1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,350 John C Dvorak: Yeah babies is a winner. 2 00:00:01,710 --> 00:00:05,910 Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi Devora November 5 2023 This 3 00:00:05,910 --> 00:00:08,970 short horde winning combination media assassination episode 4 00:00:08,970 --> 00:00:15,840 1605. This is no agenda. Remembering the system of Ember 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,960 and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,990 here in the region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam 7 00:00:21,990 --> 00:00:22,410 curry, 8 00:00:22,740 --> 00:00:25,530 John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where literally 9 00:00:25,530 --> 00:00:28,890 nobody knows what it means when you say that you look like the 10 00:00:28,890 --> 00:00:31,590 Bobbsey Twins, and Jhansi Dvorak. 11 00:00:35,430 --> 00:00:37,170 Adam Curry: That's funny. I said that just the other day to 12 00:00:37,170 --> 00:00:41,700 somebody. So someone literally knew but but they were 60. So 13 00:00:43,140 --> 00:00:46,050 the only 60 year olds know the Bob's you know, nobody knows. 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,250 Nobody knows the Bobbsey Twins anymore. How about you? 15 00:00:50,340 --> 00:00:52,530 John C Dvorak: Of course I do. Okay, tell us. 16 00:00:52,950 --> 00:00:55,140 Adam Curry: What was the challenge? The Bobbsey Twins was 17 00:00:55,980 --> 00:01:01,560 like a children's adventure book. And I'll give you another 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:07,530 one. The Happy Halloween stirs. Do you remember them? No. 19 00:01:08,010 --> 00:01:10,170 John C Dvorak: Man, that one? That did you remember that? All 20 00:01:10,170 --> 00:01:13,440 I remember is the Bobbsey Twins commentary. I didn't realize 21 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,560 that it was a series of books from about the early 1900s. 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,740 Yeah, to the 70s. So it's like 75 volumes. 23 00:01:19,740 --> 00:01:22,230 Adam Curry: Yeah. And how about this? Tom Swift? 24 00:01:23,220 --> 00:01:26,880 John C Dvorak: Yeah, Tom Swift. Yeah, I I used to read Tom Swift 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:27,540 when I was a kid, 26 00:01:27,570 --> 00:01:30,390 Adam Curry: Tom Swift. It was from the late I think it was. 27 00:01:31,140 --> 00:01:36,090 There wasn't even before 1900 Tom Swift. This is really old. I 28 00:01:36,090 --> 00:01:37,080 had no idea that 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,520 John C Dvorak: we have computers in front of 30 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:44,940 Adam Curry: us. Oh, okay. Well, if you want to do if we have to 31 00:01:44,940 --> 00:01:48,540 do that, it was Tom Swift and his electric grandmother Tom 32 00:01:48,540 --> 00:01:54,690 Swift and his. His flying 1910 Okay, I was close. Only only 33 00:01:55,170 --> 00:01:58,350 twins predates him. Oh, yeah. Victor Appleton. That's what is 34 00:01:58,350 --> 00:02:00,960 Victor Appleton wrote to Tom So the question 35 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,060 John C Dvorak: remains what is it mean when you say you look 36 00:02:03,060 --> 00:02:06,810 like the Bobbsey Twins, the Bobbsey Twins? were twins. It 37 00:02:06,810 --> 00:02:09,540 was just it's actually there are two sets of twins in the 38 00:02:09,540 --> 00:02:12,810 stories. One and they were any paternal? 39 00:02:13,050 --> 00:02:13,860 Adam Curry: Hey, kids. This 40 00:02:13,860 --> 00:02:17,730 John C Dvorak: is stuff you need to know. The main pair were 41 00:02:17,820 --> 00:02:25,110 paternal. Yeah. And so I was thinking about this. Because 42 00:02:25,110 --> 00:02:28,140 looking like the Bobbsey Twins doesn't mean you're dressed like 43 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:28,920 oh, 44 00:02:29,940 --> 00:02:32,160 Adam Curry: I mean, really? Because that's the way I was 45 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,230 interpreted, but maybe it's because you sound like like 46 00:02:34,230 --> 00:02:35,370 you're saying the same thing? 47 00:02:35,790 --> 00:02:39,510 John C Dvorak: No, it's when you're wearing kind of frilly 48 00:02:39,510 --> 00:02:42,030 girly stuff. And you're a boy. Oh, 49 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,910 Adam Curry: I don't know. Well, that's never the way I've used 50 00:02:44,910 --> 00:02:45,090 it. 51 00:02:45,150 --> 00:02:46,980 John C Dvorak: All you have to do is look at the covers of all 52 00:02:46,980 --> 00:02:49,470 these What did the Bobbsey Twins always look like? They're all 53 00:02:49,500 --> 00:02:53,550 free wearing really really crappy. They look like really 54 00:02:53,550 --> 00:02:54,540 crappy Bobbsey 55 00:02:54,810 --> 00:02:58,620 Adam Curry: Twins. They looked like the Bobbsey Twins. Wow. A 56 00:02:58,620 --> 00:03:01,260 lot to discuss today. Remember, remember the fifth of November 57 00:03:01,260 --> 00:03:05,610 gunpowder treason and plot, which seems to be forgotten. Is 58 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,420 he talking about this is this was the the plot on the British 59 00:03:09,420 --> 00:03:09,900 Parliament 60 00:03:09,900 --> 00:03:12,720 John C Dvorak: point that you know, I remember plot on the 61 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:13,740 British Parliament, 62 00:03:13,770 --> 00:03:16,950 Adam Curry: as documented in V for Victory where everyone got 63 00:03:16,950 --> 00:03:20,730 the anonymous masks from Have we forgotten this already? Boy? 64 00:03:20,730 --> 00:03:25,800 Yeah, I guess so. Guy Fawkes Day. That's what it is. Will we 65 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,550 still be lighting stuff up in the UK doubtful leaves to have 66 00:03:29,550 --> 00:03:33,780 bonfires doubtful. Can't do that anymore. That will be against 67 00:03:33,780 --> 00:03:35,010 the law. Because 68 00:03:35,010 --> 00:03:37,350 John C Dvorak: no, it's polluting the climate 69 00:03:37,350 --> 00:03:41,400 Adam Curry: change. In addition, speaking of change, we had 70 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,920 daylight saving time change. 71 00:03:44,310 --> 00:03:45,840 John C Dvorak: We're doing this show at noon. 72 00:03:47,310 --> 00:03:51,690 Adam Curry: It's still unknown. We're doing the show at two. 73 00:03:52,140 --> 00:03:55,380 It's still unclear why the elites do this to us twice a 74 00:03:55,380 --> 00:04:00,090 year. It's actually screwed up. A an appointment I had earlier 75 00:04:00,090 --> 00:04:03,480 in the week because Europe changed last weekend. This is 76 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,790 this is what I've never understood. Why don't we all 77 00:04:05,790 --> 00:04:09,600 change on the same day globally? Do we have a different sun here 78 00:04:09,630 --> 00:04:10,500 than we have in 79 00:04:10,590 --> 00:04:12,780 John C Dvorak: UAE United Nations that determined this. 80 00:04:12,780 --> 00:04:14,340 You want one world government? 81 00:04:16,050 --> 00:04:18,600 Adam Curry: I'm on the fence. I mean, no. I don't want world one 82 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,550 world government. And there's still 83 00:04:20,790 --> 00:04:22,350 John C Dvorak: you're advocating right here. 84 00:04:22,380 --> 00:04:26,400 Adam Curry: Oh, you are feisty today. AirDog. There is there is 85 00:04:28,410 --> 00:04:32,790 still no honest no one answer to this. This hoax that they 86 00:04:32,790 --> 00:04:33,690 perpetrate upon 87 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,500 John C Dvorak: Arizona. They got their own time. Would they have 88 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:40,890 Oh, complete warp. They're like, whatever time it is there. It's 89 00:04:40,890 --> 00:04:43,080 nowhere else. It's insane. 90 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,910 Adam Curry: It's insane. Before we get into everything today, 91 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,630 I'd like to read a note from Knight Andrew, you received this 92 00:04:51,630 --> 00:04:54,270 note as well. I think it's important that we just discussed 93 00:04:54,270 --> 00:04:55,350 this for a moment. 94 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,380 John C Dvorak: Oh, that's this is not the good note. 95 00:04:58,530 --> 00:05:00,000 Adam Curry: This is the good note. Yeah, this is the good 96 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:00,540 Good note. 97 00:05:01,050 --> 00:05:03,270 John C Dvorak: No the good notes call it new doing it causes 98 00:05:03,270 --> 00:05:04,110 dipshits 99 00:05:05,460 --> 00:05:08,220 Adam Curry: No, we didn't call us dipshits. Take a look at what 100 00:05:08,220 --> 00:05:11,250 you've become. That's I think that was that's what that note 101 00:05:11,250 --> 00:05:16,650 was. No, this is from Knight Andrew. And it's good because we 102 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:19,350 have been doing this for 16 years we've seen this come and 103 00:05:19,350 --> 00:05:24,480 go. It's gotten progressively worse the divide and conquer 104 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:31,050 strategy of the global elitist, evil, whatever that is. And it's 105 00:05:31,050 --> 00:05:35,040 just as taking hold to such a degree that that some people are 106 00:05:35,100 --> 00:05:37,740 just falling right off the edge. They 107 00:05:37,740 --> 00:05:40,890 John C Dvorak: do it a drop of a hat at the drop of a hat. All of 108 00:05:40,890 --> 00:05:42,390 our work goes for naught. 109 00:05:43,470 --> 00:05:46,260 Adam Curry: We've never been right about anything. How 110 00:05:46,260 --> 00:05:49,500 quickly they forget. So night Andrew says I've been meaning to 111 00:05:49,500 --> 00:05:52,290 write you for a few weeks now. When you guys began your review 112 00:05:52,290 --> 00:05:56,640 of the Israel Hamas conflict I was rather disgusted. And how 113 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:01,230 you both blithely good word blithely is a good word blithely 114 00:06:01,260 --> 00:06:03,150 What does blithely mean? blithely it 115 00:06:03,150 --> 00:06:04,620 John C Dvorak: means nonchalantly Don 116 00:06:04,620 --> 00:06:07,590 Adam Curry: Shula blithely spoke about the atrocities Hamas 117 00:06:07,590 --> 00:06:11,730 perpetrated even questioning the veracity of stories and videos, 118 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,410 visual evidence, appreciating no agenda over the past year since 119 00:06:16,410 --> 00:06:20,640 2020. Since you night Andrew is relatively new, and specifically 120 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,460 your person your perspective on many controversial things. I was 121 00:06:23,460 --> 00:06:26,430 dismayed the way you guys approach this topic. I 122 00:06:26,430 --> 00:06:28,740 understand there have been other debatable topics that people 123 00:06:28,740 --> 00:06:33,210 have gone overboard for less, would this be the straw for me? 124 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,780 One of the initial episodes reviewing the heinous act of 125 00:06:36,780 --> 00:06:40,260 Hamas You both seem to challenge the veracity of claims of babies 126 00:06:40,260 --> 00:06:43,680 being beheaded and such and no agenda one from the highlight of 127 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:50,280 my listens to my Kate listen. When I was in college, I called 128 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:52,740 my mother during a mild snowstorm she told me how my 129 00:06:52,740 --> 00:06:56,010 sister younger than me, had gone out in the snow driving to her 130 00:06:56,010 --> 00:06:59,910 boyfriend's house, he wasn't a lowlife, a worthless fellow. On 131 00:06:59,910 --> 00:07:07,380 her way she built from blithely to a novel, I like it. On her 132 00:07:07,380 --> 00:07:10,260 way, she crashed on the interstate, totally her car, she 133 00:07:10,260 --> 00:07:13,350 was all right, but my mother indicted my sister, if she'd 134 00:07:13,380 --> 00:07:16,890 only listened, this wouldn't have happened. From that point 135 00:07:16,890 --> 00:07:19,620 on, I decided not to give another person the power of 136 00:07:19,620 --> 00:07:23,430 saying I told you so. Especially when I respect that person given 137 00:07:23,430 --> 00:07:27,330 their insight and reputation. I'm not likely to heed some 138 00:07:27,330 --> 00:07:30,900 randos advice though, anyway, when everything within me was 139 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:34,140 revolting to continue to listen to no agenda during that initial 140 00:07:34,140 --> 00:07:37,200 segment, I remembered the many letters and stories you have 141 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,440 shared about weak minded and weak spirited people who were 142 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,110 lost overboard because they heard something they didn't 143 00:07:43,110 --> 00:07:46,590 like. I did not want to be like them the value and insight 144 00:07:46,590 --> 00:07:50,550 you've provided to me outweighed this offense. I didn't quit 145 00:07:50,550 --> 00:07:53,250 listening then and I'm still up to date. Thank you for the work, 146 00:07:53,550 --> 00:07:56,910 understanding and appreciating the eluded point that you guys 147 00:07:56,910 --> 00:08:01,050 are trying to be objective and question everything. You guys 148 00:08:01,050 --> 00:08:05,490 weren't exactly trying to to two sides this as much as saying 149 00:08:05,580 --> 00:08:10,320 nothing can be trusted Exactly. The Lord uses various means to 150 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,780 bring people and keep people for himself and salvation. 151 00:08:12,780 --> 00:08:16,560 Similarly, reading often hate letters of douchebags who become 152 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,190 radicalized is strangely a means of keeping me listening and 153 00:08:20,190 --> 00:08:24,450 ultimately, keeping my sanity. Sincerely and grateful night, 154 00:08:24,450 --> 00:08:27,750 Andrew and I want to thank you for that. And I want to just 155 00:08:27,750 --> 00:08:31,950 respond quickly. Because the one thing you know, Alex Jones, the 156 00:08:31,950 --> 00:08:34,650 one thing I've always been envious about is that he has 157 00:08:34,680 --> 00:08:39,420 Infowars because that's really what's going on Info Wars and 158 00:08:39,420 --> 00:08:43,410 he's gone way beyond that. But the information wars that go on 159 00:08:43,410 --> 00:08:46,530 for our minds all day long is really what we're dealing with. 160 00:08:46,530 --> 00:08:50,160 We still I would say we are maybe not you, but the rest of 161 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,490 us all have trauma worldwide from COVID From lockdowns and 162 00:08:53,490 --> 00:08:57,600 it's used to control you. This trauma is particularly people 163 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,090 who are you know, who say they're woke and aren't 164 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,350 obviously woke that's it truly is MK Ultra without the drugs 165 00:09:04,350 --> 00:09:07,950 and they probably have the drugs with SSRIs, etc. No agenda 166 00:09:07,950 --> 00:09:12,480 listeners are just as susceptible. The people now in 167 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:20,370 Paris, London, New York, Rome. The people protesting for 168 00:09:20,370 --> 00:09:24,960 Palestine are the very same people who told you to die for 169 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,710 not being vaccinated or wearing a mask who were allowed to riot 170 00:09:28,710 --> 00:09:32,610 and burn for BLM during COVID restrictions when no one else 171 00:09:32,610 --> 00:09:35,940 was allowed out. Remember that the peaceful protest who accused 172 00:09:36,030 --> 00:09:39,990 many of you for committing genocide and LGBTQ people for 173 00:09:39,990 --> 00:09:44,040 not buying into the gender fluidity bullcrap who support 174 00:09:44,070 --> 00:09:48,000 annihilating Russia from the economic world and using all 175 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,540 weapons available to remove them from the map? What is these are 176 00:09:51,540 --> 00:09:55,380 the same people who are hysterical about climate change, 177 00:09:55,740 --> 00:09:58,590 which is about the fifth version of this blatant lie in my 178 00:09:58,590 --> 00:10:02,700 lifetime. It was global cooling global warming then that didn't 179 00:10:02,700 --> 00:10:06,480 work out when a climate change. It's also the same people who 180 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,700 are going to move to Canada because Trump would destroy 181 00:10:08,700 --> 00:10:14,430 America. being abused, being abused by forces, it doesn't 182 00:10:14,430 --> 00:10:18,450 come down to one individual or group, online video and five M 183 00:10:18,450 --> 00:10:23,280 social media. Yes, even no agenda social without algos are 184 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:28,920 perfect carriers for this trauma based entertainment. So we've do 185 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,560 our best not to pick sides in any of the things that we've 186 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:34,860 been through. And it's been a lot. We do want to show you that 187 00:10:34,860 --> 00:10:39,690 all sides are full of crap. The meanwhile pay attention to your 188 00:10:39,690 --> 00:10:41,970 own community where you live. Have you been to a city 189 00:10:41,970 --> 00:10:45,960 recently? Have you taken a look around? It's not just New York 190 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,690 or Chicago, the other people that are hanging down like 191 00:10:48,690 --> 00:10:53,580 zombies. From tranq and fentanyl, it's in London. It's 192 00:10:53,580 --> 00:10:57,660 in Paris. It's an Amsterdam. But we're being taught to be 193 00:10:57,660 --> 00:11:04,710 obsessed over anything but your own your own situation. And it's 194 00:11:04,710 --> 00:11:06,900 all being abused by political powers. 195 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:11,640 John C Dvorak: I liked it. Hello dipshits letter better? Do 196 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:12,540 Adam Curry: you have it in front of you? 197 00:11:13,170 --> 00:11:14,100 John C Dvorak: I've been looking for 198 00:11:16,500 --> 00:11:22,290 Adam Curry: the dipshits letter. So you know, I mean there is a 199 00:11:22,290 --> 00:11:28,500 lot more going on besides Israel and Hamas but oh my goodness are 200 00:11:28,500 --> 00:11:32,010 we getting out of control with the Jew hate the Arab hate the 201 00:11:32,010 --> 00:11:35,370 people hate? This is just you know, check you out. 202 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,630 John C Dvorak: This is never ending this was when I was a kid 203 00:11:39,630 --> 00:11:43,350 when I was in college. And I will say anybody out there who's 204 00:11:43,350 --> 00:11:47,460 like listening who's like a millennial or a Z when you're my 205 00:11:47,490 --> 00:11:51,660 age 70 You'll be hearing the same thing. 206 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,380 Adam Curry: Yep. Yeah, I'm I'm 60 and I'm already like you. 207 00:11:56,790 --> 00:11:58,500 This is that's 208 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:00,600 John C Dvorak: Bo and you're 70 You'll be hearing the same 209 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:01,770 thing. And 210 00:12:01,770 --> 00:12:06,360 Adam Curry: when I'm 70 I'll be 10 times worse than you Yeah, 211 00:12:06,900 --> 00:12:08,850 likely right does seem unlikely. 212 00:12:09,900 --> 00:12:11,430 John C Dvorak: I will say this about you though. I've 213 00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:14,220 discovered it aspect of your personality. Oh, is 214 00:12:14,220 --> 00:12:15,180 Adam Curry: this good or bad? Is 215 00:12:15,180 --> 00:12:17,670 John C Dvorak: this a slam? Yeah. where you're coming from? 216 00:12:17,670 --> 00:12:21,540 It's good to some and bad to others. So I've realized that 217 00:12:21,540 --> 00:12:24,570 you have the personality because when you play when you're 218 00:12:24,570 --> 00:12:27,690 playing the they're opening stuff and you get you hit the 219 00:12:27,690 --> 00:12:30,450 button and you become the Freddie the freeloader or 220 00:12:30,450 --> 00:12:36,480 whatever the fire hydrant guy and then the devil where you're 221 00:12:36,510 --> 00:12:39,840 you have the personality of a ventriloquist that isn't what a 222 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,400 ventriloquist would do. 223 00:12:42,660 --> 00:12:45,450 Adam Curry: Who are famous ventriloquist who was who was 224 00:12:45,450 --> 00:12:48,780 named some famous ventriloquist was weird owl, a ventriloquist. 225 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:51,630 Like he would have been a ventriloquist. No, 226 00:12:51,660 --> 00:12:55,560 John C Dvorak: no, no, there was Charlie McCarthy. Did Charlie 227 00:12:55,560 --> 00:13:00,810 McCarthy character the guy was the ventriloquist era. What's 228 00:13:00,810 --> 00:13:04,170 your name? The actress his dad was a ventriloquist and Jeff Don 229 00:13:04,170 --> 00:13:07,620 and I know Jeff Dunham, Jeff Dunn. Jeff Dunham's famous 230 00:13:08,010 --> 00:13:10,410 there's other ones that go back in time that are faint more 231 00:13:10,410 --> 00:13:15,000 famous in those days is a bunch of them Candice Bergen's dad. 232 00:13:15,330 --> 00:13:19,020 The I can't Bergen Edgar Bergen Edgar Bergen. Thank you, Joe. 233 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:22,650 Obama had his hand up Biden's but I was having trouble. Yes. 234 00:13:25,590 --> 00:13:28,530 Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Well, let's talk about 235 00:13:28,530 --> 00:13:32,700 some some protests for just a moment. And then I seen you have 236 00:13:32,700 --> 00:13:37,290 the Middle East situation clips. I just need I've, I've examined 237 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:42,120 the protests around the globe. And I have clips from TR T which 238 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,630 of course will give you the Arab perspective, also from France 239 00:13:45,630 --> 00:13:49,830 24, which who knows what their perspective is. Every single one 240 00:13:49,830 --> 00:13:53,460 of these protests has a lot of handmade signs, but overwhelming 241 00:13:53,460 --> 00:13:57,660 the the organization is in charge of either the socialist 242 00:13:57,660 --> 00:14:01,380 world party or the Socialist Workers Party. This is a 243 00:14:01,380 --> 00:14:05,250 complete, politically driven and organized event on a global 244 00:14:05,250 --> 00:14:07,830 scale. And they're pulling a lot off here. 245 00:14:07,860 --> 00:14:09,300 John C Dvorak: This is why they're doing it. 246 00:14:09,690 --> 00:14:11,910 Adam Curry: I think they're doing a fabulous very good job. 247 00:14:11,910 --> 00:14:14,550 Here's TRT This is Turkish radio and television. As the 248 00:14:14,550 --> 00:14:17,370 Unknown: humanitarian crisis in Gaza deepens international 249 00:14:17,370 --> 00:14:20,220 displays of anger grow louder. The fourth weekend of 250 00:14:20,220 --> 00:14:24,240 demonstrations in London saw 10s of 1000s descend on Trafalgar 251 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:29,010 Square. Watch across Europe and popular discontent Israel's 252 00:14:29,010 --> 00:14:32,490 bombardment of Gaza was visible. similar numbers were seen in 253 00:14:32,490 --> 00:14:36,300 Paris gathering near the Bastille in Berlin. Green and 254 00:14:36,300 --> 00:14:40,230 red smoke filled the roads where 1000s waved Palestinian flags 255 00:14:40,650 --> 00:14:44,430 and in Rome 1000s More walk behind banners calling the 256 00:14:44,430 --> 00:14:49,800 crisis in Gaza and apartheid. Outrage echoes through the 257 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,280 streets at the soaring civilian death toll of Palestinians. But 258 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,820 discontent here is rising to over how Western governments 259 00:14:56,850 --> 00:14:58,860 aren't dealing with the situation. They 260 00:14:58,860 --> 00:15:01,740 know they want to tell us We're not sure if these are war 261 00:15:01,740 --> 00:15:04,830 crimes. We think Israel has a right to defend itself. And then 262 00:15:04,830 --> 00:15:07,020 they have the problem that people are seeing on their TV 263 00:15:07,020 --> 00:15:10,710 screens, Palestinian children being pulled out of the rubble. 264 00:15:12,330 --> 00:15:15,240 Dozens have been arrested at protests in the UK over the last 265 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,630 four weeks. Authorities here and elsewhere, warning that 266 00:15:18,630 --> 00:15:22,020 protesters may be breaking the law by publicly supporting 267 00:15:22,050 --> 00:15:25,560 Hamas. British police have denied that tougher tactics have 268 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,110 been the result of government pressure. But there has been 269 00:15:28,110 --> 00:15:31,380 significant criticism about how governments are dealing with 270 00:15:31,380 --> 00:15:36,000 these protests. The UK Home Secretary Sweller Brockman has 271 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,600 called the demonstrations hate marches and seemingly accused 272 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,440 people of anti semitism that's come as anti semitic incidents 273 00:15:43,470 --> 00:15:46,470 have risen across the world. There's also been a rise in 274 00:15:46,470 --> 00:15:49,410 Islamophobia. The protests in London and elsewhere have 275 00:15:49,410 --> 00:15:53,220 repeatedly been described by police as largely peaceful, but 276 00:15:53,220 --> 00:15:56,100 tensions could rise further. marches are planned for November 277 00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:58,290 the 11th when Europe commemorates the end of the 278 00:15:58,290 --> 00:16:02,460 First World War and remembers those killed in combat. British 279 00:16:02,460 --> 00:16:05,490 Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has said a pro Palestinian protest 280 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,990 then would be provocative and disrespectful. Others however, 281 00:16:10,050 --> 00:16:12,600 have said the ultimate goal of government in Britain and 282 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,300 Perhaps Elsewhere, is to suppress these popular 283 00:16:15,300 --> 00:16:18,000 expressions of anger at what's happening in Gaza 284 00:16:18,030 --> 00:16:20,820 Adam Curry: have guaranteed next Sunday is going to kick off in 285 00:16:20,820 --> 00:16:26,160 the UK guarantee that's going to be a good old time and TRT. 286 00:16:26,190 --> 00:16:28,230 They're turning it political. Of course, 287 00:16:28,350 --> 00:16:31,260 Unknown: in Jordan, the US Secretary of State found no 288 00:16:31,260 --> 00:16:34,410 support for his country's position on the Israel Gaza war. 289 00:16:34,500 --> 00:16:37,020 Are we going to be talking about the wasteland? Are we going to 290 00:16:37,020 --> 00:16:41,160 be talking about a whole population reduced to refugees? 291 00:16:41,370 --> 00:16:45,330 Simply we do not know we do not have all the variables to even 292 00:16:45,330 --> 00:16:46,500 start thinking about that. 293 00:16:46,770 --> 00:16:49,800 But unlike his initial Middle East towards three weeks ago, 294 00:16:49,890 --> 00:16:53,340 Blinken repeatedly urged the protection of civilian lives, 295 00:16:53,460 --> 00:16:53,820 Israel 296 00:16:53,820 --> 00:16:56,790 must take every possible measure to prevent civilian casualties. 297 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,390 In my meetings with Israeli officials yesterday, I conveyed 298 00:17:00,420 --> 00:17:03,420 additional steps that they can and should take to do just that. 299 00:17:03,630 --> 00:17:06,330 protecting civilians will help prevent a mosque from further 300 00:17:06,330 --> 00:17:10,110 exploiting the situation. But most important, is simply the 301 00:17:10,110 --> 00:17:14,580 right and moral thing to do. But those words may be a moral way 302 00:17:14,580 --> 00:17:16,230 to wage war people a little too 303 00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:20,880 late now that almost 10,000 Palestinians are dead, public 304 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,110 opinion and the US has shifted. Some say they're just no longer 305 00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:28,890 fearful of speaking out. And you can see that here in Washington 306 00:17:28,890 --> 00:17:32,280 where 10s of 1000s have now come out to call not just for a 307 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,120 ceasefire, but they say freedom and equality for all 308 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:40,410 Palestinians in this crowd. Support for Joe Biden, in the 309 00:17:40,410 --> 00:17:42,930 Democrats has eroded fast genocide 310 00:17:42,930 --> 00:17:45,540 and Biden to go away. We need somebody who's actually for the 311 00:17:45,540 --> 00:17:50,640 people, not voting for Joe Biden. for Donald Trump, 312 00:17:51,180 --> 00:17:54,360 the White House is aware of the fierce backlash from minority 313 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:57,780 communities including Arabs and Muslims and key voting bloc that 314 00:17:57,780 --> 00:18:01,620 helped secure Biden's victory in 2020. The question now is what 315 00:18:01,620 --> 00:18:05,100 the President plans to do to regain their trust. This me 316 00:18:05,100 --> 00:18:08,160 knows about you TRT world Washington rero 317 00:18:08,790 --> 00:18:12,960 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, these are BLM people, the same people that 318 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,860 the Democrat Party weaponized, weaponized over and over and 319 00:18:16,860 --> 00:18:21,660 over again, continue to do so with trans Mouse. Oh, well, they 320 00:18:21,660 --> 00:18:24,060 lost control this my final report that I want to hear your 321 00:18:24,060 --> 00:18:28,140 clips, they definitely lost control. But this was, again 322 00:18:28,140 --> 00:18:33,810 Socialist Workers Party, the the US Palestinian community 323 00:18:33,810 --> 00:18:40,170 network, which is a very interesting organization. We 324 00:18:40,170 --> 00:18:43,440 organized around a number of campaigns including BDS, 325 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,400 boycott, divestment, and sanctions, political prisoner 326 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:54,090 advocacy, arts and culture events and tours. And they're 327 00:18:54,090 --> 00:18:58,020 part of the Westpac Foundation, which not that's where I 328 00:18:58,020 --> 00:19:00,930 couldn't get much further the Westpac is in Westchester 329 00:19:00,930 --> 00:19:05,910 County. They're the ones that are financing the US Palestinian 330 00:19:05,910 --> 00:19:11,250 community network. And they've been around since 1974. We're 331 00:19:11,250 --> 00:19:14,580 and the SSA themselves in the website since 1974. We've been 332 00:19:14,580 --> 00:19:18,300 educating, agitating and organizing for more just in a 333 00:19:18,300 --> 00:19:22,710 peaceful world, an end to middle militarism and racism and a more 334 00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:27,210 fair economy that works for all sound familiar? So here is the 335 00:19:27,210 --> 00:19:29,970 France 24 report because everybody had reported on the 336 00:19:29,970 --> 00:19:32,040 streets of Washington, DC. 337 00:19:32,070 --> 00:19:34,740 Unknown: Yeah, well, this is a much bigger process than 338 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,430 expected freedom Plaza, which is just behind me expected to have 339 00:19:38,430 --> 00:19:42,510 a couple of 1000 people there. 10s of 1000s showed up they are 340 00:19:42,510 --> 00:19:46,440 now marching down the streets away from the White House 341 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,100 heading towards the Capitol building kind of area. This is 342 00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:52,800 bigger than any other pro Palestine protest that I've seen 343 00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:56,700 in the two or so weeks that I've been covering these protests. Do 344 00:19:56,700 --> 00:19:59,040 you cover a couple that I've seen before were organized by 345 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,340 pro Jewish groups? This one is a much more broad coalition, a 346 00:20:02,340 --> 00:20:06,750 real mixture of people. We've seen a sea of flags here, people 347 00:20:06,750 --> 00:20:10,110 wearing the cavea headscarves that symbol of Palestinian 348 00:20:10,290 --> 00:20:13,890 resistance, and people praying in the streets lying down on 349 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,710 premises to pray to in the middle of this protest 350 00:20:16,710 --> 00:20:20,340 movements. We've seen lots of Palestinian Americans, but not 351 00:20:20,340 --> 00:20:23,640 just Palestinian Americans. There's been a significant chunk 352 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,550 of people here, who are young people that must be said, a lot 353 00:20:26,550 --> 00:20:30,330 of them have been under the age of 30, I would say, and also 354 00:20:30,330 --> 00:20:33,840 some Jewish groups as well who are showing support for the 355 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,650 Palestinian cause. We've also seen a couple of signs, say in 356 00:20:37,650 --> 00:20:41,430 Latinos for Palestine as well. So it really is quite a mixed 357 00:20:41,430 --> 00:20:45,750 bag of people here, who has showed up in Washington DC, the 358 00:20:45,750 --> 00:20:48,120 messages that these people have been carrying, you can see some 359 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:51,150 of them behind me are just as mixed as the people themselves. 360 00:20:51,150 --> 00:20:54,300 We've got everything from Free Palestine, that has been the 361 00:20:54,300 --> 00:20:58,890 main message of this movement to more extreme signs as well. But 362 00:20:58,980 --> 00:21:01,770 the main thing that people hear a call calling for is a 363 00:21:01,770 --> 00:21:05,550 ceasefire. Now we know that that is something that Joe Biden and 364 00:21:05,580 --> 00:21:09,150 President and Prime Minister Netanyahu have so far not agreed 365 00:21:09,150 --> 00:21:09,450 to. 366 00:21:10,350 --> 00:21:14,940 Adam Curry: It's it's people looking for ally ship. Whoa, 367 00:21:14,970 --> 00:21:19,410 when they were busing them in from Chicago, Chicago came in 368 00:21:19,410 --> 00:21:23,760 busing them in from Chicago. Yeah, that makes you wonder is 369 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:24,630 21 seconds 370 00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:27,060 John C Dvorak: from the point but busing in the ballots? 371 00:21:28,110 --> 00:21:29,850 Adam Curry: Here's a protester going nuts 372 00:21:43,260 --> 00:21:43,800 Unknown: children 373 00:21:50,790 --> 00:21:53,400 Adam Curry: man that the baby stuff that that's really what 374 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:58,320 got people the and the ripping babies from wombs, the beheading 375 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,800 babies, the burning babies, using them as hockey pucks, 376 00:22:01,950 --> 00:22:03,330 whatever you could make up. 377 00:22:03,900 --> 00:22:06,510 John C Dvorak: That shame bitching about the babies 378 00:22:06,540 --> 00:22:07,740 blowing up babies. 379 00:22:07,770 --> 00:22:10,020 Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, yeah. killing babies killing babies. 380 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,100 Babies. Babies always works. 381 00:22:15,060 --> 00:22:16,440 John C Dvorak: Yeah, babies is a winner. 382 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:20,430 Adam Curry: It doesn't matter whether it's true or not. We're 383 00:22:20,430 --> 00:22:20,610 gonna 384 00:22:20,610 --> 00:22:23,910 John C Dvorak: marry some woman go and see a baby around her go. 385 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,330 Oh, I love babies. Boom. 386 00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:32,280 Adam Curry: Is that how you got Mimi? No. No, 387 00:22:32,910 --> 00:22:34,020 John C Dvorak: I'm just telling you it works. 388 00:22:34,050 --> 00:22:36,060 Adam Curry: That's the story for another word for story for 389 00:22:36,060 --> 00:22:40,890 another day. So um, yeah. So what do you got? You have a lot 390 00:22:40,890 --> 00:22:40,950 of 391 00:22:41,340 --> 00:22:43,080 John C Dvorak: you want to go back to the guy call his 392 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:48,750 dipshits. And then he bitched about, found the letter? No, I 393 00:22:48,750 --> 00:22:52,680 can't find it. I don't know why. I thought I put it aside but I 394 00:22:52,980 --> 00:22:53,220 was 395 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,490 Adam Curry: the one in response to the newsletter is not the 396 00:22:56,490 --> 00:22:57,450 one. Yeah, 397 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,580 John C Dvorak: because he didn't like Hanson to Victor David 398 00:22:59,580 --> 00:23:02,850 Hanson, which I put in there too. It's an hour lecture and he 399 00:23:02,850 --> 00:23:07,080 says war war war. You guys have lost your touch is weird. We're 400 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,560 all for war. When the victor David Hansen thing was not about 401 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,520 war. It was about mentalities. And it had a bunch of 402 00:23:14,610 --> 00:23:19,020 interesting insights. If you could sit down and watch spend 403 00:23:19,020 --> 00:23:22,740 an hour listening to him if you can put up with him. I his 404 00:23:22,740 --> 00:23:29,460 presentation is somewhat droll, but I have one clip from the 405 00:23:29,460 --> 00:23:31,140 Adam Curry: email here. Would you like me to read it? Oh, yes, 406 00:23:31,140 --> 00:23:37,590 please read dipshits have your head so deep up your ass is on 407 00:23:37,620 --> 00:23:41,490 ISRAEL PALESTINE. You literally literally said this a Victor 408 00:23:41,490 --> 00:23:46,170 Davis Hanson video and told I said God, please look at what 409 00:23:46,170 --> 00:23:50,700 you've become. This is a straight hour of war propaganda. 410 00:23:52,170 --> 00:23:53,580 Yeah. Well, 411 00:23:53,580 --> 00:23:55,260 John C Dvorak: he obviously didn't listen to this. No, 412 00:23:55,260 --> 00:23:57,870 Adam Curry: he didn't because I am definitely not a fan of 413 00:23:57,870 --> 00:24:02,700 Victor Davis Hanson. But what he explained is literally what I 414 00:24:02,700 --> 00:24:08,160 just explained right now it is the we have radicalized in 415 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,010 universities, certainly in the United States, but probably 416 00:24:11,010 --> 00:24:15,210 around the world, but without a doubt, the higher education and 417 00:24:15,210 --> 00:24:19,680 I saw that I saw this as my stepdaughters. The programming 418 00:24:19,710 --> 00:24:23,340 is so strong and it's been going on for a long time. Oh, 419 00:24:23,340 --> 00:24:25,200 John C Dvorak: yeah, it was going on when I was at Cal 420 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,310 Berkeley. And I didn't I mean I broke out of it obviously I'm 421 00:24:29,310 --> 00:24:31,860 not to following that those things anymore but I was 422 00:24:33,390 --> 00:24:37,920 accidentally taught how to think so I ended up breaking away from 423 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,550 but they were arguing the Palestinians and and so this I 424 00:24:41,550 --> 00:24:44,250 only have the one clip I could have clipped a lot of the Hansen 425 00:24:44,250 --> 00:24:48,060 thing but it's so and it's it takes so much massaging because 426 00:24:48,060 --> 00:24:50,430 he's he's talking like this. Then he talks like this and he's 427 00:24:50,430 --> 00:24:53,460 talking like it's up and down and you got to go in and boost 428 00:24:53,460 --> 00:24:56,430 it and drop it in a nightmare. And he 429 00:24:56,580 --> 00:24:59,370 Adam Curry: had all of the memes in there. By the way. He had all 430 00:24:59,370 --> 00:25:03,900 of the beheading babies and all that stuff. And he, he was using 431 00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:08,070 that, but beside that his message about the universities 432 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,690 and how this group and the previous group and from what 433 00:25:12,690 --> 00:25:16,140 you're saying the group before that have all been mind 434 00:25:16,140 --> 00:25:21,180 controlled and it's part of the anti colonialism. Like I'm an 435 00:25:21,180 --> 00:25:24,210 American, but I'm a colonialist. I'm bad, I'm white, I'm 436 00:25:24,210 --> 00:25:25,080 horrible. 437 00:25:25,380 --> 00:25:28,620 John C Dvorak: So he makes the point there's the also the anti 438 00:25:28,650 --> 00:25:32,670 he says the proportionality he makes it, but this is not the 439 00:25:32,670 --> 00:25:36,240 clip. I'm gonna play the clip I'm gonna play as about Hamas. 440 00:25:36,540 --> 00:25:40,050 But but he also talked about something I thought was very 441 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,280 profound a way he pointed out that Blinken and Biden are 442 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:49,710 telling the Jews to be careful, be proportionate. unfortunate, 443 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,330 but Ukraine 444 00:25:51,330 --> 00:25:53,790 Adam Curry: meanwhile, go ahead kill him. Let's do as much 445 00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:57,450 Russian Russians must die. Here's some more cool new 446 00:25:57,450 --> 00:26:01,740 weapons we got. What do you drink? Your drink? You just open 447 00:26:01,740 --> 00:26:02,250 your drink? 448 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,300 John C Dvorak: I did nothing. 449 00:26:03,330 --> 00:26:05,490 Adam Curry: I thought I heard a drink open. I'm sorry. Can you 450 00:26:05,490 --> 00:26:05,760 guys 451 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,710 John C Dvorak: a train coming? Maybe you're going to train Hong 452 00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:13,680 Kong it sounds like a drink. So so he points out he says the 453 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,580 only reason this could possibly exist as destroying our attitude 454 00:26:17,580 --> 00:26:24,870 toward Ukraine into one toward Israel is Jew hate. The American 455 00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:29,280 government hates Jews and or the Democratic Party does somebody 456 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,970 does. And I think this this clip I have here, which talks about 457 00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:37,950 how do hate is really at the basis for this, this whole thing 458 00:26:37,950 --> 00:26:41,310 is not these got nothing to do with anything else. And it's 459 00:26:41,310 --> 00:26:44,520 extremely disappointing if any of this is true, because it's 460 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,000 like kids, you know, we went through the we had we were still 461 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,090 putting up with discussions about the Holocaust. We thought 462 00:26:51,090 --> 00:26:53,970 we'd get over that. And the Jews are, you know, they would 463 00:26:53,970 --> 00:26:56,640 they're obviously not running the media or you wouldn't be 464 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:02,550 having this kind of discussion. down the drain, they're 465 00:27:02,550 --> 00:27:03,720 Adam Curry: not running it. Well. 466 00:27:04,290 --> 00:27:07,890 John C Dvorak: They're not doing a very good job. So let's listen 467 00:27:07,890 --> 00:27:12,330 to this analysis of of, and I'll tell you the thesis and you can 468 00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:16,050 kind of pick it out of here. But the thesis is that Hamas was 469 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,790 becoming unpopular in Gaza until they decided to start killing 470 00:27:20,790 --> 00:27:24,450 Jews, the entire population all the Palestinians and I believe 471 00:27:24,450 --> 00:27:29,520 this could easily be true. The Palestinians hate Jews. They 472 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,760 just hate him. And and I've said on the previous show, the Jews 473 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,570 don't like the Arabs either. So we have this. This cross. You 474 00:27:36,570 --> 00:27:39,810 know, this Hatfield McCoy thing going on? That 475 00:27:40,050 --> 00:27:44,100 Adam Curry: is never for ever since forever. You and I were on 476 00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:48,420 the earth. 2000 years this has been going on for ever. 477 00:27:50,430 --> 00:27:51,810 John C Dvorak: Pants Here we go. Hanson 478 00:27:51,810 --> 00:27:53,310 Adam Curry: on Hamas i bar that's the one. 479 00:27:54,060 --> 00:27:57,390 Unknown: Yeah, yes, there are a lot of innocent Gazans but the 480 00:27:57,390 --> 00:28:02,190 1988 charter predated that election and the charter, it 481 00:28:02,190 --> 00:28:06,270 says that they're not interested in negotiations. They're 482 00:28:06,270 --> 00:28:10,020 interested in jihad to destroy Israel, and they voted for it. 483 00:28:10,260 --> 00:28:15,840 And yes, it is corrupt. And yes, it's true. As a recent article, 484 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,930 I think this week in foreign affairs pointed out that the 485 00:28:18,930 --> 00:28:24,270 popularity of Hamas is declined. But was the popularity of Hamas 486 00:28:24,270 --> 00:28:30,450 declining because it was corrupt? It didn't give services 487 00:28:30,510 --> 00:28:35,010 or was it not sufficiently killing Jews? My point is this 488 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,960 is that when they went in to Israel, this unpopular 489 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,160 supposedly hated government, which were told, if Israel bombs 490 00:28:44,190 --> 00:28:47,130 Hamas sites in Gaza, you're going to alienate them and make 491 00:28:47,130 --> 00:28:50,040 them like Hamas, but they don't like them. Now, if they don't 492 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,700 like them so much. Why did hundreds follow through the hole 493 00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:56,640 in the fence kind of like irregulars that followed the 494 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,990 Gestapo and Eastern Europe? And they tagged along to rape and to 495 00:29:00,990 --> 00:29:04,590 loot and to take captives? And why when they brought captives 496 00:29:04,590 --> 00:29:07,290 in the streets of Gaza? Why couldn't you just find one 497 00:29:07,290 --> 00:29:11,160 Gasan, who intervened and said don't desecrate that Israeli 498 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,300 corpse? Do not that poor woman is bleeding from her genital 499 00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:20,100 area do not spit at her, not one, not one. And so the 500 00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:25,200 argument that there's a captive Gazan population that is furious 501 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,800 at Hamas, and you're only going to drive them close to Hamas 502 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,770 when they otherwise would reject them. I don't see any evidence 503 00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:35,640 for I see a lot of evidence that say, I like Hamas now because 504 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,550 they finally went out and did something and that do something 505 00:29:38,550 --> 00:29:42,150 is killing Jews on the offensive and they were giddy about it. 506 00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:46,260 And the people who support them in the West, were giddy about 507 00:29:46,260 --> 00:29:50,190 it. Again, it took them a nanosecond to go yes, fly the 508 00:29:50,190 --> 00:29:53,010 flag Jew killing Jews. Finally, 509 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,970 Adam Curry: perception is reality and here he began he's 510 00:29:56,970 --> 00:30:00,270 with the the genitals bleeding from the genitals whichever We 511 00:30:00,270 --> 00:30:02,610 don't know exactly what was going on there. But that's 512 00:30:02,610 --> 00:30:07,830 beside the point. But he is responding to telegram videos. 513 00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:11,850 Who knows? I mean, that's that's the information war that I'm 514 00:30:11,850 --> 00:30:15,060 talking about. So maybe they were Yeah, well, maybe. 515 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,060 John C Dvorak: I think I think reels point is a real 516 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,280 exclamation point was the fact that once this happened, the 517 00:30:23,310 --> 00:30:26,910 protests in the United States cropped up immediately. Yeah, 518 00:30:26,940 --> 00:30:30,930 with flags with pre printed signs the whole thing across the 519 00:30:30,930 --> 00:30:33,660 country, and they were all you know, cheering 520 00:30:33,690 --> 00:30:37,140 Adam Curry: we really missed out on the no agenda shop with those 521 00:30:37,140 --> 00:30:40,740 scarves. What an opportunity missed. 522 00:30:41,340 --> 00:30:42,510 John C Dvorak: scarves, what 523 00:30:42,510 --> 00:30:45,390 Adam Curry: an opportunity, those things the flight is 524 00:30:45,390 --> 00:30:51,120 selling like hotcakes. But not just America. And, you know, for 525 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:56,820 Germans, this is this is polarizing. This is an you know, 526 00:30:56,820 --> 00:31:01,470 and part of what's happening is because of the millions millions 527 00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:06,060 of illegal migrants they have allowed to come into their 528 00:31:06,060 --> 00:31:10,350 country. But when it starts happening in Austria, 529 00:31:12,450 --> 00:31:15,480 Unknown: Vienna central cemetery, the second biggest in 530 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,860 Europe, a fire destroyed a room in the Jewish part on a wall 531 00:31:19,860 --> 00:31:24,810 close by anti semitic writing. A shock for Austria, is 532 00:31:28,050 --> 00:31:31,410 it's really a despicable act of anti semitism towards the 533 00:31:31,410 --> 00:31:33,360 disease is something outrageous. 534 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:34,740 The Newton 535 00:31:35,790 --> 00:31:39,750 phyllanthus is today are very worried many are afraid to be 536 00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:40,920 recognized in the street. 537 00:31:41,220 --> 00:31:44,160 As you'll notice as a council. Since 538 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,970 the Hamas attack on Israel anti semitic acts have multiplied in 539 00:31:47,970 --> 00:31:51,360 Austria. Benjamin Nagler has been recording such incidents 540 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,890 for four years, and he's noticed a marked increase in 100. From 541 00:31:55,890 --> 00:32:00,510 organizations we have recorded and verified to 165x since the 542 00:32:00,510 --> 00:32:04,170 seventh of October, that's four times as many as during the same 543 00:32:04,170 --> 00:32:07,410 period last year. We have insults especially on the 544 00:32:07,410 --> 00:32:10,860 internet, but also physical attacks and harassment to fully 545 00:32:10,860 --> 00:32:14,460 hardened tongues as a sign of support. 1000s of people 546 00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:17,640 gathered two days ago to denounce anti semitism while 547 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,570 recalling the participation of Austria in Nazi crimes, the 548 00:32:21,570 --> 00:32:21,930 avant 549 00:32:21,930 --> 00:32:24,780 eylea We all thought such things would never happen again, 550 00:32:24,810 --> 00:32:28,140 especially in Vienna. Because Austria carries a high burden of 551 00:32:28,140 --> 00:32:31,800 guilt, I should have seen how many fans, we have a 552 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,850 responsibility that transfers from generation to generation to 553 00:32:35,850 --> 00:32:38,640 show that we learned from the aura that was guilty and asked 554 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,750 him for a ban. In 555 00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:43,320 the face of the threat Austria has raised its terrorism alert 556 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,020 level and as increased protection of Jewish 557 00:32:46,020 --> 00:32:48,060 institutions. It's 558 00:32:48,060 --> 00:32:53,340 Adam Curry: really unbelievable. I grew up in these countries. 559 00:32:54,330 --> 00:32:56,850 It's like no, we can never let that how did that happen? This? 560 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,080 How was it possible? That, that we all started to hate the Jews? 561 00:33:01,110 --> 00:33:02,250 How was it possible? 562 00:33:02,490 --> 00:33:04,890 John C Dvorak: We didn't nothing. This hasn't changed as 563 00:33:04,890 --> 00:33:07,980 always immigrants that they brought in. It's almost like a 564 00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:14,760 scheme colored the plan. And in fact, the picture David Hanson 565 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,620 near the end of that lecture, when he talks about the 566 00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:22,440 universities, how they've been used, served by the Green Card 567 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,020 kids who have been brought over from the Middle East and you 568 00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:30,120 know, let the loud to go nuts. And it's about time and this has 569 00:33:30,180 --> 00:33:33,270 to happen in a couple of hearings in the I think it was 570 00:33:33,270 --> 00:33:38,040 in the Senate about to my yoga because he had one of his 571 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,320 employees. I don't have a clip of that. I should have gotten a 572 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,910 clip of yarkas. Yeah, may York has got one employee who went 573 00:33:44,910 --> 00:33:47,610 off the deep end condemning Jews. 574 00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:50,310 Adam Curry: You don't have that clip. What 575 00:33:51,810 --> 00:33:53,490 John C Dvorak: I guess I should have had that clip. That was 576 00:33:53,490 --> 00:33:59,610 mistake. Anyway. A Holly's just going after my crazy and he 577 00:33:59,610 --> 00:34:05,460 won't fire the woman while she's on administer, paid leave. And 578 00:34:06,060 --> 00:34:10,230 it's but she's but you know, she's another She's. She's not a 579 00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:14,070 Towner. If you bring a bunch of out of towners in here who hate 580 00:34:14,070 --> 00:34:20,100 Jews, and then they hate Jews as a result. Who's to blame? 581 00:34:20,130 --> 00:34:22,980 Adam Curry: What's that? What's Chuck Schumer's take on all 582 00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:27,750 this? Where's he? House? I don't see much of Chuck 583 00:34:27,749 --> 00:34:30,059 John C Dvorak: Schumer is a Democrat that he's probably 584 00:34:30,059 --> 00:34:34,799 relies on votes from jus aiders as my guest. 585 00:34:35,340 --> 00:34:38,610 Adam Curry: By the way, I just want to say people you can stop 586 00:34:38,610 --> 00:34:42,000 with Albert, the Albert Pike letter. Have you heard this? I 587 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,450 think we've probably dealt with this before. No, Albert Pike 588 00:34:45,450 --> 00:34:48,840 wrote a lot of letters. And supposedly he wrote a letter 589 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,960 that said there'll be three world wars and everything that's 590 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,500 happening now is that exact letter. That letter I have not 591 00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:59,040 been able to find if you can find the so called three world 592 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,520 wars letter from Al word play, please send it to me and show me 593 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,970 a good origin story because I have not been able to find this 594 00:35:05,970 --> 00:35:08,670 probably be I think it's bullcrap. I think it is. 595 00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:12,990 John C Dvorak: Whatever happened to Nostradamus? Yes. 596 00:35:15,509 --> 00:35:17,219 Adam Curry: He hasn't had something right in a while 597 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,700 know the White House is they have a national strategy. And 598 00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:27,660 they're straddling. 599 00:35:28,740 --> 00:35:31,590 John C Dvorak: It's like well, Darren dig dig out issues 600 00:35:31,590 --> 00:35:36,330 because yes, because they got the squad who are all Jew haters 601 00:35:36,330 --> 00:35:42,390 just call it what it is. They are I mean, you don't make an 602 00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:47,700 argue that and where they always thought, No, we don't do just 603 00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:50,490 hey, Israel and all Jews in Israel should die. 604 00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:53,640 Adam Curry: AOC is just dumb. You just don't She's 605 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,870 John C Dvorak: dumb. It's 606 00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:59,760 Adam Curry: all but I think the true learnings comes from 607 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:05,040 America bad anti colonialism, and that's just exported into 608 00:36:05,220 --> 00:36:10,980 well, clearly, that's, you know, clearly the Israeli state was 609 00:36:10,980 --> 00:36:15,240 just a colonial move. And it's the very people who that they 610 00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:20,310 love United Nations did this. I know literally did this 611 00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:21,300 John C Dvorak: the joke of it 612 00:36:21,330 --> 00:36:25,740 Adam Curry: ah, and part of it was because of the last cycle of 613 00:36:25,740 --> 00:36:29,460 jus hate, you know, I sorry about the trains and everything. 614 00:36:29,550 --> 00:36:34,260 Here's a country, here's a country, and we'll call it the 615 00:36:34,290 --> 00:36:42,000 we'll call it a day. So, you know, but but the Ottoman Empire 616 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:48,090 is not even taught anymore. It's just overlooked. And this and 617 00:36:48,090 --> 00:36:52,140 I'm a little tired of it's a genocide. It's almost like, you 618 00:36:52,140 --> 00:36:56,520 know, certain terms have been overused, like knots again, 619 00:36:56,580 --> 00:37:01,140 John C Dvorak: like, hour long lecture. Hanson has a very good 620 00:37:01,140 --> 00:37:04,800 explanation for why this is a bad term in these situations. 621 00:37:06,030 --> 00:37:08,280 Adam Curry: Well, I mean, when you when when we're told that, 622 00:37:08,340 --> 00:37:11,400 you know, trying stopping children from being medically 623 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:16,680 castrated without their parents consent, is LGBTQ genocide, 624 00:37:16,980 --> 00:37:21,660 these terms lose their meaning they lose their meaning. That's 625 00:37:21,660 --> 00:37:21,690 a 626 00:37:22,770 --> 00:37:25,140 John C Dvorak: local phenomenon. Yeah, it's not 627 00:37:25,170 --> 00:37:27,570 Adam Curry: it's not vocal. It's pretty local. 628 00:37:27,570 --> 00:37:29,280 John C Dvorak: That is everywhere. 629 00:37:29,370 --> 00:37:30,120 Adam Curry: It's all over. 630 00:37:30,750 --> 00:37:34,860 John C Dvorak: Genocide aspect of the LGBTQ plus, plus, plus, 631 00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:38,910 seems pretty localized to me. I'm not seeing the kind of tick 632 00:37:38,910 --> 00:37:42,300 tock videos coming out of Argentina that are bitching and 633 00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:43,230 moaning about it. 634 00:37:43,770 --> 00:37:46,350 Adam Curry: I do have a tick tock video thing about this, 635 00:37:46,380 --> 00:37:55,830 this watch. Yeah, this is. Again, it's TR T little 636 00:37:55,830 --> 00:38:01,110 compilation they got from tick tock, a very good looking Jewish 637 00:38:01,140 --> 00:38:02,760 American girls. I 638 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,460 Unknown: was taught that Israel were the victims and that these 639 00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:07,410 Palestinian people were like, almost like these annoying 640 00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:10,590 people who would not leave them alone. As I keep researching and 641 00:38:10,590 --> 00:38:14,100 learning about what's happening in Palestine right now. 642 00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:18,900 This is a calling to all Jews who 643 00:38:18,900 --> 00:38:23,130 support Palestine, when did you realize that the Zionist 644 00:38:23,130 --> 00:38:25,290 mythology of Israel 645 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,220 was a lie? And why do so many Jews support Israel despite it 646 00:38:29,220 --> 00:38:33,570 committing war crimes against Palestinians? And the truth is, 647 00:38:33,870 --> 00:38:36,450 we're not fed accurate information? 648 00:38:37,020 --> 00:38:39,720 Because despite all these things that are happening in Gaza, I've 649 00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:42,630 not seen any footage of Palestinian people, per se 650 00:38:42,660 --> 00:38:46,050 Jewish people or Israeli people seeing what is happening in 651 00:38:46,050 --> 00:38:51,450 Palestine right now. And seeing how these Palestinians literally 652 00:38:51,780 --> 00:38:56,040 are thanking God as they're losing everything, I wouldn't be 653 00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,030 questioning my faith. If my entire family just got wiped 654 00:39:00,030 --> 00:39:03,300 off. I need to figure that out. Because I'm intrigued. 655 00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:05,640 Adam Curry: I mean, you've got to question the algorithms that 656 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,440 these girls are trapped into at this point. I'm research same 657 00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:12,330 John C Dvorak: it doesn't even have to be an algorithm. This is 658 00:39:12,330 --> 00:39:16,080 the same mentality as Oh, yeah, get into boxcar they did. What's 659 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,400 the worst that could happen? 660 00:39:23,370 --> 00:39:26,580 Adam Curry: Well, Jesus, come soon. 661 00:39:28,260 --> 00:39:29,730 John C Dvorak: That ain't gonna happen this world. 662 00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:35,910 Adam Curry: No, no. If I may. No, I don't actually but you 663 00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:41,250 know, if you look at sermons on the internet, oh my god. Ezekiel 664 00:39:41,250 --> 00:39:45,090 3839 This is it. This is the final one. Wait until Russia 665 00:39:45,090 --> 00:39:51,120 gets involved. I mean, now now there's a lot this is exporting 666 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,060 to all religions. Everybody's freaking out. Everybody's 667 00:39:54,060 --> 00:39:58,770 freaking out. I've heard literal sermons. Oh, and, and then comes 668 00:39:58,770 --> 00:40:03,480 the pike letter like what plake letter yes in sermons in 669 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,120 sermons. So, you know 670 00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:08,730 John C Dvorak: if they're bringing in that superstition? 671 00:40:09,090 --> 00:40:09,750 Yes. 672 00:40:10,260 --> 00:40:14,490 Adam Curry: But, but that's also on YouTube and Tik Tok, and that 673 00:40:14,580 --> 00:40:17,910 it's not a good product this internet is bring 674 00:40:18,930 --> 00:40:21,390 John C Dvorak: this I've said this from very early on. Yes, 675 00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:25,380 that I have documented saying that this thing should be shut 676 00:40:25,380 --> 00:40:28,470 down. Yeah, well, that's not going to happen, of course, but 677 00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:29,460 it's too late now. 678 00:40:29,490 --> 00:40:33,870 Adam Curry: But what always amazes me is no agenda social. I 679 00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:37,710 see the same thing without algorithms, just because people 680 00:40:37,710 --> 00:40:38,820 can argue I think 681 00:40:38,850 --> 00:40:41,730 John C Dvorak: you're making the point. That is not the 682 00:40:41,730 --> 00:40:45,510 algorithms in this case. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think it's not the 683 00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:47,340 algorithms in any case. Okay. 684 00:40:47,340 --> 00:40:51,000 Adam Curry: So it's just pure mind controlled trauma, trauma, 685 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,400 traumatized people traumatized. And then anything that has to do 686 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,180 with a dead baby, you're killing of a baby's Oh, well, half of 687 00:41:00,180 --> 00:41:03,480 these people protesting can't have babies anymore. Give me a 688 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,790 break. Your break. There's 689 00:41:05,790 --> 00:41:10,170 John C Dvorak: your irony. Yeah. Okay, I'm looking at this pike 690 00:41:10,170 --> 00:41:10,860 stuff. 691 00:41:12,540 --> 00:41:15,210 Adam Curry: Don't bother. Don't bother with the year. here's the 692 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:18,660 here's the buses from Chicago. This this kind of irked me right 693 00:41:18,660 --> 00:41:20,700 Unknown: now. 1000s from all over the country are heading to 694 00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:23,190 Washington DC for what's expected to be the largest 695 00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:26,940 demonstration since the start of the Israel Hamas war, including 696 00:41:26,940 --> 00:41:30,780 dozens who voted these buses tonight in Chicago. Our trolley 697 00:41:30,780 --> 00:41:33,540 tomorrow caught up with another large group from our area making 698 00:41:33,540 --> 00:41:33,990 the trip. 699 00:41:37,980 --> 00:41:41,520 carrying flags signs and the power of their collective 700 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,210 voices. 701 00:41:44,340 --> 00:41:47,400 We have rights to be free. We have rights to have our own 702 00:41:47,730 --> 00:41:50,580 country, otherwise there'd be no peace whatsoever. 703 00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:55,650 In Bridgeview, two busloads of Palestinian supporters boarded 704 00:41:55,650 --> 00:42:02,130 for the roughly 12 hour drive to DC. Downtown another two buses 705 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,000 also left for our nation's capital for what's expected to 706 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,290 be the largest US Palestinian solidarity march on Saturday. 707 00:42:11,970 --> 00:42:15,600 We are not going to sit here and silently allow for them to take 708 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:21,180 part and you know and supporting Israel with this the war and 709 00:42:21,180 --> 00:42:23,910 from talking to a number of people who are aboard this bus 710 00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:27,840 headed to Washington DC. They are calling for a ceasefire and 711 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,720 at end of the United States supporting the Israeli 712 00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:31,950 government. We're frustrated 713 00:42:31,950 --> 00:42:34,410 because our tax dollars are going to fund this genocide. 714 00:42:35,460 --> 00:42:39,270 On October 7, Hamas militants attacked Israel, at least those 715 00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:41,940 in Washington, DC people, according to the Israeli 716 00:42:41,940 --> 00:42:47,040 Government, totally murder, and about 240 hostages were taken. 717 00:42:47,130 --> 00:42:50,490 The United States and President Biden have fully supported 718 00:42:50,490 --> 00:42:55,800 Israel, and its right to defend itself. Nice so far, more than 719 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,730 9000 Palestinians have been killed. According to Gaza's 720 00:42:59,730 --> 00:43:03,150 health ministry. This week, President Biden called for 721 00:43:03,150 --> 00:43:06,240 humanitarian pause, but not a ceasefire. 722 00:43:06,270 --> 00:43:11,880 For me. This is just another another chapter in what it means 723 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:12,840 to be Palestinian. 724 00:43:14,310 --> 00:43:15,990 To what we ought to Gaza, Gaza. 725 00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:18,810 Adam Curry: There's a non Palestinian American white girls 726 00:43:18,810 --> 00:43:21,180 saying this is just another chapter on what it is to be 727 00:43:21,180 --> 00:43:26,460 Palestinian, fill in the blank girl, black, gay, whatever, 728 00:43:26,460 --> 00:43:30,420 whatever group, where are the chants for the homeless? Where 729 00:43:30,420 --> 00:43:34,200 are the chants for the 100,000 opioid deaths? Where are the 730 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,130 chants for the dirty, rat infested cities that we're 731 00:43:38,130 --> 00:43:43,950 living with? Where are the chance for the potholes? Any 732 00:43:43,950 --> 00:43:45,420 chance of anything? 733 00:43:45,780 --> 00:43:48,090 John C Dvorak: The potholes are getting so big there's homeless 734 00:43:48,090 --> 00:43:48,960 living in them 735 00:43:54,210 --> 00:43:57,660 Adam Curry: well, there's a solution. Please something 736 00:43:57,690 --> 00:43:58,590 that's something 737 00:43:59,910 --> 00:44:01,980 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I got a bunch of clips there. All right. 738 00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:06,120 First of all, let's get this well, let's do demos bailing 739 00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:09,060 this me war damage bailing on Israel one. 740 00:44:10,770 --> 00:44:13,860 Adam Curry: Sec. Got it. Here. 741 00:44:14,220 --> 00:44:17,010 Unknown: More Democrats are voicing concerns about the way 742 00:44:17,010 --> 00:44:19,980 the Israeli military is approaching their objective to 743 00:44:19,980 --> 00:44:22,740 wipe out Hamas after the terrorist group launched an 744 00:44:22,740 --> 00:44:26,520 attack on Israeli civilians. Senator Chris Murphy, who sits 745 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,580 on a Middle East subcommittee said in a statement, the current 746 00:44:29,580 --> 00:44:32,850 rate of civilian death inside Gaza is unacceptable and 747 00:44:32,850 --> 00:44:37,470 unsustainable. I urge Israel to immediately reconsider its 748 00:44:37,470 --> 00:44:41,250 approach and shift to a more deliberate and proportionate 749 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,420 counterterrorism campaign. Jason crow has also expressed concerns 750 00:44:45,420 --> 00:44:49,170 about an Israeli strike aimed at taking out of Hamas military 751 00:44:49,170 --> 00:44:52,740 leader. This mission killed civilians in a highly populated 752 00:44:52,740 --> 00:44:57,450 refugee camp, which Hamas had dug tunnels under. And we asked 753 00:44:57,450 --> 00:45:00,120 lawmakers how they feel about their colleagues criticize I 754 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,300 think Israel's military operations, we did get mixed 755 00:45:03,300 --> 00:45:06,360 reactions. But the vast majority of Democrats that we heard from 756 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,690 said that others should be more thoughtful about the specific 757 00:45:09,690 --> 00:45:11,880 details in this war, contrary 758 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,410 to the rules of war, they've hidden behind the Palestinian 759 00:45:16,410 --> 00:45:19,290 people. They've embedded themselves in hospitals and 760 00:45:19,290 --> 00:45:25,620 churches, in order to create an inability of Israel to get at 761 00:45:25,620 --> 00:45:27,270 their enemy, Hamas. 762 00:45:27,810 --> 00:45:30,030 You know, Israel needs to be careful, obviously, about, you 763 00:45:30,030 --> 00:45:33,240 know, going after one commander by taking out a whole building, 764 00:45:33,390 --> 00:45:35,910 that's something they do have to the they do have to look at. And 765 00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:38,340 so I agree with Jason that that one, you know, can be 766 00:45:38,340 --> 00:45:41,610 problematic. But again, problem that happens in war. That's why 767 00:45:41,610 --> 00:45:47,130 this was this was, this was so outrageous what Hamas did to 768 00:45:47,130 --> 00:45:49,290 those innocent civilians in Israel. When 769 00:45:49,290 --> 00:45:51,060 Adam Curry: you're done with your clips, I'd like I have a 770 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,680 short sequence about the rules of war, because this is now 771 00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:00,600 what's on Deck, the rules of war, the proportionality of war, 772 00:46:00,780 --> 00:46:04,860 all of a sudden, we have these rules, that we didn't have these 773 00:46:04,860 --> 00:46:10,320 rules for Ukraine, or Vietnam, or for any other war, but now we 774 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,920 have rules. You can't be like just killing people to see we 775 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:14,910 have rules. 776 00:46:16,650 --> 00:46:21,450 John C Dvorak: Skip over to the me war update one on PBS, 777 00:46:22,530 --> 00:46:24,960 Unknown: the Israeli military. This 778 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,630 John C Dvorak: is this is update. This is from yesterday 779 00:46:27,630 --> 00:46:29,190 afternoon. The Israeli 780 00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:32,520 Unknown: military says it's closing in on Gaza City ground 781 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,910 zero in the war to crush Hamas. And tonight, America's top 782 00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:39,240 diplomat is in the region trying to ease the Palestinian civilian 783 00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:43,140 suffering. UN officials warn of malnutrition and starvation in 784 00:46:43,140 --> 00:46:46,320 Gaza, saying the average resident is surviving on just 785 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,010 two pieces of bread a day in Washington, DC and other world 786 00:46:50,010 --> 00:46:53,970 capitals including Berlin, Paris and London. Pro Palestinian 787 00:46:53,970 --> 00:46:57,750 marches and rallies called for an immediate ceasefire. And late 788 00:46:57,750 --> 00:47:01,350 today, Hamas said that more than 60 of the hostages its fighters 789 00:47:01,350 --> 00:47:04,890 took during the October 7 assault on Israel are missing 790 00:47:04,890 --> 00:47:08,040 after Israeli bombing, a claim that could not be immediately 791 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:08,820 verified. 792 00:47:10,110 --> 00:47:14,280 John C Dvorak: Yeah, so he's sort of his bread is a meme as 793 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,550 Adam Curry: I'm for ceasefire, too. I mean, you and I are both 794 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,440 very anti war. I mean, I'd stop right away, just stop. That 795 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,810 would be great. But that's not really what's going to happen. 796 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,730 That's not really what they're calling for either. 797 00:47:29,730 --> 00:47:32,100 John C Dvorak: Just a stop. That's not gonna happen. No, 798 00:47:32,370 --> 00:47:37,200 these guys are out of control. And both sides and let's go to 799 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,640 part two of this clip. In the 800 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,850 Unknown: Gaza Strip, a United Nations school near the northern 801 00:47:41,850 --> 00:47:45,660 Jabalia refugee camp offered little refuge to those within 802 00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:50,010 airstrikes hit tents in the school yard and an area where 803 00:47:50,010 --> 00:47:54,450 women were baking bread. 18,000 people are sheltering that. 804 00:47:57,180 --> 00:48:01,650 Where should I go to shelters? Those who are on the street in 805 00:48:01,650 --> 00:48:05,670 Gaza are hit while walking. Since when is it become normal 806 00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:08,520 to strike and shelters? This is so unfair. 807 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,970 The UN refugee agency could not verify the number of people 808 00:48:14,970 --> 00:48:19,290 killed, but the Hamas run Gaza health ministry put it at 15 809 00:48:21,630 --> 00:48:25,890 John C Dvorak: Okay, now this clip was weird to me. There were 810 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:31,050 and they showed visuals. This is a crowded area with 18,000 811 00:48:31,050 --> 00:48:36,480 people. And even Gaza Health Ministry said there were 15 812 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,680 killed. Now how does that work? I always 813 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,920 Adam Curry: love it sounds such like such a dichotomy when you 814 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,230 hear the number of deaths according to the health 815 00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:51,120 ministry, somehow it just it's ironic. It's very ironic, 816 00:48:51,150 --> 00:48:56,190 John C Dvorak: but 18 dead out of Eric jam. Did they show that 817 00:48:56,250 --> 00:49:00,480 they show the visual here on PBS? Yeah. It's a lot of people 818 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,440 and 18 were somehow what it was. Somebody throw a hand grenade in 819 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,470 the crowd or, I mean, the numbers don't add 820 00:49:07,470 --> 00:49:10,110 Adam Curry: up. It's just trauma. Just give people trauma. 821 00:49:11,070 --> 00:49:14,190 Just show some dead people show some people under rubble show 822 00:49:14,190 --> 00:49:15,750 some babies as 823 00:49:15,780 --> 00:49:17,940 John C Dvorak: well. By the way, too, for the people that bitch 824 00:49:17,940 --> 00:49:22,080 and moan about our analysis. Because we're dipshits we want 825 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:27,390 to remind you it really irks me. That's a term I like to use, 826 00:49:27,450 --> 00:49:28,230 Adam Curry: I say. 827 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,360 John C Dvorak: But it reminds us of the analysis we did and just 828 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,050 caught it immediately of the people coughing up white goop 829 00:49:37,290 --> 00:49:41,970 during the so called gases. The Syrian gas attack. Yes, well, 830 00:49:41,970 --> 00:49:46,590 this one is shaken and there will under shaken and Oh, and 831 00:49:46,590 --> 00:49:49,710 there and it turned out there was nothing going on was phony. 832 00:49:49,740 --> 00:49:54,120 The whole thing was was was staged. But this put this number 833 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,940 18 They could have done better than that. If you have 18,000 834 00:49:56,940 --> 00:50:00,420 people jammed in an area and 18 get killed 50 That's Not from a 835 00:50:00,420 --> 00:50:01,590 missile 15 They 836 00:50:01,590 --> 00:50:03,750 Adam Curry: said 50 not even 1815 It 837 00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:05,640 John C Dvorak: wasn't even eight years 15 And they looked very 838 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,370 hungry because only two pieces of bread a day only two pieces 839 00:50:08,370 --> 00:50:16,140 of bread. There's this one, clip three and then I have one more 840 00:50:16,140 --> 00:50:18,570 meme to discuss. 841 00:50:20,130 --> 00:50:23,760 Unknown: This boy says he carried a decapitated body away 842 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,440 from the scene. Palestinians also searched for survivors of 843 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,590 an airstrike on a residential area in the southern city of 844 00:50:31,590 --> 00:50:34,110 Han, Eunice and Asan. Via Zola. 845 00:50:35,130 --> 00:50:39,870 We are steadfast in Gaza, even if only one citizen is left. 846 00:50:40,020 --> 00:50:43,200 From there, the state will start again. As the 847 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,130 civilian death toll rises, the Israeli military maintains it is 848 00:50:47,130 --> 00:50:51,840 only targeting Hamas fighters. The Israel Defense Forces 849 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,250 released new footage today 850 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,090 Adam Curry: I've got I've just have to say that just listening 851 00:50:57,090 --> 00:51:01,830 to this and in the previous clip that I played, they are using it 852 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,440 and I can just I know what the visuals are. They're just using 853 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,460 explosions to rock your mind into thinking well that's bull 854 00:51:08,460 --> 00:51:12,330 crap. When they say no, no, we're not targeting civilians. 855 00:51:12,330 --> 00:51:17,760 Boom explosion explosion. That's that is programmatic mind 856 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,320 control right there. 857 00:51:19,500 --> 00:51:22,650 Unknown: As the civilian death toll rises, the Israeli military 858 00:51:22,650 --> 00:51:27,690 maintains it is only targeting Hamas fighters. The Israel 859 00:51:27,690 --> 00:51:30,870 Defense Forces released new footage today of what it said 860 00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:34,440 were forces blowing up Hamas tunnels and clearing access 861 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:39,900 routes for vehicles. In our man Jordan, Secretary of State 862 00:51:39,900 --> 00:51:43,230 Antony Blinken met with his regional counterparts. They 863 00:51:43,260 --> 00:51:46,920 urged him to push for an immediate ceasefire. But Blinken 864 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,450 stopped short, reiterating his call for humanitarian pauses. 865 00:51:52,170 --> 00:51:52,950 pauses. 866 00:51:53,850 --> 00:51:56,640 John C Dvorak: I want to mention another thing in that last clip. 867 00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,170 They show a kid who's 12 years old if he's a day, and he's the 868 00:52:01,170 --> 00:52:06,090 one who says I had to carry a decapitated, not headless but 869 00:52:06,090 --> 00:52:09,300 decapitated, which means it was somebody chopped his head off. 870 00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:13,410 Yeah. person and he was upset about having to do this. Wait, 871 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,490 he's in an area of 18,000 people. Why is it 12 year old, 872 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:23,760 responsible for carrying the decapitated person around and 873 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:28,140 we're off someplace else it makes? Yes. It makes no sense. 874 00:52:28,260 --> 00:52:31,650 These reports don't make sense if you just listen to them. 875 00:52:31,830 --> 00:52:32,160 Yeah, 876 00:52:32,190 --> 00:52:35,760 Adam Curry: but it's trauma. It's all trauma. Can we talk 877 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,800 about the here's the Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. So 878 00:52:37,830 --> 00:52:39,900 John C Dvorak: anyway, so here's the other meme that's been going 879 00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:42,540 around about the ambulance now. 880 00:52:42,540 --> 00:52:44,100 Adam Curry: That's the ambulance story. 881 00:52:44,790 --> 00:52:47,040 John C Dvorak: So the ambulance story, which is that then they 882 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,200 show the ambulance. The ambulance looks like you ran 883 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:54,060 into something. The ambulance wasn't hit by a missile. It I 884 00:52:54,060 --> 00:52:56,610 don't know what happened to the Samus but the story keeps going 885 00:52:56,610 --> 00:53:00,300 around and here's the NTD version of the ambulance story 886 00:53:00,330 --> 00:53:03,240 Unknown: in the Israel Hamas war and ambulance from the main 887 00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:07,560 hospital in Gaza was struck. Palestinian sources say it left 888 00:53:07,590 --> 00:53:11,820 several people dead and TDs Jason Perry has the details. And 889 00:53:11,820 --> 00:53:15,060 a WARNING This report contains footage that some viewers may 890 00:53:15,060 --> 00:53:16,080 find disturbing. 891 00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:20,310 On Friday, another deadly scene shook the streets of Gaza City 892 00:53:20,340 --> 00:53:23,910 has crowds of people were seeing running in all directions. This 893 00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:27,930 time an ambulance was struck. A spokesperson for the Hamas run 894 00:53:27,930 --> 00:53:30,180 health ministry blamed Israel for heavy 895 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,770 we announced the world that this convoy is heading to the south 896 00:53:34,770 --> 00:53:38,550 at four o'clock, and we informed the related parties including 897 00:53:38,550 --> 00:53:42,120 the International Red Cross, and we asked the Red Cross who 898 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,380 scored to convoy 899 00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:47,520 But Israel Defense Forces did not deny responsibility for 900 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,820 striking the ambulance. The IDF released this statement on 901 00:53:50,820 --> 00:53:55,440 telegram an IDF aircraft struck an ambulance that was identified 902 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,280 by forces as being used by a Hamas terrorist cell in close 903 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,030 proximity to their position in the battle zone. A number of 904 00:54:03,030 --> 00:54:06,450 Hamas terrorist operatives were killed in the strike. We have 905 00:54:06,450 --> 00:54:09,510 information which demonstrates that Hamas is method of 906 00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:13,140 operation is to transfer terror operatives and weapons and 907 00:54:13,140 --> 00:54:17,280 ambulances. The IDF also emphasized that the area is a 908 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,790 battle zone, and civilians are repeatedly called upon to 909 00:54:20,790 --> 00:54:24,960 evacuate south for their own safety. But even after the IDF 910 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,740 repeated warnings Palestinian civilians still remain in the 911 00:54:28,740 --> 00:54:32,490 area. Secretary of State Antony Blinken flew to Israel on 912 00:54:32,490 --> 00:54:35,700 Thursday to speak with Israeli leadership about the issue of 913 00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:40,590 civilian casualties. And he also noted that Hamas uses civilians 914 00:54:40,620 --> 00:54:41,460 as human shields. 915 00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:46,410 Adam Curry: And if you if you remember the Julian Assange 916 00:54:46,410 --> 00:54:52,260 released video of our US Gunship, not just shooting at 917 00:54:52,350 --> 00:54:56,220 civilians from the air but then blowing them up including 918 00:54:56,220 --> 00:54:59,100 journalists. And then when the ambulance arrived, they shot at 919 00:54:59,100 --> 00:54:59,940 the ambulance 920 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,690 John C Dvorak: Yeah, this war is 921 00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:04,620 Adam Curry: ugly business 922 00:55:04,620 --> 00:55:07,110 John C Dvorak: and the guys are yucking it up. Well, 923 00:55:07,110 --> 00:55:10,200 Adam Curry: that's not that part but it's ugly, ugly because I 924 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,650 have to see an inversion of this report. Just listen to that. 925 00:55:14,130 --> 00:55:14,370 Well, 926 00:55:14,370 --> 00:55:16,590 Unknown: well if Israel is admitting to have targeted an 927 00:55:16,590 --> 00:55:21,210 ambulance inside Gaza near Al Shifa Hospital, the Israeli 928 00:55:21,390 --> 00:55:24,300 Defense Forces saying that they this claiming that this 929 00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:27,480 ambulance was being used by Hamas, and saying that several 930 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,780 Hamas operatives were killed in this strike, Wolf, but the 931 00:55:30,780 --> 00:55:34,860 reports on the ground obviously those images are just absolutely 932 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:40,140 difficult to see a 15 people were killed in this strike. 50 933 00:55:40,140 --> 00:55:43,530 others were wounded, according to the Palestinian Ministry of 934 00:55:43,530 --> 00:55:46,740 Health, which of course is controlled by Hamas. Israel also 935 00:55:46,740 --> 00:55:50,370 says in its claim of responsibility that Hamas has 936 00:55:50,370 --> 00:55:53,730 been known to use ambulances to transport Hamas militants as 937 00:55:53,730 --> 00:55:56,730 well as weaponry. But what if there are questions about the 938 00:55:56,730 --> 00:56:00,000 legitimacy of this target, particularly as a spokesman for 939 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,030 the Palestinian Ministry of Health says that this ambulance 940 00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:06,450 was part of a convoy carrying wounded individuals who are 941 00:56:06,450 --> 00:56:09,930 heading to that Rafah crossing in order to leave Gaza and head 942 00:56:09,930 --> 00:56:12,600 into Egypt. And what's more Wolf. They also say that they 943 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,780 notified the International Red Cross of this convoy movement 944 00:56:15,780 --> 00:56:19,410 before it left, the Red Cross wolf tonight is confirming that 945 00:56:19,410 --> 00:56:23,880 it did receive notification about this convoy before this 946 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,720 convoy left, and that it received a request to accompany 947 00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:29,580 that convoy before it left. 948 00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:32,940 Adam Curry: I got to play these rules of war, this bolt, crow a 949 00:56:32,940 --> 00:56:33,240 boy, 950 00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:37,410 John C Dvorak: we got to talk about these clips, that clip it 951 00:56:37,410 --> 00:56:41,850 leaves a bunch of unanswered questions, or does first of all, 952 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,250 what was the Red Cross doing getting involved? And what did 953 00:56:44,250 --> 00:56:47,190 they actually do? It should be the Red Crescent, not the red, 954 00:56:47,550 --> 00:56:53,280 the Red Crescent is is like an adjunct of the rest has to be 955 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:57,810 related. But this is kind of beside the point because this is 956 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,680 the this is like a press releases. There's no information 957 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:07,290 whatsoever in here. No. Why is a moss using the ambulances? Why 958 00:57:07,290 --> 00:57:10,110 don't they just scatter around? Because, you know, the thing 959 00:57:10,110 --> 00:57:13,140 about Hamas is they you can't tell Hamas because they look 960 00:57:13,140 --> 00:57:15,540 like regular Palestinians. There's no difference. They 961 00:57:15,540 --> 00:57:19,080 don't wear uniforms. They don't. There's nothing to identify 962 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,590 them. They might have guns, but Palestinians could have guns. I 963 00:57:22,590 --> 00:57:27,060 mean, this is this reporting on this is a miserable it's 964 00:57:27,060 --> 00:57:30,300 Adam Curry: a meme. It's a meme that human shields is a mean, 965 00:57:30,330 --> 00:57:33,840 human humans are very bad shields. By the way. bullets go 966 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,840 through them. Now. There's nothing that human shields is 967 00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:41,880 dumb. It really is. Yeah, but you're right. This is all memes. 968 00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:46,800 It's babies decapitated human shields. All of it is a meme and 969 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,060 it's all meant to trigger people. It's not reporting. It's 970 00:57:51,060 --> 00:57:55,830 just not reporting. Especially not from CNN. Alright, so this 971 00:57:55,830 --> 00:58:01,110 is NPR. Then now they're talking to Tom Denham Baum. Tom 972 00:58:01,110 --> 00:58:05,010 Tannenbaum is a professor of international law. And a lot of 973 00:58:05,010 --> 00:58:08,190 the questions I have about international law are asked, and 974 00:58:08,370 --> 00:58:11,820 to a degree answered in this series of clips, what are the 975 00:58:11,820 --> 00:58:13,620 rules of war? Can 976 00:58:13,620 --> 00:58:16,950 Unknown: you briefly walk us through? What are the key laws 977 00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:20,550 that might apply to an incident like this in a densely populated 978 00:58:20,550 --> 00:58:21,120 urban area? 979 00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:25,830 Yeah, there are a set of rules that one has to comply with in 980 00:58:25,830 --> 00:58:28,380 this kind of situation. The first is the rule of 981 00:58:28,380 --> 00:58:32,130 distinction, which means targeting military objectives 982 00:58:32,130 --> 00:58:35,880 and not civilians or civilian objects. Second, the prohibition 983 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,150 on indiscriminate attacks, which is to say that one has to have a 984 00:58:39,150 --> 00:58:40,980 discreet military target, 985 00:58:41,070 --> 00:58:43,500 John C Dvorak: but you're not stuck right there. How does that 986 00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:44,880 explain Dresden? 987 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,270 Adam Curry: Oh, it doesn't explain. It is only when you 988 00:58:48,270 --> 00:58:51,480 want to shame somebody that you can pull out the international 989 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:56,130 rule of law. And we'll get to what that is in a moment. But 990 00:58:56,130 --> 00:59:01,590 it's, you know, this was never used. I mean, we've never 991 00:59:01,590 --> 00:59:07,140 adhered to international law, look at Iraq. Look at the Gulf 992 00:59:07,140 --> 00:59:07,710 War, the 993 00:59:07,710 --> 00:59:10,020 John C Dvorak: fact that we still have a base in Syria. 994 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,010 That's what I'd like to know. What is that doing their? 995 00:59:16,380 --> 00:59:19,170 Unknown: Second, the prohibition on indiscriminate attacks, which 996 00:59:19,170 --> 00:59:21,450 is to say, how does that work for Nagasaki, 997 00:59:21,450 --> 00:59:24,630 Adam Curry: Hiroshima, what was that was that all under the 998 00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:26,340 international rule of law, 999 00:59:26,820 --> 00:59:30,090 Unknown: that one has to have a discreet military target, not 1000 00:59:30,090 --> 00:59:33,660 target an area in which there are military objectives, but 1001 00:59:33,660 --> 00:59:38,010 also civilian populations and civilian objects. Further, one 1002 00:59:38,010 --> 00:59:41,040 has to take adequate precautions, which is to say, do 1003 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,240 everything feasible to minimize the expected civilian loss of 1004 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,360 life injury and damage to civilian objects, and finally, 1005 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,200 not to engage in the attack at all. If the civilian loss of 1006 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,800 life injury or damage to civilian objects that would be 1007 00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:00,120 expected from the attack would be excessive in relation to Due 1008 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,840 to military advantage, that the commander authorizing the attack 1009 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,900 it anticipates from that attack, yeah, blah, blah. 1010 01:00:07,170 --> 01:00:10,380 Adam Curry: So of course, we need to not think for a moment 1011 01:00:10,380 --> 01:00:14,910 about the dance party. Now, I think there were some civilians 1012 01:00:14,910 --> 01:00:21,120 who were killed or injured all civilians. So let's get into 1013 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:21,390 talking 1014 01:00:21,390 --> 01:00:22,650 John C Dvorak: about the Vegas shooting. 1015 01:00:24,180 --> 01:00:27,000 Adam Curry: Now, I was talking about the the dance party, the 1016 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,810 rave. Anyway, let's move on who makes these laws? This has been 1017 01:00:30,810 --> 01:00:34,350 one of my main questions, who owns all these laws? Who makes 1018 01:00:34,350 --> 01:00:37,380 these laws? Oh, thank you for asking me that. Finally, NPR. 1019 01:00:37,410 --> 01:00:37,920 Wow, 1020 01:00:37,950 --> 01:00:42,030 Unknown: these laws are codified in various treaties, going back 1021 01:00:42,030 --> 01:00:44,670 to the Geneva Conventions and updated in the additional 1022 01:00:44,670 --> 01:00:49,260 protocols to those conventions in 1977. But also, they are 1023 01:00:49,260 --> 01:00:51,660 embedded in what's called customary international law, 1024 01:00:51,660 --> 01:00:55,440 which is the practice of states understood by those states to be 1025 01:00:55,470 --> 01:00:58,830 legally determined, which is reflected in how states 1026 01:00:58,830 --> 01:01:01,980 articulate these rules in their military Handbooks and Other 1027 01:01:02,190 --> 01:01:04,080 expressions of their understanding of the law. 1028 01:01:04,350 --> 01:01:06,510 Adam Curry: Our military handbook, this is where we have 1029 01:01:06,510 --> 01:01:09,840 to talk to jag on the field, excuse me, is this Can I kind of 1030 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,670 fires? Okay, it's illegal. Alright, gonna do this. 1031 01:01:12,090 --> 01:01:14,460 Unknown: Yeah. And then the follow up question, who enforces 1032 01:01:14,460 --> 01:01:15,240 these laws? Oh, 1033 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:15,870 Adam Curry: good question. There 1034 01:01:15,870 --> 01:01:17,850 Unknown: are various ways that can be enforced, they can be 1035 01:01:17,850 --> 01:01:21,120 enforced by domestic courts, either within the states that is 1036 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,090 engaged in a particular action or indeed in any other state. 1037 01:01:24,750 --> 01:01:26,940 And additionally, in this particular context, the 1038 01:01:26,940 --> 01:01:30,960 international criminal court has jurisdiction over any war crimes 1039 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:31,590 occurring, 1040 01:01:32,190 --> 01:01:34,950 Adam Curry: International Criminal Court, okay. That's a 1041 01:01:34,950 --> 01:01:35,520 joke 1042 01:01:35,580 --> 01:01:38,940 Unknown: on the territory of Gaza. And that includes in this 1043 01:01:38,940 --> 01:01:43,080 particular context, the crime of engaging in a disproportionate 1044 01:01:45,540 --> 01:01:48,240 proportion, loss of life or injury or damage to civilian 1045 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,390 objects would be clearly excessive in relation to the 1046 01:01:51,390 --> 01:01:53,040 military advantage anticipated. 1047 01:01:53,130 --> 01:01:55,440 Adam Curry: And you'll hear this time and time again. It's like, 1048 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,610 well, it's disproportionate. That's not fair. War is war war 1049 01:01:59,610 --> 01:02:05,070 is the ugly Roar is horrible. Oh, you're not doing war. Right. 1050 01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:06,180 Israel says, 1051 01:02:06,210 --> 01:02:09,870 Unknown: luckily have been warning civilians to leave this 1052 01:02:09,870 --> 01:02:10,680 area. And nor this is 1053 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,770 Adam Curry: another one of them. Yeah, you know, hey, it's fair, 1054 01:02:13,770 --> 01:02:16,020 because we told him, We told them we're gonna blow Yeah, we 1055 01:02:16,020 --> 01:02:18,570 told them. It's all it's fair. It's okay. All right, 1056 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,480 Unknown: gotcha. And Israel also says, we have the right to 1057 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:26,550 defend ourselves. From a legal perspective, how much weight do 1058 01:02:26,550 --> 01:02:27,660 those defenses have? 1059 01:02:27,870 --> 01:02:31,950 The first thing to say is that acting in self defense doesn't 1060 01:02:31,950 --> 01:02:35,850 justify acting without constraint? The law of armed 1061 01:02:35,850 --> 01:02:38,880 conflict, including all of the rules that I mentioned earlier, 1062 01:02:38,910 --> 01:02:44,670 apply as much to the actor engaged in self defense as any 1063 01:02:44,670 --> 01:02:48,270 actor engaged in aggression. Both are restrained by the same 1064 01:02:48,270 --> 01:02:51,960 set of the rules on the conduct of hostilities. The second thing 1065 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,060 to say is with respect to warnings, 1066 01:02:54,090 --> 01:02:56,610 Adam Curry: so that's your Victor David Hansen argument. 1067 01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:02,730 The, you know, well, you know, you did Ukraine not send drones 1068 01:03:02,730 --> 01:03:05,640 to blow up buildings where people lived in Moscow. I mean, 1069 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,880 all of this is so hypocritical. 1070 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,180 Unknown: The second thing to say is with respect to warnings, 1071 01:03:12,690 --> 01:03:17,400 issuing warnings can be part of the required precautions that I 1072 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,340 mentioned taking all feasible measures to minimize civilian 1073 01:03:20,340 --> 01:03:24,510 harm, that would be expected from an attack. But complying 1074 01:03:24,510 --> 01:03:29,310 with the rule on precautions does not itself relieve the duty 1075 01:03:29,310 --> 01:03:31,080 to comply with the other rules. 1076 01:03:31,620 --> 01:03:34,650 Adam Curry: Alright, so what he's saying here is Israel is 1077 01:03:34,650 --> 01:03:38,040 right, because Israel went to lunch ambulance. 1078 01:03:40,260 --> 01:03:44,100 Unknown: So they did good there, but proportionality. I'm curious 1079 01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:47,520 for someone with your background. As you followed news 1080 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,130 of this incident, what are the questions that springs to mind? 1081 01:03:50,940 --> 01:03:55,620 Well, the biggest question that springs to mind is, what exactly 1082 01:03:55,620 --> 01:04:00,810 did they expect in terms of the civilian casualties? They seem 1083 01:04:00,810 --> 01:04:04,830 to be very high for the targeting of a single commander. 1084 01:04:05,430 --> 01:04:09,150 The second question is, who was that specific commander? What 1085 01:04:09,150 --> 01:04:12,780 was the specific military advantage anticipated from 1086 01:04:12,780 --> 01:04:16,140 taking that individual out? And the third question that I think 1087 01:04:16,170 --> 01:04:19,350 is worth bearing in mind when making the proportionality 1088 01:04:19,350 --> 01:04:21,750 calculation or make it you're performing an analysis of 1089 01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:22,620 proportionality 1090 01:04:22,620 --> 01:04:24,270 Adam Curry: is universal calculus, that would have been 1091 01:04:24,270 --> 01:04:25,560 better? Yeah, 1092 01:04:25,590 --> 01:04:29,700 Unknown: the same decision had been made, where the civilians 1093 01:04:29,730 --> 01:04:32,040 that were harmed in this particular context, Israeli 1094 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,910 civilians, civilians are protected as civilians 1095 01:04:35,940 --> 01:04:38,550 regardless of nationality regardless of the party with 1096 01:04:38,550 --> 01:04:39,870 which they're associated. 1097 01:04:40,950 --> 01:04:43,710 Adam Curry: Okay, for those who wonder that was Mary Louise 1098 01:04:43,710 --> 01:04:47,610 Kelly, who was asking the questions Marie Louise, Marie 1099 01:04:47,610 --> 01:04:53,070 Louise. Ah, so I find it very tiring that everyone has all 1100 01:04:53,070 --> 01:04:57,030 worked up. War is war. War is ugly. War is crap. War is 1101 01:04:57,030 --> 01:04:59,970 horrible. John and I are anti war always have been always 1102 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:05,220 It'll be I don't like wars but the the way people are getting 1103 01:05:05,220 --> 01:05:08,160 worked up about this one it is by design. 1104 01:05:08,820 --> 01:05:11,760 John C Dvorak: Yeah being controlling up is the word on up 1105 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:12,540 is spun 1106 01:05:12,540 --> 01:05:18,540 Adam Curry: up is the term term. I click custodian found an 1107 01:05:18,540 --> 01:05:24,360 interesting interview with Scott Ritter which I think is worth 1108 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,450 playing because something that is lost amongst all this is how 1109 01:05:27,510 --> 01:05:33,600 how did the so called brilliant Israeli defense allow this to 1110 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:34,170 happen? 1111 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,020 John C Dvorak: Oh, before we play that, let me get my last 1112 01:05:37,020 --> 01:05:39,210 two clips out of the way for sure. Because I think they'll 1113 01:05:39,210 --> 01:05:44,130 fit in Okay. These are my this is the we have to since we are 1114 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,850 dealing with memes we gotta get we gotta get crypto into the 1115 01:05:47,850 --> 01:05:52,170 Adam Curry: act. Oh, yeah. The finance by crypto. Yeah. Okay, 1116 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,900 John C Dvorak: let me see. So I have two clips here and I think 1117 01:05:54,900 --> 01:05:59,190 you'll be amused I'm sure I will be at this. This is the the 1118 01:05:59,190 --> 01:06:02,400 overview. This is crypto one overview. Ali 1119 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,770 Unknown: Rogen tells us how terrorist groups try to use 1120 01:06:04,770 --> 01:06:08,550 cryptocurrency to avoid banks and launder money and how law 1121 01:06:08,550 --> 01:06:09,840 enforcement is responding. 1122 01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:13,860 Experts in terrorist financing say the military wing of Hamas 1123 01:06:13,860 --> 01:06:16,710 was an early adopter of cryptocurrency soliciting 1124 01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:20,910 Bitcoin donation starting in 2019. Hamas told supporters that 1125 01:06:20,910 --> 01:06:24,690 the transactions were anonymous, but all cryptocurrency exchanges 1126 01:06:24,690 --> 01:06:28,680 are recorded on a public ledger called a blockchain that allowed 1127 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:32,370 the Department of Justice to confiscate 150 Crypto accounts 1128 01:06:32,550 --> 01:06:36,570 associated with Hamas is all Hassan brigades in 2020. In 1129 01:06:36,570 --> 01:06:40,710 April 2023, Hamas announced it would stop Bitcoin fundraising 1130 01:06:40,740 --> 01:06:44,250 efforts, but as the Treasury Department's new sanctions show, 1131 01:06:44,430 --> 01:06:47,850 terrorist groups, including Hamas, al Qaeda and ISIS are 1132 01:06:47,850 --> 01:06:51,090 still finding ways to use cryptocurrency exchanges to 1133 01:06:51,090 --> 01:06:54,300 raise and launder money and evade detection. Oh, that's 1134 01:06:54,300 --> 01:06:59,790 Adam Curry: fantastic. By this report, which is PBS, I guess. 1135 01:07:01,350 --> 01:07:07,740 By this logic, the majority of the Democrat party and a large 1136 01:07:07,740 --> 01:07:11,700 share of the Republican Party can be deemed to be terrorist as 1137 01:07:11,700 --> 01:07:17,190 they were taking literal crypto currencies as donations from Sam 1138 01:07:17,190 --> 01:07:18,270 Backman fried. 1139 01:07:18,540 --> 01:07:20,580 John C Dvorak: I think they should be arrested. 1140 01:07:20,700 --> 01:07:22,410 Adam Curry: I'm but we're going to talk about that in a minute. 1141 01:07:22,410 --> 01:07:23,910 Let's play your anyway. So 1142 01:07:23,910 --> 01:07:25,980 John C Dvorak: the second half, they bring an expert on who's 1143 01:07:25,980 --> 01:07:29,850 just run some crypto, you know, forensics, crypto, 1144 01:07:31,770 --> 01:07:35,760 unfortunately, has a style of speaking, which I found not 1145 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,620 interesting. I'm 1146 01:07:37,620 --> 01:07:40,260 Unknown: joined now by Arie redboard. He's the Global Head 1147 01:07:40,260 --> 01:07:43,770 of policy at TRM labs, a blockchain analytics company 1148 01:07:43,770 --> 01:07:46,860 that helps protect organizations against crypto related fraud and 1149 01:07:46,860 --> 01:07:50,370 financial crime. He's also a former senior Treasury official, 1150 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,070 and a former federal prosecutor. Ari, thank you so much for 1151 01:07:53,070 --> 01:07:55,350 joining us. Thank you so much for having me. What makes 1152 01:07:55,350 --> 01:07:58,230 cryptocurrency so attractive to terrorist organizations? Ya 1153 01:07:58,230 --> 01:08:01,500 know, what do we know about the mostess? Use of cryptocurrency 1154 01:08:01,500 --> 01:08:05,580 now, as has vs. Back in 2019, when they started raising these 1155 01:08:05,580 --> 01:08:07,170 funds? Yeah, no, absolutely 1156 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:07,740 Adam Curry: right. 1157 01:08:07,830 --> 01:08:11,610 Unknown: If any vulnerabilities exist that Hamas might exploit 1158 01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:12,570 in the future? 1159 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:23,670 Adam Curry: Yeah, no, look. No, no, no. Very good. A little bit 1160 01:08:23,670 --> 01:08:26,520 of humor. Well, good. I'm gonna take it around. We're gonna go 1161 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,330 into into crypto and I'll bring it right back to Hamas and 1162 01:08:30,330 --> 01:08:37,620 Israel. So as I just said, the Democrats and Republicans both 1163 01:08:37,650 --> 01:08:43,740 but majority Democrats through his mother's super PAC, this is 1164 01:08:43,740 --> 01:08:47,190 the worst part through his mother's super PAC. We're taking 1165 01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:54,120 hundreds of millions of dollars in donations in FTX token FTT a 1166 01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:59,460 literal cryptocurrency that was as far as I'm concerned, stolen 1167 01:08:59,460 --> 01:09:04,260 money being laundered right into political coffers. Yeah, and 1168 01:09:04,290 --> 01:09:08,670 that but that that's not the story anymore. No, they've taken 1169 01:09:08,670 --> 01:09:14,730 this autistic young man who clearly was abused by his 1170 01:09:14,730 --> 01:09:18,510 parents have this as my only my opinion, I have no proof. But as 1171 01:09:18,510 --> 01:09:22,500 far as I can tell, including his dad saying, Hey, Sam, what do 1172 01:09:22,500 --> 01:09:25,740 you what is this $250,000 salary I'm getting I thought it was 1173 01:09:25,740 --> 01:09:31,230 gonna be 2 million abused by his parents for political gain to 1174 01:09:31,230 --> 01:09:35,700 fund through I forget the name of it, but it's you know, it's 1175 01:09:35,940 --> 01:09:38,400 well actually we'll we'll get to what what kind of organization 1176 01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:44,610 that is but a super PAC that helps fund political operatives, 1177 01:09:44,790 --> 01:09:47,460 but didn't No, no, that's not what we're gonna do. The whole 1178 01:09:47,460 --> 01:09:50,910 government is complicit in nailing this kids balls to the 1179 01:09:50,910 --> 01:09:52,110 wall. This stunning 1180 01:09:52,110 --> 01:09:55,050 Unknown: fall from grace for Sam Venkman fried, the 1181 01:09:55,050 --> 01:09:58,380 cryptocurrency Golden Boy was found guilty of stealing 1182 01:09:58,380 --> 01:10:01,170 billions of dollars of customers. Money is one of the 1183 01:10:01,170 --> 01:10:05,640 biggest financial frauds in US history. The jury reached his 1184 01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,330 decision in just five hours putting an end to his month long 1185 01:10:09,330 --> 01:10:11,790 fraud and conspiracy trial is 1186 01:10:11,790 --> 01:10:16,200 a warning this case to every single fraudster out there who 1187 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:16,830 thinks that they're 1188 01:10:16,830 --> 01:10:17,460 John C Dvorak: untouchable, 1189 01:10:18,750 --> 01:10:21,990 Unknown: or that their crimes are too complex for us to catch. 1190 01:10:22,140 --> 01:10:25,560 Adam Curry: They make this kid sound like a mastermind. Look at 1191 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,260 the transcripts of what they discussed. The kid is an 1192 01:10:28,260 --> 01:10:34,200 autistic moron. He really is he's, he has mental development 1193 01:10:34,230 --> 01:10:35,790 issues, whether 1194 01:10:35,790 --> 01:10:38,970 Unknown: they're too powerful for us to prosecute, or that 1195 01:10:38,970 --> 01:10:41,430 they could try to talk their way out of it 1196 01:10:41,490 --> 01:10:45,930 when they get caught. Those folks would think again, and cut 1197 01:10:45,930 --> 01:10:47,640 it out. And if they 1198 01:10:47,670 --> 01:10:50,160 Adam Curry: cut it out, wow, that's an Obama ism. I don't 1199 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,650 know why that where that guy's from it, cut it out 1200 01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,540 Unknown: and cut it out. And if they don't, I promise we'll have 1201 01:10:57,540 --> 01:10:59,010 enough handcuffs for all of them, 1202 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,400 Adam Curry: except for the parents, SBS are gonna 1203 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,070 Unknown: get used to stealing from the accounts of his FTX 1204 01:11:05,070 --> 01:11:09,210 clients, using customer deposits to make investments purchase 1205 01:11:09,210 --> 01:11:12,540 real estate and repeat investors of his hedge fund Alameda 1206 01:11:12,540 --> 01:11:17,610 research. When FTX collapsed in November $8 billion in customer 1207 01:11:17,610 --> 01:11:21,450 funds were missing or vanished into investments at Alameda bank 1208 01:11:21,450 --> 01:11:24,450 comm and freed defended the money transactions between his 1209 01:11:24,450 --> 01:11:27,510 firms as permissible and claimed he'd been unaware of the 1210 01:11:27,510 --> 01:11:30,840 financial hole until October last year. Just a few weeks 1211 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,530 before the bankruptcy. Good former members of SBS inner 1212 01:11:34,530 --> 01:11:38,160 circle testified that he instructed Alameda to raid his 1213 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:42,810 customers deposits on FTX virtually without limit, SBS 1214 01:11:42,810 --> 01:11:46,410 lawyer says he will continue to fight the charges. The 31 year 1215 01:11:46,410 --> 01:11:49,620 old who is estimated to be worth several billion dollars at the 1216 01:11:49,620 --> 01:11:54,060 height of his fame now faces up to 110 years in prison, his 1217 01:11:54,060 --> 01:11:55,950 sentence will be delivered in March. 1218 01:11:56,610 --> 01:11:59,130 Adam Curry: So I don't know if they're ever going to look into 1219 01:11:59,130 --> 01:12:03,000 Alameda where all that money went because that was the that's 1220 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:07,890 the true vehicle that was used. We'll see everyone else namely 1221 01:12:07,890 --> 01:12:10,680 John C Dvorak: guilty name has been following this closely. And 1222 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:15,930 she says that the government is going after everybody. We'll see 1223 01:12:15,930 --> 01:12:20,970 because yeah, why yes, we will see because she makes the 1224 01:12:20,970 --> 01:12:26,400 assertion that bank been freed got a fast speedy trial, because 1225 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,030 he kept insisting on it, thinking that he would have a 1226 01:12:30,900 --> 01:12:35,010 wellspring of support from the from his adoring public which 1227 01:12:35,010 --> 01:12:38,910 was kind of never happened. So and then now that they got all 1228 01:12:38,910 --> 01:12:42,210 the emails between him and his debt is mainly his dad I guess 1229 01:12:42,210 --> 01:12:46,170 his mom to who encouraged him to do this and that it's just it's 1230 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,370 really a if you're in that office, and you're doing these 1231 01:12:50,370 --> 01:12:54,480 cases, I think you can have a lot of fun with this. As long as 1232 01:12:54,480 --> 01:12:57,120 you don't take the money back from the from the politicians 1233 01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:57,480 also 1234 01:12:57,480 --> 01:13:00,270 Adam Curry: making them gave it back somewhat immediate. Oh, 1235 01:13:00,270 --> 01:13:00,690 yeah. 1236 01:13:02,970 --> 01:13:04,710 John C Dvorak: All those guys on one hand, 1237 01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,080 Adam Curry: let's get the money back. Well, there'll be the 1238 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:11,550 smart ones if what Mimi is following and finds is true, but 1239 01:13:11,550 --> 01:13:16,530 this has a term and the term and this is all connected. All these 1240 01:13:16,530 --> 01:13:20,820 people are connected because it was also Sequoia Capital. Mio 1241 01:13:20,820 --> 01:13:25,470 Andreessen. All of these guys are all complicit in abusing 1242 01:13:25,470 --> 01:13:31,530 this this man, this young man into stealing this money. Don't 1243 01:13:31,530 --> 01:13:34,650 worry, Sam, your pure genius. Oh, he was playing games during 1244 01:13:34,650 --> 01:13:39,990 the pitch meeting. He's brilliant. No know. He's, he's 1245 01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:45,030 an idiot. Yeah, it's like Bill Gates, comb your hair. He's like 1246 01:13:45,030 --> 01:13:48,600 Bill Gates with his rocking back and forth. And that is exactly 1247 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:52,620 the type of person who was involved in what this techno 1248 01:13:52,620 --> 01:13:57,150 douche, that France 24 is going to explain to us and he's going 1249 01:13:57,150 --> 01:14:01,920 to connect it to some other techno deuces. This is how we 1250 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:07,080 connect Sam bank, Ben freed and AI with the term Effective 1251 01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:08,130 Altruism. 1252 01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,320 Unknown: Joining me on the set is our technology editor Peter 1253 01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:14,520 O'Brien hello to you. What can you tell us about the surprising 1254 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:19,890 links between these two events? SBF and the UK is AI Summit. 1255 01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:21,270 What do they have in common? 1256 01:14:21,300 --> 01:14:22,950 Yeah, I was wondering how we could link these things 1257 01:14:22,950 --> 01:14:25,050 together. And actually, there's there's a simple way to do it. 1258 01:14:25,050 --> 01:14:28,800 You may not have heard of it. But it's the social movements 1259 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,890 called Effective Altruism. It's often filled and it's 1260 01:14:31,890 --> 01:14:35,670 increasingly powerful. Now that power took a hit when sandbank 1261 01:14:35,670 --> 01:14:38,940 when freed, the most high profile effective Ultras and one 1262 01:14:38,940 --> 01:14:43,680 of the movements biggest donors fell from grace. But at least as 1263 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:47,580 we've seen from the AI summit in Bletchley Park this week, we can 1264 01:14:47,580 --> 01:14:50,130 see that effective Ultras talking points are still making 1265 01:14:50,130 --> 01:14:53,400 their way up the policy agenda, and one in particular the 1266 01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,130 potential for artificial intelligence to cause 1267 01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,730 catastrophic harm or risk that would not be on the policy table 1268 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,450 at So we're not for the work of effective our interests. Now, I 1269 01:15:03,450 --> 01:15:06,210 should add a disclaimer here that I've been briefly involved 1270 01:15:06,210 --> 01:15:09,930 in the movement in France. To some charities that are popular 1271 01:15:09,930 --> 01:15:11,670 among effective altruists. Now he's 1272 01:15:11,670 --> 01:15:13,680 Adam Curry: never going to mention them. But what he's 1273 01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:18,180 saying is Effective Altruism, people donate a lot of money for 1274 01:15:18,180 --> 01:15:22,500 the good of humanity for the good cause, because we care 1275 01:15:22,500 --> 01:15:26,550 about the world. That's what Sam bank when fried, really should 1276 01:15:26,550 --> 01:15:30,000 be accused of doing. Thanks to the egging on of his parents, he 1277 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,600 was literally giving it to his mother for Effective Altruism, 1278 01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,410 which does a lot of really good things, including this whole AI 1279 01:15:37,410 --> 01:15:38,250 scam. How 1280 01:15:38,250 --> 01:15:41,820 Unknown: did we get to the point where Effective Altruism is 1281 01:15:41,820 --> 01:15:44,520 producing one of the biggest frauds in history, it's also 1282 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,950 becoming a major policy debate. So 1283 01:15:47,010 --> 01:15:49,680 Adam Curry: policy is code for politics, the only 1284 01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:51,960 Unknown: way to really explain this is to take you back for the 1285 01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,140 intellectual history of the movement. So the founding 1286 01:15:55,950 --> 01:15:59,730 factor, altruism is simple, and it's persuasive. In order to do 1287 01:15:59,730 --> 01:16:03,870 the most good with your time and money. You shouldn't just think 1288 01:16:03,870 --> 01:16:06,150 about your close circle of friends and family, you 1289 01:16:06,150 --> 01:16:08,790 shouldn't just think about your community, your country, you 1290 01:16:08,790 --> 01:16:11,940 should really be taking into consideration all humans in the 1291 01:16:11,940 --> 01:16:15,420 world because we're all will suffer in a similar way. 1292 01:16:15,480 --> 01:16:18,120 Adam Curry: If Trump's president we all suffer in a similar way. 1293 01:16:18,150 --> 01:16:19,110 A classic example of 1294 01:16:19,110 --> 01:16:20,910 Unknown: putting this into practice would be rather than 1295 01:16:20,910 --> 01:16:23,070 donating money to your local fire station, 1296 01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:27,660 Adam Curry: no, don't do that. Don't don't donate local No, 1297 01:16:27,660 --> 01:16:29,340 come on France douche. Well, 1298 01:16:29,370 --> 01:16:31,680 Unknown: we'll be using the same amount of by Miss much more 1299 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:36,930 mosquito nets to protect people. But rather than just caring 1300 01:16:36,930 --> 01:16:39,330 about humans, effective altruists quickly realized that 1301 01:16:39,330 --> 01:16:41,640 the same principle should be applied to anything that can 1302 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,220 suffer, right? So that could write an animal that could be a 1303 01:16:44,220 --> 01:16:51,000 wild animal that way, a human not alive today, a future human 1304 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,120 but in the future. So that's where we get to this situation 1305 01:16:54,150 --> 01:16:56,280 where there are lots of effective artists today who are 1306 01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:59,550 also long term lists. That means people who are considered wild 1307 01:17:00,690 --> 01:17:03,720 animals that don't yet exist, but could exist in the future. 1308 01:17:04,290 --> 01:17:05,160 So this is 1309 01:17:05,190 --> 01:17:06,450 Adam Curry: this is the oh my 1310 01:17:06,450 --> 01:17:08,400 John C Dvorak: god, this I'm getting, you're getting clipping 1311 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,650 today for this thank you piece of shit. 1312 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:18,060 Adam Curry: So long term is that's the whole idea is we're 1313 01:17:18,060 --> 01:17:22,260 concerned about the human of the future, who isn't born today. 1314 01:17:22,470 --> 01:17:27,960 Therefore, we need to support policy that behooves the human 1315 01:17:27,990 --> 01:17:31,980 of the future, which happens to also kind of be beneficial to 1316 01:17:31,980 --> 01:17:36,660 our companies. And oh, incidentally, that's exactly 1317 01:17:36,660 --> 01:17:39,960 what's going on with this AI stuff. Now, I'm gonna bring this 1318 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:44,970 back to Israel and Hamas, with Scott Ritter, controversial guy. 1319 01:17:45,540 --> 01:17:50,460 But I think he does have an inside track. This one was mind 1320 01:17:50,460 --> 01:17:57,330 boggling. As he explains that it was really AI that failed Israel 1321 01:17:57,480 --> 01:17:59,640 with this attack from Hamas, 1322 01:17:59,670 --> 01:18:02,550 Unknown: let's say that you know, you have a mole inside. 1323 01:18:04,500 --> 01:18:07,200 Now what happens if I go take that mole, put them outside, 1324 01:18:07,230 --> 01:18:10,320 blow his head off and send a photograph to the Israelis, they 1325 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:14,310 now know that they don't have a mole. So you know, so there's, 1326 01:18:14,340 --> 01:18:16,740 it's better to feed them disinfo. So what you do is you 1327 01:18:16,740 --> 01:18:20,340 say, All right, we're assuming there's a mole here. We're going 1328 01:18:20,340 --> 01:18:24,090 to compartmentalize here. They also know that unit at 200. This 1329 01:18:24,090 --> 01:18:27,450 is a second unit that listens to every phone call. What happens 1330 01:18:27,450 --> 01:18:29,760 if you're talking, talking talking to you and I are 1331 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,470 talking, talking, talking also, I'm gonna go somebody's 1332 01:18:31,470 --> 01:18:33,780 listening our phone, and we don't talk anymore on that 1333 01:18:33,780 --> 01:18:37,020 phone. They're gonna say, they know that we're listening to 1334 01:18:37,020 --> 01:18:40,890 them. So what Hamas does is they create a communication support 1335 01:18:40,890 --> 01:18:43,320 plan where they just say, here's the script, guys just keep 1336 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,870 talking. And they're talking talking talk, and you did a to 1337 01:18:45,870 --> 01:18:48,150 hundreds go on. Are we collecting data? We're getting a 1338 01:18:48,150 --> 01:18:50,880 large stream of data. What are we doing that we're shooting it 1339 01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:54,060 into the AI computer that's reading it up and the computer 1340 01:18:54,060 --> 01:18:57,180 is coming back going? normal, normal, normal, normal, normal. 1341 01:18:57,180 --> 01:19:01,650 Meanwhile, losses run landlines under the ground running using 1342 01:19:01,650 --> 01:19:04,800 couriers, handwritten pieces of paper. And they're doing all 1343 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:08,370 this communication and who's not listening to it. Hamas knows 1344 01:19:08,370 --> 01:19:12,390 that they're doing the opposite. What's the best way to hide? if 1345 01:19:12,420 --> 01:19:15,480 again, if I'm doing something secret? I know the enemy is 1346 01:19:15,480 --> 01:19:19,260 looking for? Because it's an AI? It's aI guys. They're looking 1347 01:19:19,260 --> 01:19:21,810 for detect change. They're looking for something that's 1348 01:19:21,810 --> 01:19:25,830 going to trigger an AI report. How do you defeat that by doing 1349 01:19:25,830 --> 01:19:29,610 it right in the open? And that's what Hamas did they build a 1350 01:19:29,610 --> 01:19:33,420 combat city. That is exactly like one of the companies they 1351 01:19:33,420 --> 01:19:36,240 were going after. And then they would sit there and run the 1352 01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:39,780 drills over and over and over again. And the Israelis would go 1353 01:19:39,780 --> 01:19:44,340 and they looked at it just Hamas training that became normal 1354 01:19:44,550 --> 01:19:47,730 under a normal normal, normal normal. Now 1355 01:19:47,730 --> 01:19:50,730 Adam Curry: whether it was fed into AI or not the the concept 1356 01:19:50,730 --> 01:19:54,120 of what he's saying is a good one. And I remember seeing 1357 01:19:54,330 --> 01:20:01,530 videos of paragliders from the West Bank in Gaza. American 1358 01:20:01,530 --> 01:20:04,770 paragliders even people were paragliding all over the place, 1359 01:20:04,770 --> 01:20:07,320 which would kind of play into what he says here, 1360 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:10,410 Unknown: paragliding, I was like how the hell did they get that I 1361 01:20:10,410 --> 01:20:12,840 thought they had to send guys off to vacations around the 1362 01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:16,290 world to Cancun, Mexico. And in practice, they were doing it 1363 01:20:16,290 --> 01:20:19,830 right there, right in the open practicing a normal, normal, 1364 01:20:19,830 --> 01:20:24,450 normal normal AI. Now, had they not had the AI? Had they had 1365 01:20:24,450 --> 01:20:26,970 because here's the thing that happened. These girls were 1366 01:20:26,970 --> 01:20:30,240 talking about these these these observation girl tick talkers. 1367 01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,490 Yeah, they're sitting there, and they're looking at it all. 1368 01:20:32,550 --> 01:20:35,100 They're sitting there going holy shit to training. And they're 1369 01:20:35,100 --> 01:20:38,070 writing the report to detect some training, really concerned 1370 01:20:38,070 --> 01:20:41,340 about the strain. And the report goes up the chain. And the chain 1371 01:20:41,340 --> 01:20:44,700 looks and says, What does AI say? normal, normal, normal, 1372 01:20:44,700 --> 01:20:49,080 normal, normal. Do this girl's looking, hey, they're running 1373 01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,740 drills. They're there. They're bringing the vehicles by closer, 1374 01:20:52,770 --> 01:20:54,960 they're doing a simulated attack. They're bringing looks 1375 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,710 like explosives to the fence and then going back and they read it 1376 01:20:58,710 --> 01:21:01,560 up. What's the computer say? normal, normal, normal, normal 1377 01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,710 normal. So the collection was taking place. And at the lowest 1378 01:21:04,710 --> 01:21:07,080 level, they were doing the job they were supposed to do. They 1379 01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:11,880 were reporting issues of concern up the chain of command. Even 1380 01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,630 the mid level managers if they ever got through them. And they 1381 01:21:15,630 --> 01:21:17,640 said, Okay, I'm going to bump this up to the top because it 1382 01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:21,090 did. What people need to understand is the night before 1383 01:21:22,050 --> 01:21:25,830 the Hamas attack, the head of Israeli intelligence, the 1384 01:21:25,830 --> 01:21:30,090 general staff, everybody met because there was somebody in 1385 01:21:30,090 --> 01:21:33,660 the Israeli intelligence business, who said, guys, this 1386 01:21:33,660 --> 01:21:36,060 is bad, something's happened, they're getting ready to come 1387 01:21:36,060 --> 01:21:40,320 over the border. You know, we need to raise the hype. It's Yom 1388 01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,560 Kippur war, we need to cancel all leaves, we need to have all 1389 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:47,310 the commanders come back here. We need to, you know, get the 1390 01:21:47,310 --> 01:21:50,130 guards out. We need to get the girls armed, we need to get the 1391 01:21:50,130 --> 01:21:53,520 girls that don't have weapons out of this. We need to do what 1392 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,800 we need to do to protect you. They're coming over the border 1393 01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:56,670 today, guys. 1394 01:21:57,390 --> 01:21:59,850 Adam Curry: Now forget the AI part. And that banging is in 1395 01:21:59,850 --> 01:22:03,540 pretending they hit a keyboard. This rings kind of true that 1396 01:22:03,570 --> 01:22:06,780 that they were doing this practicing drill over and over 1397 01:22:06,780 --> 01:22:08,340 and over again. And 1398 01:22:08,340 --> 01:22:11,010 John C Dvorak: then when so it's got nothing to do with AI now. 1399 01:22:11,010 --> 01:22:14,130 But let's just leave it for what it is simple analysis, you'd 1400 01:22:14,130 --> 01:22:15,750 come to the same conclusion. Then 1401 01:22:15,750 --> 01:22:16,710 Adam Curry: here's the final clip. 1402 01:22:16,830 --> 01:22:20,550 John C Dvorak: Somebody wrote, wait, wait, what is he just 1403 01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:25,110 slamming AI? For me? It's like a, it's like purposeful, and 1404 01:22:25,110 --> 01:22:26,460 it's in this meaningless. 1405 01:22:26,730 --> 01:22:28,980 Adam Curry: Let's see if the third clip gives us any clues. 1406 01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:32,430 Unknown: So they all gathered together. All the senior guys. 1407 01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:36,000 And they went, what? What do you guys think? Mr. What's the 1408 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:42,210 computer tell us? So normal. But this is serious stuff. In Egypt 1409 01:22:42,210 --> 01:22:44,310 either apparently Shouldn't we shouldn't be raised the alert 1410 01:22:44,310 --> 01:22:47,940 level yet. But that's Yom Kippur war, that would be political, in 1411 01:22:47,940 --> 01:22:50,190 venues already in trouble because you know, he's trying to 1412 01:22:50,190 --> 01:22:52,710 rewrite basic law about the judiciary, people are 1413 01:22:52,710 --> 01:22:55,680 protesting. And now if we screw up their Yom Kippur war, there's 1414 01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,410 going to be a problem here. And then they you know, then they 1415 01:22:58,410 --> 01:23:02,190 said, the big one was the strategic thinker said, Hamas 1416 01:23:02,190 --> 01:23:06,600 would never do this. You see, because Hamas is bought into our 1417 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:10,470 plan. We're trying to turn them into a governing organization. 1418 01:23:10,770 --> 01:23:14,640 We had 20,000 work permits that we're using to bribe the Gazans, 1419 01:23:14,790 --> 01:23:18,240 their life is getting good. They're making money Hamas would 1420 01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:21,180 never throw away what the Israelis have given them out of 1421 01:23:21,180 --> 01:23:25,200 the kindness of their hearts and attack us. So the conception is 1422 01:23:25,260 --> 01:23:28,350 Hamas would never do it. Just regard this information. They 1423 01:23:28,350 --> 01:23:31,950 said, We'll This is honestly God's truth. Right. They said 1424 01:23:32,220 --> 01:23:37,110 we'll meet in the morning to discuss this. So the morning 1425 01:23:37,110 --> 01:23:39,690 they were supposed to get on they certainly did. They 1426 01:23:39,690 --> 01:23:42,000 certainly did meet discuss but it was already happened. It was 1427 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:46,290 too late. And this is one of the greatest intelligence failures 1428 01:23:46,530 --> 01:23:48,330 in the world. So 1429 01:23:48,330 --> 01:23:51,930 Adam Curry: I think the purposeful ai ai bullcrap is 1430 01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:56,250 just because he's a he's a guy that likes Cuban intelligence 1431 01:23:56,250 --> 01:24:01,680 military, old school and a sick of all the AI crap maybe. But 1432 01:24:01,710 --> 01:24:05,010 But this story is particularly this last two clips that rings 1433 01:24:05,010 --> 01:24:09,570 true. That's the best explanation I've heard so far. 1434 01:24:14,220 --> 01:24:16,560 John C Dvorak: Yeah, and there is some discussion of the number 1435 01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,400 of Palestinians that are working in Israel. There's lots of them. 1436 01:24:21,330 --> 01:24:23,160 And with but 1437 01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:24,390 Adam Curry: that's, that's rare. 1438 01:24:24,420 --> 01:24:28,380 John C Dvorak: I mean, it's pi b, you know, well, erring on the 1439 01:24:28,380 --> 01:24:34,080 side of not caution. It seemed to be the blunder here. But if 1440 01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,410 he didn't have cameras on the wall, I mean, that bulldozer 1441 01:24:37,410 --> 01:24:40,890 comes over and nobody notices has been the whole thing. It's 1442 01:24:40,890 --> 01:24:47,670 still somewhat suspect. They have cameras looking at the wall 1443 01:24:47,670 --> 01:24:51,240 when the bulldozers came over. Yeah, 1444 01:24:51,390 --> 01:24:53,820 Adam Curry: I don't know. This seemed like a resource 1445 01:24:53,820 --> 01:25:01,320 allocation issue. Doesn't really matter. anymore. It doesn't 1446 01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:06,630 really matter and gone is the whole deal the fact that people 1447 01:25:06,630 --> 01:25:14,580 hated K Bibi Netanyahu like to hate Trump is the same hysteria 1448 01:25:18,090 --> 01:25:20,880 John C Dvorak: meanwhile, yes, well there's a there's a woke 1449 01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,770 element in Israel, 1450 01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:25,980 Adam Curry: but you have to shoot No, it's true. It's the 1451 01:25:25,980 --> 01:25:26,940 exact same as 1452 01:25:26,940 --> 01:25:32,880 John C Dvorak: major. If and I hate to use that term, and stop 1453 01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:33,900 Adam Curry: using those terms, 1454 01:25:33,930 --> 01:25:38,370 John C Dvorak: I don't know why I can't. I'm helpless, limited 1455 01:25:38,370 --> 01:25:40,290 vocabulary I'm helpless. 1456 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:48,510 Adam Curry: Meanwhile, see happens meanwhile CNM perhaps 1457 01:25:48,510 --> 01:25:53,940 also by design, with their new overlords have finally picked up 1458 01:25:53,940 --> 01:25:58,710 on what we discussed about the Time magazine article regarding 1459 01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:06,360 the Lenski the corruption, the total failure of of the spring 1460 01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:09,990 offensive, which didn't even start in the spring. And they 1461 01:26:09,990 --> 01:26:14,310 even do a mini mini cut of the term stalemate. This was 1462 01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:15,000 surprising 1463 01:26:15,390 --> 01:26:18,210 Unknown: the months of a counter offensive to wrest territory 1464 01:26:18,210 --> 01:26:22,440 from Russia. New reporting from Time magazine reveals that while 1465 01:26:22,440 --> 01:26:25,710 Ukrainian president Solinsky is still deeply committed to the 1466 01:26:25,710 --> 01:26:29,850 fight, some of his advisors are worried one of Zelinsky aides 1467 01:26:29,850 --> 01:26:33,810 telling time he deludes himself, we're out of options. We're not 1468 01:26:33,810 --> 01:26:37,290 winning, but try telling him that. And that sobering 1469 01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:41,130 assessment extends beyond the civilian government, Ukraine's 1470 01:26:41,130 --> 01:26:44,850 commander in chief for the armed forces saying this to The 1471 01:26:44,850 --> 01:26:48,480 Economist, just like in the First World War, we've reached 1472 01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:52,530 the level of technology that puts us into a stalemate, there 1473 01:26:52,530 --> 01:26:56,130 will likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough, a 1474 01:26:56,130 --> 01:27:00,480 stalemate which has not, which was not the characterization 1475 01:27:00,630 --> 01:27:02,700 over the last several months maybe 1476 01:27:02,850 --> 01:27:05,040 already acknowledged that they're not going as far as fast 1477 01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:10,260 as they would like that said, they are moving. Not a 1478 01:27:10,260 --> 01:27:14,130 stalemate. They're not just frozen. The Ukrainians are 1479 01:27:14,130 --> 01:27:14,490 moving, 1480 01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:18,810 we do not assess that. The conflict is a stalemate. We are 1481 01:27:18,810 --> 01:27:23,850 seeing it continue to take territory. On a methodical, 1482 01:27:24,210 --> 01:27:26,070 systematic basis. We've 1483 01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:31,230 seen good progress in the counter offensive, very hard. We 1484 01:27:31,230 --> 01:27:34,800 want to make sure that Ukraine has what it needs not only to 1485 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,960 succeed on the counter offensive, but it has what it 1486 01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:38,280 needs for the long term. 1487 01:27:39,150 --> 01:27:41,760 And the reality on the battlefield. Well, we can show 1488 01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,540 you those silver slivers of yellow are Ukraine's counter 1489 01:27:45,540 --> 01:27:50,100 offensive gains, and it really isn't a whole lot. Now the 1490 01:27:50,100 --> 01:27:53,700 ground in Ukraine is a hard thing now for another long 1491 01:27:53,700 --> 01:27:56,970 winter and the fight in the United States over how much aid 1492 01:27:56,970 --> 01:28:00,810 to give it is getting more intense Congress has authorized 1493 01:28:00,810 --> 01:28:05,430 roughly $113 billion so far, but polls suggested the American 1494 01:28:05,430 --> 01:28:09,360 people's willingness to support Ukraine is waning. The yellow 1495 01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:13,020 line here shows the share of Americans who say that the US is 1496 01:28:13,020 --> 01:28:19,110 doing too much to help Ukraine. And now it's at 41%, up from 29% 1497 01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:22,530 in June. And that's raising some tough questions for the Biden 1498 01:28:22,530 --> 01:28:26,970 administration, and for both parties in Congress. So 1499 01:28:26,970 --> 01:28:31,140 Adam Curry: right on cue back after we had volva and the other 1500 01:28:31,170 --> 01:28:35,940 DJs from Russia, hoax Maloney into saying, Yeah, you know, 1501 01:28:35,970 --> 01:28:38,640 everybody in Europe, pretty tired of this. We're all getting 1502 01:28:38,670 --> 01:28:44,070 we're all looking for a way out. NBC reporting, US and European 1503 01:28:44,070 --> 01:28:48,390 officials broach the topic of peace negotiations with Ukraine 1504 01:28:48,390 --> 01:28:52,380 sources say the conversations have included very broad 1505 01:28:52,410 --> 01:28:56,730 outlines of what Ukraine might need to give up to reach a deal 1506 01:28:56,940 --> 01:29:01,290 with Russia. Now, as they have consistently said, the 1507 01:29:01,290 --> 01:29:04,650 politicians and there's a lot of sources say in this article, 1508 01:29:05,070 --> 01:29:09,780 it's up to Ukraine. That's not for us to say it's up to 1509 01:29:09,780 --> 01:29:15,030 Ukraine. So putting our creative or I consulting hats on, we've 1510 01:29:15,030 --> 01:29:18,120 got a we've got to eliminate Zelinsky and put someone else in 1511 01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,730 there who's going to say this is what we want, and it's got to be 1512 01:29:20,730 --> 01:29:25,650 a new message. This time, yeah, 1513 01:29:25,740 --> 01:29:26,610 John C Dvorak: he's got to go. 1514 01:29:26,940 --> 01:29:29,760 Adam Curry: Then it may not be pretty for him. But he's got to 1515 01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:33,570 go. Because he wants you know, he wants Crimea back. 1516 01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:35,130 John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's not happening. 1517 01:29:36,690 --> 01:29:41,280 Adam Curry: It's not happening. So his time just may be up. 1518 01:29:42,750 --> 01:29:46,290 John C Dvorak: Well, it's not being helped by this clip. Which 1519 01:29:46,530 --> 01:29:49,950 she's back Queen Ursula is back in Ukraine. The 1520 01:29:49,950 --> 01:29:52,860 Unknown: Queen and then a surprise visit to Kyiv European 1521 01:29:52,860 --> 01:29:55,530 Commission president Ursula van der Leyen met with President 1522 01:29:55,530 --> 01:29:58,800 Volodymyr Zelensky to discuss Ukraine's path to join the 1523 01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:02,370 European Union. She praised Alinsky for making excellent 1524 01:30:02,370 --> 01:30:05,370 progress and pursuing judicial and anti corruption reforms 1525 01:30:05,490 --> 01:30:08,550 while fighting its war with Russia, granting your grain EU 1526 01:30:08,550 --> 01:30:11,100 membership would signal continued international support 1527 01:30:11,100 --> 01:30:12,180 for the nation. Oh, 1528 01:30:12,180 --> 01:30:15,270 Adam Curry: man, someone sent her over there. Hey, we got 1529 01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:18,420 trouble here. We got some trouble. You clearly can't keep 1530 01:30:18,420 --> 01:30:21,330 it together there. You've got to go as a representative of 1531 01:30:21,330 --> 01:30:25,110 Europe, which he's not. You gotta go as a representative of 1532 01:30:25,110 --> 01:30:27,930 Europe and let everyone know is everything's good. It's all 1533 01:30:27,930 --> 01:30:30,720 good. She's still there. 1534 01:30:31,770 --> 01:30:33,300 John C Dvorak: I don't know how long she was there. This was 1535 01:30:33,300 --> 01:30:33,870 yesterday. 1536 01:30:33,900 --> 01:30:37,440 Adam Curry: I love the reports that France 24 has from Ukraine 1537 01:30:37,440 --> 01:30:42,450 from key leave. Where there's people just shopping in the 1538 01:30:42,450 --> 01:30:45,750 background, they got blue scooters, you know, like, you 1539 01:30:45,750 --> 01:30:45,900 know, 1540 01:30:45,900 --> 01:30:48,390 John C Dvorak: there's just like, nothing's going on. Here. 1541 01:30:48,390 --> 01:30:49,590 The rental scooters. 1542 01:30:50,250 --> 01:30:52,770 Adam Curry: It'd be like the what is it? What are those 1543 01:30:52,770 --> 01:30:54,420 scooters called? I forget what they're called. 1544 01:30:55,830 --> 01:30:57,360 John C Dvorak: You know, the cold a blight. 1545 01:30:57,390 --> 01:31:01,320 Adam Curry: Yeah. The Scourge, the scourge? Just I don't know 1546 01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:07,110 who operates the blue scooters. And so it's like, what are we 1547 01:31:07,110 --> 01:31:13,230 talking about here? And it but he's he he has to be someone 1548 01:31:13,230 --> 01:31:16,470 else has to step up step in. There has to be some kind of 1549 01:31:16,470 --> 01:31:21,600 coup. Then there'll be I'm sure. You know, some Russian friendly 1550 01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:25,770 government. Everything Oh, calm down. No European Union 1551 01:31:25,770 --> 01:31:31,170 membership, no NATO membership. But it has to be a shocker. You 1552 01:31:31,170 --> 01:31:35,880 know, and it's something has to happen where so Biden and the 1553 01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,850 politicians every will get it? Look, we got enough. We were 1554 01:31:38,850 --> 01:31:42,060 working on Iran. It's everyone's sick and tired of it. The 1555 01:31:42,060 --> 01:31:45,510 military industrial complex is already moving on. How do we 1556 01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:48,570 draw Iran into this thing was, you know, we got Israel is 1557 01:31:48,570 --> 01:31:52,320 great. We've replaced we've replaced 24 billion with 1558 01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:56,790 100,000,000,004 bagger we're good to go. Get rid of this. 1559 01:31:56,850 --> 01:32:02,310 This guy's annoying to us. He's not helping. was not working. We 1560 01:32:02,310 --> 01:32:09,120 have to have a an event is what I'm thinking. Black a boom, a 1561 01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:09,810 big event? 1562 01:32:11,100 --> 01:32:13,560 John C Dvorak: Will an assassination of Zelinsky is 1563 01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:18,360 always possible. It would be better to YES to avi, you can't 1564 01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:20,880 do it. It's got to be something you're having a heart attack. 1565 01:32:24,750 --> 01:32:27,510 Really, honestly, he's under a lot of pressure. 1566 01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:31,800 Adam Curry: Yeah, but it would have to be on the on the world 1567 01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:34,140 stage, you know, so we can all see it. 1568 01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:40,470 John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's probably it has to be at least 1569 01:32:40,500 --> 01:32:43,860 some part of the stage of the pericarp doesn't have to be a 1570 01:32:43,860 --> 01:32:46,890 big massive event. Bring the precursor, you know, giving a 1571 01:32:46,890 --> 01:32:52,140 speech at the UN. Now it has to be something where he's being 1572 01:32:52,140 --> 01:32:56,490 filmed, but it's like just goes down, you know, kind of goes 1573 01:32:56,490 --> 01:32:58,710 down like Biden does when he's tripping over stuff. 1574 01:33:00,750 --> 01:33:06,330 Adam Curry: Then we had the leader of Hezbollah, as we've 1575 01:33:06,330 --> 01:33:11,430 learned how to say it, Hezbollah, Hezbollah, and he 1576 01:33:11,430 --> 01:33:14,520 made his speech. And I have an observation about this. 1577 01:33:14,550 --> 01:33:17,970 Unknown: Crowds gathered across the region to watch the address 1578 01:33:18,150 --> 01:33:21,900 highly anticipated by Hezbollah supporters but also by the 1579 01:33:21,900 --> 01:33:25,410 international community, hoping for insight on whether the 1580 01:33:25,410 --> 01:33:29,430 Israel Hamas war could expand. The militant groups leader 1581 01:33:29,430 --> 01:33:33,570 Hassan Nasrallah first said that neither Tehran nor his Iran 1582 01:33:33,570 --> 01:33:37,440 backed group had anything to do with Hamas is attack on Israel, 1583 01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:41,040 but then went on to say all options were on the table 1584 01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:45,390 concerning fighting on the Lebanese Israeli border. Fear 1585 01:33:45,390 --> 01:33:49,200 that it could escalate or turn into a full scale war. fronts 1586 01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:52,770 could lead to a wider war is a realistic possibility. 1587 01:33:53,850 --> 01:33:57,180 In southern Lebanon has gone supporters to come as well as 1588 01:33:57,180 --> 01:34:01,110 speech as gospel, many saying they would support a war if it 1589 01:34:01,110 --> 01:34:01,920 came to it. 1590 01:34:05,670 --> 01:34:09,210 If things continue to evolve, this situation will be very 1591 01:34:09,210 --> 01:34:13,200 dangerous. When he said is enough for us. We'll be totally 1592 01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:13,680 ready. 1593 01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,520 We tell our adversaries that we want peace, 1594 01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:25,740 not war. That's what we want. But if there is war, we'll go 1595 01:34:25,740 --> 01:34:26,430 all the way. 1596 01:34:28,050 --> 01:34:31,950 Hezbollah has taken calculated steps to keep the Israeli army 1597 01:34:31,950 --> 01:34:35,340 preoccupied on the Lebanese border, but not to the extent of 1598 01:34:35,340 --> 01:34:40,080 igniting an all out war. rockets fired on Thursday night hit this 1599 01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:43,740 town in northern Israel, injuring two people in damaging 1600 01:34:43,740 --> 01:34:47,640 buildings. The cross border skirmishes have led to deaths on 1601 01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:52,080 both sides, civilians as well as fighters and soldiers. The war 1602 01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:55,350 with the militant group would be devastating for both Israel and 1603 01:34:55,350 --> 01:34:58,770 Lebanon. Hezbollah is much stronger than Hamas with an 1604 01:34:58,770 --> 01:35:03,120 arsenal of some honey Didn't 50,000 rockets and missiles. And 1605 01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:06,660 during the inconclusive month long war that Israel fought with 1606 01:35:06,660 --> 01:35:11,250 the group in 2006 swathes of Lebanon were reduced to rubble 1607 01:35:11,310 --> 01:35:14,970 Adam Curry: da the rebels strategy verbalisation Hansen 1608 01:35:14,970 --> 01:35:17,910 John C Dvorak: had a commentary about this too, in his hour long 1609 01:35:17,910 --> 01:35:24,360 lecture. Yes, he says that Iran in particular in Lebanon even 1610 01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:27,150 more so. And if you listen to other reports, where they talked 1611 01:35:27,150 --> 01:35:29,190 to Lebanese, they said, you know, we don't need this 1612 01:35:29,190 --> 01:35:32,730 aggravation. We're already damn near a useless country. I 1613 01:35:32,730 --> 01:35:35,700 haven't got any leadership, no economy, government for all 1614 01:35:35,700 --> 01:35:41,580 practical purposes. And Hanson said that there's these little 1615 01:35:41,580 --> 01:35:44,340 skirmishes, especially the ones that were out in the middle of 1616 01:35:44,340 --> 01:35:48,480 nowhere in Syria, to our bases like the base we have in Syria 1617 01:35:48,480 --> 01:35:51,810 for some unknown reason. And the base I guess, there's a base in 1618 01:35:51,810 --> 01:35:55,080 Iraq or two when they're shooting stuff. And his thought 1619 01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:59,580 was that this is just to make the Arabs happy that they're 1620 01:35:59,580 --> 01:36:04,080 doing something Oh, no, we, we took we didn't do nothing. 1621 01:36:04,110 --> 01:36:05,970 Adam Curry: Here was the observation from one of our 1622 01:36:05,970 --> 01:36:10,500 producers. This was a video telecast, whether it was pre 1623 01:36:10,500 --> 01:36:16,050 recorded or live is unclear. And if you look at the setting, once 1624 01:36:16,050 --> 01:36:18,690 our producer I forget who said this to me, but once our 1625 01:36:18,690 --> 01:36:22,320 producer said this and like oh, wow. I went Oh, wow. 1626 01:36:22,890 --> 01:36:24,300 John C Dvorak: Oh, wow. are out. 1627 01:36:24,930 --> 01:36:26,400 Unknown: Groovy, groovy baby. 1628 01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:31,800 Adam Curry: He was sitting on a Herman Miller chair. What kind 1629 01:36:31,830 --> 01:36:39,090 of leader sits in a nondescript room on our Herman Miller chair, 1630 01:36:39,390 --> 01:36:41,730 which by the way our US government uses. 1631 01:36:43,710 --> 01:36:44,880 John C Dvorak: A lot of people use 1632 01:36:46,350 --> 01:36:49,440 Adam Curry: these guys, they like thrones, they like gilded 1633 01:36:49,440 --> 01:36:53,820 rooms. I thought that was interesting and interesting. It 1634 01:36:53,820 --> 01:36:55,170 John C Dvorak: is interesting. I 1635 01:36:55,170 --> 01:36:57,960 Adam Curry: don't know if it's, it may it may mean, it may mean 1636 01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:02,190 nothing. But you don't know. So we want to draw Iran in on that 1637 01:37:02,190 --> 01:37:07,050 side. Now, let's just suppose that the Lensky has an event 1638 01:37:07,260 --> 01:37:12,720 died suddenly. And we still need to engage Russia. How can we can 1639 01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:16,800 we draw Russia into this somehow? Can we? Can we bring 1640 01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:17,580 Russia? I 1641 01:37:17,580 --> 01:37:20,070 John C Dvorak: don't think we want to you think we want to? 1642 01:37:20,070 --> 01:37:22,440 Well, we want to we don't need that aggravation. 1643 01:37:22,470 --> 01:37:25,050 Adam Curry: Let's see what the US intel suggests. 1644 01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,660 Unknown: I'm struck by the convergence of so many 1645 01:37:27,660 --> 01:37:30,180 complicating factors. And another one happened yesterday 1646 01:37:30,180 --> 01:37:33,300 your reporting, suggesting Syria as agreed to send a Russian 1647 01:37:33,300 --> 01:37:35,370 missile system to Hezbollah, what do we know here? 1648 01:37:36,780 --> 01:37:39,390 Yeah, this is a potentially extremely complicating factor 1649 01:37:39,390 --> 01:37:39,720 here. So 1650 01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:43,170 Syrian President Bashar Al Assad, we are told, has agreed 1651 01:37:43,170 --> 01:37:46,320 to provide Hezbollah, the Lebanese militant organization 1652 01:37:46,500 --> 01:37:50,070 with a Russian air defense system. And it is apparently 1653 01:37:50,070 --> 01:37:53,070 going to be delivered by the Wagner group, which is that 1654 01:37:53,070 --> 01:37:56,790 Russian mercenary organization connected because they all 1655 01:37:56,790 --> 01:38:00,750 really operate inside Syria. So Hezbollah is backed by Iran, 1656 01:38:00,780 --> 01:38:05,700 Iran supports Assad, Russia also supports Assad. And all of this 1657 01:38:05,700 --> 01:38:09,060 is coming together, of course, at a very, very delicate moment 1658 01:38:09,060 --> 01:38:11,580 when it when there are serious concerns across the US 1659 01:38:11,580 --> 01:38:14,130 government that Hezbollah could join the conflict on that 1660 01:38:14,130 --> 01:38:17,190 northern border with Israel. So having a missile defense system 1661 01:38:17,580 --> 01:38:20,130 that has been delivered by Wagner potentially we don't know 1662 01:38:20,130 --> 01:38:23,160 yet if it has been delivered, or the status of that, that could 1663 01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:27,600 really, you know, intensify this conflict in a way that the 1664 01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,690 administration has been urging the Iranians and Hezbollah and 1665 01:38:30,690 --> 01:38:33,810 other Iranian proxy groups not to do so it is definitely a 1666 01:38:33,810 --> 01:38:37,620 concern, but it just shows just how many actors there are who 1667 01:38:37,620 --> 01:38:40,290 could potentially join this conflict and make it even worse. 1668 01:38:40,350 --> 01:38:43,380 Adam Curry: I call that a trial balloon. Someone's trying little 1669 01:38:43,380 --> 01:38:48,480 strategy out, see if it catches. That's a weird one. Oh, yeah. 1670 01:38:48,480 --> 01:38:50,880 Oh, no, they look rushes in on this. 1671 01:38:51,300 --> 01:38:53,010 John C Dvorak: It could be bull crap. 1672 01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:58,740 Adam Curry: But it probably is. But that's not the point. The 1673 01:38:58,740 --> 01:39:02,190 point is, what can the military industrial complex to do once we 1674 01:39:02,190 --> 01:39:04,260 shut down the Ukraine situation? 1675 01:39:05,220 --> 01:39:07,980 John C Dvorak: Well, maybe they don't. Nobody likes the idea of 1676 01:39:07,980 --> 01:39:11,670 us trying to set Iran up so we can go in there now before it 1677 01:39:11,670 --> 01:39:15,030 gets too late. possible possible. I mean, that might not 1678 01:39:15,030 --> 01:39:16,320 be a bad thing. No, 1679 01:39:16,380 --> 01:39:24,030 Adam Curry: it's all possible. Yeah. It's amazing. The world is 1680 01:39:24,030 --> 01:39:26,370 an amazing place. Well, I 1681 01:39:26,370 --> 01:39:29,670 John C Dvorak: have a couple more clips on which which about 1682 01:39:29,670 --> 01:39:32,880 tunnel warfare, which is kind of part of this battle that's going 1683 01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:33,300 on. 1684 01:39:35,550 --> 01:39:36,270 Adam Curry: PBS 1685 01:39:37,350 --> 01:39:40,650 John C Dvorak: tunnel warfare, yep, PBS. Here's all actually I 1686 01:39:40,650 --> 01:39:43,470 believe this is NPR. I just put PBS by accident. 1687 01:39:44,100 --> 01:39:45,600 Adam Curry: No, what you're really saying is 1688 01:39:46,890 --> 01:39:53,100 Unknown: elitist voices of America. This is NPR or pbs. 1689 01:39:53,130 --> 01:39:55,770 Here's the bottom line when it comes to fighting an enemy 1690 01:39:55,770 --> 01:39:59,100 hiding in a labyrinth of tunnels. You don't want to send 1691 01:39:59,100 --> 01:40:00,120 your troops there. If 1692 01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,480 it's very dark and it's claustrophobic and it's narrow 1693 01:40:03,750 --> 01:40:07,680 and you lose your sense of direction scary in the tunnel 1694 01:40:07,740 --> 01:40:10,350 immediately you lose a bunch of time 1695 01:40:11,700 --> 01:40:13,530 John C Dvorak: well that's exactly what she's saying her 1696 01:40:13,530 --> 01:40:17,100 whole read to her as the expert that's all she basically says 1697 01:40:17,100 --> 01:40:20,310 it's scary summarize the two clips right there. I'm sorry. 1698 01:40:20,490 --> 01:40:21,600 Let's listen Marian the 1699 01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:23,190 Adam Curry: tunnel scary in the tunnels 1700 01:40:23,220 --> 01:40:26,610 Unknown: your sense of direction immediately you lose complete 1701 01:40:26,610 --> 01:40:28,470 sense of time. Definite 1702 01:40:28,470 --> 01:40:32,280 reach mon Barak is an Israeli military analyst and the author 1703 01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:36,210 of underground warfare. The Israeli military has taken her 1704 01:40:36,210 --> 01:40:40,260 into Hamas tunnels that crossed from Gaza into southern Israel. 1705 01:40:40,380 --> 01:40:46,050 They are humid and suffocating and they are incredibly scary. 1706 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:50,850 So when you're in that skirt be disoriented for sure, but also 1707 01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:52,200 incredibly afraid. 1708 01:40:52,260 --> 01:40:57,210 Hamas says it has 300 miles of tunnels a subterranean complex 1709 01:40:57,210 --> 01:41:00,870 that according to Israel includes military headquarters 1710 01:41:00,900 --> 01:41:04,470 sleeping quarters as well as workshops to make and store 1711 01:41:04,470 --> 01:41:08,670 rockets. Like Sands is workshop underground passageways criss 1712 01:41:08,670 --> 01:41:12,300 cross Gaza they're designed to allow Hamas fighters use 1713 01:41:12,300 --> 01:41:12,780 equipment for 1714 01:41:12,780 --> 01:41:15,810 John C Dvorak: a second it reminds me of something if you 1715 01:41:15,810 --> 01:41:19,860 recall the beginning of the Afghan war I wish I still had 1716 01:41:19,860 --> 01:41:22,710 some of these documents because they were printed into all the 1717 01:41:22,710 --> 01:41:26,910 news magazines had them they made the claim that they that 1718 01:41:26,910 --> 01:41:31,860 the Afghan he's had this huge underground complex smoke them 1719 01:41:31,860 --> 01:41:35,850 out. And but it was more than that, because they showed images 1720 01:41:35,850 --> 01:41:39,090 there were there were like giant garages where they worked on 1721 01:41:39,090 --> 01:41:42,420 trucks. It was all this different stuff. It was like you 1722 01:41:42,420 --> 01:41:47,040 know, factories underground is what she's describing, or 1723 01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:49,380 somebody has described where they're having barracks and all 1724 01:41:49,380 --> 01:41:53,100 this other shit all underground, doubting this 1725 01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:57,480 Adam Curry: what we have we ever all ever see is videos of the 1726 01:41:57,480 --> 01:42:02,280 opening. Like you know, though, they're all narrow, very narrow 1727 01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:06,660 opening, and then I've never seen a workshop or the sleeping 1728 01:42:06,660 --> 01:42:07,710 quarters I've seen 1729 01:42:07,710 --> 01:42:09,990 John C Dvorak: no, this is remind somebody is who's ever 1730 01:42:09,990 --> 01:42:13,200 writing these scripts used to write for Hogan's Heroes, a 1731 01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:16,410 Unknown: subterranean complex that, according to Israel, 1732 01:42:16,590 --> 01:42:20,160 includes military headquarters sleeping quarters, as well as 1733 01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:24,600 workshops to make and store rockets, underground passageways 1734 01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:28,410 criss crossed Gaza. They're designed to allow Hamas fighters 1735 01:42:28,440 --> 01:42:32,010 to quickly surface and strike Israeli troops without warning 1736 01:42:32,010 --> 01:42:36,870 pop up. Hamas has been shoveling for a long time. Chuck Freilich, 1737 01:42:36,870 --> 01:42:40,170 remember, the tunnels were part of the Israeli discussions. When 1738 01:42:40,170 --> 01:42:44,550 he was deputy national security adviser in the early 2000s. He 1739 01:42:44,550 --> 01:42:47,430 sees the expansion of the tunnels as part of Israel's 1740 01:42:47,430 --> 01:42:51,660 broader intelligence failure in underestimating Hamas. And 1741 01:42:51,660 --> 01:42:55,500 you don't believe that the enemy can do X, and so you don't see 1742 01:42:55,500 --> 01:42:57,870 it. And then in retrospect, it always turns out that there's 1743 01:42:57,870 --> 01:43:01,200 lots of information in the system but people smart people 1744 01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:01,710 ignored it. 1745 01:43:01,830 --> 01:43:04,320 Adam Curry: Meanwhile, the true enemy of the American people, 1746 01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:08,520 the US government have actual tunnels and workshops, and 1747 01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:13,770 maglev trains in Colorado, connecting all kinds of huge 1748 01:43:13,770 --> 01:43:17,340 hangars with all kinds of stuff. That's the truth. So what we're 1749 01:43:17,340 --> 01:43:20,970 doing we're projecting that when McDonald's in there, Robert F. 1750 01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:22,650 Kennedy Jr. himself. Well, 1751 01:43:22,650 --> 01:43:25,830 John C Dvorak: you know, we the North America has this is not an 1752 01:43:25,830 --> 01:43:29,880 unusual situation. Underneath the town of Toronto, is it 1753 01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:33,840 labyrinth of tunnels where they have stores, department stores, 1754 01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,660 the same thing with Montreal, there's a lot of tunnels and in 1755 01:43:36,660 --> 01:43:39,210 the wintertime to hold everything that's above ground 1756 01:43:39,210 --> 01:43:43,020 because it goes underground. And I'm in Edmonton, Ontario. I'm 1757 01:43:43,020 --> 01:43:46,590 sorry, Edmonton, Alberta, even has an underground tunnel 1758 01:43:46,590 --> 01:43:50,130 system. I've been in the Toronto system. I've been in the 1759 01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:55,020 Edmonton system, and you could be in there for days. Well, 1760 01:43:55,020 --> 01:43:57,690 that's and there's actually a McDonald's not you mentioned it 1761 01:43:58,050 --> 01:44:03,870 in the Toronto system, it leads to one of the hotels to get to 1762 01:44:03,870 --> 01:44:08,910 the adjacent set of tunnels. You have to go to the McDonald's. 1763 01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:13,470 And then you have to go to a door that's by the bathrooms and 1764 01:44:13,500 --> 01:44:16,200 open that door and they're just another set of tunnels 1765 01:44:16,230 --> 01:44:18,000 Adam Curry: and your end to get out you have to Exit Through The 1766 01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:21,450 Gift Shop. Please buy some merch. 1767 01:44:22,170 --> 01:44:23,100 John C Dvorak: Fascinating I'll 1768 01:44:23,100 --> 01:44:26,130 Unknown: bet it is with Israeli ground troops now deep inside 1769 01:44:26,130 --> 01:44:30,300 Gaza the tunnels are becoming a key factor in the fighting. The 1770 01:44:30,300 --> 01:44:33,360 Israeli military recently said its ground forces were near 1771 01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:37,290 Gaza's northern border when they spotted Hamas fighters emerging 1772 01:44:37,290 --> 01:44:40,800 from a tunnel. The Israeli troops fired on them killing or 1773 01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:43,890 wounding the Hamas members, the military said without 1774 01:44:43,890 --> 01:44:47,550 elaborating, Israel faces another big challenge because 1775 01:44:47,550 --> 01:44:51,000 the moss is believed to be holding more than 200 hostages 1776 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,790 underground. Again, Chuck Freilich, 1777 01:44:54,090 --> 01:44:57,360 I think there's all sorts of fancy technology being used to 1778 01:44:57,750 --> 01:45:01,350 try and map them out but we may not know everything and there's 1779 01:45:01,350 --> 01:45:05,400 somebody and some booby trap awaiting you at every turn. And 1780 01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:08,040 of course, the attributes are probably down there somewhere. 1781 01:45:08,340 --> 01:45:11,250 In a recent military briefing, Israel said Hamas has 1782 01:45:11,250 --> 01:45:14,370 constructed military headquarters directly beneath 1783 01:45:14,370 --> 01:45:18,630 Gaza is largest hospital all shifa Rear Admiral Daniel hood 1784 01:45:18,630 --> 01:45:21,630 Gauri is Israel's military spokesman for 1785 01:45:21,630 --> 01:45:24,990 mass terrorists operate inside and under Shifa Hospital, and 1786 01:45:24,990 --> 01:45:29,340 other hospitals in Gaza with network of terror tunnels Hamas 1787 01:45:29,340 --> 01:45:34,470 vehemently denies. Israel makes these accusations to excuse a 1788 01:45:34,470 --> 01:45:37,710 relentless bombing campaign that's already killed. 1000s of 1789 01:45:37,710 --> 01:45:42,000 Palestinian civilians and human rights groups say the existence 1790 01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:46,020 of Hamas tunnels does not justify Israeli airstrikes when 1791 01:45:46,020 --> 01:45:50,010 large numbers of civilians are present. Her Gauri argues that 1792 01:45:50,010 --> 01:45:53,160 it is Hamas that cynically putting civilians at risk 1793 01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:02,940 Adam Curry: is that clip two? That was clip two. Yes. Yeah. 1794 01:46:04,110 --> 01:46:08,970 Meanwhile, the city of Chicago is heating up, but not literally 1795 01:46:08,970 --> 01:46:12,240 because it's 24 degrees and snowing. It's not great if 1796 01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:15,510 you're a migrant, sleeping on the street, illegal migrant, I'm 1797 01:46:15,510 --> 01:46:19,500 sorry, asylum seeker, sleeping on the street, awaiting 1798 01:46:19,530 --> 01:46:23,670 something from the Chicago government or the Illinois 1799 01:46:23,670 --> 01:46:27,660 government. And the residents of Chicago are very perturbed to 1800 01:46:27,660 --> 01:46:33,060 say the least perturbed about the tents being set up and them 1801 01:46:33,060 --> 01:46:37,680 not being asked if, if this could all just take place. And 1802 01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:42,690 so a special session was called by several Aldermen. The way it 1803 01:46:42,690 --> 01:46:47,070 works in Chicago, you have these wards, and then nation, man. 1804 01:46:48,510 --> 01:46:53,580 Chicago is a fantastic place the way that's run. And and the 1805 01:46:53,580 --> 01:46:56,430 residents who are the most pissed off are the African 1806 01:46:56,430 --> 01:46:59,970 American ie black Americans who were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, 1807 01:46:59,970 --> 01:47:03,060 whoa, hold on a second. What did you didn't ask us what's going 1808 01:47:03,060 --> 01:47:06,180 on here? This is this is getting out of control. to 1809 01:47:06,180 --> 01:47:08,700 Unknown: adjourn or not to adjourn. The lights went out 1810 01:47:08,700 --> 01:47:11,070 while some city council members claimed the meeting wasn't 1811 01:47:11,070 --> 01:47:14,700 officially over. It was the end to a chaotic special meeting 1812 01:47:14,700 --> 01:47:17,100 that centered around the migrant crisis 1813 01:47:17,130 --> 01:47:24,690 Chicago has yet to say we can't take anymore. We have to draw 1814 01:47:24,690 --> 01:47:26,130 the line somewhere. 1815 01:47:26,190 --> 01:47:28,290 And that's what's been kind of frustrating about this quote 1816 01:47:28,290 --> 01:47:30,990 unquote debate is that people who are attacking the sanctuary 1817 01:47:30,990 --> 01:47:33,120 city ordinance don't know what they're talking about. It has 1818 01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:36,000 nothing to do with refugee resettlement has nothing to do 1819 01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:37,920 with the current crisis. Alderman 1820 01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:40,740 Anthony Biel, Ray Lopez and others called the special 1821 01:47:40,740 --> 01:47:44,580 meeting to discuss and vote on a non binding referendum that 1822 01:47:44,580 --> 01:47:48,060 would let voters decide if Chicago should remain as a 1823 01:47:48,060 --> 01:47:49,170 sanctuary city. 1824 01:47:49,440 --> 01:47:53,790 All I'm asking is that we give the people of this great city of 1825 01:47:53,790 --> 01:47:59,490 Chicago a chance to have a voice on this issue. Alderman 1826 01:47:59,490 --> 01:48:02,610 Carlos Ramirez Rosa says the sanctuary city ordinance only 1827 01:48:02,610 --> 01:48:05,550 refers to law enforcement and government officials not 1828 01:48:05,550 --> 01:48:08,910 cooperating with ice. Mayor Brandon Johnson City Council 1829 01:48:08,910 --> 01:48:12,390 Florida leader says providing resources to migrants is about 1830 01:48:12,390 --> 01:48:15,480 the city's values. It's not written in the ordinance, 1831 01:48:15,570 --> 01:48:18,930 Ramirez Rosa claimed the meeting violated state law. He tried to 1832 01:48:18,930 --> 01:48:22,530 stop it by sending out a group text telling orders not to show 1833 01:48:22,530 --> 01:48:25,830 up so there wouldn't be enough for a quorum, but I'm leaving 1834 01:48:25,830 --> 01:48:28,890 because right now I have potholes. She's getting him and 1835 01:48:28,890 --> 01:48:32,220 I have a host of other things. Our residents and a six year old 1836 01:48:32,220 --> 01:48:33,090 want me to deal with 1837 01:48:33,270 --> 01:48:35,670 Alderman William Hall and many of the mayor's strongest 1838 01:48:35,670 --> 01:48:39,120 supporters did not show However, after two tries there wasn't 1839 01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:42,720 formed in the meeting started. But it never came to a vote 1840 01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:46,350 because of confusion and debate over the rules or mirrors Rossa 1841 01:48:46,350 --> 01:48:49,470 claiming one thing in vielen Lopez claiming another 1842 01:48:49,620 --> 01:48:52,680 and they were so worried about losing and putting this question 1843 01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:55,770 before the voters that they were willing to bend every rule in 1844 01:48:55,770 --> 01:48:58,860 the book to get out of here as quickly as possible and how 1845 01:48:58,860 --> 01:49:02,280 the meeting legally ended is up for debate as well. Ramirez Rosa 1846 01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:06,300 says it was adjourned and the sanctuary city issue will not be 1847 01:49:06,300 --> 01:49:10,170 taken up. But Bill and Lopez say the meeting was in recess and it 1848 01:49:10,170 --> 01:49:12,360 will continue on Tuesday morning. 1849 01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:16,350 Adam Curry: Didn't really want to hear what the citizens of 1850 01:49:16,350 --> 01:49:21,600 Chicago felt about it knew that would be annoying to learn. 1851 01:49:25,020 --> 01:49:27,540 John C Dvorak: Yes, this is a huge mess for these towns. 1852 01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:31,020 Cities. Chicago is no exception. That'd be dead people in the 1853 01:49:31,020 --> 01:49:31,770 streets. 1854 01:49:32,790 --> 01:49:36,060 Adam Curry: But no chance for that. No bus rides. Hey, you're 1855 01:49:36,060 --> 01:49:41,280 in Chicago. Yeah. Let me go to DC. Yes, chance about something 1856 01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:46,620 else. We're moving into the winter even here in Texas 1857 01:49:46,620 --> 01:49:48,960 getting pretty cool. You out. Is your weather warm? You have 1858 01:49:48,990 --> 01:49:51,420 season and you have global warming there, don't you? 1859 01:49:52,740 --> 01:49:55,020 John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have convenient global warming after 1860 01:49:55,020 --> 01:49:58,800 the coldest summer in the history of the state. Yeah. Now 1861 01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:02,790 it's like 70 I think it's 72 days, it's kind of we got a 1862 01:50:02,790 --> 01:50:05,370 storm coming in. So it'd be we might we may get some rain, 1863 01:50:05,370 --> 01:50:07,650 maybe like, you know, a 10th of an inch 1864 01:50:07,980 --> 01:50:09,840 Adam Curry: has been pretty cold here. We've dipped below 1865 01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:14,730 freezing couple of times during the night. But anyway, it's flu 1866 01:50:14,730 --> 01:50:20,280 season, and it would appear that people's immunity has been 1867 01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:22,950 weakened. I can't imagine what it was that weaken their 1868 01:50:22,950 --> 01:50:26,910 immunity, but has happened. And there's a few clips we need to 1869 01:50:26,910 --> 01:50:27,600 discuss here 1870 01:50:27,630 --> 01:50:29,550 Unknown: who figures out this morning show the infant 1871 01:50:29,550 --> 01:50:33,360 mortality rate in the US rose last year for the first time in 1872 01:50:33,390 --> 01:50:37,590 decades. Doctors say one factor is so called maternity care 1873 01:50:37,590 --> 01:50:40,500 deserts where there's a lack of services for pregnant women. 1874 01:50:40,590 --> 01:50:43,140 They say another factor is the new limits on access to 1875 01:50:43,140 --> 01:50:45,630 abortion, resulting in the continuation of 1876 01:50:45,630 --> 01:50:48,120 more pregnancies. Can you believe 1877 01:50:48,180 --> 01:50:50,280 John C Dvorak: you believe that's an ironic way 1878 01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:53,130 Adam Curry: of doing it? Because you can't abort your child. 1879 01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:57,660 They're dying. What is going on? Well, Dr. Drew Lee 1880 01:50:57,660 --> 01:50:59,580 John C Dvorak: mentioned that vaccination unnecessary 1881 01:50:59,580 --> 01:51:00,930 vaccinations. Now, 1882 01:51:01,260 --> 01:51:04,230 Adam Curry: this is where the Dr. Drew clips clip comes in. 1883 01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:08,940 Oh, Dr. Drew, who has changed his tune, because he was very 1884 01:51:08,940 --> 01:51:12,630 pro Vax. In the beginning, yeah, he was a maniac. And once he 1885 01:51:12,630 --> 01:51:15,840 started to see the data, and I think that you and I both agree, 1886 01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:20,160 he's a data driven guy. And he's he's pretty level headed, wasn't 1887 01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:24,090 looking now. But once he got the data, he started turning around 1888 01:51:24,090 --> 01:51:26,880 and saying, Well, you know, this is not right. There's some stuff 1889 01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:30,870 that's wrong here. And he's also very skeptical of certainly the 1890 01:51:30,870 --> 01:51:36,090 efficacy but of the perhaps danger of the COVID vaccination, 1891 01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:41,910 then the damage may be done. So in the UK, and this is Ed Dowd. 1892 01:51:41,910 --> 01:51:45,840 He's the former Blackrock fund manager, he wrote a book about 1893 01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:50,340 and he's on the insurance company side. So he saw the data 1894 01:51:50,340 --> 01:51:53,280 the insurance companies have seen and they're going, Whoa, 1895 01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:56,130 we've got excess deaths we got we got some problem with 1896 01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:59,550 especially children, there's a problem that more more children 1897 01:51:59,550 --> 01:52:02,700 are dying. He's focusing on the United Kingdom. So he has this 1898 01:52:02,700 --> 01:52:07,920 discussion with Dr. Drew. And here is no doubt about excess 1899 01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:11,100 mortality in the UK amongst children. Do 1900 01:52:11,100 --> 01:52:14,040 Unknown: you I understand have some new data for us as well. 1901 01:52:14,430 --> 01:52:17,310 What's going on on the on your data front here? 1902 01:52:18,420 --> 01:52:23,550 Yeah, so we're starting to update 2023 numbers with as of 1903 01:52:23,550 --> 01:52:27,000 June, we started off in the UK, we're going to be following up 1904 01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:32,760 with other countries. But just Just so we're clear, the 2023 1905 01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:36,660 numbers, I talk about our annualized estimates based off a 1906 01:52:36,660 --> 01:52:40,230 linear model, given the data we have as of June. And one thing 1907 01:52:40,230 --> 01:52:43,620 we discovered that was quite worrisome was something that 1908 01:52:43,620 --> 01:52:47,760 actually talked about in my book as a smoking gun. Children in 1909 01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:52,140 the UK, were not vaccinated till later in 2021. And their excess 1910 01:52:52,140 --> 01:52:55,320 deaths are actually going down because of lockdowns and school 1911 01:52:55,410 --> 01:52:58,020 closures, which makes sense because the biggest cause of 1912 01:52:58,020 --> 01:53:02,280 death and one through 14 age group is accidental. Well, we 1913 01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:04,920 saw them that their excess deaths are starting to rise with 1914 01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:08,670 the introduction of the vaccines. Now the 23 numbers are 1915 01:53:08,670 --> 01:53:13,200 coming in and it's gone from the numbers are let me just slip 16% 1916 01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:19,950 in 2022 and 22% in 2023. And in 2021, was actually minus 7%. 1917 01:53:19,950 --> 01:53:24,240 excess deaths. So obviously, I am of the camp, it's the 1918 01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:27,750 vaccine. So we're seeing a rise in excess deaths in the age 1919 01:53:27,750 --> 01:53:31,680 group one through 14, post the implementation of the vaccine. 1920 01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:34,800 We haven't put this out yet, but we've run some correlations. 1921 01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,740 Again, correlations aren't causation, but it's a point nine 1922 01:53:37,740 --> 01:53:42,900 four fit on the model 94% correlation to the vaccine. Does 1923 01:53:42,900 --> 01:53:43,920 that mean 1924 01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:45,150 correlation? What? 1925 01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:50,340 John C Dvorak: Coincidence? Oh, no, Cohen's a correlation is not 1926 01:53:50,340 --> 01:53:53,220 causation, but we have 94%. 1927 01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:56,400 Adam Curry: And he'll address the elephant in the room in a 1928 01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:57,090 moment on 1929 01:53:57,090 --> 01:54:00,180 Unknown: the model. So 94% correlation to the vaccine 1930 01:54:00,180 --> 01:54:00,630 rollout 1931 01:54:00,660 --> 01:54:03,750 in terms of that point, nine three correlation. I'd love to 1932 01:54:03,750 --> 01:54:09,840 know a how you arrived at that. And be I'm seeing lots more data 1933 01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:14,340 coming in. That is suggesting COVID may be the culprit for the 1934 01:54:14,340 --> 01:54:16,950 excess deaths. What do you do with that data? 1935 01:54:17,580 --> 01:54:22,200 If COVID was the cause of this rise in ages one through 14 Why 1936 01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:26,700 didn't appear in 2020 and 2021 and only started post 1937 01:54:26,700 --> 01:54:30,750 vaccination that these questions need to be asked. They need to 1938 01:54:30,750 --> 01:54:33,930 be investigated, but the numbers that I reported in my book have 1939 01:54:33,930 --> 01:54:39,390 gotten worse since since since my book unfortunately. So 1940 01:54:40,530 --> 01:54:44,760 Adam Curry: correlation not causation, but looks pretty 1941 01:54:44,790 --> 01:54:48,840 pretty grim. Looks pretty grim. In the UK, but I'm sure that's 1942 01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:52,350 just because you know, there's no access to abortion. So kids 1943 01:54:52,350 --> 01:54:52,800 are dying. 1944 01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:56,040 John C Dvorak: That's it and global warming. 1945 01:54:56,070 --> 01:54:59,970 Adam Curry: And then here's just no random Dr. Dr. William MCIS. 1946 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,930 He was just reporting on what what the good doctor is seeing 1947 01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:04,320 there 1948 01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:07,440 Unknown: are only a handful out of the 100,000 doctors, Canadian 1949 01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:10,470 doctors that didn't take the vaccine that are still 1950 01:55:10,470 --> 01:55:14,430 practicing medicine. So it's something like 99.9% vaccination 1951 01:55:14,430 --> 01:55:16,980 rate, and they were the first ones to line up for their 1952 01:55:16,980 --> 01:55:20,580 vaccines. Well, as I started looking at the sudden deaths of 1953 01:55:20,580 --> 01:55:24,150 Canadian doctors, I realized, yes, most of them are dying from 1954 01:55:24,180 --> 01:55:28,440 cardiac issues, heart injuries, cardiac arrests, you know, dying 1955 01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:31,920 while jogging or swimming, dying in their sleep. And Dr. Peter 1956 01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:34,200 McCullough has talked about this extensively about the 1957 01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:37,380 myocarditis and the damage to the heart discouraging to the 1958 01:55:37,380 --> 01:55:40,530 heart, and then some are dying from blood clots, pulmonary 1959 01:55:40,530 --> 01:55:44,190 embolize strokes. But then there was a quite a large subset of 1960 01:55:44,190 --> 01:55:47,160 doctors who are developing extremely aggressive cancers, 1961 01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:51,510 and cancers and an age that they shouldn't be getting. So for 1962 01:55:51,510 --> 01:55:54,510 example, there was a doctor who developed gastric cancer in his 1963 01:55:54,510 --> 01:55:58,080 30s, presented at stage four, he was dead in less than a year, 1964 01:55:58,590 --> 01:56:01,800 very rare brain cancers in young individuals in their 20s and 1965 01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:05,850 30s. Medical students, medical residents, and these cancers 1966 01:56:05,850 --> 01:56:08,280 would always present at stage four, and they would always kill 1967 01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:10,830 them in a matter of a few months. And it was always less 1968 01:56:10,830 --> 01:56:14,190 than a year. And you know, at first I didn't know you know, 1969 01:56:14,190 --> 01:56:16,800 what the term for this was or what the phenomenon was, I just 1970 01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:19,740 started, you know, really paying attention to it, tracking it, I 1971 01:56:19,740 --> 01:56:22,470 then, you know, realize that this is being called turbo 1972 01:56:22,470 --> 01:56:26,940 cancer by people on social media, that turbo cancer is not 1973 01:56:26,940 --> 01:56:29,550 a medical term, but it's a term that people came up with to 1974 01:56:29,550 --> 01:56:33,000 really describe the extremely aggressive nature of these 1975 01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:36,450 cancers in the COVID vaccinated and these cancers behave 1976 01:56:36,660 --> 01:56:39,840 completely differently, unlike anything I've seen before in my 1977 01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:43,560 career, and I've diagnosed over 20,000 cancer patients in my 1978 01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:46,830 career with cutting edge PET CT, positron emission tomography, 1979 01:56:46,830 --> 01:56:51,150 imaging, CT, MRI, pathological correlation. I've never seen 1980 01:56:51,150 --> 01:56:54,540 anything like this. I've never seen stage four breast cancers 1981 01:56:54,540 --> 01:56:58,890 presenting and women in their 20s I've never seen stage four 1982 01:56:58,890 --> 01:57:03,600 colon cancers presenting in men and women in their 20s 30s 1983 01:57:04,170 --> 01:57:07,890 leukemias that will kill you in a matter of days or even hours 1984 01:57:07,890 --> 01:57:12,660 after diagnosis. lymphomas that again kill you in a matter of 1985 01:57:12,660 --> 01:57:14,280 months. Happy 1986 01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:20,850 Adam Curry: days are here again. This is bad. This cancer 1987 01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:23,400 John C Dvorak: well once this this is not something that's 1988 01:57:23,430 --> 01:57:29,310 ending anytime soon. No, wait. So I fear for the future of 1989 01:57:29,310 --> 01:57:30,030 Pfizer. 1990 01:57:30,390 --> 01:57:34,260 Adam Curry: Oh, Pfizer is done. They're done. And this is 1991 01:57:34,260 --> 01:57:37,050 John C Dvorak: John. This is a John's Mansfield. I've said it 1992 01:57:37,050 --> 01:57:40,470 before. On the show. John's medicine is a situation where it 1993 01:57:40,470 --> 01:57:45,360 could take the company out of the picture Borla 1994 01:57:47,010 --> 01:57:52,740 Adam Curry: Borla the CEO was on CNBC with Jim Cramer mad money 1995 01:57:53,340 --> 01:57:56,430 because what is it isn't their stock down like some like 30 or 1996 01:57:56,430 --> 01:57:57,750 40%? Haven't they just 1997 01:57:57,750 --> 01:58:01,170 John C Dvorak: tanked? It's it hasn't tanked per se but it's 1998 01:58:01,170 --> 01:58:04,200 way down. Do you want to hear these clips from Yeah, I love 1999 01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:05,640 listening to Cramer. Okay. 2000 01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:09,120 Adam Curry: Because whatever Cramer says do the opposite and 2001 01:58:09,120 --> 01:58:13,410 you'll be golden. Cramer says buy you should sell. So here he 2002 01:58:13,410 --> 01:58:16,650 is with Albert Bula. I'm talking about you know the troubles that 2003 01:58:16,650 --> 01:58:20,160 Pfizer is having with you know, with the latest vaccine, I mean, 2004 01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:22,260 what's going on here, Albert, but there is some 2005 01:58:22,260 --> 01:58:26,880 Unknown: sort of vaccine fatigue in this country right now that I 2006 01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:28,740 think affecting your earnings. 2007 01:58:29,670 --> 01:58:31,020 Adam Curry: You think you're right, 2008 01:58:31,050 --> 01:58:35,010 Unknown: but it's mainly in the COVID area because our RSV has 2009 01:58:35,010 --> 01:58:37,650 done tremendously better than what we thought 2010 01:58:39,390 --> 01:58:42,720 Adam Curry: RSV, we know that that's a lie, because our 2011 01:58:43,620 --> 01:58:46,800 insurance companies won't pay for it and it's 1000 bucks a 2012 01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:50,490 shot. So he's lying about these numbers, or 2013 01:58:50,490 --> 01:58:53,130 Unknown: you will get a vaccine is doing tremendously better 2014 01:58:53,130 --> 01:58:56,490 than what we thought and the analysts thought. And of course, 2015 01:58:56,520 --> 01:58:59,100 the flu vaccinations are doing trending quite well. We don't 2016 01:58:59,370 --> 01:59:00,660 know, but we know how they are. 2017 01:59:01,530 --> 01:59:03,870 Adam Curry: I love them. And you know, the flu vaccinations are 2018 01:59:03,870 --> 01:59:06,300 trending quite well. We don't have a flu, but the vaccinations 2019 01:59:06,300 --> 01:59:10,320 are trending quite well. We told them released the flow, and they 2020 01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:10,920 didn't do it. 2021 01:59:10,950 --> 01:59:13,440 Unknown: And of course, the flu vaccinations are doing trending, 2022 01:59:13,470 --> 01:59:15,870 right well, we don't have a flu, but we know how they are 2023 01:59:15,870 --> 01:59:20,130 trending. So there is a little bit of COVID Why saying it gets 2024 01:59:20,130 --> 01:59:23,490 better, which reflects on the number of COVID vaccinations 2025 01:59:23,490 --> 01:59:26,610 that we get also, don't forget the team they go with vaccines 2026 01:59:26,610 --> 01:59:27,690 came a little bit late. 2027 01:59:28,410 --> 01:59:31,500 Adam Curry: We had a pipeline problem. They came too late 2028 01:59:31,530 --> 01:59:34,080 Unknown: in the season right in the middle of September, 2029 01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:38,250 approximately. We had all August, quite a wave of COVID. 2030 01:59:38,250 --> 01:59:41,670 So a lot of people got COVID and they can't do a vaccine before 2031 01:59:41,670 --> 01:59:43,530 four months after they had gone. 2032 01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:45,150 Adam Curry: So we missed it. 2033 01:59:45,900 --> 01:59:49,230 John C Dvorak: We missed the damage. They missed a node in 2034 01:59:49,230 --> 01:59:50,850 the cycle. Yeah, we missed 2035 01:59:50,850 --> 01:59:53,820 Adam Curry: it. We missed it by months when there was an August 2036 01:59:53,820 --> 01:59:57,120 we should have had the VAX then we missed it. We missed it. 2037 01:59:57,660 --> 02:00:00,360 Well, let's keep going here. Come on, Jim. So I'm 2038 02:00:00,360 --> 02:00:00,870 interesting, 2039 02:00:00,900 --> 02:00:04,470 Unknown: but is it working? I mean, I know that when I go, I 2040 02:00:04,470 --> 02:00:09,150 feel like right now I went and I got my, my my flu and I got my 2041 02:00:09,150 --> 02:00:10,530 Pfizer COVID 2042 02:00:11,070 --> 02:00:13,950 Adam Curry: Jim Cramer's, a dead man. And I felt wrapped by the 2043 02:00:13,950 --> 02:00:16,290 way, he didn't say he got the shots. He just got his flu in 2044 02:00:16,290 --> 02:00:19,860 his COVID I went in to get some flu and COVID Like, 2045 02:00:19,860 --> 02:00:24,060 Unknown: right now I went and I got my, my, my flu and I got my 2046 02:00:24,060 --> 02:00:25,410 Pfizer COVID 2047 02:00:25,680 --> 02:00:29,040 Adam Curry: exactly your Pfizer? COVID? Yes. And I felt rather, 2048 02:00:29,670 --> 02:00:30,690 pioneers, 2049 02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:34,530 Unknown: I felt that I'm alone. Now I know others are doing, but 2050 02:00:34,530 --> 02:00:37,950 I'm trying to I'm struggling. Why doesn't everybody do this? 2051 02:00:37,980 --> 02:00:39,720 And what is the resistance? Because 2052 02:00:40,770 --> 02:00:42,960 Adam Curry: why doesn't everybody do what I do have Jim 2053 02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:44,190 Cramer, we 2054 02:00:44,190 --> 02:00:45,510 Unknown: thought in the beginning of the year, so we 2055 02:00:45,510 --> 02:00:49,020 thought that we will have 24% of the Americans. And that was our 2056 02:00:49,020 --> 02:00:53,700 projection. We're doing a COVID vaccine this year. So far, it 2057 02:00:53,700 --> 02:00:57,540 looks like it's trending more towards 17%. And so far, maybe 2058 02:00:57,540 --> 02:01:01,710 seven 8% have done it. But the months ahead of us are, are very 2059 02:01:02,220 --> 02:01:07,230 strong. So there are many reasons why it's lower. And we 2060 02:01:07,230 --> 02:01:11,280 are far away from the COVID fear. So everybody will get the 2061 02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:13,740 vaccine. Now we are in the middle of the COVID fatigue. 2062 02:01:14,220 --> 02:01:14,400 We're 2063 02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:17,310 Adam Curry: in the middle of the COVID Fat t we need to make more 2064 02:01:17,310 --> 02:01:18,540 fear or fear. 2065 02:01:18,570 --> 02:01:21,240 Unknown: Nobody wants to speak about COVID. And we have also a 2066 02:01:21,240 --> 02:01:23,460 lot of anti vaxxers rhetorical the big Oh, 2067 02:01:23,700 --> 02:01:26,220 Adam Curry: there you go. We're responsible for the stock price 2068 02:01:26,220 --> 02:01:27,420 drop the anti vaxxers. 2069 02:01:27,570 --> 02:01:28,560 Unknown: The good news is that 2070 02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:31,710 John C Dvorak: his rhetoric the way he said it has to read 2071 02:01:31,980 --> 02:01:32,580 rhetoric now. 2072 02:01:33,270 --> 02:01:35,970 Unknown: He wants to speak about COVID. And we have also a lot of 2073 02:01:35,970 --> 02:01:39,780 anti vaxxers rhetorical the big, but the good news is that those 2074 02:01:39,780 --> 02:01:41,940 are they are doing a vaccine right now are those that they 2075 02:01:41,940 --> 02:01:44,820 truly believe in the value of vaccinations. But so that's a 2076 02:01:44,820 --> 02:01:48,690 very base assumption for what their vaccination rates will be 2077 02:01:48,690 --> 02:01:50,070 as a floor going forward. 2078 02:01:50,220 --> 02:01:52,440 Adam Curry: Well, okay, then maybe you need to do some more 2079 02:01:52,440 --> 02:01:53,820 marketing, how's the marketing, there's 2080 02:01:53,820 --> 02:01:56,790 Unknown: something that occurred that is fortuitous. And I'm not 2081 02:01:56,790 --> 02:01:59,880 trying to make light of it. But you picked a spokesperson, 2082 02:01:59,910 --> 02:02:03,360 Travis Kelce, perhaps because of his association with Taylor 2083 02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:06,930 Swift, maybe the most famous athlete in the world right now. 2084 02:02:07,290 --> 02:02:10,860 And you also as an antagonist, a fellow by the name of Aaron 2085 02:02:10,860 --> 02:02:15,690 Rodgers, who called in Mr. Pfizer in order to mock him, but 2086 02:02:15,690 --> 02:02:19,200 the fact is, sir, isn't that the kind of awareness that you need 2087 02:02:19,200 --> 02:02:23,400 in order to be able to build prescriptions, build vaccines, 2088 02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:26,070 and make people realize the power of your portfolio? 2089 02:02:26,580 --> 02:02:27,180 I think 2090 02:02:31,110 --> 02:02:35,850 prescribe vaccines and then get people to realize the power of 2091 02:02:35,850 --> 02:02:36,630 your portfolio. 2092 02:02:37,170 --> 02:02:40,890 I think he's and he's a wonderful spokesperson for us 2093 02:02:40,890 --> 02:02:43,560 and we are very proud that we are associating our name with 2094 02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:44,190 him. Oh, 2095 02:02:44,190 --> 02:02:46,770 Adam Curry: yeah, well, the marketing is up. No, because 2096 02:02:46,770 --> 02:02:51,510 ozempic is outspending you Novo Nordisk has spent $600 million 2097 02:02:51,930 --> 02:02:55,500 in the American market alone. That was not within the first 2098 02:02:55,500 --> 02:02:59,070 nine months they are they are out marketing you on all fronts. 2099 02:02:59,070 --> 02:03:02,400 No one wants to talk about your crap on the morning shows. We 2100 02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:06,090 want to talk about losing weight with a shortcut. Anyway, great 2101 02:03:06,090 --> 02:03:07,590 your transition Dr. Rola. 2102 02:03:07,620 --> 02:03:12,480 Unknown: Welcome back to Mad Money. In fine, how are you sir? 2103 02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:14,160 Very, very well. 2104 02:03:15,750 --> 02:03:17,670 Adam Curry: That was I actually played them out of order. 2105 02:03:18,150 --> 02:03:23,910 Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Oh, yes, he was also he was 2106 02:03:23,910 --> 02:03:28,860 doing the rounds. He was on Reuters. About the it's an old 2107 02:03:28,860 --> 02:03:29,100 one that 2108 02:03:29,100 --> 02:03:29,850 John C Dvorak: he's traded probably. 2109 02:03:30,300 --> 02:03:33,090 Adam Curry: Screw that guy. Screw. Screw him. Screw my say. 2110 02:03:33,390 --> 02:03:36,120 So I had that we had the dinner with the ER doctor and his wife. 2111 02:03:36,900 --> 02:03:39,510 John C Dvorak: Okay, and how did that go? What you what you 2112 02:03:39,510 --> 02:03:41,010 learn? And what did you learn? 2113 02:03:41,280 --> 02:03:44,100 Adam Curry: Here's what I'm learning both. Finn Ben Dazzle. 2114 02:03:44,100 --> 02:03:46,770 Lee Finn, Ben Dazzle. Lee. I think it is 2115 02:03:46,830 --> 02:03:49,230 John C Dvorak: and Ben Yes, stuff. I was talking about anti 2116 02:03:49,230 --> 02:03:50,040 cancer drug. 2117 02:03:50,070 --> 02:03:53,700 Adam Curry: Yeah, it sounds like it's the real deal. Yeah, of 2118 02:03:53,700 --> 02:03:57,180 course. It's generic. It's used to D warm dogs. 2119 02:03:57,510 --> 02:04:01,950 John C Dvorak: So another word for dewormers got to be good for 2120 02:04:01,950 --> 02:04:02,160 you. 2121 02:04:03,900 --> 02:04:06,960 Adam Curry: But that's what everyone's talking about. And it 2122 02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:11,760 seems like there's something there. Yeah. I don't want to put 2123 02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:15,840 words in his mouth. But seems like there's something there. So 2124 02:04:16,350 --> 02:04:22,740 more bad news for the for the pharmaceutical industry? No. No, 2125 02:04:22,740 --> 02:04:24,690 as long as as long as we have the as long 2126 02:04:24,690 --> 02:04:27,030 John C Dvorak: as they can advertise on TV there's no bad 2127 02:04:27,030 --> 02:04:30,750 news for them. They gotta be banned from advertising some of 2128 02:04:30,750 --> 02:04:34,890 the stuff they're advertising is like sounds I get death pill 2129 02:04:34,890 --> 02:04:37,230 when you listen to the whole ad? Pretty 2130 02:04:37,230 --> 02:04:39,780 Adam Curry: much all of it sounds like a death pill. The 2131 02:04:39,780 --> 02:04:45,540 new Alzheimer's drugs right off the bat may result in death Hey, 2132 02:04:45,540 --> 02:04:50,430 granny. It's a win win either way. The the either you remember 2133 02:04:50,430 --> 02:04:52,380 stuff or you clear up you're dead and you're out of our 2134 02:04:52,380 --> 02:04:56,820 lives. Right before we take a break. This was for conspiracy 2135 02:04:56,820 --> 02:04:59,790 therapists like myself. This was a concerning message that came 2136 02:04:59,790 --> 02:05:04,950 out On Friday and this is a report, part of it Friday part 2137 02:05:04,950 --> 02:05:06,270 of it Saturday 1000s 2138 02:05:06,270 --> 02:05:08,280 Unknown: of people are still waiting for their money tonight, 2139 02:05:08,310 --> 02:05:12,690 US Bank Wells Fargo Huntington Bank, everyone shared the same 2140 02:05:12,690 --> 02:05:16,500 message about a deposit delay. Danny Spiewak explains what 2141 02:05:16,500 --> 02:05:18,750 happened. And when you'll see your money. 2142 02:05:20,070 --> 02:05:23,820 from Minneapolis based US Bank to Wells Fargo to Bank of 2143 02:05:23,820 --> 02:05:26,940 America, some of the nation's largest banks experienced 2144 02:05:26,940 --> 02:05:30,690 disruptions Friday with direct deposit. The Federal Reserve 2145 02:05:30,690 --> 02:05:33,570 says it's because of a processing error with the 2146 02:05:33,570 --> 02:05:37,650 centralized system known as the automated clearing house. If it 2147 02:05:37,650 --> 02:05:40,800 wasn't at one of the banks. It was actually in the in the 2148 02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:43,800 plumbing that feeds those deposits into the banks. Greg 2149 02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:47,610 McBride is the Chief Financial Analyst for bankrate.com. It's 2150 02:05:47,610 --> 02:05:50,490 unsettling going into the weekend to not see the deposit 2151 02:05:50,490 --> 02:05:52,800 there that you had expected to see when you got up this 2152 02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:56,880 morning. The Clearing House says this impacted less than 1% of 2153 02:05:56,880 --> 02:06:00,960 daily transactions. But that's still 1000s of users. Across the 2154 02:06:00,960 --> 02:06:04,770 country. People flooded social media with complaints, asking if 2155 02:06:04,770 --> 02:06:08,310 others were having problems with direct deposit to one person 2156 02:06:08,310 --> 02:06:11,550 wrote, direct deposit being messed up when rent is due is 2157 02:06:11,550 --> 02:06:15,930 crazy, but your money is safe. And the banks are working to get 2158 02:06:15,930 --> 02:06:19,470 that corrected with the provider. For example, US Bank 2159 02:06:19,470 --> 02:06:22,230 said in a statement that customer accounts remain secure, 2160 02:06:22,410 --> 02:06:25,680 and balances will be updated when deposits are received. The 2161 02:06:25,680 --> 02:06:29,700 money will be there. What you want to do is make sure that any 2162 02:06:29,700 --> 02:06:32,760 payments that we're scheduled to come out today that those 2163 02:06:32,760 --> 02:06:35,670 creditors are notified that you're not assessed any late 2164 02:06:35,670 --> 02:06:38,430 fees. And that if there were any overdraft fees that you 2165 02:06:38,430 --> 02:06:42,570 incurred, that the bank reverses those. There is no timetable 2166 02:06:42,570 --> 02:06:45,240 right now for when all these direct deposit issues are going 2167 02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:45,930 to be fixed. 2168 02:06:46,770 --> 02:06:49,830 Adam Curry: Well, clearly it's the fault of ivermectin. But 2169 02:06:50,250 --> 02:06:55,290 when I hear reports, A I? No, no, when I hear reports that 2170 02:06:55,290 --> 02:06:58,200 people talking about, oh, it's something in the tubes. And I 2171 02:06:58,200 --> 02:07:02,970 really, I mean, the way ACH works. I know because I had 2172 02:07:02,970 --> 02:07:07,320 Bankers Trust another fine institution at Bankers Trust as 2173 02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:11,520 a client in the in the mid to late 90s. And it's really these 2174 02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:16,680 huge machines. These mean, huge, but they're all mainframes and 2175 02:07:16,680 --> 02:07:19,410 they have to do settlements, and they do a lot of it in the 2176 02:07:19,410 --> 02:07:23,670 overnight hours. And it's okay, the I have to send this man this 2177 02:07:23,670 --> 02:07:26,220 much to you, you got to send much this much to me. So we 2178 02:07:26,220 --> 02:07:28,470 don't actually send anything back and forth. We just do an 2179 02:07:28,470 --> 02:07:31,770 accounting. What bothers me about this report is everyone's 2180 02:07:31,770 --> 02:07:38,130 saying your account is secure. Why? It was there? Was this 2181 02:07:38,130 --> 02:07:42,120 maybe some kind of maybe ransomware game imagine 2182 02:07:42,120 --> 02:07:45,900 ransomware or something of that magnitude getting into the ACH 2183 02:07:45,900 --> 02:07:46,470 system 2184 02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:49,950 John C Dvorak: is that it would be unbelievably interesting. 2185 02:07:52,170 --> 02:07:54,510 Adam Curry: Well, they're saying your accounts are secure. Yeah, 2186 02:07:54,510 --> 02:07:56,070 John C Dvorak: I think you may have picked up on something 2187 02:07:56,070 --> 02:07:58,980 there something may have happened at that level. Now, 2188 02:07:58,980 --> 02:08:01,200 Adam Curry: the only other thing I can think is that the Citizens 2189 02:08:01,200 --> 02:08:06,960 Bank of Iowa basically collapsed on Friday. Not a lot of news 2190 02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:11,190 about it. So maybe because they had stuff going back and forth 2191 02:08:11,190 --> 02:08:15,450 that they had to, you know, stop the tubes, but it is kind of a 2192 02:08:15,450 --> 02:08:19,800 two Bish system. It's really old fashioned. This not it's no 2193 02:08:19,800 --> 02:08:24,810 magic. It's not like, you know, like crypto, that money going on 2194 02:08:24,810 --> 02:08:28,380 a blockchain. It's just these big machines that have to talk 2195 02:08:28,380 --> 02:08:32,910 to each other overnight. It's the clearing house. So you never 2196 02:08:32,910 --> 02:08:35,370 want that to happen on a weekend. It's not it's not a 2197 02:08:35,370 --> 02:08:37,500 holiday week. Is it a holiday weekend? No. 2198 02:08:38,640 --> 02:08:41,550 John C Dvorak: We have a holiday coming up now. But now, that 2199 02:08:41,550 --> 02:08:41,820 doesn't 2200 02:08:41,820 --> 02:08:45,360 Adam Curry: count. It would have to be on a bank holiday weekend 2201 02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:51,150 as they say. But I think that's not like it. So it's just 2202 02:08:51,180 --> 02:08:55,620 troublesome. The ACH I mean, that's everything goes through 2203 02:08:55,620 --> 02:08:59,970 Ach, doesn't it? Checks. Everything goes that way. 2204 02:09:00,570 --> 02:09:02,310 John C Dvorak: You had the banker over should ask him. 2205 02:09:03,630 --> 02:09:06,090 Adam Curry: I didn't know I had the ER doctor and the banker 2206 02:09:06,090 --> 02:09:07,290 over the ER doctor. 2207 02:09:09,150 --> 02:09:10,530 John C Dvorak: Oh, we should ask him. 2208 02:09:11,970 --> 02:09:16,710 Adam Curry: No, if you ask the bank is a bad meeting. That's 2209 02:09:16,710 --> 02:09:19,470 the kind of answer you get from him. You get like you don't know 2210 02:09:19,470 --> 02:09:23,880 what you're talking about. Okay. Maybe this is maybe it's time to 2211 02:09:23,880 --> 02:09:25,080 bring in fed now. 2212 02:09:26,130 --> 02:09:28,110 John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's a ton that's the thing to do can 2213 02:09:28,110 --> 02:09:34,770 be something like that. even comes close to that clip. Bezos 2214 02:09:34,770 --> 02:09:40,260 moved to Miami. I got that. Who cares? Yeah, I got a Trump fraud 2215 02:09:40,260 --> 02:09:44,280 case update. It's got a little bank and stuff who cares about 2216 02:09:44,280 --> 02:09:45,360 banks. Eric 2217 02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:48,510 Unknown: Trump concludes his testimony. He said he wouldn't 2218 02:09:48,540 --> 02:09:52,290 sign anything that wasn't accurate. The judge has ruled 2219 02:09:52,290 --> 02:09:55,770 that he and others fraudulently inflated the value of his 2220 02:09:55,770 --> 02:09:59,310 father's assets. Our legal correspondent Arlene Richards 2221 02:09:59,310 --> 02:10:00,360 finds out sorry Before 2222 02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:04,740 Adam Curry: we before, why didn't they use the old glitch? 2223 02:10:06,480 --> 02:10:08,490 That's what I'm missing from that report. 2224 02:10:08,550 --> 02:10:12,180 John C Dvorak: Oh, this is buggy. Is he eating at you? Yes. 2225 02:10:12,210 --> 02:10:15,270 Because normally normally that's what they do. They said there 2226 02:10:15,270 --> 02:10:18,630 was a glitch glitch in the system, nothing to worry about. 2227 02:10:18,660 --> 02:10:21,360 But instead they're waving their arms going, No, you're you're 2228 02:10:21,360 --> 02:10:25,080 secure. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. And then you 2229 02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:28,440 imagine the building on fire behind that guy. 2230 02:10:28,800 --> 02:10:31,020 Unknown: This is fine. Yes. Okay. 2231 02:10:31,140 --> 02:10:34,770 Back to drum. Eric Trump concludes his testimony. He said 2232 02:10:34,770 --> 02:10:38,820 he wouldn't sign anything that wasn't accurate. The judge has 2233 02:10:38,820 --> 02:10:42,270 ruled that he and others fraudulently inflated the value 2234 02:10:42,270 --> 02:10:45,630 of his father's assets. Our legal correspondent Arlene 2235 02:10:45,630 --> 02:10:48,900 Richards finds out why he signed documents that the judge 2236 02:10:48,900 --> 02:10:50,970 believes are fraudulent. Eric 2237 02:10:50,970 --> 02:10:54,300 Trump is finished testifying, but he didn't leave the stand 2238 02:10:54,300 --> 02:10:57,960 until after the state confronted him with evidence that he signed 2239 02:10:57,960 --> 02:11:01,440 off on estimates of some of his father's properties. The state 2240 02:11:01,440 --> 02:11:04,500 is trying to establish that Donald Trump's second son was 2241 02:11:04,500 --> 02:11:07,530 involved in a scheme to inflate the value of his father's 2242 02:11:07,530 --> 02:11:11,700 assets. The younger Trump said he relied on his accountants and 2243 02:11:11,700 --> 02:11:15,810 attorneys to ensure those estimates are accurate. Judge 2244 02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:19,050 Arthur and Goron has already ruled that the senior Trump and 2245 02:11:19,050 --> 02:11:22,920 his two sons fraudulently inflated those assets to win 2246 02:11:22,920 --> 02:11:26,730 favorable terms from lenders and insurers. outside of the 2247 02:11:26,730 --> 02:11:31,050 courtroom. Eric blasted Attorney General Letitia James, he told 2248 02:11:31,050 --> 02:11:34,050 reporters later that James should be an advocate for 2249 02:11:34,050 --> 02:11:36,270 businesses like Trump's she 2250 02:11:36,270 --> 02:11:38,520 should be an advocate for businesses that pay a lot of 2251 02:11:38,520 --> 02:11:42,660 taxes and do great things and meet their commitments and pay 2252 02:11:42,660 --> 02:11:43,620 off their debts. 2253 02:11:43,650 --> 02:11:47,250 He said she should not advocate for Deutsche Bank. She should 2254 02:11:47,250 --> 02:11:47,700 also go 2255 02:11:47,700 --> 02:11:49,770 out and fight for the little guys as opposed to try and be an 2256 02:11:49,770 --> 02:11:51,780 advocate of Deutsche Bank, 2257 02:11:51,840 --> 02:11:54,660 who literally loves us who said we have done absolutely nothing 2258 02:11:54,660 --> 02:11:55,050 wrong. 2259 02:11:55,080 --> 02:11:58,200 He said Deutsche Bank made hundreds of millions of dollars 2260 02:11:58,200 --> 02:12:01,320 from doing business with Trump, something the judge has not 2261 02:12:01,320 --> 02:12:05,340 disputed. But the focus of this trial is on how much more money 2262 02:12:05,340 --> 02:12:09,600 the bank could have made up for the fraud. Eric said the truth 2263 02:12:09,630 --> 02:12:10,410 will come out. 2264 02:12:10,500 --> 02:12:12,780 We haven't done a single thing wrong. They're trying to 2265 02:12:12,780 --> 02:12:16,470 disqualify my father for 2024. He's leading in all the polls. 2266 02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:17,340 His father 2267 02:12:17,340 --> 02:12:21,780 posted two words on social media election interference. 2268 02:12:22,860 --> 02:12:25,770 Adam Curry: Now, the former New York banker worked at Deutsche 2269 02:12:25,770 --> 02:12:29,880 Bank. And years ago we talked about because they did business 2270 02:12:29,880 --> 02:12:33,840 with Trump. Then we talked about his head at Trump's a douche, 2271 02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:36,060 but we always make good money off of it. I think that's a 2272 02:12:36,060 --> 02:12:38,220 direct quote. Yeah, I'm 2273 02:12:38,220 --> 02:12:40,080 John C Dvorak: sure that's exactly right. And isn't this 2274 02:12:40,080 --> 02:12:40,920 just a 2275 02:12:40,920 --> 02:12:44,730 Adam Curry: matter of market pricing best price? Yeah, 2276 02:12:44,730 --> 02:12:47,850 John C Dvorak: there's a judge's using like the price that you 2277 02:12:47,880 --> 02:12:51,210 that you get from the county and the value of your property. They 2278 02:12:51,210 --> 02:12:53,370 did that with Mara Lago Oh, so 2279 02:12:53,370 --> 02:12:55,920 Adam Curry: he's gonna say that all right. Okay. Well, Mar a 2280 02:12:55,920 --> 02:13:00,360 Lago he said was like $8 million dollars or something? Yeah, 2281 02:13:00,360 --> 02:13:03,180 something ridiculous, which is what Trump might have bought it 2282 02:13:03,180 --> 02:13:05,940 for. That's very well I 2283 02:13:06,870 --> 02:13:08,220 John C Dvorak: don't know whatever he bought it for is 2284 02:13:08,220 --> 02:13:10,890 beside the point. The thing is valuable property especially 2285 02:13:10,890 --> 02:13:13,920 where it's located. That's I mean, with the devaluation might 2286 02:13:13,920 --> 02:13:16,860 be worth a billion it might be worth 2 billion you can't sell 2287 02:13:16,860 --> 02:13:19,080 it for 8 million I guarantee to sell quick. 2288 02:13:21,030 --> 02:13:22,440 Adam Curry: Now there was a whole report. 2289 02:13:24,030 --> 02:13:26,670 John C Dvorak: Now this is just obviously just this is 2290 02:13:26,670 --> 02:13:31,620 transparently election interference is no question. No. 2291 02:13:32,070 --> 02:13:35,490 And all these other cases, I think the public is wise to it. 2292 02:13:35,700 --> 02:13:37,530 And these things are starting to fall apart 2293 02:13:41,790 --> 02:13:44,940 Adam Curry: Well, it's a little quiet on the pot on the 2294 02:13:44,940 --> 02:13:47,430 political front, there's not a lot of bass 2295 02:13:47,430 --> 02:13:49,740 John C Dvorak: because Kennedy's taking themselves out of the 2296 02:13:49,740 --> 02:13:50,850 picture at least for now. 2297 02:13:51,270 --> 02:13:53,790 Adam Curry: Yeah, they tried to get him with the the UC that 2298 02:13:53,790 --> 02:14:01,320 they tried to get him with the with the Lolita Express. That he 2299 02:14:01,320 --> 02:14:06,120 flew already. Oh, yeah, he Bromberg. Yes. But here it is. 2300 02:14:06,150 --> 02:14:09,600 And this is actually kind of interesting when I read the the 2301 02:14:09,630 --> 02:14:13,980 the statement amid mounting curiosity over Kennedy being 2302 02:14:13,980 --> 02:14:18,030 listed as one of the passengers on the on Epstein's jet. A 2303 02:14:18,030 --> 02:14:21,540 spokesperson for the former Democrat exclusively told 2304 02:14:21,540 --> 02:14:23,820 John C Dvorak: Newsweek Wait, wait, stop. Where are you 2305 02:14:23,820 --> 02:14:24,720 reading this from? 2306 02:14:25,170 --> 02:14:27,780 Adam Curry: I'm read Newsweek and it's and 2307 02:14:27,780 --> 02:14:32,190 John C Dvorak: it uses the term former Democrat. Yes. Ah, that's 2308 02:14:32,190 --> 02:14:33,030 pretty revealing. 2309 02:14:34,380 --> 02:14:37,500 Adam Curry: exclusively told Newsweek that he had quote, 2310 02:14:37,530 --> 02:14:41,310 flown one time on Jeffrey Epstein's private plane. It was 2311 02:14:41,310 --> 02:14:46,350 in 1993 from New York City to Palm Beach to visit RFK Jr's mom 2312 02:14:46,350 --> 02:14:49,860 for Easter. The spokesperson added that the private jet trip 2313 02:14:49,860 --> 02:14:54,090 was made possible by Kennedy's then wife, Mary Richard Kennedy, 2314 02:14:54,330 --> 02:14:57,480 who was friendly with Epstein's partner at the time, Julian 2315 02:14:57,480 --> 02:15:01,980 Maxwell. Now, of course, Mary Kennedy not mentioned in this 2316 02:15:01,980 --> 02:15:05,250 report committed suicide after they were years after they were 2317 02:15:05,250 --> 02:15:09,210 divorced. But they say Richardson Kennedy passed away 2318 02:15:09,210 --> 02:15:14,700 in 2012. That's interesting too. Instead of you know she 2319 02:15:14,700 --> 02:15:18,030 committed suicide. Kennedy has been married to Curb Your 2320 02:15:18,030 --> 02:15:23,010 Enthusiasm star Cheryl Hines since 2014. Quote Mary Kennedy's 2321 02:15:23,010 --> 02:15:25,950 wife and two of their kids were on the flight the representative 2322 02:15:25,950 --> 02:15:29,190 said Mary new Epstein's girlfriend julaine Maxwell, who 2323 02:15:29,190 --> 02:15:31,200 learned that they were going to Palm Beach for Easter and 2324 02:15:31,200 --> 02:15:35,190 offered their family a ride. I never get cool offers like that. 2325 02:15:35,820 --> 02:15:38,820 While there has been no evidence to suggest that Epstein's listed 2326 02:15:38,820 --> 02:15:42,060 plane passengers were involved in any of his crimes, a number 2327 02:15:42,060 --> 02:15:45,000 of social media users have falsely pushed the suggestion 2328 02:15:45,180 --> 02:15:49,920 that all those who knew him were in some way complicit well, then 2329 02:15:49,920 --> 02:15:52,710 they should also talk about Kamala Harris who was partying 2330 02:15:52,710 --> 02:15:59,130 it up with Julian Maxwell so but clearly clearly a 2331 02:15:59,130 --> 02:16:00,450 John C Dvorak: lot of the stories that you know the 2332 02:16:00,450 --> 02:16:08,160 Kennedy up it relies on stories like this that can be debunked 2333 02:16:08,670 --> 02:16:12,000 debunk bubbles so it's so there's a lot of debunking most 2334 02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:16,740 of it comes out and it was oh, oh is a bad guy. Oh, it's debunk 2335 02:16:16,770 --> 02:16:17,940 Oh, he's a good guy. 2336 02:16:18,180 --> 02:16:18,990 Adam Curry: The D bond 2337 02:16:18,990 --> 02:16:20,670 John C Dvorak: he was doing his getting a ride I 2338 02:16:20,670 --> 02:16:23,730 Adam Curry: think we need a t shirt debunk bubbles. tumtum Dum 2339 02:16:23,730 --> 02:16:23,910 Dum 2340 02:16:23,910 --> 02:16:27,600 John C Dvorak: so so Kennedy all this stuff is very Oh, he said 2341 02:16:27,600 --> 02:16:30,870 this about that. No, no, he never did. Oh, I didn't know. 2342 02:16:30,870 --> 02:16:34,860 Okay, well, okay. So there's a lot of this debunk bubbles 2343 02:16:34,890 --> 02:16:38,130 around Kennedy. It's like, phase three. 2344 02:16:38,399 --> 02:16:42,059 Adam Curry: Well, you better step it up. Maybe just chill 2345 02:16:42,059 --> 02:16:44,999 out, maybe chill out until after the Lensky is dead or something. 2346 02:16:46,949 --> 02:16:49,589 I'm praying maybe three bunking? 2347 02:16:50,129 --> 02:16:57,599 John C Dvorak: You have to you have to assume if it's up if 2348 02:16:57,599 --> 02:17:00,299 it's if it comes down there's a reason. 2349 02:17:01,289 --> 02:17:03,989 Adam Curry: And with that, I'd like to thank you for your 2350 02:17:03,989 --> 02:17:06,449 courage in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the 2351 02:17:06,449 --> 02:17:08,939 scary channels ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend 2352 02:17:08,939 --> 02:17:11,579 on the other end the one and only Mr. Johnson 2353 02:17:16,980 --> 02:17:18,750 John C Dvorak: in the morning, you have a strong crazy morning 2354 02:17:18,750 --> 02:17:21,000 little chips to see in the boots on the ground. The feet in the 2355 02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:23,400 air the subs in the water the Dames and the nights out there 2356 02:17:23,400 --> 02:17:23,610 and 2357 02:17:23,610 --> 02:17:26,280 Adam Curry: in the morning to the future graduates of the no 2358 02:17:26,280 --> 02:17:30,120 agenda HD and to our tools in the tool room. Hands up trolls. 2359 02:17:34,380 --> 02:17:41,310 Want to Okay, we have 2058 Right now, 2360 02:17:41,459 --> 02:17:43,319 John C Dvorak: people bailed out. We must have been boring. 2361 02:17:43,349 --> 02:17:43,709 We had 2362 02:17:43,709 --> 02:17:47,549 Adam Curry: 2269 About half an hour ago. Yeah. 2363 02:17:47,639 --> 02:17:49,829 John C Dvorak: So where were the average on Sunday should be 2364 02:17:49,829 --> 02:17:50,699 2400. 2365 02:17:50,730 --> 02:17:53,430 Adam Curry: So we lost it with the I guess with the with the 2366 02:17:53,430 --> 02:17:56,940 COVID When people heard they could die. Chicken out on 2367 02:17:56,940 --> 02:17:57,870 chicken. Yeah, actually, 2368 02:17:57,870 --> 02:18:01,050 John C Dvorak: it's not just not uplifting. It's not uplifting. I 2369 02:18:01,050 --> 02:18:07,590 have I would say most of our audience has gotten the shot. So 2370 02:18:07,590 --> 02:18:09,210 what are you gonna do? I mean, it's you all you're doing is 2371 02:18:09,210 --> 02:18:12,930 presenting them with the Doom. It's not good. I'll never do it 2372 02:18:12,930 --> 02:18:16,560 again. Now there is some there that we should be what there is 2373 02:18:16,560 --> 02:18:22,440 this? Supposedly there's a couple of there's some there's 2374 02:18:22,440 --> 02:18:27,450 some natto mid something that is derived from natto. That that 2375 02:18:27,600 --> 02:18:31,770 fermented beans that the Japanese eat and a couple of 2376 02:18:31,770 --> 02:18:36,090 pills. There's some different kinds of supplements you can 2377 02:18:36,090 --> 02:18:38,880 take yourself? Yes. 2378 02:18:39,510 --> 02:18:40,260 Adam Curry: Of 2379 02:18:40,260 --> 02:18:40,710 John C Dvorak: the 2380 02:18:40,769 --> 02:18:44,639 Adam Curry: I will ask. I will ask the ER doctor. I think he 2381 02:18:44,639 --> 02:18:45,509 has a protocol. 2382 02:18:46,440 --> 02:18:48,510 John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's gotta be protocols and then that 2383 02:18:48,510 --> 02:18:51,570 will then people will listen because instead of telling him 2384 02:18:51,570 --> 02:18:54,750 they're all gonna die, you're just being like the mainstream 2385 02:18:54,750 --> 02:18:59,730 media. I'm horrible. You're horrible. So instead of telling 2386 02:18:59,730 --> 02:19:03,360 him that you'd be telling him hey, look at this. Look at that. 2387 02:19:03,360 --> 02:19:09,420 Who has some some some links? Yes. Not ha 2388 02:19:09,990 --> 02:19:12,330 Adam Curry: bless you. not medical advice, not medical 2389 02:19:12,330 --> 02:19:15,630 advice, but God bless you. Do you have COVID 2390 02:19:16,379 --> 02:19:17,369 John C Dvorak: Now I gotta sneeze. 2391 02:19:20,250 --> 02:19:22,890 Adam Curry: Thank you trolls. We love having you here just about 2392 02:19:22,890 --> 02:19:26,070 trolls have been good this morning. For some reason they 2393 02:19:26,070 --> 02:19:29,670 just been good. I don't know they not as trollee as usual, 2394 02:19:29,880 --> 02:19:34,500 troll more trolls. Now you can become a troll. It's very 2395 02:19:34,500 --> 02:19:36,990 simple. Just look for a bridge, go live under it. You're good to 2396 02:19:36,990 --> 02:19:41,130 go. Or you can go to troll room.io and become a virtual 2397 02:19:41,130 --> 02:19:45,330 troll. And we do that. While we have no agenda stream.com which 2398 02:19:45,330 --> 02:19:48,990 is 24 hours a day with all of the best podcasts from around 2399 02:19:48,990 --> 02:19:52,470 Gitmo nation. It truly is the best Podcast Network, a true 2400 02:19:52,470 --> 02:19:55,590 sense of the word because you sit there in the troll room and 2401 02:19:55,590 --> 02:19:59,670 you listen to a lot of the shows are live and you just troll like 2402 02:19:59,670 --> 02:20:02,790 that. You know what you're talking about. And it feels good 2403 02:20:04,560 --> 02:20:05,490 to femoral, you know, 2404 02:20:05,790 --> 02:20:06,690 John C Dvorak: that's the voice. 2405 02:20:09,450 --> 02:20:10,290 Adam Curry: That's exactly what it is. 2406 02:20:14,580 --> 02:20:17,190 John C Dvorak: And the ventriloquist comes out he's 2407 02:20:17,190 --> 02:20:20,460 Adam Curry: back, he's back. Episode femoral because it goes 2408 02:20:20,460 --> 02:20:23,220 away. You know, that's what's cool about it. It's not like no 2409 02:20:23,220 --> 02:20:27,030 agenda social where we have lots of trolls congregating. And 2410 02:20:27,030 --> 02:20:29,370 that's just like any other social network algo we're not 2411 02:20:29,370 --> 02:20:33,300 people spitting on each other up. And then what happens is, 2412 02:20:33,300 --> 02:20:38,340 then they resort to DM Hey, man, you should come down. There's 2413 02:20:38,370 --> 02:20:40,170 Easy does it man, don't worry about it. 2414 02:20:41,520 --> 02:20:44,280 John C Dvorak: But who's doing that? To who know? Well, 2415 02:20:44,280 --> 02:20:46,710 Adam Curry: people get mad at each other. And then other 2416 02:20:46,710 --> 02:20:50,100 people will DM those people and say, hey, you know, calm down, 2417 02:20:50,100 --> 02:20:52,380 it's not that big a deal. And you know, so they're trying to 2418 02:20:52,380 --> 02:20:56,670 console them. Now talk them off the ledge. But, but it's, 2419 02:20:56,700 --> 02:20:58,290 John C Dvorak: it's I've never seen that 2420 02:20:58,380 --> 02:21:00,240 Adam Curry: not because you don't see the DMS because their 2421 02:21:00,240 --> 02:21:04,050 DMS, the private direct messages, you can't see them. 2422 02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:09,180 Okay, I think the problem with this is when you have someone 2423 02:21:09,180 --> 02:21:13,230 who posts something, and then all the replies have equal 2424 02:21:13,230 --> 02:21:16,620 weighting equal weight, so they're the same size, you know, 2425 02:21:16,710 --> 02:21:18,240 it looks like an original post. 2426 02:21:18,780 --> 02:21:21,690 John C Dvorak: But it'd be like, like Digg, where you get up and 2427 02:21:21,690 --> 02:21:25,380 down, voted and then type font changes. And 2428 02:21:26,460 --> 02:21:28,710 Adam Curry: I'm just thinking just you can't comment. You can 2429 02:21:28,710 --> 02:21:32,550 only post No comments. You just quit. You can post you can't 2430 02:21:32,550 --> 02:21:36,690 respond anybody. Oh, that would make more sense. Do you like it? 2431 02:21:37,260 --> 02:21:40,170 I see you yelling at people all the time. I'm not 2432 02:21:40,170 --> 02:21:46,590 John C Dvorak: yelling at anybody. Okay, now you had to 2433 02:21:46,590 --> 02:21:51,540 find it. Okay. I want to see an example next time you see when I 2434 02:21:51,540 --> 02:21:53,730 want you to put it aside and then bring it up on the show and 2435 02:21:53,730 --> 02:21:55,110 then condemn me. Well, I 2436 02:21:55,110 --> 02:21:58,500 Adam Curry: can very easily do it right now. Go Jhansi Devorah. 2437 02:21:58,500 --> 02:22:01,980 I will find anything you will the absolute Johnson vorak. I'm 2438 02:22:01,980 --> 02:22:07,860 gonna go to posts and replies. Okay. And here we go. Let me 2439 02:22:07,860 --> 02:22:09,180 just scroll down a little bit 2440 02:22:19,140 --> 02:22:23,880 how does be provocative cross any line? There you go. This one 2441 02:22:23,880 --> 02:22:25,800 right there. That's you. That's you yelling 2442 02:22:27,360 --> 02:22:28,620 John C Dvorak: and you're listening caps. 2443 02:22:29,010 --> 02:22:31,680 Adam Curry: Oh, it has to be in caps. Okay. All right. 2444 02:22:31,710 --> 02:22:33,390 John C Dvorak: I just see yelling. I just hear your 2445 02:22:33,390 --> 02:22:41,010 Adam Curry: voice when I know your voice. Low. free donuts. 2446 02:22:41,010 --> 02:22:43,710 See there it is that yelling again at people about free 2447 02:22:43,710 --> 02:22:44,520 John C Dvorak: donors. Yeah. 2448 02:22:47,940 --> 02:22:50,190 Adam Curry: Yes, all of the trolls record by the 2449 02:22:50,190 --> 02:22:57,330 John C Dvorak: way. Yes. So one of our policemen says me. Some 2450 02:22:57,330 --> 02:23:02,130 Krispy Kreme Doughnuts. Get it to the mailbox. 2451 02:23:02,340 --> 02:23:04,170 Adam Curry: Oh, how'd they arrive? 2452 02:23:04,830 --> 02:23:08,250 John C Dvorak: to rove like they would have it doesn't matter if 2453 02:23:08,250 --> 02:23:11,700 they're 10 minutes. unfresh. Or? It could be a month. It's all 2454 02:23:11,700 --> 02:23:16,230 the same? Yeah. And then he demanded a D douching. For some 2455 02:23:16,260 --> 02:23:21,900 unknown reason. And now. Thanks for the doughnuts. Doughnuts. 2456 02:23:22,260 --> 02:23:24,690 Adam Curry: Yeah, well, is that not treasure? Is that not 2457 02:23:24,690 --> 02:23:25,020 treasure? 2458 02:23:25,770 --> 02:23:27,810 John C Dvorak: I guess he says they're delicious. 2459 02:23:29,160 --> 02:23:34,380 Adam Curry: So you should posted a note in the social angrily 2460 02:23:34,380 --> 02:23:37,920 post. What did donut angrily that you're not giving him a 2461 02:23:37,920 --> 02:23:39,600 deducing? Oh, no, 2462 02:23:39,690 --> 02:23:42,000 John C Dvorak: I just said it. Yeah. Okay. He knows he listens. 2463 02:23:42,060 --> 02:23:44,100 He knows what he's doing. So 2464 02:23:44,130 --> 02:23:46,320 Adam Curry: do you send my portion of the doughnuts to me? 2465 02:23:47,940 --> 02:23:49,440 John C Dvorak: Yours the ones that went bad? 2466 02:23:49,470 --> 02:23:55,080 Adam Curry: Of course. Yes, the old wine cask. This is a value 2467 02:23:55,080 --> 02:23:59,760 for value show. And we've been doing that for 16 years. And I 2468 02:23:59,790 --> 02:24:06,030 personally love it. This is the longest job I've ever had. It is 2469 02:24:06,060 --> 02:24:09,840 not what I'm paid for what I'm made for. I enjoy it so much. 2470 02:24:10,080 --> 02:24:14,280 And that's because we have time, talent and treasure sent back to 2471 02:24:14,280 --> 02:24:18,060 us. So the deal is, here's the show twice a week, three hours 2472 02:24:18,090 --> 02:24:22,620 minimum sometimes longer, that you enjoy it as long as you want 2473 02:24:22,620 --> 02:24:25,890 for whatever you want to do, do whatever you want. And if you 2474 02:24:25,920 --> 02:24:28,980 think that it's valuable enough to keep it going then you send 2475 02:24:28,980 --> 02:24:31,620 something back to us now a lot of people like to send us talent 2476 02:24:31,620 --> 02:24:34,740 and treasure which is very appreciate highly appreciated 2477 02:24:34,740 --> 02:24:37,260 because many of these things we could never do. We could never 2478 02:24:37,260 --> 02:24:41,100 have artists that supply us with nonstop artwork to choose from 2479 02:24:41,100 --> 02:24:44,100 for every single episode that would bankrupt us right there. 2480 02:24:44,100 --> 02:24:48,060 Just that one gesture alone. That no agenda social you 2481 02:24:48,060 --> 02:24:50,790 kidding me. I had to give that that's a full time job. That's 2482 02:24:50,790 --> 02:24:53,730 what Aaron er does. Then he needs you know, he has to take 2483 02:24:53,730 --> 02:24:57,330 all kinds of SSRIs and everything and Xanax to stay 2484 02:24:57,330 --> 02:25:02,070 calm. So we couldn't have done any of them. We can no agenda 2485 02:25:02,070 --> 02:25:06,120 meet ups.com Same thing. We get stories boots on the ground 2486 02:25:06,210 --> 02:25:11,070 donuts clips store. I mean everything you can imagine, is 2487 02:25:11,070 --> 02:25:14,910 brought to this show from our producers. And we'd like to 2488 02:25:15,000 --> 02:25:19,350 thank the artist who brought us the artwork that we chose for 2489 02:25:19,350 --> 02:25:24,300 the previous episode and then 1604 We titled that one janky a 2490 02:25:24,330 --> 02:25:30,060 lot of people love the title janky is a good word. And and I 2491 02:25:30,060 --> 02:25:33,840 think I'm pronouncing his name right this time Matt Boyer. Matt 2492 02:25:33,840 --> 02:25:39,390 Boyd air above air Boisvert if you pronounce it, the way it's 2493 02:25:39,390 --> 02:25:43,230 written, Matt bow bear brought us the artwork that we we kind 2494 02:25:43,230 --> 02:25:47,100 of jumped on right away. There was the two signs the signposts 2495 02:25:47,100 --> 02:25:50,040 old school one pointing to the right one pointing to the left 2496 02:25:50,400 --> 02:25:54,090 anti Semites 33 miles to the right Islamophobes 33 miles to 2497 02:25:54,090 --> 02:25:58,080 the left and it kind of is right up our alley. I guess this is 2498 02:25:58,080 --> 02:26:00,630 exactly where we want to be with the show. 2499 02:26:03,060 --> 02:26:05,820 John C Dvorak: Yeah, the same was the one I mean there was 2500 02:26:05,850 --> 02:26:07,650 there was art that was usable. 2501 02:26:07,890 --> 02:26:10,200 Adam Curry: A lot of people had the Fredericksburg Declaration, 2502 02:26:10,200 --> 02:26:10,680 which we 2503 02:26:10,740 --> 02:26:12,510 John C Dvorak: Yeah, they liked that. I mean, that wasn't going 2504 02:26:12,510 --> 02:26:16,230 to happen because we don't have a declaration yet. like kinda 2505 02:26:16,230 --> 02:26:19,380 like you know, Darren again goes with the obvious the easiest 2506 02:26:19,380 --> 02:26:22,320 thing you need to remember to joke he does the booms there 2507 02:26:22,320 --> 02:26:22,890 immediately. 2508 02:26:22,890 --> 02:26:26,070 Adam Curry: Jen Psaki with the clown nose was by 2509 02:26:26,070 --> 02:26:27,990 John C Dvorak: the way, I will say this the nose should be 2510 02:26:27,990 --> 02:26:29,670 bigger. Yeah. 2511 02:26:31,980 --> 02:26:34,950 Adam Curry: Lenski in heaven with a Gaddafi No, that's not 2512 02:26:34,950 --> 02:26:38,010 happening. That's too much dead stuff. No, that wasn't gonna 2513 02:26:38,010 --> 02:26:43,110 happen. Boot jokes. No, no, no boot jokes. That's Ron DeSantis 2514 02:26:43,110 --> 02:26:46,170 that's a that's a pool boy joke. We're not going to participate 2515 02:26:46,170 --> 02:26:50,640 in that. What else was there anything else that we liked? 2516 02:26:52,410 --> 02:26:54,840 John C Dvorak: I thought it was the stop AI with the six fingers 2517 02:26:54,840 --> 02:26:58,530 I thought it was cute. But it wasn't gonna be used I also 2518 02:26:58,530 --> 02:27:03,420 liked actually did like the Scarah mangas drunk robot which 2519 02:27:03,420 --> 02:27:06,930 I just thought was funny. But that was gonna get used probably 2520 02:27:06,960 --> 02:27:09,480 died. This This piece was probably the only one that was 2521 02:27:09,510 --> 02:27:10,290 going to get 2522 02:27:11,280 --> 02:27:13,650 Adam Curry: drunk robot. I did I miss that down 2523 02:27:13,650 --> 02:27:15,900 John C Dvorak: near the bottom and it's under Jen Sakis. Red 2524 02:27:16,320 --> 02:27:17,970 clown nose. Oh, great. 2525 02:27:17,970 --> 02:27:22,050 Adam Curry: Yeah, the drunk robot drinking club. Yes. And 2526 02:27:22,080 --> 02:27:25,920 oh, yeah, we did have some. Some Well, this is also Matt Bow Bow 2527 02:27:25,920 --> 02:27:31,830 bear. He had a Lenski coke image. Which by itself was a 2528 02:27:31,830 --> 02:27:34,140 Lenski with a lot of powder around his nose was 2529 02:27:34,140 --> 02:27:36,840 John C Dvorak: funny. Yeah, the powder around his nose was 2530 02:27:36,840 --> 02:27:41,370 funny. It was That was good. But but the pile of coke itself was 2531 02:27:41,370 --> 02:27:44,160 not artistic. It didn't look like it looked like a small 2532 02:27:44,160 --> 02:27:47,340 mountain then to top it off of the polar bear that made no 2533 02:27:47,340 --> 02:27:49,230 sense. made no sense. 2534 02:27:49,290 --> 02:27:51,630 Adam Curry: I mean, I know we had altered media stamped on it. 2535 02:27:51,630 --> 02:27:53,070 But now it's 2536 02:27:54,630 --> 02:27:57,240 John C Dvorak: there was too bad. But I do like to have the 2537 02:27:58,080 --> 02:28:02,100 Zelinsky face with the powder on his face is very funny. 2538 02:28:05,400 --> 02:28:09,210 Adam Curry: If you were to kill switch, there was a Jordan 2539 02:28:09,210 --> 02:28:15,540 Peterson with the hideous jacket. Which one one note is 2540 02:28:15,540 --> 02:28:19,620 actually mirrored. The blue is on the other side in the red. So 2541 02:28:19,620 --> 02:28:22,170 the red and the blue are on the other side on the real jacket. 2542 02:28:22,470 --> 02:28:27,450 Man. Did you see amazing Polly about the art conference? No. 2543 02:28:28,530 --> 02:28:31,050 John C Dvorak: I haven't seen amazing Polly for almost a year 2544 02:28:31,080 --> 02:28:33,480 Adam Curry: she went all the way bedsheets and brought up that 2545 02:28:33,480 --> 02:28:37,710 Jerome dude, there was there was some tree from Sweden or 2546 02:28:37,710 --> 02:28:41,490 something. He's also high in the organization high up. I mean, 2547 02:28:41,490 --> 02:28:44,580 he's a climate change guy. And he's like, you know, climate 2548 02:28:44,580 --> 02:28:46,710 change is happening. It's real. But you know, we just want to 2549 02:28:46,710 --> 02:28:49,860 make sure we do it responsibly or something like that. You 2550 02:28:49,860 --> 02:28:52,650 know, we we don't want to you know, we don't want to make poor 2551 02:28:52,650 --> 02:28:56,790 nations even poor with what me what? So they're all in on 2552 02:28:56,790 --> 02:29:04,380 climate change now. Weird. Weird. Yeah, she had some pretty 2553 02:29:04,380 --> 02:29:05,940 good, pretty good breakdown. 2554 02:29:06,240 --> 02:29:11,790 John C Dvorak: Where she's young. She on RUMBLE, RUMBLE 2555 02:29:11,790 --> 02:29:12,810 bitch. Shoot. 2556 02:29:13,860 --> 02:29:18,420 Adam Curry: I think she's on rumble. I think. Yeah, I don't 2557 02:29:18,420 --> 02:29:20,610 know. I hadn't seen her for a while either. Someone sent me a 2558 02:29:20,610 --> 02:29:24,600 link. Oh, that's right. I got it from David Icke. David I again, 2559 02:29:24,600 --> 02:29:28,980 I've noticed he wasn't invited to ark. He isn't he's not part 2560 02:29:28,980 --> 02:29:31,680 of the show. She can't she couldn't know she wanted to do 2561 02:29:31,680 --> 02:29:35,880 she connected the Ark thing to she got it all the way to 2562 02:29:36,360 --> 02:29:40,080 Candace Owens. And there's a lot of interesting connections with 2563 02:29:40,080 --> 02:29:40,590 these people. 2564 02:29:40,620 --> 02:29:42,390 John C Dvorak: It's kind of a Yeah, that's one of the best. 2565 02:29:42,600 --> 02:29:46,380 She does that better than anyone. Now. I will say she's 2566 02:29:46,410 --> 02:29:49,560 always been good at connecting dots that are like, well, that's 2567 02:29:49,560 --> 02:29:52,740 kind of far out and then she manages to do it. It's very 2568 02:29:52,740 --> 02:29:55,530 difficult to persuade. Oh, see, hear from it that much. They 2569 02:29:55,530 --> 02:29:59,220 can't she definitely doesn't do two shows a week. No, no, no, 2570 02:29:59,220 --> 02:29:59,970 she doesn't do 2571 02:30:01,170 --> 02:30:05,430 Adam Curry: Anyway, we always like to thank our executive and 2572 02:30:05,430 --> 02:30:09,030 Associate Executive producers at the top of our donation segment 2573 02:30:09,030 --> 02:30:11,400 After thanking, of course, the valley and explaining value for 2574 02:30:11,400 --> 02:30:15,090 value once again, because people need to understand what it is 2575 02:30:15,090 --> 02:30:17,520 and why we do what we do. And that's mainly so we don't have 2576 02:30:17,520 --> 02:30:20,310 to have meetings with advertisers, which just make the 2577 02:30:20,310 --> 02:30:23,700 content suck anyway. So that's not going to work. So you have 2578 02:30:23,700 --> 02:30:26,610 to keep us alive. And as long as you do, we'll be here as long as 2579 02:30:26,610 --> 02:30:31,950 we're alive. And you keep us alive. We'll be here. So we look 2580 02:30:31,950 --> 02:30:37,290 at the at the donations from top to bottom and right off the bat 2581 02:30:37,290 --> 02:30:43,980 we start with Dan Duchess Chem, keeper of the nutty fluffers no 2582 02:30:43,980 --> 02:30:49,260 stranger to the show. Hubbard Oregon $2,000. And let me read 2583 02:30:49,260 --> 02:30:54,690 her notes because she sent in a typed note in the morning, Adam 2584 02:30:54,750 --> 02:30:58,320 and John screw your freedom. Oh, no, that's her jingles what she 2585 02:30:58,320 --> 02:31:01,740 wants screw your freedom little girl. Yeah, a our two d two 2586 02:31:01,740 --> 02:31:06,720 cancer karma, please. Yes, we can do that for you. 1000 PhD 2587 02:31:06,720 --> 02:31:10,650 was just too good to pass up. 1000 To go to John and grumpy 2588 02:31:10,650 --> 02:31:15,240 old miner in Tucson. 1000 go to John the grumpy old miner in 2589 02:31:15,240 --> 02:31:18,870 Tucson and I will take one for myself please. Thanks for all 2590 02:31:18,870 --> 02:31:22,650 you to do. You are both invaluable, Dutchess Chem keeper 2591 02:31:22,650 --> 02:31:27,420 of the nutty fluffer so she will have to do two PhD submissions 2592 02:31:27,420 --> 02:31:27,990 then right. 2593 02:31:28,890 --> 02:31:31,290 John C Dvorak: You have to go to the ring site no agenda 2594 02:31:31,290 --> 02:31:35,430 rings.com I guess Yeah. Okay, and there's a there's now a link 2595 02:31:35,430 --> 02:31:39,300 to the putting your data into the filling out a form so you 2596 02:31:39,300 --> 02:31:43,410 get the right name on the Diploma in recommend using your 2597 02:31:43,410 --> 02:31:47,910 name. There's no other word is the diplomas pretty, you know, 2598 02:31:47,940 --> 02:31:51,150 straightforward boilerplate Yeah, yes. And we should be 2599 02:31:51,330 --> 02:31:54,660 shipping us some tomorrow the big bulk of them be shipped out 2600 02:31:54,660 --> 02:31:57,120 on the 15th with the rings calling the J 2601 02:31:57,150 --> 02:32:00,330 Adam Curry: yeah I got a notification that my my diploma 2602 02:32:00,330 --> 02:32:02,250 was on its way I'm very excited about 2603 02:32:02,250 --> 02:32:03,930 John C Dvorak: that. You got it got it by now I 2604 02:32:03,930 --> 02:32:05,700 Adam Curry: thought it may be in the mail I'll check 2605 02:32:07,170 --> 02:32:08,130 John C Dvorak: Mail on Sunday. 2606 02:32:08,160 --> 02:32:09,420 Adam Curry: Oh here we go. Screw 2607 02:32:09,420 --> 02:32:10,260 Unknown: you freedom 2608 02:32:18,720 --> 02:32:19,350 karma 2609 02:32:21,420 --> 02:32:23,760 John C Dvorak: there we have another $1,000 from Sir Grease 2610 02:32:23,760 --> 02:32:29,610 Monkey. Fine. Finally. paying my tuition so you will release my 2611 02:32:29,610 --> 02:32:33,300 degree. Like any other accredited university, which 2612 02:32:33,300 --> 02:32:37,650 we're not no we're not that. This were the no agenda show. 2613 02:32:37,740 --> 02:32:40,770 Secondly, full payment of tuition brings me to Baron good. 2614 02:32:41,190 --> 02:32:44,730 I would like to retain my name of Sir Grease Monkey and become 2615 02:32:44,730 --> 02:32:47,100 barren of the Permian Basin. 2616 02:32:49,320 --> 02:32:52,860 Adam Curry: Done, okay. I'll make that happen for Don Vikon 2617 02:32:52,860 --> 02:32:56,970 Steven Dean 1000. And he says, Oh, this is sad. In loving 2618 02:32:56,970 --> 02:33:03,330 memory of Judy Dean, who passed suddenly after tooth surgery on 2619 02:33:03,330 --> 02:33:06,510 1023 23 That's horrible. Yeah, 2620 02:33:06,510 --> 02:33:08,970 John C Dvorak: it could happen to you. She always told me 2621 02:33:10,020 --> 02:33:12,540 Adam Curry: she always told me to go back to school and become 2622 02:33:12,540 --> 02:33:18,690 a doctor. Well here you go Mom. Probe whatever works. Probate 2623 02:33:18,690 --> 02:33:23,040 can't probate. Listen to me probate karma please. Vikon 2624 02:33:23,040 --> 02:33:26,940 Stephen dean of the Fox River Valley in Chicago. burbs sorry 2625 02:33:26,940 --> 02:33:27,750 to hear that by Count 2626 02:33:27,780 --> 02:33:29,370 Unknown: you've got karma. 2627 02:33:31,020 --> 02:33:32,910 John C Dvorak: Jennifer Derrick's is up with another 2628 02:33:32,910 --> 02:33:38,100 1000 Happy 16th anniversary she writes ITM if I get a dame name 2629 02:33:38,100 --> 02:33:42,270 please make it Jennifer on the mountain. That's all thanks. 2630 02:33:42,450 --> 02:33:46,320 Adam Curry: Beautiful. Andrew Williams 1000 request douchebag 2631 02:33:46,320 --> 02:33:50,520 check F cancer and jobs karma ITM here's some value for the 2632 02:33:50,520 --> 02:33:53,370 fantastic content produced by everyone and delivered with 2633 02:33:53,400 --> 02:33:58,170 aplomb by the dynamic duo every week. Thank you. PS John. I 2634 02:33:58,170 --> 02:34:01,530 always enjoy the perfectly timed whimsical folly. It always 2635 02:34:01,530 --> 02:34:05,670 brings a smile please Knight me sir socks of the low pressure. 2636 02:34:06,000 --> 02:34:10,380 And he has roundtable request. Westinghouse silver liners and 2637 02:34:10,380 --> 02:34:15,330 Thorn beta fives Do you have any idea what that is? No. 2638 02:34:21,540 --> 02:34:26,820 Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for Jobs 2639 02:34:31,980 --> 02:34:40,350 John C Dvorak: got karma I have no idea. Sir layer on another 2640 02:34:40,350 --> 02:34:44,640 1000 out of breath queuing up near the end of the line for my 2641 02:34:44,640 --> 02:34:48,840 diploma. The show is still interesting. Thank you. The 2642 02:34:48,840 --> 02:34:54,000 stole the show is interesting. And entertaining. After all 2643 02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:56,910 these years I've been listening no jingles no karma. Sir Rachael 2644 02:34:56,940 --> 02:35:04,290 Ray has shown that up doped up Faster labor on of the wire grip 2645 02:35:04,410 --> 02:35:08,160 of the wire grass aka Doc Martin PhD, 2646 02:35:08,400 --> 02:35:14,340 Adam Curry: you gotta duck. Anika Weber Parts Unknown 1000 2647 02:35:14,940 --> 02:35:17,160 I'd like to be known as Dame Annika of the Pensacola 2648 02:35:17,160 --> 02:35:20,070 homestead Maga she's from Pensacola. I was hit in the 2649 02:35:20,070 --> 02:35:23,370 mouth by my douchebag friend Scott during the pandemic and 2650 02:35:23,370 --> 02:35:26,700 can't get enough of your media deconstruction. I've been 2651 02:35:26,700 --> 02:35:29,130 holding off on donating because we are still paying for our 2652 02:35:29,130 --> 02:35:33,330 house in Tennessee praying to close any day now. However, I 2653 02:35:33,330 --> 02:35:37,800 encountered the number 33 Three times in two days. I knew it was 2654 02:35:37,800 --> 02:35:41,280 time to donate and request some house selling karma while I 2655 02:35:41,280 --> 02:35:44,670 placed my trust in God, I figured this can hurt. Thank you 2656 02:35:44,670 --> 02:35:47,790 both for all you do. I seriously can't get enough I'm listening 2657 02:35:47,790 --> 02:35:53,880 to all your old stuff to on episode 869 swamp of crazy. The 2658 02:35:53,880 --> 02:35:59,190 election stuff is fun to relive. Really it's fun to relive. 2659 02:35:59,880 --> 02:36:03,210 John C Dvorak: Seems likely. very respectfully Annika Here 2660 02:36:03,210 --> 02:36:03,960 you go. Annika, 2661 02:36:03,960 --> 02:36:04,740 Adam Curry: here's your karma. 2662 02:36:04,830 --> 02:36:06,510 Unknown: You've got karma. 2663 02:36:08,760 --> 02:36:12,240 John C Dvorak: Okay, now you got Mike Statum Statum and he's in 2664 02:36:12,240 --> 02:36:18,660 late in late in Florida and he was in Florida. I've already 2665 02:36:18,660 --> 02:36:27,660 skipped to the Utah Utah and Layton Utah and he wrote whereas 2666 02:36:27,660 --> 02:36:29,400 this is his 2667 02:36:29,760 --> 02:36:32,250 Adam Curry: Yeah, Ph. D. Donation part all 2668 02:36:32,280 --> 02:36:34,410 John C Dvorak: night of Parts Unknown. Okay, it's gonna be the 2669 02:36:34,410 --> 02:36:38,580 nights of Parts Unknown jingles F 35. Karma. Mike's he didn't 2670 02:36:38,580 --> 02:36:41,310 have really much to say so he's got his PhD in there and then a 2671 02:36:41,310 --> 02:36:45,480 bunch of other donations listed. So good. Okay. Thanks, Mike. F 2672 02:36:45,480 --> 02:36:46,350 35 Karma. 2673 02:36:48,420 --> 02:36:52,770 Unknown: You've got karma 2674 02:36:54,690 --> 02:36:57,000 John C Dvorak: it's gotten popular, sir. Yes, 2675 02:36:57,060 --> 02:36:59,670 Adam Curry: sir. Tommy Hawk, Iowa City bows your bank doing 2676 02:37:00,240 --> 02:37:03,570 359 In the morning Jen says donation isn't to honor the 2677 02:37:03,570 --> 02:37:08,580 passing of Nora Lee Ballmer, who lived 95 years at full throttle. 2678 02:37:08,610 --> 02:37:12,450 I love hearing that that's what I want is when I go is like he 2679 02:37:12,450 --> 02:37:17,220 lived at full throttle. That's right. The Iowa City area is 2680 02:37:17,220 --> 02:37:21,090 better for having her around. I bet she thanks you for your 2681 02:37:21,090 --> 02:37:24,360 courage rest easy Grammy. Sir Tommy Hawk Baron of the 2682 02:37:24,360 --> 02:37:25,680 heartland indeed. 2683 02:37:27,090 --> 02:37:29,850 John C Dvorak: To J K in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Go packers is up 2684 02:37:29,850 --> 02:37:35,460 next. Three Three 3.33 needs some house selling karma of the 2685 02:37:35,460 --> 02:37:41,340 goat variety jet guy variety thanks. So you get go goat 2686 02:37:41,340 --> 02:37:44,760 versus jet guy variety. So you got both of them alright, thanks 2687 02:37:44,760 --> 02:37:48,150 gents for all you do sir. J K in Green Bay night of the 2688 02:37:48,180 --> 02:37:50,220 entertaining kerfluffle 2689 02:37:52,230 --> 02:37:53,040 Unknown: you've got 2690 02:37:58,530 --> 02:38:02,850 you've got karma 2691 02:38:05,790 --> 02:38:08,040 Adam Curry: now Bruce Suam. Do we have a note from him? Or is 2692 02:38:08,040 --> 02:38:08,760 that just this 2693 02:38:08,760 --> 02:38:13,230 John C Dvorak: is a check that came in 23456 I don't have a 2694 02:38:13,230 --> 02:38:16,890 note sorry that Bruce usually says something. You've got 2695 02:38:19,050 --> 02:38:22,650 Adam Curry: karma double up karma. I'll do this one 2696 02:38:22,650 --> 02:38:25,680 Harrisburg. This probably guy blows off your spreadsheet. This 2697 02:38:25,680 --> 02:38:29,370 is from sir. Thanks a lot. Mansfield. Texas row ducks. 2698 02:38:29,370 --> 02:38:34,830 2222. It's now official Ashlynn speed that no agenda racer is, 2699 02:38:34,920 --> 02:38:40,560 though. Oh my goodness. To do this officially, is the winner 2700 02:38:40,560 --> 02:38:45,300 of the 2023 SCCA Southern Conference Championship in the 2701 02:38:45,300 --> 02:38:54,450 formula. And she actually has no agenda on her car. Yes, cute. 2702 02:38:54,510 --> 02:38:58,980 And today's her 17th birthday. Can you believe that she kicks 2703 02:38:59,100 --> 02:39:02,400 butt on these cars. Happy birthday to my only human 2704 02:39:02,400 --> 02:39:06,750 resource and hope for a future a patriotic Texas proud God 2705 02:39:06,750 --> 02:39:10,380 fearing resourceful and humorous teenager, she seems well on our 2706 02:39:10,380 --> 02:39:14,910 way to all of that. In 2024, she'll be going for the SCCA 2707 02:39:14,940 --> 02:39:17,910 national championship in the very fast and highly competitive 2708 02:39:18,030 --> 02:39:22,680 formula enterprises series. So that's the open open car fast. 2709 02:39:22,890 --> 02:39:27,270 Of course, we couldn't do this without any Can't we couldn't do 2710 02:39:27,270 --> 02:39:32,130 this without sponsors. So check this out. A lovely producer has 2711 02:39:32,130 --> 02:39:36,210 set up a Gibson GO Campaign. What a sweetheart so if you 2712 02:39:36,240 --> 02:39:38,760 first of all, if you want to be a sponsor, if you want to be on 2713 02:39:38,760 --> 02:39:43,740 her car, then you can contact her. It's Gibson go.com/ashlynn 2714 02:39:43,740 --> 02:39:48,060 speed with a why to be part of the racing excitement. Yes, you 2715 02:39:48,060 --> 02:39:51,030 probably get pit passes to if you know of a business who would 2716 02:39:51,030 --> 02:39:55,140 want to be a sponsor. What you would get pit pass what you do. 2717 02:39:55,140 --> 02:39:57,960 That's the whole point. That's what Formula One is about you 2718 02:39:57,960 --> 02:40:02,280 take care of your clients and Have a good time and like a 2719 02:40:02,280 --> 02:40:05,700 hotshot, especially if you got a winning driver. By 2720 02:40:05,700 --> 02:40:09,630 John C Dvorak: the way, this girl is going to go far, just 2721 02:40:09,630 --> 02:40:15,270 from the karmic aspect of her being named Ashlynn speed. I 2722 02:40:15,270 --> 02:40:16,890 mean, please raise 2723 02:40:16,890 --> 02:40:19,920 Adam Curry: her baby. Oh, yeah, no, she has she has Mac's 2724 02:40:19,920 --> 02:40:21,630 written all over her. That 2725 02:40:21,630 --> 02:40:23,280 John C Dvorak: she'll be up there. I think she can do she 2726 02:40:23,280 --> 02:40:27,570 could do f1 I really do. She could do f1 For sure that's 2727 02:40:27,570 --> 02:40:29,160 where she's headed. If you 2728 02:40:29,160 --> 02:40:30,840 Adam Curry: know the business would want to be a sponsor, 2729 02:40:30,840 --> 02:40:34,110 please email sponsor at Ashlyn speed.com Thank you for your 2730 02:40:34,110 --> 02:40:36,750 courage to all have no agenda nation for supporting us on the 2731 02:40:36,750 --> 02:40:40,200 socials. For jingo, Please play the sound you make when driving 2732 02:40:40,200 --> 02:40:42,540 a race car which is we 2733 02:40:48,030 --> 02:40:50,580 were very proud of it. We're very proud of Ashton. We're very 2734 02:40:50,580 --> 02:40:53,730 very proud of ash and we we've been on racing cars before but 2735 02:40:53,730 --> 02:40:57,750 never on a winner. This is this is great. We're on a when is us 2736 02:40:57,750 --> 02:41:00,360 John C Dvorak: we also on a bike. Yeah, that's true. Wyndham 2737 02:41:00,360 --> 02:41:03,900 in Spring, Texas is up with another row of ducks. 22222 no 2738 02:41:03,900 --> 02:41:06,990 note from him. It came in as a check, back check and so we'll 2739 02:41:06,990 --> 02:41:08,730 give him a double double up karma. 2740 02:41:08,910 --> 02:41:14,670 Adam Curry: You've got karma. And as we neared the end of our 2741 02:41:14,670 --> 02:41:18,870 Associate Executive Producers Vincent John Miller in Kailua. 2742 02:41:18,900 --> 02:41:24,120 Hawaii 201 17 interesting number Hey, John Adam, I am no longer 2743 02:41:24,120 --> 02:41:26,940 an unemployed douchebag because of this podcast, please the 2744 02:41:26,940 --> 02:41:34,410 douche. De douche and here's the backstory. In fact, Dame TJ of 2745 02:41:34,410 --> 02:41:38,460 the side I hired me and then worked closely with Mike and I 2746 02:41:38,460 --> 02:41:41,040 work closely with my team which includes a longtime night and 2747 02:41:41,040 --> 02:41:44,700 two others on their way to Damon knighthood. That's that's a 2748 02:41:44,700 --> 02:41:48,540 success story. When we're not in a group chatting about no agenda 2749 02:41:48,540 --> 02:41:52,290 or weekly meetings, we save companies a ton of money on 2750 02:41:52,290 --> 02:41:58,380 their bottom line at otter and mule.com. That's otter and 2751 02:41:58,380 --> 02:42:03,390 mule.com. Oh, by the way, the Brown family from Florida are 2752 02:42:03,390 --> 02:42:09,000 douchebags yesterday. Sincerely Vincent John Miller in Hawaii. A 2753 02:42:09,000 --> 02:42:12,150 hui who in such gotta bro thank you so much. 2754 02:42:12,240 --> 02:42:14,010 John C Dvorak: We wrap it up with Linda LAPACK in in 2755 02:42:14,010 --> 02:42:18,090 Lakewood, Colorado to in her books. And she writes what she's 2756 02:42:18,090 --> 02:42:23,130 got new copy. Oh, I'll talk to her. It was a Texas through the 2757 02:42:23,130 --> 02:42:28,590 teeth accent Amish makers inc.com with a que declaration. 2758 02:42:29,070 --> 02:42:33,240 Whilst navigating a competitive job market improve your odds 2759 02:42:33,240 --> 02:42:37,140 with a remarkable executive resume that drives rapid 2760 02:42:37,140 --> 02:42:41,880 results. Just find Linda LAPACK in on the producer list. Jobs 2761 02:42:41,880 --> 02:42:42,780 karma, please. 2762 02:42:42,810 --> 02:42:45,360 Adam Curry: She must be doing an A B testing now with her 2763 02:42:46,560 --> 02:42:51,870 Unknown: with her jobs maybe? Maybe maybe not and jobs for 2764 02:42:51,870 --> 02:42:52,560 jobs. 2765 02:42:57,630 --> 02:42:59,580 Adam Curry: Y'all crack me up. Thank you so much to our 2766 02:42:59,580 --> 02:43:01,980 executive and Associate Executive producers. You're 2767 02:43:01,980 --> 02:43:06,120 always coming in big covenant strong and your PhDs are ready 2768 02:43:06,120 --> 02:43:10,110 for you. I'll be conducting the ceremony in just a moment along 2769 02:43:10,110 --> 02:43:13,320 with the Knights and Dames and title changes. Thank you again 2770 02:43:13,320 --> 02:43:16,770 for supporting us here on episode 1605. John's gonna take 2771 02:43:16,770 --> 02:43:18,090 us through to the 50s 2772 02:43:18,270 --> 02:43:20,520 John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have a few more that Ron Sherman's 2773 02:43:20,520 --> 02:43:25,260 leaves us off from Colorado Springs, Colorado. 160 and 40 2774 02:43:25,260 --> 02:43:32,070 cents. John rubbin $100 Rowan pike on her dollars and he has a 2775 02:43:32,070 --> 02:43:35,640 note which you can look at if this douching or anything in 2776 02:43:35,640 --> 02:43:39,990 there. I don't think I have in German in North Tora Mora New 2777 02:43:39,990 --> 02:43:45,840 South Wales Australia. 808 as you says he forgot to get 2778 02:43:45,840 --> 02:43:48,570 knighted. So I guess he's a bit No, no, hold on a 2779 02:43:48,570 --> 02:43:51,570 Adam Curry: sec. No. You said Ivan. His name is David. 2780 02:43:52,410 --> 02:43:53,280 John C Dvorak: Did I say Ivan? 2781 02:43:53,310 --> 02:43:57,150 Adam Curry: I think you did. Wow. Yeah, that's concerning. 2782 02:43:58,080 --> 02:44:01,260 Now did we did we forget him what happened? But no. 2783 02:44:01,980 --> 02:44:04,350 John C Dvorak: Need to tell us his night name or something? 2784 02:44:04,350 --> 02:44:05,250 That's his fault. 2785 02:44:05,580 --> 02:44:08,460 Adam Curry: He's not a black knight. Now er, keep up the 2786 02:44:08,460 --> 02:44:09,180 brilliant he wants 2787 02:44:09,180 --> 02:44:11,190 John C Dvorak: to be a black knight like you did like many 2788 02:44:11,190 --> 02:44:13,650 others. It has to be our mistake. Yeah, so 2789 02:44:13,890 --> 02:44:16,830 Adam Curry: he will be Sir David callsign Barney Jarman, 2790 02:44:16,830 --> 02:44:20,520 protector of the Aussie pilots. You got it? Christian 2791 02:44:20,520 --> 02:44:26,610 John C Dvorak: growl Grealish relation we got Ivan from I 2792 02:44:26,610 --> 02:44:31,980 don't know ma'am. What is it What are you drinking relish in 2793 02:44:31,980 --> 02:44:36,210 Blake lend the Florida 808 Birthday donation we got you. 2794 02:44:36,660 --> 02:44:39,840 Kevin McLaughlin arias in Concord North Carolina. He is 2795 02:44:39,840 --> 02:44:44,310 the Archduke of Luna lover American moves and he has 1605 2796 02:44:44,310 --> 02:44:49,590 Boob donation he has he's lost his ability to add to Asia he 2797 02:44:49,590 --> 02:44:50,760 Adam Curry: ran out of melons. 2798 02:44:51,840 --> 02:44:54,570 John C Dvorak: Sir herb lamb and Sugar Hill Georgie never used 2799 02:44:54,570 --> 02:45:01,470 headlamps by the way. 808 you He's also 2800 02:45:01,530 --> 02:45:03,840 Adam Curry: now he's back. He was overboard due to work but 2801 02:45:03,840 --> 02:45:05,970 he's catching up. All right, welcome back Duke with the deep 2802 02:45:05,970 --> 02:45:06,180 state 2803 02:45:06,180 --> 02:45:08,490 John C Dvorak: oh eight and welcome to Duke of the South. 2804 02:45:08,550 --> 02:45:12,990 Deep South Deep South, right way in Kartini in Torrington, 2805 02:45:12,990 --> 02:45:18,420 Connecticut 7421. Jersey yo Hannes Seegers and Bri Belgium. 2806 02:45:19,290 --> 02:45:24,570 Bri Bell Belgium 6816 And there's Kevin McLaughlin again 2807 02:45:24,600 --> 02:45:32,070 606 And all the SSA a small boobs. Band straw in Tennessee 2808 02:45:32,070 --> 02:45:37,830 in Nashville to be exact 5993 Brian Furley 8510 Sir Tom dari 2809 02:45:37,830 --> 02:45:44,730 in DeForest, Wisconsin 5510 Troy funderburk in Spokane, 2810 02:45:44,730 --> 02:45:49,890 Washington 55 Michael Gaines, 50 to 80 and Craig Craig noseley in 2811 02:45:49,890 --> 02:45:57,240 Cumberland, BC 5150 James sheremeta in Napa NOC New York 2812 02:45:57,270 --> 02:46:00,960 50 And he starts off the $50 donors. I'll just rattle them 2813 02:46:00,960 --> 02:46:04,620 off name and location, starting with James and follow with 2814 02:46:04,620 --> 02:46:07,770 Charles Peterson and Alburquerque Kurt Patrick in 2815 02:46:07,770 --> 02:46:14,100 Nanaimo. Jacob Martinez and Elmont de Lin and Melanau ski in 2816 02:46:14,100 --> 02:46:20,670 Stafford, Virginia. Alex avala. In Kyle, Texas, Miko Lebar are 2817 02:46:20,670 --> 02:46:26,640 LaBarre or levar. I think in Williamston, Michigan. Quinta 2818 02:46:26,640 --> 02:46:32,010 rocks Inc. in Brandon's in for Florida. Whatever that is, go 2819 02:46:32,010 --> 02:46:40,950 there. Qu i n t e r o x Brian Tannum ensure view Minnesota Sir 2820 02:46:40,950 --> 02:46:44,580 Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina Walker Phillips and 2821 02:46:44,580 --> 02:46:51,090 Sandra fell I Ichi Kanagawa in San Francisco. Cory Jackson in 2822 02:46:51,090 --> 02:46:54,300 Waterton, Tennessee and then I believe he's in Oklahoma City, 2823 02:46:54,300 --> 02:46:58,770 Brett Farrell wraps it up with $50 donations want to thank all 2824 02:46:58,770 --> 02:47:03,360 these people for making show 1605 a reality. 2825 02:47:03,480 --> 02:47:06,690 Adam Curry: And of course, our gratitude goes to everyone who 2826 02:47:06,690 --> 02:47:10,260 came in under $50. For anonymity, we will never mention 2827 02:47:10,260 --> 02:47:15,060 any name under the 50. And so we see you 4990 nines and everyone 2828 02:47:15,060 --> 02:47:17,940 who was on one of the sustaining donations these are important. 2829 02:47:18,450 --> 02:47:21,720 They can be small amounts per week or per day or per month or 2830 02:47:21,750 --> 02:47:24,930 per quarter, whatever you want to do. But if you have those on 2831 02:47:24,930 --> 02:47:27,630 automatic that really helps us out during the slower periods 2832 02:47:27,630 --> 02:47:30,720 and we really, really appreciate everybody no matter what amount 2833 02:47:30,720 --> 02:47:33,750 it is, if it's meaningful to you is meaningful to us. If you'd 2834 02:47:33,750 --> 02:47:36,240 like to learn more about how to become a no agenda producer you 2835 02:47:36,240 --> 02:47:41,610 can go here vorak.org/a Or you can go to no agenda 2836 02:47:41,610 --> 02:47:44,580 donations.com I don't know if it'll eventually forward or not. 2837 02:47:44,580 --> 02:47:48,990 If John can find this password it might go on to the executive 2838 02:47:48,990 --> 02:47:51,810 and Associate Executive Producers Those are real credits 2839 02:47:51,810 --> 02:47:55,620 just so you know. Just like art our PhD which are coming up 2840 02:47:55,620 --> 02:47:59,370 there real PhDs you can use the credits anywhere credits are 2841 02:47:59,370 --> 02:48:02,700 recognized. We suggest your LinkedIn profile your resume and 2842 02:48:02,700 --> 02:48:06,300 imdb.com and thank you once again for supporting us here no 2843 02:48:06,300 --> 02:48:08,520 agenda episode 1600 2844 02:48:10,830 --> 02:48:13,350 Unknown: We go out yet people in the mouth 2845 02:48:32,790 --> 02:48:34,920 Adam Curry: Well, what do you know we have a very important 2846 02:48:34,920 --> 02:48:38,250 birthday which took place yesterday Mimi Smith, the Lorax 2847 02:48:38,250 --> 02:48:42,690 celebrated Happy Birthday Mimi thinks a lot which is his only 2848 02:48:42,690 --> 02:48:46,350 human resource Ashlynn speed Happy Birthday turned 17 Today 2849 02:48:46,350 --> 02:48:49,530 we're all celebrating your success and your Birthday Sir 2850 02:48:49,530 --> 02:48:52,950 pokey says Happy Birthday to Adam Lambert for today. And 2851 02:48:52,950 --> 02:48:55,230 Christian Greulich is celebrating happy birthday from 2852 02:48:55,230 --> 02:48:57,960 everybody here at the best podcast in the universe you 2853 02:49:07,050 --> 02:49:09,990 don't want to be induced and you heard him earlier sir 2854 02:49:09,990 --> 02:49:14,220 Greasemonkey came in and I guess he's going to have a PhD so he 2855 02:49:14,220 --> 02:49:17,310 came in hard and heavy and receives a title change at the 2856 02:49:17,310 --> 02:49:21,270 same time. He now will be known as Sir Grease Monkey Baron of 2857 02:49:21,270 --> 02:49:25,020 the Permian Basin. And we thank you also for your support of the 2858 02:49:25,020 --> 02:49:29,160 no agenda show now it's time to get those PhD graduates have 2859 02:49:29,160 --> 02:49:32,850 appeared Duchess Kim, keep up the nutty fluffers John the 2860 02:49:32,850 --> 02:49:36,900 grumpy old minor sir Greasemonkey Vikon Steven Dean, 2861 02:49:37,080 --> 02:49:40,860 Jennifer Derrick's Andrew Williams sir layer on Annika 2862 02:49:40,860 --> 02:49:45,870 Weber and Mike Staton welcome new no agenda, PhDs to the 2863 02:49:45,870 --> 02:49:49,770 society of learned persons. The path to this high academic 2864 02:49:49,800 --> 02:49:54,420 earner for some of you has been a long if not costly one. Some 2865 02:49:54,420 --> 02:49:57,060 of the price bid has been paid by your hard earned wisdom and 2866 02:49:57,060 --> 02:50:00,000 in some other ways but today is not an end. It is only a 2867 02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:03,300 Beginning from this point forward, go forth and spread the 2868 02:50:03,300 --> 02:50:06,840 no agenda word far and wide. We will not be silenced. We will 2869 02:50:06,840 --> 02:50:11,040 not be deterred. The truth is go out and find 2870 02:50:16,289 --> 02:50:17,549 John C Dvorak: out what do you think getting there, you're 2871 02:50:17,549 --> 02:50:18,839 getting there. I'm working on. 2872 02:50:20,730 --> 02:50:23,250 Adam Curry: Congratulations, go to no agenda rings.com That's 2873 02:50:23,250 --> 02:50:27,330 where you can find your PhD in the menu and send off your name 2874 02:50:27,330 --> 02:50:29,580 that you want, we suggest you use your real name, because 2875 02:50:29,580 --> 02:50:32,850 that'll make it look just as real as it actually is. Don't be 2876 02:50:32,850 --> 02:50:36,060 too jokey about it. And of course, that is also the website 2877 02:50:36,060 --> 02:50:39,060 where we can get our rings for our nights in our games, and we 2878 02:50:39,060 --> 02:50:43,050 have two days and three nights so John, if you can give me your 2879 02:50:43,080 --> 02:50:45,150 John C Dvorak: guy got my two three night blade 2880 02:50:47,130 --> 02:50:50,100 Adam Curry: and a glamour agenda for Derek's David Jarman, Mike 2881 02:50:50,100 --> 02:50:53,850 Staton and Andrew Williams all of you are up on the podium here 2882 02:50:53,850 --> 02:50:57,090 and because you are about to be knighted Knights and Dames of 2883 02:50:57,090 --> 02:50:59,910 the no agenda roundtable I'm very proud to pronounce the Cade 2884 02:50:59,910 --> 02:51:03,600 the as daemonic of the Pensacola homestead Dame Jennifer of the 2885 02:51:03,600 --> 02:51:07,800 mountains. Sir David callsign Barney Jarman, protector of the 2886 02:51:07,800 --> 02:51:12,090 Aussie pilots night of parts unknown for Mike Staton and Sir 2887 02:51:12,090 --> 02:51:15,090 socks of the low pressure for you. We have hookers and blow 2888 02:51:15,090 --> 02:51:18,600 red boys and Chardonnay, also Westinghouse silver liners and 2889 02:51:18,600 --> 02:51:22,110 Thorn beta fives along with that beer and blondes, finesse lemon 2890 02:51:22,110 --> 02:51:25,020 and Rosae cases and Saki Baca, Manila bong hits and bourbon, 2891 02:51:25,020 --> 02:51:25,440 sparkling 2892 02:51:25,440 --> 02:51:27,690 Unknown: cider s for ginger ale and dribbles. And of 2893 02:51:27,690 --> 02:51:29,580 Adam Curry: course, the mutton and Mead. 2894 02:51:31,500 --> 02:51:35,400 John C Dvorak: Right went I also think there's somebody, I have 2895 02:51:35,400 --> 02:51:40,950 to explain this, but John Monaco donated $50.33, and he should be 2896 02:51:40,950 --> 02:51:46,200 on this list down which list the main spreadsheet. Oh, okay. 2897 02:51:46,260 --> 02:51:48,300 Adam Curry: All right. Good. I'm glad you cleared that up. 2898 02:51:49,050 --> 02:51:50,850 John C Dvorak: So I have to make go good. All right, so 2899 02:51:50,850 --> 02:51:54,720 Adam Curry: our new Knights and Dames go to no agenda rings.com 2900 02:51:54,750 --> 02:51:58,020 They have you may be going there already for your PhD. That you 2901 02:51:58,020 --> 02:52:00,810 can see our handsome Damon Knight rings. And along with 2902 02:52:00,810 --> 02:52:03,390 that, once you enter your ring size, there is a ring sizing 2903 02:52:03,390 --> 02:52:06,270 guide on the website and your address. We'll send that off to 2904 02:52:06,270 --> 02:52:09,360 you with the wax to seal your important correspondence and of 2905 02:52:09,360 --> 02:52:12,090 course, the certificate of authenticity so you can always 2906 02:52:12,090 --> 02:52:15,840 show people that it is for real. Thank you again, everybody. 2907 02:52:15,870 --> 02:52:18,750 Thank you so much for supporting us and keeping the no agenda 2908 02:52:18,750 --> 02:52:21,090 train on the tracks. No one 2909 02:52:27,540 --> 02:52:31,950 well, oddly, oddly, there is no reports no meetup reports. But 2910 02:52:31,950 --> 02:52:34,920 we do have meetups taking place today in Central Florida, the 2911 02:52:34,920 --> 02:52:38,430 Central Florida meetup. Well, that is well underway at 2912 02:52:38,430 --> 02:52:41,340 hourglass brewing in Longwood, Florida. Hello, everybody hope 2913 02:52:41,340 --> 02:52:44,460 they're listening. on Wednesday. The killjoy meetup takes place 2914 02:52:44,460 --> 02:52:47,670 killjoy dare to have fun five o'clock at barleys Taproom and 2915 02:52:47,670 --> 02:52:51,750 pizzeria in Knoxville Tennessee. We have the oh that's no break. 2916 02:52:51,750 --> 02:52:54,750 No break is hosting that is he's the only guy that had like he 2917 02:52:54,750 --> 02:53:00,450 post pictures of cool muscle cars. Let me see. That's the Oh 2918 02:53:00,450 --> 02:53:04,320 yeah. Then I promised I would pre promote the November 18. The 2919 02:53:04,320 --> 02:53:07,860 seventh northwest Houston meetup. That'll be in the 18th 2920 02:53:07,860 --> 02:53:12,090 at Wakefield crowbar in Houston. And man, if you look at the 2921 02:53:12,090 --> 02:53:14,850 calendar, we have a lot does it go through Christmas almost 2922 02:53:15,120 --> 02:53:20,310 December 16th. Cincinnati, Ohio we see see New Mexico we have 2923 02:53:20,310 --> 02:53:24,810 bear handled and Netherlands on the 12th. We've got Fort Wayne, 2924 02:53:24,810 --> 02:53:28,440 Indiana and we have oh yes, of course there's November 18 2925 02:53:28,890 --> 02:53:32,760 Sunset Valley. I'll be bringing the keeper along with me. And 2926 02:53:32,760 --> 02:53:36,450 also we will both be at the Indy meetup on December 4. Hey, 2927 02:53:36,450 --> 02:53:38,850 there's one in Brooklyn on the ninth. I can't wait to hear a 2928 02:53:38,850 --> 02:53:42,030 meet up report from that one. These are the no agenda meetups. 2929 02:53:42,270 --> 02:53:45,630 If you've never been to a meet up, well, then you're missing 2930 02:53:45,630 --> 02:53:49,050 out. You're only getting half of the show. Really? Just a portion 2931 02:53:49,050 --> 02:53:52,350 of the show you need to go meet some of your fellow producers. I 2932 02:53:52,350 --> 02:53:54,600 guarantee you you will not be disappointed if you're 2933 02:53:54,600 --> 02:53:57,450 disappointed let me know I'll refund you your money which 2934 02:53:57,480 --> 02:54:00,720 can't be done because it's free. No agenda meetups.com go there 2935 02:54:00,720 --> 02:54:03,480 to find out if you can't find one near you start one yourself 2936 02:54:03,480 --> 02:54:06,300 it's easy it's always a party and you 2937 02:54:06,720 --> 02:54:15,120 Unknown: go hang out with all day long be triggered 2938 02:54:18,780 --> 02:54:24,720 Adam Curry: everybody feels the same. Like a pie 2939 02:54:30,630 --> 02:54:34,650 see, I have four ISOs for some reason I wind up with four you 2940 02:54:34,650 --> 02:54:36,330 want to do yours first. 2941 02:54:38,490 --> 02:54:40,380 John C Dvorak: Let's hear yours. Okay, 2942 02:54:40,440 --> 02:54:45,690 Unknown: I find that more trustworthy I don't know about 2943 02:54:45,690 --> 02:54:45,960 that one. 2944 02:54:45,960 --> 02:54:48,450 Adam Curry: How about this one? I don't need a detective I need 2945 02:54:48,450 --> 02:54:52,980 to keep her How about this one? Here we go. 2946 02:54:53,910 --> 02:54:55,110 Unknown: Oh 2947 02:54:57,420 --> 02:54:58,800 John C Dvorak: that one got left on me. 2948 02:54:58,830 --> 02:55:01,470 Unknown: This is my favorite me lalalala fingers and ears 2949 02:55:04,770 --> 02:55:06,570 John C Dvorak: all right, I got two. Okay. 2950 02:55:08,099 --> 02:55:12,929 Unknown: All back. It's time to fall back. Okay, 2951 02:55:13,170 --> 02:55:15,630 John C Dvorak: that's pretty good celebration of the stupid 2952 02:55:15,690 --> 02:55:16,350 same 2953 02:55:16,350 --> 02:55:19,800 Adam Curry: thing elitist time change. Okay. And then here's 2954 02:55:19,800 --> 02:55:21,180 John C Dvorak: my favorite. Oh, yeah. 2955 02:55:21,300 --> 02:55:26,070 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, these are all good. Let me just 2956 02:55:26,070 --> 02:55:27,450 let me see if the contenders are 2957 02:55:27,480 --> 02:55:34,560 Unknown: here we go. Oh, oh yeah, it's time to fall back. 2958 02:55:34,590 --> 02:55:36,840 Adam Curry: I think we have to do fall back. I mean, you just 2959 02:55:36,840 --> 02:55:39,900 can't get around that it's perfect for the timing is right. 2960 02:55:39,900 --> 02:55:40,620 Yeah. It 2961 02:55:40,620 --> 02:55:43,200 John C Dvorak: is probably the best one call though. I think a 2962 02:55:43,200 --> 02:55:46,050 combination of yours and Oh, yeah. Would be good. 2963 02:55:47,340 --> 02:55:49,140 Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a second. Let me see how that 2964 02:55:49,140 --> 02:55:54,210 works. So mine first. Yeah. Which one? The 2965 02:55:54,210 --> 02:55:56,670 John C Dvorak: hip, the guy making them when it cracks me 2966 02:55:56,670 --> 02:55:56,880 up. 2967 02:55:56,910 --> 02:56:03,510 Adam Curry: Here we go. Oh, no, no, no. It doesn't work. It's 2968 02:56:03,510 --> 02:56:05,070 too long. Now. We'll do yours. We'll 2969 02:56:05,070 --> 02:56:07,500 John C Dvorak: do your roll back is fine. Fall back. It's 2970 02:56:07,500 --> 02:56:09,180 Adam Curry: no, it's beyond fine. It's great. 2971 02:56:09,510 --> 02:56:10,110 Unknown: It's great. 2972 02:56:11,400 --> 02:56:12,240 John C Dvorak: It's appropriate. 2973 02:56:13,080 --> 02:56:16,560 Adam Curry: Just I wanted to play one little clip here. Just 2974 02:56:16,560 --> 02:56:22,260 to show how often children are used for political means I 2975 02:56:22,260 --> 02:56:23,610 should say abused 2976 02:56:26,400 --> 02:56:29,400 John C Dvorak: is a lot to do with hitting the never ending 2977 02:56:29,400 --> 02:56:30,930 theme of the show. Yes, 2978 02:56:30,960 --> 02:56:34,770 Adam Curry: we have. Well, now we have just who? Who kills 2979 02:56:34,770 --> 02:56:39,270 whose children? worser. That's what's going on right now. We 2980 02:56:39,270 --> 02:56:44,880 had Greta Greta tune very, very worst. We had the throwing the 2981 02:56:44,880 --> 02:56:48,150 babies out of the incubators. Remember that one? Yeah. Yep. 2982 02:56:48,630 --> 02:56:49,170 Now, 2983 02:56:49,950 --> 02:56:52,380 John C Dvorak: but don't forget the crying teenagers that are 2984 02:56:52,380 --> 02:56:55,920 crying over climate change? Well, yes. Public? Yes. 2985 02:56:55,920 --> 02:57:02,820 Adam Curry: Let's go back to 1999. Now this is before we 2986 02:57:02,820 --> 02:57:06,810 really had well, we didn't have global warming. We didn't have 2987 02:57:06,810 --> 02:57:11,040 climate change. We had the hole in the ozone. Do you remember 2988 02:57:11,040 --> 02:57:15,510 that jar, the hole in the ozone. And that was going to kill us. 2989 02:57:16,170 --> 02:57:20,880 And this. And this is the girl who is known as the girl who 2990 02:57:20,880 --> 02:57:25,500 silenced the world for five minutes. She's from Canada. Her 2991 02:57:25,500 --> 02:57:30,330 name is? Forget her last name. She's Suzuki. Her dad is an 2992 02:57:30,330 --> 02:57:33,510 elite was an elite up there and that can the Navia but we don't 2993 02:57:33,510 --> 02:57:37,590 talk about that because she paid for her own trip, I think was 2994 02:57:37,590 --> 02:57:40,620 Brazil or something where they had this meeting. And they show 2995 02:57:40,620 --> 02:57:45,690 all all the whole of the elites just looking like ah well yes, 2996 02:57:45,780 --> 02:57:49,980 she has no future see if you can spot the similarities between 2997 02:57:49,980 --> 02:57:53,940 Greta and all the other children abused for the global elite. 2998 02:57:59,220 --> 02:58:02,220 Unknown: Hello, I'm seven Suzuki speaking for eco the 2999 02:58:02,220 --> 02:58:05,550 environmental children's organization, where a group of 3000 02:58:05,550 --> 02:58:10,650 12 and 13 year olds trying to make a difference. For NASA SETI 3001 02:58:10,950 --> 02:58:15,840 Morgan Geisler, Michelle Quig, and me. We've raised all the 3002 02:58:15,840 --> 02:58:20,460 money to come here ourselves, to come 5000 miles to tell you 3003 02:58:20,460 --> 02:58:25,710 adults, you must change your ways. Coming up here today, I 3004 02:58:25,710 --> 02:58:31,200 have no hidden agenda. I am fighting for my future. Losing 3005 02:58:31,200 --> 02:58:35,520 my future is not like losing an election, or a few points on the 3006 02:58:35,520 --> 02:58:42,630 stock market. I am here to speak for all generations to come. I 3007 02:58:42,630 --> 02:58:45,990 am here to speak, speak on behalf of the starving children 3008 02:58:46,320 --> 02:58:51,150 around the world whose cries go on heard. I'm here to speak for 3009 02:58:51,150 --> 02:58:54,840 the countless animals dying across this planet because they 3010 02:58:54,840 --> 02:59:01,170 have nowhere left to go. I am afraid to go out in the sun now, 3011 02:59:01,530 --> 02:59:05,610 because of the holes in our ozone. I'm afraid to breathe the 3012 02:59:05,610 --> 02:59:10,740 air because I don't know what chemicals are in it. I used to 3013 02:59:10,740 --> 02:59:15,300 go in. I used to go fishing in Vancouver, my home with my dad. 3014 02:59:15,570 --> 02:59:19,770 until just a few years ago, we found the fish full of cancers. 3015 02:59:21,510 --> 02:59:26,250 And now we hear of animals and plants going extinct every day, 3016 02:59:26,370 --> 02:59:32,160 vanishing forever. In my life, I have dreamt of seeing the great 3017 02:59:32,160 --> 02:59:36,780 herds of wild animals, jungles and rainforests full of birds 3018 02:59:36,780 --> 02:59:41,130 and butterflies. But now I wonder if they will even exist 3019 02:59:41,190 --> 02:59:46,740 for my children to see. Did you have to worry of these things 3020 02:59:46,740 --> 02:59:51,690 when you were my age? All this is happening before eyes and yet 3021 02:59:51,690 --> 02:59:55,770 we act as if we have all the time we want and all the 3022 02:59:55,770 --> 02:59:56,580 solutions 3023 02:59:58,890 --> 03:00:02,130 John C Dvorak: when I was a kid We had to jump under a desk did 3024 03:00:02,130 --> 03:00:04,260 sorry didn't get blowed up by a nuke 3025 03:00:07,109 --> 03:00:08,939 Adam Curry: dropping cover dropping 3026 03:00:09,330 --> 03:00:13,470 John C Dvorak: break, so she'd be in her 30s mid 30s Now Is she 3027 03:00:13,470 --> 03:00:16,350 dead? Do we know? 3028 03:00:16,650 --> 03:00:19,440 Adam Curry: No she I think she's in her 40s Now she the mid to 3029 03:00:19,440 --> 03:00:23,940 late 30s No she's not dead. And and you know the existential you 3030 03:00:23,940 --> 03:00:27,150 know? I don't know of any how many animals went away are we in 3031 03:00:27,450 --> 03:00:31,050 the Sixth Extinction where's she should be a part of extinction 3032 03:00:31,050 --> 03:00:39,660 rebellion she should be leading it but no no such luck they 3033 03:00:39,660 --> 03:00:45,960 always use the children always but works yeah, but it's it's 3034 03:00:46,020 --> 03:00:48,060 it's so different works well. 3035 03:00:48,480 --> 03:00:49,830 Unknown: What's so disingenuous 3036 03:00:49,830 --> 03:00:52,200 Adam Curry: every single time that's all 3037 03:00:52,200 --> 03:00:56,820 John C Dvorak: we talk about as this in this genuine Unison 3038 03:00:56,820 --> 03:01:00,930 Adam Curry: genuine entity. Genuine a disingenuous 3039 03:01:00,960 --> 03:01:05,460 disingenuous entity. Yeah, alright everybody that's it. We 3040 03:01:05,460 --> 03:01:08,700 hope you enjoyed your media deconstruction don't worry about 3041 03:01:08,700 --> 03:01:12,660 it. Go outside sniff the air. Oh, no, you can't because you 3042 03:01:12,660 --> 03:01:16,500 know the chemical is gonna kill you don't go out in the sun 3043 03:01:16,500 --> 03:01:20,730 might burn you to death. Just go outside. Enjoy everything. Enjoy 3044 03:01:20,730 --> 03:01:25,980 your family. Enjoy your ball. Throw a ball. Stay off the 3045 03:01:25,980 --> 03:01:30,570 social networks for the rest of your Sunday will Yeah. Phantom 3046 03:01:30,570 --> 03:01:35,700 Ville. Sir Michael Anthony and Tom Stark where they're all part 3047 03:01:35,700 --> 03:01:39,390 of our end of show mixes for today. And up next we've got 3048 03:01:41,730 --> 03:01:43,140 Missy 3049 03:01:48,450 --> 03:01:53,010 I'm not sure I thought we had beer balderdash and some melts. 3050 03:01:53,130 --> 03:01:56,580 Yes. Beer bourbon and balderdash that coming up next on no agenda 3051 03:01:56,580 --> 03:01:59,400 stream if you're in the troll room troll room.io coming to you 3052 03:01:59,610 --> 03:02:01,860 from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region 3053 03:02:01,860 --> 03:02:05,190 number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, from 3054 03:02:05,190 --> 03:02:08,130 John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon Valley, where we may actually 3055 03:02:08,130 --> 03:02:11,220 have some showers in the next day or two. But it will be 3056 03:02:11,220 --> 03:02:13,530 showers I'm John Seymour. We return 3057 03:02:13,530 --> 03:02:16,110 Adam Curry: on Thursday please join us then we'll be right here 3058 03:02:16,110 --> 03:02:22,560 on no agenda. Till then adios Mufasa who we who we and such 3059 03:02:35,010 --> 03:02:46,770 bomb isn't going away stay columns to the left of 3060 03:02:58,050 --> 03:03:01,950 Unknown: Kevin Davis 3061 03:03:05,190 --> 03:03:09,720 started with the nest 3062 03:03:33,240 --> 03:03:36,480 it's November and you know what that means. discounts on 3063 03:03:36,480 --> 03:03:40,650 leftover Halloween Candy Yum, just in time for National 3064 03:03:40,650 --> 03:03:44,670 Diabetes month was not on purpose. Anyway, eating candy is 3065 03:03:44,670 --> 03:03:48,090 a fun and effective way to develop Type Two Diabetes. 3066 03:03:48,120 --> 03:03:52,590 According to Joe Biden, one in 10 Americans has diabetes and 3067 03:03:52,590 --> 03:03:56,580 one in five of them don't even know they're diabetic. The CDC 3068 03:03:56,580 --> 03:03:59,970 says that diabetes can lead to infections, heart disease, 3069 03:04:00,000 --> 03:04:03,990 kidney failure and so much more. All of these can help to fight 3070 03:04:03,990 --> 03:04:07,440 climate change through population control. Diabetics 3071 03:04:07,440 --> 03:04:11,010 also helped the economy boosting profits for industries from 3072 03:04:11,010 --> 03:04:14,730 health care to processed food. Do your part this November by 3073 03:04:14,760 --> 03:04:19,110 eating more sugars and processed foods avoiding exercise and of 3074 03:04:19,110 --> 03:04:22,170 course taking more insulin and other medications. 3075 03:04:22,230 --> 03:04:26,760 Unfortunately, type two diabetes can be reversed. So the futures 3076 03:04:26,760 --> 03:04:30,450 of Big Pharma and big food depend on the choices you make 3077 03:04:30,450 --> 03:04:33,390 today. Happy National Diabetes month. 3078 03:04:33,780 --> 03:04:38,820 It's daylight savings time. It's my least favorite holiday kills 3079 03:04:38,820 --> 03:04:39,480 people 3080 03:04:39,510 --> 03:04:41,910 the first country to actually have daylight savings and 3081 03:04:41,910 --> 03:04:44,580 standardized across the country was actually Germany or the 3082 03:04:44,580 --> 03:04:47,100 German Empire to be more precise during World War One. 3083 03:04:47,160 --> 03:04:50,580 Scott Harding is one of many growers dependent on daylight to 3084 03:04:50,580 --> 03:04:52,350 get the job done. You 3085 03:04:52,350 --> 03:04:55,710 have to quit that much soon. You have to everything pick up this 3086 03:04:55,710 --> 03:04:59,580 sunshine Protection Act which would end the changing of the 3087 03:04:59,580 --> 03:05:02,880 clock. Once and for all, our goal as we spring forward this 3088 03:05:02,880 --> 03:05:06,000 weekend. We're not going to have to fall back in the fall if 3089 03:05:06,000 --> 03:05:09,180 we get our air bill passed in the daylight savings makes this 3090 03:05:09,180 --> 03:05:12,690 a whole more complex thing to work out. Daylight Saving Time. 3091 03:05:12,720 --> 03:05:16,950 That's what I check the firewood, change the back, 3092 03:05:16,980 --> 03:05:18,870 change the phone for Wi Fi 3093 03:05:28,500 --> 03:05:35,430 MoPhO vorak.org/in A it's time to fall back