John C Dvorak: Take my potholes.
Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi Devorah
Adam Curry: second 2020 for this award winning combination media
assassination episode 1665. This is no agenda, reclaiming the
rainbow and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Old
Country right here and FEMA Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry from
John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon Valley where I see the liberal
media is calling Trump a convicted felon, by their own
standards shouldn't be calling him a justice in pacted.
Individual, I'm John C. Dvorak kill them. for
Adam Curry: about 16 years, it's been the same length of opening.
Somehow you manage to overstep your boundary. I did. And I knew
it too. All right. Happens all the time. happens to the best
podcasters Yeah. Yeah, you may step up on that mic. You know,
you're back in the back of the back room talking to the mic,
man. Come on, man. Talk to that mic.
John C Dvorak: Rather mumble in the background.
Adam Curry: That's your exit strategy mumbling in the
background. Sounds perfect. I think if I may make a
programming suggestion. Yes. I suggest since this all went down
at the end of 1664. On Thursday on the show today, of course, we
could have known perhaps we kick today off with a three by three.
John C Dvorak: I think that's a great idea. Now it's
Unknown: done both three by three. It's very recommend five
juicy work, comparing stories from ABC, CBS.
Adam Curry: It also makes people real happy when they hear that
jingle. Everyone's just like, I don't care what comes after
that. The jingle just makes them happy. It's like the opposite of
African news. And everyone, everyone.
John C Dvorak: Which I have 40 had African you. Yes, we do.
Fair warning
Adam Curry: of African news. Not a lot. But we do have some we
got some African news. Yeah. All right. So I'm just guessing.
This is about Trump.
John C Dvorak: Trump. Yeah, of course, the three by three and
of course, the main stream cables. Nobody listens to that.
They all had no God over Trump getting found guilty, but it was
a foregone conclusion, according to most of the experts. And now
it gives away something to complain about. Yeah,
Adam Curry: thank goodness.
John C Dvorak: So let's start with ABC.
Unknown: Tonight. Former President Donald Trump defiant
arriving home at Trump Tower after being found guilty as
charged of all 34 counts of falsifying business records.
Trump now a convicted felon, the historic verdict coming after
nearly 10 hours of deliberations, a unanimous jury
of 12 New Yorkers made trump the first president in history to be
a convicted criminal former president then marching out of
the courtroom with his lawyer Todd Blanche by his side
this was a disgraceful trial. The real verdict is going to be
November 5 by the people and outside court.
Cheers could be heard in the crowd as
news of Trump's convictions sprint.
trial lasting seven weeks 22 Witnesses taking the stand
including Trump's former fixer and lawyer Michael Cohen, who
Trump's defense team called the greatest liar of all time. Judge
one Rashaan thanked the jury for their handling of a very
stressful and difficult task saying you're excused with the
gratitude of the court court dismissed the sentencing date
for Donald Trump, July 11, just four days before the Republican
National Convention.
Adam Curry: Wow. Well, well, I love us naming some key words
some key words. A fixer, I always love that term fixer
fixer. They just throw that in there without evidence. Fix it.
When did he fix? Not much he didn't do a very good job of
fifth what kind of fix her is that? He can't even had a good
one can't even fix up a pornstar.
John C Dvorak: Now Yeah, but that $150,000 I should point
out, pales in comparison to the $850,000 that Bill Clinton paid
out to Paula Jones.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's what about is a man what he's doing.
It's what about ism.
John C Dvorak: But nothing happened there.
Adam Curry: Do you remember what Jim Don't you remember when?
When Trump brought to the to the debate he brought all those
women that had accused Bill Clinton
John C Dvorak: didn't i Yes, that was that was I remember
that. Another Grace done? Good times. Where's
Adam Curry: that? Where's the liquid back to those days? That
seems like awesome times now compared to this. Okay,
John C Dvorak: let's go to ABC tonight. We just did a I'm
sorry. NBC. NBC tonight
Unknown: FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP found guilty convicted by
a Manhattan I'm
Adam Curry: surprised that no One had like a hammer clunk.
That would have been a great sound effects
John C Dvorak: for a net pop of a hammer. A gavel, a gavel? Yes.
A
Adam Curry: gavel should have been a gavel in there. Where's
my
John C Dvorak: gavel here? I never use it as a sound effect.
Adam Curry: Yeah, give us a gavel sound effect let
John C Dvorak: me play it that's what it sounds like
Adam Curry: very underwhelmed very underwhelming Wait me
didn't we have Maxine Waters gravel? Let me have that. And we
have Kunal, we
John C Dvorak: have any sound effects. I don't think we have
yet to get gaveled in Sonic good. Oh, wait needs an echo
versus large.
Adam Curry: I gotta, I gotta, I gotta get here.
Unknown: Tonight FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP found
guilty convicted by a Manhattan jury of all charges. Now the
first American president ever convicted of a crime. Jurors
Finding Mr. Trump guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying his
business records to cover up a conspiracy to influence the 2016
election by hiding how we reimbursed his former fixer for
paying off a porn star before the election. Cohen's
credibility in this case was key. The defense team branding,
the now disbarred lawyer, who had been convicted of lying
under oath as the MVP of liars with an axe to grind against Mr.
Trump, while Prosecutors argued Mr. Trump chose Mr. Cohen for
the same qualities that his attorneys now urge you to reject
his testimony. Mr. Trump, who did not testify reacting to the
verdict tonight, attacking the case as politically motivated by
a democratic da in deep blue Manhattan. There's
a rig trial a disgrace. They wouldn't give us a venue change.
We were at 5% or 6%. In this district in this area. This was
a rigged disgraceful trial. The real verdict is going to be
November 5 by the people and they know what happens outside
of court. Boos and cheers
Adam Curry: boos and cheers should have been cheers and
cheers. I don't know why they didn't. Cheers.
John C Dvorak: Well, no, I think it's possible they were booing
Trump. How about that? Okay. Okay, so both these reports are
almost identical. Ah, let's see what the more creative network
Yes,
Adam Curry: always the creative with the CIA broadcasting
systems. CIA,
John C Dvorak: CBS,
Unknown: the seven men and five women of the jury decided Donald
Trump's fade in just over 11 hours. This was a disgrace in
Raging a former president who said the real decision will come
in November the real
verdict is going to be November 5 by the people.
Adam Curry: I just want to stop this for a second because
they're very interesting observation from net net in the
troll room. Why didn't anyone get any good audio from Trump? I
mean, was the worst audio
John C Dvorak: it's a good question.
Adam Curry: You know, it's like it also.
John C Dvorak: Yes, Echo is so cleaned it up. Do you know how
to do that? Yeah, they got
Adam Curry: Adobe. I mean, come on people, enraging
Unknown: a former president who said the real decision will come
in November. The real
verdict is going to be November 5 by the people
judge one Marshawn announced he will jump on July 11. Four days
before the Republican National Convention. He faces up to four
years in prison but could be given probation with no jail
time, Trump was found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying records
to cover up his alleged sexual encounter with stormy Daniels
during his presidential run in 2016. The jury perhaps swayed by
the prosecution's key witness, former Trump Attorney Michael
Cohen, who offered crucial testimony that directly
implicated Trump and falsifying the $130,000 payment. The
defense tried to portray Cohen as untrustworthy Trump's lead
attorney calling him the MVP of liars in closing arguments.
Tonight District Attorney Alvin Bragg who brought the case
against Trump responded,
while this defendant may be unlike any other in American
history, we arrived at this trial. And ultimately today at
this verdict in the same manner as every other case that comes
to the courtroom doors, yeah. rigged by following the facts
and the law and doing so without fear or favor.
Adam Curry: No, there's the fear or favor line. Yeah, that's
pretty they pretty much use fear
John C Dvorak: or favor constantly in his press
conference. There
Adam Curry: were several odd responses to this from from the
media, which I think we warrant some deconstruction here and
there to go to the to the most watched and the most outrageous.
This from the joy Reid show, the
Unknown: only other president who faced even this possibility
was Richard Nixon. And you said I heard you earlier on today
saying he had the dignity to walk away. And you know, it's
hard to say anything nice about Richard Nixon. But in the end,
he was a greater Patriot on any given day of the week than Trump
is all week long.
By far, he tried to change our democracy. But for instance, at
the beginning of Watergate, April 30 of 1973, he gave a TV
speech in which he talked about the judge that was sending some
of his people, ultimately to prison, John Sirica, calls him a
courageous judge. He praises the jury, he praises the
prosecutors. And he says to Americans, this is so
interesting. We must have faith in our legal system, because,
you know, that is the essence of America. It's exactly the
diametrical opposite of Donald Trump.
And Donald Trump is the only one in American history of all these
presidents who has ever basically insulted our system in
the way that we're hearing him do.
Adam Curry: So weird to bring in Richard Nixon, especially when
he
John C Dvorak: is what he's really remembered for wasn't
anything those two jerk said. It was for his saying, I am not a
crook. Yeah,
Adam Curry: exactly. So well, there was I have an even weirder
one. Which came that is
John C Dvorak: weird, by the way. We ever thought of it as
weird, but you're right. Well, MSNBC
Adam Curry: got the weirdo award for this. Here's the morning
Joe's show with Willie Geist, not
Unknown: much has changed. In terms of Trump's ability to run
for president the Constitution has only three qualifications
for somebody to campaign for the presidency. None of them
mentioned felony convictions. This is not the first time in
American history someone found guilty and then ran for the
White House in 1920. Eugene Debs campaign from a prison cell in
Atlanta as the Socialist Party of America nominee after being
found guilty of sedition. Trump also likely well,
Adam Curry: I like what you're bringing out Eugene Debs.
John C Dvorak: That's interesting for a couple of
reasons. One is Eugene Debs. If you go back and he
Adam Curry: was a commie, he was a commie. He
John C Dvorak: was the.he. He was a he was a commie. But he
would he is to this day, the darling of the progressive left.
Yes, this
Adam Curry: is what I don't get.
John C Dvorak: I mean, if you bring up anything about Eugene
Debs, and you put it in context, and you use him as an example of
anything, you will be adored by the extreme left. Well, because
Eugene Debs was a hero mean shot you right? Idiotic I don't know
what they're thinking well, well, a
Adam Curry: memo went out apparently about Mean Gene
because Mark Raphel Mean Gene damn Mean Gene Debs everybody.
Mark Raffaello. You know, the actor calling on climate change
trans Maoism, etc etc. He decided to breed a piece of mean
jeans famous Canton, Ohio speech. Listen to this and then
tell me how what is going on with these people. On
Unknown: June 18 1918. He addressed a mass rally of
workers in Ohio, knowing that his words could lead as they did
to his arrest and imprisonment. His sentence of 10 years was
upheld by unanimous Supreme Court decision. Here's the
speech that led to his arrest. Here
Adam Curry: comes garrafa I mean Raffaello. Sam
Unknown: Johnson declared that patriotism is the last refuge of
the scoundrel. He must have had the Wall Street Gentry in mind,
or at least their prototypes. For in every age has been the
tyrant, the oppressor and the exploiter who is wrapped himself
in the cloak of patriotism, or religion, or both. To deceive
and over all the people. Every solitary one of these
aristocratic conspirators in would be murderers, claims to be
an arch patriot. Every one of them insists that the war is
being waged to make the world safe for democracy. What humbug
rot what false pretense?
Adam Curry: I'd never really considered Mean Gene in this
context at all.
John C Dvorak: Very odd, but the fact that they dredged him up to
RE end to read that speech is either for cognition cognitive
dissonance, dissonance, possibly because what he's saying is
could be played either side of the of this argument could apply
to Trump one way or the other Trump's the anti war
Adam Curry: and democracy thing because that's that's what the
Democrats are always talking about democracy, democracy.
John C Dvorak: Yes, this is peculiar. This could be this
could be a, some sort of an OP. There
Adam Curry: it is. I should have known. I'm sorry, I don't have
to do it to you. Just for one moment here
Unknown: at the tone. A clip from the view will be played.
Oh, John place.
He was in that courtroom because of what he did. Right. Yeah. And
those jurors were chosen by
both sides. Yes, they were right. Not really convicted here
in New York, because New York brought him to trial. This was
not a Biden thing. This was had he had he just paid the money.
He'd have been fine. If he had to sneak some text and stuff
around. You either been fine, but he didn't do that. Instead,
he was cheap. And that's what you get. So he so can I say what
was your reaction? Well, my reaction was I was at Costco
buying in 10 boxes of Keurig coffee. And my my, my watch
started to buzz and I got so excited. I started leaking.
Adam Curry: I mean, do what's up with that?
John C Dvorak: Very got worse. I'm glad you got that clip.
Adam Curry: I'm not I'm sad. I'm
John C Dvorak: very it's like it's what is she talking about?
He could have just paid the fine or whatever that was that I
don't understand what what then what fine.
Adam Curry: Will be wasn't even speaking English in that
segment. Yeah. By the way, she
John C Dvorak: seemed plastered possible. She did. She said,
plastered.
Adam Curry: What's interesting,
John C Dvorak: I believe she might have been because I think
all of them are drinking, you know, toasting to this. This is
pathetic. And
Adam Curry: this is what Chuck Todd. Who is he? Isn't he gone?
John C Dvorak: What is he supposed to be keeps
Adam Curry: coming back on Meet the Press judge Chuck Chuck Todd
cast. And he's warning he's shaking his finger. The campaign
Unknown: that's talking about the trial is losing. Okay. The
more you talk about this trial, the more you're losing with the
voters, you need to win. Why do I say that? First of all,
there's plenty of evidence to back this up. I'll can take you
back to the Bill Clinton impeachment in 1988. Republicans
thought for sure running against Monica Lewinsky was going to be
a winner for them. It was not voters were like, guess what we
knew in our lives. Not only that, we already knew this about
Bill Clinton. We factored his character into our decision to
vote from an agent ID to Access Hollywood tape. Everybody's
going How can Republicans be rallying around Trump so easily
this time? Well, speak a little bit once shame on you. Right.
Will you twice? Well Access Hollywood take the Republican
Party walked away from him, but it voters did. And and that's
why I think this trial is not going to have an impact. Because
for the same reason, the Clinton impeachment had no impact.
Voters knew Trump's moral failings before and they voted
for him anyway. People would even say it, you heard it in
some of that sound that Chuck had. So I think this is I think
if you're relying on this, whether you're Trump and think
it's a grievance thing is a good idea. You're going to turn off
the middle. And if you're Biden, and you run on too much, you
celebrate too much. Look, this is a sad day for America. Hard
stop. There isn't shouldn't be any celebrate. If you're
celebrating. You're part of the problem. Do
Adam Curry: chip, Chuck target and Maddie up? That was weird.
You're part of the well, this goes
John C Dvorak: through just to interrupt that flow. So they
were replaying, I didn't see it when they ran it. But that Trump
went on to Fox and Friends and they were replaying it this
morning on Fox now that 24 hour streamer. Yeah. And I was
watching it when I had other things to do. But just Trump is
mesmerizing, when he's going on and on and on about whatever. He
is unbelievably good at talking. And you just don't realize it
until sometimes he sits down with the right crew and and when
he had three people instead of just one on one, so he could
cajole three different people. It was dynamite.
Adam Curry: What I found interesting is they so of course
they Trump comes out with an ad and I guess he raised a lot of
money is that verified like $53 million. That a verified number
John C Dvorak: that I've heard that number, but the number that
I think is accurate is 436. That's which is still a lot of
money, but they backed it off to say 34. So they can say the
following. Oh, one for each count. There you go. But that's
machinery. Without
Adam Curry: a doubt there are enough people in America, just
Americans who feel that the in general the Justice Department
is out of control. I mean, even just looking at them the FBI as
a part of the Justice Department, how they will go
find some weak minded brother who's talking some jihadist
smack going
John C Dvorak: on for how many that started during what Obama
or before? Yeah oh
Adam Curry: yeah the six weeks like now I think we first start
talking well no really we probably started talking about
yeah 14 years ago yeah, um, then they instead of like hey hey
Sauron sit down stop doing that nonsense we got our eye on you
know, instead, they start to sigh off and yeah, jihad is
good. Yeah, take this big this brush, just press this button.
And then he goes to press the button and nothing happens they
they SWAT him and then we save to save you again America. You
know that kind of nonsense is happening all over the place. We
know people who've gone to jail over nonsense. Yes, we do know
so. And then. So just kind of to go on the theory that they
really really want him to win the new Magga ad which is
actually says over a minute and a half. What's the bill Barr is
all over it and all these people who distance themselves from
him. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: they stat and also stabbed Trump in the back
at one time or another. Thank you for joining us here today.
Unknown: Earlier this afternoon, Donald Trump was arraigned by a
Manhattan grand jury on 34 felony counts.
This case is an abomination. It's obviously political seven
years to try to come up with this case. They're just wrong
on the law. The only crime that Donald Trump is being prosecuted
for is the crime of running for president political persecution
at the highest level. They've quite frankly given up on trying
to beat him at the polls either going to steal it or stop it by
law for
a democratic prosecutor elected on a get Trump platform. What's
going on
here is a disgusting disgrace. It is war on slide 11. It is
more on the Republican Party. The Republicans this case is the
weakest case. I've seen in six years of teaching, practicing
and writing about criminal law. I doubt the New York indictment
would have been brought against a defendant whose name was not
Donald Trump this
judge I mean, you don't need a prosecutor. If you have a judge
like this. This judge is not on the level. It's
a terrible case. But the judge has been pretty much a rubber
stamp on everything that Greg has wanted to do.
They've they're perverting the system of justice. That's where
the danger lies. The corruption and subversion of our
institutions by the lack of
this is the Democrats entire strategy to confine President
Trump to a dirty criminal courtroom and keep him off the
campaign trail where he can bring his winning message to
voters across this country.
New York has become a legal Banana Republic. They are so
determined to get Donald Trump, Donald Trump.
I think they have no cards,
Adam Curry: and they're depending upon Trump getting
convicted that Trump train doesn't show any signs of
slowing down. The only verdict that matters. Is the verdict at
the ballot box. Man, so it's bombastic. It's like hitting me
in the face with a wet salmon like
John C Dvorak: and Bill Barr has always been considered the CIA's
man. Totally. So he is not saying this. And the Epstein man
his own? No,
Adam Curry: no. So now, it's also I mean, I'm just looking at
all the different possibilities here. Because of course, it's
not like one Democrat party. It's not like one deep state
that all want the same thing. This is obvious that joy, joy
Bay heart, you know, she's leaky. So no, she, she's happy
that Trump is going to jail she thinks, which is seems unlikely,
although I still think an ankle monitor will be a cool thing to
do. Because yeah, he does this before everybody will be wearing
ankle monitors everyone, everybody everywhere fashion
statement as we Hey, exit strategy.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, go now you're thinking now you're
thinking? Yeah,
Adam Curry: we got it. We got to order them now. And I'm sure we
can get them from some Chinese outfit. There. Yeah, there are
some other Okay, before we get to that. The worst possible
outcome? Is that everybody? It's amazing how many people like,
you know, we can't have this, we gotta be okay, we'll just hold
our nose. There's got to be Trump, because everything else
is unhinged. And if they somehow managed to cheat, and if Trump
doesn't win, then we we fall into I think we fall into a real
crisis. And that may be the plan. You might be right, these
people are crazy. And we know that the media really calls the
Presidents they call the election. They did it with
Arizona last time.
John C Dvorak: So that was Fox I might add. Yep.
Adam Curry: Run by Democrats. So that would be the worst possible
outcome. This listen Rudnick Peter zei haan you know spook
from strat for and Austin sky is very annoying with his ponytail
and his beard he's he's ever you know
John C Dvorak: that you know we haven't heard from him for a
while that guy used to do these long lectures and we debated
about where he stood on the on the spook scale whether he was a
actual spook or a spook want to be I still wonder whether he is
Adam Curry: he's been ostracized I think they don't want to be
Dum
Unknown: Dum Dum he's
Adam Curry: traveling because I'm sure he does he has a nice
little career for himself
John C Dvorak: now making good money
Adam Curry: yeah he popped up on Rogen and said all kinds of
things yeah we're still waiting for Bitcoin to go to zero Peters
ion no go to zero I tell
John C Dvorak: you zero everything will go to zero if
you wait long enough 1000 years from now I'm sure it will be
zero
Adam Curry: Yes. Well that's a strategy Hello Peter Schiff. The
crash is coming. So XyO man it is I Han is on his way to the
airport, I think in Singapore and of course, he has to do a
video about this because he's Peters ion. And it's only the
last 50 seconds that are just interesting. The audio is a
little choppy because of the I guess, you know, the wind and
the car noise but that gets better as we get into this 50
seconds and listen to his theory because as soon
Unknown: as the verdict came in, in Trump campaign headquarters
cheers erupted like we can totally fundraise off of this.
And in Biden election headquarters cheers erupted,
totally fundraise off of this. Everyone seems to have forgotten
the views at the 10% of the electorate who are independents
are just kind of nauseated by the whole thing. independents
have decided every presidential election since the early 1960s.
And they are not going to vote for somebody who now has 34
felonies under his belt. So as far as I'm concerned, this
product has decided the election or other reasons to think that
Trump was already in trouble. But this is really makes it
impossible for him to win.
Assuming of course, that Biden doesn't die.
Adam Curry: He's a weird dude, man. maniacal laugh.
John C Dvorak: That was weird. He got today's weird clip day
from you.
Adam Curry: And there's more coming. Now, do you think
there's any validity to that, that there's 10% independent
voters who won't vote for someone who has 34 felonies
under his belt?
John C Dvorak: No, I'm an independent voter.
Adam Curry: Yeah. I don't see it that way. No,
John C Dvorak: I'm beyond independent. I've gotten non
affiliated, yes,
Adam Curry: politically homeless. Here's NBC with a
little shorty about, about what Trump is saying. Then
Unknown: a laundry list of false claims, grudges and grievances,
including against the democratic prosecutor who won the case
against him counts.
It's a very sad thing that's happening in our country
John C Dvorak: to hold on Stop. How come? This isn't?
Adam Curry: I know, I know. I know. But I think this is this
is from Him. This isn't at the courthouse. This is at Trump
Tower, where he had control of the of the sound system.
John C Dvorak: It could be
Unknown: it's a very sad thing that's happening in our country.
And it's a it's a thing that I'm honored in a way I'm on it
because somebody has to do it. And I might as well keep going
and be the one. The
verdict galvanizing the GOP behind him the Trump campaign
saying they raised a massive $35 million online in the hours
after the conviction came down. And with Republicans rallying
around him, there's virtually no chance he'll be kicked off the
Presidential ticket
Adam Curry: NBC Meet the Press had
John C Dvorak: maybe he was already getting delegates. How's
he gonna get kicked off?
Adam Curry: They got nothing to say. This is the dying elite
media network messaging network. This is nothing they get nothing
but this was kind of an interesting exchange. Republican
Representative Byron Donalds.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he has been doing a lot of talk and he
really is angling for the vice president slob.
Adam Curry: That's what it is, of course. Well, the
Subcommittee on what is it? That Oh, they have a subcommittee on
the weaponization of government. Wow, that you might as well just
shut it all down and talk about that all day, because that seems
to be the only thing that's happening what
Unknown: President Trump's allies are rallying to his
defense after yesterday's historic guilty verdict and now
the Republican led House Subcommittee on the
weaponization of government is requesting the Manhattan
district attorney Alvin Bragg and the prosecutor there Matthew
Co. Angelo to testify but For the committee and joining me now
is Florida Republican Congressman Byron Donalds
because you got to understand and let's be real about this,
the entire reason why these charges were brought now why
this case was brought now was to interfere with the 2024
presidential election. It was to interfere it was to trap Donald
Trump in a courtroom. Well, that's the entire thing,
obviously. Are you gonna let me finish? Are you gonna talk over
me? You gotta I just wanted to talk. Okay, let me talk. Here's
the deal. Everybody knows that the appeals process is gonna go
well into 2025. After the election is over, say what you
will about the merits of the case. We have never in American
history had prosecutions of the leading presidential candidate
of any major party in the United States. This has never happened.
So much so that Maine justice, their own of their own protocols
are that they don't do this in the heat of a presidential
election. But what we have seen out of the Department of Justice
led by Merrick Garland out of Alvin Bragg in lower Manhattan
on a fanny Willis in Georgia is that they do not care about the
norms of our elections. They just wasn't committee does have
a responsibility to investigate, you
Adam Curry: know, jump for the fact that NBC is letting him on
and is highlighting him again it just all seems to point toward
Yeah, yeah, let's let's put these messages in people's
heads. I'm sure NBC Meet the Press is not trying to be fair
and balanced.
John C Dvorak: It's an interesting I mean, we have the
thesis that they're the word is out that put him in Yeah. But I
just don't see these guys. And that guy's argumentative in such
a way it's annoying, and you try to cut him off. It's possible
that that the upper echelon of the network, so you got to put
Byron on it makes to solidify his but I don't think this this
anchors part of the part of the plan. This case
Unknown: should have never brace. If he wins, just
Adam Curry: to be clear. Here's how the briefing went. All
right, we're gonna bring on Byron Donalds, he's gone for the
VP spot. You just got to just go in on a man go in on him. And
the guy of course is weak against Donald this. Donald's
guys pretty good.
John C Dvorak: Oh, he's always been good. I've always thought
he'd make a great Vice President for a number of reasons. But the
one thing that's interesting is that he's not in the in the
running in terms of the top four or the betting odds. He's down
like 50 to one or something along those lines. But I've
always thought, but ever since those betting odds first came
out, which include man, Nikki Haley, which will be the day
Adam Curry: she was on there for a while.
John C Dvorak: I always thought that Donald all of a sudden
starts showing up a lot like he got a publicist or some buddies
bugging him, because he's showing up a lot more than he
should. unless something's going on. Well, let's continue. Oh, my
Unknown: gosh, are you gonna let me talk? Let me answer your
question. You are talking about a federal crime that has never
that has never been never actually decided by the Federal
Election Commission. They looked into this and they said, there's
nothing to see here. Alvin Bragg pulls it up as a state
prosecutor outside of his jurisdiction, and ties in some
bookmaking charge was no longer allowed to be utilized in state
court, all to twist it together in a legal theory to get felony
convictions. Come on, man, this case is a joke. You know it. I
know what the American people know. Come
Adam Curry: on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man.
I find a final clip.
Unknown: Let me ask you about your Republican colleague, JD
Vance. He suggested that the daughter of Judge one version
should be subpoenaed. Should family members of public
officials be considered fair game? Congressman, if you're
talking about the fact that the daughter of Judge Marshawn is
making millions of dollars helping Democrats raise money
online, and then that very fact has caused her dad to have a
vested interest in in supporting a conviction of President Trump,
that yes, she should, because her influence with her father is
one of the core reasons why I believe this case is going to be
overturned and says one more shot under New York not under
New York State ethics should have recused himself because he
has a bias against Donald Trump. And to be clear by that same
logic, then isn't the backlash against justices Alito and
Clarence Thomas for the actions of their wives? Reasonable? No,
it does not. And you know better than that. You're allowed to fly
a flag, like you're allowed to speak your mind. That does not
mean that the judge has all of a sudden is tainted, but when the
family is making money off of the actual trial that Judge
Marshawn is dealing with right now. That is an ethical issue,
and he should have recused himself before the trial even
started.
Adam Curry: Did let him talk about letting him say a lot of
things. Well,
John C Dvorak: I'll tell you this. I have a couple of clips
here about Alito. Oh,
Adam Curry: I have some clips too, but I'll let you leave
These
John C Dvorak: are the ones I promised on the last show. Good
because this woman Kathleen Clark comes on PBS newshour to
discuss a Lido and well, let's just play him in and I will
discuss what's what's going on here.
Unknown: elitist voices of America. This is NPR or PBS.
Still to come on the news our Supreme Court Justice Samuel
Alito rejects calls to recuse himself from January 6 related
cases. Despite a flag controversy, US Supreme Court
Justice Samuel Alito told lawmakers today he won't recuse
himself from cases involving the 2020 presidential election or
the January 6 Capital riot. That's despite concerns about
two flags associated with far right causes that have flown
over his properties. Responding to demands from Democrats that
he disqualify himself, Alito said in two letters that his
wife, Martha and Alito was responsible for flying the
flags. My wife is an independently minded private
citizen, the Justice wrote, she makes her own decisions, and I
honor her right to do so. Kathleen Clark is with us. She's
a law professor at Washington University in St. Louis. And she
specializes in government ethics. Thanks for being with
us. So the New York Times reported that there was this
upside down American flag display that Alito is Virginia
home in the days before President Biden's inauguration.
And in the letter that he issued today, the Justice said he had
nothing whatsoever to do with the flag. He was not aware of
it. When he became aware of it. He asked his wife to take it
down. But she refused for several days. And he says my
wife and I own our Virginia home jointly, she therefore has the
legal right to use the property as she sees fit. Is that an
adequate explanation from an ethics perspective? No,
it is not. Justice Alito is accurate in saying that his wife
has a legal right to display a flag in front of a house that
she co owns with him. No one's questioning her legal rights.
The issue is whether he needs to recuse once it has become clear
that his you know, this, this, this flag associated with the
January 6 insurrection was displayed in front of a house he
co owns.
Adam Curry: I'm just gonna stop right here for a second. This
association thing that they're pulling is horse crap. You can't
take you know, two, four years of history and say, Oh, that's
that's what the flags about when both of these flags are about
very different things. The orange, I don't
John C Dvorak: remember seeing either of those flags at the
insurrection. In fact, you saw mostly Trump flags and American
flags in the US, you know, set up properly. So there's the
American flag representative of this too. And
Adam Curry: even if even if I'm flying my flag upside down on
July 4, it doesn't mean that I'm an insurrectionists. It means I
feel our country is in distress, if you want to fly that and
there were some pine tree flags, which but but they what they've
determined now, they they the elites have determined that this
is associated therefore even just an American flag. This is
happening right now in Taylor, Texas, where the Austin LGBTQ
plus crowd came in. And some poor woman the Christmas parade
two years ago at the city hall townhall saw a request for a
Taylor pride float and went okay, is it Taylor pride way to
go we're prideful of Taylor. And then they threw some Austin What
do you call them? The transvestites? The? The word? I
don't know. Yeah. The from the story. Our
John C Dvorak: Oh, the drag queens, Queens?
Adam Curry: Yes. So they threw some Austin drag queens on that
flow night. And then the cut. And then the churches as they
call them. The church, you could have a lot of people from like
the churches, a lot of people from Austin and moving out, you
know, moving out to places moving out Taylor's, like 45
minutes above Austin. And so they will order the churches.
Oh, of course, the churches have been in this town for, you know,
several 100 years. And now it's gotten to the point where you
have and there's not a lot of restaurants in Taylor's very
small. You'd have you know, there's a restaurant that will
fly the LGBTQ pride flag and no one goes in from the churches.
But then you have an American flag, just an American flag on
your restaurant. And none of the none of the newcomers will will
go in. It's like this flag thing. Flags are important, but
the American flag is the American flag. The appeal to
heaven flags the appeal to have been flagged that has nothing to
do with with January 6, other than the the news of people here
saying it's odd, because clearly associated, you must recuse is
your recuse. So you can't do anything with Chevron deference.
John C Dvorak: That's really what this is about a debate at
the base level. But there's another little subtext here,
which nobody seems to pick up on, especially at PBS. And I
even after the second clip, I will explain something about
this woman is that she and PBS all demand that that Alito, his
wife obey Alito, like she's the slave woman that we're, you
know, the house, the house worker, whatever I use that term
I use housekeeper had a housekeeper and she's posted to
do what what the man
Adam Curry: says, yes, do what the man says stop it. Woman.
John C Dvorak: It's very clear when you listen to this
discussion that she's the one because she didn't do what the
husband said. I mean, I'm listening to this, listen to
these lefties pull this stunt. This is just as bad as the, you
know, cut not calling Trump justice impaired. I mean, it's
just make up your minds people. But okay, let's talk
Unknown: about his wife's first amendment rights. This is about
recusal obligations that Congress has imposed on justices
and judges.
Well, in his letter, he also addressed the more recent
reporting, by the times that there was this appeal to heaven
flag that flew at his beach home in New Jersey. This is a flag
that was also carried by January 6, rioters and in his letter, he
says, I was not familiar with the appeal to heaven flag when
my wife flew it, she may have mentioned that it dates back to
the American Revolution. And I assumed she was flying it to
express a religious and patriotic message. I was not
aware of any connection between this historic flag and the stop
the steel movement, and neither was my wife. She did not fly it
to associate herself with that or any other group. As I said,
in reference to the other flag event. My wife is an
independently minded private citizen, she makes her own
decisions, and I honor her right to do so our vacation home was
purchased with money she inherited from her parents, and
is titled in her name. It is a place away from Washington,
where she should be able to relax. Again, your assessment of
this explanation.
This is A Closer call if indeed, this is a home that Justice
Alito doesn't have any, you know, legal rights to if that is
the case. But again, the issue isn't just subjectively what was
injustice, Alito is mine. Congress mandate mind reader
justices, recused disqualify themselves if their impartiality
might reasonably be questioned. It's not enough to say that, you
know, as Justice Alito was, you know, ignorant. The question is
whether it's reasonable for people to question his
impartiality in these cases related to the January 6
insurrection.
John C Dvorak: All right, first of all, so I looked this woman
up on open secrets, and she's a donate or democrat party, and
I've got me without even going through, and it's very easy to
find her. She's in St. Louis, and she's a professor. And as
they list the in open secrets, they often list the profession.
And that was easy to find. And I only went through, there's 1000s
of Kathleen Clark's. And I only went to the after I got to the
third one, when she sent money to Claire McCaskill. I said,
Okay, I got three, that's enough. They're all Democrats
and she gets, so why didn't she recuse herself or even being on
PBS? And why does PBS only pull people? You know, there's no
object somebody like this. She's a Democrat. She's an obvious
Democrat. She's a plant. She's a stooge. And PBS pulled that
twice in that same show. The second thing they did in that
show, instead of trying to get any fair, they've given up on
fair and balanced. They brought on to discuss Republican
politics, that creep Joe Walsh, who was a one term, one term US
congressman, he was booted up by the Republicans because he they
think they primary primary dimout. And Joe Walsh comes on
and he's gonna give the he's going to tell us all about
Republican he's a one term US representative. He goes on and
about, about how the Republicans are screwed up because they're
not giving more credit to people like Adam Kinzinger. This is
actually what he said, Adam Kissinger, the crybaby and
Cheney. Whatever, I can't remember her first name. And he
goes on and on about how the Republicans are screwed up
because they're all dedicated to Trump. He's a Trump hater and
they Bring him on to give us a perspective from the Republican
side. This is bullcrap PBS just stinks. They have no intention
of giving us a balanced report. They're terrible. They should
nobody should be giving him money. The government shouldn't
be giving him money. And if anybody out there subscribes to
anything PBS does send us the money. John C
Unknown: to borax diva today.
John C Dvorak: Well, you told him actually have Yeah, it's
gonna do a lot of good. I have well got it off my chest.
Adam Curry: You did? You did I have. In this case, I have two.
Two clips regarding the flag game that why don't they call it
flag gate, who flag it and write it down. And by the way, this is
really detracting from my pride month. No one's talking about
our pride flags. saying like, no, there's like no pride
celebration right now. So here's Dick Durbin, who was on the I
think the Justice Committee. He's on some kind of justice
something. And of course he has to weigh in about this
impartiality of the judge. What can we do? There's got to be
something in the Constitution, can we do something can we do
something did them dig W
Unknown: three courses under the Constitution are very limited,
but let's look it over we have before us. The first flag flying
the American flag upside down as a as a distress signal at his
home. He dismissed is a momentary emotional lapse of his
wife making that decision. Now we have the second flag, which
is some symbolism on the radical right, being flown in his
vacation residence,
Adam Curry: hold on some symbol, know, what's
John C Dvorak: his labor rate described it some crazy symbol
of the radical right, some
Unknown: symbolism on the radical right, being flown at
his vacation residence. And you start to wonder, is this just a
chance indiscretion, or is it a conscious declaration of
omega loyalty? Maga loyalty?
When it gets right down to it, our courts and justices don't
have an army to enforce their opinions. They don't have the
money to establish a an account for media control. What they
have is the respect for integrity of the American
people. And this really raises a serious question when we have
someone in the highest court in the land, who is supporting
these political flag flags at his residence and he
Adam Curry: said facts. I heard it hold on a second. He said
political facts who's
Unknown: supporting these political flag flags
John C Dvorak: of your race head fakes and flags. Wow, we caught
your dick. So you know this, how is this different than the
accusations that Crump is a criminal? She's at least is is
subverting the justice system. This is a subversion of the
justice system, the judicial system to be specific, and also,
the Supreme Court is the same thing. I don't see how Crump is
any different Can I ask
Adam Curry: you is that Crump with a que? Si? Oh, it's with a
C? Alright. I think K is funnier. Crump.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but it's C in my mind. Okay. Crump Crump,
is encrypt, you know, like Crump.
Adam Curry: Now what is the process to remove a Supreme
Court justice?
John C Dvorak: Yes, you get impeached, I think, yeah, well,
who can do that? I think the Congress can but that'll be the
day. Good luck with that.
Adam Curry: Good luck with that. So John Grisham but I didn't
know he was a lefty. The author John Grisham, but maybe he's not
but he went on the, on the view, I hate to do it because
John C Dvorak: but it's he said, It's okay to get you're gonna
play another view clip.
Adam Curry: I know. But it's really John Grisham is not about
the view. It's just John Grisham. And then the views
apologizing for what he said was really quite interesting this
Unknown: well, when you read my history, you better be careful
because I'm not really noted for accuracy.
imitating life really, I think is what you're juggling. But
life right now in the courtroom is getting a little scary. I
mean, let's take the supreme court right now. A lot of people
have issues with them there. There's some scandals plaguing
the Supreme Court. Do you have any thoughts on that? And you
already write a book or ever make a movie out of that?
I wrote a great book called The Pelican Brief.
In which two Supreme Court justices were assassinated. Yes.
And I thought it But doing it again?
No, no, no, no. The
writing part two,
he's talking about writing.
Adam Curry: Fiction. How about that? I mean, he said that with
a straight face. That was a line he practiced. I'm thinking about
doing it again. There really threatening Supreme Court
justice. Oh, no. He's just like they should buy movie a book.
It's books all
Unknown: fit. It's all fictional. It's just fiction.
It's made up stories court has never looked this bad.
John C Dvorak: Court has never looked this bad. What's he
talking about? They look fine.
Adam Curry: They look actually pretty handsome and cute. He
hears the rest of the clip now
Unknown: in my lifetime. The some of the rulings the ethical
challenges. The the Erica went downhill in 2000 when five
Republicans on the court chose to elect the president. Oh, yes.
Most political Bush versus gore. Yeah. And that's that's when it
all started really going down. I agree with Bob before decision,
and the court has its gets gets worse every term.
John C Dvorak: You know, I should remind everybody that the
Miami Herald went through all the ballots and hanging chads
and all the rest of it. And they determined that Bush won Florida
what he
Adam Curry: just did there he he is an election denier.
John C Dvorak: Well, let's get to the super clip I have then I
have an objection to the electoral votes.
Unknown: The objection is in writing. And I don't care that
it is not it is not signed by a member of the Senate.
There are still legitimate concerns over the integrity of
our elections, and of ensuring the principle of one person one
vote, but constantly shifting vote, tallies in Ohio, and
malfunctioning Athlon electronic machines, which may not have
paper receipts have led to additional loss of confidence by
the public. This is their only opportunity to have this debate
while the country is listening. And it is appropriate to do so
but objected
to the counting of electoral votes of the state of Ohio.
I agree with 10s of millions of Americans who are very worried
that when they cast the ballot on an electronic voting machine,
that there is no paper trail to report trail that vote because
10 of the 29 electoral votes cast by Florida were cast by
electors not lawfully certified
Adam Curry: is
Unknown: the objection in writing and signed not only by
the members of the House represented but also by Senate
is in writing. Mr.
President, I object to this certificate from the state of
Georgia on the grounds that the electoral vote objective
certificate from the state of North Carolina
I object because people are horrified. I object
object to the certificate from the state of Alabama,
to 15 volts from the state of North Carolina because of the
massive voter suppression. I do not wish to debate. I wish to
ask is there one United States senator who will join me in this
letter? If Stacey Abrams doesn't win in Georgia baseball, it it's
clear. It's clear, Claire, I would say say that publicly.
It's clear. It's votes remain to be counted. There are voices
that were waiting to be heard. And I will not concede back then
I respect where you're coming from. And I respect that the the
issues that you're raising, you're not answering the
question. Do you think you're not using the word legitimate?
You can run the best campaign. You can even become the nominee.
And you can have the election stolen from you.
He knows he's an illegitimate president.
Adam Curry: Yeah, baby supercut. Nice. Yeah. What led you down?
That path was beautiful.
John C Dvorak: But you do good work? Yes.
Adam Curry: We had a runoff election here. And a couple
things that went down. We had our local elections and our
state election Gillespie County, which is home to Fredericksburg,
Texas. We set out on somehow some smart patriots got in there
and said we're doing hand count. We're not doing voting machines.
And oh boy, we have one newspaper here comes out once a
week. The Fredericksburg standard Radio Flyer Gazette
which is a very very lefty newspaper of course it's the
newspapers actual newspaper still. And then we're running
headlines. This cost 27,000 extra dollars that we could have
put towards something useful and
John C Dvorak: but I guess sending all that the billions to
Ukraine is okay by these guys. Yeah,
Adam Curry: we don't have a lot of Ukraine flags flying around
here anymore. That ended pretty quick once people caught on.
Anyway, we got we literally have a new sheriff in town buddy is
out. buddies at Chris AR is an and there's going to be some
head cracking going on. Because he's like, oh, yeah, we're not
gonna have any, any cartel here, we have cartel here, and he's
gonna get rid of the cartel, he's gonna make sure that the
buses can't come up I 10 and 87 is going to be this is going to
be the center of controversy with the new shirts like it
already. And the best part is my friend, the former police
officer from Kerrville, with anger management issues, he's
going to be Lieutenant. Oh,
John C Dvorak: sure exactly what you want. That's where you will
come up with anger management issues.
Adam Curry: It'd be great.
John C Dvorak: If you're on the wrong side of the billy club,
now, there's
Adam Curry: only one thing this there's still the news media
there. I think they may be just doing this as a backup plan.
There's all kinds of bonuses for this, of course, because of
their own pay masters, but they're still pushing to an
extreme degree, which is why I have to play some clips. Again,
I'll keep doing it because we're not going to be kerfuffles like
four years ago. It's bird flu baby. So
Unknown: Dr. gounder, this farm worker exhibited respiratory
systems, symptoms rather unlike the first two human cases. So
what do we need to know about this one?
Adam Curry: Oh, by the way, respiratory now? Oh, it's
respiratory. And and there's a theme here. Everyone wants to
know if they should be concerned? Should I be concerned
about should I be concerned, we be concerned about this? Well,
Unknown: what's really important here is to understand that if
it's respiratory, it's easier to transmit onward to other people.
So if the virus is just in the eye, that's going to be harder
to pass on to others, I got some virus, it's in your respiratory
system, nothing is going to be easier to spread around.
So who is that most risk of getting bird flu?
Well, the risk to the general public is still considered to be
very low by the CDC. However, we know that farm workers are being
exposed very heavily. And so if somebody is a farm worker,
especially if they're working with dairy cows, they are at
risk for h five and one bird flu.
Adam Curry: I mean, what does it even mean? They are at risk very
heavily. How many risk very I'm gonna risk very heavily crossing
the street. Now, I said that, you know, there's multiple
reasons why they're doing this. Here's one,
Unknown: also infocus shares of Maderna, after the Financial
Times reported, the US government is nearing an
agreement to fund the biotech firms bird vaccine trial. Will
during the chairs climb 3% In premarket trading. Yeah,
Adam Curry: baby. Yeah, we got some we got some medical stuff
going on. This is good. Yeah, we get some funding some funding.
Let's continue with Dr. Celine,
Unknown: what are your concerns? What are you thinking about?
Adam Curry: What what are your concerns? Not my concern? Should
we be concerned? What's your concern?
Unknown: What are your concerns? What are you thinking about in
terms of preventing a larger outbreak? Well, what we're
really concerned about, there's not nearly enough testing,
there's not enough testing of the there's not enough testing.
There's not enough testing of the milk. And so if you're not
testing, really kind of flying blind, we don't know what we're
dealing with. And there are a lot of questions that remain
unanswered. Most importantly, how is the virus mutating? Is it
adapting to humans and other mammals? And is it adapting in
the direction where it could spread from human to human? And
if it does, that's when you end up with an epidemic or pandemic.
So we really need to be keeping a finger on the pulse so to
speak, and we're not doing that right now. So
Adam Curry: what it sounds like to me is, besides serving their
pharma overlords, they are gearing up for a possible
nailing vote. I mean, that that's what we're going to see
States taking this measure, I'm sure of it. Well, you know,
first of all, we got to start masking. Stop masking, because,
you know, it could be could mutate. And I mean, the term is
supposed to be jumped from species to species, which was
never proven with COVID. They tried pangolin, bat, etc. dog,
cat, dog, cat. The cats are the cats or dogs. Oh, your cat's
gonna get it. Now, now they take it in back to the farmer
overlords.
Unknown: So we need to keep pointing out that this was
cattle to human but there has not yet been a case of human to
human tonight.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's coming. But
Adam Curry: is that something you're concerned about? Worry
about? Well, that's
Unknown: an important distinction. So yeah, so far,
all the cases have been cow or some other animals. And
historically speaking, we are not aware of any human to human
cases ever having occurred. But that is roughly how you get the
next epidemic or pandemic is if the virus mutates adapts to
humans where it can spread human to human. And if that's
John C Dvorak: what I'm sorry, h five n one's been around for
what 2030 4050 years it's been around forever read from that
why all of a sudden will it spread and let's take Create a
versions in a lab to make and spread. And if
Unknown: that were to happen, do we have the capacity to
manufacture vaccines to combat that? This
is a big concern because manufacturing pigs, bird flu,
Adam Curry: Oh, I love this. I love this. This is this is how
we bring in Maderna. This is okay be concerned and you
Unknown: factor vaccines to combat that.
This is a big concern because our flu manufacturing is based
on eggs, bird flu kills birds, birds lay eggs. So your whole
manufacturing logic is is really in jeopardy potentially, from
the very virus you're trying to combat. So we really do need to
develop alternatives to the egg based manufacturing.
Adam Curry: You know what he'll crap
John C Dvorak: what?
Adam Curry: I got more, I got more. What I remember all of a
sudden, when we just got funding for pod show from Kleiner
Perkins. They had, they had invested in something and it was
all about creating vaccines no longer doing it in eggs, and is
a big deal. And I remember interviewing Dora and Ray lane
and on a podcast, and I hope I can find that somewhere.
John C Dvorak: Oh, you got to find it.
Adam Curry: I wonder. I wonder if it was if they were already
looking at mRNA back in the day. I really am.
John C Dvorak: If you've been listening to a lot of the same,
these same sort of clips, and they've been working on em RNA
forever. And but they could never get past testing because
it kills everything. It does, and it doesn't work. And so they
found that the COVID was perfect, because then you could
force it into the into the general population people's
arms. You can force it into the arms as an emergency. Yeah. And
then see what happens. Because we're pretty sure that this
stuff is great. It works terrific. And we but we can't
seem to get past testing. So because it kills everything. But
I'm sure it works, though. Sorry. So they do what they're
doing. How
Unknown: are eggs used in the creation of vaccines with
Adam Curry: really, really have you never never had science in
school? Okay,
Unknown: what's the virus in the eggs, and then you kill the
virus. And then that's one of the constituents, that's really
the main ingredient in your vaccines, okay,
and so it's so just to go back, if you have an allergy to eggs,
it's not a factor because,
as it turns out, it's not a factor because you're really
just growing the virus in the eggs. It's not that the eggs are
part of the vaccine, it's just the substrate for the the, the
food really for the virus to be growing.
So I can see why scientists would be concerned. Now we're
not dealing with an outbreak of the bird flu in the human
population. But viruses evolve and we want to be caught flat
footed again, no, again, we're killing all of
these birds will remember bird flu is deadly to birds, birds
also lay eggs, which are one of your main tools really to
produce the virus that you put in the vaccine. Yeah. And so if
you having to kill birds that are laying the eggs, you're
really in a difficult situation, you know, these barriers are
laying the eggs that we're using for the vaccines. Those are a
very precious commodity. But if they are endangered by the very
virus we're hoping to, you're kind of in this very difficult
position.
Adam Curry: Now that what is the solution, John? I mean, is there
an alternative to making vaccines without eggs? Can you
think of anything? Because clearly, you're an idiot CBS
person, then just leading the witness? This is so weird, what
are their alternatives?
Unknown: And so there must be scientists working on
alternatives, though, are there alternatives out there?
There are alternatives remember, mRNA vaccines from COVID.
Remember, remembering flu vaccines, even combination flu
and COVID vaccines, there are other types of cells that are
not eggs. So you have mammalian cells, you have insect cells and
back that we can grow virus in. But these are just not as far
advanced as far developed as the egg based manufacturing. Right.
Adam Curry: Right. Right. But I'm so glad you brought that up.
Because we have all kinds of great bird flu vaccines
Unknown: and health check. Penn Medicine says it's created a
human bird flu vaccine on the same platform as its COVID-19
form the experimental and one of the Just Say
Adam Curry: operating system, that'd be funnier opera, the
same operating system is mRNA. For basically it
Unknown: was seen on the same platform as its COVID 19
vaccine. The experimental mRNA vaccine protected lab animals
from severe illness and death for at least a year. In fact,
all the vaccinated animals survived infections while all
the unvaccinated ones died. Early infects humans, but
there's been heightened concern about a current outbreak
circulating in birds and cattle in the US. Yeah,
Adam Curry: the heightened concerns more concern. There's
so much concern.
John C Dvorak: Instead of a platform, they should call it a
bus.
Adam Curry: A bus. Let's go to North Carolina and we
Unknown: were built to provide on soil pandemic response for
influenza vaccines,
CSL secure us with a site in Holly Springs that makes over 55
million doses of flu shots a year. Those go out across the US
and Europe.
And they'll get distributed from August and throughout the winter
seasons.
Now they're adding bird flu vaccines of 4.8 million doses as
part of an ongoing contract with the US government. What
we will do is we'll take the antigen that was manufactured
will convert that into finished doses and we'll make that
readily available to be distributed at the direction of
the US government. Have you
Adam Curry: ever heard of triangle pharmaceuticals?
John C Dvorak: No, but you better tell them you got it made
Adam Curry: you better tell Horowitz. So I think there are
people in the background going like hey, we missed out on that
first time that moderna and Pfizer stuff, man, we got to get
on the stick here. Who do you know, Bill, Bill? I got a buddy
over a triangle North Carolina. Good. We'll give them the
contract. 4.8 million vaccines at it beautiful. ABC for the
Unknown: third human case of bird flu here in the US has been
confirmed in Michigan all three were exposed to infected dairy
cows on different farms to in Michigan. One in Texas, the CDC
says the risk to the public remains low, but it is
stockpiling.
John C Dvorak: Anyway, what I said but we'll talk about it
anyway.
Adam Curry: Well, there's a reason for it. One in Texas,
Unknown: the CDC says the risk to the public remains low. But
it is stockpiling the current bird flu vaccine and a new mRNA
vaccine is now in the works. Yay.
Adam Curry: Yay. Yay. Get ready. Roll up your sleeves. Let's go
for two more clips for do America's favorite doctor. on
ABC. Good Morning America. Dr. Jenn now
Unknown: a doctor again talking about how the CDC has confirmed
the second case of human age five birds flew in Michigan,
should we be concerned?
That's the cost should we be concerned?
John C Dvorak: Should we be concerned it's funny, but get a
sample for a second. The Michigan case I think was the
last case there were two in Texas and one in Michigan but
they keep mixing up where the cases where three A's? Yes, they
do they do and how is Oh, it's so hard to know the difference
between two and three.
Adam Curry: It's confusing, and I'm concerned now
Unknown: with Dr. Jen talking about how the CDC has confirmed
the second case of human h5 bird flu and Michigan should we be
concerned?
That's the question. Well, listen, I think anyone who
remembers just
Adam Curry: listen, listen, listen. You know what, think
about it. Anyone who lived through COVID will remember you
should be concerned.
Unknown: That's the question. Well, listen, I think anyone who
remembers back just four years to 2020 really should be
answering. Of course, we should be paying attention to this.
There's a big difference between being vigilant and paying
attention and panicking unnecessarily right now, right?
We've learned that we have to pay attention to these reading
infectious diseases, viruses mutate for a living. This has
been occurring now for several years infecting poultry. Now
dairy cattle. Anytime we see a virus that does change in a
normal course of the viral lifespan, and it goes from one
species to another, we have got to pay attention. Now. This is
the third us case the second confirmed case in Michigan, the
more you look for something in medicine, what
John C Dvorak: he says to she says three and now she says
there's two in Michigan, I thought it was two in Texas and
one in Michigan. But
Adam Curry: you know what? It doesn't matter as long as you're
concerned. Pay
Unknown: attention. Now. This is the third us case confirmed case
in Michigan. The more you look for something in medicine and
public health, the more you will find it. This person does have
respiratory symptoms, but he's been treated and managed and
isolating. You had a cough at home, not hospitalized. But
again, I think we cannot put our heads in the sand. The CDC is
not doing that the FDA is not doing that. And the USDA is not
doing that. Nor is
Adam Curry: the world nor is the world or to help world horse
organization important
Unknown: to point out these were farm workers who had direct
contact as gross cows. But there is reason to be hopeful or for
comfort here and
listen, we've been in touch with very high level officials from
the CDC. spoken to the CDC director about this she was a
guest on GMA three, she said the following number one we have a
treatment we have an antiviral medication that's effective
against this strain of bird flu number two, it has not shown any
mutation yet. Number three we have a vaccine in the national
stuff.
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, no mutation but but wait a minute,
you're telling first You're telling me that it went from
chickens to cows, but there's no mutation yet? Shouldn't this be
cow flu? Actually think about it. I mean, that seems odd.
John C Dvorak: This story is not well, well structured and
Unknown: effective against this strain of bird flu. Number two,
it has not shown any mutation yet. Number three, we have a
vaccine in the national stockpile and the ability to
ramp that up very quickly if need be right now, the overall
risk to the general population remains low.
Adam Curry: We are good to but But Dr. Jen has added another
agenda, which was not really surprising, because we've
already had the mailing ballot. We have, you know,
pharmaceutical overlords ramping up government contracts, and
there's another one now let's talk
Unknown: to America's favorite doctor when making medical
headlines, authorities have detected the presence of bird
flu at a farm in Iowa, more than 4 million chickens should we be
concerned?
Okay, here's the latest from the USDA. And again, we've been in
close contact with
Adam Curry: there must be a memo that
John C Dvorak: says yes, something's gotta be up and then
saying should we be concerned it's got to be in that memo as a
talking point has to because everybody's saying the exact
same thing. Okay,
Unknown: here's the latest from the USDA. And again, we've been
in close contact with the CDC on this, they are testing more
that's why you're seeing it more there's no surprise here.
Adam Curry: The exactly the more you spin up here your bogus PCR
cycles and you're testing more the more you're gonna see you
could test for HIV and get it from from cows come on people we
know this is bunk,
Unknown: but the latest is infected poultry entering the
food chain in this country the risk is sought to
Adam Curry: be extremely low that entering the food chain
Unknown: according to the USDA. All poultry products are
inspected rigorously and they were before this outbreak for
signs of disease. Bird Flu avian influenza is not I repeat is not
transmissible by eating foods including poultry that have been
properly prepared properly cooked so you want to make sure
you're not cross contaminating you want to cook according to
regular appropriate temperatures and eggs because we've been
tracking this as well have to be thoroughly cooked. The yolks are
first overeasy no overeasy
John C Dvorak: please x.com 20 x.com
Adam Curry: too
John C Dvorak: many eggs that comes with me me says you know I
do all this work. You guys never plugged
Adam Curry: in. You can't do them over easy. rip those pages
out of your book. Too many eggs.com Rip the pages out of
that book. You could die if you if you have eggs
John C Dvorak: that are over not to mention sunnyside up
Unknown: until the yolks are first overeasy no overeasy. And
when you're talking about the
Adam Curry: way if you wait, wait for it gets better.
Unknown: No raw or unpasteurized milk,
Adam Curry: no raw milk. no milk, no raw milk.
Unknown: That should have been the case before abs. So bottom
line if people want to avoid this altogether. Did
John C Dvorak: you hit Do you hear that? Right? She said that
should have been the case before? Because they're not in
words. Hey, we don't like the idea of anyone having raw milk.
So that should always be the case. By the way, be it even if
there's no avian flu, it's drinking sewage.
Adam Curry: Wait, there's more.
Unknown: And when you're talking about the dairy supply, no raw
or unpasteurized milk. That should have been the case before
avian. So bottom line if people want to avoid this altogether,
what's the choice? Well, look, again, we have to emphasize what
the science and the facts say right now there is no evidence
that this is a virus that can be transmitted via eating properly
cooked food, or drinking properly pasteurized milk. But
obviously the options always need to be stated for people who
are concerned plant based better for the environment and probably
will save you some money as well. At least temporarily. It's
a good way to try it.
Adam Curry: Yes, but she come comes in with the vegan angle.
John C Dvorak: Holy mackerel that's clipping today.
Adam Curry: Thank you. I figured we could go to the clip
custodian clip.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there was clearings in the vegan angle at
the end. You don't want to get muddy and make sure when you can
you imagine having a fried egg with the heart is hell yolk.
Then what's the point?
Adam Curry: My mom used to she she had a problem with a runny
egg yolk she'd always we go to a diner I remember it so I was
like, Can you kill my eggs? I want them killed. Hard burned,
burned all the way down. No yoke
John C Dvorak: that we put ketchup on it make scrambled
eggs then it's fine doll but you
Adam Curry: can't have them too fluffy. Gotta have them hard.
overcooked and dry. And don't you dare put any raw milk in
there. Ah. Now here's the crazy thing by
John C Dvorak: the way, if there was some evidence that somebody
got bird flu from raw milk or our overeasy egg where is it
that there's no evidence? Course not.
Adam Curry: I have another. This is the testing industrial
complex also from ABC
Unknown: tonight scientists are ramping up vaccine testing to
prevent bird flu transmission between cows and people.
Adam Curry: stop barking your cows. Hi. I'm so saddened by
this as the
Unknown: CDC confirms a third rare human case in the US rare.
Adam Curry: This is not so rare people get bird flu all the time
when they're around birds,
Unknown: a cow likely infecting a Michigan dairy worker. Now the
first thing what was he doing show respiratory symptoms like
coughing was he kissing the cow that patient now on an antiviral
medication and recovering at home. The previous two cases
showed symptoms like pinkeye federal health authorities
investing millions to limit the spread among livestock.
Adam Curry: You can go to schools and find pinkeye Come on
people, the USDA
Unknown: announcing an additional 800 million in
emergency for testing $800
Adam Curry: million.
Unknown: For testing my potholes virus surveillance developing
bird flu vaccine for livestock and food safety studies. Federal
officials still requiring testing before cattle cross
state lines, the USDA confirming 68 outbreaks and dairy cow herds
across at least nine states since March
Adam Curry: outbreaks. Notice the terminology people the USDA
says
Unknown: ultimately we want to eliminate the virus and
developing a vaccine to prevent another emergence of h five and
one in cattle will be an important step toward that end.
Adam Curry: This is a pipe dream. As you pointed out, Bert
h five
John C Dvorak: h five and one has been around
Adam Curry: for decades. For decades. Now all of a sudden,
whoa, whoa, no gotta develop a vaccine because it's a bonanza.
And this free money people free money. But that
Unknown: step in humans is likely still far off.
Ultimately, if we reduce the virus amounts in livestock, it's
going to reduce the chance that this virus has for jumping into
humans. Well, there is no science to suggest that bird flu
is being transmitted from human to human scientists are still
testing vaccines in humans, those at highest risk
farmworkers with exposure to livestock
Adam Curry: what they want, I think because they want to put
mRNA into our cattle. That's just not going to happen. And
you once you put that mRNA into your cattle who knows who knows
what's going on grow another head? Well, this
John C Dvorak: is reminding I have a clip
Adam Curry: I played this one last one from Sky News from
Australia. They'll say
John C Dvorak: Oh say they have cows. They have cows dander.
Adam Curry: I'm reliably informed. They also have a
different strain of the bird flu Victorian
Unknown: child has confirmed the first human case of a rare and
dangerous bird flu in Australia. As Minnie Becker explains an egg
farm Victoria detected a different strain of the virus is
now in quarantine.
Adam Curry: Oh
Unknown: CSIRO has confirmed the strain of bird flu to be the
haich seven and seven which is different to the current global
outbreak. It's understood global
Adam Curry: outbreak,
John C Dvorak: but global
Adam Curry: global outbreak. And now we have h seven and seven
we're getting close to the h h semonin. Nine or H nine and one
means a lot of H's and NS will outbreak
Unknown: it's understood around 400,000 chickens have had to be
put down after bird flu was detected in an egg farm knee
Meredith in the west of Victoria specialist teams have been seen
at that property dressed in hazmat suits conducting more
testing there. There is of course strict quarantine
measures in place around that property and in other farms in
the area as there is a high possibility it may have already
spread but experts say the risk to the public remains low.
This is not the type of avian influenza, which is a risk to
humans is very, very, very small.
Very few cases globally. But therefore it's totally safe to
consume eggs and carry on eating poultry as long as it's properly
cooked. Department
of Health overreaching with agriculture Victoria but in a
completely separate case and a separate strain. A confirmation
of a human case of bird flu has come through it's understood a
child who was traveling in India managed to catch the infection
and they traveled back here to Melbourne in March. It's
understood they suffered a severe infection but have made a
full recovery it's not believed that that virus has spread to
any one else but authorities are on alert.
Adam Curry: How about this? They just want to get rid of chicken.
It's cheap. This readily available chickens. It's the one
I need this on on a button now. How long ago was
John C Dvorak: a Weymouth? He brought it from India and
infected the chickens in Australia? Yeah, why don't they?
How can we get any no reports from India about anything going
on like this? War
Adam Curry: the first time we played that was 2012 years ago,
the war, the war is
John C Dvorak: a longer war than they have ganas than war. Was
something is screwy going on because of this report that I
got from PBS. Okay,
Adam Curry: let me see. Where am I looking at here? COVID. Oh,
all right. I'm sorry. What? Wait, I
John C Dvorak: got to set this up. And it's only part of the
dislike went on for 10 minutes. I have not absolutely sure what
they're doing. They're trying to get people back on the mask.
Yeah, I still see people floating around the masks. I'm
going What is wrong with you? So they've got so they brought on a
bunch of people with handicapped people. Oh boy. But it was like,
you know, somebody's got some sort of skin conditions. There
was a cerebral palsy guy and they went after the other.
Adam Curry: You have cerebral palsy guy. Look at my cerebral
John C Dvorak: palsy. Cape.
Adam Curry: Is he a superhero cerebral palsy guy.
John C Dvorak: Well, one person after another. They brought on I
don't know where they dug them up or how they found it. But
each one of them are shut ins. Because as of 2024, they are
afraid to go outside because they see the possibility they if
they get COVID Even though COVID is gone, they're gonna die if
they're gonna die. And so the PBS we can lose our play there
and I only got part of it because it goes on and on and on
with every one of them pleading with everyone out there. Hey,
think of me. I can't get out of the house because you will wear
a mask. The pace
Unknown: of us COVID-19 fatalities has slowed
significantly. The nationwide death toll stands at more than 1
million people. With precautions like mandatory masking social
distancing and isolation. No longer in place. It can seem as
if worries about the virus are gone as well. But for many
people with disabilities, the threat is still very real. We
asked people in the disability community to tell us about their
concerns about this new normal. Naomi bent
Adam Curry: the disability community. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: you know, the disability community. Can
Adam Curry: I get in on that with my Tourette's? Can I get
it? Is there any? Is there any money?
John C Dvorak: I don't think they got money.
Unknown: We asked people in the disability community to tell us
about their concerns about this new normal
Naomi Ben Porath. Um, 26 years old. I live in Lowell,
Massachusetts, I have pots Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia
Syndrome. I would say that the changes in the COVID policies
have definitely made me a lot more nervous to be out and
about.
My name is Ngozi Austin. I have scleroderma, which is an
autoimmune condition. There's just so much erasure that
exists, right? Like we are not part of public spaces. We're not
part of mass movement. We can't be they're not safe.
My name is Jermaine grieves. My different disabilities are
cerebral palsy. That is a neurological condition that
affects the brain in the muscle. My second disability is Hydra
rhinitis. suppurativa. That is a chronic skin condition. I'm just
afraid of getting sick and not being able to like, get through
it.
Adam Curry: Oh, these poor people, they've been terrorized.
Exactly.
John C Dvorak: And by the way, that's the tip of the iceberg
for this report. I was going to clip more but it was so
pathetic, but that's exactly what happened. terrorized. They
are. They have this in some of these conditions that go they
talk about our minor, and it's like, they will not go outside
because people aren't masked up. And it's like, what? Oh, yeah,
that's the calendar
Adam Curry: a Terrorist. Terrorist.
John C Dvorak: It's terrorism. It's exactly what I was
thinking. This is Dave terrorized the public as best
they can another doing it again. Yeah.
Adam Curry: And lots of people fall I see people at HEB here
with masks, mainly Latinx I don't know why but It just seems
to be that they seem to be more susceptible to the terror. Yeah,
and I'm gonna have to So maybe
John C Dvorak: when I was going to be recognized by the camera,
well, there's that
Adam Curry: possibility to wrap it up with all these all this
vaccine talk. You know, because of course mRNA and it was the
platform, it's an operating system. Let's go to the NBC
Today show is a bus Yeah. And again, we're just baffled by
this. This trend. We're
Unknown: back with our ongoing Heart Health Series with a new
way of thinking about heart attacks and
doctors saying they're seeing an alarming number of seemingly
healthy patients are having heart attacks and those patients
are getting younger and younger. Me Suzanne Thompson
this morning and good morning, this story is going to blow you
away because research shows that more than 10% of heart attack
patients had no known risk factors such as obesity or
smoking. Now there's a group of doctors at Mount Sinai here in
New York City tracking patients to see if they can uncover the
new risk factors behind this trend. What could it be confused
Matisse Escobar runs to control his physical and mental health
by the 38 year old fine tuning his mind body with years of
triathlons. Until last October when the unthinkable happened.
The tears collapsed at the end of a race from a heart attack.
How close to death did you come?
I was that for for several minutes. So you were dead. I
mean, my heart stopped beating and they they kept me with CPR
for 12 minutes until the ambulance came.
The heroic CPR was caught on camera. He's smartwatch recorded
what happened to his heart?
So you've got one heartbeat
there. Yes. And then nothing. For
two days he was in a coma? Doctors mystified by how this
young man in great shape. Came semester five to eat a lot of
red meat. No,
Adam Curry: no, no, no, no, no, no. No.
John C Dvorak: Honestly. The first thing she brings up is a
vegan talking point. Yes sir.
Unknown: Great shape came so close to death. Did you eat a
lot of red meat?
No.
Did you drink?
Very very little social has the stress. I wasn't stressed out
person at all.
Adam Curry: Did you get the VAX?
John C Dvorak: Did you guess actually that's what she's going
to ask next because any journalist would just just to
get it in as a fact as a as a as a point is a checklist a
checkbox thing.
Adam Curry: She's gonna ask yes, she's gonna ask that not
Unknown: trying to unravel the mystery of young heart attacks
Miss Dr. Deepak Bhatt. By
Adam Curry: the way you notice it's always athletic, young
people who get this. You're on the basketball court. You're on
the football field. You're on the soccer field. You're on the
fencing team. You're it's always people who are athletic, in
great health. Who I'm just she didn't ask John. I'm sorry, but
I'm just going to guess what? Yeah,
Unknown: trying to unravel the mystery of young heart attacks.
Dr. Deepak Bock, Director of Mount Sinai Mr. Hart Hospital in
New York City, Mr. He's looking into patients presenting with no
known risk factors like diabetes, high blood pressure
and high cholesterol. Dr. Bhatt says 12% of heart attack
patients don't have those risk factors. We're seeing
younger people come in like we never used to see before. Why is
that?
Why is that? When
John C Dvorak: I saw that?
Adam Curry: I love the doctor bot to I am Doctor bot I am a I
cannot figure out. Why is this
Unknown: we're seeing younger people come in like we never
used to see before. Why is that? Well, that's a great question. I
think there are a lot of reasons for that one probably has to do
with the obesity epidemic. But it could also be other things. I
hate to say it but you know, there's more substance abuse
these days. Things like cocaine, for example. Oh, it's cocaine.
It's the Coke, even smoking marijuana. Another weed. It's
the weed potential
clue, long, small dream inflammation. And
I'm talking about inflammation in the arteries supplying blood
to the heart that might lead to the plaque in that artery to act
up, in fact, to rupture a blood clot to form. If that blocks the
blood flow in that artery. That's what causes a heart
attack or heart muscle damage.
The cause of inflammation in seemingly healthy people like
Mateus, who are not obese and don't smoke is not yet clear.
But as a precaution, the husband and father of a two year old
watches his diet more carefully. He's gone vegan. There it is
whole grains and less red meat is recommended by Dr. Bhatt,
along with 30 minutes of exercise daily and getting a
good night's rest. Not easy when you worry if it could happen
again. How do you manage that? That fear of it coming back?
So I think that's probably the biggest part of this entire
thing. What do you do with fear that you're going to start
feeling things in your body that don't exist? So I it's very
important that you work on that right from the I feel
Adam Curry: so bad. This is I mean, we're joking about it,
because that's what we do as as McCobb podcasters. But it's it's
a travesty. And there was Did you see the great debate jock,
the great debate, the great debate, the great debate, with
great debate, the great debate on PDB value tainment. The value
tainment Oh, I
John C Dvorak: missed the value team and great debate. Yes, the
Adam Curry: value tainment debate was between comedian.
John C Dvorak: That's what I want is Dave Smith.
Adam Curry: Who's Who's Who's on fire right now is on fire with
Chris Cuomo. Yes. And I actually pulled a one minute 13 second
clip from this. There was three hours this debate. And it's it's
interesting, because as far as much as we mock it, people are
riveted by this. They had an audience, the audience sitting
there or like, near like Cuomo, Cuomo, Cuomo. And I think this
clip kind of sums it all up. was an
Unknown: all research that supports the shot is a two is a
two part answer. That emergency youth officer authorization,
Adam Curry: emergency youth authorization Here we go. All
right, Chris, you're out of control. That
Unknown: emergency youth officer authorization, they need to go
back and review why it got it. And they're never going to do it
right now to a bit of what Pat was saying. Right now,
here's what you have.
Blaine. Versus silence. You guys are the blame side. I want
apologies. I want to reckoning now. I want to say that I don't
take it. But this is why I talk about telling you
hear me out, hear me out. I'm telling you this. My dad told me
something one time. He says listen, be very careful when
everybody says good things about you. Because one thing in
America is they'll turn you into here overnight, and they'll turn
you to zero overnight. Yes. Then he said the following. He said
but this The great thing about America what America loves more
than anything else is a redemption story. They want to
see you make a comeback. They want to see you go from here you
are fall, they kick your ass and you're like, if you know what
this is America, most of us are Christians come back we believe
in forgiveness. And then you can make some kind of a comeback.
That may take a few months in a couple years. But then they're
like, Okay, well, we all make mistakes.
Adam Curry: This is the I think this was the core of this debate
is the prodigal son. What people want what America wants, and I
don't understand why Chris Cuomo doesn't see it. They want Him to
say, I'm sorry. I screwed up. I was wrong. I was in the wrong
camp. I did a bad thing. Um, he I agree with with value
tainment. Man, the Chris could be the hero. Three hours am
Dave's comedian, comedian Dave Smith. You got to say comedian
Dave Smith. He just was dragging this guy. I mean, it was it was
like it was not a fair fight almost. Because Chris Cuomo
can't just say it. And that's really what America wants right
now. Somebody President Trump, somebody to say? I'm sorry, I
was wrong. anybody? Anybody? I think America would go okay all
right, good. So you were wrong now let's now let's move on.
Guys some people want death and hangings and get your teens but
I like that part. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your
courage today in the morning to you the man who put the seat in
the war on chicken say hello to my friend on the other end the
one and only Mr. John.
John C Dvorak: anymore you Mr. Creighton Memorial ships and see
boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all
the names and trolls
Adam Curry: you know, thank you. Thank you. Justice system of
America 2119 35 minutes after last Sunday's count when we had
1643 We are up by a massive 400 Plus trolls A lot. That's a lot.
That's phenomenal, is because they want to know what we have
to say, what did the boys have to say? What are the borrowers
have to say what a boy what a borrower's have to share
something here for the boys to say, you can be a troll. And of
course, this is really our studio audience, but we'd like
to call them trolls because once you're in the studio audience,
it's what I'm
John C Dvorak: just rude. I just put something in the browser
that didn't work.
Adam Curry: It's x hamster. So, trolls is a little bit of a
misnomer. But unlike the view, where you got to shut up until
the applause sign goes on here, you can just troll around it
trolling the zoo, whatever you want. To troll, troll troll,
it's all good. It's all fine. And people do it. And they take
advantage of it. But they also hand out information. They you
know, it keeps us in check. When we say something wrong, people
say you're wrong. It's all very good. It's very important. Go to
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You can go there 24 hours a day, because there's always something
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voids. Some of these people may be dead and they're still alive.
They
John C Dvorak: could be in your mind. You know, I think I've
always remembered from the IRC.
Adam Curry: I remember. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: there are people that get on and they did they
don't know how to hang up. And it's just on there forever.
They're just things are running and running.
Adam Curry: I I remember there was a if it wasn't he was logged
into a a Unix server, but I think it was an IRC channel. And
it was a guy who died and many stayed logged in for years after
that. Year dead. Yeah. Void zero, maybe you can do a do a
reboot. Resume? No, no, no, don't do it. No, I want to know,
if this if there's people have been logged in for years and
years. It's very possible. That's how many people just
John C Dvorak: kick everybody off all at once, no for five
minutes and then then get back on it on if they want. It's
called the net spotland. Now that's another thing I should
mention. I believe that on some of these systems, if you're
especially pure IRC news, what some of these systems will read
log you on Yes, automatically, automatically. So it doesn't so
what my theory what I'm just saying here is probably not
going to work. But
Adam Curry: then we have net splits and all kinds of things
happen so but anyway, void zero network
John C Dvorak: split net split, we
Adam Curry: got a net split. Well, there's no there's it's
show title. Net. That's really what I'm writing it down anyway.
You guys,
John C Dvorak: you got della, you got
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John C Dvorak: me I want to talk about something not completely
off topic, but it's one of these bonus things bonus I was
listening to Darryl Darren what's his name? I can't
remember knob guy. Yeah, and Mr. knob he made an interesting
observation which brings us back to what we were talking about
the idea of terrorizing the public. And he I thought this is
I thought about it and but the way he put it was quite good. He
says what is the deal all of a sudden because when I was a kid
this never happened. There's a storm goes over a football
stadium and a bat evacuate the place because nobody was didn't
want anyone to get killed. Really? Yes. I
Adam Curry: thought that just covered the infield.
John C Dvorak: No, no, they evacuate people did not get hit
by lightning. Well, please, despite the fact that I don't
know anyone has ever been hit by lightning at a football game but
okay, so they evacuate everybody to get him out of there. Oh,
there's lightning and lightning. Now the thing is lightning in
situation where you have a lot of lightning. Usually they put
up a lightning rod Yes, stadiums have them. I'm wondering whether
they do but the point is they still terrorize the people make
them leave. And I don't think there is our light as many
lightning rods as there used to be. And I think this is very
much like the lack of forest management. They just decimated
the places get burned to the ground so paradise gets wiped
out. This is all part of a larger scheme.
Adam Curry: So the idea is, there's lightning coming, you
evacuate everyone from the stadium to the big open parking
lot.
John C Dvorak: I don't know where they send them.
Adam Curry: What is that all about? That doesn't make much
sense. I
John C Dvorak: think they put him out. You know that most
stadiums have a lot of space underneath the stands. They have
bombshell concessions. Oh, go to the bathroom,
Adam Curry: go go, go buy some food. That's what it is. There
you go. One of the ways that quite a few people and I have a
misnomer to call them people because they are in fact Dutch
grandmasters artists who like to create art while we're talking
on the show live and then have it up on the no agenda Art
Generator. Thank you very much to Paul couture for having that
for us for 15 years now probably. I'm just guessing we
should find out the exact first date. And then we were able to
choose from a cornucopia of offerings. Right after we're
done with the show so we can get all up and out. Boom, boom,
boom, Bada bing, hit the pod ping and 90 seconds later you've
got it with funky fresh new art and the art from last. The last
show 1664 We titled that friend assuring came from correct a
record no stranger to the winning art spot. And this was
an inside joke but anybody who listened to the show knew right
away when you see this obvious federal agent showing his
credentials it says What's that in your mouth? Every buddy knows
what's going on with that joke. And it made us laugh let's be
honest. It just tickled us we did look at some other things I
John C Dvorak: think yeah, we try not to use it
Adam Curry: Yeah, right. We That's true. That's true. What
else was there?
John C Dvorak: Nothing really what nothing that was was kind
of was
Adam Curry: a lot of AI chickens. A lot of AI chicks
actually use the Scara mangas crazy chickens the great chicken
What is it you know with all the I use that for the for the pre
stream art this morning? I kind of liked that. There were some
poop balloons nothing really spectacular. The comic strip
John C Dvorak: it was one I liked that was going to use in
the newsletter before I did the dire warning which letter which
one? It was
Adam Curry: kind of like the you kind of like the jury
instructions by Rick Harris. One I
John C Dvorak: liked the war on chickens. I like oh no is the
great chicken, whatever it is by Airbus scaremongers with the
chickens all running for cover.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I use that this morning. I kind of liked
that one. Yeah, it's a good piece but the government agent
with What's that in your mouth? I mean, come on. Come on. That's
brilliant. Brilliant. And then there was some late comers with
the Trump Orange Man guilty but nothing really beat you're right
we tried desperately not to use it and we just could not stay
away from it. It was the best buy hands down the best so thank
you very much correct to record and to all of our another Dutch
Grandmaster or is it just Dutch? No, it's a Dutch master now
grandma, just a Dutch Master I guess. Right?
John C Dvorak: It's not good. The first art piece on this art
generally there was one before that
Adam Curry: wasn't
John C Dvorak: I didn't mean go back and move this. I think it
was 2016 When we first started using this
Adam Curry: Oh, really? I thought it was earlier than
that.
John C Dvorak: There was a there was a different art generator
all but remember, that was Randy and the and I'm not sure whether
Oh, here it is. Well, well, he shot first. By freedom Northwest
episode. Well, these are episodes. Okay, go ahead. Okay,
these are just pulled in. This is bullcrap. The first was
really episode 23 that this Art Generator came into play. And
then it jumped to Episode 120. Now this is just some legacy
legacy put up there. I think episode 201 Yeah, Episode 201 is
when it really began with the picture of the girl coming out
of the swimming pool. That's
Adam Curry: 2009 I
John C Dvorak: guess 2012?
Adam Curry: Really? That was? Okay. Two thirds. So 12 years.
All right. But the I stand corrected 12 years? No, you
John C Dvorak: sit Correct. Oh, no, you're standing. I
Adam Curry: know. I'm sitting right now.
John C Dvorak: Then you sit corrected.
Adam Curry: So we don't do commercials on the show. We
don't take creepy corporate money. There's no subscriptions.
There's no Patreon. There's no the premium content you have to
pay for. We give you the show. The give you the show and we ask
you to return value in any way you can. Now what's interesting
about The model is that really, in a, in a case where it's
really good, it's about it's 3%. It's probably a tad less, but we
have really well we created the model. And we've really honed
it. And, and value for value works for us, we're not going to
be we're never going to be Joe Rogan. That's never gonna
happen. But we get by, you know, the idea that you can ask
everybody just put it in $5 a month, if everybody does it,
then everything's good. We're never having to have to stop for
to ask for anything, that that's a pipe dream, that will never
happen. So I'd like to help people who are considering doing
any value for value podcasts that could give you give you a
little bit of a tip of how this works. One of the one of the
important ingredients of a value for value podcast, really, of
all podcasts, but of a value for value podcast, specifically, is
the newsletter. The newsletter is there to remind you that we
have a show coming up. The newsletter remind you many cases
of the valuable work we have done, and in some cases of the
valuable work that is to come. The next day, it even comes down
to I would say because you are in charge of the newsletter. I'd
say that you even have it down to a science as to what time you
send it out. Do you even do staggered for different
countries?
John C Dvorak: I have done that. But I don't normally do it
anymore because it hasn't showed and to be worthwhile. I do a B
testing occasionally when I think something might work. But
Adam Curry: generally speaking no. Is there a sweet spot of
time that you feel is the right the right time?
John C Dvorak: Well, a couple of things. MailChimp, for one has a
time optimization feature this time
Adam Curry: optimization feature a tough?
John C Dvorak: So you ask it what do you think the best time
it'll be? And so then and I consider it to be very
inconsistent. So I tend to do the newsletter. By the same day
I said when I finished it, I ship it in. And the difference
between shipping newsletter at 1111 3012 1215. A used to be
three o'clock on weekends. I haven't seen any no real
difference. Real important differences. But the day before
for sure. Yeah. Because the next day is the show.
Adam Curry: And and would you say that there's some signs to
the title of the newsletter? Is there are there certain we've I
think we've learned that certain things are not good, like don't
say anti Google stuff, because then it doesn't show up in Gmail
is true. Don't put any like anything. Even the word
Republican is a bad idea. Because even if you're slagging
off Republicans, it's a bad idea. Because I would
John C Dvorak: say yeah, there's a lot of stuff. In fact, we had
a great letter for somebody showing that and I'm gonna
actually write a column like subset column on this on his
note, based on his note, which is the and the column is going
to be called the fixes in regarding the upcoming election.
But that's coming
Adam Curry: on the Oasis soon to come on the on
John C Dvorak: the oasis. And so you ended up with, yes, there
are certain things you can't do. And even talking bad about
Google, I believe, because they look at this stuff. It's like
this, you must be writing bad things about the CIA, because
they see it goes right to the semana. Just go. Turn it down.
We had that a couple of weeks ago, where I said, I forgot what
I was writing about, but nobody opened and how did this happen?
Yeah. So there's some trick.
Adam Curry: So and then one of the most important parts of the
value for value model, which was confirmed by my final and best
wife, Tina, if you don't ask, she thinks that's funny. By the
way, if you don't ask final wave, I'm not embarrassed if you
get through that. And of course, if you don't ask, people will
not give. And she, her whole career spent raising money in
nonprofit organizations, most recently wrong McDonald House
Charities. And she said, you'd be amazed how many people said,
if you ask them, whoa, why didn't you donate to the
charity? Well, no one asked. You'd be amazed. So the
newsletter isn't important part of the value for value model by
saying, hey, please support us 3% of people who do and I bring
this up, because CSB comic strip blogger, who, as far as I know
has never donated to the show. But remember, it's time talent
and treasure and he does
John C Dvorak: he's got plenty of these entities is a prompt
jockey. He's a
Adam Curry: jockey. He contributes lots of art from
time to time, but not Adam does get picked not a monetary
supporter and so he posted the following because he did some
research for us John some research regarding divorce X sad
puppy low donations newsletter so far I see two main reasons
that listeners mention see attached screenshot that the
main reasons he says why donations are low is one
insulting listeners to supporting Israel only and not
covering what Israel is doing in Palestine. 36,000 Palestinians
killed as revenge for 1200 Israelis killed. And he has
written and he has recommendations. Oh, does he?
Yes. He says, cover more other side not just pro Israel. No,
yeah, that's not what the people want. People want us to do some
kind of Nick Fuentes, the Jews run everything. So you're not
gonna get that from us. We have played all sides. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: we play all sides. And in many shows, we
don't even discuss this issue.
Adam Curry: You know, gosh, because it's, it's just not that
big a deal. Unless you deconstruct and thank you. Yes,
unless you think the Jews control the world and they're
the problem. And the other one, this is interesting. Stop
insulting. Don't call people trolls. Don't bash shit posters
and meme lords. Well, let me say something. Trolls shit posters
and meme Lords don't donate 3% of people who value what we do
donate. So when John sends out the sad puppy, which by the way
is you know, it's never done for any other reason, then donations
are absolutely atrocious. It's a reminder to people. And i My
heart is full today. How about your heart?
John C Dvorak: My hearts healthy. Is it the army because
I didn't get the vaccine?
Adam Curry: Isn't your heart full? To see how
John C Dvorak: I was happy with the results of the newsletter it
became a brought in a lot, which means we're gonna have a
donation segment is a little long. And, and Jay handled it
well. And yeah, he's
Adam Curry: a very well, she did extra she had to crack the whip
today. She had to work very hard. And I
John C Dvorak: wonder so she got up earlier, not only
Adam Curry: did people step up, they stepped up big time. And
almost no one at all. Like no jingles no karma. I just want
you to know I appreciate what you do. This is how value for
value works. And I I am pleased that once again after almost 17
years we have stuck to our guns. We're not pandering to what
people want us to do. We just do our own thing consistently. Now.
We didn't pander when everyone was hanging up Ukraine flags.
When in pander when everybody was saying Shut up, get the
shot.
John C Dvorak: That's for sure. So I want to mention something
about this. His notion that we insult the audience we do. There
is a school of thought in radio, right? You listen to the most
popular guys on radio. That guy? Mark Levin is not in that in the
league I'm talking about I'm talking about the Jim Rome's and
the people who've developed an audience. We're using their own
codes and using their own way of putting people even Rush
Limbaugh, who called his audience ditto heads was
something of an insult. Yeah. And Rome has got a name for his
audience. And it's insulting. And lot it and a lot of audience
members. Producers are not like it. Yes, they do. Because it
shows that you're you're part of the group and you're not just
they they're not just a blob out there. And so and I don't know
what kind of insults he's talking about, we insult him all
the time. You mostly Yes. You're insulting comic strip blogger,
and you don't think he doesn't enjoy it? He
Adam Curry: does. That? I know he does. I've met him in person
once. He's been with me longer than the new.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he was whacking the daily source code.
As a fan of yours. Yes.
Adam Curry: I don't know if he's a fan, but he's been around.
John C Dvorak: Well, he's not not a fan. I mean, he's, well,
he's just one of those hate listeners maybe. Anyway, she's
an insult. We're
Adam Curry: going to celebrate with our executive and Associate
Executive Producers right now. These are the people who came in
$200 and above for associate title. And by the way, it's a
real title these these credits are real. This is not some phony
baloney thing and go to imdb.com and see hundreds probably over
1000 people now have registered their official show business
Credit $300 above is an executive producers just the
same way Hollywood works. That's why we call everybody a
producer. You give us one buck, you're a producer. You make some
art. You're a producer and an artist that we know and you get
credit for that too. We credit people for what the work they
do. We appreciate you. And people like to appreciate us
back and the crutch. YOLO parts are known on the spreadsheet
sends us $1,929 Today, which is an outrageous amount and he has
a note because it's of significance to him. ITM jets.
Today is two years since my father passed and since reading
the newsletter and hearing of the dire situation of the
givings. I decided since today is the anniversary of my dad's
passing an amazing father, friend and human. I'm donating
1929 for the year he was born. The two of you sound like
amazing fathers as well. So this is for the two of you as well.
Love is lit. I miss you, Dad and I love you. You are right. I
miss you every day. Just goat karma for all the producers out
there. I was known as Baron crack, but I'm unfamiliar where
my donation puts my new title, if any. Wow, what is what does
it go?
John C Dvorak: I checked it out. I looked at his numbers T is
actually technically in URL, but he doesn't care. But he will be
a Duke shortly. Okay, that's how much he's given us good. And
when he says he'll just wait till it gets there. And
Adam Curry: he closes I'm just happy to be among the best
producers in the world on the best podcast in the universe
from Andy crunchy YOLO Baron soon to be duped crack. You've
got
John C Dvorak: your right to an anonymous donation from San
Antonio. And this came in at 1052 63. So I assumed that they
added $1,000 donation and picked up this tab which is 52 bucks
also appreciated for fees. That's why checks are better in
that regard. But that's okay. John and Adam. Thanks for a
great show. This is 1052 63 being a listener for many years.
But first time donor, please do do Schmitz. D deuced. That was
the one of the guys that when I send a newsletter out like this
last one that this is the tree shaker. What you end up with San
Antonio coming in.
Adam Curry: Yeah. It's beautiful. This is this. If
you're starting a podcast doing value for value, you got to get
over yourself. This is how it works. Thank you very much
anonymous, San Antonio. Don Tommaso no stranger from
kettleby. Ontario. From Don Tomaso de Toronto responding to
the newsletter emergency beacon that is all no jingles no karma.
By the way. This is just over 1500 Canadian dollar dues. We
are doomed. Thank you, brother. Appreciate that.
John C Dvorak: Another anonymous from Irvine, California 1001 33.
I'd like to claim the title. Ceramic jar. Night of the loose
leaf. Dear John and Adam, thanks for all you
Adam Curry: do. And look at the end by the way that's that is
101 dot 33. Which is got a little math to it and magic
number. Yeah, that's good. J S is from Madison Heights
Virginia. $500. Thanks for all you do Adam and John. I'm a
millennial single mom, and was headed down the path of wokeness
until my best friend hit me in the mouth. Please do do Shem for
never donating dude. Oh, wait. I think she made
John C Dvorak: us Yeah. Does she mean? We know we
Adam Curry: know what you mean. Yeah. We know we know what you
mean. I'm so thankful for your show. Since listening. I've
mended my ways and I'm now homeschooling my daughter
teaching her to use a slingshot and just found a raw milk share
to be part of it. Cheers to you guys and to all lactating cattle
everywhere. J S. You are an awesome mom is
John C Dvorak: 500 Yeah, Sir Brian Lawson and Douglas Douglas
in New York. It's 350 93 and all he says is Sir Brian Lawson of
Douglaston beautiful
Adam Curry: Michael Conti and Mansfield Texas. 350 93 no notes
so give him a double up karma. You've got karma
John C Dvorak: game fates. First in Pensacola, Florida. 350 93
Switcheroo game faith first here from Pensacola, Florida. I want
to say that I'm tired of being married to a douchebag please de
douche my husband. Oh porta
Unknown: de deuced.
John C Dvorak: I put this towards his knighthood. We will
rectify By the issue as it's a disgrace to the no agenda
community for a lovely Dame to be married to such a cheapskate
love you both and God bless no jingles no karma. Oh
Adam Curry: beautiful. Thank you, sir Dr. Jeff in Arthur turn
California. Atherton Atherton. Atherton, I think Atherton
John C Dvorak: that number one expensive zip code in the world.
Well, that would enrich his zip code in the world that
Adam Curry: would explain 350 93 PODD father and JC the ITM 30.
Threes have been following me for the past month hotel rooms
cab fare, and just this morning, what a dozen eggs a loaf of
multigrain bread and a gallon of milk cost in the Bay Area. Sir
Dr. Jeff of the valleys of silica and man hat. Yes, he's
John C Dvorak: got that right. A dozen eggs, a loaf of multigrain
bread and a gallon of milk in the San Francisco Bay Area costs
$350.93. Thanks, Joe Biden. Right. I'm here. Mark Hardwick
and Ed was in Aledo, Texas Alito. 33333 ITM Keep up the
good fight. Mark Hardwick in Aledo. Texas, sir
Adam Curry: day focus. Oh, he doesn't know him. He's the Duke
of America's heartland and the Arabian pullins Peninsula. Good
to see him back on the list. Gladstone, Missouri. 333 dot 33.
Fellas, lovely work of late keep it up. One question for Adam.
How to podcast joined the live stream of thinking of the
disaffected podcast, Josh Slocum great podcast, by the way. It's
on my list, and others that are in the same questioning
deconstructing milieu. He's in the podcast index. So that's a
good start. And John, we all get a kick out of how you were
handling the live stream off that fire truck at Brunetti is
ranch. You guys are swell. No jingles no karma? Well, it does
require coordination. Sir Ryan bemrose coordinates all of that
you
John C Dvorak: have to you have to lobby you got you do have
Ryan Vanbrugh. Yes,
Adam Curry: you got a lobby bemrose and it does require he's
a grouch by the way.
John C Dvorak: So no, note that that's the
Adam Curry: kind of guy you want running the stream. Yes, he's in
the troll room. You can find him.
John C Dvorak: Hookers will work but it's it's
Adam Curry: been known to work. Yes.
John C Dvorak: Anonymous, Seattle, Washington. 33333. No,
no,
Adam Curry: no. All right, double up karma for anonymous
there. You've got karma. James Martin. The Texans are coming
out Aubrey Texas. 333 33. ITM saw the sad puppy bad signal and
had not donated in a while. Just wondering how old the sad puppy
would be now. And did you ever find happiness? Oh, well, that'd
John C Dvorak: be dead believe me. Poor dog. Ryan and Tony God
in Pembroke Massachusetts. 33333 I heard donations for low sad
puppy Isn't it sad puppy is in order. Use code bond Gino to get
33% off too many eggs.com Not that I know of. I can I get a
Biden whole load and something hot on my leg. Thanks for
everything. Now.
Adam Curry: Did we find that hot on my leg? I can't Yes. What was
it? It's
John C Dvorak: running down my Oh, so how's it running? I don't
know. running
Adam Curry: down my leg.
John C Dvorak: Just maybe legged the word leg would be Do you
know how
Adam Curry: many results leg gives you?
John C Dvorak: I don't know why would be more than one.
Adam Curry: Oh my god.
John C Dvorak: There's so much leg. I want to introduce
something by the way. Okay. But as an aside, and this is Mimi's
ID and I thought was a good one. And I thought that I could put
in the newsletter. She says there's so many people asking
for baby making karma. We should have a special karma and I put
one together. Oh, it's on the karma list. You tell me if you
like it, you can always modify it or whatever. But this is the
baby making karma. Jingle Oh,
Adam Curry: you have an actual jingle I'm sorry. Here we go.
Unknown: karma karma now under karma
Adam Curry: so that Oh, okay. I got you here.
Unknown: You've got
Adam Curry: I like it.
John C Dvorak: I like it. It's a slap on the ass. Yep. And the
baby crying.
Adam Curry: I like it. So
John C Dvorak: now from now on if you want anyone wants baby
making karma they can. They'll hear that.
Adam Curry: I still for the life of me can't find the song. It's
a great bit to the something running down my leg but I can't
find it. Well, I'll just I'll do a hairy legs. It's all I got.
Unknown: I'm gonna give you the whole wounded I got hairy legs
Adam Curry: that's all I'm sorry Someone please send me something
hard on my legs so I can title it properly I got hairy leg sir
juicy juicy sorry sir juicy White Marsh Maryland 333 33 Oh
hold on a second. Oh wait Fletcher Fletcher to the rescue.
All right Where's Fletcher? Fletcher man, you are the best.
Something hot on my legs. There we go. Ask and You Shall Receive
beautiful All right I'm gonna save that in a moment to make
sure we get that beautiful Fletch, you demand you to me you
demand back to cert juicy White Marsh Maryland 333 dot 33 saw
that sad dog in the newsletter worried with short newsletter
John might be going to kick that puppy. Oh no, though we'd never
do you'd never kick a puppy. Please use the donation to save
the puppies life. Jingles a dog yelping? I did get a bark for
you and don't Raph why you roughing Bark? Bark Bark. Pump
It Up? Why are you laughing? Shut up. There you go.
John C Dvorak: Sir, sir Sir Corby in Hamilton Ohio. 33332
you love you guys house buying karma please Thank gosh or
Corby.
Adam Curry: You've got karma I am so having a running down my
leg. I am so happy to have this now. This is This is fabulous.
Okay, let me just make sure it shows up in the search this
write it down run it? Yes. It shows up in the search. Okay.
butyrate again. Oh, he was not expecting that. Here we go. I
just felt something hot on my legs. Yeah. 15 forever.
Beautiful. Beautiful. Then, okay. This is Dragon Slayer st
from St. George. Where St. George where St. George? Isn't
it in Canada? doesn't specify. But perhaps it is okay. rather
long note but there is a title here. So, jingle requests Adam
get him a cube de Deus, Pisco, my birthday. Nothing like a dame
switcheroo to Tracy, my wonderful wife of 37 years and
we never had a fight that resulted in a police response.
At least. She is a self taught Dudette named Bernadette who
started her career with 10 years in public relations for a
steamboat cruise line. plying the Mississippi and Ohio rivers
I'm amazed and in awe of her accomplishments. Plus she's an
IT person who was trained to communicate with a non tech
users very rare. In June of last year, we were listening to the
show on the no agenda stream.com And she comments that she would
like to have her 60s birthday included in the birthday
segment, please add to the list so dumb. I initiated a plan to
surprise Tracy with a very own executive producer ship on her
60th birthday which is today June 2. Happy Birthday My love
and enjoy being executive producer of show 1665 But wait,
there's more. Yes, it's a trifecta. Today my year long
scheme comes to fruition and I humbly request my wife to be
granted the title of Dame Tracy of the Roman Rite are it II
thank you for sharing the past 37 years with many more to come.
I love you. Dragon Slayer in St. George please play biscuit on my
birthday. There's nothing like a dame and he says depending on
timing of this segment while you took it all anyway Tracy and I
are listening while at the third annual no agenda South Louisiana
crawfish boil meetup hosted by Dame Mary moon and Serge dewclaw
in Prairie Village Louisiana. Pinch the tails and set the head
they always give me a biscuit on my
Unknown: birthday. There is nothing like
Adam Curry: nice nice note brother.
John C Dvorak: Good no Maxwell Los Alamos New Mexico. I did get
my I got the challenge going by the way.
Adam Curry: So you got it. From White Sands cool. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: 315 85 Thanks for all you do. keep on keepin on.
Goat karma, please.
Adam Curry: You've got karma. onto real side real estate
education. Westville Ohio. 300. The puppies got me keep it up.
Thank you.
John C Dvorak: Anonymous in Wembley downs, Washington. Yeah,
Western Australia. That's what it is. Dear John, and Adam, I
will continue to listen and learn and appreciate pretty much
all the shows. Pretty much. Let me start over because I'm adding
your ad libbing something it's unnecessary. I know I'm thinking
of myself. Is that 250 Take him there is that really 250
American dollars because then if that's west deaths australian
dollar reduces about 350. Yeah. Wow there John and Adam, I
continue to listen and learn and appreciate greatly all that the
show has done to reassure me that I'm not crazy. Love and lit
and no Genos no karma from anonymous in Perth. All right,
thank
Adam Curry: you Western Western Australia. Dane Beth ah another
familiar name tucson arizona row of ducks. 20 escaped Jeremy I'm
sorry. Jeremy gray. There we go. Uh Waso Oklahoma. 250. longtime
listener first time donor, please do you do? You've been de
Deus.
John C Dvorak: Yes, they invest in Tucson. A tu, tu tu tu tu tu
Aurora ducks. Heil boys headed to Southern California and
hosting the 805 pop up meet up at the Galena HG rooftop Bistro
on Thursday, June 6 from four to 7pm. Join us for libation snacks
in conversation thank you very courage no jingles Well, karma
Dame Beth Baroness Baroness of Baja Arizona.
Adam Curry: Derek Shaq is in Lucerne. Lucerne, Michigan. Rove
ducks 222 dot 22 Thanks, guys. You're the best John You always
make me laugh Adam. I'm so happy you found Jesus. I think an ISO
leaderboard would be fun. Give me a listen to that horn
followed by the classic Shut up slave. Sama some I missed the
Shut up slave but we have we love the Shut up slave. Oh my
god. Slave Yeah, you go.
John C Dvorak: God Vinny Sinead, an ephah tu tu tu tu tu here's a
row of ducks. Can we get some general karma? Absolutely.
Adam Curry: You've got karma. And another row of ducks 222
from Nancy Nichols in Waco, Texas. Thank you Texas for
coming out. No notes that will give you a double up karma.
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John C Dvorak: Now I have second half of show clips. What they
do, what is
Adam Curry: this all about? Oh, you're you're you're kowtow into
Unknown: resources? No, Andrew.
Adam Curry: This is unexpected. Second half of show. All right.
I'm
John C Dvorak: excited. So this is a guy that went in front of
the Broward County DA you seen this? Yes, of course. I have.
Yes, of course. This is the Broward County meeting. One.
Good morning, commissioners.
Unknown: today. I'm gonna come here asking for your help. But
first, a little backstory. I think we all remember the
Challenger explosion that took place in 1986 that tragically
took the lives of all seven astronauts on board. It launched
not too far from where we're standing here today. Well, the
interesting thing is a couple decades later, this thing called
the internet came about and someone allegedly found almost
all of those astronauts alive and well, many using the same
exact names. As you can see here we have challenger astronaut
Judith Resnick and also the Judith Resnick, Yale Law
professor, Michael J. Smith, the pilot of the Challenger
astronaut, and also professor at University of Wisconsin now
retired Michael J. Smith, Commander, Dix SCOBY, who is now
president of cows and trees. Now, if you'll notice, they all
have the exact same faces 30, some odd years later, the same
exact name, and they're the same age. Now, we all have a
doppelganger out there, right? No big deal. But to have the
same face the same age and the same exact name is extremely
rare. So where I can only find one case in the last 120 years,
and we're supposed to believe that three people from one
spaceflight spaceflight have exact look alikes that have the
same age and same exact names. This ladies and gentlemen is
beyond statistically impossible. Miss Resnick was questioned at
Yale by a journalist, and she panicked and ran from the camera
why? Mr. Michael J. Smith was also question and he said, Yeah,
we look alike. But that's not me. You can see both of these
exchanges in a film called level with me and you can be the
judge. Sir, I'm
gonna, I'm gonna have to say this is a public comment. I know
what it is, sir. I'm very familiar with the public
comment. Okay. And part of the public comment is, is that
you're only allowed to address things that we have jurisdiction
over,
we have not erect request at the end of this that is in your
circuit, please. Wow,
Adam Curry: I am really high. This is, this is interesting.
This has been around for several years. This there's, I think the
film is referring to I've certainly seen clips of people
going up to these astronauts saying, Hey, isn't that you? And
you know, one of those running away and, and one of them stands
there and just says no, that's not me. It's like, it's
obviously that person. It is a dynamite is really good for a
second half of show. Because of research. I'm actually looking
at being a data to see if we ever discussed it. I don't
believe so. I'm gonna I'll find something. If we go to clip.
Yeah, if we did, but we did. If we did, I'll find Oh, I
John C Dvorak: don't think so. Sure. Let's go to second.
Unknown: I do. Can we hold the time, please? Just have
a direct class that. Listen to me. Okay. Very carefully. Mr.
Richardson, would you give an opinion in regards to this,
please? Yes,
public comment is reserved for issues or topics that are under
the jurisdiction or control the county commission or that are
relevant to the business of the county commission. So if your
request at the end is going to explain why that falls into any
of this, make that request now before you continue?
Absolutely. So as I was saying, I'll just end it with what I was
ending with. But the ask is that Miss Pritchett, who knows very
well about questioning science, whether it be COVID or fluoride?
I'm just asking you all to question the science here.
You're Goodson and Pritchett, your district covers the Kennedy
Space Center, this launched from the Kennedy Space Center, you
have the ability to help me in sounding the alarm and asking
the federal government for help. If this is contained in your
area, I should be able to at least address something that
happened here. Don't you agree?
That's not within the jurisdiction or authority of the
County Commission?
Thank you very much.
Well, you let me finish for at least no sir, you're finished.
Thank you for taking away my freedom of speech.
I did not take away your freedom of speech today. I don't want to
hear it from you just because just because the
topic officers please remove this man from the room. It is
violating the First Amendment. I didn't violate the First
Amendment violated the
rules a limited public forum and the meeting is for the purpose
of the business of the county commission. It's not for this
purpose.
Now if you want to go if you want to go to take him out to
Officer take him out also.
Everyone just calm down. They can.
No, we're leaving willingly. You don't have to remove us. You
just made a decision about NASA.
Adam Curry: Yes, I had to adjust your your just your clip there.
That's a good one. I think you're right. I don't think
we've ever discussed it. I certainly have seen those clips.
And it is hilarious. You definitely should see that film.
Yeah, what I did find, thanks to some handy dandy producers who
remember everything. The term pre bunk, which Oh good, which
we were both wild about. When Queen Ursula decides that she's
going to pre bunk the entire European Union. Turns out, not
only did we discuss it on Episode 1426, not that long ago,
just a couple of years back. We even titled The episode 1406 as
pre bunk. Here's a clip. You
Unknown: know what we'll still have to see Alyssa. The US is
clearly trying to pre bunk Russian claim, waiting for
Russia to act or safety and things. Now, Russia has been
mocking. They say the US claims are false that the West is
engaging in hysteria. One Russian officials said dryly
today that wars in Europe rarely start on Wednesdays. Yeah. I
Adam Curry: pre bunk. Wow. So this is this is a great time to
be a podcaster. I cannot believe how quickly mainstream
broadcasting and five M is devolving into a solid shit
show. Adam pre Jesus there you go. Very sad something that
happened last night. I don't know if you picked up on this.
Alex Jones, who of course not only do I know him Do I like
him? You've been on his show. I've been on a show several
times. We have kind of hung out together at Joe's Comedy Club
when he was there with his with his wife. He's just a lovely
guy. You know, of course he ran into some problems freedom of
speech be damned, and he was did an emergency broadcast last
night. He is convinced that the feds are coming to show to
change the locks take all of his broadcast equipment and shut him
down once and for all.
John C Dvorak: Once and for all. And here's
Adam Curry: a clip of of this sad moment.
Unknown: It's all good. It's all up to us now to continue on the
fight. And I just hope people will take us we should ama Frank
Sinatra did it my way, but I did it God's way i I've literally
fought these people from day one knowing I was right. And it
wasn't me it was all you. But this is probably our last
broadcast. And to have these demons efforts, they're so
pathetic. But it's okay. So let's just play the whole Frank
Sinatra my way. We hope we're back tomorrow. We don't know
you're bad. But we're we're under a total attack. It's okay.
I love you so much. And I appreciate it. All the crew are
all of us are just finishing up right now. Live
Adam Curry: a life that's quite dramatic.
John C Dvorak: I've traveled Yeah, well, he's good at being
dramatic. Well,
Adam Curry: I hope he isn't shut down. I know he was sleeping at
the studio. He was not going to leave. And hopefully sort of
Lucifer can fill us in and let us know what what the latest is
that would be that will be a real loss.
John C Dvorak: Yes, that gonna happen. I think that that
brazen.
Adam Curry: Oh, wow. But again, the justice system in America.
Now to prove to prove that we are not just pro Israel AeroBed
only making excuses for Israel via just protecting them for our
Zionist overlords. The bad signal went out big, big bat
signal. I
Unknown: am the founder of the Swifties for Palestine Instagram
accounts, I decided to create this account because I realized
that there are similar over 300 million Swifties worldwide. And
this global movement, if mobilized in the right way, can
be an unbelievably powerful force to be reckoned with. And
just this week in Lisbon, we had someone break the seal, they
already did a Palestine flag drop and a another girl had a
poster with Taylor speak now on a watermelon. Gosh, the littlest
action that she could do a tweet a fundraiser anything is
literally move mountains and save 1000s of lives with these
for Palestine.
John C Dvorak: You know, to be honest about I couldn't
understand it where she said Oh,
Adam Curry: yes. Swifties for Palestine and people are holding
up big banners now. Taylor Swift take a stand. It's going to be
hard for her because you know, who runs the music business?
John C Dvorak: Well, in this case, it's
Adam Curry: going to be really hard. What do you mean in this
case?
John C Dvorak: In this case, I think the Jews run the music
business.
Adam Curry: I think you're actually right about that.
John C Dvorak: I mean, come on.
Adam Curry: I think you're right about that.
John C Dvorak: Which is fine. Yeah, anybody can run the music
business. The gays could run the music business. You know, in the
hip hop arena. This is not a white guy. Run and thanks. What?
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. Hello. Who? Clive Davis? He's the he's
the that he was dead. No, but he is gay. If that helps.
John C Dvorak: Okay, well engagement.
Adam Curry: And what do the gays run?
John C Dvorak: Parades, fabulous parades, fabulous
Adam Curry: parades. Let's just stick with with Israel and
Palestine for a minute or Hamas for a moment as seems like your
prognostication may be coming true
Unknown: for the first time President Biden thing facing
intense political pressure here at home is revealing details of
Israel's proposal to Hamas to end the war that exploded on
October 7.
This is truly a decisive moment. Here's those made their
proposal. Hamas says he wants a ceasefire. This deal is an
opportunity to prove whether they really meet it. Hamas needs
to take the deal.
The plan is in three phases, this path is available.
Once the deal is struck
a six week full pause of fighting in the region, a
withdrawal of Israeli troops from populated areas and the
return of some of the hostages, including women, the elderly,
and people who are wounded
hundreds of 1000s of temporary shelters, including housing
units could be delivered by the international community. All
that and more would begin immediately.
The hope is a military ceasefire now would allow negotiators to
work out the release of all hostages, including male
soldiers and Israel's full withdrawal from Gaza and allow
for humanitarian aid. We're talking 600 trucks to make their
way into Gaza every day for six weeks.
As long as the mosque lives up to its commitments. A temporary
ceasefire would become in the words of the pro Israeli
proposal. The cessation of hostilities permanently and of
quote, Israeli
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu releasing a statement
late this afternoon saying his government is united in the
desire to return to our abilities as soon as possible to
achieve this goal. That was his moment and just moments ago for
President Obama weighing in releasing a statement saying in
a during ceasefire is something we all should support for the
sake of Israelis, Palestinians and the world at large. All
right, go ahead
John C Dvorak: and the convention he
Adam Curry: should have mentioned and the convention yes
John C Dvorak: when he when Biden said unquote, who is he
quoting it was his idea wasn't it? It was recording himself and
probably
Adam Curry: well, no the other he was quoting the other Biden
so it's fair good. That's fair games fair game. Yeah. I have
some pretty good AI stuff I'd like to share though. I
John C Dvorak: got a Gaza clip. No, I'm sorry. Very similar to
yours. But I wanted to play get it out of here. Okay. And this
is about the this is the Gaza deal. Biden update. This was on
PBS yesterday,
Unknown: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has thrown up
a hurdle to President Biden's proposed path to ending the war
in Gaza. He said there can be no permanent ceasefire until Hamas
has military and governing capabilities are destroyed. No.
In a statement, Netanyahu said the notion that Israel will
agree to a permanent ceasefire before these conditions are
fulfilled is a non starter. On Friday, Mr. Biden said Israel's
bombardment of Gaza has left Hamas no longer capable of
another large scale attack on Israel like October 7, and that
it is time for this war to end. The families of Israelis held
hostage in Gaza called on both Israel and Hamas to take the
deal. Hamas said it views the President's proposal positively,
as do many war weary Gaza residents had that
this proposal came late but better late than never. We hope
from God, the American ministration and the European
community in general, to continue to put pressure on
Israel for a ceasefire.
Netanyahu also accepted an invitation from the bipartisan
congressional leadership to address a joint meeting of the
House and Senate that
John C Dvorak: there was no deal.
Adam Curry: Yeah, he's hell bent on going all the way seems. Yep.
Ai, ai, ai ai? It seems that AOC? What's her full name again?
John C Dvorak: Alexandria, Ocasio Cortez,
Adam Curry: it seems that she really, really, really, really
wants to have a Taylor Swift AI moment of her own. And I think
it's coming
Unknown: over 90% of all the images and video that's being
developed by AI right now is sexually exploitative and non
consensual and targeting women. This is sexual violence. Over
the last couple of months, I've worked behind the scenes with
phenomenal colleagues in the House and the Senate, from both
Republican and Democratic parties to start to put an end
to this, and that is known as the Defiance Act. The defiance
Act is a bipartisan piece of legislation that we currently
have introduced in the House and Senate that would update the
Violence Against Women Act in order to create what is known as
a civil course of action for victims and survivors of non
consensual AI. So what does that mean? What that means is that if
you are a victim or survivor of AI, deep fake pornography, you
will start to have federal protections where you can begin
to pursue accountability in court for perpetrators of and
people who generate perpetrate and spread this kind of imagery
against you.
Adam Curry: Wow,
John C Dvorak: does she have a clue on how the internet works?
Adam Curry: Clearly not.
John C Dvorak: Anybody out there go to set your browser for take
the safe mode or put it
Adam Curry: on your phasers on stun. If take it off
John C Dvorak: completely you can do that it's a drop down
menu say no no care and unfiltered. I don't care. And
then type in Taylor Swift new AOC AOC or monjas Saint Taylor
Swift the better stuff is Taylor Swift has been going on longer.
But our AOC anybody pretty much
Adam Curry: the vorak
John C Dvorak: Gross. And so I think Emma Watson's another
target that I don't know what what attraction who Why was so
jacked up about her, but she cute, and it's just unbelievable
the stuff you see, it's just like wow, this is ridiculous.
What are your mouth about it? What's your mouth? They can't do
anything about it.
Adam Curry: No, but this is why I think she wants some of her
own. She wants that.
John C Dvorak: You know, this is a funny reverse psychology thing
you're coming up with here. How come there's not more nude
pictures? Maybe there's something out there that's real
Adam Curry: that's my theory about
John C Dvorak: that. And so you have the idea that oh, they're
gonna somebody's gonna release this I'm going to do legislation
quick and then make it look like whatever it is. It's aI again a
new AI it's not me. Ah
Adam Curry: ha remember she was an actress
John C Dvorak: and a bar bartender? Yeah, who knows what
she did? Hey
Adam Curry: babe, you want to be in my movie?
John C Dvorak: Hell yes. But I think that might be more like it
and
Adam Curry: we'll we'll see what surfaces Helen toner Do you Do
you remember the name Helen toner? I do not Helen toner is
the former board member of open AI the Australian woman who
speaks with the American accent who I believe she was one of
those what's the not existential survivalists? No but the what's
the sex called?
John C Dvorak: It I can't read it this is not exci li now now
next live that's one of them.
Adam Curry: No it's the better living through math Effective
Altruism Thank you sir. Okay, so this is the SAM bank been freed
was in this cult? A lot of these you know we've we played clips
of Bo. orgies they were doing orgies in these cults in San
John C Dvorak: Francisco. That's altruism had nothing else and uh
huh. So she got
Adam Curry: kicked off the board after the true power of the
board. Satya Nadella from Microsoft said oh no, you don't
put him back on and so now she's doing some kind of podcast tour
going around everywhere telling everybody what a liar he is. He
lies he lies she clearly has never been on a board before.
John C Dvorak: Now this was you're referring to you said Sam
bank Minh fried what No, no,
Adam Curry: this is about Sam Altman. I'm sorry Waldman, but I
this Effective Altruism included sang Sam Backman freed these
these are the weirdos that are in the sex cult. And she was one
of them. She was an effective altruist case continue and sorry
Anna cute. She got big bedroom eyes. She kind of cute. She she
might she might have been one of the leaders favorites. I'm just
thinking because she is a woman. She's a woman scorned right now.
She appears on I was unaware the TED AI show. Did you even know
that existed? No. Well, now you do. Here she is Helen toner. And
this is Sam Altman lies. For years,
Unknown: Sam had made it really difficult for the board to
actually do that job by you know, withholding information,
misrepresenting things that were happening at the company, in
some cases outright lying to the board. disappoint, everyone
always says like what give me give me some examples. And I
can't share all the examples. But to give a sense of sort of
the kind of thing that I'm talking about is things like you
know, when Chuck GPT came out in November 2022, the board was not
informed in advance about that we learned about chatty Beatty
on Twitter. Sam didn't inform the board that he owned the open
AI startup fund, even though he constantly was claiming to be an
independent board member with no financial interest in the
company. On multiple occasions, he gave us inaccurate
information about the small number of formal safety
processes that the company did have in place, meaning that it
was basically impossible for the board to know Oh how well those
safety processes were working or what might need to change. And
then you know, a last example that I can share, because it's
been very widely reported, relates to this paper that I
wrote, which has been, you know, I think way overplayed in the
press. The problem was that after the paper came out, Sam
started lying to other board members in order to try and push
me off the board. So it was another example that just like
really damaged our ability to trust Him and actually only
happened in late October last year, when we were already
talking pretty seriously about whether we needed to fire him.
And so you know, there's more individual examples. And for any
individual case, Sam could always come up with some kind of
like, innocuous sounding explanation of why it wasn't a
big deal, or it misinterpreted or whatever. But the you know,
the end effect was that after years of this kind of saying,
all four of us who fired him came to the conclusion that we
just couldn't believe things that Sam was telling us. And
that's a completely unworkable place to be in as a board,
especially a board that is supposed to be providing
independent oversight over the company, not just like, you
know, helping the CEO to to raise more money.
Adam Curry: another nail in the coffin of the AI extravaganza.
John C Dvorak: She speaks in a pattern that is awkward bursts
talks forever. Yeah, forever. And I don't know what milieu
that is. But his Effective Altruism million must be wide.
Unless I hear somebody else from that same group talk I can can't
make that generalization.
Adam Curry: But but she
John C Dvorak: doesn't sound credible. The way she speaks is
not credible.
Adam Curry: Well, we'll see if it's taken as credible. Sam
Altman is a liar. I believe it. I believe everything she's
saying. Yeah, I don't please probably also lying about AI.
John C Dvorak: That it's actually a bunch of Indians.
Adam Curry: This we know to be true. Now. Let's see what the
latest breaking news. I mean, if if everybody's excited, it's
about what Apple will do with AI. Can you feel the excitement?
John is in the air? Everybody's like, Oh, we've got the new
Apple developer conference coming up. What AI tools will
they have? Are you excited?
John C Dvorak: And they just announced a bunch of stuff. Yes,
Adam Curry: yes. I have the Bloomberg podcast. And of
course, Bloomberg, you know, they need to report accurately
because it's about financial information. And and I think
they are accurate with their reporting here.
John C Dvorak: There's a lot of dogs Jide,
Adam Curry: I'm sure citing exciting things coming up for
artificial intelligence in your Apple device.
Unknown: Apple, the developers conference next month, right?
Big, big, big,
Adam Curry: big, big, big Johnny Big
Unknown: Apple Developers Conference next month, right?
Big, big big. But they're betting on its customer base to
kind of give it that edge in the AI space. So what they're doing
is they're taking this different approach to AI, they want to
focus on the tools that ordinary consumers can use kind of like
what Tom what you were saying last week, like what does this
mean for me? I want Mark Gurmann to tell me what's the so what
and I'm not there yet.
Yeah. So they're they're doing
exactly because of what you know, things you're saying. And
not just you, but a lot of people in this new strategy
project gray matter. So they have a set of AI tools that the
company is going to integrate into apps like Safari photos and
notes, but there's other features, right? They have Siri
personal assistant, that's gonna get an upgrade series getting an
upgrade. They have generative AI for emojis with software that
can create custom emojis on the fly based on what you're
texting. So if you're texting someone, like, Hey, let's go out
for dinner for pasta on Friday. A little pasta mode, you will
like
make my life is gonna make your life so much better than where
we are these days.
But it's just about making things easier for their
customers. I
John C Dvorak: don't think that this conference again, the
developer conference, I guess it's June 7. Yeah, I think
there's a lot built up in the stock. I think investors want to
see something transformative as it relates to AI to get that
bump in the stock. I'm not sure they're gonna get it.
Adam Curry: I don't know. I don't think so. Either. emojis,
AI will track what you're writing. And if you say let's go
get some pasta, it'll show a pasta emoji. Whoa.
John C Dvorak: That's pathetic. Yep. And the problem of course
with that is that emoji won't work on any other system.
Nowadays, emoji emojis are standardized yeah, there's a
pasta emoji we I know but it did it was just pulling a pasta
emoji you can do that yourself. You don't need an AI Yes you do.
You
Adam Curry: need an AI sticker.
John C Dvorak: So if it's like just drop it in, already
established emojis left and right you know there's the dog
shit. There's no smiling is money. Oop, all that stuff. No.
Looking for?
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited to see this I'm
gonna be glad my browsers
John C Dvorak: this this all this great stuff this is I
include a touchscreen laptop.
Adam Curry: Oh, I don't think. I don't think so. And therefore
how about a foldable
John C Dvorak: phone? There you go. I think a fool you because
Samsung has been making this phone for years now. The
foldable phone you're going to have one of those.
Adam Curry: I've seen a couple of those in the wild one on
their concert and one on the plane. They're pretty spiffy
apple. No, no, not Apple. No, they're spiffy.
John C Dvorak: No, they're JC has one. They're great because
you have the
Adam Curry: one that folds up into a like a little like a
coaster size phone.
John C Dvorak: It's about a coaster size. When it's folded.
It's the newest foldable phone little square. It ends up is a
little square. And it's got a screen on the square. So yeah,
you can see stuff. Yeah, yeah, it's important for your dynamite
phone, dynamite
Adam Curry: phones.
John C Dvorak: It is a big phone user. As you know, you're not a
phone user at all. This is absolutely true. My phone that
my cell phone is in the drawer as we speak
Adam Curry: speaking of such I want to send out some
anniversary and jobs karma for Tim from the no agenda phone.
Jobs,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs. Jobs
Adam Curry: is like his 10th 10th anniversary and he
loses his job in believe that. What Yeah, yeah, he'll pick
something up. He's a smart guy. One last AI clip here. Yeah,
several people sent me this and I don't know what's wrong with
you people. People like look at this. These guys look serious.
They have a lot of plans. Ah, enter brain bridge
Unknown: introducing brain bridge the world's first
revolutionary concept for a head transplant machine, which uses
state of the art robotics and artificial intelligence to
conduct complete head and face transplantation procedures
ensuring smooth outcomes and faster recoveries. Because head
transplants require high speed precision and efficiency brain
bridge utilizes advanced high speed high precision robotic
systems to speed up the process, eliminate human error, prevent
brain cell degradation and ensure seamless compatibility.
The head transplant procedure involves removing a person's
entire head containing the current diseased body than
attaching it to the body of a healthy young brain dead donor.
Pet transplants could provide individuals with severe medical
conditions such as terminal cancer, paralysis, spinal cord
injuries, or neuro degenerative diseases, the opportunity to
have a fully functional body while preserving their
consciousness memories and cognitive abilities. And her
head is gone.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, okay. Very funny. Lumbee Thank you very
much. Have
Adam Curry: you ever seen it? Have you seen that it's a slick
video the video is great. You have to see it.
John C Dvorak: Send me a link I have a few short clips are here
this and that. Okay, we gotta we gotta move on. But then, except
for that maybe we should catch up with the Ukraine a little
bit. Yes, I think because one thing we haven't discussed is
the fact that Biden has gone along with Schultz an idiot in
Germany. Yeah, yeah, you know, we should McCrone started it. We
should like barrel bomb in Russia. Yeah. And then the
German guides German Chancellor. Yeah, that's a good idea. And
then Biden says well, if those guys are doing it, I guess we
should have give it to you. Okay. And so we end up with a
you know, this is the way World War One started for anybody who
wants to look at a little history. Oh,
Adam Curry: they're even started on Deutsche ravel. I think they
even talk about the war in Europe. That's what they're
saying. Now it's the war in Europe. Oh, that's what World
War Three will look like?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, World War One started this way. It was
incremental. It wasn't all hell broke loose. It was one little
thing it led to another led to another led to another this is
what we're witnessing. And these these guys running these
countries including McCrone and Scholes struggle, merch and spy
and these guys should not be in office. They were trying to kill
us all. The witch clipper let's go with let's go with Ukraine to
target Russia
Unknown: as Ukraine receives more military aid from the US
and allies. A key question remains can Ukraine use the
weapons to strike targets inside Russia? Lincoln says that going
forward, the US will continue to adapt and adjust as necessary.
He says the US is always making decisions about what's necessary
to make sure that Ukraine can effectively defend itself.
Lincoln's comments come as France and Germany said Tuesday
Ukraine should be allowed to use their weapons against targets
inside Russia. French President Emmanuel Macron said Ukraine has
permission to use French long range missiles to target bases
inside Russia. Macaron stress that Ukraine should be able to
strike at bases from which Russian missiles are fired. But
he added that Ukraine should not be allowed to hit other targets
in Russia, including civilian or other military targets. Yep,
yeah, this
Adam Curry: is right. This is not good.
John C Dvorak: This is not good. It's really bad. And you know
that the Ukrainians don't care about role well, just they'll
shoot anything. So let's go right downtown Moscow. Yeah. So
this is yesterday's story. And this is a Russians know what's
going on. So they did this. A barrage
Unknown: of 100 Russian missiles and drones targeted the power
grid across Ukraine today. At least 19 people were injured
eight of them children. The attack came as Ukrainian
president Volodymyr Zelensky is attending a defense summit in
Singapore. He's trying to convince more Asian and Western
countries to supply weapons to his country and cut ties with
Moscow. The
Adam Curry: word I'm looking for is attack ohms. But I have not
heard it yet. I don't know why that's been pulled from the
narrative because those things will actually start world war
three. If they if they give the attack Ahimsa that actors
Alinsky that will be very bad. And Biden, as we know, from the
bill that was passed, signed into law has the discretion at
the President's discretion. He can give them attack comes.
Here's the Deutsche Vela report to the war here in Europe now in
Germany. There you go. You hear it to the war here in Europe.
Now.
John C Dvorak: It's the World War here in Europe to the white
war. They do they love it. These guys are suicidal to
Unknown: the war here in Europe now in Germany has authorized
Ukraine to use weapons supplied by Berlin to strike limited
military targets inside Russia. It marks a policy shift and
follows a similar us decision to allow Ukraine to use American
weapons on target Russian soil. The looser restrictions only
apply to the eastern Harkey region, where Ukraine is
struggling to hold off Russia's greatest advances. Germany
has become the latest NATO country to allow Kyiv to use
weapons supplied by Berlin for limited strikes inside Russia.
In recent weeks, Russia has prepared coordinated and carried
out attacks from positions in the heart of areas, in
particular from the directly adjacent Russian border region
combines them together. We're convinced that Ukraine has the
right under international law to defend itself against these
attacks. Via
Germany's decision follows a similar one from the US.
Americans can now be used to come to Russian attacks near the
Hartke Friesian.
Adam Curry: What's with this Ukraine?
John C Dvorak: Ukraine.
Adam Curry: You are calling it you will crane and how's the
Ukraine? Not my crane Ukraine?
John C Dvorak: The BB sloths that report from that's dodge
Avella. Interesting.
Adam Curry: Here's the BBC it was shows
John C Dvorak: that I don't believe that the order the
timeframe? The chronology is
Adam Curry: correct. Of course not. But But Germany's getting
in the fight. Now. That's the idea of the war in Europe.
John C Dvorak: But what's your theory or somebody we discussed
the possibility to blame it on terrible thing is set up by us
to get your ball you know, rub alized Yes.
Adam Curry: Hello. Hello. And with Germany at the center
again. Again, again, Ukraine again. Here's the BBC,
Unknown: the reaction has been quite angry from senior Russian
officials, Dmitry Medvedev, who was former Russian president and
now deputy chairman of the Russian Security Council. He
wrote on social media that Russia views any long range
weapons passed to Ukraine by the West as weapons controlled by by
NATO personnel and therefore views NATO countries as
participating in the war. He had this warning of Russian
retaliatory strikes on on military hardware on sites,
soldiers in NATO countries. And he said that the current armed
conflict with the West is developing according to the
worst case scenario. And he suggested that more Russia could
use tactical nuclear weapons against Ukraine saying this is
not a nuclear bluff.
So that could be interpreted as a change of tone.
Well, you have to remember that nuclear saber rattling is not
new. I mean, we've heard so much over the last two years plus
from Mr. Medvedev and from other Russian officials from President
Putin as well. And you could construct an argument that says
they've been saying this kind of thing since the very beginning.
So is this simply a bluff? But I think the Russians in the last
few days have been going out of the way to try to make the
argument that no this is not a bluff, that they could be put
into in a situation where they have to respond.
Adam Curry: I'm going to visit my daughter in two weeks. Got
that no agenda meet, how can we please hold off a world war
three until I'm back. And maybe I can grab my daughter and bring
her with me. These people are crazy. But you know, it's it
technically. It's not really Russia, there'll be shooting
these long range weapons out, or is it the way
Unknown: Moscow sees it? Crimea is Russian territory, all those
four Oblast that it is invaded and partially occupied. Done yet
Luhansk Hassan ends up Russia, it considers to be a part of the
territory of the Russian Federation. That's not the way
the rest of most of the rest of the world sees it. So
theoretically, those weapons that already been deployed to
hit Russian targets in those occupied areas of Ukraine are
hitting Russian soil. So you could say in a way, nothing is
really changing. What I think the wet Yeah.
Adam Curry: No, yeah, that's already kind of Russia. So you
know, nothing's changed. This is a setup here. Give it to the
Russians, man, it'll end it
Unknown: would be very keen to avoid is seeing not just Western
supplied weapons, but any powerful Ukrainian weapons being
used to hit a strategic target, say, Moscow, the Kremlin. You
know, Ukrainian drones are hitting Russian oil refineries
deep within Russia. The US doesn't like that, because for
started, restricts the amount of refined oil that's coming onto
the world market and therefore drives prices up which isn't
good for us consumers at the pumps, but it also worries it
about escalation. So far, the West has called Putin's bluff,
and he's turned out to have a lot of empty threats. But sooner
or later the fear is I think he will retaliate in some form. Oh,
Adam Curry: well, just just lovely. And of course, there is
an election taking place in the UK. And well, if you thought
McCrone was nuts, how about trying to get elected on this
platform?
Unknown: The UK election campaign is one week old now.
And Rishi said ex government has got off to a rather lackluster
start. So next man gamba is introducing military service for
young people, a move that his old master had previously ruled
out and the former military chief has called bonkers. The
Tories are expected to lose July for its election to care
starburns Labour Party
Adam Curry: bonkers is right.
John C Dvorak: Bikers that gets rolling the election. I mean, we
already knew that the labor is going to kick ass in this next
election in England and we've talked about this before. I
think I mentioned the newsletter Hey, my my Andrew Loski is a
friend of mine writer and in London, the red fighter he
spotted all these ways worse for the independent are the guides
want to telegraph I don't know he's writing for someone. And
he's always if he has a good column he always sends sends it
to me. But he's kind of always very accurate about this stuff.
And he says the laborers is going to kill these guys and the
lectures they just have for all these mayors as all the labor
guys taken over the Tories the Conservatives has screwed up so
bad yeah. And this Rishi guy's an idiot that he
Adam Curry: doesn't want him because he doesn't want to be
the prime minister during the war.
John C Dvorak: Probably a good idea. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Jesus come soon. If so to climate have to climate
change, clearly ease to climate change Eclipse, then I'm done
for today.
John C Dvorak: Climate change I have Do I have anything? I don't
think so. I have a couple I had the Mexico elections which has
had taken place as we speak. Oh, how boring. No, it's gonna be a
big deal. They got two women running against each other. And
the Mexican corruption is out of control. These are
Adam Curry: long clips. Yeah, I know what's gonna happen. You're
gonna be like, too long, man. You want to tell me what you
want to play. Play.
John C Dvorak: The election, Mexico elections fought the
fifth clip play the last clip rule
Adam Curry: going all the way for the jugular.
Unknown: We mentioned that this campaign season has been
exceptionally violent. How has that played into this election?
How is it affected, especially in those many local races that
are taking place?
Well, we already saw a sign of organized crime muscling its way
into local and state political processes in Mexico's 2021
midterm elections. And then it happened again in two key
gubernatorial races on the border with the United States
state of Tamaulipas in the state of Ohio, which is one of the
most violent wracked states in Mexico. So the big question mark
is a whether we will see signs of violence on Sunday, and to
the most important issue is whether organized crime will
seek to whip or suppress the vote on behalf of Medina, come
Sunday. Wow.
Adam Curry: And that's today
John C Dvorak: is happening as we speak.
Adam Curry: So One of two women sorry, one of two women will
win. That's the idea.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's two women running against each other
one of them's part of the obrigada door faction is that
which is totally corrupt and she's running on she'll win and
then the other one is going to crack down on crime now she'll
she's not gonna get in now because nobody wants to they
take the Mexican elections are rigged. Okay, let's go
Adam Curry: to they have dominion voting machines.
John C Dvorak: Doesn't make any difference that that that's just
a red herring of facts.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, I happen to have a Mexico climate change
clip. How about that? Isn't that great? All right. I knew you'd
like that.
Unknown: across Mexico. In the poorest areas of its major
cities, people face a common problem, a lack of clean water.
60% of the country is in drought in areas like this lack the
proper infrastructure to get adequate supply to people on a
daily basis. Another problem is that he Awana city that we're in
right now, it's the last stop on the Colorado River, which serves
40 million people in seven US states and two here in Mexico.
Do you want to successive governments have failed to plan
for diminishing supply in the region. But there's an even more
drastic situation in the capital Mexico City home to 22 million
people there 90% of that city just facing severe drought
driven by climate change. There
Adam Curry: it is. I like the tagline. Whatever it is report,
report report report driven by climate change. Yep. Intel
Inside driven by climate change. This is the last one for me.
Because I realize now I've been barking up the wrong tree. I
have been looking at how carbon credits and trading carbon
credits, it seems like that was all a red herring. The carbon
reserve has verified now the Toko to CEO. And it turns out
that carbon is actually going to be our new money. At least this
with this Toko. And this carbon reserve, which I guess is you
know, there they will be creating the the Toko money,
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna use a graphite pencil. Well,
Adam Curry: the concept here is if I understand that I have a
promotional video, the concept is that you buy at your Toko,
which is backed by each Toko is backed by a ton of carbon
credits, or just carbon, I'm not sure. Listen to this. Every day,
Unknown: we create co2 emissions that warm the planet. And the
more the world develops, the tougher things become for
nature. By changing the way we think about money, we can create
a system where the environment and economies thrive because of
each other, not in spite of each other. What if removing carbon
from the atmosphere was as easy as paying for your coffee? We
can with Toko. Toko is a currency that removes carbon
from the atmosphere. Whether you spend it on stuff, trade it or
save it to offset your carbon footprint, it's all does the
same thing. It creates more demand for carbon reduction.
Each Toko in circulation is represented by one tonne of
carbon removed from the atmosphere and held in a central
reserve on behalf of all Toko users. It's a way to turn
economic activity into environmental wealth. It's a way
for communities to address together and solve the climate
crisis. It's money as tons of carbon, download the telco
wallets and start making a difference with every
transaction. We can take action against climate change. We can
with Toko
John C Dvorak: you can you idiot.
Adam Curry: Well, actually the choco wallet already has
partners like Airbnb you can pay for your Airbnb with toco toco
John C Dvorak: toco Yeah, we have Tokota we have climate
change meets Bitcoin. Yes. The marrow. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. It's beautiful. Environmental wealth,
John. We can build environmental wealth together. We should be
accepting tacos for this very show.
Unknown: Yes. No. I'm gonna show my school by donating to no
agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah,
that'd be fun
Adam Curry: and we have some producers to thank from $50 up
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Adam Curry: she wrote
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was kind of a dud this was the big get John out of the house
meet up man. I guess nobody cares. But I went to it and I we
did get some donations which I'll bring into the next show.
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Adam Curry: Well, you'll tell us on Thursday, I won't
John C Dvorak: let him think he's getting away with it. David
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Adam Curry: actually says he still downloads the mp3 with G
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John C Dvorak: Wow. Wow. hopping into his dumb phone. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Is Cat B 40. Nice. Old school broke. I hope you
come to the meetup.
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Adam Curry: hollyball. Which means Hey, farmer,
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Adam Curry: she says her first payment so I'm going to deduce
her then. You've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: Marilyn Osborne in Cincinnati, Ohio. Another D
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Adam Curry: he needs some stroke recovery karma at the end. You
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Adam Curry: is at 88 with the fees. So it's all chip in
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John C Dvorak: We're not doing divorce karma. David Cox in
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Adam Curry: Good one,
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that's 75 donation plus fees. Benjamin Harwood in Houston,
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Adam Curry: had figured out throw something your way after
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Adam Curry: Well my Christians better show up. Yes
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Adam Curry: Marina fu K fu K. Less
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Unknown: deed duced
John C Dvorak: David Adrian in Cary, North Carolina 5678 Sir
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have another Dutch person that's in Orangevale which is you know,
that's another
Adam Curry: weird another Dutch master. Search
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John C Dvorak: Hello Kitty 272 Wesley store in Mesa, Arizona
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5270 too and they go right into the 50 So we're gonna just do
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John C Dvorak: got that part right close every second year in
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I've always pronounced his name awkwardly as Shaker Heights,
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Adam Curry: Chile. Oh, really? Yes. Chile you Hello, Chile.
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Adam Curry: Dead. Tom's Thompson is flown around. Yeah. became an
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John C Dvorak: People get angry to place a Trump on it was that
Adam Curry: the American flag is now a Trump flag. Just a regular
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Unknown: you want to go hang out with Dyson days. You won't be
triggered you to be safe.
Adam Curry: This guy got a like a like a party like a party like
a party like a party. All right. I have. Boy I have 1235 It's
going on with me. I five five ISOs to choose from you wanna do
yours first?
John C Dvorak: No, I want to hear those.
Adam Curry: Okay, here we go. Driven by climate change. Is
that one? Oh wait, no agenda. Is that one? It was super fun. I
kinda like that one. It's gonna make your life so much better.
Or my favorite big big big Did you like any of them?
John C Dvorak: The one that you kind of liked was I think was
usable. was the second to the last or tool and it was super
fun. That one might be okay, I got two and then they have an
optional third
Adam Curry: one of my plan here What am I playing?
John C Dvorak: You're playing ISO stick.
Adam Curry: Look, I think it's a bad plug on a stick. Not Not
audible enough. You don't know what that is? No. It was you
couldn't hear it. That's why it was me It sucked because that's
the
John C Dvorak: way it came across. You knew it was a long
time ago and it was over compressed I was no good. Okay,
now I have Windows sounds like a serial killer signing us off
into
Adam Curry: Show. Bye Bye. You don't need to I don't need to
hear any more. That's the one show bye bye. Yeah, very nice.
And now ladies gentlemen first time for a new segment on the
show John
Unknown: C double check with the to the day he's gonna tell us
would he would do in every possible way. John
Adam Curry: just a tip. Yeah. And we need jingles everybody we
need jingles. Yeah, anything
John C Dvorak: but that we got. Okay, so I'm recommending a
product. All right, that people will get a kick out if it's an
AI product which kind of you know, you will hate so you don't
you shouldn't even look at it. But it's called 11. It's
11 labs.io is the URL and they just introduced the sound
effects section. And there's this thing is got what makes it
fun this 11 Labs what is the number of hallucinations that it
creates? Oh, and
Adam Curry: do you have any examples? I
John C Dvorak: do but first I'm going to play that a series of
douchebag clips all from the same prompt This is 11 Labs i Oh
douchebags.
Adam Curry: Okay, here we go. Yeah, have you a douche bag?
Here? If you're a douche bag
Unknown: I don't think so. You douche bag
Adam Curry: we finally found a use for AI s fantastic
John C Dvorak: to play the non hallucination clip which is she
says exactly what I put in as the prompt and I'm going to play
the hallucination this is non hallucination clip No, no no,
you're playing the wrong clip. It says non clip is titled non
hallucination.
Adam Curry: Sorry, here we go. And if so you do spec. Now I
don't know what to choose.
John C Dvorak: There's only one left. So that was a show you
douche bag, which is in a sexy voice, which I didn't ask for. I
asked for a person saying end of show you douche bag. And you
also have to put it in phonetically because they can't
pronounce the actual spelling douchebag Oh
Adam Curry: really, really?
John C Dvorak: Worked. Yeah. Really?
Adam Curry: What kind of AI is that?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you tell me. So but it hallucinates so
much now you just heard that clip. End of show? Was it end of
show you douchebag here's the hallucination version
what is that? How
Adam Curry: did that even come about? I don't, I don't
understand.
John C Dvorak: I did I could play that. Actually, the
hallucinations are funnier than any of the clips. But it's like
some of them are just so and there's music as a music bed and
a lot of them. I had one of I didn't clip it. But I said
something like this almost the same clip with your douche bag.
But it started playing by Papa's got a brand new bag. RIFF at the
end this music thing. It's unbelievable. But this is a fun
product for people to play with.
Adam Curry: Again, the name of the product and the domain where
we can find this fine product is your tip of the day.
John C Dvorak: 11 labs.io All right, everybody. And they've
just recently introduced the sound effects. Sound effects.
All right.
Unknown: From John C Dvorak kids was just
Adam Curry: had help. Help us please help us with the jingles
for Jon's tip. They are good tips though. I'll give him I'll
give you that. End of show mixes coming up from Brian longenecker
Professor J. Jones coming in from China and a classic Trump
rotation which seemed a proposed for today's conviction episode.
Up next on no agenda stream we have the title of the douchebags
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coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country here in
Fredericksburg where there's a new sheriff in town. In the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where we are
right where we were. And Jhansi Dvorak
Adam Curry: is an AI hallucination is you're not even
real. I knew it. I know it. I knew it. Remember us had no
agenda donations.com until Thursday, adios mofos or Hui
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Unknown: motion artists always talking about stupid month.
Month doesn't know what he's talking about. Like punch in the
face, national disasters embarrassment to this country.
It makes me so angry that this country has gotten to this point
that this full disposal as wound up where he has. He wants to
punch people in the face. Well, I like to punch him in the face.
Adam Curry: And what is the climate change? Pete Buda, Judge
heat waves that
Unknown: shouldn't statistically even be
John C Dvorak: possible and I should mention this
Adam Curry: boy is he sitting
John C Dvorak: here yakking away write this down people.
Adam Curry: What does that mean?
Unknown: can vote for Trump? You should you should try it this
cool.
Adam Curry: Have you seen these reports? Statistically it could
never be this hot the hottest year on record climate change.
They've proven in court that PCR is only 3% accurate to be
Unknown: clear. Something is
that extreme is very rare, but
John C Dvorak: I don't know why he's even talking he's we need
more Portuguese
Adam Curry: this week to show more criminals threatening
Unknown: to melt the cables of transit systems in
Adam Curry: any Seattle boots on the ground.
Unknown: Turbulence goes up by about 16%
Adam Curry: Do you heard it wrong in the briefing bore.
Hello, Miss testifies. What do you think the most annoying
thing is that people do to the flight attendants I'd say worst
ever write this down people keep your seatbelt. Probably a good
policy people are insane. This he says you can't even touch
strippers. That's exactly what she said. And now he's saying
speedways that should statistically not even be
John C Dvorak: possible demand of income we get from it as
Neil. Our climate
Unknown: is evolving. They're poking
Adam Curry: the flight attendants. This testifies, that
was rare, but you're saying you do expect to see more incidents
like that here in the US the number is 55%.
John C Dvorak: And I should mention this
Adam Curry: stop poking your flight attendant
John C Dvorak: I have my list and you might want to see if
there's anything I left out this is the Trump rotation and his
two categories is the regular and then there's the criminal
but here we go. Ready? Liar, incompetent, unhinged,
illegitimate President white supremacist, racist bully,
immature Russian agent narcissist mean long ties,
insane tweets too much small hands all penis big red button a
criminal. Mean racist immature sin skin runs the MA has no
money. Unstable, fatter than 239 pounds. Bang Grubb 25th
amendment that should be instituted. He hates women
misogynist holds grudges forever plays golf allied obstruction of
justice, money laundering and clown John
Adam Curry: No wonder we're making America white again.
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