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from the heart of the Texas Hill
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number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry and

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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley where everybody's cutting

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Adam Curry: buzzkill Oh yeah,
that's over. That is over. It's

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John C Dvorak: Goodbye. Like, I
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Richard Haass Yeah. Moment on
Morning Joe, Ernie. Joe. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: that was it. That
was the that was the gauge was

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John C Dvorak: the signal was
this signified to tell these

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people It's over once it take
the orders.

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Adam Curry: Is it like mid
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John C Dvorak: at the top of the
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Adam Curry: Cut it out. Done.
It's over. I mean, you saw the

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the articles that there's some
secret agreement between the US

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and Germany the insiders are
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was built who had that article.

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John C Dvorak: What it even
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these clips. Oh,

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Adam Curry: he could share
retrieved becomes prepared.

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John C Dvorak: Okay. About Boris
Johnson. Ah,

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Adam Curry: the warmonger the
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John C Dvorak: And this was I
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out. It hasn't hit it's not
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around the world. You should

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Adam Curry: probably set it up a
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just so people understand.

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Disgust. Yeah, but so people
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happening here. What has got to
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John C Dvorak: Johnson kills
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last year. But the UK leader at
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that they could have pressed us
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war if we accepted neutrality,
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we make a commitment to not join
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This is the first time that a
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close associate of President
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the negotiation team from
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that these rumors were indeed
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almost a place that Russia
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Ukraine wouldn't join NATO. And
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himself, came to Kev and he said
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agreement with the Russians
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was the turning point, allegedly
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came out and said to Cabal until
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Adam Curry: know, Boris Johnson
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he was no longer Prime Minister.
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COVID scandals. It's a bit like
when I told Joe Rogan to move to

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Austin, and then he moved in, I
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are all these tents everywhere?
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country. He's

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John C Dvorak: like getting into
move there. As you're leaving

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here, buy my place.

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Adam Curry: By my place for 20
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What do you think he must have?
There must have been some more.

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Some more in the deal there for
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say hey, don't sign it. He must
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Here's some numbers. If you
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John C Dvorak: There may be
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really fully explained in these
clips. I have a lot of them. No,

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because it goes really kind of
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have not heard that I at least
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let's go to are tuned, there's a
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hundreds of 1000s of Ukrainian
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swaths of the country,
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talking about negotiations
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that a senior Ukrainian official
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details. And this comes, comes
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publications around the world,
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officials in Europe and America,
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negotiations, the words peace,
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something that seemingly was
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when there were these these
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victory through military means,
at this point, it is important

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to mention that at this time,
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in Ukraine are punishable by
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are bound by law, a decree
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Do you know that? No,

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Adam Curry: of course not.

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John C Dvorak: Well, you know,
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bands, the church. That's what
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and there's this little element,
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Adam Curry: news reporting is
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John C Dvorak: Well, so they're
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generally speaking with stuff
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their factcheck. He's not bad.
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John C Dvorak: There's like,
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that's interesting, fishy in and
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of protests in Tel Aviv,

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Adam Curry: though Yeah, we got
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John C Dvorak: a bunch of
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Adam Curry: even here last
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month, Ukraine passed a law
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with Russia. It's not exactly
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John C Dvorak: Also, maybe in
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Adam Curry: Well, that's part
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talk about it stuff coming up
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1000s of men who are abroad, in
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world trying to trying to dodge
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mobilization, they will ask the
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simple, was it worth it? Was it
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condemning hundreds of 1000s to
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to do was sign a peace agreement
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John C Dvorak: So now it now the
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and go to clip four where they
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analysts, Tara Reid, and

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Adam Curry: Terry, she went from
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assault, to podcaster to
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Unknown: earlier, my colleague,
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US senate staff member, Tara
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the chain of events was this
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to negotiate this pig peace
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March. And then in April, Boris
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put a stop to it and said,
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do this for two reasons. He gave
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the West doesn't want this war
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to Vladimir Putin. That was his
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course, being you know, the
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United States in this proxy war,
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via Ukraine, capitulated and,
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continues. Now you've lost a
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result of a piece that could
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will came out in even Ukrainian
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in July, you saw some
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that Boris Johnson put a stop to
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in some of the major Oh,

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shock. Horror. Yeah, you're
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wouldn't report this. Right. But
honestly, though, right. I mean,

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look, Boris Johnson. He goes to
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scuttled the talks. This could
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of past 1000s of people, Tara,
why do you think why do you

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think? Because for such a long
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political and media landscape
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talk peace, Russia won't
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Adam Curry: Now, just so I
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just let it be wherever it was?
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we're not good for it. Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: on James Baker
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telling Russia Hey, don't worry
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Adam Curry: a man doing Hey,
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writing. Okay. If it's not in
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John C Dvorak: So yeah, that's
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the terror read thing is
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why. Which is something I didn't
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Adam Curry: She and you know,
who brought her there? Is the

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John C Dvorak: redhead, right.
The red head dude. Yeah, the

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Adam Curry: red head, but the
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the Republican Party, Patrick
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a while. Yeah, the Overstock
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John C Dvorak: I mean, he's
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Adam Curry: Theory carry this so
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John C Dvorak: A credible
accusation against Biden being a

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creep. Gee, we never noticed
that before. And she gets

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rebuked by the Republicans, or
by I'm sorry, by the Democrats.

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And I guess she gets so many
threats. And she gives up on the

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idea of actually, you know,
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whistleblower about Biden being
a creep. And she ends up going

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defecting to Russia,

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Adam Curry: just so you
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to speak, she was invited to
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from and she was cagey about it.
Because I heard a whole

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interview with her. I think it
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interviewed her of all people.
And she's and she said, Yeah,

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I'm getting worried that if I go
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arrested immediately. So that's
why she stayed. And that's and

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that's when she was, you know,
like Snowden was given a Russian

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John C Dvorak: But she was
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to me, the irony is that she
starts off you know, turret,

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calling out Biden for being a
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the woman score, and she goes to
Russia now all she does is do

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of the key to these these
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John C Dvorak: uncovered by the
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John C Dvorak: It's like nobody
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Adam Curry: that? She's
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. So wow,
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unraveling. So I think they have
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Adam Curry: a second. So do you
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because of this? Or because it's
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John C Dvorak: think this is an
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straw that broke the camel's
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laundering issues. There's the
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piece a year ago would have
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Adam Curry: And you've you've
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deals, it's, it's so common
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any of it anymore. What's the
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reasons for is just not
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to something in our clips, it'll
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their CDC is moaning about 15%
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boosters 15% of American public
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Adam Curry: more than I lose
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John C Dvorak: Well, that's
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word has gotten out. And it's in
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Adam Curry: masking it. I mean,
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John C Dvorak: But 50% of the
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Vladimir Putin, President Putin
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of how Russia was withdrawing
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uh, you know, meet with this
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NATO. And these were the two
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Boris Johnson intervene. Now,
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behalf of the US, as well as the
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here's more money, but you know
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political landscape, they keep
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Adam Curry: almost, it's almost
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be corruption of the Biden crime
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industrial complex, if it's
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the military industrial complex,
who wanted the trillion dollars

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after we pulled out of
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locate? I don't know. I don't. I
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John C Dvorak: just can't
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the Pentagon. It just makes no
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Adam Curry: they're afraid
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John C Dvorak: it into pieces
and audit it can't do we have

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plenty of accountants looking
for work? Everybody's

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Adam Curry: on the take? Or
they're blackmailed in some

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John C Dvorak: There's gotta be
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there's a less clear,

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there's no stalemate anywhere

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across the board. Yeah, the West
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anymore. They haven't got the
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don't have the money to send any
more Meantime, Russia continues

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to make progress stalemate.
There is no stalemate. Hello,

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Western press. If you're
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mate. How is this going to wrap
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got Biden, we've got the
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that of course, the political
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the image that Ukraine is
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Russia will lose? How are we
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just in time for the election?
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to light and Congress, all of
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with with Ukraine and the money
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the politicians that are
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to do duck and cover and people
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to negotiate. They've been doing
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Adam Curry: Okay, I gotta say,
Tara Reid talks a good game.

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John C Dvorak: sounds like a
like a pro.

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Adam Curry: Like a Pro. Yeah, I
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didn't I mean, she'd be doing
those podcasts. You know that

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that warms her up?

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John C Dvorak: Well, she do
podcasts, it'll make you a pro.

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Adam Curry: now there's a
classic bumper sticker.

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Podcasting will make you a pro.
I think CNN is already starting

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to move the conversation about
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It's no It's no longer about the
big money. Remember Zelinsky

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just give me credit, man. Just
give me credit for the billions

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of credit. give me credit. No
and give me your credit. You got

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100 million here Shut up. No, I
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Eric Schmidt solution

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Unknown: that elsewhere tonight
in Ukraine there is no end in

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sight to the fighting this week
and irritated Russian President

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President Putin rejected the
obvious that Russia is pursuing

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a brutal war of aggression in
Ukraine student has been

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tracking stories of sacrifice
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Anna Coren reports on the
ordinary men and women who are

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now teaming up with drone
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Adam Curry: Here you go drone
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Unknown: on the outskirts of
Kea. The soldier puts on a pair

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of goggles to open TX. She's
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latest batch of drones have just
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Ukrainian troops on the eastern
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tables. They can be used for
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mission. I right

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Adam Curry: there. I'm already
really skeptical, though. Okay,

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so now civilians are at home at
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John C Dvorak: Now this Yes, I
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anything about it because it
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here's this is like the Chinese
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steel mills in everyone's
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Adam Curry: Well, they did have
smelters, and smelters, they had

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John C Dvorak: of molten stuff
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same thing. This is useless.
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Unknown: a grassroots movement.
Ocasio Bucha. In the Rachel

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Maddow grassroots army of
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including Vera and Alexander,
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same. Their operation has taken
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apartment. He makes drone parts
with these 3d printer. Oh, yeah.

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Adam Curry: 3d printer making
drone parts. They

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Unknown: work acknowledged by
grateful troops in back mod who

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sent them Ukraine's Coat of Arms
made of bullets. The British

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also question one person instead
of getting married and having a

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wedding, we spend that money to
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happy without gold rings. But
with the drones, the

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drone companies like victory
drones training to help build

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Silicon Valley would want.

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creating Ukraine's drone
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drones, it's small drones. This
small Yeah, this is probably

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John C Dvorak: is bigger than a
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Adam Curry: smaller than a
predator here. Here's the lancy.

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Go build some drones to then
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battery on top, you have a
perfect shell, which is a guided

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Volunteer and soldier Gennady
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industrial output, Ukraine must
innovate while there will be no

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future. He's already lost his
best friend seen here in this

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video singing lullabies to their
children. He knows too well the

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painful price of this.

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I lost already. And obviously we
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otherwise the the sacrifice was
fruitless. There you go. Even

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the next generation is getting
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training school kids, some as
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My name is Sofia, I'm six years
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protecting the country.

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education system. There you go.
Anna Coren,

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Adam Curry: CNN. This is This is
disgusting. Your Tara Reed was

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right. A generation of men
slaughtered for no reason other

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than for the military industrial
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crap we sent him so we could
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and in Europe, and the money
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had the clips of the European
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hey, you know, if we don't get
any orders, we're not I'm going

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to build so until you get an
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but it'll take a year, because
there's no orders. The money's

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John C Dvorak: has to be done.

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Adam Curry: So now and now
they're indoctrinating six year

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olds to fly drones for your for
your country. Yeah, it's this

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whole is evil. The whole system
is evil. It's pretty bad. Can't

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think of any other terms. Just
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John C Dvorak: evil. Yeah. Okay.
And then nobody seems to think

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this is sick. When you lose
this, and these reports are

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Adam Curry: heartbreaking. It's
heartbreaking. Yeah.

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John C Dvorak: I must be dealing
with this. No. By the way, I

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thought all the kids were
rousted from Ukraine and sent

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the bowl and taken to Russia.
And every question between now

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Adam Curry: here we go. So now
we get to the disinformation and

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there's something going on right
now. There's a push and it's

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global. It's United Nations
related. And this a couple of

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things just kept on coming
through, kept coming through.

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I'm like, hold on a second. What
is happening here and I

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discovered something that fits
right in with the canary in the

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coal mine was the Westminster
declaration. Remember the

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Westminster declaration Laya
which is a bunch of a bunch of

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bloggers and podcasters all?
Well, meaning I'm sure Mata eby

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Glenn Greenwald.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's of
course they're well meaning and

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no, oh,

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Adam Curry: no, we article 19.
Article 19 is all about article

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19. of the universal human
rights declaration. I'll get to

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that in a minute. But first,
let's see. This came out over a

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week ago, and this was yet
another kind of red flags saying

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something is coming. Because of
course Kathy Hall Cole, the

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unelected governor of New York
is going to be in on the elitist

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messaging.

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Unknown: Today I'm directing the
director of Division of Homeland

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Security and Emergency Services
to develop media literacy tools

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for K through 12. In our public
schools, this will teach

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students and even teachers to
help understand how to spot

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conspiracy theories and
misinformation disinformation

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and online hate. Start talking
about what we're seeing out

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there. Give the teachers the
tools they need to help these

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conversations in school. And by
teaching younger New Yorkers

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about how to discern between
digital fact and fiction, we can

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better inoculate them inoculate
from hatred and the spread of

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it. And to prepare them for a
very fast moving and often

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confusing world. We

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Adam Curry: identified this
stuff year like a decade ago,

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when the bullying laws when
bullying in school became

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bullying laws and was all hate
speech and hate laws. And very

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ill defined what is hate. What
is hate speech. And of course

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this is now rearing its ugly
head in Europe with the

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parliamentary well, with the win
of with the majority win of

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seats in the House of Parliament
in the Netherlands here at

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builders not enough to to govern
he needs a coalition. And of

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course no one wants to go along
with the hate speech guy.

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Unknown: Hello and welcome to
Talking Europe. It's an election

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result that has sent shockwaves
across the EU. Dictation

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dictations. The Dutch far right
Freedom Party has won 37 seats

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well ahead of its rivals. It's
led by a man who has long been

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the best noir of European
liberals and Muslims bet

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wielders,

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Adam Curry: the bet Noir. Is
that the black sheep the bet bet

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and why isn't a black sheep is
that French fur? That's why it

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John C Dvorak: has a very
specific we should look it up so

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we can read it. Yes, it has a
very specific meaning in a

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political sense. Yeah. Why don't

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Adam Curry: you look that up or
we listened to Labette Anwar

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Muslims

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Unknown: have wilderness
advocates. The de Islamization

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of the Netherlands, as well as
zero asylum seekers and tougher

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border management. Well,
migration and asylum is one of

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the key policy areas of my guest
today. Margarita Skinner's is

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the Vice President of the
European Commission, and he's

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coordinating the commission's
work on a new pact on migration

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and asylum.

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Adam Curry: So these are the
intro here is not far from the

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truth he had fielder's has said
look up no more asylum seekers.

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We're a small country. No more
Islamification make sense oh no

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more Islamification of the
country, which is very specific

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to the Netherlands. As you know,
statues have had to go street

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signs have had to go all these
things, the culture of the loved

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ones has all changed. You know,

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John C Dvorak: those that do are
mica

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Adam Curry: I'll bet Anwar tell
us

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John C Dvorak: no Rs a person a
did a simple definition, a

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person or thing. That one
particularly dislike su

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dislikes. Yes.

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Adam Curry: So the intro guy
here, I think it's France 24 is

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being reasonably true, because
there has been no at all and the

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end I guess the big problem for
the EU guy who's about to speak

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as guest is kidville. There's a
saying we should have a binding

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referendum always a problem.
Now, having phony baloney voting

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is one thing but now we are
binding referendum a whether the

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Netherlands should exit the EU a
so called negs it. That's really

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the problem. But let's see what
the EU immigration officer VP

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doodly doo says,

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Unknown: Is it a setback for the
European way of life? Well,

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this remains to be seen. 25% of
Dutch voters voted for good

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builders, but 75% didn't.

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Adam Curry: This is my favorite.
There's 17 or 18 parties,

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there's the animal party. You
can't just say they didn't vote

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for him as if well that, you
know, he's kind of insinuating

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they didn't

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John C Dvorak: like what he had
to say they makes it sound like

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a binary.

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Adam Curry: Exactly. It's not
thank you. It's not binary

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people voted for the 50 pluses
for the 50 Plus party which got

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zero seats in the house, not
thanks.

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Unknown: So when the government
will be formed, the first thing

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that would be quite interesting
to see is whether all this hate

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rhetoric that out there it is
shaped his campaign to

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Adam Curry: hate rhetoric that
shaped his campaign that is

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patently not true,

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Unknown: will be translated into
a government program that we

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don't know yet. So I would very
much like to give the next

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government a chance to see
whether their government program

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will reflect this hate speech
that we have been hearing during

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the campaign. In any case, the
European model of society is

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fully incompatible with any form
of discrimination or hate

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Phoebe's hating

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Adam Curry: something so yeah,
wow,

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John C Dvorak: this guy was just
a that's a biased report I've

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ever heard one. I have some
clips on this.

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Adam Curry: But do you want
okay, but but let me come back

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to my my hate speech because I'm
on a roll here.

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John C Dvorak: Okay, finish.

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Adam Curry: But what do you
have? Maybe it fits in? What

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John C Dvorak: do you notice
about the right wingers taking

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over the world? Oh, no, no, no,
no, we'll get back to that

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specifically Holland.

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Adam Curry: We'll get back to
that. It'll make sense. Because

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because I want to get back to
the Westminster declaration

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article 19. So taking place
right now, in Turkey, a turkey,

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turkey, turkey. Yay, is the what
do they call on this thing? The

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STRATCOM Summit.

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Unknown: In times of war and
crisis disinformation can be

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used as a powerful weapon to
spread lies to the masses. In an

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instance, in this certainties,
humanitarian and environmental

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crises and regional instability,
truth based transparent media

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has never been more important
truth

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Adam Curry: based transparent
media. Remember that? Remember

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that line? Good. Remember that

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Unknown: line addressing this
prominent leaders and experts

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from around the world are
gathered here in Istanbul for

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the international communications
strategic summit STRATCOM. The

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goal of the summit is to create
a clean communication ecosystem

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and the fight against
disinformation. With the rise of

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new technologies like did

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Adam Curry: you call a clean?
I'm gonna hear that again.

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Unknown: The goal of the summit
is to create a clean

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communication ecosystem, a clean
communication

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John C Dvorak: communication
ecosystem. So these guys are

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just full of themselves. Oh,
totally. Well, this is the

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meridian phrases that sound kind
of cool.

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Adam Curry: This is the money.
This is the money train and

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Unknown: the fight against this
information. With the rise of

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new technologies like AI. This
battle is getting even more

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challenging. The annual summit
is organized by the Republic of

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Turkey as Director of
Communications and is taking

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place over two days. This year's
theme is global response to

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hybrid threats, stability,
security, and solidarity. And

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the solidarity is evident here
with over 1000 participants, 60

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speakers from nearly 30
countries and 100 officials from

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over 40 countries when

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when you're talking about people
up to no good they're playing on

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the fact that emotionally people
get manipulated a lot. You have

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to be critical consumers of
information. Just as we read

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labels in the grocery store.
We're looking at the

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carbohydrates, gluten free.
We're not doing that enough

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online or the way we consume
information.

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But the battle against
disinformation doesn't end here.

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We each have a role to play as
we consume and share media will

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be Except it all his facts are
what we think critically about

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it.

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Adam Curry: So you're right what
that lady just said one of the

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attendees, that is what
newsguard does is putting a

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label, an ingredient that I hear
all day long from the podcast

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industrial complex. Well, yes,
we need labels on podcast so you

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know what you're getting if you
want to advertise on it, or you

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know what you're getting if you
are going to listen to it,

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because yes, this podcast
contains elements of Hitler,

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John C Dvorak: or what loves
Hitler,

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Adam Curry: stuff like that. So
what comes out is this this

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article from reclaim the net,
and it's actually it's a big

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kind of red herring. The
headline is World Economic Forum

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backs UNESCO's push to regulate
speech on social media pushes

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its own toolkit, digital safety,
which will tackle hate speech

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and cyber bullying. So the point
of this is to go and you know,

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look at

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John C Dvorak: it as like a
panic to me, if I've ever heard

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anything that sounds
desperation. Everything you're

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playing right now is it?

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Adam Curry: Well, it's a
distraction from what's really

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happening. So reclaimed, the net
is pointing you to go look at

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the World Economic Forum, those
douchebags they want to sense a

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speech on the air on social
media. And by the way, before we

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even dive into this, these two
documents BJU said one or two

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shows ago, this is the golden
age of the internet, golden age

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of podcasting. Because it's all
going to end all anything that

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you get from a platform is going
to end. And podcasting 2.0 Of

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00:36:38,190 --> 00:36:42,300
course, will not. And if you
still publish a blog with an RSS

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feed, you'll be okay. But
platforms are going away. And

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here's why. So once you dig into
this world economic forum

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article with their toolkit,
there's a little document from

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UNESCO. Now, for people who
don't know what UNESCO is. You

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get the the exact acronym,
United Nations Educational,

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00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,050
Scientific and Cultural
Organization usually only hear

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about UNESCO and as it pertains
to historical sites. Yeah, it's

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a UNESCO World sanctioned site.
But UNESCO is about education

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and scientific. So they come up
with this document guidelines

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for the governance of digital
platforms, safeguarding freedom

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of expression, and access to
information through a multi

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stakeholder approach. Remember,
United Nations is built of

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member states and stakeholders,
the United States being one of

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them. So they have guidelines
for an Internet of trust. What

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did we hear earlier was her
trust trustworthy media. I

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forget what that what

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John C Dvorak: that was. I'll
tell you what it was true. It

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was truth based transparent
media.

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Adam Curry: I have a couple
things highlighted safeguarding

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freedom of expression and the
right to information while

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dealing with dis admits
information. Remember, this is

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all coming from the Julie
Andrews of the Ministry of

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Truth. Remember, the singing
lady who was dismissed, was

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working for Homeland Security.
She got kicked out because this

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is all her terms. DISA
misinformation, okay. Dealing

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with DISA misinformation, hate
speech, and conspiracy theories.

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So you can't have conspiracy
theories now requires a multi

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stakeholder approach. Okay, so
yeah, they're like, alright,

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this is nothing new then they
have guidelines for the

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governance of digital platforms.
So I'm gonna scroll down here.

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There's a couple things I
highlighted which led me to the

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the key document as virtual
spaces for social interact. This

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is a 56 page document by the
way, as virtual spaces spaces

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for social interaction. They
digital platforms are beholden

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to algorithms designed to
monopolize our attention,

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inadvertently favoring
misinformation and hate speech

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by prioritizing prioritizing
clicks over certainty,

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probability and proof. Faced
with the global nature of these

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issues, we need to develop
consistent responses around the

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world and avoid the
fragmentation of regulations or

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approaches that compromise human
rights. It is precisely the

678
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global challenge to which UNESCO
must rise for it is at the core

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of our mandate. And here it is,
let us remain focused on our

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goal, combating hate speech and
misinformation while preserving

681
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freedom of expression. This is
this is not a contradiction, by

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both know what

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John C Dvorak: sounds like one
to me by

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Adam Curry: by bolstering access
to free and fair reliable

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information. We also enhance
freedom of thought and

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expression. Listen to this, by
bolstering so by making more

687
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access to free and reliable
information more, more

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00:40:14,070 --> 00:40:17,880
voluminous with that we actually
enhance freedom of thought and

689
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expression. As long as it's the
reliable information. In the

690
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words of Hannah aren't who was
Hannah. Alright, I should have

691
00:40:24,690 --> 00:40:26,160
looked her up. All right,

692
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John C Dvorak: Aaron Penner who
was very famous, I believe she

693
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was a sociologist or an
anthropologist or something

694
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along those lines, but she was,
she's a writer, and kind of,

695
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Adam Curry: I love you for
knowing I let him

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John C Dvorak: know I don't
remember too much about it.

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Adam Curry: In the words of Hana
aren't freedom of opinion is a

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farce, unless factual
information is guaranteed. And

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the facts themselves are not in
dispute. Dude, you grew up on

700
00:40:55,830 --> 00:40:57,330
that stuff? Yeah.

701
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John C Dvorak: Oh, it'd be like
Cal Berkeley. And Aaron was a

702
00:40:59,820 --> 00:41:03,810
German born American historian
and philosopher. She was one of

703
00:41:03,810 --> 00:41:07,860
the most influential political
theorists of the 20th century,

704
00:41:07,890 --> 00:41:08,940
of course, I'd read her.

705
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Adam Curry: So here comes here
comes the thing that led me

706
00:41:12,420 --> 00:41:16,710
right to the money shot. So now
they get into some of the, you

707
00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:20,130
know, this, a lot of words, a
lot of references. And remember,

708
00:41:20,580 --> 00:41:24,270
we're going back to the
Westminster declaration by some

709
00:41:24,270 --> 00:41:28,020
of the prominent podcasters and
bloggers in America saying, you

710
00:41:28,020 --> 00:41:32,160
know, these online, the online
platform shouldn't be censoring.

711
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Often, we're doing reporting,
and it's article 19 of the human

712
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rights. The guideline, here it
is point three, the guidelines

713
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,150
recognize the guidelines for
platforms, that the application

714
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of rules and regulations in
every governance system must

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00:41:49,710 --> 00:41:54,660
adhere to international human
rights standards, including with

716
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article 19, of the International
Covenant on Civil and Political

717
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Rights. Whoa, I read that
article 19. And I thought it was

718
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:08,160
of the Human Rights declaration,
but there's a different article

719
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19 Coincidentally, and that is
article 19, of the International

720
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Covenant on Civil and Political
Rights. I'll get to that in a

721
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,870
moment, which provides that any
restriction to fit freedom of

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expression must be provided by
law, again, any restriction to

723
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:32,640
freedom of expression must be
provided by law. pursue a

724
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,230
legitimate aim a set

725
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John C Dvorak: Oh, wait, wait.
It's a convoluted sentence. What

726
00:42:38,130 --> 00:42:40,800
Adam Curry: they're saying is if
so you have if you want to

727
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,400
restrict freedom of expression,
they don't say free freedom of

728
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,790
speech, they say freedom of
expression, you can as long as

729
00:42:47,790 --> 00:42:48,960
it's provided by law,

730
00:42:49,170 --> 00:42:53,550
John C Dvorak: God says hence,
the Lansky putting the lid on

731
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anybody using the word peace
negotiations Exactly.

732
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Adam Curry: Which provides that
any restriction to freedom of

733
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,280
expression must be provided by
law, pursue a legitimate aim as

734
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,730
set out in the provision that
must be necessary and

735
00:43:08,730 --> 00:43:15,720
proportionate. Okay, so then I
go to article 19, of the

736
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International Covenant on Civil
and Political Rights, the ICCPR.

737
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This is a 20 page document. And
it is best practices and lessons

738
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learned on how protecting and
promoting human rights

739
00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:38,250
contribute to preventing and
countering violent extremism. So

740
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this is how they lay out how
free expression is protected

741
00:43:43,410 --> 00:43:47,790
unless we make a law against
something which just which we

742
00:43:47,790 --> 00:43:52,440
all agree just can't can't
happen. The submission focuses

743
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,610
on the compliance of initiatives
and programs aimed at preventing

744
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or countering violent extremism,
with international freedom of

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00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:07,560
expression standards, in the
annexes to the submission, which

746
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includes further materials
issued by Article Nine. So this

747
00:44:10,650 --> 00:44:15,270
is all in the in the fine print
of your human rights

748
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declaration. The right to
freedom of expression is

749
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protected by article 19 of the
Universal Declaration of Human

750
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Rights which is elaborated upon
and given legal force in article

751
00:44:25,350 --> 00:44:29,340
19 of the International Covenant
on Civil and Political Rights.

752
00:44:29,340 --> 00:44:32,640
That's this document. These
guarantees are replicated in

753
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,600
many other international human
rights instruments as well as in

754
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,510
regional counterparts. Though
the right to freedom of

755
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:45,870
expression is fundamental. It is
not absolute. It is not

756
00:44:45,870 --> 00:44:50,730
absolute. Article 19 ICCPR, for
example, places the onus on

757
00:44:50,730 --> 00:44:55,020
states party to justify any
limitations they place on the

758
00:44:55,020 --> 00:44:59,310
rights are provided by law,
pursue a legitimate aim and are

759
00:44:59,310 --> 00:45:03,390
necessary To the legitimate aim
and proportionate? Well, this is

760
00:45:03,390 --> 00:45:07,860
bull crap, because it boils down
to this activities that aim to

761
00:45:07,860 --> 00:45:11,760
threaten the enjoyment of human
rights and fundamental freedoms

762
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,480
and democracy and threatened
territorial integrity and the

763
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,570
security of states and
destabilized legitimately

764
00:45:18,570 --> 00:45:23,490
constituted governments. So if
you are, have hate speech

765
00:45:23,490 --> 00:45:28,560
against the government, they can
shut you down. And they call

766
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this violent extremism,
extremism, a broader phenomenon

767
00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:38,820
than terrorism. It captures both
an ideology and conduct presumed

768
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:45,210
indicative of a future prospects
propensity to violence. Dude,

769
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,190
they are shutting it down.
They've had they've had this go

770
00:45:50,190 --> 00:45:55,350
on for a long time. It's legal.
And thank God literally thank

771
00:45:55,350 --> 00:45:59,070
God for our Constitution, our
First Amendment, but it's

772
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:00,390
totally under attack with

773
00:46:00,390 --> 00:46:03,420
John C Dvorak: this because
we've been under attack forever.

774
00:46:03,420 --> 00:46:03,570
But

775
00:46:03,570 --> 00:46:06,420
Adam Curry: this is a legal
attack and the violent

776
00:46:06,420 --> 00:46:10,380
extremism. These are the terms
they've been using over and over

777
00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:13,530
again for years. It's hate
speech.

778
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John C Dvorak: So to wrap up
what you've just said here, yes.

779
00:46:18,660 --> 00:46:23,460
The people who signed off on
that West minister, kind of cut

780
00:46:23,460 --> 00:46:27,480
whatever it is a declaration,
the declaration or do fusses

781
00:46:27,930 --> 00:46:32,490
either complicit or we're really
not complicit let's let's assume

782
00:46:32,490 --> 00:46:37,050
that okay. Well, is that they've
basically signed a death

783
00:46:37,050 --> 00:46:42,180
warrant. Yes. In essence, even
though it's going to mean

784
00:46:42,180 --> 00:46:45,300
nothing, and it means nothing
goes just a bunch of guys

785
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:48,180
signatures, but that's beside
the point be the first go all

786
00:46:48,180 --> 00:46:51,540
likely they signed their own
death warrant and they don't

787
00:46:51,540 --> 00:46:52,380
even know it.

788
00:46:53,460 --> 00:46:56,460
Adam Curry: And if you look at
the UK, who was already way on

789
00:46:56,460 --> 00:47:00,720
board with this, Canada, well,
I'm going to use the UK for a

790
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:03,480
moment because you know, there's
big protests, big Palestine, pro

791
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,020
Palestine protests going on, all
organized, of course by the

792
00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:12,000
Labour Party. The Met Police
handed out a leaflet that warned

793
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,350
against language that breaks the
law. Language. I just want to

794
00:47:16,350 --> 00:47:19,800
repeat this Americans can't.
Well, a lot of them can but most

795
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:25,920
Americans can't even fathom the
sentence. There's language that

796
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:26,880
breaks the law.

797
00:47:27,300 --> 00:47:29,880
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's like
thought crimes. The leaflets

798
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,090
Adam Curry: warn protesters not
to use words or images that are

799
00:47:33,090 --> 00:47:39,330
racist, or incite hatred against
any faith that support Hamas or

800
00:47:39,330 --> 00:47:43,590
any other band organization as
it is illegal under UK law to

801
00:47:43,590 --> 00:47:47,520
support such terrorist
organizations. Or here it is,

802
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,300
that celebrate or promote acts
of terrorism, such as the

803
00:47:51,300 --> 00:47:56,040
killing or kidnap of innocent
people. In America, you can do

804
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,280
that. You may be a dick, but you
can do that.

805
00:47:59,850 --> 00:48:02,790
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I would say
that that church shag the God

806
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:07,320
Hates Fags example, and Nazis

807
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,710
Adam Curry: can can walk around
and do their Heil Hitler stuff

808
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:13,170
and walk around with their
little goose stepping. And the

809
00:48:13,170 --> 00:48:17,490
ACLU used to use the abuse to
protect those to defend them.

810
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,440
defend them? I guess not. But
that's part of a true open

811
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,740
society and democracy. It's
closing and quick, but they're

812
00:48:25,740 --> 00:48:29,220
gonna go after every single
platform. Anything that's a

813
00:48:29,220 --> 00:48:33,330
platform, anything that you
believe is the internet is going

814
00:48:33,330 --> 00:48:35,670
to it's going to be under the
it's already really under these

815
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:38,250
rules. They're just gonna
formalize it. And they're doing

816
00:48:38,250 --> 00:48:40,740
it when is it now you got the
money getting everyone sucking

817
00:48:40,740 --> 00:48:44,310
up the money? They're in Turkey
a with the STRATCOM conference?

818
00:48:44,490 --> 00:48:47,040
Yeah, we got all kinds of
newsguard we all kinds of

819
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,130
filters. We got all kinds of
stuff. We can track people down,

820
00:48:50,310 --> 00:48:55,710
but our hobnail boot on the
neck. This is exactly what is

821
00:48:55,710 --> 00:49:01,260
happening. So yes, way to go
Westminster boys. Westminster

822
00:49:01,260 --> 00:49:05,880
declaration boys. Yeah, look
into that. Port on that for a

823
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,350
second, please.

824
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,780
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're too
high. They're actually pretty

825
00:49:09,780 --> 00:49:11,640
glib about I think Mata

826
00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:14,400
Adam Curry: EB if he really
looked at it, because he's, he's

827
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,190
kind of wrapped up and, you
know, the IRS came to his door

828
00:49:17,190 --> 00:49:19,830
and he got for the first time
he's figured out the government

829
00:49:19,830 --> 00:49:23,430
hates him, because they hate
everybody. All citizens. He's

830
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:28,740
all wrapped up in it. Now and
he's he's no, he's still a baby.

831
00:49:29,130 --> 00:49:33,870
He's still innocent. Oh, come
on. Let us let us report on

832
00:49:33,870 --> 00:49:40,200
social media. No, no, you've got
that wrong, Matt. And please get

833
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:46,440
off of substack back to blogs.
That's it back to blogs. We got

834
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,840
to go back to using the network
not the platforms.

835
00:49:50,010 --> 00:49:53,910
John C Dvorak: Will. Will I
don't know how that relates to

836
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:56,790
the right wingers that took over
Europe or taking over Europe.

837
00:49:57,150 --> 00:49:58,320
Adam Curry: This shutting them
down.

838
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,340
John C Dvorak: They go Alicia
Gotthard they get I think the

839
00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:06,750
talk is, it's a big deal to talk
a lot, but it's easy to shut

840
00:50:06,750 --> 00:50:09,150
down we'll see is a problem.
It's

841
00:50:09,150 --> 00:50:13,140
Adam Curry: easy to shut down.
People, John, children today

842
00:50:13,140 --> 00:50:16,770
they think the internet is their
iPhone. Hey, I got Google. I got

843
00:50:16,770 --> 00:50:21,450
the internet. They got apps.
Apps bill, come on.

844
00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:23,820
John C Dvorak: People always
thought the web was the Internet

845
00:50:23,820 --> 00:50:25,380
to if you really want to go
back, yes,

846
00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:30,570
Adam Curry: it was it still is
that web ever was the web? No.

847
00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:34,740
But the web is an open
communication hyperlinking

848
00:50:34,740 --> 00:50:38,400
system that runs on the internet
on top of the internet. Yeah.

849
00:50:38,430 --> 00:50:42,960
But it's, it's it's one step
closer to. It's not a platform.

850
00:50:43,410 --> 00:50:47,280
The web is not a platform.
Twitter is a platform. Facebook

851
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,940
is a platform. Google is a
platform, your iPhone App Store

852
00:50:50,940 --> 00:50:53,940
is a platform. These are
platforms that they will

853
00:50:53,940 --> 00:50:59,460
regulate, to the to their own
desire. The web is still the

854
00:50:59,460 --> 00:51:00,600
last place.

855
00:51:02,370 --> 00:51:05,040
John C Dvorak: I would say going
back to your initial thesis,

856
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,480
which you did not bring up in
this presentation, that the

857
00:51:09,810 --> 00:51:13,710
platforms aren't going to go
away. Because they're going to

858
00:51:13,710 --> 00:51:18,660
be they're the ones that are
going to co opt Yes. Government

859
00:51:18,660 --> 00:51:20,580
regulations to benefit them.

860
00:51:20,610 --> 00:51:24,600
Adam Curry: Yes, yes, I agree.
That's what I'm saying. Of

861
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:25,440
course, they're going oh,

862
00:51:25,470 --> 00:51:27,750
John C Dvorak: man, I'll be
around. They don't know. It'll

863
00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:30,930
Adam Curry: be around. But it
won't be. It won't be a place to

864
00:51:30,930 --> 00:51:35,400
get any word out. Because it
will be a clean communications

865
00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:38,670
ecosystem. Yeah, yes.

866
00:51:39,150 --> 00:51:42,690
John C Dvorak: Good luck. It's
hard to do. They don't have

867
00:51:42,690 --> 00:51:43,650
enough. But I

868
00:51:43,650 --> 00:51:45,840
Adam Curry: can tell you I can
tell you right now. We're not

869
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,510
We're not on Spotify. We never
were. We're going to get kicked

870
00:51:48,510 --> 00:51:53,490
off of Apple. It will happen.
This this podcast will not be on

871
00:51:53,490 --> 00:51:58,170
the Apple podcast app. I can
tell you right now. Because of

872
00:51:58,170 --> 00:52:01,320
conspiracy theories and possible
hate speech conspiracy

873
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,380
John C Dvorak: theory, we have
never pushed a conspiracy theory

874
00:52:04,410 --> 00:52:05,160
on this show.

875
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,510
Adam Curry: We didn't land on
the moon.

876
00:52:08,070 --> 00:52:11,940
John C Dvorak: That's you not to
show. That's the net predates

877
00:52:11,940 --> 00:52:12,420
the show.

878
00:52:13,620 --> 00:52:15,180
Adam Curry: I got to step up my
game then.

879
00:52:18,030 --> 00:52:19,440
John C Dvorak: Okay, yeah. So

880
00:52:20,550 --> 00:52:22,950
Adam Curry: yes, please take it
to the right wingers. I'm sure

881
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:24,120
I'm sure we can go back to

882
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,640
John C Dvorak: the right, wing's
and election. So I went to, of

883
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,600
all places in T D. Well, of
course, it's your go to, we'd

884
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,900
love and they had a guy on and I
unfortunately, this is not a

885
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:37,050
great interview, because the
connection to the guy's no good.

886
00:52:37,050 --> 00:52:42,150
I tried running it through
Adobe, one of those situations

887
00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:44,520
where there's certain things
Adobe can't do and it just makes

888
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,300
it worse. And this is one of
those things where that

889
00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:51,090
happened. Oh, goodness. It turns
out I was thinking about this.

890
00:52:51,090 --> 00:52:54,990
The Adobe product is really only
good for echoey voices in a big

891
00:52:54,990 --> 00:52:58,170
room, you know, which is
typical. A lot of podcasts. I

892
00:52:58,170 --> 00:53:02,220
agree. They're using a camera
then you're using the mic on the

893
00:53:02,220 --> 00:53:04,470
camera that do the

894
00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:07,110
Adam Curry: audio clears that up
really? Well. It doesn't do very

895
00:53:07,110 --> 00:53:10,770
well. That's all it does. That's
Yes, I agree. You can now you

896
00:53:10,770 --> 00:53:15,150
can get a pay for an enhanced
version where you can try it

897
00:53:15,150 --> 00:53:20,070
better. It's not I kind of give
you a tip. There Yep, yeah, yes.

898
00:53:20,370 --> 00:53:26,340
There's another website called
vocal remover. I think let me

899
00:53:26,340 --> 00:53:28,770
just see what it is. What's the
name of it? I'm gonna second

900
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:35,730
vocal remover.org And with this
you can split up between music

901
00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:41,700
is really for songs music and
karaoke. Yeah, but it works very

902
00:53:41,700 --> 00:53:45,930
well by removing background
noise which it will detect as

903
00:53:45,930 --> 00:53:51,180
music and I've used that on a
couple in fact the that clip

904
00:53:51,180 --> 00:53:54,810
from Turkey a I used that on and
it really cleaned it up without

905
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,870
without messing with the vocal
tract like making an all singing

906
00:53:57,870 --> 00:54:02,010
and Skippy. Yeah, it's a good
and it's open source. It's a

907
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,470
value for value. Just tip the
guy literal value

908
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:07,680
John C Dvorak: for value is
value. That's it.

909
00:54:07,830 --> 00:54:09,510
Adam Curry: That's correct value
for value.

910
00:54:10,050 --> 00:54:11,520
John C Dvorak: All right, let's
go to right wingers in

911
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:12,720
elections, one in

912
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:14,580
Unknown: addition to New
Zealand, right leaning

913
00:54:14,580 --> 00:54:18,030
politicians have scored recent
victories in the Netherlands and

914
00:54:18,030 --> 00:54:22,170
Argentina. Is this a worldwide
trend? We spoke with Daniel la

915
00:54:22,170 --> 00:54:26,490
Ke, Chief Economist at trusses
to find out more. Daniela Kaye,

916
00:54:26,490 --> 00:54:28,470
thank you so much for joining
us. Great to have you back on

917
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:31,620
the show. Hey, you're actually
currently in the Netherlands as

918
00:54:31,620 --> 00:54:35,130
who you're joining us from and
that's after an outsider won the

919
00:54:35,130 --> 00:54:37,980
election there. This follows a
similar one that we just saw in

920
00:54:37,980 --> 00:54:42,330
Argentina as well. How much did
the current economic factors in

921
00:54:42,330 --> 00:54:45,210
those currencies play into these
election wins

922
00:54:45,300 --> 00:54:49,710
quite a bit. Actually. If you
think of what has made such a

923
00:54:49,710 --> 00:54:54,150
drastic change in the political
landscape and the Netherlands,

924
00:54:54,450 --> 00:54:59,490
it is because of elevated
inflation, continuous

925
00:54:59,490 --> 00:55:03,390
intervention. again from the
government affecting the primary

926
00:55:03,390 --> 00:55:09,210
sector, agriculture, etc. So
basically a drastic reaction

927
00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:14,430
against the negative
inflationary and economic

928
00:55:14,430 --> 00:55:21,000
situation, but also the views on
immigration, and the I'm on

929
00:55:21,030 --> 00:55:24,270
government intervention on
environmental issues. In the

930
00:55:24,270 --> 00:55:28,620
case of Argentina, it's the
desperate situation of the

931
00:55:28,650 --> 00:55:34,680
economy in Argentina. It's got
140%, inflation, 40% of poverty.

932
00:55:34,830 --> 00:55:38,880
And on top of that, in a country
that produces oil and has an

933
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:44,670
incredible farming industry,
there's a scarcity of gasoline

934
00:55:44,670 --> 00:55:46,110
and scarcity of wheat. Yeah,

935
00:55:46,110 --> 00:55:48,420
Adam Curry: I'm gonna call bull
crap on this guy, because it was

936
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:52,710
not because of inflation. The
number one reason was asylum

937
00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:56,790
seekers has been going on for 20
years. And the fact that they

938
00:55:56,790 --> 00:55:59,370
don't Argentina, no, in the
Netherlands, Argentina,

939
00:55:59,850 --> 00:56:03,210
John C Dvorak: Argentina. Oh,
well, he talks about the

940
00:56:03,210 --> 00:56:05,070
Netherlands a little more
specifically.

941
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,820
Adam Curry: I know but he said,
Oh, no, it was it was inflation

942
00:56:08,820 --> 00:56:11,520
cost of living intervention from
the government. And then he

943
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,630
says, oh, yeah, and some
immigration, no, immigration was

944
00:56:15,660 --> 00:56:20,880
top of the list. Okay. Was the
two are incomparable is what I'm

945
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:21,270
saying?

946
00:56:21,690 --> 00:56:25,080
John C Dvorak: Okay, it
comparable. So incomparable, I

947
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,860
think is interesting that he
mentioned, you can't get meat in

948
00:56:28,890 --> 00:56:34,410
of all places. Origin, which is,
it's a meat eating country as

949
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,020
Adam Curry: we go to the origins
of, they should just go to the

950
00:56:37,140 --> 00:56:40,260
Argentinian restaurant there.
That's where they're

951
00:56:40,260 --> 00:56:45,840
John C Dvorak: all meat, meat,
eating more meat. But there's a

952
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,330
cut. There's a factor that comes
out in here. That's, that's new

953
00:56:48,330 --> 00:56:50,850
to me. And some one of our
producers wrote me a note

954
00:56:51,090 --> 00:56:53,670
telling me about it. But I told
them, we have a clip that's

955
00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:56,220
going to discuss it. But we're
just, there's two parts that

956
00:56:56,220 --> 00:56:58,170
have to first part is about
Holland, I

957
00:56:58,170 --> 00:57:00,150
Unknown: want to get to
Argentina. But sticking with

958
00:57:00,150 --> 00:57:04,620
another lens. First, Wilder's is
seeking a Dutch Brexit in the

959
00:57:04,620 --> 00:57:07,440
Netherlands, noting the climate
policies that are really hurting

960
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,640
the farmers in particular, but
what can one man do? What do we

961
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,260
expect to see here? Well,

962
00:57:13,260 --> 00:57:17,490
I think what we can expect at
least is a significant reversal

963
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:22,590
of the misguided, so called by
omental policy, because they're

964
00:57:22,590 --> 00:57:25,980
not environmental
interventionist policy, they

965
00:57:25,980 --> 00:57:30,510
haven't really improved. In
fact, they have worsened the

966
00:57:30,510 --> 00:57:34,560
situation for the people in the
Netherlands. So I think, quite a

967
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,970
big reversal in that front, and
quite a strong reversal as well,

968
00:57:39,180 --> 00:57:45,180
in both the economic policies
inside the Netherlands, but also

969
00:57:45,180 --> 00:57:50,430
regarding the European Union,
because the Netherlands is

970
00:57:50,460 --> 00:57:55,200
suffering, elevated inflation
because of the monetary policy

971
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,340
of the European Central Bank,
and also a dire economic

972
00:58:00,030 --> 00:58:03,570
environment when it should not
be in such an in such a

973
00:58:03,570 --> 00:58:09,300
situation due to the well, many
of the policies that have been

974
00:58:09,420 --> 00:58:13,230
imported from the European
Union. So all those things can

975
00:58:13,230 --> 00:58:18,060
be tweaked and at least improved
upon. Again,

976
00:58:18,060 --> 00:58:20,130
Adam Curry: I'm just surprised
that he doesn't really mention

977
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:21,300
immigration. Yeah, he's

978
00:58:21,690 --> 00:58:23,190
John C Dvorak: went out of his
way not to he's and

979
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:26,040
Adam Curry: he's there. He's
there. That's the thing. He's

980
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:26,610
there.

981
00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:30,390
John C Dvorak: Well, let's go on
to the we'll just take that for

982
00:58:30,390 --> 00:58:33,540
what it is. But let's listen to
what's going on in Argentina.

983
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,330
Unknown: Speaking of inflation,
you did mention now turning to

984
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:41,550
Argentina, the 140% inflation
over there. Now, heavier mele is

985
00:58:41,550 --> 00:58:44,310
saying he's going to shut down
the central bank calling that

986
00:58:44,310 --> 00:58:48,210
non negotiable. How much does
the central bank fit into the

987
00:58:48,210 --> 00:58:49,530
inflation we're seeing?

988
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,460
Well, certainly the central bank
is one side of the coin. And a

989
00:58:53,460 --> 00:58:58,890
very important one, obviously
printing. pestles in a in a in a

990
00:58:58,890 --> 00:59:02,760
way that is completely
incredible. But that's one side

991
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,000
of the coin. The other side of
the coin is fiscal policy, a

992
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,870
country that has more
protectionist measures than many

993
00:59:09,900 --> 00:59:15,030
of the communist regimes that we
know like Cuba or North Korea.

994
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:19,590
So it needs to open the economy.
It needs to cut spending, and it

995
00:59:19,590 --> 00:59:24,600
certainly needs to stop printing
and stop this inflationary

996
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:24,990
nightmare. I

997
00:59:25,170 --> 00:59:28,590
mean, they is an economist and
now he says he does have a plan

998
00:59:28,590 --> 00:59:31,980
to fight inflation and that's
dollarization. us wanting to

999
00:59:31,980 --> 00:59:35,730
change the pesos to the US
dollar. How likely is that to

1000
00:59:35,730 --> 00:59:37,200
succeed? Well,

1001
00:59:37,260 --> 00:59:40,590
it's inevitable because one of
the problems in Argentina is

1002
00:59:40,590 --> 00:59:45,390
that many of the politicians did
not want to recognize the big

1003
00:59:45,390 --> 00:59:49,920
elephant in the room, which is
that the pestle is a completely

1004
00:59:50,070 --> 00:59:54,960
invalid currency that has
failed. Argentina has more than

1005
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,220
15 different exchange rates of
the pestle all of them

1006
00:59:59,220 --> 01:00:01,920
completely free. also
implemented by the government.

1007
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:08,010
And the pestle is not used by
citizens in Argentina whenever

1008
01:00:08,010 --> 01:00:11,820
they can. So actually
dollarization was already

1009
01:00:11,850 --> 01:00:15,930
evident within the Argentine
economy because no Argentine

1010
01:00:15,930 --> 01:00:21,030
citizen, I mean, at least no
sane artefact citizen, David

1011
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:27,000
investors. And certainly all of
the relevant transactions and

1012
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:32,550
purchases that a Argentine
citizens implement are already

1013
01:00:32,550 --> 01:00:32,940
dollar.

1014
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,510
John C Dvorak: I find it
interesting that they're gonna

1015
01:00:36,510 --> 01:00:39,810
switch to the US Dollar as their
currency. Well,

1016
01:00:39,810 --> 01:00:41,610
Adam Curry: we talked about this
on the last show.

1017
01:00:42,030 --> 01:00:43,770
John C Dvorak: But we talked
about it all the time, because

1018
01:00:43,770 --> 01:00:46,320
people didn't know it's like,
it's the reserve currency for

1019
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,830
the world. But here, but here's
the thing I want to do it

1020
01:00:49,830 --> 01:00:52,560
officially is what I think is
it? I don't know. Anyone else

1021
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:53,940
has done it officially.

1022
01:00:54,390 --> 01:00:59,820
Adam Curry: Well, it's not
entirely clear because it says

1023
01:00:59,820 --> 01:01:05,820
dollarization. So I mean, to
shut down the central bank to

1024
01:01:05,850 --> 01:01:10,200
then get the Federal Reserve
central bank. What a difference.

1025
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,510
John C Dvorak: Well, won't be
140% inflation. No,

1026
01:01:15,510 --> 01:01:19,470
Adam Curry: but it'll okay. You
get my point. I mean,

1027
01:01:19,470 --> 01:01:23,040
structurally, it's the base,
same basic idea. But that, I

1028
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,710
mean, there's, there's a lot
that has to happen before that

1029
01:01:25,710 --> 01:01:28,260
can take place, pegging the
dollar to the peso will be

1030
01:01:28,260 --> 01:01:29,040
possible.

1031
01:01:29,430 --> 01:01:32,220
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
different than I know.

1032
01:01:32,610 --> 01:01:34,680
Adam Curry: I know. It's
different. But we'll we'll get

1033
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,820
in Brazil will have let's see
what what he can do. I mean, he

1034
01:01:38,820 --> 01:01:42,060
doesn't have majority in
parliament. He's just the Prime

1035
01:01:42,060 --> 01:01:42,660
Minister.

1036
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,410
John C Dvorak: I mean, there's
the we'll see what he does.

1037
01:01:46,410 --> 01:01:49,050
President I sorry, I think is
fascinating that that's what he

1038
01:01:49,050 --> 01:01:53,220
wants to do. I mean, they have
pegging the to the dollar is not

1039
01:01:53,220 --> 01:01:56,430
new. I mean, I think they may
have been on Argentina years

1040
01:01:56,430 --> 01:01:59,460
back, but I know it's been done
in Brazil. But even when they

1041
01:01:59,460 --> 01:02:05,250
did it, when they went from the
cruzeiro to the rial, which the

1042
01:02:05,250 --> 01:02:09,510
rial, meaning real was pegged
one to one to the dollar. But

1043
01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:12,300
now it's like two and a half to
one. I mean, it just doesn't

1044
01:02:12,300 --> 01:02:15,900
hold up. Which would be
different than the dollar, which

1045
01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:17,400
would hold up. It's

1046
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,420
Adam Curry: interesting that
Saudi Arabia and China just

1047
01:02:21,420 --> 01:02:27,030
announced a $7 billion local
currency swap line, which is a

1048
01:02:27,030 --> 01:02:32,520
good way to peg your, your money
to the one and get it away from

1049
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,810
the dollar. It's worth like a
start in a sequence of things,

1050
01:02:38,220 --> 01:02:40,560
either. Yeah, go ahead. The

1051
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,720
John C Dvorak: problem with the
one in my opinion is that it's

1052
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,610
rigged. It's far more than $1

1053
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,370
Adam Curry: of course, but hey,
but they just don't want to be

1054
01:02:47,370 --> 01:02:50,430
beholden to us anymore. We got
it. We got a new guide, new

1055
01:02:50,430 --> 01:02:56,010
boss, same as the old boss. It's
just that tinier? No, no, they

1056
01:02:56,010 --> 01:03:02,610
don't go and kill as many people
just their own. Just sticking

1057
01:03:02,610 --> 01:03:09,360
with Europe, not reported. Okay.
So what has been reported is we

1058
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:14,010
have lots of immigration clashes
Dublin Ireland, which

1059
01:03:14,010 --> 01:03:18,360
immediately was called Oh, the
far right wing nut jobs they

1060
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,870
hate. They it was a rumor
started by them and no, it was

1061
01:03:21,870 --> 01:03:27,240
not true. But yes, there was
indeed, an immigrant who stabbed

1062
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:33,030
several people including a
children and Dublin it was

1063
01:03:33,030 --> 01:03:38,460
called the it was called the
Irish welcome. As the as the

1064
01:03:38,460 --> 01:03:43,620
guardian writes, me there's no
more No more Irish welcome. The

1065
01:03:43,620 --> 01:03:47,430
Irish are sick of it. The Dutch
are sick of it. Didn't hear

1066
01:03:47,430 --> 01:03:54,360
about even Conor McGregor MMA
fighter says, this is a problem,

1067
01:03:54,660 --> 01:03:57,780
because there's just a revolving
door on immigration with a gravy

1068
01:03:57,780 --> 01:04:01,980
train upon arrival. People don't
like it. In France didn't even

1069
01:04:01,980 --> 01:04:07,230
hear about this. The French
villages winter ball knife

1070
01:04:07,230 --> 01:04:13,050
attack killing a 16 year old boy
injuring 17 people. And this

1071
01:04:13,050 --> 01:04:16,860
immigrant told guests were here
to stab white people before he

1072
01:04:16,860 --> 01:04:21,960
started to stab white people. So
it this is not stuff that people

1073
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:26,430
like now here's the kicker.
European lawmakers approved

1074
01:04:26,430 --> 01:04:31,380
plans on Wednesday to remove the
national veto for EU member

1075
01:04:31,380 --> 01:04:37,620
states. A total of 291 members
of European Parliament supported

1076
01:04:37,620 --> 01:04:41,640
that proposal put forward by the
for Hallstatt group member gi

1077
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,810
for hotstart. The guy the guy
who was all against the you know

1078
01:04:45,810 --> 01:04:49,440
the Belgian guy who was all
against Brexit and was making a

1079
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:54,330
big problem, the arch
Federalist. So the vote was

1080
01:04:54,330 --> 01:04:59,160
passed by a majority of just 17.
So now, a European country like

1081
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,280
the Netherlands can no longer
have a veto on laws they don't

1082
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:10,020
like didn't hear about that
anywhere. Goodbye sovereignty

1083
01:05:10,020 --> 01:05:10,200
that

1084
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,690
John C Dvorak: would make what
would make the European Union so

1085
01:05:12,690 --> 01:05:16,200
appealing if you have no power
whatsoever.

1086
01:05:17,279 --> 01:05:22,289
Adam Curry: It would that hence
next it you know, I don't think

1087
01:05:22,289 --> 01:05:26,969
Fayetteville is just gonna get a
parliament together. I have the

1088
01:05:26,969 --> 01:05:31,769
VVD, which was the current
majority or the was the majority

1089
01:05:31,769 --> 01:05:36,539
party before the election in
coalition. So they got to kind

1090
01:05:36,539 --> 01:05:41,489
of a center, right ish, I guess.
Government very, very slight

1091
01:05:41,489 --> 01:05:47,669
right ish. They said, well, we
don't want to be in a coalition

1092
01:05:47,669 --> 01:05:51,569
with the PVV, which everyone was
kind of counting on to, but we

1093
01:05:51,569 --> 01:05:55,589
will, whatever they want, we'll
just agree with them. That it's

1094
01:05:55,589 --> 01:05:59,549
gonna be very hard for him to
form this thing. Now he can get

1095
01:06:00,899 --> 01:06:03,569
there's a couple of weird new
parties, which got, he can get

1096
01:06:03,569 --> 01:06:07,319
the farmer party in there, but
he still needs 76. And he's a

1097
01:06:07,319 --> 01:06:10,049
37. And it's not going to be
easy. It just may not happen.

1098
01:06:10,919 --> 01:06:13,679
Which will, which will mortified
people in the Netherlands is

1099
01:06:13,679 --> 01:06:18,089
very interesting to watch. It's
very, because I think that where

1100
01:06:18,089 --> 01:06:20,669
the Netherlands goes so the rest
of Europe goes and you're right.

1101
01:06:21,359 --> 01:06:24,329
If you don't have a veto, if you
can't stop something completely

1102
01:06:24,329 --> 01:06:28,469
ludicrous. Why would you want to
be in it? Now? You've already

1103
01:06:28,469 --> 01:06:33,659
got Fifi Lagarde running your
bank, how soon assumed so much

1104
01:06:33,659 --> 01:06:38,339
nuttiness. Meanwhile, here in
America, this was very

1105
01:06:38,339 --> 01:06:44,009
interesting. CBS Sunday did a
story between two CBS journal or

1106
01:06:44,009 --> 01:06:47,549
two journalists, where the
journalists were the story

1107
01:06:48,330 --> 01:06:50,850
John C Dvorak: and nothing like
journalists interviewing

1108
01:06:50,850 --> 01:06:51,600
journalists,

1109
01:06:51,630 --> 01:06:54,990
Adam Curry: and they didn't have
a single outside person in this

1110
01:06:55,020 --> 01:06:58,980
six hour, six hours. It could
have been six in the six minute

1111
01:06:58,980 --> 01:07:04,320
piece. Tim Alberta has written a
Tim Alberta I think he's mainly

1112
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:09,540
an Atlantic writer. His dad was
a preacher or pastor at a

1113
01:07:09,540 --> 01:07:13,440
church. He grew up in the
church. And well wouldn't you

1114
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,100
know it? The church is being
hijacked by Trump. The church is

1115
01:07:17,100 --> 01:07:21,270
political. It's no good. And we
have to have, we have to have a

1116
01:07:21,270 --> 01:07:23,820
book out which now these two
journalists, what's the other

1117
01:07:23,820 --> 01:07:29,310
guy's name? The CBS guy is
Robert Kosta. And he interviewed

1118
01:07:29,340 --> 01:07:35,640
Tim Alberta, about the whiten
white evangelicals.

1119
01:07:35,670 --> 01:07:38,520
Unknown: Alberta's reckoning
with faith and politics is the

1120
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,790
basis for his new book, The
kingdom, the power and the

1121
01:07:41,790 --> 01:07:45,810
glory, which documents what he
calls an age of extremism for

1122
01:07:45,810 --> 01:07:47,160
evangelicals. There was

1123
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:52,200
a real crisis in the American
church, specifically, a crisis

1124
01:07:52,530 --> 01:07:53,640
in the white Evangelical

1125
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:57,450
Church. About a quarter of
American adults identify as

1126
01:07:57,450 --> 01:08:00,840
evangelical. And as the
Republican presidential race

1127
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:05,190
heats up. nearly 70% of white
evangelicals are supportive of

1128
01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:09,450
Trump. Alberta says that
reflects a shift away from norms

1129
01:08:09,690 --> 01:08:12,240
in the GOP and in the church,

1130
01:08:12,270 --> 01:08:15,420
we should think about the
American church almost in

1131
01:08:15,420 --> 01:08:20,250
parallel to American politics,
when it gains enough influence.

1132
01:08:20,970 --> 01:08:24,600
When it gains enough power. The
Fringe can overtake the

1133
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:29,280
mainstream. And that's what
we've seen happen in the church.

1134
01:08:29,490 --> 01:08:32,940
The convulsions in today's
churches come after decades of

1135
01:08:32,940 --> 01:08:35,220
Evangelicals gaining influence.
Hey,

1136
01:08:35,220 --> 01:08:36,060
you love God?

1137
01:08:36,630 --> 01:08:40,740
Do you love him with all your
heart? With all your soul from

1138
01:08:40,740 --> 01:08:44,790
Billy Graham stadium crusades,
we do the stadium rallies of

1139
01:08:44,790 --> 01:08:45,630
Donald Trump.

1140
01:08:45,810 --> 01:08:48,930
But you know, we have our
Christian conservatives.

1141
01:08:50,370 --> 01:08:51,780
There in the room, let's go

1142
01:08:52,229 --> 01:08:56,099
drum. In recent years
evangelicals have had debates

1143
01:08:56,099 --> 01:09:00,359
over the response to COVID and
to Trump all while many key

1144
01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:03,269
Republicans count themselves as
one of them.

1145
01:09:03,750 --> 01:09:05,910
Adam Curry: What I find most
interesting, there's one more

1146
01:09:05,910 --> 01:09:10,080
clip here. What I find most
interesting is the Democrat

1147
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:14,400
Party has actually been doing
this for decades. And that was a

1148
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,460
man I learned all this from Moe
but it's it's right out there.

1149
01:09:18,660 --> 01:09:21,840
Who is one of the big promoters
of the Democratic Party events

1150
01:09:21,900 --> 01:09:27,270
amongst black America. Al
Sharpton name another William

1151
01:09:27,270 --> 01:09:34,050
Jesse, Jesse Jackson, what are
they reverends this was all this

1152
01:09:34,050 --> 01:09:38,160
is all the Democrat Party has
always said yeah,

1153
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:39,870
John C Dvorak: they're no they
don't like the idea this is

1154
01:09:39,870 --> 01:09:43,410
happening to them. Exactly
against them. What's interesting

1155
01:09:43,410 --> 01:09:48,060
is I liked it, the tricky use of
association. So you have Billy

1156
01:09:48,060 --> 01:09:51,990
Graham in front of a huge
audience from 60 or something.

1157
01:09:51,990 --> 01:09:55,800
It doesn't matter when but but
there are these guys and they

1158
01:09:55,800 --> 01:10:00,720
get in front of it. Well, I'd
say the preachers in on TV that

1159
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,800
are in front there in a
stadiums. Those guys, the mega

1160
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,470
church guys, they got a big
giant audience and then then

1161
01:10:07,470 --> 01:10:11,670
they switched to Trump in front
of a big giant audience. And so

1162
01:10:11,670 --> 01:10:14,730
you make the association,
there's something going on. You

1163
01:10:14,730 --> 01:10:17,610
know, you could have done the
same thing by having Taylor

1164
01:10:17,610 --> 01:10:22,740
Swift in front of a big giant
audience, and then putting Trump

1165
01:10:22,740 --> 01:10:25,530
in there and claiming that he's
a rock and roller. I mean, this

1166
01:10:25,530 --> 01:10:27,960
is bull crap. Here we go.

1167
01:10:28,140 --> 01:10:31,530
Unknown: What do you say to
evangelical leaders? Who might

1168
01:10:31,530 --> 01:10:35,970
hear your argument and say, you
missed the point? Trump wins for

1169
01:10:35,970 --> 01:10:39,990
evangelical Christians. He wins
for conservative wins and what

1170
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:45,000
Supreme Court seats, a seat at
the table at the White House.

1171
01:10:45,780 --> 01:10:48,510
Show me where in Scripture any
of that matters.

1172
01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:53,730
But it does matter to many of
those standing with Trump, as he

1173
01:10:53,730 --> 01:10:55,650
once again seeks the White
House.

1174
01:10:55,860 --> 01:10:58,080
And you had millions of
evangelical Christians who voted

1175
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:03,030
for Donald Trump and just sort
of gleefully embraced his See,

1176
01:11:03,030 --> 01:11:03,240
this

1177
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,670
Adam Curry: is where I would
have expected I would have

1178
01:11:05,670 --> 01:11:08,910
expected here to have a whole
bunch of Christians going, Yeah,

1179
01:11:08,910 --> 01:11:11,340
God told me to vote for Trump,
but they don't have any of that

1180
01:11:11,340 --> 01:11:12,300
they just connect is

1181
01:11:12,300 --> 01:11:14,370
John C Dvorak: because it
doesn't exist. But why don't we

1182
01:11:14,370 --> 01:11:19,110
go to go back and he makes it.
When one point is made. He says

1183
01:11:19,110 --> 01:11:23,850
show me a scripture that
matters. Well, his whole thesis

1184
01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:27,540
show me in scripture where any
of what he says matters.

1185
01:11:27,570 --> 01:11:31,800
Adam Curry: Exactly. Exactly.
This is a this is an interesting

1186
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:32,940
hit pieces matter

1187
01:11:32,940 --> 01:11:35,970
Unknown: to many of those
standing with Trump, as he once

1188
01:11:35,970 --> 01:11:37,620
again seats the White House.

1189
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,440
You had millions of evangelical
Christians who voted for Donald

1190
01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:45,900
Trump and just sort of gleefully
embraced his gleefully,

1191
01:11:45,930 --> 01:11:50,310
John C Dvorak: gleefully
embrace, gleefully. This guy is

1192
01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:54,420
a propagandist. This is the only
people that watch this besides

1193
01:11:54,420 --> 01:11:59,400
us, our left wingers and middle
of the road, nobody cares.

1194
01:12:00,540 --> 01:12:03,540
Whoever's bored enough to watch
60 minutes in his current

1195
01:12:04,170 --> 01:12:08,760
iteration, which is not a good
show. I might add. It's very

1196
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,500
dull. And

1197
01:12:10,530 --> 01:12:14,970
Adam Curry: it's CBS Sunday not
60 minutes CBS Sunday. Oh, even

1198
01:12:14,970 --> 01:12:16,980
worse, Jane Polly Jane

1199
01:12:16,980 --> 01:12:20,640
John C Dvorak: Polly Polly show
nobody watches Jane Polly show

1200
01:12:20,820 --> 01:12:24,510
is well structured as a pro.
She's like really good, but

1201
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,680
Adam Curry: and then they got
this Atlantic writer who grew up

1202
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:33,660
in the church and then I think
he basically left to become a

1203
01:12:33,660 --> 01:12:37,380
political reporter. I'm not sure
if he's a Christian anymore or

1204
01:12:37,380 --> 01:12:38,760
John C Dvorak: not. Oh, he's
probably not he's probably an

1205
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:39,600
atheist when he it

1206
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,300
Adam Curry: was not much left
terrible

1207
01:12:42,330 --> 01:12:45,540
Unknown: rhetoric and his
unpriced like conduct Why is

1208
01:12:45,570 --> 01:12:47,970
Adam Curry: unpriced like condos
to be Christ?

1209
01:12:50,790 --> 01:12:53,520
John C Dvorak: Hey, hey,
Christian elect in Christ.

1210
01:12:53,550 --> 01:12:57,090
Adam Curry: The whole point is
we're all sinners, you douche.

1211
01:12:57,390 --> 01:13:01,380
Unknown: Terrible rhetoric and
his unpriced like conduct Why

1212
01:13:01,380 --> 01:13:06,180
did they gleefully brace it to
use your term? Power, power

1213
01:13:06,210 --> 01:13:06,930
Adam Curry: power?

1214
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:11,280
Unknown: Sure. Trump campaigned
for President in 2016 promising

1215
01:13:11,340 --> 01:13:15,030
that if he was elected
Christians would have power and

1216
01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:16,290
he gave it to them where

1217
01:13:16,410 --> 01:13:18,840
Adam Curry: I never saw I never
I never heard that you heard

1218
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,390
John C Dvorak: this I heard that
all I remembered they're gonna

1219
01:13:21,390 --> 01:13:24,270
build the wall and Mexico is
gonna pay for it. How come they

1220
01:13:24,270 --> 01:13:27,930
don't harp on that? That's
that's a good one in Mexico's

1221
01:13:27,930 --> 01:13:31,020
never pay for any of the wall.
So I mean, once you go after my

1222
01:13:31,020 --> 01:13:32,580
stuff, he actually said

1223
01:13:32,610 --> 01:13:36,570
Unknown: he gave it to them in
ways that arguably, no American

1224
01:13:36,570 --> 01:13:40,230
president has in modern history.
Holy crapola.

1225
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,620
Adam Curry: He gave stuff that
that no, it's amazing, but what

1226
01:13:43,620 --> 01:13:44,220
is it?

1227
01:13:44,430 --> 01:13:48,300
Unknown: And when you have
power, you can very quickly lose

1228
01:13:48,300 --> 01:13:54,450
sight of your principles, your
values, even your beliefs as

1229
01:13:54,450 --> 01:13:59,700
your faith you know, honestly,
it's never been better.

1230
01:14:00,810 --> 01:14:04,920
Alberta's faith. Reporting is
also Satan. Satan, and he says

1231
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:06,780
that is his own calling.

1232
01:14:07,230 --> 01:14:10,740
You and I were reporters. That's
right. We're not supposed to be

1233
01:14:10,740 --> 01:14:14,490
the story. I never wanted to be
the story. Once you see this,

1234
01:14:14,490 --> 01:14:15,450
you can't look away.

1235
01:14:16,140 --> 01:14:19,350
Adam Curry: Dude, this is so
bold brother. This is such bull

1236
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:22,830
crap. There's I was in church
this morning. I get up very

1237
01:14:22,830 --> 01:14:26,460
early to do that and still do my
show prep. There's there's as

1238
01:14:26,460 --> 01:14:31,920
many people who are looking at
Bobby The up as Donald Trump and

1239
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:37,590
most people like is that I mean,
really, that's our choices. This

1240
01:14:37,590 --> 01:14:41,940
is just it's not true. But
they're freaked out. These

1241
01:14:41,940 --> 01:14:44,670
people are freaked out a by God.
They're really afraid of God and

1242
01:14:44,670 --> 01:14:49,260
Mike Johnson, I think is the
catalyst here. Oh, oh, he's

1243
01:14:49,260 --> 01:14:52,170
literally his imaginary daddy in
the sky.

1244
01:14:55,140 --> 01:14:56,460
John C Dvorak: Who's Mike
Johnson,

1245
01:14:56,670 --> 01:14:57,930
Adam Curry: the Speaker of the
House.

1246
01:14:59,070 --> 01:15:02,430
John C Dvorak: Oh, that guy Yes.
Oh yeah he's about at the funny

1247
01:15:02,430 --> 01:15:05,910
thing is as religious as he is,
he shows no signs of it. I don't

1248
01:15:05,910 --> 01:15:08,550
know what they're complaining
about. Because

1249
01:15:08,550 --> 01:15:13,500
Adam Curry: he says stuff. Yeah,
he says like, my worldview as

1250
01:15:13,500 --> 01:15:14,010
the Bible.

1251
01:15:16,020 --> 01:15:18,450
John C Dvorak: He wants to take
basically the worldview of the

1252
01:15:18,450 --> 01:15:20,520
United States of America, if
you're really looking good, I

1253
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:24,390
had a God, cow, Winthrop,
Jordan, one of the most famous

1254
01:15:24,540 --> 01:15:27,480
history professors in the
country, who says, If you want

1255
01:15:27,480 --> 01:15:30,510
to understand American history,
you better sit down and read the

1256
01:15:30,510 --> 01:15:34,050
entire Bible, and then you'll
get it. And he wasn't a

1257
01:15:34,050 --> 01:15:36,810
religious guy. He was just a
matter of fact, he said that,

1258
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:37,140
well,

1259
01:15:37,140 --> 01:15:39,300
Adam Curry: I'm gonna, I'm gonna
make a prediction what these

1260
01:15:39,300 --> 01:15:41,610
people are doing if they keep
this up the you're gonna see

1261
01:15:41,610 --> 01:15:45,240
revival. You're gonna see you're
gonna see a real revival.

1262
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,900
They're awakening for powers
that have no idea exists because

1263
01:15:48,900 --> 01:15:50,790
they were kind of suppressed.
They'll

1264
01:15:50,790 --> 01:15:54,660
John C Dvorak: hear you
mentioned Kay RFK Jr, the the

1265
01:15:54,660 --> 01:15:59,130
OP. So I have two clips I want
to play which I think the

1266
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,890
opposite ending I think they've
decided that they're going to do

1267
01:16:01,890 --> 01:16:02,610
something else.

1268
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:04,290
Adam Curry: You know, there's
going to be it's going to be a

1269
01:16:04,290 --> 01:16:07,860
lot of people saying, Oh, now
you call the OP over there was

1270
01:16:07,860 --> 01:16:11,040
never an OP blog. It was fine. I

1271
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,190
John C Dvorak: don't care you
say whatever you want. But I'm

1272
01:16:14,190 --> 01:16:16,830
just seeing a lot of self
destructive stuff now showing up

1273
01:16:16,830 --> 01:16:22,170
on his he's links to it. This is
I got to play

1274
01:16:22,170 --> 01:16:24,390
Adam Curry: the AI stuff where
all of a sudden AI is going to

1275
01:16:24,390 --> 01:16:27,960
eat the world. That was that was
a big, a big giveaway for me.

1276
01:16:29,010 --> 01:16:32,280
John C Dvorak: Or if yes, we
played down the last show.

1277
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,190
That's when I trick I had two
other two clips to go with it,

1278
01:16:35,190 --> 01:16:39,300
but we ran out of time. Let's
listen to RF. This one here is

1279
01:16:39,300 --> 01:16:45,150
like a hot an eye roller RFK JR
and the seals. I started hearing

1280
01:16:45,150 --> 01:16:47,760
about some of your pets and
sealed

1281
01:16:47,790 --> 01:16:51,870
Unknown: my mother came from a
family of outdoorsman. And one

1282
01:16:51,870 --> 01:16:55,860
of them put a bunch of little
baby sea lions and ease and sea

1283
01:16:55,860 --> 01:17:00,060
lion. Each of his siblings a big
truck pulled in the driveway and

1284
01:17:00,060 --> 01:17:03,120
Christmas day and a great came
out of it was a little baby sea

1285
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,690
lion and we raised them swimming
Overland. There were fish all

1286
01:17:06,690 --> 01:17:14,550
over the yard like six or seven
but you know he stayed with us

1287
01:17:14,550 --> 01:17:17,610
for a couple of years and he
just swam in a bowl with us he

1288
01:17:17,610 --> 01:17:20,940
jumped off the diving board and
he would run with the dogs the

1289
01:17:20,940 --> 01:17:24,360
dogs would sometimes go into the
nearby town and that was a

1290
01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:29,130
milkman not bring the milk in
the morning and he'd see the CEO

1291
01:17:29,130 --> 01:17:31,770
with a six dogs walking through
the town and

1292
01:17:35,220 --> 01:17:37,440
John C Dvorak: so Okay, so when
he was seven he had a sealed

1293
01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:39,270
pet. That's weird.

1294
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,510
Adam Curry: This is very this is
very interesting before you move

1295
01:17:42,510 --> 01:17:46,380
to your next clip. He had an I'm
actually looking at up right

1296
01:17:46,380 --> 01:17:56,280
now. He had a clip on RFK Jr. on
on X eggs, which I saw just the

1297
01:17:56,280 --> 01:18:00,450
other day here. Here let me see
if there's audio to this one

1298
01:18:00,450 --> 01:18:04,500
once I started doing hocking on
when I was nine years old, he

1299
01:18:04,530 --> 01:18:06,660
did you know he was in hocking

1300
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,240
John C Dvorak: to Faulconer.
Yes,

1301
01:18:09,900 --> 01:18:12,360
Unknown: my uncle President
Kennedy was in the White House

1302
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:16,470
at that time and a lot of people
were talking about Camelot and I

1303
01:18:16,470 --> 01:18:20,820
read a book about Camelot about
the young King Arthur called The

1304
01:18:20,820 --> 01:18:25,830
Once and Future King by th YT.
And th y was a British Faulkner

1305
01:18:25,890 --> 01:18:27,960
Adam Curry: and there's all
these these pictures of him

1306
01:18:28,110 --> 01:18:30,240
holding up his gloved hand and
the Hawk is

1307
01:18:31,260 --> 01:18:34,620
Unknown: landing on him and so
he had a chapter in that book

1308
01:18:34,620 --> 01:18:39,420
about young King Arthur and
learning foul curry and I read

1309
01:18:39,420 --> 01:18:44,460
that it was very very detailed
and and to me absolutely

1310
01:18:44,460 --> 01:18:45,600
riveting. I

1311
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,210
Adam Curry: won't play the whole
thing. But isn't that a rich

1312
01:18:48,210 --> 01:18:49,200
boys thing?

1313
01:18:50,430 --> 01:18:53,520
John C Dvorak: For you don't
think having a pet seal in your

1314
01:18:53,550 --> 01:18:56,940
giant swimming pool at home is
not a rich boys thing. I

1315
01:18:56,970 --> 01:19:01,020
Adam Curry: think it's in line.
I think is right up there. Yes,

1316
01:19:01,020 --> 01:19:01,230
my

1317
01:19:01,230 --> 01:19:08,730
John C Dvorak: pet seal so, so
there's so there's that stuff,

1318
01:19:08,730 --> 01:19:13,440
which is very negative, very
negative. So there we have him

1319
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:17,880
coming off and tell me if you've
heard this. This is this is his

1320
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:22,080
commentary on on the military
manufacturing the VAX

1321
01:19:23,190 --> 01:19:26,790
Unknown: vaccines were developed
not by moderna and Pfizer. They

1322
01:19:26,940 --> 01:19:31,620
were developed by NIH, their own
the patents are on 50% by NIH,

1323
01:19:31,710 --> 01:19:35,160
nor were they manufactured by
Pfizer or by moderna, they were

1324
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,700
manufactured by military
contractors and basically Pfizer

1325
01:19:38,700 --> 01:19:43,500
moderna were paid to put their
stance on those vaccines as if

1326
01:19:43,500 --> 01:19:45,690
they came from the
pharmaceutical industry. But

1327
01:19:45,990 --> 01:19:48,960
that's not what they were doing.
They were coming from, you know,

1328
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:52,110
the this was a hate military
project from the beginning.

1329
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,680
Adam Curry: Well, I can't
disagree with what he's saying.

1330
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:56,670
But

1331
01:19:56,670 --> 01:19:59,550
John C Dvorak: that Pfizer and
Maduro didn't make anything and

1332
01:19:59,550 --> 01:20:02,520
they just put their name on some
military stuff that came out of

1333
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:07,440
a military what military
facilities manufacture vaccines?

1334
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:12,420
Adam Curry: Well, maybe he may
mean develops because we both

1335
01:20:12,420 --> 01:20:13,020
know where they were

1336
01:20:13,410 --> 01:20:15,720
John C Dvorak: said they made
them. He said the military

1337
01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:20,070
manufacturer contractors made
the vaccines and Pfizer just put

1338
01:20:20,070 --> 01:20:24,450
their label on it. What what
facility is this? I would like

1339
01:20:24,450 --> 01:20:26,220
to know. Well,

1340
01:20:26,220 --> 01:20:30,390
Adam Curry: I don't know. But
that for Dietrich is where we

1341
01:20:30,390 --> 01:20:30,660
think

1342
01:20:30,660 --> 01:20:32,730
John C Dvorak: it was developed
a manufacturing place. That's a

1343
01:20:32,850 --> 01:20:34,680
pure research facility. Maybe

1344
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:39,150
Adam Curry: you are muted, okay.
No, maybe I'm okay. You're

1345
01:20:39,150 --> 01:20:41,280
taking him literally at his
word, but he's trying to,

1346
01:20:41,490 --> 01:20:42,150
John C Dvorak: he said,

1347
01:20:42,180 --> 01:20:46,710
Adam Curry: I know. I'm gonna
give him this one. The seal and

1348
01:20:46,710 --> 01:20:49,650
the end the fall cleaning the
Hawking. That's, that's, that's

1349
01:20:49,650 --> 01:20:50,550
a problem for me.

1350
01:20:51,810 --> 01:20:53,790
John C Dvorak: I'll give him
this and I like to use the word

1351
01:20:53,790 --> 01:20:59,610
Hawking instead of Falken. Ray,
because talking implies selling

1352
01:20:59,610 --> 01:21:01,020
something or

1353
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,930
Adam Curry: Hawking something
up. Well, there's

1354
01:21:03,930 --> 01:21:07,080
John C Dvorak: that too. One or
both, or Stephen Hollingshead

1355
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,080
was the guy though that he's
Hawkins in the Hakan new

1356
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,480
software. He's hawk and he's
hot. As hot because there's

1357
01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:15,600
something amiss with this Rive
with the with the OP.

1358
01:21:15,630 --> 01:21:19,260
Adam Curry: And it's it's really
stylized and highly produced and

1359
01:21:19,260 --> 01:21:24,600
lots of slow mo of Falcons meal.
And then one of them actually

1360
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:29,580
grabbing something in the air.
Like a dove like a freedom dove.

1361
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,980
Yeah, well, if the OP is not
over it this is not this is not

1362
01:21:37,980 --> 01:21:41,610
a good look for Bobby. It's not
although the polls are showing

1363
01:21:41,610 --> 01:21:44,040
while he would take 30% away
from Trump.

1364
01:21:46,890 --> 01:21:48,840
John C Dvorak: Well, if the
polls were accurate, that's

1365
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,650
probably what recent would have
killed or if dwarf K popping?

1366
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,560
Yeah, get rid of them to take
the bloods away from Biden.

1367
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,900
They're trying to keep Biden
from getting in.

1368
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,680
Adam Curry: We want him to be
attorney general. For Trump

1369
01:22:01,710 --> 01:22:06,660
Biden. I don't know. Biden, just
know. You know what I mean?

1370
01:22:07,710 --> 01:22:13,710
Anyway, since we're on vaccines,
and COVID. What we previously

1371
01:22:13,710 --> 01:22:19,800
could only get through NTD and
wion from India has finally hit

1372
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:24,060
our shores. It's even in
Chicago, and I have a few clips

1373
01:22:24,060 --> 01:22:25,470
to share. The World

1374
01:22:25,470 --> 01:22:28,830
Unknown: Health Organization
says China has shared data about

1375
01:22:28,830 --> 01:22:32,310
a recent surge in respiratory
illnesses in children and

1376
01:22:32,310 --> 01:22:36,150
there's no sign of any unusual
or novel pathogens,

1377
01:22:36,300 --> 01:22:39,090
Adam Curry: who sought
information after Chinese news

1378
01:22:39,090 --> 01:22:43,170
reports and social media posts
described a surge in sick

1379
01:22:43,170 --> 01:22:46,320
children in recent weeks. Now
the data suggests the spike was

1380
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:50,430
caused by known bacteria and
viruses like pneumonia and RSV,

1381
01:22:50,730 --> 01:22:55,320
who who says the surge is
happening earlier than expected

1382
01:22:55,350 --> 01:23:01,380
surge. Now, this is interesting
for really for one reason, we're

1383
01:23:01,380 --> 01:23:04,560
actually couple but it follows
the format follows the format

1384
01:23:04,590 --> 01:23:09,300
that we saw in November of 2019
and follows the format we're

1385
01:23:09,300 --> 01:23:12,600
seeing some stuff it's a little
different now because it's

1386
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,540
children's children think of the
children as children. This is

1387
01:23:15,540 --> 01:23:17,910
bad is children. Children
children children's

1388
01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:20,700
Unknown: tonight a troubling
headline out of China headline

1389
01:23:20,700 --> 01:23:23,790
hospitals overwhelmed with
children's respiratory

1390
01:23:23,790 --> 01:23:27,390
illnesses. This is RSV cases are
rising in some parts of the

1391
01:23:27,390 --> 01:23:28,980
United States alone a second

1392
01:23:29,550 --> 01:23:34,020
John C Dvorak: aren't all
headlines trolling then they

1393
01:23:34,020 --> 01:23:37,410
shouldn't Shouldn't they be
inaccurate? Is that what she's

1394
01:23:37,410 --> 01:23:41,430
complaining? I'm not sure I
don't not sure I follow you said

1395
01:23:41,430 --> 01:23:42,690
trolling headlines and

1396
01:23:42,690 --> 01:23:45,510
Adam Curry: she said troubling,
troubling troubling.

1397
01:23:46,890 --> 01:23:49,830
John C Dvorak: Like she said
trolling headline a day ABC

1398
01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:53,790
Adam Curry: says trolling I'll
eat my shoe. No, no, no.

1399
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:54,900
troubling. Yeah, I

1400
01:23:54,900 --> 01:23:56,850
John C Dvorak: think it's fine
to mistake and Rob billings

1401
01:23:56,850 --> 01:23:59,550
Unknown: tonight a troubling
headline out of China reports of

1402
01:23:59,550 --> 01:24:01,980
hospitals overwhelmed with
children's suffering from

1403
01:24:01,980 --> 01:24:05,880
respiratory illnesses. This is
RSV cases are rising in some

1404
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:07,020
parts of the United States.

1405
01:24:07,050 --> 01:24:09,630
Adam Curry: Notice that
connection completely irrelevant

1406
01:24:09,630 --> 01:24:13,830
connection. This is walking
pneumonia. But But oh, it's

1407
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:16,380
troubling because we have
something going on in China and

1408
01:24:16,410 --> 01:24:18,690
RSV on the rise in America.
Let's

1409
01:24:18,690 --> 01:24:21,330
Unknown: bring in ABCs Brett
Clinet in the brand for us and

1410
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,390
you're running the World Health
Organization is in contact with

1411
01:24:24,390 --> 01:24:28,800
China tonight on this potential
worrying spike are the outbreak

1412
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:29,670
a worrying

1413
01:24:29,670 --> 01:24:31,740
Adam Curry: spike? Oh, this is
beautiful. Hi,

1414
01:24:31,740 --> 01:24:34,020
Unknown: Lindsay. Yeah, these
reports coming out of China are

1415
01:24:34,020 --> 01:24:37,080
grabbing international
attention. The UN health agency

1416
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,620
is investigating what it calls
clusters of undiagnosed

1417
01:24:40,620 --> 01:24:44,310
pneumonia with some hospitals in
northern China overwhelmed with

1418
01:24:44,310 --> 01:24:47,910
sick children. Tonight the World
Health Organization consulting

1419
01:24:47,910 --> 01:24:48,330
with health

1420
01:24:48,810 --> 01:24:54,540
John C Dvorak: care stop again.
If it's pneumonia, how is it

1421
01:24:54,570 --> 01:24:59,370
undiagnosed? Do you have
anything undiagnosed pneumonia

1422
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:04,770
If it's not, you just diagnosed
it is called pneumonia. How is

1423
01:25:04,770 --> 01:25:06,150
it undiagnosed?

1424
01:25:06,780 --> 01:25:09,840
Adam Curry: Because this is
meant to put fear into you over

1425
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:10,500
children.

1426
01:25:10,650 --> 01:25:13,020
Unknown: Tonight the World
Health Organization consulting

1427
01:25:13,020 --> 01:25:15,540
with health authorities
reporting an increase in

1428
01:25:15,540 --> 01:25:18,660
respiratory illnesses but
crucially, not detecting any

1429
01:25:18,660 --> 01:25:23,070
unusual or novel diseases. The
WHO noticing the uptick in cases

1430
01:25:23,070 --> 01:25:27,840
may not be so unexpected given.
This is China's first flu season

1431
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,600
since COVID. restrictions were
lifted. Similar to what you

1432
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,390
might remember happened in the
US after lockdowns ended, but

1433
01:25:33,390 --> 01:25:36,360
scientists are continuing to
monitor this very closely.

1434
01:25:36,540 --> 01:25:40,410
Meanwhile, in the US RSV cases
are on the rise, especially in

1435
01:25:40,410 --> 01:25:44,040
southern states, saying children
under five are being

1436
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:47,130
hospitalized at the highest
rate, health officials urging

1437
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:50,100
families to be vigilant as they
start gathering indoors for the

1438
01:25:50,100 --> 01:25:51,090
holiday season.

1439
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,570
Adam Curry: So what I'll say
about ABC is they immediately go

1440
01:25:54,570 --> 01:25:58,140
to their sponsors, hey, there's
something going on in China.

1441
01:25:58,230 --> 01:26:01,560
RSV, maybe we can get some more
people interested in that RSV

1442
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,200
vaccine, which costs $1,000,
which they can't sell to

1443
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:13,710
anybody. But if we go to wi O N,
are our go to or go to gal. They

1444
01:26:13,710 --> 01:26:16,560
have a little more detail on
what's happening with China's

1445
01:26:16,590 --> 01:26:19,200
walking pneumonia outbreak. The

1446
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,630
Unknown: beginning of the
outbreak in China, it's too big

1447
01:26:21,630 --> 01:26:25,080
to ignore. They're clocking more
than 10,000 cases a day. Most of

1448
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,240
the patients are children.
They're coming down with a

1449
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:31,020
mysterious pneumonia. They have
infected lungs and fever, but

1450
01:26:31,020 --> 01:26:34,380
the cause of the illness is
still unclear. You don't know

1451
01:26:34,500 --> 01:26:38,730
exactly what this diseases and
China won't say how many cases

1452
01:26:38,730 --> 01:26:42,600
there are or how widespread the
outbreak is. Unofficially, it's

1453
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:46,230
been called a walking pneumonia.
Officially, China is not sure

1454
01:26:46,230 --> 01:26:48,450
what it's dealing with. But
here's what we've been able to

1455
01:26:48,450 --> 01:26:52,020
piece together. Its massive
1000s of patients, mostly

1456
01:26:52,020 --> 01:26:55,710
children. There is anecdotal
evidence from key has hotspots

1457
01:26:55,740 --> 01:26:59,040
like China's capital, Beijing,
the Beijing Children's Hospital

1458
01:26:59,070 --> 01:27:03,780
is overwhelmed. They're getting
7000 patients a day. That's the

1459
01:27:03,780 --> 01:27:07,680
daily average average 7000
patients and other hotspots at

1460
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:11,100
Tianjin. It's a metropolis in
northern China close to Beijing

1461
01:27:11,370 --> 01:27:15,540
last Saturday. Tianjin reported
a big surge over 13,000 cases in

1462
01:27:15,540 --> 01:27:19,230
24 hours. And this is just from
one hospital to Tianjin

1463
01:27:19,230 --> 01:27:22,620
Children's Hospital, the biggest
one in the city, this hospital

1464
01:27:22,620 --> 01:27:25,380
and remember what the pandemic
taught us these numbers are only

1465
01:27:25,380 --> 01:27:27,960
a conservative estimate. They do
not reflect the full scale of

1466
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:32,460
the crisis. If 13 patients end
up in hospital, there are most

1467
01:27:32,460 --> 01:27:36,120
likely many more outside many
more carrying the infection.

1468
01:27:36,270 --> 01:27:36,630
Okay, I

1469
01:27:36,630 --> 01:27:39,630
Adam Curry: have two questions
for you. One, what is walking

1470
01:27:39,630 --> 01:27:40,230
pneumonia?

1471
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,020
John C Dvorak: walking pneumonia
is the kind of you have

1472
01:27:43,020 --> 01:27:45,510
pneumonia, but you can wander
around it's easy to find you may

1473
01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:49,050
be short of breath, which is
good common. It's used in rock

1474
01:27:49,050 --> 01:27:51,990
and roll lyrics, rocking
pneumonia, and the boogie woogie

1475
01:27:51,990 --> 01:27:56,670
blues. If you recall. I think
this is mass hysteria. Yes.

1476
01:27:56,850 --> 01:27:59,940
Adam Curry: And this is perfect
to hype up because that's

1477
01:27:59,940 --> 01:28:03,120
exactly what happened. The
beginning of COVID we saw people

1478
01:28:03,180 --> 01:28:08,370
remember the the anonymous nurse
who came out new in New York and

1479
01:28:08,370 --> 01:28:11,190
she said, I'm seeing people come
in and they're just freaked out.

1480
01:28:11,550 --> 01:28:14,700
They don't have anything then
they don't even have they have a

1481
01:28:14,700 --> 01:28:17,730
sniffle. But they're freaked out
and they're and they're there.

1482
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,940
They got palpitations, they're
fainting. They're so freaked out

1483
01:28:20,940 --> 01:28:24,420
by the media, which has not yet
cranked up yet in America.

1484
01:28:24,810 --> 01:28:31,710
Here's question two. Would you
be so kind as to keep your eye

1485
01:28:31,710 --> 01:28:36,210
on San Francisco where she and
his Chinese delegation just was

1486
01:28:36,300 --> 01:28:42,120
where they're nasty, infected,
seething, oozing, walking

1487
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:43,290
pneumonia bodies.

1488
01:28:43,890 --> 01:28:46,080
John C Dvorak: I think they
dropped the ball on that and

1489
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:47,160
they can still pick it up.

1490
01:28:47,190 --> 01:28:49,260
Adam Curry: They can still pick
it up. But they got to hurry too

1491
01:28:49,260 --> 01:28:51,660
late. They got to hurt. No, I
think they can still pick it up.

1492
01:28:52,050 --> 01:28:55,470
But I don't know. It took a
while for them to remember. We

1493
01:28:55,470 --> 01:28:59,580
had to see videos of tick tock
videos of Chinese fall on their

1494
01:28:59,580 --> 01:29:02,130
face. Now yeah,

1495
01:29:02,130 --> 01:29:04,140
John C Dvorak: having the shakes
have a white powder sprayed all

1496
01:29:04,140 --> 01:29:05,880
over, dragged out of their car.

1497
01:29:05,910 --> 01:29:08,250
Adam Curry: But how about this?
Where's Bill Gates immediately

1498
01:29:08,250 --> 01:29:11,760
saying, All right, everybody,
this is probably nothing. We got

1499
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,580
our health force one on the
case. This is what we talked

1500
01:29:14,580 --> 01:29:20,070
about. We know how to do this
for helicopters landed when to

1501
01:29:20,070 --> 01:29:22,200
sweep the streets of San
Francisco make sure everything's

1502
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:25,710
okay. Isn't this what we learned
from the pandemic? Why are we

1503
01:29:25,710 --> 01:29:26,700
ignoring this?

1504
01:29:26,970 --> 01:29:30,810
John C Dvorak: I playbook is
vague.

1505
01:29:32,820 --> 01:29:34,920
Adam Curry: I just want to make
sure we keep our eye on it

1506
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:35,220
because

1507
01:29:35,220 --> 01:29:36,900
John C Dvorak: we need to keep
an eye out keep an eye on San

1508
01:29:36,900 --> 01:29:40,530
Francisco wait for it because if
it happens, it'll happen within

1509
01:29:40,530 --> 01:29:42,630
the next seven days. It has to
know

1510
01:29:42,630 --> 01:29:45,000
Adam Curry: I agree. It has to
hurry very it has to

1511
01:29:46,890 --> 01:29:48,150
John C Dvorak: monitor the local
news.

1512
01:29:48,690 --> 01:29:49,770
Adam Curry: Yes be monitoring.

1513
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:54,750
John C Dvorak: It really two
steps. Yes, two stages. One, you

1514
01:29:54,750 --> 01:29:57,990
announced what's happening. And
then the second one, some expert

1515
01:29:57,990 --> 01:30:02,430
comes out in May. They may
attend it just could be because

1516
01:30:02,430 --> 01:30:05,760
the Chinese delegation, I mean,
that'll be the second step where

1517
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,520
they blame you, that will be
good. They will the hassle away.

1518
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:09,570
You have to do it and then

1519
01:30:09,570 --> 01:30:13,110
Adam Curry: we got to shut down
all flights from China. Well

1520
01:30:16,379 --> 01:30:19,559
John C Dvorak: maybe, maybe
listen up and Dr. Trump would do

1521
01:30:19,559 --> 01:30:20,069
it. But

1522
01:30:20,100 --> 01:30:24,630
Adam Curry: John, they've been
pushing this RSV, which, yes,

1523
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:30,480
agreed it's it has existed is
dangerous to little babies. But

1524
01:30:30,510 --> 01:30:34,290
it hasn't been a huge thing.
Certainly not for older people.

1525
01:30:34,380 --> 01:30:37,710
But they've been pushing this
vaccine for for what, six months

1526
01:30:37,710 --> 01:30:42,660
now. Maybe even more. Now is
their shot. You can't tell me

1527
01:30:42,660 --> 01:30:46,620
that. That Albert Borla is not
looking at this going. Oh my

1528
01:30:46,620 --> 01:30:51,270
god. This is another shot for
us. We need to make my more

1529
01:30:51,270 --> 01:30:54,930
billion there will be another
pandemic. His stock is in the

1530
01:30:54,930 --> 01:31:01,740
tank. I'd be out there. Yeah,
you would. And you hear them

1531
01:31:01,740 --> 01:31:05,310
already. And you hear them
already connecting? What's

1532
01:31:05,310 --> 01:31:08,430
happening in China. RSV. Oh,
yeah. They'll be careful this

1533
01:31:08,430 --> 01:31:16,440
holiday season. RSV, Boo Boo.
Yeah. And yes, mass hysteria. Of

1534
01:31:16,440 --> 01:31:18,570
course, we also want to cover up
what's going on in the

1535
01:31:18,570 --> 01:31:24,210
Philippines. This is I have a
clip, it's 45 seconds. I'll tell

1536
01:31:24,210 --> 01:31:29,010
you what the guy is saying. The
this the Deputy Speaker of the

1537
01:31:29,010 --> 01:31:31,770
House of Representatives of the
Philippines, Dan Fernandez, good

1538
01:31:31,770 --> 01:31:37,320
old Dan. And he says hey, we
have to start an investigation

1539
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:41,790
into the 260,000 excess deaths.
The

1540
01:31:41,820 --> 01:31:47,760
Unknown: copy of the said
solution this is about a 260,000

1541
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:52,830
excess deaths that we
experienced in this country will

1542
01:31:52,830 --> 01:31:58,710
be showing a drop from the
Philippine statistics, authority

1543
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:03,960
and Doh, maddening porcelain
copies that have been submitted

1544
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:11,820
datas. And we are shocked to
find out that there were 262,000

1545
01:32:11,820 --> 01:32:21,090
deaths on 2021 alone. And after
that 2020 to 67,000 deaths. And

1546
01:32:21,090 --> 01:32:26,190
these are oil and explain that
No.

1547
01:32:26,250 --> 01:32:30,240
Adam Curry: So these are not
COVID deaths, debts death does

1548
01:32:30,270 --> 01:32:34,770
debt Sudden Death debts debts.
unexplained deaths, unexplained

1549
01:32:34,770 --> 01:32:38,970
deaths. Yeah, this is none of
this is good.

1550
01:32:39,690 --> 01:32:42,180
John C Dvorak: If you're going
to no one is going to get into

1551
01:32:42,180 --> 01:32:44,130
it again and let it pass over
how

1552
01:32:44,130 --> 01:32:47,100
Adam Curry: man you just you're
just saying I'm you're just so

1553
01:32:47,100 --> 01:32:50,940
cynical. We live in a clean
communications ecosystem.

1554
01:32:51,570 --> 01:32:53,880
trustful what? What was it
again? I gotta write it down.

1555
01:32:53,910 --> 01:32:56,490
What was this? What was the
phrase again? Yes, please.

1556
01:32:57,480 --> 01:33:01,230
John C Dvorak: Truth base, true
transparent media. Truth

1557
01:33:01,230 --> 01:33:04,470
Adam Curry: based. Transparent
media.

1558
01:33:04,980 --> 01:33:05,490
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's,

1559
01:33:05,610 --> 01:33:09,240
Adam Curry: that's the that's
the world we live in. Well, and

1560
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:14,460
so then there's this, let me
see. Whereas this is this was

1561
01:33:14,730 --> 01:33:17,880
they even say it in the clip
here, which is really quite

1562
01:33:18,180 --> 01:33:19,410
phenomenal. Tonight.

1563
01:33:19,410 --> 01:33:22,110
Unknown: The former Minneapolis
Police Officer convicted in the

1564
01:33:22,110 --> 01:33:25,590
murder of George Floyd
hospitalized after being stabbed

1565
01:33:25,590 --> 01:33:28,650
at the Arizona prison where he's
serving a more than 20 year

1566
01:33:28,650 --> 01:33:32,610
sentence. A law enforcement
source tells NBC News that Derek

1567
01:33:32,610 --> 01:33:36,030
Chauvin was seriously injured
from the attack, which happened

1568
01:33:36,030 --> 01:33:39,090
at a medium security Federal
Correctional Institution in

1569
01:33:39,090 --> 01:33:42,690
Tucson. Chauvin was transferred
there as part of a plea deal

1570
01:33:42,690 --> 01:33:45,630
that allowed him to move out of
a high security state prison in

1571
01:33:45,630 --> 01:33:50,400
Minnesota, find the defendant
guilty in 2021 Shogun was found

1572
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:53,880
guilty of murdering George Floyd
after being recorded on video

1573
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:57,360
kneeling on Floyd's neck for
about nine minutes. In a

1574
01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:00,480
statement the Bureau of Prisons
confirmed an assault happened

1575
01:34:00,480 --> 01:34:04,530
around 12:30pm local time Friday
but did not name Chauvin. The

1576
01:34:04,530 --> 01:34:08,070
agency said employers performed
life saving measures before

1577
01:34:08,070 --> 01:34:12,630
transferring the inmate to the
hospital. Is there a concern

1578
01:34:12,630 --> 01:34:15,810
about security in prison for
high profile inmates?

1579
01:34:16,110 --> 01:34:19,590
There is always a security
concern for people who are

1580
01:34:19,590 --> 01:34:23,640
famous or infamous or police
officers law enforcement in

1581
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:27,570
prisons. medium security does
not mean medium safety.

1582
01:34:27,870 --> 01:34:30,750
The stabbing comes after show
them recently spoke out for a

1583
01:34:30,750 --> 01:34:34,410
new documentary where he calls
his trial a sham and says the

1584
01:34:34,410 --> 01:34:37,380
knee restraint was a technique
he learned in police training,

1585
01:34:37,440 --> 01:34:40,740
excellent restraint technique,
right in their written policy

1586
01:34:40,740 --> 01:34:44,340
manual. And no comment tonight
from shoguns attorney, the

1587
01:34:44,340 --> 01:34:47,070
Office for the Minnesota
Attorney General so Shogun is

1588
01:34:47,070 --> 01:34:49,230
expected to survive. So

1589
01:34:49,230 --> 01:34:52,710
Adam Curry: two things about
this. One is this documentary

1590
01:34:52,710 --> 01:34:55,740
just came out about a week and a
half ago called The fall of

1591
01:34:55,740 --> 01:34:58,920
Minneapolis. I don't know if
you've seen it by any chance. I

1592
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:03,750
tried to watch it You found it
unwatchable. Yeah. Oh,

1593
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,870
John C Dvorak: I thought it was
quite interesting. And I

1594
01:35:06,870 --> 01:35:08,100
couldn't watch it. I'm sorry.
And

1595
01:35:08,100 --> 01:35:12,150
Adam Curry: the two things that
jump out, both we have covered

1596
01:35:12,150 --> 01:35:17,010
and we knew is that indeed this
particular move is covered in

1597
01:35:17,010 --> 01:35:21,300
the police training manual. And
to that George flowing basically

1598
01:35:21,300 --> 01:35:25,410
died of an overdose and the
autopsy showed it, right. So of

1599
01:35:25,410 --> 01:35:29,580
course, the coincidence of this
is a crowdfunded documentary, so

1600
01:35:29,580 --> 01:35:33,030
it's available for free, it's
out there. I have a link to it

1601
01:35:33,030 --> 01:35:36,000
in the show notes. So the
coincidence of this guy getting

1602
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:39,960
shivved in prison while this
thing just drops is one. The

1603
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:47,220
other one is Hello, Trump.
message if we get you in jail,

1604
01:35:47,250 --> 01:35:48,900
we're gonna get you're gonna get
shivved

1605
01:35:51,660 --> 01:35:53,070
John C Dvorak: Don't you think
that's an interesting

1606
01:35:53,130 --> 01:35:55,710
interpretation? I didn't
anticipate I thought

1607
01:35:55,710 --> 01:36:00,330
Adam Curry: about immediately
Yeah, don't don't show up here

1608
01:36:00,330 --> 01:36:03,330
with your truth based
transparent thinking.

1609
01:36:03,900 --> 01:36:06,480
John C Dvorak: Well, my my
thoughts on it were the just the

1610
01:36:06,480 --> 01:36:07,050
opposite of

1611
01:36:07,050 --> 01:36:08,370
Adam Curry: that. Oh,
interesting.

1612
01:36:09,540 --> 01:36:12,540
John C Dvorak: I'm thinking that
they're setting this guy up this

1613
01:36:12,540 --> 01:36:18,330
cop to get a clemency. It's
gonna be too unsafe for him

1614
01:36:18,330 --> 01:36:20,820
that's showing that you know
this. Now they have to look back

1615
01:36:20,820 --> 01:36:23,820
at the old evidence, and it's
quite like, oh, he killed the

1616
01:36:23,820 --> 01:36:28,200
guy. Oh, very well, but blah,
blah. So you come out with the

1617
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:30,450
movie and do that. You can't.

1618
01:36:30,630 --> 01:36:32,820
Adam Curry: This is what the
whole George, this is what the

1619
01:36:32,820 --> 01:36:35,970
Black Lives Matter. Riots are
based on. You

1620
01:36:36,990 --> 01:36:39,690
John C Dvorak: can slip it in
without a lot of publicity. And

1621
01:36:39,690 --> 01:36:40,530
he'll be out.

1622
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:45,330
Adam Curry: Wow. Okay. I hadn't
hadn't thought of that one. I'm

1623
01:36:45,330 --> 01:36:52,350
a little more cynical. Wow.
Okay. Oh, it's

1624
01:36:52,350 --> 01:36:54,240
John C Dvorak: not good. They're
having enough trouble getting

1625
01:36:54,270 --> 01:36:57,360
police recruited. They're going
to have to give this guy cut

1626
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:59,640
this guy some slack. Meanwhile,

1627
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:01,770
Adam Curry: plenty of other
messages going out in

1628
01:37:01,770 --> 01:37:07,110
particular. Here's here's here's
what you do not. Mayors and

1629
01:37:07,110 --> 01:37:10,680
governors of America do not
speak against our immigration

1630
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:14,580
policy. Do not complain about
what we're doing here in the

1631
01:37:14,580 --> 01:37:18,630
White House. Because we're going
to re educate you

1632
01:37:18,660 --> 01:37:21,480
Unknown: this morning. New York
Mayor Eric Adams denies knowing

1633
01:37:21,480 --> 01:37:24,870
the woman who claims in a court
filing he sexually assaulted her

1634
01:37:24,870 --> 01:37:26,760
in 1993. It's

1635
01:37:28,500 --> 01:37:34,080
absolutely not true. You know, I
would I would, I would never do

1636
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:39,300
anything to harm anyone just
really something absolutely

1637
01:37:39,300 --> 01:37:44,040
dead. That has never happened
and I don't recall ever meeting

1638
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:48,330
the person who made the this
allegation.

1639
01:37:48,570 --> 01:37:51,990
The woman's legal filing contain
no details, but said Adams

1640
01:37:51,990 --> 01:37:55,380
caused physical psychological
and other injuries suffered as a

1641
01:37:55,380 --> 01:37:59,010
result of conduct that would
constitute sexual offences when

1642
01:37:59,010 --> 01:38:02,670
they both worked for the city.
30 years ago. Adams was a police

1643
01:38:02,670 --> 01:38:03,630
captain at the time.

1644
01:38:03,660 --> 01:38:05,460
Adam Curry: This is what's
interesting, because there's a

1645
01:38:05,460 --> 01:38:08,910
whole bunch of these for one
particular reason which I was

1646
01:38:08,970 --> 01:38:09,810
unaware of

1647
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,000
Unknown: the woman filed their
claim under New York's adult

1648
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:15,570
survivors Act that allows sexual
misconduct accusers to file

1649
01:38:15,570 --> 01:38:18,270
civil lawsuits that would have
otherwise been barred by the

1650
01:38:18,270 --> 01:38:21,960
statute of limitations. Actor
Jamie Foxx is also facing a

1651
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:24,480
claim under the adult survivors
act by a woman who said he

1652
01:38:24,480 --> 01:38:28,680
sexually assaulted her at a
rooftop bar in 2015. He said the

1653
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:32,070
alleged incident never happened.
And now he's threatening legal

1654
01:38:32,070 --> 01:38:35,580
action of his own and a former
model accused Guns and Roses

1655
01:38:35,580 --> 01:38:39,720
frontman Axl Rose have a violent
1989 Sexual Assault under the

1656
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:43,560
same law. His attorney called
the claim fictional and said it

1657
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:47,100
never happened. Sean Combs who
recently settled one lawsuit

1658
01:38:47,100 --> 01:38:50,070
filed under the adult survivors
Act was hit with a second by a

1659
01:38:50,070 --> 01:38:53,850
woman who says he drugged and
sexually assaulted her at 1991.

1660
01:38:54,060 --> 01:38:57,330
Combs denied it has spokesperson
calling the claim made up and

1661
01:38:57,330 --> 01:39:01,080
not credible. And saying in a
statement to ABC News. This last

1662
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:04,470
minute lawsuit is an example of
how a well intentioned law can

1663
01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:05,640
be turned on its head.

1664
01:39:05,850 --> 01:39:07,860
Adam Curry: So all these
lawsuits came out because this

1665
01:39:07,860 --> 01:39:15,570
this law is expiring this adult
assault law. And I think the I

1666
01:39:15,570 --> 01:39:18,990
think it has expired now
everybody had to get there. This

1667
01:39:18,990 --> 01:39:23,220
lawsuit against Mayor Adams got
in like the night before, which

1668
01:39:23,220 --> 01:39:30,870
is good news, John, because we
dodged the bullet there. This is

1669
01:39:30,870 --> 01:39:35,730
a this is a male. This is what
that lady sued Trump over under

1670
01:39:35,730 --> 01:39:42,060
the same law. Yeah. So, you
know, I don't know, man, but

1671
01:39:42,060 --> 01:39:44,820
Eric Adams didn't sound very
convincing. I have to say,

1672
01:39:45,150 --> 01:39:47,490
John C Dvorak: this is
absolutely not true. There is

1673
01:39:47,490 --> 01:39:53,280
still a Biden play. Of course,
as a New York Mayor bitching and

1674
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:58,080
moaning and then cutting, you
know, getting the Cardi B thing

1675
01:39:58,080 --> 01:39:58,920
did happen.

1676
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,090
Adam Curry: It says, I loved you
know, we never played it because

1677
01:40:03,090 --> 01:40:04,920
it's just x politically is

1678
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,320
John C Dvorak: extremely
offensive. But what she starts

1679
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:10,140
Adam Curry: off by saying, Hey
y'all, if I get if I just get

1680
01:40:10,140 --> 01:40:16,950
disappeared, I'm not suicidal,
I'm Cardi B. Love that part.

1681
01:40:18,119 --> 01:40:22,109
John C Dvorak: I'm she's, she's
not gonna rousing to an extreme,

1682
01:40:22,109 --> 01:40:22,229
he's

1683
01:40:22,230 --> 01:40:27,510
Adam Curry: not going to get
disappeared. No, no, no, no. But

1684
01:40:27,510 --> 01:40:33,780
yeah, it's it's just all crazy.
And it really everything is so

1685
01:40:33,780 --> 01:40:37,260
incredibly political and, and
people are just falling for it.

1686
01:40:37,260 --> 01:40:43,920
We still back and forth back and
forth about Palestine. Oh, my

1687
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:53,580
goodness. This this. So they had
a big protest in it, I think it

1688
01:40:53,580 --> 01:41:00,420
was London. And when they claim
300,000 people, which I'm right

1689
01:41:00,420 --> 01:41:04,050
on board, I'm sure it was that
big. But this, you know, the

1690
01:41:04,050 --> 01:41:09,510
signs are professional. And the
spokes person you'll hear is a

1691
01:41:09,510 --> 01:41:14,670
spokesperson for the Palestine
Solidarity campaign. The

1692
01:41:14,670 --> 01:41:17,430
Unknown: golems in Gaza may have
fallen silent for now, but

1693
01:41:17,430 --> 01:41:20,340
around the world calls for a
permanent ends to the violence

1694
01:41:20,370 --> 01:41:25,830
continue to grow louder.
Organizers estimated at least

1695
01:41:25,830 --> 01:41:30,120
300,000 marched through central
London on Saturday, in what

1696
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:33,540
marks the seventh straight week
of demonstrations in the UK,

1697
01:41:33,810 --> 01:41:38,520
supporting Palestinians. The
demands throughout that time

1698
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,340
have remained the same, a
permanent end to the crisis in

1699
01:41:41,340 --> 01:41:43,290
Gaza, not just a pause.

1700
01:41:43,710 --> 01:41:46,710
Week after week, pro Palestinian
protests have paralyzed the

1701
01:41:46,710 --> 01:41:50,040
streets of western cities. While
the demands for a permanent

1702
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:53,040
ceasefire still haven't been
met. There is a growing belief

1703
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,590
here that their voice is one
that's being heard.

1704
01:41:56,010 --> 01:41:59,400
There is no doubt Israel did not
want to agree to this temporary

1705
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:02,520
pause. The deal were finally
accepted was put on the table

1706
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:05,370
two or three weeks ago. They
didn't want to accept it. Why is

1707
01:42:05,370 --> 01:42:08,700
he accepted it as accepted it
because it has been put under

1708
01:42:08,700 --> 01:42:12,060
some pressure by governments,
international governments,

1709
01:42:12,060 --> 01:42:15,090
particularly Western
governments. But why are they

1710
01:42:15,090 --> 01:42:19,440
doing that they're doing that
because across the piece here in

1711
01:42:19,440 --> 01:42:22,500
the UK, but also elsewhere,
people are making clear that

1712
01:42:22,500 --> 01:42:24,660
their governments are not
representing their views.

1713
01:42:27,090 --> 01:42:30,420
Similar action was seen on
Saturday elsewhere in Europe, in

1714
01:42:30,420 --> 01:42:34,140
Frankfurt, the number of Marches
was smaller, but no less vocal.

1715
01:42:36,990 --> 01:42:40,410
As in London, people said
something more needs to change.

1716
01:42:41,100 --> 01:42:45,090
Adam Curry: So I go to the
Palestine Solidarity campaign,

1717
01:42:45,660 --> 01:42:50,340
which is at Palestine
campaign.org. And they are not a

1718
01:42:50,340 --> 01:42:54,540
nonprofit. They say themselves
we are a political organization.

1719
01:42:55,680 --> 01:43:01,440
They are a big movers behind the
BDS movement, boycott, divest

1720
01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:07,560
and sanctify whatever it is. And
who are patrons who is at the

1721
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:12,750
top of the list. John Austin,
former Labour MP, Jeremy Corbyn

1722
01:43:12,750 --> 01:43:20,520
and Labour MP, Victoria Britain,
editor, Guardian, these are

1723
01:43:20,790 --> 01:43:25,920
leftist leftist status, who only
want you to vote out the current

1724
01:43:25,950 --> 01:43:31,170
politicians. They don't care
about babies and incubators. I

1725
01:43:31,170 --> 01:43:32,490
John C Dvorak: shouldn't think
so

1726
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:38,730
Adam Curry: these it's all it's
just all political, just like

1727
01:43:38,730 --> 01:43:41,640
we're doing in the United States
and the audit, spin everybody

1728
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:46,770
up, get them all wacky, and then
tell them to vote that guy out.

1729
01:43:47,340 --> 01:43:48,390
That's all that it is.

1730
01:43:50,550 --> 01:43:52,830
John C Dvorak: And I don't I
don't know that. In that case.

1731
01:43:52,860 --> 01:43:56,070
Definitely. There's no sincerity
whatsoever. Now, you

1732
01:43:56,070 --> 01:43:59,970
Adam Curry: talked earlier about
the protests in Israel. They are

1733
01:43:59,970 --> 01:44:05,580
protesting in front of the Prime
Minister's home bebes pad. And

1734
01:44:05,730 --> 01:44:10,200
here is now this is this is from
TRT, of course, the Turkish

1735
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:12,720
radio and television which we'll
get no. So take that for the

1736
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:18,000
slant they have. So this is one
guy. His name is E tie. He's

1737
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:21,390
miked up. So it's not like a man
on the streets like, Hey, stand

1738
01:44:21,390 --> 01:44:24,090
here. Let me make you up. And
let's hear what he has to say.

1739
01:44:24,180 --> 01:44:28,170
Unknown: I have never, for one
single moment in my life have

1740
01:44:28,170 --> 01:44:32,880
trusted this man. I think he's a
psychopath. I think he's he's a

1741
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:37,890
lunatic. Not just I think that
lots of people. I would never

1742
01:44:37,890 --> 01:44:42,570
trust him with anything. Not
him, not as government. They're

1743
01:44:42,570 --> 01:44:46,140
dangerous people. They're
extremists. They're fascists.

1744
01:44:46,170 --> 01:44:49,260
They're racists. They're
fanatics. They don't want to

1745
01:44:49,260 --> 01:44:53,400
face they want more because it
serves their own self interest.

1746
01:44:53,940 --> 01:44:59,490
While most of the people on both
sides you know, Israelis

1747
01:44:59,490 --> 01:45:02,880
Palestine. humans alike. They
are the people who pay the

1748
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:07,710
price. They are the ones who
suffer. They are the ones whose

1749
01:45:07,710 --> 01:45:11,340
lives are lost while they keep
the power in their hands.

1750
01:45:11,580 --> 01:45:16,980
Estonia is just like Donald
Trump, just like the Russia

1751
01:45:16,980 --> 01:45:22,380
weeks, just like Hitler. These
people do everything to keep

1752
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:26,040
power in their hands and they
don't care if everything else

1753
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:29,970
crumbles. They can destroy
everything just as long as they

1754
01:45:29,970 --> 01:45:33,690
remain in power. Just like he
told the German people you're

1755
01:45:33,690 --> 01:45:38,220
not worthy of living. Because if
I go down, you go down with me.

1756
01:45:38,580 --> 01:45:40,380
Same thing with him. So

1757
01:45:40,380 --> 01:45:43,350
Adam Curry: Hitler, it all comes
back to Hitler and Donald Trump.

1758
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:48,660
John C Dvorak: That was
beautiful. Except there was over

1759
01:45:48,660 --> 01:45:50,580
modulate, learn Trump you can't
beat it

1760
01:45:50,580 --> 01:45:53,010
Adam Curry: was a little over
modulated the TRT needs some

1761
01:45:53,010 --> 01:45:55,710
work on their audio, they could
do better there, they could do a

1762
01:45:57,390 --> 01:46:00,390
little update on the the
investigation from the

1763
01:46:00,420 --> 01:46:03,150
department of education because
as you know, we're also a civil

1764
01:46:03,150 --> 01:46:05,970
rights organization. We're gonna
dive in and see what's happening

1765
01:46:05,970 --> 01:46:08,760
because we can't have any more
of this genocide Joe talk. No,

1766
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:10,290
no, no, NBC take it away.

1767
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:12,870
Unknown: Department of Education
is now investigating alleged

1768
01:46:12,870 --> 01:46:15,750
harassment complaints at Cornell
and other schools.

1769
01:46:15,780 --> 01:46:17,970
It's just been really, really
challenging for people on this

1770
01:46:17,970 --> 01:46:20,730
campus. When I'm seeing my peers
marched down the streets

1771
01:46:20,730 --> 01:46:23,730
chanting things like from the
river to the sea, which we've

1772
01:46:23,730 --> 01:46:27,480
seen as really a call for
genocide or an ethnic cleansing

1773
01:46:27,480 --> 01:46:28,500
of Jewish people.

1774
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:32,070
Many Jewish students see that
slogan from the river to the sea

1775
01:46:32,190 --> 01:46:36,030
as a call for violence. Many
Muslim students say it's a call

1776
01:46:36,030 --> 01:46:37,230
for equal rights.

1777
01:46:37,260 --> 01:46:40,170
The thing says, from the root to
the sea, Palestine will be free.

1778
01:46:40,410 --> 01:46:42,990
So question is, where is it from
the river to the sea?

1779
01:46:42,990 --> 01:46:45,600
Palestinians shouldn't feel
safe? That's a better question.

1780
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:48,330
I think we should entertain.
Let's look at the map and say, I

1781
01:46:48,330 --> 01:46:51,600
want Palestinians to be free. I
want Jewish folk to be free,

1782
01:46:51,870 --> 01:46:54,450
everywhere from the river to the
sea. That's what it means.

1783
01:46:54,660 --> 01:46:57,810
My problem is with that slogan
and specific not whatever

1784
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:02,010
message anyone thinks they're
sharing with it, because Hamas

1785
01:47:02,010 --> 01:47:04,470
has used it. It's been
appropriated by a terrorist

1786
01:47:04,470 --> 01:47:06,180
organization. Cornell

1787
01:47:06,180 --> 01:47:09,090
has increased security and
promised new programs to fight

1788
01:47:09,090 --> 01:47:13,320
anti semitism and tells NBC News
they condemn all forms of

1789
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:14,820
discriminatory bias.

1790
01:47:14,910 --> 01:47:22,200
Adam Curry: Yeah, okay, fine. My
favorite propaganda technique

1791
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:26,220
that I see is I didn't clip it
because it's just way too long.

1792
01:47:26,220 --> 01:47:30,780
But there's a Muslim woman
Muslim, and she has the just her

1793
01:47:30,780 --> 01:47:33,930
face is visible. So that's not
it's obviously not a burqa, it's

1794
01:47:33,930 --> 01:47:39,600
not the what is that? That's the
job. Is that the hijab and maybe

1795
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:39,720
the

1796
01:47:41,250 --> 01:47:44,430
John C Dvorak: hijab, our knee
jerk, you tackle a guy too low.

1797
01:47:47,970 --> 01:47:50,790
Adam Curry: And it goes like
this. Do you know Roald Dahl

1798
01:47:50,790 --> 01:47:54,510
Roald Dahl, who wrote Charlie in
the Chocolate Factory? Roald

1799
01:47:54,510 --> 01:47:57,390
Dahl, who wrote James and the
Giant Peach that guy loved by

1800
01:47:57,390 --> 01:47:59,850
children all around the world.
Have you ever heard of his book

1801
01:47:59,850 --> 01:48:00,750
going solo?

1802
01:48:02,460 --> 01:48:05,010
John C Dvorak: And talking about
is that about masturbation?

1803
01:48:06,900 --> 01:48:09,180
Adam Curry: You're just full of
them today, aren't you? Oh my

1804
01:48:09,180 --> 01:48:14,220
goodness. Roald Dahl was a pilot
in the Royal Air Force and in

1805
01:48:14,220 --> 01:48:18,540
1938 and it's a very shortened
version how they tell this he

1806
01:48:18,540 --> 01:48:23,460
landed in, in Palestine. And he
was and this is like, he was in

1807
01:48:23,460 --> 01:48:26,100
Palestine. Don't you get it? He
was in Palestine. It was

1808
01:48:26,100 --> 01:48:29,370
Palestine. He landed in
Palestine. And there was it

1809
01:48:29,370 --> 01:48:34,290
wasn't Israel. It was Palestine.
so easily. Disregarding the

1810
01:48:34,290 --> 01:48:38,790
entire region was Palestine
including Syria Golan Heights.

1811
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:43,470
And then you know, and this
somehow is supposed to prove

1812
01:48:43,470 --> 01:48:47,430
that that wasn't it wasn't 1938
This wasn't Israel. It was

1813
01:48:47,430 --> 01:48:52,650
Palestine in 1938. It was the
British ran the whole joint in

1814
01:48:52,650 --> 01:48:57,840
1938 True. Are you forgetting
something? Bretton ran the joint

1815
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:01,530
after the audit of the collapse
of the Ottoman Empire? It's it's

1816
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:05,850
the the lack of history of
knowledge of history is

1817
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:07,350
astounding.

1818
01:49:07,620 --> 01:49:09,090
John C Dvorak: It's not really
astounding.

1819
01:49:09,660 --> 01:49:12,360
Adam Curry: It's disappointing.
Well, there's

1820
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:13,320
John C Dvorak: that yeah, I'm

1821
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:15,780
Adam Curry: to the point where
we're gonna ruin our Macy's

1822
01:49:15,780 --> 01:49:17,370
Thanksgiving Day Parade. Also

1823
01:49:17,370 --> 01:49:20,190
Unknown: in New York City, pro
Palestinian protesters disrupted

1824
01:49:20,190 --> 01:49:22,530
the annual Macy's Thanksgiving
Day Parade.

1825
01:49:27,570 --> 01:49:30,510
Demonstrators jumped barricades
and ran into the street with

1826
01:49:30,510 --> 01:49:33,540
some gluing their hands to the
ground were later taken into

1827
01:49:33,540 --> 01:49:36,150
custody. This comes amid
heightened tensions over the

1828
01:49:36,150 --> 01:49:39,570
war, the Middle East, ABC News
has learned that pro Palestinian

1829
01:49:39,570 --> 01:49:42,660
protesters planted demonstrated
shopping malls across the

1830
01:49:42,660 --> 01:49:44,130
country on Black Friday.

1831
01:49:46,710 --> 01:49:51,030
Adam Curry: So we finally found
a protest who's who's doing or

1832
01:49:51,030 --> 01:49:53,490
to someone who's who's
Islamophobic has been very

1833
01:49:53,490 --> 01:49:57,660
difficult to find this. You
know, this is why a genocide Joe

1834
01:49:57,660 --> 01:50:01,110
there in the White House is
saying hey, We won't tolerate

1835
01:50:01,110 --> 01:50:05,250
anti semitism or Islamophobia,
which I still think should be

1836
01:50:05,250 --> 01:50:10,890
some of phobia and Islamophobia.
Okay. But we found a guy. We

1837
01:50:10,890 --> 01:50:13,080
found the guy and oh in

1838
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:15,990
Unknown: New York City, a one
time adviser to President Obama

1839
01:50:16,380 --> 01:50:19,950
stood after he was caught on
camera heard this guy vendor

1840
01:50:19,950 --> 01:50:23,910
with an Islamophobic rant.
Stephanie Goss has details

1841
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:24,810
I'm working now.

1842
01:50:25,710 --> 01:50:29,850
Can you live videos are hard to
watch. We killed 4000

1843
01:50:29,850 --> 01:50:30,840
Palestinian kids. You

1844
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:32,070
know why he wasn't enough

1845
01:50:32,340 --> 01:50:37,080
on multiple occasions. National
Security Adviser for President

1846
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:42,090
Obama, no street vendor in
Manhattan terrorists to support

1847
01:50:42,090 --> 01:50:48,480
terrorists unless you go hurling
Islamophobic insults rape your

1848
01:50:48,480 --> 01:50:55,080
daughter like Muhammad. Speaking
salvo it's also questions the

1849
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:57,060
vendors immigration status.

1850
01:50:57,090 --> 01:50:58,350
Yeah, American citizen.

1851
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:01,380
And how did you become an
American citizen at one point

1852
01:51:01,410 --> 01:51:06,000
taunting him by taking his
picture? The 64 year old is

1853
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:08,850
facing multiple charges
including stalking as a hate

1854
01:51:08,850 --> 01:51:09,240
crime

1855
01:51:09,450 --> 01:51:12,330
Adam Curry: and harassment
according to the NYPD, man, why

1856
01:51:12,330 --> 01:51:14,070
don't have to be one of our
guys.

1857
01:51:14,700 --> 01:51:17,220
John C Dvorak: You know what's
funny, is that they say it's

1858
01:51:17,220 --> 01:51:22,950
hard to watch. Yeah, because
it's really boring. He has a

1859
01:51:22,980 --> 01:51:26,100
zinger every few minutes but
it's like you watch this guy

1860
01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:29,190
just basically standing in front
of this guy stand and we're you

1861
01:51:29,190 --> 01:51:32,010
know, falafel place the guys
that Coptic Christian by the

1862
01:51:32,010 --> 01:51:35,130
way, while it runs the stand,
oh, and the guy standing there

1863
01:51:35,130 --> 01:51:38,400
is yakking away yakking away and
yakking away so, you know, who

1864
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:42,330
the hell would you turn? You
can't watch it. But it was

1865
01:51:42,330 --> 01:51:44,190
boring. I agree. What a joker.

1866
01:51:44,940 --> 01:51:48,180
Adam Curry: And anyways, it
seems like you know, we got to

1867
01:51:48,180 --> 01:51:52,410
shut this thing down to because
this is very annoying to

1868
01:51:52,890 --> 01:51:56,760
genocide, Joe. And we got it. We
got to come up with solutions

1869
01:51:56,760 --> 01:52:00,450
BB. BB. You got people out there
talking to you like like your

1870
01:52:00,450 --> 01:52:03,750
trump. So you don't want to be
Trump or Hitler. So BB do

1871
01:52:03,750 --> 01:52:06,810
something. How about can we do a
little thing with some hostages

1872
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:07,110
in over

1873
01:52:07,110 --> 01:52:09,600
Unknown: the next three days?
We're expecting to see more

1874
01:52:09,630 --> 01:52:13,590
hostages released 50? No, but
there are hopes that perhaps

1875
01:52:13,590 --> 01:52:15,720
that number could increase
further. Yeah. So

1876
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:20,190
50 is over the course of this
what was agreed to be a four day

1877
01:52:20,430 --> 01:52:24,120
ceasefire. But there is an
agreement, what's been termed an

1878
01:52:24,150 --> 01:52:27,990
option to extend for a further
five days. And you will see in

1879
01:52:27,990 --> 01:52:33,960
that period, anywhere between
1011 12 up to 13 hostages

1880
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:38,820
released again, per day. And in
return for each hostage that is

1881
01:52:39,150 --> 01:52:43,650
released, three Palestinian
prisoners would be freed by

1882
01:52:43,890 --> 01:52:47,670
Israel. Now, my understanding of
this is that it would be a

1883
01:52:47,670 --> 01:52:51,390
maximum of five days, because
the entire scope of this

1884
01:52:51,390 --> 01:52:54,540
agreement is around civilian
women and children. And it's

1885
01:52:54,540 --> 01:52:57,870
taught that there are around
100, in that category, held

1886
01:52:57,870 --> 01:53:02,520
captive by Hamas in Gaza. So
after that point, that takes you

1887
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:06,270
to Around 100 people. I mean, if
they got to a point where 100

1888
01:53:06,450 --> 01:53:09,810
civilian women and children were
freed, you would then be into

1889
01:53:09,810 --> 01:53:13,230
other categories of captives
that would include soldiers and

1890
01:53:13,230 --> 01:53:16,170
also the men being held. Now
they are not part of the scope

1891
01:53:16,500 --> 01:53:19,530
of this agreement. And that's
why it has been termed as a

1892
01:53:19,530 --> 01:53:23,220
maximum sort of nine days. And
after that, you've got both

1893
01:53:23,220 --> 01:53:25,140
sides saying the war will go on.

1894
01:53:28,500 --> 01:53:32,310
Adam Curry: Biden, who knows
that this was a gaffe or

1895
01:53:32,310 --> 01:53:36,000
intentional. We don't know any
more with our president. But

1896
01:53:36,030 --> 01:53:39,030
because he doesn't really know,
I don't really have any proof of

1897
01:53:39,030 --> 01:53:42,150
what I'm saying. But let me just
throw something out there. Next

1898
01:53:42,150 --> 01:53:47,520
question, please. Leaders, what
are you hearing from them when

1899
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:52,350
you talk to them? Hoping to get
cooperation from Arab leaders to

1900
01:53:52,350 --> 01:53:54,240
release them hostages? What do
you say, Mr. President?

1901
01:53:54,930 --> 01:53:56,880
Unknown: I'm hearing a lot but
I'm not going to speak to it

1902
01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:59,790
right now. There's an
overwhelming desire on the part

1903
01:53:59,820 --> 01:54:06,120
of the region to let me back up
I'm I cannot prove it. I'm about

1904
01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:10,470
to say. But I believe one of the
reasons why I'm awestruck when

1905
01:54:10,470 --> 01:54:14,040
they did was they knew that I
was working very closely with

1906
01:54:14,220 --> 01:54:18,210
the Saudis and others in the
region, to bring peace to the

1907
01:54:18,210 --> 01:54:22,770
region by having recognition of
Israel. Israel's right to exist.

1908
01:54:22,770 --> 01:54:23,160
We met

1909
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:25,410
Adam Curry: you mean, Trump's
Abraham accords. That's what you

1910
01:54:25,410 --> 01:54:26,670
were doing. Mr. President.

1911
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:31,110
Unknown: You may recall when we
did the G 21 of a while ago, I

1912
01:54:31,110 --> 01:54:34,530
was able to get a resolution I
made a statement pass through

1913
01:54:34,530 --> 01:54:38,070
there. Say we're going to build
a railroad from Riyadh all the

1914
01:54:38,070 --> 01:54:41,790
way through the Middle East,
into Saudi Arabia, Israel and

1915
01:54:41,790 --> 01:54:44,580
center and all the way up to
your what not to read it, not

1916
01:54:44,580 --> 01:54:47,820
the railroad, but it'd be an
underground pipeline, railroad

1917
01:54:49,020 --> 01:54:51,000
Adam Curry: and underground
pipeline railroad. What

1918
01:54:52,260 --> 01:54:56,100
Unknown: was crazy to not the
railroad, underground pipeline

1919
01:54:56,100 --> 01:54:59,580
and then railroad. The whole
idea is there's overwhelming

1920
01:54:59,580 --> 01:55:02,790
interest I think most Arab
nations know it, and

1921
01:55:02,790 --> 01:55:06,210
coordinating with one another to
change the dynamic in their

1922
01:55:06,210 --> 01:55:10,710
region for longer term peace.
And that is what I'm going to

1923
01:55:10,710 --> 01:55:11,550
continue to work on.

1924
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:15,360
Adam Curry: But I have no
evidence of it. Geez, what is he

1925
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:16,140
doing?

1926
01:55:17,070 --> 01:55:19,470
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that whole
thing that you just played was,

1927
01:55:19,650 --> 01:55:22,170
was played, I don't have that
clip where they were they're

1928
01:55:22,170 --> 01:55:26,970
doing it. But our T played that
clip and ridiculed him endlessly

1929
01:55:26,970 --> 01:55:30,180
saying he's not. He's taking
credit for stuff that no, but

1930
01:55:30,180 --> 01:55:32,880
that we already know, is being
done here, there. And everywhere

1931
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:36,330
else besides him, he's out of
the loop. Exactly. went on and

1932
01:55:36,330 --> 01:55:39,960
on about it. It was actually
quite funny. Although it was,

1933
01:55:39,990 --> 01:55:42,120
you know, hard to prove one way
or the other, but they

1934
01:55:42,390 --> 01:55:45,600
definitely are in the mood for
and I think Terry's got

1935
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:48,390
something to do with mocking
him. Well,

1936
01:55:48,390 --> 01:55:50,640
Adam Curry: she's the one she's
good at it. She's good at this

1937
01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:51,810
stuff. Who know.

1938
01:55:53,220 --> 01:55:55,830
John C Dvorak: Who knows, I do
have one kind of an odd report

1939
01:55:55,830 --> 01:55:59,190
that I did pick up that we
didn't we have never heard of.

1940
01:55:59,550 --> 01:56:03,840
Okay. And this is the US
attacks. You know, when they

1941
01:56:04,290 --> 01:56:07,530
Iranians were sending missiles
into hitting with some of our

1942
01:56:07,530 --> 01:56:12,240
bases in Syria in Iraq, we
counter countered with a few,

1943
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:17,220
you know, bomb bombing runs. And
yeah, well, I guess one of the

1944
01:56:17,220 --> 01:56:20,370
ones we did in Iraq was not
against the Iranians, but

1945
01:56:20,370 --> 01:56:25,350
against the Iraqis. And they
pass a bunch of laws about it,

1946
01:56:25,350 --> 01:56:27,000
and they want us out of the
country.

1947
01:56:27,180 --> 01:56:30,360
Unknown: I think he came out the
Middle East once again, the US

1948
01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:34,860
has unleashed airstrikes on what
he says were Iranian backed

1949
01:56:34,860 --> 01:56:39,030
forces in Iraq, and the attack
was carried out by the AC 130

1950
01:56:39,030 --> 01:56:43,590
gunship known for its side
mounted, Gatling guns and

1951
01:56:43,590 --> 01:56:49,170
airborne artillery. Iraqi troops
were killed heavy Assad airbase,

1952
01:56:49,410 --> 01:56:53,400
Baghdad has condemned the act as
a direct violation of its

1953
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:54,090
sovereignty.

1954
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:57,450
The US strikes were conducted
without the notice of the Iraqi

1955
01:56:57,450 --> 01:57:00,540
Government in what was an
unacceptable violation of Iraqi

1956
01:57:00,540 --> 01:57:01,290
sovereignty.

1957
01:57:02,550 --> 01:57:05,790
Now, we earlier spoke with
independent politician Saad al

1958
01:57:05,790 --> 01:57:09,240
Motta, Alby, who strongly
condemned the US attack on the

1959
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:10,620
Iraqi territory to

1960
01:57:10,620 --> 01:57:18,120
start with, these are Iraqi
fighters with a law that was

1961
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:23,070
passed in the Iraqi parliament.
And they belong with their

1962
01:57:23,070 --> 01:57:29,610
movements and their affiliation
to the Iraqi Ministry of

1963
01:57:29,610 --> 01:57:36,720
Defense, and partially to the
Mobilization Units. So public

1964
01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:42,420
mobilization headquarters, so
they are backed by Iraq, and not

1965
01:57:42,420 --> 01:57:43,110
by Iran.

1966
01:57:45,630 --> 01:57:49,800
John C Dvorak: They were
shooting up the place. Yeah. And

1967
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:52,440
you know, and they don't want us
there part today, I think they

1968
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:53,700
discuss it a bit more.

1969
01:57:54,660 --> 01:58:00,510
Unknown: The attack on these
soldiers fighters was a severe

1970
01:58:00,570 --> 01:58:06,510
and gross violation of Iraqi
sovereignty, this is completely

1971
01:58:06,510 --> 01:58:12,120
condemned. And we think that the
Americans again, have violated

1972
01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:15,780
the agreement they have with the
Republic of Iraq. Therefore, we

1973
01:58:15,780 --> 01:58:19,350
think that the agreement that we
have with the Americans, as many

1974
01:58:19,350 --> 01:58:24,210
people think that this agreement
is null and void, and that has

1975
01:58:24,210 --> 01:58:29,160
no consequences whatsoever. So
why do we have the American

1976
01:58:29,190 --> 01:58:32,670
advisors says they are not
really advisors, they are

1977
01:58:32,670 --> 01:58:36,660
fighting for advisors,
StrikeForce, therefore, there

1978
01:58:36,660 --> 01:58:40,320
have been many calls out with
Iraqi parliament for the

1979
01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:45,270
Americans to cease their
presence in Iraq and move away

1980
01:58:45,270 --> 01:58:49,260
from any type of military
representation. Oh,

1981
01:58:49,260 --> 01:58:53,100
Adam Curry: yeah. So wait, the
advisors aren't just advisors.

1982
01:58:53,730 --> 01:58:55,680
That doesn't sound right. It's

1983
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:57,990
John C Dvorak: like, why are we
there? So I thought we'd left.

1984
01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:02,250
Now was the middle of the night
we took off, we didn't we left

1985
01:59:02,250 --> 01:59:05,460
Iraq and left the green zone to
itself. And then we still have

1986
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the base for some reason. I
mean, do we have any respect for

1987
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another country sovereignty? We
have a base in Syria?

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Adam Curry: Well, you and I do
and I think many people who

1989
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listen to this show do but the
military industrial complex who

1990
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was captured the entire
political system, clearly does

1991
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not. If you want an answer,

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John C Dvorak: no, I didn't
really want an answer. I just

1993
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like to complain. But

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Adam Curry: I want to talk about
cop 29, which is coming up this

1995
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week. Very big event. This is
the big one. This is the big,

1996
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big, big, big, big, really big
tipping point is to do Oh, it's

1997
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there's a lot going on. Now what
we're trying to have happen is

1998
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it will be great if we could
have some volcanic eruptions in

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Iceland, because this would this
would really bring it home

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because you know, climate
change. The glacier melt is

2001
01:59:56,490 --> 02:00:00,330
what's causing these volcanoes
volcanic eruptions. And

2002
02:00:00,360 --> 02:00:02,640
John C Dvorak: of course, we did
get a boots on the ground report

2003
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from one of our buddies or one
of our producers in Iceland,

2004
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which I will share

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02:00:06,690 --> 02:00:11,220
Adam Curry: now. Good. And this
is our resident night in

2006
02:00:11,220 --> 02:00:18,780
Iceland. His name is the night
champion of the frozen wastes,

2007
02:00:18,990 --> 02:00:23,010
and he has real boots on the
ground insight because he has

2008
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spent the last six years as a
glacier guide, he runs his own

2009
02:00:27,060 --> 02:00:31,200
private glacier guiding service
and YouTube channel called vivid

2010
02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:38,580
Iceland. So yes, we have lots of
volcanic activity. In isolated

2011
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most active volcanoes lie
beneath glaciers, these glaciers

2012
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function as a counterbalance to
the mag mag magmatic forces

2013
02:00:46,200 --> 02:00:50,760
below them. We're talking
millions of tons of ice crushing

2014
02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:53,610
the terrain below and
effectively pushing back against

2015
02:00:53,610 --> 02:00:57,210
the uplift that magma can cause
think of applying pressure to a

2016
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wound to stop the bleeding. As
you can imagine, as the glacier

2017
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melts, there's less ice mass on
top, the land rises due to

2018
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volcanic activity and you will
likely see more eruptions. With

2019
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that said, what all these
reports leave out is that the

2020
02:01:10,620 --> 02:01:14,850
location of the earthquake swarm
is in southwest Iceland, a place

2021
02:01:14,850 --> 02:01:24,330
with no glaciers. Yeah, no
glaciers there ice

2022
02:01:24,360 --> 02:01:26,760
John C Dvorak: bullcrap. Which
is funny because they won't talk

2023
02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:30,990
about that. But he also, I think
that's the literally has the 40

2024
02:01:30,990 --> 02:01:36,030
year cycle that he highlighted.
You can read that? Yes.

2025
02:01:37,290 --> 02:01:39,360
Adam Curry: Yes, they are
retreating melting. But

2026
02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:42,150
according to the records from
the Icelandic Met Office, there

2027
02:01:42,150 --> 02:01:45,960
appears to be a 40 ish year
cycle of glacial retreat, and

2028
02:01:45,960 --> 02:01:49,140
then a period again of glacial
advance for about 40 years

2029
02:01:49,140 --> 02:01:54,690
according to the climactic data,
climate, climatic sorry, froid,

2030
02:01:54,810 --> 02:01:59,100
climatic data I've seen over my
guiding career here, we should

2031
02:01:59,100 --> 02:02:01,860
be entering the glacial
advancement stage within the

2032
02:02:01,860 --> 02:02:05,340
next five to 10 years. The
winter, certainly it felt colder

2033
02:02:05,340 --> 02:02:08,460
over the last two years. And
we've seen record snowfall in

2034
02:02:08,460 --> 02:02:12,240
many areas, which would lead to
glacial advance. A few years

2035
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:15,780
down the track, oh, goodness,
there's your boots on the ground

2036
02:02:15,780 --> 02:02:19,830
from a guy who actually takes
people on guided tours over the

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02:02:19,830 --> 02:02:26,040
glaciers. But just believe the
heaven forbid, the truth based

2038
02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:31,710
transparent media. So back back
to cop 29, this is the big one.

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And I believe it's in Saudi
Arabia, I think is where it's

2040
02:02:35,580 --> 02:02:38,940
being held. This is the place
you have to fly into a fly in,

2041
02:02:38,940 --> 02:02:40,650
it's going to be great. There's
going to be you're going to have

2042
02:02:40,710 --> 02:02:44,850
special papers so you can drink
and I think Pierre is coming in

2043
02:02:44,850 --> 02:02:48,810
from Paris to do the lady's
hair. And we have a moment of

2044
02:02:48,810 --> 02:02:54,120
truth, the 28th note taking,
which I thought was 29 to 28.

2045
02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:57,240
John C Dvorak: I don't know
we'll keep the numbers in

2046
02:02:57,240 --> 02:03:01,860
Unknown: Dubai just next to the
International Energy Agency has

2047
02:03:01,860 --> 02:03:06,420
released a report saying that
this is a moment of truth, oil

2048
02:03:06,420 --> 02:03:09,120
and gas industry which needs to
decide whether it wants to

2049
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:13,620
deepen the climate crisis or
help fix it. The report shows

2050
02:03:13,620 --> 02:03:16,920
that the oil industry currently
only accounts for 1% of global

2051
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:19,560
investment in clean energy,
while meanwhile being

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02:03:19,560 --> 02:03:23,550
responsible for about 15% of
global energy related greenhouse

2053
02:03:23,550 --> 02:03:26,340
gas emissions. And that may not
seem like a huge amount but our

2054
02:03:27,030 --> 02:03:30,180
own operations so extracting oil
and gas from the ground

2055
02:03:30,180 --> 02:03:32,970
processing the fuels and
delivering them to consumers.

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02:03:32,970 --> 02:03:35,730
For example, un analysis
released earlier this month

2057
02:03:35,730 --> 02:03:39,000
showed that the planet is set to
heat up by nearly three degrees.

2058
02:03:40,980 --> 02:03:43,980
Where to stand any chance of
limiting the rise in global

2059
02:03:43,980 --> 02:03:48,570
temperatures to 1.5 degrees. The
IEA says drastic measures need

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02:03:48,570 --> 02:03:51,450
to be put into measure. What do
those include, while the report

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02:03:51,450 --> 02:03:54,630
is quite clear in what it wants
from oil and gas players. And so

2062
02:03:54,630 --> 02:03:57,990
the solution is twofold. It
wants them to cut the pollution

2063
02:03:57,990 --> 02:04:01,110
we mentioned earlier by more
than 60%. Something it says

2064
02:04:01,110 --> 02:04:03,480
isn't too difficult, especially
when it comes to methane

2065
02:04:03,480 --> 02:04:07,350
emissions. And it needs to ramp
up its investment in renewables,

2066
02:04:07,620 --> 02:04:12,000
which currently only stands at
about 2.5% of its total capital

2067
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:14,640
spending. It's interesting to
note as well that the report

2068
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:17,250
says the oil and gas industry
needs to let go of carbon

2069
02:04:17,250 --> 02:04:20,460
capture as a solution to climate
change because it's simply not

2070
02:04:20,460 --> 02:04:23,040
adapted to the scale of
emissions.

2071
02:04:23,070 --> 02:04:25,320
Adam Curry: Oh, that doesn't
work anymore.

2072
02:04:25,710 --> 02:04:27,720
John C Dvorak: Oh go figure
since when?

2073
02:04:27,870 --> 02:04:30,840
Adam Curry: Well since cop 28 or
29, or whatever it is, hey, I'm

2074
02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:34,800
having dinner with the oil baron
on Thursday. So I'll hear how

2075
02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:38,130
well his stocks are doing and
how much more Blackrock is

2076
02:04:38,130 --> 02:04:41,160
invested because this is great
for the oil and gas industry.

2077
02:04:42,750 --> 02:04:45,630
But I have I think figured out
what this is going to be about.

2078
02:04:46,140 --> 02:04:52,020
Every single cop has a has a
goal is of course to move the

2079
02:04:52,020 --> 02:04:55,170
needle. We want to move it a
little bit further make people

2080
02:04:55,170 --> 02:04:59,010
afraid worried about the world
coming to an end scare young

2081
02:04:59,010 --> 02:05:01,800
children to not even wanting to
start families of their own

2082
02:05:01,800 --> 02:05:04,080
because why bother, we're all
going to die you don't want to

2083
02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:09,510
see your child die. In, in, in
flames or in the in the water,

2084
02:05:09,510 --> 02:05:12,300
the boiling water, you want to
see him die like lobsters in a

2085
02:05:12,300 --> 02:05:19,680
pot. And your own news did this
report and I think we now know

2086
02:05:19,680 --> 02:05:22,950
what the point is of this cop
wanting

2087
02:05:23,010 --> 02:05:25,830
Unknown: a week before world
leaders meet for the cop 28

2088
02:05:25,830 --> 02:05:29,790
Climate Summit 20 Canada's
hosted EU leaders for summit in

2089
02:05:29,790 --> 02:05:33,270
Newfoundland. Whilst there they
signed up to the green Alliance,

2090
02:05:33,300 --> 02:05:36,150
a package of environmental
pledges to limit climate change

2091
02:05:36,150 --> 02:05:38,970
to one and a half degrees. On

2092
02:05:38,970 --> 02:05:43,080
green issues. We've been aligned
for so long with with the

2093
02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:47,730
European Union, in knowing that
the economy and the environment

2094
02:05:48,120 --> 02:05:51,900
don't just have to go together
they do go together.

2095
02:05:54,270 --> 02:05:57,480
That is another photo
consequences for our society's

2096
02:05:57,930 --> 02:06:04,170
internal change requires
innovation, strengthen ambition

2097
02:06:04,200 --> 02:06:08,520
to work together to innovate, to
develop more technologies to

2098
02:06:08,520 --> 02:06:12,330
resolve those difficulties. And
those challenges together how

2099
02:06:12,630 --> 02:06:13,020
agreed

2100
02:06:13,020 --> 02:06:17,610
to expand carbon pricing, which
is the climate change tax 60% of

2101
02:06:17,610 --> 02:06:20,280
global emissions by 2030. And I
think

2102
02:06:20,490 --> 02:06:25,650
Adam Curry: it is the goal of
cop 28 is to get pricing, they

2103
02:06:25,650 --> 02:06:30,930
desperately need the pricing of
carbon, estimated to be

2104
02:06:30,930 --> 02:06:39,420
somewhere between 50 and $100
per tonne of carbon. Don't even

2105
02:06:39,420 --> 02:06:44,460
say carbon dioxide, just carbon,
just carbon, carbon, black,

2106
02:06:44,460 --> 02:06:48,990
dirty Saudi carbon. And that is
your tax that is your global tax

2107
02:06:48,990 --> 02:06:52,290
that will be taxed on everything
you do. Everything you eat

2108
02:06:52,290 --> 02:06:57,480
everywhere you go. Every every
move you make. Though you have a

2109
02:06:57,480 --> 02:07:00,480
washing machine, here's the
carbon tax that goes on top of

2110
02:07:00,480 --> 02:07:05,130
that for dirtying the world.
That's the point of cop 28. They

2111
02:07:05,130 --> 02:07:07,680
need to get the ability to that
would be a good point that would

2112
02:07:07,680 --> 02:07:12,540
be the one to do. Now in small
ways we're feeling a climate

2113
02:07:12,540 --> 02:07:19,800
change mitigation here.
Interesting. Article from as a

2114
02:07:19,830 --> 02:07:23,430
was it live and let's fly live
and let fly.com live and let's

2115
02:07:23,430 --> 02:07:27,810
fly. We know that in the United
States, but I believe it will be

2116
02:07:27,810 --> 02:07:30,330
worldwide if it isn't already
and one of my buddies from

2117
02:07:30,330 --> 02:07:35,190
Holland, he's a KlM 747 pilot. I
think he's coming in next week I

2118
02:07:35,190 --> 02:07:37,920
hope to be able to talk to him
because he would know he's a

2119
02:07:37,920 --> 02:07:42,840
captain. They're doing these new
approaches the approach now

2120
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:46,770
instead of going down in a stair
step fashion going from flight

2121
02:07:46,770 --> 02:07:52,560
level to flight level to avoid
any chop or any jet wash

2122
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:56,910
turbulence from other aircraft
is a thing of the past we need

2123
02:07:56,910 --> 02:08:00,600
to save on fuel so the airlines
can get their carbon credits,

2124
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:03,570
they're their goody goody
points. So the just retarding

2125
02:08:03,570 --> 02:08:06,720
the engines and we're basically
we're gliding all the way down

2126
02:08:06,720 --> 02:08:11,760
so we use very little fuel and
passengers be damned. And here

2127
02:08:11,760 --> 02:08:15,810
is the article Why service will
end earlier on your next United

2128
02:08:15,810 --> 02:08:22,890
Airlines flight. The effective
December 1 2020 23 flight

2129
02:08:22,890 --> 02:08:25,950
attendants must be safely
buckled into their jump seats

2130
02:08:25,950 --> 02:08:29,700
for landing no later than the
double chime at approximately

2131
02:08:29,700 --> 02:08:34,590
10,000 feet above the ground. So
short haul flights, you're never

2132
02:08:34,590 --> 02:08:38,580
going to see a beverage no and
why is this It even says in the

2133
02:08:38,580 --> 02:08:42,210
article at lower flight
altitudes, pilots are conducting

2134
02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:45,480
approach maneuvers and aircraft
sensor data has shown an

2135
02:08:45,510 --> 02:08:50,400
elevated risk for turbulence.
Yes, because of your approach

2136
02:08:50,400 --> 02:08:54,570
maneuvers. Flight attendants
have sustained significant

2137
02:08:54,570 --> 02:08:57,210
injuries in the final approach
phase of phase of the flight.

2138
02:08:57,810 --> 02:09:02,550
Sure, but none of this is
necessary none of it and what

2139
02:09:02,550 --> 02:09:09,180
are you really saving? I mean
seriously. But you need to be as

2140
02:09:09,180 --> 02:09:12,000
uncomfortable as possible
because of climate change.

2141
02:09:13,020 --> 02:09:14,550
People are going to be puking.

2142
02:09:16,050 --> 02:09:19,020
John C Dvorak: Scary a lot of
people don't like turbulent most

2143
02:09:19,020 --> 02:09:19,350
people

2144
02:09:19,350 --> 02:09:25,650
Adam Curry: don't like
turbulence. But who cares? We're

2145
02:09:25,650 --> 02:09:28,200
sorry ladies and gentlemen due
to climate change. There's some

2146
02:09:28,200 --> 02:09:33,030
turbulence up ahead remember,
pay your climate tax your carbon

2147
02:09:33,030 --> 02:09:37,200
tax Thank you. Ding ding flight
attendants please be seated.

2148
02:09:39,210 --> 02:09:47,550
That's that's it's it's so sad.
We're ruining life for a while

2149
02:09:47,550 --> 02:09:47,880
yeah,

2150
02:09:47,910 --> 02:09:52,200
John C Dvorak: well hoax. I
remember my my turbulence story.

2151
02:09:52,560 --> 02:09:52,950
Adam Curry: Oh,

2152
02:09:53,430 --> 02:09:56,190
John C Dvorak: I'm in something
I've done in the Southern

2153
02:09:56,190 --> 02:09:59,250
California region. And I'm going
through we're coming in from I

2154
02:09:59,250 --> 02:10:03,750
think from Phoenix to Ontario,
and

2155
02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:07,410
Adam Curry: Ontario, California
or Ontario, Ontario,

2156
02:10:07,410 --> 02:10:11,640
John C Dvorak: California in
Southern California. And all of

2157
02:10:11,640 --> 02:10:14,880
a sudden that plane gets jerked
all over the place of wings look

2158
02:10:14,880 --> 02:10:16,980
where they're gonna see me
they're gonna come out. It's

2159
02:10:16,980 --> 02:10:20,790
just a huge mess. It was just
unbelievable. It was the worst

2160
02:10:20,790 --> 02:10:25,380
experience I've ever had in an
airplane. And the pilot comes on

2161
02:10:25,380 --> 02:10:28,350
and says, I'm sorry that we had
pierced it. We've gone through

2162
02:10:28,350 --> 02:10:34,740
the, the wake of a b two bomber.
That'll do it. Yeah. And we were

2163
02:10:34,740 --> 02:10:37,650
we were not given a heads up or
anything. We're very sorry. And

2164
02:10:37,650 --> 02:10:41,880
so we went through. So I'm on a
plane, some other some overseas

2165
02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:45,930
flight. And I'm sitting next to
one of these sales guys who's

2166
02:10:46,110 --> 02:10:51,690
basically flying all the time.
And so we started exchanging

2167
02:10:51,690 --> 02:10:54,600
flight stories about our horror
stories. And I tell him the

2168
02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:57,720
story about going through the
wake of a b two bomber. And he

2169
02:10:57,720 --> 02:11:01,020
says, Oh, really, you think that
was bad? And then he says to me,

2170
02:11:01,140 --> 02:11:04,980
did all the overhead
compartments open up and throw

2171
02:11:04,980 --> 02:11:09,390
luggage all over the place?
knocking people in the head? I'm

2172
02:11:09,630 --> 02:11:14,880
guessing not. No, he says all
within you have not been through

2173
02:11:14,880 --> 02:11:20,010
real turbulence. So that was the
end of that story. So I haven't

2174
02:11:20,010 --> 02:11:21,750
been through real turbulence. So
I don't know what that

2175
02:11:21,960 --> 02:11:24,750
Adam Curry: didn't really have
the crescendo I was expecting. I

2176
02:11:24,750 --> 02:11:26,760
was waiting for more of a
climax. But

2177
02:11:26,820 --> 02:11:29,460
John C Dvorak: okay, I was at
the anti climax. It was an anti

2178
02:11:29,460 --> 02:11:32,700
climactic story. stat is when
you sit next to one of these

2179
02:11:32,700 --> 02:11:36,810
guys who's basically doing
nothing but flying all the time.

2180
02:11:36,930 --> 02:11:41,460
Yeah. You can't forget about
flying, you can't beat. You

2181
02:11:41,460 --> 02:11:42,030
can't beat him.

2182
02:11:43,950 --> 02:11:45,900
Adam Curry: Of course, all of
this will all these problems

2183
02:11:45,900 --> 02:11:50,940
will go away when we have
electric planes. That was a good

2184
02:11:50,940 --> 02:11:53,760
laugh. Once we have electric
planes, it'll be fine. Then we

2185
02:11:53,760 --> 02:11:57,420
can just you know, there'll be
no jet wash. It'll be you know,

2186
02:11:57,420 --> 02:12:00,390
it'd be beautiful. You'll fly
for exactly. 22 minutes.

2187
02:12:00,690 --> 02:12:02,700
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, it'd
be a lot of little stopover

2188
02:12:02,700 --> 02:12:07,530
points. So charging stations.
You fly for 20 minutes, just go

2189
02:12:07,530 --> 02:12:12,780
to lagging Station. Here for two
hours. let it recharge. Hop,

2190
02:12:12,780 --> 02:12:13,110
hop.

2191
02:12:13,470 --> 02:12:19,350
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Let's go.
We laugh but sadly, it's not.

2192
02:12:20,100 --> 02:12:27,540
It's not a laughing matter is
bad. Luck got an interesting

2193
02:12:28,830 --> 02:12:36,480
note this morning about Sam
Altman's sister. Did you know

2194
02:12:36,480 --> 02:12:40,470
that Sam Altman has a sister?
No, I don't know that. Who likes

2195
02:12:40,470 --> 02:12:42,090
to write on medium?

2196
02:12:43,740 --> 02:12:45,060
John C Dvorak: Okay, a lot of
people do.

2197
02:12:46,080 --> 02:12:47,610
Unknown: I have experience there

2198
02:12:47,610 --> 02:12:49,170
John C Dvorak: because you can't
anyway, yeah,

2199
02:12:49,200 --> 02:12:53,460
Adam Curry: her name is Annie,
Annie, Annie Altman, I have

2200
02:12:53,460 --> 02:12:58,470
experienced drama like the open
AI drama. I grew up in it. But I

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02:12:58,470 --> 02:13:02,400
was repeatedly told quote, not
to talk about it. And to allow

2202
02:13:02,400 --> 02:13:06,510
another person to remove my
human agency. I have lived under

2203
02:13:06,510 --> 02:13:11,190
my siblings authority my whole
life. The narrative of Annie is

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02:13:11,190 --> 02:13:14,310
crazy. And Annie doesn't know
how to take care of herself as

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02:13:14,310 --> 02:13:17,340
what I was raised and
conditioned in that narrative,

2206
02:13:17,340 --> 02:13:20,400
along with intentionally
conditional love, is what was

2207
02:13:20,400 --> 02:13:25,290
used to control me my whole
life. I mean, she even accuses

2208
02:13:25,290 --> 02:13:26,160
him of

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02:13:27,210 --> 02:13:33,510
John C Dvorak: incest. Oh, yes.
Yes, that's not good. Sewer?

2210
02:13:34,800 --> 02:13:37,320
Adam Curry: Well, I mean, this
whole thing is,

2211
02:13:38,460 --> 02:13:40,620
John C Dvorak: is there a link
in the show notes? We should all

2212
02:13:40,620 --> 02:13:42,000
read it? Yes,

2213
02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:44,790
Adam Curry: there is a link in
the show notes. And she she even

2214
02:13:44,790 --> 02:13:51,750
says something weird here about?
Let me see. Let me just find

2215
02:13:51,750 --> 02:13:59,130
that where it is. That was so
she began in person sex work in

2216
02:13:59,130 --> 02:14:03,630
late 2020. To be able to
financially support herself and

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02:14:03,630 --> 02:14:08,220
then later with virtual sex. And
she says somewhere in here, she

2218
02:14:08,220 --> 02:14:12,570
says, you know, Thanks, Sam. I
helped you figure out your

2219
02:14:12,570 --> 02:14:16,050
sexuality after you climbed in
bed with me. Night after night

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02:14:16,050 --> 02:14:20,310
is creepy. God yeah, this whole
thing is creepy. That's

2221
02:14:20,310 --> 02:14:21,480
John C Dvorak: not a good thing
for him.

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02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:23,940
Adam Curry: It's not a good way
to read that.

2223
02:14:24,780 --> 02:14:26,580
John C Dvorak: I'm going to
switch gears before we get to

2224
02:14:26,580 --> 02:14:31,320
the break. Because I watched the
K part and he had some woman

2225
02:14:31,320 --> 02:14:36,780
from the beacon on on the PBS.
The beacon I just want what's

2226
02:14:36,780 --> 02:14:41,010
the clips? What's the beacon? To
beacon the Free Beacon? You've

2227
02:14:41,010 --> 02:14:42,960
seen it? It's an online
newspaper.

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02:14:42,990 --> 02:14:45,810
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Okay. Yes.
Where are they located? The Free

2229
02:14:45,810 --> 02:14:46,590
Beacon in

2230
02:14:46,590 --> 02:14:48,630
John C Dvorak: Washington DC
there was the Washington Free

2231
02:14:48,630 --> 02:14:52,200
Beacon and they would put this
because nobody on Friday this

2232
02:14:52,200 --> 02:14:55,320
last Friday everyone's on
vacation. Nobody's watching it.

2233
02:14:55,320 --> 02:14:58,890
So they actually put some of
their this may be not a rant,

2234
02:14:59,520 --> 02:15:02,100
blatant liberal leftist
progressive.

2235
02:15:02,700 --> 02:15:05,220
Adam Curry: Oh was opposed.
Someone else snuck in while

2236
02:15:05,220 --> 02:15:08,190
everyone was was out. Well,
Brooke went on

2237
02:15:08,190 --> 02:15:11,730
John C Dvorak: vacation. But K
part did the show from home. And

2238
02:15:11,730 --> 02:15:14,610
I have two clips from him
because he's one of them just to

2239
02:15:14,610 --> 02:15:15,120
government. So

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02:15:15,120 --> 02:15:16,980
Adam Curry: he was just by
himself on a show that's

2241
02:15:16,980 --> 02:15:18,510
supposed to be red blue.

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02:15:19,290 --> 02:15:21,390
John C Dvorak: No, he's by
himself with a woman from the

2243
02:15:21,390 --> 02:15:24,120
Free Beacon. Oh, okay. He's by
himself at

2244
02:15:24,120 --> 02:15:27,360
Adam Curry: home, right? Okay.
On the zoom,

2245
02:15:28,260 --> 02:15:30,870
John C Dvorak: on the zoom. So
here we go. I just want to play

2246
02:15:30,870 --> 02:15:34,500
this. So we know why people love
Biden, they're going to vote for

2247
02:15:34,500 --> 02:15:36,930
Biden, and people think that
Biden is going to get kicked out

2248
02:15:36,930 --> 02:15:40,110
of office may be wrong. Let's
listen to Kate part talking

2249
02:15:40,110 --> 02:15:40,920
about Biden

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02:15:40,980 --> 02:15:44,190
Unknown: right now, when we most
needed this is the time when

2251
02:15:44,190 --> 02:15:48,120
President Biden is at his best.
He knows what he's doing. And I

2252
02:15:48,120 --> 02:15:51,960
just wish that Democrats in
general and the the American

2253
02:15:51,960 --> 02:15:55,800
public in particular, would
would give him the grace and

2254
02:15:55,800 --> 02:16:00,240
give him the room to exert
American exert American will and

2255
02:16:00,240 --> 02:16:04,470
American pressure as much as he
can on a situation that is

2256
02:16:04,500 --> 02:16:09,690
infinitely more complex than a
lot of his critics. give it

2257
02:16:09,690 --> 02:16:10,440
credit for.

2258
02:16:10,770 --> 02:16:13,020
Adam Curry: This is Israel,
Hamas that he's talking about?

2259
02:16:13,020 --> 02:16:13,650
Yeah, yeah, he's

2260
02:16:13,650 --> 02:16:15,150
John C Dvorak: talking about
that. And then by knows what

2261
02:16:15,150 --> 02:16:15,840
he's doing. He

2262
02:16:15,840 --> 02:16:16,770
Adam Curry: does. He says,

2263
02:16:16,800 --> 02:16:17,610
John C Dvorak: so shut up.

2264
02:16:17,640 --> 02:16:19,980
Adam Curry: I don't have any
proof of what I'm saying. But I

2265
02:16:19,980 --> 02:16:21,900
know what I'm doing. So

2266
02:16:21,900 --> 02:16:26,250
John C Dvorak: at the end of it,
they introduce a Thanksgiving

2267
02:16:26,250 --> 02:16:31,440
segment. And I just thought this
was too rich not to not to cut

2268
02:16:31,440 --> 02:16:31,980
and play.

2269
02:16:32,220 --> 02:16:34,680
Unknown: I have 40 seconds left.
And I will say that I am

2270
02:16:34,680 --> 02:16:38,040
grateful on this Thanksgiving
for my family and their support.

2271
02:16:38,040 --> 02:16:41,130
So each of you have 20 seconds.
Jonathan Capehart. What are you

2272
02:16:41,130 --> 02:16:41,550
grateful?

2273
02:16:41,759 --> 02:16:47,519
Nick, I'm grateful for science.
On Sunday, I tested positive for

2274
02:16:47,519 --> 02:16:52,589
COVID. So I've been at home
since since since Sunday. And

2275
02:16:52,619 --> 02:16:56,879
three years ago right now, the
nation was listening to emmalin

2276
02:16:56,879 --> 02:17:01,319
sciences sirens, hearing about
hospitals that were overflowing

2277
02:17:01,319 --> 02:17:04,709
with people who had come down
with Coronavirus, folks who were

2278
02:17:04,709 --> 02:17:08,699
intubated folks who passed away
without being able to see their

2279
02:17:08,699 --> 02:17:13,979
family and because of science, I
got a positive COVID diagnosis.

2280
02:17:16,709 --> 02:17:17,879
The sciences

2281
02:17:20,070 --> 02:17:25,080
Adam Curry: made the science be
with you. He had a positive

2282
02:17:25,080 --> 02:17:26,730
COVID test because he

2283
02:17:26,729 --> 02:17:30,029
John C Dvorak: was at home with
COVID because of the science

2284
02:17:30,030 --> 02:17:32,490
Adam Curry: did he meant as a
science. He mentioned the

2285
02:17:32,490 --> 02:17:35,970
science gave him the vaccine and
that he shouldn't have COVID Or

2286
02:17:35,970 --> 02:17:37,260
did what did he forget? He
doesn't

2287
02:17:37,260 --> 02:17:38,970
John C Dvorak: end in dedicated
detail. Come on.

2288
02:17:42,420 --> 02:17:45,990
Adam Curry: That's good. That's
good. Have you seen the this? I

2289
02:17:45,990 --> 02:17:48,630
want to play this just before
the break because it just

2290
02:17:48,630 --> 02:17:54,900
tickles me. Have you seen that
AI Indiana Anna, Indiana I'm

2291
02:17:54,900 --> 02:17:58,260
sorry, Anna, Indiana. This is
the latest in artificial

2292
02:17:58,260 --> 02:18:06,600
intelligence. And Indiana is an
AI robot babe animated thing.

2293
02:18:07,170 --> 02:18:13,230
And not only she her image, her
movements, her speech but also

2294
02:18:13,230 --> 02:18:18,000
the song is completely created
by artificial intelligence. Oh

2295
02:18:18,000 --> 02:18:18,960
yes. No,

2296
02:18:18,959 --> 02:18:20,429
John C Dvorak: I have not heard
of this. Well, you

2297
02:18:20,430 --> 02:18:23,010
Adam Curry: tell me when you
want to stop. Hello,

2298
02:18:23,010 --> 02:18:26,850
Unknown: world. My name is Anna,
Indiana, and I'm so excited to

2299
02:18:26,850 --> 02:18:30,900
share my music with you. Here's
my first song betrayed by this

2300
02:18:30,900 --> 02:18:36,420
town as an AI singer songwriter,
everything from the key tempo,

2301
02:18:36,750 --> 02:18:42,090
chord progression, melody notes,
rhythm, lyrics in my image and

2302
02:18:42,090 --> 02:18:46,470
singing is auto generated using
AI. I hope you like it.

2303
02:18:46,709 --> 02:18:48,869
Adam Curry: By the way it's a
little upbeat ditty called

2304
02:18:48,869 --> 02:18:50,339
betrayed by this town

2305
02:19:05,820 --> 02:19:11,520
Unknown: my favorite cafe
sipping my tea it's Saturday

2306
02:19:15,330 --> 02:19:23,520
live this town is full of broken
dreams shattered hopes and

2307
02:19:23,520 --> 02:19:25,350
silence greens you want more

2308
02:19:25,350 --> 02:19:26,220
Adam Curry: are you digging? It

2309
02:19:26,220 --> 02:19:27,960
John C Dvorak: ain't listening.
I want to hear a little more toe

2310
02:19:27,960 --> 02:19:30,450
Tapper is just terrible

2311
02:19:31,709 --> 02:19:34,619
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes here we
go. Here's

2312
02:19:34,620 --> 02:19:37,260
Unknown: the hook the trade by
this time

2313
02:19:41,580 --> 02:19:44,460
John C Dvorak: okay, I can stop
you establish that off keynote

2314
02:19:44,490 --> 02:19:44,970
trade

2315
02:19:44,970 --> 02:19:49,380
Adam Curry: by this town. Let's
tear it all down. This is never

2316
02:19:49,380 --> 02:19:54,330
going to work people who was
afraid of AI after hearing that.

2317
02:19:55,920 --> 02:20:00,720
These I got I got I got a
message from so you sounded like

2318
02:20:00,720 --> 02:20:05,040
a little girl wanting to take
away ar 15 You have no idea what

2319
02:20:05,040 --> 02:20:09,390
you're talking about. Don't
compare ll M's to AGI it will

2320
02:20:09,390 --> 02:20:13,380
come within 10 hours. 10 days or
10,000 years but it's coming.

2321
02:20:13,590 --> 02:20:14,760
What? Yeah,

2322
02:20:15,420 --> 02:20:17,730
John C Dvorak: that's what did
you complain about? Ar 15

2323
02:20:17,760 --> 02:20:19,830
Adam Curry: I didn't but that
was the comparison. You sound

2324
02:20:19,830 --> 02:20:24,420
like a little teenage girl
crying about AR fifteens that

2325
02:20:24,420 --> 02:20:28,950
was this is the vision about
about that I said AI sucks and

2326
02:20:28,950 --> 02:20:29,790
it's never gonna get

2327
02:20:31,380 --> 02:20:36,420
John C Dvorak: it. It has his
moments but in if it's used like

2328
02:20:36,420 --> 02:20:39,090
this song writer used it. It
sucks. Yeah,

2329
02:20:39,120 --> 02:20:43,800
Adam Curry: you cannot you
cannot replicate the human

2330
02:20:43,830 --> 02:20:47,580
talent can't be done. Yeah, you
can.

2331
02:20:48,870 --> 02:20:51,210
John C Dvorak: If you stealing
from human talent, you can Yeah,

2332
02:20:51,210 --> 02:20:55,650
and then you get this. You know,
that's a bad example. No,

2333
02:20:55,830 --> 02:20:58,320
Adam Curry: I'm saying you may
be able to steal from human

2334
02:20:58,320 --> 02:21:01,350
talent to replicate what human
talented but you can't create

2335
02:21:01,350 --> 02:21:08,670
new, new talented work. I love
my job and I love what I do. And

2336
02:21:08,670 --> 02:21:10,650
with that, I'd like to thank you
for your courage say in the

2337
02:21:10,650 --> 02:21:13,830
morning to you the man who put
the sea in the clean

2338
02:21:13,830 --> 02:21:17,370
communications ecosystem ladies
and gentlemen, say hello to my

2339
02:21:17,370 --> 02:21:19,740
friend on the other end the one
and only Mr. John

2340
02:21:24,090 --> 02:21:26,340
John C Dvorak: Imani you Mr.
Adam curry. Also in the morning

2341
02:21:26,340 --> 02:21:30,720
all ships and sea boots on the
ground feet in the air. subs in

2342
02:21:30,720 --> 02:21:32,460
the water and all the dames
knights out there in the

2343
02:21:32,460 --> 02:21:34,950
Adam Curry: morning to our
trolls been hanging out in the

2344
02:21:34,950 --> 02:21:36,510
troll room. Let's count them
shall we?

2345
02:21:41,610 --> 02:21:42,390
What do you think?

2346
02:21:43,830 --> 02:21:46,410
John C Dvorak: What do you think
Sunday going to be low? I'd say

2347
02:21:46,410 --> 02:21:48,990
2000 2078.

2348
02:21:49,830 --> 02:21:52,200
Adam Curry: More than you
thought. This is not that

2349
02:21:52,200 --> 02:21:54,090
John C Dvorak: much more than I
thought well, but it's better

2350
02:21:54,090 --> 02:21:54,780
than you thought. I'll

2351
02:21:54,780 --> 02:21:58,470
Adam Curry: take it it's two
more than 2000 Trolls listening

2352
02:21:58,470 --> 02:22:01,590
to this banter are witty banter,

2353
02:22:02,310 --> 02:22:03,510
John C Dvorak: banter, banter,

2354
02:22:03,510 --> 02:22:06,510
Adam Curry: I'll call a banter.
That's exactly what it is. Good

2355
02:22:06,510 --> 02:22:08,970
to see you here trolls they have
been pretty active actually has

2356
02:22:08,970 --> 02:22:12,720
been I only saw one or two
trolls kicked for flooding. But

2357
02:22:12,720 --> 02:22:16,290
otherwise, everyone's been
pretty nice. You know, the usual

2358
02:22:16,290 --> 02:22:20,730
stuff. But this is what it's
for. If you if so don't go on a

2359
02:22:20,730 --> 02:22:25,470
social network trolling people.
It's not worth it. You get into

2360
02:22:25,470 --> 02:22:29,460
long drawn out conversations and
then you got to check to see if

2361
02:22:29,460 --> 02:22:33,000
you got any likes or if someone
replied angry to you when you

2362
02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:37,140
get off. And then you use the
minute you finish dinner, you're

2363
02:22:37,140 --> 02:22:41,490
back on your troll alert, you're
watching and your heart rate

2364
02:22:41,490 --> 02:22:45,090
goes up. No, you're only giving
Silicon Valley more and more and

2365
02:22:45,090 --> 02:22:48,360
more attention. Don't do that.
Go to this troll room, get rid

2366
02:22:48,360 --> 02:22:52,620
of it right away. And it's gone.
And then you're gone. And people

2367
02:22:52,650 --> 02:22:55,200
like you suck and then it's then
we're on to the next step.

2368
02:22:55,590 --> 02:22:59,310
There's there's no permanent
record, it goes away. It's

2369
02:22:59,310 --> 02:23:03,450
ephemeral it goes away is
perfect that way, it's good as

2370
02:23:03,450 --> 02:23:06,660
good as good is a good thing to
do. You can do it twice a week.

2371
02:23:07,080 --> 02:23:09,840
On Thursdays and Sundays, you
can actually do it 24 hours a

2372
02:23:09,840 --> 02:23:12,870
day go to troll room.io We can
listen to the no agenda stream,

2373
02:23:13,080 --> 02:23:17,610
which is 24/7 tons of live
shows. A lot of podcasts record

2374
02:23:17,610 --> 02:23:21,630
live now, which we kind of
pioneered for everybody. Then

2375
02:23:21,960 --> 02:23:24,450
you package that up, boom, send
that out as your podcast for

2376
02:23:24,450 --> 02:23:26,580
those who missed it. It gives
you a live studio audience at

2377
02:23:26,580 --> 02:23:29,250
the same time. It gives you good
feedback, it gives you good

2378
02:23:29,250 --> 02:23:32,640
energy. And that's why we love
our trolls. Thank you for being

2379
02:23:32,640 --> 02:23:35,730
here trolls. Of course you can
also listen to the live stream

2380
02:23:35,730 --> 02:23:40,110
and be alerted when when the
stream goes live. Find a modern

2381
02:23:40,110 --> 02:23:43,500
podcast app which is not
connected to the Apple database

2382
02:23:43,500 --> 02:23:49,440
or any platforms. No it's modern
podcast apps.com which will give

2383
02:23:49,440 --> 02:23:54,270
you alerts when the show goes
live. In addition to that, if

2384
02:23:54,270 --> 02:23:58,410
you if you can't listen live
when we post the show within 90

2385
02:23:58,410 --> 02:24:02,280
seconds your app will tell you
boom it's ready for you. No

2386
02:24:02,280 --> 02:24:05,670
waiting for these legacy apps to
hook I'm gonna see if there's

2387
02:24:05,670 --> 02:24:10,020
something new over there. No.
I'll get something modern right

2388
02:24:10,020 --> 02:24:11,310
now. What are we drinking?

2389
02:24:12,930 --> 02:24:18,660
John C Dvorak: I am drinking
signature Oh brand seltzer water

2390
02:24:18,690 --> 02:24:19,470
original

2391
02:24:20,040 --> 02:24:24,030
Adam Curry: signature brand so
now is this what a signature

2392
02:24:24,030 --> 02:24:25,740
brand is that? Is that like

2393
02:24:27,540 --> 02:24:29,550
John C Dvorak: is that all those
house brands you get at grocery

2394
02:24:29,550 --> 02:24:29,850
store?

2395
02:24:29,880 --> 02:24:32,130
Adam Curry: Okay, so is
signature the name of the of the

2396
02:24:32,130 --> 02:24:33,570
chain that is Antar

2397
02:24:33,600 --> 02:24:35,970
John C Dvorak: no signatures and
one of those like loose shirt.

2398
02:24:35,970 --> 02:24:40,350
It's one of those house brand
that you find in certain grocery

2399
02:24:40,350 --> 02:24:40,770
stores.

2400
02:24:41,580 --> 02:24:45,120
Adam Curry: Okay, I'm drinking a
Waterloo

2401
02:24:46,380 --> 02:24:48,720
John C Dvorak: Waterloo so I
like Waterloo. Yeah, was

2402
02:24:48,720 --> 02:24:51,030
Adam Curry: it it has natural
flavors, which we now know is

2403
02:24:51,030 --> 02:24:52,110
basically chemicals.

2404
02:24:53,700 --> 02:24:56,520
John C Dvorak: Well wait until
if you like I'm saving for the

2405
02:24:56,520 --> 02:24:58,110
next show because they're
obviously we're not gonna have

2406
02:24:58,110 --> 02:25:03,840
time for it today. But I have a
a whole series of clips on how

2407
02:25:03,840 --> 02:25:06,300
these things are killing us. Oh,

2408
02:25:06,300 --> 02:25:08,940
Adam Curry: very so the art of
the tease, ladies and gentlemen,

2409
02:25:09,300 --> 02:25:12,300
how you're going to die on the
next no agenda. That's

2410
02:25:12,300 --> 02:25:17,070
beautiful. So that was and of
course there's no agenda

2411
02:25:17,070 --> 02:25:23,670
social.com where you can, you
can follow along with all the

2412
02:25:23,670 --> 02:25:26,820
trolls who like to troll and
like to get into arguments and

2413
02:25:26,820 --> 02:25:30,330
like to say you're wrong,
though. You're wrong. Jew hater,

2414
02:25:30,360 --> 02:25:35,700
Muslim hater. This is great,
beautiful place over there. You

2415
02:25:35,700 --> 02:25:39,150
can follow Adam at no agenda
social.com I'm not posting any

2416
02:25:39,150 --> 02:25:43,560
more. I'm just liking and
boosting. Or John Zurich, you

2417
02:25:43,560 --> 02:25:48,270
have not seen a post for me. I'm
only liking and liking and

2418
02:25:48,270 --> 02:25:51,930
there's some. There's some
douchebag is Adam curry memes?

2419
02:25:52,320 --> 02:25:56,880
This is a funny account. I've
seen this guy. No. So he's

2420
02:25:56,880 --> 02:26:00,660
taken, you know, my, my old logo
of mine. He's putting me and

2421
02:26:00,660 --> 02:26:05,670
Tina in his header. So it's a
total parody account, I guess.

2422
02:26:05,910 --> 02:26:09,420
And he's posting memes. And
they're even worse than the

2423
02:26:09,420 --> 02:26:15,060
regular memes people post is the
Adam curry memes account. Yeah,

2424
02:26:15,840 --> 02:26:18,900
I was like, yeah, maybe we'll
come up with a good one. But I

2425
02:26:18,900 --> 02:26:21,720
haven't seen it yet. He's not
bootable. He's not bootable yet.

2426
02:26:23,310 --> 02:26:28,260
Now, we are very thankful for
the producers. Because we don't

2427
02:26:28,260 --> 02:26:30,420
have listeners, we only have
producers, you should be a

2428
02:26:30,420 --> 02:26:34,380
producer in some form of the
three T's time, talent and

2429
02:26:34,380 --> 02:26:39,630
treasure. We got boots on the
ground from Iceland. That's a

2430
02:26:39,630 --> 02:26:44,340
perfect example of of talent and
time to write up the the huge

2431
02:26:44,340 --> 02:26:46,920
boots on the ground report.
There's many people who

2432
02:26:46,920 --> 02:26:52,200
contribute to the show in it
really enormous. I mean, we

2433
02:26:52,200 --> 02:26:56,250
can't even count how many people
do things to really help produce

2434
02:26:56,250 --> 02:27:00,570
and make this the best podcast
in the universe. And it's it's

2435
02:27:00,570 --> 02:27:04,530
even the guy who's the guy is
it? Is it Pate, who posts on

2436
02:27:04,530 --> 02:27:08,310
LinkedIn. Every single show he
posts on LinkedIn under the no

2437
02:27:08,310 --> 02:27:11,670
agenda account, which I guess I
guess he just registered no

2438
02:27:11,670 --> 02:27:14,910
agenda on LinkedIn. Yeah. Yeah.
And he posted his great, you

2439
02:27:14,910 --> 02:27:17,190
know, that's very helpful.
There's people who follow it

2440
02:27:17,190 --> 02:27:22,410
over there. Yeah. Yeah. So we
love stuff like this. You can

2441
02:27:22,410 --> 02:27:25,950
also make big clips, you know
that you're a lot of people like

2442
02:27:25,950 --> 02:27:30,570
Dave Ackerman doesn't make
clips. But he sends me 15 links,

2443
02:27:30,600 --> 02:27:34,860
at least daily of short little
news clips on on YouTube, then,

2444
02:27:34,860 --> 02:27:38,580
and I use very few of them,
really. But it keeps me up to

2445
02:27:38,580 --> 02:27:41,430
speed with the international
news. They're all short. And

2446
02:27:41,460 --> 02:27:44,340
that's that's a huge help. These
things really help. There's a

2447
02:27:44,340 --> 02:27:48,840
guy who sends me C span stuff of
callers who are getting weird

2448
02:27:48,840 --> 02:27:51,510
callers. When you have these
people to win your life. I'm

2449
02:27:51,510 --> 02:27:54,780
sure this is this is incredible.
This is incredibly helpful. And

2450
02:27:54,780 --> 02:27:59,370
that's what producers really do.
And never never hesitate to send

2451
02:27:59,370 --> 02:28:02,700
thing. Oh, oh, they probably
already seen it. No, no, no, you

2452
02:28:02,700 --> 02:28:04,920
don't know that. They usually
when you think that we haven't

2453
02:28:04,920 --> 02:28:09,060
seen it. So never hesitate.
john@devora.org Adam mccurry.com

2454
02:28:09,090 --> 02:28:12,930
Whoo. And of course, we love to
thank our artists who bring us

2455
02:28:12,930 --> 02:28:17,130
artwork, many pieces to choose
from, at the end of each live

2456
02:28:17,130 --> 02:28:21,480
recording, we go to no agenda
art generator.com Right after

2457
02:28:21,480 --> 02:28:25,770
we've done the credits, and we
select something from the from

2458
02:28:25,770 --> 02:28:31,440
the vast, vast uploads, which
sometimes it's 30 or 40 pieces.

2459
02:28:31,440 --> 02:28:36,120
It's really quite quite, quite
amazing. And we discussed,

2460
02:28:36,390 --> 02:28:40,020
John C Dvorak: I'm not gonna say
well continue, but please this

2461
02:28:40,020 --> 02:28:45,750
piece. I want to go back an
extra show to 1609. Okay, we had

2462
02:28:45,750 --> 02:28:50,250
the gobbling AI monster in the
winter. Yes. Well, at the bottom

2463
02:28:50,250 --> 02:28:54,210
of that that collection, you'll
find a piece by capitalist

2464
02:28:54,210 --> 02:28:58,440
agenda called Rock 1609. Well,
where is the artist looking at a

2465
02:28:58,440 --> 02:29:03,120
screen and drawing a turkey?
Yes. And I think at the time I

2466
02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:06,780
was under the impression that
when the AI generated turns out

2467
02:29:06,780 --> 02:29:12,480
it wasn't no because he posted
the actual creation of that art

2468
02:29:12,510 --> 02:29:15,750
on no no agenda social and great
rule the whole thing from

2469
02:29:15,750 --> 02:29:17,160
scratch as any showed

2470
02:29:17,160 --> 02:29:20,220
Adam Curry: how he did it in
real time. Yeah, as he had a

2471
02:29:20,220 --> 02:29:22,740
screen capture and how do you
feel about this now that you

2472
02:29:22,740 --> 02:29:27,630
accused him falsely? Well, I
didn't. You kind of did. Yeah,

2473
02:29:27,660 --> 02:29:29,010
you're gonna get shipped in
jail.

2474
02:29:29,400 --> 02:29:32,580
John C Dvorak: I probably did. I
mean, the piece we picked was

2475
02:29:32,580 --> 02:29:37,200
good. But this is a capitalist
agenda. I went back and looked

2476
02:29:37,200 --> 02:29:40,170
at his art I gave him a for the
newsletter. I use one of his

2477
02:29:40,170 --> 02:29:42,720
pieces. I'm probably use a few
more because he's done a lot of

2478
02:29:42,720 --> 02:29:45,120
stuff. In the end. He's doing
everything from scratch. It

2479
02:29:45,120 --> 02:29:49,950
looks like to me and he's one of
the really and he's good. He's

2480
02:29:49,950 --> 02:29:51,240
like really good.

2481
02:29:52,740 --> 02:29:55,350
Adam Curry: But it just didn't
hit us the way we usually liked

2482
02:29:55,350 --> 02:29:57,960
his choose something for
Thanksgiving. Yeah,

2483
02:29:57,960 --> 02:30:00,630
John C Dvorak: sometimes it's
definitely not What we're

2484
02:30:00,630 --> 02:30:05,220
looking for but I'm just saying
capitalist agenda as an as a, as

2485
02:30:05,220 --> 02:30:08,010
an artist is not just telling
the AI to crank something out

2486
02:30:08,010 --> 02:30:09,960
like in today's art we see a
bunch of it

2487
02:30:10,980 --> 02:30:13,110
Adam Curry: has been very
demoralizing for him to hoard to

2488
02:30:13,110 --> 02:30:15,480
hear that well,

2489
02:30:16,529 --> 02:30:20,609
John C Dvorak: or not. I mean,
because if you didn't do that

2490
02:30:20,609 --> 02:30:25,529
much work over just quickly, is
pretty astonishing. And it would

2491
02:30:25,559 --> 02:30:29,399
be you know, as long as I think
we're relying on a compliment to

2492
02:30:29,399 --> 02:30:30,479
say it looks like it was

2493
02:30:30,780 --> 02:30:33,930
Adam Curry: yeah, the guy's the
guy is clearly illustrative

2494
02:30:33,930 --> 02:30:37,170
Jean, you know, he is a is top
notch mastermind. Yes,

2495
02:30:37,230 --> 02:30:38,010
mastermind.

2496
02:30:39,210 --> 02:30:41,460
John C Dvorak: So I want to
apologize to a capitalist

2497
02:30:41,460 --> 02:30:42,300
agenda. Oh,

2498
02:30:42,300 --> 02:30:46,410
Adam Curry: there you go. Well,
we apologize, the capitalist

2499
02:30:46,410 --> 02:30:52,860
agenda, and we simultaneously
thank Francisco Scaramanga who

2500
02:30:52,860 --> 02:30:56,460
brought us the artwork for
episode 610. That was our

2501
02:30:56,460 --> 02:31:01,830
Thanksgiving Day episode. Titled
P doom. Thank you, Sam. Altman.

2502
02:31:01,860 --> 02:31:07,680
No thank you. Twitch CEO douche
techno douche. This was by far

2503
02:31:07,680 --> 02:31:10,080
our favorite Thanksgiving creepy
image.

2504
02:31:10,740 --> 02:31:14,610
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was. I'm
guessing this was AI. It doesn't

2505
02:31:14,610 --> 02:31:18,270
matter. It doesn't matter. Yes.
It's great. He has a very the

2506
02:31:18,270 --> 02:31:22,260
subtlety of the creepiness,
especially the little girl

2507
02:31:22,260 --> 02:31:24,780
holding that dead, huge knife.

2508
02:31:24,870 --> 02:31:26,940
Adam Curry: And then the kid
with breast man on his

2509
02:31:28,290 --> 02:31:33,180
John C Dvorak: breast ban on his
chest apron. It was it was hard

2510
02:31:33,180 --> 02:31:33,840
to beat.

2511
02:31:35,430 --> 02:31:39,540
Adam Curry: It looks very, very
disturbed. The turkey is alive

2512
02:31:39,540 --> 02:31:40,410
and not happy.

2513
02:31:41,310 --> 02:31:44,910
John C Dvorak: So that would
that piece was that's, to me is

2514
02:31:44,910 --> 02:31:49,590
a classic kind of image that we
get a kick out of. It was there

2515
02:31:49,590 --> 02:31:51,780
was good. There's a lot of other
good pieces. There's no doubt we

2516
02:31:51,780 --> 02:31:55,740
could have picked any of maybe
five to 10 pieces. Or some of

2517
02:31:55,740 --> 02:31:59,340
the ones that are really super
AI looking like pickles

2518
02:31:59,340 --> 02:32:07,110
surprises. Up above that me
Let's eat grandma. Or let's eat

2519
02:32:07,110 --> 02:32:09,540
grandma. Or let's eat grandma.

2520
02:32:09,570 --> 02:32:12,570
Adam Curry: I mean, the the
Clippy stuff was good, but you

2521
02:32:12,570 --> 02:32:17,430
should know that. This
Thanksgiving we're going to do

2522
02:32:17,430 --> 02:32:19,440
we're going to pick a turkey
thing we're going to pick a

2523
02:32:19,440 --> 02:32:21,330
turkey image of Thanksgiving is

2524
02:32:21,960 --> 02:32:25,440
John C Dvorak: that is that a
turkey comic strip blogger

2525
02:32:25,440 --> 02:32:29,820
managed to get a turkey to hug
Clippy. Yeah, that was it was

2526
02:32:29,820 --> 02:32:30,660
cute mollify. It

2527
02:32:30,660 --> 02:32:31,920
Adam Curry: was cute. Yeah, it
was cute.

2528
02:32:32,040 --> 02:32:37,380
John C Dvorak: But it wasn't
like you know did little girl a

2529
02:32:37,380 --> 02:32:39,360
little boy wins. Yeah, it

2530
02:32:39,360 --> 02:32:42,420
Adam Curry: was just the
creepiest of all creepy. We

2531
02:32:42,420 --> 02:32:45,180
didn't talk about it kinda like
the the roach giving. That was a

2532
02:32:45,180 --> 02:32:48,630
good AI image. The family
sitting around a roach.

2533
02:32:49,830 --> 02:32:52,440
John C Dvorak: Was that on the
low? That one? Oh, my God is

2534
02:32:52,470 --> 02:32:53,940
disgusting. See, I

2535
02:32:53,940 --> 02:32:56,760
Adam Curry: don't have to bring
that up. Hey, Bobby, bugs giving

2536
02:32:56,790 --> 02:33:01,590
by the way y'all can stop with
the Ukraine, Israel flags and

2537
02:33:01,590 --> 02:33:04,410
all that stuff. We're not gonna
use it and we're not using them.

2538
02:33:05,760 --> 02:33:13,020
Was there anything else? No, no,
there was just there was other

2539
02:33:13,020 --> 02:33:14,910
good stuff. But now let's

2540
02:33:14,910 --> 02:33:17,460
John C Dvorak: add capitalist
agendas. Turkey parade was good.

2541
02:33:17,610 --> 02:33:19,020
By the way. Taunton?

2542
02:33:19,020 --> 02:33:23,370
Adam Curry: Neil. That's a very
accurate prediction or depiction

2543
02:33:23,400 --> 02:33:28,920
of the spec cook that I know
she's Dutch, right. That's the

2544
02:33:28,950 --> 02:33:32,130
the 1000 layers. It turns out,
it's about 30 layers, because I

2545
02:33:32,130 --> 02:33:35,400
did take it to the Thanksgiving
dinner and said that I believe

2546
02:33:35,400 --> 02:33:37,800
John C Dvorak: your bogus story.
The other cake actually

2547
02:33:37,800 --> 02:33:42,810
Adam Curry: came back. You came
back? Well, it wasn't eaten

2548
02:33:42,810 --> 02:33:47,910
entirely. And the the
international arms dealers wife

2549
02:33:48,240 --> 02:33:52,890
dropped off the rest of the cake
yesterday. Here's the rest of

2550
02:33:52,890 --> 02:33:54,960
your cake. It didn't all get
eaten. I'm sure you want. It

2551
02:33:54,990 --> 02:33:55,410
wasn't

2552
02:33:55,410 --> 02:33:57,150
John C Dvorak: any good. There
was good. It was

2553
02:33:57,150 --> 02:33:59,670
Adam Curry: no, it was good. But
there was a lot of other

2554
02:33:59,670 --> 02:34:00,480
desserts too.

2555
02:34:01,830 --> 02:34:04,110
John C Dvorak: You are competing
into dessert category. I

2556
02:34:04,110 --> 02:34:05,970
Adam Curry: didn't realize I was
competing in the dessert

2557
02:34:05,970 --> 02:34:10,740
category. And there were some
very, very, very tasty stuff.

2558
02:34:11,820 --> 02:34:16,050
But I think it was probably
stovetop stuffing. I have a nose

2559
02:34:16,050 --> 02:34:22,560
for these things. Yeah, pond
office homemade. Anyway, we

2560
02:34:22,560 --> 02:34:26,820
thank San Francisco Scaramanga
very much for his artwork, and

2561
02:34:26,820 --> 02:34:30,900
of course, all of the artists
who clearly they're all putting

2562
02:34:30,900 --> 02:34:33,930
in work one way or the other.
And we appreciate it's great. I

2563
02:34:33,930 --> 02:34:36,690
mean, what a luxury to be able
to choose from, I mean, how many

2564
02:34:36,690 --> 02:34:39,690
do we have today? Looks like we
got another 20 to select from

2565
02:34:39,690 --> 02:34:43,530
today. It's that that is a
luxurious position to be in

2566
02:34:43,530 --> 02:34:46,260
Thank you. Makes a big
difference to the show. It gets

2567
02:34:46,260 --> 02:34:50,040
people hyped up interested,
reminds them to listen, it

2568
02:34:50,040 --> 02:34:53,610
brings in new people. It's just
overall a wonderful service you

2569
02:34:53,610 --> 02:34:56,280
provide. Now we'd like to thank
the people who brought the

2570
02:34:56,280 --> 02:34:59,610
treasure to the show. Our
executive and Associate

2571
02:34:59,610 --> 02:35:03,240
Executive producers are upfront.
Anything above 300 as an

2572
02:35:03,240 --> 02:35:05,940
executive producer, anything
from between 203 100 is

2573
02:35:05,940 --> 02:35:08,670
Associate Executive Producer.
These are real credits. You can

2574
02:35:08,670 --> 02:35:13,950
put them on your LinkedIn put
them in your, in your, your CV

2575
02:35:13,950 --> 02:35:18,240
in your resume. You can also go
to imdb.com that's where all the

2576
02:35:18,240 --> 02:35:21,000
pros who have these Executive
Associate Executive producer

2577
02:35:21,000 --> 02:35:24,480
credits where they post them and
put their little their little

2578
02:35:24,510 --> 02:35:27,450
you know, little BIOS you can
open one with that is completely

2579
02:35:27,450 --> 02:35:30,300
official if you look for no
agenda and imdb.com You'll see

2580
02:35:30,300 --> 02:35:34,050
hundreds and hundreds of
producers who have done exactly

2581
02:35:34,050 --> 02:35:38,190
the same thing and a big thank
you to Mark Rockall I think it

2582
02:35:38,190 --> 02:35:44,940
is Rachel Rock Hall Ric H al
from monument Colorado with a

2583
02:35:44,940 --> 02:35:49,800
long row of threes 3333 and 33
census thank you for the

2584
02:35:49,800 --> 02:35:54,450
continued value you guys provide
if I could get a d do shake

2585
02:35:55,980 --> 02:35:57,810
Unknown: you spend deed deuced

2586
02:35:59,550 --> 02:36:02,910
Adam Curry: and with that he
wants an I got ants jingle which

2587
02:36:02,910 --> 02:36:06,270
is of course not really a jingle
but we play the beginning of it

2588
02:36:06,630 --> 02:36:11,520
and house renting and jobs karma
I would like to my title to be

2589
02:36:11,850 --> 02:36:17,490
Sir Not sure for the round table
white Russians for me keep up

2590
02:36:17,490 --> 02:36:20,190
all the great work well thank
you very much you got it and

2591
02:36:20,190 --> 02:36:23,730
that will include a PhD of
course that you came in on time

2592
02:36:25,440 --> 02:36:31,950
Unknown: I got a chance to get
hands

2593
02:36:35,700 --> 02:36:43,500
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs That's
karma

2594
02:36:45,540 --> 02:36:49,050
John C Dvorak: night before I
read this semi sad note from Sir

2595
02:36:49,050 --> 02:36:52,770
John Arnold the fire bottles. I
want to mention an interesting

2596
02:36:52,800 --> 02:36:57,990
situation that occurred which is
a donor who wanted a Ph. D as a

2597
02:36:57,990 --> 02:37:04,110
gift I think it for her son or
somebody and but once to give it

2598
02:37:04,110 --> 02:37:10,890
to him on Christmas. Oh, as a
surprise to were holding back

2599
02:37:10,890 --> 02:37:15,240
the mention of the donation. And
putting it aside Jay says she'll

2600
02:37:15,270 --> 02:37:16,890
be able to do this, which is

2601
02:37:17,430 --> 02:37:21,960
Adam Curry: just classic no
agenda risk is

2602
02:37:21,990 --> 02:37:25,350
John C Dvorak: with us but not
necessarily with her. So she's

2603
02:37:25,350 --> 02:37:28,260
gonna put it aside and it'll get
mentioned on the Christmas show

2604
02:37:28,260 --> 02:37:32,130
but it will be a PhD that will
go out sent to her that she can

2605
02:37:32,130 --> 02:37:35,430
package up and give as a gift
for Christmas. If anybody wants

2606
02:37:35,430 --> 02:37:37,860
to do that you have to Allah
Wednesday.

2607
02:37:38,250 --> 02:37:41,460
Adam Curry: Yes, that will be
the 330/3 day of the year the

2608
02:37:41,490 --> 02:37:46,830
the PhDs end school is no longer
in session. But

2609
02:37:46,830 --> 02:37:48,840
John C Dvorak: I thought that
was a cute idea. But we had

2610
02:37:48,840 --> 02:37:50,160
Derek Jeter off this list,

2611
02:37:50,400 --> 02:37:53,280
Adam Curry: and then we can't
we're not going to do this for

2612
02:37:53,850 --> 02:37:56,340
knighthoods and other things.
This is a special special

2613
02:37:56,340 --> 02:37:58,890
special special, right? Yes,

2614
02:37:58,890 --> 02:38:01,650
John C Dvorak: please. We don't
want to start doing this

2615
02:38:01,650 --> 02:38:07,290
routinely. Just but for this
Christmas, we'll do it for the

2616
02:38:07,290 --> 02:38:15,900
PhDs only. Yes. So now we have
Sir Donald 13333, Spokane and on

2617
02:38:15,900 --> 02:38:20,880
United Federation of Planets.
letterhead, yes, I enclosed the

2618
02:38:20,880 --> 02:38:26,250
133333 for a switcheroo times to
first $1,000 From my posthumous

2619
02:38:26,250 --> 02:38:30,060
Daming of my wife, Paula, who
passed away in October and we

2620
02:38:30,060 --> 02:38:34,020
didn't know this and now we
didn't. Well, he's pleased name

2621
02:38:34,020 --> 02:38:38,580
her name Paula rescuer of
secondhand kitties. In honor of

2622
02:38:38,580 --> 02:38:42,090
the many times we took in the
pet cats of friends who had

2623
02:38:42,090 --> 02:38:48,690
passed away. Second, a donation
of three three, in the name of

2624
02:38:48,690 --> 02:38:52,560
Kristin. To desko Please de
douche.

2625
02:38:54,120 --> 02:38:56,820
Unknown: You've been de deuced
at

2626
02:38:56,820 --> 02:38:59,010
John C Dvorak: the family
gathering after my wife's

2627
02:38:59,010 --> 02:39:04,800
burial. I discovered that our
niece Kristen is an avid

2628
02:39:04,800 --> 02:39:09,390
listener to no agenda. How about
that? But it's not yet donated

2629
02:39:09,390 --> 02:39:16,170
to the show. I cannot allow this
situation to continue. Sure, Sir

2630
02:39:16,170 --> 02:39:18,180
Donald of the fire models

2631
02:39:18,240 --> 02:39:20,010
Adam Curry: Yeah, Donald. Yes.
And can can

2632
02:39:21,240 --> 02:39:23,190
John C Dvorak: condolences
condolences for sure of

2633
02:39:23,190 --> 02:39:26,280
Adam Curry: course and I'll just
say she's graduated brother.

2634
02:39:26,280 --> 02:39:30,180
She's graduated to heaven.
Especially if she's a rescuer of

2635
02:39:30,180 --> 02:39:38,100
secondhand kiddies sir Mike is
in Glen Osmond South Australia

2636
02:39:38,130 --> 02:39:43,980
In Australia 1013 ITM John and
Adam, how can I pass up an

2637
02:39:43,980 --> 02:39:47,760
opportunity to add a PhD in
media deconstruction to my BS in

2638
02:39:47,790 --> 02:39:51,600
own ology? Is that I pronounce
it oh Knology what is oh Knology

2639
02:39:52,230 --> 02:39:54,690
John C Dvorak: I have no idea
what Oh, Knology is not this

2640
02:39:54,690 --> 02:39:57,000
gotta be something good. Well,
in ology

2641
02:39:57,030 --> 02:40:00,720
Adam Curry: you say and ology
what is in line making? It Whoa,

2642
02:40:01,110 --> 02:40:03,870
you should be talking to him.
Really probably. We're

2643
02:40:03,870 --> 02:40:05,850
John C Dvorak: gonna one of the
big boys in Australia. They get

2644
02:40:05,850 --> 02:40:08,850
to southern Australia. You got
tons of Cabernet manufacturing.

2645
02:40:08,880 --> 02:40:09,450
Yes.

2646
02:40:09,960 --> 02:40:15,780
Adam Curry: It's all called
Skippy. Not only that, but my

2647
02:40:15,780 --> 02:40:19,530
one on one three donation is a
show club donation in dollar

2648
02:40:19,530 --> 02:40:26,520
redos. Ah, it's 1611 in
Australian Dollar redos. Okay,

2649
02:40:27,150 --> 02:40:30,240
man, he's taken license with
that mom. I'm gonna I'm not

2650
02:40:30,240 --> 02:40:33,000
gonna argue I'm gonna give it to
him. Come on. He said he's a he

2651
02:40:33,000 --> 02:40:38,820
has a BS and ology. He's a wine
guy. This donation makes me a

2652
02:40:38,820 --> 02:40:41,430
baron. And as such if it
pleases, pleases the peerage

2653
02:40:41,430 --> 02:40:41,880
committee.

2654
02:40:42,330 --> 02:40:45,480
John C Dvorak: So you know, I
think what he gave donated 1611

2655
02:40:45,510 --> 02:40:48,870
Yes, he donated 1611 Correct.
Yeah, to get to 1000.

2656
02:40:49,350 --> 02:40:54,480
Adam Curry: We love that. Yeah.
Great. So that also counts for a

2657
02:40:54,480 --> 02:40:58,500
show number donation? Oh, yes,
absolutely. Which is a separate

2658
02:40:58,500 --> 02:41:01,860
credit. This donation makes me a
baron and as such if it pleases

2659
02:41:01,860 --> 02:41:03,990
the peerage committee I request
to change from Sir Mike

2660
02:41:03,990 --> 02:41:07,860
Blacknight. To surplus keeper of
the Federal Reserve.

2661
02:41:08,430 --> 02:41:10,290
John C Dvorak: How about us
surplus? Get it?

2662
02:41:10,350 --> 02:41:12,780
Adam Curry: I got it. Thanks for
your continued efforts at

2663
02:41:12,780 --> 02:41:17,490
amygdala diminished diminution
dim, dim diminution helped me

2664
02:41:17,490 --> 02:41:21,540
jump, diminutions diminution.
diminution love and let's thank

2665
02:41:21,540 --> 02:41:24,210
you for your courage sir Mike
Blacknight. Baron to be you got

2666
02:41:24,210 --> 02:41:24,330
it.

2667
02:41:26,580 --> 02:41:28,560
John C Dvorak: So then we have
Dred Scott who comes in with one

2668
02:41:29,640 --> 02:41:32,010
donation. I'm hoping to get
hands on someone with that sweet

2669
02:41:32,010 --> 02:41:36,120
PhD action. I work at a company
with many people who have PhDs

2670
02:41:36,120 --> 02:41:39,660
after their name. I'm wondering
if I get accused of Stolen Valor

2671
02:41:39,660 --> 02:41:42,690
if I start putting PhD after my
name and my email, you know,

2672
02:41:42,690 --> 02:41:46,950
anyone can just do that. Yeah,
that's not stolen. States there

2673
02:41:46,950 --> 02:41:49,890
are certain you have to look at
your state laws. No,

2674
02:41:49,890 --> 02:41:52,740
Adam Curry: I love how you had
looked that up. By look that up.

2675
02:41:53,160 --> 02:41:58,380
You cannot do that. If it's an
educational institution. Which

2676
02:41:58,380 --> 02:42:02,490
we're not I'm sorry. In certain
states, you can't do that. But

2677
02:42:02,520 --> 02:42:06,270
it only counts if you're doing
it from an educator from a bogus

2678
02:42:06,270 --> 02:42:09,030
educational institution. We're
not an educational institution.

2679
02:42:09,810 --> 02:42:09,930
This

2680
02:42:09,930 --> 02:42:10,740
John C Dvorak: podcast no

2681
02:42:10,740 --> 02:42:12,000
Adam Curry: we're not bogus.

2682
02:42:12,300 --> 02:42:19,080
John C Dvorak: Oh no, We're real
sorry. Anyway, we're pros. Pros

2683
02:42:19,110 --> 02:42:21,300
so yeah, you have to look it up
and see what you can do it but

2684
02:42:22,500 --> 02:42:26,520
yeah, if you're not yes did
change it's varies from state to

2685
02:42:26,850 --> 02:42:31,320
state laws that govern use of
the PhD as doctor you know, when

2686
02:42:31,320 --> 02:42:35,250
you're in Brazil I get it used
to be a famous in Brazil. And

2687
02:42:35,250 --> 02:42:37,170
I'd give a lot of speeches down
there and they'd always

2688
02:42:37,200 --> 02:42:43,320
introduced this public the
keynote speaker as duck door was

2689
02:42:43,320 --> 02:42:46,230
found that interesting. Thanks
for all you guys do keep up the

2690
02:42:46,230 --> 02:42:49,350
amazing deconstruction in the
best podcast in the universe.

2691
02:42:50,100 --> 02:42:52,620
Dred Scott are stupid in
Southern California. megaregion

2692
02:42:52,620 --> 02:42:54,570
No jingles? No karma. We'll
accept that.

2693
02:42:54,630 --> 02:42:57,120
Adam Curry: And also, thank you,
Dred Scott. He is the guy who

2694
02:42:57,120 --> 02:43:01,320
does all of the chapter work for
every single no agenda episode,

2695
02:43:01,530 --> 02:43:05,490
which you can see in in the
chapters in any modern podcast

2696
02:43:05,490 --> 02:43:05,670
app

2697
02:43:05,700 --> 02:43:08,190
John C Dvorak: jabber Scott's
The guy who bought my Frisbee.

2698
02:43:08,730 --> 02:43:09,810
He's often

2699
02:43:09,810 --> 02:43:14,910
Adam Curry: known as the Bruce
Wayne of podcasting. 2.0 He is a

2700
02:43:14,910 --> 02:43:21,450
very, very mysterious character.
And we'd love him as such. Sir

2701
02:43:21,450 --> 02:43:27,210
rolly of Crystal Palace is in
Washington DC 1000 ITM John and

2702
02:43:27,210 --> 02:43:30,510
Adam thought I'd take the
opportunity to earn my PhD so I

2703
02:43:30,510 --> 02:43:33,720
can finally fit in with all my
wife's friends and colleagues.

2704
02:43:34,020 --> 02:43:38,160
Not it's not easy hitting
elitist in the mouth here in DC.

2705
02:43:38,160 --> 02:43:40,680
Well, you nailed it. Keep up the
good work. You're helping

2706
02:43:40,680 --> 02:43:43,980
preserve my sanity just to go
calmer for my anchor baby and

2707
02:43:43,980 --> 02:43:50,640
smokin hot wife please. You've
got karma

2708
02:43:53,310 --> 02:43:56,820
John C Dvorak: larice Brom Parts
Unknown. Hi, John. Adam and

2709
02:43:56,820 --> 02:44:01,590
John. I've been a listener since
episode one. I'm sorry to hear

2710
02:44:01,590 --> 02:44:06,210
that. Actually, since the daily
source code. There you go. Wow.

2711
02:44:06,450 --> 02:44:12,180
And now my contributions have
been until now my contributions

2712
02:44:12,180 --> 02:44:16,170
have been tied by hitting people
in the mouth but I can't deny

2713
02:44:16,170 --> 02:44:19,470
being Oh, I know Maria. Of
course. I know who he is. And so

2714
02:44:19,470 --> 02:44:21,240
I can't refuse such an offer.

2715
02:44:23,460 --> 02:44:25,050
Adam Curry: Maurice Yeah.
Maoris?

2716
02:44:26,940 --> 02:44:30,930
John C Dvorak: Maoris you go you
have kept me sane during

2717
02:44:30,930 --> 02:44:35,610
difficult times in general, and
in my business, seeing different

2718
02:44:35,610 --> 02:44:39,060
perspectives and information
from the by the way, we have to

2719
02:44:39,060 --> 02:44:40,230
ship this to Holland.

2720
02:44:41,130 --> 02:44:43,380
Adam Curry: Yes, you are
shipping it to Holland.

2721
02:44:44,700 --> 02:44:47,760
John C Dvorak: To really okay,
well, you got to track it

2722
02:44:47,760 --> 02:44:51,300
because the these overseas
shipments of anything get lost

2723
02:44:51,330 --> 02:44:57,630
or stolen plus so many rings are
stolen. I'm not only working 33

2724
02:44:57,630 --> 02:45:00,600
years in the media, but finally
I can call myself out Doctor in

2725
02:45:00,600 --> 02:45:03,450
media deconstruction keep on
working that system from within

2726
02:45:03,450 --> 02:45:07,290
but now with the PhD from my
night name I like to be known as

2727
02:45:07,290 --> 02:45:10,800
sir M Night of the media
landscape if that's okay with

2728
02:45:10,800 --> 02:45:14,250
the peerage committee that is,
thank you guys for all that you

2729
02:45:14,250 --> 02:45:17,760
do and please give a karma to
all who need it.

2730
02:45:19,980 --> 02:45:27,510
Adam Curry: You've got karma and
up next from Australia JD the

2731
02:45:27,510 --> 02:45:32,790
former spook with 1000 Oh man,
Tina's cooking something good. I

2732
02:45:32,790 --> 02:45:36,210
will try to keep it short. You
didn't first time donor longtime

2733
02:45:36,210 --> 02:45:40,740
but to say the least first time
donor longtime boner. Like a

2734
02:45:40,740 --> 02:45:43,920
common parasite. I've been
suckling and freeloading from

2735
02:45:43,920 --> 02:45:46,470
the host since the early
hundreds most likely the two

2736
02:45:46,470 --> 02:45:49,470
hundreds. The two of you have
been with me for a very long

2737
02:45:49,470 --> 02:45:53,580
time and heavily influenced my
way of thinking I wanted to chip

2738
02:45:53,580 --> 02:45:56,850
in and make amends for my
protracted period of

2739
02:45:56,850 --> 02:45:59,760
douchebaggery and also take
advantage of the Ph. D program.

2740
02:45:59,910 --> 02:46:04,800
Please accept my humble offering
of $1,000 USD which equals 1500.

2741
02:46:04,830 --> 02:46:08,940
Australian Dollar reduce. Could
you kindly recognize the dollar

2742
02:46:08,940 --> 02:46:12,930
for dollar 1500 So I'll be
considered as a halfway along my

2743
02:46:12,930 --> 02:46:16,950
journey from knighthood towards
Baron Baronet hood. Well, yeah,

2744
02:46:16,980 --> 02:46:20,010
I guess we do no problem. Yes,
we do. Here Oh, check this out.

2745
02:46:20,010 --> 02:46:23,850
I'm an ex law enforcement
officer and four letter agency

2746
02:46:24,060 --> 02:46:26,940
operative of 15 years the
Australian equivalent of your

2747
02:46:26,940 --> 02:46:31,830
American three letter agencies
boo. And I did not accept this

2748
02:46:31,920 --> 02:46:36,150
spool spook. I did not accept
the vaccine into my life and

2749
02:46:36,150 --> 02:46:38,430
subsequently found myself
looking for alternate

2750
02:46:38,430 --> 02:46:42,780
employment. Really, they kick
spooks out. That's

2751
02:46:42,780 --> 02:46:46,080
John C Dvorak: terrible dumb.
Because it's totally

2752
02:46:46,110 --> 02:46:50,310
Adam Curry: you got to
information man. Even armed with

2753
02:46:50,310 --> 02:46:53,490
documented medical and religious
exemptions, and with competent

2754
02:46:53,490 --> 02:46:56,310
legal repose representation, I
was unable to swim against the

2755
02:46:56,310 --> 02:47:00,000
raging current, which was the
madness of the COVID mandates.

2756
02:47:00,330 --> 02:47:03,300
With God preparing a path for me
I was able to secure work and

2757
02:47:03,300 --> 02:47:09,000
now find myself in a corporate
role. Congratulations. which I

2758
02:47:09,000 --> 02:47:13,290
consider to be just as
satisfying at times. If either

2759
02:47:13,290 --> 02:47:16,500
of you finally make the trip to
Australia come to Queensland and

2760
02:47:16,500 --> 02:47:19,260
we will gladly host entertain
and guide you around at the very

2761
02:47:19,260 --> 02:47:23,070
least we will throw an NA party
to remember that goes for any

2762
02:47:23,070 --> 02:47:26,490
other traveling no agenda
producer. Sidenote, is there no

2763
02:47:26,490 --> 02:47:29,730
agenda message board for weary
na travelers who need connection

2764
02:47:29,730 --> 02:47:35,250
as they travel? Yes, no agenda
social.com or you can always

2765
02:47:35,250 --> 02:47:39,540
organize meetups please note me
surviving the Communist

2766
02:47:39,540 --> 02:47:42,900
takeover. Great. No JD the
former spook Thank you.

2767
02:47:43,860 --> 02:47:46,290
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was
good. Jamie Richard Renard.

2768
02:47:46,290 --> 02:47:51,300
Jamie Renard is up next. They
came in with $1,000 Switcheroo

2769
02:47:51,300 --> 02:47:57,360
donation for my husband David.
Oh, Jamie is the is the wife if

2770
02:47:57,360 --> 02:48:02,520
anyone I know deserves a PhD in
media deconstruction kiss him

2771
02:48:03,720 --> 02:48:04,860
please d do shim

2772
02:48:06,540 --> 02:48:08,400
Unknown: you've been de deuced

2773
02:48:09,900 --> 02:48:14,490
John C Dvorak: and night him
sir. Come stance, protector of

2774
02:48:14,490 --> 02:48:18,270
the sharp clawed creatures.
Thank you Jamie. As

2775
02:48:18,270 --> 02:48:21,660
Adam Curry: a wife Hey, go
Robert Shepard, where the 1000

2776
02:48:21,660 --> 02:48:24,570
love the show. No jingles no
karma. Thank you for all you do

2777
02:48:24,570 --> 02:48:27,270
love and light right back at
you, Robert. Thank you.

2778
02:48:27,840 --> 02:48:32,130
John C Dvorak: Did Donald Barth
Hello Barth. Hello 1000

2779
02:48:32,580 --> 02:48:36,990
traditional spelling of
privileges please. Donald

2780
02:48:36,990 --> 02:48:40,620
Barstow on this certificate? You
have to go to no agenda

2781
02:48:40,620 --> 02:48:43,230
rings.com and fill out the form
because we need the address and

2782
02:48:43,230 --> 02:48:46,980
all the rest of it to where to
ship it and what name you want.

2783
02:48:47,010 --> 02:48:52,350
No jingles, no karma over 1200
hours and show slash class which

2784
02:48:52,350 --> 02:48:56,730
is the media deconstruction
class that we give. Yes, every

2785
02:48:56,880 --> 02:48:59,730
every day and still loving it.

2786
02:49:00,390 --> 02:49:03,870
Adam Curry: Thank you, sir Jim
Turner. With the grand ITM

2787
02:49:03,870 --> 02:49:06,240
gentlemen, I have added fat a
few people through the years

2788
02:49:06,240 --> 02:49:09,390
suggests I should go back to
school for a PhD. I've always

2789
02:49:09,390 --> 02:49:14,070
laughed. But after nearly after
nearly 400 episodes with the

2790
02:49:14,070 --> 02:49:17,010
best podcast in the universe, I
think I'm ready with my

2791
02:49:17,010 --> 02:49:20,580
preferred field of study media
deconstruction this donation

2792
02:49:20,580 --> 02:49:23,970
actually gets me to bare net
status. I achieved night status

2793
02:49:23,970 --> 02:49:27,210
for my episode 1499 executive
producer donation but I

2794
02:49:27,210 --> 02:49:31,410
erroneously sent my donation
note and hasn't hence wasn't

2795
02:49:31,410 --> 02:49:34,740
called forward to the roundtable
regardless, I request to be

2796
02:49:34,740 --> 02:49:37,740
knighted Sir James of the Derby
City would like Eagle rare

2797
02:49:37,740 --> 02:49:43,680
bourbon and well done tater tots
at the roundtable tater tots

2798
02:49:44,250 --> 02:49:49,440
with Eagle rare bourbon hmm okay
weird combo but you go

2799
02:49:50,520 --> 02:49:52,440
John C Dvorak: he was obviously
watches the voice

2800
02:49:53,820 --> 02:49:56,130
Adam Curry: I'm about to
separate from the military. I

2801
02:49:56,130 --> 02:49:58,950
will forego any jingles and
sampling simply requested jobs

2802
02:49:58,950 --> 02:50:04,020
karma you get that Also I have
taken John semiweekly advice and

2803
02:50:04,020 --> 02:50:07,380
reached out to Linda Lou Potkin.
We had a very pleasant

2804
02:50:07,380 --> 02:50:10,890
conversation and determined we
were both Ron ammos. Following

2805
02:50:10,890 --> 02:50:13,860
Adam's first Joe Rogan
experience appearance, I was

2806
02:50:13,860 --> 02:50:16,050
very impressed with their
presentation, the personal

2807
02:50:16,050 --> 02:50:19,290
attention, and the product
launch he offers at this point,

2808
02:50:19,470 --> 02:50:23,490
I'm just wow, this is good. At
this point, I'm just questioning

2809
02:50:23,490 --> 02:50:26,010
whether I'm actually executive
material, I'm dubious.

2810
02:50:26,010 --> 02:50:28,680
Nevertheless, I was very
impressed by what she had to

2811
02:50:28,680 --> 02:50:34,560
offer at image makers inc.com.
For all your executive resume

2812
02:50:34,560 --> 02:50:39,510
needs, I don't know if it's a
shill. I'll take that kind of

2813
02:50:39,510 --> 02:50:40,410
show in any old

2814
02:50:40,410 --> 02:50:45,960
Unknown: day. Jobs, jobs, jobs
and jobs, or jobs.

2815
02:50:49,320 --> 02:50:52,710
John C Dvorak: Any warmers next
and he's in burkburnett, Texas,

2816
02:50:53,280 --> 02:50:58,680
and he comes with $1,000 or less
to PhD. I'm ashamed to have only

2817
02:50:58,680 --> 02:51:03,390
taken value from me and the
other produce from you and the

2818
02:51:03,390 --> 02:51:06,660
other producers to this point.
Your work and this community are

2819
02:51:06,660 --> 02:51:12,270
truly blessings not a joke. Andy
Wallman Berg work Burnet Texas.

2820
02:51:12,900 --> 02:51:13,260
Then

2821
02:51:13,260 --> 02:51:16,830
Adam Curry: we have Baron at
Nico of the hills part some

2822
02:51:16,830 --> 02:51:20,790
known switcheroo for Sir
EagleEye Happy Birthday brother.

2823
02:51:21,180 --> 02:51:23,520
I appreciate you and
congratulations on another trip

2824
02:51:23,520 --> 02:51:28,350
around the sun. I am still king
of the tire. Baron at Nico of

2825
02:51:28,350 --> 02:51:28,950
the hills.

2826
02:51:30,570 --> 02:51:36,750
John C Dvorak: Sir deli out in
Beaverton, Oregon 333 It's been

2827
02:51:36,750 --> 02:51:40,350
too long for sure deli at a D
douching. Please.

2828
02:51:42,030 --> 02:51:43,860
Unknown: You've been D deuced.

2829
02:51:44,910 --> 02:51:47,460
John C Dvorak: Is an F cancer
for his brother and a Karma

2830
02:51:47,460 --> 02:51:52,110
boost for the family would be
appreciated. Nice job on the

2831
02:51:52,290 --> 02:51:59,010
Altman dash Elon dash Fitmin
imitations your a hoot thank you

2832
02:51:59,010 --> 02:52:03,630
and John for all the hard work
which helps us stay sane sir

2833
02:52:03,630 --> 02:52:04,200
Delhi yacht.

2834
02:52:09,090 --> 02:52:13,440
Adam Curry: You've got karma and
karma boosts will add a goat to

2835
02:52:13,440 --> 02:52:22,110
that for you. You've got karma.
And we've got Eddie with 333 in

2836
02:52:22,110 --> 02:52:25,620
Mableton, Georgia. Hi JCD and
Adam C love the show. Thank you

2837
02:52:25,620 --> 02:52:28,260
for your courage. Here's a long
overdue to show notation from

2838
02:52:28,260 --> 02:52:32,820
Edie. At EJ three gutters
serving North Georgia's gutter

2839
02:52:32,820 --> 02:52:38,010
needs this is a switcheroo for
my beautiful wife delecia Fleur

2840
02:52:38,070 --> 02:52:41,940
now there's there's a name for
you there's a name and Alicia

2841
02:52:41,940 --> 02:52:45,900
love Fleur everybody say hello
to Mademoiselle Dudley

2842
02:52:45,900 --> 02:52:48,180
John C Dvorak: showed a friend
here she is.

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02:52:51,510 --> 02:52:55,200
Adam Curry: Seriously, jaw
Delicia Fleur who's having a

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02:52:55,200 --> 02:53:00,030
birthday Monday 1127 day 331
Almost 333 Like my donation.

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02:53:00,150 --> 02:53:03,510
Please credit her as executive
producer for this awesome show.

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02:53:03,630 --> 02:53:08,040
1611 Consider it done, sir.
Absolutely.

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02:53:08,340 --> 02:53:10,140
John C Dvorak: We dropped down
the Associate Executive

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02:53:10,140 --> 02:53:19,170
producers with the Kyle to hygge
in Spokane, Washington. And this

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02:53:19,170 --> 02:53:21,660
Adam Curry: was a nice note
accrue. This isn't nice. This

2850
02:53:21,660 --> 02:53:22,470
was a nice note,

2851
02:53:23,910 --> 02:53:26,850
John C Dvorak: ITM this donation
is in honor of episode 1609

2852
02:53:26,850 --> 02:53:30,750
approximately 42 minutes in when
the clip of you and your banter

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02:53:30,750 --> 02:53:33,450
resulted in no less than eight
repetitions of the phrase

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02:53:33,780 --> 02:53:37,890
pulling the goalie. Well,
comical to hear you both come to

2855
02:53:37,890 --> 02:53:41,460
understand that phrase related
to removing contraception. It

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02:53:41,460 --> 02:53:47,550
was one of a cluster of signs
for from God for us to do so

2857
02:53:47,580 --> 02:53:50,280
now. My amazing lady and I are
both divorced. She has had an

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02:53:50,310 --> 02:53:54,510
awesome kid, kids and I had none
a few years back we met

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02:53:54,510 --> 02:53:57,960
serendipitously in her favorite
mountain and quickly fell in

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02:53:57,960 --> 02:54:01,230
love. She's in Washington yep
mountain just mountains there

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02:54:01,500 --> 02:54:04,350
and quickly fell in love yet
gave up on the prospect of her

2862
02:54:04,350 --> 02:54:07,830
own child due to our ages. This
past week has brought us a

2863
02:54:07,830 --> 02:54:12,420
series of unmistakable signs to
give hope and encouragement to

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02:54:12,420 --> 02:54:15,930
the prospect of her own child
and no agenda talking about

2865
02:54:15,930 --> 02:54:19,560
pulling the goalie was one of
the signs as we both heard the

2866
02:54:19,560 --> 02:54:22,590
segment separately while
contemplating such a huge

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02:54:22,590 --> 02:54:26,850
decisions couples that no agenda
together stay together he writes

2868
02:54:27,240 --> 02:54:31,530
well the goal is now pulling we
could use some prayer and baby

2869
02:54:31,530 --> 02:54:37,290
making karma Kyle aka the spooky
Spokane jingles whole load

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little girl Yay.

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02:54:38,910 --> 02:54:43,530
Adam Curry: So you know the rule
right? That when you know when

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02:54:43,530 --> 02:54:46,470
you have your child, you realize
that you're gonna have to name

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02:54:46,470 --> 02:54:52,560
it. John or John? John Adams,
John Adams, John Adams, even if

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02:54:52,560 --> 02:54:55,080
it's a girl, okay, them's the
rules.

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02:54:55,110 --> 02:54:56,550
John C Dvorak: John is a good
name just so

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02:54:58,530 --> 02:55:00,450
Adam Curry: you got some baby
making karma and Prayer

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02:55:00,450 --> 02:55:02,010
Unknown: give me the whole load
today.

2878
02:55:03,360 --> 02:55:05,730
Adam Curry: I'll pray for you.
I'll pray for that. You've got

2879
02:55:05,910 --> 02:55:11,910
karma has great John the things
we you and I do man we are

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02:55:11,910 --> 02:55:16,890
really changing people's lives.
David Harper is in Brookfield,

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02:55:17,130 --> 02:55:25,170
Missouri and comes in with 20909
says please. You've been D duped

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and it goes on to say I love
Jesus Bitcoin and making my own

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music. It's the trifecta. I am
at crypto Holic with a que

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crypto Holic on Twitter x I have
only three song links there and

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02:55:37,260 --> 02:55:41,070
hope you'd like them to kill
Deep End robots. Your show means

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02:55:41,070 --> 02:55:45,060
a lot to me I appreciate your
guys dedication BTC piece and I

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would say get those on value for
value. You can do that get your

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songs up on value for value go
to RSS blue.com They can help

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you out.

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02:55:55,410 --> 02:56:00,450
John C Dvorak: Are van IPEN Berg
and bear eapen Bears oh it's

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02:56:00,600 --> 02:56:02,640
always in keep in our van

2892
02:56:02,700 --> 02:56:06,390
Adam Curry: even better beat
joven Bilthoven

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02:56:07,020 --> 02:56:08,520
John C Dvorak: oh I chose beat
now bill

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02:56:08,520 --> 02:56:10,560
Adam Curry: yet joven Bilthoven
Yes

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02:56:10,590 --> 02:56:13,860
John C Dvorak: $200.04 no notes
no nothing give him a double up

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02:56:13,860 --> 02:56:14,310
karma.

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02:56:14,700 --> 02:56:23,460
Adam Curry: Gotta double up
karma style karma and Associate

2898
02:56:23,460 --> 02:56:26,460
Executive Producer with $200
We're almost done. Talia Dupree

2899
02:56:26,460 --> 02:56:29,460
from McKinney, Texas not that
far away. short note it is.

2900
02:56:29,700 --> 02:56:31,890
Thanks for all you do. Please
add me to the birthday list.

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02:56:31,890 --> 02:56:35,430
You're on it. I'll turn 40 on
the 28th No jingles no karma.

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02:56:35,550 --> 02:56:39,510
Talia Dupree Douglas in
McKinney, Texas. And

2903
02:56:39,510 --> 02:56:42,000
John C Dvorak: finally we come
to Linda Lou Pat Guin who's

2904
02:56:42,030 --> 02:56:46,530
keeping up the pace from
Lakewood Colorado. Jobs karma

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Bri remarkable resume that gets
results go to Image makers

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inc.com For all your executive
resume and job search needs. She

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writes that's image makers Inc
with a k.com or just find Linda

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02:56:58,080 --> 02:57:01,320
Lou Pat can under the show's
producer list jobs,

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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs or
jobs.

2910
02:57:08,880 --> 02:57:11,370
Adam Curry: Well, that wraps are
up our executive and Associate

2911
02:57:11,370 --> 02:57:13,530
Executive Producers another
great showing thank you for

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02:57:13,530 --> 02:57:17,040
bringing the treasure today. We
know that there'll be it'll

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02:57:17,220 --> 02:57:21,090
it'll drop down significantly
after after after the Christmas

2914
02:57:21,090 --> 02:57:25,650
holidays. So we will be saving
that up. Of course we appreciate

2915
02:57:25,680 --> 02:57:30,000
any donation amount that anyone
is willing to part with to

2916
02:57:30,000 --> 02:57:32,970
support our work. We don't play
any commercials don't take any

2917
02:57:33,180 --> 02:57:36,870
creepy corporate money's just
whatever value you get out of

2918
02:57:36,870 --> 02:57:41,790
the show. We appreciate it if
you return it to us. And I will

2919
02:57:41,790 --> 02:57:47,610
just say in addition that we
read all of the donations above

2920
02:57:47,610 --> 02:57:51,600
$50 Anything below that is not
read for reasons of anonymity.

2921
02:57:51,870 --> 02:57:54,720
And of course we always have our
sustaining donations which we

2922
02:57:54,720 --> 02:57:57,960
appreciate. You can make those
up yourself. You can find them

2923
02:57:57,960 --> 02:57:58,260
all

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02:57:58,260 --> 02:58:02,190
Unknown: at vo.org/in anginal

2925
02:58:02,190 --> 02:58:03,780
Adam Curry: take us down to the
50 shortlist

2926
02:58:04,650 --> 02:58:08,130
John C Dvorak: and I love what I
do shortlist we start off with

2927
02:58:08,130 --> 02:58:15,180
William bulk Bullock blook in
Buckeye, Arizona. $100 Frank, by

2928
02:58:15,180 --> 02:58:18,960
the way, it's a pretty short
list. Frank Taurasi and Toronto

2929
02:58:18,960 --> 02:58:26,040
Ontario Canada where the Ontario
airport is 100 He needs a de

2930
02:58:26,040 --> 02:58:26,490
douching

2931
02:58:28,320 --> 02:58:31,170
Unknown: you've been de deuced
to

2932
02:58:31,170 --> 02:58:36,900
John C Dvorak: Brian Tobias and
in Gardner, Kansas. 880 dot 88

2933
02:58:38,580 --> 02:58:43,530
is some sort of boob donation
prank and she Petah in

2934
02:58:43,530 --> 02:58:49,860
Carpentersville, Illinois 808.
Kevin McLaughlin, our regular

2935
02:58:50,220 --> 02:58:55,740
boob donator in Concord, North
Carolina 808 with the

2936
02:58:55,740 --> 02:58:59,040
commentary, they are bouncy,
they're fun boobs make the world

2937
02:58:59,040 --> 02:59:06,750
go round. Greg Hart lob in
Cincinnati, Ohio at Gary Blatt

2938
02:59:06,750 --> 02:59:11,550
in Chesterbrook. Pennsylvania
7777 Kevin McLaughlin is back

2939
02:59:12,390 --> 02:59:16,170
606 with a small boobs and he
says boobs are the secret to

2940
02:59:16,170 --> 02:59:24,570
eternal youth. James Sullivan
Stratford Connecticut 5678

2941
02:59:26,790 --> 02:59:34,860
surbey Boop in New Brighton
Minnesota people 5432 Charles

2942
02:59:34,860 --> 02:59:38,130
Boyd in San Marcos, Texas 50 Oh
wait, we're already at the

2943
02:59:38,130 --> 02:59:43,770
53 $50 donors name and location.
Charles Boyd San Marcos, Texas

2944
02:59:43,770 --> 02:59:48,720
Topsis off Brian Hummel in
Wimberley, Texas, another Texan

2945
02:59:49,170 --> 02:59:54,600
Samuel Kennedy in North
Riverside, Illinois. Diego Lopez

2946
02:59:54,600 --> 03:00:03,720
crane in Ithaca, New York. Sol
Mitra Sava Are Saravana so Mitra

2947
03:00:03,720 --> 03:00:08,910
Saravana in Fredericksburg,
Virginia, Fall Line farm in

2948
03:00:08,910 --> 03:00:14,910
Columbus, Georgia. John Walter
in Wenatchee, Washington. We

2949
03:00:14,910 --> 03:00:17,580
have a bunch of miles from
Washington from Massachusetts,

2950
03:00:17,700 --> 03:00:21,150
Amy Grohl and bureau in
Washington. You'll see that town

2951
03:00:21,180 --> 03:00:24,960
when you leave the airport.
Derek how in Douglas

2952
03:00:24,960 --> 03:00:29,310
Massachusetts, Shana Norberg and
Seattle, Washington Scott

2953
03:00:29,310 --> 03:00:34,380
McCarty in Lodi, California
forest Scott Brinkley in

2954
03:00:34,380 --> 03:00:39,960
Christiansburg. Virginia. Brian
Emin Heiser in Lancaster,

2955
03:00:39,960 --> 03:00:45,000
California Jax chauffage
Schofield Schofield in

2956
03:00:45,000 --> 03:00:51,030
yankeetown, Florida, Gary Gibson
in fruit port Michigan, and oh

2957
03:00:51,030 --> 03:00:54,750
that wraps it up is dense quick.
Want to thank these people for

2958
03:00:54,750 --> 03:00:58,020
making the show 1611 The reality
that it is

2959
03:00:58,110 --> 03:01:00,060
Adam Curry: thank you all very
much for supporting the no

2960
03:01:00,060 --> 03:01:05,460
agenda show 16 years and
counting 16 111 episodes. It is

2961
03:01:05,460 --> 03:01:09,150
value for value remember us at
divorce iq.org Or at no agenda

2962
03:01:09,150 --> 03:01:13,140
donation.com Thank you for
supporting us represented 1611

2963
03:01:13,170 --> 03:01:17,820
Our formula is this. We go out
for yet people in the mouth

2964
03:01:37,530 --> 03:01:40,380
we do have a couple of birthdays
we're celebrating Eddie wishes

2965
03:01:40,380 --> 03:01:43,680
his beautiful wife Alicia
Lafleur. Happy birthday she will

2966
03:01:43,680 --> 03:01:48,000
be celebrating tomorrow on the
27th Talia Dupree turns 40 on

2967
03:01:48,000 --> 03:01:52,230
the 20 8am Burnett and he goes
the hills which is Sir ego Hi, a

2968
03:01:52,230 --> 03:01:55,290
very happy birthday and we join
in and say happy birthday for

2969
03:01:55,290 --> 03:01:57,810
everybody here the best podcast
in the universe

2970
03:02:06,870 --> 03:02:09,780
don't want to be a douchebag
we're looking at two title

2971
03:02:09,780 --> 03:02:12,720
changes today. As you heard
earlier, sir Dr. Otter of the

2972
03:02:12,720 --> 03:02:16,920
flat water becomes served Dr.
Otter Baronet of the flat water

2973
03:02:16,920 --> 03:02:21,150
and Sir Mike Black Knight
becomes barren surplus keeper of

2974
03:02:21,150 --> 03:02:25,200
the Federal Reserve and we
believe he's in Australia doing

2975
03:02:25,200 --> 03:02:30,180
that. Now it is time for our PhD
graduates. This will be the was

2976
03:02:30,180 --> 03:02:33,270
it one more time after this for
the Thursday show. As this ends

2977
03:02:33,270 --> 03:02:36,630
on the 330/3 day of the week
that is this Wednesday. We'd

2978
03:02:36,630 --> 03:02:40,350
like to welcome Mario Rakow of
the year yes Sir Donald sir

2979
03:02:40,350 --> 03:02:43,980
Mike. Dred Scott, sir rolling up
the Crystal Palace, Maurice

2980
03:02:44,190 --> 03:02:47,970
Janie, the former spook David
Robert Shepard, Donald Barth.

2981
03:02:47,970 --> 03:02:52,260
Hello Jim Turner and Andy Walmer
welcome new no agenda MDPh

2982
03:02:52,260 --> 03:02:55,860
scenes in the society of
learning persons. The path to

2983
03:02:55,860 --> 03:02:58,200
this high academic honor for
some of you has been a long one

2984
03:02:58,200 --> 03:03:00,510
and a costly one some of the
price have been paid to your

2985
03:03:00,510 --> 03:03:04,230
hard earned wisdom and someone
other ways but today is not in

2986
03:03:04,380 --> 03:03:07,260
it's only the beginning. From
this point forward. Go forth and

2987
03:03:07,260 --> 03:03:09,930
spread that no agenda word far
and wide. We will not be

2988
03:03:09,930 --> 03:03:12,660
silenced. We will not be
deterred. The truth is

2989
03:03:23,190 --> 03:03:31,800
oh man I need some tepid water.
Yes, that was my mistake. I

2990
03:03:31,800 --> 03:03:36,090
didn't have any separate tepid
water. I don't have tepid water

2991
03:03:36,090 --> 03:03:41,070
but I do have one day and a
couple of nights actually. So

2992
03:03:41,100 --> 03:03:42,450
bring out your bring out this. I

2993
03:03:42,450 --> 03:03:44,910
John C Dvorak: have one blade.
Here you go. That works

2994
03:03:44,910 --> 03:03:47,040
Adam Curry: for the for the
dame. Sure. And the night there

2995
03:03:47,040 --> 03:03:52,290
you go. Paula, hop on up here.
Mark recalls Maurice. Jamie the

2996
03:03:52,290 --> 03:03:57,840
former spook David Turner and
Jason all of you. Thanks to your

2997
03:03:57,840 --> 03:04:00,720
donations that no agenda show
we're about to become a knights

2998
03:04:00,750 --> 03:04:04,620
and a dame and I'm very proud to
pronounce Kate vs. Dame Paula

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rescuer of secondhand kitties.
Sir Not Sure sir M Knight of the

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media landscape surviving the
Communist takeover circumstance,

3001
03:04:13,350 --> 03:04:15,840
protector of the sharp clawed
creatures Sir James with the

3002
03:04:15,840 --> 03:04:19,980
Derby City and Sir Jason, of the
insert name here for you. We've

3003
03:04:19,980 --> 03:04:22,950
got hookers and blow rent boys
and Chardonnay. We got white

3004
03:04:22,950 --> 03:04:26,400
Russians Eagle rare bourbon and
well done tater tots we got

3005
03:04:26,730 --> 03:04:30,600
sparkling cider and escorts
ginger ale and turtles. And of

3006
03:04:30,600 --> 03:04:33,720
course mutton and meat. It's
always here on tap for you.

3007
03:04:34,050 --> 03:04:37,050
While you're enjoying that, I
guess you don't have to use

3008
03:04:37,050 --> 03:04:40,410
silverware. It's fun. You can
use your hands especially for

3009
03:04:40,440 --> 03:04:43,170
for mutton there's not a
problem. But be careful don't

3010
03:04:43,170 --> 03:04:46,320
get your keyboard dirty. Go over
to no agenda ringside calm there

3011
03:04:46,320 --> 03:04:50,370
you can find a place to well as
instructions on how to size your

3012
03:04:50,370 --> 03:04:53,040
ring and then where to set and
where to give your see your

3013
03:04:53,040 --> 03:04:55,320
address or we can send that
there that goes also for our

3014
03:04:55,320 --> 03:04:59,340
PhDs you'll see in the menu, no
agenda PhDs give us the name and

3015
03:04:59,340 --> 03:05:02,400
we read commend you use your
real name for your PhD and where

3016
03:05:02,400 --> 03:05:05,070
we can send that and with the
rings of course you get your wax

3017
03:05:05,070 --> 03:05:07,050
to seal your important
correspondence where they are

3018
03:05:07,050 --> 03:05:10,560
Signet rings and a certificate
of authenticity. And thank you

3019
03:05:10,560 --> 03:05:13,710
all for supporting the no agenda
show no one

3020
03:05:21,990 --> 03:05:25,350
this is this is really the
connection that people enjoy

3021
03:05:25,410 --> 03:05:29,340
most in their lives is going to
no agenda meet up. The people

3022
03:05:29,340 --> 03:05:33,060
that no agenda together stay
together, you may meet a future

3023
03:05:33,060 --> 03:05:36,240
mate. Through the show so many
you never knew that it was

3024
03:05:36,240 --> 03:05:38,910
listening to Jay urine. I had
never worked. I didn't realize

3025
03:05:38,910 --> 03:05:42,090
you were really incredible. You
can mess up and a few times.

3026
03:05:42,090 --> 03:05:45,150
It's certainly happened a few
times. And I think this happened

3027
03:05:45,150 --> 03:05:47,670
more times than we even know
people have mentioned it to us.

3028
03:05:47,670 --> 03:05:50,430
So next time you're sending in a
note, let us know if that

3029
03:05:50,430 --> 03:05:54,060
happened. Before we list the
upcoming meetups. Here's a

3030
03:05:54,060 --> 03:05:56,640
couple of reports from Los
Angeles the flight of the no

3031
03:05:56,640 --> 03:05:59,190
agenda number 46. Leo Bravo
everybody.

3032
03:05:59,220 --> 03:06:02,070
Unknown: It's Leo Bravo flight
at the no agenda meetup number

3033
03:06:02,070 --> 03:06:06,270
46. I think I'm passing the
phone around. Folks have things

3034
03:06:06,270 --> 03:06:07,350
to say in the morning.

3035
03:06:07,350 --> 03:06:10,560
This is Andrew from Iran in the
morning. This is Dan still a

3036
03:06:10,560 --> 03:06:11,220
douchebag

3037
03:06:12,090 --> 03:06:13,260
Hey, what are you drinking?

3038
03:06:13,320 --> 03:06:15,960
Adam Curry: It's It's
refreshing. It's good. It's

3039
03:06:16,230 --> 03:06:22,050
breast milk in a can. Okay, all
right. We got comedians. Let's

3040
03:06:22,050 --> 03:06:24,240
see how Fort Wayne did for their
meetup requirement.

3041
03:06:24,240 --> 03:06:26,670
Unknown: John. This is Shannon
co host in Fort Wayne. We

3042
03:06:26,670 --> 03:06:29,370
invited the indie group up and
we put the boom and bingo Boom

3043
03:06:29,370 --> 03:06:32,130
shakalaka Sally from Fort Wayne
in the morning. Thank you in the

3044
03:06:32,130 --> 03:06:34,950
morning, John and Adam. This is
Alicia from Indy with Fort Wayne

3045
03:06:34,950 --> 03:06:35,220
group.

3046
03:06:35,250 --> 03:06:38,340
This is Jared from Fort Wayne,
Indiana. Just got my m&ms with

3047
03:06:38,340 --> 03:06:39,240
peanuts. Hey,

3048
03:06:39,240 --> 03:06:42,090
this is Dave Trinity having a
great time. Lots of target

3049
03:06:42,090 --> 03:06:44,010
practice and food. Thanks for
your courage

3050
03:06:44,070 --> 03:06:47,130
in the morning PBR street gang.
John, what

3051
03:06:47,130 --> 03:06:51,630
are you drinking? Hello, this is
de Maria. And this is Sir mark

3052
03:06:51,660 --> 03:06:55,380
up the Fort Wayne meetup. And we
had a great time shooting and

3053
03:06:55,410 --> 03:06:58,410
eating and deconstructing
everything we could find. Oh,

3054
03:06:58,410 --> 03:06:58,590
this

3055
03:06:58,590 --> 03:07:01,260
is Mike with the Fort Wayne
group have no agenda and the

3056
03:07:01,290 --> 03:07:05,100
Indy group has made peace with
us and come and ate dinner and

3057
03:07:05,190 --> 03:07:07,620
had a great time tonight. I've
checked all their browser

3058
03:07:07,620 --> 03:07:10,200
history and I can officially say
there are no spooks here.

3059
03:07:10,620 --> 03:07:14,490
Adam Curry: I love that, you
know, people who are if you ever

3060
03:07:14,490 --> 03:07:16,890
wonder what it's like to shoot a
gun, find one of these meetups

3061
03:07:16,890 --> 03:07:20,190
where they where they go shoot
stuff. It's a great way for you

3062
03:07:20,190 --> 03:07:23,610
because you know it's always
intimidating. You go to a range

3063
03:07:23,670 --> 03:07:24,870
again, and I don't know what I'm
doing.

3064
03:07:26,310 --> 03:07:30,390
John C Dvorak: I have a note for
this sort of thing. Generally

3065
03:07:30,390 --> 03:07:33,420
speaking, if you find someone
that has a lot of guns that

3066
03:07:33,420 --> 03:07:36,900
collected and you go shooting
with them, they like nothing

3067
03:07:36,900 --> 03:07:41,070
more than you shooting their
guns and their ammo and their

3068
03:07:41,070 --> 03:07:43,950
ammo so you can share the
experience of oh, what do you

3069
03:07:43,950 --> 03:07:50,880
think of the way that Ppk shot?
Left

3070
03:07:50,940 --> 03:07:53,460
Adam Curry: the best. The best
is to do it with the Baron

3071
03:07:53,460 --> 03:08:00,600
Scott's reloads. That's the best
click Oh. Is reload sometimes

3072
03:08:00,600 --> 03:08:01,230
they don't go.

3073
03:08:01,650 --> 03:08:04,410
John C Dvorak: Well. I'd like to
go shooting black powder with

3074
03:08:04,410 --> 03:08:04,890
someone.

3075
03:08:05,190 --> 03:08:08,340
Adam Curry: We had one of those
at one of the no agenda, shoot

3076
03:08:08,340 --> 03:08:11,460
meetups and I think they got
kicked off the range no black

3077
03:08:11,460 --> 03:08:15,960
powder allowed. So but that's
too bad. Now we didn't go back

3078
03:08:15,960 --> 03:08:19,080
to that range. Don't worry. We
don't look we don't we don't we

3079
03:08:19,110 --> 03:08:23,310
that's not how we roll man. Hey,
there's a meetup coming up on

3080
03:08:23,310 --> 03:08:26,430
the 30th this Thursday is the
Mile High meet up 630 at

3081
03:08:26,430 --> 03:08:30,390
Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver,
Colorado and also on Thursday in

3082
03:08:30,390 --> 03:08:34,680
Tilburg. The Netherlands is the
one week after another

3083
03:08:34,680 --> 03:08:37,290
Parliament election in the
Netherlands, eight o'clock and

3084
03:08:37,290 --> 03:08:41,970
beer Cafe Kandinsky until birth
and I've been there for some

3085
03:08:41,970 --> 03:08:45,510
reason in Tilburg, the
Netherlands. That should be a

3086
03:08:45,510 --> 03:08:48,870
lot of fun and I expect a good
report and do the report before

3087
03:08:48,870 --> 03:08:52,140
you before you're all stoned.
Will you just tighten it up a

3088
03:08:52,140 --> 03:08:55,230
little bit because this they're
always so hammered. But they

3089
03:08:55,230 --> 03:08:59,070
have a lot of fun. In the month
of December, St. Gabriel,

3090
03:08:59,100 --> 03:09:02,400
Louisiana on the first Fort
Wayne, Indiana on the first

3091
03:09:02,790 --> 03:09:05,670
Hagen them Connecticut on the
second Garden City Idaho on the

3092
03:09:05,670 --> 03:09:09,690
second Cheyenne, Wyoming on the
third and the big Indianapolis

3093
03:09:09,690 --> 03:09:12,780
Indiana meet up on the fourth. I
will be there with Tina the

3094
03:09:12,780 --> 03:09:16,410
keeper we're really looking
forward to that. On the sixth

3095
03:09:16,410 --> 03:09:19,680
Fort Dodge Iowa the seventh we
have Simpsonville South Carolina

3096
03:09:19,680 --> 03:09:24,030
Raleigh, North Carolina on the
eighth grace us grace What is

3097
03:09:24,030 --> 03:09:30,300
this? Grasses Hora pull Bovada
Gemini. Alright, I want to meet

3098
03:09:30,300 --> 03:09:33,570
up report from you guys. On the
nine three forks, Montana

3099
03:09:33,570 --> 03:09:36,060
Brooklyn, New York. Be
interesting to hear meet up

3100
03:09:36,060 --> 03:09:38,520
report from that as well.
Houston, Texas, Fredericksburg,

3101
03:09:38,520 --> 03:09:41,760
Virginia, Mayfield Heights,
Ohio, and another

3102
03:09:41,790 --> 03:09:45,000
Fredericksburg, Virginia that
must be a double. I think

3103
03:09:45,000 --> 03:09:47,460
there's only one for one that
knew this to meet ups on the

3104
03:09:47,460 --> 03:09:53,040
same day on the 16th Epping, New
Hampshire, Gloucester, Virginia,

3105
03:09:53,130 --> 03:09:56,610
Cincinnati, Ohio on the 21st
Charlotte, North Carolina and on

3106
03:09:56,610 --> 03:10:02,250
the 28th Lombok next to Bali,
Indonesia. Oh, come in. Wouldn't

3107
03:10:02,250 --> 03:10:05,640
you love to be at that meet up?
Oh, we're all freezing away here

3108
03:10:05,640 --> 03:10:08,790
in Texas. Those are the meat no
agenda meetups, you can find

3109
03:10:08,790 --> 03:10:11,550
them all at no agenda
meetups.com Seriously though, if

3110
03:10:11,550 --> 03:10:15,210
you love the show, if you like
the amygdala shrinkage if you

3111
03:10:15,210 --> 03:10:18,300
love the media deconstruction
that show love the people who

3112
03:10:18,300 --> 03:10:22,110
also love no agenda and love
being part of this community, go

3113
03:10:22,110 --> 03:10:25,470
find them connection is
protection go look at no agenda

3114
03:10:25,470 --> 03:10:28,350
meetup.com If you can't find one
near you start one yourself.

3115
03:10:28,350 --> 03:10:30,420
It's easy and always apart a

3116
03:10:36,630 --> 03:10:44,010
bomb bomb you won't be
triggered. You want to be where

3117
03:10:44,010 --> 03:10:48,660
everybody knows us your shame.
Everybody feels your shame is

3118
03:10:48,660 --> 03:10:54,330
like it is just like a pot. Like
a party. I said like a party

3119
03:10:54,330 --> 03:10:59,760
like a party like a party. I
only have one Eisah to play it.

3120
03:11:00,060 --> 03:11:06,090
Oh my god. It's cute. Oh, did
you say that like you like you

3121
03:11:06,090 --> 03:11:07,110
got some better?

3122
03:11:08,280 --> 03:11:10,770
John C Dvorak: Well, I got a few
I got I got I'm following the

3123
03:11:10,770 --> 03:11:14,340
theme of the kids as trade shows
over. Okay,

3124
03:11:14,940 --> 03:11:19,290
Adam Curry: show's over. Not
bad. I like it. Not bad. Not

3125
03:11:19,290 --> 03:11:19,560
bad.

3126
03:11:20,070 --> 03:11:24,870
John C Dvorak: Okay, let's try
podcast structure. This podcast

3127
03:11:24,870 --> 03:11:26,280
has no structure.

3128
03:11:27,720 --> 03:11:30,450
Adam Curry: Like Show's over
better than that. But okay. Oh,

3129
03:11:30,450 --> 03:11:30,510
it

3130
03:11:30,510 --> 03:11:32,100
John C Dvorak: didn't go to
great achievement.

3131
03:11:32,130 --> 03:11:35,910
Adam Curry: That is a great
achievement. I think I like the

3132
03:11:35,910 --> 03:11:39,780
kid show. That's just so good.

3133
03:11:40,500 --> 03:11:41,700
Unknown: Now it's time for

3134
03:11:45,990 --> 03:11:48,750
Adam Curry: time for some good
news, John, we'd never want to

3135
03:11:48,750 --> 03:11:49,230
leave are

3136
03:11:50,130 --> 03:11:52,620
John C Dvorak: hard to find, in
fact, was so hard to find that

3137
03:11:52,620 --> 03:11:56,100
this is a story I got from
Wichita, Kansas. But it's not

3138
03:11:56,100 --> 03:12:01,110
about Kansas moving. It's about
something in North Carolina. But

3139
03:12:01,110 --> 03:12:05,760
it's a great news story. But by
the way, it's an ABC affiliate

3140
03:12:05,760 --> 03:12:09,750
in Wichita. And it's about a
Disney giveaway. movie

3141
03:12:09,750 --> 03:12:12,060
Unknown: screening and Briar
Creek turned into so much more

3142
03:12:12,060 --> 03:12:14,970
for one local family Disney, our
parent company here at ABC a

3143
03:12:14,970 --> 03:12:17,280
loving partner with Make A Wish
eastern North Carolina and

3144
03:12:17,280 --> 03:12:20,550
together they invited kids to a
sneak peek at the not yet

3145
03:12:20,550 --> 03:12:23,490
released movie wish. And it
seems everyone inside that

3146
03:12:23,490 --> 03:12:27,060
theater learns a little wish can
go a long way to be surprised

3147
03:12:27,060 --> 03:12:30,000
was there when that wish was
granted. Then talk to a grateful

3148
03:12:30,000 --> 03:12:33,330
mom about what this will mean
for her son. Hi, Jimmy's Hi

3149
03:12:33,330 --> 03:12:37,650
Lauren. This which represents a
new chapter for the family. It's

3150
03:12:37,650 --> 03:12:41,340
a fresh start where their child
is healthy and whole and can

3151
03:12:41,340 --> 03:12:45,270
really be a kid again, all of
this unfolding on the big

3152
03:12:45,270 --> 03:12:50,100
screen. In true fairytale
fashion. This stage is set. This

3153
03:12:50,100 --> 03:12:53,820
is such a special night for a
magical moment. So we see

3154
03:12:53,820 --> 03:12:58,620
children filled with joy Disney
and make a wish celebrating a

3155
03:12:58,620 --> 03:13:02,250
decade long partnership with a
special screening of Disney's

3156
03:13:02,250 --> 03:13:07,410
new animated musical wish the
VIPs invited inside this Briar

3157
03:13:07,410 --> 03:13:11,790
Creek theater families with ties
to the wish granting nonprofit

3158
03:13:11,970 --> 03:13:16,050
tonight they got an early peek
inside a fairy tale on the big

3159
03:13:16,050 --> 03:13:18,240
screen before one plays out.

3160
03:13:25,380 --> 03:13:29,460
You ever carpenter from Georgia
is the lucky recipient. You

3161
03:13:29,460 --> 03:13:33,000
are going to get on a train and
spend the night on the train

3162
03:13:33,000 --> 03:13:35,520
while it drags you down to
Florida and you're going to go

3163
03:13:35,520 --> 03:13:37,230
to this wish

3164
03:13:37,320 --> 03:13:37,920
grant.

3165
03:13:38,250 --> 03:13:43,830
It's overwhelming and really,
really happy and cry. Just to

3166
03:13:43,830 --> 03:13:45,390
get this to this point, little
Everett

3167
03:13:45,390 --> 03:13:50,010
was diagnosed with leukemia in
December 2010. Fighting in a big

3168
03:13:50,010 --> 03:13:51,090
way for celebrating

3169
03:13:51,090 --> 03:13:54,810
his his strength and his courage
and his endurance. Everything

3170
03:13:54,810 --> 03:13:55,170
that he's been

3171
03:13:55,170 --> 03:13:57,420
through right this last
treatment was in February of

3172
03:13:57,420 --> 03:13:58,110
this year.

3173
03:13:58,320 --> 03:14:01,620
I have been waiting for this
point just because I think it's

3174
03:14:01,620 --> 03:14:04,620
a good way to close a chapter on
like a very horrible part of our

3175
03:14:04,620 --> 03:14:06,270
life. But it's also ending very
well

3176
03:14:06,300 --> 03:14:09,930
the foundation working every day
to grant the wishes of children

3177
03:14:10,290 --> 03:14:13,260
with a life threatening illness,
or wishes really

3178
03:14:13,290 --> 03:14:16,320
a break. It is a moment in time
for the family to just be

3179
03:14:16,320 --> 03:14:19,050
together. It gives them an
opportunity to kind of forget

3180
03:14:19,050 --> 03:14:21,450
some of the struggles that
they've been dealing with. It

3181
03:14:21,450 --> 03:14:25,830
inspires children to dream and
to think big and before

3182
03:14:25,830 --> 03:14:28,800
Everett heads out to the
happiest place on earth and

3183
03:14:28,800 --> 03:14:33,300
learning a lesson on the silver
screen. That no whiz is ever too

3184
03:14:33,300 --> 03:14:42,810
big to drink. A good news story
from JCD happy vibes for you and

3185
03:14:42,810 --> 03:14:48,270
me and we all feel better now
he's done his bit. To back to

3186
03:14:48,270 --> 03:14:50,490
reality. That's turning to shit.

3187
03:14:51,750 --> 03:14:53,970
Adam Curry: I don't know man
that sounded more like a native

3188
03:14:53,970 --> 03:14:55,050
ad than anything.

3189
03:14:55,200 --> 03:14:57,180
John C Dvorak: I yeah, I was not
happy with that.

3190
03:14:58,110 --> 03:15:00,270
Adam Curry: No one was happy
with that presentation. Should

3191
03:15:03,000 --> 03:15:07,830
Oh, well, sorry. It's hard. It's
finding good news is hard.

3192
03:15:07,860 --> 03:15:10,170
John C Dvorak: It's hard. It
turns out to be yes.

3193
03:15:10,860 --> 03:15:14,160
Adam Curry: Well, good news is
behind the scheme's is coming up

3194
03:15:14,160 --> 03:15:18,120
next. I know agenda stream.com
If you stay tuned into your app,

3195
03:15:18,120 --> 03:15:20,910
or if you're listening, I know
agenda stream.com or control

3196
03:15:20,910 --> 03:15:25,650
room.io. And of show mixes, we
have Professor JJ checking in

3197
03:15:25,650 --> 03:15:30,540
from China. We got the Rolando
Gonzalez from Dallas and Tom

3198
03:15:30,540 --> 03:15:35,550
Starkweather, who's in the
spooks Ville area of Virginia,

3199
03:15:36,150 --> 03:15:42,510
Virginia, Virginia, Virginia.
And we return on Thursday with

3200
03:15:42,510 --> 03:15:46,290
another several hours of media
deconstruction we love doing we

3201
03:15:46,290 --> 03:15:49,440
love our jobs. We're thankful
for you supporting us, coming to

3202
03:15:49,440 --> 03:15:52,500
you from the heart of the Texas
Hill Country in FEMA Region

3203
03:15:52,500 --> 03:15:54,480
number six. I'm Adam curry,

3204
03:15:54,690 --> 03:15:57,600
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where I remain

3205
03:15:57,630 --> 03:16:01,470
and remind you that this is the
last week for the PhD and Jhansi

3206
03:16:01,470 --> 03:16:02,130
Dvorak and we'll

3207
03:16:02,130 --> 03:16:05,730
Adam Curry: be back on Thursday.
Until then, please remember us

3208
03:16:06,120 --> 03:16:10,050
by supporting us at divorce
act.org/and A or no agenda

3209
03:16:10,050 --> 03:16:15,510
donations.com to do Thursday,
adios Bobo's or Julio. And

3210
03:16:16,980 --> 03:16:21,210
Unknown: the CDC estimates there
have already been 1.6 million

3211
03:16:21,210 --> 03:16:25,650
flu cases RSV infections are
also on the rise impacting kids

3212
03:16:25,650 --> 03:16:28,410
under the age of four and
COVID-19 still a concern for a

3213
03:16:28,410 --> 03:16:31,950
lot of families but only about
15% of adults have received that

3214
03:16:31,950 --> 03:16:36,270
updated shot. This is the CDC
new director Dr. Mandy Cohen

3215
03:16:37,740 --> 03:16:41,760
remember COVID The three reasons
to get vaccinated one the virus

3216
03:16:41,760 --> 03:16:46,260
has changed every science and
third people are still getting

3217
03:16:46,260 --> 03:16:57,720
long home as well. They get in
the NA wotso role you know Wait

3218
03:16:57,720 --> 03:17:03,390
CQ 1.6 million flu cases is just
another flu RSV

3219
03:17:03,390 --> 03:17:05,940
infections are also on the right
give it one more

3220
03:17:07,050 --> 03:17:13,650
booster in me. Kids can realize
no escape GM RS

3221
03:17:20,760 --> 03:17:36,330
does mommy just this video not
many people have gotten the flu

3222
03:17:36,330 --> 03:17:40,950
shot or the COVID shot? How
concerned are you 15% of adults

3223
03:17:40,950 --> 03:17:41,100
have

3224
03:17:41,100 --> 03:17:42,600
received that updated shot

3225
03:17:42,750 --> 03:17:50,460
of the truss has gone away. Give
me four more posts today. And

3226
03:17:50,460 --> 03:17:54,960
third people are still getting
long either in this style. This

3227
03:17:54,960 --> 03:18:01,950
time in the search. So who is
reminding us Mandy?

3228
03:18:07,410 --> 03:18:12,660
No, mommy's you.

3229
03:18:21,840 --> 03:18:25,410
directing the Director of
Homeland Security Emergency

3230
03:18:25,410 --> 03:18:29,730
Services to develop media
literacy tools for K through 12.

3231
03:18:30,360 --> 03:18:33,150
In our public schools,
ultimately what it is, is it's

3232
03:18:33,150 --> 03:18:36,960
about machine learning. This
will teach students and even

3233
03:18:36,960 --> 03:18:41,700
teachers to help understand how
to spot conspiracy theories and

3234
03:18:41,700 --> 03:18:46,470
misinformation disinformation in
online heads. So the machine is

3235
03:18:46,470 --> 03:18:49,860
taught to start talking about
what we're seeing. And part of

3236
03:18:49,860 --> 03:18:53,850
the issue here is what
information is going into the

3237
03:18:53,850 --> 03:18:58,470
machine. What then, will be
produced in terms of decisions

3238
03:18:58,470 --> 03:19:02,340
and opinions that may be made
through that process that the

3239
03:19:02,340 --> 03:19:05,940
teachers the tools they need to
help these conversations in

3240
03:19:05,940 --> 03:19:09,300
school we understand the
technology. We know what is

3241
03:19:09,300 --> 03:19:14,100
going into my teaching younger
New Yorkers about how to discern

3242
03:19:14,100 --> 03:19:18,750
between digital facts and
digital fiction. We can better

3243
03:19:18,750 --> 03:19:24,510
inoculate them from hatred and
the spread of and prepare them

3244
03:19:24,510 --> 03:19:28,710
for a very fast moving and
confusing world best interest of

3245
03:19:28,710 --> 03:19:31,260
the health and safety and well
being of the people of our

3246
03:19:31,260 --> 03:19:32,850
country. Who

3247
03:19:32,850 --> 03:19:34,560
was telling the truth. What was
the

3248
03:19:34,590 --> 03:19:37,560
reality? grasped the country

3249
03:19:37,590 --> 03:19:38,970
the lasagna of lousy.

3250
03:19:39,060 --> 03:19:43,830
You know what you did? You like
beer? A kind of a wind up to the

3251
03:19:43,830 --> 03:19:45,120
F word. Kind of

3252
03:19:46,710 --> 03:19:50,970
every story. There's no
Praesidium America has a Trump

3253
03:19:50,970 --> 03:19:54,690
hotel and both parties are in
danger. Danger of winning.

3254
03:19:55,890 --> 03:19:59,820
But it can be worse. You can
actually kill somebody's kid and

3255
03:19:59,820 --> 03:20:01,950
play further tires to get them
to shut up.

3256
03:20:02,430 --> 03:20:03,120
I had one.

3257
03:20:04,290 --> 03:20:07,440
Technology is the big question
whether or not it is making

3258
03:20:07,470 --> 03:20:11,670
people happy lies, smears was
merged with the character

3259
03:20:11,670 --> 03:20:14,880
assassination and frankly the
bludgeoning of diversionary

3260
03:20:15,000 --> 03:20:20,160
blame the other person tactics
himself who was telling the

3261
03:20:20,160 --> 03:20:23,760
truth. Yes. What was the
reality? Look what they found.

3262
03:20:23,910 --> 03:20:27,030
I had one beer because we've got
facts and then we've got

3263
03:20:27,030 --> 03:20:29,370
feelings. There was one beer,
one

3264
03:20:29,370 --> 03:20:33,480
beer. All right and woofing is
not flatulence. You know what

3265
03:20:33,480 --> 03:20:34,020
you do?

3266
03:20:43,260 --> 03:20:50,670
Adios MoPhO boruch.org/in A
shower