Unknown: Hey, Adam curry
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winning nation media assassination episode 1637. This
Unknown: is no agenda. We
Adam Curry: got Israeli motivations and we're
broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here
and figurines number six in the morning, everybody
John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where we all say
Happy Chinese New Year. I'm Jhansi. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: Yes. And this one they start spreading some
disease. Yeah. It was, yeah, it was around this time. Was it
three years ago, four years ago. I can't remember now, as it was,
I think it was almost four years ago. Can you believe in? how
long we've been dealing with that bullcrap.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, you know, that's what you do. And
had to be almost four years ago because it was right when Trump
was leaving office. Yes. And I went to actually it was before
that. So during Trump's administration, he had to deal
with nine months. That's right. That's right. He
Adam Curry: was blocked off. He was racist. He was blocking
trice from jet flight from China. Yeah, yeah. Were you a
racist, racist, racist, xenophobic, and, and so now here
we are four years later, and the you're
John C Dvorak: good, you get your booster. I get more
boosters. I need I need great. Works great.
Adam Curry: I need to schedule I'm lagging and the UK Office
for National Statistics. You know, they find these excess
deaths. Very annoying. So what do we do just like we do in the
financial markets, when we don't like the numbers, what do we do?
We just try that we just, we just changed the way we count
Unknown: doing. And since the Coronavirus pandemic, we've
generally seen more people die than we'd expect. We call these
deaths above average excess deaths. Different organizations
have used different ways to calculate this, each with merit
in particular uses, for example, for planning health
interventions, and identifying emerging threats. In the spirit
of continuous improvement, we've been working with independent
experts and those across government and the devolved
nations to develop a common UK wide approach. Using our new
approach. Today's release estimates 11,000 excess deaths
in 2023. While this is lower than our previous estimate, our
new method accounts for the growth and ageing of the
population. These are key factors in understanding how
many deaths we'd expect to see whether the number of deaths is
below or above this. So here we go. Looking more closely at the
last month for 2023. So we're actually negative excess deaths,
meaning fewer deaths, in average being registered for the back
across the pandemic for trends and peaks in excess deaths are
the same using the new method as they were under the old method.
It's important to note that our estimates of excess deaths are
just estimates. They can't be counted individually, unlike
death registrations, which haven't changed.
Adam Curry: I mean, could it get first of all, nice music bed
Office for National Statistics? I mean, they just didn't like
it. Oh, it was 11,000. So we just changed it. And now it's
negative. So shut up conspiracy theorists. And by the way, these
are estimates we can't really even know. Hmm. The insurance
the insurance companies seem to know. They seem to Yeah, they go
along, but now they know they know the numbers. It's it's I
mean, I'm just I'm flabbergasted. I mean, I'm not
really surprised. But still, I mean, kind of flabbergasted. You
know? Crazy. Not quite as crazy as the latest breaking news,
breaking news breaking news. They're at it again. Oh my god.
We've got to deploy fighter
Unknown: jets tonight in the skies above the western United
States NORAD sending up fighter jet fighters back to high
altitude balloon flying at 43,000 to 45,000 feet and
official tells us the balloon is some 50 feet tall with a two
foot payload. Its contents are unknown, and they do not believe
the balloon is being steered remotely. The military first
spawning in over Utah. It is now drifting east. No word on who
sent the balloon where it's going or what its mission might
be. The Biden administration keenly aware it comes just a
year after a Chinese spy balloon was spotted flying clear across
the country. President Biden ordering it shot down off the
coast of South Carolina. That balloon was much larger than the
balloon currently drifting across the country. Its payload
alone was the size of three buses. Tonight the origin of
this new balloon unclear but officials telling us it does not
pose a threat to national security.
Still a lot of questions over this. Let's get right to Mary
Bruce live at the White House tonight and Mary's
Adam Curry: very excited scrambled rambling, saying,
Well, what are we saying?
Unknown: Well, David, for now, they
are continuing to closely track and monitor this. They
determined that as of now, this does not pose a risk to flight
safety. And we're told NORAD and the FAA are closely coordinating
to make sure it stays that way.
Adam Curry: You're with a guy who went way way. Wait,
John C Dvorak: wait, what does she mean by make sure it stays
that way? Is that thing going to morph into a flying saucers? I'm
going to change the transformer.
Adam Curry: Exactly. Oh, this is just I guess this is China fear.
You know, hey, we got to scramble some jets. We need more
money.
John C Dvorak: Can you imagine how much money it costs to
scramble a bunch of jets?
Adam Curry: I'm sure one of our producers could actually give us
the figure. I'm sure they actually know. It's not like we
could get it from a pentagon audit. But yeah, I'm sure so
where,
John C Dvorak: by the way? Yes.
Adam Curry: Yes. Do tell. Where's
John C Dvorak: that Pentagon audit?
Adam Curry: Did you see that the Marine Corps passed a full
financial audit? No. Yeah. Semper
John C Dvorak: Fi. Yeah. Well, I mean, somebody can do the job.
Let me see what it's turned over the Pentagon to the Marines. Oh,
they they that should get us some donations. Right.
Adam Curry: full financial audit for the first time with the
service announcing Friday, its fiscal 2023 financial audit
received an unmodified audit opinion. This is interesting
after a rigorous two year review, how do you get how do
you get a two year review for 2023? Audit? It's only 2024.
John C Dvorak: Well, they must they obviously referring to
combination 22 and 23. I guess. I guess it's a milestone or they
do time travel. Maybe that's it. It's
Adam Curry: it's a milestone. It's a beautiful thing. You
remember that guy? Actually, I met the guy who wrote the book
about it. Who had a lawn chair and he tied Boutwell weather
balloons to it. And he wound up flying up to like 50,000 feet.
And planes were spotting him and he had a BB gun to shoot the
balloons to go back down again. Remember that guy?
John C Dvorak: I remember something about Yeah, like the
one that had the kid in it. There was nothing
Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, that was Oh, man. That was the best hoax.
Balloon Boy Balloon Boy. Yeah, no, this is not Balloon Boy. Now
the guy it was it was in the late 90s I think. Yeah. And he
had a whole bunch of balloons tied to tied to his lawn chair
and floated up. We should try that. Somebody should try that
again. And you get you know, scramble some fighter you're
John C Dvorak: good balloon is you could pull that
Adam Curry: off. It would be funny. If if the fighter enough
the fighter jets. We knew what he was doing. If the fighter
jets were scrambled, and then flying by and there's a dude in
a lawn chair. I mean,
John C Dvorak: what if one of them thought it was funny to be
strafing him?
Adam Curry: Come on. Where's your American humor? Were fun at
this that wouldn't be humorous waved the Jets. This thing was
only 40,000 feet you know you can you can get up there for a
little bit with some oxygen not too long, but it might be
chilly. It's been done before.
John C Dvorak: Before we get to the good stuff. Yes. I think we
should at least do a little review. What happened? There was
an election. That Trump one yes. And Nikki Haley staying in the
in the race even though she had her ass kicked in her own state.
Yes. But she's staying in because the Democrats are
keeping her going.
Adam Curry: I have a clip of Nikki if you want to hear a
clip. Love it.
Unknown: Today in South Carolina. We're getting around
40% of the vote.
That's one way of looking at it.
Adam Curry: By the way, the 40% of vote is only 19,000 people
it's not like this was some big thing.
Unknown: That's about what that's about what we got New
Hampshire to. I'm gonna count it. I know 40% is not 50%. But I
also know 40% is not some tiny group is 19,000
Adam Curry: people. Big deal. It wasn't 19
John C Dvorak: I think it was more No, no, I
Adam Curry: looked at numbers. It was 19,000 people. And Trump
had now 22 Or something I'm surprised it didn't break out in
in a little bit of rap there. You know, there's
Unknown: lots of noise in politics, people. Other with
great big steps. Nikki Haley stands above them. Rest. She's
been pulling food to the test with Trump the bully.
Adam Curry: I can't get enough of Tim Draper heels with twice
John C Dvorak: it's mine. He's financing the whole thing.
Adam Curry: Of course he's financing it. That's why he's a
she should have played his song. I mean, it's rude. There we go.
Unknown: There, there are huge numbers of voters in our
Republican primaries who were saying they want an alternative.
I said earlier this week that no matter what happens in South
Carolina, I would continue to run for as
Adam Curry: long as Draper finances me because he believes
Trump's going to jail. I'm a woman of my word. There's your
sound bite. There's your sound bite.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so Nikki Haley got 298,674 votes.
Adam Curry: No, I guess I was looking at the wrong numbers
then. I think so. Well, this is why they're two of us. Thank
you.
John C Dvorak: Trump got five 451,900 oh five
Adam Curry: go wow. Oh, that was that's a spanking a spanking of
epic proportion. Did you see him bring up? Lindy Hop, gray ham.
Trump
John C Dvorak: dead they were both up there him and the other
senator. It
Adam Curry: was kind of weird because everyone was booing him.
Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're boring but they keep reelecting
him shot. Does that make sense? You
Unknown: want to hear it? Sure. A lot of people
he doesn't do too much. He happens to be a little bit
further left on the stage. But I always say when I'm in trouble
on the left, I call out Lindsey Graham.
Adam Curry: backhanded slam
No, no. Remember? Remember what we remember. Remember the main
we remain free remember my Dawn yesterday? Remember? war monger
Lindsey. Good man
he looks he looks kind of inebriated. He sounded okay. He
sounded he sounded okay. But he was really flush. You know, like
kind of like he probably
John C Dvorak: the easiest one. It gives a lot of let's put it.
Obviously people that are in Washington DC know how to drink.
Yeah. And so they can drink a lot is still sound kind of
sober. You want to and that's what he what? He I'm sure he was
drinking heavily. He would hope. I don't know what he was hoping
for. But
Adam Curry: Oh, here he is. Okay, all
Unknown: right. Yeah.
America, the nightmare you're facing is just about over the
way this is the most qualified man be president.
And the President said that South Carolina created the
biggest political act in American history.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, okay, so I got some analysis from PBS. Oh,
well, my favorite correspondent to Lopez woman though
Adam Curry: I have her later, too. Yes, the Lopez. You know,
she's kind of annoying. You think? She's a little bit
annoying? Yes. Yeah. And she's very than a
John C Dvorak: little very. She
Adam Curry: is very biased.
John C Dvorak: Oh, she's a she's a bigoted woman. Correspondent,
typical PBS. I don't know. Do you have one of those hires?
Yeah, they may have very few. He knows the
Adam Curry: higher the next the DEI hires that we are
insinuating here.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Okay. She's I'm not saying she's
incompetent. She's a good she does Jen flub, she's not. But
she you can just see she's so she's worse than anyone they've
had before for being biased. And I want to play three clips.
Adam Curry: It's PBS it should be representative of all of
America. It's called that
John C Dvorak: those days. guide with one of my thinking when I
fall. That's
Adam Curry: right. And how we miss good old Gwen. She was
good. She
John C Dvorak: was good. Well, she's I think the one that put
the kibosh on a lot of the stuff they were trying to do. And
let's go with election. Analysis. Lopez one out for
Unknown: the latest law, it's fair to say President Biden has
an because he has some gap among some in his base, who are the
voters that he's having the most trouble with right now.
He's having a lot of trouble with young voters and voters of
color on that. And I spoke to Nancy's dunkel wits who is a
democratic pollster with Zita, a research. And she recently
conducted focus groups with Latino voters, black voters, and
moderate Republicans and especially among Latino voters.
She said that there was a Hispanic woman in that group who
questioned the President's message on the economy
specifically that they weren't happy when they heard the
president, compare us inflation rates to other countries
inflation rates, trying to present what they thought was
too rosy of a picture in terms of US economy. And ultimately
Nancy's it, uncle, it said that what Democrats have is a
messenger problem. This might be a sort of reverse coattails kind
of election, where we see that statewide Democrats and
congressional Democrats are carrying the president across
the line. I can't tell you a single state right now where
I've surveyed where statewide Democrat was not more popular,
and exceeding the vote share of the President. So don't go into
Warren that this is a real problem for Democrats. And it's
not something that they can wish away.
Adam Curry: Women so the the wonderful analysis from PBS here
is the Democrats have a messenger problem really? Gee,
gee, gee, who would have thought
John C Dvorak: they finally Yeah, they're coming around to
this conclude, because they're their guy
Adam Curry: is is an old abused, dude, who can't really
communicate who can't remember things. They come up with a
never No, no, no, no, that's not working any more than letting
them go. They're
John C Dvorak: gonna de have little. Here's my thesis, or
hypothesis. Yeah, you
Adam Curry: name it, whatever you want. They have
John C Dvorak: let him slide from the from the uppers as long
as they can. So they can really pump him up for the Union
address in March. Because they can't keep them pumped up
because he's gonna blow. He's
Adam Curry: gonna explode. I don't know. I don't know if he's
gonna make it.
John C Dvorak: So he's gonna get to the State of the Union.
They're gonna give it to him. He's gonna be so wired for that
speech. There was just this guy's got lots of energy.
Adam Curry: You want? Yeah. And I'm, I'm waiting
John C Dvorak: for the state that state of the union is going
to be a killer. Alright, let's go with Lopez to
Unknown: to the economy remains a challenging issue. But where
is the President seeing any traction, what issues and with
what voters?
As I mentioned, on the Nancy's uncle, it spoke to moderate
Republicans as well. And so in that focus group, they found
that when they presented the contrast between President Biden
and former President Donald Trump that a lot of those
moderate Republicans started to move more towards President
Biden specifically on like democracy January 6, and on
abortion.
John C Dvorak: Wait, so the Republican moderates are voting
because of democracy? Yes, yes. And January 6, that's what's at
the top of their mind. They're thinking, Oh, my God, that
January 6, bowl crap, that I'm thinking, Oh, that's that means
I've been a vote for Biden, because I don't want that to
happen again. And oh, and Trump's a threat to democracy,
even though everybody left and right including now Hawaii's
trying to take him off the ballot. That's democratic. Okay,
so we'll go with that analysis.
Adam Curry: You sound very animated and somewhat upset.
John C Dvorak: I'm very upset. I'm upset with the bull crap. I
mean, do you really think that any Republican is voting based
on the January 6?
Adam Curry: No, I don't. But you know, that they're gonna try
they're gonna try and push that. I mean, that was their big TV
show. That was that was the big thing they had they got Liz
Cheney. They got they got everybody to
John C Dvorak: get and every one of them got voted out shortly
thereafter. They're
Adam Curry: desperate. There's obvious they're desperate. This
lady, this pollster. She's Democrat, Democrat pollster.
Hello. I mean, that it's lies, lies and statistics. And
John C Dvorak: clips worry
Unknown: that abortion, she said is the second most important
issue that they're hearing from a lot of voters across the
board, not just moderate Republicans. The two fixes that
Democrats could have for that she said is that President Biden
needs to be very clear about his platform for a second term, and
also get more surrogates out there that could boost his
message. Oh, yeah,
Adam Curry: they need surrogates. All right. Wow.
Well,
John C Dvorak: I haven't read it yet, because I've heard other
analysis that says, including from Jen Psaki, no goodness, you
have came out on one of their shows and say, Oh, Biden's gotta
get out there more. Yeah. Be out in front. No, Mercer gets
screwed that this has Biden
Adam Curry: she tries to sabotage them. What is she
doing?
John C Dvorak: I don't know what she's up to.
Adam Curry: That's crazy. You don't you don't want it? You're
right. And we We got to keep him in the Adrenochrome, you know,
tight until the State of the State of the Union. Meanwhile,
Turkish Radio Television Did, did an interesting report of the
South Carolina primary and came up with this
Unknown: today for the past two days in South Carolina. We've
been hearing the same message from voter after voter. They
believe only one man can defeat the president occupant of the
White House.
My vote for Donald Trump. We've got to get Biden out of office.
We've got a it's it's a shame what is being done to the man is
old
to
Adam Curry: South Carolina Republicans. They even have
compassion for Joe but
Unknown: there were very few people bucking the trend. Many
of the votes Haley did get were from Democrats so determined to
stop Trump that they temporarily switched parties. Now
Adam Curry: listen to this lady, and tell me this is not a
maniacal person.
Unknown: I voted outside of my party because I think it's
important for somebody other than President Trump to have a
chance so I voted for Nikki Haley
but you're a Democrat. I am so you're you're taking part in the
Republican primary.
I am. Yep. First time ever my parents would be horrified.
Adam Curry: Tell me tell me that person isn't deranged. Wow.
rather interesting, then we them, you know, but so here's
the unhinged part. And people are coming apart at the seams
and it's kind of weird. Bob Costas, I don't know much about
sports ball. But I remember Bob Costas. Bob Costas was the cool
collected dude, who did the sports ball announcement. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: And he they actually game a late night show
for a while he took over from stock Tom Snyder. Right. And he
could do what Tom Snyder's old it's called The Late Late Show,
whatever was
Adam Curry: called he couldn't Broadway.
John C Dvorak: Well, he actually could. Yeah, he was pretty good.
But he was not. He was not as good as Snyder's
Adam Curry: run into some controversy. Didn't he get
kicked off for that? Because I'm, why do I even know this?
But I have a feeling that he got D platformed. I'm sure it's I'm
sure Italy on page because he didn't he have some I'm gonna
say sex scandal when there's something like that. Anyway, he
was on Smerconish. He was on Smerconish and the poor Bob
Costas coming apart, you come
Unknown: at this from a position of not wanting to see Trump get
elected. You should state that at the outset. True. Yes,
absolutely. He is by far the most disgraceful figure in
modern presidential history. He's only become more
disgraceful since 2016. And since 2020, he has a bubbling
cauldron of loathsome traits. And it's only those who are
actually suffering from Trump derangement syndrome, which is
the way they and Fox News and all the rest of Magha media try
to brush aside all the legitimate criticisms of Trump,
you have to be in the throes of some sort of toxic delusion, in
an A toxic cult to believe that Donald Trump has ever been in
any sense, emotionally, psychologically, intellectually
or ethically fit to be president of the United States.
Adam Curry: So you gotta be in some kind of cult.
John C Dvorak: Man play the beginning of that clip, again,
just the first couple sentences. Sure
Unknown: you come at this from a position of not wanting to see
Trump get elected. You should state that at the outset. True.
Yes, absolutely. He is by far the most disgraceful figure in
modern presidential history. He's only become more
disgraceful since 2016. Yeah, okay. So what specifically is he
talking about?
Adam Curry: He's because he's putting people into a coat. This
is part of a narrative. I didn't want to do it this early in the
show, but I might as well there's a there's a narrative
that they've been way just waiting, waiting to spring and
you know, the, it's the whole religious cults mean, and
they've just been waiting to do this. And they finally got an
opportunity. And when I say they, that's the Democratic
machine. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: yeah. But I'm gonna stop you before he I want
to hear this. But I'd like to know specifics here. If you're
going to start making these accusations that all the
Democrats do Oh, Trump is a criminal. Oh, Trump is this he's
that. Give me one example.
Adam Curry: But why are you asking me I'm not Bob Costas
buf. You're,
John C Dvorak: you're the one with the presentation. Bob
Costas. Did he ever say what the what this disgraceful that? What
does this disgraces worse? Specifically? What are they?
Adam Curry: No, I think Hold on. Again this I didn't want to do
this here but I'm going to do it now let me go back to this Bob
Costas thing because at the end he says in
John C Dvorak: an A toxic cult that's what he says this is the
point of to be in the throes of some sort of toxic delusion in
an A toxic cult visit this is what he likes the word toxics
Yes. So we have to assume that toxic is on the list toxic Yes.
Yes that we're gonna be hearing that's
Adam Curry: yes it is. We kind of roll out the the
John C Dvorak: wildlife toxic by the way it's a good word.
Adam Curry: I thought we had that in toxic what what was the
more recall it again, the Trump
John C Dvorak: was the list Trump derangement syndrome now,
we
Adam Curry: had a list we had we had a name for the list. The
rotation that
John C Dvorak: Trump rotation Yeah, the Trump rotation. Let's
review online. Let's
Adam Curry: review. It's only 58 seconds. Let's see from 2016
Let's see if toxic was on the list. I have
John C Dvorak: my list and you might want to see if there's
anything I left out. This is the Trump rotation and his two
categories is irregular and then there's the criminal but here we
go. Ready? Here we go. Liar, incompetent, unhinged,
illegitimate President white supremacist, racist bully,
immature Russian agent narcissist mean long ties,
insane tweets too much small hands all penis big red button,
criminal. Me racist, immature sin skin runs the Mark has no
money. Unstable, fatter than 239 pounds and bankrupt 25th
amendment and should be instituted. He hates women
misogynist holds grudges forever plays golf a lot obstruction of
justice, money laundering and clown.
Adam Curry: John? No, no wonder we're making America white
again. So no toxic on the list. You're right. It's new. It's new
for the list. But they're going with a different tact. That the
it's been the white Christian nationalists for a while now.
And now we have to make that into a cult. It's not a
religion, by the way. White Nationalist not a religion.
Christian nationalist. Not a Religion. No, it's a cult. And
it's a political cult. And that's what cost is. I don't
think Costas can bring himself to do the full thing. But it
really started with a beautiful switcheroo which included the
University of Alabama, which is a major woke University. I mean,
like major major woke. So
John C Dvorak: there was the as bad as Arkansas.
Adam Curry: Maybe even worse, maybe even worse. Watch the
documentary. Was it Bama with all the girls going there and
social media is an interesting documentary anyway. So in
Alabama, there was a court case that went up to the Allah the
Alabama Supreme Court cup at a two couples you're banging your
mic. It was too cold,
John C Dvorak: not banging the mic? Well, whatever it is
something else and I'm trying to stop it from happening. I'm not
sure what to lubricate. I do have the IVs. No, I
Adam Curry: have it all. I'm not going to lubricate every time
you want me to present it? Or do you want to interject? No, I
John C Dvorak: do. I literally have a clip. of it. Of course.
The PBS clips have
Adam Curry: a million drive to many clips, I can't even play
them all. But I want to I want to explain because it's fun to
see the switcheroo. And we don't need to have a clip necessarily
about what actually happened. Other than two couples in
Alabama, they had had children with IVF IVF. IVF is where you
actually create the child and in a petri dish, and then you
freeze it until you implant it in the womb. And
John C Dvorak: ants for in vitro fertilization.
Adam Curry: Thank you. And you get twins often, by the way,
which is always a fun little side effect. And so they paid a
company to keep their the dad successfully implanted and had
kids both of these couples, and then the company that's supposed
to take care of their embryo, the frozen embryos, they screwed
it up, and they dropped on the floor swept them up. I don't
know what happened, something horrible went wrong. And so they
sued them for wrongful death. Which then, which who knows how
much of this is all a setup, but they sue for wrongful death and
the Supreme Court justice in Alabama, came out with the
opinion says yep, their children. So it's wrongful
death, therefore, you can be penalized for that. And then the
University of Alabama turns around and goes, Oh, well, we
can do any IVF. Now because it's scary, so scary because we might
get sued if we drop a child on the ground, which is the setup
and the switcheroo happens right away in the mainstream
Unknown: women relying on it. IVF and their advocates had
feared the fall of Roe would open the door to States further
restricting reproductive rights. Still, the Alabama decision sent
shockwaves this
case or a case like it could go all the way up to the Supreme
Court at some point. And that's what really puts the future of
fertility care at risk. Kate
Weldon LeBlanc heads up resolve New England, an infertility
support group, her own daughter Sophie was born through IVF. She
calls it an intensely personal and emotional journey between an
individual and her doctor, not politicians and judges, people
do not understand the medicine of reproductive health care. So
Adam Curry: it's already gone away from IVF. Immediately, no
one's talking about the actual case. Now it's Roe v. Wade. It's
the hate children they hate any the Republicans are crazy
Christians, and
Unknown: they are making changes that are going to impact people
that are desperately trying to welcome much wanted children
into their lives.
Adam Curry: Okay. So here's how it gets, I guess, guess what?
John C Dvorak: I love the use of the term much wanted.
Adam Curry: This whole thing is crazy. I'm gonna give you a good
example, with the view because that's where America's women go
to get their news. But
Unknown: you don't want to explain to Republicans want to
stop rich people from having children doesn't make sense. On
the one hand, they
want you to not have an abortion, then they also don't
want you to have more children make up your mind. Does
Adam Curry: that make sense? She's literally lying and turn
and turning everything around,
Unknown: whatever, whatever that I actually think they do want
you to have more children. And they're just not saying the
quiet part out loud, necessarily
Adam Curry: Halston. What is she needs to bring some racism into
it. Remember, it's white Christian nationalists that
we're going after we'll get to that,
Unknown: right, which is multicultural Americans are
going to become the majority population by 20. By 2050, the
Hispanic Hispanic Americans are expected to have the most
population increase of about 6% while the white population is
expected to decrease by about 11%. At this time, the birth
rate for white Americans in this country has been falling since
the great recession. And it's dropped almost 23% between 2007
and 2022. So
Adam Curry: what the view has now done is they've taken it
from rich whities to they you know, they only the rich whities
want to have babies they don't want to have oh, don't give
don't give black and brown people access to this crazy
technology that is brand new apparently. So
Unknown: but when white women beginning the IVF so that is
that they why they want IVF but they can't say yes, an embryo
embryo they they're they're coming out sort of against it
and not being able to explain why they want to have more
American white children born because the birth rate has gone
down. Okay,
Adam Curry: so that's the views take on it. But what really
kicked off was this woman from Politico, Heidi pres Bella. And
she went on MSNBC with Michael Steele is not the guy who used
to be the the president of the Republican Party.
John C Dvorak: He used to be the head of the Republican National
Committee turned Democrat isn't the kind of guy he is is it
Adam Curry: Greg and Ben she just and she did did exactly
what her WaPo because this isn't political owned by WaPo.
John C Dvorak: Slate is
Adam Curry: owned by Wow. Okay. All right. Well, same overlords
as far as I'm concerned. She She kicked it all off and got it
going. And I think she I think she went a bit too far. But it
was beautiful to see Heidi
Unknown: you got the new speaker, Mike Dawson who's not
afraid to wear his Christianity on his SQLI on his sleeve, his
collar his lapel his head wherever he can wear it. How do
members react to that? How are they responding to this real
strong infusion of Christian nationalism into the
John C Dvorak: lie second, this phony baloney this guy who's
who's hateful. We had it once head of the Republican National
Committee once he was booted off he became a Democrat which he
always was. He was never any good at it. He's This is a lie.
I've watched enough of Mike Johnson he rarely talks about
being religious. He is aware of it on his sleeve
Adam Curry: I won't know but this this is a setup that's been
planned. We've got a we've got a documentary and we've
John C Dvorak: got a thesis I'm just pushing back no I love that
crap. I love that you love it. You hear from these boneheads I
Adam Curry: love by the way troll room absolutely spot on.
Meanwhile, white girls are having sex with black men. I
mean, what are we doing? We all know what's really going on.
That's fine. This is America. But no, it's really about making
Trump and his I'm so poor, it's all about Trump. It's all about
Trump. It's all about Trump. And it's a desperate, desperate
attempt
Unknown: a real strong infusion of Christian nationalism into
the body politic of the house.
I've talked with a lot of experts on this and I've seen it
myself with my reporting, Michael, which is the base of
the Republican Party has shifted, right? Remember when
Trump ran in 2016? A lot of the mainline evangelicals wanted
nothing to do with the divorced you know, real estate mogul who
cheated on his wife and with a porn star and all of that,
right? No,
Adam Curry: I don't remember that. Right. What was that
really ever thing did did did the main line Christians run
away from Trump? Because? Because he right, because he
cheated on his wife with a porn star or did you make that up in
your head lady? That right? That's right. That's the part I
love the most is like, right when
Unknown: Trump ran in 2016. A lot of the mainline evangelicals
wanted nothing to do with the divorced you know, real estate
mogul who cheated on his wife and with a porn star and all of
that. Right. Right. So what happened he was surrounded by
this more extremest. You're gonna hear words like Christian
nationalism, like the New Apostolic reformation these
Adam Curry: now this is this is this got my interest in New
Apostolic reformation. This is something that started in in
1996, by a professor, Dr. Peter Wagner. And the you know, it's
not really mainstream anymore did start kind of the
Charismatics movement, which, you know, if this is what
they're failing on, they don't have any video of the
Charismatics in their churches. Because, you know, they're very
moving around and speaking in tongues and very vocal, and
they're completely you know, the Holy Spirit is working through
them. So, this is the cult Angular,
John C Dvorak: by the way. Well, you just pointed out is a
weakness. Yes. Because the I don't think they really know
what they're talking about, probably on any level. No. And
so if they if they knew what they were talking about that
that's what they would go get the and you Ryan role of a
Pentecostal Thursday night or whatever, weird night they do
this, these jumping around things, talking in tongues and
just go for it.
Adam Curry: I mean, we have one guy like that in our church, we
love him, you know, he'll just like he's like as tourists like,
Jesus, and, and he's great. But we only have one, you know, but
so, anyway, so you
John C Dvorak: have to imagine a church full of them. That's what
you
Unknown: need Christian nationalism, like the New
Apostolic reformation, these are groups that you should get very,
very schooled on because they have a lot of power in Trump's
circle. And the one thing that unites they have a lot of power
in Trump's circle, tell him because there's many different
groups orbiting Trump, but the thing that we're not unites them
as Christian nationalists, not Christians, by the way, because
Christian nationalist is very different. Is that
Adam Curry: okay, so Christians is very different from Christian
nationalists. This is this is part of the meme. They're trying
to not piss off Christians, by saying Christian nationalist is
very different
Unknown: unites them as Christian nationalists, not
Christians, by the way, because Christian nationalist is very
different, is that they believe that our rights as Americans, as
all human beings, don't come from any earthly authority. They
don't come from Congress, they don't come to their Supreme
Court. They come from God. Okay,
Adam Curry: newsflash, Heidi. The rights that we have in the
Bill of Rights, as written or established were not given to us
by Congress, or by the Constitution. The Bill of Rights
is a specific denial of things for the government. Then if you
look at the Declaration of Independence, yes, these were a
God given rights. And now, but this is the level of knowledge
of civics amongst this reporting classes
John C Dvorak: that are they're specifically trying to undermine
the Constitution both
Unknown: the problem with that is that they are determining
man, men. Men are determining what God is telling them. And in
the past, that so called natural law is, you know, it's a pillar
of Catholicism. Catholicism, for instance, has been used.
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a second. So we talked to our
lapsed Catholic, is that a pillar of Catholicism? No, I
John C Dvorak: don't know. For
Unknown: good and social justice campaigns. Martin Luther King
evoked it in tos. Yes.
Adam Curry: You said all men are created equal. That's what
Martin Luther King said and that and I think Martin Luther King
said that came from God. But you know, that was Martin Luther
King. He was better
Unknown: talking about civil rights, but now you have an
extremist element of conservative Christians.
Adam Curry: That word I love extremists, not extremists. He
loves
John C Dvorak: that word. Extremis. She says Extremis does
have extremists which everybody in the world says extremist. But
she says extremest Why
Adam Curry: is she doing that? What is the point?
John C Dvorak: Because he used to get it. It's an attention
getter as an attention getting a pronunciation mode work ceramist
Unknown: element of conservative Christians who say that this
applies specifically to issues including abortion, gay
marriage, and it's going much further than that, as you see,
for instance, with a ruling in Alabama, this week that judges
connected to that Dominionist faction in talking about a lot
of other issues, including surrogacy IVF you know, sex
education in schools, is there's a lot in addition,
Adam Curry: okay, so what she's trying to do here and I think
she she overshot the mark is she's trying to tie wear, tie
Dominionism and the New Apostolic. What is it New
Apostolic is a revolution and eon forgot
John C Dvorak: what she said. But they're not working, she
can't do but she can't jumble all these things together like
that, and hope to get any attention, or get any anybody to
go along with it. Because she, she's nuts. She doesn't know
what she's talking about.
Adam Curry: While she tries to will steal tries to bring her
back on track, because she needs to, of course, connect this to
Mike Johnson, the Speaker of your house, you have to
understand, the whole idea is to tell to tell America, the people
who want to run this country are crazy.
Unknown: You know, it's interesting how DSC is these two
men are trying to carve the GOP into their image. You've got the
titular head of the party, Donald Trump, who is not a
paragon of Christian virtue, how do they reconcile that? What is
Is it just about oh, he got us a Supreme Court? Is it just about
he advocates for the things that we advocate doesn't matter
whether or not he himself believes them, or has any type
of moral connection, or even a theocratic one, given what we're
saying,
it really depends on the individual but with let's talk,
for instance, about his spiritual adviser, Paula White,
who was a White House employee, she was his spiritual adviser,
she is connected to this Dominionist movement. And a lot
of those individuals believe that Trump actually was put here
by God, he even tweeted this video, you know, that God gave
us, Trump that he is a serious like, person who is imperfect
vessel, who is nevertheless here, put on earth to do God's
work to put
Adam Curry: it now she's taking that commercial. And she's tying
it all in. I love the effort
Unknown: of Christianity back at the center of civic life. And
you see that manifesting, not just in the course. And we're
seeing that like with the IVF rolling with the myth of per
stone ruling now that is making its way to the Supreme Court.
But with Project 2025, which is an agenda that's being very
detailed agenda that's going to be offered up to President Trump
or if he wins a second term, right. And
Adam Curry: she already knows he's gonna win. Oops. I mean, if
he wins, I mean, it's easy when President Trump
Unknown: to to work through HHS, the Department of Human Health
and Human Services, as well as potentially the FDA that would
really kind of bypass even the courts and Congress to do things
like revoke authorization of the abortion pill. And then and this
is the one that doesn't get enough influence. enough
attention is the influence or campaign that's taking place.
Oh,
Adam Curry: wait, this is the internet. Now we got to bring in
a Charlie Kirk and turning point USA, because these people are
crazy. They are paying influencers right
Unknown: now in the GOP to convince young women to ditch
hormonal birth control that that they are they are sicker, and
they are more stressed out being working women and that they
should embrace being healthier and more natural. And what a
crazy idea being large families and you know, daycare is not
good for your kids either. And all of these things actually
happen at a turning point USA conference for young women
leaders.
Adam Curry: Okay, so she really overshot the mark. She went way
too far, because she was just supposed to tee up some stuff
and let all the serious media like NPR. Oh, yeah, no and NPR.
Unknown: elitist voices in America. This is NPR. So
Adam Curry: when PBS to NPR brings on this guy think Matthew
Taylor. He's a scholar. He's a scholar with a book and he's
going to really explain to us what's going on with these crazy
Christian nationalists Dominionists dominion theology.
Unknown: The concept was coined by a group of radical Calvinist
theologians called
John C Dvorak: for a second Just a little background under the
Dominionist. slur, yes, it was actually developed and maxed out
during the George W. Bush administration for anyone who
wants
Adam Curry: to always think about is that when they, they
tried it there. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: this is when they first came out into Dominionist.
That's when it really got into the forefront. And there was
discussion after discussion about what the Dominionists
want, they want the end of the world, and the end of the world
is going to take place in Israel. And even though the
Syrian six is going to take place someplace else, they
everyone in the Middle East has their own little area where
Armageddon, of course, but the but the Dominionists believe
it's in Jerusalem or something like that, I may have a few
details wrong. But this was going to be the end of the
world. And that's what everyone was pushing for. Because George
W. Bush and the Dominionist want to end the world as we know it,
they want the whole thing to blow up.
Adam Curry: Sorry, that was that
John C Dvorak: was the reason for the so it really became a
big deal. So now they're reintroducing the term and the
group and the red a lot of people are very serious about
being Dominionist. I think I heard from a couple of them
myself. And but it's a it's, it's absolutely one of the most
fringe of fringe, Christian movements, very fringe, and so
to bring it up as a mainstream anything is ludicrous, dominion
Unknown: theology. The concept was coined by a group of radical
Calvinist theologians called the Christian Reconstructionist. In
the 1960s, and 1970s. These ideas were very influential in
the rise of the religious right in the 1980s. It was this
aggressive style of Christian theology that said, Christians
need to fulfill what they would talk about as the Dominion
mandate, take dominion over societies and rule in the name
of Christ. The main vehicle for this idea in ER circles is
something called the seventh mountain mandate, that became a
charismatic rebranding of these Calvinist dominion theology
ideas that Wagner and his cohort mixed together into the seventh
mountain mandate.
And in fact, Justice Parker referred to the seventh mountain
mandate, in an interview he did with an MA our prophet named
Johnny and Lo. And it was published the same day as the
court's decision that embryos count as people.
Adam Curry: I love this stretch. Because I thought it was going
to be in the opinion, I got the PDF of the Alabama judges
opinion, like, oh, there was nothing in there about that. So
he did an interview with an NAR dude. And it came out the same
day. And she doesn't say anything just as off handedly.
Oh, yeah. The seventh mountain mandate, also something I'd
never heard of before.
Unknown: So the seven mountain mandate means that you have to
go into the institutions of government and what else?
The Seven Mountains are family, religion, education, government,
arts and entertainment, media, and business or commerce. Oh,
shit,
Adam Curry: forgot podcasting. What's wrong with you?
Unknown: The idea is if you divide up society into these
seven spheres, as you can rule the world times language you'll
hear used as well. The idea is that those mountains those those
spheres of society are either ruled over by demonic forces, or
by the
John C Dvorak: entertainment. Well, that's exactly Taylor
Swift. It's where
Adam Curry: do we not agree? We gotta agree with that. And
Unknown: so the goal for Christians is to rise to the top
of each of the seven mountains in every society and to displace
the demonic powers through spiritual warfare through
meanwhile
Adam Curry: the Jews are going Hey, media, that's our mountain,
get off our mountain Christian crazy seven
Unknown: mountains in every society, and to displace the
demonic powers through spiritual warfare through prophecy, and
take over conquer the mountains and then let Christian influence
flow down from the top. So if you think about conventional
religious right mobilization, it is tended to filter or channel
conservative Christian indignation into democratic
means. This is a Vanguard move. This is not a grassroots change
society. This is taking over positions of power in society.
Don't get me from the top down.
Adam Curry: Come on, don't don't give me that. A couple more to
go. I'm skipping as much as I can, because I can already hear
you're annoyed.
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, what for one thing, I want to back up
at least once in a while and say, This is so fringe, but it's
ridiculous. They bring it in as something is actually happening
at any level. If you go to seventh mountain mandate, and
Wikipedia, they have this kind of a background emphasis never
really became caught on until, I guess the 2013 And then it was
about to seven mountains, not about the other stuff to
Dominionist and then they have your prominent followers
Adam Curry: now. Okay,
John C Dvorak: who do we have? Mike Johnson? Yeah, exactly.
rafail Cruz, pastor and father of Senator Ted Cruz, you know,
the guy who tried to kill Kennedy? Paul, a white spiritual
adviser. Yeah, Trump. Yes. But this is Lauren Bobert. Really?
Adam Curry: All right. So but but now we have to take this and
we've got to connect it to the
John C Dvorak: right, they actually want to stop again.
This is a site this is bought. This is a setup. This was I'm
going to look into the target. This has recently been been
added.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. This Oh, I totally agree. The seven
mountain mandate Wikipedia page has been updated recently. Look
at the look at the edits. Yeah, looking now. Okay, so then he
goes into separation of church and state, which I'm going to
skip that one. But what we need to do we need to, we need to
connect these crazy people, these crazy Dominionist, seven
mountain charismatic nut jobs, also known as Christian
nationalists, to January 6,
Unknown: but how much of this rhetoric is metaphorical? I
mean, are we talking about real demons? When they talk about
picking up weapons? Are they talking about real weapons?
They would say it's not metaphorical. They believe the
demons are real. But they would say they are only talking about
spiritual warfare. No challenges. If you go and listen
to their rhetoric, it is incredibly violent, violent,
they're pointing at actual people, pointing at the
Democratic Party pointing at disloyal Republicans as they
view them, and saying, Those people are not actually
responsible for their actions because they are being
orchestrated by demons. And we need to fight the demons. And
this literal demonization of their enemies is one of the
major contributing factors to the chaos on January 6, they are
pointing at them and saying that building is infested with
demons, we need to fight the demons. I did
Adam Curry: not hear those chants. On January 6, I haven't
seen that footage. And it's only
Unknown: a matter of time. If you keep doing that before
someone says, Yeah, we need to fight against those people. So
that they are leaders are careful, they know where the
line is between truly irresponsible speech that could
get you in legal trouble. None of them have been prosecuted or
even face any legal consequences for their role in January 6.
They know that what is protected by free speech, and they walk
right up to that line. But they're always careful not to
cross it.
Adam Curry: I'm not sure what he means with that bit at all. But
his job here with his book, and there's a couple books out, is
to connect the Trump backing from Christian nationalists to
January 6. And all of this is of course, a setup to a wonderful
documentary called God and country, which is produced by
none other than Rob Reiner, because he is the final hope for
the Democrats, the final hope to get rid of Trump by telling
everybody the truth, we
Unknown: have a new project that I also want to make sure people
know about your documentary, God and country, which looks at this
issue of Christian nationalism, we have a little bit of it.
Let's take a look. Christian
John C Dvorak: nationalism uses Christianity as a means to an
end. In being some form of authoritarianism. Being a
Christian is
Unknown: about the values of inclusion, Christian
nationalism, it's certainly not based on the values of the
gospel. God
wants America to be saved.
They're told over and over and over again, that you're in
danger. You
Adam Curry: need to fight if you don't want to lose your country,
we are in a civil war. And now, what's being said here is the is
true, absolutely. The Christians are always talking about we
don't want to lose our country and the demons and all that, but
there's overlaying January 6 footage, as only Rob Reiner
could do,
Unknown: we'll show you in the documentary. And by the way,
there are very conservative Christian evangelicals, pastors,
very respected people in the in the Christian community that are
frightened of this Christian nationalist movement, because
it's not They not only frightened about it hurting
democracy, but Christianity itself. And we show in the film
that this movement was the foundation for January 6, moving
elements that made January 6, and the insurrection happened.
And now we have a speaker of the House who is an avowed Christian
nationalists even says that the the teachings of the Bible and
what he believes that whenever he believes God's will is
overtakes the Constitution and that all decisions have to be
made based on his thinking. So, we have this now in inculcated
in our government. And Donald Trump is more than happy to be
there mouth. And we see this, this connection, and it's
brought out in the film. And it's very scary because it's
very possibility. We talked about it in the film scared that
we could slip into an autocracy very easily. You hear this all
the time and
John C Dvorak: say, what any minute,
Unknown: any minute on many other shows that the fight right
now is between whether or not we preserve our democracy, or we
slip into a theocratic autocracy. This movement wants,
they believe that this is a white Christian nation. That's
what it should be. And that's what we bring out in the film.
And they're not only poisoning the democracy, they're also
poisoning Christianity.
John C Dvorak: Oh, shoot. Oh, yes. Here's the real irony. And
the big disappointment here. Rob Reiner is a direct I used to be
a really good director for fictional product. He wasn't
he's not a documentarian. The Democrats lost their guy,
Michael Moore, when he did his documentary on the scam of
climate change. And they just he was just eliminated from the
picture. Where's Michael Moore this this go around when he's
usually does the kind of documentaries that now they have
to pass it off to Rob Reiner. Yeah, who's not a documentarian.
It doesn't know what he's doing? Well,
Adam Curry: he produced it. A guy named Dan Pat land is the
director. I'm not familiar with him. And I have a clip of them
both in a minute. But I just wanted to give a little, a
little palate refresher here with joy Reed
Unknown: Johnson is so far out there that even other
Republicans are pushing back on the God talk. But this is why we
need to be very concerned. Mike Johnson has the conviction, the
motivation, and now the opportunity to steal the next
election for Donald Trump. He is a far right wing evangelical
Christian who suggested his election his house speaker was
ordained literally by God even billing himself as a modern day,
Moses.
Adam Curry: I don't I don't remember that.
John C Dvorak: I don't remember that either. But does that is
that different than every black football player in the world
thanking God and Jesus after the game when they win? Oh, how
about
Adam Curry: how about the Grammys? Thank you for God gave
me the Liberty grant.
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, you can only do that so far. Taylor
Swift is gonna get mad. But oh,
Adam Curry: here comes your kicker. So
Unknown: if God tells him to steal a few elections to make
Trump president what you're gonna do? And then what happens
if God tells him to make Trump president for life? Oh,
Adam Curry: yeah. Okay.
John C Dvorak: All right. This is she she's gonna burn in hell.
Let's face it. Okay, so
Adam Curry: I only have three more clips, and then I'll stop.
I could play 20 more because I find it fascinating to
John C Dvorak: do a whole show. We do a special once you do a
special.
Adam Curry: A special. Yeah. Do you remember? Okay, maybe I'll
do a special what what should I call it? Oh, by the way. We were
looking for like a genocide Joe name for Hillary. We got
Holocaust, Hillary. It writes itself. I can't believe that we
didn't come up with it. So we did now Do you remember Laura
Flanders?
John C Dvorak: Course she still has a show? Did you know that?
Adam Curry: I didn't. I didn't know she had a TV podcast a show
John C Dvorak: a podcast show does she has a she does show
that goes over the air.
Adam Curry: So this was a podcast. Okay, well, I
John C Dvorak: think her podcast is the same show. Well,
Adam Curry: Laura Flanders had Rob Reiner. And all
John C Dvorak: those two together just like and Dan price
it and it
Adam Curry: really is surprised because there were some
revelations in here. So Briner produce the movie, the movie, I
say with the big name the documentary, Dan Petland is the
director. Well,
Unknown: then this top class of ambassadors.
Adam Curry: So what he's doing here, he's going to, he has a
chart and he says, Hold
John C Dvorak: on a second. How come he's going around that what
producer to you know, and we have a few that work on our
show. Go around to promote, usually the director or the main
character is usually it's not the producer nests. And this is
producer director that goes around promoting the movie
unless they did it. But
Adam Curry: because they're desperate, there's nothing left
to do. But now just go straight to religion, which is one of the
most unAmerican things I could think of, to be honest, to go
after religion and then you know, couch it in all it's just
some fringe group and they're all behind Trump. In the Dan,
Dan guy, he's dumb because he says things that are stupid. So
he, he has this chart that she puts up on the screen, and he
shows that 1/3 of America is is really Christian, they're, you
know, they're just Christian. They they believe in God and
Jesus Christ. And then there's another third in the middle. And
they might be, maybe we can sway them. But he has to admit that
two thirds of America is just kind of believes in Jesus Christ
and God. But so and he says, But you know, this movie, this movie
that he made, is to convince that 1/3 in the middle to flip,
I guess, away from Jesus,
Unknown: well, then this top class wrestlers, those are
probably most of the people we're talking about when we say
Christian nationalists, this may be as much as 20% of the
population. Okay, that's a huge, huge number 20%, who have deeply
held beliefs that the United States is adopting again,
John C Dvorak: I'm listening to this, and I can't tell if it's
Rob Reiner speaking in a lower register, or is it Laura
speaking, I can't tell,
Adam Curry: well, it's Petland. It's the damn guy. Oh,
Unknown: it's the other guy. He sounds like a combination of the
2%, who have deeply held beliefs that the United States is and
should be officially a Christian nation and are looking to write
that into law. That's the population that we have to be
worried about. But what makes it so difficult to address is that
when you consider the next tear, people you'd call accommodators,
of Christian nationalism, or even resistors. Now you're
talking about, really, almost two thirds to three quarters of
the country have at least some bit of Christian nationalist
belief. And some of that is fine. Of course, this is
basically a Christian nation, there's a background of
Christianity and throughout the, you know, the history of this
republic, sort of benign ways that it starts, which is just
recognizing that there's a lot of Christian people here quickly
becomes a slippery slope, with this casual language of WoW, but
the United States is basically a Christian nation. Well, what
does that mean? What does that mean? And I think what we have
to do is we have to draw that bright line, again, between the
separation of church and state, which is a foundational American
principle, which I cannot believe in the year 2024 is
becoming fuzzy to people.
Adam Curry: So what they're trying to say is that the
separation of church and state, which is which they all point to
the First Amendment, where the First Amendment says, the
government shall make no religion, official religion
cannot block a religion, of course, did matter, because the
church is closed anyway, when they were told, Oh, scary COVID.
But what they're trying to do is turn it around a little bit and
say, Hey, these Christians, they can't be making laws based on
what they believe. And there is something called the lemon test,
I believe, which could be used to stop lawmakers. But in
general, if you're a Marxist or socialist, you make and we have,
we have lots of socialist based laws and Marxist based laws. But
they're very afraid that the crazy Christian nationalists are
going to take hold, and they're going to make all the laws based
upon what God told them.
Unknown: Well, one of the things I learned that I didn't know
before of Robert from the film was just how recent it is that
the word God appears on all coins and the Pledge of
Allegiance. Well,
I was in school, actually, in 1954, when they added under God
in the Pledge of Allegiance. Yes. And you know
Adam Curry: why they did that? Was this true? In 1954,
President Eisenhower encouraged Congress to add the words under
God, because of commies like you. They were afraid of
communists taken over our country and using our Pledge of
Allegiance as a communist mantra. So the added, God
Unknown: used to be one nation, indivisible, then it became one
nation under God, indivisible. And I remember when that
happened, because we gave that pledge every morning and in
school. So it you know, it really started happening around
then. And we've seen it grow over time, but the question you
asked, which is how do you undo it? And the way in which you
undo it is do it not, you know, you're never gonna get that hard
core group of people that just believe it, and you can't
convince them. It's those others those other layers that Dan
talked about, if you can get to those people to understand make
them understand that this is destroying their their faith in
a way that's it's undermining their faith. That's the way in
which I think you can undo it and then because
Adam Curry: these crazy Christian nationalists are
really hurting Jesus,
Unknown: there's all kinds of you know, pie in the sky kind of
things like getting rid of the Electoral College and things
like that, which would actually make it more democratic majority
will. We are we
enlightened, really majority get rid of it high in the sky, but
Adam Curry: if we really want to get rid of it rule
Unknown: in the country, there are a lot of safeguards for the
minority to make sure that they're not, you know, run rough
John yes over, you know, my Bible electoral college,
Adam Curry: he wants to get rid of it. It's pie in the sky. It's
like a dream is what he means by that. It's a dream to get rid of
that. We'll work on that already.
Unknown: But when when that minority gets too much power,
then they're running roughshod over the vast majority. That's
what you have to wrestle with. And that's our it's, it's
interesting to understand how it works.
Adam Curry: Alright, so final clip, Rob Reiner. I thought he
was Jewish. He was born Jewish into a Jewish family.
John C Dvorak: But we have an atheist. Oh, no,
Adam Curry: we have a lot to learn about. Ron Reiner's
religious beliefs
John C Dvorak: become a Buddhist
Unknown: Oh, from you've got on a journey yourself. You've
talked about in the context of this film. Even
though I am Jewish, I was not raised that way. But when in a
time in my life, when I was going through the worst period
of soul searching, I read everything I read Buddhism, and
you know, books about Christianity and Hinduism, I
read everything. And what I came around thinking is the, if you
look at the core teachings of Jesus, that makes the most sense
and made the most sense to me, the idea of, you know, do unto
others, it's, and there's a reason why it's called the
golden rule. Because if you can live by that, everything else
falls into place. You don't need the 10 commandments, you don't
need a lot if you just live by that rule. And then I look at
the film, and I look at what's happened in this country. And it
seems like we've come so far from those teachings.
Adam Curry: Okay, so just to review, he writes, he read some
books about Christianity, he didn't read the Bible, we read
some books about him. And he says, you know, the teachings of
Jesus Do unto others, which I think he's referring to the
sermon on the mount the Beatitudes, which are a little
bit more than that, but if you are a masochist, like he is, do
unto others. I think he loves that. Yeah, let me let me be
mean and hateful and spiteful, and extremely hateful this guy,
and he wants that to be done to him, then that's his golden
rule. That's his entire takeaway from Hinduism, Buddhism, some
books about Christianity, and being born a Jew, is please be
as mean to me as I am to you. This guy, this guy is sinful.
That's what he is. So you
John C Dvorak: can look for us a long way. You got a shaggy dog
story with that? Well,
Adam Curry: I mean, I have so it's like PBS. Everyone was
rolling it out. It was insane. And this is what I think is
gonna happen. These people are so stupid. They're actually
going to create revival in America.
John C Dvorak: That's overdue. It's a cycle. Yeah. It is.
overdue. Studying this one was, wasn't
Adam Curry: a glace, wasn't it? Late 60s, late 60s, early 70s.
We had a war going on. But everybody liked
John C Dvorak: not unlike in the 1800s. It was a real revival.
Adam Curry: 1800s tell me I don't remember some tremendous,
John C Dvorak: like a decade of revivalism that was just out of
control. We have seen nothing like that in our lifetimes.
Adam Curry: Do you think it's a cycle and we're overdue out
these shorts on? I think it's a cycle and we're overdue. It's
the Jesus oppas coming?
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't know. If the CIA gets its act
together, maybe. But so I'm not seeing.
Adam Curry: I think they are so desperate. This is the last
thing they can do. Let's connect it to Trump. Let's connect it to
January 6. Let's bring in Rob Reiner. I mean, that says
desperation right there. And I think you're right. We're
overdue. It's a backfire. We're going to have a revival and I
look forward to it.
John C Dvorak: I look at this slightly different than you do.
Okay. I think this is just laying the groundwork for
excuses how Trump lost the election to Biden, when they
when they go through the same process of rigging the election,
like they did last time. It was done with mail in ballots, which
is gonna be much more difficult to pull off this time. And
you're gonna sit and when it happens, you say, Well, you
know, Trump says he got stolen. But in fact, and then it goes
through the same thing you just did. And these are the reasons
he lost.
Adam Curry: Oh, you so yours. Wait a minute, how does that
work with our thesis that the Democrats want Trump to win?
John C Dvorak: I think in fact, I, well, it goes this, the two
things can be true at the same time. I think the smart
Democrats do want Trump to win. And because they know that
things are going to be so screwed up. They may be out of
office for a long time if Biden stays in for another four years,
and that's the smart money. But Biden's people that got him in
the first time, which seems to be like a locomotive out of
control, which is basically the Obama administration. No You
know they're they don't think that way
Adam Curry: well I mean I I don't see how it just can't
happen now it's like I mean we're there yet unless there's
unless they cheat better than the Republicans the Republicans
will be ready though.
John C Dvorak: Now the Republicans should be able to
cheat Yeah, it should hold their own doing it. I don't I've never
thought the Republicans were as good at it as the Democrats just
for example, Washington State all mail in ballots all Republic
all Democrats and really bad Democrats. Lousy ones like
insolently California. Absentee ballots are way to go most
people do that. And then there's also other notorious rigging
mechanisms in the
Adam Curry: cracy man it's democracy democracy I would love
to switch gears to this fake Moon Landing if and I see you
have a three by three so I'd be excited to do that if your game
John C Dvorak: yeah, I want to do this yeah, let's do the moon
landing. I got a three by three here that I want to start it
well, you played the jingle and
Adam Curry: three by three Hello, everybody. By JC day Yes,
we got a bearing story from ABC
over 50 years to get back to the moon, everybody and boy was it a
doozy? Are you waiting for the video standby John's got a three
by three to see how the Big Three news networks news shows
covered it.
John C Dvorak: We'll start with the top network for people who
watch news on TV ABC. It's
Unknown: a mission with major implications the first American
spacecraft to land on the moon in more than 50 years.
Separation confirmed the lunar lander Odysseus nicknamed od
built by Houston base intuitive machines blasting off a week ago
on a SpaceX Falcon nine rocket traveling a quarter of a million
miles to the moon od carrying instruments that will gather
information about the lunar surface ahead of NASA's Artemis
mission to the moon in 2026. With humans on bull Americans
first landed on the moon on Apollo 11. In 1969, we will be
here
from now on
or what will be truly a historic time for man
the last time back in 1972 On Apollo 17. Now OTS mission sets
into motion a new beginning and exploring the moon and the
universe. That self pool The Dark Side of the Moon has water
and ice which is critical if we want to use the moon as a home
base to one day explore Mars and beyond the
moon has 1/6 the gravity of earth and no atmosphere. So it's
a much easier place to launch deeper into the solar system. It
really is the launching pad into human exploration out into deep
space.
And David we have just received confirmation od has made it to
the lunar surface at that South Pole that critical South Pole
where there is water and ice. So od has officially landed on the
moon
Adam Curry: by MIT. I thought that it was going to find out if
there was water and yes and
John C Dvorak: I'm thinking and how do they know there's water
and ice if it's winter to see if there's water and ice because
they
Adam Curry: had a camera for the landing. Oh, I'm sorry, they
didn't. It's so crazy. It's so crazy when you see the old
footage almost as old as I am. of you know driving the dune
buggy playing golf about bounced around golf but we can't seem to
have an actual video of the landing of this thing which
looks like something that Adam and John could have put together
in our garage with some tin foil and some broom handles well was
John C Dvorak: put together in Texas So my understanding is
that it actually did come down and it's kind of fell over. So
now it's on its side and it doesn't have any mechanisms to
upright itself. It's not like you know one of those like a
It's not like a like a cheap toy he used to be able to buy at
Toys R Us at whatever the kid did. It would slip itself back
to normal. Like they can't even come up with that that
technology is old is with toys to have it flips over his back
back standing up
Adam Curry: basically sand in the bottom of the big. The big
clown you could hit and it was read write itself. Nice. How
about training wheels?
John C Dvorak: Let's go with Tom Costello and NBC.
Unknown: Leave it to a 14 foot robot named Odysseus to stick
the first US Moon Landing since Apollo stick the landing.
Adam Curry: Are you kidding me? Stick the landing. I mean that's
that's a term with a plane. I can't believe these people are
doing what we
Unknown: can confirm. Without a doubt because our equipment is
On the surface of a man
Houston based intuitive machines now
Adam Curry: does not sticking the landing at all we
John C Dvorak: can confirm it's on the moon if it crashed landed
in blue until the million pieces you could say the same thing.
Unknown: Apollo, we can confirm. Without a doubt
Adam Curry: right there without a doubt that to me is the lie.
Without a doubt. He's got doubt without
Unknown: a doubt because our equipment is on the surface of
him in Houston
based intuitive machines now the first private company to
successfully land on the moon Houston
Odysseus has found his new home.
But now troubleshooting a communications issue and with
one lunar lander this yes launched on a SpaceX rocket just
seven days ago sending back spectacular photos of earth as
it rocketed towards the lunar South Pole on board six
Adam Curry: Nova spectacular pictures of Earth all Did you
see the one picture I've seen from this thing? Wasn't even
earth it was like a round metal ball was somehow some snow on
it. I mean, did you see this picture? No, it's very it's
very, very weird the
Unknown: back spectacular photos of earth as it rocketed towards
the lunar South Pole. On board six NASA experiments. The ice
water on the pole makes up NASA's target zone when
astronauts return in just a few years. Now they're
Adam Curry: also saying ice water. They're just saying as if
it's that I'm confused. The top two networks so far have said
that there is water on the moon. Even though this fallen, this
tipped over thing is supposed to find out if there's water on the
moon. This is good.
Unknown: This is the south pole of the moon. That's correct. In
a NASA simulator, we saw the hostile conditions they'll have
to navigate the sun hanging very low on the horizon. Those
shadows are so long to cut costs, NASA has hired 14 private
companies to run advanced experiments on the moon, though
many could fail. It's really
really difficult to land on the moon, air or slow you down. So
you can't use parachutes, the
Odysseus lander will only have 12 to 13 days before its solar
power runs out. But tonight, just getting there is mission
accomplished. You know,
Adam Curry: what I love about this is that everyone's coming
to my side of the argument never landed there. It's so obvious
now. I mean, people who are all in on they love mosques that
love space travel. They're looking at this and going. Yeah,
it can't be that we have this is it's really, really hard.
There's, you know, it's tough to land on the moon. But how did we
do it? 50 years ago? Yeah, that wasn't real. That was you know,
those kinds of the Russians. It's amazing. It's,
John C Dvorak: I still think that the image of comparing this
this little piece of crap and it fell over, compared to the
driving around in a dune buggy, playing golf, playing golf. Golf
is like a kind of a contrast. But you never know it's
possible. That's when Wernher von Braun was alive. Yeah. So
let's go to the CIA's best outlet and see what they have to
say.
Unknown: Tonight, the Odyssey of Odysseus has ended on the moon,
the first American made spacecraft kicking up lunar dust
in more than a half century, as
our equipment is on the surface of the moon.
Mission Control of intuitive machines in Houston
Adam Curry: also, this this mission control was dorky, like
a bunch of nerds in a round room. I mean, it didn't have a
cool look and have a mission controller guy, you know,
standing there like chewing on a cigar. We're sitting, we're
sticking the landing boys now. None of that. They know like,
oh, yeah, we did it. Yeah, what's the first
Unknown: commercial Moon Landing ever? The final descent from 18
miles above the lunar surface, a continuous engine burn for 10
minutes by touchdown. Odysseus had slowed to two miles per
hour. This is the assembly room. Intuitive co founder Steve
ultimus showed us the historic moon lander up close last year
in Houston. By the
Adam Curry: way that's incorrect. The two miles per
hour but I have a clip to prove that after the three by three,
his
Unknown: company envisions a $100 billion lunar market.
We're delivering scientific payloads engineering
demonstration payloads but not the humans themselves.
And you believe the moon is the next economic frontier. The
moon is certainly that next step for space exploration. Odysseus
landed near the lunar South Pole carrying less than 300 pounds of
cargo, including six instruments for NASA and intuitive customer.
The space agency hopes to have astronauts moonwalking bear by
the end of the decade walk some critters, they're never seen
light so cold, they may contain ice. And water is critical to
long term space exploration.
NASA plans to basically hire these companies to send payloads
to the moon, like like you'd call an Uber or Lyft. But these
companies have to make it work first. And that's what we're
seeing today.
Not since the end of the Apollo era has an American lander park
itself on the surface of the moon. This mission will last
roughly a week until lunar night freezes the solar batteries. Oh,
Adam Curry: and so they want the thing is just dead in a week.
Oh, man so here is this is so stupid
John C Dvorak: maybe dead now for all we know. Yeah. Well,
listen, by the way that report from CBS did not did the right
thing about the water.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but they lied about the
Unknown: speed we think we came down with like I said about six
miles an hour this way. And about two miles an hour this way
and caught a foot in the surface and and the lander has tipped
like we
Adam Curry: think he doesn't even know they don't have to
help telemetry on this thing. That the simplest, the sieve the
absolute simplest gadget in an airplane can tell you if you're
flying on your side or upside down. But we think we think we
are foot caught on you know, maybe it was like a rock or
something and that we tipped over
Unknown: the surface and and the lander has tipped like this. And
we believe this is the surface the orientation of the lander on
the moon doesn't
Adam Curry: even know the actual orientation, which I think is to
spirit.
Unknown: And nearly 24 hours later Scientists say the lander
is still stable and they do have communication with it. The sun
is charging all the batteries on board. Wait
Adam Curry: a minute, is the Dark Side of the Moon?
John C Dvorak: No, they they've mentioned that that's at the
point where the sun is just glimpsing over the horizon. Oh,
Adam Curry: like a good little use. I believe it right away I
believe all of this urging
Unknown: all of the batteries on board. Now keep in mind they
have not seen any images from the lander at this point and are
relying simply on data and code to really understand what is
happening with the lander on the moon. We did talk about pictures
from the surface. The scientists say we could possibly see some
images later this weekend. But at this time, scientists are not
commenting on whether or not any of the payloads on board could
be in jeopardy if this lander is in fact on its side.
Adam Curry: They don't even know if it's on his side. I have one
more report. This will make it a three by three plus one. This is
from Andersen 360 Kristin tell us what's really going on with
this moon landing.
Unknown: The first time a private company has ever done
this. The first time an American made spacecraft has done this
since 1972. And Anderson it's the first time that any
spacecraft has touched down on the south pole of the moon a
critical spot. They think that's where ice is water. It's where
NASA wants to build a lunar base for Artemis astronauts, the
first astronauts to return to the moon since the Apollo
program, and it's where China wants to build a base as well.
Dr. Anderson's real nail biting moments administrator described
it as an Apollo 13 moment with no humans on board, of course,
because of some of the technical issues they had to troubleshoot.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what happened? I mean, up until the
last second the difficulties Oh, yeah, yeah,
Unknown: Anderson, It's so wild. I mean, they really fixing on
the fly, they had an issue. You know how radar works Radar
Radar, it sends out a radio signal, which then bounces off
an object, which lets you tell how far away you are from it.
Well, this is LIDAR laser, instead of radio waves, light
waves bouncing off of it. And that's what the spacecraft this
robotic uncrewed spacecraft uses to find a safe landing spot
because the moon has, you know, craters and boulders all over
it. There was a problem with intuitive machines is LIDAR
navigation system. And so it just so happened that NASA had
an experimental LIDAR payload.
Adam Curry: I loved a little laugh in there. So just so
happened. The problem
Unknown: with intuitive machines is LIDAR navigation system. And
so it just so happened that NASA had an experimental LIDAR
payload on the lander as well. They were somehow able to patch
it through to the lunar lander Odysseus and that experimental
experimental NASA navigation system Lidar is what they were
able to use to get this on the surface of the moon so pretty
incredible that they were able to pull it off but now we want
to see the pictures Anderson, right.
Adam Curry: Yeah, we do right in time for the boys get to work.
Can
John C Dvorak: someone explain it was somebody asked? They
won't even bother to ask why they're using LIDAR instead of
radar.
Adam Curry: Because it's LIDAR li EDA our LIDAR.
John C Dvorak: Lidar, is it show title? LIDAR?
Adam Curry: I'm writing it down.
John C Dvorak: Write it down. Write it down.
Adam Curry: LIDAR. I like that a lot. Oh, it's it's also it's
also a bunch.
John C Dvorak: That's just a, let's just call it what it is.
How
Adam Curry: about how about it being a
John C Dvorak: rock fell over and that can't get up. I fallen
and I can't get up. Well, too bad.
Adam Curry: Let's just say none of its true. I'm just I'm not
believing it. And what is this outfit? What is this intuitive
machines? Where's the CEO? look him up. look
John C Dvorak: him up there in a wiki page.
Adam Curry: Wiki page, but how about now how about a page on
them? Intuitive machines. It's an American Express Company
really? Were the investors let me see you the different
company? No, no, no, no, no. And Houston. We open access to the
moon for the progress of
John C Dvorak: humanity. Yeah. Oh, they're American Express
Company.
Adam Curry: They're on NASDAQ. Their public company. L U N. R
is the ticker symbol. Lunar Yes. Founded in 2013. They've had
three NASA lunar missions. I love this years of executive
aerospace experience. 250 years of experience if you kind of all
the old dudes who must be working there.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, of course.
Adam Curry: So was this a SPAC this this smells of a SPAC? I
have no idea. Well, I think we should short it.
John C Dvorak: No one who's ever made money coming in? I don't
think so. Wow.
Adam Curry: Yeah. I thought it's yes. No, it's not American
Express is an American company headquartered in Houston,
founded by Steven ultimus, Cam Ghaffari and Tim crane. Blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah. Now they got a lot of money. They must
have a lot of money that they took it public.
John C Dvorak: That was just so they cash out. That money comes
from the government.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah. Well, how come we're never in these
these. These scams? Because
John C Dvorak: we're not scammers. Oh,
Adam Curry: hello. You're right. You're right. You're right. Walk
Bo 40 partnership and open innovation strategists. We got
to talk to that guy. Hey, walk D how do we get in on this
John C Dvorak: walk? Is that his name? Was it me?
Unknown: Who walks the walk? Dogs lobby.
Adam Curry: It's all these dudes with crew cuts. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Well, fine. I mean, I wish them well. Too bad. It tipped
over. We think we don't we don't actually know. We don't actually
know if it tiptoe but even
John C Dvorak: thought that it might tip over and there'd be
some mechanism to stand it back up. That's what gets me if it
tipped over which I get this a sense that it did. Yeah. They
couldn't stand it back up because they never thought that
it would ever tip over. Hello.
Adam Curry: Listen to this. So they have lunar access services.
One of them is rideshare. Let's see. Yeah, rideshare. Getting
the space should be easy and custom tailored to fit your
needs. Our lunar transfer orbit delivery services can
accommodate up to 1000 kilograms of payload and deliver customers
into a myriad of high energy orbits. We launched payloads for
deployment after launch vehicle separation, and from the
steadfast platform of our landers in lunar orbit. Your
results may vary due to road and weather conditions. So they're
going to be a rideshare companies the Uber of space, I
get it.
John C Dvorak: Okay, yeah, there's a moneymaker. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Somehow, you got to think that this is bullcrap.
John C Dvorak: All right. Let's go to Ukraine. Oh, goody. I
spotted a new term that we have to keep an eye on okay. And this
this play Ukraine anniversary the term is? Well, you'll hear
it in here. I used the initials FSI Ukraine anniversary day,
Unknown: Russia's full scale invasion of Ukraine enters the
whole circle. And on this anniversary of the start of the
war, it's worth stepping back and noting that neither Russia
nor Ukraine has made progress on its goals. Despite hundreds of
1000s of casualties on both sides. Russia has failed to
occupy all of Ukraine and Ukraine has failed to retake all
of the land occupied by Russian forces.
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Never Russia never said there would
going to occupy the whole country. Tell
John C Dvorak: me about it. So let's play the I want to play
these two FSI clips. These are the two Ed This is Nick
Schifrin. The first one which is I think you've just heard that
Yep. I played FSI but as Ukrainian Oh, hold
Adam Curry: on, is that something different? Oh, yeah,
this
John C Dvorak: this is from NPR. Okay,
Adam Curry: thank you got it. Before
Unknown: the full scale invasion, the 28 year old who
asked us to withhold his last name was a snowboard instructor
on a tour guide. Oh,
Adam Curry: full scale invasion. Oh, so this is the new this is
the new new is like is
John C Dvorak: the new new. Hey, listen, Putin and FSI on PBS
just to get it again.
Adam Curry: Yes. Okay. Russia's
Unknown: full scale invasion of Ukraine enters its third year.
Adam Curry: Good catch. Good catch. So
John C Dvorak: now this isn't just you. I've heard about five
of these. And they've decided to drop it. Now. Do you remember
when this started three years ago?
Adam Curry: I certainly do. There was no full
John C Dvorak: scale invasion or a bunch of under fueled tanks
that kind of came into the country. It stalled. And they
were just, you know, a full scale invasion by the Russian
army wouldn't be what we were seeing in Ukraine and the
Russians themselves just call it a military action, a police
action. They didn't want to work.
Adam Curry: militaries have special military operation. It's
all about the region. Yeah. So
John C Dvorak: that is not a full scale invasion. Yet PBS and
NPR among others, are now using this term, full scale invasion.
Adam Curry: I feel ripped off by these these great media
organizations.
John C Dvorak: So you heard part one of the NPR full scale
invasion that's played Part Two Ukranian grain
Unknown: runs low on ammunition and weapons with resupplies from
the United States and other allies more in doubt than ever.
Russia is going on the offensive in Ukraine's east. Joining us to
discuss this as NPRs key correspondent Joanna kisses.
Hey, Joanna. Hey, Scott. So tell us how Ukrainians are observing
this anniversary today.
So Scott, it's a somber day Ukrainians are very proud that
their country is still defending itself against a much larger
enemy with a much larger arsenal. But there is just a
sense of exhaustion and loss. And you could really sense that
at a rally in central key today where many were demonstrating to
highlight the cases of 1000s of Ukrainian prisoners of war.
Here's Anton cut offs of he's a 49 year old soldier who was in a
cave on a short break from the frontlines to see his elderly
Mom, I'm
not even sure to who this is more difficult to the civilians
or to the soldiers. Like my mom, for example, she's 80 years old,
but we are stronger than Russians. We love freedom too
much. We love it more than they love war. So we will win.
Adam Curry: We love freedom more than they love war. Yeah, oh,
there's a slogan.
John C Dvorak: I love that one cannot so this this was no good
this report. So we have to go back to PBS. And let's get to
Victoria Nuland so he really get to beat us up at the highest
level possible. She
Adam Curry: She was everywhere she was she was with what's her
face with Christian aman, aman poor. She was she was blanketing
and it's it's great to have her back on the airwaves. Because
once again, it reminds us what's evil and sin does to your
overall look. She is
Unknown: he looks terrible. The Biden administration today
unveiled a new set of sanctions against Russia to punish it
further for the full scale invasion of Ukraine that began
two years ago tomorrow.
The sanctions are also meant to target Russia for the death of
anti corruption activist and politician Alexei Navalny. He
died in an Arctic prison one week ago from a cause still
unknown. Earlier today I spoke with the US Undersecretary of
State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland, about the state
of the war two years on Victoria Nuland Welcome back to the News
Hour. As the world prepares to mark the second anniversary of
Putin's Ukraine invasion, Ukraine's counter offensive has
stalled. Ukraine lost a brutal month long battle for up
Deepika. Additional funding, as you well know, is stuck in the
GOP led house. And Russia is showing no signs of quitting.
What is the outlook for Ukraine right now?
Well, Jeff, you're not wrong, that these are tough days for
Ukraine. And as you said, they've had to come out of FDA
of coal. When I was out there a couple of weeks ago, there were
soldiers on the front line, with only 20 bullets a day to defend
themselves. And this is why the administration is pushing so
hard for this additional $60 billion to support Ukraine.
Adam Curry: Yeah, so two things. This 2020 shells a day is a meme
she's repeated everywhere and what bull
John C Dvorak: crap is that I'm sitting in a foxhole the
shooting at me. I got a bunch of bucket full of bullets I shoot
to 20 off Am I even you got to stop. This is your limit.
Adam Curry: That you're kidding me know that because because of
Trump because Trump told the GOP, not to pass the money, and
therefore, these poor Ukrainians are sitting in their trenches,
because it's just like World War One. It's a war of attrition.
And they only have 20 shells a day. Now, when she says shells
is a little unclear if they have that's 20 shells like these big
the big ones is shooting out of the cannons. Or if that's, you
know,
John C Dvorak: when he bullets.
Adam Curry: Let me listen to it. And that's it. That is important
battle
Unknown: for up deep cook in the GOP. And I didn't like that she
said,
Adam Curry: You're not wrong girl are
Unknown: not wrong, that these are tough days for Ukraine. And
as you said, they've had to come out of FDA of ko when I was out
there a couple of weeks ago, there were soldiers on the front
line with only 20 bullets. Okay,
Adam Curry: she says bullets in a report I have she said shell.
So it's bullets, maybe it's shells. But she said bullets or
bullets as you said
John C Dvorak: bullets. Going in a foxhole with a bucket full of
bullets and you can only shoot 20 of them if they come at ya
too bad. Don't use any more of those bullets because you only
had 20 You got a bayonet,
Adam Curry: that's what the bayonet is for.
John C Dvorak: Okay, I'm onward with with her with her. With her
crap
Unknown: with this money, we actually think that they can
make some serious gains in 2024, particularly by enhancing some
of the asymmetric techniques that they have been using
asymmetric
Adam Curry: technique, rocks. What is an asymmetric technique
in warfare? Well,
John C Dvorak: they did. What they showed is a fighter jets
little bitty drones would like it was like a hand gun.
Adam Curry: taped to the front. Yeah, that's the that's the
Canadians a goon or the UK a million drones, a million tiny
drones,
John C Dvorak: these drones and they got low hand gun, you can
see a little gun sitting down there. And good flies around and
shoots just randomly every time it shoots. It backs up about
five feet because of the Yeah, this is asymmetric. Asymmetric.
Got
Unknown: it. But we need to support them, just as the
Europeans have just given them an additional $54 billion.
Well, so far, House Speaker Mike Johnson has a need for us to
bring up a Senate passed package or at least for a quick vote. Is
there a way for the administration to get that much
needed aid to Ukraine absent action from Congress? Jeff,
I would just start by reminding that this bill passed
overwhelmingly in the Senate 70 senators supported it. And they
supported it because they understand that as much as this
is about Ukraine's ability to survive as a democratic state,
it is also about the larger principles of a free and open
international order that benefits the United States. And
that if we don't stand with Ukraine is Putin wins here, then
dictators and tyrants all over the world will take note, and
we'll get hungry with their own territorial aspirations. So we
need to pass this money and the American people broadly
understand that. So we are hopeful that they will tell
their members when they're home during this recess, how much
they support this, this money and we already confident.
Adam Curry: Okay, so a couple things. One, if we support the
money, too, they didn't go home on their recess, they all went
to Ukraine. Everybody was in Ukraine, Queen Ursula was in
Ukraine, Chuck Schumer is in Ukraine, everyone is hanging out
Ukraine, bowing to Zelinsky. And here's the question, if it's so
known that they only have 20 bullets a day, why hasn't Putin
gone full roughshod and just ran right over everybody? If they if
they're out of ammo? That it's it's the end of the exercise
here. If it really was a FSI, don't you think that it would
have ended by now or is Putin's mission he's in me, and we're
being told different than we're being told.
John C Dvorak: The other thing is throughout this interview,
and this is, how many clips are there? Five times three? We're
at three now. We're on number three. Throughout this
interview, and all the other newless Have you heard not one
reporter even brought up or mentioned negotiations to end
this idiotic war that's costing billions and billions and 10s of
billions of dollars? Well, would
Adam Curry: you want to be out of a job?
Unknown: Here we go. President Biden today announced more than
500 sanctions on Russia. This is the largest tranche since the
conflict started. Is this a tacit admission that the
previous sanctions haven't worked? What with Russia's
military industrial complex up and running and
Adam Curry: I love I hear this more often now, too. There's a
military industrial complex, but it's only Russia. We don't have
one
Unknown: seemingly drawing on limitless supplies and support
from its authoritarian allies.
Well, let me start with your premise, Jeff that previous
sanctions haven't worked, Russia has become a pariah state around
the world thrown out of the international banking system.
And now so desperate for weapons that it has to go to countries
like Iran and North Korea, Korea to get them, but those Russians
are wily, and they have over the last
Adam Curry: while they're wildly love that one Russian those
Russians are wildly they're wildly E Coyote
Unknown: to get them. But those Russians are wildly and they
have over the last six months found ways to evade sanctions at
but we've also got smarter about how to hurt them then that's why
this package is so massive it looks at punishing sanctions
evaders, it looks at closing down further Russia's access to
credit and finance. It also punishes for the death of the
leading opposition figure Nirvani at the hands of Putin in
his present guards and it sanctions of those involved in
the abduction of Ukrainian children into Russia. So it is a
massive package. And partly it's because we've got to staunch
this evasion.
Adam Curry: Can I just interject your your clip sequence here
with one
John C Dvorak: no you can't right now because you have to
back it up and listen to what she said at the very end.
Adam Curry: I heard what about the children? I heard about the
children? No, no, no.
John C Dvorak: There's this phrase she uses that.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Oh, can I do only to play the last few
seconds of that clip? Yeah.
Unknown: Those involved in the abduction of Ukrainian children
into Russia so it is a massive package and partly it's because
we've got to staunch this evasion. staunch
Adam Curry: this evasion. Start
John C Dvorak: start a staunch this invasion
Adam Curry: I think she said evasion. She didn't say
injection didn't
John C Dvorak: say evasive but the word I'm looking for PLAY
CLIP floor for because it's only this these this term it
Unknown: is a massive package. And partly it's because we've
got to staunch this evasion. And because we have far more targets
now as we understand better how to staunch the Russian
industrial complex, staunch look
John C Dvorak: it up scope right. staunch and tell me what
the hell she's talking about
Adam Curry: firm and dependable, especially in loyalty stopped
the flow of a liquid to staunch to stop the flow. That's what
I'm getting right off the hand right of hands. Stop staunch to
check or stop the flowing of stop. We're checking its course
to make so stop to stop the flow to staunch to staunch to stop
the flow. Doesn't sound like defeat.
John C Dvorak: And I just found it peculiar.
Adam Curry: No, it's ridiculous. Can I play your clip? Yeah, just
about this sanctions. The great sanctions that we've placed on
Russia,
Unknown: oil tankers like these are still bringing Russian oil
into the EU, and it earned the Kremlin 1.1 billion euros last
year. According to a new report by the NGO Global Witness, a
legal loophole is allowing Russia to sell its oil in the
EU. Despite the sanctions against imports,
countries which haven't imposed sanctions on Russian oil are
able to import millions of barrels of Russian crude oil.
They refined them in those countries and at the point that
they become a refined product like fuel or diesel is no longer
considered Russian. And so this fuel is freely imported into the
European Union. They
followed oil tanker movements and delved into publicly
available Russian tax revenue information in their research.
The oil is mainly coming through India and Turkey, but also
Bulgaria, which is actually inside the EU. When the EU
brought in the sanctions on refined petroleum products in
February 2023. They did so with limited exceptions. One of those
exceptions being to allow Bulgaria to continue to import
refined oil in order to prevent a major economic hit to the EU's
poorest nation. So
Adam Curry: bull crap. Oh crap. They don't really mean it. They
just want money.
John C Dvorak: No, what's interesting is that is the
figure that they used. This oil coming out of Russia syrup,
surreptitiously brought them 1.4 billion. Were trying to ship 60
billion to Ukraine just so they can have more than 10 bullets
Adam Curry: 20 It's 2020
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry,
Adam Curry: what am I think and I hope your Newland clip has the
money shot does it five? Yes. Is the money shot otherwise I got
the money shot. No,
John C Dvorak: I didn't. Mind doesn't have them. I don't know
if it does or not. I know what you're looking for. But once you
play this, then you play your money shot. Okay.
Unknown: And this is up quite worrying is that Russia has been
willing to intensify its economic and security
relationship with China, in fact, becoming increasingly
dependent on China. And that is how it is fueling its war
machine. It's also been willing to put the vast majority of its
own economic stimulus into the war effort. So it is starving
Russia and Russians of investment in education in their
own future all in service of Putin's imperial ambitions. So
he is adjust as well.
As we wrap up our conversation, you said you're confident that
the aid package will ultimately pass Congress. There is this
question, though, of what good would additionally What did
Adam Curry: he just say? He just said on the pass, ultimately,
what do is adjust as
Unknown: well, as we wrap up our conversation, you said you're
confident that she will ultimately pass Congress? There
is this question, though, of what good would additional aid
do especially among those who view this as a war of attrition
and point to the slow progress of Ukraine's counter offensive?
If the US continues to provide Ukraine the same sorts of
weapons? Why wouldn't that lead to a further stalemate,
first of all, this aid is going to allow Ukraine to do four
things, it's going to allow them to continue to fight, it's going
to allow them to build a highly deterrent military of the
future, so that they will increasingly be able to stand on
their own feet in security terms, it's going to help them
recover and get more of their own people home and rebuild
their tax base. So that we have, there's less economic support
that they need from the rest of the world. And it's also going
to help them reform and become a more European democratic
country. With this money on the battlefield. First and foremost,
it will ensure Ukraine can hold the line. But as I said, they're
getting increasingly proficient at asymmetric weapons. And I
expect, as I said, in Kyiv, a couple of weeks ago, when I was
there, that if we can provide this support, Putin is going to
get some very nasty surprises on the battlefield in 2024.
Bullshit.
Adam Curry: Okay. So yes, big bull crap, because when she was
talking to globalist Christiane Amanpour, she had a whole
different story about this money. No one mentioned that.
That's what we needed. She needed bullets. Now we're gonna
give him money so they can bring people back home. So they can,
you know, start their tax base. And now No, no, no, no. She
said, a couple of quiet things out loud in this interview,
what's
Unknown: your response to him and others here telling us? You
know, America talks a good game. But right now we're stalled. And
it needs to remember it is the father, mother of democracy and
freedom around the world. Oh,
yeah. Well, thank you, Christian. That's
the point that President Biden is making as well. And that 70
senators made just last week in passing overwhelmingly, the
administration supplemental request, including 60 billion
for Ukraine. So now the question is in the House of
Representatives, and support for Ukraine across the United States
is still strong. So we hope that representatives will reflect
that in the way they vote. And it's strong, not just because
people understand how brave and resilient Ukraine has been. But
that this is not just about Ukraine. If we don't stop
putting in Ukraine, he will keep going. And autocrats and tyrants
all around the world will take comfort and think that they too
can chunk off a piece of their neighbor.
Adam Curry: So I think she read the secret or something's like
if I just keep saying that people really are all for it,
then it'll happen. And here is the money shot. Do you
Unknown: have any actual belief or reason to believe that
eventually this bill will be paid? And if not, how are you
going to make sure Ukraine gets vital weapons? And
Adam Curry: by the way, I love that that I'm on tour says that
this bill will get paid. What did they send us an invoice is
are we down to that now? Or just just a Venmo? A QR code? What
did they do? Instead of this bill will be passed. She says
this bill should be paid, this bill
Unknown: will be paid? And if not, how are you going to make
sure you can get vital weapons and ammunition? Chris
John, I have strong confidence that when the House comes back
after they've been out in their districts, hearing from the
American people, after they have heard from Ukraine, they have
heard from Europe, which by the way, just passed 54 billion in
additional aid itself over 10 years that we will do what we
have always done which is defend democracy and freedom around the
world. Not just for victims of tyrants like Putin, but in our
own interest in serving a free and open international order,
that's what we need to do. We've done it before. And by the way,
we have to remember that the bulk of this money is going
right back into the US economy to make those weapons, including
good paying jobs in some 40 states across the United States.
And there
Adam Curry: it is, oops. So this, so she's either lying
about helping the Ukrainians rebuild, where their tax base,
etc, or she's lying about going straight into the military
industrial complex, which I believe is what it's doing. And
I think at this point, that's the only thing keeping our
economy afloat that an AI chips Well, AI chips, but and things
are about to get interesting, because the biggest soy boy
politician is it looks like it's definitely happening. Margarita,
former, your buddy, Dutch Prime Minister, who I've met who is a
hunk of soy, he is I mean, he ran HR at Unilever. And then all
of a sudden he was Prime Minister. He's, he's weak, he's
wimpy. He's a total Yes, man. But he talks a big game
Unknown: for over a decade, he's been a mainstay in European
politics. And now Mark routers in pole position to take another
leadership role crucial for the continent. The outgoing Dutch
Prime Minister has received a number of endorsements to lead
the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO. On
Thursday, the White House back to Ruta for the job, as did the
UK Foreign Office, and a spokesperson for German
Chancellor Olaf Schultz. Other messages of support came during
the Munich Security Conference last weekend. And
Adam Curry: of course, we Margaret, we were partially
nostalgic about the past and talking a little bit about the
future. And she will know he's in the running to become NATO
Secretary General and I personally wish him the best of
luck. I'm very excited by him becoming NATO, Secretary General
because he has the perfect Dutch accent for me to make fun of
it's coming up in that endeavor.
Unknown: The next NATO Secretary General will succeed Jens
Stoltenberg in October, they'll have the challenge of sustaining
the alliances support for Ukraine's costly defense against
Russia. And depending on the outcome of the US presidential
election, they may have to work closely with Donald Trump, an
outspoken NATO critic in Munich router said Europe should focus
more on Ukraine than on the presidential front runner. And
be sure to because you also mentioned the rest of us. Stop
moaning and whining and nagging about Trump and we have to work
with whoever is on the dance floor. I
Adam Curry: love this guy. We have to work with you every show
on the dance floor. Stop moaning and whining and griping about
it. And by the way, I My name is Margarita. The last time the
ditch man was here was JB EOBD hopes heifer. And he was really
great too. So no worries, I take care of it. And I'm your HR guy
here at Dance with me. The answer would be Trumpy. This guy
is he'll be fun. He would almost be guys that is
John C Dvorak: great. Because I love that voice.
Adam Curry: I got to play that again. I just love the end
there. That is so good. What
Unknown: Europe should focus more on the presidential front
runner. And
be sure to because you also mentioned the rest of us. Stop
moaning and whining and nagging about Trump and we have to work
with whoever is on the dance floor. Whoever
Adam Curry: is on the dance floor. I dance with him to me.
Come on, man. I dance with you. Let's dance. Let's dance. Want
to do a little conga line. Hey, Trent. Let's do it. I can't
wait. I can't wait. I vote yes. I vote yes. Bring him in. Oh
man. He is such a douche. And they are the outgoing I mean,
the guy got kicked out. Yeah, exactly. This is all that all
these European countries all they're all just waiting to get
the big job in Brussels. That's all they really want. Just want
that job in Brussels. As long as I can get that then I'll be
good. Do
John C Dvorak: you know Queen Ursula has never won an actual
election for any public office in Jura Germany ever
Adam Curry: while she was the minister of defense and got
kicked out that's why she was then appointed. She didn't even
run she's running now.
John C Dvorak: She is so annoying that no one will vote
for her. Yeah, I know but she's fine. You can pick her and put
her in some now she's Queen of the you know the EU you not by
anyone's wanting her.
Adam Curry: Did we play that clip on the lash? I don't think
I had a clip. Hold on a second. Ursula on Yes, here it is. This
is a little clip of her
Unknown: history maker and a trailblazer, personal of
underlying became the first woman president of the European
Commission in 2019.
The trust you placed in me is confidence you placed in Europe.
Her selection came as a surprise to many, not a former prime
minister, like many of her predecessors, but a struggling
defense minister in the German government of Angular Merkel.
Fast forward to 2022. And the Forbes list cause von der Leyen,
the most powerful woman in the world. And again in 2023, I've
already so what got her there, Commission proposed the large
most ambitious climate laws, spearheaded the EU's, successful
COVID vaccine procurement program. Yeah,
Adam Curry: with with text messages we're not allowed to
see. Right, he supported
Unknown: Ukraine and talked tough against China. Those
successes haven't won over all of the members of the European
Parliament, though, and will have a chance to block her
second term. So
Adam Curry: she's running now and, you know, I would not bet
against her being reelected. I would not bet against that.
John C Dvorak: Because they're not actually being elected by a
democratic body. Well,
Adam Curry: hello. No, it's but it's by the EU Starfleet Command
which
John C Dvorak: bags that?
Adam Curry: Yes. Is the Starfleet appointed. Yes,
Starfleet Command for all practical purposes. May I shift
for a second here to something else, just to dance around and
pat myself on the back trying not to break my arm or
Unknown: rude awakening for 10s of 1000s of AT and T customers.
I woke up this morning turned on my phone and no internet checked
my phone. It's like what's going on? I don't even see an SOS.
Now. I can't even use my GPS, my music call my wife Taylor. I'm
going to be
from Chicago to Dallas, Boston to Los Angeles. More than 74,000
users reported widespread problems.
So on a personal level, it was it was definitely confusing and
uncomfortable. But it wasn't the end of the world
late today. 18 t apologized to customers and said service had
been fully restored. Nearly three quarters of adults live in
households without a landline so losing cell service in a
disaster can cripple communications. That was the
case in the Maui wildfires. But today's outage inundated
emergency call centers with people dialing them up to test
their phones. Massachusetts State Police posting that many
911 centers were flooded with calls. And in San Francisco,
please
don't call 911 to verify if your phone works. If you don't have
an emergency stupid The FBI is
in contact with 18 T and the FCC is actively investigating. The
National Security Council says there's no reason to think that
this was a cybersecurity incident. Does this incident
worry you about the future? I
always worry about our dependency on technology. I
think it's also a good wake up call. And just a reminder that
we can't depend 100% all the time on the technology that we
depend on 100
A total last resort experts say you can always go in person to
your local fire or police department.
Adam Curry: So now we know when now we know that it was indeed a
software update. And the biggest complaint was not about loss of
internet or loss of income or No, no, no what everyone was
really mad about. It's I want some credit for this
Unknown: you attend this evening. at&t says it is trying
to make things right after this week's nationwide service
outage, you know in a post to their website tonight, the
provider apologize for letting customers down and promised a $5
credit grid impacted accounts and there are 1000s of the we
are totally will appear on your bill in one to two cycles. at&t
Blaming the hours long outage on Thursday on a technical error
for the current while expanding their network. Now this FCC and
the FBI right now is still
investigating.
Adam Curry: Yeah, so but they copped to it. It was a expanding
their network, whatever that means. So
John C Dvorak: I have a very concerning comment about that
clip. Yes, exactly. Why would somebody explain to me exactly
why do you need phone service for the GPS on your phone to
work? And that was elucidated in that particular clip. So I
couldn't do anything. I couldn't tell my wife where I was a GPS
wasn't working. And I've noticed this when you have one of these
phones and you lose your service for whatever reason. Why does
the GPS go out? It makes no sense because well, because
they're tracking you. Is there a reason? Yes,
Adam Curry: because most phones will give you accurate location
based upon cell phone triangulation tower
triangulation. Yeah, of course. They're tracking you. Hello. Oh,
surprised I thought how would you even know that you don't
take your phone out of your drawer? It's still in your
drawer?
John C Dvorak: I am on month. 14? Yes. Of no phone? Yeah.
Adam Curry: Congratulations. And here's what isn't observation.
What? Because I talked to a couple people, and there were
people very freaked out there was their friend of ours, who
were on their way to Austin and turned around. Like, I don't
want to go into Austin without cell service. But yeah, oh,
yeah.
John C Dvorak: And this is not good. No.
Adam Curry: And these are successful, smart individuals.
The other part is when people saw because you know, you didn't
have a network, and then it's what I think happens with these
phones is that it says SOS only, which means that either happens
when you have no service or you haven't paid your service. I
think I'm not sure. Maybe you can connect to another cell
tower to send a 911 call or to make a 911 call. Not so sure.
But the user experience of SOS only or SOS freak people out
because they couldn't call. They had no idea why SOS was there
other than Oh, my God, we're in an SOS situation. They literally
did not know what that meant. It's, it's a bad UI. I mean,
it's a it's a bad UI choice, in hindsight. But yes, there were
people who just felt crippled, and I just want one of our
church growth. He said, You know, if it wasn't for you, and
your show, I would have been completely I would have melted
into oblivion out of fear. Because the cell service didn't
work and it said SOS and remember that they just everyone
just saw that Obama movie, the Obama produced movie about you
know, the, the whole system melting down and the Tesla's
driving by themselves. In that part kind of worked. Sadly.
John C Dvorak: This could have been this may have not been a
failure at all. It could have been a
Adam Curry: test. I'm not going you are not wrong with that,
John. I'm not wrong. I'm not wrong. Meanwhile, there is an
actual cyber issue across Chicagoland.
Unknown: This cyber attack a pack certain prescription
refills in certain locations, the company attacks as if
they're not taking any shortcuts. To fix this problem.
The outage is expected to last through the remainder of the
day. Still, there is concern if this outage isn't fixed by the
weekend. A cyber attack against one of the country's largest
prescription processors enters a third day change healthcare
provides prescription processing through optim, which supplies
technology services to 1000s of pharmacies. The company was
attacked on Wednesday, making certain prescriptions difficult
to refill electronically. According to The Wall Street
Journal optins parent company UnitedHealth suspects a foreign
government was behind the attack line the company says they've
disconnected change health care systems you
Adam Curry: sure you want just expanding your network? Is a
foreign state actor everybody how come that's not national
news then that's local that's Chicago
John C Dvorak: that should have been covered. And
Adam Curry: I want to I'm very curious about your kid flew
answers clips. But before we do that, I just wanted to follow up
on something we're talking about on the last show about these
bogus charities that are in NGOs that are getting big money for
John C Dvorak: for our exit strategy, but
Adam Curry: it is and it's quite easy to do. And remember just
because a charity has Catholic in their name, doesn't mean does
it mean a thing? No, it could be One Hour Photo doesn't mean
you're gonna get pictures in one hour. What are some other
examples?
John C Dvorak: Of? Well, the classic is one hour cleaners one
hour cleaners
Adam Curry: isn't that's the best one. One hour just to name
this not not advertising. So now Ken Paxton, our Attorney General
here in Texas is going after one of them.
Unknown: Backed by dozens of local elected leaders this week
the El Paso migrant shelter, annunciation house flatly
denying claims from the attorney general that they participated
in activities that he deemed illegal, including human
smuggling. The Catholic nonprofit instead claims Mr.
Paxson is just trying to shut them down because he personally
disagrees that the services they provide to migrants, services
MIDI in the border community say are badly needed. December
when we were having about 3000 asylum seekers coming through.
We couldn't have made it without the Annunciation house we
couldn't have made it without the help of the NGOs. We
will not be intimidated in our work to serve Jesus Christ in
our sisters and brothers fleeing danger and seeking to keep their
families together.
Is there no shame to refer to houses of God houses his
hospitality. stash houses.
The Attorney General also accusing annunciation house of
withholding records but lawyers for the nonprofit refuted that
as well. saying his office only gave them small staff 24 hours,
they're small staff, I should say 24 hours to produce a
massive amount of documents. So I
Adam Curry: love stories like this. This, you know, so they
had some very Catholic Bishop looking guy who showed up. I
mean, he almost sounded like an actor. I really don't know
anything about him. But annunciation house, there are
nonprofit, I went to the normal sources to look at their form
9090 Wouldn't you know, they haven't filed one since 2003.
The only time they ever filed one. That is fraud right there.
You cannot be a nonprofit in the United States and not file your
form 990 Certainly not for 11 years. So I think there's this
is just maybe the tip of the iceberg.
John C Dvorak: Maybe they're under some other name, and it is
filed now now and I can't believe they'd go that long
without filing any paperwork. This
Adam Curry: is a bonanza, John, it's a bonanza. There's so much
fraud and waste and abuse. By the way, there's a new term l
pass l pass is the new term. It's an acronym LPA. S. Dame
Beth heard this and send it to me. Legally processed asylum
seeker l pass to look for it. Be on the lookout for the L pass.
Legally processed asylum seeker.
John C Dvorak: All right, I have a series of clips. Yes. This is
special that was done. It was actually quite good. But the
some of the big questions weren't asked, which I will ask
during the playing of these clips. But the New York Times
did a long look at so called Kid fluent sirs. And these are
children who have accounts that are created by their mothers and
they're just little their kids like eight 910 1112 year olds.
And there's 1000s and 1000s of these accounts and they will
it's actually a disturbing series of clips and you'll be
more disturbed as you listen to each one. Let's start with clip
one. A
Unknown: new investigation looks at the disturbing world of so
called Kid flu answers and the moms who run their accounts. One
in three preteens say being an influencer is a career goal, but
the reality poses serious risks to underage girls. Stephanie
sigh looks at those concerns. Instagram
doesn't allow children younger than 13 to have their own
accounts. So what we're seeing is parents have kid influencers
set up and manage these accounts. posting content of
girls can be lucrative. Instagram makes it possible to
have paid monthly subscribers and kids apparel brands will pay
1000s of dollars for a single post of a kid modeling say their
dance leotards. But what might seem like innocent photos to a
mom may read differently to a man or a pedophile? New York
Times reporter Michael Keller analyzed data from 5000 of these
mom run accounts as part of a New York Times investigation and
joins me now Michael, thank you for being here. I mean, the
headline of your report really sums up the risk, a marketplace
of girl influencers managed by moms and stalked by men. Whoa,
Adam Curry: I already know where this is going. This is a setup.
This is a setup to legislation. There's no doubt about it.
John C Dvorak: Well, there might be but I think they're gonna
have trouble. The course this is also the gouge. Yeah, for
soccer. Berg. Yeah, of course. Yeah. We gotta get he's not
putting up enough money to the Republican who is the
Republicans this time? Republicans? Yeah, the
Republicans for sure. The Democrats, probably less so. But
there's a lot of interesting potential here. When you start
listening to the numbers, the fact that they found 5000 of
these things that they looked into, which seems excessive
means that's the tip of the iceberg. Yeah. There's probably
20,000 of these of these of these screwball kid flu answers,
which is idiotic, if anything ever has been. And you have to
wonder what's going on here. Let's go. Part two. What did
Unknown: you find about how prolific these accounts are and
why so many moms are into this?
My colleague Jennifer Valentino did reason I wanted to look into
this world of child influencers. And as you said, they often are
too young to have account to their own and so they're run by
their pay Parents, they got into them for a variety of reasons,
there was a range from dancers and gymnasts who wanted to get
free or discounted leotards in exchange for photos, modeling
the apparel. A lot of parents said that social media was the
way they could assure a good digital resume for their child's
future and maybe even help pay for college or gain
opportunities working with sought after choreographers on
the more extreme end your aspiring models, some had their
own subscriptions, both on Instagram, where they would
charge up to $20 a month for more photos or chat sessions
with the child or on other platforms where the monthly cost
went as high as $250.
Adam Curry: It's only fans for children, Lord Jesus come
quickly.
John C Dvorak: It's only fans for children. For $250 a month,
you can chat with one of these kids. Oh, this is sick. It's
totally This is so sick. And here's what one of the things
that you you listen to this report, and you just wonder
where they're where their reportage actually is because
his New York Times guys had like some sort of a weenie. And they
go on and on and on. Nobody seems to bring up the
possibility even though it has to be apparent. And there's a
pun in there. It has to be apparent that there is some moms
single moms, let's say not to put you know, put the point them
out specifically, who are whoring out their kids. You
know, it was net before it was never discussed. And for you
Adam Curry: continue. My sister Willow, you know, she did her
dissertation on social networking, social media, and
she did a lot of study. She got a degree online in psychology,
and Master's. And she she did this or she, I don't know if she
came across a study to the study yourself. But she told me that
the worst thing that that moms are doing early moms is they're
taking pictures while they're with their, like nursing, or
have their child in their arms. And she says it's it's been
proven that this is very destructive for the bonding
process between mother and child because the mother is not not
focused on the child, the mother is focused on herself. And this
is when this starts. It's really about the moms I think, and or
parents. I don't want to single moms. But I think it's about the
parents who are caught. I mean, this is this is not good.
John C Dvorak: Well, they only talk about moms here. So there
you can get leave the dads out, okay, they probably have no
obligation otherwise, let's go with clip three.
Unknown: So your report also found that a lot of the
followers of these accounts are men, are they driving these
accounts popularity and their profits? So
we did an analysis looking at the follower size of these
accounts, and the percentage of men in that audience and did
find correlation that as the audience's got larger, there
were more men in them. Now some parents and pretty much all the
parents we spoke to said that men following them and posting
inappropriately was a really big problem. Some of them said that
the first thing they did when they woke up in the morning was
block followers. And the last thing they did before they went
to bed was block followers. They often post inappropriate or even
proposition the girls in the comments below the photos. They
do block them as I said, but a lot of them ran into issues
where if they blocked too many Instagram would start limiting
their ability to either follow new accounts, or to block even
more one parents said, like I can't believe this. I've reached
my limit or the day of blocking creepy men.
Adam Curry: Oh my god, how about reporting? Have you considered
reporting creepy men? Is it just blocking it? Can't you report?
John C Dvorak: Now this seems to me this reminds me at this point
of the problem you get with spam calls and these guys with the
blue pillow. And pg&e, we get your 5% discount if you just
give us everything you know about yourself. Why doesn't the
government I mean, instead of finding more things to indict
Trump about Elizabeth
Adam Curry: Warren should be all over this. Yeah. Where's
John C Dvorak: Elizabeth Warren? And tracking these creepy men as
they put it, try there. They have IP addresses. This is all
trackable. Not all I'm sure some maybe go through a VPN some of
them maybe fool around in some funny way. way, but there's this
is like you could this is you could stop this. If the
government instead of going after Trump about everything
would spend a lot of time, the kind of
Adam Curry: I have no intention of stopping this, our lawmakers
have no intention. They, they they believe they need social
media, they believe they need these companies to post their
own idiotic crap about their little, little viral moment that
they tried to do during the so called debates. It's all in the
internet was a mistake. Though
John C Dvorak: I've said that forever. So let's go watch clip
for
Unknown: Michael, I just want to show our viewers an example of
what you're talking about. The New York Times in your
investigation doesn't show the actual post, but you describe
what the post showed a nine year old in a golden bikini, lounging
on a towel. And then you show the comments section full of
sexually suggestive remarks. But Michael, it doesn't stop at the
comments. In every case, you describe a world in which the
girls are sucked in to this sort of internet underworld of sexual
predation. Right.
And that was what was truly disturbing in what we found.
Beyond the suggestive or predatory comments, some parents
actually received threats from some of the online, they would
reach out and accused them of exploiting their child and
threatening to contact their school or their family and
friends and seemingly exposed them. Because it is worth noting
that in you know, photos of children in dance conventions
are normal within that context. But within the context of the
internet, people bring to them in some cases, their own skewed
points of view. And so these men were trying to seemingly with
threats of blackmail, cause a lot of actual harm to the
families to
Adam Curry: making this all about creepy men. How about the
creepy Mom's doing this? Yeah, stop it.
John C Dvorak: I definitely like I said, that's the question that
was never asked how many of these moms and how much of this
is the moms whoring out their kids,
Adam Curry: we really need to speak up and speak out about
these black holes of evil and wickedness. This is horrible.
Unknown: Clip five. So it occurs to me, Michael, that this is not
just an investigation into risks that girls are taking online.
But a story about parents who are making the decision to put
their girls at potential risk of ovulating at the very least,
what is the biggest takeaway for moms who are thinking of letting
their daughters become influencers?
So as we said, you know, Instagram does allow parents to
run these accounts for them even when they're below 13. But what
we found was that it is very hard to do so in a safe way. And
that it may take hours every day of blocking creepy or possibly
predatory men from interacting with the account. And the real
life threats that this could lead to maybe we heard stories
of strange packages, showing up at people's doors and could go
from the online world into real life and affect your family was
a really strong takeaway for me,
Adam Curry: is very disturbing. This is a disturbing report. Do
you have a a analysis of this?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I thought it was. It was just scratching
the surface. I think they found 5000 There's probably 20,000 Or
who knows how many. They don't mention anything about what
about a 13 year old doesn't need mom and she's decided to become
an influencer. And how did this influencer thing take off in the
first place? There's a lot of unanswered questions here.
Creepy or not? The whole thing this is bad.
Adam Curry: It's the entire business model of Instagram. It
is the business model of Instagram influencers. Yeah, and
there's money and people are dumb and they're not thinking
and the fact that they're just blocking and not reporting the
whole thing is wrong. It's very very wrong. And this will all be
added to kosa the kids Online Safety Act what is what this
will result in? I know this I guarantee it will be you cannot
be on any of these so called Social Media hellholes without
verified ID government ID you're going to that's where it's all
going to lead to anonymity will be gone mainly for the creepy
dudes but you will not be able to get an account unless it's
verified the government's gonna know it's going to end all the
cool anonymous so called free speech we have this is coming
down Oh, I think this report is a bowl of crap. You watch, there
John C Dvorak: is no way that the smart money can't get around
any of these restrictions by creating phony baloney
identities elsewhere in other countries using VPNs and Grand
Prix. I'm not saying it's going to India,
Adam Curry: I'm not saying you misunderstand what I'm saying.
I'm not saying it's going to fix it, that it will be required for
you to have an Instagram account as an American you will be
required to have to go through this process of verifying or
Twitter or Facebook or any of it that's what they're doing.
That's what they're setting up. It doesn't mean that it'll be
effective but that's that will be a requirement. Anything over
a million users will have that requirement I'm reading the law
I'm reading the bill that they're and the amendments
they're putting in there it's it's on its way.
John C Dvorak: Well, they're fooling themselves, but I
Adam Curry: didn't say I was going to fix it as long as
creepy moms will want to pour out their children that's never
going to stop
John C Dvorak: Yes. And with that you can conclude the
segment
Adam Curry: as a horrible segment I'm in desperate need of
a good news segment after I thank you for your courage and
say in the morning to you the man who put the sea and creepy
moms ladies and gentlemen say hello my friend on the other end
the morning Mr. John
John C Dvorak: Curtis and the millennial ships to see boots on
the ground feet in the air subs in the one that the names and
the nights out there and let us take
Adam Curry: a look at our trolls Hello beautiful trolls. Can you
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Trolls today's count 2103 So we're up 6060 Trolls check again
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John C Dvorak: and that was low. Well by Sunday numbers should be
2400
Adam Curry: Well, the maybe you shouldn't be playing these
creepy mom clips.
John C Dvorak: It's no that that probably kept him creepy mom
clips are a winner. CMC
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time, talent or treasure time and talent is hard for a lot of
people but some people are good at it, for instance are no
agenda artists. They like to listen live at in the usually at
the day jobs or doing something else. And then they just get on
the stick and start doodling around and try and create
artwork that we will then choose one for right after we're done
and post it. And we want to thank Darren O'Neill who really
understood exactly what we're talking about. And he did a meta
ai ai piece of album art. With a robot all Ai no doubt a robot
even with the hands wrong. He had
John C Dvorak: a right hand the left hand just got the thumb on
the wrong side. It
Adam Curry: was great. It was the best part. I wonder if that
was intentional. If the
John C Dvorak: AI screwed it up now the AI just does that. And
it but the whole
Adam Curry: thing was perfect. This was a viewer was painting
and no agenda sign. And it was good. I mean we looked at and
went you know set for the thumb but that That to me that made it
even better the show just how creepy and wrong all of this AI
is. It was a meta piece it was it was it was. It was actually
being sarcastic about him being critical
John C Dvorak: of him being sarcastic now, okay, I doesn't
have that sort of sense. No AI was very ironic
Adam Curry: down O'Neill has that sense. He knew how to use
it. Yeah. A lot of people don't. Now there were other pieces and
Gary's
John C Dvorak: got quite good at this.
Adam Curry: I have to say at prompt engineering.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, prompt engineers, not
Adam Curry: an artist. He's a prompt engineer. Yeah, well, he
John C Dvorak: was actually kind of pretty good as a as an
artist, but he's decided to give it up. Throw it to hell with it.
And now he's a prompt lumped in here which is really I'm
surprised he doesn't have the AI doing is rock and roll show
Adam Curry: is pre show him a may be AI for all we know, but
John C Dvorak: it could be pretty soon.
Adam Curry: We also like Tyler, bro, you like Tyler browns? Moon
Landing with the slate, which I nixed like now. It was too
simple.
John C Dvorak: Which one was this?
Adam Curry: It's the movie slate with the roll. 3030 I
John C Dvorak: liked that piece.
Adam Curry: I liked the super duper, which also from Darren
which you just wish
John C Dvorak: it had been going on whatsoever. Super duper.
That's
Adam Curry: your opinion.
John C Dvorak: There was no dimensionality. There wasn't any
other.
Adam Curry: Yeah, got it.
John C Dvorak: Use too small. You
Adam Curry: vetoed. It is too small. It's too small. It's
huge. We both kind of like comics or bloggers fake moon
landing. Kind of.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was cute. It's a nice patch.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I use it for the pre show announcement today.
And then I'm gonna see some other stuff all my fixes live in
Texas didn't really quite really quite hit home
John C Dvorak: it went to comic strip blogger also did the Dr.
Phil when next to it. And he's missing a finger it just is
gone. We're under what? Iteration five or six of this
art and they still can't get the hands right? It
Adam Curry: didn't even look like Dr. Phil didn't look like
him. No, that
John C Dvorak: was just a slice the microphone way up that
Adam Curry: guy dead? Yeah, because AI doesn't understand
audio. It doesn't
John C Dvorak: understand anything. I'm getting sick of
AI.
Adam Curry: Buckle up. Clip custodian nice little copy
editor red pencil, but now it didn't quite have it. I think
that was it. I mean, other things was anything else? No, I
think the AI prompt engineers are getting better though. If
they understand if they have it in their hearts and their souls
how to create, you know what a good piece of art should look
like. And they know how to create it. You know, it doesn't
matter what tool you use, I guess you still have to have
that funny bone mentality, or the or irony or something. So
that I just there wasn't anything else. there's anything
else you wanted to comment on? Nope. Well, thank you very much
Darren Darren O'Neill. That mean, his taste in music is
questionable.
John C Dvorak: As you already Taylor Swift as
Adam Curry: you always say, but this was a dynamite piece. We
really appreciate it. Thank you very much. And thank you to all
the artists for participating in this grand experiment. We try
out every single show twice a week. No agenda, art
generator.com. Thank you, Sir Paul couture for setting that up
and maintaining that for us. We love the new, the new style, the
new look, you can if you're listening live, you can go
there. And you can check it out in real time. Just refresh see
what's going on. Or if you use one of those modern podcast
apps, you'll see many more of these art pieces, as Dred Scott
uses most of them for the chapters which are of course
only available on modern podcast apps. Now let us thank the
treasurer portion, which means we have executive and Associate
Executive producers who helped us out and get not only kudos
for helping us at this level, but also receive an executive
producer or Associate Executive producer credit and I'm going to
be nice guy today. I'm gonna I'm gonna let you do the first one
and I'll take that huge one that comes right after it.
John C Dvorak: There's another one after that. Okay, well, this
one is $1,000. This is kind of an anomalous donation because I
went back
Adam Curry: it looks like 1100 to me not 1100 Yeah, I went
John C Dvorak: back and forth with Tsar Zarin Denzel because I
got a note from his brother. And his brother says, You can't use
my name. My brother just donated a bunch of money and he's gonna
you've given me the donation and I don't like your show. You
suck. And I don't want my name mentioned.
Adam Curry: He didn't say that he'd never heard the show.
John C Dvorak: Exactly. And so I sent that note to Zara and I
said, What is this? And he sent me a note back saying I didn't
know he's never listened to the show, I have no idea why he's
getting all bent out of shape. I never got the original note that
was crediting anybody. So I've got no real note from Zarn. And
I want if he has something he wants to tell us later, I will
be amenable to running it as a make good. But the there's
something missing here. And it's not the back and forth that I
did with him his brother that didn't
Adam Curry: Zarn donate on the previous show. Is that? No, it's
not where it came from. I thought that's where the problem
stem from? Whatever.
John C Dvorak: We got 1100 from him here, and we want to give
him a double up karma and we'll look for something in the
future. Yes.
Adam Curry: And the funny thing about the whole bit is that they
heard about the no agenda show in Europe on a train from some
random woman.
John C Dvorak: Yes, some woman in Switzerland. There you go. On
a train was promoting the no agenda show and they were a
dairy I guess oh cow check it out. And Zarin checked it out in
his brother. I guess it's just a net contrary. Now. Why would I
take the advice of some woman on the train? I got into nowhere
now. I'm not listening. All right. Here's
Adam Curry: the double up karma for you. Thank you. Sorry.
Unknown: You've got karma
Adam Curry: that we moved to Vincent viscounty from lantana,
Texas, and send us a very long note.
John C Dvorak: But you're lucky a lot of it doesn't need to be
read. Seems to me. Let me see
Adam Curry: how we do. Hello gents. Excuse me all of Gitmo
Nation. I'm very behind on shows. But I'm trying to catch
up since coming out of the COVID craze in 2021. I have never in
my life been so freaking busy. As I was reading the newsletter
last night, I came to the heart wrenching realization that it
has been way too long since making a producer level
contribution to the show. Thankfully, having set up a
monthly contribution, I only feel slightly douchebag is
nonetheless still a douchebag please dee doo
Unknown: dee doo. I'm
Adam Curry: gonna ask for essentially a switcheroo. He
says please give credit for this executive producer ship to my
smokin hot wife Sinead. In light of our recent anniversary and
her upcoming birthday. It's a two for one. And she always
appreciates a bargain. And our anniversary is on February 2,
which I recently discovered falls on the 33rd day of the
year. Furthermore, it is 333 days from the end of the year on
a leap year credit to my desktop calendar. This was not
intentional, but certainly destiny. And excuse me, I need a
lozenge. Also please give our beautiful human resource. EO a
if I'm gonna try pronouncing it backwards. The firewall if I
forget
John C Dvorak: it, elf
Adam Curry: Elfi I'm gonna say a ofI a happy I'm sorry kid.
John C Dvorak: I certainly can't pronounce your name. Why don't
you like in life?
Adam Curry: Why didn't you just give us a pronunciation guide
Why be so mean bra a happy 13th Birthday shout out she has been
a fan of the show since she was nine years old and is growing up
with a shrunken image
John C Dvorak: yet she needs it needs we need to know how to
pronounce yes yeah, we want to
Adam Curry: we definitely want to know how to pronounce her
name. That's kind of mean lastly we can get some new business
house selling and moving to Tennessee karma and our family
favorite jingle. The strain foamer guy sure keep up the
great work seriously don't stop or the world very might well
end. Sorry for the long note. I would have been a shorter note.
Had I had more time. Yeah. All right. Oh my god. You've got
karma. Sinead changing Sinead. Okay, so
John C Dvorak: now we have the if I can move this thing over
and this is going to take a second to get cleaned up. This
is command command command. I can read every Okay, Jake. Jake,
in God's country comes in with a it will click up I can't there
are 333 Okay. And I can actually barely read this note, but I
can. Turns out if I click on this thing,
Adam Curry: oh my goodness, just do it already.
John C Dvorak: You know, it's not as easy when the thing blows
out this spreadsheet. This is longer than the other note.
Millennial producer here and it's been far too long since
I've chipped in and he got 33 all over the place. I'll skip to
that. I'm an in private investing industry allocating
dollars for ultra high net worth families and institutions to
purchase equity positions in privately held companies. In my
travels, I deal with a spectrum of thoughts and ideologies. But
one thing I'm struggling to get behind is the thesis of handing
former President Trump the ticking time bomb as you both
are more likely aware of the Biden administration. He's doing
almost everything to prop up uncle Bernie for another weekend
or two. Not talking about Bernie Sanders No. The record oil
production which people don't want to discuss, uncapped debt
ceiling which people don't want to discuss phony jobs and
inflation data which we discuss does not sound like a team ready
to wave the white flag my prediction not to be heated as
financial advice is as follows. I thought this would be good to
read. And of course he puts a disclaimer in there because you
can't really take this advice no as financial advice you need to
go to an expert, your personal expert. Government continues to
spend like drunken sailors throughout the year will lead it
will lead to persistent inflation from three to 5%
Forcing no fed cuts in 2024 I'm down the SP five but
Adam Curry: I'm down I agree. I don't think there's going to be
any cuts they might raise it.
John C Dvorak: They're never gonna raise it. Not in an
election year never happened. SP 500 all time high will continue
throughout 2024 I think there will be a cut in Vidya is a
house of car yeah,
Adam Curry: I'm all in on that.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, when you don't know
Adam Curry: you shorted it on your game.
John C Dvorak: I heard your next I may have the next week I
probably lost my acid. Next refinancing wave will trigger
the next issue 2025 When mass refinancing will occur in a load
of negative growth environment mixed with higher rates will
show many Emperor's wearing no clothes finally, if you can buy
private businesses or find the means to allocate so it don't
put your hard earned dollars into the whims of Wall Street
and other news I would be around I should be around knighthood
next donation should do it. You'll hear from me soon you
guys are great. have not missed an episode since Greta was
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Adam Curry: Yeah All right. Thank you very much. I know
Trump don't trust China China is as HoH would resist
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tortoise in the race then co author of who briefs you to lead
singer Bono friend dry ships. We suspect Jaha Sanaya of Rush
Limbaugh Rush Limbaugh Rush Limbaugh the show rush Lombard
hosts Supreme Court Justice Sonia Santa Maya,
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Adam Curry: Adam Ruiz is planning on moving back to the
US after living in China for the last five years. And he comes in
with 333 We appreciate that it says that need some jobs karma
for my smokin hot wife. I also turned 33 A few months ago, so I
thought it'd be appropriate to donate 333 Thank you, Adam and
John. Well, we are very happy and we appreciate your support
jobs,
Unknown: jobs,
jobs and jobs for jobs.
John C Dvorak: Put Adam Ruiz on the birthday list. Billy Graham
I'll add him there. He doesn't ask for it but nobody deserves
here Billy Graham and Fort Myers, Florida has 2361 When
she's the first Associate Executive Producer he has no
note that I can find so on to give her a double up karma.
Unknown: You've got karma
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Adam Curry: that wraps up our no it doesn't that doesn't wrap up
our executive and Associate Executive
John C Dvorak: Spangler right in Mount Pleasant Pennsylvania
camera to under budget right here right. Is ITM some
millennial job karma has some millennial karma and and I got
ants. Thank you for occure your courage Kara.
Adam Curry: All right, well, that'll be our last one then. A
little bit of ants for you and Millennial karma.
Unknown: I got ants.
Adam Curry: Ants you've got karma. Hold on a second. Second,
I have a feeling. Is there an actual millennial karma jingle?
I want to make sure I did the right one is that? Am I am
millennial karma? Yes. Yes, I was right. I think there is
millennial karma. Yes, here it is. There it is.
Unknown: God,
Adam Curry: I'm just telling you. This is millennial karma.
There you go. That's it. Our Executive Associate Executive
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John C Dvorak: yeah, we're gonna start with Diane Clinton in
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Really not absolutely sure why, but she also says thanks for the
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Adam Curry: What is her pod?
John C Dvorak: Gosh, we plugged it or we play Kevin. But not
today. We plugged it at some point. I don't know what it is
because she didn't mention it in the card. Kevin McLaughlin is
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Unknown: is this. We go out we hit people in the mouth
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and Happy belated birthday to Adam Ruiz and congratulations to
all of you from everybody in the best podcast. Sounds weird all
of a sudden. What's happened? You hear? Does it sound weird to
you? Just something changed? I
John C Dvorak: went over modulated? Yeah. I don't know.
Why did that happen earlier in the show?
Adam Curry: Hmm.
John C Dvorak: Just out of the blue.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's very odd. Strange. Something's going
on.
John C Dvorak: You're losing a capacitor in that pod thing?
Adam Curry: I hope not. I hope not. I was very strange and
wonderfully see. Oh, nice. See what the problem was? Somehow
the processing got turned off. Yeah, that'll do it. Okay. All
right. That should fix it. Now. Let me see. We always said we
have no nice things. No title changes. Just another plea. No
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Unknown: No one. I like the
control rooms.
Adam Curry: The troll room said it was either a glitch or a
cyber attack. The spook spliced into the audio stream. Yeah, I
think I think it was all all the above. Hey, Jesse coy Nelson
came back with a dynamite meetup report from the Singapore meetup
Unknown: Hey, it's the Singapore no agenda geo Jigsaw meetup.
This is Sen geo
Jigsaw we're all having fun here getting blasted.
Listener Chris listener since 2009. Proud member of the deuces
club. Probably time I donate again. Thanks so much for coming
to Singapore. It's nice to have the first meet up here. This is
Andy. Oh shit I shouldn't have given my last day. Are there any
more people in Singapore that listens to this? Let us know.
Let us know.
This is Anthony Fauci. I came to this meetup because I want to
see how things are going in Asia with my shots in the morning.
Nice.
Adam Curry: Hey, there were people there. Hello, Singapore.
We need some donations from Singapore 11 out there. We got
stripe now. So you can use that. Speaking of Anthony Fauci. We
had dinner with a couple people last night. I love my
Fredericksburg people. The latest that I heard. Did you
know that Mother Teresa? That Anthony Fauci is actually, the
child of Mother Teresa and Mother Teresa is a dude. But you
didn't know that, did you?
John C Dvorak: Well, you know, looking at Mother Teresa, I can
kind of believe the last thing but then again, how could
Anthony Fauci be the son of Mother Teresa? No Mother
Adam Curry: Teresa's mother, Teresa fathered Anthony Fauci.
There was an there's a ghost moved to the right place. I love
this place. It's fantastic. I also love the guardians of
reality. They had a meet up in Florence, Kentucky, as Florence
y'all. Jen of the woodland Shire reported and she says that it
was great. They had many members of the shrunken amygdala, tre
Lea, Greg newcomer Michel and it was the topic of discussion
birthing stories, breastfeeding, doulas home I got trust policy
for wills carpentry needs on fixed income resources,
connection solutions, Bitcoin tax law for small business
religions, specifically Catholic Catholic and orthodoxy books and
authors. I mean, this is exactly didn't make a report obviously.
But this is exactly the kinds of stuff you can get into it or no
agenda meet up and the great thing is, it doesn't matter
where you're coming from, what angle you're coming from,
everybody loves each other. It's a great place to get connection
as you know that what he Do you drink? I'm
John C Dvorak: not eating anything.
Adam Curry: Are you drinking something? Do you crack? Uh,
can? You did? What did you do? What is it? What did you get?
John C Dvorak: I got the Pellegrino ah, there now let me
tell you what this is. It's Pellegrino, tangerine and wild
strawberry, a Sensia. Yum. And it tastes you know, it tastes
like, like bass like nothing. It tastes like plain unflavored
mineral water. Well, that's
Adam Curry: interesting because I always open my show beer. You
never call me on. But I am drinking a Waterloo, Blackberry
lemonade, and it tastes just like your thing. There's no
taste to this. He really should
John C Dvorak: have Blackberry. No, it tastes like mineral
strong flavored Berry.
Adam Curry: It tastes like mineral water. It really does.
It's like they forgot
John C Dvorak: they're just packing mineral I'm putting
phony baloney labels on everything.
Adam Curry: Hey, no agenda meetup.com
Unknown: Sometimes you want to go hang out with Dyson.
Adam Curry: No, I forgot some here. You
Unknown: won't be cheap. You
Adam Curry: I forgot to mention the meetups taking place on
Thursday, which is the North Georgia monthly meetup that'll
be at six o'clock at Cherry Street brewing in Alpharetta,
Georgia and also on Thursday the Denver leap here day meet up 630
bar 404 in Denver Colorado there's a whole lot for March
April. You definitely need to go to one of these you wouldn't you
there's no regretting going to a no agenda meetup. Prove me
wrong. No agenda meetups.com And now once again, this heavy news
we'll see everybody we'd like to end our show particularly where
we had credible ISOs. Want I'm completely off track here.
You're right. Yes. Okay. But you know, instead of saying when you
when you esos ASA you could have said Hey, you forgot the ISOs
Hey, I
John C Dvorak: forgot the ISO so thanks.
Adam Curry: Well, here's my ISO Oh, my lever. That's my only ISO
that's
John C Dvorak: probably why.
Adam Curry: Okay, what do you have ISO wise John sounds like
you got some really good ones.
John C Dvorak: They have three. Okay. Dynamite dynamite
Adam Curry: alive. That's, that's pretty good. That's
pretty good. You've
John C Dvorak: heard that wouldn't be fair. Yeah, that's
like GABA. Hashtag hashtag
Adam Curry: no agenda. It's too late.
John C Dvorak: Okay, thank you.
Adam Curry: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. No, I
think dynamite dynamite dynamite is the one that really Yes, I
like dynamite. You don't like dynamite?
John C Dvorak: No, I mean, I didn't dislike it but I thought
you'd pick the Thank You know, I have a betting pool on what you
pick
Adam Curry: for money.
John C Dvorak: I lost
Adam Curry: Who do you who was in the pool? Who are these nut
jobs?
John C Dvorak: And I can't say they won't they don't want their
names revealed?
Adam Curry: The lip Joe's the lip Joe's are listening. Yeah.
Lip Joes. Those guys
John C Dvorak: have stopped talking to me.
Unknown: Good good news.
Adam Curry: Good news. Good. Good news. Good news. All right.
Good news. Good news. Here we go. I'm sorry. I jumped the gun
on Yeah, just ever since that glitch. I was confused either.
John C Dvorak: Yes, the glitch, the glitch net which makes me
wonder if you're a i This is another not the same but a
different this is a dog rescue story from your neck of the
woods, Texas, Texas, Texas puppy
Unknown: love this morning on Good Morning El Paso or we
introduce you to a mother and her litter of pups that would
not have lived for us to tell this story. If it weren't for a
good Samaritan
got a call from a young lady that works by the for Border
Patrol out there and said that people are always dumping
animals out there and this is the second mama that they took
pictures of and sent to me and asked if I could help because
she was about ready to pop I mean she was so huge from having
so many puppies, nine
puppies to be exact and they are cuties. But Mama was in such bad
shape from being neglected and going without food and water for
so long. She had complications giving birth she had to have a C
section. So now to help her recover and to give her babies
the best chance at a healthy start there. Those babies are
now bottle fed every few hours.
This is truly a happy ending because she definitely wouldn't
have made it out there in the desert in the dirt and the
puppies wouldn't have made it either. They you know there's a
lot of coyotes and things going on so they would have probably
she might have been able to save one or two she's gonna go to a
forever home and to know that her babies are well taken care
drove. I think we did good. Like 6k I
think they all did good. Thanks to Animal Rescue League, these
little guys can now be adopted. And by the way, there's another
mama dog she mentioned at the beginning of that piece who was
saved with a very similar story. So double the puppies, if you're
looking to adopt a furry family member of your own, because a
lot of people do want a puppy and there's nothing wrong with
wanting a puppy and now there are plenty to choose from and
who can say no to
those adorable faces? Right? I will say I have four dogs at
home trying to rescue two cats. Everyone can just take it
another dog.
Adam Curry: No, no, not everyone can just take it another dog.
But, John, a great good news story. I feel good. Like I feel
very positive now.
Unknown: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Everybody should feel good after that. How could
you not?
John C Dvorak: It's just dying puppies rescued is
Adam Curry: just good. It's just all good. I'm ready. Now I'm
ready to complete my Sunday. With that feeling of good news,
it really counterbalances the creepy moms. vetoing those
stories can't do that anymore. We have some end of show mixes
we got the clip custodian Neal Jones himself kicking it off,
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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon Valley where we're still wishing
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mofos Hui Hui, and such I
Unknown: love they did they call them dumps. big massive dump.
We will follow them to the gates and house.
Adam Curry: Mom Bom Bom Bom. Bom Bom them and Bom them again.
Hillary Clinton made a mistake to red carpet event beautiful
blond haired, very fashionable clothes. Well, she forgot that
people hate her guts who could be more evil than Putin.
Unknown: Hillary Clinton. How dare you speak about human
rights where Palestinians are being murdered?
People are suffering. People are dying you are a war criminal.
How dare you
yourself it is not shameful to do little bit crass It is
shameful to do nothing but
Adam Curry: maybe Clinton killer Clinton that they should do
something they need to work on that did more of this please
John C Dvorak: you're in the Middle East Libya and fit into
the scheme of things based on what she just said what
difference at this point doesn't make to Simulink so rigged
Adam Curry: and I'm all for this keep yelling at all of them.
Unknown: How dare you continue to look away?
Adam Curry: She's great she she's recognizable
all the leaks of the world including those who were in the
war business. I think get bed curry There you go.
Unknown: Curry Curry was
Adam Curry: more of this please. You're to cinema for Peace
Foundation.
Unknown: Hillary Clinton How dare you speak about human
rights. Palestinians are being murdered. There it is.
Morning from Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk has nothing to do with
cars then must warn about artificial intelligence which he
has called more dangerous than nuclear weapons. Computer
Adam Curry: computer working working with artificial
intelligence. Stories were working as the guy with the
pentagram and holy water was like working work. gain control
for bio computer things in credit can be nailed naming
rights
Unknown: can be worth
are you concerned that of the our new woke AI that we're
writing history and maybe even wonder rewriting reality
Adam Curry: they're they're laughing up this AI crap when
they Your enemy is
Unknown: big tech
they're amazing companies they call for over half of the gains
from the get rich off these companies these folks at Google
and other other technology companies are kind of distorting
history
is trying to shape society
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