John C Dvorak: Now we know I just said now don't worry about
it. Adam curry,
Adam Curry: John C. Dvorak. Thursday, September 28 2023.
This is your award winning combination media assassination
episode 1594. This
Unknown: is no agenda,
Adam Curry: dodging the large language models and broadcasting
live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in Meridian
number six in the morning, everybody.
John C Dvorak: I'm Adam curry, from Northern Silicon Valley
where we've noticed they've gotten nuts in Canada. I'm John
C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: This was this is the best the best thing that could
have happened.
John C Dvorak: Hey, you know, candidate wants to get more
coverage on our show.
Adam Curry: They'll do anything. There's it's absolutely the
best. And we saw this happen. I keep I kept getting on notes
from people. I'm like, well, we don't really have any reports.
After that, because we deconstruct media. I'll just
kick this. This off with two short ones from ABC. So here's
here's earlier in the week, also in
Unknown: Canada, an uproar after a former Nazi got a standing
ovation in the Canadian Parliament. It all started when
Ukraine's president spoke to lawmakers then the Speaker of
the House praised a 98 year old Ukrainian man who once served in
a Nazi unit accused of genocide. The man's past had apparently
not been vetted the speaker apologize but is facing calls to
resign. And then the next report there's new fallout after a
former Nazi was invited to the Canadian Parliament and got a
standing ovation. It happened while Ukraine's president was
visiting the Speaker of the House who invited the 98 year
old former Nazi from Ukraine has now resigned for not properly
vetting that guest.
John C Dvorak: Though I have I have the poignant clips,
including three kind of chronological clips because
Trudeau said one thing and it came out and said another thing
and then he came into the front of the house. But what was wrong
with that report? And it was that classic example of
mishandled. He got to standing ovations, not one
Adam Curry: who will get it Can I just say one thing? That whole
parliament, everybody there should just be wiped away.
They're all dumb. How dumb are these people? Don't you first of
all, it's not the Russians. It was the Soviets. They're dumb.
They're completely brainwashed and stupid.
John C Dvorak: As I pointed out in the newsletter, and one of
the photos, yes, these people giving the standing ovation,
including a members of the military, high ranking members
of the military that were sitting next to this guy
clapping away like like, like train seals.
Adam Curry: I mean, but literally, pans above their
head, you know, like, oh, yeah, yeah, F Russia, F. Putin. Hello,
dummies? Are they dumb? And I think you saw the speaker
hesitate for a second he had like this. This little. I think
he realized when he when he was reading us, fought against the
Russians. That you could just see something in his brain
John C Dvorak: I have that I have. All right. I'll let you I
don't I didn't notice that. I thought he was just robotically
reading the rules. And by the way, before we play any of these
clips, I've got four of them. Oh, I think he was set up.
There's no doubt in my mind that this whole thing was a setup to
humiliate a Liberal Party.
Adam Curry: Well, that worked. And they did some humiliation of
their own later.
John C Dvorak: Well, they're all parties that when they stood up
and clapped the loudest, the guy who is the the Speaker of the
House, not the speaker, but the head of the opposition is just
all in on this war. You can tell when you hear him I've got I got
a clip of him.
Adam Curry: That's not a bad theory that you have there that
this was set up not not to get rid of the speaker per se but to
embarrass the the liberals in
John C Dvorak: embarrassed both parties but embarrassed,
embarrassed the Government of Canada. Yes. Yes. And how did it
come to be? We've never got a full explanation supposedly. So
speakers had a friend and somebody suggested it. This
sounds like
Adam Curry: it started with no, I noticed him in the gallery.
Oh, boy. Look, there's my guy. Nine years old Nazi hunter. I
mean, oops.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so we start with this is the truth as to how
a Trudeau House Speaker is the trigger. This is the speech that
highlighted him and got him. Two rounds of standing ovations. We
have
Unknown: here in the chamber today, Ukrainian Canadians,
Ukrainian Canadian world veteran from the Second World War who
fought the Ukrainian independence against the
Russians and continues to support Troops today, even at
his age of 98.
Yeah, for 18 year old Canadian hero, and we thank him for all
his service. Thank you
Adam Curry: so that was true doe.
John C Dvorak: No, no, no, that was the Speaker of the House.
Okay.
Adam Curry: I was confused. Oh,
John C Dvorak: sound I know he sounds like him. Yeah, it could
have been. I mean, the voice is almost identical. But no, that
was not Trudeau. So here's Trudeau right after this happens
is the first thing Trudeau does when he freaks out. And this is
this is Trudeau. Nazi apology.
Unknown: Obviously, it's extremely upsetting that this
happened. The speaker speaker has acknowledged this mistake,
and as apologized that this is something that is deeply
embarrassing to the Parliament of Canada and by extension to
all Canadians. I think particularly of Jewish MPs, and
all members of the Jewish community across the country are
celebrating or commemorating Yom Kippur today. I think it's going
to be really important that all of us push back against Russian
propaganda, Russian disinformation and continue our
steadfast and unequivocal support for Ukraine, as we did
last week, with announcing further measures to stand with
Ukraine in Russia's illegal war against it.
Adam Curry: Hey, happy Yom Kippur everybody and Russia bad.
John C Dvorak: Had that with the devil in the end with the Russia
disinformation?
Adam Curry: That's how it ended? Yeah.
John C Dvorak: You Yeah. Right. Well, so then he has to
backtrack on that. Because he got a bunch of flack from before
he goes in front of Parliament. We have producer Nicholas sent
me this note with a timeline.
Adam Curry: Wait, Nick sends you stuff to
John C Dvorak: the Dizzy oh, these guys do this. They say
they're all bipolar.
Adam Curry: No, they send stuff to me. They send stuff to you. I
mean, we do have some of the same clips which people you
gotta be careful. If you send it to both of us, then send it
often doesn't get played at all right? But that's only if we're
both on the email. But they send it to you and send it to me
separately, then we actually both wind up with the same
clips. Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that. People did choose
one. All right. So
John C Dvorak: he goes on. He mentioned that a Polish
Ambassador made a plea for an apology from the government that
recognizes Polish grievances. And then I guess the rotor
resigned rotor resigned after this clip we just heard you
know, he says while he's still there, but then then he resigned
afterwards and after resigned. We got the second version of the
same apology by Trudeau. And this is Troodos Nazi revised
apology. In this case, what he did was he took in everybody who
felt aggrieved and even people who didn't feel aggrieved he put
them on this list I'm I'm sorry to you and you when you're when
you're when you
Unknown: in a few moments, I will address the house in front
of all Canadians in front of Jewish people here and around
the world, and Ukrainians to offer Parliament's unreserved
apologies for what happened on Friday. The speaker was solely
responsible for the invitation and recognition of this man, and
his wholly accepted that responsibility and stepped down.
This was a mistake that has deeply embarrassed Parliament,
and Canada. All of us who were in this House on Friday, regret
deeply having stood and clapped. Even though we did so unaware of
the context, it was a horrendous violation of the memory of the
millions of people who died in the Holocaust. And it was
deeply, deeply painful for Jewish people. It also hurt
Polish people, Roma people next to us LGBTQI plus people,
disabled people racialized people know many
Adam Curry: No, no, stop. No, no, this is edited. This is
edited. He did not say to spirit people, disabled people, did he?
John C Dvorak: Yes. No, not edited. Believe me.
Adam Curry: This is This is crazy. Let me hear this again.
Unknown: And it was deeply, deeply painful for Jewish
people. It also hurt Polish people, Roma people, to s LGBTQI
plus people, disabled people racialized people, and the many
millions who were targeted by the Nazi genocide.
Adam Curry: Nicolas, you're off my list. I can't believe you
gave that clip to John.
John C Dvorak: No, he didn't give me any clips.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. I'm sorry. All right. He's back on the
list. This is dynamite. In fact, I gotta give this to you right
away. I mean, if you told me that was Aya To believe the two
John C Dvorak: that's crazy. Even no nonsense
Adam Curry: going after two spirited people really? We had
two spirits back in the day.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, everything in between. Wow. So So then he
goes to Parliament.
Adam Curry: How about dwarfs? We should have had the dwarfs
John C Dvorak: you right because divorce would have been on the
list it gypsies gotta go back and redo this. You said Roma
Adam Curry: so well, you just said gypsies anyway, I'm sorry.
I'll be quiet now. That's crazy. What an idiot.
John C Dvorak: So then he goes to so the guy that headed the
opposition to who's Pierre Irish last name is. I had it written
down I put it it's on the other desk. But it's a it's an
interesting name. Poly poly poly a or something. Yeah. But the
poly. I think that Paul and so he condemns Trudeau and then
Trudeau comes in in doubt, you hear the apology, the official
apology in front of Parliament, and it's lame.
Unknown: It was the personal responsibility of the Prime
Minister to invite President Solinsky to the floor of this
House of Commons. It was his personal responsibility to make
sure it was a diplomatic success. It was his personal
responsibility to continue to lead the government that has the
security, intelligence and diplomatic agencies that could
have and should have vetted all individuals who were present and
recognized. Yet this Prime Minister allowed for a
monumental, unprecedented and global shame to unfold in this
chamber. Will he take personal responsibility for this shame
and personally apologize on behalf of himself.
Right Honorable Prime Minister.
On behalf of all of us in this house, I would like to present
apologies, place on Friday, and to President Solinsky and the
Ukrainian delegation for the position they were put in for
all of us who were present to have unknowingly recognized this
individual was a terrible mistake and a violation of the
memory of those who suffered grievously at the hands of the
Nazi regime.
Adam Curry: Oh, Canada,
John C Dvorak: I love you. So. So that was that and so we have
one more go around. This is obviously question time they do
this in England, they do it in Canada. And here he comes back
up and to say to ask, receiving clarified a little bit nothing,
he gets nothing. And I could have gone on longer with this.
But this will be the final clip because it's just the ends
pretty much ends here with Trudeau apologizing on behalf of
everybody not himself
Unknown: out of the leader of the official opposition.
Did the Prime Minister's national security, intelligence
or diplomatic officials that the names of the people that the
Prime Minister allowed within mere feet of President Solinsky?
Right Honorable Prime Minister.
Mr. Speaker, the privilege and responsibilities and rights of
parliamentarians are sacrosanct, and that the leader of the
opposition would be suggesting that any visitor to this house
should be vetted by the government of the day is
actually a grievous attack on the rights and privileges of
parliamentarians. The leader of the opposition or the speaker
anyone wants our intelligence agencies to vet any of their
guests. We would be more more than happy to do that in respect
of parliamentary rights.
Adam Curry: The Honorable leader the Official Opposition. Well,
there's one thing for sure, is this distracted from the former
Indian diplomat who claimed that true dose playing at the recent
G 20 meeting was full of cocaine. You hear
John C Dvorak: about this? No, I missed that way. So it obviously
did distract good work.
Adam Curry: Yeah, no, it totally distract from that there was one
thing that was fun. One of the Canadian liberals from the from
the Liberal Party, jumped up and suggested the following.
Unknown: I would like to ask for unanimous consent to adopt the
following motion, that notwithstanding any standing
orders, special order or usual practice of the house, the
recognition made by the Speaker of the House of an individual
present in the galleries. During the joint address to Parliament
by His Excellency, bloody Mirza Lenski struck from the appendix
of the House of Commons debates of Thursday, September 21 2023.
And from any house multimedia recording,
Adam Curry: they want it they want
John C Dvorak: erased by the way, this was semi scandalous
that she did this course it is.
Adam Curry: That's insane. Oh, we got to delete it, get rid of
it. Now what isn't happening? What should happen from this and
you know, the Simon Wiesenthal Center, of course they were all
over Twitter X. You know, like, Oh, this is criticism, say and
this is no good. I mean, I think that's where your setup was. But
they need to go a step further. Where's the AES off brigade?
This is the moment to bring it in. Hey, there's still a lot of
Nazi sentiment over there. There's there's people fighting
on behalf of the Ukrainian army who have swastikas tattooed on
their body and are very much in line with World War Two Nazis.
Yeah, that horse but who? Why isn't anyone picking that up?
John C Dvorak: Oh, slow down to the money. Well, my speaking of
you trying to do you on
Adam Curry: let's go to 60 minutes and talk about the
money.
Unknown: The US has spent just over $43 billion on military aid
to Ukraine since Russia invaded.
Adam Curry: I think it's more than that, isn't it? Was it was
that maybe just the military aid? And this
John C Dvorak: is yeah, this is a number that the real number is
over a trillion?
Adam Curry: A trillion? Yeah, really?
John C Dvorak: I believe it's I believe this.
Adam Curry: That's new to me. I've heard 150 billion I've
heard. But a trillion Nah, no, I
John C Dvorak: think is what I think. Yeah. With a T. Tank. I'm
pretty sure I could be I mean, it's not. It's not 1.3 billion.
It just got to be? No, if it's 1.3. Anything. It's
Adam Curry: not what point it's 100. And I understand to be 143
billion. She's saying 40 something billion. A trillion is
this 1000 billion? That's a lot. That's a lot
John C Dvorak: with the nutmeg. Point is, I think the point is,
it's a fluctuating number that nobody seems to have a handle
on. The point is, if somebody wants a handle on the number of
Rand Paul, yeah, they say now we know I just said now don't worry
about it.
Adam Curry: We got it. Well, hey, AI, check it out. Don't
worry, we're gonna figure it all out.
Unknown: That's equivalent to about 5% of the American defense
budget. European countries combined have contributed around
30 billion American rocket launchers are now reaching deep
into Russian occupied Ukraine. And the Patriot air defense
system is shielding millions of Ukrainian civilians from air
strikes. American taxpayers are financing more than just
weapons. Oh, we discovered the US government's buying seeds and
fertilizer for Ukrainian farmers and covering the salaries of
Ukraine's first responders, all 57,000 of them. Russia's
invasion shrank Ukraine's economy by about a third. We
were surprised to find that to keep it afloat. The US
government is subsidizing small businesses. In total, America
has pumped nearly $25 billion of non military aid into Ukraine's
economy since the invasion began.
Adam Curry: So I consider this to be a hit piece on the on this
whole phony baloney setup that we're paying for it is 60
minutes. So that's the CIA broadcasting systems if we
believe Seymour Hersh and I have no reason not to, there is an
internal conflict or a conflict between CIA and the DIA Defense
Intelligence Agency. We talked about in the last show, CIA is
saying everyone's dead. There's no one fighting back. There's no
war. Just it's over. It's effectively over at DIA, you go
into far. You got your money, you got your 143 whatever it is
billion stop. And of course, they're not stopping. So I think
this is a hit piece. That may be that may become more clear in
the third clip, here's two.
Unknown: And you can see it working at the bustling Farmers
Market on John McCain Street.
Adam Curry: Natural keys. Are you starting to get you're
starting to get the idea? John McCain streets of Ukraine.
Unknown: This is your moment. The late senator is revered in
Ukraine, because he pushed the US government to start sending
arms to the country after Russia first invaded back in 2014.
While in Kyiv, we learned that three of McCain's former
colleagues were also in town, Democratic senators Elizabeth
Warren and Richard Blumenthal, and Republican Senator Lindsey
Graham.
Adam Curry: It's a cool takedown because it's taking down the
Republicans, which is also correct, because these people
are evil.
Unknown: They don't normally agree on much together though.
They're some of the staunchest supporters of us funding for
Ukraine's resistance.
They're on track To break the Russian army, and the only way
they could possibly lose is if we pulled the plug on.
The wreckage of Russia's war machine was on display for
Ukraine's independence day celebrations, even as almost a
fifth of the country remains under occupation.
People ask me, is it worth it? Here's what we've gotten for our
investment. We haven't lost one soldier. We've reduced the
combat power of the Russian army by 50%. And not one of us has
died in that endeavor. This is a great deal for America when
Adam Curry: he says not one of us that he's talking about not
one of the senators, obviously, you've previously
Unknown: said that it's the best money we've ever spent. That's
still true.
Since we help Churchill stand up to the Nazis do.
We have to have confidence.
John C Dvorak: By the way, the logic of all this is just
fascinating.
Adam Curry: People have no knowledge of history. You see,
Canadian Parliament,
John C Dvorak: was it was it besides that? I mean, this the
illogic of Well, we were running a war, but we haven't lost any
soldiers. So that's great. As as people are dying by the hundreds
by the 1000s.
Adam Curry: But the Ukrainians, they don't count. See, it's a
real
John C Dvorak: it's a very patronizing, kind of, it's sick.
It's basically sick.
Adam Curry: Yes, I agree.
Unknown: We have to have confidence that the dollars
we're spending are actually being spent in defense of the
nation. All of that is important. But that's
Adam Curry: what we just heard that they're not they're not
being spent in defense of the nation. They're being spent to
keep small businesses afloat. All kinds of other stuff,
Unknown: but that's why we're here. Senators and other US
officials told us there have been no substantiated cases of
American weapons being diverted. Okay,
Adam Curry: but then CBS 60 minutes throws this out.
Unknown: But Ukraine is a young democracy with a history of
corruption. According to the monitoring group Transparency
International, it's ranked the second most corrupt country in
Europe, only Russia scores lower. An American hotline for
Ukrainians to report misuse of assistance from USAID saw a
tenfold increase when these posters went up across the
country earlier this year. American officials are now
investigating for criminal cases involving non military aid. And
170. Ukrainian government officials, including high
ranking military officers have been charged in corruption cases
so far this year, for crimes like embezzlement and accepting
bribes. Ukraine is losing us weapons on the battlefield. But
Lieutenant shoshan told us that's the only way they're
losing them. Has anything gone missing?
In my situation in my company in our battalion, I don't know the
case like this.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Okay. So I think this is the setup. This
is a bit of a hit piece. It's like no, no, you guys are over
there. The unit party this corruption. You know, this is
what the you know, we're also funding their whole economy.
Apparently, we can't fund our own economy. Now this is what
gets people riled up and people get mad about this stuff. So it
feels to me like CBS CIA broadcast
John C Dvorak: does have a funny feeling because that's where he
is. And that's why the Lindsey Graham thing triggered me
because it's like, why would you put that in there in the first
place? You you make your you bring it this is a common way of
doing it. You bring in a person who acts despicable, which is
exactly what he did. Yeah. And and present him out. Hey, look
at this. And then so it gets everybody to despise him.
Because it's like a despicable thing to say what he did what he
said
Adam Curry: and he's, he's already so disposable.
John C Dvorak: Yes, very despised, disposable,
disposable.
Adam Curry: So then more CBS
John C Dvorak: you do that. Anyway, the point is, you do
that on purpose. Yes.
Adam Curry: Oh, completely. Towards the kids would say 100%.
So now we go to CBS Face the Nation. And let's rile people up
a little more
Unknown: Ukrainian president Zelensky and his wife Elena
visited Washington last week to press the case for more US
assistance in Ukraine's fight against the Russian invasion. We
spoke with the First Lady during their visit with the aid of
Ukrainian government interpreter. We began by asking
her about what life is like for Ukrainian children.
Adam Curry: By the way, I don't think Margaret Brennan, who's
you know, the news model in this case, I don't think she's really
aware that she's helping the demise of the narrative here.
Unknown: greenskin today, unfortunately, only 1/3 of
Ukrainian children can now attend schools Mr. bhootish call
on this because our schools have to decide It's safe to be
located in safe areas. She does eat and falls with bomb
shelters, and my foundation continuous fundraising
John C Dvorak: staff again, another little tidbit here in
terms of the very I'm going to go along with your whole thesis.
So if you're going to use these mechanisms to do a hit piece and
then compound it with the with the Margaret Brennan show. There
are a lot of different people that you can have do the
translation. Yes, but they have some sad sack. Come on with this
pathetic voice. You don't need that you can have an uptempo
lifting, you know, a kind of a positive spirited person doing
the translations as someone who sounds like she's gonna start to
cry in a second. That's done for another that's also done
purposefully. Can we find a translator hay bale? Can we find
a translator? Sounds so sad.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And it's so I think when you air these these
answers, but I think people at home just Joe Oh, let me say at
six pack, sent home going through our school suck. What?
She's not wearing, you know, fatigues. Like, like Volodymyr.
You know, she's she's, she's she's dressed nicely. She's you
know, she's she was in vogue. This is him. This is shades of
dip like the Assad woman. Yeah, yeah. The Assad fee which they
also took down so empty, like, and then it's her foundation.
What? What, what, what not giving money to your foundation.
It's one thing to give money to the country, to the military. I
can even kind of see the emergency services. But now we
got to give to your foundation. What is this? Why it makes no
sense.
John C Dvorak: Clinton Foundation, thank you.
Unknown: Our schools have to be safe, safe to be located in safe
areas. And we need schools with bomb shelters, and my foundation
continuous fundraising resources of less to ensure that we have
comfortable bomb shelters in all Ukrainian schools are
Adam Curry: comfortable bomb shelters. When it comfortable
bomb shelters, you know, our kids need to be comfortable.
Well, the
Unknown: rest of Ukrainian children two thirds continue. Go
into school online. Because they live in the frontline areas.
Many children left Ukraine they live abroad, and they call it
when children were leaving Ukraine.
Adam Curry: By the way this is that there's a mistake here that
they're making or it's purposeful. Well, we kept
hearing was the Russians kidnapped 10s of 1000s of
children. The Russians kidnapped him now we're hearing something
else.
John C Dvorak: Well, there was wait. Let's take the side the
side of the narrative, if you must. There was a lot of
complaining about the Russians kidnapping the kids out of the
Donbass in that area. But the other kids, there's still a
shitload and probably more kids that like fled to in the early
days fled to Germany.
Adam Curry: Yeah, all those places. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: So I don't think it's inaccurate. Most
something's
Adam Curry: off about this whole interview.
Unknown: Frontline areas. Many children left Ukraine they live
abroad.
Adam Curry: That's your frontline, the frontline areas
that's the Donbass region, many of them live abroad. What
happened to the kidnapped by Russia narrative it should be in
here if it wasn't anti Russia, if
John C Dvorak: they're gonna talk about if she's gonna drop
the front line. There's no kids around any of that area
Unknown: and they collude. When children were leaving Ukraine.
Sometimes they could undertake the documents with them and left
everything behind the wall that is white, both children and
teachers require laptops, iPads to continue iPads education and
we receive a lot of support including from our American
partners. What
Adam Curry: they need iPads,
John C Dvorak: nobody needs an iPad,
Adam Curry: they need iPads. Send your money to my
foundation, the kids need iPads. Say and what anyway, Face the
Nation then put this in because the last bit we're sending is
the tactical missiles. The ones that have some reach
Unknown: we go now to Arizona Democratic Senator Mark Kelly he
is in Austin, Texas double whammy this morning. CBS has
confirmed that President Biden in his meeting with President
Zelensky said he would provide Ukraine with attack homes these
are these longer range surface to surface missile systems that
would allow them to hit behind Russian lines. The Ukrainians
have been asking for months for these systems. Whether it was
the F six As the attack comes now Are you frustrated at how
long leading the witness it takes for approval to happen for
these systems?
Yeah, this conflict been going on for a year and a half now.
And in the beginning we provided artillery ammunition eventually
high Mars F six teams are not like other weapons systems
they're complicated you have to train pilots you have to train
maintainers I worked with the administration on that we've
gotten them cluster weapons now Yeah, attack comes is an
additional capability. There were some issues we had to work
through. They've been you know stressing the need for this over
over a period of time now and we're at the point that we're
going to provide them this capability and I think it's
going to be helpful
what restriction should there be you know, why the apprehension
for so long
well I'm an artillery shell goes about 80 miles so to attack them
missile goes about 190 miles so there was concern where and
against what targets would they use them we don't want this to
escalate but we're at the spot right now where they needed to
do it capability to maintain some more progress the progress
on this counter offensive it's been good you know, I talked to
Ukrainian commanders there are things that are you know,
starting to provide some you know, problems but we're making
progress there.
Adam Curry: What does that mean? I think they set him up all
right, you're you're in charge of that so whatever happens with
those attack comes with a cool name. acronym but attackers
whatever happens yeah, some problems but it's okay now,
meanwhile, reports that 10,000 Ukrainian soldiers have
surrendered to the Russians using the special Volga
frequency which is 149.2 megahertz, which you can you can
basically get on your, on your hands but what are the what are
those $25 radios we still be used to start we started off
with you have one in your desk drawer.
John C Dvorak: I have one I have a couple of laying around.
Adam Curry: What's the cheapo called again? named my fan I
think her bio bio Feng Bao
John C Dvorak: Bao for Chinese, Chinese. And they then they're
good. Yeah. Bao Fang. Yeah, follow Fang. They the batteries
last forever. I don't know how that works.
Adam Curry: So now they have a frequency 149.2 megahertz you
just call and say Hey, want to surrender? It's over,
John C Dvorak: probably using that particular gear. And of
course,
Adam Curry: of course. Now I'm with Hersh. I really think that
it's so it may go on forever. But only as a demilitarized zone
and just a bunch of posturing and you know no real fighting. I
just don't think there's fighting going on. Doesn't I
mean have you seen any recent footage of fighting and and wins
or losses or anything? No, you don't we're not seeing that
anymore.
John C Dvorak: It didn't see much fighting to begin with. No.
Adam Curry: Well, no, we never like well, I mean, on my
military contact, I have the I must have 50 videos of Abrams
tanks all these tanks getting blown up. Just it's just sitting
ducks drone footage of Abrams tanks getting droned. I mean,
none of this seems to have worked very well at all. So and
of course this report which we didn't we I had it but I have a
semi clip from the American Journal. It's a poor read, but
at least we can laugh about it.
Unknown: Zelinsky asks Marina Abramovich to be ambassador for
Ukraine. Now apparently this story was removed from the
telegraph but that's where it was originally posted. They've
since scrubbed the internet of it we've had to go to Wayback
Machine version, the archive to get it here. Volodymyr Zelensky,
has asked Marina Abramovich the, quote performance artists to be
an ambassador for Ukraine. Miss Abramovich, a fierce critic of
Vladimir Putin's illegal invasion, said the Ukrainian
president had asked her for help in rebuilding schools or
rebuilding schools.
Adam Curry: So Marina Abramovich and who herself has claimed that
Zelinsky wants her to be an ambassador to the children not
like an official ambassador to think this guy gets wrong. And
most people immediately associate her with the spirit
cooking and the
John C Dvorak: lie Yes,
Adam Curry: the blood stuff.
John C Dvorak: No, I have not straightened out this store. I
mean, I've seen references to it but I'm glad you picked up on it
and you could just Yes, that's where I that's who that is the
spirit cooking woman where you throw bunch of did guts on your
wall or something? Well well when you eat it was it was
Adam Curry: interesting about her and I want to remind
everybody she ties back directly to the Podesta clan.
John C Dvorak: No she did that she goes to it yes that's where
it clean esta and
Adam Curry: the Clintons. Yeah, so this cannot be coincidental
or you know she it seems totally like her huge ego like yeah I'm
a part of this I'm paying the guys let me in on the scam
John C Dvorak: do some sketchy about her even be mentioned
whether this is any of this is even true. It could all be a
setup. Like I'm you know that transgender guy dude
Adam Curry: look wired who got fired?
John C Dvorak: I didn't never. I had never believed that you've
ever worked there?
Adam Curry: He ever know whoever whatever, whatever. Yeah, no, I
don't either. Now that
John C Dvorak: this, this whole thing seems like a like bull
crap from the get go. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So I can take us from there. Unless you have
anything else on Ukraine. I think I think now I'm got it for
today. I can take us to what's going on with migration around
the world. But
John C Dvorak: I do have one little thing I wanted to get out
of the way and Ukraine. Sure. And this was the this mostly
about the Russians. And you have to do a search because it's from
two or three shows ago on on the Cubans, supposedly, that the
Russians are kidnapping and forcing him to soldier down to
fight in the war. Have you heard this one?
Adam Curry: No, and I'm trying to find it will be under Cuban.
It'd be oh my goodness. Do you have like a whole bunch of clips
here? Oh, no. I see. Here we go. Here we go.
Unknown: Cuban authorities have uncovered an international human
trafficking ring. The victims are being sent overseas to fight
for Russia in the war against Ukraine. That's according to a
statement by Cuban authorities released on Monday. Cuba's
Foreign Ministry said Cuba is not part of the war in Ukraine
and Cuba will act against human trafficking aimed at recruiting
Cubans as mercenaries Cuban state run media at this at the
ministerial Deli. The
Interior Ministry detected and is working on the neutralization
and dismantling of a human trafficking network.
Cuba said it had already begun prosecuting cases in which its
citizens had been coerced into fighting in Ukraine. A Cuban
resident gave his take on the matter.
Cuba is against all illegal human trafficking. People said
it was to send them to war in Ukraine. The Cuban revolution is
against that.
And if true, this could mean Russia is having trouble
recruiting people from its own citizens. But why Cuba, Russia
has longstanding political ties with communist Cuba and Cuban
citizens often migrate to Russia for economic opportunities.
Russia is also looking elsewhere for help in its war against
Ukraine. On Monday, US National Security Council spokesperson
Adrienne Watson said North Korea leader Kim Jong Hoon and Russian
President Vladimir Putin could be planning to
clearly Russia running short of ammunition right now and having
to go to North Korea. Patricia Lewis,
the head of the International Security Program at the think
tank Chatham House explained that North Korea more than just
currency.
Obviously, it would like real high tech, missile technology,
etc. It may also want a show of strength with Russia such as
military exercises, naval exercises and so on that may be
part of the discussions.
Adam Curry: All of these people all of these think tanks, these
NGOs they're all in on the game. They're all getting paid for
participating in this in this play. What do you think the
significance of this was that you
John C Dvorak: did something very phony about it? Yeah. To
incorporate the the North Korea, Putin Kim meeting, that sort of
thing that always seemed like bull crap. And the fact that
they Oh, we have to go to North Korea for high tech weaponry why
right? This is like does this make sense? Now anyone with a
normal brain it's
Adam Curry: the same Well, it's the same type of misinformation
disinformation that the CIA brought in with MI six I'm sure
there is Chatham House Yeah, that Putin was suffering from
cancer Parkinson's He's almost dead.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, a big list. Yeah.
Adam Curry: What happened to that? American news media what
happened to that he's Oh, look at his head it's all puffy
because he's taken cancer meds he's gonna die. No.
John C Dvorak: So this seemed to be part of the narrative that
Oh, Russia is hard up forgetting people. They're all leaving the
country and nobody wants to fight for Putin. And so he's got
to involve himself with the word human trafficking.
Adam Curry: This is key
John C Dvorak: it's it's a make it look bad, obviously. And
Cubans Did you know these dumb Cubans I guess, John and how
they got wrapped up into there was a bunch of women living in
Russia that shows you if you move to Russia, you're gonna
get, you know, grabbed and thrown in
Adam Curry: rousted yeah Ross Ross did.
John C Dvorak: I mean this this is unbelievable how how extreme
this this storyline you
Adam Curry: have a kicker here 14 Second kicker Yes, but it is
Unknown: National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan on Tuesday
said that it says a lot that Russia is trying to obtain
weapons from North Korea and September 2023, especially for a
war that Russia said would be over in a week
Adam Curry: now as this propaganda.
John C Dvorak: It's just a problem. But as such dubious
probably does anybody believe that Russia who you know who
just came shore to go into the moon and still is running the
Soyuz spacecraft the only way we can get to our own space station
is using this Russian devices that once in a while SpaceX can
send somebody up that they have to go to North Korea the crazy
North Korea to bite to get weapon and come mine is crazy to
even think that but they're pushing it.
Adam Curry: That means they're desperate.
John C Dvorak: Desperation is and Jake Sullivan side of the
equation. Oh
Adam Curry: man. I didn't clip it. But Anthony Blinken was at
some White House function. And he plays blues guitar on stage
does a blues song. Oh my god. Yeah, he's like it and it's not
bad after I'll give him that
John C Dvorak: but I'm sure he will be a lot of people can play
blues guitar. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Got the load. Amir's more bullets down, down, down,
down. Boy, he shooting them all down. That Putin ain't looking
so good. No more. Yeah. So the human trafficking angle is being
used over us around the world and a paper surfaced a paper
from 2000 from the United Nations. And it even the, what
is the big the big conspiracy theory that Tucker Carlson,
everybody in Europe? You know, Jews will not replace us? Do you
know that this is called right? The replacement theory?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the one we're Mirko got an award for
being
Adam Curry: that's the colleague colleague award. But the
replacement theory has been called anti semitic, You're
horrible. You know, this is not true. It's it's all conspiracy
theory. Well, this paper is titled, replacement migration.
Is it a solution to declining and ageing populations. And it's
a very extensive paper from the United Nations from 2001. And
I'll just give you the executive summary, I'll just read this.
Yeah, because they go through all of this. The new challenges
being brought about by declining and aging populations will
require objective, thorough and comprehensive reassessments of
many established economic, social and political policies
and programs. Such reassessments will need to incorporate a long
term perspective, critical issues to be addressed in those
reassessments will include a the appropriate ages for retirement.
Remember, this is from 2001. What have we seen in Europe,
retirement age is being moved. Be the levels types and nature
of retirement and health care benefits for the elderly?
France? Hello. What were they complaining about? health care
benefits UK health care benefits national health care system. See
the labor force participation, which is low right now labor
participation is low. That's why there's low unemployment. But it
doesn't mean that there's not people who are out of work, they
just given up and be the assessed amount of contributions
from workers and employers to support retirement and health
care benefits for the increasingly elder population.
Always a big discussion in our own country and II policies and
programs relating to the international migration, in
particular replacement migration and the integration of large
numbers of recent migrants and their descendants. They are
executing a plan globally. It's global. It's here, it's all over
Europe. And they're and they have no intention of stopping it
whatsoever. This is way be of way above Biden above McCrone.
This is your this is your great reset from the United Nations.
This is why you have the una the United Nations Migration Agency
We're busing people from South America giving him cell phones
down there giving him credit debit cards. Yeah, what we see
is oh, it's the beast train bull crap. This is, this is
purposeful. And it goes right back to the former New York
banker. America wins because our population is growing. But it's
not growing because we're making children is growing because we
have open borders.
John C Dvorak: Yep. Well, that brings us to Greg Abbott in
Texas.
Adam Curry: Okay, I knew this is one of those shows where we
integrate, I will hit he
John C Dvorak: goes to New York of all places. What is Greg
Abbott doing in New York, and let's find out.
Unknown: I'm here in New York City right outside of Roosevelt
Hotel. It's been the city's Intake Center for immigrants.
And while I was standing here, a man from Senegal approached me
and asked me where he needed to go. So we talked to some workers
at this entrance, and they pointed the man in this
direction to an entrance over here. New York City continues to
deal with this immigration crisis. And Governor Abbott says
that's just a fraction of what Texas sees on a daily basis.
We have in any one particular location 1000s of people
crossing the border in a mad
rush type of way. Texas Governor Greg Abbott was in New York City
on Wednesday, he spoke at the Manhattan Institute about the
nation's border crisis. And he shared some surprising numbers
regarding the illegal immigrants currently in New York City.
How many migrants do you have here? 120,000, something like
that. Texas, has bussed 15,800 to New York. Are these other
people come from the Biden administration?
Adam Curry: Yes. And Abbott's in on it. They're all in it knows
that this is a global movement. This is not just a Biden
administration goes way above that. But okay, it's his job
he's playing. He's going to New York. Get on Broadway. Come on,
Greg.
John C Dvorak: You do what you do or Republican? Yeah, you
blame the Democrats course. Of course,
Adam Curry: just what you do. Yeah.
Unknown: Fabin explain that Texas has deployed the National
Guard and the Texas Department of Public Safety to help deal
with the crisis. And the National Guard has been setting
up miles of razor wire
along the US Mexico border. The Biden administration, had their
border patrol, go in and cut that razor wire that we put up,
pull it open. And there was an onrush of 1000s of illegal
immigrants pouring into the country.
And also said Texas is now building border barriers between
Texas and New Mexico to stop illegal immigrants from crossing
into El Paso never forget,
it was just three years ago, we had the lowest number of border
crossings in 40 years. It's kind of hard for people to understand
or remember, but it proves this and that is the President of the
United States can have an outsized impact on illegal
immigration across the border.
And last week, over 8600 people crossed the US Mexico border in
a 24 hour period, according to an official from the Department
of Homeland Security. That's up from about 3500 per day after
title 42 ended in May. And Abbott said the solution is for
the Biden team to just follow the laws already in place not
have to pass new
laws in force, the current laws on the books until that time
comes. Texas is going to continue to use every tool that
we can to secure the border. The best that we can.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's bull crap. They're not securing
anything. They're not. They're just not there. They're there in
Fredericksburg. It's all as rampant now. It's rampant.
There's no stopping anybody. They're doing exactly what
they're told to do. Although there's all kinds of cell phone
video now of agents, speaking up speaking out against their,
their commanding officers. It's unintelligible it's really not
usable for the show, even with the Adobe product, but they're
starting to go, Hey, hold on a second. This is this is not
we're we're not abiding to our our laws, our constitutional
John C Dvorak: duty and point that made about the laws brings
up to two things. I didn't I don't have any clips from the
debates because it's a waste of time. But anybody who brings up
the idea of immigration reform is part of the of the scam. Yes.
Adam Curry: Exactly.
John C Dvorak: Because the fact is, we would put Abbot said it
whether you meant to say it or not. He's right. If you enforce
the laws we already have, and this applies to everything from
shoplifting to immigration and everything in between. You don't
have a problem. No, it's just law enforcement that the issue
is is law enforcement itself. But if you start talking about
oh, we need immigration reform. No, we don't. That's a lie. And
anyone who says that Nikki Haley being the top on that list,
Adam Curry: oh my goodness. I'm so disappointed in her. She is
just
John C Dvorak: the worst. She is the worst
Adam Curry: horrible. Let's go to CBS Face the Nation. Margaret
Brennan talking to a Texas representative.
Unknown: We turn now to Texas Republican Congressman Tony
Gonzales, who joins us from San Antonio this morning. I San
Adam Curry: Antonio, by the way Riverwalk you've ever been to
San Antonio ever been to the Riverwalk? Oh yeah. Well, you
can't go there anymore. Why not? It's just filled with people
sleeping migrants. They literally jump
John C Dvorak: cozy next to the river and the fireflies. No, no,
they lighting songs in the sombreros?
Adam Curry: No, it's not. It's not sombreros. It's not
Mexicans. It's, it's from all over the world. They're just
being dumped on the buses. Boom, dump them right there. And then
off you go
Unknown: this morning, Congressman, a lot to get to
with you. Well, if there is a shutdown, are the Border Patrol
agents in your district prepared to show up to work?
Adam Curry: See, this isn't the next talking point, oh, more
scripts at a
Unknown: time of migrant? Spike and not get paid spike? You
know, that's, that's the ugly part of a shutdown is you're
gonna have you're gonna have real people get hurt. But right
now, border patrol agents are showing up to operate in
processing centers. They're not out in the field. So they're not
really doing their jobs, and they haven't been doing their
jobs. And many, many agents have told me you know what, Tony?
Right now, I mean, give you example, in El Paso, the
facility 200 Border Patrol agents are in that soft sided
facility, taking care of migrants, meaning they're not
out in the field, protecting America from bad actors. So in
many cases, they might as well already be shut down.
Adam Curry: Yes, you could hear even go What do you mean, that's
their job. We mean, they're not doing their job. That is their
job. Who is
Unknown: preventing that?
The problem is, is Joe Biden's failed
Adam Curry: their failed immigration policies,
Unknown: we see the images, we hear the stories, but we never
hear solutions. So let's, let's talk some solutions. One of
those is I've been pushing very hard and many of my colleagues
to end catch and release I have an amendment in that homeland
bill that ends catch and release. Another one is, once
again, the Border Patrol agents, they're they're out of the game.
The the folks that are doing the real work are the sheriffs and
the deputies. And there's a program called stone stone
garden. And and there's a $10 million upgrade for that this
helps with manpower and equipment to help fight the
border crisis. But the third piece, which I'd argue is the
most important is repatriation flights. And when I met with
Secretary Mayorkas earlier this week, that's what I asked him
for repatriation flights, meaning if somebody does not
qualify for asylum, you don't bus them to New York, you don't
send them to LA, you don't let them go other places, you send
them back to their country of origin.
Adam Curry: The thing that's wrong with this guy is you don't
need this. It's not an issue of law. That's the thing. It's
like, you're you're you're just flailing in the wind. It's an
it's a matter of will the agencies do their job and has
nothing to do with what's in the law. This is all and it's all
just political. Oh, it's the Biden administration. Of course.
CNN take Well,
Unknown: this morning. There's a new agreement between Mexico and
the US to deport migrants at border cities back home to their
countries. It's part of an effort to fight the massive
surge in illegal crossings in recent weeks. Mexican officials
have also agreed to prevent migrants from using railways to
reach the border. This agreement comes as Texas border towns are
feeling the weight of the crisis with the mayor of El Paso saying
the city is at its breaking point soon. It's Rosa Flores
joins us live from Houston. Rosa, I was reading your
reporting throughout the course of the weekend. There's a ton to
unpack here. But what's the significance of this agreement?
You know, so this is really significant because it could be
the difference between the US seeing another surge on the
southern border. Not you would Mexican officials here that they
are going to quote depressurize their northern Mexican border
cities by deporting migrants back to their home countries,
which in essence means Mexico would be rerouting the flow of
migration before migrants actually get to the US southern
border. US Representative Henry Clare over the weekend,
applauded this move saying that this is a strategy that has
worked in the past under President Obama and President
Trump. But it's notable to add that advocacy organizations,
immigration advocates and human rights organizations have in the
past condemned this type of strategy.
Adam Curry: This is where they bring in the human trafficking
and there's all kinds of horrific stories, oh, human
trafficking, human trafficking. And of course, it's horrible.
These people are being told and being given a license to travel
to the United States and they've been told don't worry about it
when you get that yeah, maybe you have to wait for them to cut
the razor wire but you come in, it'd be all fine. You could stay
in the Roosevelt Hotel. This is The it's a it's the it is the
replacement migration. It is underway. There's big money
behind it. And yeah, yes,
John C Dvorak: it has to be somewhere it has to the whole
thing has to be globalist. Because if you remember, and
we're going back 15 years, we started doing the show almost 16
years now. Yeah. Wow, there was discussions. I think it was
during the, during our show era. It may have been before but I
very distinctly remember it about how we were lax at the
Mexican border but the Mexicans on the Guatemala border if you
tried to cross into Mexico, they they shoot you they beat you
couldn't get into Mexico, it was impossible because the Mexicans
were so mean about anyone trying to enter their country now all
of a sudden has singhalese and and Venezuelans and everyone
else just plowing through Mexico like there's like there's no
barrier to Mexico at all when
Unknown: the barrier North
Adam Curry: Africans Africans.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. How does that work
Adam Curry: because the United Nations migration migrant agency
is is shipping them they're shipping them all over the
world. They're facilitating it. And anybody who is we're just
being distracted with Petia he said she said Biden whatever be
Oh, stop shipping your people to New York. Build the wall. Well,
it's a little late for that now but it's the money it's big
money. And it is and they're not shy about it the this white
paper which is in the show notes have a read there and it's in
multiple languages in good un fashion, and its course ended
for the entire world to see and and to act upon. And it's it's
too late. Although Chicago is starting to wake up a little bit
Unknown: could Chicago reverse course on his pledge to be a
sanctuary city, some aldermen
are ready to leave it up to the voters after another weekend of
bus arrivals from the border.
Anthony Ponce is live with more Anthony.
On it, Scott. The migrant crisis shows no signs of slowing down
as of this morning. Roughly 9000 migrants are being housed in
shelters across the city with another 2000 camped out in
places like this where outside of district 19 police
headquarters are also camped out at airports. And now with no end
in sight. There's a new effort underway to let voters taxpayers
themselves decide whether whether Chicago should remain a
sanctuary city.
Adam Curry: Nobody has ever asked the voters, the people who
actually pay taxes and vote here in the city of Chicago. If they
want to remain a sanctuary city
Unknown: Ninth Ward Alderman Anthony veal wants to change
that migrants continuing to arrive to Chicago by the bus
load.
Adam Curry: Let's let the people decide. Let's not be afraid of
putting something on the ballot. He's talking about the march
primary ballot. Which March primary ballot that's after half
of these people will frozen to death in the winter.
John C Dvorak: When Chicago some winter
Adam Curry: that'll cure people
Unknown: he wants to include the question, should Chicago keep
its sanctuary city designation, the influx of migrants is
expected to cost Chicago taxpayers $255 million, by the
end of this year,
Adam Curry: they're always thrown out the money, it's going
to cost us so much going to know it's going to cost you your job,
your life, everything you all have to remember, only a certain
fraction of the country are dealing with this. These are
democratic cities and democratic states are the only ones. We are
not sharing the wealth across the country. Other cities and
other states are not dealing with these problems in order for
the referendum to hear on the march ballot. It would Oh no.
This is the beauty of like, Hey, I think he says they're not
sharing the wealth, which is even funnier listening entities
and democratic states are the only ones. We are not sharing
the wealth across the country, the wealth. Why is he saying the
wealth, the wealth of illegal immigrants, asylum seekers, job
seekers the wealth, you want to share that wealth gray catch?
That's it. He also says only Democrat city billion dollars by
the end of this year do you all have to remember, only a certain
fraction of the country are dealing with this. The
Democratic cities and democratic states are the only ones. We are
not sharing the wealth across the country. Other cities and
other states are not dealing with these problems. They need
some wealth, send them some wealth in order for the
referendum to appear on the march ballot.
Unknown: It would need a majority vote from the Chicago
City Council.
John C Dvorak: I definitely think that's something that
should be up for discussion regardless of whether you're pro
or against it.
Unknown: I don't think it's that important compared to a lot of
the other issues that we are facing in Chicago.
Adam Curry: No really.
Unknown: San right now Chicago is under what is called a
welcoming city ordinance, which means don't inquire as to any
immigrants status and also police officers do not cooperate
with ICE agents.
Adam Curry: Now that's interesting because they're
saying police officers are not cooperating with ICE agents
making it look like ice was trying to do something but the
cops man, they're in the welcoming city of Chicago.
They're not helping out. Well, boots on the ground. Adam and
John thought you might find my recent experience trying to get
help from ice Homeland Security. Interesting. Here's some
background. I've been a police officer in a small Northwest
Ohio town for 25 years. We are rural and are surrounded by a
lot of farmland we see a lot of migrant workers. But recently,
we've seen a large uptick in illegal immigrants so much so
that I got a call from a trailer park owner. The trailer park is
owned by a management company out of Florida, the Florida
manager reported that they believe there may be possible
human trafficking of illegal immigrants at two of their lots.
So and then he goes on and you know what he observed? You know,
people being shuttled, being fed in one trailer and more people
coming in those people going never seen them again. And he
says what is interesting is that the registered tenant for one of
those trailers doesn't actually live there. That person is
running a check cashing business out of another residence. So
it's a whole the scam is on all different levels. Oh, yeah. This
type of investigation is not something we're equipped to deal
with. So I called for help. I call the national hotline of ice
era Enforcement and Removal Operations and received a
message that all lines were busy. All lines are busy, please
call back later, I tried two more times on different dates
received the same message. In addition, I also called the
local office out of Detroit three times and was sent to
voicemail. I have yet to receive a call back getting work visas
for all the immigrants in New York City must be a bigger
priority. So ice is not cooperating. Don't blame the
cops. Don't blame the cops. Ice is not cooperating. That's
what's happening here.
John C Dvorak: The whole thing is just to complete. Well, I
want to play this clip. And I have a point to make.
Adam Curry: Okay, but I do have some of your Europe stuff to do.
So make sure
John C Dvorak: migrants National Park and New Tang Dynasty clip
this migrants. They want to move into the national parks now.
Yeah.
Unknown: And the Biden administration's plan to house
illegal immigrants on federal lands and a national parks is
under scrutiny.
Adam Curry: I got to stop this for a second. So, you know, a
big story is which I think was picked up by the daily wire.
Some guy flew his plane over this land in Texas. And it's a
development and the development is pretty big. And they expect
to have I don't know, 20,000 people living in this
development. And the story goes like this. Illegal Immigrants
are getting loans without checking where they are.
There's, they're putting flags in different countries. They're
raising them up over all this development. It's all horrible.
It's all in Texas, it's no good. And all you said all anyone has
is this aerial footage of some trailers. You know, it's like,
and so everyone's up in arms about this, this development
with this guy apparently is giving out, you know, loans that
are not you know, you get a loan without any collateral. The
human trafficking but there's no no pictures from on the ground.
Even those Supposedly there's flags of foreign nations being
hoisted over these trailers. That's what everyone's mad
about. But we have to go to New Tang Dynasty to find out that
the Biden administration wants to put them in our national
parks. Where's the outrage? know everybody gets outraged
John C Dvorak: by New Tang Dynasty.
Unknown: A house committee held a hearing today examining the
proposal.
The Housing Committee on natural resources held a hearing
Wednesday on the Biden administration's use of National
Park Service lands to house illegal immigrants. Earlier this
month, the Biden administration agreed to lease Floyd Bennett
field to New York City. The site is part of the Gateway National
Recreation Area and temporarily housed 2500 of the immigrants.
The endless flow of illegal immigrants over our southern
border is not only destroying individual cities and states is
destroying our country. Now the Biden administration is looking
to spread this chaos to one of America's greatest ideas. Our
national parks.
Adam Curry: I didn't I didn't either. I didn't watch the
debate last night either. But I'm sure that it was all about
the Biden administration as the borders open the Biden
administration, this the Biden administration that it's all
theater, they don't care. They don't they have no solutions.
They know it's a plan that it's both way above their pay. Well,
John C Dvorak: if you find a dead doc, a major document for
2002 Everyone's seen it.
Adam Curry: Oh definitely. Yeah. When
Unknown: announcing the Biden administration's decision, New
York City Mayor Eric Adams said his own administration has
quotes been forced to unsustainably open new site
after new site as asylum seekers continue to arrive by the 1000s.
Democratic New York State Assembly Member Jamie Williams,
whose district includes Floyd Bennett field, said she has
grave concerns over the proposal. She emphasized that
the site has no infrastructure, no plumbing, no electricity and
no sewage system.
Floyd Bennett field in National Park is a treasure of natural
beauty and biodiversity. Housing individuals here is equivalent
to tarnishing the sanctity of Yellowstone National Park. The
irreversible damage of flora and fauna and the destruction of our
natural beauty are contrary to the ethos of conservation and
preservation. That National Park symbolizes
Kenneth Spencer, chairman of the US Park Police fraternal force
of police expressed concerns over the agency's readiness to
protect the public and the immigrants themselves.
Let me be perfectly clear, even without the migrant shelter on
Floyd Bennett field, we are at least 300 officers short of our
required minimum level. Our capacity to serve and protect
the public today is literally bursting at the seams.
Adam Curry: So this document has all these different scenarios in
it with different projections and they go all the way through
2050 in this document and be what will we need, you know,
what are we going to need we're gonna need for Europe and Italy
and Europe and the European Union from 2001. The European
Union just started as the EU had to happen didn't didn't even
have the Euro at that point. I don't think scenario now that
the monetary unit I don't think the Euro happened till 2003.
John C Dvorak: Maybe let's take a look we can we can check our
old facts. Yes, you check that and
Adam Curry: I'll read this the medium variant so sarin,
scenario one the medium variant of projections from the United
Nations World Population Prospects 1998 Revision scenario
to the medium variant of the 1988 1998 Revision amended by
assuming zero migration after 1995 This and in Scenario three,
this scenario computes and assumes the migration required
to maintain the size of the total population at the highest
level that would reach in the absence of migration after 1995.
So that they they have figured out exactly how much needs to
go. Where am they have by millions Germany needs 10 point
2 million the United States 38 million all of Europe 18 million
European Union 13 point 4 million. That's the total number
than they have. They've plotted this whole thing out the whole
thing, although fertility May May rebound in the coming
decades, few believe that for titles, yes, it's few evidence
of that a few believed that fertility in most developed
countries will recover sufficiently to reach
replacement level in the foreseeable future. Thus, making
population decline in edible inevitable in the absence of
replacement migration is a foregone conclusion. For France,
United Kingdom the United States and European Union the numbers
of migrants needed to offset population decline are less than
or comparable to recent past experience. While this is also
the case for Germany and the Russian Federation The migration
flows in 1990s relatively large due to reunification disillusion
respectively. They have it all figured out.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, just like good socialists do.
Adam Curry: Thank you. So Germany is also starting to you
know, like what, what's what's going on?
Unknown: Dozens of asylum hopefuls queue up outside of
registration center in Berlin
Adam Curry: asylum hopefuls. Now this is Berlin. Berlin. This is
not is Berlin on the border.
John C Dvorak: No, no his anywhere but the border.
Adam Curry: Tickets on the border dozens
Unknown: of zactly queue up outside of registration center
in Berlin. Many have made long arduous journeys to get here.
But with most asylum centers already at maximum capacity,
they're facing more hurdles.
The capacities within more than 100 buildings for refugees are
coming to an end. We at the moment we have about 200 places
that could be offered to asylum seekers
Adam Curry: work full Germany's full Berlin's full.
Unknown: In Germany asylum applications are up nearly 80%
Compared to 2020 to 10,000 people have applied this year in
Berlin alone, forcing authorities to open former
airports, hardware stores and churches.
Adam Curry: Well yeah, throw me in the churches in the hard way.
Ace Ace Hardware aces, the place aces the friendly face, Aces the
place with a helpful immigrant folks
Unknown: accommodate the growing number of requests for 90
billigt. Well
now we have the dilemma that too little capacity is available and
until the new ones are created Of course cruel and terrible
pictures rise of gyms being occupied and full
accommodations. The flood of refugees will not go away
especially called the word is not getting more peaceful.
It's a fact the German government is well aware of. On
Wednesday, the Interior Ministry announced increased border
policing in an attempt to discourage smugglers chef
destroys them. We must stop the cruel business of the
traffickers because they put human lives at risk for maximum
profits that federal police are now carrying out additional
checks on the smuggling routes. That's the board is handling and
the Czech Republic. But as strife continues to rage in many
parts of the world, more proactive policies will be
needed to ensure refugees a dignified life once they
inevitably do arrive.
Adam Curry: You know what you never hear? You never hear Hey,
we arrested a human trafficking ring. You don't hear that these
guys smartly. The ones going to Europe on the boats pick those
guys up the guy steering the boat now never hear that Greece
has has decided they're going to tap into the in undocumented
migrants to curb the labor squeeze. Hoo hoo hoo knew there
was no one left in Greece. No one in Greece can work. Al is
Greeks are creative. And you know what? They're gonna build
the metro and the airport. Nice. Yes, you and the German interior
minister. She wants voting rights for refugees. Oh, this is
the next one. Yeah, they should be able to vote, of course makes
nothing but since Italy. Yes.
John C Dvorak: I just want to tell you the euro. January
119 99. Very easy to remember. That's the first year that came
into existence.
Adam Curry: I don't think the Netherlands switch then though.
I thought the Netherlands switch much later.
John C Dvorak: They didn't know switch he wants but January
1 1999. The Euro came into existence? Well, yeah,
Adam Curry: it was it was a European monetary unit. No, no,
John C Dvorak: that was years earlier. This is when an actual
Euro showed up.
Adam Curry: Right. But What country did it show up in?
John C Dvorak: Were you asking me more questions because
Adam Curry: I remember the Netherlands. I was there at the
time. And it was after 2000. But thing was after 2001 and the
Gilder became the euro and everyone was like, hey, my
coffee just doubled in price. Oh, that happened?
John C Dvorak: really screwed. The Italians got to the biggest
screw job from it.
Adam Curry: Well, speaking of the Italians, they're mad notes.
And
John C Dvorak: you okay, the currency was formerly virtual in
1999 notes and coins began to circulate in 2002.
Adam Curry: There you go. So they were already planning this
for the European Union before the Euro was in circulation.
Italy is mad now. Because the Germans supposedly are German
NGOs. This is the big one the NGOs everywhere doing this. All
this is how the money flows. The human traffickers, I'm gonna say
they're just NGOs. That's why no one ever gets arrested. an NGO
man there's evidence
John C Dvorak: for that. That just was if you recall, in Texas
during the Trump administration, they were finding these NGOs
that Catholics a lot of them, yes. Oh, in Austin. Yeah. They
were moving migrants all
Adam Curry: over the place. million dollars a year they were
making. Yeah. And they were making Yes, they were making a
billion dollars. So Italy. Now Oh, Lampedusa. It's full.
There's more migrants now than live on the island of Lampedusa.
But that's okay. We've got a plan.
Unknown: Italy has set up its first center for asylum seekers
deemed to have come from so called safe countries.
Adam Curry: Oh, they're from safe countries. Don't worry.
These aren't the raping kind. Don't worry about Italian
Unknown: government hopes the facility in the Sicilian port of
Pizarro will accelerate the process of asylum claims. It
will house people who can't claim refugee status as they've
arrived from countries not considered to be dangerous. It
comes as Italy's trying to cope with severe overcrowding at its
migrant center on Lampedusa Island. Authorities have begun
moving some other locations after a recent surge in
arrivals. The extent of the problem was highlighted earlier
this month, when some migrants broke out of the center because
of a lack of space and essential provisions. In an effort to
reduce numbers arriving, Prime Minister Georgia Maloney's
cabinet is implementing measures against young adults posing as
unaccompanied minors in order to claim state protection minutes
Okay,
Adam Curry: so these are their safe safe asylum seekers. Don't
worry about it. These are the safe kind, not the kind that are
raping and pillaging and blowing up cars in Sweden. Not the kind
that are beating up gay lesbian to spirit whatever trans in the
Netherlands now, it's not that kind. It's not that kind. None.
No, it's it's all safe. Don't worry about it. And the only cup
Well, there's two, but the only country that is standing up and
saying hey, you leftists you morons. It's all your own fault
is Poland.
John C Dvorak: Hungary out of the picture I
Adam Curry: said there's two. I said, I don't have a clip of a
of a Hungarian member of European Parliament. I only have
a clip of the Polish member of European Parliament. Dominique
tarzi. insky Thank you,
Unknown: Mr. President. You're leftists.
Adam Curry: I love that. Hey, dear leftists Hello, hello
leftists How you doing? Thank
Unknown: you, Mr. President, Your leftists I'm very happy to
take part in this debate about democracy in Europe. So let me
give you some example of a very major democracy in Poland over
1000 years of, of tradition of Polish nation. Polish nation
rejected you, dear leftists A times A times in the role you
have lost elections in Poland. So get used to it, because
you're going to lose again. That's number one. Let me give
you some data about Poland and Polish democracy. The lowest
unemployment in European Union is Poland. The highest GDP after
COVID in European Union is Poland. One of the lowest depths
in European Union is Poland. So don't give us this rubbish about
the need of educated immigration as we heard yesterday, we don't
need your doctors. We don't need your engineers. Take them. Take
them all and pay for them. We don't need them. You know why?
Because there's zero terrorist attacks in Poland. Why? Because
because there is no illegal migration in Poland. So don't
give me this. Look, don't give me this arguments about the
populism. Because this is a fact. This is your data from
Eurostar. So we don't need your engineers. We don't need your
doctors. Take them. Do not do that. Do not teach us do not do
that teach us about democracy, because we know what the
democracy is. So learn from Poland be like Poland. Thank you
very much.
Adam Curry: Like Poland? Exactly. We don't have any of
those problems, why we're not letting them in? Which will be a
very big problem for Poland.
John C Dvorak: Well, they also have they maintain their
population they have a high fertility the don't go laxed and
slack off. No. Which brings me to the point of what you're
going to do with all these people. Because obvious I think
you're right there's nothing to stop this because it's a scam.
shanty towns, I'm telling you, people are gonna have to get
used to this idea, instead of putting them up here and there
is to give them a huge area and let them there's people coming
in from all over the place that are very skilled workers in
terms of carpentry. Yeah, the shanty towns are gonna we
Adam Curry: don't have any more blacksmith plumbers, people who
have skills that we don't want any more.
John C Dvorak: Whether we have or not, is the point that I'm
making is that to deal with all this influxes, you're going to
have to let them take care of themselves. And shanty towns,
favelas as you would have it in Brazil, to do work.
Adam Curry: You know where this is going to happen. First the
shanty towns. Alberta, Alberta. Listen to the Alberta migrants
are driving a population surge and Alberta is the fastest
growing province 98% of Canada's population growth over the last
year came from international migration. Let that sink in. I
love saying that. Let that sink in, soak it think and think
about it. Think about it soak in that for a moment match that 98%
of Canada's burst your bubble in Canada's population growth came
from international migration. Because Canadians I mean,
Americans are nice, we're nice guys, Canadians, you're so much
nicer and you're being taken advantage of the surge in
international migration is driving Canada's population
growth rate to its heights not seen in almost 70 years. And
Alberta is now growing faster than any province has seen since
records began like climate change.
John C Dvorak: The the growth rate news to me this is a good
one. The growth
Adam Curry: rate is the highest recorded in Canada since a 12
month period in 1957. Went hit 3.3% annually during the height
of the baby boom and the Hungarian refugee crowd ISIS,
close to 98% of that population growth can be attributed to net
migration, the number of non permanent residents has jumped
46% Mostly due to an increase in work and study permits. So
you're letting them in.
John C Dvorak: legislate them in a different way. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Yeah. So this, I mean, I, you know, people either
have to stand up and say, no,
John C Dvorak: they wish they're not doing. No one's doing it,
because
Adam Curry: we're all so nice. And we've been told all the
human traffic that there was some Republican lady went down
to the border plague a horrible story about women getting raped.
Yes, of course. It's horrible. But that's not the problem. We
need to stop it all. Stop. Everyone needs to stop it.
John C Dvorak: But you can't. You can't. Because if it's an
international, international controlled by everybody, this
Adam Curry: banks, banks, the famous New York banker, we win,
and lawmakers have no incentive to stop it because they get to
spend money. When there's more people, they love it. They're
writing laws, we're doing more laws, you got some more stuff.
When we got home, we have to set up camps, favelas. Where should
we have the favelas in America? I mean, they work? I'm with you
on that? Where do we set them up? Do we do that? And the
national parks?
John C Dvorak: No, you can't do that. That's the that's the
reason that National Parks story showed up is to is to that will
continue to show up as they Oh my god, they're gonna wreck our
parks. And you know, we have all these tree huggers that are part
of this culture that won't put up with it. So you're going to
have to find in Brazil, the irony of Brazil, I've
Adam Curry: first time I went there. You've been there. So you
can a lot talk about it. Yeah. But the irony
John C Dvorak: of Brazil was pointed out to me almost
immediately, because the Brazilians like to point it out
is that the best views and the best property that would be
worth a fortune is where the favelas are, especially in Rio.
There's one hill in Rio, that is all for velas. It's just a slum.
It's a slum. And it is, as somebody would point out, this
is where you want to see a view view to knock your socks off for
them. You go live in the favelas, because they gave them
all the view land and the best prime property.
Adam Curry: I have an idea. I have an idea for the United
States where we can build the favelas. Aspen,
John C Dvorak: Aspen would be good. Yeah, a little cold.
Adam Curry: used to it. After Chicago, they'll know. They'll
know what they're in for. It's disturbing. But everybody go to
the show notes under you'll see it replacement migration and get
that white paper, take a look at it, read through it. And you'll
see that this has been planned all the way through 2050. And
they're doing it instead of instead of the fact we've done
the exact opposite of stimulating population growth to
keep up with the aging population.
John C Dvorak: No, we're actually we're and sterilizing
kids sterilizing
Adam Curry: kids telling him you're scaring everybody with
climate change. Oh, you don't want any kids for climate
change. And why? Because in the in the infamous words of George
Carlin, they want obedient workers. That's what they want.
People who will shut up and do what they're told because
they're under TPS, temporary, permanent something. They're
allowed to stay for a while. But hey, stay in line. Do what we
tell you to do. That's what we're all we you're too mouthy.
We're too complicated. We have ideas of like running for
office. No, no, no. And let them vote. Let them vote. Let them
vote for us. Who keeps them in offices?
John C Dvorak: Thanks. What's it gonna change?
Adam Curry: What the vote no, it'll change nothing. They'll
shut down.
John C Dvorak: They'll change nothing. They'll
Adam Curry: vote though. No, but it gives everyone the illusion
on how's it they're good citizens. And there'll be
washing your car, shining your shoes, cooking your meals. And I
guess we just all want it. A lot of refers. Meanwhile, in
America, we don't really care about that. We're obsessed about
stuff like this.
Unknown: Taylor Swift has entered her football era.
If we play like this every time Taylor's inability and then she
needs to be here every week.
Swift made her fearless return to Kansas City's Arrowhead
Stadium which she sold out twice last summer to cheer on NFL
tight end. Travis Kelce.
I told her I've seen you rock the stage and arrowhead. You
might have to come see me rocket stage and erlaubt
wearing red of course next to Kelsey is mom Donna. The
reaction beyond the NFL wildest dreams.
Adam Curry: Travis Kelce has had a lot of big catches in his
career. This would be
John C Dvorak: the biggest
Unknown: the women's editions of it As Jersey are selling fast
online, the company behind Kelsey is outfit, capitalizing
calling it the 1989 and stores touting the New Balance shoes
she wore to the game. A hot commodity Swifties know all too
well, she's a mastermind of her business reputation. Her tour
alone expected to add an estimated $5 billion to the
global economy more than the GDP of at least 50 countries gotten
to the errors. And now her fans suddenly paying attention to the
NFL, and the players are ready for it.
Adam Curry: So troll war POTUS just rage quit out of the troll
room. Adam, now you lost a listener by but that's too bad
because the reason I played this was only a setup for a classic
no agenda clip. Which was a source from being at.io. As we
know, we you specifically identified the Taylor Swift
phenomenon very early on.
John C Dvorak: No, you're a decade ago.
Adam Curry: March 1 2009 14 years ago. No agenda episode 76.
Let's go back everybody and listen to what John discovered.
John C Dvorak: Was Taylor Swift.
Adam Curry: Taylor Swift.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is the new I don't know who was the one
that picks says okay, we're gonna make her a star. And they
find some growth. This is kind of a discovery cute looking,
puffy faced blonde, who is now a she's a singer. And she's been
on everything. She's on this show and that show and that she
was hot, you know, highlighted on Saturday Night Live, which is
rerun, but it was she was like, you know, first ran a couple of
weeks. Maybe a
Adam Curry: couple months on tree Country Girl country
singer.
John C Dvorak: I don't know. She seems kind of that kind of
middle of the road. Quasi yodeling lesbian sounding kind
of. But the problem is she doesn't have any range. She's
got no range at all. So she said she has just got to kind of a
flat voice with a very small, really narrow range and, and the
material is weak. So I'm watching her. And so so.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I know who she is. Yeah. Andrew Gromit.
John C Dvorak: Andrew grommet says, oh, you know, my wife and
my daughter are really into this girl named Taylor Swift. And I
mean, I don't know what he was going to tell me because then I
went off on him. Something about Taylor Swift, I guess but, but I
just it's just like, overnight, this just just just happens.
I've never seen anything like does she have a background? Has
she paid her dues? Has she been around forever singing the blues
and Memphis? I mean, what, you know, the next thing you know
she's there and she stinks. I should add to that, because I
remember this whole thing. I her dad was a superstar lawyer
Lynch. He was investment banker, right banker. That's
Adam Curry: what he was investment bank. He
John C Dvorak: moved the family to Memphis Yes. Where he picked
up a bunch of clients that were you know, looking to do
something with a lot of their money. And he had this daughter
named Taylor and he's gonna push her into the scene. And he did
and she B being in a family of smart money. She was a genius at
marketing and marketing herself in this whole thing with Travis
Kelce. I listened to a guide, listen to Sports Talk. These
people actually think this is a boyfriend girlfriend thing.
Nope. They are so stupid. This is such a setup for publicity.
And the giveaway to me was what after that game that she would
attended they will they walked together to some limos and as a
new boyfriend, girlfriend, two things that very observable, not
holding hands. And the second one is events you don't hold
hands with, with a promotional woman like her chair who's a
genius at this, she would have at least locked arms and gone
arm and arm to the limits because that's what you would do
if you're a boyfriend, girlfriend. That's what you
would do in the early stages. You're gonna lock arms, or hold
hands or, or even, you know, put his arm around the shoulder or
something. No, none of that. It was to business people walking
down together thinking about how much money they're gonna make.
Adam Curry: And here's the business end of it.
Unknown: Travis did you know you can get this season's COVID-19
shot when you get your flu shot? Oh,
two things at once. One, I'll have two things at once, please.
Now back to two things at once. Two things at once. No two
things at once. Travis asked about Getting this season's
COVID-19 shot when getting your flu shot.
Adam Curry: There it is. It's all transactional. And I think
the Kardashians actually saw what Taylor Swift and her family
did. And the machine because she she she has writers. She doesn't
just you know yodel herself you know she's she has writers who
have very skilled you know, and the whole industry look if you
have a decent song, you repeat it in the algo on Spotify five
times everybody it's a hit. That's how it works is very
simple. It's all transactional, the Kardashians went and that's
too bad my girl you know, what's your name? The mom the momager
just too bad. My girls have no talent. We'll just put them on
top of some basketball players. That's what she did. So now it's
worse. Yeah, it works
Unknown: we see more posts.
Adam Curry: That's right time for you. COVID Boost. CNN
leading the pack.
Unknown: New federal data is revealing a disturbing trend in
the recent increase in COVID 19 cases hospitalizations are
rising faster than average among children. SENIOR MEDICAL
CORRESPONDENT Meg Terrell is here with the details.
Are these hospitalizations in vaccinated and unvaccinated
children? Do we know?
Well, the vaccination rates among kids are extremely low,
particularly for kids under five, only 13% of those kids
have actually gotten any dose of COVID vaccine. So there's not a
lot of unity out there.
Adam Curry: This doesn't ring true at all. She's not answering
the question. She'll come around to it at the end. But the
question is, are these kids vaccinated or not? Well, you
know, it's very low. And this and you're bad parents from
Unknown: vaccination or from prior infection in that age
group. For teenagers, it's higher. And so you would expect
we haven't seen this specific data breaking it out, but that
most of the hospitalizations are an unvaccinated kids.
We have a sense. You talked about the vaccinations, how the
administration has handled kind of this latest wanna say wave
this spike, what's the terminology I should even use
here? But how the administration is operating in this moment?
Yeah, we are starting to hear that the White House, of course,
is watching this. And today, actually, they relaunched the
home COVID test program. So you can order for free tests per
household COVID test.gov. And experts say this is really
important, not just that you can prevent spread of COVID If you
think you might have it yourself to people who might be
vulnerable. But also because if you're in a high risk group,
treatment is actually available if you test positive for COVID.
And knowing sooner rather than later helps you actually get
those extra COVID
For example, you have to take pretty soon, right? Yeah, within
five days,
Adam Curry: within five days. Okay. So this is a study that
came out from Martin Luther University Hala Viton bear. This
is a very well known University. 500 year old research university
in Germany, found that people with the highest risk of long
COVID or post COVID condition were unvaccinated people
infected with the Wuhan variant. They also just as a sideline
tested to see if vaccinated people were better protected
against long COVID. And results say no, there's absolutely zero
chance that you will have, the less chance that you will have
long COVID Whatever that is, we still don't really know what it
is. If you're vaccinated, so it's it's the whole this is the
member of the CDC director, our new one Mandy Cohen said this.
Unknown: So what the vaccine can do is protect you from the worst
of what COVID is. But remember, the vaccine early data is
showing us it can also prevent you from getting long COVID It
decreases your risk of getting long COVID which is extended
symptoms from that COVID virus. So yes, protecting from the
worst but also protecting you from potential long term
symptoms from this virus even if you have a mild case.
Adam Curry: Okay, so it does not protect you from long COVID That
is the peer reviewed research a liar. Well, she's poorly
informed, which is bad for the CDC director or she's a liar.
But don't worry NBC to the rescue act
Unknown: now with rising concerns about COVID as we move
into the COVID was ASINs are up nearly 8% And beginning today,
free tests are once again available at COVID test.gov. And
for those suffering from long COVID A study just out is giving
new clues to identifying and possibly treating the mystery
condition. Here's Anne Thompson.
Cello is Joshua Romans pleasure in profession. Long COVID made
it tough for the virtuoso soloists to play lengthy pieces.
What kind of difference has long COVID Made in your career?
Adam Curry: Hey, go out and get me a human interest story on
long COVID Let's do something about long code. Make it
something everyone can feel kind of really bad. I mean, this is a
virtue. Oh, so
Unknown: long COVID has forced me to only do the most important
things
long COVID impacts X percent of adults according to the CDC,
symptoms include fatigue, brain fog and memory difficulties. Now
a new study offers clues about potential blood biomarkers.
We're seeing patterns. David Petrino is the lead researcher
on our study showed that
individuals with long COVID had significant and measurable
differences in their blood. And what were those differences?
These differences were a mixture of hormone dysfunction, immune
dysfunction, and reactivation of past viruses,
specifically, 50% lower levels of cortisol, the hormone that
makes you feel alert and awake T cell exhaustion in immune
systems, and dormant viruses like Epstein Barr and herpes
reemerging this isn't a simple illness. This is a complex
illness. The study examined the blood of 268 people, some who
recovered from COVID Some never infected, some with long COVID
like Roman who wants to not need reminders like this and have
total recall of the music he loves.
Adam Curry: All right, so I'm gonna set you up here, John,
because this is one of those instances where we both clipped
the same astounding discovery. Of course, none of this could be
from the vaccination itself, none of it whatsoever because
you crazy the vaccine protects you from the worst of COVID. Now
the reason I'm going to set you up is I actually clipped a lot
more shorter bits than you did you clipped three pieces or
three or four pieces. You have a you have a titled as COVID
virologist, which is incorrect. So I'm going to set you up with
my intro clip of professor. His name is Professor Buck halt. He
is from University of South Carolina. And he is not a
virologist, he he's gonna explain what he is in this. And
having watched this video, it's just the name of the clip. I
know him too. But I played your thank you One Hour Photo, okay,
oh, no
John C Dvorak: cleaners, or cleaners.
Adam Curry: I like this guy a lot. Because he has this very,
this this air of I know exactly what I'm talking about. But the
system is so lame and screwed up that I'm just going to tell you
guys and do with it what you want. And I like his demeanor.
I'll play the intro clip. And then you can play your clips. My
Unknown: name is Philip buckholts. I'm I have a PhD in
biochemistry and molecular biology. I'm a cancer gene jock.
Basically, I do cancer genomics research at the University of
South Carolina. And what that means is that I'm kind of an
expert on all the ways that the human genome can get flooded
with during your lifetime. And which of those things cause
cancer and which ones don't?
Adam Curry: Okay, I'll stop it there. And if if I feel there's
anything missing from your clips, we can play it later.
John C Dvorak: Well, basically, the guy did a little research
just on a screwball notion. And I think it's playing pretty
well. And clip number one
Unknown: in in my professional evaluation of the literature,
the Pfizer vaccine did a pretty good job of keeping people out
of the cemetery. But it sucked at stopping the pandemic. And it
was the best of sucky options that we had
Adam Curry: the guy remind me a little bit of a young meatloaf
by the way, did you catch any of that? Did you? Did you get that
vibe from him?
Unknown: No, none at all. Okay, and I still believe that it was
deployed, mostly in good faith. But there were a lot of
shortcuts taken because the house was on fire. And we could
do a better job next time. From the lessons that we're going to
learn here. That's my own personal view of this. But I'm
also my philosophical bent here is, I'm sure many of you have
heard of oxen awesomes razor, right, choose the simplest of
explanations. Well, there's another one called handlines
razor, which has never attribute malice to that which can be
better explained by incompetence. And so I'm trying
to be gracious here in many circumstances, there could be
malice underneath, but I'm trying to see just incompetence
to be gracious. And so the Pfizer vaccine is contaminated
with plasmid DNA. It's not just mRNA. It's got bits of DNA in
it. This DNA is the DNA vector that was used as the template
for the in vitro transcription reaction when they made the
mRNA. I know this is true because I sequenced it in my own
lab, the vials of Pfizer vaccine that were given out here in
Colombia. One of my colleagues was in charge of that
vaccination program in the College of Pharmacy. And for
reasons that I still don't understand. He kept every single
vial. So he had a whole freezer full of the empty vials. Well,
the empty vials have a little tiny bit. And in the bottom of
them, he gave them all to me. And I looked at him that we had
two batches that were given out here in Colombia. And I checked
these two batches, and I checked them by sequencing. And I
sequenced all the DNA that was in the vaccine and I can see
what's in there, and it's surprised Isn't that there's any
DNA in there. And you can kind of work out what it is and how
it got there. And I'm kind of alarmed about the possible
consequences of this.
Adam Curry: No, I don't know what your other clips are. So
I'll just let you continue.
John C Dvorak: So I would mention, if you remember our
show, during the swine flu era, of one of the swine flu
manufacturing companies actually had live swine flu viruses in
the vaccine, they were so careless with their
manufacturing, you remember this guy? Sure do. And it went out
and all kinds of people ended up with swine flu because of the
vaccine. And it was like, the problem is, and I think it's
kind of elucidated in this guy's presentation, even though he
never says this, the fact that they're, they're held harmless,
because they've been giving a leet, they've been giving the
green light, whatever you put in there, whatever, you're shooting
the people, you're you're not liable. Don't worry about it.
This is the problem. And that's why the what he claims is this
careless amount of DNA, which is the beginning part of this
system that made the RNA is still there, because the what's
the point, we can't get sued, it's just we just slop this
stuff out. Who cares? Crank it out, and wait, if it does damage
too bad.
Unknown: Here we go part two, both in terms of human health
and biology, but you should be alarmed about the regulatory
process that allowed it to get there. So this DNA in my view,
it could be causing some of the rare but serious side effects
like death from cardiac arrest, or there's a lot of cases now,
of people having suspicious death after a vaccine, it's hard
to prove what caused it is just, you know, temporarily
associated. And this DNA is a plausible mechanism, this DNA
can and likely will integrate into the genomic DNA of cells
that got transfected. With the vaccine mix. This is just the
way it works. We do this in the lab all the time, we take pieces
of DNA, we mix them up with a lipid complex, like the Pfizer
vaccine is and we pour it onto cells and, and a lot of it gets
into the cells. And a lot of it gets into the DNA of those
cells, and it becomes a permanent fixture of the cell.
It's not just a temporary, a temporary thing it is in that
cell and all of its progeny from now on forevermore. Amen. So
that's why I'm kind of alarmed about this DNA being in the
vaccine, it's, it's, it's different from RNA because it
can be permanent. This is a real hazard for genome modification
of Long live somatic cells like stem cells. And it could cause
theoretically, this is all a theoretical concern, but it's
pretty reasonable based on solid molecular biology, that it could
cause a sustained autoimmune attack toward that tissue. It's
also a very real theoretical risk of future cancer in some
people, depending on where in the genome, this foreign piece
of DNA lands, it can interrupt a tumor suppressor or activate an
oncogene. I think it'll be rare, but I think the risk is not
zero. And it may be high enough that we are to figure out if
this is happening or not.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the idea being if you're getting foreign DNA
mixed into your body, it's with you forever, including your kids
and your grandkids and could be going on for generations.
John C Dvorak: So this is a this Chris, he's speaking to I think
the state legislature as in they're like, well, we can't
wait we supposed to do about it. i There's other stuff, there's
more detail that he goes into, but I just wanted to wrap it
with the third clip, which is his kind of a summary of what we
have to do. And the main thing is the obvious, which is clean
these, these vaccines up and he then talks about how he thinks
this platform platform is great. Which means which makes me think
he's pretty objective about this, get the DNA
Unknown: out of the booster, and all future versions of this
vaccine. I'm a real fan of this platform. Okay. I think it has
the potential to treat cancers. I really believe that this
platform is revolutionary. And in your lifetime, there will be
the mRNA vaccines against antigens in your unique cancer.
Okay, and but they gotta get this problem fixed. Okay. And I
right now, I think the financial incentives are too great to just
keep on rolling with it.
Adam Curry: I wanted to add two things to this because he went
into a lot of different things. The first one is when this first
came out, we were told over and over and over again, no you
conspiracy theorists No, there's no does not DNA. It's mRNA. It's
not DNA. It's mRNA. A little
Unknown: nerdy science here the central dogma of molecular
Biology is that DNA gets transcribed into RNA, okay. And
then RNA gets translated into protein. This is just how life
runs. Why does this matter? Well, DNA for the purposes of
this discussion, DNA is a long lived information storage
device. Okay, what you were born with, you're gonna die with and
pass on to your kids. DNA lasts for hundreds of 1000s of years.
And it can last for generations if you pass it on to your kids.
Right? So alterations to the DNA, they stick around. RNA by
its nature is temporary. It doesn't last. And that feature
of RNA was part of the sales pitch for the vaccine.
Adam Curry: There it is, it was part of the sales pitch wasn't
DNA was mRNA.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but there were right. The mRNA is what is
supposed to be in this shot, the D, the D, the DNA in there is
just a because it's careless, sloppy,
Adam Curry: well, not entirely, it's a little a little
different. And this is, I think, the killer clip,
Unknown: the way you do RNA transcription in vitro
transcription reactions, you have to give it a DNA template,
okay. And you can give it a DNA template that is just a
synthetic piece of DNA, that is only the instructions to make
the RNA. And that's what was done for getting the emergency
use authorization and the clinical trial. That's called
process one, if you look up that kind of stuff. They made a PCR
product of just the bits that they wanted. And then they did
the in vitro transcription and made a bunch of RNA that there
was no plasmid DNA to contaminate the stuff that was
used for the trial. But that, that making that PCR product
doesn't scale, the way that was necessary to vaccinate the whole
world. So a cheaper way to scale up the production of this
template is to clone that PCR product into this plasmid vector
that the plasmid vector into bacteria, and then grow up big
vats of bacteria. They make a lot of the plasmid DNA for you
then use that plasmid DNA as the template to drive this
transcription reaction to make your RNA. And that's where how
the contamination ended up in the production batches, even
though it was not in the stuff that was used for the
authorization trials.
John C Dvorak: That's that's, again, again, it was
contamination. Yeah, no, of
Adam Curry: course it was. But the reason why is the vaccine
might have been safer or completely safe for the
emergency youth or use authorization. But then when
they went into production, they did it a different way. And that
code goes back to what you just
John C Dvorak: said to lab versus field stuff. And then why
blew up out here,
Adam Curry: don't worry about it's all good. Not a problem.
And the end I don't have I'm not gonna play clip at the end. The
only other thing was interesting that he said, is that he tested
multiple batches of Pfizer, and he says Maderna had much less
DNA and what they had done is they tried to get rid of the DNA
by slicing it slicing it slicing and just left a lot of bits in
there but by his by his own testimony, it doesn't matter how
much is in there as long as it's in there it through the lipo
lipo lipid, lipid nanoparticles, it will fuse with your own DNA
even if it's just a little bit he talked about buckshot doesn't
really matter. But he said some doses had much lower DNA amounts
in it with so technically less chance that you'd get it and
some had much more very high. And that might explain the
stories we've seen about certain people who got certain batches
having more adverse events. That was my takeaway from what he was
saying. So this to me, this is this is a very big deal. Yeah, I
thought so. And they and heads should roll. Death is gonna
happen
nothing's gonna happen. Oh, no.
John C Dvorak: He says he says we're on the topic. Since
nothing's gonna happen. You might as well play Fauci in the
CIA. Oh, yeah. And about this
Unknown: is gonna happen. Dr. Anthony Fauci is now accused of
secretly visiting the CIA's headquarters during the
pandemic, where he allegedly tried to influence the agency's
official findings in their investigation into the origins
of the pandemic. That's according to US Representative
from Ohio Brad wenstrup, the chairman of the House Select
Subcommittee on the Coronavirus pandemic, who described the
concerning information in a letter he sent to the inspector
general of the Department of Health and Human Services.
Earlier I spoke with physician and former US ambassador Dr.
Jeff Gunter. He's also currently running for the US Senate in
Nevada, Dr. Gunther, great to have you on our show. Thanks so
much for coming on as a doc Sir and an experienced diplomat. How
do you view the allegations that Dr. Anthony Fauci attempted to
influence the CIA's investigation into the origins
of COVID-19?
I don't give a solution or an answer, just like Yogi Berra did
the famous baseball coach. It's deja vu all over again. None of
this is particularly surprising to me. During my medical school
years, I was cutting my teeth during HIV from 83 to 87. I
remember Dr. Fauci then, when I was heading up the US Embassy.
Thanks to our great President Donald Trump, I let the team
know that I believed that this virus came from a bat to a
bottle and somehow got out of the lab back then. Then when I
read the emails of various scientists going and talking to
Fauci before he published that Article of the proximal origins
of COVID. In nature, one of the premier journals, which clearly
now was a misdirection of the American public, it's not
surprising, it's Fauci, deja vu all over again, it's sad, it's
disheartening. The American public deserves a need to know
the truth about the worst pandemic the world has ever
seen.
Adam Curry: So also, it's like, and nothing will happen. Yes.
Nothing will happen. Yeah. It's just another story to be
subjugated. Or another story for this show averted by Taylor
Swift news.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah, there's
Adam Curry: a second clip gotta get worse.
Unknown: View. Are there any indications of political or
national security motives behind the alleged suppression of the
lab leak theory by public health authorities?
It's a fantastic question that we all know that when you mix
medicine, with politics, what do you get? You get politics. It
was so obvious when it happened. When COVID came out to me that
it was a lab leaked and turns out that it was being funded by
Fauci So absolutely, absolutely. They're trying to craft the
narrative. More people died with COVID with Joe Biden than they
did with President Trump.
Adam Curry: I love the died with COVID Doesn't mean you died of
COVID. But you had COVID.
Unknown: The jury's still out on the effectiveness of vaccines.
They say that it limits hospitalizations, and severe
illness. There's no evidence to show that it makes you less
infectious to the other people. I just checked the CDC
hospitalizations for COVID right now in Nevada, they're not
significantly high. deaths are down. So what does that tell
you? It tells you that there's an election coming up, it tells
you that when you mix politics with medicine, especially with
this administration, you get politics.
Adam Curry: All right. I'll try and top it before we take a
break. Well, I
John C Dvorak: have two more clips. About this about COVID.
Three more COVID clips actually, I loaded up on COVID Today your
Adam Curry: it dude you're you're seething with COVID.
John C Dvorak: But these are historical clips. Okay, these
are from 2021.
Adam Curry: We love that
John C Dvorak: when the Delta was just coming out, and they
were arguing about what to do about the shot and delta and
Adam Curry: the delta delta variant. Yes, the Delta verta
Delta
John C Dvorak: variant and it was they were besides themselves
and all kinds of different ways. They were tying themselves into
knots over the Delta because it was creating something if you
remember, this word is a term that we forgot. Breakthrough.
Adam Curry: Oh, breakthrough infection. Yes, yes. It broke
through the vaccination. You got
John C Dvorak: a vaccine, you got your booster, you got your
second shot, you got your booster, and then you got COVID,
which everybody seems to have got done. And that at the time,
the first time he started to show up these were called
breakthroughs. Yeah, and it was disconcerning Oh, my God have
another breakthrough. And then eventually, they stopped using
the word because it was meaningless because everybody
got the shot, they got COVID. So let's play a couple of these
historic clips from 2021.
Unknown: More of the modified mRNA technology behind Maderna
and Pfizer's COVID vaccines is how easy it is to update. All
you have to do is reprogram a string of genetic
Adam Curry: code and voila. Update just like Windows 11
could make
Unknown: a new vaccine tailored to fight dangerous new strains
of the virus. But the booster shots that the White House wants
to roll out next month likely will not be re engineered
against the ultra contagious Delta very ultra contemplatively
urs Angus Chen joined Bob oaks to talk about why and he started
by explaining how the technology works.
The mRNA base vaccines from Pfizer and Madonna and also the
Johnson Johnson DNA base vaccine all contain a string of genetic
code based on the original coronaviruses mycoprotein. Our
cells use that code To make this by protein, and then they build
immune molecules that can neutralize it. The thing is,
this string of code is easily reprogrammed. So vaccine makers
can rewrite it and make it based on the Delta genetics or any
other variant you might want to counter. It's also not a big
deal for the manufacturing side, because you don't really have to
change what you're doing to make that updated vaccine.
So if it's that straightforward, Angus, how come the booster
shots are unlikely to be updated?
Well, I spoke with the Harvard I mean, I'll just Dr. Dan Baruch,
about this. And he said, updating the vaccine should
theoretically provide better protection against Delta. But in
reality, it probably wouldn't make a big difference. And
that's because delta isn't that different from the ancestral
Coronavirus and its physical shape and form. So the
antibodies from the original vaccine should still work
against it. Dr. Brooke thinks there's another reason why delta
is causing cases among vaccinated people.
Adam Curry: Wow, they've been so good. You're doing this because
it's good to remember how they've been lying for years
years on end
John C Dvorak: and coming out licking themselves.
Adam Curry: No, I think me I'm throwing some Taylor Swift news.
People forget. And they want to forget we've been so traumatized
by this. I think people are twitching, just listening to
these clips.
John C Dvorak: I like again, I'll go back to I don't think
they're lying. I think they're dead, sincere and stupid.
Adam Curry: Well, yes, dummies abound. Dr. Brown
John C Dvorak: means no money. No continue Part Two long clips.
Unknown: long one.
Dr. Baruch thinks there's another reason why delta is
causing cases among vaccinated people.
The increased breakthroughs with the Delta variant is probably
more related to its hyper infectiousness rather than its
intrinsic ability to evade
Adam Curry: antibodies. The breakthrough
Unknown: basically, when you're infected with a Delta variant,
you end up breathing out a lot more virus than you would have
the old virus, it's a lot more transported in the mass stop
that dismissible as well and guess people are both more
likely to be exposed to it and be exposed to more of it.
There's even a small benefit from using an updated vaccine as
a booster than why shouldn't it be developed? And why shouldn't
we take it?
Part of the issue is right now there are millions of vaccine
doses in storage across Yeah, they are effective against the
Delta variance while stocks last especially when it comes to
preventing severe illness or death in general right now, and
might drop public faith in those doses, which concerns Dr.
Benjamin Linus, he's an epidemiologist at Boston
University stop
John C Dvorak: a second, you gotta hit what he just said was,
well, there was a lot of inventory left. And then if we
don't give that as the cure for delta two, it will make people
lose confidence in that early shot. Because because it's not
good enough, and then the inventory, our shoes will go the
inventory and people are going to lose confidence. And that's
going to make it even slower to get their first shot. And yeah,
we can like this. Like, it's like they're running a game on
the public, you
Adam Curry: don't want to sell the new Yeezys until the old
ones are off the shelf.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you gotta get this marketing 101.
Unknown: I don't know what message it would give if they
said, Oh, we have a new highly specially engineered vaccine for
Delta. Does that generate concern that the original
vaccine didn't work against delta, which is absolutely not
true.
Adam Curry: And I want to remind people, I think we were pretty
much doing this deconstruction when it was taking place. That's
why we still get notes from people saying, Man, I'm glad I
was listening to you guys. Because we were breaking this
marketing story down continuously.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, these are our old clips.
Unknown: Linus and other health experts I spoke with said the
goal right now is really to vaccinate as many people as we
can, in the United States and in the rest of the world, using a
vaccine that still works is a better way to do that than
waiting for an incremental gain and efficacy that we might get
from an updated vaccine. When Angus,
don't you think that any COVID booster shot updated or not, is
going to be greeted with skepticism from some members of
the public reluctant to take it
Adam Curry: perhaps those pesky podcasters might be all over
this marketing scam?
Unknown: Yeah, it's definitely possible. I mean, vaccine
skepticism has been something that is what's grown has been
going on for quite some time. Oh, yeah. podcasters. I don't
think a booster shot is going to change that or do anything to
really fix that. I think what a booster shot does do is it helps
people who might really need that extra protection to stay
safe against a Delta variant. I think what's a more important
question when it comes to booster shots is whether or not
the shots would be better put to use by sending them, you know,
around the world or around the country to people who are
unvaccinated and want to be vaccinated but haven't had the
access or the ability to do that yet. And I think that's
something that public health experts and officials are going
to continue to grapple with in Think about for some time.
That's WBUR is Angus Chen speaking with Bobux
Adam Curry: Oost. All right. Can I Are you done?
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna be done. Yeah, I have one more
thing that did. Similar but it's about the ivermectin bowl crap
and I'm going to leave that. Save that for another show.
Adam Curry: Good before we take this break. I think I figured
out the F 35. Ejection up. I'm calling an OP now to be so what
we know is the pilot was very experienced. He was one of the
top top pilots.
John C Dvorak: I know this if you're gonna do an OP, you want
your top men?
Adam Curry: Of course you do.
John C Dvorak: You know what some slouches is going to screw
it up.
Adam Curry: Right? So he injects the plane continues to fly until
it crashes back and we heard all the things I was on autopilot.
We had that cool guy. I mean, I at this point, I'm pretty sure
that the the witness the eyewitness who saw this guy this
that he may not have been paid for but he was in on it. He
would maybe not knowingly shill the ship was he was the shill.
So the thing that bothered me the most on the last episode was
the 911 call. It's like why are you why are you not calling HQ.
Now some of the jet jocks who I talked to said, Well, he was
kind of the top guy, so maybe he would have had to call himself
I'm not quite buying that. But we did get confirmation from a
9911 call taker dispatcher says having listened to the reported
911 Call from F 35 pod who objected? I believe it to be a
legitimate recording of the incident and I put the this
anonymous 911 dispatchers.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I raised that. Yeah, it's okay. I legit
so sounds legit.
Adam Curry: Sounds legit. But this reminded another one of our
F jet jocks have a scene from Top Gun two. And the scene in
Top Gun two is Tom Cruise has now rejected from this
experimental aircraft. Sound familiar? And he doesn't call
911. But to make it a little funnier. He walks into this HC
diner. Here he is. He's walking in. The bell was ringing. He
points and he's looking all haggard. And all blowed up. And
he's asking for a glass of water. And you know, it's just a
dine all the people are looking at him like where did this guy
come from in his spacesuit? days drinking his water. Where am I?
And the little kid says you're on Earth thinking he's a
spaceman. So that would be the equivalent of the 911 call.
totally unbelievable that you walk into a diner and with your
spacesuit on and you're all dirty from ejection and you know
from explosion, and you're there give me some water and where am
I Earth? The next scene. The very next scene. He is in with I
think was paid, played by was named Edie. Whatever he's he's
the commander. And he's berating Tom Cruise. He's saying what is
going on with you? You have all these commendations. You should
have been a senator or an admiral bribe right now. Why are
you still doing this? Why are you a captain?
Unknown: You should be at least a two star Admiral by now. If
not a senator.
Yeah, here you our
captain Blaze. It's one of life's mysteries, sir. This
isn't a joke. I asked you a question. Sir. Well, the Navy
doesn't see it that way. Not anymore.
These planes you've been testing captain. One day sooner than
later. They won't need pilots at all. pilots need to sleep. He
take a purse. Pilots that disobey orders. All you did was
buy some time for those men out there. The future is coming. And
you're not in it.
Adam Curry: I believe this to be a script. To let people know
that the biggest problem the plane wasn't the problem. It was
the loser pilot. And the military industrial complex is
going to come out with something sooner or later to let us know
that you know, we really don't need pilots anymore. We have the
new F 35. No, it doesn't need a pilot. I think This was life
imitates art.
John C Dvorak: It's an interesting theory. I know,
You've been bitching and moaning for probably 10 years about the
pilotless airplane this plane.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Hey, if the F 35 pilot can't even keep it
going, I mean, we shouldn't have those guys. We should not you
are not in the future of aviation. So I don't know. I
just ran it by the F guys and they all like, you know, they've
been they've been trying to get to this for a long time.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
Adam Curry: it is a goal. So we'll see. There's no
John C Dvorak: other member the one time I was sad, I was sad. I
think it was Nellis in Vegas. I was getting a tour. And they
were proud of they had these drones they're just on display
and they went on and on about how great this drones were
because yeah, I took took the red flag course whatever it was
called, I got the sit in. And it the drones are better because
there's no you're not going to kill these. Do these pilots. You
put a lot of money into one of these guys and he gets killed it
that's money down the drain.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's annoying.
John C Dvorak: It's annoying, very pious, not too happy.
Adam Curry: With that, I want to thank you for your currency in
the morning to you the man who put the seeds in Fauci in the
CIA ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other
end the one and only name on the ball Mr. Johnson
John C Dvorak: Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam curry.
Also in the morning airship see boots to the ground feed near
subs in the water and over Dames and nights out there. And in the
Adam Curry: morning patrols in the troll room, sir bemrose
stopped doing that. People are trying to count the trolls
before it's time to count the trolls. I already counted the
trolls. We had 1925 before we would have taken our break.
Don't do that. Let me count them.
So we have what is the count at this moment is 1862. But it was
1925 10 minutes ago.
John C Dvorak: That is 62 is the average.
Adam Curry: But it was above it was above that average,
John C Dvorak: but it probably was always above it.
Adam Curry: But you know, it has to sit there like oh, I can
count the drawers. I've got the power. And he ruins the whole
count. It's like telling offline. Yeah, don't do that
Heisenberg
John C Dvorak: Principle.
Adam Curry: Okay, now he's repenting. I'm sorry, I scared a
bunch of them off. Yeah, you did. Hey, those trolls are in
the troll room troll. room.io This is where you can listen to
the show live on Thursdays and Sundays. But it's 24 hours a
day. And there's always a good podcast on no agenda. stream.com
It's all talk no commercials. Actually, it's not all talk
because we have Darren Oh, who does the rock'n'roll priests pre
show before every no agenda for two hours. It's where everybody
hangs out. And you go to the troll room. There's always
people sitting around hanging out. Sometimes they're listening
to the show. Sometimes they're not. But during this show they
are and they're they're trolling around doing all kinds of
trollee stuff. Some of them even rage quitting. That's what
trolls do. Now, you
John C Dvorak: could also follow the Taylor Swift Yeah,
Adam Curry: you just lost a listener, man. So let's make
sure we're Polonius. Never.
John C Dvorak: I was actually surprised we did the store. I
mean, I was prepared for it because I because of that. My
mention of them not walking out holding hands was they were
really,
Adam Curry: it was a genius segway I took us from from a
classic clip right into COVID. Come on. That was programming.
John C Dvorak: He would love to be complimented.
Adam Curry: No, I don't. I'm complimenting myself. I don't
need any help from you.
John C Dvorak: But that's true. You don't need any help. You
don't need to be complimented. But if you feel like
Adam Curry: it, I mean, do whatever you want. It's all good
by me. You can also follow us on our Mastodon instance, which is
quite private, since we've been blocked by everybody else and
John C Dvorak: everybody. Every other Mastodon instance thinks
we suck.
Adam Curry: Do whatever you want. We're bad. It's all good.
You can follow Jhansi DeVore I could no agenda social.com Adam
at no agenda social.com. And we're always there kind of
hanging out seeing what's going on and posting stuff and getting
stories. Sometimes you guys have good stories. And the memes are
down. It's good. No more No more memes. I'm happy about this.
John C Dvorak: I'm not happy.
Adam Curry: This is a value for value. Podcast. We came up with
the name we invented the concept. We discovered quite by
accident almost 16 years ago that asking asking people to
subscribe for premium content or just some low number which does
not represent the amount of work that goes into it the value It's
only going to be a few people anyway, it's only three 4%. So
you might as well say, Hey, what is it worth to you? And we were
surprised when we saw that thing, certainly during COVID
When people like, well, you know, my life was worth quite a
lot. Thanks. Appreciate that. I'm gonna give you more than
five bucks. And that's how we've been running it. And we'll be
celebrating 16 years coming up in October, around October, I
think the end of October the 20th or something?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, at the very beginning, we were suckered by
the notion that if Joey didn't blame you didn't last long.
Which was the idea that well, if you're going to, you know, I
think we had, I don't know how many 1000 people probably 50.
Maybe at the most Yeah. But if you had 50,000 people, and they
all gave two bucks,
Adam Curry: we were not we were driving Lambos $1,000 a month,
in our mind, we had Lambos.
John C Dvorak: That's a lot of money if you know, and two bucks
is cheap. So the 50,000 people would say, oh, it's only two
bucks. So I'm going to as if 50,000 People are going to pay
two bucks, 10 bucks, no buy depth, no bucks, that they'll do
that. No, no, it's not even close to possible. And then we
started noticing that people would giving their favorite
numbers, they were just making up numbers numerology was some
stories involved on this number, you know this, and that means to
this to that to my wife, or whatever. And we realized that
open ended is the way to do it. Yeah. And forget these little,
you know, the idea that everyone's going to chip in
because they don't know never will.
Adam Curry: You know what's interesting, I've been I've
course follow the the slow collapse of the podcast,
industrial complex kit, your favorite thing to do? Yes. And
so potremmo is a Swedish company. And they raised a lot
of venture capital, like 160 million euros, and they've gone
all around Europe, and they're buying up all the podcasts,
buying up all the podcasts, and putting them behind the paywall.
And so now there's a problem. And the problem so they get see
the problem already? Well, well, problem one is, so they had to
convert a number of people from the free podcast, they're not
free, but open and available with ads or whatever they were
doing, or No, I don't know what they're doing to pay money. So I
think that they literally are doing five euros a month for
their entire offering. But now they can't get any new people
in. Because they have no product that is open.
John C Dvorak: It's not discoverable Exactly. Ever
ability is the top thing you need, especially in new media.
Adam Curry: Exactly. And so they have to do like in person
appearances and set up a tent and do the show from a from a
market, a market square. And then to get people interested in
the show, you can't you can't get in, of course, they only got
maybe 5% of the people went from, from you know, hey, this
is a cool product or listen to an ad or I don't think anyone
was doing value for value to five euros a month, which by the
way is the first thing to go. When things get tight. You with
us? It's like people come and go, like I'm in it and then I
don't listen for a while man overboard. And then oh man, I
really feel nervous. I don't I feel jittery. I gotta listen to
no agenda and get get a fix. And then people come back, you know,
give give back the value when you feel like it when you're
ready for it.
John C Dvorak: However, a lot of people that haven't come back
from what I can tell.
Adam Curry: Now they come back. A lot of people come back. They
do.
John C Dvorak: Or anonymous lesbian.
Adam Curry: Ghost that was that was your handler? I don't know.
She was your contact.
John C Dvorak: She moved to New York. Now there. Well. Now
there's your answer, isn't it? That is the answer. Surrounded
by the milieu. Yeah, the milieu is more powerful than the show.
Adam Curry: So we only ask for value to be returned. Whenever
you feel that you've received enough value and how you do it
is up to you. We do have three categories time, talent, and
treasure. And we have a lot of people putting in a lot of time,
you know, writing us reports and corresponding with us, going out
hitting people in the mouth, or organizing meetups. There's lots
of things you can do with your time talent is fantastic when
you see what the artists are doing, especially since i i was
moaning about the use of AI. But the artists have finally come
back and started to do stuff by hand and it with it with their
tools not relying on the crutch of a copying machine to do stuff
that makes it all look very pretty, but makes everything
subsequently boringly pretty and they're like drones like
non-playing characters in a row. And Paul couture artists number
one number one on the on the no agenda Art Generator. He nailed
it. He had such a great piece. Now we did it. We did have some
discussion about things. We looked at a number of pieces.
But this cautiousness episode may cause sudden death. I think
we I think was good at warned people can make a lot of people
who said, Hey, man, I'm not dead, but it really freaked my
dog out. Or hey, man, I have a headache now because of that
tone that you played. Apparently, no, no one died. No
one died.
John C Dvorak: And no one got a headache from it. No one said he
got a headache. They said
Adam Curry: he said he got a headache. And it was it was a
cool looking piece of high frequencies. It had the little
antenna there was it was a fun little warning sticker. Yeah.
And
John C Dvorak: it was different. It was totally alien to what
we'd normally been doing. Yeah. Which is why we want some
variety in this. This is extreme variety. is a sign that kind of
sign that you go to a sign maker. Do highway signs.
Adam Curry: Exactly. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: And then this is very different.
Adam Curry: That you'd like the melon girl which I'm sure you
use in the newsletter. Use the the melon grow, which I
understand why you'd like that piece.
John C Dvorak: That's a good piece. It's a girl holding a
melon. Yes. What more did you want from a piece? This is
really Oh, eight on the melon.
Adam Curry: We looked at the human mulch from damage that can
happen. Yeah, but you know what? It wasn't an AI piece. That's
what I liked. Like Oh, thanks. You did some work. It just
wasn't what we wanted didn't quite work. Damn Kenny Ben also
did the Chicago tent. I think the the clown part is what
didn't make that one work. Because you know, we know who he
is. Remember because this was based on the base camp tents in
Chicago with with the asylum seekers. And she made a circus
tent like a
John C Dvorak: Chicago on it. Yeah, it does say Chicago on it.
Tent City. Doesn't say you said what doesn't work to clown
there's no clown.
Adam Curry: It was a circus tent like clown world type type deal.
To me. It was confusing. It didn't quite show.
John C Dvorak: Oh no, it didn't work at all.
Adam Curry: Thanks. That's what I'm trying to say it didn't
work. You lie. You
John C Dvorak: have a new guy that obviously showed up. pet
rocks or pet racks who did put our pictures on the save you?
That's an automatic? No. So forget it. Yeah, we don't we
stopped doing that and show 200 I think yeah, the first year of
have no agenda art. Yeah, it became Nasher when Randy Asher
and Paul couture were doing it pretty much by themselves. It
was nothing but pictures of us
Adam Curry: in general. We don't like pictures of people. I mean,
really, generally some and certainly not politicians. I can
already see. You know, someone's done. Justin Trudeau is Hitler.
It's just not Not gonna happen.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And it's and it's that's a cliche. Yeah.
Adam Curry: You'd like the Burma Shave, which was from Parker
Polly.
John C Dvorak: It would have been better if it had some punch
line. At the end, it didn't have a punch line. Exactly. It would
have said something something something no agenda be the way
that model should be. I also like to train No, but that's
just a pure evergreen piece in probably does have some AI in
it.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's pretty. It's pretty piece that is
definitely an evergreen networks, of course,
professionals. But just looking at the overview. You can see
John C Dvorak: it was a good selection. Yeah. And I thought
there were at least three or four pieces we could have used
now scroll,
Adam Curry: scroll down, like to the almost to the bottom of that
page and go look at the submissions for 1591. And that's
and you see the difference. Everything AI on that page. And
it's been becomes boring. You know, and when people use their,
their, their God given
John C Dvorak: 5091 Is the selection sucks.
Adam Curry: Yeah. If although everything's pretty and
everything's you know, I
John C Dvorak: don't even think that's true. Looking back at it.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: But and this is this is this is the danger. Well, I
have some I have some fun AI stuff we can talk about later.
We can fight over it. But thank you very much, Sir Paul couture,
who of course also runs and has set up and run for my goodness,
how many years now? The the Art Generator. And how many years
I've been running this but well over 12 years, I would say no
agenda art generator.com You can see all of these pieces of art
at at norgine Art generator.com Or get a modern podcast app.
You'll need it eventually. Don't worry, etc. Google podcast shut
down.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, that was expected. Yeah. Yeah,
Adam Curry: they like everything shutting down.
John C Dvorak: Well, they Google does that routinely. They take
something and it's just somebody goes over the numbers as well.
Where are we? Why are we doing this? And now they're gonna well
maybe it's good. I'd say it was a good idea to time as a loss
leader, he gets people like us. Nah, screw it, shut it down move
it to this
Adam Curry: was like reader. They also don't like RSS because
it's open, freely available distributed. And so now they're
now they're like, can we be more like apple? No like Spotify
because now they're moving the podcasts into YouTube music. And
here's what that's telling podcasters Yeah, man, you will
ingest your RSS feed. So they just want you to upload to the
yet to them to YouTube so that they can you know, sell ads and
give you nothing or whatever it is they do. So don't do that.
Don't be like, don't be like YouTube and Google, go to
podcast. app.com got a modern podcast app, you won't regret
it. From the treasurer category. We want to thank our executive
and Associate Executive producers who have supported us
today and we see right off the bat this must be an instant
night you have the note William rollin from Spokane, Washington
with a cool grand John what does he say?
John C Dvorak: This is a double award request. He starts off ITM
the enclosed $1,000 Check is for my wife's Dame hood and I think
Jays got her on there. But double check if you want to be
awarded posthumously as she died of liver cancer on July 9.
Adam Curry: Oh my goodness. That's terrible. Yes. Yeah, we
John C Dvorak: had discussed Dame hood in previous months and
she wanted to be called Dame a puma. of the Eastern Washington
chasms. She would like shrimp and grits at the round table and
love the F cancer in any Sharpton jingle. Maybe we can
accommodate that in a minute. For myself. It seems to $1,000
threshold for me passed unnoticed last year. See
accounting below. I wish to be knighted, sir Tigger, max of the
Inslee, Eastern Washington archipelago. Okay, I request I
request White Castle hamburgers. And Kirkland Bordeaux at the
roundtable. No jingles no karma for me. A shout out to Sir
Donald of the fire bottles who hit us in the mouth. Oh, there
you go. He's in Spokane. He hit us in the mouth in 2017. And
William Rowland is in Spokane Valley along with Sir Donald and
sorry for your loss. And thank you a lot for this. This note
and donation. Yes.
Adam Curry: And we have both of you on the list for Nate for
night and Daming. And it was Kirkland Chardonnay. Was that
the No no, the Kirkland Bordeaux Bordeaux I'm sorry. Because
Bordeaux Okay, all right. Yes, we have that went to play the
full respect for for your NDF cancer and the F camps or for
your posthumous date getting lunch at AAA
Unknown: the tortoise in the race, Kim Kardashian Weaver, ESP
IICT they are all Jide ESP ICT there's no real conference with
this we must resist we must we must and we will much about that
Adam Curry: you've got karma and well you might as well do this
next one is to double up karma but this is a totally for you to
read. Oh is it?
John C Dvorak: Yeah. This I just have the Brooklyn New York I
don't have anything is it says 3333
Adam Curry: What is the name?
John C Dvorak: Oh you mean from total metal. And brooklyn new
york total metal resource Inc. That's the place to go if you
have any metal needs 333 33 It's got karma Robin good business
total metal resource
Adam Curry: Inc. Now if you need some metal you know where to go.
You need some metal you might need some metal. Christopher
Devon is in Brooklyn, New York. Hey, they should visit Hey
Chris, if he needs some metal it's in your hood man. Please
give me jobs Carmen been out of work since May 1. Please call
out Australian Brian of Hell's Kitchen. And Greg the socialite
from Connecticut as D bag. Give him both a D bag. Could you also
both get them to to the head twice. There's consequences of
being D bags Okay,
John C Dvorak: using a lot of ammo
Adam Curry: yeah wasting ammo
John C Dvorak: so here we go now we've already we've already gone
to Associate Executive Producer here and that one went fast.
That was quick to Ramsey Kane shows up from Brookfield
Wisconsin no stranger so
Adam Curry: no stranger. Didn't he used to do the CDs? No
agenda? Yes, he
John C Dvorak: was a CD guy. Yeah, he had a lot he was he
still has I still chat with him once in a while. 23456 So Ramsey
Kane here with Eagan. direct.com that's e gun. direct.com What is
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Price. PS John, we got the snail farm up and running. Thanks for
the advice.
Adam Curry: Oh, what advice did you give him?
John C Dvorak: Probably start a snail farm is gotta go
Adam Curry: maybe a business of the future.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Hey, it's good stuff.
Adam Curry: Sir. Neil's den Ollie shake is in Breda the
Netherlands. 232 3333 ITM sir. Neilston Ollie shake from the
great Berg gondek state of Brabant here, my smokin hot pre
milk is pregnant with our cute little human resource for 33
weeks. Can I have an L g y karma for my girls? No agenda equals
outstanding. How do you've got karma?
John C Dvorak: Oh, you have SD G in Oakland California. tu tu tu
tu tu a row of ducks. But first ones, but no note so a double up
karma will work.
Adam Curry: You've got karma. Sir Jeremy John Patti Oakville,
Ontario, Canada. That row of ducks to 2222 wants to stay safe
as a jingle in the morning, gents. I leave today a day
before my 61st birthday on birthday on the 29th for a four
week motorcycle trip of the Iberian Peninsula, please Oh,
that'd be fun. Yes. And flesh it
John C Dvorak: out for wild pigs.
Adam Curry: Is that Is it rampant on the Iberian
Peninsula? Oh,
John C Dvorak: no. And that's where they grow a lot of pigs.
Please accept this
Adam Curry: donation and keep up the excellent media
deconstruction during my absence. It's unlikely I'll be
able to listen until my return. Sir Jeremy Tom potty. Oakville,
Ontario, Canada Navia. Will you please send in a donation when
you're back? And let us know that you're saying hey, go.
John C Dvorak: Joe Clemens is in Anna Texas. Two, two 2.17. First
time donor long time blah, blah, blah. I have listened since show
number one or before the daily source code please de douche me.
You use deed deuced isn't a long wait. Yeah, to donate.
Adam Curry: That 16 years. Well, thank you for sending the value.
We appreciate it.
John C Dvorak: whatever it's worth, the donation is actually
17 I guess the donation is in honor of my daughter Natalie
Clemens, who passed away on another sad note. On this day in
2017. Oh, that's where this came from. Yeah. From the devastating
genetic illness cyber fibrosis which is a terrible product
cyber cystic cystic guy said cyber wow, I think I dreamed up
a new thing. That's the show title. Cystic fibrosis, which is
the worst impact you to make in the universe is beyond measure.
Thank you. Thank you. One example is inspiring producers
to organize and attend meetups. Our household is now decorated
with artwork photography from other producers we meet met at a
meet up less interesting as a petition signed member of
architects and engineers for 911 Truth Well good for you. That's
got the websites at 911 truth.org I request this
spectacular WT C seven world go away clip followed by a two
today head. I do request karma for all producers in grief.
Sincerely, Joe Clemens and Anna Texas.
Adam Curry: I think I've seen pictures of his house during a
meet up it is indeed quite quite the shrine. Really. It's it's
quite fantastic. And did you see that RFK Jr. was on some
mainstream, like interview show and and he said you know he was
like well, you're 911 conspiracy theorists in RFK is like no no,
I don't know much about at all really. But I do know that
building seven. Just kind of nothing fell on it and the guy's
like, yes, it did. Building One and Two fell on it. didn't know
my office was there? No, it didn't fall and so now now he's
a 911 truther just expand the OP
John C Dvorak: wherever they've hosted this show, now he turned
No,
Adam Curry: no of course not. No, we're not used to it he had
some outro disclaimer though of course not can't to can't have
John C Dvorak: that. Kennedy had an office in the building seven
either
Adam Curry: in in or near in in or near it. I'm not sure which
one. Anyway, Joe, thank you very much. I pray for you. Well, we
need
John C Dvorak: to pull it
Unknown: out you've got karma.
John C Dvorak: on where to
Adam Curry: go, I'll do this one. Andrew Helenius Helenius
iron river Wisconsin 221 dot 22 In the morning, thank you for
your courage. Please accept this Richard surrounded by ducks.
2212 To get it for show 1594 In celebration of 10 years of holy
matrimony to my smokin hot wife Hillary and they never had a
fight. We tied the knot 10 years ago today a year prior I threw
her a birthday surprise birthday party and propose to her in
front of our friends and family. Her being a gal who hates being
the center of attention gave a choked up is sure
John C Dvorak: I like that. Yeah. I know women in general
like to have this sort of type of proposal.
Adam Curry: No not not in a party now. They want control
they want it videoed has to be beautiful their hair has to be
right everything I
John C Dvorak: teach away I think the way to just get some
skier writers
Adam Curry: that's kind of hokey. Why that's been done
John C Dvorak: Will you marry me is it's cost about
Adam Curry: but it's been it's been done a million times.
John C Dvorak: Saying hey, would you marry me has been done more
than a million towels.
Adam Curry: What women don't want sky writers they want a
cliff overlooking the ocean at sunset with with with
John C Dvorak: give you a story.
Adam Curry: This bonus content. This is donation segments bonus
content. Your power 15,
John C Dvorak: the director of marketing a woman that worked at
PC Magazine who you know, I worked with a lot. She's great.
She's got married you propose to her? No, no, but she has the she
had a proposal story of a lifetime and I never told her
before she got married. So once you get married, I said this
guy. You know what it was like? I was kind of befuddled by it.
And she says to me. We went to India, and he proposed to me in
front of the Taj Mahal. What was I supposed to do?
Adam Curry: Exactly. Man went all that way.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah, you want to get somebody just the
way she described to us. Like, if you're putting that position
at the Taj Mahal, the some digs kind of a monument to love you
don't have a choice. You have to say yes so so men out there you
get somebody's you know, but you first you got to somehow talk
her into flying to India. Now you
Adam Curry: don't get it. You get it? Sure. Sure. Sure.
Lastly, I need to give a wait. He says on a different subject.
I was watching a clip of headbangers ball yesterday and
was astounded to see how different Adam look back then.
Well, I had big hair. And I have one question, Adam. Do you still
have those leather pants? And I will say I don't know what you
were watching. I have never in my life worn leather pants on
the headbangers ball ever. So what were you watching? Send me
a link. Lastly, I need to give a shout out to midnight Mike Joe
aka flavortown and crush it from our big dumb mouth podcast. They
need some help on reaching 4 million subscribers. Why? Why do
you need 4 million subscribers? Sounds like it's on YouTube. No,
it has to be we don't hit the algo unless we have 4 million
subscribers and upload content every 15 minutes. Can I get an
answer? I'm anniversary karma from my wife Lord knows she
deserves it for putting up with me by Andy Helenius. You've got
karma
John C Dvorak: Douglas Murray in Missoula, Montana to $200.51
Happy Birthday sister, Dame Ellen of the dream realm on
Friday, the Friday the 29th Cheers to the trolls. And thank
you for your courage John and Adam,
Adam Curry: Colin Wilson. Gibsonia Pennsylvania 200. This
will be my second donation from the three Brothers Bagels. Hello
three Brothers Bagels. Really appreciate listening to your
show. I'll hand rolling sourdough bagels in Pittsburgh.
Thanks, guys. But you're late if you're doing it now, it's kind
of late. Don't Don't you roll them early in the morning. You
would think that's what I will. Yeah, that's when I roll my
bagels.
John C Dvorak: Linda Lou pagkain from Lakewood, Colorado, jobs
karma for a resume that gets results, go to Image makers
inc.com For all your executive resume and job search needs,
that's image makers Inc with a king.com. Or just find Lubetkin
under the show's producer list, I
Adam Curry: didn't mean to give you that one. This is what I
meant to hit jobs,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs, for jobs.
Adam Curry: And those are executive and Associate
Executive producers for episode 1594. These are credits that are
real, and you can put them on imdb.com. Go ahead, take a look.
There's hundreds, hundreds of them, probably up to about 800.
Now you can use it on your LinkedIn, put it on your resume
or CV, anything that you feel will be enhanced and it's good
forever. And if anyone ever questions that all you have to
do is get in touch with us and we'll happily vouch for you.
Thank you, our executive and Associate Executive Producer for
episode 1594. John is going to take us through the 50s and
we'll get to our meetups and our nice things.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, let's start with Sarah that sews in Sydney,
Montana. Saddle tramp, by the way gets credit for the $150
donation that credit well she would you'd get to thank you.
Richard Adams in Orem Utah $100 Turning 72 tomorrow I might
mention nice he has a new motto What doesn't kill you is
everything so far. Aaron Tanner in humble Texas 100 Some health
karma for the end of the after the end make sure to give the
hell's karma for Aaron is youngest daughter, sir Bob
Gallucci and Palmdale, California 100. Kevin
McLaughlin, and there we have it you brought it up earlier to 808
He's the lover of American boobs he's the Archduke and it's still
watermelon donation there it
Adam Curry: is. We must be getting to the end if he's
getting to water but by the way, have a great end of show mix
that has a whole bunch of boob donations in it from a lot of
melons. Watermelons
John C Dvorak: such as 808 and suds and sanity in Watkinsville.
Georgia or Watkinsville GA ad and that's it always had a meet
up report. You want it once you read the meet up report.
Adam Curry: Second, suds and Sandy meet up in Greensboro. Oh
yeah, we have a hold on a second those that
John C Dvorak: come in Okay, nevermind. Yeah, I think we have
extra Dana Carroll or Dana Carroll
Adam Curry: don't know agreement. Hold on. Is it live
Green Bay this Greensboro second southern Sandy meetup in
Greensboro Georgia had a smaller turnout but more intense
conversation we pass the hat to send the proceeds to the best
podcast in the universe. We would like to work on
pronunciation of the host location. See guide below. Oh
Connie. Oh, Coney. Oh, Paula rhymes with Oh, pony. Oh, Coney.
Oh, Kony. Got it.
John C Dvorak: So there is a missing from the list is the
$271 donation from one of the meetups. And this that's on
here. And it was I don't see, you know, and it's basically an
accumulation of money is supposed to be meetup reported
via email. So we'll read that later. But I should mention,
Dame Beth came in with 100 of the total. All right, so I just
want to credit her. Dana Carroll Lofton, Nevada 7227. Brian
Rogers in Bedford, New York. 70. And his pronouns are douche bag.
All right. Derrick Johnson in Denver, Colorado. 6969 Kevin
McLaughlin, again in Concord, North Carolina. It really wants
to run through these 606 No, no more melons.
Adam Curry: Melons are over. We're out of melons. Yes.
Unknown: Watermelon, no less melon
Adam Curry: watermelon. We're out.
John C Dvorak: Do you remember cantaloupe? I don't remember.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, definitely. Definitely.
Cantaloupe, for sure. Definitely. Definitely.
Definitely, definitely.
John C Dvorak: Bands driven Nashville, Tennessee. 5993.
Stephen, or Stephen Eisenman in Chicago, Illinois. 5555. Scott
Nelson in Council Bluffs, Iowa sir Scott 5001. And the
following people are all $50 donors, and as quite a few of
them here. And I'm just going to name them and give the location
starting with the tact squad tact squad in Columbus, Georgia,
Amy Grohl and bureau in Washington, John Walter in
Wenatchee, Washington, Jack Schoenfeld in yankeetown,
Florida, Shawna Norberg in Seattle, Douglas Ellis in New
York City for a Scott Brinkley and Kristian Berg, Virginia
Yeah, Scott McCart McCarty in Lodi, California Brian Emin
Heiser in Lancaster, California John Taylor in fluorescent,
Colorado. Sunny Pang and Lee, UK. Aaron wise Gerber in Bend,
Oregon, Richard Gardner, who I think is in New York as a sir.
Sir Richard, of course, Michael Elmore in Gastonia North
Carolina anonymous in Davis, California.
Adam Curry: Anonymous says something interesting was
injured. Right 175 Because of cold climate change that would
have been turbulent without your show. I would have never known
that true. Thank you. I'm going after the FAA for disregard for
passenger safety would love any help you can muster? All right.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this came up on the on Horowitz DHS
employed. He was unfamiliar with your thesis. No. Which is not a
thesis. No, it's
Adam Curry: actually it's on the faa.gov website.
John C Dvorak: And it's probably worth repeating at some point
again, because
Adam Curry: well very, very quickly because you I heard it
you almost explained it right. To to combat climate change.
Instead of going down different levels and staying away from the
turbulent air or flying above or above it before going down
another you know, to another flight level. The FAA has
decided you can just coast down ain't just coast all the way
down. Turbulence be damned. And the turbulence can often come
from other jets of course, or the jet engines. They do cause
turbulence and so that's us save save the planet. Enjoy your
injury
John C Dvorak: ZEV green in Teaneck, New York, a 50 Dame
girl Kyle not Kylie Stefano in orange Vale California and Sir
Luke Reiner wraps it up from London UK. Karma for all and we
do have some health karma to give her at the end. Yeah,
Adam Curry: health karma but also we have a note a nice note
from the previous show Peter Irish and he says thanks to Jody
dame of the 10 key we have made the hat trick to meetups and
executive producer credit in three days. Sir CB and cervix
meetups. Sue the soul with community warmth. Thank you for
thank you too for your deconstruction over the years
ITM to all producers as well. I'd like to claim my knighthood
with this donation. I will be Peters are missing of the dev
ops and he wants a douchey ben de douche, this standard fizzy
water at the roundtable high fives with the community
wherever we meet Sorry for the long note now not a problem at
all. Here's the health karma as requested. You've got karma. And
thank you of course everyone who came in under $50 Usually for
reasons of anonymity I see a lot of 4999 is there today we
appreciate that. And everybody who came in with a sustaining
donation there are lots of them. You can you can choose one
yourself that does keep us going and we appreciate that and
everybody including our Executive Associate Executive
producers who supported us for this episode 1594 Our formula
Unknown: is this we go out we get people in the mouth
Adam Curry: Yes, we have a couple of birthdays to celebrate
sir Jeremy Jim potty turn 61 Tomorrow. Douglas Murray wishes
his sister Dame Ellen of the dream realm and happy birthday
tomorrow as well. And Richard Adams is celebrating tomorrow
the 29th himself and he will be turning 72 Happy birthday for
everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Oops
nope, sorry. No title changes my mistake. I thought we had a
title change we do not. We have a one day pass him his name and
we have two nights so let's get out the beautiful blade for this
ceremony. Very nice. Nice choice. I like that one a lot.
We request in spirit Miss Roland. But also Peter ice and
William Rowland up on the podium. Thank you very much for
supporting the best podcast in the universe. I'm very proud to
pronounce the KBS Dame Puma of the Eastern Washington chasms
Prader sur missing of the DevOps and search trigger max of the
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yes, the no agenda meetups is where you go to find people who
listen to the show, but also really defined your local
community and even though people come from hours and hours away
sometimes it is a great, great event. Everyone should attend
one at least once the keeper and i Looks like we'll be attending.
We will go to indie, indie meetup, I think it's December 4
That will be the confirmation will be forthcoming. So you know
for the people who are there with your 100 people it seems
every single time looking forward to that you can start
planning and here is a report from Green Bay
Unknown: in the morning, sir Vic's in the morning bearing
grape drink in the morning, Jay from Green Bay. Hi, Adam. Sam
from Green Bay
in the morning is the SIR Dan someone Hey, John and Adam. It
just remember we're not rafting at you. We're rafting with you.
Mr. MoPhO. In the morning, Laura from Green Bay
Fifi from Green Bay is jer in the morning sir. Broken glass.
Thank you for all your hard work in the morning. This is Peter
going for the hattrick happy to be here in the morning. This is
Kyle. I am no longer a douchebag Hi, Adam and John. It's God damn
god of the 10 P and I'm here again. Imagine that. Hi, this is
Alex and I forgot the response. Thank you for your in the
morning. Hello, my name is Wolfgang. I'm here at the end.
No agenda meet up ITM producers. It's Varun sir phenom. And don't
forget to vote for Mike Gaston for Charleston City Council.
Dame Jennifer campaign manager. I don't listen to the podcast.
Please don't hit me in the mouth.
Adam Curry: That's right. This is what happens at meetups all
of a sudden you get city council members and other producers like
not just any producer but Dame Jennifer running your campaign
beautiful. A note the meet up for today at Alpharetta, Georgia
cherish tea brewing has been cancelled. I'm not sure why but
just so you know, don't go. The Mile High meet up though is on
630 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado, the Nashville
pints and pairing will be on tomorrow six o'clock at the
Yazoo Brewing Company Madison, Tennessee, the first Vancouver
Canada meet up 7pm Leticia, but lutukka Pizza maybe Vancouver
British Columbia. That's tomorrow also end of summer will
be celebrated at McSorley's, wonderful saloon and Grill in
Toronto, Ontario. And on Saturday, the local 512 bringing
in the fall a duck's back yard Sunset Valley austin texas Of
course. Baron Scott of The no agenda armory. I wish I could
attend Baron Scott. Once again. We've missed on the scheduling.
I'm in Houston this weekend, unfortunately. But it's a great
meetup. Everybody should go also on Saturday, the fractal meetup
chicken and pickle Oklahoma City Oklahoma. We've got the Alberta
meet up in the Buckingham in Edmonton Alberta. And the Como
come all co mo Twin Lakes recreation area in Columbia,
Missouri. Oh, that's where como comes from that Saturday,
central Ohio meetup five o'clock at Dempsey's food and spirits
and on September 30, Saturday the sixth northwest Houston meet
up. Wow. I'm not going to be in northwest Houston. That's too
bad. bogeys billiards West. That's in Houston Texas. plenty
more to come. Well, we have all the way through November's I can
see on the list. You can see that list for yourself and no
agenda meetups.com You owe it to yourself if you listen to this
podcast you owe it to yourself to go meet your fellow
compatriots. And whenever you do meet them you'll immediately
realize what you have protection because that's what you get from
connection no agenda meetups.com If you can't find one there you
start one yourself sometimes
Unknown: you go hang out with Dyson days. You won't be
triggered you will be buddy like a
Adam Curry: like a pot like a pot. It is like a party. It
really is. It's a party. I see you only have one ISO
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm hoping it'll beat yours. Once you play
yours and snow. I
Adam Curry: have a whole bunch. No,
John C Dvorak: you think you have a whole bunch?
Adam Curry: I got four plan. Okay, and here is yeah that's no
good. You'll be that easy about this one. And I feel like our
patrons just have really good taste now that's no good. This
is this is the one this I think this is just may boost that
boosts the sound a little bit. This is I mean brought all those
elements just a shield to play this one extra extra awesome.
Oh, it's pretty good, right?
John C Dvorak: I do like it.
Adam Curry: Okay you do? You do like
John C Dvorak: you do as opposed to just liking it? I
Adam Curry: do like You're like it. Let's listen to yours.
Unknown: How do we trust these guys?
Adam Curry: Ah, wow. I'm Do you know that's kind of a tough call
is coming? Extra extra awesome.
Unknown: How do we trust these guys?
Adam Curry: I like yours better. I think how do we trust these
guys is
John C Dvorak: funnier. I like that. It's funny. It's funny.
It's funny.
Adam Curry: It's also the audio is better. So I give that to
you. Give it to you. Okay, we'll take it. Give it to you. Hey,
Metta unveiled its AI chatbots. Did you see the presentation?
John C Dvorak: I saw part of it, but I didn't. Well, follow it
Adam Curry: closely. This is Facebook falling on its face. As
far as I'm concerned.
Unknown: Throwing down the digital gauntlet in the AI race
currently dominated by chat GPT Mark Zuckerberg showed matters
recent cost cutting has not stopped them keeping up with the
integration of artificial intelligence into daily life.
Adam Curry: Now this is really interesting, because, you know,
I mean, what is it a chat? What it what are they doing it? You
know, artificial intelligence, I mean, thrown down the gauntlet
against chat GPT open AI, which as far as I know, is is free and
I don't make any money on it. But hey, he's got an idea. What
could it be?
Unknown: I think that one of the most interesting questions for
our industry over the coming decades is going to be how do we
unify these experiences of the physical that we have with this
vibrant digital world to create something that is more coherent?
And just better than anything that we have today?
Adam Curry: Is that one of the most important questions that we
have in this industry today gentlemen, is that will you say
that did I know I don't think so. We've
Unknown: got many lots of matters answer is there new chat
bots available in the US as of Wednesday across
John C Dvorak: chatting going on already on Facebook? You need a
chatbot
Adam Curry: Well, there's a payoff to this
Unknown: and WhatsApp can these bots search for answers using
questions through Microsoft Bing responses muscle use llama to
model that the company made open source earlier this year going
to
help you check this out. So let's say you're you're planning
dinner. You got Max the sous chef.
Adam Curry: Oh, this is this is why you need it. You need the
chat bots. And you have Max the sous chef
Unknown: who can help you come up with a recipe
Adam Curry: Oh wow.
John C Dvorak: Oh, what is this? What do you have your own chef
at the house? Oh yeah, normal person.
Unknown: Oh, you know you have a chef and help you come up with
ideas. So if you want to find a way to sneak some broccoli into
your kids dinner Max's got you you know let's say you had too
much salt to the recipe you can help you balance that out.
Adam Curry: This This feels like a demo from like 1999
Unknown: Studio the intelligence maybe artificial personalities
are being made to feel very real interests, users of Metis
platforms will be able to interact with 28 chatbots that
will feel familiar. As celebrities have agreed their
voices and likenesses can be used in the future. The goal is
to AI characters will eventually appear in the metaverse as
avatars. But Zuckerberg said these products would roll out
slowly so as to deal with any privacy and safety concerns that
arise.
Adam Curry: So what this is, is you have some quasi celebrity
chef. No, they're celebrities. I don't know which max this is.
And he has allowed his image and his recipes, supposedly, to be
built into the llama model. And maybe even his voice I don't
know. And so that's what they're selling. It's like okay, so you
get a celebrity chef, this is what you should do for wine. I
mean, obviously, but they won't pay you the pain those guys. But
that's what you want. I would love to have the John C. Dvorak
wine. chatbot
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we can do it ourselves.
Adam Curry: I think we can. Even if we just hire some asylum
seekers to answer
John C Dvorak: Oh, we get some developers in the audience. One
of them can crank this out for it.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And what will people pay for it? That's the
question. I don't see any extra
John C Dvorak: value for value. They will Oh, please. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So Barry Diller went on CNBC. To talk about AI and
this is a very different kind of AI. This is the this is what you
on the last show said will change the art world. But it's
all about copyright. And I thought it was interesting
because he had a couple of a couple of things to say. And
he's very he hates AI hates everything he just hates.
Everybody
John C Dvorak: hates you and him.
Adam Curry: And I'm kind of liking him. Now.
Unknown: Let me ask about AI. Because you have been quite
public about your harsh May. I mean, I'm so sick of you're sick
of
Adam Curry: it. I love already I'm liking it. A i May I
Unknown: May I mean, I'm so sick of you're sick of it. Well,
you were you were ready to sue? Oh, no, you won't want to do
that you're gonna see.
Just, you know, the gobbling up of every piece of noise about AI
infecting your toenails. Is not that it is not transfer
transformative. It certainly we'll be over time. But I'm just
tired of hearing this kind of this hype noise as to litigation
or as
you're trying to put together a group of publishers yes to sue
Chachi pt. And others
know what we're what we want to do is a very simple thing. Okay.
Copyright, the copyright law has entered something called a mind
boring you has something called fair use
Adam Curry: someone on the set looking at the laptop, he's
like, Am I boring you
Unknown: like jeans means that you can take an excerpt thing,
something and not pay for it. Fair Use needs to be redefined.
Because what they have done is sucked up everything. And that
violates we believe the base of the copyright law, all we want
to do is establish that there is no such thing as fair use for
AI, which gives us standing. Once we have standing, then,
depending upon how this works out over time. There there is at
least status right now we have no status, they got all our
stuff. Most companies have now said as we have our dot
Desmarais, which isn't the largest publisher, we've said,
You can't do this anymore. And they won't from now on but they
got all the old hadn't didn't have to pay you for the if in
fact, if you violate the copyright law, like you write
something, you make something and somebody takes it with
literally appropriates it. We believe that is simple, wrong.
Okay. So that's in the copyright law. Once you get that, then at
least you have standing.
That's all we want. We have to pay you for that. How do you
make the AI
let me ask you a question if you think we're right on something,
but what's like there's some kind of exchange and right now
there's conversations that we're having and others are having
with all of us and chatters. They say yeah, we're happy to
make arrangements. That what percent of zero would you like?
Because there's no revenue.
Adam Curry: That's that's the point. There's no revenue. He
says how much percent of zero will you want because we're no
one's making any money making any money. Of course, now, he
makes a classic mistake, classic mistake by now he's going to
prognosticate about the future of AI.
Unknown: The next thing to pay attention to on AI is not search
and chat and stuff like that. It's when it goes from research
to action, when it can autonomously get things done for
you. Right think of travel, being able to say, I want to go
to Istanbul, it knows enough about you enough about all of
your preferences, that it can basically ask you one or two
questions, and then actually go and execute the transaction.
Right now. It's research. When it turns to action. Everything
changes.
Adam Curry: How many decades have we heard this?
John C Dvorak: Is this is a never ending? Yeah, Holy Grail,
but he was he described smart
Adam Curry: agents and work on your behalf. When your fridge is
out of milk, it will automatically order new milk for
you. I have heard this for decades.
John C Dvorak: It's the old a hill oh wait, what do you want?
Because I'm the Maytag repairman. But I didn't call for
repairman. No, your washer did. Yeah.
Adam Curry: There was one interesting article that was in
the Business Insider. And you know, we had the smartest people
in the world talk about AI with the senators behind closed
doors. Now, as Elon Musk said, you know, it's very important to
save the world. So that's why you need the smartest people in
the world in the room. And now we have a leak. We know what
what was discussed. Have you seen this? Know? Several tech
leaders descended upon Capitol Hill last week to discuss the
rapid suspension of generative AI, which as far as I know does
not exist yet. It was a mostly stead meeting until the
potential harms from metas new llama to model came up during
the discussion, attended by most of the Senate's 100 members,
Tristan Harris, remember that guy? Now he's one of the most
smartest human beings in the world. Sure, and CO a co founder
of the Center for humane technology said he recently had
engineers take Metis powerful large language model llama to
for a test drive. After some prompting, Harris said that a
chat with llama two came back with a detailed walkthrough of
how to create anthrax as a biological weapon.
John C Dvorak: Please,
Adam Curry: according to one person familiar with the form
and two senators present that prompted a testy exchange
between Harris and Zuckerberg. Most specifics of the exchange
between Harris and Zuckerberg have not been previously
reported. Though Harris receiving directions from llama
to about an unidentified biological weapon was noted by
the Washington Post. And of course, Zuckerberg then hit back
and said, you can get this on YouTube. If you want to find out
how to make anthrax, you can get it on YouTube. So this is what
they were talking about. I believe it. There's so
John C Dvorak: this is a stupid they are definitely a stupid
part. I believe.
Adam Curry: It's stupid. They're stupid. The whole thing is
stupid. That's gonna change our world can't wait. Can't wait.
John C Dvorak: For overtime.
Adam Curry: Well, we're only overtime because we had a huge
pause. You think we're overtime? But you
John C Dvorak: know, you I bet we're all way over the pauses
only five minutes.
Adam Curry: The pause was 10 minutes. But would you like to
play one clip? Or do you want to leave on this? No,
John C Dvorak: no, no, but I want to I want to I'll teach the
clips. Why don't you play a clip? Let's play. So here's the
display. The second part of a clip this is I just want to
bring up this. You know Menendez Menendez has been kicked out.
And I have two clips when you want to play. The second one was
just Schumer commenting on Menendez. He doesn't even know
the guy's name. He calls a Menendez oil
Adam Curry: update. And then Schumer Schumer? I gotcha.
Unknown: Senator Chuck Schumer broke his silence at a press
conference on Wednesday.
Like you. I was just deeply disappointed. disturbed when I
read the indictment, but we all know that senators, for
Senators, there's a much much higher standard. And clearly
when you read the indictment, Senator Menendez fell way, way
below that standard.
Adam Curry: Okay, I get to do a 32nd clip. This was Senator
Menendez, Menendez. Well, that was fantastic. This was Matt
gates, who's been all over the all over the mainstream lately
with a big mouth. And this I have to say this was one of the
funnier things he's done. You are
Unknown: your record. And our record in this country right now
is $33 trillion in debt facing $2 trillion annual deficits.
We're in so much debt. We're driving up deficits so fast. We
are devaluing American money so rapidly that in America today,
you can't even bribe Democrat senators with cash alone. You
need to bring gold bars to get the job done. Just so that the
bribes hold now. Come on. Well,
John C Dvorak: well, good move. Very funny, guys. The guys this
show is showman they're all
Adam Curry: showman he's just funnier. Yeah, that is our
deconstruction for today. We're over time. But we do have end of
show mixes coming up from Michael Wolf's are Michael
Anthony DS laughs and sound guy Steve that would be the metal
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John C Dvorak: Devin northern Silicon Valley where I remain on
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destroy New York City
President Biden has come into the city to destroy this
beautiful city this economic engine of the entire country
destroyed Joy Joy, Joy. New York, Sydney and Sydney and
Sydney and Sydney is
destroy in New York City. I'ma tell y'all the secret New York
City. Keep this on the town is a Freemason. It was just a Miesha
Tate as a master mason into the prince Hall Grand Lodge and K
Freemasonry for us black brothers. They also initiated
the chief of police, the police commissioner and other powerful
melanated dudes running this ain't no white boys up in this
club. No women need only brothers and we had the ceremony
right up in Gracie Mansion. haters out there saying that
public servants should not be the window segregated secret
society rituals on government property. Man y'all just mad
y'all wasn't invited on like obviously illegal immigrants.
Anyway, I don't even know for all the symbolisms means I just
like to dress up and feel in so maybe now y'all send a treat me
with the respect which which I deserve because I'm more than
just the mayor. From now on. I am the grand architect of New
York City. But don't tell nobody
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Did you know there are over 40 different types of melons out
there
John C Dvorak: Kevin McLaughlin in Concord North Carolina says
honey do melons he just wrote that in there for some reason.
He likes melons, Golden Delicious melons, the Gallia
melon corn, melons melons that are there in the world. Over
four different types of melons are trying to show off your
melons ladies. Honey globe, melons, honey globe and melons
tasty camouflage melons, peppers and aisle three camouflage
melons Jade melon donation J do is another literal melon and
I've had those are pretty good. I think the trustor nouns my
favorite.
Adam Curry: You just love melons,
John C Dvorak: Castle melon Calabash melons, that's Calabash
melons that kiss melon has got a big tongue that comes out of it
the papaya melon, Balan melon that you Bari King melon autumn
suites, Autumn suites the melons of choice for connoisseurs gonna
run out of melons by the melon varieties. I think this budding
watermelon yet exactly. can pull a melon from another one I've
never heard of.
Adam Curry: But how long will he be able to come up with melon
names?
John C Dvorak: Korean melons
Adam Curry: I love his melon assortment
Unknown: gak
John C Dvorak: melons, the ananassa melon zero head one
this one Right to melon Charentais melons which is
literally a melon. Kevin McLaughlin is back this time
promoting this melon for you keeping score
Unknown: Vora vorak.org/in A how do we trust these guys?