John C Dvorak: How Israeli is he?
Unknown: Adam curry, John C. Devora.
Adam Curry: June 16 2024. This is your award winning
combination media assassination episode 1669. This
Unknown: is no agenda. Celebrating
Adam Curry: dad's and broadcasting live from 11 feet
below sea level from Schiphol Airport in the Netherlands in
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where we all want
to get rid of the term on sweet. I'm Jessie
Unknown: Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: I love it. There's at least a two second delay.
It's great. The opening was not as tight as you think it was.
Unknown: Okay. We'll move on leg.
Adam Curry: Oh, is that what it is? Like? Yes. Well, here I am.
John. 11 feet below sea level at at the airport. And you feel the
pressure? No, no. And honestly, it was supposed to rain this
entire week. Today is an absolutely gorgeous day.
Surprise warming. Surprisingly, yes, surprise. It's
John C Dvorak: funny. They can't predicted weather very
accurately, but yet.
Adam Curry: I know. I know. We had we had the big meetup here.
Yesterday.
Unknown: How they go, dude.
Adam Curry: Dude, dude, it was this is one of the best meetups
I've ever been to. It was. It
John C Dvorak: was embarrassing. The Carnival that they set up
for you in Texas?
Adam Curry: It was up there. I mean, they're all up there. You
know, obviously Indianapolis is good. The the Bastrop meet up
was good. There was 115 producers and they had to chop
it off at 115 because the fire marshal said we couldn't have
more people than 115 and it was it was good. I mean, we had no
agenda. Producers come in early Valtor. And Ruth they they they
organized everything at this place called Cafe Dolch merch
which is really a like a podcast studio but then with a whole
like a whole bar and meeting place connected to it. And and
they they brought food or different kinds of curries that
was pulled pork. I don't know if you saw it. I think it might
have sent you a link below there. No, no, no, we
John C Dvorak: don't know. When I was in headlights. I was gonna
be different curries. You said Oh,
Adam Curry: boy. Did you see the video I took of the amygdala PCR
machine, one of the producers put together? No, oh, you've got
to see that. So it's it looks like he posted. I think on
Twitter, probably. You can look it up real quick. I tell you
this, it kind of looks like a little mini kiosk it was
completely built with a screen and a receipt printer and a hole
on the front. And it says you know, put your finger in the
hole and then had this it had multiple versions of it. But the
screen went by analyzing your amygdala spinning up PCR cycles,
sending off your vaccine status and this whole thing and then at
the end, says pull your finger out. And then it prints out a
little receipt that was your amygdala passport. And the whole
thing was fantastic. It was just one of those creative things
that they do over here.
Unknown: You haven't looked at Oh, have you? Like look, I
John C Dvorak: don't have a Twitter account on this podcast
on computer. I keep it isolated. You
Adam Curry: need to have a Twitter account on your show on
your show rig dude. Dude, you're right, dude. They had the roll
up JCD poster. They had a whole sound system and Frank aka Mike
I think he was the he was spinning tunes everyone's dance
and we had the no agenda jingle bingo, which I had never
witnessed before. But the handout cards with all the
different indoor jingles that I've forgotten, completely
forgotten. And you know, that prizes, which included stuff
like boxes of mac and cheese and screaming goats and it was very
thoughtful. And I would say the main thing and you know, I'll be
thanking some people later because everyone heard what you
said. When they gave a donation they put it in an envelope with
a note came up personally, I think I'm pretty sure I met
everybody spoke with everybody. I was there from, I don't know
four until 11. It was it was a long, long day, especially since
I've just flown in from Texas. But the camaraderie of these
people here we have no idea how bad it was here during the COVID
lockdowns. Remember, they had curfews and all kinds of weird
stuff. You couldn't go anywhere without a QR code that showed
you at it. You know, you're vaccinated. And this is a tight
group. It's so Almost, it's kind of like they went through some
traumatic World War event together. You laugh, but it's,
in a way, it's sad. It's like it must have been really, really
bad. And of course, they had a raffle and we'll be thanking
that executive producer later on. And I would say that too.
There's a lot of people I met Taunton nail, Walter, I'll talk
about later, who I guess had met 32 years ago for the first time
when she was 13. At some, some showbiz event I was doing but
the cool guys who had who had not met before was code monkey
Tim, who did our wet who does our website and also did the No,
no agenda dot stream and OYSTEIN. Bear her, you know him
from, from the from the donation segment.
John C Dvorak: I know him from pronouncing his name wrong. Nine
out of 10 times.
Adam Curry: So Matt, imagine like a Viking who is nine feet
tall, has the whole beard and you know, like the red beard and
the mustache and everything. And he's but He's thin. He's he's
really thin. And he's kind of he's an alien. His dancing was
more like Body Slam kind of mosh pits. He's a funny guy. Anyway,
I'll talk about some of the other producers who were there.
Because a lot of people donated and it was really he was a great
time. Thank you. Thank you to the very tight, no agenda
community here in the Netherlands. People came from
from north from south. Some even came from other countries, just
to be here. It was great. It was groovy. So I really haven't left
the airport. I do have a quick tab, a travel report if you're
interested.
John C Dvorak: I think we've all everybody's interested in a
travel report if it's interesting. Well, it's
Adam Curry: It's short. It's it's more because of the just
how smooth it was. I was a bit concerned I was flying on United
Airlines. It was the cheapest for me to get from San Antonio
to Amsterdam for some reason, the price if you want to go from
if you want to direct flight, you have to go from Austin. It's
three times as expensive and only on delta or KLM. It's like,
okay, and I looked at San Antonio. So I flew from San
Antonio to Houston. And from Houston to Amsterdam. This is
the airline that has a CEO is the dude in the dress. It was on
a Boeing Boeing triple seven. So you know, I don't know what's
you know, there's only two engines. Who knows what's gonna
happen. I have to say, everything was fantastic. The
connection was smooth. It was I had to walk about 15 minutes
when I got to Houston almost walked right straight into
boarding the cabin personnel were cheery and happy and
bright. Just excited to see me.
John C Dvorak: It was a day did they dance? One of
Adam Curry: the guys could have I think but he didn't. It was,
you know, I really expected it to be bad just based on our own
reporting like, what was going on with this airline? It was
great. It really was good.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's good to know. Yeah. Because United is
the main carrier out of San Francisco. Yeah. And of course
you hit the report over the weekend. Was that the it looks
like the Chinese have been selling a fake titanium. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I have a clip. I don't know if you have
John C Dvorak: one please. Yes play a second.
Adam Curry: Here we go. Yes, I got that one. Even more
Unknown: turbulence for Boeing. The commercial airline maker
along with Airbus are staring down allegations that they may
have used counterfeit titanium and their aircraft. That's
according to evidence from a supplier that has now triggered
a Federal Aviation Administration investigation.
Spirit aero system alleges that the two aviation giants use
titanium in their planes that came with paperwork that may
have been falsified. Today's news adds to the growing trouble
for Boeing, which has been the subject of ongoing federal
investigations for many safety problems.
John C Dvorak: You go, they left out the main part of the story.
Adam Curry: Well, I'm glad you're here to tell us that fake
John C Dvorak: titanium came from China, of course. And
they're the ones who folded up the paperwork. Heaven forbid
we'd mentioned that. And titanium we used to always get
in for aircraft generally speaking was from Russia, which
we've boycotted we can't take their stuff anymore. So let's
take the fake stuff from China seems to be more the story to
me. Yeah,
Adam Curry: no, that's not what I that's all I had was that part
of the story. They did not mention that and that was it
sounded like NBC, or ABC. The news over here is pretty much
really only two things. foosball, sports ball because
the UEFA Cup is on and everyone's I don't have anyone
that yours listening to the show because Holland was playing
earlier and thinks Slovenia is playing and oh boy,
John C Dvorak: oh, I don't want to miss that Oh, football.
Adam Curry: And then the g7 a lot of reporting on the g7. The
hotel seems to have 8000 channels of news now, which is
kind of different. You get France 24 and five languages
including Well, French, obviously. But they also seem to
do a German version, which I'd never seen before. France 24
German version, something's going on an invasion. And the
news was, except for one report was all pretty much the same.
This is the BBC
Unknown: at the g7 summit in Italy, the official agenda was
dominated by migration and China's trade policies. But
there's been much talk about a speech by President Putin that
he called an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine if certain conditions
were met. They were that Ukraine will give up four regions in the
East partially occupied by Russia now and abandon ambitions
to join NATO. Western leaders dismissed the offer as a demand
for Ukraine to capitulate with key of calling the proposals
offensive to common sense. So
Adam Curry: that's pretty much what that's yes.
John C Dvorak: We got that story today. It was Jake Sullivan came
out so this is nuts. Who would agree to such a crazy thing.
Let's kill more Ukrainians.
Adam Curry: It's so weird because most of the reports I
have us stateside, they talk about so Lenski and 10 year deal
and money. And they just say you know Russia wasn't invited today
Unknown: here in Italy. The President also meeting with g7
leaders trying to send a strong message to Russia's President
Putin signing a 10 year security agreement committing the US to
help train and equip Ukraine's military. And we have signed
this strongest agreement within us since our independence, the
g7 leaders today also agreeing to use interest from Russian
assets to lend Ukraine $50 billion as the US expands
sanctions against banks in countries such as China that do
business with Russia, the sanctions have so far done
little to stop Putin,
he cannot divide us. And we will be with Ukraine until they
prevail in this war.
President Solinsky Chinese President Xi told him by phone
that he wouldn't sell weapons to Russia, though President Biden
is skeptical.
China is not supplying weapons, but the ability to produce those
weapons and the technology available to do it.
Adam Curry: So that was that was kind of the news over here was
the although it's not really in the report. It was kind of like
well, you know, if Russia I mean, China, if you still want
to play with the big boys, you know, you don't want to get
sanctioned or anything like we did. Vladimir,
Unknown: the g7 briefly became the group of 25 Oh, Italy
invited 18 heads of state and international organizations to
join the bloc on day two of the Leaders Summit.
We will never accept the narrative that wants the West
against the rest.
Turkey's president Reggie of Thai Buddha one was among the
gathering, joining a lengthy three and a half hour long
session on artificial intelligence, energy and Africa
Mediterranean issues. On the sidelines, he held bilateral
talks with the leaders of the United Arab Emirates and Brazil.
For the first time a pontiff addressed a g7 summit, Pope
Francis was invited as a special guest speaker discussing the
ethical challenges of artificial intelligence.
We will condemn humanity to a hopeless future if we took away
people's ability to make decisions about themselves and
their lives by condemning them to depend on the choices of
machines. g7
leaders also discussed irregular migration and how to tackle its
root causes.
illegal migration is now a global emergency. More people
are moving across borders than at any time in our history. We
cannot stand by and watch this human tragedy unfold.
After a packed two days schedule. The Summit has wrapped
up with the adoption of the leaders joint communique. It
contained some strong language directed at China with g7
leaders vowing to tackle what they called China's unfair
business practices. I thought
Adam Curry: that was a little more interesting than just
Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine Russia the Pope was there Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I have a three by three Oh, hold on.
Adam Curry: We had some technical problems so I'm not as
on the ball as I should be. Well, do you uh Do you know John
Unknown: experiment by JC do it oh no after the bearings Don't
worry from ABC
Adam Curry: three All right everybody let's get it's been a
while it's been a hot minutes and we'll see how to three by
three.
John C Dvorak: Well let's start with Selena wind is all about
Pope Wang on NBC ABC
Unknown: tonight President Biden wrapping up the g7 summit with
world leaders sharing a tender moment with Pope Francis in
Italy. leader meeting one on one with the pontiff gifting him a
decorative tray with an image of the capitol rotunda
at the Vatican. But
two leaders discussing the urgent need for a ceasefire in
Gaza and the war in Ukraine party with a handshake Pope
Francis telling the President Francis the First pontiff ever
to address the g7 delivering a warning about artificial
intelligence, urging the leaders to put more guardrails in place
guardrails, saying, quote, we would condemn humanity to a
future without hope, by dooming them to depend on the choices of
machines. An earlier a later moment at the Vatican, Pope
Francis meeting with comedians like Chris Rock, Stephen
Colbert, and Whoopi Goldberg saying, in the midst of so much
gloomy news, you have the power to spread serenity and smiles.
And wit, the g7 leaders here are backing the ceasefire deal that
President Biden had laid out. They say that the number of
civilian casualties in Gaza is unacceptable. And they're urging
Israel not to launch a full scale invasion into Rafah.
Adam Curry: So who put together the guest list for the
comedian's?
John C Dvorak: You're asking the wrong guy Whoopi Goldberg,
Adam Curry: Jimmy Kimmel. I mean, Chris Rock, Okay, how
about to ask any but like real comedians? How about Dave Dave
Smith comedian Dave Smith. They should have put him on the list
and Joe Rogan could put them on the list and No, no,
John C Dvorak: there's Rory wrong party wrong party okay.
Even though Rogen is a Democrat, I'm sure but he has not he
hasn't followed a party line to stream but oops oh
Adam Curry: he's no good. Goldberg when's the last time
she did stand up?
John C Dvorak: She hasn't done stand up for 40 years Yeah,
exactly. I saw actually saw her do stand up ruling when she was
still doing stand up and she wasn't that good.
Adam Curry: You see all right.
John C Dvorak: She did the kind of stand up it was a I've seen
this before where you kind of make up something and then riff
on it on something you made up like say for example, Hey, you
know when you get on an airline and and it's funny that all the
seats are plaid. It's just the weirdest thing. Every seats
plaid, what are these guys? Are they a bunch of loggers?
Adam Curry: That's 1980s Like Paul Provenza level comedy.
John C Dvorak: It's like, well, first of all, there's no plaid
seats that I remember. And then to riff on something that
doesn't exist, which is what she her bid was, oh, and she did it
with all kinds of observational humor, which was not
observational at all was made. It
Adam Curry: was lies. There are lies
John C Dvorak: classic. Onward with NBC.
Unknown: Tonight President Biden wrapping up the g7 summit in
Italy after a private meeting with Pope Francis. The
President, a devout Catholic greeted the pontiff along with
other g7 leaders, the pope urging them to establish
guardrails for AI guardrails, FTP, totally artificial
intelligence. It's a fascinating tool and also a terrifying one.
He says the pope using his pulpit in non traditional ways
hosting a gathering of more than 100 comedians and actors at the
Vatican, including Balan Whoopi Goldberg and Chris Rock among
others, telling them in the midst of so much gloomy news,
you have the power to spread peace and smile. Oh
Adam Curry: no, we're lost. I'm gonna count on those guys to
sense peace and smiles.
John C Dvorak: Whoo. If they said there's 100 actors and
comedians, why did they name the exact same three words clearly
be seen named?
Adam Curry: Where's Clooney? Clooney should have been there.
If there were actors with JLo Where's Beyonce? I'm not used to
this
John C Dvorak: meeting questions that I can't answer um, I'm just
either way Did you see the video of Biden going up to the Pope
and then banging his head against him
Adam Curry: the pope have to adjust his cap.
John C Dvorak: With that little little focus in a wheelchair
something
Adam Curry: on the top of his head that
John C Dvorak: little vein goes yeah, this a pope hat. It's
definitely he banged him in the forehead and he didn't he kept
his head against his his start chatting with him now and was
very bizarre was on Tik Tok. The news media wouldn't cover
anything like that. To get good at tick tock
Adam Curry: here on infinite loop was the D Day video of
Biden wandering off when those parachuters Hannah the thing
that disappointed me and she kind of showed me her color is
what was Georgia Maloney doing going and saving him? Oh, no,
no,
John C Dvorak: he likes it. am I've seen this before Maloney.
There's also another video going around with Maloney giving the
evil eye the sting, to Murcia McCrone I saw that one, but But
when she runs into Binus, like your granddad or something,
she's She seems very protective.
Adam Curry: Oh, and then everyone immediately everyone's
in on it. So she she turns him around. Oh, Mr. President, look
over here. And everyone then immediately shuffles over to
stand behind Biden. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, we're looking from
this vantage point. That's right, Mr. President. It was it
was pathetic.
John C Dvorak: It was pretty bad. Yeah. And where was our
final clip was just CBS and Nancy Cordis
Unknown: meeting of the minds at the g7 summit, where Pope
Francis, who arrived by helicopter this morning shared
his concerns about artificial intelligence, he didn't get a
chance to challenge the pontiff urged the world leaders gathered
here to establish stronger global guardrails for the
development of AI and to ban so called killer robots altogether,
the autonomous weapons systems can choose their targets using
sensors with no human guidance at all. We'll be showing you the
data. We need to ensure proper human control over the choices
made by AI programs. He warned. Human Dignity itself depends on
it. The Pope was an early advocate for Ethics in AI and AI
generated deep fake of him and a white puffer coat went viral
last year. But that's just one example of what experts say are
the potentially troubling implications. Oh, democracy. Oh,
Adam Curry: the pope in a puffer coat is troubling for democracy.
Biden issued
Unknown: an executive order last year requiring domestic AI
developers to share their safety test results with the US
government. The Pope's stress today that human emotions can
never truly be replicated by a computer and as if to prove that
point. He posted this photo from his meeting yesterday with more
than 100 comics, and comedians. There you see Stephen Colbert,
Chris Rock, Jimmy Fallon, he told them that they unite people
because laughter is contagious. Yeah,
Adam Curry: he should have said it is connection is protection.
That would have been funny, but no, I don't want to wander too
far from from the other topics. We just want to switch back to
the g7 Ukraine for a moment.
John C Dvorak: I want to before we do that, I want to comment on
that clip. Sure. What kind of safety tests need to be shared?
And what is the safety test when it comes to AI?
Adam Curry: Well, the safety test I'm asking you I'm gonna
tell you the safety test is that people aren't confused when you
use the new what's the what's the new version of the image
software that came out when you say woman laying down the chose
these contorted three three armed ladies upside down all
squashed together? Have you seen this? Yeah, it's what's the not
Dali but what's the other? What's the other big image?
Journeys one? Oh, it's one troll room helped me out. It's like
all everyone's talking about it's it's it's the whole thing
is a mess.
John C Dvorak: It was talking about Star Wars.
Adam Curry: Everybody everybody's talking about if
there's a will there's entire Reddit of people. People posting
these images. This whole thing just doesn't work. And it's like
version. Yeah. But what's.
John C Dvorak: How is that unsafe?
Adam Curry: That's what I mean. There's nothing unsafe. It just
doesn't work. So oh, it's unsafe. It's in the lab. The
stuff in the lab is what's unsafe? Oh, no, I'm sorry. It's
not Mira Marathi. Since you took us there. The Chief Technology
Officer of open AI. What do you think the quote? What are the
qualifications of someone who was a chief technology officer?
What are the things you kind of need to know? Do
John C Dvorak: you have to have owned an apple to pay as you go?
So
Adam Curry: here's her whole career. She won a scholarship
and attended Pearson, United World College of the Pacific and
Canada. Graduated 2005. Then she pursued a dual degree in the
United States, bachelor of arts and mathematics from Colby. And
then she went
John C Dvorak: James Colby, the CIA guy. No.
Adam Curry: And then she has her first job was, I think it was
Tesla. So she was in Tesla. And then she goes to open AI. So
like, I don't know if she's a coder, might be by buses. I'm
John C Dvorak: like it.
Adam Curry: So here's what she said recently about the immune
all the dangerous stuff that they have in the lab
Unknown: inside the labs. We have this capable models and
have, you know they're not that far ahead from what the public
has access to, for free? Well
Adam Curry: hold on a second. If it's if it's not that far ahead,
and how can it be so much more dangerous? I haven't seen
anything frightening from what's free.
Unknown: And that's a completely different trajectory for
bringing technology into the world that
we're in. Sure.
John C Dvorak: What's his accent? She's got a Canadian.
Adam Curry: He's Albanian. Now, okay.
Unknown: Oh, Albania, Albania. And yes, we've
seen historically. And it's a great opportunity because it
brings people along it gives them intuitive sense for the
capabilities and risks, and allows people to prepare for the
advent of this world, bringing advanced AI into the world.
Adam Curry: I think I think she's actually reading from chit
chat GBT.
Unknown: And obviously the opportunity. So
John C Dvorak: she's saying nothing. What is she saying is
opportunity and risk and blah, blah, blah, you're actually
using words out,
Adam Curry: you're using Tina's favorite word, word salad.
Exactly. It's all word salad, which is they probably train the
model based on her.
Unknown: And obviously, the opportunities are huge. Now it's
normal, that which you are, we talk a lot about the risks,
because they're so important. But also, we wouldn't do this if
we didn't believe that the opportunities here are huge,
Adam Curry: blah, blah, blah. There's nothing huge. She said
that. That's what you do as a as Chief Technology Officer, you
use blah. Alright, so now,
John C Dvorak: so she's the CTO. Was CTO is generally speaking
are people that can code. Yeah. Or at least know something other
than word salads. Yeah.
Adam Curry: No cheese that
John C Dvorak: does something fishy
Adam Curry: about this one? No, the whole, the whole operation
is fishy. The whole all you have to sign this, this NDA forever.
And you can never ever talk about how lame it is. That's all
it is. Oh, we'll give you all this money. Just don't tell
anybody the truth. It doesn't work. I mean, it works for
coding. Every whenever I say doesn't work I give you. I use
GitHub co pilot it rocks. Okay. Sure.
John C Dvorak: I'm sure Adam crappies adam@curry.com. That's
the address. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I mean, it does. I'm sure it works great for him.
They
John C Dvorak: basically, actually, you're talking to the
real coders, and we've gotten notes and you know it now, you
know, we both know it. It doesn't work, right. It just
works. It works. It works. Yeah. It's useful. Yeah. You don't
need to fill in the gaps to put your crap code out for you to
actually run the program. Now,
Adam Curry: here's what's interesting, Martin. He's from
Denmark, and he's in the podcasting 2.0 group. And he he
used to be a full time coder at his day job. And now he's
management, probably middle manager, but he's management.
And he says, It's really amazing. Because when I get
RFPs, which is usually a PDF, I just run it into Chad GPT. And
it fills in the RFP, and then he can adjust things later. And he
says, It's really weird, because he's pretty sure the RFPs are
also generated by a chat GPT type AI. So we really have
Unknown: to use a computer. Yes.
Adam Curry: Yes. Which I think really, ultimately, the savings,
we're going to find out the savings is you can get rid of
all middle management. Just don't need any of that. That may
be where the savings is. And that may be why people are
afraid. Because if there's anything, certainly in corporate
life, but also academia, middle management is fat. We can clean
up a lot of that.
John C Dvorak: I just thought oh, that's it. That's actually
that is worth the price of the show.
Adam Curry: All right. Good night, everybody.
Unknown: Thanks for coming along.
Adam Curry: See you later. Back to Russia Ukraine. So I did read
a transcript and I actually tried to pull a clip of Putin
explaining his peace deal which is pretty much hey let's let's
stop fighting and we'll keep we'll keep the port and we'll
keep keep Odessa you know with the Odessa people they want it
to be with us we did a vote. But we want this Don Bosco show
Crimea that Crimea. I'm sorry. We want we want the Donbass
region is an essence what'd he say? And why? Well, we have a
boots on the ground boots on the ground comes to us from sparkles
of chaos, who says I did some research and sent a couple of I
don't know if it's a he or she sent some pages that I have read
on Ukraine mining geology in the war zones. I used to work as a
geoscientist. So I put on my Pebble pin Pat and and took a
look. Do we have the best producers in the world or what?
This is this is part of why they no agenda shows is the best
podcast in the universe. In the industry for projects the first
place I would look for any international domestic related
papers on job geology would be the SPE Society of Petroleum
Engineers, USGS or state Geological Survey international
use the SP great resource to find papers and information. And
below is an executive summary from the last document I found
from the 2023 report made for investment opportunities in
exploration and production made by the Ukraine Geological
Society, what are the chances is the executive summary to begin
the document list out the critical raw materials such as
lithium titanium, zirconium, nickel, cobalt, Chrome, Mo molar
molybdenum denim, what is molybdenum? molybdenum? What is
moleben? molybdenum is a it's like an amygdala.
John C Dvorak: I can't say it again. molybdenum,
Adam Curry: molybdenum. molybdenum. Yes. No, you don't
know what it is. It's one
John C Dvorak: of the rare earths that people use for
different alloys. It's an alloy product as far as I know,
Adam Curry: beryllium. Got that nailed it 10, top, tantalum,
tantalum, yeah, tantalum niobium, niobium, niobium, gold,
lead, zinc, graphite, and hydrocarbons. And so the
document is broken into areas fields and license blocks with
regard to each mineral found in that area with diagrams and
short descriptions. There's also some offshore so we see in the
southern Warzone areas who you can find rare earth minerals
gold, lead and zinc, which are ores and poly metallic deposits
in about seven fields. There's also offshore black, she's black
sea shelf hydrocarbon deposits, three license areas that contain
lithium, tantalum, niobium, rubidium, mica, rubidium,
cesium, tin and beryllium. Each of these areas have block named
etc. This is what it's about. Now we understand whether Putin
actually believes that this is a Russian region or not. This is
the fight. This is it that they already divvied up the the
breadbasket to all the multinationals, those are all
licensed out the wheat. And now it's about the rare earth
minerals and and there seems to be some gas and some other
hydrocarbon goodies in there as well. No wonder we're fighting.
No wonder.
John C Dvorak: Yes, I think this is the untold part of the story.
And we don't, it's all democracy. Well, it's for
democracy. We're saving Europe, we're saving Europe. We're
saving Europe. Russia is getting a hold of the tantalum boats and
whatever else they need, which are going to end the Russians
are unlike the Chinese. I always like to point this story out,
which is that when the Chinese stole the silkworms, this is,
you know, hundreds and hundreds of years ago when the Japan had
a monopoly on silk in the world. And because they had
domesticated silkworms, and they were making silk and the Chinese
wanted to make silk. So they somehow confiscated through
industrial espionage. They stole some silk worms and started
breeding them and they started making silk and to the point
where they're making so much silk that they overwhelmed the
Japanese market and they became the monopoly. But unlike the
Japanese, and I've seen this before, and I tried to I don't
know how I can express it because because it's so
inculcated into Chinese culture of best price. They never turn
into gougers. Somebody has to show me an example of where they
do that. They bring it out at a super low price, and they get a
monopoly and they never raised the price. They don't get
Adam Curry: it. They're doing something wrong.
John C Dvorak: That's not the way the Russians are. Well,
Adam Curry: whatever the case is, you would say? We're
definitely we're definitely bringing democracy and peace to
Europe, specifically to Germany,
Unknown: NATO Defence Ministers have agreed that the alliance
will take more of a role in coordinating military aid to
Ukraine, the decision? When
Adam Curry: did you know we've noticed this a couple of times?
When did it become Ukraine?
John C Dvorak: Policy was Ukraine. Actually, you've
noticed that more and make it
Adam Curry: used to be Ukraine? Yeah. And then it knows Ukraine,
Ukraine, me Ukraine, our crane, whose crane is it
Unknown: the aid to Ukraine. The decision follows a meeting of
the Transatlantic Alliance at NATO headquarters in Brussels.
pledges for bilateral assistance will continue to be organized
through a US led group of some 50 countries. NATO will now take
over some of the logistics for delay. During that support and
training, NATO head Jens Stoltenberg says the mission
will be headquartered at a US military base in Germany, and
involve almost 700 staff. These
efforts do not make NATO a party to the conflict. Our support to
crane to pole it's right to self defense.
Adam Curry: Oh, we're not really doing anything. We're just doing
it. In Germany. Oh, man, How stupid are these people?
Germans, Germans, you've got to stop this. This is nuts. You do
not want that. You don't want to know being it's do study some
history again for trouble study some history. People
John C Dvorak: don't do that anymore. It's gone. We were
talking about gender history. So this yes,
Adam Curry: it's Yes. His Gender Studies is how it's now. The
we're talking about the 50 billion disagree. This was also
a topic of discussion that $50 billion that that we're going to
give to Ukraine, which somehow comes from the 300 billion
locked up in the Federal Reserve's SWIFT system and Euro
clear that is Russian money, you know, the theft we've been
talking about? And you kind of want to know how that worked. If
the money was locked up, and how the how can you still get
interest on it? If it's
John C Dvorak: frozen assets, which is the term they keep
using images frozen? How is it? How is it making money?
Adam Curry: I have? I have an answer. Good from Jim Rickards.
And he would kind of know, this
Unknown: is what's called a structured product, the way that
where they're stealing the assets is a structured product.
If you go back to 2008, you said, Hey, you got all these
garbage mortgage mortgages out there? How could you turn them
into AAA securities? And well, she said, Hold my beer, I'll
show you how to do it. And they did. And course it all
collapsed. The rating agencies were here's how it works. So
let's just take the Russian assets above my first question
$50 billion dollar loan to Ukraine, who is the lender? The
lender is the United States of America, which basically you me,
and all the all the posse and all the viewers and the American
taxpayers are lending the money. So the United States government
is the lender of $50 billion to Ukraine, what now you take the
Russian assets $300 billion dollars, the interest should be
about four and a half percent. And I say that because they've
been frozen for over over two years. So when a two year
security matures, the church should just send you the money.
That's and, and the Treasury is basically stealing that. So they
reinvest it, they go buy another security. So the interest on
that portfolio should be about four and a half percent that's
estimated, but I'm sure it's pretty close. So the 300 billion
is going to throw off 13 point 5 billion a year in interest at
four and a half percent. And let's just assume five years, I
think it doesn't matter. That's a reasonable estimate. That's
$67.5 billion of interest over five years. Now let's look at
the Russian assets as look at the loan $50 billion loan us as
the lender, so I'm assuming the same four and a half percent,
that's the rate on five year, approximately five year US
Treasury notice that that the interest on that is two and a
quarter billion per year, times five years is 11 and a quarter
billion, and you have to pay back the 50 billion of
principal, so you're gonna need 61 and a quarter billion dollars
at the end of five years to pay back the principal and the
interest on the loan. So okay, we're gonna steal 67 billion
approximately, from the Russian interest. And that's enough to
pay for the 61.2 5 billion on the loan. So basically, the loan
is going to be made, it's going to accrue interest, it's gonna
get repaid, it's gonna get repaid from the Russian assets.
But the Russian assets happen to be six times larger than the
loan, at least for now. And it will produce enough interest to
pay off this loan. So the g7 they're gonna say, well, we're
not stealing the Russian assets. We're just taking the interest.
And then the loans separate. This is why I say it's a
structured product one separate and we'll use the interest to
pay off the loan less by the Ukraine was the word no worries,
we'll just hit hit a brush corroboration which is
delusional, but that's the way they think. So
Adam Curry: we're kind of stealing it from us. You know,
what
John C Dvorak: was the audience with that one?
Adam Curry: No, I don't think so. I think a lot of people got
that. The whole the whole thing is crooked.
Unknown: It's why it's gambling.
Adam Curry: But it's our money. I mean, I mean, they're in
essence they're printing it
John C Dvorak: right? Now actually selling the books. It's
real money up well, yeah,
Adam Curry: they make it up right.
John C Dvorak: Russians money and then we're kind of stealing
the money that loaning it to Ukraine. Getting money back.
We're probably probably making out in the deal. Probably what
am I what am I thinking we're making out on?
Adam Curry: I don't know if it's You and I, John someone's making
out on the deal we're not making anything
John C Dvorak: on the deal that's for sure. And the guys
who are losing their assets or their you or the other Ukrainian
soldiers and women and men are all getting killed chopped up
now to buy the machine so it was somebody he gets a beryllium
Adam Curry: is that the most important one? I kind of liked
the molybdenum molybdenum. Yeah, that's exactly right. That's the
one I like the molybdenum is the one I'm going for it Ba ba ba ba
scat. Is there any news? Because I did get a a thing from Turkish
Radio Television. Is there any news about the expiration of our
deal with Saudi Arabia? Is that being discussed anywhere?
John C Dvorak: None zip it just was mentioned. We haven't said
anything about I think it's I don't believe that the deals is
fully in play. Well, I think it's a bluff or some sort Well,
listen to
Unknown: this is the reign of the US dollar and global trade
under an existential threat. This may well be the case
because a critical decade's long deal between Saudi Arabia and
the US known as the petro dollar deal expired on June 8. The deal
was originally signed on June 8 1974. It's through it the US
agreed to buy oil from Saudi Arabia and exchange for military
aid and equipment while the Saudis would invest their petro
dollar revenue back into the US economy. In other words, Petro
dollars or US dollars in exchange for crude oil exports.
The expiry of a deal now allow Saudi Arabia to send us oil in
multiple different currencies, such as the Chinese renminbi,
and Yuan, the euro and the British pound as well as crypto
currencies like Bitcoin. vital to the US as global economic
influence, the expiry of a collapse of the deal is expected
to impact the US dollar value and its dominance in global
trade. As experts now also particular Saudi Arabia is
intending to end this association with USD following
his entry into bricks, which seeks to prioritize trade in
local currencies, with Russia and Saudi Arabia now vying to
move away from trading and USD will the global dominance of the
dollar, which is still the most dominant currency in the world
be coming to an end.
Adam Curry: So I kind of understand what they're saying
the deal, I guess it was a 50 year deal. It just ended. And
they have to do it. And they haven't really they could redo
it. But do you see and they're there with the Pope. And
probably here's
John C Dvorak: the problem was mentioned very early in that
report. The problem for Saudi Arabia is the whole thing was
contingent on them buying our armaments, and they're loaded to
the gills with our gear. Yeah. And they can't all of a sudden,
just stiff us and expect that gear to get repaired ever again,
or to have us protect them. Yeah, or have us protect him. So
that's not going I said, No, this is an overly drip
dramatized problem that may go away. In due course, she wants
so it's like it gets out of us so positive.
Adam Curry: Not only is the deal going to be re upped but Biden's
not going to win. You're very positive. You're the guy. I'm
John C Dvorak: not that positive about Biden not winning. No, I
have a series of clips. Yes.
Adam Curry: You know, we've we've Robert Epstein was in play
during the the 2020 election as well.
John C Dvorak: Yes, in fact, I have all those clips. But I
should mention that Robert Epstein kind of dropped off the
radar. His wife
Adam Curry: got killed in a horrible accident. His
John C Dvorak: wife got killed. Yeah. Even though he thought he
was, you know, targeted, and the wife got killed a miserable car
wreck of some sort. Same thing happened to Joe Biden's first
wife. So you don't know what's going on there. But that was
Adam Curry: Robert, keep your eye on Jill. And that's what you
want to do. So
John C Dvorak: I have a lot of different not that long. A
couple of one of them is. But this Robert Epstein. Robert
Epstein is what it's actually he's pretty well introduced
here. He's the guy who who've, who uses a technique to spy on
Google, of having edits explained in these clips to have
a whole bunch of people and not net. They're not anonymous.
They're real people that Google has been tracking. And he also
says that everyone who's been on Google For 20 years will have 3
million pages of data on them in a database someplace. Every
every person. Yeah, everyone. If you've been on Google for 20
years, you'll have 3 million pages of documentation. Done a
four size or legal letter is probably a four. Because Google
you know, they're they're cosmopolitan as they are Cosmo.
Let's start with Robert Epstein. One
Unknown: that would be Dr. Rob Bert Epstein, who is the head of
the American Institute for Behavioral Research and
Technology, where
Adam Curry: who's who did this interview?
John C Dvorak: This came from? Epstein. Yes.
Adam Curry: Right. You don't want to say Epstein you want to
say Epstein Epstein?
John C Dvorak: Yes. This came from the Michael Knowles podcast
called Pure talk, podcast, a podcast on YouTube, I did send
you a link to it. So it could be in the show notes.
Adam Curry: It is in the show notes.
Unknown: Also the former editor in chief of Psychology Today,
and holds a PhD from Harvard. But despite that, actually has
had a great career and has aroused the hire of many, many
powerful people, including the biggest corporation ever.
Google. Dr. Epstein, thank you for being here. I want to get to
so much I actually want to get to some of your other areas of
research, because you are not just a guy who gives testimony
and goes on interviews and talks about big tech. You are a very
serious person with a very lengthy career, and all sorts of
credentials and publications. I do want to begin though you do
with this Google elections question How bad is it's
much worse than you think. So however bad you think it is,
it's much worse. So I can just give you two numbers. And maybe
that will summarize it for you. Google alone in this year's
presidential election. If we don't do some extraordinary
things to stop them, which might be impossible. Google alone will
be able to shift between six point 4,000,025 point 5 million
votes in the presidential election. Generally speaking,
with no one having the slightest idea that they've been
manipulated. And generally speaking, without leaving a
paper trail for authorities to trace, I think
Adam Curry: he had similar numbers. The you know, in the
2020 election, I think he had similar type numbers of what
Google could shift.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he might have He says his worse now than
it was before.
Adam Curry: So well, why is the question
John C Dvorak: there? Democrats, you saw Sergey Brin in tears
when Trump? No, I know
Adam Curry: that. But what what is the mechanism? What are they
doing? Oh, yeah, he tries to, he
John C Dvorak: tries to bring some of it out. The mechanism
is? Well, I mean, I wrote a column with my last substack
column shows you some evidence of the mechanism is like, if you
do a search on Donald Trump donations, you'll, you won't get
the Donald Trump donation site. But if you put Joe Biden
donations that comes right at the top, okay, that's one that's
manipulation of the way the information is presented some
subtle manipulation. But as you're here, more and more of
what he has to say, you can see, yes, it adds up. It's like real
money at the end of the day, you're is that
Unknown: because of the number of Democrats and Republicans
using it? Or is that because of who's getting the notifications?
Now?
We're talking about proportions here. I'm saying that
proportionally speaking, I'm saying that Democrats are
getting those reminders at two and a half times the rate that
results?
Adam Curry: Yes, clip two. Okay. Robert Epstein to right.
Unknown: Now that's happening. That's a very short one.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was the discus. Um, it's
interesting, though, that well, that was an exponent explanatory
except for the fact that the Google sends out a reminder to
register to vote at a rate two and a half times greater to
Democrats than they do to Republicans. And they determine
who if you're Republican or Democrat, by your searches. And
by your by your email, or what you use when you use Google,
everyone uses Google email, I think 80% of our audience does.
And so if you're like, 80% of the audience, you're getting the
no agenda newsletter, for example, you're probably not a
Democrat. And so you get categorized such, probably,
Adam Curry: from time to time, don't receive the no agenda
newsletter for above worries, yes,
John C Dvorak: yes, that happens. A lot has happened. And
particularly when I was critical of Google and one of the
newsletters that was getting go to three, it,
Unknown: it almost makes me want to throw my hands in the air and
say, this corporation is so powerful, they control
everything. I'm not a major research psychologist, so I
don't look into that. But the moment you start to look into
these things, you say, Oh, well, look, the situation is even
worse than you thought it was. Just
to drive this point home. If Google is doing something like
that, which they are because we're measuring it right. And
then at some point, they're going to send out partisan
mailing your ballot reminders and at some point, they're going
to send out partisan go vote reminders, and they're also
stacking the deck in their search results. So the search
results are highly biased, I can actually send your audience to a
web page. And actually, you can actually see what the bias is
right now. And on Google search results, how does one calculate
how does one we will we right now are collecting data with
their permission, through the computers of more than 14,000
registered voters in all 50 states politically balanced? And
all that information coming into the computers of real people we
are aggregating in real time and analyzing in real time regarding
bias while we're looking at the web pages that Google is sending
people to. And we're using three different organizations, ratings
of political bias, taking the mean, and then calculating a
mean for each search position in Google search results. So I hope
I'm not being too detailed here. But no, no, the point is, we can
measure very precisely whether there is bias in Google search
results. And there's extraordinary bias in Google
search results sufficient to shift millions of votes in this
year's election.
Adam Curry: I remember how he does this, because he said, It's
all ephemeral. So He equips like hundreds of people, I think,
with a tracking device, 14,000 focac, 14,000. And that's how
he's able to track the the bias that Google puts in, that he saw
he throws out that number 4 million to 20 million. Do you
really, I mean, does he have any data to back up that that will
serve? He
John C Dvorak: does a statistical analysis of what
he's seeing with the 14,000 people? 7000 Republicans, 7000
Democrats, and he extrapolates and he does it in a way that is
that is statistically sound. Okay. So that's where he's doing
that. And he has other details in terms of how many people you
because you just extrapolate if you have, you know, he's only
looking at 14,000 computers, but like he says in, I think the
next clip, 500 million people are hitting Google daily, you
Adam Curry: know, but not only in the United States, really,
John C Dvorak: in the United States. All looked at number
three, you're gonna say, Who's that worldwide? board after
dinner table?
Adam Curry: They're all looking for AOC porn videos. But yeah,
I'm sure I'm sure.
Unknown: Democrat, what we have learned to do is to monitor them
the way they monitor us. We're surveilling them. We're
collecting data that they are sending to real people. And by
the way, that's the only way to see what they're really doing.
You have to look over the shoulders of real people.
Because all the content is personalized. You can't use an
anonymized computer as the economist did. And a study, as
some folks at Stanford University did in this study.
You can't use an anonymized computer. Because Google sees
that as a bot. They see it as a non person, they know it's not a
real person, because they don't have that huge pile of
information. There's no real person would be anonymous, all
content is personalized, right. So if they're sending content to
a non person, guess what? It's unbiased, right? So people have
conducted silly studies saying Google is not biased against
conservatives or anyone else. Because look, we did this study
with an anonymized computer. And we're getting back clean, clean,
clean data. Yes, that's right. That's true. Back, I can
demonstrate it for you. That's actually true. But who cares?
That's not what the data we're getting. The data we're getting
is personalized. So we are looking over the shoulders of a
very large number of registered voters. And they're real people
and Google, Google cannot identify them. And that's how
you see what they're sending. Okay.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he says Google can't identify me means
Google can identify them as stooges.
Unknown: I understand. All right. Okay, let's go to clip
five,
John C Dvorak: I think we have been monitored. This is why
their way this is a good clip, go as opposed to those first for
those of those who are good, too. But this is like really
good. This is the money shot people. We have been
Unknown: monitoring, building bigger and bigger monitoring
systems since 2016. And 2020, we had a pretty big system in place
for the first time. So we actually captured 1.5 million
ephemeral experiences. That's what Google calls them. On
Google and other platforms, we were very, very rapidly
analyzing our data. We were seeing very extreme political
bias on Google, but not on Bing or Yahoo. And that's important
for comparison purposes. And this time around, I thought,
we're not going to wait till after the election, so I didn't
want to I was reluctant to ever to reveal this what we what we
knew before the election, because I was afraid Donald
Trump might not think that much of I mean, I'm amazed by him.
Yes, but I don't think much of him, but I was afraid he would
take our data run to the Supreme Court and shut down the country.
But we had found such incriminate Eating data in 2020.
That few days before the election, I contacted a reporter
I knew at the New York Post, I said here, I'm going to send you
a bunch of stuff. Look at it. I said, You just had a front cover
story on the Hunter Biden laptop, I said, this will be
your next front cover story. This is about large scale
rigging of the current election. She was tremendously dubious.
And then she looked at all the stuff I sent her and she got the
assignment, she wrote up the piece, she called me up. This is
Friday, before the Tuesday election, she read me parts of
the piece, this was gonna be the front cover. It was fabulous.
Because it was about rigging, but with real data, right,
showing real data.
Adam Curry: Alright, hold on a sec. So what Google is doing
here may spur on people to register to vote or to send in
their vote. It seems to me like it's not going to sway anyone
from one side to the to the other. I don't know about the
independence and how important that is. thing people may have
kind of made up their mind. So what he's saying here is stupid
journalists. They're influenced by it. And the media portion is
influenced by it. But do you think at this point that that
makes any difference for how people are going to vote? Will
it sway anyone one way or the other is is just purely about
the the turnout.
John C Dvorak: It has a lot to do with the turnout, but it but
like he says if your rigging the results, in other words, if you
if you are on the fence and you're looking for something
that is like, anti Biden material, and they won't give it
to you, alright, that's going to sway Okay, so many people see
the Biden roaming around clip, you know? Yeah. Well, let's
continue this, and then you can discuss at the end, but this is
the kicker to what he just said is the next clip,
Unknown: then her editor as a matter of course, this is not
nothing unusual, called Google for comment. She called me up
later that day, and she said, I am so mad. She didn't use that
word. She used another word, little saucy. And she said,
Well, New York journalists. So she said, your piece just got
killed. I said what I said, You're the New York Post, you
broke the hunter. She said, Yeah. But we get a lot of
traffic from Google, which I look up at that time, they were
getting about 45% of their traffic from Google. Now, if you
try to look that up, you can't even look that up anymore.
Google has made that information disappear. But the New York Post
it's true at that time was getting a lot of their traffic
from Google so they could not afford to run the story.
Adam Curry: Okay. Oh, that's a good point. So the New York Post
is a compromised piece of crap.
John C Dvorak: Everybody is not us, baby. No, it's because we
were starving to death. Here you go. So
Adam Curry: I can't believe it. It's so hard and we're starving,
John C Dvorak: is here the final kick and provided a way that the
thing was being as shown in the column I just did or did last
week for substack. Bing is way off to off track. Now they, if
you look at their Biden versus Trump searches, they put is a
promotion for Biden being even though maybe in 2010 2020, there
wasn't so much of this word being he says Yahoo. Yeah, but
now there's tons it is just Pro, the Bing site is so pro Biden is
ridiculous. So again,
Adam Curry: it may sway some Well, yes. I think all of
America at this point, see something's wrong with Joe
Biden, but I can see where independents are people who are
on the fence. How big is that group? Really.
John C Dvorak: It's about a third of the voters. Really,
Adam Curry: a third of voters is actually
John C Dvorak: 3535. And the nemorosa were independents.
Okay. All right. So here we go into final kicker of the kicker,
and
Adam Curry: the kicker of the kicker is football.
Unknown: So I sent it off to Ted Cruz. And on November 5, two
days after the election, Ted Cruz with two other senators
sent a very threatening letter to the CEO of Google. So there's
this right after the election saying, and and it goes on and
on about what Epstein has found. And how do you account for this?
You testified before Congress saying you don't interfere with
elections? And guess what happened on November 5 of 2020.
Wade crews got a car accident, Google, Google turned off all of
their manipulations. Now you're saying Wait, this is after the
election? Who cares? Because Georgia where we had more than
1000 We call them field agents. Yeah. So we were we were
collecting content Through the computers of more than 1000
registered voters all over Georgia, Georgia was gearing up
to have two Senate runoff election Leffler
and Purdue. I went I went down for those races. Well, on
November 5, Google shut off their partisan go vote
reminders. No one from that day forward until that election, no
one in Georgia. Gotta go vote reminder, nobody. They turned
off the bias in the search results, which I thought would
be impossible. How could you you just can't turn off bias. I have
since learned through documents from the company that were that
were taken out of the company. I've learned from a
whistleblower that in fact, they can turn bias on and off, like
flipping a light switch. That is a quote from Zack Vorhees.
Adam Curry: Who's Zack for he's
John C Dvorak: as the Google whistleblower? Oh, of course,
you haven't heard of him know. Me Google and get you on your
level get any more traffic from Google?
Adam Curry: Let me Google him. doesn't show up. I use
cognitions. And
John C Dvorak: show you Yeah, no, this is a corrupt situation.
completely out of control pond, and nobody cares. This is like,
Oh, whatever. You know, okay. Well, Biden, if he gets in
again, so what is he won't last that long and Kamla would be the
president. That's what everybody wants? Well be a break. Well,
Adam Curry: we're gonna go down with the I don't care who it is,
as long as it's first of all, let's just stop pretending that
it matters. Donald Trump is not going to save everybody, right?
daddio is not going to fix all your problems in your town, or
your city. That's got to come from the people. You know,
people got to get into the into the ring. I'm not going to
works. tripping out memes. I thought CNN did an interesting
job of solidifying the Donald Trump is going to destroy our
democracy.
John C Dvorak: Which now? I think Do you think they'd get
off that for no track? No doing it? Oh,
Adam Curry: it's a double down now to double down because there
is an even when you hear this piece from CNN, and this is this
British dude who, for somehow he covers Trump, for CNN, because I
know maybe he's not seen as offensive to Trump voters. And
he so he goes into a Trump rally. And of course, it's a man
on the street. So the Hello, easy to pick out the two weak
sisters of the bunch. But then it's it's intercut with an
interview with our favorite Anne Applebaum. So listen to
Unknown: this. One thing we've been hearing at Trump rallies
like this over the past few months is that America isn't
really a democracy.
America's not a democracy. That's
against not a democracy. Okay, democracy is actually not as
good as you think
it is. But for centuries, America has celebrated its
democracy. Democracy is worth dying for democracy remains the
definition of political legitimacy. But some Republicans
and pro Trump media are pushing the idea that America is not a
democracy.
United States of America is not a democracy. We are a
constitutional republic, United States of America is not a
democracy. If you don't want to be in a democracy. We are not a
democracy. We are a republic. Is America a democracy? America
is a democracy. It was founded as a democracy. I've heard a
lot of conspiracy theories. I hear a lot of things, conspiracy
theories out on the road. But theory, oh, wait to hear
Americans, people who would describe themselves as patriots,
who say that America is not a democracy. That stopped me in my
tracks.
You are hearing people say America is not a democracy,
because there are people around Trump who want them to be saying
that who've been planting that narrative. Is
America democracy.
I don't I think well not wearing
our republic.
What's the difference?
I feel like democracy. Through government. I don't see freedom
and democracy I see freedom. Honestly, the word democracy and
the word Republic have often been used interchangeably. There
isn't a meaningful difference between them. So much
of the warnings and criticism about Trump is that he is a
threat to democracy that he is anti democratic. Absolutely.
If they can convince people that we don't have a democracy, then
it's okay that Trump is attacking democracy because it
doesn't really matter. So
Adam Curry: the strongest part of that piece is of course
having Reagan and Bush Talk about our democracy. How do we
square that with saying we don't have a democracy?
John C Dvorak: Well, that was they were Reagan and Bush. Were
doing the same thing that the Democrats do, which is call
everything a democracy when it's a constitutional republic, which
is what it is. And it's not a conspiracy. That's what it is
what it is conspiracy theory, conspiracy theory, we don't even
do direct voting for the President, even though I think
they would love that. But we don't we have the Electoral
College in between as a buffer as a shim.
Adam Curry: Well, so So this, but this is kind of the
messaging and you know, so yeah, I'm sure Google will surface
this type of stuff. That Constitutional Republic is a
conspiracy theory. Look at Reagan. Great boy. Yeah. Well,
it was well done. And then of course, we also need to attack
flags, flags, as flags are so important. I mean, throughout
history, flags are a big deal. And who better to ask all
cultures? Yes. And who better to ask about flag gates. This is a
Supreme Court, Justice Alito, whose wife flew the upside the
American flag upside down international sign of distress,
and also raised the pine pine tree flag, which is the so
called appeal to heaven flag. And let's ask Mayor Pete,
because there's nothing better than a McKinsey graduate
McKinsey alum to ask about these important questions.
Unknown: There was a secret recording made at a meeting
where many Supreme Court justices and their spouses were
and Martha AnnaLena, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Samuel
Alito, was discussing how she feels about apparently a pride
flag that
says, Listen, I want a Sacred
Heart of Jesus flag, because I have to look across the lagoon
at the pride flag.
Adam Curry: Did you hear that? She says she wants a Sacred
Heart of Jesus flag. So I'll make sure you heard that because
it's I did not hear that. Yeah, that's what she say this is that
horrible undercover recording? From the woman who believes in
the mother of Gaia, from California Gaia woman, the guy
or woman? Yes, worshipping earth like any good pagan would that
was flown off
John C Dvorak: pagan pagans do.
Unknown: I want a Sacred Heart of Jesus flag, because I have to
look across the lagoon at the pride flag for the next month.
And he's like, Oh, please don't put up a flag. I said, I won't
do it. Because I'm deferring to you. But when you are free of
this nonsense, I'm putting it up. And I'm gonna send them a
message every day.
How does that make you feel knowing that the wife of a
Supreme Court justice, wants to send a message to people with a
pride flag?
Look, I'm often reminded that the most important thing in my
life, which is my marriage, and my family, and the two beautiful
children that my husband Chaston and I are raising that that
marriage only exists by the grace of a single vote on the
United States Supreme Court that expanded our rights and freedoms
back in 2015, and made it possible for Edie
Adam Curry: expanded his rights and freedoms. You see it, he has
expanded his rights and freedoms because he's so suppressed, that
Unknown: expanded our rights and freedoms back in 2015, and made
it possible for somebody like me to get married. And, you know,
Supreme Court justices have an unbelievable amount of power.
And, and by the nature in the structure, the Supreme Court,
there's no supervision over that power. They're entrusted with it
literally for as long as they live. And part of that trust is
we expect them to enter into those enormously consequential
decisions that that shape our everyday lives, with a sense of
fairness, I also hope that most Americans can understand the
difference between a flag that symbolizes you know, love and
acceptance and signals to people who have sometimes feared for
their safety that they're going to be okay. And insurrectionists
symbology
Adam Curry: No, there it is. There it is Trump
John C Dvorak: but they said something in there he says about
you know, I wish I could put remember what is exact phrase
was but it seems to me that for one thing, I think, the same
Democrats who are extolling the virtues of women and giving the
and empowering them to have a Leo's wife who's got nothing
she's not on the Supreme Court. I hate to mention this to you
though she's not on there doing anything. So what she got to do
it decisive with this
Adam Curry: price. Price? Yes.
John C Dvorak: It's just ridiculous. And then what is he
supposed to be told Shut up woman. Get into the kitchen I
mean, what what exactly are they? Are they angling for here?
They can have a mixed message?
Adam Curry: Well, I think the again, it's comes down to the
same thing. The whole point is to associate flags, American
flags. Faith flags to equate that with insurrectionists ie
Trump. That's the whole point. Yes,
John C Dvorak: that was a poorly made point. And I should just
mention something as an aside. So this weekend on catchy TV or
whatever it is one of the over the air channels. They've had a
24/7 marathon of laughing shows from 68. Goldie Hawn, he went on
to believe she was one of the many cast members. And they were
bitching about this. It was a very political show, you don't
realize that most of the issues were this are today's issues.
And this is from ninth this last show. I was watching the dad had
this thing in 1971 show. They were bitching about the Supreme
Court? No, of course, of course, literally. Because at the time
the Supreme Court was somewhat liberal. And this was the era of
bumper stickers that said, you know, impeach Earl Warren, who
was a Reuters Republican governor of California,
Republican governor of California, but he was a very
liberal, Supreme Court justice. And the right wing was going
nuts over zero Warren's impeach Earl Warren. And this was kind
of reflected in the
Adam Curry: print. But in those days, we had three television
channels and no YouTube. And and no, Google.
John C Dvorak: No, but the complaining was the same. Well,
there's always people have been bitching and moaning about the
Supreme Court from the get go, and it's just like, Okay, give
it a rest. And now they're complaining about the Supreme
Court justices wives that was not in play back in the day.
Adam Curry: Well, now we have also not in the play back in the
day was media organization taking down other media
organizations. I don't think that that was considered
ungentlemanly. unsportsmanlike,
John C Dvorak: was the same thing with writers. writers
would never condemn other writers and, yeah, that's true.
It was, it was. It was unwritten, unwritten code. Yes.
Adam Curry: So you've probably heard that the I think the owner
of epic times, or the I think the financial guy, someone's in
trouble.
John C Dvorak: He was a money guy, CFO,
Adam Curry: I think, yeah, the money guy got arrested for I
haven't looked into it. But okay, whatever. But that's not
what this is about. No, no, no, no. I mean, we know the epic
times were in fact, I would say we've used lots of material from
Epic times, because they're reporting at least isn't your
typical political base reporting. Would you say that's
Is that a fair statement, I
John C Dvorak: think is much more objective than the
mainstream media. Object newspapers.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, you're wrong. Here's NBC. NBC is
reporting.
Unknown: The Epoch Times is a conservative news outlet. They
have newspapers, and they have a website. And what you'll see is
very pro, Trump conservative, ultra conservative content. It's
come up in 2016 as a real player in the conservative ecosystem.
Before then it was really known as just a Chinese language
newspaper that was associated with Falun Gong, and Falun Gong,
it's a movement. It's a religious spiritual movement.
That's headed by a man named Master Li Hong Xiu, Master Li,
lives in Dragon Springs, New York. He lives and he is the
head of this religion. So all the people in this religion
Adam Curry: pagine I know oh, by the way, you get the this is the
I know she's a millennial, she may be z. And they get her to do
this piece with her fry and her up talk and then yes, it's
fallen go bed, his bed about and that but following Gong
explained following Gong before we continue with this, there
John C Dvorak: was a bunch of these I actually had a little
exposition about this for some years back and I don't have all
of it at the tip of my tongue, but it was part of a there was a
bunch of these movements, these meditative movement
Adam Curry: isn't yoga or something. It was kind of like a
yoga but she does. She does go into that later and fall
John C Dvorak: on Gong was the one that became the most
successful and it became they the Chinese government felt it
was politicizing itself and becoming a voting bloc or of
block that could cause trouble down the road. So it was banned.
Now there can all of it was foul on Gong, the fact there was a
bunch of these following F al U ns. And it was just one of many.
And it became the last one man standing and it became cutting
as controversial and all kinds of different directions. And
it's very but it's but I'd say it is based at this point in
history. It's anti Chinese. No, no,
Adam Curry: no, they're pro Trump. You've got it all wrong
man is pro Trump. Bring out the Gen Z here.
John C Dvorak: By the way the Falun Gong cares nothing about
Trump you are okay so
Unknown: wrong is that the head of this religion? So all the
people in this religion have their time at one of the media
arms now there's the Epoch Times. That's the newspaper. And
then there is NDTV and that's the television component or
video component.
John C Dvorak: Yes. And T D.
Adam Curry: She said no, no, no, no, no, no, she's NDTV is what
she says. But it's no NTD is not is not a part of epic times
isn't NTD No, she says in NDTV. She says she's wrong.
John C Dvorak: It's not NDTV. She's talking about anti D which
is part of the epoch
Adam Curry: about NDTV. NDTV that's a real thing. NDTV she's
not talking about NTD.
John C Dvorak: Okay, yeah, there is something else NDTV I'd like
yeah, no, I'll check it out. Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah, you can't on that machine. But believe me,
and I can
John C Dvorak: I got a browser here. I just don't don't have
Twitter. We'll go to Google. They'll
Adam Curry: tell you to vote for Biden, that
Unknown: newspaper. And then there is the TV and that's the
television component and the video component. And then
there's Shen Yun, and Shin Eun, if you've seen the ubiquitous
advertisements everywhere, it's a traditional Chinese dance
troupe with a very anti communist China message. The
whole point of all of this anti communist
Adam Curry: dance must go pro Trump.
John C Dvorak: That again she she made she's now there is no
such thing as in dt. NDTV
Adam Curry: is what she said. She said no, I put these clips
together myself. And
John C Dvorak: she said she's wrong. She's not it's N T D?
Adam Curry: No. Go to ndtv.com John, okay,
John C Dvorak: you are wrong. And you're gonna get away like
I'm doing I'm going to actually go on the browser crazy
Adam Curry: thought man crazy. While you're at it, look at that
cool PCR machine from the meet up China
Unknown: message. So the whole point of all of these things,
whether it's Epoch Times, or Shen Yun is to relay this
message that the end of the world is coming. If you are
aligned with communism, you will go to a sort of hell. And if you
are not wanting to communism, if you align yourself with Falun
Gong than you will be spared and you will go to heaven. So it's a
sort of an apocalyptic sort of cult, not unlike a lot of
religions. But what's interesting is that they're
using their money to really back Trump. They're using
Adam Curry: their money to back Trump. You are so wrong. I'm
sorry. He's just wrong on all fronts on this one. So
John C Dvorak: here's the other one. NDTV Yes, sir New Delhi
television out of India. NDTV meaning N T D.
Adam Curry: But isn't NTV the New Tang Dynasty?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, New Tang Dynasty is part of following
Gong.
Adam Curry: Well, this is an outrage. She can't
John C Dvorak: even get her story straight, let alone you
getting it straight. And in defending her.
Adam Curry: I'm defending what she said. She said NDTV That's
what I said. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: So Delhi television is not a follow on
cog operation. Okay. Sure. You wait,
Adam Curry: but wait, let's continue because it's still the
all they're doing. They only exist to be pro Trump. This is
the story.
Unknown: And they're aligning themselves with evangelicals.
And just you know, conservatives on the, you
Adam Curry: know, it's interesting pastor Jimmy just
just handed out epic times at church the other day, like,
thanks. Yeah, oh, the evangelicals are all in with
Falun Gong,
Unknown: and they're aligning themselves with Evangelicals,
and just, you know, conservatives on the internet to
really push a pro Trump method that really seems to be working
they have gone from a really it's working or no
Adam Curry: mucking about. It's working just so you know, it's
working. The whole point is to discredit and epic times it's
they're taking down another news organizations Oh,
John C Dvorak: they're just at you know, you're just asking for
trouble. This is ridiculous report. This woman should be
ashamed. Better,
Unknown: we fledgling newspaper where no one was really reading
it, it cost $1 Sometimes it was free on the
Adam Curry: students was crazy. A news organization, it only
costs $1. I mean, how can you pay salaries,
Unknown: and now they are everywhere here. senior editors
were in Trump Tower earlier this year interviewing Laura Trump.
They're interviewing congressman, celebrities kind
Adam Curry: of funny though, because, you know, they're
against communism, you know, like Trump is bloodmeal what is
Biden then?
Unknown: Me is like, you know, diamond and silk. Oh, no,
Adam Curry: diamond and silk. Oh, they're really poor. All
this stuff. So pro Trump, Candace Owens
Unknown: and Ted Cruz. They're really Coming up in the
conservative movement, and it's important to know who's behind
this, you know, something else they've done that's really
interesting lately and why we started looking at them is they
started buying Facebook ads, they've spent $1.5 million on
11,000 Facebook ads this year alone. And all of the ads are
very pro. They also push a conspiratorial message and
following Gong itself is really interesting because it started
in the 1990s. It started in China. And it was headed by
Master Li and Master Li sort of came up with this new practice.
It was a little bit of mysticism, a little bit of
Buddhism, a little bit of yoga. And so what he did is he made
this process as some one expert described to me, he made this
process of meditation, and Transcendentalism really, really
simple. So there are five exercises, you know, people
older people could do them in the park. You see them all
around New York City doing the exercises now, and it was really
easy. But it also came with some pretty out there ideas.
John C Dvorak: Out there ideas she's talking about people doing
in the park is was What is it where you're
Adam Curry: playing Frisbee, playing Frisbee? No, no.
John C Dvorak: No, you know that the the Chinese exercise, which
is a slow motion, kung Tai Chi is a tai chi. Yeah, yeah, that's
what they're doing in the park. You're not sitting around
meditating. I mean, this is, by the way, it's not that much
different that meditation technique. They're using then
Transcendental Meditation, which was a big thing with the
liberals,
Adam Curry: which you can see on NDTV from India.
Unknown: or Yes, yes.
Adam Curry: I got one more clip here. It's just it was it's just
what this is what the whole idea is, is to continuously to
continuously just propagandize people and it's the same message
over and over again. Conspiracy Theory, pro Trump. Ruining
democracy, conspiracy theory, pro Trump ruining democracy with
an ultra
Unknown: conservative worldview behind Falun Gong, so they don't
support gay people.
Adam Curry: They are I don't support gay people. Oh, now
you're in trouble Falun Gong, is that true? Do they are they are
they are they haters? Are they never heard the gays? Well, they
don't support the fact
John C Dvorak: that they have anything to do as Shin Jung, if
you haven't seen I mean, I haven't seen that presentation.
But just looking at the commercials for it is that if
that's not gay, I don't know what
Unknown: people they are anti pop music. They don't they hate
pop music part feminism. They rail against any sort of like
modernism, I mean, part of their their motto is traditionalism.
It's also important to know that in China, they were banned in
the 90s Because China didn't like the fact that they were
becoming so popular.
Adam Curry: Why is that important to know is the
question, it's important to know that China banned, banned and
Unknown: so they imprisoned some of their people of their
followers. And human rights organizations say that they
tortured and killed many so masterly brought his followers
here. He moved here himself, and he lives in New York. And what
he does is he runs a commie in the air with many followers,
they believe things that former practitioners have told us are
unsettling. So one of them is, you know, the aliens are real.
One is that they discourage the taking of medicine, because
masterly has taught that sickness is caused by some sort
of evil inside of you, and then it can fall and gone. Are you
John C Dvorak: seen anything like that in my life? Why is she
going to go into the Christian? What was which is the group that
refuses to take anything whatsoever Amish should decide?
As a Christian, what's the name of that group?
Adam Curry: There's only 30 seconds left. So I don't think
so
Unknown: masterly has taught that sickness is caused by some
sort of evil inside of you, and then it can, Falun Gong can cure
you of that. So, you know, these are all things that we've heard,
but the overarching
Adam Curry: music bed is kind of interesting. What that shows is
kind of a Ping Pong Pong, kind of like a, like an Asian wind
chime. Long, long, long AI. Background music, Chinese ping
pong. On
Unknown: contrary, you have that. So, you know, these are
all things that we've heard. But the overarching narrative is
that, you know, Falun Gong believers believe that we are
headed toward a judgement day where communists and non
communist will be pitted against each other. So all of these
outreach efforts, whether it's Epoch Times, or Shin Eun or NDTV
are all out there to sort of save the souls of sentient
beings they say this is all an effort to not only you know when
your soul not only you know when to vote for Donald Trump, but
also you know, to save the world.
John C Dvorak: Hope young you know They should be ashamed of
themselves for putting their money. She keeps saying NDTV by
the way. Yeah, right to the end. So she's clueless. That is a
shameful report.
Adam Curry: Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I hope you're bigoted. It's a bigoted,
shameful anti. Okay, while she's like doing the bidding of the
Chinese Communist parties, yes.
Adam Curry: Quite possibly. Well, I'll just wrap up my my
media overview with the two more topics. And the first one is, of
course, Alex Jones. We have an update on cars Friday, he was in
court for me to determine what will happen with Infowars. I
actually got a call from sort of Lucifer who works there. And he
was yeah, he says the the mood is not great. There's the ice 55
zero people working there. People who've worked with him
there for 15 years. And 55 people you said 5050 people?
Five D? Yeah. five zeros. A lot of people. Big operation. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, that's I think it's gonna end here. This
Unknown: is an attempt at Digital assassination.
conspiracy theorist Alex Jones was defiant in front of a
federal courthouse today, vowing that the government may shut him
down, but they won't shut him up. This is probably the end of
Infowars a federal judge in Houston ordered Jones to
liquidate his personal assets, worth an estimated four to $6
million to start paying the Sandy Hook families the $1.5
billion in defamation damages he owes them the decision will also
force Jones to auction off his jewelry and gun collection. An
attorney for Jones said $2 million is already sitting in
escrow for the families. After Jones sold the Texas ranch
Marlin court. Another episode of the Alex Jones Show aired on
infowars.com the platform where Jones spread his conspiracy
theories, the judge ruled that the company doesn't have to
liquidate its assets, but that Jones will not control the
money. The whole thing of the giant courts in both Texas and
Connecticut found Jones liable for defamation after he called
the attack fake a hoax and called grieving parents crisis
actors for Robbie Parker, whose daughter Emily was one of the 20
students killed at Sandy Hook in 2012. This case is not about
money. But accountabilities the reason
that accountability is important for me is because that's part of
the healing process.
The hearing comes the same week, the survivors of the Sandy Hook
massacre graduate from high school former classmates wore
green and white pins to honor their memory, a memory Parker
hopes never fades,
Adam Curry: some of the communications between the
families have been just very beautiful. And so it is touching
and it is emotional. Now this is obviously to send a message and
I gotta tell you, from my from my money message received
message received 1.1 $1.4 billion in a libel suit. Wow. So
so it seems like he'll be able to continue somehow. Well,
John C Dvorak: he's already know he's got his. Okay, so he's
going to lose everything. Let's take it what's gonna happen? The
worst case scenario, he loses everything, they auction off all
his stuff, they auction off everything he owns. And he's got
a gun collection, whatever that is, and the rest of the coins,
like gold coins, challenge coins, eggs, some challenge
because it's all gone. Got nothing left. This is the
internet era, he can start up over? No,
Adam Curry: but I think I think that he will have to continue
giving. They can take the money he makes in the future, too.
John C Dvorak: I think that's probably true. But it would be
on a payment schedule. So it'd be like, like buying a car,
you'd have to keep paying month after month. But he is also
bankruptcy issues here that he you should be able to get out of
some of this. And I mean, that's what the news video is does it
go bankrupt or somebody Sue's them within an inch of their
life. And so he's he's got he knows how to do this. He knows
the business, he can start up from scratch and build it up
rather quickly. He knows all the vitamin people that he can get
the product from he just changed the name of the product. And he
could also do stuff through third parties. There's a lot of
ways he can go. He's not an old guy who's just oh, well,
whatever. I'm gonna go retire. No, he's got plenty of have. He
knows what he's doing at this point in terms of making money
for himself and his president. He'll hire probably most of
those people back.
Adam Curry: I am so grateful for you. Why? Because throughout the
past set a well Good question, but there is a reason throughout
the past 17 years. You have always been protected the show
and probably more me by jumping in if I said something
completely libelous, and then you would correct me, so that it
was clear that we were correcting that. Because it just
goes to show you you got to be careful.
John C Dvorak: You do have to be careful. And I will tell you my
background on that is that when I wrote The with Adam Osborn, I
wrote a book called hyper growth. And Adam was freaked out
about getting sued, because he was saying some nasty stuff
about very CEOs. And so we went into a libel lawyer's office and
spent the day and pretty much I learned pretty much everything
you need to know from a practical perspective on how not
to libel or slander people. And I've been complimented in some,
in one case by a publisher who says, you know, you can call
somebody an asshole 10 different ways, but never really say it.
And that's kind of the key. And yes, well, thank you. I am
constantly I know it was drummed into me, but I'm very aware of
this problem. Yes. No, thank you. Easily labeling somebody.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah. Because people out there crazy. The
courts are crazy.
John C Dvorak: Crazy. For one thing, you can't call somebody a
crook. Yeah, that's the that's the one of the key that you just
can't say. Any, you know, if they haven't been convicted of a
crime, you can't call them a criminal
Adam Curry: unless you really bless your trump. You've Trump
you can call him your trump.
John C Dvorak: Call him anything. Anything you want.
Yeah. Well, there are differences people left and
right to Well, there are differences.
Adam Curry: Your kids are in the public eye, which is like this
kind of gray area. You can say horrible things about people who
are in the public eye. There's there's a gray area in tort law.
John C Dvorak: But Jones has always been up cross crosses the
line a lot. I listen to him. I mean, I listen to him. We have
Adam Curry: a troll trainee. Janee says I want to call Mimi a
crook. Too many egg too many eggs stole my heart. Ah. Isn't
that cute? All the
John C Dvorak: art in that book is from public domain sources
that are at least 100 years old. Give me a brainless year old
woman.
Adam Curry: The final series of clips I have here is very
unexciting. But the information is detailed. It's from Reuters.
Reuters. There's no reason you have to be boring. And this is
the Pentagon's psychological operation against Chinese with
anti Vax messaging if you follow that.
Unknown: Yep, Reuters has uncovered a secret anti Vax
campaign run by the Pentagon to undermine China during the
pandemic. despite objections from top diplomats, the US
military engaged in clandestine propaganda about COVID vaccines
that public health experts say is indefensible.
An aspect of military that many people don't realize or don't
know about is it the military controls a large network of fake
social media accounts, and other online profiles, which it can
use to influence foreign adversaries. In this case, they
were using a mixture of social media accounts on various
platforms, including Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and several
foreign language, social media platforms, popular in Central
Asia. So the message is typically focused on this idea
that foreign audiences should not trust Chinese pandemic aid.
So it would say that their face masks that they were donating
were fake. They would say that the test kits that they were
providing didn't work, they would say that the vaccines were
ineffective, not real. I think the most surprising message that
we saw was that they were pushing this idea that Chinese
COVID vaccines in particular sin, evac contained a pork
derivative, because where that message was targeted, was in
Central Asia among Muslim majority countries.
Adam Curry: Now the funny thing is, I remember some of those
stories. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: do, too. And yeah, this was by the way, you
didn't get to see because you're traveling. But this this was
written up in the newsletter.
Adam Curry: Oh, no, I didn't see that. No, you're right. Well, I
have two more pieces to this. What I just found interesting
is, of course, this never mentioned in this report is
Smith Mundt. Which does not allow our government to Well
originally did not allow our government to propagandize our
own people. Although it's kind of mentioned in there that was
later repealed in the National Defense Authorization Act under
Obama. But of course, there's B and the reason was was the
internet you know, we might spill over but I remember these
quite vividly. During COVID, how did this campaign begin?
Unknown: There was growing interest in increasing the US as
use of clandestine propaganda and influence operations
following the 2016 election.
Adam Curry: How about that's interesting, when
Unknown: Russian intelligence operatives ran a hack and leak
to influence American voters? Has
Adam Curry: that ever been proven anywhere, no hack and
John C Dvorak: for those Hokey Pokey as it were in Facebook,
they spent $100,000 in ad has
Adam Curry: hack and leak. Okay,
Unknown: hack, there was already support and interest in this
area that going years later in 2019. Policies are instituted
through Congress, and also within the Defense Department
that lessened the approval process and made it easier to
run these types of missions globally, even outside of
defined war zones. With the COVID pandemic erupting in 2020.
The military looks to employ these tactics, while State
Department officials voiced caution. Diplomats argued that
it was not the right time during a pandemic, to spread fear
through propaganda because of the ramifications. Nonetheless,
the military continued their operations until at least summer
of 2021. So
Adam Curry: when I hear this, all I can think of is, well of
course they did that because perhaps the whole COVID thing
was a military operation to begin with, including operation
warp speed. I mean, why else? Why else would they do that?
John C Dvorak: There was one thing you're not gonna get in
this report, which was in the newsletter, which is the is the
is the phrase that we're using over and over again, which is
China. China develop develop the China is responsible for the for
the COVID. China's does its own vaccines. Don't trust China?
There was this don't trust China meme that they were putting out
and I just thought it was right up our alley, because we've been
saying using that old don't trust China. Clip forever.
Donald Trump don't trust China, China is as home
Adam Curry: so we're part of the military SIOP campaign, I guess,
unwittingly well, actually adulterous. Unwittingly,
unwittingly, we were.
John C Dvorak: I think we've heard of a lot of stuff
unwittingly. But
Adam Curry: wait, you one of your favorite code words is in
this last clip. And
Unknown: so how did it end? The influence operation began in
early 2020 with the spread of the Coronavirus and ran through
the Trump administration. But it also continued through the
beginning of the Biden administration. In January of
the Biden administration. When they first came into office.
They were notified by social media companies who were
dismayed by what they found. They had independently noticed
that the military was conducting these operations through fake
accounts on their platforms. And they told the Biden
administration that they'd seen evidence of the military
spreading COVID misinformation. The White House and the National
Security Council issued a ban internally on messaging by the
military on vaccines, but we continue to see the operation
active until later that spring into the early summer. The
US military is prohibited from targeting Americans with
propaganda, and Reuters found no evidence that the Pentagon's
influence operation. Pentagon spokeswoman said the US military
does use platforms including social media to counter malign
influence attacks aimed at the US. And she noted that China had
started a quote, disinformation campaign to falsely blame the
United States for the spread of COVID 19. Trump and Biden
spokespeople did not respond to requests for comment.
John C Dvorak: What are they gonna say
Adam Curry: this whole things I mean, while they were deep
platforming people, citizens doctors,
John C Dvorak: for so called COVID Ostersund per COVID
disinformation.
Adam Curry: At the same time, they're just the our own
government is SIOP in China, and then China sigh up things back,
like Oh, whoa, no, didn't start here. This whole thing now
smells like one big military defense department, opera, the
whole COVID thing. And it makes sense with warp speed
John C Dvorak: will also make sense with some of the clips
coming floating around that about showing people that had
the vaccine already in the in the key Yeah,
Adam Curry: in 2019.
John C Dvorak: So there's, well, we're talking about this sort of
thing. You also die. We're getting the blowback.
Adam Curry: Mmm hmm. We got to take a break, John.
John C Dvorak: I'm just telling you daftar these two clips would
be perfect. Okay. These are Ryan Cole, a epidemiologist that was
floated around some, I think they caught him at a, at a
county fair giving a speech. And so they decided to get a couple
of licks in. And these are very funny. Well, and they're not
funny by any means, but they're horrible. stories he tells you
about was Ryan Cole, who was Ryan Gleason epidemiologist as
floating around the country giving speeches about how bad
this vaccine was. Target is what he is. He's another one of those
guys at Target.
Unknown: Dr. Cole,
what in your opinion, was the greatest crime during COVID?
Adam Curry: Sounds like a Dutch guy, by the way,
Unknown: the truth died. We were lied to by governments who were
taken advantage of by intelligence agencies, we were
taken advantage of by Departments of Defense. And the
people were lied to that's the truth in science died.
What do you see, in the aftermath of the mRNA shots?
I think the biggest problem we're going to be fighting for a
long time is chronic autoimmune disease. These injections were
contaminated with DNA. They were made with us instead of
synthetic RNA. And they weren't just making spike proteins, they
were making Frankenstein proteins as well. And when the
immune system is exposed to proteins that it's not supposed
to see, then it starts to go haywire. So certainly, we've
seen some excess sudden death. And we've seen death from all
causes increased around the world after the rollout of these
genetic injections that were never a vaccine. They were
experimental genetic injections. And so a lot of autoimmune
disease for a long time and decreased fertility rates we're
already seeing in many countries around the world. And what I
noticed early on was we're seeing a lot of runaway turbo
cancers. And I think we're going to continue to see that and
sadly,
Adam Curry: yeah, Bloomberg had a story this morning. Why is
everyone getting sick?
John C Dvorak: Hmm. Okay, Milton's finally out of the ice.
Well, yeah, we were terrible cancer.
Adam Curry: We were pelted with the Kate Middleton just on and
on and on. Well, so is the Charles he's also got to you
guys, but cancer. But I think so allegedly, to make sure we don't
get sued by the Windsors. Alright, is that Julie's the
right way? Oh, so Ryan, Ryan is doing county fairs?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is where you This is where these
guys are at? Yeah, county fairs. Good on
Adam Curry: him. And he's in the arena.
Unknown: These weren't what they were advertised to be. They were
never a vaccine. And the lesson here, I think, is that we should
never, as a population ever use synthetic RNA, or genetic
injections ever again. Right?
Was that a big accident? Or I know did the people know what
they were doing? Who made those vaccines and peddle them on us?
The powers that be it was a big money game for them. And they
made up a false emergency. SARS cov. Two was never an emergency
for 99.9% of the population. So they used it as an opportunity
to test out their, quote, new technology that they've been
tinkering with and always failing with, and they rolled it
out onto humanity. Like I said, from the stage here, they would
make Mengele blush in terms of human experimentation. This was
a horrendous breach of human rights around the world.
destroyed lives destroyed businesses put more people into
poverty. This entire couple of years has been history will look
back and hopefully these people will be shown to be shameful
like they weren't. That's right.
Adam Curry: Yes, we will have sub stacks to look back on this
history.
John C Dvorak: And depth for this section section, the B
block with a C block with a uplifting, little message
Adam Curry: very uplifting, by the way, apparently substack
just for your information being a sub stacker they've gone woke
and they say now you're that What are you categorized in on
on the sub stack? crackpot there you go and with that, I'd like
to thank you for your courage in the morning to you the man who
put the sea he just did it in crackpot but also in cobalt from
Ukraine. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and
only Mr. John Cena.
John C Dvorak: Well, in the morning, you'll miss your
morning, boots in the ground feet in the air subs in the
water all the days and nights out
Adam Curry: there in the morning to the trolls and the troll.
It's Father's Day Of course. We had previous Sunday we had 1989.
Today we have 1618 That's kind of to be expected. People are
hanging out with their dads they're not donating for their
dads. But they aren't hanging out with their dads. Although
there's a couple I saw a couple of Father's Day donations. We we
want you to join the trolls. I have not pointed troll room.io
at the new website that Tim Sir Tim made code monkey, which is
no agenda dot stream it is really good, very pretty very
fast, very handy. So much better than that that temporary page
I've had up there for oh, I don't know, 10 years. So we
appreciate that. So no agenda dot stream and I will point
troll room.io at it because that's where you can hang out
with. Well, let's face it more than one and a half 1000 Trolls
that's not bad. They're all listening live. They do it every
Thursday and Wednesday. Of course we do the show live no
matter where we are in the world whenever we can we bring it to
you live, we do it live with the accompaniment from John Cena
vortex noisemakers and drums. And you can also enjoy this on a
modern podcast app, try fountain fountain will immediately give
you an alert when we go live. Or if you can't listen to us live
when the show was published 90 seconds later, boom, it's up
there. And of course, you get all the extra bells and whistles
including the chapters, transcripts, you'd like the
transcripts, you can read along with the transcript. A lot of
people listen to the show for English as a second language. So
I'm actually some people come up to me and say, you know, I
really learned English by listening to you guys at the
meetup yesterday. I know. It's kind of a sad thought. But there
it is joking.
John C Dvorak: There's probably probably
Adam Curry: in October, we'll be celebrating 17 years, 17 years
and what a what a ride. It's been people want us to go for
for more, we're hanging in there. But remember, it's hard
to do this work. It's a grind. It's really takes a lot of grit.
And you know, we're doing it for you. And we can't do it without
producers. You heard we've got producers who are experts in
every single field that you can imagine. They've been carefully
trained throughout almost two decades, to always send us
information if they have it not think Oh, Adam and John won't
read it. Because we will. And we always take that information
gladly is very, very useful. You heard this or Tim does the
websites for us who got void zero. Everybody a little bit of
hardcoat health karma and prayers for void he's not
feeling too well. Particularly on Father's Day happened. Yes.
Some gasoline gastro issues. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'll make flu. No,
no, it's a little worse than that.
John C Dvorak: He'll live ulcer.
Adam Curry: It's not groovy. It's not it's not Oprah level,
but it's not great.
John C Dvorak: You know, when, if Oprah is going to make it?
You
Adam Curry: know, we'll get to that later. Also, we have to
talk about the new pandemic on the horizon. We'll do that right
after the break. There's a tease for you, because they're really
pushing it really really pushing it. And of course we have our
artists artists who use no agenda art generator.com I met
to one of our great Dutch masters Taunton, Neil at at the
meetup in here in Amsterdam yesterday. Of course that all
appears on no agenda are generated are calm, which Sir
Paul put together. I mean, really? We do have an amazing
community. Just look at the meetups by themselves. People
getting together. Yes.
John C Dvorak: So what When did she meet you before you said,
Oh, I was a kid. Yes, he
Adam Curry: was a kid. Yeah, she was a she was a teen. And she
gave me a, a, a beautiful, it's not really a scrapbook. It's a
produced book, which has scrapbook pages, but it's not
the actual scraps. It's all photocopied. And she put it into
a book and it's bound. And it's, I mean, it's beautiful. It is it
is a lot of a lot of my story. Certainly the days in the
Netherlands. She wrote me an eight page handwritten letter,
which was just fantastic. It was just great. It was great to meet
her again. It was great to hang out with her.
John C Dvorak: Do you remember meeting her the first time?
Absolutely not.
Adam Curry: But I've I've seen the picture. And you know, and I
can't even remember the event. I'm like, what, what what what
was that about? I have no idea. I have no idea. lost
John C Dvorak: to history. But she you know,
Adam Curry: she has followed my radio career and that inspired
her to get into radio. She actually studied broadcasting
communications in the States for a year. And then she became a
video editor. She's one of the first video editors on Big
Brother when the show first started to Dutch production when
first started here. And she I guess she was listening for
quite a number of years and never really wanted to send in
any art even though she has talent. And I think some of her
early work never got chosen if I remember the eight pages
correctly. And then she says and I feel figured it out. I figured
out well She sure did. What is she on the ranking right now?
She's gonna be up
John C Dvorak: there. Let's take a look at the leaderboards Adam.
Meanwhile,
Adam Curry: while you're doing that
John C Dvorak: the artwork was number six. Oh, I
Adam Curry: thought she was higher than that. Now, number
one is nicked a rat. This is all time or just or this year. This
is all time all time. How about from this year? Can you look
that up?
John C Dvorak: I got to roll I can do six months rolling.
Rolling six
Adam Curry: month average. Yes.
John C Dvorak: She stirred. Oh,
Adam Curry: I'm telling she's she's a Dutch master. For
episode 1668 We could have used some of her Dutch mastery we we
kind of went with the best one. We titled that one spill over
and this was the the yard sign the political yard sign, which
said rug pulled 2024 Make Trump deal with a corrector record.
Another Dutch master came in with that one. Let me take a
look. I know we were we weren't very satisfied with the
offering. And we're not saying that to be mean or anything.
We're just usually the
John C Dvorak: fault of the show. I would give it to defend
the artists if we don't have any triggering Yeah, commentary,
though. We did but it wasn't good. I can't do the art. So
Adam Curry: we had the you know, this is hard. This is a grind
which was a funny bid on the show with Meghan McCain. And so
they picked that one up. But yeah, that's no good. That's
John C Dvorak: no good. The other one is intent. And Neil
your friend, it kind of blew up her idea. I mean, she had the
idea listening to you, but then I you sent me the art the actual
picture that girls in the in the Apple presentation. Oh, yeah,
this is? It was a joke. Yeah, yeah. There was huge stove pipe
jeans there. Were there a denim with sandals. They look like
hell. And they're a high whatnot or your high water. Like you'd
like to put an old phrase? Yes. But they're always high. high
waisted. Yeah. So you look like a complete idiot on the stage.
And so
Adam Curry: I show that to Tina. You know what she says? Yep,
that's the fashion the girls are wearing these days.
Unknown: Well, good luck.
Adam Curry: That's what I said. Well, yeah, there'll
John C Dvorak: be attractive. The other girls wearing the same
outfit. That's for sure. That's which I think I said
Adam Curry: at Taunton, Neil did did put in the Shula discs from
the game, which was at the meetup, the the Dutch
shuffleboard. Yeah, I actually liked that piece. It was a good
piece, but we didn't think anyone would get it. Now the
Dutch might get it, but there was. I don't know. Do you think
we should have chosen that one?
John C Dvorak: In hindsight, no.
Adam Curry: Okay. But we appreciate the work of all of
the artists, the show would not be as successful without you.
There's no doubt about it. No doubt about it. And we
appreciate it. You can they're doing this live. So while while
we're talking they will be uploading art to nogen art
generator.com. Of course a tip for you new artists typically on
days like Mother's Day, Father's Day, Christmas Easter, we tend
to go traditional. We're always looking for something with an
edge but we tend to go traditional.
John C Dvorak: So if you can combine traditional with an edge
deals, there's your winner, there's your winner.
Adam Curry: Now for the so we all we ask for in return is that
if you get any value from the show, you know do something back
for the show. hit someone in the mouth, we asked for time, talent
treasure, you can give us a boots on the ground report. You
can organize a meet up you can send us your treasure. What I'd
like to do is since there were so many executive and Associate
Executive producers who handed on the spot donations, I'll I'll
do these now. I should just do everybody real quick. I wrote it
all down. Because I'm not shuffling through notes. Before
we then get to the rest of our executive and Associate
Executive Producer. That sounds okay by you. Yeah, it's fine.
Okay. I'm just asking like a little meeting on the side
little sidebar. So we had the raffle that this is something
that's started at these meetups. It's, it's interesting where
there's a raffle and everybody puts some donation money into
the pot. There were a lot of people there so the pot equaled
389 euros and that was won by a Sebastiana sticker. And he's
from taste your favorite spot. And so he will be listed as an
executive producer today. He wants no jingles no karma. Then
we had him Jacobina dame of the of the doomsday Demers I think
it is and was hard to read. She gave us a nice card. And 360
euros all this was cash by the way a couple of people gave us
some actual American money. Kyra lien may see deer number $100 in
cash and that's towards her Day a day mode also for her
birthday, which was June 5, and she says thanks for keeping her
saying. Chantel writes My 50 euros and she wants to deducing
almost second.
Unknown: Can you spend de duced
Adam Curry: rumbled Roberts hustle Brink 50 euros and a $5
note and very important a KLM dei pen, which is actually one
of the most interesting things I received. It literally says
diversity and inclusion on the pen. I think it's a collector's
item.
John C Dvorak: I think so too.
Adam Curry: Now, I'm not sure who gave me the no agenda monkey
and I forget who gave me the Jesus t shirt. But thank you for
that. We got to forever be 12 plus pillboxes from one of our
producers. I'll be sending that to you, John. That'll keep us
alert and alive forever. God is a matinee made music T shirts.
No runners pin. Then we had shady character 33 200 euros so
Associate Executive Producer, and he has some Oh yes, some
viral viral medical books that he wants added to the no agenda
books list. We'll do that. No jingles no karma. Sir. Rome,
Nolan 200 euros Edna Hema envelope, which was a nice touch
switch roofers deemed to be Bianca Bianchini and he has been
hitting her in the mouth for 10 years. And finally she started
listening. No jingles no karma. serpents. 200 euros plus 33.
American sense. You want to double up karma. You got that
form. You've got karma. And so that's Associate Executive
Producer his sister Kim gave us 333 euros and 33 cents or full
on executive producer ship. She lives in Portugal. She wants to
do you spend deed deuced and she rents out holiday homes in benna
Gil in the Algarve in Portugal. If you mentioned no agenda while
renting one you get a free bottle of champagne. Then, very
interesting. Amit, the Israel Israel lander. Amit is so he's
Israeli. And I mean, he's so Israeli. John, he's Mossad. Now
you should have said how Israeli is he? How Israeli is he? He's
so Israeli. If you put on a black hat and some curly Q's, he
could sell diamonds in New York. And he and he gave me an
envelope and you know, with the with 100 euros on it, and the
envelope said, here it is your Jew money.
John C Dvorak: So yes, by the way, Israelis don't look like
that.
Adam Curry: Amit does this one.
John C Dvorak: I know you might. But that doesn't mean he's not
like.
Adam Curry: I'm just telling you roop this is this is what Amit
looked like. But I just thought it was funny that he's good
look, he said, Yeah, it was a great look. Finally he says,
Here's your Jew money. It's true. We're getting Jew money.
And he says John's about time. He says John, He loves it when
you say someone's a mnemonic, because it reminds me he says of
his old Jewish mother.
John C Dvorak: So why she wasn't a nude Nick. Nick
Adam Curry: Ludwin, luxury and gave us a bottle of her SMPL dot
international 7072 plant derived minerals. I'm tripping on him
right now. Got an old Amsterdam cap from Jacob, I think and 33
euros and you need to do
Unknown: D deuced.
Adam Curry: So thank you all very much, who came to the
meetup. It was great to see everybody. It was great to hang
out with you. And we'll do it again in four more years.
Something like that. It's tiring, long day. Over to our
Executive Associate Executive producers came in either through
the PayPal or through the PIO box checks etc. Or stripe. We
kick it off with Pim interim from Maastricht the Netherlands
four, five 6.66. And now oh, this is a meetup donation is why
there's well being invited to the meetup in Amsterdam. I
realized I couldn't show up without finally pushing myself
into knighthood. Is he on the list for knighthood? I take a
look here.
Unknown: Because it's not I don't think so.
Adam Curry: Not blue. Let me check.
John C Dvorak: No, he does. Oh, let
Adam Curry: me see what he says in the rest of the note. I've
been listening on and off and depending on my commute
schedule, but always enjoyed it every second. last donation was
10 years ago. Time flies when being a douchebag when you're a
douchebag. I guess, Adam? Uh, well, uh, maybe he's just being
he's on his way to knighthood I think. No, no, no, not really.
So time flies when you're being a douchebag hope i Adam would
have enjoyed the best limbers to fly. Oh yes, there was limbers
to fly which is Dutch cherry pie. Very good from the best
Baker in the Netherlands. And not I got nothing else much else
to say no jingles or special night name kind regards PIM from
Maastricht in the Netherlands, so I'll just make him serve him.
I think he's Yes, sir. pimelodus All right.
John C Dvorak: I guess it was confusing. Yeah. Maggie tindora
Finn, Carlsbad, New Mexico 350. In honor of my smokin hot candy
and avian husband's birthday on June 20, I am donating 350 for
Martin north to pull them out of his current douchebag status.
You've been de deuced Happy Birthday. Keep up the great
work. Very
Adam Curry: nice. Douglas Murray Missoula, Montana 338 dot 33
first executive producer donation so it's doing some
heavy lifting. Happy birthday to my mom Jerry and Happy Father's
Day to my dad. They lost a son on May 29. Rest in peace and my
brother and his wife don't do drugs. He says their babies are
in great hands. So send them your love and that sounds like a
drama. This is a partial switcheroo please boost my sis
to bear Netis Dame Ellen of the dream realm. I'd been a Baronet
already myself, but I went all in on the dame drive back in the
early days of COVID to get her a ring and never gotten I did
myself. Oh man. You're a great brother. Please help me sir. Did
you top of the sharp shovel boot karma for me please? I'm sorry.
I must have missed the boob karma. Is there such a thing?
No. We don't have I don't see your boob karma. Rattlesnake and
eggs with Miss cow at the round table. If I may thank you for
your courage Douglas Murray. Well, we do have some karma for
you but not at the booboo you've got karma but I'm sure you'll
get it works with karma. You ask you receive
John C Dvorak: Connor Balian tip city Ohio. Three Three 3.69 ITM
gentlemen, I couldn't resist the opportunity to donate to the
show number that ends in 69. Can you please consider this a
randomizer donation as I don't want my total donation
accounting to be that many sixes in a row? Please also de douche
my friends sir Nick Leary. Ben de deuced is a night where he's
never been deduced. I don't think he needed it. Adam, I
think what you're doing with booster gram balls and Bitcoin
could revolutionize the music industry. And peer to peer
payments. perfect use case for bit playing. I haven't heard one
in a while. I'll have to tune back in. send prayers instead of
a jingle. Can I get an OH NO from John. Oh, no. Thank you for
your courage. Connor Bailey. In Columbus, Ohio, Columbus, Ohio.
Adam Curry: Becky, Kenny, Kenny, and he she is in Katy, Texas.
Happy Father's Day, James. Thank you. Appreciate that. Please see
Pay Pal donation of 333 dot 33 To celebrate Father's Day from
my wonderful husband, Baronet. Well, Baronet Mike, of the great
Katy Prairie. Just look at what great fathers our sons are to
see how good a father you are. I love you honey. Keep up the good
work no jingles no karma regards Becky Kenny Dame with a great
Katy Prairie. That's a beautiful one Becky.
John C Dvorak: Dame Greta Harrington comes up from sparks
Nevada. 33333 ITM John and Adam, Happy Father's Day. Thank you
for your courage,
Adam Curry: sir Larry Columbus, Ohio. 333 dot 20. Sir Larry here
Happy Father's Day to my dad Robert Leary. This is a
switcheroo donation. So the executive producer credit goes
to him. Also Central Ohio meetup Friday, June 21. And there will
be a Dayton Ohio meetup Saturday June 22. You got it.
John C Dvorak: Okay, now, I have to get the notes out. Once you
read this when he added a note in front of you.
Adam Curry: Yes, I think I do. What is my my my my soul? My
small screens, man. My small screens.
John C Dvorak: Shoot where it was right near me. And I
Adam Curry: got it. I got I haven't notes open. This is from
it's this. This is a $300. Yes, I'm saying that right. Yes. And
this is from Charlotte from San Francisco. And I have the note
here. Luckily, it's a yellow paper. Apparently, there's a
post it note. Adam and John. Listen to your show often and
never feel I've wasted my time aiming for a dame hood for a
year from now. I have my number straight. Okay, I hope you do.
Thanks for anchoring so many of us to sanity anchoring to
sanity. With lots of last thrown in, keep on keepin on, says
Charlotte
John C Dvorak: the general with a Ge, Ge Ge and Wyatt Jen with a
G Gen or Gen Gen Gen a Gen G Gen Gen with a G A G G and Wyatt
then Liberty Lake Washington. tu tu tu tu tu tu first Associate
Executive Producer. This row of ducks is to honor Kyle the spook
A Spokane this Father's Day is brought more joy to us as a
father than we could have ever imagined. Please send us more
baby making karma we got that. Still working on it but as you
to suggested John Adam will be on the list of possible names.
We love you Kyle. Love Jen with a Ge, Ge Ge and Wyatt. Imagine
if they have twins.
Adam Curry: It's John Adams. Or how about Charles and Clark? Our
middle names is also not good you happen to bend over kids
here's your bad karma
John C Dvorak: is not the baby making karma?
Adam Curry: Yeah it is Dane best not Oh you're right I'm sorry
it's so new the baby making karma that I forgot we had it
here we go. There's your baby making karma Come on, baby. Come
on up.
Unknown: You've got Parma
Adam Curry: you put that one together yourself? I did on
Audacity. Yeah. Cool. That's a good one. Day Beth is in Tucson
with a row of ducks. 222 dot 22 Heil boys, calling all Tucson
slaves to join us for libation snacks and fun. During the
second summer solstice Soiree. This Thursday at Kings crown
from four to seven. It's a dry heat. No jingles no karma damn
Beth bareness of the Baja Arizona.
Unknown: Que me to do this.
John C Dvorak: I got de you might as well you got him open
to
Adam Curry: him. Bang bang to 1875 John Adam, it has been a
long time since my last donation. Wishing you both a
Happy Father's Day. Thank you. Did you get anything for
Father's Day?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I gotta get from J.
Adam Curry: Oh, what did she give you? Can we talk about it?
John C Dvorak: Well, it was it was what she gave me is a crazy
something she saw on Tik Tok. Yes. It's a crazy Lazy Susan
device that goes onto one of the shelves with your refrigerator.
And you load it up with everything you need to spin it
around and it tucks back in there. It's an absolutely key.
If you have a refrigerator that's deep like I do. It's the
only way and get to the stuff in the back. It works great. What
are you gonna put in it condiments? No, it's all
condiments already. She already installed it. And yeah, it's
called most economists. And in fact, in the process of doing
that I discovered a mustard that I lost somehow in the
refrigerator years
Adam Curry: ago. Any other treasures back there?
John C Dvorak: Not anything major. Okay, good. My
Adam Curry: daughter is taking me on a pancake boat tour.
John C Dvorak: Do pancakes float? No.
Adam Curry: But they will be making pancakes while they tour
through the waters of Rotterdam. Which I've never done. Yeah,
never done that. And it's supposed to be beautiful weather
when we do it on Tuesday. So back to Dame Bang Bang wishing
us both a Happy Father's Day. Please accept this donation in
honor of Sir DH slammer. Who is a wonderful father and husband.
He will be celebrating his birthday on 618 So this is a
we'll have a we'll have on the list. Happy Father's Day and
birthday. My night love Dane bang bang. Isn't that nice?
John C Dvorak: He will he got Zedek Gazette is a doc Zadar ZZ
Doc Brown to third. And Maka Maka Wha Oh. In Hawaii to 1270
and no note NOAC anything you're used to double up karma.
Unknown: You've got karma.
Adam Curry: Amy Lipinski Cold Springs Minnesota to 1060 must
include some fees there appreciate it. Good morning,
gents. Switch route today for my my excuse me. My smokin hot
husband Dan the man Dan Lipinski. Happy Father's Day
from your loving wife Amy Lynn and your loving but sometimes
difficult daughter zayley. Thank you for all you do for us. Is it
is zayley zayley. I
John C Dvorak: think it's just a difficult daughter I think a
mnemonic
Adam Curry: is there any other kind? That's at certain ages?
They're all difficult daughters. That's what dads would tell you
if they're honest. Thank you for all you do for us. Dan used
dailies Christmas money on a donation for me for Mother's
Day. So I figured we might as well use her birthday money for
it but Father's Day that's how you do it with those difficult
daughters Good job mom. seemed logical to me. Anyway, thank you
Dan for supporting us always and really supporting me in his
first year of running my own business. If you're in my area,
Cold Spring Minnesota and are in need of a new hairstylist. Look
me up. Refreshed, LLC. That's refreshed, LLC. Thank you, John
and Adam for your continued media construction. It is highly
appreciated. Happy Father's Day all father's out there from Amy
Lipinski.
John C Dvorak: Anonymous in Colorado to under seven bucks.
This donation is in memory of my father, a guy worthy of a Kid
Rock song who was taken from us by dem aside in the COVID
nightmare of summer 2021. I transmitted it to him and while
he could have easily been saved by early treatment, instead, he
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Unknown: Our formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the
mouth
Adam Curry: All right. I want to I want to hit us with the bird
flu right away because they cannot stop. They just can't
stop for whatever reason. They can't stop. And it's spreading.
Not what have some CBS clips. I
John C Dvorak: know you probably noticed that spreading it all.
Adam Curry: The meme is spreading the bird flu mean.
John C Dvorak: Yes, yes, for sure. Yeah, that right and most
Adam Curry: interesting, I would have to say and I do have some
CBS clips. I know you have a couple as well, because we have
to stay on top of this because we were a little lacks. When
that COVID thing came along. We were laughing at the people
fallen down on Tik Tok in China. He was all funny. And there was
no one dying and they were just ramping it up and then all of a
sudden we were locked down and life change for everybody. But
now it is we already identified this happening on the last show
where Chris Cuomo started talking about you know, the the
flu vid and the flu Vax and should we take it who did and I
think news, I think News, News News Mac news nation has been
compromised. And this is the Cuomo show with some feeling kid
and listen to what he has to say, could
Unknown: we be on the verge of another pandemic and one that
could be even worse than the one caused by Coronavirus. This
time, it could actually be bird flu. Let's hope not. The CDC is
now calling for more testing for bird flu at America's farms
sounding alarms after several farm workers contracted the
disease from animals since 2003. There have been 888 confirmed
human cases worldwide, according to the DC, CDC, but but here's
the scary part half of those half of those patients died from
the disease. Compare that to COVID in which just 0.6% of
people who tested positive actually died. The fear now is
that the bird flu is changing, adapting and could spread to not
just birds, but also cattle and pigs and then eventually spread
from human to human.
Adam Curry: So that's just the setup. Well, that's
John C Dvorak: worse than anything report I've heard
because he's used the current the term is changing. And
adapting. It's not.
Adam Curry: Oh, but it doesn't have to do anything. It doesn't
have to exist. All I'm waiting for now is Johns Hopkins. This
one needs to come out with some charts.
John C Dvorak: I think we need I think we're in intermix with my
three clips as a Johns Hopkins
Adam Curry: may really you really have a Johns Hopkins
mentioned I
John C Dvorak: just mentioned, I think there may be one in there.
Adam Curry: Well, let me let me get through these. And let's see
if you have a Johns Hopkins. This is the introduction of a
guy who I kind of had respect for but I've lost it now. This
is Redfield, the guy from the CDC who resigned who left he was
like this is no good and he was kind of in the in the man this
is bullcrap. We shouldn't have done it this way
John C Dvorak: Academy put a gun to his head there. Yeah, yeah.
Hey,
Adam Curry: what's this picture man?
Unknown: Former CDC director Robert Redfield, who helped
oversee our country's response to COVID says it is definitely
time to take this more seriously. And Dr. Redfield
joins me live now. It's always nice to see you, doctor. I
remember you told Chris not long ago, that the bird flu could
make COVID COVID look like a little pandemic, which was quite
alarming. I mean, is that really the case? Yes, Brian,
I really do think it's very likely that we will at some
time, it's not a question of, if it's more of a question of when
we will have a bird flu pandemic. And, as you mentioned,
unfortunately, bird flu has, when it does enter humans has a
significant mortality, probably somewhere between 25 and 50%
mortality. So it's going to be quite complicated. Since 2019,
we've had a progressive increase in bird flu in chickens and
ducks and turkeys in our country. And since then, you've
seen it now go into a number of mammals. It's now in over 25
different mammals, I think now with the lions recently is now
in 27 minutes in the llamas animals in the United States.
Why is that important? Is why know exactly what has to happen
for bird flu to be infectious for you and go human to human
scientist in 2012 actually did experiments in the lab using
function research, which I'm not in favor of, but two scientists
did it and they figured the five amino acids that have to change
in a key receptor in order for us to gain a propensity to bind
to the human receptor and then be able to go human to human. So
Adam Curry: if I hear this Guy correctly, he's just saying it
that all they have to do is pull the trigger the recipe you can
get it from me Chad GPT they just have to change the five
little bits and then we can have bird flu. That's what he's
saying.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's very true what they're doing this
what they're working on is that like, you know, the Peter
McCullough clips describe this perfectly, and they named the
lab and the people. He did a pretty good job of that even
though I got a nasty note from somebody saying up here, my call
is part of the op.
Adam Curry: Well, he's certainly well, if the OP is to tell us
that they I mean, what I'm hearing now because this is news
nation. This is not CNN is not CBS. CBS is not NPR. And we know
this is the Cuomo show, which by itself is clearly some kind of
op. Clearly guy can't apologize for anything. And then take that
with what Macaulay is saying they are basically saying
without saying it, they can do it to you. They can do it. Now
what that means is little interesting because I don't
recall McCullough saying 50% of people will die from the bird
flu there's no evidence so
John C Dvorak: he's the opposite. Yeah, he said this is
all the people that is and he said I'll just reiterate without
him to play these clips again. He said that the people who died
at a higher death rate of bird flu are the ones out in the
middle of nowhere China, where are they handling a lot of birds
and again Depp getting bird flu and then they never get treated
at all and they're just left to die and so they die at a high
rate but that's not what would happen in a normal situation. So
that the bogus that deaths rate numbers bogus
Adam Curry: Okay, so but but the idea they can do it Redfield is
now propagating the
John C Dvorak: idea what they could do is not kill people
whose is the changed amino acid so it becomes human, the human
transmissible, but according to Makala, again, this is just a
result in everybody having conjunctivitis it would be kind
of gory to watch, look around at what people look
Adam Curry: like. And we'll have to test with swabs in our eyes,
which
John C Dvorak: that is right. I forgot about that. Yes, well,
well,
Adam Curry: I think the key word here is just like we had the
ferrets during COVID I think the llamas, the llamas are the ones
who look out for when the llama start keeling over, then you
know they've released
Unknown: it, is it like COVID? Where if you cough someone else
can get it? Is that how it spreads? Or does it spread a
different way? No,
it's likely to spread through aerosols and droplets is how
it's going to eventually spread mascot. And once the once the
virus gains the ability to attach to the human receptor,
and then go human to human, that's when you're going to have
the pandemic. And as I said, I think it's just a matter of
time. Normally, the five amino acid changes is a huge, huge
species barrier. So who knows how long that will take but as
it goes into more and more different mammals, it's changing
its use of receptors. It's changing. It's changing. It's
learning to how to use different receptors for dolphins and
seals. And it's learning how to use receptors. I
Adam Curry: think seal flew is cool dolphin flew. I can't come
to work. I got dolphin flu.
Unknown: And it's learning how to use receptors in bears and
polar bears and polar bears and raccoons and cats. Cats. Oh,
it's going through a lot of changes in polar bears.
Adam Curry: There's money in testing polar bears. I guarantee
you, Susie
Unknown: and raccoons and cats. So it's going through a lot of
changes. And it's as it picks up cold and flu middies new
receptors, it can get closer and closer to humans recently in
cattle, you know where it was recently described and now is in
the significant number of cattle in the United States. You know,
I'm concerned about that because cattle live close to pigs and a
lot of times in flu. There's been a relationship of flu going
from pigs to humans as it's trying to evolve wise.
John C Dvorak: China is where you have this mixture of
livestock we don't have I don't know of any cop get called
farmers who have a bunch of pigs mixed in.
Adam Curry: No You're misunderstanding you
misunderstanding.
John C Dvorak: When he said my misunderstanding he says that
the cows are going to give it to the pigs and it's gonna mix up
into a witch's brew of God knows what is going to come out and
kill us all. That's what I heard.
Adam Curry: No, you need to understand the code when they
say pigs.
That's the code word, because to them we're just pigs in human
clothing. Pigs are all pigs to them concerned
Unknown: about that because cattle live close to pigs and a
lot of times in flu, there's been a relationship of flu going
from pigs to humans as it's trying to evolve in gaining the
receptors it needs to go human. I'm less concern, though, that
this will happen through spillover and evolution are much
more concerned that this will happen in the laboratory to gain
a functional research.
Adam Curry: I mean, just say it, they're gonna do it mail in
ballots mask up, flatten the curve, the CDC weighs
Unknown: in on the medical life, the CDC is tracking two drug
resistant flu strains. They're mutations of the h1 and one
virus which was responsible for the swine flu pandemic and 2009.
The news was
Adam Curry: not stop. I was there. It was not a SWAT, they
did not call it a pandemic. Do you remember them calling it?
John C Dvorak: You're wrong? Really? It was that Chinese
woman if you remember, we were doing the show. Yeah, it was
that Chinese woman who was the head of the who, who out of the
blue, deemed it a pandemic? And this is that flu that came out
of Mexico? I think it was they're lined up for it
Adam Curry: for the shots of the only clip I have is this
Unknown: I discovered a new strain of the flu that has the
potential to become a pandemic
Adam Curry: that it had pandemic potential.
John C Dvorak: No, no, she I'm telling you I can do the
research if I have to. But I'm telling you, she called it a
pandemic and it just didn't stick the way did with COVID She
nobody took her too seriously. She's She was just not a good
age who person. Pandemic Okay, okay. I never was much of one
except in fact that they lined up I had pictures I had photos
at the Albany library of people lined up around the block Luca
Star Wars
Adam Curry: to get their swine flu shot. I remember that.
Unknown: All right, let's continue pandemic and 2009. The
new strains are more resistant to the flu treatment Tamiflu,
and also retain sensitivity to other anti flu medications.
Despite this, the CDC is not recommending any changes to
clinical care for the mutated virus.
Adam Curry: So they're just pushing all kinds of noise into
the ether. I have a couple of CBS clips but I want you to play
your NPR clips first.
John C Dvorak: I believe this to be from NT de Oh, it
Adam Curry: says NPR. It does. It says NPR clip one NPR? Well,
we'll know we know if they go Hey, hi. Hello, boy. Yeah. Hey,
how you doing Toppy? Yeah, then we'll be
John C Dvorak: rollin. Oh, yes, I'm sorry. You're right. Clip
one NPR and D G.
Unknown: Does the US have bird flu under control? It's hard to
tell even though it's been close to three months since the virus
was first spotted in dairy cattle. New cases are still
cropping up most recently in Wyoming and Texas. This week,
federal health agencies released several new assessments of the
situation and PRs will stone is here to tell us the latest Hey,
Well,
John C Dvorak: hey there. Hey, Well, hey there.
Unknown: What can we learn from these latest report? What
Adam Curry: are you learning? Well,
Unknown: well, we got a better sense of how bird flu is
spreading between different dairy farms. The virus has been
detected in more than 90 herds in a dozen states since late
March. Many of these cases were in Michigan, the USDA drilled
down into what's happening there. They found it's mainly
being transmitted from hurt to hurt in three ways. So first,
through shared equipment and vehicles. Second, people are
carrying the virus inadvertently on their clothing or boots. And
finally, some animals that are infected are moving between
farms, there had been concerned that wild birds could be
repeatedly reintroducing the virus into dairy cattle. So far,
federal officials say the evidence does not support that,
based on genetic sequencing of viral samples. It appears there
was a single spillover event when a wildbird spread is below
in Texas sometime last year. And that sparked this unprecedented
nationwide outbreak in dairy cattle.
Adam Curry: It's really it's really mixed. Hold on. It's
really interesting, how you introduce us to the term
spillover, which was in a totally different context. And
now we both had both had to clip two clips today with the term
spillover Yeah. So
John C Dvorak: word they want to put into public domain so we're
hearing it a lot. Yep. And you're gonna hear it more. So
Adam Curry: and we will hear it maybe we'll hear spillover it's
time to donate.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. We'll be rich. So so this makes it now
McCullough in the previous clips that we played a talked about
they infected some mallard ducks. Yep. And the ducks are
floating around because how US you explain it going from Texas
to
Adam Curry: migrate out to Wyoming a migrate the mallard
ducks are big migrators
John C Dvorak: and their float, are you but mallard ducks are
feeling all over the floaters. And so by Meanwhile, they're in
denial about this because they don't want to push the push it
push back on that lab that created the mallard duck. And so
they end up with this bullcrap story. Oh, it's because of the
same equipment and somebody's got mud on their feet. We're
talking about Michigan and Wyoming. This is not You're not
exchanging cattle between these two states or?
Unknown: I mean, it's bull crap.
Adam Curry: How about Peking duck Peking duck. That's how
it's gonna be. This can originate from Peking duck. We
gotta blame it on
John C Dvorak: Dexter, one of the prettiest ducks you've ever
seen in your life and tasty. They are very tasty. Yes,
indeed. All right. Anwar was more than now. So there's some
reason that they don't want to? Because the guy specifically
said no, it's not migratory fowl. It's as Madonna boots on
the boots on the ground. So this is not so we know that there's a
problem. They're trying to control the narrative and
they're doing a shitty job of it. Here we go beyond
Unknown: animals, though. I know a few humans have contracted
this flu, which has some folks concerned about this sparking a
pandemic. Do we have any better sense of the risks of people
Adam Curry: concerned? It's sparking a pandemic? John? I'm
gonna put it in the book, man. I'd give us two more months
before we have real pandemic noise coming from the Biden
administration. They're doing it. They are doing it. I don't
know if it'll work. It's gonna be interesting to see all the
people who say, I'm not putting a mask on. I'm not gonna do
that. No way. Not gonna happen. Well, hold
John C Dvorak: on before you continue. I can go to a grocery
store today and see people with masks. And a third of the people
will be wearing a mask I know but if it becomes,
Adam Curry: quote unquote, mandatory Yeah, I'm not I can
tell you right now. I'll go to jail.
John C Dvorak: Coded jail. in Fredericksburg. There's nothing
to worry about. Good policing, by the way during the last
pandemic was nil. Except for you know, it was so much easier
pressure say put a mask on it was self policing. Yeah. Yeah,
it was self policing. We could go out you're locked down
bullcrap. Just go out. Nobody cared.
Adam Curry: We knew. We need to get out in front of this. We
need no agenda shop was some T shirts and hoodies and stuff
that have a good slogan like, bird flu question mark. Yo,
Mama. Something like that we need
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, that'll do it. Yeah, jingle
maker Adam curry.
Adam Curry: I'm just I'm just I'm just giving an alley up. I'm
just trying to get lay it up here. Someone else has got to
put it in. Okay.
Unknown: Do we have any better sense of the risks of people
here?
So right now federal health officials say the risk to the
general public remains low. If you work with dairy cattle,
obviously, the risk level is higher. There's still only been
three human cases reported the most recent one was in a
Michigan dairy worker. That was more concerning because the
person actually had respiratory symptoms. I asked the Centers
for Disease Control and Prevention this week, whether
there were any alarming mutations in the sample arm
virus they collected from that person. Here's what Dr. Nirav
Shah with the CDC told me
Adam Curry: just listen to this Scripps alarming respiratory
symptoms what I mean, I have respiratory symptoms. What are
you talking about NPR,
Unknown: we didn't see any signs in the virus's fingerprints that
suggests that you're able to transmit between humans or from
animals to humans. So
clearly that is reassuring but without a doubt there are people
in public health who are deeply worried about the situation
John C Dvorak: Okay, stop and stop the clip. This is the
classic type of propaganda you get from these guys. Yeah. The
clip said specifically there's nothing's going on. We can't
find any evidence of anything and then you got cut back to the
guy says but other people and without the attribution are
concerned No, I didn't say go back right back into the
narrative that you just described as a script.
Believable how bad this is here, but this is making me take your
site on this thing to some extent even though I still think
it's never gonna go anywhere because these guys are
incompetent boneheads, but okay.
Adam Curry: We just, we just need some charts. We need some
numbers. We need some. We need trucks, refrigerators, Johns
Hopkins, Johns Hopkins in refrigeration trucks, then we're
good to go. Clearly
Unknown: that is reassuring. But without a doubt there are people
in public health who are deeply worried about the situation. The
fact that we don't have more visibility around this outbreak.
Are there unknowns that have public health officials
concerned? There's a lot of for starters, exactly how many
cattle are infected right now. We don't know. I asked the CDC
if we even have some sense of the trajectory here. Have we hit
the peak of cases in cattle? The answer was also we don't know.
Andrew Peck OSH roundup another big concern when I spoke to him,
which is better surveillance on the human side of things.
pickoff is a virologist at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg public.
Adam Curry: Johns Hopkins coming in coming in through the side
door? Well, yes, we need. So first of all, we know from our
producer who repented on this very show, what a what a money
making scam the testing is. So we clearly need to get into the
testing game. Can you say ESXi X IT strategy? I mean, $750
million, just for a half of the California the Los Angeles
School District. So the test so there's a lot of money that's
going to be pushing this. Everybody sees it. Everybody
knows it. Everybody wants it.
John C Dvorak: Boom, the blueprints out there. It's we
already saw that it's effective and safe for making money. It's
safe way to make money and it's effective. I just haven't
effective.
Adam Curry: I just want to get in on it. I mean, can we do
John C Dvorak: this? We had to think about it. There is a way
we had we should be able to get
Adam Curry: so. So the elements that are missing here. One,
Johns Hopkins in the side door. So that's a start. We need Ted
Ross. Ted Ross needs to start talking. That's a given I think
okay.
John C Dvorak: Ted draws video that's floating around tick tock
waves
Adam Curry: dancing gay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And, and the one
with the Zelinsky and McCrone. That's not those guys. That's
the real deal. And we need Marco Rubio in there, more of that.
Ai. Now, so we've got we got to have Tadros that's that's easy,
because he'll he'll just do whatever they tell him. That's
he's probably already talking. I think Bill Gates is going to
back off a little bit, but GAVI will be in there. We need a
Fauci figure.
Unknown: That and by the way,
John C Dvorak: Hotep
Adam Curry: Peter Hotez? Yeah, he's not dynamic. We need
someone who can do the White House briefings. Maybe Redfield
maybe Redfield is vying for the spot. Maybe that's why he's out
there written and Redfield will be good enough, you know, former
CIA, he's
John C Dvorak: an old man, and I think you need an older guy
sounds like it?
Adam Curry: No, no, he's, he's probably my age. Don't say don't
say it's
Unknown: too late. That's really
the critical thing that we're not worried about is, if this
virus gets into humans, then the virus can adapt to humans
directly. This has been going on long enough so that there should
be antibody signatures in the blood of people who have gotten
exposed. And that would really give us a sense of how much low
level exposure perhaps mild disease has been in this
population.
So basically figuring out how many cases we might have missed
by looking for evidence of a past infection that can help us
gauge the overall risk to humans. Picard says, it still
seems that within a herd the virus is primarily spreading in
the process of milking. It could be the virus just keeps doing
that and doesn't end up adapting to spread from human to human.
If we can keep it from infecting other people. But that's
optimistic and not something we can bank on
that NPR health correspondent will stone Thanks. Well, thanks.
Well,
Adam Curry: okay, so how about the admiral? The admiral, the
one on the dress? Rachel Levine. Yes. Admiral Levine this
possibility
John C Dvorak: Yeah, now you just being silly. No, no, not
being silly. Who's gonna take her seriously?
Adam Curry: two humps? Apparently the entire government
does. No one sits and says Yo, dude, stop
John C Dvorak: it. Do it in a dress the way you always
describe it. No one says Hey, Rachel.
Adam Curry: Dude, stop it no one says that in government now they
give him awards. He's a metal
John C Dvorak: Yeah, when we're all he's got a lot of metal get
his metal
Adam Curry: in his case is called fruit salad. John. Hey,
oh, a Oh, all right. Now let's go to the CIA broadcasting
systems now. You know, it's getting serious CBS and it's
amazing because I believe Dr. Celine Gruner. Gout Gunder
Gunder gone gounder I believe she's the one whose husband died
while reporting on the World Cup.
John C Dvorak: I think Oh, really? That's the I mean, I
know the guy who just some guy died suddenly died suddenly the
a collapse or husband?
Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah. Heart attack. Yes. Yes. Which I'm sure
was from chewing Xylitol gum or something. We're gonna be
John C Dvorak: sila tall that'll kill you.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, by the way. A lot of people sent me
messages the design little tall actually did supposedly very
good against the weird viruses and stuff. That's probably why
they want it done and out. It's got
John C Dvorak: some sort of got some sort of anti viral
qualities. It also prevents. It's like it does all kinds of
weird thing. Strange sugar
Adam Curry: prevents tooth decay. All right, yeah, let's
get into it. Because here we go again. We're gonna
Unknown: begin this hour with the latest on a dangerous bird
flu and concerns that this virus has the potential to become Here
you go the P word pandemic. And
Adam Curry: the P word. pandemic. Gail, you're so on
script girl, the P word
Unknown: pandemic. Yikes. Yeah, the h five and one virus has
already spread to dairy cows and a few humans. So far, there have
been outbreaks in livestock and at least 12 states. Four cases
have been reported in humans in threes. Two or three people were
exposed to infected cows and one person to infected poultry. CBS
News Medical contributor Dr. Celine gounder is here.
Hopefully she's gonna make us feel better sort this out phase
Dr. sullied. I don't want to feel here we go again. But I
remember when he first heard about COVID. I'm not comparing
them. It's like if you weren't in China and been to China,
don't worry about it. Bird flu, there was just one case, don't
worry about it. Nothing to see here. And now the numbers seem
to be climbing up. At what point do we start worrying?
Adam Curry: Oh, we're gonna go from status concern to status
worrying?
Unknown: What really concerns us is how do you develop a pandemic
flu, it's where you have in the lab where it always happens. Two
different strains of the virus. So a bird flu and a human flu
mixing, sort of swapping body parts kind of like Frankenstein,
it's when you get the Hold on a second.
Adam Curry: This is not I was not aware of this process.
Franken flu. So we just mix up some bird places to
John C Dvorak: thesis about getting two things at once or
having or being faxed and then getting it and then mutase this
is a this is a I think a lot of people would call it crackpot
theory. But
Adam Curry: there's some this is actual conspiracy theory because
most of
John C Dvorak: the real flu screwball flus come from, from
China, where they're mixing ducks and pigs and pangolins and
bats, Hangul, Enzo and
Adam Curry: pinion on China again. All right. All right. So
but now it's mixing up body parts. So
Unknown: it's where you have two different strains of the virus,
a bird flu and a human flu mixing, sort of swapping body
parts, kind of like Frankenstein. It's when you get
those Frankenstein
John C Dvorak: body parts with someone I don't remember that. I
Adam Curry: know. Dr. Frankenstein went to the great
Frankenstein it
John C Dvorak: was oh, maybe she's talking about the doctor,
not the name of the monster.
Adam Curry: Well, that's a common mistake
Unknown: swapping body parts kind of like Frankenstein. It's
when you get those Frankenstein flus that you get a pandemic,
you have humans, the dairy farm workers who are currently
getting burned. That's
Adam Curry: how you get a pandemic, you mix up some body
parts like Frankenstein, the Franken flu, then you got a
pandemic. So she's describing the lab process here. As far as
I can tell, that you mix this with that get those five
Frankenstein worked in a lab. And
Unknown: it's when you get those Frankenstein flus that you get a
pandemic, you have humans, the dairy farm workers who are
currently getting bird flu, we have regular flu season coming
up in a couple of months. That's when the danger could really
emerge for that kind of pandemic. But just the fact that
they're even using the word pandemic at this stage. They're
concerned, very triggering to
all it is triggering, but imagine six months before COVID.
If I had taken steps, then we could have avoided all I mean,
that was painful for a couple of years there,
Adam Curry: we need to pre flatten the curve. I think I
think we need to get ahead of this. And and we need to have
mailing ballots before the election, just to make sure that
we don't because this is it. This could be a variation of the
script. We've got to shelter in place so that we don't spread
this. At the John, I just can't help thinking but they are
pushing it. They're going to trigger it. We're just missing a
few elements. Okay, so
Unknown: have you heard about bird flu and farmers to most
people? Seems like they're very isolated. Yeah. How quickly how
widely can this spread? Well,
flu is highly infectious. So if we're dealing with a pandemic
flu, then it's generally spread person to person through the
respiratory route. So far, what we're seeing we think is most of
the transmission is occurring through the milk through
equipment or you know, other items that are contaminated with
milk, and then from cow to cow, okay. But we don't have a great
handle on exactly how things are being transmitted. We have some
theories, but without testing enough, it's very hard to hone
in on this is exactly the thing. It's very hard to
Adam Curry: hone it without testing. I think that's that's
the next step. We're going to take Testing, testing, testing
testing, we need to get ahead of this was testing, it's a bonanza
out some friends of mine are in that business. They're so smart.
They made so so they made out on the testing business. They were
testing, they're gonna
John C Dvorak: make out again. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I want a piece of the action. So
Unknown: one of the missteps, or the last pandemic was we perhaps
didn't get out in front of it early enough. What are we doing
now to prepare? So this becomes something we need to worry
about? Good question.
Good question. So how do you incentive? Oh,
Adam Curry: no, that's your cue?
John C Dvorak: That's not a great question.
Unknown: Don't need to worry about that question.
It's a great question. So you know, how do you incentivize
people to get tested? That's really the such situation we're
in right now. So how do you incentivize testing of cows? How
do you incentivize with money testing of milk? How do you
incentivize testing of people with money. So the USDA has a
program a compensation program for the farmers, so that they
have less of a economic hit if there are infected cows on the
farm? So far, that hasn't led to a lot more testing. They only
are required to test if they're moving cows over state borders,
so they could be moving them within the state. There's no
testing requirement. In terms of the farmworkers, a lot of them
are undocumented. And so they don't want to be on any kind of
government roster database, whatever. So unless you kind of
you address their immigration deportation fears, they're
probably not going to want to get tested. Oh,
Adam Curry: well, that's interesting. Oh, that's
John C Dvorak: the switcheroo. That's been what they're saying.
What she's saying is, you know, because they're afraid because
they're on diamond. So let's legalize all the 12 million
immigrants Biden let in and then we won't have a problem that
stopped us in the bud. That's
Adam Curry: interesting. I interrupt this flow of clips for
this clip from lawyer Brad Bernstein or Stein
Unknown: update on Biden's new immigration laws. CBS News is
reporting Biden's gonna make the big announcement Tuesday, June
18, at a big White House ceremony. And here's the
announcement. Anyone who's been in the United States for more
than 10 years if they entered without inspection, and are
married to a US citizen who will be granted a parole in place,
which is a document that will allow them to file an adjustment
of status application to get their green card, their work
permit and Advanced Parole travel permission. In addition,
CBS News is reporting that Biden will announce waivers for people
who are living unlawfully in the United States to obtain h1 B
visas or visas, ie visas and other employment based non
immigrant work visas and we
Adam Curry: have to do it because we need them to be
honest about their bird flu status. Genius.
John C Dvorak: That is tricky. Man y'all so they can vote.
Adam Curry: Of course, and and I have it. No agenda official bird
flu tester, T shirts, hoodies, caps, make it look official,
bird flu testing pan pre pandemic team. Come on, people
work with me here. So are
Unknown: you feeling that if we're not in contact with farm
workers, or farm animals or farm equipment that
drinking raw milk
or drinking raw milk? That we don't have to worry about it? Is
that what you're thinking or?
Well, in the immediate term, and there are ongoing tests,
John C Dvorak: except for a second? Yeah. So do you Has any
one of these journalists actually, actually said the
follower asked the following question of any of these people?
So how many documented cases of somebody getting bird flu from
raw milk? Have you discovered or uncovered or even suspected?
Adam Curry: I have not found any evidence of this question? Which
by the way, might qualify as a great question.
John C Dvorak: Well, it's such an obvious question to me,
because you're as they keep bringing it up. So why does one
of these quote unquote journalists ask the obvious
question, because it's
Adam Curry: given it's a given? It's just a given at this point?
Yeah. Now they've made it a given. But no, given a new mini
series by Korean John Cena, that script, the given could be
concerned that we
Unknown: don't have to worry about it. Is that what you're
thinking or Well,
in the immediate term, and there are ongoing tests of milk, for
example, because depending on how much virus is in the milk
supply, pasteurization may continue to be good enough. If
they not Whoa,
Adam Curry: whoa, pasteurization may not work if there's too much
virus in the milk supply. This is highly unscientific in my
book, pasteurization
John C Dvorak: make it up as you go along people, they get to be
good
Unknown: enough, it may not. And so there's ongoing testing to
make sure is that adequate, but if you do get one of those
Frankenstein flus where you have a combination of a personal and
a human flu, and that's so possible because that's when all
of us really start to get worried.
Adam Curry: get worried, GET WORRIED another t shirt get
worried. I'm making I get worried. Yeah, bird flu is a
good one, get worried bird flu is here. I want to be a part of
the testing unit. Because then you can just have some swabs
walk down the street, an official looking shirt and say,
excuse me. I think you need to be tested. You seem to have you
drink raw milk. Okay. You know, even pasteurization may not
work. So we need to test you it'd be $10 It's on the spot.
John C Dvorak: Does that include the phrase I'd take off your
top?
Adam Curry: Who was that guy was ugly George. When the guy in New
York used to walk around with us in the days of early cable. He
had a whole rig like a satellite dish on his head and a backpack
go up to women on the streets and he was ugly too. He said
yeah, I want to do an interview with you. You're beautiful and
you take them up to his apartment or go to their
apartment with his his space rig. And again to take the top
off. Cable cable was great back in the days of channel deck and
that day, the days of channel J in New York. So there you have
it be prepared because they're going to try and pull something.
Just be on the lookout producers of the no agenda show Be on the
lookout for Johns Hopkins numbers. Be on the lookout for
refrigeration trucks. Be on the lookout for a for a face we need
to face we need a new Fauci. We need one someone who can who
could Corinne you know? Hey, can we put a lab coat on? On the
rear admiral? What's his name? Kirby Rachel Levine how Kirby
can we turn him in or be Kirby's
John C Dvorak: enough of a stooge and a sellout and and a
kind of embarrassment to the Navy and he's deal Yeah,
Adam Curry: he's DoD yeah DoD crank up operation warp speed
too know I mean, we shouldn't be we shouldn't be in the situation
room. We tell the guys we tell these guys how to do it. Well,
John C Dvorak: they're doing it their way.
Adam Curry: Well, hurry up already. These clips are
annoying. We need to get there faster.
John C Dvorak: What else we got here? I got a Gaza update. Let's
get that out of the way. Okay.
Unknown: Gaza
update. Yes. The Israeli military says eight soldiers
died in an explosion in southern Gaza today, the second deadliest
attack on Israeli forces of the war. In Gaza families are
preparing for a bleak eat out ha tomorrow, one of the most
important festivals in the Muslim calendar. It's usually
celebrated with big family meals and gifts for children. But this
year, there's only war, hunger and misery. The holiday marks
the end of the Hodge witch peak today with nearly 2 million
Muslims gathering on a sacred hill in Saudi Arabia for a day
of worship. The hill of mercy is believed to be the site of the
Prophet Muhammad's final speech known as the Farewell Sermon.
Adam Curry: That was more detailed than most other
reports. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: it wasn't too bad and then that but that's all
I've got. I do have some some new segment you introduced last
show was kind of our anti gay news.
Adam Curry: I didn't introduce any anti gay segment.
John C Dvorak: Well, it was seemed like it to me. Oh, so I
have this. I have this clip too. But the U turn. Yes.
Adam Curry: Will play as a great clip is a great clip LA City
Unknown: Council members you go soda Martinez and Nithya ramen
were on hand today to help remove the signs. They say the
no cruising and no U turn signs were put up in the 1990s to
prevent people in the gay community from meeting up with
other gay people. I
was also surprised that these these U turn signs were still up
and at first, you know they seem a little Oh, okay. It's just a
no U turn sign. But when you learn the history of it, and you
realize that these were used to profile gay people. It's so
important that we have these removed the LA
City Council members say the signs were put up after the gay
community began to grow and because there was a gay bar in
that area.
Adam Curry: You know, I'm not sure what this was promoting.
Well, I
John C Dvorak: whatever was promoting I wanted to ask a
question of you. Okay, according to that guy who comes on and
does a little color he says you know I insurance if you look at
the history, the you know, you turn sign was a way of profiling
gays.
Adam Curry: How? Oh, well.
John C Dvorak: I mean, because somebody started and pointed at
the U turn session. Hey, we can make a U turn. No. I mean, well,
how do you it says no U turn. Did you hear you're driving
along
Adam Curry: Cruz Hold on a second. It was because of
cruising because there was a gay bar in the neighborhood and they
didn't want people cruising. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: yeah. So how does it know you turn sign? Profile?
Gays? Oh, it
Adam Curry: doesn't profile them. It just stops. That's what
he said. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. Okay, I understand. Here's my
question. Why was there a six foot trans transvestite? What's
the word?
Unknown: What's the show? Your boy? Yeah,
Adam Curry: you know, the seven foot duty dress on your woman?
Yeah. I keep forgetting the name dude
John C Dvorak: in a dress. Cross.
Adam Curry: From the story. Our story our
John C Dvorak: try drag queen story.
Adam Curry: Queen. Thank you. dreck. RuPaul thanks troll room.
No, yeah, now this guy would not be on RuPaul had no panache. Why
was he there?
John C Dvorak: This color to the? No.
Adam Curry: Because you had no you had the the feminine talking
guy. Yeah, but then the you had this this dude in a wig taken
down the U turn sign why? It was no drag. There was no drag show
there.
John C Dvorak: I find the whole thing to be idiotic. It's
Adam Curry: virtue signaling. And But the worst thing if used
Do you see the video? Just get the clip because I know I saw
the video. Did you see when that guy was talking about the
profiling? On the banner behind him it said baby gay. And I
wonder what that is?
John C Dvorak: Oh, that do you ever seen baby gay? No. There's
a bunch of these gay couples that have been adopted baby. And
they call it they usually refer to as baby gay and they dress
them up in pink and they just do all these gay things with him.
And it's called Baby gay. And I think is I think there was a
book that was written called Baby gay.
Adam Curry: Okay, well, why was there on the banner? It's
because
John C Dvorak: they're so they're so happy about it. This.
This was a promotional idea. But
Adam Curry: we don't have enough information. This sign takedown
was some promotion of something and it didn't work clearly.
Because we don't know what the promotion was for. There was a
whole banner a backdrop there was all kinds of stuff. mangry
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we're just shooting it. We're just
shooting.
Adam Curry: Shooting Blanks over here. Australia is often ahead
of things we can take the temperature of what's coming to
the rest of the world by seeing what happens in Australia. Would
you agree that's a reasonably fair statement. I think
John C Dvorak: I would, I'm actually gonna argue with
because you're you have a point to make. But I will say that I
think a lot of is just rank experimentation to see how far
people can be pushed. Well, bingo.
Adam Curry: You nailed it. Your buddy from Australia, Elmer
Fudd. You introduce them to us. Elmer. Yes. Elmer Fudd. Peter
Dunstan.
John C Dvorak: Premier. Well, he's run by Minister. He's a
Prime Minister. Prime minister. Yes.
Adam Curry: Well, I guess there's elections coming up. And
he is now saying, If you elect me, I will make a law that
children under 16 cannot go on social media. This is this is
the trend. And of course, what I'm looking for in this trend is
how do we actually police it? Cuz you can't just trust
parents? That's no good. And children belong to the state. So
how do they police it and the interesting thing about this is
that his opposition in this election is all for it. So
John C Dvorak: I know the Australians are weird that way.
Somebody comes up with a crackpot idea on the one side of
the aisle and the other side. Yeah. At work, it doesn't happen
in this country never has here's a super clip,
Unknown: both major political parties throw their support
behind the idea of banning under 16 year olds from social media.
The coalition has been out in the past few days, saying it
would do this within its first 100
days of a future coalition government. Mr. Dutton is
promising to roll out an age verification system across the
country. just
applaud Peter Dutton for taking such a firm stand on this tell
us how your system would work?
Well, I think it's best to look at it from a parent's
perspective. And parents want some rules in place. And I think
we say to people who are really having a tough conversation with
their kids at the moment that it's going to be easier if we
have a law that says in the conversation when you're talking
to your kids that you can't be on these platforms until you're
16. That's the law.
I for one want to see our children live safely. We've got
all kinds of rules around what around what can be printed what
can be on television at certain at certain times of the day. A
movie ratings. And yet social media is a free for all.
Here's the Prime Minister speaking on this issue
yesterday,
social media is having a negative impact on young people.
I want people to spend more time on the footy field or the
Netball court than they're spending on their phones.
I just think given the exposure that we see young kids getting
now online, it's just it's a huge and confronting world out
there.
And a ban if it can be effective, is a good way to go.
Because companies need to be pressured. And if we do nothing,
the red lines continue to be crossed. I couldn't agree with
you more, I think most people would look at
sounds great. I think every parent around the country will
be nodding 30 And he's young. But you could also argue a 16 is
too. How do you put an age on it? That's
a wonderful question. Because if I had it my way to be Christians
remain over how it would be enforced Prime Minister has been
pointing to work that's already underway on age verification
techniques, we
have a huge capacity here within our system, the technology is
much better than it was five years ago. One is
kind of a digital token that you would acquire by having ID that
would prove your birthdate that you could then take to social
media platforms to prove your age. And now there is
facial recognition to determine somebody's age is appropriate.
But you're simply
looking at your phone screen or upload a video selfie of
yourself and algorithm can essentially work out how old you
are. Look, I
reckon they can do it. I reckon they can do it in the cancer
because they know exactly what we're talking about. They know
what products to sell to whoever they get, they send a band all
sorts of information streams they don't like so they can't
tell me that their technology isn't up to doing this. I think
there are a number of ways in which we do it. Is it perfect?
No. But is there an option to do nothing, I just don't think that
is a responsible course of action. I hope that this is an
issue where the Prime Minister and I can work together. And if
we show that bipartisanship, I think it sends a very clear
message to the companies as well. And we're serious about
this.
Adam Curry: You're absolutely right, Jeremy, they just push
crazy things. See what people will accept. And I think this is
going to happen.
John C Dvorak: Well with Elmer Fudd, that guy he was when he
first got in, he went into a big deal made a big deal about memes
that involved him. Yep. And of course, that triggered everybody
to do one and he
Adam Curry: has the CIA, CIA lady.
John C Dvorak: CIA spook. Yeah. And so the next thing you know,
this is this country's out of control. It's no sweat off my
balls. I'm
Unknown: gonna show my school by donating to no agenda. Imagine
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Adam Curry: Yeah, look, the affiliates run
John C Dvorak: a little bit. Get a rap to show I mean, we have a
lot of stuff to talk about. But you do but we're
Adam Curry: wrapping it and it's 1130 here and I still have to
find dinner, which I'm sure will be
John C Dvorak: nice. You should get room service. Ah, room
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Adam Curry: You have I think you might have the bird flu you've
been blowing your nose throughout the whole show. Hey,
no Well you're the one doing it
John C Dvorak: bird flu I haven't got conjunctivitis so I
don't have it. So something else. Okay, well, the infected
sinus it's very
Adam Curry: unprofessional is what it is.
John C Dvorak: I wasn't able to I was in the other room you
Adam Curry: have no idea how loud that comes through. Every
single time you you blow your nose at the troll room is
counting as they have to take a drink. They're hammered now.
John C Dvorak: Twice.
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melons Meetup is underway at Evergreen brewing in Camp Hill,
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Unknown: you want to go hang out with all day. You will be
triggered. You will be
Adam Curry: is like I think I might have a winner here. I have
a couple of ISOs for end of show. Shall I go first?
John C Dvorak: Yes, you may as well.
Unknown: Right back at your buddy. Huh? No. Okay. Hey, stop
s talking this country.
Adam Curry: I was muddled money. Couldn't even hear that one.
Yeah. I think this would be the one
Unknown: hot damn I love you guys.
Adam Curry: Come on. How's that?
John C Dvorak: Well, you oversold it. Let's put it that
way. Okay. All right.
Adam Curry: What's your I
John C Dvorak: mean, bear in mind, but I have the mindset
Claggett the classic. I gotta thank you.
Unknown: Thank you. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah,
true. I got it true. It's true.
Adam Curry: I think mine is definitely better.
John C Dvorak: I think that my thank yous better than your
beer.
Adam Curry: I love you guys. Damn, I love you guys. And it's
true. No, I think this hot damn, I
Unknown: love you guys.
Adam Curry: Come on. That's a it's a he loves who? Who, who?
What? Who?
John C Dvorak: Okay, okay, you can have it but I'm like It's
under advisement under advisement
Unknown: just JC
Adam Curry: and sometimes Adam time for the tip of the week
it's getting pretty popular. People are worried you won't be
able to keep up the pace but we are very excited why
John C Dvorak: can keep up the pace? That's what she said and
okay I got a recommended website to go buy stuff had to compete
with Amazon I should have known about this I don't understand
why I didn't. They have everything you want to find a
shirt. Do you want underwear? Do you want a sports car? Do you
want a robot lady?
Adam Curry: Hold on This sounds too good to be true.
John C Dvorak: Ollie Express or a li expresses it's a new Ali
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about it. Oh, you can find anything and some of the
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category of every sort of thing, including the bionic beauty
robot the Oriental elegant simulation what robot she's
$6,900 But most
Adam Curry: stuff is like you priced or is it best price
though is the best price it's gotta
John C Dvorak: be but meanwhile shirt $6 There's this you were
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probably still inexpensive. But Ollie express it free shipping
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Unknown: And now John C. Dvorak with the tip of the day. Wow.
Adam Curry: A li Express Ali Express ala Express.
John C Dvorak: Well, that is nuts as you'll go nuts.
Adam Curry: That's a great tip of the day, John, thank you. I
can't wait to go nuts on AliExpress and that wraps up
episode 1669 of the best podcast in the universe. Coming up next
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Unknown: a favorite on the screen
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John C Dvorak: was that compete with bowl after bowl?
Adam Curry: I not on the stream. It doesn't. They're never on at
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Unknown: Remember when he said the United States can be summed
up in one word
Americans a nation that can be defined in the Civil War as
totally lost see no so
as far as Joe Biden speaking gaps this might beat that
because he knows so long as you
think about I thought he was scanning 40
jobs without the DOP. Let's get his word you started
doing Ella Fitzgerald little scat or you put him
I have a question for conspiracy theorists if Adrenochrome was
real. How come it ain't helping Biden former sentence
foothills of the Himalayas?
Well he didn't take his shot today
it's like having toilet paper in your shoe and he told him no one
tells you not to think about it.
This might beat that.
So you know last
longer. What you're seeing is instead of that
America is a nation defined in the civil word.
Let's get to the devil orgy.
I got him in scatting doing Ella Fitzgerald well scat while he
didn't take a shot today,
do you know see No, so long as America is a nation that can be
defined in the Civil War? How you put him
John C Dvorak: thinking of putting up a porn site? Yeah,
no,
Adam Curry: no, yes. Yeah, no, you know what? Yes. What
happened? In my head
Unknown: Is everyone here
the casting is applied to every listener and everything at bars
to like every viewer whatever it is most respected and you've
been doing this a long time and you're like a clean in this
space
is no joke
I'm thinking of putting up a porn site it is I couldn't open
it just popped in there one just
John C Dvorak: showed up in my head
Unknown: She's a queen in this space. In this space is hard.
Adam Curry: It's a grind John. We just make it look easy
Unknown: MoPhO boruch.org/in
What damn I love you guys.