Adam Curry: Uh oh my God. Adam curry, John C Devorah. Say
December 21 2023. This is your award winning Kuma nation media
assassination episode 1618. This is no agenda, crossing the
border up and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region number six. In the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry came
John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley, where everybody
agrees that perhaps the dumbest and maybe the worst show in the
history of television is the masked singer. I'm John C.
Dvorak skill. In the morning, in the morning to you in the
morning, everybody.
Adam Curry: Why are you watching the masked singer? I
John C Dvorak: mean, not. That's why I said it's showing the
history of television. Okay, just one. What is anybody watch
it?
Adam Curry: I don't know. If
John C Dvorak: you watched Jenny McCarthy go. Oh, my God. She's
all she does on the show. Is she on this show? Yeah, she's one of
the judges.
Adam Curry: Man. You know, that could be me. That could be my
career.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it would fit right in is
Adam Curry: Oh, my Oh, my God. She does you imagine, you know,
getting old? You know, Vijay, the only people over 45 know who
you are. And that's all you got is you're gonna be a judge on
some shows.
John C Dvorak: Based probably better than what we're getting.
Yeah. Well, hmm. Especially after this fantastic promotion
we did for the Golden Circle or whatever it
Adam Curry: was actually, there was something interesting.
Netflix published its numbers that they're viewing and guess
hours viewed numbers yet?
John C Dvorak: No. Yeah, they do the second billions of seconds
viewed they have this crazy. Not the way their system is just
nuts. Right? They can, they can nail it to the obvious to the
minute. So
Adam Curry: James Cridland who does pod news. He's nice. He's
does a daily show. And he he's a numbers guy. Because of course,
the podcast industrial complex is all about numbers. Don't
worry, it's all going up more ads are coming. It's gonna be
great. And so he put together this calculator because we
publish our our stats on this thing called op threes nuts how
we know that we have eight 900,000 people a month to listen
to the show. And so he took that and he cross reference it with a
Netflix numbers. And as it turns out, this show is bigger than
93% of any shows on Netflix. I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. And
Netflix on average, people pay 53 cents an hour for the content
if you break it all down into what people are watching and how
much they pay per month. Man if only if only if
John C Dvorak: everybody Yeah, well, that's we do have some
people that do pay that. Well, yeah, but contribute that to the
show. But it's only 1% 2% of the total. Yeah.
Adam Curry: If only if only everybody did it would be great.
Well,
John C Dvorak: Netflix has a model that they're long it was
to make it even partially work. Everybody else is struggling
with streaming.
Adam Curry: Struggling with streaming. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: I think the reason that there's everyone's
struggling with streaming is Netflix got in they perfected
the model. Yeah, they did a good job of taking their customer
base and turning into stream street hackers.
Adam Curry: Remember, they had DVDs. Remember, they were the
mail around? I was cool. I
John C Dvorak: was and the other people are Johnny come lately.
So what are you gonna do to one of those few examples in tech?
And I would call this tech in Tech where the first guy got in
first dominated dominant. Generally speaking, it's like
the second or third Gale perfects things.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. So I was the first in podcasting and no
one has heard no one has perfected it second or third.
John C Dvorak: No, you actually have you're the first to get
because you did the pocket. The podcasting. 2.0 is something
that should get you a Nobel Peace Prize.
Adam Curry: So just since you brought that up last night did
the first value for value concert. And people were using
the modern apps and they were streaming value for value and I
think the artists Ainsley crystella made like $3,000 value
for value works. It really does.
John C Dvorak: Well, how much would she normally make zero?
Adam Curry: He's talking about zero. If first of all you can't
even do a live streaming concert. What is Spotify is
going to pay you for that. No, no, no. Tonight they do it
again. Nicer there live from Minneapolis and it's exciting
stuff. It's exciting. Anyway, this whole what's poppin right
now that everyone in my neck of the woods I said it neck of the
woods is talking about is these migrants and let's just call
them asylum seekers, illegal immigrants. And so now, it seems
that on social media people have discovered that they're being
flown to other countries, other cities in the country which we
knew this
John C Dvorak: has been going on for years. But now all of a
sudden that that those those midnight flights has been
documented people will take their cameras out and tomb shown
these flights being filled.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but now it's commercial flights. They're
buying seats from Delta and American, by the way, business
class seats and people are getting Yes, and people are
getting bumped from the flights because there's so many migrants
who are getting these these Priebe this premium boarding
premium seating. I mean, you can have as many asylum seekers and
migrants as you want illegal immigrants in America. But when
you start bumping people off of flights, people lose their crap.
This is this is where Americans draw the line, Hey, you want to
be here illegally, whatever, but you are not taking my seat. So
this is mainly coming from Arizona. Large large groups of
people. Tickets typically purchased within 72 hours of
departure because whoever buys the tickets needs a name to
purchase tickets making the fares very high. So these are
very profitable for the airlines. This is why they don't
get bounced. They also do not have to meet normal TSA
John C Dvorak: is costing the American taxpayer Oh, brother.
Adam Curry: We still we got a we got a note from this as a good
note boots on the ground. Nice. We'll just get right into it.
I've got a couple of clips to telling you this. And anonymity.
I'm an officer with TSA San Diego International Airport. My
background with TSA is with the behavior detection program and
the insider threat teams. So this is not just some rando
who's yelling at you about your bottle water
John C Dvorak: guys is looking for witching
Adam Curry: Exactly. What's the Oh, hey, look at that curry guy.
Man. He's twitching all over the place. Pull him over. I have 10
years of experience with observing and conversing with
the traveling public and fought off the vaccine mandate. So if
you'd like I've earned my stripes to speak on this with
some authority. Yes, sir. Oh, yes, sir. Yes, sir. For him.
There are hundreds or her there are hundreds of illegals slash
asylum seekers passing through our airport daily for well over
a year now. And recently I've been able to piece together who
exactly as assisting with these people. Christian family
services and Jewish Family Services have volunteers that
guide large groups from the bus drop off through TSA screening
right onto their departing flights. to young women that I
assume were volunteers caught my eye in the spring and through
the summer because of their flirtatious nature with the
young male TSOs of the time they spent inside the sterile area
without any asylum seekers in their care. I approached one of
the girls that was speaking to a Jewish Family Services volunteer
and was able to conclude these two young women are paid
contracts and employees with an NGO non governmental
organization called IEM. i e m.com. Based on what I read of
this group, they're well entrenched with assisting the
government through many avenues of disaster relief, even the
COVID vaccine rollout these guys do at all. I mean, they are a
military contractor of their big, big business, ie m.com. As
for the asylum seeker manual, I try to come to your own
conclusions. I think this im group, along with many others
take custody of these people, when they crossed the border,
keep control of them with housing all the way through,
even with with even judicial proceedings to support court
dates have been confirmed to be well into 2027 and beyond. This
is how it's working. So all this busing stuff from Texas. Yeah,
sure. And in fact, Texas is tired of the buses themselves
since Chicago has been impounding buses will just rent
the plane.
Unknown: It was a private plane that was chartered by Texas
Department of Emergency Management that brought 100
migrants here to Chicago Tuesday night, according to the city and
landed at O'Hare Airport around 715. And on social media, Texas
Governor Greg Abbott's administration posted about the
plane saying, because Mayor Johnson is failing to live up to
a city's welcoming city ordinance by targeting migrant
buses from Texas. We are expanding our operation to
include flights to Chicago like the Biden administration has
been doing across the country. So President Biden has steps up
and does his jobs to secure the border Texas will continue
taking historic action to help our local partners respond to
the Biden nade crisis. Governor Abbott says his administration
has blessed nearly 83,000 migrants to sanctuary cities.
Chicago has received more than 24,000 so far. And during an
interview with Wu TTW Mayor Brandon Johnson said the
governor of Texas determined to create chaos and we also know
that the Latino Caucus will join others out here downtown later
on this morning to demand more help from the federal government
government I should say in handling my We're in crisis here
in Chicago.
Adam Curry: So everyone's blaming Abbott, of course. And
what he did was obviously, what we should just call it
performative with this. Show me your papers bill that he signed,
the Republican
Unknown: governor of Texas, Greg Abbott signed a sweeping new law
today that lets local police arrest migrants who crossed the
border illegally. It also lets state judges order them to leave
the country. Opponents say it directly violates federal
authority over immigration. Texas Republicans say the Biden
administration isn't doing enough to stop illegal
immigration. So
Adam Curry: we got rob our constitutional lawyer who
immediately is all over this so we have a good breakdown of what
what the law is actually three bills. It's not just one, which
is worth breaking down. Three state law bills. three bills the
first allows Texas law enforcement officers to arrest
suspected illegals and judges to deport them summarily critics of
course, calling this the show me your papers law. The second bill
funds the wall, along with stepped up patrols in places
like Houston and the third bill ups the penalty for being a
coyote or running a stash house from two years imprisonment
imprisonment to 10. And this law was, as you could predict,
immediately challenged in court, the ACLU filed a suit
representing loss Americans immigrant advocacy Advocacy
Center American gateways and El Paso County, El Paso we've been
overrun with illegal immigration. Like We're suing
you. We love it. I know what's wrong with El Paso. But of
course, they're sort of they've asked for an injunction
injunction precluding Texas from enforcing the law as declared
declaratory judgment decreeing that the law is
unconstitutional, which it probably is. plaintiffs have
stated they will seek a temporary injunction to tide
them over all the case proceeds according to our constitutional
lawyer, they'll probably be a stay. And so this will have to
play out over the next year, they need to file a cert
petition with the Supreme Court. So this will go to the Supreme
Court in the meantime, this is going to be the big the big
distraction. So we don't pay attention to Israel. Don't pay
attention to Hunter Biden, don't pay attention to Joe Biden
falling down. I mean, it's really in competition with the
John C Dvorak: anti sell down again.
Adam Curry: You would know because everyone's either
talking about Trump or this and I have to border clips. Okay.
And then I have a couple of things and a conclusion here. I
John C Dvorak: have some Texas border update. Texas border
update.
Adam Curry: Oh, it's one of our favorites. Oops.
Unknown: This is in D. D. Biden's deliberate inaction, has
left Texas to fend for itself.
Texas Governor Greg Abbott on Monday signed a law giving local
officials the ability to arrest and deport illegal immigrants.
Multiple civil rights groups are now challenging it saying Texas
unlawfully keeps the federal government from enforcing
immigration laws.
Adam Curry: And this guy sounds a bit like Patrick bet David,
don't you think little Yes, that's
John C Dvorak: funny. This is you get to see this guy. He's a
very German looking guy No visually, is he's actually
doesn't look quite like his voice.
Unknown: It's interesting from enforcing immigration laws and
that it illegally bars immigrants from applying for
asylum. Mexican president Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador says Mexico
is also preparing to challenge the law.
To tell our fellow countrymen and migrants we will be
defending them. Texas governor acts that way because he wants
to be the vice president candidate for the Republican
Party in the United States. And with these measures, he wants to
gain popularity.
Republican footage from Eagle Pass Texas on Wednesday shows
1000s of immigrants trying to enter the Lone Star State, the
new law is set to take effect in March. In other Texas related
news, a razor wire fence is allowed to stay up at the state
southern border for now. A federal appeals court on Tuesday
temporarily blocked the Biden administration from removing the
fence.
Adam Curry: I will point out that it is supposed to take
place March 5, which is the beginning the date exact date of
the Republican primaries. So coincidence, probably not. It's
all political. It's all performative. And I'm going to
read a bill to you which I think explains what's really going on
here. What is your second clip here?
Unknown: Back in October, the states sued the Biden
administration for cutting almost 30 miles of concertina
wire. And lastly, illegal immigration now affects
international trade. business groups and train operators are
pressing the government to reopen rail bridges in Eagle
Pass and El Paso border authorities closed them on
Monday because They're understaffed. The US Chamber of
Commerce says shutting down road traffic through Eagle Pass in El
Paso will inflict significant economic harm
Adam Curry: Dalia, there's going to be economic harm, it's going
to be horrible. And I have a couple of short clips here from
Democrat representatives. Who are I mean, very interesting how
they I think the American public in general is against this, that
everyone's sick of it everybody in even in the so called
sanctuary cities, they see it, that you can't hide it anymore.
If you have if people haven't been kicked out of their hotels
for their wedding parties, because migrants, Bo and it's
and by the way, the language is asylum seekers, migrants,
there's very little illegal immigrants, there's none of that
being said, this is Jasmine Crockett,
Unknown: today concern because the Republicans have never
gotten immigration. Right. That's just the fact of it.
There's not very much that the Republicans get right, in
general. And so to basically say that issues of national
security, as relates to how we're going to take care of our
allies should be tied to this mangled immigration process is
absolutely insane. I mean, when you look at somebody like Greg
Abbott, my governor, and his solution, his solution is to
basically say, Hey, we're gonna kill people that are trying to
come in, like, that's not a solution, like the Republicans
don't have the solutions. They want to continue to defund the
aid that is going to aid but they're border security. Well, I
mean, who's gonna sign up for this job and you're not paying
worth anything?
Adam Curry: She's dumb. All right. She represents the state
of Texas.
John C Dvorak: Boy, she is. She's
Adam Curry: dumb. Here's Jaya Paul, who is it was very
concerned that you know, because there's, there's work going on.
Now. Remember, the whole idea is no aid for Ukraine, no aid for
Israel aid. This is called aid, no bombs for Israel, no bombs
for Ukraine. And Toby, fix the border? Well, Joe, better not do
that. That question that you get from the left. If he doesn't
agree to these changes. He's
Unknown: gonna there's going to be a lot. We have to put
together a coalition that is the same coalition we delivered in
2020. For him to win the White House for us to win the Senate.
And for us to kick back the House. And that coalition
involves a lot of young voters. It involves a lot of immigrant
voters involves a lot of folks of color.
Adam Curry: Immigrant voters, yeah, yeah. Oh, she said the
quiet part out loud there, didn't she? We need immigrant
voters, but almost almost as stupid. As Debbie Dingell. What
a great name. I like the angle Debbie Dingell. I feel bad. She
wants waves put
Unknown: us your response when he says that the border is
broken under President Biden orders been broken was broken
under Donald Trump as well. Or immigration reform. We need a
comprehensive immigration reform for decades. Let me also say
you've got small business clamoring for people we've
talked caregiving, which is in desperate shape, and we need to
bring some ways people need to be we don't want illegals. We
don't want other people coming in. We don't want drugs coming
across our border. We need a balanced comprehensive
immigration policy.
Adam Curry: Okay, first of all, whenever someone when someone
says comprehensive immigration reform, they're full of crap,
because all you need to do is just follow the law as it is.
But she literally sits there and says we need caregivers. We need
Maria to take care of our kids.
Unknown: Come on. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I mean, gardeners, gardeners, yes, please. More
slabs.
John C Dvorak: And we need who's going to take care who's going
to clean our toilets? Yeah. One of the ladies on the views.
Adam Curry: Do we still have that clip? I wonder who
John C Dvorak: know it was I think it was sunny Hostin who
said that. I'm going to be there Navarro.
Adam Curry: I wonder if we have that. I can't find it offhand.
Anyway. Now we have, oh, this is another Jim, Becca Baylands.
balance balance. Well, obviously, it's obvious what's
going on here.
Unknown: So we've got the situation here, where speaker
Johnson is not somebody who has seriousness of purpose. He
doesn't understand the stakes. When you pull out 40,000 feet,
you see someone that is essentially doing who is
bidding. It's
Adam Curry: doing potent work, okay. He's doing Putin's
bidding. Yes, yes. These she has a good term in here that we've
Unknown: got a situation here where speaker Johnson is not
somebody who has seriousness of purpose. He doesn't he
Adam Curry: doesn't have seriousness of purpose, whatever
that means. i It's DC gobbly gook. And then of course,
another Democrat. representative from the great state of Texas,
Joaquin Castro,
Unknown: I want to speak quickly to the Democrats in the Senate
and others who are considering supporting this proposal. If you
do so, you will be surrendering to right wing racism. There it
is. And more than that, you will be enabling it.
Adam Curry: Yes. Racist. Oh, and rolling it even Yes, racism. Now
this is this not I do have an issue myself with the idea of
show me your papers. Because then this has happened to me in
Texas. We discussed that many years ago, when I drove from
California, when I fled California to Texas, within 100
miles of the border this checkpoints, show me your papers
was is not cool. I don't like the idea. I think that's a bad
way to to solve this. You know, obviously, the federal
government needs to not allow people in anymore at these non
non approved crossings, it just has to stop the laws are on the
books. Just stop, stop, stop. So
John C Dvorak: I don't understand this. Show me your
papers and obviously didn't work?
Adam Curry: Well, no, because, well, it works to some degree.
But it was still. The catch and release is the policy. That's
what's changed. It's the policy, not the law. The law is no you
can't come in. And if you just can't be if you don't have the
right paperwork. And by the way, you also need all kinds of
vaccinations to emigrate to, or at least proof of vaccinations
to immigrate to America, but I know this process, but this
racism part. Ah, that's the one that's catching fire. I don't
watch sports ball TV. But Stephen A Smith, I believe he's
using ESPN guy. Yeah, yeah. Well, of course, ESPN is where
you go to hear about politics.
Unknown: Greg Abbott, you ever heard of him? He's the governor
for the state of Texas on Monday, that governor Governor
Abbott signed a bill into law that will allow the police to
arrest migrants who entered the US illegally. This law which
takes effect in March allows any Texas law enforcement officer to
arrest people who are suspected of entering the country.
illegally. That's what we're going to do to our Latino
brothers and sisters. It's racist. Somebody needs to say it
so I'm gonna say it's a racist as thing to do. suspicion.
Suspect suspected of entering the country illegally, how can
you be suspected of entering the country illegally? So you
chillin in downtown Dallas, or Houston? You hanging out with a
bunch of folks, you're speaking Spanish instead English. Your
clothes might not be a Tom Ford suit or something. You might not
be wearing a Jordan sweat suit. You might look a little poor and
impoverished, a bit heading haggard, you're haphazard. Those
things might you might not look the part. That's a suspicion.
They can literally labeled that as suspicion to justify
arresting you not questioning you. Not asking for an ID. They
literally can arrest you. What a disgrace. And the thing, I love
this state from the standpoint that it's got no state income
taxes. You got beautiful cities like Dallas and Houston and
Austin, Texas. I'm looking forward to being in the city
like that someday. And then I see a governor like this doing
this kind of nonsense. It's a damn disgrace. It really really
is.
Adam Curry: Calm down, calm down. It was also quite racist.
John C Dvorak: Make this make one thing clear, since you don't
watch sports ball. He's a representative of the Walt
Disney Company.
Adam Curry: Well, that's ESPN bspa Is is owned by Disney.
John C Dvorak: This very racy Disney for giving us politics in
the middle of what we what we care about, which is sports.
Adam Curry: He he's racist, because it's Chinese. It's
Africans as a lot of it's not just brown people coming across
the border, okay. But those days are over. It is kind of over.
So, so they're there. Now, I figured all of a sudden they hit
me. I'm like, so of course this bill is going to be challenged.
But of course, that won't happen. But I can see where they
can do the stash houses. Yeah, that'll probably that'll
probably stay okay. But this is all politics. And it both
parties are against you and me going against Americans. Chuck
Schumer is like, yeah, we got to do this. Yeah, we got to figure
this one out. With the minute you get Lindsey Graham, who kick
this off saying no, I'm not gonna until we get some border
stuff. We gotta get the border. That was a that was a tip off
that something is up. So when I see Chuck Schumer saying, Yeah,
we got to we got to do this. So now instead of just saying,
adhere to the policy, we already have stopped people from coming
in. But no, there's a bill. There's a bill. And I don't know
if this is going to be the final bill. But this is what Chuck
Schumer has been working on. I'm going to read from some papers
that he has filed. He's even put this in previous legislation.
And this is what they really want. This is why both parties
want this somehow magically. This will prohibit the Secretary
of Homeland Security from processing applications for
registered provisional immigrant status. This is the RPi until
the secretary submitted to Congress the notice of
commencement of implementation of the comprehensive southern
border security strategy, and the southern border fencing
strategy. So here we go. The comprehensive southern border
security strategy includes the minimum technological
requirements specified, so they're gonna do all kinds of
Get ready as little robots Yeah, get ready for the money, money,
money, money, money, money. The southern border fencing strategy
will include no fewer than 700 miles of pedestrian fencing.
Hello, wall. Thanks, Democrats are fighting Trump on that. But
here's the one, a mandatory employment verification system
to be used by all employers to prevent unauthorized workers
from attaining us employment. They've been trying this for
years, this is your universal ID. This is everyone has to have
one. You can't work without your papers. Without your Shami, your
official ID. This is what they want both parties. In addition,
the mandatory exit data system, another thing they've been
wanting for decades. We want to know when you come in, we want
to know when you leave, we want to stop you from leaving you
slaves. These people are horrible. In addition to that
38,405 new full train full time active duty US Border Patrol
agents, probably for more processing. They don't care.
They want slaves to do to clean your toilet. They want slaves to
look after your kids to look after their own kids. They want
slaves to come in and vote Democrat preferably but they'll
take Republicans will take it. They want you to have papers
they want they are they are just making a big deal a big show.
And they're abusing these these people who had been told to come
on to America. It's great. And and they've done the same thing
in Europe. This thing, this is a global issue. It's and by the
way, it's called the migration replacement strategy. It was
United Nations strategy we you can find it the document in the
show notes implemented in 2000. written up everyone's like,
Okay, this is great. Replacing people in Western countries,
with people from other countries. This has always been
the idea always been the strategy and the EU oil oh,
we're all against it. Yeah, this is no good. But now, now we have
a new deal for the European Union.
Unknown: The content of this compromise today paves the way
for a really a reinforcement of the controls at the borders,
which means that even families comprising children could be put
into closed centers in order for their asylum requests to be
processed. So far, so good. The other thing is that will now be
a eu wide asylum procedure, putting aside all the national
asylum laws, which are taking in which are in effect today. The
other thing is also that there will be and that is the real
stepping stone of this agreement. There will be a
common approach on the solidarity in case of a massive
influx of migrants of solidarity,
Adam Curry: just in case just in case. There's a massive influx
of migrants on the off chance that might happen. They're
planning this on
Unknown: the solidarity in case of a massive influx of migrants,
there will be compulsory solidarity, meaning that EU
member states even those which have no access to an external
border of the EU will have either to taking asylum seekers
have to provide with a financial contribution. financial
agreement has been reached within this compromise. So
Adam Curry: you will take migrants every single country in
the EU doesn't matter when they come in. We are solidarity now
all you got to pay wages to give a pay. This is crazy. The whole
world has gone nuts. And that
Unknown: is a main point here. The point being obviously this
is a trade in a trade off. The other point being that the
external borders are going to be heavily reinforced.
Adam Curry: So it's it's come on in everybody. Come on over,
you'll be able to find lots of countries where you will be
placed. This is the elites they don't care.
John C Dvorak: The safe mobility they're not doing this in Asia
by any means. No, even though they could because China's
having a population issue with the aging public. So what do
they hope to accomplish? What's what is the what is the endgame
here? Okay, just to replace all whities with everything under
the sun and then enslave them because the I guess the what the
the Texas hill country folk won't be rode do what they're
told. We
Adam Curry: go back to the former New York banker. Every
single person they can add, they can print more money, they want
to print more money, they want universal basic income. And yes,
they want obedient workers obedient workers. Of course,
keep the cost down of everything, keep people
obedient, keep them in limbo for as long as possible. And, and we
beat China as long as we've we've already we've already
castrated our children. We've scared everybody with climate
change. We have to keep growing. So we might as well get someone
in the United Nations Office of immigration migration has a safe
mobility initiative. And they will help you they and you can
sign right up on the website. We have Cubans Haitians,
Venezuelans in Colombia if you if you want to travel safely and
lawfully to the United States, we have a program for that
Nicaraguan Venezuelan nationals in Costa Rica. If you got there
before June 12. We can help you move safely into the United
States of Costa Rica. Then we have Cubans Haitians
Nicaraguans, Venezuelans Colombians in Ecuador on or
before October 18 2023. No problem we'll bring you in
Guatemala nationals if you're in Guatemala, we can help you
travel safely and lawfully to the United States. These are our
own people against us. Yeah, and I know it sounds
counterintuitive, but they're they just see us all as pawns
peons you know as numbers. So yes, that's the idea.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's enlightening report. Lift a for
Christmas spirit, your Christmas spirit must be flying high.
Adam Curry: So along with this, of course, we have to my
Christmas spirit is is very high. Along with this comes, you
know, the obvious we have to make everything about the the
far right. This is this, this whole thing is very irksome. The
far right of everything is the far right. And me see the news
agents. So this was the report in in the UK, the news ages, I'd
like this podcast. These are very well established, very well
known mainstream journalists. And they do their own podcast
very popular. What's the name of it? The news agents. We've
talked about it before. The news agency is huge, very popular
podcast. And they're the people who have interviewed all the
heads of state and to do kind of like a newsroom type thing. So
now here it is. The news agents investigate the rise of the far
right.
Unknown: News agents investigates.
My comments no surprise for the far right have won the elections
in Italy. The
Prime Minister of Hungary Viktor Orban has secured a fourth
consecutive landslide election victory. Europe's
nationalist wave has arrived in Spain.
Marine LePen has perhaps never been as close to power. The
latest polls indicate
this year's poll has been shaken up by a surge in popularity of
the Euro skeptic and for right Sweden and democratic movement.
Something is stirring across Europe during tonic change to
our politics to where the balance of our politics sits.
From the Netherlands to Italy to France to Germany to Ireland,
the UK, Hungary beyond radical Both elements of the right even
far right once consigned to the fringes of political life, our
growing growing number in Parliament's in power, we are
not just for power, the sort of power you get from winning
elections, though they're winning plenty of those. It's
the power to shape how we think the power to channel the online
world, the power to move the center of political debate, to
the point where they don't even seem extreme anymore, that they
become normal or mainstream when they're neither. On this episode
of the news agents investigate the rise of the far right, the
collapse of the center. Why liberal democracy is under
siege. It's
Adam Curry: under siege. How about this? How about was this a
John C Dvorak: good podcast? It sounds like a melodramatic piece
of crap. Well,
Adam Curry: depends on who's listening to it. Yeah. But these
this is the establishment that's what you're hearing the
establishment is is incensed that out they outraged we can't
believe the far right is, you know, like normal people who are
like, Hey, we're sick of this crap. We're sick of it. We're
sick of it. We don't want it anymore. We're sick of all of
you. And then you get the fringe far, right? Yeah. Now, they'll
fight it every single step of the way. Of course, there's just
it's, it's these
John C Dvorak: these is what was once called useful idiots.
During the communist era, they're still out there doing
the bidding of people that whose whose best interest they're not
in the best interest of the people actually doing these
sorts of reporting. In other words, you know, you're selling
yourself out. Yeah, for all practical purposes with some of
this bull crap. And if Okay,
Adam Curry: and of course, when it comes to immigration, we we
can't leave out former President Trump. Because remember, he is
Hitler. Because because it worked so well in 2015, calling
him Hitler that really stopped people from voting for him. So
let's do it again. Now, we do have a little twist, because
President Trump is now explaining he splaining what
he's meant by poisoning of the blood. He's changed it to point
poisoning the country. But I mean, come on people, former
Unknown: President Trump continues to use fascist
language, that dehumanizes immigrants. Here's what he said
last night in Iowa.
We have no idea who any of them are. They come from Africa. They
come from Asia. They come from South America. And it's true
that destroying the blood of our country, that's what they're
doing. They're destroying our country. They don't like it when
I said that. And I never read minecon they sit in a much
different way. Now they're coming from all over the world,
people all over the world. We have no idea. They could be
healthy, they could be very unhealthy. They could bring in
disease that's going to catch on in our country, but they do
bring in crime. But they have him coming from all over the
world. And they're destroying the blood of our country that
destroying the fabric of our country. And we're gonna have to
get him out.
Adam Curry: He's a fascist, fascist language, which
according to Jake Tapper is doing something completely
different. What else works so well in 20 with throughout his
entire presidency, was another thing that the media did.
Russia. Was it Russia? I think it was Russia. Let's see if we
can be
John C Dvorak: Russia's involved. Yeah, I
Adam Curry: think Hello.
Unknown: Listen to this. Hello. I'm Jake Tapper in Washington,
where the state of our union is frankly, stunned. Stop watching
the leading Republican presidential candidate Donald
Trump. quote one of our nation's foremost adversaries Oh, no,
remember Putin as a sort of character witness while on the
stock in New Hampshire last
Adam Curry: night. Oh, no.
Unknown: of Russia says that Biden's and this is a quote
politically motivated persecution of his political
rival is very good for Russia because it shows the rottenness
of the American political system, which cannot pretend to
teach others about democracy.
One might think such a point need not be made. But what?
Adam Curry: What Jake Tapper, okay, he's right, but you don't
have to say it out loud.
Unknown: Wow. One might think such a point need not be made.
But, but Lattimer Putin, a former KGB official. Besides
with American He's a war criminal adversaries both
rhetorically and with arms, and who right now has at least two
Americans Evan Grishko. Butch and Paul Whelan unjustly
detained. Vladimir Putin is not a credible source of information
about American democracy know much less American
jurisprudence. Vladimir Putin seeks to undermined the United
States and its allies, whether in Europe or Asia or the Middle
East. He's undermining. Despite this or maybe by now because of
it, I can no longer tell. Mr. Trump stands poised to do very
well in the Republican Iowa caucuses on January 15. In less
than a month he has only expanded his lead
Adam Curry: go unless unless he gets kicked off of the ballot in
Colorado. This This really makes us look good internationally.
This is good. This thing people in in Colorado Are you Are you
not a little mad about this?
John C Dvorak: Hey there bunch of Democrats Colorado's
ridiculously blue, I have a mini cut of the Colorado some some
people talking heads discussing this.
Unknown: This is not a crazy thing for democracy to do. It's
very much like the reasoning of the conservative legal
community.
The conservatives on the Supreme Court who usually go on and on
and on about states rights are
hypocrites. He was an enemy of the Constitution, simply a plain
reading of the US Constitution.
This is not partisan. This is about applying historic
principles. What do you say
to the to the Republican candidates argument that
this should be the voters should have the say and
not the courts?
Adam Curry: Why are you standing with Confederate veterans
Unknown: betrayed this country?
Adam Curry: Oh, that's great. Okay, I got a couple of clips
here. This is MSNBC filed
Unknown: from the historic Colorado Supreme Court ruling
continues this morning. One day after the panel of judges there
ruled that Donald Trump was disqualified from the state's
2024 primary ballot because of his role in the January 6 attack
on the Capitol. President Biden made his first remarks about the
decision in the lock yesterday. The President initially refused
to comment. But he did say this when asked if Trump supported an
insurrection?
Well, I think it's self evident whether the fortune five will
have to coordinate that decision, but he certainly
supported insurrection. And no question about zero seems to be
doubling down on anyway. I've got to go through this.
Adam Curry: Anyway, I gotta go see if I can walk up the steps
from our constitutional lawyer technical analysis, which is
always handy to have so you can look smarter the water cooler.
The Colorado Supreme Court has stayed its decision ie put it on
ice, because it knows Trump will seek cert to your certiorari,
certiorari, which I think is something from Star Trek. The
State last through January 4 2024. But it automatically
extends if Trump files a cert petition, which he said he will
do. Once the petition is on file. It remains in place until
the Supreme Court of the US either denies the cert or
accepts the case and rules on the merits. Our constitutional
lawyer says I think Trump is likely to persuade four justices
to grant cert. But who knows if he does, then the state will
remain in place as long as the case remains pending. Meanwhile,
the Colorado Secretary of State must keep Trump on the primary
ballot. The primary happens March 5 2024. So if Trump can
run the clock out for two and a half months, and if the Supreme
Court of the US grants assert, which seems likely he can render
the whole thing moot, the Colorado Supreme Court justices
likely foresaw this and just wanted to get their thoughts on
paper. So again, performative nothing to worry about nothing
to see here. But of course, we have New York trying to do this
a couple other states. These people are stupid. Do they think
that this will not only make people more for Trump?
John C Dvorak: They don't understand the mechanism. This
Adam Curry: they certainly don't they think, but this is kind of
the arrogance of the elites in our country. But you know, we
know how to do the legal system. People in America are sick and
tired of the legal system. They're sick and tired of the
IRS. They're sick and tired of being badgered sick and tired of
everything and then you just got to get this guy back in office.
And then trust me the Republicans are going to cheat
like crazy this election they're gonna cheat cheat cheat like
everyone else tell everybody
John C Dvorak: the both sides are gonna cheat. Of course they
change who's the better cheater I still think is the Democrats.
I think they're more competent at it they have more machinery
they had the machine it was called a machine machine you're
talking about the machine in Chicago for example always gets
Democrats in it says the machine is literally a machine is
mechanism that works to get these votes into the into play
Adam Curry: here is that I have two clips here. an expert's an
American expert explains the 14th amendment on France 24. The
14th
Unknown: amendment was passed in the wake of the Civil War, which
as a Everybody, more or less nose was fought between the
states in the war succession. It's literally called in the
French translation of it, because half the country, more
or less the southern states wanted to secede from the Union,
because they objected to notably the institution of slavery being
banned at the federal level. So after that, when the cut when
the North one in the country was reunified, the South was
considered traitorous. They were insurrectionists. I mean, these
very people that were now seeking to come back into public
office, were had had been literally killing Union soldiers
and civilians during the war. And they had been proclaiming
that there should no longer be a United States, at least that
they wanted to be part of in the way that was envisioned in the
constitution. So this was a huge issue. And the Congress led the
efforts to pass a constitutional amendment, the 14th Amendment,
which has several sections, but the one we're talking about
here, section three notably says, Look, if you have this,
you know, that's what it says, look into the one we're talking
about here. Section three notably says, Look, if you have
previously been an official, in the United States government and
sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution, and then violated
that constitution, you cannot return to government. So in
other words, Jefferson Davis, for example, who was the
president of the Confederacy, had he had it in his mind, of
course, at the time, that would have been considered crazy, but
say he had taken it in his head to become president united
states and run against Lincoln or Ulysses S Grant or whoever,
he would have been banned by this provision. And in fact,
several people running for Congress were banned by it. So
this is what we're talking about. This is the provision of
the Constitution that's at issue here.
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry, actually, actually slightly
wrong. Of course, most analysis course it's slightly wrong,
which is that you can run as the President's not not,
Adam Curry: he's not mentioned the President is not mentioned.
And so as I say, sort
John C Dvorak: of what could happen, you know, Jefferson
Davis, or whoever it was, could could actually run for
presidency
Adam Curry: here. I have one more. This is an analysis from
Mike Davis. He is from the Article Three project, which who
knew, who knew, all of a sudden there's an art and he's on the
Steve Bannon war room, so says enough,
Unknown: and they just decreed that that President Trump
somehow committed an insurrection. And so therefore,
they're gonna throw him off the ballot. And that is not what the
controlling case law says. It's very clear if you want to
disqualify an officer of the United States, based upon
insurrection or rebellion, you have to charge him under the
federal criminal statute for insurrection or rebellion passed
pursuant to section three of the 14th Amendment back in 1869. You
have to have a grand jury indict a jury unanimously convicts with
evidence beyond a reasonable doubt find guilty with evidence
beyond the reasonable doubt. The judge has to convict and that
conviction has to be upheld on appeal. That is the only way you
can disqualify under section three of the 14th Amendment. The
Supreme Court of the United States needs to not take Jack
Smith cert before judgment case, which is just complete nonsense.
And they need to save room on their dockets. For this Colorado
Supreme Court case.
Adam Curry: It's all bull crap. So it's totally stupid. None of
this will get through another. So
John C Dvorak: going, going back to your, your wonderment as to
what are these people? Are they fooling themselves to think that
this isn't going to backfire? I want to play I have very short
like 17 second clip, which might give you some indication of
where these people are at this is airy Melber Gah,
Adam Curry: Ari Ari, Barry Silbert the newest model who
quotes Hip Hop lyrics. And so
John C Dvorak: just see if you can catch the little little
indicator within this very short. This is just a clip of a
clip, just saving cash the indicator in here that these
people are delusional, vacant,
Unknown: if past is prologue, then Kevin McCarthy's very
recent past shows you both where the Republican Party is headed
and many people think potentially into a wall if it
has no adjustment process for what remains a very unpopular
and indicted former president.
Adam Curry: Well, I have no idea what he just said.
John C Dvorak: He's just yakking away about somebody but he's,
but he says he's talking about the Republican Party's
direction. And he says they're hitting a wall because they're
they're backing a very unpopular listen to it again. He says a
very unpopular former president vacant
Unknown: if past is prologue. Then Kevin McCarthy's very
recent past shows you both were the Republic One party is headed
and many people think, potentially into a wall if it
has no adjustment process for what remains a very unpopular
and indicted former president.
Adam Curry: And indicted you forgot to mention that and that
in indicted, yes, TWICE, TWICE impeached, he's usually he
missed a whole bunch of stuff. But
John C Dvorak: he was it's but it's just as delusional vision
of the world. That is that the entire crew at MSNBC, CNN and,
and a lot of the news media that print media in particular,
they're all this way. And they're now they're coming out
of the woodwork. I don't, I could probably I should have
gotten some clips of this. But they had a classic PBS newshour
situation where there were the news media had the editor of The
Atlantic and then to counterbalance him they had New
York College in New York. I can't remember the name of this
journal erosion was Jay Rosen, Jay Rosen, and this guy, there's
no balance whatsoever, no other side there. And they're both
advocating, which I've been seeing tons of on social media,
all these journalists saying it's time we we can't be
objective anymore. Because our democracy is at risk. We must
stop this nonsense of objectivity when no democracy is
at risk. And we must, we must express our opinion. We talked
about this in the last show a little bit. And this has gotten
out of control, because these people are completely insane.
Adam Curry: And that's it. They they come from a place which was
not that long ago, where and I would say this is part of the
reason for the anger with Elon Musk. They come from a place
where they controlled the message. And they they truly
that journalist in particular, they felt they were in control.
We determined what you know, we're New York Times that you
can see the arrogance of of the reporters and what's that?
What's that dipshits name? Lorenz Taylor Lorenz, you know,
the minute someone got on her face, she starts crying. Now,
because we are in control of the message you we know better, we
know better. We're the elites. And they've promised
John C Dvorak: they're not the elites, to journalists of this
country or anything, but the elites, they're just their pass
through. useful idiots pass through stooges.
Adam Curry: stooges pass through stooges. Yeah, so so. And, but
of course, when everything's out of control, we know everything's
out of control. There's, there's no one's in charge anymore. It's
every man for himself on x. Everybody's fighting and yelling
and everyone knows better and just there because everyone
thinks oh, you know, if if Trump becomes president, that goes
with democracy and the other side if Trump becomes president,
he'll fix everything. Yeah. Dream on. Yeah. Dream on your
will be of course, no, of course not. And then as a as the big
meme, the big meme, everybody hears the big meme. Oh, yeah.
You know what? They're all afraid. We may
Unknown: soon learn the identities of more people
connected to Jeffrey Epstein and more than 150 names, which were
previously withheld. They include witnesses and victims in
the civil case against Carlene Maxwell, who is currently
serving 20 years in prison for being Epstein's accomplice in
sex trafficking. The list also includes some of Epstein's
former employees. Epstein, a wealthy and well connected
financier was indicted in 2019. For a scheme of involving
underage girls. He later took his own life in jail before he
could be tried. I wonder
how many men Michelle was sitting at home right now going
overload? And women Yeah, and women to women as well. It's a
terrible story.
Adam Curry: Now that was interesting. That was
interesting that she threw in the women thing this is Gail.
You know, because we're, we can probably expect Oprah to be on
this list if anything ever gets published if if if if the as
Oprah was was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, too. And then
so this this colleague throws in and women, Gail, then women just
so you know. What, what is this? What is this list of clients
what does that mean? client doesn't
John C Dvorak: mean anything up I don't know why they don't
publish the list. Just let let let it hit the fan. And so what
it doesn't prove anything. I mean, this like the Yeah, and I
I'm not one here too. We got to Bill Gates doesn't need my help
to defend himself. But this latest thing always was there's
a picture of him with some am woman. And so I went back and I
said picture with it. Sorry, there was actually an article.
In a Russian I think that's buttoning, but one of the
Russian magazines with Bill Gates with a bunch of different
women, many of them Epstein, women, but it's just like, I
didn't want to say that he did this or that. And I suspect he
probably had some fun with a couple of them. But you can't
prove anything. If you're a celebrity at that. Like if
you're a multi billionaire, one of the richest people in the
world, people are gonna want to have their picture taken with
you. Yes. Lots of them. You could there's probably 1000s of
people that Bill couldn't identify in a million years.
Always cozied up next to him. Women, men, ladies, girls,
everything in between
Adam Curry: knowing why you know what it shows above all,
particularly this airplane and when I hear RFK Jr. Like, yeah,
you know, my wife at the time thing was Mary. She was friends
with Jess lane. And we have these people they're like, hey,
oh, you need a ride. Just take my jet. When have you gotten
that offer? was last time someone said to you Hey, John.
Oh, you need to go visit just grab my jet no problem. They're
in a club that we are very far from
John C Dvorak: I know people in that club and I don't know that
they do that.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, there's there's courtesies like because
jets are I
John C Dvorak: think at the high end if you have a jet and I have
a jet then you swap each other's jets I get it's like the people
who go friend of mine was is involved with these kind of
circles where people Oh, come on over. Come to the mansion out
the Hamptons. We got a room for you can stay for a month.
Adam Curry: I'll send the jet.
John C Dvorak: Jet. Now that's a little Okay. Well, we were
definitely not in that category. No,
Adam Curry: we're not. We're not in the mansion state dimension
category either. No,
John C Dvorak: no, you want to stay at the house. Maybe for a
day. Can't you find a hotel? Something new? You
Adam Curry: wouldn't even let me see your office when I came
John C Dvorak: to visit? The office is off limits limits.
Yeah, so that's kind of when anyone putting a bug in this
office. That's the reason
Adam Curry: that's me. Oh, yeah. But you don't trust me your
partner for 16 years? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: you gotta get your line somewhere. Meanwhile,
Adam Curry: no one talks about the FDIC parties. You've been
following that story, which won, that the FDIC under leadership
of Chairman Greenberg, that this does go back a couple of years.
John C Dvorak: But he talked about FDIC price some time ago.
Adam Curry: Well, new reports of misconduct. In 2020, the
agency's inspector general published a report of sexual
harassment that revealed that at least 191 FDIC employees
experienced sexual harassment between January of 2015 and
April of 2019. This included let me see I have some of these
here. They had parties and people be groping each other.
No, go to the party. You can't but it's the FDIC. This is a
government
John C Dvorak: makes no sense. It was like you know, Nepal
autonomous operation which had a bunch of sexual harassment for
the women against men. Yeah. And against the other women. Yeah,
yeah.
Adam Curry: We're just, well, these
John C Dvorak: people are bored. Let's face it. Now that this
already is invite parties invite this sort of behavior. I hate to
tell you.
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, x x is under Investec. subrogation.
Elon
Unknown: Musk's social media platform x the former Twitter is
now under investigation by the European Union. The EU says it's
focused on whether the company has done enough to stop the
spread of illegal content illegal first and such
investigation under new regulations aimed at hate speech
and misinformation. Yes,
Adam Curry: that Europe is going well everybody the hate speech
and misinformation is on deck in Europe. I gotta get my daughter
out of there. I'm gonna have to talk to her about this.
John C Dvorak: She really does she enjoy living in Rotterdam
it's a it's a you know a nice country beautiful place you mean
where
Adam Curry: the where they had terrorists. They arrested ready
to kill Jews that that Rotterdam.
John C Dvorak: You have terror terrorists arrested ready to
kill Jews in this country?
Adam Curry: Well, there you go.
John C Dvorak: Don't move to New York, whatever you do.
Adam Curry: We should probably talk about that for a second
here tonight.
Unknown: The Israeli military says the three hostages were
mistakenly killed by Israeli forces had escaped from Hamas
five days earlier. After Israeli soldiers killed their captors in
a firefight with Molly Donald's the army says they've since
analyzed Camera on a military dog at the scene. recorded the
hostage dogs.
Adam Curry: They had a camera on a military dog
John C Dvorak: yeah if I'm working in the field and I gotta
have a camera on me I say what? Where's the dog? Let's put the
camera on the dog. I don't need to have this camera on me here
Phoebe, you go check it out a camera
Unknown: on a military dog at the scene. The hostages voices.
They were later mistakenly shot by Israeli soldiers while
holding a white flag. Their deaths increasing the pressure
in Israel to pause the fighting and strike a deal to get the
rest of the hostages out the President today. Well,
fortunately, there's no expectation at this point. But
we are pushing Secretary of State Tony Blinken today blaming
Hamas I hear
virtually no one's saying demanding from us that it stop
hiding behind civilians. That it lay down his arms. That is
surrender. Yeah, man is over tomorrow. No, if a moss does
that,
Mr. Prime Minister Netanyahu vowing to continue the war until
Hamas is eliminated. Israel is now allowing aid into Gaza
through a second crossing. But the US and aid groups say it's
not nearly enough. I'm
Adam Curry: going to give everybody the sad truth of
what's happening here. But all this talk about pause and
ceasefire and Hamas has to say, No, Israel, the IDF, they're
going to rub allies, the entire Gaza, all of it. And when
they're done with that they're going to go and rub allies in
the North for Hezbollah, they're not stopping. All of this is
just just fodder to keep everybody talking and hoping and
walking around with flags. But they're going it's over. They
are not going to stop. I have lots of acquaintances and
friends in Israel, the ear, the parents of those of those
basically be young young men who were killed. They're out there
saying, you know, it's horrible, but we don't blame the IDF. We
understand what happened. And then you can come to my house
and I'll give you dinner at any point. The people are so fed up
with this. They want they want what Netanyahu is doing. They
want it. It's not going to stop but there's
John C Dvorak: a lot of protesting going on in Israel.
So I think there's a divided population as to some want it
some don't go a political
Adam Curry: protests. Yeah, against Netanyahu. Yeah. Yeah.
Well,
John C Dvorak: well, let's go to that brings us as we're
discussing this area, I do want to discuss a little bit about
the Houthis.
Adam Curry: Yes, yeah, this is this is heating up. I'm like, so
there's no better
John C Dvorak: and I have my certain complaints of course.
Yes, obviously. So I do have a three by three. Oh, you want to
do that first? Yeah, right off the bat.
Unknown: And now it's time for a three by three. Experiment
Adam Curry: by Jesse comparing stories from the the scenes. The
never ending, right? He's got the stories, the headlines, the
big three networks. This is where we break it down. We see
what the script is and we find out what is bold and what is
more bully. Here we go with a three by three.
John C Dvorak: You know, the funny thing is you can really
see the script in this group of three because it's as if they're
in the same newsroom. The structure of the three stories
is almost identical and makes no sense. And let's start with
Richard Engel at NBC. The cargo
Unknown: giant Maersk joined BP in halting traffic through the
Red Sea in response to attacks by the Iranian backed Yemeni
militia, known as the Houthi was hijacked and fired on several
ships. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin in Bahrain today, home of
the US Fifth Fleet announced the formation of a 10 nation
coalition to defend the Red Sea. But the Houthis vowed to keep
attacking ships until Israel ends its blockade of Gaza. The
showdown sending oil prices up again today, while the
Palestinian Islamic Jihad tonight put out a video of two
Israeli men it's holding hostage. Yesterday, Hamas
released a video of three elderly hostages taken under
duress. the Gaza Strip is at a breaking point as Israel attacks
Hamas, a group say 2.3 million Palestinians are paying an
unbearable price. The World Health Organization today
described the situation in Gaza as hospitals as beyond belief
and unconscionable.
Richard, what do we know about where the ceasefire talks down
right now? They
are fragile Lester, but advancing with Qatar reporting
progress and multiple ports that they'll continue tomorrow in
Egypt.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so here's the structure we have the
Houthi, stopping the attacking and just attacking and then
screwing up the red sea transport. And then for some
reason, unknown to me, they jumped to the hostages, huh? And
then they finish the story with the discussion of this a
mishmash report. And in there somewhere there was the Bahrain,
I didn't realize that we kept our ships there in Bahrain. So
that's a little point that will show up in another report. So
let's go to let's move on to ABC with I'd say the report from the
same newsroom tonight.
Unknown: We're also following the new attacks are rotting and
backed militants taking aim yet again. On commercial ships in
the Red Sea. It comes just hours after the US announced it was
now leading an international naval task force with several
nations. Tonight,
Iran backed Houthi rebels in Yemen, to more attacks on
commercial ships in the Red Sea. Just as the US announced a naval
task force to counter the threat the US joining nine countries to
escort vessels passing through the crucial trade route after
major companies including oil giant BP paused operations.
Bottom line is these attacks have to stop. They need to stop.
They're unacceptable. The United States our allies and our
partners will do what we have to do to counter these threats and
to protect these ships. But the
Houthi is vowing further attacks in retaliation for Israel's war
in Gaza. And David another hostage video release tonight
these images showing Gaddy Moses and Elijah Cassia, who were
kidnapped on October 7, and tonight a Prime Minister
Netanyahu met with hostage families saying their release is
his highest mission.
John C Dvorak: So there we go. Again, the same interesting
report goes from the Houthis to Oh, why did you stop shooting at
us? Two hostages. So okay,
Adam Curry: whatever this is meant to meant to focus you on
the on, like, well,
John C Dvorak: I don't know what to be honest about it. So
unfocused itself I don't say I can make anyone focus on
anything. So here we go to CBS with another one and they're
always a little bit of always give a little more twist, they
got a little more information than the other networks.
Unknown: Some of the world's biggest shipping and oil
companies are now rerouting their vessels away from the Red
Sea after brazen attacks like this one by Iranian backed
Houthi rebels. A dozen ships attacked in just the past month
the Navy destroyer USS Carney has been shooting down drones
and missiles launched from Houthi controlled territory in
Yemen in support of Palestinians in the Gaza war. 10 to 15% of
global trade normally passes through worth an estimated $1
trillion. Fearing Houthi attacks, ships are turning off
transponders hiring armed guards and several companies are
sailing around Africa a pain consumers will feel
we've launched Operation prosperity guardian
in the region defense secretary Lloyd
Adam Curry: who makes up these code names this is a dumb one
prosperity guardian. Call us call us people
Unknown: will fix you up tumors will feel
we've launched Operation prosperity guardian
Adam Curry: can we come up with a better name John. But anything
but this like hell to the Houthis no Hellfire on Houthi is
anything but prosperity Guardian rumors will feel
Unknown: we've launched Operation prosperity guardian.
In the region, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced a new
task force to try to stop Houthi attacks as a 10. Country
military alliance with the intent to grow. So far, the only
country from the Middle East to sign on is the tiny nation of
Bahrain, in Gaza, Israel's bombardment continues with
nearly 20,000 people now killed says Gaza, Hamas run health
ministry. And just hours ago, militants in Gaza released two
more videos of hostages. And this is the second such release.
That comes as leaders from both Israel and Hamas are signaling
they are open to a new pause. And a new hostage really steel.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: same exact structures, all three stories as
if they're all working together. So somebody is somebody, there's
an overlord telling you how to do these things, obviously, and
they're doing a poor job. I mean, the media is corrupt. And
so you have and there's the mention of Bahrain, as the which
was where we keep our ships. So yeah, they're gonna join in
because we give a lot of money to the post our Navy. So they're
on board. But here's a couple of things that crop up this show.
By the way, I have one more clip date. Here's what shows up. In
my mind. One, Bahrain is the only one who joins in with this
with a kind of a program to stop the Houthis. What about Saudi
Arabia? They're at war with the Houthis. Why are they in on
this? Simple question. So no, no, we're not. No, we're not.
No, no. The second thing is, again, I'll say it again. I said
on every show, we have satellites, there's no clouds
over over Yemen. Did we have satellites right over showing
exactly where those missiles are coming from we could bomb the
crap out of those sites and ended it that because we're
bombing Somalia as we speak well but
Adam Curry: how about this maybe you want the oil price to go up
a little bit
John C Dvorak: you think that might be part of it I'm have a
feeling they oil prices go up yeah because hasn't gone up for
any other reason so there's something you know there might
be something that that there's something there there allow in
other words the point they're allowing this this is being
allowed. There's no way if they didn't want it to happen that
they would just not bomb the crap out of
Adam Curry: the bomb everybody else. Yeah, we know but no, not
these guys. There's
John C Dvorak: two things they can do. One one they're allowing
it to is giving some of the destroyers some of our ships
target practice so we can see what it takes to shoot down
drones. Get one
Adam Curry: of the trolls had a good point. Get the oil price
all jacked up. Then have Joe come out and mumble something
and then you know let it go down.
John C Dvorak: Well, it's gonna go down anyway. Yeah, Joe's
gonna do it.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Well, no, he's not but it's all theory.
The
John C Dvorak: idea is you mumble something mumble
something and then it then the the social media goes nuts.
Joe's saved us. So I do have one report that kind of is probably
more valuable than those three, put together get reports on
three exact same network. This is the Houthi threat. This is a
NTD
Unknown: the leader of the Yemeni Houthis vows to retaliate
if Washington takes aim at Yemen. This is as the US is
spearheading a multinational coalition to interrupt Houthi
attacks against cargo ships passing through the Red Sea. So,
before any American targeting our country will be targeted by
us and we will make American battleships interests and
navigation a target for our missiles, drones and military
operations. The
Iran backed group has been escalating missile strikes
against vessels sailing through the Red Sea in an attempt to
show support for Hamas terrorists amid the Israel Hamas
war. Those strikes are forcing ships to either cancel transit
or reroute to Africa, which is causing gas and shipping prices
to rise. The US love security pact joined by nine other
countries plans to ramp up patrol in the Red Sea to deter
and respond to future Houthi attacks.
Adam Curry: To all of these reports include the one name
which I've been tracking, which is Iran or Iran. And so what I'm
most curious about is is is this going to be the precursor do is
this excuse me time to go on bom bom bom bom bom Moran. And I can
tell you no and and the reason I know is because General Frank
McKenzie came on the PBS news hour to discuss the Red Sea
crisis.
Unknown: We return now to the conflict in the Middle East and
rising tensions in the Red Sea. We're about 12% of the world's
global trade passes through and where Houthi militias in Yemen
have been attacking ships. The Houthi say their attacks are in
support of the Palestinians. Yesterday, US Defense Secretary
Lloyd Austin announced a new multinational effort to protect
ships in the region. But how will that work? For that we turn
to former commander of US forces in the Middle East, retired
General Frank McKenzie. He's now the executive director of the
global and national security Institute at the University of
South Florida.
Adam Curry: Yeah, beautiful. We got a spokes hole, everybody. So
explain who are these Houthis help
Unknown: our audience understand first who are the Houthis? And
why exactly are they attacking commercial ships.
The Houthis are a proxy of Iran. And they've seized governmental
control and a coup in Yemen several years ago. They've been
largely responsible for the mass starvation in the country. And
with Iran, they pursue a policy for the destruction of Israel.
They're not completely under the direct control of Iran. But Iran
provides their equipment provides the resourcing and all
their supplies, but they're not directly at the beck and call of
ran in this matter. The Houthis have wanted to attack Israel,
it's very hard for them to arrange Israel proper. So
they've settled on instead, trying to cut off communication
of maritime shipping in the in the Bab el Mandeb area down at
the southern end of the Red Sea. So
Adam Curry: the more I hear these people talk about the
Houthis, the more I think they work for us. I mean, this this,
this whole thing stinks to high hell, let's look let's talk
about the task force.
Unknown: And as we mentioned, the US announced this creation
of this Multinational Task Force to Protect commercial traffic
through the Red Sea. Why is
Adam Curry: it called a task force? The fact that they call
it a task force is like blame. Now how about attack force or
defense force? Defense Force would be better anything but
Task Force? That's something the marketing department does in
your company. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: task force we attack for
Unknown: how exactly will that work and in your estimation will
it be enough to deter future attacks,
the ships will be important, we will provide ships, our friends
and partners will provide ships and those warships that will be
out there, shepherding the merchant vessels, three will be
very important. But what will be equally important will be the
intelligence architecture that we put over the Bab el Mandeb.
You need to see what's going on. You do that through man patrol
aircraft, unmanned aircraft, drones, all kinds of other
intelligence gathering systems to actually see what the Houthis
are up to money, money, money, money. And this also has another
effect. And we know for many years of dealing with Iran, they
don't like to be observed. It can have been a tearing effect
in 2019. Our heavy use of ISR intelligence, surveillance and
reconnaissance assets around the Strait of Hormuz prevented the
Iranians from carrying out nefarious attacks may or may not
be enough with the Houthi they tend to be very aggressive. I
think at some point we're probably going to have to
consider that
John C Dvorak: they've been at war for I don't know what is it
10 years now Saudi Arabia, they're all this bull crap this.
You're right. This is a crock of crap from the get go. And
they're doing this. And by the way, their dough is going to
talk about this guy had a clip of that I don't didn't bring it
along, which is the price of insurance for the ships going
through the Red Sea has gone up tenfold. Yeah, to the point
where this never mentioned to the point where it's actually
still super expensive to drive all the way around the African
tip, but cheaper to do that and pay for the insurance. And so
nobody's going through the Red Sea. This is a set definitely a
way to jack up prices. Yes.
Adam Curry: And to maybe maybe Orwell was inflation, but that's
because of the Houthis meant something like that. Yeah.
Houthi inflation, Houthi inflation Houthi
John C Dvorak: no one's good. That's too hard to sell. For,
they call the call it system name for the organization to
begin with, but
Adam Curry: they'll call it a supply chain here. The what's
the future of big business?
Unknown: BP is now the latest company to announce it's going
to be pausing shipments through the Red Sea, as we mentioned,
with so much global trade going through that area. What does
that mean for the future of big business?
Well, I think if we're unable to reestablish and reassert the
route of free passage here and keep the Houthis in making these
attacks, everything's going to slow down is 14 more days to go
around Africa to come up either east or west. And that will tend
to exert greater pressure on the market, probably the energy
energy market first, but other markets as well. So it's in
everyone's interest, every nation that moves on the global
commons actually has an interest in ensuring that the Bab el
Mandeb is going to be open for the ride of free passenger
ships. The
Adam Curry: Houthi price hike. You never know. Final, final
clip here. Talk to us about the region. I mean, we have to
understand the region what's going on in the region. As you
Unknown: mentioned, the Houthis are an Iranian proxy, what does
all of this suggest about the potential for Israel's war
against Hamas to escalate into a wider regional con region?
I think the odds of the escalation beyond Gaza are
actually fairly small right now, Lebanese, Hezbollah has not
chosen to enter the fray, despite the fact they're
exchanging low levels of fire with Israel on its northern
border. Iran has not chosen to directly attack Israel. Those
are important things that have perhaps been overlooked. Hamas
is not getting a lot of support from those two entities. Now,
the Houthis are, but again, as I said, the Houthis have limited
ability actually, to strike Israel, they were reduced, you
know, to carrying out attacks down around the Bab el Mandeb.
And they are doing that, but I believe that's a problem we can
solve. We may need to be a little more aggressive about it
than we've been today. But I believe that's a solvable
problem. But the larger issue is, I don't think it leads to
escalation.
Adam Curry: Okay, so no escalation. It's a scam. By
obviously,
John C Dvorak: you know, the idea that the Houthi is might be
working on our behalf is an interesting one says, you know,
people are getting killed left and right. With them. Shipping
has been stopped when money goes around. But
Adam Curry: wouldn't it make sense since we had to sell all
the boats, we sold all of that war machine material, and we
paid for a lot of the defense of Saudi Arabia in Yemen, of the
two T's and the Houthi so the Houthis were hitting our allies
and we need war there so that we can make more war stuff and now
it's just more war. It's like, oh, like this looks as another
opportunity.
John C Dvorak: So yeah, while inopportune everything's in
opportunity.
Adam Curry: Why wouldn't you have those guys be on our
payroll? Hey, crank it up, boys. And I remain the men that when I
saw them land on that ship,
John C Dvorak: with the with the Houthi the Houthi banderas yeah
with with the GoPro the body cams was the first person I
know. Let's say stage they
Adam Curry: got the helicopter landing and then went dump an
app that was very staged that was that was production edited
nicely put together, put it out there.
John C Dvorak: Why didn't we do anything about it the helicopter
flying around by itself nobody cares. Yeah, we got all kinds of
gunships and everything in between on float around in a
helicopter, through
Adam Curry: the Houthi heli is on the loose, no worries
John C Dvorak: at all. And we didn't know Oh, you didn't even
see it. But, you know, we got satellites all over the place.
Give me a break,
Adam Curry: you know, one of Tina's friends. You know, she
listens to the no agenda and her I think, millennial daughter, I
have a quote. I, my, my daughter, lecturing me about
Palestine, told me that John and Adam can afford not to take
sides because they're old white men. Like, what does that even
mean? I don't understand. Because, you know, we don't have
to worry about it. You know, but here's something Hello,
children.
John C Dvorak: Nice. Bill. Dad had to wait, wait before you
finish that thought that had to be inculcated, because there has
to be some rationale that these kids are fed because that sounds
like something you'd say, without thinking. In other
words, you were brainwashed into saying that it says it's like,
because there's no thought is in a statement like that.
Adam Curry: It's part of colonialism, I think. Okay,
John C Dvorak: well, yeah, that's what it is. I've always
been a colonialist.
Adam Curry: That's right. You have a very small colony of
sanity in the Berkeley area.
John C Dvorak: Meanwhile, it hasn't Miscavige another meeting
in February at the mallard club.
Adam Curry: I'd love to have some protests for what's
happening in the Congo.
John C Dvorak: Three noble way finish your thought on the on
the girl. No,
Adam Curry: that's what I just that's all the thought I have is
it's it's stupidity. It's been indoctrinated. And and so the
finishing of the thought is while this
Unknown: security and logistical challenges in Congo caused
disruptions in today's presidential election, almost 44
million people were expected to vote amid chaotic conditions.
crowds grew agitated after poll openings were delayed for hours
in the capital city of Kinshasa, and smudged ink on voting cards
slowed the process. As a result, balloting will be extended until
tomorrow.
Adam Curry: So the New York Times has a big article today
called the overlooked crisis in Congo, we live in war. How many
people do you think have have been killed in the past few
years in Congo?
John C Dvorak: Is this the Democratic Republic of the
Congo?
Adam Curry: Yes.
John C Dvorak: I would say how many people in the past year now
Adam Curry: the past couple of years this this has been going
on for a few years?
John C Dvorak: I would say 100,000 6 million. But where's
the protests? The exactly million that's three times the
population of Gaza. 6
Adam Curry: million now lurching into a volatile new phase, that
no one cares. You know why they're black racists. That's
why
John C Dvorak: I bet you no one could identify a Congo flag. No,
Adam Curry: but they can they sure know what a Palestine flag
looks like. Yeah, it's it's, that's that's what gets my goat.
It's like, Please be quiet. You don't care about people. You've
been programmed to say something. That's all this
happening.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they couldn't identify half these
places on a map. No,
Adam Curry: there's that or the Congo is actually pretty easy to
find is big. Just pointed the middle of Africa. You pretty
much I'll hit it. That's about it.
John C Dvorak: Now I have a couple of hooey on international
stuff. I have to I've got a new story category. Oh, okay. I call
WTF news. When you're managing WTF news refers to I have two
stories today. Actually. One of them is not as good as the
other. But WTF news. These are stories that you hear them and
use. And you wonder, did you know this in the least this is
like again from anti D because they they'll report on stuff
that why isn't this on the network's
Adam Curry: on our networks? You mean? Yeah. Okay. We'll find out
as soon as we get to it which story? It will
Unknown: Venezuela turning our attention now to South America,
Venezuela is fraying. 10 jailed Americans and exchange for the
release of Colombian businessman Alex Saab. He was arrested on a
US warrant back in 2020. For funneling some $350 million from
a Venezuelan housing program saw As a close ally of Venezuelan
President Nicolas Maduro, US officials often referred to him
as Maduro as a bag man. As for the released Americans,
according to the White House six among the 10 were wrongfully
detained by the socialist regime, Venezuela will free at
least 20 Venezuelans as well, including political prisoners.
As part of the agreement. Venezuela will also extradite
Leonard Francis, a defense contractor known as fat leonard,
who orchestrated one of the largest bribery schemes in the
history of the US military. The scandal took down nearly two
dozen Navy officials. Francis fled the US ahead of his
scheduled sentencing last year and has since stayed in South
America. It's
Adam Curry: interesting, I had this story,
John C Dvorak: that Leonard fat leonard Yeah, I had the
Adam Curry: fat leonard story. And here's the question I have
with and we said we had an exchange we exchanged the
prisoners. Yeah. And my question is, why are we giving special
preferential treatment to Venezuelan illegal immigrants to
give them work permits when we have this fat leonard deal going
on? Was that part of the deal? Hey, you know what you give us
fat leonard. And we'll have, you know, we'll give 15,000
Venezuelans who have crossed over illegally, we'll give them
work permits.
John C Dvorak: That has to be part of that deal has to be
going on. And I think some of the political prisoners will be
coming up here too. I'm sure of it. And this fat lenders story,
though about taking down like 20 Naval executives, and it was the
biggest scam of bribery scandal in the history of the United
States. I'd never heard of fat leonard seen how does that
happen? With our news media seems
Adam Curry: to me that fat learner needs to be shut up as
what's going on. We need to get that get back here. So we can
like stifle him? Yeah, I think fat when it's a problem.
John C Dvorak: That Lynard fat linens
Adam Curry: Oh, title, writing it down as we speak. Okay. I
have a little bit of AI news, which I'd like to share.
John C Dvorak: I have a follow up clip. Because I have some
thoughts on AI too. Because I were at odds somewhat with
insofar as AI is concerned, even though we have a great AI clip
at the end of the show mix. At least in my opinion. Oh, yes.
Adam Curry: It's not AI. That's actually one of our guys doing
that voice.
John C Dvorak: Well, it's might as well be AI. No, it's the way
I see it. That
Adam Curry: is a tough way to see it. Yeah, it's a talented
person. Do you want it? Do you have something you want to play?
Well,
John C Dvorak: I want to, I want you to play yours first. And
then I'll play my blue lip. Well, I
Adam Curry: have I have a whole setup. Okay, well, let
John C Dvorak: me just play this. This was a fake video that
I thought was hilarious. This one's got a big scandal at all.
I forgot NBC are somebody you gotta say they're suing. They
sued over it. And the whole thing is a fake video of this of
one of their anchors. Go ha. This
Unknown: is good. And welcome to a special edition of Meet the
Press. Now coming to you live from beautiful Miami, Florida as
we count down to the third Republican presidential debate
hosted by NBC News. I'm Garrett Hake live from our NBC News
debate Hall spin room where we are just hours away from five
Republican candidates taking the stage. Tonight. It's arguably a
game of survival as the field faces major questions about the
state of their own campaigns and the state of this race. With
front runner Donald Trump maintaining his commanding lead
and once again, skipping the contest. This is Ron DeSantis
and establishment Rhino that wears insoles in his boots in
order to look taller. And this is Nikki Haley. Nobody really
gives a shit about Mettler Haley. This guy is probably just
a stagehand Who the fuck invited this guy, and this guy is
probably just delivering pizzas. Anyway, nobody cares about these
bullshit Rhino debates, especially when you know that
Donald Trump is going to kick some ass tonight.
John C Dvorak: So they have Trump at the end, of course. Now
if that's the that's the job. I'm seeing this as the way Trump
used Twitter in 2016. Yes, you use social media. I don't know
whose gives him these ideas. But this is the Trump campaign,
using AI and doing crazy videos like this thing was, if you can,
people can track it nowadays, most of us but most of the
copies have been taken down. Because NBC NBC so irked about
they sued them. And they sued the Trump campaign and they
pulled it they but that is out there. Yeah. And it's funny to
watch because when they say this guy's delivering pizza then they
show Vivix. And they show I don't know who this guy is like
it may be a janitor. And they that's that was Scott. Yeah, it
was. It was very, very insulting and funny this is
Adam Curry: this is this is the whole point is AI and you could
have done. I mean, no one knows Garrett Hake really? I mean, he
could have done it with a voice actor but okay, we'll call it AI
fine. That's the business model. That's all there is people are
afraid of the boy is gonna do all that people are gonna fall
for the fake No, no, it's used for humor. It's used for comedy.
John C Dvorak: I agree with you. This is nobody's falling for
this. Oh, and the fact that NBC sued and when you could say it
was a parody, they you could have countersued and kept it up.
But it's better to be sued and take it down. That's what you
want. Yes, more publicity. So it makes it look better. And then
people go seek it out because I had to do that. And you know, it
took some time I found it. And then you get to watch and you
crack up. And you know, these guys are all freaked out about
it. This is totally AI is is is just for humor, and it's very
good at it. AI is
Adam Curry: for humor. And we have some humor coming up. But
first, we need to have some teeth put behind the executive
order that President Biden put in place. Because AI is so
dangerous. It's dangerous. It's racist is what it is. So we
found a case. Ha, boy, I'm so happy we can prove that we need
these laws for AI earlier today,
Unknown: big news from the FTC or Federal Trade Commission as
it banned Rite Aid from using facial recognition technology
and its stores for five years. Why? Well, according to the FTC,
Adam Curry: Don't you hate it when they do that? Why,
John C Dvorak: why? Why? Why? Well, if you leave that out, if
you leave the why out? It actually flows
Adam Curry: better. No, but yeah, it's a thing. It's like
people do that. Why? Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna educate you.
Well, according
Unknown: to the FTC, the drugstore giants secretly used
it for nearly a decade for surveillance purposes. But they
wrongly accused many of shoplifting in the process. And
they falsely accused the people that they did, were more likely
to be people of color or women. In a statement writing that,
quote, We are pleased to reach an agreement with the FTC and
put this matter behind us. However, we fundamentally
disagree with the facial recognition allegations in the
agency's complaint. Let's bring in NBC News technology
correspondent Jake Ward,
Adam Curry: Jake Ward, have you ever come across Jake ward? He's
the NBC technology correspondent, Surely you've
heard of Jake ward? No. So Jake Ward is going to explain he's
gonna explain to us and I like this. I like that, hey, you
know, what they are AI is identifying chicks and blacks.
They are thievin Magic, obviously,
Unknown: a lot of questions, people probably wondering around
this, like, what are the laws that regulate, basically kick
the ball. So to the point that's being made here in 2019, federal
agency found that Asian and Black individuals were up to 100
times more likely to be misidentified. So as the
technology also evolved since then,
Adam Curry: so this, this is the only thing they have on AI,
they're gonna go after everything they can with this
one point, it's racist, because old white men put it together is
racist.
Unknown: Well, let's say um, you know, the technology has
evolved, but unfortunately use it seems to have degraded at
least in right aids case mean, right. That is the allegation
that FTC is basically coming through this is the
Adam Curry: FTC. Are they? Do they? Are they a judicial
agency? Do they have the right to do this?
John C Dvorak: I think so. Commission is
Unknown: going to hear, you know, basically, if you walked
into a Rite Aid in a large urban center of Baltimore,
Philadelphia, San Francisco between 2012 and 2020, you were
picked up by this facial recognition system. And I've
been speaking with people, how
Adam Curry: many white people are in Rite Aid in Baltimore?
Just Just a question offhand. You know, I'm just like,
Baltimore is pretty black. It's a very black area,
Unknown: we're close to this project. And they say, you know,
initially, the idea was, that people would then come to you
having, you know, matched your photo to a very high tech
database of other repeat shoplifters. And then the idea
was that the staff member would somehow come over and just say,
Excuse me, sir, may I help you and by being kind of greeted in
that very polite high touch way, you'd be embarrassed and you'd
leave that was sort of going to be the original idea.
Adam Curry: You'd be embarrassed and kind of leave like oh, I
didn't steal anything. Be be embarrassed AI is embarrassed
John C Dvorak: embarrassed by somebody come over say can I
help you? That happens all the time. But over
Unknown: the years, Sam, I mean, you know, right. The money paid
to retail clerks has stayed the same while their
responsibilities have gone up and up and up right morale
staffing problems, the rest of it mean it's in an environment
of really, you know, dysfunctional a really
dysfunctional A market, you suddenly have employees trying
to deal with a lot of shoplifting Oh, the poor
employees and not in a sensitive way. And it turns out not in a
way where you could rely on the technology. The FTC says that
1000s of people were falsely identified as shoplet. Write
John C Dvorak: this report. He's just rambling, telling us
anything, after
Unknown: hours, even though you know, the technology in theory
can be better. The people who were not trained, they would
hold people out of line, embarrass them in front of their
colleagues, their families, their friends, all that, you
know, this high minded ambition, that Rite Aid and many other
sources seem to have had with facial recognition did not work
out such that the FTC has now banned that company from using
it for five years.
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, the TSA uses that every single day that
when you go to the airport, they're scanning your face.
They're approving you based upon facial recognition, airlines are
checking you in automatically just by looking at a camera. No
report on that. Jake ward.
Unknown: So the enforcement obviously is a challenge to put
it mildly. I'm also wondering, Jake, companies like Rite Aid, I
mean, we talked about the fact this was done secretly, at least
those are the allegations from the FTC. Do you have to disclose
if you're using this kind of technology?
Yes, you do now, and that is what is so interesting. The
reason that this is such a big deal in the tech world is this
is the FTC, I've been speaking to sources close to that agency.
And they say that this is part of the FTC effort to try to stop
the large scale practice of essentially experimenting on all
of us when it comes to big data, except with the government wants
to do it at the airport. And that's not just going to be
facial recognition systems, it's going to be things like AI,
right? Last minute people to collect all kinds of data on all
of us, and experiment in the wild on the kind of conclusions
you can reach using that stuff. The FTC is saying no more. In
this case, one of the punishments being levied against
Rite Aid is they have to delete the database that they had
assembled across all the stores across the nation, they don't
get to just sort of
John C Dvorak: make a backup, then delete it, or try again,
Unknown: that is a big cost to any kind of tech driven company.
You know, in addition, they basically say that, you know,
this kind of new standard that you're gonna have to really
prove that this thing works on an ongoing basis is also going
to apply getting off the
Adam Curry: hook. All right, he's done. All right.
John C Dvorak: Jay Z's on and on and on about nothing. It was so
what?
Adam Curry: Alright, now we get to the information, the info
Mavericks, the info Mavericks, there was a big info Maverick
meeting, at Turning Point USA
John C Dvorak: or your buddy. So yeah, though, yeah. To be info
Maverick club, the info Maverick
Adam Curry: club, in this case, at turning point, USA onstage a
live pool boy podcast, with our hero, the pool boy, along with
Tucker Carlson, Charlie Kirk, James O'Keefe. I mean, this is
the creme de la creme of the
John C Dvorak: Mavericks, the cream of the Maverick and let's
hear
Adam Curry: how afraid they are of AI and how AI is going to eat
the
Unknown: world. We may be we may be past the event horizon, the
point at which you know towards AI is so great. There's no
backing away from it, what we're being so faster and fast, I
think you can go into it with these neural nets. A human that
understands the code can go into the system, be in the virtual
realm and reverse engineer the AI and see what's happening and
how it's being run in real time.
Stay with it gets better.
Maybe I would just do with the keyboard. But I'm not going into
that. But listen, this is this was Elon Musk's argument, we
must integrate with the machine, Terminator like scenario. And
that's the word we think this is going to end well. I mean,
honestly, like, this is the scary this is what people need
to understand about about the singularity event when a I hold
Adam Curry: on to this where people don't understand I'm
appalled by this when people aren't going to say right, I was
gonna understand this because it's very important. It's very
important. Like,
Unknown: this is the scary this is what people need to
understand about about the singularity event when AI when
it actually turns on when we reach Artificial General
Intelligence might be there. And we might be there. No, it isn't.
It's a point at which the machine itself beat
exponentially improves itself. So if the rate of growth for the
the computer systems that we're building is say more as live
doubles every two years,
Adam Curry: that's not Moore's law. It doubles every two years.
Generally,
Unknown: we're building is say more as live doubles every two
years. Once we reach the point of AI singularity, or I guess
you could call it Artificial General Intelligence, straight
to the top, right up to the point of near infinity, where
this machine is improving itself, learning faster and
faster and calculating faster. And then it's beyond our our
comprehension. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: saw the movie The Forbin Project Colossus, The
Forbin Project recently. It does exactly what he described as the
Adam Curry: man. The hell yes, we're all going to die.
John C Dvorak: The AI system. Project, go check it out.
People.
Adam Curry: We've talked about it. I've watched it. You can get
it on YouTube. This is fantastic. Oh, yeah.
John C Dvorak: And it's old. It's from the 60s. Isn't it 70s?
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, guys on emacs doing Lisp rolling their
eyes. So well My
John C Dvorak: thing is there's you're gonna get a neural net,
which is going to go and kind of D. Disassemble the code somehow,
huh? Yeah. Yeah. And then you're gonna be able to go in there
because you've disassembled the code with a neural net and then
you can fool around i This is nuts. These people
Adam Curry: are no good for your, for your mental health.
Nor are the next people. Now this is I'm gonna bring in a
professor now.
John C Dvorak: Galloway, Shaw
Adam Curry: so close. It's so close. It is from the pivot
show, which I might point out is the award winning technology
podcast, award winning. I've never heard him talking about
technology. It's the award winning technology podcast. And
they have a bunch of predictions for 2024. And they bring in a
Stanford professor of AI to to predict what is going to happen
in 2024. Okay, Scott. Now
Unknown: let's hear a prediction from Dr. Fei Fei Li.
Oh, hi, Taryn Scott. This is Fei Fei Li. I'm Sequoia Professor of
Computer Science at Stanford. Denning, co director of Stanford
Institute for Human Centered AI, and the author of The she AI.
Adam Curry: I think she's Asian. Her name is fufu are far far.
She's obviously a I know she's not code and code for us. And I
love that she used to McCoy a professor, you know how that
works. Hi, I'm Mike Morris from Sequoia we're going to give you
$100 million. But whenever your professor goes on pivot and
award winning technology podcast, she has to say hello, I
am the Sequoia professor. You
John C Dvorak: know, the joke of that is that when I hear the
Sequoia professor, I think of a tree. I don't think the VC can
Adam Curry: pie. I'm the Pfizer professor, but listen to listen
to her prediction. Now this is this is where you know they'll
shut up now you know, it's boom
Unknown: Ooh, crap.
This is Fei Fei Li. I'm Sequoia Professor of Computer Science at
Stanford. Denning, co director of Stanford Institute for Human
Centered AI, and the author of the book The world's I see. My
prediction for AI in 2024 is that the technology will
continue to deepen and widen but a very impressive speed, we're
gonna see more multimodal large models beyond language into the
domain of perception and world modeling. We will also see AI
continue to create a lot of discussion among the public and
policymakers as we experienced the messy impact of AI in our
society, in our industry. Thank you. Okay,
but what was that? Exactly?
Adam Curry: I think that technology will widen and deepen
the, okay. Bullshit, it will, everything's going to widen and
deepen as you dig deeper from this bowl. And it will become
multimodal. Now. I've been following this now. Now. I'm so
irked by this by this scam, that I'm following multimodal means
it will be able to you will build large language models with
video and images and voice and audio. So yeah, put our podcast
in there, please. And she predicts Glo world modeling this
is the new buzz term. World might even mean I'm glad you
asked. I'm asking from the university I got a quick
splinter of world modeling also known as General world model.
The thing
Unknown: is, alums only know about language. What if we
applied the same big data big model approach to how we
generate videos? Well, that's what we're calling general
worlds models. GW Adams, and we believe that they're the next
big thing. Similar to LLM general worlds models are given
a large amount of data, but not just text. It's also given
videos, images and audio, everything you'd need in order
to understand how the world works. And with all this
information, the models build out sort of a mental map for
themselves. And this is where my dog comes in. Hi Ruben. Ruben
also has an internal model of the world based on things he
knows. And it looks something like this He learned that if we
go this way, there's a higher chance of us going to the park.
And if we go that way, there's a dog that kind of looks at him
funny. He knows that there's usually sidewalk chicken scraps
right here. And that these stores known as pet stores that
have the tweets that he likes, once we get to the park, this is
where all the bus sniffing happens. With all of this data,
the sights, sounds, relationships of things, Rubin
has figured out how to predict certain outcomes and adjust his
behaviors, just like the general world model.
Adam Curry: So there you have it, a far cry from the fear
mongering from the pool boy and the info Mavericks, the level
that they're talking about for 2024 is a dog who knows when you
turn right, but sniffing will happen. This is this is the
future. That's from the university.
John C Dvorak: And yeah, and they were no, they were a big
disrobe that Stanford was big, big, big in the 80s. You can but
sniff and they're always big. And but sniffing everybody who's
ever been there knows that you have to be careful, by the way
you go.
Adam Curry: The bud sniffing is could be very bad. So it's, it's
nothing. It is. I'm telling you, they're gonna pivot to quantum
computing. No, they have to, they have to know
John C Dvorak: that. There's no logical pivot there. There's
they're going to pivot I'm not going to argue the point the
pivot is climate, they always do that the pivot pivot from Ai
they did in the 80s. They did in the 50s. Well, hold
Adam Curry: on, hold on. This is a good point, when in the 50s,
neither you or I know but in the 80s, when they pivoted away when
the AI Winter came in the 80s word that they pivot to,
John C Dvorak: they will do all I can tell well, they pivoted to
the internet, I believe. And they they bailed on the AI. And
the thing is, the funny thing about the Stanford woman is that
Stanford was one of the two sort of one of the two main AI areas
who was Stanford and I think was MIT. And and I think Carnegie
Mellon has some maybe had their toe in the water. But when they
bailed they basically destroyed all their research to a lot of
the research has been just they got rid of it because it was too
embarrassing. And they had to start over they people would dug
up some of the old stuff is really got to kick started a new
AI movement. The right there. I don't know, I think I don't know
the
Adam Curry: reason. The reason why I say quantum computers is a
because it's not real, be well, it's
John C Dvorak: been around but it's already been there as we're
already past the quantum computing fad. Okay,
Adam Curry: this is a headline from the hill. If countries are
serious about climate change, they better get serious about
quantum computing. And the story goes like this quantum computing
uses laws of quantum physics to store and process information
and rapidly solve complex problems. Quantum computers
available today require additional maturation to deliver
on their full potential. Then here it is, quantum computers
will be able to accelerate improvements in batteries, which
are pivotable to the pivotal to the renewable energy transition.
And they keep going on about oh, companies like BMW are
investigating the use of quantum computers to identify optimal
locations to install electric vehicle charging stations. Why
you need a quantum computer for that? How bows are likely none.
Daimler partner with IBM to use quantum simulation to better
understand lithium sulfur batteries and explore how to
boost batteries charge capacity, diminish energy loss via heat
and lower production costs. Doesn't that sound a lot like
AI?
John C Dvorak: Well, what you're saying my interpretation of what
you're getting at is that you see such a smokescreen of BS
that well there's a smokescreen of BS here. Yes. So why don't we
just move over to the other smoke screen
Adam Curry: went from blockchain to AI. I mean, that was
smokescreen. smokescreen. Everybody knew blockchain was
crap.
John C Dvorak: I don't think blockchain was the was the entry
point for AI?
Adam Curry: Not at all. Oh no. For the markets charm for the
markets. That was crypto and blockchain and that was that was
right before Oh, now it's AI. Oh, AI. What? No, I think it's a
separate track we need Need reasons for Nvidia to overcharge
for their chips? Quantum is the next way for that.
John C Dvorak: If you didn't react bla, here's the problem
with that. The Nvidia chips which are more or less perfect
for AI, because you get to, you need so much computing power to
do the stupidest stuff, including where a dog is fast.
It's like, yeah, nailed it. Quantum Computing is a different
type of computing. I mean, it's, the architecture is totally
alien, and no one can do it. I mean, we google claims to have
made a quantum computer that solve some problem. And it's
there, I never bought into that is bullcrap. The state this is a
joke.
Unknown: The
Adam Curry: great article, how artists are now sabotaging AI
with data poisoning. Have you heard of this? No.
John C Dvorak: But this reminds me of what vandals like to me
this vandalism. Yes. Yes. Well, yeah. And vandals. Vandals are
out to just like, for example, the driverless cars. Yeah, there
is a subculture of vandals that like to put like an X on a stop
sign or, or put some word over the word stop on a stop sign or,
or take stop signs out where they belong. And even though
it's still on the road, and do stuff to screw up the driverless
car. Yes. And it doesn't take much. It turns out well,
Adam Curry: there's a tool called Nightshade. And you run
your image through nightshade, and it alters the pixels in a
way that screws up the way the computer the AI looks at the
image and what it interprets from the image. So the example
they give here is you need an image of a balloon. You'd prompt
red balloon against a blue sky but it returns an egg
John C Dvorak: love this. I love this. I love these guys.
Adam Curry: Great. This is fancy. So it's already becoming
just a great it's just great. It's fun. The AI is entertaining
and good for our show. That's pretty much
John C Dvorak: is that I think the whole key is entertainment.
Yes. That's all this is hardly anything you want to worry
yourself sick about. Yeah, I mean, it could get tedious at at
some point. But
Adam Curry: we have in that in that thing. The poor boy brought
up something called Dead internet. And dead internet is
this idea that everything on the internet will just be a bot and
everything your this probably to some degree there's already a
lot of that going on. And that you'll be you'll think that
you'll be having conversations with people we just talking with
bots all day long. I think that's kind of we're already
there. I
John C Dvorak: think some people can be stuck in that mode. Yeah,
yeah.
Adam Curry: Especially in cells.
John C Dvorak: organ cells. Yeah,
Adam Curry: sadly, sadly.
John C Dvorak: Okay with this cute female bots. She's She
loves me. She says if I sent her enough money, she can get she
can leave South Carolina to I guess she was a runner up to
miss South Carolina. She's gonna move out here with me. I
Adam Curry: don't know if it's just me but the the pig
butchering is at an all time high right now. I am getting so
many text messages. You know that we know how this works.
We've discussed it several times. The pig butchering where
they send you a note let me see I have one here. From a 510 area
code. How are you? How's it going? Okay, so we'll skip that
when there's more creative ones. Let me see when was the other
one I had? Hey, I saved your number but I didn't save your
name. Who are you? Yeah, no, no, I'm gonna answer that area code
906
John C Dvorak: What are they what what are we talking about
here? He butchering
Adam Curry: where you reply. And then and then and then they send
you know it's always some hot Asian chick and then she sends
you an image like oh, you kind of cute and then eventually you
wind up investing in some cryptocurrency and you make
money. You make money because it's a phony fake front. You
make money and then they get you to mortgage your house. It's a
long game long, long game long game.
John C Dvorak: Here's a bunch of a bunch of these phonies on
LinkedIn nowadays. Linda
Adam Curry: How soon will you pick me up that's a good one.
That's an interesting one.
John C Dvorak: Are these your phone messages? Yeah, this
Adam Curry: is a text message. Hey, what are you doing as that
one? Yeah. Oh, this this is rampant in your probably comes
from x blue. Are you there? Question mark. Yeah, yeah,
John C Dvorak: it's None of these,
Adam Curry: you don't even use your phone.
John C Dvorak: It's in the drawer. Yeah, I will I have to
talk about this is when when things we're going to talk
about, when January 1 comes around, I will have gone one
entire year without a cell phone, carrying a cell phone, or
having a cell phone or even having an account for a cell
phone one entire year. And I bring this up to certain people
and like I brought it up at the bank the other day, and
everybody goes nuts. How do you do it? I wish I could do that.
And of course, my response I wish I could do that is just do
it. You go How can you do that? How do you?
Adam Curry: How do you How would you do it? How do you function?
How do you live? How is it possible? I mean, do you have a
life? Do you have friends? Do you know what I mean? Did you
have a seeing eye dog? How can you live without your phone?
It's pretty
John C Dvorak: much the reaction you get from everyone. And it's
like this was only just before 2007 When people didn't carry
these phones around like crazy. It's not that long ago, it's
less than 20 years in the entire population has been addicted to
carry your phone around. And like use pointed out to me,
which I didn't notice at the time as a couple of years ago.
And I see nothing he bought guys and gals walking around with a
phone in their hand, all the time, wherever they go their
phone, or their hand them two
Adam Curry: of them. Sometimes two women sometimes have two
phones. I see that a lot. One is
John C Dvorak: like work. It turns out that you don't need
that he had the phone. I mean, once in a while you'd be at a
study at the store or something, you know, wonder so and so once
you call us if you want to buy one of these as on sale, you
don't need to do that. And then while you're there, the response
I get is hey, you bet you I get text messages from me. I get
texts, you do have a phone, you're liar. And it's like no, I
use Google. Yeah, I use Google Voice and which has text message
me to do it on the computer. I come in and like when you open
it up once every week and find some messages on there. I send
messages out to people who I gotta send some information
important. Important people important. Important. Yeah. And
you use
Adam Curry: you use your text message twice a week for me
newsletter. Newsletter, newsletter, please review,
newsletter, newsletter.
John C Dvorak: Well, you require it. I wouldn't normally do that
because I send you the newsletter and have to look at
Adam Curry: it because I'm looking at my email all day. I
have
John C Dvorak: to because you're stuck on a phone like everybody
else. I send you the dynamic text.
Adam Curry: I am not stuck on a phone. You have a phone. I'm the
graphene OS there's a lot of stuff it doesn't know
John C Dvorak: I agree with I mean you you've done your best.
Yes, I have. But you haven't done you haven't gotten all the
way here's, here's the
Adam Curry: problem. Here's the problem with with the phone.
Text messaging was kind of useful, but it's been so
poisoned now. Because, you know, I have Greg Abbott texting me
I've Kamala Harris texting me. I got Joe Biden texting me. And
then they give my number out to all these pig butchers who are
texting me. It's filled and you have to be careful. It's like
hey, you know, this is this is your bank, click here for for an
important message. And before you know it, you know your bank
account is compromised. The two factor authentication there's
there's nothing useful anymore in communication. This is just
not a bureau I use signal. I use telegram I use the what's the
what are the it's all crap. That really is become very useless.
All of this, this. It used to be that you got my phone and then a
couple of people have my number. And if they if you really need
to get a hold of me, you're important in my life. Now you
can have that. Now now because everybody's important. Everybody
has my number that's just sold over and over and over again.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, once it gets out there. I should do
Rogan
Adam Curry: Joe Rogan just buys a new number every like six
months. I know people that do that. Yeah, he just gets in he
gets a whole new phone to just gets a new phone. And he leaves
the leaves the other phone in the you know at home. And then
if I send him a message Oh, dude, yeah, here's my new
number. Or sometimes you'll tell me if he changes the number and
he keeps the old one for a while and then he gets rid of it. Yes,
John C Dvorak: of course a number of people that do that.
So it's a it's a practice a lot of people employ, but then
Adam Curry: I know lots of people who have given up their
number and they got a new number and then they're getting to text
messages from someone's old number and oh yeah,
John C Dvorak: this is a huge problem. And then people because
the old the new number is really somebody else's old number that
they gave up to get a new number, because they're getting
too many messages and now you're stuck with that number getting
weird messages from people you never knew.
Adam Curry: The only solution really is to go into a system
where you pay you pay for the resolution. Yes, I have this
leave it in the drawer. I have no life. Drawer. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: I don't need the aggravation of that. Uh, that's
why the other one I told one of the tellers, he said, Why do you
what happens? How do people get a hold of you say, go home and
get a hold of me on a landline? I'm not a doctor, I don't need
to be gone call 24/7. If I was a heart specialist, or somebody
like that, I would want to carry a phone. Sure, but I'm not. I'm
a podcaster. Nobody needs to get a hold of me.
Adam Curry: My friend is the ER doctor. And he doesn't he
literally does not have a phone at dinner. He did save a little
girl's life the other night and we're having dinner.
John C Dvorak: How do you find out because
Adam Curry: she she walked by him. She's like seven years old.
And he immediately heard something, which was her
choking. And he grabbed her and like, bam, bam, bam, they're
back. Rip whips her head back looks still not love. Boom,
boom, boom. And it popped right out. I was witnessed it. Yes. We
were having dinner with them. It was restaurant. Yes, it was. It
was I've never seen anyone's training and be able to spring
into action like that. And he heard it. She had the little
girls probably gonna try to go around the table to get to her
mom on the other side. And she was just choking. And he heard
that and he immediately knew what to do. I was impressed does
not have a phone with them. Er, Doctor.
John C Dvorak: Er is different than your yet you. Yeah. It's
the same as being an on call. And
Adam Curry: the reason why the reason why is he doesn't want
the hospital to call and say we you need to come in because it's
busy. That's why he doesn't have a phone. But I did find out
something interesting of interest. You know, we have the
big solar eclipse coming up.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh, yeah. The big one, April 8.
Adam Curry: These are things you don't think about, but the
hospital has ordered quite a number of body bags. They're
expecting so many people to come to Fredericksburg. They expect
there to be a number of people more people than normal that
will die and will need a body Ben Oh, just
John C Dvorak: statistics. Yes. Statistics. You got to be
prepared. You gotta have you have people that that logistics
people who work at the hospital that know these things? Hey, we
got to do this. We got to do that. It
Adam Curry: will be it will be great for a local news report so
people wouldn't come to you. You have a statistical chance of
leaving Fredericksburg in a body bad. Please don't come. Don't
visit us at all. Yeah, good luck. Why do people do that for
15 minutes? Why are people coming from all around the
world?
John C Dvorak: What is them when they're there? Get out there
with a microphone and ask him what? Why are you here, dummy.
Adam Curry: And believe me, the phones will not work here. The
phones that we barely get service. The overloaded Yeah, on
the weekends, it already overloaded. All the retailers
they have to go to wired terminals, because the wireless
terminals get overloaded on a Saturday. Because the whole
because that works as a cell network. No, no, no, it's stay
away the
John C Dvorak: end of civilization.
Adam Curry: Oh, well. That's a good point. One of the trolls
says the phone companies will bring in the event trucks. Yeah,
maybe. Maybe. Yeah, they
John C Dvorak: can do that. To do that.
Adam Curry: I'm good. I'm bringing up my ham radio stuff.
I'm sick of it. I need to be prepared. And then where the end
is near.
John C Dvorak: I can take a three parter here with the
Chinese election meddling.
Adam Curry: Oh, I thought it was only Russia that does that. No.
Turns
John C Dvorak: out China does it more than Russia. Okay,
Adam Curry: part one. Yeah.
Unknown: A recent report by the the intelligence community finds
that the Chinese regime tried to meddle in the 2022 midterm
elections. Does it work and what will happen in the 2024
election? Joining us now is Dean Baxendale CEO of China democracy
fund and optimum publishing International. Baxendale just
published a new book, The Mosaic effect, how the Chinese
Communist Party started a hybrid war in America's backyard. Now
there's a declassified US intelligence report that says
China tried to meddle in the 2022 midterm elections in the
US. how seriously should we be taking this?
I think we should be taking this extremely seriously this year.
and the intelligence community are doing a great service for
America, and quite frankly for the free world by declassifying
and making some of these reports available to the public to
understand that malign state governments like Chinese
Communist Party, Russia, Iran, all interfering in elections
around the world. So I would say yes, it's extremely important to
this report, this information is coming out. On that note, the
report notes that China quote tacitly approved efforts to try
to influence a handful of midterm racism voting members of
both US political parties, those are candidates seen as anti
China now, how is China able to influence elections outside of
their own borders? So
as you know, the Chinese Communist Party uses the United
Front work department, globally?
Adam Curry: This is she brings up it kind of an interesting
point without even thinking about it. Both candidates, both
sides hate China, who are they trying to tip the scales for?
John C Dvorak: The people who do our candidates who don't have a
hatred of China and they don't express it deal with threatened
China? You know, the Stooges? Eric Swalwell types of Fangfang
Adam Curry: don't need to go hack him. I just put Fangfang
next to him in bed, or
John C Dvorak: any any woman I think. Yeah, this thing called
the united front. Sounds sketchy. Yeah, you can look it
up. It's in Wikipedia, it's got a story about it here go to part
two,
Unknown: they're running operations. In Canada, the
United States, Mexico, the UK, they have united front people
who will ultimately control various media outlets,
throughout and proxy corporations, especially in
Canada, where we have 56 media outlets that are either
controlled directly or indirectly by the Chinese
Communist Party or proxies, they're attached to the united
front. So they're using their own information within the
Chinese community to change votes or persuade Chinese guys
or community members to vote in a certain way or to view a
politician in a certain way that might be negative towards China,
and therefore, that is one way they would with the influence in
terms directly in the media. The next of course, is social media,
and their use of trolls and bots, Will that continue to put
out disinformation or misinformation? Or do you want
one look at it, and actually exacerbate points of division,
both on the left and the right, that alienate voters and
actually influenced them in voting in particular? Wait
Adam Curry: a minute. The Chinese are using Putin's
playbook?
John C Dvorak: Yes, Chinese playbook. No, it's
Adam Curry: Putin his playbook. I'm not buying any of this. This
is all bull crap. The i Okay. I think we don't need Chinese
helping us argue on social media. Seriously?
John C Dvorak: Well, it might be one of those things where
they're doing stuff because they think it's effective. Well, duh,
is really just a joke. They're just fooling
Adam Curry: themselves that that that cyber front, whatever it's
called, they're, they're united front, united front, they're
stealing money from the Chinese government. They don't need any
of that. Just just post one word Trump and then back away and
Unknown: see what happens to Trump.
Adam Curry: That's all you need.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's actually that would work that
does work. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I can get paid for that.
John C Dvorak: Right. You don't need to listen to the last of
this.
Adam Curry: Are you sure I'm enjoying?
John C Dvorak: Okay, go play.
Unknown: And in terms of the United Front Work Department
give us a sense of how does this relate to the Chinese Communist
Party? Is this its own little category? Or is it backed by the
government? So
as you know, the United Front actually is the Department of
the Chinese Communist Party there was over I believe now
there's over the close to 40,000 employees around the world,
their influence operations, both soft power and sharp power
operations inside countries around the globe power to ensure
that China is viewed as a positive and a great nation to
do business with and to ultimately partner with their
propaganda operations. misinformation, disinformation.
Propaganda is just one of the many tools used by the United
Front, you know, throughout the world, you can look at other
elements of the United Front including, you know, direct
political influence operations in terms of bribes or and or
money that's being donated directly into
donated for instance,
or directly into constituencies that may influence a politician
and how he views in particular issue that may be pro or against
the Chinese Communist Party's ambitions.
John C Dvorak: Donate to no agenda. Yeah,
Adam Curry: this is yeah, you know, okay, fine. Fine, aye.
Aye. All of this influence on the The Internet No, none of it.
None of social media is is just the place where you going yell?
Because you're hooked on it because yeah, people are hooked
on it. And it's it's unhealthy.
John C Dvorak: They're hooked to their phone, the phone, same
thing.
Adam Curry: You know, you you brought something up on the last
show the show before that about me stopping smoking weed and how
Mimi thought that was great.
John C Dvorak: And a lot of other people chimed in saying
yes. And
Adam Curry: what's interesting is I have received at least 10
emails 10 that say, Oh, wow, I would like to quit smoking weed
too. How did you do it? This is this is an unexpected response
from our audience that dead. Yeah. So I would like to give a
brief overview of how I did it. I want to
John C Dvorak: be interested in myself even though I don't know
why care. Well,
Adam Curry: one, I had a small incentive, because my
periodontist called and said, Adam, I'm going to operate on
you stop putting fire in your mouth. It makes it harder for me
to operate and harder for you to recover. So I had an incentive.
I've had lots of incentives in the past. But I quit cold
turkey. This is the number one quit cold turkey. Number two, I
vaped. Not in fact, it wasn't it not even nicotine just a vape
mainly for the oral fixation. The process of having something
in my hands. This is this is I found that to be the hardest. I
do want more I'm going to do I'm missing that motion. I also got
a geek vape that's a brand which gives you more to do because you
have to build the coil yourself and put the
John C Dvorak: cotton like, like pipe smokers. Yes,
Adam Curry: yes, very precisely. So part of it for me weed was
the process of roll, I could roll a joint with one hand
behind my back. I mean, while driving no problem. So that
having the process of doing something, I also had a project
to work on because you become very productive very quickly
within a day. And so I set up a Trillium database just have
something to do. I set up a Trillium so I have something I
have a project and final advice
John C Dvorak: has been a bottle might be more appropriate for
most of the puzzle ship
Adam Curry: in a bottle. Have a project like like Lego?
John C Dvorak: Lego? Yeah, Lego.
Adam Curry: Have a partner to keep you in check. Because if
you're alone, that's the worst if you're alone, then the devil
will come and get you and be like well no one's gonna see I'm
just have one toke and and take it one day at a time then one
week and one month and now it's been 14 months.
John C Dvorak: And I worked 18 months I didn't realize it was
that long already. Oh, yeah.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it was it was it was Thanksgiving last year.
So yeah, Dominus
John C Dvorak: longer than I've been off the phone.
Adam Curry: Together we're a catch. We're great guys
together. Alright, sticking with a quitting before we take our
break here. Something very interesting happening for the
holiday season. Via is you thought ozempic was good. It's
holiday season with
Unknown: the holiday season in full swing. Some people who take
drugs use for weight loss such as ozempic are planning a pause
on their prescriptions ahead of celebrations arrow Russia was
back with the details and what to know good morning Ariel Good
morning
again, Robin. As we know many have seen dramatic results
taking this class of medications for weight loss but some say
they need a break for the holidays. Whether it's for a
little indulgence or cost savings. Doctors caution it's a
trade off.
Adam Curry: This is I found this to be interesting. Well
John C Dvorak: I find it to be ridiculous. I thought the whole
idea was your take there was me so you can you can chow down.
No,
Adam Curry: no, I think the reason why people are stopping
is because otherwise you're throwing up all day. You know
it's like you go to have Christmas dinner and I gotta go
take a dump I gotta go puke. I don't feel good.
Unknown: This season for holiday feasting and now some using
medications like ozempic Manjaro and we go V for weight loss say
they're taking a vacation from the drugs
and popular opinion in the semaglutide world. Julie still
Kelly who lost
38 pounds says she's foregoing the appetite suppressing
semaglutide in favor of feeling less uncomfortably full and
fielding fewer questions during festive meals. She skipped her
dose during Thanksgiving. What I
noticed was I was still able to eat the things that I really
wanted to indulge a little bit I just had to be really conscious
about how I was feeling what I was eating how fast I was eating
it
for Kaylee Svenson, who lost 90 pounds on Manjaro. Cutting back
this time of year is a financial decision. A trade off to put
presents under the tree.
It's something that is financially extraordinarily
expensive for our fans. way to afford because our insurance
isn't covering it. I can make a box last six weeks instead of
four that will save me a couple 100 Extra.
Adam Curry: I think this contained a minute. I think this
may be part of the ploy to get this thing on Medicare. Look at
these poor people they put presents under the tree to sack
sacrifice family
Unknown: to afford because our insurance isn't covering it. If
I can make a box last six weeks instead of four that will save
me a couple 100 extra dollars. Kaylee
says her prescription cost her more than $1,000 for for single
use doses. If I
can stretch it for 10 days instead of every week that helps
me push off you know the expense a little bit. Doctors
caution pausing the treatments can come with some side effects
like nausea, increased appetite and weight gain.
If a patient skips their medication for one to two weeks,
there is a potential for them to have some increased side
effects, they might not see those improvements in their
hunger and appetite. Ah,
Adam Curry: here's another part, don't stop taking it.
Unknown: And so they'll inevitably eat more and that may
contribute to some weight gain. And
with all of the temptations this time of year doctors say this
may not be the ideal time to pause treatment if you're hoping
to maintain your progress but a week or so shouldn't set you too
far back guys and there are temptations this time of year.
Adam Curry: God how many people are on this stuff. So I do have
a you have quick two quick boots on the ground notices important
for us to know. I incorrectly stated that semaglutide is out
of patent wrongs as James. He says semaglutide and all other
GLP one agonists are not generic the patent does not expire until
July 17 2026. The compound a GLP one agonists you spoke of our
reverse engineered formulas. There are no generics of ozempic
trulicity or any other GLP one agonist because they are still
patented. The different names of Novo Nordisk products are just
branding for the same drug different doses. Yes, we got
that. And then a second boots on the ground note. And this is
about the cost. I have a client who has just started taking the
compounded versions of semaglutide. We have pharmacy
pharmacists, in our vast boots on the ground army, they add
vitamin B 12 to it, which qualifies it as a new drug. My
client is getting it from a compounding pharmacy in
Pennsylvania. So that's the workaround is yeah, you just get
the you get the semaglutide You throw some beat 12 in new drug,
it's okay. The compounded version comes in a vial and the
patient must use a standard syringe to draw it. That's why
people are overdosing short. The compound version was prescribed
by her PCP primary care physician, I guess. And it's
only $250 A month instead of the typical 1000. The drug sells in
every other country in the world for $30. Yeah, the main reason
for the increased increased price is the PBMs. pharmacy
benefit managers you remember this term? Yep. This is what
Trump went
John C Dvorak: after. Yeah, Trump went after him. And
supposedly Biden did something about it. But there's no
evidence of it. Biden talks a big game, but none of this ever
happens. This is like Biden talking a big game about the
climate change and the rest of them we have more oil production
than ever. Yeah, he's just full of crap. This guy all knows the
theme.
Adam Curry: All of the pharmacy benefit managers are owned by
pharmacies like CVS owns optim RX, they approve or disapprove
the prescribed drug for coverage. Then the PBM jacks up
the price to the patient while sharing the profits with the
parent company. Ultimately, what a deal ultimately,
John C Dvorak: I'm all in ultimately
Adam Curry: it's congress that's to blame. And that's not going
to change because of all the lobbying I mean bribes. Oh damn
greedy bastards. Okay, very good. That's your boots on the
ground. You're screwed.
John C Dvorak: You're screwed. And you will be forever forever.
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd like to thank you for your
courage saying good morning to you the man who put the seat in
the cheating machine say hello to my friend on the other end
the One Only Mr. Johnson
John C Dvorak: in the morning, hello chips. Feet near subs in
the water under names and nights out there we
Adam Curry: are well into the Christmas holiday here Christmas
week which means the trolls will be off and galavanting about
let's have a check. Oh no. 1741 This is not good. This is a very
low troll calm. We have low tea.
John C Dvorak: That's actually not bad. We have I just want to
say we have been hundreds the number we're shoot for on
Thursday. We have low Tuesday.
Adam Curry: We have low tea though. We do have low today.
Today. Today's So, today's Thursday, I think, today's
Thursday,
John C Dvorak: so 1750 is fine. Okay.
Adam Curry: Thank goodness. Thank goodness. Well, you can
join the trolls in the troll room troll room.io also known as
no agenda stream.com It's a live stream 24/7 It's pretty cool. We
got a lot of podcasts there a lot of people doing live
podcasts, which you can enjoy there with the streaming the
streaming audio. We
John C Dvorak: do that on the Devorah core with some plugged.
Adam Curry: Yes. May I give you props, by the way, for the
DeVore Ichor if you predicted some kind of weird buy out with
with was a Disney no never is covering. Yeah. And the next day
they announced that there's some merger or something. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: well, no, they're in talks with Paramount. Yeah,
Adam Curry: but you you called it
John C Dvorak: astonishing.
Adam Curry: You got some weird insider transaction that was
like, No, it's like it was a screwball
John C Dvorak: one too. It was weird. It was very strange.
Yeah, he had to go back listen to the show you go.
Adam Curry: So yeah, so you can hear DH unplugged on Tuesdays.
You guys go live what eight o'clock? Eight o'clock Eastern
nine o'clock Eastern. I can't remember what time What time is
it for you when you start? Seven is 10 o'clock Eastern know that?
Oh, yeah. 1010 Eastern There you go. Yeah, when seven o'clock?
Yeah, this is fun. I always love listening to you guys. You know
nothing about Bitcoin, by the way should stay away from that.
John C Dvorak: We know nothing about Bitcoin we just don't like
Adam Curry: you don't like what I know. I know. That's that's
very clear. So you can also and this is what we recommend is get
a modern podcast app, you can find that at podcast apps.com.
Because not just for our show. But there are many podcasts that
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basis. They just cancel people and I haven't tracked apple but
they do the same thing. They get a call something's not right,
whatever the any of this is gone. And that will not happen
with a modern podcast app. In addition to that, you will get a
notification within 90 seconds of us publishing the show that
has been updated. We have chapter images, we have
transcripts which you can search in which is very handy. Like oh,
there's something that show what to find. There's all these
benefits that you get and is completely open source and a
bunch of cool people make it
John C Dvorak: so now I want to give a benefit out to one of our
longtime producers. And I don't want to give his his email out
but I'm going to do it. Patrick may calm Sir Patrick may 15 $50
Every show forever. And he's in New York. I think Sir Patrick
makeup? Yes. No, I got laid off after 10 years for my tech job
because he quit he quit. He quit his donation and I sent him a
note I said what happened? I got laid off. 10 years from my tech
job I resumed donating in want to get a new gig right before
Christmas. He was he was there forever. Last day is early
January, we'll spend the holiday working on my resume. Let me
know if anyone needs someone with 10 plus years of code
experience 20 plus years of front end plus eight years of
back end development plus five years of blockchain three plus
three that have something else I can't figure out what he's
somebody yatta yatta yatta Keep up the great work. Email Patrick
may calm pa t ric kmacom@gmail.com I have
Adam Curry: two pieces of advice for Ben I think he's a service
you know thank you sir patch Oh yeah, he said probably a barren
two piece of advice a put in three years of AI experience
please just do it and just do it just throw it in to consider
image makers inc.com That's image makers Inc with a k.com.
My job this is a value for value podcast. Speaking of value for
value, the I heard something that you have not promoted yet
on this show, which I maybe you felt that was out of place. But
it seems the success of too many eggs.com there is now a new book
from gate view publishing, which I believe is titled The ABCs of
stock investing.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there you get the PDF there at gate view
publishing.com.
Adam Curry: Explain what it is because I liked I like your
John C Dvorak: kids book. It's a kids book with ABCs and each one
of the ABCs has some sort of some some investment term for
kids. With illustrations with illustration with a yeah
illustrations.
Adam Curry: Nice cute Um, I like your little publishing Empire
you guys are putting together
John C Dvorak: yeah, there. Yeah. And I would recommend, by
the way, since we're actually in negotiations with another
publisher to do for the AIG book for them to take over the
distribution rights, if that happens, the I'm pretty sure on
this, I could talk him out of it, the PDF will end up going
away. So I recommend, which I think is I have my arguments for
why you should PDF all these products. But
Adam Curry: you know, this sounds suspiciously like an exit
strategy. Jhansi Dvorak?
John C Dvorak: No, no. And so it's it's a, it's a tax
strategy. Oh, and so, anyway, too many eggs.com that PDF file,
grab a copy just for your own good, that's
Adam Curry: too bad. Because I was thinking, Can we not do our
value for value book and have that we're
John C Dvorak: gonna do it. It's on the list. We got to do three
books next year. But
Adam Curry: can we export and we don't have an exit strategy? Can
I can I do this? Wait a minute, wait a minute. Can I do my own
old can I do my I was an MTV guidebook. Can we absolutely
held hostage by my hair? You know, stuff like that? Oh,
John C Dvorak: great title.
Adam Curry: Thank you. I want to exit John, I've done we need to
be planning for the future.
John C Dvorak: Just the thought well, with these kinds of
donations, which, for example, we had this promotion I pitched
about earlier, the shelf. Promotion was great. 1618. What
is it called? The Golden Golden Ratio, Golden Ratio, he got a
total of three donations for $16.18. A little less than, you
know, a typical promotion. Definitely doesn't keep up with
the Ph. D. program.
Adam Curry: There was no But uh, yeah, yeah, up me. I want this
face it. People don't like math. They don't like the golden
ratio, like the golden ratio. And that's okay. We've had other
flops, the golden ratio gets no respect. So we have this whole
concept. I actually went on a Twitter spaces the other day.
Oh, god, that was rough. You know what I did at Twitter
spaces, spaces, spaces,
John C Dvorak: spaces.
Adam Curry: It's like a chat room with on voice with a whole
bunch of people on Twitter. And but I had to install the app.
John C Dvorak: It'd be dreadful.
Adam Curry: Well, you. Yeah, it is. You have to install the app.
And then you get called up on stage.
Unknown: Oh, God.
Adam Curry: I was explaining value for value, which is always
fun. You said we've been doing this for 16 years. So it works.
People get with the program. Listen to our donation segment.
People love us. Then it's about the feedback loop. You got to
get to read the notes. You got to tell people you got to get to
thank people. It's very smart, then it's not just money. It's
time talent or treasure. That's the important part. Because we
technically have made more by spending less. Now building
website, can you imagine if we had to build our own website?
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Or
John C Dvorak: hire artists to do the art of
Adam Curry: well, you You led me right to it? Or how about a
combo of that? What if you had a guy who built a place where
artists could upload? And, and okay, so sometimes things go
wrong and it breaks. But Sir Paul couture, not only did he
fix no agenda art generator.com But he upgraded it. We can you
imagine the meeting we have to have with our provider? Hey, we
would like a refresh of no agenda art generator.com They'd
be piling on the bills. That
John C Dvorak: mean a million dollar site if it was going to
be $6 million.
Adam Curry: Bev has to have meetings all kinds of horrible
things we don't like and so what do we get we get a beautiful new
site from Sir Paul
John C Dvorak: you know, what's interesting about the site I'd
go say this now as far as I'm concerned is original site was
fine. Because I'm one of those it's fine. Yeah. graded it to
the headless Drupal wherever the last one was, and it was just a
such an improvement. It was unbelievable. And so then he
goes I said, Well, what do you got? Why would you improve that?
Course you know me, I'm the one with the divorce.org/and That's
Adam Curry: fine. Have blink tags and red ball dark. I don't
have blink
John C Dvorak: or cats running across the screen. But I could
imagine Yes, so did he upgrades to this ridiculously modern site
is like beyond you. I mean, this guy should be working for I
don't know who But IBM are some was some big money outbreak. I
mean, it's so modern. It is very, I mean, the other one was
modern. The one before that was modern. But to keep up and make
it modern, on top of modern, and if
Adam Curry: you notice little things like the artists icon is
in there, you know, the artist profile page shows up in the
artwork. It has just has all kinds of metadata. Whoo, that's
expensive metadata is It is phenomenal. And it's a little
slow. But I think that's just you know, he'll be good
optimize. And it just it has leaderboards, it has all the
artists profiles. You load up the page, it shows you how many
images 31.1 1000 images, how many artists 1400 artists?
John C Dvorak: This is great. Oh, yes, every artist. Yeah,
Adam Curry: thank you, Sir Paul couture. We really appreciate if
you see Paul, you know, go hug him. Might give him a big hug.
He
John C Dvorak: needs it.
Adam Curry: Give him a hug. Yeah, it took him a couple of
weeks. You know, he had the crash last month. Yeah. But you
know what's beautiful about it? We just like, okay, that's fine.
Because it's value for values. Like you wouldn't have to get
mad. I'd have to be calling John. Like you hired the guy.
You finish. You fix it.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's actually what happens.
Especially with psychos like you
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, no, call me a psycho. Okay.
John C Dvorak: This was reminds me of the This is Adam back in
the day at at me, you know, whatever was a bad show
originally. Okay, here we go real casually smoking dope. He's
not in the office that much. But he's there once in a while. So
he sent me this. He's very lackadaisical. Yeah, even
people, you know, people should put in a full day's work and I
don't see a big deal by coming in on time. Or, you know, you
just gotta get in there. Do what you have to do and and get out.
So one day we decided to go he he decided to go in front of the
office. As people are coming in late streaming in late. With him
standing there going us make it smell dope.
Adam Curry: I was still smoking dope, dope. Oh,
John C Dvorak: I'm glad you can make it. Oh, did you check the
time? What what time? Is it? Oh, good. I'm glad you could come
in. I'm glad you came in. And I was giving him grief. And I
Adam Curry: was standing there with you. We were I was
flabbergasted. It got to the point where people just showed
up at noon. Like, come on people. We have an office for
this is not COVID it was way before COVID. Anyway, anyway,
John C Dvorak: by the way, the mention of the of the Art
Generator brought it to its knees once again. Of course.
Adam Curry: No agenda art generator.com. Thank you, Sir
Paul couture. And thank you to Dame Kenny Ben, who brought us
the outstanding artwork for episode 1617. We titled that
torque in Russians, which we we both thought that was a good
title. And the hohoho ozempic Santa Claus that got lots of
traction. People thought that was hilarious. That it was
hilarious. And it's not often that you get such a compact,
beautiful, just a nugget of of beauty. You know, with with it
was a takeoff it was a parody. It was well, well illustrated.
It was the whole thing was was professional. Again, something
we could never have afforded you. Can you imagine Hey, can
you we got to this title is torque and Russians, can you
whip up an image for us? That, by the way, has nothing to do
with torquing? Russians? Oh, what? You didn't listen to the
show? No, because what are artists do? They're listening to
the show and they're doing the stuff on the fly. It's amazing.
It is a true testament to value for value. And we are incredibly
grateful to all of our artists. Someone that said, You're being
performative.
John C Dvorak: When I say does that mean? Well, nice regard it
Adam Curry: on the last show, I said we'd like to thank that.
That's performative. Just say thank you. That's a good point.
Politicians do that.
John C Dvorak: So thank you, if you would like to say about
that.
Adam Curry: Yeah. That's another one. Thank you, artists. Thank
thank all of you. And especially Dame Kenny, Ben, we appreciate
you so much. Now let's go to the treasure part of the value for
value model. This is where we thank our executive and
Associate Executive producers and everybody who supported us
with monetary donations up to we are down to $50. And this is
really the stuff that keeps us going and we start off with a
MCI we have a handwritten note here from Emily Andrews, and she
is in Salina, Texas. And it come up with a whopping 1465 I'm
loading her note which is handwritten. And she says Dear
John, Adam, I last donated with a shout out with a with a short
thank you and you guys seemed Haven't seen something that the
note wasn't longer, though seemed down the note was so
Okay, so she decided to write a longer note. I'm writing the why
I originally heard about you guys from mo fax. I really
appreciate listening to you guys over COVID hearing about KNC
capital and getting some laughs in about the state of affairs
instead of agonizing over yes that's what we do. The check is
a percentage of my annual bonus from my employer. Wow, that's
some tithing right there. That's
John C Dvorak: the way to do it.
Adam Curry: i Oh, what are we drinking? Polar seltzer? Boring
brings up good next show. I consider your show to be a
ministry and appreciate your genuine efforts to shepherd the
divine flock God has brought to your podcast Wow. For giggles I
listened to podcast one to 20 That's episode 120. Adam, I can
hear the evidence of work the work God has done in you God
bless you both your sister in Christ Emily Andrews. aihole He
was That's right. It's It's so true. Notice I don't cuss? I've
stopped that.
Unknown: Yeah, well that's yeah.
Adam Curry: And and in fact, people have noticed that you've
costing more
John C Dvorak: I because I think there's a cuss cost balance ACUs
median that we have to achieve to have the proper cost balance
Adam Curry: you have so there's so many bright okay, I
John C Dvorak: didn't cuss on today's show at all. No, you
did. And I usually just cut for effect you cussed as part of
your vocabulary that was Yeah,
Adam Curry: I did it a lot actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
John C Dvorak: Well we have your I have I
Adam Curry: have people emailing so thank you now I don't I can
listen around my kids again. Except for that clip you brought
Thank you Emily. The kids love their kids
John C Dvorak: understand cutting jobs. Good luck with
that. Europe No, I'm sorry dude named Ralph comes up next and
he's in with 550 which is nice in Miami, Florida. John and Adam
thank you for the outstanding work you do on no agenda the
magical combination of YouTube and the incredible new agenda
producers make this show the best podcast in the universe.
Inspired by something wise John said I reviewed my donation
history and I happily discovered that the PhD contribution also
contribute qualify me for title of Baron I would like to be
known as the Baron dude name by the way, just to stop right
here. There's a number of people and there's a list of them on
the no agenda rings.com site who've gotten there got the PhD
during the promotion is promotions over and they've
never sent in the details of where they want the diploma sent
or anything else Oh, please go and do that. Before the printer
breaks inspired by blah blah blah they can be known as barren
dude named after the suburban South Florida. I would like
Mohit toes and let China Sato Cuban style roasted pig for the
roundtable. I got it. I made two Christmas donations today to
share 550 from a
Adam Curry: work bonus again again work bonus beautiful work
bonus,
John C Dvorak: no agenda and 1618 for a show number donation
I humbly request jobs Carmody Helton knows for a show number
donation and not that magic circle. I humbly request jobs
comedy helped me as I embark on the next chapter of my career
respectfully dude named Ralph. Magic
Adam Curry: Circle is called the Golden Ratio. Magic Circle jobs,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs. That's our money
Adam Curry: and we got Lacey be in Lake Mills Wisconsin. 333 33
favorite donation number Merry Christmas. Happy New Year to you
John Adam and to your better halves, the back office, your
loved ones and all have no agenda nation and jingle bingo
to the OBD M crossover crowd. This donation puts me over the
mark to qualify as a dame the title Dame Lucy will suffice. I
talk too much in real life. So I keep this note short. Thank you
for your courage, love and light to all Lacey B Lake Mills
Wisconsin. Thank you. Thank you very much Lacey B.
John C Dvorak: Alright, so I have to finally say hit it just
right. I have to take a quick look at the note listener
Adam Curry: keep talking in the mic though because you're
dropping out. I
John C Dvorak: am got CIM a turbo turbo turbo Tim. Three,
three 3.33 And I don't have a location for him. But I do have
a note which has been which is which has been m turbo
handwritten note that on a piece of Bri hole punch student paper
in Morning John and Adam. I finally gotten my rear in gear
on and here I sent you to some much deserved treasure please de
douche me.
Unknown: You've been de deuced I just
John C Dvorak: realized that episode 1617 adds up to 33. And
I'll be 33 on the 22nd of this month. I knew it was time. Nice.
So that's interesting. We could have cut that to 1617. Yeah,
another way when it made a difference. Mike, the wood watch
guy introduced me to your show about three years ago, I worked
for a forklift repair company in Detroit for over eight years as
a mobile forklift and diesel engine repair technician. It's a
good job. Yes, they kept getting on my ass about my mask. So I
wrote in big letters. You're a slave across the front and wore
it proudly to every customer location as I went from, from
spark conversations, and wow went to spark conversations and
spew truth for you, man. Yeah, like that's ballsy. I quit after
refusing to take the jab and started my own small forklift
and diesel truck repair business then moved to Capek, Michigan
Hey
Adam Curry: pack a pack
John C Dvorak: the plan to so electric the plan to go Electric
is hilarious because our world literally functions because of
diesel. The EPA has had had an American hold on has has a has a
hard on Oh harder for a diesel but not in other countries.
Anyone who hears DPF def and engine D rate will be triggered
by this totally crap they make you put in the course. Yeah,
pigs urine. Yeah, pig urine. Just yeah. Unbelievable. This is
my first start to knighthood. And if I have any questions
about the diesel industry feel, feel free to email me that's
nice. I bet you're doing very well. In your little own your
own company. John is pronounced K Pak. As Adam just told me,
please send it send the sparkplug Oh, he sent Oh, he
sent to spark plug keychains Oh, and he sent these little
trinkets. I have to say they're pretty cute. But I didn't. I
didn't get mine. Because I have it I have yours that people send
them to me and he they have to wait till they accumulate and
they'll send you a box. And so the whole package smelled like
every pair garage. And I snapped I saved Chase if this guy if
this guy is a repairman. No doubt about it.
Adam Curry: Let me give you a little tip. If Jhansi Dvorak
ever comes up to you and says, Hey, sniff this walk away. Walk
away. But you'd like that. Yes. Well, that's cool, man. Thank
you so much. And I also want to thank everyone who sent all
these beautiful things to the PIO box. I got fudge I got the
coffee. I got the coffee from those guys. Gigawatt gigawatt
guys
John C Dvorak: yeah the fudge the Okay, the fudge came in who
I know of I don't have the note here on the fudge. I got the
fudge fudge came in kind of as a mess but I have to say this if
you can dig through there and find the peanut butter divinity
Oh, okay. It border light border this border line. Unbelievable.
Yeah, I believe Yeah, like makes a Reese's peanut butter you
wouldn't ever have another one Yeah, Google they Nailed it.
Nailed it. The rest of the stuff is good but these the peanut
whoever that I like to get that recipe
Adam Curry: I got sir scoops I got your big box of of your your
pirate to your pirate show. I got
John C Dvorak: stuff from diesel.
Adam Curry: No, I didn't get it from DS. I did get some death.
Death demand. No, no. Oh, yes. Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, that's
right. Yeah, and start and stickers and magnets and all
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anonymous air traffic controller. Oh, goodness. Oh,
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He's got stuff about see 130 shooting lasers down to the
ground. There really? Yeah. At the FAA. You know, send out
memos like hey, you know if you guys have every right to tell
the C 130 with a laser to not shoot the laser. Alright.
Thanks. I got a pastor who says thank you for not cussing, and
got Lindsey who says it's been a joy to listen to the podcast
with my 11 year old now. It's not as explicit as it used to Be
Thanks, John for that clip set for the dog. But yeah. Well,
that's funny. That's funny. Just so many things. Thank you all so
much. It was it was amazing to go to the PIO box. I couldn't
believe all the stuff that that everybody is sent to. So nice.
And also thank you to Ryan Powell from Edward Washington.
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John C Dvorak: when one more thing I wonder, do we ever think
the guy who sent us the flight, the Air Force One jackets? Yeah,
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jacket. By the
Adam Curry: way his son got that his son, son got those for us.
Yeah. Ryan Powell 333 says for my wife's 50th birthday on the
18th so it's a switcheroo. I'm still a douchebag but Christmas
is coming soon. Thanks, guys. So he doesn't want to be do she
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we'll just say Mrs. Powell.
John C Dvorak: Mrs. Powell. Mrs. Powell. says what we'll do Eric
go wielka in Auburn, Alabama. I ATM the citizen Adam and
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Adam Curry: And he says please break for a night major jobs
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John, you seem to be an expert on native ads. I find it
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Adam Curry: taking deals on the side man.
Unknown: I wish right?
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our meetups. Tonight notes because we have some nice things
this is from Bernie Glyn he says I nearly choked on my mac and
cheese recently when I discovered that you clowns would
honor a knighthood status if I paid in Australia Australian
dollars well easy with the mac and cheese man since I've paid
well more than paid well more than 800 US dollars over the
years which calculates to 1194 point 39 australian dollar
reduce I hereby claim knighthood status yes that's correct. If
this makes me a black knight it doesn't. I would like to I'd
like to be known as Sir best Boyd of Blair MT is not going to
be a black night that's only if we mess it up. Yes, you observe
best avoid night of blame as I've said regular donation to
you guys to ease my guilt please do you do? You've been de
deuced. For the roundtable. I only ask that you both be there
at my investiture ceremony for the sizzling repartee. Yes, it
will be there Bernie Lim and a note from Chris palamos. Who
says thank you for thanks for all you do keeping us sane. I'd
like to be anointed sir Fetta of the armpit of Eastern Ontario
requests Metaxa seven star and a century Sam blunt. Thanks from
Chris. Chris.
John C Dvorak: Chris atmosphere is not that easy to come by
Chris or Christ
Adam Curry: or anything. It's Chris palmos we think he goes by
Christ Chris but I think by Chris and then a very happy
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John C Dvorak: It does work sometimes.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And I think he reversed it because you know, he
was afraid of getting the lesbian face so thank you. Thank
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We appreciate you Executive Associate exec
Unknown: our formula is this. We go out we get people in the
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Adam Curry: Ryan Powell wishes his wife a happy birthday she
turned 50 on the 18th Dame Courtney Scarlett V Chicago Kate
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Adam Curry: you heard earlier, we have two title changes today
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Fairy Baron of the region and dude named Ralph becomes barren
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Adam Curry: We had that emergency jobs karma that are
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nights to go here so let's get out your blades a regular one
that's a nice one. I like that jewel on that on the end there
and it's kind of cool look at least come on up Bernie Glen
Chris Powell most Marshall Bannon all of you are about to
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Adam Curry: Hands down the companion to the podcast is
meeting up with your fellow slaves of Gitmo nation to human
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Unknown: Everybody's beautiful. Have a Merry Christmas in the
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Adam Curry: and to the point we appreciate that got a written
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Which was on the ones that that was yesterday. They had it at
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Adam Curry: you Yes. Giant party. It's great party. It's a
no agenda party. I'm so confident about my ISO for
today. I'm gonna let you go first. I'm only going to play
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John C Dvorak: sure you got a good one bye minor all off beat.
Adam Curry: Okay, which one do we start with?
John C Dvorak: Start with decide.
Unknown: Let the people decide. Hmm. Okay,
John C Dvorak: let's both be to say the least. Let's go to
Fantastic. Fantastic. Okay, to be dead. Okay, and then last
save you.
Unknown: I'm here to save you.
Adam Curry: That's pretty good. And I wouldn't say that normally
would have won the prize. We're not for this one. Merry
Unknown: Christmas, you
filthy perverts.
Adam Curry: Come on. Come on. That's as winner written all
over, don't you think?
John C Dvorak: I think is such a bad example. And is funny. Come
Adam Curry: on. It's funny. It's fantastic.
Unknown: All right, now it's time for
GDC
Adam Curry: good news, everybody, John. Well, let's to
be more specific. Mimi has scoured the internet finding
some news.
John C Dvorak: I have to get. I have to sort through them. And
so I picked this one. This is a woman who this is just one of
those heart. This is a good news story about a woman who got
graduated and she and she graduated with her baby with
her. And this was cute.
Unknown: And it was another special graduation day at Ferris
State University over the weekend. A woman graduated
walking across the stage with her newborn baby nestled into
her now, Grace Szymczak was supposed to have a C section
today. Actually, it said baby girl Annabelle came 10 days
early. Grace said she had been working hard at her degree in
early childhood education. She wasn't letting anything stop her
from walking on graduation day. That just meant she had
Annabelle strapped into her baby carrier with her the whole time.
And
I kind of hope it inspires another mom to like go back to
school and like show that she can do it too. I hope to see her
walk across the stage one day to whichever college or university
she chooses. without me having to carry her and
she says baby Annabelle actually did very well and did not fuss
the entire ceremony. Now Grace will be teaching full time with
preschoolers at a strong Beginnings program in Traverse
City. I
really give her a lot of credit. You're
you talk to her. I
mean, she's pretty incredible.
I honestly I'm just shocked that the newborn baby was calm that
entire ceremony because those can be really long ceremonies.
That's very impressive. But what a great memory for him really?
Oh,
Adam Curry: a great memory. And it's so politically incorrect
because you know, it's a birthing person, not a mom. So I
like that about the clip. I thought that was excellent. And
you know, Jay was just that was a wholesome clip. Very good. It
made me find that one. Did you find that one?
John C Dvorak: She found that one but there was something in
there that to me was disconcerting that may or may or
disconcerting. disconcert it may or may not be noticeable. But
how she has the baby 10 days before she's scheduled to have a
C section. I
Adam Curry: know that's weird, isn't it?
John C Dvorak: Say guy yeah, you're gonna have weed looks
like this be your due date. We're gonna give you a C
section. This is today's modern hospital environment. They just
see sex. Money
Adam Curry: extra naughty women money. Money is more money.
Yeah, you
John C Dvorak: get a man you get him out. It costs more perfect.
Adam Curry: Another good news story.
Unknown: A good news story from JCD happy vibes for you and me.
And we all feel better. Now he's done his bit. To back to
reality. That's turning to shit. Good
Adam Curry: news. Every single no agenda show everybody our
feet are wrapped in good news. And we love it that way. And
that concludes our deconstruction date, which we
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Z and Sir Michael Anthony. That'll be the last one. I
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John C Dvorak: No, he's talented guy.
Adam Curry: That's what I mean. No AI can can rack it up against
our talented people. And that's you. You are the producers of
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John C Dvorak: And I'm from Northern Silicon Valley where it
rained yesterday is nice today and it's gonna rain tomorrow.
I'm John C. Dvorak. We return
Adam Curry: on Sunday, which will be Christmas Eve right
after Darren O'Neal's rock and roll pre Christmas show. Until
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Jaffery had word Epstein had an island full of love kittens,
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the deep state assets. Were afraid if he's already noticed
they didn't want their sex crimes posted to the internet.
So one moggy New York night, the Glen den cartel K glitched in
the guards naps while Jeffrey Epstein's neck was then all the
media coverage. sad it was a mystery. You're not allowed to
protest and we're blaming China Merry Christmas to filthy animal
Oh global citizens visit Santa Klaus I am checking my list to
see who is being naughty or nice. According to ESG first
punishment will be for the climate change deniers if you
are not eat Do not worry. We will not put a lump of coal in
your stocking coal is made of carbon and carbon is bought in
by ESG. So we will just take your stocking wounds or other
gifts you will get nothing or be happy. Another tradition is a
leaving of cookies on the middle class and these cookies must be
100% Vegan owns a milk must be soy milk under ESG will be no
more cow milk wound of course no more meat. You may also leave
for Santa's cookies made basic like get flour with a glass of
cockroach milk but even I will not eat this. You will eat this
maybe not this year, maybe not next year, but we still have
plenty of time to implement agenda 2030 So now is the
opportunity for giving hugs exchanging gifts and eating that
makes them most sustainable freedom Visalia still got it V.
World Economic Forum Wish You a Merry Christmas and a Happy New
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