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Unknown: is no agenda and we're
Adam Curry: partying like it's 1599 and broadcasting live from
the heart of the country here in FEMA Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all
wondering where How and why did Pete Davidson become a sex
symbol? Jhansi Dvorak?
Adam Curry: Wow, man, you guys in California preoccupied with
the wrong things? Nobody cares about Pete Davidson anymore.
John C Dvorak: Taco Bell does.
Adam Curry: Really? Is his air commercial.
John C Dvorak: Oh, a.
Adam Curry: How do you How are you? What are you watching that?
You get Taco Bell commercial? I haven't seen Washington
television
John C Dvorak: to look for Eclipse. Mm hmm.
Adam Curry: So we had to speaking of Eclipse we had the
Eclipse yesterday. Yeah, we had
John C Dvorak: it too, though. You had it too. Oh, yeah. We had
the was the 95% It wasn't full like yours down there. But, boy,
I know your show isn't quite 100% full but you got one coming
in April. That's 100% And it's gonna be in Texas. Yes.
Adam Curry: Yes. The 1% 100% Well, the one yesterday was a
was judgeship was a total Jip
John C Dvorak: wasn't cool. No, no, it wasn't cool. You know
what Chip is?
Adam Curry: Now we gotta we gotta Ring of Fire. Okay, now,
that arc was what what, what, what? What are you What are you
hiding from, but we had
John C Dvorak: cloud cover through a bunch of fog. You got
to read it not only didn't get dark, you wouldn't know it
didn't even happened.
Adam Curry: So Fredericksburg was full. It wasn't like what we
expect for the full eclipse in April. But it was full. And I
know it was full because we had dinner with some new friends.
Remember, I told you I had my birthday dinner? And this guy
bought us bought our dinner?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the guy from across the room. It won't
get Yeah.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Anyway, so they had they he has a ranch
like in Midland or something. And he lives in Austin, but they
always come to Fredericksburg on their way to the ranch. And, and
that's how we how we met them. And they could they had to stay
at the Comfort Inn and we're lucky to get a comfort in room,
which is almost a step below LaQuinta everything was full,
but it wasn't over full crazy. And you know, but people all I
ever do
Unknown: all. Ah ha. Ah,
Adam Curry: I just don't get it. Why are people so fascinated by
it? By the Eclipse? What is it that
John C Dvorak: the knives I've seen a couple of them? I've seen
a lot of debate boys, and moon and sun. And I did fun. It's
interesting. It was always interesting. When you have a
full Eclipse, it actually literally gets about 10 degrees
colder. Right on the spot. Yeah, that didn't happen yesterday,
either. No, it didn't happen here either. But normally, you
get this and as you can feel it's like Oh, and by the way,
when that happens when everyone out there gets to experience
this, like 10 degree drop in temperature when the sun gets
fullest Eclipse for just a few seconds. Thank yourself. Ah, the
sun has nothing to do with global warming.
Adam Curry: Sure. Okay, well speaking of that. So this new
friend, we're gonna call him Paul, the tycoon oil tycoon.
John C Dvorak: So we had this new friend of yours, it has to
be named in code.
Adam Curry: B, I haven't discussed with him yet. And I
don't want to ruin my new friendship just yet. So he had a
very successful Oil Company, which he took public, and then
they sold it. And then he had a year that he couldn't do
anything. They started a new one. So it was no new oil
companies worth one and a half billion dollars. You wouldn't
know looking at the guy. So this is like, Oh, how interesting.
John C Dvorak: Texas billionaires. They're all like
that. Yeah, exactly.
Adam Curry: And it's real. Like he's a guy that has, you know,
like drills on the ground and oil comes out. Yes. He's not a
wildcatter.
John C Dvorak: So wildcatters wildcatter.
Adam Curry: And he says, and so we're, you know, we're yapping
away and ESG comes up, he says, ah, oh, gotta tell you about ESG
All right, says Guess who the and this company is not yet
public. Guess what the number one investor is in my in my my
company my oil spurting out of the ground company. You get one
guest jump
John C Dvorak: I wouldn't have a clue of what who to guess. I
mean, yeah. Microsoft I mean, I don't know
Adam Curry: No, no. Did you talk by in the troll room got it
right right off the bat, BlackRock, BlackRock,
John C Dvorak: 50, blank row. They're interested in everything
and it will count down, but
Adam Curry: they're the guys who started the ESG program. This is
This is Larry Fink's baby. And it's like all we owe, you know,
if you're, if you don't have a high ESG score, then you're on
investable. And so he explained the mechanics, he said, he
backed off on it, by the way recently, yeah, a little bit,
but the ESG score hasn't gone away. And if you have a low and
environmental, social government governance, if you don't have
oh,
John C Dvorak: yeah, he's an oil company. You should be low
score, you should
Adam Curry: be zero negative score. So 50 million already in
another 50 million coming from BlackRock. And my new friend
Paul, the oil tycoon says, the ESG is phenomenal. It's great.
Because whenever they tell us all bow climate change,
whatever, you got to close it, well, boom, price goes up, we
make out like bandits. He says it's a whole the whole thing.
It's a scam. He says when we had the public company, it was
phenomenal. Oh, boy, we have to close it well, oh, it's a
problem. Boom, stock price rockets. To this whole thing is
a scapegoat. When
John C Dvorak: I look at the evidence of this, take a look at
the chart for Exxon. And first look at where Joe Biden was
elected and look at the stock price then and look at it. He
also said
Adam Curry: specifically, he says look, I don't like it for
our country in the world. But Democrats are good for business
use. Whenever a Democrat in the White House is good for us.
John C Dvorak: Tell it tell it to the 90s that's when Clinton
was in Iraq and
Adam Curry: yeah, why don't you soak in that for a bit? I love
saying that marinate in that once you put that in your pipe
and smoke it I don't know about you but there's nothing but
disinformation everywhere. The whole world is full of
disinformation so all disinformation everywhere.
disinformation. Now we have reports about disinformation.
Just disinformation. It's crazy. It's happening everywhere.
Hallie Jackson has to
John C Dvorak: report this information. Miss Sally jelly
Adam Curry: who has all kinds of weird sound effects on her show.
New into
Unknown: NBC tonight research. And by the way at work
John C Dvorak: she mugs she has a weird mugging face she's
mugging cow it constantly. She's getting she's I don't know. I
find her annoying. Uh, well,
Adam Curry: hello is joined the Halle annoying club. Yeah. And
this one her eyes roll. She's all bug eyed. Because Whoa,
misinformation is a huge problem.
Unknown: This new into NBC tonight a research group
uncovering a network of dozens of accounts, formerly known as
spread.
Adam Curry: Did you know that x is formerly known as Twitter?
This, you know be outlawed this? Why do they keep saying this?
When is it just going to be x?
John C Dvorak: But you can do what I do. I don't use x I say
twitter.com. No,
Adam Curry: I'm just I'm just saying x still twitter.com
Unknown: and dozens of accounts on apps formerly known as
Twitter. spreading, spreading,
Adam Curry: spreading dating. Oh, this is cool. What how did
she do that? How do you come up with spreading?
John C Dvorak: Spreading dating?
Adam Curry: She said spread dating. What is that all of us
spread what disseminating and spreading? That's okay.
Spreading dating. I think it should be it should be entered
into the dictionary. I like it. It's
Unknown: of accounts on apps formerly known as Twitter spread
knitting was spreading rather which believed to be coordinated
posts with distinct,
Adam Curry: coordinated. Oh, it's believed to be coordinated
posts and videos
Unknown: that have been viewed millions of times. X started
suspending some of the accounts after they were contacted by NBC
News but didn't otherwise have any comment. It's something
we've seen a lot of over the past few days. Oh, yeah.
Militants started a new airstrike on Israel. You see
that? That's that video that is actually from a video game. No,
no, that's not even really to the exact same video posted to
YouTube hear you
Adam Curry: there's an obvious conclusion to what they're doing
here. You and you know what's coming.
Unknown: And there was this post claiming Israel bombed and
destroyed an old Greek Orthodox Church in Gaza. It has something
like 3 million views.
Adam Curry: It has something like 3 million. What kind of
news report is that? And how many views that it have not
something like that's something like
John C Dvorak: $3 million. The number is right there. You can
read it.
Adam Curry: Now she sounded like a high school girl. It's
something that had something like 3000 3 Million Likes now.
Unknown: And there was this post claiming Israel bombed and
destroyed an old Greek Orthodox Church in Gaza. It has something
like 3 million views, but the church itself said it hasn't
been touched that any other news is false. Now have disclaimers
on the bottom if you go to F and look at the posts, but they're
not taken down and some of them are posted from verified users,
making it harder for people to know what's real. NBC News tech
correspondent Jake Ward Joining us now and Jake these are just a
couple of examples of this these posts containing misinformation
disinformation very difficult especially in a moment like this
when people are frankly desperate for information
turning to social media platforms just there's not a
clear cut picture that desperately is
not a clear cut picture Holly the past few days, this vivid
lesson in the fact that you literally cannot trust what
social media is. Even more difficult is the surprise turn
of events which means that legitimate sources of
information are slow to react because they were taking just as
surprised as so many people were across Israel. So a very, very
difficult moment but as you look for raishin of of misleading
content, and when it's not just made up as in the case of the
video game clip you're showing there a middle it's out of
context or out of time Oh, it trust us legitimate sources.
It's even hard for us people trust legitimate sources.
John C Dvorak: And when you're going on this route, because I
have a series of misleading clips from provided by PBS I
love that which is beyond like misinformation. It's a it's a
it's a lie.
Adam Curry: Well, let me set it up. Let
John C Dvorak: me set it up with keep no I want to hear more of
this.
Adam Curry: Yeah, another misinformation clip. This is
from CBS a term fake
Unknown: news is a controversial one controversial. It's often
used to falsely claim that the facts someone doesn't like or
just made up. But actual fake news takes on a new tone when
it's used as a weapon of war when misinformation has already
cropped up in abundance in the current conflict in the Middle
East. Jolene Kent has the story
Adam Curry: you see a similarity here the M five and what they're
saying.
Unknown: Oh, as the wound was real in Gaza
good start
John C Dvorak: there trying to use misinformation and a random
explosion Yeah, how
Adam Curry: should we start this report about misinformation? I
don't know blow something up. Good one
Unknown: as the war in Israel in Gaza plays out in real time on
social media. Experts say bad information and propaganda are
spreading on X formally, Twitter Oh,
Adam Curry: it's x again. Formerly known as Twitter I
there's a pattern here it's group
Unknown: aleafia detected a network of at least 67 accounts
that posted false content about the war faulty Russians millions
of views by now. excluding these mistranslated videos of Russian
President Vladimir Putin and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov,
you manipulated to falsely say that Russia will support
Palestine if the US supports Israel. Why are 67 accounts so
powerful in their influence? And why do they not
Adam Curry: know they are? No they are they're very powerful.
This is Elon his home business model is now being attacked.
This is this is the point of this
Unknown: and why do they matter? It matters whether or not people
believe that and the more times that people are able to view
content of a similarly, the more opportunities an actor has to
convince somebody of something that may or may not be for
Adam Curry: an actor George Clooney was doing this. What
actor actor Brad Pitt This
Unknown: comes after Elon Musk, the owner of X laid off much of
the team responsible for monitoring. The European Union
sent this letter to the billionaire asking Musk to
immediately remove illegal content and disinformation.
Adam Curry: My name is God but at all I have a habit bug it in
my book.
Unknown: Otherwise, penalties can be imposed. How does this
disinformation impact the war? And what we know about it
when we flood people with this sea of unvetted information,
much of it deceptive, is we're throwing away the goodwill of
our citizens. And we're opening the door to a variety of people
that want to manipulate their goodwill.
Do you anticipate seeing more of this kind of activity as the war
continues? Oh, yes,
Adam Curry: of course. Yes.
Unknown: We do anticipate that in the coming days that this
information sphere is going to get updated and that more actors
will be weaponizing information.
Adam Curry: More and more actors.
Unknown: What our history as
Adam Curry: she did it again, did she just do again x formerly
known Twitter
Unknown: X. Formerly Twitter has said as of Monday, they've
already removed several 100 accounts, including those that
are Hamas affiliated. Meantime, we've been pressing the other
social media companies about this. And Snapchat, Tik Tok and
Facebook all say they've increased their resources to
fight disinformation.
John C Dvorak: Oh, please.
Adam Curry: So before, before we get to your clips, I'm very
interested in those two things. One, this is confirmed all right
now I don't have I don't have to have the TIC tock app. People
send me tic TOCs all the time and I open them in the browser.
And so what I do then every single time after that tick tock
is done that one video, the same. Horrific, violent clip
pops up from some Israeli kid being killed at the at the at
the at the rave and my my buddy Dave
John C Dvorak: he says it must be your cookies
Adam Curry: no he didn't get it well okay but I'm two people in
two different states are seeing the same thing so I there's
those misinformation different from from different from
Michigan now before we get before we get into it before we
go any further with this talking about this conflict what's
happening in the Middle East
John C Dvorak: Adams gonna read his email by area fine there's
the old clip
Adam Curry: it's called a cigales from the gym
Unknown: who's gonna read his email
Adam Curry: on the no agenda. That's not tedious. I want to
remind everybody that when we deconstruct these things, same
with COVID lockdowns you, Ukraine. It is it is masks, it
is bad for business. It is not a great business model that we
have. It's not like people go oh, yeah, this is great. No,
people walk away from the show. They go,
John C Dvorak: Oh, I've been I bought in hook line and sinker
and they're telling me I'm wrong. You guys suck.
Adam Curry: I has been listening to your show no agenda for two
to four years. That's Wait, wait
John C Dvorak: two to four years.
Adam Curry: That's an interest. Very interesting range. Never
heard to two to four years and I've always enjoyed it. However,
your coverage of the atrocities by the monstrous Hamas,
including the beheading of innocent babies, babies torn
from their mother's bellies is so appalling. So I, I don't
recall babies torn from their mother's bellies to new one.
There is indeed ample footage pictures to prove what happened.
And your glib laughter was one your glib laughter with John,
well, there are no words, you're excused that you're just
evaluating the media coverage is cheap, and not even believable.
To say I'm disappointed and disgusted would be an
understatement.
John C Dvorak: I want to remind people out there who have these
kinds of complaints, send them to Adam because he'll read him
on the air.
Adam Curry: You know, it's it's taken on a whole new level, you
know, the mid curry.com. You know, the, you know, that dude
who was so mad about when we started talking about trans
Maoism.
John C Dvorak: Tim Poole now? No,
Adam Curry: I iron iron hide. 1970 Mike Ironhide 1972 He was
it was he was putting pictures up on Norwegian art generator
that we suck. It was your post? Oh,
John C Dvorak: yeah, we I think we bounced him that way.
Adam Curry: I died. I mean, Paul, pocket two are bouncing
from that. But they showed up in the troll room last show. So now
I get an email from one of our producers who happens to also
own the venue where he's organizing the a meet up. It's a
burger joint. And the email he received which I'm sure many
John C Dvorak: the hater, you're talking about organizing a
meeting? No, no, no, no.
Adam Curry: One of our producers who's organizing a meetup who
organizes one regularly who has a venue he owns the venue in
this case, as the venue owner, he received an email from the
hater. Okay, letting you know that a group from the no agenda
podcast will be at your establishment on October 14 at
5pm this group follows a very homophobic and transphobic
podcast. I would use all caution when serving these people.
John C Dvorak: Wow.
Adam Curry: That was a good wow. That was a very good wow,
John C Dvorak: that's a very good while because that's a wow
moment. Yeah, so this prick that's calm where he is.
Besides, he doesn't like to show for whatever reason. Oh, noes
are after the venue for the meetup. But coincidentally, the
venue is owned by the guy organizing the meetup. So he
sends the mail right on to us, which you just read. That is
unbelievable. That guy is a true a whole I wish these people
wouldn't even listen to the show. They get better things to
do. There's other shows that can go to well, this I harass us,
because they're white trying to ruin a good meet up. I mean,
come on. That's sick. I actually
Adam Curry: tried to talk him off the ledge when this first
started and I was emailing him personally and then he decided
that the prick Yeah, then he then he published all my emails.
I'm like, Dude, I pray for him. I go, I forgive him. I forgive
him. He has issues I forgive him. I hope it works out for
him. All right now won't now on to your your disinfo clips from
NPR which I'm very excited for PBS it was our I'm sorry I mean
NPR PBS I mean
John C Dvorak: yeah what diverse is a second let's
Adam Curry: do it let's do it right
Unknown: elitist voices of America this is NPR or PBS
Adam Curry: doesn't matter
John C Dvorak: so a couple of these I got some intro ones that
we can go into which is the Brooks and K part.
Adam Curry: Oh Mike you know, I'm gonna have to start banning
these these these clips because I'll blame me Oh, but nobody
watches this anymore. They have zero traction. They don't they
still think it's Brooks and Dunn
Unknown: never was Brooks.
Adam Curry: That's a country duo. What's what's Brooks
John C Dvorak: Garth Brooks? What's the other guy? A key part
before before
Adam Curry: before K part who was at the shields? Oh, Brooks
and shields see we don't even remember the old guys
John C Dvorak: I remember.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Okay some point all right, let's go but
what are we
John C Dvorak: examples I'm gonna lead into the into the to
the egregious re edited clip. I'm sorry. They used to become a
gassed and pissed off. And it's ridiculous. But let's firstly
get us in the mood by listening to these two boneheads in the
mood in the mood. This is start I'm gonna start with Brooks
Putin Hamas.
Unknown: For I thought this was one of Joe Biden's best weeks as
president. You know, he was a was a moral clarity.
Adam Curry: That's great. Right there. He's better. He said,
Hey, I've seen proof of the babies decapitated. It's true.
It's right. It's certified verify? Oh, I'm sorry. No, the
President was confused.
Unknown: He was one of the early voices to remind everybody that
what Hamas has become looks like ISIS sort of a death cult. He
did in the face of divisions on the left. There are a lot of
mainstream liberals who are appalled by what happened there
more progressive voices, many who think this is a legitimate
part of decolonization. And yeah, Joe Biden has knows
Israeli history. He knows the Palestinians. He's been doing
this for a long time. And he knows that this is a case of
someone who wants to have a group that wants to destroy
Israel and push the Jews into the sea. And so he said that it
is also making the case which I think Solinsky is a little ahead
of him on Ukraine and Israel, the Morgans Tomas and against
Putin are joined their wars against barbarism.
Adam Curry: What? Yeah. What did he say
John C Dvorak: that Putin in Hamas are the same? Ukraine and
Israel is the same. Wow. Wow. Okay. Yeah.
Adam Curry: It's the same. It's the same except the reverse, but
John C Dvorak: we can't actually say it's the same. It's the same
Hello. So
Adam Curry: you have a big country like Russia is just like
Hamas? The big country and the big country, the big the big
elephant in the fight? Okay. All right. Okay, good.
John C Dvorak: Let's go Brooks to K part two.
Unknown: And I think he sees that clearly. And so I just
think it was it was just a marvelous display, moral
clarity, and real storytelling. For a guy who stories grand
narrative storytelling, and rhetoric is not always the great
gift, but I just thought magnificent
moral clarity and grand storytelling. What's your
assessment of the administration's response?
I agree with with David 100%. President, it's the Secretary of
State who spoke from the heart next to Prime Minister Netanyahu
and Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin being there earlier in
the day today also showing solidarity but i What happened a
week ago, tonight or tomorrow is really it's beyond disturbing.
And I I just feel compelled. You know, as an African American, I
understand the ancestral pain and terror felt by my Jewish
friends and Jews around the world by what happened this was
not what Hamas did was not the usual Middle East back and
forth. This was barbaric.
Adam Curry: This is literally what you get called out for. If
you say I have a black friend. You know, that's, that's a raw
take. No, but you can see I have a Jewish friend but oh, that's
Dr. Jewish friend. Okay.
John C Dvorak: Another Jewish friend.
Adam Curry: I got Jewish friend. Oh, man. That's not so
John C Dvorak: they're pushing this barbaric thing. So, of
course, so they are building up to this and now I'm going to
take us into the to the egregious editing of a Trump
clip to make him say stuff he didn't say and I have the
original clips. I dug them up. Okay, the way we do Yes, and I
want to compare one to the other but let's start but it's also
the reaction first they edit it clip, and then they react to it
even though the clips of fake If they react to it and they go
out, they go off the rails with how bad Trump is as a person.
This is the the intro to this clip and this is Brooks Trump
edit intro as we
Unknown: talk about the Biden administration's response and
response his predecessor Donald Trump drew why criticism and
condemnation this past week for faulting Netanyahu for calling
Hezbollah very smart in his remarks.
Adam Curry: Oh, it's another it's a new very fine people is
the very smart people. Now this is good. This is good. Okay,
where do we go now?
John C Dvorak: Okay, so first of all, he makes a mention he that
that's the host guy, the black guy, postgame he mentions the
Netanyahu and then he mentioned that, that Trump says Hezbollah
is very smart. And now we go to they take the clip of a butcher
a clip, and they don't even have it from the same feed. So it's a
mess. And I tried to even clean it up with Adobe. But to hell
with it. Let's leave the mess with the way it is because Adobe
actually doesn't work on Trump. No interest. Very, I've noticed
this before. Adobe does not work on Trump. They hate Trump. He
must. So they probably do. Silicon Valley. So let's go to
this is the Brooks Trump and this got the edited clip this is
to Okay,
Unknown: I'll never forget that Bibi Netanyahu let us down. That
was a very terrible thing. I will say that it is a GI Oh, PES
Villa desert attacks on the north, because that's the most
vulnerable status.
And we can contrast that to what Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley had
to say,
Israel has a right to defend itself. And that means do that
to the hilt. You have to uproot the terrorist infrastructure,
these networks, and Hamas needs to be no more this is sick, and
we
have to treat sick people the way they deserve to be treated
and eliminate them.
Your response to what Donald Trump had to say.
The clip you showed is exhibit number, whatever it is, of why
he should never ever again be entrusted with the power and
responsibility that comes with sitting in the Oval Office. I am
happy to be wrong about the reaction from the Republican
presidential field. I thought they would follow form and not
criticize Trump at all for fear of engendering rage of their
base. But Governor Haley, Governor DeSantis, Governor
Christie, former Vice President Mike Pence, most of them
criticize Trump, and I applaud them for that. But there's no
way that guy should be President of the United States, again, by
back clip alone.
Adam Curry: So you know, when we deconstruct clips, and we're
looking at the media and we get another kind of feedback I read
earlier, these a holes are just politicizing it for their own
for their own ego, whatever it is, oh, whatever it is, let's
keep Trump out. That's That's disgusting.
John C Dvorak: waiting to hear their original Trump clips. I
can't wait. We can also play I think Brookes reaction to this
same edited little clip where he says Netanyahu, first Trump
brings in Netanyahu then he says Hezbollah smart. And this says
they're gonna attack from the north or something. It's a very
confused, it's a really screwed up edit. And then they bring in,
as you heard DeSantis talking about a Hamas, which is not what
Trump was talking about. And then Nikki Haley saying it's
these people are sick, kind of indicating that Trump
Adam Curry: is sick, which is not what that was about at
John C Dvorak: all. That was not what that was about. So this is
a real real hack job hack job. Exactly. And here's the follow
up by Brooks.
Unknown: It's also a reminder of how Donald Trump's isolationist
views have really realigned the Republicans approach to foreign
policy.
It's stunning. I mean, it well, first that Donald Trump clip,
everything is about Donald Trump, like 1000 People get
murdered, and it's all about Donald Trump. And the party has
you know, it was the party of, of anti communism. It was the
party of American led world order. It was the party of
containment against Russia against the Soviet Union. And
now it's very much the opposite. And as I look at the Republican
Party, I just want to make sure they're gonna fund Ukraine
John C Dvorak: so now, these are two guys that are supposed to be
arguing with each other to give people perspective when they
watch the PBS NewsHour, right. And but no, there are two guys
that are in total agreement. Neither one of them are
representative of anything other than one lone pro Ukraine view,
but just go back to that clip that they butchered and listen
to Trump's actually this is a long clip, but you need to hear
the whole thing in context. The six This is actually a good
sorry, this isn't good. This is good quality. This is the Trump
unedited comments regarding Hezbollah being smart
Unknown: for $6 billion was a tremendous amount of money, but
nothing compared to the hundreds of billions of dollars that
Biden allowed them to make and oil and other things, hundreds
of billions that became a rich nation in three years. That's
why they're doing this f so much money. They don't know what to
do with it. They had no money, they were broke. And then there
was the inevitable attack four days later, which I predicted.
And then two nights ago, I read all of Biden security people,
can you imagine National Defense people? And they said, Gee, I
hope Hezbollah doesn't attack from the north. Because that's
the most vulnerable spot. I said, Wait a minute. You know,
Hezbollah is very smart. They're all very smart depressant, like
when they say, you know, I said that President Xi of China, 1.4
billion people, he controls it with an iron fist. He said he's
a very smart man. They killed me the next day. I said he was
smart whenever I get a say. But his was diverse. And they have a
national defense minister or somebody saying I hope Hezbollah
doesn't attack us from the north. So the following morning,
they attacked, they might not have been doing it. But if you
listen to this jerk, you would attack from the north because he
said that's our weak spot. Whoever heard of official saying
on television that they hope the enemy doesn't attack in a
certain area. Now unless it's a con job. But you know what a con
job is you're waiting. They're ready. You want them if you want
to, but they weren't ready. They weren't ready. You know, say
what you want. Israel was not ready. This was a big surprise.
This was a terrible thing that happened. They weren't ready.
But if you wanted them to attack because you've got a million
people there with guns and you're gonna blast to hell, then
you do exactly, but they didn't have that. They didn't have that
Biden's National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, even
bragged just days before the attack that the Middle East
seems to be quite quiet. That was good. They really, they
really, honestly what they've done. It's a shame.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Okay, now, what couple of things about
that, oh, this is all in context. It's fine. What he
said, Whoa, he's not complimenting Hezbollah, like
they also like to imagine, but what did you notice? There was
no mention of Netanyahu in that entire
Adam Curry: letter. They edited that together. So that and it
was in the intro piece. It was two different pieces of audio.
That's the first thing I noticed. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: it was they did a botch job. I mean, they could
have had good quality because it was all from the same speech. In
fact, I have the Netanyahu piece, and the Netanyahu piece,
which they just pulled out of context and dropped it in as a
cheat as a as a sleazy lowest form of journalism thing you
could possibly do, which they did on PBS. I have the Netanyahu
piece, which actually stand alone is very interesting and
could have been used as a jumping off point for a big
discussion. And I'm surprised that they didn't do that because
it's more interesting than what they did, which was just Trump
batch. But listen to this. This is Trump on on Netanyahu. It's a
backgrounder. That's kind of interesting.
Unknown: The savage attacks on Israel happened for three
reasons Biden loosen might
Adam Curry: not the grudge clip. This is the regular live show. I
John C Dvorak: used to grudge clip.
Unknown: I did have a bad experience with Israel, though.
When we took out Soleimani. It was us at Israel working as a
group. And we knew where he was. We knew how he was coming in. We
knew the plane. We knew everything. We worked on it for
weeks for months, actually. But we worked on it for weeks. The
night before? Nope, I didn't I don't think this has ever been
told. They'll say oh, it's classified information. Well,
maybe it is. But I don't think so. Israel was going to do this
with us. And it was being planned and working on it for
months. And now we had everything all set to go. And
the night before it happened. I got a call that Israel will not
be participating in this attack. Let's do it. And he came on the
plane and we follow them right from the Situation Room. We
followed the whole thing and about 15 seconds later it was
all over. And we did it but I'll never forget. I'll never forget
that Bibi Netanyahu let us down that was a very terrible thing.
I will say that we were disappointed by that very
disappointed but we did the job ourselves and it was absolute
precision. magnificent, beautiful. And then maybe tried
to take credit for it. That didn't make me feel too good but
that's all right. So they gotta strengthen themselves up.
Adam Curry: Wow, that's that is a little piece of info we didn't
know about.
John C Dvorak: We had no idea but he noticed a little part in
that clip versus BB let us down is the little piece they took
out They chopped it from that and put it on the front end of
the other.
Adam Curry: Let's play that intro again,
Unknown: as we talk about the Biden administration's response
response, his predecessor Donald Trump drew wide criticism and
condemnation this past week for actually the beginning because
it's too hard to
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Yeah,
Unknown: I'll never forget that Bibi Netanyahu let us down. That
was a very terrible thing. I will say that and they said gee,
I hope Hezbollah doesn't attack from the north.
Adam Curry: Wow, that I mean, you should you should be fired
from journalism for doing that.
John C Dvorak: They should all be fired from PBS should PBS
should take a knee for for this is the one of the most egregious
examples of editing. And false it's this is misinformation,
misinformation.
Adam Curry: Yes. Blatant, blatant on your national
treasure PBS or NPR. So I'm one of those two, same thing.
John C Dvorak: So those are the original clips and you can see
that they they totally, this is a lie. And Brooks and K part
should be ashamed of themselves for going along with it. And
then making a big fuss about what a jerk Trump is.
Adam Curry: Unbelievable. It's not unbelievable. It's
believable. It's totally booked. No, it's
John C Dvorak: not unbelievable, because it's happened
believable. Yeah. So that's good. Good presentation.
Adam Curry: I like it. I like it. Well, of course, we were
told
John C Dvorak: and I want to say it again. Do not send your money
to these people send it to us. Yes,
Adam Curry: we don't have tote bags, but we can use the money,
that's for sure. So of course everybody was all riled up about
the Day of Rage this
Unknown: morning law enforcement officers across the country on
heightened alert after Hamas has called for a Global Day of Rage.
The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office is pulling personnel from
specialized units to increase visibility. In New York
congregates from dozens of synagogues prayed for peace as
helicopters watch for suspicious vehicles from above
and boats with radiation detectors patrolled the waters.
The NYPD telling its officers to prepare for 12 hour shifts.
We have directed the NYPD to surge additional resources to
schools houses of worship to assure that they are safe.
John C Dvorak: So as far as I know, they got some day I got a
Day of Rage clip. Okay. What's his? Well,
Adam Curry: there's always something going on in the world.
Yeah, there's something
John C Dvorak: that's why I think this is a good example.
This is the various 13th which is the de river Okay, right.
stabbings.
Unknown: A Jewish teacher in France is reportedly dead after
a knife attack to others have been injured and asylum seeker
reportedly went on a stabbing spree attacking various people
screaming
Adam Curry: alone notice notice we've gone to asylum seekers now
which is the it's the word they use in Europe. We're going to
use it everywhere. It does be using this for years asylum
seeker. Asylum Seeker
Unknown: reportedly went on a stabbing spree attacking various
people screaming Allahu Akbar, France's President Emmanuel
Macron visited the school on Friday afternoon. Also a staffer
at the Israeli embassy in China was stabbed on the sidewalk in
Beijing for the chose the diplomat being stabbed multiple
times by a man and white
Adam Curry: so that was your Day of Rage not very successful, but
they got us all riled up I think kind of everybody
John C Dvorak: get me riled up. Somebody riled up didn't get
riled Oh, would you must have a clip
Adam Curry: no agenda, people don't know no agenda. People
don't get riled up. We just don't get riled up. We don't
because we know we know what they're doing to us. Now, I want
to talk about the military industrial complex. A lot of
people benefit from this, this crisis in the Middle East. I
just got an A message, I should say, from Sir Brian of London,
boots on the ground. Who, you know, there's this funerals this
guy's attending. He is right in the middle of it, though, and
I've been back and forth with him for days and he's having a
rough go of what's happening. And, and he sent a video and he
has on his and I take his credibility quite high. He's
He's a night that Israel is now using the laser iron beam. Not
Iron Dome, but the iron beam. And it's cool that they have a
laser now shooting things out of the sky. Yep, yep.
John C Dvorak: Okay, there's a couple of things before you go
into these clips. Did you see the Richard angle clip that's
going around showing how the Iron Dome supposedly works? You
see these missiles flying into the air and then they're taking
a right turn and going in the opposite direction. Have you
seen those clips? Well, I've
Adam Curry: seen it I don't know if it's the one you're talking
about. I've seen
John C Dvorak: similar probably. I just don't understand what's
going on with these clips because there was always the
iron Iron Dome at work. Missile going up and then turning around
Ronnie going the other way I thought the Iron Dome was was
Patriot missiles that were shooting these things out of the
sky.
Adam Curry: That's what I thought, well not but now they
have, you can see laser beams. In fact, Jewish laser beams. I
mean, it's a little crazy. But I'm sure they're ours. But these
have directed energy weapons now they're using which is it's
quite like whoa, okay, I didn't expect to see that. Anyway, we
need to go to the military industrial complex, which the
both of these people are part of it in some way. Catherine
herridge, of course, the pixie girl who was read in on all
things, military and intelligence and John Bolton who
is just a huge moustache aihole. And just a quick couple of clips
here because you know, you don't hear from this guy for years,
and he's off the stage. But he's back
Unknown: earlier today I spoke with former national security
adviser to President Trump Ambassador John Bolton about the
situation in the Middle East. As we head into the weekend as a
former national security adviser, what indicators are you
going to be watching?
Well, I think the big unknown question at this point is what
happens with Hezbollah in the north? I think the evidence is
clear beyond real dispute here that the signal caller in this
operation is Iran. They armed and prepared Hamas. I think they
unleashed him at a time they thought it would be beneficial
to Iran in the Iran issue is Rod part of the strategy that
they're following is to get the Israelis sucked into Gaza in a
very heavy way, militarily, and then to unleash Hezbollah from
the North. I think there are some signs along the northern
border. Nothing conclusive, but I think that's the main point of
danger at this point. Yes. Okay.
Adam Curry: Um, thanks. I mean, my my sister in Italy could have
gone on on your show and said that. Let's go a little deeper
into that.
John C Dvorak: Bring her on next time. She's,
Adam Curry: yeah, get on Catherine herridge. Let's get
this. Let's get John Bolton, you're so interesting.
Unknown: Let's take that a step further. Given the scope and the
sophistication of the Hamas attack. Do you believe that
another shoe is going to drop
Adam Curry: Oh, another shoe is gonna drop?
Unknown: I think it's very likely. And I think Hezbollah is
the most likely implementer of that. But there may be terrorist
attacks around the region. Friday has been declared a day
of jihad in the region and around the world. And so this
this really could be the beginning of a much longer
process here. What that will entail, but I think anybody who
thinks hold on to the over in a few days, unfortunately,
mistaken nothing happened. Bolton
Adam Curry: Yeah, nothing. He's such a prognosticator
John C Dvorak: genius. Oh, as a jihad day. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Take a long time. We're gonna need some money and
start printing some money. We need money. We mean money.
Unknown: What does it mean here at home, law enforcement
officials have been telling CBS News and other media outlets
that they're seeing no signs of a specific or credible threat.
Adam Curry: This is so much fun to play that after the global
day at rage.
Unknown: I think at the moment the main threat area is in the
Middle East. I think it's Israel. It's the target, but I
think it's almost certain that having wow wow,
John C Dvorak: wow, what a genius.
Unknown: Look at my moustache. I think it's almost certain that
having missed this attack to begin with, not just Israeli
intelligence. But but our own intelligence community, whatever
evidence there was, they didn't draw the right conclusions. You
know, the next question you should ask is What else have we
missed? What
Adam Curry: else have we missed? Oh, we need more spy gear was
not good. You know, I just as a as a little side note here. This
is fantastic story which checks out and I'm not gonna say it's
related to it per se. But you've heard of Pegasus. The spyware
Pegasus, the company Pegasus? I think so. So Pegasus was, you
know, that's the Israeli spyware that's on everybody's phone and
they've sold it all around the world. Our our US agencies were
using a Pegasus is great. You can be track everybody. You got
to phone Pegasus is on it. So when, when Trump came in, and
the Obama Biden administration left the Blinken and who is the
assistant deputy director of CIA Avril Haines, I think is her
name Haidee something could be they all started a lobbying firm
called West executive. And they started lobbying for a competing
firm. And that firm was also with a P. O a second
John C Dvorak: that Palantir
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, no, no, this is all follow up
topology Palantir now they started lobbying of course it's
great when when you lobby you know, as a former
administration, prepare Gone Paragon was was call and they
started loving all Paragon we gotta get you got to have
Paragon and and you know this is no good this this Pegasus
software. And coincidentally, if you recall the big stink about
Khashoggi was that it was Pegasus software that the
Israeli Pegasus company had sold to Saudi Arabia that got him
killed. You remember that? Remember that?
John C Dvorak: Vaguely remembers it?
Adam Curry: Yeah. So that was probably planted by these guys
because they get back in with Biden. And in March of this
year, Biden writes up this huge executive order on prohibition
on use by the United States government of certain commercial
spyware that poses risks to national security. And when you
know, that was written precisely to outlaw Pegasus, and have this
other software be the software and they haven't sold it to
Saudi Arabia. So it's just a little side note. But when you
have the Israeli government highly relying on one software,
for spying on anybody with a phone, and that's Pegasus, and
all of a sudden, it's no good and everyone has to have Paragon
and that company starts to bleed employees bloat bleed clients,
that may have contributed in some way to some lapses in
security. I have no proof for that. But I just thought that
was interesting that Sullivan and all these eight holes,
including Ehud Barak, they were all involved in in this lobbying
firm, and then they get in and boom, there you go. They get rid
of that company. And this new company is supposed to be it and
I don't even know if the Israelis are using it. Now, just
a little side note. So when Bolton says, oh, yeah, baby
lapse and security, maybe our lap, maybe it was a shitty
software you brought in
Unknown: why are the
John C Dvorak: US or no lapse in security? That also possible?
Unknown: What are the US government's best options to
secure the release of the hostages bomb Iran?
Well, I think at this point, unfortunately, given how caught
by surprise we were, that it's going to take rescue efforts
under extraordinary extraordinarily difficult
circumstances. I mean, I think the administration is correct to
seek a diplomatic approach they're in gutter today. I just
don't think Hamas is in a mood to bargain I think they've got
a gutter he said gutter he didn't say cutter
which they're in gutter today. Yeah, gutter is in a mood to
bargain. I think they've got very valuable bargaining chips
that they're going to get a much higher price for at least that's
what they think. I think the hostages are in grave danger and
I think therefore any further time that goes by before rescue
efforts begin puts their lives in even greater danger than it
is already All
Adam Curry: right. So Bolton is that just asking anybody to come
on who's connected to anything Think Tank anything money
anything hateful, these are all just horrible people who would
just talk him out of there but but the best by far the best
person the best representative of the military industrial
complex on mainstream M five M. Television is definitely Lindsey
Graham. Lindsey Graham is rocking it. And he is making
very sure we understand that Iran is in our sights, boss
Unknown: in the last hour announcing it's going to begin
to execute hostages and post video evidence online for every
Israeli airstrike. your sights on this moment, Senator?
Well, for every Israeli or American hostage executed by
Hamas, we should take down and Iranian oil refinery. All the
way you got to keep this for from escalating is to hold Iran
accountable.
Adam Curry: The only way you keep the war from escalating is
by bombing another country? Yes. How
Unknown: much more death and destruction do we have to take
Adam Curry: by creating more Lindsey
Unknown: from the Iranian regime? I am confident this was
planned and funded by the Iranians. Hamas is a bunch of
animals who deserve to be treated like animals. So if I
was Israel, I would go in on the ground. There is no truce to be
had here. I would dismantle Hamas. This is the best
opportunity Israel has to destroy Hamas. Take it to the
Iranians. If you harm one American in Syria by using your
Iranian militia against us in Syria, to escalate an area
urging Hezbollah to attack Israel in the north, if Hamas
kills one American Israeli hostage, we're going to blow up
your oil refineries and put you out of business. It is now time
to take the war to the ayatollahs backyard.
Adam Curry: I mean, he's channeling Bush now.
John C Dvorak: They know he made handling McCain.
Adam Curry: Well, but yeah, of
John C Dvorak: course if and if you remember, I wish we could
find a clip where we can. Of course, of course We have
Barbara and sewing as bom bom bom bom bom Irfan
Adam Curry: I'm sure we have it
John C Dvorak: we do have it is this God knows what it's called.
Yeah no this is all
Unknown: bomb bomb Iran bom bom bom bom bom I
Adam Curry: think it's our own version. I like it.
Unknown: Bom bom bom bom bom Moran. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: So the ghost of John McCain.
Adam Curry: He's still with us. He's
John C Dvorak: still with us. And he's being channeled through
Lindsey Graham now if you
Adam Curry: think that was good and who is his buddy and just as
an aside, this is exactly what we talked about this has always
been on the radar. This is pure evil that exists in the West,
not even one group of people is just evil that is taken over.
And they these people don't actually care about dead
Israelis or dead Palestinians. They don't care about any of
that. They don't care about you. They don't care about me. They
just care about the programming they have in their brain to just
bomb stuff more money getting into the markets, we need stuff
to happen. This is what we live for.
Unknown: What I would do is I would bomb a Ron's all
infrastructure, the money financing terrorism. This is on
CNN now comes from Iran. It's time for this terrorist state to
pay a price for financing and supporting all this chaos. Yes,
if you're the Iranians, if we're up to me, this war escalates.
I'm coming after you.
I think this is what I'm trying to clarify here. Because I'm
wondering, listen,
Israel, US and Israel, is
the United States. Crystal clear The United States. Let me just
let me just understand you.
John C Dvorak: What was the point of that he
Adam Curry: has no he he's telegraphing that we aren't
going to do it. It's US and Israel, Israel, Israel, but
okay. And the telegraphing is we're going to give them all the
stuff, Bibi is going to pull the trigger, someone's going to pull
there's not going to be us. Now we want Israel
John C Dvorak: to throw that in because he forgot to do that
earlier. Yes. You
Unknown: forgot, drill us in Israel, the United States.
Crystal clear in the United.
Adam Curry: Let me just let me join operations. That was
exactly what Trump was talking about when when Bibi pulled out
of the joint operation. Isn't that interesting. But he's
clear. It's clear. Now I
Unknown: understand you. Just to be clear, you're saying that you
would want the United States and Israel to bomb Iran, even in the
absence of direct evidence of their involvement in this
attack? Hey, yeah, so
Adam Curry: what evidence, evidence Come on? Everybody
knows this. Yeah.
Unknown: If there's an escalation, Abby, there's
people's throats being cut on television, as Israel goes into
Gaza.
Adam Curry: She's already telling us what the what the
nightly programming is going to be. It's as if he knows Oh, if
we start seeing people's throats getting slit on television, wow,
tick tock, maybe television really, really, they haven't
shown much on television, or shown anything. Please don't
email us. We've seen that we've seen
John C Dvorak: Okay, now we got to telegraph account. Don't
worry about we have a telegraph but
Adam Curry: he is telegraphing. He is telegraphing what we're
going to see.
Unknown: Yeah. So if there's an escalation, Abby, if there's
pappy throats being cut until How is
Adam Curry: people's throat being cut on television
escalation of anything, but the mainstream media is not an
escalation of the atrocities? No, I mean,
John C Dvorak: no, I know exactly what you mean. He's
just, he's gotta be he's got a script. He's going by I don't
know where it came from who's delivered it? But it's always
well, of course, again, I like I'll say it again, it came.
We're behind. we're way behind on that. On that on the west
Clarke seven. Yep. And things are time is running out on this
Iran deal. So they're either going to have to do they got to
take action now because this is the last bit and if Trump comes
back in office, which is possible, not gonna happen,
won't happen. Not gonna happen. So they mean something will
happen. But we will be that which
Adam Curry: is exactly why Brooks and Dawn are over there
saying, oh, it'd be horrible if Trump came back in Oh, no,
because then we won't be able to bomb Iran. So I know Iranians,
by Iranian friends.
Unknown: If there's an escalation Abby, if there's Pam
throats being cut on television, as Israel goes in Gaza, and
they're threatening to kill the hostages of Hezbollah, As
unleashed on Israel in the north, it will be because Iran
is supporting that. If you don't get the connection between Iran
and this terrorist activity by Hamas and Hezbollah, you're
missing a lot. This is a terrorist state that has
American blood on its hands. It is now time to dismantle the
financing system of terrorism. If this war escalates, yes, I
would do to joint military operation joint I tell the
Iranians today, if the war escalates, you will pay a price
you will be out of that all business want to be crystal
clear? And if we don't,
Adam Curry: that's interesting. You'll be out of the oil
business, the oil before business, are they still in the
oil business?
John C Dvorak: Or did they trip up, though tripped the clip by
played from Trump starts off with him talking about the fact
that they went from nothing to let allowing him to produce oil
to the tune of 80 to $100 billion in profits war in Iran.
All day, I would like you to play the just the beginning of
this again, because this is the
Adam Curry: which one is that which is the clip.
John C Dvorak: I think it's the BB background. But no, it's the
unedited comments just right. The very beginning. He's talking
about Iran
Unknown: for $6 billion was a tremendous amount of money, but
nothing compared to the hundreds of billions of dollars that
Biden allowed them to make and oil and other things hundreds
and 1000s it became a rich nation.
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Good catch. Trump's
John C Dvorak: blaming it on Biden. Yeah. More because they
loosened up some restrictions, of course, sanctions.
Unknown: If the war escalation will pay a price, you will be
either all of this.
Adam Curry: Do we? Did we ever get those hostages back, by the
way, which was the ones that we paid $6 billion for? Have they
been interviewed? Or have they been on 60 minutes have been
this would be a big deal? I mean, these are each person's
about a billion bucks. Should we be talking to them
John C Dvorak: to remember there was hostages involved in this
deal? Yeah, that's
Adam Curry: guess the $6 billion was to get hostages back from
Iran.
John C Dvorak: Iran? Oh, that's right. There was a few
prisoners. Yeah,
Adam Curry: prisoners. Alright. Do we do we? Do we know even who
that what their names are? If they'd been on television? I
mean,
John C Dvorak: their names or their CIA names? Thank you.
Unknown: If the war escalates, you will pay a price you will be
either or business. Want to be crystal clear on that? And if we
don't do that, what do you expect to happen in the future?
Do you expect Israel to forgive and forget? Biden did mention
one word about Iran today and I want to support the president.
I'm supporting the Saudi Israel peace deal. Israel made peaceful
several Arab countries through their Abraham Rickroll course. I
want to help the Palestinians we can do business with as part of
a Saudi Israel peace deal, but I'm tired of letting Iran I
think they did this to stop the Saudi Arab peace negotiations.
The Iranians, I don't want to reward them I want to punish
them.
Adam Curry: Now that he says that I think that's bull crap,
too. But this month Oh, they did this to stop the peace
negotiations really? Really think that Iran just I mean, is
it true Iran just wants death and destruction?
John C Dvorak: Bring back a tweet I mentioned in the
newsletter somebody posted which was about it seems a little
weird. That on the 50th anniversary of the famous Yamba
Kapoor award, the 50th anniversary debt the debt Israel
let down their guard.
Adam Curry: Yes, see? Seems like we you know, did you remember
odd? Did you read Seymour Hersh his
John C Dvorak: piece? No, no, I didn't know what he did. What'd
he say this time so
Adam Curry: it was also the Sukkot celebration. But yeah, so
I'm gonna reading verbatim from his just reading a paragraph or
two. The so called celebration near Palestinian village, known
in Hebrew is how it should need would need extra ordinary
protection given the tension over the latest violence and the
local Israeli military authorities with the approval of
Netanyahu ordered two of the three army battalions each with
about 800 soldiers that protected the border with Gaza
to shift their focus to the so called festival that left only
800 soldiers the insider told me to be responsible for guarding
the 51 kilometer border between the Gaza Strip and southern
Israel. That meant the Israeli citizens in the South were left
without an Israeli military military presence for 10 to 12
hours. They were left to fend for themselves. And that is why
Bibi is finished. It may take a few months but he's over. Now.
I'm jumping ahead because I want to get to that because I have
some other things that play into that. But first we need to
listen to Lindsey Graham. He's just I mean, you could do a
super In fact, I'll probably get a super cut. So now he got I was
done with crystal meth and he lays out this plan.
Unknown: Listen to me now and listen to me good. We should,
without lubricant, go into Gaza from behind. I know it sounds
brutal, but we need to penetrate them blow our loads. And then
subsequently Plowshares ai i love it. Actually, if we stay
inside for an extended period of time because we need to make
sure that the deed is done. I have been an expert on this
subject for many years. And I think now is the time to act.
Adam Curry: That's AI obviously, but I thought it was fun fun to
play.
John C Dvorak: It is was the AI is getting funnier. Yeah. The
problem, of course, is that if you don't listen to our show,
and you don't know or super skeptical about everything, you
will be susceptible to some AI shenanigans. But
Adam Curry: the whole point of good AI is that you catch on and
it's funny. I mean, otherwise it just no good.
John C Dvorak: Most people can't do that and lizard kind of
training. You have trained ears. I don't believe that 90% of the
people that would hear that 90 wouldn't buy into it.
Adam Curry: No, come on. It's like yeah, we gotta
John C Dvorak: say that, but
Adam Curry: that's fine. That's fine. Now before I get to the
Netanyahu bid, just one more just as its global, the whole
Iran focus, as we suspected, yea perhaps predicted is everywhere
as let's go to the European arm of the CIA propaganda machine
toyed chavalla with some think tank aihole
Unknown: for its incursion, Hamas has used 1000s of drones
and rockets and carried out cyber attacks. The conflict has
raised questions as to how the group is able to finance these
complex attacks.
Adam Curry: They've done cyber attacks. This is news to me.
Every cyber attack is always Russia. Now Hamas has done North
Korea. Now Hamas has done cyber attacks, very complex seems
unlikely. Well, it's the CIA come on these or whatever
Unknown: questions as to how the group is able to finance these
complex attacks. Israeli retaliation also has enormous
costs for the economy of the Gaza Strip, which is under Hamas
rule. Joining me for this conversation is Matthew Levitt.
He's the director of the program on counterterrorism and
intelligence at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.
Adam Curry: Oh, goodness, I mean, you know exactly what this
is. We need a gig like that. I want to be at the National
Institute for terror Near East Institute,
John C Dvorak: something up like that, and probably do as well as
we're doing for the show, or better
Unknown: East policy, has been using drones, cyber attacks and
rockets against Israel. Where is it getting the funding for these
weapons from
Adam Curry: a where's it getting? Hello, hello, Think
Tank guy, Hamas and Hezbollah things in the background? Why
what I'm just out of curiosity, do you have any idea where
they're getting the funding for these cyber attacks? Could you
Could I'm at a loss, what could it be
Unknown: moss is funding streams have changed over the years in
particular, in 2007, when Hamas took over the Gaza Strip by
force of arms, pointing its guns not at Israel In that instance,
Israel had already withdrawn but against Palestinians, once it
controlled territory, it was able to tax some might say
extort the local population. And that is its primary source of
income right now. The second most important source of income
and this is something that has been consistent over decades
since the founding of Hamas in the late 1980s. US government
estimates that Iran provides some us somewhere between 70 and
$100 million a year, probably additional funds and moments of
crisis like this. And that has been constant. That is money
that is in kind that is weapons there is on top of that
training, intelligence support, etc.
Adam Curry: Okay, so it's clear who we need to go after because
Iran is the problem. It's not a bunch of nut jobs known as
Hamas, who are just blood thirsty. We don't even have to
talk about the genesis of that. We've done that. But it's all
her right. It's all about Iran. It's all about Iran. Now. We get
to Bibi Netanyahu and another player that we haven't really we
haven't played paid any attention to this woman. So my
initial and I think yours will be one of the initial who
benefits from this. Well, you know, Biden benefits as a war
president Hunter Biden benefits the NGOs who are flowing asylum
seekers into every Western country in the world. They
benefit don't look at our border. Look at that one. Look
at that. 51 kilometer. Now, look at that board. That board over
there that board, don't look at Ukraine. Don't look at any of
this stuff. So a whole bunch of people the end machinery
benefits and the military industrial comp everyone
benefits benefits benefits Wall Street's gonna benefit everybody
the oil guys are gonna benefit are benefiting my friend paid
for dinner so I know he's benefiting but but Netanyahu had
this huge problem and I think we need to revisit this it's
controversial because we have understood this from many people
boots on the ground no agenda producers that the Supreme Court
I'm just I'm just gonna use the simple version Supreme Court of
Israel, Israel Israel they have precedence over the parliament
but over the government they can say, you know, we don't like
this law or this run of the blue, they can do it whenever
they
John C Dvorak: will slightly different than our Supreme Court
which has to have it presented to them through the court
system.
Adam Curry: Yes. And then here, it's just um, yeah, we don't
like what you did.
John C Dvorak: Key Exactly. Yeah, it's pretty. And it's
really
Adam Curry: also filled with an app going on a limb because I'm
not really schooled in it. But in Israel, you have Ashkenazi
Jews and Sarfati I think is Sephardi Jews, which would be
like my 40 Sephardic, like my buddy Benco Han, who wouldn't go
dark all have dark skin, then and in the Supreme Court is
pretty much all the white Jews, the Ashkenazi Jews and their
leaders and their woke stirs. And they're just like, the
liberal, the nut jobs here in the United States.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And,
Adam Curry: you know, they're like, Yeah, you know, everything
LGBTQ, you know, everything's all good. It's all beautiful.
You know, we could you know, you know, don't just the whole
thing, everything is It's identical. And Bibi Netanyahu,
who I've always considered to be very sketchy guy, I said, sketch
them very sketch says, I'm gonna retract that. I'm both. I've
always been skeptical about the guy. He's like, Yeah, go it. But
we've been programmed to think he's a criminal. He's a
gangster, he's no good. He's a war monger. He was voted in by
Democratic vote, if you trust elections, to change with one
mandate to change the judicial system, so that the people of
Israel would feel like they actually have a say, and not
just this star pushed around by the judiciary. Yes, this
Starfleet Command. And so what happened was, and this is Sir
Brian of London has said these riots that were ongoing that had
been going on since his election, and all of these, all
of the accusations and their, they hate gays, and they're
corrupt, and they're horrible people, he says is pretty much
identical to Trump and Black Lives Matter. And that these
protests are, you know, and so all professional signs and
people are getting riled up and the military is getting
involved. But it was it's been led by a very interesting woman
named Sheikh my Bressler thinks she's 4142. Good looking. She
actually started the Black Flag protest earlier, which is much
more black lives matter related, but she led this protest. She's
a physical that a particle physicist from CERN. But somehow
she got drafted into the to being the leader of this
protest. And I could not find it. But she apparently somewhere
along the line said, you know, this Netanyahu, you better give
it up. Something bad's gonna happen. end of September, I've
been looking for that quote. Because that would kind of that
would close the loop. But she was interviewed by The Times of
Israel. And I just pulled a couple of clips because I have a
feeling that this protest cannot be isolated from what happened
by the lapse in security, as certainly maybe the lack of
response from the military. And the fact that Seymour Hersh, who
we I hold him pretty in high regard. Seymour Hersh says this
guy's finished, he's done. This might have been a plan to get
rid of Netanyahu that perhaps they misjudged, and it went too
far. Here's a little bit of this interview with Schick, my
Bressler so she come
Unknown: I asked you What matters now. Maybe it will sound
a bit dramatic. But what matters now is really to
Adam Curry: say I'm sorry, I should say this interview is
from March of this year. Just coincidentally, the same time
Biden did that executive order with the security change, but
I'm not necessarily connecting those two, it'd be actually
Unknown: sound a bit dramatic. But what matters now is really
to save the Israeli democracy to save the state and nation of
Israel. I as part of my duties and job in Weitzman and being
part of a huge international collaboration. I do talk to many
people from abroad. And what is clear to me is that people do
not aware of the dramatic things that are happening these days in
Israel. And the fact that if we will discuss it in a month from
now we could be already beyond the point of no return for What
people need to take away out of this conversation and not wait
to the end of it is to understand that we are now these
days facing a yield curve in the sense that if we are not able to
stop what is going on at the moment, in a couple of weeks,
days, maybe Israeli will no longer be a democracy. And then
once the point of no return has passed, it will take decades to
get back from this point. And maybe it will not even be
possible. And I know it sounds dramatic, but it is dramatic.
But this is the circumstances, this is what matters now. I
think that people are not really digesting, fully digesting what
is going on. And it is dramatic. And it's happening now.
Adam Curry: The only thing she didn't say was existential
crisis. That's the only thing that was missing from that. And
by the way, it's
John C Dvorak: very similar to the Trump is a threat to
democracy somehow.
Adam Curry: Yes. And I realized that my sources are limited. But
I'm just giving you this. My view may be different. On
Thursday, it'll
John C Dvorak: develop Don't
Adam Curry: worry, yeah. But people like
John C Dvorak: that kind of same guy.
Adam Curry: So. So then, in this next bit from the interview, she
says something that catches my ear, and my ears perk up,
because I've heard this somewhere else, listen to this.
Unknown: How could you just to play devil's advocate? How could
you possibly when the government coalition will pass the overhaul
builds? Because it can, it's in power, it will do that? So what
is a win for you? So first of all, some extent we are already
a winning maybe we are winning a battle, but not the entire
world. But you have to understand it's a try. If you
look at the the changes that opened in Hungary in the last
decade, and you when you make the new when you compare it to
what is being done here, they try to do what Obama did in a
decade in Hungary to do here in two months. As I said, it's not
just one law that they are trying to pass, but it's more
than 120 loads that are being really ambushed on on us. And
this will probably not happen the way that they want they
start to tell going to you know, to do this legislation and they
will be done with it in no time. No no defense. And then now they
need to change that. So they're calling back a lot of they're
seeing and only focusing on this committee for the election of
judges, which is the core thing if you go back again to hunger
you will see is that this is how all been started by taking
control over the judicial the courts and the judges so they
are focusing on that. So when
Adam Curry: I heard this I'm like what Orban committed a coup
in Hungary and overthrew the judiciary and the country's calm
and orderly and people seem to be happy there. Did I miss
something that he's a dictator
John C Dvorak: may have been pushing the Orban being a
dictator the left has for at least the entire
Adam Curry: or ban the guy who would not mandate vaccines who
would not eat
John C Dvorak: or Bond started the problem by blocking the
didn't do initial wave of refugees from the Middle East.
Yeah, back 10 years ago yes. Or Bond threw up defenses and said
no.
Adam Curry: And the people of Hungary have seem to be happy
with him. I have seen protests.
John C Dvorak: I don't want to say you know, bring this guy
into the picture but it's as you recall, Tucker went there and
hung out with him and Jed tried to look around for some sort of
problem and could find nothing Orban did take on the judiciary
which did have an issue that with the I don't know this is
like nuts. Okay,
Adam Curry: so when this triggered me I went whoa, hold
on a second hold on
John C Dvorak: or bonds anti globalist Yeah, obviously this
woman is globalist and this is the word this what we're dealing
with now somehow.
Adam Curry: So now three weeks ago, 60 minutes does an
interview with three Israeli IDF soldiers they're in uniform. One
is a helicopter pilot one is and that's the she was always sexy.
female combat chopper pilot lesbian. Does it get any better
than that? The other one is special forces. And I forget
what the third was. And they're just talking about how horrible
Netanyahu is. It's the same topic three weeks ago. Listen to
this
Unknown: head of national security has had multiple
convictions, including supporting terrorism against
Arabs. The finance minister is a self described fascist.
homophobe. As for Netanyahu, he is in the midst of three
separate trials on charges of corruption. The protesters say
that laws his government has introduced over 200 of them
would not only weaken the courts, but control the press
and diminish individual rights. And that this is how democracies
like Hungary became autocratic.
What's happened in Hungary and Poland will not happen here.
There is a trend and it's going against you. Around the World.
We'll be the first to stop it. You're all determined.
We are not joking. We are really trying to stop it and we will
succeed.
One of the big worries is that without a strong Supreme Court,
the ultra orthodox block and the government could turn Israel
into a theocracy where biblical laws prevail.
Our Supreme Court is our last line of defense. And this is our
last safeguard. We need them empowered. We need them
independent, that what we fight for
what is at stake for women, Shira,
that will be sitting in the back of the bus. Literally,
literally. Are you married? I'm married to a woman, a doctor. We
have a daughter, she's one year and eight months.
Her fear of an assault on women's and gay rights is well
founded. A government member said the gay community is more
dangerous than ISIS and Hezbollah.
Adam Curry: Oh crap. For some reason. I must have cut out the
bit worse. They talk about Poland Hungary. No, I heard it.
Oh, it was in there. I completely missed it. Hello.
Sorry. I just thought it came. You know,
John C Dvorak: they mentioned both countries as as autocratic
countries. Yes. Polar. I'm giving you a clip of the day for
digging that baby out of the woods.
Unknown: ever done? Oh, no,
Adam Curry: no, no. This is by this is truly mine. It's not
coincidence. I know who gave it to me. I know who does this.
It's It's Supernatural. So I get this clip. And I'm like, Whoa,
this is the same talking point. Poland Poland. same
John C Dvorak: talking points. I exactly. And it's interesting,
because it kind of parallels the queers for Palestine movement.
Yep. Which I, which I highlighted in the newsletter,
and people should go read the newsletter and click on the
link, or just go to Google or duck duck go, which is what I
use at queers for Palestine and start reading what's going on in
Israel with the game movement there. And the symbiosis with
Palace Steen and the fact that they're all you know, they, it's
just very strange. And I think it's part of that I think with a
clip you just played is part of queers for Palestine.
Adam Curry: So the problem is that they said, We're not going
to let it happen, we will do what it takes. And then here go,
but going back to schema, the leader of this movement,
Unknown: so I think that if, as I said, if this laws will pass,
by definition, the Israeli court system will be underneath the
political system, the government, by definition, it's
not a Democratic democracy anymore. And then we'll have to
you know, we will wake up one day for something completely
different than what we were used to, I think that then then what
we will see here is that the country conditions fall, you
know, goes down quickly, you you we heard yesterday, large groups
from the reserve army unit saying that if this happens,
they will not they will not they will not serve a dictatorship,
they will only that we are here we all took our oath to protect
the democratic a Jewish democratic country and not a
dictator. I think that we see it already we will be affected
economically, very dramatically will be affected basically, in
every aspect, it may not be happening in one day, but But
again, if you look at countries that went down the throats or
condition, and then it will be a huge and a long battle, which
will which you know, we will all be losing, but but it will be it
will be awful, to be awful.
Adam Curry: So she says right there, that reservists army will
not defend a dictator. They will not defend, I presume Israel.
And I'm just putting a couple things together here. It was
like, Do you think it's possible that that they thought, well,
you know, we'll let some we'll let some terrorists come in and
do a little
John C Dvorak: one. They tore down that fence with bulldozers
and nobody did anything or even took a shot at them. That was
extremely suspicious if you asked me They bring bulldozers
up to the fence, and just night the fence over when nobody does
it. And when you have
Adam Curry: when you have the crowd, just like Black Lives
Matter when you have the crowd program, this is an existential
crisis. You don't know what people are capable of doing or
not doing. So if everyone's been this, I mean, you don't see it
much on M five M here. But in this research, I've been looking
at some of the video these protests, you know, getting
pretty rowdy.
John C Dvorak: So there are and monstrous or monstrous protests.
Adam Curry: And so if if there's like, Okay, this is existential
to the democracy and the survival of us here in Israel,
Israel L, then it's, it's not unthinkable that this could have
been, at, at minimum, just let go. And then they underestimated
how ready or how bad it would be Hamas was or how bad it would
be. I mean,
John C Dvorak: they could have estimated how they
underestimated how bad would be, which but if we take this line
of thinking, which nobody wants to do, no, because it's very
unpopular and very busy gonna get more letters to Adam, that
he has to read on the next show. Horrible letters. But if you
take that line of thinking and take it to its logical extreme,
Iran is not involved.
Adam Curry: Very possible, very possible, and Hezbollah
John C Dvorak: won't come down. I mean, we already played the
clips from the last show on that on the Hezbollah's as presented
by LG zero, which is a representative cutter. So you're
gonna get something that's, you know, cutter, and these other
Arab niches don't want to make this into a big deal because
they're gonna get killed. And so the Israelis have shot into
Lebanon from that area where Hezbollah would come in, and
there's no evidence that they're going to come in and they
probably won't.
Adam Curry: They don't have to, for us to go bomb them.
John C Dvorak: Don't have to not if you got Lindsey Graham,
Adam Curry: that's you got him on your side. So I my my eyes
are on schema Bresler. She's, it's baffling, baffling, that
they pull this physical partisan particle physicist from CERN
into this and she becomes this hero. I mean, I'm almost
thinking, Is she going to be the next prime minister? Do we have
a new goldmine? Err on our hands?
John C Dvorak: Who is this woman? I'm looking at her wiki
page. I've looked at looked her up. Who is she? Who is behind
her? You don't she didn't do this on her own. I don't care
what anybody would like to think.
Adam Curry: Well, she's at the Weitzman Institute of Science.
And I've been searching to find out I mean, she was married to
the guide died. Eight ton vert Heimer, which I haven't, it's
very hard to find information on her. She's in that regard. It
was a little like, huh, let me see. You billionaire
businessman. Okay. He was one of Israel's wealthiest men. Okay,
here we go. He died in 2022. Did he? Seven years old. One of
Israel's wealthiest men after us tycoon Warren Buffett bought a
controlling share in his company. Oh, now this makes for
a little more interesting.
John C Dvorak: Read on
Adam Curry: as a philanthropist Wertheimer was an ardent
supporter of Israeli Palestinian businesses and peace
initiatives. He founded Erez college in the northern town of
Shlomi and the experimental school of toughen industrial
park that's all I have on this particular article. So she is a
probably loaded and she comes from the fear in urine you're on
that level. Then you know you've got you're connected. She just
connected she's connected. Me see this car metalworking sold
it to Buffett for 6 billion. Hmm, I don't know. What is this?
Oh, he was an IDF. I know that. I mean, this is where I got
stuck. This is this is what you look at Chick Ma. M she's got
leader written all over her. Neo lib tard leader but she's got
leader
John C Dvorak: reminding me because of the nature of the
jobs woman.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: You know, he's got a wife and Lauren. Lauren.
Adam Curry: Lauren. What's
John C Dvorak: your jobs?
Adam Curry: Lawrence? Their middle name. That's important.
We
John C Dvorak: forgot anyway, she ends up inheriting Disney.
She basically runs she owns the Disney Corporation for all
practical purposes, the major shareholder, and all this other
end Just nothing but money and and stock. And she's I don't
know what her background is but she was she Powell Jobs Lauren
Powell Yeah. Lauren Lauren Powell Jobs. She was she's super
ultra super, I would say naive liberal. And she puts all her
money toward liberal causes and pushes things in that direction,
which is nothing jobs would have done this is interesting.
Adam Curry: March 23 2020, stays around the same time this
interview the same month of the change of the technology
Bressler was detained by police during one of the many Dave
disruption protests held across Israel, Israel. She was later
released former minute Prime Minister and protest leader Ehud
Barak, part of the West exec lobbying firm that brought in
the new software tweeted the Breathless arrest was
dictatorship and action. There's too many connections here. I
mean, I'm just I need some red yarn, people. I need to connect
this on my wall.
John C Dvorak: So we've got plenty of Arabs that listen to
the show. There are plenty of spooks that listen to the show.
I'm sure plenty of military guys to listen to the show. Can
someone share? Share besides Seymour Hersh, who probably is
digging into his into this as we speak? Yeah, I think there's
something going on. As
Adam Curry: as usual. As usual, yes. Then, of course, here in
the United States, everyone loses their crap. And it's very
similar. What happened here, particularly amongst the
universities was interesting. There is such a I mean, everyone
jumping on the end, it's all around the world actually.
Jumping on the pro Palestine where is Roger Waters I keep
waiting for him to leave. He's the guy that's always been anti
Israel Pro. You know, boycott divest and been another be Meo.
Why Why don't the interview him? It's the guy I want to hear from
right now. I want to hear what he thinks.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, it'd be nice. I have two clips I want
to play. This is about US citizens stuck in Gaza. And the
reason I want to play these two clips because there's a kicker
at the end a clip to
Unknown: the State Department says the number of US citizens
killed in the Hamas attack on Israel has risen to at least 29
with 15 people listed as missing. This is Israel prepares
for unexpected ground incursion into Gaza, as dozens of
Americans there are trying to get out. They had hoped to
evacuate today, but they along with more than 2 million Gazans
without us passports remain trapped. Israel has imposed a
complete siege on Gaza, meaning no people, supplies or food are
allowed to come in or out. And here's Nina krupinski, has more.
Massachusetts resident of Budo Cole and his family waited at
the Rafah border crossing for hours Saturday hoping Egyptian
authorities would open the gate to let them out. He and other US
citizens trapped in Gaza were told by the US State Department
that the gate may open between noon and 5pm local time that
window has passed and the crossing remains closed. It's
just extremely frustrating. Oh call his wife and their one year
old baby will spend another night in Gaza
Adam Curry: was interesting little
John C Dvorak: sound. This is not about Americans in Israel.
This is about him. This whole piece was about his buck from
NPR by the way. This whole piece is about Americans in Gaza. Yes.
It was. I guess there's a ton of them there. And there's a kicker
at the end of this one which had me somewhat baffled
Unknown: US officials had been negotiating with Israel and
Egypt to open the border for Americans.
John C Dvorak: For Americans
Adam Curry: Yeah, screw the screw the power to everybody
John C Dvorak: else, which which is a sign of our as a nation of
our empire. And our empathy. The well they empathy screw that we
have empire and it's like you got that border down there. Open
it up for Americans Yeah. You can be sure that we're putting
pressure on the Egyptian Government to open that Southern
crossing that southern accent from Gaza for Americans let them
get let our Americans get out and then you get bombed you
humbled Hold on.
Adam Curry: That will in fact well as we heard from Lindsey
Graham is going to be slitting throats. Americans throats will
be slit an escalation of the violence and escalation anyway
so back back at home man you probably people in America
probably heard about the university signing statements
and me oh we hate Israel. We're all pro pro Palestinian cuz it's
crazy. Here's something from ABC Mrs. from Boston
Unknown: digital billboard parked right outside Harvard
University is attracting a lot of attention. The names and
faces of Harvard students, which we have blurred are displayed
under the title Harvard's leading anti Semites. The
students are allegedly those who signed on to a statement by the
student group Palestine Solidarity Committee, which read
in part, we hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for
all unfolding violence, we're merely amplifying their message.
The man claiming responsibility for the truck says the Harvard
community should know who the students are, if
they're ashamed of what they did and want to apologize, we'll
remove them. If they're proud of what they did. They should thank
us don't
put these people on this screen because it puts them in danger.
But students like Jeremy Ornstein believe the trucks
message is only Adding to the tension on campus, Harvard Hillo
has already condemned this, the Jews of Harvard have already
condemned this and make clear it doesn't bring anything to the
discussion. And it actually brings greater harm and danger
to a lot of human beings who
are here at Harvard University increasing patrols in light of
the divide in an email to students, the school says we do
not condone or ignore intimidation, we do not condone
or ignore threats or acts of harassment or violence.
I know some of the fellow students on this camp on this
campus. And it just hurts my heart. Just see my fellow
friends going through this when they're just standing up for
what they believe that
this issue is very sensitive. And this is a very insensitive
way to portray these Harvard students.
Adam Curry: I don't believe I don't believe this for a second
that these people these anybody certainly in the United States,
certainly not at University has any context any knowledge, any
historical background in in what is happening.
John C Dvorak: Yes, particularly that particular group was
exposed by a couple of documentaries that there's two
groups and they're in they're paid directly from that 100
million dollar slush fund from Iran. And they are I think
there's 300 of them in the country at different
universities including Cal Berkeley, and it they I don't
know whether they know anything or not but they are paid to do
this and that's what they're doing
Adam Curry: and what happens is just like Black Lives Matter
without thought without investigation without any
critical analysis. Oh, I better do it. I better do what everyone
else is doing. You know, I bet this is the problem. Oh Rob, you
know it looks like everyone is off I bet I don't want to be the
guy on the on the wrong side of this argument then everyone's Oh
yeah. No classes let's go No, but that's that's really what's
happened these are sadly our our higher education institutions
have become a
John C Dvorak: well it's a higher educate the higher
educated you get the more boosters you get to so I don't
know if that tells you anything. Yeah, I do have one more
Palestine clip. I want to play more boosters, more boosters
more as you get a PhD, you get all of them. Okay. Speaking of
PhDs, but first let's play Palestine update. Okay.
Unknown: The day old truce between Israel and Hamas
militants appears to be holding after 11 days of fighting. Egypt
has provided a delegation to Israel in an effort to shore up
the truce. Martin Indyk is a former US Special Envoy for
Israeli Palestinian negotiations. Now with the
Council on Foreign Relations. He's not sure either
Adam Curry: party really wants Oh, did you edit that in?
Unknown: Now with the Council on Foreign Relations, he's not sure
either party really wants a peace deal.
on the Palestinian side. It's very hard to see how we could
work towards a final status agreement and on the Israeli
side. There looks like they're going into a fifth election.
They have a caretaker government. Netanyahu was trying
to
John C Dvorak: stop the clip. Oh, I'm sorry. This is a two
year old. I accidentally got put into my pile.
Adam Curry: An old classic no agenda gag. You got me. You got
me. You got me. You got me.
John C Dvorak: All right. Yes, this is from May 2020. Yeah, I'm
sorry. I apologize.
Adam Curry: In an odd way. I just want to play two more clips
and then we need to talk about higher education and PhDs.
There's this woman Esther Perell. And she is she has an
actual title here homeless seconds. She is here we go. Also
younger than she sounds that she's Belgian American
psychotherapist known for her work on human relationships. And
she sounds kind of like a woowoo person you have to Oprah. Oprah
loves her. But she attended the Hebrew University in Jerusalem.
And she's another cutie she could also have she could be in
that in that girl.
John C Dvorak: Amen. You're on to the Jewish cuties today,
Adam Curry: well she's not who she Jewish. Yes. Oh, she's the
daughter of two Polish Jewish Holocaust survivors. I must have
been. Okay. All right. So she shows up on my favorite hate
lists and pivot,
John C Dvorak: which she lists her name again.
Adam Curry: Esther Perell, p e r e, l, okay. And she shows up on
Pivot, my favorite hate listen. And she has a concept which I
kind of like, which is AI is artificial intimacy. Which I
liked, I liked I thought it was it was a good guy. And so I want
to first a minute on the artificial intimacy. And then
the clip that I think is pertinent to what's happening in
the universities and
Unknown: modern loneliness. The masks itself has hyper
connectivity. And so people have easily 1000 virtual friends that
no one can ask to feed their cat. And that loneliness that is
really a kind of depletion of the social capital is extremely
powerful. It's more to men than to women, but it's quite
generous. It's very important. I've been very interested in
talking about modern loneliness as it connects to the rise of
the other AI, artificial intimacy. How often do you find
yourself working the whole day on your laptop, then you can't
wait to close the screen, then you go home, but you're too
tired. And all you do is watch TV. Then while you watch TV,
you're also scrolling on your phone. Then while you're
scrolling on your phone, you lift your head and you see that
two people in the room are doing the exact same thing. This is
modern loneliness. This is artificial intimacy. I am there
but I am not present. And then I talk to you about something that
really matters to me. And your answer goes.
Adam Curry: Uh huh. Uh huh. All right. So again, you don't
criticize don't criticize yet because it's
John C Dvorak: your lead me and you're leading me into two
clips.
Adam Curry: Good. We'll get to that in a moment. So this is the
second and only other clip. So as it pertains to what by
John C Dvorak: the way, stop. She's You said she sounds
younger. Yo, sounds good. She's 65 She's not a young woman.
Adam Curry: Really? And the unreal wiki page she she doesn't
I didn't look at her age really? Now, let me say she is it right.
Now. She looks good. Then for 60 Oh, I just zoomed in okay to now
she looks like Victoria knew she looks
John C Dvorak: like she's 65 It looks like
Adam Curry: I really need to click on those pictures. You
gotta
John C Dvorak: yet get
Adam Curry: busted. Okay. Anyway. So this next clip, this
whole the whole thing was because Kara and Scott, you
know, it's so difficult to talk about the conflict and and she
brings in a little bit here about you know, because of
course, you know, no one can sleep you're scrolling all these
pictures is very bad for you artificial and intimacy. And
then she drops this little nugget, which to me explains
exactly why you're seeing protests, which I think are
completely disingenuous. It's just, let's just be for
something that everybody else is for the new new things
Unknown: is changing something in the world, not just in the
Middle East, the 10, it's not sure that the image is really
the right image. And it really tells the story that it pretends
to tell it's a total mindfuck. There is, it's a little bit like
911, with 10 people titrate, don't just watch it over and
over again, you will not sleep, you literally will not sleep, I
am not sleeping. And I didn't watch much. I just talked to
people. And that's enough. So what you do after that, when you
feel like the tide is rising inside of you. And you just feel
like you don't know what to do with all of this is the most
important thing is to come together with others to
experience collective trauma collectively, to understand that
this is changing something in the world, not just in the
Middle East, and to read poetry, to talk about what's happened to
ask people where they are. I think ally ship is extremely
important in a moment like this. And all of those who missed the
ally ship of Black Lives Matter will understand it even more. So
now that when somebody writes to you just to say, I know you have
an attachment to that place, or I know you know people there or
I know you know if you were there recently or something that
says I know I see you there's nothing else for me to say and
you answer this means a lot you thought of me I exist in your
collective awareness and that is a lot
Adam Curry: over socialized under under educated ally ship
needing nut jobs.
John C Dvorak: That's what I think you've been on that for a
while. I think you're right but where did you get This
Adam Curry: Pro I told you from pivot when? Friday
John C Dvorak: this is an up so why do I say that?
Adam Curry: Why do Why do you say that? What do you say? It's
not because
John C Dvorak: they just ran it lowliness bit. Yeah, you know a
complete feature on NPR. Loneliness. Yeah, I just picked
it up on Friday.
Adam Curry: Ah another up uncovered. Wow. Okay, is I
played these clips.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, let's go loneliness one NPR, the United
States is experiencing an epidemic of loneliness WoW
Report from the US Surgeon General says about half of
adults claim they have experienced loneliness.
Unknown: So for some advice on how to make friends, we turn to
some young experts.
I make friends by sitting next to them at lunch or in a class.
Adam Curry: Where is this person 12.
John C Dvorak: More like eight,
Unknown: it's a little hard in a little easy. You could play with
them or they can play with you
John C Dvorak: stop right there. You know, now, as you mentioned
that they use these kids as foils for this for this feature
that they're doing on loneliness. And I'm thinking
that they're kind of put in the position where they have to do
this because there's some op going on about loneliness, John,
we get
Adam Curry: our producers to have their children say the most
horrible things I know. I mean, you can get the kids to say
anything.
John C Dvorak: Right. But so they put these kids because I
think they're trying to push back against the app. But oh,
let's continue
Unknown: friends by sitting next to them at lunch or in a class.
It's a little hard and a little easy. You could play with them
or they can play with you.
Adam Curry: According to the troll room. Bill Maher also
talked about loneliness epidemic on his show on Friday on Friday.
Hey, everybody, we dropped the OP on Friday.
John C Dvorak: And Friday was the day of the of the 13th the
raid global day every day. Ah,
Unknown: so you should ask them nicely. Try to be nice, because
usually people don't want to be your friends. If you're mean to
them. Oh, that's
Liliana Beckwith Collins a dusky and Liliana is brother, Owen
Beckwith. The fear of rejection sometimes holds people back from
making friends.
When you assume people like you, you are friendlier, you are
warmer, you're more open, you take more initiative,
that is University of Maryland psychologist Marisa Franco.
She's the author of Platonic how the science of attachment can
help you make and keep friends. And she says, paying attention
to people can help you connect with them.
Adam Curry: Wow, do they at any point say if an older person
comes to you, you can trust them to be your friend.
John C Dvorak: No idea what the point of this op is. But the
fact that we have three things going on simultaneously on the
same day, which you'd think they'd spread it out a little
bit. I know, it's very suspicious. Now that they kind
of demeaned the whole thing here on this NPR report. But in the
second half, it's kind of the second clip. It's kind of funny
because the woman who's doing the Who's, who's the presenter
has to demean herself I think at the very end and the whole thing
I believe falls apart, but you know, it continues.
Unknown: If you're just like, present, and you're just like
interested in people like That's enough, you don't have to charm
people.
Having someone to confide in can also affect the way your body
deals with stressful situations. Research shows strong social
connections can reduce the risk of heart disease dementia and
improve your overall well being. Yeah, just as four year old
Edith wintech when I'm with my friend and makes me feel happy.
Okay, so a you don't have any trouble making friends. Am I
right?
No, I do because I don't want any new friends. I describe
myself as friendly not social. So in order to make new friends
you kind of have to be social and I don't want to do that.
So can I be your friend?
I thought we were what do you do audition now is
just checking I was just making sure because you know we're all
we're both nice
Adam Curry: this is this has got to be binary is this something
else coming to this
John C Dvorak: I believe I believe you're right something's
up there How about a new dr. strange and by the way I was
gonna be a good lead into the no agenda meetup section because
into this a you have you have you start making new friends you
you're happier. This
Adam Curry: is correct. And I was planning on doing that
because well I will do it again. But before we even get to the
meet up section, we need to talk about the PhD.
John C Dvorak: Yes, here's my here's what we're doing for the
CIT show. 16 103 Through the 16th anniversary, and probably
and I
Adam Curry: don't even know the entire deal here. So this is new
for me is we're gonna you
John C Dvorak: know, most you know, 99% of it,
Adam Curry: I'd say 80%
John C Dvorak: We're going to do a no agenda is going to be
certificated and recorded, put on a website, and we're not
going to do it forever, we're going to do it for a month, at
most, because this work that Jay is going to have to do.
Adam Curry: Talking about getting your kids to do
something nice, and
John C Dvorak: she's going to charge us for it. So it's gonna
be Oh, it's not frozen. So not so funny is so we're going to
grant the show itself is going to grant a PhD in media
deconstruction. And we're going to do it in a in a in a, in a
way it's done it. Everyone does it the same way by charging you
money.
Adam Curry: Just like a reel of institutions, just like a real
college, will it be $500,000 for a four year education, which
John C Dvorak: is by is a bargain by comparison is going
to be $1,000. It's not a cumulative bull thing. It's
$1,000. Straight up, you will get a knighthood and an
executive producer, but it's not that you can say well, I've
already contributed 500 to my knighthood, here's 500 Give
Adam Curry: me let me let me ask you a question. Can you name
your doc Can you say I'm now a doctor of deconstruction? Or can
you say I'm a Doctor of something else? Do you get to
name your your PhD or your field?
John C Dvorak: You You can do whatever you want. Now, on the
PhD it says Doctor philosophy for Media Studies. Exactly. You
would if you put it on the wall, it would pass by and say
Adam Curry: you have oh, you have a you have a p at European
HD? Yeah. Is it just as valid as any other PhD?
John C Dvorak: depends on your perspective?
Adam Curry: Okay, like, like a knighthood or an executive
producer ship?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, was definitely as valuable as a
knighthood. Is it as $1,000 Straight up, that's it. It's not
$1,000 plus or minus anything? $1,000 or more, you get a
knighthood, a PhD and an executive producer ship all in
one.
Adam Curry: Let's put this just as valid as Joe Biden's PhD. Am
I right?
John C Dvorak: As far as I'm concerned.
Adam Curry: All right. And when we kick this off on the next
show on 1600 are on Yeah, we kick
John C Dvorak: it off, or you can kick it off. Now actually,
today, we have a high donation of 3000. And this person will
retroactively if he wants the, if he wants to PhD, we'll give
it to him because it would be unfair to not give it to
somebody who donated that much the day before we announced the
donations. So that's a retroactive when we can do that.
But from from now on, it's $1,000 that's what it's gonna
cost we figure I figure we'll get 10 or 20 people to do
Adam Curry: i mean i i spent three months in college I have
nothing to show for it. It's you will have a PhD and a hoodie and
I will not have a PhD you know what I'm gonna
John C Dvorak: wait wait if you give $1,000
Adam Curry: DON I want
John C Dvorak: you get a PhD as because you're signing the beard
your signatures on
Adam Curry: that I'd like to thank you for your courage in
the morning to the man who put the seeds in the Doctor of
deconstruction by this gentleman Hello my friend Mr. Johnson
John C Dvorak: in the morning, do you miss random cranium
O'Neill's chips and see boots on the ground feed yourselves in
the water names and nights out there
Adam Curry: hello trolls in the room if you don't mind would you
please put your hands up I want to I want to catch that
people are interested in us 2381 Trolls listening live right now.
That's not That's okay. It's low no it's not
John C Dvorak: low would be 2400 Sunday.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but that was Sunday. Sunday and I just Sunday
night your low some of you leaked out some of you some you
crept out what are you doing? Anyway we need more trolls
trolls if you want to join us I you know who you are. You know
you're a trophy or troll you know who you are. Join us a
troll room.io Or get a modern podcast app. Trust me you're
gonna want one of these. When when the fake news is
everything's coming down. Everything's gonna
John C Dvorak: stay good. Yeah. Yeah, that guy has sent a note
to the hamburger place owners gonna have to meet up Yeah. Do
you have his email? Should we Doc's him?
Adam Curry: No, no, in fact, I emailed him you want to know
what to email me? Yeah. Second. Yeah. Because I he's because it
came through an email to him. Where is it here? I think I have
it here. Not going to Doc's. Anybody you kidding me? Susan
idea. No, you are you're a troll. Get in the troll room
right away. Here it is. I said. So I forwarded the email that I
got from the burger joint guy. And I said to this, Troy said, I
forgive you for doing this. AC and he replied, Go fuck
yourself. Okay? That was basically it. I'm like, No, man,
I forgive me. You
John C Dvorak: don't want to Daxing me or use email. No, I've
Adam Curry: when I forgive. I forgive. It's done. It's um, I'm
not keeping that on me. It's fine. I'm okay. It's all right.
We know that our bad guy
John C Dvorak: is a real creep is really amazing that they find
our show.
Adam Curry: Well, he's, he's got something stuck in his craw
about that. What can I tell you? Anyway? Because I'm sure he'll
be emailing apple and in every other place like oh, what get
these guys off there homophobes at transphobes. So that's why
you want a modern app from podcast apps.com. And these apps
also alert us
John C Dvorak: in the guy had his nuts cut off.
Adam Curry: When we go live, you get an alert, you can listen to
the stream live. It's really It's quite amazing what we're
doing over there to podcasting. 2.0 So do that, or just follow
us? By no agenda. social.com John C. Dvorak. No agenda
social.com. Adam at no agenda social icon. Well, no, I'm not
posting anymore. I'm kind of done. I'm reading I am reading
but I'm not posting I'll repost something. Now it's too
polarized. Everyone's got an opinion. Everyone's I got no
time for it. It's just as bad as any other social network that
you started it. I did. And now it's like, it's our home curry.
What do you think you are? It's our home. Anything it's becoming
it's becoming like no agenda forums?
John C Dvorak: No, nothing. When they start starting their own?
No idea. What's it no agenda social podcast, then? Yeah.
Okay, then you got some.
Adam Curry: Now see, that never works. Because people quickly we
saw that we saw that when it was like the kind of the anti no
agenda podcast and they couldn't keep up because it takes a lot
of work and dedication to do a show twice a week. And they
couldn't even deconstruct our deconstruction, they got tired
of it. Like
Unknown: it's too much work too much
Adam Curry: work to keep up with these guys. Now. One of the main
reasons we're still here 16 years you heard it right there.
Almost 1600 episodes a very interesting confluence of, of
numbers that cross this month is because we haven't relied on
advertising. If we relied on advertising, sponsorship,
underwriting, whatever you want to call it, we would have been
long gone, because it wouldn't have wouldn't have been able to
sustain ourselves with it, which we need, then we can't do this
work as everything full. It's a full time job. You're always all
everything we do is prep. Yeah, go out to dinner with a friend
show prep. Yeah. There's a there's a, I'm here in
Fredericksburg, there's an eclipse show prep. Everything is
show prep. And then just the incoming I've been busy, at
least after filtering the 115 emails in the morning. And then
throughout the day, another 100. And I read it all I read it all
I have to, because there's always going to be that one gem
that you miss if you don't feel like hey, man, can your
assistant reply to me? No, there's no assistant. Donations
are not that good. I wish. I wish. So we all we asked for his
time, talent, treasure, and we so appreciate the talent and the
time that people put into making the show great, such as our
night Daniel, who does no agenda meet ups.com now more important
than ever, as we just heard, because you need to get rid of
the artificial intimacy and get some real intimacy. Look in
people's eyes when you talk to them and not have to be worried.
Because even if you have a completely different opinion
from another no agenda producer, no one's going to vilify you say
well, I don't agree with you. Because we're normal amygdalas
here, normal size. One of the great talents that we receive,
every single show is from our no agenda artists, we appreciate
them so much. They do such great work. And the artwork we had for
episode 1598 titled that one guardrails was an anomaly and
people notice it right away. They said, Oh my God is like an
upside down stamp. Curry Dvorak is not on the artwork, which is
a pretty much a prerequisite. But we laughed so hard when we
saw this from Matt Boisvert. We just had to chuckle when, when
we saw the terror leader one leg one I missing right here living
in a cave answer to the name of Lucky foundries.
John C Dvorak: It's an old guy, right? Have an old joke.
Adam Curry: It was great. And it was. I mean, there was one other
stuff that we Well, I kind of
John C Dvorak: I want to mention somebody. We noticed that was
No, I did that there was no curry Devorah icon there. So it
wasn't like it slipped by us. It was one of those artworks that
we made an exception.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it happens. Yeah, we make it we make
exceptions. We do the I like the The Spy Who Loved Iran and which
I thought was a pretty piece and you correctly said and by the
way you can follow along no agenda art generator.com Dred
Scott also puts these pieces of artwork into the show notes so
you can see what we're talking about. If you look at your
modern app right now you can see it in the chapters. And you said
correctly Well, if you don't really know what's going on just
looks like a James Bond on LSD. I'm like, Yeah, okay. It was
pretty though. But it wasn't as funny as the terror leader. You
know, we're not going to do Stars of David you know, what
else the you use it for the newsletter the peanuts
John C Dvorak: that I did? I thought you did. Yeah. Yeah, I
didn't use that penis. Ah, why do I have the newsletter? I
think I can tell you what I use. No, I use the the
Adam Curry: the yes, the P of war calendar. You laugh? Yes.
Yeah. But I look at that and like that's it was commerce or
blog or AI generated so not stolen? Totally stolen. That
I've seen that from that's
John C Dvorak: totally stolen. I don't care if it's aaj if you
can generate Peanuts characters. That's a copyright viral
violation. I don't care if it's done by AI. But it's that stolen
art that is never going to get used You thief.
Adam Curry: Oh, the so the the faux diddly had a do the math.
And I actually sat with a calculator and we're trying to
figure out
John C Dvorak: like oh no, we gave up after two rounds.
Attempts. It's like
Adam Curry: I can't this what is this artwork about what? I'm
hoping 33 pops out somewhere but no.
John C Dvorak: So that was my if you do do whatever he wants to
do, I'm
Adam Curry: not sure I don't know how to do
John C Dvorak: it. Right numerological tricks
Adam Curry: every odd it didn't work at all for us the math yeah
so and there were other good looking pieces for sure. Good
looking pieces. But nothing quite like the terror leader who
we have who has not emerged as a meme yet so maybe
John C Dvorak: we it's possible that you're all you're going to
be wrong on this one I might be
Adam Curry: Yeah, Muhammad de F it's the right kind of guy but
now
John C Dvorak: he's got all the he's got the all the elements
Adam Curry: He's got everything we need he's we don't know where
he lives. Got one I missing a leg. I am this perfect. But no.
So far no good.
John C Dvorak: Again, we're so far ahead of the game on this
deconstruction stuff that we can do
Adam Curry: months from now does happen it does happen so thank
you very much. Matt for Matt boys word for boys. Ver I wonder
how you pronounce it. We really appreciate the work of all of
the nogen artists we get such a kick out of it every single time
and we just love that we're arguing over real work real
input from people and remember you're not doing it for us
you're doing it for no agenda nation you do it for your
brothers and sisters. That's what's going on here. I mean in
that regard, yes. No agenda socialists also that's you're
doing all that for each other. That's That's all fine. So
that's your time and talent. The treasure portion is of course
critical to keeping the show going. Then the good showing
today in no small part thanks to our top executive producer I
didn't even see this I mean, I'm really look at the I have no
time in the morning to read the whole the whole spreadsheet but
this is from some earthling in Houston in Woodlands Texas
$3,000 Now I'm blown away I'm blown away by this Adam leaves
the note Adam and John thank you for not only wading through the
much each week to the I think it means the muck each week to
provide us with much NO I may be much might be too much to
provide us with the treasure you find but for truly doing it with
your independent approach the NA ecosystem and culture rocks and
we cannot thank you enough for creating it. Thank you again for
truly helping us scour so many sources searching for the truth
Yes you do. You do. Clips, boots on the ground all kinds of great
your own personal experiences all part of the system. That's
why you're all producers, not listeners or fans. Most of all,
thank you for being such an inspirational example of
independence, the V four v and other things y'all do, to remain
free of influence etc is incredible. Honestly, I want to
write a novel to you both just exploring these two principles
but I will refrain for now thank you. Simply put, what you do and
have done is appreciated more than you can know your prayers
karma in Sudha insert how you view it will be appreciated as
well. You got it. I'll give that to you. I would love to pick
your brains with either if you'd be open to a short interview I
may be in I may even be in order to come to Fredericksburg. If
that's In the cards, I'll meet you, brother, or sister, or
sling, some Earthlink, or sling or sling. You can't use the
actual alien, you come to Fredericksburg. Of course, Dad,
I'll take you out to lunch.
John C Dvorak: He's the woodlands. So it's
Adam Curry: not. It's not just a drive. It's a couple of drive to
a couple of thank you so much. And, and congratulations on now.
Are these PhDs numbered?
John C Dvorak: No, but they're listed they're going to be
listed in a an archive.
Adam Curry: Okay, they will be an online Well, you were the
first one to receive
John C Dvorak: like, an official like, well, you actually think
about it, you know, that would be the number and number them
one slash 100 It would be more of an artwork you're getting but
no, we're not doing that.
Adam Curry: You could have just said no, but thanks for the long
day.
John C Dvorak: Thinking about it. The problem is you got to be
thinking about it.
Adam Curry: Some earthling Thank you very much. Here's the karma
your requests I shall pray for you. You've got karma.
John C Dvorak: He well. Was good news from the no agenda shop in
Fayetteville, Georgia. They have our cut of the action $14.18
Since ITM guys the shop is still alive as the shop you should go
visit because they got cool stuff to do. And here although I
think is I think the website it could be easier to find some of
the cool stuff. Here's your cut artists have been paid as well.
If anyone is looking for recommendations check out my
tequila review podcast at still chillin.com and wherever find
podcasts are heard, take you for encouragement all you do.
Adam Curry: And again this is a perfect example of time talent
and treasure no agenda shop they can do whatever they want to do
we have no agreements no contracts, run with it. And we
have we have one restriction don't put our heads on anything.
They work out a deal with the artists who are all nodes in our
generator and then whenever there's something leftover
whenever they feel this right that send a donation. And there
you go. And we've we've we've never even met them in person.
John C Dvorak: And what's cool is that we don't do shirts they
do. We don't do hats they do and people that do shirts and hats
and all the rest that's a business separate from
podcasting to an extreme. We'd be losing $814.18 Euro
Adam Curry: Yes, we would exactly what happened and we'd
have to have meetings. Oh god no great lusty is in Tomahawk
Wisconsin. 477 dot 77 Interesting. Oh, I see driving
1077 miles from Tomahawk, Wisconsin. For the thirsty Third
Thursday meet up in Charlotte, North Carolina. See what well
with three douchebags in Tao in tow. Wow, that's some
dedication. And yeah, and it will pay off. You will love it.
Great, lusty? Send us a report. Send this report.
John C Dvorak: Anonymous in Biloxi, Mississippi. Four.
Three. Biloxi is a really nice place. By the way. I've been
guys first time donating well forgiving me pod father, but I
just wanted to express my appreciation for the show,
especially during COVID. I was an avid Joe Rogan listener when
COVID first started, and I listened to the episode with
that lunatic Michael Osterholm and him saying a million people
are gonna die
Adam Curry: 1,000,003 million.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he says a million in the note. Yeah, he
said 3 million. And it's going to get really bad. Really bad it
actually had. Oh, it actually had me freaking out a little
bit. And I consider myself a very rational person. But I went
back and listened to Adams episode. And luckily he plugged
the show that plugging the show helps works, even though when
Adam was talking about people getting rings and nice things so
it was a little weird at the time, but I'll check it out. And
ever since I haven't missed an episode. Yeah, I can see how by
not listening to the show and only watching the M five M I
could have easily been one of those people double masked up
driving around in my car by myself and with my fifth jab by
now. But I just wanted to express my sincere appreciation
for both you during that time and today for keeping us sane
for two to three $3.33 I'm
Adam Curry: gonna give him a deducing because didn't ask for
it. But it's the first donation so
Unknown: you've been de Deus. I'll do the next
Adam Curry: to him. Because Earl Christopher in Marshfield,
Wisconsin out of Wisconsin today for some reason. I've always
Wisconsin clip coming up later. The huh Misko why you won't be
disappointed. Says No jingles no karma 333 33 Thank you also 333
dot 33 from Josh Konings acre Kooning's Ekor which will be
Konings acre I guess in Dutch but he's not from Dutch land
he's from packet South Carolina do i pronounce it that way?
Packet packet a packet it in the morning idea there in the
morning Adam and John for many months I've been a faithful
listener but a douchebag. With this donation of 333 33 offer V
for B for the hours of information and amusement you
offer me each week. I appreciate your perspective and enjoy your
back and forth but my favorite part is still Adams delivery of
your award winning Gitmo nation media assassination. If I might
ask my ask for three things one detachment if
Unknown: you've been de deuced
Adam Curry: was really easy to I want to jobs karma for my
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John C Dvorak: My last can of polar? Eileen seltzer since you
Adam Curry: never asked. I'm drinking a Waterloo watermelon.
Huh? How is it? I don't taste any watermelon at all. Could you
please give me my favorite jingle rub Eliza thank you for
your courage. Josh Konings zikr in piglet South Carolina
Unknown: in the standby 333 33 Eliezer our
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John C Dvorak: De Fuca zotoh Our buddy in Gladstone, Missouri,
Dave and oh, they do go everywhere.
Adam Curry: Duke of America's heartland and the Arabian
Peninsula.
John C Dvorak: Happy 16 116 years getting in before the mad
rush. Here's hoping is a good donation spree to keep you all
in the chatter. Please give my pop a birthday shout out he's on
the list and a healthy healthy dose of South Carolina scream
karma. Keep on keeping in.
Adam Curry: Dave scre Oh, South Oh, hold on a second. I didn't
have that one lined up five. Yes, we have it here. You've got
now this next one, I recognize the name and I don't see a note
but I know that the note was posted to my timeline. On no
agenda social. I do want to pull this up for a second because
it's from Jason rich. And he's a member of the beef initiative on
a second let me see if I could find Yeah, and it was his first
time donating so I don't know how we maybe thought by posting
it on the on the origin the social that it Well, some
John C Dvorak: people I've seen people do that. I have no idea
why they're doing that. Well,
Adam Curry: he's you know, it's his first time so now I guess.
Oh, we go. Jason rich just donate for the first time. It
was great to sit on the porch. And by the way, what did he
donate? What was his amount here? 33333. It was great to sit
on the porch with you and slim at White Oak pastures. That was
Georgia when we actually did the show from there. Thanks for
everything you've done for the beef initiative for anyone in
Colorado looking for grass fed and finished beef. We are the
hookup they can find us on Twitter at Jason rich WR ich
this Monday the 16th will will be my 45th trip around the sun.
My wife and I just purchased the neighboring ranch and are fixing
it up for Airbnb and wedding or conference venue. Yeah, all
right. So I gotta put Jason rich on the on the Birthday Calendar
cause he's not there. Well, thank you very much brother. It
was Believe me it was a lot of fun hanging out with you there
as well. And I'll give you a DD
Unknown: D deuced.
John C Dvorak: Give me the put some flank stakes aside, though
game Cheryl Wetzel in Pineville Wyoming 33333 She sent an actual
physical note and check in and you can tell because
Adam Curry: Yep, makes no no.
John C Dvorak: Oh Jensen pintail, Wyoming happy 16 years
loving to show thank you for highlighting the absurdity of
the world that we now live in. So many discussions are so sad
but your voice has helped to lighten the burden of the
insanity. I happen to have some knowledge of rapid test kits and
it is beyond shocking. Beyond Shocking. Shocking, that it is
now okay to willy nilly extended an expiration date without going
back to the FDA to prove that it gets still works absurd. Since I
do not believe that Cove to even exist These kits are most
certainly crap. Even before expert exploration. I would dare
say they are designed to be designed to be an accurate Yes,
I suppose as long as the internal control is working, the
test must be right. Right. The promotion is that these kits
work best on the fourth day is genius. Because of the dingbats
that I know, most of which are no better good. We'll test all
four days because the primary symptoms for COVID is now I
don't feel right.
Adam Curry: My nose is running.
John C Dvorak: The kiss must be flying off the shelves. Final
note that recently a colleague announced that she was COVID
positive at just after her recent flu shot. Isn't that
interesting? She didn't have any symptoms other than fatigue, you
know? She just didn't feel right. She is waiting for PCR
confirmation can't do good work. Good. Thank you for your courage
Dame Cheryl cowgirl of the Wind River Range wa oming does she
want any? She wants the F 35 Scream? Oh, she also
Adam Curry: wants the F 35 scream Oh, one second. Sounds
like you got COVID
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't feel right.
Unknown: Karma.
Adam Curry: Nothing is a winner. That's a winner. Jennifer Davies
is in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. And she also has a note which he
sent in and I have that note here. And Hi, John and Adam.
This executive producer donation is in honor of my smokin hot
husband Oh switcheroo Jonathan's 50th birthday on October 16.
He's been listening to your show for a long time. caps. And I
figured it was time to make an honest podcast listeners out of
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around the sun than an executive producer credit for the best
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Adam Curry: That is very cool. It's a great birthday cake. You
should also probably just give them a flame thrower or
something like that. It's also cool 50 year old guys like that.
Jonathan is a hard working man, faithful husband and amazing dad
to our for human resources. He hit me in the mouth a few years
ago, and I have to be honest, at first, I thought it was getting
corrupted by the show. Wow, was the marriage on the rocks. But
when I actually started listening, my eyes were opened
and my amygdala expanded. I'll always be grateful. Thanks for
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That's true. Whereas it's worthy. It's true ladies. And we
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John C Dvorak: Because it's gone out of favor.
Adam Curry: It's true. I got Donald Trump it's true. What is
John C Dvorak: run into a number of people who said that they
couldn't listen to the show because they felt it was
corrupting them.
Adam Curry: Really? Really now? Yeah. corrupting them in what
way? I don't know.
I can't find this anymore. What is this? It's true. That's not
the right one. Where's the ladies? It's true. Oh, it's not
it's true. It's That's true. That's true. See? They messed me
up there you go. There you go. Yes, I got you ladies right
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John C Dvorak: ESP ICT All right, there you go. And I'm
gonna go to our Associate Executive Producer Ryan de
Blasio in Fishers Indiana. To 2222 A row of ducks. From the
artwork to the end of the show mixes and everything in between.
Show 1598 was superb. Thank you, Ryan de Aza, Zo.
Adam Curry: Anna, you're welcome. Anonymous is an
Amsterdam with a row of ducks. two to two. Hi, John Adams has
been a while since I donated so here take my money. I'm a
painter from Amsterdam who likes to sneak his politics into his
paintings. Whoa. Ooh, I got Oh, he was gonna
John C Dvorak: look him up. I didn't. He has been he's
anonymous in he can't read the name of his website because he's
not anonymous anymore. So we can't plug his stuff.
Adam Curry: Well, really, because it's just an Instagram.
It doesn't doesn't have his name on there.
John C Dvorak: Well, it's up to you if you want to violate his
desires to be anonymous. And he says sometimes I know use it
into notes. So
Adam Curry: now I'm conflicted. Some Well you tell me tell me if
it's worth showing first. Sometimes the show inspires me
for a painting title like the green leap forward. Thanks for
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Adam Curry: out. Oh, I'm checking. Oh,
John C Dvorak: this is cool. See you on his website.
Adam Curry: Yeah. On the on his Insta. On his gram. Yeah, I can
see what he's doing here. Oh, it's very, very, very different.
It's kind of cool. Kind of cool. All right.
John C Dvorak: You got to say good.
Adam Curry: I think so. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I'd hang it on my
wall. Not the one with the devil's horns. But the other
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John C Dvorak: yeah. James Shea's up. Definitely. He's in
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Adam Curry: Thank you all very much. All of you, our exec or
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John C Dvorak: No, I'm keeping the other one alive for a year.
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John C Dvorak: Why don't you.org I can take do anything I want. I
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Adam Curry: Like like find the password. I know what's going
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And I've talked to pay pal about this because we now have an
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Adam Curry: Or they say like, Hey, what's this weird donation?
Are you guys terrorists?
John C Dvorak: Now they never do they have done that. Oh, and so
the guy calls and I said, you know, and he says, Well, I don't
know what we need, because he would they have programs, you
know what get you on this great deal. It works. Yeah. So I said,
Well, you know, we don't need that. Okay, well, I explained
the business model and everything to the guy and I
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certainly, you know, it's not really my job to do this. But he
says I'll give it a shot and see if I can get it done. Which is
to move the the legacy account all the people over to the
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Adam Curry: No, they can't do that. They're gonna try, they
can see, you know, a friend of mine lost the email that he had
his ex account registered to when it was still Twitter. That
email address went away and they cannot reset your password. If
you don't if you don't believe what they can't do. It's just
not possible. He was lucky enough to buy the domain back
and set up an email address to get it back. But it's it's
impossible. It's crazy. It's unbelievable what they can't do
what they can't do. Thank you all execs and Associate
Executive producers. We have some meetups we've got I think
we have a 92 nice things coming up. We got some birthdays and
John will take us through the 50s with people who came in and
just this week.
John C Dvorak: Phil Barnett starts us off in Brentwood,
Tennessee 15999 Sir Gregory in Cincinnati, Ohio 12121. Sir
Jonathan in St. Louis, Missouri 1010 170 threes que es zero IHT
70 threes, Julia Saavedra in Madison Heights Virginia. 100.
Lucas Williams and Roswell guy in Roswell. I think we have a
couple of people we
Adam Curry: got we got goodies from Roswell. I got a flying
saucer. Do
John C Dvorak: you ever get the driver's license from the alien
driver's license, dude? Sure. Did. I use it? I use it all Last
time I gave it I was at the bank and to do a no me No.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And they accepted it. No.
John C Dvorak: But they get the biggest kick out image. First
day look at it like it's real. That's hilarious. They look at
it and they go and they look and they have a big funnel look for
what and then they figure out it's a big joke. So
Adam Curry: so and so when you go to the bank, which is a small
little bank, and you know, they're all sitting there. Tears
that old queued again. Borax coming in with checks.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, pretty much. But just so I throw this
I've used it a couple of times and he's always gets a chuckle.
Lucas Williams in Roswell, New Mexico comes with 100 Clara,
Sierra Clara, Sierra, Sierra, and Charlotte, North Carolina
this year Morris 100 Happy birthday to her talented, smokin
hot boyfriend. There we go. Got him on the list? Yes
Adam Curry: Are SCOBY sure he's been around. So Scott and
John C Dvorak: Clayton, California 100 Nisa de douching.
Unknown: You've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: Stephen Shevlin. And Southampton Massachusetts.
Nein. Nein, nein, nein. Kevin McLaughlin. There he is.
Concord, North Carolina. Lover American boobs. Duke of Luna 808
Breast Cancer Awareness save the twins save the trends. Gary
blatten Wayne Pennsylvania 777. David Jarman in North Turramurra
New South Wales Australia 75 Katyn Clifford. Bridge Ontario,
Canada 69 and 69 I got hairy legs because what he says sure
did. Kevin McLaughlin in Concord North Carolina 606 Again, Breast
Cancer Awareness Month save the coconuts. Christopher dektor in
it 5678. Varun it and Dane and the dame of Puget Sound and some
Manish buy for five forget a birthday call out it's on the
list. Sir subterranean Shizen in Saskatoon at the Paris of Canada
30 to 69. We put a birthday biscuit because the birthday
here at the end. He also
Adam Curry: also wanted a posthumous mothership boarding
pass for his friend Tanya's next journey. All right, that's
virtual and you got it.
John C Dvorak: John Kraddick in Stafford, Virginia 52 Sir
Kelsey, and he's on a birthday list, sir recalcitrant crazy
Steve in Santa Rosa. 5150 get John out of the house meet up
coming up on October 21. And you'll be there. I will. I'll be
there. It'll be our it'll be the prelude to the 16th anniversary
show. And if you're going to donate to the show, bring an
envelope. Christopher Myers in Dallas Texas 51 If you can even
see me in this dark bar. Will Sherman in spring Texas 5033
Adam Curry: needs a D Do
Unknown: you have bad deed deuced
John C Dvorak: economic sir. barons are economic hitman and
Tomball, Texas 5001. And now we got the $50 donors and I'll wrap
this up with starting with Jared yaw in Nashville, Tennessee real
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Virginia and that's a birthday Anna de douching.
Unknown: You've been de deuced
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Unknown: formula is this. We go out we had people in the mouth
Adam Curry: and we've got a list that we will work through right
now Baron and dame of Puget Sound was shut Tim White a happy
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Unknown: Hey, no agenda nation. This is Jeff sir goatee from
Fisher of the Space Coast here at a impromptu meet up and
Ellen's wine room here in Sanford Florida.
This is Tristan you You think keeper, love it. Hey, this is LM
from Ellen's wine room in Sanford, Florida. I just learned
about no agenda and Jeff and John. Awesome. Love it.
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Adam Curry: All right. Oh Vito will never remember. But thank
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day you're not
Unknown: at a meetup. You should think of the old Dutch saying so
Noblesville tucked in on his Oh,
wow. So yeah, something else
we're arguing about who the Three Musketeers were Jim from
Denver filling in for Rasputin in the morning.
This is Sir our I think I'm maybe dark Canyon. It's not the
bad guy.
All right. Love is lit. Come on out.
Mile High meetups and we're out
Adam Curry: and that was not even touch when he spoke that
was funny. I liked it. Right now as we speak there is a meetup
underway at Sol mill in Albuquerque New Mexico. That's
sir Jeff was out there. I told you go go that meet up ask him
about his scars. Hopefully he'll have report for us. Also today
casting for Gaston kicked off at two o'clock and Charleston South
Carolina. That's a Gaston Manor. Dame Jennifer organizing you
know there's going to be Drayton Manor Gaston you know there's
gonna be an awesome meet up report from that one. Especially
from Dame Jennifer. Dave Jennifer just so much good
stuff. We have the spooky October meetup, which kicks off
just started at prodigy Burger Bar in Indianapolis, Indiana.
them tomorrow Oh Monday night bowling night in the Ozarks
enterprise Park Lane Springfield, Missouri seven
o'clock on Thursday. Our next show day North Idaho Sandy
brigade they've been meeting for years and years five o'clock at
Selkirk Abbey, and that's in Post Falls, Idaho. North Georgia
monthly six o'clock at Cherry Street brewing in Alpharetta,
Georgia on Thursday and finally Charlotte's thirsty Third
Thursday seven o'clock at Ed's tavern, Charlotte North Carolina
there's a ton of them the whole calendar is filling up all the
way through December no agenda meetups and we say connections
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Unknown: day days you won't be triggered you wouldn't be saying
is like
Adam Curry: no, I know I did my ISOs first last time so now you
have to start
John C Dvorak: you know I think you're right about this binary
nature this loneliness up.
Adam Curry: Oh, there's something come and maybe it's a
drug you think it's a drug? Maybe? Or?
John C Dvorak: I don't know they can do something that will be
Adam Curry: a new survey. How about a government run social
network? That's better for your health.
John C Dvorak: When it happens, we'll be the first one we'll
Adam Curry: know. We'll know. We'll know. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I have to. To one of his kind of funny I don't
know if it's a good enough showcase but it's funny is ISO
8010 80%
Unknown: of structures have been decimated.
John C Dvorak: So long, long 80% of structures have been
decimated just Yeah. Interesting. All right. Well, I
try this one dystopian nightmare. Guess Tolkien
Adam Curry: nightmare. I like it nothing like a good Amy I so let
me see what
John C Dvorak: I've got. She's got vocal fry in it too. I get
bonus vocal fry. It is bonus
Adam Curry: Tolkien nightmare. Yeah, yeah, it's a bonus. It's a
bonus. Let's see what I got. The things I do for this show. is
too long is too long.
Unknown: It's funny though.
It feels wrong but it's actually right.
Adam Curry: And then my favorite here's the ringer. I swallowed a
bug Come on.
John C Dvorak: You know it's really good. dystopian
nightmare, like reflects the show. Yeah. But I would go with
that. But if you want to use it's up to you, you just use
your choice are you because I know you love I swallowed a bug.
Adam Curry: I'm gonna I'm gonna look at the troll room. Alright
troll room. Here we go first one I swallowed up. And the second
Unknown: limit trolls. Tolkien nightmare.
John C Dvorak: They're going to pick the bug because the troll
room now
Adam Curry: I get bug bug bug. Bug bug bug Amy bug. Yes AMI AMI
AMI bug bug bug. Bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug? Nightmare
bug? Wow, no toss it. Let's do that. I'm gonna do dystopian
nightmare. I'm with you. It's it. It's reflects the show that
can always play the bug.
John C Dvorak: How about this?
Adam Curry: No, don't make me combo it.
John C Dvorak: I swallowed a bug followed by Nestopia. Now
Adam Curry: it has to be three seconds or less. That is the
rule. That's the rule. That's the rule. But because I give you
that I will get the next clip. Did you know In the world of
podcasting that Rob Lowe has a podcast
John C Dvorak: course why would I know? I don't know that.
There's no way I would know that. I didn't know it
Adam Curry: either. Rob Lowe has a podcast. It's pretty
interesting. He had Arnold Schwarzenegger on his podcast.
And this is a clip that's been doing the rounds because it's
quite entertaining.
Unknown: Okay, let me ask you this. And I asked people this
all the time. David Dreier, good friend of ours. Yes. And good
man. served for many, many, many years. He used to have the
greatest what makes me a Republican and he had I think
four or five things I think was in no particular strong
military, low taxes, less government, more personal
freedoms. There might have been one a COVID but it makes sense
to know strong law enforcement strong law on the person and
then I'd like to know what the I was asked Democrats what it
means to be a Democrat in that way and I think whatever anybody
would say is boy that what this what would they say
to this? What's that room you sit on your city? Sob about
ruining the cities? You know, the fuck up every city in
America? That's what seems to be the theme right now. Why is
that? I have no idea. I
Adam Curry: thought that was dynamite. is funny. You don't
hear Arnold dropped the F bomb. Of course. He said screw your
freedom. We haven't forgotten that you don't get a pass. You
don't get a pass because you're funny here Arnold. But that was
funny. I thought that was pretty good.
John C Dvorak: I want to give ourselves some kudos for picking
up on something somebody accidentally said. And here's
the kudos clip. Second carrier group is on its way and
Secretary
Unknown: of Defense Lloyd Austin says the US will send a second
carrier group will west as Dwight D. Eisenhower to the
eastern Mediterranean to help to tour the widening of the war
between Israel and Hamas. This carrier joins the Gerald R Ford
Carrier Strike Group which arrived earlier this week.
Adam Curry: You know, all the vets are all worried about was
it the Phoenix that Israel attacked?
John C Dvorak: Liberty back in the day? No, it was at Liberty
at Liberty, the USS Liberty that the Israelis killed a bunch of
American soldiers. They're covered guys. Yeah.
Adam Curry: The Libya. Yeah. They're all worried about it.
Like this is not good. This is very dangerous.
John C Dvorak: Well, they still don't trust anybody after that
Liberty experience. And that thing is still been covered up.
It's it's been suppressed to this day.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yes. Yes. Well, it's on the wiki but still
kind of not know. Alright, since we're doing kudos, bow just give
kudos to myself for calling this one a long time ago.
Unknown: The president is expected to arrive later this
afternoon. We know among the topics we'll be discussing is
the Mid Atlantic hydrogen hub, which the White House expects
we'll bring about 40,000 jobs to our region. Take a look at this.
Here's what we are expecting. You know, the President will be
here with the energy secretary. They're announcing seven
regional clean hydrogen hubs that were selected to receive $7
billion in funding to accelerate the domestic market for low cost
clean hydrogen. According to the White House hydrogen, which is a
clean fuel helps the US reduce emissions while creating jobs
and building healthier communities. Now we know that
mid atlantic hub will be in Pennsylvania, New Jersey and
Delaware again, creating 1000s of jobs. We will have the latest
on that announcement when it happens.
Adam Curry: Clean Energy clean hydrogen. This scam is here now.
Clean hydrogen $7 billion
John C Dvorak: for good news story. I didn't know this was
happening. You know they're throwing money at this 7
Adam Curry: billion. Yeah, that's a lot. $7 billion for
clean hydrogen. Crazy. All right. I promised the story
about Wisconsin.
Unknown: Now is time for our friends now. was initiated.
Adam Curry: Yes, trans Maoism continues just because there's
that we do have a war and it's covering up a lot and but we
still will stay on the stories that matter. This is a video
that is from Canadian Broadcasting Corporation kids
news, CBC kids news. Kids do kid's news and it is being used
in Wisconsin schools for fourth graders. It is animated kind of
like, no agenda animated, no agenda, that style a little,
little more purposeful. Both kids are brown. The mom looks
Asian, the dad looks Mexican or Latin X. The baby in the story
is white. So it's a very, it's a very polarizing visuals. And we
can stop it anytime you want. But I think it's worth listening
to the entire thing again, this is for children's CBC kids news.
You can find it right there on YouTube. They broadcast it on
television, and now in Wisconsin schools for fourth graders.
Unknown: Oh,
Hi, baby. Are you a boy or girl? Funny you should ask Syd. One of
the first things they check when a new baby is born is what kind
of body parts they have. They do that to determine a baby sex.
Most of the time, it's easy to determine. And sometimes it's
more complicated. This one has a penis. Boy, this one has a
vulva. It's girls.
Adam Curry: I gotta stop it right there. Why do they use
vulva instead of vagina? What is the reasoning behind that?
John C Dvorak: Well that now that you stopped it because I
would have said well I'm gonna dumb thing to say. I have to.
I'm glad you stopped it because now we have to discuss this.
Yes. Here's the reason there's these things are not done
without
Adam Curry: cola troll room. Not Volvo, Volvo Volvo I love being
childish. 15 forever, right? But why? Why? Why? Why?
John C Dvorak: The vulva is the global term that describes all
of the structures that make the female external genitalia. The
components of the vulva, or the mons pubis, labia majora, labia,
minerale, clitoris, okay, this bigger vulva, Deborah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whole bunch of
stuff and the and the vaginal opening. So this is a new one
that they're trying to push.
Adam Curry: It's only the external stuff. It's only the
stuff you can see on the outside what it
John C Dvorak: says. Interesting. Yeah, just the
external.
Unknown: It's more complicated. This one has a penis. Boy, this
one has a MOBA girl. Congratulations. Oh, let's hit
the brakes. People. The way your body looks on the outside is
only part of the story. One, stay with me gang. This is
important. I live. Your six refers to your physical body
parts, remember, but there is also something called Gender,
which is how you feel inside your body and who you know
yourself to be and your gender. How you feel on the inside.
doesn't always match the sex you recalled when you were born.
Okay, let's say you were born with a penis and you feel like a
boy inside. In that case, your sex and your gender match? Well,
what if you were born with a penis? And you know your girl
inside? It's not a boy, then your sex and your gender don't
match? Wait, what's those know your girl inside mean anyway?
Does that mean you have to love pink things and princesses?
Nope. Sometimes people refer to things as girl things and boy
things but this is just how people sometimes classify
things, usually to make it easier to sell stuff to kids and
their parents.
Adam Curry: So so the reason why we call boys boys and girls
Girls is for people to ease make it easier to sell stuff. That's
an interesting take.
John C Dvorak: It's just how does that work in a communist
country? Or, or tribal organization where this was
capitalism doesn't apply if there's no capital. So are they
saying that? I'm just guessing here? Are they saying that? It
this is the problem? Capitalism is causing this issue? Because
if there was no capitalism, you wouldn't have this? Yeah. Then
then we wouldn't have confusion if there's no capitalism.
Correct. I don't see where that's going.
Unknown: Close toys and games are for everyone. You don't have
to be a boy or a girl to like a certain thing. Said, has anyone
ever told you that you shouldn't say with something or wear
something because you're a boy will? Yes. The body parts you
were born with don't always dictate who you are, how you
feel or what you like to play with. That's such a relief
gender, how you feel? tells you who you are. And there are a
whole bunch of possibilities. Figuring out what feels right
for you is just part of growing up. Fine little cutie. You might
want to change that diaper sooner than later.
Adam Curry: Yeah, there you go. Hello, Canada. Good work. Good
work up there. And of course that that results and leads to
new stories like this to Italy
Unknown: now where a whole bunch of transgender men are entering
the miss Italy pageant after a pageant rep said transgender
women can't compete. Alright, let me lay this out for you.
Here. It's a little complicated. The organizer of the miss Italy
pageant said the pageant only allows people who were assigned
a female gender at birth to be in the competition, meaning
transgender women, men who became women would be excluded.
One transgender man named Frederico saw this and thought,
Well, hey, I was born female. So he decided to enter the pageant
under his birth name Frederica, even though he identifies as a
man now, that moment, then turned into a movement. One
LGBTQ group shared his entry on Facebook, encouraging other
transgender men to apply. And now more than 100 trans men have
entered the pageant, with some even being called to the next
stage of the competition.
Adam Curry: Jesus come quickly, this world what I find
fascinating is that no point does anyone state the obvious
that the whole idea of beauty contests is is crazy. No, no,
they don't see they don't see that.
John C Dvorak: Well, that used to be the thing. Yeah, they use
all your beauty competitions. And I mean, I'm sure you
remember, like 25 years ago? I sure do. Let's say everyone's
bitching and moaning about beauty contest. And we used to
do a review of all of them on this show me you know, recently.
Oh, yes. Yeah. Real. Yeah, we stopped doing it. Yeah. And the
main complaints, objectified women and a lot of out of out of
a bag. And then that died down for some unknown reason. Now we
got this. Yeah.
Adam Curry: It's, the whole thing is sad. Alright, I have a
John C Dvorak: two parter. It says you're on the transgender
thing that's played by visiting me dragging along this tick tock
clip is called tock tock tick, tock. transphobia, you have to
look it up from the last couple of shows. Oh, hold
Adam Curry: on. Talk, yes, I got it.
Unknown: If you are told that something you're doing is
transphobic. It is not your job to try to prove that it's not,
you are going to mess up. It is guaranteed. If you are told
information and you immediately reject and go, nope, that
doesn't fit my view of what transmits means you're not going
to be able to show up as an ally, because all you're worried
about is what you think and you feel abundant experience that's
not yours, it's going to be uncomfortable, it's going to be
confusing. And it's going to mean that you are going to have
to evaluate how gender is seeped into society, how it has
affected and shaped your life, how sis heteronormativity has
affected your life. And just because we're existing in front
of you does not mean that you get to ask or say whatever you
want. And that's supposed to be taken as a compliment. Questions
can be transphobic, compliments can be transphobic. And so
that's where it comes in, where a lot of the work with being an
ally, actually has to do with our own individual reflections
on how transphobic society has shaped the way that we think and
live and treat people. We don't need allies who are trying to
prove how good they are or who were asking for a pat on the
back or who are trying to seem nice, or who are worried about
what they look like. We need allies who are willing to stand
up for trans people and learn how to do that the
best that they can.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, by shutting up.
Adam Curry: You know, I gotta mention this. Do you remember
the podcast conference that I went to Podcast Movement? And I
do and they wanted? They wanted me on a panel. I said Who else?
Oh, it's this one, this one. And but you know, we can't have just
all white guys on the panel. So we invited this woman who knows
nothing about the topic because she's bipoc and that woman
because she's American descendants, but they didn't
know anything about the topic. And if they're not appropriate
for this topic here, we can't have four white guys on the
panel. I said, Well, you know what, you can have three because
I'm out. I'm not a part of this. So those very same guys, one of
them had, like a a, like a mini podcast conference, sold tickets
to it. It was in in Europe and Um, they got canceled. I mean,
they the events still went on but some black lesbians, who, as
it was described to me started calling up speakers they had
contracted and saying, there's no there's not enough black
people on this stage, not enough LGBTQ, you shouldn't go there.
And these were people who work for companies guess what, about
10% had to cancel. So the very people who are trying to protect
the, you know, the, the sensitivities of LGBTQ bipod
people were now being cancelled by those very same people.
They're great. What this what they never understand. It's like
it's going to be used against you. So you might as well take a
stand now, because it's going to come back to bite you in the ass
eventually. My final two Mom, I have a funny one. But on my
final two clips are COVID. Related, specifically,
vaccination, adverse events. Dr. Drew, who I we've played Dr.
Drew throughout the COVID period, the COVID years. I think
we both trust him. He's not always been in line with our
thinking we still have always played his his opinions because
he is a doctor. Well, boy, he had there's a new study out that
he read and he's kind of upset about it
Unknown: because the article came out this week in
circulation, which is a very fine high end. A cardiology
journal is called circulation. I've been throwing I've been
sending it around to people. And it showed it took my breath
away. I was I was shocked at how how what an indictment it was.
It showed that myocarditis was not that common and not that
uncommon in young males. Certainly more common than
severe COVID in that group, okay? So myocarditis more common
than severe COVID. So you're putting people at risk and
taking away little problems, okay? All right, the and then
you've heard all this it just myocarditis, as you might use it
for itself limited somebody myocarditis throughout my career
as a medical emergency. And now this article showed for the
first time that about half of the kids, these are adolescent
males who got myocarditis are going to have lifelong cardiac
dysfunction, which means a significant percentage are going
to end up in heart failure, hopefully at an advanced age,
but if not, on the transplant list.
Adam Curry: So this comes the very same week that the Nobel
Prize for let me see what the actual title is. Physiology and
Medicine is given to the inventors of mRNA. Yeah. And so
there's a Chinese journalist at this, this little event, asks a
question about long term effects of mRNA. I'm going to tell you
what she said, because she's a little difficult to hear, then
we will hear the answer from the first scientists receiving this
Nobel Prize. And then the second one
Unknown: was AC sizing media from China, and waste the mRNA.
We don't know the long term effect yet. So do we have any
concern over that?
Record? Would you like to respond to that question?
Yes, of course, you know, mRNA vaccines have only been given
for a certain amount of time, which begs the question, having
said that, of course, the mRNA vaccine that is given is very
transient, and the fact that 13 billion people have gotten the
virus, vaccine virus. And oops, I mean, the the amount of side
effects noted today, it is extremely limited. So I don't
think it's a it's a major concern.
Adam Curry: So first, this guy gaffes, it says, Oh, 13 billion
people have been known. What do you say he's having with him
crazy amounts have been given. I mean, given the virus, I mean,
virus, I mean, the vaccine, let's ask the other guy. And
when asked to that, or that's fine. Oh, yes. I think that's
yeah, say so.
Unknown: Well, it can't be integrated into the nucleus into
the net. And that's, you know, a safety precaution. The adverse
effects, that's been noted is mostly mild. My court it is
apparent myocarditis, mainly affecting young males. But that
normally resolves without any short term effects.
Adam Curry: Oh. So these guys are getting a Nobel Peace Prize
while the tonale a Nobel Prize. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Thank you for correcting me. The outrage is still there. They're
getting a Nobel Prize for this technology and they sit there
stone cold face and as just limited. It resolves itself well
The top publication says this is horrible. And Dr. Drew says this
is you're going to be in the transplant list. What is wrong
with the world?
John C Dvorak: But there seems to be a disconnect between
something and something. And I think one of those symptoms is
money.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Unfortunately for the love of
money is the root of all evil does seem to hold true. Unless
you've got something,
John C Dvorak: let me take one quick look and see if there's
anything that's is I got one kind of an odd ball clip, which
maybe is worth playing. Gotta military gotta synced Biden,
succinct comments on NPR is always a good way to go out. And
then I have a weird Mexican education deal, which is like
what
Adam Curry: what? Well, you tell me which one you want.
John C Dvorak: I would say this play the weird Mexican
educational deal. And you tell me what's going on here.
Unknown: under a new law low income mesco Mexican residents
living near the California border can now go to some state
community colleges at in state tuition levels. The law creates
a pilot program for some Mexicans who want to attend
certain community colleges in Southern California and we'll
run through 2029. The law is designed to help low income
Mexicans who live within 45 miles of the California border
to get an education and prepare for jobs. Under the new program
students would pay $46 A unit in state as opposed to $307 a unit
out of state. That's according to a legislative analysis.
Similar tuition programs are available at least 24 states
including Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico.
John C Dvorak: Due to literally Mexicans, New Mexico.
Adam Curry: I don't know what's going on. And meanwhile, do you
know what the most emailed clip is that I've received this week?
Can you even it's 12 I don't want to get 12 seconds of it.
It's a little longer but can you just imagine what people are
asking me as an audio expert?
John C Dvorak: Oh, they're asking you this AI are asking if
it's to be edited. Yep.
Adam Curry: And it's the same clip. Do dude, listen to this?
Did AOC fart on camera
Unknown: and to ensure that horrors do not happen in the
names of victims who do not want their tragedy used to justify
further violence and injustice?
Adam Curry: Wow, she farted on camera. This is the number one
email clip
John C Dvorak: guess what everyone cares about
Adam Curry: them this is why we're never going to be rich.
Ever, ever, ever ever. All right. We got a little bit of
Iran stuffs ended up with we got Billy Bones Billy Bones with a
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John C Dvorak: And from Northern Silicon Valley. I'm John
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John C Dvorak: this is the stay safe medley one of the I think
MSNBC host and this is what she does.
Unknown: Thank you so much for being here tonight. And please
stay safe
John C Dvorak: because it was just a matter of course and
again I'm reminded of people's reminding people to
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