John C Dvorak: Let's have a meeting. Adam curry Jhansi
Devorah to 23rd 2020
Adam Curry: for this award winning combination media
assassination episode 1671
Unknown: This is no agenda
Adam Curry: and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas
hill country here in the Marines and number six in the morning
everybody I'm Adam curry is from
John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon Valley where everybody knows
that tea is good for you. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: Buzzkill. No, it's not. Me It's not a tea is good
for you. This this is not a fact. It is
John C Dvorak: asking a Chinese person.
Adam Curry: Okay. You got a lot of them around there. Yeah, you
got. Have you heard about your Chinese person in Oakland?
John C Dvorak: She's among.
Adam Curry: She's Ma, she's not Chinese. She's manga. She's
John C Dvorak: Hmong which is the Cambodian ethnic group.
Adam Curry: Okay, I thought it was pretty I thought the whole I
thought the whole story where you want to hear this story? I
actually I
John C Dvorak: clipped it for you. You should play it because
I don't think anybody knows it.
Adam Curry: No, this is a part of the season of reveal. As sees
John C Dvorak: more like the season to corruption, but go
ahead.
Unknown: It's been 48 hours since the FBI raided the home of
Oakland Mayor Shang Tao along with at least two other
locations, and the mayor is nowhere to be seen. We
still don't know exactly what the FBI was looking for.
Yesterday, we heard the mayor side of the story sort of she
did hire an attorney, former prosecutor Tony brass, he
suggested that there is no evidence that tau is the target
investigation, and that she had no idea was even happening. It
was my assumption that she would have been asked for information
or documents or devices if they were needed, and that she must
have refused that if they got a search warrant. So I'm quite
surprised that the search warrant was the first she'd
heard of this investigation. The optics are bad, but the fact is
that she is going to cooperate with the investigation that she
would have done that in the first place. Bras also
said Mayor Tao is working from a remote location because of the
media circus around the raids and that she will release a
statement sometime next week. So
Adam Curry: what's great about this story is so she is among
would you say Mung Tao Chuck Tao Rishi, mung Mung what is
John C Dvorak: the difference? m o n g, what
Adam Curry: is the difference between Chinese and manga?
John C Dvorak: Well, the Hmong are Cambodian, which is anything
but Chinese. No, it's the south southeast Asian, all that whole,
that whole area that he's not Chinese,
Adam Curry: do they eat sushi?
John C Dvorak: No, I don't think so. All right, but whatever
that's beside the point. The mine were kind of escaped from
Cambodia during the period of Pol Pot in other situations, and
they there's lots of Hmong and in the San Francisco Bay area,
in fact, if you go to a farmers market, two or three of the
stalls are Hmong and they, they're great if you check with
their people, the Hmong are great people. This has got to be
a huge humiliation. Well, the Hmong population in the San
Francisco Bay area because this woman is apparently corrupt.
Well,
Adam Curry: wait, but wait, But wait, there's more. It's not
her. Yeah, this is this is the follow up story. It's not her.
It's the boyfriend. Yeah, you didn't know that. Did you?
John C Dvorak: Well, I didn't I actually I didn't hear this part
of it. But I can say this is that they've been trying to
recall her long before this investigation began because
she's got some screw Enos about her. Yeah, including the net,
you know, having some hard on regarding the ex chief of police
and some other issues with the police department. And there's
been a recall going on for at least six months. And so
there's, yeah, maybe the boyfriend's got something to do
with it, but she's suspicious. Well,
Adam Curry: we have a we have a former chief of staff who is
blowing the whistle. And they've got great video of her, I guess
during her her election, or I guess when she was chosen,
elected as mayor, and he's behind her leaning over like
whispering in her ear like, yeah, tell him tell him this.
Now, it helps that he's black. It just makes the whole thing
fabulous.
Unknown: When Nia Webb worked closely with and had access to
shame town that few people have for a year and four months. Webb
served this town's right hand person working as chief of staff
when Tao was the district for council member websites she
volunteered and spent countless hours on tells me your old
campaign in 2022. She says she also led House transition team
after Tao won the election. A lot
of what's coming out now is the reason I resigned shortly
thereafter, winning Bella Action. She
was more sad than surprised about FBI agents rating towels
home on Thursday.
I wasn't surprised. I was like finally. Finally, the truth is
coming out
where the truth was Taos boyfriend Andre Jones of being
the mastermind and running pay to play schemes during Taos
campaign for mayor. And after she wants.
I had found out that Andre her boyfriend was promising people
jobs in our administration, promising people appointments on
different commissions and boards from out of the mouths of people
that told me they were promised positions. They were promised
board positions and at the mouth of what they would always
entree. Yeah, that was who they say Andre promised me this
web claims Jones was controlling and calling the shots. She says
town went along with him. It said
he's making her do things pushing her to do things that I
don't believe she would do otherwise.
Adam Curry: Blame it on the boyfriend. Blame it on the man
John C Dvorak: blame it on the black guy. Yeah, exactly. Oh,
brother.
Adam Curry: He looks pretty shady. I gotta tell you that
they got good video of him like whispered in your ear. Yeah, now
blame it on the boyfriend. It's great. It's fantastic.
John C Dvorak: We all it'll shake out eventually they
they've raided a number of places. I think his house may
have been one of them. But yeah, this has been going on for about
a week or two. So she's not to be found. Now. She's no, no.
Adam Curry: remote location is in Cambodia? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: she's in Cambodia.
Adam Curry: So we're kind of in the summer doldrums. Although,
you know, right now, the it's the big teams, most of the New
York elite, certainly the news elite, they're all off to the
Hamptons. You know, we've got July 4 weekend coming up, we're
only going to really focus on one thing, which is all the
debate. So all the news is that debate, the debate, oh Trump in
the debate. And so instead of doing what we used to do during
the summer months, I remember quite well when I was a kid. And
I think you remember this as well. When we hit the summer, it
will be hot. And we'd show you know pictures of people at the
beach. Kids at the swimming pool. You got some poor fire
hydrant or kids in the fire hydrant. Exactly, exactly. And
be like wow, it's hot. And maybe that would be a joke, wasn't it?
Who was it that said sons of beaches. Remember that whole
summer when it was it was that Reagan was that one of the
Presidents called someone on an open mic a son of a b and then
you know the weather guys are gonna ha it's gonna be son on
the beaches.
John C Dvorak: Anyway, remember that at all? I have to look at
that. I've looked that one up. So
Adam Curry: instead they're so lazy now we got cop 29 coming up
in November in Baku. So instead of just showing the fun little,
you know, swimming pool the beaches, it's everyone having a
good time. It's hard. It's right. It's hard. The old frying
an egg on the pavement in New York. I mean, we've this is what
we used to do in the summer. No. Now it's extreme heat climate
change. Breaking
Unknown: overnight. Amtrak says two train lines between Newark,
New Jersey and New York City are canceled until further notice.
Due to an equipment failure that will surely take a toll on
today's commute during the extreme heat extreme service has
been restored along the rest of the Northeast Corridor after
yesterday's power failure was shut down service. Meanwhile,
Metro operators in the Washington DC area had to slow
down their trains concern the extreme heat would expand the
rails and no relief today, ties could hit 96 In parts of the
Northeast, and we're expecting mostly 90 degree readings across
the Midwest, parts of the Upper Midwest are dealing with extreme
flooding, including Minnesota, and more storms are expected
today. We'll check your forecast in just a few moments. It's
Adam Curry: all extreme. It's so hot, even though it's three
weeks later than normally these hot temperatures come in. We can
still make it sound like there's something of a crisis going on.
Unknown: And you start this off on the dangerous temperatures in
the air quality alerts in parts of the country. Ginger, good
morning. Hey,
good morning here in New York City. We had our first official
90 of the season. And while that was three and a half weeks
behind average look at this shot from New York City now that
we've broken the Seal of 90 degrees from web from the
helicopter there. It's hazy, hot and humid. We should stay above
90 throughout the weekend, which would be then our first official
heatwave.
Adam Curry: I mean, it's it's it's later than usual, but it's
a heatwave. It's our first 90 We've unsealed it. Oh, no.
John C Dvorak: But you know, callate we've topped all this in
California. Oh, you have? Yeah, well, I mean, right now it's
cold out of course. You know, that's typical. But no, do we
decide to pass a law.
Adam Curry: You got a law? What kind of law did you get? It
John C Dvorak: played the clip of California law. Second,
California
Adam Curry: law.
Unknown: And a new rule is in effect in California protecting
people who work indoors from dangerous heat. Oh amperes l
100. Maroondah has more
more than a million people in California work jobs indoors
that expose them to the kind of heat that can make people sick.
Tim Shaddix is the legal director at the warehouse worker
Resource Center in southern California, in the States, 1000s
of warehouses, the
worst places we've seen, you know, in the summer, those
workplaces, they're kind of they're like a tin can baking in
the sun. Employers will now
have to provide water and cooldown spaces for employees
when it's above 82 degrees past 87. They'll have to find ways to
cool workspaces.
John C Dvorak: They have to do this at 82 degrees. You realize
that people go to Hawaii, because it's 82 degrees all the
time. Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful. It's 82 degrees,
which is like the perfect temperature. You know, if you
want to just enjoy your life. No, no, now it's like a
disaster. Yeah. And then if it's seven, ah, we don't know what
we're gonna do. Some
Unknown: employers will now have to provide water and cooldown
spaces for employees when it's above 82 degrees past 87 They'll
have to find ways to cool workspaces with tools like fans
or air conditioning or just work requirements.
Adam Curry: Once you say it then fans air conditioner,
John C Dvorak: or air conditioner,
Unknown: or just work requirements work is to work
work
John C Dvorak: requirement now there was slow down it's like a
union Slow down, slow down.
Adam Curry: Gotta boots on the ground from one of our
producers. He says, you know, as Josh, I was listening to 1670 in
the New York heat wave as someone who's worked outside for
14 years in southern Arizona, I have little boots on the ground.
John C Dvorak: Arizona and that's fine. There we go.
Adam Curry: When this heat dome pass through, it was toasty.
Sure, but local news and radio blasted out excessive heat
warnings and dangerous heat wave. What was the high in
Tucson on those days? 102. I've lived in Tucson since 2007.
ridden motorcycles year round. Sure it's warm. But I know for a
fact the first time I heard an excessive heat warning warming
warning. It was issued when we were going to hit 118 The last
few years still working outside of notice excessive heat
warnings being issued over 110 Always that's always thought to
myself That's strange. That seems lower than it used to be,
but it could never remember at what point they issued the heat
warnings Well, since it was registered my mind 110 When they
issued the 102 Excessive Heat warning a couple of weeks ago. I
couldn't believe it. That's a nice day in the middle of summer
for Tucson. So he's I agree everybody's temperature
everybody's noticing this. But that's a
John C Dvorak: scam. This is ridiculous. The new news media
is off the rails. Well, we need
Adam Curry: to keep our eye on this because this is where
they're gonna. They're gonna get us with this nonsense. And we're
laughing at it but we can't just laugh about it because it's
killing the new commerce.
Unknown: Parts of the US and Mexico are in the grip of a
searing heatwave with the Northeast United States seeing
record high temperatures on the southern border with Mexico and
arid climate already means hot weather. But now that heat has
turned deadly for migrants attempting to cross the border
migrants.
Adam Curry: No, not even illegal migrants migrants. This
migrants. It's killing the newcomers. They're dying out
there of heat exhaustion. And at the United Nations, they have a
survey which shows something that I don't think anybody
believes the
Unknown: recent heat waves we've been across Europe, Asia, and
now the eastern half of the US are no surprise to climate
scientists and UN officials.
off the highway to climates. Yes, we exceed Dominus 100 over
Maine and New Brunswick, Canada, so that's where the most intense
departure from average is going to occur.
The record temperatures across Asia Europe and the Middle East
have reportedly caused hundreds of deaths, including many Muslim
pilgrims attending the harsh at the Grand Mosque in Mecca. Saudi
state TV reported temperatures hitting nearly 52 degrees
Celsius. But we
concluded from the studies that human induced warming from
burning fossil fuels made the five day maximum temperature
event about 1.4 degrees hotter than it used to be. In the pre
industrial period.
A new UN report surveyed more than 75,000 people across 77
countries 80% or four out of five people globally want their
governments to take stronger actions to tackle the climate
crisis.
Over half of people said they think about the climate crisis
either daily or weekly, and two thirds say that they incorporate
decisions around their, their lives, what their where they
live, what, what, where they work, what they buy,
by taking into account the climate crisis? Do
Adam Curry: they take into account the climate crisis? Or
do they take into account the weather? I'm gonna think it's
the weather. Oh, look at this cute top. Let me think that
would be perfect for the climate crisis this summer. This is so
ridiculous. You know,
John C Dvorak: the other thing is about these deaths at the
Adam Curry: highs. I went all the people die in there.
John C Dvorak: There's always it and they're usually from out of
town because the locals in the Middle East.
Adam Curry: What do you what are you from around here?
John C Dvorak: You're not from around there. They're from
Indonesia. You know, the big Muslim country in the world is
Indonesia. And there's other countries they got a lot of a
lot of Muslims, they go to the Hajj once in their life. Yeah.
And then they did stay out. There never been to the Middle
East. And they don't know you don't even go outside between my
tickets like 1130 and four. And it's unbelievable.
Adam Curry: They had a lot of a lot of reports on the BBC when I
was still over there. I'm back in Texas, obviously when I was
still over there. And it was about these people who had died
and they had a horrible stories like some grandma who's 72
called with a last dying breath called her daughter. You know,
as she she she dies on the phone. And what most of them
were talking about was that they had no illegal tour operators
who weren't officially sanctioned to bring people over
to the Hajj. As like some people scamming them and like not
giving them water and shelter. Wow. Yeah, yeah.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're basically murderers.
Adam Curry: So I just want to stick with the climate crisis
here. Joy re read had an interesting twist on the on the
money scamming being done off of this,
Unknown: that will begin tonight with the lucrative Politics of
Climate collapse and the greed that is literally letting our
country burn. Okay.
Adam Curry: So instead of people ripping us off for this
nonsense, she's just twisted it around. I think that's what we
call gaslighting.
Unknown: Today. Millions of Americans from Iowa to Maine are
suffering through heat warnings or advisories full on
Adam Curry: stop. She's correct. We're only suffering through the
warnings, not the actual heat. That's exactly
John C Dvorak: what I noticed. There's suffering from heat
warnings
Adam Curry: and advisories. I am suffering from that.
Unknown: Yes. Today. Millions of Americans from Iowa to Maine are
suffering through heat warnings, watches or advisories, cities
across half of the country like Chicago, St. Louis, in the
apple, Indianapolis, Detroit, Philly, and now New York, are
hitting temperatures exceeding 90 degrees.
Oh, no.
It feels closer to 100.
Adam Curry: This, this feels like it has got to stop. I mean,
this feels like
John C Dvorak: a good point. That is that has become a common
occurrence. Yeah. Feels
Adam Curry: feels like and it's like, do you really know the
difference between 92 and 100? A feel and why does it feels like
is that because of the wet bulb is that? Well, we're back to now
feels like
John C Dvorak: that's what I'm guessing are hitting
Unknown: temperatures exceeding 90 degrees Fahrenheit. So it
feels closer to 100. Many of these cities could experience
heat indexes hitting 105 degrees,
Adam Curry: HEAT indexes, mind you heat indexes. That's not the
temperature. It's the heat index. 105
Unknown: degrees by Sunday looks increasingly oppressive hot days
article incidents. They are they are the predictable impact of
the climate crisis.
Adam Curry: Oops, you flubbed that one too, which is
interesting is
Unknown: increasingly oppressive. hot days aren't a
coincidence. They aren't. They are the predictable impacts of
climate crisis. And they're not just an inconvenience. They're
also killing us at higher rates, killing us heat related deaths
among older Americans have increased 54% In recent decades.
In Florida, changing weather patterns are bombarding the
southern tip of the state with a seemingly never ending series of
storms that have left whole streets flooded cars crippled
and two people dead. In California, more than 20 fires
sparked across the state since Saturday. We're running over
20,000 acres.
John C Dvorak: But we have 300 million people in this country.
We had two people dead. Yeah,
Adam Curry: but you know, hey, it could have been you and
listen to the fires
Unknown: in California. More than 20 fires were sparked
across the state since Saturday, burning over whizzes 1000 acres.
These aren't just climate stories. They're actually
economic stories because people are getting paid good money to
ignore them. Ah
ha
John C Dvorak: money for ignoring it.
Adam Curry: Well thinks she's talking about us these
podcasters good money,
John C Dvorak: but we're not getting any we're not getting
good money. The least. No
Adam Curry: kidding. Well, there's part two to this
Unknown: not only a big donors bought themselves, some
politicians, they got some podcasters in their pocket too.
But they've also bought themselves a federal judiciary
that cares more about rich corporations and wealthy donors
than they do about your health and well being. The Supreme
Court is the most pro oligarch of All Time Pro
Adam Curry: oligarch of all. So this is some this is some good
script writing. I mean, she's really nailing it with the heat
index and the fields like and and the old pro oligarch. I
guess he's talking about the Supreme Court. We do have an
interesting twist, although she won't mention it by name.
Unknown: The six Leonard Leo, Justices Barrett, Kavanaugh,
Gorsuch, Alito, Roberts, and Thomas, have the most I repeat
the most pro big business voting records in the history of the
court.
Adam Curry: Is that true? Can we verify that you can verify that
the most pro business will oligarch this is again,
John C Dvorak: this is all about the Chevron deference? Right.
Adam Curry: Listen, listen.
Unknown: They've ruled that corporations are people that the
Environmental Protection Agency cannot protect you from
pollution, and they're ready to stop
John C Dvorak: it. At least three of those justices weren't
involved in the corporations are people decision. Yeah, they were
on their own three dates. It predates Dorset, it predates
good Kashmir, it predates the other way. Leader, good catch,
so she's a liar. No. Stop rambling.
Unknown: Our mental protection agency cannot protect you from
pollution. And they're ready to go even further by stifling the
regulatory power of all federal agencies.
Adam Curry: stifling the power, I can't wait for Chevron
deference to come up. That's going to be it's going to be so
John C Dvorak: cool to freak out though is it's weird. Why? Why
is she or anybody else defending the bureaucratic state? Is
Adam Curry: it because possibly, that really is the deep state
and this is where they get their, their information from?
And this isn't, you know, they've got their buddies on the
inside. I mean, it's all whenever Veritas now what is the
name? O'Keefe? Whenever O'Keefe gets someone, which is usually
some poor gay guy, it's always someone from inside the admin.
Yeah, inside these agencies. Yeah. So you've got to think
that that's probably where the news media gets everything from
and that CIA is also an agency FBI is an agency, all these
agencies are? Well, I'm not so sure about the CIA and FBI, but
But EPA department education, I mean, Department of Homeland
Security, these are all these are all on they're all on the
block potentially.
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, this would be a CIA and FBI wouldn't
be. They're not doing policy, so much as no secret police work.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Round shirt stuff.
John C Dvorak: But it's like this freak out still. And I will
repeat this complaint of mine, which is that we never had this
Chevron deference before 1984. And we had plenty of these
agencies. I was one of more in one in one of them. And they got
along just fine. Famously, they didn't need anything any special
help now was and then they got the special help. And it was
ironic because it was when the EPA was pulled back with the
rains where they were pulled in by the Reagan administration to
do less regulating. That's when they get when the suit happened.
It was just kind of the Beyond ironic. And then they realized
that they could make hay with this and so once the Democrats
gotten in power then they went the other direction nobody could
do anything about it. But before 1984 there was not an issue why
is it now suddenly an issue?
Adam Curry: Well, NPR is on the is starting to wise up to a
couple of things mainly the scam that is the carbon offsets,
which I mean, you can buy this on your plane trip ticket when
you rent cars. There's all kinds of different places well once
you add a 2% or 5% and save the earth if you've ever wondered if
that's a scam, people who get whooped you ever wonder if
that's a scam? listen to NPR first of what
Unknown: really is a carbon offset.
I spoke to Danny Colin ward at UPenn about this. He says an
offset is basically a promise.
It's a promise that somebody else did something good
somewhere else that resulted in a climate benefit.
It could be a promise that someone protected a forest That
would have been cut down, or a promise that someone made a wind
farm and switch from fossil fuels. The key promise being
your money is actually reducing or removing a planet heating
pollution, like that carbon dioxide pollution from your
flight or your car rental. But Barbara hya at UC Berkeley says
there's a problem.
Most offsets don't represent what they claim. There are
two big ways many offsets can be false promises. First, many
offset projects over estimate their impact. For example, many
offset projects that claim they're saving forests from
deforestation, research finds many are getting money for
forests that don't actually need protection. So then
is there any actual accountability? If a carbon
offset company makes a climate claim? That's false? Is there a
way for consumers to take action? Or is there enforcement
here? In
California, there is a bill in the state assembly right now.
All those promises of climate benefits that carbon offset
companies make this bill would make those claims legally
enforceable.
Adam Curry: So there's still time to get in. I think we
didn't Isn't this where the whole net for humanity came
from? This is not where the whole idea came?
John C Dvorak: Yes. I think there was one. That was like, I
think we did that a little over a decade ago. Let me check on
mine. If you remember, there was a vending machines at airports,
they all disappeared, that we're selling carbon offsets. So when
you took your flight, how many miles you're going and you get a
little coupon that said, you you you thank you, you save the
Earth
Adam Curry: 2017 I think is when we first got that jingling. So
we were probably talking about it in 2016. And the whole idea
was you could have no agenda producers take a nap because
it'd be less carbon dioxide exuded. And, and that will be
carbon offset. And so it seems like there's no regulation it's
it's a bonanza, it's a free for all. Let's listen to some more
from NPR.
Unknown: That feels like a big problem if your money isn't
actually reducing as much climate pollution as the offset
claims. What's the other issue?
Something called permanent offsets are supposed to reduce
or remove carbon dioxide pollution, right? The carbon
dioxide, some carbon dioxide stays in the atmosphere hundreds
of years, some co2 sticks around even longer.
Adam Curry: Wait, some co2 sticks around for 1000s of
years? What is this magical dust? By the way, I think the
troll room was right. It must have been much earlier than
2017.
John C Dvorak: It must it must have been I think it was over 10
years. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Oh, no, I think you're right. Let's go back to
this this carbon dioxide that hangs around for 1000 years.
Unknown: Some co2 sticks around even longer 1000s of years
1000s.
Adam Curry: How do they know it? Is there still Jesus carbon
dioxide hanging around?
Unknown: Here's the thing. The vast majority of carbon offsets
only promised to remove or store co2 emissions for 40 years or
less. Colin Ward says a 40 year promise of reducing emissions
does not compare to a 300 year or several 1000 year impact of
carbon dioxide.
So if a lot of these are false promises, is the government
doing anything to address these issues with offsets consumers?
And
Adam Curry: I just love I just I just love the breathiness or the
two. John is there. Is there really anything that we can do
about these offsets? I don't know.
Unknown: If a lot of these are false promises is the government
doing anything to address these issues with offsets consumers
and companies are buying.
Late last month the Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced
new principles for high quality Janet
Adam Curry: Yellen. Janet Yellen announced something
John C Dvorak: she's a climatologist you didn't know
that consumers and
Unknown: companies are buying.
Late last month the Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced
new principles for high quality carbon offsets.
Adam Curry: Ah, there we go.
John C Dvorak: The low quality carbon offsets now we're gonna
have the high quality carbon we're
Adam Curry: number one foam finger number one for
Unknown: our offsets high quality that is offsets that
actually reduce or remove climate pollution, that climate
pollution even these new principles have gaps. For
example, the principles do not identify how long offsets have
to keep carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere no number. Also,
these are just principles, researchers worry without
enforcement, these voluntary principles might or might not be
followed. A Treasury spokesperson said though the
principles released last month are voluntary. We believe they
can help guide efforts to address the challenges Okay.
Okay,
Adam Curry: I finally figured it out. It's the exit strategy to
end all exit strategies ready? Okay,
John C Dvorak: I'm all ears. How much
Adam Curry: carbon because we can't say carbon dioxide. How
much carbon do you think is caused by every episode of the
no agenda show taking into account? The work that you and I
do the seven 800,000 people who listen, the computers, the
phones they're using? This has got to be quite a lot of carbon,
don't you think?
John C Dvorak: I have no idea. Let's put a number on it.
Theoretically, yes, I've had to have a clip coming up, right.
But let's just stick with what makes it even worse, whatever it
is, whatever the number is. So whatever
Adam Curry: it is, I think we should sell carbon offsets to
stop us from podcasting. So, think about it. We
John C Dvorak: have a counterintuitive,
Adam Curry: no, it's fantastic. It's a we need to sell the
carbon offsets so that we don't waste all of this energy and
carbon this beings being just sloshed into the air. And the
carbon that we are exhaling right now, will be around for
1000s of years. It's high quality carbon that we are
getting rid of me.
John C Dvorak: Okay. All right. What's your clip? Once you go?
Well, these clips are about AI and how it's affecting the
climate and ruining the day ruined everything. The
Unknown: rise of artificial intelligence is requiring faster
and bigger computations for even simple tasks. Then for say, a
Google search. It's adding to the demand for more internet
data centers, the places that house all those servers that
keep the internet running. But as Ali Rogen reports, there's a
price to pay for that
demand for data centers is growing rapidly. But these
facilities come at a big environmental cost, especially
for the communities that host them. Northern Virginia is the
largest data center hub in the world. The area is responsible
for processing nearly 70% of global digital traffic. It's a
rate that local officials say is unsustainable. Saatchi Kitajima
Mulkey is a science journalist and writer for the climate focus
news outlet gris Saatchi, thank you so much for joining us.
First of all, tell us a little bit more about what a data
center is. And why don't we?
Adam Curry: Why do we need so many data centers never
Unknown: we use the internet, upload photos to the cloud, send
emails, watch a video, all of that data and digital
information needs a home and it lives in these huge facilities
called data centers, which hold 10s of 1000s of servers each and
they process all that digital information for us. Something
like 70% of the world's digital information is processed by a
cluster of data centers in Virginia alone. And there are
over 5000 facilities in the US.
Well, what are the environmental impacts of having some of these
data centers in your backyard?
So to process all that information, they need two
things. The first is electricity, of course to
physically crunch and process all that gigabyte going on.
Adam Curry: Oh, all that gigabyte going on?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is our this is our super This is the
science and technology writer. We just need to talk like that
from now on. Hey, man, they're getting they're processing all
that gigabytes.
Adam Curry: I got a lot of gigabyte going on. How about
you, John?
John C Dvorak: I got gigabyte going on. To be honest about it.
I have terabyte going on?
Adam Curry: Oh, it's remember, it's not the size. He's got
terabyte All right. All right. This
John C Dvorak: is good. So we already know that we have
they're talking to an idiot. So we're gonna get good material
out of this person. I'm loving it already information,
Unknown: they need two things. The first is electricity, of
course to physically crunch and process all that gigabyte, go
Adam Curry: physically crunch, John is physically crunch.
There's actually
John C Dvorak: a crunch. You actually missed that until now.
Yeah. Physically physically crunching, grinders at these
data centers, big giant rocks that roll around pulled by oxen,
just
Adam Curry: to remind everybody
Unknown: elitist voices of America. This is NPR or PBS
information,
they need two things. The first is electricity, of course, to
physically crunch and process all that gigabyte going on. The
other is water, which are used in cooling systems to protect
these servers from physically overheating. And researchers
think they're in the top 10 Water consuming industries in
the US they use 2% of the electricity in the US, which is
a lot. And A source told me that data center campuses can use the
resources equivalent to a small city and as AI booms, they'll
use even more the average AI application uses six times the
amount of electricity so they run a lot hotter. And that
scales exponentially. They just need more water to cool down.
Whoa, whoa.
Adam Curry: Whoa, she said that scales exponentially. That's
kind of a contradiction that she's saying there. So it gets
really hot need a lot of water that scales exponentially.
John C Dvorak: I think she Just using words, is
Unknown: even more, the average AI application uses six times
the amount of electricity. So they run a lot hotter. And that
scales exponentially. They just need more water to cool down.
And how do these data centers in the United States and the world
of water
John C Dvorak: do pull down to cool down to cool down or to
cool down? Okay.
Adam Curry: But but you know,
John C Dvorak: I find it by the way, the one overlooked fat
facet to this, as I find interesting is that 70% Of all
the data centers are in, in and around randomly. Yeah,
Unknown: hmm. So you run a lot hotter, and that scales
exponentially. They just need more water to cool down.
And how do these data centers in the United States and around the
world affect global efforts to decarbonize?
It's tricky, because right now, we are building out green energy
solutions at a great scale. It's happening really fast, but it
might not be happening fast enough. Currently, a lot of the
grid is still running on fossil fuels, and even plans in
Virginia to shut down you know, coal firing plants may not go
through because these data centers need so much energy that
grid operators need to fire those coal plants backup or just
keep them running in order to meet all that demand. So and one
of the talking points of these data center reform coalition's
I've spoken to is that that's a step backwards from clean energy
goals and kind of almost a betrayal of some of the promises
certain states have made to you know, get off of carbon.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Get off a carbon. Yes, she
John C Dvorak: says cold coal firing, Isn't it cold coal him
sorry, coal coal fired, coal fired.
Adam Curry: She's obviously a nincompoop. Well, she's on her
way. Wow. Exit Strategy become tech journalists at PBS. Madam
is John we're crunching the gigabytes for you right here on
PBS.
John C Dvorak: Okay, with clipper we
Adam Curry: are number three. This is shorty need to set it up
this shorty? Yes, no, this
John C Dvorak: is shorty for a reason you'll hear it when you
when you hear it.
Unknown: And many of these data centers are located in densely
populated residential areas. What's it like to live near one?
Yeah, you
know they're built near schools and neighborhoods protected
nature parks in Virginia in particular. And one big impact
is that they're really loud they hum and they bring all this
noise pollution to the area.
Adam Curry: That's bull crap She's confusing it with with the
Bitcoin miners I don't know what she's talking about. Data
centers are completely quiet than ones that these goals no
John C Dvorak: noise pollution, Atom noise pollution from the
giant data centers because it's buzzing. That's
Adam Curry: total horse crap. That's total it's the crypto
mining guys who have no cooling they just have an open roof and
they point all fans up toward the roof yet those are noisy but
not this stuff. Bynum believe it wow okay, no,
John C Dvorak: they're not noise I've been I actually visited may
East ones which is one of the I built I built
Adam Curry: an exchange in Amsterdam
John C Dvorak: Don't make noise it all
Adam Curry: on the outside they don't know. They can get noisy
inside.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, because of all the fans but yeah, all the
internal fans are just blowing on the CPUs yeah sure. I have a
couple of computers that make a lot of racket I went to didn't
add noise pollution outside I was
Adam Curry: at Mae Mae East when they had that flooding Do you
remember that? I do remember that that was 90 That must have
been 95 or 96 It was always
John C Dvorak: take me east by some very cynical guy. He showed
me around and he says and then we as we leave this like the
exit from there as you drive out through this like a parking lot
underground parking lot basically. So you drive he says
look at see we'd look above us as we're driving I see those
things those are the main cables if you had a truck that's too
big to tear him apart and bring down the whole internet and
everything that was pointed out what a what a flaky operation it
was what
Adam Curry: so we should probably explain the the May is
m au A stands for metropolitan area exchange and we had that
was the big one on the east coast we had the Mae West of
course on the west coast we had the am six the Amsterdam we
still have these
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're done they're not as important as
they once were. No, no, but no, they're not all the traffic all
the internet traffic used to go through all these things because
you had to pay carriage to to get a good one. No, we had no in
peering feeds. We had period period period hammies was
peering happened, that was the end of it. Well, peering was
Adam Curry: great for a while, but then, you know, then they
all got to consolidate and all became like, what do we have now
AT and T and Comcast Comcast? Yeah. And there's maybe one of
the Oh, how about MCI? Those guys still around?
John C Dvorak: I don't think so. All right, onward. All
Unknown: that concrete also means a huge increase. Some
stormwater runoff, because that rain can no longer soak into the
ground. It all has to go somewhere what?
concrete.
And so the amount of electricity also could be more than the grid
may be able to handle. So when there's an outage, there's kind
of a question of who gets the power of residents or data
centers.
Were talking to you now via Skype. We're using a lot of data
to do it, though a
Adam Curry: lot of data on Skype.
John C Dvorak: Talking to you now on Skype, there's a lot of
data involved. What are you nuts? How
Adam Curry: much gigabyte? Are we crunching on Skype right now?
Okay, I hope there's a good comeback in this final dough.
John C Dvorak: This is ridiculous. This entire report,
our classic PBS reporters, they're clueless,
Unknown: as we increasingly rely on this type of cloud computing,
to do so many things. We use apps we use, we do virtual
meetings, that kind of thing. Is there any way that these data
centers can continue to expand? Can I just got to
Adam Curry: hear that, again, we use apps I just got I just have
to soak in the the nonsense. You know, meanwhile, we have the
twit network going out of business. And this is what we're
left with is sad.
Unknown: As we increasingly rely on this type of cloud computing,
to do so many things. We use apps we use, we do virtual
meetings, that kind of thing. Is there any way that these data
centers can continue to expand, continue to grow and support all
this usage? But do so in a more environmentally friendly way?
No, clear? No,
it is possible to build cooling systems that use less water, but
we don't really see those built out at scale yet. And you could
power them with green energy. But again, right now we have a
grid that's kind of stuck on fossil fuels, and we're slowly
making the transition to green energy, but maybe not fast
enough to meet all this demand. First, before we can really know
what we need to do next, we just need more transparency from the
industry, which scientists and activists both told me is pretty
secretive. Google is saying it's a leader in sustainable data
centers. And they only began releasing their water usage data
a couple of years ago after a lawsuit. And
to that transparency point, I want to play for you a soundbite
from an environmental activist in Northern Virginia, as we've
said, where so many of these data data centers are located.
One of the big things that concerns me is that some of
these data center companies are claiming to be holding federal
or Department of Defense servers, and therefore their
critical infrastructure and cannot be allowed to go down.
And so there's this this question of who gets the water
in a drought situation? And are they going to leverage that kind
of argument of national security? to potentially say
they get the water first?
Are there any safeguards that exist to make sure that these
companies are being honest about the types of companies that
they're supporting with their servers and and what the effect
on the environment is?
We're kind of trusting companies to be transparent and do the
right thing. There are a lot of companies like to tell
sustainability goals. But truthfully, we're trying to get
laws through in Virginia right now, a couple of bills were
introduced in Virginia and in other states, but they're not
getting a lot of traction until we have that research we need.
And so right now, Virginia is conducting a data center impact
study. And the results of that will come out later this year,
hopefully, I mean, we're just seeing a lot of action in
Virginia in particular, yeah,
Adam Curry: this there's something going on with
Virginia. And that's what the what the why they put these
idiots on this report, because really, the data centers, Utah.
You know, there's some pretty big ones in Texas. There's a lot
being built here. I don't understand this whole reports
focus on Virginia, there's something else happening with
data centers in Virginia.
John C Dvorak: I have to agree because it's this vicious way
that area in the reporting.
Adam Curry: Now I just realized I want to stay on this for a
moment because there
John C Dvorak: will be end of it. Yeah, that's that's your
five. Okay.
Adam Curry: There was an interview with President Trump.
And this was actually quite I couldn't even watch the whole
thing. It was the all in crew, which is Dallas capitalist
John C Dvorak: JKL well,
Adam Curry: so J cow. put on a suit and tie and like 1970s
Buggles glasses.
John C Dvorak: i By the way it can I make one quick comment
about that outfit? He was wearing fleece? Because you know
him I know we both know him run into him. What? Yes, what a Joe
he usually wears a turtleneck but that but here he's wearing
and I was trying to figure out why is he wearing this outfit?
Because it doesn't look like anything he's ever worn before
he showed up on the Jesse waters show brought to promote the
interview. To promote the interview and waters call them J
cow and he comes up J kioku. Kerrison stupid nicknames
because he's like J Lo get it.
Adam Curry: Makes it even funnier cocktail. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that's it. Exactly why he's using this this
moniker. And so he's wearing this suit and this pink tie and
it's like, why is he wearing this outfit? And I realized who
it is it said, That guy that's on Shark Tank. The Well Dressed
guys shows up a lot on different Fox shows. I can't remember his
name, Mr. Wonderful. That's the guy who's Mr. Wonderful. He's
Adam Curry: the guy who's so sharply dressed on there all
these
John C Dvorak: guys His name is so somebody that Oh, leering.
Oh, Larry. Larry. Oh, Larry. Yeah, he's
Adam Curry: Mr. Wonderful. Well, he's
John C Dvorak: always dressed to the 10s He's wearing a cufflinks
he's wearing an expensive suit. He's got that exact same look.
That's what Calacanis is copying. He's looked he sees
Wow, this guy's getting a lot of attention. Maybe if I dress like
because Calacanis is a copycat cancer what he's
Adam Curry: is we known him since the days of Silicon Alley
when he was writing a rag he was literally around right
John C Dvorak: to do the producer stuff that we did once
and one of his is doing he started pot he took big talk Leo
into using this week and what startups No no,
Adam Curry: he stole it. He stole it from Leo. Well, he's
John C Dvorak: I'm not I don't think so. Okay, well, you would
know Leo gave him permission. Oh, Leo, only because he thought
that Calacanis was gonna, you know, he didn't think he was
going to be a competitor. It just Yeah, sure. Go ahead and
use it. No, okay. He doesn't steal stuff. He, he's, he's a
copycat, but he's not. He's not a thief. And so he took that
little game permission. So yeah, okay. So he ran out with a whole
series of this this week. And you know, when it failed anyway,
he's now he's this thing here. It looks like it's semi
successful when
Adam Curry: I was. Well, he's got David Sacks on and Chum off,
whatever, you know, chum off. What's the guy's name?
John C Dvorak: He's got a good team. Yeah, no, those guys. Now
he's dressing up like, Larry.
Adam Curry: When I was living in LA, remember, Christina moved
out there for a little bit. And she lived in LA, you may not
remember. But she did. And you know, she was basically looking
for it was a weird period. And you know, that was going through
divorce was It was messy. It was a messy, messy time. The she was
out there, and she was living with a bunch of weirdos and I
was trying to keep my eye on her. And I was trying to get her
a gig and then I was on Calacanis his show, which, what
was it wasn't This Week in Startups. It was something maybe
it was I remember that he had, he had his kind of little
company there. And I took Christina and he said, Oh, yeah,
no, come back. And, and so she did an interview, she
interviewed for a job there. And she came back said, I'm never
going to work for that creep. Dad, that guy's weird. My
daughter wouldn't even work for him.
John C Dvorak: So there's other people that went through that,
you know,
Adam Curry: Molly wood for a while Molly was even
John C Dvorak: a good sale is he is an excellent sales guy. And
he knows how to do it. He says, Yeah, he's really good. Yeah.
And so he's done well for himself. And I, you know, enjoy.
He definitely talked like just as much you notice this when he
resigned,
Adam Curry: but his whole thing, what he did well, is he he kind
of got into that Y Combinator group and invested in some
things early. And that's why he got into Uber early. And then
you know, he invested in Tesla early, because through his
contacts at Sequoia I think we got a rule off the hill dropping
him to Oh, Rudolph, I heard from Rudolph Rudolph is the CEO now
he's the David Rudolph is the is the South African Cabal, the
other part, the part of Elon that actually does stuff behind
the scenes. And, and, you know, and so he's Elon is best friend.
I remember he was at the takeover of Twitter, and he was
oh, maybe I should be the CEO. Goodbye. I haven't forgotten
that. Remember, he was kind of vying to be be
John C Dvorak: CEO. Anyway, well, he's you know, he does he
is a good sales guy but he doesn't he's not perfect so I
can't pull everything up look but this idea of wearing this
suit and tie that he's got let's check I just shake shake him and
he's got a different kind of hair cut those glasses you
talked about he's he's posing as a poser.
Adam Curry: He kind of looks like a 70s studio 54 coke dealer
Don't you think in the way he looks now? Yeah, maybe
John C Dvorak: it might be an interesting anyway. It's just
and who knows? I don't know. What's he up to? We don't know.
Well, first let me just say but he did get he get on. He got on
waters and waters lapped it up like I
Adam Curry: want to say the world would be a lot less
colorful without Jason. I'm I mean, I'm happy he's in. I
sincerely mean that. We rag on him. But
John C Dvorak: it would be gorgeous. That does what we do.
It's would be a A lot less colorful without Jace anyway,
Adam Curry: so there's only so I'm watching this interview and
Jason is trying to be funny. I'm trying to do you know, tough
questions which Trump was not having at all. He was not
having. I listen to this on the plane, and I fell asleep. So
after like 2530 minutes, half an hour and a half. I couldn't even
listen to it. But I did listen to this one thing. And it was
kind of like, oh, because David Sachs is the dangerous guy here.
What is what is the deal with this? David Sachs? Where's he's
from? Because that's, that's why Trump is on this show. David
Sachs, what is his deal? Well, he's
John C Dvorak: a bundler for sure. Yeah,
Adam Curry: he's an entrepreneur, a bundler. There
you go. Bundler
John C Dvorak: is a bundle. He's the guy who knows how to put
together a party. They bring in millions. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Candidate. He's in Pallant. Also,
John C Dvorak: I guess IVC in some ways, but I think is his
skill is being and he's one of those guys. Yeah. He'll get
he'll become David Sachs, who will be in the Trump
administration. Yes. As the ambassador to France, or England
or something like that. And all these VCs want to be
ambassadors. Yeah. But
Adam Curry: maybe he'll get something, something close. But
we'll see. He'll do. Now. He might do policy. So So I guess
David Sachs, was part of the biggest CEO get together and
maybe was at his house. And they told Trump about this little
little two word thing and little thing, a little little thing
called AI. We
Unknown: have a phenomena coming up right now. And I was talking
about it the other day to David. And that's AI little thing,
simple, two little simple letters, but it's big. And I
realized the other day, more than any time when we were at
David's house, and talking to a lot of geniuses from Silicon
Valley and other places, they need electricity at levels that
nobody's ever experienced before to have to be successful to be a
leader in AI. The amount of electricity that is like double
what we have right now and even triple while we have right now.
They are they It's incredible how much they need to be the
leader. And we're gonna have to be able to do that. And a
windmill turning with its blade knocking out the birds and
everything else is not going to be able to make us competitive
you'll have what
Adam Curry: about what about nuclear? Mr. President? Yeah, so
let me just give you a statistic so many go on he actually he
knows he knows the problems and even said, you know, France,
those guys are smart. They did. They got modular, they can do
all the same thing. Not like we're idiots. Everything's
different every so he he was good. But he's being psyops in
this AI thing. And you and I had been talking. We don't talk much
outside the show, but after the show was, um, you know, post
producing, and we're compressing everything getting it all done.
We'll chat a little bit. And we've been talking about when,
what is it? What is the trigger that is going to take this
nonsense down this AI?
John C Dvorak: Right? And we did discuss this in the last post
mortem. Yes,
Adam Curry: post mortem. And I think I may have found one and
it comes a lot because you said if we could figure out what the
real downfall was of the dot, what pop the.com bubble, we may
be able to figure out what pops the what pops the AI bubble, and
I think I may have found it. And
John C Dvorak: when did you figure out what popped the duck?
Because I think back on it, and I'm thinking what the hell pop
the.com Well,
Adam Curry: allow me. I was in the Netherlands in 2000, end of
99 2000. And it was World online. World online was going
to be the biggest IPO run by a lady called Nina brink. And I
know Nina Brink Because Ron Blum and I tried to get our initial
financing from Nina brink. Because you know, we were run
all over the world. Yeah, we before we, before we had the
venture capital money, we're trying to figure out where can
we raise money from and of course, you know, I had my
contacts in Holland, and somehow we run into Nina brink. And
she's been involved. I mean, her. Her whole thing is, oh,
we'll do a big announcement with an LOI. We'll have an LOI. She's
a miss loi, which is a letter of intent, which is completely
meaningless. At the end of the day, she didn't actually want to
invest. She wanted to give us a subordinated loan. Right. Okay.
No. So it was a big run around and but she is very she has been
very successful in a whole bunch of other businesses. And now she
was going to set up this whole world online thing she had, and
she had bought France Telecom and all these different internet
providers, and was going to be the global online internet
provider. And everybody had money in the IPO. I had friends
and family. Oh, I mean on the friends and family was great.
She just she discloses one day before the IPO that she actually
sold all of her stock before the IPO. And the IPO tanked and
after that, as far as I know, everything in public markets
went just went to crap and the whole thing fell apart. I can't
say for sure that the world online failed IPO was really the
trigger but it I find it coincidental that she pops up in
the news. As I'm traveling back from the Netherlands. I'm at the
airport and the financial newspaper the financial doc
blood has this whole story about renovado Biosciences here in
fact, Hindenburg researchers after them, you know, Hindenburg
research. Oh, yeah. These are the short sellers. Here's their
headline renovado biosciences, a worthless AI shell game with a
murderous magician past. I mean, and this has Nina bring who's
now Nina storms, Dr. Nina storms no less than wood. So she was
somehow she bought this. She was involved in this Biosciences
Company, which was set up by this guy who had you know, he's
he's one of the most important scientists in the world. But it
turns out that he killed one of his forehead, one of his former
partners shot to death. And then the whole thing is a mess. But
what she was going to do was going to bring in this company
and put it together with this run renovado biosciences, and
they took it public. And she brought in this company called
Jenny cube, which is literally nothing. Jenni cube, GN ICU B E,
which is kind of interesting, because you know, whenever you
put cube in, it sounds so scientific. And, and this thing
is coming. It's publicly listed, this thing is coming apart at
the seams. And there's all kinds of investigations and and
because the sheep brought in the AI nonsense. I mean, there's, I
mean, really gobbly gook of flowery language, which really
is means nothing. Absolutely nothing. I think that this may,
even though it's not a direct trigger, I think that this is
it. I think whenever Nina Brink shows up, it's time to bail.
John C Dvorak: Well, then why should go short in video and see
what happens? Good luck.
Adam Curry: I don't know. I'm not so sure I want to do that.
But but at least things know that.
John C Dvorak: We have in our audience, kind of I would say
armchair analysts,
Adam Curry: yes, we do. Who knows
John C Dvorak: develop stuff. of many of these ideas are quite
good. They're just not. They're not polished. But we have at
least 10 people in our audience that can have theories, I bet if
we asked for them, that can provide us with theories as to
why the.com collapse took place. Now I remember a previous
collapse. And this is the more obscure and I can't remember the
name of the IPO that failed. And it became a collapse the entire
industry of council games during the Atari era. Console games.
Yeah, there was a big boom in games that refer these game
consoles not to you know, this is all pre Nintendo is when you
had the Atari and a bunch of these other you know, Pong was
was a player back in Yeah. And there was a bunch of these games
that we came up for the Atari mostly game councils, all blocky
was terrible. But there was the one Vamp and Colico vision. That
was that was an example. Yeah. And there was a bunch of these
companies. And then one of them there was these IPOs that were
starting to develop, and they were coming out with these
different these game companies and one game company failed. And
they brought the whole industry down. And it was the end of it.
In fact, there wasn't anything after that, except the Nintendo
was was left in the it was kind of came out of the ashes and
took over the place. And then Sony came in later. And then we
had other things say again, and things like that. It was a very
interesting phenomenon of Washington transition from one
to the other, but a collapse took place in the meantime. And
that collapse was triggered by a fail. A failed IPO that was
triggered by something that would again is one of these
things that the trigger mechanism may be elusive. But
when it happens, it's noticeable. And it goes fast.
Adam Curry: Yeah. slowly, very slowly and then fast all of a
sudden, I wonder what that was. I wonder what that was? Because
the Nintendo NES came at the was it Sega
John C Dvorak: will shake it No, Sega came up with NES and they
hung in there for the for most of the the second round of
games. And Sega just quit on its own. It just decided out of the
blue to stop doing it. After the Dreamcast, which is a killer
machine. But that whole market is is a study in itself. But to
study these other phenomenas, and the AI thing is there it
will happen because there's no way that this is going to
continue with their power requirements and some of the
things going on with the with, with the promises and and
delivering not much more than just kind of crappy art.
Adam Curry: There's not much going on. Yeah, isn't that nice
demos? Everybody
John C Dvorak: is not right. We don't see any Shakespearean
plays coming out of any of this stuff.
Adam Curry: Well, what what is definitely sure is that people
are very disappointed by the reality of the interaction with
the voice response versus the demo. Because I, because I know,
Sam Altman was also interviewed by Jay Cowell about a month ago
and right so you know, as I'm thumbing through away from this
Trump interview, I get the Altman interview, an hour of
nothing, the guy says nothing. Yeah, that's really interesting.
And, and J cow, and Charmouth. And whoever these guys are,
sacks, they were all saying, Well, you know, it has a lot of
promise, but it was the latency. They kept talking about the
latency. I didn't see any latency in that demo with Oh, I
see you're sitting in a cool room. Are you getting ready to
do a podcast or maybe a demo? There was no latency there. So
they sexed it up the whole demo is fake and phony. is fake and
phony.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, that's nothing new now. Well, we
haven't fed, you have at least some thoughts on this. And but
we're soliciting further thoughts from the audience of
producers? Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, particularly the gaming history. Someone out
there will know for sure. But this has this has got and when
this goes, Man is going to be spectacular. I think they need
to keep
John C Dvorak: it as spectacular as the.com collapse. To me, that
was the most spectacular thing I've ever seen. Well, that took
the whole market. Well, this will to this. Will that mean the
NVIDIA for is carrying the market? Yes,
Adam Curry: it's carrying everything.
John C Dvorak: But what we've gone from a chipmaker that
makes, you know, processors for gamers to the biggest
corporation in the world. Really?
Adam Curry: Yeah. Which needs eight times the power to power
their chips, but even work, it's just hard. No, it's like, no,
this is not going to happen. Anyways, speaking of fake and
phony, I'm going to get two more clips here from I'm gonna go
back for a second power and energy. So we have the unique
opportunity to show the future a unique opportunity, I say, to
show the future of solar and wind and how we all can live in
harmony without any carbon dioxide, I'm sorry, carbon, and
that is Ukraine. Ukraine could be a shining example. And the
Lensky is actually thinking about it. Ukraine,
Unknown: the energy grid has come under sustained attack from
Russian missiles. It's caused more blackouts. The country's
facilities already struggling after repeated targeting a
barrage of strikes have continued this afternoon. Three
people reported dead in our Keefe. Now President Volodymyr
Zelensky has said this week there needs to be a rush for
replacement solar energy for civil institutions across the
country, he said is a time of panic. Let's have a listen to
his words from overnight. The
government has been tasked with immediately presenting a program
to encourage the installation of solar generation and energy
storage systems and Ukraine's proposal program that is as
favorable as possible, David. All
Adam Curry: right. Let's do it. Let's prove it. Let's bring out
some solar make it all work power your cities. I'd love to
see it. We all know it's not going to work. quick little
update on the orange painting of Stonehenge and Taylor Swift jet.
So as I already said, it wasn't Taylor Swift jet. No, these
people just went in spray painted someone else's jets. And
the like this is this is very this is a very costly thing. If
you can't just fly with some paint on there. You know,
there's all kinds of bad things happen at high speeds. And so I
go looking like but what exactly because it came out of fire
extinguishers. It looked like that. Fire extinguishers. The
stuff they were Yeah, they were filled with paint. Well, no,
it's not paint.
Unknown: So Danielle, what do we know about the as protesters,
and is this orange stuff like reversible like is are these
rocks gonna be okay? They're gonna be okay. And they're gonna
wash away at least that's what we're told by the protesters.
I'm not gonna give you our viewers history lesson here. But
there's a reason why Stonehenge is so remarkable. It's a UNESCO
heritage site. It's one of the most recognizable landmarks here
in the UK, built 4500 years ago. It's in perfect alignment with
the sun. We don't know who built them. But we do know today who
tried to damage them a 21 year old student from Oxford
University, a 73 year old man who was quoted as saying that
the orange corn flour that was used to create this eye catching
spectacle will wash away with the rain, but not the climate
crisis if the leaders don't act.
Adam Curry: Okay, now I have
John C Dvorak: arrived. I've heard just corn starch and a
pigment,
Adam Curry: I got a serious question. I have a serious
question. If they haven't ruined anything, because it washes off.
Why are we putting this on the news? It's the same. They go on
hold they spray painted a painting? No, they put paint on
the glass. Why are we putting these idiots on the news if they
didn't do anything? There?
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm not going to argue about the point
that this should not be covered. But it's at Well, I think the
reason you put it on the news because you got some crazy
maniac with a fire extinguisher filled with his goo. And they're
spraying our side of an airplane and you have a video of it is
but it was probably saying you know this is kind of
interesting. Let's at least run it. Oh,
Adam Curry: yeah. No, it's because there's a point to be
made. It's all theater. It's not actually ruining the airplane.
It's actually ruining the priceless art. It's not ruining
Stonehenge. It's it's MK Ultra is we're being mind controlled
into thinking that these children apparently a 73 year
old are so incensed that they they feel they have to go and
destroy valuable objects they're not
John C Dvorak: well a couple of things. First of all, until I
see a washing machine spray just take a pose and spray off that
crap that's on the airplanes which is typically what should
happen the way they're describing it. I don't believe
it it's especially don't believe the thing with stone edge that
pigment if you ever buy just raw pigments and you can do that if
you're if you go to an art supply place a big one where
they sell literally just sell pigment they don't sell it's not
paid as pigment is powder and you can mix it with cornstarch
if you wanted to. And
Adam Curry: he said he says it's corn dust.
John C Dvorak: It's corn flour, corn flour or corn starch it
doesn't matter I we know what this is it's a bits of its
powder that you mix with the pigment then you wait no way you
can make it wet and make a slurry and you can spray the
slurry.
Adam Curry: Are you with extinction rebellion?
John C Dvorak: No, I'm just saying this this reporting about
how this stuff is wash right off is bull crap. I
Adam Curry: don't Well you have no which was your clip.
John C Dvorak: I want to see it washed off. That's what I'm just
show me.
Adam Curry: Okay, well, I'm just saying that you're saying that.
No one said pigment. No one said that. You're putting pigment in
there that stains everything.
John C Dvorak: Where's the orange come from is not some
magic from
Adam Curry: the Cheeto dust.
John C Dvorak: Which is pigment. It's a
Adam Curry: Cheeto dust. You can lick your fingers and it comes
right off.
John C Dvorak: Whistle last time you tried to get all that crap
off your hand on the plane
Adam Curry: that they serve Cheetos on the plane.
John C Dvorak: What plane serves Cheetos, you got united
Adam Curry: they got dudes and dresses. It's a great airline.
They got everything, dude. Alright, now we're talking about
food. I'm going to take this one right up your alley, the latest
in food cuisine. It's a code cuisine. The exclusive
Unknown: solutions to the climate crisis will take many
forms. One of which is algae. That's according to Chef Callum
Monroe. He comes down to the coast every other day to collect
seaweed here on the Scottish Isle of Skye.
Every week, maybe twice or three times a week actually become a
yeah, see this one here which is I would say up there with the
best at sea spaghetti as you can tell why it's called Sea
spaghetti because it just looks exactly like this. Again, it's
quite a subtle flavor. But you can use it just as human
spaghetti together
with climate activist Shona Cameron, the two are trying to
bring seaweed back into the kitchen. As a renewable
alternatives to fish and meat. The seaweed is the vegetable of
the sea and is available all year round. Now sharing these
ideas with schools condo with recipes for the children to
learn. Oh
Adam Curry: there you Go teach him how to how to eat seaweed.
It's the vegetable of the sea.
John C Dvorak: That we're not sure what to say this we're
going too far with thanks. It says it stinks. It's a nice
wrapper for sushi.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's about it. Stop. Stop there. He's
holding up the stringy seaweed. Oh, it's just like spaghetti. In
fact.
John C Dvorak: That's not well. That would be the world's worst
spaghetti but okay. Yes.
Adam Curry: I'm in agreement with you. Man Oh, man. Oh, man,
we
John C Dvorak: before we drift too far astray. Because you did
mention Trump. I want to bring it back to that. Trump. I
watched Trump's Philadelphia speech ah,
Adam Curry: I'm glad you did. Okay,
John C Dvorak: I put it aside I wanted to see if he had new
material or
Adam Curry: is up to it was was the kind of losing a little bit
because now this
John C Dvorak: bowl crab in fact, he brings that up
Adam Curry: I I'm just telling you, you I played this bull
crap. He's prompter went out and he wasn't good. And you heard
you agree.
John C Dvorak: I just see I disagree. He didn't use much of
a prompter in this speech. But he does ramble. And then he
mocks himself for rambling he discusses it needs reflect you
Adam Curry: thought the shark and the and the electrocution
was a good bit.
John C Dvorak: I didn't think it was a good bit. It was a one of
his bits though. And I didn't think it was horrible, like you
said, but I do have two examples of new bits. Okay, one of them
which is worse than the shark. And one that I think he's going
to use in going forward. He has a bunch of new material that
he's trying out a he's does an hour and a half. He did two, two
speeches on. He went did one in Washington DC I guess which I
didn't see. And then he went to Philadelphia and did a big one.
And it was interesting to see how he keep his audience. I
always check the background because he always has a bunch of
people back there behind him and he always has a couple of babes
that have the they have a very distinctive Trump babe look,
they got kind of their their kind of angular face is very
pretty photogenic looking anyway, or telegenic and always
holding up signs and undecided back. He's got the signs are all
two sided now. So he's got two messages, usually the Trump 24
ones and the other one was
Adam Curry: where they calot where they calla pitches.
John C Dvorak: The girls don't show their asses. They're just a
bunch of pretty faces in the audience. All right, thank you.
So the he's got the signs and the science a Trump something on
one side and the other side says, Too Big to rig is his
latest news. Okay, so all the signs you flip a Ross is too big
to rig. And but slowly he the background evolves. So when he
finished the speech and started talking about his audience
behind him, it was all black. It was there wasn't a white face in
the crowd. It was all got it. I mean, you see him switching them
out. Excellent. And you can see a couple of them were very, you
know, these very pretty women there were everyone was swapped
out very slowly, like I think one at a time. Oh, and then
there's always a complete black audience behind him at the very
end so he could reflect on this.
Adam Curry: We're literally doing this as he was speaking.
They're rotating the audience. Yes. Wow, that's slick.
John C Dvorak: And he had an hour and a half to do it. So
that was it was so slow that you didn't unless you watch the
beginning, and then cut to the end, you wouldn't have noticed
that
Adam Curry: it was like a rotating stage. But it just
slowly wrote on a rotating
John C Dvorak: stage. So anyway, so he has, I have two examples
of his new material. All right. And they're short, but this is
under Trump, and this will be the one we're going to play here
is Trump, Pennsylvania, New Material One, but they
Unknown: get in there all these horrible compromising posts. And
then they say he wasn't it really wasn't that way it was.
So then everybody sends in, they all have cameras. See every one
of you have a camera. If I blow it up here, though, they
actually they take a perfect, brilliant, beautiful statement
that I make. I go for two hours without teleprompters. And if I
say one word slightly out, they say he's cognitively impaired.
Whereas Biden can run into walls. He can fall off the
stage. He can fall up the stairs. He pulls up. He can turn
around, listen to this. From 20,000 feet of paratroopers
landing right in front of him. Everybody, oh, the foreign
leaders they're watching. And he turns around to look at a tree.
And then they say it was fake. He was fine. And then the press
goes along with it. They go along with it. They say isn't a
terrible way, the way they cover him now. Now he's terrible. The
worst president in history. Bye Far, and we have to get about,
or this country is not going to survive. Another year. No.
Adam Curry: All right. All right. That's good. That's
funny.
John C Dvorak: So that was your material. So he did. So later he
does this bit, which is the second clip only have two. And
this was a bomb. And it was, and I left the pauses in at the end.
So he let the whole thing play. And he, he gets nothing from
this material he's going to do. And then so he that's a slide
for a while, and then he changes the subject so radically, and I
only have the beginning of the switchover at the very end. And
I was just saying, you shake your head, but this will you'll
never hear this bit again. But every
Unknown: every day, you're reading about this. But how
embarrassing is it for me to say, we will build a wall or we
will build a border. But how embarrassing it is to say we
will keep men and of women's sports who who would want men to
play women's sports. And yet for them for all these people,
including the fake news media, for whatever reason. It's like a
big deal. Who would want it? Did you ever look at the
weightlifting records? Records that stood for 18 years? And a
guy comes up? Have you lifted before? No, I haven't. Well,
they say a guy a person who transitioned. Have you lifted
before? No, I haven't really? A couple of days. Just over the
thing, being being Bing Bing are we crazy? Are the swimming with
a obliterate records obliterate the women get Winburn as the
boys go by? I'm suffering tremendous windburn what
happened to doctor says, Oh, well, I was swimming. I'm an
Olympic swimmer. But a person transitioned. And he went by me
so fast that the wind burned the hell out of me, doctor. No, it's
so it's so crazy. And it's so horrible for women. It's so
embarrassing for women. I will fully uphold our Second
Amendment.
Adam Curry: Switch. Well, at least he knows when to get out
of it.
John C Dvorak: But yes, he does. He bailed. This is that Winburn
thing. You'll never hear it again. I'm sure of it because
that was a just bombed dog.
Adam Curry: It's this is because of turning point USA. You know,
Charlie Kirk is touring with the women now. And he's got Megyn
Kelly and Candace Owens and Riley Gaines. And that's why
he's trying to shoehorn this in but his punch line is right. He
should be and there's a dude in a dress. I mean, he used to do
something like that. That's funny. Now like he's
John C Dvorak: real Yeah, it wasn't it was just funnier than
what he did that bit didn't work. I make them weightlifting
thing almost got there but they did that Winburn thing was no
good loser in that he's not gonna you'll never hear it again
going back and then it switched a second American audience back
Adam Curry: going back to the first clip. The MSNBC is real is
doing this now. He's right there trying to make him look like his
losing his mind. So now we have the cheap fakes. Biden's great
sharp as a tack sharp as a tack sharp as a tack sharp but Trump
Oh, no. So I have three clips. I'll pretty short do actually
the second to a very short. This is the first one British check
of course. And and here's how MSNBC is showing that Trump is
losing his mind. There is
Unknown: new audio of Donald Trump admitting that he lost the
2020 election and then quickly reverting back to the original
lie. It comes from research for the new book, apprentice in
Wonderland by Ramin Syd Tudor. He spoke to the former president
six times and recorded the conversations. Trump's admission
that he lost came during a conversation about his
relationship with Geraldo Rivera,
what was for all the work?
He was good. He did a good job. He was smart, cunning, he did a
good job.
And are you guys too close? Or you
know, I don't think so. He is. After I lost the election, I won
the election. But when they said he called me up three or four
times after I
lost the election. I won the election. And another
conversation with between Trump and Institute. The former
president claims that Joan Rivers voted for him in 2016.
She was a Republican. I thought she might have been a
Republican. I know one thing she voted for me, according to what
she
said one small hitch with all of that general has actually died
two years before that election. He's losing
Adam Curry: his mind. I tell you, losing his mind. Now listen
to Morning Joe, because they're really doing this now.
Unknown: So like person downloads in May. He wasn't
doing a lot of interviews and then we sat down again towards
the end of the summer. And when I sat down, I, you know, there
was a very blank expression on his face. So I asked you
remember when we spoke recently? And he said, No, I have no
memory of that. And he couldn't recall he said it was a long
time ago. And then we had to start from scratch. So the
interview started from square one where he was started telling
me the same exact stories that we that we heard in our first
interview, so he didn't remember
Adam Curry: some numb nut from a morning, Joe. And so he's losing
his mind. He's losing his mind.
Unknown: But he also seemed to think that he still had some
foreign policy powers. And there's one day where he told me
he needed to go upstairs to deal with Afghanistan, even though he
clearly didn't. He
told you that he while you were interviewing him at Trump Tower,
he told you he needed to go upstairs to deal with
Afghanistan with the
quote, the Afghanistan is how we refer to it.
Adam Curry: Oh, he's losing his mind.
Unknown: losing his mind, I tell you,
John C Dvorak: yes. I have noticed this this phenomenon,
too. And it's always on, it's on CNN and MSNBC only. And they are
looking at the one that really got everybody's attention was
when he called Ronnie Jackson, Ronnie Johnson, at one of his
speeches. So everybody jumped on this, including Jon Stewart, on
his on his Monday night show. Yeah. And it was Bah, he can't
even remember the name of his own doctor. And, and they use it
and they've been Trump referred to that particular moment in his
Pennsylvania's speech. And but yes, they're trying to make him
seem like Biden. Now, almost the same age, you know,
Adam Curry: since you bring up Jon Stewart, so he does the
Daily Show on Fridays, I think is it one day Mondays, Mondays?
One day a week, but he also has the Daily Show podcast, and of
course, this is up my alley, because you know, pod father
everything. Boy, pay attention, that stuff. And the so you think
the Daily Show podcast, I think it was originally called the
Johnson, I'm not quite sure that the name has changed. Sometimes
he drops the podcast from it. But you'd be expecting to hear a
funny, you know, like a, like an irreverent type show. No, it's
John C Dvorak: what you'd expect a podcast to be extreme.
Adam Curry: It's a bit boring. And he has Blong boring
conference. It's kind of like that Apple show, which was just
boring. So that Apple show is the worst. So so he got this
boring show. And it's interesting, because he did did
just have a minute and a half of the boring show, where he talked
to Kathleen Hicks. Who is I don't what is she? What is her?
She's high up in the paint and a Department of Defense. Isn't she
the?
John C Dvorak: She was one of Trump's old assistants now.
Adam Curry: That was the Qt No, that's a different one. That was
the press secretary? No. Kathleen Hicks is the Deputy
Secretary of Defense. And he gets into it, whether about the
audits of of the Department of Defense, or as we would say,
audit the Pentagon, it would be a good thing. And I thought what
came out of it was kind of interesting. I had an
opportunity
Unknown: to speak with the Deputy Secretary of Defense cap,
Adam Curry: you can already hear the show is boring. It's like,
John C Dvorak: yeah, it's already it's already boring
wants to be on PBS or something or NPR. He
Adam Curry: needs to he needs to get closer to the mic. I had an
opportunity to speak to a Catholic and activity Secretary
of the Department of Defense.
Unknown: And I just asked about the failing of the audits. And I
want you to I want you to listen, I think to what I felt
like was a remarkably defensive for no reason, attitude about
even the prospect of being questioned on this. But don't
you think that that does speak to the larger point that we're
trying to get at which is good journalism, uncovers corruption.
And I mean, good journalism doesn't cover corruption, but
I'm not sure these two things are linked and honest. Not they
are. Okay. So you need to explain to me, do you understand
what an audit does? And the degree to which it is linked to
the question that you're asking?
I believe so. Okay, go ahead.
Give me your explanation. No, I
don't mind learning. So what I would suggest is that the audit
that they have in the military doesn't really look at whether
or not there's efficacy, it just whether they got delivered the
thing that they ordered, and
that is any audit, that is any audit, that is true.
Generally, those audits aren't $400 billion for Raytheon and
$1.7 trillion, for a plane that doesn't seem to be doing like
there is a lot of waste fraud. On an abuse within a system
audit, waste, fraud and abuse are not the same thing. So let's
decompose these leads educate me on what so an audit is exactly
what you just described, which is,
Adam Curry: why did you say let's decompose this?
Unknown: That's playback or just for a plane that doesn't seem to
be doing like there is a lot of waste, fraud and abuse within a
system audit,
waste, fraud and abuse are not the same thing. So let's
decompose these leads
educate me on decompose.
Adam Curry: Yes. She
John C Dvorak: said that she said decompose.
Unknown: waste, fraud and abuse are not the same thing. So let's
decompose these leads educate me on what so an audit is exactly
what you just described, which is do I know what was delivered
to which place? Right the ability to pass an audit or in
the fact that the DOD has not passed not and is not suggestive
of waste, fraud and abuse?
The conversation goes on to the point where she says to me, you
seem awfully concerned about the money,
Adam Curry: so I stopped it there. But that was kind of I
thought that was interesting that an audit is not about the
waist, no, it's about we spent $100,000 on a toilet washer. And
did we get it or not? Not if it's not if it's a wasteful
expenditure? So that was the only interesting thing of that
entire boring show. But it leads well,
John C Dvorak: yes, well, I will say this, that she got defensive
because of the nature of the way he orchestrated the question by
assuming immediately that there was waste, fraud and abuse, and
that's the reason for no audit. So I believe that she reacted
properly to an accusation and unfounded accusation. Just
Adam Curry: a suspicion, a hunch, merely a hunch we have
there may be some waste, fraud and abuse going
John C Dvorak: on. Yeah, and you can be sure there is. So this
brings me
Adam Curry: to the big the big announcement. It's, as we say,
in the lowlands, the coho is daughter Khattak the bullet has
been shot through the church. I have no idea why they say that.
John C Dvorak: The bullet has been shot through the church.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: the girl who was daughter Catholic. I have no
idea why this Dutch say there must be is there any historical
reference to something being shot in a church? Well,
John C Dvorak: that was say the first of all the Dutch were one
of the biggest proponents of Lutheranism, the looser and NISM
sorry, loose, they're all Lutherans. They're the churches
are and that was it because it was early and the Catholics of
course, were, were banned pretty much. There's a couple of secret
Catholic churches around and it's possible that some booked
Catholic shot a shot at the preacher or something in in a
Lutheran church. That's my only kind of a long shot guess I
Adam Curry: just looked it up and I can't find anything right
off the bat but I will have to look that one up. So anyway, the
bullet has been in the bullet is through the church. And we have
a new incoming head honcho of NATO just came
Unknown: through in Brussels this week. A new leader is
poised to take over as NATO Secretary General is the former
Dutch Prime Minister Mark Ruta, who secured the backing of each
member state the only other credible competitor was
Romania's President Klaus Yohannes. He's backed out of
Teflon mark is his nickname
Adam Curry: Hold on a second. I have been following Margarita
for a while. I've never heard anyone refer to him as Teflon
mark. I mean, maybe Crisco mark, but Teflon Mark No. Klaus
Unknown: Yohannes is backed out of Teflon that Mark is his
nickname in The Hague. One biographer said the 57 year old
cycling format and fanatic has a trademark is called Neverland,
which LK
Adam Curry: Miran, also something I've never heard. And
I think he is referring to may Viren, which he'll translate as
he's bouncing stretching along. No, I would say it's more like
sucking up being a slime ball. Being a fair weather friend
doing whatever is popular. That's what the translation of
Maven is, or as he says, Maven. So already we've got this this,
that we're building up sad
John C Dvorak: reporting, as usual, bad reporting, but
Adam Curry: they they also call them the Trump whisperer. Oh,
yes, he'll be able to get Trump this guy who was in HR at
Unilever somehow became prime minister for oh my god, what was
he 12 years a long time forever long time.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's the whole show
Adam Curry: and he's worse.
Unknown: On biographer said the 57 year old cycling format and
fanatic has a trademark is called Neverland, which means
belts and cycling
Adam Curry: fanatic he rides a grandma Bike to Work he's not On
a 10 speed with with the lycra has
Unknown: a trademark is called me Vinod, which was bouncing,
stretching along, working with whoever he needs to work with to
govern. To rule with. This was my router talking to the press
in the past 24 hours. It
is, of course an incredibly interesting position. It starts
in three months. There is a fantastic Secretary General at
the moment. But let me not give the impression that I am going
to do something different from Jens Stoltenberg.
We also know about my router. He likes his routine. According to
his biographer, he's always in the same cafe on a Saturday in
the Netherlands something that I think we'll quickly change with
security personnel on advice and also that he loves you too. And
he loves you too.
Adam Curry: That's what he loves you to the band you to
John C Dvorak: you to the band. Yes,
Adam Curry: he loves you to the band. Yes.
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's, that's insightful. So
Adam Curry: this is like the Tiger Beat. biog. What
John C Dvorak: is the point of taking some guy like that and,
and making the head making him the head of NATO because
Adam Curry: he'll do whatever they tell him to who's they? Oh,
the military industrial complex, of course. Raytheon, Boeing,
whoever. Of course. He'll just do whatever. Okay,
John C Dvorak: so he's just bullshit.
Adam Curry: He's always been bullcrap. Always. He's been he.
He locked down the whole population during COVID No, he's
not. He is not seen as any kind of strong personality. He's
wimpy slimpar wristed weird. I mean, he rides his bike to work.
Okay, how Dutch have you? And he's a made Maven. Maven. Which
boy bounces along No. He'll do whatever is popular whatever
whatever he's being told to do. So this just take it from me.
This guy is not a strong leader in NATO
John C Dvorak: interests Interesting. Yeah, well your
analysis is probably is better than anything you're gonna hear
elsewhere. So there you have
Adam Curry: it. The troll room has some other words for him.
Yes, you're correct that too. And with that, I'd like to thank
you for your courage saying the morning to you the man who put
the sea in the Cheeto dust say hello to my friend on the other
end the one and only Mr. Jobs
John C Dvorak: in the morning, you Mr. Adam curry in the
morning all the cheese does blitz on the ground feed near
subs in the one Diems and nights out there in the morning
Adam Curry: to the trolls and the troll room. Let me count we
did better than Father's Day because we had a low low troll
count 1618 On the last the last Sunday we have 1863 So we're
back up a little bit didn't do much for the donations just the
sheer number of donations the actual the number the the amount
of donation just low. I mean, people are it's summer I guess
we've hit the summer people are too hot, too hot, they're
melting. They can't do anything else. You throw out a double A
double sad puppy to no avail. And what are you going to do
next? You just gonna just gonna kill a seal a baby seal.
John C Dvorak: You're gonna kill a seal the little baby seal just
Adam Curry: club it to death as horrible. And I need to
apologize. Because somehow completely forgot to thank the
artists for episode 1669 Because you know as a value for value
podcast. There's many ways that people can help us and of course
we appreciate our our artists in to an incredible degree because
they're always they're creating stuff on the fly. And it was
time to kneel of all people for me to forget Taunton Neil, who
did the Father's Day art, which was a nice little piece, it was
a can. And it was the no Adyen dad beer. It was a little little
small, but we kind of went with it for this for the best dad in
the universe. Curry Dvorak and then really small letters. If
you blew it up, it says, What's that in your mouth? I think that
kind of clinched it for us. Sick as we are. Like, yeah, that's a
good joke.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was cute. Yeah.
Adam Curry: For the last episode 1670 Yeah, we brought in. I
mean, I'm, I'm not always you were actually on the Father's
Day episode. You were kind of vying for this cheesecake lady,
which I protested. I'm like, Yeah, you
John C Dvorak: hate women. No, I
Adam Curry: don't. Like why does Father's Day have to mean that
cheese cake lady. That's I mean, some fathers are not likes.
That's what you like. That's not what
John C Dvorak: I just like to piece I thought it was good and
you hate comic strip blogger.
Adam Curry: Well, no I don't. I've been friends with him
longer than I've been friends with you same type of
friendship. Know for 16 seven he titled The Maloney Francisco
Scaramanga nailed it with the and this was a cheesecake but it
had cheap fakes on her t shirt. It had double entendre. It had a
lot going for it and and it was just perfect. Perfect. Wouldn't
you say?
John C Dvorak: I liked it. Yeah. We had that. There was another
one that we were arguing about. The Father's Day one is from the
previous show, or when I guess it was that show. Cheap
Adam Curry: fakes. Oh, the Darren O'Neill is that that we
were looking at Darren O'Neal's. Cheap fakes 33 cents, which had
to Zareen zerene behind the lemonade stand. Oh, yes.
John C Dvorak: I liked this piece because I do is a
throwback to as a peanuts. Reference, of course with the
free advice booth through the Lucy was back. Would you be back
there with Charlie Brown? Yeah. I liked it. The scar manga
pieces it probably better in many ways. But the Darren
O'Neill piece was good and you criticize it because you said
Darren O'Neal's always got this does throw away stuff
Adam Curry: I said Darren no deal. Oh no, I didn't criticize
it. I said the cheap fakes was better. You didn't want to
choose it because you hate scare manga. That's what was going on.
You like that guy? He's an aihole. I remember No,
John C Dvorak: I never said that. I would say Oh, but you
did remind me that scared of manga did turn on the show you
in particular he's a turncoat. He turned on the show so they
were a bunch of jerks. Repair reason and and that that got me
to quit the entire that dead social network. They said
Adam Curry: the website just call it the website.
John C Dvorak: And that was the end of that. So there was some
there was some thought there man, you know, Darren O'Neal
pick because
Adam Curry: Dan O'Neill listening want to be picked? He
just wants us to talk about him. Yes, I
John C Dvorak: think you're right. I think he's a what is it
called when your attention? Attention whore?
Adam Curry: There you go. That's it. Well, I'll disc jockeys are,
I guess to a degree,
John C Dvorak: I think you're right.
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Unknown: formula is this we go out we get people in the mouth
Adam Curry: discovered I can find this job while applying but
as that's you
John C Dvorak: know, so did you see Andrew Cuomo on Bill Maher?
No,
Adam Curry: no, I did not.
John C Dvorak: I sitting here I dodged the bullet. Clearly you
dodged the bullet. So he's sitting there next to kissing
girl. I don't know why they go the cry baby The Cry Baby Cry
Baby. And and they do something they were bumo. Obviously he's
decided to throw the Democratic Party under the bus. And I think
is worth playing. It says oh, it's got nothing to do with any
more clips. But this was to me a it's been it was posted quite a
bit. I just took the regular posting of it and play it here.
The
Adam Curry: trial in New York. The one he got convicted for was
the greatest fundraising bonanza. Yes, he is. Now he was
blagging behind Biden. And now he's pulled quite a bit ahead.
That trial was the greatest reason people to send their
checks for 510 25, whatever, dollars to Donald Trump. So I
was always winning on the one in New York, the hush money trial,
I don't think they should have brought that one. It was just
always gonna look like a sex case. And people were always
just going to look at it that way. So
Unknown: in that case, the Attorney General's case in New
York, frankly, should have never been brought. And if his name
was not Donald Trump, and if he wasn't running for president,
from the former Ag in New York, I'm telling you that case would
have never been brought. And that's what is offensive to
people. And it should be because if there's anything left it's
belief in the justice system.
Adam Curry: Why is he doing that?
John C Dvorak: I wonder myself. I saw it was like he threw the
whole party under the bus. I think it's because he never got
the support. He expected to stay as governor. And he's worked.
He's worked. And now he's a critic. So either that as part
of our part of the giant scheme to get make sure Trump gets in
well, I'm thinking
Adam Curry: that but if you look at our the official lawyer of
the show, Rob, he always sends me an updated schedule of all of
the lawsuits that Trump is involved in. How many can you
name?
John C Dvorak: I can only name three or four. Yeah, there's
Adam Curry: like nine. Yeah. So we have the hush money case in
New York. Right. Where that's, I guess we're still waiting
sentencing. We have the civil fraud. The New York Trump and
others falsely inflated property values to obtain loans. We have
the Dominion. Case Dominion claims it was defamed when
Trump's campaign allegedly made false accusations that a
Dominion executive help rig the 2020 election that's in
Colorado, Georgia state criminal trial Trump and 13 others
allegedly meddled in Georgia's 2020 presidential election.
That's the funny Willis case. January 6. Immunity this is in
the DC district. Of course, the DC Circuit perhaps the SCOTUS
federal criminal, Trump allegedly incited an
insurrection on January 6, which allegedly had the effect of
obstructing official government proceedings and defrauded the
United States and other things. That's Jack Smith, then we have
what I think is interesting. This is not necessarily
involving Trump, but this is also in DC. There's a separate
January 6 Defendant, Joseph Fisher, who was charged with
assault and he's arguing that DOJ can't use Sarbanes Oxley to
prosecute him, which is phenomenal that somehow they're
they're trying to convict him of violating Sarbanes Oxley, which
I'm not quite sure how that works. South. Then we have the
Southern District, Florida, the classified documents mishandling
Michigan, Michigan, he filed charges against 15 Republican
electors for allegedly trying to overturn the 2020 election.
Trump is not amongst the 15. But of course it has to do with him,
Arizona. That's the 18 Republicans Giuliani Mark
Meadows. We have the jean Carroll defamation cases, two of
them. I mean, this is it's, it's amazing.
John C Dvorak: What they've done all after he said he's gonna run
for president. Yes. That's what that's what makes everyone came
after he made the you know, yeah, some within three days.
That's
Adam Curry: what makes it so cool.
John C Dvorak: Yes, well, the only thing I think they
accomplish what they wanted, I don't think these cases are
gonna go anywhere now, because the idea was to get him
convicted of something. And it's been discussed and discussed,
and they say that people on the inside that are at the, at the
hideout where Biden's being prepped and jacked
Adam Curry: up, it's called Camp Camp David, Camp
John C Dvorak: David, you but it's in the basement is so he
feels comfortable. And so the idea is he's going to throw out
the term convicted felon, which is all they really wanted to get
out of this all these cases, somebody because the rest of
these have been put off now that these cases are not going to
come to fruition. But they got what they wanted, which is
convicted felon before the sentencing. And before all this,
anything that can reverse the decision can go into play
because this is next Thursday, you're going to have the debate,
and Biden is going to drop the convicted felon bomb at the
debate,
Adam Curry: Trump will be ready for that.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, interesting to see what what
what ready means that regard? I don't know. They'll be ready.
But what you're gonna say
Adam Curry: I predict huge numbers on that CNN broadcast.
And that is going to break all records. And it's it's kind of
interesting, because it's in a way it's a throwback to the 60s.
I think the way they're running it is very similar to the
Kennedy Nixon debate, you know, just a studio no audience to
answer question, then you answer the question very, quote
unquote, civilized.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Right. So, so I was looking into Jake
Tapper's background spook when you because he's going to be one
of the two hosts him and Dana Bash. Dana
Adam Curry: Bash was literally married to a spook.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yes, exactly. So if you if you read,
I think it's an even in his Wikipedia. Jake Tapper takes
credit. Do you know the first CNN debate with Hillary and
Trump and Trump back in 2016 2015 2016? Era? There was
one of the debates was at CNN. Yeah. And because whoever was
really interested in these in this debate
Adam Curry: where they gave Hillary the the questions, Donna
Brazil yet
John C Dvorak: right. The dawn of Brazil gave her the credit,
but the point is, is that it got the highest rating CNN ever got.
Yeah. And they credited because of the presence of Jake Tapper.
Really? Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, I if I I recall correctly one of our
producers was in catering and catered the assistant CIA CIA
directors birthday if something like It was either that or FBI
and Jake Tapper was there just working the room. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, of course. That's sources say you know, sources. So
John C Dvorak: this will be a huge blockbuster even though ABC
is gonna also carry it. But it'll be big numbers for CNN,
even though it's going to be watered down because ABC is also
going to do a simulcast. I don't know how they got that to
happen. But you know, they happened and then you'll be
stuck because a chopper Yeah, everyone wants to see him.
Adam Curry: Wow. tappers, the man. He's the man of the hour.
He's the man about town. There's two incidents with Southwest
that I just need to handle for a second here.
Unknown: The FAA is investigating another concerning
incident on a Southwest Airlines flight after a plane appear to
come dangerously close to homes near Oklahoma City. For some
reason, they blew through and assigned altitude and continued
and get very close to the ground.
The Boeing 737 Which took off from Las Vegas Tuesday night was
descending into Oklahoma City's airport just after midnight,
when it dropped as low as 525 feet over the city of Yukon
passing just over a high school a low altitude alarm alerted air
traffic control which contacted the cockpit
air traffic controller in the tower saved the day by telling
them check your altitude.
Adam Curry: This is what I find so interest this couple of
things in this report and was very similar everywhere. So the
the flight goes to low clearly because they're still on their
approach. And there they are low. And the tower says hey, we
got a low altitude warning you guys okay? He didn't say check
your altimeter? No, he didn't say they just you guys. Okay,
everything all right, to which they replied, Yeah, we're good.
And then they they increase their altitude.
Unknown: The air traffic controller in the tower, save
the day by telling them check your altitude, the plane
landed safely. But local residents flooded social media
saying they thought the plane was going to hit their homes. It
was night it was late. Perhaps the crew was tired. They were
descending over the prairie. So there was no lights or no visual
reference. It was essentially descending over a black hole.
But this
Adam Curry: I don't know who this Jumoke is who's reporting
on this. But you're looking at your altimeter you're looking at
at the height of your aircraft, you're not looking out into the
black hole. Where are we? I could use anything, Bob, I don't
know. You see. I mean, the only thing I can imagine happened
here is they didn't set their their pressure altitude known as
the Q and H which gives you the correct altitude reading based
upon the barometric pressure. Maybe that happened. Or maybe
they're just really inexperienced. Either way this
should not have happened. But at the EI baby, that's possible.
And, and here's this kind of goes into the neck of the next
story, which is the part of this report for you know, whenever I
fly, when I fly the Cirrus from the flight school I if I go to
Dallas with Tina, who is not doesn't really love flying in
this little plane. But I always take the instructor because I'm
going to be 60 in September. I'm not I'm not fast, I don't fly
enough that I can especially Dallas area where there's four
airports is very busy. And if you're on the radio you go then
the next thing the air traffic control does, Okay, you go fly
out 20 minutes that way, we'll call you back later when you
think you're ready to come in. So, but these are 25 to 28 year
olds, and I fly what maybe twice a year, maybe three times a year
to go somewhere. It's always a new instructor because they are
getting they're getting zapped up right away straight into the
airlines. A lot of them female and they're low hours they've
got him 700 to maybe 1000 hours so they get another 500 Then you
can fly tech according to law you can fly on you know on a jet
on a big one of the passenger jet but they really don't have
just all the experience and whatever happened with the
pilots you know I think a lot of them died laden retired lot of
got out of the business does not necessarily I don't know about
Dei, but there's not a lot of experiential airmen and air
women who are in the business now and this is what we're
seeing. They were
Unknown: given a clearance for a visual approach. So they were
looking out at the lights of Oklahoma City looking for the
airport, and for some reason they missed that assigned
altitude perhaps was distraction in the cockpit
earlier this week. It was revealed to southwest Lean from
Hawaii came within just 400 feet of slamming into the ocean back
in April, a memo saying a newer first officer accidentally
pushed forward the control column.
Adam Curry: This is unbelievable to me, because they were
executing a go around, it was horrible weather, there was a
lot of torrential rain, a lot of airplanes, we're doing go round,
which is hey, I don't feel good. I don't think we should land.
Let's just Let's go around. We'll try it again. And so what
you do then is you view push the throttle forward, you pull back
on the control column, eventually you want to put the
put the flaps back in the right position. why someone would push
forward on the column that person should not be in the
cockpit. I don't know what happened there. All I know is
that the real good pilots who are from Navy and Air Force
they're not going to airlines that have Boeing anymore.
They're all going to Airbus outfits, particularly FedEx and
anything else that that doesn't have passengers and has Airbus
they don't want to fly Boeing and Southwest is all Boeing so
that's my report. Well, that stinks. It does stink it's not
it's not it's not there
John C Dvorak: are see five pilots you think it by anything
new but they don't
Adam Curry: want to fly that they don't want to fly
southwest.
John C Dvorak: I guess not. No.
Adam Curry: It's pride month, John. Time to make fun.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yes, I've been I only had my one
opportunity for this. I guess you must have a few.
Adam Curry: I do. Yes. I got some Chicago local news. The
University of Illinois has been has received an award for their
let me see what is it the LGBTQ plus health care equality high
performer and boy, the ladies on the show we're all Jide it's a
two parter.
Unknown: His pride month the University of Illinois Hospital
and Clinics have a lot to celebrate who I
have has been recognized as an LGBTQ plus health care equality
leader for the ninth year in a row. That means they are going
beyond the basics when it comes to adopting policies and
practices in queer care. Dr. Mimi arquilla Queer
Adam Curry: care, here it is John does the new one queer care
we have no health care, no queer care comes
Unknown: to adopting policies and practices in queer care. Dr.
Muni, Aquila and Carl Johnson, join us now with more. Thank you
so much for being here. Thanks for having us. Thank you. Yeah.
So Doctor, tell us what this designation really means.
Adam Curry: Doctor, what is queer care? Can we start there?
Unknown: Okay, so it means that our health care facility was
evaluated in four areas. And those areas being the programs
and services we provide for LGBTQ plus people, the our what
our foundational practices are, in terms of organization, in
terms of our involvement with the community, and also in terms
of our employee benefits and services. And so we provide
services in all four of those areas, and we do it, we feel
very well. And that is how we get that designation is because
we were able to achieve high status, high status high
standards in those areas. And it's
so important to promote inclusive care. What does that
mean, tell all of our viewers Yeah, so I think when
Adam Curry: underserved by the way, this this clearly woman who
you're hearing female voice is dressed and looks like a dude,
Unknown: what does that mean? Tell all of our viewers Yeah, so
I think when understanding inclusive care, you first have
to kind of understand that not everyone has the same experience
in healthcare. And that can be for a lot of reasons. It can be
because of gender, sexual orientation, race, insurance,
status, lots of different things. And with Inclusive care,
the goal is to provide high quality care, to everyone. And
to do that you really have to break down barriers and meet the
community where it's at and really address those needs. So
Adam Curry: I was about to throw this clip away. I'm like this.
They said absolutely nothing other than we excel at queer
care, which is just, it's just offensive. What is queer care? I
mean, that's not even a gender. But now Now we have queer care.
And I would have tossed it out had I not gotten a complete
explanation of what they really won the award for in this second
clip, talk about
Unknown: some of those hesitations that people might
face in going to get care where someone may not even think that
this is something that other people are facing.
Yeah, so there's a lot of reasons people don't like going
to the doctor. Yeah, I think in particular for LGBTQ people. It
can be, you know, fearful of other situations that have
happened that have been unpleasant like being called the
wrong name being misgendered as you know, invasive questions
that don't really have to do with what you're there for, or
just having a provider who doesn't know a whole lot about
LGBTQ health care. And as someone who's not only a doctor,
but like a patient and has had all of those experiences at
other healthcare institutions, I completely understand why people
don't want to go to the doctor and I really empathize with
them. But I think it also kind of drives me to advocate for,
you know, a really great healthcare experience. And, you
know, similar to you i health, you know, the guiding forces
kind of treat others the way you'd want to be treated. And in
doing so, you know, there's a lot of things to make people
more comfortable at the doctor in the healthcare setting. All
Adam Curry: right here, we're getting down to it. So it's
about being misgendered. And what what actually can we do to
win this award and make you feel comfortable?
Unknown: And, you know, some of those things are as easy as
wearing like a pronoun pen to let people know what pronouns
are asking people, their name, their pronouns, using those
correctly, and just creating a welcoming environment. It's
about
Adam Curry: the pronouns. up to it, yes, it's all about wearing
a pronoun pin. So people know that you're an ally, and that
you care about pronouns. That's it, because this person was
misgendered. Somewhere. And this one minutes, queer care. Well,
but I love the wall, but your insurance status I have no, I
literally have no health insurance.
John C Dvorak: But you had some sort of Texas thing? No,
Adam Curry: I have. You know, we have crowd health, which is it's
crowd funding. So you, you pay like 300 bucks a month. That's
reasonable. And, yeah, but we were paying 1800 a month. For
the two of us. That's not reasonable and deductible
$16,000 Are you kidding me? Yeah, this is ridiculous.
Unknown: That's just the whole thing. So the chip
Adam Curry: is a complete chip. But if you go for the queer
care, Oh, you don't have to have any insurance, your query will
take care of, you know, maybe I might have to this seems to be
some benefits.
John C Dvorak: So I just had to change topics a little bit. I do
have a clip. He says we brought up the very beginning of the
show, which was what can trigger a collapse of the AI phenomenon.
Yeah. And so I have this what I call the wild clip, which is a
clip that addresses this a little bit it's from NPR it's
about the Clear View suit. It is not really being covered very
well but it's
Adam Curry: layer view is are those the guys that that sell
all the pictures to the cops?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, facial recognition company. Yeah, that
company. Yeah.
Unknown: Play. Yep.
Just play soul recognition. Startup clear view AI reached a
settlement and the lawsuit alleging its massive photo
collection of faces, violated the subjects privacy rights.
attorneys say the deal could be worth more than $50 million. To
Ed Sheeran. Johnson Coleman gave preliminary approval to the
agreement yesterday. But the unique agreement gives
plaintiffs in the case a share of the company's potential
value, rather than a traditional payout. Clear View is not
admitting fault as part of the agreement.
John C Dvorak: Okay, what makes this wow to me is that these
companies have find, especially a public company decided, hey,
what if we do the payout of these lawsuits in stock? I
thought that was just a good idea. It
Adam Curry: is a good idea. Yeah, okay.
John C Dvorak: We Oh, why do $100 million? Okay, let's issue
some more
Adam Curry: stock after they do an offering for that they do a
seconder.
John C Dvorak: I just I think it's a private it'd be a private
offering. You could do it. There's all kinds of scam ish
ways to do it. I
Adam Curry: could do a pipe.
John C Dvorak: They could do a lot of things. But it's it's
just genius. As far as I'm concerned, companies note this
even for say Ford, you know, General Motors, they have a Ford
during the pinto era. Oh, instead of giving people money
and have some
Adam Curry: stock stock. That is a good idea. Well, speaking of
speaking of lawsuits, or legal matters, so, you know, although
there's not a lot of reporting in the US, per se, about the
Saudi Arabia D dollar rising, just going to use that term, by
apparently not renewing the deal to only sell their oil in US
dollars making the US dollar the reserve currency. Well, I think
that we're new. We're starting to nudge them a little bit. That
CBS out of the blue the CIA broadcasting system starts to
bring up an old story which includes the 28 pages that were
not included in the non commissioned report. Oh yeah,
Unknown: CBS News exclusive the unnerving video outside the US
Capitol film two years before the 911 attacks. Good evening,
I'm Nora O'Donnell and thank you for being with us. Two decades
ago, the 911 Commission found that all kinda acted alone. But
victims families say that is not true. pointing to this video and
other evidence is proof. They are suing Saudi Arabia claiming
its government provided crucial assistance to the hijackers and
planners behind the September 11 attacks that killed nearly 3000
people. 60 minutes correspondent Cecilia Vega reports
a voice on the video says in Arabic, I am transmitting these
scenes to you from the heart of the American capitol,
Washington. This video unsealed in Federal Court this week and
obtained by 60 minutes was recorded in the summer of 1999.
Man Behind the camera is Omar lbu. Me who the FBI says was an
operative of the Saudi intelligence service with close
ties to two of the 911 hijackers. The video was filmed
over several days, the UMi recorded entrances and exits of
the Capitol security posts a model of the building and nearby
landmarks in this portion of the video but unique points out the
Washington Monument and says I will get over there and report
to you in detail what is there. He also notes the airport is not
far away. So
Adam Curry: then they bring in a whole bunch of former spooks to
confirm this and this was probably related to flight 93
Richard
Unknown: Lambert is a retired FBI agent who led the initial
911 investigation in San Diego, where bu me and the two
hijackers live temporarily before the attacks. He's now a
consultant on the case filed by the 911 families if
you've ever flown into Washington DC, one of the first
things you see on the horizon is the Washington Monument. So if
you know where your other targets are in terms of the
Washington Monument, it helps guide you to your intended
target.
Federal investigators believe the hijackers on flight 93,
which crashed near Shanksville, Pennsylvania had the US Capitol
as their likely target. The lawyers for the 911 families and
former intelligence analysts we spoke to believe portions of the
video show be Umi surveilling the capitol as part of that
plan. And in the video, he references a quote plan. You
said that in the plan, what plan
I was talking to what do you think he's talking about? I
think he's talking to the al Qaeda planners who tasked him to
take the pre operational surveillance video of the
intended target.
So this video is taken in late June and early July of 1999.
What does that timing tell you? Well, that
means it was taken within 90 days of the time when senior al
Qaeda planners reached the decision that the Capitol would
be a target of the 911 attacks.
That's when Osama bin Laden decided to approve Khalid Sheikh
Mohammed so called planes operation. In the days after 911
British police discovered the video during a raid on Bay
yummies UK apartment. They also cease by unis handwritten
address book that the lawyers for the 911 families say was
filled with phone numbers of numerous senior Saudi officials
who were in the government at the time.
Adam Curry: I don't believe any of this story, of course, but it
that's not the point. The point is, okay, Saudi Arabia. Well, we
got your number.
John C Dvorak: We go back to the 911. situation at the time,
there was a lot of discussion about suing Saudi Arabia. Yes.
And our government blocked it. Yes. Because we had no no no,
you can't sue them because they're our friends. And so it
got blocked never happened and then this, but we all knew that
there was some some information that was left out of the report
and which could be anything that could create the had number of
years to create this whole thing could be like you think is maybe
a fake? But yes, this is exactly right. This is a little pressure
point, because if Saudi Arabia got blamed and sued by all these
by the 3000 families that were harmed, they it would be a
nightmare. That was the idea was to prevent that the nightmare
now Okay, you guys are going to screw us out of our petro dollar
deal that you agreed to either resign up or the nightmare
begins. That's what this is a
Adam Curry: little annoying fact.
John C Dvorak: That was good. That was good. Find. I'll give
you a clip of the day. Wow.
Adam Curry: Thank you. Unexpected I just I came across
it. I'm like, hey, yeah, winter clip that.
John C Dvorak: Let me clip that. And that's what the show is all
about. That's what
Adam Curry: it's always about. But I want to move into Israel
is now just Israel versus everybody.
John C Dvorak: I do have the Gaza update from PBS. If you
want to just start with that. Oh,
Adam Curry: yeah, we'll start with that. Hold on a second.
Gauze. Gauze update
Unknown: PBS. Here we go. death toll in Gaza climbed higher
today following two Israeli airstrikes on separate
locations. One hit a refugee camp, and another struck an
Eastern neighborhood of Gaza City. Palestinian and hospital
officials said at least 39 people were killed. Israel's
military said they were targeting to Hamas military
sites. And in Tel Aviv tonight 1000s of people rallied to
demand new elections and call for Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu to reach a deal to bring hostages home.
Adam Curry: They keep trying to get him out. He's just like,
nope, nope, I'm just gonna sit here for a bar. It's
John C Dvorak: mostly western reporting that talks about this
way. If you get it, if you get to the Middle East reporting,
there's less of it. Oh, yeah. Trying to get him out. I think
this is us trying to get him out? Well,
Adam Curry: I don't think we're trying to well, maybe the Biden
administration, but the whole idea here is exactly what we
heard from Massey, Representative Massey, you said,
these military industrial complex donors to AIPAC. They
want war, they want more war. They want war, not just within
Gaza. That's just that's just a starter pack. We want to go to
Lebanon. It's on the west Clarke seven, and they want to get to
Iran. And that's where this is headed. Here's NPR
Unknown: we have to remember the Lebanese state is extremely weak
and Hezbollah was created with the help of Iran, largely to
fight Israel after the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982. Mr.
Allah said his group is much better arm now. And as an
example, he noted drone footage released this week with detailed
images of potential targets in Haifa, Israel's major port city,
he gloated that with all of Israel's air defenses, the drone
was able to slip through them. And he said that if there were
war, Hezbollah would fight with what he said were no rules. As
for reaction, Israel's Foreign Minister dismissed Israel as
remarks saying that if it came to war, Hezbollah would be
destroyed and Lebanon severely hit and Israel also has
interests in a gas field off the coast of Lebanon. Oh, yes,
Adam Curry: yes. Oh, Leviathan. Leviathan right over there.
Beautiful. And the BBC, of course, chimed in the
Unknown: UN chief Antonio Guterres has warned that
escalating tensions on Israel's northern border could trigger a
catastrophe and turn Lebanon into quote, another Gaza. All
Out conflict has been threatening to erupt there since
the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah began firing missiles
into northern Israel following the October the seventh
massacre, prompting tit for tat responses from Israel.
Adam Curry: It's so interesting how this how this happens, like
well, you know, we're almost done there and Gaza, we've
killed everybody. You know what, why don't we lob some missiles.
It's our turn now. Now we're gonna do it. Israeli
Unknown: strikes into southern Lebanon have displaced more than
90,000 people on the Lebanese side of the border. But some
have stayed, saying it's better to die at home with dignity than
be driven out of their land like the Palestinians. Fear of all
out war extends as far as the capital of Beirut, where some
say they keep suitcases packed and passports ready. In case
full scale war breaks out. Hezbollah is a well trained,
well armed military, backed by Iran, Iraq. Its leader Hassan
Nasrallah has threatened to invade Israel if full scale war
breaks out and says nowhere in the country will be spared. But
Israel has been talking up its readiness to take them on. tough
talk is part of both sides strategy of deterrence. But the
line between deterrence and decision on a wall is becoming
harder to see. But the longer this conflict goes on, the more
it turns into playing with fire.
Adam Curry: I mean, war is such a great business. I mean, how's
Raytheon stock? Is that doing anything that doing anything? I
mean? Take a look at the year to date. Oh, yeah. He was at $85 in
January, it's 105. Now Beautiful, beautiful. Raytheon
stock up. That's great. You know, then you remember all my
Iranian friends always say oh, no, no, no, they are. They're
America and Iran. They're there. They play these games together.
And then when we have Russia doing deals with North Korea.
You can't make this up. South
Unknown: Korea has condemned the defense pact that North Korea
signed with Russia. Earlier this week. The foreign ministry
called it a threat to peace and stability on the Korean
peninsula. So someone Russia's ambassador to the Foreign
Ministry to discuss its concerns. While the details of
the military pact are still murky, South Korea is worried
that it could encourage North Korean aggression. So all
announced in response that it was considering sending weapons
to Ukraine to support its defense against Russia.
Adam Curry: Are you kidding me? So NASA now we have North Korea
and South Korea representing Russia and Ukraine. Are you
kidding me? Frank,
Unknown: Vladimir Putin wants you all that supporting Ukraine
would be a very big mistake. I was still interpreting that
warning.
Well, I think solar is still interpreting that warning. One
of the articles of this agreement suggested that each
country North Korea and Russia would come to each other's aid
with all means, if they were in a state of war, the Korean War
ended with an armistice not a peace treaty. So a state of war
arguably exists now on the Korean peninsula.
Pawleys? This is just sick. It's unbelievable.
Adam Curry: Just pushing it right in our face. Oh, look,
we'll make some more war stuff over here. Now spend more on
war.
John C Dvorak: In the middle is a good way to waste money. Yeah,
we
Adam Curry: got people with Trank just upside down in the
streets. bent over
John C Dvorak: to I have my to Ukraine, Ukraine. I'm sorry. To
hit right Ukraine. I got a couple of Ukraine updates one
from NPR and contrasting with one from PBS.
Adam Curry: Okay. I think
John C Dvorak: they're both but they're both short. But let's
see how they do. Let's start with NPR. Russia
Unknown: launched a major attack of guided bombs on heart Kyiv
Ukraine's second biggest city overnight, killing at least
three people and injuring more than a dozen witnesses. A four
explosions were heard around the city. And Moscow also targeted
Ukraine's power grid for the eighth time in the past three
months. Ukraine's Air Force as its defense systems shot down 12
of the 16 missiles and all 13 drones launched by Russia.
Adam Curry: Ma'am, Eric Schmidt's make an out on this
deal. Remember, he was doing all the drones in Ukraine?
John C Dvorak: He's making I don't know. I don't remember
that. Yeah, yeah. We had a
Adam Curry: whole he had a whole sit down with Fareed Zakaria and
he's like go drones gonna be drones and he was right. It's
all drones everyone's drones
John C Dvorak: oh actually the guided bombs are the more they
it's interesting that NPR mentioned the guided bombs which
is really what the Russians are. Did know when you stop these
things because they're coming down at the speed of gravity
right the glider buzzing around. I find it interesting at PBS I
don't believe in this clip even mentions the guided bombs.
Ukrainian
Unknown: president Volodymyr Zelensky, said Russia has
launched more than 2400 guided missiles and Ukrainian targets
this month alone. His remarks followed a deadly day of attacks
that killed three people and injured dozens more in Hartke.
That's Ukraine's second largest city. So Alinsky said Ukraine
needs more help from Western allies.
Adam Curry: So I got some useful news. From Africa news, it's not
about Africa. This is the only place I could find this, where
Putin is reaching out to NATO.
Unknown: During a briefing with graduate military and law
enforcement schools in Moscow. Russian President Vladimir Putin
expressed his willingness to engage in discussions regarding
security matters with NATO member countries. Recently at a
meeting with the leadership of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
I outlined our vision on the work to create people and in
divisible security in Eurasia, we are ready for a broad
international discussion of these key vital issues, both
with our colleagues in the Shanghai Cooperation
Organization, the CIS, the Eurasian Economic Community,
BRICS and other international associations, and NATO states
among others, naturally, by the time when they are ready for
this, in addition, Putin pledged to enhance the nuclear
capabilities of his nation and equip the military with a state
of weaponry. So
Adam Curry: he's wants to talk but in the meantime, ramp up the
nukes. They don't want to talk. No, of course they don't want to
talk to himself. They never talk about peace ever, ever.
John C Dvorak: I have no money in it. Peace
Adam Curry: is not profitable. I have a little bit some updates
on the bird flu, which has gone kind of quiet during this week
as I noticed this during this week of of the debate. At first
we have Larkin soon to be de malarkey. And she provides a
boots on the ground. She says I'm a third generation farmer in
California and I have so much farming information to share
with you guys. It is our busy season, but I'll try to send
more info soon. Although the war on chickens jingle is one of the
best, I believe it is. I believe it is a war on protein, beef,
dairy and chicken and just farmers in general. Notice, you
don't hear much about pork. This is true. Of course, the Chinese
own the pork industry in the US smithfield foods. We don't hear
much about pork. It's only chicken, beef dairy, not about
pork.
John C Dvorak: It's interesting, I think. Yes. And when you add
the pork prices are extremely low right now.
Adam Curry: Hmm. Yeah. The summer of pork is what we talked
about.
John C Dvorak: Chinese pork talked about this summer of
pork. We
Adam Curry: I literally said the summer of pork on the show.
Yeah. All right. Don't make me look it up. Now. I
John C Dvorak: want you to look it up.
Adam Curry: And I reached out to my friends who did very well in
the testing business during COVID. Your buddies? Yeah. And I
said, What are you hearing about the bird flu? Here's what came
back. The CDC made a call out last week to see li a certified
laboratories, asking them to create rapid tests for bird flu,
just like they did when COVID started and a surplus of rapid
tests popped up on the market. I'll keep you posted. So
John C Dvorak: Oh, that'd be more free tests. Yeah. Load up.
We
Adam Curry: know it's a bonanza. We know it's a bonanza.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I get to test for free but somebody's
paying for him.
Adam Curry: Exact taxpayer US government.
Yes, the vape wars and the vape wars are back on I see you have
to vape walk vapour clips. I'd
John C Dvorak: like to start with pathetic. Oh, good.
Adam Curry: Let's start with those.
John C Dvorak: Let's start with this is about trying to get kids
off of these things. And this is considered a crisis. So let's go
to teen vape crisis is good stuff. One
Unknown: of my friends was so addicted, she would say things
like, I'll just die at 20 Whatever.
2.1 million teens vaped and 2023. A third of whom were just
in middle school.
Adam Curry: What? Who's doing this reporting? What outfit?
John C Dvorak: I believe this is NPR
Unknown: at a Senate hearing Wednesday, lawmakers asked the
FDA why it's failing to tackle the problems. This is
a shelf full of potentially dangerous substances in a store
in the shadow of the FDA building. I'm just trying to
figure out if any of this is illegal or how in the hill it's
legal.
Senator Tom Tillis points to flavors such as strawberry
dragon fruit, watermelon, even watermelon bubblegum the FDA is
director of tobacco products Brian King never directly
answered.
We do have a pre market paradigm for reviewing applications and
the sheer volume of that app. The volume of those applications
and the volume of the market requires us to prioritize our
enforcement efforts.
The president of the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids, Yolanda
Richardson answered in his place, FDA
failed to assert its regulatory authority over E cigarettes
until a substantial e cigarette market had already formed, and E
cigarettes had already become the most popular tobacco product
among youth. FDA then further delay
e cigarette popularity exploded in the mid 2000s. When they
entered the market, the US market was valued at $28 billion
in 2023 and is expected to grow at a compound annual rate of
30.6%. From 2023 to 2030. Only 23 e cigarette brands are
authorized for sale in the US but over 6000 brands are on the
market.
Adam Curry: What is this is real. This is actually quite
good. Because I know what this is about. What is interesting is
they keep saying e cigarette and tobacco product vape is not a
tobacco product. There's no tobacco in it. Nicotine Yes. But
that's not a tobacco this was the whole problem is that kids
were vaping and they weren't smoking so the MSA the master
states agreement that you know, the tax money was going down,
down down because these kids are not on tobacco. Now all of a
sudden, vape is an e cigarette. And it's a tobacco product. This
is the new, this is the new thing they're doing. This is a
big switcheroo. Well,
John C Dvorak: they've done a good job of it. You know, the
funny thing is I had listened to and recorded and edited these
reports. I, I don't see anybody using vapes at all and in the
Bay Area.
Adam Curry: While you're about to, and I'll tell you why. But I
want to hear okay, well, that's
Unknown: up to you can tell me why over a quarter of youth e
cigarette users use the products every
day. One of the primary reasons as you have heard, children are
attracted to E cigarettes is the sweet fruit candy and mint
flavors.
They come in
Dr. Susan Wally helps people get off nicotine products. She says
it's very difficult to get children to quit because of the
high nicotine volume and vapes.
The adolescent brain is more susceptible to nicotine
addiction. So symptoms of dependence can appear in days to
weeks. A first experimentation she says
for most teens usage is consistent, frequent and
dependent such as the case with high schooler Josie Shapiro.
The first flavor I tried was blueberry ice. But I tried
pretty much every flavor my friends had. I thought I was
just enjoying the flavors. But soon my 14 year old brain crave
the nicotine more and more Shapiro is
still addicted. She says vaping is affecting her mood, her
ability to breathe, her skin and her social life.
I've tried to quit vaping over and over again. But it's really
really hard. Everything in my life is a trigger, hanging out
with friends driving my car, going to the bathroom going into
the convenience store. All of it makes me want to
vape the FDA and Department of Justice have pledged further
cooperation and battling teen vaping they're forming a task
force with several other agencies, including the Postal
Service. Yes.
John C Dvorak: Before you go on with your analysis. I don't know
if you notice this, but she said she's a 14 year older as her 14
year old brain. Yeah, she's reading from a script. And then
she said she was driving a car.
Adam Curry: Isn't that interesting?
John C Dvorak: How does that work? How does it for you know
as she's stolen, it steals cars have a license if she's 14
joyriding we used to do that. There's something about this
report that that kind of bothered me. All right. So
Adam Curry: we have to go back and I know we have vape experts
out there who will help me if I go astray and please feel free
to email me because this I'm a vapor but it's not an e
cigarette okay, it's a big battery and I wind the coil and
I've got you know pure cotton not from China. So first we had
jewel this is really what it was the jewel e cigarette the vape
which was you know, you put in a little thing in there a little
cartridge and right Reynolds bought it or who was it who owns
Marlboro. So Philip Morris Philip Morris, I guess they
bought it, they bought it they tanked the company blew the
company up. What's happened now is all these companies that
wanted to have specially these flavors, they're all out of
business because the FDA said you can only get something on
the market if you pay to have every single flavor and every
nicotine level tested at about a million bucks per flavor per
nicotine level. So all these companies went out of business
vaping is pretty much is dead, except for the Chinese. That's
why the Postal Service was involved in that report. The
Chinese are flooding the market with absolute crap because all
these flavors what who knows what they're putting in that?
But that's not what this is about. This is about bringing
back jewel. I think one or two shows ago we had the FDA going
oh yeah, no jewel. Yeah, we're gonna approve you now. And right
on cue after they took menthol cigarettes out menthol
cigarettes who smokes menthol cigarettes, black America, smoke
slit lamp menthol cigarettes, let's bring them back in people.
Unknown: The FDA has approved the sale of the first menthol e
cigarettes. For adults, the authorization does not mean
vaping is safe, but health officials say it can be a little
bit less harmful. As an alternative to regular
cigarettes. The move already is getting pushed back from anti
smoking groups who argue it's only going to fuel the youth
vaping epidemic further.
Adam Curry: And why do they want all this? This is because of
Senate Bill 2929 to amend Internal Revenue Code of 1986
provide tax rate parity among all tobacco products and for
other purposes. And this is also known as the What is this
called? The Tobacco Tax Equity Act cuts. And what do they
insert into the tax code? Nicotine taxable nicotine?
Remember, it's not a tobacco product. So now Oh, yeah, this
is how we do it. View on do you want to do something bad kids no
problem as long as we can tax it. So now they're going to tax
the vapes. And now we make it legal again. We just have to get
the Chinese stuff off of the market. It's so insidious, they
ruined a burgeoning industry. Almost got Trump in on the deal.
If you remember that Melania saying, Oh, no, this vaping is
bad. And then Trump was like, yeah, and then he spun on a
dime, and then dropped out of that whole thing. Because this
was the scam they were pulling. They ruined all competition,
gave it to the big tobacco guys. And now they make it legal
again, with their approved tobacco products, which is not
tobacco, it's nicotine, and it's taxed. It's a beautiful scam.
John C Dvorak: It's excellent.
Adam Curry: I have to say, if you're gonna do it, do it well.
But don't pretend like you have these little
John C Dvorak: screens, you can pretend all you want doesn't
matter. Nobody cares.
Adam Curry: I care. But you're the only one. I'm not the only
I'm not the only vapor.
John C Dvorak: No, I'm saying you're the only one who cares
about the scam? Oh, well, you
Adam Curry: because I'm not in on it.
John C Dvorak: Which, by the way, is a very interesting cake.
I'm not going to expose the scams I'm not involved in.
Adam Curry: I just have one one more clip I wanted to play about
the anti Defamation League because this just cracks me up.
This is This is too funny. It's from morning, Joe. So it's like
everyone's going crazy. What side are we supposed to be on?
We had to be on the on the Jews side on the Arab side, the Hamas
side, the Hezbollah side, we're confused. Let's go to Wikipedia,
one of
Unknown: the world's most popular information websites,
has declared the anti Defamation League as an unreliable source.
The editors at Wikipedia now say that the top Jewish civil rights
group and one of the world's preeminent authorities on anti
Jewish hate is not a reliable source for information about the
ISRAEL PALESTINE conflict and anti semitism. They're claiming
that because it's you guys are both in their words, advocacy
and a resource organization. So therefore, the advocacy, taints
the research, what do you make? I mean, look, our processes are
rigorous. Our methodologies are sound, they stand up to
scrutiny. Everything is transparent, done very above the
board. We have a team of PhDs who does work, anti semitism is
up, acts of harassment, vandalism, and violent violence
are up. And if you don't have the leading organization in the
world, tracking anti semitism in our data on Wikipedia, anti
semitism will continue to increase. I mean, we work with
policymakers, we work with journalists, we work with
elected officials, law enforcement to shed a light on
this,
Adam Curry: I just love that they're taking wiki pedia
seriously.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's pathetic. But there's also an
ill logic. And what he said in the old logic is that if we're
not doing our jobs and antiSemitism will increase,
well, you're doing your jobs and it's increasing anyway. So what
good are you
Adam Curry: just love the the editors or Wikipedia determined
John C Dvorak: that Wikipedia has always been woke, and it's
got all kinds of issues. It's completely wrong about half a
dozen things that these stays with it. A bunch
Adam Curry: of spooks running it is hilarious, I think is great.
Oh, by the way, sir Jake, sent me a note. We were talking about
Taco Tuesday on the on the Eisenhower was the Eisenhower,
John C Dvorak: which says, oh, yeah, the USS Eisenhower
Adam Curry: versus Eisenhower. And I was like, Oh, what's this
with Taco Tuesday? Well, I got slapped as an evil supply
officer who has been in charge of galleys on ships. Hiking,
confirm that Taco Tuesday is a huge hit of Sailor favorite, and
something we simply can't do without if Taco Tuesdays went
away. It would be a morale Crusher. Good to know.
John C Dvorak: I doubt it's good to know I
Adam Curry: take it from Sir Jake. And he uses he knows
what's up. Well,
John C Dvorak: if he before he take our final break, I do have
a kind of a second half a show couple of clips. You
Adam Curry: know, well, let me just throw the Theramin in. All
right now we're entering second half of show you've taken over
my gig. Let's find
John C Dvorak: out nobody else is doing it. No source. So this
is a podcast called Forbidden news that has gotten a lot of
attention on the on the Twitter and some other social networks
and it's just a couple of blowhards. This guy Oh loony or
Loony, whatever his name is British guys, and they're
talking about the UN troops are coming in to take over
everything. Oh, yeah,
Adam Curry: this is always good. Yeah, the blue helmets are
coming. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: And they're gonna come in, and they come in, in
United States too. But this is the British version. It's the
same kind of story that we get here. But this is a bunch of
Brits talking back and forth about it. And to listen to this
insanity is just beyond me. So this UN soldiers on Forbidden
news,
Unknown: you know, we talked about a lot of things to do with
COVID, and what your experiences were with all of that, but
you've also been speaking out about something else that seems
to be growing exponentially every day. And that is the mass
illegal immigration that's going on in England, in Wales, in
Scotland, and over in Ireland as well. I mean, it is quite
literally, off the charts and a lot of people. A lot of people
say, Look, this isn't normal. There's something not right.
This isn't just refugees coming in. These aren't people fleeing
from some kind of war zone. These are predominantly men,
aged between 25 and 35. Young fighting age men as my old boss,
Nigel Farage once referred to them, and I think he's right.
John, what do you think's going on here, rather,
so I can tell you these are un soldiers and they will be
deployed by the who, when they announced the next pandemic
lockdown. That's what's going to happen. They've been trained by
British soldiers have been trained by the Black Watch
regiment. They were trained in them in Antalya in Turkey, and
in the east of Ukraine. They're predominantly down to Sergeant
ranks there then shipped to France. They all signed the
Official Secrets Act. Then they're ferried over and the
idea of them being ferried over is they're lost at sea. So they
have to be under international law saved from being lost at sea
and that's why they take the route they do. The boats are
housed in a home office compound. And then they're
shipped back to France on to British Hall his firm lorries
and I could supply you the details of the reg numbers to
play an unsigned written lorries, the pallets, the
outboard motors are strapped on pallets, they go on one lorry,
the boats go on to the other lorry, and they're sent back to
France for reuse. I've got 11 gigabytes of footage. There's a
guy down there ex military. He's been using drones and
surveillance on them for a long time.
Adam Curry: What made you listen to this? I
John C Dvorak: got into a back and forth is one of our
producers.
Adam Curry: So it's one of the I love these emails. Like, this is
great. You got to listen to this. You got to watch this
three hour rumble video. Yes,
John C Dvorak: always rumble
Adam Curry: and you did it.
John C Dvorak: I did. So
Adam Curry: age men, there it is, again, military age, man.
Yeah. Same trope. Yeah, this is
John C Dvorak: it. So total trope, that people that I have
the guts to, to make these kinds of, you know, they leave one
country and go to another one way or another. They tends to be
people in a certain age group, because you're not going to find
90 year old man or kids or anything in between. So it's
military age men. And so but the rationale, this is what I have
these clips, it's the rationale and the delusion that these guys
Express, and I hear it from from our producers that get into this
too. It's delusional to imagine that any of these you know this,
I have clips I have. There's a guy who has been taking movies,
I got a million hours of it. It was
Adam Curry: the door he was on Jimmy Dore, it must be real.
Yes,
John C Dvorak: exactly. And so I so I have the and I consider the
second half of show nuttiness. Let's go into part two.
Unknown: Just Just to recap, you've got you've got evidence
that these boats that are coming in, they're only doing that big,
so to sort of to meet some kind of or pass through underneath
some kind of radar in terms of legislation.
If you're lost at sea, they're obliged to save you. And that's
the idea of them coming over in small rubber boats. Is they lost
at sea. That's, that's the maritime law. Yes. So
you're saying that these are not normal, illegal moves,
if you think about it logically, and kind of based on common
sense, if you were fleeing war and tyranny, I don't know about
you, but I would certainly take my wife and children with me
their most precious, they're my prized asset. You know, they're
everything to me. If you're going to war, you go to war with
the lads. And that's these young men are coming over, they going
to be deployed, they will be deployed, and people will see
then, you know, and I don't doubt there will still be some
Muppets that will stand on their doorsteps, bag and pots and
pans. Do you know, thanking these young men for helping us
you know, because As initially there'll be deployed in what's
perceived or conveyed as a humanitarian role. But
I'm going to tell you something, I nearly fell off my chair when
I interviewed this young woman, his name is Nigel McConnell.
He's an Irish political candidate. And I had an
interview with him a couple of years ago. And he was telling
me, and I'd been aware of this, but he was telling me that these
illegal migrants are being recruited for police, that
they're illegal, right? But they're going to be given the
the position of police officers in Ireland, to face out of
people and to vote as well.
Adam Curry: To vote. Oh, my goodness. You know, if you send
me one of these links, or it's like a corporate report, and I
don't reply to you as corporate report, it's because we have
been doing this for 17 years. I mean, I even got someone the
other day, you clearly aren't familiar with the cue strategy.
John C Dvorak: I mean, that's, that's still not a brown. Is it?
You?
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. And there was, um, there was because I was
talking about Trump, like, you know, he hired all these
horrible people. He's good at firing, but he's not good at
hiring. No, no, no, you'd understand. That's the cue
strategy. Keep your enemies even closer. Oh, okay. Please, this
is JFK Jr. is going to be his vice presidential. If JFK Jr. is
his vice presidential pick, and JFK Jr. comes back from the
dead. I will eat my boot.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's a that's a bet you. That's yeah,
you can make these kinds of assertions because you're the
chances are zero in hell
Adam Curry: and Fauci is Mama's Mother Teresa. I mean, it's
crazy.
John C Dvorak: I liked that one. Yeah. Just
Adam Curry: look at her face. And look. Okay, so here's where
it is the same blue and white colors from Epstein's islands.
Uh huh.
John C Dvorak: So here we go with the part three and this the
end on
Unknown: to vote. That's what nearly made me fell off my
chair. Because he said they just have to be proved that they've
been living there in any capacity can be a tent for the
last six months. Yes. And they will then be allowed to stand in
the elections were elected.
Yes, yes. And your legal migrants do you want people fine
facilitating that? You know what happened to Shin Fein
one time Shin fit a lot of people in America who they still
don't haven't woken up to this yet. Yeah. One time Shin Fein
was seen as the political arm of the IRA. Yes, they were fighting
for Irish Republic ism, or whatever.
They were fighting for Ireland. And now look, Ireland. Now let's
destroy an island.
John C Dvorak: It goes on. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I can imagine. Well, you're very brave. You're very
brave to have sat through all that. A podcast. I know. I have
my hopes still high on podcast, but especially Do you know that?
Have you been following just as the last little bit here that
it's, you know, quote unquote, Soros. I'm not even sure who
that is anymore. But the Soros organization has been getting
all kinds of waivers from the FCC to buy Odyssey the Odyssey
is probably kind of next to I heart one of the biggest radio
conglomerates and they got everybody on there like Oh,
Kennedy and Mark Levine and all these guys and so everyone's
like oh, Soros is he's going to take or he's going to brew is
going to get rid of of conservative voices. Do you not
been following them?
John C Dvorak: No, I have not even heard any of this until you
right now.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. No, it's It's him. FCC waivers boost
Soros bid to further silence the right with Odyssey takeover. And
so Odyssey has a B flat so they already put forward they were
already shareholder. Video The Odyssey filed for bankruptcy and
so they put $400 million in the Soros organization. Weekly the
network reaches 165 million listeners. Conservative hosts
including Sean Hannity, Dana lash lash, lash lash, loose
lash, Mark Levin, blush, Glenn Beck, and Erik Erikson. So the
thinking here is that he's going to take them all off the air and
put on some lefties. And I'm like, Do you have any idea that
radio is dead? That median age of the radio listener is 75.
This is this is over? No, podcasting is the future with
these guys from Ireland.
John C Dvorak: That's what, that's what the future's grim.
However
Unknown: you look at it. I'm gonna show my school by donate
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Adam Curry: All right, we're gonna thank everyone who came
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John C Dvorak: but that there'll be no sad puppies.
Adam Curry: Yeah, and but next we're clubbing a baby seal.
John, take us through to the 50s All right, let's
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Unknown: day days, you will be triggered. You will be buddy
feels the same.
John C Dvorak: It's like a like a pot. Alright,
Adam Curry: you got any ISOs?
John C Dvorak: I do I have too much you got? I got cannot I
cannot do it again. Okay. And then I got Trump saying not too
good. That's too good.
Adam Curry: I have let me see. I think I'm over. I sewed
actually, here's the Arnold. He was boring. No, or I hated every
minute of it. Come on.
John C Dvorak: That's a good one. That's pretty good.
Adam Curry: Also have How did this get in here? That got in
there that shouldn't be there. That, by the way, is a woman
who's bringing America back together. There's this one
Unknown: and this one, yes. That's right. That's true. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't like to use negative ones. But
from Schwarzenegger. I like the I hated every minute of it.
Unknown: I hated every minute of it.
John C Dvorak: That's kind of clear, crisp. I think we should
you know, we have our mixed feelings about that guy.
Adam Curry: And for your consideration of the day. That's
right. Everybody has time once again for the tip of the day.
Jhansi Dvorak, what do you have in store for us?
John C Dvorak: So you know, one of the things about the shows I
uncomfortable with Oh, is there are ragging on vaccines on the
backs on the COVID shot, the mRNA shot uncomfortable
Adam Curry: with that. I'm
John C Dvorak: uncomfortable knowing that at least half of
our audience has taken this shot.
Adam Curry: Okay, fair enough.
John C Dvorak: So I have so Peter McCullough has a protocol
for ridding yourself of the after effects of the shot. Yes,
yeah, we've kind of discussed what we've never fully
discussed. So I decided just to link to it. And my tip is for
people who had the shot to go look at the protocol and see
what it is and read about it and it's easy to get to it's it's on
the web. It's under, you could type this into check to make
sure it works. Tiny. You are l.com. We all know that
tinyurl.com/no-agenda No hyphen agenda. Oh,
Adam Curry: excellent. Now you just you produce something.
That's good.
John C Dvorak: I pray. Yes, I did. Nice. And so go there and
read that. And then if you you know, this way, I think I think
it's a I think the protocol sounds possible. It sounds like
a winner. McCullough is the one who developed it. And I think it
might be something people should be aware of.
Adam Curry: I like this idea. And so it's tiny URL, or no tiny
What is it again?
John C Dvorak: tinyurl.com/no. Agenda? No, dash agenda? No, no
data agenda. Okay. Yeah, I gave the regular no agendas at work.
I'd like that. Because
Adam Curry: I know people here in town who were forced to take
the vaccine. And they are they have done this protocol. There's
several functional medicine doctors here in town who are
administering this protocol. And from what I hear with great
success, whatever that means people are doing it. And I think
that's a great idea.
John C Dvorak: And it's all it's public domain products is not
like you have to go get a prescription. And
Adam Curry: I've also heard people just taking ivermectin
just on a, like a regular basis. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: for the heck of it. I think just the color and
this protocol, I think is probably better. Yeah. Unless
you have worms, then you ivermectin do the trick.
Unknown: Good news. It's good advice. John sees two.
Adam Curry: Beautiful, beautiful at the end of another broadcast
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John C Dvorak: it from Northern Silicon Valley where it's kinda
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Of course, they passed out the memo to the as you pointed out
the stages.
Unknown: There is so much misinformation disinformation as
we've been caught talking about the president wandering
big fakes videos. These videos are effective because they are
difficult
to fix for reasons the President wandering
means John Pierre and others are calling these cheap fakes cheap
fakes. We're hearing about some called shoe fakes,
the president wandering, even calling it's literally
John C Dvorak: describing what CBS News has been doing for
years. Where was the
Unknown: president wandering?
John C Dvorak: This is so misleading.
Unknown: Video, however, we have seen last few months the videos
targeting Biden are getting a lot more traction online. This
is trying to last us wandering off.
But what about Biden who believes he is fit to lead us?
That's a really good question. Oh, absolutely.
People have been watching. They express concerns about your
mental immunity.
They say that you are too old. Come on, man. Want to go with
the evidence and the truth, the very public and obvious
cognitive decline of the US President? The President is
walking away and there was not one thing funny about it. Oh,
absolutely. Because I know what mental illness looks like. I'm
serious. There is no shame in being unwell. Dr. Joe Biden.
Where are you? What mental illness look? I watched a man
completely void of all awareness that is your judgment aimlessly
wandering away. Oh, absolutely what mental illness looks like.
We've entered a new era series. There is no way in hell Joe
Biden is running America.
Judgment. We want to go with the evidence and the truth.
The claim to this tragedy lies squarely on the people around
him. But what about but I do believe he is fit to lead us?
No, I'm serious. Mental illness look aimlessly wandering away
the very public and obvious cognitive decline for US
president that
is your judgment. There is
no shame in being unwell. The President is seen walking away
No, I'm serious. Because I know what mental illness looks like.
Chill Dr. Jill Biden where are you?
That's a really great question.
No, I'm serious
what mental illness looks like and there is not one thing funny
about it.
Oh absolutely. Come on.
Because I know what mental illness looks like
at one of the most
Adam Curry: I love this whole topic
Unknown: they are here to face video for jobs. Earlier
obviously the fact checkers have repeatedly caught on pushing
misinformation disinformation. Bias is just something coming
from Europe your part of the world calling them and she makes
misinformation.
misinformation. Oh no. Really believing what was being said
and what was the scene
what they are
borak.org/n A I hated every minute of it.