Adam Curry: We love you. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak June
18 2023 This is your award winning nation media
assassination episode 1565 This is no agenda. Hotez Smackdown
and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country
here in Samaria number six in the morning everybody I'm Adam
curry
John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley where we had a 10
cars suffer from Chelsea divorce
Adam Curry: Wow an early morning Zephyr report Who would have
expected that that's a fantastic that's a great way to kick off
the show
John C Dvorak: it was an eight cars effort with two private
cars in the back and Baja father's days
Adam Curry: father's father's day special
John C Dvorak: and the two cars the back were a like a sleeper
and a observation vistadome car that were so pretty. Cream and
chrome oh it was like you go look at this and compared to the
rest of the train you go what happened to design in this
country? Oh my God
Adam Curry: I am so happy for you Happy Father's Day.
Unknown: Happy Father's Day to you.
Adam Curry: Yeah, did you get did you get Father's Day gifts?
You get to tweet text anything?
Unknown: Yeah, I got it. I got this
Adam Curry: you actually got tweets. Oh yeah. Boy they know
daddy. Well don't they give the old man this keep busy for
hours.
Unknown: Then they found this
Adam Curry: what is that?
Unknown: Turkey call
Adam Curry: now do you blow on that or is that electronic?
John C Dvorak: No you it's a two handed operation you used to you
slam it was your fist you know about that?
Adam Curry: I do now yeah. Oh, excellent. So nice. My
John C Dvorak: favorite. Is this the chicken thing? Is this thing
though. The little squawk at the end? It's cartoony? Yes. Good
kids don't do that. No
Adam Curry: they do a little bit like that. Okay, all right,
everybody there you go. This is the best podcast in the
universe. And now you know why? Man something cool happened last
night.
Unknown: That I pray tell ya.
Adam Curry: So on I think it was was it's Friday. I think Joe
Rogan had JFK Jr. on his podcast. And for about the first
two hours, he just railed on vaccines and went into into
depths I'd forgotten we've deconstructed most of this. But
you know how how they really work and and how the schedule is
increased and legality of it. And of course, he knows about
all this because he sued many of these companies. And it was
interesting because Joe started off with a whole like five
minute monologue like a soliloquy about he always
thought that, you know, JFK Jr. was an anti Vaxxer a kook a nut
job, tinfoil hat wear and dude until he read his book about
Anthony Fauci. And so this just went on and it was beautiful. On
and on, and on and on. And yeah, he says all kinds of stuff like,
you know, we should ban advertisement of farm on
television, and I mean, really stuff that we pretty much would
agree with. And then now Joe never goes on Twitter. I think
he whatever he does, he does Instagram and then whatever he
posts on Instagram, it gets reposted on Twitter, and Hotep
Hotez. Now, our friend up there in North Texas. He starts going
off, you know, typical Twitter, like, Oh, look at these look at
these to spreading misinformation about vaccines.
And so Joe pops on the Twitter and says, Hey, Peter Hotez. He's
been on his show to hotel, hotel, hotels, Hotez. He says, I
will donate $100,000 to the charity of your choice. If you
come in and debate, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. had no time limit.
And all hotels will do her own hemming and hawing. And then now
people are you know, there's people throwing 100 grand on top
of that, and it's like $800,000 hotels, it's like, well, you
know, I'll come on I'll talk to you but you can talk to
misinformation guy. He won't do it.
John C Dvorak: Nobody will debate makalah they won't bait
debate Malone. They won't debate anybody, this whole group of
people and Hotep is one of the top of the group OPERS. Yeah,
they will not talk about it. They have their spiel. And they
don't want to talk about it. That's it. No, no debate. It's
like sciences. And
Adam Curry: it's like, checkmate. It's really
fantastic. Now, I doubt that the M five M will do anything with
this, because we, we don't let anybody know about this. But
it's pretty, it's pretty vital right now. So very, very
interesting. situation. I liked it a lot. I thought it was very
funny. And I And I'll say this about that. RFK RFK saying, I
think we should ban pharma advertising. Actually, I have
the clip, well listen to the clip. And I'll say, I'll say
this about that,
Unknown: oh, you know, ambitions have completely subsumed the
regulatory function of those agencies. And that has, and, you
know, one of the things that we need to do, too, is the
pharmaceutical advertising on television, there's only two
countries in the world that allow it on his New Zealand, the
other is our country, everybody who is knowledgeable is against
it. It not only has compromised, you know, has compromised public
health, we now we take largely because of that advertising, we
take three or four times the amount of drugs as Europeans
take. And drugs are the number three killer in our country,
pharmaceutical drugs, the number three killer after cancer and
heart attacks. They're not making us healthier, we have we
spend more on health care, or point 3 trillion than any
country in the world. And we have the worst health impacts.
And we're behind like Mongolia, Costa Rica, Cuba, in terms of
our health outcomes, all of these drugs, the pharmaceutical
industry is not making us safer, safer, it's not making us
healthier. And you know, we changed the rule in 1990 97.
Prior to 1997, like cigarettes and liquor, you couldn't
advertise on TV, we changed those rules. And FDA allowed the
pharmaceutical companies to advertise and they not only now
have a platform from which they can tell everybody you're safe.
You need this, you need that. But also, they are able to
dictate content on television, so they can dictate content on
the you know, on the local and
Adam Curry: on YouTube. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Not much new here
for for the no agenda listener, obviously. But as it comes to,
you know, we always vote independent. We don't we don't
vote for any of the parties. We can't it's I mean, I can't even
bring myself to do it and too bad. He's running as a Democrat.
Because as a single issue, voter, I guess, if I were one of
those, it would so it would help so much. It relates to
everything and relates to trans Maoism. It relates to children
being morons. It relates to education, it relates to
probably to mass murder, you know, children going nuts with
guns, it relates to adults being idiots it relates relates to so
much, just that one move, you said it yourself would probably
solve some things in America. You know, forget all the all the
stuff that all the other candidates say this might
actually affect something. And I guess somewhere he said he would
issue an executive order to do it if he was president. I don't
know if he can. I don't know if he can do that. I believe he'd
be sued immediately. I mean, that would be freedom of speech,
all kinds of First Amendment issues, I'm sure. But at least
someone's bringing attention to it. Which is kind of cool.
Unknown: Yeah. Besides us.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, yeah, but it's finally
John C Dvorak: finally the media is not going to do it because
it's too much money. They're getting too much cash. Yeah,
it's just corrupted the whole system. That's the real issue.
zactly
Adam Curry: Well, and that's another thing that came out this
morning. shockwave through TV Land. This is the Netherlands
now the Netherlands is interesting. Because very
western very liberal country. They have an interesting media
mix of state controlled propaganda, but also commercial
television. And this was the the big story this morning headlines
from the media analysts as the ratings came out. Everything's
flopping there. For the past three days, the television
ratings in the Netherlands have never been lower ever before.
less than 13% of the country watched any television at all.
And And then the state channel three had a zero had zero people
watching it yesterday. This something happening here. This
switch is coming and it's happening everywhere. You know
it's happening you know in Australia seeing it NOW.
Headline ABC is quiet revolution behind sackings as viewers
switch off TV tune into tick tock. I'm not saying it's all
good, what's happening, but at least they're moving away from
the mainstream, which is just dribble and poison, and just
nothing good. And that's probably why, you know, the
politicians are so freaked out about exactly about tick tock
and other places, then Elon Musk with his always free speech.
Because they don't they don't control the message their
messaging system is breaking. It really is.
John C Dvorak: Well, still better than any other one
source.
Adam Curry: What do you mean?
John C Dvorak: I will? Well, there's no I mean, there. If you
take all the podcasts and you do all his you know, it's very
distributed. Yeah. And as opposed to one network TV show
that can bring in 30 million people.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, that's the that's the show.
John C Dvorak: I watched I was watching. Oh, a n. Yes. What
American Woman Yeah. And the one woman is the kind of over made
up, pretty girl. Who's on?
Adam Curry: That's everyone on that channel. Which one is
which?
John C Dvorak: One in particular? She had the America
shaman on for his first interview.
Adam Curry: Oh, did you got any clips?
John C Dvorak: No, I just was on this morning. I was watching you
just before the show. Oh, and the guy is a star.
Adam Curry: He's let me let me guess he really has a great rap.
John C Dvorak: Besides having a sounds a little like, like a
surfer guru. He's got a terrific rap. A tremendous personality.
Adam Curry: Yeah, was he? What did he look like? Did he have
the hat on the helmet?
John C Dvorak: No. Now he's got a bald head. Oh, and a Taliban
beard. Jacob Chancellor. Yeah, Chancellor. He's got a bald
head. He was wearing a suit and a bald head in it and a Taliban
beard. Night he's a charmer Oh, and
Adam Curry: what was the main what was what was the main
message is this story
John C Dvorak: a story by getting thrown in the slammer
the racist black a guards that were trying to you know, beat
him up every chance they could because he was the supposedly
white supremacist. He just had funny stories to tell and he but
he was I there's one clip I didn't have to go back and get
because it was so funny. She asked him a bunch of government
questions and he his response to her was just priceless because
he was questions he couldn't answer because there was there
was a gag order on this one line of questioning it seems he
couldn't say that either. But he did like this triple take and
then he and he just said something that he says no
comment in a very funny way. And good good. He is really good he
said he's he pays starting a website a podcast Get over
yourself perfect but what he needs is a Hollywood agent.
Adam Curry: If see I disagree this is no longer necessary.
Rogan will probably pick him up and it truly podcasts are the
last bastion of free speech and people are selecting their own
little you know whatever they
John C Dvorak: understand your position there's though you say
it over and over again. But he if he had an agent he would
really blossom
Adam Curry: i disagree and the reason I know you do but I'm
just telling you what I think I know but I'm but I'm trying to
lead into a clip but you keep interrupting me when I disagree.
Unknown: Doing it right yeah.
Adam Curry: Wow. Should I do that and to signal to you that I
have a clip
John C Dvorak: Oh, I don't know. If you're gonna be if it begins
with a disagreement that creates an argument. Okay, how about
that? It's gonna be tough.
Adam Curry: Let's try it again. Oh, I agree with your position
from your standpoint. But let me play a clip Spotify
Unknown: is moving on from Prince Harry and Duchess Megan
to streaming services not renewing their podcast. Both
sides say they've mutually agreed to part ways ending their
estimated $25 million deal. The podcast ran for only 12 episodes
beginning last summer.
Adam Curry: The whole Spotify thing is falling apart. They
invested a billion dollars. They've now fired almost
everybody they Aqua hired. They're getting ready to read
every single big contract. All of the Obamas are gone.
Everyone's gone. The only one left is Joe then I don't know
what he Joe probably had a smart deal. The whole thing didn't
work. The Influencers don't work. The celebrities don't
work. No one cares anymore.
John C Dvorak: You argue with me you're saying podcast is the
answer. And that's a podcasting operation. Oh,
Adam Curry: under no, those were exclusives. It was not a
podcasting operation. Their exclusive you couldn't get them
anywhere you get your podcasts. You see. You couldn't get the
Obamas on any podcast app. You couldn't get Meghan Markel. You
had to go to Spotify. That's the point. The Hollywood system
broke. No one cares. No one cares. They care about us. I
think kind of a little bit. Some people
John C Dvorak: a few was saying that no one cares.
Adam Curry: Because watching that they're not interested.
John C Dvorak: Here's what I think. No, it was crappy model.
It was yes. Stupid. Yes. It violated the principles of
podcasting. Yes, it's
Unknown: Hollywood model you and me on now.
Adam Curry: It's a Hollywood model. That's my point.
John C Dvorak: I don't think it's necessarily a Hollywood
model is a book publishing model. It's a publishing
Adam Curry: model. You can get your books anywhere. You can get
books on Amazon, you're only one publisher? No, it's they had to
distribution. It's not just the publishing they wanted to
constrict the distribution. You're not gonna argue with the
pod father. Seriously. Are you now?
John C Dvorak: No, I there's a flaw in your thinking. What's
the flaw?
Adam Curry: Okay, accepted. There's a flaw and we don't know
what it is. They followed the Hollywood model. They hired
Hollywood people to do a Hollywood thing where it's only
Oh, we have it all. You have to come to us to get it. That was
the flaw. That's the law. I'm
John C Dvorak: not gonna say that's not a huge flaw. It's a
mess. Yeah, but the bigger question, is there going to be
any Neumann mics available?
Adam Curry: I sure hope so. You know what, if there's anyone
within Spotify, we'd love to pick up a couple of cheap
Neumann mics we really and maybe, you know, I'm sure they
got some other gear. What else could we get from them? They
probably
John C Dvorak: probably have some nice mixers. I
Adam Curry: bet you they got some good chairs. Sure. The
chairs together. Yes, exactly. All right. Now the other big
news. I mean, just it just was nonstop, non stop. Finally, the
cyber pandemic has arrived.
Unknown: Tonight senior government officials are racing
to limit the impact of what one cyber expert is calling
potentially the largest theft and extortion event in recent
history. American targets include multiple federal
agencies, including the Department of Energy, plus Johns
Hopkins affiliated hospitals in Maryland and Florida, Georgia's
statewide university system and the Minnesota Department of
Education. British Airways was also hit. Officials say the
hackers are part of a cyber criminal gang called clop call
me to operate from inside Russia.
We've started already seeing some of the data that was stolen
as part of their work to date. These companies we strongly
encourage anyone who is a user of this software to of course
patch locked down their systems,
the cyber criminals are exploiting a software program
called Move it which companies and government agencies to
transfer data including personal information, the group steals
the data and in this message believed to be from the hackers
warns that if a ransom is not paid, after seven days, all your
data will start to be published sometimes on the dark web. Cyber
expert Brent callow says foreign adversaries and criminals will
be looking to leverage the data
overseas governments will no doubt be very interested in
obtaining the information or clop obtained through these
Adam Curry: Okay, couple things here first of all, clop clop
believed to be operating from Russia
Unknown: messages clear
Adam Curry: clip Yeah. So we got clop and then there's this
program called Move it now there's something missing from
the reporting here. The spate really this move it stuff from
what from what it looks like to me, you upload your files, their
encrypted 256, hash, hash, whatever, you know, the above,
on any one possibility, one of the many possibilities and it
probably works a bit like we transfer or whatever and so what
these companies are saying there was a data breach, but then how
do they know that these it's not your typical ransomware it's not
they haven't locked up computers it kind of you know, the
reporting borderlines on that. But they say no, you know, if
you don't pay us money, no mention of how much or how you
You're supposed to pay it. Usually they throw in Bitcoin.
Yeah, that has been basically mentioned missing from the
missing from them from the
Unknown: recording is terrible. And that's a harridge.
Adam Curry: But you know, so did they show somebody something
because they Oh, if you don't pay us, we're gonna start
leaking your information, maybe even on the dark web. So what
exactly? How do they know this? I mean, this is not an intrusion
into networks. This is a service. It's not as far as I
could tell. It is not a piece of software. It is it is a service
that people use. And of course, these guys got a government
approval. So all governments Whoa, sounds like a good idea.
Let's put it all on encrypted on AWS, or whatever they're using.
Okay. Yeah. You know, and everyone's jumping on board now
from Fox eight.
Unknown: This is a special report. Good morning, I'm
listening as we interrupt your programming to bring you this
breaking news from Homeland Security officials in Baton
Rouge after a massive data breach impacting all
Louisianians, especially those which Louisiana licenses, let's
listen, let's listen in
breaking governmental entities and organizations around the
world. Move it is a third party data transfer service that is
widely used to send large files. And it is at the center of this
very sophisticated breach very sophisticated. You've probably
already heard other national news reports about major
businesses and organizations dealing with this as well.
Yesterday morning, Governor Edwards held a unified command
group meeting in which he was briefed on the newly discovered
scale of this attack involving office of motor vehicle data.
Oh, no, he then felt it was imperative that we get this
information out to the public immediately so that folks could
take proactive measures. To be clear, we believe that all
Louisianians with a state issued driver's license ID or car
registration likely had data compromised.
Adam Curry: Now what does that mean? I mean, this this is, this
seems asinine. I don't even think this is not even related.
This I think that Joel Oh, you know, it was just throw this in
there. I'd love to know if any of our producers out there have
used move it and what it does exactly, but this whole thing
Unknown: stinks. like it'd be much different than Dropbox.
Adam Curry: I wouldn't think so. But it this whole thing stinks.
This doesn't make any sense. And the Department of Energy, or
whatever they do with the Department of Department of
Energy doesn't run your electricity. They don't they
don't they don't do that. So okay, so what did they have just
a government website? Did they get some important documents
from Granholm? I can tell you what they say. More hydrogen.
Now, it's not that hard to imagine. What
John C Dvorak: was the thing about the DT what DMV records?
What difference does it make? Exactly?
Take take I actually I think, you know, this is and by the
way, this was an evolutionary reporting. Yes. At first, when
it first came out. It was well blob. Oh, it's nuts into it. And
it's not Russia. We checked on that it's not Russia, then all
of a sudden became a flop as Russia claw Russia, but not
Russia now. But now it's not the Russian government. So we know
it's not the Russian government. Squat. clop clop I think, and
they've ended and the real thing that stands out like a sore
thumb to me. Is Johns Hopkins. Yes. spook. Out of the blue is
this this this this John, what and what other universities were
hacked? This is one of those stories you see where 30 people
are killed so they can execute one guy and it gets lost in the
shuffle. I think John Hopkins was a target for some reason.
And the rest of his all smoke screen just so we don't get we
don't start noticing Johns Hopkins.
Adam Curry: I like it makes a lot of sense.
John C Dvorak: And what did they get from Johns Hopkins? That's
what we need to know.
Adam Curry: Well, we're not you probably
John C Dvorak: have to tell us if it's kind of a front for the
intelligence groups any one of them. There's got to be
information that is come to light.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, the way it's played in the mainstream US
Department of Energy got ransom requests. Oh, I have I have a
ransom request for you. Excuse me. Thank you, Mister request. I
can't pay this. Sorry. Okay. Well, it was only a request
don't take it seriously. From the Russia linked extortion
group. Now it's an extortion In group Klop extortion group at
both its nuclear waste facility and scientific education
facility that were recently hit in a global hacking campaign.
See, these are all words that are all data was compromised at
the to DOE entities after hackers breached their systems
through a security. So this is different, did they they breach
their systems. But what are they in the network? After they they
breach their systems through a security flaw in the File
Transfer Tool, move it to transfer. The software is widely
used by organizations around the world to share sensitive data
that you used it? No, I've never even heard of it. We use SFTP
Well, I'm not I'm not an organization. Just a dude.
John C Dvorak: Do we know that it's widely used? I've never
heard of it either. From the
Adam Curry: US government department to the UK telecom
regulator and energy giant shell energy energy. A range of
victims has emerged since Burlington Massachusetts based
progress software found the security flaw in its move it
transfer product last month,
Unknown: last month, last month
Adam Curry: now, but now the wide ranging impact of it shows
how even the most security minded federal agencies are
struggling to defend against ransomware attacks. Ransomware
gangs typically scour for such widely used
John C Dvorak: tools. This is conflating two stories.
Ransomware we know how that works? Yeah, it doesn't work
through move it.
Adam Curry: Yeah. But here's a little here's a little more
interesting. Here we go. The Ransom requests. Ransom
John C Dvorak: isn't a ransom request is not the same as
ransomware.
Adam Curry: But it's also rented would be a ransom demand. Not a
request. Yeah, ransom.
John C Dvorak: Exactly. Do you agree?
Adam Curry: They demanded ransom. Oh, they requested why
are they using the word request? The Ransom requests to the
Department of Energy came in emails to each facility said the
spokesperson without revealing how much money was demanded what
what kind of request is that? They came in individually, not
as kind of a blind carbon copy. Oh, was targeted email. The two
entities that received them did not engage with clop. And there
was no indication the ransom requests were withdrawn. Now
that goes straight into the Department of Energy, which
manages US nuclear weapons and nuclear waste sites related to
the military. Yeah, they do a lot more than that. But okay.
They talk about battery cars notified Congress of the breach
and is participating in investigation with law
enforcement and the Cisar says ha, oh club did not respond to
requests for comment. But in a post, but in a post on its
website, wait a minute, club has a website?
Unknown: Do they have a spokesperson?
Adam Curry: Well, they Well, they didn't respond to requests
for comments. They must have a pr@clop.org I guess. The posts
on his website. It said yeah, it said all caps. We don't have a
god you don't have any government data. God do a
Russian voice and suggested that should the hackers inadvertently
have picked up such data in their mass theft. We still do
the polite thing and delete all
John C Dvorak: their polite side is this. Hackers are these Oh
wow. This is a scam
Adam Curry: Recorded Future analyst Alan Liska said clop was
likely making a big deal out of how they purportedly deleted
government data in an attempt to protect themselves from
retaliation from Washington and other governments. This is horse
crap. Like massive loads of it too. Now, I don't the whole
thing with bullet
John C Dvorak: point again, I shot again, Johns Hopkins. This
shows up as the sore red flag on this.
Adam Curry: Let's just listen one more time to the witch
school. It was
Unknown: knights senior government officials are racing
to limit the impact of what one cyber expert is calling
potentially the largest theft and extortion event in recent
history. American targets include multiple federal
agencies, including the Department of Energy, plus Johns
Hopkins affiliated hospitals in Maryland and Florida
Adam Curry: affiliated hospitals, affiliated hospitals
in Maryland. So
Unknown: Georgia's statewide university system,
Maryland and Florida.
Adam Curry: Maryland. I don't that's interesting. I mean,
there's a lot more they don't mention any of the other one.
one's there. Here we go Johns Hopkins what we do? That's a
children's hospital I think in St. Petersburg, Florida. Yep, I
don't know. The whole thing is weird. And I was hoping it would
fit into Klaus, you know, we all know,
Unknown: but still pay insufficient attention
insufficient. Is there a frightening scenario of a
comprehensive cyber attack, which would bring to a complete
halt to the power supply? Transportation, hospitals
services, our society as a whole. Oh, by 19 crisis would be
seen in this respect as a small disturbance in comparison to a
major cyber attack, to use COVID-19 guises as a timely
opportunity to reflect on the lessons cybersecurity community
can draw and improve our preparedness for potential cyber
pandemic.
Adam Curry: It could just be a beginning of a setup create a
bit of tension like Oh, everywhere. Oh, I got my
driver's license who? Oh, gum Hill. Yeah, something like that.
That by coincidence, if there is such a thing, President Obama
was on The X Files podcast. You know, David Axelrod, his
handler, does the X Files for CNN Podcast Network. And they
were talking about the digital ID I think, in in a backhanded
way.
Unknown: This is disruptive for our economy. They're even close
to the issues we were talking about before. In terms of
misinformation, disinformation, fakes. I've seen a few of
you. Yes, I've told people because I was the first digital
president when I left office as probably the most recorded
filmed photograph human in
Adam Curry: women. Is that a moniker he was given the first
digital president? Not that I recall, I think it was Bill
Clinton, who helped get the Bill Clinton was the
Unknown: first black president. Sorry, you're
I've seen I've seen a few of you. Yes. I've told people
because I was the first digital president when I left office as
probably the most recorded filmed photograph human in
history, which is kind of a weird thing. Yes.
Adam Curry: Human not out human in history.
Unknown: A human human really.
Adam Curry: You don't sweat Barak know if you're human
Unknown: in history, which is kind of a weird thing. Yes. I
just the odds are that I was as consequence,
Adam Curry: the odds are that I this is aggrandizement on quite
a scale the odds are that I was just don't argue with me acts
just handle me.
Unknown: Yes, I just the odds are that I was as consequence,
there's a lot of raw material there. So usually, all the
defects start with like some version of Obama doing something
dancing, saying, dirty limericks are some version
John C Dvorak: of Obama. Is that what he said? Yeah, he's seeing
himself in the third person. Yes,
Adam Curry: of course. The you know, Obama, the personal
version of Obama. Yeah. By the way, that didn't work. Those
weren't deep fakes. We just the people just edited your audio
book in a different order. We remember the Obama deep fakes
now, just all the swear words all the cuss words you put in
your audio book people put them together was hilarious. Not a
deep fake. Not a deep fake.
Unknown: There's plenty of those not a deep fake misusing the
term Yes.
Usually all the defects start with like some version of Obama
doing something dancing, saying dirty limericks are.
Adam Curry: Right, there was plenty of you dancing, Mr.
President,
Unknown: that technology is here now.
Adam Curry: That technology is here now. Most immediately,
Unknown: we're going to have all the problems we had with
misinformation before this next election cycle will be worse.
Adam Curry: Okay, so now we need to do something about a problem
reaction
Unknown: and the need for us, for the general public, I think
to be more discriminating consumers of news and
information, the need for us to over time develop technologies
create watermarks or digital fingerprints so we know what is
true and what is not true
Adam Curry: digital fingerprints. That sounds like a
digital ID to me. Yeah.
Unknown: He's talking about
Adam Curry: Well, no, he doesn't but
John C Dvorak: then there's so much on Biden that they, you
know, just him. No, I have tons of clips.
Adam Curry: Let's do some but I have let's do some Biden AI.
Unknown: Well, I do have a bite. You have a Biden AI? No.
Adam Curry: You said you got clips. I mean, Biden. I
John C Dvorak: got clips but I also have one Biden AI.
Adam Curry: No, I have no Biden AI.
John C Dvorak: Oh, okay. Well, I have this. I figured that, you
know, he's bringing up these. This is a I think it's a salvo.
So he sends it out. You know, we're gonna have a lot of fake
stuff going on. But no, but the Biden stuff is all real. It's
real. There is a fake one that they tried to push out which
it's kind of funny. It's Biden and Trump debating this is the
try Biden column Biden clear caulk fake caucus so massive. I
mean, it is possibly the biggest cock I have ever seen it.
Unknown: respond very quickly, and then I'll get to my
question.
Why did he he's been saying this caucus massive for four years.
Show us just show us stop playing around.
Adam Curry: It's lewd, it's lewd. Therefore. It's just a
borderline but man. He got me with that one. I had not heard
that one. You were familiar? No, I'm not familiar with the
cockfight? No, that is massive. Yeah, you should stop. Just stop
talking about it. Show it already. Yeah. This is This is
America. This is what we do with technology. We're not gonna
we're not going to try and fake you. We're gonna make you laugh.
And no one's falling for it. Oh, oh, man. I think they're really
talking about that. What do you think? I won 12 Second Biden AI
clip because this obviously couldn't be an actual President
of the United States talking here about pistols and pistol
braces
Unknown: made it harder for people to buy stabilized brace
braces, put a pistol on a brace turns into a gun. Makes it more
you can have a higher caliber weapon or a higher caliber
bullet coming out of that gun.
Adam Curry: Okay, sorry for the one channel.
John C Dvorak: It was let's do some real Biden clip.
Adam Curry: That was a real clip.
Unknown: Oh, that was him actually. Yeah. What an idiot.
He
Adam Curry: says if you put a brace on a pistol, it turns
Unknown: into more caliber guns into
Adam Curry: a real gun. And then you get more caliber Higher,
higher caliber bullet coming out of it.
John C Dvorak: All right. Well, I got it. But I've got a bunch
of clips. Here we go. I don't do these as much as I used to
Adam Curry: when we've been missing them. But seeing as the
president is out there on the campaign trail, he's might as
well
John C Dvorak: bumbling and fumbling his way through okay,
here's where you start with 8%.
Unknown: But you have we have 1000 billionaires in America
know the average tax rate they pay? Eight AIGA is
Adam Curry: percent 8% AA 8% 1000 billion or eight e
IG H
Unknown: E IG H Wow.
Adam Curry: That's that's almost respectable.
John C Dvorak: So here we go with 54 states.
Unknown: And by the way, if they do that means not a joke,
everybody. That's why we were defeated in 2018. When they
tried to do we went to 54 states.
Adam Curry: Now, okay, so we've been through this with Obama.
And Obama also had the, you know, we have 58 states, but
that's when they somehow in Washington DC. They, they take
the territories into account, and then these and so normal for
them, they just for some reason, they all wind up making this
mistake. It's weird, because I think was 58 with Obama. Let me
see
Unknown: those 58 or 54
Adam Curry: I see Obama was at 54 I can't find anything on it.
John C Dvorak: Or let's go on. Here's by OBO Biden.
Adam Curry: You said Joe Biden, back in the groove? Yeah, baby.
Unknown: Indian OSHA. This
Adam Curry: is this classic.
Unknown: We're gonna win and we're gonna help we have plans
to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the
the notion we have plans to build in in Angola one of the
largest solar plants in the world. I can go on but I'm not
I'm going off script. I'm gonna get in trouble.
Adam Curry: So it's going under the under the Indian Ocean. This
is dynamite from
John C Dvorak: the Pacific. How's that work? Okay, well,
Adam Curry: we understand what he meant. So give him a break.
Yeah, he's old. Give him a break. I mean, that
John C Dvorak: is just the last clip that I want everyone out
there who likes to do songs you know, put together into show
mixes. I don't know why we this is not new. I don't know why we
never caught it before. I don't remember it guys Sherwood
because it reminds me of the old Obama. No, no, no. This is by
ain't doing it.
Unknown: As I said last week we remain in the battle for the
soul of America, by the way all right God love you. Let him go.
Let him go NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO don't let him go.
Everybody's entitled being an idiot. Wow, no, everybody's
going.
Adam Curry: Oh man, let me do that. That's a great sequence.
Oops sorry.
Unknown: No, no no no no no no no no no no no don't let him go
I
Adam Curry: love I love that that's perfect.
Unknown: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO don't let him go.
I've been watching you No no, no, no, no, no no. Go I love
Adam Curry: that kind of works. Love it. Oh man. Good one it
good. That is
Unknown: a gem.
Adam Curry: That its beauty. And he got it's literally he got
stuck.
Unknown: He is stuck
Adam Curry: not an n n n n n n and you know like a digital it
was digital digital glitch. It was glitching Biden to the
Eidelman I think glitch Biden glitch Gaiden glitch there you
go by this was years not
John C Dvorak: as good but it says he does say instead of
trends. Charter says transistor Americans
Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, no, that's impossible. He did not
say transistor Americans. Tell me that's not true. As Commander
Unknown: in Chief, I was proud to have ended the ban on
transistor Americans,
Adam Curry: though he says trans jester
John C Dvorak: this transistor and then he corrects himself
hold
Unknown: on as commander in chief I was proud of and as the
ban on transistor Americans transgender Americans serving
that's the that's the same when we played as commander in chief.
I was proud to have ended the ban on transgender Americans
trans gesture
now I'm hearing treads joke Okay, no.
Adam Curry: Trans jester is a hit.
John C Dvorak: Okay, let's go to the left does the last of the
Biden was that I do have a couple of to dos that I like to
interject. Kudo does this do?
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, he's it's the same programming.
John C Dvorak: So let's go with this. stump speech, which is
just a mess.
Unknown: You know what I get when I were talking about the
fentanyl the border and all that. I speak to the president
Mexico. Will you stop sending guns to us? We are sending
dangerous weapons, particularly solos to Mexico, New Mexico, are
asking us please stop it. Cut it off at the border. But in God's
name, we could be coming if we don't do this. Now as some of
you know, I'd usually come down and say hi to Oliver. They tell
me there's a storm I'll
Adam Curry: just stop here for a second. But the government has
been sending weapons to Mexico it was called Fast and Furious.
Was it not?
Unknown: Yeah, hello.
Adam Curry: That's exactly what we do. And so now does his Biden
not read in on this?
John C Dvorak: I don't think Biden has been read in on it.
Adam Curry: I guess it didn't stop Wow, what did
Unknown: God's name we becoming if we don't do this now, Shana?
You know, I'd usually come down and say Hi, Doctor. They tell me
there's a storm coming in. Is that right? Is still Is that
still the deal? That's the truth now don't make a lie. As that
said that scene in John Wayne movie don't make me a dog face
why and pony soldier All right. God save the Queen man.
Adam Curry: Let's let's listen to his OG of that.
Unknown: Number one. I was a Democratic caucus. Member of
caucus no you haven't your lion dog faced pony stores.
Adam Curry: That's why that's the line lion dog faced pony
soldier. He can't even get that out anymore. Let's Let's do it
again.
Unknown: Is that right is still Is that still the deal? That's
the truth. Now don't make a lie. As that said that scene in John
Wayne movie. Don't make me a dog face. Why and ponies? Oh,
Adam Curry: no, I got it. No, he did it. He did it.
Unknown: All right. God save the Queen man.
Adam Curry: What was that about?
John C Dvorak: That that's the big mystery God Save the Queen.
To hell is that about? Alright, two more and we're done. We're
Adam Curry: just gonna I guess everyone just ignores that in
the mainstream. Like didn't really happen. I
John C Dvorak: know. None of this ever happened. Okay. All
right. You have to listen to the no agenda show to get a you know
a little few of these once in a while.
Adam Curry: Yeah, to have to have a chuckle.
John C Dvorak: God save the Queen. Yes. Here's Trudeau on
masks.
Unknown: If people want to wear a mask, that is okay. Because it
prevents you from breathing or it's Speaking up turned moistly
on them.
Adam Curry: He said moistly a big millennial. No, no. I can't
believe you said that. All right. Yes. Good. Good.
Unknown: Here's him talking about water bottle
water bottles out of water out of when we have water bottles
out of a plastic. Sorry, away from plastic towards paper. Like
drink box water bottle.
Adam Curry: Oh man. It's just also sad. It's also sad. All
these people that just sad. Just said I do have another Biden
this was I love this one and you didn't get this one. Okay, okay,
we've mobilized
Unknown: the world's leading emitters to help poor countries
deal with the impacts of climate change. They call it the g7 the
bill back Biden bill back better than we realize that got
confusing. Yeah, now we don't call it that. We call it this.
Here's the bottom line. Look, we're the ones that caused the
problem. The United States we cleared all our land we did all
the things to make our make things more easy for us to make
money.
Adam Curry: I don't know what he's saying. But I just love
Unknown: like day hell is he saying? I'd like to build back
Biden deal
with impact.
Adam Curry: What do we call it?
Unknown: They call it the g7 the bill back Biden bill back better
Adam Curry: the bill back by noon
what a narcissist can only think of himself build back Biden.
Yeah, yeah. Well, this brings us to unless you have more.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, definitely. No, my Biden bit a little bit of
Adam Curry: AI news for you. Since it's hot and everything.
Everything now is AI everything is AI. I mean, I'm using a
program to play jingles AI man. It's all AI Photoshop AI. Yeah,
see, I use Microsoft Word AI. It's all AI.
Unknown: There are new rules at the Grammys with the brave new
world of artificial intelligence in mind. The Recording Academy
says only human creators are eligible for an award. However,
not all AI is banned. A human just has to contribute content
that is, quote, meaningful, and relevant. However, that's
measured.
Adam Curry: I mean, it's just blather now. Just black.
Everything I hear in Mute. Everything you hear music, by
definition, has run through algorithms processing
algorithms, if you're worried called all AI, samplers, I mean,
this is it's so not new, but is old. It's old news. But okay,
gives ABC a reason to do this one, an
Unknown: eye opening survey about artificial intelligence.
Also a little scary.
Some of the world's top CEOs gathered at a summit and a
survey found 42% of them believe that artificial intelligence
could destroy humanity in the next five to 10 years. For some
of those same executives are approving job cuts directly
related to using AI What can possibly go wrong? Interesting,
because we'll have to wait and see.
Adam Curry: I wish they would say that about climate change.
Oh, five to 10 years, we're all gonna die. Well, it gets we
don't have to worry about climate change is always all AI
is going to eat the world. And so we talked on the last show
about the European Union, and that they are putting together
rules, rules against AI. And what they're really talking
about is facial recognition. Which I guess if you want to
call that AI Alright, call it AI. Claire Daly. Luckily, she
stands up and she says, yeah, it's unbelievable. We get into
my beat the real socialists we love her. Oh, did you have this
clip? No, no. Claire gets up and she talks about facial
recognition and she drops a little bomb in there about
what's really happening. It's exactly what we said would be
happening.
Unknown: AI is being sold to us as the latest in a series of
groundbreaking technological leaps. It'll make our lives
easier, it'll make the world a better place. Well Don't believe
the hype. Like so much before us AI will be used for surveillance
and control. It won't give us a four day working week or longer
summer holidays. It won't solve the climate crisis or
redistribute wealth. It won't make public services better or
policing more effective, it will be just more of the same, but
faster, and probably much worse that judicial systems around the
world are exploring using AI and judicial decision making should
scare the hell out of us that Ukraine has been held up as a
living lab for AI warfare is frightening. We should be
approaching this subject cautiously, like every new
technology instead, we're far too quick to follow industry,
governments Across Europe are chomping at the bit to use
facial recognition to hell with people's rights the Irish
government of MEP so we're in coming in here saying they
disagree with a put their moving legislation before a possible EU
ban. The EPP should be ashamed of themselves for reneging on
the heart hours of negotiation. Committee.
Adam Curry: There it is. There it is. So while they're working
on a ban, they're moving in legislation to use it. Yeah.
Surprise surprise, to use it everywhere. And Mizel mentioned
this question has been emailed to me so much I'm surprised that
no agenda producers I mean, they know this stuff, but still they
won't email it to me so I will mention this poor customer who
is all in on Amazon. He has the ring doorbell he's got the door
locks he's got the Alexa he's got all everything all connected
to Amazon. Particularly the the smart one is the ring doorbell
which is a spy device, and the locks. And I guess you can
program your ring doorbell was something funny. You can have it
say funny stuff like hey, oh, man, leave it there. You know,
maybe a Fred Sanford type voice you can you know, whatever if
someone just rings the doorbell with a package. And so a
delivery person delivered a package and the doorbell he
thought the doorbell said something that was racist. So he
reported it back to Amazon HQ. And Amazon pulled the plug on
the guy's account and of course locked him out of his house now
probably wouldn't let him turn on his lights. And it's like,
ah, like don't do this people. How many floors reminded
John C Dvorak: you know, of all the people that are all you
know, wired to the gills with you know, you can just drive by
drive by door opener you know, there's all these kids you get a
one of these universal garage door openers you just drive down
the street open everybody's garage door. doll is it being
dependent on any of that stuff. It's just asking for vandals to
just have a tough time in their life.
Adam Curry: I love the troll room correcting me it was the up
board doorbell ring. He said can I help you? Okay, you get the
point. Here's another great piece of AI. So someone
unleashed AI, a journalist Joseph Martens and sent me an
email, I'm sure a I did this forum. Joseph Martin's. My name
is Joseph Martens. I'm a journalist with The Times News
Express, an online newspaper. I was conducting research for an
article I wrote and came across this link. And links to a no
agenda Show episode, I wrote an article troubleshooting guide
for common laptop issues on the New Times News expression, and
would like to link back to your website as a resource for the
article. In return, I would highly appreciate if you could
link add a link back to one of my websites. You could get
additional publicity rank higher on Google. So I go and take a
look. Well, what what he must have he obviously got some
information from us. It's no agenda Show episode 797 titled
laptop bomb. I mean, come on people. This is not this is not
smart AI.
John C Dvorak: First of all, first of all, having run a blog
for a decade. Yes, you've seen this old you've seen these
requests. 10 years ago, I was getting these notes that always
come from someone with a phony baloney. They say we saw the
link Yeah. And it's some link from a blog post that's five
years old that no one has ever opened.
Adam Curry: It has gotten odd has Google juice somehow I think
that well I think that's
John C Dvorak: they might you know they did stem with a
scraper I don't know how they do it. But what it is, but it's a
form letter. It's not AI generated by any means.
Adam Curry: I was just formed letter. Thanks, John. I was just
kind of joking around and being okay, well,
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying these guys keep doing this. And
it's like it when you respond to them. Which I stupidly did once
again, you responded to nothing because nobody home it's like,
Don't kid yourself. They just want to look at for free Linksys
I don't know if this is a trick. I don't know Does anyone do this
but buy into this bullcrap? You didn't
Adam Curry: know of course not. I just thought it was anybody
ever thought was interesting that they literally searched for
laptop and then didn't even see the laptop bomb. That seems like
it wouldn't go along with troubleshooting your laptop
story.
John C Dvorak: Tim and Joe saying you'll do it for 500
bucks
Adam Curry: that's what I would say I still have diaries.com and
do ya about twice a week? I'll get an email I'm highly
interested in buying this domain name well, no one's ever no
one's ever taken me up on my my price. A surprise one one
bitcoin which I think is decent. One Bitcoin. That's all I ask.
John C Dvorak: Do you know that art.com I learned this when I
was doing silicone spin. Because the guy bone do their art.com
sold for a million dollars. Well, that's nothing. That's
nothing in the or Well, no, it's true. It's not it's there are
during the heyday of domain name sales before they came up with
all these new domain domain domain names. They were selling
for a million dollars and associate your price of a one
Bitcoin for diaries.com is reasonable.
Adam Curry: Cuban sold broadcast.com for a billion.
Basically. That's what I mean. I mean, I've been offered a lot
for curry.com. But no one Navid I can't sell that my whole life
is it's my identity man.
Unknown: Who would put everyone has a price?
Adam Curry: No, I don't think so.
John C Dvorak: 10 million bucks. Cash. Cash Money.
Adam Curry: You're my man. Come on over here. Let's party. 10
million. No one's gonna spend $10 million.
John C Dvorak: Would you do it for 10 million cash money?
Adam Curry: Cash Money? Yeah,
Unknown: I guess I would. Okay, there. Yeah. But it would
Adam Curry: I mean, five wouldn't be enough.
Unknown: But 10 Yeah,
Adam Curry: I don't. That's when my scruples drop away. Yeah, I
think I think I'd have to Yeah, 10 is a lot of money. I could
stop doing this podcast. You probably wouldn't. That's how
dumb I am
John C Dvorak: to be doing a podcast but you also have $10
million in the bank. Cash Money.
Adam Curry: Yeah, for what it's worth for as long as it's still
worth 10 10 million. Just Just watch it dwindle away. All
right, so just related to Amazon. There's another strike
looming this one might be this one might get interesting. And
of course, the story doesn't explain what it's what the
problem is. But we all love our UPS drivers and and they are
part of the Teamsters I believe so this is this could be a
pretty big strike. Gil Guzman
Unknown: has been driving for ups for 23 years did you vote to
authorize the strike? I did. We're the best in the business
is how to get paid later. He's one of 330,000 employees who
want wage increases and more full time jobs.
We work hard, we work hard for our job. We work hard for this
company. We move this country around.
UPS is the biggest shipping company in the US around 6% of
the nation's gross domestic product passes through its brown
vans, nationwide, drivers deliver nearly 90 million
packages every single day. And a halt in operations would cause
major supply chain disruptions.
The reason we call the chain is that it's so integrated so any
strike, especially the long lasting strike
could have a devastating effect. Most of the summer, back to
schools and upcoming holidays,
the boom in online shopping during the pandemic is still
going strong, resulting in record profits for the company.
So why not share with your employees? Drivers already won a
big concession this week when UPS agreed to install air
conditioning in its trucks. If you could say one thing to the
people who are in the negotiating room, what would you
want them to know from you
just don't mess it up. You got 330,000 Strong UPS is that give
their blood sweat and tears for this company and both sides this
is working out and make it happen.
Now a strike is not a guarantee at this point in the negotiation
and UPS says it is aligned with its workers on many key issues
and it is committed to reaching a deal before this contract
expires at the end of July.
Adam Curry: Now, this is a very shallow report. I dove into
this. I like UPS. I like the guys and gals who drive ups,
just our air conditioning Come on. Their whole system is built
around their open SR open truck. These guys love it. They're not
looking for air conditioning. But they had a vote on something
a year and a half ago I think and even though 54% voted
against accepting the contract at that point it was two years
ago. Somehow some technicality in the rule said well, you've
got to have three quarters of them have to be voting were some
some they pulled some fast one on. But the real problem is most
of these packages that nowadays are Amazon, Amazon packages. And
all of this is outsourced to UPS and to FedEx when the United
States Postal Service which has its own problems related to
technology and how how they're you know people are not getting
paid anymore especially the rural carriers many of them
listen to no agenda. But with the UPS guys and gals, they
they're outsourcing a lot of these Amazon packages to some
dude and a Honda Civic to they're getting the gig economy
workers who get paid much less you can get I think it's 21 or
$22 an hour when you start with UPS including benefits you know,
retirement package, it was like truly, the blue collar is like
Doug Hernan you know from King of Queens like this. This was no
college needed you can drive was a Good company, and now they're
just undercutting everybody. I think if you're there for four
years you make $40 an hour, or 45 is a good job, comparatively
speaking. But they're what they're not saying is that UPS
is just, you know, giving to Uber drivers. Basically. That's
that's going to destroy these jobs. I think.
John C Dvorak: We'll I haven't looked into it. So I have no
idea what's really going on. We have Amazon trucks all over the
place. Those things are a plague.
Adam Curry: You're a plague get rid of I'm bringing the Honda
Civics.
John C Dvorak: And those are all operated by I think you've fed
UPS may own some of them. These are the subcontractors that
nobody you've seen Amazon truck and you say, well, it's some
guy. Independent guy bought a truck? No. They tend to be part
of a team of trucks at some one company, a small delivery
company that has bought 25 trucks. No a UPS trucks. No
Amazon.
Adam Curry: Oh, Amazon. Yeah. Well, I think the future for
this upcoming for the Zoomer generation is you will have a
Honda Civic. You will live in your Honda Civic because you
can't afford to live anywhere else. You'll be driving Uber
Uber Eats. Ups. You'll have your your spatial computing with your
your apple vision Pro. That's the future.
John C Dvorak: That's gonna be a delivery van. You'll be happy.
Caught in the back.
Unknown: Exactly.
Adam Curry: I can totally see that
John C Dvorak: dystopian view of things, but yeah, it's elements
of that. Taking
Adam Curry: place. We're moving that we're moving in that
direction, it seems seems clear.
Unknown: Bill Gates went to China.
Adam Curry: Yeah, he did. He was he looked really autistic.
Unknown: No, he is autistic.
Adam Curry: I know, but he looked really autistic. Now in
that chair.
John C Dvorak: Though, here's the reason why the NTD did
probably we'll have to say NTD would do the best job reporting
on this. Oops, sorry. I had it. And so let's start with the NTD
reports. And it goes into an analysis. That's interesting.
Adam Curry: I'm looking for an
Unknown: okay gates in China.
One Microsoft's co founder Bill Gates, that was Chinese leader
Xi Jinping on Friday. This comes just one day after the Gates
Foundation pledged a $50 million donation to a Chinese Medical
Research Institute. The meeting took place at Beijing's
Diaoyutai state guesthouse, a diplomatic complex used to house
foreign dignitaries. She called gates an old friend saying that
he was happy to see the business magnate after three years. Gates
on the same token said he was honored to meet with Xi, adding
that there's a lot of important topics to discuss. The Chinese
medical research institute that's receiving the grant is
called a GH DDI. It was first established in 2016. With the
help of the Gates Foundation, China's elite Qi university and
the city of Beijing. The $50 million from the Bill and
Melinda Gates Foundation is slated to bolster its drug
research capacity over the next five years. Gates his connection
with Beijing goes beyond GH DDI. Microsoft has been in China for
more than 30 years, and has a large research center there. Its
web portal Bing is the only China accessible foreign search
engine. As the regime tightens its grip on the nation's digital
sector beings search results on a number of sensitive topics
have been censored cybersecurity Research Group Citizen Lab found
that Bing also restricts certain Chinese search results for us
users
Adam Curry: not to be confused with being at.io.
John C Dvorak: No, not to be confused. no censorship there.
So I didn't know that being censored is stuff that you if
you let us being here in the US of A you're gonna get you're not
gonna get your Chinese information very accurately.
Adam Curry: Well, that doesn't surprise me. I don't trust any
search engine.
Unknown: surprises me. Or two,
Adam Curry: do you use Bing regularly?
Unknown: I use DuckDuckGo.
Worth noting it's rare for a Chinese leader to meet with a
foreign business leader. Just recently Apple CEO Tim Cook, and
Tesla CEO Elon Musk both visited China, but Gates is the only one
who got to meet with Xi Jinping.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. No, go. Didn't
McCrone. McCrone got to meet him. McCrone
Unknown: but the point was they are business leaders don't get
to meet with him. I agree. Crozet leaders McCrone Yeah.
Macron is just a crony so interesting. Tim Cook got
stiffed and so didn't Elon Elon
John C Dvorak: today brought this guy on who do wrote the
book wireless wars, who's an analyst and he goes off to
discuss interpretations of what's really going on with
gates and the fact that it appears that a geisha selling
out the United States is you want me to go to China to clip
four clips, three clips, three giant, I put four is got
wireless words that to remove I forgot to put on a clip to
remind me who to say this guy was alright, so here we go. So
Bill
Unknown: Gates is in China, he met with Xi Jinping, who
actually called him his first American friend that he met in
Beijing. What do you make of this close relationship, though?
A friend of China is a term that is not actually complimentary
term a friend of China is someone who is on board with
China's objectives and goals is aligned is in harmony with what
China is trying to achieve when it's just the ego stroking and
the alignment, which is probably what the case is with Bill
Gates. They become a friend of China. And it's, it's sad, it's
not necessarily a good thing, because when you look at who
you're aligning yourself with, it's really a friend of the CCP
is what they mean not a friend to the Chinese people.
Adam Curry: By the way, duck, duck go. They say we largely
source from Bing.
Unknown: Yeah, well, it's probably true. But the word
largely as the CO operative. Yeah. And
Adam Curry: the rest is Wikipedia. Oh, that sounds good.
Unknown: I think they get a lot of stuff from Google, even
though like I'm sure they
Adam Curry: do and TripAdvisor music Max.
Okay, so he's friends with CCP.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, just as gay. So let's go to clip four
when you wrap this.
Unknown: And on that note, it seems China has been rolling out
this red carpet for businesses, especially business leaders. We
saw Elon Musk there, Jamie Dimon with JPMorgan Chase, and then
giving kind of the cold shoulder to the White House. What do you
make of that kind of message coming out of China?
It's kind of a funny thing. They know, they've always known that
the businesses and capitalist societies are there to make
profits. The government side is just very different. It's not
pursuing even though commerce wants growing markets for
American suppliers and good markets. For vendors to America.
There's a very different agenda for the for the government.
Adam Curry: Right, so how are they going to square that with
with our I mean, the business of America is business. How are
they going to square this saber rattling? They're doing I have a
clip about China. I
John C Dvorak: will play that clip. But for i But to answer
your question, I think that they're not going to square it.
I think this situation is going to worsen.
Adam Curry: That doesn't sound like a smart idea. While this is
similar to something you played on the last show, I think short.
Unknown: Overseas tonight a high stakes diplomatic mission to
China for a Secretary of State Antony Blinken. Blinken is
expected to meet with several Chinese officials over the
weekend. He's the first Secretary of State to make the
trip in five years. And President Biden saying today
that he's hoping to meet with China's President Xi soon is
coming amid escalating tensions between the two countries.
Adam Curry: So the Biden administration is just going to
let all these companies rot like Nah, we're just gonna do
whatever we need to do and screw you with your business.
John C Dvorak: Well, this other guy, this, this wireless
Adam Curry: wired wars guider,
John C Dvorak: he goes on about the supply chain issues that are
going to happen. It was just, it's hard to just all of a
sudden, I mean, theoretically, you should just say, Well, screw
China, they're useless. I stopped doing business with him.
But the problem is everything for the last 25 or 30 years, has
got China components or this made in China or no, we're not
pretending that we did it but it's actually Chinese and we
brought it over. We don't I mean, you know, the one of the
best things I've heard recently is listening to Gavin Newsom.
Adam Curry: Sean Hannity.
John C Dvorak: On Hannity. Yeah. Did you get Hannity? No, I don't
have any clips. I didn't want to get clips of that. I Hannity was
flat footed. And Newsom was just lording it over him and making
it sound like California is the fastest growing juggernaut of a
state and he because he had all these stats, you know,
statistics lie. So you is like saying the crime rates in San
Francisco have gone way down. And you can find stats
Adam Curry: where they have because the businesses are all
gone. So how can just nothing
John C Dvorak: So they have so you have this situation. And so
there's an element of denialism about China, and how they pretty
much own the United States. And so far as the supply chain is
concerned, and there's nothing we can do about it, nothing
because we can't crank all this stuff up, but we do. We I think
we've lost the skill sets that the Chinese have been developing
the manufacturing that we, you know, we don't, right, but
Adam Curry: I just don't understand they're
John C Dvorak: learning about emotions. They're not learning
how to be a machinist.
Adam Curry: So you're telling me that all this saber rattling
that we're doing, which is clearly going to hurt American
business is purely to keep the power of the White House and
what I mean? What else? What other reason is there for them
to do this? I can't think of any, because it just it makes no
sense. No, is it all just ego?
John C Dvorak: And as to be, or naivete we have to remember you
have a President of the United States has never worked a day in
his life. He's never worked in a factory. He's never worked on an
assembly line. He's never worked as a carpenter. He wasn't
building houses. He wasn't in a shag metal shop. You got Harry
wasn't even a paperboy from all I can tell was a lifeguard
Adam Curry: he has hairy legs. Yeah, he got beat up corn pop.
Well, actually, the ego thing there may be something to it.
This is short clip. This is a Korean John Claude Van Damme
Pierre being interviewed because of course, that's what this is
how Saki ended when they start doing interviews in there with
you know, with just as somehow it's kind of sickening for the
press. What was it called? He spoke tolls are we call them but
what is it
Unknown: press secretary press secretary,
Adam Curry: secretary press secretary to be doing interviews
about themselves. It's something that just isn't something you
just don't do.
John C Dvorak: Maybe it's exactly what you think, ego,
which is that this is the strategy to get rid of her. I
mean, you said sock, he started doing this again. Yeah, well,
okay. This might be the end for I think she's already violated
the Hatch Act. We haven't talked about that on the show. Explain
the Hatch Act. It says that, as a government worker, you cannot
take part in partisan politics, right. So in other words, if
you're working for the State Department, you can start
stamping letters and get reelected as Joe Biden and you
can add dressing envelopes and sending them off while you're
working there. And she violated the Hatch Act about I don't know
two or three weeks ago, when she went off on Magga Republicans
met Megan Magadan, blah, blah. She went on off on it and
somebody realized that this was a violation of the Hass Hatch
Act she was doing.
Adam Curry: I have I have it here. I have a clip he
Unknown: has been clear democracy is under assault, and
we cannot pretend otherwise. The President will continue to call
attention to the threat to democracy, democratic integrity,
and to public safety posed by those who deny the documented
truth about election results, and those who seek to undermine
public faith in our system of government. Unfortunately, we
have seen mega mega Republican officials who don't believe in
the rule of law. They refuse to accept the results of free and
fair elections.
Adam Curry: That was it that was the violation of the Hatch Act,
John C Dvorak: then that was a clear violation of the Hatch
Act. And she should have been then they know it they don't
know what to do about it. They should find her or fire her or
something should be done. But again, you know, they don't know
what to do because oh god what are we going to do is so you
can't you can't fire
Adam Curry: her she marks he checks off too many boxes.
There's no way
John C Dvorak: she'd have to hire a lesbian My God well,
black lesbian. Hello. Wait, black lesbian is so rare, he or
she is her 21
Adam Curry: second to reply about how well you'll hear it a
Unknown: year in this role. There's been a couple of things
that I that has made me incredibly proud many things
many things have made me incredibly proud to be at that
podium during this historic moment. Again, this is a
historic administration. I'm a historic figure and I this
glossary everyday but this is also the historic making
administration because of this
Adam Curry: president I'm a historic person
John C Dvorak: that is unprecedented okay, you get a
clip of the day for that.
Adam Curry: Oh, thank you if she is a historic person everybody
John C Dvorak: unbelievable what an ego test okay, so she's this
big historic person because she's a black lesbian. Okay,
from Haiti or wherever the hell she's from.
Adam Curry: Yes. Someone sent me a
John C Dvorak: anyway by the way she but she's in violation of
the Hatch Act she should be terminated continue to terminate
terminate. Ah, terminate.
Adam Curry: Someone sent me a passage from 1984. The who
doesn't know it the book by George Orwell. I think a lot of
people know the book, but I don't know how many people
actually read it.
John C Dvorak: Great book to read, I would recommend reading
it. I would say there's a number of books. I would say reading
that in the Huxley book is another book you must read. Yes.
Which is what is it called? I can't even remember. Brave New
World. Brave New World is much read 1984 is a must must Neopost
Adam Curry: amusing ourselves to death would also be another one.
It's all in no agenda book. club.com I think is where we
have all of these.
John C Dvorak: And I would say if you don't want to read the
1984 book, The movie is good too. In fact, the movie may be
creepier.
Adam Curry: From the book, the protagonist Winston Smith says
they had played a similar trick with the instinct of parenthood,
the family could not actually be abolished, and indeed, people
were encouraged to be fond of their children in almost the old
fashioned way. The children on the other hand, were
systematically turned against their parents and taught to spy
on them and report their deviations. The family had
become an effect an extension of the thought police pronouns
anyone, the antagonist O'Brien. We have cut the links between
child and parent and between man and man and between man and
woman, no one dares trust a wife or child or friend any longer,
but in the future, there will be no wives and no friends children
will be taken from their mothers at birth, as one takes eggs from
a hen the sex instincts will be eradicated. Procreation will be
an annual formality like the renewal of a ration card. We
shall abolish the orgasm. Our neurologists are working on it
right now. Telo Elam, there will be no loyalty except loyalty
towards the party. There'll be no love except the love of Big
Brother. There'll be no laughter except the laugh of triumph over
a defeated enemy Maga. There will be no art no literature, no
science, when we are omnipotent, we shall have no more need of
science, there'll be no distinction between beauty and
ugliness. Sound familiar? Now let's get to work on these
children really early and disrupt the relationship between
the children and the parents. Let's get on with the baby bears
on the Cartoon Network. This is for young kids. Jared Winnie Hey
there, Ryan the great Winifred she extraordinaire
Unknown: are also the
new addition box they use they them pronouns
Adam Curry: they give exceptionally good quiche box
they then pronouns This is not okay.
John C Dvorak: No, that's good. There's another good clip not
Adam Curry: okay. And so, you know, states are cracking down
on it Florida. It's certainly just for young children. There's
parents should have the right to determine what their what their
what their children are learning in school. This is of course not
the the Scholastic opinion and teachers are quitting now. This
is a report from NBC
Unknown: on the same day that high school English teacher
Emily Ramseur won an award for being an outstanding Texas
educator. She stood in front of the grapevine Colleyville school
district to tell them why she was among dozens of staff
members resigning this year.
This community has continuously harassed me for the past few
years, to the point that there were days I didn't even want to
be alive anymore, much less be a teacher. So I'm going to listen
to what I am hearing from this community. Which is that y'all
don't want people like me, people who might be gay to teach
here.
School districts across the country are facing a teacher
shortage fueled by burnout and low pay. But in Texas, Many
blame politics. Last year rams those districts saw a 40% jump
in resignations and retirements. After new conservative school
board members pushed to remove hundreds of books and restrict
lessons about race and LGBTQ identities.
I've taught these kids for years to write and to grow their
voices. And I'm not going to let my actions say something
different.
Ramseur who identifies as queer, so she was asked to change some
of her lessons and to remove classroom artwork and rainbow
stickers.
Adam Curry: So what's sad about this type of reporting is the
way they bring it is they they make it sound like there's
hatred against
John C Dvorak: your sympathetic toward the poor, almost gay
teacher and whatever pain area whatever she is, who's crying on
the screen. He's crying on the on the set. And, yeah, that's
the way it's presented. It's slanted presentation. Classic
news. Yeah. Which has a perspective.
Adam Curry: They bring in politics, of course, and this is
the this is the poison she
John C Dvorak: had to take her stickers down on her. And they
banned and the book banning and there was generalized So it
sounds like they're banning, you know, everything.
Adam Curry: Yes. And so this is political. And it's obvious. You
know, it's Texas and I talk about laws. And what this hat
what happens is with the under educated over socialized
individuals that the entire world is full of this is not
just America, but it's really prevalent here. You get, you get
people really believing that they are hated. I mean, that's
what she said, you know, they, they don't like people like me.
I don't think that's ever been said. It's like, you know, she
actually said in that clip, I'm here to teach the children had a
right and to grow their voices. What No, you're not here to grow
their voices. I disagree. That that's not what you're here to
do. But okay, grow your voices. They just it turns into the
second grader. It turns into the need, it turns into this
horrible hatred for each other. And I mean, this clip on C span
Washington journal really exemplifies poor news reporting,
or I shouldn't say poor it's actually excellent news. What
they're doing on in the news, which is, in general, mainstream
news is run by the Democrat Party of America. This is what
they want. This is how they want to communicate it because it's
going to get more of America sympathetic to vote Democrat. I
guess that's the idea. And this is the result of it.
Unknown: This is Laura Kelly. I believe in Galveston, Texas
independent Good morning.
In their morning, there, I'm just gonna say that, you know,
if I'm gonna be straight with you as I can be, I'm a lesbian
so it's gonna be kind of hard but a wake up America, maybe
Republicans are falling to not do it. They are Nazis. They're
calling for genocide on trans people like myself. Every year
to hear in the morning who's been calling so far has been
nothing but calls for my death. They have listening to good
college, but most of the Republicans have been calling
from my desk. They are saying I don't have a right now she does
the one corsets hit me over the head with brown pants. He is a
Nazi and he does not want me here. All right, well,
hold off on the Nazi references. This is Steven.
Adam Curry: Finally, you know, there's someone who is
convinced, convinced that Republicans are Nazis, all of
them and they want this person dead. And there's just no
evidence of this. There's no evidence of it, but it's the way
the News brings it. Like the battle brewing over trans
rights.
Unknown: This morning. Columbus is preparing to welcome an
estimated 700,000 people to his annual Pride Parade while a
battle is brewing just blocks away at all at the Ohio State
House over the future of trans rights fields. The Republican
controlled legislature is considering a number of bills
impacting trans youth, one called HB 68 would make it
illegal for doctors to provide gender affirming care for trans
minors, including prescribing puberty blockers or hormones.
That one definitely concerns me considering I am actively on the
waiting list for getting puberty
blockers 11 year old Michael ferrea has identified as a boy
for years now his parents say puberty blockers are needed to
essentially allow him to pause his development for now.
It makes me uncomfortable that I having to go through feminine
puberty
I used to be 68 is to save adolescents from
experimentation.
Republican state representative Gary click is the primary
sponsor of this bill he also touted would ban doctors from
performing gender reassignment surgery on a minor something
opponents argue isn't happening in Ohio.
I've done a lot of research I've talked to a lot of professionals
on this our side gets ignored in this we have the science is
on our side, but the American Academy of Pediatrics now listen
Adam Curry: to this, listen to their studies and tell me what
the common thing is about the science the studies that they
have published
Unknown: a study finding transgender teens who were given
puberty blockers experienced superior mental health outcomes
compared to those who wanted the medication but didn't receive
it. And a 2022 study concluded transgender and non binary youth
with access to gender affirming care had 60% lower odds of
moderate or severe depression.
I certainly wish them the best and all of you I love these
kids. I care about these kids. And I'm not trying to run
people's lives.
The furries have accepted that HB 68 may become law. They say
that's why for many in the LGBTQ community, this year's pride
celebration has turned into a call to action,
although it will hurt the trans community. It is not going to
make us D transition or just pop out of existence. I guess they
aren't necessarily getting rid of us.
Adam Curry: So there's another child being abused by the media
to be a spokesperson and the same message then no, we're not
going to disappear. They're not going to get rid of us. We're
not just going to go away. These are all very very hurtful.
messages this child has been filled fed with. And all these
studies do not go back any further than 2019. That's the
oldest they have. And the science is clearly not settled
on the long term effects and and just the words that are being
used battle, you know, Boch right to existence. All this
stuff is bad. We have a number of, of emails, which I'm not
going to read, I've cleared it with. Well, with all of them to
put them in the show notes, I would say specifically read
Alexa, who's trans producer of the no agenda show in Chechnya,
but who went through the same as, as now are our night who was
a dame who D transitioned. And Alex is 40, you know, had to go
through almost three years, you know, at older at an older age
to be able to do all the transitioning the medical
transitioning, and agrees that it's insane what is happening
right now. And it's clearly happening for political reasons.
Another one from I think you read this one, the boots on the
ground fleeing California to save a child's life, you
probably read that one where this mother single mom
completely went in all in the program in Berkeley, and her and
her st. Her son became, was identifying as a girl. And then
once they didn't want to accept the vaccine into the life, they
were kicked out of the group, they were no good anymore. So
they left left for a new interesting coincidence. Yes.
You know, my body, right? Left for New England. And once you
know, away from the therapists, the the, the boy felt like a boy
again,
Unknown: and was like, Oh, he's playing football. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So those are in the show notes worth looking at just
as counterprogramming to all of this. But there's something
happened that I need to highlight because I give the
pivot people a lot of crap. And and actually, this has nothing
to do with Kara Swisher, because she is still a horrible person.
And I'm not going to play her retort to this. But Scott,
Professor Galloway, who I just in the last show called non
Ma'am, I have to say, I gotta give him props. He may be the
canary in the coal mine, he may be waking up, it seems like he
has his head screwed on right when it comes to trans athletes,
and I need to play this, just to balance out all the crap I give
them.
Unknown: So I think the tweet was on the last step
by saying first of all, you're not transphobic I thought this
was a stupid tweet, but you are not transphobic. Go ahead.
Go ahead. Go ahead. Thanks.
Wow, all you transphobic
Adam Curry: that's, that's exactly what she does. You know,
he sent out a tweet, and he got a lot of crap for it. And she'll
just, here's my opinion, here's my opinion. Here's my opinion.
Go ahead. I'm gonna play that again. So you can hear it in
context. So
Unknown: I think the tweet was on the last step
by saying first of all, you're not transphobic I thought this
was a stupid tweet, but you are not transphobic. Go ahead.
Thanks, I'm
calling you transphobic. That was
a go to your transphobic. So Austin, kill UPS a trans woman
one, the Belgian waffle race on Saturday, that's 131 mile course
runs through the Blue Ridge Mountains. And the number two
rider came in four and a half minutes behind her. And when my
tweet was, and I hope it'll get wrong, because obviously Twitter
isn't a place for nuance. I said that unless Democrats condemn
trans women athletes competing at elite at this elite level, it
will impair our ability to advocate for transgender rights.
Adam Curry: Now, notice here, he says Democrats just notice that
everything with these people is politically motivated. He says
Democrats what he meant is liberals. But he said Democrats
Unknown: and I think what's happening here care is that in
an attempt to be empathetic, and attempt to fight for the rights
of a group that has been marginalized, and has been
persecuted. In my view, we have kind of lost our minds and
ideologically the snake is eating its own tail. Now, what
do I mean by that? If you think about male physiology, I mean,
when it comes right down to is, is if you look at most studies
to summarize them, men are physically stronger. Women are
emotionally and mentally stronger, even at a childhood
age, like girls, girls can survive divorce, with much
better outcomes than boys. But anyways, there's just no
comparison. And what we have decided to do when we let people
who are born as males compete in these races after they have gone
through puberty where you pour testosterone over a bigger,
larger muscle mass and greater bone density and skeletal
infrastructure. I think you end up with the misogyny. And that
is that the entire world of elite sports, all of the
camaraderie, all of the money, all of the scholarships, all of
the relevance, all of the accolades, the confidence, all
of these wonderful things are about to be slowly but surely
sequestered to one group. And that is people born with
penises, unless we have at a certain level involving money,
and scholarships, unless we say, look, a lot are either born with
a vagina, or you're going to play or you're going to be in
another separate category. But the notion that we are going to
start having people with pets six foot five, and the wingspan
of Michael Phelps who by the way still have a penis and testicles
compete in the NC to a swim meet. This is nothing but us
going way too far in in a misguided attempt to say to get
our bone a fetus around progressiveness are hurting
women, and there needs to be some nuance here.
Okay, I get that. Go ahead.
Can I anyways, I just can immediately people start calling
you transphobic. They did. And I'm like, this isn't transphobic
you know, who I'm advocating for? Not only women, but I'm
advocating I believe our ability to advocate for the LGBTQ
community and the transgender community is diminished. Because
people people think, well, I this hateful transgender
legislation is ridiculous and stupid. But the Democrats have
lost their fucking minds.
Adam Curry: So yes, now the thing that was I don't have the
clip for you, because it just I can't. Kara Swisher then goes on
to say over eight minutes? Well, the difference is, you're a
Democrat, the Republicans, they really hate trans people, they
really hate the LGBT community. These people are so brainwashed,
that they don't believe the exact same words, you and I
could have both said this, who would have said it more
succinctly. And shorter. We could have said that. We said
John C Dvorak: we probably have said it. Yeah. And years ago.
Adam Curry: It's like, this makes no sense. You just can't
say that as someone who likes free speech, or is branded as,
as a Republican or Magga. These people are some of the most
bigoted people in the world. And they really need to check
themselves, but good on Professor Scott. He Prof. G. I'm
sorry. He, he at least sees that this is not a good idea. I
thought that was a breakthrough.
Unknown: Yeah. It was a breakthrough breakthrough.
Adam Curry: It was a breakthrough. Totally. He had a
moment of clarity.
John C Dvorak: Hey, wait a minute, moment of clarity is not
a breakthrough.
Adam Curry: Okay. Good point.
John C Dvorak: I mean, the logic is there. I mean, I was
listening to care and TV news the other day and they and one
of the news readers just blurted out said, well, the transgender
athlete, they're saying it's they have a distinctive
advantage over the female athlete. Yeah. And then she's
just says there's no evidence of this.
Adam Curry: Yeah. They're so afraid of losing their job.
That's it. They're just afraid. But I don't
John C Dvorak: think so. I disagree with that. Again, I've
done this before with you on this particular topic. Where
it's not fear, it's sincerity. Well, they really believe this
stuff.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, okay. I think that if in fact, there was
a
John C Dvorak: Kara's not insincere.
Adam Curry: You're right. You're right. She's
Unknown: not she's not afraid. That's for sure. No, she's
Adam Curry: not well, she got money from her divorce. So she
got no problem there. It was, was that there was some study.
It's true.
Unknown: Something you always throw that little nut della jibe
in their ear.
Adam Curry: When you have money. Like you know, hey, let me sell
curry.com for $10 million. Watch me go off the rails. Watch this
show change
Unknown: the show. It'd be great.
Adam Curry: Insulting everybody. I have no clips but lots of
stories in the UK. Headlines headlines headlines. Fresh
warning of deadly new virus surfaces. virus which kills one
person a second likely to be heading to UK scientists say
urgent warning after outbreak of one of the world's deadliest
diseases after man dies in Namibia and my favorite new
deadly virus is highly likely to arrive in the UK in latest
climate change warning. So now that headline, oh, there's your
connection. That's the one I like. So I'm like, What is this?
Yeah, so I'll bring up this this is from the mirror, which is
another fine, outstanding.
Unknown: Another fine standing publication be proud
Adam Curry: of deadly virus that is killing nearly 50% of
patients is highly likely. That's that's your climate
change language to arrive in the UK, along with other illnesses
spread by insects, which are marching north due to climate
change.
John C Dvorak: The six are marching north from climate
change
Adam Curry: across across the English Channel even they're
just marching north. They're swimming, they're swimming.
John C Dvorak: It's a good movie for people out there want to see
something like this is also was a radio play. I think it's a
Roger, I think it's read you read your Kipling. Rudyard
Kipling. Yes. Called the naked the movies called the naked
jungle. Net is about. It's a great movie. It's about these
giant army ants marching north, eating everything in their way.
It's tyrannized film.
Adam Curry: Well, they're marching north towards the UK
and they're going to swim, apparently, now
John C Dvorak: as army ants. Yeah, they did. They had to swim
across the rivers.
Adam Curry: Well, the English Channel is not just a river.
Hey, get there. Let me tell you about this, about this disease.
It has a great name. They go through
John C Dvorak: the channel that they can just crawl crawl
across. They go through the channel. There you go. Yeah, no,
the who's gonna stop them.
Adam Curry: This is cchf cchf. It has a snappy acronym. And it
has everything you want in there. It's the Crimean Congo
hemorrhagic fever. So you've got a little bit of Russia in there,
you know, Crimea, Congo, Congo
John C Dvorak: hemorrhagic fever, which is a bola and more
fans I guess we're not Marfan says the other one Marburg,
Marburg, Marburg, Marburg are fences with Lincoln
Adam Curry: Francis Marburg,
John C Dvorak: you got that. You got Crimea, you got hemorrhagic
and Congo. Yep, you
Adam Curry: got it all. Wow, symptoms. Great moniker.
symptoms may include fever, muscle pains, headaches, and
John C Dvorak: it's caused by bugs. Yes, the same bugs, maybe
Adam Curry: the cchf virus is typically spread by tick bites,
or close contact with the blood secretions, organs, or other
bodily fluids of infected persons or animals. So, you
know, like it spreads like monkey virus ticks. groups that
are at highest risk of infection are farmers. And those who work
in slaughterhouses the virus can also spread between people via
body fluids. Hello gays. You Thought Monkey virus was
interesting. diagnosis can be made by the
John C Dvorak: way you citing gays in this case. heterosexual
couples have body photos. No,
Adam Curry: no monkey monkey pox only went through between men
who have sex with men. Do I have to remind you of this fact fact.
Monkey virus only spread between men who have sex with men. Now
diagnosis can be made by detecting antibodies. The virus
is RNA. Hmm. Get in there, or viral proteins. So now of course
there are no FDA or who approved therapeutics yet. No, no, no, we
can't have therapeutics. You gotta get a vaccine. If there's
therapeutic you can't have it. Well,
John C Dvorak: I'm getting my things mixed up right
therapeutics are
Adam Curry: getting ahead of it getting ahead of it. In the past
20 years, cch F outbreaks have been reported in Eastern Europe,
particularly in the former Soviet Union.
Unknown: Bastards back bastards Civ Russians
Adam Curry: bastards. Yeah, this one's got legs. I think it's got
legs. There's no clips yet, but they're coming. They're coming.
Keep your eye on cchf. Jeff,
John C Dvorak: is when too many letters.
Adam Curry: I feel good about it. I do I feel good about this
one. It's one to many. I think Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever.
cchf I can just see it cchf Me in Congo hemorrhagic fever.
BCCH.
Cch can probably do that. I like it. I like it. It's got
everything in there. And you bleed out through your butt and
your eyeballs.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, that's you have to bleed out through
your eyeballs Yeah,
Adam Curry: otherwise it's just no good it's no good rather not
all right. All right. Do we have the mean I've got Russia.
Unknown: I got some Ukraine. I got low Ukraine. Yeah,
Adam Curry: let's do some I got some Ukraine stuff too
John C Dvorak: that this is the one that I only have two clips.
You can play the rest of them plays out with yours but
Adam Curry: Whoa, you okay, what happened there? Okay. Oh, we
have a podcaster down, John. Hello. Oh, what happened here
something happened.
Unknown: Test test test.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, let me see.
Unknown: Okay this should be good right here.
Adam Curry: Yes it's interesting I already got a Darren O'Neal
sent his resume.
Unknown: Yeah
yeah that bastard I knew he would
Adam Curry: like hey, man, I can do the show as easy as
Unknown: that they're ready.
Adam Curry: All right, Ukraine back to Ukraine clips. I'm glad
everything's okay. That always scares me a little.
John C Dvorak: It's kind of works in that it fell away. It
did. Yeah. But now I know that you reset the clean feed right
away. Okay. I wish you wouldn't have been off. I wouldn't have
been dead for two minutes instead of
Adam Curry: 30 seconds. Sorry. Well, it's all good. We're all
back to normal all systems.
John C Dvorak: Okay. This is really annoying. And this is the
push to NATO leaders. Sorry, talked a lot about your
Adam Curry: wish to NATO
Unknown: leaders from all 31 NATO member nations will hold
their annual summit next month in Vilnius, Lithuania. Ahead of
that some members and Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky are
stepping up their calls for Ukraine to join the military
alliance. Ali Rogen has the details.
Poland's parliament today passed a resolution supporting
Ukraine's admission to NATO. Ukraine in NATO was a
contentious issue long before the war began. And it has only
accelerated since then. We have now our own debate on when or
whether Ukraine should be invited into NATO. Charles
caption served on the National Security Council staff during
the Obama and Clinton administrations. He's now a
senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and a
Georgetown University professor and Evelyn Farkas was Deputy
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia.
During the Obama administration. She's now the executive director
of the McCain institute at Arizona State University.
Welcome back to you both. Evelyn. I want to begin with you
you support Ukraine becoming a member of NATO now,
why Ukraine has earned it. First of all, we gave you credit in a
political agreement back when the international community took
their nuclear weapons that we would defend them if they were
invaded. And the countries that were supposed to defend Ukraine
did defend Ukraine to some extent, but not to the extent
that Ukraine expected since then Ukraine has been fighting to
uphold the international order the principles of the sanctity
of borders, which Russia has violated repeatedly. And frankly
speaking, they are now the most capable, the largest, most in
NATO interoperable, battle hardened, capable military on
the European continent. So from a military perspective, they've
also earned it,
Adam Curry: they've earned it, it's fair and square, they
deserve it.
John C Dvorak: A couple of things in there. First of all,
she's with the McCain institute at ASU. Yeah,
Adam Curry: danger Will Robinson McCain, who went in there with
Vicki and with Lindy Hop, Lady G. Graham. And now cookies, the
whole my Don group 2014. They they they made a coup happen.
John C Dvorak: And secondly, the this idea that these the nuclear
weapons that were taken out of Ukraine, were Russian there
weren't they weren't made daring. Yes, there were a bunch
of Russian nukes that were positioned. They were position
there, they were not really owned by Ukraine if we became a
sovereign nation, and so they had to pull them out. They just
had to because it was be dangerous as per proliferation
just to let these things exist. And it had nothing to do with
them protecting themselves with nukes. So this bullcrap, so
let's turn the tables and ask the guy who's the Council on
Foreign Relations is your Georgetown, Professor Bob about
the whole thing to get an official the official take
because I think he would be the one with a with a would be a
mouthpiece for the intelligence groups, as opposed to this crazy
woman who just by the way, this went on for the night to have
clips of and she just goes nuts about Yeah, good. They earned
her we should go load him up and we should we are gonna do
anything.
Adam Curry: Their meanings.
Unknown: All right, Charles, to you. What's your response? Has
Ukraine earned it?
I'm all for helping Ukraine and doing our best to enable Ukraine
to recover as much of its territory as possible, hopefully
all of its territory. But I part ways with Evelyn on the question
of whether NATO should open its doors and offer membership to
Ukraine. At this point, President Biden his NATO allies
are helping Ukraine defend itself. But they're not going to
war to defend Ukraine, in part because they've made a judgment
that they're not ready to see NATO go to war with Russia, risk
World War Three over Ukraine. And we need to keep in mind that
if NATO does admit Ukraine, and a single bomb were to fall on
Keith, we would have a treaty based obligation to go to war
with Russia. Secondly, I think that we see that this is a war
that is going to go on for a long time. We don't know how to
how it will end. We need to keep open the prospect for some sort
of ceasefire, perhaps an RMS system in which we might need
Russia to play ball much harder to get them to play ball. Two
final reasons. One is there's no consensus in NATO about mitting
Ukraine. NATO strongest suit right now is its unity. And I
don't think we want to interject this debate right before the
summit in July and go into that summit with disunity.
Adam Curry: Ah, see the disunity right there in the program?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so you have the official that's I consider
that the official opinion. Dan, long time. So in other words,
there's no do not get in NATO at the at this point. There's no
way and this war is going on forever. So get your pocketbooks
out.
Adam Curry: Luckily, NPR is going to give us a breakdown of
how the spring offensive is going. Did you know it was well
underway? John's spring offensive? Spring Offensive is
raucous
John C Dvorak: I understand yes, the spring of it is well
underway and the Ukrainians are kicking butt.
Adam Curry: Well. Listen to this. Just the beginning. Like a
minute and a half of this report from NPR. My buddy Dave Jones
sent this to me. Now just imagine they're reporting on a
soccer match cranes plans for a spring offensive as spring turns
to summer, where does this effort stand?
Unknown: Well, are you at this point, we're a little bit over a
week into it. It's limited progress, very tough going. The
Russian troops are dug in, and they're waiting with minefields
and trenches and airpower. Every village is being contested. The
Ukrainians are trying to advance along three separate lines, one
to the east, two to the southeast, they're probably
doing best in this sort of middle line. They're working
their way down a small river, and they've taken several
villages along the way. Overall, the Ukrainian military says
they've taken about roughly 40 square miles. So they are moving
forward. But it's a slow pace, and they have not approached any
of the key towns or cities that they'll need to really make this
a success. So Tom,
what are you hearing about the additional support that might be
coming to Ukraine from the US?
Adam Curry: Yes, we're getting the other teams update here.
John C Dvorak: So we have they've taken 40 square miles.
Yes. 40
Adam Curry: miles of through the middle line, the left line, the
Unknown: no towns is just 40 miles of empty fields. That's
Adam Curry: right. That's right. And there's more coming 40 miles
of raw land, and it's all about land.
Unknown: Okay. Yeah. All right,
to really make this a success. Tommy,
Tom, what are you hearing that might be coming to Ukraine from
the US and other allies.
As you noted, there was a meeting in Brussels and the US
and its allies pledged more air defense weapons. And that's of
course vital because Russia continues to hammer Ukrainian
cities, or missiles for the Patriot batteries and other
energy. So air defense systems, also more tanks, armored
vehicles, shoulder fired missiles now bringing it all
Russian tanks. And finally, there are plans they announced
to train Ukrainian pilots on the F 16. Or plane in Denmark and
the Netherlands sometime this summer, but no word on when and
how many of the aircraft will actually get to Ukraine. And
that has annoyed Ukrainian officials and some defense
analysts who said we need these planes much earlier. Now you're
looking at probably sometime next year
Adam Curry: defense analysts. They're angry because we can't
get new gear fast enough. We need to spend spend spend. So
yeah, this is going to be a very long spending process. I think
you're completely right. You can call it a war, clearly about 40
miles of turf.
Unknown: But it's your turf. 40 miles a golf course.
Adam Curry: It's just here to empty our pockets into the
military industrial complex and enter the spy spook master
Richard Engel who has an exclusive one on one one on one
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this guy was on you know I've been seeing
him on and off I wish I had some clips but yeah, I'm glad you got
him
Adam Curry: actually. No, we have clip custodians. We have
clip collectors this clip collector Steve I think and he
got two clips of the one on one
Unknown: Ukraine tonight is in a full scale fight to take back
Russian
Adam Curry: listen to the sound effects are groovy Hey, this is
how you do report people put some machine gunfire in Ukraine
tonight
Unknown: is in a full scale fight to take back Russian
occupied land.
John C Dvorak: Does he have a gun battery behind him? What's
the deal? Yeah, this
Adam Curry: is what you do is called B roll.
Unknown: pivotal moment for our interview with Ukrainian
president Volodymyr Zelensky. At the presidential compound didn t
and we are now in the early days of this long anticipated counter
offensive. Yes.
Adam Curry: How's it going? Yeah, no more than once. She
did. Well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. I thought it was an
offensive. I thought was the spring offense. Is it always
been counter offensive? Did I did I misunderstand that? You
mentioned it. I thought it was the spring offensive. Not
John C Dvorak: that I thought it was offensive to but and we
could be wrong. We could better but it could have been it kind
of offensive maybe a term they used in there. All right. Well,
well.
Adam Curry: It's a pivotal moment
Unknown: Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky at the
presidential compound didn t and we are now in the early days of
this long anticipated counter offensive. How's it going? Yeah,
no
more than once you did that level, but I cannot give you all
the details. We're both defensive and offensive actions.
That things look not bad. Not bad, generally positive.
Adam Curry: Not Bad Things look bad. I love how NBC got this. I
mean, surely they have better translators on stuff. It seems
odd that you would choose this guy but me it's just me. So
Unknown: defensive and offensive actions is for a reason.
Adam Curry: Always. Everything's for a reason. What do you think?
Okay, well,
John C Dvorak: it would stylist. Think about this because this
guy is dynamite. He's got the deep accent. He sounds like some
sort of Boris guy from Akari. He's cartoony is very cartoony
Adam Curry: things going bad, bad, bad, bad. Would you like
some borscht? I'm sorry,
Unknown: that things look not bad. I would say is generally
positive. But it's difficult, oh, national declaration, our
heroic people, our troops, who are now at the front of the
frontline might are facing very tough resistance. You understand
why she pro rata because for Russia to lose this campaign to
Ukraine. Separate I would say actually means losing the world.
President Solinsky also had a dire warning, he blamed Russia
for blowing up a dam which Russia denies flooding dozens of
villages and tells us the next Russian target is the Zapper
Reja nuclear power plant.
Russia does want to blow up the station.
Why would they want to do that?
Adam Curry: Why? Why would they want to do that? No. For the
same reason they blew up the dam. Of course, that makes
nothing but sense, don't we?
Unknown: Because like with them, they are not interested in
Ukraine. Securities like Ukraine. visibility's they
always need instability here and wants the role to pressure
Ukraine to stop the conflict complete.
Adam Curry: So that is the official CIA message as far as
I'm concerned.
John C Dvorak: Okay. Well, one thing I want to mention, yes, I
have a second is that the Russians? have long since taken
over that. That whole power plant, yeah, the whole area is
theirs. And so they would be blowing themselves up. If they
blew that up in there, and they're maintaining it for a
reason, and they could if they wanted to cause that some
Adam Curry: just turn it off. They don't have to turn it off.
Turn it off.
John C Dvorak: So this is this is Ukrainian operation of trying
to they want to attack it or something to get to I don't know
what they're up to.
Adam Curry: Come on, John. But okay, our guys Catholics in
action. Hello.
John C Dvorak: That's okay. Now, I was thinking about this two
$70 billion dollars worth of American money that's going over
there in one form or another, and then being distributed to
Africa. Is it possible that the CIA that there's not too much
complaining about this as let's just say the CIA is the
middleman as the arms dealer to sell the $70 billion worth of
arms or at least half of it? Let's say 35 billion to Africa
or maybe 100 billion in gray market sales and return that 100
billion to our coffers. So the 70 billion investment actually
is is is money well spent. It's an investment a dream
Adam Curry: on that's all going to the big guy 10% for the big
guy. What do we talk to our coffers? What? What is that ever
happened? Oh, here America, we just got we got some money back
for you. Unlikely. Here's the second part of this. He says
Unknown: Russia is getting desperate as more Western
military aid is coming. Today, the US and other allies agreed
to train Ukrainian pilots to operate F sixteens. But it's
still unclear when they'll arrive. And how many you've been
talking about planes since day one. I remember seeing you the
very early days of the war in this building in the basement.
Now they're somewhere in the pipeline,
John C Dvorak: waist up. What was angled doing there in the
first place it very early days in the basement, the very early
days in the basement as you who was getting briefed
Adam Curry: it of course, and how come they're not in the
basement anymore? My question. Back to Back to Richard Engel
are our expert on the ground, wasn't he? In the My Dawn as
well?
John C Dvorak: I don't remember that he was or not, but
probably.
Unknown: I remember seeing you the very early days of the war
in this building in the basement. Now they're somewhere
in the pipeline. What has been the effect of having weapons
rolled out like this given slice by slice over time, though,
surely,
it's prolonged the war. Ducky, the actual if we are supplied
with the machinery that is currently held by our partners,
we will be the Foster.
We also asked about comments from former President Trump and
Governor DeSantis questioning American support for Ukraine.
President Solinsky invited both to come here and said unless
Vladimir Putin is stopped in this country, there'll be a
wider war with NATO.
Adam Curry: Ah, there it is. Yes. So it doesn't really
matter. If they're in NATO or not, they're coming. The
Russians are coming. The Russians are coming. The
Russians are coming. wider war,
it's going to be everywhere. Get ready, Holland, your next. I
have. Unbelievable. So a delegation of African nations
went to Ukraine and met with the result that President Solinsky
Unknown: and they could do the deal to get those arms down
there.
Adam Curry: Well, it was billed as a mediation mission to get
some kind of peace because you know, the Oh, that's right.
Yeah. Just began a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, they haven't,
you know, they got some issues. They can't they're there. People
can't eat wheat, they want their wheat. They want their wheat
they can't eat. But I
Unknown: love sorghum. I love
Adam Curry: douchebag dog from France. 24. Our favorite. He
says something here that is just too funny when it comes to when
it comes to mainstream media, and how they view things
particularly fairness and neutrality. This kind of takes
the cake
Unknown: Victor, our international affairs
commentator, Douglas Herbert, hello to you. There are some
critics over this delegation. Some say it's the wrong group.
And some say it's at the worst time. Why is that?
Well, and you're right. The critics have been unsparing and
the critics mainly obviously Ukraine, but also in the US,
Europe, members of NATO. What are they been saying the
criticism ranges from? This is a laughingstock mediation, Mission
mediation and quotes to they have absolutely no leverage
compared to the real global powers such as China, which
could have some bearing on this conflict if it really had the
will or the political will, to they are not neutral. This is
where the criticism is. I'll start with the we are not
neutral plank. You have six nations taking part in this
mission. And what's interesting is one more than a dozen African
nations failed to condemn the Russian invasion. Early on early
in the days last year, UN resolution. Four of the nations
on this mission abstained from that resolution condemning
Russia's invasion. So you have one of the biggest ones, if not
the biggest one in South Africa, you have Senegal, you have the
Republic of Congo, and you have Uganda, those four nations that
is four out of the six on this team refused to vote to refuse
to vote abstain from condemning. You do have to who were
represented in this delegation, Egypt, in Zambia, and they did
vote to condemn Russia's invasion. So you have this
neutrality problem here. A delegation whose members are not
seen as neutral and at worst, seen as beholden to Moscow for
various things from as you mentioned, dependence on grain
and fertilizer in the goodwill of leji Amir Putin,
Adam Curry: so help me understand if there's a vote to
condemn Russia and you say, You know what, I'm not going to
vote. Isn't that the definition of being neutral?
Unknown: That's what neutrality I would say
Adam Curry: that's what neutrality is. But no in the in
the eyes of the of the mainstream media. Okay. douche
bag dog that you're now a puppet yeah
Unknown: be a Putin puppet and
Adam Curry: you're Vladimir Putin puppet. The the whole idea
of neutrality is you know what I'm not for or against anybody
in this. I'm neutral. That's what Switzerland did now we're
neutral. Give us your money. We're neutral. So this is it's
just so sad. Yeah. Wow. And then of course, you know, we got to
throw some more nuke nuke fear in
Unknown: there Latimer Putin's new statements about nuclear
weapons, and his possible response
if Ukraine receives NATO 16 fighter jets ABCDE and panel is
in Ukraine for us this morning with the latest. Ian Good
Adam Curry: morning. Good morning.
Unknown: Yeah, good morning works that's right. The first
Russian tactical nukes have now been deployed in Belarus to the
north of Ukraine but
their tactical
Adam Curry: he's just making it up as you go tactical nukes I
don't even know what that means anymore. Tech Whoa, would you
use open a can
John C Dvorak: i This is a bottle of origin sparkling
water, who origin
Adam Curry: origin? And is it basically just fizzy water
expensive with a nice label?
John C Dvorak: It's in a label could be better. It's not as
fizzy as I like our back to the tactical
Unknown: nukes truce to the north of Ukraine. But it's also
effectively moving the weapons onto the border of three NATO
countries as well Bluejeans claiming that they'd only be
used in the event of a threat to the Russian state. But remember,
he invaded Ukraine in the first place because he falsely claimed
it was a threat to the Russian state. This isn't the first time
of course, are these arrays now? Throwing in the word falsely,
Adam Curry: yes, falsely falsely claimed.
John C Dvorak: Why did they just say claims become claims as a
threat? That's bad enough but falsely claims, it's that means
he's insincere. Does that mean he's insincere when he claims
something?
Adam Curry: Good point. I love your linguistics
Unknown: Russian state. But remember, he invaded Ukraine in
the first place because he falsely claimed it was a threat
to the Russian state. This isn't the first time of course, that
he's raised the specter of a nuclear attack as a threat in
this war. And this deployment is just the first wave with more to
come. The Biden administration says it's closely monitoring the
situation, but for now says there's no reason to adjust
America's nuclear posture. Meanwhile, Ukraine's allies
preparing to start training pilots on f 16 and other fighter
jets, which could be delivered to Ukraine as early as late
summer. Russia's saying that it will try to attack those
aircraft with Putin warning there's a serious danger that
NATO could be pulled further into the war. Meanwhile, Ukraine
is saying that it's made further small advances in its counter
offensive. And this morning though the British military the
British Ministry of Defence assessing the Russia likely has
a temporary advantage in the battles in the south especially
by increased use of air power in particular attack helicopters.
Adam Curry: Oh attack helicopters that's the next one
we need some helicopter action what a scam this thing is such a
scam. You
Unknown: think what a scam?
Adam Curry: I mean? It's an op and this is a scop is horrible.
Scam op. It's just it's just more more more more more and
they're getting crappy F 16. We know they're not getting the
good stuff. You have the older f6 teens,
John C Dvorak: and they gotta be taken out of service eventually.
Adam Curry: Yes, well, you have to make room for the new ones
but new gear. Yeah, and all all the defense ministers meeting in
Vilnius. Oh yes, the only US Vilnius and Vilnius look at some
more money How do we get some money out of there may a lot of
shoulder back slapping going on there
Unknown: Ah don't know. All right. Yeah, I'm in the Ukraine
for that is
Adam Curry: that is kind of the way I do it. Wait, I have one
more. One more. There's, this is a drone clip. It's always always
interesting to hear a drone clip
Unknown: tonight new details of the dramatic moment Russian
soldier Ruslan Anat, in surrenders on the battlefield to
a Ukrainian drone.
Adam Curry: The drone, yeah, he surrendered to a drone.
Unknown: This video given to ABC News by the Ukrainian army's
92nd brigade begins with a different Russian soldier
running through the trenches amid fierce fighting, they're
back moot last month, the drone drops an explosive device just a
few feet away, knocking into the ground and eventually killing
him. That's when annotating emerge from a tunnel in the
trenches. realizing he's the last man standing he used his
hand signals to surrender to the drone shaking his head and
crossing his arms in an X. The Ukrainians attach a note to the
drone in Russian saying surrender follow the drone, and
it reads it and appears to a crock of crap story. moving side
to side to signaling No he won't. He makes a treacherous
walk half a mile across the open battlefield over the bodies of
his fallen comrades. At one point artillery fire narrowly
missing him. The Ukrainians claiming it was rushing fire to
Close to Ukrainian trenches he surrenders and is taken
prisoner. Yeah, and you can also Nicolas the Ukrainians recording
this video. He says simply, I am Anna Tim Ruslan Nikolayevich. A
soldier of the Russian army, the drone saved my life today.
Adam Curry: Follow the drone imagine
John C Dvorak: just take out his hand gun and shoot the thing
Adam Curry: follow the drone follow the drone Oh my goodness.
And how
John C Dvorak: did they wait they wrote a note and then they
flew another drone out there to deliver the note I don't get
that note part of the stories Call
Adam Curry: of Duty seven or something. I don't think this
just makes no sense. They put a note on the drone follow the
drone and it rocked and rocked back and forth. Okay, that's a
signal I gotta follow the drone. John this is dumped this I'm
gonna say it again. wag the dog doesn't real people dying, but
it's wag the dog. Well, this
John C Dvorak: the drone story is definitely out of control.
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd like to thank you for your
courage in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the
counter offensive ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend
on the other end that one and only Mr. Johnson
John C Dvorak: Mr. Adam curl so in the morning nauseous to see
boots on the ground, feet in the air. Water and all of those
nights out there and in
Adam Curry: the morning to all the trolls and the troll. Trolls
follow the drone 1899 vo
John C Dvorak: dollars Day everyone says a three day
weekend. This is
Adam Curry: Juneteenth today. Tomorrow. Well, it's the 18th
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John C Dvorak: Well, tomorrow, Sunday is the holiday.
Adam Curry: Okay, so All right. So all right. So there was
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Yeah. So we're down way down. And so no one's listening to the
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Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's all right. We Oh, that's
a show business. You know, you work on holidays, and we don't
take sabbaticals or what is it called? sabbatical?
Unknown: Yeah, no. hiatus,
Adam Curry: hiatus. hiatus, who were the shows on hiatus,
everybody. We're almost at the end of our season.
John C Dvorak: He had a season's over season going on hiatus.
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John C Dvorak: was the guy at Harvard that was selling body
parts I bought on Etsy and eBay.
Unknown: Yes. The ghoul
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so it was like guys making 100 grand a
year on the side besides being the head of the morgue at
Harvard or whatever.
Adam Curry: I mean, that's a little price tag little $33 for
all the balls ball a ball rival beautiful. Thank you, Dan. Kenny
been everyone's celebrated this everyone thought it was a great
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Unknown: con scaler quite fond of one piece
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symbolic thing and you pointed out that we had not spoken about
ESG or dei only the SEL social emotional learning and so that
kind of nixed that there was another one kind of behind you
like I liked
Unknown: the Bible one a little bit it'd be aI Bible
Adam Curry: what was that what was that about again? The
John C Dvorak: night goes because we talked about AI Yeah,
I'll be right the Bible
Adam Curry: yeah new religion coming Yes. Then we had some
zombie towns which are okay was that it? Some other AI with a
dinosaur Ai no agenda dinosaur. Matthew dropped Coast deer with
the bug guys made me laugh but it wasn't didn't really make
sense.
Unknown: It made no sense. And
Adam Curry: damn, Kenny Ben did give us a chuckle with the blue
dress. The Spotted blue dress with a cigar is even even titled
A cheap joke. Yeah,
Unknown: it was a cheap joke was a cheap joke, but
Adam Curry: thank you. We got we got a chuckle out of it. And was
that it? Pretty much think that was kind of it? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I mean, the one thing there was a couple pieces
that was the what was the title of the show? I forgot. Zombie
Town Zombie Town. Yeah, I kind of like the Matthew drop co
Zombie Town version two of the San Francisco sign. Yeah, but
we're going to use Yeah, we tried to keep the DI ball art
was gonna win. So
Adam Curry: the other one is more more. D had an AI Bible,
which is a magic eight ball is a little a little too complicated.
But eight balls have been a staple. I
Unknown: think of art. Yes, the magic at all has
Adam Curry: come back from time to time. defended the show. So
thank you, friend to the show. Thank you damn Kenny, Ben and to
all the artists who are always doing fabulous work AI generated
or not ICU comics or Blogger. We appreciate it. You're doing
yeoman's work. It is beautiful. It is a great way to contribute
to the show, which as you know is time talent or treasure. And
we do have some people who are celebrating Father's Day with us
again we're working on Father's Day and they donated their
treasure it is always welcomed and absolutely needed. We have
no other gigs
John C Dvorak: and we've been I would like to I was somewhat
bewildered by the fact that we got a lot of you know we had our
judge say average donations but for Father's Day I really
expected someone to gift their father a knighthood and nobody
did it.
Adam Curry: No, no dads are on the outs man. That's that's just
a fact of life. Yeah, Father There's no longer needed I guess
I don't know I have no other explanation for it. But the ones
who did donate love their dads or their the dads they are
married to so there's there are some beautiful notes here and we
kick it off with our first executive producer. We'd like to
hand out these titles to the to the top donors and they're well
deserved and they're real. They're not some phony baloney
things actual title Bob Millsap isn't surprised Arizona and
kicks us off at 333 dot 33 And he says Shelly and I need a dee
doo
Unknown: dee doo
Adam Curry: ba Bob says evil COVID machine almost got me near
death and hospitalized for 53 days. December of 21 Oh I
remember this Tina saw my crazed fight on Instagram and started
pulling for me Thank you Tina. My book Shake yourself free is
out now. That's right the keeper. The keeper she was
following him. She saw that she was like holy crap and she was
she was definitely lifting him up as much as possible over the
over the interface over the Insta. His book Shake yourself
free is out now.
John C Dvorak: Dame Becky's next on the list. She's in Katy
Texas. Or K as they now say. Happy Father's Day to Sir Mike
of the great Katy Prairie from Dame Becky. best husband and
father ever. No jingles no karma $333.33 from Dame Becky.
Adam Curry: Felix Rios is in San Jose California. 333 33 I do not
have a note from Felix.
Unknown: I don't see I don't go I got nothing.
Adam Curry: I got nothing either. So we give them a double
of karma. Thank you for your work. You've got karma
John C Dvorak: banana, sir Luca of Walla Walla, Washington,
Walla Walla, Walla Walla, good winegrowing area by the way, ITM
chaps greetings from the south east. Here's the deal. I just
finished scanning my family photo album into a digital
format and you will never guess how many photos I scanned how
many photos Did you scan? 333 not a joke. So here's a donation
for $333 which is what his donation is. Jingles please, Gil
Abram son, vocal fry, Trump dumps jobs karma, the Pelosi
Trump Joe jobs variety and sign sir Luca of the south east.
Unknown: You know, obviously, I read I read The New York Times,
like all day long, mainly on my iPad.
They did dumps they call them dumps big massive dump jobs,
jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for
Adam Curry: Tracy Leslie is in Bremerton, Washington. 310 25.
Must be a reason for that. It's a switcheroo note with hopes of
being read during the show around Father's Day. Well, there
you go. It's enfant Nailed it. Nailed it. $310.20 $5 donation
towards the knighthood of Sir Brian Leslie of Brimelow. In
celebration of his fatherhood magnificence, he's off often
perplexed yet always grateful wife would like to acknowledge
Brian stellar wit and verve and taking care of her and their
three girls would not want you and literally could not do it
without you. You are loved. That's a sweet note. Very nice
note and the switcheroo my wife and three girls that means
everyone telling him he's wrong. All the time.
John C Dvorak: All the time. Sir, Ill Pope de ciclismo I'm
guessing in Rio Verde, Arizona. The birth of a degree row is a
Adam Curry: black night actually black.
John C Dvorak: Hello gents. Thanks for your outstanding
work. Please accept this humble donation as a token of my
admiration for the sanity pills you provided us on a regular
basis. Back in early May, I was unceremoniously made redundant
at my job despite 12 years of great performance reviews and
significant contributions to the company. If you're redundant me
somebody else is doing your job. Why weren't they redundant?
Yeah, because they get paid less. Yeah, but Fear not. Fear
not Monday I'll be back into the slave force as I landed a new
job my wife and I are trying to close this chapter of our lives
and embark on a new adventure I'm in need of house sale karma
and general life karma Could you please send some my way as
always misbehave and have fun sir it Popa day clears ciclismo
Blacknight
Adam Curry: you got it that means well if you want to have
that need a little bit of goat at it you've got
then we have a row of ducks for our first Associate Executive
Producer ship and this comes from the Indiana no agenda meet
up which means they they collected that and they decide
who gets it sometimes with fun and games sometimes. Who knows
how they do it. Maybe it's a switcheroo There you go.
Associate Executive Producer donation for Alicia Mac Homer.
Let me just do that right now. Make sure we credit you properly
Alicia. In The Morning John Adam this at this past indie no
agenda meetup, I got the chance to look at Mimi's book too many
eggs too many books, too many books not too many. eggs.com
That book is amazing. The size of the book is small compared to
the amount of information contained and I love it. It's a
big book. I thought it was in fact when we got it it was I
thought it wasn't small as hefty was a nice month nice products.
I'll be buying myself a copy to keep I'm only 22 years old and I
love to cook and I practice to become a better cook every day.
I never knew eggs could be cooked in so many ways in this
book will definitely keep my breakfast interesting for quite
some time, not just breakfast recipes. Thank you guys for
putting together the best podcast in the universe. I love
it when John makes book and movie recommendations. If only
he would make a list.
Unknown: I'd like I'd like to order lists online.
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's plenty of no agenda book club lists, go
to girl this.org I think I'd like to request jobs karma from
my boyfriend Joshua. And if I could get a goat karma for my
birthday, which is on June 18. Sincerely, Alicia McComber you
got it. We're going to do jobs and goat together
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. That's
John C Dvorak: Ralph plain ol Ralph in Miami, Florida. 200.
Happy Father's Day to both of you. And all fathers and dads in
the no agenda nation. Please send me some Father's Day karma
or send some to my dad. Ralph Sr. In Miami. Yes, Ralph in
Miami.
Adam Curry: You got it, Ralph. You've got karma. By the way.
Those of you still here the magic numbers are coming up soon
in the donation segment along with our special interview. Amy
Lynn in Cold Spring Minnesota $200 Associate Executive
Producer ship and she is switcheroo in that for Dan the
man and says oh that's her smokin hot husband Dan the man
happy Father's Day my smokin hot husband Dan the man. You're an
amazing dad to our sassy human resource Kocaeli think this is
you pronounce that Kaylee with an ex saili I think it's
Caitlyn. I
Unknown: think it's che che che li che li y l i
Adam Curry: interesting. That's an interesting have a cool name.
Yeah. So like, like kind of like an Elon Musk kid name in a way.
Just saying. That's cool. And thank you for all the support in
my new business venture. We love you your wife Amy Lynn not a
stripper strippers. It's a good strippers,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs
then elu patcon there you go you
Adam Curry: finally get to week two
Unknown: yeah every week
Adam Curry: every week
John C Dvorak: in Lakewood, Colorado and jobs coming for all
you job hunters out there for a competitive edge. Go to Image
makers inc.com For all your executive resume and job search
needs are just fine little patcon on the show's executive
producer list and run a search very nice so Okay, whether she
gets karma she needs jobs karma for when
Adam Curry: we yeah, we can do the jobs Carmen no problem
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs.
John C Dvorak: Well, that was me cleaning up on this donation
every week at 20 bucks,
Adam Curry: I think is probably doing good business for somehow
which is okay by me. I got no problem with it. Oh, boy,
something looks like something is messed up with my meet up
reports. I'm gonna have to look for this. Well, good news,
because we're going to go straight through we have no nice
things. And we do have some meetup, reports and meetup
promos.
John C Dvorak: No nice things on Father's Day. I
Adam Curry: know I know it's a little disappointing but John is
going to take us through the hundreds since we did promise to
mention all these Father's Day donations and through to the 50s
and here we go.
John C Dvorak: Frankie T starts us off in London, UK $156.40
Nisa de douching
Unknown: you've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: Terry Wilson Langley, Washington $150. Lydia
Terry B. Dominic Ali and Clifton Park, New York. 133 33. And this
is Happy Father's Day to shore geek heretic, Crystal Garza in
Dripping Springs right down the road is right down the road
117 18 And this is a switcheroo credit to Gilberto Garza. He
needs it he douching
Unknown: you've been D deuced.
John C Dvorak: Happy Father's anonymous in Atlanta, Georgia.
$101 Dame Becky and Sir Mike and Katy Texas. Happy Father's Day
to our number one human resource and father of 10 grand human
worthwhile. Chris Kinney. Chris is in a mouth Okay, Chris, sir
Stuart and Stafford, UK Staffordshire, UK, to my father
Ken, who died 22 years ago on Father's Day, playing his last
game of golf. Oh, wow. Let me see one out while putting on a
par for the 11th hole. I missed you every day. That's from susur
Stewart's Kevin McLaughlin, Lucas, North Carolina. And he
has a Father's Day call out to boobs. 808 Yes. Central Jersey
meetup in Portland, New Jersey. Switcheroo coaster donation from
the Central Jersey meetup for Craig Cut. Cut caccia Christine
Kalba in Kelowna, Kelowna BC, and that's a Happy Father's Day
to her smoking out husband, Ian. Sir Rick in Arlington,
Washington, who kitchen his name every time now. 69960 Rick, and
congratulations to Jay for doing that. All Rick Harkins in Vienna
new start in Austria, Vienna news dot Vienna news dot 6767
Read a Harrington in Sparks Nevada six 533 Happy Father's
Day John and Adam and all the dads to Kevin O'Brien is Chicago
Illinois. 606 sure b and a Nashville Tennessee 5993 which
is eggs over easy. Sir Brian Tobias and in Gardner, Kansas
5888. Sir Doherty and Stephen City, Virginia 2678 Happy
Father's Day not Jake. Richard Futter in London UK Sir Richard
5155 10 James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey. 5510.
That's double nickels on the dime. Dean Roker 5510 Jennifer
Hanson and Braintree, Massachusetts 5510 wishing the
best dad in the universe Don Hansen. Happy Father's Day. Love
him very much. Troy funderburk in Spokane, Washington, 55.
Barron Henry and Rancho Palos Verdes 5242 Bart Viken in
Haarlem, Netherlands he's a man overboard who's back he says a
de douching
Adam Curry: says he listened from the Early Start lost
interest started listening again a few years later bought a
couple mugs from the no agenda store which by the way is before
the store and the and the artists mainly never donated.
Unknown: You've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: caller Warnock in Edmonton Oklahoma. switch router
my dad David merchants toward his knighthood love you Father's
love you Father. The Father pops Father's Day pops. We love you
and appreciate everything you do. John Ford in McKinney,
Texas. 51 for John arcade Jr. I guess. Thomas Ballmer in Iowa
City, Iowa Happy Father's Day to my dad John Ballmer. 5005 or
5050 Actually, Andrew Ben's in Imperial Missouri. That's 5005
Kimberly Burton in Greenville, Michigan is 50 with a Father's
Day to her husband, Jodi, thank you so much for being a
wonderful dad to our boys. Michael McKinnis, Iowa, Kansas.
These are all 50s is 58. You're on the birthday list. Stevens
Schumacher and Xenia Ohio 50 Peter odo enriched New York,
Joan Paul's in her Nando Beach, Florida, Nathan Cochran in
Hollywood, Florida. Alexandre ver de HO and Gig Harbor
Washington gadget freak 10 in Western Springs, Illinois, Scott
lavender in Montgomery, Texas, Cory Bennett in Denver,
Colorado, Travis more in Gibsonville, North Carolina
Happy Father's Day to the best podcast and all the dads out
there. Now Alexis Robles in Chula Vista, California. John
Emma do not a lady. Thanks guys. Well, Lexus's would probably be
referred to as the lady a lot. I'll try to remember sir Eric in
Murfreesboro, Tennessee 50. It was to give a posh Miss Happy
Father's Day to his dad Ben. You're loved and missed every
day. The Anne Shipley in Covington, Washington. 50. Sir
spud the mighty in Marietta, Georgia or GRE ring and Roth in
Saugus, California and last on our list is Baron Allen being up
there in Beaverton Oregon. I want to thank these people for
making show 1565 a great show thank you very much.
Adam Curry: Yes, we really appreciate it especially for
executive and Associate Executive Producers Those are
real titles you can use them anywhere the titles are
recognized IMDb, LinkedIn, your resume, everything counts. Also
thank you so much to people who come in under $50 You are the
ones who are on sustaining donations these are very much
appreciated and you know from time to time checking count
before you know what you reach that knighthood or that Dame
hood thank you all so much for supporting the best podcast in
the universe episode
Unknown: we go out for yet people in the mouth
Adam Curry: nice little lesson. We got to jet Ron and Chester
are celebrating today sir Jeff tow wig. I think he's
celebrating on the 20th lauric hurricanes wishes his smokin hot
girlfriend Eva Happy birthday, she turns 46 on the 21st Derek
by the way wishes his son Brexit a happy birthday on the 22nd
Michael Guinness is turning 50 and Blake wishes his smokin hot
girlfriend and future smokin hot wife marry a happy birthday she
turns 28 Happy birthday from everybody. Here's the best
podcast in the universe. Thank you sparkles for the chaos, a
sparkles of chaos for the art you sent. It was very beautiful.
I appreciated that no one said
Unknown: Now it's very important
Adam Curry: to understand that throughout the years, we've
created these no agenda meetups, which initially was something
John and I would go to and there would be a whole bunch of people
getting together and then you know we we'd hang out and we do
this still do that from time to time when appropriate when
applicable. Of course, you know, it's very busy and We're old
now. It takes a little bit more to get us out of the house. But
But what what happened is this was such a popular idea. People
really needed that connection amongst each other you had you
are a community, you're part of no agenda nation, people have a
lot to discuss. And these days, particularly after COVID It's
needed more and more you need a place to go and hang out with
people. By the way, people have also met at meetups and have
gone on to get married and have kids. This is a great place just
to get out. You don't have to worry about and you can discuss
anything. Nothing is on or off the table. There's no condemning
of anything everybody can have an opinion. It's all it's all
beautiful. It's very, very special the way no agenda
meetups are run. And before you knew it, we were doing that on
meetup.com and then Mimi was running that and it was That's a
horrible service and then insects. Now knights are Daniel
he created no agenda meetup.com It's become a thing. And today
we have quite a number of promos and meet up reports and let's go
to the Midcoast maniacs first.
Unknown: Adam and John it's Brian from the Midcoast maniacs
meetup and there were four of us here tonight. We're having a
great time with pizza and salad from Dame head gardener which
I'm gonna pass the phone to, but la Manyana it's damn head
gardener. This is Ivana this bag
douchebag future Jame
no deducing. We had a great time. We were looking forward to
the Scarborough meet up down south pretty soon in northern
Massachusetts and Other meetup here in the mid coast
Adam Curry: so Brian and Susie Of course we know them did a
personal meet up with them many many years ago Zombie Town says
Unknown: aloha in the morning everybody sir Ernesto here
movers number seven. Mrs. Number seven number seven in the
morning John and Adam and I all know each other nation. We're at
the Red 33 Red 33 Casanova 33 that looking at Bruce Cathy
books to check out harmonic 371244 energy grid and
especially harmonics
Adam Curry: thank you for your coverage in the moment I'm not
exactly sure but I think we just got brainwashed. I'm not sure
exactly what that was about. Kingston
Unknown: I TM get mo nation. It's the one and only a white
Mike coming at you from the Kingstowne house party meetup Oh
yes, the pillows were fluffed the curtains were steamed.
Champagne was on ice. It was a party fit for Queen Ursula
herself. I even to take JC D's watch out for the microphones
literally strapped a Neumann mic to the ceiling fans so that that
could add just a little bit of pizzazz. But no one dared show
up. Unfortunately. I get it. It's a Thursday. I'll try some
other configurations. In the meantime, thank you for your
courage.
Adam Curry: Yeah, this was a brand new meet up he was trying
at his home he uh we called him a spook Of course. He's in
Virginia and and next time people go to this he sounds like
a cool dude. And he's got Neumann mics so make sure you
check that out. Now always a good report coming in from the
indie folks. This is the indie June meetup mix.
Unknown: This is de Maria and this is a Sir Mark rain.
Dienstag has to have an amazing meetup and prodigy burger. Yeah,
baby from Indiana and try it out.
Listen up slaves. GMO is now cold biII. For bioengineering
meet the new boss. It's the same as the old boss
in the morning baby
powder from Indianapolis haven't had six glasses today, but it's
still been good.
Thank you for your courage. Hi, this is Cindy from Carmel. Thank
you for your courage in the morning. Hello. It's Christie
from Carmel. Hi, it's Brooke from Carmel Jason from Carmel
sir Betty saying hello to everybody out there. In the
morning swanning this is Shana from
Fort Wayne in the morning in the morning. Yes, sir. PBR street
gang. John Adams. Thank you for your courage. Hope to see you
soon.
Dame Trinity from Fort Wayne having a great time in Hindi.
Thank you for your courage.
This is serve of the Maipo and we had a fantastic meet up
today. Great food. Great company, so many beers to come
in the morning.
This is Nick come he had a pretty fantastic time. According
to Trevor, I would agree. Thank you
in the morning. This is Alicia. Good day to have a meet up
inside and the winner of the raffle. My name is Maggie
Delaney. I work at prodigy burger bar. And I've been
helping serving the nodes and a meetup group we hope that you
guys keep doing this because it's a great thing you guys do
it
Adam Curry: I was wondering what was going to end? Nice very
subliminal. Oh, no, no, no agenda. Very nice. With the
ozempic pilot. It's magic tune. And I love that you put your
server in there. That's the best way to do it. One more promo.
Oh, yes. Let me guess. This would be a promo for one of
those guys who do a meet up in Georgia. Because this is the
devil went down to Georgia. I think Hello promo start now
Unknown: in north Georgia slaves is Bob from coming. Come join us
this Thursday from six to eight at Cherry Street brew pub at
Halcyon for a monthly meetup. You can meet your fellow knights
dame's producers and even some douche bags over a nice cold
beer. Look for the table with the American flag balloons to
find us. See you there.
Adam Curry: And right now as we speak, there's a meetup going on
the Burke the Berkey Hui Hui. That's Albuquerque, New Mexico
that sir Jeff celebrating his birthday on the 20th On
Wednesday, the 21st. The two hot Tucson Solstice soiree will be
held at canyons crown in Tucson, Arizona four o'clock. Next show
day say hello to summer palooza. 330 Riverside Park, Oshkosh,
Wisconsin and the North Georgia monthly meet up as you just
heard, we'll be at Cherry Street brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.
Those are the meetups but there's a lot more including
Batavia, Illinois, London UK conference, who's doing the
conference meeting on July 9, let us know go to no agenda
meetups.com To find out more and remember connection is
protection. You owe it to yourself to go to one sometimes
Unknown: you want to go hang out with Tyson days. You wouldn't be
when you won't be triggered. You will say
Adam Curry: is like it is always like a party and the keeper and
I are looking forward to the end we are going to go on a European
vacation this year. I think we'll be doing all the shows a
scheduled might take one off just one for travel day because
we're gonna go to Spain we're going to Italy The Netherlands
gonna go see all the families the old people before they die,
you know stuff like that.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, sounds like a Leo trip.
Unknown: Hey, that's mean.
But yeah, for ISOs
Adam Curry: I have three here's number one.
Unknown: Yes. sighs yay.
Adam Curry: Just always go back to the AJ. Well, you know, or,
or this one while I'm impressed. Okay, kinda good. And this is my
final one. It was all a scam.
John C Dvorak: Okay, well you guys gone to my Well, let's go
with this. Start with God. Save.
Unknown: God save the Queen man.
Adam Curry: Yes, save the queen man. Man, man.
Unknown: Money. Where's the money? To boomy? Yeah, it's no
good. And no,
Adam Curry: no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. Kind
of thing. That's the one.
Unknown: It's yeah, I like it.
Adam Curry: I mean, God Save the Queen is.
Unknown: God save the Queen, man.
It's too stupid.
Adam Curry: It is funny. I don't I don't. I'm torn.
Unknown: This is God. Save the Queen. Man. God save the Queen,
man.
Maybe you have to use I mean, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no.
Adam Curry: That's gonna get used.
Unknown: I don't know. Okay, use God Save the Queen. The Queen
Adam Curry: man because it's
Unknown: just a scared of man. And here's what makes it work,
man, man.
Adam Curry: Crazy. Oh, luckily, we've been missing it. We got
another six week cycle. Did you catch the six week cycle?
Unknown: I can't say that I have
Adam Curry: a reminder for everybody.
John C Dvorak: And I'm not on the lookout, which is an
interesting point that you mentioned it.
Adam Curry: Well, we haven't seen it for a while the six was
been a perpetual cycle basically. But the six week
cycle is something that we were read in on the FBI in particular
likes to Jackson Roni
John C Dvorak: are technically read in on it we were informed
by a yes,
Adam Curry: yeah. Okay. informed by a producer yes informed that
in order to keep their budgets and their stature and their
quotas up the FBI every six weeks needs to scam runs a scam
has to some have to have some event happens so they still look
like they're cool and doing stuff. And they usually take
some you know, mildly retarded person or someone who's on drugs
and you know, just and Jack them all up and then give him some
phony baloney stuff and then and of course was social media got
even easier. Hey, man, post this. Yeah, what are you going
to do? What are you going to do? Come on post me send me a text
message put it on Insta.
Unknown: Tonight in court filings. The FBI saying social
media accounts tied to a Michigan man posted Nazi imagery
and sent messages about planning a mass shooting at a synagogue
INVESTIGATORS SAY they received a tip about those alleged
threats to a 19 year old Shawn patella allegedly writing
expletive this world and everything in it. I'm going to
start making plans soon. Just gotta buy a few more things,
adding I won't be taken alive. I'll make sure of that. Federal
agents safety Tella traded anti semitic messages on Instagram
with a friend overseas writing I just need a camera for streaming
and some more magazines don't want to run out of mags and have
to reload one when FBI agents searched the Telus home court
filings say they found unsecured weapons including a 12 gauge
shotgun, a rifle a pistol
Adam Curry: unsecured weapons I liked that that's a new offense
unsecured weapons when FBI used
John C Dvorak: in other words, he had a shotgun without a
without a trigger lock on it. I guess it wasn't in a safe which
you know who has those don't want to run out of random
shotgun laying around and this is now illegal and you're gonna
get thrown in the slammer,
Unknown: uh, traded anti semitic messages on Instagram with a
friend overseas writing. I just need a camera for streaming and
some more magazines don't want to run out of mags and have to
reload one when FBI agents searched the Telus home court
filings say they found unsecured weapons including a 12 gauge
shotgun, a rifle, a pistol plus tactical vests and a red and
white Nazi flag on his phone agency. They found the name of a
Michigan synagogue and a date March 15 2020 For the same month
and day as the New Zealand mosque attack 18 that killed 51
people. Authorities say P Tella admired the gunman who
specifically
have to have a threat. And also ideally even a discussion or a
plan about how you're going to carry it out.
The anti Defamation League says anti semitic incidents spiked
36% between 2021 and 2020 to the highest on record in close to 50
years and attorney for Paitilla declined to comment but
investigators say he told them he did not intend on following
through with the mass killings he spoke about
denying it is fine, but there may be a lot of countering
information to say well, that's just not true.
Adam Curry: I love the Nazi flag edition that's a new thing the
Nazi flag Yeah,
John C Dvorak: they didn't get that right he said it was a it
was a white and red, white and red. Where's the black?
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's not a good flag.
John C Dvorak: There's no white and red Nazi flag that I know
of.
Adam Curry: There's no white and red in Nazi
John C Dvorak: Yep, so yeah, that you know it was what would
call me was running the place it was more creative.
Adam Curry: They had
John C Dvorak: better material they did they really developed a
guys they had a better budget. I'm not sure what's going on.
Adam Curry: It was just more creative, though. Just more
creative, and it was more
Unknown: creative as lame. And I know what are you gonna do? I'm
gonna do
Adam Curry: I think we should honor the this man who passed
away
Unknown: tonight tributes rolling in for Daniel Ellsberg,
the largely unknown Pentagon analysts during the Vietnam War,
later labeled the most dangerous man in America by Secretary of
State Henry Kissinger. All after Ellsberg leaked the pentagon
papers to the New York Times and later, the Washington Post 7000
secret government pages showing the US government had been
misleading the public about the growing scope of America's role
in Vietnam, and that the military doubted its chances of
victory. I still
nothing. I did not commit espionage. As indicated by the
Espionage Act.
It led to a landmark Supreme Court decision on press freedom
that helped inspire a generation of investigative journalists.
When the Nixon administration typed newspapers from
publishing, the justices sided with the press and criminal
charges against Ellsberg were later thrown out by a judge,
citing in part a breaking by the White House plumbers that
Ellsberg former psychiatrists office, seen as a warm up to the
Watergate burglary that would bring down President Nixon.
Adam Curry: Yeah, so much for Julian Assange.
John C Dvorak: So I got to meet Ellsberg. Oh, nice guy. I
chatted with him at some event they had over here in San
Francisco. Larry Lessig brought him into some Oh, Larry. Good
old good old Larry. Larry so I don't have a clip but there was
a great Capehart and Brooks little thing because they go on
and on about what a horrible people Assange and Snowden
actually are and Ellsberg is great. It was just a fun he's
really awesome switch gears
Adam Curry: interesting well, that of course is because they
got a Republican out. You know, Pentagon Papers screwed Nixon
somehow in the Andrea Mitchell eludes
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, kinda was embarrassing us about all it
was It wasn't anything people didn't know.
Adam Curry: Right? I have. Do you have anything you want to
play us out with?
John C Dvorak: I can play us out with a couple of clips from the
Iowa meet up that we were there was actually this woman. She was
on PBS of all places. Iowa meet up and no, it wasn't me. It was
a pollster. There's a meet up going. Iowa has always meet up
she for the elections. And so they had they have these. This
pollster was a famous Republican pollster. She's talking to Trump
people. I have three clips, and they're worth listening to.
They're number two.
Adam Curry: Now these mega Magaz
John C Dvorak: yep, I would say they probably are Iowa pollster
PBS.
Unknown: JUDY WOODRUFF was in Des Moines, Iowa yesterday for
her America at a crossroads reporting project to listen in
on a couple of voter discussions led by conservative pollster
Sarah Longwell since it was the day of the Trump arraignment.
She made that the focus of the first of two reports on what I
will Republicans are thinking this was produced with our
friends at Iowa PBS.
Adam Curry: Yeah, we should mention that I was an important
states because that always indicates the the temperature of
the nation.
John C Dvorak: Well, these Republicans are are kind of
interesting because they have they seem to be very
knowledgeable what's going on and they're very skeptical of
everything. They're more skeptical than the average bear.
It seems to me. Here's clip to
Unknown: focus group I do with two time Trump voters. They were
very clear and did date mints actually made them want to
support Trump more? Which is really consistent? I mean, we've
been asking people for several months, you know, how are you?
How does it make you feel when you hear that Trump's data does
it make you want to support more support and last out of the 58
people that we've asked 26 of them said, it makes them want to
support Donald Trump more. Only two said less. They're a little
bit mixed on whether Trump is exactly the right person to be
the person who comes back but still after January 6, after the
indictments after everything, still a lot of support for
Donald Trump
Adam Curry: must be Nazis
John C Dvorak: and they won it anyway they go on and he talked
to all these people is very interesting that people can dig
out from last Wednesday's PBS NewsHour, they and then they had
a follow up on Thursday, I would go back and watch that it's
online. Now. The one that got me though, is this. This is the
last very short clip where they she asked him specific questions
and then they raised their hands. And I have to say that
this is to at least I was shaking my head on this one
because it was like, wow,
Unknown: that deep seated distrust extended to the 2020
election results and their aftermath to
how many of you believe Joe Biden was legitimately elected
president the United States How many of you believe that the
election was stolen? Or rigged in some way? Okay, everybody
100 frickin percent.
Everybody, everybody.
Adam Curry: Wow. Oh, that's good. That's good. stolen,
stolen you election deniers, Nazis, horrible people. Someone
sent me a note and said, after I heard your comments about Trump
on the last episode, I'm thinking you're a liberal.
Unknown: Let's just say I don't
Adam Curry: know. I know. You're a liberal. I don't think so. Oh,
speaking of 100 frickin percent great comedian. I wish I had his
name here on this clip, just 43 seconds. This is my pet peeve. I
wouldn't say 100% 100% as 100% instead of saying absolutely
clearly all the way Definitely spot on.
Unknown: Instead of Yes. Instead of Yes. People often say they
don't say yes, but they say 100% Like I asked a question and they
give me statistics
instead of yes, they give me the percentage of esns mean it's
always it's always hungry. Sometimes it's sounds stupid.
Like it sounds like like did you did you pay taxes? Yeah. 100%
Well, I think you'll pay too much. Thank you.
Adam Curry: I'm not the only one noticing this insanity. Luckily.
Ah, well Happy Father's Day to you, John. That Happy Father's
Day to you. And Happy Father's Day to all the fathers out
there. You do important work you matter you're seeing your heard.
We have end of show mixes from see who did this one. I wish I
knew this the Armistice Day. We have DS laughs We have Tom Stark
where the first one up, unedited by the way his first mix. And
Jesse Coyne Nelson. And on no agenda stream we've got the hog
story to John Fletcher and Dame Carolyn Blaney. They'll be
playing with their barbecue toys. And coming to you from the
heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley where Tomorrow's
a holiday. I'm Jesse Dvorak. Yes, enjoy
Adam Curry: your Juneteenth everybody. And please do
remember us at divorce act.org/na We'll be back on
Thursday with another media deconstruction just for you.
Until then adios mofos a hui, Hui, and such
Unknown: and now, I'm standing next to the president again next
to a collapsed bridge here. And he is here to commit to work
with the governor and the delegation to make sure that we
get this fixed quick, fast as well to this is a president that
is committed to and fractured. And then on top of that, the
jewel, kind of a law of the infinite fresh and fresh
inflation Bill that is going to make sure that there's going to
be bridges all across like this all across America getting
rebuilt.
You're watching people fight. You're watching people lose and
Adam Curry: pharmacist was our armistice Am I saying it right I
miss not being able to say pharmacist or pharmacists. What
is it? What is it
John C Dvorak: you'll never say I get it now I had to set it I
visualized the word I was about to say and then you start
Adam Curry: pharmacist pharmacist armed I said I said
it right armatus There you go. Armitage. Armitage is yes it is
a RM a tea ice Armistice Day armistice armistice. Does it
sound right to you? Yes, it does. Now armistice that's where
they signed the armistice agreement armistice armistice
you're right armistice.
Unknown: You're watching people by the way, you're watching
people losing on Armistice Day
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Adam Curry: done. Well done. You've debunked the stupid
headline Dr. Jenn keep on taking your ozempic People have nothing
to see here. It's all good and when
Unknown: your hair all falls on your balls milliard don't worry
about it. At least you're thin
and boxy Tucker Carlson the split CNN told on the mind video
that said pineapple pizza is fine by me point of personal
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Adam Curry: in a troll room and they and there's not a lot of
them which is nice. Yes, I'm going to write it down on the
sticky
Unknown: it's lovely June 18 2032 and celebrity trans
species influencer Shazam duck frog goat gets a surprise call
it home.
O M G, its president Big Mike with powerful words of support.
What's going on? Tell me what's on your mind. Yeah, I am just so
proud of you being just an amazing role model and embracing
your truth. You're already doing this. So maybe this is for some
other young people that are listening. Your age or in the
teenage years in probably through your 20s you're going to
be experimenting with so many versions of yourself right.
Next, Vice President Alexandria Ocasio. Cortez speaks with the
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