Adam Curry: She's the Yoko of the Royals man. Adam curry, John
C Devorah. They made for 2023. This is your award winning
combination media assassination episode 1552.
Unknown: This is no agenda
Adam Curry: cranking up the drone wars and broadcasting live
from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here. Number six. The
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry.
John C Dvorak: And from Northern Silicon Valley. They're
considering the date. We're all saying the same thing. May the
Fourth be with you? I'm John C. Dvorak. Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, I forgot all about that. I'm not a not a
Star Wars fan. I mean, I'm, I mean, I watched the first one
and Empire Strikes Back and that was it. I was done. That was it.
I didn't need any more than that. Yeah. Was enough was
enough? Well, I will say, there's not going to be any Star
Wars movies for a while. It's happened twice in the existence
of this show. And two and both times it has only benefited us.
John C Dvorak: Joshua has no edge.
Adam Curry: The writer strike.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know. It is only been once during the
show. This is the second time. Yeah, this is the second time so
and it lasted the first one last 100 days. And it did took it
ruined the business and it hurt them. The the bottom line in
Hollywood, California. And I don't see. The thing is I think,
do I think I have a clip like this? Maybe
Adam Curry: I have a clip, I backgrounder and was talking
about just from France? 24. Because you know they at least
Yeah, why don't we try it? At least I tried to give us some
some valid reporting.
Unknown: It is day one of the first Hollywood writers strike
in 15 years and writers have certainly turned out in huge
numbers. Hundreds of people marching right now in front of
the Netflix headquarters in Hollywood chanting slogans like
corporate greed has got to go, no contract, no script, and LA
is a union town. And that's a case. We've heard lots of
support lots of cars, dozens and dozens of them honking their
horns in support of these writers as they drive by these
writers who were asking for several things, including better
pay streaming residuals, or royalties for when a show that
they've been working on is then sold on to a streaming giant
late nights like Netflix, and also mandatory staffing. But
that last point is the one that was really the major sticking
point in negotiations with these entertainment companies. And
that is what led to those talks breaking down last night. We're
already seeing some consequences. Some of those late
night talk shows like Jimmy Kimmel Live, The Late Show with
Stephen Colbert, all going into reruns starting tonight. And of
course, as long as the longer this strike goes on, the more
consequences we will start exploring the entertainment
world here in Hollywood.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I always love this except this time, they're
really screwed. They're totally screwed this time because
they're not gonna get anything they want. There's no residuals
and streaming. They all accepted these deals like oh, okay, well,
you
John C Dvorak: need and they got bonused on him. Yes, they got
extra money upfront. I'm not undecided. The writers being a
writer myself, I'm not in that union. But I will say this, they
were giving them extra money because of the no residual
situations with from the streamers on Netflix. And those
guys. They were throwing money around like it was crazy. Net,
Netflix and Amazon Studios give us tons of money Fire Rod did.
And and my understanding is that the studio is also expected to
strike some years ago and have have put so much stuff in the
can Yeah. That they can flow for a year.
Adam Curry: Well, so there's a number of things and and I'm not
against organized labor. I'm not against unions. I think I am a
pro union. I'm sag AFTRA, I believe although I've never made
enough money to get into the into the retirement fund. I used
to get I don't even get money from anymore I used to get 12
cents from seriously I would get like $1.05 I would get a
residual check from Swamp Thing. And one thing and circus of the
stars also got me residuals for a little bit there. But part of
it is you know this per episode saying and then you know, on
streaming, you know, if you would do friends today, which
had what 30 episodes a season, it would have eight now so
there's a per episode
John C Dvorak: thing everyone's subscribed to these eight
episodes. In fact, the even on network TV, there was one show
called The Good Place, which was funny show but it was like 10 it
very It wasn't even the same from year to year it was it was
10 episodes and then they take a year and a half off because
they're I will get to an end and when we get 10 Good episodes or
12 Good episodes, we'll put another season together and they
go on and I never been what I love liked that show, but I
never even watched the last season. There was like a two
year delay for it to come out because they've taken their
time. I mean, come on. And Sid Caesar used to do like 40 shows
a year, hour and a half comedies all original
Adam Curry: way. We do 110 We do have the writers now you see,
like, none of the late night shows all those guys. They're
worthless without their writer room, and the jokes are okay.
But you know, they might write more than the jokes. It's the
questions. It's the interviews. It's also incredibly phony and
just bull crap. And please, Writers Guild of America, don't
you know, members don't write us and tell him he don't know what
it's about. I don't care. Really. We
John C Dvorak: have to listen what it's about, you know, who
sent it to me? Yeah, the
Adam Curry: it's a huge list. One of our guys
John C Dvorak: has is involved in the strike. And he sent us a
huge list of all the demands and all the counter proposal and put
Adam Curry: it in the show notes. Everyone can take a look
at it. But the world has changed. You've changed speakers
John C Dvorak: changed. I mean, it changed for every writer. I
mean, look at the magazine business. If you want to go back
to the early days like face, let's say when the magazine
business you're
Adam Curry: a millionaire back in the day, you were riding high
on the hog, you had limo 24 hour service, you had your money in a
brown paper bag?
Unknown: I did. Can you tell us a
Adam Curry: little bit just a tad.
John C Dvorak: And then if you Sure. And so if you go to back,
let's say in the 70s he go back to that there was a period of
time before that where there was called the short story market
where all these magazines like Colliers and all the use of
published short stories and then they were quarterly so it would
do stuff like that. Did that that business? Who's what short
story writer? Do you personally know? I don't know of any. And
also,
Adam Curry: if you look at the business, Disney plus Netflix,
Netflix, Paramount. These guys are bleeding money, the whole
thing was short sighted. They all were gonna get into
streaming business in the future. Yeah, maybe during the
lockdown. You know, there was some some business some future
in it. But then that ended during COVID. And you know,
people are going back to the movies. It's just it's a
different world. And and the free money train is over, it is
over. So you know, there's just not any money speculative money
that's going into these projects. You know, most most
companies are crowdfunding these days. By the way, speaking of
bull crap media companies, Vice media. Finally, finally, this
thing is going out of business,
John C Dvorak: but there's buzz, Buzzfeed News, killer, whatever
they
Adam Curry: vice media, which was blooming I used to look at
this thing all the time. Like how are these guys doing it?
They basically they started as a magazine in Canada. You know,
Shane Smith, bullcrap artists, Gavin McInnes, who started proud
boys and and ran around his podcast with a dildo buzz but
flying people. They started by hoodwinking Murdoch into a $70
million investment. But then they raised in total $900
million from Time Warner from all you know, all these
different companies. And they had no business model. They were
basically they were an advertising company that made
hip content, you know, and then they actually bought an ad
consulting company with 500 people, they built a 60,000
square foot facility in Brooklyn. And finally is like,
no one is dumb enough to put money into it and now it's just
gonna be it's gonna be going out of business. It's like it's all
of this was bull crap. It was built on bull. And Allah that's
what a lot of this the streaming stuff, I'm sorry, writers and
Spotify, who of course allowed gimlet and parcast to unionize
under the WGA to another podcasts are affected by this
Unknown: pod. All these true flags? Yes. You know that.
John C Dvorak: I know about the unionization? That gimlet Yeah.
And some of the other efforts, but that's under the Writers
Guild WGA.
Adam Curry: East. Yeah. And that was awesome. But that was also
it's crazy. It was premised on bowl. Because you and I talked
about this all the time, like you can't. The podcast model
does not work with executive producers and producers and line
producers and editors. No, it works when one or two people do
it themselves, themselves. And they may be maybe you're lucky
enough to have an extra person or like we do value for value.
We make everybody a producer and give everybody credit for making
the show and make everyone feel that they're part of the show.
But no, they weren't all Hollywood. And then when the
money dried up, we'll start selling your Neumann mics people
know I'm working off a $700 piece of gear here, dad $70,000
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: gear. Yeah. Yeah. And your gear sounds better. In
fact, as we talked about earlier before the show, I've always
thought you should win an award and I'm guaranteeing that you
will
Adam Curry: and I know what I'm going to snub I'm going to snub
the academy. Like gonna be accepting on behalf Robert
Downey Jr. You know, something like that. I'm not gonna go. No,
but it's, it's sad because I don't think there's going to be
an agreement that is satisfactory for the writers who
really just have to find they should be doing pot. In fact, I
was just talking they are. I was talking. I was talking to my
buddy who got kicked out of Disney.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Our friend. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I've never met him but kicked I consider him a
friend from before. Yes. And I have had dinner. I've stayed at
his house. So we actually are friends. So your buddy's real
true friends. And he's and he, you know, they still there. They
still have on payroll because, Oh, oops, they couldn't actually
kick him out. Because, you know, a whole division started to fall
apart. So Oh, could you please stay?
John C Dvorak: That's not reported?
Adam Curry: Well, I'm probably already going further than I
should. But as we were talking. We agreed. You cannot Hollywood
has they don't see it. They cannot go up against the number
one non union content producer in the world, which is taking
all the money. And that is tick tock. Tick tock is where all the
money is. He agreed with me.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. He said, You know, they were funny. I
mean, I I harken back to the 90s. When there was a crossover
point in this, this happens every so often is not observed
well by the pundit class. And that was the crossover point
where the game game computer game and console business was
making more money than the movie business.
Adam Curry: Oh, hundreds of millions more I would say,
John C Dvorak: yes, they were making and profiting more than
the movie business. And these crossover points take place all
the time. And it's like when something crosses over and then
everything has to adjust once it happens. And Hollywood, from
what I can tell really has been very reluctant to adjust to
anything.
Adam Curry: Well, of course, because it's all it's all been
such a wonderful system like oh, yes, well, you don't have
guaranteed minimum drama ball. Oh, no, just look I've been in
Hollywood look. You've been in Hollywood you know how it's a
bunch of arrogant dicks and everyone's in on the game. And
yet I mean there's a lot of very talented people make no mistake
incredibly talented people. But you know but all of it is the
fire leaves you you know the fire and well how great is the
writing the How great is the writing been and let's just add
to that, that how the streamers but Hollywood, whatever you want
the content creation business. They are also captured by the
magical artificial intelligence. And I think they truly believe
that they can cut costs by using chat GPT to build a bare bones
script. These people are insanely absolutely correct.
Insanely stupid. So this is another thing and they're not
going to give up on that. That's what the writers apparently also
want. guarantees that that exactly, that will not happen. I
think every article you heard is Hollywood. Writers demanding
studios regulate regulate AI so it doesn't steal their jobs. Now
of course it's going to steal your job. Yeah, how about this
just just people on Tik Tok are gonna are going to be the new
millionaires they're gonna do a great job but a lot of them are
already millionaires. They're gonna create groovy stuff and
people will enjoy it it'll be short form everyone's everyone's
horrible. Jacked up all jacked up like 30 seconds.
Unknown: Mega drug hits.
John C Dvorak: But this stuff goes on forever. I want to since
you brought up the AI thing with these guys. I want to bring up
an AI clip. Okay, here's the only one I have so we're gonna
talk about AI okay. You know that she gar and crystal ball.
They have this podcast by the way
Adam Curry: can I just say I find her outfit odd. Now blindly
listen
John C Dvorak: on audio so I don't see what she's wearing.
But
Adam Curry: you and I as producers, you know, so they
have a first of all, congratulations to them because
they let where they leave. They left the hill on the hill and
everyone like you idiots and they did a pretty good job and
the Crown Fahd crowdfunded crowdfunded stuff and people
John C Dvorak: I thought, I think of all the people that did
a spin off like that arrogantly, yes and with with criticism, I
think they did a great job they, they, they gotta have a working
operation. Although, if you listen to their more recent
podcasts, they want to get more money so they can buy a big
studio.
Adam Curry: Now I heard that the curry Devorah consulting group
would like to make a statement. Don't do it. You're stupid. We
just have to say Leo Laporte. Don't do it. Joe Rogan's studio
is like a little space that he that he subleases from a fitness
company, in an industrial area of Austin is what you see is
what it is. It's a small studio. You don't need big studios, you
don't need to be don't go that the whatever you're doing now
the thing that you have, whether it's green screen, or I'm not
quite sure what it is. It's fine. Don't Don't throw the
money away. Would you agree?
John C Dvorak: Partner? Absolutely. It's crazy. Once you
know what to think and think you're gonna turn into some you
know, massive This is the problem is getting a big head.
Instead of just pocketing the profits stop shrink your head,
trigger head. So they have they're so big now that they
have this, this couple whose name is Emily and Ryan. So every
once in a while they take they have the shows there's and
Emily, Emily's here talking about AI and how it's making an
incursion. And she makes a comment in here that and she's,
I thought I would have thought initially listening to because
I've never heard these two before that she's like cokehead
She sounds coked up. But in fact, when you listen to when
you listen to her, the
Adam Curry: whole Piper's up been doing Hollywood coke Stop
it.
John C Dvorak: You can tell she has a cold, okay? Because you
can hear, see and hear anything, but she's not coked up. She is
just got a cold, but she sounds terrible. And he or she is going
on a little bit about AI and she drops a little bombshell in here
that just I'm just a head shaker.
Unknown: Oh my gosh. And that's what Hinton is saying. I mean,
he's saying, you know, they if you think about what AI sees as
increasing its power, what a algorithm might see is
increasing power. It's cloning itself it is doing going after
other people that threatened its power, just logically, you can
understand how an algorithm would get from point A to point
B. And that creates something that spirals out of human
control very, very quickly. And so I am concerned about things
like teenagers using AI and getting you know, basically
sexually assaulted by AI. I
think that's a huge concern.
Adam Curry: Don't touch me there. Show me on the doll where
the AI assaulted you. What is that you
John C Dvorak: believe that?
Adam Curry: Well, you know, assault these days is just
saying, you know, like, Hey, nice dress, you know, that's
sexual.
John C Dvorak: Nice tickets.
Adam Curry: Go. Stop it. I don't like the word tickets. I don't
like it's always bothered me. I don't know why. I'm just saying
John C Dvorak: look within.
Unknown: Thank you. Thank you, Grace Hopper, she'll do that.
John C Dvorak: Well, so I you know, this is like, people are,
they're out of control in their analysis of AI.
Adam Curry: Okay, luckily, I have a few clips to talk about.
Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: would have gotten more this one I just thought was
okay. I don't know if you could top that one. But you can, I'm
sure come up with
Unknown: a couple of things.
Adam Curry: Let's just, it's almost like, you know, all these
euphemisms. 99% of what people are talking about is not
artificial intelligence. I'm sorry. 100% is there is no
intelligence that exists outside of humans and mammals I guess.
Or org biological organisms. That's yeah, that I think that's
safe to say. So to say it's artificial intelligence. There
is no intelligence there's only copy paste you know, scoring
things None None of this is true. And the the emails we get
from people well you know, it's going to be AI is going to be
great for people Yeah, sure. We have all kinds of tools you
know, Photoshop if you want to call it is AI Photoshop. There's
all kinds I agree
John C Dvorak: 100% With this, what you just said Photoshop is
AI you said
Adam Curry: 100% We have to rock against that we have to rock
against the 100%
John C Dvorak: I only picked it up recently. I know I'm gonna
write you I won't be able to turn it off so quickly so I
you're gonna have I'm gonna vote but I appreciate being called
out. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So that is not artificial intelligence, you
know, a transcripts that it's incredible that we use otter.ai
and cost 20 bucks a month. And I throw the mp3 in there and like
an hour later Oops out and it's it's recognized your voice it
tags you. Now, of course, half the time, it'll say it'll spell
your name JH en si Jhansi Dvorak. Sometimes it gets it
right. But it's still even identifying different voices is
quite. That's remarkable. It's remarkable, but it's not
artificial intelligence. We have a lot of this stuff. So what
what people are calling art now? Tina does all of the resumes for
the kids, you know, because this is what she does. She's very,
very good at it. She also coaches, you know, here's,
here's how you want to ask for this, you know, so there's money
for this. And so, one of the girls is, you know, up for
review when she wants to ask for some more money. And so Tina
says, you know, okay, I'll write this up. So now I have something
I'll send that to you, you take a look at it. And she says to
me, Oh, wow, she really wrote something herself. And she's
reading it to me, John, within within 30 seconds of like, chat.
GPT. Yeah. And then she went, Oh, you're right. And then we
could identify, you know, there's some repetition of
certain phrases, just chat GPT. And that's not gonna fly. You
know, I don't care how good it gets. It's just it's not.
John C Dvorak: So well, you know, it's a good start to make
it worse. You know, there's tools coming tools that are just
designed to spot that this stuff, of course. And so you
just run it through, it's like the same thing, like just stolen
papers, at RuneFest. Through the system, the computer goes both
ways. It's like a double edged sword it, you know, cuts one way
and it cuts the other. So you can't get away with this for
long.
Adam Curry: You know what, I believe AI is real, when it
really can stop spam. Okay. And why isn't that the first
application? Why isn't that the first one phone calls for that
matter? Oh, have you been I've been getting these texts. And
it's, it's been recent. So I'm not sure what happened. And it
goes like this. And I bet you a lot of people are getting these,
hey, this number has been in my phone for a long time. But I
really don't know who this is. Who are you?
John C Dvorak: Oh, I've not heard about this. But that's a
great idea.
Adam Curry: I get a lot of these. Let me see if there's
more. It's like, hey, it's all variations of that. Let me see
if I hadn't I usually get rid of them. This one came in this
morning. And it's and it's not from it's like, two or three
numbers or, you know, like known area code, not necessarily some
bullcrap one. But it's text messages, which is a bit
concerning. I wish I could find it either one of those, but it's
always
Unknown: how's the storm? Oh, how's the storm? Did it pass you
yet?
Adam Curry: Oh, I don't know, you know, and stuff like that.
It's all but it's always like, hey,
John C Dvorak: what do we do? Then? The follow up to find out
what's going on? No, I
Adam Curry: have I have a life I have things to do. How
John C Dvorak: to follow up.
Adam Curry: I'm not gonna follow up. Alright, so then we have a
big, big, big thing happen in AI world? Because remember, we all
have to be very, very afraid. Everybody who is not who doesn't
have a an AI play? Let's just call it what it is. That's how
the venture capitals talk about that. Do they have an AI play?
No, Elon Musk does not have an AI play. So what does he have to
do? He has to sign the joint letter to say we need to stop
six months so I can catch up and get my own AI play. Get it
funded? And now Oh, no, it's technology
Unknown: that could be superior to the human brain. Okay.
Adam Curry: France 24. Go back. And one
Unknown: of its pioneers now says part of him regrets his
role in creating it.
Adam Curry: This is nothing better than the Creator coming
out and saying, Oh,
Unknown: 75 year old computer scientists. Geoffrey Hinton says
he quit his job at Google so he can independently share his
concerns about AI technology.
were you gonna say?
John C Dvorak: I was gonna say, Yeah, because he's a forced
retirement.
Unknown: Get out of the company, which include fears over
disinformation and stealing human jobs. But beyond that, you
hit
Adam Curry: this this is this is a trend. We heard the Writers
Guild of America talks about stealing jobs. This is we're
picking up on something. And now France 24 is talking about AI
stealing jobs, which include
Unknown: fears over disinformation and stealing
human jobs, but also go far beyond that.
What do we do to mitigate the long term risks of things more
intelligent than us taking control things like GPT for
Eclipse is a person in the amount of general knowledge it
has an eclipses and by a long way, in terms of reasoning, it's
not as good but it doesn't really do simple reasoning.
Adam Curry: Okay, let's just break this down. He says had
more knowledge than any human ever has bullcrap. I have
Google.
John C Dvorak: And he also said in terms of reasoning, It's not
very good. Exactly neither. And you're, that's the other thing.
They said, Well, I can have more effect, I was thinking the same
thing you just said, which is that we have never accumulated
in our own brains, the Encyclopedia Britannica, but
we've always had the encyclopedia that we could look.
It's like an extension. It's like a human extension, right?
So how's it going to really outdo us? Because all of those
human extensions are the only thing that it has access to.
It's not. It's not developing new stuff out of the blue. Also,
Adam Curry: I think that as a human, I have Google foo. I
mean, I can search things and get answers that other people
can't because I know how to input the queries. Oh, I'm great
at a prompt query. I'm gonna prompt engineer douchebags. This
is a whole new category of douchebag. I'm a prompt
engineer.
John C Dvorak: Do you just admit to being one,
Adam Curry: I am one, but I don't put it on my resume.
Unknown: And given the rate of progress, we expect things to
get better quite fast. So we need to worry about that.
Adam Curry: Worry about it. It's getting better quite fast.
Worried might ask
John C Dvorak: you something, please. Who is this guy?
Adam Curry: This is the Google AI pioneer.
John C Dvorak: I never heard of him. No, of
Adam Curry: course not.
John C Dvorak: Have you heard of him? No.
Adam Curry: Don't even mention his name. Ai pioneer.
John C Dvorak: He said that you missed his name on and off
again. But he 75 ai pioneer How come I haven't heard of it. And
he's old enough. He's 75. He literally is old enough to have
been part of that first AI go round back in the 80s. He took
Adam Curry: he took his absence when they knew they were going
to kick them out. Because that's what Google's doing to get rid
of everybody. And he's out there now doing this too. If they get
his own, he wants money. Like how can I score some money? Oh,
maybe if I warned about this, someone will pick me up as
what's the word an artificial intelligence? Ah, ethics ethics
guy ethics professional.
John C Dvorak: The there'll be some like that's actually dead
analysis is on 100% Oh, you have to stop this. I would try to
stop it in mid chat. And I decided to go through with it.
But
Unknown: if you know, I have no respect for you. So this guy is
Adam Curry: really trying to garner up a gig.
Unknown: It's just the latest warning that tech companies
might be creating a monster they can't control. In March after
open AI released the latest model of its chat bot GBT for
more than 1000 people from the tech industry including
billionaire Elon Musk,
Adam Curry: which of course is always the mark of a smart man
Unknown: and Apple co founder Steve Wozniak signed a letter
calling for
Adam Curry: Wozniak dated Kathy Yeah. What's your face? He does
not smart guy. Remember that? Kathy Griffin?
Unknown: Jr. He did? Yes. So he's
John C Dvorak: been married for a long time. He's a good guy.
Everyone loves Wozniak. Sure,
Adam Curry: but doesn't mean he's smart. That was a bad date.
John C Dvorak: And Apple co founders, like Kathy Griffin
would for good reason. The co
Unknown: founder Steve Wozniak, signed a letter calling for a
pause on AI development. While the risks are properly studied.
Can you thought well, organizations like the OECD have
issued guidelines, little AI regulation exists. The US just
launched a study of possible accountability measures in
April, and the European Union has put forward an artificial
intelligence act, but the far reaching legislation has yet to
be passed.
Adam Curry: So this is all this is just another Gambit. And I
know you agree with me. So it's not even a discussion to be had.
Silicon Valley tech companies like they have nothing. By the
way it costs some astronomical obscene amount to keep the
servers running for this no business model business they
have. You can't advertise on chat GPT. And what are you going
to do with that? How are you going to suck the information
out of people how you're going to suck them dry? And well
they're trying to get
John C Dvorak: right now they're using a subscription model? Oh,
Adam Curry: who's gonna pay for that? People don't pay for
stuff. They won't pay for it. They won't. They're gonna I
agree. I agree. And there's enough open source versions that
you know, I mean, you can even transcripts, you can now run on
your own computer. I just don't want to dedicate a machine to
it. And I'm happy to just give it to someone else who approves
it. I don't I don't I have no time to maintain it. So that's
that's it's not a business. So now they have to involve the
government. Oh, yeah. Well, regulation, okay. So now we can
be we can be regulated, which means we have all the money and
then we can charge company you know, they're moving away from
the business to consumer model with this and and of course, it
uses more energy than all of Bitcoin put together, but make
no mention of that. And even in the United States, of course,
now we have to set up meetings to have a meeting everybody is
from CNBC. This is Gina Raimondo. She's our Commerce
Secretary, an AI genius. I say we also
Unknown: want to lead the world in AI. We want to do it safely,
safely.
Madam Secretary, you're you're part of this meeting that the
Vice President is holding tomorrow with
Adam Curry: Kamla Harris is holding a meeting with Gina
Raimondo about AI, I would pay money to sit in that meeting,
John C Dvorak: oh, I would like to be a fly on the wall. I can't
Adam Curry: wait for the Vice President to talk about AI.
Please, Kamala tell it better,
John C Dvorak: they better put to bring the cameras in the
crew, you want to see this? We want that live CEOs
Unknown: of Google and Microsoft and open AI. And I'm curious
what the what the goal is, and what your concern level is
around some of this technology.
The concern level is high. You know, it's a challenge because
on the one hand, the excitement level is high. When you think
about the promise and potential of AI, and what it means for
advances in health care, advances in education, advances
in business, as you say, health care,
Adam Curry: baby health care, because chat GPT can fix you a
healthcare. It's the advantages this is this is huge. The future
It's all ahead of us. There's a world of possibilities
Unknown: in healthcare advances in education, advances in
business, as you say, we're in the lead, and we want to keep
the lead. But it has to be done safely. Incredibly powerful
technology. So we want to have a serious discussion with
industry. As you know, tomorrow will be one discussion among
many that we're having with many stakeholders to try to figure
out how we prove how we go fast, but without breaking things.
Adam Curry: Well, that's a great twist on Facebook's motto, very
good Gita. So stupid. All right, I want to move off of this. I
want to move you into yours in some into some of your clips.
Because I see what you have here. I think it is the news of
the day and we will have a different takes on this. I will
start with a short clip of Nigel Farage interviewing presidential
hopeful and former President Donald Trump about the drone war
Unknown: and that person. I mean, today, they're saying
there's been an attempted drone strike by the Ukrainians on the
Kremlin. We don't yet know the full truth. Have you seen that
story? I have not seen it yet. Okay. All right. Well, we know
that that's the I mean, they're quite small drones. But the
truth of it is, there's a growing I sense in America
unhappiness about the money that's been given to Ukraine.
Why does nobody talk about peace and pleased negotiations?
John C Dvorak: So if I were president, and I say this, I
will end that war one day, it'll take 24 hours. I know Zielinski.
Well. I know, Putin. Well, we get ended in a period of about
100%. Don't ever say
Adam Curry: even Trump is saying it 100% 100 Pro Han or pissant
100%. I'm so disappointed that people do this. Okay. So let's
talk about this drone. You got clips?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is a clip from Al Jazeera. No, they
have so so it's actually interesting report. You created
a start and just go with it. I mean, I didn't. I intended just
to play this first part, just first clip, which is you go to
one. Clip one, Russia. Sorry. But, but as I kept playing that
it's a long report and I kept playing it. Oh, I gotta clip
this. I gotta clip that. So it turns out to be pretty long.
Let's go with this the setup.
Unknown: Russia has threatened retaliation for what it says was
an assassination attempt on President Vladimir Putin. The
Kremlin says two drones were used in an attack on the
presidential residence in the early hours of Wednesday. It
claims Ukraine was behind it. But Kiva strongly denies the
allegations.
This is what the Kremlin says was an attempt on the life of
Vladimir Putin. And all object is intercepted by air defenses.
Russia says it was a drone, one of two that officials say were
launched by Ukraine in an audacious attack aimed at the
Kremlin complex. Two unmanned aerial vehicles were aimed at
the Kremlin and official statement reads as a result of
timely actions taken by the military and special services
with the use of radar warfare systems, the devices were put
out of action.
Adam Curry: I think there's a backdrop to this that there was
a so called drone which looked like an oversize RC aircraft
with apparently with a block of C four in it. That didn't quite
make it to Moscow and crashed landed and there's photos of it
and it's sort of like It's like one of those remote control
planes. Is that you that you see at a demo demonstration day?
Yeah, this is not this is not a Reaper drone. No,
John C Dvorak: there's a dipshit, drones, dip shield
Adam Curry: drones. Exactly.
John C Dvorak: So, so then I sit down, that's the report. That's
pretty much all we need. But then it goes on, they started to
do some analysis. And in this next clip, they have the blink
and clip that I've been trying to find. Which is this, you
know, spa, the world's worst analogy, and you'll hear it in
here. And then I will talk about it for a second because it's,
the guy doesn't seem to get the gist of this old analogy. LET'S
PLAY CLIP two.
Unknown: So the Kremlin said that this is a wedge drone
attack was a dry run in preparation for May the nine to
add puts him will be vulnerable because his whereabouts unknown
and events.
It is a theory that not everyone is convinced about.
I've seen the reports. I can't in any way validate them. We
simply we simply don't know. Second, I would take anything
coming out of the Kremlin with a very large shaker of salt. Okay,
what? A shaker of salt.
John C Dvorak: So when I first heard about the shaker of salt
comment, I was dig trying to dig it up. And it turned out luckily
have showed up in Al Jazeera. This the analogy of course, as
you know, you've heard it, I'll take it with a grain of salt. I
mean, it's meaningless because a grain of salt is nothing. It's a
grain, so who cares? But a shaker of salt is not
meaningless. That's a lot of salt. Yes, it sure is.
Adam Curry: So what is
John C Dvorak: he trying to say? Is this is actually saying that
this is a big deal, because that's what his analogy implies.
Adam Curry: Well, I think what he's trying to say is, it's
Russian disinformation. We all know the Kremlin lies, but he's
no, that's
John C Dvorak: what he's saying. He's saying that overtly. But to
use the analogy of a grain of salt to a shaker of salt. Yeah,
he's an idiot.
Adam Curry: Oh, I know. He got this from Chad GPT GPT
suggestion. And, you know, I don't think it was Ukraine. I
don't think it was something that it was probably just some
some kid on the outskirts of Moscow. I mean, this this thing
was nothing special. was ever to see for well, we don't know if
this had C four on it. We don't know I thought you said the
first one. No, the first one. The first one but that crashed
way short of but doesn't matter. It's this is all to me. It's all
distraction. Let's see.
John C Dvorak: I I agree with your clip three. He's got to
laugh in it. So let's go there.
Unknown: On a visit to Finland. President Solinsky denied
Ukraine's involvement. So
we don't attack Putin or Moscow. Or we fight on on our territory.
We're defending our religiousness. It is. We don't
have you know, enough weapon for this.
John C Dvorak: He's begging for money again.
Adam Curry: He got some I think. I think we gave him some more
money on Wednesday.
John C Dvorak: That's a slippery way of begging for my uh, you
know, we did nothing to do with it. But we can in fact, we can't
even afford it. We can't afford it if you give us a money maybe
we do it dude.
Adam Curry: We could crowdfund that drone. I mean, this guy is
unbelievable. wait and wait until you hear my clips you
share it. Okay, so
John C Dvorak: here we go with this that final clip on the
drones the reaction
Unknown: get even as air raid siren sounded in the Ukrainian
capital. The mere possibility that Ukraine had struck a blow
at the heart of Russian power was thrilling for some
of my classmates and I have been talking about this all day. It's
very cool and very joyful. It's lifted my spirits.
In its official statement, the Kremlin said it reserves the
right to take retaliatory measures where and when it sees
fit.
John C Dvorak: Now, of course, they would say so the Ukrainian
students are all jacked up about this. Yeah.
Adam Curry: I mean, you really believe that this is just this
is propaganda. This is
John C Dvorak: I mean, to a point but they they were
somebody that it wasn't like an actor
Adam Curry: or the students in school. I thought that you know,
the, the Russian Russia was attacking keep everyone's has to
hide because they're getting ready for the spring offensive.
It's all propaganda. All the journalists are hooting and
hollering up in in Poland they're all drinkin hanging out
with the women of the night.
Unknown: What's good is what you do.
John C Dvorak: Women of the night
Adam Curry: I don't know why I said night All right, so let's
get back. Let's get back to reality as, as we have to wind
this war down. We have to wind this war down. We have an actual
war that we're not an actual war, but we have sales jobs. We
have stuff to do over there in Philippines and Taiwan, China.
See, there's real money to be had people we've got this guy is
he wants to tiddlywinks. Ms no sales in these drones? No, we're
not. We got to wind this down. So how do we do it? Well, let's
crank up the old narrative of we're going to apply prosecute
Putin, because not Russia, of course, we'd love the Russian
people. It's all about Putin. So how do we do that? Well, we have
to get them to the place where we have successfully prosecuted
Putin before. And that is the Hague in the Netherlands. And
nothing like doing a little ceremony on the eve of May 5,
actually was there may 4 with which is on the eve of May 5,
may 5 is Liberation Day in the Netherlands a big deal. On
something very impressive, the Dutch still do. And that is May
4 8pm. There is a moment of a minute of silence. And literally
people stop their cars on the highway get out. And we'll just
stand there and be silent for a minute to remember the fallen of
World War Two. So of course, we've got to bring this Nazi in.
Because the AES off brigade is literally naming streets after
Nazi heroes and some of the Dutch are onto it. Now there's
people writing about this and paper saying hey, why is this
guy here on this day? But that would not be the message we get
from Mark Ritter. And that is the way you pronounce it. M five
M Rita? Who is a unmarried, childless former HR manager at
Unilever. Yes.
John C Dvorak: How are they pronouncing it on the M five M?
Unknown: Root? root root root? Root? root root? Jimmy Dore does
it. Dude, call one Dutch please call me
Adam Curry: to tell you what anything you want. So Luca is an
unmarried, childless former HR manager Unilever, somehow he has
been the prime minister for I think 10 years now. Didn't know
maybe you'd want this is his fourth cabinet. Keep, just keep
keep keep him in there. And he welcomes valora Mia, to the
Hegge floor. It has been 434 days since you spoke a few
simple words that resonated all over the world.
Unknown: And I see what you were saying then.
Adam Curry: Sorry, I got a bus, the Dutch guy. And I instead of
it's called, quote, I'll be quoting you, Rita, I'll quote
you instead of I will say what you were saying then. And I see
what you're saying then. We are all here defending our
independence, our country. And it will stay this way. This what
you said. And it's those are riveting words. You Oh, my gosh,
I'm so glad we're all in front of the Ukraine fly
John C Dvorak: to hear the regular Winston Churchill, that
guy. We are all here
Adam Curry: defending our independence, our country. And
it will stay this way. This what you said. And it will be an
understatement to say that you've have to work to resolve
and courage of the brave soldiers and citizens Ukraine is
without precedent in our lifetime. Wow. without precedent
in our lifetime. There's a lot of people who are still around a
world war two dude who you're about to celebrate. And I would
say, you know, there's some differences in World War Two and
what you're seeing in Ukraine, but okay. And yourself has
become a symbol or for the country and country or country.
I like the country nice country has become a symbol or for the
country, and its people can do when they're fighting for the
existence, their freedom, and your future. And we all admire
you for that. Yes, we by the way, everyone's in a suit. Now
it's a nice reception. And he's he's got his that. His
trademark. What does that drab olive drab with a little logo in
the middle which is now his whole that's his costume. You
know, that little
John C Dvorak: little Yang costume is so tight fitting t
shirt with sleeves.
Adam Curry: He's got he's got he's got his costume. I like
Star Trek costume. All right. Now let's get into the meat of
what we're really doing here. When I had to, by the way, I
think that this was organized by the State Department the whole
thing from beginning to end, and I think I can prove it. Our
State Department when I had the privilege to address the members
of the Rabbah almost a year ago As I said, we will stay with you
every inch of the way.
Unknown: As far as I'm aware,
Adam Curry: Ukraine, the Netherlands most of the EU most
of the world uses the metric system. Why would you say every
inch of the way unless it was written by the US State
Department? Winner
Unknown: seriously,
John C Dvorak: this could have been written by chat GPT Yeah,
Adam Curry: you gotta go. I said, we will stay with you
every inch of the way. And let me assure you Volodymyr depths,
we are determined to keep our word now let's get to the meat
of the problem here. What do we got to end this war man? What
are we gonna do? Because this is an unjust war against everything
we stand for. Now. This is also American State Department
talking points and unjust war. Since when is war just is it
ever really just I mean, maybe I'm,
John C Dvorak: I think you're onto something here. This is an
interesting situation. It's quite likely that the State
Department put this together. Not only that, but as corny. Oh,
which is classic Blinken.
Adam Curry: The whole shaker inch by inch. Exactly.
John C Dvorak: Step by step slowly, I turned
Adam Curry: is an inch by inch. Isn't that the Robert De Niro
speech in that football movie?
John C Dvorak: inch by inch really comes from the Three
Stooges, I think are one of these.
Adam Curry: All right, it's not a just war, not a just war. It's
not fair. Because this is an unjust war against everything we
stand for. This was war against freedom, democracy, and rule of
law in our parts of the world rule of law. Yeah, it's actually
as we know, it's a rule. It's a war of aggression. Aggression.
That's right, we stand
John C Dvorak: by away rule, that rule of law, meme, blah,
blah, blah, is very American rule of law, of course,
Adam Curry: course democracy, and rule of law in our parts of
the rules. That's why we stand with Ukrainian people that had
the bastion of democracy, which is Ukraine. And right, you can
count on our unwavering support unwavering. Russia cannot read
this word and must be held accountable. All the crimes of
aggression, and the injustice. There it is the crimes of
aggression that we do, we have to look at these euphemisms, the
crime of aggression. So if I'm aggressive, that's a crime. If
I'm aggressive in my speaking patterns, if I'm aggressive on
the playing field, if I'm aggressive in my academic
studies, that is a crime. That literally calling the crime of
aggression helped me John.
John C Dvorak: No, no, you're on a roll.
Adam Curry: Russia cannot read this word. And it must be held
accountable for all the crimes of aggression, and the injustice
that this inflicting on the people of Ukraine, day after day
in this horrific world. So what better place to meet Dan here in
The Hague, to vehicle capital of the world? In case you didn't
know, The Hague is the legal capital of the world.
John C Dvorak: And that we're miniature world is
Adam Curry: Maduro, dumb, whatever. It's called in Maduro.
Dom Yeah, it's it's actually close. It's I think it's between
the Hague and Rotterdam miniature world miniature world.
So it's it's quite cute Maduro Dom
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's dynamite. I would recommend
every anyone who has a chance to visit this little operation to
do do little to go do it. I've fastened it anyway. I'm with you
on everything so far, but I've got my conclusion is different
than yours.
Adam Curry: By the way the Maduro dam is in The Hague. I'm
sorry. It's not between Hague and Rotterdam, thanks to NPC.
Alright, what's your conclusion?
John C Dvorak: We're going to we're gearing up to actually do
an invasion. boots on the ground American soldiers.
Adam Curry: No, absolutely not. We're gearing up to end the war.
And we're doing it with all these fluffy we're and the way
we do it is we come up with we come up with a way to take the
money that we confiscated, illegal way back for the crimes
of aggression. Then we prosecute Putin in the capital of the
legal capital of the world, just like we did before. So what
better place to meet than here in The Hague, the legal capital
of the world ever since the downing of Flight MH 17 in the
Netherlands have known that Justice doesn't come
automatically. And this was mh 17, the Malaysian flight which
they
John C Dvorak: rigged, the rigged report never been
released. The box has never been released as phony the same.
They're just making the Hague look like a phony baloney
operation when he brings that in.
Adam Curry: And they brought in Bellingcat. The same the same
intelligence operation who had all the proof of the boot rocket
being shot from Russia. No, he was Ukraine. We I mean, man, we
did so much on it. We had so much coverage of that. So he's
pulling these two together. And of course, that's just over now.
Oh, no, no, we already know that doesn't come easily. But but you
know, it we all know it's as good as it's as good as we
basically have him hanging Putin for MH 17 And we'll hang him for
this too, so that everybody can take the money final payout.
Everybody gets their cash. That's what's going on. I make
some tea. We in the Netherlands have known that justice doesn't
come automatically. You have to have staying power.
John C Dvorak: Setting power. That means you need to buy
deodorant commercially the
Adam Curry: Viagra of law I don't I don't know what kind of
state and power you need. But that's weird. Let's have known
you know the State Department. Hey, hey, I know I was putting
some funny was putting the staying power just see if anyone
catches it make make that Rick root guy say that make him say
that. Okay, that's cool. Did justice doesn't come
automatically. You have to have staying power. The Netherlands
will do everything it can to ensure that justice is done for
Ukraine, however long it takes. And however difficult it may be.
It's the term is whatever it takes. But okay. Flow to me, I
should know your fish to the Netherlands couldn't have come
at the more symbolic moment. Every year. On the fourth of May
we remember the Dutch victims of the Second World War, and all
the soldiers who have given their life since then, for peace
and freedom worldwide. Tomorrow on the fifth of May Liberation
Day, we are fortunate that we can celebrate that we have been
a free country since 1945. And a lot of Dutch are pissed about
this. Like what is that guy doing here? This is a this is
our war remembrance. For our people. The country was
flattened. people ate sugar beets. They ate nettle soup with
rocks. So now Now, I'm not liking that. So Zelinsky then
goes to the International Criminal Court and does a little
bit and I'm not going to tell you what the backdrop. All these
things have a backdrop with their slogan. And it was a
printed slogan, which I'm not going to tell you just yet,
because the term is used in this report from France 24. Luckily,
we don't have to listen to him talking. We have the F 24. Lady
to tell us kind of exactly what Volodymyr said in this. In this
speech at the International Criminal Court.
Unknown: He also talked about the importance of justice that
there can be no peace without justice.
Adam Curry: Literally on the background and said no peace for
Ukraine without justice. Does that sound familiar?
John C Dvorak: That's one of our one of our lefty slogans from
the United States.
Adam Curry: No, George Floyd, No justice, no peace. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: there's a George Floyd. Yep. So we made it. But
it's been around forever, that it's always the same thing.
Adam Curry: But but now they've just turned it around and said,
there will be no peace for Ukraine without justice. So what
they're saying is in the way I see it, is we will call peace
after we have justice. What is justice, that means we convict
Putin, we don't have to throw him in jail. We have just like
mh 17 We convict him. We take the money that we confiscated,
and then we make peace.
Unknown: He also talked about the importance of justice, that
there can be no peace without justice, because unless issues
are fully properly resolved, they simply erupt again later
on. For him, it is vital that Vladimir Putin is held to
account at this court, he made no bones about that. And he also
said that that should be stipulated in any negotiated
peace agreement that there must be no repetition of aggression,
Adam Curry: repetition of aggression, all that horrible
crime, again, by Russia,
Unknown: towards Ukraine. So he is very clearly setting out his
points. It is true that Ukraine might not get all at once and
there is a lot of discussion about when this war might end,
and what might constitute some sort of acceptable settlement to
Ukraine. So it's about the money and there are murmurings that
perhaps Ukraine should settle for the 2014 borders and forget
about Crimea. He is saying No way, we want Crimea back. We
want our territory. And we want our values, which are universal
values respected.
Adam Curry: So that's new. He's not gonna get he's not gonna get
Crimea. He's just he just using that as a chip. We need
universal values back to the back to the 94. What did you
say? 9094? Let
John C Dvorak: me say they had a date I forget what it was just
check it.
Unknown: Was it this one? Hey, oh, I have to rewind. There we
go.
Let's forget about Crimea. He is saying No way. Was it here for
the 2014 borders
Adam Curry: 2014 borders, okay, which is, which is kind of what
Putin wants. So we get to 2014 borders back to which is the
Donbass region, which may be just a demilitarized zone. And
then you get your money, which is kind of ABS it's probably
already been stolen by now. So everyone already hadn't. Lansky
has billions and offshore bank accounts. This is coming to an
end. So I do not think there's boots on the ground coming. And
the reason for that is this next report, which is obvious what
what everyone's looking at because what do we have we have
a dinky toy dipshit drone flying over the Kremlin. Volodymyr
saying we don't have we don't have we don't have this
capability. Now because it's all over here, bro.
Unknown: Well, the Taiwan US Defense Industry Forum was an
event where people gathered mainly to discuss how to buy and
sell more weapons. It lasted around three hours it took place
with a convention center in Taipei and representatives of
around 25 US defense contractors reportedly attended and days
before here in Beijing, the spokesman of China's defense
ministry said that he was quote unquote, extremely concerned
about the forum he criticized the US as military industrial
complex and accused Taiwan's ruling DPP of inviting wolves
into their home. There's also been a few editorials that were
published in Chinese state media criticizing the event last week
in the past few days. So we haven't seen much new this
Wednesday morning, though we have recorded an uptick in
Chinese military activity in around the Taiwan Strait. And it
is a little bit too early to save this has a direct link to
that event or not. What I can say though, is that the forum
isn't really much of a big deal. If you look at the bigger
picture, the US has already sold 10s of billions of dollars worth
of weapons to Taipei since 1979. And earlier this year,
Washington approved the sale of $619 million worth of weapons,
including F 16. fighter jet to Taipei, that was the biggest
sale of 2023. So far. So these activities aren't going to stop
anytime soon. These deals do do come though, as Beijing has been
ramping up pressure military and political pressure on the self
Rhode Island in recent years.
Adam Curry: So we'll do whatever it takes for Ukraine. But the f6
teams that go into Taiwan biggest sale of the year. This
is it. This is the Bonanza they don't give a crap about Ukraine.
John C Dvorak: We're putting boots on the ground. That's why
Susan Rice quick.
Adam Curry: She's She's running mic Obama's campaign, bro.
John C Dvorak: Whatever it takes is a term that keeps coming up.
And the only way Biden is going to stand off as he thinks is if
he gets foot feet on the ground, because that's the way you
always Americans always think, well, you know, you're in a
conflict. We can't abandon our president now.
Adam Curry: Yes, I read the newsletter. And that is that is
sent in edit. No, I'm sorry. I was out doing important things.
There was nothing to edit, do you? It was fine. I didn't see
any mistakes. But I'm sorry. You're right. I got distracted.
And that was it. I was prepping for the show. That is a that is
certainly a playbook American presidents have used but he is
being taken down. He's been being taken down by the Democrat
Party. He's a marked man. There's no way and they're just
enlisting the Republicans now. I didn't know what is wrong with
this weather with what's wrong with this clip. Now, why won't
this play? Let me say
John C Dvorak: I want to mention something I did get a note from
one of our producers who's in the army who said that he's over
there. And he says the reporting about soldiers in Ukraine
already is not being handled at all by the mainstream media. And
I'm telling you, something's up.
Unknown: Hold on a second. I have it here. Oh, this is really
weird. This clip, it's got this whole Grassley thing. I wonder
what's gonna happen to this clip. You've heard about this.
The the here we got to see if I play it this way. Maybe this
will work. Let me say
Adam Curry: that Yeah, listen to this. Listen, I don't know why
it's not playing my regular system. Here we go. Senator. I
Unknown: know you've also just issued a statement on you, as
well as your colleague James Comer demanding the FBI record
on alleging criminal, this criminal scheme involving then
Vice President Biden, this congressional subpoena, you say
seeks a specific FBI document. Senator, thank you for jumping
on with us. What
can you tell us? Well, I will only add to what you say that
this comes from credible and on classified whistleblower
disclosures, this possible criminal activity when Biden was
vice president. And we're, we want this information. And
there's a subpoena going to be areas issued now. And it really
boils down to my traditional oversight of government.
Particularly see the executive branch's doing the work that
they're supposed to be doing. So the Justice Department, the FBI
needs to come clean to the American people what they did
with the document, because we know the document exists from
very credible whistleblower information that we got. We can
we really need to know what steps did the Justice Department
and FBI take to investigate? And to vet the document to determine
if it's accurate or not? And did the Justice Department the FBI
follow normal investigative procedures? Or did they let
political calculations interfere?
Adam Curry: So it's a double whammy? Which is of course what
Obama does Obama is run by the CIA. So we blame the FBI and we
get Biden out for an actual crime, not something his kid
did. No for an actual crime on US soil. This is a setup and you
called it you call that you call the takedown of Biden. Now you
know, your was
John C Dvorak: fighting back and he's going to fight back by
sending troops to Ukraine. That's the way he's gonna fight
back. While he knows what's what's going on.
Adam Curry: Wow. Yeah, okay. Well, but the military
industrial complex, they don't want
John C Dvorak: it. They're just, they're just looking at their
bank accounts.
Adam Curry: They're all in Taiwan with the ladies of the
night.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's more money. It's just more money. And
the 60s, you know, who gives a shit those things? You got to
face those things out and started selling the expensive F
30? Fives.
Adam Curry: The dog the dog that don't fly.
Unknown: Flies, tell me what.
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, while all this is going down in 2023 It's
unbelievable. But there's still a whole country that will stop
dead in its tracks to watch an old dude with an old bag getting
a golden golden coach and be turned into the king.
Unknown: Anti monarchy protesters in the UK are under
close watch. Ahead of the coronation. The British Home
Office has issued a warning letter saying planned peaceful
protests on coronation day will be firmly blocked.
Adam Curry: I love planned peaceful protests. In the US
Those are cool even during COVID. There they will be
blocked
Unknown: strong measures are in place to prevent any disruptive
activity. A new law will enable 12 months imprisonment for
protesters blocking roads, airports and railways unless it
from the home offices police powers unit says the law has
been brought to prevent disruption at major sporting and
cultural events blocking process of the king of the climate
activists have unleashed the law also lays down six months in
jail and a fine for protesters locking onto other objects
including buildings like mark of protest.
This is great.
John C Dvorak: You can name it activists.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, the climate activist even though he's the
climate guy is like
John C Dvorak: a climate nut ball. These are they should be
pleased as punch that this guy's getting in
Adam Curry: now, but that's because they're they're bold.
They're bold. They're both by the way the members of the
public had been invited to swear their allegiance to the king.
They have people around the UK and abroad who will be invited
to say the words I swear I will pay true allegiance to Your
Majesty and Your heirs and successors according to the law.
So help me God says
Unknown: onto other objects including buildings as a mark of
protest right police powers to stop and search protesters if
they suspect they're planning to cause chaos anti monarchy group
Republic described the letter as very odd. The group has been
planning protests on coronation day, their boundaries to read
knots making reports say are the units like Climate Group
extinction rebellion have been sent similar lunches. Many
groups have his house what they called certain action by the
home office. They call this a restriction of freedom of speech
and right to a peaceful and legitimate protest.
Adam Curry: Well, of course the UK is is a speech free zone,
man. As in you can't use any.
John C Dvorak: Yeah and go to the corner Speaker's Corner if
you
Adam Curry: remember I went there on Tina, I were in the UK,
it was nobody there.
John C Dvorak: I've been there a number of times I stay at a
place that's nearby. When I'm in London. We
Adam Curry: were there more recent than us. Probably. Yeah.
There's
John C Dvorak: been anybody there. I first time I was in
there. And Alana was in 1973. There was nobody there. I
Adam Curry: was there in 19. See, I was 15. So that makes me
76. My dad took me and we went to Speaker's Corner. I was very
impressed. And there was no a one or two guys standing on the
corner there talking to us.
John C Dvorak: Socialist. Yeah.
Adam Curry: But yeah, you can't say anything on social media.
You can't do anything there anything. And now he's like, Oh,
you want a peaceful protest? No, no, six months in jail. No.
Peaceful protest. No, no peaceful protest for
John C Dvorak: Yeah, happy. Now if we're going to talk about
this topic, and I want to mention here that I've been
listening to some more podcasts than usual. Yeah, they spend
hours on one topic. The Royals were on no any one topic. Yeah.
We've already on our fourth topic here. Yeah. So let's go to
so now I've got NPR is decided to become the frontman row and
and promoter of Camilla
Unknown: really, really the HorseFace
John C Dvorak: Do you want a listen to a report that is so
disgusting. It's like a hagiography just over the air of
Camilla and the whole setup the whole thing? It's, it's to me
it's remarkable. It's I
Adam Curry: think, yes, I do, of course. And it feels to me like
this is very wrong. Certainly the NPR listening audience. I
believe that they were that the NPR audience is Lady die Fans.
And if you're a Lady Diana fan, which I would say I was a fan. I
mean, she I disagree with the whole story. You know, boohoo
poor poor princess now now she was a she was a media whore. And
she liked it. And that eventually got her killed. But
you know how she was treated versus Camilla. Camilla is just
she is Beelzebub compared to Lady die.
John C Dvorak: Well, we're gonna hear the update on this because
we have one of the key experts in pushing boo boos narratives
coming on. But let's go with Camilla one NPR
Unknown: over the past several decades. The one time Camilla
Parker Bowles has been known as many things.
Adam Curry: By the way, I think we should all go by our full
middle names Adam Clark curry and John Charles Dvorak and
Camilla Parker Bowles
Unknown: of the rakish Brigadier Andrew Parker Bowles, girlfriend
of the heir to the throne. But most of all the other woman in
what turned out to be the not so fairytale marriage of Charles
and Diana. And this Saturday, she will officially have a new
title Queen Tina Brown wrote the palace papers inside the House
of Windsor. And she's on the line to talk with us about
kimolos winding journey. Tina, welcome back to the show. Thank
you so much. For Americans who are not obsessed with the Royals
and who might know Camilla mainly for her role in the
breakup of King Charles is then Prince Charles's first marriage
reminds us of her background separate from Charles,
Adam Curry: this is so not left this obsessed,
Unknown: obsessed, obsessed with the queen obsessed with the
Royals at fest.
Adam Curry: It's something that all American women, for some
reason get to get a day off from being political, and they can
all be obsessed. Oh, I love the hat. I love the coach. It's a
fairy tale. It's it's weird.
John C Dvorak: Now, this particular presentation, I find
to be completely offensive. And they bring in Tina Brown who is
famous and she's like, I don't know if she's royal washer, a
royal watch. Well, I mean, she's the one who started Vanity Fair.
She's a very famous editor. And you bring her in to do a hatchet
job of some sort or some professional, not a hit job in
this case, but a flattery job. And so we're going to be re
educated about the greatness of Camilla now say you're way off
with your data analysis yours that's old. That's the old
analysis, did a new analysis I want you to stay I want to ask
her.
Adam Curry: Well, of course this is you know, we have a special
relationship between the US and the UK. So every person who has
authority to speak of the Royals has to have like we had to be a
friend of so One or been at parties. So what do we know what
her connection was what Tina Brown's connection
John C Dvorak: if you go to a wiki page and start looking at
you'll see there's some deep connection to Kingsman or
something who knows. Let's go to part two of these clips coming
to
Unknown: comes from a very upper class squire rocky kind of a
background. Her father was a major, very, very, extremely
well regarded veteran hero actually, in the Second World
War. Her mother was an aristocrat, so she always was
raised in the extremely sort of aristocratic Millia of a country
debutante if you like in on the Sussex down so her whole her
circle was always extremely upper class bumping up against
Royals in every conceivable shape and form.
I've always thought of Charles as sort of a stiff kind of
awkward person, although he's grown into his role over the
years. What is her reputation?
Adam Curry: What is this NPR lady? No. He was he was always a
little bit stiff.
John C Dvorak: But no, this is like scripted. You're weird.
This is so scripted. It this is i It's almost like an advert. A
one of those phony baloney ads. It's like it's almost like an
advertisement.
Adam Curry: Is she referring to a native ad? Is she referring to
the time when we had the the leaked phone call of Prince
Charles saying to Camilla I wish it was your tampon? Is that Is
that what she means? Really, then he kind of grew into his
role
Unknown: either will shape and form.
I've always thought of Charles as sort of a stiff kind of
awkward personal though he's grown into his role over the
years. What is her reputation or the public sensibilities? No,
this
always wildly attractive, tremendously earthy,
earthy, earthy.
Absolutely. times you know, Compeller really was and indeed
her her brother and sister were very appealing to they were
known as the sexy fans because the Shan family she was you
know, Camilla Shand? You know, they were very appealing country
family, always the sort of toast of every debutante party and
hold on so she was a very appealing woman and she could
have really married anyone. She was definitely extremely popular
on the on the sort of, you know, the single woman's circuit.
Well, you say appealing, but what
Adam Curry: else did she date on the single woman circuit? Who
else
John C Dvorak: they go they present this and then of course,
her next commentary is kind of again is different. She presents
her as like some hottie back in the day, and the toast of the
town and you know, her and her siblings, and so so that she's
she's developing this, this, this narrative that is just it's
hard to believe
Adam Curry: let me finish let me finish this clip. There's 22
seconds left home
Unknown: definitely are extremely popular on the on the
sort of, you know, the single woman's circuit.
Well, you say appealing, but there was a point where she was
one of the most hated women in Britain, I believe the year
after she married Charles, which was 2005. A poll for The Times
of London found only 21% of the British public would be happy to
have her as queen. But last year, just a few days after
Queen Elizabeth died, a different poll showed that 53%
of the British public thought she'd do a good job in her new
role. How does she manage that turnaround?
Adam Curry: I don't see any dating history of her on the
wiki pedia. When she did launch the big bone walk campaign,
whatever that is. Wow.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so we're that was clip one, clip two,
part three. Okay, well, let's go with Step Three because now we
get the WTF clip.
Unknown: Well, first of all, you know, that's the reason she was
so unpopular was really because she was always seen through the
prism of being, you know, the usurper of the adored Princess
Diana. So you know, Diana used to call her the Rottweiler and
you know, she was not a glamour girl come in or at any point I
mean, part of her is that this is a woman who likes to wear
Adam Curry: I thought she was the hottie hottie on the on the
John C Dvorak: braid there but she was never the glamour girl
that Auntie at any point
Adam Curry: she's the Yoko of the Royals man. Come on. Wait
John C Dvorak: a minute. Just the clip before this. She's
going on about she was a hottie and she was the queen of the
dead, retired anybody gotten married anybody? Blah, blah,
blah. And now she's never been anything but. But a Rottweiler
or whatever that was. I
Adam Curry: can't believe we're doing a whole segment on this.
John C Dvorak: It's just deconstruction of NPR. Yeah,
that's
Adam Curry: a good point. They did anyway, onward that you know
what? Elon Musk is right. They don't deserve to have the
John C Dvorak: total agreement.
Unknown: And you know, she was not a glamour girl. committer at
any point, I mean, part of her appeal. He likes to wear
comfortable shoes that she doesn't like to get funny and
Adam Curry: comfortable shoes because she doesn't like to get
that's hot on the dating scene.
John C Dvorak: Great. She wears comfortable shoes because she
doesn't like to get bunions. Tony that's
Adam Curry: literally in a world where women wear comfortable
shoes. This is horrible.
Unknown: She's because she doesn't like to get bunions you
know she has gardeners hands in the sense that you know, rather
gardeners
Adam Curry: hands test oh my god I've met this chick she's so
hot. She's wearing Crocs and she's got bunions. Gardener
hands, man all like crooked and crap. Oh, I can't wait to bagger
Unknown: you know, she has gotten his hands in the sense of
you know, rather dirty fingernails from her plunging
into amongst the greenery. A real kind of dog walker covered
in dog has you know, she's not a glamour woman.
Wow.
Adam Curry: All right, you know, just because I don't know why I
have this. I have to give this to you just right now.
Unknown: That is wow. Wow.
John C Dvorak: A clip of the day after you're complaining.
Adam Curry: This was this is horrible. Tina Brock. Wow. I all
I can say is wow, I've said it too many times already. Man,
John C Dvorak: it's unbelievable. I know this. So
here we go with the UG clip. This is a clip for
Unknown: and unfortunately for her or you know, people knew
nothing really about her because she was so very, very private.
Her friends knew she was this extraordinary, attractive and
appealing woman but you know, in terms of the public feeling
about her, they saw her through Diana's eyes which was usurper
and she had to have that stigma and the press went after her was
such viciousness. I mean, the really appalling sexist comments
about Kamala, I mean, they used to call her, you know, Baghel
trout. You know.
Adam Curry: I've never heard old trout. I think that's a winner
show title
Unknown: spaciousness. I mean, the really appalling sexist
comments about Kamala, I mean, they used to call her you know,
Baghel trout,
Adam Curry: which were I mean, she called her lady with
gardener hands a dog lady, by the way. How can old trout be
bad? Passes? This is NPR man. Crazy press
Unknown: Control. NAFTA was such viciousness. I mean, the really
appalling sexist comments about Kamala, I mean, they used to
call her, you know, Baghel trout. You know, I mean, there
was even a dish named after her as haddock, Parker Bowles. I
mean, just the rudest thing had to the point that she used to
joke to Charles and assign her letter to him. You're devoted
old bag, Camilla. Because she'd been called it so often.
Sounds like she was a good sport about the abuse. Yes,
she had a great sense of humor that was part of her strength.
So do you think over time
the public has forgiven her and it thinks, look, this is a
legitimate relationship? Is it legitimate love between these
two? And we've time time healed how the public felt about her?
Well, yes, because she's now been a working royal for 20
years actually really want nearly 20 years. I mean, as well
as wife of Charles, there has been an acceptance, I mean, in
some ways, because Charles now becomes king so late, and she's
a woman of 75. After all, she has now become sort of the
nation's grandmother and is sort of on her way to becoming sort
of a national treasure. So having kind of getting the
reward, as it were so late has really been beneficial to her
because earlier, I don't think the public would have accepted
it. But they're beginning to see that she's a very hardworking,
very gracious, humorous, unpretentious woman actually,
who has definitely improved Charles's life and has really
transformed him into being an unapologetically happy man.
Adam Curry: Oh, he looks so happy, doesn't he?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Now you all should
Adam Curry: be ashamed of themselves. don't donate to NPR.
John C Dvorak: Know give us the money Yeah, really. So so I get
this last clip and like I say, Keep listening to this thinking
there's got to be some things someone some talent some what
happened here, why am I listening to Tina Brown, doing
shtick and then also trying to be so complimentary in some sort
of a propagandist ik way? There must be a rationale. There must
be something something Ah, here it comes and clip five see if
you can find it.
Unknown: In Prince Harry's very popular recent memoir. He was
very critical of her and I suppose like any blended family,
let's call it the Windsors have some complicated relationship.
Is
Adam Curry: that a racist comment blended family is that
because the Harry did not catch that? Is that is that like
people of color? Is that what they mean? blended? Interesting
and catch let's just call it blended
Unknown: racist in Prince Harry's very popular recent
memoir. He was very critical of her and I suppose like any
blended family, let's call it the Windsors have some
complicated relationships to navigate. But he accused her of
feeding the press and negative stories about him so she could
get better Press Is that likely to contaminate how Brits feel
about her?
Well, I think there was a period when Charles to really
rehabilitate both his own image and that of Camilla after the
death of Diana hired a quite resourceful, shall we say
sophisticated press secretary who was all about making her
reputation better and making Charles's reputation but Harry
felt strongly that he and William was sometimes thrown
under the bus for the sake of their father. And for Camila's
PR, you know, I think that Harry also does very much see that
through the furious, you know lens of being the son of you
know the beloved Diana, his wonderful mother. The only real
misery in her life was this figure, Camilla so it's not
really unlikely that Harry would feel so strongly about it
because all his life he was raised to think of her as the
enemy.
John C Dvorak: The PR woman, then talented PR woman is still
working for them. And Tina Brown was to it. I guess she had to
mention it
Unknown: because she has her friends with her she's friends.
And so she
John C Dvorak: mentioned it and you next thing I'm thinking oh,
this whole thing is a setup. The PR woman arranged it this is
just a hagiography kind of things. You probably pay Tina
straight from the Royal budget. Yeah, who knows? Well, it is a
scam
Adam Curry: and I think NPR jumped on it because they want
some of that Harry and Megan juice. You know, because that's
been very successful. It's been very profitable. There Netflix
show has been you know, that was one of the top viewed Netflix
shows ever. Yeah, so they're just going for some cheap ass
ratings. With a with a cheap couple in a cheap ass coach is
cheap, cheap ass. It's just cheap has been big, cheap ass
thing. All right, I gotta lighten the mood here for a
second. I need to tell you a little story. That was pretty
light. I know but I'm gonna go light into heavier stuff but
through a through a more modern a modern conflict so the old
rockers are still out and about. And Gene Simmons, I don't know
what he's doing. But he was he was like, Hey, if you don't get
the COVID shot you should die. So gene gene was a dick but Paul
Stanley of Kiss he's the guitar player key is you know did
something very controversial. Now these guys are all have a
Stanley's gotta be almost 70 These guys are all up there. And
I know them all and they're interesting dudes you but you
know, they're still playing the you know, the Connecticut fair
or whatever the kids probably does is concealed draw big
audiences. And he posted about trans Maoism. Doors we call
that's what we call it, but in general is about transgender
children, you know about gender affirming care. We've talked
about this. He says my thoughts on what I'm seeing. There's a
big difference between teaching acceptance and normalizing and
even encouraging participation and a lifestyle that confuses
young children into questioning their sexual identification, as
though some sort of game and then the parents in some cases
allow it. There are individuals who as adults may decide
reassignment is their needed choice. But turning this into a
game or parents normalizing it as some sort of natural
alternative. Or believing that because little boy likes to play
dress up in his sister clothes or a girl in her brother's we
should lead them steps further down a path that's far from the
innocence of what they are doing. With many children who
have no real sense of sexuality or sexual experience caught up
in the fun of using pronouns and seeing what they identify as
some adults mistakenly confuse teaching acceptance with
normalizing and encouraging a situation that has been a
struggle for those truly affected and if turned into a
sad and dangerous fad. Well, slow clap Tiffany pen tap for
Paul Stanley. This is good, right? So yes, okay, Paul, you
know, of course, you know, it's just a tweet now. Oh, the world
comes to an end. Oh, no. Oh, boy. Paul Stanley, what does he
say now? Parallel to this a few weeks ago, I didn't mention on
the show because D Schneider is a drip. Then on D Snyder is the
lead singer of Twisted Sister that pretty much only had one
hit. We're not going to take it and and I'm sure that he wrote
it. I don't know who else I should have checked out who else
wrote the song. But when you have a song like that, you can
do you get your royalties and you know, the the song is played
over and over and over again. It's played in venues it's
played all over the world. It's played as an anthem for all
kinds of stuff. It's it's one of those pits that you could it's
like like writing White Christmas almost. The money just
always comes in a you can always dress up with the eye makeup.
Get your get your glam on get your high heels on because
that's what Twisted Sister was you know the name Twisted
Sister. And you can always just do gigs you can because all you
have to do is have 10 songs. five songs a do we're not going
to take it three times. And that's our show. Good night,
Connecticut. And I'm happy that you remember. This must have
been 2010 2011 Maybe Yeah. Howard Stern interviewed me for
Sirius X Sam, and I made a pitch to Howard Stern. I said, Hey,
you know, I'm authorized, which I wasn't. But we knew we could
get the money. I said, But I'm offered to offer you Howard
Stern $100 million to leave Syria, I think is his contract
was up for renegotiation renegotiation to leave Sirius
XM, be come over to pod show, and we'll make a podcasting star
out if you remember this.
John C Dvorak: I do remember this. Yeah.
Adam Curry: In fact, we had a big argument after this
interview, because you said it was a horrible interview. And
they didn't mention Oh, my God, we had a real argue I was really
John C Dvorak: well, yeah, you got all bent out of shape. When
it was my commentary, you said
Adam Curry: that it was it was a horrible interview. And I did
not mention no agenda once and I was bad. And I will
John C Dvorak: say to me, yes. Not mentioning no agenda is a
horrible interview period.
Adam Curry: Right. But it was the first moment that that you
really hurt me. And then I said some really hurtful things to
you. And it was it was not a great moment for Adam. But also
you were total dick. So and but then after that I am a total
dead. That's just what I realized. That was the moment
I'm like, Oh, okay.
John C Dvorak: No, go on. Okay.
Adam Curry: Kara. Tito's even doing this now. Anyway, so like
a week later, D Snyder calls me. Hey, Adam. Hey, man. Wow. You
know, it's great. By here. John, was Howard and Howard bibble of
the Howard. And Sal does podcasting. Like God I could
tell me about. So I say yeah, man. Do we have this value for
value model? Yeah, but what about the money? Can you pay me
to do a podcast? I'm a great podcaster I can be really good.
When I'm on Howard. I'm killing it. I always kill it. And who is
this? Dee Snider from Twisted Sister. Delete guy, the glam guy
the you know the glamour guy. Yeah, and he's calling me and
he's like, he just he smells money. He's a he's a money
whore. Hey, man. Oh yeah, I'm always on Howard but I'm I kill
what I'm I can do a better job than how I can do great show
better than Howard. Howard Howard. Howard. Howard. I'm
always on Howard. Howard loves me. I'm great that I said no.
You know, just for Howard the money you're not Howard doll.
Come on, come on,
John C Dvorak: Howard. And so it was really if you're not Howard.
That's what I said. Yeah, well, that's what you Yeah, well, it's
like,
Adam Curry: well, it anyway, I was I was like Dee Snider is a
dick is what I thought. That's what I recall from this
conversation, but a dick. So a few weeks ago, when more of the
oh, here comes a euphemism, or not even a euphemism, anti trans
legislation. Meaning Tennessee doesn't want kids to be at drag
shows in public places, you know, minors now it seems like a
normal idea. But that is now anti trans legislation. They
want to get rid of us. They want to wipe us from the earth like
the Jews. They did doing the same thing to us they did to the
gays. This is all over the news. And he comes out and he says,
you know, this is crazy, this anti trans legislation because I
can't even do my show in Tennessee because it can be seen
as a drag show because you know, he dresses up puts on the purple
eyeshadow. Fingernails painted. He's got the high heels on it.
You know, he has one song. It's like watching the freak show is
like Okay, so he's trying to he's trying to jump because this
is what he is. Hey, man. I'm as good as Howard. Hey, man, I'm as
good as all the trends shows. I'll be great at a drag show.
I'm great.
John C Dvorak: God,
Adam Curry: you're so you understand. You're like this
Unknown: guy. No, I
Adam Curry: don't. But you made it clear. But you understand
what he's doing is he's trying. He's trying to set himself up
with a popular with the popular movement. Jumping on the band is
called bandwagon bag bandwagon. Now remember, he has
John C Dvorak: the other the other guy that you mentioned
earlier that had the commentary on Twitter, when he finished it
off by saying it's a fad of this fad thing? And I think that's
correct. I think this is a fad and they will come and go.
Adam Curry: Which is exactly why a D Schneider jumps on the fad.
Like oh, oh is a fad. I can get in on by the way. I've got a
great song for the trans community. We're not gonna take
it. I would like to say one of the best glam rock songs ever no
doubt about it. Great song. was now 40 years of children have
used this as their rebellion song. Nothing wrong with that,
but that's what you got, bro. That's all you got. And now
you're jumping on on the trans band the trans fat bank
bandwagon. But then all the kid all the rock guys are going Hey,
hey, Dee Snider? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're not on board
with that. We're gonna Bud Light your ass man. We don't like
this. No. No, you just you could have that song, we'll go we'll
rock out to you. But we don't we're not on board with the
trans stuff. Not the way it's being portrayed. So he then
idiot, he, oh, I've got to adjust everything. Um, what am I
gonna do? So he then tweets something to Paul Stanley. And
this is now the subject of some great controversy. This is local
news from San Francisco.
Unknown: San Francisco pride is distancing itself from twisted
sisters D Snyder, after the singer defended anti trans
tweets made by former kissing or Paul Stanley.
Adam Curry: I love that this report, by the way is going to
be my evergreen, nothing like this effeminate gay guy doing
this report about these two old rock guys, and this is this is
peak trans bullshit.
Unknown: This is a bit confusing, but let me start with
Stanley's tweet, which was sent on Sunday, and in a nutshell, It
criticizes parents who accept their children who are
questioning their gender identities. So here's what
happened with Schneider. Schneider saw this tweet
retweeted it and added this. You know what, there was a time
where I felt pretty too glad my parents didn't jump to any rash
conclusions. Well said Paul Stanley.
Adam Curry: So are you still with me? You still wouldn't know
what's going on here. And this saga
John C Dvorak: was getting funny. So
Adam Curry: show now so now pride San Francisco is mad.
They're mad. And there's a reason for it. It was all secret
we didn't know this was happening behind the scenes. But
Indy Snyder's infinite wisdom and his never ending quest to
jump on the latest fad, whether it's podcasting or pro trans or
anti trans pee now screwed up so bad that the Trans Pride
community is mad.
Unknown: And here's where pride comes into this conversation.
Pride had been set to announce Twisted Sister song we're not
going to take it as the official NFM of pride 2023
Adam Curry: So this is money in the bank for D to have the whole
pride community adopting we're not going to take it this would
blow life into that song. This is another $100,000 A year Easy.
Easy because he wrote it he owns it this is his This is his his
moneymaker shake that moneymaker. But he pissed off
the wrong people.
Unknown: The wrong people.
Joining us now with the latest on this saga is Suzanne for the
executive director of SF pride. Hi, Susan.
Adam Curry: I ready for Suzanne. No.
Unknown: Good morning, Reggie.
So you all disclosure here. You are ready to roll out with the
Snyder interviews with the media. It was under embargo. But
in a few days, you are going to announce this partnership with D
Schneider and with this song. So what was your reaction when you
saw this tweet?
Adam Curry: So I'm just gonna be brutally honest here. Just
because you don't have video. This is this is me. He may have
transitioned fully, but this is a dude. Sharon, Rachel, whatever
his name is, and any of the mannerisms. It's not just it's a
dude. It could be in Twisted Sister. So the whole thing is
just blow my mind now. But the business of it is this really
has screw Dee Snider has screwed himself so badly with this.
Unknown: I was made me sick. I mean, we were just I mean, we
were on the cusp of making this announcement on D. Schneider was
going to appear on the mainstage at SF pride and he was going to
be in the in the parade as a celebrity Grand Marshal. And of
course we cannot. We cannot stand by his statements. We have
to stand up and say that was wrong and we can't be had to end
our association with him.
How did this begin to do Schneider approach you and pride
and offer the song?
Well, we'd been looking for a way to stand up to all this hate
out in the country, the anti trans legislation, the anti
queer legislation
Adam Curry: and anti queer legislation. This is new.
John C Dvorak: What specific anti queer knowledge?
Adam Curry: I don't even know what what it is. We can't even
define what is it? I don't know. I don't know. It's I don't know.
Unknown: Well, we've been looking for a way to stand up to
all this hate out in the country, the anti trans
legislation, the anti queer legislation, and we were looking
for a slogan and our PR team, I said, this is what we need to
say. And they said, Well, why don't we just say we're not
going to take it and that started the process. And we did
reach out to their people. And D was great. He called me and
said, Hey, you can use this song. That's what this song
should stand for. And then of course, he preempted that with
his statements supporting Paul Stanley.
Have you talked to D since this tweet came out?
I did. I had a painful discussion. sitting with him
yesterday and fall. I think he realizes that he was wrong. He
thought he was taking a moderate stance when it when it comes to
self identification for trans people. There's no moderate
stance we need to believe our trans kids when they tell us
about their gender.
Adam Curry: Oh, there it is. We need to believe our trans kids
when they tell us about our gender. Okay, let's hear from
one of the trans kids Katie Lennon. And Katie Lennon tells
her story.
Unknown: It's like many children and teens today I identified
myself as transgender for years. And when I started to feel
confused and ashamed about my developing body, I asked
everyone in my life to call me by a new name, and use male
pronouns to refer to me. So in other words, I went through a
social transition from female to male, everyone in my life
immediately affirmed my new identity either out of full
support for it or just to stay neutral and not cause any
issues. But the constant affirmation both active and
passive, solidified me and my transgender identity, no one
meant to lock me into an identity that would later leave
me broken or shamed and more confused than before. They were
really all just being nice. But the social transition eventually
wasn't enough. And I soon felt I needed to take testosterone. And
when that wasn't enough, I had a double mastectomy. And when that
still wasn't enough, I had a total hysterectomy, including
the removal of my uterus, cervix, fallopian tubes and both
ovaries. There's no point of contentment during a gender
transition. We get fleeting moments of euphoria, but
ultimately one step leads straight into the next. And I
thought that in the end, I could really become a man but all I
became was a mutilated and abused version of my old self.
social transition is a big deal. And we're lying when we say that
any of this is reversible. This is a big decision with lifelong
consequences. And New Hampshire doesn't even require that
parents be involved. If the roles of mother and father don't
include authority over the emotional, social and physical
future of their children, the roles no longer mean anything.
Like me, transgender, identifying youth have a high
risk for depression. The Trevor Project, which is an LGBT
advocacy group, reports that 45% of LGBT teens have seriously
considered attempting suicide in the past year. More than half of
that number is transgender, identifying youth, teachers and
school administrators are mandated reporters, if a child
is suspected to be four times more likely to attempt suicide
than the other students his age, his parents have a right to
know.
Adam Curry: So this is all coming from the schools. We've
discussed this. And there's a slogan that I learned the other
day when the campus when the world, that's what's going on
here. And even even Bill Maher is now seeing this for what it
is what we identified correctly, when we first went down this
road of what is happening with transgender activism and removal
of parents rights, allowing children to be literally
captured. I have just story makers that captured by the
state captured by the law. I'll read a little bit of this, one
of our producers. He's from Colorado, I think you you
probably saw this note as well. I've been below the radar for
past three plus years because I've been living the COVID Trans
Maoist nightmare with my daughter, I don't even know
where to start. And if I did, my note will be too long for you to
even read and you guys know how much I can write. And my efforts
to save my daughter and kids like her. I've been exposed to
human trafficking, illegal drug dealers, mental health
institutions, social services, law enforcement, district
attorneys, politicians, all the way to Governor's School
Administrators, mental health and professionals and doctors
and psychiatrists, I can truly say all these groups with the
exception of law enforcement are in on the CO opting our kids
from their parents. Some are useful idiots for the
politicians and bureaucrats pushing their mouse agenda, but
it's the ones that are aware of what they're doing that are
truly despicable. So I'm gonna go to his quick list here. That
explains the process that happened to his daughter who was
able to save but it's it's a horrible story. I put it on the
show notes. I've taken out everybody's names and these
notes. Here's here's the process that he calls legalizing state
sponsored genital mutilation. One higher radical teachers for
indoctrination, reduce age of Colorado, reduce age of consent
for medical care, like abortions to 15 without parental consent.
allow children to consent for medical care at 12. Without
parent knowledge or consent passed laws requiring state
employees including teachers to use any bizarre pronoun, offer
medical and mental health care in schools without parental
consent. Governor encourages kids to inject mRNA poison in
their bodies without parental consent, require mental health
assessment for kids 12 and older, overriding parental
objections and not informing parents of any care after birth
abortions for kids as young as 12 without parental consent also
come to Colorado and will abort your baby genital mutilation and
puberty blockers for kids without parental consent in
violation of a UN resolution. exposing yourself to a minor is
now just a ticket not passed yet is lowering the age of consent
for sexual contact to 11 including with adults yes Pete
of pedophilia that he goes on and on And on on. And he he
saved his daughter, but it's a harrowing, harrowing story. And
I'm just getting, again, email after email from parents and no
agenda nation who have been exposed to this and are trying
to protect their kids. So what is it on one hand? Yes, it is
exactly what we've discussed. The Bill Maher said, which is
Maoism.
Unknown: Yesterday, I asked chat and GPT Are there any
similarities between today's woke revolution and Chairman
Mao's cultural revolution of the 1960s? And it wrote back how
long do you have? Because, again, in China, we saw how a
revolutionary thought he could do a page one rewrite of humans
now ordered his citizens to throw off the four olds, old
thinking old culture, old customs and old habits. So your
whole life went in the garbage overnight, no biggie. And those
who resisted, were attacked by an army of purifiers called the
Red Guard who went around the country putting dunce caps on
people. Yeah, who didn't take to being a new kind of mortal
being. A lot of pointing and shaming went on. Oh, and about a
million dead. And the only way to survive was to plead insanity
for the crime of being insufficiently radical then
apologize and thank the state and of course submit to re
education or as we call it here in America freshman orientation.
Adam Curry: So even Bill Maher sees what's going on? And yes,
it is. It is to a great degree political as our parent their
points out that the politicians anything, anything to make the
Republicans look the worst. Anything call them Christian.
Was it. Christian radicals? No, not radicals? No, it was not
fascist, Christian fascist. No anti trans legislation. They
hate children, because this is gender affirming care. Well, you
just heard from that young girl what gender affirming care is,
but now we go to Dr. Meg Meeker 's podcast just to you one clip
from from her. And she is talking to Irene Erickson. And
this is, as she asked a question, which I think is a
pretty good one. Why is this really happening in America? As
we know, this is being stopped in other countries,
specifically, the countries where it started, which was the
Netherlands but Sweden, France, the UK? So what is going on? Why
is this happening to this degree in the United States,
Unknown: honestly, and truly, I've been practicing for 30 some
years. And I think maybe in 25 years, I saw one genuine
transgender child, but something happened in the US and there was
an explosion, and we'll talk about that a little bit later.
Why does the US approach it differently than other
countries?
That's a great question. It's a great question.
Adam Curry: And in fact, may actually be the only great
question that
Unknown: is political is my observation. It's not based on
the on the science, in fact that you know that the United Kingdom
had the largest pediatric gender clinic in the world, the
Tavistock clinic, and they commissioned an independent
review of the research evidence about this kind of protocol that
I just described, and what were the effects? And what was the
evidence, how good was the research evidence in terms of
quality, and based on their review, just in the last two
months, they have done a 180 degree, turn around, they've
closed that clinic, and they have said, we do not recommend
this is the National Health Service in Great Britain, we do
not recommend social transition for children and we are not
going to prescribe puberty blockers or cross sex hormones,
or surgery for minors, unless they are part of a study we have
approved that is set up to evaluate the effects. And this
same kind of a cautionary approach is seen in Sweden. Just
to quote you what the Swedish National Board of Health says,
For adolescents the risks of puberty suppressing treatment
and gender affirming hormonal treatments are currently
outweigh the possible benefits based on continued lack of
reliable scientific evidence concerning the efficacy and the
safety of both treatments. So the US is really out of step now
with what's happening internationally. And, you know,
it does beg the question of why.
Adam Curry: So she says it's political. And of course it is.
But it's the schools where this is all starting. And I took a
deep dive because I want to know about the studies because
everywhere I read from the New York Times, via gender affirming
medical care has been proven, proven to be very beneficial. So
I found an article from Psychology Today because it is
the therapist, it's the therapists who are reeling these
children in, if they don't care therapist, and this is it. This
is from the New York Times pointed to from the New York
Times as the evidence for trans youth gender affirming medical
care. Research suggests gender affirming medical care results
in better mental health 16 studies to date have been
examined the examining the impact of gender affirming
medical care for transgender youth, existing evidence
suggests that gender affirming medical care results in
favorable mental health outcomes. All all major medical
organizations oppose legislation that would ban gender affirming
medical care for chant transgender adolescence. John,
every single one of these studies, is from 2020. Every
single one, and all of them with 55 people, 60 people, they're
all from 2020, all during the lockdown, not a single one. Has
any has been studied anything earlier than 2020. This and with
this, they say Oh, well, but you know, that's enough. One will
notice this article says there have not been any randomized
controlled trials. Oh, but it still sounds like it's a valid
trial. There's a general consensus in the field that such
a trial would be unethical given the body of literature we have
so far indicating that those in the control group will be likely
to suffer adverse mental health outcomes compared to those
randomized to the treatment groups. For this reason, it
appears that no institutional review board would approve a
randomized controlled trial at this time, under the principle
of equipoise equipoise to which some bioethicists refer. I don't
know what that all means, but it seems to me like these trials
are bull. In summary, I'd
John C Dvorak: have to look at the trials and who paid for him
to get a real handle on it, I believe.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes, I did not I did not go that deep. But if
you look at the the synopsis here a lot of them are Dutch
puberty suppression and adolescents with gender identity
disorder as prospect follow up study, Journal of Sexual
Medicine, okay, by on what that is. Young adults, psychological
outcome after puberty, suppression and gender
reassignment, pediatrics, psycho psychological support, puberty
suppression, and psycho psycho social functioning in
adolescence. It's all Journal of Sexual Medicine. So,
John C Dvorak: you know, but all in is the exact same journal.
There's no outside journals.
Adam Curry: There. Here's the Nordic Journal of Psychiatry,
it's all psychological. They're not. That doesn't seem to even
be medical trials. It's all about the psychology. But that's
what the New York Times points to is proof that this stuff
works. And it's great. So I'm very, very skeptical,
particularly because if not, we've there had been people
transitioning having what used to be called a sex change
operation for decades. But no, none of that seems to be very
important. And then we have the media. We have the media, and I
played I got a great deconstruction from one of our
producers. I want to play this Kara Swisher clip again. Because
you know, she's a lesbian. So you know, she's she's an expert
on all things. And of course, she takes us all to the
political realm as well, just to play replay this from the last
show. And the other thing
Unknown: is, did he just I think underestimated. Florida has a
really robust and wonderful gay community. And they drive a lot
of business. There's, I mean, there's whole parts. I've spent
a lot of time in Key West and the gay community is thriving
there and I just can't at some point the demo and democracy
does kick in here.
One would assume but I'm thinking of the why Mar Republic
where it was a huge Berlin gay community and then they killed
them. So you know, I think it could go a lot of terrible ways,
but I would agree this is dumb. This is so
escalated fast.
Haven't you seen cabaret? Haven't you'd seen it? Every
Berlin stories.
Yeah, you're right. People think it couldn't happen here. I can I
agree.
They can come at you. But I do not think that that's where the
country is in a different way from much. We've have obviously
a much more vibrant democracy, a much more diverse democracy than
they hadn't Weimar Republic, and they had all kinds of economic
issues, postwar, fall kinds of differences, but they can come
at you. When I when I told you they were going to come at 12th
graders, you'd said no, they're not as young kids. And I was
like, no, they're not. It's everybody they're trying to do
trying to win what they lost back. And they will do they will
stop at nothing. They never go away. They're like mold these
people.
Adam Curry: So our producer sends me this short note which I
wanted to share because I think he did a much better job than we
did on deconstructing what this woman said. I'm listening to the
podcast just heard the Swisher Galloway clip and the psychology
of it disturbed me. First of all, she mentioned the gay
community in Weimar, Germany was thriving, and then they killed
them. This is incorrect. The Republic had laws against
homosexuality, but they were rarely enforced, hence the
thriving community. It was the Nazis who killed the gays
shortly after their rise to power, not the why Mr. Republic.
So the comparison to Florida is actually very apt. Since the
thriving community there is not in danger from Florida, but from
the people trying to subvert Florida. Moreover, she then went
on to describe her political opponents by saying they never
go away. They're like mold of these people. That is exactly
the way Hitler talked about his victims. In his books and his
speeches, he always referred to them as an infection or
infestation that needed to be cleansed. This woman is deeply
disturbed and should be surrounded by trained
professionals with butterfly nets before her career in art
fails.
A Jhansi Dvorak protege I'm right had
John C Dvorak: blaming me for everything. So yes, yeah, good
points is it's a that's a good analysis. I agree with it.
Adam Curry: Then I have just a few more follow ups here.
Because, you know, as we pointed out, this also really does come
from during the lockdown when kids were on screens, screen
screen screens. And this is where they got subverted. They
got subverted by social media. And they were they were booked.
Do you think the parents were not feeling good in the
lockdown? No, everyone felt very anxious. And then then they
didn't feel good. And teenage girls already have problems with
feeling good about themselves. And they were subverted by it.
Unknown: Yes, I
John C Dvorak: want to ask you a bit while you're out just before
you do this. Because it comes to mind. A rhetorical question. The
commentary about the kids on screens during the lockdown and
not going to school, not going to school, not going to class,
not socializing. But they're being on the screen all the
time. They're on at home homeschooling, they were getting
their lessons. They were getting the teachers were there. They
were telling him to do this and read this and do that and do
this and that. And it turns out that all you hear now is Oh,
because of that the kids are two years behind. So in other words,
this screen time and all the learning from home and all the
rest of it was useless. Then if that's true, which is seems to
be that's what they're complaining about, then why is
working from home so good, boo. It's not. It can't be not if you
base it on what happened during that lockdown.
Adam Curry: We had. This was last summer, one of the one of
the daughters was visiting and she had some of her friends from
New York. They also were in Austin for some reason. And
these, I think, like three guys, probably two of them two or
three, or maybe all three gay, I don't know. But they were like,
you know, lawyers. Like high end like intellectual jobs, and they
came out and they're hanging out in the pool. And they literally
would set their laptops up because they were working from
home. They set up their laptops, and they had all these little
programs that move the mouse to make it look like they were
working. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Isn't that cool? Oh, yeah, it's very
fun, from time to time to go and just even you know, do a little
something open a document just to make sure that look like
because you know, it's all tracked by it. And we got a note
from Alex Jennison. Want to follow up a couple items at the
school I work at in New York, New York State is ot jeep. Off
the Grid. Families of students must pledge to limit smart
devices, time time spent on them, etc. Many of our students
even high school, this is northern Academy. Many of our
students even high schoolers have zero access to social
media. We are even punishing to limit laptops. pushing to limit
locked laptops in the classroom and return to books and paper.
Check us out at North academy.org. In my five years
here we've had in total, one suicide less than five students
medicated for add ADHD, depression, etc. Zero students
on IEP plans. I don't know what that what is IEP. All students
learn together, look it up, it's probably for special ed, I look
it up, I look at it IEP plans, all students learn together. And
we do not discriminate based on diagnosis or perceived
differences. Zero trans in students, zero trans students.
John C Dvorak: If there's not even come up in class ever. As
far as I know, we've had one student who identified as
homosexual, again accepted but not promoted. The individualized
education plan. There you go. Being doctrine developed to
ensure a child who has a disability identified under the
law and is attending an Elementary Secondary of kids for
this for the disabled kids.
Adam Curry: We are a boarding and day school, send your kids
but really any parents who are interested can reach out to me
on Mastodon and it's breakfasty at no agenda social.com br A br
a HPHECY. Let's help save the 850,000 listeners in their
children. I wholeheartedly believe our schools here in New
York can help change some of these trends. So just so you
know, that by the way, it's probably an Epoch Times NTD
related outfit, because they know how bad it can be. This is
so they have almost none of the issues that we hear of that are
rampant without the screens. This is without the screens. So
we have another email from Mason, I heard the show want to
share my experience around children's screens and phones.
My wife and I have a 20 month old son who has kept almost
entirely screen free no children shows no YouTube, no phones, no
iPads. Only screen use would be when we have a sports game on
but he isn't interested in that 20 month old, we've noticed that
he's less interested in our phones and other toddlers we've
seen perhaps because he doesn't know all the fun things a phone
can have. Having said that he is still interested in our phones,
because we're interested because we're interested in our phones,
he is clearly picking up on it. Quick note on low screen kids,
almost everyone who meets our son comments on his ability to
play creatively with simple toys by himself and his engagement
with us and other adults. It's hard not to use screens as a
crutch with kids and it takes purpose. But there are very real
benefits start showing up almost immediately. And you're come
several weeks ago after seeing him more and more interested in
my phone, I switched to a light phone to the light phone.com and
put my iPhone in a drawer. I did this both to unhook myself from
my device as well as to help my son have a normal life abnormal
by today's standards. The results have been immediate for
both of us, I'm less interested in my phone, and he's not
interested at all, the phone has a black and white E Ink screen
very limited functionality. So there's no draw for me or for
the child, I was anxious to switch at first. But after
getting it up and running, I felt immediately freed from it
all I share this because the light phone might be a good tool
for others and get donation both in curbing their own addictions
to these apps and for allowing older kids to have the ability
to communicate without giving them access to anything online.
So I ordered one, I ordered a low light phone and when it
comes in, I'll do a full review. But I think we've talked about
it before and the OTG days. And I'm thinking if you want to save
your child here, here, here's a list of things that I would like
to suggest you give to your kids. I like phone too, because
you can call you can text and it's not you know, punching in
the number five times it has a little actual keyboard. And
there's no no camera. It does have directions, you can listen
to podcasts, and you can use it as a hotspot. And with that give
your kid a laptop. Teach your kid how to put Linux Mint on it
to the kid has an understanding that you control the device does
not control you. Give your kid a high quality standalone camera.
John, would you like to give any? Any suggestions because you
you always use these cameras?
John C Dvorak: Well any camera from Olympus I'd say would be a
good standalone camera little ones. Or if you want to just you
know bite the bullet and buy a Nikon one of the ones using an
AP SC one of the bigger sensors but a Four Thirds sensor is also
good or full frame but those costs too much. So forget that
just
Adam Curry: a little thing you put in your pocket and you have
the
John C Dvorak: million of these and then
Adam Curry: you take it home then you blowed it onto your
laptop with Linux Mint and you can choose stuff and then
John C Dvorak: apparently it takes a better picture generally
speaking than a phone can Yeah, but it's generally
Adam Curry: you can take pictures but you're not doing
selfies, not doing selfies and you can't get on social media.
Then parents I would recommend you look at an unroll or start
nine home server um so you can give your kid you know, some
some stuff that you know they're gonna have their own little chat
room in there. friends that you can monitor. And if you don't
know what that is go to get umbral.com It's all free, then
you should also give your kid a handheld, two meter ham radio.
And both of you take the test, take the test. I mean those,
take the test, take the test, and you should encourage their
friends to do this so they can talk to each other over
distances. Because $35 for these little things, give them a
library card. Get them a dog and an AR 15 and teach them how to
use it
John C Dvorak: in probably a pocket protector.
Unknown: Yeah, okay, it's fine. You're gonna
John C Dvorak: be a ham. You might as well have one
Adam Curry: I would rather my kid be a nerd than then then any
any alternative, any alternative. And then finally,
know that you have power to stop this insanity. And it is
happening. And it's unbelievable. I didn't think it
would. I didn't think it would happen. But the Bud Light
boycott is making a difference. The numbers are in sales are
down 26% There's a poll done. I'm not big on polls. This is a
Rasmussen poll, which is also of course, like a bright wing right
leaning outfit. But the numbers are clear. That Budweiser and
Bud Light is suffering significantly. They cannot bring
themselves to apologize. I mean, I went out was talking to my
John C Dvorak: buddy stop. This is this is an interesting point.
They can't bring themselves to apologize. They're afraid
they're going to offend someone by apologizing. Yep. We didn't
do anything wrong. Well, that's
Adam Curry: that's that's the worst
Unknown: part.
Adam Curry: They're, you know, they're they're saying well, you
know, it was just one single can that remember we've talked about
this it's the it's the distributors the local
distributors own the business. And these people are mad.
Because they the bars are saying no, no, I'm not on one Bud
Light. We're boycotting them. Tommy, who helped me we lost a
tree during that big storm. He's he comes over with his with his
chainsaw and he's gonna go out and talk with Tom. He's from
Waco. Originally. The N and they Oh, no, I'm not. I'm not
drinking Bud Light. says you know what else I'm not doing?
I'm not I'm not buying Nike shoes anymore. And Tommy is 63
Amy has his helper Ryan he's 28 and Ryan's out nope, nope, nope.
Nope. Not doing it.
John C Dvorak: Were they Bud Light drinkers before
Adam Curry: they were but what they were they would drink
Budweiser I don't know if they drank Bud Light but they're
boycotting all Budweiser products and all I know is
Anheuser Busch products in general and they know it they
know exactly what beers are under the InBev brand and the
nope know what screw those guys and they're taking and they're
taking a stand and it's working is working and this and what's
happening is now the marketing community they are freaking out
because influencers that was the business oh yeah influencers wow
they're all over Tik Tok. They're all over Instagram
they're Oh, he has his how we get our word out but all and
that's why they gave this stupid Dylan Mulvaney Yeah, his own can
he could tout that
Unknown: you blow your nose.
Adam Curry: And, and now all of these marketing departments can
be like holy crap, because you know the VP of Marketing at bud
got fired. She's on leave now she got fired, then it was not
it was not even the Denon Mulvaney thing so much. It was
the well, it's a tired old arrogance. ratty brand. Yeah,
the
John C Dvorak: arrogance, the arrogance of it, then marketing
arrogance is the worst, the
Adam Curry: incredible arrogance of it all. And so keep it up
boycott. This is this is the American power. And I don't know
if Anheuser Busch can recover. Because this is this is
sticking. This is sticking and Coors and other brands that are
non InBev are mysteriously going up. It's really going up now. So
with all this, of course, you know, what do you do about all
what I mean? It's social media is the problem. screen phones
are the problem. There's there's an article Gen Z years are
snapping up flip phones, Wall Street Journal. You know, I
don't know, you know, we've seen these trends before, but some of
the kids are like, I'm sick of this stuff. So, you know, it
also is too expensive. The dumb phones, the light phone 299
Seems like a good deal. I'll do a review of that. But you know,
what I think ultimately, parents need to take responsibility,
just as this email said, they're the ones who are hooked on their
phones. You've got to get off your phone, you've got to get a
light phone. You've got to change your ways because your
kids are seeing it. And you need to be aware of what they're
doing. Be aware of the social media network. So that's why
don't give them a phone for it. Let them do it at home on the
laptops, you can look along. You look over their shoulder. Kids
are always gonna do weird stuff they don't know about but you
have to be more involved. You can't just say, No, I don't
understand what you're doing scrolling on about tick tock,
you morons. And of course, I read our legislators. They have
all these dumb ideas, which will now be arguing about forever
Unknown: a showdown over social media for kids. As the US
Federal Trade Commission accuses Mehta parent company of Facebook
and Instagram of misusing the personal data of its youngest
users.
Facebook has repeatedly violated its privacy promises, the
company's recklessness has put young users at risk, and
Facebook needs to answer for its failures.
In 2019, Facebook agreed to pay a $5 billion civil penalty over
data privacy practices in the wake of the Cambridge analytical
scandal. The FTC though says the company has not lived up to its
commitments in that settlement, alleging that children under 13
are still able to chat with parentally unapproved contacts,
and that the company is still passing private data to unused
third party apps. It's proposed sanctions include a total ban on
meta monetizing the data of under eight teams a pause on the
launch of new products pending compliance review and limits on
the use of facial recognition technology. Meanwhile, a
bipartisan group of US Senators is calling for a total ban on
social media for kids 12 And under
the technology industry is going to find all sorts of innovative
ways to try to squash this bill because you know, this is their
this is their profit center our kids and promoting really
dangerous content often to our kids,
medicines. The FTC is latest move is a political stunt
accusing the regulator of overstepping its authority the
company has 30 days to formally respond
Adam Curry: and the reason why none of this works now this will
happen and why why social networks and social media is
always going to be around is because the lib Jo's love it.
The liberal journalists love all journalist probably but the lib
Jo's of the worst though we live and we're not Ill screw Ilan,
we're going to mess it down. And then there were a mastodon like,
well, we don't we kneel. It's not exactly the way we like it.
And we can't find people and we can't count all of our our views
and our likes. And here we go to the rescue. Jack Dorsey releases
blue sky Have you been following blue sky?
John C Dvorak: I've only heard about it. So by God, a blue sky
Adam Curry: invites. Thank you very much one of our producers
gave that to me. And I'll just give you the technical
background because this is not discussed blue sky, the idea of
blue skies it kind of works like Mastodon, where you have your
identity or like nostril as well. You have your identity and
that is yours. And you can use this day to check into different
neighborhoods or different servers, but you can be
federated across the entire platform. So not a single
reporters reporting on what it actually is. But what they did
is all Oh, this is great. This is like Twitter without Elon has
got an invite. Invite. Invite the 11 Invite. Oh, Jake Tapper
is on there. Oh, yeah. AOC is on that. Oh, yes. This is great.
Oh, it's an outlet everybody show her boobs. Okay, everybody
show your butt. Okay, the trans movement is here. And all the
lib Jo's love it you know why? Because you can quote tweet.
There all the whole platform is one lib Joe.
Unknown: smorgasbord. And so they're they're
Adam Curry: abandoning Mastodon as quick as they can. Trying to
build they're creating their own language. Yes, they're not
tweets. They're Skeets but they're not tweets. They're
Skeets you know, blue sky ski.
John C Dvorak: They're actually Daxing calling him skeet. Yes,
yes, I
Unknown: know. I know.
John C Dvorak: Holy moly.
Adam Curry: So I can just I can I have to I have to give you one
of my code. You must you have to witness it. This is better than
the secret Mastodon server we have. It is they are so insane.
And so they're all going to flock to this. This is the new
Oh, this is the new thing. It's much better than the land
Twitter. Jake Tapper. Skeets the AI has such a weird take on my
face. I mean, everyone is just gushing over how great this is.
And this is the new Twitter. So they're gonna
John C Dvorak: say we'll look into it
Adam Curry: now and I'll give you a give you my give me a
bytecode I only have one more. I'll give you my input and
that's in your it's a big hole. How many invite code up Well you
need moderation oh yeah now there's they're talking about
how they need to moderate so keep keep children away from
from journalists, I would say there's another good keep them
away from journalists keep them away from news in general. You
know what listen to the no agenda show and that'll be good
for him. And you know what? You know what you should teach your
children value for value.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, have them donate.
Adam Curry: With I'd like to thank you for your courage to
say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in chat GPT
ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end,
Mr. John
John C Dvorak: Mr. Adam curry also in the morning, little
ships at sea boots on the ground, feet near subs in the
water all the names. Let's measure them right away
Adam Curry: before they run away. We're late today, we only
have one segment. For reasons which will be obvious, although
we have some longer notes 1914 today. I know that doesn't seem
like a lot. People are abandoning us John
John C Dvorak: gets about 100 higher than usual.
Adam Curry: Oh, really?
John C Dvorak: But yeah, this is not Sunday.
Adam Curry: Oh, it's Thursday. Yeah, of course. I say well,
well, those are the trolls are in the troll room. And you
couldn't find them a troll room.io. Or if you have one of
those brand new podcast apps, you dump on the legacy stuff,
the ones where you know that your favorite podcast just might
go away because someone decided they didn't like it. And they
removed it from Spotify or Apple
John C Dvorak: even you know, even the guys on Spotify are all
saying that everybody says this app does wherever you get your
podcast from. Which was not to interrupt a segment. But I do
have a What's wrong with podcasting bit?
Unknown: Oh, well, let's look well,
Adam Curry: hold on. Let me finish this and I'm gonna play
the clip because that's what the donation segment is for. It's
for interviews with guests. And for for clips.
John C Dvorak: Clips, like this one. Okay, so finish what you
were doing.
Unknown: Yes, era? Yes,
Adam Curry: yes. Yeah, you throw me off my game. When you do that
stuff. Go to podcast apps.com. Grab yourself a modern podcast
app. Now there are a couple that have this troll room feature in
it. It's pod verse, curio caster, podcast addict, podcast
guru with more coming. And you'll be alerted just like, you
know, just like a bad signal and you can pop right in all your
podcasts will be there, including the no agenda Show
podcast, but also the live podcast and more and more
podcasts are doing this. This is the cool thing. You want to be a
part of that for sure. Now, you can also follow us at no agenda
social.com I kicked that guy off iron Iron Hide whatever his name
was. Yeah, guy. Yeah. And now he keeps trying to come in. Evans.
He's pleased to be he's like he's posting all kinds of
horrible things about us.
Unknown: Like what? Like we're
Adam Curry: well we're homophobic. You know, we were
boring. We're old. We're stupid. You know that kind of stuff.
John C Dvorak: Oh gosh, I'm I don't know what to do.
Adam Curry: Well, but he insults people all the time. And the
thing that he overt he look, I don't like kicking people off.
Normally just ignore them or block them but I tried to calm
him down in a private conversation. Then he started
posting all
John C Dvorak: right, you get rid of him. He's no Giza. No
good, Nick.
Adam Curry: Exactly. No good, Nick. Exactly. By the way, big
shout out to nick the rat. He had what we call a great get
yesterday. A great get, which is a great guest. Did you hear the
guest he had? Yeah, my wife. Yes. Mimi Dvorak. Did you get
your book? Not only do we get the book, we love our book, too
many eggs too many eggs.com. And we will be discussing it. I'm
carrying the keeper. Because there's no good there's been an
egg controversy in the family for a long time. And we and we
have as it solves by the book. Yes, it is all by the book. I
don't know if I'm happy with it. But yeah, it's off the books.
John C Dvorak: So what didn't go your way? to controvert
controversial.
Adam Curry: It's big. It's a big ass book. What does that thing
cost? If you buy the book? I know you can download the PDF
for free
John C Dvorak: because $48 I think is that's a that's a good
value. Yeah, it's actually we're under pricing. It's kind of like
we're also giving away a free PDF. Yeah. And so I mean, we're
in it to to lose money. So people should take advantage
sounds like a podcast. I like your eggs.com and get a free PDF
copy of
Adam Curry: quality of this book. And the hardcover is like
a Tashan book.
John C Dvorak: You know what I mean? Like more than you don't
want to touch him book is No, I don't know what No, no dough is
a term.
Adam Curry: Tasha is a publisher and they do these beautiful
coffee table books big size with a hardcover. I know it's a it's
not like it doesn't look like a self published book. See crap is
nice. And then it looks it looks beautiful rose. Yeah, it looks
beautiful.
John C Dvorak: We know how to do this this work.
Adam Curry: Look, if you want to interrupt me, I'm trying to hype
the book up. No,
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. Keep going. What am I doing? I'm an
idiot.
Adam Curry: And I also would like everyone to, to pray for
our clip custodian son, Seamus, who had to go in for emergency
chemo. It's really shitty. So we want prayers for for Seamus,
please.
Unknown: Thank you all very much. Good note. Yes.
John C Dvorak: All right. Oh, he too many A's dot com. Just check
it out and get a free copy.
Adam Curry: Great book. It's a great book. Well, there you go.
There's our business model. Yeah, we just need to make
products.
John C Dvorak: This product is high quality. Things take care
of themselves. Yes, exactly. And listening to one of the podcasts
that are just, which is loaded is one of the spin off podcasts
and it's loaded with with ads for other podcasts. Oh, what
podcast is this? And so this is an ad for Alec Baldwin's
podcast. And I want you to listen to you think this. This
is a guy that's not geared to be a podcaster he can barely read
the simple copy. It just doesn't make any sense. You know, he's
they've tried to put him on TV to be an interviewer and he
thinks he's a really good interviewer. But but just listen
to this.
Unknown: Hey, it's Alec Baldwin, this past season on my podcast.
Here's the thing. I spoke with more actors, musicians,
policymakers, and so many other fascinating people, like actress
and director, Cheryl Hines. They were looking for an unknown
actress to play Larry, David's wife. I said, Well, how old is
that guy? Isn't he? Listen to the new season of here's the
thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you
get your podcasts.
John C Dvorak: This guy's a professional entertainer.
Adam Curry: Yeah, he's he's an NPR like, guy. That's what he
thinks a podcast should be. No. I mean, he's like, I have to
talk like this. I'm Alex Baldwin.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you probably right. Not probably. I
just thought that was the worst promotion for a podcast ever.
Adam Curry: Definitely not great. I wouldn't want to be
promoted. Did you hear that? He got off.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he got off in the officer. They defend him.
Not liable. Yes.
Adam Curry: Thank you. Hey, oh. So we got the follow Adam and
origin social.com Jhansi. Dvorak at no agenda social.com. And as
part of our value for value model, where all we ask you for
is to think deep inside your heart. What kind of value did
you get from this podcast? Can you give something back? Would
you like to return the value? There's a number of things you
can do time talent, treasure, we have people doing amazing work
for us and, and boots on the ground reports is really being
part of the large no agenda community. We also love. The
treasure part is very important. But we have artists who make art
for us. So we can always have a fresh piece of art for every
single show. And it is very beneficial. Very few shows do
this. And people like it. It gets people interested. They see
it on social media or they see it anywhere you get your
podcast. And like what what is this when you click on this and
then other reminded that's no agenda because those guys have a
new piece of art every single time. So we want to thank the
artists for episode 1551. That was our Palindrome show Big Mike
and the rock and the art was from capitalist agenda. Now we
had a hard time selecting a piece of art. This was it was a
great piece. We both liked the piece. In general it was a tank
in a pineapple, which was ITM on it which it really didn't make
any sense unless you heard the show which is what it is
sometimes. But you know we had the pineapple pizza we were
talking about you
John C Dvorak: need the one you liked the most was the piece of
bigotry by correct the record. You were a big fan of as a piece
of pie a piece of pizza that was signed. And I was a fan of
Adam Curry: I was more a fan of Dame Kenny Ben's crushing the
narrative. You didn't like that at all? Oh
John C Dvorak: no. That we had that. I agree you'd like that
one too. So you had those two but I didn't like to crashing
the narrative at all. I just I What was the point of the Fisher
fist bump? I don't know. So
Adam Curry: know what you wanted was the new drug from certain
net Ned.
John C Dvorak: No, I went to coffee for kids for from certain
net net and
Adam Curry: right but we both agreed that there wasn't clear
enough that it was coffee that they had needed to swap
John C Dvorak: some logos that we thought a for example,
Starbucks logos on the coffee even though this promotional I
think at least make the point Yeah,
Unknown: yeah
Adam Curry: Darrell but you liked the new drug because it
had take twice weekly contains part Curry One part Dvorak media
deconstruct you'd like that one.
John C Dvorak: I did like that one but you poo pooed it because
when you don't like art you claim it's unreadable. Yeah. So
Adam Curry: a bone of contention arises once
John C Dvorak: again. So you like your inbox? Let's be
honest, you'd like
Adam Curry: comics for bloggers butts.
Unknown: The Kpop bots Yes you do.
John C Dvorak: I thought that was cute. I thought it was cute
use of some sort of but but then it then a default back was the
one we pick which is media colada. Media colada. That's
what it was. Yes. And because it brought into pineapple, which
was part of the pizza story and it the rest of it, which is
nonsense, but it was a nice piece. It was well done. And so
we picked his quality it was a
Adam Curry: good piece and I see that people have already been
making new pieces for for this show. We
John C Dvorak: I also by the way, I also like to should bring
this up from MC MC gooey. tranny fluid. Yes,
Adam Curry: it was too small.
John C Dvorak: But for the Bud Light was it was a transmission
fluid.
Adam Curry: With Bud Light on it. It's an automatic trans
fluid. It was great. It was
John C Dvorak: it was a great piece but to Canada's oil or
what trend transmission was too small. Yeah, it's really too
small. You eat blowed up. You can't read the automatic
transmission fluid or automatic trans fluid.
Adam Curry: It was a very funny joke.
Unknown: It was very funny.
Adam Curry: It would have been executed. I think it would have
been a winner. People would have thought it was very funny.
John C Dvorak: It is funny. I think it's still funny, but it's
not. It's too dinky. Yeah.
Adam Curry: And now, and now the joke is gone. I don't think we
can do it anymore.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the jokes over ones too old.
Adam Curry: All right, let's thank our executive and
Associate Executive producers for episode 1552 of the best
podcast in the universe. We have a lot of 3333 Dots, 30 threes,
and some longer notes, everybody. But I think in
general, we can just considering we have no nights no title
changes. We have only one meet up report. We can blow through
this in one go instead of doing instead of breaking twice and
still give you some good show for the money. In fact, may I
play something that only people who listen to the donation
segment will hear and all those other people who went away those
losers will be missing out on? Sure. Okay, so we've been we've
been told that we have a lot of fans in aviation. That's
understandable. I am an aviator. And we have air traffic
controllers who are thrown out in the mornings from time to
time, we'd like to add very much in Nashville. We met Steve and
Jessica and they are pretty much the Ken and Barbie of the no
agenda show. He is a pilot for Southwest. She is a flight
attendant for Southwest beautiful. He's seven feet tall.
You know she's got the blond hair and the great people.
Fantastic. He's a knight and and she has a blue. I wrote this
down she has she's an interior designer as well, I think. And
she has. Tina is going to kill me because I wrote down the name
of her shop, though. Anyway,
Unknown: I'll get that in a moment.
Adam Curry: So Steve sends me a note. He says me now. I liked
it. That ATC is you know the guys are throwing it in the
mornings. I haven't heard one yet but when I do I'll be sure
to respond within the morning says for two years, you know
southwest they can they do their own their own little thing.
John C Dvorak: They have a comedy act that they do in a
plane which is which was taken from PSA. Pacific Southwest
Airlines, which is where they stole many of these ideas are
set for the smile that was used to be on the plane. But they do
a comedy act when they tell you to put your seatbelt belt on
it's very complex. Sometimes they actually have a comedian on
the plane doing a long sketch.
Adam Curry: Yes. It's a dog would proper.com is Jessica's
store. So so they have a lot of leeway to do whatever they want
on the public address system. Steve says I've been doing this
that what do you want about to play for you for two years? And
not all my co pilots understand it but it usually results in me
hitting them in the mouth. So imagine you're in southwest This
is the pre takeoff announcement. And he had one of his flight
attendants record this for him. Okay, here we go.
Unknown: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard in the morning
from Paul and Steve up front are your pilots flying you to St.
Louis today. I'll be off the gate and on our way in just a
few more minutes of flying time to St. Louis today one hour and
33 minutes headed to St. Louis at a cruising altitude of 33,000
feet. St. Louis weather last hour reporting mostly sunny
skies looks like the temperature their mid 70s with winds laid on
the north. Getting off the gate and underway shortly. Thanks for
choosing us here at Southwest today. Welcome aboard in the
morning.
Adam Curry: He says he has he has not had had heard in the
morning back yet in two years that he's been doing it.
Unknown: But you gotta love that.
John C Dvorak: That'd be great to be on that plane.
Adam Curry: I'd be right I'd be storming the cockpit. I love
these guys. Alright, let's kick off the donations today with
builder Mike and Eddie stone Eddie stone at Easton,
Pennsylvania 333 dot 33. In the morning this notice to accompany
my donation in commemoration of my birthday my 61st which
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it. I'm also attaching the file for Barnhart. Donation. Barnhart
donation. I first heard Hey, everyone, if you're donating
free 3333 You can have a donation. I like
John C Dvorak: the cash register.
Adam Curry: Yeah, we like it a lot Barnhart donation. I first
heard of no agenda no factual listening to the Barnhart
podcast a few years ago okay. And became a regular listener
after I asked the Barnhart podcast to recommend a source
for news thanks guys. I'm on a recurring donation made a couple
of during that my during the double up Promotions and this is
my first executive producer donation be assured of my
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That's ba r and h AR d t dot biz for you and Jhansi thank you for
your courage. Non time bitcore Ma'am, my heart shall not fear.
Okay, that was nice. Thank you very much thrown in some Latin.
Unknown: You're on the list. You
Adam Curry: got a man Thank you.
John C Dvorak: All right, next is Dennis O'Brien, out of
Brooklyn. And he gets gives us 33333 And I'm going to skip one
of his paragraphs because today's is 33rd birthdays on the
list I've been listening for almost exactly three years as
such it's high time to finally gave me some of your much
deserved V for me. Please do douche me. You've been D deuced.
When he like a jobs Carmen a sampling of Al Sharpton. He says
he doesn't catch every show like he used to but I still try and
listen when I can. It's a rare and precious thing in American
media to he'll hear well informed opinions from smart
guys with interesting life experiences who don't have to
impress anybody or worry about getting sacked for pissing off
the wrong billionaire. This show is special please keep it on. A
final note to my fellow WAPP ease commit these words to
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the powerful are aligned. They'll still call you crazy but
one in 10 might stop and think about it for a minute stay safer
else jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Karma
Unknown: is the measure of wherever the country begins in
the state of Wisconsin, a national drive to push back or
whether we have more to go to build a movement of resistance
but resist we much we must and we will much about that. Be
committed doc
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Adam Curry: classic, classic sharp classic was the classic
corporate legal legal ism Baytown, Texas 333 dot 33 first
timer corporate legal legal from Texas. You have inspired me I
have moderated primary debates for local political
organizations. I'm planning to launch a bid for a district
judge seat the Texas torque wrench for precise application
of law Thank you
John C Dvorak: 333 33 comes from Sir BNA in Nashville, Tennessee.
This
Adam Curry: is our pilot this is our this is our Steve our
Southwest pilot right here.
John C Dvorak: Steve Ben stra sir BNA a he says that note for
three things hey get mo nation Mother's Day is May 14. That's
coming up. And my smokin hot wife Jessica has the perfect
gift box for mom and here we go. Here it is. www dogwood
proper.com. I've been using in the morning on all my welcome
aboard pas and ATC word radio chicks underwear He played one
of them hopefully this trend it will be changing in other words
he wants to hear from some no agenda listeners when he when
you leave the plane you can say something in the morning gives
John trade Kara Swisher then then when a bit go ahead is
spoken shouldn't care a colleague say okay John, rather
than Adam say okay Kara. Sure. Okay, jingles, Bogey bogey and
that's true. Thank you for your courage, Steve. Okay, maybe I
should do the. That's true first. Sounds a little better
that way. Oops. Come on. It's true. Here we go. That's true
Adam Curry: I feel bad should be. It's true. That's true. It's
true.
Unknown: It's true. It's true.
Maybe this one is true. That's Trump.
John C Dvorak: When we lost it we lost it's true.
Adam Curry: I don't know what's going on. Now. He that's not
possible. That's not true.
John C Dvorak: But it's not lost. It's just lost.
Something's gone. How much misplaced thank God here she is
glad we have
Adam Curry: Maynard throne is in Tracy, California. 333 dot 33.
Short and sweet. I'm a driver for a large grocery chain. John
really nailed it when he said we are educating truck drivers
listeners since 2016. That we're educating truck drivers. Comma
listeners since 2016. A donation is long overdue, please deduce
ben de deuced along with a John donate, donate, donate see and
that is this one and peace and love to you both know I'm sorry
Maynard throne Tracy California.
Unknown: This the one you've got
Adam Curry: Dawn karma nice nailed
John C Dvorak: down. Do you have the note because I don't have it
Adam Curry: I do let me go and grab that. There's two notes
which one is this? Christopher
John C Dvorak: I found it Oh, good. Hey, it just Christopher I
pay goals who came in with 33333 Adam sharp mispronouncing his
last name. And he writes Hey, John, and this is Christopher
from Menominee. Mama no money. Money no money, man. No money No
money. No money. No money. No money. No moon if I keep saying
I can't say man no money, no money. I'm gonna enjoy this.
Check. 3333 is good. The show as of late has been lacking in sumo
analysis. Oh, the reason is because the tournaments are
every other month. John was you think of that cure beyond a
carry beyond us. You show when and what is your thoughts on the
main tournament? Is it push Shiro is time? You know,
speculating on who's what Sumo is going to win the tournaments
I've always found to be kind of weird because this is like it's
I don't know how to say it. But it's it's like speculate on
who's gonna win the NASCAR race. And they do it. Oh, I think guy
Thank gosh, also is going to win. No. You never know who's
gonna win. It's just some guy gets lucky and wins a few key
matches. Also, can you say it's scary? My niece? My niece thinks
it's your best catchphrase. No, no, it's a scam scam.
Adam Curry: You gotta say it right.
John C Dvorak: It's a scam. It's let me get it right. It's a
scam. Nice. Stay dangerous. Christopher.
Adam Curry: Thank you. Michael Dorman is in Redmond Washington.
333 in the morning Jen thanks for all you do please accept
some value for value jingle ants in my pants. I think he means
ants, the ants. Classic ants. We'll play a little bit of it.
May I please have some relationship karma hands as I'm
starting off something with a new special lady peace and love
to you both course. A little bit of that for you.
Unknown: Just a little bit of the ants, ants ants. I got ants.
I got ants
you've got karma you
John C Dvorak: Lauren Powell. Pillet Polesworth pelo Palla
Woda Palais WADA political i There's a way of pronouncing
this like not gonna get it I don't know what it is. Hello
Paulo Woda is what it looks like to me but okay, and she's in
Chandler whatever the case, Arizona she comes up with 333
that as did Michael Dorman. How do you bow howdy to you both. As
much as I would love to say no jingle no jiggles. She's got a
year. Yeah. Get No jiggle, no jiggles no karma I can't. I
could I get a foamer trains good plains bad and some goat karma
at the end of the note, let me be brief. I just made this
donation very early in the morning while my smokin hot
boyfriend is asleep. His birthday was an April 29 and I
failed to get him a birthday shout on the Sunday show. So I
had the idea to donate 333 and ask what goes toward the
eventual knighthood of Eric Bradley. But I would like to
executive producer if that's not too much to ask. Good for you.
Good. Yeah, I agree. Anyway, I know he's listening to the live
show. So I guess this is somewhat of a surprise for him.
Happy belated 27th Birthday to you. Harsh gut.
Unknown: Hi hirers golf horse hoof partial partial golf. What
is it? Well, it's German
John C Dvorak: youth 3333 closer to being a night now love you
mean it?
Unknown: Oh my god. On the board trains planes are mine.
Adam Curry: Greg Birch. Oh, there's Greg Birch.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's he's a baron. He's our den Baron Greg
versus the official no agenda dentist dental professional
Adam Curry: from from way up north in Port Angeles,
Washington. $300. Thank you Greg. Birthday may 6 First one
without my father. I'm sorry ma'am. I also understand all too
well. How much Adam surgery cost? Not overboard. Haven't
missed the show. Cheers sir. Birch. Thank you. Thank you sir.
Birch. Nice guy. I still use one. He was the first one that
turned me on to the Sonicare toothbrushes he sent me one
John C Dvorak: and I've been using it ever since he went to
mind blew up I had to buy another one blew up
Adam Curry: like exploded in your face wave Vu up like a
vapor.
John C Dvorak: Sir John and Blaine, Minnesota nuts 299 He
becomes Associate Executive Producer and he says best show
ever last Sunday I believe. Very interesting that Tucker and Dawn
analysis. Don wanted to get a quick donation off before the
deadline and can't wait and can't for the life of me find
what the exact email is for the note. Adam, would you please
tell the listeners out there what the note address is?
Adam Curry: Note notes notes and ote s at no agenda show dotnet
notes at no agenda show dotnet that's notes at no agenda show
dotnet
John C Dvorak: went to the rickety devora.org page which is
being changed as we speak and it still says to send money to
Jonathan or send notes don't remember that but if it did, I
got it. Nice forwarded to Jay we'll put it in his reg not
anonymous, it's
Adam Curry: a donation in the subject line.
John C Dvorak: And it said donation in the subject line
wisely. Yes. So that gets his official voice wherever he goes
on. Keep them coming guys have the greatest Michaud ever did?
No jingles Oh Come on Mr. John of the Dunkirk mudflats,
Adam Curry: Baron of Whistler and Whistler BC I've been to
Whistler. Fantastic that glacier up there California. A Canadian
I'm sorry 244 dot 91 this is 333 Canada Navion That's right. We
have to upgrade him who are upgraded analyst to be upgraded.
We still do that even though your money is getting pretty
pathetic. I mean, it's short. You're short. You're
shortchanging us by like 60 bucks crazy. And our dollar
keeps tanking my annual may 5 birthday dinner a donation John
forgot, so I can't complain about the sink complain about
the Cinco Demayo promo this year. What did you forget?
John C Dvorak: I forgot to plug that tomorrow. Cinco de mio. Oh.
Oh.
Adam Curry: Happy birthday to Theo to Theo's on the list I
guess. No, no. Yeah, yeah, yes, he
John C Dvorak: is. He's on the list. In your
Adam Curry: Theo Theodosia
John C Dvorak: so your Dorthea DeVore IKEA.
Adam Curry: Oh, the adorable How old is the adorable turning?
John C Dvorak: He's going to be six.
Adam Curry: Oh man I used to obey still make them do crazy
stuff. Like what? I know stuff that his mother hates.
John C Dvorak: Oh, well. I mean, if possible. Yeah, of course the
latest just give us a label. I haven't got any latest ones
because you know he's been grumpy and he's not always just
Adam Curry: opportunity. He's a divorce wreck. He's
John C Dvorak: Grumpy. Grumpy kid.
Adam Curry: Happy birthday to see oh thanks for keeping it
real regards Baron of Whistler lose go karma please. And we got
that for you, man. You've got
John C Dvorak: sure Tooth Fairy envelop arrived Valparaiso,
Indiana. Hey, guys, John Irish. If my copy of too many eggs the
other day nice what a wonderful cookbook, please tell me me. I'm
greatly enjoying it and can't wait to try some of the recipes
this weekend. I'll keep you busy. Adam, thank you for
sharing your dental implant experience you're hearing
improved after the infected molars being removed is very
interesting. I've been screening my heart of hearing patients for
undiagnosed sinus infections since I heard your story. Cool.
Thanks for all you do. And Adam, could you please not be so short
with John? What is this? He means well yeah, and I agree
with with wizard Sure. I'm not sure we yeah, good karma for all
please. Tooth Fairy. Oh, wow. I only Wow.
Adam Curry: I would appreciate you letting me know if you've
found any undiagnosed sinus infections than that and I need
to hook you up with Mitch Maverick. My periodontist. We're
going to start a revolution I think all right. Yes, of course
we got Yeah, karma for you. No problem. You've got karma. Those
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vouch for you. We got a couple of meetups to talk about John's
gonna take us through to the 50s right now.
John C Dvorak: Match saying yeah, we do a few people to
thank continue to thank and we start with Matt and St. Clair
images names and amounts. Man St. Clair as Matt in St. Clair,
Michigan 133 dot 33 urbana boulders lol Oh, oh, it's
boulders. Is it really boulders not builders? I don't know. But
anyways, Urbana boulders LLC in Urbana, Illinois, Illinois.
Baron lattic. In in Houston, Texas, John Rowe Benet Parts
Unknown Ron Chambliss is in the Indiana metal metal dog machines
in Rocky Mountain House Alberta
Adam Curry: sent 100 Send us a machine to try one a machine
machine and I want to Boulder
John C Dvorak: boulder be handy. Boulder. You could use one in
your yard. I could Patrick Brandon at sick oh, by the way.
Those are all $100 donors sorry. Patrick brand is 8686 Kevin
McLaughlin is back with 808 Eating out just how many can he
do? Yeah. Gabe defend he's in locust North Carolina. Gabe?
Gabe the Farrior? What's a farm area three or four year? It says
Farrior and it came right off the spreadsheets Brentwood,
California. Farrior 808 y n y n Kartini in Torrington,
Connecticut 7421 Quarry rule in Marion, Iowa 7183 instrument
check or something I'm not sure what he wants. Sarah Hubert in
Mitcham UK sent us a really sweet note on a piece of on a
pig. And she is it's just an interesting note she said I
guess does murals or something she's a she's an itinerant
artist and want to thank her for that but
Adam Curry: why don't you read the note? The trouble of sending
it on a pig?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I have I have it. I have it. You have it.
Why don't you read it in the
Adam Curry: morning John Adam here's my rather late Happy
Birthday John donation you see is important. Yeah, it is for me
7158 58 P That's Pence is for my birthday, which was on the
fourth it's late because I was value for valuing in a remote
rural South African Zozo village. Oh, I've seen I've seen
Sarah's work she sent me a picture of this. I paint murals
and teach local artists in return for accommodation and
meals. Check out the beautiful Bulu lunga lodge pronounced boo
boo Lauren Gula Gula Gula at boom hula hula hula Bulla.
raceless. OUT B ULUNGUL a.co.za for South Africa. In my five
weeks there I unplugged from everything except the best
podcast in the universe. unmissable love slit from hair
Sara Huber Thank you Sarah. Nice note worth it.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she's actually famous Max Wyndham in
spring Texas $68 Hindery? jowling Yeah, Link yada yada
link and haired here to knit. herder herder didn't get that
Ian they're here. Hendricks yeah Lincoln held here.
Unknown: Here to here or die here
John C Dvorak: 5065 56 And he wants to give a shout out to and
Peter Strick Verica in here are
Adam Curry: they doing it just just to get this out of you? You
shouldn't be say love it to be sending more money for that
people. You make him a monkey before him. Come on was just
sending more money. More money.
John C Dvorak: Brian Furley 5510 parts a nosy anonymous in
Liverpool. Oh mercy UK mercy city. 510 Yeah. Arlene's dig.
Gaina in Levittown, New York. I need some karma. You will get
put down at the end there for you. 5446 and I could have the
name wrong di GE na Bob Butler's Nixon coming ga 5069 Mike Vaughn
in Clarkston, Michigan 5036 with a birthday Dame Dame night is
who this is.
Adam Curry: Mike Vaughn also says missed make good from Show
1500 Need some baby making karma? I'll do that for you
Mike. I got the baby making calm we got the special baby making
karma.
John C Dvorak: So on game night and Edmonds Washington is 5015
And now we got the $50 donors. Few of them Clara Thornhill
stopped it starts it off in Toronto dotted mind and dotted
mind and Lincoln shirt UK. Tony laying send us
Adam Curry: send us a dotted mind with a machine we need a
dotted my
John C Dvorak: a couple Tony Lang and Castle Pines, Colorado
Gerrard and Plano in Salem, Oregon. Justin Heiner in vine
Grove Kentucky. Jacob Martinez in El montay California Anna
Drake in Whitestone. Indiana Kurt Patrick in Nanaimo BC on
the island, James sheremeta in Napa Henok, New York, Charles
Peterson Alburquerque Baron of Belmont in Belmont North
Carolina with a with a birthday shout out Brian Watson in
Raleigh, North Carolina Walker Phillips in San Rafael,
California. And last but not least, I Ichi Chittagong Galois
in San Francisco,
Adam Curry: I have one note, one note that came into my PO box
which is always a little confusing, but $160 in cash from
and it's handwritten note pod father hope this note finds you
well in resting post surgery, please find my long overdue
donation. I'm not worthy of any awards or accolades. I kindly
asked for cargo from my smokin hot wife and two human resources
and says cheers, wha foond or Wolfhound, it's kind of hard to
read. And he gave me a cool patch, which looks like some
service some military service that shoots down Chinese
balloons. And try and get that trying to get that to the right
Pio box people because now I have to send I have to send it
to John. It's just It ruins the accounting and it's already
sketched. So we got, we have to keep everything on the up and
up. But thank you very much. We appreciate that. Thank you to
everyone who also came in under $50. That is typically because
you're on what you want. complete anonymity. And there's
one reason for you, but also people on some of these
sustaining donations which are incredibly important,
particularly when when you have one donation segment then those
things really help. We appreciate that. And if you'd
like to learn more, go to the still old page but a new ones in
the works as
Unknown: we speak vora.org/in
And here's the karma
Adam Curry: for everybody who needed I'm adding a goat thank
you all very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe
episode 155 formula is this. We go out for yet people in the
mouth.
Our birthday list includes Sarah Hubert who celebrated April 4.
Lauren pelota wishes her smokin hot boyfriend Eric Bradley
ablated. Happy Birthday turned 27 on April 29. Away Sarah was
April 4. That's an old one. I'm sorry. Mike Vaughn turned 36 on
April 30. We have the Baron of Belmont wishes Comrade John
thrower Happy Birthday that was May 1 builder Mike turning 61
today. Danielle Mackay celebrating today Theodore the
CM dorable Devorah. Tomorrow may 5 Baron of Whistler also
tomorrow may 5. Greg Birch, our dentist up north may 6, and
Dennis O'Brien is 3033 Happy birthday for everybody here the
best podcast in the universe.
Unknown: No one said
Adam Curry: no agenda meetups. I am now I'm going to the Austin
meetup on the 13th I believe Tina is going to be in New York
with her visiting her daughter. That'll be for Mother's Day. So
I'm going to be them bring my buddy Jimmy so looking forward
to everybody at Doc's backyard on the 13th we had a one report
this is the I might be high report their 10th 10th coming
together as a meet up
Unknown: in the morning John and Adam. We had our 10th meet up in
Toronto, Ontario, Canada. In honor of Canada's Bill C 11. We
bring you the I must be Hi meetup records. How many
donators in this room
My name is not Troy I'm really high
in the morning Adam and John from Toronto still a douche bag
so sorry broke musician.
I'm a douche bag get
Adam creed like DM me come up with something in the morning
Bitcoin I could buy weed with it right?
Adam Curry: They actually were high. That's impressive. Not
just not just a slogan those guys mean it. Starting right now
if you're in Brookfield, Illinois, the May the Fourth be
with you meet up is kicking off. That's for Chicago central Irish
Times, pub and restaurant. On Saturday, the Hoosiers Fort
Wayne club 33 weekend dancers meet up one o'clock at house
tavern, a tavern and Coventry in Fort Wayne, Indiana. We have the
secret Chinese spy balloon South Jersey meet up on Saturday at
one o'clock at Miller's Ale House Mount Laurel New Jersey.
Hogan's Heroes meet up in Ohio, Michigan, Ohio, Michigan mixer
one o'clock. Liberty aviation museum that's in Port Clinton,
Ohio. You must RSVP sir Timothy have no fixed title is
organizing that. The Delaplane Virginia new location spook
meetup I guess barrel oak winery and brewery in Delaplane.
Virginia. All right. If you're spooked, you need to be there.
Also on Saturday, the Virginia Maryland West Virginia tri state
data science meet up Madison Village Apartments clubhouse,
the main room in Winchester, Virginia, done to spook meetups
and the making our own mural up at four o'clock New York Time
Cleveland Drafthouse Garner North Carolina. There you go, TJ
the redhead at the bar is organizing hey now and on
Sunday, our next show day the build Snohomish back better.
Snohomish Beck better three o'clock Pacific south to summit
brewing, Snohomish Washington and Lacey Chang is leading lady
three Jane is organizing that we got a lot of meetups all the way
through where I see may otherwise at the end of June
already. You see the Netherlands couple of them he went up to
Amsterdam meet up in Leiden on the Netherlands going insane.
All kinds of meetups this is this is something that you need
in your life. You go to one and you're guaranteed you will go to
another one even when you're vacationing somewhere before you
know but hey there's a meetup you always be checking it go to
Joe agenda meetups.com Look around search around if you
can't find a meetup near you start one is easy and it's
always a party with
Unknown: Bom Bom won't be triggered all you
Adam Curry: say is like It sure is. How are we doing on time?
Oh, man. You know we don't want one donation segment we make
more we do more. Do more podcasts. So
John C Dvorak: a couple of things I wanted to play Do you
have an ISO? I do have an ISO I have well how many do you have?
I appear to have for for some reason? Well I have one and so I
think you're gonna win but here's my one. There's your
okay.
Unknown: Oh goodness.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, I could I could fart and do a
better echo when the ISO contest over that one. Let's see what I
got.
Unknown: Wow, that is really interesting.
John C Dvorak: Okay, that's it right there. Well, let me play
the other three. Just the same guy who said wow, I'm really
high.
Unknown: You're not great at stoking outrage. Oh, what a
shame. Little to produce I think what's the This one
Oh yeah. Okay my last one Russian disinformation
John C Dvorak: is cute but no,
Adam Curry: it's it's definitely this one. Oh,
Unknown: wow, that is really interesting because it's really
not okay. That one ask us cute
Adam Curry: All right good what do you got? You got some some
John C Dvorak: some yeah I wanted to talk a little about
get to clips because it's so in you know it's not being reported
well here in this country as usual because m five M has their
they have their their walking papers or their orders or
whatever they call it on us my paper they get their orders and
they're not going to do too much about this Belgrade school
shooting in
Adam Curry: Serbia. Oh, okay, good one. I'm glad you got this.
John C Dvorak: So here we have two I have two clips, and one of
them has a little little tidbit that won't be talked about much.
And the other one has kind of another little tidbit that I
want to talk about. So let's play the Belgrade school
shooting this AlJazeera
Unknown: the parents of a 13 year old boy accused of opening
fire in a school in the Serbian capital Belgrade have been
arrested. The city's mourning the deaths of eight children and
one security guard. Police say the suspect to use his father's
gun in the attack. But the boy is not expected to be charged
because he's below the legal age to face trial instead, so be in
the present Alexander Bucha, which is looking to change the
law concerning the age of criminal responsibility and says
the Bible were placed in a psychiatric institution.
John C Dvorak: Ha. So they're doing something that it was
always talked about in Escondido, and it just
disappeared from the face of the earth, arresting the parents for
their bad seed.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And is this it? Was this kid drugged up?
John C Dvorak: That we don't have any not? Probably not in
this case, but who knows? Maybe, but whatever the case was, the
parents of the 13 year old shooter was arrested. I think if
we started doing that here and might change a few things, I
would think so. So the parents are a Russian. And then you hear
this other little tidbit in the end of the second part of this
report, which I think is another reason not to really talk about
too much
Unknown: fire on students inside the hallway before entering his
history classroom, to show to the teacher first, then turn the
weapon on his classmates as they tried to flee killing and
wounding many edocs some spaniel it
was I was walking up the stairs and I could hear a sound I
thought maybe were kids throwing firecrackers having fun, but I
could hear it more on the sound was coming from the front of the
school. I saw the security guard falling to the ground so I
quickly ran from where I was.
I security guard is also among the dead, the teacher left
fighting for her life across the world.
This tragedy occurred in the lettuce rebel group Nick Primary
School of the fracture municipality of the City of
Belgrade. Unfortunately, eight children died and one security
guard was also killed. The injured children in one school
teacher had been hospitalized. No one can bring these children
back to their parents.
As parents in the emergency services courage to the
elementary school in the Serbian capital. The suspect was on the
phone to the police confessing the shooting. Before being
arrested in the schoolyard described as quiet and good
pupil and said to be new to the class. He was led away by police
his face covered, there is yet no known motive for an attack,
the police said was carefully planned to be
as peaceful. This was the list of children that he intended to
kill. He did it alone, he made the plan by himself. The plan of
entering the school of exiting it was found on his desk. And as
he said he determined the priority targets. This sketch
looks like a video game, a horror movie.
These sorts of things does not happen very often in Serbia,
very strict gun laws apply.
John C Dvorak: That doesn't happen very often because strict
gun laws apply. You can't talk about stopping with the strict
gun laws.
Adam Curry: That was rather depressing. I like to leave on
an upbeat note about climate change. And the reason this is
an upbeat clip is because this is Kennedy. You know the Joe
Kennedy, the funny guy. The funny is your senator. See you
Congressman John Kennedy, John. John Kennedy. Yes.
Unknown: See? Yeah, he's a
John C Dvorak: good question. Remember,
Adam Curry: I think he's a senator. So he is badgering the
Assistant Secretary of Energy. Yeah, who's presented the most
recent plan, which is I guess, over until 2035, a total of
55 $0 trillion to combat climate change. Get It sounds about have
you seen this clip?
John C Dvorak: Now I'm sure it's I know as tight as the style of
clips, though they're all funny.
Adam Curry: All these all the senators and the Congress,
people when they do this stuff for the cameras, it's always
performative. It's always, you know, it's to get votes or
whatever this guy, he showboating, showboating. But
but in this case, it's really appropriate. And it's really
good. And he just is, I love the guy percent of
Unknown: global media. But if you could answer my question, if
we spend $50 trillion, to become carbon neutral in the United
States of America by 2050, you're the Deputy Secretary of
Energy. Give me your estimate of how much that is going to reduce
world temperature. So
so first of all, it's a net cost. It's what benefits we're
having from getting our act together and reducing all of
those climate benefits we're
seeing may ask again, or maybe I'm being right, maybe I'm not
being clear. If we spent $50 trillion to become carbon
neutral by 2050. In the United States of America, how? How much
is that going to reduce world temperatures?
This is a global problem. So we need to reduce our emissions,
and we need to do everything we
can how much if we do our other artists are going to reduce the
war for 13% of global emissions? I don't know do you? You don't
know. Do you can do the math we need? You don't know. Do you,
Mr. Secretary? So we're 13%? You know, why won't you tell me? If
we went to zero? That would be 13. For you, you don't know, do
you, you just want us to spend $50 trillion. And you don't have
the slightest idea whether it's going to reduce world
temperatures. Now I'm all for carbon neutrality, but you're
the Deputy Secretary of the Department of Energy, and you're
advocating we spend trillions of dollars to seek carbon
neutrality and you can't and this isn't your money and my
money is taxpayer money. And you can't tell me how much it's
going to lower world temperatures there or you won't
tell me you know, but you won't.
In my heart of hearts. There is no way the world gets his act
together and climate change unless the US leads tell me
how much it's really you. You can't tell me either that or you
won't.
Adam Curry: I love that guy. 35 seconds for one last clip. This
guy's boss, the energy secretary, Jennifer Granholm,
you know the one with a saucers on her head
John C Dvorak: that she calls here's the dumbest one in the
whole group. Well, yes, she
Adam Curry: is because tell me if this sounds like a good idea.
Unknown: Do you support the military adopting that AV fleet
by 2030?
I do and I think we can get there as well. And I do think
that reducing our reliance on the volatility of globally
traded fossil fuels where we know that global events such as
the war in Ukraine can jack up prices for people back home does
not contribute to energy security. I think energy
security is achieved when we have homegrown clean energy that
is abundant. Like you see in Iowa, we think that we can be a
leader globally and how we have become energy independent.
Adam Curry: She wants to put the entire US military fleet on EVs
hilarious so we're in Iraq or some you know one of these
desert places we'd like to go and blow up from time to time we
have to go plug in Yeah, I mean, really in how about the planes
they also
John C Dvorak: be all EVs? Well, they're gonna try to do that
too. If they can.
Adam Curry: These people need to be kicked out. Kicked out. All
of them.
John C Dvorak: How'd they get in? In competency? Obviously no
rigged elections. Hello.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Yes. rigged elections. All right,
everybody enjoy Saturday. You know, King Charles is coronation
that should be Oh, that's right. This
John C Dvorak: the big coronations on Saturday he
played the clips remember? I know but I didn't realize it was
this Saturday.
Adam Curry: There you go. No agenda always on top of the news
and behind the title
John C Dvorak: Well, you know I'm not gonna be there that
wasn't invited.
Adam Curry: Coming up next on the agenda stream we got Rhino
the bearded with his double O top 10. Yeah, music on the
stream all legal cool deal. In the show mixes we have classic
April Kirby. We got new DS last classic Billy Bones and some
Dustin Jones and coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in your femur region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain
I'm John C. Devorah.
Adam Curry: We return on Sunday with another episode of the Best
podcast in the universe. Your media deconstruction, remember
us at DeVore ak.org/na Until then, adios mofos a hui, Hui,
and such
John C Dvorak: Every day
Unknown: for the show like you didn't have a chance to do
anyway,
Adam Curry: thank you for producing the best podcast in
the universe while the producers produce it y'all produce it we
just do it. I've been a listener for the past few years I have no
recollection of how I found the show. Stoner owner just dropped
in my lap at first I thought it was okay
Unknown: back and forth punching the nuggets It was fun getting
back to see my nephews I really want a son or a daughter. I
don't care a healthy baby in this world I guess it's a baby
who would go for that would you say in fact was wack Bobby and
me have way too much money to consider that day right? In
hindsight, the family tragedy kids passing was sad to see in
the society we normalize the lies that we tell ourselves not
even surprised brain Washington schools is happening earlier
progress to regress when the men are getting earlier fixed your
face can lie that I'm looking certainly here gender affirming
care your parents are you not scared? Child castration,
mutilation, top surgery scars kids and treated like stars is
that formation generation ruining the nation born in the
wrong body got domain mistakes, who will Barbra Chet GBT is full
of deep fakes. 80% moving from girls and boys media portrays
the other way and kids are not what kids are not playing with
their toys SEL social emotional learning. cradle to the grave
fathers in leadership is what they yearn for anti trans
legislators since they know more in my lifetime on medication
therapies more demonizing faith in a higher God wants you to
relinquish the sovereignty to God than the latter you like
Saad Sodom and Gomorrah other times we are living in look
around at all this silly promoted cities in Norwich and
know well what know what don't get offended what's a woman
anyway top of the pyramid transgender
Adam Curry: pollution has come to light has that information my
wife has worked the last six years for a company that makes
prosthetic penises for transmit I mean we have no listeners of
any influence but we've got to be interesting people
John C Dvorak: we have the apps we've
Adam Curry: got no note for this girl males let me just take a
look and nurture
Unknown: to me
back to the ball
Adam Curry: you know if you smoke weed out musically sound
different
Unknown: this adrift
the bonds I got the bond
John C Dvorak: Amen I'm a like a lightweight kind of a little
waste.
Adam Curry: Anyone see you in this state?
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna go listen to Rihanna.
Unknown: MOPO boruch.org/in A Wow, that is really interesting.