John C Dvorak: Banana melons, Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: Thursday, August 17 2023. This Year Award winning
give our nation media assassination episode 1582. This
is no agenda. Guaranteed lawful but awful and broadcasting live
from 20 miles south of Austin ONEOK in St. Joe's Spain in the
morning everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where the sun is
shining and maybe we're gonna get a summer I'm John Cena boy.
Adam Curry: Buzzkill. Very weird everything sounds awful. Maybe
it's my ears. I don't know. Sounds weird,
John C Dvorak: but you've been eating
Adam Curry: I had a lobster soup with with
John C Dvorak: Reiser one. Well, I
Adam Curry: mean, this is what you eat here in in Catalonia.
John C Dvorak: Catalonia he traveled horror stories.
Adam Curry: I do have a I do have some some boots on the
ground information that we we left Amsterdam on when was it?
Tuesday? Monday. Can you remember? Tuesday I guess and we
flew with the lovely viewing airlines. Wii U L I N G this is
kind of like the Spirit Airlines of Europe LNG fueling Wii U L. I
N G view LNG. I think any anybody in Europe is probably
cringing when they hear that,
John C Dvorak: baby. I mean, it was a crazy name. veulent
Adam Curry: Yeah, I don't know. It must be a sub brand of
something. But the seats are almost standing. Remember that
crazy? Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: remember. That's kind of what it feels like. The
whole idea put everybody's standards right.
Adam Curry: And if the whole thing kind of felt like it was
held together with gaffer tape, and baling wire, but okay, we
made it it's nice, you know, the European Union, no passports
needed, man the airport in Barcelona, because that's how I
have to pronounce it, John Barcelona.
John C Dvorak: That's not how you pronounce it in Barcelona.
That is exactly
Adam Curry: how they all pronounced they all say blue
letter from Barcelona
John C Dvorak: and who made a big stink about that.
Adam Curry: They don't say Barcelona, they say Barcelona.
So
John C Dvorak: they can maybe say by to talk a little bit
like, instead
Adam Curry: Jason Calacanis is Barcelona. So the last time I
was here was I think 2002. And a lot has changed, including the
airport. This airport is huge. They've added on a whole new
terminal is phenomenal how modern and big it is. And we're
in stitches, which is about 20 miles south of Barcelona,
Barcelona. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: a lot of big, big trade shows there. So I guess
they need that big airport. Oh, for sure.
Adam Curry: And speeches is what they call the guest the the
little Ibiza Ibiza. There's another one? You can't say
Ibiza, which is how you spell it but a differ. Lisa? Friend of
mine here has been sick for a while. And so that was actually
the the genesis of this entire trip was to come and see him and
so we kind of put it all into our vacation. Yeah. Well, he I
grew up with him because my next door neighbor in in Holland. So
some observations, first of all, Barcelona is kind of like the
Austin of Texas and Catalonia would be Texas. If you recall,
they tried to secede from from Spain. About seven years ago.
Was it 20? No 2017. Remember that and they were beating the
panel logos, or beating the people over the head who wanted
to go vote in the referendum. There's still some, some, some
PTSD here about that. But that is the that's kind of the the
comparison people make is Catalonia is like Texas, and
Barcelona is kind of like Austin. And man, I learned a
lot. We had a tour guide who took us around the Sagrada
Familia, which is the Antoni Gaudi church.
John C Dvorak: I'm sure you've been here. I'm sure you've seen
the church. Yeah, I've been in there. Nice. You haven't been in
the church. It'll be done. It'll be done in 100 years. No,
Adam Curry: that's what they said. When I was here in 2003.
They said I have another 90 years it will be done but and
there was no inside. Now the inside is almost completed.
John C Dvorak: When I was the inside was half done. When
Adam Curry: was that? Because I was here in 2003. You couldn't
even go inside?
John C Dvorak: It was about the 2012 Oh, yeah.
Adam Curry: Okay. Yeah, that's right. That's when they started
in 2010. They started building on the inside. You
John C Dvorak: go inside and roam around. You see a bunch of
people watching other people do nothing. No,
Adam Curry: no, it's beautiful now. It's really it was very
aggressive, but does aggressive
John C Dvorak: then it's just an impressive assurance but it's
really the damnedest thing it
Adam Curry: is. Well, when you when you project it is yeah, it
was a 250 year project. It's, it's really that was really
cool. Now, walking around with a tour guide, I learned some
important things. Mostly important thing is Black Lives
Matter is here as well. Not just not just in the Netherlands with
the black piece where the now they have the slave Museum, and
they've paid 100 million in reparations to think is it
Indonesia or something then now, soon enough, Suriname wants
reparations. But here, here turns out those horrible
horrible Catalonians were a part of the triangle trade of cotton
in the US with a textiles being made here from the US cotton,
which I did not know. And they're taking down Christopher
Columbus statues the guy was from here
John C Dvorak: in Spain, they're taking down Christopher killing
Adam Curry: maniacs now but that's what I'm saying. This is
a worldwide so you don't hear about that. But this this black
lives matter and you know, the trans stuff. It's, it's
worldwide. It's not just happening in our neck of the
woods. really quite amazing.
John C Dvorak: And so you do it.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, it's not it's not good
John C Dvorak: Marxist revolutions aren't meant to be
local mount.
Adam Curry: There's a quote, you could put that on a t shirt.
Jhansi Dvorak Marx's revolutions aren't meant to be local. And
then the only other thing that that I think is show worthy was
a lot that I think is show worthy. But since you're
marginally entertained, I tried to the i Quas. Remember, this is
the the non combustible tobacco product that is supposed to
replace vaping eventually in the United States, Will everybody is
using them here? Oh, that's interesting. And it and I and I
said, Hey, man, can I can I have a hit off of that I got to taste
this. So it's like a, it's like a big vape cartridge. And then
there's a small, almost like half a cigarette in size in
diameter that goes into the cartridge and a little bit of
the filter sticks out. And guess then it connects with the
battery and, and it produces vapor. But it's not vapor from
the vape liquid that is getting liquefied, which isn't including
the glycerin or whatever is in the vape. But it's actually
heating up tobacco but not burning it just heating it. So
it doesn't produce smoke. It produces a form of vapor. It
tastes like total crap is horrible. Now I'm a non smoker.
Now I'm an ex smoker. But I know what a what a smoke would taste
like and it is nasty. Reminds
John C Dvorak: me to get people to stop smoking.
Adam Curry: I don't think that's the point. It's like, if you're
not burning the tobacco, you're just not getting the right
you're not doing it right. It just doesn't taste right at all.
So anyway, we're here until we're here tomorrow. And then
Saturday, we fly off to Italy and then I'll be your friend. Of
course, I've had had some lunches with him. And he's you
know, you can't get around very well. But yeah, he's he's
hanging in go see Willow in Italy. The Willow was going to
come see us actually. She's driving. We're about an hour and
a half away from them. So she's going to come down with the
whole family. Yeah, absolutely. And this is where you say, Well,
that's nice.
John C Dvorak: That's nice.
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, meanwhile, there's a lot of
stuff happening in the world. A lot of nutty stuff.
John C Dvorak: Where do you want to get your gun they indicted
Trump again and just made a big fuss of the same thing. This has
been this has been fantastic. It's like a rerun of the same
stuff. Only this time they really got it by the balls. The
MSNBC stuff was off his goose is cooked.
Adam Curry: I love NPR. They they had this. I don't know who
this who was his nut job. I can't remember who this lady is.
But, you know, the question was, is how does Trump compared to
that other criminal in American presidential history? Richard
Nixon,
Unknown: the Watergate scandal led to President Richard Nixon's
resignation in 1974. It set a standard for presidential
wrongdoing. But ex President Donald Trump's alleged
criminality now appears set to far exceed that standard. Should
the four Indians currently brought a president went out to
resign. Our colleague Steve Inskeep spoke earlier about all
this with Jill wine banks. She served as an assistant special
press dictator in the Watergate investigation,
Adam Curry: so so this is someone who would know because
she was she's so old she was an assistant prosecutor in the
Watergate investigation.
Unknown: I want to ask a question that I think you have
been asked 47,000 times before. But I think it is a reasonable
place to start. How do the accusations against Trump and
trying to overturn an election compared to Watergate?
There's no comparison in my mind. The actions of Donald
Trump leading up to January 6, and continuing to this day, to
me are much more dangerous to democracy than anything Richard
Nixon did. Richard Nixon was guilty. He was a crook. He
should have been indicted, he shouldn't have been pardoned.
But what he did is child's play compared to what happened I
believe, harden enabled what happened. But I never feared for
democracy the way I do now. Let's
remember what it what are these people
Adam Curry: afraid of xi? I've never, never feared for
democracy the way I do. Now. This is quite interesting. They
John C Dvorak: all say the same thing. They all say as part of
the threat to democracy. I
Unknown: never feared for democracy the way I do now. Why
John C Dvorak: number of worrying. Now this guy's got 91
indictments against various sources. Why is she more afraid
now than ever before? Because she's more afraid now than she
was before Trump was indicted. Probably because she knows it's
an old battle ax ish even be on the air
Unknown: was that Nixon did aides and associates of Nixon
conducted a burglary of the Democratic National Committee
headquarters in Washington, DC and the investigation of that
led to a lot of other political so called Dirty tricks. Did
Nixon at some level except wait.
John C Dvorak: That lead to what other dirty tricks?
Adam Curry: I don't know you were you were paying attention
then? Not me. Yeah, and
John C Dvorak: I don't remember any other other dirty tricks.
Was that Watergate thing broken? It's everything's door was shut
on dirty tricks. The dirty tricks took place before
Watergate.
Adam Curry: I don't know. I have no idea. No, they're
John C Dvorak: just making this stuff up. Did Nick's is getting
weaker by the minute listening to this,
Unknown: at some level, except that democratic system he needed
to listen to the will of the people and deal with reality.
He did. He knew Shane. Well, the
John C Dvorak: people was voting in Donald Trump. And he was
Unknown: told that he would be convicted in the Senate and the
charges of impeachment that had been voted if he didn't resign.
And he resigned. Is that how it went?
John C Dvorak: Well, what happened was they had the goods
on him because the whole thing was, as you remember, if you
read the baker book, Russ Baker's book, family, where they
outline the fact that this this whole thing was a CIA scheme to
get rid of Nixon. And so the plumbers, the guys who did
Watergate were all CIA operatives, and they purposely
did it in a sloppy slipshod way to get caught. That's what the
book says, Oh, he has the research to back it up. I know
what they're saying is wrong. Thank you charges
Unknown: of impeachment that had been voted, if he didn't resign.
And he resigned. He never acknowledged, officially, and in
fact, probably denied in the David Frost interview, that he
was guilty because he says it's not illegal if you're the
president. But he did respond to the will of the people, it was
clear that he had lost the support of America and of his
own party. This
Adam Curry: is weird that she says this. Because you're right,
the will of the people, at least the Trump people seems to be
increasingly more towards bring him back in Yeah, instead of the
democratic
John C Dvorak: election. would happen happened with with Nixon
is that they set this up so well. And of course, the CIA at
the time was really, even though after that was after the Church
Committee, I believe, but it was still dominating this situation.
They had to get rid of him. And this is the way that you would
get rid of him. So they set him up. And then they went to the
Republican cohorts and the Republicans are the ones that
got him to resign.
Adam Curry: Who were they running the CIA? Then? Do you
remember? Oh,
John C Dvorak: Woolsey, maybe?
Adam Curry: I'll have to check it.
John C Dvorak: It's almost I will look, it will look it up.
We'll look it up. But I don't think maybe maybe it may may or
may not have been Woolsey
Unknown: Erica and have his own party. This was a time of
bipartisanship. It was a time of facts. And everybody accepted
the facts, including him, which was that he had been found to
have plenty of evidence against him showing his guilt and he
resigned.
Adam Curry: So this is just propaganda basically. NPR
national propaganda radio.
John C Dvorak: I think that was was that NPR was that was NPR.
It was our it was more it was.
Adam Curry: It was NPR Yeah. Once you got Let's
John C Dvorak: go, GA updates Georgia indictment updates. We
Unknown: next see former President Trump in court at
Georgia court. This is anti DSOs Lemoore. Objective content
released this afternoon proposes an arraignment date and a trial
date. And today's Molina wise cup is in the at the Fulton
County Courthouse. And she joins us with more. Melina tell us
about this new motion.
So I do want to be very clear here because we did just get
clarification from the Fulton County Sheriff's Office that
arraignment and booking are actually totally separate. So
there is still an August 25. That is a next Friday deadline
for all 19 of these defendants to come here to be booked by the
Fulton County Sheriff's Office. But now there is a newly
proposed date for arraignment that is the week of September 5,
the DA just filed that motion to the court today. She also
proposed a march 4 trial date. If we could just show up on the
screen here exactly what this document shows the motion that
the DEA filed if we could just pull that up. So I'll read the
reasoning for this for requested arraignment date and trial date.
They said they don't want it to conflict with other court
hearings and trials that Trump has stating the state of Georgia
proposes certain deadlines that do not conflict with these other
courts already scheduled hearings and trial dates, I do
want to point out the march 4 trial date because that is a
very special day. So it is Super Tuesday, a day before Super
Tuesday, actually. And that's the that's the day that the
greatest number of US states hold primary elections. So
that's a very interesting timing for this trial to unfold for
former President Trump considering he is the leading
candidate in the GOP primary race right now. Now, just in
case you missed it a quick update the first person to
respond to these indictments was Mark Meadows, he filed for the
court the case to move to be moved to a Federal Court arguing
that he does have protection because he was a sitting
official at the time that these actions took place.
Adam Curry: Okay, let's just understand this. The I have
looked at the Georgia indictments and I understand
that they desperately want to get mug shots. And they
desperately want to do this the day before Super Tuesday. Is
anyone fooled by this is anyone really the
John C Dvorak: entire Democrat Party, the case the your your
PBS people, MSNBC and CNN. They're all fooled by it. And if
anybody thinks they're insincere, I would challenge
that.
Adam Curry: That's, that's incredible. It's really
incredible. And truly true to the to the to the word
incredible.
Unknown: It's incredible.
John C Dvorak: It's It's crazy, incredible. Crazy that the head
of the CIA during Nixon was, was Helms. When was the counter at
the counter intelligence superstar. That was a spook at
the time then Bran thinks he was the he would be the guy that
said something like that up. Okay. All right.
Adam Curry: Well, so. So, okay. I mean, I mean, all I hear is
just people tromped out. That's all the news seems to be except
for you know, luckily, we have a devastation in Maui. We can
traumatize people with that. I get
John C Dvorak: the scope part too.
Unknown: So Molina on a separate but related note, do
Adam Curry: you think this is NTD? Right. Do you are the NTD
people all in? Are they buying it? No.
Unknown: There's emerging information about the DOJ 2020
election case against Trump. Special Counsel Jack Smith got
very personal information about Trump through issuing a warrant
on acts formerly known as Twitter, Twitter. Tell us more
about that.
So Jack Smith, the special counsel from the DOJ who's
leading that investigation, and that case into President Trump's
2020 election case there in the DC court, he obtained very, very
personal information. It was so personal, that Twitter actually
called it confidential information, the things that he
requested and actually got access from a judge or things
such as he got all records from October of 2020 to January of
2021. That includes anything that Trump's searched on his
personal Twitter account, as well as any posts that he made.
Even those posts that were just drafts, they also hold those
records. Also messages direct messages may or may not have
been sent that may have only been drafts. They also got
information on locations of users. And also any people who
Trump blocked or follow during the time period, as well as any
users on Twitter screw
Adam Curry: NTD. They're just as jacked up as anybody
Unknown: who liked or shared the President's post so it does
stretch further than just former President Trump. Now Twitter
knowing this was confident confidential information did try
to block this war. did Jack Smith was requesting but a judge
ultimately sided with Jack Smith. And furthermore, the
judge even ruled that Trump was not even allowed to know that
this data on him was being collected and shared with
special counsel Jack Smith. Hold
Adam Curry: on a second hold that I don't like the way
they're reporting that because I have a report here from the
hills rising.
John C Dvorak: Okay. Well, before we do that, I don't think
the publisher put up with the fact that now he's got a list of
everyone who's ever favorited or liked a Trump post? Oh, who
could have said in there?
Adam Curry: Yeah, no, I know. Well, of course,
John C Dvorak: this is disgusting. No,
Adam Curry: that's par for the course baby. Here. Listen to
this. Actually, this is a report I had from for the last show
didn't
Unknown: play it. Twitter was subpoenaed by the Justice
Department for Trump tweet info. And they refused to comply and
got a $350,000. Fine. But I'm reading more closely. And part
of the so what the Justice Department saw was we I guess we
don't know exactly, because obviously the tweets are public,
but there could be information that Twitter has about under
what circumstances they were sent. Maybe we like what
location they were sent from. Some other maybe statistics
about their reach those kinds of things. But they also in this
the search warrant. Where is it? It was there was non disclosure
forced on them. So Twitter was also going to x, Elon Musk,
who's going to be prohibited from saying that the just
Justice Department from publicly saying that the Justice
Department had pursued this information. And Twitter said,
we will we will we are willing to produce the information. But
we do not we this violates our First Amendment rights for to
say we can't we can't say that we're doing this.
I thought they did. Did they actually produce the
information? I thought that they when they said they will
not produce the information. As long as that stipulation is they
said, if they you took away that stipulation, we will produce the
information.
Well, they've already violated that stipulation by talking
about the government requesting the documents. Am I or am I
misunderstanding? This,
this has come this is now public because they've been fined for
not complying with it. But this was the this was back. This was
months ago when this demand was made. So they exceeded the
deadline for this to handle the information because the justice
department didn't agree to drop that stipulation.
Adam Curry: Okay, so So now I'm slipshod
John C Dvorak: report for one thing, why they fought, why
they're getting fined. If you can just find people out of the
blue overnight telling you something unless you had a
warrant and the warrant would have made you do it. So this is
Adam Curry: just terrible. You're saying that's not true
that they didn't get fined?
John C Dvorak: I'm wondering whether they did nobody else has
reported on this this $350,000 Fine.
Adam Curry: So it's this is all very what's defined
John C Dvorak: for
Adam Curry: for not complying with the judge's order. But
John C Dvorak: that's not the way they presented they said
that they got fined for not complying with the request.
Here's
Adam Curry: Okay, here's Time Magazine Musk's ex fined
$350,000 in secret Justice Department fight over Trump
records for defying a judge's deadline to comply with the
Justice Department so
John C Dvorak: that's different that's not the way these other
guys reported. Right.
Adam Curry: But the whole thing is they're crazy. This is this
is I agree. I mean, and by the way, this kind of shows you that
this Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Way to go musk. Yeah, he was good. The
whole the whole X, and I'm just gonna take credit for it.
Twitter is ruined. Twitter's completely ruined as predicted.
And now this yaka Reno lady is in there who was everything is
good. Now, by the way, they're cashflow positive, everything's
hunky dory as they get ready to become your bank. Welcome back,
John C Dvorak: Linda. Yeah, Karina, newly appointed CEO of
muscle which is where we go on to this Can we
Adam Curry: come back to Trump? I just want to play this as an
intro
Unknown: X sitting down with CNBC today and saying that the
company is soon to be cashflow positive who have been
at the company eight weeks the operational run rate right now
we're
at close to break even close to break even close to breakeven.
We're pacing well when you think about the cost discipline that
I've mentioned, and I mean, incredible cost is a cost
discipline before I arrived at the company.
John C Dvorak: She also said to me, she's saying that luck did
she saying zipline Glock displayed in there and it was it
cost
Adam Curry: discipline?
John C Dvorak: Oh cost Yes.
Unknown: X is starting to hire again after Elon Musk cut the
number of employees from around 8000 to over 1000 now are Julia
Boorstin joins us now to discuss. Julia. I guess my
question is, Linda Yeah, Karina went in there with their
advertising background? Has she captured the market already? Or
is it just too soon to say? I
mean, look, we don't have data on what's inside the
organization. But the fact that she shared that they're close to
break even does indicate process progress. She also talked a lot
about how they're working on things like trust and safety.
These are things that are obviously big concerns with
advertisers. And what she laid out was a vision of, and I'm
going to use her words here freedom of speech, not free
reach lawful but not awful, this idea that they want to enable
really a free speech platform, but also create an environment
that is very safe for brands. And that's clearly been a big
priority for her Steve. So it sounds like she's making
progress and bringing more brands back on the platform. But
it's mostly to me fascinating to see how it will fit into a much
broader company with payments with video calls and really
going beyond just being a platform for communication.
Adam Curry: So I'm so the one thing Yeah, Karina is doing well
as she is creating new language, although we've heard the lawful
but awful, and now suddenly, CNBC
John C Dvorak: was that Darren O'Neill's old phrase, no, no.
Adam Curry: Now we got this. We got this long. This was a
government phrase, it you know, like Trump is tweets are lawful
but awful. But now she's throwing in freedom of speech,
but not out of reach. In other words, you're going to get
banned. You can post all you want, you're in the Bozo filter.
It was like post all you want no one's freedom of speech, but not
of reach.
John C Dvorak: How do you start when you're asking a question?
How do you start with with the phrase, I mean, look,
Adam Curry: well, that's if you're at CNBC. Very mean, look,
they have a very high bar to entry for their journalists.
They're very, you got to be really good. So I mean, look is
a good way to start. Let's go back to Trump. Here's the NBC
report of the Georgia indictment, a sweeping
Unknown: set of charges announced in the late night news
conference by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis,
is
Adam Curry: it funny or Fannie? Because I think Fannie is
funnier. funnier
Unknown: is that it was Fannie. I think it's Fannie indictment,
Fannie or just against Donald John Trump
clearly alleges Mr. Trump and 18 others unlawfully conspired and
a criminal enterprise to try and overturn President Biden's
narrow win in Georgia, rather
than by abide by Georgia's legal process for election challenges.
The defendants engaged in a criminal racketeering enterprise
to overturn Georgia's presidential election result
cameras
tracks nearly every step as the indictment was brought to a
judge and unsealed inside 13 charges for Mr. Trump, including
pressuring public officials to violate their oath, conspiracy
to commit forgery and making false statements. The indictment
also alleges Trump allies recruited individuals to convene
and cast fake Electoral College votes to disrupt and delay the
Biden win.
Adam Curry: This is this is the one that bothers me. Because
instead of saying an alternate slate of electors, which what
was that's what it was, which is part of the that's part of the
process. They just reported as fake, fake electors, or am I am
I Am I incorrect? You're totally correct. And that's your that's
NBC. They are they're either they really don't know how our
system works. I think a lot of people don't know. They don't
you know, people still probably think oh, I'm but I vote and
then my vote is what elects the president? No, no, it's the the
electoral college. And they so they just and you can and I
think every election since ultimate slates of electors. I
think it's always been that way. But now they're just calling it
fake. They just calling it fake. That's not okay.
Unknown: The DEA is using the state's anti racketeering law,
which is modeled on Rico statutes to charge all 19
defendants, including Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, who
helped pioneer the use of Rico laws to prosecute the mafia in
New York. The Trump campaign, blasting the indictment calling
it the latest coordinated strike by a biased prosecutor in an
overwhelmingly Democrat jurisdiction, something Willis
strongly denies. I
make decisions in this office based on the facts and the law.
The law is completely nonpartisan. There you go.
John C Dvorak: Well, I have a couple of clips from NPR that
are I call them they're so bad. I call them hit pieces. Okay.
Adam Curry: And then we got to get off of this because now
we're sounding like every podcast in the world.
John C Dvorak: But we still have to cover it. I have three clips
left and that'll be okay. They're short. Well, this was
not that short. But this is the the reason is just to
deconstruct the hit piece part of it, which is the use of
language, that slanted and here We go with the NPR hit piece on
Trump. With
Unknown: each passing indictment of former President Donald Trump
up to four indictments now Republicans appear largely
unfazed. So what explains that and what does it mean for the
next phase of the Republican presidential primary
NPR senior political correspondent and editor
Domenica Montanaro is here to discuss Good Morning America.
Good morning, Lila. Okay. So we should get across first that
we're talking about Trump's grip on the base of his party. Right.
He's viewed far more negatively overall
Adam Curry: of the grip on the base of his party.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Does that little imagery there?
Adam Curry: Yeah, no, I heard it right away.
John C Dvorak: Grid Republicans are a bunch of disks, that
Unknown: we're talking about Trump's grip on the base of this
party. Right. He's viewed far more negatively overall.
Yeah, I mean, overall, he remains highly unpopular, you
know, and has had a rippling effect, frankly, with
independence. You know, Trump has led his party, disappointing
elections in a row. And he's done very little to expand his
base beyond that in the years since winning the White House in
2016. So it's pretty hard to see his win again in 2024, without
some help, potentially from a third party, and that's why
you're here, Democratic strategist. Liars, really
ringing the alarm bells about these potential third party
efforts that have been cropping up recently, especially because
Trump and Biden are so unpopular right now. Now,
Trump is competing in the Republican primary, and that's
where he's seen far more favorably.
Yeah, I mean, with Republicans is a totally different story.
They're living in a completely different universe than
Democrats and independents. When it comes to Trump. You know,
about half of Republican voters seem nearly locked in for him
and seem to believe almost everything that he tells them
about what he claims are witch hunts and double standards. And
that includes his baseless election claims. You know, we
know that Joe Biden won in 2020, fair and square, but a recent
CNN poll showed that seven in 10, Republicans do not believe
that 56% of those Republicans who said that they believe Biden
last said that they base those views on get this solid evidence
of which there's not right. You know, it really just shows how
hyper partisan our political environments become in the
results of Trump and other Republicans, relentless
campaigns against expertise and definitive sources. to undermine
this, you can really make people believe almost anything. Wow,
Adam Curry: this is such a case of like, just being yourself.
You can make people believe almost anything. That's exactly
what are you doing NPR? Wow, that's pretty good.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it really?
Adam Curry: Wow. Oh, my goodness. Did
John C Dvorak: they don't let up with part two.
Unknown: Now since the GA indictment came out on Monday.
Are you seeing new efforts by Trump to reinforce this sense of
grievance with his followers reasons?
Yeah, definitely. I mean, it's been proven repeatedly in
recounts audits, dozens of court cases that there were no
widespread fraud, that would have changed anyways. And yet
Trump will be added again Monday in what he's calling a news
conference from his golf course in New Jersey. He says he's
going to present evidence of fraud that will vindicate him.
But this is really an old page from the Trump playbook. He's
done this over and over again since he lost in 2020. And all
of the conspiracies he's put forward have been disproven. In
fact, Georgia Republican Governor Brian Kemp swatted
these claims aside yesterday, he said again, that the state's
elections are secure and fair, and that no one has proved
anything under oath in a court of law, and that there was no
substantive fraud can really is an interesting figure, his
Republican who rebuffed Trump and then Cruz to re election in
a swing state, but not many other Republicans or any of
Trump's current primary opponents, you know, we've
really chosen or been able to follow that model. Right.
And that brings us to the first Republican presidential debate
set for Wednesday of next week. First of all, we don't even know
if Trump will participate. But either way his presence will be
looming there.
Oh, definitely. I mean, we know that the other campaigns have
had Trump at the center of their debate prep to some candidates
who have been lagging want to make Trump answer for these
indictments. I'm thinking of former New Jersey Governor Chris
Christie, and former Arkansas Governor ASA, Hutchinson and
others. But you know, the thinking and Trump voters, why
bother when he's so far ahead in the polls, if there was a time
to make a move, you know, you might think it would start next
week in a primetime debate, we're gonna see because we're
less than five months away from the Iowa caucuses now.
John C Dvorak: Just the last thing on the debates is my last
clip and we can
Adam Curry: I just want to I just want to I want to respond
to this for a moment. What they're succeeding at here is
making it so that no one cares about issues anymore. Not Magga
America is just mad at a a two tier justice system. That's what
they're achieving. And I'm pretty sure that's on purpose.
Let's get everyone all crazy. Let's start some more January 6
type stuff. Yeah, so we can call everybody a terrorist and lock
them up. is very bad.
John C Dvorak: This is the we should tell you about your
threat to democracy. See how we should not even be playing these
Adam Curry: these jokesters? It's so bad? Well, you know,
while we're gonna do it anyway, we
John C Dvorak: can't ignore it let's go into is the Trump
conundrum in Georgia who Okay, Trump conundrum,
Unknown: the Georgia prosecutor spearheading a racketeering and
conspiracy case against former President Donald Trump.
Adam Curry: This is great, though I love the RICO charts.
It the whole thing is so crazy, that they even say, from what I
understand, and what I've read, that none of these charges by
themselves are crimes, but when you put them all together,
that's racketeering.
John C Dvorak: Well, even more complicated, is that if you they
have a litany of crimes like to say that I think is 40 over so
not even crimes that but they even said these crimes, but but
if but if you put two and it's only two of them. All you have
to prove is that to any two of them put together is a
racketeering charge.
Adam Curry: That's the Georgia that's the special Georgia law
they have. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: think is well, I think that's all racketeering
laws, you only have to prove to to have the laundry list.
Adam Curry: So which ones are they going to try it and prove?
John C Dvorak: Well, I think one was he was picking his nose in
public. No.
Adam Curry: That is that is pretty offensive.
Unknown: The Georgia prosecutor spearheading a racketeering and
conspiracy case against former President Donald Trump and 18 of
his associates, is proposing the defendants be arraigned the week
of September 5. Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis
has also officially requested that a judge set the trial date
for March 4 2024. That's just a days before the state holds a
Republican presidential primary indictments in Georgia and
Washington DC are related to Trump's alleged attempt to
subvert the will of the people and overturn the results of the
2020 election. Trump also faces charges involving his handling
of classified documents, hush money payments and was found
liable on civil charges of sexual assault. Trump has
disputed all of the accusations as politically motivated. Trump
was indicted yet again this week. It has not made a
difference with many or most Republican voters to this point,
it seems but NPR is a medical launch and airports. Republican
candidates are grappling with how to handle Trump at their
first debate next week. Whether he shows up or not. Trump
is refusing to sign a pledge to support whomever the Republican
nominee is after the GOP primaries. And that's one of the
requirements of getting on the debate stage for the Republican
Party's first debate next week in Milwaukee that throws into
limbo whether or not the party's front runner for the nomination
will even be there. So
Adam Curry: what's the word on the street? Is Trump going to
the debates? Oh, he's
John C Dvorak: not good. No, he's not going to sign that
document. Pledge. Yeah, the pledge. Pledge. I did screw
those pledges you're supposed to sign so who's
Adam Curry: airing the debate?
John C Dvorak: Fox Yeah, I
Adam Curry: predicted ratings bonanza. Watch Trump do some
alternative things somewhere, do a speech. counterprogramming?
Like
John C Dvorak: I think there may be some readies Bonanza if I'm
going to play one more clip. This is the Vivec clip. Have you
seen this?
Adam Curry: I don't know which one it is. I've seen some vets
watch why.
John C Dvorak: Watch it. Watch a swami what's the guy running for
president
Adam Curry: runs all around the news Rama Swami.
John C Dvorak: Rama Rama
Adam Curry: Rama Swamy guy. You don't? You don't like this guy?
John C Dvorak: I don't like this guy because I think he's a
phony. But let's go with this. vecto Here's where he does his
rap. Republican
Unknown: presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy was wrapping up
an onstage interview at the Iowa State Fair last weekend when he
got his one shot one opportunity opens
his mouth but the words won't go in everybody's go canal
Swami performed m&ms classic song lose yourself. No video of
his performance was not lost, but was watched around 8 million
times on X formerly known as Twitter for a longshot candidate
like Ramaswamy. That was essential. You're
not just competing with your other candidates. You're
competing with everything. That's that grobman
He was the campaign manager for Andrew Yang's 2020 presidential
run a run that was powered by viral moments where he's
been weeks planning one of his early trips to South Carolina
and he had a bunch of big crowds and was doing really well. That
got essentially no coverage. What got coverage was him jazzer
sizing and ended up doing the cupid shuffle with a number of
older ladies.
But he says for those moments to actually work. They have to be
authentic
when politicians try to be cool or try to do something that's
authentic to them. But it's popular online, usually bombs
which
can be online big in the wrong way. So groundsman, gave his
candidates, some timeless advice, be yourself
and have some fun out there. And then what you do as a staff is
you build around that and have the cameras going at all times
and you lean into it,
although you should put a lot of planning into that improvised
moment. If
the candidates message is one thing and they can't identity as
a human is another thing. You can be in trouble, right? Like,
even if it's an authentic viral moment,
there's also no guarantee. Grohmann says that those moments
will translate into votes. There's
a big difference between doing well on Twitter and getting
people actually show up with a
ballot. They make Ramaswamy continues to be a longshot
candidate, but sometimes losing yourself is a good way to be the
center of conversation.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's good to head on backwards. He's
pumping his fist.
Adam Curry: No, no. It's not true. Yeah, it reminds me of
this. The dean, the Dean's scream, like the same. Newt
Gingrich actually had a pretty good take on what's going on
right now. And Fox News allowed him to say,
Unknown: I think we are drifting towards the greatest
constitutional crisis since the 1850s. And the rise of secession
and the Civil War. I don't mean that as hyperbole. If you read
any McCarthy's remarkable book, ball of collusion, which came
out in 2019, he makes very clear that it is Barack Obama, who
corrupts the Justice Department. It is Hillary Clinton, who
routinely breaks the law and gets away with it. And now we
have Joe Biden, who's learned, he's learned from Obama, that
doesn't matter what you do, if you're a liberal Democrat, you
will not be prosecuted. He learned from Hillary, that a
person in high public office can get millions and millions of
dollars. And they learned from watching Donald Trump, that a
true outsider willing to take on the entire system could destroy
their entire machine. So what you're seeing across the
country, is a desperate last ditch effort by a corrupt
machine to destroy their most dangerous opponent in a way,
which not only breaks the Constitution destroys the rule
of law, and establishes a moment of bitterness, which I think
will last for a generation or more. I think this is going to
be a horrendous period. And we just need to understand the
people who want to control America and dictate to the rest
of us will break any law lie about any topic and manipulate
the system any way they can. And that includes a lot of the elite
news media.
Adam Curry: I think that's right. I'm not I'm no Newt
Gingrich fan, but he nails it on with short, short breath, by the
way that what are they doing to the newt? Who's doing too well?
No
John C Dvorak: noise? I have no idea. Yeah, he's right.
Adam Curry: I think that nails it. So meanwhile, while all of
this is going on, they're sneaking in there sneaking in.
We got to get everybody ready. We've got to have me I think we
need mailing ballots again that that would be really good. So
let's start sneaking it back in. Here we go. Here we go. CBS us
is
Unknown: seeing an increase in COVID cases. Nobody wants to
hear that. hospitalization rates are up more than 12% in the most
recent weeks surveyed by the CDC. And in a sign of what could
be ahead COVID has been found and a rising number of
wastewater samples. The virus is usually detected in wastewater
up to a week before people start actually testing positive. CBS
News Medical contributor That's Dr. Celine gounder is with us.
She's editor at large for public health at K FF Good
morning to you, Dr. Celine. We're going enough already. We
are so ready to move on. It's been a long time since I've even
really even thought about COVID. But why are the cases going up?
And
Adam Curry: where What do you mean, you heard you just just
three days ago talking about a gale?
Unknown: Well, it's a combination of people letting
down their guard, I think a lot of people think, Oh, we were in
this bunker during the pandemic, it's gonna go away. And
unfortunately, it is still there. So just because you think
you're done with COVID doesn't mean that virus is not still
circulating, letting our guard down how well we're not masking
as much for example. And so on the plane, I'm asking, where
should we should wait, well, if you're in a crowded and more
public space, you might want to in certain situations,
particularly as we go into the fall, winter season, and where
we're seeing it go up the most right now is in the Midwest. Oh,
yes,
Adam Curry: of course. You know, the red states. You know,
they're all gonna die from COVID. John, do masks work
against COVID. I forgot. I'm pretty sure we looked at this.
Oh, no. What are you doing? Are you walking the dog? What do you
do? Come back, come back to the microphone. I've got more of Dr.
Celine.
Unknown: Now these hospitalizations are increasing.
How severe are these cases?
They are, on average, not more severe. Right now, if you look
at sort of ICU admissions, they're pretty stable. Okay. But
where we have seen an increase in ICU hospitalizations, it's
really in parts of the country where we have long standing
health disparities. The people who are ending up in the
hospital or in the ER, there are two particular age groups you
have infants zero to one who we know are very under vaccinated
less than 5% of those are back under vaccinated, vaccinated,
and then people over 75 Even if you have previously been
vaccinated, that group really is at higher risk and needs to be
boosted. All
Adam Curry: right, we need to boosting Alright, let's talk
about the booster. Here's what well why don't we got it? Let's
talk about that. Come on, girl. Give me a booster.
Unknown: There's also a new variant Eris, what can you tell
us about that? And then do we have a booster that will have to
help protect us against Eris?
New variants? I don't think anybody should be getting really
too worried about Eris. And in general, just because you hear
about a new variant doesn't mean this is something to panic
about. Okay.
Adam Curry: Well, that's good to hear. Oh, John, we don't have to
panic about it, just because we have a name,
Unknown: which and this is what viruses do they mutate, you're
gonna have new variants emerge. It is very closely related to x
BB, which is the variant, the most recent variant, the
vaccines that are coming out this fall are fine tuned for.
John,
Adam Curry: stop, okay, stop. You have to stop doing too many
sound effects, out of control, BV
Unknown: and will provide good protection against air and the
vaccines
in the boosters are still crucial and key, aren't they?
Well,
especially if you're in one of those high risk groups, so
people over 75, especially with the elderly, in general,
pregnant women, people who are immunocompromised within nursing
homes. What about the kids? A lot of kids haven't even gotten
their first round of vaccinations. Oh, infants really
need to get their first round and protect them ahead of the
fallen. You've been saying that since the beginning. And that
message has not changed. Thank you. No,
Adam Curry: yes. Thank you. Well, I wasn't really convinced
by CBS. I was like CBS okay, there's God's I'm sure Pfizer is
Pfizer is advertising. So it's those who said tell your kid you
gotta get a booster. You gotta get this. You know, if you're
old, you kill the babies. But on CNBC, they're all back in again.
Here's our boy, former FDA commissioner now on the board of
Pfizer and other fine bio bio companies. Dr. Scott Gottlieb.
John C Dvorak: Why do they keep putting this guy on because he
Adam Curry: is because they pay to have him put on? Okay,
John C Dvorak: nevermind, the
Unknown: new strain of COVID making its way around the
country and the World Health Organization has now called it a
variant of interest, meaning they're monitoring it for
mutations that could make it more severe. Joining us right
now, CNBC contributor, former FDA commissioner, Dr. Scott
Gottlieb, he serves on the boards of Pfizer and Illumina.
What's going on doctor I keep we keep hearing we actually have
had a bunch of guests cancel recently, because they got
COVID. What's happening here?
Adam Curry: That was in the script. You know, we've had some
guests cancel because they got COVID. Come on,
Unknown: but there's definitely a summer wave happening right
now. It's mostly this single variant is Aris variants eg
five, it has a new mutation in it that gives us some immune
escape over the prior omachron variants. Other countries have
experienced waves of infections with this same variant and it
hasn't caused increased hospitalizations or morbidity. I
mean, we have seen an uptick in hospitalizations, particularly
among those 70. And over so those who are immunocompromised
or older individuals, but nothing significant. And if you
look at the overall hospitalization rate right now,
in the US, it's significantly below where it was last time
last year, when we had a significant Omicron surge late
in the summer. So while this is concerning seeing cases go up,
there's certainly people who are vulnerable to this infection
continue to be vulnerable. There's nothing to suggest that
this particular strain that's circling the United States right
now is more pathogenic than the prior variants. And so people
who were vaccinated, the prior variants, who've had the
infection before her should have some residual immunity against
this, the thing we're looking at right now is the wastewater data
from a company called Bio box, you can actually find it online.
Because the hospitalization data isn't reliable. Neither is the
data on testing. It's not getting reported by a lot of
states and most people who are testing and testing at home. So
we were looking at the wastewater data. And the parts
of the country with infections are going up the most right now
in the Midwest and parts of the south. So that's where we're
seeing the surges of infection dummies. Do
Adam Curry: you see the messaging? The messaging is and
exactly exactly what we discussed? In the past three
years, wastewater, they're going to tell you where the dummies
are, thank you, the idiots who aren't vaccinated or whatever,
under vaccinated. It's all going to be red states. And it's all
based on the wastewater. And he said, Well, you can look it up.
You can look it up on bio bar. You can look it up online. Well
guess what we did? Hi.
Unknown: My name is Nisha Gailey, and I'm the co founder
and president of bio bot analytics biochar we're building
a global human health database. The first of its kind by
analyzing sewage. That sounds great. This is based on a simple
system called wastewater epidemiology. Everybody pees
every day. And we know that urine contains a rich source of
information on our health and well being. Our doctors look at
it all the time. And everyday, we're flushing this data down
the toilet where it's aggregating in public sewers. At
bio bot, we're building technology to extract and
analyze this information. And it's a much more elegant process
than this. Our work is based on research that was developed here
at MIT and led by my co founder Mariano Matos, and I, and this
is how it works.
Adam Curry: First of all, this sounds like an Elizabeth Holmes
scam. dynadot just she's got an Indian co founder. I'm here at
MIT. Oh, yeah, we and then I think this should be illegal.
She has no right to build a database off of everybody's PII,
the Global Health database, which she's now going to use to
geo locate. It will be geo locating, it won't just be
COVID. Who's Who's using Coke? Who's using weed? What apartment
building? Is there more weed? Who's using opioids? Let's find
out how it works.
Unknown: We start by mapping the wastewater network in a city.
This is Cambridge, Massachusetts. We layer land use
data and census data overtop of the network map. In order to
understand if we're collecting a sample from a given manhole,
exactly what the upstream catchment is, what the
demographics of that neighborhood are, don't be
looking at my manhole. We then deploy our hardware units in
these manholes where they hang just above water level pumping
sewage through a series of cartridges. The devices are then
removed and the cartridges are shipped back to our labs, where
we measure the concentration of viruses, bacteria and small
molecules that are all excreted in urine. Now the applications
are endless, we can begin to look at infectious disease
outbreaks and monitor that all the way through to understanding
the consumption of pharmaceutical products. So in
order to start we had to pick a very specific and targeted
application. And we decided to focus on the biggest public
health emergency in the United States today, the opioid
epidemic and
Adam Curry: there we go. Isn't that interesting? While
Unknown: this crisis continues, the best data that we have today
is counting overdoses. This data is extremely delayed reactive,
and it represents less than 1% of people who suffer from opioid
use disorder. We provide cities with neighborhood level data
Adam Curry: online saying I hadn't heard that before. Opioid
overuse disorder. It's called addiction.
John C Dvorak: This data is extremely good stop, we got to
stop. So they're going to isolate you all you have to do
is walk down the street. You don't need to be in the manhole.
Manhole, the Chelsea who's using they're doing it out in the
open.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but I think she's talking about people in
buildings. And they're doing it in manholes, which means you can
geo locate down to the building. And the next step is going to be
in the building. And then it's going to be on each floor. This
is a very dangerous development.
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm going to stop with it. If you're
thinking I'm actually gonna back you off to your original point.
This sounds a lot like an Elizabeth Holmes deal. There's
something for hinky about this I'd like to talk to some people
buy how granular you can really get because the amount of sample
they're taking as again like Elizabeth Holmes seems the
little low. They drop a sample I'd have that thing a little
package down a manhole up just above the sewage and they grab
us a test tube full I mean, I'm not I'm I'm very skeptical about
this working, I would be
Adam Curry: on equal footing with you on that. The reason why
it's interesting is that God leap is all in on it. God leap
is a dangerous guy. He's dangerous.
John C Dvorak: He should have been taken off the air years
ago.
Unknown: While this crisis continues. The best data that we
have today is counting overdoses. This data is
extremely delayed reactive and it represents less than 1% of
people who suffer from opioid use disorder, opioid use
disorder. We provide cities with neighborhood level data on drug
use and treatment that's updated every single month. What's the
Adam Curry: treatment? I wonder that they what data do they
deliver on treatment? Like hey, send some crack pipes here. Hey,
we need more syringes.
Unknown: We measure about 30 different drugs that range from
heroin illicit opioids like heroin and fentanyl, to
prescription opioids like codeine and Tramadol, as well as
substitution therapies like methadone and suboxone this
overall City View helps city if officials understand where to
deploy interventions, we can tell them what priority drugs
are so that they know what types of interventions to deploy. And
our trend data helps them evaluate whether those
interventions are actually working. This,
Adam Curry: this should not be illegal. And where, where do you
think they're starting this? What state would be a good one
to start? Florida? No, I would, that would be really good.
Unknown: Our first customer in North Carolina was able to
decrease overdoses by 40%. By leveraging our data and only six
months go
Adam Curry: how? Oh, we got some got some opioid use disorder.
John C Dvorak: I don't see it. I don't either. But it's just
this, I'm convinced that your initial thoughts on this are
they're accurate ones. This is bullcrap. How you can, if you if
you dump a like a, like a cup of bleach in your toilet, because
you're LSE you're cleaning your toilet. And you're are you using
the liquid plumber, which is introducing a bunch of young
sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide into the system, or
chlorine can be dumped in with some, some bleach, this is this
contaminate this reacts with anything that they're trying to
do, especially the only taking these little samples. This is
this is not, this is bull. It may
Adam Curry: be but they're going to be using it. So yes, I'm with
you on that. But if she's got godly been on this, that's a
problem. I'm gonna finish this godly
John C Dvorak: maybe just naively thinking that God, he's
any of this. He's anything but
Unknown: naive. We told them that prescription opioids were
what was most commonly used, and therefore they focused all their
resources and interventions on that, in just a little over a
year, we have grown from being deployed in that one city to now
being launched across eight with 100% retention. And with that,
we're one step closer to achieving our mission, which is
to transform wastewater infrastructure around the world
into a public health Observatory.
Adam Curry: This sounds creepy. Let's go back to God Lee,
Unknown: Scott, we don't have free testing anymore.
We don't have this free test kits. So
you get in the mail. And so I'm wondering if you think that you
know, is a surge much greater than than we know, and how do
you think this plays into,
you know, when we go into the colder months and COVID might
become more, more rampant?
If we don't have those free tests? Are we more apt to sort
of do this for
Adam Curry: free? Cash? No, no tests? No. We're just going to
do wastewater testing.
Unknown: This is if you look at the wastewater data, this
infection right now, this new variant is very prevalent last
week was about 20% of all infections in the US rising
rapidly. I would suspect that when we see the data at CDC,
this Friday, it's going to be about 50% of all infections that
are happening in the country. And that's always backward
looking. So it's probably more than that. So this is quite
prevalent right now, around the country, particularly in the
Midwest, parts of the Midwest right now, in terms of the
testing, there's gonna be more
John C Dvorak: contradiction there. Okay. He said that the
wastewater testing was forward looking. Because the wastewater
is these things will show up before people even have
symptoms. But now he's saying it's backward looking. Can you
make up his mind? Let's listen again. Now this is him saying it
was forward looking. He says the wastewater will show this these
spikes and before people even know they got the disease. Did
you say that now? The opposite
Adam Curry: you say that in the first clip? Yeah. Let's go back
and listen for a second
Unknown: new strain of COVID. making its way around the
contracts cancel recently, because they
got COVID is same variant and it hasn't caused increased
hospitalizations or morbidity. I mean, we have seen up versus
those who are immunocompromised or older individual year, when
we had a significant Omicron surge late in the summer
horrible. There's nothing to suggest that this particular
strain that's circling the United States right now is more
pathogenic than the prior variants. And so people who were
vaccinated prior variants who have had the infection before
should have some residual immunity against this, the thing
we're looking at right now is the wastewater data from a
company called Bio box, you can actually find it online. Because
the hospitalization data isn't reliable. And neither is the
data on testing. It's not getting reported by a lot of
states, and most people who are testing and testing at home. So
we were looking at the wastewater data, and the parts
of the country where the infections are going up the most
right now in the Midwest and parts of the south. So that's
where we're seeing the surges of infection.
Adam Curry: I didn't say anything about forward looking
there. Not sure he's
John C Dvorak: playing is
Adam Curry: that was the end of the first clip. I'm going now to
though, going back maybe says it here, Scott,
Unknown: we don't have free testing anymore. We don't have
this free test kits they get in the mail. And so I'm wondering
if you think that you know, is the surge much greater than than
we know, and how do you think this plays into,
you know, when we go into the colder months and COVID might
become more more rampant
if we don't have those free tests? Are we more apt to sort
of to spread this
Adam Curry: listen to her leaving the witnessed this is so
obvious what's going on here.
Unknown: This is if you look at the wastewater data, this
infection right now, this new variant is very prevalent it
last week was about 20% of all infections in the US rising
rapidly. I would suspect that when we see the data to CDC,
this Friday, it's going to be about 50% of all infections that
are happening in the country. And that's always backward
looking. So it's probably more than that. So this is quite
prevalent right now, around the country, particularly in the
Midwest parts of the Midwest right now, in terms of the
testing, it's going to be more difficult to get access to the
testing this winter, there's no question about that this
variance probably going to come and go this fall, we're probably
going to see a newer variant emerge by the time we get into
the late fall in the winter. So this particular strain, isn't
that worrisome in terms of its pathogenicity relative to what
we've seen before. We don't know what's going to come next. But
this is going to run its course, probably by the end of September
into October, this particular variant, I think, will have
moved around the country.
Adam Curry: So this is the way I see it. The plan is wastewater
testing a man we saw this coming, John, we were laughing
about it, but we saw it coming wastewater, especially with the
polio. Yes. And now they're doing it with drugs. And they
didn't mention anything about their COVID. And you know,
remember how great these COVID tests were, we're not going to
give away these free tests because they work so well.
Anyway, we're not going to do that. I've got a dozen of them.
You don't need any of those free tests. We're just going to spend
all the money on this Elizabeth Holmes character. And we're
going to lock down portions of cities because you have high
COVID levels in your pee. I'm telling you, this is the way
they're going and Gottlieb is all in on it.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I think you're also dropping the
ball on another one of your early assertions, which is this
will lead to do this at the last minute this will lead to mail in
ballots. Yes, of course, because the wastewater shows that
everyone's sick. Yeah,
Adam Curry: you can't Oh, wait. Hey, are you from this quadrant?
John C Dvorak: You're in red states. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Of
course. Yeah. Thanks. You
Adam Curry: are in quadrant five you may not go to vote you will
have your mail in ballots dropped off in front of your
building. That's what's gonna happen. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: What is that new device? What is this you using?
I
Adam Curry: don't know. It's just something that don't have
my megaphone with me.
John C Dvorak: This is better than the megaphone. Really?
Adam Curry: You like this one? Okay. The drone will be dropping
off your mail in ballots in front of your quadrant building.
Do not worry Do not be alarmed stay indoors. Stay indoors
John C Dvorak: megaphone has his has his place. Yeah, but this is
different. This is creepier.
Adam Curry: By the way, let's just see, besides the vaccine of
n and b, what really worked. ivermectin works for people
hydroxychloroquine although I never tried that, that seemed to
work for people. And monoclonal antibodies that that is what I
think Joe Rogan was say was really what got him over his
COVID and just a couple of days.
Unknown: But yeah, and it's Paxil, Ovid, which is really the
only I mean, people are not doing using any of the other
types of Oh,
Adam Curry: listen, CNBC. People really only using Paxil COVID
Let me Paxil was the only way to go right
Unknown: Scott and is Paxil, Ovid, which is really only I
mean, people are not mean, let me let me show
Adam Curry: you my script. Packs lovebirds. I mean, I mean,
there's nothing there's nothing else right doing
Unknown: using any of the other types of medications anymore.
This is
Adam Curry: that nerd from the New York Times. Isn't that that
this guy, Sanger? No, no, no, no, no, the one who wrote the
Botha Galileo got
John C Dvorak: kicked off the I got kicked out because he was so
many conflicts of interest.
Adam Curry: No, no, yeah, no, this is this the founder can't.
What's his name? Yeah, I think so. He didn't get kicked off
anything. They love him.
John C Dvorak: I think no, I don't think you weren't rich at
times anymore. Oh, that's possible.
Adam Curry: That's possible, is
Unknown: that the only is that the only real sort of firewall
for especially for older people firewall,
Adam Curry: oh, it's a firewall. It's
Unknown: the only drug that's widely available right now.
Merck has a drug as well, that's on the market. It's used a
little less by physicians. I'm on the board of Pfizer, as you
know which markets packs elevate the monoclonal antibodies aren't
available anymore. The companies haven't continued to make new
versions of monoclonal antibodies to target the
existing variants. Pfizer as well as other companies have
second generation antivirals in development. So I think we'll
see continued innovation in this space. But right now pack slove
is a highly effective drugs properly used when for patients
who are properly indicated for it really
Adam Curry: made people sick find Pfizer product. Yeah. kill
people. Sorkin that's his name. Sorkin Andrew Ross Sorkin
Sorkin, the boondocking Sorkin reading the script anyway, NBC
didn't really get the they didn't get any money. NBC didn't
getting my CBS got the money. CNBC got the money but NBC Today
Show him no money. Do
Unknown: you think we'll soon be at a point where or the medical
community decides, Okay, we're going to stop calling this a
booster. We're going to say this is a COVID shot, like the flu
shot, and it will maybe be a seasonal thing. Is there any
indication of COVID being seasonal? I mean, why haven't we
transitioned from booster which seems to imply one uptick and
you're done? Why haven't you transitioned from that language
to more of like flu shot type language?
You know, Ellison? I think the short answer is this virus
continues to humble those who try to make predictions. You
know, we all want this to be a seasonal thing, just like the
flu go away in the summer, come back in the winter, you get your
shot, you're good to go. But as we've seen with this uptake, and
we've seen in the previous summers, this virus really it
just humbles those who try to play a crystal ball and predict
things. So really, I do think we're going to get to that
point. I don't think we're there yet. Especially if you are high
risk, we are recommending more frequent vaccines. I think a lot
of people are wondering do I need to bring the mass back? And
I think the question is, you know, really ask yourself is if
you're high risk look just like you do the weather. If it's
raining you grab an umbrella look at the COVID cases give it
like an umbrella think of a mask like an umbrella if there are a
lot of cases out there grabbing and grabbing a knife and then
the five or 1095 You know it's they still work yeah, that way
Adam Curry: you can identify your fellow Democrats during the
mail in ballot period. This is it's so obvious to me. It's like
they're setting everything up. We have drones flying around
dropping off and and K 90 fives but you know you can't No no,
no, no, no, you can't go out stay in there. This building is
no good in this city in these red states when you know what,
everyone will fall for it. You will go right down that same
path it'll be exactly what
John C Dvorak: have Joe Biden in his President again.
Adam Curry: They have a term for it here. I was talking to a
couple of people that that were not really big on a lot of it
just like Texas here as I said and they the term they have as
balco Nazis balca Nazis was people who would if you were
walking on the street, they'd be on their balcony yelling at you
to get off the street Dalkon Nazis
John C Dvorak: to think it's kind of good Elka Nazis. Belkin
balcony nods
Adam Curry: balcony Nazi Yep.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Balcony talker. Nazis.
Adam Curry: Yeah.
John C Dvorak: off the street.
Adam Curry: Get off the street. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can see it.
Adam Curry: But maybe, maybe there's a solution. You know,
when when all the residents when the the legal residents are, are
locked in their homes, because you know, have to pee water. The
wastewater shows that this you know, you're all infected.
You're all seething with infection. You can't come out
and we can kill we can keep everything working. They've
already figured that out too. And, I mean, I know it's a grand
conspiracy theory, but but I think they've got it set
especially in New York. Tonight.
Unknown: A new battle is brewing over how New York City's
handling the record breaking influx of migrants Mayor Eric
Adams pushing back after the state's governor Kathy Hall
calls fellow Democrat accused him of not doing enough
if her observation is that here's some things that you can
do differently. We're all in one thing. No one is stating that we
didn't do the house 100,000 people unlike any of the city,
it
comes after a lawyer for the governor today sent a scathing
letter saying the city faces a serious crisis and has failed to
accept the state's offer of assistance and should do more to
act in a proactive manner. The mayor opening to new shelters
and he's repeatedly slammed the federal government for not doing
enough to help the city. Today we spoke with Carla from Ecuador
with her four year old daughter outside the iconic Roosevelt
Hotel in Manhattan, which has been turned into a migrant
housing facility. They keep us in operation opportunity. She
says many of us just want to work across the country. Other
major cities are also struggling with the influx in Massachusetts
governor just declared a state of emergency it's unsustainable
in New York since last year, more than 100,000 asylum seekers
have arrived more than 58,000 are now in shelters and
officials estimate the housing and caring for migrants will
cost city taxpayers $12 billion by 2025. However, may your items
argues a major step to solve this crisis would be allowing
migrants to get work
Adam Curry: permits. There you go. There you go.
John C Dvorak: That's interesting that I have a very
similar report, but I don't think it's from the same source.
I think this may be n di D. This is New York State versus New
York City one.
Unknown: New York Governor Kathy Hinkle says the illegal
immigrant crisis in Manhattan is the city's own fault. In
response to Mayor Adams requests for recent requests for more
help and to these Arlene Richards reports. In
a 12 page Letter Tuesday new York Governor Kathy huncle
blamed Mayor Eric Adams lack of coordination for New York City's
illegal immigrant crisis. The letter responds to the city's
requests last week for help in managing the crisis.
The state can support us by taking reasonable actions to
ease the burden of our city. We need a state wide decompression
strategy to help free up space in our shelter system and reduce
the pressure when our city's resources. The state recently
announced humanitary relief centers that they will reimburse
us for but we need more decompression
Adam Curry: strategy. That's interesting.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Crazy. is part two,
Unknown: the New York Times reports that Adams had written a
letter to the state in response to a Manhattan Supreme Court
order. The court's order comes in response to a claim filed by
the Legal Aid Society asking the court to enforce a years old
decree. The decree requires the city to provide a bed to anyone
who asks for it. Adams letter laid out numerous requests,
including asking the state to cover two thirds of the cost of
shelter in the absence of meaningful federal funding and
asking for a statewide relocation program to resettle
groups of new arrivals throughout the state's counties.
The governor's reply criticizes the city for failing to accept
numerous state offers of assistance over the last year.
For example, She says the State offered more than a dozen state
owned sites that could provide temporary shelter to more than
3000 migrants. But the city did not accept the offer the letter
states Mayor Adams office had no immediate comment on the state's
letter. But huncle herself has been criticized by the mayor and
community organizations for not taking a more proactive approach
to ease the city's burdens without help from the state and
federal governments. Adams fears the worst. We
don't get the support we need new yorkers could be left for a
$12 billion
bill. Arlene Richards NTD news.
John C Dvorak: Did you hear that in there that there's a state
law that says if you go to New York and you have demand divided
they have to give you one I didn't know that was that's
detour should take advantage of this.
Adam Curry: Yeah, and you get to stay in the Roosevelt Hotel
where tourists used to stay, which is a real real craphole
the Roosevelt Hotel Oh ma'am that is the worst and JR imagine
that filled with with families who are just in distress. I'm
telling you, it is such a perfect setup. Because you know
when not only while most New Yorkers are at home because the
wastewater says so. awaiting their their N nine and 95 masks
to wear while screaming out over there'll be in bulk Nazis. Then
the illegal immigrants, asylum seekers, they will be working to
keep the city going. And when you work, you know what I mean?
Come on. It's only fair they get to vote. This is so obvious.
John C Dvorak: But you know what's coming after that?
Especially in the spur of the moment Internet voting.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, you've been talking about that forever.
Internet voting. Yeah. How is San Francisco doing? Have you
been into the city recently?
John C Dvorak: Well, let's play a couple of clips.
Adam Curry: Can I start you off with something from the BBC just
to make sure that we're on the up and up here. Sure.
Unknown: San Francisco that liberal enterprising city in the
union's wealthiest state is struggling more than most,
despite numerous attempts to crack down on drugs. The city is
already on course this year to beat its drug death record from
2020 When 712 people died. The violence, crime and homelessness
that comes with the problem has made parts of downtown San
Francisco, so treacherous. But now hundreds of federal workers
at the department for health and human services have been advised
by their bosses to work from home, rather than risk the
commute at the building. A memo said quote, in light of the
conditions at the federal building, we recommend employees
maximize the use of telework for the foreseeable future.
Adam Curry: Does that line up with what you're seeing? It's so
dangerous
John C Dvorak: that building by the way, which is called the
Nancy Pelosi building, though, that's the Pelosi federal
building. I know where that building is, is not in the worst
part of town, that's for sure. But there's still a lot of
homeless around there. And there's still a bunch of
encampments. And when you go if you have to go there. And I
haven't been there for a while but I went a few years ago. I
would always take bringing an extra couple of dollars and find
some guy and tell him to guard my car.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, it makes sense. Yeah. And they do it.
Yeah, really. You can trust Um
John C Dvorak: Well I don't know if you can trust all of them but
there was I run into you can Okay, now you have your hands it
says like I'm going there all the time. I'm sure some guys I
mean, I think the way you could deal with it so here's your
here's a couple of dollars and here's four quarters, put him in
the meter if the meter starts running out,
Adam Curry: may I may I, may I play a description from this BBC
reporter about the areas since you've now eloquently told us is
not even the worst
Unknown: is not the worst time in days. Who is West Coast
financial editor for The Financial Times, um, you know,
this area of downtime quite well. What's it like describe it
for us?
I actually walked through the area you're talking about this
morning that it's a block on seventh and mission downtown in
the soma district where this federal building is where
they've asked people not to come to the office. And it's bad. I
mean, a lot of the downtown area, particularly this block,
and other areas like the tenderloin, it's just completely
unremarkable now to see people crowds of people kind of using
drugs very openly, or unconscious from the effects of
drugs on the pavements, and it's just quite unpleasant and it's
really just very, very visible and
tabby. When you walk down that part of town, what are you
looking at? Are you looking at drug deals happening? Are there
people on the floor? I mean, what can you actually see?
John C Dvorak: Anything?
Adam Curry: Her name is precious to tabby. Hey, Tabby, what did
you see? Do you see people on the floor?
Unknown: Yeah, I mean, there's this morning there were rows of
tents which actually is is quite unusual for San Francisco
because recently
Adam Curry: with this you say unusual. Yeah, unusual Tabby
John C Dvorak: Tabby Rosa tents everywhere.
Adam Curry: Doesn't make sense, tabby? Yeah, it's
Unknown: I mean, there's this morning there were rows of
tents, which actually is, is quite unusual for San Francisco
because recently the government the local government has been
very good at clearing out in camp tenting Hammonds kind of as
quickly as possible.
Adam Curry: Toby, clearly walking in a different part of
town
Unknown: rows of tents, groups of people kind of clustered on
the floor in various states of consciousness. Now.
John C Dvorak: What happened was, she saw the Rosa chants
because they're everywhere. But she was under the impression
that's right. Because of the new they cleared all these out. And
so she she, she took it at face value to make the commentary
that oh, this is unusual when it's not unusual. I have a shit
Java reporting is what we're dealing with here.
Adam Curry: Hey, it's the BBC, who do you think you're talking
about here? I have a feeling that tabby. You're right, Tabby
probably hasn't been on foot through this area. And quite
honestly, I'm not so sure she was on foot when she did this.
I'm sure she was in an Uber drive by a drive bys
Unknown: is quite unusual for San Francisco because recently
the government, the local government has been very good at
clearing out and kind of as quickly as possible. But rows of
tents, groups of people kind of clustered on the floor in
various states of consciousness. drug paraphernalia, foil pipes,
kind of just very visible, it's everywhere. And you know,
there's, there's rubbish everywhere, human extra rubbish
place doesn't smell very nice. But I mean, it's almost ironic,
oh, she cracked the window, because at this federal building
has asked some staff not to come to work because part of the
reason the homelessness and the drug use is so bad in that part
of town is because there has been a big emptying out of
workers since the pandemic, lots of tech work, workers haven't
come back. Companies have really embraced remote working. So you
have this kind of ironic like self fulfilling prophecy where
the area's quiet, it becomes more overrun with drug uses.
People don't want to go to it and it just kind of the cycle
repeats itself, but they
Adam Curry: should do that.
John C Dvorak: Okay, hold on a second. Let
Adam Curry: me say they should do that wastewater testing
because that they assault 40% of the problem. So
John C Dvorak: let's get a couple of things straight. The
tech workers aren't in this part of town. No, no. Only Twitter's
where the San Francisco Chronicle is. This is where, you
know, there's a couple of malls there and some stores that are
leaving Nordstroms so that this is poorly done, to say the
least. But let's play my San Francisco clips. Okay, I have
three of them. Okay, including one about the driverless car
fiasco that we've been talking about. Okay, so we are NorCal s
f is going to misspelled the word crime one.
Unknown: I work from home notice for federal employees in San
Francisco. They were told to work remotely for the
foreseeable future due to drug use and rising crime. By the
way, this
Adam Curry: is not coordinated. I think this is I love this. We
both have clip It's about this, this work from home order. And
I'm all the way in Europe
Unknown: is great on their office building. Congressman
Kevin Kiley of California had this to say
nowadays when you think about the city, you're less likely to
think about the Golden Gate Bridge and the trolley cars and
the wharf than you are to think about bashed in windshields and
open air drug markets and wastes littered streets. The
issue was first reported by the San Francisco Chronicle, it
involves an 18 story building that houses various federal
agencies. A video posted on social media platform X shows
dozens of individuals simultaneously using fentanyl
steps from the federal workplace. The video was posted
by a longtime San Francisco resident Darren stalcup. He says
he's seen San Francisco go from being the cultural capital of
the world to the technological capital of the world to now the
fentanyl capital of the world. Yeah, guidance for federal
employees to teleconference adds to the growing office space
vacancy in the city. Congressman Kiley also wrote on acts in
recent months San Francisco's decline has reached a point of
total collapse. The state announced the deployment of the
National Guard to the area. The number of police officers
doubled in June. Congratulations
Adam Curry: from finger number one.
John C Dvorak: There's no doubling of anything. You can't
find a cop anywhere around
Adam Curry: the world. Fentanyl breed
John C Dvorak: instead of taking care of this mayor breed or
democrat Mayor she's in Hawaii. So oh, she
Adam Curry: vacation vacation. He
John C Dvorak: was in Maui during the fires. That's right.
That's right. So let's go clip to of San Francisco. Personally,
I
Unknown: was born and raised in the San Francisco Bay area. I've
seen firsthand. pounds of fentanyl.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, I'm having the troll room telling me
that she said something funny at the end she said curl up instead
of collapse. Was that a weird edit.
Unknown: Congressman Kiley also wrote on x in recent months, San
Francisco's decline has reached a point of total collapse. The
state announced you said two lap cola.
Adam Curry: She did good Castro room
Unknown: collapse. Personally, I
was born and raised in the San Francisco Bay area. I've seen
firsthand pounds of fentanyl are distributed and used right there
on the corner of seventh commission. And you know, I
personally seen countless people overdose and it's a very
pressing issue in San Francisco right now.
When did you see a noticeable decline.
This happened over a period of 10 to 20 years, you know, 2015,
there was so much hope and aspirations for San Francisco,
the south and market area was transforming faster than ever
before. Somewhere between all this advancement in technology,
there was a decline in humanity. And for many years, the
community has been voting progressively for liberal ideas.
And personally, I believe that, you know, what's happening in
our community is a direct result of electing corrupt Democrats
who have placed profits above the families of our community.
And progressive policy is making everything progressively worse.
Harm reduction is causing more harm. So
Adam Curry: this is this is encouraging. The residents are
saying hey, it's our politicians. They're finally
waking up to this.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, good luck. As I've said These elections are
rigged. You know, you're let's you're
Adam Curry: gonna be that last guy with this one house.
John C Dvorak: Over here on this? Yeah. Yeah. So Chinese,
it's all Chinese from China much better. So yeah, cuz
everything's best price. Yes. So let's, but let's ignore this and
go to Southern California or
Adam Curry: Los Angeles? Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay.
John C Dvorak: Clip
Adam Curry: cash. Your question? Yeah. Christina was asked me
this. She said when Ronald Reagan was president, even when
he was governor was was California. Really Republican?
Was it a red state at the time? Or was it kind of mixed?
John C Dvorak: It was a mixed state and it Republicans easily
got in and we had two or three Republican governors and then
out of the blue, it plays became almost completely Democrat. And
that
Adam Curry: do you? Can you point to what that what that how
that change happened? Or what that was? Was everyone just fed
up with things being great? No,
John C Dvorak: I think it had to Yes. I think it had to do with
the Republican Party becoming highly religious and turning off
the electorate.
Adam Curry: Ah, okay. And so the Oh, that makes sense that the
John C Dvorak: California Republican Party is about as
useless as any party mechanism in all
Adam Curry: all the states. Okay. So then it but if you go
John C Dvorak: to a meeting somewhere the independents are
because boy they just complain about these guys like there's
nothing they won't give anyone money there just is a bunch of
Adam Curry: what's what's going on in the background there's
there's like some I have no idea so loud a lot of noise
John C Dvorak: is some does some crazy noise. Okay, all right.
Probably have no idea what it is mostly SoCal one smash
Unknown: and grab robberies have hit Southern California once
again facts are happening more frequently and Los Angeles
County and today's Cristina Corona has more from the two
latest stores that were hit
on Sunday, a shopper recorded two suspects stealing from a
Nike store in East LA on Whittier Boulevard. The video
posted on the citizen app shows the suspects running in with
trash bags and taking off with about $1,000 worth of shoes and
other items. No injuries were reported. We asked local
residents if this makes them afraid to shop and what to be
aware of. In
a way it does, you know, because I have a kid so I am always
looking out for his safety. So yeah, it's just that that
they're you know, going into our community and that way, being
that it is a low income community and you know, and
there
were like, lucky to have a Nike store here. You never know what
the person's gonna have a knife, a gun, they're not thinking
straight, doesn't matter. Just be careful. But people were
gonna come in and try to find easy places like this. Now,
there's a lot of the requirements for companies. They
tell you don't. Don't follow them. They'll talk to him don't
think they just it's not worth it. Because the thing is that
loss will be written off. It'd be a write off for taxes and
beer for insurance. Whatever it is, they don't nobody loses.
Yes,
Adam Curry: yes. Everybody loses in the end my friend.
John C Dvorak: I think I've done read your card deck is that was
the reason I stopped that clip there because horrible thing to
say. It's a horrible because everybody loses you have to pay
more in insurance and taxes go up for everybody else. This is
bullcrap. Where do you get that idea? But But that idea is
pushed by the education system by the by the Democrats and
Adam Curry: once we got that law, which is nine up to $900
You know you can go scot free. That really solidified it. This
smash and grabs are here we go to nine. We
Unknown: reached out to the Nike store. You know,
Adam Curry: it has Mimi's head fallen down onto the desk yet
she listening to this show.
Unknown: We reached out to the Nike store but they declined to
comment. The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department said this
particular store is targeted weekly, and on Saturday video
posted on the citizen app captured 20 to 50 Thieves
swarming a Nordstrom at the Westfield Topanga shopping
center in Canoga Park as they cleared out the store during a
destructive robbery. The video shows thieves wearing all black
violently grabbing whatever merchandise they can carry. With
many thieves seen ripping off the security devices attached to
designer purses and luggage items. Officials say 60,000 to
$100,000 worth of merchandise was stolen. Police are still
searching for the suspects involved following the viral
video rapper 50 cent row on Instagram I told you LA was
finished they are going to have to lock the doors appointment
only SMH This comes just weeks after he commented about the
reinstatement of the zero bail policy in Los Angeles County
saying La is finished.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the zero bail policy. Oh goodness zero
John C Dvorak: bail policy I figured out and they wonder why
this is going on.
Adam Curry: I figured out what that sound is behind you.
John C Dvorak: What is it? Well, a
Unknown: dangerous alien Hornet has invaded the US for the first
time ever. The yellow legged Hornet you see is there is a
relative of what we know as the murder Hornet and alert spotted
one on his property near Savannah, Georgia and contacted
Agriculture officials know the pest preys on honey bees and
poses an extreme risk to the honey industry unless it's taken
out pretty quickly.
Adam Curry: Motor Hornet
John C Dvorak: well is this different than the murder Hornet
I don't know. I think it's the same one they eat honey bees to
this big ugly thing this is just mispronounce murder.
Adam Curry: Now that's possible mode. It was it was the script
was was smudged. I think what they should have said is this is
climate change that would have made more sense climb out that
delta good climate change, climate change talking about
John C Dvorak: climate change. I do have a couple of clips. Okay.
Now this is a clip. It's a great clip. The problem is and it was
sent to me and we can't find the source of it but it's obviously
some TV interview show in Australia. And and people
listening to this I would like to get to source I'd like to
know who the interviewer is and who the woman is okay. And she's
a woman that worked in government and she was
Environmental and the was the EPA but she worked for one of
the British or sorry, Australian legislators. And she's kind of
an expert and this information, I was starting to think about
what she has to say here. And I have to say, oh, you know, what
she say has to be true. And here we go. And
Unknown: I'm sorry, I used to work for the federal
government. I did, yeah, for seven years doing why I was
policy advisor for a Liberal Party senator, the area that I
was working in with renewable energy. And basically, it was my
job to uncover a lot of the stuff that was going on with the
Renewable Energy Act, which was put in in 2002, under the Howard
Government. So that was the Liberal Party put the act in
place, and I was looking at the mess that it had created. And
what a lot of people don't understand is that the Renewable
Energy Act creates a subsidy environment where if you build
wind turbines, you're paid between 600,900 1000 per ton per
year, as a subsidy alone. Well, if it's on your property, no. So
what happens is the wind company comes in and they pay a lease to
the farmer to build the wind turbines. And that, in effect,
makes sure that the farmer is still liable for the turbine.
And they pay a lease of $12,000 a year usually. And the company
gets paid between 609 100,000 per turbine per year.
So they pay 12,000 to the farmer, but they get $600,000.
Exactly. Per turbine. Yeah. This is a big incentive to put in
turbines.
Yeah. And the land owner takes the liability for the turbine.
So
he gets $12,000 a year. But if anything happens, really he's
got to fix it. Or she's got to fix Yeah,
when they catch on fire. Yeah, they're responsible for their
neighbor's properties going up in smoke. Yeah, I
Adam Curry: saw I was I sent this clip as well, I remember
this.
John C Dvorak: And for some reason, I think you also got
sent no got sent to you and me. So let's go to part two. And
part two is actually I think, is even more interesting, because
it brings to mind just a consideration of the laws of
physics. And
Unknown: effectively, that money the subsidy that's getting paid
to the wind farms is reaming $40 billion a year out of the
Australian economy. And it's paid by everyone. Every
pensioner householder, schools, hospitals, everyone, it's not
just out of your tax, it comes out of your power bill. Just
went parables are going up. Yeah, that's terrible. So going
up to pay for wind turbines that don't work. Exactly. And why
don't they work?
So they don't work? Because for a start, they draw power off the
grid. So they have to have coal fired power in order to turn
windmills, the turbines. And essentially,
what do you mean the power to turn so when we see them
turning, that's not the wind, that's the power generator
turning,
essentially, they have to draw power off the grid. So they have
to draw coal fired power off the grid in order to turn. And what
happens when the wind picks up, they do actually start to create
electricity of their own. But that electricity is so
intermittent and unreliable. When it gets back to the grid.
It has to be balanced on the grid, which you can't do. And
like with your coal fired power session, you can't ramp your
coal fired power stations up and down. So the coal fired power
station says at the same level, because it takes 24 to 48 hours
for them to get up to heat anyway. And they just let off
steam as the wind comes onto the grid. So there's absolutely
nothing about them that works apart from reaming that amount
of money out of the Australian economy and it's going offshore.
Adam Curry: I think this lady is dead.
John C Dvorak: They killed her. So I was thinking about it
because those big giant turbines that you'll see nowadays,
they're huge everywhere. Yeah, the wind can't get those things
going. There's no way physically possible. So they didn't realize
to be turned on.
Adam Curry: They gotta be kickstarted. They need a little
booster.
John C Dvorak: They gotta be beyond Kickstarter, they have to
be spinning to a point where the wind can actually contribute to
the to the force that's used to make him spin around. Just the
laws of physics can tell you that if those things are just
staying, if they're just standing there with those big
blades that you can't get those blades to move with just with a
30 mile an hour breeze or 40 Even and you have to start them
yourself.
Adam Curry: I wish I wish more people understood what's going
on. I mean, I have bumped into so many people are on Holland,
who are all in on this nano wind is good? Yeah, it's good. It
really makes sense. You know, we've been using windmills since
the 1400s. Yeah, windmill on
John C Dvorak: a radio show. I did real computing years ago, I
had the father dozer interview show. I had the father of modern
wind power. Who did all those blades that you see in the
ultimate pass and in Palm Springs, you know, the small
ones? Yeah. And he had, I had a lot of very interesting chat
with him. And I would like to I got a fine, do some research and
find out who that guy is, again, because I have to ask him about
these
Adam Curry: blades. He's dead. He's dead. He's not going to
kill them all. I mean, it's just like right now these fires. And
and there's a lot of talk about the fires all over Europe. This
is state of fear by Michael Crighton. This is exactly what
this is. We'll get to Maui in a minute. I mean, we'll get to my
problem after the break. But all of this is all climate change
related. They are pushing it they are ramming it down our
throats. Did you hear about this, this landmark case in
Montana.
John C Dvorak: No town,
Unknown: landmark climate change lawsuit, a group of young people
successfully sue the government in Montana for failing to
protect them from climate change. Kevin Dwyer is in
Washington for those details for us. Good morning, Devin. Hey,
good morning, Robin. This is the first time a US court has ruled
that the government violated the rights of children by failing to
protect them from climate change. This was a case bought
by kids ages five to 22. They testified in court about the
impacts of wildfires, drought and floods near their homes. The
judge in the case that scientific evidence clearly
links those events to fossil fuels being promoted by the
state. And she declared that the state's constitution guarantees
a right to a clean and healthful environment which includes the
climate. The decision now means that officials will be required
to consider greenhouse gas emissions when they consider new
oil and gas projects in the state of Montana. The state says
it will appeal this decision. But it is inspiring this morning
groups of young people and a number of other states to sue
their governments to do more about climate change who
Adam Curry: is inspiring to sue the school. Now what's
interesting is a clip custodian got two clips for me, one from
ABC about the story one from NBC both exactly the same length.
Let's see if the content is the same. And
Unknown: in Montana today, a landmark court decision a judge
siding with a group of young people who accused the state of
violating their rights by supporting fossil fuels. And
Thompson joins us now. And this could be a game changer it could
last year and it's a sweeping victory for the 16 young people
who brought the case. The first of its kind to go to trial, a
district judge ruled that their right to a clean and healthful
environment as guaranteed by Montana's constitution was
violated because the state prohibited agencies from taking
climate change impacts into consideration when evaluating
fossil fuel projects. The judge also ruled that the ban was
unconstitutional. The judge found the state knew about the
dangers of greenhouse gases from fossil fuels for at least 30
years. And that until the concentrations are reduced. She
says young people will be unable to lead clean and healthy lives
in Montana. The state says it will appeal a spokesperson
called the trial absurd and a publicity stunt.
John C Dvorak: Publicity stunt was really bad about this is
that this took place in Montana. Yes, were you think that no
better than no better? And no, Montana has got wide open skies
as clean as a whistle of dirt. I mean, I guess if you're downwind
of a copper mine. We are talking about rubbish. I thought you had
to have these clips, you're gonna do
Adam Curry: them back to back. So I just played them that you
heard two of them back to back, though I thought do I said you
had another one? Okay. Rubisco member Rubisco. We talked about
in the last show this protein stuff made from alfalfa. Rob
Rubisco, which is supposed to give you all the protein you
need. So now a Saudi company is in Arizona, and they have been
given unlimited water rights to grow alfalfa in Arizona, which
is not really good right now. And this will be turned into
Rubisco. And in that same Rubisco report we had we heard
that one ounce of broccoli is the same protein as one ounce of
steak. That was doctors Sailesh
John C Dvorak: Rao from the clinic and then we debunked it
on the spot.
Adam Curry: Right? Well, we got we got a ash in Texas. And she
she actually has a child who can't have beef or a whole bunch
of reasons metabolic disorder. PKU doesn't sound good. And she
says, Look, I've been on this journey for 17 years. You can
imagine my reaction to hearing this doctor statement. So she
says one ounce of steak, depending depending on the cat
or cut or fat level, on average, 8.7 grams of protein 43
calories. 315 milligrams of fair. What is fair, Ph. D?
What's Ph? D?
John C Dvorak: Not pH. E, Ph. D. We should know that no idea.
Adam Curry: One ounce of broccoli, point six grams of
protein 10 calories. So this is bull. Everyone's lying. It's so
crazy. I
John C Dvorak: know they lie and they lie on the air. And then
they are great journalists of this country, though. Okay.
Adam Curry: Sounds good. And then we talked to the guy said,
Who unless you're unless you're eating rocks. And then people
say that people sent me the sea, the sea, we should probably play
that clip again. Hold on, just to make sure we have that was
that rocks was this guy was Rubisco Rubisco?
Unknown: Was it this? Scientists describe Rubisco as nature's
most dominant carbon dioxide fixing enzyme, and are very
interested in its role in the global carbon cycle. But we've
got Sailesh Rao on the show to make this simpler enough for us
to understand hopefully, he's the executive director of
climate healers, a company that among many things, tries to help
people understand that we all have the resources we need to
solve each of our global problems. So it's a pleasure,
thank you for your time.
Thank you for having me.
Before we start, I just have to say your website climate. Org
describes in fascinating detail how you got involved in
environmentalism, starting with the seeing a documentary by Al
Gore. Just tell us a bit about Rubisco how beneficial it is and
can be
it is plant protein. And it is ubiquitous in the world. And to
me, it is a signal from nature saying protein is everywhere. So
do you eat plants, you're gonna get your protein because protein
is a building block of life. Unless we are eating rocks, we
are going to get enough protein in our diet. Okay,
Adam Curry: so he said unless you're eating rocks, and that
turns out the Chinese are eating rocks. This
Unknown: Chinese stir fry features rocks as the main
ingredients, and social media calls a quote, world's hardest
dish. People are supposed to suck off the flavors then spit
out the rocks, hence the dishes name so do meanings suck and
dispose. The dish originated in Hubei province, and is said to
date back hundreds of years. It was reportedly passed down for
generations by boatman through their oral history. Street
vendors cook the pebbles with spices, chili oil and garlic on
a sizzling grill. Each portion costs about 16 When which is
around $2.30 You
Adam Curry: have been around Have you ever seen this rock
dish? No. This is this must be some kind of programming. They
must be just programming our brains getting us some phony
nuts ready to eat rocks? And Rubisco rocks and Rubisco of my
Rubisco on the rocks please. Yummy. I don't know. I don't
know.
John C Dvorak: All right, well, let's see what else we get on
our list.
Adam Curry: I'll tell you what, why don't I thank you for your
courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the sea
in the collab players and gentlemen please say hello to my
friend on the other end the one and only Mr. John
John C Dvorak: curry in the morning all ships and see who's
on the ground feeding their subs in the water and all the days
and nights out there.
Adam Curry: And a big hearty in the morning to the trolls and
the troll room once well hold on a second we make sure we count
the prop joke out there the trolls 1890. Right That sounds
about right. You know I figured out what happened on Sunday
show. It was my mistake. I had not sent out the bat signal to
pod verse. You know, which you give me crap for that. I keep
saying pod verse because there must be a couple 100 people who
really rely on that bad signal. And that's why that's why it was
low. We were down by a couple 100 So that's what happened.
Yeah, yeah, more than Yes. 300 At least something like that. So
I apologize. I apologize, people like I didn't get a bad signal.
And this is why we have a newsletter. This is why we
remind people that there's a show coming up tomorrow because
people have busy lives. They got lots of podcasts to listen to.
Now, except, I guess not that Glenn Beck podcast. You hear
what happened there?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they still can't get to the bottom of it.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: I have is this clip here, just
Unknown: sitting here in my office, and we're discussing
something that we just saw. Here. This is from Apple, we
found an issue with your show the Glenn Beck program, which
must be resolved before it's available on Apple podcasts.
Your show has been removed from Apple podcast from the Apple
podcast team.
Adam Curry: Now, so he went on and on and on. And first of all,
I'm sitting there going like, Glenn, did you listen to what I
told you when I was on your show twice? That you need to tell
people not to use ditch the legacy app, which is Apple,
because there's, you know, over 65 apps and services that use
podcasts index.org, in his show was just fine. There. It's just
fine. So I'm a little irked about that. And then and he
wants everyone to petition people. Yes. Good tell upon to
put us back on. It's sad. It's really sad. I mean, we're not
even on Spotify, because we won't sign their contract, which
allows them to do whatever they want, including put advertising
in and around our show. You This is
John C Dvorak: people there is a fake no agenda done by some
kids.
Adam Curry: Is it? Is it this is our show, or is it their own
show? No, no.
John C Dvorak: It's their own show.
Adam Curry: I sue him.
John C Dvorak: Well, we would like to at least mentioned to
them to take the damn thing down. But there's they have no
email address. You can't track it down. Jay has been working
on. It's nobody knows who they are. Nobody listened to it. A
couple of kids.
Adam Curry: And it's called no agenda.
John C Dvorak: It's great. Yeah, no, no agenda.
Adam Curry: Anyway, this is a problem you won't run into if
you if you are in the troll room troll room.io where you can
always hang out and listen to the live show. But if you want
to make sure that all of your favorite podcasts, even if
they're thrown off of some of the big tech Silicon Valley
platforms, they will still continue. You go to podcast
apps.com. And with the live shows, you'll get a notification
if I remember to send it out. And then you can open up the app
that has all your existing podcasts in it's safe and secure
because they're not going to be thrown away. They won't be then
as you know Southern Poverty Law Center's after after podcasts
are dangerous. There's no no moderation. Well, Apple either
moderate, I heard it might have been a trademark issue,
John C Dvorak: which you guys will want that Variety magazine
did an article on it.
Adam Curry: And was it? What was the trademark issue? What
exactly was
John C Dvorak: nobody knows Glenn Beck said there was a
trade but he also admitted there was a trademark issue that's
been resolved, but it was months ago. And the actual trademark
issue was never brought up in the story. And Beck didn't say
it
Adam Curry: just seems volatile. You know, you just don't you
can't depend on these guys. That's why I started a podcast
index three years ago. You can't depend on it. They don't care.
And everybody thinks
John C Dvorak: no, they don't care. That's the real problem is
not that they're evil. Are they delicious? Generally they are.
But besides that they don't care about you don't care. That's the
main thing. They don't care. They don't care. And you see on
excess that's not like a profit center for them that they don't
care product. That's in fact, probably irksome to them that
they probably would rather not do it. Yeah,
Adam Curry: exactly. And then if you look at the comments on X,
formerly known as Twitter, you'll see stuff like that's
okay. We hate hate speech anyway. We don't need you on
Apple. To Who are we hate hate speech, Glenn Beck is the
furthest from a hate speech you can imagine. Anyway, get one of
those modern podcast apps that just doesn't happen you and you
don't miss your favorite no agenda show. And the way people
are these days is my ultimate point is you'll forget you're
like, oh, what days and you'll forget you won't get notified.
It won't show up. If you're using Apple podcasts. And you
don't know Gee, what happened to those no agenda guys. You're
going to miss out on.
John C Dvorak: Oh gosh, they quit?
Adam Curry: Well, but here's these new kids I found on
Spotify. They're kind of cool. I'll listen to them. Oh, man.
You can also follow us on no agenda social.com For as long as
that lasts. I think Signups are open again. In fact, I'm
John C Dvorak: quite sure good Brunetti on it.
Adam Curry: Dude. Did you see Burnette ease Gran Turismo
movie? That's that's that's it? Hit.
John C Dvorak: I think so I've only seen one negative review.
We got an a negative review is valid and I think Brunetti would
go for it. The negative review was that it was like a little
like Barbie in that it had way too many product placements.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: I heard the first half hour is basically all
product placement. Yes, Sony mostly, that's the only way you
can get a movie made these days I'm sure. Well,
John C Dvorak: Sony is one of the production companies. So you
know, they're gonna play their product in it as it is, Hey, you
want to do the movie or not?
Adam Curry: Ashlynn speed the official no agenda, racecar
driver. She went to see it. She loved it. She and her dad, Greg.
Two thumbs up one of the best movies ever made. I'm hearing
that a lot of people like it because it's, you know, it's
like a positive male role model. figure in this movie.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. All of male role models are positive. Yeah,
except for the one guy who worked for Nissan who's played
by Orlando Bloom. That guy who also initiated the whole thing
of getting these kids to train to be real racecar drivers.
Turns out as you watch him develop in the movie is just a
weasel. He's good. Blue plays a terrific weasel.
Adam Curry: Okay. Have you seen the movie?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I went to see it with Brunetti when he did
a preview and I talked about on the show.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's right. Oh, man. I want to go to a red
car. Well, there's no more red carpet.
John C Dvorak: There was no red carpet was just, you know, yeah,
it was the IMAX in the middle of nowhere outside of Sacramento.
Well, I look forward to the middle of nowhere. It's pretty
packed.
Adam Curry: Without it's cool, though, to do that without
promotion. That's that's not bad. That's not bad. Anyway, you
can follow us on origin to social.com. All right. Message
to Aaron or we need to get Brunetti save an account for
Brunetti. John wants him I thought he was already on.
John C Dvorak: He lost his password and did the same thing.
I did try to retrieve it. But none of the mechanisms work and
the
Adam Curry: mechanisms work fine. You just had the wrong
email. So long
John C Dvorak: gone. He's been kicked off, I'm sure by now.
Weiss.
Adam Curry: I'm telling you, I'm telling you that it works fine.
John C Dvorak: We'll give him a real easy password. Okay.
Adam Curry: All right. Come up with something for you can
follow Jhansi. Dvorak had no agenda social.com or adamant
nodes in the social.com. And I know that we're open. Again,
because I'm getting people saying, I don't I don't know the
answer to the question. Now know, you have to answer a
couple of no agenda related questions to see if you're
worthy of an account, which I think is pretty good.
John C Dvorak: What's ITM mean, stuff like that.
Adam Curry: I feel like I don't understand I don't have it
right, I got I've got I don't have the right answers. Well,
you'll have to figure that out. Now, this is a value for value
show. Which is why, you know, when, if people kick us off of
Apple, we don't really care, because we have all these other
great apps that you can listen to us in and we don't need the
the we won't have that immediate hit. Because you know, the whole
podcast industrial complex runs on downloads. And as long as
your app is still running, and it downloads the show, whether
you listen to it or not. That's how advertisers get duped into
paying money to advertise on these shows. And so the minute
that that stops, then you know, oops, there goes all your income
from from the app. Now we use the value for value system. We
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In fact, I think you said he's going for the win.
John C Dvorak: No, he wasn't fooling around. Yeah,
Adam Curry: that's exactly what it sounded like he was going for
the wind wasn't fooling around. What else did we did we look at?
I mean, we did really
John C Dvorak: anything huh
Adam Curry: yeah, we did I like well, it was It wasn't
competitive enough, but I kind of liked the man getting sucked
into a jet engine which I'm still hoping we'll be. We'll
have a we'll eventually see this happen somewhere. We did another
suicide by jet engine ingestion. We had what else was up here?
Pizza rocks, we had melons, rain bombs, whatever. There was
nothing we looked at. Yeah, I'm
John C Dvorak: saying nothing. It was just one thing and that
was it. I did use the rubber ducky from a couple of shows ago
for the newsletter, which is just a stunning piece. I can't
remember who did it Scaramanga or one of the guys it was that
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done by that is a Art Generator doing it as AI but it's just be
really Yeah, he really told the AI what to do and he did a good
job of it. Yeah, now
Adam Curry: we love it Sir Paul couture Thank you very much for
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you very much you guys deserve it. I survived the James true
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What is this? What is this? James true owl attack? Jame
Truus owl attack and little pants gang violence and the
gjort wars? Do you have any idea what that means?
John C Dvorak: I have no idea
Adam Curry: so I've locked up the bikes and committed myself
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John C Dvorak: there's definitely going to be the
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Adam Curry: Yes. I was looking for the I was looking at that
that we I was trying to spell that weird. That we are drink I
was having trouble with it. They always give me a biscuit on my
birthday.
John C Dvorak: You slaves can get you the mac and cheese.
Macaroni and cheese. melted together mac and
Unknown: cheese mac and cheese mac and cheese.
Adam Curry: And we have sir crystal ball in Dallas, Texas.
333 dot 33 We love that number. Well f if curry is doing a show
while on vacation. And WTF is my excuse for not donating? A lot
of people apparently didn't think
John C Dvorak: the same way you did. You're like the only guy.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: But we appreciate you. We really do. I haven't
heard a stay safe in a while so that would be good. Okay, well,
you see if I gotta stay safe for you. Yeah. Oh, that's
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That will be good to crystal ball the opportunity. Thank you
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John C Dvorak: Howard was with Sir Dave goes. Where do you go?
I don't know. Naples, Florida. He is the first Associate
Executive Producer to an $80.82 ITM and Jan's far beat for me to
succumb to peer pressure. But when Baron J be the original
hater. Oh, I'm sorry. Peter of my mouth over a decade ago.
Calls me to to task on show 1581 I must step up and defend my
honor. Plus, no agenda deserves any treasure they receive.
Thanks for all you do, fellas. To Dave goes and all your
friends at the metal spirits free booze for the round table.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: I love that T shirt. Sir Michael my article. I think
my article. Milton, Ontario cambia Tico. Maybe made a Tico
That'd be better. Milton, Ontario, Canada 236 25. We're
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Adam. Thank you for the best podcast in the universe. I
couldn't let my little brother Rob be the only executive
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This is my 50th birthday gift to myself. So can I get a birthday
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John C Dvorak: We have Ed Musial from Waterford, Michigan are two
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John and Adam. I started listening to no agenda a bit
over a year ago, it quickly became obvious that I'd be
listening enough that I should donate. In the time since that
first donation I have been on many many show binged basis
being binged. I've been used on many, many show every shows a
binge, I would recommend to new and seasoned listeners to
occasionally review old episodes, which we discourage as
it would happen. I just heard episode five we do. Well, I do.
But I think you're you're in agreement. As you know, is a lot
of reasons for it. I just listened to Episode 535. That's
going back Yeah, days before it was brought up a few shows ago.
That got me to think that I need to go back even further. Episode
150 became the new start point for the knee the next binge
stream in that episode 50 minutes into the show there was
mentioned of the vaccine push being woven into legislation.
Episode 151 One hour and 10 minutes in there was discussions
is a reason you we don't want people listening measles shows
there was discussion of what excuse would be generated
together DNA from us slaves with the perspective of having to
test for COVID to return to work and the test had to be in the
invasive invasive PCR test I wondered if that could have been
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Adam Curry: that's all right and we're happy to have you here.
Oh, you know I'm doing good work you know if you don't mind since
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I don't think that's our limit. Our limit is like 50
John C Dvorak: That's the Pay Pal limit.
Adam Curry: I think on mobile says I just love and respect my
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birthday is August 19. So we've seen the happiest birthday ever
to sir oh gee God caster Steve Webb. I think he may truthfully
he may truthfully be a baron but I'm not sure what's in the title
when you're my prince charming and hold the keys to my heart.
Everything else pales in comparison to the joy you bring
to me it's burning inside of her Steve, by truthfully could not
survive survive this world without you. I am blessed beyond
measure to have you to laugh with love with pray with and
share the good and bad in life. I love that we are still
learning new things about each other and daily growing closer
to God together. I've really enjoyed our 38 years of
courtship and had never had a fight. Could you give him
anything by Reverend owl? I pray God brings you a fabulous year
ahead. You deserve it. You deserve the best and I'm devoted
to you your lovely lady Leanne. Oh, isn't that just nice? Yes, I
think we should do well since you brought it up. Why don't we
do a little respect? Everybody can use some of that
Unknown: DSP ICT
Adam Curry: throw in a gratuitous go for him. You've
got now that wraps up our executive and Associate
Executive Producer as John said it's a little light all eight of
them. Yeah. So he's gonna take us through to the 50s and then
we'll get into our night things and go and our meetups etc.
John C Dvorak: We're going to start with Erie Kia i A Kia ragi
in Prague, Oklahoma. No and it's a switcheroo this for Brian.
Mickey Super Daddy for five gatos celebrate his birthday and
we got him on the list. Alberta Peter. urine. Ver Hi. You're
enduring you're
Adam Curry: a Netherlands. You're not urine.
John C Dvorak: urine. Urine urine. Sir, and he is 133 33
Dame Jennifer Northfield Massachusetts 122 dot 23
Switcheroo for Sir Paul of the command line.
Adam Curry: There you go.
John C Dvorak: It was a happy birthday. When did Dame Jennifer
moved to Northfield, Massachusetts.
Adam Curry: We have more Jennifer's
John C Dvorak: Oh as we do we have a lot of Jennifer's this is
true. Deborah mascus in Winnipeg, California 133 30 And
she sent a note a Cardian That was cute. I want to at least
bring it up because she she clipped off a nice 45 cent
Canadian stamp that she says to replace the Australian stamp you
accidentally ruined you're the only person I know that would
love this stamp and she says his crazy stamp candidates like
people wrestling or something against the background of a of a
red moon and again a maple leaf
Adam Curry: guy didn't resign and I didn't get the stamp on I
got the note
John C Dvorak: more than okay well anyways thanks for give us
an island of calm in the sea of insanity she writes that you go
sir foam finger number one is backwards from Louisville
Kentucky honor $11.11 Lucas Williams Roswell, New Mexico 100
bucks. Sir Paul in Twickenham, Middlesex UK 99. And he's got a
birthday call for himself. Kevin McLaughlin is up next from
Concord, North Carolina with the boob donation of 808. And he is
promoting today. Banana melons. That's banana melons, but that's
your mode. There you go. Alan graves in milkers, Minnesota Oh
808 Now there you go. Good name for a town for the 808 donation.
Kevin McLaughlin is back already for 606 and here he is promoting
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you've been de deuced Andrew Edwards in Niceville, Florida
Niceville with 5678 and as a birthday call out, Adam Wayne
and Copperas Cove. Kapoor is Cove, Texas. This is another
birthday shout out to defy 55 for the smokin hot dame of the
absurd. James Edmondson South Plainfield, New Jersey 5510.
Edward Richard butter in London, UK 5510 Christina Hines and
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5069 You missed my donation from last Thursday. I'm still
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agenda show it's an accessory it's something that just has to
be a part of your daily life your monthly life you need to
attend a no agenda meetup at least once and once you go it's
like potato chips you cannot stop you will want to go over
and over again. As is witnessed by the 2023 central Texas float
meet up once again. Lots of people came floated and met up
Unknown: in the morning get my nation doing it and post Adam we
missed you and Tina we will definitely be looking forward to
our next meetup to see your shining happy faces is
it running from local fire as well Sandra that we were rolling
on the river or Eric from Dallas,
Texas. In the morning. Thank
you to producer Eric who woke up on time because he didn't go to
sleep. This
is Psalms kipi with a Y coming to you from a no agenda meet up
in the evening y'all and in the morning. Taylor
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in the morning. This is Cynthia in San Marcos.
Greg here from Greta
Adam Curry: in the morning everybody here at the no agenda
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Unknown: Marcos at the rail yard is a sarcastic mass from Dallas.
I'm so glad I floated on down to the rail yard trains good plains
bad
in the morning. This is Sarah Shona and coming down from Fort
Worth to go on the river. Hey, it's
Adam Curry: Baronet is Mary Brett here. I didn't get to go
on the flow. But I came here to meet everybody. Thanks for your
courage. Chris
Unknown: from Mulago farm had the best meet up on the river
today Scott was the leader and I was the tail
Adam Curry: Yes, exactly. The slogan connection is protection.
And if you want to connect to be to get some protect, you can
still head off to the Mile High meet up at the Denver Museum of
Nature and Science. They'll be meeting today at 630 Charlotte's
Thursday, Third Thursday, seven o'clock tonight and you can have
your pee checked by by the bio people in Charlotte, North
Carolina at Ed's tavern. On Saturday. The skeptical weirdos
of Maui will get together at 11 o'clock Hawaii time at LUNA poco
beach park that's in West Maui and the sea the park is selected
in West Maui near the fire zone not sure if the event is on.
Maybe check uh, no agenda meetup.com Just to make sure
that everything's copacetic with that. Also on Saturday in the
morning, Richmond noon, 1230 at Strangeways brewing in Richmond,
Virginia. The lowlands meet up. That will be oh, this is the
Netherlands. Oh, it's a big festival, the lowlands and the
no agenda slaves will be meeting up at the alpha stage. That's in
bidding housing in flavor along the Netherlands at 1230
Greenwich Mean Time, just to make it more complicated. Check
no agenda meetups.com to make sure that will be cool though,
because the lowlands is like a big multi day festival. Also on
Saturday, the Fort Worth monthly the one o'clock it flips Patio
Grill fort with Fort Worth, Texas. The OKC oh yeah Hui
Southside one o'clock at the garage. I 240 in Oklahoma City,
Oklahoma. Also on Saturday. It's like a pool party and Rhode
Island 130 location by RSVP only the home of Lady butters in
Rhode Island and you might want to RSVP for that one. The
shrunken Eleague amygdala support group meets at two
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and the South Carolina MidState. Where are you meet up at 330 in
bar Figaro in Newberry, South Carolina. Flight of the no
agenda meetup number 43 trains good plains bad 333 home bound
brew house in Los Angeles, California. Leo Bravo of course
hosting that Spot the spook as well on Saturday five o'clock,
the West End grill in Huntsville, Alabama. The Super
uPAR monthly bash 5pm Jack Pine lodge in Manistee, Michigan. And
the last one on the list is Sunday the 20th that will be the
don't draw me Santa Fe meetup. Oh of course with the suggest
tow picture Jeff towing hosting, and that is at the Second Street
Brewery in Santa Fe in New Mexico. And I believe I have a
promo here.
Unknown: Ready the shrink wrap your amygdala on Saturday,
August 26. In Safety Harbor, Florida, free speech will flow
from three to 6pm at giggle waters Social Club hosted by the
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douchebags are encouraged to RSVP today at no agenda
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Adam Curry: No no agenda meetups connection is protection go to
no agenda meetups.com to find out when one is going to be held
near you. If you can't find one near you. Start one yourself.
It's easy and always guaranteed apart nice and
Unknown: nice day. Won't be able to be everybody feels the same.
Adam Curry: It's like what are you yammering about? Hello? Oh,
did I lose? You? know I'm here. Oh, okay. That was weird. You
John C Dvorak: went dead. I went dead. And then you deal with
somebody yammering.
Adam Curry: Hold on a second. I don't know. Did I go dead? Did I
go did that I thought I heard you yammering in the background.
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't know what you're hearing, but it
wasn't me. Oh, well. There's
Adam Curry: something else. Okay. It's hard to tell.
Whenever I hear something yammering. I presume it's you.
John C Dvorak: I think that's a reasonable presumption. But no,
Adam Curry: no, not this talk. I have a question. Let's talk
about Maui for a second. Firstly, do ISOs No, I'm sorry.
You're right. Do I Do I Do even I do have ISOs I think I got a
lot of ISOs.
John C Dvorak: Paul, I do want to tell you about Maui. Yeah,
because the new the new book.
Adam Curry: What are your ISOs?
John C Dvorak: What are yours? Okay,
Adam Curry: I'll go first. I have this 100% lately. Okay. I
have this one. It was a pleasure eating bugs with you. Okay.
John C Dvorak: That was a part. That is incredibly good news.
Adam Curry: Okay. And I have thank you for talking. Yeah, I
thought that was a good one. beat that.
John C Dvorak: Well enough. I can no matter strappy but I do
have three. Okay. Let's start with the reasons. Reasons
Unknown: for those reasons were out.
John C Dvorak: From Shark Tank. No, actually, it was from a
podcast. Oh, really? This one get a job. Okay. Okay, then move
on. Move on. No, I
Adam Curry: don't think you can beat my my hair which I think
this one. Thank you for talking. I think that's just too good.
That's not the other one was better.
Unknown: Okay, this one. That is incredibly good news.
Adam Curry: That one, our whole show is incredibly good nose.
All right. Yeah. You want to talk about the book. This book
is bullsh bullcrap,
John C Dvorak: obviously is bullshit. I got a note from one
of our producers is a book writer.
Adam Curry: Got it. Let me just let me just set this up. So a
book shows up on Amazon. And I have it here and the call
John C Dvorak: I had right here fire and fury, the story of the
2023 Maui fire and its implications for climate change.
And
Adam Curry: I just point out one glaring thing that no one has
really mentioned. It's 44 pages.
John C Dvorak: Yes, it's a it is a Kindle book.
Adam Curry: It's a giblet it's not it's it's a blog post. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: it probably is. But this guy's irked about
producer Paul says I've written 20 books and ever had one
written edited bound in one day before the event covered ended
the fire was still going with his book comes out Yeah, that
was but it is it is a Kindle book. It's not really bound.
Okay,
Adam Curry: well you wouldn't expect that but the but what I
think what's so interesting about this event, but first of
all, it's a horrific event. It's much worse than than then we
know it is. That I think is really really really bad. But
there's they threw in this conspiracy stuff so quickly.
That It's really removed the entire focus on on the blame.
You know, it's like, oh, the directed energy weapons and no,
come on. It was so this is it's so obvious once you take a look
at it that yes, no one really minded that this burned down
because they've been I think they've been looking at this
beautiful Maori landscape for a long time but they throw in all
this directed energy weapons stuff just to, you know to call
everybody does
John C Dvorak: because Republicans are stupid Oh,
that's just too much it's more of the same you know to make the
Republicans look like but it's all Republicans obviously no no
Democrat would ever think such a thing oh let's claim that it's
okay, that's my guess here's my Maui update.
Unknown: And next The death toll from the Maui wildfires climbs
to 106 and the Biden administration and now promising
a full reimbursement for some emergency work
that he has approved the governor's request for 100%
reimbursement for the emergency work that's being done for a
period of 30 days within the first 120 days at the governor's
choosing.
It's been a week since the wildfire began in Maui. The
blaze traveled from grasslands all the way into popular tourist
destination behind 2200 buildings burned down in a
matter of hours, and the scale of the damage is becoming
clearer as search and rescue continues to rebuild Lahaina
FEMA said that the estimated cost could total up to $5.5
billion. What are conditions like there now? A highway into
line are reopened at 6am. local time today, allowing residents
and first responders back in for the first time communication
remains difficult, as much of the electricity is still off.
Although power companies set its back for about 80% of the
island. A small aircraft flew along the coast using
loudspeaker to tell people where to get water and supplies. But
folks on the island are questioning the state's
emergency notification system. Siren stationed around the
island never sounded. Okay.
Adam Curry: So I will pick it up there. I've done I've had a lot
of time to look at this. And the Maori chief did a little chat.
This is very, very interesting people. There's a lot. Okay, let
me step back for one second. There's a lot of Hawaiian being
spoken. And to me, a lot of it is virtue signaling and I'm a
little sick of it. You know, it's all like where's your
Aloha? Where's your where's your Malacca? Maka? locka? And
everyone's everyone who does that? I don't understand
Hawaiian. And everyone's doing this. And by the way, where's
Where's Tulsi Gabbard? Haven't heard from her. She hasn't come
out and said anything yet. But of course interesting. Obama
comes out. Oh, so he lived I'm sorry. Obama comes out. I just
slipped there. So Obama comes cute. Yeah. And now he
apparently lives in Hawaii growing up. And he does a whole
bunch of this stuff. Hello. Hi, everybody.
Unknown: Like so many people around the world. Michelle and I
have been absolutely heartbroken by the devastating images coming
out of Maui and Lahaina over the last week. As someone who grew
up in Hawaii, is someone who has taken my family to enjoy that
incredible beauty of that island and the hospitality of the
people in liner. We now find ourselves mourning the lives
that are lost in our thoughts and prayers go out to the
families that have lost so much. The thing about it is though
thoughts and prayers in the moment like this are not enough.
Yeah, we have to step up. And we have to have to help the hyena
rebuilt. And the good news is is that the white Red Cross and
Malama Maui are mobilizing
Adam Curry: what's Mallanna Maui. Have you heard of Mallanna
Maui. So this was such a crappy video horrible sound. He looks
like crap. And then he's mentioning these native Hawaiian
Red Cross. Okay, but he's mentioned Mallanna how Mawi I've
never heard of this. There's no lower third nothing to
Unknown: provide direct support to people who have no idea who
are desperately
John C Dvorak: sounds like a hotel.
Unknown: To do everything you can to generously support the
Malala. Malia for mulawa. Maui is all of us. The Ohana pulled
together, using Hawaiian words do as much as we can Mahana to
give back to an island and a town and people who have given
us so much. I'm absolutely confident that Lahaina and Maui
and those families are going to be able to rebuild. But we've
got to be a part of that. So please, provide generous support
To the wire Red Cross and to Malama mouth right now. Mahalo.
Adam Curry: Okay. So now we get the Maui chief, you'll hear some
more of this Aloha business, the Maui chief who did not sound the
alarm. He does not agree.
John C Dvorak: Can I just throw a weird thing? And did you know
that the police chief for Maui was the same police chief that
was in Las Vegas during that shooting thing from the hotel?
Yes,
Adam Curry: I do know that. That's, you know, and so what
you what you need to say after that, John is coincidence? I
think not. That's, I mean, yeah, he was there in 2017. I think
yeah, I'm just saying I just thought that was, I know, I
know. But this is a real disaster. And I'm the first guy
to say directed energy weapon if it's true. I'm the first guy to
come out with any conspiracy theory. It's true. Yeah. Oh,
yeah. Well, this directed energy weapons are real. This is this
is not this case. This was this is very, very clearly caused by
power lines. Tonight,
Unknown: search teams in LA hyena continue their
Heartbreaking Work already more than 100 bodies found, and
they're still looking for the last what was once a paradise is
now a mass grave. While the cause of the blaze is still
being investigated. There's increasing scrutiny on Hawaiian
Electric data from whisker labs, a private company that monitors
the grid through a network of sensors shows 34 major
electrical incidents on the power lines around the highnam,
literally
dozens and dozens of faults occurring over that several hour
period overnight, any one of which could cause a arc fault
that would cause and sparked a wildfire.
Hawaiian Electric didn't specifically address that data
or the multiple lawsuits but said in part, we know there is
speculation about what started the fire. But the cause is
hasn't been determined. This
was a preventable circumstance. Grim
lips Smith is one of the attorneys who filed suit against
the utility, the
altra hazardous activity was keeping the power running during
this very serious wind event.
But Hawaiian Electric CEO told me they don't have a program for
shutting off power, it can
be seen as creating a hardship for those customers that have
medical needs in Lahaina, the electricity powers, the pumps
that provide the water. And so that was also a critical me
during that time
shutting off the power wasn't an option and just understand what
you're saying.
There are choices that need to be made. And all of those
factors play into it.
Adam Curry: I think that's a pretty good report, even though
it's from NBC. It seemed that seems reasonable to me. And we
have a lot of producers who have been made emailing me boots on
the ground, a lot of a lot of producers. So this is why I'm
just not going to go into all the conspiracy stuff and you can
stop emailing me about it. And but there was more. This was
complete mismanagement, complete stupidity, including the entire
Emergency Management Agency. Tonight
Unknown: we're learning shocking new details that reveal Maui
residents aren't just dealing with a monumental natural
disaster, but also a disastrous response. CDs News has learned
that Maui's emergency operations chief had no disaster
experience. Well, why does that matter? Because it's his
department that's responsible for setting off the warning
sirens. For the first time since the early hours of the tragedy,
the main Lahaina road is now open, allowing residents to see
what's left. There are now at least 40 cadaver dogs helping
with the search going block after block of burned out homes
and cars, looking for the hundreds of people that are
still unaccounted for the White House announcing today that the
President and First Lady will travel to Maui on Monday to
survey the destruction and meet with first responders and
survivors. By
Adam Curry: the way, I'd like to point out that one of the
senators of Hawaii is that moron Mazie Hirono. So no wonder the
state's a mess. And so now we get to the Maui chief, and he's
going to explain why there was no siren that went off. Now
apparently they had cell phone warnings, but that came very,
very late in the game, but he does not regret it. Do you
regret not
Unknown: sounding the sirens? I do not. And the reason why and
so many people said they could have been saved if they have
John C Dvorak: this is the fire chief or the chief of the
emergency response chief of the
Adam Curry: emergency response. Okay, gone off. They wouldn't
have known that there was he was in charge of the in charge of
the the sirens
John C Dvorak: fine. Yeah. And the report said he has zero
experience in his air arena. Correct. And as we
Unknown: know, so many bodies were found in the ground. Do
Adam Curry: you want him to give you the answer? This is some
dude who steps in Who is not in uniform steps out from behind
the chief and says, Hey, you want him to get the answer you
want to give you? Just numbering Mahalo. Have
John C Dvorak: you ever that's Governor Josh Green? Is
Adam Curry: that green? That guy's Yeah, Dick, he's in the
ground. Do you want him to give you the answer? Let him finish
his answer. All right. There's a lot of people you're talking if
you want to talk come up here. Ready for the answer? When we
Unknown: syringes I had mentioned earlier, is used
primarily for tsunamis and that's the reason why many of
them are found almost all of them are found on the coastline.
The public is trained to seek higher ground in the event that
the sermon is surrounded in fact, on the website of the
Hawaii Emergency Management Agency. The following guideline
is provided. If you are in a low lying area near the coastline,
evacuate to high grounds, and then vertically to the fourth
floor and higher of a concrete building alerts we also come in
the form of a wireless emergency alert. Have you sorted the siren
that night? We're afraid that people would have gotten Malka
Malka, and if that was the case, then they would have gone into
the fire. And so that is the reason why.
Adam Curry: So what he's saying mulk, I guess you saying is that
when people hear the siren, then they immediately run for higher
ground because that means it's tsunami and they only use it for
tsunami by the way, you're gonna get some other official stepping
in and telling everybody that better show some Aloha,
Unknown: our protocol has been WA and EAS by the way, I should
also know that there are no sirens Mocha, or on the mountain
side where the fire was spreading down. So why not? The
Sun would not have saved those people under the mountain side
Smolka
going into another friendly reminder that we encourage aloha
and kindness again, we appreciate the questions. But I
would encourage all of us to operate under the values of
aloha and kindness. So as you're asking the question, please
respect the speaker who is responding and give them that
space just as they're giving you the space for you to ask your
question.
Adam Curry: Please show some Aloha kindness. Now. I don't
understand something here. He's saying the sirens that means
that you know that's only for tsunamis and we'd like giving
the emergency alerts. Well, I wasn't born yesterday and I've
been doing the show for a while. And I remember that Hawaii had
you sirens for something completely different that was
not tsunami related. They've got giant giant voice systems
Unknown: it's the sound of peril in paradise. Today for the first
time since the Cold War era,
a nuclear attack warning system is active in Hawai Vern Miyagi
these teams are the triggers the
alarm situation with North Korea and all the things that we've
been seeing over the past
Adam Curry: I don't have to play the whole report, but they set
up a whole system and they had that was backed up by the alerts
you remember that one was triggered accidentally people
were freaking out they all went to shelters,
John C Dvorak: companies that were saying, this is bullcrap
this
Adam Curry: not sounding the alarm, saying it's only for
tsunami doesn't make sense. I may be wrong doesn't make sense
to me. Now to this governor green. Now what what if the idea
was hey, you know if that thing ever burns down one day, and it
burns every single year because of poor management after the the
plantations were removed, and they never say,
John C Dvorak: sugar cane crops removed that fire controlled
birds were stopped.
Adam Curry: Same thing, the poor management of the forest and
Paradise, exactly the same type of horrific results. So not with
just one just not doing that. If the idea was to do that, you
know, once it burns, a little brown, you know, and then we're
going to take care, we're going to take over that land, and
we'll sell it off. I think Governor green actually admits
that in this clip, I'm already
Unknown: thinking about wait for the state to acquire that land,
so that we can put it into workforce housing to put it back
into families, or to make it open spaces in perpetuity as a
memorial to people who were lost. We want this to be
something that we remember, after the pain passes, as a
magic slaves, and Johanna will rebuild. The tragedy right now
is the loss of life. The buildings can be rebuilt over
time, even the banyan tree may survive. But we don't want this
to be a clear space where then yes, people from overseas just
come and decide they're going to take it stable, they can
preserve it first.
Adam Curry: So I think that that's what's going to happen
the state will take over the land because the insurance
companies are not going to pay out. Maui fires come in a moment
of turmoil for the insurance industry. The Hawaii had the
nation's lowest rate for homeowners coverage because
they're not suffered many natural disasters. And a lot of
the buildings are not up to code. We're not going to cover
you. So, no, we're not going to take care of you. These poor
people. They're really getting screwed. They are really getting
screwed. Screwed, big time. And then and then Oprah who, who's,
who's placed didn't burn for whatever reason. I'm sure it's
because she's Illuminati. She goes to one of the shelters with
a CBS camera she goes over the whole let me go get some great
footage for Gail. Luckily they they said no,
John C Dvorak: no. Yeah, they put the kibosh on the camera.
You can't
Adam Curry: have the camera and that that just clinches it for
me. So then we'll probably never know exactly well, and
John C Dvorak: she put her as you know, she ended up being
filmed by somebody with a candidate with a phone of
course. It's like yeah, it was this was a publicity stunt was
shameless.
Adam Curry: It really is. Don't think Yeah, it's really bad. So
I feel very bad very badly for these people. And I'll send them
all the Aloha Malama locka, locka, ha, whatever. I don't
speak the language. But man, God bless you people. Have mercy on
you. And the local reports I'm getting from people is very,
very bad. Well,
John C Dvorak: they roasted him now they can build some cool
stuff. Yeah. So
Adam Curry: it's just sad. While we're on the topic of roasting,
while we're on the topic of roasting, Apple apparently was
roasting people. They rousted people with that to remember the
that they purposely made their iPhones underperform when they
got older.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, of course they did. That was smart. The
smart thing to do. Yeah, and they got
Unknown: off cheap. Apple is telling eligible iPhone users.
Their checks are in the mail. The company says it will pay up
to $500 million to settle the so called battery gate class action
lawsuit about six years ago, users began accusing Apple of
deliberately slowing down older iPhones with aging batteries,
payments will amount to about 65 bucks per person.
John C Dvorak: 65 bucks. Who cares?
Adam Curry: I don't know. Yeah, no, I was gonna do one more big
tech story. What? Which one? This is the company that got
hired originally in Ohio. Or Kentucky, Kentucky. Yes. To use
AI. You know, the AI, the AI stuff all the great AI to manage
the city's school bus routes this
Unknown: morning. No school again today for Jefferson
County, Kentucky public schools after this week's school bus
meltdown.
I feel like we were lucky. We were lucky that she was three
hours late.
Parents like Aaron Henson waiting hour after hour for
their child to be bussed home after school, the latest arrival
time incredibly, just before 10pm kindergarteners
were going to the bathroom on the bus because they were there
for so long. They there were kids sitting in cafeterias until
well, after 730. My shot
did not get home until eight o'clock. She got home at eight
o'clock because I had to go to the bus depot. So pick her up as
well. The
problem last school year, the district made major changes to
its transportation plan citing bus driver shortages and other
staff vacancies, spending $200,000 on a firm that cut
routes and stops. But to some parents, the changes seem to
have made things worse.
Adam Curry: So in this whole report, they don't mention Alpha
route. Who again, here's another company touting its connections
to MIT, just like that sewage, wastewater lady. And they said
their mathematical models and machine learning technology is a
way to save money. Smooth. I
John C Dvorak: listened to longer versions of this report,
you hear stuff like I didn't
Adam Curry: I have another minute of this if you want to
hear it. Oh, yeah,
John C Dvorak: the thing I'm looking for is the is the point
where they show that plan to the bus drivers and they all say
this is not doable.
Adam Curry: Let me see if
Unknown: it's in here. There are bus drivers that are crying as
they come in and they're leaving, apologizing, and I
don't believe it's their fault.
Superintendent Marty polio releasing a statement announcing
schools will be closed till Monday we have to be better at
what we are doing. And once again, I'll say this that lies
squarely on my shoulders and my team shoulders. It is not on bus
drivers. It's not on the school. It's on me and my team. And we
are going to fix these parents is the superintendents
transportation plan Flat Out field
is project management. Like if it says this is your project,
this is your job. This is what you get paid to do. And if it's
anyone I feel like you fell in love about a little bit, a
little bus
drivers in the Louisville area are spending the canceled school
days practicing routes and making changes. But parents are
worried Monday will be another dismal day for students drop
offs. Adam
Adam Curry: and John will listen to episode 1581, you asked a
question about what fortune 500 company would be using AI for
Well, I'm a team manager in customer service, one of the 10
biggest banks in the US. I'm a recent roundtable meeting, the
topic of AI was discussed to let us know the company is looking
into implementing AI into our customer service knowledge base,
which houses all of our processes and procedures. These
procedures are to be searched for and used by the frontline
staff during each customer interaction to ensure any and
all disclosures and all steps are followed to address any
customer concerns. The thought is AI will help reduce human
error. And in locating the correct process or procedure,
they'll I don't know which bank this is, but they're doomed. And
I got a note from one of our producers who works at IBM. It's
so bad there that now they're new because they still have
Watson now they have Watson X and they're doing in house
hackathons. Hey, guys, see if you can come up with any cool
products that we can use. And I was like, this shit doesn't
work. I can't do anything. There's nothing of any
interesting importance that their kid that they can create
with this.
John C Dvorak: I got it. I got a story. Oh good. Driverless cars
in San Francisco. Here we go.
Unknown: The Utilities Commission in California has
voted to allow driverless car companies act like taxis in San
Francisco. But as NPR is derocher reports, they've faced
resistance from emergency responders.
The San Francisco police and fire departments have been vocal
about their opposition to driverless cars. They say the
vehicles have impeded first responders operations, running
through yellow emergency tape and blocking firehouse
driveways. Here's San Francisco Fire Chief Janine Nicholson
or foe cannot be paying attention to an autonomous
vehicle. When we've got ladders to throw
Nicholson has been urging California's transportation
regulator to halt the growth of driverless vehicle programs in
the city. But in a three to one vote regulators decided to allow
their programs to expand now autonomous vehicles run by crews
and way mo can pick up passengers and charge a fare
just like a taxi
Adam Curry: This is so dumb. It really there's nothing that it
just doesn't work. Computers can use
John C Dvorak: letter photos or one tool Oh hold on
Unknown: no agenda AI can do anything these guys can't
Adam Curry: Well that's true. No agenda does have the best AI
that's true.
John C Dvorak: The return of Zippy so I have
Adam Curry: a zip is gonna is our AI and zip is just gonna
come in and start telling us what's going on. It was
John C Dvorak: a Behringer Can you say get everything wrong?
Adam Curry: Can you say d w that's what burned Maui man.
See, Zippy knows. Yes.
John C Dvorak: So there's this weird story about in this time
covered by many people. But an add on. It's funny story. I
don't know why they're not covering it. But I think I got
this from NTD. This is the tale of the year the guy the American
soldier that goes to the North Koreans. Yeah, I
Adam Curry: do have one before we do the NTD report. Let's do
the I have I have this. I have this. I have this. NBC Lester
Holt. It's short. It's 23 seconds. For
Unknown: the first time tonight. There's word from North Korea
about that US soldier who bolted last month. North Korea state
media says private Travis King confessed to crossing into the
north because of quote inhuman maltreatment and racial
discrimination against the US Army or within the US Army. The
Pentagon says it can't verify the alleged comments and remains
focused on King safe return. This is in di D here we go.
John C Dvorak: North Korea I'm sorry. I was just gonna say it's
a little more elaborate.
Adam Curry: No doubt.
Unknown: North Korea has broken its silence on a crucial matter.
The nation has confirmed detaining the US soldier who
recently crossed the border into North Korea and Tunis. Jason
Perry has the latest.
On Wednesday, North Korea officially confirmed it has
detained the US soldier who ran across the border. Witnesses say
the soldier sprinted across the border while on a private tour
of the demilitarized zone. The newly released statement by
North Korean state media says Travis King a private second
call As the US Army illegally intruded into the territory of
North Korea. It added that during an investigation King
confessed that he decided to go to North Korea because he quote,
harbored ill feelings against inhumane maltreatment and racial
discrimination within the US Army. The statement also said
that Travis wanted to seek refuge in North Korea or another
country, there was no immediate verification that Travis
actually made these statements. But his uncle said previously on
ABC, that King had said something similar and that he
appeared to change after getting into a fight and going to jail.
The messages became strange. I was like you, okay? And he sees
telling me no, they're trying to kill me. And he said things
like, said the racist, and it made me seem like something
something was going on with him. Like he was fearing for his
life. And his
mom said prior to King crossing the border that she got a
strange call from him in the middle of the night,
and I was half asleep and he just called me to scream. I'm
not the Army soldier you want me to be I'm not the Army soldier
you want me to be and he kept screaming that out loud. And
then all of a sudden the phone hung up and then they're taken
him to the hospital. And
kings grandfather previously said this on AP
thinks I'm wrong when
he thinking clearly I don't think he would get ran out.
Loud like to see him come back.
Adam Curry: Whoa, this is much, much more in depth. How come
we're not getting this year?
John C Dvorak: They don't want to push this sort of maybe
hasn't been run to North Korea because it's very embarrassing.
Wow. Why would anyone want to go to North Korea when you can have
all this free stuff is part two of the clip. On
Unknown: Wednesday, State Department Deputy Spokesperson
Vidin Patel was asked about North Korea's recent statement
on private king what
what I can say is that we cannot verify the comments attributed
to private King. What I will say is though that we remain focused
on his safe return. And our priority is to bring private
King home and we are working through all available channels
to achieve that outcome.
But so added that since King crossed the border North Korea
has not responded to any messages from the State
Department. A spokesperson for king's family Jonathan Franks
recently posted a message on X on behalf of the family says
King's mother is worried about her son and she would be
grateful for a phone call from him
John C Dvorak: I think that this is a good story. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I can't get used to people saying x though is still
weird.
John C Dvorak: Very very lonely. I don't see it is a very Witter.
Adam Curry: Okay, there's a couple other things in the news
that we that are interesting. This I got I think this is from
France. 24 not hearing a lot about this guy but the leading
apparently the leading candidate for Argentina's presidency is an
interesting guy is a right winger I think, well he's beyond
that he they call him the wig. This guy is crazy oils and
Unknown: hugs for a political outsider who's just lit up
Argentina's Election Race, have you Millay laps up the applause
knowing that he is now one of the favourites to rule the
country. They call him leper Luca or the wig for his wild
hair. Rock anthems always provide the soundtrack to his
rallies. The former singer of a Rolling Stones tribute band, an
economics professor promises radical change in a country
where two political forces have ruled for decades, people are
sick of the cost of living crisis nine barback
Amala doesn't matter whether it is good or bad manners, enough
for the fallacy of discussing form. Let's discuss contents the
contents that you don't want, and that we have plenty of. I
therefore invite Argentinians to join the liberal revolution that
will make Argentina a world power again in such five years.
The so called Middle Eastern supporters of Millay say he's
offering something completely different. He's flattered to be
called an Argentinian Donald Trump or Jair Bolsonaro. Critics
say his credentials are straight from anti establishment central
casting. A longtime political chat show guest draws a crowd
wherever he goes. He opposes abortion denies the existence of
global warming and cause Argentina attacks help pledging
a rapid reduction in government spending and changing the
currency to the dollar. Elections are two months away
the primaries reflects the anger of the political system. The
current president Alberto Fernandez is standing down
blamed for the failure to tackle the economic crisis and
spiraling inflation. Many Argentinians prepared to gamble
on the unpredictable disillusioned by the tried and
tested Yeah,
Adam Curry: this guy's interesting. He's also a Bitcoin
or makes him even funnier. He looks a little like Trump and
like Trump and Elvis kind of mixed sideburns and everything
it's it i like it it's very interesting who
John C Dvorak: is definitely going to provide entertainment
update
Adam Curry: I have some it's in the show notes people can take a
look at it appears that a lot of small arms so and with that it's
also a thing as ak 47 etc that are blanketing the belt of
Africa are coming from Libya which is another tell in my book
John C Dvorak: well to make that tell even more interesting play
my Libya advanced warning clip
Adam Curry: where is it? Okay
Unknown: got it. After two days of heavy fighting some semblance
of comms returned to the Libyan capitol, security forces are
patrolling the streets of Tripoli. Local media report that
rival militias began exchanging gunfire Monday. The violence
that claimed at least 45 lives in the Libyan Capitol this week,
underscores the power struggle that's grown since the late
dictator Muammar Qaddafi was overthrown and later killed more
than a decade ago
Adam Curry: now, weren't we shipping arms to Libya? Wasn't
that part of the whole problem? Wasn't that part of what Hillary
Clinton was doing? And our ambassador got killed? Weren't
these arms going to Libya? But
John C Dvorak: I'm not sure where she was shipping arms but
probably he. We came he left we died you know kind of thing.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's yeah, he we came he saw he died. That
one.
John C Dvorak: We came we saw he Yeah, that's what I
Adam Curry: mean. I don't know. But this this stinks. All this
stinks. It's totally
John C Dvorak: safe. I do have a Nigerian report. But but that's
desperate for the next year. I think we're running out.
Adam Curry: Right. But I want to do want yeah, we are just want
to do one more thing on. I want to do one more thing on Ukraine.
Because there is some there is some movement, there is some
development. And the first one is, have you seen this crazy
spokes hold for Ukraine now? The American transgender they are
that one Sarah and Sarah Ashton Cirilo quickie from Sarah. Do
you know
Unknown: the difference between us and them? Besides fighting
under this flag and for freedom? On behalf of the people of
Ukraine? All the Russians are fighting for tyranny and
dictatorship? It's pretty simple. Where are you men? And
those guys most definitely aren't slow crane.
Adam Curry: We're human and those guys definitely aren't.
John C Dvorak: Where did you hear that one where he talked
calls Putin a vampire? Oh, no, I didn't get that one. That's
that's the better 100 You can see that he's got two blood
coming out of the corner of his mouth and he you know, is no,
yes. This is something's phony about this guy. What is Unbeliev
any of it that he's a spokesperson for anyone? And
Adam Curry: I'm not sure what there's weird stuff going on.
And then this I'd say is is kind of the is kind of the thing that
we need to be looking at this, this cargo ship. Here we go. So,
you know, cargo ships have not been able to leave the port. And
we kind of been thinking that this is you know, because arms
are on the ships, but this is still under the Green Deal. Oh,
we've got a we got to get some chips off because people can't
eat they need cereals and grain and then this report comes out a
manual let's start off with this cargo ship in the Black Sea.
What's the latest there?
Unknown: Well, this is the first Congress shipped to the party
Ukrainian the port the port of Odessa since last week's
Ukraine's announcement that it would open a temporary corridor
in the Black Sea in a bid to unblock the situation to send
some of those ships willing to sell with cargo on board to
other ports and this ship this ship has left a port of Odessa
this morning with a 30,000 tons of goods have also cereals
Ukrainian cereals, it was blocked in Odessa port for 17
months. It has it bears a flag from Hong Kong. And as you
mentioned, it is sailing now in the Black Sea and that remains
to be seen like which response Russia will keep knowing that.
Yesterday it stops it halted a ship that was sailing towards
Ukraine because Moscow warned that any ship outgoing or
incoming from Ukrainian ports might be considered a threat
then this comes nearly a month after Russia decided not renew
the Black Sea agreement on serials and nearly a month after
Russia started to heavily shell Ukrainian fort infrastructures
in the south of their country. The latest of this attack
happening last night with at least 13 drones sent against
port infrastructures and damaging grain depots in Eleni
and East mileposts in the south of Ukraine. Alright,
Adam Curry: this being Thursday we don't have a recent update so
we don't know exactly if Russia has stopped this ship the
shipment or not? If they don't I think that must mean something
good. Maybe there is some some deal underway. If they do I
mean, the you heard it's all these tonnage of goods but not
necessarily. Grain just some cereal could be all kinds of
stuff and it's under a Hong Kong flag. So this is weird. Yeah.
Okay, that's the best response I can get. Okay,
John C Dvorak: so you're gonna get from me?
Adam Curry: Did you want to play anything else before
John C Dvorak: we leave is seven there's been there 17 months got
to be just pretty fishy. It's not filled with grain it would
go bad. Yeah. Do I have one last thing I have Niger. I'll play
that in the next show. Inflation reduction stuffs no good. Play
that in the next show. Now I'm good. I'm done. You're done.
Adam Curry: All right, you're done. Well, everybody doing it
here on the vacation. I hope you appreciate the value you
received. Let me see what do we have coming up?
John C Dvorak: On no agenda slogan vacation hours again next
Sunday? Yeah, we'll
Adam Curry: do it again. Next Sunday. Definitely
Unknown: an hour Same
John C Dvorak: time, same place, same
Adam Curry: time, same place and you and I have to do the the
wrap arounds for the special that we have on the Thursday
after that which is going to be a doozy it's all of the no
agenda opens.
John C Dvorak: The rest actually quite if he's gonna be dancing.
It's gonna be that show.
Adam Curry: Ya know, it's it's it's pretty trippy, actually.
Grumpy Old Ben's coming up next AI power. They'll be talking
about AI and a show mixes and your show mixes. Sir Michael
Anthony DS laughs and Matty J coming to you from the just 20
miles south of the Austin of the Texas of Spain, Barcelona. In
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry.
John C Dvorak: And from Northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C.
Dvorak. We'll
Adam Curry: be back on Sunday. Remember us at the boruch.org/na
Until then, adios mofos a hui Hui. And such
Unknown: no more room in regards a migraine crises Oh. Why don't
y'all just go back home I invited y'all but I was wrong.
You can see Rico so no more room in
New York is one of your few states. You have right to
shelter. We we were not allowed to say we don't have room. We
have no more room in the city and it's
normal you got sharks emails of drugs? Best shark we promo with
a cocaine brain. What a native ad real story like the cocaine.
They're telling us Satterfield why should we cut the cord? Why
are you watching TV it's called program for a reason. Companies
did advertise it's never been edited and know what the people
want to see. Are you surprised strike factor and sad as bad as
the real enemy is big tech. Amazon owns MGM studio, TELUS
your content will be received eating to poultry generally for
the algorithm 98% of workers early winning. Now we got some
complaining streams on all Americans who would use too many
movies and shows to consume before adding this causes only
so much room and screen time is outrageous. What really broke
people on ADHD meds game focus. I say not to talk about
religion, politics. What is politics?
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You're right. That's a family. name's Mike. Big. Mike Michael
Big Guy respected my
man's news
is Big Mike says this happened and happened. That's the black
man's experience. That's a real man. She looks like an NBA 79
He's got a dick. He's a guy. He's really up, man.
That's a man. That's a man. That's right. It's a man saved
me
with her Cognito and did my the Chinese would give up.
Adam Curry: Oh Big Mike 2024 first trans black president.
Unknown: Michael Knight, right. I am a man. Maybe our Big Mike
who cares? It's Michelle Obama took her talk out at the
Democratic Convention. The Chinese would go with thrown in
the towel. We can compete with them.
I'm just saying olders are wide. Her face very, very masculine.
She appeared to have a very large penis in her pants, and
I've gotten very high level sources. She's actually part
of the Legion of doom.org/and.
That is incredibly good news.