted by us. Awareness is the first step learn how cried
CrowdStrike can help. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: So just what you said, I thought these things
weren't connected to the internet. They're not supposed
voting systems.
Adam Curry: So this could also be a nice dry run for the
election.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, they gotta if they're gonna get
Camberley and they're gonna have to do it through to choose
various means Can I
Adam Curry: Can I just get the glitch thing out of my system
and then you won't hear me hear me about it again. Just just
Sure.
Ladies and gentlemen of the press of the media. This was not
a glitch. A glitch is when your television goes first, second, a
glitches when you're when your lights flash off for a second.
This is not a glitch. This was for all intents and purposes a
centralized attack on the entire world from one company whose now
like owes
Unknown: glitch.
Adam Curry: It's a very it's very poor reporting. You should
have to turn in your press
John C Dvorak: Oh gee, poor reporting in today's day and
age. I just me write this down and get the date. Again,
reporting go don't
Adam Curry: like the glitch term. It is. How can you call
this a glitch people died. You got guaranteed people died.
Weddings weren't attended. Birthdays weren't celebrated.
Medications were not given. Not a glitch.
John C Dvorak: All right. Like the mere fact that they have
this thing hooked to a medical Cabinet will become believable.
Have you not
Adam Curry: seen Soprano's? I mean, the nurse was hooked on
this stuff.
John C Dvorak: Oh, no, I know. No, I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about the fact that this system, this overriding
International System of interconnections would be hooked
to one of these cabinets, you'd think it would just be a million
ways secure things you want to go through this these guys.
Okay, let's start. This is the PBS news hours presentation. I
believe they use glitch and they do all the other mistakes and I
have thoughts on every one of these clips.
Unknown: All right, we started With numero uno, we start
tonight with a tech outage around the world that halted
flights disrupted emergency services and created headaches
for businesses.
The underlying problems behind the glitch were fixed by the
afternoon. But the ripple effects have lasted throughout
the day and may continue well into tomorrow.
And as William Brangham reports, 1000s of passengers are still
trying to get to their destinations tonight.
It was the glitch filth around the world. Today's software
failure triggered far reaching and frustrating outages
globally, air travelers were among the most directly affected
with 10s of 1000s of flights delayed and 1000s more canceled.
I've never seen it like this before. Especially in this
airport. This airport is my favorite because it's usually
getting it out. The
outage was caused by a faulty software update within
Microsoft's Windows operating system. Many users first notice
the problem when they saw the notorious so called Blue Screen
of Death. The faulty update was issued by the cybersecurity firm
CrowdStrike CEO George Kurtz offered a mia culpa this morning
on the Today Show, we're
deeply sorry for the impact that we've caused to customers, to
travelers to anyone affected by this including our company. So
we know what the issue is. We're resolving and have resolved the
issue now.
Adam Curry: I just want to make a correction. It was not the
sopranos it was Jackie Edie Falco, who was on The Sopranos
played the nurse
John C Dvorak: carry on this that we didn't know what you
said. No, I said you said have you seen The Sopranos? Yeah, but
she played Jack. She had a spin off. So Jackie, the other thing
Oh, yeah, she was she was the neuro ICU. You associated okay.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Thanks for the correction. Yeah. Well,
Adam Curry: I Hey, we don't want to be fact checked on the show.
John C Dvorak: Ever. That'll be the day.
Adam Curry: All right. So that was the end of that commentary
and every clip. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I do. Okay, let's start off with the Oh, we're so
sorry. Where is the liability of aspect of this? Where are the
Legal Eagles? I
Adam Curry: asked Dave Jones about this. I said they're gonna
get sued. He said
John C Dvorak: he laughed. I mean, I would laugh too, because
I he
Adam Curry: said there every single EULA contains so many
outs for the US companies. There's no way you can you guess
John C Dvorak: is because the EULA has been in the EULA has
been turned into a protective mechanism illegally I might add
by the court system because they don't want to deal with what the
possibilities are. I mean, if you remember what the Supreme
Court oh my god because we're going to drop the Chevron
deference is going to be resulted in a bunch of actual
work we're going to have to do Oh no. So the EULA which has
been enshrined just
Adam Curry: give everybody for those who don't know EULA e u l,
a end user license agreement. That is when you install it when
when your iPhone says want to update you say yeah, it gives
you that big screen you go Yeah, I agree.
John C Dvorak: Because you have to or it won't work it won't
work you get a EULA when you buy a Tesla yeah so when the cart
when you put it on autopilot and slams you into a brick wall in
your dad your family really can't sue tough which was you
know if you have the opportunity as a business guy to install a
EULA on everything giving you free at you know you're in other
words your your judgment proof basically yeah, you're gonna do
that. But let's continue I make this is gonna be my main
complaint but can DFA
Unknown: temporarily grounded major US airlines including
United American and delta with flight stalled check ins were
brought to a standstill. You're his passenger in Minneapolis was
disappointed with his airlines response.
What's interesting to watch is the airline have no idea what's
happening. Because it is such a such an issue that they don't
have a grasp on yet, at least here at the Minneapolis Airport
across the
world in Australia, travelers had to fend for themselves.
flights
have been canceled. So they're we're trying to find a
combination in Sydney, which is not easy towards the trying to
do that online. And then we'll have to try and get a flying
home somewhere else somewhere. sometime. I don't know. It
wasn't just air travel that was affected. hospitals and
healthcare systems overseas were also locked up forcing the
cancellation of appointments and the closing of clinics.
Massachusetts General Hospital had to limit operations
announcing quote, due to the severity of this issue, all
previously scheduled non urgent surgeries, procedures and
medical visits are canceled today. The outage also impacted
911 Call systems in many places and emergency services in
Oregon, Alaska. Arizona global news outlets like Sky News were
unable to broadcast their regular programs. A
major global IT outage is impacting many of the world's
largest companies, including us here at Sky News.
John C Dvorak: Okay, yeah, I don't have any comments on that
client made a mistake kind of bogus. I mean, besides the fact
that Dallas is just more than three states that were 911
services were affected. It was everywhere. It was every because
everybody and I back it to the guy in Iowa says this was a free
product
Adam Curry: until it's free. That's got to make you
suspicious.
John C Dvorak: It makes me to this minute it makes me very
suspicious. Why was it free, for example, for
Adam Curry: exactly this moment? When I need to pull the ripcord
CrowdStrike is your uncle. This Dr. Pepper is flat in the can.
John C Dvorak: That's weird. You have a flat Dr. Pepper.
Adam Curry: It didn't even go up.
John C Dvorak: Maybe Oh, it's probably had a pinhole
somewhere. I used to be a cannon Specter. I know this sounds
weird. Well,
Adam Curry: this was not inspected by John C. Dvorak.
That's for sure. So we used
John C Dvorak: to have I used to work at Kaiser Aluminum, this is
going to be an aside, I do actually go to hear the story
when people come for
Adam Curry: their stories.
John C Dvorak: So I so I'm working the can I mean, I'm in a
Spectre two, which is the only if anyone kids out there become
an inspector, that's your best bet. So I'm an inspector on the
candy factory. And they the CANS go flying by this giant in
accumulate and you can look down and you can see the CANS that
don't have the coating inside there's they spray a coating
inside all the cans. And it's a different coating for a
different taste flavor. Decoding, there's two there were
two coatings at this factory. And they one of them was the was
a special epoxy coating that I think they had to use on Coca
Cola or any drinks that had a phosphate, phosphoric acid in
the in the in the mix, and the data was a different color. But
there you could tell the ones that weren't coded and there'd
be a candidate would come to every so often it was encoded.
And it would be like silvery, because it was just the color of
the aluminum and never had the coating on it. And so I wasn't
the only guy who did this. But once in a while, you'd look over
at final inspection because there's another guy down way
down the line. And if he was away from his is his station
could end they had to go do something and you saw one of
these cans with this pure silver which you'd normally pull out. I
know I just I'm a terrible employee for doing this but
everybody did this. You'd let the can go through and see it
get palletized and go over to Coca Cola, or whoever it was
where they were they they would fill it with some caustic soda
and then soda pop is caustic and then you just know that it would
very slowly dissolve the aluminum and become a submitter
just just the ink on the outside. You've already blow up
on the line. But there was there were opportunities for the
coating not to be completely then you which we couldn't catch
and it would create this just a pinhole area that pinhole would
get it it could be microscopic could get eaten away by the soda
Dr peppers of phosphoric acid base soda and he would have a
pinhole and it would just slowly leash the co2 over a period of
about a month as that's what you get one of those cans.
Adam Curry: Well first of all, a story I have not heard first
time in 17 years appreciate it. I love the term working the
cans. Because from now on that's all I can ever associate with
you sir. Work in the can inspector he's had so many jobs.
You are a versatile man.
John C Dvorak: Like an inspector.
Adam Curry: He see my stepdaughter she's beautiful.
She I'm sure here we go neatly brought me to fresh cans. Thank
you so much.
Unknown: All right here we go. In Paris. Olympic officials say
some of their systems were also down. In many places, courts
were also closed or delayed. While the underlying software
problem has been fixed, security experts say residual problems
could continue for several days. So to help us understand more
about what went wrong and the broader risks to our system. We
turn again to Bruce Schneier. He's an expert in computer
security and technology, a lecturer at the Harvard Kennedy
School and writes the wonderful blog Schneier on security
wonderful Schneier. Thanks so much for being here again. How's
your stand the basics here, what is it that went wrong?
Adam Curry: Every every solution from Bruce is Spinrite Eight
spin, right? Just you spin right? It'll bring it right
back.
Unknown: You know, basically there are hundreds of companies
that do small things that are critical to the internet
functioning. And today, one of them failed.
Adam Curry: So you knew it was Bruce, you just said the guy
with the hat. You didn't want to give it away that was shine
Schneier shine or shine or what's his name? Bruce?
Unknown: Yeah, Bruce.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, I'm
John C Dvorak: sorry, the Spinrite. Guy you're
Adam Curry: thinking of Jimson? Yeah, I'm thinking of Gibson.
Anyway, it's still the solution to everything.
John C Dvorak: But the point is, is this guy brings out this
micro East he's discussing microservices architecture never
says it. But he claims and microservices architecture holds
up to the internet, which isn't true. So we're right away at the
right at the beginning here is assertions are wrong? Boy,
Unknown: it's company you've probably never heard of and
wouldn't hear of if it didn't fail. It's one of many. The
details are geeky. But basically one of the critical things that
holds the internet up fell down. Okay,
but no simple little is not true glitch today. Stopped surgeries
from happening had 911 systems go down? I mean, if that can be
happening because of an accident. I mean, what would
happen if there was a motivated bad actor getting into these
systems,
we see that remember, change healthcare, we don't get
prescriptions because a ransomware. Remember, Colonial
Pipeline where oil stopped flowing in the East Coast,
because the ransomware we see this again, and again, sometimes
it's malice, sometimes it's accident. But there are so many
critical things that make this network function. And if any one
of them fails, the network fails. So
or is it just that we are too over reliant on a concentrated
number of companies? It's
concentrated and the fact that there's no, no resilience, that
it's a very fragile system? And a lot of that is the way is the
economics? Right, it redundancies are viewed as
inefficient. So they're pulled out of the system because of
profits. But that ends up with a very fragile system. It all
works great when it works. When it fails. It fails
catastrophically, which is what we saw today.
So is that the incentive here? Is that to change to make a
meaningful incentive to sort of build in that redundancy? Is it
economics? Principally,
it's economics, we have the technology here, you know, I can
describe ways that CrowdStrike could have rolled out this
change incrementally and caught this before it was a disaster.
We could talk about maybe there being a dozen companies do the
same thing so that the disaster is contained. But really it is
funnily economics, the business incentive is to grow and become
critical, and then run as lean as absolutely possible.
Adam Curry: So I have a question for you. I think everyone
deserves to hear your definition of microservices. Because first
of all, I believe that 95% of all problems on the actual
network when this was not a network problem, this was a this
was a a specific problem related to one company that delivers a
service to Windows network computers. 95% of the problems
is DNS, which do you consider DNS to be a micro service?
John C Dvorak: No, DNS is a basic service. Okay, what is
micro, you can't do anything without DNS. You can do plenty
without micro services. So explain micro services. micro
services are subsystems that a lot of bigger systems rely on.
So exam, for example, that does CrowdStrike thing or anything,
give me another exam
Adam Curry: that give me another exam.
John C Dvorak: I'll give you some examples. You have, you
have databases of birth dates. And so somebody like Amazon,
Amazon doesn't keep any of this information. They go to a micro
service, look up your birthday and send you Hey, happy
birthday. It's your birthday today. Okay, that'd be wrong.
Could be right. Okay. So micro services are telling you what
your location is in Miami.
Adam Curry: Hold on to like Ticketmaster. They, I think was
Ticketmaster. Ticketmaster, it wasn't just recently you said,
Oh, well, you know, a third party was hosting our database
with information or something like that. And that one got
hacked. That's
John C Dvorak: those, those third parties are all micro
services. micro service will will say, Well, we're this.
It'll say, well, you're like I'm using, I use VPNs. And now all
of a sudden, I go to some system, and it says, Oh, I see
that you're in New Mexico. I see you're here. You're there.
That's not where I am. I'm in. I'm in Berkeley. But no, no, no.
Because a microservice tells them that I'm in New Mexico. We
Adam Curry: used to call web services.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, web services. Yeah. Okay. And
they're always and they're part of the overall system and
they're being pinged for information constantly and a lot
of them are, are, are in such a way they're done. They're
architected in such a way way into the main software that if
they fail, the whole system fails. Now a lot of them don't
aren't designed that way. But a lot of them are designed to be,
you know, if if this fails, and this isn't gonna work at all
Adam Curry: right? So snowflake, who actually was hosting all
that data for Ticketmaster and for many other companies
microservice. And actually, for 25 apps and services out there
podcast index.org, is by that definition of micro service. And
if we go down, then all those apps have problems.
John C Dvorak: I would say that's true. And it's also micro
services, it can get to the point where the minutia, where
microservice is actually telling you what time it is. Yeah, and
that conscript. So I mean that these little things, but they
some of them are crucial, and there's no redundancy and the
code isn't written properly. So if the micro service fails, it
just ignores the lack of data and keeps on his merry way.
Obviously, that didn't happen with this. Now this guy may
makes the point that redundancies couldn't be made
built anywhere, you have two microservices, one covering for
the other, doing the exact same thing. But oh, that would cost
an extra nickel even though the service they're giving it away
for free. But it will cost somebody and Nagel in
Adam Curry: this case, I think the level of access that the
this crowdsite microservice has is right into the the core of
the of the boot up process and the networking, so probably
wouldn't be able to failover to something else. But that's a
separate issue.
John C Dvorak: Well, I think it could, if it would, what this
guy's point was, is that it's it's cheaper to do it the way
they're doing it and you make more money, and you can have big
bonuses and get million dollar payouts for the CEO, and on and
on. Which none of this would be the case this none of this would
have happened. None of this would have been the case. If
these guys were liable. If they were liable for screwing over
the airline customers and they could be sued for not you missed
your flight. You missed this, you missed that you missed a
business meeting. I am suing you. If you could sue over this
stuff not and you can't because of EULAs, which are made as some
government protection for the software industry. It's bullcrap
it these things should be banned immediately. And we should have
a normal system. Like if you make a piece of a product A made
out of, you know, like a car and the car fails and you there's no
EULA involved, you can sue them. And it's what happened with the
Pinto and the exploding gas tanks. You can sue you can't sue
over this because of these, the government protection based on
the courts allowing these Ulus to exist in the US are bogus
because it's you can't you either can't use the product. If
you don't sign off, or you just can't use it you're not you
know, you can get it as a kid to sign it and the kids are liable
for they can't legally signed contracts. So there's some angle
there. But this is government. This is protectionism, John C de
Bourgh. Acts as Eva de
Adam Curry: Yeah, feel the Feels good, doesn't it? Onward.
Unknown: So what do you think the downstream consequences for
CrowdStrike? And or Microsoft will be? Or will there be none?
There
will be none? What were the downstream consequences for
Colonial Pipeline or change healthcare, or the dozens of
other incidents like this in the past few years? We move on,
right? Politics is all consuming. This is a blip
tomorrow, I don't even think it's gonna be news
on a practical basis for an individual who late last night
or today might have done some online transaction paid a bill
transferred money, do they need to worry it? Could this have
impacted them in some way, make
it good. If they were flying today, if they wanted to, you
know, needed nine on one services, hospitals, a lot of
things collapsed, but really is individual, there's nothing you
can do. You're not in charge of these networks. You don't get to
say what products and services are used or not. We are all at
the mercy of mercenary, large consolidated systems. And when
they fail, you know, our life is impacted. The only way to make
this change at the political level, right agitate for some
meaningful rules here that will keep companies from being this
lean while you're kind of
Adam Curry: on board with what he's saying.
John C Dvorak: No I'm not he wants to regulate do regulation.
Adam Curry: Oh, no. I mean, he's saying we need something at the
government level which would be changing the the EU law nonsense
you said it's protectionism protectionism from the
government that's kind of what you said Miss unless Yes,
John C Dvorak: that's what it is is protectionism but but going
toward the focus on regulation? Oh, we should regulate when you
all you have to do is pull the plug on EULAs and say hey, no,
no, this is a product. You bought the product a product has
made guarantees to you about certain things if you bought a
product from should do this, that and the other and it
doesn't, it fails. It doesn't do this, that and the other doesn't
do anything. You can sue over that. I can't do that today. I
would
Adam Curry: like all of our producers who also work at CNBC
or other television news stations, you should get Jhansi
Dvorak on the air. This is this. You got one of those hats one of
those little like, if like
John C Dvorak: a guy with a little French hat, Scottish
Scottish cap,
Adam Curry: you got to have a look. If you have a look, then
they'll keep calling you. Oh, yeah, we go to Jhansi Dvorak. So
John C Dvorak: the point is, is that this guy's again, the old
you know, this is a liberal attitude. Oh, let's just do
regulations, regulations. This is an example you should
deregulate, you should get rid of EULAs deregulate let the
legal system takes due course I don't understand and this idea
of regulating what are you going to regulate?
Adam Curry: You think you've made your point? Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: know. I just, I'm just pounding at home. I'm doing
what I've taken. Finally. I do Nick curry. Yeah.
Adam Curry: You know, what happens? You're gonna get a lot
of email, you get annoyed at people who said,
John C Dvorak: because that's what I already get that I know,
I know, everything from the tip of the day, I will tell you
about that. Okay, I'll leave
Adam Curry: that for later. Okay, last clip here who were
getting through it.
Unknown: But you know, the difficulties of that kind of a
thing. One, that's not a constituency that's naturally
out there that's organically fighting for this kind of a
thing. Absent that, are there? Are there political leaders that
could be doing this that can be pressing this in a regulatory
way?
I mean, there can I don't think there will be. It's we have a
lot of trouble because the United States regulating
anything. And this is certainly not the worst disaster. This is
just one of many this is today's disaster. So yes, there could be
change, I wouldn't expect it. EU is doing better. You see more
meaningful regulation there. But even there, they're not doing
the kinds of things that will make our critical infrastructure
more redundant, more resilient.
All right, Bruce Schneier of Schneier on security. Thanks so
much for being here. Wow.
Adam Curry: All right. Thanks so much again. Geez. So the fallout
from this will be I don't know if we're gonna get much
reporting on it from here on out because it was just a glitch.
Yeah, big deal. But I think a
John C Dvorak: billions of dollars to the economies of the
of the world
Adam Curry: a nice or at least everyone got hit a nice October
surprise, oh, voting machines glitch glitch, which, I mean, if
a voting machines are connected to this, they can put all kinds
of stuff in there. They're at the low one of the lowest levels
of the operating good. They don't think they've been doing
it. I'm sorry, what am I even saying? Yes. So this should be
very telling. I've always been led to believe voting machines
are not connected to the network. They keep saying it,
don't they, by definition, if CrowdStrike is in there, and
it's working as advertised, it's connected to something. So that
should be a Gillespie County. Pen and paper. No voting
machines here. All right, let me let me put up the sign here. The
conspiracy therapist is an All right. Couple of things. Related
to the shooting, first of all, thank you. We have the best
podcast producers in the universe. Douchebag. Pat came in
regarding the shorting of the D J. T stock prior to the
shooting. Well, well, well. I mean, how many emails did we not
receive about? Oh, yeah, BlackRock and Clinton. They're
shorting and made money just like 911 Airlines. And
douchebag. Pat says, Well, I looked at the volume price
action since July, when the stock button was very subdued
average trading range less than normal. The stock price was flat
during the entire time, the average daily volume was about
11 million shares. So it's almost impossible that 12
million got shorted without any ramifications. He says I checked
the put value volume. This would be the snapshot of how many
contracts existed at the end of the day on July 12. Before the
shooting, I put up a chart of every single option contract
that had over 1000 contracts. Most of the put buying occurred
after the run ups that can be attributed to things like the
debate in June, as far as reports of 120,000 put contracts
being bought. There were not even 120,000 Put contracts in
existence. Yep, I saw zero evidence of any ramped up put
buying during July through the 12th before the shooting. And so
he says this is bogus. That is absolutely absolutely bogus.
John C Dvorak: Probably true that was unclear should be
ashamed of themselves for sending us this.
Adam Curry: They don't know I mean that no, they should know
they should be Dogen
John C Dvorak: The listener should get included some
Adam Curry: police should not be ashamed. It's just what it is.
Okay, they shouldn't be ashamed. Now a couple a couple of other
things. Now I just want you to read it reiterate. I believe
you're on board with this general thesis that from the no
agenda perspective, we seen this many times. This looks like the
FBI specifically, by the way, FBI with the guys on the roof
hosing it down. Closing down the evidence. Hello, FBI. The minute
we heard that this kid had some bombs with a remote control up
on the roof. Immediately this this is a very stereotypical FBI
six week cycle operation, you find some weak brother online,
who's talking terrorism is yelling about Allahu Akbar.
Don't get mad at me. I'm just saying. You know, and then they
jack him up like, yeah, it was all Yeah. Do you want to cause
some mayhem? Yeah, we should do this. And they jack them around
for two months. And then they give him a phony baloney
detonator. And then the minute he goes to press the button,
which doesn't work, they swoop in save the day, we almost
almost blew everybody up. And the funny
John C Dvorak: thing is, we keep overlooking the Whitmer
kidnapping, murder plot was largely one of these operations.
Well,
Adam Curry: interesting that you bring that up. Here's two clips
Unknown: or sign here. Whitmer kidnap plot victim, but you were
one of them. You were one of the ones to talk to you for very
long. So real quick, I'm gonna go back to Miranda but tell me
real quick. We only got about 20 seconds. All right. You're so
you're one of the ones that got arrested for the plot. Yes, sir.
Eric, I'm Eric Molitor. Tell me about it real quick, real quick.
I don't even know where to start. FBI infiltrated basically
set it up. Am I right? The FBI set everything out. They drove
people they paid for everything how they wrote the script,
Governor Whitmer herself open her scheduling book and decided
with the FBI and State police wouldn't be the best time for
the daytime ride the nighttime ride, then they do people into
it. They even have proof we even have proof of them telling
people get as many people in the trucks as possible and don't
tell them what you're doing until they're already on the
road. The idea was 100% setup and Governor what Marian if they
can do it to nobody like me. They will come after everybody
else. So let me ask your partner this without getting I don't
know if you're still going through the legal battles on it
acquitted man acquitted, acquitted. So this is one of
those things. She's still out there pushing this as if it was
a legitimate thing that there was a kidnap plot against her
that she set up with the FBI. It's walk me through what
actually happened that night. Oh my gosh, man. So I didn't go on
to what's known as the nighttime ride. I was duped into the
daytime ride. And oh my gosh, again, there's so much that goes
into anyways, I set up a Civil Defense Force for my area in
Wexford Cadillac city, because Antifa bail almost coming up
there. Through this process. I met Adam Fox who lived down here
in Grand Rapids actually, after a while he got me a job in
private security, which was really awesome. I thought that
Stewart was really, really cool. And he actually is a good guy,
by the way. So
Adam Curry: you get the idea. Actually, I have a longer clip
of that, but it was fake. And then NPR stations. So one of the
troll room just posted are still talking about it in Michigan as
if it all was real and happened it wasn't the guys were
acquitted. It was a setup.
John C Dvorak: So this is where all acquitted because they got
the FBI got busted. So this is
Adam Curry: very typical of the FBI, specifically the FBI. And
no one typically no one gets hurt, but they can swoop in.
Remember the guy with the drones in DC like this huge, remote
controlled aircraft drive it over and over and over again. We
see this except you're
John C Dvorak: right, the FBI goes out of their way or tries
to go out of their way. So nobody gets hurt. Yeah, they
just get arrested. And they and the FBI budget goes up. Well,
Adam Curry: or at least they maintain it or it goes up. And
yeah, and so our thinking is that this kid kind of went rogue
as you say freelance and he brought his dad's rifle I like
yeah, you know what, I'm gonna really I'm gonna do something
here. Everything points towards this, including
John C Dvorak: so much more, including the dad calling 911
Yes,
Adam Curry: yes. The Wall Street Journal has a lot of reporting.
They say he was for the past year, he was quietly quietly
receiving nice reporting Wall Street Journal, quietly
receiving several packages that were marked hazardous material,
some of which law enforcement officials think he might have
used to make a pair of homemade bombs. Now notice there was no
detonation of the bombs. No one has told about I mean, we know a
little bit about what was in them basically, you know, like
your standard ammonium bomb was some nitro flicker makan in
there, whatever. It doesn't matter nitrates what you're
saying. But they didn't they didn't explode. They didn't
detonate them. He had a he had a fireworks ignition system. By
the way the antenna was broken off at least in the picture I
saw. He had two cell phone It's I mean, this reeks of an FBI
setup. But the kid who has a horrible shot, he's like, you
know, I'm going to show that I'm a good shot. And he comes in and
he tries to shoot Trump and comes very close. This there's
something else that if if there was any noise out there or some
rumor, you remember the first headlines, what were the first
headlines that came out? When? When, when when Trump was shot
during the first headlines? No, I don't loud noises scare Trump.
John C Dvorak: Oh, that was the headlines from the from from
multiple, multiple multiple outlets that tried to downplay
the whole thing,
Adam Curry: or were they expecting loud noises? were they
expecting some pre written maybe? Maybe I'm just saying
it's just
John C Dvorak: that they made fools of themselves by putting
in the headlines. Oh, Trump falls. So
Adam Curry: I think that it's very possible that a couple of
these outlets, were ready to go. Loud noises Trump, you know,
there was a couple of headlines. And we all looked at it and
said, Oh, man, they can't even say that he got shot. I mean,
obviously, it's the difference between loud noises and
gunshots. Gunshot everyone heard was gunshots. There was no
mistake in that whatsoever. Where did these headlines come
from? That that I think it just adds to our possible scenario
here. Then we hear there's a lot of multiple shooter stuff out
there. And so there's some really grainy video where you
have the water tower, you see the water, even the top of the
water tower is going back and forth because the camera is
zooming in and zooming out. I mean, know that. As far as I
know, there were
John C Dvorak: these things that people are buying. It's just
like, what if they were they?
Adam Curry: If there were two shooters, Trump would be dead?
If I even heard today. The guy had a zipline, he zipline down
from the water tower. Okay, all right. It's nonsense. Then we
have the audio analysis, multiple guns, multiple
shooters. I liked it. A little bit about audio. I liked this.
By the way, I liked the idea of looking at the sound, the crack
and the retort. So pluck, pluck foam, pluck foam, two seconds
between each one. And then the last one on the last four shots,
or three or four shots. You hear there's a different distance
between the talk and film. What I think I can dispute this, this
audio is taken outside, on a camera on a phone, which is
moving around, you're going to get different acoustics you're
going to get all kinds of different slap backs from a
camera that is not stationary. It's not like it was a
stationary mic.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's also the thing that seems to be
ignored. wish there were two shooters. One of them was the
Secret Service sniper shooting at the kid.
Adam Curry: Well, supposedly, the ninth shot is that one. But
we don't know. Breaking news. We don't really know.
John C Dvorak: We don't know. But it's since the ninth shot
was that one. We have one guy who has? No he's just kind of
chuckling to himself as though he's solved the whole thing. And
he shows the guy shooting three times. This hole is just
ridiculous.
Adam Curry: So there is a large contingent of people out there
believing this was a complete setup. I mean, people I respect,
this is the biggest show on earth. I and I have to say
again, no. If this was not if it was October, I would give you
some leeway. They make Oh, but this was for he was going to win
the nomination anyway, this is not to get him nominated. This
makes no sense that this was a false flag. Already. It was you
know, he he had a little ear clip, you know, He clipped his
own ear. And when he put his head no, no. How about it was
real. How about that for a second? It was real. But the
mounting evidence, evidence and circumstances of this kid is
amazing. We're seeing a narrative being built. It is all
coming from sources. From phone calls that people aren't allowed
to talk to there's no briefing for everything else in the
world. We get daily briefings, we get the FBI, they're up
there, you know, you maybe get the Secret Service, someone's
going to be talking about it, but there's nothing there's none
of that. So it's very fishy, that that's not happening. And I
don't think it's because there's some conspiracy outside of the
FBI trying to pull off one of the little gambits but then we
have this bombshell.
Unknown: In the meantime, we do want to get into this new
bombshell report right now shell just moments ago coming in from
the Wall Street Journal, and I'm going to read from some of the
piece and this is quite stunning. Let's take some of
this video out there. Here's what we know. According to The
Wall Street Journal, they just published this piece that a
gunman who tried to kill Donald Trump was able to fly a drone
and get aerial footage of the Western Pennsylvania
fairgrounds. Shortly before the former president was set to
speak their law enforcement officials briefed on the matter
said further underscoring the stunning security lapses ahead
of Trump's assassination. They go on to say And they're
reporting that Thomas Matthew crooks flew the drone on a
programmed flight path earlier in the day on July the 13th. to
scour the butler farm Showgrounds ahead of Trump's ill
fated rally according to the officials, the predetermined
path, the officials added, suggests crooks flew the drone
more than once as he researched and scoped out the event site.
So
Adam Curry: I would like to see said drone. I'd like to get a
little bit of information about this drone. What kind of drone
was it because there was a TFR in place a temporary flight
restriction has very normal when the when someone of this stature
speaks, and it's a zone and it was all around this entire area
where you cannot fly it and they put it out and in no time notice
to Airmen. Oh, I'm sorry. That's misogynistic. And as a part of
it, and so even even a drone flying would be under this TFR
and in fact, it says in the know time the Department of Defense,
the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of
Justice may take security action that results in the interference
disruptions seizure, damaging or destruction of unmanned aircraft
deemed to pose a credible safety or security threat to protected
personnel or assets. So possible, that's just bullcrap.
And they're not looking at all for drones. I don't think drones
have transponders. But if there were serious about this
security, then you know, as they portend here, yes, then that is
something that probably should not have been able to happen. I
John C Dvorak: want to correct your terminology. sexist and
misogyny is not they're not synonyms. I'm
Adam Curry: sorry. Yes, sexist. I'm just sexist.
John C Dvorak: Wait, since you're playing that, like that's
a distraction. Let's play this Josh Hawley clip. It's a false
report.
Adam Curry: You're jumping ahead, but okay, we can do this.
Where is yes, Jess, harlot. Can we just wait one second on the
Josh Holly thing? Because the secret services is last. Secret
Services last. All right, then it will play it. Yeah. Yeah.
Because he has the whistleblower. So now we're
starting to supposedly Yeah, now now we're starting to build up a
little bit of a profile with different news reports.
Unknown: They do know that he registered as a Republican a
couple of days after his 18th birthday. But that's, you know
that and I think his final search on the internet was for
pornography. He also looked for pictures of both Trump and
Biden. And also Chris Wray, the FBI director and Merrick
Garland. So he was very angry, I think with the government in
general,
Adam Curry: beautiful. First of all, he's he's an INCEL. Looking
for porn. Couldn't be FBI couldn't be involved because he
had a picture of FBI director Chris rea on his phone. So the
Department of Justice because you know, we got the Attorney
General there. No, wait, where'd
John C Dvorak: you get this clip?
Adam Curry: I don't remember where I got that from it.
John C Dvorak: This is planned his story. This is his plan. I
don't have to be nice to know the source. Okay. Yes, someone
Adam Curry: sent it to me and it was no source I should have
asked for a source. Normally habits such as this as CNN,
here's a big part of the of the story that's being created law
Unknown: enforcement sources telling CNN that there were
pictures on the shooters phone of both President Biden and
President Trump, but law enforcement. Sources also noted
that there were other Political figures on his phone as well,
including pictures of House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries,
and speaker Mike Johnson, but no threatening language
accompanying any of those photos. And
Adam Curry: you know, what I love about there were pictures
on what did he have in an album, they have him as his screen, his
lock screen,
John C Dvorak: we had to look at the picture of Trump mood before
he took the shot to make sure.
Adam Curry: I mean, this is completely bogus. The
Unknown: other thing is new information is that crooks
apparently has searched for information on major depression
disorder. But still law enforcement officials say that
there's no evidence that he himself had any diagnosis. And
the last thing, sir, that I'll note is from the House Briefing
law, say legislative sources were telling us that the shooter
actually visited that rally site twice before the shooting. And
cellphone data shows that he was at that rally site at least 70
minutes prior to the shooting. So
Adam Curry: this is new, this is something new, they have not
done it before, which tells me they're a little desperate,
because clearly, this is not politically motivated. We can't
blame it on that. Can't blame it on the FBI in the oh, he was
very interested in Hakeem Jeffries. Okay, sure. But the
Daily Mail expert
John C Dvorak: before before he go on, I want to say what you're
doing. You are showing that the FBI was reverse engineering, a
possible scenario because of the screw up but of the kids growing
up with this kid with the kid going rogue so now what are we
going to do? Yes, let's start piecing together a phony story.
Yes.
Adam Curry: Including and this is new. They never do this.
Doctors say antidepressants may have pushed Trump shooter Thomas
crooks over the edge as Oh, as concerning new details emerge.
Now and remember, let me just read a few pieces from this
report. Details are beginning to emerge about the state of mind
of Donald Trump's would be assassin after the FBI gain
access to his cell phone this week apparently had two or three
but okay. Though no concrete motive has been established
Thomas crooks exclusive story. Internet history revealed he
searched for information about major depressive disorder in the
days leading up to the attack. In addition to that,
John C Dvorak: well, by the way that shows there's a flaw
because according to the reports, he never went got
diagnosed by a doctor. So how did he get the prescription?
Adam Curry: We Oh, we don't know if he if he was looking for
prescription, but this Oh
John C Dvorak: no. How did he get the prescription? He was
told if they're gonna start blaming drugs on this. Somebody
has yet to get diagnosed.
Adam Curry: Well, they haven't figured that one out yet. But
this story, I have never seen this before. This story from The
Daily Mail links to an Oxford Department of Psychiatry. Story
depression linked to violent crime study finds. Wow, didn't
hear about that. Three times more likely, according to
Oxford, three times more likely to commit violent acts, violent
crimes. If you're on antidepressants. Gee, what next?
Video games make you do this stuff? I mean, come on. I'm
trying to see if this there was one more piece let me see if
this is it. a
Unknown: clearer picture of the shooter and the actions of 20
year old Thomas Matthew crooks is emerging.
Adam Curry: From the FBI at you
Unknown: crooks is emerging. A source familiar with the
investigation telling NBC News crooks flew a drone oh,
Adam Curry: by the way, crooks worked at a nursing home maybe
had access to drugs there. You never know. Those
Unknown: familiar with the investigation telling NBC News
crooks flew a drone at the rally site mere hours before Donald
Trump took the stage. While common for the Secret Service to
banned drones over areas they are securing. It's unclear if
that happened in this case, drone and drone equipment were
found in Crixus car according to a senior law enforcement source.
To senior law enforcement sources tell NBC News The FBI
has uncovered more than 14,000 links on the phone to the
shooter. And then online searches by crooks involved
depressive disorder, explosive materials and chemical compounds
as well as information about the 2021 Oxford High School mass
shooting and convicted shooter Ethan crumbly
Adam Curry: that's the one who's the one whose parents went to
jail.
John C Dvorak: Cromley maybe yeah, criminally maybe I'm using
14,000 links first of all with a phone first got is cracked. It's
there is nothing on it. If I don't know maybe I just heard
that. And now all of a sudden this 14,000 14,000 links on your
phone you guys gotta get he's got to have some tendinitis in
his thumbs. Well, there's a lot of links. I mean,
Adam Curry: one one web page could have 100 links. We have no
and breaking news. We have no information. We're building a
story as you said the reverse engineering a story around this
kid because it did not do what they wanted. They wanted some
loud bang bang noises this kid Oh crazy. Oh yeah, they probably
would have killed him. Probably.
John C Dvorak: Not necessarily. I'm gonna kill these other guys
like the crazy guys that were trying to blow up one thing you
know that Muslims, that guys that they were at a party and
they're going to blow up something Florida alive. I'm
going to say necessarily kill anybody.
Adam Curry: I'm going to set you up for the holly clip or the
Unknown: House Oversight Committee has subpoenaed the
Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheeto to appear before that
panel on Monday as they investigate the security
breakdown. That apparently made the shooting possible over the
past weekend. Republican Congressman Mark Alford of
Missouri joins me now. Congressman, thank you very much
for joining us. I guess. First of all, we know that law
enforcement officials briefed members of Congress yesterday
about some of the details of that assassination attempt over
the weekend. What did you hear from that briefing regarding the
shooting that stood out to you
Well, Jim, thanks for having me on.
Yes, I was on that briefing call. It was an Off The Record
call. So there's not a lot that I can share with you. I will
tell you in generalities though director Cheadle and director
Ray did acknowledge that this was a failure, insecurity. And I
believe that Mike Johnson, our speaker was the one to say that
this was the biggest security failure for the Secret Service
since Ronald Reagan was shot. They gave us a timeline, a very
detailed timeline of what went on, but no real answers. And
they said, at this point, we're really not ruling anything out
that we have to continue the investigation, in a candid let
the facts lead us where they may. So of
John C Dvorak: course, to continue writing the script,
we're not we're not done with the script too many we get some
creative people, it takes them a while sometimes. Yeah. And you
Adam Curry: know, there was a strike, so it's hard to get them
back. So now we have all kinds of new reporting. Turns out
well, you know, we kind of had resource issues. That's why we
went all dei to get anybody in there that we could, some of
these secret service agents probably weren't even really,
you know, regular Secret Service agents, we have to sometimes get
local people turns out, just like I said, we're not living in
the West Wing people. This is not a Harrison Ford Presidential
movie. It's real life. Government sucks. They don't
protect anybody or anything. Not really. They don't protect you.
And, you know, even President Biden I got a picture from one
of our producers when he arrived at Delaware Air Force Base
Delaware. Yeah. He says I just got in with my regular
credentials went right up to the up to the fence took this
picture. I could have done anything. Could have done
anything at that. I could have picked him right off. Probably
yeah, because it's it's a hoax does
John C Dvorak: or is this when he went to Baphomet where is
that? Baphomet Delaware's? Really? Baphomet Are you kidding
me?
Adam Curry: Baphomet the he goes to Baphomet please tell me it's
Baphomet is there a bathroom? It? Oh, no, no, no, we
John C Dvorak: hold that over Jehovah the bathroom that some
Taos Baphomet
Adam Curry: he better not. Baphomet? No, there's no such
thing as bad from Delaware. But he may have gone to see Baphomet
I don't know. All right. So now you're
John C Dvorak: this is a short clip from Fox News. And this is
only part of the long, long, long clip on this, but I thought
it would at least it brings in another element of confusion and
Unknown: we continue to follow the latest here in Trump's
attempted assassination. We are getting big breaking news here
on this Friday. This is all recording. Josh Hawley. He has
whistleblowers coming to him that detail most of Trump's
security detail working the event last Saturday, we're not
even Secret Service. Again, we're not even Secret Service
Day, DHS assigned unprepared and inexperienced personnel. So this
is the letter A right now that Senator Josh Hawley just put out
to the Department of Homeland Security saying I write to raise
concerns brought to me by whistleblowers about your
department's stunning failure to protect former President Trump
on July 13 2024. As Secretary of Homeland Security, you are
ultimately responsible for your agency. And its components,
including the US Secret Service, whistleblowers who have direct
knowledge of the event have approached my office. According
to the allegations, the July 13 rally was considered to be a
loose security event.
Adam Curry: There's all kinds of stories out there.
John C Dvorak: And it doesn't make any sense with the fact
that supposedly another I think misdirection which is that Iran
has got a hit on Trump. Yeah, was my favorite. Yeah, so this
is just this is bordering on ridiculous, and it doesn't help
by the way with all the false flag narratives and the rest of
it. The whole thing is a joke,
Adam Curry: but we've all been conditioned to this. We've all
been conditioned to be looking at these things. Well, I mean,
this is so our comes razor for the show, at least, like come
on. We've seen this we've seen this script. We've seen the
reverse engineering of the of the actor, and it's so obvious
the kids stopped me he went got 50 rolls 50 rounds, man, that's
half a box but what is that? 50 rounds, nothing. Cut 50 rounds,
but
John C Dvorak: that's a pretty big bullet. Don't think that's
half of I think it's I think they come in 100 I don't think
that big bullet comes in 100 big bullet. It's a 556 is a big
bullet. It's
Adam Curry: not a 2002 You know, it's a 556
John C Dvorak: they they've discovered they fit rods been
brought out and just discussed The lot. That is a 556
Adam Curry: Douchebag Pat says 50 rounds in a box
John C Dvorak: of that big 556 bullet. I don't think so.
Adam Curry: 556 is not that big.
John C Dvorak: Okay, 5050 rounds in a box. So we bought a box.
One got a box, whatever you bought whatever he bought, he
took his dad's
Adam Curry: gun. The dad's like, hey, I can call a 911. We think
we don't know. Breaking this true to
John C Dvorak: we don't have any proof of back don't know
anything Russian. So no, the whole thing is bad. It's bad
morning.
Adam Curry: And before Biden resigned. Thank you everybody
for jumping in. Biden resigned. Thank you. I'm it's like people
are texting me.
John C Dvorak: Yes. A little late.
Adam Curry: I got you. That's okay. News travel. We
John C Dvorak: opened the show with Biden resigned. Not
Adam Curry: everyone. Not everybody had people just trying
to be helpful, just trying to be helpful. So, the word the
headlines were that Cheeto was going to resign, which she
better do because she didn't she wants to resign before she I
don't know if she can get out of this hearing. But you want some
ratings. Man Cheeto. Tomorrow is going to be fantastic. I
John C Dvorak: hate to say it, but you're right. So I'm going
to end up to go opening up the C span. Yeah. So
Adam Curry: Captain Obvious Jesse waters somehow got to
President Trump on in the studio. No one
Unknown: told you not to
take the stage. Nobody mentioned it. Nobody said there was a
problem. And I would have waited for 15. They could have said
let's wait for 15 minutes. 20 minutes, five minutes, something
nobody said I think that was a mistake. How did somebody get on
that roof? And why wasn't he reported because people saw that
he was on the roof. We knew had Trumpers screaming a woman in
the red in the red shirt. She was screaming in a man on the
roof and then other people's it is a man on the roof who's got a
gun? And that was quite a bit before I walked onto the stage.
So you would have thought somebody would have done
something about it? No.
Adam Curry: And I'm just gonna keep it where it is. FBI sting
typical six week cycle went wrong. Supposed to be Bang Bang
Trump was supposed to be cowering make him look all
scared running away. Maybe that's why the photographer was
there. Who got the who got the shot, you know, with the bullet
flying through the air, which Thank you. At least 100
photographers have told us this is completely possible. Not
crazy. Not fake. Not phony. So calm down every mostly
John C Dvorak: about that one. 8000s. Shutter speed. More notes
on that than anything.
Adam Curry: Yeah, calm down. I
John C Dvorak: don't think we said it was impossible. Did we?
I
Adam Curry: know. You actually said bullcrap. But it's okay. I
said bull crap. Yeah, it's okay. It's okay. People are more upset
about your tip of the day than that. Trust me. So
John C Dvorak: they are they're upset about them. I'm going to
stop doing Tip of the day because they get so much blow
for you don't get that was Oh crap.
Adam Curry: Oh, by entities that people love you. Hey, you know
you're over the target when you're getting Flack. Oh,
John C Dvorak: yeah, must be it.
Adam Curry: Alright, I'm gonna close the conspiracy. Well, no,
I'm gonna keep the door open for a minute because we gotta go
into the next piece, which is critically important. Lo and
behold, on the Bill Maher show, which I just happen to catch on
CNN because I was prepping last night. And you know I was having
scanning through the channels just to see if I need to clip
anything which by the way, YouTube TV, here's a tip of the
day. YouTube TV is so awesome for that because you can just
stop it. Click back a little bit, get my clip machine going
roll it got the clip. Fantastic. And that's how I got who told
you this? You did. So it should have been Tip of the Day. It
should
John C Dvorak: have been Yeah, YouTube TV is dynamite because
of his virtual record fueled recording system is a virtual
PCR and you can basically record everything and it keeps it for
like 90 days. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I mean, I've already got all my favorite Olympic
sports lined up as great recording fencing.
John C Dvorak: I doubt well you'd have that but that would
be the only one no and athletic. Yes, that's not gay enough for
you. Fencing is wow. The I'm sorry that it was uncalled for
fencing
Adam Curry: is anything but gay. That's a real man sport.
John C Dvorak: Without all the protective gear I say yes.
Adam Curry: So who shows up for the opening interview on Bill
Maher show? Mayor Pete. Pete Buda judge, very interesting.
Spoke better than he usually does. Should
Unknown: Joe Biden have fired the Secret Service head. I mean,
I don't understand that. I'm
not in on all the details of the Homeland Security side. I know
there's really serious after action report and process and a
whole lot of scrutiny going on there. I think you know,
everything that led up to that moment that horrible moment is
under a microscope. And I believe that President Biden in
the administration will do the right thing. But you didn't
need a microscope to see it. Yeah, but you also was on the
roof. Like, like, not that far away with a rifle for a long
time. I mean, I know. I've seen people fired for less. And it
just looks bad. It looks like Well, the other guy from the
other party got shot, we'll look into it. If we got time. I think
it's doing something of this gravity happens. You don't just
dash off a decision, you do a comprehensive process to find
every single piece of anything that could go wrong. And then
there's going to be accountability, and there's
going to be changed. I'm sure of that. Again, I'm not in the
middle that obviously that's not my lane. But I know that's
what's going
Adam Curry: on I lane, that's not my lane. It's not his lane.
So it's like, well, we know what pizza lane is.
John C Dvorak: So Whoa, that well, that's what triggered me
on the other thing.
Adam Curry: That's that's what happened. So then he gets into
JD Vance. And I have a few things to say about JD Vance,
because I've done some reflection and thinking about
it. And all of a sudden became incredibly clear to me,
actually, Thursday night when I was watching JD Vance. And and
you know, and his wife and just seeing all the dynamics
happening. JD Vance, of course, people have a lot of issues with
him, mainly because he switched from a never Trumper which Vance
himself says, Well, that was, you know, I was 30. I said dumb
things. And I got three girls around 30. And I agree with
that. When you're 30. I've said dumb stuff when I was 30. But he
changed his tune. Then of course, there's the very
problematic connection to the PayPal Mafia to Elon and to
teal. And he was in the, you know, was a venture capital guy
and now and teal helped him win Ohio and it went so fast and he
changed his name. You know, he changed his last name. He
changed his first name, manufactured candidates. So
let's hear from Mayor Pete.
Unknown: I know a lot of guys like JD Vance. I run into a lot
of guys like him not so much. When I was growing up at Diageo.
Peter Thiel is his big backer. Yeah, for sure. Okay, if people
aren't who that is, he started PayPal. If he's gay, he's a
billionaire. I mean, I've had a couple of people who knew you
were coming on this week's Ask Pete. What do you thinks about
Peter Thiel being so in love with JD Vance who is against
flatly against gay marriage? So
I think it's a profound contradiction, but maybe it's
not that complicated. I know. There are a lot of folks who say
what's going on with some of these Silicon Valley folks
veering into Trump world with the JD Vance and backing Trump.
What are they thinking still come Valley's supposed to be you
know, they're supposed to care about climate they're supposed
to be, you know, our pro science and rational and libertarians.
Normally, Libertarians don't like authoritarians. What's up
with that? I think it's actually we've made it wait. These are
very rich men who've decided to back the Republican Party that
tends to do good things for very rich men.
That's kind of what you're getting is. That's kind of what
you're getting with Jay do. Right. So I knew a lot of people
like him. When when I got to Harvard, I found a lot of people
like him who would say whatever they needed to get ahead. And
five years ago, that seemed like being the anti Trump
Republicans. So that's what he was talking about how he was on
fitted, how he was cynical, called him an OP fighter, which
is kind of a weird thing to say about a person but definitely a
really good I mean, for somebody whose identity is that they're
connected to Appalachia, which has an opioid crisis. That
really is the darkest thing you could possibly say about Donald
Trump.
Adam Curry: Okay, so first thing we need to look at is the
Silicon Valley connection Trump talked about, talked about the
power needed for AI is like, Yeah, I'll get you as much power
as you want. Drill, baby drill, by the way, before I forget,
Trump also told gave a signal to the military industrial complex,
but you heard him say, big, beautiful ship being built here.
Big beautiful ship and an Iron Dome around America. Does it get
any better? The contracts are being written as we speak, so
there'll be no war, but we'll have finally Reagan Star Wars,
or as Trump called it spaceship or whatever
John C Dvorak: he has, he screwed it up.
Adam Curry: I mean, he set up Space Force. So we're going to
have an Iron Dome. Perfect. So there's your military guys.
They're like, Oh, okay, well, good. We got lucky with that a
lot of work to do. But bringing in the Silicon Valley, money
people who are as we've discussed horrors, because
they're Democrat or Republican, it doesn't matter whoever is
going to be their guy who was going to and that's what Peter
Thiel was doing. He was of course funding JD Vance. Let's
get him in. You know, then we because you know, he understands
And he can get the regulation lifted on AI because those guys
still believe in it. They gotta believe in something. Crypto
regulation, Bitcoin. All of that makes total sense. And just to
give you a little idea of I mean, this blew my mind.
Zuckerberg Zuckerberg even saying things like this,
Unknown: I've done some stuff personally in the past, I'm not
planning on doing that this time. And that includes, you
know, not endorsing either of the candidates. Now, look, I'm
there's obviously a lot of crazy stuff going on in the world.
I've been to historic events over the last, like, over the
weekend. And I mean, a personal note, it's, yeah, I mean, seeing
Donald Trump get get up after getting shot in the face, and
pump his fist in the air with the American flag is one of the
most badass things I've ever seen in my life. But, but look,
I mean, it's, you know, as I think like, it's some level as
an American, it's like, look look hard to not get kind of
emotional about that spirit. And that fight. And I think that
that's why a lot of people, like the guy,
Adam Curry: Mark Zuckerberg has no emotional bone in his body.
He's like, Oh, regulation for Facebook, facebook, you know,
Trump's gonna hate me because now we kicked them off. And so
so it's very normal for a guy like Trump to bring in the
Silicon Valley clan, bring in the money, bring all the big
boys in, bring in the social media guys, Elon, what flipped
on a dime said he never endorsed any candidate makes total sense.
Now we get to, will he be reliable? Can you trust him as a
vice president? Will he be a true partner five
Unknown: years later, one way he gets ahead is that he's the
greatest guy since sliced bread. And actually watch this exact
same process with somebody else I got to know, in my days in the
Midwest, which was my former governor, Mike Pence, who I
watched start out as an evangelical Christian who cared
about rectitude and family values, and then get on board
with a guy who was mixed up with a porn star, make excuses for
him, so that he could have power. And then he did. He got
four glorious years, I guess, as vice president United States.
And it ended on the west front of the Capitol with Trump
supporters proposing that he be hanged for using the one shred
of integrity, he still had to stand up to an attempt to
overthrow the government. So I guess, maybe not as a
politician, but as a human being. What I'll say is that I
hope things work out a little bit better for JD Vance.
Adam Curry: All right. What does everyone get all panties all in
a bunch about the connection to the intelligence community
because Peter Thiel Palantir Whitney Webb WOTUS wrote a 6800
word essay about JD Vance, the man behind Trump's VP, VP pick
is worse than you think. Intelligence. totally new thing
for me information awareness. This is the worst thing Trump is
a dummy. He's an idiot. He's bringing in the intelligence.
We're gonna be all under surveillance. 24/7 Welcome to my
office here in the conspiracy therapist. suite of offices.
Trump is smart. When when pence became untrustworthy, he just
says guys a loser. When JD Vance is untrustworthy, guys, a loser
will know very quickly. But first, you're bringing in the
Silicon Valley billionaires. And he's an art of an art of war
guy. You keep your friends close, but your enemies even
closer. Of course, you want the intelligence community in your
vice president. So you can miss direct, you can give me a little
bit of information, see where it comes back. This is a brilliant
move. You want the intel community? You want to know who
the guy is? I think Vance is probably reasonably smart, but
maybe not super smart. This is exactly what you want to do.
Because the intelligence community is the danger. So this
I mean, I cannot agree with all of these. These people getting
their panties in a bunch and getting all spun up. This is
what you want. You want a president who knows what the
Intel communities are doing? Because he's got them in the
office next door. And he knows the guy. This is what you do.
You want to find a leak in your company. Give some information
to somebody that only that person has. See where it comes
out. I'm closing the door.
John C Dvorak: Does sound effect Yes.
Adam Curry: So don't worry everybody. Now, will trump stay
alive? I mean, I heard this morning. There was what's his
face Sorkin Sorkin who wrote the West Wing didn't eat and Sorkin
write the West Wing and was one of the one of the West Wing
producers. Andrew Ross Sorkin.
John C Dvorak: I don't think so. I thought he was I think you're
thinking of the other guy who is the well, we'll just keep
talking about check it out. Okay. Yeah. You know, we don't
have to guess. Yes, please.
Adam Curry: So he's, he does an op ed in in the Aaron
John C Dvorak: Sorkin
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. That's why I was confused. Well, Andrew
Ross Sorkin isn't is a weenie anyway. He does an op ed in the
New York Times and he says, Joe Biden out the solution. Mitt
Romney, the Democrats should run Mitt Romney which I think is
probably what Vivek was been talking about. Oh, no. Oh, no.
The Who are they? You watch you they're gonna pick you watch and
we'll never be Trump to hate so they actually suggest Mitt
Romney for the Democrats. How about that?
John C Dvorak: That's very funny. If it was a humor column
I take it down
Adam Curry: on unfortunately these guys are void of any humor
so I think that's about all we all we can answer right and
wrong. That's about all we can answer right now. Because
breaking news, nobody knows anything. We have no information
there bill. We're
John C Dvorak: not gonna get any more than we're doing our
analysis as far as it goes.
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd like to thank you for your
courage say in the morning to you the man who put the C in the
can inspectors say hello to my friend on the other end, the one
and only Mr. John.
John C Dvorak: Good morning to you, Michelle and Kareem is
watching graphene near subs in the water. And all the names of
knights out there.
Adam Curry: Well, we are an hour late. Wow, I'm pretty impressed.
Actually. 20 899 Two hours in.
Unknown: That's good.
Adam Curry: That's good. That's a great number. Hello, trolls.
Good to have you here. Of course, we had 1000 come in to
tell us that Biden quit. So we appreciate you guys so much that
matches
John C Dvorak: the price equipment he did. I thought it's
gonna go another week at least. Well, I mean,
Adam Curry: I had Thursday night, you know, so I was that
was I was. I was close. Well, we had we had a different
distraction, because it was but no cigar. They didn't get the
jet card. So they had to come up. Which brings us to the bonus
clip. Oh, look at that. Is that something that you sent that I
don't have? No,
John C Dvorak: I have it right here. No, it's on the list by
his bonus for the we always like to say that people are nations.
Yes.
Adam Curry: But for the for the bonus clip? Yes. Okay.
John C Dvorak: Blyden not going anywhere.
Unknown: President Joe Biden's campaign meanwhile, continues to
insist this weekend that Biden will not step down as the
Democratic presidential candidate calls for Biden to
drop out of the race have continued to grow with the
latest coming from a senator from the Midwest. NPRs Elena
more explains,
we saw Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio come forward. And he's in a
really competitive race this fall. And he argues that the
speculation around Biden's political future is actually
taking away from the messaging around issues that he is trying
to use to keep his seat you know, and you know, he was
actually the fourth senator to call for Biden to step aside and
there's been more than two dozen elected House Democrats who have
said the same thing
John C Dvorak: this weekend he's not quitting no not quit just so
you get that out. Yeah. All right. So there's these reports
are bogus I guess because today is part of the weekend
Adam Curry: now and we've been calling we've been telling this
is gonna happen. We were so clear. It was obvious that it
only happened two days later. Not bad. Not bad.
Unknown: So three, actually.
Adam Curry: Okay, three, still pretty close. We had the number
right and you watch the jet card will be a part of it. Along with
the foundation. Excuse me, along with the foundation 100 million
dollars. It's gonna be some money. Yeah, seed money. Party,
everybody party at Hunter's house. So those trolls that we
just counted are in the troll room troll room.io You can find
that 24/7 There's always trolls hanging out there. It's part of
the no agenda stream empire. We have shows on there all the
time. As I said 24/7 Some of them are the podcast had been
recorded previously or we do have a schedule so us or bemrose
schedules everything nicely. So you whenever you go in there,
there's something fresh a lot of live shows. Darren O'Neil does
his live show before our Thursday and Sunday shows and
and often there's a live show afterwards. Let me see. Do we
have a live show after today? Oh, yes. Yeah. Unrelenting. I
don't know if that's live or not, but they're doing the
CrowdStrike chaos so it's a good place to hang out. And you can
also use a modern podcast app, which will alert you when we go
live or any of these shows go live really which is kind of
cool. And it also tells you within 90 seconds of us
publishing your show if you couldn't listen live that it's
there. It's got chapters with cool art. Dred Scott does those
for us. It's got transcripts. It's got a Hootenanny of
features and it's brought to you by independent people who are
doing this just to keep podcasting free and open. I
there was a an interesting article about podcast numbers in
the United Kingdom, because, you know, they had this big
political week in the UK, you're not allowed to do any political
stuff on television or radio. So everyone was looking to podcasts
to to get their political information. And so now they
have gotten the this is UK is a country of 60 60 million,
probably 65 million now with all the illegal people. podcasters
are very secretive about exact listener numbers, but they did
get a few. And for instance, what do you think the news
agents the hottest podcast, the hottest podcast out there? What
do you think they get in the UK? Average episode view per
episode?
John C Dvorak: This is a question for me to guess. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Listen, not
John C Dvorak: a view or less 2000.
Adam Curry: It's the hottest the podcasts out there are the
hottest one. It's the hottest one the news at 2500. Now it's
it's 42,000.
Unknown: Wells.
Adam Curry: We better we get multiple times that?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we get more long lines of 800,000. How about
Adam Curry: pod save the UK? Which is the The Daily Show for
pod save pod save America. So it's the crooked media. It's the
valued, yeah. 30,000 An episode. And these people are making big
money. Well,
John C Dvorak: that's because they had they take advertising
and they send they soak the advertisers. It takes skill. But
the problem is, of course, you can't really do a reasonably
good podcast if you're going to be beholding to some corporate
advertiser that's going to want you to say,
Adam Curry: actually, I copied You are my response. You know,
they're so desperate they're looking for inventory because
turns out most of these podcasts are just getting crap numbers.
Buddha mud pudsey of the UK, no one's listening to you douche.
No agenda, best podcast in the universe. So they're so
desperate for inventory. They're emailing us, hey, we'd like to
know what what it would cost to run the NetSuite ads are no
agenda. Have you ever listened? This
John C Dvorak: is well, you know, this reminds me. I want to
tell another story. Oh, come on. Okay, so I'm on the Highlander,
which is the Forbes yacht. Forbes magazine.
Adam Curry: drinking champagne eating caviar with potato chips.
Pretty much. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: They have a full time chef on board a really nice
yacht.
Unknown: Highlander. Let
John C Dvorak: me I gotta call the Highlander. Yeah. They have
matchbooks everyone's Gauchos. Yeah. So it was a big deal to go
on this thing because if they don't normally writers on but I
was on the thing for and it was
Adam Curry: buyers. This thing is amazing. The Highlander.
Yeah. Nice boat. Yeah, it's not a boat. It's a ship.
John C Dvorak: So they gave us a tour around Manhattan. While it
was really a tour for the media buyers. Yeah, of course. Thanks.
So this one. And then people will always irked about this and
there's a lot of stores that bought this boat, confronting
other small boats and other publishers tried to you know,
impress people with gone by red, gone by giving them the finger.
So, so I got to talk to a bunch of they're all young women just
out of school. And they're all media buyers. And so there's
it's mostly a boat full of women that are all media buyers. Hey,
girls, there's Jaws pretty much and so you get to chat with
them. And it's like, oh, yeah, we bought this we're gonna be
good to buy do a buy purchase for so and so they're all part
of some advertising agency. And they're they they buy space in
the different magazines and they were you know, forced takes them
on this little boat, right? So that impresses them and they
feel obliged to buy to push advertising to Forbes at the
time. And they not one of the media buyers I've ever talked
to, at least on this particular voyage. knew they'd never looked
at any of these magazines. They were totally no no. You know,
we're just here to get a free boat ride. I'm giving you
advertising it was all corrupt.
Adam Curry: What your
John C Dvorak: gambling going on? Yeah, don't
Adam Curry: say Yeah. Yeah. It's not like any of these media
buyers. Listen to the podcast. They're buying
John C Dvorak: it No. And that's the point you were making. Yeah.
You saw my reply
Adam Curry: said 17 years we've been listener funded. We don't
take advertising. I mentioned this exact thing on your boss's
podcast just three weeks ago. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: they don't even listen to their own bosses.
Unknown: I thought I thought that was funny.
Adam Curry: Ah, yes. Hey, girls, I got a podcast.
Unknown: Where's your bikini?
Adam Curry: Did they have bikinis on? No, there?
John C Dvorak: Were just there were just a classic CO is just
out of school COVID style sorority sisters old drink
eating the filet mignon and drinking the booze. That was
lots of it.
Adam Curry: Awesome. We're in the wrong business.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, probably.
Adam Curry: So as you just heard, we run this value for
value, which means we don't take your NetSuite advertising. And
though and we've got a bigger audience anyway, so stand on the
sidelines and Boo hoo, bully you. You can't buy us we're
unviable. Well, until it's time for an exit, but for now we're
unviable. Yeah, well, there's everyone has a price
John C Dvorak: said no one's getting close. So no one's
Adam Curry: coming close. You can support us with your
financial contributions that no boat ride here by the way,
you'll get a credit if you're an executive or Associate Executive
Producer. But you can also help us with your time your talent
you can support us by getting other people to listen you know
it's always every single day I see on on my timeline on x I see
people Oh yeah, you should listen to no agenda, Corinne
Dvorak. My favorite is when someone from some podcast goes
Who should I have on as a guest next? And it's always yeah Adam
curry Jhansi Dvorak and that we've never been booked on those
so you can stop we never do get it never that nice
John C Dvorak: CSS competition or something I'm not sure and
we're not but he gets a log rolling well,
Adam Curry: they know that they'll never get us together
because you only get we he would you both do that show? Nope. No,
no, if you want Adam and John together you this is the only
place and that's our secret sauce. We get a lot of talent
from our artists who use no agenda, our generator.com
Another fine value for value contribution for cerebral
couture, which has been running for a long time for us keeps all
the art in check. It's a great place to upload anybody can
compete anybody can go take a look at it. Right after the show
we we get the you know everything together we do the
credits, we get the title and then artwork and then we choose
one and that's really something we use for marketing the show
and it's a big help. It's a lot of value to us. There's no way
you could get you know artists to do 2030 pieces for every
single show done while we're doing the show live now it
doesn't mean that everything is great AI has certainly hurt the
quality of the of the work everything kind of looks the
same.
John C Dvorak: But it's hurt the I don't think it's hurt the
quality.
Adam Curry: Well it's hurt the look it's the it's I think it's
hurt.
John C Dvorak: I think the look is a Korean TV I ish Yeah, the
Adam Curry: soul is gone out. Which is kind of what I liked
about Dame Kenny Ben, one of our Dutch masters, who and we had a
big argument over this. In fact, John's like you owe me with this
one you owe me.
John C Dvorak: I thought it was two in a row. You owe me twice.
You owe me double.
Adam Curry: I thought it was an excellent piece. I understood
the humor of it. It was the sloped rope roof with a little
was it was it little traffic sign with a little man slipping
on the slope roof. And the reason why John didn't like it
is because and this is very interesting because there's a
chimney on it. But you kept saying chimney chimney. Is it
chimney or chimney?
John C Dvorak: Most probably both.
Adam Curry: I think it's just chimney. Well,
John C Dvorak: chimney. You kept saying chimney. Yeah, there's
I'm adding an eye. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Chimney chimney, some
John C Dvorak: Midwestern affectation.
Adam Curry: He kept saying chimney was a chimney chimney.
He's
John C Dvorak: got a chimney.
Adam Curry: Not a chimney is that chimney? Damn Kenny Ben
brought us that artwork. We really appreciate it. Stolen
cookies, the title of episode 1678. We had a hard time we had
a hard to be honest with you. We had a hard time finding anything
that we thought was. Now we did talk a lot about Darren O'Neal.
you'd liked his his Olympic boxes with the bed on it.
John C Dvorak: I thought it was outstanding. I
Adam Curry: thought it was too early because the Olympics
aren't happening yet. And it's a little absurd. We were talking
about the cardboard box where I didn't know the Rubik's cube by
Darren and all AI Of course, all AI
John C Dvorak: which Yeah, he's gone nuts he's gotten into he's
become a pump jockey. Yeah. But that's not the real controversy.
The controversy and I'm very irked about this as Matthew
dropped co
Adam Curry: Oh yes, because that's the first one we wanted.
Yeah.
John C Dvorak: And we took a look at it and you said, explain
what it is explain what it is. Okay, it's a picture of three
versions of Spider Man. We've all pointing at each other in
the meme. And one says local police departments Secret
Service have been they're all pointing at each other. So it's
their fault. And so you said, and we've stopped doing this, we
used to always almost routinely check on image search. Yeah, I
said, this is this has got to be something. And there's about
1000 versions of this all the exact same drawing. He just
stole it. I mean, it's so stolen is ridiculous. So now I can't
trust anything dropped code gives us
Adam Curry: well, to be fair, I mean, this is this meme has been
used so much in the past, but you saw it with local PD, Secret
Service, FBI, those three tags, or not?
John C Dvorak: No, I just said the art. It was just different
versions of the same thing. It's beside the point. Yeah, it
wasn't exactly the same. And now, obviously, nothing said no
agenda. It's just that it's just like, there was nothing
original. I mean, yeah, you could know. Now as far as I'm
concerned, it was it allowed
Adam Curry: me man was abandoners. Not
John C Dvorak: it's not what there was one or two of them.
We're talking 2030 4050
Adam Curry: has been around. This has been around, it's been
around, we're gonna get
John C Dvorak: called out by comic strip blogger
Adam Curry: that has stolen an Aardvark that is not original.
That is bad meme. College logger is about to never get you when
you upload 15 versions of your API, you know, all next to each
other. It's like my eyes glaze over. How
John C Dvorak: about this for an idea? Find? Only upload the good
one. Yeah,
Adam Curry: well, there you go. It's still you got to have soul.
It's got to have humor. Now just because it looks, you know,
slick, doesn't mean that it's good. Anyway, rant over. We
appreciate the true Dutch masters rant.
John C Dvorak: Yes. The true Dutch Master said there's
nothing we're going to be able to do about it. We're resigned
to resigned to the fact that this AI RT. Yeah. I mean, the
good side is that this costing the AI companies money, because
there's no way that you can produce that much material and
not be losing your ass.
Adam Curry: So one of our producers, I typically don't
like this because people do this to me, like, Hey, I sent every
back issue of QR Z Magazine to your Pio box is great, all that
ham radio information. So a box will show up with like 150 dusty
old magazines. And it's like, okay, I'm not divorced. I'm not
an archivist. But one of our producers sent me every single
back issue of Wired magazine that had some AI related story.
Pretty interesting. This nonsense this belief in you
know, in artificial intelligence has been going on for a long
time. And just because we got a bot that now can chat with you,
it's stupid. So you always had a bot that could share with you
exactly. All this image stuff. It's all gonna go away once the
funding dries up. Well,
John C Dvorak: one yet, if you're taking a beating, which
you have to be doing, yeah,
Adam Curry: at some point, but I'd have to spend 20 bucks a
month they got
John C Dvorak: 20 bucks that would Darren Oh Neil's using
1000s of dollars worth of cycle time to develop computer art
he's doing I don't know what comic strip bloggers it's called
Adam Curry: his pewter compute.
John C Dvorak: He commonage By the way, heard a new term. So
it's so JC is at the dinner table. And he keeps saying out
of the blue. He keeps saying this term. And I called him I
stopped him. I asked him, Where are you? What venture
capitalist? Did you get this room? And what I kept hearing
was, oh, yeah, well, the wind direction, the wind direction. I
kept hearing wind directions that like the term is the term
is when wind direction is a term they're using in Silicon Valley
now amongst the VCs.
Adam Curry: I mean, the direction of winning. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: The win direction. Wow. And I'm
listening to this. I'm saying because it's out of the blue. I
mean, he doesn't just start using some term out of the blue.
And I stopped, I said, Where did you get this, this stupid term
wind direction? And in a sudden he thought about he didn't say
it again. Wind
Adam Curry: erection? No, he's
John C Dvorak: saying when direction and I could just see
it as a kind of one of those bogus terms here. These guys
like to throw out there. Well, our wind direction will be
Adam Curry: Wow, that's even lamer than usual.
John C Dvorak: It's pretty blamed, but at the same time, I
can see it because it's just has a ring to it. I don't know who
dreams these, these these isolates up. But wind direction
is just like, Oh, we're gonna do Yeah, we're going to change our
wind direction because when our wind wind direction is stronger
than it used to be, you could use it in place of pivot, which
is another way a
Adam Curry: pivot was a big one. Yeah. Mm hmm. For a while there
in the advertising world, we had the conceit. What's the conceit
of the campaign? The conceit? Yes. The conceit of the
campaign. Oh, my God. I know. I know. They know. It's horrible.
Anyway, Treasurer time, we'd like to thank all of our
producers now we can't thank every single one of you. Because
we luckily, we have many people who are doing sustaining
donations. If everybody did that, we it'd be great. But
that's a pipe dream. It's not, that's not our wind direction.
On under $50, there already, I'm gonna keep using it. Under $50.
We don't mention anything for an anonymity and you can set up
your own frequency, your own amount, whatever value you get
out of the program, and I think we're, we've been people emails,
Hey, your wind direction is great these days. So we want to
thank those producers. We will we're gonna go through
everything in one go here because we went very long on in
the conspiracy therapy office. But our executive producers who
really always saved the day for us, and many of you saw the sad
Poppy come out and we thank you for that. We did okay. $200 and
above, you get an Associate Executive producer credit, it's
a real credit all these count towards your knighthood, even $1
a month if you want, I mean, everything will get you to
$1,000 Eventually, and then you get a knighthood or a dame hood
and a ring and your ceiling wax and the official certificate of
authenticity $300 above you and executive producer and now you
can use both of these producer credits at IMDb or you can put
in your LinkedIn or any other stupid social media thing you're
on and, and people will think you're very impressive. Because
you are an actual producer, and unlike Hollywood by the way,
anyone questions that you send them to us will vouch for you.
So we're going to start with our executive producers first and we
kick it off with our top producer with $600 Andrew
Alexandrou comes in from Santa Fe New Mexico 600 I have no note
from Andrew Alexander. And you don't have a note either, I
presume? Well,
John C Dvorak: I'm looking up everyone who's named Andrew
Yeah, it should be alone I gotta listen we got Andrew
Adam Curry: no okay. You got a double up karma then he's got
Karma
John C Dvorak: can read the I gotta read this subject and one
of them another Andrew says kid on roof never hit Trump's Here
catch up. Catch up ketchup. Okay, we go to Cody oz burn Ozy
br n parts unknown. 350 93 ITM responding to the call for aid.
Only been listening for seven months or so. But thanks for all
you both do. I need the most drastic baby making karma you
guys can muster. My wife is 60 and she is beyond pissed. Let's
make it happen. And Godspeed. All All right.
Adam Curry: Let's get her pitch.
Unknown: You've got perma
Adam Curry: free funny Cody. Danielle parks Frederick,
Maryland. 343 dot 75. Hello. She says, you often mentioned the
importance of parents getting their kids out of traditional
schools and I agree 100% No jingles but yet karma would be
appreciated for all us parents trying to keep our kids from
being indoctrinated. Yes. Parents in the DMV
John C Dvorak: and the DMV? I think that's mess. Maryland,
Virginia District of Columbia. Ah,
Adam Curry: okay. It's not like Department of Motor Vehicles.
Okay, gotcha. Yes. That Yes. Maryland. Yes. seeking ways to
do that. Sure. Check out Apogee Hoko. A p o gechoco.org. It's an
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kind to include it in the show notes. Sure, I will. Thanks and
keep up the great work and again, Apogee, apo GEHO co.org,
and some yet karma for y'all.
Unknown: You've got karma
John C Dvorak: Baron Fox bat in Cincinnati 3437. Five. Hey, John
and Adam Barron Fox bat here. It's been a while since
donating, so I decided to respond to the sad puppy. Thank
you. John, if you consider getting together with someone
like Andrew Oh, and doing a tech podcast would be great. That
would be great. That man with a tan.
Adam Curry: Andrew Orlovsky, I guess, could
John C Dvorak: be Andrew Andrew. We talk every so often. Yeah,
it'd be it would be a different kind of tech podcast, but I've
given up on the idea of tech podcasting. I think nobody
cares.
Adam Curry: I had an order last, I think, I don't know if I
clipped it. He was on some podcasts. And he was he was
saying exactly what I said about AI. He said, Ah, AI has been
around for 10 years, but then there's some parlor trick where
all of a sudden that sounds like a human everyone loses their
crap and invest a trillion dollars. He's like, This is
dumb. It's not going to work. And who is the man?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's been very skeptical of lots of
technologies. And
Adam Curry: rightly so. Baron sir Good fellow, Davenport.
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John C Dvorak: Bill of Ohio and Columbus. Three, three 3.33 ITM
and two years ago, yesterday, July 20, I hosted a central Ohio
Michigan meetup, which introduced I'm sorry, Central
Ohio, meet up the Michigan two, which introduced me to a bunch
of wonderful people as the people I have met along with the
show have kept me sane is these past few years although sanity
is overrated. Special thanks to Sir Leary for keeping the
planning and organizing of the central Ohio meetups going
consistently. Come to one. prove you're not a fed and join the
local troll room. That connection is protection. I
shall be henceforth known it as Wild Bill is getting knighted of
Ohio de douceur of Joe Rogan. Also it's my 37th birthday
strippers and nonfat no blow please swell bill of Ohio de
douche yes de douche or of Joe Rogan. Does
Adam Curry: he needed dilution? No,
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
Adam Curry: Hey there, sir era Darien from finely. Yes, in
California Associate Executive Producer to under $50. He says
thank you. Well, thank you, sir era.
Unknown: Thank you. Thank you.
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John C Dvorak: John by in Golden Colorado to 1060. Thinking about
the stopping of JDS good news segment corresponded with some
bad happening. Probably the best best to bring it back to make
the world a smiley, happy place. Today, and
Adam Curry: I think it's a very valid point ever since we
stopped doing good news the world has gone nuts. That's not
it. That's not as interesting thought. Then we have Eli the
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you do for your neighbors is what you do. There they hit the
blue screen. Yeah, remote worker. So their computers they
left them on
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Unknown: You've got karma.
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Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's go
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Unknown: got karma.
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that concludes our executive and Associate Executive producers
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Adam Curry: on the background there what noise Am I hearing?
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Unknown: is this. We go out. We had people in the mouth
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Unknown: so we have a
Adam Curry: number of meetup reports. Remember, these are the
producer organized meetups where people get together hang out. It
is your local community, typically, although some people
drive hours just to go to some of these. And we finally got a
full report from the Amsterdam, the Netherlands meetup where I
attended which was over a month ago now I think, so I might as
well play it since they sent it in and did all the work in the
morning. Hey, everybody, this is a crackpot. I am filled with
hookers and blow what a great meetup. I
Unknown: just deduced myself up
in the morning life, from Texas to labor in the morning, hey,
I'm
gonna talk to Neil. Hey, listen, I'm looking for the Dutch
masters here. Have you seen them? Can you then or Darren or
mu or networks or Francisco Scaramanga? Have you seen them?
I can find them.
Now the welcome home
morning Sellersburg was Big Mike.
This is the most crazy pizza
I came here to take the screaming goat home John I
followed your advice I bought Alexis
in the morning, Dutchess are
awesome hi this is surplus I deny everything I got hairy legs
sir hair go nuts
in the morning connection is protecting sir Ron Lauren years.
I found out that cannabis actually gateway drug tobacco
cigars
again connections in the morning and this has got to be the
longest
meet up report ever.
I like my old Lexus. And I love what to do.
Hey, Caroline, having a blast of the time in the morning.
Fantastic second you been
Adam Curry: tired? I was really tired. You can tell why I was
tired after that after that meetup. These people are high
maintenance but super fun. And didn't turn to Neil sounds
sweet. And a lot of people drive like sigh from the Netherlands
we go to Sonoma Wine Oh counter a country
Unknown: in the morning. This is Sir recalcitrant crazy Steve the
second here at the Sonoma Wine Oh country made up 4.0. And
we're all convinced there was a second shooter.
Suresh Meister here in beautiful Sonoma County,
sir monta can join a beautiful afternoon.
This is a dude named Ben named Ben Cal San Francisco soon to be
Duke of San Francisco and may the second shooter was using the
drone
is Brian from work. I think there might have been third,
fourth and fifth shooters. next meetup will be at OCAs chairs.
This is Cynthia from naughty wine accessories. If she doesn't
care about any of that. Thank you.
John, And the Lord.
Adam Curry: We stay in California for the San Diego
Mita.
Unknown: Connie ago go
in the morning. This
is Ryan in the morning. This
is Tim in the morning, sir Mike and congratulations. Kania. Gogo
in the morning de mon. In the morning Dean Kelly of the
crushed grapes.
In the morning everybody. We're here at the Santiago meet up a
little Ron Burgundy reference for y'all. Enjoy yourselves. And
over now. See
Adam Curry: these meetups even have their own language. It's
amazing what's going on? They sent a picture along with this
meetup report. The Chicago meetup. The Chicago crew is that
good looking crew
Unknown: service in Chicago.
Hi, David Gordy here in the morning in the morning. This is
Sir NBS in Chicago representing down by the river in the
morning. This is Laura from Green Bay Sir Brian with a while
doing it live. Hi, William.
In the morning, morning.
And someone will edit that right yeah,
Adam Curry: sure. I always edit everything when necessary. No
problem at all. Thank you so much for sending in your Meetup
reports. We have a couple of meetups taking place. Let me see
to day it being Sunday Margarita meet up two o'clock. It's
underway at Palm Beach Gardens Florida. Linares, Alton Hello
everybody there. We have East Central Illinois. Their Meetup
is underway at triptych brewing. I think it is in Savoy,
Illinois, North Georgia monthly start to six o'clock at Cherry
Street brewing Alpharetta, Georgia. And a special mention
let me see we have I want to mention that we have the Houston
meetup coming on August 3, I think is that the Houston meetup
that something was coming up on the 11th as well. But there's
we've got Oshkosh on July 26. We've got visa Baden, Germany
Hello, here's the half of East Boston July 27. La on the 27th
Ironton, Minnesota Mount Juliet, Tennessee Columbus, Ohio, Tokyo
Shibuya, Japan on the 27th need to meet up report followed by
the 28th Trinidad and Tobago Trinidad, Amsterdam, the
Netherlands on the third of August Edmonds, Washington,
Norwich Vermont Norwood, Massachusetts, Houston, Texas,
Garden City, Idaho on the 10th Keyport, New Jersey on the 11th
Keene New Hampshire on the 11th Alberni California. That's
another get John out of the house meet up August 17. And
we're into September galega, Lita, California and Tucson
Arizona many more to come. Many more to be found. You can even
start one yourself if you can't find one near you. The no agenda
meetups, no agenda meetups.com Always a party to
Unknown: go hang out with you.
You say?
Adam Curry: Yes, indeed. It's like a party. And guess what?
You're going to win the ISO today because today I have zero
ISOs.
John C Dvorak: Okay, I win, then. Yes. Thank you.
Adam Curry: Which one do you win with? Oh, are we here? I
shouldn't have it's here.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, let's start with I got two versions of
thanks. I got one and to start with one. Thanks
Unknown: so much for being here. Okay,
that too. Yeah.
Thanks for having me. Glad we're on. Okay.
John C Dvorak: Okay. Well, I think and then we have a a sent
in by a producer. The what to
Unknown: clip.
What the hell was that? Go?
Adam Curry: I got that one too. I discarded it. I'm like, well,
that's Family Guy. I mean, I'm not going to use that. I'm not
going to insult you. But you did it. Well, I
John C Dvorak: used it instead.
Adam Curry: Thanks so much for being here. I'm going to use
that one if you don't mind. I think I think that's the best
one. All right, everybody. This may be the last time but that's
all on you.
Unknown: Just JC?
Adam Curry: I hope it's not I hope it's not the last time I
hope you're not thwarted by these people who just say nasty
things. I mean, get used to it be your your celebrity your
superstar. I
John C Dvorak: decided to go with the most obscure thing I
can come up with today. Okay. And that is an antiseptic that
would get you get people talk and because of his they saw it
is always tends to be the label tends to be in Russian. Okay.
And as a product, you can look this up on Wikipedia so you can
find out the details about it. It's a it's actually a dye
called brilliant green. It's used in Ukraine and Russia for
anything that happens on your skin. It kills all gram negative
bacteria. It prevents the flesh eating bacteria kills staph does
all this stuff on the draw.
Adam Curry: It kills staph infection. Yeah. Because
normally you have to be on like antibiotics for a month and you
can't just
John C Dvorak: stuff on it. You believe me? The gag. This came
the original tip comes from my friend. Therefore I'm not my
friend. Well, I do know him. David Duncan, who was lived in
Ukraine for a couple of years, and talked about he got his hand
got impaled. And he ended up getting the doctor so just puts
it put the green stuck the green goo they call it their what's it
called? What's
Adam Curry: your product name again?
John C Dvorak: brilliant green. Soylent Green. brilliant green.
Brilliant and it's a die. Ah. Wow. And it went why just dies?
Yeah. And so this it's used by everybody and a heals everything
that is skin situation like
Adam Curry: windex for white people.
John C Dvorak: Well, the product drawback is it's a green dye.
And it leaves Lee is it takes three or four days before it
rubs off. But it's a very effective wow, if you can get it
you're gonna have to talk to your Russian friends to find it
because it's so cheap to make that the pharmaceutical
companies won't even touch it because they can there's no
profit in it.
Adam Curry: I can hear sir Jean whipping up a website already.
Sir G
John C Dvorak: knows about this. I guarantee it. And once again
you asked him he decided that Oh, yeah. Everybody uses that
stuff.
Adam Curry: What's it called again?
John C Dvorak: brilliant green. brilliant green is also has a
slang term is a link as e l e n k consult Linka. Wow.
Adam Curry: Well, that's a good tip. I hope you keep it up. I'm
sure to get lots of a bunch of great
Unknown: tip of the day. Thanks for listening.
Y'all come back now you hear
Adam Curry: please do come back y'all for Another tip of the
day, although I agree that ever since we stopped doing the good
news segment the world has just gone downhill. Scary. Scary, so
scary. All right, you're up to speed and you're spun down.
That's the way we like to see. Everybody take care. We'll be
learning lots more about Joe quitting and then we'll have we
got a nice three days before it will four days, I guess Monday,
Tuesday about three days. Until the next show. I'm looking
forward to it. Life is about to get super interesting. As if it
wasn't already. In the film mix. Chris Wilson DS laughs and Jesse
Coyne Nelson. Remember everybody? It's not a glitch.
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John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain
I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: We'll see you here on Thursday. Remember us and no
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until then adios mofos Oui oui. And such blaming glitch and I
did this work in 10 minutes it wasn't that hard to find blame
John C Dvorak: it on the glitch. Yeah, well reporters don't hear
this kind of okay, here's a song I
Unknown: was gonna keep going with Interledger
John C Dvorak: said the song idea. Find this song It's
Michael Jackson blame it on the boogie to blame it on the
glitch.
Unknown: If you can't take that in,
I think it can be done
Adam Curry: it can be blamed on the button.
John C Dvorak: Now this sounds too similar. I can hear that
three rights and lyrics to get the
Unknown: rhymes right. Chris pop in another beer as we speak. To
blame it on the bass. Don't blame it on the law firm or
blame it on the glitch don't blame it on the law firm over
blame it on the glitch
guys becoming alcoholics and stealing stuff from the show.
Drunk don't worry about
read the article about the cost of connection the power of
podcast 2.0 is protection producing takes planning and
promotion provision that dimension to my father who had
an initial vision for all practical purposes they made a
decision if he doesn't win the peace process we'll look back
with revisions and now when that canard presented my membership,
we don't need a Costco card local plague is coming back to
your review paper by these cool pens and think tanks are to
combat the fact check and the journalists have been captured
in this aspect. There was something that conspiring to
silence the scientists a climate denier book column denialists Do
you believe with all your heart Are you a buyer and now you buy
in this general consensus science belies a liar or lie of
risk potentials and expertise the information dam is cracking
I mean come on please pause and centralize similar to Swiss
cheese. Centralized similar to Swiss cheese a eyes do and work
up in the sky generate of AGI overload the nation grid and
upgrade the power supply as Google's greenhouse gas
emissions bootie judge is making so many bonehead decisions
500,000 charging stations we got that one know someone who wanted
to make America needs to go down with AC renewable What's the
benefit of this energy?
Adam Curry: That's where we're going you don't need to have
don't need to have the biggest numbers don't need to be at the
top of the leaderboard or the rancor it's just not necessary.
In this new model.
Unknown: You're a mean one.
Glitch glitch glitch glitch glitch.
Frustrated target customers stuck in long lines when a
computer glitch caused problems at checkout. Taxpayers waited
till the last day to pay Uncle Sam may have suffered some
digital distress Tuesday. The US internal revenue services
computers were hit with a glitch hit up the midnight tax
deadline.
Did you guys get affected by this? I really want to know how
many people got affected by
the Facebook glitch in the past week.
You're a mean one.
John C Dvorak: Leaks, glitch glitch glitch glitch glitch
ditch
Unknown: technical glitch that caused chaos at London airports
on Friday has now been fixed and air traffic control systems are
returning to normal. They were
deployed longer than any other combat unit in Iraq and now
they're fighting the Pentagon over benefits. Their their
ployment orders were written for 729 days. That happens to be one
day short of the 730 days needed to qualify for benefits under
the GI Bill. Well tonight the The army is telling NBC News
they predict this glitch will be fixed and the guardsmen will be
eligible for those benefits.
John C Dvorak: But I think the big glitch, the major glitch,
the Whopper is going to supersede everything you said.
And that is the automated update of Windows Windows. That seems
down everything that
Unknown: oppo for.org/and
Thanks so much for being here.