John C Dvorak: Well now turns out to be a complete hoax. Adam
curry Jhansi Dvorak
Adam Curry: 21st 2023 This Year Award Winning Combination media
assassination episode 1592. This is no agenda, hitting the magic
number on the nose and broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas hill country here in fingerings. Number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where everybody's
rooting for a time of Fuji. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: Let me guess a time of Fuji is a sumo wrestler.
John C Dvorak: Exactly. He's leading this September
tournament. Oh, oh, 1233 matches to go. I think
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm so excited for you. For you to be
John C Dvorak: more excited for him. He's like it. This is an up
and comer. He's like 21 young kid, as far as like a second big
match ever. He's like six to 400 pounds. Good. Good. He's really
good at it sounds like a winner. This kid. I think he's going to
be a yakka Zuna
Adam Curry: Yokozuna? Well, while we await his yuccas unis,
it finally happened. We finally hit the magic number.
Unknown: While the clock is ticking on House Speaker Kevin
McCarthy, the Republican leader is in a race against the clock
to find a deal to avoid another government shutdown all of this
as a new report claims. America's national debt has
topped $33 trillion.
Adam Curry: Didn't we just hit 31 trillion like two months ago?
Or am I am I mistaken? 33
John C Dvorak: was the number two months ago they because I
remember bringing this up once before.
Adam Curry: I thought it was 32 because it went from 31. And
they
John C Dvorak: like Do you tend to go from it tends to move
around lower numbers to higher numbers. There's never gone the
other way? Well, no, they're gonna go to 34. Then back to 33.
Here it is.
Adam Curry: New York Times New York Times says it September 18.
US national debt tops 33 trillion for the first time. So
if it's the New York Times, it must be true. Yeah, has to be
trust to be true. Man. There's so many people acting today. Or
this past week, everyone acting out on the stage everyone great
actors, from our Ukrainian friend to oh man, we had so
many, so many congress people doing I mean, it was like it was
beautiful show C span was the place to be who cares about a
writer's strike. There was so much beautiful acting going on.
I loved it. All kinds of distractions. Phenomenal stuff.
John C Dvorak: Solinsky ever show up in Ukraine anymore. As
Adam Curry: I lay you know, we've got to talk about his
outfit had
John C Dvorak: in hand floating around. Now he's with the two I
guess today or yesterday with the US Senate all the whole
Senate. And he's, you know, no today. It's today. And then you
know, feta means out there. They've made an exception so he
could go and run the Senate with in shorts. You know, and he said
that he will wear a suit if the Republicans get on board with
the war in Ukraine. So you know, that must be very serious.
Fetterman
Adam Curry: is what I mean this all this acting going on. But
let's talk about this Alinsky outfit, because I watched him at
the United Nations, man. What a bunch of Jamocha that is over
there. Oh man, warmongers. Climate change where boy when
John C Dvorak: we get there what whoever they are, they're all
excellency. Yes. And how does that word, His Excellency Joe
Biden. What is His Excellency bullcrap. He called everybody
who comes up to speak His Excellency,
Adam Curry: I'm gonna call you we should call each other said
your excellence. I was worried about
John C Dvorak: it calling you. His Excellency Adam curry.
Adam Curry: Yes, His Excellency, His Excellency, the Honorable
John Charles Dvorak. The floor is yours, Your Excellency. Now I
think it's today. Today he comes by CBS had a report.
Unknown: Ukraine's president is said to visit Washington today
asking for more help in the fight against Russia with a
government shutdown looming. It could be a tough sell. Tufts
gang has the latest from the White House. We check Good
morning.
Adam Curry: I love that at least they're admitting it's a sales
job and he just for a second. Everybody is in suit and tie and
everyone's you know, got their got their guard Bond got their
flowing gowns and the whole thing to African delegation.
They've got their their hats, people got the turbans everyone
is decked out and Solinsky comes in this olive drab, short sleeve
shirt. With with military dudes all around him, Can we stop with
with this with? Can we get some new wardrobe in here to costume?
It is a total costume. He's an actor. It's a costume.
Unknown: Good morning to you and Marie and good morning to
everybody, President Biden, and Solinsky. As you know, we're
just at the United Nations making their plea to more than
140. World leaders but
Adam Curry: your absolute excellencies Say It Right Lady,
the right
Unknown: today could be even tougher because some Republicans
have already come out to say that they are not prepared to
support Ukraine further that they believe it is time for the
US to stop shelling out cash. President Biden has asked for
another $24 billion. Yeah, 24
John C Dvorak: billion, 4 billion. But fiction, some
potholes,
Adam Curry: but this is part this is all part of the script
to get everybody all concentrated on this. Oh, you'd
like you. How about fixing some potholes or in
Unknown: military aid that's on top of the $113 billion that the
EU has has already spent now. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has
said that he thinks this should be a standalone debate because
as of right now it is weaved into that government shutdown
money that you are referring to, which is called a CR continuing
resolution to keep the government funded after the end
of this month because the money is running out. And so right
now, you know whether there are enough votes in the House is the
big question. We do know that Democrats and even Senate
Minority Leader Mitch McConnell have been very vocal about
continuing the aid for Ukraine as well as most other Senate
Republicans. But if you don't have the numbers, you don't have
the numbers. Of course, it will be very different to have
Zielinski making that plea in person.
Adam Curry: You mean His Excellency Zelinsky making? Why
will that be any different other than Oh, look, the actors come
to our theater. It's all so lame and and social media is just
pumped full with everybody's got an opinion of Rand Paul,
although I agree with him. We can have this we can our
American cities are falling apart. And then Lindsey Graham's
out there like, well, if we stop there, we don't find Ukraine,
then there'll be more wars everywhere.
John C Dvorak: We're almost broken to Lindsey Graham sound
Adam Curry: getting close. I think he might be again, there
might be in this.
Unknown: Ukraine to be carved up. Carved. Carved.
Adam Curry: This is a new one. What would it mean carved up?
Hold on a second. Who's ever talked about being carved up?
Does that mean?
John C Dvorak: Well, is it around as in a newsletter has
been floating around that Poland once the the western part? Yes.
Adam Curry: And Poland is like, Hey, we're not gonna we're not
gonna give any more weapons to Ukraine. We're not accepting any
grain. Why did you go pound sand? Ukraine. That's what Yep,
you know, Poland, carving up the West Russia carving up the east
and Biden saying it onstage
Unknown: is the independence of any nation. The United States,
together with our allies and partners around the world,
continue to stand with the brave people Ukraine, as they defend
our sovereignty and territorial integrity, their freedom,
John C Dvorak: territorial Tegrity integrity, territorial
Adam Curry: integrity.
Unknown: So one of the things I found interesting about that
speech, Regis
Adam Curry: was that he was completely incoherent and
stumbling and bumbling that was they gonna say that there's
Unknown: one of the things I found interesting about that
speech. Weijia is I felt like he was echoing the mess, the most
recent messaging that we've been hearing from Vladimir Zelensky,
which is essentially it Ukraine falls?
Adam Curry: Well, gee, what a coincidence. Our president is
essentially echoing what the actor from Ukraine says, I
wonder why
Unknown: Russia is not going to stop there. If you don't want to
get involved in this conflict. Trust me, if Ukraine goes away.
It'll be World War Three, you will be involved. There are a
lot of lawmakers that are a little concerned about the
amount of spending whether or not this is good money thrown
after bad whether this war can be won by Ukraine. What do
Zelinsky and President Biden need to do to convince
Philippine lawmakers to vote in favor of more aid?
Adam Curry: Good question, what do they have to do? Put on a
little play?
Unknown: And Ray, I think it is going to be tough. So perhaps
Congress won't approve that big $24 billion dollar figure. It's
also hard to imagine that proving anything, right? Because
there are some Republicans who are saying, Look, if we turn our
backs on Ukraine now, why would any country trust us in the
future? So it's not only about the ongoing war, but it's about
America's standing standing with the rest of the world
John C Dvorak: is going to trust us what that will be suckers to
be soaked for billions.
Adam Curry: Like we're so trustworthy to start with
Unknown: going war, but it's about America's Standing with
the rainbow world.
Americans report overwhelmingly American voters still support
Ukraine and that's something I'm sure all the politics as well
really
Adam Curry: isn't just thank you is that overwhelmingly so I
don't think so. Miss CBS lady, but CBS, it's all set up because
just now support is waning. They have somehow believe that they
can use that actor in this director's movie, because Sean
Penn appears on CBS to talk about, you know, he just
happened to be doing a documentary on this incredibly
interesting actor. And then all of a sudden Russia invaded, what
are the chances? He's like, like that just drops right in your
lap and Sean Penn? Well, there's no one better to bring the
message of hope for Slava, Ukraine, then Sean Penn and
Unknown: one of the clips, Andre Yermak, one of the top advisors
to President Solinsky says to you, the US position should be
stronger if the United States and Joe Biden doesn't do
something now, essentially, he says America is over. That
follows
Adam Curry: pretty well. Oh, yeah. No, if you say it's, yeah,
if America doesn't help, America is over. We're over. We're over.
That's what that's what's happening. We're no good. We're
just we're at home,
Unknown: the United States and Joe Biden doesn't do something
now. Essentially, he says America's over.
John C Dvorak: That's what was it that said, that was one of
the clips,
Unknown: Andre Yermak, one of the top advisors to presidents
and
Adam Curry: one of the top advisors to Zelensky, you know,
one of the one of the shares what he thinks, well, he has a
speaking role. Hello, he gets a SAG card
John C Dvorak: does this show Yes, it gets the minimum he gets
a SAG card minimum
Adam Curry: wage, he
Unknown: says to you, you know, the US position should be
stronger if the United States and Joe Biden doesn't do
something now, essentially, he says America's over that
followed with a pretty robust,
John C Dvorak: we're never gonna get sick of these guys berating
us. After all the money we've given them, this is getting
ridiculous,
Adam Curry: hey, you're paying for this play, you might as well
sit back and enjoy it
Unknown: by the United States more than $50 billion purchase
of weapons. But by what I've heard you say you think the
United States isn't doing enough? Sean Penn
is my absolute feeling that
John C Dvorak: these opposed to his feeling his spirit goal, a
caution with which
Unknown: the United States has pledged support, which seemed,
in my reading of of the February 2020 22, was a lien on in the
fear of nuclear conflict. Something I think all of us
should look very carefully at and understand that, of course,
is possible. And that's to be concerning.
Adam Curry: I have to be just stop this for a second 59 years
on this planet. The amount of times I've heard is what some if
you don't do x, then nuclear war, why will happen? I've heard
this so many times. Never, never has anything been bitten. The
only people who have dropped bomb nukes has been us. But
since then nothing and this weight and it's getting tiring.
It's the thing. It's like, really, it's just it's just like
it's you find something new, Shawn?
Unknown: The likelihood is extremely low. Okay. Wow, our
witnesses in the film says, you know, are we going to let a
gangster with nuclear weapons dictate? The way we live?
Adam Curry: is talking about Biden,
John C Dvorak: wait a minute, isn't talking about Biden? Is he
talking about dictating the way we live?
Adam Curry: Apparently, Putin
Unknown: so no, and that the Ukrainians won't let him do
that.
John C Dvorak: So we have to look at Ukrainians are
protecting us from Putin, and
Adam Curry: I'm so happy there. That yes, they are the front
line, the front lines
John C Dvorak: stopping because Putin would be dictating what we
do. Yes, yes. Don't
Adam Curry: you understand? Shut up, yo.
John C Dvorak: So now hold on a second. I wanted to harken back
to the Trump here I went, I was at an event in the Berkeley
hills. And I was actually told that Putin is running Trump.
Everybody in Berkeley felt this way.
Adam Curry: Everyone knows still. I would say if you ask
Nicole Wallace on MSNBC, she would still say that.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So and so this is not an unexpected
thought. But it's ludicrous. It's ludicrous. I call out this
one person at this event. I said, What are you telling me
that Putin is actually running the country? And she said,
nobody's calling the shots.
Adam Curry: It's his playbook. He's calling the shots. That's
right. That's right. And that's why apparently, Biden is no he's
just to I don't know, I don't I let's listen to the rest of Sean
Penn here live.
Unknown: So I think that and that the Ukrainians won't
Adam Curry: let him do that. Thank you, Ukraine, Slava. So we
Unknown: have to look at the aligned aspiration of what we
are as people and as countries and as governments, and see that
they are the embodiment of what we aspire to. And we should have
had F sixteens. Air Defense long range weapons, robustly in
position, long since by now,
Adam Curry: da, we have done such a poor job of getting long
range weapons, it's just we have not helped them at all. This is
horrible. And then the truth comes out Sean Penn, there's
still an
Unknown: opportunity for us to do the right thing and whether
it's Republican or Democrat, whether it's President Biden's
administration or not. Personally, I think that there's
not only a principal when in two escalating this escalating our
help of that my name. Oh,
Adam Curry: I missed. Okay, I'm listening again. Here.
John C Dvorak: I should have stumbled Yeah,
Unknown: for us to do the right thing. And whether it's
Republican or Democrat, whether it's President Biden's
administration or not. Personally, I think that there's
not only a principal when in in to escalating this escalating
our help of that might
Adam Curry: escalate it, we got to escalate this. That's what he
said. I think it's a principle we got to escalate this best,
right? We've got a bomb Moscow bhamashah. Yes. This is the
watch that one
Unknown: of the people you interviewed this last clip
central bank had said to you, World War Three has begun and
Ukraine is the frontline. So people will look at that and say
that that's just hyperbole. You seem to really believe that. I
don't know more at
Adam Curry: what I don't know is which central bank had said
that. So in this film, which I have not seen, a central bank
head said World War Three has already begun. But I don't know
who it was.
Unknown: You seem to really believe that that there is more
at stake in this conflict than just the territory in eastern
Europe.
Yeah, I don't know that I would use the same words. He by the
way is one of the more impressive people I've ever met
and I you know, don't just
Adam Curry: do you think it was Powell could have been Powell
John C Dvorak: I would have said fed you know, would definitely
never be proud to be
Adam Curry: the European Central Bank. Because that's that's no
that's Fifi Lagarde so couldn't be in the European Central Bank
because it was a he was it the Ukrainian central bank that ever
central bank
Unknown: probably depends on what it means.
Adam Curry: Very impressive guy. Now I'm jumping out of this. I
want to screw this guy. He's tiring. But let's go to NBC and
listen to Andrea Mitchell because she really had a great
rapport. I think this includes our friend, Lindy Hop,
Unknown: we have to stand up to this naked aggression today. And
deter other would be aggressors tomorrow.
In an impassioned speech, President Biden
Adam Curry: are impassioned speech. Why can't they can't
even tell the truth about that? I mean, I saw the speech you saw
the speech, there was fumbling bumbling blank was a
disappointment.
John C Dvorak: I was hoping for it to go off the rails. They
didn't know me. Yeah, they
Adam Curry: didn't check him off the
John C Dvorak: tour other would be not enough.
Adam Curry: She shows an impassioned instead of
incoherent Is that what you meant?
Unknown: Tomorrow? In an impassioned speech, President
Biden urged world leaders to stay united behind Ukraine.
Warning of dire consequences if Russia's aggression goes
unchecked.
We abandon the core principles of United States to appease an
aggressor. Can any member state in this body feel confident that
they're protected
with growing calls in the US and abroad to withhold
Adam Curry: that's the best soundbite they could get. Hey,
man, this body,
John C Dvorak: I got no sound bites.
Unknown: Can any member state in this body feel confident that
they're protected?
With growing calls in the US and abroad to withhold additional
aid to Ukraine, Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky,
appearing in person this year to warn other leaders Russia can
target them next.
The goal of the present war against Ukraine is to tour our
lands, our people our lives, our resources into a weapon against
you. Again the international rules based order
today at the UN Security Council Solinsky will present his peace
plan calling for a full Russian withdrawal and payment of
reparations to rebuild his devastated country. Tomorrow
Zelinsky will travel to Washington to meet with
President Biden at the White House and plead with Congress to
continue his military support. But Republicans are deeply
divided over the Biden administration's request for an
additional $24 billion for Ukraine. Where's the
accountability on the money we've already spent? What is the
plan for victory
but that consequences of pulling the plug on Ukraine are
enormous. It will lead to more war not less
Adam Curry: where it is. We can pull the plug now. It'll lead to
more war not less. That logic is interesting as your logic that's
your logic. And now it turns out, you know, the Khan Khan
from Pakistan. We didn't really cover much of it, because but
conga kicked
John C Dvorak: out well, it wasn't because
Adam Curry: I know we had something else to do. But Khan
got kicked out. And now it turns out the reason it now was the
Prime Minister Khan was that his title, excuse me was His
Excellency Khan got kicked out because he wasn't on board was
making cheap ammo for Ukraine, in Pakistan at our at our
behest. At least that is, according to these clips, we're
joined
Unknown: now by Ryan.
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry, he was gonna make. Okay. So we were we
can't seem to make our own ammo anymore. Is that Is that what
we're finally concluding here? The real takeaway from this, all
these reports?
Adam Curry: Well, so here's the worst part. So we're seeing when
we spend billions of dollars for the war in Ukraine, Slava
Ukraine. It's supposed to go to our guys. That's supposed to go
to Pakistan. So I don't know what happened there.
Unknown: AMY GOODMAN flippin bound. We're joined now by Ryan
Grim the intercepts Washington bureau chief, his latest piece
co written with Murtaza Hussein is headlined us
John C Dvorak: second. This has stopped for a second and realize
that the intercept which is an online has a Washington bureau
chief, of course, as if they have like, you know, a ton of
people and why do they use a bureau and is the chief of the
Bureau and he's assigning this and that to different, please.
Adam Curry: And supposedly they got gobs and gobs of money which
I'm sure
John C Dvorak: comes where they might have gobs of money, but
they don't have a Washington bureau chief. That's whatever.
Okay,
Adam Curry: well, we have a Washington bureau chief, His
Excellency John C. Dvorak, the Washington bureau chief for the
no agenda show might as well be
Unknown: is headlined us help Pakistan get IMF bailout with
secret arms deal for Ukraine leaked documents show so
elaborate on this Ryan Grim talk about the significance of the
arms deal, and Pakistan's changing position on the Ukraine
war. In fact, it happened to be that Imran Khan was visiting
with Russia, President Putin the day Russia invaded Ukraine.
Absolutely, absolutely. If you
Adam Curry: want a name like Ryan Grim, he's a spook come.
invaded Ukraine.
Unknown: Absolutely. Fury ated. Washington. Several weeks later,
is when you had that critical meeting where Assistant
Secretary Lew conveyed Washington's impression, which
was that Khan stays in power, Pakistan will be isolated from
the EU and from the United States. But if Khan is pushed
out of power, then all will be forgiven. Because as Lou put it,
Washington understood that Imran Khan's policy was his own policy
and no policy. In other words, that if somebody knew were put
in place, the hope was that Pakistan would then become a key
ally again, of the United States in in its geopolitical struggle,
generally, but very specifically with with Ukraine, and Russia.
Adam Curry: Aha, now wait a minute, isn't isn't Pakistan all
in with China, just to just to make it even more complicated or
that war
John C Dvorak: is traditionally traditionally ignoring China?
Pakistan was our buddy. Yeah. And India was Russia's buddy,
Adam Curry: right. We used to have a tennis racket made in
Pakistan
John C Dvorak: and Pakistan would buy our jets and India
would buy the Russian
Adam Curry: jets Yeah. And they'd fight over Kashmir
John C Dvorak: over one thing or another Kashmir being just
Kashmir just fight they would fight fight amongst themselves.
And in the irony, of course, is that there's just irony
everywhere with this arrangement. And now we're
trying to buddy up to India and Modi doesn't like this and that.
And now there's some some craziness going on. There are
some clips I get later. This is continue with this. The second
part of this,
Unknown: since Khan was has was removed from power what has been
Pakistan's position on the war in Ukraine?
We're all interestingly, the foreign office yesterday in
response to our story, flat out denied that they're providing
any weapons for the for the war in Ukraine. Nope. Nobody
believes that. We're not we're not the first to kind of report
on this. We're the first to confirm it with documents but
there has been There have been there's been plenty of video and
photographic evidence of munitions made in in Pakistan
that are being used who video in in the Ukraine war and the fact
that they're operating this, you know, multi 100 million dollar.
It's over a billion by now because our our data stopped
last summer. The production of the munitions war effort makes
it makes it clear that after Kahn was removed, Pakistan
became a reliable ally of the United States in this war. All
right.
Adam Curry: So here's the spook reporting on how a whole bunch
of other spooks kick Cohn out. Yeah, you're not you're not
John C Dvorak: that's a Yeah, railroaded out.
Adam Curry: This is what we call democracy.
Unknown: Pakistani democracy may ultimately be a casualty of
Ukraine's counter offensive. So why would the US and its allies
go to such lengths for Pakistan's allegiance to on
Ukraine? Oh,
Adam Curry: what do you think, John? What could it be? Why
would Pakistan go through all those links? Because they're
supposed to be our buddy, right? You just said it, then you do
you want our jets Pakistan? Then you gotta make some bullets? I
think,
Unknown: yep. When the United States has a primary foreign
policy objective, and in particular, when it's a war,
everything else falls away. And that's what you're seeing in
Pakistan now. And for Pakistan is the irony is clearly not lost
that the United States and is bringing together and of the the
the world to stand up for the defense of democracy and
sovereignty in Ukraine, while you know, quite deliberately and
openly sacrificing democracy in a country of 230 million people
in in Pakistan,
Adam Curry: man, Mr. Grim, no one buys it anymore. No one buys
it. No one cares. People want their potholes fixed. I do.
Yeah. Yeah. You got anything else on Ukraine?
John C Dvorak: I just have the NTD report on Zelinsky. It's
just kind of a wrap. No, that's worth.
Unknown: This is in D. D. Turning now to the war in
Ukraine. Speaking before the UN Security Council today Ukrainian
president flooded the lottery Solinsky urged the organization
this trip rod
Adam Curry: would just say is the Lansky you don't have to go
all out and say Kyiv and Volodymyr Iranian
Unknown: President flooded man with a lot of means linski the
organization or
Adam Curry: she's the homegrown honey, I screwed up I feel bad
and say right. Now when I see him, I'm going to shake his hand
he'll be like, Oh, you had a lady mispronounce my name. Oh,
it's so cute.
Unknown: Um, so today, Ukrainian president flooded man with a lot
of news. He urged the organization to strip Russia of
its veto power.
Therefore, the UN General Assembly should be given a real
power to overcome the veto. This will be the first necessary
step. It is impossible to stop the war because all efforts are
vetoed by the aggressor.
Solinsky added that he won't accept any peace deal unless it
requires Russia's complete withdrawal from Ukrainian
territory. He went on to accuse the UN of a willingness to quote
compromise with killers. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov
was not present for Zelinsky speech and Solinsky left the
meeting before Lavrov spoke later. The Ukrainian president
is slated to be on Capitol Hill tomorrow morning, he will be
meeting with the entire Senate.
Adam Curry: I hope someone stands up and just says hey, you
second rate actor go away. I mean, it's just all gonna be
this pandering. Thank you. Your Excellency, thank you for making
the dangerous trip here. From from the UN building. Now, it's
where you wish and meanwhile, I don't know about the rest of the
world but the United States of America was caught in the
biggest distraction.
Pay no attention anything but this people.
Unknown: It took nearly 28 hours to find it. But crews finally
started picking up the pieces from the crash of one of his
country's most sophisticated jet fighters. Boom. I mean, it's
scary to think that something landed that close our house, the
pilot of the marine F 35. injected Sunday afternoon, just
a mile from the Charleston airport. But the plane went
missing, forcing the military to tweet out an appeal for any
information on its whereabouts.
How does it just disappear? And how does the Pentagon ask for
the public's help in finding it? It's just a huge embarrassment.
The plane was one of two f 35 flying at 1000 feet as they came
into land when something went wrong. The pilot who objected
had already been discharged from the hospital. By the time the
$100 million plane was found 60 miles away yourself. David Burke
is a former F 35 pilot who once commanded the same unit, it
doesn't surprise you that a plane could have an emergency
serious enough for the pilot to eject and still be able to fly
another 60 miles. It's a
pretty rare event. But as uncommon as it might be, it's a
plausible thing. Even at 1000 feet, that's the nose was
pitched up or moving up, the jet will fly for many miles.
The F 35 is a stealth jet. Hard to track, especially because
it's transponder was on to standard procedure in a two
plane formation.
So it's very common in any way for the wingman to secure
meaning to turn off their transponder.
Adam Curry: All right, so let's just first of all we have we
have our own F Navy pilots. Then they all they all emailed me
saying oh my god, first of all, they email me all the funniest
memes the F 35 on the milk carton. knows all of that. Here
it is the pilot gonna
John C Dvorak: use that one. What's that? So they could use
that water for the newsletter? It
Adam Curry: was actually it wasn't that good. There were a
couple of them and there were some very funny ones. I liked
the one where it's for sale on eBay. You know, some of that is
good. And obviously the communications within our armed
forces are just no good so the fact that they put this out on
social media if you're just looking for but it was a good
distraction so most people that I saw it was hacked it was a
hack China hack to China hack trying to hack the God just
because you're trying to have the jet and then the funniest
that's a good one that was another good one on telegrams
like they found the pilots wallet, which means he didn't
really eject you landed it there and then the Chinese took it.
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, I did see the wallet while I was a
high roller.
Adam Curry: Here's the general take pilot had an emergency when
he slashy as possible step through the emergency procedures
that led the pilot to ejection as the only solution in the
emergency procedures matrix. Maybe we should not have bought
an expensive single engine fighter jet. If the autopilot
was on at the time of ejection is very feasible. The aircraft
continued on until out of gas or upset by something else perhaps
flying into a thunderstorm. Our F pilots say it's more likely
that the single engine flamed out could have been out of gas
could have just flipped flameouts happen and the pilot
was too low couldn't restart it punched out and these things
happen you know these things happen but it became such a Oh
such a conspiracy and now accentuated by I think the best
Central Casting did a great job. Did you see the F 35 crash
witness
John C Dvorak: oh the black guy
Adam Curry: oh this guy is the best
Unknown: and bad don't take it taking a shave. And I heard a
speech and saw that between a speech and a whistle
this house your bike says he didn't realize it was a plane at
the time so we didn't call anybody
enemy as much what's in the meter right come out of space or
something. And as they well they're playing it needs to be
reported but the thing flying is too low.
Adam Curry: is too low.
Unknown: Helicopters walk jobs keep flying around so it was
something somebody must have robbed the bank or killed some
people. I walked up there. It told me was
the plan. Do you have 35 B airplane wreckage created an
extensive debris field the wreckage is located off Old
Georgetown Road military security is very tight with
numerous red and white signs on the side of the road that read
No Trespassing this area has been designated a national
defense area
to the grace of God nobody get hurt because the church right up
there about a half mile
about a mile of Old Georgetown Road will be closed for an
unknown period of time
anything man making malfunction again the benefit of doubt but
it needs to be investigated and the public need to know what
really happened
Adam Curry: to us right public needs to know what really
happened by the way that scream he did I mean that was that's
just it's so good scream that's what let's let's compare
man goes good night guys. Good.
John C Dvorak: Country. South Carolina backwoods.
Adam Curry: I love this guy. I love him. He needs to he needs
people Drogon Rogan needs to get that guy on the Rogen. I'm gonna
tell Joe you need that guy on the show. For sure. You know the
F 35 has had problems and yes single engine flame out at a
1000 feet, you got a problem? And then the question is, how
far did it go? I mean, we don't know anything.
John C Dvorak: But boy oh, no anything. Oh, I
Adam Curry: did it was everybody obsessed with it? Not quite as
obsessed with the National alert, which should be taking
place on October 4, I think another on October 11. And we
had this during President Obama's time when he was going
to fire off the alert. Remember that? No. Oh, come on. It was
gonna be the everyone's cell phone. All the television
station
John C Dvorak: only vaguely remembered because of my
nothing. My house went off.
Adam Curry: Well, no, in fact, I recall that we were laughing
that half of it didn't work at all. But it was oh, hold Obama.
Yeah. Oh, and this is Ed, he's in there taken over our phones.
Well, there's a new one. And this, this was blanketing X.
There were there were entire text groups going around saying
make sure whatever you do, keep your phone off that you should
unplug your computer, unplug your television because that's
going to be bad thing
Unknown: a warning going around that on October 4, and if it
doesn't happen on October 4, it's going to be on October 11.
At 222. Eastern the emergency broadcasting system under FEMA
is going to be activated and the you know this is like the high
pitch be saying this is only a test it's not a test. It's going
to be sending these high frequency signals into cell
phones, radios TVs, the intention of activating
nanoparticles including graphene oxide, what does graphene oxide
and do to the human body? Well it induces cell toxicity through
plasma membrane damage generation of reactive oxygen
species and DNA damage. Damage any concentration above 20
micrograms per millimeter for 24 hours is considered toxic. Hold
up because this sounds like the movie the cell Israel is not
happy about this and supposedly they're doing some things to
stop it and maybe it will stop there but it's going to happen
in the United States.
Adam Curry: Calm down ladies. Calm down. People were seriously
freaking out about this. Oh no, it's going to activate the
nanoparticles. If you had the Vax, you're gonna die because
the graphene oxide will immediately create toxicity in
your body and you'll fall over dead this is what they're doing
this is it I just feel
John C Dvorak: comes up with this stuff that you have to
assume this is not who'd come up with that it just doesn't make
any sense.
Adam Curry: Well, I think you know what it is we've got a dog
bar yeah this Yeah, she there's someone at the door. We've
gotten to the point where through media and M five M and
alternative media Phoebe. People just don't trust their
government. And when when people lose trust in the government
then everything kind of goes out the door. But I mean like real
real loss of trust. And and what's the blahs anus about it
like Phoebe? Phoebe Come, come here. Just nanoparticles.
John C Dvorak: Maybe Phoebe's got a clue could be
Adam Curry: she's like, Daddy Daddy nanoparticles are
activated. So this just there is a loss of trust in government,
which was actually now man I'm gonna have to play a clip so I
can go deal with her.
John C Dvorak: It's just triggered by lies. Well, yes, of
government Lies don't help.
Adam Curry: But when but that Yeah, right. That's one thing
but then when we get to the complete loss of trust, then
people don't. I went to the city council meeting here. And yeah,
we actually we actually got something done no tax increase.
Good move, but the the the distrust and the disdain to our
mayor's a musician, you know, just a dude. And you know, but
okay, he's the mayor. And you can just see the hatred. People
hate like, This is bad. This is no good. I can see what they're
doing. They're putting onto the play, which of course most of
the time is true. In nowhere was this more evident than the
grilling of garland. This is another TV miniseries that
played out in in this was Congress. And I have three clips
that are just dynamite. But all by actors I have never really
seen. These are as far as I'm concerned. These are the
newcomers. Again, we don't do sag AFTRA writers we don't need
you. This is the play right here. We start off with
Representative van Drew, who is a Republican from the New
Jersey. He used to be a Democrat which I did not know. And he
brings up the Catholic traditional Catholic extremists
memo
John C Dvorak: is a decent clip. And garland freaks out
Adam Curry: so that so this is a memo from January 23. From the
FBI field office in Richmond, Virginia titled interest of
racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists in radical
traditionalist Catholic ideology, almost certainly
present new mitigation opportunities. FBI enrichment
assesses the increasingly observed interest of racially
and ethnically motivated violent extremists RMDs in racial
traditionalist Catholic ideology, for a wave of
opportunities for threat mitigation to the exploration of
new avenues for tripwire, and source development. In other
words, the FBI was sending undercover agents into churches
to root out these violent extremists.
Unknown: The actions of the DOJ are on you the decline of
Americans trust in our federal law enforcement is on you or the
pilot, political weaponization of the DOJ is on you, the
Attorney General I need a simple yes or no to the following just
yes or no, because we don't have much time. Do you agree that
traditional Catholics are violent extremists? Yes or no?
Let me answer what you've said in that long list. I'll be happy
to answer all of those attorneys. I control the time
I'm going to ask you to answer a controlled time by asking me a
substantial number of things. I didn't ask you those things.
Attorney General
John C Dvorak: hold on so this has got to end why these idiots
both Democrats and Republicans do this job yes and no yes and
no, they make a big point of it. And the guy never answers yes
and no and he's and the time he's trying to save is wasted.
But the back and forth that's now begins with sunlight you can
answer yes or no? What you have to answer yes or no. And it goes
this is the most ludicrous it's worse than like it's not even
good writing. I have to say
Adam Curry: writers writers writer room
John C Dvorak: because this is you know, answer yes or no. I'm
trying to make time my I only have tried so much time and the
time is wasted. bitching about your time and the yes and no and
the rest of it? I'm sorry.
Adam Curry: Were you confused with this being something that
is that is a real question and answer session. No, this is a
script this is a script to communicate something to the
American people and this I don't know
John C Dvorak: what to try to communicate with this I have yes
go they continue with this. This is what actually one of the
better exchanges because garland gets all bent out of shape about
it. If I'm not mistaken if
Adam Curry: there's there's a number of well
Unknown: Stansell a number of things and when I didn't ask you
those things. Attorney General through the chair I asked you do
you agree that traditional Catholics or violent extremists
have no idea what you're what the traditional means here?
Adam Curry: I love that. He's like got to think about
something that no one gave me this grip How come I wasn't
where's my sides
Unknown: had no idea what you're what the traditional means here.
Let me just go to church. Man. I answered your question just idea
that someone with my family background. Eric clarity
discriminate against any religion is so outrageous, just
so absurd. As your attorney general it was your FBI that did
this. It was your FBI that was sending and we have the memos we
have the emails, we're sending undercover agents into Catholic
churches. I am the director of said have said that we were
appalled by that memo then you agree that they're not extremely
we're appalled by that memo or they are not Attorney General. I
think are they extremists or not Attorney General in that memo is
with a extremist or not I'm asking a simple question say no
if you think that was wrong likes are not extremists. No.
Was anyone fired for drafting circulate circulating the anti
Catholic memo you have in front of you the inspection?
Divisions? Investigate tell me yes or no please. I don't have
no time. I don't know the answer.
Adam Curry: I don't know. Okay, not to be outdone. We have the
new Best New Actress. Where has she been all my life Victoria
spots from Indiana. And she hooks right into the Attorney
General being you know, from immigrant parents from Wesley
from Belarus or something.
John C Dvorak: I have no idea. Thanks. So
Adam Curry: now this This Congresswoman represents a
district in Indiana. And she is she was born in Ukraine. And she
is a Ukrainian American. And she has a dynamite look. I mean,
kudos on hair and makeup for for what they did with her here. She
has the perfect accent. And and of course, because of her
accent, she can take it all the way to you know, we're living
under a Stasi regime.
Unknown: Are you aware that a lot of Americans are now afraid
or be prosecuted by your department? Are you aware about
that? Are you aware of that? I'm just saying, are you aware or
not? By the way, she
Adam Curry: has the same script? Don't let him answer. Just Just
keep buffalo going all the way through.
Unknown: I think fed constant attacks on the department and
saying it's not
as high. So let me let me give you an exam. I don't know what
about January 6 People are here. Some people came on January 6,
there probably are some people that came in January 6 Here, you
know, that had bad intent. But a lot of good Americans from my
district came here because there are sick and tired of this
government not serving them. They came with strollers and the
kids come with strollers and the kids. And there was chaotic
situation because of this.
Adam Curry: This is good writing. There was chaotic
situation. This is perfect. Because you've already
forgotten. She's Ukrainian. You're already like she's
Russian. I mean, it's good.
Unknown: Not serving them. They came with strollers and the
kids. And there was chaotic situation because the proper
security wasn't provided. That's a question that was answered
really why? Why we debated for 45 minutes on the floor. And the
debate after the people broken into the Capitol. But these
people came they were throwing their smoke bombs into the crowd
withdrawal is good. People were showed up, you know, FBI agent
to people's houses. Do you have in my district in my town? FBI,
phone numbers all over the district police school call that
people are truly afraid. I just want to make sure if you're not
there, where is it? You are? And this is a big problem. And
people are afraid of their own government. And I'll show you
some other things. We're talking about justice system. I don't
question you probably not a bad person. I don't know you. But
Well, I'll tell you, you're in charge of the department. And
people right now feel you I look at Durham report and that cold
on the face of violations of clearance of millions of
Americans, right. It's like KGB, but then I read reports.
Adam Curry: You It's like KGB does come on. She's good. She's
doing her job. This is this. And what she's doing here is exactly
what Magga country wants to hear. But it's making people
more afraid of their government. But she is highlighting this
Justice Department, which seems to be quite a mess. Quite a
mess. I like when she brings in the KGB. But then the final one.
John C Dvorak: Well, I've got a couple two.
Adam Curry: You want to play some now? And then we can do?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, let's play. I want to get where they're
more. My favorite one is this one. This is garland stone
walls. And it's because of his usages I find fascinating.
Unknown: Now in that video, that was your answer to a question to
me two years ago, when I said how many agents or assets of the
government were present on January 5 and January 6, and
agitating in the crowd to go into the Capitol? And how many
went into the Capitol? Can you answer that? Now? I don't know
the answer to that question. It was last time. You don't know
how many there were or there were none.
I don't know the answer to either of those questions. If
there were any. I don't know how many. You know whether there are
any.
I think you've made it just perjured yourself that you don't
know that there were any. You want to say that again. Did you
don't know that
there were no personal
knowledge of this matter. I think what I said the last time
you've had two
years to find out. And today, by the way that was in reference to
Ray Epps and yesterday you indicted him. Isn't that a
wonderful coincidence on a misdemeanor? Meanwhile, you're
seeing the grandmas to prison.
Adam Curry: Grandmas in prison? Yeah, yes.
John C Dvorak: I have a sub clip of a of a garland piece but I
can't fish see where the garland pieces. I have cash. Cash.
Patel, Kash Patel was on NTD and he's one of the best spokes
persons for I don't know who he represents actually. He's a x.
Adam Curry: William Marguerite William Morris Agency, I think.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: well, he's really good. I've always enjoyed he is
playing these clips. This is a couple of his cash Patel and
going over garlin and all, the fact that he's Getting his tip
in the ringer. And he has some nice nice points to make
Unknown: before we get a clip. Garland is firing back at
congressional Republicans saying in his opening statements today,
quote, I am not the president's lawyer adding I am not
Congress's prosecutor. What's your reaction to his statement
here?
No, he's just President Biden's bagman. I mean, he can say that
he's not Hunter Biden's lawyer Joe Biden's lawyer and he can
say he's not Congress's lawyer. Those are fake news headlines
that CNN and the Washington Post will grab and say look at this,
a political administer of justice. But what you have to do
is look at his testimony coming out today, where he continues to
lie and Stonewall Congress, he has six congressional subpoenas
for documents that he still has not provided to Congress. He's
in violation of those which is a felony contempt of Congress.
He's never going to prosecute himself for that. And how about
the disinformation he continues to give Congress on whether or
not people interfered with the investigation into Hunter Biden,
and whether he participated in it? He just refuses to answer
these questions as if he if he, the Attorney General himself is
above the law. He's been charged to administer
Adam Curry: from an intellectual standpoint. Yes, Kash Patel was
good, but people to people in America, it takes him so long to
catch on to stuff it takes years and years and years for people
to finally go, Hey, wait a minute. Something's up here.
Something's not right. Like that guy who saw the F 35. He's like,
we deserve to know what's going on. It takes a long time. And
Kashmir takes
John C Dvorak: forever isn't I've been doing the show for 15
years. And we move maybe five people.
Adam Curry: That many
John C Dvorak: years, Kash Patel finishing up, I don't have the
more clips he went on for a while. And I will say that he
really made a good point that if the Congress cared, they would
they would throw the book at garland for not producing the
documents or even answering questions and they could they
have their own ability to do contempt of Congress, and
actually jail people. And they can also take their money away,
which apparently they've done in the past, which is to say you
can't you were taking so much money away from your agency if
you don't do this. And and they're not doing any of it,
which says to me that this whole thing is what you said at the
beginning. This is scripted on both sides of bull crap
Unknown: and cash. On that note when it comes to Hunter Biden
garland is saying he doesn't recollect if he spoke to the FBI
during that time.
Adam Curry: Have you had personal contact with anyone at
FBI Headquarters about the Hunter Biden investigation?
Unknown: Know, I don't know. I don't recollect the answer to
that question. But
is it possible that he wouldn't be involved given? That's the
president's son? Look,
look, I get that there's a lot of things the Attorney General
has going on and that come across his desk. But when you
speak about the ongoing investigation of the current
president united states, you can have Joe Biden's memory and
you're going to remember that one. And so I don't believe for
a second. He's not involved, just like we found out that the
White House and Joe Biden lied when they said they weren't
involved in the Trump prosecution, the White House
Counsel's Office pursuant to the direction of President Biden
relinquished executive privilege. So the DOJ could
prosecute Donald Trump, only one man in America can relinquish
that privilege, Joe Biden. And so this theme of lying and
covering up whether you want to call it unlawful activity or
corruption, the fact that the Attorney General the United
States is totally weaponized to me is the most dangerous thing
we can see in our system of justice. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's too intellectual.
John C Dvorak: No, I agree. But But I want to play this sub clip
from that's where garland made this very interesting little
remark. Garland sub clip from that quote that was in that
little piece, listen to this.
Unknown: No real I don't know. I don't recollect the answer to
that question, but
Adam Curry: I forgot my lines. I don't recollect the answer to
that question.
John C Dvorak: So he's asked a question. That's good. And he
says, I don't recollect the answer.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, you nailed it. That's exactly right.
Unknown: No, really? I don't know. I don't recollect the
answer to that question.
Adam Curry: Because we had the meeting. We had the table read.
I don't recollect I'm sorry. You got me. I don't have the answer
to that. I don't recollect the answer to that question. Yeah.
Now, they did bring out yet another actor. I don't know.
He's from Texas. Troy. nehls. Have you heard of this guy? And
eh, LS Troy nehls? Nope. How many congressmen do we have?
John C Dvorak: Lots four, or 400.
Adam Curry: And, and they gave him the monologue. They said
Troy. Troy. We like that little little tuft of hair you got on
top your head is bald but he's got this cool like little swirl
and when he looks down his pay pretty light. Oh, it looks
John C Dvorak: terrible.
Adam Curry: And I said, Troy, we want you to explain the whole
Burisma Joe Biden and bribery, quid pro quo. Here's your
script. Whatever you do, don't let garland say anything. Just
buffalo all the way through. You'll be great. Thank you,
Unknown: Mr. Chairman. Mr. Garland? What is a confidential
human source?
Well, that's an FBI term. I don't know all that
technicality. But
let me define it for you. It's in your own policy here. An
individual who is believed to be providing useful and credible
information to the FBI from any authorized information
collection activity, and from Who What the FBI expects or
intends to obtain additional useful and credible information
in the future.
Adam Curry: And by the way, pay attention to Representative Nels
voices, his intonation, he used his voice very effectively, a
very, very skilled actor. All right,
Unknown: and whose identity information or relationship with
the FBI warrants confidential handling. So these guys are
individuals you pay him $42 million a year. Did you know
that that the the IG said you're paying these sources 42 million
a year? Did you know that
I know, informants 42 million a year. So
do you believe that you're credible? They're valuable. The
FBI is using these guys. We're paying them a lot of money.
Would you agree with that?
I agree. Some are more very good. So there's
a lot of money. You got a lot of them out there.
Adam Curry: So good. I mean, this is a skit that is so well.
And kudos to garland by the way. He totally got it. And all those
lawyers behind them. They're all kind of snickering there the the
studio audience it was beautiful.
Unknown: So let me paint the picture for America, Hunter
Biden Jordans. Burisma in 2014. Bernie paint the picture as my
very, very corrupt Ukrainian energy company. He has no
experience in oil and gas. He admits it, sir. I don't have any
experience. I know why I'm there. I
Adam Curry: don't voices have a
John C Dvorak: dad doing it. He's doing a show.
Adam Curry: Yes. He's doing a whole bit.
Unknown: He has no experience in oil and gas. He admits it, sir.
I
don't have any experience. I
know why I'm there. I have a dad. I have with me a document
called the ft 1023. Have you seen this? You're familiar with
it? Used by the FBI, everybody in America teams by the FBI. It
is a confidential human source reporting document dated June
2020. You're familiar with it. In this document, the FBI is
confidential human source says Burisma. Now the corrupt company
needed to keep Hunter on the board. So everything would be
okay. And according to the human source, they hired Hunter Biden
to quote protect us through his dad for all kinds of problems.
Mr. Gardaland does that concern you? Okay, it should I got
limited time. Remember, your sources are credible.
Adam Curry: He even waits he even leaves the pause for
garland to open his mouth to Buffalo over him. It's great
clip coming clip coming
Unknown: at you and I got limited time. Remember, your
sources are credible, trustworthy, honest, and
valuable. Are you familiar with Victor Shokin? The document that
it was Mr. Victor Shokin. So I got three minutes left. You want
me to answer that? Yeah. Victor Shokin. Who is?
Adam Curry: I don't know to hit doesn't know who Victor Shokin.
Is? This is the best part. I don't know Victor Shokin. I've
never heard this name. I don't read newspapers. I never
listened to podcasts. I've never heard. There was TV Shokin. TV
was TV,
Unknown: the document that
it was Mr. Victor Shokin. So I got three minutes left. You want
me to answer that? Yeah. Victor Shokin. Who is I don't know to
prosecute. Oh, folks, he's the prosecutor. That was he oversees
all the corruption in Ukraine. We know there's corruption over
there. For the American people watch and after a few months, a
few months after Hunter Biden joined the Prisma board. Victor
Shokin, was named Prosecutor General for Ukraine to target
corruption, and one of his investigations was into Burisma.
In this ft 1023 document, the human source clarified that
Burisma CEO, the man in charge of prisoner said he has many
text messages and recordings that show he was coerced to make
such payment to ensure Victor Shokin was fired. Matter of
fact, there were 17 of them. Mr. Garland, it's clear Joe Biden
wanted Shokin fired so he would stop looking into Burisma where
Hunter was on the board. Would you agree? All right, let's let
the American people decide play the clip, play the clip and it
goes to
our clip. Remember going over
Adam Curry: he goes to the CFR clip which you might have why
this is we might as well play it because he's making his point
and it's beautifully done seen
Unknown: our team or others to convince you know that we should
be providing for loan guarantees. And I went over, I
guess 1213 Time to keep and and I was going supposed to announce
that there was another billion dollar loan guarantee. And I had
gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from to take
action against the prosecutor, and they did. So they said the
head of the walkouts press kind of said nice and I'm not gonna
we're not gonna give you the billion dollars. They said you
have no authority. You're not the president. The president
said, I said call him. I said, I'm telling you not getting the
billion dollars. I said, you're not getting the billion I'm
gonna be leaving here. I think it was, what six hours I look. I
said, well, even six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired,
you're not getting the money. Oh, son of a bitch. Got fired.
They put in place someone.
Adam Curry: So clearly, I just want to point out, someone in
the writers room is listening to no agenda because you called for
this very clip not but two shows ago.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's the clip. This is the clip. And so
there's clips been around for like years. Years and years and
the right wing is always pushing this clip. And for some reason,
the mainstream media has ignored it to this day, they still
ignore it. It's a minute
Adam Curry: left here. Mr. Attorney
Unknown: General, what you just saw there was Joe Biden, in his
arrogance and role as the vice president in this country saying
if you don't fire Shokan, the United States isn't given the $1
billion loan. Why would Joe Biden say that as the Vice
Premier, why would he say such a thing? Was it policy? Was it our
policy at the time? Yes or No? It wasn't. I have documents
here. Interagency Policy Committee data. Quantum
Information is The gentleman's time on my time pipe down. So
Shokin had made some he's made significant reforms. Shokin did.
Matter of fact, John Kerry says
Adam Curry: he was about John Kerry, another guy whose kid was
involved in corruption in Ukraine had made
Unknown: the last Texas he's made significant reforms. Shokin
did. Matter of fact, John Kerry says he was impressive. And you
know, within a few months after shocking was fired, they appoint
a prosecutor that said, we're not going to look in the Burisma
anymore, cancel it and forget it. We're not looking into
Prisma boom, here comes the million dollars. Bill Biden
threatened to Ukrainian president the Prime Minister,
everybody can see it the fire Shokan or the United States
won't give the billion dollars. If that is not quid pro quo,
sir. What is I will tell you what it is in America agrees
with me. It's bribery, and it's impeachable. Are you going to do
something about it? I bet you're not. And that's why you, sir.
Also need to be impeached. I yield back.
John C Dvorak: Yes, that was a Oscar goes to whirlwind
performance. This new guy, he's a new guy. Well, he's he's
trying to bring you know, Texas has always got one guy.
Adam Curry: This is the guy. Yeah, this is the guy, I need to
meet him. Hey, we got some more ideas for
John C Dvorak: you, you will get a word in edgewise.
Adam Curry: Now, all of this said, there is some danger on
the horizon to a degree for alternative media, you know,
like podcasts, although I think we're pretty safe. I figured out
the Russell Brand thing it took me it was bugging me. You know,
good. I was like, why, after 16 1516 years, you know, why is
this happening? Why did they pop this, you know, this something
is going on? And the the and this is mainly a British story,
although it concerns the United States as well, because Russell
Brand is, is very popular. And people have come to like popular
as a podcaster. Yes, people have come to like him. Now, the
backdrop of this is that the online safety bill is it was
going to be law in the UK, which allows the British government to
essentially just spy on everybody all the time. And, and
you know, it's the it's over free speech is done in Britain.
So that, I believe what is happening here? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
The whole thing. Just the naming of the bill is fantastic. I
know. They're always named, like, what is happening is there
is an awareness now that there is that they're losing out,
they're losing out to these other platforms. When I say
losing out, I mean, losing apps, they mainstream media is losing
out to other platforms. So they're losing advertising
revenue. And when I see when I say mainstream, it is YouTube
specifically. Just as a quick aside, Google is in the middle
of a antitrust lawsuit and all kinds of discovery is coming up.
And things like that additional or who was who runs the ad
business, said Monday he believes most advertised removed
to rivals like meta, or bite dances tick tock if Google tried
to increase prices by 15% While they were rigging the ad
auctions to raise them by five or 10%. It's Here's how you do
it. And they and they said, you know, hey, you know, we have
real competition. But they didn't mention the true
competition, which also involves the, you know, like the
backdoors, the censorship, the do what we say, which involves
politics. And the main one that they're going after right now is
rumble. And they're doing it in multiple ways. And rumble,
though, we have to understand that when used they,
John C Dvorak: they use they going after politicians,
Adam Curry: the politicians are going after rumble. And the
politicians and the news media is going after rumble. That's
they that's they and when I say they, it is the politicians and
the news media lackeys. So we have the correspondents from the
Culture, Media and Sport committee, writing to the CEO of
rumble, saying I am writing concerning the serious
allegations regarding Russell Brand in the context of his
being a content provider on rumble with more than 1.4
million followers. The culture Media and Sport committee is
raising questions with the broadcasters and production
companies who previously employed Mr. Brand to examine
both the culture of the industry in the past and whether that
that culture still prevails today. However, we are also
looking at his use of social media, including on rumble,
where he issued his pre emptive response to the accusations made
against him by the Sunday Times and channel fours dispatches,
and they're on and on and on. So that would you, we would be
grateful if you would confirm whether Mr. Brand is able to
monetize his content, including his videos relating to the
serious accusations against him. So they are trying to be the CEO
of rumble wrote back a letter, I'm appalled, we'll never do
that. But the gauntlet has been thrown down. If you don't remove
brand, we're going to de monetize you. We're going to go
after your advertisers. And it all came into view for me
listening to the news agents podcast, I've talked about this
before the news agents is a very, very successful podcast.
It's for top journalists from the BBC, you know, the ones who
have interviewed statesman and they kind of get together like
they're like they're in the news room discussing stuff, right.
And they have a USA version now as well. And it's owned by
global property. So it's it is a mainstream media podcast. They
are all in on this, because they do their Russell Brand. segment.
This is right after this all breaks. Do they talk about rape
allegations? No, no, no, that's not interesting. This is a
global player, original podcast.
Unknown: Hello there your awakening wonders. Now this
isn't the usual type of video we make on this channel where we
critique, attack and undermine the news in all its corruption
because in this story, I am the news.
That was Russell Brand on Friday night on YouTube. And I think
it's important to remind our listeners that for many people,
the first they ever heard about this investigation about the
sexual assault allegations was his pre denial on a platform.
That wasn't the Sunday Times that wasn't Channel Four. That
wasn't the BBC. It was him speaking directly to his
followers, his six and a half million followers. He says
that I am the news. That is true in more ways than one. Today. He
has been demonetized by YouTube content and old shows of his
have been taken down by the BBC by Channel Four. On today's
show. We're going to ask the question about whether any of
that for brand for his reach to the millions of people who
follow Him, online platforms, whether any of that really
matters. Can you really cancel Russell Brand?
Welcome to the news agents.
Adam Curry: So nuts to who cares about rape? No, no, no, we
John C Dvorak: don't care about that. I don't think he's been
charged either.
Adam Curry: No, as far as I know, he hasn't. But it's not
about rape. No, no, it's about his opinion, and monetizing his
opinion.
Unknown: I mean, when you've got a situation when you know
Russell Brand, I mean just to take some of his digital
followings. He's got 4 million on Instagram 2.2 million on tick
tock six and a half million on YouTube. And you know, when you
look at some of the things that some of his followers have been
saying over the weekend, in response to him, and you know,
the internet isn't necessarily real life, but it's always to
some extent, a reflection of a bit of real life and it is also
financial, financially lucrative and real life. You know, some of
the things were with you, Russell, I've been wondering how
long it would be until they they tried to pull this card with
lock crying emoji. I'm with you all the way Russell, they did it
to Assange. They tried it with Bernie Sanders. They did it to
Corbin they'll try and find anyone they find a threat. And
as we were talking about yesterday, this is where there
is the intersection between media and this new media
ecosystem and politics and the fact that our politics on both A
side of the Atlantic has taken this conspiratorial turn, where
players political players try and pretend they're a kind of
shadowy figures everywhere trying to undermine them. That
is exactly the same that Russell Brand is tapping into, to try
and exploit this moment and to try and survive this moment.
Adam Curry: This is the crux as far as I'm concerned, they
realize that a lot of people right and left are going to
alternative platforms, the new media platforms, as they say,
this other ecosystem, and they're getting a voice, they're
getting traction, and even D monetizing on the with our
friendly guys, because it's easy to D monetize someone on YouTube
and meta, which they won't talk about No, no tick tock, that
seems to be a problem. But this rumble thing is alternative
ecosystem.
Unknown: I think there are places that are a few like the
safety net, more than that the new ecosystem to this whole idea
of cancellations. So I was told yesterday that actually one of
the platforms in which Russell Brand is heavily monetizing is
rumble. And it was a site that I wasn't that familiar with never
heard
Adam Curry: of it. I'm a journalist, why would I ever
look at rumble I look at YouTube and x,
Unknown: it kind of tends to serve the right it tends to be
like Alex Jones, Steve Bannon, and this sort of Info Wars kind
of people. And Aha, I was told that Russell Brand is actually
getting millions from what he does there, whether it's
monetized or whether they're actually just paying for him,
because they find people who have exactly been shut out, if
you like, of the mainstream media, or shut out of the BBC or
channel four, or places that no longer want to work with him and
say, oh, right, let us be your home. And we will provide the
following for people who don't really want to be part of that
mainstream media landscape anyway,
Adam Curry: which is not that big a problem other than and
this is the this is the whole theme of same from the from the
Member of Parliament. Well, you can't he's monetizing he's, it's
okay to be an idiot somewhere on the internet, but you're
monetizing. This will not stand, Rumble has to go down.
Unknown: And so actually, half the stuff is going on that a lot
of people won't see they won't recognize they'll totally
forgotten about him. Right. I said, you know, the last few
nights I went on rumble last night. Oh, no, it was really
interesting.
Adam Curry: I went on rumble never never caught a rumble
video was really interesting, because
Unknown: I didn't know that he'd done the first interview with
Tucker Carlson, the fired Fox news presenter, he's interviewed
Ron DeSantis. He's, you never know that Russell Brand was so
tied in to what we think of as the sort of, I don't know, the
Magga voice or the American voice. And this suggests that,
you know, we will happily admit, we are probably missing parts of
these conversations where Russell Brand is flourishing,
and will continue to flourish. Whether or not the BBC removes
an episode of Qi.
Exactly. And that's what is I think that's what's so
fascinating about this, which is that yeah, I mean, I was trying
to wrap my brain this morning, I had some vague sense, I think
that he had gone down this kind of anti Vax kind of route and
had become kind of more eccentric, more kooky. But I had
no idea really, that he was this is someone I like to think,
right? That pretty plugged into the media, pretty close observer
of the media, but not that type of media. And this is the kind
of challenge to us in a way, right, is that we can all make
ourselves feel better by, you know, thinking, Oh, right. He's
been dropped by this, that and the other. And maybe it's not
applicable to loads of people. But for someone like brand, it
doesn't matter. And in fact, not only does it not matter,
arguably, it's helping it.
Adam Curry: They are beside themselves. They can't stand it.
They can't do it. The whole idea that there's traction and money
somewhere else that they don't control. And that's completely
in line with what the Washington Post did to Dave Portnoy.
They're going after advertisers, which is why I've always said
you can't monetize the network, Rumble will be in trouble. All
these centralized systems, but oh is rumble Oh, they when
rumble loses their advertisers. They will kick Russell Brand
off, or they will fold this
John C Dvorak: another keep in mind he just won't be he won't
be paid.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but but the ad what advertiser wants to be a
part of members of parliament writing letters. Advertisers are
skittish. I mean, okay, totally
John C Dvorak: skittish, and they're very sheepish Pearl,
clutching Gander bringing the worst.
Adam Curry: I mean, you have one Michael in Dell and in his
company, they really, I will say decimated in the sense of the
word as in baby 10 20%. They have they have hurt his
business. And he was like the go to guy Squarespace is not going
to step up for anybody know any Mattress Company is not going to
step up for anybody thinking okay, it's a little too hot
here. I've got politicians yelling at me and the wall
Washington Post. This is true. I mean, this is when you hear this
Have you seen what happened that you know Dave Portnoy from bars?
I listened
John C Dvorak: to Portnoy talking to the reporter Yes.
condemning her this woman Heil. And she was just like weenie of
the decade going on about well, how you deal well, and important
important noise a target because he's, he's a huge moneymaker.
Adam Curry: But the problem is, and I have a little bit of that
conversation because what the Washington Post reporter did,
because he's doing something called the pizza fest, whatever.
So and the pizza fests are sponsored by a number of
sponsors, and the Washington Post to mess with him, writes
emails, and this is this is tabloid journalism. I've been
through this exact thing. They don't interview Portnoy, they go
to his sponsors and say, Well, how do you feel about sponsoring
an event with a known misogynist? What what is
John C Dvorak: the word Miss Miss genic? Which is which is
slightly different than a misogynist. What is Miss genic?
Because he means you have a general distrust of women. Oh,
is there an actual I've not a hatred, but an actual word Miss
Jana hatred but a mistrust.
Adam Curry: Because I was looking because I thought he was
just mispronouncing the word. No,
John C Dvorak: no, that's a real word.
Adam Curry: mesogenic. Ca? Me, Miss genic. Okay. Well just
listen to a little bit because he calls her out on it. She
lies. And this is very typical, very typical of how today's
journalism is run, which is complete gutter. tabloid
journalism. This is how they do it.
Unknown: This is Emily. Hey, Emily. This is Dave Portnoy
calling. I'm recording you right now. But I've noticed a bunch of
people your it seems like you're sending. We have this pizza fest
happening on Saturday, and you're reaching out to our
advertisers. And you're basically sending an email that
says to the effect, Dave's mesogenic racist. Do you want to
defend yourselves advertising at this event? Right. I'm sorry.
What's your name? Dave. I'm sorry. Who are you? I'm the guy
you're writing the article about Dave Portnoy.
Oh, you're Dave Portnoy. Oh, hey, how are you? Good. Hey,
good. No, I'm not. I'm not. I haven't said anything like that.
I'm well,
I can read. If you want. If you want. I can read what you
actually sent. I have
Adam Curry: you actually find Miss genic in the dictionary? I
can't find it.
John C Dvorak: I found it. I'll get you to spell funny. Okay.
But by the way, he right. There is an important point because he
harps on this. She says no, I didn't write anything like that
lie. A lie. A lie? Because then he reads from hurts. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. That was just one Listen, one knows
Adam Curry: her reasoning is even better. She's great.
Anything like that?
Unknown: Um, well, I can read. If you want. If you want, I can
read what you actually sent. I have it.
Yeah. Because I sent a bunch of notes. So I want to make sure I
know
Adam Curry: what's in a bunch of notes. Because you know, I'm a
journalist from the WaPo. I'm above everything and everybody.
Unknown: Okay, we are planning to write about the festival and
how and how some of the sponsors and participants have drawn
criticism by seemingly to associate themselves with Dave
Portnoy, who has a history of mesogenic comments and other
problematic behavior. I want to make sure that blank had a
chance to respond to this as a company is the most prominent in
their partners of his festival.
Oh, that's the one I said, which was definitely the most pointed
of them, because I really did want them to respond. And I was
hoping to get something from them do.
Adam Curry: That's what that's what tabloid journalists. Do. I
want to I want to get them all riled up. Yeah, I wanted to
respond. It was that's why it was pointed. Okay. Because
Unknown: I really did want them to respond. And I was hoping to
get something from them.
Do you think that's fair? Like, I totally disagree with the
assertions of what you said that mesogenic and all that stuff. So
like, it kind of backs people into a corner. So I'm happy go
over anything. I mean, you have that is pretty pointed. You said
you didn't do it, then I have the exact evidence of you doing
it. So
I didn't say I didn't do that. I said I did. That was the one
that was the most
John C Dvorak: heard her say she didn't do it. Yeah. What
Unknown: before I before I provided proof, you said you
didn't really remember doing that. And then I read it to you
and you're like, oh, yeah, I did that one time. So you did do it.
I'm happy to talk about the comments because to me, it's
kind of like torturous interference. Like we're doing
an event. Everyone's happy about the event. You know, I've raised
50 million for small business. I've helped pizzas none of that.
It's Dave's mesogenic and problematic and I'm happy to
talk about it because to me, nobody would like if someone's
going around sending that email to their sponsors. And again,
you're in Like questioning you, you're it's almost like a
statement of fact, this is what I am.
Yeah. So I do want to talk to you about this
one, we're gonna reach out.
We are planning on doing it tomorrow morning.
Adam Curry: And what they will do tomorrow morning is. So a
whole, we've talked a whole bunch of sponsors, they say
your, your mesogenic, whatever that means. We need you to
respond, we have a 1pm deadline. That's how it works.
Unknown: So you're gonna write the article, and then give me
like, I've had that a bunch people write a full article, and
then give me the points after now we're
doing a bunch of reporting, and we wanted to make sure that when
we finally did talk to you, we could really kind of present
what you know, or talk about things more fully,
Adam Curry: more fully. Like, what? What interests me is, she
really thinks she's doing her job. She thinks she is doing
journalism, she truly believes this is right. This is
righteous. You're a dick. We God's true. She she really
sincere is
John C Dvorak: the word you're looking for. Thank
Unknown: you sincere Is that what you know, or talk about
things,
John C Dvorak: guys like this, this guy's like this, you know
that? Okay, she comes in, and then she's starting to, you
know, these trying to bully her and but she's righteous, she's
righteous,
Adam Curry: righteous, like, why
Unknown: like, it sounds like you have your opinion made me
based on that email.
So look, I just want you to know that this is, I want to talk to
you a little laugh in there.
Adam Curry: God, this guy, mail. Oh, so look,
Unknown: I just want you to know that this is not. I want to talk
to you about this. But I
think you should talk to me before sending that email.
What I wanted to do is I wanted to talk to you when we had some
specific questions for you. So I wanted to kind of have the full
idea of what we've asked on a full idea.
Adam Curry: That's how you do journalism these days. They're
going after advertisers. That's my that's the bottom line.
They're gonna go after everybody's advertisers. Google
is backing them. Google wants tick tock out Google wants
RUMBLE, RUMBLE is apparently something some force that
they're worried about. And in today's extreme downmarket, they
will help I have no doubt that meta platforms will help. What
can we do? Well, first just pulled the plug, okay, we've the
platform, but we don't really want to, you know, take them
off, because that'll start a ground. So no, don't worry about
just no money for you brand. Okay, now we have to go to the
other platforms, they're gonna go after all of them, and they
will succeed. Advertisers will walk away from this.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Most of them will.
Adam Curry: Well, not enough will stay to make it
John C Dvorak: will make the net that wants to stay or be
stretched too thin, because everybody will want to want
their help.
Adam Curry: You know, in a funny way you do. It works in a funny
way. The only way, the only way is the RSS. Everybody needs
their own feed creator and aggregator. We have to go back
to technology from 20 years ago. It's all going to come tumbling
down. Like it is and this is why we're who we are. Sure we are.
Now value for Vallisneria. Legs. Hairy legs. It's Oh, man.
John C Dvorak: Well, before we get in the whole thing about
broadcasting in these in the old media, I dug up a a clip from
1961. Who will just ruin the early days of our show. And
Adam Curry: I remember them well. My dad's a telescope. Yes.
John C Dvorak: This is a famous, there's a archive of all these
great speeches. And I found this guy, Norman Minow, who was the
head of the FCC in 1961. And this was his vast wasteland
speech. And he was giving a talk to the NAB, which was
Adam Curry: a nation of broadcasters.
John C Dvorak: And so this is 1961 him complaining about the
broadcast about TV. Mainly, he was just bitching about TV. And
this is, what 62 years ago. And I would like to play this in and
ask people if anything's really changed,
Unknown: but when television is bad, nothing is worse. I invite
each of you to sit down in front of your own television set when
your station goes on there. And stay there for a day without a
book, without a magazine without a newspaper, without a profit
and loss sheet or a rating book to distract you. Keep your eyes
glued to that set until the station Chuck signs off. I can
assure you that what you will observe is a vast wasteland. You
will see a procession of game shows formula comedies about
totally unbelievable families. Blood and thunder, man violence,
sadism, murder Western bad Midwestern good men, Private
Eyes, gangsters, more violence and cartoons and endlessly
commercials, many screaming, cajoling and offending, and most
of all boredom, truly, you'll see a few things you will enjoy.
But they will be very, very few. And if you think I exaggerate, I
only asked him to try it. Is there one person in this room
who claims that broadcasting can't do better?
Adam Curry: That's a good clip to bring back and evergreen for
sure. Yeah, and the same as the Doom scrolling on social media.
It's exactly the same. Well, we have one one thing wasn't in
that clip. men dressed as women when women dressed as men. They
didn't have that as much back then. In 19,
John C Dvorak: yeah, they had quite a bit of it. Actually.
Milton Berle was always coming out as a woman.
Adam Curry: Well, there you go. Nothing. The only thing
John C Dvorak: that even during the 60s when you had the guy in
the mash TV sitcom, who's always dressed as a woman, clinger
calling a ringer,
Adam Curry: yes, you're right.
John C Dvorak: It's your rights as it never really knew.
Adam Curry: Well, the only thing that's new is the collapse of M
five M CNN. Their total viewers for the weekend slate of shows
including state of the union with Jake Tapper, Danna bash,
and Fareed Zakaria each show how many viewers do you think each
show polled this weekend on CNN. So
John C Dvorak: they got more than the asterisk.
Adam Curry: I don't have a rating number I have a total
view number for them.
John C Dvorak: Okay, whether they have number Musa was is
beyond the I would say 50,000 each. Ooh, 55,000.
Adam Curry: Very close. Very close. 55,000 Yeah. Now MTV
Video Music Awards. Its highest rated in three years. Among the
18 to 49 demographic, what rating point do you think they
scored
John C Dvorak: highest to three years to get it to
Adam Curry: 1.03 Cheese 800,000 people in total tuned in to
watch the award show on MTV. That's failure. That's failure.
Now of course they they they're big numbers we have 1.8 billion
minutes consumed.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is the latest I love this by the way.
Adam Curry: What advertise you know who's eating everybody's
lunch? There's only one company that is really winning with
advertising. And that's Amazon. Because Amazon has an
advertising network that they can tie back to direct purchases
of the product. Amazon is you can't go wrong with that
technique. Everybody's ass and they're beside themselves. They
don't know what to do and it's collapsing so more reason to
support your value for value podcasts. And with that I'd like
to thank you for your courage they in the morning to you the
man who put the sea and carbon up Ukraine ladies and gentlemen
say hello to my friend on the other end. His Excellency the
honourable Joe
John C Dvorak: in the morning to you excellency in the morning
all ships see boots on the ground feed near subs in the
water. All the names and nights out there in the
Adam Curry: morning to excellency in the morning for
the trolls and the troll room. Let's have a count there. Hanjo
cows 1095 2095 We are down. We are down. But we're not out. Is
that mean? We're
John C Dvorak: down is Thursday.
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry. I'm confused. It's up. We're up.
We're winning. We're winning 200 Trolls more than we expected.
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John C Dvorak: and you won't be able to find him. And for and I
hate
Adam Curry: to say it, but there'll be more void zeros who
pop up. They cannot stop you. They cannot stop you when you're
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good things there. I noticed the memes have slowed down. I think
my my campaign worked.
John C Dvorak: No, I think the memes have slowed down what
Adam Curry: the memes are just no good. So there's no
advertisers to go after, which of course means the news agents
will never talk about us, which means we don't get Daniel that
mass market appeal. But that is so 2010 to be number one of
something to be on the paid the homepage of iTunes, we need we
need discovery mechanisms. Now. No trolls, you are the discovery
mechanism. You go out you hit people in the mouth, you tell
them about the show. And we give this value to you completely
free of charge. There's no levels, no premium content,
don't have to listen through advertisements, all we ask for
is that you send some value back actually, the the value I
appreciate the most, although it doesn't pay the bills. But what
I appreciate is when people say, Hey, you guys really saved my
butt. Now, don't you love that when
John C Dvorak: people say that? So it's pretty funny.
Adam Curry: I was like, it's like, hey, you know, without you
guys die, be dead. Some people simply I'd be dead. Some people
have said that, you know, or, or I would I would be in a worse
situation or I wouldn't have kept my eyes out for this.
That's the kind of value in the time, talent and treasure that
we like so much. We also appreciate people doing things,
creating jingles, boots on the ground reports, clips, we have
so many people who do so much for us. That's the only way that
it works because we don't have rumble money. If we just don't
have brand money, though, instead, you bring it to us. You
you help us do that as producers. No one here is a
listener you are only a producer of the best podcast in the
universe. That typically we get a lot of value from our artists.
And I would say it's only once in a blue moon. Unfortunately, I
jinxed it by talking about it. We had to resort to an evergreen
for the artwork for episode 1591 titled half jacked. That's
hyphenated.
John C Dvorak: I think it's interesting that Paul couture
took the evergreen and put it on the on the right page in the
section for the art
Adam Curry: but because he's providing tremendous value with
the no agenda rt generator.com service. me there's no denying
that space cat had done this a while back. I'm going to say
that might have been during Valentine Day.
John C Dvorak: Via but maybe two years ago, that long ago. I kind
of is an old piece.
Adam Curry: Let me see. It's possible now. Because space CAD
hasn't started submitting since May 1 2022. So no, I don't think
it was
John C Dvorak: less less last February then but we
Adam Curry: could not okay, here's the main thing. I go to
the no agenda art generator.com webpage. Now when you go to no
agenda Art Generator calm. The first thing you see is the
standing the ranking, which is fun. There's important updates
all kinds of information, then you go into submitted art the
past couple of months. The minute I see this page, all I
see is AI now it's not all AI, but the majority is just people
sitting at home doing AI stuff. Mostly AI mostly. And it's
boring. I mean, we looked at
John C Dvorak: well, you have a theory that you do. Or we both
have the theory, which is that? No, I think this is yours. The
AI is keeping real artists from submitting anything right
Adam Curry: because people see some beautiful piece and they
all kind of
John C Dvorak: I mean they're well done, but they're not.
They're not.
Adam Curry: They don't have the X factor by far. I mean, it was
so bad. You went like Yeah, how about that? No agenda target
logo from dirty jersey.
John C Dvorak: The one I picked for the newsletter.
Adam Curry: That was the best one.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what I thought.
Adam Curry: I just thought it was so plain. I mean, can we
have something?
John C Dvorak: No, it's riddle. It was like a classic evergreen
type piece of art. That just doesn't say anything doesn't
have any thing that is the giveaway like about archery, it
would make more sense, but it was pretty.
Adam Curry: The giveaway is when people take a picture of a
person. And then you know, like, do this with Russell Brand. Now
they're telling AI What to do now. Gus, not Safia, ski FOSS
ski FIFA. He is not doing AI but he's doing a style that we
already did once and we even told them like, this is one
Surfer Magazine art Yeah, it's like once in a blue moon we'll
do that but we think we just did a piece like this.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's also good kind of Surfer Magazine are
cross dressing with kind of a kidnapping do
Adam Curry: Yeah, and it's not bad. But it's
John C Dvorak: you know, it's nice, but it's not we're not
going to pick this for another for a year. Exactly. It's exist
stylized. Exactly.
Adam Curry: It'd be like picking a cheesecake every single show
right now and also,
John C Dvorak: we don't do that almost don't talk a big game but
we don't do all the
Adam Curry: stuff that has hippie dippie colors like we
know what you're doing. But it's crowding out the true artists.
And I think it's been a severe degradation. And I Yes, I'm just
looking at the names. Where are our classic artists while
certain that Ned gave it a try? But just didn't quite hit it
with a no agenda lifesavers although I understand what he's
trying to do the day Yeah, like we're lifesavers but it's just
like it was a three flavors you know it's kind of been kind of
done and then Dame Kenny been outstanding artists get shows us
a but Does she really think we're going to show it we're
going to put a but as artwork.
John C Dvorak: I didn't even look at who did that I had
James. She's good. It's assumed it was comic strip blogger
WooCommerce or Blogger should
Adam Curry: be banned. Look at what he's all it's all common
should blogger all the Russell Brand stuff and I think that
pollutes it. People go in and whatever. Oh, they'll never see
the subtleties
John C Dvorak: are saying comic strip blogger is a polluter.
Adam Curry: He's a he's an art polluter? Yes, he's an art
polluter. Content. No,
John C Dvorak: this was a bad selection. It was it was
Adam Curry: I do have wasn't any good. Do you have a follow up
for our donation segment? You know, correct the record. And
also the, the something something topic for Dummies
books. We've also done that so many times. So he said
contacting the IRS for dummies.
John C Dvorak: It was it was a chuckle. Yes, we've done way too
many dummies books. And that wasn't one of the best
presentations of it.
Adam Curry: I had a follow up from our producers who were had
been targeted by the the IRS AI system. And they just wanted to
say of course, if you can get a hold of the IRS, of course you
get a hold of someone. But this is a part of their automated
under reporter system, which is a real thing. I have certainly
talked to people at the IRS, they literally cannot help you.
First they don't even appear to understand basic accounting.
They cannot and will not put me in touch with the department
that runs a system. All they are authorized to do is put a note
in the account and hope that someone in the office in Philly
reads the note. Even if I went down to the nearest IRS office
they are powerless to do anything about the case because
it resides within the AU our department where you can only
interface through the mail, mailing them documents which
I've sent them to boxes seems to result in them not reading the
documents sending me another letter saying I owe 10 times my
annual revenue in taxes. So there is frustration and I got a
lot of people with similar similar problems.
John C Dvorak: Time to talk to your Congressman. Yeah, that guy
from Texas. That guy from
Adam Curry: Texas is the go to guy that's the guy you want.
Yes. And you and your congressman should be doing
something about it. For sure. So while it was a a best of
evergreen, we do want to thank space cat can we look forward to
let me see what we have now. Let me just take a um looks like
people are doing some cretin more creative stuff here for
today but comics are blogger polluting again. polluting
polluting is polluter. Love him, but what a polluter. So we'll
see. We'll see what we liked the concepts. We like when people do
smart things. You know, when people look at the art and go
oh, man, that makes so much sense. Oh, that's funny. I can't
wait to hear that episode. That's what we're looking for.
When you To say
John C Dvorak: yep that was say that's probably as a summary as
good as summaries go
Adam Curry: all right so we'll see how they do for today's
episode but thank you everyone who tried Thank you comments
your blogger for trying but try and limit it limit it to
something your best piece yeah one good one and one good one No
don't when you do three Russell brands that tells me you're just
like hitting the regenerate you know I have this stuff I got it
running at home now I find I got a I got I got 11 large language
models they all they all suck
John C Dvorak: to what you using it to write or what are you
using it for? I
Adam Curry: can use it for art I have one for a model for
creating art so I did like what is it what
John C Dvorak: brand
Adam Curry: yet? Well the name of the model I would have to
give you that it's not a brand so I have all the last
somebody's
John C Dvorak: got to do the software it has to have a
company name and no it doesn't no that's not just have a big
database. It's just sitting there random No, you have
Adam Curry: the the large language model you had the large
model. And these are all open source I told you this is the
open source all of this which is why it's a joke. No, there's I
have to tell you which ones we have we have the Misao Max l
213. B That one seems to be reasonable but it's all horrible
here the news hair mess llama two, we've got the Hairmax llama
two seven B the dolphin llama two seven B Samantha one one
llama seven B code llama seven B instruct mark three BV to
Griffin three B John it all is lame. It sucks it's no better
than Lisp and C Plus Plus this it's not this not outstanding.
It's it's a big scam. It doesn't work well. They don't you want
to does it actually if you say find something in Scripture
about this topic, it does a pretty decent job.
John C Dvorak: Other biblical? Yeah.
Adam Curry: I mean, there's so many there's so much written so
many Bibles that are available open source is kind of an open
source products that were out of a mind. You know what I mean? It
works. That works pretty well. But everything else? It it lies
it hallucinate. It's just wrong. It's wrong and if you have it
right something Oh my god. Any professional writer rolls their
eyes at this flowery language.
John C Dvorak: Like to have it right wine reviews, it probably
do the job of these wine reviewers like to go on and on
and on about weird so
Adam Curry: that's a good idea. I'll do a wine review with with
with with my AI and I'll read it to you on the next show.
John C Dvorak: I'm sure Yeah, it'll be it'll be a winner.
Adam Curry: I'm sure you'll laugh your ass off. And we have
some AI stuff coming up later. But first let's thank the people
who brought us the treasure and our value for value model, which
means we get to pay some bills. We kick it off with our top
executive producer. Pass out Robles. No, I'm sorry. That's
the town. We kick it off with James Jackson. From Paso Robles,
California $1,000 Instant night what is what is going on here?
There's no note I have no note from him.
John C Dvorak: I got no note.
Adam Curry: Hold on. Let me see. I think Jay sent something
John C Dvorak: I don't know she talked about David the next one
on this.
Adam Curry: So we have nothing from him.
John C Dvorak: No, we got nothing.
Adam Curry: Oh man. Send us a note. Let us know in the
meantime, thank you very much. Here's a double karma double
John C Dvorak: karma so we ended up with David from Scottsdale
Arizona there's a note about him. She made a mistake calling
it line to his line to on her sheet. Data man John, thanks for
what you do. I noticed that 100 shows have already passed as my
last donation 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue I thought
I better write a note this time because last time John kept
calling out repeatedly is David dare do we have a note from
David? Hello David. Yes, David. Well if this if that technique
generates $1,000 I should do it more often. This should make me
a Baronet. Now investigate getting my ring. So Shea's going
to get a night in first and then upgrade it
Adam Curry: okay so all right so we do night who the knighting
before the upgrade got it so we reversed the order no
John C Dvorak: jingles and stuff. Thanks David from
Scottsdale PS I have a slightly used F 35 I'm trying to sell if
you know anyone interested. $1,000
Adam Curry: Thank you David. Mark min minute. taglio minute
taglio Mark minute taglio Corpus Christi, Texas. Just a bit down
the road 333 dot 33 I asked you too deduce me on my first
donation so I have nothing else to say. I love that Mark. Thank
you. That's a perfect note. Good
John C Dvorak: luck with it just came in as his first donation.
Do you wish you've been de deuced? Chris illustre who's in
Cincinnati, Ohio? I'm sure it's pronounced slightly differently.
No jingles no karma. That's nice. This is a bar Mo and a
donation Barnhart to mow facts and no agenda most savage 45
episodes a must listen. Read slash blue tie Trump. Well
that's as old the red tide is supposed to be this word. Forgot
I don't know if momentous is but there was. They did now I think
is defunct or passed away comedian whose name is eluding
me black guy that said the red tide Trump was the real trump
the other ones a second was brought me to my second best pot
cast in the universe as a traditional Latin Mass Catholic,
and spod cast our cast Catholic moonshine and eternally
relevant. Any show with nurse Claire or Dr. Beep are certainly
medically relevant. I've always looked for Dr. Beep. Chris over
Hughes in Cincinnati, Ohio 33333
Adam Curry: and Barnhart donation give them that because
it started with a Barnhart Yeah, I know exactly. You're talking
about on the tip of my tongue. I can't remember it either. It'll
come to me sir. Tar Heel is in Leland North Carolina. 333 33
John natum. I've been on a month sub. For 10 years at $10. I've
had numerous 33 triggers lately, reminding me to kick in some
executive producer love after getting back to 33 and 133.
Order. Gregory de Dick Gregory. Thank you. He may still be
alive.
John C Dvorak: Oh no, I don't think so.
Adam Curry: After getting back to 33 and 133 Order Number
posted notes from Culvers drive thru I had to pitch in. This
also bumps me to Baronet. I would like an F cancer and
retirement karma. After 23 years with the largest dredging
company in the US I need to spend more time with my family
following multiple friends and colleagues dropping dead from
cancer and or massive heart attacks on us. No good luck.
Well, you know what, you got to stay active when you retire.
That's the trick, you know, cluttering you know, as if
neatly start doing something active. Luckily, I was able to
get by with force j&j Instead of mRNA. they cease pointing the
finger. My best friend just dropped dead from stage four
colon cancer at 49. Then within weeks, my grandfather died from
a sudden onset stage for bone cancer in his spine. Not sure
how many people have to drop dead around us from heart
attacks and turbo cancer before someone has to answer for it.
Thank you never 20 years from now. Thank you for all your
deconstructions over the years and look forward to more sanity
inducing hours of content. Add a JC D donate donate. Ghostly
version. Yes of course.
That's one that's that chime that chime that really that
programs people's brains
John C Dvorak: you can read the next one is blown out my
spreadsheet the notes too long,
Adam Curry: anonymous spirit from Tomahawk, Wisconsin. 333 28
Anonymous spirit of the north woods here had been too long
since the last donation but a birthday switcheroo for my first
human resource. The bar barista on a second so I put that in
here. The bar by restart Okay. All right. The barber barista
has been switched to rude it's good reasons any add him to the
birthday list as he turned 28 on the 17th switch. What are you
drinking?
John C Dvorak: I heard gone to shoes. It was on sale at Costco.
Topo Chico
Adam Curry: Oh Texas favorite Topo Chico is double Juke.
John C Dvorak: It's over carbonated. That's why we like
it. We like to burp a lot. Yeah, it makes you burpple does.
Adam Curry: You know, like people will come into our house
and say you want something to drink? And you see you want some
water? Yeah, you got Topo Topo. Totally. We call it a topo.
Yeah, I bet you do. Don't call it a topo. This which route
takes him two thirds of the way to knighthood and if he cracks
open his wallet and spend some of that tax free tip money he
could get his title and ring before me. The competition has
been really wanting to send a boots on the ground regarding
working for a Euro company in the US and all the wokeness and
aggressive venture capital, Lean management craziness that
abounds up boots on the ground. You guys are spot on in terms of
your take on the Japanese Lean management stuff. And it's
interesting to see how they've turned it from a tool to flip a
company into a tool to squeeze the last drops of blood out of
US companies as interest rates rise service on debt squeezes
and m&a opportunities subside. Yep, it's all over. There you
go. Now is likely the worst time in all of history to work for a
large corporation and I feel bad for the young people because I
see it getting a lot worse before it gets better. Glad I
see the light at the end of the tunnel. Oh, that's kind of you
kind of contradict yourself there. Thanks for all you do no
jingles but jobs karma because I hate mine. Jobs,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, I forgot the F cancer force or Tar Heel.
Let me do that. You've got karma?
John C Dvorak: I think by light at the end of the tunnel he it
meant he's going to quit.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Yeah, he's he's quitting his job.
John C Dvorak: Yes, my guest Matthew Grisham is up next and
he's in Zephyrhills Florida. Yes. Interesting.
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is three this is the star Hill hemp guys.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yes. Thank you for amazing shout out for
the crew here. It's star Hill hemp. We also want to thank to
get mo nation rally support the influx of orders with the ITM 33
promo code has been very uplifting, along with our
amazing gummies we have been concocting something here. Else
something else here in the lab, a scheme to ruin your exit plan.
Adam Curry: Okay, all right. How's that gonna work?
John C Dvorak: For those that stick around for the donation
segment we will change the promo code to jacket 22 That to use
with a d d a d u c k i t 22 with a 22% discount. For those that
don't too bad in keeping with the spirit of 33 and extra 11%
of the End discounted price of every sale will be sent to the
best podcast in the world. Oh there you go. Are the
universitari that's gonna
Adam Curry: keep us from an exit strategy
John C Dvorak: we got well let's cut it early. gotta chew a lot
of gummies a lot of gummies it is fine to mention our kratom
nano gummies we only need to exercise caution on the
transaction so we're in the process of listing them on Star
Hill hamp.com Anyone may ask for them directly by emailing us at
info at Star Hill hamp.com and we will set up a straw purchase.
This does wink wink nudge nudge should sound
Adam Curry: legal.
John C Dvorak: Does it sound right oh no I don't like can we
get some sales karma? Yeah, we can give you that? Yeah,
Adam Curry: no problem. That's legal. We can do that for you.
You've got karma. What is it nano kratom nano gummies
activated by the Emergency Broadcast System? No doubt. Sir.
Sunder is in Zaandam 333 Triple making rainbow nation with
special greetings to Bambi I miss her. I miss her. He says
for the best podcast in the universe. XX are sounder from
Zaandam, the Duke of Switzerland. Thank you. Thank
you very much, sir song,
John C Dvorak: sir Mr. Bob dough Ballina, W. Bob Dole Molina in
San Diego, California bilena
Adam Curry: W
John C Dvorak: dot bilena Billina. John, I sent an email
regarding Nashville's Town Hall regarding guns as public health
emergency and infectious disease Yes, I did get deaths very
interesting. And a new report that calls human remains found
at Catholic schools in Canada a hoax be well guys now I will
mention this. You remember that story from a few years back? I
should read this email. I had to dig it up. Maybe read it later.
That you know, they found that Catholic bunch of Catholic
schools had a bunch of dead native native Canadians, you
know, indigenous Canadians had found them they dug them up the
Pope came over and everyone's apologizing left and right. Well
now turns out to be a complete hoax. Including the the pope got
hoax. Everybody got hoaxed a pope hoax and so they then no
one's covering this part of it of the hoax because it's like
oh, geez, we got embarrassed because there was all over this
gets burned the Catholics because they kill these kids.
Bullcrap
Adam Curry: who did who came up with
John C Dvorak: it, there were never bones there in the first
place. He says it was all a phony determination by ground
penetrating radar.
Adam Curry: Oh, even better. Send me a copy of that. I want
to read that.
John C Dvorak: I will send it to you. Now. I'll try to dig it up.
I'll read it on the show later.
Adam Curry: By the way, this is great for the donation segment.
This really spices up the whole program. Appreciate that Mr. Bob
double Lena Lee is in Green Bay, Wisconsin to 23 dot 23. He's our
first Associate Executive Producer, and this donation
qualifies him for knighthood. He says I wish to be dubbed the
cervix have the long position. I guess he invest in the VIX. Then
ETF the VIX is that what that's called?
John C Dvorak: No No but yeah, well it's kind of the VIX is
really just just a creation it is a creation that reflects the
volatility in the market doesn't even exist it's like a bitcoin
is kind of just like
Adam Curry: Bitcoin it's just like Bitcoin thank you for
John C Dvorak: very similar
Adam Curry: How was Bitcoin How was the VIX different from
money? Isn't doesn't money not exist either? I mean, isn't that
just
John C Dvorak: I can Yeah, get a hold a bill. I don't want to put
it my mouth.
Adam Curry: She said, Okay. Hey, Annie wants venison and verm
Vermox what's Vermox?
John C Dvorak: I don't know what Vermox is. I have no idea
Adam Curry: vermouth. I know. But Vermox venison. It's well,
well, we'll taste it later. That'll be at the roundtable for
you. Hope to see everybody at the Green Bay meet up this
Saturday, Jill's bar 3pm Note forthcoming. We look forward to
it. Lee. Thank you.
John C Dvorak: Carl Nagle in Hempstead, North Carolina to a
164 about my magic number. It's the cash back from my credit
card that I never use. How does that work? For everyone out
there with a credit card that's just sitting out there with
money on it? I bet there's tons of listeners with balances who
could elevate themselves to the level of not a douchebag like
me. I'm in North Carolina not commie Fornia love the show.
Adam Curry: Does Carl need to dilution for this?
John C Dvorak: I think he does. You've been de deuced
Adam Curry: and Nathan the ra ta ro TA and Eureka River, Alberta,
Canada Navia 200 In the morning from the lamb that doesn't burn
books. Adam here's something you can refill your biscuit tin.
John, the Obama clip was yuck. Thank you both for making the
news digestible and forgive me for pod stealing. That means
that d douching is no longer a pod. See, thank you for your
courage.
John C Dvorak: You've been D deuced. And last on our list is
Linda Lou Pak and in Lakewood, Colorado, she was jobs Carmen
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the 50s and we'll get into our meetups and more second half on
the way too.
John C Dvorak: And before I do that, I want to thank you, sir
1010 Jelenia and Renegade for sending me the the uttama tau
whatever it's called. Oh, before noisemaker that will be his
batteries.
Adam Curry: And I need to thank our our night from the wood from
the wooden watches once he said hold on a second. Let me get it.
He sent it to me, John. I have axehead watches you know, he's
sir Mike. Sir, my writer of MIT and he sent me the Karmapa Lee
game. Oh, I
John C Dvorak: want a copy of this.
Adam Curry: This is the only one in existence. though. He
John C Dvorak: sent us a prototype. He sent
Adam Curry: me the prototype. It's hilarious. I think he
should restart the crowd for now. Why? crowdfund people would
pay money for this. Give a piece of it to the show. It is a
Hulett he went he tried to raise $20,000 That's the you know,
that's a that's a that's a hard one for crowdfunding. It is. I
mean, he's got everything in there. Tina, you're gonna play
it with some friends. It is it is. I mean, it's just it's
monopoly only no agenda style. It is a dynamite piece of work.
He put a lot of work into this. And not only that, but the the
demo version. This this first print up he got has a typo. So
it's a complete collector's item was a typo. I couldn't find it.
But he says it's out there. So he says it's a typo. I haven't
been able to find it. It's just a beautiful piece of work. I
mean, please, sir Mike,
John C Dvorak: I start doing it. What is the Monopoly game
normally sell for?
Adam Curry: I don't know. Actually. Let's
John C Dvorak: look it up we can consult the book and knowledge
or consult the book of Amazon
Adam Curry: yeah well why don't you consult the book of also
someone else and me will read
John C Dvorak: these things and then you look at the price for
the game because it would be interesting if he could shoot if
he could bootstrap it. Okay all right, we're just gonna start
with thing is and people started with Alan bows and Langley BC on
an seven $8.08 per give you some karma at the end Jason Bible, or
bibble in Austin, Texas. 120 12, dan melee and Fremont,
California 113 Aaron Lundqvist in Sebring, Florida Sebring.
101. A one Melissa Reeve in Winchester Virginia 100 Then I
got some notes got these people need dee doo Shanks Priscilla,
let me make sure we got this right. These are checks that
came in with cute little notes.
Adam Curry: He's from a meet up or something? Must be
John C Dvorak: No, these are just checks that came in the
mail. Oh, okay. And Priscilla wrote a long note on a card and
I love the show. We've enjoyed it for years. Please. Do a quick
check. Blah, blah, blah. Check on this. She doesn't Okay, she
doesn't need that the douching but and she came in with $100
Edsel Baker came in with $100 and he needs a D douching.
Adam Curry: You've been D deuced by the way a monopoly game.
Cheap Jack like just something you know, like, Okay, I'm
playing the game but it's just cheap. is about $34 for a nice
old school Monopoly game up to luxury edition board 279 And the
bikes Well, I mean, it's a luxury it's beautiful. But what
does
John C Dvorak: luxury mean? You get a blow job when you buy it
Adam Curry: correct. How did you know right from Amazon. It's a
it's like a wooden a beautiful wooden piece and Scott. You put
the it's has a sunken middle. You know so so you can see the
dice the dice when you roll on this and the cards are all in
the middle please but the monopoly the classic edition $34
And then you've got the cheap the cheapo modern edition, which
may not even have the hat and everything. I don't know what to
have him
John C Dvorak: run off in China and get him printed up for next
to nothing John Jason Guile is also in for 100 bucks and he
needs a D douching. You've been de Deus assume he's on the
birthday list. Just shout out to Jason gal. I'm so this from
Rachel. Rachel. Now I'm going to put on I just probably a
switcheroo. So we'll give it credit. Right.
Adam Curry: From Rachel. From Rachel to
John C Dvorak: Jason.
Adam Curry: That it's a birthday.
John C Dvorak: Birthday shadow didn't have a date. Okay, from
Adam Curry: Rachel to Jason. Okay.
John C Dvorak: All right. Onward with Aaron Lewis in Ashburn,
Virginia 9024
Adam Curry: Brian one happy one year anniversary to my smokin
hot hubby Kyle you go want to do him shoot or maybe
John C Dvorak: you've been deed deuced this 9024 Brian Lillard
and prosper Texas. 8888. Carson Brown and state in Oregon. 81
needs a D douchey. You've been D deuced. Doing it done it Kevin
McLaughlin is in Concord, North Carolina with his classic boob
donation of 808 promoting the kiss melon, the kiss melon. It's
got a big tongue that comes out of it. Richard White in
Middleton, Connecticut 7105. And as a switcheroo for his awesome
wife Joey in the woods from corporate Hampshire and a de
Deus she's needed. You've been de deuced good. Oh sir Rick in
Arlington, Washington. 6996 Rita Harrington in Sparks Nevada
6633. Stephen Nehring in Houston, Texas 6333. Sir Kevin
O'Brien in Chicago, Illinois 606 small boobs and Kevin McLaughlin
is back. I don't know how long this is gonna continue 606 But
this time he's promoting the papaya melon.
Adam Curry: How long will he be able to come up with melon
names?
John C Dvorak: I don't know how many more melons there are in
the world. David Jarman in North, in north south, where is
that New South news is in Australia. It's 57. I'm getting
confused in 2017 broker a 5510. Jake Mark Are mountain ma l OTT
mallet in Bellevue, Illinois a lot
Adam Curry: melotti even had
John C Dvorak: a lot of times with a lot.
Adam Curry: made lots Melot
John C Dvorak: Melot Alton poop I'm sorry Alan pop in Trenton,
Michigan 53 Tima Z wit even even in Pasco Washington 53 Just say
you're on the list buddy.
Adam Curry: You know if if there's no agenda Karmapa Lee
came with a blow job and people might have crowdfunded for 20
Grant. I'm just saying.
John C Dvorak: Is that a joke you just got now or
Adam Curry: I just added it just came build up for the Yeah,
okay, sorry. I'm sorry. You're the one here the font around
here. Yes, timing is everything.
John C Dvorak: Bear in Henry in Rancho Palos Verdes days. 5242
Andrew Benz and Imperial Missouri 5005. And here we go.
We have a lot of $50 donors today. Starting with Marcel
mill, okay. Let me admit Mr. Mather might might might or Vika
you
Adam Curry: go medivac Very good. In Gouda.
John C Dvorak: Gouda, Gouda. Gouda well good is it's a cheese
does one of the cheese cities series Holland cheese and
candles? So I didn't know the candles part.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, big candles.
John C Dvorak: Luke Olson Alexandria Virginia. Gadget
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you're watching me getting credit for something finally.
Adam Curry: Where's my Nobel Peace Prize?
John C Dvorak: It's coming. No, it's not dead some Peabody. Oh,
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Adam Curry: Montclair. Robert. My old town. Really? Yeah, my
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You need to de douching
Adam Curry: you've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: Paul Terra Nova Terra Nova in Webster,
Massachusetts. Leanne Shipley and Covington, Washington sir
spied the mighty in Marietta, Georgia and last but not least
is surgery wing and Roth in Saugus, California want to thank
these people for making show 1590 to the reality that it is
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I'm out of there.
Adam Curry: Yo man, I want to go to these indie meetups. We have
to go I have to continue on I have to get this together. Those
people are insane. Don't you want to be a part of a group
like that diverse, different languages, different
backgrounds, different ages and all hanging out together and
they do it all the time in India. Wow, beautiful. Coming up
meetup wise. We've got a quite a list for today actually. The two
hot Tucson Meetup is four o'clock in Tucson, Arizona. The
Sandy brigade Third Thursday five o'clock in Post Falls Idaho
at Selkirk Abby, the thirsty Third Thursday that is edge
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cartel or spook meetup takes place at seven o'clock at
Rosarito Beach Hotel. That's in Rosarito, Mexico Sir Brian in
London is there hope people show up he's very pumped about
meeting people. We have Friday the suds and sanity meet up UK
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that'll be at three o'clock at the Green Bay meet up Jill's bar
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at iron and Vine and Santa Rosa California and also on Saturday
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organizing and finally on the list here we have the off cycle
meet up for special guests are Sean of Slovakia. Five o'clock
at Lyon Hall Arlington Virginia sounds like a spook neat up to
me, Sir William of West Pennsyltucky we'll be organizing
those are just some of the many no agenda meetups go to no
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you. You must live in a very desolate place but you can
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Unknown: everybody feels the same.
Adam Curry: It's like okay, I have actually have four I have
four I have four Oh, you want to go first or one of mine just go
first you got your four lined up one of them failed for some
reason why did that one fail one of them failed I don't have
three of this that's I could not resist not clipping that for an
ISO we have this one okay. Wow. Always a seed man.
John C Dvorak: We used that
Adam Curry: before No that's it's new as far as what's his
name? This is a seed man i So seed man Well, maybe this one
Unknown: it's almost mind blowing.
John C Dvorak: Who has a good one. Okay, I've got starting
with unfortunately I didn't have it so I got you show us show
Texas things.
Adam Curry: Things in Texas stock No, no I veto that. That's
just not going to happen. No, no.
John C Dvorak: That's go with I get the vast wasteland. vast
wasteland.
Adam Curry: Yeah, decent.
John C Dvorak: Decent is not as good as Amy Scott outrageous. Is
so outrageous. And last is Destroy. Destroy New York City.
Adam Curry: Although funny, no. I think we go with Amy. Amy was
good. Yeah, you don't get Amy saying that kind of stuff. Let
me hear her again. Let me hear just to make sure. It's almost
Unknown: mind blowing mind.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's definitely a good that we got.
So I went and took your advice and watch the morning show.
Adam Curry: Oh my god. How bad was it?
John C Dvorak: Well, I didn't think was as bad as you thought
it was.
Adam Curry: Are you kidding me? The writing was horrible.
Jennifer Aniston has ruined her face with whatever she's done.
And then they bring in Jon Hamm. It's atrocious.
John C Dvorak: It's well, it's desperation. But I did get three
clips. Oh, no.
Adam Curry: Wait, this was not the If I had known you were
gonna get a clip I would have. Here's my problem. To do a
television show about a news program that's doing news about
what is currently news ie Ukraine. COVID, et cetera, is
very difficult and they fail as far as I'm concerned. They fail.
John C Dvorak: Well, I would say you it's hard to do that sort of
thing because it's not Evergreen. And what and these
things get old fast and don't go into distribution. Nobody wants
to watch them after you know,
Adam Curry: Apple should be ashamed of themselves and I'm
and I'm no longer Team Jen.
John C Dvorak: So I didn't know you ever were well, did you
either team or team Taylor?
Adam Curry: No. Yeah, of course, of course was Tata team Tata.
John C Dvorak: So there's a couple so I got some clips
knowing what you were you were complaining about the woke
writing and I got three clips that kind of epitomize it and
let's start with this m s are these three clips.
Adam Curry: Ah, this is this is what you all you see, you don't
want me peeking on your clips. So you just had this call it M
S, so he doesn't like listen to
John C Dvorak: a morning show him so it makes sense now, sure.
Here's jab, jab six.
Unknown: On January 6 2021, our democracy hung in the balance,
watched on television screens, as violence broke out at our
most revered institution. Bradley Jackson didn't watch.
Bradley was there. Oh, yeah. She was there.
Adam Curry: She was reporting on her cell phone from inside the
Capitol.
John C Dvorak: She's not in jail, then. I can't believe
you're doing this. So here's another one. This is abortion
talk.
Unknown: You should try to get some sleep out of 120 abortion
clinics in Texas. How many do you think are fake?
I don't know, like 30.
According to this article 100 100 clinics routinely lie to
pregnant women about how far along they are so that they
think they're too late to terminate the pregnancy. I mean,
there'll be three weeks along and they'll tell them that
they're eight weeks because the cut off is six weeks. Wow.
seconds fucked up.
That's I mean, it's really horrifying. Yeah, but where's
this coming from? Right now? Your Are you spending three
timbers like this? It's insane.
just pisses me off. You go to your doctor, you don't want to
be lied to I agree. We all agree
things in Texas stock lots of things, but maybe we just like,
I don't know, look forward to the barbecue.
Adam Curry: So they're on a private jet. While this dialogue
is taking place, and I have never heard this do you think
they completely made this up?
John C Dvorak: Good. B is a fictional show. Yeah, but I
mean, they definitely did. Aniston I think used to live in
Austin, but this anti Texas stuff. I thought the anti Texas
stuff finished off with this particular my last clip. I'm not
going to bore people stiff with this. But this is just too much
for me. This is the one that it's an eye roller. This is the
Texas heat clip
Unknown: to the meaning hotter March.
Adam Curry: I couldn't hear it. I remember
John C Dvorak: Okay, when she comes out of the plane in March,
she says Oh, could it be any hotter? It's not that hot in
Texas in March but Okay. Could it be any hotter? And the guy
says was it Corsica? Do you write the music's too loud? The
Adam Curry: future? Yeah, climate change. It is the show
is atrocious. They shouldn't have even done a second series.
I liked it. I know the second was iffy. Oh, the second one I
couldn't watch. So this was after the show talk. This is how
this is how John and I have nothing to discuss. Where I say
hey, I have watched the morning show. It's crap. And John says
oh, yeah, watch the Barbie movie. Hey, guess what? I didn't
watch John. I did not watch the Barbie movie.
John C Dvorak: I'll bring you a clip for the Barbie movie on the
Sunday show. I because I'm Barbie movie. Okay, the Barbie
movie and I couldn't get past nine minutes of it.
Adam Curry: That's what you said. So that that is automatic
disqualification. We're not going to watch it here in Texas
John C Dvorak: is but I will say this and I've said it to you
before. Art Director and set designers. Oscars. Yeah, sure.
Of course. They really went out of their way. But the whole
thing starts off it pretty much tells you at the beginning.
That's a commercial for Mattel. And it just plugs every Mattel
product they have and it's just, it's lame. It's a lame movie.
Who
Adam Curry: was it? They said Ryan? What's his name?
John C Dvorak: Brian. I know Ryan's Yes. One of these guys.
Gosling is
Adam Curry: it? No, it's Ryan Reynolds. What's his name?
John C Dvorak: I think my No, no, it's one of the it's one of
the Ryan's a Ryan
Adam Curry: you know what would have made it a winner should
have gone was the Lenski. Lenski as Ken would have been good. I
would have Gosling I think it
John C Dvorak: was short list because only five were five two.
Ah,
Adam Curry: all right. I have something of more interest
because it's time it's time. Here we go.
Unknown: Oh in preparedness for potential cyber pandemic. Clorox
says a cyber attack has left the company facing supply shortages.
According to a government filing. The company detected a
breach last month. The source remains unclear. Clorox Clorox
has not said which of its brands are being affected, and the
recent cyber attack against MGM Resorts is reported. costing the
company up to $8 million per day. Reports say some
operations, including the payment of gambling winnings are
still being affected yesterday.
Adam Curry: What do you think it'd be next? What what next?
Now we're affecting people's lives have always said, You've
got to infect Facebook, or x or something like that. You've got
to infect something that people will tick tock.
John C Dvorak: We're assuming that these are criminals, and
they're doing it to make money. Yeah, it's pretty hard to top
doing it to the casinos.
Adam Curry: How about Clorox though? And what is what does
that even mean?
John C Dvorak: If it affects the Clorox thing sounds less like a
ransomware thing. Then there's just some sort of screw up
Adam Curry: now some broke down
John C Dvorak: something but they've always been pretty savvy
technology wise. So I don't know what happened at Clorox. And
it's not like, I don't know. I don't get the Clorox thing
either.
Adam Curry: Here's a weird report. Very weird report.
John C Dvorak: I have the weirdest story that I don't know
if you know about it about the Canada versus India thing.
Adam Curry: Yes, I've read about it. I have read about it. I
don't know much about it. So I'm glad. I'm glad you have here's a
clip. Okay, Canada versus India. odd story.
Unknown: The situation between India and Canada is becoming
more tense. India is now telling its citizens to practice utmost
caution. When traveling to America's neighbor to the north.
New Delhi is telling Indians to be cautious because of growing
anti India activities and politically condoned hate crimes
in Canada. The Canadian public safety Minister responded saying
Canada is just conducting inappropriate criminal
investigation. That country is investigating if India was
involved in an assassination in June, a leading Sikh activist
and Canadian citizen was gunned down in British Columbia. He was
working on an unofficial referendum vote and dia has long
accused him of links to terrorism, just as we both India
and Canada expelled diplomats from their respective countries.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, that's weird.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And they got all they're all bent out of
shape. And the diplomats have been kicked out of both
countries. Yeah. Yeah. Well, but you know, I don't think you can
have I mean, we don't like it when some foreign agent comes
over and shoes whether they're allowed.
Adam Curry: No, it's not done in diplomatic circles. It's it
shouldn't be done. It's considered improper.
John C Dvorak: Now the Russians poisoning people in England, you
know, these these expats?
Adam Curry: I do like what, what what Trudeau was on now,
because, you know, of course, in the socialist country of Conoco
Stan. Tab, they have all kinds of problems. They have the same
inflation issues we have and then we have to blame somebody.
So Trudeau decided to blame the supermarket's. It's not okay,
it's not okay. He's our
Unknown: biggest grocery stores are making record profits, while
Canadians are struggling to put food on the table. So Minister
champagne will be calling on the heads of large grocers to come
to Ottawa with a plan to address the rising cost of food. And we
expect to hear from them by Thanksgiving, on what their plan
is to stabilize prices. Yeah. stabilize prices.
And let
me be very clear,
if their plan doesn't provide real relief for the middle class
and people working hard to join it, then we will take further
action and we are not ruling anything out including tax
measures.
Adam Curry: So won't that just jack the prices up even further?
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: it makes it worse. This is price control is
this typical? Price controls never work and especially in
this in a capitalist system. It makes it screws things up
royally and discusses the big screw up. Did you notice? Notice
this thing he's introduced a new term he was complaining about
some protests going on about you know, especially about the
people purchasing them in the schools
Adam Curry: yes the million million person March Yes.
John C Dvorak: And so he says this these people are just
transphobic yeah, oh yeah. homophobic and homophobic and a
new term? Which I think is just giving it away for what he is by
phobic. No. Yes by Bly phobic by phobic by phobic EBRT you buy
you buy by phobic battle maybe you know he's he's a bisexual.
Yeah leader. I
Adam Curry: know what he is. Yes,
John C Dvorak: it were if we if that and he so he's decided to
make by phobia some sort of a thing. Was not back to
Adam Curry: the grocery store. Chicago has taken it one step
further though, since you know everyone's leaves there's like
San Francisco all stores are leaving Chicago no one wants to
operate there. It's a mess is to get robbed. So now Chicago Mayor
Brandon Johnson will explore the possibility of a city owned
grocery store.
John C Dvorak: So pull up to talk about socialist yes,
Adam Curry: if we're better than Canada now. A better stronger
safer future is one where our youth in our communities have
access to the tools and resources they need to thrive.
My administration,
John C Dvorak: people know how hard it is to run. Grocery
stores is one of the hardest it's like, not as bad as the
restaurant business but pretty close. Have you run us razor
thin margins?
Adam Curry: You know what food lines? That's what you're gonna
get food lines. People standing in line for toilet paper in
John C Dvorak: Chicago? Yeah. Right.
Adam Curry: This is not right. It's not right.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, man. Vermox Vermox. Yes. It was at the round
table. Yes. Vermox. It's an it's an anti worm medication prevents
newly hatched insect larva, worms from growing or
multiplying in your body, your fault.
Adam Curry: I don't know if you saw this. But now, Sam Backman.
Fried's parents are being sued for millions in misappropriated
funds. Have you seen his mom coming out of the courthouse?
John C Dvorak: Oh, my God didn't see anything recently. But she's
she's
Adam Curry: just just do fried courthouse and look at her. So
as it turns out, they coerce this, this kid and I'll just
call him a kid and an autist into sending them 10s of
millions of dollars, putting them on salary as advisors. His
dad even sent in the old all it's all coming out in Discovery
now his and these are the to Stanford economic professors.
Yeah, you know it just to show you how corrupt this whole thing
is. And she then funneled millions of dollars to the Mind
the Gap. Super PAC, which she's created.
John C Dvorak: And it looks like Keith Richards
Adam Curry: Yes, she does look like Keith Richards. You're
right. That's being that's being unkind to Keith. They funneled
over $20 million to Democrats. So direct connection for Direct
Connection from FTX through the parents down to the Silicon
Valley, super PAC, which includes all the typical
douchebags. I mean, these people should all go to jail for this.
I mean, I agree that they should. It really is it really
is egregious what they've done. See, Oh, yes. Well, I do have a
couple of things that I'd like to mention. Actually, I have a
couple clips. First, let's do some political stuff. Bobby, the
app back in the news, had a fundraiser $2.2 million in one
night. Not bad. Who was the superstar performer on deck?
Eric Clapton.
Unknown: Hi, Robert. Hi, everybody. I just want to say
I'm looking forward to seeing you soon. At this gig. full
truth, unity, peace and posterity with the candidate. I
see you soon. Bye.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Go Kennedy team.
John C Dvorak: He was virus vaccine injured? Yes. We know,
almost lost his ability to play the guitar. Did he actually last
a while but he got it back.
Adam Curry: And Ted Cruz. Normally, I wouldn't play
anything from the Ted Cruz podcast. But he laid out a
couple of possibilities. Should Joe not be available? And here's
the first is these are short clips, but they're worth
listening to.
John C Dvorak: So there are two scenarios in which Joe Biden is
not the nominee, I believe, number one, the powers that be
in the Democrat Party convinced Joe Biden to pull out if that
happens, I think it's a free for all. I think a bunch of people
get in. I think the top four Democrats who get in are Kamala
Harris, Pete Buttigieg, Gavin Newsom, and Elizabeth Warren.
And I think all four of them get in I think Gretchen Whitmer
probably gets in as well. I think there are some others that
get it and I think you probably get five to 10 candidates who
jump in the instant Biden is out now in my view, the top tier or
the first four I listed. And I think in that primary, I believe
Elizabeth Warren wins that primary.
Adam Curry: interesting take. Let's listen to the Elizabeth
Warren Gambit. According to Senator Cruz,
John C Dvorak: that's scenario one. Elizabeth Warren comes out
of a wide open real Democrat primary now thing about it is
you're running out of time. So I'll give you some some
deadlines. October 16, is the filing deadline for major party
candidates in Nevada. November 10, is the filing deadline for
major party candidates out Alabama. November 14, is the
filing deadline for major party candidates in Arkansas. So we're
starting to get to filing deadlines where it becomes
exceedingly difficult to get on the ballot. And so if this
scenario happens, it has to happen fast.
Adam Curry: Well, even Ted doesn't think that's going to
happen. There's a
John C Dvorak: second scenario. Here it comes in this scenario,
I think is more likely and a heck of a lot more dangerous,
which is fast forward to next year. Fast forward to the
Democrat National Convention. It's going to be in Chicago,
Illinois, and it is August 19. Through 22nd, we get to August
of next year. And number one, Biden's mental diminishment has
gotten even worse, and it becomes obvious to anyone that
he can't find his shoes and Democrats decide okay, all of
this downside is really worrying us, then the convention is the
opportunity to parachute someone in, you parachute someone in by
having some some story that for health reasons, Biden's not able
to continue. What did they do, then? Well, the natural thing to
say would be okay, it'll be one of those top four. And here's
the problem. Whoever they pick is a problem. They pick Kamala
Harris. She's the Vice President, in some ways, the
natural choice. All of the downsides of Kamala Harris make
that a really dangerous choice. Yes. If they pick Gavin Newsom,
that makes some California Democrats happy. The problem is
you're replacing an African American woman to the Democrat
party with a very rich white guy. You want to talk about a
recipe for discontent. That's a big problem. They could go with
Pete Buttigieg, another white guy, rich liberals would really
like Pete Buttigieg. And a lot of the Democrat donors are gay
and lesbian. That's a major chunk of the funding stream for
a Democrat candidate. But you have the same problem. If you
jettison an African American woman as Vice President, for a
white guy in the Democratic primary, you're really asking
for trouble and option for us is Elizabeth Warren. But you have
the same everyone else who doesn't get it. I think anyone
they go with as a coronation. It's different than an open
primary, where Warren wins because primary voters vote for
that gives an element of legitimacy that the people who
don't win can live with, if it's just the kingmakers, saying, No,
we pick you. Whoever doesn't get picked. Everyone else is pissed.
So here's the scenario that I think is perhaps most likely and
most dangerous in August of 2020. For the Democrat
kingmakers jettison Joe Biden and parachute in Michelle Obama.
Yeah, brother, you take a shaggy dog story you pulled off.
Michelle Obama. Number one, you don't infuriate African American
women, which is a critical part of the constituency that
Democrats are relying on to win. But number two, you avoid the
problem for you pick from any of the four the other three are
pissed because they're all to some extent, peers, their
rivals, they're all jab and knives at each other. Michelle
Obama because she was first lady has the ability to kind of
parachute in above all four and say, Hey, we're not picking
among any of you. You guys can all fight it out next time.
You're all going to be on the same level. We're coming. This
is the Obama's saving the day. And I think in terms of a
solution that unifies Democrats, there ain't nothing like that.
Adam Curry: He's not a dummy. So I'm just
John C Dvorak: gonna do a Texas water.
Adam Curry: It would be fun if you said Big Mike 2024 But he
won't do that. Is that may explain why they're just letting
good old Joe hobble along.
John C Dvorak: Keep moving. Definitely. Joe did put a poison
pill in place with Kamla. Harris.
Adam Curry: Yes, very smart. Very astute.
John C Dvorak: Very well done.
Adam Curry: Very astute. Just astute. We have a little bit of
insight into the AI meeting. You know, the the smartest people on
the planet. all got together in a secret meeting with the Senate
with Schumer Warner. And we had a we had a chat and we're going
to save the world. Thank you, Elon. Thank you. Sundar. Thank
you. Who else do we have?
John C Dvorak: Gates was there.
Adam Curry: Bill? Thank you. Thank you. I
John C Dvorak: think I think Cook was there. Tom Collins
Adam Curry: I think I don't think he was there. I don't
think he has an AI play. He probably feels above those guys.
Anyway, Mark Warner, that's
John C Dvorak: probably true no matter what.
Adam Curry: Mark Warner is a Democrat Senator from Virginia,
at worst, and it's kind of what we expected. We
Unknown: turn now to Virginia Democrat Mark Warner. He is the
chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. Great to
have you here. You have been very active on artificial
intelligence. And we talked about that I'm so
Adam Curry: active. This morning, I was active on
artificial intelligence, I was running around in circles like
AIs.
Unknown: Back in January, Microsoft just announced a few
days ago that China has a new capability to automatically
generate images for use and influence operations to mimic
American voters across the political spectrum and create
controversy along racial, economic and ideological lines.
How much of a risk is this rush to our upcoming election?
It's an enormous risk,
Adam Curry: no enormous risk. Oh, my God, China's go ape is
not Russia. It's China.
Unknown: And artificial intelligence. I've spent as much
time on this, I think is any member of the Senate. No, which
means
Adam Curry: you don't know crap. That
John C Dvorak: means you can't figure out how to make this
thing work.
Adam Curry: It doesn't work. It's no good.
Unknown: And I never spent something where the more time I
spend in certain ways, the more confused I get got well, that
Adam Curry: that we believe the whole
Unknown: economics around these large language models, which
used to be who had the most data who had the most compute power
would when that fundamentally changed after Facebook released
its so called llama model into the wild.
Adam Curry: So he's saying he's the truth is here. Facebook
released the llama models into the wild. And I actually don't
know why they did it. But I'm appreciative because now even I
can sit at home and can see that it doesn't work. It's no good.
It's completely bogus. Yeah, maybe you can have a bigger
computer get the answer faster. But it's still the same models.
It's not impressive. That fundamentally
Unknown: changed after Facebook released its so called llama
model into the wild. In the spring. We just had a major
session leader Schumer put together had the kind of the
who's who in the room. And what what I'm concerned about is even
the the AI leaders who say they want rules guardrails. I'm
concerned that when you actually put words on paper, will those
major tech companies support that because you've seen we in
social media have done zero? Now in terms of China, China is a
major player in AI. And where I think we ought to start is by
getting rid of tick tock where AI tools whether it comes from
China or domestically could have the most immediate effect would
be the public space in our elections right which Microsoft
has decided to legislate Hear me out on this but the other area
beyond elections is Faith in Our public markets. These same tools
could completely disrupt the confidence in our public markets
by using the same deep fake tool so I believe we ought to start
alliances What's that?
John C Dvorak: A change from simple AI to deep fake
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, this this is why it's there all over
the map. So it's, they'll lose trust in our elections because
of deep fakes. Okay, that'll really work. I mean, oh my god,
we'll be we'll be fooled for eight seconds. It's like Yes,
like that. I mean, it really eight seconds. Oh, but then our
public markets. What are we talking about now? What is AI?
The public markets are already a they're all algos all trading is
algorithmic, there's almost the poor saps who are on stock
twits. They're fighting against algorithms. This already like
this. I don't know what he's talking about.
Unknown: Between the capitalist and the small d Democrats. We
might at least get guardrails coming in next year with the
elections and with the concern about our markets, when I hear
Adam Curry: guardrails of the markets thing that must just be
a red herring when I hear guardrails, that means we want
to control what is being said.
John C Dvorak: We want to run it during this censorship. thing.
Yes, we want
Adam Curry: to control what Google results are. We want to
control but social media shows
Unknown: you're concerned not just about spooking, you know,
the stock market, we're talking about misleading people going
into an election spooking the
Adam Curry: stock. This is so weird. In the same breath,
spooking the stock market. Wait a minute. Is this is this a
signal
John C Dvorak: is that the stock market's gonna get spooked
Adam Curry: that there's a crash coming for some reason, and then
they can blame it on China AI.
John C Dvorak: It's gonna be hard to pull off.
Unknown: We're talking about misleading people going into an
election. Congress isn't going to legislate ahead of the
election or that person is the most difficult thing we've ever
this is why the notion of trying to solve at all the bias
question To the whole question around deep fakes the questions
around
Adam Curry: what questions are there around deep fakes? At what
point has a deep fake actually caused market disruption or an
election? Issue? Can you name one? I have, I can't No, of
course not what's called
Unknown: hallucination where you get answers that have no
relationship to what the question was asked.
Adam Curry: It means what the hallucination you can call who's
nation we just call it suck.
Unknown: But we ought to at least start with some
guardrails, around trust in our public elections and trust in
our public markets trust, there are things we can move before
elections. I think it'll be bipartisan. Let's start on that
framing point. I think we can all agree that could be huge
disruption, and both of those areas. And that's where I'm
focused my time.
Adam Curry: So so then the interest of CBS, then the
interview goes in a slightly different direction, which I
think may show some of the concern from this Democrat.
Senator,
Unknown: you may have heard our CVs polling there at the top of
the program. And one of the data points I want to show you here
says when people compare their finances now to how they were
before the pandemic, by two to one, they say they're worse, not
better. And when they feel worse, they tell us they're
voting for Donald Trump. Whoa.
Adam Curry: So let's just say I don't know, like the markets are
going down and China use the deep fakes and then that would
get Trump to be elected or something. What are we doing
here, lady?
Unknown: How can President Biden win over those voters?
Well, I think we've seen from President Biden's actual record,
record amounts of job growth coming again, after COVID. We've
seen major legislation there now law in infrastructure and the so
called chip spill and transition in our energy economy. And most
of that has only been about 10 cents on every dollar spent out.
So I think the positive effects of that will really continue to
penetrate. I feel that that you talk to I listen, I think there
is a general feeling. Oh my gosh, everybody seems to be at
each other's throats here in Washington. We, you know, the
notion that we're going to potentially go into a government
shutdown, Mike Turner and I worked very closely together.
But I do think I wish the House leadership would be spending a
little more time on what would happen with a government
shutdown which makes us look bad around the world. And frankly,
in a state like mine in Virginia, where we have so many
government workers government contractors, it will be a
disaster net blah, blah, blah, blah,
Adam Curry: blah. I just I just thought it was interesting to go
from the AI into when when the mark when when people's when the
economy is bad people vote for Trump.
John C Dvorak: That was very strange.
Adam Curry: And then weird. That's
John C Dvorak: CBSs telling you maybe that's a code for Okay, we
got Trump's been read and he's one of us now we can we can
safely put him in office.
Adam Curry: He's good to go.
John C Dvorak: Good as possible. Oh, man,
Adam Curry: I have an important update. No, call it a comeback.
That's right. COVID is back. But is it COVID? What is it? Can we
tell what it is? Oh, NBC help us when it
Unknown: comes to COVID. Doctors say it's becoming harder to
determine whether someone actually has it.
John C Dvorak: 1000s of these packs.
Unknown: When it comes to COVID Doctors say it's becoming harder
to determine whether someone actually has it that's because
the virus symptoms often overlap with allergies or cold or other
respiratory illnesses.
Adam Curry: What happened to the test? What happened to the test
with doctors can't tell if you have COVID anymore?
Unknown: Yes. Now is NBC News health reporter ARIA Bendix
Aria, I do recall earlier in the pandemic, when people got COVID
It was you're losing your sense of smell, right and taste. What
are the symptoms like now?
Yeah, so the most common symptoms are the ones that we
commonly associate with other respiratory illnesses. So that
might be sore throat, congestion, sneezing, some
people are reporting a very faint.
John C Dvorak: You remember the early early days? The early
days, right? Right at the beginning when we were on this
dose symptoms were never COVID Oh, no, it's not you're not
gonna get the sniffles? It's not gonna be like that.
Adam Curry: No, you'll immediately have to go on a
ventilator is you must be gasping for air.
John C Dvorak: No sneezing if it's if you sneeze that's not
COVID it's definitely a sign of not COVID I wish to get some of
those old clips I had them and it especially put together some
fluid some of those kind of fascinating how this is changed
now it's Bucha has reverted to what it is common cold.
Adam Curry: Excuse me. Sorry. Let's continue with this clip.
Because this is fascinating. Doctors can't figure out what
this is. It's not COVID
Unknown: Oh, it's congestion. Sneezing some people are
reporting a very faint sore throat others say they feel some
scratching or burning akin to a strep throat. And then a smaller
number of people reporting you know your headaches, chills,
muscle aches, maybe a post nasal drip, that can lead to a bit of
Adam Curry: Cough isn't that cold or flu or a cold.
Unknown: But as you mentioned, that dry cough we were seeing at
the beginning of the pandemic, that loss of taste and smell,
even some of the gastrointestinal issues we saw
early on, those have largely gone away.
Yeah. BME beyond those things. Is there
anything else that's different about the virus now than it was
in the early days? Yeah, it's
Adam Curry: cold.
Unknown: Yeah, I know, we hear about all these different
strains and mutations. And it's really important for scientists
to pay attention to those split from the public health
perspective, we are dealing with the same variant that we have
since late 2021. That's the Omicron variant that hasn't
gotten milder over time. But our response to that variant has
changed, our immunity has changed. Most people now have
what's called hybrid immunity, which is immunity from
vaccination and a natural infection. So when they're
exposed to that virus, their bodies know how to fight it off,
and it results in a milder illness. I should mention,
though, that that immunity does wane so for older adults in
particular, it's important to get these updated booster shots
as false so they can top off that protects
point especially for the immunocompromised, any
vulnerable communities to really take the protections you need to
stay safe. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Bendix. Thanks so much.
Appreciate it. Thank you.
Thanks for watching.
Adam Curry: So you know, it's, this is not COVID This is no
vid. They're lying. That just lying. Isn't this No. COVID This
is a cold. Get a shot. Oh, and by the way, people are going to
CVS and all the you know, getting their shot, and all of a
sudden they go oh, here's a $200. Bill what it was going to
be free. Yeah, surprise, surprise. The insurance
companies like Nah, we're not. We're not going to reimburse you
for that. Now. What a scam. Absolute scam.
John C Dvorak: Well, I can go out with to homeless clips. Oh,
that's good. Or let's skip that. I'm gonna move those to Sunday.
I want to play this. This is interesting. This is one of the
things Biden's managed to pull off. No Democrats done it
before. They're not. Republicans don't dare even try. And this is
the climate core thing. He's come up with
Adam Curry: 20 20,000 kids now, isn't it? What is this being
compared to?
John C Dvorak: This is Civilian Conservation Corps during the
Depression? This is a depression idea. The Works project
administration during the depression like the New Deal, is
this the new dive? Yes, totally new deal stuff. Now. I have
talked about why don't they do this. I've said this for not on
the show so much because it doesn't come up in the
conversation until now. But it's always been the following
because I brought this up in in discussions. No, no, no, no, we
can't do this. You This is not something you can do. You can't
do these government programs anymore, like Civilian
Conservation Corps, because it takes union jobs away. That's
always the argument. No, no, no, you can't do this taking real
paying union jobs away from real pay union members. This is no
good. You can't do it. And it's always been verboten. And now
all of a sudden we got this.
Unknown: The Biden administration is announcing a
major climate initiative. It will be the first of its kind in
the nation to train young Americans for jobs in the
renewable energy industry.
The White House on Wednesday announced the creation of
American Climate Corp. It's a workforce initiative that will
pay 20,000 Young Americans to get training for jobs in the
climate sector. The new core will support a wide range of
jobs, including restoring coastal wetlands, forest
management to help fight wildfires and building out
renewable energy projects. no prior experience is required to
apply for most programs. The White House said in a statement
that the aims include quotes, conserving our land and waters
bolstering community resilience, advancing environmental justice,
deploying clean energy, implementing energy efficient
technologies and tackling climate change. initially
proposed as part of President Biden's build back better
agenda, the program was stripped out of the inflation Reduction
Act. Five states have already launched their own climate core
programs. And additional five also announced new programs on
Wednesday. The Secretary General of the United Nations on the
same day called for more action on fossil fuels. During the
speech at the UN climate ambition summit in New York, he
asked nation said subsidies for fossil fuels. Yeah,
Adam Curry: so the climate justice part of that is mildly
concerning, because that means you could have an army of 20,000
brown shirts. snooping around yeah, what are you doing with
that? DOD? No,
John C Dvorak: it was they were they keep a tab on everybody's
garbage
Adam Curry: bins on your lapins the it's kind of sad that we do
this the very end of the show because without a doubt in my
mind, the number one problem we face is the theft. That is
climate change and Sustainable Development Goals, which the
United Nations now says We need more than 5 trillion a year.
California suing five the five major oil companies like big
tobacco. All the states are going to do this now. It's all
theft. They're thieving. Yeah, they're
John C Dvorak: stealing money.
Adam Curry: They're stealing you had two clips Was this the only
one of the two that's the
John C Dvorak: only one I had to to cluster the homeless problem
in Sacramento.
Adam Curry: Right right. I was just thinking if I could add to
your climate change maybe we just do the we're
John C Dvorak: good. The scope we're good. Okay.
Adam Curry: We're good. Anyone can call it you called it we're
good. We're totally good. And with that we come to the end of
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Unknown: we're changing people's lives
we feed pharma this year. Think about what you think about
change changing people's lives take everything away from the
user being sick and tired of smart guys not more sick and
patrons are not a single thing we can not do not a single thing
go get in you imagine looking at your child or changing people's
lives no one not under the history books notice no one I
went on the floor and got you I got votes for that bill. I
convinced people to vote for it so let's get those things are
changing people's lives I got votes for that well I'm sick and
tired are smart guys
yeah man. It spurs our imaginations our exploration of
space space it comes in the morning it is a reflection of
our moment in our time think about it about I believe you
need to legalize marijuana. I love Venn diagrams. Who doesn't
love smoking weed
and it's part of it's part of our Experience Experience
Experience Experience and there is such great significance to
the passage of time time time. Nobody should have to go to jail
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