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Adam Curry: Pierre expand the
salon we're coming. Adam curry

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Jhansi Devorah April 6 2023 This
is your award winning chemo

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nation media assassination
episode 1544. This is no agenda

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affirming the affected and
broadcasting live from the heart

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of the Texas hill country here
in Cedar region number six in

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the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,

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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I'm

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wondering why anyone would want
my zip code to see if I qualify.

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I'm Jhansi Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Do you qualify
though, that's the question. Do

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you qualify? Do you qualify? I
don't know. What was the

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qualification for

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John C Dvorak: anything? They
weren't my zip code. You

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haven't? You haven't gotten full
over the area. You'll see what

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I'm talking about. Well, no,

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Adam Curry: I have not however,
as of today, I am full on fiber.

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John C Dvorak: Oh, you're on it
now?

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Adam Curry: Yes. In fact, I was
even able to up the quality of

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our connection on clean feed.
Really? Yes five gigabits per

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second Yes, five gigabits per
second, up and down. I am so

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jacked about this. It's I've
been waiting, I've all my life,

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I've was the

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John C Dvorak: same as you
little as your little wireless.

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Adam Curry: Shut up. Well, of
course, it's not just the space.

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It's the latency was so great.
Which is, you know, they have we

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have like, like a five
millisecond ping or something.

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It's incredibly fast. And that's
what enables me to up the quote,

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you sound better. Believe me.
It's It's subtle, but you sound

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better because I can put clean
feet instead of speech enhance

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or optimize. I'm older. Okay,
there's that. But there's one

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other thing I noticed. And I
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when this happens I have from
the days when I went from a

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what? 56? No, actually. Yeah,
think when it was we went from

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44. What was it 56k modem,
right? Because we had was that

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the highest you could have a 56k
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John C Dvorak: I don't know if
he got a 56k on a modem. I

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thought it was 19 Two or Oh, no,

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Adam Curry: no. Well, I remember
I remember going to 56k Frame

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Relay, which was remarkably
better than any dial up because

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you know, of course, it was all
this error correction and stuff

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that really guides that 56k
throughput. And from there, you

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know, I went to ISDN, which
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And then if I remember at the
office, the big T one line, one

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gigabit per second. Ooh, the
whole office was on it. Remember

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those days? I don't think it was
that fast. The T one one T line.

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John C Dvorak: One line was not
one gigabit per second.

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Adam Curry: That was that's the
max that a T one. I'm not sure

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if that T one is really the card
it's not even the line it's the

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card can handle. one megabit per
second not gig megabit megabit

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John gigabit megabit you say
gigabit noise I will I meant to

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say if I did I apologize. one
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whole office would be on that we
had point cast member point cast

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and everyone's point cast would
update at the same time

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John C Dvorak: Yeah. more
memorable was the guy was

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offered a buyout for like 100
million bucks or something and

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he now

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Adam Curry: they didn't take it.
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littered with these people.

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John C Dvorak: The whole
operation Live Journal I think

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at the same thing

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Adam Curry: so what what Oh,
yes, go ahead.

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John C Dvorak: I was so I'm I
caught a PG or a Pacific

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telephone guy ad open up one of
those big boxes on the street

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and he's looking at it and it
was wiring something up I said I

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asked him about a T one line I
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line says he shows all these
wires that go from you know

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point to point all over this
mess of of wires. And he says we

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always always got a thicker wire
for the T one line. Oh really?

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We always use this thick wire
for the T one lines funny. He's

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the same guy told me about the
squirrels

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Adam Curry: ah yes scroll the
scroll thing is real. Well,

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yeah,

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John C Dvorak: he did. The story
he told me which is another one

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of my many stories. He says the
squirrels that one of the things

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that were their pain in the ass
because they eat through the

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wire. They liked the rubber
outer coating. So they went

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through the process of of
developing an desoldered this

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plastic coating that was just
laced with capsicum, the hot

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chili pepper stuff. Oh, they
must love that piece. says he

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says he says it worked for about
a month until they got a taste

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Adam Curry: That's, that's like
the stuff we spray off for the

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deers the deer don't don't eat
our trees and they know what I

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do kind of like this peppery
stuff, it's good. Anyway,

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whatever always remind myself is
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upgrades and of course, you
know, my, like the the network

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card in or the Wi Fi card in the
billing that I have it's 300

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megabits so I mean, I had to
plug it in to see five five

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gigabits per second, but even at
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with that very short ping time
you get more done. It's it's

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seconds per time you hit a
webpage sometimes. So you're

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winning minutes an hour, you get
more done. I always forget about

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that. It's like Oh, wow.

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John C Dvorak: And I'm like
until you're jacked. I am jacked

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up about it. I mean two
lightning bolt his whole

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Adam Curry: I still have a
backup. I'm keeping I'm cutting

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the cord spectrum is out of here
at the end of the end of this

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month spectrums out. Over
expensive crap with stuff I

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don't watch an OTA is in. I'm
cited.

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John C Dvorak: The Yeah, well,
you'll find out about getting

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your zip code. Oh, all right.

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Adam Curry: So I have to start
off with something cuz some new

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stuff has come to light. And I
think is pretty important for a

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lot of what we'll be discussing
in the future. And it really

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starts with a mia culpa on my
part, I was wrong about Dylan

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Mulvaney, well, partially wrong.
But in general, I can be seen as

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wrong about this Bud Light and
Dylan Mulvaney so called

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promotion?

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John C Dvorak: Well, your let me
back up. You were wrong by but

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it was your reviewer wrong,
because you took it from a

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theoretical basis, which I think
is something we do on the show a

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lot, and I think is valid. And
the theoretical basis was the

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following. Just to remind
everybody, okay, you had worked

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for these people. And you knew
how they thought, and you could

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not see in a million years how
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something so stupid as this.
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Adam Curry: even worse. But
well, let me let me go. Let me

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step back just a little bit
more, because I even tweeted

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that this can that was being
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Dylan Mulvaney 's face on it. I
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because to take it one step
further than what we discussed

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on the show. I mean, okay, in
1996, I have just started my own

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company, I'd left MTV and I got
a call from Robert McCauley. Bob

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McCauley from Anheuser Busch and
St. Louis. He says, Hello, I saw

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what you did with the Grammy
Awards we had done. So we called

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it the first cyber cast for the
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basically see you see me camera
one frame a second and Casio

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sponsored it with their brand
new digital camera, which you

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had to take the card out and put
into your laptop. And it was all

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slow, but it was new. I said, I
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talk to you about a website. So
I said, Hold on a second, let me

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get sales department put on
different hats Hello, sales

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department here. And Bob said,
I'd like you to come to St.

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Louis, I want to talk about a
website for Anheuser Busch for

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Budweiser. So we go, and, and so
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building budweiser.com Bud
light.com. And we built they had

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it was a great company because
they all this content from the

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Clydesdales to, to the sports
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they had a lot of content. We
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How you know, because they were
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at the at the plant in St.
Louis. In fact, we created the

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Born on date that came out of
the website we built for them as

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we learned that by looking at
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you could determine down to the
quarter hour when your beer came

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off the line. And so we said oh,
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on the website, we have the we
didn't have QR code scanners and

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phones, of course at the time.
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underneath the barcode, then you
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and it became very successful.
But there were the legacy of

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Anheuser Busch Aug. Bush, the
third nickname grinder and then

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he was going to be succeeded by
Auguste Bush the fourth nickname

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woody who I always had my doubts
about because when we met him he

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was in his office looking at
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out his car like okay, I don't
know what you're going to be

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doing with the legacy of this
company. But grinder The third

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was very clear because we want
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the cam we want we want to have
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on the bottles. It was like
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come on out no you have to put
nothing on our internet on our

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beer bottles and cans so now not
gonna have that's an accurate

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depiction of how he said that.
And after about a year and a

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half, you know we finally got
them to use it in their some of

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their commercials and their
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When used I probably Coke or
Pepsi started putting it on

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cans. So they eventually they
eventually said, Okay, we'll put

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it on the camps. But it was it
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logo, the Budweiser, all of this
was sacred sacred sacred. So for

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them to even make as a joke one
a one off can with anyone I

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don't care if it's dealing
Mulvaney or elephant or

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anything, spuds Mackenzie wasn't
on the can either the stupid dog

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to not only be on the can, but
overlapping the name Bud Light

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that was unconscionable to me.
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John C Dvorak: how many years
ago was this 26

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Adam Curry: years ago?

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John C Dvorak: Times change?

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Adam Curry: Well, clearly. Now,
here's the part that I was kind

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of correct on. So this was
dubbed on on Twitter, certainly

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social media as dilla Mulvaney
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no, the Absolutely not. Because,
you know, besides that, there

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was no brand ambassador
announcement, there was nothing

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on their website, nothing on
there. Nothing at all about this

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on social media. If you look at
the hashtags, this is an

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influencer campaign. In fact,
the contest that 1000s of

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influencers, participated in
posting the same text about a

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$15,000 prize with the hashtags
that hashtag Bud Light partner,

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and dealer Mulvaney is nothing
more or less than an influencer

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who participates in this
campaign. Now, again, for any

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brand manager to send even as a
commemorative Hey,

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congratulations on your 365 days
as being a girl, you know, for

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them to send that is is already
just unbelievable. But okay,

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times change. So it's dealing
Mulvaney is not a brand

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ambassador, but the damage I
feel had already been done. You

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see, when you say see Kid Rock,
machine gunning cases of Bud

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Light, I'd say there's a little
bit of brand damage there. And I

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think there may be more than
they realize, but I also

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understand now with the latest
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again, it's Nike hires Dylan
Mulvaney as brand ambassador.

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No, no, again, it's an
influencer campaign. And I

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understand now what's happening.
So many, I don't think Dylan

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Mulvaney smart, but CAA
represents Dylan Mulvaney,

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someone who's very, very smart,
and is saying you're

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participating in all of these
influencer campaigns, which of

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course they do get paid for.
Because they can't imagine if

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they said, Oh, no, no, you can't
be one of our influencers. That

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would be the real brand suicide
for any of these companies. And

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some, I think, was a Gooper.
Kate, Kate Spade she's dead but

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Kate Spade company, they
actually may have hired her as a

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brand ambassador doesn't matter.
So this is going on. And it's,

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it's really crazy. To me, I
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this cannot be good for a brand
like Bud Light. It just doesn't.

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And it's rude. In general,
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where it's, you know, sports
bras, are you kidding me? So,

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what this brought me to is what
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it's, it's a lot deep. In fact,
this is this is just a

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distraction. And two things came
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is I'm very happy I received
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I'm happy received this email.
You know, no agenda has people

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across the board they deliver
our boots up boots on the ground

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reports. We've got people with
military law enforcement and

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education. In Me, you name it
people in big brands, people in

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the medical field, someone's in
everyone's an expert in one

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thing, and they will always tell
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show. So we also have gay and
lesbian and yes, we have trans

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people. And then we've always
read emails from the official

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tranny have no agenda, Ally
Jade. And I received an email

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this morning that that adage
well formerly known as Ali Jade,

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want me wants me to share with
everybody and then it leads into

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what's really happening here.
And this is Ali Jade announcing

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the official transgender tranny
have no agenda retirement. By

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I'm reading verbatim, I'm
sending this as my resignation

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as official training of no
agenda after almost 11 years or

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so it's time to move on. I am by
no way stopping listening to the

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best podcast in the universe.
But I can no longer provide any

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insight to the show for this
crazy transgender filled world.

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A population that can't and
shouldn't be more than a small

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speck of a percentage somehow
balloons to a larger speck of a

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percentage as now and now is in
the new cycle to the point of ad

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nauseam. I'd hoped As the time
passed, there would be a cure to

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rid myself of mental issues that
had me seek care and then

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transition. But alas, it is now
seen as normal and doesn't need

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to be fixed. It needs to be
amped up. And then the drugs

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come and changes apparently
should happen sooner and sooner.

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I do not wish any ill will on
the poor souls going through

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this when they get older, they
will have enough to worry about

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and endure. You too are the only
one saying it and it's the hard

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truth. I am a medical cash cow.
I have to get meds until death

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and there's a high probability
that hormone treatments led to

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my multiple sclerosis a study
out of Boston I believe. So

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1000s of dollars in MRI
treatments and doctor's

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appointments followed then
throwing the eventual medical

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issues that will come with age
for being on hormone treatment

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to my male anatomy. How about
not being able to control your

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bladder much anymore and always
worrying about actions No, I am

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not a woman. I play the part of
a woman in the world I respect

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and do not go into areas where
changing is done I do my best to

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adapt them blend in as not it's
not even appear as male or

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transgender. I know I'm a
product of inheritance into the

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distance from the perfection
lost in the Garden of Eden. I do

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not blame God for this I ask for
his forgiveness and help dealing

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with this every day as I know I
cannot go this alone. Keep

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deconstructing this and keep
being honest, you are on the

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right path. You and John have
never said anything that

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shouldn't have been said and I
take no ill will from those

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statements. This has kind of
turned into confession as I have

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no one else to say this to I
have not strong enough to come

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out as an advocate to warn
people of the dangers ahead. But

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I hope that you too can be that
take it from older person

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there's a lot they don't tell
these kids and will have to do

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and I've had to deal with from
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have to deal with from a very
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not going to be easy road. Good
luck and Godspeed to those who

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do. This kind of blew me away
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John C Dvorak: She has MS.

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Adam Curry: Yes. Ah, and bladder
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John C Dvorak: EMS is

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Adam Curry: yeah, just horrible.
Horrible. So I come across,

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there's a couple of things going
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to the afflicted podcast. And
there's also a documentary now

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just coming out. And there's
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which I think may be part of the
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matter, Jennifer be like or
bilag be like, she's an

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investigative reporter. And I
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longer YouTube video which the I
it's in the show notes everyone

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should watch. And this really
shows that Dylan Mulvaney is

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just the distraction in the
normalization of something much,

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much, much bigger. And it is, in
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Unknown: It's technology. It's
the advancement of technology to

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improve, you know, our lives,
but we never get a say in any of

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that, you know, we don't get to
say we don't get to decide we

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don't get all the information.
This is all elites deciding this

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for us. Right. And it's, you
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of the market. You know,
everybody is profiteering off of

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this now, even if they have no
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transgender modeling agencies,
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photographers taking picture of
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it's everywhere. And this same
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their grade schools. You know,
by second grade, they're

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learning about gender identity,
taking hormones. And this is all

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brought in under anti bullying
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passed by Obama and funded by
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the largest one of the most
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There's many of them. Jennifer
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he purports to be a female, and
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synthetic sex characteristics of
a female. And he drives this

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ideology into into the
psychiatric departments of major

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universities into other medical
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the military, etc, etc. And his
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partnered with squadron capital,
which is a medical device

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company. So he's following the
same tragic story of Arcus

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foundation. Right, Stryker
medical as a medical supply

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Corporation, right? And they're
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these surgeries not just, you
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surgeries, but human
augmentation. When we when we

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open the door to these kind of
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you know, the way that we're
planted in the in the Eco

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sphere, you know, once we let
that go that together, anything

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is up for grabs, you know, they
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manipulate you any way you want.
And that's why these rights are

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I mean, from what I can tell
these white these rights these

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gender rights are being passed.
It's not about people that are

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allowing their a medical attack
on their sex. It's for future

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augmented human beings. I follow
the money and money trails do

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not lie. They tell you the
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Adam Curry: So I'm kind of
familiar. Remember the bullying

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laws that we were tracking? What
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. So there's
a lot of Yeah, I, it's hard to

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make the connection with that.
But I think it was just a

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coincidence. It just happened to
play into it. I think there's, I

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think it's one step higher. Oh,
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Adam Curry: go follow the money.

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looked at all these different
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organizations that were really

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Adam Curry: huge, huge, like
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Unknown: because foundation and
Gill Foundation, they're

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mammoth. They've each given
like, a half a billion dollars

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to spread this ideology through,
through the cultures, you know,

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not just our culture, but you
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they've, they, they fund other
organizations that do the same

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thing. And they create this
whole scaffolding, this

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political scaffolding to drive
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people, you have people that are
being trained in politics, to

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get them into political
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Institute, for instance, that's
funded very heavily by orcas

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Foundation. And like, for
instance, Rachel Levine was part

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of that organization. You know,
they call people from different

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schools and different areas that
are going to work for them. And

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then they train them to be in
these positions to drive policy

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through the culture.

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Adam Curry: High enough yet.
We're getting higher. And now

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have just like the Hollywood
Foundation, the Norman Lear. Oh,

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yeah, we've got media culture
and something that she coins

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appropriately.

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Unknown: And so then they have
media people as well, like lad,

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is the media arm. So glad and
consolidation are closely

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working together. And glad goes
about spreading information

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about how people are supposed to
talk about this, because it's a

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human right, and you don't want
to offend anybody. Right. So the

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message comes from on high. And
what I mean by on high is not

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Arcus foundation, I mean,
Stryker medical $17.1 billion

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Corporation and growing by the
day, in 75 different countries,

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the medical industrial complex
is bigger than the military

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industrial complex,

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Adam Curry: she this really
struck hit home for me, I'm

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like, Yeah, that's what these
RNA messenger vaccines were

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about. This is what all the
trans rights is, human rights is

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all about all the stuff you're
not allowed to talk about. And

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then going back to and you may
know these guys from, from the

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older earlier days of Silicon
Valley and, and tech, the it

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really is a agenda, which at its
heart is to well, transhumanism

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to get rid of women, for sure,
at least their baby making

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capacity capability. And you
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Unknown: you can see this this
tragic story in the, you know,

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along late 1990s, early 2000s.
There was a big shift in the

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culture from, you know, data
from the digital age and the

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information age. And it's sort
of moved into artificial

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intelligence, transhumanism,
robots, nanotechnology,

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biotechnology, etc. So this is
kind of where we're going. Now,

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this is like the future tragic
story of this. But you know,

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Silicon Valley has been pushing
a transhumanist agenda for, you

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know, since the early 2000s,
late 1990s. So then Bainbridge

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Adam Curry: Gino Bainbridge does
that name ring a bell? No,

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Unknown: another interesting
character, Martine Roth flat

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Adam Curry: about that guy,
Rothblatt, Martine Rothblatt,

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Unknown: who is also a
transhumanist and Roth flat is

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he's a transsexual, he's a man
that's appropriated stimuli

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crumbs of women's biology for
himself, and he calls himself

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you know, transgender or
transsexual. He's very well

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renowned and very well, you
know, appreciated for his

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accomplishments. So he's been in
the tech sector. He's been in

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the, in the medical sector. He's
been in all over Hollywood. You

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know, he's been on Oprah. And
he's been on a million different

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shows, you know, with his robot
wife, which he created Rothblatt

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wrote a book, and it's really
like, it's really a blueprint of

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what's going on in the culture.
Now, this is his ideology,

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working off of the work of
Bainbridge whereas we're going

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to disintegrate the sexes the
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there'll be no youth and age
there'll be no you know, male

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and female. There'll be no
Transhumanism is like boundary

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lessness you know, you're out
there in cyberspace, ultimately,

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while you're getting there, it's
an upgrade and humanity melding

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yourself with machines, you
know, transferring reproduction,

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human reproduction to the tech
sector, in I think it was late

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1980 He got together with a
whole bunch of other

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transvestite lawyers and, and
transsexuals and they created a

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document, which was the first
the very first gender bill,

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which brings this embodiment
into the law, the sexual

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objectification of female
biology, you know, into parts

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and making a human right out of
that. Disembodied, well, where

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he's going is full on dis
embodiment where everybody lives

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in cyberspace, we live in a
virtual reality, we don't live

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in our bodies anymore, we're
gonna be up uploaded into

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cyberspace. Well, in order to
sell that to the public, you

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know, transhumanism and just
embodiment as a life. You're

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gonna have to groom them and get
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that is to create this ideology
that says that you can choose

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your sex. That's disembodiment.

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Adam Curry: I know it sounds far
fetched. But I saw this whole

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thing. And there's a lot in
there that makes a lot of sense

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as to why this is happening. And
why is it happening? Because

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these people are insane.

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John C Dvorak: Well, that's not
what I do. I see it. And I have

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two clips. By coincidence.

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Adam Curry: There's no
coincidence, man.

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John C Dvorak: This was these
are about something else. But

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this was on NTD on NTD business,
I believe. And they had Roger

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Simon on. And he is a novelist
than a guy from Hollywood. This

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is one of their guys that comes
on any kind of expresses.

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perspective. And I think this is
this takes us above everything

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00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,430
you've just played, to what is
really probably about and play

436
00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:08,100
this Roger Simon on communism.

437
00:27:08,130 --> 00:27:10,440
Unknown: Roger Simon, welcome to
our show. Thanks so much for

438
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,500
coming on. Now, Concern is
growing among critics of Trump's

439
00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:17,190
indictment that America could be
turning into a banana state. But

440
00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:20,100
in recent epic Times article,
you say that the indictment is a

441
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:22,860
move towards something much
bigger than a banana state.

442
00:27:23,130 --> 00:27:24,210
Could you elaborate on that?

443
00:27:25,230 --> 00:27:29,010
Well, yeah, to call the United
States of banana state is a

444
00:27:29,010 --> 00:27:35,220
little bit harder or Repubblica
bygone era in the original. It

445
00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:40,500
is not because it's too big and
powerful for that. What is

446
00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:44,700
incipient communist state have a
slightly different form than

447
00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:49,470
we're used to, but in very weird
and ironic ways similar to the

448
00:27:49,470 --> 00:27:50,910
People's Republic of China.

449
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:54,900
And you say that the US has been
evolving towards this end for

450
00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:58,890
some time pointing to censorship
from the media and government as

451
00:27:58,890 --> 00:28:01,590
examples. What have you seen
recently, one of

452
00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:07,230
them is where I'm here in
Nashville. And as your viewers

453
00:28:07,470 --> 00:28:10,650
know, we've had a real
disastrous, awful murder here,

454
00:28:11,070 --> 00:28:15,930
in Nashville of six people in a
church, three of whom were nine

455
00:28:15,930 --> 00:28:20,610
year old children. The murder
was perpetrated by a woman in

456
00:28:20,610 --> 00:28:25,860
her late 20s, who decided she
was transgendered, and was a

457
00:28:25,860 --> 00:28:30,420
male and showed up at the end
committed these murders in what

458
00:28:30,420 --> 00:28:35,130
white may call terrorists drag.
I mean, she looks sort of like a

459
00:28:35,610 --> 00:28:38,850
classical terrorist for the
Middle East with a machine gun.

460
00:28:38,850 --> 00:28:43,320
I mean, that's what she looked
like. And, and this was reported

461
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:48,420
on as transgendered and, and of
course, the manifesto that she

462
00:28:48,420 --> 00:28:52,350
wrote has been suppressed by the
government and the FBI. But

463
00:28:52,380 --> 00:28:56,850
interestingly enough, the word
transgender or transgendered was

464
00:28:56,850 --> 00:29:01,320
suppressed by CBS, a major
network of our country, for

465
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,840
reasons they don't want to make
clear, but I think are quite

466
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:09,960
obvious. And that is that the
dissolution of the family has

467
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,380
been a major intent of communism
since the early days of the most

468
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:14,670
incredible revolution.

469
00:29:14,940 --> 00:29:17,700
Adam Curry: Go, you know what,
I'll give that to you. I'll give

470
00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:20,880
that to you that the agenda
above the agenda agenda of the

471
00:29:20,910 --> 00:29:25,950
medical industrial complex is
communism. I totally I totally

472
00:29:25,950 --> 00:29:26,580
believe that.

473
00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:29,580
John C Dvorak: It's the
dissolution of the family. And

474
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,830
if you remember, the Antifa Yep.
The protocol nuclear,

475
00:29:35,250 --> 00:29:37,530
Adam Curry: nuclear family
cannot exist. It

476
00:29:37,530 --> 00:29:39,870
John C Dvorak: had to be
dissolved. And you've already

477
00:29:39,870 --> 00:29:43,410
pointed out that this this
transgender stuff has been

478
00:29:43,410 --> 00:29:48,630
taking over from Black Lives
Matter. Now, trans lives matter.

479
00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:49,920
Let's play part two of this.

480
00:29:49,950 --> 00:29:52,410
Unknown: It goes in and out
because they realize is very

481
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,700
difficult to do. But if you just
if you dissolve the family, then

482
00:29:56,910 --> 00:30:00,840
what does the individual have
left but the state So the state

483
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,480
becomes your family and then
you're under the control of the

484
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,120
state and you're de facto in a
communism,

485
00:30:06,210 --> 00:30:09,030
what do you see as the way
forward for breaking out of

486
00:30:09,030 --> 00:30:12,060
this, what you've called
brainwashing this

487
00:30:12,150 --> 00:30:16,830
not easy, but in one way is the
old fashioned way which is learn

488
00:30:16,830 --> 00:30:20,250
about it knowledge helps you
realize what's happening to you.

489
00:30:20,250 --> 00:30:25,260
I mean, I congratulate and TD
for doing that APEC times as

490
00:30:25,260 --> 00:30:30,300
others do it. But the other way
is to elect people who are awake

491
00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:34,650
to that, you know, Donald Trump
for all his pluses and minuses

492
00:30:34,650 --> 00:30:39,000
and, and excessive behavior.
Similarly, he is certainly very

493
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,260
aware of this, and is working
against it as as another

494
00:30:43,260 --> 00:30:47,460
political candidate less known
Vivek Ramaswamy, very aware of

495
00:30:47,460 --> 00:30:51,270
it. Others too are aware of it.
So you have a you have to elect

496
00:30:51,270 --> 00:30:55,140
people who are aware of it, you
have to make known the feelings

497
00:30:55,140 --> 00:30:58,320
and you have to talk to your
friends and relatives about it.

498
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,160
This is maybe the hardest part.
It's easy to vote the secret

499
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,160
ballot, but it's harder to talk
to people that you've known a

500
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,720
long time who can disappear on
you who can alienate you can

501
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:10,710
ruin your life.

502
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:16,230
Adam Curry: Wow, this is so
smart how they've done this by

503
00:31:16,260 --> 00:31:21,090
abusing children. Because once
it's children, if you can't say

504
00:31:21,090 --> 00:31:23,640
anything Oh, no, no, no, no, my
child was trans. You can't say

505
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,610
anything about that. You're
horrible. You're a horrible

506
00:31:26,610 --> 00:31:32,310
person. If you say there is
sorry. I mean, yeah. Ah, man.

507
00:31:33,210 --> 00:31:37,140
And then. Okay, so it does kind
of fit together though. Because

508
00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:41,370
if you want to dissolve the
family, dissolve the nuclear

509
00:31:41,370 --> 00:31:45,870
family, then you do turn back to
technology, and all kinds of

510
00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:49,320
CRISPR gene splicing God knows I
don't know what what they're

511
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,560
talking about to do crit to be
in charge of that,

512
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,430
John C Dvorak: and also
sterilize people. Oh, man, let's

513
00:31:56,430 --> 00:31:59,460
at a young age. That's a good
way to dissolve the family.

514
00:31:59,460 --> 00:31:59,700
Listen

515
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:02,430
Adam Curry: to Kareem Abdul
Jabbar, John Pierre Van Damme,

516
00:32:02,610 --> 00:32:06,600
Unknown: does the President have
a position on at what age these

517
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,480
kinds of therapies and surgeries
are appropriate? That's

518
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,260
something for a child and their
parents to decide. It's not

519
00:32:13,260 --> 00:32:17,250
something that we believe,
should be decided by, by

520
00:32:17,250 --> 00:32:17,970
legislators.

521
00:32:18,090 --> 00:32:20,610
Adam Curry: We decide everything
else when you can go to war,

522
00:32:20,610 --> 00:32:22,860
when you can drink when you can
do all kinds of stuff when you

523
00:32:22,860 --> 00:32:29,040
can have sex. Most states, but
now no, no, no, no, no, this is

524
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,510
not to be deterred. And I think
that

525
00:32:30,570 --> 00:32:33,300
John C Dvorak: if they decide
when you can have sex in all

526
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:35,370
states, not in most

527
00:32:35,370 --> 00:32:39,900
Adam Curry: states, all states.
And I think what happens with

528
00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:45,360
with people who, you know,
people who sin will often try to

529
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,300
relieve their guilt by getting
others to commit the same sin.

530
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:53,610
So when you've transitioned your
child, and you see that it's

531
00:32:53,610 --> 00:32:57,300
maybe not going all that? Well,
then of course, you know, the

532
00:32:57,300 --> 00:33:00,330
easiest way is all you or your
kid may be trans, you should

533
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,200
talk to my doctor about it. Now,
and I read the book,

534
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,620
John C Dvorak: well, they tend
to the parents of kids who, who

535
00:33:07,620 --> 00:33:11,490
they've put through this by
accident or by peer route, or

536
00:33:11,490 --> 00:33:15,060
pressure or whatever, all tend
to be activist. Yes.

537
00:33:15,180 --> 00:33:19,410
Adam Curry: And then when I read
the book, that parents give each

538
00:33:19,410 --> 00:33:23,220
other like, Oh, my kid may be
trans what to do. It's all about

539
00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:25,710
that. It's all about the
political outfall of it fall

540
00:33:25,710 --> 00:33:28,770
out, it's about, you know, what
your neighbors and your family,

541
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,420
it's how to handle that not how
to handle the child. And we know

542
00:33:33,510 --> 00:33:37,140
families that have done this,
and it has not turned out well.

543
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:49,020
Ma'am, these people are so evil.
And anyway, when you have and

544
00:33:49,020 --> 00:33:53,550
this is quite a statement from
from the formerly former

545
00:33:53,550 --> 00:33:56,850
official trainee have no agenda
to say Hey, me, I was a cash

546
00:33:56,850 --> 00:34:01,170
cow. I am a cash cow. And that
is, it's the funny thing about

547
00:34:01,170 --> 00:34:03,930
it is when you get to communism,
there's a lot of people making

548
00:34:03,930 --> 00:34:04,410
money.

549
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:11,610
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, of
course. Putin is supposed to be

550
00:34:11,610 --> 00:34:12,900
the richest man in the world.

551
00:34:12,930 --> 00:34:17,100
Adam Curry: Yeah. So they say,
but it's the other way of

552
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:19,830
knowing his friends hold it for
him. He doesn't hold it himself.

553
00:34:19,830 --> 00:34:24,660
Of course, that'd be crazy. Um,
so I do have an idea, though. I

554
00:34:24,660 --> 00:34:27,300
don't know if it'll work. But,
you know, I think that I'm not

555
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:30,840
recommending anyone do this. But
when it comes to this, you know,

556
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:37,050
transgender agenda online and
these influencers, you know, I

557
00:34:37,050 --> 00:34:39,960
think that you should just take
any company like take Chrysler

558
00:34:40,410 --> 00:34:44,280
and then just, you know, just
post fake artificial generated

559
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,000
images of all your your
transsexual brand ambassadors

560
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,330
and see if any one of them has
the guts to say no, no, that's

561
00:34:51,330 --> 00:34:54,540
not associated with us.
Someone's got to break this

562
00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:57,960
spell. Someone's got to break
this spell. This is nuts.

563
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,170
Anyway, There you go. So we
don't have to talk about that

564
00:35:04,170 --> 00:35:05,640
because everyone's obsessed with
it.

565
00:35:06,330 --> 00:35:09,090
John C Dvorak: I was hoping you
weren't going to talk about I

566
00:35:09,090 --> 00:35:13,620
thought Dylan. I think Dylan
Mulvaney is a phony. Yep. And

567
00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:20,070
that's just don't see what the
attention part of it is. I mean,

568
00:35:20,070 --> 00:35:24,120
she, she, he, whatever, is gigs,
likes to get attention does a

569
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,440
good job of it. The giveaway to
me was always the video that's

570
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:36,180
going around. It's on YouTube.
When Dylan as a boy was on. The

571
00:35:36,180 --> 00:35:39,120
Price Is Right. What was it the
prices? Right?

572
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,360
Adam Curry: Yeah, prices, right.
Yeah, it was, like a nut job.

573
00:35:42,690 --> 00:35:45,450
John C Dvorak: She runs around
like a nut job as a guy. Don't

574
00:35:45,450 --> 00:35:47,820
even guys, fruity guy would

575
00:35:47,820 --> 00:35:50,100
Adam Curry: even say she when it
comes to this person. Don't even

576
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:51,600
say that. That's insane.

577
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:56,280
John C Dvorak: And it was like,
ridiculous. It's the same

578
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:01,380
person. Exactly. It was
obviously some hotkeys. While

579
00:36:01,710 --> 00:36:06,240
they were, I'll use that. I
don't like it. Oh, it let's do

580
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:09,780
that. There you go. So it was
wants to be in Hollywood. It

581
00:36:09,780 --> 00:36:15,390
wants to be and is it as a as a
person trying to make money as a

582
00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:16,650
screwball, I think

583
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,660
Adam Curry: did very well. And
Dilma is no reason for me to

584
00:36:21,660 --> 00:36:27,720
promote it. No, of course not.
But also know that it is

585
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:36,660
represented by CA, the very same
people who picked up the high,

586
00:36:37,050 --> 00:36:41,670
they did time's up. Remember,
they took the after Harvey

587
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:44,640
Weinstein. And they did time's
up. And they promoted all this.

588
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:48,090
And I'm sure they promoted Black
Lives Matter. These are evil

589
00:36:48,090 --> 00:36:51,180
people. If people don't love
you, or your family or your

590
00:36:51,180 --> 00:36:57,120
children or America, it a
horrible people. Horrible. So

591
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,100
yes, we don't have talked about
anymore. But we do have to

592
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:02,280
understand that that's the
agenda. And I'm with you on the

593
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,120
on the communism part. And I'm
with you on that. That could be

594
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,280
above all of it. Absolutely.

595
00:37:08,670 --> 00:37:10,680
John C Dvorak: When people to
write this down, and this is

596
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,630
something I think people should
be aware of, because you were

597
00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:17,490
talking about CAA. And it
they're highly prevalent in this

598
00:37:17,490 --> 00:37:20,580
in these in this documentary
that's floating around, which

599
00:37:20,580 --> 00:37:23,910
just came out about a week or
two ago. And it's called, and

600
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:26,700
it's done by the New York Times,
and they've done a tremendously

601
00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:30,510
good job of it, even though it's
gotten some criticism from I

602
00:37:30,510 --> 00:37:32,940
think it was the Hollywood
reporter who said it was a

603
00:37:32,940 --> 00:37:35,730
little discombobulated, even
though it's incredibly

604
00:37:35,730 --> 00:37:39,240
important. It's called Sin
Eater, to crimes of Anthony

605
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:45,480
Pelicano. Who's that? He is the
fixer in Hollywood, who had

606
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,980
tapped pretty much everybody's
phones, and ended up in jail for

607
00:37:49,980 --> 00:37:54,390
17 years. For a bunch of he was
Iraq. It was racketeering that

608
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:58,650
was going on down there. It's a
tremendous documentary. It's on

609
00:37:58,650 --> 00:38:02,340
Hulu and YouTube TV, they have
it but you want to watch it on

610
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:09,780
Hulu as you can. It's two parts.
And as was done by is produced

611
00:38:09,780 --> 00:38:16,110
by FX and and New York Times is
behind it. And it documents the

612
00:38:16,110 --> 00:38:22,290
kind of evils that were going on
in Hollywood in the 90s. And

613
00:38:22,290 --> 00:38:26,880
2000s is just a tremendous
product. I was riveted to it the

614
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,390
other day. revenant what's it
called again? Sin eight are the

615
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:33,690
crimes of Anthony Pelicano sin
eater.

616
00:38:37,050 --> 00:38:39,420
Adam Curry: And any other big
names that are fun to talk about

617
00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:40,650
in that documentary

618
00:38:41,250 --> 00:38:44,670
John C Dvorak: for the A's in
their Garry Shandling's in

619
00:38:44,670 --> 00:38:50,910
there. Whoa. It's got pretty
much it's it's astonishing,

620
00:38:50,940 --> 00:38:55,500
isn't it? It's just I would say
it was more disgusted watching

621
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:59,100
this and anything else? A lot of
the big law firms in LA

622
00:38:59,220 --> 00:39:01,350
Adam Curry: know, huh, ovitz

623
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,670
John C Dvorak: Oh, hi. Hi. Up on
the thing. Of course. ovis I

624
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:09,810
think I think that what happened
to Pele kind of ruined over his

625
00:39:09,810 --> 00:39:14,310
career that oh, this was a big
part of it. And he was I think

626
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:15,690
CSEA

627
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:17,490
Adam Curry: Yeah, and he died
young.

628
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,400
John C Dvorak: He did. I don't
know what this is dead. No,

629
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,300
yeah. overdyed

630
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:22,920
Adam Curry: maybe 10 years ago.

631
00:39:24,510 --> 00:39:26,250
John C Dvorak: Michael Ovitz.
Yeah,

632
00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:28,200
Adam Curry: absolutely. You
know, I'll bring it up for you.

633
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:33,450
But allow me to consult the book
of knowledge. Michael Ovitz died

634
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:40,350
in well, he's not dead. No. I
thought he was dead. Am I think

635
00:39:40,350 --> 00:39:41,250
about someone else.

636
00:39:41,609 --> 00:39:43,349
John C Dvorak: I don't know who
you're thinking about. From

637
00:39:43,349 --> 00:39:43,889
Warren.

638
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,730
Adam Curry: I thought he was
dead. Maybe oh, maybe the

639
00:39:47,730 --> 00:39:48,510
uploaded him.

640
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,210
John C Dvorak: Anyway, he
recommended this documentary to

641
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:57,330
listeners and no agenda. You
admire it?

642
00:39:57,390 --> 00:39:59,610
Adam Curry: Yes. Why do you
think he was dead? Who was it

643
00:39:59,610 --> 00:40:05,310
that isn't Then well you know
he's dead and and I'll just I'll

644
00:40:05,310 --> 00:40:07,800
just mention this let me see if
I actually have it here and to

645
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:15,990
have a clip of this he Yeah,
this one here

646
00:40:16,770 --> 00:40:19,380
Unknown: this morning more
questions around the stabbing

647
00:40:19,380 --> 00:40:22,680
death of Bob Lee known as a
genius in the tech industry, the

648
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,290
founder of cash app and the
Chief Product Officer at

649
00:40:25,290 --> 00:40:28,920
cryptocurrency startup mobile
coin. The 43 year old was

650
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,370
apparently attacked around
2:30am Tuesday while walking

651
00:40:32,370 --> 00:40:35,760
down a street in San Francisco's
were in Caen Hill neighborhood,

652
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,840
an area described as residential
and typically quiet. A local

653
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,510
reporter says he viewed nearby
surveillance video of the

654
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sidewalk not yet made public. He
seems to live to shut

655
00:40:46,260 --> 00:40:51,180
up as he approaches a car that
is stopped on the corner with

656
00:40:51,180 --> 00:40:55,290
its flashers on the car then
drives away he falls to the

657
00:40:55,290 --> 00:41:00,090
ground. He gets up again and
then walks back on Main the way

658
00:41:00,090 --> 00:41:03,930
you came but on the other side
of the street and falls down he

659
00:41:03,930 --> 00:41:07,050
collapsed and died a short time
later Lee had moved his family

660
00:41:07,050 --> 00:41:10,110
to Miami but was in the Bay Area
on business

661
00:41:10,140 --> 00:41:13,230
actually live right where he got
killed. I used to walk there all

662
00:41:13,230 --> 00:41:16,500
the time at night and I did
started slowly playing Russian

663
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:16,950
my safe

664
00:41:16,980 --> 00:41:20,370
Elon Musk offer condolences
while commenting about crime

665
00:41:20,370 --> 00:41:23,940
tweeting many people I know have
been severely assaulted. Violent

666
00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:27,120
crime in San Francisco is
horrific. And even if attackers

667
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,180
are caught, they are often
released immediately. San

668
00:41:30,180 --> 00:41:33,990
Francisco's homicide rate is of
averaging five murders per month

669
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:37,740
in the last year 58 at all
compared to three murders per

670
00:41:37,740 --> 00:41:41,700
month in 2019. But that rate is
still far lower than other big

671
00:41:41,700 --> 00:41:45,090
cities. As for Bob Lee, his
friends are remembering not just

672
00:41:45,090 --> 00:41:48,270
his love for technology, but his
love for his family.

673
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:53,100
His dedication to his kids was
first and foremost. Bob was

674
00:41:53,460 --> 00:41:54,450
Father of the Year.

675
00:41:55,470 --> 00:41:58,620
Adam Curry: So what everyone's
talking about is how dangerous

676
00:41:58,620 --> 00:42:04,380
San Francisco is. Scott Adams
also posted a story like Oh, bye

677
00:42:04,380 --> 00:42:09,720
bye got mugged at knifepoint on
that same corner. I just want to

678
00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:12,510
put out there you know something
that I have not heard anyone

679
00:42:12,510 --> 00:42:16,290
even suggest as a possible idea
and hearing this clip it can be

680
00:42:16,350 --> 00:42:21,360
even more possible. He started
mobile coin which has real legs.

681
00:42:21,870 --> 00:42:25,320
The mobile coin was big. It's
integrated in signal. It's a

682
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,710
proof of work base
cryptocurrency. I'm not a fan,

683
00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:33,060
but it definitely had rollout.
But how about murder? Anyone

684
00:42:33,060 --> 00:42:37,230
think of that? I did. Well, good
because to me that sounds like

685
00:42:37,230 --> 00:42:39,090
John C Dvorak: first thing I
thought of I thought he would I

686
00:42:39,090 --> 00:42:42,450
thought it sounded like a hit.
He was out here from and a guy

687
00:42:42,450 --> 00:42:47,100
who is in tech living in Miami.
You know that says to me, you

688
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:51,300
know that is abnormal? Yep. You
don't if you're in tech, you

689
00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:56,580
don't live in Miami. Nope.
That's it. That's you know, you

690
00:42:56,610 --> 00:42:57,060
know,

691
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,500
Adam Curry: I think it was a
possible hit,

692
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:01,080
John C Dvorak: I think was a
hit. That's what I thought when

693
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,870
I first heard about it. I never
heard of this guy by the way.

694
00:43:03,870 --> 00:43:07,560
You know, I guess he's some, but
I was not in ever involved in

695
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,700
that part of tech.

696
00:43:08,730 --> 00:43:12,450
Adam Curry: No. No, I mean,
either. I just know about mobile

697
00:43:12,450 --> 00:43:16,320
coin, and that he started Cash
App, which is huge, of course.

698
00:43:16,830 --> 00:43:22,020
And he was I was part of the
square and by coincidence, I'm

699
00:43:22,020 --> 00:43:25,830
not implying anything other than
by coincidence. Elon Musk

700
00:43:25,830 --> 00:43:28,740
finally does what I said he
would do is he's ruined Twitter.

701
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,650
And he has that stupid dose dog
popping up.

702
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,330
John C Dvorak: I gotta kick it a
dog. Like you dog by the way.

703
00:43:36,359 --> 00:43:39,089
Adam Curry: It's a shitty dog.
No one likes that dog. It's not

704
00:43:39,089 --> 00:43:41,579
a cute dog as an annoying dog.
It's true. According

705
00:43:41,580 --> 00:43:44,550
John C Dvorak: to Jay there, she
knows what dog that is. She's

706
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:49,500
the dog expert. It says she used
to call the shitty dog she says

707
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:53,700
that is indeed a shitty dog. Oh
do tell the dog actually.

708
00:43:54,060 --> 00:43:56,730
According to her and she knows
all these breeds because she was

709
00:43:56,730 --> 00:44:01,770
a dog walker for years. She says
the dog nobody likes that kind

710
00:44:01,770 --> 00:44:05,370
of dog. It's a she told me that
breed I forgot what it is she

711
00:44:07,530 --> 00:44:12,060
she says it and she says it has
the personality of a cat is not

712
00:44:12,060 --> 00:44:14,940
a loving dog. It's not a
friendly dog. It doesn't like

713
00:44:14,940 --> 00:44:16,590
other dogs. It's a horrible dog

714
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,980
Adam Curry: I'm glad we have
that information. It's good to

715
00:44:22,980 --> 00:44:26,460
know well there you go. That dog
is triggering to me. I literally

716
00:44:26,460 --> 00:44:29,820
go on Twitter less because every
single time I go there I get a

717
00:44:29,820 --> 00:44:34,920
full screen flash black with the
with that dog. Yeah, and I don't

718
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,460
know about you. But since April
1 When you supposedly we all had

719
00:44:38,460 --> 00:44:41,880
to pay for Twitter blue, which I
never had wouldn't I don't have

720
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,280
a blue checkmark. You have it
didn't have to. He didn't take

721
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:50,430
it away. That was a lie. Still
there but I have sedang which by

722
00:44:50,430 --> 00:44:53,610
the way it was there after I got
the threat. Yes, that's what I'm

723
00:44:53,610 --> 00:44:57,180
saying. It's still there was
supposed to be gone April 1, but

724
00:44:57,180 --> 00:45:02,130
I have significantly less
engaged judgement. On Twitter.

725
00:45:02,850 --> 00:45:08,040
I'm getting much less people
sending me stuff or feeding back

726
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,850
or if I tweet something or
answer something, I get nothing.

727
00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:16,230
So it's ruined it, you know, and
I'm not gonna pay seven. I'm not

728
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:19,830
gonna pay anything. But I think
I kind of predicted he would

729
00:45:19,830 --> 00:45:24,450
ruin it. I don't know if you're
seeing that or you don't care,

730
00:45:24,450 --> 00:45:26,760
right? You don't you don't use
it except to promote stuff. So

731
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,950
you don't see much else at all.
Anyway,

732
00:45:29,250 --> 00:45:32,730
John C Dvorak: trim put a tweet
up once I retweet something

733
00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:34,740
occasionally, but they will take
it down. Do you?

734
00:45:35,310 --> 00:45:37,920
Adam Curry: Do you feel any less
engagement or you haven't

735
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:38,190
noticed?

736
00:45:38,670 --> 00:45:41,340
John C Dvorak: Any engagement
dropped off? Five, six years

737
00:45:41,340 --> 00:45:41,670
ago?

738
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,330
Adam Curry: Okay. All right.
Well, that's pre I did

739
00:45:45,330 --> 00:45:49,980
John C Dvorak: a I did testing
and it was like, it was dropped

740
00:45:49,980 --> 00:45:52,770
way off when it when I first
went, I had like 10,000

741
00:45:52,770 --> 00:45:58,920
followers very early on. I would
get engagement, I would ask for

742
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,960
something and I get it right
after getting to 100,000. It's

743
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:08,700
like 1/10 of what it was at
10,000. Interesting. And I find

744
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:10,440
that was started a long time
ago.

745
00:46:11,550 --> 00:46:13,230
Adam Curry: Well, in the
backdrop of this, there's a lot

746
00:46:13,230 --> 00:46:17,130
of fear mongering going on. Oh
my goodness. Oh, the. We even

747
00:46:17,130 --> 00:46:21,930
had Crowley, the Assistant
Secretary of State PR

748
00:46:21,930 --> 00:46:25,980
department, talking about how
the cbdc is coming. The dollar

749
00:46:25,980 --> 00:46:30,180
is gonna go away. It's all over.
And right on cue. Here's Marco

750
00:46:30,180 --> 00:46:34,260
Rubio intelligence Senate
Intelligence Committee, big war

751
00:46:34,260 --> 00:46:39,750
monger, big military industrial
complex guy today.

752
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,540
Unknown: Brazil, in our
hemisphere, largest country in

753
00:46:42,540 --> 00:46:45,840
the Western Hemisphere south of
us cut a trade deal with China.

754
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,480
They're going to from now on do
trade in their own currencies

755
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,130
get right around the dollar
stop.

756
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:57,960
John C Dvorak: Wait, you mean
Brazil of BRICS? Yes. Brazil,

757
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:06,240
Russia, Russia, India, China,
and South Africa? Yes. So so. So

758
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:10,260
this bricks, which has been
around for what a decade, which

759
00:47:10,260 --> 00:47:12,930
means they've been doing these
deals all along. This is new to

760
00:47:12,930 --> 00:47:13,440
him?

761
00:47:13,470 --> 00:47:16,020
Adam Curry: Well, this is the
anti China. This is the by the

762
00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:17,760
way, he's not talking about
Ukraine,

763
00:47:17,850 --> 00:47:19,980
Unknown: cut a trade deal with
China, they're going to from now

764
00:47:19,980 --> 00:47:22,620
on do trade in their own
currencies get right around the

765
00:47:22,620 --> 00:47:26,490
dollar. They're creating a
secondary economy in the world,

766
00:47:26,490 --> 00:47:29,220
totally independent of the
United States, we won't have

767
00:47:29,580 --> 00:47:32,220
about sanctions in five years,
because there'll be so many

768
00:47:32,220 --> 00:47:34,260
countries transacting and
currencies other than the

769
00:47:34,260 --> 00:47:38,070
dollar, that we won't have the
ability to sanction them, as we

770
00:47:38,070 --> 00:47:39,990
are sitting here, you know,
focused on some of these

771
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:42,480
nuttiness that's going on people
that are basically dedicating

772
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,570
their lives in this country, to
ensuring that it is legal to

773
00:47:45,570 --> 00:47:49,440
mutilate children to do drag
shares in schools. They dedicate

774
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,130
their lives to this, and we have
a another superpower that

775
00:47:53,130 --> 00:47:55,980
basically wants to become the
world's dominant power at our

776
00:47:55,980 --> 00:47:59,040
expense. And these people don't
want to focus on it. They're,

777
00:47:59,070 --> 00:48:02,130
you know, we had some person on
the view yesterday say that our

778
00:48:02,130 --> 00:48:05,220
criminal justice system is no
better than what China is doing

779
00:48:05,220 --> 00:48:08,580
with its genocide of Uighur
Muslims. So we better wake up

780
00:48:08,580 --> 00:48:11,100
but we're going a little slower
than the one we've been used to.

781
00:48:11,130 --> 00:48:12,780
Adam Curry: Well, I better start
watching the view. They said

782
00:48:12,780 --> 00:48:14,700
something smart. Finally, it was
crazy.

783
00:48:14,730 --> 00:48:16,050
John C Dvorak: So all over the
road.

784
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,780
Adam Curry: I don't know that. I
mean, yes, of course, bricks.

785
00:48:21,780 --> 00:48:25,560
We've been talking about bricks
for a decade, at least. But but

786
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,260
it is it does. It does
apparently seem to be true that

787
00:48:28,590 --> 00:48:32,130
that sort of that we've lost
control of Saudi Arabia, and

788
00:48:32,130 --> 00:48:33,390
right at the moment when

789
00:48:33,420 --> 00:48:36,660
John C Dvorak: we thank you, Joe
Biden, who went out and condemn

790
00:48:36,660 --> 00:48:39,750
the guy running in a place when
he ran for office?

791
00:48:39,780 --> 00:48:44,100
Adam Curry: Well, exactly. And
then I fully expect I think, I

792
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:52,410
think that that we started
taking whatever's left in our

793
00:48:52,410 --> 00:48:59,850
strategic petroleum reserve. And
and because of that, Saudi

794
00:48:59,850 --> 00:49:03,030
Arabia and perhaps other OPEC
countries said, oh, you know

795
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:06,360
what, we're just gonna, we're
gonna stop producing as much

796
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,290
we're going to make sure that
the oil price goes higher. And

797
00:49:10,380 --> 00:49:13,710
and now we don't even have much
of our strategic reserve left.

798
00:49:13,890 --> 00:49:17,700
And then the funniest thing did
you see the Prime Minister of

799
00:49:17,700 --> 00:49:22,170
Japan visiting with Zelinsky?
No, I didn't know much. Oh,

800
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,230
everyone, if so that he goes to
the season lands, he's got to

801
00:49:25,260 --> 00:49:28,410
know the equivalent of a big
check. Oh, look, it goes.

802
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,170
John C Dvorak: He goes to
Ukraine. Yeah, he goes to

803
00:49:31,170 --> 00:49:33,300
Adam Curry: the train he meets
with the Lansky gives him the

804
00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:37,500
envelope. Yeah, it should have
had the big clearing publishers

805
00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:43,110
house. Check. Look at all this
I'm giving to you. I love you.

806
00:49:43,110 --> 00:49:46,260
I'm giving this to you. Because
while we were gonna buy oil from

807
00:49:46,260 --> 00:49:46,680
Russia,

808
00:49:46,770 --> 00:49:49,200
Unknown: Japan is distancing
itself from the United States

809
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,350
and the European Union and it's
buying Russian oil above the 60

810
00:49:52,350 --> 00:49:55,380
US dollar per barrel. That's
December the European Union, the

811
00:49:55,380 --> 00:49:57,750
United States agreed to set a
limit on the price of Russian

812
00:49:57,780 --> 00:50:01,890
oil as $60 per barrel. is backed
still in force is part of the

813
00:50:01,890 --> 00:50:05,250
retaliation against Moscow for
the Ukrainian conflict, also

814
00:50:05,250 --> 00:50:09,030
agreed by the g7 countries
including Japan. Barely four

815
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:11,730
months after this agreement. The
Wall Street Journal reports that

816
00:50:11,730 --> 00:50:14,760
Japan broke this agreement and
began to buy Russian oil above

817
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,060
the limit of $60 per barrel.
While this is happening at a

818
00:50:18,060 --> 00:50:21,210
time when Russia is redirecting
its exports to Asia to

819
00:50:21,210 --> 00:50:24,270
counteract the sanctions
imposed. This scenario coincides

820
00:50:24,270 --> 00:50:27,330
with another delicate moment. So
several countries have the

821
00:50:27,330 --> 00:50:30,660
Organization of Petroleum
Exporting Countries announced

822
00:50:30,660 --> 00:50:34,500
last Sunday unexpected voluntary
cuts in their production and

823
00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:36,210
withdraw crude oil from the
market.

824
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:42,930
Adam Curry: So our friends, our
buddies, Japan said, yeah, no,

825
00:50:42,930 --> 00:50:46,050
it's okay Joe, but we're gonna
go buy Russian oil above the $60

826
00:50:46,050 --> 00:50:49,950
proposed limit. What is going on
with these people are morons.

827
00:50:50,460 --> 00:50:55,950
They're really stupid. Well, who
listen to by 70s Oh, no, no,

828
00:50:55,950 --> 00:50:59,910
Biden, and Obama, whoever's
running all that show. They're

829
00:50:59,910 --> 00:51:00,630
nuts.

830
00:51:01,770 --> 00:51:03,930
John C Dvorak: They're doing a
poor job. Let's put it that way.

831
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,930
I got a thing here about bricks.
This is interesting. Bricks,

832
00:51:06,930 --> 00:51:09,870
which is the acronym it was
originally brick and in South

833
00:51:09,870 --> 00:51:16,110
Africa in 2010. This became this
started in 2001. And who coined

834
00:51:16,110 --> 00:51:19,470
the term where did it come from?
Kind of stormy day Goldman

835
00:51:19,470 --> 00:51:20,220
Sachs. I'm

836
00:51:20,220 --> 00:51:21,600
Adam Curry: sorry, I thought was
stormy Daniels?

837
00:51:22,620 --> 00:51:25,080
John C Dvorak: No, it was
Goldman same thing. Goldman

838
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,910
Sachs economist Jim O'Neill

839
00:51:29,460 --> 00:51:31,140
Adam Curry: is there a clip I'm
supposed to play here?

840
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,330
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm just
reading from them. You wiki

841
00:51:33,330 --> 00:51:37,260
page. I was looking when When
did bricks show up as in 2001.

842
00:51:38,220 --> 00:51:41,100
Adam Curry: Now it doesn't
surprise me. And by the way, we

843
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:44,670
had I think the EU was also
walking away from us. I'm gonna

844
00:51:44,670 --> 00:51:50,550
see I don't know if I have a
clip. We had Ursula, Queen

845
00:51:50,580 --> 00:51:55,890
Ursula and McCrone visiting in
China.

846
00:51:56,310 --> 00:52:00,210
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yes. I
didn't know I was not under the

847
00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:01,890
impression that Ursula went

848
00:52:02,010 --> 00:52:04,770
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. No, they
went together. They went

849
00:52:04,770 --> 00:52:10,320
together. Sure. Yes. Okay. Yeah,
definitely. I think they

850
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:15,960
actually went together let me
see I don't have my I don't have

851
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:21,750
a clip of it. But I mean, I'm so
after the after those two

852
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:25,440
Russian guys hoax to Fifi
Lagarde. That's when I knew that

853
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,740
all these people are stupid.
They don't know anything.

854
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:40,080
They're just complete dumb. So
there you go. Do I have it here?

855
00:52:40,110 --> 00:52:43,170
Oh, here's the OPEC maybe. See
with this

856
00:52:43,230 --> 00:52:45,270
Unknown: oil prices have been
rising overnight after a

857
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:48,330
surprise decision by OPEC to cut
production that could mean

858
00:52:48,330 --> 00:52:51,870
higher gas prices are on the
way. OPEC plus which includes

859
00:52:51,870 --> 00:52:54,990
Saudi Arabia and Russia is
slashing production by more than

860
00:52:54,990 --> 00:52:58,230
a million barrels per day until
the end of the year. Saudi

861
00:52:58,230 --> 00:53:01,500
officials say the cut is to
stabilize the market. Gas prices

862
00:53:01,500 --> 00:53:04,590
have already been rising at the
pump up 13 cents in the last

863
00:53:04,590 --> 00:53:07,200
month. The White House is
pushing back on the OPEC cuts

864
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,620
saying we don't think cuts are
advisable at this moment given

865
00:53:10,620 --> 00:53:14,070
market uncertainty. Oil prices
fell last month during the chaos

866
00:53:14,070 --> 00:53:17,430
in the banking industry. But now
after the cuts by OPEC analysts

867
00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:20,640
say we could see $100 A barrel
by next year.

868
00:53:21,060 --> 00:53:23,550
Adam Curry: hears from
Bloomberg. I don't know if

869
00:53:23,550 --> 00:53:25,320
that's what do you think? Well,
that happened? I mean, it could

870
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,160
happen. I guess they

871
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,980
John C Dvorak: always push this
idea 100 We've heard a lot it's

872
00:53:28,980 --> 00:53:32,010
always been well, with Biden in
office anything's possible.

873
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,860
Adam Curry: French President
Emmanuel Macron and European

874
00:53:34,860 --> 00:53:37,860
Commission president Ursula von
der Leyen are in China. This is

875
00:53:37,860 --> 00:53:40,320
Bloomberg we need to track quote
we need to try to engage with

876
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,930
China strategically and speak
with him directly about this

877
00:53:42,930 --> 00:53:45,360
Russian aggression and the
consequences for Europe McCrone

878
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,060
said in his speech at the French
Embassy a day before meeting

879
00:53:48,180 --> 00:53:53,400
Chinese president Zhi Jing ping,
which may be today. So this is

880
00:53:53,460 --> 00:54:00,600
this is the EU meaning with our
arch enemy. How does that work?

881
00:54:00,690 --> 00:54:01,680
And what you don't have to

882
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,290
John C Dvorak: do how do we do
trading with our arch enemy to

883
00:54:04,290 --> 00:54:08,820
the extent that we're still
taking a beating? Well, I don't

884
00:54:08,820 --> 00:54:12,630
know what kind of arch enemy is
China when we get most of the

885
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:15,780
stuff that you buy at the store
from China tick

886
00:54:15,780 --> 00:54:20,220
Adam Curry: tock, man tick tock,
tick tock. You know what's going

887
00:54:20,220 --> 00:54:25,560
on is tick tock man. They're
spying on our children. The

888
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,980
funniest to head would head
funniest to headline somebody

889
00:54:28,980 --> 00:54:32,010
asked who was the funniest two
headlines? I'm gonna say Do I

890
00:54:32,010 --> 00:54:35,100
have a tick? Thomas, you do have
a tick tock clip because there's

891
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:39,120
so much to talk about. Sales of
tick tock owner bytedance up

892
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:44,670
over 30% in 2022 to reach $80
billion in revenue matching,

893
00:54:44,970 --> 00:54:52,110
matching 10 cents revenue. And,
in fact the article it's site.

894
00:54:52,350 --> 00:54:57,660
It says that double digit growth
revealed in a recent memo to

895
00:54:57,660 --> 00:55:01,230
investors topped most global
internet leaders including meta

896
00:55:01,230 --> 00:55:07,320
platforms and Amazon. Yeah. So
hello, this this.

897
00:55:08,670 --> 00:55:10,890
John C Dvorak: The problem I
have with just do it this number

898
00:55:10,890 --> 00:55:14,160
is since tick tock is
international and China is a

899
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,990
huge market. Yeah. They don't
break out to 80 billion. They

900
00:55:18,990 --> 00:55:22,440
have to tell us how much of that
80 billion is American revenue.

901
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,570
That way we can see what is
really

902
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,560
Adam Curry: I'm with you, but it
does come back to back with this

903
00:55:28,650 --> 00:55:35,040
article from CNBC. As Chief
Financial Officer of Google Ruth

904
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:42,240
Porat, the kicked off multi year
employee service cuts we are big

905
00:55:42,270 --> 00:55:45,090
these are big multi year
efforts. She said our company

906
00:55:45,090 --> 00:55:49,440
wide okay are on durable savings
which okay our mean? What's that

907
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,130
acronym? Mean?

908
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,330
John C Dvorak: I have no idea.

909
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:56,430
Adam Curry: They are cutting
muffins on Monday. There I'm not

910
00:55:56,430 --> 00:55:57,780
kidding. This is in the car. He

911
00:55:57,780 --> 00:55:59,910
John C Dvorak: does say that.
Really? You know, they cut him

912
00:55:59,910 --> 00:56:02,700
they've cut muffins, but usually
on Monday.

913
00:56:02,910 --> 00:56:04,950
Adam Curry: Well, Mondays they
would they were they were making

914
00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:08,490
too many muffins on Monday. We
literally says in the article.

915
00:56:08,490 --> 00:56:14,130
We've baked too many muffins on
Monday. Which and my favorite is

916
00:56:14,310 --> 00:56:16,470
no more personal staplers.

917
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,590
John C Dvorak: Yes, the state
which actually Horowitz and I

918
00:56:19,590 --> 00:56:23,250
talked about this on VHS like
and the stapler thing kept

919
00:56:23,250 --> 00:56:27,180
cropping up and we're both what
do they use staplers for in a

920
00:56:27,180 --> 00:56:32,220
paperless office? A? And how
many staples do they need most?

921
00:56:32,910 --> 00:56:35,340
And why do you have to cut back
as they keep buying more and

922
00:56:35,340 --> 00:56:37,980
more staplers? I mean, what is
somebody selling him on the

923
00:56:37,980 --> 00:56:40,530
side? What was the deal with
these staplers?

924
00:56:41,310 --> 00:56:46,200
Adam Curry: Well, what really
needs to happen is issues these

925
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:50,670
are mostly minor adjustments.
But she says now that most of us

926
00:56:50,670 --> 00:56:53,970
are in office three days a week
we've noticed our supply demand

927
00:56:53,970 --> 00:56:57,090
ratios are a bit out of sync we
bake too many muffins on Monday,

928
00:56:57,270 --> 00:57:03,960
we sit CMBC I can't believe she
said this out loud. We've seen

929
00:57:04,020 --> 00:57:07,290
Google buses run with just one
passenger and offered yoga

930
00:57:07,290 --> 00:57:10,620
classes on a Friday afternoon
when folks are more likely to be

931
00:57:10,620 --> 00:57:14,670
working home as a result we may
close cafes on Mondays and

932
00:57:14,670 --> 00:57:16,680
Fridays and shut down some
facilities that are

933
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:21,960
underutilized How bad is it when
you have to do this? Well really

934
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:27,360
it comes down to this this year
one this is an email from her

935
00:57:27,390 --> 00:57:30,540
this year one of our important
company OKRs shown with that is

936
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,510
it's delivered durable savings
through improved velocity and

937
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:36,150
efficiency all pas and functions
were Wait

938
00:57:37,290 --> 00:57:38,520
John C Dvorak: What's velocity

939
00:57:39,330 --> 00:57:41,730
Adam Curry: spending money to
fast the way

940
00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:44,250
John C Dvorak: to improve you
when you start hearing the I've

941
00:57:44,250 --> 00:57:47,010
got actually some clips with
guys like this yak and because

942
00:57:47,010 --> 00:57:50,460
it's their AI clips. These guys
are talking through their hats

943
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,880
did just use the word velocity
what does it mean?

944
00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:56,430
Adam Curry: Well, I think you're
onto something because the in

945
00:57:56,430 --> 00:58:00,030
the same paragraph let me finish
it out through improve velocity

946
00:58:00,030 --> 00:58:03,750
and efficiency all pas whatever
that is and functions are

947
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:08,010
working toward this velocity and
efficiency Googlers have at

948
00:58:08,010 --> 00:58:09,780
that's an almost sounds like
something you take out of your

949
00:58:09,780 --> 00:58:13,320
nose like a booger. Googlers
have asked for more detail. So

950
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,310
we're sharing more information
below. This work is particularly

951
00:58:17,310 --> 00:58:21,870
vital because of our recent
growth. The challenging economic

952
00:58:21,870 --> 00:58:25,380
environment tick tock and our
incredible investment

953
00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:29,340
opportunities to drive
technology forward particularly

954
00:58:29,340 --> 00:58:35,670
in AI. We improve machine
utilization narrowed our real

955
00:58:35,670 --> 00:58:38,820
estate investment tightened our
belt on travel and entertainment

956
00:58:38,820 --> 00:58:42,660
budgets, cafes, micro kitchens,
and mobile phone usage and

957
00:58:42,660 --> 00:58:44,940
remove the hybrid vehicle
subsidy.

958
00:58:45,780 --> 00:58:49,080
John C Dvorak: With mobile phone
usage, you're using your flat

959
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:49,950
fee per month

960
00:58:49,950 --> 00:58:52,260
Adam Curry: now. That means
they're taking them away and

961
00:58:52,290 --> 00:58:54,360
you'll have to keep your laptop
longer, you don't get a new

962
00:58:54,360 --> 00:59:00,090
laptop as soon we've removed the
hybrid vehicle subsidy, burn

963
00:59:00,090 --> 00:59:05,160
gas. Since then, we've continued
to rebalance based on data about

964
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:09,690
how programs and services are
being used. We focused on

965
00:59:09,690 --> 00:59:13,290
distributing our compute
workloads even more efficiently.

966
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,300
Getting more of our servers and
getting more out of our servers

967
00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:21,210
and data centers. We've already
made progress with these efforts

968
00:59:21,210 --> 00:59:24,630
and will continue to drive
efficiencies. This work adds up

969
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:27,510
to edge adds up given
infrastructure is one of our

970
00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:31,590
largest areas of investment. And
here it is, as we apply our

971
00:59:31,590 --> 00:59:35,190
efficient and well tuned
infrastructure and software to

972
00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:38,550
machine learning. We're
continuing to discover more

973
00:59:38,550 --> 00:59:43,080
scalable and efficient ways to
train and serve models. They're

974
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:47,250
so all in on this AI bullcrap
it's bankrupting them, and they

975
00:59:47,250 --> 00:59:51,780
do not have a revenue model for
it. No one's going to pay for

976
00:59:51,780 --> 00:59:56,760
this junk. I think they're lost.
I think this they're in huge

977
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:57,420
trouble.

978
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,100
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
know how much trouble they're in

979
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:04,740
there get revenues that are
unbelievable even if they

980
01:00:04,740 --> 01:00:05,970
dropped by half.

981
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,700
Adam Curry: Well, it sounds to
me like they're, they say we've

982
01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:12,690
been here before backscene play
key we've yes, we've been here

983
01:00:12,690 --> 01:00:17,280
before. I'm quoting back in 2008
our expenses were growing faster

984
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,340
than our revenue. So that's
clearly what's happening right

985
01:00:20,340 --> 01:00:25,020
now. Expenses are higher or
growing faster as code for

986
01:00:25,020 --> 01:00:30,000
higher faster than our revenue.
Because they're all in on this

987
01:00:30,030 --> 01:00:33,420
oh ay ay ay ay Google bar
doesn't work. Oh, how are we

988
01:00:33,420 --> 01:00:36,120
gonna? We got to charge people
for it. No one's gonna pay

989
01:00:38,190 --> 01:00:41,790
nobody All right, you got let's
do some let's do some AI clips.

990
01:00:41,790 --> 01:00:46,050
And before we do that, the Adam
curry no agenda Turing test of

991
01:00:46,050 --> 01:00:48,480
this bull crap. Do you remember
what it is?

992
01:00:50,430 --> 01:00:53,190
John C Dvorak: No, yeah, you
did? Well, well, you know what a

993
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:56,520
Turing test is which is the
ability of a computer to emulate

994
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,730
a human to such an extreme that
no one can tell. Right? Right.

995
01:00:59,730 --> 01:01:04,980
And you have made the, the
assertion that under all

996
01:01:04,980 --> 01:01:11,520
circumstances where there is
written, draw drawed or spoken

997
01:01:11,550 --> 01:01:15,630
that you can always spot it. Yo,
you are the Turing test. No.

998
01:01:15,870 --> 01:01:21,060
Adam Curry: Incorrect. Turing
test was the first AI AGI by the

999
01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:23,970
way listen, watch. Say it right.
AGI is the way all the cool kids

1000
01:01:23,970 --> 01:01:29,940
are saying it was AGI artificial
generated intelligence. All the

1001
01:01:29,940 --> 01:01:30,720
cool cars never

1002
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,580
John C Dvorak: heard this. I
know you will. I'm not a cool

1003
01:01:32,580 --> 01:01:33,630
kid. So there's that.

1004
01:01:33,930 --> 01:01:35,700
Adam Curry: Hey, by the way,
man, happy birthday.

1005
01:01:36,180 --> 01:01:38,940
John C Dvorak: Thank you. Thank
you. And thanks. So the people I

1006
01:01:38,940 --> 01:01:43,860
got a lot of people that donated
the $71 necessary to appease the

1007
01:01:43,980 --> 01:01:46,650
constant complaining about our
donations. Yeah, that

1008
01:01:46,710 --> 01:01:50,490
Adam Curry: that worked out well
for you. It did. Yes. So no, my

1009
01:01:50,490 --> 01:01:56,940
Turing test for this AGI is can
you have any type of AGI machine

1010
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:04,230
create an audio file that that
replicates President Trump? And

1011
01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:08,880
I said, No one can do it cannot
be done. Yeah. And we

1012
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,670
John C Dvorak: got it. We got a
copy of one from one of our

1013
01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:14,070
producers and he won't say where
it came from.

1014
01:02:14,100 --> 01:02:16,260
Adam Curry: No, listen to this
genius one.

1015
01:02:16,290 --> 01:02:19,680
Unknown: I hear good things
about Adam curry. Nice guy. Good

1016
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:24,360
guy created podcasts. Wonderful
thing. He's a funny guy. But his

1017
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,910
co host, John C. Dvorak is
funnier. No,

1018
01:02:26,940 --> 01:02:31,380
Adam Curry: this is not even
close. You think this was good?

1019
01:02:31,980 --> 01:02:34,200
John C Dvorak: They got to
cadence down a little bit at the

1020
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:39,120
beginning, very little bit, but
a little bit and the rest, but

1021
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,130
it falls apart. At the end.
We're just going to sound like

1022
01:02:41,130 --> 01:02:44,130
the same guy. The beginning guy
doesn't suddenly forget the end.

1023
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,040
Adam Curry: But it's also it's
not how he sounds. It's what

1024
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,530
he's saying. Trump would never
say this.

1025
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,080
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
always going to be the case.

1026
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,260
Thank you. I don't know if
anybody can find this. But

1027
01:02:55,260 --> 01:03:01,200
somebody did send a copy to me,
which is Jamie Foxx.

1028
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,230
Adam Curry: Yeah, I didn't even
want to play that. It was so

1029
01:03:04,230 --> 01:03:04,770
bad.

1030
01:03:05,580 --> 01:03:07,530
John C Dvorak: Well, I thought
it was interesting. I thought it

1031
01:03:07,530 --> 01:03:11,520
was good. Really? And I thought
what was interesting is he's the

1032
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:16,140
only guy I've heard so far that
does both this the quiet Trump

1033
01:03:16,140 --> 01:03:20,070
and the yelling Trump. Okay,
well, I'd have as he does the

1034
01:03:20,070 --> 01:03:23,850
yelling Trump at the end. Even
though the the mic it down so

1035
01:03:23,850 --> 01:03:26,850
you can barely hear it. But that
yelling Trump I think is the

1036
01:03:26,850 --> 01:03:32,640
harder Trump to do. She was just
too long to play. It's pretty

1037
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:33,240
long.

1038
01:03:34,140 --> 01:03:35,460
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah,

1039
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:36,810
John C Dvorak: I hear that
people go look it up.

1040
01:03:37,379 --> 01:03:39,209
Adam Curry: I can just play a
little bit of a just so you can

1041
01:03:39,209 --> 01:03:44,369
hear and it works for like a
little bit. Just but it remember

1042
01:03:44,369 --> 01:03:47,819
you have to sustain this. And
has to be the type of jokes you

1043
01:03:47,819 --> 01:03:51,089
would make. It has to be the
cadence you would have. I mean,

1044
01:03:51,089 --> 01:03:53,459
nothing is like okay, yeah,
right. I mean, people can

1045
01:03:53,459 --> 01:03:55,859
impersonate I'm sure lots of
stuff sounded great.

1046
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,310
Unknown: I know area he's a
great person. He couldn't vote

1047
01:04:02,310 --> 01:04:05,310
for me at the time. Now they can
vote to me once he gets out. I

1048
01:04:05,310 --> 01:04:07,890
love Snoop D O double check
brake pads. So do you love them?

1049
01:04:09,420 --> 01:04:11,790
I love Excuse me, excuse me.

1050
01:04:12,510 --> 01:04:15,030
Adam Curry: That's what
comedians will use the always an

1051
01:04:15,030 --> 01:04:18,090
actor's will use something they
can replicate with Excuse me,

1052
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:22,470
excuse me. Almost anybody can do
it now but there's no AI This is

1053
01:04:22,470 --> 01:04:27,810
Jamie Foxx is not AI. I never
said it was a no I know. I'm

1054
01:04:27,810 --> 01:04:32,130
just saying that until someone
fools me with a Donald Trump

1055
01:04:32,340 --> 01:04:36,480
audio bite doesn't have to be
video even. It's not there.

1056
01:04:37,260 --> 01:04:38,460
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, we're
waiting.

1057
01:04:40,050 --> 01:04:42,420
Adam Curry: Are you all in on
this? You believe this stuff is?

1058
01:04:42,450 --> 01:04:44,520
I mean, I thought we agreed that
this is bunk.

1059
01:04:45,300 --> 01:04:47,550
John C Dvorak: Expense never
said that. It was bunk guys.

1060
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,540
We're talking about trying to
copy somebody's voice. I think

1061
01:04:51,540 --> 01:04:54,570
that I said that overtime. I
think it can be accomplished.

1062
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,720
You might be right about the
content might never be what the

1063
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,570
person would do, but that's
always going to be The case?

1064
01:05:00,660 --> 01:05:04,470
Well, that's the idea. The idea
is to duplicate somebody's voice

1065
01:05:04,470 --> 01:05:07,410
so perfectly, and the content
would be something that would

1066
01:05:07,410 --> 01:05:11,790
get started World war three. So
that content is still the issue.

1067
01:05:11,820 --> 01:05:11,970
Yeah,

1068
01:05:12,060 --> 01:05:15,420
Adam Curry: exactly. So that's
why I'm saying AI AGI is just

1069
01:05:15,420 --> 01:05:20,640
not going to happen. It's not
going to world AGI. Okay, you'll

1070
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,530
hear it everywhere. Yeah.

1071
01:05:23,790 --> 01:05:25,830
John C Dvorak: Well, you don't
hear it in this report. And this

1072
01:05:25,830 --> 01:05:32,040
is the this is the AI meta one.
We start with these clips. And

1073
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:37,470
then there's a lot. There's
12356 clips here, but not all of

1074
01:05:37,470 --> 01:05:39,780
them are very long. Let's go
with this.

1075
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,240
Unknown: Facebook parents
company Mehta released a new

1076
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:46,290
artificial intelligence model
today. It's called the segment

1077
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,700
anything Model or SAM. It can
pick out objects and outline

1078
01:05:50,700 --> 01:05:55,170
them in images and videos, can
also pick out items outside of

1079
01:05:55,170 --> 01:05:58,920
its training. Objects can be
selected by clicking on them or

1080
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,400
writing a text prompt. In one
demonstration, writing the word

1081
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,090
cat prompted the tool to draw
boxes around each of several

1082
01:06:06,090 --> 01:06:10,110
cats in a photo chief executives
Mark Zuckerberg that

1083
01:06:10,110 --> 01:06:13,380
incorporating generative AI is a
priority for the company this

1084
01:06:13,380 --> 01:06:13,620
year.

1085
01:06:14,009 --> 01:06:16,559
Adam Curry: Did he say
generative AI? Yeah, that's

1086
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:20,970
John C Dvorak: what he said.
Interesting now. Now, okay, this

1087
01:06:20,970 --> 01:06:26,010
is the premise of these clips,
meta has determined that if you

1088
01:06:26,010 --> 01:06:29,670
could draw a box around a cat
and call it a cat, it could find

1089
01:06:29,670 --> 01:06:33,390
other cats in a picture. All
right. Now, I don't know that

1090
01:06:33,390 --> 01:06:38,070
this is that new. But they think
it's a big deal. So they're

1091
01:06:38,070 --> 01:06:40,710
bringing, they're gonna bring a
guy on to talk about this. And

1092
01:06:40,710 --> 01:06:43,830
this is one of those guys. And
I'll use the phrase again, who

1093
01:06:43,830 --> 01:06:47,190
talks through his hat, he you
know, has all the buzzwords and

1094
01:06:47,190 --> 01:06:49,200
he makes it sound like he knows
what he's talking about. He

1095
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,290
doesn't know what's going on. He
doesn't have a clue. But he

1096
01:06:52,290 --> 01:06:56,100
can't really you know, indicate
that and actually say, I don't

1097
01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:59,820
know, it seems like bullshit to
me. Can't say that. So let's go

1098
01:06:59,820 --> 01:07:02,310
and we'll catch up with him in a
second is part two.

1099
01:07:02,370 --> 01:07:05,220
Unknown: Joining me now is Jake
may Mar VP of innovation, that

1100
01:07:05,220 --> 01:07:10,080
glimpse group. Now this new meta
AI model, it can identify

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01:07:10,110 --> 01:07:13,770
objects in an image. What is the
significance here?

1102
01:07:15,150 --> 01:07:19,800
Well, the biggest value is you
can search any image, any video,

1103
01:07:20,010 --> 01:07:24,330
any sort of spatial place. And
the reason why that's valuable

1104
01:07:24,330 --> 01:07:28,170
is just imagine, you know,
you're just like, looking at an

1105
01:07:28,170 --> 01:07:31,170
image. And of course, you can
see cats and you're like, Okay,

1106
01:07:31,170 --> 01:07:38,250
well, how is that valuable?
Because I do XR, I do. VR and AR

1107
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:42,390
enterprise solutions. The reason
why this is so valuable to me

1108
01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:45,210
is, if I have a headset, and I'm
looking around, it will

1109
01:07:45,210 --> 01:07:48,630
automatically know what those
objects are. So it will know

1110
01:07:48,630 --> 01:07:50,760
that's a phone, it will know
that the computer will know

1111
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,720
that's a chair, and because it
knows that there's all these

1112
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,690
sort of rules that were
automatically be associated with

1113
01:07:57,690 --> 01:08:02,550
it. So if it's a doughnut, I
know I can eat it. If it's a

1114
01:08:02,550 --> 01:08:05,580
phone, it will actually have
data on it. And if it's my

1115
01:08:05,580 --> 01:08:09,270
phone, it will actually have my
data on it. So there's all these

1116
01:08:09,270 --> 01:08:13,440
ways that it's going to be
basically creating a very

1117
01:08:13,500 --> 01:08:19,320
frictionless experience, where
you're going to be interacting

1118
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,050
with the virtual world in a very
intuitive way.

1119
01:08:22,290 --> 01:08:27,030
I see. I wonder if this is just
the beginning. I want to develop

1120
01:08:27,030 --> 01:08:29,940
into something even further
comment on that.

1121
01:08:29,970 --> 01:08:32,220
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, please
comment? Oh, absolutely.

1122
01:08:32,250 --> 01:08:36,090
Unknown: I think this is just
the beginning. I think that this

1123
01:08:36,090 --> 01:08:39,450
is the early building blocks of
where this language model was

1124
01:08:39,450 --> 01:08:42,870
gonna go. Right now they're
talking about images. Now.

1125
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:48,660
Really, I think that the real
use cases is spatial. And if you

1126
01:08:48,660 --> 01:08:53,790
can identify objects in space,
both both with AR so when

1127
01:08:53,790 --> 01:08:57,930
physical space and then also in
virtual space, you can assign

1128
01:08:57,930 --> 01:08:59,490
value to those objects.

1129
01:08:59,730 --> 01:09:01,890
Adam Curry: All right, may I
just explain what's going on

1130
01:09:01,890 --> 01:09:02,250
here?

1131
01:09:02,700 --> 01:09:05,310
John C Dvorak: Besides the total
bull crap, and I wanted to

1132
01:09:05,310 --> 01:09:07,710
before you explain, I want to
mention something for everyone

1133
01:09:07,710 --> 01:09:11,790
out there. When anyone says as
the way you pronounce it, when

1134
01:09:11,790 --> 01:09:17,850
anyone says because in this
exaggerated form, you know, that

1135
01:09:17,850 --> 01:09:20,850
is that is a tell for I'm full
of shit,

1136
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:25,710
Adam Curry: correct? Correct. So
the Glympse group, which is a

1137
01:09:25,710 --> 01:09:29,400
publicly listed company, I know
exactly what they do. Because a

1138
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,860
guy who I know pretty well I
would say is almost a friend

1139
01:09:31,860 --> 01:09:35,310
Joe, you toy. He has a company
that does this. He does it with

1140
01:09:35,310 --> 01:09:38,760
people in the Philippines. He
gives them an app and all day

1141
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,570
long. All they do is look at
pictures. And the picture shows

1142
01:09:42,570 --> 01:09:46,170
you a car and they do car and
then they get a micro payment.

1143
01:09:46,380 --> 01:09:50,010
Or the question may be is there
a man in this picture and

1144
01:09:50,010 --> 01:09:53,580
they'll show an image of a ring
cam and there's you know, maybe

1145
01:09:53,580 --> 01:09:57,330
there's a dog, no dog and they
get a little micro payment and

1146
01:09:57,330 --> 01:09:59,760
they do that all day long. Most
of this work of course is done

1147
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:04,860
in a India and these companies
train the large language model

1148
01:10:05,250 --> 01:10:10,500
all day long. That's what this
is. And it won't be perfected

1149
01:10:10,500 --> 01:10:14,670
until the all these Indians die.
They just have to keep doing it

1150
01:10:14,670 --> 01:10:17,490
forever this this is the
training that they're doing this

1151
01:10:17,490 --> 01:10:22,410
is this is the the incredible
smart work that this a G AI

1152
01:10:22,410 --> 01:10:25,170
which you said which I think is
very funny pronounced gay. I

1153
01:10:25,170 --> 01:10:30,600
think it's very interesting the
G AI that that they're training

1154
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,320
and this is Oh, and they can
recognize models. Why don't you

1155
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:39,030
just want just give give
everybody a Filipino? Connected

1156
01:10:39,030 --> 01:10:43,020
connected to your horse? You own
it or don't? Or donut? This is

1157
01:10:43,020 --> 01:10:45,600
dumb. This is a waste of money.
I hope it

1158
01:10:47,010 --> 01:10:50,430
John C Dvorak: when he talks
about that phone can be his

1159
01:10:50,430 --> 01:10:53,370
phone and then he knows it'll
have everything on the phone.

1160
01:10:53,700 --> 01:10:57,000
How would that you have to do
that by hand? i The phone

1161
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,820
doesn't automatically because
it's identified as your phone

1162
01:10:59,970 --> 01:11:04,020
become your phone? No. So let's
go to

1163
01:11:04,050 --> 01:11:06,390
Adam Curry: clip three we're
Luddites. Man, we're nothing but

1164
01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:07,170
Luddites.

1165
01:11:08,370 --> 01:11:11,040
Unknown: But it's that's the
starting point. But then you can

1166
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:16,650
also use like blockchain to
actually make those objects have

1167
01:11:16,650 --> 01:11:24,360
a specific value and have a
specific sort of security.

1168
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:30,780
Adam Curry: Come on, come on.
Did you extend that? Come on.

1169
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:33,450
Yeah, I want to hit the boiling
again too,

1170
01:11:33,480 --> 01:11:40,560
Unknown: and have a specific
sort of security associated with

1171
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:45,330
them. So for instance, if I were
to pick up my phone, it would

1172
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,990
automatically know this is my
phone this is specifically my

1173
01:11:48,990 --> 01:11:51,990
phone and I would be able to
access all the information on my

1174
01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:55,260
phone without having to have
passwords or any sort of

1175
01:11:55,260 --> 01:11:58,230
identification it just
automatically knows this is my

1176
01:11:58,230 --> 01:12:01,020
phone and I can immediately
access the information on

1177
01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:05,760
Adam Curry: oh I'm so happy this
is going to enrich my life it

1178
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,230
will no this is my phone

1179
01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:10,050
John C Dvorak: and then you
won't need a password for it for

1180
01:12:10,050 --> 01:12:13,410
some unknown reason when I have
my real phone I haven't need a

1181
01:12:13,410 --> 01:12:16,650
password I use my finger I don't
need a password on my phony

1182
01:12:16,650 --> 01:12:27,210
phone lashing blockchain in what
are we talking about here is a

1183
01:12:27,510 --> 01:12:30,180
Adam Curry: publicly listed
company everybody publicly

1184
01:12:30,180 --> 01:12:31,830
listed company and its starting
point

1185
01:12:31,830 --> 01:12:33,720
Unknown: but then you can also
use like blockchain.

1186
01:12:38,430 --> 01:12:40,710
Adam Curry: Thank you. That
really worked for me.

1187
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,980
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Blockchain
with a boy always we're always

1188
01:12:45,420 --> 01:12:47,310
on where we could I think we're
on the four.

1189
01:12:47,340 --> 01:12:50,640
Unknown: Yeah. Now is there any
concern that comes with this? As

1190
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:54,420
you know, with all new
technology, it always has some

1191
01:12:54,420 --> 01:12:56,610
worry associated with it.

1192
01:12:56,970 --> 01:12:58,650
Oh, absolutely. With with all

1193
01:13:00,420 --> 01:13:04,230
Adam Curry: Absolutely. Any new
technology by Oh yeah. We got to

1194
01:13:04,230 --> 01:13:07,890
be very worried about every new
technology. paperclip. That's

1195
01:13:07,890 --> 01:13:11,130
right. That's what we're taking
away. Googler staplers Oh,

1196
01:13:11,130 --> 01:13:11,730
absolutely.

1197
01:13:11,730 --> 01:13:15,450
Unknown: With with all new
technologies. Yeah, being able

1198
01:13:15,450 --> 01:13:20,010
to search an image or a video or
a special location. Yeah, that

1199
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:25,230
that definitely. is the cause
for worry in some ways because

1200
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,490
well now that's information that
we didn't have before. It's it's

1201
01:13:29,490 --> 01:13:32,580
kind of one of those things it's
like privacy you know, privacy

1202
01:13:32,580 --> 01:13:36,390
is definitely a concern as this
right now it can identify cats

1203
01:13:36,420 --> 01:13:41,490
but what if it's a specific cap?
Oh no. Okay, identify people but

1204
01:13:41,490 --> 01:13:45,690
I don't believe it can identify
specific people well when it can

1205
01:13:45,900 --> 01:13:47,790
then that's a privacy concern.

1206
01:13:49,110 --> 01:13:50,520
Adam Curry: But what happened to
the danger I

1207
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:55,800
Unknown: see and can this be
combined with other AI models AI

1208
01:13:55,830 --> 01:13:59,580
programs like chat GPT or mid
journey for example, can all

1209
01:13:59,580 --> 01:14:02,310
these things work in tandem?

1210
01:14:02,670 --> 01:14:03,480
Absolutely.

1211
01:14:10,830 --> 01:14:18,300
Adam Curry: Okay, in the middle
of this sequence place I'm

1212
01:14:18,300 --> 01:14:22,800
crying please tell me you have
more.

1213
01:14:23,190 --> 01:14:26,160
John C Dvorak: Yes, I got two
more now. One of them wishes and

1214
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,790
funny. It this is in the middle
of the commentary about can you

1215
01:14:29,790 --> 01:14:31,770
get jobs out here? Why

1216
01:14:31,770 --> 01:14:34,410
Adam Curry: would we do four? Oh
no, that was the for that. Well,

1217
01:14:34,410 --> 01:14:34,620
yeah. It

1218
01:14:34,620 --> 01:14:41,070
John C Dvorak: was for the
commentaries that you can get if

1219
01:14:41,070 --> 01:14:45,780
you can get an AI job out here
now today. Yeah. And I think JC

1220
01:14:45,780 --> 01:14:48,480
who has done work in this area
is probably going to end up

1221
01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:52,950
doing this. Maybe not. You can
get like 500 grand.

1222
01:14:53,790 --> 01:14:55,470
Adam Curry: I told you that
that's what they're they're

1223
01:14:55,470 --> 01:14:59,220
hiring. me this. Yeah, but I'm
not your son. By the way. I'm

1224
01:14:59,220 --> 01:15:01,140
your partner. No, but

1225
01:15:01,140 --> 01:15:04,320
John C Dvorak: JC is the one
who's been doing AI stuff and

1226
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:09,360
he's the one who could get a job
in AI in Austin. No, here No,

1227
01:15:09,390 --> 01:15:14,760
I'm good. Or, or it turns out
anywhere. If you listen to this

1228
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:19,590
next clip, which is AI jobs,
it's like this thing is so out

1229
01:15:19,590 --> 01:15:24,060
of control. The whole notion and
you brought it up earlier about

1230
01:15:24,060 --> 01:15:27,870
this. It's like it's like a fad
that's gone completely off the

1231
01:15:27,870 --> 01:15:29,730
rails. Listen to this, I spoke

1232
01:15:29,730 --> 01:15:32,550
Unknown: with HR professional
Ira wolf first take on available

1233
01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:34,260
jobs in the AI industry,

1234
01:15:34,949 --> 01:15:39,149
industry such as finance and
banking. A lot of the tech

1235
01:15:39,149 --> 01:15:42,689
people are moving over to those
roles outside of the tech

1236
01:15:42,689 --> 01:15:45,719
companies per se, but into
banking and insurance.

1237
01:15:46,140 --> 01:15:49,050
As you might expect the
information sector dominated.

1238
01:15:49,500 --> 01:15:53,040
The sector is using AI are quite
diverse. Other fields with top

1239
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,190
percentages included
manufacturing, agriculture,

1240
01:15:56,190 --> 01:15:57,960
forestry, fishing and hunting

1241
01:15:58,139 --> 01:16:01,229
and pricing one's agriculture
fishing.

1242
01:16:02,580 --> 01:16:06,540
Adam Curry: Don't tell Joe Rogan
he won't be able to elk hunt

1243
01:16:06,540 --> 01:16:08,610
with his bow and arrow anymore.
Oh no.

1244
01:16:08,910 --> 01:16:11,550
Unknown: manufacturing,
agriculture, forestry, fishing

1245
01:16:11,550 --> 01:16:12,240
and hunting

1246
01:16:12,420 --> 01:16:16,950
and some surprising ones
agriculture, fishing, and

1247
01:16:16,950 --> 01:16:21,990
hunting. About 1.6% of jobs
education was one and a half

1248
01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:23,160
percent management.

1249
01:16:23,610 --> 01:16:27,420
Looking at location, California
posted the most AI related jobs

1250
01:16:27,420 --> 01:16:31,320
with over 140,000 followed by
Texas in New York.

1251
01:16:31,410 --> 01:16:34,710
So a lot of the people from
tech, although they may be

1252
01:16:34,710 --> 01:16:38,730
leaving the, you know, again,
the apples, Google's meadows of

1253
01:16:38,730 --> 01:16:42,660
the world, certainly have a lot
of other opportunities that are

1254
01:16:42,660 --> 01:16:43,110
out there.

1255
01:16:43,889 --> 01:16:46,679
opportunities that will
hopefully increase as AI

1256
01:16:46,679 --> 01:16:48,719
technology continues to develop.
Okay,

1257
01:16:48,929 --> 01:16:50,819
Adam Curry: I want to say
something I want you to pass it

1258
01:16:50,819 --> 01:16:55,919
on to buzzkill Jr, for me. A
friend of mine who I met through

1259
01:16:55,919 --> 01:16:59,189
the show, a good friend of mine
that means we've had dinner each

1260
01:16:59,189 --> 01:17:01,559
other's house and we've had
we've broken bread together so a

1261
01:17:01,559 --> 01:17:02,069
real friend,

1262
01:17:02,100 --> 01:17:04,650
John C Dvorak: right my rule of
friends being a friend Yeah,

1263
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:05,160
real friend.

1264
01:17:05,790 --> 01:17:09,240
Adam Curry: He used to work at
Apple special projects. This is

1265
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:13,470
the group that that actually the
Apple Watch came out of this

1266
01:17:13,470 --> 01:17:15,990
group and they were working and
they continue to work on the

1267
01:17:15,990 --> 01:17:19,590
Apple car it's real and he
doesn't believe the Apple car

1268
01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:23,010
will be he says in our lifetime
yes but probably not for another

1269
01:17:23,370 --> 01:17:28,590
eight to 10 years at least. He
says when when that when Tesla

1270
01:17:28,590 --> 01:17:32,400
started a job and Apple decided
there was a special projects

1271
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:36,660
group was going to go and and do
cars he says we were giving

1272
01:17:36,660 --> 01:17:40,260
people a million dollar signing
bonus a million dollar a year

1273
01:17:40,260 --> 01:17:44,850
salary he said anything it took
to get the right people tell

1274
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:50,040
buzzkill Jr to go man, go go go
and demand it say look, I really

1275
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:54,240
need a hook I need a $5 million
signing bonus and 1,000,005 a

1276
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,450
year and and unrestricted sock
they would give them

1277
01:17:57,480 --> 01:18:01,020
unrestricted stock. So

1278
01:18:01,110 --> 01:18:03,480
John C Dvorak: I'm going to clip
this and send it to him good

1279
01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:06,960
Adam Curry: because I mean that
I think we're at that type of

1280
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:07,710
level again.

1281
01:18:07,740 --> 01:18:09,990
John C Dvorak: Ya know, when
these moments happen, they're

1282
01:18:10,050 --> 01:18:13,980
they're short lived because
people get a clue. You got to

1283
01:18:13,980 --> 01:18:16,770
hurry. Yeah, but yeah, you got
to get in and get in and get

1284
01:18:16,770 --> 01:18:21,120
out. Okay, now, this is the last
clip of this AI series. And this

1285
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,610
is the final This is the old
brother clip in the

1286
01:18:23,610 --> 01:18:27,180
Unknown: future the world may be
filled with hostile AI systems.

1287
01:18:27,450 --> 01:18:31,080
This is according to a paper by
the Center for AI safety. Its

1288
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:35,460
director Dan Hendricks says even
if some developers build

1289
01:18:35,490 --> 01:18:40,200
altruistic AIS, there will still
be those who build less

1290
01:18:40,230 --> 01:18:44,430
altruistic AIS, Hendricks says
the less altruistic ones will

1291
01:18:44,430 --> 01:18:48,840
out compete the altruistic ones.
Now, think about this in the

1292
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,800
business world. A lot of
corporations that put profit

1293
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:57,090
above everything else could use
AI wrongfully they could have AI

1294
01:18:57,090 --> 01:19:00,570
systems helped make profit in
ways that may or may not be

1295
01:19:00,570 --> 01:19:04,740
legal. Hendricks believes less
moral AI systems will perform

1296
01:19:04,740 --> 01:19:08,370
better and may therefore in the
future have filled the world.

1297
01:19:08,850 --> 01:19:12,630
Worse yet he believes they could
even make ce o level decisions

1298
01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:16,830
without any oversight. Dan
Hendricks has a PhD in AI from

1299
01:19:16,830 --> 01:19:20,820
UC Berkeley, he developed a key
part of the deep learning model,

1300
01:19:20,970 --> 01:19:24,660
and he's been researching AI for
the past seven years. So we

1301
01:19:24,660 --> 01:19:28,230
asked Hendricks why he thinks
this is he told us that the

1302
01:19:28,230 --> 01:19:30,570
current AI race is reckless.

1303
01:19:31,230 --> 01:19:34,890
The current AI arms race isn't
prioritizing safety. They're

1304
01:19:34,890 --> 01:19:38,490
largely prioritizing just making
the most powerful products as

1305
01:19:38,490 --> 01:19:42,240
possible and trying to position
themselves to automate as many

1306
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:47,070
jobs as possible. Safety is a
secondary consideration. So

1307
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:49,830
without the public raising their
voice about these sorts of

1308
01:19:49,830 --> 01:19:53,400
concerns, I find it I find it so
unlikely that they're going to

1309
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,080
stop by their own devices.

1310
01:19:55,140 --> 01:19:58,140
Hendricks says companies are
locked into survival of the

1311
01:19:58,140 --> 01:20:01,320
fittest environment. The ones
Yeah, played safe when it comes

1312
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,120
to AI will lose the race.

1313
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,720
Adam Curry: Okay, so it's
actually a good clip because he

1314
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,170
talks about the race he talks
about all the problems and this

1315
01:20:10,980 --> 01:20:18,060
this group center for AI safety
it's safe.ai know you found it

1316
01:20:18,090 --> 01:20:22,890
Oh yeah, I'm um I don't see any
names because why would you ever

1317
01:20:22,890 --> 01:20:27,420
put your name on this? But I do
see what are some of the

1318
01:20:27,420 --> 01:20:32,250
societal scale risks that see A
I S is worried about I will

1319
01:20:32,250 --> 01:20:36,120
quote, AI is application in
warfare can be extremely

1320
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:41,790
harmful. with machine learning,
enhanced aerial combat, and AI

1321
01:20:41,790 --> 01:20:44,580
powered. This is a sales tool.
By the way, we

1322
01:20:44,580 --> 01:20:46,890
John C Dvorak: saw this by the
way and Robocop but the

1323
01:20:49,230 --> 01:20:51,840
Adam Curry: AI powered drug
discovery tools potentially

1324
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,020
being used for developing
chemical weapons, do these

1325
01:20:55,020 --> 01:20:57,810
people are selling to the
military industrial complex,

1326
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:59,910
this is not considered
dangerous, this is considered

1327
01:20:59,910 --> 01:21:03,600
considered a sales call. Cis is
also concerned about other risks

1328
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:08,730
including increased inequality
all due to AI related power

1329
01:21:08,730 --> 01:21:12,900
imbalances, the spread of
misinformation and power seeking

1330
01:21:12,900 --> 01:21:19,590
behavior. Well, everybody wants
this. Ah, okay. So let me get

1331
01:21:19,590 --> 01:21:24,660
one of these jump folks. One of
these, one of these, these AI

1332
01:21:24,660 --> 01:21:28,590
fraidy cats, the one of the
people who wrote the open letter

1333
01:21:29,190 --> 01:21:30,870
from an open letter that Elon

1334
01:21:30,870 --> 01:21:31,950
Unknown: signed at open.

1335
01:21:33,150 --> 01:21:38,130
Adam Curry: Andrew Yang, this is
a lot easier, Shlomo Youdao ski

1336
01:21:39,690 --> 01:21:43,800
Realizer he like I think a laser
Shlomo Youdao ski, American

1337
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,040
writer on decision theory and
ethics best known for

1338
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,980
popularizing ideas related to
friendly artificial

1339
01:21:49,980 --> 01:21:54,030
intelligence. He is co founder
and research fellow at the

1340
01:21:54,030 --> 01:21:57,780
Machine Intelligence Research
Institute, a private research

1341
01:21:57,780 --> 01:22:00,720
nonprofit based in Berkeley,
California right up the road

1342
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,390
from you. His work on the
prospect of a runaway

1343
01:22:03,390 --> 01:22:06,840
intelligence explosion.
Influence philosopher Nick

1344
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:11,490
Bostrom 2014 book super
intelligence path dangers and

1345
01:22:11,490 --> 01:22:15,180
strategies we are dumb first of
all, we are dumb You and me are

1346
01:22:15,180 --> 01:22:18,600
stupid. I mean, we could be
making we could have been doing

1347
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,660
this a year ago this would have
been the exit strategy of all

1348
01:22:21,660 --> 01:22:22,740
exit strategies

1349
01:22:22,769 --> 01:22:25,559
John C Dvorak: I to be honest
about I don't think so. And I'll

1350
01:22:25,559 --> 01:22:27,899
tell you why. Unless we were
getting that five that million

1351
01:22:27,899 --> 01:22:31,379
dollar bonus but for that kind
of thing those books don't sell

1352
01:22:31,499 --> 01:22:34,649
nobody cares about this crap you
don't need that book probably

1353
01:22:34,649 --> 01:22:38,249
sold three copies but and you
know, okay, put together some

1354
01:22:38,309 --> 01:22:42,509
some phony baloney foundation
Institute whatever it is you we

1355
01:22:42,509 --> 01:22:45,569
could do that too. Yes, but who
wants that? daggone

1356
01:22:45,570 --> 01:22:48,930
Adam Curry: Military Industrial
Complex wants consultants. This

1357
01:22:48,930 --> 01:22:52,560
by the way, love him has rom
bloom written all over it. So

1358
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:58,710
now listen to the same, the same
Youdao ski character on what

1359
01:22:58,710 --> 01:23:02,700
many deemed to be one of the
most intelligent podcasts ever

1360
01:23:02,700 --> 01:23:09,270
created by MIT? Super smart
Professor dude, Lex Friedman.

1361
01:23:10,110 --> 01:23:13,560
You've seen this he looks like
one of the men in black. He

1362
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:18,840
wears black black black you've
seen as usual? Yeah. Very smart

1363
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:23,370
guy. Just talk so smart. And
he's interviewing this guy have

1364
01:23:23,370 --> 01:23:28,590
a clip. And, and this guy looks
like he has a hat. He's got a

1365
01:23:28,590 --> 01:23:31,320
gun, which which is you know,
just flopping over. He looks

1366
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:32,820
like a who's your comic book
friend?

1367
01:23:34,860 --> 01:23:35,910
John C Dvorak: A comic book
friend.

1368
01:23:35,940 --> 01:23:37,890
Adam Curry: Yeah. If you would
collect comic books.

1369
01:23:38,849 --> 01:23:41,249
John C Dvorak: You're not
tempted to succeed the Simpsons

1370
01:23:41,249 --> 01:23:41,489
guy

1371
01:23:41,490 --> 01:23:44,910
Adam Curry: agnostic but no, no,
he does a podcast. He was

1372
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,930
hanging Oh, Andy and not co
Leonardo there. He looks a bit

1373
01:23:48,930 --> 01:23:52,110
like Andy a knocko. Okay,
especially with the hat. Now

1374
01:23:52,110 --> 01:23:57,030
listen to him. This man, this
man is smart. Because he if he

1375
01:23:57,030 --> 01:24:01,950
plays his cards, right? He could
make $100 million consulting for

1376
01:24:01,950 --> 01:24:02,550
people.

1377
01:24:02,820 --> 01:24:06,360
Unknown: I had a conversation
with Sam Altman. We'll return to

1378
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:08,490
this topic a few times.

1379
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,490
Adam Curry: And just a reminder,
Sam Altman is the you know, is

1380
01:24:11,490 --> 01:24:16,560
that punk who runs open AI chat
GPG. Of course, we have jet GPT

1381
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,230
for now, which at all? This is
the one this is the one that's

1382
01:24:19,230 --> 01:24:19,860
going to kill us

1383
01:24:19,860 --> 01:24:24,180
Unknown: keep turning the
question to me of how open

1384
01:24:24,180 --> 01:24:28,050
should open AI be about GPT.
Four was you open source the

1385
01:24:28,050 --> 01:24:32,820
code he asked me because I
provided as criticism saying

1386
01:24:32,820 --> 01:24:36,480
that. While I do appreciate
transparency, opening, I could

1387
01:24:36,480 --> 01:24:39,930
be more open. And he says we
struggle with this question.

1388
01:24:39,930 --> 01:24:40,740
What would you do?

1389
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:48,840
change their name to closed AI?
And, like, sell GPT for to

1390
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:53,130
business back end applications
that don't expose it to

1391
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,950
consumers and venture
capitalists and create a ton of

1392
01:24:55,950 --> 01:24:59,310
hype and like pour a bunch of
new funding into the area. But I

1393
01:24:59,310 --> 01:25:03,090
don't feel like now I think
others will do it, eventually,

1394
01:25:03,420 --> 01:25:07,350
you shouldn't do it first. Like,
if you if you already have giant

1395
01:25:07,350 --> 01:25:10,620
nuclear stockpiles don't tell
more. If some other country

1396
01:25:10,620 --> 01:25:14,850
starts building a larger nuclear
stockpile, then sure build, then

1397
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:18,510
you know, even then maybe just
have enough nukes, you know,

1398
01:25:18,930 --> 01:25:22,320
these things are not quite like
nuclear weapons, they spit out

1399
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,450
gold until they get large enough
and then ignite the atmosphere

1400
01:25:24,450 --> 01:25:31,440
and kill everybody. And there
are some things to be said for

1401
01:25:31,470 --> 01:25:34,080
not destroying the world with
your own hands, even if you

1402
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,590
can't stop somebody else from
doing it. But But open sourcing

1403
01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:41,010
and now that that's just sheer
catastrophe. The whole notion of

1404
01:25:41,130 --> 01:25:43,710
open sourcing, this was always
the wrong approach the wrong

1405
01:25:43,710 --> 01:25:47,220
ideal. There are there are
places in the world where open

1406
01:25:47,220 --> 01:25:53,070
source is a noble ideal. And
building stuff you don't

1407
01:25:53,070 --> 01:25:56,610
understand that is difficult to
control that where if you could

1408
01:25:56,610 --> 01:26:00,900
align it, it would take time,
you'd have to spend a bunch of

1409
01:26:00,900 --> 01:26:04,020
time doing it. That is that is
not a place for open source,

1410
01:26:04,020 --> 01:26:07,500
because then you just have like
powerful things that just like

1411
01:26:07,500 --> 01:26:10,890
go straight out the gate without
anybody having had the time to

1412
01:26:10,890 --> 01:26:12,000
have them not kill everyone.

1413
01:26:13,710 --> 01:26:15,120
Adam Curry: These people are
insane.

1414
01:26:16,470 --> 01:26:17,430
John C Dvorak: And boring.

1415
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,170
Adam Curry: This is the same.
This is climate change. This is

1416
01:26:22,170 --> 01:26:26,280
the new climate change hype.
We're gonna have a mediation of

1417
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,980
committees and of Paris
meetings, we have to have the

1418
01:26:28,980 --> 01:26:32,220
all the world leaders come
together we have to control ay

1419
01:26:32,250 --> 01:26:38,430
ay, because it's junk heads. A
Pierre Pierre, expand the Cylon,

1420
01:26:38,430 --> 01:26:43,740
we're coming. This is insane.
I'm sorry. I've seen this. I've

1421
01:26:43,740 --> 01:26:47,370
seen this movie before. I've
heard all the warnings. I mean,

1422
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,250
this is please, John, you've
been around long enough tell

1423
01:26:50,250 --> 01:26:51,570
everybody this crap,

1424
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,430
John C Dvorak: right. Like I
said, we got a letter from

1425
01:26:53,430 --> 01:26:58,350
somebody I mentioned this on a
Horowitz show, which is we got a

1426
01:26:58,350 --> 01:27:01,980
letter from someone in one of
our women producers. And she's

1427
01:27:02,010 --> 01:27:06,270
mentioned this and I assume she
says, Ah, I forgot all about

1428
01:27:06,270 --> 01:27:12,150
that. If you recall, the first
iteration of AI was in the 80s.

1429
01:27:12,150 --> 01:27:15,060
And they had the third
generation fourth generation

1430
01:27:15,060 --> 01:27:18,390
product project gonna happen in
Japan, they're gonna have some

1431
01:27:18,390 --> 01:27:21,210
machine, it's gonna run the
world and, and they were

1432
01:27:21,210 --> 01:27:25,770
throwing money after dime after
dollar into Stanford and

1433
01:27:25,770 --> 01:27:30,660
McCarthy was there and all the
real ai ai ai, and it was nuts.

1434
01:27:30,780 --> 01:27:33,960
And then it all collapsed,
because it wasn't producing

1435
01:27:33,990 --> 01:27:37,530
anything of value. And it was it
was just a joke. And it

1436
01:27:37,530 --> 01:27:42,180
collapsed to the point where in
the 90s, and I think this was in

1437
01:27:42,180 --> 01:27:45,030
probably the mid to late 90s.
And she pointed this out and I

1438
01:27:45,030 --> 01:27:49,320
said I remember this. If you
were a venture cat, if you were

1439
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:53,520
a new startup or a venture first
company, you would need venture

1440
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:59,370
funding. You could not even say
a i or you wouldn't get a

1441
01:27:59,370 --> 01:28:00,090
nickel.

1442
01:28:01,740 --> 01:28:05,970
Adam Curry: Well, it's coming
back. And then the canary one

1443
01:28:05,970 --> 01:28:08,610
John C Dvorak: two years later,
it comes back after the late

1444
01:28:08,610 --> 01:28:12,030
90s. When if you said AI you
wouldn't get a nickel. Now it's

1445
01:28:12,030 --> 01:28:15,360
like it Jyotish everybody's
forgotten all the people that

1446
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:18,570
remember any of that. In fact, I
had forgotten it until I was

1447
01:28:18,570 --> 01:28:23,130
reminded in this note about that
little phenomenon that wishes if

1448
01:28:23,130 --> 01:28:27,090
you said AI you wouldn't get a
nickel. It's now everyone's

1449
01:28:27,090 --> 01:28:30,000
forgotten it and so let's try
this again people

1450
01:28:30,030 --> 01:28:33,750
Adam Curry: so the canary in the
coal mine is wet. And thank you,

1451
01:28:33,780 --> 01:28:37,500
Elon and you ruined my Twitter
because all of a sudden I get

1452
01:28:37,500 --> 01:28:41,370
tweet after tweet after tweet
from the guy who's all in on it.

1453
01:28:42,090 --> 01:28:46,860
Please, people do not poke do
not email me pictures of your AI

1454
01:28:46,860 --> 01:28:50,670
generated output of how smart it
was to answer your your prompt

1455
01:28:50,670 --> 01:28:55,770
engineering, puking. Who who
could be the canary that what

1456
01:28:55,830 --> 01:29:01,980
what Silicon Valley Tech?
Influencer, if you can call it

1457
01:29:01,980 --> 01:29:06,090
that, who would be the one to
show that we are at peak AI

1458
01:29:06,090 --> 01:29:06,570
hype?

1459
01:29:08,250 --> 01:29:11,580
John C Dvorak: Those under Marc
Andreessen, there's a million of

1460
01:29:11,580 --> 01:29:18,240
them. Robert Scoble. Oh, SCO
WASC Yeah. And so it is global

1461
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:18,570
say,

1462
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:22,230
Adam Curry: Oh, he posts his
article. Listen, this building

1463
01:29:22,230 --> 01:29:29,010
God, the rise of AI is the new
divine. Now, building God 1.0

1464
01:29:29,580 --> 01:29:33,870
That was religion. But then we
had God 2.0 That was the search

1465
01:29:33,870 --> 01:29:38,550
engines saved. That was Google.
That was God. 2.0 And God

1466
01:29:38,550 --> 01:29:43,260
building God 3.0 is artificial
intelligence. Yes. And with

1467
01:29:43,260 --> 01:29:49,410
this, we will be able to control
God to control God and to build

1468
01:29:49,440 --> 01:29:57,030
God in our image. I love this.
You can and it's interesting.

1469
01:29:57,030 --> 01:30:00,600
It's a big a big picture of the
end of stuff. When for some

1470
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,960
reason Oh, there you go, that
makes nothing but sense. He says

1471
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,900
human leaders have created their
own religions, often leading to

1472
01:30:06,900 --> 01:30:11,580
great human suffering picture
Joseph Stalin. So they're going

1473
01:30:11,580 --> 01:30:15,570
all in on this. And I think it's
is as a good, there's a good

1474
01:30:15,570 --> 01:30:19,110
chance it will bankrupt one or
two or put one two companies in

1475
01:30:19,110 --> 01:30:23,700
severe distress. Remember that
Google, they had to run all of a

1476
01:30:23,700 --> 01:30:27,990
sudden that, you know, they're
retooling for AI, when most of

1477
01:30:27,990 --> 01:30:31,710
the AI projects as far as I
know, it really run on Azure

1478
01:30:31,710 --> 01:30:34,920
from Microsoft. They're probably
laughing about it. And then

1479
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,740
Google memory, Google came out
with barf. And the first thing

1480
01:30:37,740 --> 01:30:40,350
he said was an answer something
wrong, the stock price dropped

1481
01:30:40,350 --> 01:30:44,760
$80 billion, or some crazy
amount like that. Yeah. So

1482
01:30:44,790 --> 01:30:48,270
remember that. So these are,
this is just, it's just, it's

1483
01:30:48,270 --> 01:30:52,950
bullcrap. And we've seen this,
it literally, you've seen this

1484
01:30:52,980 --> 01:30:57,180
AI thing come around. So it'll
be fun. It'll be fun to see. And

1485
01:30:57,210 --> 01:30:59,880
it'll be fun to see who goes
bankrupt first, but this will

1486
01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:03,090
not end well. It's too
expensive, particularly the chat

1487
01:31:03,090 --> 01:31:07,950
GPT for stuff, whatever it is,
you know, people have to pay for

1488
01:31:07,950 --> 01:31:10,620
it. No one's gonna pay for that
their model their advertising,

1489
01:31:10,620 --> 01:31:15,750
which an in a soft ad market,
you're going to do this. This is

1490
01:31:15,750 --> 01:31:19,470
where you need to be, you know,
to be tightening inventory,

1491
01:31:19,470 --> 01:31:22,320
maybe you're doing something to
get your CPMs up, you're not

1492
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,620
supposed to be retooling and
spending all your money on stuff

1493
01:31:25,620 --> 01:31:31,110
that you can't get advertising
on. Unless I'm crazy. I'm look,

1494
01:31:31,110 --> 01:31:32,250
I'm no business major.

1495
01:31:32,910 --> 01:31:37,110
John C Dvorak: Well, I've said
this before. They have copyright

1496
01:31:37,110 --> 01:31:38,160
issues with this

1497
01:31:38,460 --> 01:31:42,450
Adam Curry: with the I have a
note about that. The please,

1498
01:31:42,450 --> 01:31:45,840
please read this note. Yes, the
note? Well, it's from the

1499
01:31:45,900 --> 01:31:50,100
homeowner. Second, it is from
the copyright, copyright

1500
01:31:50,100 --> 01:31:54,090
registration guidance from the
this is in the Federal Register.

1501
01:31:54,090 --> 01:31:57,810
It's from the US Copyright
Office. And this Copyright

1502
01:31:57,810 --> 01:32:01,500
Office issued this statement to
pop to pop a policy to clarify

1503
01:32:01,500 --> 01:32:04,710
its practices for examining and
registering works that contain

1504
01:32:04,710 --> 01:32:07,830
material generated by the use of
artificial intelligence

1505
01:32:07,830 --> 01:32:12,300
technology. So it doesn't answer
all of what we're talking about.

1506
01:32:12,300 --> 01:32:23,640
But it says very clearly, by law
by by the air. Once its recent

1507
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:25,320
developers to use of
sophisticated artificial

1508
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:28,320
intelligent AI technology is
capable of producing expressive

1509
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:30,930
material, these technologies
trained on vast quantities of

1510
01:32:30,930 --> 01:32:34,650
pre existing human authored
works and use in inferences from

1511
01:32:34,650 --> 01:32:37,950
training to generate new
generate new content. What they

1512
01:32:37,950 --> 01:32:45,300
say is only a human being can
get a copyright, no machine is

1513
01:32:45,330 --> 01:32:49,710
by law allowed to get a to take
out a copyright on anything.

1514
01:32:50,370 --> 01:32:53,340
That's not exactly exactly
answering our question. But they

1515
01:32:53,340 --> 01:32:57,300
are saying no, you cannot
register a copyright with

1516
01:32:57,300 --> 01:33:00,510
anything generated by a machine.
It has to be human.

1517
01:33:01,500 --> 01:33:04,950
John C Dvorak: Wow, Joe, that I
didn't know I was more going

1518
01:33:04,950 --> 01:33:08,370
along the lines of the of the
liability issues, which I think

1519
01:33:08,580 --> 01:33:12,030
and I'm not absolutely sure. But
it's either getty images or one

1520
01:33:12,030 --> 01:33:16,230
of these other big companies who
are Rusi with this coming down

1521
01:33:16,230 --> 01:33:20,430
the road because they're not
stupid, are already suing people

1522
01:33:20,430 --> 01:33:24,240
for stealing their images and
then incorporating them into

1523
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:28,260
other images in a way that
violates copyright. This is the

1524
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:32,160
legal issues here are profound,

1525
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,920
Adam Curry: it's better time to
become a lawyer. In the offices

1526
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,350
view, it is well established
that copyright could protect

1527
01:33:37,350 --> 01:33:40,020
only material that is the
product of human creativity.

1528
01:33:40,020 --> 01:33:42,930
Most fundamentally the term
author, which is used in both

1529
01:33:42,930 --> 01:33:45,750
the Constitution and the
Copyright Act excludes Non

1530
01:33:45,750 --> 01:33:49,440
Humans. The offices registration
policies and regulations reflect

1531
01:33:49,440 --> 01:33:52,890
statutory and judicial guidance
on this issue. And then they go

1532
01:33:52,890 --> 01:33:58,020
into burrow Giles, lithography
company versus ceremony, where a

1533
01:33:58,020 --> 01:33:59,940
defendant accused of making
unauthorized copies of a

1534
01:33:59,940 --> 01:34:02,430
photograph argued the expansion
of copyright protection to

1535
01:34:02,430 --> 01:34:06,270
photographs. And Congress had no
a photograph is made by a

1536
01:34:06,270 --> 01:34:10,770
camera. I mean, that's that's
how far they go with this. So

1537
01:34:10,770 --> 01:34:14,400
no, well, that photograph thing
has been reversed. Well, they

1538
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,880
don't say so in their, in their,
in their brief photographs

1539
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:19,860
John C Dvorak: are copyrighted
because they're taken by a

1540
01:34:19,860 --> 01:34:24,270
human. Just because the camera
was an intermediary doesn't mean

1541
01:34:24,270 --> 01:34:27,180
that if you write a novel than
us again, I don't think you

1542
01:34:27,180 --> 01:34:30,510
can't copyright it because a pen
was bald, or a typewriter or a

1543
01:34:30,510 --> 01:34:31,170
computer. I

1544
01:34:31,170 --> 01:34:33,480
Adam Curry: hear you I don't
think either of us are qualified

1545
01:34:33,480 --> 01:34:35,760
without reading all of this to
understand what

1546
01:34:35,790 --> 01:34:37,740
John C Dvorak: I'm talking about
qualified enough.

1547
01:34:39,480 --> 01:34:41,700
Adam Curry: I think we're both
qualified to know enough that

1548
01:34:41,700 --> 01:34:48,720
this AI is BS. But it'll be fun
to watch people freak out over

1549
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,720
because we're all going to die.
And with that, I'd like to thank

1550
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:53,670
you for your courage in the
morning to you the man who put

1551
01:34:53,670 --> 01:34:57,030
three C's in the bricks
currency, please say hello to my

1552
01:34:57,030 --> 01:34:59,970
friend on the other end. Ladies
and gentlemen, Mr. Johnson

1553
01:35:02,610 --> 01:35:04,590
John C Dvorak: Well in the
morning to you, Mr. Adam curry

1554
01:35:04,590 --> 01:35:07,560
also in the morning all ships at
sea boots on the ground feet in

1555
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:10,110
the air subs in the water and
all the games and nights out

1556
01:35:10,110 --> 01:35:10,800
there in the morning

1557
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:12,360
Adam Curry: to the trolls and
the troll room. We've had pretty

1558
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:13,860
good attendance recently. Let's

1559
01:35:15,900 --> 01:35:17,400
Unknown: see how many of you are
hanging out here

1560
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:21,870
Adam Curry: for Thursday 1963.
So we're close to our 2000

1561
01:35:21,870 --> 01:35:25,110
number that's above our 1800. So
I think we're doing better every

1562
01:35:25,110 --> 01:35:26,610
single every single time.

1563
01:35:27,210 --> 01:35:29,040
John C Dvorak: I thought last
Thursday, we had 2000

1564
01:35:29,070 --> 01:35:31,590
Adam Curry: No, I think we had
way above that on Sunday. I

1565
01:35:31,590 --> 01:35:34,050
John C Dvorak: don't know if we
had two Nanos Sunday was 24 I'm

1566
01:35:34,050 --> 01:35:38,040
not sure I think last Thursday
was 2000. And it was because of

1567
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,770
the talk about Trump or
something.

1568
01:35:41,580 --> 01:35:43,260
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, we got to
talk about that too.

1569
01:35:43,260 --> 01:35:44,370
John C Dvorak: I forgot Trump.

1570
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:47,970
Adam Curry: This well, not about
Trump about the media. That's

1571
01:35:47,970 --> 01:35:50,220
the funny thing. We got to
deconstruct some of the insanity

1572
01:35:50,220 --> 01:35:54,180
that was going on for sure. That
is the troll room you can follow

1573
01:35:54,180 --> 01:35:57,540
along listen to no agenda
stream.com it's global, you can

1574
01:35:57,630 --> 01:36:01,500
check it out, control room.io
That'll give you right there is

1575
01:36:01,500 --> 01:36:03,840
a little chat widget you can log
into the troll room, you can

1576
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,390
listen to those stream live, or
we recommend getting one of

1577
01:36:06,390 --> 01:36:09,540
those modern podcast apps at
podcast apps.com Drop your

1578
01:36:09,540 --> 01:36:12,660
legacy crap, you can import all
of your podcast subscriptions

1579
01:36:12,660 --> 01:36:16,260
right into it. We suggest the
pod verse is a great one because

1580
01:36:16,740 --> 01:36:20,220
it's it works really well it'll
alert you when the bat signal is

1581
01:36:20,220 --> 01:36:22,590
sent you pop it open, we're
there right where you get your

1582
01:36:22,590 --> 01:36:27,120
no agenda podcast. And you can
listen live and and of course we

1583
01:36:27,330 --> 01:36:30,510
we have the troll room
integrated in that. And also you

1584
01:36:30,510 --> 01:36:34,170
can use that for for some of the
other features. We have like

1585
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:38,640
transcripts. This is just
amazing, really that app apple

1586
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:41,880
and Spotify don't have
transcripts. And that's the one

1587
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:45,690
of the first things we put into
podcast in 2.0 for you know, the

1588
01:36:45,690 --> 01:36:50,460
disabled it's there's it's
actually a law that you if you

1589
01:36:50,460 --> 01:36:55,320
can you need to put in
transcripts. This is right. But

1590
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,810
of course you know Apple, they
don't care a Spotify, they don't

1591
01:36:57,810 --> 01:37:00,900
care knows Amazon or Google,
they don't care. I'm late to

1592
01:37:00,900 --> 01:37:04,560
disabled but we do. We have we
have deaf people, lots of them.

1593
01:37:04,590 --> 01:37:08,070
There are there are friends, we
have blind people. But we also

1594
01:37:08,070 --> 01:37:10,650
have deaf people and they love
reading along with the people

1595
01:37:10,650 --> 01:37:14,430
who are hard of hearing. And
they love reading along with the

1596
01:37:14,430 --> 01:37:16,920
transcripts. And that is funny
too, because sometimes the

1597
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:20,370
brilliant AI I still cannot
train it to say to write down

1598
01:37:20,370 --> 01:37:26,190
John C period Dvorak, it comes
out as Jay H en si de vorak. So

1599
01:37:26,220 --> 01:37:31,200
it's hilarious how it's going to
kill us this AI. Along with that

1600
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:34,530
you can always fight Bose. Well,
that's not just a typo. That's a

1601
01:37:34,530 --> 01:37:39,180
complete missing interpretation.
Of course, you can also follow

1602
01:37:39,210 --> 01:37:45,300
Adam at no agenda social.com or
Mastodon or John C. Dvorak at no

1603
01:37:45,300 --> 01:37:49,200
agenda social.com. I'm also on
noster if you're looking for me,

1604
01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:52,710
and the cool thing about the
album art is that if you're

1605
01:37:52,710 --> 01:37:55,200
listening live, you can follow
along at no agenda, art

1606
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:58,290
generator.com. And you can see
what the artists are making in

1607
01:37:58,290 --> 01:38:01,800
real time or later, our very own
dreads, Dred Scott puts it

1608
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:04,740
together and puts it into our
chapter, something else you can

1609
01:38:04,740 --> 01:38:07,350
only get on these modern podcast
apps. And it's really cool to

1610
01:38:07,350 --> 01:38:11,040
look I think on some, some car
systems will even even they'll

1611
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:13,680
show you the art on the
dashboard as it cycles through

1612
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:18,720
it. And we want to thank the the
artists, the artists, actually

1613
01:38:18,750 --> 01:38:21,900
who brought us the artwork for
episode 1543 We titled that

1614
01:38:21,900 --> 01:38:26,820
buffalo feathers. And this was
this was a funny piece brought

1615
01:38:26,820 --> 01:38:32,130
to us by Taunton, Neil. It was
the podcast in the can. What was

1616
01:38:32,130 --> 01:38:33,840
the ken part we were talking
about? We're talking about

1617
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:38,400
something on the show. It was
Dawson. Dawson can yes Dawson

1618
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:43,140
again. And it was a beautiful
piece. I mean, had a little Jack

1619
01:38:43,380 --> 01:38:47,190
with with a headphone jack and
little hole to receive the the

1620
01:38:47,190 --> 01:38:50,880
headphone jack and it's at
podcast. And I mean, it was well

1621
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:51,420
done.

1622
01:38:51,540 --> 01:38:54,240
John C Dvorak: conservatively.
It was extremely professional.

1623
01:38:54,270 --> 01:38:54,960
Yes. Let's

1624
01:38:55,020 --> 01:38:57,420
Adam Curry: go take a look at an
origin Art Generator. See what

1625
01:38:57,420 --> 01:38:59,880
else we had that we talked
about. There wasn't

1626
01:38:59,880 --> 01:39:05,040
John C Dvorak: much else there.
That was going to work. A lot of

1627
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:05,850
hand cut

1628
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,580
Adam Curry: costs for 45. Yeah,
a lot of that

1629
01:39:08,970 --> 01:39:12,810
John C Dvorak: in that wasn't
going to happen. No,

1630
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,810
Adam Curry: they weren't really
funny or great. I mean, Roger

1631
01:39:15,810 --> 01:39:19,530
Brown, he did an admirable job.
I mean it professional peace

1632
01:39:19,530 --> 01:39:23,790
with 45 and the handcuffs, but I
don't know it was like, that's

1633
01:39:23,790 --> 01:39:26,640
the one thing that never
happened either would never was

1634
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:27,360
gonna happen.

1635
01:39:29,550 --> 01:39:31,080
John C Dvorak: No, that wasn't
gonna happen. They didn't take a

1636
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:31,860
mug shot.

1637
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:36,720
Adam Curry: No. And it also kind
of puts makes us too important.

1638
01:39:36,750 --> 01:39:39,330
You know, with all the stuff
that you just heard in the past

1639
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:42,600
hour and a half. I'd say there's
other things going on in your

1640
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:44,910
world. Besides this

1641
01:39:44,940 --> 01:39:47,610
John C Dvorak: media, Trump,
Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump,

1642
01:39:47,610 --> 01:39:49,110
Trump. That

1643
01:39:49,110 --> 01:39:53,550
Adam Curry: was good. I'm gonna
have to tag that. There was also

1644
01:39:54,480 --> 01:39:58,710
every single person that that
was out there at the courthouse.

1645
01:39:58,770 --> 01:40:01,920
They all had their phone out.
They were all they were all

1646
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:07,140
doing YouTube and tic TOCs and
reels and streaming live. And it

1647
01:40:07,140 --> 01:40:11,190
was it was a media event.
Everybody. I mean, what is this?

1648
01:40:11,220 --> 01:40:14,400
This is so sad when you see that
happen. There was a fight on

1649
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:19,410
Sixth Street in Austin, a pretty
big brawl, and all kinds of

1650
01:40:19,410 --> 01:40:23,760
people. Black, white, brown,
everyone fighting and pulling

1651
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:27,060
each other's wigs and stuff is
not. And what is everyone else

1652
01:40:27,060 --> 01:40:34,110
doing there? It's sad that no,
we're the people who go and try

1653
01:40:34,110 --> 01:40:37,710
and stop these things. They're
gone. No people. Oh, I'm gonna

1654
01:40:37,710 --> 01:40:42,000
get some likes from this. Oh, I
gotta get my phone out. We're

1655
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:47,400
doomed as a society. What else
was there? South woke.com. Or

1656
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:52,440
you couldn't do better than
South what woke themselves? I

1657
01:40:52,440 --> 01:40:55,890
think that was kind of it. It
was just it stood out know that

1658
01:40:55,890 --> 01:40:59,580
we went Okay, that's it. I mean,
drag queen story hour, we're not

1659
01:40:59,580 --> 01:41:02,250
going to put that on our album
art. We're not going to put drag

1660
01:41:02,250 --> 01:41:06,240
queens out there. I don't think
it would have to be pretty

1661
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:09,930
interesting and funny for us to
be hilarious. Yeah, so I don't

1662
01:41:09,930 --> 01:41:12,420
think that's gonna happen. Thank
you very much, Tom to Neil. We

1663
01:41:12,420 --> 01:41:15,930
highly appreciate the work that
you've done that all of the

1664
01:41:15,930 --> 01:41:19,800
artists do. It is incredibly
appreciated. No agenda art.

1665
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:22,980
generator.com is where you can
where you can see all of these

1666
01:41:22,980 --> 01:41:26,760
pieces of where people are
already creating stuff. So I see

1667
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:30,210
that dog, comic strip blogger,
that dog is AI generated and

1668
01:41:30,210 --> 01:41:33,660
that dog is never going to go on
our album art's not going to

1669
01:41:33,660 --> 01:41:37,650
happen. It's all part of our
value for value model. And value

1670
01:41:37,650 --> 01:41:40,980
from value for value works.
Works pretty simply been doing

1671
01:41:40,980 --> 01:41:44,040
for 15 years. It's a roller
coaster from time to time, but

1672
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:48,690
the way it works is we do the
show and you can access listen

1673
01:41:48,690 --> 01:41:51,870
to it for free anytime anywhere.
Spread it around do whatever you

1674
01:41:51,870 --> 01:41:54,150
want. If you get any kind of
value from if you live What's it

1675
01:41:54,150 --> 01:41:56,790
what's the life worth? You make?
You know you go to Joe Rogan's

1676
01:41:56,790 --> 01:41:59,250
club you know pay 20 bucks for
laugh before we had a drink?

1677
01:42:00,900 --> 01:42:01,920
Well worth it though.

1678
01:42:02,970 --> 01:42:05,670
John C Dvorak: Except the Shibu
II knew that he did with the

1679
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:09,090
with the artificial intelligence
obvious is what he does. Yeah,

1680
01:42:09,480 --> 01:42:12,630
it there's a dog with no canine
teeth. Kind of artificial

1681
01:42:12,630 --> 01:42:13,650
intelligence is this

1682
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:17,130
Adam Curry: well, AI has a lot
of problems with fingers. And

1683
01:42:17,130 --> 01:42:22,260
apparently dogs canines, maybe
they'll fix that I'm sure but if

1684
01:42:22,260 --> 01:42:25,350
someone sent me Oh look, there's
this new thing but But parents

1685
01:42:25,350 --> 01:42:28,710
can take their kids skydiving
and then you look at all the

1686
01:42:28,710 --> 01:42:31,410
kids that go wild with their
mouth open you know flying from

1687
01:42:31,410 --> 01:42:34,530
the pressure jumping out of a
plane with a with a sky jumper

1688
01:42:34,530 --> 01:42:37,200
and they have six seven fingers
Come on stop insulting.

1689
01:42:38,430 --> 01:42:41,640
Unknown: insulting me. The most
simple rule

1690
01:42:41,850 --> 01:42:44,190
Adam Curry: is like hey, I can't
do it for some reason these

1691
01:42:44,850 --> 01:42:49,140
rules not there. For some reason
they can't get it done. The mid

1692
01:42:49,140 --> 01:42:50,190
journey is the

1693
01:42:52,110 --> 01:42:54,390
John C Dvorak: him mid journey.
Anyway,

1694
01:42:54,599 --> 01:42:57,539
Adam Curry: so that's the whole
concept you don't have to donate

1695
01:42:57,539 --> 01:43:00,839
for every single show you can
add it up you can donate later

1696
01:43:00,839 --> 01:43:03,299
you could be on and you can if
you want or every week or every

1697
01:43:03,299 --> 01:43:06,899
month and the beauty of it is
you determine what value is you

1698
01:43:06,899 --> 01:43:10,949
determine $5 A month could be a
lot of money to you are just as

1699
01:43:10,949 --> 01:43:14,369
happy with any other donation is
as long as you felt that you

1700
01:43:14,369 --> 01:43:16,799
were returning the same amount
of value God maybe you learned

1701
01:43:16,799 --> 01:43:20,429
something and maybe you laughed
about this AI nonsense. Maybe

1702
01:43:20,459 --> 01:43:24,179
whatever. Maybe you got a great
idea to create an entire million

1703
01:43:24,179 --> 01:43:29,999
dollar career. Think about us.
So we'd like to thank these

1704
01:43:29,999 --> 01:43:32,189
people. We'd like to thank all
everyone always wants some

1705
01:43:32,219 --> 01:43:35,609
reason to donate and and of
course we have our executive

1706
01:43:35,609 --> 01:43:37,979
producers and our Associate
Executive Producers just like

1707
01:43:37,979 --> 01:43:40,679
Hollywood. These credits are
forever and they're for real. Go

1708
01:43:40,679 --> 01:43:44,159
look at IMDb, no agenda
executive producer, you'll see

1709
01:43:44,309 --> 01:43:47,639
the people serious Hollywood
bigwigs even use these credits

1710
01:43:47,639 --> 01:43:51,749
and there's a lot of people
using it, your resume and we

1711
01:43:51,749 --> 01:43:54,689
kick it off by thanking Larry
from Pace Florida who comes in

1712
01:43:54,689 --> 01:43:58,499
with a cool $1,000 Oh, here's a
perfect example. Here's a

1713
01:43:58,499 --> 01:44:02,429
perfect example. He says Dear
John Adam, I am ashamed to admit

1714
01:44:02,579 --> 01:44:05,189
I've been listening to no agenda
since the first Joe Rogan

1715
01:44:05,189 --> 01:44:09,059
appearance in 2020 Without
donating after Joe Rogan

1716
01:44:09,059 --> 01:44:12,959
donation after selling my home
two weeks ago, which prop I

1717
01:44:12,959 --> 01:44:16,409
would presume he made some
money. I decided I should use

1718
01:44:16,409 --> 01:44:20,369
$1,000 of the proceeds to become
an instant Knight. I asked for

1719
01:44:20,369 --> 01:44:23,849
the title of Sir up no jingles
but I would like a deed Do

1720
01:44:25,770 --> 01:44:27,630
Unknown: you spend deed deuced

1721
01:44:28,980 --> 01:44:31,620
Adam Curry: Danny Says he would
also like a jobs karma to go

1722
01:44:31,620 --> 01:44:33,870
with that and he says thank you
very much and we thank you this

1723
01:44:33,870 --> 01:44:36,810
is exactly what we asked for
when what I just talked about

1724
01:44:36,810 --> 01:44:40,350
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's

1725
01:44:46,440 --> 01:44:48,510
John C Dvorak: have nexus dribs
Scott who

1726
01:44:48,510 --> 01:44:51,210
Adam Curry: is about him grab
we're talking about good old rip

1727
01:44:51,780 --> 01:44:58,320
John C Dvorak: 9635496354456 I
don't know what that means, but

1728
01:44:58,410 --> 01:44:59,610
I know because I asked him

1729
01:45:00,359 --> 01:45:02,549
Adam Curry: Oh, what is it?
That's exactly the amount he

1730
01:45:02,549 --> 01:45:05,939
needed to become a Duke. Ah,
Archduke I'm sorry,

1731
01:45:06,209 --> 01:45:09,779
John C Dvorak: practical man.
This donation takes me from Duke

1732
01:45:09,779 --> 01:45:15,089
to Archduke Dred Scott of this
southern California. megaregion.

1733
01:45:15,089 --> 01:45:19,799
Happy birthday, John. Thank you.
He goes no Karma Grip, Scott

1734
01:45:20,219 --> 01:45:23,849
3368999.

1735
01:45:23,909 --> 01:45:28,019
Adam Curry: Yes. Let me tell you
what that is. Even though we

1736
01:45:28,019 --> 01:45:34,829
don't have the new webpage up, I
did tweet out. The Ibex pay QR

1737
01:45:34,829 --> 01:45:39,299
code for people to donate with
Bitcoin and drabs. God sent us

1738
01:45:39,299 --> 01:45:46,559
3,368,999 Satoshis which equals
this at the time 963 dot 54. So

1739
01:45:46,559 --> 01:45:49,409
there you go. That came in
through a Bitcoin payment.

1740
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:52,770
John C Dvorak: Yes. Now we
should mention the Bitcoin

1741
01:45:52,770 --> 01:45:56,190
payment. We don't have wallets.
The Bitcoin payment goes to

1742
01:45:56,190 --> 01:45:58,410
these guys that we they give us
the cash equivalency

1743
01:45:58,440 --> 01:45:59,160
immediately.

1744
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:02,430
Adam Curry: Yes, keep mentioning
that. That's absolutely true.

1745
01:46:03,150 --> 01:46:06,390
And it's what we agreed on. And
I agree that that is a safe way

1746
01:46:06,390 --> 01:46:07,440
for us to start.

1747
01:46:08,460 --> 01:46:11,910
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so there's
no inner we're not holding

1748
01:46:11,910 --> 01:46:12,510
Bitcoin.

1749
01:46:12,870 --> 01:46:15,840
Adam Curry: Correct, sir. FOD
father is in Indianapolis,

1750
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,960
Indiana in the morning Gemzar,
fod father here with a donation

1751
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:22,890
to help celebrate completing my
75th year on the planet. And

1752
01:46:22,890 --> 01:46:28,410
John 71st I'm still older than
you you young whippersnapper

1753
01:46:28,980 --> 01:46:31,920
Happy Birthday, John. Thanks to
both of you. No jingles? No

1754
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:34,470
karma. Thank you for your
courage and we thank you, sir.

1755
01:46:36,090 --> 01:46:39,120
John C Dvorak: Ashley Slater is
next in Elk River, Minnesota

1756
01:46:39,150 --> 01:46:44,550
nuts in the morning and this is
switcheroo Ashley Slater from

1757
01:46:44,550 --> 01:46:49,770
Elk River, Minnesota here. This
donation is from our wet meet up

1758
01:46:49,890 --> 01:46:55,620
last Friday. The 2023 secret spy
balloons symposium I hosted this

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01:46:55,620 --> 01:46:59,850
with my husband Ben and friend
Marina. We were happy to see 17

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01:46:59,850 --> 01:47:04,110
Comrades brave the springtime
blizzard conditions to come to

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01:47:04,110 --> 01:47:09,600
our meetup. I made a 33 themed
leather journal for the event

1762
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:12,240
and those who donated to the
show are entered for the chance

1763
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:16,620
to win it we raise 370 for the
show. The winner of the book was

1764
01:47:16,650 --> 01:47:23,040
Jody. Sir Knight of the East
side's wife So Jody gets the

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01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:28,590
credit for this particular
donation. Switcheroo.

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01:47:28,950 --> 01:47:32,190
Adam Curry: No, no, no, it's not
true. It comes after that.

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01:47:33,210 --> 01:47:36,630
John C Dvorak: She was so happy
to receive it. I chose to donate

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01:47:36,630 --> 01:47:41,760
370 on behalf of the future.
Knight Kaladin pedis first name

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01:47:41,790 --> 01:47:43,140
is pronounced Kaladin.

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01:47:44,850 --> 01:47:46,980
Adam Curry: So who So who do we
give it to kaladan

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01:47:47,010 --> 01:47:50,130
John C Dvorak: was was the very
popular we baby who graced our

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01:47:50,130 --> 01:47:52,860
presence that night to all of us
came and said hello and

1773
01:47:52,890 --> 01:47:55,890
everything made it home safely.
Thank you. See you next time.

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01:47:55,890 --> 01:47:59,280
Oh, in a serious question from
Marina, do spooks really attend

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01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:02,220
some meetups? Are they there?
There's usually apps I think

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01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:05,940
probably every meetup just one.
So yes, you had one there. You'd

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01:48:05,940 --> 01:48:09,600
probably knew who it was. As far
as I can tell this says Jody.

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01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:13,260
The winner of the book was Jody

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01:48:13,830 --> 01:48:19,710
Adam Curry: vs. But I chose to
donate the 370 From today on

1780
01:48:19,710 --> 01:48:24,570
behalf of future Knight Khaled
and pedis. I as far as I'm

1781
01:48:24,570 --> 01:48:28,650
concerned that the preacher Rue
it which is also highlighted in

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01:48:28,650 --> 01:48:33,480
black are my in bold as Jay did
that. Yeah. So Jay agrees with

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01:48:33,480 --> 01:48:40,320
me. I would say that this is to
kaladan Okay, all right. Good.

1784
01:48:40,440 --> 01:48:44,130
And thank you very much Ashley.
For my beautiful because I

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01:48:44,130 --> 01:48:50,160
received my my beautiful leather
notebook with the 33 on it. The

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01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:52,170
one that you we talked about
when she donated

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01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:54,180
John C Dvorak: yes, they can
move a week ago.

1788
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:59,250
Adam Curry: Yes. And I decided
to use it for my notes for every

1789
01:48:59,250 --> 01:49:03,840
single podcast I do. So you know
when I write down titles and

1790
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:05,310
other stuff, I thought it would
be kind of

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01:49:05,370 --> 01:49:08,790
John C Dvorak: last a couple of
months. It's pretty thick last a

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01:49:08,790 --> 01:49:13,230
while you do 56789 10 podcasts a
day.

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01:49:14,310 --> 01:49:19,230
Adam Curry: Sven Granholm and
Hapeville ga 345 dot o five

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01:49:19,230 --> 01:49:23,820
okay, happy 71st birthday to
John C 45th. To meet 41st To me,

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01:49:23,970 --> 01:49:29,550
sweet 16 to my daughter Isla the
fifth to nice Leona and third to

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01:49:29,550 --> 01:49:34,290
bestfriend daughter. l all
basically on the fifth. This

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01:49:34,290 --> 01:49:38,400
literally is the whole note. No
jingles no karma from Thompson

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01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:41,370
main. All right, thank you
swing. Good note.

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01:49:42,780 --> 01:49:49,530
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Sam Onan
Eden Prairie Minnesota 33371. So

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01:49:49,530 --> 01:49:53,070
I assume that's my Happy
Birthday note. And all he does

1801
01:49:53,070 --> 01:49:56,730
the he wins today with the note
that says thanks.

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01:49:57,780 --> 01:50:00,690
Adam Curry: Good one, by the way
from the PIO box. So I also got

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01:50:00,690 --> 01:50:06,330
my area 51 A schwag with my with
a little flying saucer and I

1804
01:50:06,330 --> 01:50:11,070
also got the Castel Solano did
you get the costal Solana?

1805
01:50:11,100 --> 01:50:13,950
John C Dvorak: Yes. Well, I
forgot what it was but yeah, I

1806
01:50:13,950 --> 01:50:15,570
got some it's beard and

1807
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:17,700
Adam Curry: mustache wax but
also well yeah

1808
01:50:17,700 --> 01:50:19,920
John C Dvorak: so ton of it.
Yeah, I forgot a bunch of beard

1809
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:23,670
mustache wax which I handed over
to Brennan. Well, you can

1810
01:50:23,670 --> 01:50:27,000
Adam Curry: also Who's that?
That's Jay's boyfriend. All

1811
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:29,910
right. You can also use it on
your skin though after shaving.

1812
01:50:29,910 --> 01:50:34,620
So I've tried that and it seems
like a fabulous product. Next on

1813
01:50:34,620 --> 01:50:38,640
the list. We have Matt pain from
Taylor, Wisconsin. Our favorite

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01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:41,910
333 dot 33. In the morning,
gents, Matt here from the Coulee

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01:50:41,910 --> 01:50:45,600
Valley area of the dairy capital
of the world, Wisconsin. About a

1816
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:48,300
month ago I walked into work
when I slipped on the ice fell

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01:50:48,300 --> 01:50:52,740
to the pavement broke my femur.
Two surgeries later, I'm mostly

1818
01:50:52,740 --> 01:50:55,020
healed but still bedridden for
another week until I can

1819
01:50:55,020 --> 01:50:58,080
hopefully put weight on it. This
is not a great note. Things Oh,

1820
01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:02,940
here we go. Things in
healthcare. No. Well, it's a

1821
01:51:02,940 --> 01:51:07,620
boots on the ground. Who are
boots in the bed. Things in

1822
01:51:07,620 --> 01:51:10,140
health care up here are in
crisis. Believe me, brother,

1823
01:51:10,140 --> 01:51:14,040
it's everywhere. This hospital
fired approximately 10% of their

1824
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:16,470
staff because they wouldn't
accept the vaccine into their

1825
01:51:16,470 --> 01:51:20,130
lives in the excuse for every
hiccup in patient care or staff

1826
01:51:20,130 --> 01:51:24,060
use use is either COVID or lack
of staffing. The nurses CNAs

1827
01:51:24,060 --> 01:51:26,280
physical therapists and
providers have been great, but

1828
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:29,490
there's a sense of a crisis that
seems to hang in the air. We've

1829
01:51:29,490 --> 01:51:31,350
heard this from people in
Arizona for this for people

1830
01:51:31,350 --> 01:51:34,560
everywhere. So we'd like to
extend some much needed karma to

1831
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:36,810
the hard working staff that are
helping patients and medical

1832
01:51:36,810 --> 01:51:39,000
centers everywhere. Yes, a lot
of them listen to the show as

1833
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:42,510
well. Shout out to Kevin Alpha
Charlie seven keto November who

1834
01:51:42,510 --> 01:51:46,800
despite changing call signs a
lot spoke is a solid dude that

1835
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:50,580
hit me in the mouth circus
episode 760 Kevin has a

1836
01:51:50,580 --> 01:51:53,970
sustaining donor who is thus
definitely not a douchebag Plus

1837
01:51:53,970 --> 01:51:57,930
he's an up Arizona where no one
slips on anything. I however,

1838
01:51:57,930 --> 01:52:00,750
while donating before have
received far more value from no

1839
01:52:00,750 --> 01:52:03,990
agenda than what I've given to a
deducing for moi is definitely

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01:52:03,990 --> 01:52:04,590
appreciate

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01:52:06,270 --> 01:52:08,100
Unknown: you spend deed deuced

1842
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:14,250
Adam Curry: and then he says
thanks for all you've done Love

1843
01:52:14,250 --> 01:52:17,130
and Light jingles. I'll take a
goat scream that made it sound

1844
01:52:17,130 --> 01:52:21,990
when my femur snapped. Have you
seen that juice? And an LG why?

1845
01:52:22,710 --> 01:52:28,800
Okay, well we have all of that
for you. Oh my gosh. Can you see

1846
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:33,390
that juice? All done for you
sir. Thank you very much. 73

1847
01:52:33,390 --> 01:52:38,100
years from Matt kilo Bravo nine
uniform Juliet echo 73 is kilo

1848
01:52:38,100 --> 01:52:39,210
five Alpha Charlie, Charlie.

1849
01:52:39,810 --> 01:52:43,500
John C Dvorak: Sure, faith in
Heidelberg, Deutschland

1850
01:52:43,500 --> 01:52:47,100
Heidelberg thank you for
creating this show. You keep

1851
01:52:47,100 --> 01:52:51,120
putting out in those outstanding
product I'd like to request some

1852
01:52:51,180 --> 01:52:57,480
find a relationship karma cheers
sir faith pronounced sir fight

1853
01:52:57,600 --> 01:52:58,710
sir fight.

1854
01:52:59,010 --> 01:53:01,500
Adam Curry: May I will give you
that karma may I recommend you

1855
01:53:01,500 --> 01:53:04,110
go to a no agenda meetup. That's
where you can find it. You've

1856
01:53:04,110 --> 01:53:05,460
Unknown: got karma.

1857
01:53:06,150 --> 01:53:08,610
Adam Curry: Connections
protection. Brother. Eric

1858
01:53:08,610 --> 01:53:14,640
hearkens Venus. Vina noise stops
the new wieners town. Oh Rick

1859
01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:19,860
Harkins. 333 Thank you. Austria
I might add. Yes. Do you Adam

1860
01:53:19,860 --> 01:53:22,650
and John Happy birthday to you
that one happy birthday to you

1861
01:53:22,650 --> 01:53:26,790
keep up keep it up you guys rock
to this is my first donation,

1862
01:53:26,790 --> 01:53:33,750
please deduce me? You've been de
deuced and finally number three,

1863
01:53:33,780 --> 01:53:36,930
please give jobs karma for my
smokin hot girlfriend. Eva.

1864
01:53:37,110 --> 01:53:40,020
Thank you for everything you do.
And thank you alright. Jobs,

1865
01:53:40,170 --> 01:53:49,110
jobs, jobs and jobs. Or jobs.
With a go,

1866
01:53:50,430 --> 01:53:55,980
John C Dvorak: Johnny Oh, in
East Dubuque, Illinois. Hey guys

1867
01:53:55,980 --> 01:53:59,610
discovered the podcast when Adam
was on Jerry in July 2021

1868
01:53:59,610 --> 01:54:02,760
enjoyed Adam on headbangers ball
back in the day. This is my

1869
01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:06,660
first donation at 333 Sorry it
took so long I know he disliked

1870
01:54:06,660 --> 01:54:10,650
long notes but I feel like I
have some content to add if not

1871
01:54:10,650 --> 01:54:14,040
relevant. Leave it at a huge as
I can you leave it at a huge

1872
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:17,130
thank you for all you do. I
spend most of my adult life

1873
01:54:17,130 --> 01:54:19,470
working in the marketing
advertising field convincing

1874
01:54:19,470 --> 01:54:25,440
people to buy crap they don't
need. Adam quit outing all of

1875
01:54:25,440 --> 01:54:29,640
your secrets. By the way. I can
tell you I can tell you after

1876
01:54:29,670 --> 01:54:33,150
long discussions with colleagues
about social media advertising

1877
01:54:33,150 --> 01:54:37,470
tick tock is taking over and we
have no doubt the entire China

1878
01:54:37,470 --> 01:54:41,430
threat is just a move to squeeze
them out. There you go. It used

1879
01:54:41,430 --> 01:54:44,610
to be that you wanted to pay
Google to be on the top at the

1880
01:54:44,610 --> 01:54:47,640
top when someone did a search
that is not the case anymore.

1881
01:54:47,700 --> 01:54:52,440
Now that Tik Tok is so popular.
Our research shows that 80% of

1882
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:57,630
the under 25 age group goes to
tick tock that search. Anyway,

1883
01:54:57,630 --> 01:54:59,190
thanks for the great podcast

1884
01:54:59,250 --> 01:55:01,680
Adam Curry: and we got that For
my sister Willow who wrote that

1885
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:05,580
in her thesis from actual Google
infant from Google's own

1886
01:55:05,580 --> 01:55:10,260
research in Google Italy, that's
how it works. And there's a tip

1887
01:55:10,260 --> 01:55:13,050
for everybody. I agree it's
great content. Anybody who's in

1888
01:55:13,050 --> 01:55:15,090
marketing communications, there
you go.

1889
01:55:15,570 --> 01:55:18,810
John C Dvorak: Rowling call your
tick tock salesperson

1890
01:55:18,810 --> 01:55:19,800
immediately.

1891
01:55:22,170 --> 01:55:26,280
Adam Curry: Today to get in on
some great offers. Rob is in

1892
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:30,150
York South Carolina comes in
with 321 dot 23 says donating

1893
01:55:30,150 --> 01:55:34,650
and donating an odor an odor of
my an odor. Hello in honor of my

1894
01:55:34,650 --> 01:55:39,060
smokin hot wife Jade happy happy
30th birthday. Please play the

1895
01:55:39,060 --> 01:55:42,180
vocal fry jingle and add her to
the birthday list rob from New

1896
01:55:42,180 --> 01:55:43,770
York South Carolina Of course.

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01:55:44,100 --> 01:55:47,820
Unknown: You know obviously, I
read I read The New York Times

1898
01:55:47,820 --> 01:55:52,170
like all day long mainly on my
iPad

1899
01:55:56,910 --> 01:56:00,390
John C Dvorak: sir Luke in Walla
Walla, Washington, ITM gents

1900
01:56:00,390 --> 01:56:03,990
Happy Birthday, John. Here's
your favorite gift a donation.

1901
01:56:04,350 --> 01:56:09,600
Jingles please. Jill Abramson?
What was what you were reading

1902
01:56:09,630 --> 01:56:14,460
Adam Curry: two in a row? No.
No. Yes. For a vocal fry jingle.

1903
01:56:14,460 --> 01:56:16,890
That's that's our vocal fro. Do
we have a different vocal fry

1904
01:56:16,890 --> 01:56:19,800
jingle? No. So it's two in a
row.

1905
01:56:20,340 --> 01:56:23,160
John C Dvorak: Yeah, two, which
is a good example of random

1906
01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:27,180
number because this is
ridiculous. Yeah, Jill Abramson.

1907
01:56:27,330 --> 01:56:35,280
Abrams son vocal fry, orange at
jobs karma at the Pelosi Trump

1908
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:40,410
jaw of Joe variety a big one.
Sir Luca of the south east.

1909
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:44,760
Unknown: You know, obviously, I
read I read The New York Times

1910
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:53,790
like all day long, mainly on my
iPad. All jobs, jobs, jobs,

1911
01:56:53,820 --> 01:56:57,060
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

1912
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:06,870
John C Dvorak: Brenda Romano in
Petaluma, California. Hello no

1913
01:57:06,870 --> 01:57:11,460
agenda this is a shout out to
you John and Adam. for

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01:57:11,460 --> 01:57:15,900
continuing to advocate for free
thought and open discussion we

1915
01:57:15,900 --> 01:57:20,370
don't advocate one year any we
just do it happy what Yeah, we

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01:57:20,370 --> 01:57:22,860
don't advocate it for anything
to be honest about it. Do it.

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01:57:23,430 --> 01:57:27,660
Happy one year any to my
husband, Mike Romano. I needed

1918
01:57:27,660 --> 01:57:36,420
de douching and goat scream
deuced in his request to read on

1919
01:57:36,420 --> 01:57:38,760
Sunday, April 16. We don't do
that. Sorry.

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01:57:39,300 --> 01:57:44,430
Adam Curry: You can ask us.
Before that show, de de Becky

1921
01:57:44,430 --> 01:57:48,240
and Sarah Mike from Katy, Texas
courser Texans come in Associate

1922
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:52,830
Executive partnership with 243
dot 60. You passed over to Reese

1923
01:57:52,860 --> 01:57:57,000
de Reese Morris, Hannah. Well,
Therese Morris and Hanover

1924
01:57:57,000 --> 01:58:00,900
Massachusetts $250 No note
couldn't find one. Unless you

1925
01:58:00,900 --> 01:58:05,820
have one job. Then we get a
double up karma for you. You've

1926
01:58:05,820 --> 01:58:11,910
got karma. And I'll do Dame
Becky and Sir Mike from Katy,

1927
01:58:11,910 --> 01:58:15,810
Texas now to 4360 Please
credited to our honorable number

1928
01:58:15,810 --> 01:58:21,210
one son Chris Kinney. Italian
thin Kiante in celebration of

1929
01:58:21,210 --> 01:58:24,420
his 47th trip around the sun on
April 6, Chris hit us in the

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01:58:24,420 --> 01:58:28,110
mouth a couple of years ago, and
we are forever grateful. It's

1931
01:58:28,110 --> 01:58:33,150
197 dot 64 His birth year and 46
for his birthday April 16. Becky

1932
01:58:33,150 --> 01:58:36,930
and great have the great Katy
Prairie and Sir Mike have the

1933
01:58:36,930 --> 01:58:39,780
great Katy Perry. They don't eat
a lot. I love those two. That

1934
01:58:39,780 --> 01:58:40,290
sounds so

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01:58:40,290 --> 01:58:41,940
John C Dvorak: that's a that's a
switcheroo

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01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:45,960
Adam Curry: Good point. Good
point, Chris. Kenny. I should

1937
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:49,770
put that in now. And they sound
like fun folk.

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01:58:50,370 --> 01:58:53,580
John C Dvorak: Yeah. DeMasters
next on the list our friend. Oh,

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01:58:53,850 --> 01:59:02,580
she's in Tokyo. $222.71 Happy
birthday dear John. You You

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remain a chick magnet. Much Love
Day master Duchess of Japan and

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all the disputed islands of the
Japan Sea.

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Adam Curry: I would I would have
to concur. Yeah, a lot. A lot of

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the no agenda ladies at the
meetups. They they think you're

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a chick magnet.

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John C Dvorak: You're not gonna
door.

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Adam Curry: Justin pol gar Santa
Cruz California 222 dot 33.

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John, I love that you were born
the same year as my dad. It

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echoes both both a finely aged
authority and a healthy

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rebellious rebellious flair in
my being. We all know what

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you're talking about Justin?
Since JCD Oh, good since JCD

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01:59:39,540 --> 01:59:42,450
read my last note kindly have
Mr. Curry read this one in the

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morning my water brothers of the
Gitmo nation. Adam did you enjoy

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01:59:46,350 --> 01:59:49,290
your care pack package with a
Migdal of shrinking botanical

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chocolate from yes cocoa cocoa
cacao? Yes, I did very much. I

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think I ate it all. And I loved
it. It was good. I had someone

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Yes, it was it's good stuff.
Have I made it a point to send

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this pods audio waves directly
into the chocolate production

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room, thus making it the best
chocolate in the universe and

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all no agenda slaves get 11% off
with the code ITN. And yes,

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koco.com Yeah, that's how you do
it. I also want to remind all

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responsible listeners with human
resources age 14 Plus that

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02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:25,230
serial mouth punching. Danny
Katz is hosting her one time

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02:00:25,230 --> 02:00:30,090
only 10 week live virtual class
for pop propaganda. Oh, it's

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actually a fun little book she
made. I've read it. One of my

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favorite books for increasing
lumens in mind. Plus, Adam,

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you're on the back cover. That's
right. I wrote a blurb forget

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the war in Ukraine. It's fading
out anyway. I do believe it's

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the daily war on words that
requires our attention. Check

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02:00:45,810 --> 02:00:48,570
out Danny catch.com For more
word weapons don't be a

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02:00:48,570 --> 02:00:52,920
douchebag jingle request
shapeshifting Jews Well, we're

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02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:56,940
going to presume that you are
entitled to request that is

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02:00:56,940 --> 02:01:00,390
there anything else in the end
is there anything else the

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02:01:00,390 --> 02:01:03,870
jingle Cyclopedia with Gene
Wilder he's such a generality

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02:01:03,870 --> 02:01:07,830
with anything from Gene Wilder
actually love it. Love it Love

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is love it love it love is lit
there is no exit job last Justin

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02:01:11,100 --> 02:01:15,360
Frank Paul guard Minister of
chocolate give me a little karma

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02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:15,690
as well.

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Unknown: You've got karma

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02:01:31,590 --> 02:01:34,530
John C Dvorak: the non Anonymous
is in from Truth or Consequences

1980
02:01:34,530 --> 02:01:38,490
New Mexico, which is actually a
name of a town in the morning up

1981
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:42,630
to you Jen says choose to remain
anonymous mostly to spare you

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02:01:42,630 --> 02:01:46,350
from breaking your jaws and
pronouncing my name. Please

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deduce me bad deed de deuced
goat karma goat I'm sorry goat

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in Yak karma my way my much love
to you both into the no agenda

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nation.

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Unknown: Karma

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Adam Curry: and our last Oh no.
We have to associate executive

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02:02:10,830 --> 02:02:14,790
producers left I'll do them sir
Eric from Auburn Alabama. $200

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02:02:14,790 --> 02:02:17,760
says in the morning citizens
keep up the great jokes are Eric

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with a C and then the last one
from teal Busby. Jackson. Is it

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02:02:24,540 --> 02:02:26,040
Missouri? Ms.

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John C Dvorak: Modesto,
Mississippi, but what about you

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got who she is do because
there's Andrus and Sir Eric, you

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02:02:33,300 --> 02:02:33,690
did both.

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Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I missed
Andrus. I was so short. Canal

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02:02:37,380 --> 02:02:42,900
canal. Andrea, Andrea Vargas,
Andrea vagas Canal Fulton, Ohio.

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208 simply said you guys kick
ass and then I'll do the final

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one. Thank you very much,
Andrew. Thank you, sir Eric. And

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02:02:49,200 --> 02:02:51,960
then to Busby in the morning.
Thank you, John out for the best

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02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:55,740
podcast. In years I've been
freely suckling, from no agendas

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02:02:55,740 --> 02:02:59,520
content teeth for too long time
to step into the community. As I

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02:02:59,520 --> 02:03:05,010
proclaim in the meet up report.
Today I am being de dos de

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02:03:05,010 --> 02:03:09,720
deuced. Since my move from the
coast to Jackson, I haven't put

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02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:12,090
much effort into making friends
in the area. So I want to give a

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02:03:12,090 --> 02:03:15,060
shout out to surf Foreman and
the MS. Metro Meetup group.

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02:03:15,060 --> 02:03:17,280
Thank you for dragging me out of
the house last Saturday. This is

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what these meetups are good for
no jingles. Just karma for

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everybody in Mississippi who was
who was hit by the recent

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tornadoes. As a resident of the
landmass between New Orleans and

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Mobile, Alabama during Katrina,
I have been there not to not

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only lose your home, but in a
sense your entire world is a

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02:03:35,010 --> 02:03:38,310
truly surreal situation that
can't be described or imagined.

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Unless experienced. No agenda
nation knows that, and shouldn't

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02:03:42,540 --> 02:03:44,700
look solely towards the
government at a time like this,

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02:03:44,700 --> 02:03:48,900
which is what means to turn us
on to what we can do. And he

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02:03:48,900 --> 02:03:52,740
actually asked me to put this
link into which I will do next

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02:03:52,740 --> 02:03:56,940
to his name for a GoFundMe. It's
just for Ms. tornado relief. Of

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02:03:56,940 --> 02:03:59,730
course, we will support that for
you so people can help and don't

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02:03:59,730 --> 02:04:03,270
just look for the government to
help you agree 100%. And he says

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02:04:03,270 --> 02:04:06,060
full disclosure. I'm currently
running a political campaign in

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the Southern District of
Mississippi. But I've been able

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02:04:08,700 --> 02:04:11,790
to divert 100% of my fundraising
efforts from the campaign to

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tornado relief. After all, love
is lit. Thank you for your

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02:04:14,850 --> 02:04:17,250
courage. And thank you very
much. And we will give that

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02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:20,880
karma to all of the people who
deserve it. Thank you very much.

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Unknown: You've got karma.

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John C Dvorak: And that will be
the conclusion to our Associate

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Executive Producer and the
fabulous executive producers for

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show 1544 If I'm not mistaken as
we move along,

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Adam Curry: that is exactly the
number and again thank you for

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02:04:39,660 --> 02:04:42,180
these executive and Associate
Executive Producers ship

2032
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donations, real credits, you can
use them anywhere if you want to

2033
02:04:45,450 --> 02:04:51,060
become one of these producers go
here for.org/and A thank you all

2034
02:04:51,060 --> 02:04:56,190
very much for supporting us for
episode 1544. Our formula is

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02:04:56,190 --> 02:04:59,940
this. We go out. We get people
in the mouth

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I want to play a couple of dumb
clips, media clips about the

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Trump indictment. Do you have a
you don't have anything on that?

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I think I have maybe one you got
an overcoat overview clip or

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something or

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John C Dvorak: No, I think I
said at least.

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Adam Curry: Okay, let's see what
to do I have an overview. Yeah,

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here we go. Oh, this is good.
Because it's Jeff, the gays.

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02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:41,550
Jeff, the gays always fun to
listen to. He could just be

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02:05:41,550 --> 02:05:44,010
reading the phone book and I'd
listen to Jeff engage

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02:05:44,040 --> 02:05:46,290
Unknown: with the former
president's arrival here in New

2046
02:05:46,290 --> 02:05:50,640
York. The city is on high alert
tonight. Trump Tower, the 58

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02:05:50,640 --> 02:05:53,310
storey building in the heart of
one of the world's most famous

2048
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avenues is all but surrounded by
security barricades swamped by

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police and Secret Service.
Police still is there are no

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02:06:00,810 --> 02:06:04,350
specific or credible threats but
they are prepared for violence

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02:06:04,350 --> 02:06:09,090
are about 35,000 police officers
in uniform in the city right now

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02:06:09,090 --> 02:06:11,910
ready to deploy. If they're
problems,

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02:06:11,940 --> 02:06:16,440
they may be some rabble rousers.
Thinking about coming to our

2054
02:06:16,440 --> 02:06:17,970
city tomorrow a message?

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John C Dvorak: Sorry, I can't
listen to this guy without

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02:06:21,420 --> 02:06:22,710
hearing our guy.

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Adam Curry: The mayor, the
mayor, there's a there's a bit

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02:06:26,610 --> 02:06:29,070
at the end where is totally our
guy.

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Unknown: There may be some
rabble rousers. Thinking about

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02:06:33,450 --> 02:06:38,040
coming to our city tomorrow, a
message is clear and simple.

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Control yourselves.

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Investigators from the FBI, NYPD
and Secret Service are combing

2063
02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:48,360
through social media for any
possible plot similar to the

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02:06:48,360 --> 02:06:52,290
January 6 attack. They are
seeing calls for violence

2065
02:06:52,290 --> 02:06:55,350
directed at government
officials, including Manhattan

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02:06:55,350 --> 02:06:59,130
district attorney Alvin Bragg
whose security was recently

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02:06:59,130 --> 02:06:59,940
increased

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investigating any threats that
may be made to the DEA or any of

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02:07:03,030 --> 02:07:04,020
his his staff.

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02:07:04,050 --> 02:07:06,630
New York City Mayor Eric Adams
assembled.

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Adam Curry: Even Bill Gates is
doing it now. New York City

2072
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Mayor he even said Mayor like
the mayor

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Unknown: to the DA or any of his
his staff.

2074
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New York City Mayor Eric Adams
singled out Georgia Republican

2075
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:22,680
Marjorie Taylor Greene who was
joining a pro Trump rally near

2076
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Manhattan criminal court
tomorrow.

2077
02:07:24,930 --> 02:07:29,040
People like Marjorie Taylor
Greene, who is known to spread

2078
02:07:29,040 --> 02:07:33,300
Ms. misinformation and hate
speech. Have she stayed as she's

2079
02:07:33,300 --> 02:07:37,950
coming to town while you're in
town be on your best behavior.

2080
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Now that's

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Adam Curry: a pretty good
overview. And as we said, it was

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02:07:43,230 --> 02:07:48,060
mainly social media people and
and mainstream people. It was

2083
02:07:48,060 --> 02:07:53,970
just a dumb circus. Couple
things of note. I would say most

2084
02:07:53,970 --> 02:08:00,180
of the of the print articles had
very little on, on the

2085
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indictments, you'll hear a few
clips it wasn't really much in

2086
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there. But the term that Trump
was admonished by the judge to

2087
02:08:11,940 --> 02:08:15,330
remain from a rhetoric that
could K call could inflame or

2088
02:08:15,330 --> 02:08:19,590
cause civil arrest. Every single
out of Ed Trump was admonished

2089
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were from what I understand. The
judge said that to all parties.

2090
02:08:23,820 --> 02:08:28,980
But besides that, ABC, when I
think this there might be some

2091
02:08:28,980 --> 02:08:34,110
legality to this or illegality,
when they aired news reports of

2092
02:08:34,110 --> 02:08:39,390
Trump speaking at Mar a Lago, he
was behind you know, the Trump

2093
02:08:39,390 --> 02:08:43,020
are running for president
lectern, they blurred out his

2094
02:08:43,020 --> 02:08:48,180
text number that you can text
for donations or information or

2095
02:08:48,180 --> 02:08:50,460
whatever that is, is that not

2096
02:08:50,910 --> 02:08:53,700
John C Dvorak: illegal? Can you
do it? You blurt out whatever

2097
02:08:53,700 --> 02:08:55,200
you want. But if you do it for

2098
02:08:55,200 --> 02:08:57,270
Adam Curry: one candidate and
not for the other?

2099
02:08:59,400 --> 02:09:01,470
John C Dvorak: Well, that's a
good question. That may be a

2100
02:09:01,470 --> 02:09:04,710
player i But I think those laws
are there used to be a law

2101
02:09:04,710 --> 02:09:07,950
against doing something like
that doing? Yeah, Dad used to be

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02:09:07,950 --> 02:09:11,790
a fairness doctrine, which is,
was repealed in 87. So I think

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02:09:11,790 --> 02:09:15,690
they can do whatever they want.
But I watched that entire Mara

2104
02:09:15,690 --> 02:09:20,910
Lago speech, and it was it was
most of it was shot. Whoo. It

2105
02:09:20,910 --> 02:09:25,260
was a shared feed. And it was
you never got to see that. That

2106
02:09:25,260 --> 02:09:27,510
thing is that maybe for a split
second, they couldn't have

2107
02:09:27,510 --> 02:09:29,790
blurted out for long while they
blurred it out

2108
02:09:29,790 --> 02:09:35,670
Adam Curry: on social media. Or
online, whatever. So here's your

2109
02:09:35,670 --> 02:09:39,750
skin shed. Yeah, of course.
Here's, I have a couple of

2110
02:09:39,750 --> 02:09:42,690
clips. These are all basically
just with opinions, and we wind

2111
02:09:42,690 --> 02:09:47,160
up with an interesting one.
We'll start with ABC with

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Jonathan Karl.

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02:09:48,120 --> 02:09:50,250
Unknown: We're also learning
more about the dynamic in that

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02:09:50,250 --> 02:09:53,190
courtroom after the political
rhetoric in the weeks before all

2115
02:09:53,190 --> 02:09:56,340
of this the former president
taking aim. Then the power shift

2116
02:09:56,370 --> 02:09:58,770
with the former president now a
criminal defendant before the

2117
02:09:58,770 --> 02:10:01,470
judge. Let's pray ABC chief
Washington correspondent

2118
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Jonathan Karl live here in New
York for our coverage in John,

2119
02:10:04,050 --> 02:10:07,350
our team in that room describing
a very different dynamic playing

2120
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out in court today.

2121
02:10:08,970 --> 02:10:12,540
David Donald Trump is accustomed
to being the center of attention

2122
02:10:12,660 --> 02:10:16,530
and in control in whatever room
he walks into. That was

2123
02:10:16,530 --> 02:10:20,970
decidedly not the case. Today
inside that courtroom as he

2124
02:10:20,970 --> 02:10:24,810
walked in, Trump looked as
profoundly unhappy as I have

2125
02:10:24,810 --> 02:10:28,710
ever seen him a deep scowl on
his face. He was in the

2126
02:10:28,710 --> 02:10:32,580
courtroom for 57 minutes,
surrounded by his lawyers,

2127
02:10:32,790 --> 02:10:36,810
police officers standing behind
him. He had to wait for about a

2128
02:10:36,810 --> 02:10:40,620
full five minutes before the
judge entered the room. And when

2129
02:10:40,620 --> 02:10:43,710
the judge walked in, Trump had
to do what everybody else had to

2130
02:10:43,710 --> 02:10:47,370
do in that room stand. It will
be the judge calling the shots.

2131
02:10:47,820 --> 02:10:51,570
Donald Trump, our reporter in
the room, Olivia Rubin noticed

2132
02:10:51,570 --> 02:10:56,130
that Trump spoke so softly that
at one point, the judge said I

2133
02:10:56,130 --> 02:10:59,550
can't hear you and asked him to
repeat what he was saying,

2134
02:10:59,640 --> 02:11:03,150
speaking softly. That's not
something we see Donald Trump

2135
02:11:03,150 --> 02:11:09,510
do, ever, if at all. And I
suspect, David that as we go on,

2136
02:11:09,510 --> 02:11:11,490
he will not be speaking softly
for long,

2137
02:11:11,850 --> 02:11:15,120
Adam Curry: riveting report. He
had to stand and spoke softly.

2138
02:11:15,480 --> 02:11:18,420
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have to
remember that that Carl is the

2139
02:11:18,420 --> 02:11:22,500
head of the Washington. Yeah,
the press corps, the press corps

2140
02:11:22,500 --> 02:11:26,250
that that goes to the White
House and tried to shut up that

2141
02:11:26,250 --> 02:11:27,420
poor African guy,

2142
02:11:27,450 --> 02:11:31,920
Adam Curry: but you know, and I,
I didn't see any of this.

2143
02:11:32,280 --> 02:11:36,840
Because I was in extras in
Austin, I was doing a show with

2144
02:11:37,230 --> 02:11:41,970
Marty bent from the CFTC
podcast. And so I was only

2145
02:11:41,970 --> 02:11:44,520
listening to stuff on the way
back. And I figured out pretty

2146
02:11:44,520 --> 02:11:48,240
quickly that the no one really
had anything that would show

2147
02:11:48,240 --> 02:11:51,330
that Trump is the walls are
closing in. He's going to jail,

2148
02:11:51,330 --> 02:11:56,880
none of that. And even on CNN,
John Bolton, who is now a CNN

2149
02:11:56,880 --> 02:11:59,820
correspondent. Here's what he
said big picture.

2150
02:11:59,820 --> 02:12:01,020
Unknown: What do you think of
the indictment?

2151
02:12:01,380 --> 02:12:04,320
Well, speaking as someone who
very strongly does not want

2152
02:12:04,320 --> 02:12:06,660
Donald Trump to get the
Republican presidential

2153
02:12:06,660 --> 02:12:09,810
nomination, I'm extraordinarily
distressed by this document. I

2154
02:12:09,810 --> 02:12:14,010
think this is even weaker than I
feared it would be. And I think

2155
02:12:14,280 --> 02:12:18,300
it's it's easily subject to
being dismissed or a quick

2156
02:12:18,300 --> 02:12:21,270
acquittal for Trump. Just
speaking going back to the days

2157
02:12:21,270 --> 02:12:24,060
when I represented Jim Buckley
and Jean McCarthy and the

2158
02:12:24,060 --> 02:12:27,810
constitutional challenge to the
underlying federal statute here

2159
02:12:27,990 --> 02:12:32,670
passed in 1974. I can say there
is no basis in the statutory

2160
02:12:32,670 --> 02:12:35,970
language to say that Trump's
behavior forms either a

2161
02:12:35,970 --> 02:12:39,930
contribution or an expenditure
under federal law, the two key

2162
02:12:40,110 --> 02:12:44,460
definitions at issue here. If it
did, it would mean that every

2163
02:12:44,460 --> 02:12:48,240
single expenditure a candidate
made could be taken to have

2164
02:12:48,570 --> 02:12:51,840
something to do with this
campaign. Do I buy a $1 comb to

2165
02:12:51,840 --> 02:12:56,970
comb my hair or $10? comb to
comb my hair? If you can

2166
02:12:56,970 --> 02:13:00,120
construe the statute to cover
this behavior, then I think it

2167
02:13:00,120 --> 02:13:03,300
violates the First Amendment
because you're deeply into

2168
02:13:03,300 --> 02:13:07,410
territory that that makes the
statute absolutely federal

2169
02:13:07,410 --> 02:13:10,830
statute, too vague for
enforcement. And as what I

2170
02:13:10,830 --> 02:13:13,650
understood the district attorney
to say that he thinks there's a

2171
02:13:13,650 --> 02:13:17,520
New York election law involved
here, all I can say is the

2172
02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:21,450
Federal Election Campaign Act
absolutely preempts any state or

2173
02:13:21,450 --> 02:13:24,390
local law to the contrary, how
could it be otherwise? You've

2174
02:13:24,390 --> 02:13:27,630
got one law governing corporate
finance and a presidential

2175
02:13:27,630 --> 02:13:30,180
election at the federal level,
you're going to have 50 state

2176
02:13:30,180 --> 02:13:32,940
laws interfering with it. So
he's just wrong on the

2177
02:13:32,940 --> 02:13:34,740
applicability of the New York
statute.

2178
02:13:35,490 --> 02:13:36,270
Adam Curry: Oh,

2179
02:13:36,750 --> 02:13:38,220
John C Dvorak: you know, a lot
of people I've watched

2180
02:13:38,250 --> 02:13:42,240
everything I saw, what's his
name, the DA could do his little

2181
02:13:42,240 --> 02:13:46,260
press conference, which was
short. And I watched Trump as he

2182
02:13:46,260 --> 02:13:50,460
went to the show the full plane
flying in the air and landing.

2183
02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:56,460
And the DA made a huge point in
his press conference to say that

2184
02:13:56,460 --> 02:13:59,160
this was about New York law had
nothing to do with federal law.

2185
02:13:59,160 --> 02:14:02,400
And he almost I think he may
have actually said that. And so

2186
02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:09,090
all these analysts who bring up
federal law about to analyze

2187
02:14:09,090 --> 02:14:12,570
this indictment, I don't know
what their what they've had any

2188
02:14:12,600 --> 02:14:16,980
did they listen to this guy? He
made a clear point. This has

2189
02:14:16,980 --> 02:14:21,840
nothing to do with any federal
law the way he sees it.

2190
02:14:22,380 --> 02:14:25,710
Adam Curry: Well, that's what
George Washington University law

2191
02:14:25,710 --> 02:14:31,230
professor Jonathan Turley said,
and he is he speaks for Fox

2192
02:14:31,230 --> 02:14:34,890
News, and I did my best to cut
out as much of Brett as I could.

2193
02:14:34,920 --> 02:14:35,040
Yeah.

2194
02:14:36,150 --> 02:14:38,310
John C Dvorak: Wait, wait,
before you play the fox news

2195
02:14:38,310 --> 02:14:40,950
clip. I will say another thing.
I mean, I did a lot of channel

2196
02:14:40,950 --> 02:14:44,760
swapping. And it the analysts
that were under different than I

2197
02:14:44,760 --> 02:14:47,910
have a clip from one of the
locals, but the analysts that

2198
02:14:47,910 --> 02:14:51,690
were on these different
channels, especially CBS versus

2199
02:14:51,690 --> 02:14:58,260
Fox couldn't be distance between
them as a million miles. It was

2200
02:14:58,260 --> 02:15:03,360
unbelievable to hear the The
analysts on CBS versus Fox, I

2201
02:15:03,360 --> 02:15:05,610
will say that from what I heard
from all these different

2202
02:15:05,610 --> 02:15:09,660
analysts, Fox was the only one
that was somewhat objective.

2203
02:15:10,320 --> 02:15:12,060
Adam Curry: When we play the
local analysis, is that what I'm

2204
02:15:12,060 --> 02:15:12,660
playing here?

2205
02:15:12,750 --> 02:15:14,610
John C Dvorak: No, no, you're
gonna play the you're gonna play

2206
02:15:14,610 --> 02:15:17,520
your clips. My local analysis is
I got three parter, and you can

2207
02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:18,510
finish. Okay. All right. Let

2208
02:15:18,510 --> 02:15:20,280
Unknown: me tell you, I've never
seen an indictment quite like

2209
02:15:20,280 --> 02:15:23,160
this one. That is the key
linchpin. That's how you get

2210
02:15:23,160 --> 02:15:26,340
beyond the statute of
limitations. I know a lot of

2211
02:15:26,340 --> 02:15:30,630
judges that would have been not
too pleased to receive an

2212
02:15:30,630 --> 02:15:33,240
indictment like this would have
said, you know, what the heck is

2213
02:15:33,240 --> 02:15:36,780
this mean? What are you
alleging, and brag, just sort of

2214
02:15:36,780 --> 02:15:40,080
waved it off and said, I don't
have to really say, but my

2215
02:15:40,080 --> 02:15:43,800
question is, how does the grand
jury understand what it was

2216
02:15:43,800 --> 02:15:46,620
doing? We'll see a little better
with the bill of particulars.

2217
02:15:47,010 --> 02:15:51,450
But it really raises concerns as
to how well the grand jury

2218
02:15:51,450 --> 02:15:55,260
understood these key linchpins
because this thing is a feeling

2219
02:15:55,260 --> 02:15:59,460
of like illegal Slurpee, it it's
instantly satisfying, but has no

2220
02:15:59,460 --> 02:16:03,030
nutritional value. There's
nothing there. The thing is,

2221
02:16:03,060 --> 02:16:05,370
this is basically what we
expected. You had people like

2222
02:16:05,370 --> 02:16:09,450
Lanny Davis, who represents it,
Michael Cohen saying, I'm

2223
02:16:09,450 --> 02:16:12,210
warning you there's going to be
a lot of new crimes here. And

2224
02:16:12,210 --> 02:16:14,640
it's going to there's gonna be a
lot of new facts. Well, it

2225
02:16:14,640 --> 02:16:17,910
wasn't. I mean, this was the
business falsification theory

2226
02:16:17,910 --> 02:16:21,510
that we've talked about. The
only surprising thing is that

2227
02:16:21,510 --> 02:16:24,420
brands seem to have solved the
question of his authority

2228
02:16:24,570 --> 02:16:28,860
through ambiguity. He just
removed any direct references to

2229
02:16:28,860 --> 02:16:32,580
what this underlying offense
was. And my guess is it's going

2230
02:16:32,580 --> 02:16:36,390
to be a federal election claim.
I mean, this the the state, the

2231
02:16:36,390 --> 02:16:41,250
reference of the state election
law was so general ambiguous, I

2232
02:16:41,250 --> 02:16:43,800
don't think that that could be
the it sustain this type of

2233
02:16:43,800 --> 02:16:46,170
actions. It's like a scene in
Braveheart when he says, like,

2234
02:16:46,170 --> 02:16:48,480
we didn't get dressed up for
nothing. I mean, it's, he's

2235
02:16:48,480 --> 02:16:52,920
hoping that this judge is going
to be very timid, and not throw

2236
02:16:52,920 --> 02:16:56,010
this out. But there are
substantial threshold legal

2237
02:16:56,010 --> 02:17:00,720
questions here. And this case
could collapse before it gets to

2238
02:17:00,720 --> 02:17:04,200
a trial. And this is not the
only judge that will have to

2239
02:17:04,200 --> 02:17:06,900
look at this. And I think that
has to weigh heavily on him.

2240
02:17:07,140 --> 02:17:11,190
Because there's no there there
now, whether he could fill in

2241
02:17:11,190 --> 02:17:14,460
those gaps we'll have to see.
But you would think if you were

2242
02:17:14,460 --> 02:17:17,430
going to indict a president, you
would, you would rise to that

2243
02:17:17,430 --> 02:17:21,510
moment of history and tell
people with precision what it is

2244
02:17:21,510 --> 02:17:23,160
that you want to convict him on.

2245
02:17:24,660 --> 02:17:30,780
Adam Curry: So I think both
Charlie and Carl and the

2246
02:17:30,780 --> 02:17:35,550
fortunate for what's his name?
Bolton, I think they're all

2247
02:17:35,550 --> 02:17:39,240
three of them are wrong. And the
best analysis did not come from

2248
02:17:39,240 --> 02:17:43,410
mainstream it came from Alan
Dershowitz, constitutional

2249
02:17:43,410 --> 02:17:47,070
lawyer, who we have liked when
he was a nutjob democrat and a

2250
02:17:47,070 --> 02:17:48,990
nutjob non Democrat. Sorry,

2251
02:17:48,990 --> 02:17:51,690
John C Dvorak: as I predicted
two newsletters ago Dersch would

2252
02:17:51,690 --> 02:17:52,350
show up.

2253
02:17:52,500 --> 02:17:54,180
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, he shows
it. Well, he had to show up on

2254
02:17:54,180 --> 02:17:57,930
Charlie Kirk's podcast, because
he can't can't buy himself a

2255
02:17:57,930 --> 02:18:01,230
spot on mainstream because, you
know, he's like, he's a

2256
02:18:01,230 --> 02:18:05,850
Democrat. So he can't be on Fox.
And then he defended Trump, so

2257
02:18:05,850 --> 02:18:09,930
he can't be on the on the on any
of the left wing media. But I

2258
02:18:09,930 --> 02:18:12,660
think he has the proper
analysis.

2259
02:18:12,720 --> 02:18:15,150
Unknown: I don't think I could
get this case dismissed so

2260
02:18:15,150 --> 02:18:18,870
easily. I don't think that I
don't think that if you had the

2261
02:18:18,870 --> 02:18:21,480
best lawyers in the history of
the world, Abraham Lincoln and

2262
02:18:21,480 --> 02:18:25,560
John Marshall, a New York City
judge would dismiss this case,

2263
02:18:25,560 --> 02:18:27,870
because that New York City
judges life would be over.

2264
02:18:28,260 --> 02:18:30,900
Everybody would point to him the
way they pointed to me when I

2265
02:18:30,900 --> 02:18:34,830
defended Trump, Oh, my. There's
the man who helped Trump get

2266
02:18:34,830 --> 02:18:37,200
free. So I don't think it's
going to be easy. I think he

2267
02:18:37,530 --> 02:18:43,800
probably will be convicted by
your jury who voted for Bragg

2268
02:18:43,800 --> 02:18:47,130
and voted for get Trump, it will
be reversed on appeal. It will

2269
02:18:47,130 --> 02:18:51,900
never be affirmed all the way up
to the Supreme Court, but brags

2270
02:18:51,900 --> 02:18:55,890
gonna be popular, he'll be
reelected. And and he'll

2271
02:18:55,890 --> 02:19:00,270
probably win his case. Unless
unless there is a change of

2272
02:19:00,270 --> 02:19:00,690
venue.

2273
02:19:01,860 --> 02:19:04,890
Adam Curry: I think that's the
proper analysis. I agree. 100%

2274
02:19:05,280 --> 02:19:11,190
No, you said 100% Now you're
doing it 100% 100% About your

2275
02:19:11,190 --> 02:19:12,600
local analysis. We do that now.

2276
02:19:12,630 --> 02:19:14,940
John C Dvorak: Now I have this I
got three clips are they're kind

2277
02:19:14,940 --> 02:19:17,700
of interesting. I think they
kind of work together. Okay.

2278
02:19:18,840 --> 02:19:23,790
First of all, this is a local
analysis that took place the day

2279
02:19:23,790 --> 02:19:27,540
before the indictment. And so
this is the kind of thing and I

2280
02:19:27,540 --> 02:19:30,480
got the guy's name. He's a
professor the classic local

2281
02:19:30,480 --> 02:19:33,540
professor does, you know as a
Democrat is a California

2282
02:19:33,540 --> 02:19:37,380
professor so he's, you know,
liberal progressive, wants to

2283
02:19:37,380 --> 02:19:41,640
dissolve the family and turn us
all into communists. Oh, we know

2284
02:19:41,640 --> 02:19:46,650
the kind Yes, we this guy. So
this is a classic to me. What we

2285
02:19:46,650 --> 02:19:50,970
were hearing in the Bay Area and
just before he was indicted,

2286
02:19:50,970 --> 02:19:53,670
before we didn't, we found out
that he didn't have a mug shot.

2287
02:19:53,670 --> 02:19:57,510
He didn't get can come none of
that. So let's go this and I did

2288
02:19:57,510 --> 02:20:00,510
cut it. So you give the
introduction induction is the

2289
02:20:00,510 --> 02:20:02,280
guy that we cut right to one of
his comments.

2290
02:20:02,370 --> 02:20:04,920
Unknown: Robert ovitz to the
nine. He's a political science

2291
02:20:04,920 --> 02:20:06,120
professor at San Jose State.

2292
02:20:06,150 --> 02:20:09,180
You know, our the history of our
country has been for over 200

2293
02:20:09,180 --> 02:20:11,970
years presidents have evaded
responsibility and

2294
02:20:11,970 --> 02:20:16,410
accountability. But here, I
think it's starting to creep up

2295
02:20:16,440 --> 02:20:20,190
and catch up with President
Trump. We know that the attorney

2296
02:20:20,190 --> 02:20:23,640
general is actively
investigating all the mountains

2297
02:20:23,640 --> 02:20:27,120
of evidence that was accumulated
in the January 6 investigation

2298
02:20:27,120 --> 02:20:31,770
last year. And let's hope that
it looks bold to some

2299
02:20:31,800 --> 02:20:34,710
accountability for President
Trump. And if that's the case,

2300
02:20:35,220 --> 02:20:38,520
he's going to be doing more than
doing the perp walk that he's

2301
02:20:38,520 --> 02:20:39,450
going to do this after

2302
02:20:40,050 --> 02:20:42,540
Adam Curry: that. So we didn't
even do the perp walk. And

2303
02:20:42,570 --> 02:20:46,710
notice this guy doesn't say he's
done. He just has mountains and

2304
02:20:46,710 --> 02:20:48,330
whoa, Earth.

2305
02:20:48,810 --> 02:20:52,230
John C Dvorak: classic, classic
local yokels. Now I did

2306
02:20:52,230 --> 02:20:55,020
beforehand. My last clip, I want
to play this intermediate clip,

2307
02:20:55,020 --> 02:20:59,340
which is actually something we
don't normally do on the show,

2308
02:20:59,340 --> 02:21:04,170
but this is Tucker Carlson
reading a tweet. Since I thought

2309
02:21:04,170 --> 02:21:06,840
it would be more entertaining.
Let's have him read it. And I

2310
02:21:06,840 --> 02:21:12,420
think that this is apt
Salvadorian prick prexy tweet.

2311
02:21:12,480 --> 02:21:15,360
Unknown: Here is Salvadoran
president now you boo Kelly on

2312
02:21:15,360 --> 02:21:19,110
Twitter today, quote. Think what
you want about former President

2313
02:21:19,110 --> 02:21:22,500
Trump and the reasons he's being
indicted. But Kelly wrote, but

2314
02:21:22,500 --> 02:21:25,950
just imagine if this happened in
any other country where a

2315
02:21:25,950 --> 02:21:29,760
government arrested the main
opposition candidate. The United

2316
02:21:29,760 --> 02:21:34,350
States is ability to use quote,
democracy as foreign policy is

2317
02:21:34,350 --> 02:21:34,860
gone.

2318
02:21:35,820 --> 02:21:38,130
Adam Curry: Well, Kelly is a big
hero man. He's a big hero

2319
02:21:38,130 --> 02:21:39,960
amongst the Bitcoiners that's
for sure.

2320
02:21:41,100 --> 02:21:44,610
John C Dvorak: And last, just as
like nobody covered this that

2321
02:21:44,610 --> 02:21:49,200
much. And I just thought this is
the funny kind of ancillary

2322
02:21:49,290 --> 02:21:54,570
commentary about the stormy
Daniels clip.

2323
02:21:55,320 --> 02:21:58,080
Unknown: Meanwhile, stormy
Daniels lost her defamation suit

2324
02:21:58,080 --> 02:22:01,590
against Trump. Daniels was
ordered to pay Trump's attorneys

2325
02:22:01,590 --> 02:22:06,540
more than $120,000 in legal
fees. That's on top of more than

2326
02:22:06,540 --> 02:22:10,230
$500,000 in court ordered
payments to Trump's attorneys

2327
02:22:10,230 --> 02:22:14,130
she's already been required to
pay. A judge dismissed her

2328
02:22:14,130 --> 02:22:17,700
defamation lawsuit in 2018. She
later lost and appeal and was

2329
02:22:17,700 --> 02:22:21,750
ordered to pay Trump's legal
fees for fighting both the civil

2330
02:22:21,750 --> 02:22:25,860
litigation is on is officially
unrelated to Trump's case in New

2331
02:22:25,860 --> 02:22:28,890
York. Some denies ever having an
affair with her.

2332
02:22:29,189 --> 02:22:32,699
Adam Curry: Man. I want him to
hear more stormy Koch clips. I'm

2333
02:22:32,699 --> 02:22:33,719
bummed I missed

2334
02:22:34,560 --> 02:22:36,510
John C Dvorak: you guys. I think
you have the only one.

2335
02:22:37,620 --> 02:22:41,970
Adam Curry: There was one, which
is a short clip. But, you know,

2336
02:22:42,210 --> 02:22:45,210
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announced
he filed his paperwork he

2337
02:22:45,210 --> 02:22:48,540
announced his presidency is run
for president as a Democrat.

2338
02:22:48,870 --> 02:22:52,890
Yep. Now, just to put this into
perspective, he is a lawyer

2339
02:22:52,890 --> 02:22:57,750
who's taken the second a lot of
corporations to court, certainly

2340
02:22:57,750 --> 02:23:02,910
Big Pharma. He is by definition,
not an anti Vaxxer. He was

2341
02:23:02,910 --> 02:23:08,400
actually an environmental
lawyer. And he fought against

2342
02:23:08,460 --> 02:23:12,990
mercury in water. That's what he
did for years and years and

2343
02:23:12,990 --> 02:23:15,540
years. And he kept seeing but
this is all his own admission.

2344
02:23:15,930 --> 02:23:19,560
It kept seeing moms showing up
at at his speeches and they

2345
02:23:19,560 --> 02:23:22,920
said, Hey, there's mercury in
some of these adjuvants in

2346
02:23:22,920 --> 02:23:26,820
vaccines, and we think they've
caused harm to our children. And

2347
02:23:26,820 --> 02:23:30,360
so then he became an advocate
for getting mercury out of

2348
02:23:30,360 --> 02:23:36,060
vaccines, of course, with his
deconstruction, his of COVID,

2349
02:23:36,060 --> 02:23:39,240
his deconstruction of the
vaccine industry industry, how

2350
02:23:39,240 --> 02:23:44,670
it works, his book on Anthony
Fauci going back to the Fauci

2351
02:23:44,700 --> 02:23:48,480
days of killing gay guys with
HIV. I'm just going to say

2352
02:23:48,480 --> 02:23:53,250
that's what the book says. So of
course, you have to completely

2353
02:23:53,310 --> 02:23:59,640
discredit Robert Kennedy, Jr.
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and let's

2354
02:23:59,640 --> 02:24:03,660
hear how the tone is set by Jake
Tapper at CNN,

2355
02:24:03,840 --> 02:24:07,890
Unknown: this just into CNN,
anti vaccine quack, Robert F.

2356
02:24:07,890 --> 02:24:11,640
Kennedy Jr. has filed paperwork
with the Federal Election

2357
02:24:11,640 --> 02:24:15,690
Commission to run for president
as a Democrat in launching his

2358
02:24:15,690 --> 02:24:18,510
presidential bid Kennedy is the
latest in a long line of family

2359
02:24:18,510 --> 02:24:23,040
members to enter politics. So
far, only Marianne Williamson

2360
02:24:23,040 --> 02:24:25,200
who likes once launched her
second launch campaign has

2361
02:24:25,200 --> 02:24:28,590
entered the Democratic primary
against Biden Kennedy is such a

2362
02:24:28,590 --> 02:24:32,790
healthcare menace in 2019. Even
his cousins wrote an op ed

2363
02:24:32,970 --> 02:24:38,070
criticizing his anti science
views on life saving vaccines.

2364
02:24:38,340 --> 02:24:40,530
Adam Curry: You don't need to
know any more than that's what

2365
02:24:40,530 --> 02:24:44,940
he's gonna get. And when you
call Robert F. Kennedy Jr. A

2366
02:24:44,940 --> 02:24:50,850
quack over Marianne Williams,
man, they're out to get you. Oh,

2367
02:24:50,850 --> 02:24:51,000
they're

2368
02:24:51,000 --> 02:24:53,730
John C Dvorak: gonna get him.
They're out to get him for sure.

2369
02:24:53,760 --> 02:24:56,070
I don't know why they're so
afraid of him. I don't think he

2370
02:24:56,070 --> 02:24:58,290
has much of a chance. But is
there going to play the Trump

2371
02:24:58,290 --> 02:25:00,780
game and go after him and make a
good call? Besides a lot of

2372
02:25:00,780 --> 02:25:03,060
stuff, he may get some
attention. Oh, you may be

2373
02:25:03,060 --> 02:25:04,800
screwing up. As usual as

2374
02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:07,590
Adam Curry: usual, as usual.
Hey, I see you have it in your

2375
02:25:07,590 --> 02:25:13,440
list. tock tick tock. Always,
always interested in what you

2376
02:25:13,440 --> 02:25:17,580
have for your tick tock crime
your tick tock collection.

2377
02:25:17,850 --> 02:25:20,490
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is my
tick tock clip of the week. This

2378
02:25:20,490 --> 02:25:25,560
is a round headed kid. It looks
like a very disturbed

2379
02:25:25,560 --> 02:25:31,830
individual. Could be an actor,
but I don't think so. He is

2380
02:25:31,830 --> 02:25:37,320
upset. terribly upset at Apple,
specifically for having

2381
02:25:37,890 --> 02:25:40,830
Adam Curry: box all this you
sent me You texted me this,

2382
02:25:41,279 --> 02:25:45,779
John C Dvorak: I think for
having the meat emojis a vegan.

2383
02:25:46,199 --> 02:25:50,219
And he and he's very upset with
Apple for having a meat emoji on

2384
02:25:50,219 --> 02:25:52,349
its set of emojis. Here we go.

2385
02:25:52,410 --> 02:25:55,650
Unknown: Yes. And those emojis
honestly should be illegal. I've

2386
02:25:55,650 --> 02:25:59,850
been emailing Apple every single
day to remove the meat emojis

2387
02:25:59,850 --> 02:26:03,090
from the iPhones and they're not
doing it. I don't know why

2388
02:26:03,090 --> 02:26:05,880
they're not doing it. I've been
emailing them every single day

2389
02:26:06,030 --> 02:26:11,010
to stop putting the meat emojis
in the phones, like it should be

2390
02:26:11,040 --> 02:26:14,100
illegal. It's offensive to me.
And it's triggering to people

2391
02:26:14,100 --> 02:26:18,240
like me who are vegan, it is so
triggering. And I don't know why

2392
02:26:18,240 --> 02:26:21,120
they don't take them off the
iPhone because there's so

2393
02:26:21,120 --> 02:26:25,110
triggering. There's a trigger
tock, tick tock.

2394
02:26:28,050 --> 02:26:30,480
Adam Curry: And people wonder
why all the ad money is going to

2395
02:26:30,480 --> 02:26:34,350
tick tock, come on.
Entertainment. I have a tick

2396
02:26:34,350 --> 02:26:37,470
tock related clip from Matt to
Eb typically, we haven't done

2397
02:26:37,470 --> 02:26:41,100
much about the the Twitter files
because it's been a lot of

2398
02:26:41,100 --> 02:26:45,990
tweets. It's been, you know, sub
stacks, which don't really lend

2399
02:26:45,990 --> 02:26:49,740
themselves very well. I mean, we
were a clip where a clip driven

2400
02:26:49,740 --> 02:26:53,520
show. And I picked up this
minute and a half of him

2401
02:26:53,520 --> 02:26:58,830
explaining, which I think is
good, how the ticker, the so

2402
02:26:58,830 --> 02:27:03,030
called tic tac bill, the
Restrict act, what it is

2403
02:27:03,060 --> 02:27:08,310
actually doing. And in, as it
pertains to the information he

2404
02:27:08,310 --> 02:27:11,820
has gleaned from the Twitter
files, and of course, there's

2405
02:27:11,820 --> 02:27:13,920
new information, new shit has
come to light,

2406
02:27:13,949 --> 02:27:15,269
Unknown: where, you know, we
found a whole bunch of

2407
02:27:15,269 --> 02:27:20,879
communications just recently
about in preparation for a

2408
02:27:20,879 --> 02:27:24,929
hubbub, they were all having at
the Aspen Institute in 2021,

2409
02:27:24,929 --> 02:27:29,399
where they were discussing ideas
like the Restrict Act, which is

2410
02:27:29,399 --> 02:27:32,729
being proposed for you know, in
response to Tiktok, there's, I

2411
02:27:32,729 --> 02:27:35,729
guess, the European Digital
Services Act, or whatever they

2412
02:27:35,729 --> 02:27:40,289
call it. That's that they're
thinking about for the EU, all

2413
02:27:40,319 --> 02:27:44,519
the ideas, and both of these
bills are sort of wish lists

2414
02:27:44,519 --> 02:27:47,099
that have been passed around in
this community for a long time,

2415
02:27:47,339 --> 02:27:51,209
the government's want absolute,
full and complete access to all

2416
02:27:51,209 --> 02:27:56,819
data that these platforms
provide. And then they want a

2417
02:27:56,819 --> 02:27:59,039
couple of other things that are
really important. They want it

2418
02:27:59,819 --> 02:28:04,199
they want to have the authority
to come in and moderate, or at

2419
02:28:04,199 --> 02:28:08,549
least be part of the process of
moderation. And they also want

2420
02:28:08,579 --> 02:28:12,659
to for people who are called
like trusted flaggers. That's

2421
02:28:12,659 --> 02:28:15,689
how it's described in the
European law. They want those

2422
02:28:15,689 --> 02:28:19,649
folks to have access to these
platforms as well. And that what

2423
02:28:19,649 --> 02:28:22,919
they mean by that, are these
sort of outside quasi

2424
02:28:22,919 --> 02:28:28,619
governmental agencies who tell
these platforms, what they can

2425
02:28:28,619 --> 02:28:33,479
and cannot print about things
like vaccine safety, right? And

2426
02:28:33,479 --> 02:28:35,279
then we found out more about
that, where they're where

2427
02:28:35,279 --> 02:28:40,199
they're openly talking about
censoring true information. So

2428
02:28:40,199 --> 02:28:42,959
yeah, we're still finding out a
lot of stuff about this. And I

2429
02:28:42,959 --> 02:28:44,939
think there is more to find,
unfortunately,

2430
02:28:45,450 --> 02:28:50,790
Adam Curry: I love the trusted
flaggers. Show title. I have it

2431
02:28:50,790 --> 02:28:54,330
written down as such. In fact,
there's one other thing that

2432
02:28:54,720 --> 02:28:58,680
that is cruel, actually, too.
But as cropped up, then if you

2433
02:28:58,680 --> 02:29:02,190
recall the first time and it was
Obama's original election or his

2434
02:29:02,190 --> 02:29:08,250
reelection, there was a lot of
assertions about illegal

2435
02:29:08,250 --> 02:29:11,700
campaign donations that
apparently were made with credit

2436
02:29:11,700 --> 02:29:16,410
cards, et cetera, from China,
amongst other places. Do you

2437
02:29:16,410 --> 02:29:17,190
recall this?

2438
02:29:17,760 --> 02:29:22,170
John C Dvorak: Yes, Obama had
set up a shop or somebody did

2439
02:29:22,170 --> 02:29:26,400
for him. So you could take a lot
of small donations, a lot of

2440
02:29:26,730 --> 02:29:30,810
Julian's of small donations over
his website, and it would appear

2441
02:29:30,810 --> 02:29:34,560
as if, like, he had this
popular, supportive Jillian's of

2442
02:29:34,560 --> 02:29:38,100
small donors, when in fact, it
was one or two aggregators that

2443
02:29:38,100 --> 02:29:41,190
would then break up these
massive donations from China and

2444
02:29:41,190 --> 02:29:46,440
the big farm and elsewhere and
feed it into the system as small

2445
02:29:46,440 --> 02:29:49,920
donations that didn't need
necessarily to be reported.

2446
02:29:50,550 --> 02:29:51,900
Correct. Yeah, I remember it.

2447
02:29:52,080 --> 02:29:55,350
Adam Curry: So I think this is
related. There's a lawsuit going

2448
02:29:55,350 --> 02:30:00,000
on right now. And Leonardo
DiCaprio is involved. eBenefits

2449
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:02,130
Would you listen to this from
ABC

2450
02:30:02,160 --> 02:30:05,550
Unknown: this morning Leonardo
DiCaprio known for his roles

2451
02:30:05,550 --> 02:30:08,550
like the hard charging
stockbroker in The Wolf of Wall

2452
02:30:08,550 --> 02:30:09,060
Street.

2453
02:30:09,360 --> 02:30:12,930
Something just came across my
desk John. It is perhaps the

2454
02:30:12,930 --> 02:30:16,260
best thing I've seen in the last
six months has testified

2455
02:30:16,260 --> 02:30:19,890
at the money laundering trial of
hip hop artists Pras Michel

2456
02:30:19,890 --> 02:30:23,220
founding member of the Fujis,
saying they met in the 90s.

2457
02:30:28,260 --> 02:30:31,140
Michelle was accused of
funneling millions into the US

2458
02:30:31,140 --> 02:30:34,860
from a Malaysian businessman
named low take Joe for political

2459
02:30:34,860 --> 02:30:37,860
contributions including for
Barack Obama's reelection

2460
02:30:37,860 --> 02:30:41,160
campaign. Prosecutors claimed it
was part of a sophisticated

2461
02:30:41,160 --> 02:30:44,730
political influencing scheme.
DiCaprio called by the

2462
02:30:44,730 --> 02:30:49,260
prosecution said he first met
low in 2010. And lo eventually

2463
02:30:49,260 --> 02:30:54,510
agreed to help finance Wolf of
Wall Street says I told you

2464
02:30:55,020 --> 02:30:59,040
70,000 DiCaprio saying I was
given the green light by my team

2465
02:30:59,040 --> 02:31:02,250
he was a legitimate business
person wanting to invest in the

2466
02:31:02,250 --> 02:31:07,230
movie. DiCaprio also testifying
low discussed political

2467
02:31:07,230 --> 02:31:10,500
contributions to Obama's
campaign, saying it was a

2468
02:31:10,500 --> 02:31:15,420
significant sum something to the
tune of 20 to $30 million. Lowe

2469
02:31:15,420 --> 02:31:18,330
is currently a fugitive,
Michelle is named as the CO

2470
02:31:18,330 --> 02:31:20,940
defendant and has pleaded not
guilty.

2471
02:31:22,080 --> 02:31:25,770
Adam Curry: And you know what I
find so amazing about this Fujis

2472
02:31:26,010 --> 02:31:31,560
connection. Do you remember why
Cliff John, also of the Fujis

2473
02:31:32,640 --> 02:31:36,690
was in Haiti and was going to
run for president after filing

2474
02:31:36,690 --> 02:31:40,200
papers he was in? I mean, what
is it with the Fujis and all

2475
02:31:40,200 --> 02:31:41,400
this corruption?

2476
02:31:41,490 --> 02:31:43,350
John C Dvorak: Well, the
corruption I'm going to bring

2477
02:31:43,350 --> 02:31:46,620
back this point I made in the
beginning of the show, which is

2478
02:31:46,680 --> 02:31:51,540
go see this two part documentary
see either the crimes of Anthony

2479
02:31:51,540 --> 02:31:56,040
Pellicano this sort of thing is,
this is in the movie.

2480
02:31:56,699 --> 02:31:59,099
Adam Curry: And there was some
other story that we didn't

2481
02:31:59,099 --> 02:32:03,479
discuss, but I had recently was
like FBI was this.

2482
02:32:05,160 --> 02:32:07,170
John C Dvorak: Well, while
you're looking I do I have the

2483
02:32:07,170 --> 02:32:11,130
clip by promise from last show
that I dug up, which was Rand

2484
02:32:11,130 --> 02:32:17,220
Paul. Grilling, Anthony Blinken.
Yeah, about the papers that they

2485
02:32:17,220 --> 02:32:19,950
want from the State Department,
they will not get this is Rand

2486
02:32:19,950 --> 02:32:21,480
Paul Blinken final clip,

2487
02:32:21,570 --> 02:32:24,180
Unknown: well, we don't want
your spin on it. We want to look

2488
02:32:24,180 --> 02:32:24,930
at the documents.

2489
02:32:25,440 --> 02:32:28,200
We're not providing spin, as I
said, I believe we can provide

2490
02:32:28,200 --> 02:32:30,390
the information you're looking
for. We have long standing

2491
02:32:30,390 --> 02:32:33,090
practices and procedures in
terms of actually providing

2492
02:32:33,090 --> 02:32:36,150
documents and cables with this
committee, that we're not

2493
02:32:36,150 --> 02:32:38,250
prepared to change. But in terms
of getting you the information

2494
02:32:38,250 --> 02:32:38,940
you're looking for.

2495
02:32:39,150 --> 02:32:42,510
And the only cables we have that
are of value we got leaked to us

2496
02:32:42,540 --> 02:32:44,580
are actually they were
declassified by the Trump

2497
02:32:44,580 --> 02:32:47,910
administration, those cables
said, and these were from some

2498
02:32:47,910 --> 02:32:50,580
state department folks, and it
was amazing. And I don't

2499
02:32:50,580 --> 02:32:52,620
actually fault anybody for
missing it. I'm sure there are

2500
02:32:52,620 --> 02:32:59,640
1000s of cables. But in 19, in
2018 or 17, they were sending

2501
02:32:59,640 --> 02:33:03,210
cables back saying holy you know
what they're over here working

2502
02:33:03,210 --> 02:33:06,720
without gloves in unsafe
conditions. In a BSL two, that

2503
02:33:06,720 --> 02:33:10,110
should be a BSL four, not a very
safe condition. And that's why

2504
02:33:10,110 --> 02:33:12,870
some of our intelligence people
have leaned towards us coming

2505
02:33:12,870 --> 02:33:16,080
from a lab. Why wouldn't you
want to help us? Why wouldn't

2506
02:33:16,080 --> 02:33:17,130
everybody want to help us?

2507
02:33:17,160 --> 02:33:20,550
I've seen those cables. You're
right. They've they've come out

2508
02:33:20,550 --> 02:33:23,340
and I think what they said at
least as I read them was that

2509
02:33:23,340 --> 02:33:26,490
there were concerns based on
State Department. Right? If

2510
02:33:26,490 --> 02:33:26,970
it'll leave as

2511
02:33:27,000 --> 02:33:29,490
we all know, those were not
someone who has gumption to

2512
02:33:29,490 --> 02:33:30,510
declassify them

2513
02:33:34,140 --> 02:33:35,400
Adam Curry: love to try and man

2514
02:33:35,880 --> 02:33:39,630
John C Dvorak: so i He's a gift
admirer Rand Paul, but there was

2515
02:33:39,630 --> 02:33:43,140
something interesting about that
clip which was I was always

2516
02:33:43,140 --> 02:33:48,030
under the impression that was a
BSL four never a BSL two nose

2517
02:33:48,030 --> 02:33:52,080
handling the virus no I was I
was under the impression based

2518
02:33:52,080 --> 02:33:55,410
on what we did for two years and
covering this this whole thing

2519
02:33:55,830 --> 02:33:59,940
was it was a it was a poorly
operated BSL four

2520
02:34:01,440 --> 02:34:03,390
Adam Curry: Yes, yes yes. Khorat

2521
02:34:03,390 --> 02:34:07,470
John C Dvorak: grade lab correct
one correct. That was just they

2522
02:34:07,470 --> 02:34:10,980
had they were just sloppy. But
according to the leaked

2523
02:34:11,220 --> 02:34:15,780
documents it was not a top rated
it was it was sanctuary rated

2524
02:34:16,500 --> 02:34:18,420
Yeah, it was just a crummy to
begin with.

2525
02:34:18,540 --> 02:34:22,740
Adam Curry: Hmm Well, that was a
lie then a big one a big lie.

2526
02:34:24,300 --> 02:34:26,520
John C Dvorak: So we were
buffaloed there that one we

2527
02:34:26,520 --> 02:34:27,090
missed

2528
02:34:27,120 --> 02:34:32,850
Adam Curry: I also swans that I
have here that apparently it was

2529
02:34:32,880 --> 02:34:36,780
a it is where's this from? What
let me see what this is from

2530
02:34:36,780 --> 02:34:40,710
this is from well Yahoo News. So
it's probably a P. Headline

2531
02:34:40,710 --> 02:34:45,330
humans may not have spread COVID
to Wuhan market as raccoon dogs

2532
02:34:45,330 --> 02:34:49,620
are not to blame for letting the
raccoon dogs off the hook.

2533
02:34:49,800 --> 02:34:51,990
John C Dvorak: Yay for the
raccoon dog.

2534
02:34:53,100 --> 02:34:55,800
Adam Curry: Alright, let's talk
about let's talk about some

2535
02:34:55,800 --> 02:34:59,550
conspiracy theories because I
only pulled about a minute and a

2536
02:34:59,550 --> 02:35:03,540
half This from NPR to four
minutes in total. I think that

2537
02:35:03,540 --> 02:35:06,900
they're trying to put some of
the bipoc people who were fired

2538
02:35:06,900 --> 02:35:10,800
from the podcast division into
their normal reporting. So you

2539
02:35:10,800 --> 02:35:14,250
know, I had to actually cut out
silences and stuff because it's

2540
02:35:14,310 --> 02:35:18,690
done almost like W IO n when
they took this big, long, quiet

2541
02:35:18,690 --> 02:35:19,980
pauses. I listen to

2542
02:35:19,980 --> 02:35:22,440
Unknown: this. In the past
month, elected officials in the

2543
02:35:22,440 --> 02:35:24,690
Netherlands and Poland have, by
the way,

2544
02:35:24,720 --> 02:35:26,430
Adam Curry: you know, I grew up
in the Netherlands. I know who

2545
02:35:26,430 --> 02:35:29,730
they're talking about. They're
talking about a guy I actually

2546
02:35:29,730 --> 02:35:33,660
know I've talked with cherry Bo
de and he's done. He's done

2547
02:35:33,660 --> 02:35:38,580
some, some pretty funny, Tik Tok
videos, ironically enough about

2548
02:35:38,580 --> 02:35:42,360
this topic, but it's not like
he's Rambo. They make it sound

2549
02:35:42,360 --> 02:35:45,810
like they're all nut jobs in
Holland, a lot of them are but

2550
02:35:45,900 --> 02:35:48,030
Unknown: in the past month,
elected officials in the

2551
02:35:48,030 --> 02:35:50,670
Netherlands and Poland have
accused their opponents of

2552
02:35:50,670 --> 02:35:54,780
plotting to force people to eat
insects. The idea is also

2553
02:35:54,780 --> 02:35:59,490
bubbling up in far right circles
in the US, and prs. Watching Nan

2554
02:35:59,490 --> 02:36:03,090
reports on how a meme from
anonymous message boards is

2555
02:36:03,090 --> 02:36:05,460
making the leap into real world
politics.

2556
02:36:05,790 --> 02:36:09,510
If you follow far right media,
the message is plain and simple.

2557
02:36:09,540 --> 02:36:10,050
The ruling

2558
02:36:10,050 --> 02:36:13,890
class really, really wants us to
eat bugs.

2559
02:36:14,160 --> 02:36:16,950
That's conservative media
personality. Mike who knows

2560
02:36:16,980 --> 02:36:17,970
speaking last year,

2561
02:36:18,090 --> 02:36:20,310
Adam Curry: by the way, I'm a
little upset NPR that you didn't

2562
02:36:20,310 --> 02:36:23,100
put us in with the bug eating
because I think we've been on

2563
02:36:23,100 --> 02:36:24,750
the forefront of this on the tip

2564
02:36:24,750 --> 02:36:25,920
Unknown: of the jingles

2565
02:36:26,130 --> 02:36:29,730
Adam Curry: we have. We have bug
eating jingles that go back

2566
02:36:29,730 --> 02:36:30,630
years.

2567
02:36:30,990 --> 02:36:33,840
Unknown: Using insects as a
source of protein is only at the

2568
02:36:33,870 --> 02:36:36,510
edges of the policy debate when
it comes to cutting climate

2569
02:36:36,510 --> 02:36:40,260
pollution from agriculture.
Scientists focus mainly on

2570
02:36:40,260 --> 02:36:43,200
reducing meat consumption and
eating more plant based food.

2571
02:36:43,470 --> 02:36:46,860
Although the idea is marginal,
various right wing media outlets

2572
02:36:46,860 --> 02:36:50,010
use insect eating as a punch
line to mock climate movement.

2573
02:36:50,040 --> 02:36:52,620
You know who won't be eating
bugs, climate change

2574
02:36:52,620 --> 02:36:53,280
technocrats?

2575
02:36:53,340 --> 02:36:57,270
I have some crickets here with
me behind me. What do you think?

2576
02:36:58,050 --> 02:37:00,330
What do you think about when you
see this and think that

2577
02:37:00,330 --> 02:37:02,010
government wants to put this in
your food

2578
02:37:02,040 --> 02:37:04,890
those clips are from prison
planet and Prager University.

2579
02:37:05,520 --> 02:37:08,790
Sir a neon off anti Defamation
League traced some of this

2580
02:37:08,790 --> 02:37:12,510
rhetoric back to 2019 in threads
on the anonymous message board

2581
02:37:12,540 --> 02:37:13,710
4chan, it

2582
02:37:13,800 --> 02:37:18,120
kind of started out and
continues to be kind of a meme.

2583
02:37:18,450 --> 02:37:21,810
So some people might be using it
earnestly and some people might

2584
02:37:21,810 --> 02:37:23,760
be using it. Ironically,

2585
02:37:23,790 --> 02:37:27,120
it started with comments below a
photo of climate activist Greta

2586
02:37:27,120 --> 02:37:27,720
Thun Berg,

2587
02:37:27,779 --> 02:37:30,989
they say over and over and over
again. I will not eat the bugs I

2588
02:37:30,989 --> 02:37:31,919
will not eat the bugs.

2589
02:37:33,120 --> 02:37:36,780
Then the phrase crossed over to
Twitter first by way of a white

2590
02:37:36,780 --> 02:37:41,190
nationalist, then a crypto
advocate used it to poke fun at

2591
02:37:41,190 --> 02:37:44,550
proposals to mitigate climate
change. Yet another early

2592
02:37:44,550 --> 02:37:48,030
propagator of the phrase told
NPR he tweeted it only as a

2593
02:37:48,030 --> 02:37:52,830
joke. Over time he has fused
into a darker conspiracy theory

2594
02:37:52,890 --> 02:37:55,050
currently known as the Great
reset.

2595
02:37:55,860 --> 02:37:57,240
Adam Curry: Okay, so it's all

2596
02:38:00,120 --> 02:38:02,910
John C Dvorak: amateurs are they
putting in charge of that place?

2597
02:38:03,300 --> 02:38:05,790
knew about any of this seven is
accurate?

2598
02:38:05,820 --> 02:38:08,250
Adam Curry: It's from 4chan.
It's from 4chan. It's a

2599
02:38:08,250 --> 02:38:11,790
conspiracy. The great reset as a
conspiracy. None of it's true.

2600
02:38:11,790 --> 02:38:16,290
It's not true. Come on. We've
had the I like bugs thing for

2601
02:38:16,290 --> 02:38:21,270
years. And now we want to watch
a real great reset is this is

2602
02:38:21,270 --> 02:38:23,550
wishes the great reset. Here's
what's really happening.

2603
02:38:23,820 --> 02:38:26,070
Everything's going to be great
reset this summer

2604
02:38:26,100 --> 02:38:30,240
Unknown: travelers this summer
could be in for a bumpy ride, I

2605
02:38:30,240 --> 02:38:32,310
think it's going to be a
troublesome summer. In a letter

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02:38:32,310 --> 02:38:36,180
to airlines the Federal Aviation
Administration, citing a severe

2607
02:38:36,180 --> 02:38:39,600
lack of air traffic controllers
could cause serious delays and

2608
02:38:39,600 --> 02:38:43,890
cancellations agency predicting
delays to skyrocket up an

2609
02:38:43,890 --> 02:38:46,800
estimated 45% in New York City
alone.

2610
02:38:46,860 --> 02:38:51,060
Our goal is to make sure that
we're proactive and where we can

2611
02:38:51,060 --> 02:38:54,480
be to be as predictive as we can
be to make sure that are in

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02:38:54,480 --> 02:38:55,260
demand matches.

2613
02:38:55,440 --> 02:38:59,880
impacted. Airports include New
York's JFK, LaGuardia Newark and

2614
02:38:59,880 --> 02:39:03,870
DC is Reagan National last year
New York area airports around

2615
02:39:03,870 --> 02:39:08,910
41,000 flight delays according
to the FAA, the agency is now

2616
02:39:08,910 --> 02:39:12,630
pleading with airlines to cut
back on service asking for up to

2617
02:39:12,630 --> 02:39:15,960
10% reduction in flights for
this summer season, the

2618
02:39:15,960 --> 02:39:20,670
likelihood of ground delays will
decrease and that will help them

2619
02:39:20,670 --> 02:39:25,470
maintain their schedules and the
airplanes that fly around the

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02:39:25,470 --> 02:39:30,120
country throughout the day. They
will be on time more often

2621
02:39:30,450 --> 02:39:34,440
to avoid traffic jams as travel
returns to pre pandemic levels

2622
02:39:34,500 --> 02:39:38,520
and the summer surge commences.
Both united and Delta Airlines

2623
02:39:38,520 --> 02:39:43,350
considering the offer so as NYC
based JetBlue. It co telling

2624
02:39:43,350 --> 02:39:47,070
CNBC. We don't want to pull down
flights, but if we don't cut

2625
02:39:47,070 --> 02:39:50,970
them, the system is not going to
be workable this summer. Experts

2626
02:39:50,970 --> 02:39:54,570
say act now. So for those folks
who have not yet booked their

2627
02:39:54,570 --> 02:39:58,980
summer travel plans, do so
immediately and be flexible with

2628
02:39:58,980 --> 02:39:59,940
your summer plans.

2629
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:03,030
So rather than setting your
heart on New York City and maybe

2630
02:40:03,030 --> 02:40:06,660
this is a sort of the universe
telling you couldn't be a good

2631
02:40:06,660 --> 02:40:07,710
summer to go visit

2632
02:40:07,740 --> 02:40:08,370
John C Dvorak: Chicago

2633
02:40:09,390 --> 02:40:10,830
Unknown: to go visit the
Rockies.

2634
02:40:12,960 --> 02:40:15,150
Travel is just on the horizon.

2635
02:40:15,779 --> 02:40:18,359
Adam Curry: Oh, there you go.
They have no pilots, people,

2636
02:40:18,359 --> 02:40:19,739
that's what's going on. Well,
there's

2637
02:40:19,740 --> 02:40:21,990
John C Dvorak: that too. And
also the sound like a native ad

2638
02:40:21,990 --> 02:40:26,040
for visiting Chicago, if these
airports are so you know, want

2639
02:40:26,070 --> 02:40:29,400
to cut back can't do that. It
should be across the board.

2640
02:40:29,400 --> 02:40:32,880
Everybody should be cut back.
10% is the they can close the

2641
02:40:32,880 --> 02:40:38,280
slots. Just just volunteering
and one airline has to take a

2642
02:40:38,280 --> 02:40:40,680
beating and their earnings and
there we had their total

2643
02:40:40,680 --> 02:40:43,050
revenue. That's bullcrap.

2644
02:40:43,050 --> 02:40:44,670
Adam Curry: Those are the ones
that are in the most trouble.

2645
02:40:44,760 --> 02:40:47,220
That's why it's trying to get
them out of trouble. We're

2646
02:40:47,220 --> 02:40:50,460
screwed with that's why you got
to get back to flying myself.

2647
02:40:51,000 --> 02:40:53,190
John C Dvorak: You know, I
remember when I was a kid, here

2648
02:40:53,190 --> 02:40:58,410
we go. flew to New York. And it
was like four years it was

2649
02:40:58,410 --> 02:41:02,160
always sorry. We have to circle
around for a half

2650
02:41:02,220 --> 02:41:05,370
Adam Curry: hour. I remember
circling. Yes. Yes.

2651
02:41:05,370 --> 02:41:07,500
John C Dvorak: circling,
circling, circling, you finally

2652
02:41:07,500 --> 02:41:11,190
land like an hour late. So
what's new?

2653
02:41:12,390 --> 02:41:16,080
Adam Curry: I want to remind NPR
that you know your own seller

2654
02:41:16,080 --> 02:41:19,230
Brady's have been teaching us
how to eat bugs. Remember Nicole

2655
02:41:19,230 --> 02:41:19,740
Kidman

2656
02:41:19,770 --> 02:41:24,210
Unknown: and Nicole Kidman and I
am going to eat for cos meal of

2657
02:41:24,210 --> 02:41:30,870
bugs I just conspiracy theory.
Eating micro livestock hornworms

2658
02:41:31,290 --> 02:41:31,710
there

2659
02:41:31,860 --> 02:41:34,050
Adam Curry: okay, and then
remember the jingle How old is

2660
02:41:34,050 --> 02:41:34,770
this jingle

2661
02:41:42,300 --> 02:41:45,690
John C Dvorak: This is another
example of NPR falling down on

2662
02:41:45,690 --> 02:41:50,550
the job. Really stick? I'm gonna
remind people don't give them

2663
02:41:50,550 --> 02:41:55,680
your money. Give us the money
you were would give them? Yes.

2664
02:41:57,000 --> 02:42:00,960
Adam Curry: Yes, I agree. And
then on the great reset taking

2665
02:42:00,990 --> 02:42:07,110
place in France, who I believe
have now broken into and taking

2666
02:42:07,110 --> 02:42:12,960
possession of the Black Rock
headquarters in in Ferris. Yeah,

2667
02:42:12,960 --> 02:42:17,310
that's pensioners. Okay, that's
that's people who are 60 What 62

2668
02:42:17,520 --> 02:42:20,880
or 61. And they're ready to
retire and they don't want to

2669
02:42:20,880 --> 02:42:24,300
wait three more years. Oh, yeah.
That's who the people are here.

2670
02:42:24,450 --> 02:42:28,110
This is an NPR clip. What do you
think this is about NPR.

2671
02:42:28,410 --> 02:42:32,100
Unknown: Residents in Paris have
voted overwhelmingly to ban

2672
02:42:32,130 --> 02:42:36,060
electric scooters in the city.
The 15,000 Scooters will be

2673
02:42:36,060 --> 02:42:39,600
removed from the streets after
their contract ends in August.

2674
02:42:39,900 --> 02:42:43,110
The scooters are popular with
tourists and people who don't

2675
02:42:43,110 --> 02:42:46,920
want to drive or ride the
subway. But they're also seen as

2676
02:42:46,950 --> 02:42:47,910
a traffic hazard.

2677
02:42:47,940 --> 02:42:51,420
Adam Curry: No, the French want
your crap gone. Get it out of

2678
02:42:51,420 --> 02:42:55,710
here. You stupid scooters, get
rid of them. The French are

2679
02:42:55,710 --> 02:42:57,660
good. Well, at

2680
02:42:57,660 --> 02:42:59,970
John C Dvorak: least they will
stand up to things I mean,

2681
02:42:59,970 --> 02:43:03,720
that's a good dose things should
be gone. Yeah, nice. Those

2682
02:43:03,720 --> 02:43:07,080
things flying around Paris is
bad enough to drive around

2683
02:43:07,080 --> 02:43:11,130
there. I'm gonna show my school
by donating to no agenda.

2684
02:43:11,190 --> 02:43:13,620
Unknown: Imagine all the people
who could do that. Oh yeah,

2685
02:43:13,620 --> 02:43:14,310
that'd be fun

2686
02:43:22,560 --> 02:43:24,930
John C Dvorak: and we do have a
few people to thank for show

2687
02:43:25,170 --> 02:43:34,380
1544 And if I have starting off
with Bruce Schwalm, the Schwalm

2688
02:43:34,380 --> 02:43:36,420
family in Harrisburg,
Pennsylvania comes up with

2689
02:43:36,420 --> 02:43:44,400
$133.88 Zavier Vasquez in San
Diego 12345. New Hampshire

2690
02:43:44,400 --> 02:43:48,210
meetup comes in with 115. And
they sent us a couple of big

2691
02:43:48,210 --> 02:43:49,620
photos. You get these things.

2692
02:43:49,950 --> 02:43:52,590
Adam Curry: The beautiful photos
of you and myself. They look

2693
02:43:53,130 --> 02:43:53,430
great.

2694
02:43:53,699 --> 02:43:56,099
John C Dvorak: There's a
question for each one. Oh,

2695
02:43:56,159 --> 02:44:01,349
what's the least I have? I have
one question, John. How come the

2696
02:44:01,349 --> 02:44:06,269
Democrats always is Why is
Minnesota or Minneapolis a

2697
02:44:06,269 --> 02:44:09,419
Democratic stronghold? Why is it
strong the same way? The reason

2698
02:44:09,419 --> 02:44:13,109
is in California because they
found a way to rig the elections

2699
02:44:13,709 --> 02:44:18,119
and dress Ivalo says next on the
list he's in Denison, Texas.

2700
02:44:18,179 --> 02:44:24,119
$100 John Robin $100 Kevin
McAtee in Centennial, Colorado

2701
02:44:24,119 --> 02:44:32,249
$100 Jeffrey Dykstra and Sparta
Ontario, Canada $100 Got back

2702
02:44:32,249 --> 02:44:36,359
from the taxman in Canada, Brian
Chambliss in Attica, Indiana

2703
02:44:36,359 --> 02:44:41,219
$100. John Siebert in Auburn,
California, Canada bucks

2704
02:44:41,220 --> 02:44:43,050
Adam Curry: and I just say one
thing about this particular

2705
02:44:43,050 --> 02:44:49,740
donation, this is a numeral
numeral logical donation. 33,371

2706
02:44:49,740 --> 02:44:53,070
Satoshis. So that's a 333 and 71
for your birthday.

2707
02:44:53,670 --> 02:44:56,550
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's
skewed. How it came up to

2708
02:44:56,550 --> 02:45:00,900
exactly 100 is amazing. I carry
Jackson Watertown. Tennessee 100

2709
02:45:01,080 --> 02:45:05,190
Baron anonymous cop in San
Carlos, California, our buddy

2710
02:45:05,460 --> 02:45:12,090
9933 He's the one who had
etsy.com bootleg coins see a

2711
02:45:13,530 --> 02:45:17,040
bootleg coin ca Okay, that's
where he's got all his patches

2712
02:45:17,040 --> 02:45:19,980
and stuff. I think for sale, too
loud pipes in Charlotte, North

2713
02:45:19,980 --> 02:45:34,230
Carolina at 47 T Lance says SNI
in Bastrop Texas 808 And he says

2714
02:45:34,230 --> 02:45:35,460
there's a show error.

2715
02:45:37,050 --> 02:45:39,090
Adam Curry: Look at SB five six
A Yeah, yeah, I've been going

2716
02:45:39,090 --> 02:45:39,990
back and forth with him.

2717
02:45:40,349 --> 02:45:45,239
John C Dvorak: Okay anonymous in
Mount Airy, Maryland 808. And

2718
02:45:45,719 --> 02:45:50,549
there he is. Kevin McLaughlin,
Sir Kevin and Lucas North

2719
02:45:50,549 --> 02:45:55,799
Carolina. 808. Matthew Snyder in
San Francisco also 808 And to

2720
02:45:55,799 --> 02:46:00,749
round it off with even one more.
Daniel Nevada in Parts Unknown.

2721
02:46:01,019 --> 02:46:08,729
808 Bradford Rams in which tall
falls Wichita Falls, Texas 75.

2722
02:46:10,319 --> 02:46:16,169
Why when when Kartini in
Torrington, Connecticut 7421

2723
02:46:16,439 --> 02:46:21,539
Sure Rain Man in Canyon Texas 72
Christian with a happy birthday.

2724
02:46:21,959 --> 02:46:28,799
Christian Sutton Jensen in my
Marinette Marinette Marinette,

2725
02:46:28,829 --> 02:46:34,019
Marinette, Wisconsin 7199 with
another happy birthday and he's

2726
02:46:34,019 --> 02:46:37,259
always been following us y'all
gonna be happy birthdays. At

2727
02:46:37,259 --> 02:46:42,389
least for some time here. Dane
Becky Katy, Texas 7171 Adam

2728
02:46:42,389 --> 02:46:49,259
Provencher in Toronto, Ontario
7169 Harvey Smith, North

2729
02:46:49,289 --> 02:46:55,259
Weymouth, Massachusetts 7166 And
now the following people all

2730
02:46:55,259 --> 02:47:00,749
donated $71 Even which was the
the birthday donation to

2731
02:47:00,749 --> 02:47:03,959
celebrate my 71 years doing the
podcast

2732
02:47:05,190 --> 02:47:05,940
Adam Curry: feels like it

2733
02:47:07,530 --> 02:47:11,580
John C Dvorak: started with John
Kumar in London, UK que Christi

2734
02:47:11,580 --> 02:47:17,940
de gaz de gaz in Vista Avia
hills, Alabama, Scott Riley in

2735
02:47:17,940 --> 02:47:23,100
Meridian, Idaho, Megan Lauro in
Huntington Beach, California.

2736
02:47:23,550 --> 02:47:29,580
Varun Rob and light in Holland,
Jordan Olson in Bellevue,

2737
02:47:29,580 --> 02:47:37,110
Nebraska, Darrell Hansen in New
Zealand. Michael Graham and

2738
02:47:37,110 --> 02:47:44,340
Gilbert Arizona console. Francis
Lambert Inc. Oh, I don't know

2739
02:47:44,340 --> 02:47:49,290
what that is. Maybe it's a law
firm in Montreal, Quebec. Kurt

2740
02:47:49,980 --> 02:47:55,860
Kirk, I'm sorry, Barnett in
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Walter

2741
02:47:55,860 --> 02:48:01,560
Hill back in Essen Deutschland
Casey gray in Grand Prairie

2742
02:48:01,560 --> 02:48:07,440
Texas, Rick Jansen and Round
Rock Texas. Health karma for

2743
02:48:07,440 --> 02:48:12,300
everyone around Christopher
O'Rourke in Oak Lawn Illinois.

2744
02:48:12,720 --> 02:48:18,810
Where's Chela Barton in Monday,
Texas University douching where

2745
02:48:18,810 --> 02:48:21,000
she needs it. Oops, sorry.

2746
02:48:21,120 --> 02:48:22,440
Adam Curry: That's the wrong
that to.

2747
02:48:26,250 --> 02:48:27,390
Unknown: You've been de

2748
02:48:27,390 --> 02:48:28,110
deuced

2749
02:48:29,070 --> 02:48:36,450
John C Dvorak: James Agee in
Umatilla. Florida. Colin Pettit

2750
02:48:36,480 --> 02:48:42,150
in Fairfield, Iowa. Laura Rankin
in Austin, Texas. Max Boyd in

2751
02:48:42,150 --> 02:48:45,900
Edmond, Oklahoma. Joseph Hawkins
in Jonesborough. Illinois.

2752
02:48:46,290 --> 02:48:51,330
Christopher Baker in Dallas.
David, how many how many how

2753
02:48:51,330 --> 02:49:00,180
many in Broken Arrow Oklahoma.
El speck in Harlan Holland. And

2754
02:49:00,180 --> 02:49:03,420
he said wait a minute. What is
this he had a Polish birthday

2755
02:49:03,420 --> 02:49:07,680
have Bob birthday with a bolo
Screaming Eagle? Yeah, I don't

2756
02:49:07,680 --> 02:49:13,620
think so. I wish Sarah Stein
steenland in Brentwood,

2757
02:49:13,620 --> 02:49:17,160
Tennessee. Sir William and
Bainbridge Island Washington.

2758
02:49:17,460 --> 02:49:22,800
Michael Burke in Kalamazoo,
Michigan. Sir. What do you think

2759
02:49:22,800 --> 02:49:29,700
that says? I'm gonna stay 30 4am
Monk, whatever. Huntington Beach

2760
02:49:29,700 --> 02:49:33,570
Christopher grain Covington
Louisiana sir. Roti Jo.

2761
02:49:34,710 --> 02:49:38,550
Adam Curry: Dream monk. Steam
monk, st three st

2762
02:49:38,550 --> 02:49:42,120
John C Dvorak: and Medina. Okay,
that's what it is. Good. I would

2763
02:49:42,360 --> 02:49:47,370
have IT resident hacks our
expert, sir roadie Joe in

2764
02:49:47,370 --> 02:49:54,090
Odenton Maryland Surbhi boop. In
New Brighton, Minnesota. Sir

2765
02:49:54,090 --> 02:49:58,140
daddy cast in Mechanicsville,
Virginia. He's buried at the

2766
02:49:58,140 --> 02:50:01,680
center of the universe. William
key Bidwell in Dover Delaware.

2767
02:50:02,580 --> 02:50:06,750
Craig Porter in Carlsbad,
Brandon Logan in Athens,

2768
02:50:06,750 --> 02:50:13,380
Georgia, Jana Joerg Gergana
Gergana young Cova in in the UK,

2769
02:50:13,980 --> 02:50:21,630
Mark Stokes burry in Centennial,
Colorado. Chris Kenny in Allen,

2770
02:50:21,630 --> 02:50:25,560
Texas, another kidney donation
from the family. It was all his

2771
02:50:25,560 --> 02:50:30,570
birthdays lined up. David Fergus
zotoh and Gladstone, Missouri,

2772
02:50:31,620 --> 02:50:39,210
John munching in Bastrop, Texas.
Jill presnel in Wichita, Kansas

2773
02:50:39,210 --> 02:50:43,860
Blair Williams in Austin, Texas
Derek Chanel in Watkins,

2774
02:50:43,860 --> 02:50:48,630
Minnesota. Scott Walker in
Flushing, New York. Joe Kellogg

2775
02:50:48,630 --> 02:50:51,870
in Bethany Illinois, James
Fitzgerald in Palmer Lake

2776
02:50:51,870 --> 02:50:56,310
Colorado, Timothy Bhojpur.
shears in Cookeville, Tennessee.

2777
02:50:57,450 --> 02:51:02,280
A yawn Leclerc in Lawrence
viler. Luxembourg, thank you

2778
02:51:02,280 --> 02:51:06,720
very much from Luxembourg. I
would birthdays for him, or

2779
02:51:06,780 --> 02:51:11,220
Yeah, him. Lester Tarr kowski.
in Kingman, Arizona. Daniel

2780
02:51:11,220 --> 02:51:15,960
Martin in Harrisonburg,
Virginia. Brous quarry in Rego

2781
02:51:15,960 --> 02:51:21,510
Park, New York, Mike McCoy in
Schaumburg, Illinois. Gabriel

2782
02:51:21,510 --> 02:51:26,610
Adams in Blackfoot, Idaho.
Birthdays there to Michael

2783
02:51:26,640 --> 02:51:34,320
riobel. In Eddystone,
Pennsylvania, Jody McGonigal in

2784
02:51:34,320 --> 02:51:39,690
bid for it in Maine. William jar
is in Mount Juliet, Tennessee

2785
02:51:40,110 --> 02:51:41,490
who needs a D douching.

2786
02:51:43,470 --> 02:51:45,300
Unknown: You've been de deuced

2787
02:51:45,990 --> 02:51:49,800
John C Dvorak: John L Marini in
Forestville California. Nice

2788
02:51:49,800 --> 02:51:54,420
area. John Doyle in Mount
Pleasant, Wisconsin. Shreeve nas

2789
02:51:54,420 --> 02:52:01,440
murdy are Brahman in Culpeper,
Virginia. Kevin McLaughlin is

2790
02:52:01,440 --> 02:52:07,500
back with 71 Thank you, Kevin.
That's, that's nice. John lander

2791
02:52:07,500 --> 02:52:13,980
and and Clancy Montana, Richard
Robinson in Spring, Texas, and

2792
02:52:13,980 --> 02:52:18,510
he I don't know what he has.
James Green in El flan, North

2793
02:52:18,510 --> 02:52:24,720
Carolina. F land, E F, la nd
Rita Harrington and sparks

2794
02:52:24,750 --> 02:52:29,790
Nevada, Christopher Hayden in
Lincoln, Nebraska, Dan stone in

2795
02:52:29,790 --> 02:52:36,180
San Francisco. Sarah Gardner in
Wilmington, North Carolina, Jodi

2796
02:52:36,210 --> 02:52:41,010
cudicini in Austin, Texas.
Baroness Monica in Drayton

2797
02:52:41,010 --> 02:52:45,930
Valley, Alberta, where the money
used to be. Jay Schweikert in

2798
02:52:45,930 --> 02:52:50,550
Wichita, Kansas deem me out
Edison in ultimate Springs,

2799
02:52:50,550 --> 02:52:57,420
Florida. Sir Austin in
Sammamish, Washington, Daniel

2800
02:52:57,420 --> 02:53:02,640
parks in Lakeville, Minnesota
nuts. And Daniel plain old

2801
02:53:02,640 --> 02:53:06,090
Daniel from Parts Unknown. All
these are bitcoins and so as

2802
02:53:06,090 --> 02:53:12,600
Chad F, and Ben blessing extends
it or actually is ends with Chad

2803
02:53:12,630 --> 02:53:15,690
F. That's all our well wishes. I
want to thank each and every one

2804
02:53:15,690 --> 02:53:18,360
of them for saying happy
birthday to me. It's very

2805
02:53:18,360 --> 02:53:22,290
appreciated. It's great. And
then we start with the rest of

2806
02:53:22,290 --> 02:53:28,770
these with Ben blessing. And
Lubbock. 6230 Brian Furley 5110

2807
02:53:28,800 --> 02:53:36,960
Tom dari 5510 I'm sorry, Farley
was 5510 to Troy funderburk 55

2808
02:53:37,530 --> 02:53:42,120
and then 50 to 80 from Michael
gates chef's catch in beauty

2809
02:53:42,120 --> 02:53:48,450
point, US Australian Tasmania to
do 150 Bob Butler and coming

2810
02:53:48,450 --> 02:53:53,580
Georgia 5069 And the following
people as we wrap it up our $50

2811
02:53:53,580 --> 02:53:58,500
donors name and locations and a
Drake the top of the list in

2812
02:53:58,500 --> 02:54:04,710
white town Indiana, James Shara
met at Napa NOC Kurt Patrick

2813
02:54:04,710 --> 02:54:11,460
nine amo nine amo Victoria
Island BC, Jacob Martinez and El

2814
02:54:11,460 --> 02:54:15,840
montay California. Charles
Peterson in Albuquerque, New

2815
02:54:15,840 --> 02:54:18,330
Mexico along with his wife
Tracy,

2816
02:54:18,450 --> 02:54:20,700
Adam Curry: and he wants to get
the credit and douching

2817
02:54:22,380 --> 02:54:24,240
Unknown: you've been de deuced

2818
02:54:24,869 --> 02:54:26,669
John C Dvorak: Why would she
want to credit when she has her

2819
02:54:26,669 --> 02:54:28,589
own donation right under his
Well, if

2820
02:54:28,590 --> 02:54:31,740
Adam Curry: you read the note,
he says he donated 50 for both

2821
02:54:31,740 --> 02:54:34,890
but he wanted her to get
everything. So yeah,

2822
02:54:35,250 --> 02:54:37,680
John C Dvorak: that's $100
donation from Tracy Peters and

2823
02:54:37,680 --> 02:54:42,270
then there you go Danielle first
in Kona Wisconsin Villareal

2824
02:54:42,270 --> 02:54:49,050
Villareal Alex's avala in Kyle,
Texas, Michael Lemare, or Lebar,

2825
02:54:49,050 --> 02:54:55,800
in Williamston, Michigan, Philip
Kusa, Minh offski in Austin,

2826
02:54:57,330 --> 02:55:01,410
Jonathan Farris and liberal
candidate Kansas So Ryan Tiernan

2827
02:55:01,410 --> 02:55:05,280
in North Providence, Rhode
Island, Matthew Smith in

2828
02:55:05,280 --> 02:55:11,100
Colchester, UK, Paul Terra Nova
in Webster, Massachusetts, Jason

2829
02:55:11,100 --> 02:55:15,600
deluzy Oh sir Jason in Miami
Beach Brian watch sin Sir Brian

2830
02:55:15,600 --> 02:55:20,610
in Raleigh, North Carolina and
last on the list. Anonymous in

2831
02:55:20,610 --> 02:55:21,270
Minnesota

2832
02:55:24,300 --> 02:55:27,540
Adam Curry: How about that
people love to go your people

2833
02:55:27,540 --> 02:55:31,380
love you people love chick
magnet. Of course thanks

2834
02:55:31,380 --> 02:55:34,410
everyone else who came in under
$50 For reasons of anonymity or

2835
02:55:34,410 --> 02:55:37,350
you are on one of those
sustaining donations which are

2836
02:55:37,350 --> 02:55:40,830
very important to us. To quick
make goods. We finally got the

2837
02:55:40,830 --> 02:55:44,280
note from Baron West who donated
on the previous show something

2838
02:55:44,280 --> 02:55:47,910
went wrong with the email it was
$333 and he says, Your analysis

2839
02:55:47,910 --> 02:55:50,640
and last episode about COVID
school situation the screen

2840
02:55:50,670 --> 02:55:53,760
autism trend shooter medicated
children and the replacement of

2841
02:55:53,760 --> 02:55:56,520
Black Lives Matter was
fantastic. That is why I keep

2842
02:55:56,520 --> 02:55:58,830
listening. I've already sent it
to some friends and thank you to

2843
02:55:58,830 --> 02:56:02,520
Dr. Scott's chapters. Dred Scott
executive producer today and

2844
02:56:02,520 --> 02:56:06,270
Archduke it really makes sharing
easy thank you also for the hard

2845
02:56:06,270 --> 02:56:09,090
work you both put into the show
it's of great value to me Baron

2846
02:56:09,090 --> 02:56:11,790
west of the balderdash beer
bourbon and balderdash podcast,

2847
02:56:12,120 --> 02:56:19,140
and the producer who donated
$1,000 became executive producer

2848
02:56:19,140 --> 02:56:23,490
for episode 1539. He has
requested that his knighthood go

2849
02:56:23,490 --> 02:56:27,540
to Taunton Neil as no agenda
artists Taunton Neil and she

2850
02:56:27,540 --> 02:56:30,210
become an official no agenda
Dame and we will make that

2851
02:56:30,210 --> 02:56:34,350
happened today Agnes Nice, very
nice. And we thank everybody for

2852
02:56:34,350 --> 02:56:38,070
supporting the show for making
John field the chick magnet that

2853
02:56:38,070 --> 02:56:42,630
he is and for keeping no agenda
on the rails we appreciate it to

2854
02:56:42,630 --> 02:56:48,690
become a producer go here for a
little bit of karma since it was

2855
02:56:48,690 --> 02:56:49,380
requested here and

2856
02:56:49,380 --> 02:56:50,550
Unknown: there you've got

2857
02:57:01,320 --> 02:57:03,600
Adam Curry: we do have some of
those birthdays quite a list

2858
02:57:03,600 --> 02:57:07,080
actually. We've got Sir Thomas
McKean, celebrate on the second

2859
02:57:07,350 --> 02:57:11,130
spend Gronholm turn 41 yesterday
and says Happy Birthday to her

2860
02:57:11,130 --> 02:57:17,130
daughter. Isla, who turns 16
niece, Leona turning five and

2861
02:57:17,130 --> 02:57:20,760
best friend's daughter l turning
three all yesterday. Barbie

2862
02:57:20,760 --> 02:57:23,880
Schmidt celebrated yesterday
that Gabriel Adams wishes a

2863
02:57:23,880 --> 02:57:27,300
happy birthday to his chickens.
Eight one apparently named Adam

2864
02:57:27,300 --> 02:57:30,480
C one named John C Dame Becky
and Sir Mike say happy birthday

2865
02:57:30,480 --> 02:57:35,040
to Chris Keaney. Turning 47
Today Dame Courtney scar to be

2866
02:57:35,040 --> 02:57:38,400
in Gitmo FEMA Region number five
was Chicago Kate Happy Birthday.

2867
02:57:38,460 --> 02:57:41,760
She's not a serial killer, but
it's her birthday today. Jana

2868
02:57:41,760 --> 02:57:44,910
cleric celebrating its 10th Rob
Happy birthday was smokin hot

2869
02:57:44,910 --> 02:57:49,260
wife Jade. She turns 30 and
certified father's turning 75

2870
02:57:49,260 --> 02:57:52,050
Happy birthday from everybody
here at the best podcast in the

2871
02:57:52,050 --> 02:57:55,560
universe. And we have

2872
02:58:03,090 --> 02:58:04,440
Unknown: don't want to be
induced.

2873
02:58:04,680 --> 02:58:07,350
Adam Curry: No, no, no, he's no
douchebag he did a lot for the

2874
02:58:07,350 --> 02:58:10,590
show. We're talking about Dred
Scott. He already was at Duke.

2875
02:58:10,830 --> 02:58:13,740
He does the chapters for every
single episode. He's a huge

2876
02:58:13,740 --> 02:58:17,550
proponent of podcast and 2.0
appreciate everything you do. We

2877
02:58:17,550 --> 02:58:21,870
know him as the Bruce Wayne of
podcaster 2.0. Today, Archduke

2878
02:58:21,870 --> 02:58:25,860
Dred Scott is now or Duke Dred
Scott becomes the Archduke Dred

2879
02:58:25,860 --> 02:58:29,400
Scott of The Southern California
mega region. And we thank you

2880
02:58:29,400 --> 02:58:32,730
for all that you do good serve.
And we have one Damon one night

2881
02:58:32,730 --> 02:58:36,210
to do today. It was nice to have
that. Oh, there was a birthday

2882
02:58:36,210 --> 02:58:41,820
blade on the podium. Ladies
first Taunton Neil, you're up.

2883
02:58:42,480 --> 02:58:46,500
And Larry, welcome both of you
to the round table and I'm very

2884
02:58:46,500 --> 02:58:50,160
proud to pronounce the k d as
Dame Thompson Neil unless you

2885
02:58:50,160 --> 02:58:54,450
want some melt. And Sir up. Now
night and Dame have the no

2886
02:58:54,450 --> 02:58:57,780
agenda round table for you.
We've got the regular fare, no

2887
02:58:57,780 --> 02:59:00,690
special request. But of course
you want hookers and blow rent

2888
02:59:00,690 --> 02:59:03,600
boys and Chardonnay cookies and
vodka. We got to keep those

2889
02:59:03,660 --> 02:59:07,620
tequila fish pie and fellatio.
We've got redheads and Rhys

2890
02:59:07,620 --> 02:59:10,770
beers, a blonde stupidness we're
gonna roast a geisha Saki vaca

2891
02:59:10,770 --> 02:59:13,620
Manila bong hits and bourbon,
sparkling cider and escorts

2892
02:59:13,620 --> 02:59:17,820
ginger ale and Jerboas breast
milk and pablum baby just wants

2893
02:59:18,210 --> 02:59:21,990
mutton and Mead. It's a favorite
everybody loves it here go to no

2894
02:59:21,990 --> 02:59:25,440
agenda rings.com that anybody
can go there take a look at

2895
02:59:25,440 --> 02:59:27,300
those handsome rings that you
get as a night or day of the

2896
02:59:27,300 --> 02:59:31,560
roundtable and of course if both
are newly minted Dame and Sir if

2897
02:59:31,560 --> 02:59:34,110
they would give us our their
ring size and address we'll get

2898
02:59:34,110 --> 02:59:36,390
those off to you as soon as
possible. Thank you for

2899
02:59:36,390 --> 02:59:40,800
supporting the no agenda show
best podcast in the universe.

2900
02:59:45,930 --> 02:59:49,650
We got one meetup from the
Mississippi meet up report

2901
02:59:49,650 --> 02:59:50,130
actually,

2902
02:59:50,610 --> 02:59:53,730
Unknown: in the morning John and
Adam. This is our Mississippi

2903
02:59:53,760 --> 02:59:57,840
premiere reason for me to this
is Tony and Kendra. This is our

2904
02:59:57,840 --> 03:00:00,480
third meet up and I just want
you guys to know Oh, that I'm

2905
03:00:00,480 --> 03:00:03,720
working on an AI application.
And this is what it's gonna do.

2906
03:00:03,960 --> 03:00:07,290
It's gonna find the perfect
weedeater for John. And then I'm

2907
03:00:07,290 --> 03:00:10,440
gonna send it to him so you can
verify if it's working or not.

2908
03:00:10,920 --> 03:00:13,800
This is Sir foreman. Another
good meetup in the books thank

2909
03:00:13,800 --> 03:00:14,700
you for your courage

2910
03:00:15,000 --> 03:00:19,050
in the morning. This is to
firsthand meet up. Love you guys

2911
03:00:19,050 --> 03:00:19,710
today. I'm

2912
03:00:19,710 --> 03:00:24,900
John C Dvorak: being deep in the
morning, this is Bella I'm here

2913
03:00:24,900 --> 03:00:28,560
because Darryl needed a
designated driver. Hey guys

2914
03:00:28,560 --> 03:00:31,470
can't wait to see you in
Nashville. Adam. This is Darrell

2915
03:00:31,470 --> 03:00:36,540
Deville future night and obey
ants. And they say oh hell is

2916
03:00:36,540 --> 03:00:38,940
gonna break loose and you're
gonna need a Bitcoin.

2917
03:00:39,449 --> 03:00:42,809
Adam Curry: I know if we deduce
that meetup participant.

2918
03:00:44,280 --> 03:00:46,380
Unknown: You've been de douche
tweeted

2919
03:00:47,940 --> 03:00:51,390
Adam Curry: so far ago earlier
in the show. Saturday, there is

2920
03:00:51,390 --> 03:00:54,240
a meetup in Portland, Oregon.
Dick's primal Burgard is

2921
03:00:54,240 --> 03:00:57,570
Portland second Saturday slave
soiree six o'clock make sure you

2922
03:00:57,570 --> 03:01:02,160
catch that coming up. I mean, if
we're April we have Bellevue New

2923
03:01:02,160 --> 03:01:05,670
Paltz, New York, Houston, Texas
Mobile, Alabama Kernersville

2924
03:01:05,670 --> 03:01:08,460
North Carolina Toms River New
Jersey mines Germany's

2925
03:01:08,460 --> 03:01:11,520
Cincinnati, Ohio Star Idaho
Riverside, California Crown

2926
03:01:11,520 --> 03:01:14,760
Point Indiana, Zurich,
Switzerland, Westfield, Indiana

2927
03:01:14,760 --> 03:01:17,310
Madison, Tennessee Fort Wayne,
Indiana. Charlotte North

2928
03:01:17,310 --> 03:01:20,430
Carolina Roanoke Virginia man
Nantucket, Massachusetts

2929
03:01:20,430 --> 03:01:23,310
Nantucket. Nice one how many
people are there Cacioppo, North

2930
03:01:23,310 --> 03:01:25,920
Brabant, the Netherlands
Budapest in Hungary? Where were

2931
03:01:25,920 --> 03:01:29,370
you nationwide and worldwide and
badass? Yes, we are San Antonio,

2932
03:01:29,370 --> 03:01:33,300
Texas, Camp Hill, Pennsylvania,
Iowa City, Iowa Salt Lake City,

2933
03:01:33,300 --> 03:01:37,140
Utah, Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
Navia. Camarillo, Canada,

2934
03:01:38,100 --> 03:01:42,720
California. hookset North
hookset North Hampshire, New

2935
03:01:42,720 --> 03:01:45,270
Hampshire, Garner North
Carolina, Charlotte, North

2936
03:01:45,270 --> 03:01:48,570
Carolina Longview, Texas,
Toronto, Canada. I mean, there's

2937
03:01:48,570 --> 03:01:54,570
so much to so many meetups to go
to you have no excuse but above

2938
03:01:54,570 --> 03:01:58,080
all, you will like this
community you will meet people

2939
03:01:58,080 --> 03:02:00,720
there that will become friends
you might even meet a future

2940
03:02:00,720 --> 03:02:03,600
knight or Dame for yourself no
agenda meetups go to no agenda

2941
03:02:03,600 --> 03:02:06,570
meet ups.com Regardless of where
it is,

2942
03:02:06,780 --> 03:02:12,600
Unknown: sometimes you want to
go hang out with Dyson days.

2943
03:02:13,740 --> 03:02:14,220
You'd

2944
03:02:15,600 --> 03:02:16,770
be triggered

2945
03:02:18,930 --> 03:02:22,950
you to be where everybody feels
the same regardless

2946
03:02:22,950 --> 03:02:26,370
Adam Curry: of where it is. It's
always like a party's like what

2947
03:02:26,370 --> 03:02:31,260
I wanted to say crashed into it.
Cool. Let me see. Oh, yeah,

2948
03:02:31,260 --> 03:02:37,710
well, we're overtime. Overtime.
Overtime. Reclaiming my time.

2949
03:02:39,390 --> 03:02:41,490
John C Dvorak: What can we get
some ISOs to do?

2950
03:02:41,580 --> 03:02:43,560
Adam Curry: Yeah, hold on a
second to get rid of all this.

2951
03:02:43,560 --> 03:02:51,840
Let me see where I am. Okay.
Where are your ISOs? I see them

2952
03:02:51,840 --> 03:02:52,140
here.

2953
03:02:52,170 --> 03:02:55,440
John C Dvorak: What you got to
start with threat.

2954
03:02:55,800 --> 03:02:56,550
Adam Curry: threat,

2955
03:02:56,640 --> 03:02:58,860
Unknown: catastrophic threat to
humanity.

2956
03:03:00,450 --> 03:03:05,010
Adam Curry: Okay, I'm liking
that once. Okay. triggering. So

2957
03:03:05,010 --> 03:03:09,060
trigger ageia That's from your
meat emoji kid. Yeah, pretty

2958
03:03:09,060 --> 03:03:10,650
good. Pretty good. And he's a
good ones jump.

2959
03:03:11,220 --> 03:03:14,370
John C Dvorak: And then your
favorite smart point.

2960
03:03:14,490 --> 03:03:17,550
Adam Curry: It's such a smart
point. And no, it's not my

2961
03:03:17,550 --> 03:03:23,640
favorite at all. So far. I like
what I like the most is

2962
03:03:24,060 --> 03:03:26,670
Unknown: bush that threatened me
feel that again. Catastrophic

2963
03:03:26,670 --> 03:03:27,960
threat to humanity.

2964
03:03:28,020 --> 03:03:32,070
Adam Curry: I like that one. But
you see what I have. I have

2965
03:03:33,870 --> 03:03:36,210
Unknown: some very serious
concerns about this.

2966
03:03:37,500 --> 03:03:42,180
Little long went along. I've got
rabble rousers

2967
03:03:43,110 --> 03:03:46,110
Adam Curry: got some rabble
rouser. I got this one evil

2968
03:03:46,110 --> 03:03:51,180
people. And maybe this maybe
this will be the winner. Quack

2969
03:03:51,180 --> 03:03:55,770
quack quack. I thought that was
reasonably reasonably good. Jake

2970
03:03:55,770 --> 03:03:56,640
Tapper. Quack.

2971
03:03:57,420 --> 03:04:01,830
John C Dvorak: is cute. By
disparaging I thought I'd rather

2972
03:04:01,830 --> 03:04:04,020
had the threat to humanity,
threat to humanity.

2973
03:04:04,020 --> 03:04:06,030
Adam Curry: I'm okay with threat
to humanity. And I think we have

2974
03:04:06,030 --> 03:04:10,140
one more clip. Do you want to go
because we that's where we're

2975
03:04:10,140 --> 03:04:10,200
at.

2976
03:04:10,260 --> 03:04:12,690
John C Dvorak: I think we can
conclude these clips can go to

2977
03:04:12,690 --> 03:04:13,500
the next show.

2978
03:04:13,529 --> 03:04:15,839
Adam Curry: I think you're
right. You're absolutely right.

2979
03:04:16,109 --> 03:04:19,709
Here's what's coming up next. On
no agenda. stream.com If you're

2980
03:04:19,709 --> 03:04:24,359
still in one of those swanky new
podcast apps, we've got angry

2981
03:04:24,359 --> 03:04:31,229
tech news with Sir Ryan bemrose.
Broken values the title of this

2982
03:04:31,229 --> 03:04:36,569
one no idea with us about and
end of show mixes we have just a

2983
03:04:36,569 --> 03:04:43,259
couple here. I bring them up.
We've got what do we have? We

2984
03:04:43,259 --> 03:04:48,209
got Maddie J. And we have our
one

2985
03:04:48,210 --> 03:04:48,990
Unknown: on habit here.

2986
03:04:51,480 --> 03:04:55,350
Adam Curry: The other one was
Secret Agent Paul. Classic

2987
03:04:55,350 --> 03:04:59,490
Secret Agent Paul. Yes, it's a
good one. And the guy is the guy

2988
03:04:59,490 --> 03:05:04,560
is just dying. Am I the guy? And
coming you from the heart of the

2989
03:05:04,560 --> 03:05:08,670
Texas hill country here in FEMA
Region number six, happy

2990
03:05:08,670 --> 03:05:11,550
birthday, John and in the
morning, I'm Adam curry.

2991
03:05:12,750 --> 03:05:15,630
John C Dvorak: Yes. And from
Northern Silicon Valley where I

2992
03:05:15,630 --> 03:05:18,330
appreciate the birthday
greetings, and I'm still

2993
03:05:18,330 --> 03:05:21,240
wondering about my zip code
being important. I'm John C.

2994
03:05:21,240 --> 03:05:21,810
Dvorak. We

2995
03:05:21,810 --> 03:05:24,420
Adam Curry: return on Sunday
right here on no agenda. Please

2996
03:05:24,420 --> 03:05:28,410
remember us at the
vortech.org/na Until then, enjoy

2997
03:05:28,410 --> 03:05:32,730
your meetups. Adios mofos a hui
Hui n such

2998
03:05:35,340 --> 03:05:43,320
Unknown: My name is Joe Biden.
I'm Dr. Joe Biden. I got my

2999
03:05:43,320 --> 03:05:46,590
cheese ice cream chocolate chip,
chocolate chip ice cream and

3000
03:05:46,590 --> 03:05:47,700
chocolate chocolate chip

3001
03:05:49,800 --> 03:05:52,650
and Joe Biden eat ice cream.
Well some people think that's

3002
03:05:52,650 --> 03:05:57,810
all I do is eat ice cream. I
love ice cream always have

3003
03:05:58,080 --> 03:06:00,840
chocolate chip not a joke. I
learned about kids jumping up my

3004
03:06:00,840 --> 03:06:04,920
ladder. And I love kids jumping
on my lap you've been with your

3005
03:06:04,920 --> 03:06:08,310
mother I can smell ice cream. So
what the whole refrigerator

3006
03:06:09,060 --> 03:06:11,910
chocolate chocolate chip ice got
a commercial light chocolate

3007
03:06:11,910 --> 03:06:15,450
chip ice cream I've got a United
States Senate drive my truck

3008
03:06:16,710 --> 03:06:17,910
probably had hot dogs and

3009
03:06:19,170 --> 03:06:22,770
Donald Trump thinks health care
is a privilege rockin I think

3010
03:06:22,770 --> 03:06:25,740
it's a right for people at Bad
Cat care

3011
03:06:26,910 --> 03:06:33,780
remember when we said he was
Don't say you weren't

3012
03:06:43,470 --> 03:06:47,010
effective strategy to mobilize
to pressure

3013
03:06:47,040 --> 03:06:56,040
No Man's camel she's got her eye
on the prize

3014
03:07:18,330 --> 03:07:20,940
come on you

3015
03:07:35,790 --> 03:07:40,620
Adam Curry: stand up what am I
talking about?

3016
03:07:42,030 --> 03:07:43,140
Unknown: You're making everybody
else

3017
03:07:49,530 --> 03:07:56,850
he doesn't know where he is Is
it real

3018
03:08:10,410 --> 03:08:23,640
won't be many more days takes
place you

3019
03:08:43,350 --> 03:08:44,010
says

3020
03:08:53,880 --> 03:09:01,800
oh she's still alive is your dad
fast? God bless her soul. I

3021
03:09:01,800 --> 03:09:02,910
gotta get this straight.

3022
03:09:04,230 --> 03:09:07,560
I was on the phone for two
straight hours where she's up

3023
03:09:08,160 --> 03:09:13,470
but you know they're gonna get
moving our lunch. China is going

3024
03:09:13,470 --> 03:09:18,660
to go once. Thank you all for
welcoming us

3025
03:09:21,090 --> 03:09:21,810
man

3026
03:09:30,720 --> 03:09:36,900
Joy don't need the war on.

3027
03:09:45,360 --> 03:09:52,920
mopho.org/in a catastrophic
threat to humanity.