Adam Curry: I'm washed up. Adam curry Jhansi Devorah tonight
2024 This Year Award winning give on nation media
assassination episode 1667 This is no agenda, defying climate
despair and broadcasting live from the heart of the Titans. No
country here in FEMA Region number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry.
John C Dvorak: If another Silicon Valley where we all
agree that Eric Sean on Fox is annoying. I'm John C double x.
Adam Curry: Kill Eric who?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's been 25 years. Eric
Adam Curry: Shawn. Yeah. I've never even heard of this guy.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he shows up a lot more than you used to. But
he's been there forever. He's he is the Trump hitman. And he if
you see a picture of me he looks like an IRS agent who never got
promoted.
Adam Curry: I honestly, I don't have cable anymore. though.
Yeah, that kind of ruins it, doesn't it?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, again, we get Fox. Well, I
Adam Curry: have YouTube TV. So
John C Dvorak: I guess I could watch the YouTube TV has Fox I
know. But I only have
Adam Curry: that, you know, for a backup in case there's
something I really need to watch. Now ever since Tucker
left the fox became uninteresting. I think that's
when it all went downhill. And they just became, you know,
lame. They were already kind of lame. But isn't that all that we
ever watched? Did you watch Do you watch Fox and Friends in the
morning?
John C Dvorak: No, I watch if I've watched Fox I watched gut
failed. No.
Adam Curry: Of course you do. Yeah. That's good. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: And, and then I might watch the five. Oh, maybe
I think
Adam Curry: also ever since Jesse waters took over like the
prime time spot is like, just done. It's like, he's goofy.
John C Dvorak: He is goofy. He's
Adam Curry: goofy. You know, at least if Tucker at least we
could watch and say let's see if he has what we had three days
ago. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: A month ago.
Adam Curry: Now he did the high start to catch up. It started to
become like Sunday and then Monday are
John C Dvorak: catching up. They had to get rid of him. Yeah,
exactly.
Adam Curry: He got too close to the truth. Exactly right. Well,
as we predicted, as we predicted on non Thursday, the heat dome
is here who's to
Unknown: coast tonight scorching triple digit temperatures from
California to Florida, across the West. 50 million people
under a heat dome all notice as carbon dioxide is accumulating
faster than ever in the atmosphere. Notice
Adam Curry: that has nothing to do with the heat dome. But no,
it just says that we'll just associated we're
John C Dvorak: gonna get this report where you throw carbon
dioxide it's got nothing to do with this MBC baby
Unknown: site is accumulating faster. All this as Noah says
under a heat dome. All this as notice as carbon dioxide is
accumulating faster than ever in the atmosphere acting like a
blanket over the earth and warming the planet. The EU finds
globally the last 12 months have each been the hottest ever on
record.
We need to very seriously people are dying. People are
dying mass
John C Dvorak: cold here. I mean, stop the presses. It's
cold and right now to temperatures throughout cold.
kinda cold, but it's 56 or so. And the heat dome was here for
two days. The fog rolled and it's been colder this year than
it was last year. Another record breaking cold for the Bay Area.
Who are we kidding?
Adam Curry: I love how riled up you get over this because they
lie. No, they're not lying. They're saying there's a heat
dome. And then she says all this as Noah says there's more carbon
dioxide has nothing to do with the heat dome. But then she
brings it brings in the blanket. The blanket is killing people.
But that's NBC. How about the elitist voices from NPR?
Unknown: The heat dome is a big pocket of high pressure that
locks in heat. Okay,
what is the connection between climate change generally and
this specific heat event?
Adam Curry: This is Didn't you want to know this once you would
you interest there's never
John C Dvorak: been a high pressure system in the history
of mankind until climate change. No
Adam Curry: 1936 We had a very big No way. Yes, it was one of
the most severe heat waves that took place in the middle of the
Great Depression and the Dust Bowl 1936 1936 when we didn't
have any climate change back then or maybe we did I don't
know. But it was the same temperature but now now this
high pressure system which as far as I can tell has nothing to
do with carbon dioxide has everything to do with carbon
dioxide According to NPR
Unknown: they're intimately connected.
Adam Curry: intimately connected there they haven't they making
love out there on the beach general Li and
Unknown: this specific heat event
they're intimately connected save, you know, humans burn oil
and gas and coal it releases planning.
Adam Curry: Are we going to get through anything today? Are you
just one Oh,
John C Dvorak: he's just one of those sorts of clips.
Adam Curry: This is good stuff, man. This is why we're here so
people can feel good about knowing that they're being
bullcrap till
Unknown: it releases carbon dioxide and other planet warming
gases, those gases, they accumulate in the atmosphere
over the course of decades and all that excess gas traps heat
and that directly leads to higher temperatures worldwide
directly, it helps drive these extreme heat events, temperature
get even
Adam Curry: she's kind of waffling around, like okay, so
carbon dioxide, according to her heats up the air, but has
nothing to do with the heat dome directly
Unknown: leads to higher temperatures worldwide. It helps
drive these extreme heat events, where the temperature gets
really high and sees really high like what we're seeing. And in
fact, scientists can say that the most intense heat waves that
are happening right now would be literally impossible without
human caused climate change. So
John C Dvorak: literally impossible, literally. That that
does include the Dust Bowl, literally impossible without
scorched the earth and resulted in everyone from Oklahoma moving
into California and 30s not Texas, because they're part of a
worldwide depression. Yeah, nothing like that. No, no, no,
nothing
Adam Curry: like that. literally impossible.
Unknown: It's a really close connection.
Our news here is a really close connection. Oh, lady that carbon
dioxide levels are hitting a record. Many people who follow
this are aware that the United States has been cutting its
greenhouse gas emissions. How does that work?
Adam Curry: Yeah, what
Unknown: states has been cutting its greenhouse gas emissions.
Yeah,
yeah, that didn't happen. That's but yeah, quite small. This was
last year and two years before that. The US emissions actually
increased each year. So the bigger picture here is that, you
know, one, the US decrease in emissions is not that big, and
to a lot of other countries are not cutting their emissions. So
altogether, it's definitely not enough on its own to reverse
this trend of co2 accumulation.
There is the question of the rest of the world which is the
majority of the world's people and the majority of the economic
activity
Adam Curry: No, no, no, we've got to kill the cows you got to
eat bugs? Or is there something else we can do? Rebecca Hirscher
Unknown: so how is the carbon dioxide level measured? Well,
scientists continuously measure co2 in the atmosphere and every
single year the peaks
Adam Curry: how how he said how co2 amount sets
Unknown: a new record because humans keep adding more co2
faster than it can break down this has been happening since
scientists started measurements in 1958. And because scientists
are able to use other methods as well to estimate how much co2
was oh it's an
Adam Curry: estimation he sees she's She didn't answer the
question. He said how do they do it? Well, they got other methods
they estimate models perhaps
Unknown: and because scientists are able to use other methods as
well to estimate how much
Adam Curry: I don't know it shows other other than what is
NPR man
Unknown: estimated how much co2 was in the atmosphere going back
millennia? We can actually say with confidence that there's
more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere now than there has
been in millions of years. Millions
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
Adam Curry: The dinosaurs had what 10 times as much carbon
dioxide so they could actually survive millions
John C Dvorak: wasn't for the dinosaurs benefit for for plants
you have that much carbon dioxide plants go nuts. You need
big giant plants for the dinosaur
Adam Curry: to eat. Yes, that's why yes, giant
Unknown: then there has been even this guy is going millions
millions of years and
millions and millions of years. Okay, so how high is this
number?
Well, the exact number is 426.9 parts per million of co2 in the
atmosphere. That may not sound like a lot parts per million.
But the earth is really really like a lot as point.
John C Dvorak: Oh 4% Are you kidding me? Yes,
Adam Curry: of which the US is what are we responsible? 30% of
that? Oh point 4% I
John C Dvorak: don't know I brought or No, I 20%. But there
was just a make
Unknown: per million. But the earth is really really sensitive
to changes in the atmosphere. A little bit of extra co2 chops, a
lot of heat, but really sticks out is that this number is
significantly higher than last year. It was a really, really
big jump really, really, June the atmosphere is actually
accelerating. Rebecca
thanks for the update. Really appreciate it.
Thanks so much. Really.
Adam Curry: Here's Rebecca Hirsch bullshit, massive bull
crap mass which
John C Dvorak: the problem with this debt clip and everything
else that you've been hearing is that the clip I have? Oh, this
is the problem a which I find to be very distressing. We haven't
talked about this too much. It does come up in the
conversation. Yes, but this is the clip about The psychological
effects this is typical, the psychological effects of lying
to the public about all this stuff in a negative way, this is
the micro climate effects on children.
Unknown: A child born today will live an entire life shaped by
climate change. But a new report in the journal The Lancet, finds
that children may not be getting due consideration in a country's
climate adaptation policies and peers Alejandra Varuna has more.
Most countries in the world now have written plans for how to
deal with climate change. But when a team of researchers
looked at 160 of them, they found a notable gap. About a
quarter didn't have any policy goals specifically aimed at
helping and protecting children. And none had any plans to
address the growing problem of climate related anxiety amongst
young people. Another recent analysis found that nearly 60%
of kids surveyed worldwide were very or extremely worried about
climate change. The researchers suggest getting kids directly
involved in climate policy decisions since it's their lives
that will be most affected.
Adam Curry: Oh, you let the kids get involved? Yeah, this I think
the climate change PR company has been working because Time
magazine, or time.com, I should say. Also had quite the article
they only they call it climate despair.
John C Dvorak: Yes, that's what the kids are experiencing
climate despair. How did they get this way? Of course, from
the from the teachers who are scientists, and the other idiots
that are ruining their lives. So
Adam Curry: the time starts off with forget climate anxiety,
many people are either in flat out climate despair, hands up
trolls, if you're in climate despair, let me see all the
hands. According to this article, two thirds of Americans
65% report being worried about global warming, which of course
we know every single poll puts it at the bottom. They're like,
how about the economy? Good
John C Dvorak: point about all these polls do come out during
the election periods and climate change is not up there.
Adam Curry: If the threat is existential, is there value in
sorting out how you feel about it? The very first step is full
validation, says Lesley Davenport, a climate psychology
educator, oh boy, and author of books including emotional
resilience in the era of climate change, a clinicians guide, and
she has seven handy tips. As it says here climate aware
therapists here share their most effective coping strategy from
going from overwhelmed to empowered Are you interested in
hearing some tips on how to
John C Dvorak: yes and no?
Adam Curry: What's the no part
John C Dvorak: is that this is a terrible thing to be discussing.
But we I think you should at least roll out these fabulous
tips and I'm sure this should be at the top of everyone's list of
things to do. Okay,
Adam Curry: first of all, top of the list talk about it. Oh,
John C Dvorak: that's what we're doing. We're number one. Yes,
Adam Curry: climate change tends to get the religion and politics
treatment people avoid talking about it. Join the don't here's
here's, here's, here's part of this tip is join a climate cafe.
Hello, is there join a climate Cafe these are discussed
John C Dvorak: with the hills a climate Cafe these
Adam Curry: these are discussion spaces, both online and in
person where people can talk freely about their fears and
other feelings related to climate change
John C Dvorak: is like sensitivity training.
Adam Curry: I think all I know is in this encounter group. This
may be as popular as the internet cafes of the of the
early 90s. Get yourself a climate cafe. Or you could shot
change the good grief network, which is a peer support group
that follows a 10 step approach
John C Dvorak: to Oh, we've gone from seven to 10
Adam Curry: No, no, no, this is we're still number one. Number
two is use your connections. Use your connections because you
know connection
John C Dvorak: that it has connections protection, and it
will save us from climate change. Is that what they said?
Well, you have connections you want to have climate change.
What are they talking about? Research
Adam Curry: suggests that the lonelier and more socially
isolated someone feels the higher their levels of climate
distress. So freely,
John C Dvorak: it seems to me somebody's completely out of the
loop. They won't even know about this.
Adam Curry: You've got to find your people, which is of course
no agenda meetups.com We're so on. We've got number one and
number two. You could also join local land restoration efforts.
Get involved with involved with community gardening.
John C Dvorak: Put a garden in your backyard. Oh wait, these
are all apartment dwellers who we're talking about who are all
into this because they can't afford a house because they're
sitting around fretting about climate changes that are doing
some work. Number
Adam Curry: three, analyze your carbon footprint. This will help
some people cope with climate distress by distancing
themselves from the problem, they ignore it hoping it will
just go away. It's more effective to take the energy of
all those emotions and redirect them into constructive action.
You can use an online calculator to track your carbon footprint,
you'll feel better about yourself.
John C Dvorak: That would assess Yes, yes. What
Adam Curry: about cutting co2 emissions by taking the train
instead of an airplane? Be honest with yourself. Number
three on the list, share your
John C Dvorak: London a calculation of a train bus to
build and operate in terms of carbon footprint compared to a
plane. I
Adam Curry: just love doing these with you, you know, God
felt should be ashamed of himself. He hasn't had you on
the show yet. Awesome. Number three, share your views. This is
no time for humility. Make sure everyone around you noticed that
you're going to combat climate change. If you're surrounded by
people,
John C Dvorak: wow, that's a good one.
Adam Curry: To wear the t shirt. If you're surrounded by people
who don't appear to prioritize the environment as much as you
do lead by example. Rather than trying to change their minds,
grow fruits and vegetables, share them with your neighbors.
John C Dvorak: It's a good idea.
Adam Curry: We're on to the next point make it a family affair.
This is how you really get to the kids. Research suggests that
climate change is especially affecting young people's mental
health. If your kids are coming to you with concerns, slap them
upside the head, tell them to knock it off. Oh wait. That's
not what it says. If your kids are coming to you with concerns,
listen and validate them. Then get imaginative about your home
how your whole family can take action together. Can
John C Dvorak: you imagine this? What you just described?
Actually, somebody doing this What's slapping the kid worried
sick as he's just got out of school. He's worried sick. He's
fretting. He's was hand wringing he or she hand wringing crying
perhaps about the climate? And then you're going to validate
this? Yeah. Oh,
Adam Curry: yeah. This is what you do. This is what you do. Get
artsy is the next one on the list? Yes. Making art can help
people regulate and work through their emotions. You're doing
pattern repetitive movements and getting into a flow state. Tell
them to code. It's calming.
John C Dvorak: Learn to code calming. Learn
Adam Curry: to get into the flow state of coding. You can use
colors, shapes and lines to express how you're feeling.
John C Dvorak: Really? Yes, final
Adam Curry: one on the list. Savor time outside. Yes.
spending time outside in green spaces will benefit your well
being. love and grief are two sides of the same coin. Be Yes.
So there's some kind of some kind of PR to the end of the
show could have been our tip. No, I got it's my turn for the
tip of the day. So I got a tip of the day. Oh, I have
John C Dvorak: a tip. No, don't do go to Tim. No, no link tip.
Adam Curry: No. You said it was my turn to do the tip. You made
this. Why'd you
John C Dvorak: have to start doing Yes. I didn't quite say
that. But it's fine you if you have a
Adam Curry: tip. Alright, we'll both do a tip at the end of the
show. It'll be dueling Tip of the day, but only only the tip.
John C Dvorak: I like dueling Tip of the Day. All right, we'll
Adam Curry: do Duolingo and then we should
John C Dvorak: do a vote off.
Adam Curry: Okay, sounds good. Speaking of traumatizing
terrorizing your kids, there is some actual good news. Good
news. And this comes from of course, you're not going to hear
much about it. They had a press conference and well, there was a
little clip somewhere but that was about it. The American
College of Pediatrics came out with a press conference. This
was this was a little bit like the were the doctors during
COVID who went on the steps of the Senate remember then they
all had the lab coats on
John C Dvorak: I'm trying to think of what they were called
Adam Curry: yeah that a kind of good name is like doctors cute
name Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Doctors for doctors, real doctors. Yeah
Adam Curry: real with real doctors.
John C Dvorak: Actual doctors line we
Adam Curry: have the frontline the frontline doctors,
John C Dvorak: Frontline, frontline something something,
whatever. So it's kind
Adam Curry: of similar. They have a woman spokesperson.
Everyone has their lab coats on that did the guy emblems you
know, they look official. They are official. They've released a
whole lot of survey. Data and here's what they had to say.
Unknown: And we have serious concerns about the physical and
mental health effects of the current protocols promoted for
the care of children and adolescents in the United States
who expressed discomfort with their biological sex. This
declaration was authored by the American College of
Pediatricians. But really it was developed from the expertise of
hundreds of doctors, researchers and other health care workers
and leaders, who for years have been sounding the alarm on the
harmful protocols that continue to be promoted by the medical
organizations in the United States goals. Despite recent
revelations from the leaked W path files, and the recent
release of the final report from the cast review, these medical
organizations have not changed course. So we are calling on
these medical organizations of the United States, including the
American Academy of Pediatrics, The Endocrine Society, the
pediatric Endocrine Society, the American Medical Association,
the American Psychological Association, and the American
Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry to follow the science
and their European colleagues. And immediately stop the
promotion of social affirmation, puberty blockers, cross sex
hormones and surgeries for certain for children and
adolescents who experience distress over their biological
sex. In our declaration, we affirm that sex is a dimorphic
innate trait defined in relation to an organism's biological role
in reproduction, male and female. This genetic signature
is present in every nucleated somatic cell in the body, and is
not altered by drugs or surgical interventions. Consideration of
these innate differences is critical to the practice of good
medicine, and to the development of sound policy for children and
adults alike. Medical Decision Making should be based upon an
individual's biological sex, it should respect biological
reality and the dignity of the person by compassionately
addressing the whole person. We are here to find the claims made
by these medical organizations in the US that those of us who
are concerned are a minority, and that their protocols are
consensus. They are not consensus, and we are speaking
in a loud unified voice Enough,
Adam Curry: enough. Amen.
Unknown: Amen to that. Enough,
John C Dvorak: I saw this. Did you see at the same time this
was going on there? Was that weird? a drag queen, female or
guide or what it was at the Texas Democrat convention? Oh,
yeah. Yeah, pretty much saying the exact same opposite. This is
hopeless. The problem is the way I see it, yeah. With people like
Kaiser Foundation and all these health organizations is that
this is a moneymaker bonanza. It's a bonanza. And so what if
the kids are scarred for life or they commit suicide three years
later? Who cares? Their money to be made from these processes is
too much. And then these people that are involved with this
group here that you're just played, will all be rebuked? The
trying to break us there.
Adam Curry: At the same time, what I found a little maybe even
more interesting is that the covenant school Tennessee
shooter Audrey Hale, they have they recovered a journal, the
Tennessee star, reprinted pieces of it. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that before just to preface what you're gonna
say, we had one of the police doing that investigation,
contact us and we played it, or I discussed this or read from
this note, and we discussed it, he had already seen the entire
thing. And it was horrendous. Well,
Adam Curry: the part that is interesting, these are these so
this is not the manifesto, but this is part of this child's
journal. And I'll just quote from the piece here later Hale
wrote, I will be of no use of love for any girl if I don't
have what they need a boy's body a male gender. Next to these
remarks, hail illustrated the words everything hurts, which
she used repeatedly throughout the journal. While the source of
hails purported discomfort is unclear, mosquitoes must
musculoskeletal pain is a possible side effect of
medication that was prescribed to hell by staff at the
Vanderbilt University Medical Center, of course, but who knows
what that was. But in addition to this pain, the National
Institutes of Health explains the side effects of that
medication. The anti anxiety drug buce pirone include
abnormal dreams, outbursts of anger, tremors and physical
weakness. Hail was additionally prescribed. S Khatallah pram,
better known as Lexapro and Medical News Today explains that
using the depression drug with busick prone could could quote
increase the risk of the side effects, which is outbursts of
anger, etc. Stop putting kids on these drugs. Let's start with
that. And
John C Dvorak: that's all Oh, that's no good. It's costing us
money.
Adam Curry: We got to boots. Did you see the email from our I
asked him if I could read some of this from our producer who
was in the testing industrial complex during COVID. Speaking
of money, the Bonanza that it was, these was a very long
email. I don't know if you read it. I didn't see it. He says the
company I work for had the contracts to test about 225,000
students and staff on a weekly basis. This was the Los Angeles
United school district provide a unified and the contracts to
test half of the LAUSD for one school year was how much you
think that was $20 million $750 million.
John C Dvorak: I'm a little low.
Adam Curry: Just a tad. Another company had the contract to test
the other half. When it started, we had 800 health care workers
flown in, living in hotel rooms in and around Los Angeles
getting $87 Per Diem so each day you get 87 bucks to do stuff
with at the time we were the largest US customer for Hertz
rent a car with nearly 500 vehicles. Eventually to help the
economy. We transition to all local employees hired as
temporary W tos. At the end we had 1200 employees on the
project. The lab we contracted with was in Oakland, California.
So twice a day Monday through Friday. Samples were flown from
Van Nuys Airport up to Oakland by a contracted company using
their own aircraft. And then he goes on to say about he says
working with the LAUSD was a nightmare as you can imagine the
DEI bullshit was off the charts. Both the LAUSD and company I
worked for suffered mightily from the incompetence inherent
to dei literal effing idiots toxic, paranoid narcissists.
When no Biden's vaccine mandate came down, their true fastest
nature was exposed, exposed, I had to fire people who did not
want the poison Vax because LAUSD did not want the unclean
in their schools. And then, our boots on the ground producer has
his own confession, he says, I know I will burn in hell for
what I did, which I am ashamed to admit I did out of greed,
having gorgeous, I love that he's no, you will not bother
you. And I'm praying for you. Having never made a lot of
money, and in the previous 10 years living outside the normal
financial system, and only making about $24,000 a year I'm
ashamed to say the temptation of $250,000 a year was too much to
withstand. I knew all about the Nuremberg Code, but on every
occasion I attempted to discuss with my superiors, I was
rebuffed, I still have a lump on my head from banging it against
the wall in frustration on an hourly basis. Any attempt to
improve operations or efficiency had to be measured against the
potential loss of revenue. So the more inefficient and the
more people required, the more money make my company made.
Remember that contract was for up to $750 million? No way in
hell, they would leave money on the table. Ah. So that that
that's it. That's really what what is happening with these
trans kids? That's what's happening with the entire
pharmaceutical system, the system, the system itself, the
system? And yes, of course, there are good doctors. I got a
sweet note from one of our doctors said we're not all
horrible. No, of course you're not with generalizing.
John C Dvorak: It is not the doctors fault. Usually. It's the
protocols. Yes, it Yeah, the doctors have to go especially if
they're working for some organization. They have to
follow the protocols. They're just simply get fired. And
meanwhile I ever met in and hydroxy, Chloroquine and all
that stuff was thrown out the door because No, no, no, it's
not at a protocol you can't do and you couldn't get
Adam Curry: emergency use authorization if there was
something that could fix the problem.
Unknown: And then we come to the VAX this morning chiefs
defensive end Vijay Thompson recovering following a medical
emergency sources say the 25 year old Thompson appeared to
suffer a seizure and go into cardiac arrest during a team
meeting Thursday
while I'm arrowhead drive cardiac arrest. There's a doctor
on site and CPR is in progress at this time.
Team doctors and trainers are working to stabilize the young
player before an ambulance rushed him to a nearby hospital.
The Chiefs canceling practice, but not offering any official
comment. How critical are those first few minutes post cardiac
event?
The first few minutes and even seconds are critical. We know
that every second that the heart is not pumping blood as it
should to the brain and the rest of the body. The probability of
having a good outcome declines precipitously as
a rookie defensive lineman Thompson played in one game last
season showing promise on a team that took home yet another Super
Bowl championship. His college coach writing prayers up for SFA
football zone. BJ Thompson, thankful for the Chiefs medical
team, as the rapid and excellent response made the difference.
Adam Curry: Now you've been following sports ball for many,
many years. Have you ever seen this many cardiac arrest round
John C Dvorak: is happening commonly. And it's the whole sub
stack column dedicated to this. I think I sent you one of these
ones. Everyone's will send you one because it has too many
people in it. The last time he did one, I can't remember this.
I have to hit the nail. You got it? Yeah, tips, put it in the
tips. Yeah. But it's the guy follows all this. And he
recently just did all these celebrities that that were rock
and roll musicians that are starting to drop left and right.
are having these heart attacks just out of the blue. And it's
it's pretty well, I have a series of clips. Peter
McCullough coming up later, can
Adam Curry: I play the payoff to this one, and then we can
actually go to McCool. Actually, I
John C Dvorak: got I have an inner it's something in the
middle. That should probably be played. Okay. All right. Yeah, I
want to pay off. What's the payoff?
Adam Curry: Oh, what do you want to do you want to play? You're
in the middle clip, or do you want me? No, no, no,
John C Dvorak: the enemy video clip is light. Well, the
question
Adam Curry: that the experts are stumped. They cannot. They
John C Dvorak: they're always stumped. They cannot figure out
their experts. By the way. They know everything about
everything. But for some reason this situation stumps them they
don't
Adam Curry: understand the the cancers. They don't understand
the cardiac. Right turbo cancer turbo, can't they aggressive
turbo? Can they just don't have that? Is it something in the
food? Is it is it something environmental? Is it stress?
transfats.
John C Dvorak: Here's the latest
Unknown: we turn to a health alert now and it's released
today raising concerns about popular sugar substitute. Dan
Thompson is here and what did we learn
in Leicester. This is the latest study to find a link between a
common sugar substitute and cardiovascular issues. Xylitol
is in all sorts of free gum candy and baked goods, even
toothpaste.
Adam Curry: So now it's the Xylitol that's doing it.
John C Dvorak: And by the way, xylitol has been in the public
domain as a sweetener for digestible sweetener, basically,
that that sugary for I remember first hearing about it 30 years
ago, where all the heart attacks then.
Adam Curry: Well, Newsweek reports the latest because these
pilots all I mean, people can't remember the name even No, no.
Energy drinks are linked to sudden cardiac arrest. There it
is. Oh, that's new on the scene. The researchers at the Mayo
Clinic have warned that drinking these beverages, which often
contain high amounts of caffeine and other stimulating
ingredients, oh, no dangerous for people with genetic heart
disease. Yes. So they studied they examined 144 sudden cardiac
arrest survivors, seven patients within this group had consumed
one or more energy drinks near to the time of the cardiac
event. So you could drink a monster and keel over dead. When
are we going to wake up as a civilization
John C Dvorak: but you're waking up? You're like, oh, no, no,
Adam Curry: no. Clearly waking
John C Dvorak: up doesn't know. Too much money, money, money,
money.
Adam Curry: There's 900,000 people who listen to this show.
They're waking up. They're like, hey, wait a minute, I'm awake.
John C Dvorak: Well, 900,000 that's one in 300 with less than
one and three. Everybody
Adam Curry: tells 300 Friends, the whole country like the rich
John C Dvorak: wish they would.
Adam Curry: All right, you're up to bat. Okay,
John C Dvorak: well, here this is a little break in the action.
But before we get to some more serious stuff. This is
interesting, because this is an ask Adam.
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a second. Oh, I wasn't I was not
prepared. All right. You haven't asked Adam now. You mean, you're
doing these and I wasn't quite you know, we haven't been
John C Dvorak: quite get it. You haven't already? I didn't
Adam Curry: answer the question. The answer the question.
John C Dvorak: I got to ask Adam question. Yes.
Adam Curry: Do I play it now? Yeah. Okay.
Unknown: One of the country's most famous doctors is getting
some long awaited recognition.
John C Dvorak: Okay, what are the most famous now you know who
this is? It
Adam Curry: can only be one of two people can only be one of
two people.
John C Dvorak: And this is this over here. This is NPR so it's
very important. Yes. Okay, who are the one? Who do you think it
might? Okay, I'll give you the two. Are they?
Adam Curry: Okay? It's either the truly most important doctor
in Oh, I'm sorry. There's four. I'll give them to you in order
of appearance one Dr. Peter McCullough two Dr. Drew three,
Dr. Fauci and for Dr. Bill Jaiden
John C Dvorak: well, you're damn close.
Adam Curry: Okay, all right. I have two answers here apparently
which one do we play? You
John C Dvorak: play the number one and which is the second one
just to follow
Unknown: up getting some long awaited recognition. I drink
Dr. Pepper and out of crowds Oh no. Dr.
Pepper just surpassed Pepsi to become the second most popular
carbonated beverage in America. Coca Cola is still number one.
Coca Cola Classic has about 19% of the carbonated soft drink
market in the US Dwayne
Stanford is the editor and publisher of beverage digest.
So then in second place, you got Dr Pepper with an 8.3 Share,
which
is now a carbonated bubble or two ahead of Pepsi.
Dr. Pepper used to market itself as the plucky underdog of soft
drinks, but it's actually older than Coke or Pepsi. It was
invented in 1885 started
off as a regional brand in the southwest and it grew over the
years and its major national player
which Wayne Stanford credits to Dr. Peppers targeted marketing.
They've gone
really big on college football. On any given weekend during the
championship bowl series, you'll see Dr. Pepper
girls football playoff trophy. Dr. Pepper, the Greek gods
trophies classic.
This afternoon he also has a strong presence on Tik Tok where
Dr. Pepper and pickles has become a thing. Here's tic tock
her and a gray stems.
The pickles are in there I invested pickle juice in there
for good measure. And here goes the doctor Kripa
Adam Curry: not bad. All right. I'm very disappointed in myself
for a number of reasons. One I forgot to mention Dr. Johnny
fever as one of the most important doctors in America to
every single no agenda show but I consume a seven and a half
fluid ounce can of Dr Pepper. If that's why I knew it was
established in 1885 Because it says it right on the cam and it
has 23 of authentic blends of flavors. Yes. Do you know Dr. Oz
is
John C Dvorak: a little more What do you know
Adam Curry: the ingredients of a Dr Pepper? No I do not
carbonated water high fructose corn syrup. Oh it's got high
fructose corn residue and good caramel caramel color.
Phosphoric acid natural and artificial flavors sodium
benzoate caffeine and is produced under the authority of
Dr. Pepper seven up Inc Hall of Fame label All right there you
go Frisco Louis
John C Dvorak: aside it's just a little more foggy first of all
this is a native ad Do you think and I've been finding native ads
on NPR more often than not interesting and they go out of
their way to promote one product even though they mentioned the
competition they do a really good job it makes it sound like
oh what an interesting story they came
Adam Curry: through and Coca Cola and they're just way
John C Dvorak: out to the store without saying something but
they did this is like support like news but it's not news it's
a native as somebody bought and paid for this do the timing on
it but I'm sure that length is right on the money in some way.
And the other thing is as interesting and they actually
sell this in a store in Marin County but the when Dr. Pepper
was sold to seventh up the original owners the family that
owns it we're allowed to continue making the original Dr.
Pepper as Dr. Pibb it's still called Dr. Pepper is has some
some differences on the label and it's it tastes better and
this may was sugar and not fructose corn syrup see of
course. And it's more expensive by a lot. It's a little bitty
bottle and but it's good and if you can and it's I think it is
still be made in Texas in Waco. Waco. Yeah, Waco is the OG so
you can look it up. You can probably drink that so that crap
you're drinking. Well,
Adam Curry: you're right because it could give me a cardiac
arrest.
John C Dvorak: Any minute, so I can go so if you want to finish
off the native add more details. Here we go. Can't wait.
Unknown: It's weird, but it's not bad.
That's a standard for you. We're not bad. Dwayne Stanford says
Dr. Pepper has gained ground also because of the choices by
the rival it just past Petzi
has invested more in their zero sugar offerings and not as much
in Pepsi Cola. They believe That's the future when it comes
to carbonated soft drinks.
So Pepsi Cola is down Dr. Pepper is Stanford anticipates Dr.
Pepper will stay in second place. So cheers
to Dr. Pepper. Okay, the pickles. I know pickles. Yeah,
yeah.
Adam Curry: Wow. To be a pepper to steal still in my head from
when I was six years old dynamite that's a good one
John's machine Those are good for a jeep, Jeep. Wait until you
hear the tip of the day jingle. But, you know, I know that the
tip of the day is is is a runaway success because I'm
John C Dvorak: Brian always unlike Yeah, I was running away
from
Adam Curry: unlike the good news. I must have 20 Tip of the
Day jingle. So people are liking it. They liked the idea and
they're gonna have to wait until they get their daily dose of
tip. Just the tip. Just the tip. Well, I know. I know. You say no
one's going to know is your season have revealed as crap
merited it. But
Unknown: yeah, but yeah, crap. Yeah, yeah.
Adam Curry: But the Supreme Court justices. That's really
coming to a head right now. By why? Well, because of the
disclosure. You heard about the disclosures? No. Oh, the
disclosures
Unknown: tonight Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, for the
first time is officially disclosing a controversial 2019
trip to Bali with billionaire Harlan Crowe. At the time Thomas
said the trips were a form of personal hospitality that
justices did not have to report. Now his disclosure report said
the two trips had been inadvertently omitted from his
2019 report. As for his colleagues, Justice Catan g
brown Jackson reported receiving a $900,000 book advance plus for
concert tickets were $3,700 from pop superstar Beyonce. And just
as Sonia Sotomayor disclosed $86,000 In Book royalties, the
Supreme Court adopted a new code of conduct last year, although
critics say there's no way to enforce it.
Adam Curry: So this is really interesting, because of course,
going after Clarence Thomas for these trips that he took on on
someone's private jet. Meanwhile, meanwhile, Catan G
Jackson Browne gets a $900,000 advance on her book, and we all
know it will read and maybe you can explain how book sales work
and how you get on the New York Times bestseller list?
John C Dvorak: Well, I can. No, I can't really explain how you
get the New York Times bestseller list, even though
it's it tends to be just reported sales for a short very,
very short time from from certain booksellers. And then
it's extrapolated and made into the book, the best sellers. This
is not a genuine reflection of any sales whatsoever, because
there's plenty of independent booksellers that sell a lot of
books. And that never gets reported in New York Times in
the first place. But that's what I'm that. So that's something of
a promotion of public relations. What I'm what I'm then what
Adam Curry: I'm nudging towards is you have some friendly group,
buy up a whole slew of those books and hand them out at
conferences.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's very common. In fact, I had this I
busted. I was writing for the DEC professional and I did tell
them once, here we go. Is this for this story? Yeah. So I'm at
the Media Lab, with their mindset
Adam Curry: corporate MIT Media Lab. Yes.
John C Dvorak: Oh, I got an invite to go. Will Hearst asked
me if I wanted to go to the as as a group, part of the Hearst
Corporation and just hang out with with the with the
corporation at the top guys and him and
Adam Curry: I don't know Media Lab. I don't think I don't know
the story. I don't think I know the story. You
John C Dvorak: should. Anyway, so I would go to the Media Lab.
And it. Unlike reporters, normally when you go to the
Media Lab, they always make you sign a bunch of non disclosures.
But because they were trying to sell the Hearst Corporation on
some project, there was no non disclosures involved because of
just assume you're not going to be talking about. Right, right.
And so they it's a frank Beneke was there and Randy Hurst and
all these, it was just a bunch of which I got the very funny
conversations I got to have, and will and I and so we go in there
and take the whole tour. And I get to hear the pitch from negra
Ponte, about how they've pre sold the book on the Media Lab,
which will be written I believe, by Stuart Brand. And he bragged
about how they're going to have the marketing of this book, and
about how they're going to priests. This sold the book on a
pre sale basis where you go in there and say, Look, publisher,
we're going to sell 50,000 copies of this book. right off
the off the top, we're gonna buy him back from you after they get
printed. It was all part of the scheme to get you get become a
best seller and the holes and you give the books away just
what you said. Nice. And so we're going we're going through
the. And they were showing us all the crazy inventions they're
having. And every time we asked about it, they're always every
invention seems to have been invented in Japan or China. But
they're showing all this stuff. But at the very end they would
happen was the final meeting where they're going on about how
they should do this and that with technology and diameter
folks aren't or the Hearst Corporation folks aren't buying
most of it. And then Martin does. So there's a kicker they
bring in Marvin Minsky
Adam Curry: was Epstein with him.
John C Dvorak: I don't know he was. Marvin Minsky comes in, and
he sits down and immediately recognizes me. And he gets very
upset. And he's in he asked him, What is this guy doing here?
Adam Curry: What is he doing here? is
John C Dvorak: pretty much what he said. Because I wasn't non
disclosed. I didn't have to do. You're
Adam Curry: a hater. You're a troublemaker, you're
Unknown: either all
John C Dvorak: and they kicked, they kicked me out. First and I
both love Edwin and I both left because we was over anyway, so I
already got what I needed. So later in this story. I wrote
this up in a deck professional column, calling out the media
laugh now.
Adam Curry: Bars deck Digital Equipment Corporation
John C Dvorak: right ahead of magazine. I was inside I had the
back cover. So I wrote this thing up and it was very
critical, the whole operation. That's
Adam Curry: why they want it you know, no wonder it
John C Dvorak: took like about three months before all of a
sudden. But Negroponte was one of the primary publishers kind
of a publish on or what he really did there but of Wired
magazine. So they immediately did a hit piece on me.
Adam Curry: How can you do it? What is there to hit on you?
That's the point.
John C Dvorak: So they sent one of their top hit piece writers
Paulina bursts bore Sook. He's
Adam Curry: got an old Lexus. He's no good. I mean, what can
you do? He likes noise they have
John C Dvorak: so they sent her after me and it was like and
first thing I did is I did a little background she was a
vegetarian vegan. So I took her out to dinner at greens in San
Francisco and got to know her. She could not come up with
anything the hit piece became a kind of a bio of me and wired
look it up it's around and it's so weak and it's like they
couldn't do it because I'm not a hittable. I don't really I'm not
an interesting guy. No one has been around the block
Adam Curry: boring just for title a potential show title
will and I like that. That
John C Dvorak: Oh, anyways, why? Just because I know I know a few
people that's for sure. But so that so that whole thing was a
fiasco. And it was like and that's the way it's done is
phony. I got a boots on the ground make a long story long.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, hold on. We got boots on the ground from our
producer in South Dakota. This is exactly how Kristi Noem gets
her books on the New York Times bestseller list. Her campaign
gives money to right wing groups to buy them up and give them
away to donors. Yeah, that's what you do.
John C Dvorak: That's what you do is a good way to go. And it
doesn't make any money.
Adam Curry: And it helps me put them there that you know, you
shot your dog that helps. I mean, it's a little better than
I got kicked out of MIT, to be honest.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I didn't shoot a dog.
Adam Curry: Bad events back to the Supreme Court and their book
deals and their and their gifts
Unknown: and justices are allowed to have some outside
income, but most of their outside income is capped around
$30,000. Except you do not have to have a limit on book
royalties and fees. So these justices who signed these
multimillion dollar contracts are not subject to any cap and
they can make as much as they can from these book deals,
Adam Curry: which is clearly it's that's just as evil
according to the information we've just gleaned from you,
because you will
John C Dvorak: die that but these book deals and you see it
all the time with somebody get you they quit office and the
next thing you know they get a million dollar book deal.
They're not selling a million dollars with the books based on
royalties. These deals are corrupt. The idea is don't
worry. Once you get out of office, we'll make it up to you
and somebody I don't know how this works behind the scenes,
but somebody's giving somebody a lot of money to it's money
laundering, is what it is. The publisher gets a bunch of money
and gives it to the Hillary Clinton let's say or somebody
saying you actually sell a few books, but most of these people
can't. And next thing you know, it's like Religion, you were in
office it is to favorites like people get jobs after the fact
Adam Curry: you had made a Supreme Court ruling. We're
gonna make sure we give you you get a nice fat advance on your
book and we'll buy it all back. It's just as corrupt if not much
more, but no, Clarence Thomas. Got to go after him. Now MSNBC,
your boy, I shouldn't say that. Racist of me, Jonathan Capehart
took a little different. I don't know why I said that. Jonathan
Capehart. They came out with a little different take and went
straight to Trump where it all really belongs. So that's part
of what this is about. Here's the intro into his guest.
Unknown: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has finally
acknowledged the luxury getaways he accepted as gifts from a
Republican billionaire. Justice Thomas updated his financial
disclosure forms yesterday to include two trips he took in
2019 with mega donor harlyn CRO mega donor le didn't provide $1
value for the vacations with CRO pro publica estimated they were
worth more than 500,000 bucks. Justice Thomas's friendship with
CRO has fueled serious concerns, by
Adam Curry: the way that some vacation 500,000 I mean, that
must
John C Dvorak: I'm not buying just a couple of things. I don't
buy that number. But the other thing is, so what is unless you
can do the following and they're not doing it. Yeah. can watch
him connect him. What is the connection between Pro and and
Justice Thomas that would be debt. That's corrupt. I mean, it
was Was there one specific thing that Tom has ruled on his theory
is only one of a few I
Adam Curry: find out? Maybe Maybe we can find out.
Unknown: Justice Thomas's friendship with crow has fueled
serious concerns about partisanship concerns on the
High Court, especially with the consequential
John C Dvorak: clearly weighed concerns about partisanship.
Adam Curry: Yes, you can't be you can't be partisan.
John C Dvorak: So I'm concerned about your partisan ship. That's
Adam Curry: correct.
John C Dvorak: What does that even mean?
Adam Curry: Well, it means that you're you're in it in the in
the tank for Trump Hello.
Unknown: The justices still have to release more than two dozen
decisions of the next three weeks touching on several major
issues from emergency abortion access to Donald Trump's claim
of presidential immunity. And then there's reason to fear the
worst from the court that overturn Roe v. Wade. Recently,
Justice Sonia Sotomayor shared this warning about the rulings
ahead.
There are days that I've come to my office after an announcement
of a case and closed my door and cried. There have been those
things and they're likely to be more and there are moments than
Yes, even I feel desperation or
John C Dvorak: despair. Okay. This I want to give you a kudos
for this because I knew about this, per saying that I've never
heard a clip of it. I wish
Adam Curry: I could take it that goes completely to the clip
custodian today. And he's, he's already busy.
Unknown: Joining me now Ian mill Heiser senior correspondent for
Vox where he focuses on the Supreme Court and the
Constitution. He's also the author of the agenda. The
Republican Supreme Court is reshaping America II Thank you
very much for coming to the Saturday show. I like yeah, I
want to get a little time that we have. All right.
Adam Curry: So a lot of cases in the little amount of time, let's
guess what could it be about first,
Unknown: there is Trump versus United States. This isn't
running presidential immunity. How do we think that's gonna go?
I mean, I think Trump's already won this case, like, what the
court is probably going to do is they're gonna say President
sometimes have immunity and send the case back back down to lower
court to figure out if Trump does in this case, but none of
that matters. Like the the issue is, are we going to have a trial
before the election, and they've already run out the clock so
much that I think that the answer is going to be now. All
right.
Adam Curry: So there's two right one, let's go to Fisher Fisher
Unknown: versus the United States. This is whether January
6 participants, including Trump can be charged with obstruction
of an official proceeding. How do we think are they gonna? Are
they gonna throw out these charges? I was very surprised at
how the oral argument while there have been like 16 judges
who have heard this claim, and only two of them have said that
the statute should be read narrowly. So these January six
defendants essentially get off. Now we're talking about there's
about 1200 January six defendants, including Donald
Trump, and only about 300 of them have been charged under the
statute at issue here. So it's not like it's going to be
blanket immunity for January 6 defendants but we're still
talking about a good chunk of people who participate in the
insurrection, lock
Adam Curry: up the praying grannies. So yes, erection
doesn't seem like much happening there. Let's get to the case
that we're also concerned about
Unknown: the next one. In a couple of cases have to do with
abortion, the myth of prestone case? Yeah. How do you think the
justices are going to rule on that? So that is, you know, of
the two abortion cases. That's the one I'm most optimistic
about. I think that they'll leave it alone, they'll leave
access to myth. And that's correct. I mean, almost half of
more than half of abortions in the United States are performed
with Miffy per stone. And I think they realized that if they
accept the lower courts reasoning to ban it, so many
other drugs will be banned. But these guys don't like abortion,
but they don't want to ban antibiotics. All right. And so
that's the good news on abortion there. Thank you. Thank you for
the hope. Neither of us have a vagina. But hopefully, and this
is what moil versus the United States, like women. Hi, this is
whether federal law regulating hospitals, Trump's local
abortion bans when it comes to performing emergency abortions,
I think the court is going to do what I mean, I'm worried about
this case. So there's a federal law that doesn't refer
specifically to abortions, but it says if you go to an
emergency room, and you have a medical emergency, they have to
stabilize your health condition. And so if the appropriate
treatment is an abortion, the law right now says that you have
a right to an abortion. I think based on the oral argument,
they're likely to write that out of the statute, or at least put
some kind of limits on it so that people who need life saving
or health saving abortions won't be able to get them anymore.
Okay.
Adam Curry: Who cares? All right, kill babies. Good news,
everybody. But here it is the one we've all been waiting for
the real deal, it all comes down to this cording to your no
agenda show. And now,
Unknown: here's a case that I don't think a lot of people even
know about, and this is euphemistically known as the
chevron bias. And this is one whether to overturn the
Adam Curry: the chevron Chevron case, he said,
John C Dvorak: but he means I says Chevron, now he means
Chevron, Chevron, Chevron deference.
Unknown: Yes. The Chevron guys, and this is one whether they
said Right, right. I don't know. They say Chevron, right, the
chevron guys, and this is now
Adam Curry: the other guy says in the middle says right, this
is to know whether
Unknown: to overturn the landmark Supreme Court ruling in
1984, Chevron case that gave federal agencies leeway to
interpret the law. Right. Sounds right. Right. And that explain
why this, this is so dry. And yes, the most important case
decision to come down from the Supreme. This is both the most
hyper technical, like even lawyers to have trouble
understanding a case, but also the most
Adam Curry: podcasters seem to get it.
John C Dvorak: For some reason lawyers have no trouble
understanding this. Yeah.
Adam Curry: But this is meant to obfuscate and to confuse people.
Don't listen to this. People don't listen to this part, you
don't need to know about the chevron rights thing. What isn't
that important? Don't just get rid of the black guy. So
Unknown: there are just scads of federal laws that delegate power
to a federal agency, you know, everything from like how much
emissions come from power plants to what your cable rates are to
who gets overtime pay is controlled by federal agencies.
Chevron was a case from the Reagan era, which said that
courts should generally let agencies do what they need to do
and defer to them. What the court is likely to do here is
essentially give itself a veto power over everything the
agencies do. So it's not just a transfer of power. And it's a
huge transfer of power from the Democratic Biden administration
to a Supreme Court as a six to three Republican majority. And
with that have, to your point about, you know, regulating
antibiotics that would give them purview over the FDA. Right,
Brian Shirley. Right, it is different. The FDA has its own
statute, which is different than the regulatory regime that
concerns Chevron. But what we've seen from the Supreme Court
overall, they've been making up all these things with names like
the major questions doctrine that they've made up, yeah, that
lets them interfere with agencies. So like, this court
wants to have the last word on a lot of things. Okay,
Adam Curry: so they've made it all about, oh, if Trump comes
in, then you won't be able to get your abortion drug. That's
literally,
John C Dvorak: I gotta get out of the way here. It's not so the
courts can do to say, Oh, we don't like what you're doing.
And you see, we got six conservatives, we're going to
change. This is to throw it back to the word belongs the
lawmaking supposed to take place by the legislative branch, not
the courts, not the executive, which is the administrative
state. It's supposed to be the legislative branch. And what
this Chevron deference cases supposed to do is kick it back
and make it so the legislature takes a little more
responsibility for all these crazy rules that these guys
dream up because they hate global warming, or whatever. And
so this is a very, this is a very, I would say, dishonest
report that you're listening to. Interestingly,
Adam Curry: Katie Fang from MSNBC had little problem
explaining it in 37 seconds. Chevron
Unknown: deference is a 40 year old precedent. more federal
judges grant federal agencies latitude on how to interpret
legislative statutes. Judges are supposed to follow a two part
process, one, examine the congressional language. And if
the intent is clear, the matter is settled. But two, if the
language is ambiguous, and the ruling court must defer to that
agency on how the law should be implemented, essentially, ask
the experts and without the Chevron deference doctrine in
place, everything and I mean, everything in your life could be
affected.
Adam Curry: And now the kicker, so everyone's going after
Clarence Thomas, the real problem guy is Gorsuch. This is
a clip from his confirmation hearing, where he discusses this
quite clearly, section 706
Unknown: of the Administrative Procedures Act says basically
two things and I'm paraphrasing. It says the courts are supposed
to defer to the factual findings of agencies. So the extent
you're talking about expert biologists, chemists, whatever
manner of regulatory expertise we're talking about there. The
courts are to defer to that. And to take that seriously. And we
do, just as we would save the factual finding of a jury, or a
district court judge, that comes to us with a presumption of
correctness, clear error, standard review, very hard to
meet. Section 706, however, also goes on to say that when it
comes to questions of law, the courts are to interpret the law.
Despite that command from this body. The courts have created a
doctrine that says that if there's any ambiguity in the
law, the agency gets to make the decision about what the law
means. And I have questions about that. That doctrine, I've
raised questions about whether that's compatible with the plain
language of section 706.
Adam Curry: I'd say crosshairs on Gorsuch next, they got to do
he
John C Dvorak: had already a target. Now, the thing that
people need to be reminded of is before I think it was 84, when
the Chevron deference became a became the root the law of the
land, kind of you want to call it that, or the law of the land
and lawless. What had what was going on before 1984. This
administrative the administrative state was still
there, but it wasn't running roughshod over the US public,
which is doing now by Oh, you have to have all electric cars,
or else that's only recent. I mean, before 1984 there was I
was working in a administrative agency for free for years. And
it was before 1984. And they had all their kangaroo court they
did the whole thing is pretty much the same. Except it wasn't
riding roughshod over the public like it's been doing since night
since the Chevron deference came into being and it took them a
while to figure it out. But these bureaucrats it took them a
while. But they said once they figured out, hey, you know, we
can do what we want, which is Dream stuff up who do this and
that it will base it on whatever, it doesn't make any
difference because we have we run the shop. And so this is
what's happened in this has to be reversed.
Adam Curry: And it appears that people in the know actually
understand this is what it's about. It's not even about
Trump,
John C Dvorak: but hardly about Trump now. But that's the joke
of it. You bring Trump and then Trump doesn't even I doubt Trump
even has a clue about any of this. To be honest about it. I
don't know he might do it. Anyone who put who put that day,
John Bolton in his cabinet or in his fear of influence? No shit.
Well,
Adam Curry: I watched you know, I watched last night, the the
two hour interview of Tucker with Thomas Massie. Have you
seen this by any chance?
John C Dvorak: No, I have not and probably never will. It is
required
Adam Curry: watching this guy is. He's funny. He's very smart.
I didn't know that he had he has 30 patents on virtual reality,
3d objects that I think he sold to a lot of Silicon Valley
companies. You know, this hillbilly, who created this.
This is a very interesting guy. And he even talks about how the
bid during COVID He jumped in his car and drove eight hours to
show up for the vote for the Cares Act to stop at the to $2
trillion because he's like, No, this is this is not by unanimous
consent. And of course the rules are if one shows up, then that's
not unanimous consent. And Trump was calling him like, you know,
good and he just great impressions of Trump and Have
McConnell? I mean, he's just out and out. John, you will love
this interview. You will go watch it then. And I pulled a
couple clips for you. The first one answers a very kind of
answers a very important question we have about Mike
Johnson. Why all of a sudden did Mike Johnson spin around 180
degrees and fold on all this military aid and the what's the,
you know, grab brushes money and ban tick tock. We've been asking
ourselves this question. For months,
John C Dvorak: we had one answer to the thesis that he did it to
stay in office.
Adam Curry: Well, here's Massey's answer. Well, one of
the things
Unknown: he claims which I don't believe is true, and I have
reason to say this, is that he says he went in the skiff, like
he's had some 180 degree turns on some things like for
instance, whether you need a warrant to spy on Americans
using the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act 702 program.
Well, he used to be on Judiciary Committee, with me and Jim
Jordan, trying to reform that trying to get so he understood
what it was he knew completely what we were talking about. He's
an attorney to write and he knows the Constitution. He knows
this is required, but he claims he spent time in a skiff and he
learned a skiff that's secure, compartmentalized Information
Facility or something is where we go we have to leave our
phones locked up, you know, no staff in there. He claims he
spent time in skiff and learn things that changed his mind.
Here's the problem. Tucker, I was in the skiff with him. We
had we had DNI not just the the current DNI but the former DNI,
John Radcliffe Trump's DNI. We had CIA. We had FBI. We even had
a FISA judge in there. And we spent three and a half hours it
was a four hour meeting and after three and a half hour is
basically a psyop where they're just trying to beat you down and
do the things. And I was like, This is ridiculous. You get you
haven't given they didn't give us one example of anytime ever
since FISA was created, that getting a warrant would have
kept them from solving or preventing an act of terrorism.
They gave hypotheticals, but they had no specific
and I think FEIS has been in place since 1978. Since the 70s.
Right?
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Yeah, I forgot to mention this was about
FISA. So they sigh opt him. There's a little gotcha in there
because he says it was a four hour meeting. And he was in
there with him for three and a half hours. I'm thinking that
last half hours when they said, Hey, Mike, look at this picture.
That's what I think. But then Tucker does ask for what he
thinks the truth is. So what is the truth? What
Unknown: do you think changed?
I think he's kind of a lost ball and tall weeds. They think he's
in a position of power. He never imagined he would get to at this
point in his life. He's not done anything in private practice or
political arena. This prepared him for this. He took the job
with a very small staff. He didn't have people to put in all
positions on the field. And he had to accept a lot of
suggestions in areas he didn't know a whole lot about, although
he gets no pass on FISA. Yes, he gets no pass on Ukraine. Because
he does, as you pointed out, he doesn't even know how many
casualties have been incurred on the Ukrainian side. If you need
He's the second person in line for president after Kamala
Harris. This is This is scary to me. He's He's basically getting
moved around.
Adam Curry: And he was very clear that he was all in with
Marjorie. He doesn't say Marjorie Taylor Greene just
calls her Marge says, I'm all in with March, we're gonna get rid
of him. We don't want him back as Speaker of the House. Now,
there was a clip that went viral from this interview, then when
you hear the viral clip, you'll understand why, because there's
a lot of people who've been waiting for proof proof that
Israel runs our Congress.
Unknown: Well, I have Republicans who come to me on
the floor and say, I wish I could vote with you today. Yours
is the right vote. But I would just take too much flack back
home. And I have Republicans who come to me and say that's wrong.
What AIPAC is doing to you. Let me talk to my AIPAC person. By
the way, everybody by me has an APEC person like I mean, an APEC
person. He's like your babysitter, your APEC
babysitter, who is always talking to you for a pack,
they're probably a constituent in your district. But they are
you know, firmly embedded in a pack and every member has
something like this. Every I don't know how it works on the
Democrat side. But that's how it works on the Republican side.
And when they when they come to DC you go have a lunch with
them. And they've got your cell number. And you have
conversations with them. So I've had like, that's absolutely
crazy. I've had four members of Congress say, I'll talk to my
APEC person. And if you watch, we call them my bad guy. I'll
talk to my APEC guy and see if I can get him to, you know, dial
those ads back.
Why have I never heard this before? It
doesn't benefit anybody. Why would they want to tell their
constituents that they've basically got a buddy system
with somebody who's representing a foreign country? It doesn't
benefit the congressman for people to know that so they're
not going to tell you that.
Adam Curry: So this of course, this went viral because now
everyone can say you see the Jews run it. They run
everything. Israel runs America. They've got guys, they've got
babysitters. It's, it's it's proof. It's proof.
Unfortunately, it's taken out of context, because when you watch
this interview, he explains very clearly what's going on. But
first, a disclaimer and kind of an understanding of AIPAC, of
course, the American Israeli what is it? What is the
political action committee? No, no, no, no, they have a
political it's No, it's not. That's what AIPAC is. No, no,
they they didn't have one years ago. AIPAC. The original AIPAC
is the American but Israeli public affairs committee.
John C Dvorak: Okay. And get there's a little issue here
there. I want to bring up because you saw this interview I
didn't, which is that if there's an AIPAC contact with your cell
phone number, did John Tucker bring up the Orsay? Is there a
guy from the petroleum industry that
Adam Curry: he did, actually, it was very funny, I didn't clip
it. He said, Hey, do you have a Germany guy? Do you have an
alien guy? No, no, he does. Isn't that only only AIPAC. But
he says it's very, I think I have the clip is very similar.
It's very similar to the NRA who are all about guns. Oh, you'll
get to it. But first, the real problem, because AIPAC, as we've
discussed, is funded by the AI F, which is the American Israel
Education Foundation. And its donors are Lockheed Martin,
north of Grumman and General Atomics amongst others. So
here's Massey saying, This is why he doesn't want to deal with
with any any of these guys, because this is who he is.
Unknown: I'm not against Israel. I've never voted to sanction
Israel. I've never said anything, particularly, you
know, critical of Israel, you know, other than, for instance,
right now, they're bombing, they've killed 1% of the
civilian population in Gaza. That's concerning to me. But so
what do they do now?
You get elected 2012.
Do you hear from them again? I vote my conscience, which they
won't tolerate. So they ran with their 501 C four, before they
had a super PAC, they they were running educational advocacy ads
against me saying that, you know, I'm bad on Israel. They
didn't say don't vote for him. They just said he's, he's a bad
guy. And so I said, All right, well, you're not welcome in my
office anymore. Because for years, I invited him into my
office. Let's talk this through. Let me explain to you, I'm a
libertarian leaning Republican, I'm gonna vote for foreign aid
for anybody. So don't be offended when I don't vote for
your foreign aid. I don't vote for wars anywhere. So don't be
offended if I tell you that I'm for free speech, even if it's
abhorrent. And yeah, we used to talk but now they're banned from
my office. The situation from bad to worse, this election
cycle, they spent $400,000 against me. So
Adam Curry: the point he's making is that they basically
call him an anti Semite and a Jew hater for not wanting to
talk to them. But here's the real reason why. Now, to
Unknown: your point, they should be registered with Faraj, this
is what Faraj is, is where there's gray area, where it's an
American representing a foreign country. Let's let's look and
see if you're getting any money from that foreign country. Are
you a dual citizen with that foreign country? Are you being
directed by for instance, is Netanyahu speaking to your group
advising you on your next move? Those are you getting money from
the military industrial complex? Like because to understand
AIPAC? I think it's easiest to model them as a military
industrial lobby. Like their biggest thing is they want more
equipment, more military equipment from the United States
going to Israel. In fact, when they used to be allowed in my
office, the thing that the argument that would make is, oh,
we're just stimulating the US military industrial complex,
because every single penny of the 3.8 billion that they
nominally Get it now they're getting way more than that. But
Israel normally gets goes to US military contractors.
Adam Curry: And this is what we heard over and over again. So
now you can point out the people who got a call from their AIPAC
guy. Hey, man, make sure everyone needs to know this is
about our defense industrial base. Of course, Israel. 3.8
billion is nothing. But this is where AIPAC shines.
Unknown: Now, that didn't make me warm and fuzzy. Okay. But
that is their argument. And if you notice what they advocate
for, I think sometimes they advocate for things that even
Israelis wouldn't advocate for. I believe that, like they would,
I think be okay with a war with Iran, like all out, you know,
apocalyptic war with Iran, whereas there are people in
Israel say, Whoa, hold on a second. We we'd rather not have
a war with Iran. But AIPAC does things that lead us in that
direction. And so they're kind of like, what the NRA is to gun
owners, AIPAC is to Israel, or what the Farm Bureau is to
farmers, AIPAC is to Israel in other presents a faction right.
They represent a faction, but usually a corporate faction,
that and they're using the imprimatur of grassroots that
they've diluted or confused into bullying congressman,
Adam Curry: so the way I see it is actually the exact opposite
the real money, which is in case anyone missed it, $900 billion a
year or this most recent year, more than that. Now, a trillion
cool trillion total, since we added some extra money. It's the
opposite. The defense industrial base is abusing the Jews and the
playing the Jew card, to force people into signing off on
weaponry, especially if it's against Iran. Hello, Lindsey
Graham. And it's worse because then you take the Christians who
are like, Oh, Jews, the chosen people, let's get them in on the
deal, too.
Unknown: They didn't have a political action committee at
the time, they couldn't spend hundreds of 1000s or millions of
dollars against me at that time. It was just sort of like a
whisper campaign to try to Hey, don't vote for him, blah, blah
blahs. Why? Because at that point, they sensed I wouldn't do
what they want. And what did
they whisper against you? What
were they saying about you? Well, they would do it through
for instance, churches, evangelical churches, they've
got an organization called Christians United for Israel,
really sort of CO opted evangelicals. People think it's
a grassroots movement in Kentucky. It's actually a top
down movement from AIPAC so that people who aren't even Jewish
will feel like they've got to support Israel, you know, no
matter what. And even if it's a secular state that funds
abortions, they just sort of forget that part. And we've got
to fund Israel. So they have networks. So it's more than just
about the money.
Adam Curry: And then just one bonus clip, which is, which just
completes the whole circle about Afghanistan and Russia and
Ukraine and Israel.
Unknown: Why are we in a war with Russia? I've never figured
that out. Why Russia? It almost seems like they picked it off.
Like, why would we be at war with Russia?
No. What's interesting is we were in Afghanistan. And I was
tracking this, I talked to the Special Inspector General, John
Sopko, about twice a year about the money that was being wasted
in Afghanistan, it was about $50 billion a year. And it was glad
to see us get out of Afghanistan, but kind of like
feathering the clutch and shifting gears, we just went
from second gear to third gear, because as soon as we quit
spending $50 billion a year in Afghanistan, we started spending
more than $50 billion a year in Ukraine. There's a military
industrial complex, they call it the defense industrial base. Now
in the United States, they say we have to, they're hungry, and
we got to keep them fed. And since we don't have any of our
own wars, and we don't have a reason to deplete our stocks,
and our bombs, and weapons that we have, we engage in these
other things to keep them healthy and thriving. In fact,
the Biden administration even made that argument in a letter
to Congress for why we should do this supplemental foreign aid to
Israel to Ukraine to Taiwan, they made the argument that the
defense industrial base needs to be strong. And so we need to
spend this money and they gave a list of all the states in the
United States that would benefit from this spending. And that's
why they said we should do it.
Adam Curry: And that's what Trump does. That's exactly what
Trump was doing. That's the only manufacturing we have the and
Trump if I think Trump will come in the he's going to figure out
a way to get more money into defense, but eventually, I mean,
do we just start more wars in Africa or I mean, you have to
deplete the stuff to create more.
John C Dvorak: But that Africa is a good target. Yeah, we
didn't notice this.
Adam Curry: Exactly. But then unfortunately, we'll have to
play African news which will kill the show.
John C Dvorak: No, we're not gonna play African news. That's
the idea. They're not going to play Africa. The news so we can
waste money down there and they want to kill the show. I thought
did Trump coming in and maybe auditing the Defense Department
and see what, who's ripping us off? We're spending too much
money for what we're getting for the bang for the buck. I don't
care about throwing, wasting bombs and all the rest of it
seems to me that there's some, there's some hidden money here.
It's like black energy.
Adam Curry: He's never even hinted at doing that. I mean,
the only thing I could think of is Trump would come in and say,
All right, you guys are all wasteful. And we have enough
weaponry now. Boeing Why don't you stop doing that dumb stuff
with your, your strike fighter, your joint fighter? Yeah. Why
don't you build a real plane? One that I can fly in. And then
you know, all these other companies once you start
building good cars that people want, I mean, that could be
something
John C Dvorak: that'll be the day instead of
Adam Curry: instead of tanks build this car. I
John C Dvorak: mean, the trans trend because it medical
associated medical operations go well, yeah, hell with that
money.
Adam Curry: Well, anyway, I like maths
John C Dvorak: sounds a good yeah, we sounds a good guy.
Adam Curry: Yeah. He's, he built his own house, himself with wood
he collected on his land.
John C Dvorak: I know that type
Adam Curry: the guy. The guy's funny, he said, and he got a
Tesla battery to power it. And he says it was crazy. I bought
this Tesla battery and I had to get special permission to
transport it because it's considered a hazardous material.
John C Dvorak: It is totally yet that strapped lithium bomb
strapped onto
Adam Curry: your car. The guy's funny. He's funny. Okay,
John C Dvorak: we will definitely listen to him. Yes.
Yes. He's under a lot. He is under attack. Oh, he's part of
the Marjorie Taylor Greene. Yeah, this Cabal, very small
group is only maybe five or six people. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, he definitely is, I think a no agenda type
guy. When you hear what he's how he talks like, Yeah, makes a lot
of sense.
John C Dvorak: Well, now I can do a whole series of clips from
Peter McCullough. Yes. Which is a lot of subs because he was on
a show called The courageous discourse.
Adam Curry: Is this a podcast? Yeah. Oh, excellent.
John C Dvorak: He's on a podcast. And I just found this
to be the series of very alt. He names names, who's doing the bio
weapon development. He's Excellent.
Adam Curry: This is why there's two of us, John, I'm watching
Massey, you're watching makalah. We come together on Sunday, Bada
bing, bada boom, what a show we got.
John C Dvorak: He names names, he points the finger. He's very
funny. He likes to laugh about stuff. And he is so
knowledgeable. It's like listening to him. You know, you
know, that guy's on top. And it's just amazing to me that
he's not like, you know, the surgeon general or so he's he's
just pushed a little bit pushed. You Can't a guy like this is so
powerful and is the intellectual pursuits that you can't kick him
to the curb. And he'll just keep cropping up here and there. And
this is one of the best examples I think. And it's about stuff
that you haven't heard and it shouldn't. It should enrage the
public this some of this is going on but let's go with
Macola on courageous A's on the podcast courageous discourse is
number one.
Unknown: I want to have you on particularly to talk about this
disease X you know,
your disease access, not Twitter disease. X is a theoretical
disease that that people in this biopharmaceutical complex have
been writing about for years, including Peter desiccate, the
equal Health Alliance has been writing I said Can't wait for
disease X. It's going to infect mankind, it's going to have a
high kill rate. So we're seeing 20 times that of COVID. The
global vaccine Alliance disease x is going to be bird flu. And I
think they were right.
Adam Curry: You're in my backyard Dvorak.
John C Dvorak: Yep. I tell you, you get you get a kick out of
these clip. I
Adam Curry: have my you have my attention for sure. Because go
John C Dvorak: to two, they've been
Unknown: talking about bird flu for years. I remember back
during the Obama administration, they would have these bird flu,
sere campaigns in the media and nothing ever really came of it.
What is going on with bird flu, has a lab finally hit the
jackpot in terms of making it very contagious for humans? Is
that what we're talking about here?
There has been gain of function research on bird flu for decades
now researchers have been working on this to doctors Dr.
Merrick how that university was constant Dr. Ron foo che at
Rotterdam, the Netherlands. They've been trying to make this
virus jump from human inhuman for a decade or more, it's
nothing's been in the open more than this bird flu infects
chickens largely, sometimes cat all the Chinese started
vaccinating for this back in the 90s. It's made it way worse. So
now the birds spread it around even more. The main method of
handling it is kill all the birds when one bird gets a bird
flu kill the whole poultry flock, I think that's been a
disaster, they're going to have to let the birds get some
natural immunity. We're talking about highly pathogenic h five
and one avian influenza, also known as bird flu, about 800 to
900 human cases when it spreads from the animal to the worker.
And historically, there's had a 52.7% mortality rate, largely
because of people lots of handling the birds Southeast
Asia, no medical care presenting late. The most recent outbreak,
we've had three human cases in the United States, two of them
were pinkeye, one with some respiratory symptoms all easily
treated. So I don't think bird flu is going to be much of a
human threat unless it starts spreading human to human and if
it does, believe me, we're gonna kneel the gain of function guys
who've been working on this. And the southeastern poultry
Research Center in Athens, Georgia, we think that's where
the most recent strain came out of does.
Adam Curry: Dr. McCall at any point mentioned that the birds
aren't real
Unknown: word you know what they were doing? They were doing
experiments in mallard ducks, migratory waterfowl, what a
mistake. One of those guys gets out. They fly everywhere. You
know, the media has not been asking the question, why did it
spread from Texas to to Iowa to Michigan managers happened
magic? They didn't ask the question. They just think it
spontaneously arising. No, it's been spread by the ducks that
are flying all over.
Wow. And do we have any recourse to stop this or sue this lab for
spreading a migratory bird with a novel disease? All
these experts are saying we have to get ahead of nature. That's
what disease X researchers that we have to get ahead of nature.
We have to make it invade humankind and then come up with
vaccines. So disease X vaccines, the Coalition for epidemic
preparedness innovation as the Global Center founded by Gates
Foundation World Economic Forum gave an entire over 100 page
white paper on disease X. It said the whole reason to study
disease X is to have a disease X vaccine. Sure enough with bird
flu CSLs Aquarius biotech company has the Odense vaccine,
it was FDA licensed in 2021. With no human data, ready to go
for bird flu, they developed it with BARDA, a research unit of
the military 2021. And now the US has purchased, you know,
enough doses for millions of administration's why would the
US military be developing a bird flu vaccine? And why in 2021?
Now, news was out this week that you know, Pfizer Maderna are
talking to the federal government about messenger RNA
vaccines. CSL has a self replicating messenger RNA
vaccine and development Cepi with the Koreans have a self
replicating messenger RNA vaccine. So
Adam Curry: coming back to our boots on the ground. I mean, the
testing industrial complex must just be salivating to by the
way, you know how you test for bird flu? I came across this
last night via what the test is. You swab your eye?
Unknown: Oh, yeah, yeah.
Adam Curry: If your nose wasn't bad enough, where they jammed it
into your brain now they're going to put a cotton swab in
your eye to see if you have bird flu. And we need to remind newer
listeners, Peter McCullough is highly decorated. But this is a
they can't use undie platform bubble now they're just not
putting them on mainstream news anymore. But they can't get rid
of him because he has so many podcasters say a big
John C Dvorak: threat that's what it was what the clip we had
recently where they claim that podcasters were like the big
threat Yes. Again clearly schemes yes
Adam Curry: clearly clearly we the podcasters are the problem
problematic podcasters
John C Dvorak: Yes, again, because one of those guys enjoys
talking that he does, but it's like he has so much at the tip
he's not using any notes at all he never looks down and he just
off the top of his head has every all the stats and the
right to the number the right to the point something and he just
goes on and on with this. He's great. This is part four.
Unknown: I gotta tell you that bird flu is disease x because
people have an aspiration of mass vaccinating the world again
COVID Wasn't enough now it's game on disease X bird flu, I
Adam Curry: know how disease X spreads, it spreads to the
internet.
Unknown: So is this going to be potentially more lethal than
COVID? Or what? What is your thoughts on this?
So far? You know, it's early, but the cases appear mild, it
looks like this strain and what we're tracking is h five n one
clade two point 3.44. B, we actually got it down to the
clade n and the mutation that came out of the Athens Georgia
lab. This one luckily so far appears to be very benign
pinkeye and something easily treated with the you know,
iodine nasal sprays and gargles. Also, Tim Avira, Tamiflu
hydroxychloroquine, it's all gonna cover it easily. So it
doesn't appear to be very dangerous to humans. The reason
why it's dangerous to animals is because they are incinerating
all the animals instead of letting them get through it.
Yeah, this is a mild version. I think we ought to have some
observational studies to just see what is the mortality rate
in birds we can't destroy every last chicken, because the
mallard ducks are going to continue to spread it around
Adam Curry: it all. I love that. The only danger to chickens is
they're gonna get incinerated. Man, it all fits together with
the culture of lab chicken meat and everything. It all kind of
fits together though, doesn't it? It's a nice little puzzle
they built here. And it's always pretty well they benefit
John C Dvorak: mallard duck thing he's really on that he
just thinks is horrible that they would effect a duck. I
mean,
Adam Curry: this even affects reality TV shows what will Duck
Dynasty do? They'll be out of business?
John C Dvorak: I think they'd been out of business. Now.
They're
Adam Curry: pretty popular. My man. pretty popular.
John C Dvorak: I onward. Next I think is we're under what four
by five? Five?
Adam Curry: Yeah. What about
Unknown: the I've heard of the news, they've been saying that.
They're concerned about the virus being spread by the raw
milk drinkers. The Count of people that are drinking raw
milk unpasteurized from cows are the ones that are going to
spread the bird flu. How does that narrative get started? And
what's coming on? What's going on with that? Yeah, I
doubt it. Most of it is going to be through respiratory or
touching the cases of conjunctivitis, invariably, the
workers handle the animals and they touch their eyes. There's
been a few tests of products in the store where they find some
viral particles. And again, they're doing PCR testing. So
we're talking about grossly inflated positive tests that are
false positive tests, but even what they found is not active in
the grocery store. Now they're kind of zeroing in on who drinks
raw milk. I doubt that that's going to be a route of spread it
largely it has to be airborne and come in through the nose and
mouth a
Adam Curry: couple of articles to backup this disease X hype
CNN with bird flu infecting dairy cattle FDA is now asking
states to curb sales of raw milk. From right here in the
backyard bird flu detected in Austin wastewater who hair on
fire has blue blue hair on fire and stats sta T that's the
medical shill publication that we've discussed in the past they
basically take money to write articles. Allegedly, here's the
title how co2 helps viruses stay alive longer in the air. So the
guy
John C Dvorak: saw that article that says hilarious so I was
gonna put a newsletter actually, we really Larry, we really
Adam Curry: got everything we need. I mean, we've got the
climate change. We've got the we've got the vegans we've got
the lab meat, we've got the vaccine industry we've got the
testing industrial complex, I mean it really is perfect.
John C Dvorak: We have a guy another tester out there that
does the wastewater stuff and he says you his bull crap. Bull
crap says you centrifuge everything until you say there's
no really you just keep reducing and reducing reducing and then
you can test that and there's always going to be you can fight
anything you want. The only in
Adam Curry: there the only problem in fact, the only person
who doesn't benefit from the scam is Mimi. I mean too many
eggs.com is just it's going to be a problem when there's no way
that she could well no she can write a follow up not enough
eggs, no eggs. No eggs.com
Unknown: six so what is being done if anything just trying to
stop her hold these people accountable. It seems like the
only politician you hear about who still does these ongoing
about this matter and try to hold people accountable is
Senator Rand Paul. I know there's a few others too but
from your you're very much involved. of this fight for
transparency and accountability. What are you hearing in terms
of? Is there going to be any accountability for the folks
like Peter de Zack and Fauci regarding this gain of function
research that they've lied about? It's
been slow progress, but credit to Brad wenstrup Marjorie
Taylor, green chip Roy and others in the house, they
they've been plodding through this. They got to the point
where Datsik clearly is one of the CO conspirators and one of
the creators of SARS cov Tussaud's Anthony Fauci, Ralph
Berek at UNC Chapel Hill and Dr. shingling. Lee in China, for
people who created COVID that got us sick. Fauci was
pretending the whole time that he he was responding to this yet
he knew it was, he was part of the creation of this, and it was
all covered up. By the way, that's the interesting that
emails show the cover up. The recently had David morons in who
is Fauci, he's assistant, and they were using personal email
accounts, you know, changing characters and letters to try to
throw off the FOIA requests. I mean, these guys knew what they
were doing was wrong. Me. They created a virus, they got the
whole world sick, and then they tried different vaccines on us.
So
Adam Curry: Oh, makalah. Man, what is he doing as a guest on
podcast? He needs his own podcast.
John C Dvorak: With his family, he's got a foundation, which is
doing a lot of work.
Adam Curry: Needs a better mic is what he needs.
John C Dvorak: Yes, yeah, he does. Well, he needs a
Adam Curry: better rig, he needed to rig in his rig,
something he needs to be give me a call Dr. McCall, I'll send you
a rig. This is embarrassing.
John C Dvorak: So this anyway, this interview went on for
almost an hour and a half.
Adam Curry: I mean, the seven clips is a lot even for you.
John C Dvorak: And you're very I usually cut it I and so I kind
of moved into one little spot. I wanted to just get this little
last bit in there. And the rest of it, people can go to the
discourse, podcast and listen to the whole thing. If they want
to. I should send you the link to the for the show notes. The
show notes. Yeah. And but I just thought this little bit at the
end here was was worthwhile. I just pulled it out of
Unknown: the blue. And you know, and all the government agency
websites and National Security Administration, for instance,
says, Well, we think it came out of nature, but with the low
probability, then they say, but it's not a bio weapon. Well, why
do they say that? Why do they have to front that? It's because
in 1975, we actually have some legislation saying that we can't
be in the business of creating biological weapons. And so they
tried to put that out there, but it clearly it was a biological
threat. We all got sick from it. There's a paper by Farkas in
military medicine that's evaluated SARS cov tool along
with three dozen criteria for biological weapons and they've
concluded you know, SARS, cov, two meets criteria for this two
papers by Yen also show that so, I mean, we have to ask the
question, was our government in the business of creating
biological threats and then creating countermeasures,
therapeutics and vaccines? What
Adam Curry: Of course they are that's what you do you create a
biological threat and you have to have the antidote so that
when you know when your guys get it you can still be okay and go
in and
John C Dvorak: Danny, but it's illegal
Adam Curry: gambling going on there. My goodness, of course,
it's illegal killing civilians also illegal
John C Dvorak: that so the point is that he makes it with
throughout this thing is that these guys conspire to create
the COVID to virus that kill that anyone out there whose
family member anybody died, should really be outraged by by
any of this.
Adam Curry: The many more to come who will die suddenly.
John C Dvorak: And then the many Brian and the people who just
kind of have been dropping dead left and right as you brought
out the early part of the show, this should be outraged by this
and they should be outraged about this lab in Georgia and
they should be outraged by the North Carolina operation. They
should be outraged by all of it, but nobody's outraged by any of
it. We're not even that outraged. We're just like, Oh,
brother, there we go. Again. They're
Adam Curry: either outraged about the appeal to heaven flag
or the trans flag. That's our outrage. That's our level.
Flags. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Yep. Yep.
John C Dvorak: What do we do in the olden days? Oh,
Adam Curry: here we go.
John C Dvorak: I think the public would be with torches.
And Hangman's knots looses and be Dino no burning down that no
July No. Mal, no, we're
Adam Curry: gonna post memes we'll get I'm gonna post memes
when a troll um, that's what we do. We're weak. We've had good
times, it creates weak men. We're about to go into tough
times. We'll see what it creates you and I'll sit back in our
rocking chairs and laugh for more years. And with that, I'd
like Thank you for your courage and say what right just
John C Dvorak: can't find my my been cleaned up.
Adam Curry: Thank you for your courage to say in the morning to
you the man who put the sea in the courageous discourse, ladies
and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end the one
and only Mr. John Cena
John C Dvorak: in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry in the
morning all ships to see boots on the ground feet in the air
subs in the water and all the names and nights out there in
the morning
Adam Curry: to the trolls and the troll room stop running.
See, let me see. Now we are a little late. We're a little
later than, than usual. In fact, we're about 40 minutes over time
for this break. But how could we not just stop and wait for Dr.
McCulloh? 2119 on the last Thursday right now we're at 1989
So I call it a wash. I think we're pretty good. I think the
trolls are pretty good. I think the trolls are Hey, the trolls
are hanging in there because it was good. You know, and and
they're they're already they're already you know, they're
already teeing up their memes. The teen up the memes. Yeah.
Hey, man. That's what we do. Make it all good. I think that
sounds pretty good. Good. There you go. The trolls can be found
at troll room.io. And every single Thursday and Sunday
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how that works is so smart. And it can't You can't be the
platform for all this stuff. We built it that way. That's why
the broadcaster's are problematic you say because you
can't do platform them anymore. As those two podcasts are making
trouble for authors no good. We'll be celebrating 17 years in
October 17 years of value for value. No, I was listening to
home man. NPR did a whole thing on Alex Jones. So you happen to
catch any of that.
John C Dvorak: That caught a little bit of it there.
Definitely bloating. Yeah.
Adam Curry: And in fact, when we when we play one of these clips
here as a bonus, Alex Jones
Unknown: is one step closer to paying the families who sued him
for defamation and Perez Tobia Smith has been following the
story topia. Good morning.
Good morning.
What does chapter seven liquidation mean? Well,
it would basically mean that there'd be a fire sale
controlled but a swift sale of everything from Jones's
ownership in his company called free speech systems to his
personal gun collection. And it means the ball could get rolling
pretty quickly on at least some payment for those Sandy Hook
families who won that defamation suit. But the payment wouldn't
be anywhere close to what these families are owed. Jones's
assets are estimated now at about $10 million, which might
mean just around a couple $100,000 for each of the
plaintiffs, at least initially, and I say initially because a
chapter seven trustee would have authority to hunt down any
assets that Jones may have hidden and this hunting license
as some call it would be a forever thing because Jones's
case unlike most bankruptcy cases, where debts are washed
away and you could get a fresh start. The judge ruled in
Jones's case that can happen because his wrongdoing was
intentional and malicious. So bottom line, the families will
have a claim on Jones's future earnings for the rest of his
life.
Adam Curry: This is why I'm so happy. We never went the route
of a lot of these other guys and made 10s of millions of dollars
with no target. were unimportant.
John C Dvorak: To us, what would I do with all that money?
Adam Curry: We're completely unimportant. Like, we're gonna
take all of your assets you'd be like, what's this? What is this
thing? What is this pile? DeVore Abkhaz? Oh, no, we don't want
any of that. No, we can't have that collection. What's curry
God who has a dog? All right, good. Dog we have we have just
gone the value for the value for value route. As long as you can
still pay our rent. We're still doing the show. That's always
been the mission. That's always been how we run it and it has
been working so then we're happy. We're gainfully employed,
gainfully employed, I tell you, so one of the ways that you can
help us is through donating money, treasure, we need it.
Obviously everybody needs to make money to pay your bills. We
also like time and talent. We have boots on the ground. You
heard a couple of reports during the show. We have and believe
me, we have doctors, dentists, nurses. We have the law
enforcement officers military pilots, we you cannot think of a
single thing we have people who test wastewater Hello, this is
the best podcast in the universe. That's what's so cool.
We
John C Dvorak: do have I was a cadre of, of producers who have
high expertise in extremely specialized areas of society.
Yes. And they're all you know, that's not you know, that's not
the same as a legislative guy or anybody, which is who is a
generalist. These are people that are specialists, and very
seldomly get the recognition. They deserve to be honest about
it.
Adam Curry: That's right. And even then they usually want to
be anonymous. They just want to help out the show. Well, there's
other reasons. They also like their life. Yeah, of course. But
yeah, so that's how we know this wastewater testing is just more
bull crap. It's a bonanza, no doubt, you know, the testing
industrial complex. In general, we heard a big bonanza. So this
is this is how you can contribute. We also have artists
and these artists, they work and it's amazing, because, you know,
we're talking about experts. Many of these artists, in fact,
the majority are Dutch masters. And they create artwork for us
on the fly while listening while at work while slaving away at
their jobs, they still find time to create some artwork in
between. And it's great because we use those for the show. And
it always looks good, it's fresh, it looks great in the
podcast apps looks good when you put it out there and promote the
show, which is another way you can provide value back to us.
And lo and behold the episode art for 1666, which was titled
weird spelled wy rd came from none other than the very
controversial Francisco scatter manga. And he created a very
nice D Day piece. Which wasn't wasn't like we weren't overly
enthusiastic, like jumping up and down. But it was D Day. We
did the was Yeah, we did the show on D day itself. And then
we got a lot of positive comments. People say that's
great with that. Thank you for honoring my grandfather or
whatever else, by the way. So some someone from the Pentagon
got in touch with me. Again, our producers right, and said, Hey,
give me your your, your grandfather's date of birth. So
I happen to have this and he dug up my grandfather's draft card.
That's sweet. Why it gets better. He says every person who
landed at Normandy ought automatically qualifies for a
French, like Legion, Legion donor or slaughter. Yeah, the
Legion of Honor. And so as any said, Hey, we're looking at your
family history. It looks like because he came from Germany. It
looks like it came from Prussia, you may actually have royal
blood in you. Which, which means our lizard.
John C Dvorak: Part lizard Adam, yeah, I believe this to be true.
Adam Curry: I'm very excited about learning. This is better
than 23. And me, this is the kind of producers we have other
pieces. Thank you
John C Dvorak: for oily creations apart. That explains a
lot I'm part reptile,
Adam Curry: baby. There you go. Let me see other pieces that we
looked at. There was a lot of let's
John C Dvorak: start off by saying a couple of things.
Please do first of all Scarah manga has turned out to be
something of an a whole by being goaded into condemning the show
on the no agenda, no authority website, which I find to be I
found to be very offensive. You didn't even want to use this
piece because you were so upset about it. And I and I'm very
irked by the whole thing, and I might as well make the statement
now I am not going to no authority for anything. I've had
it with that website. I don't I think Aaron has done a very piss
poor job of moderating. He basically says I'm not
moderating. So we have a slew of a holes on there that are doing
nothing for positive for the show. They just say negative
things and they just condemn you. They condemn me. They
condemn everybody in between and they get people like Scaramanga
all jacked up in a situation where they shouldn't be mad and
mad. And so if that site is dead to me, I'm not going to if
anybody wants to contact me using that site, you're not
going to get to go go back to Twitter. Because I have refused
now to be it's just like everything else is some of these
guys start up and you have some body like Aaron are running it.
They don't do their job properly. They're above it all
they won't take advice from anyone. And it's like no
authority early in the in the I'm sorry, no agenda social now
nor authority. And before that, that no agenda forms. We've had
this happen over and over and over again, where people take it
upon themselves to be jerks. And so don't look for me they are
I'm not happy there.
Adam Curry: I mean, this is a little bit of projection because
I mean, we are the ones taking the Joomla So, you know, that is
kind of our own fault.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Where's that jus money by the way? Where
is it? The more CIA money but we don't get enough enough of that.
Adam Curry: I have to say check the PIO box.
John C Dvorak: Once in a while we get some agency money, but
it's rare. Very rare.
Adam Curry: Very rare. Anyway, moving right along we had let's
see, we had another Normandy D Day piece by Thomson nail. Man,
you kind of liked the D Day diapers from St. Paul couture.
They did which were they it was it was small. I mean, there was
just technically some things that I think were probably
didn't like it. I didn't know.
John C Dvorak: Not that I didn't like it using devils ever. No.
Adam Curry: Not using devils who not you know, what's
John C Dvorak: the point and we both kind
Adam Curry: of like damn Kenny Ben's baseball hitting the
mouth. No, the idea true i like i like to you didn't like you
thought it was too gruesome.
John C Dvorak: No, it was just the opposite. I liked it. And
use you threw back at me as to gruesome.
Adam Curry: Well, I repent. You said dry
John C Dvorak: await him as you're violating your own
gruesome rule.
Adam Curry: I repent. It's actually pretty good piece. Now
well,
John C Dvorak: it does. I think the point is well taken is a
little gruesome. Yeah.
Adam Curry: And then sir Suge did a, like a wheel of fortune.
Which I guess was supposed to be adios. mofos I guess.
John C Dvorak: Oh, I didn't figure right money. Now the
reason adios mofos
Adam Curry: the reason why it's kind of interesting is you know
Pat's a jack, this is why I think he did it. Pat say Jack is
ending his 40 year run as the host of we'll afford last
Friday. It's done. On on May 30. There was a rather interesting
episode, which I had not heard about. And quite frankly, I'm
surprised seeing the the level of maturity of most of our
listeners and of us. Here's a clip. Our
Unknown: first toss up is worth $1,000. Category is phrase and
off we go.
Adam Curry: Maurice, right in the back. He thought the answer
was right in the butt, which obviously fries not. Wow, that
aired.
John C Dvorak: That aired. Yeah, well, why not?
Adam Curry: Find rather interesting. Anyway, we thank
and congratulate Francisco Scaramanga with his win for
episode 1666. Now we move over to the treasure portion of the
value for value model. These are the executive producers who come
in with $300 and above and we read your notes and the
Associate Executive producers which is $200 and above and we
read your note as well. And this is a quite the anomaly that has
taken place here we have two of the same donations. These are
only the second and third of their kind in the show's
history. And it does, it's a recently coined donation amount
and we start with the Duke of Central Florida from Winter Park
333333 The very coveted robber lies your donation from the Duke
of Central Florida also a double show number donation he says I'm
trying to encourage others to match this donation so we can
all collect our challenge coins. Love the show thanks to you and
the other producers here of course is the jingle in the
Unknown: standby 3333 33
Adam Curry: You've got karma I mean wow.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. And it's pretty spectacular. And
Adam Curry: well if that wasn't enough random number theory.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, if that wasn't enough, someone we
haven't heard of heard from for a while Sir Donald of the fire
bottles came in and he uses the end he found some more of his
internet inner United Federation of Planets Starfleet Command
letterhead. And he also from Eastern Washington donated three
three, which is very strange that we have this two in a row
like this amazing. And we'll get them both those showed number
donations. Yes. He says I enclose 333333 33333 3.33 Which
I believe is the second Webalizer donation to no agenda.
Exactly third thing third it's the third now it's the third now
Yeah Please play the rebel iser number station jingle. Same
request this is classic random numbers should have more often
this donation is part of an inheritance from a dear friend
who passed away last year. And that's Ian's it cheers Sir
Donald unbelievable in the tank
Unknown: 333 33 otherwise you've got karma
Adam Curry: now if I recall I think we should make a challenge
coin for this
John C Dvorak: for the three three yeah
Adam Curry: the rough Are you kidding me for the for the
donation could you can we can we talk to Jay about that?
John C Dvorak: We could also talk to Paul couture who
actually designed all this right
Adam Curry: that's right he did all the the challenge coins yes
John C Dvorak: but he you know but I think it only we need the
design and contact who who to manufacture I think this
Adam Curry: is that's dynamite I you know I was telling Tina
about this and she's like first of all she's like oh wow, this
is so unbelievable. So she's so grateful whenever that happens
whether it was all donations because you know my portion she
takes right away and she takes it and says what are they
getting? I said they get verbalize her donation says what
do you don't even get some she said don't think get a drone or
something like a drone? Nobody drone but I think the I think
the challenge coin is a great idea. So thank you both are
working on Baronet Paul is in Fort Worth Texas. 350 93 So it's
probably a 333 I'm thinking this donation brings me to Baron
status should the peerage committee approval of course we
do. Jobs contracts and sales karma I can vouch for Linda
loose stellar services as Linda Lou packin at image bankers Inc
with a k.com Everyone complimented me on my resume and
the intro letter she wrote are super useful, as well as the
schooling I got from her on finding potential consulting
clients. She's the best. Please de douche, my girlfriend, Masha
Joon, who also who asked me to stop playing no agenda in the
car. She really she really enjoyed the Iran coverage as her
family isn't as Isfahan is worse is for hon
John C Dvorak: ammonoid It must be
Adam Curry: de deuced we continue to do that of course
please have baby making karma for sureno Pam in Knoxville
Tennessee. Wait I have I have
John C Dvorak: the baby making the
Adam Curry: baby Carmen You're right. Yes we do. All right. Got
the baby karma over there. Where is he's in Knoxville, Tennessee
where he'll be setting up a meet up soon. Very good. Please look
out for the pet treats for my startup bark bite.com All right
another another cool thing in the
John C Dvorak: people I think you should send the BART the
some samples to the to the kennel up in Port Angeles. There
you go. Recreate the wet nose in you can. It's listed.
Adam Curry: Does it come with vibrating beds the wet nose in
sounds kind of creepy. We're creating homemade dog and cat
treats. We're using all natural ingredients and using technology
technology to optimize the recipes. I'm an industrial
engineer after all, no weird ingredients. We'll be starting
at Fort Worth area farmers market soon. And then expanding
to our website. Stay tuned for delicious and healthy options
for your furry friends. We'll also be able to produce custom
treat recipes for dogs with illnesses and specific
nutritional needs. How about that? Trumps jobs karma? Why are
you rapping? Shut up slave that's true little girl. Yay.
And thank you for the sandy thank you for your courage. So
there's two commas in there a lot of crime was requested and
happy to do it for you long enough. Why are you laughing?
Shut ups. Slave it's true you've got
no and I was hoping that seems like my system just froze up.
Out there we go jobs,
Unknown: jobs, jobs
Adam Curry: there's so many jingles that everything froze
up.
John C Dvorak: William Ericsson in East Boston, Massachusetts.
Three Three. The shows have been on fire lately. I've had to ask
for a closing deal karma at work for a large software purchase to
hopefully close soon your newfound faith suit you very
well, Adam. And JC de continues to be a lovely curmudgeon. Yes,
I'm a lovely, lovely, lovely good to blend together like a
fine wine. Oh, really? Keep it.
Adam Curry: Okay, and Aspirus
John C Dvorak: get into the phonology of the whole thing.
Keep it up and you'll never find an exit strategy or may not may
you never jingles. I'm gonna come and ooh, you can see that
juice. I'm gonna come.
Adam Curry: Oh, gosh. Can you see that juice? There you go.
Agent 99 is here from LaGrange, Texas, home of ZZ Top 250
Associate Executive Producer. Thanks so no agenda for all you
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Release relations ship karma, please.
Adam Curry: You've got karma. Scott, the welder Watkinsville.
Georgia 233 75. Might have been a row of ducks. Hi, John. Um,
couple things here. My father ended up passing away in
December due to his debt to Cubitus ulcer. Is that what it
is? Thank you. Thank you, everyone in the knowledge in the
nation for their prayers. My son and I were with him at the
hospice. When he passed on to the other side. He was deeply
religious. And I'd been reading him Bible verses when he started
to pass. We left them a hot cup of black coffee by the open
window for the road. My dad had a good sense of humor and as we
had said our goodbyes I told the nurse at the front desk. If you
could give us a hand we could just put him in the work van and
we could take him over to the crematorium herself to save a
couple of bucks. She had a good laugh. Those hospice nurses that
ride the line between life and death everyday are so awesome.
They made that experience magical and peaceful. Please let
me clarify that I left Brooklyn for greener pastures in Athens,
Georgia at the end of 2020. And close to businesses due to New
York City government lockdowns the business I am most proud of
taught over 4000 people how to weld enforce and short for our
classes. The most popular one being how to make a cube I
finally gotten gotten around it's not easy actually. I
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John C Dvorak: I'm also I worked at a sheetmetal shop for two
years and I can weld we're well I will say this. There are some
people that can weld and there's some people that can weld and
there are some people Yeah, and you look at the weld some people
do it's like oh my god, how good are you? It's just like
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Adam Curry: Yeah, no, I'm not I'm no artist, I can get the
pieces to stick together. I mean, the real real welding is
definitely it's a skill and artistic skill. Sign up now for
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you for your courage. And as Linda Lou might say, don't
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John C Dvorak: Scott, the wellness, Linda lose getting a
lot of the ancillary promotion. Well, she's always Eli the
coffee guy by the reason Bensenville Illinois. He came in
with two under $6.09. And he says, I loved the last show. Or
I loved the last show art and wanted to recognize and
celebrate D Day A salute to the greatest generation as a
millennial. I can't help but notice the difference in
generations between those who are younger and our grandparents
cutting the wars of the first half of the last century made
for some tough s o B's. Good times make for soft men. Soft
men make make for hard times and hard times make for hard men.
What I just said is what you said you stole it from me. Can I
get a build back better jingle producers who love coffee by the
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Adam Curry: I'm having the Costa Rican Dota tarrazu The Snap
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Unknown: your freedom
Adam Curry: and Peter Mohsen is in Kirby's more side, North
Yorkshire, North Yorkshire. Yes, in Great Britain. I've been
there. I've flown there $200 And one penny and that makes him an
Associate Executive Producer. I do see no note from him. So
we'll give him a double up karma. You've got karma
John C Dvorak: and to round things off, we have Linda Lou
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Adam Curry: And that concludes our executive and Associate
Executive producers for episode 1667. By the way, a lot of
people notice that 1666 fell on six six which some people just
blew their minds and blown mind blown, baby. Thank you to these
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You can use them anywhere credits are recognized, for
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John C Dvorak: Your your favorite Topo Chico? From
Adam Curry: Texas Topo Chico? That's right. We
John C Dvorak: drink it all Mexico actually.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but we well, that's we own Mexico when we
took most of it.
John C Dvorak: Oh, sure. The Mexicans love hearing that.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: well, that's why they're coming here to hang out
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We don't read anything there for reasons of anonymity. We see you
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1667
Unknown: Our formula is this we go out we get people in the
mouth
Adam Curry: shut up Yes, shut up so they just shut up. Oh,
actually, I have a interesting just a little update, no, no
clip, no clip to play but
that's right, the ever ongoing vape wars. After remember, the
the FDA, US Food and Drug Administration really went after
vape juice and vapes in general and made it so that if you even
wanted to introduce a vape juice onto the market, you had to pay
them $1 million per flavor per nicotine level, which pretty
much cleared everybody out. Everybody fell apart. The whole
industry went dead, including jewel. And guess what? Now
they've reversed their decision on the jewel vape Ha, what are
the chances? What are the chances that they ruin an entire
industry? And then let the incumbent big wig back in? This
is why we need Chevron deference What a bunch of horrible people.
Yeah, I'd say it's really it's really unconscionable what they
did there. But of course you want
John C Dvorak: I have a cannabis clip from NPR. Oh,
Adam Curry: let's spark it up here. Researchers
Unknown: at UCLA say roughly one in five adults seeking routine
health care or using cannabis details from NPR is will stone
that
one in five statistic comes from a large study of electronic
records collected from about 175,000 patients. They had been
asked about cannabis use ahead of their annual wellness visit
in the UCLA health system, the majority of patients using
cannabis said they did so to manage symptoms. The most common
being sleeplessness, pain and anxiety, about 40% said they use
cannabis weekly inhaling cannabis was about as common as
ingesting it. The results generally aligned with previous
research. Those between the age of 18 and 29 were much more
likely to use cannabis than people over 60.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't know, I don't think this is
true. I think people over 60 aren't going to say Tell the
doctor that they're using cannabis. If you go to those
stores, you'll find as especially outside of California
find that the the pot stores are filled with old ladies.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I never thought it was a good idea to
have the pot stores and you got to show your ID and then you're
on record somewhere and then all of a sudden they're doing
studies on you and then doing news articles. But there's a lot
that they're doing, particularly when it comes to products of
addiction, etc. One of them being the internet itself. On
the medical
Unknown: watch for you this afternoon. Excessive use of the
Internet is reshaping teenage brains. That's according to a
new study by researchers at the University College London.
Alison cranek is a licensed counselor with Northwestern
medicine McHenry hospital. She is an expert on treating
children and teens who are experiencing an internet
addiction. Allison, thanks for being with us.
Thanks for having me
already. First of all, let's clarify what is an addiction?
And what is a teenager just being a teenager? Sure. So
sure. Last, there's not currently a diagnosis for
Internet addiction. However, there are several similarities
between what we refer to as substance use disorders and the
problems we see associated with heavy smartphone use and social
media use. So this includes things like cravings to use
unsuccessful attempts to reduce their use, feeling powerless to
change their use, and a negative impact on relationships as a
result of us. So when you start to see these things, that's when
we start to think there might be more of a problem versus teens
just being teens.
In some regards. It's a bit like alcohol or anything else when it
starts affecting other areas of your life. And this study
essentially said much like some other things we get addicted to,
it can rewire the brain a little bit more about that.
Yeah, that's exactly right. So we know that when we overuse
things like smartphones and social media, it kind of it gets
into our reward system in the brain, which involves this
chemical dopamine, which is essentially we do something
good, feels good and we want more.
Adam Curry: So then it goes on and on and on about okay, okay,
fine. We get it is but what's happening is studies like this
are popping up, and they're now using it for the following. This
is happening in New York we
Unknown: have breaking news right now is one step closer to
having two new laws that will protect kids online. Both
measures have just made it through the legislature and
Governor vocal says that she will sign them. One statute is
designed to restrict algorithms that hook kids on social media
and the other will limit the collection of personal data. The
governor says that the state will lead the nation in online
safety by implementing these new laws
Adam Curry: look for the following mean blocked for
social media is as addictive as cigarettes as cocaine as Oreos.
And this will require some form of ID to be used to sign up for
your social media website. Elon is salivating Believe me,
because Oh, you might as well just give me all your details.
So I can open a bank account for you it's all gonna be groovy
baby. Just trust me. This
John C Dvorak: is a couple of clips on this but I wanted to
preface it with with something that happened to me there's a
guy there's an expert on addiction I forgot his name.
He's a professor and he was notorious for being the king of
a you know, discussing true addiction Tiger king. And he I
don't know who to remember, this was like 25 years ago, and I was
writing a column about it because I had this thesis at the
time. That the that the mouse was an addictive implement,
because it was like a slot machine lever.
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, wait a minute. This was this after
the infamous no evidence article. Yes, it was
John C Dvorak: after that no evidence. And so I had this
theory about you know, the mouse and you hit the reward. So you
get addicted to the computer and you're clicking on you're
clicking, you're getting results. So I got a hold of the
professor to discuss this with because I needed I just need one
attribution so I could throw it in their garage, right?
Adam Curry: That's how we always do it. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: And he says, No. He says, No, this is bullcrap.
This is all these phony baloney, addictions aren't addictions.
Hmm. And it he was very strict about what's an addiction. It's
something you really you know, it's literally an addiction
where you'd like hooked on do heroin or something like that
the rest of this is all habituation, and all these other
things that happen to you. None of it's an addiction, there is
no such thing as an Internet addiction. And yeah, that's what
I said. But
Adam Curry: that doesn't sound by the way, I
John C Dvorak: wrote the column anyway, without
Adam Curry: it if the evidence doesn't if the experts don't
agree, just just say it.
John C Dvorak: Everybody else in the media. So why be honest?
Well done. Yeah. So. So I so I take some of these stories, you
know, because I actually took that to heart. And you know,
none of that there's not an addiction. If I didn't even I
believe he would say that cocaine was never an addiction.
It's just a habituation. So it's because people can just stop it.
So I have a series of clips on teens in screen time. Here we
go. And this was border line. Tip for the end of the show. But
if Doug wasn't going to do it, just go too long. But I'm
thinking about doing this as this sort of thing is a Tip Tip.
But this is again, back to NPR and, and this is more thinking
and some advice. This is advice for you and your teens. And I
think I think this is actually quite good.
Unknown: early adolescence is a time when kids are becoming more
independent and spending more time on social media. When it
comes to curving screen time in this age group. New research
suggests that what parents do really matters. And parents
Maria Godoy reports.
I'm the parent of a tween and a young teen. So when I saw the
findings of a new study on parenting strategies and screen
use among young adolescents, the first thing that jumped to my
mind was Taylor Swift.
Yes, parents screentime influences how much kids use
them. That was one of the study's key findings. Dr. Jason
Niigata is a pediatrician at UC San Francisco and the study's
lead author, it's
really important to role model screen behaviors for your
children because one of the biggest predictors of your child
are teenagers screen uses actually parents screen use. The
study
looked at data from more than 10,012 and 13 year olds and
their parents who were asked about their screen use habits,
including texting, social media, video chatting, and watching and
browsing online.
Even if teens say that they don't get influenced by their
parents. It actually the data does show that actually parents
are a bigger influence than than they may think. Oh, I'm sure
Adam Curry: that the kids see their parents. Dream scrolling
all the time.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well shaped in this household. Yes, this is
tricky. Guess where my phone is?
Adam Curry: I'm just gonna guess it's in the drawer. Exactly.
Okay.
John C Dvorak: And it's been in the drawer for the last year and
a half. And I don't know if it's affected anybody you do a
dinner. Everybody still pulls her phones out, but not as much
as they used them.
Adam Curry: What do you do when when people were okay, so when
you're at the dinner table, and all the all the young uns pull
their phones out? What do you do? Do you make fun of them? Do
you say something?
John C Dvorak: Something important, I should know about?
I'll do that to do the ridicule. I'll also say, Oh, hey, can you
look something up for me? You know, one of the things I've
always tended to dinner tables, so there'll be a little debate
about something I said, Well, who's got a phone let's look it
up. And I make make the slaves look this information up for me?
Because I don't have a phone. And so it's and they generally
do although I think this is a resentment that takes Yeah, take
like that.
Adam Curry: Like look it up for me. it up for me. Yeah, I like
how you say that. I like I like that. I
John C Dvorak: like that. Yeah, it works. After a while they get
a little tired of it. Now just
Adam Curry: to check. Do you still have a landline? Of
course. Okay, good. Is it one of those phony VoIP landlines that
you get from your I mean, I
John C Dvorak: hate to admit it, but it's actually comes off the
Sonic the digital I shouldn't have
Adam Curry: like a wire out the window.
John C Dvorak: Exactly. Because it has its own power supply so
the whole place goes everything goes dark. Exactly. Yeah, I
don't have that. I I'd rather have but I don't Okay, it's part
two
Unknown: of this Dr. Genuine dusky is a pediatrician at the
University of Michigan who studies kids and digital media.
She says she hears parents expressed feelings of guilt
about their own screen use all the time. Our immediate
response is like, I am terrible. I'm so bad at this.
But instead of beating ourselves up, she says parents should
realize that we too are vulnerable to technology that's
deliberately designed to keep our attention glued.
We have been asked to parent around an increasingly complex
digital ecosystem that's like actively working against our
limits setting for
ourselves and for our kids. But that doesn't mean work.
completely powerless. And a god test study found that keeping
mealtimes and bedtimes screen free are effective strategies.
Interestingly, the study found that using screens as a reward
or punishment actually backfired. It was linked to kids
spending more time on their devices. Instead, researchers
recommend parents work with their kids to come up with
consistent family guidelines about when it's okay to use
screens. And to question what we're really getting out of it.
Whenever we feel compelled to keep scrolling. I
Adam Curry: do not like her voice very bit annoying. There's
a way that her voice is annoying, and
John C Dvorak: she's very annoying. And the other thing is
the use of the word screens when they're talking about cell
phones. Yeah, yeah, because that's what we're talking about
here. And it's screens, they means on screens, I did at the
tip in there was that using screen time as a reward is a bad
idea. So
Adam Curry: there's two movements here in Texas, one
have a name for it's like eight or something, eight, eight, I
can't remember what it is. But the parents are now joining
together. And they're all because you know, if they've
one, one household doesn't have phones, it's no good. So the all
the parents are now saying, let's not give in the local
school here. Let's not give our kids phones at all until eighth
grade. And they're having some success with that.
John C Dvorak: But you know, a kid need a phone for in the
sixth grade.
Adam Curry: They don't that's the point. Now, the other thing
is, instead of a phone, like give them a gun, Hey, you want a
gun instead of a phone? Now you're taught? Yeah, and the
kids, you know, that teaches you some real responsibility. You
know, then they and they go to the shooting range, whether they
John C Dvorak: get hold up the kid, the parents for a phone,
turn around and give
Adam Curry: me a phone mom. Yeah, oh, these things work
quite well. Actually, I have some AI stuff, including a
little bit of boots on the ground, which I thought was kind
of interesting. You know, Adobe, updated their terms and service,
their terms of service. And Tom Starkweather, one of our one of
our producers, our top producers. He quit Adobe. He's
very mad. Have you heard about this? I mean, he quit it was
working for Adobe. Now he quit using it. He closed his account.
And many, many Adobe users are very angry about point 4.2
licenses to your content. Where you know, there's the usual You
grant us and not because it's all cloud based. You grant us a
non exclusive worldwide royalty free sub licensable license to
use reproduce publicly display, distribute, modify, create
derivative works based on publicly performing translate
the content. And even though they came back with a
clarification, because so many people were mad, and we're
quitting Adobe, well, people
John C Dvorak: get mad easily, especially when these companies
try to take your stuff.
Adam Curry: Yes, for AI. That mean that's the whole that's the
whole issue is like you're taking my stuff and you're
baking it into your LLM. And you're in essence using my stuff
to sell to other customers. They're trying to kind of waffle
around it, but it's not working. And I think this is a crack this
is a interesting crack in the in the armor okay, I didn't know
about this armor of AI. And yet this clip led me to a little bit
of research is from the rising
Unknown: free speech or free will. Former CEO of Twitter Jack
Dorsey argued at the Oslo Freedom Forum for the latter
actually
Adam Curry: that's not that's not that clips not interesting.
I'm sorry, I don't even need the clip to accentuate we've been
seeing these open AI people writing letters, open letters to
the world. Here's an article open AI safety staffers are
jumping ship, the jumping ship, because, you know, they feel
that that you know that they're not being responsible about the
AI. Political here inside the culture clash, dominating. I
didn't even know this. But there's a whole lobbying group
from open AI and other artificial intelligence
companies that are all in Washington DC. And, and an old
favorite came back when I kind of understood what had happened
here, because you know, of course, we got Biden's executive
order all the senators had a closed door meeting, because
there's hundreds of millions of dollars. That's a 10s of
millions of dollars, maybe hundreds. That is going into
lobbying for AI and of course, everybody wants to be the most
important AI on the block. But all of the people they sent all
of the safety people, the board members that were kicked out of
open ai ai, every single one of them including The person who
most recently quit, the co founder was kind of kicked out.
And this guy, Daniel, Coco, Taj, Hilo, Taj, Lo, all of these
people have one thing in common. Can you guess what it is?
John C Dvorak: There investors in AI,
Adam Curry: they are effective altruists. Oh, no worse. So none
of these people are actually technology people. Then as I've
looked into it, there, they all, they all had this idea that
they're going to save the world with math, this is what AI is
going to do. And they're all so worried that one day One day,
you maybe in 1020 or 50 years, will have an actual human acting
artificial intelligence. And they're worried about the future
me the future self, this is all part of this call this Effective
Altruism. And that's why they're jumping ship not because there's
any actual magic sauce going on there this doing anything. They
just don't like that, that you know that it's not being done
for good. And that people are making money on it. It's not
right. This whole thing is a farce. This is Dave
John C Dvorak: reminded, I'm reminded of the singularity
people what happened to them
Adam Curry: the same nut jobs hidden so this Daniel guy who
left their nut jobs, he wrote, I agree, he wrote a paper. Just
listen to and I read this to Tina, I say can you tell me what
this means? And they have, you know, this is how all these
people speak with the it's like, it's like they literally use
chat GPT listen to this abstract of his paper. First, we argued
that the appeal of Effective Altruism, henceforth, eta
depends significantly on a certain empirical premise, we
call heavy tail hypothesis, which HTH wishes to show title,
which characterizes the probability distribution of
opportunities for doing good. Roughly, the heavy tail
hypothesis implies that the best causes interventions or
charities produce orders of magnitude greater good than the
average ones constituting a substantial portion of the total
amount of good caused by altruistic interventions. Next,
we canvass arguments that effective Ultras have given for
the existence of a positive or right heavy tail and argue that
they can also apply in a sort of negative or left heavy tail,
where counterproductive interventions do orders of
magnitude more harm than ineffective or moderately
harmful ones.
John C Dvorak: These people are know nothing but since
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. I knew you would like it. These
people are crazy. They're in a cult. There's a weird sex angle
to all of this polygamy. Same goes with a lot of polygamy. So
that's the kicker. Look at Sam Altman, and tell me that guy is
now on the spectrum in a very creepy way. And they have
nothing. They've got a cool demo. Yes. You know, the
millennial male went back and forth with me. She says, Hey,
John C Dvorak: I'm a millennial male still around. I bailed out.
I
Adam Curry: know, she's in Portland. So she is she's having
a rough time. Exactly. Very happy.
John C Dvorak: That's worse than New York City.
Adam Curry: She, she says, hey, you know, I don't want to
convince you of anything. But you know, I find it I've been
able to code some stuff. I said, Look, yes, absolutely. You can,
it can help you code. It can help you write. You know, for an
unskilled coder or an unskilled writer, even the even the GitHub
copilot, it definitely helps with coding, anything that has
to do with language, it can help. It's not going to be
creative. You can't say build me something build me the next
awesome iPhone app. It has no idea what to do. And the biggest
problem is it cost too much money. And right now, and right
now you're getting it for free, or almost to $20 a month is free
for what it really costs to do this stuff. And that's the phase
we're in in any tech bubble. Eyeballs. Baby eyeballs is all
about eyeballs. That's, that's all they're doing.
John C Dvorak: I think it's interesting. I was more kind of
fascinated by the heavy tail, which is a derivative of long
tail, which was a huge trend. Oh, it's long tail, which was a
another Silicon Valley of one of the many buzzwords that comes
out of Silicon Valley. And they're always derivative. So
heavy tail, it makes no sense. It doesn't make any I mean long
tails. You can kind of understand it if it's explained.
But heavy tail. What does that mean?
Adam Curry: I don't know. I don't know. What does it mean? I
don't know. But I don't know. But they're all very concerned
with the world. And you know that the guy who started this
whole Effective Altruism, some Brit. Now he's like, I give away
hat. They're doing everything wrong. I give away half of my
money, you know to good cause that half of my
John C Dvorak: money half my money Bill Gates came up with
that scam. Yeah, yeah, give away half your money to us. Yeah. The
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation so we can invest it
Adam Curry: to the no agenda show what's wrong with you?
Well, that's
John C Dvorak: what I'd like to hear. We got a little of that
from murasky. That's for sure.
Adam Curry: So this end, and everyone's falling for because
you get these you get easy for you get the they are, you get
these really complicated. Actually, the
John C Dvorak: was a intellectual explanations are
very appealing to a lot of people what
Adam Curry: you get with technology press in particular.
And the New York Times has a technology guy who is not very
bright in my opinion. And all they do was fond, fond, fond,
because they want the founder interview. And if you don't find
he don't suck up to the PR people who send you free gear
and give you free accounts, then you'll never get the founder
interview. Because of course, we all want to interview Elon or we
all want to interview Sam Altman. These are the gods,
their false idols. I'm telling you, that's how it works. And,
and I mean, my God, man in video. It's unbelievable. I was
watching the keynote by the CEO. I want I tried to clip it. I
didn't know how he's talking about NIMS. And these modules,
and it's going to be the new world of manufacturing. This is
the new industrial revolution. I'm like, this isn't this is a
middle aged Asian guy in a motorcycle jacket. Give me a
break. No. It's nuts. I mean, yes, with enough power, which is
what they're talking about.
John C Dvorak: The power required for their new stuff is
just out of out of this and how
Adam Curry: effective altruists How does that work with climate
change? EAS how's your heavy tail on that?
John C Dvorak: Back to invidious and she mentioned him. I met
this guy I had dinner with him some years ago, before it the
company was what it is today. This
Adam Curry: guy the Asian guy in the leather jacket. Yeah.
Jensen, Jensen. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: He very sharp guy. I think he's at this point
in over his head with this with the latest stuff. And the
question comes to mind if I was going to ask him, which I'll
probably never get to see him again. Because you know, I'm
washed up certainly not.
Adam Curry: After the show, after, after Thursday show of
John and I were talking and about being invited. We never
get invited to parties. And John literally goes with a bit of
sadness in his voice. I'm washed up. So that's where that came
from. Washed
John C Dvorak: up. So So is what is the deal with this power
consumption. I mean, they've always been kind of invidious,
always been kind of cavalier about their power consumption.
While the whole world is going in the other direction, about
God, we gotta keep the power down, we got to keep the power
down. They've never thought that way. And now it's gotten to the
point where it's ludicrous. The amount of power that is chewed
up by their chips, they're doomed to failure, because is it
in the right going in the wrong direction, especially in a world
of climate change. But
Adam Curry: that doesn't seem to matter. That doesn't hit the
heavy tail. I'm just going to keep using this all the time.
You know, the heavy tail hypothesis of this is that
climate change
John C Dvorak: is big. But once you use that, oh, it's
Adam Curry: not the same. But yeah, I mean, yes, with enough
power, I guess. I mean, we can't even get back to the moon. And
the reason why is we don't have enough power. We don't have
enough rocket to get there. This the whole idea of you string
enough computers together, I guess you can get something out
of it. But it's just predictive. It's not smart. It's not
intelligence. It's just nonsense. And, I mean, all that
needs to happen is one, we need one company to say, Yeah, we're
scaling back on this. We're not in anymore. What will be
John C Dvorak: the who is going to be the first company to say
that I don't You can't predict that. That's gay, I guess jet
GPA, which company is going to scale back on AI first, okay.
Adam Curry: Chet GPT. Which is chat dot open. ai.com. Okay. All
right. Prompt jockeys. Okay, what is that? What am I asking
it? Give me the which
John C Dvorak: company will scale back on? It's a I plans
first. Okay. It won't answer the question. I guarantee it.
Adam Curry: Well, okay. First, I got to be a prompt jockey. And
I'm going to say you are you are a stock market analyst. Okay.
All right. Oh, no sits that won't work analyst. Okay. Here's
the question. All right, here we go. Let's see, searching. Google
is the company that is scaling back on its AI plans first.
There you go. They say there is this where's the evidence,
Google decided to reduce the use of AI generated answers in its
search results. So that's kind of weak. Google's decision to
scale back involves limiting AI generated content for certain
queries, man, that's not a real that's not really good answer.
That's, that's just chat. GPT slagging off Google not I mean,
that's just
John C Dvorak: especially at GPT. Looking at the news
stories, Yahoo. Yeah, exactly. Yahoo News and saying, Oh, look
at this well looks like just because Google didn't make this
announcement. Because it's such a failure. Yeah. And it
laughable failure, and it's creating nothing but ridicule
for Google. So they said that in a press release, and so they
picked the press release up, and that was their answer. Okay.
Pretty much, pretty much about it. It's all you can come up
with. Yeah. I know. They haven't dissolved the department. No,
Adam Curry: no. But we heard from our other boots on the
ground guide Microsoft, who said, you know, it's so
expensive. We had 20 people on one, one thing, and it was, what
was it? $2,000 a day or something? I mean, come on. It's
crazy, Chris. You're
John C Dvorak: just a hater.
Adam Curry: I'm not a hater. It's just I want to know what
else we're going to talk about. And we happen to understand how
this scam works. We've been around Silicon Valley long
enough we see it. It's a hype. In Vidya now is this one stock
keeping the the s&p 501
John C Dvorak: stock is keeping the market propped up.
Adam Curry: That's amazing. It's amazing. It
John C Dvorak: is amazing. I have to say it's amazing. What
else is amazing. Is this China's secret police. That was the
greatest segway I've ever done.
Adam Curry: I'm probably the worst, I'd say right up there
with some of mine.
John C Dvorak: But I do have a couple of clips I want to get
out of here. They've had these for a while I think. Yes,
they're not new, but it's going on all over the place and nobody
cares. Okay, here we go. A
Unknown: rare peek into the inner workings of China's secret
police operation. A former Chinese spy spilled the beans
after defecting to Australia. He spoke with NTD about Beijing's
tactics to snatch dissidents overseas, a confession from a
former Chinese spy. For 15 years he worked as an undercover agent
helping Beijing track dissidents around the world and northern
back to China.
Anyone that's against the Chinese Communist Party on Xi
Jinping could become a target.
The former spy goes by the name Eric, after defecting to
Australia has now going public, lifting the veil on a global
operation to snatch those critical of Beijing. Key to the
operation is a unit inside China's top police agency called
the first Bureau it's in charge of agents like Eric.
It's a bit like starting with the KGB orca estoppel of Nazi
Germany is a political repression tool. It has only one
goal that is to maintain the Chinese Communist Party's
controls.
And that includes controlling voices outside China's borders.
Eric was but one agent spinning China's web across the globe,
tracking dissidents and waiting for the right moment to bait and
trap them. According to reports from safeguard defenders,
Chinese authorities were able to coerce 12,000 people to return
to China from over 120 countries over the past decade. Many were
sent back to China without even their host countries even being
made aware. Eric says he was responsible for tracking down
dissidents in Australia, Canada, India, Cambodia and Thailand.
My main job was to collect information such as getting
inside the target circle to establish relationships with you
also to learn their plans and how they need to know what
they're going to do next. This is really important to the
morphism simply arresting an Irish person
Adam Curry: what does it have to do with the price of bread?
John C Dvorak: I find it interesting that they've got
these agents all over the world grabbing their own people
dragging them back they then they stupidly get somehow get
them to volunteer I think sometimes they black bag them.
But get into vol cow go back you know, whatever you say. And they
go back and get thrown in jail.
Adam Curry: Good. Get them out. Get rid of it, take them, take
them China take them. You can wait from at the border.
John C Dvorak: And then here's the rest of it.
Unknown: Here's how it works.
My handler was send over a list of targets. For example, they
want to coerce someone to return to China. And I will talk to
them to come up with a plan for how to approach that person
online and in person to see if I could learn them to a place
where it's easier to take control of him. One
of the targets was a political cartoonist called red pepper.
His satirical cartoons often mocked the Chinese Communist
Party and its leader Xi Jinping.
It was about the end of 2016. Derek messaged me on Twitter,
saying he likes my cartoons and wanted to chat privately. He
later communicated through email, he approached me as
someone that was pro democracy.
Posing as a real estate agent, Eric asked red pepper to design
a logo for a project. It went smoothly. Two
years later, this was a contract to win my crush, we'll assume
that
once the logo was done, Eric extended another job offer with
one condition that red pepper had to go to Cambodia for the
job interview. I don't know. But I
have a bad impression of Southeast Asian countries that
they're not safe. I don't trust them because of their human
rights records, especially Cambodia. So I replied to him
saying I wouldn't go to Thailand, Burma, Laos. These
countries are the top choices for Chinese secret police trying
to patch dissidents. Governments turn a blind eye to Chinese
operations. And sometimes we've been worked with Chinese agents.
Red Pepper was in the dark about the plan to snatch him until the
reporter from the Australian Broadcasting cooperation reached
out to him to confirm Eric's story. Turns
out the error and that was in communication with me defective.
Eric said he was coerced into working as a spy and always want
it to flee. asked why he went public with his closely guarded
secrets.
Of course, I have my own reasons. Some of them I can't
really disclose. But also like what the news report says, it
fits into my values. I have always believed that the inner
workings of the secret world should be disclosed one day,
Donald Trump don't trust China, China is as HoH I wonder how
John C Dvorak: much of this stuff we do.
Adam Curry: None of it. None of that. Oh, we're not gonna bring
people back. We tax you on the way out? No. I'm gonna bring us
back down to earth here with just two clips. These are very
important clips because the latest thing that everyone was
all concerned about concern we've moved, moved to threat
level concerned about Donald Trump concerned about his
revenge
Unknown: tonight dank on the campaign trail for the first
time since he was convicted of 34 criminal counts. Former
President Donald Trump increasingly focused on revenge
through a rigged trial in New York.
In a series of interviews, Trump implying that if he's reelected,
he will see payback against Democrats, including Joe Biden,
look,
when this election is over, based on what they've done, I
would have every right to go after them. And it's easy
because it's Joe Biden
in an interview with Dr. Phil,
he doubled down and we're you have so much to do. You don't
have time to get even. You only have time to get right.
Well, revenge does take time. I will say that does and sometimes
revenge can be justified. Phil, I have to be honest, you know,
sometimes it can in another
interview dodging a question about whether he would order the
Justice Department to prosecute Manhattan district attorney,
Alvin Bragg, who brought the case that led to his conviction,
saying, quote, we're going to see what happens you're gonna
see
John C Dvorak: what happens. Yeah, this is all mind reading.
Listen, carefully parse this what Trump has been saying and
he's I've saw it seen all these I saw the bill thing and all the
rest of it. He's, he's mostly saying this has to stop and I
don't want to continue it. You know, we can't keep going like
this. It shouldn't happen to another guy. Like, what happened
to me shouldn't happen to anybody again, I don't care who
it is. He's really going out of his way to say just the opposite
of what this reporter is saying. This is a lie. What is basically
is this is dishonest reporting.
Adam Curry: What is so cool about this, where did it come
from? By the way, that was CNN? No, I'm sorry. That was ABC.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what CNN would make a lot of sense, but
Well, here's inexcusable. So
Adam Curry: here's a CNN clip. Laura Coates. And she has Eric
Holder, former Attorney General. On the show, too, we
John C Dvorak: should have been arrested. Talking
Adam Curry: about this revenge. This is probably the most
perfect example of Vetches f being itself Mitch a cop door to
health
John C Dvorak: lawyer. This is I will I want to help you out
here. I'm going to preface this for you. This clip is being used
a lot by the right to show exactly what you said. But I say
you are I am. It is a terrific clip. You just
Unknown: describe a little bit in terms of the role of how it
transforms an attorney general we're not looking at things
truly from the facts purely from the evidentiary but And then how
to meet it, but instead taking directives on who to prosecute
from the president united states, sure,
if the President told a compliant Attorney General, I
don't like what this congressman said about me or did about me,
did to me the course of the last two, three years, whatever,
opening an investigation on that person, that attorney general
could tell a compliant United States attorney to do just that.
Talk to a compliant FBI director who could be replaced by the the
President, to open any investigation, and then to just
look through that person's life and look for anything that you
possibly can find. And close to say what you find in any
person's life that might run afoul of the law. And even
beyond that, the fact the mere fact of an investigation of a
person who is a public figure can be reputation ruining, can
be politically damaging, not even if you find anything, just
the fact that the investigation itself exists. And if you've got
the full weight of the Justice Department, the full weight of
the presidency, the full weight of the FBI, focusing on somebody
like that, that can be extremely damaging to not only that person
individually, but to our democracy writ large.
John C Dvorak: Exactly what they've done, exactly what
they've done. It's an unbelievable clip.
Adam Curry: And, you know, this is a pre tip. This is before you
get the tip, this is just showing you the tip, if someone
we are a constitutional Republican American, a
constitutional representative Republic, actually, if anyone
says, that's a danger to democracy, or you're a danger to
democracy, your answer should be You're darn right. It is.
Democracy, the founding fathers called the democracy, which is
what these people want. This has to stop, we have to change our
words, stop using democracy. Democracy is a threat to
democracy. Yeah, it's all a threat to democracy as it should
be. That was my pre tip.
John C Dvorak: Okay, you
Adam Curry: know, like, I don't have my pre trip, I'm sorry.
Back
John C Dvorak: to this. I do like it. So I have a couple of
clips from the last show that I want to lay out because I've
decided that and I have a thought on this. These are the
two clips of Trump off the hook. One of them is very short.
They're both pretty short. But let's start with Trump off the
hook. Georgia,
Unknown: former President Donald Trump won two legal victories
today. In Georgia, the Court of Appeals is delaying any action
on the election interference case against Trump until October
at the earliest. And a federal judge in Florida is postponing
key hearings in the classified documents case pending there.
John C Dvorak: It's all except there's another clip that says
pretty much the same thing. And I was listening to this stuff.
And I'm going oh, that's Oh, yeah, the reason is because all
they wanted to do was be able to use the term convicted felon.
And so these other cases are now who cares what there was as a
mag, we already have him convicted felon on 3234
felonies. And so that's all you need. That's all they wanted.
That's what they got. And so these other cases are all going
to fall by the wayside. They're never going to conclude we're
never going to hear about him anymore about the documents and
Mar a Lago or anything else because they got what they
wanted the moniker that's all they wanted was that they can
use in their in their promotions for Joe Biden to get reelected
and
Adam Curry: I think you've seen many of because you're on Tiktok
all the time. I'm think you've seen the clips where people go,
Bob, yeah, I'm voting for a convicted felon. I like it. I
mean, this is people are saying this over and over again. Yeah,
I'm voting for for the guy who who's a lesser criminal of all
of this stuff. It's a total backfire. And you still gotta
wonder, isn't a just exactly done to get him elected, so that
can do the big rug poll, and then have everything collapse,
including Nvidia. All of it, all of it in one go.
John C Dvorak: Man was played. I missed some analysis clips. I
want to play this one. There's two of them. Actually. They're
pretty good dissent. This is NPR they bring an analyst and they
talk about stuff. Play NPR analysis, Trump 34. This is
about that.
Unknown: been more than a week since Donald Trump was convicted
on 34 felony charges? Still early, of course. But any
indication if it's changing votes,
I think we can say that the conviction has overall been a
net negative for Trump, but really only marginally. I mean,
that's what polls had showed coming in that that was most
likely and it seems to be playing out that way. So far,
it's only been a week. Since the conviction. We'll see if this is
just a bump or something more lasting. More important is
whether this moves any key groups that had been wavering
about voting for Biden, in particular, younger voters who
had been the most likely to say beforehand that they could be
moved depending on on the on the verdict. This election you know
is expected to be close. Any movement on the margins could be
decisive, of course,
John C Dvorak: way he saw he talks about any key groups that
might be affected by this. And he doesn't mention mentioned
black males. Well, no, no, they started younger people are gonna
think twice about this. Black
Adam Curry: males don't exist anymore for people at NPR.
There's not a row not exist. You nailed it. Yeah, they're not
less than males are out. That's right. They're no longer
important. Screw
John C Dvorak: you black males. So streamers like blackmail?
Yeah. So I got one. Let me play this clip to this the NPR
analysis about Ukraine and Trump. President
Unknown: Biden is in France, as we speak, to observe the 80th
anniversary of the D Day landings in Normandy. speech, he
said the heroes of that day are so many of us now.
They're not asking us to do their job. They're asking us to
do our job to protect freedom in our time, to defend democracy,
to stand up aggression of democracy and at home
to Medeco. He didn't mention Donald Trump by name. But
well, this is a huge dividing line foreign policy between
Biden and Trump very different approaches to the world and
their Biden is implicitly warning against creeping
isolationism and separation from allies suddenly in Trump has
really made a hallmark of his own foreign policy, really
turning more inward. Biden is more of a traditionalist
believing that American involvement moral leadership is
very important around the world as obviously was the case in
World War Two and after it? Of course, the backdrop of all this
is the war in Ukraine, you know, Biden supports more funding of
the war and standing behind the country under siege from Russia.
With Trump, on the other hand, you know, there are lots of
questions about maybe how much territory would he encourage
Ukraine to give away to Russia in order to get the war to end?
This is very different approaches that we've seen from
Biden and from Trump, and very different ways in which our
allies see the approach that the United States could take,
depending on who wins
Adam Curry: this election. Your analysis, your analysis, yeah,
John C Dvorak: P. Trump is an obvious peacenik. And he'll do
anything to end a war, he doesn't see any benefit in it.
He's a real estate guy, not a military industrial complex guy.
And that's what's going to happen. They have to do a reset
here. Now, taking it a little more in depth where we think
that you know, this whole thing may be a setup, just to get
Trump in for some reason or other might have some influence
on that. But now he's, he's not going to let this continue.
Right. As far as I can tell, I'm going to be wrong. It's going to
turn into a war monger. I don't see any evidence of it. Of
Adam Curry: course, the real news is the the the new thing
that is sweeping, tick tock. Do the Biden have you seen the dude
the Biden meme?
John C Dvorak: Yes, actually, I I reposted it this morning.
Yeah. Do the body do the Biden where
Adam Curry: you just kind of squat down? Like poop like
you're pooping? Yeah. It's like everyone's doing it. Now. Do the
Biden dance. It's it's a very slow dance,
John C Dvorak: slow dance.
Unknown: I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all this evil who could do that? Oh, yeah, that'd be
fun.
Adam Curry: We do have a couple of meetups. We do have a
knighting. And we have some title changes and of course some
birthdays. And we have some people to thank our producers
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John C Dvorak: Well, let's start with Natalie. Is s o l o t e s
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York. And she came in with 150 bucks, but she has a heartfelt
note that I read part of his writing to make a donation on my
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played a pivotal role in his life and writing both
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journey to sobriety. Oh, about we have a sobering podcast.
Adam Curry: Who would have thunk?
John C Dvorak: Then she goes on she was very flattering. Deborah
King and Mary at a Ohio 133 33 Sir Rob, with a birthday in
Tacoma, New South to home my New South Wales Australia.
Adam Curry: And a switcheroo for a smokin hot wife Rhonda has
that sort of 62nd birthday. Excellent. Yes.
John C Dvorak: Which are really they fight a lot when he says
Adam Curry: but the making up 20 to 55 with their normal couple.
Yeah. And they said the makeup afterwards is out of this world.
John C Dvorak: Marilyn Osborne 105 35 another switch your rooms
serve pokey in Rochester, New Hampshire with 100 bucks and
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John C Dvorak: You send us some African news. We won't use it
but said no, we will. We need to backgrounders any we need
Adam Curry: Africa boots on the ground or bare feet on the
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no agenda meet up no agenda meetups.com The 11th northwest
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Unknown: welcome from the Denver City parks meet up. It's the
80th anniversary of D Day.
And with all due respect from Joe Biden,
I think a lot of people shit themselves on the beach of the
day. This
is Colin, this is the thing I am saying right now and I hope you
are having a great day in the morning. This
is Sir soothsayer. I'm working on building my bus. And I for
one did not put
myself today.
It's just assumption we're just checking in in the morning over
at the city park and come by and visit us next time
Adam Curry: for me to out. Sounds like someone brought the
gummies Alright, thank you very much Denver meetups on the
horizon. Today there is a southwest New Hampshire meetup,
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Unknown: with all the nights and days you won't be triggered. You
wouldn't be safe
Adam Curry: is like a bar. Like a pie. Like a party everybody
like a party? I have to I suppose. You have a lot. Why
don't you go first? You got a lot of ISOs today. So
John C Dvorak: these are all experimental. ISOs Okay,
Adam Curry: experimental ISOs it is everybody who
John C Dvorak: can happen. Start with the top one. Enjoy. Okay,
here we go. They'll enjoy the food. Yeah, okay. Forbidden
which
Unknown: is forbidden in Islam.
Adam Curry: Okay. Horrible. Horrible. The I liked that one.
Nice and clean.
John C Dvorak: Thank you.
Unknown: Thank you. very
Adam Curry: experimental, and a classic
John C Dvorak: is a new Wow. Wow. That's
Adam Curry: probably the best one. That's a good wow. But I
don't know I may. I may have you beat here. Let's try this one
country. ganda hell. Come on.
John C Dvorak: Come on. Get to do the show.
Unknown: That is insane. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Borderline borderline Well, what do you
what do you like? Man, I
John C Dvorak: think was the rest of yours.
Adam Curry: I only had to I don't wish that I had to. Thank
you. I think the Thank you. Maybe I can do that. Wow. Thank
you. And while together, let me see. Because that might actually
be a little better. Hold on. Let me see.
Unknown: Thank you. Wow.
John C Dvorak: It's still at the other way around.
Adam Curry: Wow. Thank you. Wow, thank you. You call it Which way
do you want it? I know it's hard to grow.
John C Dvorak: Thank you is it doesn't have the same intonation
as the wow.
Adam Curry: I think thank you. Thank you. And then how about
horrible and
John C Dvorak: horrible and thank you
Adam Curry: see, I didn't like the horrible.
Unknown: Horrible Thank you know, just
Adam Curry: do Thank you. I'm done with this. We'll just do
thank you. And now ladies and gentlemen. It is time for you
know what it's time for.
Unknown: Mastery. You just JC? And sometimes.
Adam Curry: Hey, ma'am. That's a jingle that's a jingle right
there. Thank you. Sure. All right, what's your tip?
John C Dvorak: Let's say you had to know
Adam Curry: you were going to do a tip off. You do the tip than I
do a tip.
John C Dvorak: I got a tip. Want you to do this for people who
this is a tip for people who have the habit of drinking soda
or water or whatever. And dosh dashing it with a bunch of apple
cider vinegar is either for health benefits, gut health and
have a leaky gut, gut health or losing weight. Go to go to
amazon.com and get the hengstenberg 13 fine herbs
flavored German vinegar seasoning instead. And use that
instead of apple cider vinegar. It is delicious in in like I'm
using it now that Topo Chico, you dump a bunch of onion, like
a tablespoon of the vinegar into the water and you get something
that's refreshing and delicious. It's Kingston hengstenberg. You
can look it up by putting herb flavored vinegar and you'll find
a bunch of people that make these things. Alright.
Adam Curry: I have three tips actually, for my tip, tip one
read Yes. Tip one. Never ever asked your wife to help you with
the tip. She was very mad that you should do your own tip.
Second tip. Sending email to me. Mark important puts you to the
bottom of the list. Do you see this? People who send email and
then go through the trouble of marking it important and then
even asking for a return receipt. bottom of the list.
John C Dvorak: I haven't had that probably for 10 years.
Adam Curry: Oh it has happens every day in my email program
which
John C Dvorak: because you never answer your email, I'm very,
very good at answering emails, or
Adam Curry: you don't even answer my email. What are you
talking about? Now because on Thunderbird which I've been
using to great success Thunderbird, actually, it shows
up as red and then it's very annoying. So I just delete
John C Dvorak: it when I see okay, well that's no good. And
disable that coloring.
Adam Curry: And finally, if you are if you are a fan of, of
making coffee with ground coffee, so in a filter or the
way I do it, which is with the French press, put a dash of salt
on top of your coffee. It not only reduces bitterness, but it
also brings prosperity to your family. Hmm
John C Dvorak: Yeah, them some dead dad some dangerously good
Unknown: tips. John C. With the tip of the day, he's gonna tell
us what he would do in every possible way. John, just
Adam Curry: There you go. We got to work on it. The jingles are
better than the tip so far, but we're working on it, working on
it. And some other tips but I decided against them. Just gonna
go with these tips. Thank you all very much trolls for tuning
in. I wouldn't go away if I were you because coming right up on
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I'm Adam curry.
John C Dvorak: And from Northern Silicon Valley, where
everybody's wondering why we haven't got good end of show
mixes anymore. I'm John C. Dvorak.
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great Sunday. Adios mofos a hui Hui, and such
Unknown: data that tell the truth is a bad idea. You want to
call it a difficult
game these days? Want to wait for us to get vaccinated?
When you make it difficult for people in their lives their
ideological bullshit telling the truth can be dangerous.
Dangerous business is that brilliant. When you make it
difficult for people in their lives they lose their
ideological bullshit children
in school. were put in class dangerous business forced to
wear masks. muzzled no one there still and
the truth is, is scary to you belong in prison,
Dr. Fauci while you and all your cronies get paid from big pharma
your repulsive evil science telling the truth
every day. Honest and popular don't go in the county or
something. If you admit that, you know you're gonna live in
this world that brilliant.
This is your own email. You just keep effective in keeping out of
the virus when you make it difficult for people in their
lives for crimes against humanity to understand many
respected their ideological bullshit
while you and all your cronies get paid.
You were lucky when Dr. Fauci did that to you because Dr. Idea
don't understand the meaning respect to telling the truth
becomes this huge.
Dr. House where
are you in our rock and roll band?
Training School were printed plastic bubbles.
Is that brilliant?
Everybody by me has an AIPAC person. It's like you're babysat
or you're a pack babysitter.
Little wall tape
sticks to the wall. sent me in and they picked Person C sharp
and got your cell number.
Like Gil. Now that's wrong what AIPAC is doing. Let me talk to
my AIPAC person. Has the Congressman been to Israel and
all the others fight? They don't have a Germany dude. I'll talk
to my APEC guy and see.
Is there any other Republican who has to do something?
Why would they want to tell their constituents?
I wish I could vote
with you today.
Brooke, every member has some interest firmly embedded in
AIPAC.
I'll talk to my AIPAC person.
They've got your cell number. Is there any other Republican who
has your
study by me has an AIPAC person like your babysitter, your APEC,
babysitter? They don't have a job. That's wrong. What AIPAC is
doing. Let me talk to my APEC person has an APEC person. I'll
talk to my APEC guide
mobo boruch.org/in Wow.