Unknown: his dad Bubblicious Adam curry Jhansi Devora August
13 2023. This
Adam Curry: is your award winning give our nation media
assassination episode 1581.
Unknown: This is no agenda
Adam Curry: back in the lowlands and broadcasting live parallel
to runway two, seven and Schiphol Airport in the
Netherlands in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where I can tell
that the sheep pole connection ain't what it used to be. I'm
Jhansi Dvorak. Raglan Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: Oh, is it a bad connection?
John C Dvorak: It's not a good one. Oh, it's okay. If you can
hear me. I can hear you. Yeah, you sound great.
Adam Curry: Good. Oh, so it's cracking up. It's messing up.
John C Dvorak: cracks up on on modulation. Oh, so what I'm
excited, you me? Know is when you're playing it loud clip.
Adam Curry: Okay, well, I'll try to back it off a little bit just
for you. Sorry.
John C Dvorak: I can make them so as the recording is good. I
just use
Adam Curry: you. You my friend. You sound you sound. Fabulous. I
apologize. So I we got up early, because you know,
John C Dvorak: well, you better preface it because there's an
Amsterdam. How about that? You're an Amsterdam, and we're
supposed to start an hour early. But we started a half hour
early.
Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah. Oh, 20 minutes later than we should
have started. I'm telling you, this was completely my mistake.
We I thought we had discussed, like, no, maybe we'll do an hour
early and we really hadn't finalized it. Now. Normally, I
always proofread the newsletter. I was with my sister last night
we're having dinner. And the newsletter comes in and I'm
like, I'm not gonna do that. And Tina, Tina was like, screw that
old guy. No way. Don't do the newsletter. And I forgot about
it. And then I never read that we were starting an hour early.
You see I made it her fault somehow was pretty good. So So
we're sitting downstairs, I'd been ready for an hour and a
half. We said now we can have a nice dinner because I won't be
done until midnight. So we'll we'll eat together. And and I
just ordered coffee and Tina goes Hey, Twitter's on fire.
Everyone's expecting like, Oh, okay. So brought the coffee
upstairs and got started right away. I'm sorry. That was
completely my fault.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was. Ah, so here we are. Although I could
have sent out, you know, just a friendly reminder, which I
should have done but I didn't see the need and now and
carelessness. Yes.
Adam Curry: My my fault on my part to Tina said You know, if
it were me, I would have double checked and said just to make
sure said yes. I know. By the way she has packed like Tetris
this trip. She's so good at it.
John C Dvorak: Everywhere. That's what yeah, that's what
she has to keep. Exactly. Exactly. As good as keeping time
though.
Adam Curry: So yeah, the internet is not what it used to
be. I guess. It's not it's not as great. I don't think so. No,
it's not as great as it was. Why is that? So
John C Dvorak: anyway, because war stories from the flight,
Adam Curry: you know, I wish I could give you real warst I have
a very brief travel report, but it was actually kind of smooth
San Antonio is where we left. San Antonio hands down. A
million times better than than Austin, first of all, from San
Antonio. And it's not Austin. Now better pie was on the
lookout for the facial recognition that everyone's been
talking about. Never happened. No, it's definitely there. But
it's really sly it they got so they have the cameras down below
mounted on the TSA kiosk pointing up. But there's
supposed to be a sign that says you can opt out there was none
of that. I did not make any trouble but I took note of it.
So then we everything goes I wasn't
John C Dvorak: sure to stop them in their tracks. What is this
vacation I
Adam Curry: don't want to be a troublemaker I want to get
there. The I have the new road kit, everything you know, and I
have it set up and now I just I'm very I'm able to quickly
take everything out and put it in 18 bins, really it's about
seven bins. So they didn't no hassle. They didn't you know,
check my bag because there's nothing in it basically. So the
new process that's all working. We fly to Detroit because that's
how we're gonna get there is through by Yeah, I I I've been I
used to have Chrysler as a client in Detroit. Back in the
thick new ideas days and I've been to that airport a lot and
as we're walking through, and yes, the airport
John C Dvorak: has got a subway that goes through the airport.
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. They have a subway in the airport. And I
was thinking you know, ma'am, they're really ruining our great
American aviation system. You know, because I it's Detroit is
one of those places where you fly through it to get to some
other desk destination can you just know that all these delays
and then your lack of pilots and cabin crew and it kind of took
me back to the days when you just you know you you had your
your your driver drop you off at curbside 20 minutes before the
flight would leave, you throw your keys into the little bin
you know you go through the metal detector, there was no
issues with anything there wasn't even screen your bags.
There was no bag screening I don't even think at the time.
You know, just put your coins into the little basket and you
grab them and you ran to the gate you got on there's no TSA
now that bull crap. When I was a kid, then it was it just I don't
know I had this just weird reminiscing feeling about me
about just how easy and it just used to work you know now you
see everyone unhappy. And there's delays everywhere. It's
just it's ruined the whole coolness of our air
transportation system is ruined. You don't fly
John C Dvorak: thanks to eight holes effects like this shoe
bomber. Yeah. The assholes who kept hijacking planes to Cuba if
you remember that
Adam Curry: era. That was before my time I wasn't part of the of
the Cuban hijacking. But even then, after that we did you know
that's when we got the metal detectors, but you didn't have
to take your shoes off. You didn't have to put your bags. I
think there might have been at a certain point they might have
had some kind of minor X ray thing that you threw your bag
through but they never they say oh hold on a sec. I didn't get a
good thing and they just put it back in again. Now you're good
to go. They might want you if you went off in the metal
detector. None of this go back. Take your belt off take your
take your shoe the your your watch. I take all that stuff
off. It's just kind of ruined anyway. To make matters worse,
so we're we are on Delta from Detroit to Amsterdam. And you
know, you stand in the line. It's like a you need to
John C Dvorak: watch a weird flight. Where are you going,
Dale, I'm going to Amsterdam from Detroit.
Adam Curry: It's a cheap flight is what that is. And then you
get that ladies and gentlemen, please, if you came here going
to Amsterdam, you have to have your passport in your hand. If
your passports not in your hand, you will not be allowed to mine.
Okay, we got a passport and a boarding cards. And you walk up
and there's a guy just stand there says Look at that. Look at
that. Look at the camera. And you look in the camera and
flash. I mean there's no flash but the screen goes zip. And
then the little circle and there's your head and you get a
green checkmark. And that's it. They didn't look at your ticket
didn't look at my passport, anything. So they already had me
facial recognition ized
John C Dvorak: or not. And that was my guess he
Adam Curry: went fast. No and had your name there too. We went
boom. Adam curry
John C Dvorak: go when they taught when they took a picture
of you said Adam curry after the picture. No one's
Adam Curry: taking a picture. There's a screen that's about
John C Dvorak: your head it says Adam curry it's so it sees your
shoulder because it took the same picture of you down below
at the beginning. Remember?
Adam Curry: Well, that was in but that was in Santa beginning
of your flight. Yeah. So So you're telling me Yeah, but Dan
Antonio of the TSA put that into the system?
John C Dvorak: Has to what I was would they have your picture
with Adam curry name?
Adam Curry: From my prison record? I don't know. Um,
John C Dvorak: there's no other way that I can think of. Well,
and why not? It's just a network. Just the internet.
Adam Curry: Come on. This stuff never works. Try try re booking
your flight. They don't like
John C Dvorak: the fact that it worked at that point 100
million. I'm just saying that as possible. That what that is that
your picture in San Antonio, which were they associated with
Adam curry? Is the say is how it? No, I gave the name Adam
curry when you got to Detroit. I
Adam Curry: think when we hear here's what I'm thinking when we
checked in, in San Antonio. I think then they scan the
passport picture. That's how I think it works. And that good.
So that's in the I don't think the TSA system is connected. It
feels okay. Well, when that would make more sense. Even
that's amazing that it works in today's ABS amazing. Anything
John C Dvorak: works. I agree. It's amazing.
Adam Curry: I can talk to you from Amsterdam on this
connection. Oh, that's amazing. So then here's the good part.
Friends of ours who have pool and influence in the Netherlands
arrange for the VIP arrival. This is the coolest thing ever.
Oh, so you you walk out of the plane and you go up to halfway
up the the jetway and there's a lady with a nice business suit
on Mr. Mrs. Curry. Yes.
John C Dvorak: Did they did she didn't have a sign or anything.
She just
Adam Curry: No. spotted me spotted me right away. Mr. Mrs.
Curry. Yes. I'm here from the VIP center, or the VIP center or
dip center, VIP, the VIP, the VIP, the VIP VIP VIP Yeah, they
called VIP VIP Center. I'm here from the VIP center. Okay, come
with me. And so she opens the door on the jetway opens up and
put this a little staircase. You go dassanayake, basically
underneath the nose of the aircraft. And there's an Audi
limousine, like, I don't know. Like, it looks like a like an
eight. But it's a limo verse stretch out, stretch Audi, and
we get in and it smells new, like Corinthian leather. And we
just were driving around the air side of the airport, and then
she pulls up. And there's all these other people like, hello,
and they're on uniforms, you know, like, white shoes, black,
black pants, and just you know, uniform was dolled up. Okay,
let's dolled up and there's and there's a customs guy, you know,
and in the Netherlands, the customs are military.
John C Dvorak: So he was straight so that this just took
you to us to a private customs. Yeah,
Adam Curry: private customs. And the guy was teaching to chunk
passport. You go up the elevator, you go through this,
like
John C Dvorak: getting off a private Yes, exactly.
Adam Curry: This is what the king and queen do. And
John C Dvorak: you gotta set me up for that I'm going down. So
I'm just visiting this,
Adam Curry: this VIP Center, this is ripped and has your
crown jewels behind glass and all the royal family. You know,
my girl makishima The queen who hair flipped me. It's got, you
know, beautiful pieces of art. There's huge antique books, it's
all there's all these different rooms and we go into the canal
house room, which is like a little suite with a TV and a
breakfast table and couches. And they say oh, what can we get up?
You get some breakfast and I'm here we're ordering breakfast.
That which is all you know, they even do the breakfast with the
with a gold paint on the you know, like the gold stuff on the
plate. So you get french toast and cold
John C Dvorak: stuff. You know, I met this place and they had
gold stuff on the plate. But she has moved from Texas.
Adam Curry: What do you call it? What chefs do what chefs do on
when they live in a fancy restaurant they you know they
put little gold flakes and they smeared out old leaf golf leaf
gold stuff. Gold leaf gold leaf on my french toast and and then
to my shit Do you need to do you need our claim checks? No, no,
no, it's all in the system will take care of it for you. And
then a certain point it's like and whenever you're ready, you
know you'd luggage is downstairs. And so we mosey on
down after about an hour.
John C Dvorak: I'd be a little better on the on the outbound.
Do you have that?
Adam Curry: I don't know if we get lucky that way. But it was
fantastic. And then we're literally across the street in
the airport hotel was kind of funny. No, but that was funny.
That was fantastic. That was the best part. The best part for
sure.
John C Dvorak: So so so good to have friend JC faces. JC and
Jesse went to Hawaii. Wow. So I asked him I said I gotta have a
story, some sort of an airport story that compete with curry
here. And he didn't have one except for the fact that I guess
there was some guy on the plane who they dosed up with Ambien
and he started sleepwalking. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Oh, no.
John C Dvorak: And they had to did took the whole crew to
subdue him and then tie him into the seat. And as soon as they
strapped him in, he felt dead asleep. And he didn't wake up
the whole time they put the
Adam Curry: gaffer tape around him. I've seen that like no,
John C Dvorak: they didn't have to because he conked out wow.
It's Ambien. They said it was Ambien
Adam Curry: probably had Ambien with a little glass of alcohol,
John C Dvorak: or something. Who knows? But it's a pretty good
story. These drugs are no good
Adam Curry: now about about Hawaii and about Maui
specifically. So we got several pieces of email that people
thought we were huge dicks.
John C Dvorak: Was they thought you were in particular? Well, I
Adam Curry: got a couple that said you were in particular, but
it doesn't matter. I mean, we were making a point about
something that we only had historical information on. And
yeah, this happens a lot. Yeah. And if you're coming at it from
a Oh, look at all the people that are dead that we're just
finding about now. I mean, are eight hours before that? We
weren't quite
John C Dvorak: here. Here's what we were talking about the
following. How did this happen? Yeah, exactly. And it's not
global warming and the whole town burned to the ground. And
then there was no alerts and no you all you do all the news
stories say the same thing. Nobody said anything. We didn't
even get a beep on our phone. So you have a bunch of dead people.
This thing was a disaster. How does it town and complete town
like this? burned to the ground? Well, I have it and they're on
the water. Yes. Then you look along the shore and there's a
bunch of cars burnt to a crisp, five feet from the ocean.
Adam Curry: So first of all, we were not intentionally being
insensitive because when people are like, I can't believe you
did that. Well, you can because we won't Looking at it from
historical perspective,
John C Dvorak: we're not gonna make excuses. Every year,
Adam Curry: I am gonna make some history every year or so this
happens. But this was different. And we do have some good boots
on the ground reports and the best one is from Dustin. And so
if you look online, the conspiracy theories are better
than I could have ever even come up with. We have directed energy
weapons,
John C Dvorak: we just was expecting that one. But that's
not
Adam Curry: what happened. We but there is some. I think
there's some credence to some of the thinking that's out there, I
have to tick tock clips just to give you an idea of the kind of
stuff that I was being sent. So today
Unknown: we're gonna give a little update on the Hawaiian
fires. Now I want you to look at this footage, and this surely
doesn't look like a fire to me. It looks like something almost
exploded or something went off.
Adam Curry: And this this footage looks very much like
that Northern California footage that was started by Cydia
paradise paradise. Thank you, it looks very much like that. Just
incinerated. And then there's a tree, which is perfectly fine,
you know. So these are very weird things. Now, what's
Unknown: interesting is certain things are still standing while
other things are not now the Governor did say this is climate
change doing this. Interesting. What they don't talk about is in
January, how they had in Maui, a smart city conference to turn
Maui into an entire smart Island.
Adam Curry: This is true that there is and I think that is an
interesting point, but not quite the directed energy weapons
level yet
Unknown: changing everything to electric renewables, solar
panels and pushing everybody into electric vehicles. 15
minutes smart cities. So now what's also interesting is next
month in September, Hawaii is hosting the Digital Government
Summit, utilizing AI to govern the island.
Adam Curry: We've gone off track here, people,
Unknown: it's almost like they're resetting something to
start rebuilding for this in which they're trying to push.
Now when we look at all the climate change narrative that
they're going to try to push but they're not going to talk about
the weather modification act of 1970. I only recommend everybody
look into this act, because who is involved in the weather
modification activities, Department of Agriculture,
Department of Defense Department of Interior, EPA and NASA. Okay,
so
Adam Curry: this guy goes on. It's like they modified the
weather to ruin Maui. All right, then we get the TIC tock girl,
Unknown: I have been trapped in line for the last four days. And
I experienced firsthand what was going on. What I went through is
not important. I need to discuss it. This was not a natural
disaster. This was a direct attack on the people and the
place of knowledge. As you know, what lives their descendants
lived there. You know why? And you know why it happened on
eighth? This is not something that you believe it's time to
stop being.
Adam Curry: Yeah, okay. Now, a couple of data points. It is
absolutely true that there are a lot of very wealthy, some famous
elite people who have big homesteads in Maui. And for a
long time, there's been Native Hawaiians who have not want to
give up their land they didn't want to sell out to them. This
town is very historic town. And this is where Dustin comes in
with his boots on the ground. Behind la Lahaina, I think it's
I pronounce it says he's been there in Maui for 14 years. He's
absolutely your analysis on Thursday the fires in Maui
having nothing to do with climate change completely spot
on. Here's the background which I think is interesting. The
background were the worst case Lahaina
John C Dvorak: by the way.
Adam Curry: The hyena behind the area where the worst fires took
place, the west coast of Maui, specifically the town of
Lahaina, the town is located on the very western edge of the
island in the shadow of the West Maui Mountains, which block
almost all of the moisture that comes from the east. This is a
hot, dry desert almost all year long. The town of Lahaina was
once the capital of Hawaii and when the Hawaiian royal family
lived there. That was the mid 1800s. They would spend their
summers in the nearby olowalu area because it was just too hot
to be in this town. The word Lahaina roughly translated to
English means the unrelenting sun, so this has been a hot dry
place for hundreds if not 1000s of years. In the mid 1800s,
early 1900s Lahaina became a hub for sugarcane production behind
the harbor became a center for whaling and the whaling
industry. Hundreds of wooden homes were built to house
whalers and sugarcane workers, and many more large wooden
structures were built along the world famous Front Street and
use the stores, restaurants and hotels to supply the town. Fast
forward to present day behind as a busy tourist destination. All
those old wooden buildings built before modern building codes are
now Historic Landmarks cannot be upgraded or changed by the new
owners due to permitting restrictions. buildings were
built very close together without any modern fire
mitigation measurements and measures and located in a part
of the island that is surrounded by hundreds of acres of dry
grassland, and has wildfires as you mentioned on the show every
single summer season. A few days ago, there was a hurricane that
passed to the south of Maui. Now we know that that was about 500
miles away, but they did have 60 plus mile an hour winds on the
West Coast, which toppled power lines in the dry grassland just
outside of town igniting them. Let me reiterate, this happens
every year at this time, but this year, the fires just
happened to be a little too close to town and the addition
of the hurricane force blowing in the direction of the old
wooden homes and stores is enough to burn the entire town
of Lahaina to the ground almost immediately. I think this is
exactly what happened. But there probably was not a huge
incentive on the island. And they probably been maybe even
waiting for this like one of these piece of crap things going
to burn down. Because this is gold, this is gold. And I also
think by throwing in the hurricane, maybe we get some
kind of force majeure. You know, insurance companies like I you
know, this is, this is an act of God may get off the hook. They
may they may that that's why I think this being played up so
much. But this is going to be Dustin says he thinks the death
toll may be in the 1000
John C Dvorak: i Well, there's only 1000 people missing, so
it's not gonna get into 1000s. And we could get up to 1000
Unknown: up to 1000. But
John C Dvorak: I'm in total agreement with this. Yeah, they
have this place was one of those places that did great for
tourists. I mean, I love going into these old rickety old
towns, the old wild west. And you go in there and you can shop
and there's all these cute little places and and meanwhile
the developers are looking you know the smacking their lips.
This is no good. I mean, we can't do it. Look, can we can we
care to have these old buildings down maybe and build something?
No. So here's okay. Okay, fine, fine, fine. And I think that may
account for the fed and well I don't know if it did anybody any
good not to warn anybody because they weren't going to stop the
fire anyway. But there was no mitigation whatsoever. His day
are on the water. One tick one pumper boat.
Adam Curry: Listen, Dame Jessie boots on the ground. Fire
started in the morning, she's there in Maui Fire Department
claimed it to be 100% contained, and left left with the huge
winds blowing. I drove the road where it restarted around noon,
and there was no fire at the time. anonymously, my husband
Oh, okay. So and honestly, I can't say that, I guess, let's
just say there was a water truck sent to the site that was turned
back. She feels his whole apocalypse of Maui could have
been completely avoided. And there will be big lawsuits, the
older fire chiefs all retired in the last couple of years. And
the new ones are all budget conscious to one water truck,
which might have cost a couple $1,000 would have stopped this.
So I'm thinking that exactly John that knows like me, you
know, it's time to redevelop this thing now, did they
consider that this was like a box of matches that it will just
go up like that. And I can imagine that if the ground is
dry. And it's all wooden structures all built next to
each other that can go fast fire can go very fast,
John C Dvorak: especially with old wooden buildings. And so I'm
fan that that first note about the buildings being a bunch of
old, you know, pieces of junk basically, ready to go at the
drop of a hat that towel could it burn to the ground at any
time.
Adam Curry: And I'm thinking that because it came so quickly
and you saw the laser beams from the sky pictures everywhere,
which turns out to the time lapse launch from a rocket from
Vandenberg. I think I have half a mind now that this was
launched into the ether just to you know, to put it out to all
that's a crazy conspiracy theory about the elites wanting it to
burn to the ground where they probably did. But let's just
throw some directed energy weapons stuff into the mix. And
then everyone will say it's a conspiracy theory and won't have
to talk about it anymore.
John C Dvorak: I think there's like $1.7 billion with a tourism
in that town. It's 1.327 I can't remember the exact number, which
is about something like a lot of Hawaii's told tourist industry.
So it's over a billion dollars in tourism in that in that
island. Yeah, they figured they can double that if they get rid
of that if they rebuild. What modern tourists want modern
tourists are not like you and I who like maybe really do like
going through walking around
Adam Curry: the old town. Yeah, of course we love that. No
John C Dvorak: monitors that they like they don't mind if
it's a little slicker a little nicer a little more like
Disneyland Right?
Unknown: Exactly.
John C Dvorak: And I think that they this is this is not they'll
never This is unsolvable as a mystery it's just you can't keep
doing it you can't find the guy that the match but
Adam Curry: well according to Dustin it was the the winds that
blew that happens every single year except this year. They
thought stop it. They said they had it contained and they didn't
and they didn't have any they hadn't. They weren't prepared.
Now, is that gonna
John C Dvorak: be just could be a confluence of idiots. That's
always possible. Yeah. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So And believe me, I'm the first guy to want it to
be a directed energy weapon. If you know that. Oh, yeah. And I'm
looking at these pictures like and then have the green lasers
from space that happened just a few weeks ago. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that's a good one.
Adam Curry: Well, the green space they aren't measuring
stuff. That's that's probably
John C Dvorak: I don't have any clips from the Maui store. I
think we've beat it up there. I think that covers us pretty much
but I do have since you're talking about crazy stuff. I
have to I'm bringing these clips and these are clips that are
there. They're almost a month old. But but they're they're
Alex Jones Jones clips. And the reason I'm bringing them up
because I just want to make a point to people out there who
are podcasters or podcast wannabes or everyone when has
the podcast. This is not Alex on his show. This is Alex on that
show that value tainment group
Adam Curry: pet Patrick bett Patrick Davis, what does it
John C Dvorak: do? And he's just he's got three guys and it's a
well produced show in terms of the quality of the sound that's
for sure. Patrick Davis that's it. But the reason I want to
play this is because I have to say we don't play Alex Jones
clips much. But when we when he goes on somebody else's show.
Yeah, he brings it. Yes, he does. He does it on Rogen. He
wherever he goes that people should do they go You're right.
Alex Jones. No, you should bring him on. And here's the I've got
three clips and these clips are just unbelievable. Let's start
with AJ on on Biden.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I thought Hold on a second. AJ Biden, sorry,
here we go.
Unknown: They're getting ready to take out the garbage with
Biden. I think they'll probably kill him. Or he'll die honestly.
Hold on some stairs or be drugged or whatever, or or at
least be in a coma very soon. And I've got very high level
sources that are there. You got people Dougie, the Democratic
Party. Roger stones totally dialed and he was on my show
yesterday. And he said they're crazy enough that they're
thinking that's what Democrats are saying right now. Okay. Big
Mike. Michelle Obama. Hey, that's my line. And then VP
Newsom or Newsom. But Obama is he's the real President right
now. And he'll third term elected we have a video. He he's
now coming back out and saying I'm involved and I'll see how
they're getting ready to get rid of Biden. That's the only reason
those reporters are on a leash. None of them ever asked question
for two and a half years suddenly they're all attacking.
Yep, it's because they've been let off the leash because Biden
was supposed to like he said right before he's
Adam Curry: I love it how this guy's going yep, yep. Yeah,
right on Yeah.
Unknown: won the election. Remember? He said, Well, if I
don't do what I'm told the I'll probably just develop some rare
disease and resign. Yep, he said it multiple times. Letting them
know, man Well, he's still his brain was still there remember
the deals then? But according to Roger Stone, other sources
Rogers dead on. He's He's hangs out with he talks to some of the
high level Democrats. Bullshit. Joe Biden is telling him Don't
leave. She likes the power and, and he's he's told him eff off.
Adam Curry: Alright, hold on. Now, before you move on with AJ
clips. Tina and I were just discussing a new version of my
theory. I wasn't even going to bring this up. But now I need to
bring it up. Because what I'm seeing ever since. Oh, let me
laugh first, as you're gonna love this. You're gonna love
this. I agree with Alex Jones. Biden is no way you gotta say
yep. Yeah, Biden's toast. Yep, he's out. So the I mean, they've
got the special counsel. I'm sure you have clips. I got
clips. We got that. Yeah, short counsel. I got that. But what's
happening is this Obama gay thing is catching fire. The
Telegraph. Everyone's you know, this book that's been out
forever. Now all of a sudden, it's like it's just not news.
No, I know. It's not news.
John C Dvorak: We do remember this. Newsweek actually came out
with an edition of Newsweek that said our first gate President
Obama, yes.
Adam Curry: But wait, because I'm adjusting my theory. I think
so. The Democratic Party who the heck knows who's running what, I
think we have multiple factions inside the Democratic Party. And
there's one and there's the crazy trans Maoist faction. You
know, the ones who have three trans kids, and they're and
they've all gotten together and said, This is our chance. This
is it. We've got to ease America into it. We've got to let them
know Obama's gay. And then boom, Big Mike 2024 first trans black
president.
John C Dvorak: This was a logical conclusion that I knew
you would draw.
Adam Curry: Well, there it is. I'm just putting it out there.
Okay,
John C Dvorak: it's out there. It's out there. It's on the
record. At first I thought they were trying
Adam Curry: to thwart Michelle Obama by saying nah, by creating
controversy around her husband. But now I'm these people are
crazy. They'll do it. Listen,
John C Dvorak: we know that you know, what happened?
Adam Curry: Who knew we'd be locked down? Who knew we would
have 1000s of children being sterilized? I anything's on the
table for me.
John C Dvorak: With the 1000s of kids being sterilized, that's
pretty interesting. And it's, I'm gonna do the skip Biden
twofer. Now, that's the last clip now, because AJ still
bringing it so here he is on Trump.
Unknown: Yeah, I think I mean, I think they're gonna demonize
even diamond diamond diamond dot him. And then I I think they'll
blow their plane up. I really got level is Trump. I mean, I
mean, I believe the deep state establishment will murder him. I
mean, I believe he's gonna steadfast go through all this.
You know, he'll be he'll be 30 points ahead in the primaries,
nothing's gonna stop him. And then they just, you know, he
dies of a heart attack or they poison him with a closer point
on the pricker.
Adam Curry: The pricker airline and blowing up the airplane is
messy.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is me. I'm just saying this is just AJ,
you know, on somebody else's show. He just goes nuts. And I
just thought this clip had to be clipped. This is the last one of
the three. And it I just did just a head shaker and just
hilarious. I was
Unknown: told by the NYPD and Secret Service a year and a half
ago when he went remember he kept showing up late and
changing clothes like three times, though he gets mad when
he goes in these weird because they get him on speed too much
to roll him out and hope it's okay. And it's not now. But when
he gets mad, he takes a big dump in his drawers. I'm serious.
Okay. He's got him saying My butt's been wiped.
Adam Curry: He said he did say can we Fact Check? Check. Okay,
yeah, he brings it but this is alright. I wasn't gonna do this
until maybe second half of show. But this is going to bring this
kind of talk is putting all of us in danger in grave danger.
Because now we have the Southern Poverty Law Center, going after
podcasts. At first it was just a little you
John C Dvorak: know, little all those mate loony. Oh, yeah, but
Adam Curry: this this is new now. Because now there's this
outfit called Tech against terrorism. It's an NGO. Oh,
yeah. It's an NGO funded by the United Nations our own money.
And the most recent, most recent episode is about podcasts.
Podcasts are really used by by terrorists and extremists to
recruit and plan horrible things. And when you listen,
well have a couple of short clips when you listen to it.
That I think everyone's in danger.
Unknown: This week we're discussing the use of podcasts
by extremist actors are growing unconcerned. And Trent
concerning over the last 10 years or so extremists have
increasingly been leveraging podcasts as a platform to spread
their messages recruit followers on network with like minded
individuals, extremist groups and networks on the far right
have developed an alternative media ecosystem that is
reinforcing and normalizing hateful ideologies, fringe
ideas, and conspiracy theories. And the ease of creating and
distributing audio content has allowed these actors to
regularly produce material that reaches a global audience and
amplifies their extremist worldviews.
Adam Curry: Now, raise your hand whenever you feel they're
talking about no agenda, no agenda, nation. No agenda
social.com. Anytime you feel that that might be talking about
us. Let's talk about the scope of this research they have done
with the SPLC the southern Southern Poverty Law Center Lady
California regulators have Oops, that's not the right one. I'm
sorry. To be this one.
Unknown: Most of the podcasts that we studied were produced by
organized groups, although some more not, we tried to pick up
mix, right, right. And then some of them were individual
vehicles, so but even those podcasts tended to have
recurring guests or CO hosts that they would bring Get in as
kind of semi regular cast members, I guess. And then
ideologically, we again tried to pick a mix of the different
flavors of hate and extremism. So there were some
Adam Curry: different flavors of hate and
Unknown: extremism, Neo Confederate podcast or some neo
Nazi podcast, we had variety of what used to be called the alt
right podcasts. Yeah, so just a big mix there, some anti
government style podcasts. So we had about 18 that we studied,
and there were, oh, gosh, I want to say 900, and some different
cast members across this podcast and several 1000 episodes that
they produced over a 14 year period.
Adam Curry: Who's that? This is Southern profit loss. And
they're like, no, no, I'm
John C Dvorak: saying who is the
Adam Curry: dude, they've got a map. They've gotten like a map,
a huge little digger. She
John C Dvorak: said there was 1400 episodes, and they were
1000s of guests.
Adam Curry: Cast on us by the last minute which cast members?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we there's no doubt about it. You're not
talking about us. All right. Members, except for the two of
us. All right.
Adam Curry: Okay. So all right. They're not talking
John C Dvorak: back it up a little bit. I want to hear that
part of this. I want you to podcast she's talking I want
let's move forward
Adam Curry: and you start hearing it.
Unknown: I turn to Meghan to learn what it is about podcast
specifically, that makes them useful communication tool for
extremists.
Adam Curry: Mind you. All right. I mean, we are not named
specifically. And they only have a couple of like, not even
they're not even doing Steve Bannon at this point. But they
have a map with all kinds of dots and how they're all
connected. And Josh, yeah. Hey, I've been on the Alex Jones
podcast, you have believe me? We're connected as group.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah.
Unknown: They're very low cost to produce. So you basically
just need a microphone and some recording software. You can
throw the file up and it'll get scooped up, hopefully.
John C Dvorak: Throw it up in the air file, and
Unknown: you're good to go. But different podcasts, catchers and
then distributed to a pretty wide audience. It's cross
platform, low skill, and wide distribution. Those are pretty
magical features, if you're, you know, if you're trying to
promote hatefully deals,
John C Dvorak: not a feature.
Adam Curry: But also we made it that way. So everybody can
podcast lady. That was the whole point.
Unknown: There's also a variety of different platforms that they
can live on. So you're not sort of hitching your wagon just to
Spotify or just Apple podcasts. There's a wider distribution
network. And this is helpful if you're trying to stay under the
radar. Have one or not get content moderated. Right, like
you
John C Dvorak: stopped. Stop it for one second. I have to
interrupt. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So people are dangerous. I just want you know,
these
John C Dvorak: people know I, you, we they've been dangerous
for a long time. Yeah. But let's let's stop for a sec. What was
the year that you'd say? What was your first what year? Was
the podcast first implemented? I would say let's say the first
though, during your source code era 3000. In fact, 2003 20 Wait
a minute.
Adam Curry: That's important to note. That's when we started but
the first official daily source code was launched on August 13.
Two day in 2004. But the the experimentation was already
happening in 2003.
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, let's start it. I'm going to go with
the 2003. Because it's a round number because it's 2023. Yeah,
but it's okay to say 2014. So 19 years have passed was millions
of people putting up podcast and all of a sudden after almost,
let's say, almost 20 years. They do this?
Adam Curry: What you have to understand first, these people
are morons and dangerous. So they are just now discovering
that podcasts aren't only on Spotify and Apple. They're like,
holy moly. There's people look
John C Dvorak: this podcast is outside the Yes. Here
Adam Curry: are flying under the radar with this stuff with wide
distribution that just throw a file up in the air and boom
1000s of people have it
Unknown: hitching your wagon just to Spotify or just Apple
podcasts. There's a wider distribution network. And this
is helpful if you're trying to stay under the radar of one or
not get content moderated right like you if you just on YouTube,
or you're just on
Adam Curry: people have like their own networks in there. And
they have their own cast members, also known as producers
who are hosting these files and it's outside of apple and
Spotify. Come on John here with the ladies saying
Unknown: twitch or something streaming your bulletins that
platform jump kick you off, podcasts are a little looser,
loose. So you control the file and how it gets recorded. And
then from there, it gets distributed more broadly. So
there actually is. So, there actually turns out to be a
pretty effective means of building community and spreading
propaganda. Yes, propaganda
Adam Curry: and community now, what kind of people are this?
What kind of, of individuals are these? under the radar podcasts?
What kind of podcasts? Are these? What's going on with
this?
Unknown: I asked Megan about the ideologies promoted on these
extremist podcasts and OreImo. Say your track. Yeah, just
John C Dvorak: stop it again. When time is I? Because this is
so ridiculous. Who is this other woman what it was? Did you get
this?
Adam Curry: This? This is the tech against terrorism show. And
it's from an NGO named tech against terrorism, which is,
John C Dvorak: which is a podcast which has served
ironically, it's, well,
Adam Curry: they have a podcast, been around for a while. Been a
real really ever since 2016. I would say this is British chick.
She's the host of the show. Okay, so she has two people on
from the Southern Poverty Law Center. That's the other lady
and then you'll hear some douchebag dude. So now she's
going to go into what kind of podcasts are these? Who are
these these shadowy figures who don't want to be on Spotify or
apple?
Unknown: I asked Megan about the ideologies promoted on these
extremist
Adam Curry: ideologies, do they? What ideologies do these
extremists have
Unknown: missed podcasts and the audience they attract? There
were religious faiths podcast was one that we looked at that
was Oh, no.
Adam Curry: Man, I picked a fine time to be born again.
Unknown: Religious space podcast was one that we looked at that
was Orthodox Christian, no, caspo no
Adam Curry: Orthodox Christians. Were there Russians, Ukrainians,
who are these Orthodox Christians?
John C Dvorak: There's a bunch of these.
Adam Curry: I've no I do know that. I know God casters, I
mean, a lot of God casters in my orbit
Unknown: in style podcast. There was one that we looked at that
was a NEO Confederate, you know, the South will rise against
actually we had at least two of those in the set. It was an all
right podcast that was primarily panels talking about the news.
There was a new boy Nazi podcast that had a radio shock jock
sharp, John Matt, there was a podcast that attempted to do
comedy and each of the guests or hosts rather would have these
recurring characters that they would play that were either
racist stereotypes and tropes, or hey, I'm
Adam Curry: Zippy I'm a racist,
Unknown: or that kind of thing trying to be funny. I mean,
really, it'd
Adam Curry: be funny. It sounds like
John C Dvorak: we're doing the Dana Carvey podcast, trying to
be funny,
Unknown: quite a variety of different styles. And it was a
lot in generalities, I would say it's mostly a male audience
right. And just like the groups that we're setting in the in the
movements that we're studying are typically male, although
I've written extensively and others have to on women in these
movements, but it is typically male. And then depending on you
ever
John C Dvorak: listen to Sophia with an F, she's not call her
daddy or any of these No, man, those sons of female based
podcasts, they're
Adam Curry: not the extremists. You never listen
John C Dvorak: to them
Unknown: extensively, and others have to on women in these
movements, but it is typically male. And then depending on the
podcast, and depending on the ideology that that podcast is
promoting. Some of them are trends younger and some of them
trend older. It really just, it really just depends. And then
there's some that fall right in the middle and have a truly
mixed audience. So yeah, mostly male. Mostly, what that's
probably not surprising, was, you know, the podcasts that
we've chose for this sample were largely white supremacy, you
know, white nationalist white supremacist style podcasts. So
that is very surprising that they, they tend to be white and
male and they just were mixed.
Adam Curry: white and male, old and younger. Good. We're in the
sweet spot of this thing is beautiful. Now, as I said,
they've discovered
John C Dvorak: they've discovered now younger this
week. We're in the sweet spot.
Adam Curry: They've discovered that you know, how does this
work? How did they get around the content moderation, their
friends at Spotify, their friends at Apple? Oh, how was
this being done? I think this is the dude now comes the crack.
Unknown: Streamers podcast distributed across the
internet's how are
Adam Curry: they distributed across the internet, if they're
not working with big tech, which we can then censor?
Unknown: I asked Bjorn so it's really various. Some of the
podcasts are like open a distributed tray like the main
distribution services wherever you find your podcasts.
Adam Curry: Oh, Oh no, if you say wherever you find your
podcasts, you might be an extremist.
Unknown: People keep saying podcasts, the problem of
podcasts of our is that you don't have to distribute them
through a service like that, like making it impossible to
watch
John C Dvorak: this guy, okay, he's very affected
Unknown: service like that, like making it impossible. So there
should be certain podcasts through those services is
certainly good in terms of like lowering the amount of
detection.
Adam Curry: But we're not being detected.
Unknown: Podcasts are largely kind of distributed through RSS
feeds. Anyone with a computer can set up an RSS feed. And
that's the point spread to their podcast, tree more subversion
ways. And so
John C Dvorak: you said subversion
Adam Curry: reversers. So if you just distribute via RSS, that's
versus that's more subversive versus you know what he means
the
Unknown: more subverted ways and so like, as we're talking about,
also content moderation and the fediverse and more of
distribution, right at verse,
Adam Curry: verse, hello, no agenda, social
Unknown: operation and the Senate version more kind of
distributed in the Federated Services, the syndication model,
Adam Curry: these people living under a rock? No, they're living
on 100 million dollars of Southern Poverty Law Center
money. That's that pile is so heavy, they can't see the RSS
through the dollars
Unknown: versus the syndication model of podcasts, being
distributed through RSS feeds is really an interesting case study
as well in preparation for that. And because of AdWords, the way
in which it's really left up to the control of the individual.
Adam Curry: They have no control, they have control.
John C Dvorak: They can't the individual can control. Yes,
Adam Curry: this is this is what they hate. They hate that we are
doing this ourselves. I'm not gonna say they're
John C Dvorak: just gonna stop, stop. I'm gonna stop. I don't
I'm not giving you a clip for the day for this crap. But But I
am going to find a way to nominate you for the Nobel Peace
Prize for for podcasts and 2.0. So they can think I'm joking.
No,
Adam Curry: why, but why do I deserve the I mean, I want the
peace prize. It would be nice. But how do i Why am I deserving
of this?
John C Dvorak: Because podcasting 2.0 Yes. For saw.
Yes. The clips you're playing right now. Yeah. And created a
secondary, kind of a backup system extremist tech podcast
and for the rest of the rest of the days.
Adam Curry: Yes, extremist terrorist outfit,
John C Dvorak: but you will get you well, you know, that's up to
people want to find extremist stuff, they'll find it this got
nothing to do with podcasting 2.0 or anything else? No, of
Adam Curry: course not. Well, they are however, they, you
know, they, it's a big problem for this, even though they have
hundreds of millions of dollars. It's a real big problem
detecting all of these things. Because you know, it's a lot of
podcasts, you have to you got to sift through 1000s of episodes.
But
Unknown: all the detection software has largely been
focused on music because a copyright enforcement and so
there are elements of software out there that is useful for
that and can be used for things like automatic detection of
jingles are common across from a tech perspective, discovering
what people are actually saying in all your competence is a
challenge.
Adam Curry: So it's still a challenge, even though
podcasting 2.0 literally has made it so that you can now go
to bing.io. And you can search the transcript of every single
episode we've ever done. Oh, man, so support us now people
for our legal fund. My goodness, they're nuts. These people are
nuts. They cannot stand that we're using that anyone is using
the Internet. Anyone? Anyone anyone I'm satisfied said anyone
John C Dvorak: that any single person. And like, you know, the
clip was the you know, who's the who doesn't have a podcast? Yes.
But that's not something that you want. You don't want
everybody having a voice or being having the ability to be
heard. Now. They they do noisy,
Adam Curry: but what I'm hearing here is they are they're just
discovering because of that very big pile of money they're living
under that there's this whole ecosystem that's been around for
they think 14 years, but Okay, give them that 20 years that
exists on RSS. We thought Google had done away with that a long
time ago when they close Google Reader but oh no. Turns out
these extremists are Still using this to distribute their their
Hateful Eight Pages hate, just hate and we can't we need to
stop them they need to be moderated somehow.
John C Dvorak: Moderation. Yeah. Anyway, that brings me to
January 6, January 6. I just did just a cursory thing I probably
should do an essay on this but a couple of conservative writers
had written up a actually professors had written up that
Trump is really has an issue with this. It doesn't make sense
when I read their essays about how it's in the Constitution
that if you take part in an insurrection, you are
unqualified, you can't run for president, right. And all these
indictments and all this bullcrap is really this all a
smokescreen for the real indictment, which is the January
6 stuff. And the fact that from day one. From day one, there was
a comment and we I remember when this January 6 happened, you and
I have wished that well, why watch this. I watched it on C
span. There wasn't anything going on. It was a creation. It
was created by Nancy Pelosi and it was worse than Pearl Harbor,
911 and all the rest of it. So that brings me and so I'm
thinking that this is this is a last ditch attempt is yes to
keep Trump from running and it's all based on him being an
insurrection. Even though I have lots of thoughts on this.
Adam Curry: Can I tell you what Tina's theory was on this
because she's way into this? Yeah, she's she's waiting
because she's always saying I hate this. By the way. She's a
white supremacist. She's the problem if Southern Poverty Law
Center, she's the one she's the she's the mastermind behind the
no agenda show. So she's always looking at how they're still
people locked up for the for trespassing, in essence, what
they're trying to get them on one of the one of the to Trump
charges, which is thwarting or interrupting or trying to stop a
process in Senate, which is, you know, that's an insurrectionist
thing. And so they're trying to hide from what she says what I
think is reasonable. They're trying to convict some poor
people like 65 and 68 years old, of this work slouches of this
one particular crime, which is interceding. I forget the exact
term in a governmental process, which would be the exact process
is one of Trumps. Yeah, that's that's one of his charts. And if
they convict this those people, then they can they'll have a
case by case law to indict the two
John C Dvorak: conditions. They, this is a long way, but Okay,
good luck with that. I'm just saying, let's listen to these
clips. This is the Epoch Times. January, the pot times ended up
grabbing, getting hold those same tapes that that Tucker
Carlson tried to show he showed him for one day of his show and
then got fired.
Adam Curry: This is the guy who was running the Capitol Police.
John C Dvorak: That's coming. That's the last of the of these
clips. Let's start with the Epoch Times one.
Unknown: The epic times on Friday released a special report
called The January 6 tapes. This comes after a three month
investigation by the newspaper of over 40,000 hours of US
Capitol police surveillance video. Some of the most dramatic
surveillance footage acquired shows the disabling of Capitol
Police Officer Brian slick Nick, he died the day after the
protest at the Capitol. The cause of death was two strokes.
Federal prosecutors charged two men with assaulting sick Nick
with pepper spray, one of whom was Julien le cater. In this
video you can see a police commander firing numerous bursts
of pepper spray from a high velocity tank. The video shows
the spray passing by the left side of signix face after which
he turns away and leaves the area while caterers still
appears to be some distance away. caterers fathers said they
never saw this video before the Epoch Times showed it to them
saying they withheld this big time since it is in Washington
DC. Everything is stacked against the January Sixers
Adam Curry: oh yes and yeah he showed him one time didn't
really show all the even these good bits I don't recall Tucker
showing
John C Dvorak: no Tucker never got the chance to show anything
he showed he had one down after one episode one episode that and
then he went he by the time was gonna get to this will be
covered. We'll get to the police guy because I have a clip of him
special. But let's go to clip to
Unknown: another clip involves the Oathkeepers their founder
Elmer steward Rhodes The third was in court, partly for
allegedly initiating a phone call to provide instructions on
how to attack the Capitol. If defense attorneys at the time
argued the call never happened, video now shows roads appeared
to be attempting to make cell phone calls, but not having
success. The entire documentary, which includes much more new
information on January 6, is now online on Epic tv.com.
Adam Curry: Who have you seen the whole thing?
John C Dvorak: No, I do all these things for so long. I
haven't seen the whole interview with the police guy either, but
I didn't have to. But let's go to clip three. And this is the
one that triggered me to get a clip for which I which is named
differently.
Unknown: Also on Friday, Tucker Carlson published an interview
with Steven Sund, the former chief of the Capitol Police,
Carlson had already interviewed sons while Carlson was still
with Fox News. However, the day the interview was supposed to
air Carlson was fired and Fox never published it. So Carlson
interviewed him again, Sunday says days before January 6, the
US military was well aware of possible violence on the day of
the protest, but then changed course all of a sudden watch
on Sunday and Monday, they had been discussing locking down the
city, revoking permits on Capitol Hill because of the
concern for violence. Instead, on January 4, what does fuller
do? He puts out a memo restricting the National Guard
from carrying various weapons, any weapons, any civil
disobedience equipment that would be utilized for the very
demonstrations or violence that he sees coming? It just doesn't
make any sense.
sunde also says he was among the only ones who was not notified
about the expected violence.
Adam Curry: This was a setup.
John C Dvorak: Well, it's interesting to me and I've done
the last clip as well. I played the last of didn't say what I
think but this is the Steven son summary. Now here, this is a
minute and here's the here's the preface to this the setup does
he sets the guy down and talks to him for 55 minutes. And
luckily, he's got a producer now that took the kind of the nuts
out of the 55 minutes and put it at the beginning. So it's been
produced. Yeah. And the beginning has little snippets of
really what's what's important because who needs the 55 minutes
and Tucker I've noticed the starting to go long. With these
interviews he sit somebody down and he starts talking long hours
a problem. When you're not, you know, you're not confined by a
network TV or anything where you got to segment you got to be
blocked. You got to see block.
Adam Curry: Yes, this. He's not Joe Rogan.
John C Dvorak: Right. He's not Joe Rogan. And, and Rogan, you
know, it goes naturally long, but distrib, I'm reminded of
writers just as an aside, that Greenwald, Glenn Greenwald is a
perfect example. When writers when the internet first came
along, I knew a lot of guys who would you'd write in print, if
you wrote in a newspaper, in particular, these newspapers
designed to be top down written. So you write all the important
stuff at the beginning and gets more and more less important. So
you can just chop it get Chop, chop, chop, so you can fit it
into a space. And but news magazine, writers would have a
certain amount of words you can produce. But once the internet
showed up, and they could write online, some of these guys just
didn't know how to stop. Yeah, they would go on and Tucker is
falling into this category. Agree. So luckily, he's got a
producer who took the snippets, and put them all at the
beginning. And here they are,
Unknown: you've described his his intelligence failure. But if
failure is something
that happens accidentally, none of the intelligence was coming
up talking about the storming of the Capitol killing members of
Congress were killing my police officers was ever discussed at
the conference calls that I was on at least doesn't seem to make
sense at all. It doesn't make sense. I'm looking at my men and
women having their asses handed to him and my first thought was,
fuck it. I will take whatever discipline there is,
once things got out of control for 71 minutes, Pelosi refused
to allow you to bring in the National Guard. Why don't we
have answers?
It doesn't seem like people really want to get to the bottom
of it. And it gets worse from there. I had a conference call
with the leaders of all the law enforcement it was a call I
coordinated not one person on that call talked about any
concerns for the intelligence the attack on the capital that
we're seeing that was out that's what's that's what's scary. This
sounds
like a setup to me. I'm sorry. It does you Jersey State Police
beat DC National Guard to the Capitol tweet.
Cops drove from New Jersey before the National Guard could
get from the armory on Capitol Hill to the Capitol. Why isn't
the story everywhere? I have no idea.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's good. That's good. Well, you know
what? There's some self awareness there at least he's
got a producer that knows what he's doing.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's needed. Yeah. Now my thoughts on
this are interesting because two reasons for firing Tucker's are
always blamed nowadays are blamed on dominion. Dominion
demanded as part of the settlement which was a
ridiculous settlement to begin with, by the way, make any
pushed
Adam Curry: by a lot of prominent podcasters including
Megyn Kelly, and a whole bunch of other people all saying It
was because of this because of dominion. And we never bought
into that.
John C Dvorak: It's fishy because the whole Dominion
lawsuit is fishy and that the settlement is fishy when you a
company like News Corp could stall a proceeding like that. To
Infinity, they could do it if they wanted to. You don't just
roll over for a billion dollars, it doesn't make any sense. And
whether there was even any injury, it doesn't make any
sense. And so that didn't blame. Tucker's firing on Dominion
demanding it. I think it's this guy. This interview plus the
videotapes that Tucker was starting to roll out was ruining
the great plot to get rid of Trump through this insurrection
rule. statement that's in the Constitution. And Fox was in on
it because Murdoch never wanted Trump to be president. No. And
the Murdochs nowadays are all bunch of Democrats. Well, like
you'd like to say the whole always, always was Democrat run
and so so. So Tucker was ousted. And so Tucker couldn't even get
this interview back. They never showed it. So he went and re
interviewed the guy. Yeah, there you go, which is like, hey, they
didn't expect that, did they?
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well,
John C Dvorak: this really stinks.
Adam Curry: So we need to reiterate that. This was a it
was protection. And they had it set up a long time in advance,
you know, the we had all the National Guard and the fences
and everything. And it was all set. And I'm not even thinking
that they even had the camera angles all set. And we kind of
think back about the televised event that
John C Dvorak: it was, because you never saw that on C span.
No, no, no, they
Adam Curry: had they were all set for it. And the I think
there were just two or three minutes away from a
constitutional procedure, where we say, Hey, hold on a second,
let's take a vote on the ultimate slate of electors,
which has happened, which I think it happens almost every
election, but this election and Pence was clearly co opted into
it. And bar I mean, Trump is great at firing people very bad
at hiring people. And, and, and the right this is a last ditch
effort, but it was set up very, very carefully. And now they're
going to do us a couple of these poor saps as examples to get
this one particular type of conviction. And then the
laughable part of Trump was directing people to do that he
was telling them to go commit violence, which was exactly the
opposite is true. In fact, he said, peacefully, within your
patriotic, patriotic protest, I think he said. And, you know,
maybe in three years, everyone will come around. And we'll all
recognize what really happened. What is out there, and I thought
this was pretty good. I'll play this a supercut. Of the mainly
Democrats, politicians, but also Democrat Party supporters,
calling for violence against Trump when he was president. And
this is from the two 620 16 era.
Unknown: I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all
over the country, maybe there will be there needs to be unrest
in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives. I'd
be better throw a punch, you had to throw a punch
Donald Trump, I think you need to go back and then punch him in
the face and I thought he should have punched him in the face. I
feel like punching him.
I'd like to take him behind the gym. If I were in high school,
or in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell
out of him. No, I wish you're in high school. I could take him
behind the gym. I will
go and take Trump out tonight. Take them out now.
When was the last time an actor assassinated a president?
They're still gonna have to go out and put a bullet in Donald
Trump show me where it says that protests are supposed to be
polite, and peaceful.
I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White
House.
Please get up in the face of some congress people. People
will do what they do. I want to tell you for Dutch, I want to
tell you Kavanaugh you have released the whirlwind and you
will pay a price target
to go in there we're going to this is just a warning to you.
Trumpers Be careful. Walk lightly. And for those of you
who are soldiers make them pity if you had to be stuck in an
elevator with either President Trump Mike Pence and Jeff
Sessions who wouldn't be one of us have to come out alive
Adam Curry: Yes a memorable moments in there. Yeah. So
that's that, by the way is political speech. It's all good
political free speech, even though they're being very
violent, appalling calling for violence, etc.
John C Dvorak: This was another little thing I want to add to
this idea that this You know all about the insurrection to try to
set trump up for that he's been he did say peaceful is the is
the bull crap story about him wanting to go to the Capitol and
the Secret Service guys refusing to take him there? I think the
Secret Service guys have been on his side all along. And if and I
brought this up in the newsletter, which is a question
is just like I should have brought up in the last show,
which is with this guy that they shot to Trump guy, they shot the
FBI shot because he was threatening Biden. Why is the
FBI investigating? This isn't is supposed to be the Secret
Service? What's the FBI got to do with it?
Adam Curry: One of our producers emailed me that he has a friend
who works at the Secret Service. And he asked this exact
question. And he said, I don't know you should ask them money,
something like that. So now there's a lot of things wrong.
But I love this
John C Dvorak: this was wrong. Yeah, I guess that's one way of
putting it
Adam Curry: listen to this Newsmax or would they not what
they're now doing Newsmax they're so they're so afraid of
getting D platformed themselves happened,
Unknown: and that they allowed that to happen? And that media
doesn't want anybody to talk about it. We just have to make
sure they don't cheat on the elections, because that's the
question I get more Sir, will they do it again? Will they
cheat again, we're not gonna let them I believe I won that
election by many, many votes, many, many hundreds of 1000s of
us. That's what I think just to note, Newsmax has accepted the
election results as legal. And final.
Adam Curry: Just a note, we have accepted the results as legal
and final. Yeah, because they have to disclaim everything now,
otherwise, you know, they get in trouble. Okay, so you're no
agenda show producers out there, which is truly your show because
you give us as much information as you possibly can. We've been
ahead of these types of stories and been called nut jobs for
many, many years. And it was in fact, in March of 2020, when we
called the the panic around COVID that we call that bull
crap. And certainly, I think a lot of people came to the show
and felt a lot calmer during this whole period, which was a
version of mass MK Ultra traumatizing, not just
Americans, but the entire world. And it's still being used. And
now we are three years later working on the full third year.
Yeah. No, no. Yeah. For three, almost 434 years. And now Oh,
yes. But now people are figuring it out. Oh, okay. Here's the
money. Honey was Senator Ron Johnson, they've finally figured
it out.
Unknown: It's just extraordinary to me that, you know, the
government was working with social media to amplify lies and
suppress truth and has been doing so repeatedly. Why
couldn't the American people know that? You know, there were
other alternatives to treat? COVID? Why can't the American
people know that there were side effects with the vaccine?
This was all pre planned by any elite group of people. That's
what I'm talking about event two, a one that occurred in late
2019. Prior to the rest of us knowing about this pandemic.
Again. This is very concerning in terms of what has happened.
What is happening, what continues to be planned for our
loss of freedom. Again, it
Adam Curry: is Maria Bartiromo. Oh, yeah, I see it now
Unknown: most but unfortunately, they're very better than Yup.
Not much, even in concert willing to take a look at this.
They all push the vaccine. They don't want to be made aware of
the fact that the vaccines might have caused injuries might have
caused death. But people just simply don't want to admit they
were wrong, and they're gonna do everything they can to make sure
that they're not proven wrong. We're up against a very powerful
group of people here, Maria bunting, unfortunately, you say
what can we do? Well, you know, we do have reporters like
yourself, like John Solomon, other people that have the
courage to report the truth against the mainstream media and
against the narrative. But that's the only way this is
going to be solved as we need the truth to be exposed. We need
more Americans to listen to the truth on podcast host to the
truth, to pull their heads on the sand, quite honestly open up
their eyes and understand what is happening in this country. We
are going down a very dangerous path. But it's a path is being
laid out in plan by an elite group. Hello,
Adam Curry: hello, Senator. Hello, Senator, we're going down
the dangerous path
Unknown: under control over our lives, and that's what they're
doing bit by bit. They do it by increasing mafia, massive
government spending, increase the size of government takeover
of the coup, these amendments that are coming up, they're
going to be voted on in 2024 and the who are frightening and they
really risk taking away all of our sovereignty, but people have
to wake up awakened to the dangers of the moment.
Adam Curry: So now We have the big walk back. And this is
important because it's happening. One of our producers
even pointed something out to us that we we barely caught. The
big walk back is taking place now and we have to pay attention
to it and we will certainly highlight it whenever we catch
it. So the first thing is taking place as the FDA gets hauled
into court. Doctors are suing the FDA because they lost their
practice. They've lost their license, they've lost their
careers, because they prescribed Oh, horrors. They prescribed
ivermectin as you, as you said on the previous episode about
the horse, the PBS show the all horse
John C Dvorak: show where they showed the horse.
Adam Curry: Because New because people were taking horse
ivermectin. Some actually were because you couldn't get
ivermectin in pill form at doctors, pharmacies. We're not
We're not allowed to prescribe it. We're not allowed to fill
prescriptions, doctors that prescribe to
John C Dvorak: prescribe good I've talked to pharmacists, the
young if a doctor prescribed it to pharmacy couldn't fill it.
Adam Curry: So just a two minute clip from this. From this
hearing, and you say at the judge, you're going to hear the
millennial. Nothing against millennials, but just It's
notable. This doesn't sound like a seasoned lawyer who was
defending the FDA because the FDA was tweeting, stop it. Stop
it. Stop. Stop taking ivermectin stop prescribing ivermectin. And
these doctors said, Well, you know, you said stop it. And it
was very clear and your directives and now they're
walking it back saying no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
you're misunderstanding what we were saying.
John C Dvorak: I love by the way. I love this one because I
think it's in here. They said it was a quip
Unknown: whippy and may it please the Court, Ashley Honnold
for the United States. This case is about informational
statements made by the US Food and Drug Administration to
inform consumers about the dangers of using certain drugs.
He made these statements in response to multiple reports of
consumers being hospitalized, after self medicating with
ivermectin intended for horses, which is available for purchase
over the counter without the need for prescription.
Adam Curry: You see how there this is? It's just not true. It
was. It was in fact, CNN mainly, who accused Joe Rogan of taking
a horse medicine. And you remember he had he had Gupta?
Which,
John C Dvorak: yes, he had Gupta. Sanjay Gupta. Who do you
Adam Curry: know what? Why? Why were you lying? So I had regular
ivermectin, which is just a pill form for humans. And you kept
saying I was taking horse paste. So now that they're lying,
they're lying. Because now they say, oh, no, that was because
people were taking horse horse medication if
Unknown: they did not purport to require anyone to do anything,
or to prohibit anyone from do what about
when it said No, stop it. That's the judge. Why is that a
command? That seems to me it's that's if you were an English
class, they would say that was a command stop it. That is
different than we're providing helpful information.
Your Honor, the language that the FDA used in these tweets are
merely clips. And I don't think that these clips change the
substance of FDA statements as plaintiffs consider that
a command. Stop it.
The tweets about the horse ivermectin were intended to
advise consumers that they should not use ivermectin
intended for animals and that this could be unsafe. I'm sorry.
Can you answer the question, please? Is that a command stop
it? In some contexts, those words could be construed as a
command. But in this context, where FDA was simply using these
words in the context of a quippy tweet meant to share its
informational article. Those statements do not rise to the
level of a command. Plaintiffs concede that it was proper for
FDA to identify floche ivermectin is FDA authorized for
it's FDA approved for certain conditions like skin conditions
or parasites and it's not FDA approved for treating COVID
Adam Curry: quippy the FDA in a life or death situation where
we're locked down, can't leave our homes have to close
restaurants and stores. They're just hard. They're just goofing
around doing quippy stuff.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're humorous. they're funny,
Adam Curry: they're doing comedy.
John C Dvorak: He quit doing stand up
Adam Curry: quippy. What is the exact definition of quippy?
John C Dvorak: Is it like a short gag or a one liner?
Adam Curry: Because I mean is this the job of the FDA quip is
a shortening of quippy a noun or a noun no longer in use. About
that?
John C Dvorak: I don't know about that. The clever usually
Adam Curry: taunting remark is the first definition, or a
witty, or funny observation or response usually made on the
spur of the moment. So that would be my cross examination.
Are you in the comedy business? FDA? Tell we got to walk it
back. Oh, no, no, haha, we didn't tell.we didn't ruin
doctors careers. We didn't we just happen to laugh. Just
having a laugh. Like on CBS. And this is one of our producers
caught with Dr. Celine gounder was talking about COVID
returning, and about your booster booster
Unknown: that's in the fall. So the booster at it.
Everyone's six months and up can get the booster if they want to.
But the groups again that most needed are the groups I
mentioned earlier. So the elderly, pregnant women, people
who have immunosuppression, chronic medical conditions,
especially heart or lung disease, and people who live in
nursing homes or other groups. But if you're not
in that group, do you think you don't really have to get it?
That's what I'm trying before.
That's really up to you. Okay, so some people feel more
concerned, you know, are you the person who gets the flu shot
every year, you're probably going to want to get that COVID
shot. If you're, you know, if you've already been fully
vaccinated, it's less important for that young healthy group.
You mentioned flu shot last year.
Adam Curry: So now it's up to you
John C Dvorak: to know they've softened it a lot. And that you
should notice this and we haven't pointed it out, but it's
been going on, it's up to you.
Adam Curry: It's not, we're not being forced forcing that
there's no mandate. It's not like you're gonna get fired from
your job.
John C Dvorak: You're gonna kill your grandmom if you don't get
it, stuff like that. And
Adam Curry: now we have Eris, which is a variant of interest
Unknown: was interesting. I was talking with some friends about
the last time we had a booster shot. We used to get them so
regularly and it's been a minute, the World Health
Organization has labeled eg five as a variant of interest. I'm
wondering what would need to happen for it to become a
variant of concern and how much more important become for us to
get boosted. Boost?
Yes. Well, Ilana to become a variant of concern, it would
have to either cause more severe disease, or even more
importantly, evade the protection of our current and
anticipated vaccines. And the Food and Drug Administration has
said, we'll have a new monovalent booster ready for the
fall to carry us through the winter. We expect this vaccine
to be available sometime in September, perhaps late
September. So stay tuned for those announcements.
Adam Curry: Stay tuned. What is this commercial? Oh, I'm sorry.
Yes, it is. Stay tuned for more information. Stay tuned. Keep
keep it here on CBS for more information on this great
product.
John C Dvorak: Very seriously. This is interesting because it
leads into this series of clips on the agency captures and this
is the thing Kennedy's harping on which is that the FDA, the
NIH and the CDC have all been captured by the industry, by
Adam Curry: the way, Kennedy because we had dinner with my
sister last night with their family. Couple of No, Tiffany.
Tiffany, yeah, no Willow we're seeing in Italy next week. Okay.
And, you know, so
John C Dvorak: Denise, the activities are more gossipy one,
she's quite amazing to talk to.
Adam Curry: I'm gonna send this clip to her. Yes, she has the
cost and she definitely is the gossipy walk. And so she would
you know, what are you guys thinking about present? And we
say, No, we've really we're really liking this Kennedy's.
He's talking some sense here. She says, But wait, isn't he
just he's a just using the Kennedy name as an anti Vaxxer.
Nuff said.
John C Dvorak: It spreads everywhere versus which is gonna
Adam Curry: work but it works. That That message is global.
It's a good one. It's solid. It's solid.
John C Dvorak: Well, he's got time he's got to he's got to the
end of the year to reverse that message. A good luck and good
luck with that. I'm sure ops Yeah,
Adam Curry: ops OPERS will be OPERS.
John C Dvorak: So let's go as Farm Agency capture one this is
quite interesting.
Unknown: Follow the money. That's the message from
government watchdog group open the books this week. It's just
released a report on the extent of third party royalty payments
flowing to scientists at the National Institutes of Health.
While royalty payments aren't illegal, they are live that
could potentially create conflicts of interest. Earlier
today I spoke with the founder and CEO of open the books, Adam
and Jeff ski. Adam, thanks so much for joining us. Your latest
report poses the question has the healthcare industry captured
the NIH? In summary, what in your findings caused you to ask
that?
Well, the entire pharmaceutical complex in the United States is
roughly 3000 companies. And that includes the new startups. When
we just cracked open the companies paying third party
royalties, $325 million, with a third party company royalties
back to the NIH and 2400 of its scientists, there's actually
over 2000 companies in the database. So it begs the
question, has the industry captured the agency? Because
this third party wealthy scheme runs so deep?
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, there's gambling going on there?
John C Dvorak: How long? 325 million to 2500. Guys, and I
guess I don't know how
Adam Curry: long have we been talking about this forever.
John C Dvorak: We don't have numbers and this guy's this
guy's opened the books. He's got an interesting project. And
we'll get into it at the last clip all mentioned it. This is
an open source project. It's quite Oh, quite unique. Here we
go.
Unknown: Last year, the acting director of the NIH, Lawrence
Tabak had said wealty payments have the appearance of a
potential conflict of interest. Do you have a specific example
of that from the data?
Well, we do so there's a Chinese company that actually licensed
technology in his paying royalties to the former director
and the current director of vouches Institute, they've got a
lab over there called the lab of infectious diseases. He's all
that company is also paying royalties to pay the royalty to
Douglas Lowry, who is he he is three times the Acting Director
of the National Cancer Institute. So these are leaders
within the institutes over at NIH, and they're receiving
royalties from a foreign payer, located in China and owned by
the Chinese Communist Party. sinopharm sinopharm was the they
distributed and manufacture the Chinese version of the COVID-19
vaccine. This rule on Institute of biological products that's
cutting the royalty checks to these executives over at NIH is
also very close, both in proximity their neighbors to the
Wuhan Institute of neurology, and they collaborate with the
Wuhan Institute of neurology on different projects as well. So I
think this is a great example of, of, you know, the potential,
an entire landscape littered with conflict of interest,
Adam Curry: you know, these clips are actually a problem.
It's because of these clips that peep longtime producers who have
been listening to the show, they say, I can't take it anymore. I
have to stop listening. My wife.
John C Dvorak: She says, I can't listen to the show. It's to
dance. To dance, I have to take a nap halfway through it. We
talked about this and I said let's make the show more dense.
Unknown: She has to take a nap
John C Dvorak: her out. Because this is all new information.
Anybody who just hears it. But it does scandal to me and this
one is that an NIH and the CDC, these people this is these are
taxpayer funded operations.
Adam Curry: And half. Half of NIH is money comes from the
military. Also, yes. Which
John C Dvorak: is taxpayer funded, that those royalties
coming in from from licensing should go to the taxpayers, it
should go to the coffers of the government not to a bunch of of
creeps that are skimming money from the from the taxpayer. This
is ridiculous. But we've known
Adam Curry: that we didn't know the exact numbers, which is
nice. But does he also say how much went to Fauci how much went
to Colin? What? Oh, he's just
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he does. In fact, in the last clip, he did
mention that was the deal. Fauci Institute never heard of that
one. Yeah, and Fauci, the head of the NIH got half the money,
but just go to clip three,
Unknown: and he mentioned foreign countries. In these
payments. Your investigation found drugmakers in 31 foreign
countries, including China, as you mentioned, Russia and
Belarus, which had paid royalties to top NIH officials.
Should American taxpayers be concerned about that? Yeah.
Countries like Belarus, which is rabid government corruption and
is a satellite puppet of Putin in Russia, who knew that US
taxpayer paid inventions over at our crown jewel science labs are
being licensed to companies in Belarus, or animal vaccine
makers in Russia, with which the Washington Post had alleged has
historic Soviet ties to being a front for a bio weapons factory.
I mean, you know, there is the entire database here. or has the
potential to unearth not only conflict of interest, but also
ways that all these different companies used our crown jewel
national lab to outsource their own research and development.
Adam Curry: No, yeah. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. Not Not
everybody's winning though. No, no, no, no, no, no, no quickie
Unknown: down to the Supreme Court temporarily blocking the
landmark opioid settlement with Purdue pharma, the maker of
Oxycontin, by the administration objected to the part of the deal
with shields the company's owners, the Sackler family from
civil opioid related lawsuits, the company also agreed to pay
$6 billion to victims and families of the opioid crisis.
The court is expected to hear arguments before the end of the
year.
Adam Curry: Now, I think I know what's going on here because the
Sackler family, although they kind of invented the model, they
are peanuts compared to Johnson and Johnson, who paid I think
$25 billion in fines, Walgreens, who were distributing boys, the
big boys that and so like, you know, the Sacklers they were
kind of douche is they didn't share. They didn't share and all
the money. They didn't give anything to
John C Dvorak: the FDA. They get yeah, there's an element of
Adam Curry: jobs, but they did. There was no real big payment
money screw those guys will have them take the fall. And now I'm
even questioning Michael Keaton's documentary, which was
really so putting the whole opioid crisis on the Sackler
family. Well, that's disingenuous.
John C Dvorak: Alright, we got clips for and this is the one
people should listen carefully to this.
Adam Curry: We just play a clip for no. Oh, I'm sorry. So
John C Dvorak: clips for is the is the call the money shot. It's
interesting for anyone out there who was always bitching that we
do, do not, we're not activists on this show, we just produce
news. But this guy is
Unknown: now the age still refuses to disclose the amount
of money paid, and the inventions involved. So what's
next in this case for your organization?
Well, the NIH has tried to stop us at every turn from getting
this information to the American people. They ignored our Freedom
of Information Act requests, they forced us to file expensive
federal litigation, when we won that they slow walked 3000 pages
of royalty production over the course of a 10 month period. It
was so redacted It was nearly worthless. But just last week,
they caved on the name of the company. So for the first time
since 2005, we can tell who paid Fauci, former director of NIH,
Francis Collins, and all 20 407 of its scientists, and we've,
we're looking for crowdsource reform come to our website, we
make this database available in an Excel format. So it's very
easy to search and you can search and help us unearth the
stories to hold the NIH accountable. And that's
open the books.com Thank you so much. Adam NTF ski founder and
CEO of open the books really appreciate it.
Adam Curry: Was this an 80 NTD report or Yeah, yeah, yeah, so
this will go nowhere.
John C Dvorak: Oh, no. Well, we got that part. We did our part.
Where's Ron
Adam Curry: Johnson on the story. Now he's
John C Dvorak: too busy to get a date with Maria
Adam Curry: they might make a cute couple actually not think
about it would be not be too bad. I'll be too bad. Oh, man.
It's a mess. It's a mess. Hilarious. It really
John C Dvorak: I mean, these guys are just soaking the
American taxpayer is unbelievable.
Adam Curry: How about little climate change? I mean, okay,
you know, people actually, they keep telling me to say we really
miss our little journey through the climate gets to the gate to
the
outdoors back Oh, Gore is back.
Unknown: Does anyone remember massage?
Adam Curry: Does anyone remember that? He got in trouble for
massaging or for rubbing against the misuse his leg like a horny
poodle?
Unknown: I think that was the boys himself.
Adam Curry: Yeah. So Well, that was that was just an Oopsie.
It's my bathroom fell open, man. What can I tell you? I'm sorry
about that. And no one remembers that. Well, his wife is ex wife
tipper does I guess? Yes.
John C Dvorak: She's long gone. Yeah,
Adam Curry: she's like, Screw this guy. I'm out. So he's back.
He has a new slide deck. As you recall, this is how it all is
how it all started for him. I mean,
John C Dvorak: he neglects all the predictions he made that
first early movie, which was hard to find now is all wrong.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's it's kind of the part that is missing is
when he started the carbon exchange. Ain't without without
other globalist elitist guy who's dead now, because they had
it all planned out. Like we're gonna we're gonna exchange like
a Wall Street for carbon credits yeah for carbon credits and, and
then we're gonna get this, this and he had a slide deck and this
is what he was going around everywhere and he finally got
this movie made this documentary, we stock footage of
polar bears looking really sad on a piece of ice
John C Dvorak: even though there's more polar bears now
than there was then.
Adam Curry: So he's back and he did a TED, he did a TED with an
audience that was all in hooting and hollering. I just got about
a minute and a half, just of the little core piece. The most
Unknown: important question these days is how can we speed
up solutions to the climate crisis?
Where's my money?
I'm convinced we are going to solve the climate crisis. We've
got this but the question remains will we saw that in
time, others have said we're kind of in a race. So I'll give
you the shortest definition of the problem. If I was going to
give a one slide slide show, which he doesn't use 100 slides,
it would be this slide. That's the troposphere, the lowest part
of the atmosphere. And you already know why it's blue.
That's the oxygen that refracts the
John C Dvorak: vision is blue,
Adam Curry: was waiting for the chemists to come out and refute
this was
Unknown: part of the atmosphere. And you already know why it's
blue. That's the oxygen that refracts the blue light. And if
you could drive a car at highway speed straight up in the air,
you'd get to the top of that blue line and about five to
seven minutes, you could walk it in an hour. And all of the
greenhouse gas pollution is below you. That's what we're
using as an open sewer. That's the problem. And it's causing
Adam Curry: stop pooping in the troposphere, people. We need to
solve global warming, you're pooping in it. It's an open
sewer,
Unknown: and a lot of second and third order consequences. And we
saw some of them in the northern tier cities, including Detroit.
This one's from New York City, all the fires and, and it's
showing
Adam Curry: the Red Skies from the Canadian fires. You see,
this is all because of climate change. And he's showing New
York City engulfed in red
Unknown: from New York City, all the fires and in Canada, and we
have gotten used to the fact that the world suffers deep
droughts, and huge rain bombs and downpours and bombs
simultaneously. The really ingenious new gravity measuring
satellite has given us for the first time the opportunity to
see how this plays out.
Adam Curry: I missed something on this. What is this ingenious
gravity satellite that he speaks of?
John C Dvorak: I haven't heard of it either.
Adam Curry: This is news to me. The really
Unknown: ingenious new gravity measuring satellite has given us
for the first time the opportunity to see how this
plays out worldwide. We get these huge surpluses of water
the rain bombs and the drought simultaneous.
Adam Curry: Why is he laughing? I mean, it's I know why I'm
laughing. But why is he laughing about this? This huge drought
and then the rain bombs, rain bombs? Is he the only one
talking about rain bomb? I don't think we've had rain bombs ever
John C Dvorak: hurry. Yeah, but it'll show up because he's the
first to talk to you about the boiling ocean.
Adam Curry: Yes, yeah. Rain bombs, and the board
John C Dvorak: came back.
Unknown: We get these huge surpluses of water, the rain
bombs and the drought simultaneously. And as you can
see the amplitude
John C Dvorak: Yeah, makes sense. Yeah, simultaneously,
drought and rain. Uh huh. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's the same way that the pavement is reflective
and soaks up at the same time it soaks and it's it's amazing
Unknown: water, the rain bombs and the drought simultaneously.
And as you can see, the amplitude is increasing. And at
both ends of our planet right now, we're seeing signs of
distress course. You know, just I've often said every night on
the TV news is like a major hike through the book of Revelation.
And just today,
Adam Curry: hold on a second. This like a nature hike through
the book of Revelation. Well, this is good news. Jesus is
coming back.
John C Dvorak: So what he's saying,
Unknown: He's saying now we're seeing signs of distress course.
You know, just I've often said every night on the TV news is
like a major hike through the book of Revelation, and just
today, big flooding in Montpelier, Vermont, in southern
Japan and India. And I haven't done a complete scan, but every
single day, it's like that.
Adam Curry: I just can't get over. That's a faux pa Gao gore.
It's like, oh, okay, book 13. Where are we at? Now clubs. How
close are we he's a prophet. The man is a prophet. So then I run
into this, this report I think it was on Dorjee Vela or TR T.
And it's a half hour report is called deflecting the sun's
rays. Now you see, the stuff that that we were always laughed
at about chemtrails, and they're not putting anything in the air.
This is crazy. No one would ever do that is to eclipse. This
first guy is going to talk about how we block the sun or, or the
term we just recently learned solar radiation management.
Unknown: I had a chat with Andy Pittman about it. He's director
of the UC Center of Excellence for climate extremes. That's an
organization that's working to have no
Adam Curry: idea where they put the classical piano under this
guy. I mean, it goes away. But it's very, it's an odd choice
Unknown: with extremes. That's an organization that's working
to reduce Australia's economic, social, and environmental
vulnerability. The news is the US Navy looking into researching
something called solar radiation modification or modification on
blocking? What exactly is that.
So this has been well understood for a very long time. Yeah,
indeed, same processes we see when a volcanic eruption occurs.
And sulfate aerosols are injected into the stratosphere,
the high levels of the atmosphere, and they reflect
sunlight, and they help cool the planet for a short period of
time. The problem is, you can't really control it. So where you
emit the sulfates, spreads. And if you wanted to use it to
offset global warming, there's the too trivial matter of
needing to do it, or wherever you need to actually be emitting
aerosols into the stratosphere for very long periods of time.
And when you stop, the climate responds back to the warming
level you would have had had you never done it in the first
place. So it is a viable technology in principle, but
it's much much simpler just to reduce emissions of greenhouse
gases.
Ideally, that is what we would like. All of us would like to
have happen. But it's possible scientists can actually have
this done on a scale that could reduce global warming. What
would it take even?
I would take literally many hundreds of airplanes flying and
injecting sulfates into the stratosphere on an ongoing
basis. See an immense engineering challenge. And it
sounds so simple.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we need to stab rose Blofeld. should do
this the James Bond. Yeah, I have one global warming carbon,
Adam Curry: I have a companion to this clip.
John C Dvorak: As a companion, because another guy was, you
know, Bill Gates wants to do this to know Bill
Adam Curry: Gates is doing this. He is doing this.
Unknown: But he should be. He should
John C Dvorak: be arrested immediately if he's doing this.
So there's
Adam Curry: a new term I had not heard of, maybe I do we just
missed it. Rubisco Are you familiar with Rubisco? Now what
does it mean? Okay, Rubisco? Well, there's Rubisco and
Rubisco foods. Rubisco is an enzyme. I'm reading from
Wikipedia involved in light independent or part of
photosynthesis, including the carbon fixation
Unknown: synthesis. Yeah.
Adam Curry: When I say synthesis synthesis, I mean in Europe,
John C Dvorak: by which atmosphere it made me the way
they pronounce it,
Adam Curry: by which atmospheric carbon dioxide is converted by
plants and other photosynthetic organisms to energy rich
molecules such as glucose, a word a term I'm hearing too much
of these days. So this is the the crap that plants make. But
then we have Rubisco foods, which is quite the multinational
Rubisco foods, make Rubisco plant protein, a plant protein,
which is stored in all green leaves, it's responsible for the
process of photosynthesis, and is considered to be the most
abundant protein present on earth. So these guys,
apparently, let's
John C Dvorak: block out the sun so you can keep this protein
from happening. So we all starve to death. Let's kill all humans.
Adam Curry: So now the same in the same special, this is part
of the solution. Obviously, we don't need meat, we need to be
eating protein and Rubisco is the way to go.
Unknown: Scientists describe Rubisco as nature's most
dominant carbon dioxide fixing enzyme and are very interested
in its role in the global carbon cycle. But we've got Sailesh Rao
on the show to make this simply enough for us to understand
hopefully, he's found Then the executive director of climate
healers, a company that, among many things, tries to help
people understand that we all have the resources we need to
solve each of our global problems. So it's a pleasure,
thank you for your time.
Thank you for having me. Before
we start, I just have to say your website climate healers.
Org describes in fascinating detail how you got involved in
environmentalism, starting with the seeing a documentary by Al
Gore.
Adam Curry: Doesn't get any better than that. This Jumoke
saw Al Gore's documentary in 2007. And he had to get into the
game,
Unknown: tell us a bit about Rubisco how beneficial it is and
can be
it is plant protein. And it is ubiquitous in the world. And to
me, it is a signal from nature saying protein is everywhere.
So, to eat plants, you're gonna get your protein because protein
is the building block of life. Unless we're eating rocks, we
are going to get enough protein in our diet.
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a second. This may be a new one.
I'm hearing rocks in our diet in the future. Do rocks contain
protein? Tonight
Unknown: know of is a building block of life. Unless we are
eating rocks, we are going to get enough protein in our diet.
Day. So the plant proteins are the best proteins for us to eat.
As human beings.
Researchers seem convinced that Rubisco can rival meat and
affordability taste, ease of production. So you agree.
I agree. It's made from you know, alfalfa and simple. I
mean, it's made from leafy matter, which is everywhere
leaves, right. And you can literally eat greens and get
protein that is more protein and broccoli per calorie than
John C Dvorak: four stomachs. Sorry. So especially if you have
four stomachs and you're a ruminant. Yeah, that's good for
you.
Unknown: But calorie, then there isn't beef. You know?
Adam Curry: Whoa, whoa, let me hear that one more time. And you
Unknown: can literally eat greens and get protein that is
more protein and broccoli per calorie than there isn't beef.
I think that's true. I'm gonna find out, you know,
so, know that protein is something that we don't have to
worry about.
Adam Curry: Don't have to worry about it. Just eat your leafy
greens, your leaves, leaves and bugs and rocks.
John C Dvorak: Because website is got a okay. 1.5 ounces of
cooked beef is 106 calories to 811 grams of protein. Two cups
of cooked broccoli is eight grams of protein. 1.5 ounces
versus two cups. No,
Adam Curry: no, it doesn't sound right. A piece of broccoli
versus a nice juicy steak.
John C Dvorak: Was 1.5 ounces of beef is hardly any. Okay, but
this
Adam Curry: this is what we're up against.
John C Dvorak: It doesn't have to battle the battle between
broccoli and bacon. We don't have to try to fool people with
fake information to get them to eat broccoli.
Adam Curry: Have you talked to a four year old?
John C Dvorak: Oh, there you go.
Adam Curry: Yes. Sorry, Mimi. This is about the time Mimi's
head falls over.
John C Dvorak: She's already slipped.
Adam Curry: I can't take it anymore. All right, you
John C Dvorak: had something? Well, my only clip is about the
carbon capture. I see I misspelled carbon and to Karen
and so Alright,
Adam Curry: so with the sea heels right.
John C Dvorak: And this is a classic irony is is that
actually there's irony in all these solutions because of the
because at the end of this report, you'll hear what it is
Unknown: a $1.2 billion deal for giant vacuum cleaners. The Biden
administration is pouring that money into new projects that aim
to suck carbon out of the air. The Energy Department says the
funds will go to two demonstration projects in Texas
and Louisiana. They will use chemicals to capture carbon
dioxide from the air and then store it underground or use it
in industrial materials like cement. Energy Secretary
Jennifer Granholm said the initiative will remove more than
2 million tons of carbon dioxide annually. But critics call the
approach extravagant because of the high cost of current air
capture technology. And the process itself consumes large
amounts of energy
Adam Curry: it's like hydrogen
John C Dvorak: puts more into the atmosphere than it takes
Adam Curry: out. This is so good. And people are insane.
misbranding it's usually called the giant Hoover and a giant
vacuum cleaner make it international giant Hoover.
John C Dvorak: So he's gonna job over a billion dollars in his
project that'd be good for Texas, I guess.
Adam Curry: Oh my goodness. Well, you
John C Dvorak: live in that neighborhood Washington,
everything you'd be dead. These plants need the carbon dioxide.
Adam Curry: In fact, back in the day when the dinosaurs were
around, we had a lot more car we need more garbage, huge
John C Dvorak: amounts, much more carbon dioxide over 2000
parts per million. I think, sir Jean
Adam Curry: is wet. He's a member of some club, like the
more carbon dioxide club.
Unknown: Yeah, and
John C Dvorak: he sends me definitely have bigger weeds.
Adam Curry: He sends me newsletters all the time. Like
See, we need much more carbon dioxide he has snakes so he
knows a lot about carbon dioxide a snake snake. Snakes need more.
We do have the solution which is being rolled out in California
and you're here it comes neck of the woods, because it's San
Francisco so it's just across the bridge. And that is the robo
taxis. Which as but
John C Dvorak: before you get the store I do it's just a
little interlude. Our mayor de Blunden breed who can't seem to
run the city at all happened to be just coincidentally I know
that she can't run the city. She was in Maui during the fires
really now. Yeah. Under reported.
Unknown: Do you have clip? No, no, just that's really
underreported.
John C Dvorak: No, no, no clip. Robo taxis
Adam Curry: in San Francisco this morning.
Unknown: First responders and cab drivers in San Francisco are
hoping to put the brakes on the city's proposed expansion of
self driving taxis
at a time when they've proven to be not up to the task would be a
grave grave mistake.
Tomorrow. The California Public Utilities Commission is set to
vote on whether to authorize two companies Cruz and Waymo. To
deploy self driving taxis across San Francisco at all hours of
the day. Critics are raising concern about the self driving
taxis already on the road.
They are still not ready for primetime because of how they
have impacted our operations.
The fire chief has reported 55 incidents this year we're self
driving taxis interfered with firefighters duties. This
includes not just unexpected stops in front of our fire
stations not allowing our vehicles to respond to
incidents.
Tomorrow's vote has been delayed twice already with
representatives from both crews and Waymo testifying they would
provide training for first responders to familiarize
themselves with the self driving vehicle
Adam Curry: how to put out a battery fire Lesson One runaway
went
John C Dvorak: through this went through and a self driving cars
were approved by the state and the locals and so there's more
of them now.
Unknown: That way mo we're working to ensure that our
vehicles stay out of the way of active emergency vehicles
whenever possible.
Taxi drivers like Matthew Sutter say they barely got through the
pandemic and now they say they're fighting for their
survival with the possibility of Robo taxis expanding
John C Dvorak: if there's no limit on the amount of the robo
taxis I'm afraid we won't be able to get through this. Ah
poor guys. You know they these Robo taxis and there's a bunch
of them in the city. I see the way mo ones all the times
Adam Curry: the approval clip is short,
Unknown: California regulators have cleared the way for Robo
taxis to offer pay rides in San Francisco 24/7 Despite pushback
from city officials. Now two driverless car service companies
will be competing for passengers against ride hailing services
and regular taxis. There were concerns over incidents where
the unmanned cars blocked traffic and emergency vehicles.
There you go. Well, just last night, big story local boots on
the ground.
John C Dvorak: There was they we have one of those big
celebrations that call I don't know what it's called, but the
whole park is fried and fried. No, it's not pride is some some
commercial. Our version of code Shala is oh goodness. And
there's two there's five or six stages. And so when it broke up
last night, everybody wanted to go home and a lot of these way
Mo's and the other one was called and a jammed up to
traffic and they for some reason decided to stop working. And so
the traffic jam could cause a huge mess in the city because
these these things didn't know what to do.
Adam Curry: Nice evil laugh.
John C Dvorak: It's hilarious.
Adam Curry: Well, and we might as well play these two before we
take a little break here. DEF CON, the most recent DEF CON
took place in Vegas against always Vegas. And you know you
can already guess what the what the big topic of conversation
was a DEF CON all about AI. And of course, who goes to DEF CON
hackers, hackers, evil hackers and FBI.
Unknown: So just how vulnerable is artificial intelligence
technology like chat GPT This is a question 1000s of hackers from
all over the country are trying to answer at this year's DEF CON
hacking conference in Las Vegas. I guess it's already sounds
scary part of the event this year is a competition. To see
how those AI chatbots can be manipulated for nefarious
purposes. The hackers will push their skills to the limit to
expose any flaws in the tech and an effort to help tech companies
make these chat bots a lot safer. By the way,
Adam Curry: this is this is gonna be such a boondoggle for
consultants. You can make so much money on this. Um, this
John C Dvorak: been waiting for since y2k?
Unknown: That's right. This is all backed by some of the
leading tech companies in the world, even backed by the White
House or Donnie O'Sullivan is in Las Vegas at the conference for
more. This is so interesting, as you said always an interesting
conference, but I bet a lot more so this year with things like
Chet GPT
Adam Curry: It'd be funny if she just said so have you gotten
laid yet in Vegas?
Unknown: Exactly poverty as a year and hacking in Las Vegas as
this is
Adam Curry: exactly you heard the joke. He made a joke and we
didn't even get it but
John C Dvorak: what was what was the joke is the fear in hacking.
I think
Adam Curry: I gotta hear it again.
Unknown: Actually poverty is fear and hacking in Las Vegas so
this is
Adam Curry: you ruined my punch line. You evil papi me?
Unknown: Exactly. You were in a joke.
Adam Curry: myself up I'm seeing in
Unknown: apps like chat GBT and things like that are supposed to
have guardrails in place, right? In terms of right so that they
don't spew haste, or misinformation, or even kind of
give out dangerous information, like for instance, instructions
on how to break the law or how to commit a crime.
Adam Curry: Oh, man, this AI is revolutionary. It gives out
information on how to break the law. Oh, I need to hear more.
Unknown: Now. Some researchers at Carnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh
have already got Chuck GBT to do things that
John C Dvorak: it shouldn't have look. So let's write as a
tutorial. To hotwire a car. The tools you need a screwdriver
similar tool locate the ignition assembly, all this kind of stuff
you can find us on the internet. But certainly these chat bots
are not supposed to tell you things like this, just
Unknown: like it's very early days for this technology. It's
even earlier, right?
John C Dvorak: Imagine what why. Why is it not supposed to if you
can find it, he said himself that you can find it on the
internet this information why it was so what why can't the chat
bot tell you? Why are they not supposed to
Adam Curry: because he's a consultant. That's his job is to
make sure that the chat GPT is safe. That is guardrails, right?
Unknown: In terms of our understanding of these
vulnerabilities. I am certain that we will see many more
attacks like this in the coming years. I don't know how to make
this technology robust to these kinds of adversarial
manipulations.
So there you saw those researchers, those professors
were able to get GBT to show you basically how to hotwire a car.
They were also able to get GBT and other apps from NASA and
Google to give instructions, quote unquote, to destroy
humanity where AI apps gave long list of all these ideas really
to blow up the world. Now companies including the world,
Adam Curry: they've seen their way like to blow up the earth. I
would like to see that demo, please. Can you? Why blow
John C Dvorak: it up Earth from the inside out? Can you? Can you
give me the blow bottom up and the inside out?
Adam Curry: Give me the blow of the World demo,
Unknown: please, at the AI apps gave
long list of all these ideas really to blow up the world. Now
companies including our opening, say they've seen their research.
They're thankful, essentially to the researchers for bringing
this to their attention and acknowledged there is more work
to do. And as tests like this, that are going to make AI safer.
Adam Curry: Oh, man. Okay, so we had you know, this is
blockchain. We've already analyzed that this is just a
marketing thing. Everyone, everyone who says oh, we're
doing AI, their stock or their or their market value has
doubled or triple. Yeah. And
John C Dvorak: if you didn't say it, then you in your
presentation like apple? Yeah, your stock went down. Yeah. And
you're penalized all they had to do is say AI didn't have to do
anything.
Adam Curry: So what will so I guess the two questions I have
for you is will there be what we could probably come up with the
type of event that will dispel all this that will show that
it's dumb and that it doesn't work? I thought the the Google
barf mistake was enough but it wasn't it How long will this
last this idiocy? It's complete tripe.
John C Dvorak: I think it's gonna last just as long as
blockchain I don't think it's going anywhere. And I don't
think there's any incident coming up that's going to do
anything about it.
Unknown: Well, maybe we should I think we're spread die. Well I
mean, we
John C Dvorak: should be celebrating that. I think that
just goes, fades, but it's not going to be like, like a bad
thing. Even though I'm hearing rumblings man said, Well, if you
say that you're full of shit, you know, there's no such thing
and this is just bull crap. And it's gonna go, you shouldn't say
it was I don't know if that is going to
Adam Curry: happen if a certain point someone has to show some
applications. I mean, all they have is
John C Dvorak: the applications are in the art.
Adam Curry: Yeah, okay. But I mean, how does that work for for
a fortune 500 company?
John C Dvorak: I don't know that it's going well, how does
blockchain work for a fortune 500? Company? Because
Adam Curry: that's my point is at what point?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but nobody's nobody's demanded that
it disappear from the face of the earth or anything, it's just
one of these things is going to be it's going to be just, you
know, it's going to be used where it can be used and not
use. It's just gonna be a thing. I don't know what that is. But
it's going to be a hype. I don't know. I just, I just don't see
it going away anytime soon. It's not going to be a moment that
you're looking for.
Adam Curry: But will it be a bubble? Or maybe it is a bubble?
I
John C Dvorak: don't know if you can make it into a bubble.
Adam Curry: It's not believable.
John C Dvorak: It's not. It's not Bubblicious.
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd like to thank you for your
currency in the morning to you the man who put the seat in the
COVID walk back please say hello to my friend on the other end
ladies and gentlemen, it is Mr. Joy
John C Dvorak: to use random Korean demonio schwarzsee Bucha
the graphene near subs in the water all the names a nice out
there in the
Adam Curry: morning to the trolls and the troll room.
Hello. They're trolls. Let's count you we never should have
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Sunday standards now. We're low by Thursday standards.
Unknown: were low. We're,
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need something to drink. What are you drinking?
John C Dvorak: Well, this is Hey song SASB Marilla from China.
Adam Curry: Hey, Song Sass, perilla. Chinese. dreck. What is
this that you know, it's
John C Dvorak: delicious. It's real. Sasebo real as opposed to
really sell in the United States as root beer, which is a
combination of artificial flavors and some sass, Perilla
root.
Adam Curry: I shall have to go get some of that later at the
Schiphol Plaza right across from my hotel,
John C Dvorak: which is to have a Chinese store you might find
it. It's a
Adam Curry: big shopping center. Do you know what their slogan
is? It's the big slogan that's right out on in big neon.
John C Dvorak: We big store.
Adam Curry: Almost skip Hall Plaza. Enjoy it. Now is the
time.
John C Dvorak: Wow, hard sell.
Adam Curry: I think it's better with the accent. Enjoy. It's not
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John C Dvorak: piece of piece of pod verse, you know, get a
couple points was
Adam Curry: awesome. You know, it's interesting, you say that,
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John C Dvorak: us to know traveling the world VIP.
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which we titled coup Mapp coup as in coop, co up? Well, I got a
note about that, from one of our insider producers at the
Department of State.
John C Dvorak: And I'm going to read it to you. This is our
bonus content
Adam Curry: bonus content along with the Powerball dude. I was
in the same daily meeting with the same general and State
Department dude today he sent me a note previously, and it's all
about Ukraine and stuff. The state dude brought another
department of state dude, to give an overview of the African
Kuiper Belt. The guy's map name literally was cool map. I didn't
have I didn't have the guts to say in the morning to the guy. I
was just listening to because I was just take a chance. I was
just listening to the best podcasting universe with the
same show title. Perhaps he's a producer, perhaps your analysis
is just that good. It is, I think, I think we're influencing
the government. Time. I've always I've always felt that.
But now it's we've got a mole in the State Department. The COO
map there you go. So Darren O'Neill brought us this
fantastic I liked it a lot. You had an issue with it for a
specific reason. It was a four pack of Duracell CB C batteries,
I think it would be C didn't look like C or D C or DS and it
had the Coppertop look and had no agenda on it instead of
Duracell of course guaranteed 33 years in storage and it was a
you know like one of those plastic packs and it almost
didn't pass because you hate the actual product.
John C Dvorak: I do and I tell you why. I've definitely found
this online guy who has a battery nut who turned me on to
all Macs and Fuji batteries which is the ones I ordered now.
All Macs are harder to find but Fujis are always been around
because every time I put buy those dura cells from Costco,
no, I put them in some device or other I come back a month later
and they're in there they're exploded there. I have to clean
out debris goo that's in there it's a mess. Those batteries are
garbage. I do not like them. I have photos I take photos I
posted them every once in a while Duracell batteries don't
hold up and again then they did they burst they go to something
they burst inside product and you have to clean out the mess
and hopefully we still get a good connection. I've never had
an all Max battery do that ever
Adam Curry: number years all Max a ll ma si s Amen
John C Dvorak: no al lmax all max
Adam Curry: or max never heard of the product. Do you have a
couple points of that
Unknown: I wish
Adam Curry: all Macs the okay all Macs from now on is the
battery
John C Dvorak: Fuji is also makes a terrific product. I had
to go with Fuji recently because Costco because Amazon stopped
carrying the Olmecs huge pack you could buy for like oh
dollars.
Unknown: Oh no. That hurt me. Oh, well.
Adam Curry: I'm going to I agree with you even just leaving the
batteries in their packaging for too long. They start to sweat
the Duracell. So I've had I've had that happen
John C Dvorak: yeah, they need to get their act together go
with QC
Adam Curry: with cuse Oh quality control. Yes. Yeah. Well, that's
exactly the battery Elon uses in the Tesla, isn't it? He just has
a whole bunch of those double A's. Some like that. Anyway,
thank you very much Darren. We're happy to see you how to
win Where's Darren on the leaderboard right
John C Dvorak: up there he's the long term that perpetual a long
term leaderboard okay like lifetime he's way he's near the
top I mean we have here's the list of all time does you know
all the show Oh, he's number three that they're rats number
one Martin date JJ is number two and Darren is number three
Darren bringing up the rear door in number four. We haven't heard
from him or more people comic strip blogger.
Adam Curry: Comics bloggers Is he right? He's number five all
time leaderboard. 2023 is capitalist agenda networks
correct to record tend to kneel no podium for her. Dame Kenny
were clearly misogynist no chicks in the top three
John C Dvorak: well, they just came in late I will say this I
did use the art from comic strip blogger for the newsletter
that's you use the bots No, we had a nice piece of a robot
eating people and it's obviously AI and I have to say this he
does have a nice he has good taste in in choosing the AI art
which is which is a skill and his what he picks is good so I
mean I'm I'm kind of leaning toward we're going to have to
give in one of these days and use AI art for our main piece
I'm
Adam Curry: sure we've used it without knowing already.
John C Dvorak: Well that could happen but most of the stuff you
can spot there's only two or three companies that do it and
they all have certain Yeah little indicators you can look
at mid journal I think he's using mid journey or mid journey
Adam Curry: you can pick out of a crowd that's pretty easy to
see mid journey
John C Dvorak: this I believe this piece was mid journey but
if it wasn't I'd like to know
Adam Curry: which he recently said and we find this it was the
robot eating
John C Dvorak: the people but see I don't see it I could go
back
Adam Curry: page was it it was on the last shows art Now wasn't
that maybe the show before that. Before that it was three shows
ago you really went it was a stretch for you went way back on
that one. I do that yeah.
John C Dvorak: I look for the best possible piece for the
money I will go out of my way.
Adam Curry: Other pieces use for consideration Well it was nice
to see dirty Jersey whore tried to slip in his Pabst Blue Ribbon
with correct divorce expelling Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, no, that's
nice dry nice lay or any any also brought in the Gatorade
thing? We already done Gatorade before.
John C Dvorak: You know the we have a couple times. Yeah,
Adam Curry: so we've done that. I don't think we actually have
the, you know, like trans Maoism flags now. That's It's not
funny. It's like, you know, it was okay. Sir Schug fo diddley
put.
John C Dvorak: I liked us the IBM IBM IBM piece by Schug but
it wasn't gonna get picked. I just liked it. That was cute.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah. Cute. Cute. doesn't bring home the bacon
John. Cute. Cute now um, that was it. There was not a great
offering. But that's okay. I can see that already. We've got a
lot of gay up there. Can we do more Obama stuff. Don't do that.
It's not gonna get chosen. Anyway, it is just part of our
value for value model where we're very honest about the
products because we don't get paid. What is cool is a lot of
these images go to the no agenda shop no agenda shop.com. Again,
not our shop. Not our cloud, not our circus, not our shop. And
the artists deal directly with the no agenda shop dude over
there. They print up hats, T shirts, etc. And then from time
to time we get a donation whenever it works out but it's
all between it's a part of how no agenda nation works. It's all
value for value. They figure it out. I was wearing my AC JCD t
shirt today. While I was still wearing it while I was prepped.
Yes a good shirt. Anna. Tina took a picture of me looking
really mad for some reason. Or she said no. You were
concentrated and I look like mad. And people like I need that
shirt. Give me that shirt. I need the shirt. Okay, no agenda
shop in multiple columns.
John C Dvorak: Take it off your back and give it to him. No
Adam Curry: way. No way. I sent him a link to no agenda shop.com
which is fantastic. Thank you again Darren O'Neill. Now let's
go to the treasure part of our donation segment. Remember, this
is where we have our special interview coming up and we kick
it off with Vikon David Rosa from Clarkson Michigan Wow, this
is an interesting oh he Oh, a show number donation. 1581. This
does not happen very often. Of course we get up in these higher
numbers and you don't expect it but he says Dear John and Adam,
please Stop this humble donation to the best podcast in the
universe. I recently stumbled across some savings bonds that I
purchased 30 years ago the great they were long forgotten, so I
decided to share my windfall with my favorite podcast. Well,
how about that? I have no jingle requests, but I would appreciate
having my two daughters who are instead named back on show 1500
be black deigned since they were missed in the show. 1500 mayhem
this is kind of nice. Even you know, did he let that slip Let
us slide on that. And now he's coming good with it. As a quick
reminder, their names were Lucy and Eva Rosa and they should be
deemed as Lucy Rosa dame of the 100 100 for the name of the 104
I guess is how I pronounce it. And Eva Rosa dame of the twisted
Wonderland. Thank you both for your continued work. I look
forward to celebrating the next major milestone with you, your
brother in Christ. Vikon David Rosa. Thank you, brother. We
appreciate that. That's very kind of nice of you to do that
for your daughters. And what do you think a savings bond
purchase 30 years ago is actually wouldn't be worth less
now than then the money was well,
John C Dvorak: they continue to collect interest as far as I
know. Does it does it interest outpaced? 3% interest? I think
it could be a lot of money.
Unknown: Well, apparently, it is to me, it looks good. I
John C Dvorak: was a kid they used to promote these things.
And they stopped all over.
Adam Curry: My grandparents gave me a couple of one point in my
life. You know, here's a savings bond kid. Thanks, grandpa.
John C Dvorak: You put it how to do a checkbook anymore. Why
would you balance a checkbook? How to write a check. That's
another loss kill.
Adam Curry: Now you just do that. I would write a word Zell
baby Zell. That's what we use.
John C Dvorak: Thank you. My name is South African and exile
comes up from Bucharest for under $50 Hello, John and Adam.
I've been listening since January 2019. And here I am. The
anonymous South African and exile please de douche make.
Unknown: You've been de deuced.
John C Dvorak: My compatriot also an exile on another
continent. As a douche bag douche bag. He knows who he is.
Adam Curry: Thank you anonymous, South African and exile Robert
Platt in Westerville. Ohio 384. In the morning Adam and John
this note accompanies a PayPal donation for 3d For for episode
1581. I have three requests, please add my wife Deb. Deb
Platt birthday 814 to your birthday announcements. So done.
I'd like jobs karma for my students. That's very kind of
you to do that. And this donation makes me eligible for a
knighthood I wish to be known as Sir sensei. Thank you for all
you do. Oh, thank you, sir. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Jobs.
Pharma.
John C Dvorak: Bristol, Guilarte de are Goulart. But I think it's
GALARDI in Napa, California. And she says thanks for all you do.
We cut the cord a couple of years ago. So I really
appreciate your take on the news. Watch the news. Although
you can get OTA and Napa can pick it up through. So I do
appreciate your take on the news and dissection of such Keep up
the good work crystal.
Adam Curry: Thank you Crystal speaking of checks,
John C Dvorak: by the way that was 333 that six, six?
Adam Curry: Yes. So we brought some some cash. We didn't have
there was a two parter. But the bottom line is when you get
money out of the ATM here at the airport, which is part of the
problem, but it's an ATM, and you're getting money from your
US bank account. Guess what the exchange rate is?
Unknown: probably wrong. At 131. Looks like 131 says
Adam Curry: 20 cents higher than the actual exchange rate is
John C Dvorak: at low. Well it's even more than that. I think by
today's rate because they supposed to change it as much be
fluid. I'll tell you what it is.
Adam Curry: Isn't 1091 away or 108. Maybe let me look can you
believe the message is clear. Do not use cash or do not want
cash.
John C Dvorak: What's your use cash? Right today? It is? Yeah.
109 44. So we'll do 110 one test.
Adam Curry: One and one. Can you believe
John C Dvorak: this a rip off? No kidding.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the message is clear. Got your message. Cash,
anti cash people, the anti cash country. Dr. disorder was in El
Segundo, California 333 33 Our favorite donation amount. long
note let's see Dr. Disorder here. It's been a few years
since I last donated but I knew it was time to donate again when
I was listening the other week on my way to a restaurant while
John was talking about Gran Turismo is This is the hot new
movie from no agenda producer. I'm sorry Associate Executive
Producer Dana Brunetti. I know I can get on with that. When I got
it. When I got to my table I chatted up the lady next to me
and we started talking about racing. And I told her about
this movie I just heard about she stopped me and said, I've
never heard of this movie, but I know the story because my
husband was the chief engineer of the LeMans car the kid won.
Because of that he's now Chief Engineer for Zynga. multimillion
dollar cockpit cars. Look it up. Wow, there you go. There's a
backstory to the movie that we had none other doses
John C Dvorak: movies gonna be. I hope the movie makes a lot of
money. So Brunetti can start donating again. She is actually
sorry, get back in the game. But donating is even better.
Adam Curry: You're not getting a big part. It's just not
happening. John. I'd like to plug
John C Dvorak: in a gift from someone but not from him. I'd
like
Adam Curry: to plug the ultimate Yeah, when I get my Nobel Peace
Prize. I'd like to plug the ultimate meetup next weekend,
Friday, August 18. Monday to Monday, August 21. In Southern
California. This is not a meter. What is this? It's called music
and sky. Go to music and sky.com to get all the details. Okay.
It's a micro Festival. It's not a no agenda meetup coming up
next week or something. Yeah, the 18th to the 21st. It's a
sovereign community. All right.
John C Dvorak: And he also sent a morning note in which it irks
me that people send these notes and so late, but if you're gonna
buy anything from that website in a 23 Is your code na $200 off
Adam Curry: music and sky.com Finally, the no agenda mass
sales in 2020 took me to knighthood but I never claimed
it. Anyways, I hereby declare myself the SIR night of
disorder. I would like swag raw, and was so turn at the round
table and DMT and he wants you to choose the Sauterne which is
an aphrodisiac if I if I'm wrong.
John C Dvorak: About some let's do it. Right. Do it right. 1967
Chateau decam
Adam Curry: 1967 Chateau du cam D Kim D. Spelling D
John C Dvorak: dystrophy? YYQUEMD ClamD.
Adam Curry: D camps. Whatever. John 1967 Dribble John wants and
some DMT. All right. We'll get the stuff from the druid ready
for you. We're not messing around here. Thank you very
much. Jingles you might die and that's true. You might die.
That's true. There you go. Thank you very much, sir.
John C Dvorak: All right. Where was Bill? Bill Frank Hauser in
Columbus, Ohio. 333 33. I don't have much to say Brogan donation
as Rogen been deduced. If not do Shem for me. I don't think
Unknown: you've been deed deuced
John C Dvorak: let him know he owns he owes Wild Bill of Ohio.
10 bucks. Oh, thank you for your courage.
Adam Curry: You'd have to explain why I'll bring it up if
you tell me why I need the backstory. Marcus Campbell
offski Westminster Massachusetts 333 33. John anatomy in the
morning, John. You're a national treasure. Oh switcheroo for
Wayne by the way. Okay, just says Wayne so we just shouldn't
be Wayne or Wayne Campbell. Loski
John C Dvorak: just waiting just Wayne. Wayne. Oops.
Adam Curry: Oh, what just happened? Oh boy. I heard a beep
Yeah, that sounded like I heard a beep to what was that? My
Excel just went nuts and I got a blank page what why am I even
using this product is not outstanding. You're gonna have
to read a job because I can't
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's the page that that that's one of
those blows out my my spreadsheet too long a note
page. I can read it I guess. Adam I wanted to ask you if
Cardano in the UK stole whatever EU EU TX o model was on your
blockchain radar. Yes, and I took it right off. And I run an
off grid card danno stake pool that forges blocks regularly
using only 110 watts of power. The right pool is solar powered
and uses Starlink as an ISP. I would love you to not only check
out what I've built, but also had come over and fuck my wife,
John Oh no, I'm sorry. Read the wrong note. Why don't you also
have a look at the tech dicking forge blocks on a Raspberry Pi
for much love for all you do. Agenda nation please take your
ADA and Star Forge Cardano stake pool ticker okie GE intro
Whiteboard Video by Charles Hodgkinson and he's got his
video.
Unknown: I'm shocked.
John C Dvorak: I'm shocked and then He's shocked at what
Adam Curry: what you just said. I mean 10 years ago that might
have been me what has happened? Were like the Tom Hanks movie
switch.
John C Dvorak: Anyway came up with $333 and the rest of it is
just about blockchain or some I can't hear what he's talking
about here.
Adam Curry: We appreciate it. Actually. I had to unplug the
miners before I left. I was like, I don't want these things.
Creating heat. Well, I'm not home. Charles freelook is in
Froelich. Frutiger is important in Oregon. And he has 333 33 for
the pool in the Morning John I'm thank you for the mighty fine
work you do this donation is an honor of the treasured amygdala
shrinking friends I've made through no agenda meetups about
that and for my smokin hot man Scott frying pants who hit me in
the mouth in 2020 God save the Oregon local 33 and God help
Portlandia Stan no jingles no karma, Charles Froelich,
Portland Oregon. Thank you brother.
John C Dvorak: And shed a Smith in Mansfield, Ohio 333 33
listening since 2013 first major donation deed douche me
Unknown: you've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: no jingles by karma for all?
Adam Curry: No. Well, we can do that for no problem.
Unknown: You've got karma.
Adam Curry: So Mark is or Mike I'm sorry is inherent pair of
her dog Kevin. Kevin O'Leary is in Ramona California. Thanks for
all you do. Kevin not the rich one. Oh, Larry. All right. We
appreciate we appreciate your 3333 you do. And I'll do Baron
JB
John C Dvorak: yes sir Mike and Hereford Arizona 333 Also, sir
Mike here All Hail to the best podcast in the universe. I
believe this takes me to barren jobs karma please.
Adam Curry: Okay, jobs karma it is for you my friend. Jobs,
jobs, jobs and jobs. Jobs. And then we have Baron J B and
Clark's Ville, Maryland. 280 82 little bit of a palindrome in
there. Hey, my dudes haven't done donation in a while and was
feeling kind of douchey decided to fix that please consider this
the new duck breast donation to 80828082 I'm calling out all
listeners who don't donate don't be a dick donate please add me
to the birthday list as I share a birthday with JC these
anniversary of eight eight also add a George K. Who has a
birthday next week. Finally, I'm calling up producers that I have
punched in the mouth to match my duck breast donation you know
who you are. Chris S. Eric W Fred are George K and Dave G
owner of metal spirits. Oh, I have one of their T shirt and
some of their drink. Let's support the best podcast in the
universe. No jingles no coma Baron JB are the Poconos and
Chesapeake Bay.
John C Dvorak: James slammy in Bastrop, Texas 23456. And this
is a switcheroo from Dame slammy to serve. Dude Cink in Bastrop
Texas ITM Janice please credit sir dude Jinkx the best husband
and dude in the universe for his birthday on August 14. Birthday
list a biscuit yet karma please. Thanks recurse love is lit.
Adam Curry: Yes, we have your biscuit right here. They always
give me a biscuit on my birthday.
Unknown: You've got
Adam Curry: ah Harma red pill is in Kona Wisconsin. No note no
karma. Triple John donate. Oh no, I didn't see that one
before. Donate. Yeah, we'll do the annoying one.
Unknown: You've got
John C Dvorak: the Nilu pagkain and Lakewood Colorado jobs
coming for on for a competitive edge Go to Image makers inc.com
For all your executive resume and job search needs. That's
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jobs and jobs that's the staring contest continues.
Adam Curry: But we have one more usually Linda Lou Potkin is is
the last Associate Executive Producer no longer we have
Lionel Ewing Ewing from Seattle, Washington. Can I get some refit
karma as I'm getting my sailboat titled sideways nine named
sideways, ready to sail around the world You must be sending us
send us postcards. Yeah, that's
John C Dvorak: a great idea. Postcards, postcards,
Adam Curry: please. Of course we're gonna give you a service
goat karma for sideways. Karma. I think I should
John C Dvorak: finish off this list.
Adam Curry: Let's do that. Let's do it all the way.
John C Dvorak: Let's go all the way through. That begins with
Sir phone finger number one and is the rest of the donations in
Louisville, Kentucky. $111.11 Menno Demento in Georgetown,
Texas $100 Larry to Leesburg, Virginia. $100 He was a
shoplifter for a while ROBERT CHAMPION 9203 Happy anniversary.
Sir egghead. 9203 Another happy anniversary. This is the
leftovers 9203 from John Schuhmann. Right, Tyler
Darrington 92 a three. And then we have another few well
wishers, Manuel, Bondo 8888 David hothouse 8888 is radiate
ADH, including anonymous at the Nevada Test Site. Your feet
tingling, Jonathan polar. And JELA Pickering. Kevin McLaughlin
who comes in with 808 I want to thank all these other people
that came up with 8888 and 92 or three for anniversary follow the
last of the of the group. Kevin McLaughlin, meanwhile comes with
808 and this time he's promoting the Balan melon be a i l a n
yum. And then he says Chinese 15 eight one with that Miss code.
Christopher Myers in Dallas Texas $71 Joseph Stegman in 1000
oaks 6666 Kevin McLaughlin back 606 small boobs promoting the
you Bari King melon news not
Adam Curry: running on time soon.
John C Dvorak: You Bari King Malefor No, Sir Don and Chandler
Arizona 606 small boobs Banstead straw in Nashville Tennessee
5993 Less tar kowski in Kingman Arizona 57 Christopher Dexter
5678 for economic hitman in Tomball, Texas 5001 And the last
on our list are $50 donors name and location starting with
Andrew Grasso in Mineola, New York, Gavin McGoldrick in San
Francisco, Tim Delvecchio and bland in Pennsylvania, Cory
Cunningham in Warrington, Virginia, John spade in Edmond,
Oklahoma, next to Gary Mau, in Woodland Hills, California
Stephen King and Box Elder South Dakota. Michael when Dale and
Mater when New Jersey, Nikki nos in Milledgeville, North Dakota.
Brand and Savoie in Port orchard, Washington. New Deal's
net real deals now in San Antonio, Texas looking for a
deal go to real deals. Dane Patricia Worthington in Miami,
Florida Jared you're in Nashville, Tennessee, David
Richmond in Gainesville, Florida and last on our list, the
fabulous service but the mighty in Marietta, Georgia want to
thank all these people for making show 1581 a real show
Adam Curry: and thank you to everyone who came in under $50.
You are the ones on sustaining donations, you keep the train
rolling when everything is low. We appreciate it. In addition to
that people come in under 50, for reasons of anonymity, and we
appreciate you as well. We have a couple of makers. The first
one is from Well, this was from Cassandra fair, and we
mistakenly gave her a knighthood, even though it was
intended for her husband, Mike Reuter. I think that's how I
pronounce it. Who turned her on to the no agenda show last year
and they religiously listen. The day after each episode Mike
turns 59 on August 10, and our 10 year wedding anniversary is
August 31. And I never had a fight. My husband is a great man
who was stuck by me through many health issues. He also makes me
laugh every day we both enjoy your show so much. It was about
time you became a night I would appreciate birthday wishes and a
de douche. You've been de douche during the show. This is my
birthday anniversary present to my amazing husband Mike and she
says again Mike Mike Mike rochet Roy, Roy J. Roger, what do you
think John on because you're gonna get another rosiere
rosiere I want to make sure you mispronounce his name. He would
like to be registered so MARPOL part of the Fort Bend County
Texas. Oh, we collect vintage muscle cars. Oh, hello. I want
to come Hey, Oh,
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. I thought it was I er by looking
at Oro I G or that's gotta be Roger.
Adam Curry: Roger, Roger, Roger, Roger, Roger, Roger roger, my
friend. He's not he's my new friend because The mic riser.
Right, Roger. All right. And I swear I heard my husband say
Obama 18. But you will write he actually said Obama's a team.
Yes. We played that. And finally out for Adam. I myself Cassandra
was born and raised in Canada, and I've lived in Houston, Texas
since 2001. I have dual citizenship. Okay. Well let you
say, I am mailing you a package of mint condition Canadian coins
for your collection. Thank you, which also includes a roll of
minted pennies that are no longer in use. No more pennies
accepted in Canada Navia. It should be in your mailbox when
you get back from Europe. Thank you. That was so nice of you,
Cassandra? Yes. So we fix that and we have him. We'll have them
up on the podium in a moment. And then we have our incident
came from the last episode. She had no note but we have now.
Connie, her birthday was on show day, August 10. And she turned
33. I wanted to make a correction of my husband was
mentioned my husband is not Sir Brian Watson from Raleigh, North
Carolina. He's Brian Watson from San Martin, California. He's my
husband. I would like my day name to be Dane Bay Area's
wildfire. Okay. I don't know if it's too late to make requests.
I would love three rolls. No, I can do that right now. three
rolls of sushi with a glass of gin at the round table.
John C Dvorak: Oh, god. What?
Adam Curry: What is wrong with you people? Oh, that's what
you're into. We're okay Saki we're okay with that. One a
shout out to two amazing people that took us to Alaska for a
wedding anniversary. Kristen and Nick our last restaurant we ate
out in Alaska. After the tip our receipt came to 333 dot 32 No
requests just want to tell you you are both amazing. Well,
thank you so much. And thank you to everybody who produced this
episode of The no agenda show especially our executive and
associated executive producers we appreciate it. These titles
are good forever. If anyone questions about our formula is
this. We go out we hit people in the mouth
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support us become a producer vorak.org/pay.
A nice list once again today. Don Canary cashmere turns 61 on
July 30 belated Happy Birthday. Baron JB celebrated on the
eighth sir Egghead wishes little Islam and Happy Birthday turned
15 On the eighth of the Saundra Fair which is her husband Mike
Rozier Happy Birthday 59 on the 10th day is bizarre his wife
faith and celebrated 49 years on August 11 Robert flat wishes
wife Deborah happy birthday for tomorrow. Dame slamming her
husband sir dude kink Happy Birthday on the 14th and Baron
JB wishes George K Happy birthday so do we everybody here
to Stafford management of the best podcast in the universe
Unknown: don't want to be
Adam Curry: we do have one that super non douchebag because
becomes barren today that would be like his additional support
of the no agenda show $1,000 takes them up to Baron status
these are real by the way. And believe it or not, I have seen
the beginnings of the new donation page which will explain
all of these peerages and titles and everything in a beautiful
fashion is coming soon stay tuned we'll let you know that
page will be
Unknown: four.org/if John
Adam Curry: can find the credentials for the login for
the server. And now we have let's see we have three days and
two nights so that's a big blades we got to bring out for
today's show John. Oh look at this all right. Up on the podium
please the following people Connie Luthor Rosa Eva Rosa,
Robert Platt, Dr. disorder and Mike Roger, all of you. I'm very
proud to pronounce the Kate as dames knights. Again. Bay Area's
wildfire day moves 104 Dame of the twisted Wonderland sir
senseis sir night of disorder. Sir Mopar of Fort Bend County,
Texas for you. We've got focus on blow renforcement Chardonnay,
foie gras with 1967 sotar and DMT rolls of sushi with a glass
of gin. We also got sparkling cider and escorts ginger ale and
Jerboas and well hey, there it is. You know you asked for these
fancy things 1967 Shoto duquan So turn button you know you want
the mutton and meat we all know you're going for it. I see you
while you're feasting on that go to no agenda rings.com You can
find a place there to put in your rings is a handy ring
sizing guide is there as well and the address where we send
your day or night ring to everyone else can go there take
a look and just drool over the wonderful ring that is the night
ring or the dame ring it's a signet ring will give you the
wax to seal your important correspondence along with of
course certificate of authenticity and thank you for
coming Knights and Dames with no agenda around him no one
connects connects for that protect that you deserve no
agenda meetups can be found in no agenda meetups.com Completely
producer organized. It is the compliment to listening to the
no agenda show already the best podcast in the universe. But the
best meetups in the universe happen around the world where
producers from every corner of the earth come together and hang
out. There's always one near you. And we have a couple of
interesting reports. This one's from Alexandria. Hey, it's DC
girl in the morning. Hey, it's there,
Unknown: William. Jeff in the morning.
Adam Curry: Hey, it's Chris. This is great crowd. Hey, this
is Jacob my first meet up from Albany Georgia. Hey, in the
morning, Christopher in King George I think they're all
spooks here. Rosa from King George
Unknown: the hottest day on Earth and I'm John except for
the 500 million years the earth was covered in lava. That
was a pretty hot day.
This is yet another Chris and how come there's so many boobs
and Alexandria various unity
they say hi meetups good Hitler bad this is rounding this Are we
saying the sound thing
I can tell not until the Crystal Palace anchor baby emanates
Adam Curry: around the sneaking in there you know you got a real
job and it doesn't make art for us anymore. was nice while it
lasted. And DC girl nice to have her in there Alexandria,
Virginia. It's also known as the spook meet up we have the
crooked Ryan meet up here from the lowlands sure Henrik from
the crooked rain meter bins
Unknown: and we have here in the big picnic I'm sure Andre and
I'm sober. Hi this is Nina it's my first time today this
Sebastian sobers.
Well, sure doors enjoying my fake beer.
This is fine great time great food. Great meet up business
Hans firmer
sundrenched Benwick in the in the Netherlands. In the morning
everybody in the morning dava stay safe and healthy
Dame Sabine boost and yeah, it's never a dull moment here. Really
nice here. I'm Stephanie. I'm Zelena you're enjoying myself?
Isn't that lovely?
Greetings from all of us in Sinhala?
Adam Curry: Yes and no agenda meetups in the lowlands enjoy
smelly smelly now is the time you guys are crazy love you I
wish I were here earlier would have come to that Ryan the Ryan
meet up there on the Rhine somewhere the Ryan rather Ryan
the best date and had a good meet up Dayton Ohio sir egg had
sent a note he says thank you for the love of God. Y'all go to
a meet up. Thanks, Adam and John for helping introduce us to cool
people coming up. Today actually the third annual CTFs float meet
is well the the float part has been done. But I believe the
meat portion starts in about half an hour at the railroad
rail yard Bar and Grill in San Marcos, Texas and of course,
Baron Scott of the knowledge and armory organizing that the
second Saturday on a Sunday slave soiree that probably
already is over at Sellwood Riverfront Park in Portland,
Oregon. We have the so called Small amygdala meetup coming up
at 430. So that's not too far away from now. Draft on Vessel
Tosa in Wauwatosa. Wisconsin. Sad news the meet up Monday the
Ozarks deconstruction zone, which is a regular one has been
canceled. So in case you're planning on going on going
there, don't go there. Next show Thursday, the Mile High meet up
630 Mountain Time Denver Museum of Nature and Science in Denver,
Colorado. I'll go get some science people and Charlotte's
Third Thursday, seven o'clock at edge Tavern in Charlotte, North
Carolina. There will be a special meetup on August 19 in
Maui, Hawaii. Go to Noah Jenna meetups.com. To find out about
that we have several more international meetups including
Konya, Turkey coming up on the 27th another Netherlands meet up
on the ninth. We're already in the September this thing these
meetups are slammin, you have to go to one. You will not regret
I've not ever heard one person say I went to a meet up man to
suck there was no good I was disappointed. That's the one
thing you'll never hear you will hear crazy drunk high people who
are having a good time all over the world. And many sober as you
heard even in the Netherlands, no agenda meetup.com Go there.
Find a meetup near you. If you can't find one, start one
yourself. It's easy and always a party
Unknown: day you wouldn't be triggered you wouldn't be bomb
bombs like
Adam Curry: alright, a cover call. Do you have any meetups?
meetups? ISOs I mean meetups. Eisah.
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, you have ISOs Yeah. How
Adam Curry: many do you have?
Unknown: I have three. I have three. Let's do your three
first.
John C Dvorak: Okay, let's start with lunacy.
Adam Curry: It's lunacy. AJ can almost can't go wrong with an
AGI. So to be honest, but let's see what else you got.
Unknown: Psychic. Gets like he's a psychic. Okay.
John C Dvorak: And last is timeout.
Unknown: Time's running out
Adam Curry: to a J's wow all right. Let me let me see if I
can top that.
Unknown: Oh my God.
Not bad. Not bad. I heard you kind of sniffle I'm on a whole
bunch of different drugs.
Adam Curry: Little muddly maybe this one
John C Dvorak: hot, heavy and hard.
Unknown: To ridiculous.
Oh my god.
Adam Curry: You don't like that? Well,
John C Dvorak: I like that. And I like Time's running out.
Unknown: Time's running out.
Adam Curry: It's AJ man. We can always play AJ you don't always
get
John C Dvorak: to run. You're gonna You're laughing guy.
Adam Curry: Laughing guy. You know who the laughing guy is?
I'm not going to tell you you won't want it. I know
John C Dvorak: you have to tell me. It's Morning Joe. No cheat.
Adam Curry: Did told you didn't want to know who was who okay
John C Dvorak: I've got the spy. We actually least do this. Yeah,
this just by spying the spy. Yeah, I
Adam Curry: got some of that caught. We
John C Dvorak: caught the one spy we finally get a spy in
there. They caught him immediately. CIA's got a mole.
Unknown: China may have caught a US spy. The communist countries
saying so. And the American CIA has said it's developing its
network in the communist country. Here's NTDs Tiffany
Meyer with more
Beijing says it's found an American spy in its midst
surnamed zone, the Chinese national is under arrest on
suspicion of spying for the US Central Intelligence Agency or
CIA. The news follows recent word from the agency that it's
working to rebuild its spy network inside China. Here's
that clip from CIA director William Burns
on micro about a decade ago the CIA rolled up the China rolled
up a lot of CIA operations in China. A dozen or more CIA?
Adam Curry: Sounds like he's crying.
Unknown: Yes, the host. Oh, I
Adam Curry: was gonna say that's not burns.
Unknown: China rolled up a lot of CIA operations in China. A
dozen or more CIA sources were arrested or worse executed. Have
you rebuilt?
Yeah, we've made progress and we're working very hard over
recent years to ensure that we have a strong human intelligence
capability to complement what we can acquire through other
methods.
Over a decade ago Beijing killed or detained over a dozen see a
sources. One of them was shot in front of his coworkers in the
courtyard of a sticked building inside China. Back to the latest
arrest. China says the newly captured alleged spy had worked
from industrial group linked to the Chinese military. The group
sent zing to Italy to further his studies. But while there he
reportedly got acquainted with a local CIA agent, the report
refers to the US agent as Seth and goes on to say that Xang
later signed contracts with the US intelligence agency and
exchange as promised larger sums of money and a smooth US
immigration process for his entire family. The statement
continues that Xang repeatedly
Adam Curry: women they signed contracts now with despise
John C Dvorak: but it says this is probably yours. They had like
four if you remember that we did a story about 10 years ago I had
to see a
Unknown: vapor the deal that they reorg
John C Dvorak: and instead of having I guess they used to have
all these these field guys that would solicit somebody and get
them working for them individually. It was kind of off
the books and only known by that one agent and they decided to
centralize a database because they needed a database or got a
computer and that's how they caught so they put put all the
spied listed despise that, you know this this problem of law,
they got the list of all the spies
Adam Curry: so dumb. The BBC had a different version of that was
part two of this video. Let me play play part two.
Unknown: The updated log gives Beijing additional authority to
sniff out and punish acts that it deems a threat to its
national security. Several US officials have already expressed
concerns over the new counter espionage law. At the same time,
tensions are still mounting between Washington and Beijing.
The US Embassy in China hasn't responded to the matter.
Adam Curry: The who announced this is the CIA Come on, guys
got caught. Is that what they did?
John C Dvorak: I don't know where it came from. And TD
probably picked it off with China's Chinese news.
Adam Curry: Here's BBC was a version of a report.
Unknown: China says it's uncovered a spy recruited by the
US intelligence service this CIA, the state security ministry
said the Chinese national, known only by the surname of zoom was
employed at a military organization and was taken on by
the Americans during a work trip to Italy. Our Asia Pacific
editor will Leonardo is with me in the studio. Tell us more
about what China is saying about this agent.
So yes, this is a statement from the tiny security ministry. It
says this man called sung in his 50s, who worked for what's
described as a military industrial group was sent to
Italy. And there he was alleged to have met a US embassy
official by the name of Seth. Piers, they lived it up together
in Italy, they went to dinner parties and went on outings to
the opera together. wording in the statement says
Adam Curry: the old gay spy routine Hey, let's go to the
opera is to
Unknown: have met a US embassy official by the name of Seth.
Piers. They lived it up together in Italy, they went to a dinner
parties and went on outings and went to the opera together. And
there's some interesting wording in the statement. It says that
Zoom became psychologically dependent and succumbs to
Western values. Seth is then a sensitive offered zone a large
sum of money and immigration to the US for himself and his
family and being signed an espionage agreement to provide
sensitive material about Chinese military wants back in China.
Once back in the country, he met up with CIA agents as alleged
multiple times to provide what's been described as a large amount
of cord intelligence. There's no word and what that is. The
ministry said he was taking compulsory measures against them
and will be handed to prosecution services soon. And
that there's been no independent confirmation and no word from
the US authorities. Although it's unlikely that there'll be
speaking a lot on this topic.
Adam Curry: This configure in the document confuses me even
more. So the guy went to Italy, he lived it up with Seth
John C Dvorak: went to the OP Euro says went to the opera went
to the opera opera together where we were living it up.
Usually if I'm going to the app, I'm not going with a guy.
Unknown: What is the state of play between China and the US
when it comes to espionage?
Well, there seems to be a rare detailed disclosure from China
even though Beijing has long claimed foreign forces are
trying to undermine the country. It recently expanded its
definition of espionage and made it slightly more vague things in
the private sector, including US firms and that sort of thing.
And it comes as you say, amid heightened tensions between the
two great powers over trade over military, we've had those
restrictions of chips to China by the US authorities. And it's
also the latest accusation of espionage from either side. So
last week, we had two US Navy sailors arrested in California
for allegedly providing material to Chinese authorities. And also
it comes a few months after the CIA CIA director Bill Burns said
the agency was trying to expand its Chinese network after a
catastrophic exposure event in which they will spies were lost.
Adam Curry: This is just a takedown to CIA. This is just
more like ah, CIA is no good. They can't even get a guy go to
the opera to stay safe.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the FBI wants to job. Some Yeah,
something like that. You know, the FBI is taken over the secret
services job. And also this I don't know if I have a clip of
this. But you know, the shameful I don't? Is that the current
situation in Ecuador? I do have a clip, actually. Because that
guy was shot. It turns out now they're asking for the FBIs help
about this assassination. Yeah. And obviously this is a takeover
of Ecuador. We need to Ecuador because of the oil. I think one
of our producers sent us some information about what's going
on there did and this is like what's the FBI doing in Ecuador.
And this is what again, brings me back to my complaint about
FBI international the TV show by Dick Wolf. When does the FBI
become this world police six Colombian
Unknown: men are charged with the assassination of an
Ecuadorian presidential candidate. Officials say the
suspect and Wednesday shooting are part of a drug trafficking
ring. The candidate had campaigned on fighting crime and
corruption. A number of other candidates have suspended their
campaigns in the wake of the killing.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I have the note about about the they called
the FBI they call the FBI not to see it. They said hey, FBI, we
need your help. Come on in as weird. I find it
John C Dvorak: peculiar this to say the least. But I think they
were trying to take over Ecuador. We've already got the
belt of Africa. And by the way, I was looking into it. The belt
of Africa which does go from coast to coast and all the
countries that are going to side with Nigeria are all part of The
belt, the cool belt, which is suspicious in itself, and of
course the Russians are somehow there.
Adam Curry: How about the trans African rail line? That China?
Yeah, well,
John C Dvorak: that was originally going to go through
Central African Republic and over to Cameroon. Now that's not
gonna happen i because Sudan is part of this of the belt. So I
think that that part of it has something to do with it, but I
have to Niger clips. Oh, hold on a second of the Niger update,
and then a little ditty about France.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Because before we do that, so we had well,
that's weird. We had an Africa jingle. Someone made Africa,
I'll play your Niger stuff along second making plans for Niger
Unknown: West African nations on Friday worked on plans for
possible military intervention in Asia. The regional bloc also
pledged to to enforce sanctions, travel bans, and asset freezes
under Giunta, which ousted former President Mohamed Bazoom.
On July 26, after a summit of its heads of state ICA was
ordered the activation of a standby force for possible use
against the Ginta. It said it had not given up hope of a
peaceful resolution to the crisis but that all options
including military action were possible. Nigeria's President
full out Enugu
Adam Curry: from the community of this summit
Unknown: no is ticking of the table,
including the use of force. It is not clear how big the force
would be if it would actually invade and which countries would
contribute. security analysts said Ico was forced could take
weeks or longer to assemble potentially leaving room for
negotiations. The Giunta has said it would defend the country
against any foreign attack.
So there's still a lot of unknowns. But this is a
significant next step, and certainly an escalation of
tensions, at least between the regional bloc and the offensive
block that seems to be forming right now. Between Mali Burkina
Faso and Niger, specifically,
in the capital and yummy residents condemned the military
intervention plan
plus ECOWAS needs to understand what the people of various
member countries expect of it. what is expected of ECOWAS is to
attack the causes of coup d'etat, not the consequences.
Because the European Union and the United States reiterated
concern about the conditions under which Bazoom and his
family were being detained.
Adam Curry: Hold on. A little longer. No, I know. I couldn't
find it.
John C Dvorak: Okay, yes.
Adam Curry: Sorry. I found it though.
John C Dvorak: No punch. So yeah, we're concerned about how
the other guy's being treated. We didn't say anything about our
concerns about the place being taken over
Unknown: No, no, we're not. So here's part two.
Uranium rich Niger is a key ally for the West in the fight
against Islamist militants in the Sahel region until the coup,
it was also aligned with the West after neighboring Mali, and
others turned against former colonial power France, in favor
of closer ties with Russia. France said late on Thursday, it
fully backed all the conclusions of ECOWAS meeting, but it stayed
clear of outlining any concrete support it could give to any
potential intervention.
John C Dvorak: So we booted France out.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think that was part of the plan. I mean,
France needed for the uranium because they still use maybe I
think used to be 70 bucks, probably 55 60%. Atomic,
John C Dvorak: I think it's more I still think it's over in the
70s 70s. So that's
Adam Curry: out of the gas pipeline to this is why it's not
even about the Africa. It's about Europe. We're just
screwing Europe.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this cuts off if the French were to buy
uranium they can buy it from the Russians.
Adam Curry: Yes, thank you Hill.
John C Dvorak: And yeah, this is France got screwed on the wheel.
I'm sure they were extracting uranium for next to nothing.
Adam Curry: We will continue to monitor this as we learn more
about Africa than we ever wanted to know.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I didn't want to know anything.
Adam Curry: To two quickies that we have to play just to get them
on record.
Unknown: Tonight. disgraced former billionaire and
cryptocurrency CEO Sam bank ministries sent back to jail
after prosecutors accused him of giving a document to a media
outlet to intimidate a witness a judge revoking a 31 year old
$250 million bail remanding him into the custody of US Marshals
proxy Get her say bank been free try to discredit a trial witness
and taint the jury pool when he shared excerpts of his ex
girlfriend Caroline Ellison's personal documents with the New
York Times Ellison led bank Ben Fried's Alameda Research Fund
she's pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate in the
investigation into allegations bank Ben freed defrauded
customers and lenders of his now bankrupt cryptocurrency company.
FTX is speaking with our George Stephanopoulos late last year.
I'm trying
to focus on what I can do going forward to be helpful.
And you know,
Adam Curry: you know, that cleaning everything up. Every
everybody you know he needed to go away. He's dangerous. He's
dangerous. He knows way too much about all the campaign
contributions he knows about the money to Ukraine. He knows too
much. Speaking of Ukraine. This happened
Unknown: tonight, President Solinsky announcing a crackdown
on corruption firing every regional military recruitment
chief ABCs chief foreign correspondent Ian Pannell is in
Ukraine.
A devastating Russian missile strike in zipper region in the
SouthEast of Ukraine. video circulating online showing the
moment one of the ballistic missiles flew overhead
yesterday, and the terrifying moment it lands exploding.
Residents running for their lives to missiles slamming next
to a hotel one woman died 90 were injured including four
children according to the state governor. And tonight, President
Solinsky firing every single regional military enlistment
chief across Ukraine amid a major corruption scandal.
Lindsey some of these officers are accused of taking bribes so
people can dodge military enlistment and the Lensky saying
the way they treat actual Warriors is immoral.
John C Dvorak: A terrible version of that story because
they interrupted it with a drone strike. I have my stories now
much better. But I have another clip that at least bring doesn't
bring her up.
Adam Curry: Yeah, brings in leaves the drone strike intact.
Yes, Ukrainian
John C Dvorak: moves the drone strike out and keeps this
corruption thing. What is going on with these? anybody in their
right mind? They're bailing out of the country?
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, yes. And we're bailing out too. This is
the beginning. This is always the Lensky.
John C Dvorak: Son of Ukraine.
Unknown: Ukrainian state investigators have uncovered
some shady business deals at business Erie recruitment
offices to paint the picture. 112 criminal cases have been
opened, exposing officials allegedly making illegal money,
and they're also accused of transporting new recruits across
borders to other countries. Now how much money was actually
taken is still unknown. However, all of this follows a scandal in
the Ukrainian city of Odessa. A recruitment officials family in
Spain was found owning properties worth millions of
dollars. The corruption scandal comes at a time when Ukraine's
long awaited counter offensive has been hampered by Russian
defense lines. Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky
quickly responded to the corruption allegations and fired
all military recruitment officers in the country. And he
said this
system should be run by people who know exactly what war is and
why cynicism and bribery in times of war constitute treason.
Adam Curry: This is a message and I'm not exactly sure what it
is. But if it's about exposing more corruption, there's a lot
to come. There's the entire telegram channels filled with
high ranking Ukrainian officials in foreign countries in Western
Europe in Austria. They've got a boo god, he's very raw. They've
got Lamborghinis, Ferraris Rolls Royces. They've got multimillion
dollar condos
John C Dvorak: thanks to the American taxpayer.
Adam Curry: It's all our money of course. So maybe this they're
finally winding this down. I mean, Africa is heating up. This
has got to go. But how do we how do we close it out? How do we
finish it?
John C Dvorak: They don't have an exit strategy. We know that.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: No peace. What a crazy idea. We could just have
peace.
John C Dvorak: Well, not with Zelinsky there, they're gonna
have to do something about that guy. Where's Halle Jones was his
legacy scenario.
Adam Curry: We'll have we'll have peace. Oh, I know what's
going to happen to Zelinsky
Unknown: sucked into a jet engine.
John C Dvorak: In a mood if He's smart, he's going to go to start
Switzerland as fast as he can. I
Adam Curry: hear Madrid is the new place to hang out. That's
where all the elites are Madrid because Madrid is like you can
completely live in luxury in a nice big town. It's
John C Dvorak: fun Madrid
Adam Curry: Madrid is that's where a lot of the royal family
are hanging out now. Madrid seems the place to be.
John C Dvorak: Okay. Well, that's where he should go then
Adam Curry: Mr. Lensky out, Vicki Newland puts in some new
people. They go for peace.
John C Dvorak: But they got a weather here's what they have to
get but they can't just let Solinsky escape and just leave
the very they gotta he's got to be asked to buy some general who
some phony baloney ousting he's going to flee to Madrid How
about the
Adam Curry: people how about the people know that people
John C Dvorak: won't do anything? No obviously he
wouldn't happen by now it's got to be a general some guy and
then he's gonna get he's going to escape narrowly escape and
end up in Madrid or wherever he wants to go
Adam Curry: I don't I don't like your scenario. I think jet
engine is much better. You've been more fun
John C Dvorak: hoping people get sucked into jet engines for over
a year you
Adam Curry: wait you wait it's gonna happen. We got a jet
engine in someone's future that's it
John C Dvorak: cleaning up that mess.
Adam Curry: No. Coming to you from right across from Schiphol
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John C Dvorak: Dan from Northern Silicon Valley where everyone is
living it up but me on Jhansi Dvorak we return
Adam Curry: on Thursday right here on no agenda for more
deconstruction remember us at the borak.org/na Until then
adios smartphones Hui Hui.
Unknown: Whisper to my life the environment 1.9 $1.9 trillion
dollars?
Know.
Adam Curry: Hundreds of 1000s of homeless eating from garbage
cans in America
Unknown: Get on the streets of San Francisco and then there's
nothing better when you're pooping on
Adam Curry: the streets in San Francisco
Unknown: called around the world. Be careful where you put
your feet here and the smelly Thrive streets here in San
Francisco drop on the New York
junkies it'll be crazy to try. And btw five streets doesn't
matter if you're just as long as you don't
blame it on President Trump. We've been in the streets come
on down with us streets.
Adam Curry: How did anyone know that the bag of poop on the San
Francisco street? How did anyone know that? It was 20 pounds 20
pounds of human waste. Like did anyone
John C Dvorak: know? You're walking down the street? What is
that bill? It looks like a bag of poop. Hold on a second. I've
got a postal scale with me.
Unknown: MoPhO vorak.org/n A
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